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ColombiaLover
11-29-20, 21:58
That is my strategy as well. I would never go solo. For what purpose? You are in the barrio with the locals. I much prefer my times in the barrios to those in Lleras. And I agree about making contacts through your amigas. I still use FB some, but not so much. And I've never used SA and my Mansion contacts are long gone.

My Spanish is not fluent, but it's reasonable. I'm 55. So I guess I'm old, but they do not care. I have a few extra pounds, but they don't care. As long as they have fun, feel safe, feel somewhat respected. I am good with them. Agree that you can't be overly boring and you can't dress like someone from J Crew.


I'm not sure what you mean. I've partied hard in Manrique, Obrero (Bello), and Aranjuez. Some of the funnest and craziest party experiences ever. Of course, I don't go solo. I always go with groups of 2-3 girls who are from the areas. I would know at least one of the girls very well and they in turn invite their barrio friends for me to sample at the clubs. Almost always, I find someone 'fresh', usually their classmate, or co-woker, or family friend or just a new neighbor that moved into the barrio. You can't beat 50 mil for a full bottle of rum at a club! Medelland has something for everyone. I remember my virgin trip to MDE and I stayed at the Mansion my first couple trips and then would rent an apt in Parque Lleras to party hard for a week straight until my body couldn't take it anymore LOL. I dont use FB, SA, or Mansion connections anymore. I pretty much build my own chica network through referrals and referrals of referrals, and so on. Anyways, just my 2 cents. Being able to speak fluent Spanish, understand Colombian slang, dress with some style, not looking old, overweight and overly boring goes a long way.

Blakman
11-29-20, 23:09
So today is the day one of cartegena sisters from gusto came into blakmans world. Let me tell you I saw what saw. This girl was a legit 7/8. Very little body fat. Beautiful sparkling teeth and seductive eyes and ways. Was sexual right away. Unbuttoning my pants, kisses. Half act half really her. Pour her a drink then we light up the weed. We smoke a little together. We take videos she strips and take shower. I bring her to bedroom and give her the body oil massage. Then I turn her over and give her the front body massage. I lick her pussy. It gets her excited. She licks the shaft of my dick spits on it. Then goes for the condom. I start whining like a baby. She delays the condom licks the shaft then goes for condom at this point I am confident the head will be fantastic. She sucks while looking at me. Clearly she's a super skilled woman. She sucks it very well ask me if I want to leche. Hell no I want to fuck you. She positions doggy and I am hitting it telling her the me. Everytime I say it she moves faster til it hits her. She slows down and posution in another doggy position, then she rides me front and cowgirl. I am in heaven. Another pretty chick that loves to fuck. We then go missionary. I want to nut this position but it doesn't happen. She suggest to take the condom off and suck me off. She's make all kinds of faces to get me off. Final a huge nut. I wonder how far did it travel in san peters. She loves it. Now part of how I got her to see me was talking dirty, the body oil massage, and showing her gifts I have. After the session she ask for 300 k then she ask for a gift. I said no. I gave 250 k. She ask if we could go dancing toherher. I was like ok. But she seem like she left upset cause I gave her 250 k. She walk her self out. That was my time with cartegena / Gusto girl. I want to give credit to a russian member. Is advice encouraged me to givr her 40 extra minutes time to arrive.

Mojo Bandit
11-30-20, 00:24
I'll be arriving in Medellin around 6 pm. Whats the best option for getting COP at that time, will the cambios still be open or maybe the ATM is better?

Be very sure that the bank that issued your ATM card knows that you are traveling to Colombia, One time I landed with not much money and no cell phone and when I stuck my ATM card in the machine it would not work because either the bank or Visa immediately canceled my card because it was being used in another country. That was a helpless feeling. Luckily I had just enough cash to exchange for taxi fare and I ended having to call them using Skype on my laptop -through the Wifi in my apartment. If I had not had the apartment already set up I really would have been in trouble.

RiceRocket99
11-30-20, 01:18
I'm glad you understand that there's more to Medelland then the usual Centro and Parque lleras scenes, but nothing wrong with both of them. I wasn't trying to knock on age, weight, and looks. If it came out that way, which I agree it did after re-reading my own post, I sincerely apologize. I'll be 55 one day if I make it that far LOL, and I'll still be partying up all over Colombia. You are absolutely right that once a girl is having a good time, feels safe and respected, they do not care what you look like and of course your wallet is doing the trick too. I always have party goodies in my apt, you name it I probably have it and girls will stay for hours partying it up. It's an added cost, but the fun is way worth it for me. Many times I have to call it a night or early morning because got to rest up for next day (wash, rinse, and repeat).


That is my strategy as well. I would never go solo. For what purpose? You are in the barrio with the locals. I much prefer my times in the barrios to those in Lleras. And I agree about making contacts through your amigas. I still use FB some, but not so much. And I've never used SA and my Mansion contacts are long gone.

My Spanish is not fluent, but it's reasonable. I'm 55. So I guess I'm old, but they do not care. I have a few extra pounds, but they don't care. As long as they have fun, feel safe, feel somewhat respected. I am good with them. Agree that you can't be overly boring and you can't dress like someone from J Crew.

Surfer500
11-30-20, 01:57
Be very sure that the bank that issued your ATM card knows that you are traveling to Colombia, One time I landed with not much money and no cell phone and when I stuck my ATM card in the machine it would not work because either the bank or Visa immediately canceled my card because it was being used in another country. That was a helpless feeling. Luckily I had just enough cash to exchange for taxi fare and I ended having to call them using Skype on my laptop -through the Wifi in my apartment. If I had not had the apartment already set up I really would have been in trouble.I actually have and use two ATM card's besides credit cards. And by having the two ATM cards from different banks sometimes one card may get blocked either by Bancolombia or Scotia or Wells Fargo or Bank of America. And earlier this year when the exchange rate was over 4200 to the dollar, I was pulling the maximum amount daily out and stockpiling Pesos.

Surfer500
11-30-20, 02:05
I wanted to add to my recent post but I can't due to a time limit. Anyway as I am asking a lot of info and I am unable to give back as I am not on the ground yet I will add my cliff notes here.Your cliff notes are hilarious, Spanish 101, but I didn't see translations for sucky / fucky or boom boom on it. Oh well!

Surfer500
11-30-20, 02:24
I want to nut this position but it doesn't happen. She suggest to take the condom off and suck me off. She's make all kinds of faces to get me off. Final a huge nut. I wonder how far did it travel in san peters. She loves it.I feel sorry for the fly's on the wall observing the ordeal your Cartagena Chica had to go thru to get you to blow a load. The fly's had to of been perplexed trying to understand why she was making faces at you with all the grimacing and grinning. And when you finally blew your load, which they had no idea was coming, they were running, or I should say flying for cover, not wanting to get gooed.

JohnnyO
11-30-20, 02:27
Be very sure that the bank that issued your ATM card knows that you are traveling to Colombia, One time I landed with not much money and no cell phone and when I stuck my ATM card in the machine it would not work because either the bank or Visa immediately canceled my card because it was being used in another country. That was a helpless feeling. Luckily I had just enough cash to exchange for taxi fare and I ended having to call them using Skype on my laptop -through the Wifi in my apartment. If I had not had the apartment already set up I really would have been in trouble.Good tip thanks. I know the feeling, I had a similar situation China.


You don't need cash for Uber. You need cash for taxis. Another cash option is the 12,000 peso bus to Centro or San Diego. If you stay at San Peter get the San Diego bus. You will need a taxi after the bus, or you can do Uber from there.

I am a Centro rat. Yes, you are safe to take taxis to amd from the strip clubs after dark.

Awesome, sounds good. Hoping to become an El Centro rat also. Although for my first time in Medellin I think Ill stick to the taxi from the Airport.


1. ATMs are better, unless you have some overriding reason to bring cash. At least some of them should be open at Oviedo mall until 8 pm. However, the added cost and inconvenience makes using a money exchange upon arrival a bad idea. You can pull out a small amount from an ATM at the airport, then hit another ATM once you are settled in.

The best option from the airport, going to San Peter Apartments is the bus to Nutibara Plaza and then taxi to San Peter, although it's not much different than taking the bus to Santa Fe mall and taking a taxi. However, it will probably be easier and less stressful to take a white taxi from the airport. The rate should be 80 k, but always verify with the driver. If he says more than 85 k, just move on to the next one.

3. I've never seen a listing on Airbnb for San Peter Apartments that doesn't specifically state visitors, over 18 with Identification are allowed. As of 1 week ago, there was no problem at all with visitors. The front desk girls are all cool with it. The owner I rented from is named Kathy.

4. Taking a taxi directly to where you want to go in El Centro is the way to go, especially at night.

5. When in doubt, whip it out. Ask for a cedula. Some hotels in El Centro require the girl to have one. Some don't.

6. I think most of the Centro rats will tell you to use Premier Plaza or another better short time hotel. Cleaner, nicer, no interruptions and hot water is worth it.

Lots of goos advice. Thanks


I'll answer your first three questions since I have knowledge of those. I'm not a Centro rat and it's been years since I stayed at San Peter. Take your passport with you just in case they need to see it to sell a sim card.

ATMs seem like the way to go.


Do you check out the Medellin List by World Traveler here?

Yes and its quite useful for cross referencing some of the reports here.

Blakman
11-30-20, 15:01
This was like revenge against the fluent spanish speakers, high paying slapshots, and infamous difficulties of getting a Gusto girl Cheap or reasonable. All smashed in one day. Without knowing fluent spanish worked 450 k to 250 k. Didn't subject myself to 1000000 K to 500 k or 200 US. Used a little non fluent dirty talk and fotos of few nice gifts to entice the invitation. Sure enough she was in my apartment ready to serve. I feel like a Gusto king now. Minus the slapshot VIP set up. Mr. Entertainment. You would be proud. If i get the sister its a wrap. King of medellin lol


I feel sorry for the fly's on the wall observing the ordeal your Cartagena Chica had to go thru to get you to blow a load. The fly's had to of been perplexed trying to understand why she was making faces at you with all the grimacing and grinning. And when you finally blew your load, which they had no idea was coming, they were running, or I should say flying for cover, not wanting to get gooed..

Knowledge
11-30-20, 15:28
Blakman,

You are going to have to change your handle to "mythbuster". I love how you made this happen. I'm rooting for your success with the other sister. It is fun reading about it.


This was like revenge against the fluent spanish speakers, high paying slapshots, and infamous difficulties of getting a Gusto girl Cheap or reasonable. All smashed in one day. Without knowing fluent spanish worked 450 k to 250 k. Didn't subject myself to 1000000 K to 500 k or 200 US. Used a little non fluent dirty talk and fotos of few nice gifts to entice the invitation. Sure enough she was in my apartment ready to serve. I feel like a Gusto king now. Minus the slapshot VIP set up. Mr. Entertainment. You would be proud. If i get the sister its a wrap. King of medellin lol.

JjBee62
11-30-20, 16:05
During my trip I used 3 different ATMs with 2 different cards. One of my cards refunds ATM fees, but charges me $1 per withdrawal. The other hits me with more fees, but at least at Davivienda, it allows up to 2 million pesos per withdrawal. I only used it for 1 big withdrawal there.

With my other card my max withdrawal from Davivienda was 400 k, at BBVA it was 300 k and at Scotiabank Colpatria it was 900 k. With the $1 fee my bank charged, I was getting about 98.7% of the current rate with each bank.

Although I didn't check it on the same days, the best currency exchange rate appeared to be about 100 pesos less than what I was getting from the ATMs. While I was getting about 3610, the best currency exchange rate was 3510.

If you're going to use the currency exchanges, your best bet is at Oviedo mall. There are several places there, so you can quickly compare rates. On the same day the rates ranged from 3400 to 3510. Two days later the best rate was at a different place.

Shamester
11-30-20, 16:13
I actually have and use two ATM card's besides credit cards. And by having the two ATM cards from different banks sometimes one card may get blocked either by Bancolombia or Scotia or Wells Fargo or Bank of America. And earlier this year when the exchange rate was over 4200 to the dollar, I was pulling the maximum amount daily out and stockpiling Pesos.It is always a good idea to notify your bank either on-line or via customer service about which countries you are visiting.

The ATM at the airport is unreliable. Sometimes the ATM is not working or refuses the card. Its best to wait until you are in a turismo area to safely dispense cash from an ATM.

Surfer500
11-30-20, 16:54
This was like revenge against the fluent spanish speakers, high paying slapshots, and infamous difficulties of getting a Gusto girl Cheap or reasonable. All smashed in one day. Without knowing fluent spanish worked 450 k to 250 k. Didn't subject myself to 1000000 K to 500 k or 200 US. Used a little non fluent dirty talk and fotos of few nice gifts to entice the invitation. Sure enough she was in my apartment ready to serve. I feel like a Gusto king now. Minus the slapshot VIP set up. Mr. Entertainment. You would be proud. If i get the sister its a wrap. King of medellin lol.With such a skill set, being able to beat the odds other members fumble with, and having the "Midas Touch" with the women of Gustos, you should be parlaying your skills which you have now finely honed, and return to El Centro and bless this sacred ground with your style and substance, kind of like in the movie with Eddie Murphy in "Coming to America" where he set up shop in Queens.

SlapShot10
11-30-20, 19:27
This was like revenge against the fluent spanish speakers, high paying slapshots, and infamous difficulties of getting a Gusto girl Cheap or reasonable. All smashed in one day. Without knowing fluent spanish worked 450 k to 250 k. Didn't subject myself to 1000000 K to 500 k or 200 US. Used a little non fluent dirty talk and fotos of few nice gifts to entice the invitation. Sure enough she was in my apartment ready to serve. I feel like a Gusto king now. Minus the slapshot VIP set up. Mr. Entertainment. You would be proud. If i get the sister its a wrap. King of medellin lol

.Baitnswitchman, you sent her photos of gifts then stiffed her? What a legend! I'd say the chances of getting the sister are now lower than getting hit by a bolt of lightning. Colombian Chicas 4,128,533 - Good Guys 1.

Kafka
11-30-20, 20:01
It wasn't the 50,000 it was the idea of it, right?

It's the money that turns them on.


So today is the day one of cartegena sisters from gusto came into blakmans world. Let me tell you I saw what saw. This girl was a legit 7/8. Very little body fat. Beautiful sparkling teeth and seductive eyes and ways. Was sexual right away. Unbuttoning my pants, kisses. Half act half really her. Pour her a drink then we light up the weed. We smoke a little together. We take videos she strips and take shower. I bring her to bedroom and give her the body oil massage. Then I turn her over and give her the front body massage. I lick her pussy. It gets her excited. She licks the shaft of my dick spits on it. Then goes for the condom. I start whining like a baby. She delays the condom licks the shaft then goes for condom at this point I am confident the head will be fantastic. She sucks while looking at me. Clearly she's a super skilled woman. She sucks it very well ask me if I want to leche. Hell no I want to fuck you. She positions doggy and I am hitting it telling her the me. Everytime I say it she moves faster til it hits her. She slows down and posution in another doggy position, then she rides me front and cowgirl. I am in heaven. Another pretty chick that loves to fuck. We then go missionary. I want to nut this position but it doesn't happen. She suggest to take the condom off and suck me off. She's make all kinds of faces to get me off. Final a huge nut. I wonder how far did it travel in san peters. She loves it. Now part of how I got her to see me was talking dirty, the body oil massage, and showing her gifts I have. After the session she ask for 300 k then she ask for a gift. I said no. I gave 250 k. She ask if we could go dancing toherher. I was like ok. But she seem like she left upset cause I gave her 250 k. She walk her self out. That was my time with cartegena / Gusto girl. I want to give credit to a russian member. Is advice encouraged me to givr her 40 extra minutes time to arrive.

Osteoknot
11-30-20, 23:31
I thought it was an interesting perspective compared to other reports. She is 18 yo, not a pro, but of course I "help her out" whenever we fuck. She has the second tightest pussy I have ever fucked in my life, and she is tempting me or asking me, depending on how your feel about it, to fuck her virgin ass when I return. I will do her that favor, jejeje. I couldn't find a pussy pic of her. I know I had one but I think it got erased by one of my other girls.

She used a translator, the message came in exactly like this:

"Please don't pay attention to the news, Medellin is fine, everyone has already left the masks and the clubs are open.

Medellin I see well, darling, it is not as serious as it seems.

I am not lying my love there are many people who have already left the mask and did not use it again since the whole city is as before.

Believe me that the situation is not serious in Medellin, on the contrary, everything is as before.

Isabelle: I'm not lying about anything love.

I think it is a good love, in these months and I understood the power that the news has to manipulate people but the paisas no longer allowed themselves to be mentalized by what the news said. But everyone realized that it is not like that and now everyone goes out there and the discos are open and the bars too."

I don't know why she kept mentioning "lying" we trust each other. I think she just wants me to hurry back. I am not arguing any of the points she makes, but it's good to see it from their side.

Osteoknot
12-01-20, 00:14
This was like revenge against the fluent spanish speakers, high paying slapshots, and infamous difficulties of getting a Gusto girl Cheap or reasonable. All smashed in one day. Without knowing fluent spanish worked 450 k to 250 k. Didn't subject myself to 1000000 K to 500 k or 200 US. Used a little non fluent dirty talk and fotos of few nice gifts to entice the invitation. Sure enough she was in my apartment ready to serve. I feel like a Gusto king now. Minus the slapshot VIP set up. Mr. Entertainment. You would be proud. If i get the sister its a wrap. King of medellin lol.But good for you, glad it works for ya.

JjBee62
12-01-20, 00:16
Blakman,

You are going to have to change your handle to "mythbuster". I love how you made this happen. I'm rooting for your success with the other sister. It is fun reading about it.It's great he got the girl for the price he was willing to pay and I also enjoy reading about his adventures. However, it's not like he discovered the cure for cancer or something.

How many times have girls in El Centro asked you for 50-60 k and then 5 minutes later were in the room for 25-30 k? Facebook girls frequently ask for 250-300 k and will quickly drop to 150-200 k. Other than the strip clubs and the casas, 30-50% below the girl's asking price is almost standard practice.

It doesn't even require much Spanish knowledge. Whatever price the girl asks for, you reply "Siempre pago" followed by whatever price you want to give. "I always pay" tells them you know the going rate. Most girls, in my experience, will drop their price with almost no resistance. If they don't, within a few hours, they will be trying to get you back to the negotiating table.

Blakman
12-01-20, 00:53
And they said it couldn't be done, not by a cheapy charlie non speaking fluent spanish. Well 2 weeks ago I had a dance with a girl at gusto and when she ask for a drink I said later. She said well dance with Me later. I spaced myself. A week later I saw her lleras park and requested the number which I collected. To describe her. European colombian with perfect tits, no kids. We make several deals ending in cancelations. The price is 200 k total condom. I delete her but with sucess of cartegena. I feel confident she will act right. I recuop her number via facebook. Contact her set up the meet. She acts perfectly obedient not wanting to lose the sale.

She arrives via uber or didi and want me give taxi 10 mil. I have 20 mil. Taxi has no change. They drive up get change. She walks back to me nice built, smaller but just as good if not better than cartegena. I understand how she qualifies for gusto. We smoke that crepa and she becomes the sexiest, most sensual chick alive. I give her a massage. The body is perfectly curved and shaped. She enjoys it but seems sensitive and impatient. She request the condom and puts it on. She starts to break down my body from sucking my cock to sensual touches on my nipples. Man she found my weak spot. She is skilled and rides well. So in control she was. Then we go to to missionary. She's relax with that sexy european look, her tits are perfect. Great boob job or naturally perfect. Either one I don't care. Its a joy to view and touch. We then go doggy. She's raises her voice for me to cum but then gets lost in the enjoyment of the sex. This continues back forth with her pleading with me to cum then continuing to enjoy the fuck. I grew concern she would get aggressive. But she did it again saying cum cum and continue getting fuck. I didn't understand it but it was working in my favor LOL. She decides to get on top. Believing she was going ride the cum out of me. No can do. She then begins to suck it then put more lube and begins to stroke it. She strokes faster and faster playing with my nipples. I am looking at her. The european look gets me. Another loud yell at San Peters. She calmy gets tissue. I clean myself up. I ask for the 10 k change from taxi. She gives me. She ask for taxi money. Which isn't part of the deal. The fuck was good though. She says why fuss over $3. So I gave the 10 k. Total now 220 k. She takes the money and is very affectionate. Taxi arrive and walk her down. She hugs and that was back to back with GUSTO.

Mr Enternational
12-01-20, 01:19
CLOSING OF NIGHT LIQUOR AND NIGHTCLUBS SALES ESTABLISHMENTS, STARTING TOMORROW.

Closing of Bars and Clubs throughout the national territory of the Republic of Colombia from December 1, 2020 to January 16,2021.

The national government through Decree 1550 of November 28,2020, partially modified Decree 1168 of August 2020, including again among the activities not allowed during the health emergency derived from the COVID 19 pandemic, discos and dance venues, the consumption of alcoholic beverages in public places and commercial establishments, and public and private events that generate crowds.

The decree also indicates the closure of the land and river borders of Colombia with: Panama, Ecuador, Peru, Brazil and Venezuela.

JohnnyO
12-01-20, 01:29
CLOSING OF NIGHT LIQUOR AND NIGHTCLUBS SALES ESTABLISHMENTS, STARTING TOMORROW.

Closing of Bars and Clubs throughout the national territory of the Republic of Colombia from December 1, 2020 to January 16,2021.

The national government through Decree 1550 of November 28,2020, partially modified Decree 1168 of August 2020, including again among the activities not allowed during the health emergency derived from the COVID 19 pandemic, discos and dance venues, the consumption of alcoholic beverages in public places and commercial establishments, and public and private events that generate crowds.

The decree also indicates the closure of the land and river borders of Colombia with: Panama, Ecuador, Peru, Brazil and Venezuela.Damn I've just booked for the 7th Jan, what does this mean in layman's terms. Will all the bars and strip clubs around Centro be closed as well as Lleras? Basically every venue closing and the only option to pick up chicas is on the street or online? This could be a real buzz killer if so.

Knowledge
12-01-20, 01:35
She is not a pro?


I thought it was an interesting perspective compared to other reports. She is 18 yo, not a pro, but of course I "help her out" whenever we fuck. She has the second tightest pussy I have ever fucked in my life, and she is tempting me or asking me, depending on how your feel about it, to fuck her virgin ass when I return. I will do her that favor, jejeje. I couldn't find a pussy pic of her. I know I had one but I think it got erased by one of my other girls.

She used a translator, the message came in exactly like this:

"Please don't pay attention to the news, Medellin is fine, everyone has already left the masks and the clubs are open.

Medellin I see well, darling, it is not as serious as it seems.

I am not lying my love there are many people who have already left the mask and did not use it again since the whole city is as before.

Believe me that the situation is not serious in Medellin, on the contrary, everything is as before.

Isabelle: I'm not lying about anything love..

Knowledge
12-01-20, 01:43
It does not mean the only option to get girls will be on the street or online. You may have to drink out of paper cups. Liquor sales will be permitted. Strip clubs will operate but discos and large bars will not. Contact your favorite place and ask them if they will operate if you want to be sure.


Damn I've just booked for the 7th Jan, what does this mean in layman's terms. Will all the bars and strip clubs around Centro be closed as well as Lleras? Basically every venue closing and the only option to pick up chicas is on the street or online? This could be a real buzz killer if so.

Knowledge
12-01-20, 01:49
Yes, that is what I was getting at. You must admit there is pretty consistent messaging here that it is not possible.


It's great he got the girl for the price he was willing to pay and I also enjoy reading about his adventures. However, it's not like he discovered the cure for cancer or something.

How many times have girls in El Centro asked you for 50-60 k and then 5 minutes later were in the room for 25-30 k? Facebook girls frequently ask for 250-300 k and will quickly drop to 150-200 k. Other than the strip clubs and the casas, 30-50% below the girl's asking price is almost standard practice.

It doesn't even require much Spanish knowledge. Whatever price the girl asks for, you reply "Siempre pago" followed by whatever price you want to give. "I always pay" tells them you know the going rate. Most girls, in my experience, will drop their price with almost no resistance. If they don't, within a few hours, they will be trying to get you back to the negotiating table.

Balboa
12-01-20, 01:56
And they said it couldn't be done, not by a cheapy charlie non speaking fluent spanish. Well 2 weeks ago I had a dance with a girl at gusto and when she ask for a drink I said later. She said well dance with Me later. I spaced myself. A week later I saw her lleras park and requested the number which I collected. To describe her. European colombian with perfect tits, no kids. We make several deals ending in cancelations. The price is 200 k total condom. I delete her but with sucess of cartegena. I feel confident she will act right. I recuop her number via facebook. Contact her set up the meet. She acts perfectly obedient not wanting to lose the sale.

She hugs and that was back to back with GUSTO.Right on man!

Ain't rocket science, LOL.

Just takes patience and some persistence.

Glad your enjoying life again after your about with dehydration.

I'm just back from 5 days in Medellin.

Had a great time as usual!

Hit Botero quite a bit since I stayed at Hotel Nutibara, convenient to say the least.

I'll tell ya, I'm no Don Juan Blakman, LOL, but I am good at the hunt and the interview.

Got very lucky with some true gems.

I don't get into the Penthouse forum details, however, very good!

No time limit, I'm good at schmoozing the hotel girls, I. E. Time keepers.

Except at Premium Plaza, they're kinda bitchy there, LOL.

I've got other spots I like much more.

Hit Lleras once, Gustos once.

All closes down at midnite, and apparently closing it's doors again, according to below reports.

Fun times!

Glad I went before the new apparent shut down!

Back to Brazil!

Pic of a favorita

Knowledge
12-01-20, 02:04
The holiday restrictions are scheduled to run through January 16.


Right on man!

Ain't rocket science, LOL.

Just takes patience and some persistence.

Glad your enjoying life again after your about with dehydration.

I'm just back from 5 days in Medellin.

Had a great time as usual!

Hit Botero quite a bit since I stayed at Hotel Nutibara, convenient to say the least.

I'll tell ya, I'm no Don Juan Blakman, LOL, but I am good at the hunt and the interview.

Got very lucky with some true gems.

I don't get into the Penthouse forum details, however, very good!

No time limit, I'm good at schmoozing the hotel girls, I. E. Time keepers.

JjBee62
12-01-20, 02:26
I thought it was an interesting perspective compared to other reports. She is 18 yo, not a pro, but of course I "help her out" whenever we fuck. She has the second tightest pussy I have ever fucked in my life, and she is tempting me or asking me, depending on how your feel about it, to fuck her virgin ass when I return. I will do her that favor, jejeje. I couldn't find a pussy pic of her. I know I had one but I think it got erased by one of my other girls.

She used a translator, the message came in exactly like this:

"Please don't pay attention to the news, Medellin is fine, everyone has already left the masks and the clubs are open.

Medellin I see well, darling, it is not as serious as it seems.

I am not lying my love there are many people who have already left the mask and did not use it again since the whole city is as before.During my 12 days in Medellin in November this is what I saw and experienced:

Almost every place I went into, from a Raudal bar to La Isla, was requiring everyone to sanitize their hands and they were taking everyone's temperature. Many places were sanitizing shoes as well. Almost everyone one the street, unless they were eating or drinking, was wearing a mask. Some restaurants and Exito had a separate entrance point and exit point.

While bars, discos and restaurants were open, many places either haven't reopened, or have gone out of business. Most bars are closing at midnight. Once seated at a restaurant, or inside the bar, masks are not required. Some restaurants have reduced seating for social distancing. Many stores only allow a certain number of customers at one time. I saw long lines at many places, although I'm not sure what the people were waiting to get into.

San Peter Apartments, where I stayed, would not let anyone in or out without a mask. Ran into a few guys in the elevator who were sent back to get a mask. They also checked my temperature every time I returned.

Unless that has all changed in the last 8 days, she's not giving you accurate information.

Sangnyc21
12-01-20, 02:33
CLOSING OF NIGHT LIQUOR AND NIGHTCLUBS SALES ESTABLISHMENTS, STARTING TOMORROW.

Closing of Bars and Clubs throughout the national territory of the Republic of Colombia from December 1, 2020 to January 16,2021.

The national government through Decree 1550 of November 28,2020, partially modified Decree 1168 of August 2020, including again among the activities not allowed during the health emergency derived from the COVID 19 pandemic, discos and dance venues, the consumption of alcoholic beverages in public places and commercial establishments, and public and private events that generate crowds.

The decree also indicates the closure of the land and river borders of Colombia with: Panama, Ecuador, Peru, Brazil and Venezuela.I'll be there Jan 14th for 2 months so the girls will be hungry for that gringo $$$ LOL.

JjBee62
12-01-20, 02:51
And they said it couldn't be done, not by a cheapy charlie non speaking fluent spanish. Well 2 weeks ago I had a dance with a girl at gusto and when she ask for a drink I said later. She said well dance with Me later. I spaced myself. A week later I saw her lleras park and requested the number which I collected. To describe her. European colombian with perfect tits, no kids. We make several deals ending in cancelations. The price is 200 k total condom. I delete her but with sucess of cartegena. I feel confident she will act right. I recuop her number via facebook. Contact her set up the meet. She acts perfectly obedient not wanting to lose the sale.

She arrives via uber or didi and want me give taxi 10 mil. I have 20 mil. Taxi has no change. They drive up get change. She walks back to me nice built, smaller but just as good if not better than cartegena. I understand how she qualifies for gusto. We smoke that crepa and she becomes the sexiest, most sensual chick alive. I give her a massage. The body is perfectly curved and shaped. She enjoys it but seems sensitive and impatient. She request the condom and puts it on. She starts to break down my body from sucking my cock to sensual touches on my nipples. Man she found my weak spot. She is skilled and rides well. So in control she was. Then we go to to missionary. She's relax with that sexy european look, her tits are perfect. Great boob job or naturally perfect. Either one I don't care. Its a joy to view and touch. We then go doggy. She's raises her voice for me to cum but then gets lost in the enjoyment of the sex. This continues back forth with her pleading with me to cum then continuing to enjoy the fuck. I grew concern she would get aggressive. But she did it again saying cum cum and continue getting fuck. I didn't understand it but it was working in my favor LOL. She decides to get on top. Believing she was going ride the cum out of me. No can do. She then begins to suck it then put more lube and begins to stroke it. She strokes faster and faster playing with my nipples. I am looking at her. The european look gets me. Another loud yell at San Peters. She calmy gets tissue. I clean myself up. I ask for the 10 k change from taxi. She gives me. She ask for taxi money. Which isn't part of the deal. The fuck was good though. She says why fuss over $3. So I gave the 10 k. Total now 220 k. She takes the money and is very affectionate. Taxi arrive and walk her down. She hugs and that was back to back with GUSTO.I'm getting quite the chuckle out of this. You're basically describing the typical Facebook girl, except you're paying more and getting less. And yes, many of the girls you see in Gusto and Parque Lleras are also working Facebook.

Paying more? Yes. Facebook pricing is typically 150 k + 20 k for taxi, or 200 k, no more for taxi.

Getting less? Yes. I almost always get BBBJ from Facebook girls and rarely have I had one who was in any hurry to leave. And I don't even buy popcorn. More than 1 has tried to get a second round out of me, although only a few succeeded. I usually require at least 2 hours before there's any chance of another go. A few have offered BBFS, a few have offered anal, neither of which I'm interested in. I haven't had one yet who tried to raise the price.

This has all been covered many times before in the forum. Several people have reported girls quoting high prices in Gusto and then dropping down to 150-200 k at closing time, or when contacted at a later date. Inside Gusto they figure the chances of a big payday are worth holding out for a higher price. Outside of Gusto they're back to the choice between getting 150-200 k from a gringo or getting 40-60 k from a local.

I'm happy you're getting the girls you want, but I don't think your accomplishments have elevated you to royalty yet.

RiceRocket99
12-01-20, 02:52
I totally understand what you are saying. I sometimes (more often than not) think I'm invincible, which could lead to my downfall. A chino like me hanging out in the barrio clubs does attract attention, many times unwanted. The barrio dudes, we'll call them patos (Colombian slang for cheap losers LOL), would try to talk to me to have me introduce them to the chicas and try to get free drinks from me. I shoot them down right away since I can speak their paisa Spanish, they know I ain't a newbie or an easy target. And the girls would be protective as well since they know some people would try to take advantage of me and shit. Anyways, thanks for the heads up. I'm hearing it loud and clear.


Like I said, I hope for a surprise happy ending. It's good you roll with people you've met before and use referrals. My 2 cents is to avoid problems keep a clear head about whether you get girls because of what you can pay them vs. Your appearance, fashion sense and knowledge of Spanish. More specifically, to avoid dangerous problems be aware that whether or not you arrive someplace with "2 or 3 girls" from the area you are still alone. Please stay alert and be selective with your trust so I can read about a happy plot twist. I mention a surprise ending because everything else about your evolution from gringo hotel newbie to confident barrio baller is a familiar path toward regretful developments. I hope you are now more sure of what I mean because I hate hearing about guys in problem situations.

RiceRocket99
12-01-20, 03:08
In Poblado / Laureles, being Asian is not much of an advantage, maybe a slight advantage depending on how you play it. But once you go deep into the barrios, it definitely is a game changer for sure, especially if you can speak Spanish. I remember going to Copacabana couple years ago visiting a chica in her barrio and met a group of kids that have never seen an Asian person in the flesh. I'm like damn ok. They wanted to touch me and see if I was real LOL. I did feel like a celebrity haha. I did try to educate them that not all Asians are chinos and the cultural differences between the countries. I guess they don't teach World History much in Colombia. I'm from the SF Bay Area so being Asian is dozen in a dozen, so I enjoy the attention whenever I can. And yes many barrio chicas have an Asian fetish LOL.


You actually left something out here that others may not be aware of in that you said your Asian. I have a friend from South Korea who is in Medellin that I met with a few weeks ago there, and he basically
was a "babe magnet" compared to me when we would go places. It's almost like when I went to India a few years back. Your a rarity, and are going to get a lot of attention because most Colombians in the barrios let alone not ever leaving Medellin have never seen an Asian person in the flesh, and being able to speak Spanish has to be blowing them away, especially the Chicas. So your kind of like a movie star and probably have people wanting to have their picture taken with you, at least that's what happened to me in India, but unfortunately it wasn't with a bunch of Chicas!

MarquisdeSade1
12-01-20, 03:09
But good for you, glad it works for ya.I don't know if he meant revenge per se, but semantics aside, I understand what he's saying and doing.

When I go to a venue where chumps are driving up prices, I don't get upset, I get "revenge" whilst giving the middle finger to all of them.

I double down, instead of trying to out bid them, I outsmart them, instead of increasing prices further.

I take it down 50% or 75% of what is standard rate and ask for way more than what is expected from those overpaying.

BM if you want to declare yourself King you have to 1st get PSE BBFS and instead of haggling over 10 k either get them for free.

Or better yet, tell them how much you charge! You're not even close bro LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL23nJI4_Q8

Knowledge
12-01-20, 03:58
One of the cashiers at Yakuza is Asian but born in Medellin. There is a girl at Aiffe who has a Chinese father.


In Poblado / Laureles, being Asian is not much of an advantage, maybe a slight advantage depending on how you play it. But once you go deep into the barrios, it definitely is a game changer for sure, especially if you can speak Spanish. I remember going to Copacabana couple years ago visiting a chica in her barrio and met a group of kids that have never seen an Asian person in the flesh. I'm like damn ok. They wanted to touch me and see if I was real LOL. I did feel like a celebrity haha. I did try to educate them that not all Asians are chinos and the cultural differences between the countries. I guess they don't teach World History much in Colombia. I'm from the SF Bay Area so being Asian is dozen in a dozen, so I enjoy the attention whenever I can. And yes many barrio chicas have an Asian fetish LOL.

MarquisdeSade1
12-01-20, 04:29
CLOSING OF NIGHT LIQUOR AND NIGHTCLUBS SALES ESTABLISHMENTS, STARTING TOMORROW.

Closing of Bars and Clubs throughout the national territory of the Republic of Colombia from December 1, 2020 to January 16,2021.

The national government through Decree 1550 of November 28,2020, partially modified Decree 1168 of August 2020, including again among the activities not allowed during the health emergency derived from the COVID 19 pandemic, discos and dance venues, the consumption of alcoholic beverages in public places and commercial establishments, and public and private events that generate crowds.

The decree also indicates the closure of the land and river borders of Colombia with: Panama, Ecuador, Peru, Brazil and Venezuela.https://www.rt.com/op-ed/508240-scaremongering-covid19-fading-virus/

Surfer500
12-01-20, 04:39
And they said it couldn't be done, not by a cheapy charlie non speaking fluent spanish. Well 2 weeks ago I had a dance with a girl at gusto and when she ask for a drink I said later. She said well dance with Me later. I spaced myself. A week later I saw her lleras park and requested the number which I collected. To describe her. European colombian with perfect tits, no kids. We make several deals ending in cancelations. The price is 200 k total condom. I delete her but with sucess of cartegena. I feel confident she will act right. I recuop her number via facebook. Contact her set up the meet. She acts perfectly obedient not wanting to lose the sale.

She arrives via uber or didi and want me give taxi 10 mil. I have 20 mil. Taxi has no change. They drive up get change. She walks back to me nice built, smaller but just as good if not better than cartegena. I understand how she qualifies for gusto. We smoke that crepa and she becomes the sexiest, most sensual chick alive. I give her a massage. The body is perfectly curved and shaped. She enjoys it but seems sensitive and impatient. She request the condom and puts it on. She starts to break down my body from sucking my cock to sensual touches on my nipples. Man she found my weak spot. She is skilled and rides well. So in control she was. Then we go to to missionary. She's relax with that sexy european look, her tits are perfect. Great boob job or naturally perfect. Either one I don't care. Its a joy to view and touch. We then go doggy. She's raises her voice for me to cum but then gets lost in the enjoyment of the sex. This continues back forth with her pleading with me to cum then continuing to enjoy the fuck. I grew concern she would get aggressive. But she did it again saying cum cum and continue getting fuck. I didn't understand it but it was working in my favor LOL. She decides to get on top. Sounds like a fun time for you, better than the Cartagena chica, and if on the same day good job. However seems as though your having a hard time blowing loads during intercourse, and it's tough for me at times to finish as well, unless of course it's a rare bareback session.

I previously told you to stay away from that Crepa shit, and Slapshot even advised it wasn't for the faint of heart, and most definitely don't have any booze before your sessions at least that is what I do. I'm over a decade older than you, and find spacing things out like between 4 to 8 hours apart increases my batting average, or I should say "misfires", meaning not being able to Cum.

As far as the Chica wanting you to cum by telling you to do so, well I fucking hate that, and if they think I'm going to cum by telling me to come, it does just the opposite for me. Sometimes when I have hard time finishing, the visuals put me over the top, just as you described.

Blakman
12-01-20, 04:41
Your trip was a bust. And you best moments was hanging with a bunch of dudes. That came from your very mouth lmao. You drank some bad squirt that left you close to being on your deathbed. Don't hate the new king of Gusto LOL. We talking gusto, talking gusto. Not FB, FB, GUSTO. LMAO at you jjbee. David Chapelle would say i am Gusto Rich *****


I'm getting quite the chuckle out of this. You're basically describing the typical Facebook girl, except you're paying more and getting less. And yes, many of the girls you see in Gusto and Parque Lleras are also working Facebook.

Paying more? Yes. Facebook pricing is typically 150 k + 20 k for taxi, or 200 k, no more for taxi.

Getting less? Yes. I almost always get BBBJ from Facebook girls and rarely have I had one who was in any hurry to leave. And I don't even buy popcorn. More than 1 has tried to get a second round out of me, although only a few succeeded. I usually require at least 2 hours before there's any chance of another go. A few have offered BBFS, a few have offered anal, neither of which I'm interested in. I haven't had one yet who tried to raise the price.

This has all been covered many times before in the forum. Several people have reported girls quoting high prices in Gusto and then dropping down to 150-200 k at closing time, or when contacted at a later date. Inside Gusto they figure the chances of a big payday are worth holding out for a higher price. Outside of Gusto they're back to the choice between getting 150-200 k from a gringo or getting 40-60 k from a local.

I'm happy you're getting the girls you want, but I don't think your accomplishments have elevated you to royalty yet..

Blakman
12-01-20, 04:46
They have doubts. I get firsthand Gusto intel now. I have inside connects LOL


CLOSING OF NIGHT LIQUOR AND NIGHTCLUBS SALES ESTABLISHMENTS, STARTING TOMORROW.

Closing of Bars and Clubs throughout the national territory of the Republic of Colombia from December 1, 2020 to January 16,2021.

The national government through Decree 1550 of November 28,2020, partially modified Decree 1168 of August 2020, including again among the activities not allowed during the health emergency derived from the COVID 19 pandemic, discos and dance venues, the consumption of alcoholic beverages in public places and commercial establishments, and public and private events that generate crowds.

The decree also indicates the closure of the land and river borders of Colombia with: Panama, Ecuador, Peru, Brazil and Venezuela..

MarquisdeSade1
12-01-20, 06:28
And yes many barrio chicas have an Asian fetish LOL.I hope this then means they're paying you well?

Knowledge
12-01-20, 07:14
Fake news say the girls of Gusto.


They have doubts. I get firsthand Gusto intel now. I have inside connects LOL.

JjBee62
12-01-20, 11:58
Your trip was a bust. And you best moments was hanging with a bunch of dudes. That came from your very mouth lmao. You drank some bad squirt that left you close to being on your deathbed. Don't hate the new king of Gusto LOL. We talking gusto, talking gusto. Not FB, FB, GUSTO. LMAO at you jjbee. David Chapelle would say i am Gusto Rich *****.You should go back and read again. All that weed is affecting your memory. Except for the strep throat sidelining me for a few days my trip met my expectations. The non-pro action didn't come through, but I expressed my doubts about it before I boarded the plane.

As for hanging out with good friends, that ranks pretty high on my list. I've had sex with Colombian hookers before. While it's almost always a great time, it's also predictable. Compare different reviews by the same person and most look like a copy and paste job. Occasionally one will either exceed expectations or fall short, but most are business as usual. I'd much rather take a few hours or a day off from sex that I'm not really interested in (if you have to go through all the mental gymnastics every time in order to nut, you're not really interested in the sex) and do something interesting.

However, this is about your Gusto claims and they don't carry water.

Unless you're pulling a girl directly from Gusto, you're not getting a Gusto girl. On any given night I can spot a girl in Gusto, or elsewhere in Parque Lleras, who's on my Facebook. If I approach her in Gusto, she'll ask a Gusto price. If I send her a message, while she's in Gusto, I can set her up for the next day at Facebook rates.

Not long ago someone reported seeing a Centro girl working in Parque Lleras. If you pull her in Lleras, she's a Lleras girl. If you pull her in Centro she's a Centro girl. She's not charging 30 k in Lleras and she's not getting 200 k in El Centro.

Pull a girl directly from Gusto, at least 1 hour before closing, for 200 k and you've accomplished something. Get a girl through Facebook, who you once saw in Gusto for 220 k and all you've done is what everyone who uses Facebook does, except you didn't get the BBBJ, which is almost always included.

Don't order your coronation mugs yet.

JjBee62
12-01-20, 12:59
I don't know if he meant revenge per se, but semantics aside, I understand what he's saying and doing.

When I go to a venue where chumps are driving up prices, I don't get upset, I get "revenge" whilst giving the middle finger to all of them.

I double down, instead of trying to out bid them, I outsmart them, instead of increasing prices further.

I take it down 50% or 75% of what is standard rate and ask for way more than what is expected from those overpaying.

BM if you want to declare yourself King you have to 1st get PSE BBFS and instead of haggling over 10 k either get them for free.You need to include a warning with posts like this. This post nearly melted my bullshit detector.

I've never heard of any mongering venue where everyone is advertising how much they are paying. Is it members only and do you get a secret decoder ring?

Let's say you tried to act out this fantasy at a place like Gusto. Typically girls in Gusto are asking 400-600 k, some want more, a few will go for less, especially around closing time. However, the standard rate is from 150-200 k. 50% of that means you plan on asking 75-100 k and then asking for much more than standard, which is 1-2 hours, BBBJ, CFS etc. Within 15 minutes of you making your first offer, you'll find that not one girl will approach you. If you persist with trying to get a girl to accept your terms, soon one of the nice bouncers will kindly suggest you take your business elsewhere.

That's a great way to outsmart those other guys!

I saw first-hand what happens when someone thinks they can outsmart the system. A guy was looking for a girl. I told him I could recommend 1. I told him her rate. I told him her rate was not negotiable. I told him not to call her if he wasn't interested in paying her rate. He assured me he understood and then proceeded to try your fantasy game. He only offered half, he insisted on BBFS, he insulted her thinking she would lower her price. He never saw her and most of the girls he tried to set dates with were no shows.

Blakman
12-01-20, 15:59
You keep reverting back to facebook cause that's all you know. Your not even a Gusto type. Slapshot yeah but not you. I met these chicks in Gusto and did my due diligence to conquer. Combination of physical attraction along with skills made this a done deal. Now I have the other cartegena sister left to be had. So JJBEE AS aaron rodgers would say relax tranquilla. Zip it. Let Gusto king work. I am Gusto rich be**tch LOL


You should go back and read again. All that weed is affecting your memory. Except for the strep throat sidelining me for a few days my trip met my expectations. The non-pro action didn't come through, but I expressed my doubts about it before I boarded the plane.

As for hanging out with good friends, that ranks pretty high on my list. I've had sex with Colombian hookers before. While it's almost always a great time, it's also predictable. Compare different reviews by the same person and most look like a copy and paste job. Occasionally one will either exceed expectations or fall short, but most are business as usual. I'd much rather take a few hours or a day off from sex that I'm not really interested in (if you have to go through all the mental gymnastics every time in order to nut, you're not really interested in the sex) and do something interesting.

However, this is about your Gusto claims and they don't carry water.

Unless you're pulling a girl directly from Gusto, you're not getting a Gusto girl. On any given night I can spot a girl in Gusto, or elsewhere in Parque Lleras, who's on my Facebook. If I approach her in Gusto, she'll ask a Gusto price. If I send her a message, while she's in Gusto, I can set her up for the next day at Facebook rates.

Not long ago someone reported seeing a Centro girl working in Parque Lleras. If you pull her in Lleras, she's a Lleras girl. If you pull her in Centro she's a Centro girl. She's not charging 30 k in Lleras and she's not getting 200 k in El Centro.

Pull a girl directly from Gusto, at least 1 hour before closing, for 200 k and you've accomplished something. Get a girl through Facebook, who you once saw in Gusto for 220 k and all you've done is what everyone who uses Facebook does, except you didn't get the BBBJ, which is almost always included.

Don't order your coronation mugs yet..

Game Time
12-01-20, 16:31
And they said it couldn't be done, not by a cheapy charlie non speaking fluent spanish. Well 2 weeks ago I had a dance with a girl at gusto and when she ask for a drink I said later. She said well dance with Me later. I spaced myself. A week later I saw her lleras park and requested the number which I collected. To describe her. European colombian with perfect tits, no kids. We make several deals ending in cancelations. The price is 200 k total condom. I delete her but with sucess of cartegena. I feel confident she will act right. I recuop her number via facebook. Contact her set up the meet. She acts perfectly obedient not wanting to lose the sale.

She arrives via uber or didi and want me give taxi 10 mil. I have 20 mil. Taxi has no change. They drive up get change. She walks back to me nice built, smaller but just as good if not better than cartegena. I understand how she qualifies for gusto. We smoke that crepa and she becomes the sexiest, most sensual chick alive. I give her a massage. The body is perfectly curved and shaped. She enjoys it but seems sensitive and impatient. She request the condom and puts it on. She starts to break down my body from sucking my cock to sensual touches on my nipples. Man she found my weak spot. She is skilled and rides well. So in control she was. Then we go to to missionary. She's relax with that sexy european look, her tits are perfect. Great boob job or naturally perfect. Either one I don't care. Its a joy to view and touch. We then go doggy. She's raises her voice for me to cum but then gets lost in the enjoyment of the sex. This continues back forth with her pleading with me to cum then continuing to enjoy the fuck. I grew concern she would get aggressive. But she did it again saying cum cum and continue getting fuck. I didn't understand it but it was working in my favor LOL. She decides to get on top. Believing she was going ride the cum out of me. .I don't get it! Every time I've gone to Gustos babes are talking 180-200 USD. I text them the next day and its 200 mil at my place. Done that many times. My boy who is a Medellin pro told me the first time he took me to Gusto to just get phone numbers because the prices in the club are crazy. Only difference to me is when the babe shows up the next day, she's not dressed as fancy!

Knowledge
12-01-20, 16:46
Absolutely that's a pet peeve of mine too. It's cheating, an attempt to collect a fee without earning it. I also really dislike it when a girl manually strokes during oral to essentially do what anyone can do themselves instead of giving a blow job. I once saw a light bulb go on over a girl's head when I explained to her that it doesn't help during sex if she starts poking and twisting body parts other than a guy's pelvic area. She looked confused when I said it so I then used the example of when dentists stick a needle in your gum or cheek they always grab and shake the other side of your mouth so the needle pain before the anesthetic kicks in is not noticeable. In an attempt to speed up the session to get you to finish some girls will grab nipples, stroke your back, anything really in an attempt to accelerate the sex acts. For me at least it makes it harder to finish.


As far as the Chica wanting you to cum by telling you to do so, well I fucking hate that, and if they think I'm going to cum by telling me to come, it does just the opposite for me. Sometimes when I have hard time finishing, the visuals put me over the top, just as you described.

RiceRocket99
12-01-20, 18:23
No, but I get 3-4 hours with many of them along with BBFS on the menu about 50% of the time for 150 mil plus taxi. I've had a few BBFS 3 somes that wasn't planned at all, but with all the partying good shit happens.


I hope this then means they're paying you well?

MarquisdeSade1
12-01-20, 18:33
No, but I get 3-4 hours with many of them along with BBFS on the menu about 50% of the time for 150 mil plus taxi. I've had a few BBFS 3 somes that wasn't planned at all, but with all the partying good shit happens.Now just bump that 50% of the time up to 100%.

LeyenLouvain
12-01-20, 19:33
One of the most dangerous areas according to colombiareports.com is Barrio Antiquoia aka Barrio Trinidad which I assumed to be on the periphery of the city.

However, the only place I can find with that name is just north of the airport Olaya Herrera, not far down from Parque Lleras.

Is that the same place?

MiamiBoy1
12-01-20, 19:40
I don't get it! Every time I've gone to Gustos babes are talking 180-200 USD. I text them the next day and its 200 mil at my place. Done that many times. My boy who is a Medellin pro told me the first time he took me to Gusto to just get phone numbers because the prices in the club are crazy. Only difference to me is when the babe shows up the next day, she's not dressed as fancy!This is a great strategy! Get a drink, check out the scene, collect a few numbers and get the fuck out) contact them the next day with 150-200 k offers. Brilliant!

Thanks for the advice!

Combo
12-01-20, 21:04
One of the most dangerous areas according to colombiareports.com is Barrio Antiquoia aka Barrio Trinidad which I assumed to be on the periphery of the city.

However, the only place I can find with that name is just north of the airport Olaya Herrera, not far down from Parque Lleras.

Is that the same place?Yup right by the airport. It's where a lot of drug deals go down. It's a small area and not necessarily th worst in MDE, but there's no reason for you to hang out there.

Surfer500
12-01-20, 22:26
You keep reverting back to facebook cause that's all you know. Your not even a Gusto type. Slapshot yeah but not you. I met these chicks in Gusto and did my due diligence to conquer. Combination of physical attraction along with skills made this a done deal. Now I have the other cartegena sister left to be had. So JJBEE AS aaron rodgers would say relax tranquilla. Zip it. Let Gusto king work. I am Gusto rich be**tch LOLQuite frankly, the only real fan of Gusto's on this board, and you do recall him, as he was posting just prior to the Pandemic when you where here, and he posted relentlessly about all his conquests there which to this date nobody knows if they were for real or not.

So in his place, if you want to be the King of Gustos until he returns, the crown is yours, but it really isn't anything to brag about as the majority of the board members here consider the place to be an overpriced scam for suckers, albeit it has it's place alongside Lleras for the very wealthy spending a short time in Medellin who might be staying at the Charlee Hotel.

Wolf662
12-01-20, 22:30
Right on man!

Ain't rocket science, LOL.

Just takes patience and some persistence.

Glad your enjoying life again after your about with dehydration.

I'm just back from 5 days in Medellin.

Had a great time as usual!

Hit Botero quite a bit since I stayed at Hotel Nutibara, convenient to say the least.With the hotel Botero closed I need a new Centro hotel that's not a dump, it's my understanding that Nutibara has a no guests after 6 pm policy? Can you come in the back way thru the restaurant la Raza and sneak guests upstairs with out the front desk knowing?

Mcd2293
12-01-20, 22:38
I don't get it! Every time I've gone to Gustos babes are talking 180-200 USD. I text them the next day and its 200 mil at my place. Done that many times. My boy who is a Medellin pro told me the first time he took me to Gusto to just get phone numbers because the prices in the club are crazy. Only difference to me is when the babe shows up the next day, she's not dressed as fancy!I'm going to try this trick out this week. Usually I've been settling for the 150 USD just because I want some overnight girl to fuck me that night and again in the morning, so I justify it with being 75 USD per fuck. Let's see if I can get numbers and ask if they want 200 k for an hour the following morning.

Junior11
12-01-20, 23:23
250 k for 1 pop and she wasn't happy?

Is she one of the twin sisters from CTG?


So today is the day one of cartegena sisters from gusto came into blakmans world. Let me tell you I saw what saw. This girl was a legit 7/8. Very little body fat. Beautiful sparkling teeth and seductive eyes and ways. Was sexual right away. Unbuttoning my pants, kisses. Half act half really her. Pour her a drink then we light up the weed. We smoke a little together. We take videos she strips and take shower. I bring her to bedroom and give her the body oil massage. Then I turn her over and give her the front body massage. I lick her pussy. It gets her excited. She licks the shaft of my dick spits on it. Then goes for the condom. I start whining like a baby. She delays the condom licks the shaft then goes for condom at this point I am confident the head will be fantastic. She sucks while looking at me. Clearly she's a super skilled woman. She sucks it very well ask me if I want to leche. Hell no I want to fuck you. She positions doggy and I am hitting it telling her the me. Everytime I say it she moves faster til it hits her. She slows down and posution in another doggy position, then she rides me front and cowgirl. I am in heaven. Another pretty chick that loves to fuck. We then go missionary. I want to nut this position but it doesn't happen. She suggest to take the condom off and suck me off. She's make all kinds of faces to get me off. Final a huge nut. I wonder how far did it travel in san peters. She loves it. Now part of how I got her to see me was talking dirty, the body oil massage, and showing her gifts I have. After the session she ask for 300 k then she ask for a gift. I said no. I gave 250 k. She ask if we could go dancing toherher. I was like ok. But she seem like she left upset cause I gave her 250 k. She walk her self out. That was my time with cartegena / Gusto girl. I want to give credit to a russian member. Is advice encouraged me to givr her 40 extra minutes time to arrive.

SlapShot10
12-02-20, 00:15
Pinky invited over some friends for alborada (midnight fireworks celebration). Her friend from Cartagena arrived first. She is innocent, and we had some good times in CTG. She's living here, now, for school. Well, right when we're about to get in the jacuzzi, the bff lesbian shows up. Lesbian, but we fuck all the time. I wasn't too pleased, because we had finished dinner and two bottles of wine, and the mood was heading in the right direction, with plenty of time before midnight. Anyhow, we were partying and the lesbian started puking after one pass. The innocent one got freaked out by that, and boom, both are out of commission. Miserable.

Then, the other little lesbian shows up. She's the one we had a threesome with, but I didn't remember it. So, she saves the day, and she's ready to party. Eventually, the innocent one comes back from the dead. She gets in the jacuzzi, and it's the four of us. The lesbian starts going at the innocent one, and it's love at first lick. We all head to the bedroom, and it's a free-for-all. It was amazing. All BBFS, pussy everywhere, all the girls pleasuring each other and me. Fanfuckingtastic. Back to the hot tub, alborada videos at midnight, and then the party continued. This morning, I was pounding Pinky and couldn't finish. The lesbian is a good listener and brings her ass to the bedroom to help. Two minutes later and it's blast off.

All free, no condom, how did this become my normal life?

JjBee62
12-02-20, 00:22
With the hotel Botero closed I need a new Centro hotel that's not a dump, it's my understanding that Nutibara has a no guests after 6 pm policy? Can you come in the back way thru the restaurant la Raza and sneak guests upstairs with out the front desk knowing?Try Hotel 47 Street. It's nearby the San Antonio Exito. A friend just stayed there and said dealing directly with the hotel, $17 a night for the basic room, no problems with bringing in chicas. One of his friends rented the jacuzzi suite there and they spent a few nights partying with girls in the jacuzzi. From the photo he sent it looks to be big enough to hold 8 people. If I remember right, that was about $75 a night.

JjBee62
12-02-20, 00:24
Yup right by the airport. It's where a lot of drug deals go down. It's a small area and not necessarily th worst in MDE, but there's no reason for you to hang out there.There's a little clothing outlet mall there with decent prices on name brand clothes. Walked back to Poblado one day after seeing another guy off to Cúcuta from the airport. Bought a couple of pairs of jeans.

Knowledge
12-02-20, 01:08
There are a few similar hotels near there. It would be safer to find one nearer the San Jose church in case you want to walk from the strip clubs. The other day I noticed the Hotel Normandia is shut down too. No big loss there. I'm not sure La Raza is operating any longer.


Try Hotel 47 Street. It's nearby the San Antonio Exito. A friend just stayed there and said dealing directly with the hotel, $17 a night for the basic room, no problems with bringing in chicas. One of his friends rented the jacuzzi suite there and they spent a few nights partying with girls in the jacuzzi. From the photo he sent it looks to be big enough to hold 8 people. If I remember right, that was about $75 a night.

MarquisdeSade1
12-02-20, 02:34
Pinky invited over some friends for alborada (midnight fireworks celebration). Her friend from Cartagena arrived first. She is innocent, and we had some good times in CTG. She's living here, now, for school. Well, right when we're about to get in the jacuzzi, the bff lesbian shows up. Lesbian, but we fuck all the time. I wasn't too pleased, because we had finished dinner and two bottles of wine, and the mood was heading in the right direction, with plenty of time before midnight. Anyhow, we were partying and the lesbian started puking after one pass. The innocent one got freaked out by that, and boom, both are out of commission. Miserable.

Then, the other little lesbian shows up. She's the one we had a threesome with, but I didn't remember it. So, she saves the day, and she's ready to party. Eventually, the innocent one comes back from the dead. She gets in the jacuzzi, and it's the four of us. The lesbian starts going at the innocent one, and it's love at first lick. We all head to the bedroom, and it's a free-for-all. It was amazing. All BBFS, pussy everywhere, all the girls pleasuring each other and me. Fanfuckingtastic. Back to the hot tub, alborada videos at midnight, and then the party continued. This morning, I was pounding Pinky and couldn't finish. The lesbian is a good listener and brings her ass to the bedroom to help. Two minutes later and it's blast off.

All free, no condom, how did this become my normal life?It looks like the Puta Gods really like you!

LivingFossil
12-02-20, 02:36
Damn I was going to go after New Years, my favorite activity is finding random hot girls at Parque LLeras, now what will I do.

Does this mean no Casas or Brothels?

I might have to learn how to do the facebook thing. Do you all share contacts?

I think I might just go February, I wonder what will happen with Carnival.

JGomez90
12-02-20, 02:46
Where is it? Trying to find the address but can't find it anywhere.

TimeKeeper281
12-02-20, 04:24
Hey guys,

Do you think they would put the country under quarantine again, or is that highly doubtful even if it gets worse? I think I am going to come down for the winter. Its been too long.

Edit note, I am a low key guy who has a full Rolodex and just orders in... so no bars, casas, or clubs is fine.

Balboa
12-02-20, 04:40
With the hotel Botero closed I need a new Centro hotel that's not a dump, it's my understanding that Nutibara has a no guests after 6 pm policy? Can you come in the back way thru the restaurant la Raza and sneak guests upstairs with out the front desk knowing?Hotel Nutibara:

I had guests come in at all hours, daytime, night time.

The night guy is really cool.

He let my girl come up without me even being down stairs.

He just called to let me know she was there.

She left her cédula at the front desk and picked it up on her way out.

Sangnyc21
12-02-20, 04:45
Hey guys,

Do you think they would put the country under quarantine again, or is that highly doubtful even if it gets worse? I think I am going to come down for the winter. Its been too long.

Edit note, I am a low key guy who has a full Rolodex and just orders in... so no bars, casas, or clubs is fine.I think for just calling girls over shouldn't be an issue. I'm planning on spending 2 months there and tho I love to go out and party on weekends I'm thinking ordering in most of the time is the better play.

TimeKeeper281
12-02-20, 07:21
I think for just calling girls over shouldn't be an issue. I'm planning on spending 2 months there and tho I love to go out and party on weekends I'm thinking ordering in most of the time is the better play.Yeah. I am going to be working. I am low key anyway. I have 50 girls on speed dial. So I just need out of this prison to do something similar.

JjBee62
12-02-20, 07:57
Since Gusto is the current hot topic, maybe some more background will be useful. I'm using 4 sources for this. The first is a long-time resident of Parque Lleras who probably was in a position to have inside information. Next source, my own experience in Gusto. Third source are the reports from guys who have frequented Gusto. The final source is speculation based on the other sources.

I was told the owner of Gusto originally paid the working girls to hang out there. I don't know how much, or if he still subsidizes them, but his plan worked. There's nothing special about Gusto. No special decor, no dancefloor and the DJ is just average. They probably have the highest prices of any night club in Medellin. Yet, they draw more gringos than any other club. All because you can always find girls who will party with you and then go to bed with you.

Nothing I've seen at Gusto makes me think you'll find the holy grail there. You can find girls who look just as good anywhere in the city. A $20 dress and $5 worth of make-up will turn almost any girl into a Gusto queen.

As others have reported, girls at Gusto want top dollar. What you may not understand is their high price benefits Gusto.

The customers Gusto wants to attract are the weekend millionaires. They don't make any money from the guys sipping on the same Coke for 3 hours searching for a girl who'll fuck for 100 k. If the girls were all accepting 100 k, the place would be packed with guys spending no money trying to talk the girls down to 80 k. The guys spending $1000 a night wouldn't be able to get through the door.

Gusto girls charge a high price because that benefits Gusto. If you don't want to pay that price, catch her outside of Gusto where your low-ball rate doesn't threaten the profit margin.

The prices at Gusto didn't jump up because 2 guys showed up and started throwing money around. The prices are high because Gusto is only interested in the customers who come in and start throwing money around.

Gusto isn't for everyone. If you're interested in dancing, it's probably the worst place to go. However, if you're happy spending $200-$400 plus another $150-$200 for a girl, it can be a fun place to party.

I'm well aware you can spend $10 in Gusto and collect phone numbers, but all you're doing is paying $10 for something you can get right out front of Gusto.

Osteoknot
12-02-20, 10:24
During my 12 days in Medellin in November this is what I saw and experienced:

Almost every place I went into, from a Raudal bar to La Isla, was requiring everyone to sanitize their hands and they were taking everyone's temperature. Many places were sanitizing shoes as well. Almost everyone one the street, unless they were eating or drinking, was wearing a mask. Some restaurants and Exito had a separate entrance point and exit point.

While bars, discos and restaurants were open, many places either haven't reopened, or have gone out of business. Most bars are closing at midnight. Once seated at a restaurant, or inside the bar, masks are not required. Some restaurants have reduced seating for social distancing. Many stores only allow a certain number of customers at one time. I saw long lines at many places, although I'm not sure what the people were waiting to get into.

San Peter Apartments, where I stayed, would not let anyone in or out without a mask. Ran into a few guys in the elevator who were sent back to get a mask. They also checked my temperature every time I returned.

Unless that has all changed in the last 8 days, she's not giving you accurate information.I don't know why she would say that if she didn't believe it, Having me down there does not make that big of a difference in her life. I think it's mainly that same old pretense, Perception is Reality, and for whatever reason, that is what she perceives is going on. Thanks for taking the time to give the feedback.

Blakman
12-02-20, 10:29
Just saying quality wise.


Pinky invited over some friends for alborada (midnight fireworks celebration). Her friend from Cartagena arrived first. She is innocent, and we had some good times in CTG. She's living here, now, for school. Well, right when we're about to get in the jacuzzi, the bff lesbian shows up. Lesbian, but we fuck all the time. I wasn't too pleased, because we had finished dinner and two bottles of wine, and the mood was heading in the right direction, with plenty of time before midnight. Anyhow, we were partying and the lesbian started puking after one pass. The innocent one got freaked out by that, and boom, both are out of commission. Miserable.

Then, the other little lesbian shows up. She's the one we had a threesome with, but I didn't remember it. So, she saves the day, and she's ready to party. Eventually, the innocent one comes back from the dead. She gets in the jacuzzi, and it's the four of us. The lesbian starts going at the innocent one, and it's love at first lick. We all head to the bedroom, and it's a free-for-all. It was amazing. All BBFS, pussy everywhere, all the girls pleasuring each other and me. Fanfuckingtastic. Back to the hot tub, alborada videos at midnight, and then the party continued. This morning, I was pounding Pinky and couldn't finish. The lesbian is a good listener and brings her ass to the bedroom to help. Two minutes later and it's blast off.

All free, no condom, how did this become my normal life?.

MaddTraveler
12-02-20, 10:54
Hello fellas,

Newb here! Looks like it's confirmed that Col want PCR test again. Is it worth going since they're also closing bars / clubs also beginning this week. Any other updates please let me know since getting ready to cancel ticket and refill my lube LOL.

I'll prob head to Sosua since they have that playa where you can chill during the day, whereas in Col I'll be stuck in a hotel all day unless I'm hunting. That to me isn't a vaca.

Any thoughts?

Reliable source: https://www.eltiempo.com/salud/ministerio-de-salud-dice-que-por-ahora-las-pruebas-pcr-no-son-requisito-para-entrar-a-colombia-552174.

SpiderRider
12-02-20, 13:53
Pinky invited over some friends for alborada (midnight fireworks celebration). Her friend from Cartagena arrived first. She is innocent, and we had some good times in CTG. She's living here, now, for school. Well, right when we're about to get in the jacuzzi, the bff lesbian shows up. Lesbian, but we fuck all the time. I wasn't too pleased, because we had finished dinner and two bottles of wine, and the mood was heading in the right direction, with plenty of time before midnight. Anyhow, we were partying and the lesbian started puking after one pass. The innocent one got freaked out by that, and boom, both are out of commission. Miserable.

Then, the other little lesbian shows up. She's the one we had a threesome with, but I didn't remember it. So, she saves the day, and she's ready to party. Eventually, the innocent one comes back from the dead. She gets in the jacuzzi, and it's the four of us. The lesbian starts going at the innocent one, and it's love at first lick. We all head to the bedroom, and it's a free-for-all. It was amazing. All BBFS, pussy everywhere, all the girls pleasuring each other and me. Fanfuckingtastic. Back to the hot tub, alborada videos at midnight, and then the party continued. This morning, I was pounding Pinky and couldn't finish. The lesbian is a good listener and brings her ass to the bedroom to help. Two minutes later and it's blast off.

All free, no condom, how did this become my normal life?I'm having problems with my VISA and the legalities of being in Colombia after the lockdown. Into my 12th month here now. Immigration dept is a cluster-fuck of confusion. Its a huge hassle. Your posts inspire me to keep up the effort to get it resolved instead of just bailing for a few months. As does this live-in sweetheart. Never a hint of trouble from her, its amazing

Husker Dude
12-02-20, 15:57
Where is it? Trying to find the address but can't find it anywhere.Are you referring to the Mansion? Look at hotelmedellinplaza.com.

Knowledge
12-02-20, 16:39
You have to decide for yourself of course. The resumption of testing is at the request of a judge. Tje Minister of Health opposes it. It may or may not happen. There weeks mention on this site that liquor sales would be banned beginning yesterday. That hasn't happened. I don't hang out in bars much but as best I can tell they were open as of last night. I don't know if you have been here; it has very little in common with Sosua.


Hello fellas,

Newb here! Looks like it's confirmed that Col want PCR test again. Is it worth going since they're also closing bars / clubs also beginning this week. Any other updates please let me know since getting ready to cancel ticket and refill my lube LOL.

I'll prob head to Sosua since they have that playa where you can chill during the day, whereas in Col I'll be stuck in a hotel all day unless I'm hunting. That to me isn't a vaca.

Any thoughts?

Reliable source: https://www.eltiempo.com/salud/ministerio-de-salud-dice-que-por-ahora-las-pruebas-pcr-no-son-requisito-para-entrar-a-colombia-552174.

Surfer500
12-02-20, 17:48
Where is it? Trying to find the address but can't find it anywhere.It's in El Centro across from Perodista Park the address is Carrea 43 # 53-54. They have a nice balcony overlooking the Park directly below.

GringoItaliano
12-02-20, 18:32
Why and How I Went There.

The Colombian government's decision to drop its COVID-19 testing requirement in early November 2020 prompted me to start planning a return trip to Colombia. I had time off the week of Thanksgiving that I was unable to use to visit family in New York due to travel restrictions there, so I decided to go to Colombia that week instead. I expected that the upcoming Christmas shopping season would make the girls more receptive and flexible, particularly after they had been largely out of business for months.

Medellin was the obvious place to go, and not only because it is the most preeminent city for mongering in Colombia. I thought that Internet pipelining in particular would be the most fruitful form of mongering at a time when many in-person venues would be either closed, slow, or still recovering from the lockdown. Facebook is of course the biggest market niche for foreign mongers in Medellin anyway, rather than the in-person venues; I figured that the Medellin Facebook scene would be a better choice at this time than, say, Santa Fe in Bogota, or the clubs and the Clock Tower of Cartagena.

I planned the trip on relatively short notice, which has become the norm for me this year, since travel conditions can change so quickly. I wanted to enter Colombia before it changed its entry policies again. This decision turned out to be a wise move; after my arrival, a Colombian judge ruled that inbound travelers needed both a COVID-19 test and a quarantine, although the Colombian government later indicated that it would not implement this ruling for now. Given the short time frame, I chose my lodging conservatively and rented the same apartment from the same well-known, chica-friendly rental agency that provided my lodging for my last trip. Having moved from New York to Miami since my last trip, the flight options were more numerous, shorter in length, and lower in price. I chose JetBlue, which is my preferred airline and flies directly from Fort Lauderdale, for a points redemption flight.

Pipelining.

As I had done in the past, I began contacting Facebook girls privately about a week before my arrival in order to identify suitable candidates. I also posted a public announcement of my travel plans at that time and then a follow-up announcement of my actual arrival. These announcements had worked well for me in the past; it brought some girls out of the woodwork that I might have otherwise missed, and it made the girls that I had already contacted more responsive. This time I think that it may have worked too well, as I received a literally overwhelming response, to the point that the number of girls blowing up my phone became a distraction and a nuisance. They were clearly hungrier for business than in the past. I prioritized my best contacts by transitioning our conversations to WhatsApp and leaving Messenger for candidates that I was still screening, or that were less desirable.

I presume that the lack of business for several months must have been a major factor in this literally overwhelming response. My relocation to Miami may have been another factor. On previous visits, none of the girls seemed to take any interest in my location in New York, whereas several of them commented on my new location in Miami this time. I imagine that they view Miami-based mongers as more desirable clients because it is easier for them to visit more often and thus provide repeat business.

The girls' greater receptiveness enabled me to have citas with girls who had been on my radar for some time but were previously unavailable or unacceptable to me for various reasons. Some girls who had not responded to my messages in preparation for previous visits did respond to me in connection with this trip. There were other girls that I did not see on previous trips because the vibe that I had gotten from them before was lukewarm, but I saw them this time and was pleasantly surprised at how well we vibed together. Other girls had become more flexible on their terms, such as pricing and services, than in the past, so I decided to see them this time. For example, some insisted on CBJ when I spoke with them before, so I passed. Those same girls were now open to BBBJ, so I had citas with them this time. Some girls proactively expressed willingness to let me hit it raw, which I had not encountered on previous trips. Some girls wanted more money for this level of service, and some did not.

The downside of this greater hunger for money and the impact of the long lockdown is that it may have also fueled more scammy or otherwise suspicious or undesirable behavior. I suspect that some girls may have developed some bad habits while struggling to survive the lockdown by getting money online. For example, more than a few girls that I contacted wanted me to send them money in advance as a deposit in order to book a cita or to cover their transportation costs, which I viewed as a huge red flag. I presume that they never would have showed up if I had sent them money in advance. I tested those suspicions by offering to send them Ubers instead, which they of course refused.

I also found more than a few girls who quoted me prices in USD specifically, $100 USD. I was aware of Gusto girls quoting high USD prices before the lockdown, but I had never encountered this practice on Facebook, and the repeatedly quoted price of $100 USD is high by Facebook standards but still well below Gusto levels. Some of these high USD price quotes came from already known girls, including one who had previously quoted me a more typical price in COP just this past March. I am curious if the decline of the Colombian peso's value against the USD had anything to do with this new USD pricing.

I also received far more unsolicited offers of threesomes in preparation for and during this trip than ever before in fact, probably far more than for all my previous trips combined. I generally view unsolicited offers of threesomes from a girl that I have never met as a red flag, indicating either an intent for robbery or merely the half-assed performances that threesomes sometimes yield.

Some mongers have long feared that an influx of gringos would turn Colombia into Costa Rica, with girls quoting $100 USD prices, demanding money up front, and providing half-assed service. It would be ironic if it was actually the lockdown and the absence of gringos that fueled such behavior.

Performance.

As many mongers and I would have expected, a majority of the Facebook girls that I saw seemed more eager to please, were more affectionate and GFE, and demonstrated better attitudes on this first post-lockdown visit. Indeed, I would say that this trip yielded some of the most powerful GFE that I have encountered in Colombia thus far, and I met a few gems that I will see again in the future. Some of the girls spent so long with me that I had to hustle a few of them out the door to prepare for my next cita.

The most marked difference was their greater interest in using the jacuzzi in my apartment. On my last trip in March in the same apartment, only one girl wanted to or was even willing to use the jacuzzi, despite my frequent suggestions; the others did not want to get their hair wet or seemed to want to move on. On this trip, I used the jacuzzi during most of my citas and rarely had to suggest it to the girls; many of them proactively expressed interest in using it. Perhaps the lack of citas over several months made them more appreciative of such luxuries that citas can provide for them.

On the downside, it is possible that the lockdown and the associated hardships have worsened existing behavioral problems among some of the girls, specifically drug abuse, mental illness, and general flakiness. This trip was the first trip on which I had to expel girls from my apartment and abort citas due to behavioral problems, and I had to do it twice. Perhaps I was just lucky on my previous trips and the odds just caught up with me this time, but lockdowns and the related hardships around the world have caused or worsened drug abuse and mental health problems for many people. One girl (DM me for her Facebook name) spazzed and lost her shit when I told her that I did not have any drugs. This reaction came as quite an unpleasant surprise to me, as she had actually struck me as more stable and mature during our online interactions. Another one (DM me for her Facebook name) displayed some extremely erratic and bizarre behavior, which I would attribute to either drug use, mental illness, or some combination of both. This incident also came as a surprise, as she had seemed relatively normal when we spoke online. More generally, the level of overall paisa flakiness was higher on this trip than I experienced in the past. Only a handful of girls were actually on time, and their lateness was often more egregious. More girls than usual failed to keep our cita arrangements or just ghosted on me.

Strip Clubs and Street Meat.

After working through my list of high-priority Facebook girls for this trip, I felt that I needed a change of pace and an opportunity to get out of my apartment and check out the merchandise in person. One of my afternoon citas flaked on me, so I decided to go check out Centro for the first time in years. I had read on the forums that the Centro street scene had become unusually active after the lockdown due to slow business at the usual in-person venues. Centro was busier than I expected, and even busier than I remembered from before, both in terms of general activity and particularly in terms of the amount and the quality of street girls. As one might expect, the average quality of the talent was still low, certainly lower than Facebook and maybe even lower than the Centro casas, but still noticeably higher than what I had remembered from before. A bigger problem for me was the pervasiveness of CBJ; it was quite difficult to find a girl who was willing to provide BBBJ. I did eventually find a thick blonde MILF with large and natural tits & ass who quoted a base price of 30 k with an additional 20 k for BBBJ. The service was actually quite good for a quick and cheap polvo in that dump of a short-time hotel. I can certainly see the appeal of the Centro street scene to the cost-conscious "diamonds in the rough" crowd, as well as its usefulness as a backup in the event that an afternoon Facebook cita falls through.

I decided to check out Conejitas nearby, as it was one of the two remaining strip clubs in Medellin that I had not checked out yet on previous trips. I had heard and read rather negative feedback about the quality of the talent at this place, which was why I had not gotten around to it yet. I found the talent pool more appealing than I expected, perhaps because my taste in female body types runs meatier than that of many of the white gringos that frequent Medellin. The girls did however seem quite aloof, E. G. More interested in their phones or talking to their friends, or focused on entertaining the groups of guys with bottles. I left before it got too late to remain in Centro safely.

I realized that this experience left La Isla as the one strip club in Medellin that I had not tried yet. I had found the medium-priced and more popular Fase Dos to be somewhat underwhelming on previous trips and thus saw no reason to try the more expensive La Isla. I had been skeptical of reports of higher-quality talent at La Isla, as my tastes seem to differ considerably from those of other white gringo mongers. I decided to check out La Isla on this trip when a nighttime cita flaked on me, and now I regret not checking it out earlier. La Isla had some of the highest quality talent that I have seen in Colombia, rivaling the strip clubs in Cartagena and the higher-end clubs in northern Bogota. The taller, curvier, and even more heavily silicone-enhanced talent pool was also a much closer fit for my personal taste than the petite and natural flaquitas that seem to have such a huge market share in the gringo-oriented Facebook and Mansion circles. I always wondered where those model-quality, Instagram-quality women were available in Medellin; apparently quite a few of them are at La Isla.

I went for the first time on a Thursday night and had two sessions that night. This experience impressed me enough that I went back again the following Friday night, as I expected a larger talent pool. In retrospect, Thursday went better because the girls gave me more and better attention and I had no problem finding girls willing to do BBBJ. BBBJ became much harder to find on Friday night, despite the slightly larger talent pool, as most girls insisted on CBJ. I suspect that the larger number of customers on a Friday night encouraged the girls to be less flexible on this point, as I experienced this same problem on weekends in Bogota. Paying 300 k for CBJ in Medellin is ridiculous, however hot the girl is. More generally, on Thursday I got the kind of GFE attention that I liked, in an attempt to lure me into a session, whereas on Friday the girls seemed to be more interested in milking me for tips. I will certainly return to La Isla on future trips, but on quieter weeknights with less competition from other customers. This experience also made me want to check out Loutron on future trips, despite my general distaste for casas. I am curious about the reportedly high-quality talent pool there, and I would be interested in hearing someone challenge the common view that Loutron is overpriced and overrated.

The Future.

I enjoyed this trip. The timing was almost ideal, and I learned to refine my use of Facebook as the best market niche in Medellin. I found several girls worthy of repeats, more so than on previous trips. I also learned that the volume of activity and the number and range of options can be overwhelming, and that it can be difficult to assess girls correctly online before meeting them in person, for better or worse. I also reconsidered my previously low level of interest in Medellin's in-person venues. If nothing else, those in-person options are a useful backup for whenever a Facebook cita falls through, and I will make a point of returning to La Isla and possibly trying Loutron in the future.

Husker Dude
12-02-20, 20:35
Hello fellas,

Newb here! Looks like it's confirmed that Col want PCR test again. Is it worth going since they're also closing bars / clubs also beginning this week. Any other updates please let me know since getting ready to cancel ticket and refill my lube LOL.

I'll prob head to Sosua since they have that playa where you can chill during the day, whereas in Col I'll be stuck in a hotel all day unless I'm hunting. That to me isn't a vaca.

Any thoughts?

Reliable source: https://www.eltiempo.com/salud/ministerio-de-salud-dice-que-por-ahora-las-pruebas-pcr-no-son-requisito-para-entrar-a-colombia-552174.It's just a private citizen & Judge in Bogota that wants resumption of negative covid test & quarantine in Colombia. The Minister of Health in Colombia says no test required for now, which is the headline of the article. You are also not under quarantine in Colombia currently. I'm headed there next week.

Mr Enternational
12-02-20, 20:42
You said in your post you smoked some "Crepa". Don't ever do that again. And if your with a Chica that smokes that stuff, you probably shouldn't allow it. I don't know what is in that stuff, but it is bad news and attributed to you not finishing.I was just talking to my girl about it. She said it is crippy (pronounced creepy). It is marijuana laced with chemicals.

Surfer500
12-02-20, 21:25
I was just talking to my girl about it. She said it is crippy (pronounced creepy). It is marijuana laced with chemicals.That was my impression as well, but according to another poster, he said it was a higher grade strain of marijuana with much more THC in it.

I'm not a pot-head, and don't know the difference between Shit and Shinola.

MaddTraveler
12-02-20, 21:37
You have to decide for yourself of course. The resumption of testing is at the request of a judge. Tje Minister of Health opposes it. It may or may not happen. There weeks mention on this site that liquor sales would be banned beginning yesterday. That hasn't happened. I don't hang out in bars much but as best I can tell they were open as of last night. I don't know if you have been here; it has very little in common with Sosua.I appreciate the update, you and Husker Dude. No I haven't been there yet. I don't have the Rona but didn't want to bother going if they required it. I have a good wifey non-pro I've been in contact with, heck even got couple whatsapp from local chaturbate girls that are waiting for me LOL. I guess I still have good reasons to visit. Will be there 10 days from Dec 6, scanning this site for hotel recommendations, preferably Laureless area, etc; so any other tips will be appreciated.

MarquisdeSade1
12-02-20, 22:33
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN28B4S8

Besides the moral implications of it.

More abortion=less single mothers.

Less single mothers=less single mothers hooking.

Blakman
12-02-20, 23:10
But I think all exotic high grade weed is laced with chemicals. Anyways the one blunt has been shared between 6 different girls. Thats how little I smoke. But we are all okay and performances has been outstanding.


I was just talking to my girl about it. She said it is crippy (pronounced creepy). It is marijuana laced with chemicals..

JjBee62
12-03-20, 00:42
It's in El Centro across from Perodista Park the address is Carrea 43 # 53-54. They have a nice balcony overlooking the Park directly below.One of Medellin's finer 5 star establishments.

Mojo Bandit
12-03-20, 01:13
Here is a video that was made this past day. Just about everyone is wearing masks in Medellin which means that they must still be fining people for not having a mask in public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls2GDL05i5Y


I thought it was an interesting perspective compared to other reports. She is 18 yo, not a pro, but of course I "help her out" whenever we fuck. She has the second tightest pussy I have ever fucked in my life, and she is tempting me or asking me, depending on how your feel about it, to fuck her virgin ass when I return. I will do her that favor, jejeje. I couldn't find a pussy pic of her. I know I had one but I think it got erased by one of my other girls.

She used a translator, the message came in exactly like this:

"Please don't pay attention to the news, Medellin is fine, everyone has already left the masks and the clubs are open.

Medellin I see well, darling, it is not as serious as it seems.

I am not lying my love there are many people who have already left the mask and did not use it again since the whole city is as before.

Believe me that the situation is not serious in Medellin, on the contrary, everything is as before.

Isabelle: I'm not lying about anything love.

I think it is a good love, in these months and I understood the power that the news has to manipulate people but the paisas no longer allowed themselves to be mentalized by what the news said. But everyone realized that it is not like that and now everyone goes out there and the discos are open and the bars too."

I don't know why she kept mentioning "lying" we trust each other. I think she just wants me to hurry back. I am not arguing any of the points she makes, but it's good to see it from their side.

Knowledge
12-03-20, 01:34
It's good to see guys showing up in Medellin again. To be honest, I don't recognize or understand some of the stuff I am reading in the reports but it's fun to read them. The facebook stuff has always confused me but of course I am a Centro rat.

Today I popped into Zandaly and asked to see the lineup to tease the girl I had already asked to see. Cata was my partner in crime; she loves to prank the girls as much as I do. Anyway, the lineup made me think of a Pollo Negro observation he made several times about gringos being known to prefer skinny girls with European features. Well, if it's true gringos should be flocking to Zandaly because there is a preponderance of that type of girl there now. A few years back the famous Nicole was more the norm. Blame it on the Venezolanas I suppose. Oh yeah, they installed the new bar. There are still no stools but there bar is in.

Husker Dude
12-03-20, 01:43
It's just a private citizen & Judge in Bogota that wants resumption of negative covid test & quarantine in Colombia. The Minister of Health in Colombia says no test required for now, which is the headline of the article. You are also not under quarantine in Colombia currently. I'm headed there next week.I just received a newsletter from the Mansion. They state no covid test necessary for entry into Colombia and all bars and nightclubs remain open for December.

Combo
12-03-20, 02:16
FWIW I don't imagine the politicians in Colombia want to follow that judge's orders with the Holidays approaching. Lots of Colombian that live abroad will be traveling to Colombia in the next 2-3 weeks and people would be really pissed off if they had to cancel Christmas visits.


I just received a newsletter from the Mansion. They state no covid test necessary for entry into Colombia and all bars and nightclubs remain open for December.

RiceRocket99
12-03-20, 02:51
I understand your point of view. I am like the other side of the coin. I don't do the Centro scene. In my 8 or so years of going to Medellin, I had fucked probably 2 Casa girls in Centro and that was during my first trip to try anything and everything. I even hit up Loutron as well on that trip just to say I went LOL. Girls def hot, but it was the ambience of the narco mansion that was fascinating to me. I didn't pull any girl and back then it was like 300 k an HR when conversion was 1 USD to 1,800 pesos. Anyways, I always enjoy reading the Centro scene reports even though it's not how I roll. Walking around Centro is always refreshing to me.


It's good to see guys showing up in Medellin again. To be honest, I don't recognize or understand some of the stuff I am reading in the reports but it's fun to read them. The facebook stuff has always confused me but of course I am a Centro rat.

Today I popped into Zandaly and asked to see the lineup to tease the girl I had already asked to see. Cata was my partner in crime; she loves to prank the girls as much as I do. Anyway, the lineup made me think of a Pollo Negro observation he made several times about gringos being known to prefer skinny girls with European features. Well, if it's true gringos should be flocking to Zandaly because there is a preponderance of that type of girl there now. A few years back the famous Nicole was more the norm. Blame it on the Venezolanas I suppose. Oh yeah, they installed the new bar. There are still no stools but there bar is in.

Lucky Nuts
12-03-20, 03:09
It's good to see guys showing up in Medellin again. To be honest, I don't recognize or understand some of the stuff I am reading in the reports but it's fun to read them. The facebook stuff has always confused me but of course I am a Centro rat.

Today I popped into Zandaly and asked to see the lineup to tease the girl I had already asked to see. Cata was my partner in crime; she loves to prank the girls as much as I do. Anyway, the lineup made me think of a Pollo Negro observation he made several times about gringos being known to prefer skinny girls with European features. Well, if it's true gringos should be flocking to Zandaly because there is a preponderance of that type of girl there now. A few years back the famous Nicole was more the norm. Blame it on the Venezolanas I suppose. Oh yeah, they installed the new bar. There are still no stools but there bar is in.Good to hear! I hope it's still under $15 for 30 minutes. Maybe tomorrow.

LouisianaHud
12-03-20, 04:03
100 mil 3 hour 2 leche oral sexo sin condom
This is my go to offer. And I seem to always get great service. The key is 3 hours. It offers you so much time to do so much things with the chica. You aint got to rush. Can I ask, where are you finding girls for this price? It sounds like Centro is not really your style, and you don't go too high end. Curious to hear more about this sweet spot.

Zeos1
12-03-20, 04:32
Globalists - Socialist trying to spread their ideology.Really? It used to be free enterprisers promoting globalism.

Surfer500
12-03-20, 04:41
One of Medellin's finer 5 star establishments.I actually have spent a few nights there with my favorite El Centro Sweetheart. It's right across from "stoner's park" where all the locals hang and smoke joints, do coke, drink beer, and other stuff. Kind of a Bohemian type of crowd with people playing guitars, however neither Slapshot nor Blakman would fit in here, but I felt right at home, and blended right in as nobody knew I was a gringo until they heard me speaking Spanish.

The Hotel has a very nice balcony, and after a session one evening with my Chica, I went out and picked up some food and we sat on the balcony and ate dinner. I brought a bottle of Malbec, and while we were sipping on the wine, the other guests were smoking joints and drinking beer.

What I really liked about staying there was that there were no other gringos, all just Colombians having a good time. The Mansion, which I believe now is called Casablanca, is the complete polar opposite.

What a transformation for me going back over a decade ago, staying at the Mansions sister Hotel I think called El Castillo once, not understanding anything anybody was saying, travelling around by Taxi to Avenida el La Grief and Mayorista when it used to be good, but no more, and to now blending in with the locals.

I can remember over a decade ago before the gringos started coming that it was actually more expensive than it is now, with the exchange rate being like 1,800 COP to the USD back then.

Conceptually for many of the newer members this may be hard to believe but it's true.

LouisianaHud
12-03-20, 04:50
Been lurking on this board for ages. Finally figured I'd buy my membership and start posting.

I got back from Medellin recently. It was my first trip to Colombia and fell in love with the city and the chicas. Spent 1 week there:

First night (Mario Cart):

Made friends with some other guys in the area and met up for dinner at some hole in the wall place we called Mario Kart in Poblado next to Park Lleras. Food was amazing and cheap. Colombians know how to cook meat. It started raining pretty hard and suddenly there was a table of working girls next to us. I assume they were working in the park and came to the first restaurant with potential clients. Smart chicas, LOL. They seemed friendly enough so we joined the tables. I speak Spanish at like a 3rd grade level so that helped. Also, I like a little bit of shit talk and getting to know her before I'm balls deep and they seemed to be enjoying the convo so win win. The hot and also coldest chica in the group started to warm up and engage in the convo. It was fun to try to win her over a bit. I offered to bring them back to the airbnb. They quoted me 200 k for each. I was feeling generous but didn't want the ugly friend so offered 250 k for the 2 good ones and asked them to lose the ugly friend. They conferred among themselves and said they would all come and would split the 500 k and all 3 would come. It's a party.

We go back to room. One of the chicas has weed on her so we smoke a bit. She charged me 10 k for a good size joint which I thought was reasonable, though I'm sure she paid way less. No complaints, it got the job done and we were all a bit high after. I took the hot one girl to my room and my friend took the slightly less hot one. I start fingering her but she's not super into it. I assume she's too sore from getting pounded regularly. Oh well, I put on a condom and go to town. 20 minutes into it I can't finish. I'm not a fast finisher and it's doubly hard when she's not into and even worse when I've had a lot to drink. I tell her let's take a break and maybe we'll go for round two later. She starts talking about more money and I was kinda done. We smoked a little more weed, talked for another 30 or so minutes and they left.

Later she sent me a bunch of texts and pics. Attaching the best one, LOL. She looked a little older and less sexy in person but def same chica.

Overall for about $70 USD it was a pretty decent first day.

Mojo Bandit
12-03-20, 05:08
"hooking" does not work as meaningful verb here. "hookering" perhaps might make sense to someone.Hooking is a verb, hooker is a noun, hookering is not anything.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hooking

TimeKeeper281
12-03-20, 06:31
Hello fellas,

Newb here! Looks like it's confirmed that Col want PCR test again. Is it worth going since they're also closing bars / clubs also beginning this week. Any other updates please let me know since getting ready to cancel ticket and refill my lube LOL.

I'll prob head to Sosua since they have that playa where you can chill during the day, whereas in Col I'll be stuck in a hotel all day unless I'm hunting. That to me isn't a vaca.

Any thoughts?

Reliable source: https://www.eltiempo.com/salud/ministerio-de-salud-dice-que-por-ahora-las-pruebas-pcr-no-son-requisito-para-entrar-a-colombia-552174.This looks like they are imposing a 14 day quarantine again? Or am I not reading it correctly.

Knowledge
12-03-20, 13:53
You did not read it correctly. There are a couple of posts on here that explain it in English.


This looks like they are imposing a 14 day quarantine again? Or am I not reading it correctly.

Nclpimp
12-03-20, 15:20
This video was interesting to me. That must be what I sound like in Brazil. I clearly understand everything the people said. This guy didn't know what jugo de mora was or ever had a buñuelo before. But he clearly was a monger he was recording the asses everywhere he went. This was a good video. He does stick out like a sore thumb there. His comments was asking for donations or to buy him a beer if you ever see him. LOL. Wish I was there.


Here is a video that was made this past day. Just about everyone is wearing masks in Medellin which means that they must still be fining people for not having a mask in public.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls2GDL05i5Y

Firestix
12-03-20, 17:06
Hi,

Last time, when I was Medellin (five days), had lots of trouble finding girls cause can't speak Spanish. So I decided to look for agencies like escortsfantasia, edenmodelsva, lacelestina. Worked Ok (not young but kind of middle-aged) but a little expensive. I heard about lots of WhatsApp groups and Facebook pages to find younger ones. I don't get to stay longer but want to enjoy with a lot of girls that I can. Happy to spend 2.5 mil pesos per day I am planning to visit again in a couple of months, Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks.

Mr Enternational
12-03-20, 17:47
Can I ask, where are you finding girls for this price? It sounds like Centro is not really your style, and you don't go too high end. Curious to hear more about this sweet spot.He is not finding this price. He is negotiating this price. Where? The internet. I just had to put a chick out that was here 12 hours for 200K. Sure I could have gotten her for cheaper but it is Covid time and I have a good heart. Seemed she did not plan on leaving until I told her to. Very GFE.

SlapShot10
12-03-20, 17:48
Just saying quality wise.

.Apples to oranges, my friend. I literally did not have to do anything. I didn't leave my apartment. I didn't go to an ATM. I didn't pay a cover. I didn't pay for overpriced drinks. No condom. No worries about security. I didn't find out the hard way she was a dud, etc etc etc etc. I was with passionate 19-20 yo whom are plenty good looking enough. In fact, I think both of them have been posted, prior. Keep in mind, several of the girls I have seen in this forum that are not my type are in the 100-250 k range. I'm just saving up for some extra butter, if you know what I mean!

As a wise poster once said:

Spending alot $ for pussy that's not worth it. Examine the fact you pay all that money and she says she's not going down on pretty pinky. I would lose my mind, be livid, and my immaturity would resonate with anger, then imagine she telling me no seconds. I can see policia coming to my apartment again LOL. Anyways don't feel bad a chica that doesn't look nearly as good ask me for 500 mil yesterday.

Anyhow, I had a couple of firsts, yesterday. Neither involved my anus or the police. I took the metro and I went to Parque Arvi. We ended up at some adventure park place called something like Comforma. Climbing 100 ft up in the trees, zip lining, in the pouring rain. I had a couple moments wonder why the fuck I was hanging from a tree, and not sipping a beer in Centro or Lleras, or not picking girls out of a lineup with masks on. Anyway, got some cool picks from the metrocable. It's always nice to have a quick reset button day, to feel normal. Maybe not for the 5-7 day trip, but it's easy to go months here without really doing anything aside from working, fucking, partying, and recovering. I wouldn't necessarily recommend Parque Arvi, although there are other things to do like renting bikes or horses, tours, etc. However, the metro seemed normal. Lots of people with cell phones out, tons of people crammed into the train, but not like the videos of China or India. One of the girls had a Civica card, so it was pretty easy to just throw some money on it and go. I could see why using it to go to and from Parque Berrio, if you are staying near a station, would be ideal.

For those of you in town, the Christmas lights are now up, and a trip in the evening to Parque del Rio with a chica might be a nice way to kill some time and lead into dinner, drinks, etc.

I'm headed out in two weeks, and dreading the thought of being in lockdown in the US. I might buy a return flight to MDE in the next week, just so I have something to look forward to.

Mr Enternational
12-03-20, 17:58
They quoted me 200 k for each. I was feeling generous but didn't want the ugly friend so offered 250 k for the 2 good onesYou are negotiating backwards! You are supposed to negotiate for yourself, not for the people on the other side of the table.

The Tall Man
12-03-20, 18:14
Yes I have frequented centro for a number of years and when things opened back up after the quarantine we were all relieved and hoping that things, especially the chicas and the vibe of the area, gets back to the good old days, well spent a few 4 hours yesterday in and all around centro and yes it was raining but I must say that the selection of chicas was about the worst that I have seen in years, I just hope that this was an off day.

Can anyone else share their experience on the selection and quality in centro.

I did look into those 2 bars across from Botero and had a beer in each, a few good looking chicas but other than that what a dreary day with the rain and all I ended up trolling around San Diego back streets street walkers for a few hours late last night and selection was also very poor, almost pulled the trigger on a cutie but she could not verify the age she was telling me so left the area close to midnight. I lived to fight another day which is today.

Now yesterday my buddies, both gringo and Colombian, go to the casas and each will bang out 2 or 3 or yes even 4 chicas one after the other, I kid you not, my style is completely different but to each his own.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

Chicafan
12-03-20, 18:19
It's just a private citizen & Judge in Bogota that wants resumption of negative covid test & quarantine in Colombia. The Minister of Health in Colombia says no test required for now, which is the headline of the article. You are also not under quarantine in Colombia currently. I'm headed there next week.I'm flying out next Friday. So what if by chance they re-implemented the negative PCR test requirement two days before your flight. SOL?

I'm thinking about taking one next Tuesday, four days before my flight departure. Or, to anyone's knowledge, would that be premature as technically it's 5 days before my arrival? I believe the previous requirement had something to do with taking the test four days before arrival? It's just that where I live I know I can get a PCR on a Tuesday every week. What a hassle.

Combo
12-03-20, 19:09
I'm flying out next Friday. So what if by chance they re-implemented the negative PCR test requirement two days before your flight. SOL?

I'm thinking about taking one next Tuesday, four days before my flight departure. Or, to anyone's knowledge, would that be premature as technically it's 5 days before my arrival? I believe the previous requirement had something to do with taking the test four days before arrival? It's just that where I live I know I can get a PCR on a Tuesday every week. What a hassle.The judge's order was within 48 (not 96 as before) hours of travel and with a quarantine of 14 days. But the health minister sent it back for more clarification. My guess is they wait til after Christmas to reinstate any measures.

Blakman
12-03-20, 19:28
I got in touch with escort just happen to work 3 minutes from san peters. I arrive at the building and its okay. She was very similar to the pic. Tall, proportionate body, nice tits, about 20. Sh kinda protected her beautiful breast. That was a turn off. She ask for money first which was expect. Price 140 k. She was very sensuous, but very cautious with her body which took awhile to fuck her the way I wanted. The head job was good and she did let me deepthroat her some. She was comfortable sucking. The ride was sensuous and slow. 50 50 as far as enjoyment. Doggy was 75 25 as enjoyment. Took her awhile before she let me go full throttle. Missionary, looking at her face, body, tits was great. And I found myself cumming. I relaxed a little and then requested to leave. About 45 minutes. I enjoyed it, she's pretty. But I wouldn't give her my business again.

JjBee62
12-03-20, 19:42
I actually have spent a few nights there with my favorite El Centro Sweetheart. It's right across from "stoner's park" where all the locals hang and smoke joints, do coke, drink beer, and other stuff. Kind of a Bohemian type of crowd with people playing guitars, however neither Slapshot nor Blakman would fit in here, but I felt right at home, and blended right in as nobody knew I was a gringo until they heard me speaking Spanish.

The Hotel has a very nice balcony, and after a session one evening with my Chica, I went out and picked up some food and we sat on the balcony and ate dinner. I brought a bottle of Malbec, and while we were sipping on the wine, the other guests were smoking joints and drinking beer.

What I really liked about staying there was that there were no other gringos, all just Colombians having a good time. The Mansion, which I believe now is called Casablanca, is the complete polar opposite.

What a transformation for me going back over a decade ago, staying at the Mansions sister Hotel I think called El Castillo once, not understanding anything anybody was saying, travelling around by Taxi to Avenida el La Grief and Mayorista when it used to be good, but no more, and to now blending in with the locals..I've never been on the balcony, but I've been inside. I posted a picture of the place 3 years ago and made some joke about it. I was with a friend, sitting in the park while he engaged in one of the activities common in the park, when I noticed the sign for "The Mansion." We went inside and got the woman at the desk to show us a room.

I don't get up to that area often, but I always smile when I see that place.

Surfer500
12-03-20, 21:47
I'm flying out next Friday. So what if by chance they re-implemented the negative PCR test requirement two days before your flight. SOL?

I'm thinking about taking one next Tuesday, four days before my flight departure. Or, to anyone's knowledge, would that be premature as technically it's 5 days before my arrival? I believe the previous requirement had something to do with taking the test four days before arrival? It's just that where I live I know I can get a PCR on a Tuesday every week. What a hassle.I just read an article today that say's that testing will be required for entry within 96 hours, and I'm not completely clear on this, but if the test is more than 48 hours old and negative there will be a quarantine requirement. At least that is what I read and someone else with better Spanish skills perhaps can confirm what I read it's in the Salud section of Notiicias of El Espectador published today December 3.

If true, the quarantine issue is not good unless your test is within the 48 hour window. But again somebody should read the article or confirm from another source.

My advice to you is to see if you can get a same day test result the day before you fly so if true, you won't have to Quarantine.

HotRockIt
12-03-20, 22:31
...It's right across from "stoner's park" where all the locals hang and smoke joints, do coke, drink beer, and other stuff. Kind of a Bohemian type of crowd with people playing guitars, however neither Slapshot nor Blakman would fit in here, but I felt right at home, and blended right in as nobody knew I was a gringo until they heard me speaking Spanish.Ahhh the "stoner park". Oh how I miss stopping there during the day, buying some krippy from someone at the park and just smoking a "J", having a drink, and talking with the people. I usually stay in a Airbnb close to that area so I've spent a lot of time roaming day and night and all hours thru the centro streets, bars, parlors, and hole in the wall after hour spots LOL. My favorite area in Medellin! Heading back end of January, will definitely update the forum with my findings and changes. Really hoping this "clubs and bars closing until mid january" thing is just a rumor. Just asked two friends from Medellin a few mins ago if they heard anything about this and they said no. One of them works as a bartender in Parque Lleras. As of now they said clubs are open until midnight.

Combo
12-04-20, 00:23
From the article en El Espectador, it appears that the judge today answered the government's demand to clarify the ruling. The article said this new order would go into effect in 96 hours, which would mean next Monday. What I don't know is if the government will now institute this measure automatically or if there is more back and forth between the judge and the minister of health.

Any Colombian legal experts out there?

I find it hard to believe they are going to do this right before the Holidays. So many Colombians abroad will have to cancel trips to visit families in Colombia. No one is going to visit to spend 14 days in quarantine.

YippieKayay
12-04-20, 00:39
From the article en El Espectador, it appears that the judge today answered the government's demand to clarify the ruling. The article said this new order would go into effect in 96 hours, which would mean next Monday. What I don't know is if the government will now institute this measure automatically or if there is more back and forth between the judge and the minister of health.

Any Colombian legal experts out there?

I find it hard to believe they are going to do this right before the Holidays. So many Colombians abroad will have to cancel trips to visit families in Colombia. No one is going to visit to spend 14 days in quarantine.I'm no legal expert but the judge just laid down the law. He told the minister that until there is an effective vaccine they will need these controls in place. Honestly, why are people even bothering with Colombia anymore? Plenty of other destinations.

Combo
12-04-20, 01:01
I'm no legal expert but the judge just laid down the law. He told the minister that until there is an effective vaccine they will need these controls in place. Honestly, why are people even bothering with Colombia anymore? Plenty of other destinations.Because we already made flight / lodging arrangements and scheduled certain days off work?

Whatever, the judge gave a period of 96 hours for them to start doing this. So if you're arriving by this Sunday, it looks like you'll get in.

Combo
12-04-20, 01:10
BTW, how does one get the Covid app to enter Colombia? Do you just download it on your phone? Corona App or something like that?

Still hoping to enter the country this Saturday.

Surfer500
12-04-20, 01:11
I'm no legal expert but the judge just laid down the law. He told the minister that until there is an effective vaccine they will need these controls in place. Honestly, why are people even bothering with Colombia anymore? Plenty of other destinations.So can you elaborate on the plenty of other destinations for mongering at this time.

I know the DR and Mexico are open, but they don't compare in my book to Colombia, so where else is it almost like Pre-Covid at least that's what I noticed a few weeks ago compared to most other Countries in the world? Asia is basically closed, so where are these other destinations someone should consider besides Colombia with it literally being wide open right now.

YippieKayay
12-04-20, 01:31
BTW, how does one get the Covid app to enter Colombia? Do you just download it on your phone? Corona App or something like that?

Still hoping to enter the country this Saturday.https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf

Combo
12-04-20, 01:49
https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsfThanks. So we have to do this in addition to installing the app?

Knowledge
12-04-20, 01:50
The covid app is voluntary. The link attached by Brother Yippy is obligatory. It is an electronic health declaration. When you enter your flight and document details it will made available to Colombia immigration. Airlines will not let you board without presenting a confirmation email.


https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf

Knowledge
12-04-20, 01:51
You do not have to install the app.


Thanks. So we have to do this in addition to installing the app?

Knowledge
12-04-20, 02:12
I really hopes this clears the confusion. I encourage someone else to verify my summary translation: no test is required or contemplated by the official (Minister of Public Health) who is empowered by the President to impose testing. Everybody can calm down.

With respect to legal questions, as in most other democratic republics worldwide, there is a state of emergency in place in Colombia (currently extended until February 2021). The state of emergency gives the President power to impose policy by decree, as distinct from checking with legislators or judges. In plain terms it means the judge can say anything but it is up to the executive branch to accept or ignore it.


I'm no legal expert but the judge just laid down the law. He told the minister that until there is an effective vaccine they will need these controls in place. Honestly, why are people even bothering with Colombia anymore? Plenty of other destinations.

YippieKayay
12-04-20, 02:15
Thanks. So we have to do this in addition to installing the app?That is the app in web form. You can just use that on your phone.

Fun Luvr
12-04-20, 02:25
Thanks. So we have to do this in addition to installing the app?You don't need any app. You need to fill out the form at the link provided.

Mr Enternational
12-04-20, 03:32
BTW, how does one get the Covid app to enter Colombia? Do you just download it on your phone? Corona App or something like that?

Still hoping to enter the country this Saturday.Again that is 2 different things. You do not need the covid app. The link that YK provided has the immigration form that you have always filled out. It is electronic now instead of on paper. You submit that then receive an email confirming that you have submitted your immigration paperwork.

Mr Enternational
12-04-20, 03:39
Honestly, why are people even bothering with Colombia anymore? Plenty of other destinations.What are these plenty of other destinations?

ColombiaLover
12-04-20, 04:24
From the Medellin Guru today.

EDITOR NOTE on December 3: the court ratified its decision that a PCR test should be required from travelers entering Colombia according to El Tiempo and later the government responded that it will not comply with the ruling of the court.

On December 3: Government Responds – No PCR Test Required.

After the judge responded, the National Government in Colombia responded. According to El Colombiano, the Minister of Health, Fernando Ruiz Gómez, said that the Government is not in a position to comply with the ruling of the Eleventh Municipal Civil Court of Bogotá, which obliges the executive to demand the PCR test for people who enter Colombia on international flights.

President Iváand Duque also affirmed that it is impossible to comply with the court order, as it is contrary to the scientific decision supported and sustained, and that it also obeys evolutionary criteria of the behavior of the pandemic.

Minister Ruiz explained that while the legal process is being carried out before the 11th Court of Bogotá, travelers who arrive in Colombia will not have to present a PCR test or undergo a 14-day quarantine upon entering the country.

Knowledge
12-04-20, 05:39
Pro tip: don't rely on Medellin guru for information. This is one time they got it right but theory record is not brilliant.


From the Medellin Guru today.

EDITOR NOTE on December 3: the court ratified its decision that a PCR test should be required from travelers entering Colombia according to El Tiempo and later the government responded that it will not comply with the ruling of the court.

On December 3: Government Responds No PCR Test Required.

After the judge responded, the National Government in Colombia responded. According to El Colombiano, the Minister of Health, Fernando Ruiz Gmez, said that the Government is not in a position to comply with the ruling of the Eleventh Municipal Civil Court of Bogot, which obliges the executive to demand the PCR test for people who enter Colombia on international flights.

President Ivand Duque also affirmed that it is impossible to comply with the court order, as it is contrary to the scientific decision supported and sustained, and that it also obeys evolutionary criteria of the behavior of the pandemic..

JjBee62
12-04-20, 05:46
From the Medellin Guru today.

EDITOR NOTE on December 3: the court ratified its decision that a PCR test should be required from travelers entering Colombia according to El Tiempo and later the government responded that it will not comply with the ruling of the court.

On December 3: Government Responds No PCR Test Required.

After the judge responded, the National Government in Colombia responded. According to El Colombiano, the Minister of Health, Fernando Ruiz Gmez, said that the Government is not in a position to comply with the ruling of the Eleventh Municipal Civil Court of Bogot, which obliges the executive to demand the PCR test for people who enter Colombia on international flights.

President Ivand Duque also affirmed that it is impossible to comply with the court order, as it is contrary to the scientific decision supported and sustained, and that it also obeys evolutionary criteria of the behavior of the pandemic.

Minister Ruiz explained that while the legal process is being carried out before the 11th Court of Bogot, travelers who arrive in Colombia will not have to present a PCR test or undergo a 14-day quarantine upon entering the country.I don't expect anything drastic out of the Colombian government until after the new year. All of December is too big of a deal in Colombia. Any big lockdown would set the cities on fire.

Blakman
12-04-20, 07:48
Normally LA 70 is busy and loud all the way til 3 am in the morning. Well tonight the streets was quiet by 12 am so definitely new regulations is affecting the nightlife of La 70. Well at least after midnight Dec 4.

MaddTraveler
12-04-20, 12:23
What's a couple good priced and guest friendly hotels in Laureles fellas? Por favor.

Combo
12-04-20, 13:43
Thank you for providing this. I figured the government wasn't going to do this right before the holidays with so many Colombians abroad visiting their families. People are pissed enough already.

I wouldn't be surprised if though, if after the Holidays, they re-institute the requirements.


From the Medellin Guru today.

EDITOR NOTE on December 3: the court ratified its decision that a PCR test should be required from travelers entering Colombia according to El Tiempo and later the government responded that it will not comply with the ruling of the court.

On December 3: Government Responds No PCR Test Required.

After the judge responded, the National Government in Colombia responded. According to El Colombiano, the Minister of Health, Fernando Ruiz Gmez, said that the Government is not in a position to comply with the ruling of the Eleventh Municipal Civil Court of Bogot, which obliges the executive to demand the PCR test for people who enter Colombia on international flights.

President Ivand Duque also affirmed that it is impossible to comply with the court order, as it is contrary to the scientific decision supported and sustained, and that it also obeys evolutionary criteria of the behavior of the pandemic.

Minister Ruiz explained that while the legal process is being carried out before the 11th Court of Bogot, travelers who arrive in Colombia will not have to present a PCR test or undergo a 14-day quarantine upon entering the country.

Chicafan
12-04-20, 16:56
I just read an article today that say's that testing will be required for entry within 96 hours, and I'm not completely clear on this, but if the test is more than 48 hours old and negative there will be a quarantine requirement. At least that is what I read and someone else with better Spanish skills perhaps can confirm what I read it's in the Salud section of Notiicias of El Espectador published today December 3.

If true, the quarantine issue is not good unless your test is within the 48 hour window. But again somebody should read the article or confirm from another source.

My advice to you is to see if you can get a same day test result the day before you fly so if true, you won't have to Quarantine.I was under the impression 96 hours, or four days. Does anyone recall what the time frame was that Colombia was honoring? I did not distinguish if the test had to be administered four days before arrival or the negative test result received no more than four days before arrival. TIA.

If the government's position holds and no test required continues it's moot. I am going to look for a same day PCR that I can take Thursday the day before my flight in case the government caves next week. But I don't see how they can because on short notice they know they would be turning all travelers away. But even if they implement the test requirement again most people, especially Colombians returning for the holiday, are not going to be able to find or receive the test. They still are not that easy to come by, I don't believe. Some areas outside the larger cities only offer through private testing firms that seem to locate in an area one day a week then move on. I hope the government continues its position.

Surfer500
12-04-20, 17:16
I was under the impression 96 hours, or four days. Does anyone recall what the time frame was that Colombia was honoring? I did not distinguish if the test had to be administered four days before arrival or the negative test result received no more than four days before arrival. TIA.

If the government's position holds and no test required continues it's moot. I am going to look for a same day PCR that I can take Thursday the day before my flight in case the government caves next week. But I don't see how they can because on short notice they know they would be turning all travelers away. But even if they implement the test requirement again most people, especially Colombians returning for the holiday, are not going to be able to find or receive the test. They still are not that easy to come by, I don't believe. Some areas outside the larger cities only offer through private testing firms that seem to locate in an area one day a week then move on. I hope the government continues its position.Case in point how screwed up it is, when I came down about a month ago I got tested one day prior to my flight, and then they dropped the testing requirement the next day, the same day as my flight. Things change like the direction of the wind with COVID, and I don't know how long your coming down for, or your budget, but easily within a few days time they could change their minds on things, albeit I agree with all of your reasons as to why they shouldn't.

MarquisdeSade1
12-04-20, 18:40
From the Medellin Guru today.

EDITOR NOTE on December 3: the court ratified its decision that a PCR test should be required from travelers entering Colombia according to El Tiempo and later the government responded that it will not comply with the ruling of the court.

On December 3: Government Responds No PCR Test Required.

After the judge responded, the National Government in Colombia responded. According to El Colombiano, the Minister of Health, Fernando Ruiz Gmez, said that the Government is not in a position to comply with the ruling of the Eleventh Municipal Civil Court of Bogot, which obliges the executive to demand the PCR test for people who enter Colombia on international flights.

President Ivand Duque also affirmed that it is impossible to comply with the court order, as it is contrary to the scientific decision supported and sustained, and that it also obeys evolutionary criteria of the behavior of the pandemic.

Minister Ruiz explained that while the legal process is being carried out before the 11th Court of Bogot, travelers who arrive in Colombia will not have to present a PCR test or undergo a 14-day quarantine upon entering the country.https://americasquarterly.org/article/back-to-the-1960s-education-may-be-latin-americas-most-lasting-scar-from-covid-19/

Knowledge
12-04-20, 18:44
I am very disappointed by the latest updates I am watching on Caracol's midday news broadcast. Until now Colombia had avoided the politicization of the pandemic. Now unfortunately there is a purely political power struggle underway between the judiciary and the executive branches. Of most interest to us, no testing is required or expected to be required until 2021 earliest.

The magistrate who issued the order is due to leave for Christmas vacation along with his colleagues so his order will stand and continue to be denied by Minister of Health Ruiz and President Duque. The pompous bureaucratic language and political posturing of all parties is not helpful but it is Colombian culture. The test requirement would prevent many Colombians visiting the country diring the holidays for financial and practical reasons. The judge has no power to enforce his order but he can order officials jailed. He also is now in position to blame Duqie for any deterioration in the health situation. It's a bit of a mess but you guys who aren't here can relax and start your trips.

Balboa
12-04-20, 19:18
Thanks. So we have to do this in addition to installing the app?Either go to the website or download the App.

They are the same thing, as long as you get the confirmation email to show to the airline agent as well as the immigration officer in Colombia.

Easy peazy!

JjBee62
12-04-20, 21:47
What's a couple good priced and guest friendly hotels in Laureles fellas? Por favor.Hotel Dorado La 70, but you have to book the double room if you don't want to pay a guest fee.

San Peter Apartments. You can find listings on Booking dot com and AirBnB.

JjBee62
12-04-20, 21:49
Case in point how screwed up it is, when I came down about a month ago I got tested one day prior to my flight, and then they dropped the testing requirement the next day, the same day as my flight. Things change like the direction of the wind with COVID, and I don't know how long your coming down for, or your budget, but easily within a few days time they could change their minds on things, albeit I agree with all of your reasons as to why they shouldn't.If they reinstate a testing requirement they will do what they did before, announce a date when the mandate takes effect.

The Tall Man
12-04-20, 21:52
I got in touch with escort just happen to work 3 minutes from san peters. I arrive at the building and its okay. She was very similar to the pic. Tall, proportionate body, nice tits, about 20. Sh kinda protected her beautiful breast. That was a turn off. She ask for money first which was expect. Price 140 k. She was very sensuous, but very cautious with her body which took awhile to fuck her the way I wanted. The head job was good and she did let me deepthroat her some. She was comfortable sucking. The ride was sensuous and slow. 50 50 as far as enjoyment. Doggy was 75 25 as enjoyment. Took her awhile before she let me go full throttle. Missionary, looking at her face, body, tits was great. And I found myself cumming. I relaxed a little and then requested to leave. About 45 minutes. I enjoyed it, she's pretty. But I wouldn't give her my business again.Nice find but to newbies coming to Colombia and Medellin in particular once your living here for some time and know the game and have some patience and put in some time to develop connections this type of woman, and I do believe that she is hermosa, is dime a dozen.

Just had an over night'er with a paisa chica who could be this girls better looking younger sister. I found her in a bar in centro last night, no discussion about pricing she just did not feel like sitting in a bar and having to drink beer after beer with drunk old Colombian men in order to collect her 20 mil plus a 1 or 2 mil ficha for every drink she has, so off we went (no exit fee) and brought her back to my apartment. What a sweet paisa and she is straight from the ghetto barrio, go figure.

Tall at 170 cm, just turned 19, slender and a stripper lean and mean body. Cuddled all night in each others arms and showered together this morning then sex off the charts with the passion and energy, just another incredible experience that I don't deserve but am finding these experiences a few times each week.

Why? Because I have put in the time and effort and get out and about and then allow things to appear. I treat the women with respect and kindness that most have not experienced in their lives and I hand it out in wheel barrows full. Wow how I am compensated for it.

So I drove her to her home in the ghetto barrio a few hours ago, gave her 80 mil, YES 80 mil and she did not look at it nor count it just a smile and thank you and a goodbye kiss. She sent me a watssapp that simply says "Te Amo Amor".

Thank god it is Friday and happy weekend to all.

The Tall Man.

FlowState985
12-04-20, 22:22
What's a couple good priced and guest friendly hotels in Laureles fellas? Por favor.San Peters is a good place to start if you are not sure. It right at La 70. Lots of traffic thou, but chica friendly. You can probably find a few on Airbnb listing and ask the owner to be sure.

Zeos1
12-04-20, 22:44
What's a couple good priced and guest friendly hotels in Laureles fellas? Por favor.Guest friendly is a moving target with Covid and groups campaigning against sex tourism. The only way you will know is to ask when you book. My guess is that none will admit to being guest friendly. I've staying in Laureles several times and have not found a guest friendly hotel.

Surfer500
12-05-20, 02:42
If they reinstate a testing requirement they will do what they did before, announce a date when the mandate takes effect.Of course, but the issue is how short the notice might be which most probably won't be much. It's like when they announced the closing of their airspace back in March and gave less than a weeks notice stranding lots of people who had to wait for humanitarian flights to get out. However that was much more drastic then having a testing requirement with the rub being if there is a quarantine. I had a roundtrip ticket from MDE to LAX leaving on March 15 which I took, and a return flight from LAX to MDE on March 19 which I didn't take, and the last commercial flights into the Country ended on March 20.

Regardless, I don't think there will be any changes until after the new year if at all, as things have not spiked or surged again just yet, but if they were to, and the ICU capacity appeared in jeopardy, they might act very quickly giving a notice period of no longer than say the testing window for entry into the Country.

But who the hell knows, what I do know is that when we were both in Medellin at the same time three weeks ago, it was perfect timing in that most venues were open, and you could freely navigate not hindered by Pico and Cedula, and only being allowed out at certain times.

In Southern California where I'm at, it's getting really bad, yet the proposed new lockdowns aren't as stringent as back in the Spring. Hopefully by the Spring I will have been vaccinated and will return and be like a rabid dog in El Centro banging everything is Site.

In the meantime I have and do go to Tijuana which is two hours away, however with the exception of the food, is a shithole compared to Medellin.

I also have a Mexican woman I hook up with here nearby once a week here, so I'm not imprisoned like so many other board members.

Surfer500
12-05-20, 02:58
I have put in the time and effort and get out and about and then allow things to appear. I treat the women with respect and kindness that most have not experienced in their lives and I hand it out in wheel barrows full. Wow how I am compensated for it.

So I drove her to her home in the ghetto barrio a few hours ago, gave her 80 mil, YES 80 mil and she did not look at it nor count it just a smile and thank you and a goodbye kiss. She sent me a watssapp that simply says "Te Amo Amor"

The Tall Man.I can totally relate to this, and have been there, and experienced this just 3 weeks ago.

It's basically like being on another planet how these women compensate you when you treat them like a Princess, and the money becomes secondary for them, because they have never been treated so nicely.

I should of never returned three weeks ago, I'm thinking now of booking my return flight ASAP.

Quit rubbing it in TallMan!

Ewe52
12-05-20, 03:00
Guest friendly is a moving target with Covid and groups campaigning against sex tourism. The only way you will know is to ask when you book. My guess is that none will admit to being guest friendly. I've staying in Laureles several times and have not found a guest friendly hotel.It's a crap shoot for sure, It sounds selfish of me to say this but, if you find one I wouldn't be so keen on sharing. They will quickly become un-guest friendly if too many hobbyists draws the ire of the locals.

MaddTraveler
12-05-20, 03:09
San Peters is a good place to start if you are not sure. It right at La 70. Lots of traffic thou, but chica friendly. You can probably find a few on Airbnb listing and ask the owner to be sure.How's hotel 47 street compare to San peters and dorado when it comes to quality. I'll be there for 15. Semi low budget but don't want very poor qual.

FlowState985
12-05-20, 03:41
well spent a few 4 hours yesterday in and all around centro and yes it was raining but I must say that the selection of chicas was about the worst that I have seen in years, I just hope that this was an off day.

Can anyone else share their experience on the selection and quality in centro.I was there the same day you were. It rain really heavy and consistent. I went to New Life first, and then took a stroll to central and it rained heavily. I took coverage in the Botero Museum and checking out all the arts.

Afterward, I stroll around the Veracruz area and around the church, but it was bad. My friend told me, which makes a lot of sense is, it's always good until it rain, then only chicas that badly need the money would be there standing in the rain.

Chicafan
12-05-20, 04:02
Hotel Dorado La 70, but you have to book the double room if you don't want to pay a guest fee.

San Peter Apartments. You can find listings on Booking dot com and AirBnB.I like Hotel Dorado, great roof top bar although usually not crowded which makes it less stressful with a girl. Great views, no doubt. Views from both side's balconies are good depending what side of the city you are interested in but I like the La 70 balconies myself.

Chicafan
12-05-20, 04:04
If they reinstate a testing requirement they will do what they did before, announce a date when the mandate takes effect.Right, and so with that in mind for someone arriving Saturday the 12th, if they haven't reinstated the requirement by close of business Tuesday it's unlikely they would reinstate on Wednesday-Friday for that weekend's arrivals as few would have the opportunity to make it to a testing site and would arrive unable to enter. That would be a big problem and as you suggest they recognize that. I only have Monday and Wednesday as an option for the test and so if by Wednesday morning the coast is still clear I am going to forego a preemptive PCR.

Blakman
12-05-20, 09:54
If you have been in Colombia numerous years its time to brag about going into poblado or laureles and picking up a non pro and having her for a girlfriend. The finest Colombians most likely arent selling their puta. So if you have a car, a roof over your head, you speak spanish. This should be easy to achieve every day all day. So when you step your game up when you are conquering non pros outside of centro. You have grown up into a big champion LOL.


Nice find but to newbies coming to Colombia and Medellin in particular once your living here for some time and know the game and have some patience and put in some time to develop connections this type of woman, and I do believe that she is hermosa, is dime a dozen.

Just had an over night'er with a paisa chica who could be this girls better looking younger sister. I found her in a bar in centro last night, no discussion about pricing she just did not feel like sitting in a bar and having to drink beer after beer with drunk old Colombian men in order to collect her 20 mil plus a 1 or 2 mil ficha for every drink she has, so off we went (no exit fee) and brought her back to my apartment. What a sweet paisa and she is straight from the ghetto barrio, go figure.

Tall at 170 cm, just turned 19, slender and a stripper lean and mean body. Cuddled all night in each others arms and showered together this morning then sex off the charts with the passion and energy, just another incredible experience that I don't deserve but am finding these experiences a few times each week.

Why? Because I have put in the time and effort and get out and about and then allow things to appear. I treat the women with respect and kindness that most have not experienced in their lives and I hand it out in wheel barrows full. Wow how I am compensated for it.

So I drove her to her home in the ghetto barrio a few hours ago, gave her 80 mil, YES 80 mil and she did not look at it nor count it just a smile and thank you and a goodbye kiss. She sent me a watssapp that simply says "Te Amo Amor".

Thank god it is Friday and happy weekend to all.

The Tall Man..

Blakman
12-05-20, 10:31
I had 100 mil 3 HR 2 leche cancelled. I was horny so didn't feel like a casa or mileroticos. So doubled mask up. Off to Centro. I smoked a little crippy before going. Advantage of San Peters. I could not smoke in my other apartment. Note I only smoke before sex. Anyways I hit 53rd, veracruz area. See a chocolate. Attractive but a little thicker than I would like. Then I see a lightskin stallion. Strong body, unique walk, mature. I choose her. Say 20 k off to priemiere plaza. Soon as we get in the building she grabs my hand and the girlfriend experience begins. She behaves like she's been looking for intimacy forever. She's kissing me everywhere. Balls, lips, neck, chest. I get caught up and I am am equal participant. This aint suppose yo happen I'm cemtro. Damn we doing 69 every position you can name. I nut real big in the condom. She grabs my dick and continues sucking the condom dick. Oh my, I am shaking. I want more she wants more. She wants me pay more. I only want to pay 20 k more. She wants 50 k. I say no 20 k. She's upset. Finally I realize 1 HR went by. They are knocking on the door. I give her 50 k. I am walking with her. I want to go again. Get her to come to my aparment. I feel like a stalker. She begrudgingly gives me her number. Hints ok I have to work now LOL. Then I go meet a member. I do not know if it was the girl or crippy but that was a perfect session.

Knowledge
12-05-20, 12:12
Final stage complete.


I had 100 mil 3 HR 2 leche cancelled. I was horny so didn't feel like a casa or mileroticos. So doubled mask up. Off to Centro. I smoked a little crippy before going. Advantage of San Peters. I could not smoke in my other apartment. Note I only smoke before sex. Anyways I hit 53rd, veracruz area. See a chocolate. Attractive but a little thicker than I would like. Then I see a lightskin stallion. Strong body, unique walk, mature. I choose her. Say 20 k off to priemiere plaza. Soon as we get in the building she grabs my hand and the girlfriend experience begins. She behaves like she's been looking for intimacy forever. She's kissing me everywhere. Balls, lips, neck, chest. I get caught up and I am am equal participant. This aint suppose yo happen I'm cemtro. Damn we doing 69 every position you can name. I nut real big in the condom. She grabs my dick and continues sucking the condom dick. Oh my, I am shaking. I want more she wants more. She wants me pay more. I only want to pay 20 k more. She wants 50 k. I say no 20 k. She's upset. Finally I realize 1 HR went by. They are knocking on the door. I give her 50 k. I am walking with her. I want to go again. Get her to come to my aparment. I feel like a stalker. She begrudgingly gives me her number. Hints ok I have to work now LOL. Then I go meet a member. I do not know if it was the girl or crippy but that was a perfect session.

JjBee62
12-05-20, 14:24
I had 100 mil 3 HR 2 leche cancelled. I was horny so didn't feel like a casa or mileroticos. So doubled mask up. Off to Centro. I smoked a little crippy before going. Advantage of San Peters. I could not smoke in my other apartment. Note I only smoke before sex. Anyways I hit 53rd, veracruz area. See a chocolate. Attractive but a little thicker than I would like. Then I see a lightskin stallion. Strong body, unique walk, mature. I choose her. Say 20 k off to priemiere plaza. Soon as we get in the building she grabs my hand and the girlfriend experience begins. She behaves like she's been looking for intimacy forever. She's kissing me everywhere. Balls, lips, neck, chest. I get caught up and I am am equal participant. This aint suppose yo happen I'm cemtro. Damn we doing 69 every position you can name. I nut real big in the condom. She grabs my dick and continues sucking the condom dick. Oh my, I am shaking. I want more she wants more. She wants me pay more. I only want to pay 20 k more. She wants 50 k. I say no 20 k. She's upset. Finally I realize 1 HR went by. They are knocking on the door. I give her 50 k. I am walking with her. I want to go again. Get her to come to my aparment. I feel like a stalker. She begrudgingly gives me her number. Hints ok I have to work now LOL. Then I go meet a member. I do not know if it was the girl or crippy but that was a perfect session.You do realize that a stallion is a male horse that still has his balls attached? Next time go for a mare, or at least a gelding. That way the balls aren't bouncing off your forehead.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. Sounds like you had a fun time. You're going to be prowling the streets full time soon.

Chicafan
12-05-20, 15:11
The judge's order was within 48 (not 96 as before) hours of travel and with a quarantine of 14 days. But the health minister sent it back for more clarification. My guess is they wait til after Christmas to reinstate any measures.Ah, thanks for the information. But would that be feasible? I am told the lab results take three days on average. I was told sometimes turnaround is 48 hours but no guarantee. If that were true many or most people would arrive without results. So they would let people arrive and process in pending results? Would they hold a person at the airport pending the result or require 14 day quarantine if your "within 48 hour" result came back negative? Anyway, after Christmas sounds a lot better than next week. I'm likely having the test Wednesday but told I won't receive my results until Saturday or Sunday. It's a free test and results sent via email so even if not required for entry, it's still good to have.

The Tall Man
12-05-20, 15:32
If you have been in Colombia numerous years its time to brag about going into poblado or laureles and picking up a non pro and having her for a girlfriend. The finest Colombians most likely arent selling their puta. So if you have a car, a roof over your head, you speak spanish. This should be easy to achieve every day all day. So when you step your game up when you are conquering non pros outside of centro. You have grown up into a big champion LOL..Well at least I am not born black or have a small mans issue or a small dick, hehehehehe oh my now I need to deal with a fellow black dude who is a monger and with a jealous small mans syndrome. This is the reason why I seldom post here anymore because of jerks like you. I don't need any help stepping up my game you idiot.

And the only honest woman is a prostitute, they all sell or have sold their pussy even the "finest Colombians".

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

Surfer500
12-05-20, 16:56
Ah, thanks for the information. But would that be feasible? I am told the lab results take three days on average. I was told sometimes turnaround is 48 hours but no guarantee. If that were true many or most people would arrive without results. So they would let people arrive and process in pending results? Would they hold a person at the airport pending the result or require 14 day quarantine if your "within 48 hour" result came back negative? Anyway, after Christmas sounds a lot better than next week. I'm likely having the test Wednesday but told I won't receive my results until Saturday or Sunday. It's a free test and results sent via email so even if not required for entry, it's still good to have.I don't know where you live, but if you pay for expedited test results, you should be able to get results in 24 hours or less, but it won't be free. Albeit expensive, I paid $ 175 for same day results but I'm in Southern California.

Balboa
12-05-20, 17:17
If you have been in Colombia numerous years its time to brag about going into poblado or laureles and picking up a non pro and having her for a girlfriend. The finest Colombians most likely arent selling their puta. So if you have a car, a roof over your head, you speak spanish. This should be easy to achieve every day all day. So when you step your game up when you are conquering non pros outside of centro. You have grown up into a big champion LOL.

.Be careful what you wish for, Lol.

With all the above tools in your chest as you describe above, it's really not that difficult to score a non pro girlfriend, especially if you're halfway in shape and have people skills.

All that girl friend stuff comes with drama and jealousies, etc, however.

The real trick is being able to intertwine both worlds, if that's what you want, obviously.

The GF and the variety on the side, and sometimes it can get complicated and tricky.

Now if you just want to have a GF, be faithful, fall in love, etc, that's easy.

That's great.

However, I've found my life to be easier and less complicated with amiguitas and known GFE type known pros, as well as exploring for new ones.

Hats off to Tall Man for living the good life. ✌️

Surfer500
12-05-20, 17:50
If you have been in Colombia numerous years its time to brag about going into poblado or laureles and picking up a non pro and having her for a girlfriend. The finest Colombians most likely arent selling their puta. So if you have a car, a roof over your head, you speak spanish. This should be easy to achieve every day all day. So when you step your game up when you are conquering non pros outside of centro. You have grown up into a big champion LOL..Your totally missing what Tallman, and others, including myself have experienced with the "barrio girls", those being from the Strata level 1, versus the Strata level 6 "Poblado girls".

I can tell you from experience that a 20 year old non-pro Pobaldo girl is going to have very little to to do with a 60 year old gringo. Where as a 20 year barrio girl will have very little apprehension about going with a 60 year old gringo. I have an account with Colombian Cupid, and can tell you that there are very few, if any of the women on that Site who are interested in gringo's twice to three times there age. So why would anybody waste there time looking for a non-pro 1/2 to 1/3 their age in Poblado. Now if a gringo was looking for someone close to their own age, or say 10 years younger, he could do quite well, but who wants to be with someone close to their own age.

And as far as the finest Colombians perhaps being from Pobaldo versus the barrios, your way out on a limb on that one. Once their clothes and make-up are off, that's where the differences end and begin.

Would you rather be with someone accustomed to being with gringos, versus someone who never has. Imagine being with someone who has never been treated like a Princess, and I'm not talking about say just for talk Slapshot's conquests, who are used to being wined and dined by gringo's, and expecting to be paid handsomely, yet someone like a barrio girl who has no experience with this, and have never even been to Pobaldo.

I experienced this last month with a barrio girl, and will never forget what I experienced which I posted about. And I would have nothing to do with any of Slapshot's conquests, not that there is anything wrong with them at all, and they may be barrio girls as well, but they are very polished, versus something totally raw, or I should say un-varnished by money and attire.

I don't know if any of this making any sense to you at all, and I know others know exactly what I'm talking about here. Regardless, this is the heart of the matter plain and simple, and your not in a position to experience this, and if you were, you would be able to relate to this versus condoning it.

Surfer500
12-05-20, 18:10
I had 100 mil 3 HR 2 leche cancelled. I was horny so didn't feel like a casa or mileroticos. So doubled mask up. Off to Centro. I smoked a little crippy before going. Advantage of San Peters. I could not smoke in my other apartment. Note I only smoke before sex. Anyways I hit 53rd, veracruz area. See a chocolate. Attractive but a little thicker than I would like. Then I see a lightskin stallion. Strong body, unique walk, mature. I choose her. Say 20 k off to priemiere plaza. Soon as we get in the building she grabs my hand and the girlfriend experience begins. She behaves like she's been looking for intimacy forever. She's kissing me everywhere. Balls, lips, neck, chest. I get caught up and I am am equal participant. This aint suppose yo happen I'm cemtro. Damn we doing 69 every position you can name. I nut real big in the condom. She grabs my dick and continues sucking the condom dick. Oh my, I am shaking. I want more she wants more. She wants me pay more. I only want to pay 20 k more. She wants 50 k. I say no 20 k. She's upset. Finally I realize 1 HR went by. They are knocking on the door. I give her 50 k. I am walking with her. I want to go again. Get her to come to my aparment. I feel like a stalker. She begrudgingly gives me her number. Hints ok I have to work now LOL. Then I go meet a member. I do not know if it was the girl or crippy but that was a perfect session.I guess I'm a little confused about your negotiation, or lack of one. It was 20 K with no discussion of anything beforehand. And a knock at the door after an hour at Premier Plaza? That sounds odd as well. At what isn't supposed to happen in El Centro? So you had an experience you weren't expecting sexually? So ignoring that you got played at the end of the session, what shocked you about the experience? Again, was it that you couldn't have a great sexual experience in El Centro?

Open your eyes Grasshopper, sounds like you just got a taste of what can be had there, however you need to refine your negotiating skills a bit beforehand.

Nice report!

Blakman
12-05-20, 19:15
You know I still have trouble with the half hour, hour payment. I think I confuse the girls and pay less LOL. I have to keep a running time. It might be getting easier but I prefer my 3 HR 2 leche 100 mil which I have one cancelled then another schedule. If it gets cancelled guess I am off to centro LOL.


You do realize that a stallion is a male horse that still has his balls attached? Next time go for a mare, or at least a gelding. That way the balls aren't bouncing off your forehead.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. Sounds like you had a fun time. You're going to be prowling the streets full time soon..

Blakman
12-05-20, 19:20
Call a thick girl a stallion without balls. LOL. No harm done jjbee. My brains are with daughters at Cal universities


You do realize that a stallion is a male horse that still has his balls attached? Next time go for a mare, or at least a gelding. That way the balls aren't bouncing off your forehead.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. Sounds like you had a fun time. You're going to be prowling the streets full time soon..

SlapShot10
12-05-20, 19:42
I had 100 mil 3 HR 2 leche cancelled. I was horny so didn't feel like a casa or mileroticos. So doubled mask up. Off to Centro. I smoked a little crippy before going. Advantage of San Peters. I could not smoke in my other apartment. Note I only smoke before sex. Anyways I hit 53rd, veracruz area. See a chocolate. Attractive but a little thicker than I would like. Then I see a lightskin stallion. Strong body, unique walk, mature. I choose her. Say 20 k off to priemiere plaza. Soon as we get in the building she grabs my hand and the girlfriend experience begins. She behaves like she's been looking for intimacy forever. She's kissing me everywhere. Balls, lips, neck, chest. I get caught up and I am am equal participant. This aint suppose yo happen I'm cemtro. Damn we doing 69 every position you can name. I nut real big in the condom. She grabs my dick and continues sucking the condom dick. Oh my, I am shaking. I want more she wants more. She wants me pay more. I only want to pay 20 k more. She wants 50 k. I say no 20 k. She's upset. Finally I realize 1 HR went by. They are knocking on the door. I give her 50 k. I am walking with her. I want to go again. Get her to come to my aparment. I feel like a stalker. She begrudgingly gives me her number. Hints ok I have to work now LOL. Then I go meet a member. I do not know if it was the girl or crippy but that was a perfect session.


Final stage complete.


You do realize that a stallion is a male horse that still has his balls attached? Next time go for a mare, or at least a gelding. That way the balls aren't bouncing off your forehead.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. Sounds like you had a fun time. You're going to be prowling the streets full time soon.The final stage of becoming a centro rat is paying 150% above asking price?

I was prepping myself for a very interesting ending to this story, given the "stallion" and "unique walk" comments. Oh well.

Buckman, I'd imagine the 100 k 3 HR 2 leche cancellation was because she found some one for 150 k 1 leche or sold some videos for 50 k. Either way, after your romp in Centro, I know you've got the the abacus out, and you're calculating... 50 k + roundtrip taxi + lunch vs 150 k + your own bed + more time + porno + music + free popcorn + food you've already purchased. If you're not thinking that, then I think Knowledge is right, you've reached the final stage. Master Splinter.

2 hours until the ol' lady's bus departs, then I'm going to revert back to being a bad boy for a few days. With the clock ticking on my departure, there's no time to waste. Who knows what happens before the end of the year or into January. With all this testing talk, it's making me want to buy a flight back to MDE on New Year's Eve, arriving Jan 1. Maybe I could avoid any potential changes to the current travel situation.

Knowledge
12-05-20, 20:15
Come on back, it's quite nice here now that the rain is gone.


I can totally relate to this, and have been there, and experienced this just 3 weeks ago.

It's basically like being on another planet how these women compensate you when you treat them like a Princess, and the money becomes secondary for them, because they have never been treated so nicely.

I should of never returned three weeks ago, I'm thinking now of booking my return flight ASAP.

Quit rubbing it in TallMan!

Knowledge
12-05-20, 20:19
Spoken like a true Centro rat.


You know I still have trouble with the half hour, hour payment. I think I confuse the girls and pay less LOL. I have to keep a running time. It might be getting easier but I prefer my 3 HR 2 leche 100 mil which I have one cancelled then another schedule. If it gets cancelled guess I am off to centro LOL..

MiamiBoy1
12-05-20, 20:28
Which of the two works best for you guys and why?

Blakman
12-05-20, 21:21
Way over my head LOL


The final stage of becoming a centro rat is paying 150% above asking price?

I was prepping myself for a very interesting ending to this story, given the "stallion" and "unique walk" comments. Oh well.

Buckman, I'd imagine the 100 k 3 HR 2 leche cancellation was because she found some one for 150 k 1 leche or sold some videos for 50 k. Either way, after your romp in Centro, I know you've got the the abacus out, and you're calculating... 50 k + roundtrip taxi + lunch vs 150 k + your own bed + more time + porno + music + free popcorn + food you've already purchased. If you're not thinking that, then I think Knowledge is right, you've reached the final stage. Master Splinter.

2 hours until the ol' lady's bus departs, then I'm going to revert back to being a bad boy for a few days. With the clock ticking on my departure, there's no time to waste. Who knows what happens before the end of the year or into January. With all this testing talk, it's making me want to buy a flight back to MDE on New Year's Eve, arriving Jan 1. Maybe I could avoid any potential changes to the current travel situation..

Surfer500
12-05-20, 21:39
Final stage complete.Not quite, but he's getting closer day by day.

A trophy will be his when he goes with a sacalero or a deaf mute.

JjBee62
12-05-20, 22:07
Which of the two works best for you guys and why?Here's my biased view. Although I've checked out SA and contacted a few girls, I've never pulled from there.

Setup. Points go to SA. Once your account is setup and paid, you just start sending messages. With Facebook you must spend the time finding girls.

Cost. Facebook. With SA you've got the $70 monthly fee, while Facebook is free.

Privacy. SA. There's always a possibility of being discovered on Facebook.

Selection. Definitely Facebook. There are many thousands of options.

Quality of girls. This is probably a toss up. I've heard claims of a different level of girls on SA, but I didn't see it. Facebook has such a wide variety, you can find almost anything.

Depth of knowledge. Facebook without a doubt. On SA you're looking at a resume. On Facebook you're seeing birthday parties and family and friends. You're seeing opinions and attitudes instead of just seeing what the girl wants you to see.

Ease of setting up dates. Facebook again. With SA there's a perception of setting up a date. Facebook is mostly straightforward. "Hi. I want to see you." Boom. You're done.

Price per girl. Facebook, mostly. Some guys talk of free dates and free sex from SA, but more often higher prices are quoted on SA.

Bonus round. Facebook often gives you the chance to check out s girl's other friends. This is useful for finding girls who aren't jaded by the gringo scene. It also gives insight when looking for a threesome.

Once you've set yourself up on Facebook your options keep growing.

Njoean197
12-05-20, 22:47
Which of the two works best for you guys and why?I was just in Medellin and I had SA from a previous trip to CDMX. Its so fucking stupidly easy to find gorgeous women in Medellin, there is absolutely no need for SA. Messaging girls back and forth can get really time consuming and its just not necessary. Almost any girl you pull in Medellin is going to offer you excellent G. F. E. Service. Just walk through Parque Lleras and there will be many women in the high 7 to 8 range offering all night for 300 k with no negotiating at all. That was my experience. I was in Gusto's on a Thursday night and it was packed with talent. I got swindled into a 3-some for several hours at 600 k total with two gorgeous latinas in their early 20's. I had a few contacts from a previous trip and made new contacts in Parque Lleras and I didn't have time to chance a girl flaking on me from SA. I was only in town for 4 days. In my experience the girls in Parque Lleras and the girls exchanging their numbers with me on SA were about the same in looks. If your looking for something really special and a true multiple-day G. F. E. Experience, then maybe SA is worth it. I don't have FB and I can't comment on that experience, but my experience just walking around Parque Lleras Thursday through Saturday is SA is truly not necessary. I found my biggest problem was that I did not play hardball and ended my hunts too quickly. Again the girls were really cool and beautiful, "especially compared to working girls of the USA ", so its hard to extend your nights when the girls are really making it easy for you to take them back at very cheap prices. My biggest complaint of Medellin is that is just too easy, Parque Lleras is point and click for 200 k and from reading the forum, its even cheaper in other areas of Medellin. Personally I like not having a plan and just rolling into whatever trouble or treasure I may find, that's something I can't put a price on. Again, when I return I am going to make time to explore more areas of Medellin and eventually other cities.

Zorro
12-06-20, 00:36
Facebook has been good and easy to conversate with the girls. I had plenty of luck with FB. You also want to try tinder there are some girls that you can pick up from there.


Which of the two works best for you guys and why?

Lefeu
12-06-20, 01:45
Not quite, but he's getting closer day by day.

A trophy will be his when he goes with a sacalero or a deaf mute.Haha a deaf mute, I found one in Bangkok, around Nana plaza. Quite an experience. I thoroughly enjoyed my session.

Surfer500
12-06-20, 02:24
Haha a deaf mute, I found one in Bangkok, around Nana plaza. Quite an experience. I thoroughly enjoyed my session.Most guys wouldn't get near one with a ten foot pole, and honestly, they don't know what they are missing out on, except the two of us, and perhaps a few others not willing to come out of the closet on this. I did one a few times in El Centro who is rarely out working, and although she can't speak or hear, she could definitely moan. And what a performer to boot!

I know others are reading this and are probably shaking their heads, but when you think about it, not being able to speak or hear doesn't make a deaf mute any less of a woman, but many think they are a freak.

Blakman
12-06-20, 02:32
So off I went to centro to meet a forum member. I took my 3 puffs from crippy. High as a kite lets go. There were lots out there and I saw what I wanted. The forum member met who he wanted. Anyways one more spin around and mine was gone. I told him take the girl he wanted so left me with option 2. A tall proportionate towards thick side but not quite there. She said 40 and i slid back but monitored her at same time. Member chose is girl I chose her and off to premier plaza we went. She didn't want plaza so we chose 12 mil spot on same side we met. She got undress and hugged me. I hugged her too. If felt very warm. She put the condom on and starting sucking. Even allowed me to deep throat. Then with the sweetness of her voice she ask me what position I wanted. I was stunned. We did doggy. And she was making the nicest moans. I found a gem. We then went to her riding me. And she hug me affectionately. Then we went to missionary and i nutted. She held me and caress my back. I gave her $40 mil and she spoke very good english. I was amazed and of course I tried bringing her to the house. I text her and centro math did not add up. 2 2 hrs $200 mil peso. So I suggest we continue meet in centro which she seemed happy about

Surfer500
12-06-20, 02:32
Come on back, it's quite nice here now that the rain is gone.I should, things are getting really bad here in Southern California with a heavy duty yet hard to enforce lockdown starting Sunday night for three weeks. No more dining any where except take out, households are not allowed to visit others, all non essential business closed. All essential business's like market's only allowed to have 20% capacity meaning there will be long lines and waits to get in places. All public places closed including parks, trails, and the list goes on.

You've got it made in the shade as things seem fairly stable in Medellin, enjoy it, your so lucky!

Knowledge
12-06-20, 03:19
Slapshot was not fair to you. He denied your Centro rathood based on paying above market rate. Clearly that is now behind you.


So off I went to centro to meet a forum member. I took my 3 puffs from crippy. High as a kite lets go. There were lots out there and I saw what I wanted. The forum member met who he wanted. Anyways one more spin around and mine was gone. I told him take the girl he wanted so left me with option 2. A tall proportionate towards thick side but not quite there. She said 40 and i slid back but monitored her at same time. Member chose is girl I chose her and off to premier plaza we went. She didn't want plaza so we chose 12 mil spot on same side we met. She got undress and hugged me. I hugged her too. If felt very warm. She put the condom on and starting sucking. Even allowed me to deep throat. Then with the sweetness of her voice she ask me what position I wanted. I was stunned. We did doggy. And she was making the nicest moans. I found a gem. We then went to her riding me. And she hug me affectionately. Then we went to missionary and i nutted. She held me and caress my back. I gave her $40 mil and she spoke very good english. I was amazed and of course I tried bringing her to the house. I text her and centro math did not add up. 2 2 hrs $200 mil peso. So I suggest we continue meet in centro which she seemed happy about

Njoean197
12-06-20, 04:25
Used it the first time after setting up my account and it worked. I could not get it to work after that. Orders would not go through. I called my credit card companies and they ensured my card was active and I could use it and my orders would still get cancelled. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, were you able to correct it.

LeyenLouvain
12-06-20, 04:32
I did one a few times in El Centro who is rarely out working, and although she can't speak or hear, she could definitely moan. And what a performer to boot!
They also find it more difficult to get regular jobs so it's a really good example of how sex tourists help those out who really need it and should therefore be welcomed rather than protested against.

Surfer500
12-06-20, 04:48
Used it the first time after setting up my account and it worked. I could not get it to work after that. Orders would not go through. I called my credit card companies and they ensured my card was active and I could use it and my orders would still get cancelled. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, were you able to correct it.Odd, I have used them for over two years and never had a problem. However I was at a friends place a few weeks ago and we ordered some food from OCI and then were notified that the order had been cancelled with no explanation. My friend subsequently got a notification that the order had been cancelled because one of the items, smoked ribs was sold out / not available. I know this is not what happened to you, but I also had an occasion where something was omitted in an order, and once there was a delay, and upon contacting Rappi, they were very quick to respond and fix things. That at least is my experiences with them, and you need to be cognizant of how far away the restaurants are from where you are. In other words, if your in Pobaldo, don't order food from across town because if it's raining or at rush hour there could be quite a delay. Hopefully you have gotten things worked out with them.

Knowledge
12-06-20, 04:49
Uninstall and reinstall. You can also try the desktop browser version if you have a PC or tablet with you.


Used it the first time after setting up my account and it worked. I could not get it to work after that. Orders would not go through. I called my credit card companies and they ensured my card was active and I could use it and my orders would still get cancelled. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, were you able to correct it.

Blakman
12-06-20, 10:51
Theres 20,30, 40 k half hour prices. I am sure if you entertain some filth girls theres 5 and 10 k as well. Some girls will try bring you to hotel that's just 15 minutes and still try charge you 30 k. Be on alert for that as well. I go over the 30 minutes which has cause confusion so I paid 50 k, few times I paid 40 k, 30 k and 20 k. I don't think that's getting played. I do notice most girls don't shower up afterwards. They just put on make up and bounce right back out there. So fellas keep that in mind if you freaky. I am sure guys are not going to tell you this. Most girls do not wear mask, and it gets quite crowded out there. Centro is an okay option if you don't want to entertain 150,200, and 300 k. But its not a bargain if you can get 100 mil 3 HR 2 leche deal. This is by far the best deal unless its a freebie or extended overnight agreement. The member did not enjoy is last 2 citas. He likes the barbie dolls, I had a great time. 2 girls that treated me like I was a stud.


I guess I'm a little confused about your negotiation, or lack of one. It was 20 K with no discussion of anything beforehand. And a knock at the door after an hour at Premier Plaza? That sounds odd as well. At what isn't supposed to happen in El Centro? So you had an experience you weren't expecting sexually? So ignoring that you got played at the end of the session, what shocked you about the experience? Again, was it that you couldn't have a great sexual experience in El Centro?

Open your eyes Grasshopper, sounds like you just got a taste of what can be had there, however you need to refine your negotiating skills a bit beforehand.

Nice report!.

Mr Enternational
12-06-20, 14:04
Most guys wouldn't get near one with a ten foot pole, What would it matter if the guy could not speak the language anyway? It would all sound like mumbling and moaning whether she could speak or not.

Lucky Nuts
12-06-20, 16:15
Which of the two works best for you guys and why?I've been using both the past couple weeks. Facebook is MUCH more productive. So far I found only one needle in the haystack of SA. It's mostly agencies I think.

SlapShot10
12-06-20, 16:52
This is fascinating stuff! Even though you are saying 100k 3hr 2 leche is the best possible deal in all of South America, your centro street ratness is shining through. Using your own numbers, you could get the following in centro: 100k 2.5hr 5 leche. Now, maybe with the cost of a room, you drop that to 3 or 4 leches. Of course, I doubt you have interest in trying to bust that many times in that short a period, but... I think you may be earning your whiskers sooner than expected.

I had a freebie come over after work, yesterday, to celebrate my 2-3 days of getting back to basics. She arrived looking cute, black torn up jeans, black top. She arrived in a DiDi (19k) just before I got home. The plan was drinks & jacuzzi. The reality was, we cracked a beer and went straight to the bedroom. I took her to the guest bedroom, and she wanted to fuck up the bed where Pinky and I sleep. So, I indulged her. She really got me going when I found out she thought she was coming over for a threesome. So, that will definitely be on the calendar, this week. She was all about the photos and videos, and sent them all to herself. She actually sent a friendly reminder, later in the evening, to delete them. She said if I ever wanted them, she has them and all I need to do is ask. Anyway, started with BBBJ, then DTY, then BBFS, then CFS. The best part was the third position, mounting her from behind, as she was hanging off the edge of the bed howling. She had two handfuls of the bedspread and was taking it like a champ. Wham bam thank you ma'am, DiDi back to Bello (21k). It took her 66 minutes to get home. She lives with her grandma, aunt, & cousin, and is from some beach town in Venezuela.

Headed back out to Lleras. Fuck Hooters. They have the worst wifi and tv setup in all of my travels. They finally got a Firestick, but only for one tv, and it doesn't even fucking work because the wifi is dog shit. There's my rant. Chicas looked good and are friendly. Next stop was Gusto to do some window shopping. Interesting night. All the while, Coin Slot was begging to come make a little cash, but I held my ground. Wasn't in the mood to run off for round / girl 3 of the day, and leave my buddy solo. So, I saw an amiga who was with a hot little friend. I inquired about 400k for both, at my place. They responded it was money making time, and they'll do 450k each. I didn't even respond. I think we all knew we were too far apart to bullshit. Well, these two got a couple free drinks from two asian guys, then made their way to the VIP section. My amiga let me know as they were leaving, with an ear to ear smile, "300 dollars!" I'm assuming that was 300 each, compliments of a couple weekend warriors. Now, I don't think we need to blast off on the tired will this ruin the market argument. My amiga will be right back to base price of 200k any time our schedules align, and she's not already out in Gusto. I was getting eye fucked by some chica who was rubbing up on an older black guy all night. She motioned towards the women's restroom, so I obliged. She walked over and started stuffing her tongue down my throat and grabbing my cock. We exchanged numbers. I also got the number of another hottie who sent me some strange message at 4a that the guy she was leaving with disrespected her because he didn't want to pay her price. No clue what she was referring to or why she felt the need to tell me. Maybe a last ditch effort to make some coin, before the night ended.

So, long story short, it was a good day. Pinky in the morning, Vennie in the afternoon, and I'm at a point where even with Coin Slot begging, I wasn't interested in going for a 3-in-1-day scenario. Vennie wants to come back, today, but I'll probably wait until Pinky returns for a trio. I have a little itch telling me to hit Centro, today, but we'll see if it gets scratched. I'm feeling a bit hungover, and not sure how the day will play out. Oh, the freebie is an 18 yo from Tinder that came to my Halloween party for a couple hours, in case you're wondering.

Surfer500
12-06-20, 16:54
What would it matter if the guy could not speak the language anyway? It would all sound like mumbling and moaning whether she could speak or not.That's the point, we have posters here that don't speak the language so the deaf / mutes are perfect for them.

JjBee62
12-06-20, 17:31
Most guys wouldn't get near one with a ten foot pole, and honestly, they don't know what they are missing out on, except the two of us, and perhaps a few others not willing to come out of the closet on this. I did one a few times in El Centro who is rarely out working, and although she can't speak or hear, she could definitely moan. And what a performer to boot!

I know others are reading this and are probably shaking their heads, but when you think about it, not being able to speak or hear doesn't make a deaf mute any less of a woman, but many think they are a freak.Did a woman with no legs in a wheelchair once, but that was a freebie at a swinger's club.

Surfer500
12-06-20, 17:51
Theres 20,30, 40 k half hour prices. I am sure if you entertain some filth girls theres 5 and 10 k as well. Some girls will try bring you to hotel that's just 15 minutes and still try charge you 30 k. Be on alert for that as well. I go over the 30 minutes which has cause confusion so I paid 50 k, few times I paid 40 k, 30 k and 20 k. I don't think that's getting played. I do notice most girls don't shower up afterwards. They just put on make up and bounce right back out there. So fellas keep that in mind if you freaky. I am sure guys are not going to tell you this. Most girls do not wear mask, and it gets quite crowded out there. Centro is an okay option if you don't want to entertain 150,200, and 300 k. But its not a bargain if you can get 100 mil 3 HR 2 leche deal. This is by far the best deal unless its a freebie or extended overnight agreement. The member did not enjoy is last 2 citas. He likes the barbie dolls, I had a great time. 2 girls that treated me like I was a stud..I don't know what to do with you sometimes Grasshopper, so here's the same information and tips which I have given you before, which haven't sunk in yet. First off, over 95% if not more of the clients in El Centro are locals. And they don't go around shopping for prices like you appear to do. Instead they typically make offers to the girls, and as far as the Hotels, the locals know which ones to utilize based on what they cost, and you will learn this over time versus letting the girls steer you to Hotels, and this is because some of the Hotels pay kickback's to the girls.

So here's some case studies for you. A lot of times you will see a local approach a Chica, and after a brief dialogue, the guy walks away. What has occurred is that the guy made an offer to the girl, versus asking how much, and the girl may have made a counter-offer which he rejected, hence he walked. The difference here is that the locals most of the time don't ask but make an offer. I have been told this by girls I know, who are typically pissed off at the Colombians offering them only 15 K at times. And if you walk around asking girls how much, they typically will say 30 K, but that's the retail price. And most of the time if you speak Spanish you can do better, but I don't bother most of the time with things being so cheap there, if I like what I see then I make sure a BBBJ is included.

And why are you so hung up on the 3 HR 2 leche deals for 100 K. The El Centro Hotels are not the ideal places to have extended sessions, so why not two separate sessions at 50 K each including the room?

As far as you getting played, you are getting played when the Chica asks / demands more money upon completion of the deed, unless something changed from what was originally agreed to.

As far as girls going for 5 K, well I haven't been with one of those yet. I have seen a Chica offering 10 K to go to the room, but she looked like a beached whale. However, I've had a few 15 K girls that weren't bad yet older models.

If you go along the backside of the Church there's a slew of girls, although nothing to write home about, that will go for 15 K and 5 K for the room, and yes it will be for no more than 30 minutes and you will probably end up with scabies after using one of those places.

I know you may stick out like a sore thumb in El Centro, and don't speak much Spanish, but approach it differently. When you see something you like, be very direct and spell out exactly what you want and what your willing to pay, and I know you speak enough Spanish to do this. And don't be a Cheap Charlie over 5-10 K. If you see a Chica your attracted to, as an example, offer 30 K for one hour with the BBBJ included and you pay for the room. And if she balks then walk. The majority of the girls will accept 30 K, however may blink about the BBBJ but most won't. And if a Chica tells you how good she is and is very pushy, and want's more for extra time, walk away, she's a hustler, and has hustled gringo's before which sounds like has already happened to you. The best ones to go with are the girls with the deer in the headlights look, and part timers, at least that has been my experience.

And use either the Premier Plaza or Zona Rosa that will cost more than the other Hotels, but they have hot water, they check ID's, and they clean the rooms.

It takes a while to learn how to work the El Centro street scene, it's kind of like an apprenticeship, its's going to be while before you become a journeyman but you'll get there!

Knowledge
12-06-20, 18:34
In all honesty if I were to get sick I would rather be treated here than in a health care facility in a place where the virus is taxing the system.


I should, things are getting really bad here in Southern California with a heavy duty yet hard to enforce lockdown starting Sunday night for three weeks. No more dining any where except take out, households are not allowed to visit others, all non essential business closed. All essential business's like market's only allowed to have 20% capacity meaning there will be long lines and waits to get in places. All public places closed including parks, trails, and the list goes on.

You've got it made in the shade as things seem fairly stable in Medellin, enjoy it, your so lucky!

Surfer500
12-06-20, 23:15
Did a woman with no legs in a wheelchair once, but that was a freebie at a swinger's club.Interesting indeed, and I have seen a few mongers with no legs in wheelchairs over the years, once in Mexico, and a few times in Thailand. So I'm going to have to assume you had to move the woman onto a bed or sofa to penetrate her, where I guess a guy in a wheelchair could just stay seated in the wheelchair and have a woman, at least one that would fit within the confines of the chair ride him, without having to dismount from the chair or requiring a bed.

JohnnyO
12-07-20, 00:20
I don't know what to do with you sometimes Grasshopper, so here's the same information and tips which I have given you before, which haven't sunk in yet. First off, over 95% if not more of the clients in El Centro are locals. And they don't go around shopping for prices like you appear to do. Instead they typically make offers to the girls, and as far as the Hotels, the locals know which ones to utilize based on what they cost, and you will learn this over time versus letting the girls steer you to Hotels, and this is because some of the Hotels pay kickback's to the girls.

So here's some case studies for you.Lots of interesting bits of info here, man I am totally addicted to street hookers. Sorry I can't chip in regarding Medellin or Colombia yet and I have no intention of going off topic but I'll just say that I have often picked up some real diamonds off the street. One absolute stunner who could not speak a lick of English would often come round cook, clean, laundry and fuck for $10 in Cambodia. I am really enjoying reading all about the El Centro adventures as I have mongered in some of the scariest dingiest places way off the tourist trail just for laughs.

The whole 100 mil 3 hour 2 leche thing I think is funny as hell and I am certainly going to try it (Not in Centro) as I think its a good combo, but Blakman why would a hooker not want to go back to your chosen hotel, I don't get it I'm confused by this and this would set off some red flags for me?

Knowledge
12-07-20, 01:14
Sometimes it is kickbacks as Surfer mentioned. Other times it is a question of safety (theirs) because when the girls are seen exiting a hotel everybody knows they have some cash. Some of the girls are not comfortable walking in and out of a hotel if their clique is not near it. Premium Plaza, Bulevar Botero, and Zona Rosa don't fit the safety category since they are so near ground zero and in full view. Surfer perfectly described the Centro rules of engagement.

Speaking of Centro hotels, for the first time the other night I noticed bunk beds in addition to the queen size bed in a room on the third floor of Bulevar Botero. I'm not usually in there after dark so that is probably why after all these years I am finding this out. Usually the hotel keeps short term Centro rats like me on the lower floor. The place was so busy this weekend they had to rent out the long term rooms.


Lots of interesting bits of info here, man I am totally addicted to street hookers. Sorry I can't chip in regarding Medellin or Colombia yet and I have no intention of going off topic but I'll just say that I have often picked up some real diamonds off the street. One absolute stunner who could not speak a lick of English would often come round cook, clean, laundry and fuck for $10 in Cambodia. I am really enjoying reading all about the El Centro adventures as I have mongered in some of the scariest dingiest places way off the tourist trail just for laughs.

The whole 100 mil 3 hour 2 leche thing I think is funny as hell and I am certainly going to try it (Not in Centro) as I think its a good combo, but Blakman why would a hooker not want to go back to your chosen hotel, I don't get it I'm confused by this and this would set off some red flags for me?

JjBee62
12-07-20, 01:28
Interesting indeed, and I have seen a few mongers with no legs in wheelchairs over the years, once in Mexico, and a few times in Thailand. So I'm going to have to assume you had to move the woman onto a bed or sofa to penetrate her, where I guess a guy in a wheelchair could just stay seated in the wheelchair and have a woman, at least one that would fit within the confines of the chair ride him, without having to dismount from the chair or requiring a bed.I know you have seen the one legged, toothless sacalero that used to hop around Veracruz. I'm sure there are a few who went there, but I don't think anyone would ever admit it.

Surfer500
12-07-20, 02:35
Lots of interesting bits of info here, man I am totally addicted to street hookers. Sorry I can't chip in regarding Medellin or Colombia yet and I have no intention of going off topic but I'll just say that I have often picked up some real diamonds off the street. One absolute stunner who could not speak a lick of English would often come round cook, clean, laundry and fuck for $10 in Cambodia. I am really enjoying reading all about the El Centro adventures as I have mongered in some of the scariest dingiest places way off the tourist trail just for laughs.

The whole 100 mil 3 hour 2 leche thing I think is funny as hell and I am certainly going to try it (Not in Centro) as I think its a good combo, but Blakman why would a hooker not want to go back to your chosen hotel, I don't get it I'm confused by this and this would set off some red flags for me?Welcome to the Medellin board, you will do well in El Centro!

And as far as Cambodia, I had some great experiences there and it was dirt cheap. As far as a scary / dingy place to monger, probably the worst I ever saw was in New Delhi, India. Just to much for me to pull the trigger on some of the beasts of burden working the streets there, but did get an unexpected ass licking in an upscale massage parlour there.

Again, welcome to the Medellin board, and get your ass down here to sample the street hookers.

You won't be disappointed, and it's cheap!

Blakman
12-07-20, 07:54
When you get to centro. You will experience the loyalty, territory, the filth, the price scheme. A whole bunch. You have chicks that don't even want to go a block over to better hotel much less leave the area to go to your hotel. The price they offer to leave the area is comparable to low end gusto girl. I don't think you want to pay a centro girl gusto money. So theres a lot that's said and not being said. But in Medellin theres lots of resources. Centro can be an option when you run into some cancellations. I am here to skip some of the winter. So i am not in desperate mode.


Lots of interesting bits of info here, man I am totally addicted to street hookers. Sorry I can't chip in regarding Medellin or Colombia yet and I have no intention of going off topic but I'll just say that I have often picked up some real diamonds off the street. One absolute stunner who could not speak a lick of English would often come round cook, clean, laundry and fuck for $10 in Cambodia. I am really enjoying reading all about the El Centro adventures as I have mongered in some of the scariest dingiest places way off the tourist trail just for laughs.

The whole 100 mil 3 hour 2 leche thing I think is funny as hell and I am certainly going to try it (Not in Centro) as I think its a good combo, but Blakman why would a hooker not want to go back to your chosen hotel, I don't get it I'm confused by this and this would set off some red flags for me?.

Elvis 2008
12-07-20, 14:10
Which of the two works best for you guys and why?I have been the biggest advocate of using SA in Colombia, and I have to say now that you did not need to pay that near $100 a month fee in Colombia. The only exception would be if you are looking for a higher quality woman for a long term relationship who has a real job over someone making a living on her back. I guess you could find that with Facebook, but I think it would be harder. If you are just looking for high quality sex and not a long term arrangement, forget about SA.

Surfer500
12-07-20, 17:36
When you get to centro. You will experience the loyalty, territory, the filth, the price scheme. A whole bunch. You have chicks that don't even want to go a block over to better hotel much less leave the area to go to your hotel. The price they offer to leave the area is comparable to low end gusto girl. I don't think you want to pay a centro girl gusto money. So theres a lot that's said and not being said. But in Medellin theres lots of resources. Centro can be an option when you run into some cancellations. I am here to skip some of the winter. So i am not in desperate mode..I don't know if it ever occurred to you that most of the El Centro girls are not accustomed to being taken away from where they work, let alone going with an unknown stranger they've just met, hence the pricing you were given. And the thought of taking someone out of their element, kind of like taking a fish out of water, without some prior history together is not the way to roll when dealing with El Centro girls for the first time. And as far as the girls not wanting to go to other Hotels, I've never had an issue with that, albeit there may be some reasons such as kickbacks, but it's odd that apparently multiple girls refused to go to another Hotel with you. I suspect they may have been scared somehow, but they all know that the Premier Plaza as an example, is not a "shithole" like most of the others, and it's surprising they would turn a customer down over this, unless perhaps they had been blackballed from the Hotel.

Additionally, your observations / experience thus far in El Centro is limited based on only a handful of visits, and most probably your Spanish speaking skills are limiting you, hence the issues with the Hotels. As I have told you before things operate differently there, and you have to keep in mind your not dealing with Fayboo or Tinder Chicas there, and most don't even have smart phones!

As far as paying an El Centro girl Gusto money, well there's no seasoned street rats here doing that for sure, and for what you are paying say for your three hour 2 leche regimen, I typically pay on the average 150 K for an all nighter, with as many leches as I can muster.

So to portend that an El Centro girl costs as much as a Gusto girl is off base and misleading, yet in your case, not surprising what you think which isn't the case at least in my experience.

SlapShot10
12-07-20, 18:47
Woke up hungover, ended up messaging Coin Slot. She came over around 2p. 150k 2hrs 1 leche. She's a fun chick, and is living on her own with 800k rent + services / internet. So, I'd imagine she'll start being more active in the game. Anyhow, I think I'm retiring Coin Slot. The BBBJ is good, and then I want to fuck her tight little pierced pussy, but the fact is, it's too tight. The first 5-10 minutes is just trying to get it in without her whining or pushing away.

Off to watch some football.

Invited ex-wifey over, and told her to bring a friend. They arrived around 830p maybe. The friend was the typical lots of makeup, long dark hair, fake tits, some tattoos Paisa type. I was too fucked up from drinking all afternoon, so I just took it easy. They were hungry so we ordered a pizza. We hit the jacuzzi. Had some grinding, making out, groping with both. I said let's go to the room. Ex-wifey told me, she wants 250k. I said yep sure ok. I started in the living room by picking ex-wifey up over my shoulders and DATY. If that's not proof she's a spinner, I don't know what is. Off to the bedroom, licking, sucking, fucking, BBFS. Good stuff. I realize the amiga has been taking forever to arrive. I go out to the living room, and tell her let's fucking go. She says, yeah of course, but I won't do anything with her, only with you. I roll my eyes and go back to finish with ex-wifey. Then, I stand my ground and stay in bed. They hang out in the jacuzzi for awhile, and then ask for a taxi. I gave them 40k for the arrival, which I called bullshit, but then realized the amiga came from Bello, then went to meet ex-wifey at her place, then came to Poblado. They went to some metro station when they left, and the DiDi was 9k. All in, 49k in transportation, good possible finale with ex-wifey, and aside from no trio, saved myself 250k as I wasn't really interested to go round 3 vs going to bed.

Now, deeply considering not going home for Christmas. Considering NYE in Rio, then back in Jan. Lots to figure out and decide, so spending the day looking at apartments, flights, etc. Going back to SoCal for 2 weeks, traveling thru 3 intl airports, then staying with my folks, all while restaurants and shit are closed, sounds like my personal version of hell.

Blakman
12-07-20, 21:04
I am universal bi**ch. My chapelle impersonation. I fuck bitches, gusto, casas, escorts, tinder, few fb. I am vast so I do not need to master slumhole like centro. Its my cancellation go to. Now I just had a girl suck me off 2 hrs at apartment 2 leches. 120 mil including tax. As slapaccountant would compute that's 60 mil per HR. Dick fail me but her mouth didn't. And she showered afyerwards.


I don't know if it ever occurred to you that most of the El Centro girls are not accustomed to being taken away from where they work, let alone going with an unknown stranger they've just met, hence the pricing you were given. And the thought of taking someone out of their element, kind of like taking a fish out of water, without some prior history together is not the way to roll when dealing with El Centro girls for the first time. And as far as the girls not wanting to go to other Hotels, I've never had an issue with that, albeit there may be some reasons such as kickbacks, but it's odd that apparently multiple girls refused to go to another Hotel with you. I suspect they may have been scared somehow, but they all know that the Premier Plaza as an example, is not a "shithole" like most of the others, and it's surprising they would turn a customer down over this, unless perhaps they had been blackballed from the Hotel.

Additionally, your observations / experience thus far in El Centro is limited based on only a handful of visits, and most probably your Spanish speaking skills are limiting you, hence the issues with the Hotels. As I have told you before things operate differently there, and you have to keep in mind your not dealing with Fayboo or Tinder Chicas there, and most don't even have smart phones!

As far as paying an El Centro girl Gusto money, well there's no seasoned street rats here doing that for sure, and for what you are paying say for your three hour 2 leche regimen, I typically pay on the average 150 K for an all nighter, with as many leches as I can muster.

So to portend that an El Centro girl costs as much as a Gusto girl is off base and misleading, yet in your case, not surprising what you think which isn't the case at least in my experience..

JjBee62
12-07-20, 21:57
I am universal bi**ch. My chapelle impersonation. I fuck bitches, gusto, casas, escorts, tinder, few fb. I am vast so I do not need to master slumhole like centro. Its my cancellation go to. Now I just had a girl suck me off 2 hrs at apartment 2 leches. 120 mil including tax. As slapaccountant would compute that's 60 mil per HR. Dick fail me but her mouth didn't. And she showered afyerwards..Or if you break it down further, it's 4 30 minute El Centro sessions at 30 k each, which is the going rate.

In the end, the cost really isn't that big of a deal, unless you're way off one way or another. If Surfer or Tall Man or Pollo Negro spends 12 hours with a girl for 100-200 k, they might turn around the next day and pay the same for 2 hours. If they're happy and the girl is happy, it was a success.

On the other hand, I'm sure each of them has gotten a low-ball rate and had a session that wasn't worth it.

Find your sweet spot. Find the price point which is in your comfort zone, which also gives you the type of sessions you want. That's what most of the guys here have done. There's really no way to compare sessions between mongers, even with the same girl. The girl who left you disgusted is going to blow some other guy's socks off. The girl who fucked you senseless might be a boring fuck for the next guy.

The information you share is priceless. I'm sure several guys will end up saving money by following your lead. All reports are helpful. However, there's no measuring stick to determine whether your 120 k session was better than another guy's 30 k or 300 k session.

Knowledge
12-07-20, 22:44
Wise words.


Or if you break it down further, it's 4 30 minute El Centro sessions at 30 k each, which is the going rate.

In the end, the cost really isn't that big of a deal, unless you're way off one way or another. If Surfer or Tall Man or Pollo Negro spends 12 hours with a girl for 100-200 k, they might turn around the next day and pay the same for 2 hours. If they're happy and the girl is happy, it was a success.

On the other hand, I'm sure each of them has gotten a low-ball rate and had a session that wasn't worth it.

Find your sweet spot. Find the price point which is in your comfort zone, which also gives you the type of sessions you want. That's what most of the guys here have done. There's really no way to compare sessions between mongers, even with the same girl. The girl who left you disgusted is going to blow some other guy's socks off. The girl who fucked you senseless might be a boring fuck for the next guy.

The information you share is priceless. I'm sure several guys will end up saving money by following your lead. All reports are helpful. However, there's no measuring stick to determine whether your 120 k session was better than another guy's 30 k or 300 k session.

Blakman
12-08-20, 01:25
I am in the luxury of my apartment. It makes a big fucking deal. My client can be confortable as they want. They can Have a drink, smoke, can shower, have something to eat. Who you kidding. Its much different. Only a hasbee wouldn't see that. You guys don't hate cause I am the 3 HR 2 leche oral no condom king. Don't hate and imitate. Maybe you experience your best life. LOL


Or if you break it down further, it's 4 30 minute El Centro sessions at 30 k each, which is the going rate.

In the end, the cost really isn't that big of a deal, unless you're way off one way or another. If Surfer or Tall Man or Pollo Negro spends 12 hours with a girl for 100-200 k, they might turn around the next day and pay the same for 2 hours. If they're happy and the girl is happy, it was a success.

On the other hand, I'm sure each of them has gotten a low-ball rate and had a session that wasn't worth it.

Find your sweet spot. Find the price point which is in your comfort zone, which also gives you the type of sessions you want. That's what most of the guys here have done. There's really no way to compare sessions between mongers, even with the same girl. The girl who left you disgusted is going to blow some other guy's socks off. The girl who fucked you senseless might be a boring fuck for the next guy.

The information you share is priceless. I'm sure several guys will end up saving money by following your lead. All reports are helpful. However, there's no measuring stick to determine whether your 120 k session was better than another guy's 30 k or 300 k session..

FatmanSlayer
12-08-20, 02:35
Used it the first time after setting up my account and it worked. I could not get it to work after that. Orders would not go through. I called my credit card companies and they ensured my card was active and I could use it and my orders would still get cancelled. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, were you able to correct it.Yes I have trouble with Rappi too. Nothing works. Their customer service is horrible too and suggests you use cash if you can't get credit card working. Transactions are not even showing up as being attempted on my bank's end and they say nothing is wrong. Honestly Colombia is terrible with American Credit Cards when it comes to these online apps. The same card works 100% fine in restaurants and shopping malls, so I don't know what the deal with these Colombians that they got up their asses.

Surfer500
12-08-20, 03:16
I am universal bi**ch. My chapelle impersonation. I fuck bitches, gusto, casas, escorts, tinder, few fb. I am vast so I do not need to master slumhole like centro. Its my cancellation go to. Now I just had a girl suck me off 2 hrs at apartment 2 leches. 120 mil including tax. As slapaccountant would compute that's 60 mil per HR. Dick fail me but her mouth didn't. And she showered afyerwards..I have no issue with how you roll, and it's entertaining to say the least.

However, when you profess to be an expert about something, and your not, that's when I and others might take issue.

As far as Centro, it's an acquired taste, and not for most. Your to be commended for trying it out, albeit I, and I know Knowledge saw potential in you as a street rat, yet your experience there is very limited, so don't get bent out of shape if somebody calls you out on things not in your wheel house.

And I appreciate that you have thick skin, it can get brutal on this board as you've found out.

You should be a very happy camper right now as Colombia is wide open as many other places aren't.

And keep the reports coming, and you can count on me dinging you on some of them for sure!

LvZooMan211
12-08-20, 03:32
Hi guys,

I am thinking about booking a flight to Medellin for Dec 26 until after New Year. Anyone know the status of a lockdown or curfew? What about the bars? I had read that the government may impose it but not sure if it's true or not. TIA.

LoveItHere69
12-08-20, 04:24
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/el-poblado/experta-en-novatos-arrechita-servicio-lujo-id-2rhxy

Could be some photoshopping done on this one.

DonCarlos1234
12-08-20, 04:46
I have been the biggest advocate of using SA in Colombia, and I have to say now that you did not need to pay that near $100 a month fee in Colombia. The only exception would be if you are looking for a higher quality woman for a long term relationship who has a real job over someone making a living on her back. I guess you could find that with Facebook, but I think it would be harder. If you are just looking for high quality sex and not a long term arrangement, forget about SA.Well said yet what do I do with the non-pro 10's I collected on SA. Elvis? Because I doubt I'll find them anywhere else. Hope I am wrong, so and as a newbie to FB how do I use that!! ?? without getting myself into public exposure? What search terms? I know Elvis wouldn't know, but someone here? I look forward to walking thru Parque Lleras. Njoean197? Tips? On FB? PM me? After far too many encounters and too many choices here in Bogota, I leave Bogota for new discoveries in Medellin. I think I already have more than I can handle. "A mans reach should exceed his grasp" : we shall see.

Chicafan
12-08-20, 05:06
Well said yet what do I do with the non-pro 10's I collected on SA. Elvis? Because I doubt I'll find them anywhere else. Hope I am wrong, so and as a newbie to FB how do I use that!! ?? without getting myself into public exposure? What search terms? I know Elvis wouldn't know, but someone here? I look forward to walking thru Parque Lleras. Njoean197? Tips? On FB? PM me? After far too many encounters and too many choices here in Bogota, I leave Bogota for new discoveries in Medellin. I think I already have more than I can handle. "A mans reach should exceed his grasp" : we shall see.Every girl on SA that f--ks for something of value, ie all of them, is a pro. They are framing it differently because it seems more respectable. But yes, there are some better looking girls on SA.

Njoean197
12-08-20, 06:12
Well said yet what do I do with the non-pro 10's I collected on SA. Elvis? Because I doubt I'll find them anywhere else. Hope I am wrong, so and as a newbie to FB how do I use that!! ?? without getting myself into public exposure? What search terms? I know Elvis wouldn't know, but someone here? I look forward to walking thru Parque Lleras. Njoean197? Tips? On FB? PM me? After far too many encounters and too many choices here in Bogota, I leave Bogota for new discoveries in Medellin. I think I already have more than I can handle. "A mans reach should exceed his grasp" : we shall see.If you enjoy an in-person selection where just a hint of "game" can make your overall mongering experience and "session" slightly more enjoyable, then I don't think Parque Lleras can be beat. I have been to Sosua, Santo Domingo, Mexico City, and Cancun. They are all fun and you can score very good looking women for some cash in all places, but Medellin has them all beat and its not up for much debate. I have only been twice and I am not the expert, but here are some things which I think will help in Parque Lleras. For these Comparisons, obviously these are generalizations and use common sense according to the individual you are dealing with. Plenty of low-class scammers no matter which country / city your in.

1. Rates= 200 k anywhere outside Gustos for 1 HR session, 300 k-400 k for multi-hour session. Inside Gusto's 300 k-400 k for 1 HR session, 400 k to 500 k for multi-hour session.

2. Looks of Women= Alot of 7's, some 6's, some 8's, and a few 9's. All are available for the right price. I sessioned with a high 8/ low 9 and it was G. F. E. And good, but my least favorite session. Personally I am more comfortable in the 7-8 range where the girls really try hard to pretend to enjoy being with me, or maybe they do, either way I am much more satisfied haha. People talk of disgusting T-Girls roaming Parque Lleras, but I have spent 8-9 nights there and I have seen none of that or anything lower than a 6. Non-pros are very beautiful and you will catch them giving you "looks" which is strange but awesome. I haven' fucked a non-pro or really tried to hit on them just because the pros give such good service at low prices, its just really unnecessary on a short vacation. I am going to give it a go on my next trip though.

3. Attitude of Girls= Compared to USA, Medellin girls are super friendly and very easy to joke around with. Compared to Santo Domingo, also more friendly and not as hardcore. You need to watch your step more with the girls of the Dominican Republic , especially in Sosua. Compared to Mexico, the Mexicana's are genuninely the nicest and easiest to get along with, but they are not as sexy physically. I have not accepted some offers from girls in Medellin and they don't get super upset about it and give you dirty looks, but you can sense they are not thrilled to get their offers refused. The. Are. Girls will give you shit and some will even ask for money just talking to them. Mexicana's will try not to even ask you for money, but obviously they will be upset if you do not give them what you negotiated and try their best to pretend its a "gift" rather than paying them to fuck. Non-pros seem to be very nice just for everyday interactions like buying food, taxis, restaurants, etc. Personally I really liked interacting with the people of Medellin and I found them to have a sense of class and dignity.

4. Sex= Colombianas take pride in sport fucking. They approach a session like an athlete approaches a game, real skill and effort will go into your sessions. Its truly fucking awesome. They will also relax with you after sex and enjoy some down time, some will spend more time than others, and some will ask permission to leave early if you are cool with it after you have fucked them. They appear to be genuinely upset with themselves if you can't come. I was on a 3rd or 4th session with a girl and she was really upset I had a hard time busting a nut, and was seemed very satisfied once I came. Mexicanas and Dominicanas fucked good too, but the effort displayed by the Paisa's is what's best in life. Mexicana's seem to like after sex intimacy the most out of the 3, which I personally appreciate a lot as well. Be careful, many girls will fuck raw and it can be very tempting as some will try to initiate it, especially if you have been drinking. You have been warned.

5. Bonus= Venezuelans= Some really good looking vennies walking around Parque Lleras as well. They are attractive and friendly, but its much more apparent they were raised in a 3rd world country. They don't display the level of class and general social understanding of the Colombianas. They are still a great time and love to party, but don't be surprised when interacting with them you notice its kind of like dealing with a teenager. I have noticed some look kind of sad too, which can be depressing when your trying to party.

6. Bars / Clubs= The bar to your right at the end of the Park from Gustos, which is called "Parque Lleras" I think is a great spot. Girls will only ask 200 k in there and the looks of the girls are only slightly worse. I partied in some regular clubs in Parque Lleras, but honestly I don't remember their names, but the nightlife if fun. I did the notice the whole, Colombians party in groups thing which did seem to make it harder to pick up non-pros. Gustos is fun, 10-20 k cover and drinks are around 20 k I think. Not bad. You will notice around 8-9 pm Many people just hanging around and partying in the Park and alot of working girls as well. The ones in the Park can be kinda low class at times.

7. Tips= Take your time and do not rush it. Most of the time you can find exactly what you want for the right price. Last winter there was a short time hotel literally down the block from Gustos, I think it was like 20 bucks for 4 hours. I used it several times and it was clean and very convenient. What worked best for me was get there around 8 and start drinking and pull a girl by 11. Session for an Hour and go back for seconds. Then on Friday or Saturday, late night sessions at the after hours strip club Faison for round 3.

8. Your Approach/Appearance: Cash is fucking King and anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves. I am ashamed to admit I went on a 2 day bender there. I was full of coke, booze, *****s, I was a fucking disgraceful filthy shell of a man after 2 days and guess who was absolutely thrilled to come see me for 200k and let me blow coke offer her sexy hot ass. You guessed right, a Medellin Paisa. Now did she want to stay and cuddle with me and look at the stars for hours on end with me being a drunk mess, no. But she did give me everything I wanted for 200k, yes! That sums everything up right there. There are definately things you can do to make the most of your experience and maximize your enjoyment. Speaking spanish, dressing nice, being well groomed, staying physically fit will all help you and maybe even save some money. Make no mistake though, number one things these girls want is the cash and they are happy 99% of the time to earn the old fashion way haha.

Knowledge
12-08-20, 15:50
Thank you for taking the time to write all that.


If you enjoy an in-person selection where just a hint of "game" can make your overall mongering experience and "session" slightly more enjoyable, then I don't think Parque Lleras can be beat. I have been to Sosua, Santo Domingo, Mexico City, and Cancun. They are all fun and you can score very good looking women for some cash in all places, but Medellin has them all beat and its not up for much debate. I have only been twice and I am not the expert, but here are some things which I think will help in Parque Lleras. For these Comparisons, obviously these are generalizations and use common sense according to the individual you are dealing with. Plenty of low-class scammers no matter which country / city your in.

1. Rates= 200 k anywhere outside Gustos for 1 HR session, 300 k-400 k for multi-hour session. Inside Gusto's 300 k-400 k for 1 HR session, 400 k to 500 k for multi-hour session.

2. Looks of Women= Alot of 7's, some 6's, some 8's, and a few 9's. All are available for the right price. I sessioned with a high 8/ low 9 and it was G. F. E. And good, but my least favorite session. Personally I am more comfortable in the 7-8 range where the girls really try hard to pretend to enjoy being with me, or maybe they do, either way I am much more satisfied haha. People talk of disgusting T-Girls roaming Parque Lleras, but I have spent 8-9 nights there and I have seen none of that or anything lower than a 6. Non-pros are very beautiful and you will catch them giving you "looks" which is strange but awesome. I haven' fucked a non-pro or really tried to hit on them just because the pros give such good service at low prices, its just really unnecessary on a short vacation. I am going to give it a go on my next trip though...

FlowState985
12-08-20, 16:30
If you enjoy an in-person selection where just a hint of "game" can make your overall mongering experience and "session" slightly more enjoyable, then I don't think Parque Lleras can be beat. I have been to Sosua, Santo Domingo, Mexico City, and Cancun. They are all fun and you can score very good looking women for some cash in all places, but Medellin has them all beat and its not up for much debate. I have only been twice and I am not the expert, but here are some things which I think will help in Parque Lleras. For these Comparisons, obviously these are generalizations and use common sense according to the individual you are dealing with. Plenty of low-class scammers no matter which country / city your in.

1. Rates= 200 k anywhere outside Gustos for 1 HR session, 300 k-400 k for multi-hour session. Inside Gusto's 300 k-400 k for 1 HR session, 400 k to 500 k for multi-hour session.

2. Looks of Women= Alot of 7's, some 6's, some 8's, and a few 9's. All are available for the right price. I sessioned with a high 8/ low 9 and it was G. F. E. And good, but my least favorite session. Personally I am more comfortable in the 7-8 range where the girls really try hard to pretend to enjoy being with me, or maybe they do, either way I am much more satisfied haha. People talk of disgusting T-Girls roaming Parque Lleras, but I have spent 8-9 nights there and I have seen none of that or anything lower than a 6. Non-pros are very beautiful and you will catch them giving you "looks" which is strange but awesome. I haven' fucked a non-pro or really tried to hit on them just because the pros give such good service at low prices, its just really unnecessary on a short vacation. I am going to give it a go on my next trip though..Great post. I've been wanting to check out Parque Llerras for a while. Heard good things, but your post makes me want to take the plunge. I normally do casas, fb, and websites like photopp and mileroticos.

Surfer500
12-08-20, 19:00
Hi guys,

I am thinking about booking a flight to Medellin for Dec 26 until after New Year. Anyone know the status of a lockdown or curfew? What about the bars? I had read that the government may impose it but not sure if it's true or not. TIA.Forgetting the Pandemic, the time frame you mentioned for coming to Medellin isn't the greatest as most people are with their families.

Gringo Trooper
12-08-20, 19:54
Forgetting the Pandemic, the time frame you mentioned for coming to Medellin isn't the greatest as most people are with their families.Agree with this statement.

Nevertheless, I plan on heading down to MDE around this time as well. I'll provide a trip report afterwards as well. Fingers crossed.

Mr Enternational
12-08-20, 20:37
I have been the biggest advocate of using SA in Colombia, and I have to say now that you did not need to pay that near $100 a month fee in Colombia. The only exception would be if you are looking for a higher quality woman for a long term relationship who has a real job over someone making a living on her back. I guess you could find that with Facebook, but I think it would be harder.Is it harder on Cupid as well? Because there for the last almost 16 years I have found quality women with real jobs for long term relationships at 1/12 of that price. To me it is like shooting fish in a barrel. Maybe SA is like sitting at a table with a bib around your neck while the cooked fish is sat in front of you.

Dcrist0527
12-08-20, 20:40
Forgetting the Pandemic, the time frame you mentioned for coming to Medellin isn't the greatest as most people are with their families.Thanks, Surfer. Good reminder!

I am looking to travel somewhere during the 2nd week in January. MDE is tops on my list. Just nervous about what may or may not be coming with tightening. For a while, it seemed like a tightening of restrictions was imminent in Colombia. But it's fairly quiet at the moment.

I've worn out Tijuana and I'm looking for a change of pace.

Mr Enternational
12-08-20, 20:43
If you enjoy an in-person selection where just a hint of "game" can make your overall mongering experience and "session" slightly more enjoyable, then I don't think Parque Lleras can be beat. I have been to Sosua, Santo Domingo, Mexico City, and Cancun. They are all fun and you can score very good looking women for some cash in all places, but Medellin has them all beat and its not up for much debate. I have only been twice and I am not the expert,You don't need to be an expert. The fact that you have been to multiple places and are able to make a comparison says a lot. Many guys only go to 1 place and declare it to be the best thing ever without having anything to compare it to.

Knowledge
12-08-20, 23:02
There are many Venezuelans who are not going home for the holidays. Today is when it really hit home for me because a veteran Botero bunny I know told me how many of her compatriots are going to work through the holidays like her. It will be slower but not completely dead. If there is more action wherever anyone is from then yes, I would stay there.


Forgetting the Pandemic, the time frame you mentioned for coming to Medellin isn't the greatest as most people are with their families.

Blakman
12-09-20, 00:31
I notice a casa girl went indepedent from mileroticos. The experience I had with her was damn near pornographic so I was eager to give her a shot. She was 100 k, oral without condom included and at my apartment for 1 hour. I waited for her after excercising watching porn imagining the upcoming experience. Taxi arrives she's at the reception tall nerdy with perfect tits and nice legs. She's friendly. I guess she got over our last encounter in which I refuse to pay in advance. Offered her wine. She tells me don't rush she got me. I trust it but don't trust. My music has her going and she's really aggressive. All in my pants. I stop her and run get my hoodie mask and I tell her I want to video her sucking my dick. She's down puts on the mask and sucking me without a condom. What a start. I get about 15 minutes of video then she says stop. I oblige. She strips and we go fuck. Dick is hard and ready today. Missionary. Its good looking at her pretty skin, nice tits, long legs. Then we go cuatro. Its good but she keeps checking the condom then let me do my thing. She gets on top rides me a bit but she's anxious for me to nut. We go back missionary and I blast off. She takes a shower grabs me to take pics. I take mad pics and video on my camera and send whatsapp. I look at the clock and notice I came in 38 minutes. And spent other time photographing. I complain. She's cool with it. Starts to jerk and suck me. I have porn on for mental back up. Finally I blast off very very loud. She laughs. I am fully satisfied. She ask for taxi. I give her 20 k. Walk her out. I am hungry. Walk to carerra 74 area of laureles. See a pretty chick with a mask. Say hola. Ask for her number. She gives me. I send her a pic and she sends me hers. She is an absolute dime. I am trying to figure out do you go 300 k or more. I am quite sure she's a pro even though she can be a non pro.

Rextor
12-09-20, 00:58
I am hungry. Walk to carerra 74 area of laureles. See a pretty chick with a mask. Say hola. Ask for her number. She gives me. I send her a pic and she sends me hers. She is an absolute dime. I am trying to figure out do you go 300 k or more. I am quite sure she's a pro even though she can be a non pro.Can I ask, how exactly did this go down? Like, you just saw her, went up to her, and straight up asked for her number? I believe your spanish isn't great so what sorts of things did you even say to her to break the ice?

JjBee62
12-09-20, 01:02
I notice a casa girl went indepedent from mileroticos. The experience I had with her was damn near pornographic so I was eager to give her a shot. She was 100 k, oral without condom included and at my apartment for 1 hour. I waited for her after excercising watching porn imagining the upcoming experience. Taxi arrives she's at the reception tall nerdy with perfect tits and nice legs. She's friendly. I guess she got over our last encounter in which I refuse to pay in advance. Offered her wine. She tells me don't rush she got me. I trust it but don't trust. My music has her going and she's really aggressive. All in my pants. I stop her and run get my hoodie mask and I tell her I want to video her sucking my dick. She's down puts on the mask and sucking me without a condom. What a start. I get about 15 minutes of video then she says stop. I oblige. She strips and we go fuck. Dick is hard and ready today. Missionary. Its good looking at her pretty skin, nice tits, long legs. Then we go cuatro. Its good but she keeps checking the condom then let me do my thing. She gets on top rides me a bit but she's anxious for me to nut. We go back missionary and I blast off. She takes a shower grabs me to take pics. I take mad pics and video on my camera and send whatsapp. I look at the clock and notice I came in 38 minutes. And spent other time photographing. I complain. She's cool with it. Starts to jerk and suck me. I have porn on for mental back up. Finally I blast off very very loud. She laughs. I am fully satisfied. She ask for taxi. I give her 20 k. Walk her out. I am hungry. Walk to carerra 74 area of laureles. See a pretty chick with a mask. Say hola. Ask for her number. She gives me. I send her a pic and she sends me hers. She is an absolute dime. I am trying to figure out do you go 300 k or more. I am quite sure she's a pro even though she can be a non pro.My advice is you don't bring up the subject of money directly, unless she does. Instead you send a couple of simple, safe compliments. Something along the line of "you have beautiful eyes" rather than "I'd like to drown you in cum."

Then I'd tell her "Quiero conocerte" and see where she goes from there. If she's not a pro, she might put the brakes on, or try to get to know you through lots of questions. If she's a pro, she'll jump on the chance. If she's enthusiastic about coming to see you, a simple "que quieres cuando me visitas" (what do you want when you visit me) should bring up the mention of money, either directly or indirectly. Indirectly might be "necesito pagar mis servicios" or a mention of Christmas or her need to buy her "estren." It's traditional and thought to bring good things if a Colombian has an entirely new outfit for Christmas, call the "estren."

Once it's obvious she'll accept cash, ask her "Cuanto necesitas. " That's a gentler way of saying "how much are you selling your pussy for. " Then you find her comfort zone. If she starts talking big numbers, throw down my trademarked response, "Siempre pago" followed by something more reasonable. Maybe lead it with a "lo siento. " Then tag a "pero te entiendo, eres muy hermosa" at the end. "I'm sorry. I always pay (fill in the blank), but I understand you, you are very beautiful."

That should bring the price pretty close. Toss in a bit for taxi and you're probably on the way to another primal scream orgasm.

Blakman
12-09-20, 01:17
In additional, I was looking like a young hot shot in my neon shirt and 15% body fat LOL. I think she said let me give him a shot. But the return pic looks absolutely hot like she's really trying to get my financial attention. Told her I was getting something to eat chat later or another time. Translator bro. Don't listen to these nitwits that preach how spanish is so important. LOL


Can I ask, how exactly did this go down? Like, you just saw her, went up to her, and straight up asked for her number? I believe your spanish isn't great so what sorts of things did you even say to her to break the ice?.

PussyRiot
12-09-20, 02:39
I waited for her after excercising watching porn imagining the upcoming experience. I have porn on for mental back up. Kkkkk, thanks for the laugh.

Elvis 2008
12-09-20, 02:57
Well said yet what do I do with the non-pro 10's I collected on SA. Elvis? Because I doubt I'll find them anywhere else. That is a nice problem to have right DC? LOL. You did it up right my man.

I was thinking about what we are looking for, and I decided there were like 4 stages. You have level 4 which is the scumbag level. Guys who do not pay for sex and take it or women who screw out of money and give nothing in return. You have level 1 which is marriage level type where men do not care how much the women take and women give themselves up sexually out of love.

Stage 3 is straight pay for sex. Stage 2 is where there is the basis for something outside of just the exchange of money for sex, and that is where you run into the FWB, sugar baby, GF types. One of the things Mr. E opened my eyes to is that it does not even have to be money. The problem with me is that I thought because I could not get that in the sex prison, it would be like that anywhere, and it is not.

The easier terms are: stage 1 are wife types, 2 are sugar babies / GFs, 3 are hookers, and 4 are teases.

When I was in Bogota, I saw three women from SA: a stage 2, a stage 4, and a stage 3 that I thought could be stage 2 but I decided later really was not. Then I saw the girl that I have a stage 1 relationship I met from SA long ago, and she lives in Medellin.

SA bills itself as stage 2 material but we all know that it is full of stage 3 and 4 women. Thing is that I have met stage 1 quality women from there. They are rare but they are there. I just do not think that is what most guys are going for. Most guys here probably want stage 3 or to a lesser degree stage 2.

If you look at the USA, most strippers are teases, stage 4 but occasionally you can get them to stage 3 hookers, and I have had a great time with that. Strippers make great hookers but getting them to the stage 2 sugar baby level was a disaster, and I assume, and I think wrongly that you could not convert a stage 3 woman into a stage 2 type women in other countries.

So DC, I had been in contact with a hooker and stripper in Colombia, and these were the two best women I had found from a sexual point of view, but they also seemed to have an air about them that separated them from the typical quick buck hooker types. When I invested more time and a little more money into them, there was a very positive response. My iron clad rule about not turning hookers / strippers into SBs may not be true in Colombia and if so, I am not sure what role SA has then outside of finding that rare level 1 type.

Thing when I say stuff like this is and it makes it seem like I am a push over. I have been with dozens in Santa Fe and strip clubs, maybe more, and these two were the only two where I even considered advancing to a stage 2. On top of that, I am always looking to upgrade my level 2 relationships, and that means cutting myself off from women time and money wise even if there are hard feelings, and I cut off three potential SBs this trip. Two of the women did not take it well.

Gringo Trooper
12-09-20, 03:00
Well how about a universal hola como estas?Well done, this is absolutely realistic for someone who can run street game, which BM has. She looks like a winner.

Similar thing happened to me in Cartagena, a girl walked into McDonalds's (megaculona) and was a hard 8 or 9 in my opinion.

I didn't know she was a pro when I met her (until realizing it much later). Actually, she had a gringo boyfriend living in Germany, who also had no idea that she was a pro.

Long story short, I got her for free 99. Only bad part was I had to wait at McDonalds all day, to wait for her Whatsapp text because my hotel didn't have working WiFi.

It was worth it though, one of the few times a girl left me with that dizzy feeling after bagging your ideal type of girl.

Elvis 2008
12-09-20, 03:30
Is it harder on Cupid as well? Because there for the last almost 16 years I have found quality women with real jobs for long term relationships at 1/12 of that price. To me it is like shooting fish in a barrel. Maybe SA is like sitting at a table with a bib around your neck while the cooked fish is sat in front of you.It is funny you bring that up Mr. E. So the three women I met from SA on the trip were 9's and 10's right? The first two were models in the five foot 9, 120 pound range with looong legs. When I went on Cupid, I saw nothing like that, and I think Cupid is where you look for the stage 1 wife type material.

So one of them is a tease, but the other fucked the shit out of me, and not only is she gorgeous she really likes me. She walks in the room and everyone is going to stare, and I got to know her body really well.

My Medellin wife type is not like that. She is short, compact, and more cute than hot. Thing is I like her body more to the touch. She is short, stronger with nicer skin. I also like the way she fucks more even though both are really good in bed. Even though I met her on SA, looks wise, I think you can find her type on Colombian cupid.

So I think what you get on SA you are not going to get on CC are the 10 hot model types. I have had three beauty queens from SA.

Thing is that it is not the exclusive refuge of hot women. On my trip I think the woman with the hottest body was Alejandra who works in the Paradise hotel across from La Piscina in Santa Fe from noon to 6 PM. I call her the chocolate bunny. She is as sweet as can be, gives a great massage, and she is built like a Jamaican track star. She is feminine with no body fat and is strong.

When I looked at CC, I saw 30 ish MILF types where some were cute. SA is the more refined and attractive 20 somethings looking for bigger $. The SA women may be more in demand from society but I would not call them better women.

Also, I thought the response rate from SA was better than CC. CC was overrun by Nigerian type scammers. It was pretty easy to figure them out which were legit women and which ones were not.

SA was just easier. The way I looked at it with SA, you pay with money. With CC, you pay with time.

Knowledge
12-09-20, 03:31
Blakshot, I recognize the format of this post plus photos.


I notice a casa girl went indepedent from mileroticos. The experience I had with her was damn near pornographic so I was eager to give her a shot. She was 100 k, oral without condom included and at my apartment for 1 hour. I waited for her after excercising watching porn imagining the upcoming experience. Taxi arrives she's at the reception tall nerdy with perfect tits and nice legs. She's friendly. I guess she got over our last encounter in which I refuse to pay in advance. Offered her wine. She tells me don't rush she got me. I trust it but don't trust. My music has her going and she's really aggressive. All in my pants. I stop her and run get my hoodie mask and I tell her I want to video her sucking my dick. She's down puts on the mask and sucking me without a condom. What a start. I get about 15 minutes of video then she says stop. I oblige. She strips and we go fuck. Dick is hard and ready today. Missionary. Its good looking at her pretty skin, nice tits, long legs. Then we go cuatro. Its good but she keeps checking the condom then let me do my thing. She gets on top rides me a bit but she's anxious for me to nut. We go back missionary and I blast off. She takes a shower grabs me to take pics. I take mad pics and video on my camera and send whatsapp. I look at the clock and notice I came in 38 minutes. And spent other time photographing. I complain. She's cool with it. Starts to jerk and suck me. I have porn on for mental back up. Finally I blast off very very loud. She laughs. I am fully satisfied. She ask for taxi. I give her 20 k. Walk her out. I am hungry. Walk to carerra 74 area of laureles. See a pretty chick with a mask. Say hola. Ask for her number. She gives me. I send her a pic and she sends me hers. She is an absolute dime. I am trying to figure out do you go 300 k or more. I am quite sure she's a pro even though she can be a non pro.

Blakman
12-09-20, 07:41
Well truth be told I was texting with my brother about her and sent her the message. I was on the road so don't know if lack of wifi deleted the message in time. I text her if she spoke english but she did not respond for the night. That could be due to she did not like the indirect text message or she's occupied wit boyfriend or clients. But no sweat off my back if she doesn't respond. Gusto this weekend. By the way Jjbee i did get many videos from the indepedent girl and gave her a 10k total 20k taxi. Thats how you pay for videos. When the b*tch is in front of you live. Not when your fucking cross country with nothing to gain but jerking off on videos. Lmao


My advice is you don't bring up the subject of money directly, unless she does. Instead you send a couple of simple, safe compliments. Something along the line of "you have beautiful eyes" rather than "I'd like to drown you in cum."

Then I'd tell her "Quiero conocerte" and see where she goes from there. If she's not a pro, she might put the brakes on, or try to get to know you through lots of questions. If she's a pro, she'll jump on the chance. If she's enthusiastic about coming to see you, a simple "que quieres cuando me visitas" (what do you want when you visit me) should bring up the mention of money, either directly or indirectly. Indirectly might be "necesito pagar mis servicios" or a mention of Christmas or her need to buy her "estren." It's traditional and thought to bring good things if a Colombian has an entirely new outfit for Christmas, call the "estren."

Once it's obvious she'll accept cash, ask her "Cuanto necesitas. " That's a gentler way of saying "how much are you selling your pussy for. " Then you find her comfort zone. If she starts talking big numbers, throw down my trademarked response, "Siempre pago" followed by something more reasonable. Maybe lead it with a "lo siento. " Then tag a "pero te entiendo, eres muy hermosa" at the end. "I'm sorry. I always pay (fill in the blank), but I understand you, you are very beautiful."

That should bring the price pretty close. Toss in a bit for taxi and you're probably on the way to another primal scream orgasm..

Chicafan
12-09-20, 14:43
Heading down for the week. I normally don't do casas often but the one grungy casa I do frequent lost a couple of girls I like and I don't know how to find them. Otherwise I would not go to this particular casa. They wpp'd fotos of their current lineup and I am not interested.

So, if you have been to any casas and thought the lineup was good I would appreciate the casa name, and if you have it handy, the address as well.

I guess I'll see if Energy is open. I'm drawing a blank on the other reputable spots.

TIA.

Blakman
12-09-20, 15:21
I am totally lost. What are you trying to say. Be clear precise.


Blakshot, I recognize the format of this post plus photos..

Blakman
12-09-20, 15:23
I cannot say she's a dime cause she needs to be a taller. But sure 7. Anyway she accepted 200 with ease. Ask for 20 taxi. We are now fussing over one leche versus 2 leche LOL. I am gonna put her off for bout 2 hrs. Besides my dick aint talking to me like yesterday. Man you young guys got it good. Shes ready. Pleading her case for one leche. I am pleading mines. Eventually if i do not lose her interest i will cave in. But i am in no rush. Lets see how it plays out.

Blakman
12-09-20, 15:31
The dime looks much better than her. Unless the 3 puffs hour ago mess with my judgement. But the picture she sent me was stunning.


Well done, this is absolutely realistic for someone who can run street game, which BM has. She looks like a winner.

Similar thing happened to me in Cartagena, a girl walked into McDonalds's (megaculona) and was a hard 8 or 9 in my opinion.

I didn't know she was a pro when I met her (until realizing it much later). Actually, she had a gringo boyfriend living in Germany, who also had no idea that she was a pro.

Long story short, I got her for free 99. Only bad part was I had to wait at McDonalds all day, to wait for her Whatsapp text because my hotel didn't have working WiFi.

It was worth it though, one of the few times a girl left me with that dizzy feeling after bagging your ideal type of girl..

FlowState985
12-09-20, 16:26
Heading down for the week. I normally don't do casas often but the one grungy casa I do frequent lost a couple of girls I like and I don't know how to find them. Otherwise I would not go to this particular casa. They wpp'd fotos of their current lineup and I am not interested.

So, if you have been to any casas and thought the lineup was good I would appreciate the casa name, and if you have it handy, the address as well.

I guess I'll see if Energy is open. I'm drawing a blank on the other reputable spots.

TIA.I've been here a week and most of the places I go to are casas. It is just more convenient. I want, you go, you do your thing and you leave.

I like New Life setup, it is located in El Centro. Once you go in, mamasan tell you how it works then bring in the girls for you to view, she also speak English. Girls come in fast, so get the names of the girl you like, then pick the best one. It is pay as you go and prices are listed on the wall.

The second casa that I've been using consistently is Eros Spa. They are located in west side of Laureles. I use them often because it is like 3 block from where I stay. You will easily find them on Mileroticos website. You can either whatsapp mamasan, and she gives you full menu of the girls or you can check out mileroticos and see each girl for yourself. Price is usually 60 mil + 10 mil for room, so they bundled in 70 mil standard price for one hour.

I have not try Energy yet. I might do it later this week and see how it goes. It is open, just not sure of the quality.

Knowledge
12-09-20, 19:46
You adopted the Slapshot posting format, perhaps without even realizing it. I suppose that means Slapshot is highly influential even beyond Tindr and facebook.


I am totally lost. What are you trying to say. Be clear precise..

Blakman
12-09-20, 20:27
Still not quite following. You know I am a little slow. Yellow bus type. Get right to the point clearly.


You adopted the Slapshot posting format, perhaps without even realizing it. I suppose that means Slapshot is highly influential even beyond Tindr and facebook..

Knowledge
12-09-20, 20:31
Your post resembled a Slapshot post in format and content, right down to the pose of the girl. Only the jacuzzi is missing, a minor difference.

Switching gears, when will we see a Centro casa report from you? I happen to know there is a chocolate girl who may strike your fancy at Aiffe.


Still not quite following. You know I am a little slow. Yellow bus type. Get right to the point clearly..

Njoean197
12-09-20, 21:43
It is funny you bring that up Mr. E. So the three women I met from SA on the trip were 9's and 10's right? The first two were models in the five foot 9, 120 pound range with looong legs. When I went on Cupid, I saw nothing like that, and I think Cupid is where you look for the stage 1 wife type material.

So one of them is a tease, but the other fucked the shit out of me, and not only is she gorgeous she really likes me. She walks in the room and everyone is going to stare, and I got to know her body really well.

My Medellin wife type is not like that. She is short, compact, and more cute than hot. Thing is I like her body more to the touch. She is short, stronger with nicer skin. I also like the way she fucks more even though both are really good in bed. Even though I met her on SA, looks wise, I think you can find her type on Colombian cupid.

So I think what you get on SA you are not going to get on CC are the 10 hot model types. I have had three beauty queens from SA.

Thing is that it is not the exclusive refuge of hot women. On my trip I think the woman with the hottest body was Alejandra who works in the Paradise hotel across from La Piscina in Santa Fe from noon to 6 PM. I call her the chocolate bunny. She is as sweet as can be, gives a great massage, and she is built like a Jamaican track star. She is feminine with no body fat and is strong.

When I looked at CC, I saw 30 ish MILF types where some were cute. SA is the more refined and attractive 20 somethings looking for bigger $. The SA women may be more in demand from society but I would not call them better women.

Also, I thought the response rate from SA was better than CC. CC was overrun by Nigerian type scammers. It was pretty easy to figure them out which were legit women and which ones were not.

SA was just easier. The way I looked at it with SA, you pay with money. With CC, you pay with time.First of all I feel you with the Jamaican track body. The best fuck of my life was a similar type of girl in Faison, the late night strip club in Medellin. I still whack off once a week thinking about it. Anyway I tried SA for two weeks before my Medellin trip. I didn't like how its such a fucking game, you message a girl you know is dying to fuck you for some cash, but she still has to take 3 fuckin hours to message one time back. It takes 5 days just to get a feel for a girl and then you need to worry about if the girl is going to possibly stand you up and waste precious vacation time. To meet a great quality woman who is young, gorgeous, and treats you like a king, paying the price of SA is worth it. The problem is, its just as easy to hit Parque Lleras up and skip all that be. S. And get something close to as good as that. I have never met up with a girl from SA in Colombia, but I have met several in Mexico and they were all cool and enjoyable. My main point is this- in Medellin its just soooooo much easier to just roll into Parque Lleras and meet the girl you want in person. Either way, you are paying for it. Now I will admit that all the girls I met in Parque Lleras were straight working girls and they were fun, but because your paying for it, its always going to be slightly less enjoyable than if you had fucked them for free and they were with you 100% for you and not your cash. Does SA create more of an illusion that the relationship is based on mutual attraction without the financial component thus making the overall experience more enjoyable? I think it does and that is based off my experience with using SA in Mexico. But are SA relationships so much more enjoyable to offset the hassle, money, and possible time wasted compared to the convenience of Parque Lleras and other similar locations in Medellin, my personal opinion is no. In Mexico City, I think SA isn't just preferred, its necessary for maximum enjoyment, but Medellin is different. Your in person options in Medellin are abundant to the point where SA becomes more of a hassle than its worth.

I am also not the expert here and I am basing this off limited experience. So if anyone who has used SA in Medellin for an extended period of time wants to comment on how they feel about it, please do. I did message back and forth with some gorgeous latinas. Especially a 39 year old goddess gym MILF who looks like a porn star. We still message actually and I may try to arrange something with her when I return. Regardless I am curious to hear about how other people feel about SA in Medellin. Variety is essential in our game and if I can use a different platform to meet 10's that don't flake and provide excellent G. F. E. Sessions, then I definitely don't want to rule it out, especially on a longer trip. As for right now, on shorter trips and if money is a concern, SA is not worth a $100 USD monthly fee. 100 USD is getting you a super fine piece of ass in Medellin, that I know is 100% fact haha.

SlapShot10
12-09-20, 23:10
I am totally lost. What are you trying to say. Be clear precise.

.Blankstareman, come on, brotha. It's not that hard. Your standard review / post usually commends yourself for unsubstantiated negotiating, then showcases the menu del dia, and finally, finishes with a loud roar. I was feeling tingly inside when I saw a couple photos. I had to scroll back up to double-check it was your post. Knowledge knows what I'm talking about!


I cannot say she's a dime cause she needs to be a taller. But sure 7. Anyway she accepted 200 with ease. Ask for 20 taxi. We are now fussing over one leche versus 2 leche LOL. I am gonna put her off for bout 2 hrs. Besides my dick aint talking to me like yesterday. Man you young guys got it good. Shes ready. Pleading her case for one leche. I am pleading mines. Eventually if i do not lose her interest i will cave in. But i am in no rush. Lets see how it plays out.


The dime looks much better than her. Unless the 3 puffs hour ago mess with my judgement. But the picture she sent me was stunning.

.BlakmanselAdams, photos or it never happened (Popcorn enters stage left). As far as photos of / from Paisas, don't get me started. We could play a game some time of photo vs reality, like Guess Who? and we'd probably be at 50/50 when it comes to some of these chicks and their filters, angles, lighting, etc. I've become pretty decent and red-flagging the Tinder pics. Anyway, I hope she's as good or better than your first impression. You sold yourself out with the 200k if she took it without a fight. Finally, a win for the good girls!

Surfer500
12-10-20, 00:26
Blankstareman, come on, brotha. It's not that hard. Your standard review / post usually commends yourself for unsubstantiated negotiating, then showcases the menu del dia, and finally, finishes with a loud roar. I was feeling tingly inside when I saw a couple photos. I had to scroll back up to double-check it was your post. Knowledge knows what I'm talking about! Poor Blakman, taking flak from all sides, maybe we need to let up on him for a while so he can come up for air.

You have to hand it to him though, he's like a Swiss watch, he can take a pounding, yet still keep ticking.

Blakman
12-10-20, 00:38
The meeting has been arranged. Overpriced at 225 k including taxi, oral no condom, 2 hrs, 1 leche. She smokes weed so I took taxi through the hood of centro for a blunt which was undersize. What lifestyle am I getting myself into. She like the vibrator and massage ideal so everything looks like its on schedule to be a great time. Her finally text was I cannot wait til tomorrow. I know she purposely left out and to get that 225 k. My centro rendevous. I chose a pretty 20 year old. Younger than I normally choose, but petite and pretty was the checklist. I firmly said premier plaza and 30 k. She said ok. I didn't have my identification so she used hers. She ask for the money first. My dumbass gave it to her. She took off her clothes and look nice. I gave her a hug but no feedback. I sat on the bed suck her titties and some feedback. Put on the condom and doggy. She's moaning and thoughts came to me I could be wrong about her. Still doggying and she still moaning. I might even gotten an orgasm out of her. She gets on top and good ride. Definitely legitimate moans. All is well when I am about to go missionary she says you been along time plus you too big bullshit. More money more money. I look at my watch point to it. Honestly I think only like 10 15 minutes max went by. Anyways I say lets do missionary I will leche. The thing is the pussy is good and she trying to short change me with time. I see if it was bad. Anyways I try my darndest to nut and I can't. She's complaining a little. I say stroke me off. She tries. Finally I have her help me to get myself off. She gets dress and pleasantly say by had a good time. Yeah you did. You got me for 10 minutes LOL. Anyhow she leaves and all I can think about premiere plaza steaming hot shower. But the lady says I have to leave with the girl cause her ID. So I get dress slowly. Pay back on the *****. When I get out the room she's gone so I ask the lady can I shower and she says yes. I took my clothes off so quickly and blasted the hot water. I can't understand why they rush out and not take a hot shower. I stayed in that bad boy for like 15 minutes. It was like healing water. I could careless about what happen with me and the chica. I was get united states hot water at premier plaza. So finally I left, got in a taxi said I need weed and we went hardcore hood centro. Then he showed me slapdruggy stuff, I said no and made it home safely.

JohnnyO
12-10-20, 01:32
The meeting has been arranged. Overpriced at 225 k including taxi, oral no condom, 2 hrs, 1 leche. She smokes weed so I took taxi through the hood of centro for a blunt which was undersize. What lifestyle am I getting myself into. She like the vibrator and massage ideal so everything looks like its on schedule to be a great time. Her finally text was I cannot wait til tomorrow. I know she purposely left out and to get that 225 k. My centro rendevous. I chose a pretty 20 year old. Younger than I normally choose, but petite and pretty was the checklist. I firmly said premier plaza and 30 k. She said ok. I didn't have my identification so she used hers. She ask for the money first. My dumbass gave it to her. She took off her clothes and look nice. I gave her a hug but no feedback. I sat on the bed suck her titties and some feedback. Put on the condom and doggy. She's moaning and thoughts came to me I could be wrong about her. Still doggying and she still moaning. I might even gotten an orgasm out of her. She gets on top and good ride. Definitely legitimate moans. All is well when I am about to go missionary she says you been along time plus you too big bullshit. More money more money. I look at my watch point to it. Honestly I think only like 10 15 minutes max went by. Anyways I say lets do missionary I will leche. The thing is the pussy is good and she trying to short change me with time. I see if it was bad. Anyways I try my darndest to nut and I can't. She's complaining a little. I say stroke me off. She tries. Finally I have her help me to get myself off. She gets dress and pleasantly say by had a good time. Yeah you did. You got me for 10 minutes LOL. Anyhow she leaves and all I can think about premiere plaza steaming hot shower. But the lady says I have to leave with the girl cause her ID. So I get dress slowly. Pay back on the *****. When I get out the room she's gone so I ask the lady can I shower and she says yes. I took my clothes off so quickly and blasted the hot water. I can't understand why they rush out and not take a hot shower. I stayed in that bad boy for like 15 minutes. It was like healing water. I could careless about what happen with me and the chica. I was get united states hot water at premier plaza. So finally I left, got in a taxi said I need weed and we went hardcore hood centro. Then he showed me slapdruggy stuff, I said no and made it home safely.Your report style is bizarre, funny, amusing, intriguing, unique, addictive and straight up original. How much are you normally paying for the room at plaza and is it by the hour or 30 minutes or what's the deal? Also how often are you paying these centro hookers up front or is it not something you normally do? I really hate paying girls upfront and I have at times just called the deal off if they insist because then they hold all the cards, they've already been paid so they've no incentive to perform or stick around.

Surfer500
12-10-20, 02:27
The meeting has been arranged. Overpriced at 225 k including taxi, oral no condom, 2 hrs, 1 leche. She smokes weed so I took taxi through the hood of centro for a blunt which was undersize. What lifestyle am I getting myself into. She like the vibrator and massage ideal so everything looks like its on schedule to be a great time. Her finally text was I cannot wait til tomorrow. I know she purposely left out and to get that 225 k. My centro rendevous. I chose a pretty 20 year old. Younger than I normally choose, but petite and pretty was the checklist. I firmly said premier plaza and 30 k. She said ok. I didn't have my identification so she used hers. She ask for the money first. My dumbass gave it to her. She took off her clothes and look nice. I gave her a hug but no feedback. I sat on the bed suck her titties and some feedback. Put on the condom and doggy. She's moaning and thoughts came to me I could be wrong about her. Still doggying and she still moaning. I might even gotten an orgasm out of her. She gets on top and good ride. Definitely legitimate moans. All is well when I am about to go missionary she says you been along time plus you too big bullshit. More money more money. I look at my watch point to it. Honestly I think only like 10 15 minutes max went by. Anyways I say lets do missionary I will leche. The thing is the pussy is good and she trying to short change me with time. I see if it was bad. Anyways I try my darndest to nut and I can't. She's complaining a little. I say stroke me off. She tries. Finally I have her help me to get myself off. She gets dress and pleasantly say by had a good time. Yeah you did. You got me for 10 minutes LOL. Anyhow she leaves and all I can think about premiere plaza steaming hot shower. But the lady says I have to leave with the girl cause her ID. So I get dress slowly. Pay back on the *****. When I get out the room she's gone so I ask the lady can I shower and she says yes. I took my clothes off so quickly and blasted the hot water. I can't understand why they rush out and not take a hot shower. I stayed in that bad boy for like 15 minutes. It was like healing water. I could careless about what happen with me and the chica. I was get united states hot water at premier plaza. So finally I left, got in a taxi said I need weed and we went hardcore hood centro. Then he showed me slapdruggy stuff, I said no and made it home safely.Well you admitted to making a major rookie mistake in that you paid the girl first, and I will take the blame for this on your behalf, in that you appear to have followed some of my insiders tips, however I failed to mention that besides telling them what you will pay you also need to tell them that you always pay afterwards before going upstairs with them. In Spanish you can just say "yo siempre pago despues" . If they refuse this beforehand, than don't bother going with them or your setting yourself up for, hurry up and leche, more money, and oh you so big which happened to you.

There are a lot of pitfalls in dealing with the El Centro girls, and I have been thru my share of them, and I give you credit for posting what happened to you as you may be chastised by others on this. But 30 K is not going to break you!

Also, and this is just a personal thing, I don't focus on the really pretty girls when I am there, as they know lots of guys want this, however I am more focused on their bodies.

Maybe consider going with one that appears to have a killer body versus one with a pretty face as well.

You might be surprised as to what happens.

Knowledge
12-10-20, 03:24
Blackscammed, you paid her up front, in Centro? Real talk, you are lucky you got the session you described. The girls have zero incentive to give any quality service once they are paid. Anyway, I am glad you made the most of the situation. I am guessing you bought weed at Parque Boston. Good play passing on the tusi.


The meeting has been arranged. Overpriced at 225 k including taxi, oral no condom, 2 hrs, 1 leche. She smokes weed so I took taxi through the hood of centro for a blunt which was undersize. What lifestyle am I getting myself into. She like the vibrator and massage ideal so everything looks like its on schedule to be a great time. Her finally text was I cannot wait til tomorrow. I know she purposely left out and to get that 225 k. My centro rendevous. I chose a pretty 20 year old. Younger than I normally choose, but petite and pretty was the checklist. I firmly said premier plaza and 30 k. She said ok. I didn't have my identification so she used hers. She ask for the money first. My dumbass gave it to her. She took off her clothes and look nice. I gave her a hug but no feedback. I sat on the bed suck her titties and some feedback. Put on the condom and doggy. She's moaning and thoughts came to me I could be wrong about her. Still doggying and she still moaning. I might even gotten an orgasm out of her. She gets on top and good ride. Definitely legitimate moans. All is well when I am about to go missionary she says you been along time plus you too big bullshit. More money more money. I look at my watch point to it. Honestly I think only like 10 15 minutes max went by. Anyways I say lets do missionary I will leche..

MiamiBoy1
12-10-20, 04:02
Regardless I am curious to hear about how other people feel about SA in Medellin. Variety is essential in our game and if I can use a different platform to meet 10's that don't flake and provide excellent G. F. E. Sessions, then I definitely don't want to rule it out, especially on a longer trip. As for right now, on shorter trips and if money is a concern, SA is not worth a $100 USD monthly fee. 100 USD is getting you a super fine piece of ass in Medellin, that I know is 100% fact haha.I think it is easier for those who do not speak Spanish to utilize SA rather than approach girls at Parque Lleras and as mentioned previously, SA takes way less time to sort the girls out and book appointments than FB. You just set up a profile, pay membership and send generic messages to the ones you like. I always try to get their WhatsApp number first and then move there. I also tell them right away that I don't like back and forth texting and prefer meetings in person, that saves a lot of my time. If you a going there for a month, which in my opinion is ideal length of any trip, SA would cost you about $3 a day. And monthly AirBnbs are 30-50% cheaper, flights are usually cheaper too (especially on cost per day basis). There is a good chance of finding a non-pro who just joined, Steve wrote about in the SA thread.

Knowledge
12-10-20, 04:18
Everyone's situation is different. I personally find the concept of paying a subscription fee to meet women in Medellin utterly surreal. Even if there were not several free online sources for that kind of content it is just so easy to meet them anywhere and everywhere.


I think it is easier for those who do not speak Spanish to utilize SA rather than approach girls at Parque Lleras and as mentioned previously, SA takes way less time to sort the girls out and book appointments than FB. You just set up a profile, pay membership and send generic messages to the ones you like. I always try to get their WhatsApp number first and then move there. I also tell them right away that I don't like back and forth texting and prefer meetings in person, that saves a lot of my time. If you a going there for a month, which in my opinion is ideal length of any trip, SA would cost you about $3 a day. And monthly AirBnbs are 30-50% cheaper, flights are usually cheaper too (especially on cost per day basis). There is a good chance of finding a non-pro who just joined, Steve wrote about in the SA thread.

JjBee62
12-10-20, 04:39
Your report style is bizarre, funny, amusing, intriguing, unique, addictive and straight up original. How much are you normally paying for the room at plaza and is it by the hour or 30 minutes or what's the deal? Also how often are you paying these centro hookers up front or is it not something you normally do? I really hate paying girls upfront and I have at times just called the deal off if they insist because then they hold all the cards, they've already been paid so they've no incentive to perform or stick around.The standard advice for Colombia is, if she demands payment up front, walk away. The exceptions are the casas and strip clubs which require payment in advance.

I've yet to run into that issue, but it's happened to others.

JjBee62
12-10-20, 04:50
Well you admitted to making a major rookie mistake in that you paid the girl first, and I will take the blame for this on your behalf, in that you appear to have followed some of my insiders tips, however I failed to mention that besides telling them what you will pay you also need to tell them that you always pay afterwards before going upstairs with them. In Spanish you can just say "yo siempre pago despues" . If they refuse this beforehand, than don't bother going with them or your setting yourself up for, hurry up and leche, more money, and oh you so big which happened to you.

There are a lot of pitfalls in dealing with the El Centro girls, and I have been thru my share of them, and I give you credit for posting what happened to you as you may be chastised by others on this. But 30 K is not going to break you!

Also, and this is just a personal thing, I don't focus on the really pretty girls when I am there, as they know lots of guys want this, however I am more focused on their bodies.

Maybe consider going with one that appears to have a killer body versus one with a pretty face as well.

You might be surprised as to what happens.My method with casa or strip club girls is to look for the attitude first. As you noted, the best looking girls know they are getting as many customers as they want. Why wear themselves out on one guy?

However, there's usually a more average looking girl who knows she has to bring her best effort if she wants the repeat customers.

Almost every casa lineup I've sat through, the best looking girls look bored. Meanwhile the girls with the attitude have never disappointed me.

DonCarlos1234
12-10-20, 04:52
That is a nice problem to have right DC? LOL. You did it up right my man.

When I invested more time and a little more money into them, there was a very positive response. My iron clad rule about not turning hookers / strippers into SBs may not be true in Colombia and if so, I am not sure what role SA has then outside of finding that rare level 1 type.

Thing when I say stuff like this is and it makes it seem like I am a push over. I have been with dozens in Santa Fe and strip clubs, maybe more, and these two were the only two where I even considered advancing to a stage 2. On top of that, I am always looking to upgrade my level 2 relationships, and that means cutting myself off from women time and money wise even if there are hard feelings, and I cut off three potential SBs this trip. Two of the women did not take it well.All the intellectual banter & ratings aside. REAL available Colombian women (not the hookers) close to 1/2 of the Seeking girls. Challenge any pre-existing thinking we bring with us from the USA. I try to explain the difference to my brainwashed friends. When they see photos of the girls I am seeing here. They think it's not possible. When I tell them their actual professional backgrounds or that they are students of law, engineers, stewardesses, models etc. They go into denial. Finlay when I mention they want relationships above money and are financially secure and want someone to respect them at their level. That is far beyond almost anyone in Sex Prisons comprehension. LOL Even here on this "mongering" list. So give up all that false logic and enjoy. Find your #1's & 2's. 9's & 10's The path may be tough, the rewards exceptional.

Njoean197
12-10-20, 05:32
I think it is easier for those who do not speak Spanish to utilize SA rather than approach girls at Parque Lleras and as mentioned previously, SA takes way less time to sort the girls out and book appointments than FB. You just set up a profile, pay membership and send generic messages to the ones you like. I always try to get their WhatsApp number first and then move there. I also tell them right away that I don't like back and forth texting and prefer meetings in person, that saves a lot of my time. If you a going there for a month, which in my opinion is ideal length of any trip, SA would cost you about $3 a day. And monthly AirBnbs are 30-50% cheaper, flights are usually cheaper too (especially on cost per day basis). There is a good chance of finding a non-pro who just joined, Steve wrote about in the SA thread.My Spanish is embarrassingly bad. I have completed 3 months /90 lessons on Pimsleur. I know some basic words, phrases, and greetings. Thats it. These girls could care less about your Spanish in Parque Lleras. If you present yourself like they are lucky to get a nice payday with you, your going to get what you want. I have seen guys clearing pushing 60 and not in great shape even for their age dancing and drinking with smoke shows in Medellin. Especially in Gustos.

I can definitely see value in SA if your staying a month. I too noticed you need to cut the bullshit on SA and just be forward with what you want and exchange numbers ASAP. I saw a poster stated that half the girls on SA are non-pros. I just find that hard to believe. Like I said, I never fucked a girl from SA in Medellin so I can't speak from experience and I think we all know you can bang way hotter non-pro girls in Medellin than you ever could in USA, but to state that half of them are non-pros on SA just seems really hard to believe. I could see half them blurring the line between semi-pro and non-pro, but if a woman signs up for SA, its not because she is looking for dick, I am pretty sure Colombian guys have that, its because they want a cock that also comes with some form of cash. Hey maybe I am wrong, I was blown away when I realized my privileged life in the USA could score me gorgeous women in Latin America so maybe it is true. I am returning late December-early January for a longer trip and I can assure this forum that I have no shame whatsoever and I will be trying to fuck every woman I meet in Medellin. I think if I decide to stay longer than two weeks, which is possible, then I m going to give SA another shot. If anything its fun to creep on the hot latinas on the website haha.

Blakman
12-10-20, 05:47
Sometimes I am shock you consider yourself a veteran at Centro. The entire situation cost me 46 mil pesos including hotel. Thats $13. What happens in Centro means nothing as long as you walk out alive. Its like your not paying anything. Like a young man said. Its stick and move. Its not worth being a master in centro. I think you put weigh too much claim and ownership to centro. There's really way more to Colombia than centro. The place has become my go to if theres cancellation or I am shifting a date to another day. I share my story. Its nothing to be ashame about. I get nothing to be a superstar on this forum. So why should I tell superman stories. Surfer surfer. Wake up. Its not that serious. Its centro.

We talking $10 to $15. Not $50 $75 or $300.

By the way surfer. Centro has a body type for every mans preference. So your taste will vary from the next man. What centro lack is class and style of women.


Well you admitted to making a major rookie mistake in that you paid the girl first, and I will take the blame for this on your behalf, in that you appear to have followed some of my insiders tips, however I failed to mention that besides telling them what you will pay you also need to tell them that you always pay afterwards before going upstairs with them. In Spanish you can just say "yo siempre pago despues" . If they refuse this beforehand, than don't bother going with them or your setting yourself up for, hurry up and leche, more money, and oh you so big which happened to you.

There are a lot of pitfalls in dealing with the El Centro girls, and I have been thru my share of them, and I give you credit for posting what happened to you as you may be chastised by others on this. But 30 K is not going to break you!

Also, and this is just a personal thing, I don't focus on the really pretty girls when I am there, as they know lots of guys want this, however I am more focused on their bodies.

Maybe consider going with one that appears to have a killer body versus one with a pretty face as well.

You might be surprised as to what happens..

Blakman
12-10-20, 05:57
Premier plaza Is 16 mil for 1 HR. The chicas normally stay 20,30, 40,50 minutes. Varies. It was a day I just wanted to see a girl naked and do my thing. I wasnt going to fuss over $8 upfront. Tomorrow with the dime I pay $50 to $70. Now that's when I do not give the money first unless she's a prepago cause then you have to pay first. Medellin you have to be flexible and understand some rules you stick to and some rules because of cost. You say fuck it.


Your report style is bizarre, funny, amusing, intriguing, unique, addictive and straight up original. How much are you normally paying for the room at plaza and is it by the hour or 30 minutes or what's the deal? Also how often are you paying these centro hookers up front or is it not something you normally do? I really hate paying girls upfront and I have at times just called the deal off if they insist because then they hold all the cards, they've already been paid so they've no incentive to perform or stick around..

JjBee62
12-10-20, 06:25
Premier plaza Is 16 mil for 1 HR. The chicas normally stay 20,30, 40,50 minutes. Varies. It was a day I just wanted to see a girl naked and do my thing. I wasnt going to fuss over $8 upfront. Tomorrow with the dime I pay $50 to $70. Now that's when I do not give the money first unless she's a prepago cause then you have to pay first. Medellin you have to be flexible and understand some rules you stick to and some rules because of cost. You say fuck it..Prepago, although it translates to prepaid, is a generic term for hookers in Colombia. It doesn't necessarily mean payment in advance is required. They are all prepagos.

VsebudetNY
12-10-20, 07:22
This is the Part 1 of the multipart report.

My writing skills are very bad, so please excuse me in advance.

Just returned back from 16 days trip to Medellin and I had a blast. I had around 30 sessions between FB, El Centro girls, casas and photoprepagos (the exact number will come at the end as I promised myself before the trip to take notes but it never happened and now I have to go through the pictures, WhatsApp and FB messenger conversations to restore the names and dates). I will not reveal the names and prices for FB girls (with some exceptions) and won't grade them as 6,7,8,9,10 as beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I can only say that I paid from 40 MIL (not typo the story will come in the last part) to 250 MIL for FB girls. Most sessions were very good, some amazing, couple partially disappointed and one was complete disaster (El Centro).

I had a flight on COPA at 1:36 AM Friday 11/20. I worked all day Thursday (remotely) and for couple hours tried to fill the required form from my laptop at https://apps.migracioncolombia.gov.co/pre-registro/public/preregistro.jsf but it was failing all the time. Believe me I knew what I was doing (I'm an IT professional) but I couldn't get through. Finally gave up and decided to solve it at airport. Arrived to airport, performed Web check-in and at counter was told that without the form they won't let me go. Started to fill the form on my phone (pain in the ass to fill passport expiration date) but it was failing again giving me an error message saying that I already have a record with the same travel data. Showed my phone to very nice COPA security person, he called supervisor and I was told to make screenshot of an error and show it at the counter and it was the happy end of the story. I put so many details in case somebody else had the same issue: don't sweat it just make a screenshot or use mine (I'm attaching the image) and you're done!

Arrived to Medellin, was asked for the form, showed the same screenshot (please make sure that your phone is charged) and that's it. I had couple hundreds mil from the previous trip, so went to the second floor bought Claro SIM card for 15 days with 2 GB of data for 26 MIL and took 13 MIL bus to San Diego Mall. From there 8 MIL taxi to San Peter (I had first 6 nights booked at San peter), checked in, had lunch across the street, went to Exito to buy rom, beer, water, fruits and some food. WhatsApped JjBee62 who was staying at the same building and he advised me to use BBVA ATM across the street with no fee. Got money and started arranging the first date.

During my last September trip I was staying at Botero Hotel and spent a lot of time with PolloNegro and Nounce at El Centro so I played only El Centro girls, casas and Tinder. Prior to this trip (which was planned for the April but delayed till November) I decided to give FB a try. I collected 220 chica friends in Medellin, so I worked through the list and choose 40 that I really wanted to have. 2 weeks prior the arrival I started messaging them saying I will be soon in Medellin, want to meet and asking for WhatsApp: 34 replied and provided WhatsApp. At 5 pm started messaging girls from the list checking who is available to come right now: 5 were available and I choose Mely Mayho (exception with the name and price you'll understand why soon). She was reviewed couple times here and I really liked her pictures. She wanted 250+taxi but agreed for 200+taxi for 2 hours at 8 pm. She arrived at 8:15 and I was asked to come down and pay for the Uber which was 22 MIL. She was very beatifull, amazing body and very sweet. Beer, kisses, shower and we're in the bed: kisses, hugs, real GFE and she's starting BBBJ. She's very good and in 20 minutes I couldn't hold myself anymore and exploded in her mouse holding her head down. She jumped from the bed and ran to the bathroom very angry (we didn't discuss CIM). She returns back completely different person with angry face and said she need to go because her mother called: I assume she had a headset inside her head as she had no any smart watch and her phone was in other room on the kitchen counter and didn't ring LOL. I said we agreed for 2 hours and just 40 minutes past you won't get the full amount, she waved her hand and get dressed. I get dressed also to walk her out of the building and give her money outside. She grabbed her beer can and we stepped out from the building. We're staying in front of the building and she's requesting I got taxi for her, I said you do it yourself and handed her 100 MIL, she started screaming give me more money I turned and coming back to the building, she throw the beer can which hit the glass door. She's following me inside come to the register desk and screams she call the police. The register girl Ana Maria (very nice girl) is in shock. I'm trying to explain her what happened (my Spanish is 50 words + Google translator). Mely dials the number, put speaker on and calling cops to come, they asking for address and details, Ana Maria tell them the address and now I'm thinking. Hi Blakman, I'm stepping in your shoes. I'm ready to cut losses and asking how much do you want expecting to hear some big number and she says 50 MIL WOW. I said wait here go up grab the money, go down, give her 50 MIL and she's gone(next day she unfriended me and blocked). Handed 5 mil to Ana Maria for troubles, came back to apartment and pour myself scotch (brought from US). Messaged JjBee62 to check if he's available to talk and came to his apartment couple floors below. Told him the story and asked to write report about it as I like his writing style, but later changed my mind and decided to do it myself.


There's really no way to compare sessions between mongers, even with the same girl. The girl who left you disgusted is going to blow some other guy's socks off. The girl who fucked you senseless might be a boring fuck for the next guy.I can't say better. It should be written to the monger's 101.

Conclusion of the story: Mely is very beautiful girl with nice body and amazing skills (IMHO) but could become the wild tiger, you've been warned, YMMV.

After that JjBee62 and I went to Fase Dos where we met another 2 BMs. JjBee62 covered details in his post on the next day. It was fun to spent time with guys, but FaseDos is not my cup of tea: I hate silicon and of all girls I would take only one Yeraldine, took her WhatsApp but she wanted 500 MIL to come to apartment so it never happened. After some time I started feeling exhausted because of sleepless night with flights etc and 3 of us went home. The end of day 1 and Part 1. To be continued.

JjBee62
12-10-20, 08:24
Well you admitted to making a major rookie mistake in that you paid the girl first, and I will take the blame for this on your behalf, in that you appear to have followed some of my insiders tips, however I failed to mention that besides telling them what you will pay you also need to tell them that you always pay afterwards before going upstairs with them. In Spanish you can just say "yo siempre pago despues" . If they refuse this beforehand, than don't bother going with them or your setting yourself up for, hurry up and leche, more money, and oh you so big which happened to you.

There are a lot of pitfalls in dealing with the El Centro girls, and I have been thru my share of them, and I give you credit for posting what happened to you as you may be chastised by others on this. But 30 K is not going to break you!

Also, and this is just a personal thing, I don't focus on the really pretty girls when I am there, as they know lots of guys want this, however I am more focused on their bodies.

Maybe consider going with one that appears to have a killer body versus one with a pretty face as well.

You might be surprised as to what happens.Just an addendum.

"Siempre" is one of the words everyone should add to their toolkit. It's an immediate attention getter. It adds authority to your statements. "Pago despues" is indefinite, especially if you're reading it off of Google Translate. "Siempre pago despues" tells the girl nicely that you have been down this road many times and the discussion is over. You will pay her after you're done.

You can use it in all your negotiations. "Las chicas siempre quedan conmigo por dos o tres horas. " The girls always stay with me for 2 or 3 hours. "Siempre quiero dos polvos. " I always want 2 nuts. "Siempre recibo oral sin condom." I always get BBBJ. There's no guarantee you will get what you are asking for, but it clearly tells the girl what she's competing against.

Mr Enternational
12-10-20, 10:16
Started to fill the form on my phone (pain in the ass to fill passport expiration date).You need to scroll it up to the middle or top of your phone then choose the year first. It is damn near impossible if you are trying to do it on the bottom of your phone.

JohnnyO
12-10-20, 10:27
This is the Part 1 of the multipart report.


She jumped from the bed and ran to the bathroom very angry (we didn't discuss CIM). She returns back completely different person with angry face and said she need to go because her mother called: I assume she had a headset inside her head as she had no any smart watch and her phone was in other room on the kitchen counter and didn't ring LOL. I said we agreed for 2 hours and just 40 minutes past you won't get the full amount, she waved her hand and get dressed. I get dressed also to walk her out of the building and give her money outside. She grabbed her beer can and we stepped out from the building. We're staying in front of the building and she's requesting I got taxi for her, I said you do it yourself and handed her 100 MIL, she started screaming give me more money I turned and coming back to the building, she throw the beer can which hit the glass door. She's following me inside come to the register desk and screams she call the police. The register girl Ana Maria (very nice girl) is in shock. I'm trying to explain her what happened (my Spanish is 50 words + Google translator). Mely dials the number, put speaker on and calling cops to come, they asking for address and details, Ana Maria tell them the address and now I'm thinking. Hi Blakman, I'm stepping in your shoes. I'm ready to cut losses and asking how much do you want expecting to hear some big number and she says 50 MIL WOW. I said wait here go up grab the money, go down, give her 50 MIL and she's gone(next day she unfriended me and blocked). Handed 5 mil to Ana Maria for troubles, came back to apartment and pour myself scotch (brought from US). Messaged JjBee62 to check if he's available to talk and came to his apartment couple floors below. Told him the story and asked to write report about it as I like his writing style, but later changed my mind and decided to do it myself.

I can't say better. It should be written to the monger's 101.

Conclusion of the story: Mely is very beautiful girl with nice body and amazing skills (IMHO) but could become the wild tiger, you've been warned, YMMV.

Thank you for sharing this report, all of it is extremely valuable. I am still debating whether or not to use fb but I am unlikely to as most of the reports seem like some of these girls are complete loose cannons. Maybe taking drugs beforehand and they know that all they have to do is kick up a fuss and make a scene in order for them to get paid for doing nothing. That girl sounds like a real basket case.

It sucks that this happened on your first night and I had my fair share of disasters also. When I arrive somewhere I always tend to rush and want to do everything on the first day, I think I won't be so quick to take anyone back to my apartment in MDE unless I've road tested them first.

Also one thing I have personally learned, when $hit hits the fan and they want to be paid, just pay them the amount that's being agreed, whether you got your dick wet or not. It sucks yes but it can save a hell of lot of aggravation down the line. Sometimes as mongers we need to look at the big picture, I might get 5 free fucks, 10 silly cheap fucks and 1 girl in 2 years go nuts and demand payment for doing nothing, so on average its not end of the world although it does suck at the time when it happens.

Looking forward to the rest of the report.

Turgid
12-10-20, 13:35
Medellin reports are the oasis in the ISG desert in this period of the pandemic. Keep it coming guys as I won't be enjoying my beloved chicas in Medellin until perhaps 2022.

Knowledge
12-10-20, 13:51
Loose cannon is a good description. Key points that stood out for me is Vsebudtet held the girl's head down and skeeted in her mouth. You can usually tell when a girl does not want that. There are non verbal signals and I would be surprised if this apparently experienced pro did not send them. The family emergency exit strategy is an old classic. I think my favorite part of this overall enjoyable report was its reminder how completely fake the much sought after girlfriend experience is. I sometimes think about renting a couple of days at San Peter just to watch the show.


Thank you for sharing this report, all of it is extremely valuable. I am still debating whether or not to use fb but I am unlikely to as most of the reports seem like some of these girls are complete loose cannons. Maybe taking drugs beforehand and they know that all they have to do is kick up a fuss and make a scene in order for them to get paid for doing nothing. That girl sounds like a real basket case.

It sucks that this happened on your first night and I had my fair share of disasters also. When I arrive somewhere I always tend to rush and want to do everything on the first day, I think I won't be so quick to take anyone back to my apartment in MDE unless I've road tested them first.

Also one thing I have personally learned, when $hit hits the fan and they want to be paid, just pay them the amount that's being agreed, whether you got your dick wet or not. It sucks yes but it can save a hell of lot of aggravation down the line. Sometimes as mongers we need to look at the big picture, I might get 5 free fucks, 10 silly cheap fucks and 1 girl in 2 years go nuts and demand payment for doing nothing, so on average its not end of the world although it does suck at the time when it happens.

Looking forward to the rest of the report.

VsebudetNY
12-10-20, 14:53
You need to scroll it up to the middle or top of your phone then choose the year first. It is damn near impossible if you are trying to do it on the bottom of your phone.Mr E, thanks for the input, but my point is: you can skip the hassle of filing the form AT ALL, just download my screenshot, show it at the counter and you're good to go! I did it on my flight back to states. Haven't even bothered to fill the form, just showed the screenshot from NY and Voila! I'm good to go!

Surfer500
12-10-20, 17:00
My method with casa or strip club girls is to look for the attitude first. As you noted, the best looking girls know they are getting as many customers as they want. Why wear themselves out on one guy?

However, there's usually a more average looking girl who knows she has to bring her best effort if she wants the repeat customers.

Almost every casa lineup I've sat through, the best looking girls look bored. Meanwhile the girls with the attitude have never disappointed me.So true, yet so many board members are focused on finding a pretty face to fuck, versus someone who is going to fuck you back. When I hear guys rating the Chicas on the number scale of say 8's and 9"s that they are looking for, well than these guys will most definitely be disappointed with what will be available in El Centro. At the end of the day, when a woman's clothes are off, and you can't see their face, what really is the difference. Maybe another way of looking at it is as a blind taste test. So let's say you have two women, both with identical bodies, but one is a 5 and the other is a 9. So a guy fucks both of them, and the 9 is a dud, and the 5 is a superstar. So the choice for me will be the 5 hands down every time. So many stories of guys disappointed with the 9's sexually. To me they are just "trophy fucks", and usually poor performers, so I don't even waste my time with them.

Your analogy that the best looking girls are bored, so true, they know they are going to get pulled, and most times just lay there and flop around a little bit versus engaging you.