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Knowledge
01-12-21, 15:08
Bulevar Botero a couple of doors away is the same routine. I recently discovered there are long term residents on its upper floor. I think that explains how it remained open during the entire four month lockdown. I found it very helpful.


I remember a lot of you guys mentioning that hotel. It was actually the girl with the other BM that wanted it because she didn't have cedula and we were literally outside of it. I know what you mean by the lookers but I feel even without the language you'll either get good vibes or not from a girl and that's what I normally go with. We were about to head back so I literally just grabbed the venny quickly as she was already outside the hotel and I was sex starved for the last few days, but yeah as with a lot of them dumb as rock she could have earned a nice propina.

I've been talking to a few of them via translator on what's app over the last few days. I know I'll get good service from them because they have good attitudes and I get good vibes from them and I've already made it clear exactly what I want and they've promised to deliver, let's see.

The Tall Man
01-12-21, 15:39
To put it differently. Price is what you pay and value is what you get. The two are not always correlated. True in mongering as in many inefficient and opaque markets in life. Its each guys right to do as he wishes, but cultivating a good relationship with the chica and paying a fair price is a solid and sensible and arguably even safer way to monger. But yeah there are definitely mongers who fly in from NY pay the chica an ungodly (for Colombia) amount of money and have the effect of taking that chica out of commission for a few weeks. I know atleast one chica who is in that boat, she is not too high volume, but does it to augment her income as a house cleaner where she gets paid 80mil per day with 2-3 days work a week. We are more like friends now and when she tells me what some of these mongers paid, I tell her good for her as she got her payday. But as someone mentioned these chicas are such crappy budgeters, that even 7 Million will be gone in a month! And they are back. BTW that's what a monger just paid her for a week in Cartagena recently. Do the math and you realize the dude paid her what she would take more than 8months to earn in a week.True that about budgets and planning, they have none, they get back to their family and friends and boyfriends and whatever they have it is gone.

You give them 2 mil and it is gone in 2 minutes.

You give 20 mil and its gone in 20 minutes.

You give 200 mil and it is gone in 2 hours.

You give 2,000,000 and it is gone in 2 days.

Bottom line no matter what they have it is gone quickly and 2 days later they are begging for pesos and willing to suck and fuck for 20 mil as they are hard up. But gawd we love these barrio paisa pussy.

The Tall Man.

Sangnyc21
01-12-21, 16:55
Can someone tell me if I need a hard copy or if a pdf file on my phone is sufficient?

Knowledge
01-12-21, 17:17
The lockdown was scheduled to end at midnight, yes. I'm not sure why there is so much confusion about the schedule. A couple of guys asked about the sign on the front door of one of the punter palaces someone photographed and posted. It listed the beginning and end of the lockdown in Spanish and English.


I haven't verified this info, but going by the look and sound of things, the lock-down must be over. There is more activity, people, and traffic outside my hotel window in the last 30 minutes than the entire time I have been here, arrived Saturday night.


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Surfer500
01-12-21, 17:23
Can someone tell me if I need a hard copy or if a pdf file on my phone is sufficient?Carry both in the event your phone takes a dump!

Mr Enternational
01-12-21, 17:34
Can someone tell me if I need a hard copy or if a pdf file on my phone is sufficient?Phone is sufficient.

Surfer500
01-12-21, 19:52
True that about budgets and planning, they have none, they get back to their family and friends and boyfriends and whatever they have it is gone.
Bottom line no matter what they have it is gone quickly and 2 days later they are begging for pesos and willing to suck and fuck for 20 mil as they are hard up. But gawd we love these barrio paisa pussy.The Tall Man.Yes very true indeed, they get some money, and no matter what the amount, poof it's gone quickly. You talk about living hand to mouth, it was hard for me to even imagine this after becoming aware of it, and now with the Pandemic, I don't know how many of them even get by.

One Chica I knew told me that when she got money, she would always give some to her Mom to hold onto for future rent and / or utilities because if she didn't, the money would be gone in a heartbeat.

Just Incognito
01-12-21, 23:03
BREAKING: CDC requiring a negative Covid-19 test for all air passengers entering the USA Starting on Jan. 26.

"Air passengers are required to get a viral test (a test for current infection) within the 3 days before their flight to the USA Departs," the CDC says in a statement.

Sangnyc21
01-12-21, 23:35
BREAKING: CDC requiring a negative Covid-19 test for all air passengers entering the USA Starting on Jan. 26.

"Air passengers are required to get a viral test (a test for current infection) within the 3 days before their flight to the USA Departs," the CDC says in a statement.So this would literally wipe out weekend visitors.

JohnnyO
01-12-21, 23:41
New life. Amazing line up, some real stunners but here's the thing, I always choose a girl based on the vibe I get, eye contact and smile etc. Choose a decent looking girl not the best looking there, she thick with big naturals.

Straight away real GF experience, smiley friendly and relaxing, so sweet. Really enjoyed the session. So far new life best casa.

Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. I go to grill avenida nueve again and this is where things get interesting.

1st beer not feeling it with the girls there. Then a tall big built chocolate girl walks by, I don't like tall girls but I straight away get that vibe, OK what have I got to lose. Sometimes I have to go with instinct.

Order some drinks, more girls are coming in, some real lookers. My tall girl is so sweet and nice and really wants to communicate with me via translator, I find some working girls don't have the patience.

Then she does something which is normally an instant red card offence but I let it slide, another round comes out of nowhere, I tell her it's not cool.

She wants to make love as she says, I ask if she does anal 'I love anal' the deal is sealed. We go to the room, which is like a trap door through the DJ booth. In the room, total GFE from the first second then all of a sudden she almost swallows my cock and balls whole without a rubber, this is going to be fun.

I'm smashing her like crazy and she's trembling the whole time, every now and then she deep throats me.

Then I start smashing her back door and she loves it. Oh I'm in heaven with this girl. What a session. It's almost time for me to finish and I want to jerk off over her tits, I'm sure she'll protest like the street walker but no she starts sucking on my cock as I'm jerking off.

She deepthroating me trying to make me cum, is this really happening? I'm about to blow and her mouth is wide open, I pull her head forward and dump the load in La boca, she licks her lips and keeps thanking me, my god this girl is different gravy.

Back to the floor and she keeps thanking me saying she loves me, I give her 10 k propina and she's over the moon. Total including tip 90 k. What's app number taken, Wow, I still can't believe it. I love this place.

Time to go back out.

Knowledge
01-12-21, 23:45
I smell another Centro rat.


New life. Amazing line up, some real stunners but here's the thing, I always choose a girl based on the vibe I get, eye contact and smile etc. Choose a decent looking girl not the best looking there, she thick with big naturals.

Straight away real GF experience, smiley friendly and relaxing, so sweet. Really enjoyed the session. So far new life best casa.

Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. I go to grill avenida nueve again and this is where things get interesting.

1st beer not feeling it with the girls there. Then a tall big built chocolate girl walks by, I don't like tall girls but I straight away get that vibe, OK what have I got to lose. Sometimes I have to go with instinct.

Order some drinks, more girls are coming in, some real lookers. My tall girl is so sweet and nice and really wants to communicate with me via translator, I find some working girls don't have the patience.

Then she does something which is normally an instant red card offence but I let it slide, another round comes out of nowhere, I tell her it's not cool..

Combo
01-12-21, 23:55
It's hard to find that type of work ethic nowadays.


New life. Amazing line up, some real stunners but here's the thing, I always choose a girl based on the vibe I get, eye contact and smile etc. Choose a decent looking girl not the best looking there, she thick with big naturals.

Straight away real GF experience, smiley friendly and relaxing, so sweet. Really enjoyed the session. So far new life best casa.

Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. I go to grill avenida nueve again and this is where things get interesting.

1st beer not feeling it with the girls there. Then a tall big built chocolate girl walks by, I don't like tall girls but I straight away get that vibe, OK what have I got to lose. Sometimes I have to go with instinct.

Order some drinks, more girls are coming in, some real lookers. My tall girl is so sweet and nice and really wants to communicate with me via translator, I find some working girls don't have the patience.

Then she does something which is normally an instant red card offence but I let it slide, another round comes out of nowhere, I tell her it's not cool.

She wants to make love as she says, I ask if she does anal 'I love anal' the deal is sealed. We go to the room, which is like a trap door through the DJ booth. In the room, total GFE from the first second then all of a sudden she almost swallows my cock and balls whole without a rubber, this is going to be fun.

I'm smashing her like crazy and she's trembling the whole time, every now and then she deep throats me.

Then I start smashing her back door and she loves it. Oh I'm in heaven with this girl. What a session. It's almost time for me to finish and I want to jerk off over her tits, I'm sure she'll protest like the street walker but no she starts sucking on my cock as I'm jerking off.

She deepthroating me trying to make me cum, is this really happening? I'm about to blow and her mouth is wide open, I pull her head forward and dump the load in La boca, she licks her lips and keeps thanking me, my god this girl is different gravy.

Back to the floor and she keeps thanking me saying she loves me, I give her 10 k propina and she's over the moon. Total including tip 90 k. What's app number taken, Wow, I still can't believe it. I love this place.

Time to go back out.

JjBee62
01-13-21, 00:16
There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?You misspelled "speculation. " A theory is something completely different.

I would question such speculation.

1. No vaccine has been around for 8 months, so no determination of an 8 month lag in effectiveness could have been found.

2. The vaccine manufacturers are reporting up to 95% protection from infection. If there is an 8 month lag, within about 3 months, each of them will be defendants in a class action lawsuit which could run into the trillions.

3. Independent testing confirms the vaccine effectiveness. It didn't take 8 months to confirm the pharmaceutical companies test results.

There will almost certainly be individuals who will not be protected by the vaccine. There will be some who will be partially protected and who will be fully protected after contracting a milder case of Covid. There may even be some who won't achieve full protection for 8 months. However, the majority who receive both doses should have immunity within 2 weeks after the second dose.

JjBee62
01-13-21, 00:35
I see good looking Brazlilian girls and Colombian / Venzuelan frequent on the escortsites in Europe. They can just enter with a Tourist-visa.

Then salaries are, before / after Corona not that high, since competition is fierce.

My prepago-friends in Colombia would love to do porn, if not exposed in Colombia, with is it sooner or later it often does.

A really sexy pornmodel can make 1000-2000 uro / scen, even 3000/ scen in Europe, according to ads. At Sexyjobs, plus expenes fare travelling and hotel. A session with a regular John might be 200 uro - 30-50% to the house / mamasan.

After doing porn she can have her own Onlyfan, fancentro etc. Accounts. Markets for de luxe escorts have got a completely new type of competition!

Really awesome girls, often Czech, Hungarians, Romanians, can, despite of their stunningly appearances, just be number +1000 or higher at xvideos ranking, and +100-+200 in their own rather small countries.

These girls sems to be short-lived in the industry at the high-end paying market, just a few months or years and then most of them are gone, hardly ever noticed, so their anxiety for being discovered in Colombia / Venezuela or Brazil is probably much more paranoia than reality!

Their real problem is instead their lack of common-knowledge and in particular absence of even of basic English.I would recommend doing a lot more research before making any recommendations to your Paisa friends for anything of the sort. Promises are easier to make than to keep and not everyone in the porn business is 100% honest.

As for the chance of being discovered in their home country, it's not paranoia. One webcam model I worked with was discovered by a cousin of her husband, in less than 3 months. He first tried to blackmail her and then showed screenshots to the family.

Another that I know was discovered by a guy who had a crush on her in school. He tried blackmail and bullying and sent screenshots to her mother. Then there was the model about 4 years ago who jumped off the crosswalk in front of a Metro train after some guy was blackmailing and bullying her.

Although her family all knows what she does, my old roommate ran into a problem with a user who managed to find all of her private social media accounts, which she just uses for family and friends. He found out she had a boyfriend and went off the deep end. Made a lot of threats before finally going away.

The better agencies warn the girls of the risks and help to prepare them for when it happens. This includes how to tell the family what you're doing and how to deal with the bullies and the rest. I sat through an interesting lecture by the Medellin head of the national police where he explained to webcam models what legal recourse they had for those situations.

Knowledge
01-13-21, 01:32
So anyway, about the question. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?


You misspelled "speculation. " A theory is something completely different.

I would question such speculation.

1. No vaccine has been around for 8 months, so no determination of an 8 month lag in effectiveness could have been found.

2. The vaccine manufacturers are reporting up to 95% protection from infection. If there is an 8 month lag, within about 3 months, each of them will be defendants in a class action lawsuit which could run into the trillions.

3. Independent testing confirms the vaccine effectiveness. It didn't take 8 months to confirm the pharmaceutical companies test results.

There will almost certainly be individuals who will not be protected by the vaccine. There will be some who will be partially protected and who will be fully protected after contracting a milder case of Covid. There may even be some who won't achieve full protection for 8 months. However, the majority who receive both doses should have immunity within 2 weeks after the second dose.

Surfer500
01-13-21, 02:38
I smell another Centro rat.I called it after his first post, and the truth of the matter is, there's not many rats on this board. Maybe it's a gene thing, and your just born that way, like a duck taking to water. I had such high hopes for our former "rat candidate", but he didn't pan out, as he couldn't seem to fully come out of the closet. Hopefully he will do better in the jungles in Africa.

Surfer500
01-13-21, 02:58
New life. Amazing line up, some real stunners but here's the thing, I always choose a girl based on the vibe I get, eye contact and smile etc. Choose a decent looking girl not the best looking there, she thick with big naturals.

Straight away real GF experience, smiley friendly and relaxing, so sweet. Really enjoyed the session. So far new life best casa.

Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. I go to grill avenida nueve again and this is where things get interesting.

1st beer not feeling it with the girls there. Then a tall big built chocolate girl walks by, I don't like tall girls but I straight away get that vibe, OK what have I got to lose. Sometimes I have to go with instinct.

Order some drinks, more girls are coming in, some real lookers. My tall girl is so sweet and nice and really wants to communicate with me via translator, I find some working girls don't have the patience.

Then she does something which is normally an instant red card offence but I let it slide, another round comes out of nowhere, I tell her it's not cool..So did she swallow, or spit it out, and if she swallowed, you found a keeper!

Your like a kid in a candy shop, which I can totally relate too. Your in heaven, and literally anything goes.

Surfer500
01-13-21, 03:02
It's hard to find that type of work ethic nowadays.Rarely do newcomers to Medellin who have never been here before and must rely on a translator hit the ground running and loving it all the way!

DarrenGap
01-13-21, 03:36
There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?I've just recovered from it, and it wasn't all that. I'm late 50's high bmi, blood pressure and history of asthma. And it still wasn't all that for me, I could of got lucky I suppose.

I'm going to take the vaccine in a few weeks when its offered. Apparently for people who've had it, the response to the vaccine is very very good indeed. Training those antibodies I guess.

Also, who is telling you 8 months? Sounds like BS to me.

Really looking foward to going back to MDE or CTG ASAP. When the girls are back.

MongerHunger
01-13-21, 03:46
BREAKING: CDC requiring a negative Covid-19 test for all air passengers entering the USA Starting on Jan. 26.

"Air passengers are required to get a viral test (a test for current infection) within the 3 days before their flight to the USA Departs," the CDC says in a statement.The CDC can't require anything but they can suggest. It's the Department of State and all government entities under it that can require any measures.

LivingFossil
01-13-21, 04:34
BREAKING: CDC requiring a negative Covid-19 test for all air passengers entering the USA Starting on Jan. 26.

"Air passengers are required to get a viral test (a test for current infection) within the 3 days before their flight to the USA Departs," the CDC says in a statement.Damn they fucked everyone over now, now we got to find covid testing in 3rd world countries or we can't come back to America. Fkkk.

I have no problem getting a test to get in to Colombia but arranging one to get out could be more difficult.

It will be interesting to see how things develop in the next few weeks, I really don't want to cancel my Feb trip.

Anyone know where to get a reliable Covid test in MDE LOL?

Mr Enternational
01-13-21, 04:50
Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. She deepthroating me trying to make me cum, is this really happening? I'm about to blow and her mouth is wide open, I pull her head forward and dump the load in La boca, she licks her lips and keeps thanking me, my god this girl is different gravy.Hey man. Take your ass back to Poblado. Don't be starting no bad habits.

Moso2
01-13-21, 04:57
Good hotel choice Zona Rosa, it's my go to Hotel and the room you were in has a good view of the courtyard of the Veracruz Church. You were in my favorite room which I have probably been in at least 100 times over the last four years. I prefer this Hotel over Premier Plaza due to it's more obscure entrance. As far as the Vennie, what a piece of shit trying to upsell you and then ask for a propina. If she had had any brains she would of done what you requested and earned a tip. I know your Spanish skills are limited as you previously mentioned and it can be challenging not being able to interview and converse with the girls but don't despair you will find some nice girls. What I can tell you though is don't get to wrapped up in the lookers, they think their shit doesn't stink and typically give shitty service.I walked and consulted my map for Hotel Zona Rosa at CL. 51 #50-51, but I did not find it. Maybe I was experiencing GPS lag. I tried to only pull out my phone when I would duck into a store. I was paying close attention to everyone around me, so it was more difficult to always notice the signs with street numbers.

I took the metro for the first time and ended up getting the deed for 30 k +8 k tip and 6 k room at Hotel Cascade. She was a 23 yr morena with very large senos and some baby damage. Just did the deed and at towards the end when I was trying to finish manually, she hopped back on. For a while there was a nice view in front of me and no cover. Then I finished manually.

Then I met someone from Ohio and hung out with him for a while. He was taller and was wearing shorts so I suddenly noticed much more attention and higher prices. I told him to make an offer instead of asking how much. He ignored this and received offers of 50 k for some young cuties. We walked into a bar and he received offers of 40 k for a Bucaramangese, 46 for her friend.

Then we headed over to the Avenida de Greiff area and had a beer after perusing what was available. He went upstairs with someone after a while and ended up getting upsold to 150 k. He was staying in town for a short time and had more budget. So he did not care. We headed out of the De Grieff area at a bit after 7 pm in a taxi to parque Lleras.

I had never been to Poblado or parque Lleras, so this was a new experience. We met up with another gringo from Ohio that recognized the other gringos shirt with a football team. I felt the hard sell at LLeras and I think I might prefer el centro. I tried to speak with some of the chicas and felt like it was often always be closing. Also, a bit more mental games like girls telling me translate when I understand almost everything they say and I can speak well.

The first gringo departed and the other asked me if I wanted to go to Gustos. That the cover was 10 k. I was dressed down for centro and was getting low on funds because I had not planned on this. So, I entered the club anyway. Virtually no masks, but many of the chicas out in the park were not wearing masks either. I did see some good looking women and some tall women as well which I like. I think what I would have enjoyed the most is dancing with the chicas. So, I called it a night and headed back home in a taxi.

Moso2
01-13-21, 05:00
Hey man. Take your ass back to Poblado. Don't be starting no bad habits.The person I met after doing the deed in centro was interested in going to New Life, but it seemed like it would take a while to walk there. If you are not embellishing, I might need to head over and find out. Oral al natural, garganta profunda, termine en la boca. Who was this chica? I want to know.

Elvis 2008
01-13-21, 05:15
There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose.Knowledge,

I gave you the wrong answer. Moderna first started giving the vaccine way back in March 2020 in their first study, and the people showed an immune response two weeks later. Moderna just released a statement saying their virus provides protection for at least one year.

There is no evidence, zero, the vaccine only works for eight months.

Nounce
01-13-21, 10:46
So anyway, about the question. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?Why wait? No drug companies have announced the vaccine protection will last forever.

The Tall Man
01-13-21, 14:55
New life. Amazing line up, some real stunners but here's the thing, I always choose a girl based on the vibe I get, eye contact and smile etc. Choose a decent looking girl not the best looking there, she thick with big naturals.

Straight away real GF experience, smiley friendly and relaxing, so sweet. Really enjoyed the session. So far new life best casa.

Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. I go to grill avenida nueve again and this is where things get interesting.

1st beer not feeling it with the girls there. Then a tall big built chocolate girl walks by, I don't like tall girls but I straight away get that vibe, OK what have I got to lose. Sometimes I have to go with instinct.

Order some drinks, more girls are coming in, some real lookers. My tall girl is so sweet and nice and really wants to communicate with me via translator, I find some working girls don't have the patience..Yes your black gal experience at the strip club (I think I know the girl you session-ed with), love it and the thing is that these off the chart sex escapades happen more times than not, like you did you just need a little patience and observation and selection then bamn and you have memories to last well until the next one.

I know some of the doorman there as we have been friends for some years now when they use to work at another strip club, well I have photos of just about every gal that works there, I promised never to share these photos with anyone, but to the story we are setting up a 3 or 4 day finca party in the coming weeks and we will have a half dozen of the girls for the whole weekend of sexcapades and debauchery, hehehehe and your tall black girl will probably be the leader of the pack. Gawd I love Medellin!

The Tall Man.

Knowledge
01-13-21, 16:53
That is a reasonable question. Thus far I have not noticed consistently reasonable approaches to managing the virus and enjoyment of life amongst us. I've read about the high risk of being with providers but not so much about visiting big box retailers or using public transportation. Multiple millions of cases world wide make me question how many of them could have been avoided through abstinence.


Why wait? No drug companies have announced the vaccine protection will last forever.

Black Page
01-13-21, 18:06
Damn they fucked everyone over now, now we got to find covid testing in 3rd world countries or we can't come back to America. FkkkI bet getting a test in Medellin is cheaper and as easy (or as difficult) as in USA (well, easy or difficult depends on *where* you are in USA: in vast areas the quality of health assistance is not as high as in Medellin).

That cannot be a problem. The problem will be if you test positive and you are in Medellin! I suggest to make plans for all cases. I really miss how people could even consider to travel overseas in this situation.

MongerHunger
01-13-21, 18:19
The CDC can't require anything but they can suggest. It's the Department of State and all government entities under it that can require any measures.OK, The CDC did put an order in place for COVID test requirements for international air travel to the United States. Here is the complete information about that order. Read it over thoroughly.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html

Nounce
01-13-21, 18:27
I walked and consulted my map for Hotel Zona Rosa at CL. 51 #50-51, but I did not find it. I think it is the one across the street of the white church with a door to the second floor.

Silver Turtle
01-13-21, 18:44
In the last 3 years, an increasing number of blue collar guys, and / or high school graduates (or dropouts), came to or stayed in El Centro. Though many of them are nice and decent guys. They were disliked by locals, and they had many troubles with locals.


The truth of the matter is that the Centro rats on this board are probably the most wealthy members of this group and some them do live in Poblado Penthouses and source 30 K dates from El Centro. Perhaps this is conceptually hard for many to relate to in that why would a guy living in a luxury Penthouse go on 30 K dates?

Elvis 2008
01-13-21, 18:57
There were two books I have read about someone providing a supposed cure after making others sick and who looked like a savior. The reason I bring this up is because the vaccine is almost too damned good for Covid. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article#.

When you do a trial like Moderna did with this vaccine, half the people get the vaccine, and the other half get salt water (placebo) injections. Here was a result that caused my jaw to drop:

Thirty participants in the trial had severe Covid-19; all 30 were in the placebo group (indicating vaccine efficacy of 100% and one death among these participants was attributed to Covid-19 .

If you go to the table here, you can see how quickly the vaccine works: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article#.

It appears that the vaccine provides protection 14 days after you get your first shot.

The study to get the vaccine approved did not mention antibodies, but other doctors did a study and the results are here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article#.

Now let me go back to the original article and you can see what all Covid can do. It is not just the runny nose, fever, and body aches.

A secondary end point was the efficacy of mRNA-1273 in the prevention of severe Covid-19 as defined by one of the following criteria: respiratory rate of 30 or more breaths per minute; heart rate at or exceeding 125 beats per minute; oxygen saturation at 93% or less while the participant was breathing ambient air at sea level or a ratio of the partial pressure of oxygen to the fraction of inspired oxygen below 300 mm Hg; respiratory failure; acute respiratory distress syndrome; evidence of shock (systolic blood pressure <90 mm Hg, diastolic blood pressure <60 mm Hg, or a need for vasopressors); clinically significant acute renal, hepatic, or neurologic dysfunction; admission to an intensive care unit; or death.

Even that list is not all inclusive of what Covid can do.

A buddy of mine went to the hospital. He had an intestinal problem and was coughing. He was diagnosed with blood clots in his lungs and an ileus where your gut does not move food down the tract like it should. He was checked for Covid 4 times, and all the tests were negative. 9 out of 10 times a blood clot in the lungs comes from the legs, but he had no clots in the legs. With Covid, only 5 in 10 people have clots comes in their legs. He said he was exposed to people 5 to 7 days before who may have had Covid, and he is convinced that all of his problems were due to Covid, and I cannot say he is wrong.

Truth is that given that Covid causes blood clots, it can affect any organ in the body. How many heart attacks or strokes were related to Covid and people were not tested or tested falsely negative? As bad as people said Covid was, it is actually even worse.

Moderna started testing back in March and the people who got the shots then still have elevated antibodies and are now saying the vaccine works for at least a year.

As for getting the vaccine in Colombia, it is not good news. https://thebogotapost.com/colombias-tense-wait-for-the-covid-19-vaccine/48357/.

When will Colombia get the COVID-19 vaccine?

No-one can say. Colombia's President Duque announced that vaccination would start in January, but the minister of health says that "no date is set" and that there are no final deals with vaccine suppliers.

Anyway, if you are thinking of going to Colombia like I am, waiting five weeks after the first vaccine injection and going is the smart thing but even waiting two weeks gives you a lot of protection.

One last thing: I mentioned the oral PCR test so if you are going to Colombia, you can use it versus the swab up your nose. I thought it would take 7 to 10 days to get the package. Actually, it came in two. The company says the oral PCR turnaround is 24 hours once you send them a sample.

With coming back to the USA, you need a negative Covid test as well, but you can get the antigen test and that only takes 15 minutes to run. It is not the logistical nightmare the PCR test is.

Y'all stay safe. Things suck right now, but if these vaccine works as well as advertised, maybe in 2022, we can put this shit in the rearview mirror.

Surfer500
01-13-21, 18:59
I think it is the one across the street of the white church with a door to the second floor.It's obscured by trees in front, if your looking at the Hotel from the Church towards the Metro, there is a large restaurant directly to the right of it on the passageway toward the Metro. There is an entrance with a flight of stairs leading up to the office and typically there will be a ton of vennies hanging in front of the entrance.

Elvis 2008
01-13-21, 19:09
The CDC can't require anything but they can suggest. It's the Department of State and all government entities under it that can require any measures.Yeah, the CDC got around that.

If a passenger chooses not to provide a test result or documentation of recovery, the airline must deny boarding to the passenger.

I understand the rationale for doing this, but this kind of pisses me off. You have government or really a psuedogovernment agency making private companies be responsible for implementing government policies, and they do this shit all the time. In effect, the CDC is now making law.

But it is what it is.

RudeBwoy100
01-13-21, 20:40
In the last 3 years, an increasing number of blue collar guys, and / or high school graduates (or dropouts), came to or stayed in El Centro. Though many of them are nice and decent guys. They were disliked by locals, and they had many troubles with locals.Explain, what kind of issues did these guys have while staying in El Centro?

Knowledge
01-13-21, 21:19
What is happening? It is starting to rain Centro rats!


I walked and consulted my map for Hotel Zona Rosa at CL. 51 #50-51, but I did not find it. Maybe I was experiencing GPS lag. I tried to only pull out my phone when I would duck into a store. I was paying close attention to everyone around me, so it was more difficult to always notice the signs with street numbers.

I took the metro for the first time and ended up getting the deed for 30 k +8 k tip and 6 k room at Hotel Cascade. She was a 23 yr morena with very large senos and some baby damage. Just did the deed and at towards the end when I was trying to finish manually, she hopped back on. For a while there was a nice view in front of me and no cover. Then I finished manually.

Then I met someone from Ohio and hung out with him for a while. He was taller and was wearing shorts so I suddenly noticed much more attention and higher prices. I told him to make an offer instead of asking how much. He ignored this and received offers of 50 k for some young cuties. We walked into a bar and he received offers of 40 k for a Bucaramangese, 46 for her friend.

Then we headed over to the Avenida de Greiff area and had a beer after perusing what was available. He went upstairs with someone after a while and ended up getting upsold to 150 k. He was staying in town for a short time and had more budget. So he did not care. We headed out of the De Grieff area at a bit after 7 pm in a taxi to parque Lleras..

Knowledge
01-13-21, 21:21
USA will require PCR test for entry beginning Jan 26.


There were two books I have read about someone providing a supposed cure after making others sick and who looked like a savior. The reason I bring this up is because the vaccine is almost too damned good for Covid. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article#.

When you do a trial like Moderna did with this vaccine, half the people get the vaccine, and the other half get salt water (placebo) injections. Here was a result that caused my jaw to drop:

Thirty participants in the trial had severe Covid-19; all 30 were in the placebo group (indicating vaccine efficacy of 100% and one death among these participants was attributed to Covid-19 .

If you go to the table here, you can see how quickly the vaccine works: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article#.

It appears that the vaccine provides protection 14 days after you get your first shot.

The study to get the vaccine approved did not mention antibodies, but other doctors did a study and the results are here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article#.

Now let me go back to the original article and you can see what all Covid can do. It is not just the runny nose, fever, and body aches...

Knowledge
01-13-21, 21:23
I am more interested in how "blue collar" is defined.


Explain, what kind of issues did these guys have while staying in El Centro?

Mojo Bandit
01-13-21, 22:54
I walked and consulted my map for Hotel Zona Rosa at CL. 51 #50-51, but I did not find it. i.


I think it is the one across the street of the white church with a door to the second floor.I did a little recon on Google Street Maps and found this. This could be very easy to miss if you were not playing close attention. The problem is that you have to be right in front of this place to see the sign. These images show why. Like Nounce said it is located across from the white church (Iglesia De La Veracruz). These images are from 2019 according to Google. If this information is still accurate then it is located on Avenida Carabobo AKA Carrera 52 it is the first entrance in the second builiding on the east side of Carrera 52 just north of Calle 51. From the corner of Carrera 52 and Calle 51 you would head north (slightly northeast) on Carrera 52 and it is going to be on the right (the white church is on the left at this point).

One image clearly shows the sign over the entrance. In one image I show the view from the corner looking north so that you can see the white church on the right I have a red arrow showing where the entrance is. In another image I show once you move north and get almost to the entrance, there is an arrow on this image also pointing out the entrance just to the left of the gold sign with black letters that say Entrada . I added another image that shows what the sign looks like coming from the other direction, this is the image that has a red awning in it, but again you have to be right up on the place to see that sign, any further away and the other awnings hide the sign as I show in another image.

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Silver Turtle
01-13-21, 23:05
Explain, what kind of issues did these guys have while staying in El Centro?The issues / problems described in the original post were removed by the moderator. So, the context of my post changed a lot. I intended to say that many of them are good guys, but some people caused problems.

Surfer500
01-14-21, 02:48
I did a little recon on Google Street Maps and found this. This could be very easy to miss if you were not playing close attention. The problem is that you have to be right in front of this place to see the sign. These images show why. Like Nounce said it is located across from the white church (Iglesia De La Veracruz). These images are from 2019 according to Google. If this information is still accurate then it is located on Avenida Carabobo AKA Carrera 52 it is the first entrance in the second builiding on the east side of Carrera 52 just north of Calle 51. From the corner of Carrera 52 and Calle 51 you would head north (slightly northeast) on Carrera 52 and it is going to be on the right (the white church is on the left at this point).

One image clearly shows the sign over the entrance. In one image I show the view from the corner looking north so that you can see the white church on the right I have a red arrow showing where the entrance is. In another image I show once you move north and get almost to the entrance, there is an arrow on this image also pointing out the entrance just to the left of the gold sign with black letters that say Entrada . I added another image that shows what the sign looks like coming from the other direction, this is the image that has a red awning in it, but again you have to be right up on the place to see that sign, any further away and the other awnings hide the sign as I show in another image.I find it hard to believe other members are having difficulty finding the place, in my opinion it can't be missed if somebody says it's in front of the Church you would think guys would obviously be able to distinguish the entrance to a Hotel versus the little shops on each side. If a guy can't find the place after what you have taken the time to prepare and post, they probably shouldn't be in that area to begin with.

I remember trying to find a "casa" once in a large City in China, and I don't remember the name of the City, and they don't call them casa's there, but there was very limited information on ISG as to the location of the casa or whatever they call it in Chinese. It was kind of like an Easter egg hunt, and I was within 25 yards of the entrance based on the ISG reports and finally found it seeing guys entering the place and there was no signage / numbers albeit I wouldn't of understood them in Chinese to begin with.

So you would think somebody looking for Zona Rosa, if they spent a little time there would of identified it when they saw guys walking into a place with Chicas. And they also could of easily asked someone where it's located as well.

Regardless, if anyone else can't find it with the information you have provided, they don't belong there.

Surfer500
01-14-21, 02:51
What is happening? It is starting to rain Centro rats!There must be a shortage of cats, that can be the only thing I can think of.

Knowledge
01-14-21, 03:17
Its entrance is next to the very well marked entrance to Govinda vegetarian restaurant.


I find it hard to believe other members are having difficulty finding the place, in my opinion it can't be missed if somebody says it's in front of the Church you would think guys would obviously be able to distinguish the entrance to a Hotel versus the little shops on each side. If a guy can't find the place after what you have taken the time to prepare and post, they probably shouldn't be in that area to begin with.

I remember trying to find a "casa" once in a large City in China, and I don't remember the name of the City, and they don't call them casa's there, but there was very limited information on ISG as to the location of the casa or whatever they call it in Chinese. It was kind of like an Easter egg hunt, and I was within 25 yards of the entrance based on the ISG reports and finally found it seeing guys entering the place and there was no signage / numbers albeit I wouldn't of understood them in Chinese to begin with.

So you would think somebody looking for Zona Rosa, if they spent a little time there would of identified it when they saw guys walking into a place with Chicas. And they also could of easily asked someone where it's located as well.

Kinosellis
01-14-21, 03:58
USA will require PCR test for entry beginning Jan 26.I only want to make sure that it is clear that the rapid test is the requirement because there's a big difference between a PCR test and an antigen test. The antigen test is the rapid test that is performed and the results are confirmed within 15 to 45 minutes of the test administration. A PCR test could require 3 to 5 days in order to complete depending on the time it takes for the center to ship the test to the lab. A PCR test is a lot harder to manage under a 3 day time period than a rapid test that is done in the same day at worst.

The PCR test requirement for Colombia is a lot harder to satisfy than the return trip test that the CDC / USA requires for entry onboard a return flight to the United States. That said, I do not know where you can find an antigen / rapid test in Colombia. If anyone knows or can confirm a few reliable options that would be great. If not, I'm asking friends and people I know in MDE for referrals to places where you can reliably get an antigen test for our return flights. Good luck everyone hopefully I can share reliable info.

My source is the CDC website here.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html#text=On%20 January%2012%2 C%202021%2 C%20 CDC, airline%20 before%20 boarding%20 the%20 flight.

Sangnyc21
01-14-21, 03:59
10 pm curfew and pico y cédula except restaurants and hotels.

Does anyone know if gyms have pico also?

MiamiBoy1
01-14-21, 04:23
10 pm curfew and pico y cdula except restaurants and hotels.

Does anyone know if gyms have pico also?Could someone confirm whether the holiday lockdown in MDE has been extended or not? Looks like in Bogota it starts again this Friday until Monday, citywide, and then extended in some neighborhoods. Is MDE any better? I have read a couple of articles which said there are currently no new movement restrictions or business closures until they assess the situation and come up with a new plan.

Mojo Bandit
01-14-21, 05:12
Regardless, if anyone else can't find it with the information you have provided, they don't belong there.I like to leave no room for misunderstanding LOL and obviously I was bored and time on my hands.

Kamking1
01-14-21, 05:16
Yeah, the CDC got around that.

If a passenger chooses not to provide a test result or documentation of recovery, the airline must deny boarding to the passenger.

I understand the rationale for doing this, but this kind of pisses me off. You have government or really a psuedogovernment agency making private companies be responsible for implementing government policies, and they do this shit all the time. In effect, the CDC is now making law.

But it is what it is.How about those who already got vaccine? I got my first dose of Pfizer-Biontec, getting the second dose in 2 weeks time. Do I also need to show a PCR test report?

Zux.

Sangnyc21
01-14-21, 05:20
https://mobile.twitter.com/QuinteroCalle/status/1349497819376349186

RiceRocket99
01-14-21, 05:22
I'm in Medellin and what SangNyc21 said is correct. Curfew 10 pm-5 am starting this Thursday-Tuesday and can be extended. Pico why seeédula is pretty much a given for rest of January, that's what I would assume. On another note, I read on CDC that they require any negative viral test to enter USA so that includes antigen or pcr. Antigen test has much faster results (within 24 hrs). There are lots of places in Medellin that offer that. A place called Unidad Médica Centrolab in el centro offers it for 110 mil and domicilio for extra 13 mil and results within 24 hrs.


Could someone confirm whether the holiday lockdown in MDE has been extended or not? Looks like in Bogota it starts again this Friday until Monday, citywide, and then extended in some neighborhoods. Is MDE any better? I have read a couple of articles which said there are currently no new movement restrictions or business closures until they assess the situation and come up with a new plan.

Just Incognito
01-14-21, 05:33
I did a little recon on Google Street Maps and found this. This could be very easy to miss if you were not playing close attention. The problem is that you have to be right in front of this place to see the sign. These images show why. Like Nounce said it is located across from the white church (Iglesia De La Veracruz). These images are from 2019 according to Google. If this information is still accurate then it is located on Avenida Carabobo AKA Carrera 52 it is the first entrance in the second builiding on the east side of Carrera 52 just north of Calle 51. From the corner of Carrera 52 and Calle 51 you would head north (slightly northeast) on Carrera 52 and it is going to be on the right (the white church is on the left at this point).


These images are not loaded in the same order as they are describedGovindas. That restaurant you can see the sign for in one of those pictures. Highly suggested! Fantastic Vegan food--unbelievably inexpensive. A great Lunch or early dinner with fun views overlooking the scene.

Sangnyc21
01-14-21, 05:40
I'm in Medellin and what SangNyc21 said is correct. Curfew 10 pm-5 am starting this Thursday-Tuesday and can be extended. Pico why seedula is pretty much a given for rest of January, that's what I would assume. On another note, I read on CDC that they require any negative viral test to enter USA so that includes antigen or pcr. Antigen test has much faster results (within 24 hrs). There are lots of places in Medellin that offer that. A place called Unidad Mdica Centrolab in el centro offers it for 110 mil and domicilio for extra 13 mil and results within 24 hrs.I hear they are open even on curfew days til 2 am. Is this true?

And if so what happens if I'm in a cab at 2 am and run into a police checkpoint?

RacShack
01-14-21, 06:44
Damn they fucked everyone over now, now we got to find covid testing in 3rd world countries or we can't come back to America. Fkkk.

I have no problem getting a test to get in to Colombia but arranging one to get out could be more difficult.

It will be interesting to see how things develop in the next few weeks, I really don't want to cancel my Feb trip.

Anyone know where to get a reliable Covid test in MDE LOL?CentroLab cra 43 DD #8-56 ,220 cop results in 24 -48 hrs hope this helps everyone.

MarquisdeSade1
01-14-21, 06:57
I have the form I can send to anyone that needs it (just change the date and your name etc).

Also if anyone can share an antigen results test form for exiting COL "that would be great".

RiceRocket99
01-14-21, 07:20
Yes, taxistas have told me la isla is open even on curfew days, but I have not personally gone myself so I cannot give first hand knowledge whether it's open till 2 am. It's been years since I've hit a strip club, high end or low end. BTW, for reference purposes I'm def not a centro rat LOL, but I enjoy reading the centro stories here. Maybe one day I'll venture out again and hit the casas just to reminisce my virgin days in Medellin hitting New Life and shaking girls with sweaty ass hands (def turn off for me haha). Like Surfer or someone said, we all roll different and Medellíand can accommodate all types of mongers within legal means.

And yes, if you get caught out during curfew without a valid reason, you will face a fine. Think it's 800 mil+, but I have gone out before during curfew and haven't been caught yet LOL. Paying off police is my forte, so it is what it is.


I hear they are open even on curfew days til 2 am. Is this true?

And if so what happens if I'm in a cab at 2 am and run into a police checkpoint?

MongerHunger
01-14-21, 10:23
How about those who already got vaccine? I got my first dose of Pfizer-Biontec, getting the second dose in 2 weeks time. Do I also need to show a PCR test report?

Zux.The order says all international passengers entering the US, not some passengers. Besides, the vaccine is not 100% effective. Why would they exempt vaccinations when this pertains to every international traveler including US citizens? Read the CDC order thoroughly, it's pretty specific.

Poster99
01-14-21, 13:30
From medellinguru.com.

Nightly Curfew in Medellin and Antioquia from January 14 to 19.

Medellin and all of Antioquia will have strict nightly curfews starting on January 14 to 19 on the following days:

January 14 – 10 pm to 5 am.

January 15– 10 pm to 5 am.

January 16 – 10 pm to 5 am.

January 17 – 10 pm to 5 am.

January 18 – 10 pm to 5 am.

January 19 – 10 pm to 5 am.

Also, Medellin and the other nine municipalities in the Aburrá Valley will continue Pico why Cedula starting at midnight on January 15, which restricts shopping days based on the last digit of your ID. The Pico why Cedula restriction applies for going to grocery shops, malls, small tiendas, pharmacies and also includes banking and notary services.

If your ID ends with an even number (0, 2, 4, 6, 8) you can go out shopping on even days of the week. And if your ID ends with an odd number (1, 3, 5, 7, 9) you can go out on odd days of the week.

Zeos1
01-14-21, 14:18
I'm in Medellin and what SangNyc21 said is correct. Curfew 10 pm-5 am starting this Thursday-Tuesday and can be extended. Pico why seedula is pretty much a given for rest of January, that's what I would assume. On another note, I read on CDC that they require any negative viral test to enter USA so that includes antigen or pcr. Antigen test has much faster results (within 24 hrs). There are lots of places in Medellin that offer that. A place called Unidad Mdica Centrolab in el centro offers it for 110 mil and domicilio for extra 13 mil and results within 24 hrs.So. My take on the option of antigen vs. Pcr test.

The antigen test is to prove that you either had Covid already, and have some immunity to it, or you had a vaccine, and you have immunity to it. So the result on that would have to be positive.

The PCR is to test whether you have Covid. So the result would have to be negative for you to get on your plane back to US.

So. The antigen test would not help you unless it proves that you are immune. In other words the PCR test is really the only option.

It is not simply that you can take either test and get on the plane. A negative antigen test would be totally useless.

Osteoknot
01-14-21, 14:20
Last time I saw this chica she was new to the game and I bragged on here that she had the second tightest pussy I ever felt. I was her 3rd or 4th monger / mongerer back then, about a year ago, pre-Covid. Writing on the fly, she just left.

She's a solid Number 7 in my line-up. She has an unnatural attachment to me I think due to the timing and where her head was at the first time we fucked, at her house, while her mom and brother "went for a walk. " She had a full hot dinner plate cooked for me that was damn good and I ate it without hesitation.

She looks better now, she is taking more pride in her appearance otherwise known as it's a good business decision to make yourself look as attractive as possible when you are selling pussy, or ass, in her case. Who knows how many mongers she's fucked since I saw her, your guess is as good as mine and you may recognize her.

The Second Tightest Pussy award is no longer hers, but she still has a small tight pussy that can make me come even if I don't want to, and those are few and far between. Pussy pics to follow, I'm stacking them.

I helped her out from USA during COVID. Her mom kicked her out for not bringing in enough money with her pussy and fat ass. She had to get rid of her dog. She was traumatized as a result.

True to her word, so far she is giving it all back to me in pussy credits. She will, she is trying to think of extra ways to please me. Of course there were incidentals. I paid her taxi fare (dropped off by Uber, picked up by Uber) all I had were 50 mil notes so I tossed one at her. She showed up without a mask, I paid 5 mil for one on the street. She ordered Frisby's delivery for chicken and knew how to get a six pack of Coronas and a six pack of that other beer everyone drinks around here that starts with an "A," delivered super fast, and I gave her another 50 there.

What I got was she arrived at 6 PM, asked if she could stay all today ("No" Left at 7 AM this morning; Two bottles of Corona; four bites of Frisby's chicken (my fave chicken chain here); and the use of her body as my personal playground. Oh, I don't smoke pot but she took a hit and blew it in me during a kiss and I got high.

She was so high I would not take have taken her out in Public, plus she kept asking for "Three Crowns" and I thought she meant three shots of Crown Royal. She would have been unconscious if that were the case. Instead, she meant three Corona beers and she got those. I used my Pearl from last post, thinking she really would be unconscious, "Can I fuck you while you are asleep?" Still haven't gotten a no yet. Oh, and she sucks at blowjobs with too much of a gag reflex. I pinned her down face up and staddled her to fuck her face, she gagged, coughed and laughed instantly. We had a good laugh and I told her to get ready for her lessons starting next visit.

She has a friend who looks hot as fuck on video that she wants to bring in on a three-way. She looks fresh like she is just starting out. I will assume to be paying her half at the going rate.

I don't know about the status of the quarantine, it's not effecting how I roll. Crowds are big and normal again on Avenida 70 and chica last night got beer delivered to our room, I can't remember the time. I am easily going be able to use up my pussy credits with her, plus a lot of extra credit, and a good ROI.

Nounce
01-14-21, 15:17
So. The antigen test would not help you unless it proves that you are immune. Did you read the CDC announcement? I don't want to explain it wrong so I want to see your read on it.

RiceRocket99
01-14-21, 16:06
My head started to hurt after thinking about what you wrote haha. I don't have a medical background, so I can't provide any feedback. Guess I'll have to do some research on this. I don't fly out till February (3 months stay is up). I got time.


So. My take on the option of antigen vs. Pcr test.

The antigen test is to prove that you either had Covid already, and have some immunity to it, or you had a vaccine, and you have immunity to it. So the result on that would have to be positive.

The PCR is to test whether you have Covid. So the result would have to be negative for you to get on your plane back to US.

So. The antigen test would not help you unless it proves that you are immune. In other words the PCR test is really the only option.

It is not simply that you can take either test and get on the plane. A negative antigen test would be totally useless.

Tricksta
01-14-21, 16:47
My head started to hurt after thinking about what you wrote haha. I don't have a medical background, so I can't provide any feedback. Guess I'll have to do some research on this. I don't fly out till February (3 months stay is up). I got time.RiceRocket99 is correct in that the CDC order permits either a negative PCR or a negative antigen test to enter US on an airplane. Both of these tests, when negative, show that you are not currently infected with the virus. The antigen test is far preferable to PCR test because it is faster (some places in US you get the results in 15 minutes) and cheaper. Zeos1 appears to be confusing antigen tests with antibody tests. Antibody test is a blood test that looks for antibodies in your system that fought off the virus. Having a positive antibody test is good because it means that your virus infection / Covid case is behind you and so it is unlikely (though not impossible) that you will get re-infected. Said differently, a positive antibody test means that you have some level of natural immunity to the virus. The CDC order will not allow you to enter the US via airplane on the basis of a positive antibody test. Likewise, the order will not allow you to enter the US via airplane just on the basis that you have already been vaccinated.

Kinosellis
01-14-21, 16:49
So. My take on the option of antigen vs. Pcr test.

The antigen test is to prove that you either had Covid already, and have some immunity to it, or you had a vaccine, and you have immunity to it. So the result on that would have to be positive.

The PCR is to test whether you have Covid. So the result would have to be negative for you to get on your plane back to US.

So. The antigen test would not help you unless it proves that you are immune. In other words the PCR test is really the only option.

It is not simply that you can take either test and get on the plane. A negative antigen test would be totally useless.I had posted this previously. The CDC permits rapid testing or antigen. Antigen is the best test to take for purposes of getting on a plane to return home. It is on their website. If you're looking for a test that provides you more comfort then you should go with pcr. But, I only care about getting home so I will take the rapid test. Results in 15 to 45 minutes vs 3 to 5 days.

Osteoknot
01-14-21, 16:52
True that about budgets and planning, they have none, they get back to their family and friends and boyfriends and whatever they have it is gone.

You give them 2 mil and it is gone in 2 minutes.

You give 20 mil and its gone in 20 minutes.

You give 200 mil and it is gone in 2 hours.

You give 2,000,000 and it is gone in 2 days.

Bottom line no matter what they have it is gone quickly and 2 days later they are begging for pesos and willing to suck and fuck for 20 mil as they are hard up. But gawd we love these barrio paisa pussy.

The Tall Man.Loved your examples, had not heard that one. Another way we say it, to a Colombiana money is like a gas, it occupies all the available space. I slipped my #2 Novia a 50, she goes to work for 12 hours, comes back, can't pay 2 mil for a cafe. I asked her, "What happened to the fifty I gave you yesterday?" "I spent it," she replies. "On what?" Inquiring minds want to know. "Cosas" (things). Jjajajajajaja. I tell her I never met a Colombiana who can save money, she readily agreed saying, "We're not like that. " I tried to get Novia #1 to make a budget for our apartment and she did not understand the concept.

Gratuitoius new pussy foto. Low mileage, very smooth pussy on the inside. Fucked for a few hours on and off before this pic so poor liittle pussy is more gapey and puffy. Yeah, she needs to shave, I don't care. All my other chicas have shaved twats, I don't mind going naturale on her to break up the pattern a bit. Flash never does any pussy a favor, starts to look like a foto from an anatomy book, but the room was dark.

Zeos1
01-14-21, 17:44
Did you read the CDC announcement? I don't want to explain it wrong so I want to see your read on it.I did. The headline says it all. A PCR test, or proof of recovery. Proof of recovery is a positive antigen test. A negative antigen test is useless. It means you have never had Covid, says nothing about whether you have it at the time of test.

So what will work for everyone is a negative PCR test. Which means you don't currently have it. By all means get the other one if you know or think you have had Covid. But if it doesn't show that then you will need the PCR test for sure.

Nounce
01-14-21, 18:13
I did. The headline says it all. A PCR test, or proof of recovery. Proof of recovery is a positive antigen test. A negative antigen test is useless. It means you have never had Covid, says nothing about whether you have it at the time of test.

So what will work for everyone is a negative PCR test. Which means you don't currently have it. By all means get the other one if you know or think you have had Covid. But if it doesn't show that then you will need the PCR test for sure.Anyone interested, this is from CDC website.



CDC does not recommend getting tested again in the three months after a positive viral test, as long as you do not have symptoms of COVID-19. If you have had a positive viral test in the past 3 months, and you have met the criteria to end isolation, you may travel instead with documentation of your positive viral test results and a letter from your healthcare provider or a public health official that states you have been cleared for travel. The positive test result and letter together are referred to as “documentation of recovery.”

Conick2000
01-14-21, 18:20
From medellinguru.com.

Nightly Curfew in Medellin and Antioquia from January 14 to 19.

Medellin and all of Antioquia will have strict nightly curfews starting on January 14 to 19 on the following days:

January 14 10 pm to 5 am.

January 15 10 pm to 5 am.

January 16 10 pm to 5 am.

January 17 10 pm to 5 am.

January 18 10 pm to 5 am.

January 19 10 pm to 5 am.

Also, Medellin and the other nine municipalities in the Aburr Valley will continue Pico why Cedula starting at midnight on January 15, which restricts shopping days based on the last digit of your ID. The Pico why Cedula restriction applies for going to grocery shops, malls, small tiendas, pharmacies and also includes banking and notary services.

If your ID ends with an even number (0, 2, 4, 6, 8) you can go out shopping on even days of the week. And if your ID ends with an odd number (1, 3, 5, 7, 9) you can go out on odd days of the week.Dam. You cannot even go to the mall unless it's your day.

Black Page
01-14-21, 18:42
In the last posts, I noted "antigen" tests were confused with "antibody" tests, for example but not only by Zeos1 (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2521844&viewfull=1#post2521844).

Antigen tests seek specific proteins from the surface of the virus called "antigen". PCR tests seek the DNA. Antigen tests are intended to find if the virus is present, as PCR tests, but are less reliable than PCR.

What Zeos1 and other posters meant to mention is the test for antibodies, but he used the word "antigen". I don't want to be pedantic, but the difference is substantial.

Poster99
01-14-21, 18:49
Dam. You cannot even go to the mall unless it's your day.The reason for the precautions is ICU occupancy, 85%. It is unlikely things will change until that number comes down. It seems to be increasing modestly.

My experience with pico y cedula as well as reports from others, is that enforcement is minimal. I have a cedula and passport, one ending with an odd number, the other even. I have no problem using either. When I use my passport, no one has paid attention since they're either not familiar with where the number is or they just don't care, probably the latter. Having said that, I avoid malls anyway due to covid. However, I go to one outdoor mall every morning for cafe and huevos.

JohnnyWalker55
01-14-21, 18:53
I did. The headline says it all. A PCR test, or proof of recovery. Proof of recovery is a positive antigen test. A negative antigen test is useless. It means you have never had Covid, says nothing about whether you have it at the time of test.

So what will work for everyone is a negative PCR test. Which means you don't currently have it. By all means get the other one if you know or think you have had Covid. But if it doesn't show that then you will need the PCR test for sure.Zeos,

The CDC website:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html

When you scroll down:

"What is a verifiable test result?

A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result. Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight. ".

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but zeos saying "a negative antigen test is useless". Is incorrect.

The website clearly states you can show the "negative results of an antigen test" prior to boarding.

And I believe the antigen (rapid) test can be those fast tests that can show results in an hour, not the PCR that take a few days.

Ill be in MDE next month, looking for clarification. so far what I have concluded:
-negative PCR test 96 hours or less before entry to colombia
-Negative antigen (rapid) test 72 hours prior to entry into the United States

Yetiecv
01-14-21, 19:08
Zeos is confusing antigen with antibody. You need a negative antigen test.

Husker Dude
01-14-21, 19:40
Zeos,

The CDC website:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html

When you scroll down:

"What is a verifiable test result?

A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result. Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight. ".

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but zeos saying "a negative antigen test is useless". Is incorrect.

The website clearly states you can show the "negative results of an antigen test" prior to boarding.

And I believe the antigen (rapid) test can be those fast tests that can show results in an hour, not the PCR that take a few days.

Ill be in MDE next month, looking for clarification. so far what I have concluded:
-negative PCR test 96 hours or less before entry to colombia
-Negative antigen (rapid) test 72 hours prior to entry into the United StatesYou and Black Page are correct. Zeos1 made a few incorrect statements.

Elvis 2008
01-14-21, 20:08
I did. The headline says it all. A PCR test, or proof of recovery. Proof of recovery is a positive antigen test. A negative antigen test is useless. It means you have never had Covid, says nothing about whether you have it at the time of test.

So what will work for everyone is a negative PCR test. Which means you don't currently have it. By all means get the other one if you know or think you have had Covid. But if it doesn't show that then you will need the PCR test for sure.No, this is wrong.

An antigen test can be done in 15 minutes. If it is +, it means you are currently infected with Covid.

A PCR test takes hours typically at least 24 to get your result.

Both Colombia and the USA accept PCR tests. Colombia does not accept the antigen test. The USA does.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html#text=On%20 January%2012%2 C%202021%2 C%20 CDC, airline%20 before%20 boarding%20 the%20 flight.

"Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19."

So if you are taking a trip from the USA to Colombia, you need to plan at a minimum of two days in advance to get the PCR test. With the antigen test to get back to the USA, you can go into an urgent care clinic in Colombia and get the results same day.

As for this part, "or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 to the airline before boarding the flight", this is to give people an out who have had the vaccine or have had a Covid infection previously and have formed antibodies to the virus. Unless you know for sure you have had Covid or got the vaccines weeks before, I do NOT recommend using this method.

If you have gotten the vaccine, I DO recommend this test because it has no time limit.

"CDC issued an Order requiring all air passengers arriving to the US from a foreign country to get tested no more than 3 days before their flight departs and to provide proof of the negative result OR documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 to the airline before boarding the flight."

So the smart thing to do is get the vaccine. Wait 4 to 6 weeks before going. Get a PCR test here and the antibody test here. Once you have a negative PCR test for Covid and a positive antibody test, you will have no problems getting into Colombia and leaving from there.

In fact, I suspect soon you will be able to go anywhere if you have a negative PCR and positive antibody test.

In short, here is what I recommend.

No vaccine: negative PCR test from USA to enter Colombia done within 96 hours of flight. Negative antigen test from Colombia to enter USA 72 hours before your flight.

Vaccine or known history of Covid infection: negative PCR test from USA to enter Colombia done within 96 hours of flight. For entrance to USA: positive antibody test and that can be done at any time. I recommend this being done in USA before leaving for Colombia.

Yes, it is confusing.

Antigen and PCR test show current infection.

Positive antibody test shows previous infection or vaccine was given.

Zeos1
01-14-21, 20:59
You and Black Page are correct. Zeos1 made a few incorrect statements.Not to be too defensive here. I could be wrong for sure. But the statement that says the positive result for the antigen test must be within the previous 3 months. That makes no sense if it is just another test for active covid.

But for sure something is wrong with the statement on the site. Because these statements are not consistent.

"A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result. Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight. ".

Anyway, in my mind needs more clarification. And yes, I did think that the antigen test was to test for antibodies. If that is not correct my apologies. I'll dig a bit deeper.

Zeos1
01-14-21, 21:02
Not to be too defensive here. I could be wrong for sure. But the statement that says the positive result for the antigen test must be within the previous 3 months. That makes no sense if it is just another test for active covid.

But for sure something is wrong with the statement on the site. Because these statements are not consistent.

"A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result. Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight. ".

Anyway, in my mind needs more clarification. And yes, I did think that the antigen test was to test for antibodies. If that is not correct my apologies. I'll dig a bit deeper.Correct, my apologies. PCR test and antigen tests are both for active Covid. The serological test is the one I was thinking of.

RiceRocket99
01-14-21, 21:07
That's what I thought, thanks for the clarification!


RiceRocket99 is correct in that the CDC order permits either a negative PCR or a negative antigen test to enter US on an airplane. Both of these tests, when negative, show that you are not currently infected with the virus. The antigen test is far preferable to PCR test because it is faster (some places in US you get the results in 15 minutes) and cheaper. Zeos1 appears to be confusing antigen tests with antibody tests. Antibody test is a blood test that looks for antibodies in your system that fought off the virus. Having a positive antibody test is good because it means that your virus infection / Covid case is behind you and so it is unlikely (though not impossible) that you will get re-infected. Said differently, a positive antibody test means that you have some level of natural immunity to the virus. The CDC order will not allow you to enter the US via airplane on the basis of a positive antibody test. Likewise, the order will not allow you to enter the US via airplane just on the basis that you have already been vaccinated.

Just Incognito
01-14-21, 21:59
I was just offered an opportunity to go to Medellin for 1 or 2 weeks in either late January or early February.

But I just don't know if I should.

I need some girls and some action.

I don't really want to get Covid.

And I would need to figure out how and where to get a test 48 hours before I leave so I can get back to where I need to go.

What to do What to do?

I'd want to bring some girls to my room, hit Luna Lunera and La Isla, the centro strip clubs in the day, a good meal at Govindas if its open, some falafel time LOL, and more girls from my facebook and prior trip list. What to do What to do?

Its hard to know how different or risky it is these days and what the truth is! Part of me is like-they just offered you 2 weeks paid vacation GO! And part of me is like. Wait until you're vaccinated hopefully by April??

Surfer500
01-14-21, 22:16
In the last posts, I noted "antigen" tests were confused with "antibody" tests, for example but not only by Zeos1 (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2521844&viewfull=1#post2521844).

Antigen tests seek specific proteins from the surface of the virus called "antigen". PCR tests seek the DNA. Antigen tests are intended to find if the virus is present, as PCR tests, but are less reliable than PCR.

What Zeos1 and other posters meant to mention is the test for antibodies, but he used the word "antigen". I don't want to be pedantic, but the difference is substantial.So I've been following these testing posts and have a question. I should be getting vaccinated soon, and want to know which test to get for entry into Colombia are they still only accepting the PCR test, and return to the USA. Assuming of course I'm not infected, which test would be the best for returning to the USA. Thanks in advance.

JjBee62
01-14-21, 22:58
Not to be too defensive here. I could be wrong for sure. But the statement that says the positive result for the antigen test must be within the previous 3 months. That makes no sense if it is just another test for active covid.

But for sure something is wrong with the statement on the site. Because these statements are not consistent.

"A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result. Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight. ".

Anyway, in my mind needs more clarification. And yes, I did think that the antigen test was to test for antibodies. If that is not correct my apologies. I'll dig a bit deeper.I think I can make it clear for you.

If you have had a positive antigen test within the last 3 months, you can fly if you have a doctor's note explaining that you are no longer contagious. I believe this is due to a CDC guideline that you not be retested within 3 months after a positive test.

Nounce
01-14-21, 23:22
Not to be too defensive here. I could be wrong for sure. But the statement that says the positive result for the antigen test must be within the previous 3 months. That makes no sense if it is just another test for active covid.I think CDC assumes the person will be immune for at least 3 months so there is no need to test again.

Yetiecv
01-15-21, 03:30
I have a trip scheduled for February 3rd, and staying the whole month. I'm mid 30's and not necessarily worried about the virus itself but what I am worried about is lockdowns and curfews. I have until the 29th to decide for a full refund and schedule out at a later date.

Zeos1
01-15-21, 04:41
I think I can make it clear for you.

If you have had a positive antigen test within the last 3 months, you can fly if you have a doctor's note explaining that you are no longer contagious. I believe this is due to a CDC guideline that you not be retested within 3 months after a positive test.Thanks. Yep, makes sense.

Surfer500
01-15-21, 04:49
I was just offered an opportunity to go to Medellin for 1 or 2 weeks in either late January or early February.

But I just don't know if I should.

I need some girls and some action.

I don't really want to get Covid.

And I would need to figure out how and where to get a test 48 hours before I leave so I can get back to where I need to go.

What to do What to do?

I'd want to bring some girls to my room, hit Luna Lunera and La Isla, the centro strip clubs in the day, a good meal at Govindas if its open, some falafel time LOL, and more girls from my facebook and prior trip list. What to do What to do?

Its hard to know how different or risky it is these days and what the truth is! Part of me is like-they just offered you 2 weeks paid vacation GO! And part of me is like. Wait until you're vaccinated hopefully by April??If you decide to come down to Colombia you should confirm whether or not there are any three day weekends, meaning are there any Holidays on a Monday as they have had a propensity to have stay at home orders during those weekends. Also given how fluid and quickly things could change with weekend lockdowns, what might happen is you buy a ticket and then they have a weekend lockdown. Therefore I would suggest arriving on say a Sunday night. This last week a few members showed up like on Thursday and then were locked down from Friday night until Tuesday morning after the Holiday on Monday, so unless they had a companion, or dared to venture out like one member you might be stuck. Also line up as many of your previous contacts as you can which you can always cancel. When I came down in November I utilized a similar strategy to a certain degree. As far as COVID, well that's a crap shoot for sure, and if you think you will be vaccinated by April, you will have a lot more piece of mind while mongering. A tough decision for you but if you still get the paid vacation in April and can get vaccinated well then I guess you just wait it out with the action you can get with Rosy Palms!

Moso2
01-15-21, 05:15
Yes your black gal experience at the strip club (I think I know the girl you session-ed with), love it and the thing is that these off the chart sex escapades happen more times than not, like you did you just need a little patience and observation and selection then bamn and you have memories to last well until the next one.

I know some of the doorman there as we have been friends for some years now when they use to work at another strip club, well I have photos of just about every gal that works there, I promised never to share these photos with anyone, but to the story we are setting up a 3 or 4 day finca party in the coming weeks and we will have a half dozen of the girls for the whole weekend of sexcapades and debauchery, hehehehe and your tall black girl will probably be the leader of the pack. Gawd I love Medellin!

The Tall Man.I went to Grill Avenida Nueva today and was looking for the taller black lady. I ended up seeing two ladies and went to the back with one of them.

I really enjoyed my session with the alta flacita who has very nice lips and eyes as well as a really nice pear shaped bottom. I was hanging out with another bacano Colombian who was drinking aguaardiente. Paola said 55 k for a 40 minute session which included the 15 k cuarto and included servicios ofrecidos, oral al natural and besos. I have been bringing small water based lubricant which makes a big difference and I used my own preservativo. Their room setup is pretty crazy. You duck underneath a door which flips out from the DJ booth and then walk through another door. There is a shower, but the water is cold. I really enjoyed the time with her and I would do it again. The other girl is darker and has larger hips / caderas and larger breasts and is more animated. The other girl is probably the one that consumed the jewels and cajones.

I had taken the metro at around 4 pm for 2.7 k, but I left in a taxi at about 8:30 pm. Taxi damage was 20 k. I might try and take the metro back next time. Most of the shops were closing down and I was solo.

Moso2
01-15-21, 05:27
I tried to post full size photos in my reply. Here are two photos of Paola for my reply.

GeneHickman
01-15-21, 05:36
I was just offered an opportunity to go to Medellin for 1 or 2 weeks in either late January or early February.

But I just don't know if I should.

I need some girls and some action.

I don't really want to get Covid.

And I would need to figure out how and where to get a test 48 hours before I leave so I can get back to where I need to go.

What to do What to do?

I'd want to bring some girls to my room, hit Luna Lunera and La Isla, the centro strip clubs in the day, a good meal at Govindas if its open, some falafel time LOL, and more girls from my facebook and prior trip list. What to do What to do?

Its hard to know how different or risky it is these days and what the truth is! Part of me is like-they just offered you 2 weeks paid vacation GO! And part of me is like. Wait until you're vaccinated hopefully by April??Dude, people who are vaccinated still don't know what the fuck to do! Most of us have lives to come back to in a timely manner. A postive test has real implications in all sorts of ways beyond the health ones. This policy is ludicrous and will be hard to implement well in my opinion. We also need data about what happens when vaccinated people are exposed, do they get no covid, mild or asymptomatic covid, or what exactly if they do get exposed. And are they infectious or not. Because the worst thing that can happen is you go on a short trip to escape for a few days, are feeling 100% fine a few days later, and get a nasty surprise, a positive antigen or PCR test the day before you leave and are thus stranded for 2 wks! Try explaining that to your employer and whoever else in your life. This policy as with so many implemented with this pandemic has not been based on facts, well considered or arguably even practical and solution oriented. It is just killing short term travel of all kinds not just mongering. Who would chance a family vacation to the Bahamas for example? I hope the travel industry presses for and gets some answers. I had a short early Feb. Trip planned and likely going to have to postpone. Just giving myself the next 2 wks to see how things evolve.

GeneHickman
01-15-21, 05:47
No, this is wrong.

An antigen test can be done in 15 minutes. If it is +, it means you are currently infected with Covid.

A PCR test takes hours typically at least 24 to get your result.

Both Colombia and the USA accept PCR tests. Colombia does not accept the antigen test. The USA does.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html#text=On%20 January%2012%2 C%202021%2 C%20 CDC, airline%20 before%20 boarding%20 the%20 flight.

"Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19."

So if you are taking a trip from the USA to Colombia, you need to plan at a minimum of two days in advance to get the PCR test. With the antigen test to get back to the USA, you can go into an urgent care clinic in Colombia and get the results same day.

As for this part, "or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 to the airline before boarding the flight", this is to give people an out who have had the vaccine or have had a Covid infection previously and have formed antibodies to the virus. Unless you know for sure you have had Covid or got the vaccines weeks before, I do NOT recommend using this method.

If you have gotten the vaccine, I DO recommend this test because it has no time limit.

"CDC issued an Order requiring all air passengers arriving to the US from a foreign country to get tested no more than 3 days before their flight departs and to provide proof of the negative result OR documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 to the airline before boarding the flight."

So the smart thing to do is get the vaccine. Wait 4 to 6 weeks before going. Get a PCR test here and the antibody test here. Once you have a negative PCR test for Covid and a positive antibody test, you will have no problems getting into Colombia and leaving from there.

In fact, I suspect soon you will be able to go anywhere if you have a negative PCR and positive antibody test.

In short, here is what I recommend.

No vaccine: negative PCR test from USA to enter Colombia done within 96 hours of flight. Negative antigen test from Colombia to enter USA 72 hours before your flight.

Vaccine or known history of Covid infection: negative PCR test from USA to enter Colombia done within 96 hours of flight. For entrance to USA: positive antibody test and that can be done at any time. I recommend this being done in USA before leaving for Colombia.

Yes, it is confusing.

Antigen and PCR test show current infection.

Positive antibody test shows previous infection or vaccine was given.But the antibody test alone is not accepted by the CDC. They specifically say antigen test or PCR.

Elvis 2008
01-15-21, 06:47
But the antibody test alone is not accepted by the CDC. They specifically say antigen test or PCR.Antigen test or PCR test or someone who has recovered from Covid. The only objective way to say someone has recovered from Covid is the antibody test, and you are right it is not FDA approved. I just am assuming that is what it means.

The vaccines just became available a few weeks ago. Granted, some people like MDS got them in the trials but most people do not. I know a ton of people who got the first vaccine but only one who has gotten both. So once there are more people with the vaccine, I bet the CDC will address it again.

If it is two weeks after your second Covid vaccine injection, I am not sure you really should not have to do any testing.

Elvis 2008
01-15-21, 06:52
So I've been following these testing posts and have a question. I should be getting vaccinated soon, and want to know which test to get for entry into Colombia are they still only accepting the PCR test, and return to the USA. Assuming of course I'm not infected, which test would be the best for returning to the USA. Thanks in advance.The antigen test for USA.

PCR for Colombia.

The Tall Man
01-15-21, 12:30
I was just offered an opportunity to go to Medellin for 1 or 2 weeks in either late January or early February.

But I just don't know if I should.

I need some girls and some action.

I don't really want to get Covid.

And I would need to figure out how and where to get a test 48 hours before I leave so I can get back to where I need to go.

What to do What to do?

I'd want to bring some girls to my room, hit Luna Lunera and La Isla, the centro strip clubs in the day, a good meal at Govindas if its open, some falafel time LOL, and more girls from my facebook and prior trip list. What to do What to do?

Its hard to know how different or risky it is these days and what the truth is! Part of me is like-they just offered you 2 weeks paid vacation GO! And part of me is like. Wait until you're vaccinated hopefully by April??So late yesterday afternoon my good Colombian buddy calls me and says hey lets check out the centro clubs just in case the mayor decides to close things down tomorrow for the weekend so off we went.

We checked out about 5 clubs in and around centro from 7 pm till they closed at 10 pm, had a drink or two in each, saw some familiar faces and some new ones, got a few contact numbers, I was tempted to pull the trigger in one of the bars (Occidental) but decided not, my buddy found a sweet heart on the street whom he had at his finca last weekend and so he went to her hotel room for 45 minutes as I hung with a few friends who own a business over in Radual street, then at about 10:30 pm my ATF whom I had not seen for a year and lost contact with her wham she comes running up to me, left centro with her in tow and drove my buddy home to his finca and had incredible sex last night like you do with a long lost love, which she is hehehehe.

I awoke at 5 am this morning and she is still sleeping.

Life is good here in Medellin.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

Osteoknot
01-15-21, 12:35
I blocked this chica nine months ago, I don't remember exactly why, probably asking for money. I unblocked her yesterday and within 2 hours she pings me (Twilight Zone theme song plays in head).

I met her about a year ago when she was a Hamster cam model here in Medellin. I convinced her to leave the studio and take a taxi directly to my hotel and fuck me first night I was in her Room. I have the original transcript from that encounter and I will post it here if I can find it, it's freakin' hilarious.

Anywho she wants to see me tonight. She thinks I am her boyfriend. She's crazy. Certifiable. So much for my blue ball break and first time off since arriving. I have been fucking day and night since I arrived in the middle of the quarantine and lockdown. My anchor girl so far, La Gacela, is working 12 hour night shifts, six nights a week. She comes over during days and stays in my hotel bed and I fuck her as much as I want whether she is asleep or awake. She asked me for 30 mil pesos yesterday for some hair straightener and that was the first time I gave her money this trip. She is gone from 4 P to 8 A which is a great time for most of these other girls to come out and play. Couldn't have planned it better and I didn't plan it. Typical.

So, what to do? I want to fuck Cray Cray Girl her but I don't want to go through another one of her psycho-stalking-stages, afterwards.

I was pretty lazy this time and I booked the second room in my same hotel. Usually I will use a nearby hotel for a second room, or more. My real room is in the front of the building, 2nd floor. We will be in the back on the 3rd floor, different stairwells. Obviously make the room look used before she arrives. Throw a little change around, that is a great prop. Carried some trash in from my other room.

She should never know about my real room at the opposite end of this hotel. 40.000 pesos or $11.51 for the second room. Make sure you tell the girl at the front desk two things: Not to let it slip out about your real room, and which room you will be in for the arrival call. I will finish this report after she leaves or as always I will be stone cold honest and tell you if she ghosts me.

(Break).

Purrfekt example why over planning is often a futile exercise. I am sitting in my real room at the front of the hotel with my door open and she waltzes in at 10 PM, jajajaja. My Spanish must not be as good as I thought because the girl at the front desk sent her right up. Oh well. Cray Cray Chica got fat, but she is still sexy as hell with a great pussy. Wasted 40 K on the second room. BFD. Mostly we just did a lot of her favorite, which is standard cowboy. She is very quirky and specific. She doesn't like to be kissed, or even touched. The only thing she wants touching her and to feel, is dick. Sounds awful, but I learned to work with it, and she makes up for it like this. She can make me climax in cowboy position when I am relaxed, lay still and don't move a muscle. She is super energetic. Just like old times I held her cell phone over my face while she rode me, so she could watch porn on her phone instead of making eye contact. I love being objectified like that.

I gave her 50 mil for transport both ways, one of the 20 NYC T's I brought back for just such an occasion, the extra room cost above, and a bottle of mango juice. She was picking thru my stuff and I gave her five dental picks, the kind with a little piece of floss built in and you would have thought I gave her another 50 mil note, jajaja. She had never seen one before. Under 100 mil.

She wants to spend all day Saturday with me, might work. One day like that and two more night visits and I will be at the break even for my ROI. La Gacela's birthday is Sunday and her first day off since I arrived. She will be here after her night shift in a couple hours. More to follow.

Knowledge
01-15-21, 15:03
As I've written before it seems clear that the entry requirement the United States announced it will put in place January 26 is a negative PCR test result. The enforcement is at the point of departure. Airlines are to verify the requirement is met as a condition of boarding.

I started this thread of discussion so I now reserve the right to end it or at least ask that it be moved elsewhere. Since yesterday it has become circular and thus of little use.


But the antibody test alone is not accepted by the CDC. They specifically say antigen test or PCR.

RiceRocket99
01-15-21, 17:16
Back at it again. 24 curfew starts today 8 pm till 5 am Monday. Stay safe and stock up in food, liquor and pussy!

Surfer500
01-15-21, 17:24
Antigen test or PCR test or someone who has recovered from Covid. The only objective way to say someone has recovered from Covid is the antibody test, and you are right it is not FDA approved. I just am assuming that is what it means.

The vaccines just became available a few weeks ago. Granted, some people like MDS got them in the trials but most people do not. I know a ton of people who got the first vaccine but only one who has gotten both. So once there are more people with the vaccine, I bet the CDC will address it again.

If it is two weeks after your second Covid vaccine injection, I am not sure you really should not have to do any testing.You would think that something similar to the Yellow Fever Vaccination Documentation system but digitally, versus a yellow booklet would be set up for COVID worldwide, but perhaps it's premature given all of the vaccines in the works, and the efficacy of them. In other words, a vaccine with less than 90% efficacy wouldn't be considered.

JohnnyO
01-15-21, 18:07
So late yesterday afternoon my good Colombian buddy calls me and says hey lets check out the centro clubs just in case the mayor decides to close things down tomorrow for the weekend so off we went.

We checked out about 5 clubs in and around centro from 7 pm till they closed at 10 pm, had a drink or two in each, saw some familiar faces and some new ones, got a few contact numbers, I was tempted to pull the trigger in one of the bars (Occidental) but decided not, my buddy found a sweet heart on the street whom he had at his finca last weekend and so he went to her hotel room for 45 minutes as I hung with a few friends who own a business over in Radual street, then at about 10:30 pm my ATF whom I had not seen for a year and lost contact with her wham she comes running up to me, left centro with her in tow and drove my buddy home to his finca and had incredible sex last night like you do with a long lost love, which she is hehehehe.

I awoke at 5 am this morning and she is still sleeping.

Life is good here in Medellin.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.Man I probably passed by you yesterday. I'm still exploring Centro and looking for new ground, yesterday I also went to Occidental for the first time. Interesting place, a few chubbys. Did you see the lighter skinned girl in the dreads, black dress bouncing her booty around, I was thinking about taking her but didn't session in the end.


Yes your black gal experience at the strip club (I think I know the girl you session-ed with), love it and the thing is that these off the chart sex escapades happen more times than not, like you did you just need a little patience and observation and selection then bamn and you have memories to last well until the next one.

I know some of the doorman there as we have been friends for some years now when they use to work at another strip club, well I have photos of just about every gal that works there, I promised never to share these photos with anyone, but to the story we are setting up a 3 or 4 day finca party in the coming weeks and we will have a half dozen of the girls for the whole weekend of sexcapades and debauchery, hehehehe and your tall black girl will probably be the leader of the pack. Gawd I love Medellin!

The Tall Man.That black girl is an interesting character, apparently she's coming to visit me in the morning to pamper me and bring me a gift. Avenida de grill IMHO is the best of the bunch.

I don't like cornejectos, I find it boring and a girls a bit unfriendly but it opens later than others. Also been to Victoria Taberna, a couple of cuties in there but I heard the rooms are awful.

There is another around the corner from Victoria Taberna can't rember the name. Finally I found a whole in the wall strip club. I've been told they turned haf the original into a motorbike parking lot during the pandemic.

Any other bars or strip clubs around centro that I missed or should check out?

P.S. Surfer no she did not swallow but I got lucky twice in a row. Long story short. Second girl after the black girl at the whole in the wall place mounts me bare, forces my head down to eat her out, my kinda hooker. In the end as I'm finishing over her, again mouth wide open "La Boca". Takes the whole lot proudly gargles it and then sees a bit more left on my cock and slurps that off as well, doesn't swallow though. Wow.

One more note. I like new life but it gets busy so you have to wait to see only a few girls at a time. Some hotties are taking before they even start so my go to is Zandaly.

Osteoknot
01-15-21, 19:26
I noticed yesterday there have been notices on television about another lock down this weekend. They talk too fast for me to be certain but it seems to be only for Saturday and Sunday. If I can get confirmation I will post again, but if that is correct it would be less that half the length of this past weekend's lock down that went from Fri night to Tue morning, I believe. I got here Sat night and there was definitely a lock down in place. And when it ended at 5:30 AM on Tue it was like someone flipped a switch. The crowds and traffic were instantly restored. Sorry if I am not more help. I am not super motivated because it has little or no effect on what I got goin' on at the moment. La Gacela's birthday is Sunday and her first day off since I arrived. We will stock up on snacks and beer, use the hotel refrigerator for the cold stuff, and screw our brains out all weekend.

Couple of gratuitous photos of her ass from today.

Surfer500
01-15-21, 19:53
Man I probably passed by you yesterday. I'm still exploring Centro and looking for new ground, yesterday I also went to Occidental for the first time. Interesting place, a few chubbys. Did you see the lighter skinned girl in the dreads, black dress bouncing her booty around, I was thinking about taking her but didn't session in the end.

That black girl is an interesting character, apparently she's coming to visit me in the morning to pamper me and bring me a gift. Avenida de grill IMHO is the best of the bunch.

I don't like cornejectos, I find it boring and a girls a bit unfriendly but it opens later than others. Also been to Victoria Taberna, a couple of cuties in there but I heard the rooms are awful.

There is another around the corner from Victoria Taberna can't rember the name. Finally I found a whole in the wall strip club. I've been told they turned haf the original into a motorbike parking lot during the pandemic..I cannot recommend any bars or clubs to check out, I don't like the atmosphere, the way they work, along with the loud noise and smoke so I rarely frequent them.

When you get tired of the "bar / club crawl" perhaps try some "lurking". Show up at the Intersection of Carrera / Calle 52 aka "ground zero" around 4 PM in the afternoon as a lot of girls show up around then who work into the early evening and there are still girls from the day shift who will be leaving after it gets dark. You can get some exercise by taking laps around the Church and the backside with it's rows of bars, and alongside the Museum along with walking around the Statues and Park. It seems as though a lot of girls have places that they hang, almost like their spot or perch, albeit a lot float around the area.

So seeing that your already a seasoned veteran when it comes to doing nasty stuff with the girls, and that's a compliment, you should partake again with some of the SW's in the love motels besides the bar / clubs. If you have the time and the patience to mine the area, it will pan out well for you as anything goes there! And you might want to try a Colombian SW versus a Venezuelan SW, I seem to have better luck with them.

Moso2
01-15-21, 20:30
I tried to post full size photos in my reply. Here are two photos of Paola for my reply.55 k includes 15 k room charge. You need to ask if the quoted price includes the room charge as well as which services are included. Initially she quoted 40 k. You pay at the register and she will receive a sticky note, etc. She has a really good attitude and an amazing pear shaped bottom.

Cuanto me cobra?

Incluye el precio del cuarto?

Que servicios incluye?

Paulie97
01-15-21, 20:35
I have a trip scheduled for February 3rd, and staying the whole month. I'm mid 30's and not necessarily worried about the virus itself but what I am worried about is lockdowns and curfews. I have until the 29th to decide for a full refund and schedule out at a later date.Only you can decide. The situation is worsening in Colombia. You can follow the graphs as to daily new cases and deaths.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/colombia/

That said, there have been guys there during the worst of restrictions, curfews, etc. And they had no regrets. Look up posts from Slapshot and Blakman.

Don't expect there to be any significant vaccine rollouts there in the near future. The primary purpose of the restrictions is to prevent the hospital systems from becoming overwhelmed.

It's easy to keep up with Colombian news online. Look up the newspaper El Tiempo. It's of course translatable.

The Tall Man
01-16-21, 00:50
Man I probably passed by you yesterday. I'm still exploring Centro and looking for new ground, yesterday I also went to Occidental for the first time. Interesting place, a few chubbys. Did you see the lighter skinned girl in the dreads, black dress bouncing her booty around, I was thinking about taking her but didn't session in the end.

That black girl is an interesting character, apparently she's coming to visit me in the morning to pamper me and bring me a gift. Avenida de grill IMHO is the best of the bunch.

I don't like cornejectos, I find it boring and a girls a bit unfriendly but it opens later than others. Also been to Victoria Taberna, a couple of cuties in there but I heard the rooms are awful.

There is another around the corner from Victoria Taberna can't rember the name. Finally I found a whole in the wall strip club. I've been told they turned haf the original into a motorbike parking lot during the pandemic..Small world, we were like two ships passing in the middle of the night.

Yes I too have been in all of them at one time or another in the past 3 or 4 years, just last night hit 4 of them and yes although at times you can find a fun girl in any of these clubs right now Avenida de grill has the best but again this could change as in a month or two another one will go on a new hiring blitz, that's half the fun is that you never know until you check it out.

Yes when I walked into Occidental that chic with the dread locks was stripping, not bad at all. My Colombian buddy swears on the gals in their, load of fun.

As for Victoria Taberna yes I have stopped in a few times in the past 2 years, once actually was drinking with a real nice great attitude paisa, the last time I went in was with my gringo buddy about 2 months back and believe it or not there were 2 or 3 that were doable and dare I say even cute but have never pulled the trigger in that place as I could just imagine what the rooms look like.

Now you photo is interesting as it is the old stage / seating area of BARRA Executive (next to Maracaibo club) and yes they turned this into a front for the hidden club that you have to get into via a small hidden door at the back end of the motorcycle parking. This club was indeed opened DURING the quarantine and my friends and I actually visited and partied in the club like 5 months ago during the lock down.

Now the other club not far from Victoria located on Avenida de Grieff and facing the side of the museum well I went in there once, maybe 2 years back, and never went back in, just real seedy but I may need to re-visit it.

Even though I have been in Conejitas Grill a dozen or more times in the past 3 years, the most recent visit being last night, I have never pulled the trigger but for the only reason is that the 2 or 3 cuties were occupied at tables with guys and they all have a bottle to drink so was not willing to wait around an hour or more until they finish the bottle hehehe.

These are the clubs with no others that I am aware of other than the bars where you drink.

The Tall Man.

Daner212
01-16-21, 01:15
I just arrived here this morning to find that they've issued a curfew. I read a little bit on here of the possibility that La Isla might be open regardless off the curfew. Can anyone confirm this to be true? It would be much appreciated.

Osteoknot
01-16-21, 01:16
This is the same girl, "Fat Ass Sweet Pussy Hole" I just posted earlier and fucked late last night, early this morning. I have known this Girl longer than I thought. I was in Medellin, looking at Web cam models on-line, I must've gotten her What'sApp number I assume, really, I don't remember. I do remember thinking, dayuuumm, I can't believe this is going to happen, then happened. I changed her name. The turning point occurred at 11:22 jajajajaja and I laughed in her face. Classic. Please note, I got her there by telling her I would not touch her, but that quickly changed to fucking all her holes. When she showed up she tried a shy act for about 2 minutes. I walked over to the door to my room, telling her, "I will give you taxi fare, leave now. " I opened the door, and when I turned around she was naked from waist down, face up on my bed, with her knees up by her ears, jajajajaja.

{11:00 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Can you do me in favor, I need it urgently. Is that I got the bill from the Internet and the rental of the house. Could you lend me the money until next week I pay you.

{11:01 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I never met you in person, I won't lend you money, not one peso.

{11:01 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: But I need that urgent money tomorrow, the payment bill has arrived, love.

{11:04 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Come to my hotel room now and use both your hands to open your pussy wide and I'll give you 150 thousand pesos.

{11:04 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: plus more 30 for the taxi.

{11:05 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I'm not a working girl to sleep with you for money.

{11:05 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I only asked you a favor if you can't thank you very much.

{11:05 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: 👍127997;.

{11:06 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I'm not going to call you a working girl, but that's your only chance to get money from me by tomorrow and I'll go on a plane tomorrow, so you better come quickly.

{11:08 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: But I'm not used to sleeping with someone. For money.

{11:08 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: You offended me by telling me that.

{11:08 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I won't fuck you, I'll just look at your open hole and put sperm on your face, you won't have to touch me if you don't want to and I'll let you try the pink cocaine, this is a very fair offer between two friendly people.

{11:08 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Because I'm not a working girl.

{11:09 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Thank you, sweetheart. I will continue working to see if I make some money to pay my debts.

{11:09 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Have a happy night.

{11:09 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Goodbye.

{11:10 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Ciao.

{11:11 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Thank you very much bb.

{11:11 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I'll get the money I need working with my effort.

{11:11 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Thank you.

{11:12 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I forgot, I didn't want to ask you for favor.

{11:12 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Sorry.

{11:12 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I will work all this weekend and call the company that gives me. Time to pay my debts.

{11:13 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: OK, no problem, this would be an easy way to make money between friends and you would only have to stay two hours and I know you would enjoy it.

{11:14 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: thank you.

{11:16 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Heart if you want to have dry look for a working girl. I won't go, I didn't think you would tell me those things, I thought you wanted something different with me, I'm not a bad girl, someday I'll get a good man and that he loves me without having to sleep with someone for money.

{11:19 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Come here and sleep with me for free and I will give you the money because I am helping you out and not for sex hahahaha.

{11:19 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Excuse me for borrowing money and you do not know me, you are right to tell me that I am a strange person for you to forget it and wish you a happy night I am not an easy woman.

{11:20 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: tranquil mi amor, I was trying to help both of us at the same time.

{11:21 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Love thank you I still like you but you are nothing in exchange for money.

{11:21 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: 😘.

{11:22 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: In which hotel are you staying?

{11:22 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Hahahahaha.

{11:22 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Why?

{11:23 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: If I decide to go.

{11:23 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: but don't let me do anything wrong.

{11:24 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I won't tell you unless you will be here for sure and promise to show me your pink pussy spread wide open and when I come on your face you open your mouth.

{11:24 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Yes I'll go.

{11:25 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Sure I'll go.

{11:26 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Well tell me address please.

{11:26 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: To order the taxi.

{11:26 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Yes, I'll give you the address:

{11:26 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Ok.

{11:27 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I am at Hotel XXXXXXXXXXX.

{11:27 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: OK, I already ordered the car.

{11:29 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I already ordered the car.

{11:33 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I'm in room 204, come straight up the stairs, do not stop at the desk.

{11:34 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I already ordered the car. But I've never done this, you won't hurt me.

{11:34 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Don't stop at the reception, go up the stairs to the second floor, turn right, I'm the last room on the left.

{11:34 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Ok.

{11:34 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: You are safe with me my love and you made the right decision.

{11:35 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Okay ok.

{11:39 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: The man at the reception will let you pass without problems, you can go directly to room 204.

{11:41 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Tell me when you're close. And don't be shy when you get here.

{11:42 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Ok.

{11:46 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I have ecstasy and pink cocaine.

{11:47 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Ok.

{12:07 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: The car is coming.

{12:07 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: I live far away.

{12:07 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: In Envigado amor.

{12:07 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Love.

{12:10 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Tell me when you're in the taxi.

{12:11 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Ok heart.

{12:12 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: I just took a shower. I have your money counted. The Avengers is on Amazon Prime. The only thing missing is you.

{12:12 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Mmmmm.

{12:29 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Amor.

{12:29 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Love.

{12:30 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: I'm already in the car.

{12:32 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Yes.

{12:45 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Tell me when you're close.

{12:55 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: I'm here.

{12:58 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Ok.

{1:01 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Enter through the main door, go up the steps to the second floor and go to room 204.

THREE HOURS LATER.

{4:08 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Hello.

{4:08 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Love.

{4:27 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Thank you for coming. I like you.

{4:29 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: I arrived home.

{4:29 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Thanks for letting me know.

{4:30 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: 😘128536;.

{4:30 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: my love.

{4:31 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Did you like being fucked in the ass?

{4:31 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Yes.

{4:34 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: I was very hungry.

{4:34 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: 😜.

{4:35 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: hahahaha.

{4:38 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Already in bed.

JohnnyO
01-16-21, 02:33
I can't believe this happened. Been talking to a non working girl for a few days. So today I start smashing her really hard while she's on top. She's moaning like crazy and making interesting facial expressions, she's really getting into it intensely, I go harder and as she's climaxing and getting carried away she starts slapping my face really hard shouting "mas" "mas" "mas". Wtf, I thought it was supposed to be the other way round. These girls are nuts.

Knowledge
01-16-21, 02:49
Luna Lunera stayed open continuously since March, 24/7. They kept it on the down low and advertised apartments to the public. As far as I know they never got fined or caught. They were doing renovations at the same time so there were times when you had to tread lightly to avoid construction debris.


Small world, we were like two ships passing in the middle of the night.

Yes I too have been in all of them at one time or another in the past 3 or 4 years, just last night hit 4 of them and yes although at times you can find a fun girl in any of these clubs right now Avenida de grill has the best but again this could change as in a month or two another one will go on a new hiring blitz, that's half the fun is that you never know until you check it out.

Yes when I walked into Occidental that chic with the dread locks was stripping, not bad at all. My Colombian buddy swears on the gals in their, load of fun.

As for Victoria Taberna yes I have stopped in a few times in the past 2 years, once actually was drinking with a real nice great attitude paisa, the last time I went in was with my gringo buddy about 2 months back and believe it or not there were 2 or 3 that were doable and dare I say even cute but have never pulled the trigger in that place as I could just imagine what the rooms look like.

Now you photo is interesting as it is the old stage / seating area of BARRA Executive (next to Maracaibo club) and yes they turned this into a front for the hidden club that you have to get into via a small hidden door at the back end of the motorcycle parking. This club was indeed opened DURING the quarantine and my friends and I actually visited and partied in the club like 5 months ago during the lock down..

Mojo Bandit
01-16-21, 03:08
There is a story in the local Cartagena paper about three gringos who tried to turn in forged Coronavirus tests when flying out and they apparently have a system that verifies the tests and they called the police and these (am assuming they are all guys) people got arrested.

This was a originally posted in the Cartagena Reports Thread: Great Catch and Great Post by OnFireBoy

Three Americans were arrested with false negative COVID tests Colombian authorities detained three US citizens who intended to leave the country at the Rafael Andez de Cartagena de India's airport, for which they presented false negative coronavirus tests, official sources reported this Thursday.

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/carta...ovid-EE4042879

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/detenidos-en-cartagena-con-pruebas-negativas-falsas-de-covid-EE4042879

Luminus
01-16-21, 05:10
Thanks for the report and pics.


55 k includes 15 k room charge. You need to ask if the quoted price includes the room charge as well as which services are included. Initially she quoted 40 k. You pay at the register and she will receive a sticky note, etc. She has a really good attitude and an amazing pear shaped bottom.

Cuanto me cobra?

Incluye el precio del cuarto?

Que servicios incluye?

Luminus
01-16-21, 05:14
Got to love them, they say never stick your dick in crazy but it's got to be okay if she's leaving in an hour!


I can't believe this happened. Been talking to a non working girl for a few days. So today I start smashing her really hard while she's on top. She's moaning like crazy and making interesting facial expressions, she's really getting into it intensely, I go harder and as she's climaxing and getting carried away she starts slapping my face really hard shouting "mas" "mas" "mas". Wtf, I thought it was supposed to be the other way round. These girls are nuts.

Osteoknot
01-16-21, 06:20
I can't believe this happened. Been talking to a non working girl for a few days. So today I start smashing her really hard while she's on top. She's moaning like crazy and making interesting facial expressions, she's really getting into it intensely, I go harder and as she's climaxing and getting carried away she starts slapping my face really hard shouting "mas" "mas" "mas". Wtf, I thought it was supposed to be the other way round. These girls are nuts.Jajajajajaja, Siiiiiiiiiiiiii.

Is it wrong to have been choked out but I can't remember by who?

(yes, I know it's by whom. I like who).

Balboa
01-16-21, 06:38
There is a story in the local Cartagena paper about three gringos who tried to turn in forged Coronavirus tests when flying out and they apparently have a system that verifies the tests and they called the police and these (am assuming they are all guys) people got arrested.
The article says, 2 girls and 1 guy.

Mojo Bandit
01-16-21, 07:36
The article says, 2 girls and 1 guy.I see that now after rereading it, I stand corrected it was 2 girls and 1 guy who got arrested. I would not have thought they would arrest people, I thought they would just deny them to get on a flight but I guess it is a form of fraud or forgery.

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/detenidos-en-cartagena-con-pruebas-negativas-falsas-de-covid-EE4042879

MarquisdeSade1
01-16-21, 16:04
Paying off police is my forte.How much is a suitable bonus for them, for violating curfew hours 50000 cop.

Surfer500
01-16-21, 16:24
I see that now after rereading it, I stand corrected it was 2 girls and 1 guy who got arrested. I would not have thought they would arrest people, I thought they would just deny them to get on a flight but I guess it is a form of fraud or forgery.

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/detenidos-en-cartagena-con-pruebas-negativas-falsas-de-covid-EE4042879They came into the Country with no PCR tests, were told to quarantine, and to get a test in order to leave quarantine and exit the Country, which they did not do. I don't know what category this falls under, but it's more than fraud / forgery as they could of been or could be infected potentially exposing others. The problem could of been avoided if Migracion policy were to refuse entry into the Country without a test, versus an alternative quarantine policy that is difficult to enforce. It amazes me why people try to get around following the rules, especially with something like this.

They deserve to be severely punished for this, but will probably just get to pay there way out of it somehow, and will probably be banned for future travel into the Country.

Surfer500
01-16-21, 16:28
I can't believe this happened. Been talking to a non working girl for a few days. So today I start smashing her really hard while she's on top. She's moaning like crazy and making interesting facial expressions, she's really getting into it intensely, I go harder and as she's climaxing and getting carried away she starts slapping my face really hard shouting "mas" "mas" "mas". Wtf, I thought it was supposed to be the other way round. These girls are nuts.The girls aren't nuts, it's just normal here, you were her whipping boy!

Kind of like riding a horse, but the horse was whipping you to the finish line.

Osteoknot
01-16-21, 17:41
Got to love them, they say never stick your dick in crazy but it's got to be okay if she's leaving in an hour!As my dear old mongering dad RIP taught me when I was 13 yo, "The crazier the girl, the better she fucks. " Fat Ass, Sweet Pussy Hole, is as crazy as they come which is why I tried to switch rooms on her (fail, see recent post) but she hasn't come back at me, yet. Fingers crossed.

Just Incognito
01-16-21, 18:22
Thanks for the thoughts. If I come in it has to be Saturday to Saturday. Ow, I may not get the vaccine until the summer. It all keeps changing.

I have some contacts that I can have come stay a night or 2 with me. I don't know if they can get from their place to mine during the lockdown. So that could be tricky if there is a weekend shutdown. Like everyone, so over this. I just want to get back to MDE so bad. The longer I am gone the more ready I am to just live there. But, its been months of trying to figure life out-and I still am not sure how I could support myself there.


If you decide to come down to Colombia you should confirm whether or not there are any three day weekends, meaning are there any Holidays on a Monday as they have had a propensity to have stay at home orders during those weekends. Also given how fluid and quickly things could change with weekend lockdowns, what might happen is you buy a ticket and then they have a weekend lockdown. Therefore I would suggest arriving on say a Sunday night. This last week a few members showed up like on Thursday and then were locked down from Friday night until Tuesday morning after the Holiday on Monday, so unless they had a companion, or dared to venture out like one member you might be stuck. Also line up as many of your previous contacts as you can which you can always cancel. When I came down in November I utilized a similar strategy to a certain degree. As far as COVID, well that's a crap shoot for sure, and if you think you will be vaccinated by April, you will have a lot more piece of mind while mongering. A tough decision for you but if you still get the paid vacation in April and can get vaccinated well then I guess you just wait it out with the action you can get with Rosy Palms!

Knowledge
01-16-21, 18:53
This is the kind of wisdom I most treasure. Please share more.


As my dear old mongering dad RIP taught me when I was 13 yo, "The crazier the girl, the better she fucks. " Fat Ass, Sweet Pussy Hole, is as crazy as they come which is why I tried to switch rooms on her (fail, see recent post) but she hasn't come back at me, yet. Fingers crossed.

Knowledge
01-16-21, 19:03
You would not have thought they would arrest people.

#deterrence.


I see that now after rereading it, I stand corrected it was 2 girls and 1 guy who got arrested. I would not have thought they would arrest people, I thought they would just deny them to get on a flight but I guess it is a form of fraud or forgery.

https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/detenidos-en-cartagena-con-pruebas-negativas-falsas-de-covid-EE4042879

Mr Enternational
01-16-21, 19:21
As my dear old mongering dad RIP taught me when I was 13 yo, "The crazier the girl, the better she fucks. " Fat Ass, Sweet Pussy Hole, is as crazy as they come which is why I tried to switch rooms on her (fail, see recent post) but she hasn't come back at me, yet. Fingers crossed.He was fucking right. I used to mess with a nurse that could lick an ass and slurp cum like a work of art. One night when I was sleep she slid a nice gold wedding ring on my finger. That was about 18 years ago. Til this day she swears we were a couple and she moved to my city for us to be together. I keep telling her we were never a couple. These days when she calls I just hang up on her. I miss her freaky ways but I can't take the crazy shit.

Elvis 2008
01-16-21, 19:52
As my dear old mongering dad RIP taught me when I was 13 yo, "The crazier the girl, the better she fucks. "I was reading a book that said male sex drive is 9 X that of women, but I have seen exceptions with some women. There are two things when you have manic bipolars in the mania phase: they spend money like crazy (so they have to working girl themselves out to pay their bills) and they are complete nymphos when manic.

One manic chick controlled her mania with pot. We would have sex and she was multi orgasmic and would get off like 3 or 4 times. I am not certain if she did it for health reasons of what, but we go at it, and she came at least 10 X, basically sex with her was one big orgasm. I told her that she should get back on her pot as it was therapeutic for her. If she did not, she was going to crash and burn.

In the USA, what I have seen is most of the hottest women are bipolar or have ADHD. Thing with bipolars is that they are either: sooooo happy or damned near suicidal. So when they are depressed, they are going to stand you up on dates which was fine with me because they are total downers when depressed.

Guys who do not get this disease can get caught up in this. You have a hot chick who is so fun, great in bed, so happy, so in love with you, and you wonder if she is the one and two days later, she is silting her wrists claiming everything in the whole world sucks including you.

The phrase you treat the babes like bubs probably has to do with bipolars because they hate rejection. I finally figured out the way to handle these women was for them to be sugar baby like but to let them call me when they were in the mood and try not to make plans with them or have a plan be and not get upset with them if they did not show up. There is no fucking way any guy should consider any kind of serious relationship with these women. They are pay as you go and never pay in advance.

Before I started playing mostly abroad, I had a stable of these hot, crazy women who sung my praises to everyone. They were all grateful that I understood them. I just cannot imagine getting a hot chick in the sex prison who is not crazy. The demand and price for the hot sane ones is way too high in the USA but the price is not out of reach in Colombia.

Knowledge
01-16-21, 21:52
Hidden camera photo of Centro rat at Zona Rosa Hotel. Beware guys, there are hidden cameras.


He was fucking right. I used to mess with a nurse that could lick an ass and slurp cum like a work of art. One night when I was sleep she slid a nice gold wedding ring on my finger. That was about 18 years ago. Til this day she swears we were a couple and she moved to my city for us to be together. I keep telling her we were never a couple. These days when she calls I just hang up on her. I miss her freaky ways but I can't take the crazy shit.

SankarShetty
01-16-21, 22:27
The weekend / week day curfews are implemented to get the infection rate down and subsequently relieve ICU capacity. It looks like some of these actions have been taken previously and helped get numbers low. Hope the same thing happens now.

I want to take a moment to thank all the BMs on ground churning out trip reports.

While there are probably a few of you guys currently, your info / trip reports are invaluable to those of us planning a trip.

ThisIsFun
01-17-21, 01:36
How are you guys meeting up with chicks during the lockdowns? I arrive tomorrow and just trying to figure out if there's anything going on. Thanks.

RiceRocket99
01-17-21, 01:56
I've gone there during curfew and non-curfew nights. But they're def not 24/7 like before. I know one of the manager type guys that work there and they were closed on some nights during the lockdown. If they would open during lockdown, you won't go through main door, there's a a side entrance they use, so make it seem the place is still closed. Also, main floor (strip club area) has been closed. You would go upstairs and they converted it into a bar type spot and rooms available to do the deed. Just that not much privacy cuz some rooms are right next to the bar tables so you can see who’s going in and out of the rooms haha.


Luna Lunera stayed open continuously since March, 24/7. They kept it on the down low and advertised apartments to the public. As far as I know they never got fined or caught. They were doing renovations at the same time so there were times when you had to tread lightly to avoid construction debris.

Osteoknot
01-17-21, 02:12
From where I am sitting overlooking Avenida 70, there is more activity compared to the lock down last weekend. Mucho, mucho less than normal but there are a few people milling around and there is some traffic. Flame (girl from last night stayed over) had Frisby's chicken delivered again (they are my fave fried chicken chain in Medellin). I haven't left my Room since 6 P yesterday. The lock down this weekend is less than half as long as the one we had last weekend ends Sunday at 5 P I believe, I did not confirm. Let's hope we have a trend.

Gratuitous fotos from last night. Yeah, I know I said I would be fucking La Gacela all weekend but her birthday and first day off is Sun morning. I gave her Sat off to "rest up" and intended to take a blue-ball break but again, the chicas here make it too easy to fill any available space, jajaja. Fotos include Puta Delivery Van; The fruit cart guys were definitely not out last weekend but they are this weekend, so that's some kind of barometer.

IamLookin
01-17-21, 03:20
I believe Gene Hickman is correct. This is from the CDC website.

When do I need to get a test to travel to the US? And what kind of test do I need?

Get tested no more than 3 days before your flight to the US departs. Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19. Also make sure that you receive your results before your flight departs and have documentation of your results to show the airline.


As I've written before it seems clear that the entry requirement the United States announced it will put in place January 26 is a negative PCR test result. The enforcement is at the point of departure. Airlines are to verify the requirement is met as a condition of boarding.

I started this thread of discussion so I now reserve the right to end it or at least ask that it be moved elsewhere. Since yesterday it has become circular and thus of little use.

MarquisdeSade1
01-17-21, 04:00
I was reading a book that said male sex drive is 9 X that of women, but I have seen exceptions with some women. There are two things when you have manic bipolars in the mania phase: they spend money like crazy (so they have to working girl themselves out to pay their bills) and they are complete nymphos when manic.

One manic chick controlled her mania with pot. We would have sex and she was multi orgasmic and would get off like 3 or 4 times. I am not certain if she did it for health reasons of what, but we go at it, and she came at least 10 X, basically sex with her was one big orgasm. I told her that she should get back on her pot as it was therapeutic for her. If she did not, she was going to crash and burn.

In the USA, what I have seen is most of the hottest women are bipolar or have ADHD. Thing with bipolars is that they are either: sooooo happy or damned near suicidal. So when they are depressed, they are going to stand you up on dates which was fine with me because they are total downers when depressed.

Guys who do not get this disease can get caught up in this. You have a hot chick who is so fun, great in bed, so happy, so in love with you, and you wonder if she is the one and two days later, she is silting her wrists claiming everything in the whole world sucks including you..In my experience in the USA the very hottest of the hot white putas are 1 of 2 varieties.

Bipolar type 1, or a serious gambling addiction.

They are great fucks when manic, but can also be dangerous and try to kill you without much warning jajajajaja.

Surfer500
01-17-21, 04:52
Hidden camera photo of Centro rat at Zona Rosa Hotel. Beware guys, there are hidden cameras.That rat looks like a baby cat, albeit it's a rat, maybe your pet rat.

What are you smoking by the way, your post makes no sense at all, albeit neither do lot's of mine.

Surfer500
01-17-21, 04:57
I believe Gene Hickman is correct. This is from the CDC website.

When do I need to get a test to travel to the US? And what kind of test do I need?

Get tested no more than 3 days before your flight to the US departs. Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19. Also make sure that you receive your results before your flight departs and have documentation of your results to show the airline.So is there a registration requirement like for entry into Colombia, or do you just show up at the airline and if you have it they allow you to board, and what happens on arrival in the USA, do you have to show the test to immigration as well?

The Tall Man
01-17-21, 16:18
The girls aren't nuts, it's just normal here, you were her whipping boy!

Kind of like riding a horse, but the horse was whipping you to the finish line.True that! Absolutely normal here and if your chica is not like this find another as there is something wrong with her hehehe.

You can't make this shit up, as few years ago I had a favorite of mine over to my apartment for a long weekend, she is a pasia and a sex-maniac, we still stay in contact with each other, she rode me so long and hard and fast that it cracked the bed frame, not to mention that the bed slide from one side of the room over to the door as the floors are slippery tile, I had to repair the bed and then added additional supports to prevent future breakage, the repairs worked and god only knows that on future visits she tried hard to break the bed but unsuccessful.

So yes this is normal here, get use to it hehehe.

The Tall Man.

SankarShetty
01-17-21, 16:19
With increased vaccine availability and early access to Vaccine for some of us. Would it be possible for entry requirements to change from PCR only to PCR or Vaccine. All of us who are vaccinated are getting a CDC letter / card indicating vaccine confirmation. What are the chances that immigration authorities in Colombia revise this requirement.

I am aware the Jan 26 US entry requirements addressed this. Vaccine confirmation does not replace negative COVID test.

SpiderRider
01-17-21, 17:47
With increased vaccine availability and early access to Vaccine for some of us. Would it be possible for entry requirements to change from PCR only to PCR or Vaccine. All of us who are vaccinated are getting a CDC letter / card indicating vaccine confirmation. What are the chances that immigration authorities in Colombia revise this requirement.

I am aware the Jan 26 US entry requirements addressed this. Vaccine confirmation does not replace negative COVID test.Is there not another forum or resource where folks can ask questions and discuss public health policies and travel restrictions? One of the Facebook groups perhaps? Its getting quite tiresome, repetitive, and speculative in here. Months and months of it.

Lefeu
01-17-21, 17:58
Is there not another forum or resource where folks can ask questions and discuss public health policies and travel restrictions? One of the Facebook groups perhaps? Its getting quite tiresome, repetitive, and speculative in here. Months and months of it.I for one like to see news of this sort here. I don't read too many forums and I travel regularly to Medellin. I would like to be informed of the requirements for entry into Colombia, as they change on a regular basis.

But I have no interest in debating this issue, just the news.

Elvis 2008
01-17-21, 18:19
I am aware the Jan 26 US entry requirements addressed this. Vaccine confirmation does not replace negative COVID test.You are right SS. The CDC left it vague about how someone who has recovered from Covid could enter the USA. I think they are going to have to address the vaccine issue and what they meant by recovered shortly. Are they really going to let in people with a positive test and a doctor's letter as some have suggested here? Maybe that is what they meant, but that does not make sense to me.

Osteoknot
01-17-21, 19:42
I implied before that if you booked at double occupancy rate at Ayenda hotels they would not charge you for guests. They would not charge you for the FIRST guest at a double occupancy rate, after that, they charge 20 mil per guest (about five bucks), with some leeway depending on the timing. For example, if a chica comes up to my room in the middle of the day for a drink and leaves in an hour, I wouldn't expect to be charged. But why in the Hell would you want to do that, jajjaja? Find them and Fuck them. Also, this past weekend I got a friendly warning for, Don't bring more than three girls to the room at once (three were allowed) and they seemed to get nervous at a threshold of six girls in a 24 hour period, jajaja. Photos to follow. As I said before, they check and hold cedulas which is what you want. Every time a girl left this they called me from reception before returning her cedula to see if everything was okay in my Room, that I was still alive, etc. Every Ayenda hotel I have stayed allows guests. They are very guest friendly within the boundaries of their rules, which is what you want. You don't want some wide open, wild setting, or someplace that will not allow guests at all. Ayenda seems to have found the sweet spot, and I think us mongers are one of their target markets, jajaa.

RacShack
01-17-21, 20:15
I for one like to see news of this sort here. I don't read too many forums and I travel regularly to Medellin. I would like to be informed of the requirements for entry into Colombia, as they change on a regular basis.

But I have no interest in debating this issue, just the news.It's good to know updated information on this matter, I learned a lot before my last trip.

Surfer500
01-17-21, 20:43
With increased vaccine availability and early access to Vaccine for some of us. Would it be possible for entry requirements to change from PCR only to PCR or Vaccine. All of us who are vaccinated are getting a CDC letter / card indicating vaccine confirmation. What are the chances that immigration authorities in Colombia revise this requirement.

I am aware the Jan 26 US entry requirements addressed this. Vaccine confirmation does not replace negative COVID test.Eventually some day what you are asking about will come to fruition, but it's probably always off, so you just need to be patient as everything is a moving target and has been evolving and morphing. Enough said about this!

Surfer500
01-17-21, 20:53
From where I am sitting overlooking Avenida 70, there is more activity compared to the lock down last weekend. Mucho, mucho less than normal but there are a few people milling around and there is some traffic. Flame (girl from last night stayed over) had Frisby's chicken delivered again (they are my fave fried chicken chain in Medellin). I haven't left my Room since 6 P yesterday. The lock down this weekend is less than half as long as the one we had last weekend ends Sunday at 5 P I believe, I did not confirm. Let's hope we have a trend.

Gratuitous fotos from last night. Yeah, I know I said I would be fucking La Gacela all weekend but her birthday and first day off is Sun morning. I gave her Sat off to "rest up" and intended to take a blue-ball break but again, the chicas here make it too easy to fill any available space, jajaja. Fotos include Puta Delivery Van; The fruit cart guys were definitely not out last weekend but they are this weekend, so that's some kind of barometer.So did you line up the two girls in one of your photo's on the end of a bed, pull their thongs off, and bareback them both in doggie?

I would of if given the opportunity in a heartbeat!

Curious and imaginary minds, not mine of course, but others, are wondering!

ThisIsFun
01-17-21, 22:24
I for one like to see news of this sort here. I don't read too many forums and I travel regularly to Medellin. I would like to be informed of the requirements for entry into Colombia, as they change on a regular basis.

But I have no interest in debating this issue, just the news.I arrived today from Newark Fort Lauderdale MDE. A PCR test within 96 hours was required at Newark Airport to get onto the plane. They also checked in Fort Lauderdale and in customs in MDE.

TimmyJoon
01-17-21, 22:39
I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month (subject to COVID). I've done Tijuana and Guadalajara, and the real reason I want to visit MDE is the non-mechanical experience. I want better experiences that 1-hour arribas with half-decent looking chicks.

How would you all recommend finding the following type of chica's if you had 6 days in MDE?

1.) Under 30.

2.) Between 6.5-8 in looks.

3.) Willing to spend 2-8 hours.

4.) Sexually open - 3-course menu etc.

I can't seem to figure our how FB works with these Chicas. All the accounts I find are inactive for months or years. Thank you'll in advance.

Knowledge
01-17-21, 23:30
You are correct on all counts and I can tell you did in fact visit during the early lockdown. The construction dust and the noise from the temporary bar bothered more than anything else. After a couple of times I stuck to the apartments, first in LOS Colores and later right behind the la 33 headquarters. I am a sentimental fool when it comes to certain places. Whenever I am near Luna Lunera I get warm memories of Abydos, now more than 10 years gone.


I've gone there during curfew and non-curfew nights. But they're def not 24/7 like before. I know one of the manager type guys that work there and they were closed on some nights during the lockdown. If they would open during lockdown, you won't go through main door, there's a a side entrance they use, so make it seem the place is still closed. Also, main floor (strip club area) has been closed. You would go upstairs and they converted it into a bar type spot and rooms available to do the deed. Just that not much privacy cuz some rooms are right next to the bar tables so you can see whos going in and out of the rooms haha.

Knowledge
01-18-21, 01:06
I don't believe the CDC makes or enforces border security. It is an advisory body with respect to coronavirus control. The USA State Department (which maintains a web site where the latest accurate information can be found by the way) makes the policy and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (aka "ICE") enforces it. ICE also maintains an up to date website. You won't find punter information on either of those sites. I mention this because there appears to be topic confusion. Perhaps the moderator can help with structuring the content here differently.


You are right SS. The CDC left it vague about how someone who has recovered from Covid could enter the USA. I think they are going to have to address the vaccine issue and what they meant by recovered shortly. Are they really going to let in people with a positive test and a doctor's letter as some have suggested here? Maybe that is what they meant, but that does not make sense to me.

SpiderRider
01-18-21, 01:18
I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month (subject to COVID). I've done Tijuana and Guadalajara, and the real reason I want to visit MDE is the non-mechanical experience. I want better experiences that 1-hour arribas with half-decent looking chicks.

How would you all recommend finding the following type of chica's if you had 6 days in MDE?

1.) Under 30.

2.) Between 6.5-8 in looks.

3.) Willing to spend 2-8 hours.

4.) Sexually open - 3-course menu etc.

I can't seem to figure our how FB works with these Chicas. All the accounts I find are inactive for months or years. Thank you'll in advance.Sending PM.... never mind... get a paid membership so we can help you with out jamming up the forum

Kafka
01-18-21, 01:41
Sending PM.... never mind... get a paid membership so we can help you with out jamming up the forumIf you can speak a little Spanish all you got to do is hang out at Lleras Park. Or if you're really adventurous go over to El Centro. But it's not for the faint of heart.

JjBee62
01-18-21, 02:05
I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month (subject to COVID). I've done Tijuana and Guadalajara, and the real reason I want to visit MDE is the non-mechanical experience. I want better experiences that 1-hour arribas with half-decent looking chicks.

How would you all recommend finding the following type of chica's if you had 6 days in MDE?

1.) Under 30.

2.) Between 6.5-8 in looks.

3.) Willing to spend 2-8 hours.

4.) Sexually open - 3-course menu etc.

I can't seem to figure our how FB works with these Chicas. All the accounts I find are inactive for months or years. Thank you'll in advance.1. Buy the tickets and fly to MDE.

2. Get transportation from the airport into your lodging in Medellin.

Those are the only parts of your plan that should present any difficulty.

In my experience it's harder to find a girl over 30 than under 30. It's harder to find a girl under a 6.5 than better than a 6.5 or better.

Your other 2 requirements mostly depend on you. I rarely have difficulty keeping a girl for at least 2 hours. With some guys, the girls are ready to go as quick as they can. There are lots of things that go into this.

Personal hygiene is important. I've run into a few mongers who needed an introduction to soap, deodorant and toothpaste. Although occasionally you'll run into a girl who needs some cleaning, in my experience it's rare.

Show some consideration to the girl. If you're just treating her like an inflatable fuck doll, she's going to get it over with and get out. The more she enjoys the session, the longer she's likely to stay.

Provide a nice atmosphere. Pick up your garbage and dirty clothes before she arrives. Put on some music. Having something to drink or snack on is a nice touch. Smirnoff Ice is pretty popular with the girls and most of them love sweets. Have condoms, lube (particularly if you're wanting anal) and clean towels handy. I always buy some nicely scented body wash and the girls love it. Most of them are using the cheapest bar soap at home.

Talk to them. If you can make them laugh or get them interested, they're happier to stay. This is where knowing some Spanish is helpful. The more the better. You can get by with the basics using Google Translate, but it is cumbersome trying to carry on a conversation.

There are 2 strategies for getting anal, if that's what you're referencing. The first is to screen and only set up girls who are back door providers. The other is to try to arrange it during the extended stay. With either, your chances of success are going to depend on your size and how well you get along with the girl.

For figuring out Facebook, go to the General Topics thread. Search for Facebook. There's a post that should show up by me that details how to get started with Facebook.

Most importantly, read the forum. Go back at least 50 pages and read everything. Some of it will be very helpful.

Osteoknot
01-18-21, 02:06
So did you line up the two girls in one of your photo's on the end of a bed, pull their thongs off, and bareback them both in doggie?

I would of if given the opportunity in a heartbeat!

Curious and imaginary minds, not mine of course, but others, are wondering!Yes, agree, that is SOP, Standard Operating Procedure in that situation. For reasons that are too stupid to explain and that I cannot defend, I barebacked Flame with the fatter ass as shown in the foto and covered my bubba with a rubba for the other. Those two were just the beginning. Flame fucks me for free, but of course we can't expect that of her friends and she invites them over as sort of a win-win. Lots of girl on girl, including vibrators. I was trying to rest up this weekend for today and tonight, the first night when La Gacela did not have to work and her birthday. Instead Friday night started a 36 hour drugged sex marathon with four different chicas, three at the same time. I will post pics.

Gratuitous foto from tonight, we are both in recovery mode. I am not much of a breast man, more of a legs and ass guy, BUT I can appreciate La Gacela's breasts, dayum they are nice, just like her ass, pussy, butt hole, mouth. . . She's been up all night and day so of course, had to ask, "Mi amor, is it okay if I fuck you while you are sleeping?" Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.

Nounce
01-18-21, 11:12
I can't seem to figure our how FB works with these Chicas. All the accounts I find are inactive for months or years. Thank you'll in advance.This post will give you some info.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2410175&viewfull=1#post2410175

Pay for the membership so others who want to help can share with you with PM.

Just Incognito
01-18-21, 13:08
This post will give you some info.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2410175&viewfull=1#post2410175

Pay for the membership so others who want to help can share with you with PM.You do not need atao add the girls as your friends!

You can just click on their profile then send them a direct message. There is no benefit that comes with adding them as friends-other than people not involved in your Colombia activities seeing you have new young hot female friends.

Facebook allows people who are not friends to message each other. These girls all set their pictures to public and not friends only anyway.

I don't understand why people keep saying to add these girls to your friends list. There is no reason to do this. Just message them in Facebook messenger.

Rodeo9112
01-18-21, 15:48
What's up ISG family? I haven't been on here much since I moved to Medellin. But I knew this would be the place to ask the question. I've heard anecdotes about guys hooking up with super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels. I've never stayed at one myself but considering staying in one for a week or so or a weekend to see what damage I can do. Any recommended spots in Meddy or surrounding towns?

SpiderRider
01-18-21, 21:15
What's up ISG family? I haven't been on here much since I moved to Medellin. But I knew this would be the place to ask the question. I've heard anecdotes about guys hooking up with super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels. I've never stayed at one myself but considering staying in one for a week or so or a weekend to see what damage I can do. Any recommended spots in Meddy or surrounding towns?You had better be young and handsome. They're not colombianas. and please don't say "Meddy"

SpiderRider
01-18-21, 21:21
I've run into a few mongers who needed an introduction to soap, deodorant and toothpaste.
And dressed like an unemployed grifter that got shit-faced drunk in Key West last night, or. Dressed by their mother before they left home.

Osteoknot
01-18-21, 21:30
So much has happened that I can't keep up. What was supposed to be a blue-ball break this past weekend instead turned into a five girl orgy. Unplanned. That is what Medellin does to me. When I think I need to take a break and put a toe back into reality, Medellin says, "No, no, no, think again, I am not done with you, instead we are going to take it to the next level."

I am writing on the fly, without revisions, I got to keep moving.

La Gacela arrived on Sun morning her birthday, and we had a great time, mostly making sure she was relaxed and didn't have any wants or needs. She left at 11 AM on Monday. A little pissed because she saw fotos of the orgy and fotos of herself I sent in Emails. My bad, but I prefer all the cards on the table and she was happy when she left. Imagine that scenario back in the good ol' USA and how different the outcome would be, if your wifey or GF found fotos like that on your phone, jajajaja.

She is the perfect anchor girlfriend for mongering because her work schedule keeps my nights free. She also fucks me for free but I gave her a nice birthday present. My ROI on her is so high on her it's incalculable. The leftover pink stuff from the party meant I could give her four hours of nonstop pussy licking. At the end of that I was stirring the honey pot.

As far as what happened before La Gacela's arrival, between Friday and Sun morning, I will let the pictures tell the story. Flame fucks me for free because of pussy credits, so technically it's not free, it's prepaid. I don't recommend doing that, esp if you are new to the game. She asked if she could invite over a few friends, "not for sex" but to listen to music and hang out, if I bought a bottle of rum. Sure. I saw the potential there, anyone would. Rum became 3 points of 2 See. The girls were all great. One was spectacular and she's going to bump chicas down in my line up as the new Number Four, if she accepts.

The most uptight girl of the weekend was channeling Veronica from Archie and His Gang in looks and bitchy attitude. After some 2 See she was down on all fours giving me a porn star blowjob with drool running off her chin. Plus a lot more.

Of course I paid. The New Number Four got a total of 200. Veronica got 100. Whip Me got 150. Plus food, beer, 2 See. Oh yeah I gave La Gacela a 20 for cab fare. Would do it all again in heart beat. La Gacela is on her way back over. Two of other girls have texted me wanting to return. I got something real special cooked up with a new chica for, shite, tomorrow afternoon, that came fast. And a twist that knocked me down, I will write about soon. You won't believe it except it's the stone cold truth. I believe we got ourselves a good start on a screenplay. Fotos of this past weekend continued in the next post.

Surfer500
01-18-21, 21:58
What's up ISG family? I haven't been on here much since I moved to Medellin. But I knew this would be the place to ask the question. I've heard anecdotes about guys hooking up with super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels. I've never stayed at one myself but considering staying in one for a week or so or a weekend to see what damage I can do. Any recommended spots in Meddy or surrounding towns?It seems odd that you would think that members on the Medellin board would know where to look for "super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels" given that all of us on this board are in the pay pool, not looking for tourists to bang. However probably the highest density of hostels is going to be in and around Poblado with several in the barrios of Provenza and in and around Parque Lleras along with the Manila and Patio Bonito Barrios and a few in Astorga. If you live in Medellin, I suggest you walk around within these areas besides looking on the Internet where to stay. But honestly, seems like a pain in the ass and a waste of time trying to lay a foreigner, and quite frankly, I have rarely seen any hot foreign tourist girls in the areas I've mentioned. Anyways, good luck, and if you hit pay dirt, let us know.

JjBee62
01-18-21, 22:08
You do not need atao add the girls as your friends!

You can just click on their profile then send them a direct message. There is no benefit that comes with adding them as friends-other than people not involved in your Colombia activities seeing you have new young hot female friends.

Facebook allows people who are not friends to message each other. These girls all set their pictures to public and not friends only anyway.

I don't understand why people keep saying to add these girls to your friends list. There is no reason to do this. Just message them in Facebook messenger.The reason why people keep saying to add girls is because there are reasons to do so.

First the disclaimer. If you're using Facebook normally, keeping up with friends and family, former co-workers and all that happy social media stuff, anything you do involving Facebook is going to connect to all those people. There are some security measures, such as requiring your approval for anything someone tags you in, or posts on your timeline. That keeps the chica from posting a picture of you with her and another girl in the jacuzzi on your timeline. However, no matter how high your security or precautions, your friends will still be getting friend requests or recommendations for girls in Medellin, even if you are only messaging them.

Now, if your family situation, or employment could be threatened by anyone associating your trips to Colombia with prostitution, stay off of Facebook and you might want to consider reducing your trips to Colombia. My job is secure, more than secure. My family long ago accepted that I don't care what they think about what I do. So I use Facebook.

Back to the reasons.

1. Adding friends saves having to remember which Luisa was the dead fish and which was the pornstar. You remove the ones who aren't worth keeping.

2. Many of the profiles have pictures restricted to just friends. There will be a few pictures anyone can see, but the majority are only open to friends. Every time I get a friend request (about 10 per week) I accept and then check the profile again.

3. Girls find you. Why have to start your search over every time, when you can let Facebook let the girls know you're available? I have added 3 times as many girls who found me, than ones I went searching for.

4. Free previews. Are you looking for a party girl, who'll bring along tussi and weed? You want a girl who loves to dance? You want a more girl next door type? You want a girl who will dive face first into a threesome? You want a girl who you can take to a decent restaurant? You want a girl who will bring her own handcuffs? Many of the girls document everything on Facebook. To me this adds a level of familiarity. I know more about how I expect her to behave.

5. Deep diving. Many of the girls have friends who are also working. Some also have friends who are just part time, or who live in different cities. If you take the time to dig into friends of friends, there are many gems to be found.

There are more reasons, but it all depends on your situation. If you're a regular, like to repeat with the good ones and want to build a network of pussy, add them. If you're an infrequent visitor, if you want to keep a certain detachment, just message them.

Elvis 2008
01-18-21, 22:14
I don't believe the CDC makes or enforces border security. It is an advisory body with respect to coronavirus control. The USA State Department (which maintains a web site where the latest accurate information can be found by the way) makes the policy and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (aka "ICE") enforces it. Yes, Knowledge you are correct about how things are supposed to work, but that is not what is going on. The CDC set up guidelines and the airlines are enforcing them. I do not like how this law was set up on the American side but it is what it is. So it does not matter what ICE thinks or does if the airline does not fly you to or from Colombia.

LoveItHere69
01-18-21, 22:21
What's up ISG family? I haven't been on here much since I moved to Medellin. But I knew this would be the place to ask the question. I've heard anecdotes about guys hooking up with super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels. I've never stayed at one myself but considering staying in one for a week or so or a weekend to see what damage I can do. Any recommended spots in Meddy or surrounding towns?Hostels are for a lower income strata traveler in a dormitory setting. I doubt that group has the extra money for virus testing to travel, the funds to stay if air flights are cancelled, money to take a last minute flight out if need be. So I do not see them taking the jump to travel at this time. Plus, I think the girls would not be too open for playing around like before in this virus situation. If you moved to Medellin just go talk to a few of the larger hostels to see how full they are and chat with some workers there. Best to go to a Backpackers-are-Us type website.

Sangnyc21
01-18-21, 22:35
Landed on Thursday and walked right into a curfew. Went to La Isla just to have a drink and chill. Only a couple tables filled. Talent was ehhh. Nothing special.

So far I have seen five girls from Facebook they are pretty popular had a threesome.

I am noticing that the Facebook girls are now trying to get $100.

I'm standing firm at 250 mil. With taxi included.

Unless you are grandfathered in I think the days of 150 are gone.

Tomorrow things should be back to somewhat normal.

But since I have two months here I will just relax and wait till the weekend and until then I will just do Facebook girls.

Osteoknot
01-18-21, 22:45
Photos Continued From Previous Post About This Past Weekend. La Gacella said she would return before her night shift started but she did not, no worries there, Colombiana Time. Flame was chomping at the bit the hardest so I told her to come on over. I told her I would be taking close up fotos of her pussy which somehow escaped me this past weekend. Anywho, call it my style, I usually like to set up some expectation for what will be happening. But stay flexible, there is no reason to stick to a script if something more interesting starts to develop.

ColombiaLover
01-18-21, 22:50
Better to say "Medalo" in public if you can say "Medellin. " Or use MDE as the abbreviation here. I agree that I've not heard people use "Meddy. ".


You had better be young and handsome. They're not colombianas. and please don't say "Meddy"

ColombiaLover
01-18-21, 22:53
I appreciate the reports more than ever. I was supposed to be in MDE in early December and then later December. My first trip was cut short by a health problem. I decided to fly back to the USA For that. Cleared that up in 5 days and next day after release I got hit by a car. Broken neck. While taking scans, saw some on pancreas and had to get a biopsy. Luckly, it looks like the pancreas issue is nothing. Now to find a surgeon who can fix my neck ASAP so I can rehab and then travel again. When you are in the hospital, they are ready to do surgery immediately. But when you are not, they want you to wait week for a "new patient" appointment geez.

So keep the news and fotos coming. I will contribute again when I can.

Paulie97
01-18-21, 23:23
I appreciate the reports more than ever. I was supposed to be in MDE in early December and then later December. My first trip was cut short by a health problem. I decided to fly back to the USA For that. Cleared that up in 5 days and next day after release I got hit by a car. Broken neck. While taking scans, saw some on pancreas and had to get a biopsy. Luckly, it looks like the pancreas issue is nothing. Now to find a surgeon who can fix my neck ASAP so I can rehab and then travel again. When you are in the hospital, they are ready to do surgery immediately. But when you are not, they want you to wait week for a "new patient" appointment geez.

So keep the news and fotos coming. I will contribute again when I can.Sorry to hear about those issues. Get well soon.

Osteoknot
01-19-21, 00:01
This is my Number Four girl, Soft Swirl. She gives the best blow jobs, ever. I called it the Venezuelan Soft Swirl technique in previous posts. I sent her two Gringo friends before Covid, they both said best blow job ever, and on a 1-10 scale one guy gave her a 10 and the other guy an 11. I am thinking about referring her out after we meet tomorrow. I have pussy credit or in this case, blow job credit coming, for the help I gave her during the ongoing Covid crisis. She is eager to pay up. I haven't see her for more than a year because she returned to Venezuela before Covid. Everyone told me I was stupid for sending her money. I broke a lot of my own rules for Covid, and so far, no regrets. Disclaimer: I strongly recommend against ever sending a girl money. My one excuse is I knew them all beforehand and there were in my line up, which has its privileges.

Looks like a couple of the girls from my ranked line-up are avoiding me this trip, and naturally they will lose their spots. So I am not telling you it's a perfect system. I am telling you it works for me and I like my current overall ROI. This past weekend was worth every penny I sent from home the previous nine months. Everything is a win now. Soft Swirl is gorgeous, BTW. I told her to send a pic I could show the front desk and she sent this.

I don't regularly get freaky during my WhatsApp convos, but I must admit, when I dredged up the transcript from Fat Ass, Sweet Pussy Hole that I recently posted, it gave me the idea for this. This is the second time I am trying this Don't-Say-A-Word-And-Drop-To-Your-Knees, theme. The first time was in Bogota over a year ago and it went as planned. I can dig up that transcript, too. As always, I will be stone cold honest with my fellow mongers and report what happened. She doesn't exactly sound thrilled about it, she could easily ghost me. The time frame of 11 A to 5 P is very specific because she is dropping off her mother nearby for some medical testing, same metro exit, what a coincidence.

(3:48 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Now, you must agree to these terms or we will never see each other.

(3:50 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: When you come, register at reception and leave your cedula. I will have already paid your guest fee.

(3:51 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: This is the important part and you must follow it exactly or I will send you home immediately.

(3:51 PM, 1/18/2021) Soft Swirl: Ok.

(3:52 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Come to my room, if the door is open, come in. You will see a pillow on the floor. Kneel on the pillow.

(3:53 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: You can look at me but you can't say a word, you can't say Hello, you can't ask how I'm doing, you can't make a sound.

(3:55 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Start sucking my cock and don't stop until I tell you. That could be in 5 minutes, it could be in 2 hours, I haven't decided.

(3:56 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: When I tell you to stop sucking, you can speak, but not a word before. Is it crystal clear?

(4:05 PM, 1/18/2021) Soft Swirl: Yes.

(4:06 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Do you understand and agree?

(4:08 PM, 1/18/2021) Soft Swirl: If I understand you, then I will need water and food.

(4:32 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Don't worry about stupid shit. I'll feed your mouth after you show me how good it can suck.

(4:33 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: If you suck well, I will treat you well.

(4:34 PM, 1/18/2021) Soft Swirl: Ok.

It's all starting to come back to me now. I haven't seen her in over a year. She is not a small woman, in fact she looks about 15 pounds heavier that before, But she has one of the smallest pussies you will see. Why did so many girls get fat when they all wrote me that they were starving and needed money? Jjjajaajajajajaa. Seven out of ten times if you send a chica money, the first thing she is going to buy is drugs, and I don't mean Amoxicillin, jajaja.

The Tall Man
01-19-21, 00:17
I appreciate the reports more than ever. I was supposed to be in MDE in early December and then later December. My first trip was cut short by a health problem. I decided to fly back to the USA For that. Cleared that up in 5 days and next day after release I got hit by a car. Broken neck. While taking scans, saw some on pancreas and had to get a biopsy. Luckly, it looks like the pancreas issue is nothing. Now to find a surgeon who can fix my neck ASAP so I can rehab and then travel again. When you are in the hospital, they are ready to do surgery immediately. But when you are not, they want you to wait week for a "new patient" appointment geez.

So keep the news and fotos coming. I will contribute again when I can.Wow what a chain of unfortunate circumstances. Hang in there and best of luck.

There is no need to worry about the paisa pussy here in Medellin as we will occupy them until your return.

The Tall Man.

PolloNegro
01-19-21, 00:40
Landed on Thursday and walked right into a curfew. Went to La Isla just to have a drink and chill. Only a couple tables filled. Talent was ehhh. Nothing special.

So far I have seen five girls from Facebook they are pretty popular had a threesome.

I am noticing that the Facebook girls are now trying to get $100.

I'm standing firm at 250 mil. With taxi included.

Unless you are grandfathered in I think the days of 150 are gone.

Tomorrow things should be back to somewhat normal.

But since I have two months here I will just relax and wait till the weekend and until then I will just do Facebook girls.On the girls that you are choosing. Each guy has his own taste, I know for a fact, these girls need money, especially during the quarantine, but if you somehow feel they need $250,000 pesos and up, then you may just pay that, I have come to the conclusion, I will never pay that rate for an hour, I just don't have a need to, the $150,000 pesos rate is more than enough, but to each their own. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. Pollo negro is out! See you soon in Medellin!

Osteoknot
01-19-21, 01:22
You do not need atao add the girls as your friends!

You can just click on their profile then send them a direct message. There is no benefit that comes with adding them as friends-other than people not involved in your Colombia activities seeing you have new young hot female friends.

Facebook allows people who are not friends to message each other. These girls all set their pictures to public and not friends only anyway.

I don't understand why people keep saying to add these girls to your friends list. There is no reason to do this. Just message them in Facebook messenger.Good point. But then again, I don't understand why I do a lot of the things I do, repeatedly even, jajajajjaa.

JjBee62
01-19-21, 03:31
It seems odd that you would think that members on the Medellin board would know where to look for "super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels" given that all of us on this board are in the pay pool, not looking for tourists to bang. However probably the highest density of hostels is going to be in and around Poblado with several in the barrios of Provenza and in and around Parque Lleras along with the Manila and Patio Bonito Barrios and a few in Astorga. If you live in Medellin, I suggest you walk around within these areas besides looking on the Internet where to stay. But honestly, seems like a pain in the ass and a waste of time trying to lay a foreigner, and quite frankly, I have rarely seen any hot foreign tourist girls in the areas I've mentioned. Anyways, good luck, and if you hit pay dirt, let us know.You're right that the highest concentration of hostels is around Parque Lleras. However, there are also several scattered around Laureles, which I noticed when I was living over there.

At this time, I would think the hostel scene would be pretty dry. With international travel being down, restricted, and requiring PCR tests, the budget backpackers are probably waiting for better days.

Just my own observation on the typical hostel patrons, shaving doesn't always seem to be a high priority. I'm talking armpits and legs.

Sangnyc21
01-19-21, 03:45
On the girls that you are choosing. Each guy has his own taste, I know for a fact, these girls need money, especially during the quarantine, but if you somehow feel they need $250,000 pesos and up, then you may just pay that, I have come to the conclusion, I will never pay that rate for an hour, I just don't have a need to, the $150,000 pesos rate is more than enough, but to each their own. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. Pollo negro is out! See you soon in Medellin!Haven't had issues with time. But I hear what you're saying. Maybe the girls I'm aiming are booked or in demand. Idk.

Good thing is I never had time issues or rushed etc. I have to kick them out. LOL.

BootyBandit84
01-19-21, 04:18
Landed on Thursday and walked right into a curfew. Went to La Isla just to have a drink and chill. Only a couple tables filled. Talent was ehhh. Nothing special.

So far I have seen five girls from Facebook they are pretty popular had a threesome.

I am noticing that the Facebook girls are now trying to get $100.

I'm standing firm at 250 mil. With taxi included.

Unless you are grandfathered in I think the days of 150 are gone.

Tomorrow things should be back to somewhat normal.

But since I have two months here I will just relax and wait till the weekend and until then I will just do Facebook girls.I ran into this last week when I was in Medellin. It seemed like all the FB girls started with either 250 k or 300 k. I learned quickly to not let them start with crazy numbers. I always shot them 200 k and only a handful of times did I have to add taxi money. Out of 10 new girls only one would not budge much and I ended up having to fork over 250 k but it was for two hours. I couldn't get the 150 k + 20 k for taxi I was able to get regularly two moths ago, even from girls I saw last trip. The days I was able to go outside to LLeras I was able to get better deals so not a complete loss.

Sangnyc21
01-19-21, 05:50
I ran into this last week when I was in Medellin. It seemed like all the FB girls started with either 250 k or 300 k. I learned quickly to not let them start with crazy numbers. I always shot them 200 k and only a handful of times did I have to add taxi money. Out of 10 new girls only one would not budge much and I ended up having to fork over 250 k but it was for two hours. I couldn't get the 150 k + 20 k for taxi I was able to get regularly two moths ago, even from girls I saw last trip. The days I was able to go outside to LLeras I was able to get better deals so not a complete loss.I had 2 at 200 and 3 at 250. Haven't had a bad experience yet.

One girl was 250 with taxi.

There is never any time restrictions on my dates and so far.

But I'm one of those guys that don't want the extras. Once I'm done I'm done and want to be alone LOL.

Funny thing is I have free pussy available from a beautiful 20 yo if I wanted but I prefer to pay these girls. Cause I'm paying them to leave.

Not to get jealous and go through my shit LOL.

SpiderRider
01-19-21, 13:26
On the girls that you are choosing. Each guy has his own taste, I know for a fact, these girls need money, especially during the quarantine, but if you somehow feel they need $250,000 pesos and up, then you may just pay that, I have come to the conclusion, I will never pay that rate for an hour, I just don't have a need to, the $150,000 pesos rate is more than enough, but to each their own. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. Pollo negro is out! See you soon in Medellin!If you hire unionized labor, you're going to pay union wages, and be subject to conditions and demands dictated by the union, unless a worker willing to break ranks. You either have the time, patience, and skills to negotiate in your favor, or you don't. But to come on the board and say that the days of 150k are passed, you are patently wrong. 150 k is the 50-yardline. Has been for more than 15 years and will continue to be. Exchange rate is 3500:1. Even when it was 2400:1, even 1900:1 , 150 k was the standard. Things have not changed economically here in the past 15 years. In fact, the economy is acutely worse. Also market demand for labor is decreased as there are less visitors. All these things favor lower prices , not higher

The Tall Man
01-19-21, 14:42
So much has happened that I can't keep up. What was supposed to be a blue-ball break this past weekend instead turned into a five girl orgy. Unplanned. That is what Medellin does to me. When I think I need to take a break and put a toe back into reality, Medellin says, "No, no, no, think again, I am not done with you, instead we are going to take it to the next level."So true and especially so if you live here. I never in my wildest dreams would have thought that I would need to shut off my cell phone and hideaway in my apartment, feels like Howard Hughes, close the drapes and dim the lights so I can get some rest and a break from the chicas hehehehe.

Every time when I am out and about things just appear like out of nowhere, opportunities for new chicas and new experiences. Last night was out a a bar in centro and after feeling out some new prospects, a friend of a friend, I had to quietly sneak over to the parking garage, without any goodbyes, and drive home alone why? Not because I had to but rather because I wanted to just have a break from the chicas for a couple of days.

Just over the past 3 or 4 days, on Thursday night had a 21 yo repeat and blew my load 2 or 3 times with the last being at about 9 AM Friday morning, then on Saturday had a new girl a 20 yo non-pro paisa to my apartment for 3 hours and smashed that then on Sunday had 2 other new and fresh UTR 18 yo's in my apartment for 4 hours and what a wonderful 3-some it was, oh and I pay 100 mil plus taxi and if they don't like this or give me an attitude I will never invite them again.

So 4 chicas in actually 3 days and so yesterday I needed a break BUT there are a dozen who are daily contacting me wanting to play, no wonder my body needs a break.

So today I need to decide which want deserves my time and effort and 100 mil? Is it one of the 5 - 18 yo flacas or the 19 yo slender cutie who looks like Megan Fox, or is it the 22 yo black stripper bodied paisa who rocks my world every of the 3 times I have been with her, or will it be one of the 19 to 26 yo old civie chicas that I have meet through friends of friends?

Damn what problems we have here.

The Tall Man.

Mr Enternational
01-19-21, 15:30
Things have not changed economically here in the past 15 years. In fact, the economy is acutely worse. Also market demand for labor is decreased as there are less visitors. All these things favor lower prices , not higherBut you are talking classroom economics, not Southeast Asia and Latin America street economics. Business bad; prices go up to compensate for the loss.

Osteoknot
01-19-21, 15:46
A chica early in South America? WTF? I told her if she hurries, her water will still be cold. And that I cleaned the floor for her. We shall see.

Nounce
01-19-21, 15:54
(4:08 PM, 1/18/2021) Soft Swirl: If I understand you, then I will need water and food.

(4:32 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Don't worry about stupid shit. I'll feed your mouth after you show me how good it can suck.Hilarious.

MiamiBoy1
01-19-21, 16:20
But you are talking classroom economics, not Southeast Asia and Latin America street economics. Business bad; prices go up to compensate for the loss.Street economy is a free market economy, regulated by supply and demand. Compensate for the loss jacking up prices when there is no demand? Good luck with that).

RudeBwoy100
01-19-21, 17:13
Street economy is a free market economy, regulated by supply and demand. Compensate for the loss jacking up prices when there is no demand? Good luck with that).To be fair if these women all colluded together they could make the prices stick at 250-300 k and you guys would still pay because you seem to hate the Centro scene so you get what the duck gets. I'd argue that what these women are doing is smart, they probably even have their own whatsapp group & making sure everyone stays on code.

Sangnyc21
01-19-21, 17:34
The higher the demand for one girl she will simply charge more.

You can negotiate all you want but that can take days until she becomes desperate for money.

Cause this past weekend some of the more in demand girls are asking for 250-300.

Look guys got to be realistic. You're not getting a top notch fb girl for 150 unless you're grandfathered in and she has no other clients.

And yes there are levels of fb girls. While I agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder some girls are just universally seen as more attractive by more men.

The ones that are in demand get their weekend clients here at energy every weekend and it's as simple as that.

Nounce
01-19-21, 18:01
The higher the demand for one girl she will simply charge more.

You can negotiate all you want but that can take days until she becomes desperate for money.

Cause this past weekend some of the more in demand girls are asking for 250-300.

Look guys got to be realistic. You're not getting a top notch fb girl for 150 unless you're grandfathered in and she has no other clients.

And yes there are levels of fb girls. While I agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder some girls are just universally seen as more attractive by more men.

The ones that are in demand get their weekend clients here at energy every weekend and it's as simple as that.Before pandemic, some FB girls that I consider hot are already asking for 250. I got the impression that the flight is pretty full. Was your flight full?

El Centro is a local market so it has local price. FB is a gringo market so it has gringo price. These two are not really comparable in that sense. I know in SE Asia places when the foreigners are gone as like now. The price has regressed to local price.

BootyBandit84
01-19-21, 18:04
To be fair if these women all colluded together they could make the prices stick at 250-300 k and you guys would still pay because you seem to hate the Centro scene so you get what the duck gets. I'd argue that what these women are doing is smart, they probably even have their own whatsapp group & making sure everyone stays on code.I have no doubt they communicate with each other. I would get several friend request or messages from girls pretty much every time I saw a new girl. Usually within the first few hours after the meeting was done. If I liked one of them and got them to meet, they would admit that a friend recommended them to contact me. So yeah, the girls definitely talk to each other.

Sangnyc21
01-19-21, 18:08
Before pandemic, some FB girls that I consider hot are already asking for 250. I got the impression that the flight is pretty full. Was your flight full?

El Centro is a local market so it has local price. FB is a gringo market so it has gringo price. These two are not really comparable in that sense. I know in SE Asia places when the foreigners are gone as like now. The price has regressed to local price.My flight was not that full but the whole building where I am staying was packed with gringos. And girls were coming in and out all weekend.

Mr Enternational
01-19-21, 20:41
Look guys got to be realistic. You're not getting a top notch fb girl for 150 unless you're grandfathered in and she has no other clients.

And yes there are levels of fb girls. While I agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder some girls are just universally seen as more attractive by more men.
El Centro is a local market so it has local price. FB is a gringo market so it has gringo price. These two are not really comparable in that sense. I know in SE Asia places when the foreigners are gone as like now. The price has regressed to local price.For years I had been saying you could get the same damn girl for less and people had always responded impossible. One notorious BM in the Thailand thread had always posted about spending large amounts of money in the clubs every night then taking a chick with him for 5x. His spending was so extravagant that many people thought he was a troll poster regadless of other long time BMs having met up with him and vouched that he does exactly what he reports.

I hung out with him during the lockdown and showed him the ways of the jedeye (not jedi). He ended up getting the exact same chicks for 1x on a normal ass day that he had given 5x to before when they were all dolled up and in that other market. His thing was he liked to see them all fixed up in the party setting versus them showing up at his door with pajamas and flip flops and a baseball cap on for the lower price. They were indeed the same girls though.

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhFUXOX55K50E880wL

Knowledge
01-19-21, 21:38
You were right. It doesn't matter who does or does not believe you.


For years I had been saying you could get the same damn girl for less and people had always responded impossible. One notorious BM in the Thailand thread had always posted about spending large amounts of money in the clubs every night then taking a chick with him for 5x. His spending was so extravagant that many people thought he was a troll poster regadless of other long time BMs having met up with him and vouched that he does exactly what he reports.

I hung out with him during the lockdown and showed him the ways of the jedeye (not jedi). He ended up getting the exact same chicks for 1x on a normal ass day that he had given 5x to before when they were all dolled up and in that other market. His thing was he liked to see them all fixed up in the party setting versus them showing up at his door with pajamas and flip flops and a baseball cap on for the lower price. They were indeed the same girls though.

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhFUXOX55K50E880wL

Sangnyc21
01-19-21, 22:05
For years I had been saying you could get the same damn girl for less and people had always responded impossible. One notorious BM in the Thailand thread had always posted about spending large amounts of money in the clubs every night then taking a chick with him for 5x. His spending was so extravagant that many people thought he was a troll poster regadless of other long time BMs having met up with him and vouched that he does exactly what he reports.

I hung out with him during the lockdown and showed him the ways of the jedeye (not jedi). He ended up getting the exact same chicks for 1x on a normal ass day that he had given 5x to before when they were all dolled up and in that other market. His thing was he liked to see them all fixed up in the party setting versus them showing up at his door with pajamas and flip flops and a baseball cap on for the lower price. They were indeed the same girls though.

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhFUXOX55K50E880wLTry telling the girl whose getting gifts like iPhone 12's and bags from LV and taken on vacations and getting monthly stipends from multiple guys that you're paying 150 mil for sex.

She's not taking it. It's common sense. It's all about their life situation.

What happens a lot with these fb girls is the good ones get wifed up by some idiot quick. I've seen it right on this trip. The funny thing is she's not all that but for a fb girl she top tier. Yes I said idiot.

While I'll never make fun of how much a guy spends on a date, to develop a serious relationship with a prostitute is about as dumb as you can get. She's taking in dicks the way I take in protein on my muscle building diet and theses guys really believe they're the only ones.

Then there's the ones who know there's other guys and want the power trip of outdoing them. At the end they all get nothing and the many desired girls of the mongering world are not there to be had.

These are the things that ruin the market.

I'm sure there are many reading this right now that are guilty of this and would never admit it.

But it's a very common occurrence where guys fall for hookers and think they can change their ways.

So while I understand there are always exceptions. I think the reason there are so many disagreements is because of the level of girls we are seeking.

If you're into centro only then it's a different ball game than fb.

If it's fb only than it's a different ball game than La Isla or the high end girls.

Mr Enternational
01-19-21, 22:34
Try telling the girl whose getting gifts like iPhone 12's and bags from LV and taken on vacations and getting monthly stipends from multiple guys that you're paying 150 mil for sex.Whether you want to believe it or not it happens. One just needs to be at the right place at the right time. You act like the chicks REQUIRE bags and shit. Read the forum and you will not see that is not the case. The real case is that guys push cell phones, vacations, purfume, stipends, and all other shit on them.

Ain't no levels of girls. All these chicks are from humble beginnings. That is their life situation. But you guys create monsters in the name of impressing hookers. I have been with tons of hookers for cheap that mfs have even bought cars, houses, and businesses for. That shit does not impress or intimidate me in the least bit. But if you insist on leaving them on the pedestal...

Knowledge
01-19-21, 22:43
So here we are. Guys are stating clearly and no one is disputing that girls they paid 150,000 they are now paying 250,000. Looking at this as objectively as I can by casting aside my Centro rat mentality that 150,000 is much much more than is reasonable, I struggle with the idea that 150,000 is now off the table. It defies logic.


Try telling the girl whose getting gifts like iPhone 12's and bags from LV and taken on vacations and getting monthly stipends from multiple guys that you're paying 150 mil for sex.

She's not taking it. It's common sense. It's all about their life situation.

What happens a lot with these fb girls is the good ones get wifed up by some idiot quick. I've seen it right on this trip. The funny thing is she's not all that but for a fb girl she top tier. Yes I said idiot.

While I'll never make fun of how much a guy spends on a date, to develop a serious relationship with a prostitute is about as dumb as you can get. She's taking in dicks the way I take in protein on my muscle building diet and theses guys really believe they're the only ones.

Then there's the ones who know there's other guys and want the power trip of outdoing them. At the end they all get nothing and the many desired girls of the mongering world are not there to be had.

These are the things that ruin the market..

Sangnyc21
01-19-21, 22:47
Whether you want to believe it or not it happens. One just needs to be at the right place at the right time. You act like the chicks REQUIRE bags and shit. Read the forum and you will not see that is not the case. The real case is that guys push cell phones, vacations, purfume, stipends, and all other shit on them.

Ain't no levels of girls. All these chicks are from humble beginnings. That is their life situation. But you guys create monsters in the name of impressing hookers. I have been with tons of hookers for cheap that mfs have even bought cars, houses, and businesses for. That shit does not impress or intimidate me in the least bit. But if you insist on leaving them on the pedestal...Like I said it's all situational. You're not getting the girl for no 150 mil if she has 3 dates lined up for 600 mil. Yea maybe eventually you will see her at your price when she doesn't have anyone lined up.

This is the situation I'm encountering rn.

I never said I'm the one buy them shit. But I can see their sm stories.

And I speak to them.

So you want to tell me she going to come to you on your time if she has 3 dates for quadruple what you're offering? Ok!!

And yes there are levels of girls.

The same way Beyoncé is a on a different level than Wendy Williams. There are levels.

But let me guess under the make up they're all the same??

SlapShot10
01-19-21, 23:08
Context: Discussing the possibility of a sugar situation. Clarify that I'm looking for a trio, not a SB.

PP: If I see both of you and we spend a good time together, what will I receive?

Me: Well, normally it's free, with her friends. Other times I pay 200.000.

PP: No gracias.

Me: Ok well you tell me.

PP: $130 USD for 2 hours + taxis.

Me: I don't have USD, sorry.

PP: Ok, 350.000 COP + taxis.

Current COP value of $130 USD: 454.000.

And that, is a Paisa Puta Math Test.

RacShack
01-20-21, 00:26
Context: Discussing the possibility of a sugar situation. Clarify that I'm looking for a trio, not a SB.

PP: If I see both of you and we spend a good time together, what will I receive?

Me: Well, normally it's free, with her friends. Other times I pay 200.000.

PP: No gracias.

Me: Ok well you tell me.

PP: $130 USD for 2 hours + taxis.

Me: I don't have USD, sorry.

PP: Ok, 350.000 COP + taxis.

Current COP value of $130 USD: 454.000.

And that, is a Paisa Puta Math Test.When girl mentions US dollar I say what's that your on cop, but some of this Guys don't understand that, this is pic of a girl I bang all the time when their for 200 k no rush on her Facebook page,.

Osteoknot
01-20-21, 00:47
Soft Swirl was NOT early, so we did not have to realign the earth's axis for the wobble that would have occurred in the time-space-continuum when a chica showed up on time, for the first time in the recorded annals of history.

I am 10 days deep into non-stop sex, drugs (drugs did not start until day 7) and rock and roll. I am in that sleep deprived state borderlining on psychosis, so I am going to crash and reboot. I will write details later with more pics. Everything went great, she stuck to the script.

Shout out to fellow mongerer RiceRocket99, great meeting you, Soft Swirl thought you were super nice. Thanks for keeping her interest up with your fluent Spanish, your timing was spot on. RiceRocket99 proves what I always knew, that there are pros out there playing the game with a silent sophistication that holds up on any level, and who could teach me A LOT. They just don't have the same attention-whoring needs for which I seek near constant gratification.

More later. Don't hate me. Flame is on her way over. I will get 60 minutes sleep. She fucks for free and she is good at it. "Free" defined as I will slip a her a 50 for "taxi" and feed her. And she has a nose like a Hoover. That is Soft Swirl changing, you can see the top of the same water bottle from the previous picture. Flame is in the white cootchie shorts. That is some sweet, prime, just turned 18 years old, cedula confirmed, fat white ass. The game changer is, she worships the ground I walk on. I don't deserve it, but as Clint Eastwood said to Gene Hackman in Unforgiven, right before he blew his head off, "Deserve's got nuthin' to do with it."

Surfer500
01-20-21, 00:47
For years I had been saying you could get the same damn girl for less and people had always responded impossible. One notorious BM in the Thailand thread had always posted about spending large amounts of money in the clubs every night then taking a chick with him for 5x. His spending was so extravagant that many people thought he was a troll poster regadless of other long time BMs having met up with him and vouched that he does exactly what he reports.

I hung out with him during the lockdown and showed him the ways of the jedeye (not jedi). He ended up getting the exact same chicks for 1x on a normal ass day that he had given 5x to before when they were all dolled up and in that other market. His thing was he liked to see them all fixed up in the party setting versus them showing up at his door with pajamas and flip flops and a baseball cap on for the lower price. They were indeed the same girls though.

https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhFUXOX55K50E880wLAll due respect Mr. E, but I don't see a girl used to getting top dollar going for 1/5th of her rate if that is what she is used to getting unless she's very desperate. Maybe that's common in Thailand, but not in Colombia, and yes girls go for more and less, but not with such a wide spread in the multiplier.

So what your saying, which I find hard to believe, is that you showed a guy how to get a girl that he had paid for in the past "the exact same one", lets say for discussion purposes 100, to subsequently go with him for 20, the same exact girl.

This must beg the question at least in the girl's mind, "he paid me 100 before, why should I accept so much less now to go with him?

If you indeed pulled this off, then clearly your a Jedi, and I will fly you down to Medellin, I will put you up, and you can train me in your ways and will start at Gustos and Lleras, then we can go to El Centro and maybe get some 30 K girls to go for 8 K. Now your talking!

Surfer500
01-20-21, 00:50
Context: Discussing the possibility of a sugar situation. Clarify that I'm looking for a trio, not a SB.

PP: If I see both of you and we spend a good time together, what will I receive?

Me: Well, normally it's free, with her friends. Other times I pay 200.000.

PP: No gracias.

Me: Ok well you tell me.

PP: $130 USD for 2 hours + taxis.

Me: I don't have USD, sorry.

PP: Ok, 350.000 COP + taxis.

Current COP value of $130 USD: 454.000.

And that, is a Paisa Puta Math Test.Red flag warning! Any girl in Medellin quoting in USD should be avoided, bad session guaranteed with lots of rules!

Paulie97
01-20-21, 01:39
Context: Discussing the possibility of a sugar situation. Clarify that I'm looking for a trio, not a SB.

PP: If I see both of you and we spend a good time together, what will I receive?

Me: Well, normally it's free, with her friends. Other times I pay 200.000.

PP: No gracias.

Me: Ok well you tell me.

PP: $130 USD for 2 hours + taxis.

Me: I don't have USD, sorry.

PP: Ok, 350.000 COP + taxis.

Current COP value of $130 USD: 454.000.

And that, is a Paisa Puta Math Test.Give them time. With more opportunities to charge in dollars will come increased familiarity with exchange rates. Though it likely will be more in tune with the rate they can get at a currency exchange business, which BTW is much lower than the rate you have in mind.

http://unicambios.com.co/servicios/#serv0.

Knowledge
01-20-21, 02:07
Facts, these are facts.


Whether you want to believe it or not it happens. One just needs to be at the right place at the right time. You act like the chicks REQUIRE bags and shit. Read the forum and you will not see that is not the case. The real case is that guys push cell phones, vacations, purfume, stipends, and all other shit on them.

Ain't no levels of girls. All these chicks are from humble beginnings. That is their life situation. But you guys create monsters in the name of impressing hookers. I have been with tons of hookers for cheap that mfs have even bought cars, houses, and businesses for. That shit does not impress or intimidate me in the least bit. But if you insist on leaving them on the pedestal...

Sangnyc21
01-20-21, 02:29
10 pm til 5 am curfew until next Tuesday.

Unless they change it to a lockdown again.

This is just dumb. It's not preventing anything.

Sangnyc21
01-20-21, 02:46
Look at this genius. She's not even that hot I was shopping around.

JohnnyWalker55
01-20-21, 03:02
So here we are. Guys are stating clearly and no one is disputing that girls they paid 150,000 they are now paying 250,000. Looking at this as objectively as I can by casting aside my Centro rat mentality that 150,000 is much much more than is reasonable, I struggle with the idea that 150,000 is now off the table. It defies logic.Exactly, if I wanted to pay over 250 k cop for a chick I would stay and monger in the states. Seriously anybody paying over $50 usd to bust a nut in Colombia, you're getting played. Unless your pockets are deep and you don't care, more power to you.

Osteoknot, great posts, keep them coming man. Much appreciated. Be there in 3 weeks.

RacShack
01-20-21, 03:04
When girl mentions US dollar I say what's that your on cop, but some of this Guys don't understand that, this is pic of a girl I bang all the time when their for 200 k no rush on her Facebook page,.Pic of all her US dollars.

Sangnyc21
01-20-21, 03:18
Pic of all her US dollars.Lmao let's be real. That's not her pic. I've seen girls post pics of money. And even with what's in that pic it's enough for her not to be a hooker in Colombia anymore.

RacShack
01-20-21, 03:28
Lmao let's be real. That's not her pic. I've seen girls post pics of money. And even with what's in that pic it's enough for her not to be a hooker in Colombia anymore.LOL, come on it's hers, the plastic bag tells it all! Stay safe buddy!

PolloNegro
01-20-21, 03:45
So here we are. Guys are stating clearly and no one is disputing that girls they paid 150,000 they are now paying 250,000. Looking at this as objectively as I can by casting aside my Centro rat mentality that 150,000 is much much more than is reasonable, I struggle with the idea that 150,000 is now off the table. It defies logic.Or need to pay more than $150,000 pesos for 2-3 hours everything included. Hats off to mongers paying more, until you show me evident proof that the date resulted in more than a nut, I'm with knowledge, it defies logic!! Pollo negro is out!

BootyBandit84
01-20-21, 04:12
Exactly, if I wanted to pay over 250 k cop for a chick I would stay and monger in the states. Seriously anybody paying over $50 usd to bust a nut in Colombia, you're getting played. Unless your pockets are deep and you don't care, more power to you.

Osteoknot, great posts, keep them coming man. Much appreciated. Be there in 3 weeks.Haha trust me, the women you could get in California for $50 are women you don't want to get haha. I will be happy to continue to pay my 200 K in Medellin for girls that are smoking hot than try any of the crack heads I could get for the same price in the states.

Surfer500
01-20-21, 04:13
Look at this genius. She's not even that hot I was shopping around.She may be smarter than you think, as she may have snagged a guy in the past for a crazy price, no different than a blind squirrel finding an acorn.

Or, for whatever reason, she doesn't want to go with you, hence the ridiculous price she gave you.

BootyBandit84
01-20-21, 04:15
Look at this genius. She's not even that hot I was shopping around.I tried to contact her when I was there last week but she ignored me. Thanks for letting me know It would have been a waste of time haha.

RiceRocket99
01-20-21, 04:24
It was cool meeting up with you too, Osteoknot. I always enjoy putting a face to the posts of a fellow monger and sharing war stories. I like your writing style that's for sure. You're far too kind, I'm def not a pro in the game by any means. I'm still trying to get to the next level whatever that is for me. Learning the language, the cultural norms, making the chicas laugh and be comfortable around you goes a long way. But there are those you just don't connect with that well no matter how you try and you just brush it off and onto the next. Cheers to all who are here in MDE and those on their way! BTW, the pictures don’t do justice to Soft Swirl, she’s def prettier in person and has a sweet personality that goes with it. She’s def a keeper bro!

Yes, curfew starts Wednesday 10 pm-5 am each day until Tuesday. No complete lockdown on weekend. Not yet at least. Def not holding my breath on that.


Soft Swirl was NOT early, so we did not have to realign the earth's axis for the wobble that would have occurred in the time-space-continuum when a chica showed up on time, for the first time in the recorded annals of history.

I am 10 days deep into non-stop sex, drugs (drugs did not start until day 7) and rock and roll. I am in that sleep deprived state borderlining on psychosis, so I am going to crash and reboot. I will write details later with more pics. Everything went great, she stuck to the script.

Shout out to fellow mongerer RiceRocket99, great meeting you, Soft Swirl thought you were super nice. Thanks for keeping her interest up with your fluent Spanish, your timing was spot on. RiceRocket99 proves what I always knew, that there are pros out there playing the game with a silent sophistication that holds up on any level, and who could teach me A LOT. They just don't have the same attention-whoring needs for which I seek near constant gratification.

More later. Don't hate me. Flame is on her way over. I will get 60 minutes sleep. She fucks for free and she is good at it. "Free" defined as I will slip a her a 50 for "taxi" and feed her. And she has a nose like a Hoover. That is Soft Swirl changing, you can see the top of the same water bottle from the previous picture. Flame is in the white cootchie shorts. That is some sweet, prime, just turned 18 years old, cedula confirmed, fat white ass. The game changer is, she worships the ground I walk on. I don't deserve it, but as Clint Eastwood said to Gene Hackman in Unforgiven, right before he blew his head off, "Deserve's got nuthin' to do with it."

Surfer500
01-20-21, 04:28
So here we are. Guys are stating clearly and no one is disputing that girls they paid 150,000 they are now paying 250,000. Looking at this as objectively as I can by casting aside my Centro rat mentality that 150,000 is much much more than is reasonable, I struggle with the idea that 150,000 is now off the table. It defies logic.Something does sound very off if guys are now paying 100 K more than before when there is an acute shortage of customers due to the Pandemic.

My bet is perhaps a few guys are paying more, and maybe this could be disputed, as logic would dictate that the pricing would be less, not more than before.

Sangnyc21
01-20-21, 04:28
Haha trust me, the women you could get in California for $50 are women you don't want to get haha. I will be happy to continue to pay my 200 K in Medellin for girls that are smoking hot than try any of the crack heads I could get for the same price in the states.I think this is the issue we have.

We all have different reasons for mongering in Colombia.


Some guys are here strictly for the price of pussy and have absolute no care in how the girls look.

I have my own standards. Not saying it's the standard but it's mine just like my money to spend.

But too much disrespecting going on.

I'm giving a detailed honest on the ground report for the fb girls.

If you're not about that then move on and don't judge me or others who use this method.

If I was doing all Gusto girls and I'm paying 200 usd. There are mongers who would find this info useful.

But stop fucking hating and judging others. Stay in your lane. If you're a centro hobbyist then the centro posts are for you etc etc.

Sangnyc21
01-20-21, 04:33
I tried to contact her when I was there last week but she ignored me. Thanks for letting me know It would have been a waste of time haha.How do you even negotiate from that starting point lmao. I straight told her 200 mil she said 300 mil. So Puta Paisa Math at its finest. Needless to say I won't see her.

VsebudetNY
01-20-21, 04:42
I am 10 days deep into non-stop sex, drugs (drugs did not start until day 7) and rock and roll. Colombia Will Expel Foreigners Caught Partying As Virus Spreads:

https://www.barrons.com/news/colombia-will-expel-foreigners-caught-partying-as-virus-spreads-01611028807?

RiceRocket99
01-20-21, 04:49
I'm sure we have beat this topic to death, but everyone rolls their own and different way in MDE. To those Centro mongers, paying 200-250 mil may seem ridiculous. But it's about the experience, the connection, the talent, the time, and much more. Yes, there's still girls in the 150 mil range that I know and I can pay that because I'm pretty much grandfathered in like SangNyc21 put it, so I get the chino paisa discount jajaja. Osteoknot knows what I'm talking about since we met earlier today to shoot the shit. He knows the type and talent of chicas I go after and you're not going to find them in Centro that's for sure. Well, except for the diamonds in the rough I guess.


Exactly, if I wanted to pay over 250 k cop for a chick I would stay and monger in the states. Seriously anybody paying over $50 usd to bust a nut in Colombia, you're getting played. Unless your pockets are deep and you don't care, more power to you.

Osteoknot, great posts, keep them coming man. Much appreciated. Be there in 3 weeks.

RiceRocket99
01-20-21, 04:53
Just have some pesos to pay them off, and party continues.


Colombia Will Expel Foreigners Caught Partying As Virus Spreads:

https://www.barrons.com/news/colombia-will-expel-foreigners-caught-partying-as-virus-spreads-01611028807?

Sangnyc21
01-20-21, 04:55
Just have some pesos to pay them off, and party continues.I think this is to get rid of Venezuelans.

Mr Enternational
01-20-21, 04:58
So what your saying, which I find hard to believe, is that you showed a guy how to get a girl that he had paid for in the past "the exact same one", lets say for discussion purposes 100, to subsequently go with him for 20, the same exact girl.

This must beg the question at least in the girl's mind, "he paid me 100 before, why should I accept so much less now to go with him?LOL. He got them at the clubs they worked at the first time. Second time he got them from the dating site that hookers use to get customers when they were off work.


Finally, after my 9 or so years mongering in Thailand. I found a GoGo Bar girl (Dolls Agogo) willing to fuck for 800 baht ST. I got so excited, I LINEd Mr. E and told him and XXL of my gem. So all those who doubted Mr. E that stuff like this doesn't happen, it happened. And to xxxxxx at that. Must be the end of the world.

Lucky Nuts
01-20-21, 05:46
LOL. He got them at the clubs they worked at the first time. Second time he got them from the dating site that hookers use to get customers when they were off work.Come on Mr. E let's tell the full story. MP paid the high prices during normal times pre-covid and always in the gogo's because he enjoyed playing the big man on campus splashing his dad's money around.

Post Covid his allowance was cut and yes you helped a young guy learn how to use social media (Thai Friendly) to find the same girls after most gogos got shut down due to Covid. Or they were open with no customers so the girls did not want to work in the clubs anymore. Are all the Pattaya gogos still shut down? I quit reading that forum a few months ago when my next trip was cancelled due to Covid.

Anyhow you know better than anyone you cannot compare pre-covid to post-covid prices in Pattaya, Thailand. Can we agree on this?

GeneHickman
01-20-21, 05:51
Look at this genius. She's not even that hot I was shopping around.Yeah, she trolling that's all. Either that or with ever 20 such responses she finding her chump. But seriously I think many of us wouldn't pay that for her Stateside!

Nounce
01-20-21, 06:20
All due respect Mr. E, but I don't see a girl used to getting top dollar going for 1/5th of her rate if that is what she is used to getting unless she's very desperate. Maybe that's common in Thailand, but not in Colombia, and yes girls go for more and less, but not with such a wide spread in the multiplier.

So what your saying, which I find hard to believe, is that you showed a guy how to get a girl that he had paid for in the past "the exact same one", lets say for discussion purposes 100, to subsequently go with him for 20, the same exact girl.

This must beg the question at least in the girl's mind, "he paid me 100 before, why should I accept so much less now to go with him?

If you indeed pulled this off, then clearly your a Jedi, and I will fly you down to Medellin, I will put you up, and you can train me in your ways and will start at Gustos and Lleras, then we can go to El Centro and maybe get some 30 K girls to go for 8 K. Now your talking!It's true. Go to Pattaya thread to search for "Monkey" to find posts. It's not a universal method. As Mr E put it that you need to be at the right place and right time. Right time in this context being lockdown, I guess.

Lucky Nuts
01-20-21, 06:34
I think this is the issue we have.

We all have different reasons for mongering in Colombia

But stop fucking hating and judging others. Stay in your lane. If you're a centro hobbyist then the centro posts are for you etc etc.Great post Sangnyc21! "stay in your lane" I love that line it's perfect for guys reading here.

I'm in Medellin for the winter and banging FB chicas and friends of friends of friends of FB chicas LOL. I give them all "250 mil incluyendo de Ubers". Also banging some SA chicas for the same deal. Some take that offer and others do not. No big deal either way there is so much pussy here.

One thing I think is different with the better looking FB chicas is how often they work. I always ask them and they have to stop and think about the last time they were with a gringo. Or maybe they would be good poker players LOL because they are pretty convincing. But I tend to believe most as they are willing to share many details of lives. And have little or no shame for selling ass.

Mr Enternational
01-20-21, 14:07
Anyhow you know better than anyone you cannot compare pre-covid to post-covid prices in Pattaya, Thailand. Can we agree on this?
It's true. Go to Pattaya thread to search for "Monkey" to find posts. It's not a universal method. As Mr E put it that you need to be at the right place and right time. Right time in this context being lockdown, I guess.Not at all. Remember I have been saying and doing this years before any lockdown. Lockdown was only the thing that made guys end up trying (because they no longer had a club to go to) it instead of considering impossible and never even attempting to go that route. I also suggested guys check out the market because all the chicks go there to get food before work and they could talk to them and exchange info. But for some reason guys have always acted like the expensive club or bar is the only place they could meet chicks and every other way was like kryptonite.

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01-20-21, 14:59
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Nounce
01-20-21, 15:02
Not at all. Remember I have been saying and doing this years before any lockdown. Lockdown was only the thing that made guys end up trying (because they no longer had a club to go to) it instead of considering impossible and never even attempting to go that route. I also suggested guys check out the market because all the chicks go there to get food before work and they could talk to them and exchange info. But for some reason guys have always acted like the expensive club or bar is the only place they could meet chicks and every other way was like kryptonite.Your approach is like using a machine gun. It works but it is different from using a sniper rifle. You will get one of them because you cast a wide net and you are patience with time. I think you are pretty charming too, haha. If you tell me you can get EVERY girl at the price you pay ANYTIME, then I will say I am wrong.

Nounce
01-20-21, 15:28
Ain't no levels of girls. All these chicks are from humble beginnings. That is their life situation. But you guys create monsters in the name of impressing hookers. I have been with tons of hookers for cheap that mfs have even bought cars, houses, and businesses for. That shit does not impress or intimidate me in the least bit. But if you insist on leaving them on the pedestal...Thailand soapies have different pricing for girls. Macau saunas have tiered pricing depending on appearance, ethnicity or race. Japan has a tiered pricing too. I think these are all levels. Do you want to be paid the same as your coworker who doesn't perform as well as you on the job?

I understand sometimes levels doesn't make sense but sometimes it does. Last year I was in another country. I have a list of girls that has a 3 pricing tiers based on look. I went thru a lot of them over a few months. What I found out is the mid-tier girls perform the best and are the most reliable. The highest price girls are flaky, sometimes good, sometimes bad even for the same girl. In those cases, higher price is not worth it. The mid-tier price is best because they are hot enough for me and offer the same level of service that is provided by the lowest tier that usually are older or out of shape.

SavePros321
01-20-21, 15:45
So here we are. Guys are stating clearly and no one is disputing that girls they paid 150,000 they are now paying 250,000.It's the story of the guy who is so desperate and eager to please people he's never met before by giving them his best chica contacts.

Then six months later he wonders why the chica he paid 150 k now is asking for 250 k.

It's simple logic: If you find a gem, what do you gain from giving away that gem to somebody you've never met before "just because"?

Some guys here will be like "plenty of chicas everywhere. What's the big deal about giving a few contacts away"?

And those will be the same guys in your DM trying to get your contacts since they've burned through all of theirs, lmao!

Osteoknot
01-20-21, 15:47
Soft Swirl followed the script to the letter and it was a great turn on. However, with all my Tough Guy talk, when she started going down on me I put a towel over my face and she thought I was laughing at her, but really I was crying. Not wanting to get Vagina Of The Year Award, I quickly pulled it together in about thirty seconds and pulled her into my arms and we started talking for the first time in over a year. I ended up with my knees on the pillow eating out her pussy, way more than hers. Irony! The drugs and sleep deprivation accentuated my emotions. It was never about the blow job. It was about establishing boundaries and control after a long separation; and she needed to know her fuckin' Boss was back in town, and she needs to adjust her life accordingly. Jajajaja, I am so good at Tough Talk when she is not standing right in front or me.

Our friction in the past stemmed from my perception that she is so blatantly mercenary, always bare-backing me and trying every trick to get me to put my "leche en dentro profunda" and finally achieve her long term goal of getting pregnant by me. This is also a huge turn-on. She accepts that we would not get married but she would be more than happy with the Love Child connection and it's attendant responsibilities. I have no doubts she would sink her hooks into me as deep as she could, including any legal angle she could use to her advantage.

The reason I had not seen her in so long was she returned to Venezuela. I gave her some money for the trip and then I left Medellin before she got back and did not get to collect on any pussy or mouth credits. I resented that. I probably gave her more money than I should have, but then ask yourselves two things: How much is the best blowjob of your life worth to you? How much pleasure did I got of our little Power Play today?

Because she was up to her old tricks, I got one back on her and faked my orgasm which I thankfully had not to pull off for decades. I surprised myself with my performance and a split second after the last fake orgasmic plunge, I pulled out and laughed hard in her face, "No real! No real!. No leche! No leche! Jaajajajajajaja!" She thought it was funny, and gave me a sincere chuckle.

She got fat but she still looks great. I can deal with a fat ass and a tiny just about any time.

Finally a light bulb went off in my head. All my girls so far except for Sexy Dexy have gained 10-20 pounds. Duh, Because of the quarantine, they are sitting on their asses at home instead of out and about walking the mountainous terrain that is Medellin. That'll do it, every time.

Her blowjob skills are out of practice. She was good but not great like before. She wouldn't let me stick it up her ass saying I was the last person there over a year ago and we need to take it slower that I was obviously in the mood for at that moment. Irrelevant if her story about that was true or not, but I happen to believe her.

Before I consider turning her out, she will need to get her mouth and tongue muscles back up to speed. I will coach her. She will do anything I ask from her. You can see from her pose she is not shy, more like an exhibitionist. She did not ask for one peso and I gave her 100 and she acted happy to get it, no taxi fare, she took the metro. I bought her a nice lunch at La Chaparral 70, based on that one meal I can't recommend the place. She said her ribs were "no good. " I've heard there is some good food to be found there, we missed it.

The purpose of going there was to meet up with RiceRocket99 from here and we're glad we did. I generally avoid Gringos (is it okay to call you that, jeje?) but RiceRocket99 is a welcome exception to that rule. He gave me that, "I got your back" vibe that is essential in a fellow mongerer.

She had made me a sandwich and brought it to me which was sweet and in fact was the first thing I had eaten in over a day. We spent all afternoon together, 3 different sex episodes. She did a tiny bump of 2 See up each side and then made her silly and giggly. She left when my hallucinations were just starting from my sleep deprivation and I crashed.

She wanted to return early this morning but La Gacela threw me a curve and WassApped me she is coming by this morning. I thought La Gacela was switching to a day shift, but apparently not yet.

Flame and Paisa Girl stopped by in the evening after my first power nap for some chill time. I told them I did not want to pay one peso. They agreed. Final bill. Hotel guest fee 20 mil COP X 2; domicilio and taxi fare another 50; and she did a wonderful baby girl crying act that had to be seen to be believed, and got another 70 out of me for delivery of 2 see that I let her keep. Total damages 160 for "not wanting to spend one peso," for two cute, cedula confirmed, 18 year old chicas, who wanted to have sex but I was too tired. Oh yeah, add another 15 mil COP for a pot pipe and a mask I gave to Flame. I would be happy with that deal anytime although probably better if I am not on the tail-end of a ten-day bender when I do it! Soft Swirl just needs some Mattress Olympics training and she will quickly be back up to speed. I happen to know just the Guy who can give it to her. Mi.

Osteoknot
01-20-21, 16:40
I reupped for another week at my hotel, during which time my Numero Uno Novia Cat Girl will believe I am just arriving into MDE, sort of.

I usually find the the best price on line. Not this time. The online price on line looked a little high. Went downstairs, girl gave me a rate 100 mil COP cheaper for one week. Worth checking, odd.

Usually it's the opposite.

Gratuitous foto.

Surfer500
01-20-21, 17:32
Your approach is like using a machine gun. It works but it is different from using a sniper rifle. You will get one of them because you cast a wide net and you are patience with time. I think you are pretty charming too, haha. If you tell me you can get EVERY girl at the price you pay ANYTIME, then I will say I am wrong.I think I already cleared this up, he is a Jedi. In Thailand if you pull a girl from a go-go the house is taking a cut, nowadays, if there are no go-go's then I can see a guy paying 20% of the go-go price when in reality it may only be half to the girl not 1/5th, hence the analogy was flawed, with my remarks being this is Colombia, not Thailand, hence it's like comparing apples to oranges and my invite to Mr. E on my nickel to Medellin to teach me the way of the Jedi!

Surfer500
01-20-21, 18:33
I reupped for another week at my hotel, during which time my Numero Uno Novia Cat Girl will believe I am just arriving into MDE, sort of.

I usually find the the best price on line. Not this time. The online price on line looked a little high. Went downstairs, girl gave me a rate 100 mil COP cheaper for one week. Worth checking, odd.

Usually it's the opposite.

Gratuitous foto.So which Hotel are you in, and there's a joiner fee of 20 K for each visitor? Also, what is the weekly rate you got. Please advise. Thanks.

Kinosellis
01-20-21, 18:51
My testing center just sends me an email. I figured I'd print it out but I don't know if they would accept that?

LoveItHere69
01-20-21, 19:56
Ain't no levels of girls. All these chicks are from humble beginnings. Then in reverse. There are no different levels of guys. The 2 week millionaires are the same as the Centro rat pensioners. Wow! Who knew!

Surfer500
01-20-21, 20:47
I just purchased a one way ticket on Jetblue from LAX to MDE for the third week of February and noticed roundtrip flights on Jetblue for as low as $ 350 roundtrip for departures in the last week of February leaving midweek and returning midweek two weeks later. I actually used points to purchase the one way ticket, and it was approximately 8,000 points but when I went to "check out", it said it was only 4,000 points. In checking the one way price in dollars, it was like $ 150 USD so I don't know if there is a glitch in the Jetblue system, but I got charged only 4,000 points so I guess I got a one way fare of around $ 75 USD however I did pay for upgraded seats which did cost more than that. Given that I used points I cancel at anytime with no penalties, and the flight leaves at 11:55 PM with a 1:40 layover in FLL, so a perfect connection time. There were a lot of other flight options available, with Spirit actually being a little cheaper but Jetblue is much better all around. Now is a good time to buy flights being refundable with no penalties.

ColombiaLover
01-20-21, 22:12
I have taken Spirit with the PCR requirement in place. Just be sure the e-mail includes your name, date of the test, and the negative result. Be sure the e-mail indicates PCR.


My testing center just sends me an email. I figured I'd print it out but I don't know if they would accept that?

SpiderRider
01-20-21, 22:12
10 pm til 5 am curfew until next Tuesday.

Unless they change it to a lockdown again.

This is just dumb. It's not preventing anything.Check the adjacent municipalities Envigado, Itagui, Sabaneta, possibly Bello, they were open last Friday night and Saturday day time.

RacShack
01-20-21, 22:20
So which Hotel are you in, and there's a joiner fee of 20 K for each visitor? Also, what is the weekly rate you got. Please advise. Thanks.I've asked him also PMand no response, some people don't like to share this information, I understand, I used to brag about a place when traveling and before you know it you can never get a room their when needed, but all your buddies are their having a blast and your staying down the road, LOL, stay safe guys!

Fun Luvr
01-20-21, 22:27
My testing center just sends me an email. I figured I'd print it out but I don't know if they would accept that?I traveled to Medellin last October and everyone accepted a printed copy of the test results. I had the test done at two places. Both places sent an email with their letterhead and the results. I don't know what you have, but if it's only a text email, I doubt it will be accepted.

Sangnyc21
01-20-21, 22:46
Check the adjacent municipalities Envigado, Itagui, Sabaneta, possibly Bello, they were open last Friday night and Saturday day time.This particular curfew was for the whole Department of Antioquia. Also last week was dry law with a strict weekend curfew so I'm quite sure they were breaking the rules along with all the girls that came to see me as well. 😂.

Osteoknot
01-20-21, 23:33
So which Hotel are you in, and there's a joiner fee of 20 K for each visitor? Also, what is the weekly rate you got. Please advise. Thanks.There are 3 Ayenda hotels on or one block off the main drag of Avenida 70, and I have stayed at all three and recommend all three. The Imperio 70 Ayenda 1234 is closest to the metro. Ayenda 1228 Balcones de la 70 is at the opposite end of the Avenida 70, but still not a bad walk from the metro, and you don't have to cross the eight-lane Avenida San Juan to get to Exito (supermarket). Gran Imperio is in between, one block over has a nicest outdoor cafe of the three, and is usually the cheapest. I will never post exactly where I am staying.

They all charge 20 mil COP guest fee / 24 hours. Subject to change. I negotiated that the fee covers ANY one girl at a time in a 24 period. In other words, you should be able to bring in as many girls as you want, one at time, as long as they don't overlap for 20 mil COP per day or book double occupancy. If you start stacking them, then you have to pay per chica. 3 girl maximum per Room. The easiest was around that is to simply book another Room for <$20 USD and now you can have six girls in a Room, or split them up however you want. And the hotel made me to stop and catch my breath when I was on my sixth girl in one 24 period in a single room.

I get double discount, first from the Booking site I use for the hotel, and then "Ayenda Dollars" directly from the chain so my prices are rock bottom. For YOU Surfer, I went back down to the desk and axed them what my rate was for the week, since frankly I don't keep track - 249 mil COP, 6 nights. What I was trying to point out was the DIFFERENCE of 100 mil COP for the week between the online price and the cheaper price at the front desk. In the past the better price was on line but not this time. Clear as mud? I might be a little punchy. I slept last night night but I did not repay the deficit in full. I had to send Soft Swirl down the back staircase while La Gacela came up the front. The girl at the front desk helped me out a lot and kept La Gacela in front of her while Soft Swirl went out the back. THAT is what you call guest friendly and much appreciated.

FatmanSlayer
01-21-21, 00:30
I'm sure we have beat this topic to death, but everyone rolls their own and different way in MDE. To those Centro mongers, paying 200-250 mil may seem ridiculous. But it's about the experience, the connection, the talent, the time, and much more. Yes, there's still girls in the 150 mil range that I know and I can pay that because I'm pretty much grandfathered in like SangNyc21 put it, so I get the chino paisa discount jajaja. Osteoknot knows what I'm talking about since we met earlier today to shoot the shit. He knows the type and talent of chicas I go after and you're not going to find them in Centro that's for sure. Well, except for the diamonds in the rough I guess.There is a old Chinese guy who frequents centro a lot and will haggle you if he finds out you pay more than 80 k for anyone.

RiceRocket99
01-21-21, 01:15
I plan to extend my 90 day (for another 90 days) and I'm doing some research on it. It seems I can do it online, just need to show 1) passport photo 2) tourist stamp photo 3) ticket of onward travel. I've read that with the pandemic that it's not a guarantee that it will be approved. Anyone here has experience with this? Thanks for any info.

SpiderRider
01-21-21, 02:33
I plan to extend my 90 day (for another 90 days) and I'm doing some research on it. It seems I can do it online, just need to show 1) passport photo 2) tourist stamp photo 3) ticket of onward travel. I've read that with the pandemic that it's not a guarantee that it will be approved. Anyone here has experience with this? Thanks for any info.I have extended on several occasions. The process begins on-line, but I always have to make a trip to the Migracióand office to complete the process. The last time was in March, less than a week before the world went crazy. So, things might have changed regarding the tourist visa extension. I've made 2 trips (with credit card charges due at time of service) in the past 6 weeks regarding my current visa application. Waiting for a 3rd and hopefully final appointment. The system is a mess right now. If you're interested in professional support, send pm To me and I'll give you a reliable contact.

John Gault
01-21-21, 02:45
It's the story of the guy who is so desperate and eager to please people he's never met before by giving them his best chica contacts.

Then six months later he wonders why the chica he paid 150 k now is asking for 250 k.

It's simple logic: If you find a gem, what do you gain from giving away that gem to somebody you've never met before "just because"?

Some guys here will be like "plenty of chicas everywhere. What's the big deal about giving a few contacts away"?

And those will be the same guys in your DM trying to get your contacts since they've burned through all of theirs, lmao!It takes a while for guys being burnt by giving away the few gems they can come up with and seeing the negative results of their actions.

In my mind I give a lot of info to help people but I draw the line at sending gems away to guys I don't know.

The other thing that burns me up is what happened to me years ago in Mayorista. I was sitting at a table and a guy comes out of a taxi and asks me to help him get a girl. He showed me the one he liked. I made the deal for him as he had zero Spanish. He then takes the girl to a taxi and leaves with her. Not a two word thank you to me.

RiceRocket99
01-21-21, 03:28
Thanks for the info. Will send PM, appreciate it.


I have extended on several occasions. The process begins on-line, but I always have to make a trip to the Migraciand office to complete the process. The last time was in March, less than a week before the world went crazy. So, things might have changed regarding the tourist visa extension. I've made 2 trips (with credit card charges due at time of service) in the past 6 weeks regarding my current visa application. Waiting for a 3rd and hopefully final appointment. The system is a mess right now. If you're interested in professional support, send pm To me and I'll give you a reliable contact.

Sangnyc21
01-21-21, 03:41
It's the story of the guy who is so desperate and eager to please people he's never met before by giving them his best chica contacts.

Then six months later he wonders why the chica he paid 150 k now is asking for 250 k.

It's simple logic: If you find a gem, what do you gain from giving away that gem to somebody you've never met before "just because"?

Some guys here will be like "plenty of chicas everywhere. What's the big deal about giving a few contacts away"?

And those will be the same guys in your DM trying to get your contacts since they've burned through all of theirs, lmao!Remember one thing guys. If the girl is universally hot to many eyes she's going to eventually find one or 2 guys that will give her off the walls money and gifts.

Also she prob has many friends in the business whose prob had success stories as well.

There's nothing you can do about this.

I've had a girl lined up for a year now. Settled on 250 mil everything I wanted in the session.

Well she's found her sugar daddy now buying her gifts, taking her places and guess what?? Yup I won't be seeing her.

Unless you can satisfy her cravings of gifts money etc yourself she'll always be available for other men. So whether you share info or not will not make a difference.

Maybe for a short time period. But in the long run if she's hot enough she'll get what she wants.

There are many girls I don't even think that are all that and not worth 200 mil for me charging 500 and up.

Surfer500
01-21-21, 05:12
There are 3 Ayenda hotels on or one block off the main drag of Avenida 70, and I have stayed at all three and recommend all three. The Imperio 70 Ayenda 1234 is closest to the metro. Ayenda 1228 Balcones de la 70 is at the opposite end of the Avenida 70, but still not a bad walk from the metro, and you don't have to cross the eight-lane Avenida San Juan to get to Exito (supermarket). Gran Imperio is in between, one block over has a nicest outdoor cafe of the three, and is usually the cheapest. I will never post exactly where I am staying.

They all charge 20 mil COP guest fee / 24 hours. Subject to change. I negotiated that the fee covers ANY one girl at a time in a 24 period. In other words, you should be able to bring in as many girls as you want, one at time, as long as they don't overlap for 20 mil COP per day or book double occupancy. If you start stacking them, then you have to pay per chica. 3 girl maximum per Room. The easiest was around that is to simply book another Room for <$20 USD and now you can have six girls in a Room, or split them up however you want. And the hotel made me to stop and catch my breath when I was on my sixth girl in one 24 period in a single room..This is good information, and having two rooms is a great idea, I'm returning in February and have an apartment in Poblado, but am looking for a back-up location / hotel to take some of my Chicas besides Poblado. I used to stay with some of them in El Centro, but like the Laureles area as well.

Sounds like you really know how to "grease the skid's" enlisting the Hotel staff to assist in your escapades! Thanks for the info, and I'm waiting for a report describing how you had a pair of girls in each room, meaning two in each room, and you pounding on all of them switching every few minutes from one to the next. Maybe they even have some adjoining rooms at one of the Hotels, then you don't have to get dressed when you go back and forth between the rooms.

DogLife
01-21-21, 14:04
There are 3 Ayenda hotels on or one block off the main drag of Avenida 70, and I have stayed at all three and recommend all three. The Imperio 70 Ayenda 1234 is closest to the metro. Ayenda 1228 Balcones de la 70 is at the opposite end of the Avenida 70, but still not a bad walk from the metro, and you don't have to cross the eight-lane Avenida San Juan to get to Exito (supermarket). Gran Imperio is in between, one block over has a nicest outdoor cafe of the three, and is usually the cheapest. I will never post exactly where I am staying.

They all charge 20 mil COP guest fee / 24 hours. Subject to change. I negotiated that the fee covers ANY one girl at a time in a 24 period. In other words, you should be able to bring in as many girls as you want, one at time, as long as they don't overlap for 20 mil COP per day or book double occupancy. If you start stacking them, then you have to pay per chica. 3 girl maximum per Room. The easiest was around that is to simply book another Room for <$20 USD and now you can have six girls in a Room, or split them up however you want. And the hotel made me to stop and catch my breath when I was on my sixth girl in one 24 period in a single room.

I get double discount, first from the Booking site I use for the hotel, and then "Ayenda Dollars" directly from the chain so my prices are rock bottom. For YOU Surfer, I went back down to the desk and axed them what my rate was for the week, since frankly I don't keep track - 249 mil COP, 6 nights. What I was trying to point out was the DIFFERENCE of 100 mil COP for the week between the online price and the cheaper price at the front desk. In the past the better price was on line but not this time. Clear as mud? I might be a little punchy. I slept last night night but I did not repay the deficit in full. I had to send Soft Swirl down the back staircase while La Gacela came up the front. The girl at the front desk helped me out a lot and kept La Gacela in front of her while Soft Swirl went out the back. THAT is what you call guest friendly and much appreciated.Thanks for the details. Just one thing. Do these Ayendas have safes in their rooms. Is it a standard or we need to ask for a room which has a safe.

Osteoknot
01-21-21, 14:52
Thanks for the details. Just one thing. Do these Ayendas have safes in their rooms. Is it a standard or we need to ask for a room which has a safe.No safes. Safety deposit box at front desk.

Turgid
01-21-21, 15:03
Remember one thing guys. If the girl is universally hot to many eyes she's going to eventually find one or 2 guys that will give her off the walls money and gifts.

Also she prob has many friends in the business whose prob had success stories as well.

There's nothing you can do about this.

I've had a girl lined up for a year now. Settled on 250 mil everything I wanted in the session.

Well she's found her sugar daddy now buying her gifts, taking her places and guess what?? Yup I won't be seeing her.

Unless you can satisfy her cravings of gifts money etc yourself she'll always be available for other men. So whether you share info or not will not make a difference.

Maybe for a short time period. But in the long run if she's hot enough she'll get what she wants.

There are many girls I don't even think that are all that and not worth 200 mil for me charging 500 and up.So many guys get so excited about hooking up with hot girls, viz, 8's and 9's. They post here with drool dripping off their lips. Hope they realize that hot girls get fucked by the most men.

Osteoknot
01-21-21, 15:21
The long shot of the back of the chica is out my hotel window. Avenida 70 is not a pick up area like Botero Park but that are definitely girls who can be picked up.

La Gacela (la chica negro) is looking less Gacela-ish and more Amazonian with the weight gain, but I am digging it. She is strong, tight, and we have had some fun wrestling matches. And her muscular black ass is a great contrast to Flame's soft big white ass.

I had to repeat Soft Swirl's huge apple bottom ass because she is worth a second look.

The Tall Man
01-21-21, 17:13
It takes a while for guys being burnt by giving away the few gems they can come up with and seeing the negative results of their actions.

In my mind I give a lot of info to help people but I draw the line at sending gems away to guys I don't know.

The other thing that burns me up is what happened to me years ago in Mayorista. I was sitting at a table and a guy comes out of a taxi and asks me to help him get a girl. He showed me the one he liked. I made the deal for him as he had zero Spanish. He then takes the girl to a taxi and leaves with her. Not a two word thank you to me.Ditto this. Been there and done that, no more.

I have about 200 contacts in WhatsApp and FB messenger, these I have gathered with much time and effort over the past 4 years and I now protect this list.

Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".

No more. Now I do have a few real cuties that I will give out their contact numbers for, why now? Because they have been spoiled and on their way up to becoming higher earners selling their pussy, and I have trained them in the bedroom and outside how to treat your man so they got game. And I always ask beforehand that they are good with this.

But otherwise never again.

The Tall Man.

JjBee62
01-21-21, 19:21
Great post Sangnyc21! "stay in your lane" I love that line it's perfect for guys reading here.

I'm in Medellin for the winter and banging FB chicas and friends of friends of friends of FB chicas LOL. I give them all "250 mil incluyendo de Ubers". Also banging some SA chicas for the same deal. Some take that offer and others do not. No big deal either way there is so much pussy here.

One thing I think is different with the better looking FB chicas is how often they work. I always ask them and they have to stop and think about the last time they were with a gringo. Or maybe they would be good poker players LOL because they are pretty convincing. But I tend to believe most as they are willing to share many details of lives. And have little or no shame for selling ass.This is the part most guys don't understand. They see the casa chicas, doing 6-10 guys a day, the popular street girls doing that many or more and assume the Facebook girls are doing the same. Many of them are only seeing 1 or 2 guys a week. Sure there are some scheduling 2 or 3 a day and some of the Mansion girls need a revolving door they're in and out so much, but most are fairly low volume.

SavePros321
01-21-21, 20:30
Unless you can satisfy her cravings of gifts money etc yourself she'll always be available for other men. So whether you share info or not will not make a difference.True, but don't let it be you who inadvertently messed up the great deal you had going.

I've got chicas I've been seeing since 2014. Some have completely disappeared from sight.

But at least I know that there was nothing that I did on my end (like foolishly giving away my contacts) that accelerated their exit either to another guy or from the game itself.

Mojo Bandit
01-21-21, 20:55
I am wondering if anyone recognizes this chica and can tell me if she is prepago. I found her in my "suggested friends" section of my FB account. For my taste she is hot but a thorough look at her profile there is no give away that she is prepago.

LOL this post is comes right after The Tall Man's post about not giving out contacts. LOL so I know he is not going to tell me LOL but I get his point! Even if I told him a thousand times that I am not going to overpay this chica. I did not understand this at first and thought people were just being assholes but Experiences and the experiences of other mongers teach us to develop out own rules.

I will not share her name or profile link with anyone even in PM because I do not know if she is prepago and so I do not consider it good form to share that stuff without knowing. Also if someone can confirm to me that she is a working girl than I would ask them to supply her first name so we know we are talking about the same chica and they are not just confusing her with some chica that looks a like her. I consider this a long shot but if anyone recognizes her and knows her to be working girl than a PM to me with her name.

Osteoknot
01-21-21, 21:53
Ditto this. Been there and done that, no more.

I have about 200 contacts in WhatsApp and FB messenger, these I have gathered with much time and effort over the past 4 years and I now protect this list.

Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".

No more. Now I do have a few real cuties that I will give out their contact numbers for, why now? Because they have been spoiled and on their way up to becoming higher earners selling their pussy, and I have trained them in the bedroom and outside how to treat your man so they got game. And I always ask beforehand that they are good with this.

But otherwise never again.

The Tall Man.Mongering is essentially every man for himself, IMO. This is only my second trip to Medellin and I do not consider myself an expert about this city, at least not yet. I can only imagine what it will escalate to once I am relocated here permanently and embedded. There are guys who act like you're holding out when you don't cough up the exact info they want about girls, hotels, etc. That would be correct, I am holding out unless I have met you, approved you, and you have someone worthwhile to trade, WITH her permission in advance, jeje. Don't ask and look for handholding.

This morning, La Gacela and I walked from the Estadio Metro Station to UniCentral Mall, a 30 minute stroll along the full length of Avenida 70. I bet we walked by 20 little boutique hotels and as many apartments for rent within a block of Avenida 70 that would be just as "friendly" as any Ayenda property. When I land in a new area, I intially book a hotel for 3 or 4 nights, and then go exploring, in case I find something I like better. Make a flash card with three or four questions in Spanish, "How much for one night? Are guests allowed? What is the guest fee? Is the WiFi strong?" What else do you need to know? Jot down the 4 answers on the back of the business card from the hotel. Take a foto of the front of the hotel to match an image with the card. Don't hesitate to ask to see a Room. They will probably show you their best room, then ask can you get that exact same room? At the end or your reconnoiter, glance over your cards and decide your next move. Ostee out.

Gratuitious fotos of my Numero Uno Novia's ass and her Just A Walkin' Down the Street Singin' Do Wah Diddy Diddy Dum Diddy Do. The Third foto is Soft Swirl who just arrived a few minutes ago an hour after La Gacela left for work. This is Soft Swirl's encore visit after the Pillow Talk. I have two states of existence in Medellin. I am either with a girl, or a girl is on her way over. Any lapses and I get agitated.

Numero Uno Novia Catgirl and I are hooking up Sunday for the first time this trip. Unless I make up another bullsh*t story about flight delays. She is ready to kill me because she strongly suspects I have been here fucking my brains out for more than a week, and she would be correct. Jajajajaja. I need to get a giant mural foto of my bedroom back in the states and use it as a backdrop. The main way she knows I am here is that I have not accepted a video call from her in over a week. Kinda hard to explain that away after the fifth or sixth time, jajaja. Her last message to me was "I'm going to go fuck a young chico now. " I asked her to please use a condom.