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This is good information, and having two rooms is a great idea, I'm returning in February and have an apartment in Poblado, but am looking for a back-up location / hotel to take some of my Chicas besides Poblado. I used to stay with some of them in El Centro, but like the Laureles area as well.
Sounds like you really know how to "grease the skid's" enlisting the Hotel staff to assist in your escapades! Thanks for the info, and I'm waiting for a report describing how you had a pair of girls in each room, meaning two in each room, and you pounding on all of them switching every few minutes from one to the next. Maybe they even have some adjoining rooms at one of the Hotels, then you don't have to get dressed when you go back and forth between the rooms.The most Rooms I have ever run at the same time was 4 at four different hotels, all within a couple of blocks, using Ayenda 1228 de la Balcones 70 as the anchor. That was unusual and 99% of the time I only need one Room. That will change when Catgirl enters the equation. I don't recommend scattering Rooms around town. You want them bunched up as close as possible or even in the same hotel. Hotel Botero was great for that, with 14 or however many floors it was of Rooms. Remember my "Can I fuck you while you're sleeping" rule? Essential in the situation when you are popping your head in a room in the middle of the night. I tip the maids and I treat the hotel staff with politeness and they watch out for me. Thanks for reminding me, I need to tip that girl that kept La Gacela and Soft Swirl from running into each other. Ostee Out. Soft Swirl is braiding my hair, that is foreplay, jaja.
I am wondering if anyone recognizes this chica and can tell me if she is prepago. I found her in my "suggested friends" section of my FB account. For my taste she is hot but a thorough look at her profile there is no give away that she is prepago.I agree she is hot. If I am going to guess, I would say she is. She has a friend (same first name, last name Gomez) is a prepago. Maybe you can ask Gomez to confirm.
Ditto this. Been there and done that, no more.
I have about 200 contacts in WhatsApp and FB messenger, these I have gathered with much time and effort over the past 4 years and I now protect this list.
Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".
No more. Now I do have a few real cuties that I will give out their contact numbers for, why now? Because they have been spoiled and on their way up to becoming higher earners selling their pussy, and I have trained them in the bedroom and outside how to treat your man so they got game. And I always ask beforehand that they are good with this.
But otherwise never again.
The Tall Man.If these are your non pros that you got to before other mongers did then you shouldn't give the info.
You don't ever have to give anyone's info anyway.
But my point is if she's a truly hot fb girl in the eyes of many it's not going to make a difference.
Odds are she has friends who will guide and her try to find her dates to get commission which is a huge thing out here.
Every girl is not only a hooker she's a pimpette. Lmao.
when in reality it may only be half to the girl not 1/5th, hence the analogy was flawedThat is incorrect. The customer will pay house bar fine to take the girl out already. Maybe the girl will share with mms or others who help her but that is not the rule and there is no way that it will be anywhere close to half.
An example is that you don't get girl inside Gusto, you get number or you make deal outside to get lower price, or just wait for a few weeks or months. Maybe one of them will bite. That is how I understand what Mr E is saying. In this approach, all similar girls in one's eyes are interchangeable.
That is incorrect. The customer will pay house bar fine to take the girl out already. Maybe the girl will share with mms or others who help her but that is not the rule and there is no way that it will be anywhere close to half.
An example is that you don't get girl inside Gusto, you get number or you make deal outside to get lower price, or just wait for a few weeks or months. Maybe one of them will bite. That is how I understand what Mr E is saying. In this approach, all similar girls in one's eyes are interchangeable.Gustos doesn't make anything off the girls it's their own pricing.
They even have to pay 20 k to enter.
I've gotten deals as low as 300 mil for an all nighter at Gustos before. With BBFS multiple times and she spent the night.
It's rare but if the girl likes you it might be your lucky night.
So unless they changed something in the past year I know for a fact Gustos doesn’t make money off the girls.
Gustos doesn't make anything off the girls it's their own pricing.We were talking about gogos in Thailand. I just use Gusto as an example for Medellin.
Been in the same hotel since arriving eleven nights ago, here in MDE. For the first time they asked to see my negative Covid-19 test result and they made another copy of my passport. I asked them if was under arrest (thinking back to my little Immigration scare when I came in) and she just laughed and said, "No, es una nueva rutina."
Foto Taken Within The Last Hour, of Soft Swirl, who just left. Dexy coming tonight if she wakes up. Flame in the wings waiting for any word with her friend Paisa Girl. 2 deep after that. Of course, Cat Girl would be here as fast as a Paisa can move, which is when they want, if I told her where I was. Problem there, she might be brandishing a.
The best part of the sex session Mia and I just finished was me on my back, her head on my flat stomach, her body to the side, fucking her face.
That is incorrect. The customer will pay house bar fine to take the girl out already. Maybe the girl will share with mms or others who help her but that is not the rule and there is no way that it will be anywhere close to half.
An example is that you don't get girl inside Gusto, you get number or you make deal outside to get lower price, or just wait for a few weeks or months. Maybe one of them will bite. That is how I understand what Mr E is saying. In this approach, all similar girls in one's eyes are interchangeable.Colombia is not Thailand, and with both countries having literally nothing in common, pricing comparisons between the two would not be correct, with the inference by Mr. E being that if you can do this here (Thailand), you can do it anywhere (Colombia), which is not the case.
Mojo Bandit
01-22-21, 01:17
Gustos doesn't make anything off the girls it's their own pricing.
They even have to pay 20 k to enter.
I've gotten deals as low as 300 mil for an all nighter at Gustos before. With BBFS multiple times and she spent the night.
It's rare but if the girl likes you it might be your lucky night.
So unless they changed something in the past year I know for a fact Gustos doesn't make money off the girls.I am fairly certain that there is no legal way for Gustos to make money off the girls, I might be wrong since there are casas, but the girts at Gustos are not employees so that might be the difference, I am thinking of back in the day when La Dolce Vita in Cartagena was still in El Laguito and in the beginning around 2009 when I first started going there the deal was you had to buy the chica 2 drinks before you could leave with her. Then sometime a couple of years later they raised it and said that guys had to spend a minimum and it seems like it was around 50 k but I cannot remember for sure but when added to what you are paying the chica it was expensive, Bouncers would check with a bartender to see if you had already spent your minimum before you could head out with a chica. I started showing up at that little plaza and just hang on Calle 1 b outside the plaza where La Dolce Vita was located and where the taxis dropped off the chicas and catching them before they went inside.
I know that when they started that spending minimum that hurt their business some because lots of guys on this board complained said that was the reason they are not going there anymore. Some in-the-know members said the owner was trying to make more money to cover gambling debts. Now back in those days when La Dolce Vita was in Laguito it was also crawling with gringo regulars that I suspect were mostly DEA and being ex military myself I smelled military guys also, (probably advisors and probably some CIA spooks) there hair and their composure give them away. Also there was (and may still be) a regular rotation of Israeli military guys (they own / owned a house in Laguito) so with all these regulars maybe the owner felt like he could get away with it but I also think this: if he could just get a cut from the transaction with the chicas then why piss everyone off with the spending minimum? I think that when that Secret Service agent stupidly got into hot water in Cartagena that may have ruined it for the DEA guys also. I bet they regret ever partying with the idiot Secret Service.
So Gustos has their spending minimum built into the price of each drink LOL The more extravagant your tastes the more exaggerated their overpricing becomes so Heineken is 3 times normal where an Aguila is just priced twice what is normal. I also think their business model is slightly different in that they cater almost exclusively to a high roller / high spending type so the chicas are just piggybacking with there prices, they are there finding the high roller big spenders that show up there. While I do wish there was a more-like-La Dolce Vita type place in Medellin, the truth is there are too many alternatives to worry about it.
El Moreno 92
01-22-21, 01:44
I just did 15 days in Medellin. I stayed at the Soul Apartments (Where Cra 34 and Cra 35 meet. South of Parque Lleras). I absolutely love that place. They have it all, namely a pool. The rooms are large. I stayed on the 9th floor and had a wonderful of the Medellin skyline from my balcony. Now on the chicas.
In my 15 days, I had 20 chicas. They were between Facebook and Tinder. Of those 20 chicas, some them gave wonderful BBBJs to completion.
I like my chicas slim with huge tetas and just about all of them were like that. For the ones I that saw, screwed (or got sucked), paid and they left immediately, none of them were more than 200 K.
- Osoria (I know some of why'all know or been with her. Cute Afro-Colombiana huge tetas Facebook queen).
- Nathaly.
- Luisa (prettiest one by far BBBJ CIM pro. Came in her mouth 4 times).
- Laura.
- Sofia (super huge tetas. Paja China all night).
- Yadna (small little chica, but can screw until oblivion).
- Camila.
- Johana.
- Victoria.
- Isabella (a true favorita of mine. Makes me cum faster than normal all the time).
- Mariana.
- Maria (looks like a tiny Mariah Carey. Best doggystyle screw).
- Evelyn.
- Shara.
- Linda (nice afro-colombiana. Hugh tetas. Played with them for one hour. No break).
- Amber (second prettiest one).
- Sara.
- Kym (BBBJ CIM machine. Seems to never be satisfied until you blow a load in her boca).
- Jenifer.
- Rosa (Looked mixed Latina & Asian, simply pretty. I got hard just starring at her face. Nice body).
The chicas with no descriptions were regular one and done. The other ones were repeat chicas and rightfully so. Before this trip, I had not went anywhere for a minute and had a TON OF BUILT UP TENSION to release. And damn did these chicas help me release. I feel better now.
I love Medellin. Heaven on earth for me. I am already making plans to go back in February.
In my 15 days, I had 20 chicas.Medellin is the shit. I like the names.
Colombia is not Thailand, and with both countries having literally nothing in common, pricing comparisons between the two would not be correct, with the inference by Mr. E being that if you can do this here (Thailand), you can do it anywhere (Colombia), which is not the case.Forget about Thailand. If you follow Mr E's last few posts. You will see he is suggesting to get the girl's number at the places like super market or Beer Store then he doesn't need to pay Gusto price. I image he can get 100 numbers from 100 Gusto' girls, one of them will eventually bite the low price. If he can meet the one of the Gusto's girls in El Centro, that is even better because he only needs to pay 30 K, instead of $200 - $300 mentioned here.
Now back to Thailand. 1000 baht of the 5000 probably is the bar fine to the bar. MP is not a weekend warrior. His family is wealthy and he will pay more than required just because he can. Some wealthy people are like that.
MarquisdeSade1
01-22-21, 04:37
Some wealthy people are like that.Do the super rich do that anywhere else? Do they ask how much and then pay more at car dealers buying a house or at hotels restos etc?
Or buying businesses? You say some wealthy people do that? I'm not wealthy but I know some that are, most wealthy people I've known are more frugal than most other people.
Ever hear the axiom "a fool and his money will soon part" maybe they are just trying to overcompensate for something?
Have you seen fotos of MP? I have.
Are you talking about fools that are so stoopid and desperate they spend it like drunken sailors when they see a puta, like those fools that blow Powerball jackpots in 5 yrs.
I never pay "FOOL" price LOL.
Forget about Thailand. If you follow Mr E's last few posts. You will see he is suggesting to get the girl's number at the places like super market or Beer Store then he doesn't need to pay Gusto price. I image he can get 100 numbers from 100 Gusto' girls, one of them will eventually bite the low price. If he can meet the one of the Gusto's girls in El Centro, that is even better because he only needs to pay 30 K, instead of $200 - $300 mentioned here.Mr. E was talking about getting girls for 1/5 of the price in Thailand, and now your talking about getting girls for 1/10th of the price in Colombia. So your saying that Gustos girls who get 200-300 working there can be found in El Centro for 30 K. Everybody knows about getting girls phone numbers to meetup with them outside of the working girls venues, but the thought that a girl who can get 300 K in Gustos is going to go for 30 K in El Centro, well that is a stretch, but I've been wrong before, and perhaps some other members can chime in on this.
Elvis 2008
01-22-21, 08:44
Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".Yeah, TM, I only had two women in Medellin during Covid crisis and I gave them very little but I apologize for anything I did in upsetting the market there. There is this notion that when you give women money you are buying goodwill like it is a bank deposit, but it is not.
I have been watching videos of this guy:https://www.youtube.com/c/EntrepreneursInCars/videos.
And he just affirmed for me something I knew in my experience was true is that there is no such bank. You spend money helping dad's business or mom's health and the second that money leaves your wallet it is forgotten about.
There is a phrase called alpha fucks and beta bucks. It means betas are going to spend a lot more money and get less sexually than alphas. I hated the alpha phrase because it means like it was the alpha for a bunch of guys, and there can only be so many leaders. However in a relationship of two, the male who is paying should always be the alpha. If you are not then get out!
I am in Cancun now with a Medellin lovely. I sent her $500 not as a gift but that is the amount a Colombian woman needs to clear customs. She got right through like she always does because she knows how to handle herself, and of course, the first thing she did was give me back the money as soon as she got here. How many women would have kept it? How many would have claimed it was lost? How many would not show up? She is the rare woman who wants to compliment a man rather than suck him dry. There are women out there, granted not many, who really do want to produce on their own. The more guys who make it rain with a woman, the fewer of these women there are going to be.
I just did 15 days in Medellin. I stayed at the Soul Apartments (Where Cra 34 and Cra 35 meet. South of Parque Lleras). I absolutely love that place. They have it all, namely a pool. The rooms are large. I stayed on the 9th floor and had a wonderful of the Medellin skyline from my balcony. Now on the chicas.
In my 15 days, I had 20 chicas. They were between Facebook and Tinder. Of those 20 chicas, some them gave wonderful BBBJs to completion.
I like my chicas slim with huge tetas and just about all of them were like that. For the ones I that saw, screwed (or got sucked), paid and they left immediately, none of them were more than 200 K.
- Osoria (I know some of why'all know or been with her. Cute Afro-Colombiana huge tetas Facebook queen).
- Nathaly.
- Luisa (prettiest one by far BBBJ CIM pro. Came in her mouth 4 times).
- Laura...Sounds like you have a great time, I hope to make it this summer.
My Numero Uno Cat Girl tried to smoke me out the other day with this histrionic suicide note, not coincidentally they day after La Gacela's birthday. That is a huge pain point for her and as bad luck would have it Cat Girl's birthday is three days before. And I wasn't there.
(11:43 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I don't want to live. I'm going to kill myself.
(11:45 AM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: If you don't care about yourself, but you care about me, do not talk like that.
(11:45 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: Forgive me.
(11:45 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: But this is my decision.
(11:47 AM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: I think this is all one big trick just to get rid of me, just tell me you want to break up, I won't bother you.
(11:47 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I will always love you.
(11:48 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I left our puppy in a park to a man who could take her home.
(11:48 AM, 1/18/21) Ostee: I never liked that dog. Tania was so much better.
(11:49 AM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: Where are you now?
(11:51 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: Having one last coffee.
(12:21 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I'm going to leave this world.
(12:21 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I became so empty by myself.
(12:21 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I'm not happy, I will jump.
Shows me a photo of the view from a highway overpass.
(12:22 PM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: Don't jump from there. It is not high enough. You could survive as a paralyzed person.
(12:23 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: But if I'm lucky and a car passes over me and kills me after I land.
(12:26 PM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: Yes, but if the car sees you and moves and you have a broken neck, you will be paralyzed for life, but alive and miserable. People will constantly be touching you and you won't be able to move.
(12:27 PM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: The best way is to walk down and stand on the edge of the road and step in front of the largest truck you see. The end will be quick and painless.
(12:27 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: Yes.
(12:29 PM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: I will come pick you up Sunday. You will feel better when we are together again.
(12:30 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: Teamooo.
I have no doubts she was feeling miserable but mainly she is trying to smoke me out, telling me my fun-fucking time is over, and to come get her. I told her I am still in USA and landing here Sunday but she knows better. She went to my favorite old haunt yesterday, Hotel Botero, looking for me but it was shut down. I will post one foto of her face she sent me after she told me she went to Botero. You will never recognize her again from that foto jajajaja. That is one crazy, crazed, Paisa. I love her. She is drop dead gorgeous and I think that shows through, a little, jajajaja. Also, a few reminder fotos of why we call her Cat Girl, Michelle Pfieffer eat your heart out!
Supposedly the new travel requirements for anyone entering the United States includes being quarantined upon arriving. The length of the quarantine is being reviewed but according to an article in Conde Nast today it's 10 days. That's a boner killer for sure if true.
My Numero Uno Cat Girl tried to smoke me out the other day with this histrionic suicide note, not coincidentally they day after La Gacela's birthday. That is a huge pain point for her and as bad luck would have it Cat Girl's birthday is three days before. And I wasn't there.
I have no doubts she was feeling miserable but mainly she is trying to smoke me out, telling me my fun-fucking time is over, and to come get her. I told her I am still in USA and landing here Sunday but she knows better. She went to my favorite old haunt yesterday, Hotel Botero, looking for me but it was shut down. I will post one foto of her face she sent me after she told me she went to Botero. You will never recognize her again from that foto jajajaja. That is one crazy, crazed, Paisa. I love her. She is drop dead gorgeous and I think that shows through, a little, jajajaja. Also, a few reminder fotos of why we call her Cat Girl, Michelle Pfieffer eat your heart out!So are you fluent in Spanish and translating the WhatsApp conversations into English. It would be interesting to see how she was saying things in Spanish.
It could be as true as anything else. Are there any sources more official than Conde Nast?
Supposedly the new travel requirements for anyone entering the United States includes being quarantined upon arriving. The length of the quarantine is being reviewed but according to an article in Conde Nast today it's 10 days. That's a boner killer for sure if true.
US will now soon require a 10 day quarantine for all travelers arriving from overseas. Hopefully Colombia will not reciprocate.
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So are you fluent in Spanish and translating the WhatsApp conversations into English. It would be interesting to see how she was saying things in Spanish.I am 1/4 fluent. RiceRocket99 is fluent. I can order food, take a taxi, check into a hotel, make small talk with a chica for about 5 minutes. Tell a few jokes. Understand twice as much as I can speak.
Those Whassap convos are pure cut and paste into Google Translate.
New girl here now, well first time this trip. I am surprised no one mentioned her.
GI Jane.
US will now soon require a 10 day quarantine for all travelers arriving from overseas. Hopefully Colombia will not reciprocate.
Already Biden administration off to a horrible precedent......There is no national requirement to quarantine on arrival as of yet. This may be changing shortly, so please check back for updates. Travelers should check quarantine requirements for the state they are traveling to, as some states such as Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, Alaska, and Hawaii have implemented a mandatory quarantine for international travel.
Still have questions? Check the source.
For full details and exemptions, see.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Updated on January 22, 2021.
No first hand knowledge but in the past few weeks I have seen multiple FB posts from my FB chicas asking her friends "who wants to go to centro for the day". Now it might have been just to go to the park or it might have been to see if they could catch a gringo or three, can't say for sure. My point being, if a FB girl who normally gets 150-200 mil COP will drop to 30-50 mil, maybe some of the "Gustos girls" would too. : shrug:
Mr. E was talking about getting girls for 1/5 of the price in Thailand, and now your talking about getting girls for 1/10th of the price in Colombia. So your saying that Gustos girls who get 200-300 working there can be found in El Centro for 30 K. Everybody knows about getting girls phone numbers to meetup with them outside of the working girls venues, but the thought that a girl who can get 300 K in Gustos is going to go for 30 K in El Centro, well that is a stretch, but I've been wrong before, and perhaps some other members can chime in on this.
She looks familiar, that black and white photo of her with the bent crop / whip, I swear I saw that before on FB or maybe you posted it here before? Either way, good luck with her, I look forward to hearing about the encounter.
My Numero Uno Cat Girl tried to smoke me out the other day with this histrionic suicide note, not coincidentally they day after La Gacela's birthday. That is a huge pain point for her and as bad luck would have it Cat Girl's birthday is three days before. And I wasn't there.
Also, a few reminder fotos of why we call her Cat Girl, Michelle Pfieffer eat your heart out!
I am wondering if anyone recognizes this chica and can tell me if she is prepago. I found her in my "suggested friends" section of my FB account. For my taste she is hot but a thorough look at her profile there is no give away that she is prepago.
LOL this post is comes right after The Tall Man's post about not giving out contacts. LOL so I know he is not going to tell me LOL but I get his point! Even if I told him a thousand times that I am not going to overpay this chica. I did not understand this at first and thought people were just being assholes but Experiences and the experiences of other mongers teach us to develop out own rules.
I will not share her name or profile link with anyone even in PM because I do not know if she is prepago and so I do not consider it good form to share that stuff without knowing. Also if someone can confirm to me that she is a working girl than I would ask them to supply her first name so we know we are talking about the same chica and they are not just confusing her with some chica that looks a like her. I consider this a long shot but if anyone recognizes her and knows her to be working girl than a PM to me with her name.Daniela, used to work at Fase 2, sorry can't PM.
No first hand knowledge but in the past few weeks I have seen multiple FB posts from my FB chicas asking her friends "who wants to go to centro for the day". Now it might have been just to go to the park or it might have been to see if they could catch a gringo or three, can't say for sure. My point being, if a FB girl who normally gets 150-200 mil COP will drop to 30-50 mil, maybe some of the "Gustos girls" would too. : shrug:I can see a FB chica accepting 50 K versus 150 K, but a Gusto chica used to getting 300 K accepting 30 K, well I still think that's a stretch, but anything is possible. And as far the FB chicas going to El Centro for the day, sounds like they might of been planning to snag a gringo at the park like you have hypothesized, make a little money, have lunch, and go shopping. I've seen Chicas I've taken upstairs in El Centro afterwards shopping for clothes with their earnings, and there are some FB chicas that have worked El Centro so what you have speculated about makes sense.
El Moreno 92
01-23-21, 12:28
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New girl here now, well first time this trip. I am surprised no one mentioned her.
GI Jane.Nice! My type. Small / Slim.
Elvis 2008
01-23-21, 15:02
US will now soon require a 10 day quarantine for all travelers arriving from overseas. Hopefully Colombia will not reciprocate......[Deleted by Admin]
Vaccine was announced.
Before there were no infectious variants of Covid (despite my screaming that there were), now there is one every damned day.
I posted studies showing that Moderna vaccine was 85% effective with one dose and the booster made it go to 95% effective. Given that data, it made sense to me to give more people one vaccine then people who had one shot another one.
Of course, Saint Fauci, who is known in medical circles as a drug company hack and vaccinologist, said people should have two.
The latest on this is the South African variant, and the vaccine does not work as well against it so better have two. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/21/dr-fauci-says-covid-vaccines-appear-to-be-less-effective-against-some-new-strains.html.
If you know how the vaccine works, this claim makes NO sense.
The NYT is now actually going to go after people in government probably to protect Biden. This was published 2 days prior to Biden getting into office:
Early in the pandemic, many health experts — in the USA And around the world — decided that the public could not be trusted to hear the truth about masks. Instead, the experts spread a misleading message, discouraging the use of masks.
Their motivation was mostly good. It sprung from a concern that people would rush to buy high-grade medical masks, leaving too few for doctors and nurses. The experts were also unsure how much ordinary masks would help.
But the message was still a mistake.
It confused people. (If masks weren't effective, why did doctors and nurses need them?) It delayed the widespread use of masks (even though there was good reason to believe they could help). And it damaged the credibility of public health experts.
Right now, public discussion of the vaccines is full of warnings about their limitations: They're not 100 percent effective. Even vaccinated people may be able to spread the virus. And people shouldn't change their behavior once they get their shots.
These warnings have a basis in truth, just as it's true that masks are imperfect. But the sum total of the warnings is misleading, as I heard from multiple doctors and epidemiologists last week.
"It's driving me a little bit crazy," Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown School of Public Health, told me.
End of quote. Can you believe this shit? The NYT elevates flip flop Fauci to saint and bashes Trump as an idiot and now finally tells the truth even though they leave out Fauci's name. Cowards.
Why the fuck would you quarantine people coming in from abroad when one in 30 people in the USA currently and officially have active disease (more like one in 15 probably really do) and there is ZERO evidence that it shows it does any good?
First, it was the CDC ramming the negative Covid test down the throats of airlines and now there is this.
Can you think of anything outside of politics requiring a negative Covid test by air into the USA and not by land or sea?
This is not science. These are people with degrees in a science major or with a title who are advocating for more power for themselves and politicians using them. Right now, Biden is telling the hotel and airline industry, "I own you".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0UV7Y-OEEw
I have seen more people get the virus eating around at a dinner table than anything else. 75% of cases of Covid are spread at home. Of course, there was an explosion of cases after Christmas and Thanksgiving then. People need to keep face to face conversations to a minimum.
I wish I could have faith our government was actually doing things that worked against the virus instead of just doing something so it can show it cares.
Both of these policies are totally bird brained.
US will now soon require a 10 day quarantine for all travelers arriving from overseas. Hopefully Colombia will not reciprocate.
Already Biden administration off to a horrible precedent......Nothing wrong with that. It's becoming standard across the globe as countries try to prevent the spread of new variants of Covid, as well as just general spread. Most countries it is 14 days. But 10 days combined with a test before entry seems reasonable.
This weekend La isla is confirmed open til 5 am even with the curfew in place.
GeneHickman
01-23-21, 19:39
Nothing wrong with that. It's becoming standard across the globe as countries try to prevent the spread of new variants of Covid, as well as just general spread. Most countries it is 14 days. But 10 days combined with a test before entry seems reasonable.Reasonable for who? Why that when no restrictions with domestic travel? How is a 3 HR flight from Florida to colombia different to a east coast to west coast flight.
These are totally aribitrary and non evidence based rules. They hold no logic and are tools of a totalitarian power hungry class. States with harsher lockdowns haven't controlled this any better than those without. California v Texas for example.
A better policy is to acknowledge individual rights and constructive solutions for safe travel instead. We have been in this for a year now. These aren't emergency measures any more. Worse yet, we have been allowing non tested travel for months now and suddenly this is going to work? Nonsense. At things stand between infected and vaccinated, we are likely peri 20% population with some immunity going up by 6-8% a month with vaccinations/infections. These numbers alone will slow the spread. Nothing magical about 60% for herd, that's just what is needed to stop this thing cold. We are already seeing this winter surge levelling off and trending back lower.
Vaccine passports, testing at airports, masking and social distancing, enforceable protocols and screenings. Current policy is power hungry idiot driven.
There are better more effective and acceptable ways. But if the people are ok with it. See'est la vie.
This weekend La isla is confirmed open til 5 am even with the curfew in place.I read somewhere, if they open and not supposed to be and get raided, whoever is their will be deported back to their country and black listed from returning, how much truth this is, not sure! But be careful guys!
Tomorrow, I pick up Novia #1 Cat Girl and we start living together, first in a hotel, then an apartment or a house. I am looking forward to it. She is what brought me here in the first place. I am not saying I won't sneak in a blow job here and there (my Spanish teacher, jeje) but for the most part I will be a good novio. The times I leave and return from the Colombia is the fudge factor for when I stray, as in the past 2 weeks. All my girls (they don't all belong just to me but that's how I say it) know about Cat Girl and know when it is time to lay low. Another reason for the rankings.
Remember I wrote how blatantly mercenary Soft Swirl is (new foto) toward me? Well, as you hopefully know by now, everyone here calls cum, "leche" for milk. Except for Soft Swirl, she yells out, "Ninos, ninos, ninos!" when she thinks I am about to climax, Geeez. Jajjaja. Funny as shite which she is and one of the main reasons I let her hang out. She is sitting next to me as I write this. She points out that I have not given her ANY money since her arrival. This is a good point to know. Chicas don't count food, guest fees, taxi fare, and to a certain extent gifts toward what they believe they deserve. You can point it out to them but it won't change their minds. Their straight-up fuck fee is the ONLY thing that counts in their minds. She's right, I have been getting off cheap and I will toss her 200 today since who knows when I will see her again with Cat Girl entering the picture. BTW, Soft Swirl IS my Spanish teacher, jeje.
Also foto of my 3-way extension cord in action and one foto for you feet guys (Soft Swirl has pies lindas).
I will try and post a bunch of "catch up" fotos before I pick up Cat Girl. Some really hot not fat chicas from the the most recent three nights.
If you are so inclined, send good vibes toward La Gacela, she caught the COVID, she appears miserable. I can't transmit or catch it again so no worries there, and I won't discuss it here so don't ask. La Gacela has the same strain that Soft Swirl and Cat Girl had months ago, the primary symptom is headache, very bad, with generalized weakness. Not respiratory. Not fever which just adds another layer of bullshite to the temperature screens they do everywhere around here.
Reasonable for who? Why that when no restrictions with domestic travel? How is a 3 HR flight from Florida to colombia different to a east coast to west coast flight.
These are totally aribitrary and non evidence based rules. They hold no logic and are tools of a totalitarian power hungry class. States with harsher lockdowns haven't controlled this any better than those without. California v Texas for example.
A better policy is to acknowledge individual rights and constructive solutions for safe travel instead. We have been in this for a year now. These aren't emergency measures any more. Worse yet, we have been allowing non tested travel for months now and suddenly this is going to work? Nonsense. At things stand between infected and vaccinated, we are likely peri 20% population with some immunity going up by 6-8% a month with vaccinations/infections. These numbers alone will slow the spread. Nothing magical about 60% for herd, that's just what is needed to stop this thing cold. We are already seeing this winter surge levelling off and trending back lower.
Vaccine passports, testing at airports, masking and social distancing, enforceable protocols and screenings. Current policy is power hungry idiot driven.
There are better more effective and acceptable ways. But if the people are ok with it. See'est la vie.Your not alone with your "angst", as so many things don't make any sense at all pertaining to COVID, and how it's being addressed in each Country, and in the USA, with each State and Counties within the State's handling things differently, along with all the inequities.
I at times just want to go into hibernation and woken up when it's all over.
This makes life worth living?
This weekend La isla is confirmed open til 5 am even with the curfew in place.
TitanicVisit
01-23-21, 20:31
This weekend La isla is confirmed open til 5 am even with the curfew in place.How does one get there without getting in trouble? Will you be stopped by the police going there?
Mr. E was talking about getting girls for 1/5 of the price in Thailand, and now your talking about getting girls for 1/10th of the price in Colombia. So your saying that Gustos girls who get 200-300 working there can be found in El Centro for 30 K. Everybody knows about getting girls phone numbers to meetup with them outside of the working girls venues, but the thought that a girl who can get 300 K in Gustos is going to go for 30 K in El Centro, well that is a stretch, but I've been wrong before, and perhaps some other members can chime in on this.Surfer Surfer. Are we two disciples trying to decode Jedi master's teaching? LOL. If 1/5 is the way of Jedi, then 1/5 it is.
I think Mr E only talks about successful instances, he does not talk about success rate. So for him, 1 in 100 is the same as 100 in 100 given that all women are the same without makeup. This is a simplified view but that is the gist of understanding it from my view.
I personally think a woman need to start with a good base to look good with or without makeup depending on the context. Use runway fashion model as an example, you can't be one if you are not tall and slim and that is the starting base which is not replaceable by makeup. I think that is why we seem to see Brazilian models more often than Colombia models because Brazilians are simply much taller.
It could be as true as anything else. Are there any sources more official than Conde Nast?It's widely reported. It is in an executive order that you can read from White House web site.
but a Gusto chica used to getting 300 K accepting 30 K, well I still think that's a stretch, but anything is possible. Surfer, you are taking this too seriously. What is your definition of Gusto chica? My definition is a chica that has worked in Gusto even if she never had a customer from inside Gusto.
To Surfers s point. You wrote used to implying they were getting that. Which is possible but extremely unlikely.
Surfer, you are taking this too seriously. What is your definition of Gusto chica? My definition is a chica that has worked in Gusto even if she never had a customer from inside Gusto..
They say they're doing the 2-week study of
travel regulations including vaccines well I got a vaccine and the only thing they gave me is a little card that says CDC with the dates of the vaccination and the batch. Not even my social security number. So how is that going to work? No one is really thinking everything seems to be a new joke reaction.
It's widely reported. It is in an executive order that you can read from White House web site.
Surfer Surfer. Are we two disciples trying to decode Jedi master's teaching? LOL. If 1/5 is the way of Jedi, then 1/5 it is.
I think Mr E only talks about successful instances, he does not talk about success rate. So for him, 1 in 100 is the same as 100 in 100 given that all women are the same without makeup. This is a simplified view but that is the gist of understanding it from my view.
I personally think a woman need to start with a good base to look good with or without makeup depending on the context. Use runway fashion model as an example, you can't be one if you are not tall and slim and that is the starting base which is not replaceable by makeup. I think that is why we seem to see Brazilian models more often than Colombia models because Brazilians are simply much taller.I think we can agree that Mr. E is a Jedi master, and being his disciples, we should refrain from questioning his infinite wisdom in the way of women! LOL.
They say they're doing the 2-week study of
travel regulations including vaccines well I got a vaccine and the only thing they gave me is a little card that says CDC with the dates of the vaccination and the batch. Not even my social security number. So how is that going to work? No one is really thinking everything seems to be a new joke reaction.It will be interesting to see what the new travel regulation recommendations will be in two weeks. A hard and fast quarantine of ten days for all arrivals to the USA besides the testing requirement will in essence be like a turd in the punchbowl effectively shutting air travel further down and throwing tourism out the door. Perhaps for those who have been vaccinated, with some type of verifyable proof besides the CDC card, will result in just a test for entry back into the USA with no quarantine. Time will tell.
They say they're doing the 2-week study of
travel regulations including vaccines well I got a vaccine and the only thing they gave me is a little card that says CDC with the dates of the vaccination and the batch. Not even my social security number. So how is that going to work? No one is really thinking everything seems to be a new joke reaction.I'm hoping to get a Fake vax certificate-- I had the covid and it was no big deal-- I do not fear it-- I fear the poison vaccine. The old and infirm Should Isolate. We need to OPEN the world-.
Old and Sick All Should Flee Get Thee To a Nunnery.
MarquisdeSade1
01-23-21, 23:48
They say they're doing the 2-week study of
travel regulations including vaccines well I got a vaccine and the only thing they gave me is a little card that says CDC with the dates of the vaccination and the batch. Not even my social security number. So how is that going to work? No one is really thinking everything seems to be a new joke reaction.I was given a card from Moderna, I'm not impressed I doubt immigration will be either.
To Surfers s point. You wrote used to implying they were getting that. Which is possible but extremely unlikely.
.It is to setup a scenario for that purpose. Like you said, possible. When one casts a net big enough, and can wait long enough, the possibility increase.
My posts are just trying to put myself in other's shoes to understand their point of view.
That's a reliable source. All that was mentioned was Conde Nast. Surfer is a sensible guy but so much nonsense from others gets passed around these web sites that I feel the need to constantly question and confirm sources.
It's widely reported. It is in an executive order that you can read from White House web site.
Surfer, you are taking this too seriously. What is your definition of Gusto chica? My definition is a chica that has worked in Gusto even if she never had a customer from inside Gusto.No kidding. A "Gusto chica" is a pretty nebulous concept. There's a hell of a lot of chicas who have gone in once or twice to try their luck.
No kidding. A "Gusto chica" is a pretty nebulous concept. There's a hell of a lot of chicas who have gone in once or twice to try their luck.Perhaps another way of looking at what defines a "Gusto Chica" at least in my mind, is one that has enough "game" to pull guys from Gustos getting at least 300 K and more. In other words, these type of women are doing the pulling versus the guys if that makes any sense, as I have seen this before in other higher end venues in the past.
With this definition, I don't see them going with guys for 30 K in El Centro, and a Gusto Chica according to my definition is going to have to be very attractive and experienced in dealing with foreigners, versus an El Centro Chica who will be like a fish out of water in Gustos as you have alluded to.
GeneHickman
01-24-21, 04:02
They say they're doing the 2-week study of
travel regulations including vaccines well I got a vaccine and the only thing they gave me is a little card that says CDC with the dates of the vaccination and the batch. Not even my social security number. So how is that going to work? No one is really thinking everything seems to be a new joke reaction.They're not doing jack shit. When you go for the 2nd shot they just write down the batch number for the 2nd shot and where you got it and that's it. No way they're studying anything. This is just an arbitrary power grab. This is why they have no credibilityy and why people will eventually ignore them. That quarantine will be a damn joke as they will never be able to enforce it,
Agree with you. It's complete bullshit.
They're not doing jack shit. When you go for the 2nd shot they just write down the batch number for the 2nd shot and where you got it and that's it. No way they're studying anything. This is just an arbitrary power grab. This is why they have no credibilityy and why people will eventually ignore them. That quarantine will be a damn joke as they will never be able to enforce it,
Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never mix the pink and white shit. At first, you will think you are getting away with it because it feels pretty good. But when you hit the threshold point, you will be sicker than a rattlesnake bite, sicker than 99% of COVID cases, and it takes days to wear off.
I experienced it twice because I was too stupid to figure it out the first time. Sickest I have ever been in my life. My girls were telling me to go to the hospital. I used to brag that it didn't get interesting until you were mixing in your third or fourth drug together, but don't do these two together. You won't die but you will wish you were dead. When I told my dealer what I had done he said, "Oh my God, never mix the natural with the chemical. " Jajajajaja I thought of it tonight because both substances were in my Room at the same time.
New Foto.
Surfer don't forget about the gusto king who got the 8th from gusto to stay a week for 300 mil. The king is out.
Perhaps another way of looking at what defines a "Gusto Chica" at least in my mind, is one that has enough "game" to pull guys from Gustos getting at least 300 K and more. In other words, these type of women are doing the pulling versus the guys if that makes any sense, as I have seen this before in other higher end venues in the past.
With this definition, I don't see them going with guys for 30 K in El Centro, and a Gusto Chica according to my definition is going to have to be very attractive and experienced in dealing with foreigners, versus an El Centro Chica who will be like a fish out of water in Gustos as you have alluded to.
I can see a FB chica accepting 50 K versus 150 K, but a Gusto chica used to getting 300 K accepting 30 K, well I still think that's a stretch, but anything is possible. And as far the FB chicas going to El Centro for the day, sounds like they might of been planning to snag a gringo at the park like you have hypothesized, make a little money, have lunch, and go shopping. I've seen Chicas I've taken upstairs in El Centro afterwards shopping for clothes with their earnings, and there are some FB chicas that have worked El Centro so what you have speculated about makes sense.Maybe you're looking at it from the wrong direction.
I can see a girl bringing her cousin or friend who works El Centro to Parque Lleras for the night.
Found another Ayenda Hotel #1219 in the Avenida 70 area. I would stay there. Most Ayenda Hotels are numbered which is NOT part of their address, which is confusing at first. I took Soft Swirl on a long walk to try and get some of the fat off of her ass and we walked right by this Hotel.
The reason it was not on my radar before is because it is too far off Avenida 70, about 4-5 short blocks on the opposite end of the Estadio Metro Station. BUT it is close too the largest shopping mall in the area UniCentral, a 5 minute walk from this hotel. You would still have no problem exploring Avenida 70 from here. Remember, taxis are super cheap.
I don't normally think of the mongering lifestyle as heavily into retail, but one thing for sure, chicas dig a stroll thru the mall and I will leave it at that.
The third foto shows the walking and bicycle path directly in front of the hotel that leads you to the mall. The hotel is in nice neighborhood that turns residential just a block in the opposite direction of the mall. I went on line and found a single occupancy rate of $17 per night with a free breakfast.
If either or both of you two fat Gringo living fossils who were sitting at an outside table at Provocacacion Charcuteria yesterday are here, Yeah that was me who threw back two bottles of Club Colombia beer at the same time with one hand with the bottoms of the bottles pointed toward the sky, without spilling a drop. My girlfriend thought you were both creepy, jajajajajajajaaaaa. Keep dreamin' but not in a thousand years.
Saturday night.
It was pretty crowded but today they closed at 11. The night before on a Friday they closed at 230 am.
The way I understand it is they have a deal worked out with the cops.
If you take one of their taxis back it shouldn't be a problem.
As far as the talent, well I've been to Colombia so many times it's takes a special girl to catch my eye. And needless to say she wasn't there this night. But lots of eye candy for all different tastes.
Good vibes nonetheless.
So far my trip is filled with brand new fb girls I've been banging.
The 2 prettiest faces I've banged ever in medellin were on this trip back to back.
Absolutely angelic pretty faces. The only downside they are on the flaca side and one is really skinny that I won't repeat. The other one I might.
Will not name names cause I met them off Instagram and don't know if they want their info plastered onto this site.
But so far so good and for the fb girls I've paid an average of 200 plus taxi so 250 average.
The one Instagram girl with 400 k followers was 500 for 3 hours and all the dirty stuff I wanted.
The other pretty face 200 with taxi 250, comes in with an iPhone 12 and I ask her how much does that cost here she says idk it was a gift!! Lmao. Wtf are you guys doing?? I just busted one down her throat and yet some moron thinks she’s being faithful to him?? Hilarious.
I'm trying to get into this exclusive list of local soap opera stars and tv personalities that are exclusively catered to the high end.
If I make progress I'll report. But the going rate is 500 usd and up with conditions.
I'm sure many on this forum will have something to say but bring it on idc at all. I got another 7 weeks and having the time of my life.
Cool Sangnyc21! To me that is great value. This type of approach will give you memories for life, One can not always aim for lowest possible average rate, you got to LIVE a little bit now and then.
The one Instagram girl with 400 k followers was 500 for 3 hours and all the dirty stuff I wanted.
I'm trying to get into this exclusive list of local soap opera stars and tv personalities that are exclusively catered to the high end.
If I make progress I'll report. But the going rate is 500 usd and up with conditions.
I'm sure many on this forum will have something to say but bring it on idc at all. I got another 7 weeks and having the time of my life.
John Gault
01-24-21, 13:47
Saturday night.
I'm trying to get into this exclusive list of local soap opera stars and tv personalities that are exclusively catered to the high end.
If I make progress I'll report. But the going rate is 500 usd and up with conditions.
I'm sure many on this forum will have something to say but bring it on idc at all. I got another 7 weeks and having the time of my life.Yes let us know. Especially the conditions.
Surfer don't forget about the gusto king who got the 8th from gusto to stay a week for 300 mil. The king is out..Surfer already said lockdown doesn't count.
Perhaps another way of looking at what defines a "Gusto Chica" at least in my mind, is one that has enough "game" to pull guys from Gustos getting at least 300 K and more. In other words, these type of women are doing the pulling versus the guys if that makes any sense, as I have seen this before in other higher end venues in the past.
With this definition, I don't see them going with guys for 30 K in El Centro, and a Gusto Chica according to my definition is going to have to be very attractive and experienced in dealing with foreigners, versus an El Centro Chica who will be like a fish out of water in Gustos as you have alluded to.Just think about it, if a girl is going to El Centro to charge 30 K and do it in a possibly dingy short time room. They could do the same in Gusto or nearby and it is almost guaranteed it will be a better, cleaner room and bed.
People tend to generalize a specific event like they saw a El Centro chica in Park LLeras, then generalize it. But the fact is that no one has ever mentioned seeing a Gusto chica by your definition in El Centro. These are two very different situations but generalization makes both situation the same
Surfer already said lockdown doesn't count.
Just think about it, if a girl is going to El Centro to charge 30 K and do it in a possibly dingy short time room. They could do the same in Gusto or nearby and it is almost guaranteed it will be a better, cleaner room and bed.
People tend to generalize a specific event like they saw a El Centro chica in Park LLeras, then generalize it. But the fact is that no one has ever mentioned seeing a Gusto chica by your definition in El Centro. These are two very different situations but generalization makes both situation the sameYes exactly, nowone has, or ever will, see a "Gusto Chica" in El Centro, but at least we have a "Gusto King" among us to remind us of his reign while in Medellin.
PacoEspanis
01-24-21, 16:45
Saturday night.
It was pretty crowded but today they closed at 11. The night before on a Friday they closed at 230 am.
The way I understand it is they have a deal worked out with the cops.
If you take one of their taxis back it shouldn't be a problem.
As far as the talent, well I've been to Colombia so many times it's takes a special girl to catch my eye. And needless to say she wasn't there this night. But lots of eye candy for all different tastes.
Good vibes nonetheless.
So far my trip is filled with brand new fb girls I've been banging..Good report.
How do you find the girls on Facebook or Instagram?
Saturday night.
It was pretty crowded but today they closed at 11. The night before on a Friday they closed at 230 am.
The way I understand it is they have a deal worked out with the cops.
If you take one of their taxis back it shouldn't be a problem.
As far as the talent, well I've been to Colombia so many times it's takes a special girl to catch my eye. And needless to say she wasn't there this night. But lots of eye candy for all different tastes.
Good vibes nonetheless..Is Isla located way up in the hills of Poblado, I think above Tesoro, on a residential street versus a street with a bunch of high rise apartments? If so, I think I was there many many years ago and they had a seating / viewing area where they bring the women in. As I recall, and maybe this isn't the same venue, but at this place they had different prices. One for the locals, and one for foreigners as the taxi drivers would alert the staff / guards upon arriving about who they had with them. I am just pointing out what I observed over a decade ago at this venue if it's even the same one, as I find it hard to believe a local today is going to pay $ 500 USD, and am curious how you confirmed this is the going rate, and by whom, as this is just an insane amount of money, and God forbid what the conditions are, meaning what the "rules" are.
The Tall Man
01-24-21, 17:39
Surfer already said lockdown doesn't count.
Just think about it, if a girl is going to El Centro to charge 30 K and do it in a possibly dingy short time room. They could do the same in Gusto or nearby and it is almost guaranteed it will be a better, cleaner room and bed.
People tend to generalize a specific event like they saw a El Centro chica in Park LLeras, then generalize it. But the fact is that no one has ever mentioned seeing a Gusto chica by your definition in El Centro. These are two very different situations but generalization makes both situation the sameAgree, so many are lost thinking that these gustos putas are something special, so different and refined, I am sure that some are as I have met a few and banged a few but this was 4 years ago out of gustos, heck a few nights ago as I am leaving a no-tel motel down in centro in the reception area I see a tall young flaca Vennie all dolled up, yes I fucked her at this motel a few weeks back, a good fuck nothing special but she is beautiful, so she and her two other flaca amiga are waiting for their taxi from centro to take them of well Park Lleras and gustos.
I paid her 50 mil for an hour and a half a few weeks back and she is breaking into the park Lleras scene and gustos.
I saw her last night as I took a new Vennie up the same motel and I want to ask how she and her friends fared in gustos.
It is all about timing, I recall a few years ago I saw a beauty, a real beauty paisa, stumbling through botero and made a bee line to her, well she is on her way to gutos and just needed to make a quick 50 mil for taxi money and entrance fee into the club. Me being a good person obliged as I took her to a near by hotel and had her earn the 50 mil on her knees.
Much love and respect to all.
The Tall Man.
Found another Ayenda Hotel #1219 in the Avenida 70 area. I would stay there. Most Ayenda Hotels are numbered which is NOT part of their address, which is confusing at first. I took Soft Swirl on a long walk to try and get some of the fat off of her ass and we walked right by this Hotel.
The reason it was not on my radar before is because it is too far off Avenida 70, about 4-5 short blocks on the opposite end of the Estadio Metro Station. BUT it is close too the largest shopping mall in the area UniCentral, a 5 minute walk from this hotel. You would still have no problem exploring Avenida 70 from here. Remember, taxis are super cheap.
I don't normally think of the mongering lifestyle as heavily into retail, but one thing for sure, chicas dig a stroll thru the mall and I will leave it at that.
The third foto shows the walking and bicycle path directly in front of the hotel that leads you to the mall. The hotel is in nice neighborhood that turns residential just a block in the opposite direction of the mall. I went on line and found a single occupancy rate of $17 per night with a free breakfast.I know just where that is. It's closer to go to the Sur Americana metro station than Estadio from there, but it's only a short walk from the south end of La 70. It's a much quieter area too.
There are some good little places for lunch nearby as well.
Maybe you're looking at it from the wrong direction.
I can see a girl bringing her cousin or friend who works El Centro to Parque Lleras for the night.Yes indeed, there is one helluva a grapevine with these girls about how and where to snag guys in other venues where they can make more money.
RudeBwoy100
01-24-21, 20:17
Saturday night.
It was pretty crowded but today they closed at 11. The night before on a Friday they closed at 230 am.
The way I understand it is they have a deal worked out with the cops.
If you take one of their taxis back it shouldn't be a problem.
As far as the talent, well I've been to Colombia so many times it's takes a special girl to catch my eye. And needless to say she wasn't there this night. But lots of eye candy for all different tastes.
Good vibes nonetheless.
So far my trip is filled with brand new fb girls I've been banging.
The 2 prettiest faces I've banged ever in medellin were on this trip back to back.
Absolutely angelic pretty faces. The only downside they are on the flaca side and one is really skinny that I won't repeat. The other one I might.
Will not name names cause I met them off Instagram and don't know if they want their info plastered onto this site.
But so far so good and for the fb girls I've paid an average of 200 plus taxi so 250 average.
The one Instagram girl with 400 k followers was 500 for 3 hours and all the dirty stuff I wanted.
The other pretty face 200 with taxi 250, comes in with an iPhone 12 and I ask her how much does that cost here she says idk it was a gift!! Lmao. Wtf are you guys doing?? I just busted one down her throat and yet some moron thinks shes being faithful to him?? Hilarious.
I'm trying to get into this exclusive list of local soap opera stars and tv personalities that are exclusively catered to the high end.
If I make progress I'll report. But the going rate is 500 usd and up with conditions.
I'm sure many on this forum will have something to say but bring it on idc at all. I got another 7 weeks and having the time of my life.When you land the Colombian squirting queen https://www.instagram.com/tatiana_jasbon/?hl=en let us know what was the cost my brother.
It is all about timing, I recall a few years ago I saw a beauty, a real beauty paisa, stumbling through botero and made a bee line to her, well she is on her way to gutos and just needed to make a quick 50 mil for taxi money and entrance fee into the club. Me being a good person obliged as I took her to a near by hotel and had her earn the 50 mil on her knees.
Much love and respect to all.
The Tall Man.Your a compassionate person, who unselfishly helps others, especially hookers in need who get on their knees for you.
And the beauty you snagged probably made more money for the time she spent with you in terms of minutes, than the time it would of taken her to travel to Gustos, snag a guy, travel to his place, do the deed, and return.
When you land the Colombian squirting queen https://www.instagram.com/tatiana_jasbon/?hl=en let us know what was the cost my brother.Is she even in Colombia?
Good report.
How do you find the girls on Facebook or Instagram?You RTFF. This question is asked and answered twice a month. I just answered it last week. I'm always happy to help guys out, but you should do a bit of homework.
Is Isla located way up in the hills of Poblado, I think above Tesoro, on a residential street versus a street with a bunch of high rise apartments? If so, I think I was there many many years ago and they had a seating / viewing area where they bring the women in. As I recall, and maybe this isn't the same venue, but at this place they had different prices. One for the locals, and one for foreigners as the taxi drivers would alert the staff / guards upon arriving about who they had with them. I am just pointing out what I observed over a decade ago at this venue if it's even the same one, as I find it hard to believe a local today is going to pay $ 500 USD, and am curious how you confirmed this is the going rate, and by whom, as this is just an insane amount of money, and God forbid what the conditions are, meaning what the "rules" are.La Isla is up in the hills, but it's just a strip club. Nice place, comfortable seating. I assume you're thinking about Loutron.
As for the $500, he's talking about something completely different there.
This is of course subject to change depending on new developments:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-new-covid-19-testing-rules-for-travel-to-the-u-s-what-they-mean-for-you-11610566341?st=01cgi76eq9jbdju&twopenpaywall
I know just where that is. It's closer to go to the Sur Americana metro station than Estadio from there, but it's only a short walk from the south end of La 70. It's a much quieter area too.
There are some good little places for lunch nearby as well.SurAmerica would be the station for that hotel, not Estadio. Didn't quite have my bearings to make that call, thanks.
Best pizza I have found in Medellin is in the strip mall between this hotel and the Mall, not the pizza joint on the sidewalk but the one back in the mini-plaza. Been closed every time I went by so far.
Slazenger1
01-25-21, 00:04
No kidding. A "Gusto chica" is a pretty nebulous concept. There's a hell of a lot of chicas who have gone in once or twice to try their luck.I'm new here, so dumb question. What is a "gusto chica"? What is a "gusto" anything? I'm lost. Ha! I actually live in Medellin part of the year, although I do very little mongering, so I'm not up on the terminology.
LivingFossil
01-25-21, 00:07
If either or both of you two fat Gringo living fossils who were sitting at an outside table at Provocacacion Charcuteria yesterday are here, Yeah that was me who threw back two bottles of Club Colombia beer at the same time with one hand with the bottoms of the bottles pointed toward the sky, without spilling a drop. My girlfriend thought you were both creepy, jajajajajajajaaaaa. Keep dreamin' but not in a thousand years.I'm not in Colombia yet if you are referring to me, LOL.
I'm getting ready to go to MDE in a few weeks, I'm very excited.
Testing requirements in and out don't dissuade me. Quarantine upon arrival is not enforceable.
I'm been reading a lot here and it seems like Gustos girls are the most expensive, then Lleras / Casas / FB, then Centro clubs and SW?
I think I'll be hanging out in El Centro the most when I arrive, I imagine girls there are hot enough.
I like girls 18-23 who with no plastics.
Is it hard to pull centro girls back to the Poblado area?
I know it doesn't make too much sense but I rather do them at my place where its clean and so they shower before and me after.
Also, has anyone had good threesomes with Centro girls?
Blessings.
Is Isla located way up in the hills of Poblado, I think above Tesoro, on a residential street versus a street with a bunch of high rise apartments? Surfer, It is on a remote non-residential hill area overlooking the city that is on the way to the airport. There are some open air restaurants near by due to the view, I guess.
Sang talked about three different topics in his port, La Isla, FB or IG girls, and $local personalities that starts at $500.
Good report.
How do you find the girls on Facebook or Instagram?
You RTFF. This question is asked and answered twice a month. I just answered it last week. I'm always happy to help guys out, but you should do a bit of homework.These posts from JB will give you some info.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2410175&viewfull=1#post2410175
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2522947&viewfull=1#post2522947
I'm new here, so dumb question. What is a "gusto chica"? What is a "gusto" anything? I'm lost. Ha! I actually live in Medellin part of the year, although I do very little mongering, so I'm not up on the terminology.Gusto is a western style bar, club. The location, ambience and music are pretty good so it attracts many gringo visitors. Gusto chicas refers to the prostitutes inside Gusto that charge high price for sex.
Well, things did not go as planned which is why I try to avoid making plans whenever possible. I am not sure if Cat Girl is ghosting me but she is acting like she doesn't want to see me. I guesstimate 50% she wants to take the money I have recently deposited in her bank account and cut and run; 50% she is scared at the prospect of hooking up with a monger, getting used up, and abandoned. If anyone in the world would justifiably have abandonment issues, it is my beloved Cat Girl. I would never do that to her.
Anywho, I am not tempted to write a diatribe. Haters always want to point to the money trail. The cash I have put into this relationship so far is not a drop of water in the bucket, it's water vapor. Once I hit "send" on the Western Union Web site, I don't notice it's gone. If it were not for Cat Girl, I probably never would have discovered Medellin and my eyes would never have been opened like this. My ROI is beyond calculation.
If want to know what it feels like to have Cat Girl moving in, pretend her name is Lorelei and listen to that song by Styx.
My mongering has been steady since arriving in Medellin 15 days ago. A lot of that was a "last hurrah" in anticipation of moving in with Cat Girl. BUT as my life generally goes, I fall into pig shit and come out smelling like a rose. What is the fucking downside if Cat Girl ghosts me? I'm in Medellin. If I am going to get stuck somewhere, let it be Medellin. There are girls in my line up who will be thrilled if Cat Girl is out of the picture, and they will want to show it. My options look great to me. But, I want Cat Girl. I really DO love her.
I gave her three days to make up her mind. My gut tells me she is scared. She is also the anchor person in her family, the only one who has ever shown any sense of responsibility, and I think there is pressure from that side to not leave.
I fell in love with Cat Girl before I ever set foot in Medellin when I met her for one day over a year ago. She told me from the beginning that her biggest fear was once I came here, I would become the proverbial "kid in a candy store. " I guess I did, at that. And I think she takes it harder than I realized.
The COVID shite that is going on all around us and my fun factor are a non sequitur, but it is weird. The way they can turn this country on and off with quarantine and lockdown has to be seen to be believed. I don't think you could ever pull it off in the USA like here, due to our individual freedoms.
Right now, I am going into Reassess Mode and figure out my next move, which could be change nothing, jajajajaa.
Recent Fotos.
GI Jane with her hand over her face is not trying to hide, she is reacting to female professional wrestling on TV.
Yeah, TM, I only had two women in Medellin during Covid crisis and I gave them very little but I apologize for anything I did in upsetting the market there.You didn't do anything wrong to upset anything. One person can't change the prepago industry.
I have sent help to my favorita and another one that I'm close with. I don't expect anything back, and when I get there I'm prepared to pay for her time when they're with me. I sent it because I know how much they struggle, even though neither complained to me. They both have real jobs. I never help people expecting anything in return, I think that defeats the whole purpose of helping. If they offer me freebies, I will accept with appreciation, and a bit of surprise to be honest.
I'm new here, so dumb question. What is a "gusto chica"? What is a "gusto" anything? I'm lost. Ha! I actually live in Medellin part of the year, although I do very little mongering, so I'm not up on the terminology.Gusto is a night club in Parque Lleras, where working girls hang out. The girls in Gusto generally ask for at least 400 k for a date.
I don't know if the waitresses are still working there. I'll be there this weekend.
But a while back I had a VIP area. When it was time to pay the bill the waitress brought the bill along with the credit card machine.
I saw her specifically go through all the motions and saw that my transaction was approved. However no receipt came out.
She says the machine wasn't working properly. Came back this time with another machine charged it again and this time the receipt came out. So obviously she brought the machine without paper on purpose.
Lucky for me my closest friend in medellin was a bouncer there at the time. When I told him what happened the management apologized and gave me cash the next day.
Come to find out a few girls working there, 2 were venues were doing this regularly.
My friend told me they double charged so many guys and they wouldn't know for weeks or even a month.
I get alerts on all my ccs if there's a charge over 50 $ immediately.
I don't think the owners or management was in on it since I know at least 2 girls got fired from there.
Just a heads up. And those waitresses are always trying to upcharge. If you get VIP make sure of every detail before ordering.
I'm not in Colombia yet if you are referring to me, LOL.
I'm getting ready to go to MDE in a few weeks, I'm very excited.
Testing requirements in and out don't dissuade me. Quarantine upon arrival is not enforceable.
I'm been reading a lot here and it seems like Gustos girls are the most expensive, then Lleras / Casas / FB, then Centro clubs and SW?
I think I'll be hanging out in El Centro the most when I arrive, I imagine girls there are hot enough.
I like girls 18-23 who with no plastics..If you meet the testing requirement for entry no quarantine is required. As for whether or not the quarantine is enforceable, it doesn't need to be. If you're supposed to be in quarantine and for any reason the police decide to stop you, something they have been known to do, and besides asking to see your passport they ask for your test results, at the very least you're going to pay a significant fine and undergo enforced quarantine. At the end of the quarantine your best outcome is they take you to the airport and remind you that you're not welcome back for an extended period of time.
Of course chances are nobody asks anything, but the penalties for not adhering to the quarantine, if required, begin at about double the cost of getting a PCR test and they go way up. Either get the test, do the quarantine or stay home.
El Centro, with the exception of the strip clubs, is a daytime endeavor. Most of the girls there are not likely to go to Poblado, especially with an unknown person. They're for short time entertainment, at least until you get to know them. Part of the problem is an issue of trust. Most won't trust you enough to leave their area for a minimum of 2 hours, with traffic, plus the risk of getting stiffed and having no money to get back.
The odds of getting a good threesome with 2 random, unknown El Centro girls are slightly better than me riding a horse to win the Kentucky Derby. In Colombia, most threesomes end up being a "trio", which is something completely different.
The details vary, but basically, you have sex with one girl while the other plays with her phone, watches TV, twiddles with her hair or goes through your pockets. Then, they switch positions.
In my experience, the key to a good threesome is having a lead girl who is an excellent performer and who you have a good connection with. Then it's just a matter of explaining what you expect and telling her to find a girl. Otherwise, you're probably going to end up with a trio.
If you want to stick with El Centro girls and bring them to your place, you should stay in El Centro. If your only issue is a clean place where you can both shower, take the girls to the Premium Plaza hotel. It's located between the Veracruz church and the Museum, easy to find and convenient.
If you want to take girls back to your place in Poblado, you have several options.
1. Session with girls in El Centro, get their numbers and set up another date with them.
2. Use the online ad services like Mileroticos, skokka and photoprepagos.
3. Use online meeting sites like Tinder and Seeking Arrangements.
4. Pick up girls in Parque Lleras, Gusto, or in the other Parque Lleras clubs. This is a nighttime only activity.
5. Use Facebook.
If you're experienced with dealing with street girls, use the Premium Plaza hotel and go that route, or use option 1.
If you would rather just send a message, make a deal and have a girl show up, use option 2.
If you want to spend a bit of time selecting and connecting with girls, and are willing to pay a subscription fee, use option 3.
If you like hitting the clubs, or prefer to find girls at night use option 4.
If you think you'll be a regular visitor to Medellin and want to devote a bit of effort, use option 5.
Each way has advantages and drawbacks.
And if you ever hear that a horse in the Derby is being ridden by a 6'4", 245#, 59 year old, rookie jockey, bet on him, because if I win a $5 bet will probably make you a billionaire.
You had better be young and handsome. They're not colombianas. and please don't say "Meddy"I'll call it whatever I feel like calling it, thanks. Just an abbreviation, don't get your panties in a wad. I've lived in Medellin since 2017 and have been visiting Colombia since 2007. Don't need advice on how to get along here. What I am looking for is info on hostels with girls with loose morals and inhibitions. Why? Because quite some time ago, I read on a forum (not sure if it was this one or another one), that there was a particular Hostel here Valle de Aburra where hot foreign girls are seemingly more prone to hooking up in the hostel.
I never thought I'd say this, but after living here for a few years and banging hot 19-25 yr olds everyday, I would like to mix it up a bit. I have zero attraction for the women in the US when I go back and visit. Lots of Euro tourists come out here for various reasons.
These posts from JB will give you some info.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2410175&viewfull=1#post2410175/ (https://bigasspics.me/)
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2522947&viewfull=1#post2522947/Thank you so much.
This information is useful for me too.
I'll be there this weekend.Tell SJobs we are waiting for his reports if you run into him.
My friend told me they double charged so many guys and they wouldn't know for weeks or even a month.Does the waitress took the equivalent of cash out after the double charge? Is that how this scam works?
Thanks! At the moment it is kinda hard to RTF perfectly in the thread as the activity here is so high, you have to look through sooo much covid and Gusto posts to find the good stuff.
These posts from JB will give you some info.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2410175&viewfull=1#post2410175
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2522947&viewfull=1#post2522947
Mr Enternational
01-25-21, 15:15
I don't know if the waitresses are still working there. I'll be there this weekend.
But a while back I had a VIP area. When it was time to pay the bill the waitress brought the bill along with the credit card machine.
I saw her specifically go through all the motions and saw that my transaction was approved. However no receipt came out.
She says the machine wasn't working properly. Came back this time with another machine charged it again and this time the receipt came out. So obviously she brought the machine without paper on purpose.
Lucky for me my closest friend in medellin was a bouncer there at the time. When I told him what happened the management apologized and gave me cash the next day.
Come to find out a few girls working there, 2 were venues were doing this regularly.
My friend told me they double charged so many guys and they wouldn't know for weeks or even a month.
I get alerts on all my ccs if there's a charge over 50 $ immediately.
I don't think the owners or management was in on it since I know at least 2 girls got fired from there.
Just a heads up. And those waitresses are always trying to upcharge. If you get VIP make sure of every detail before ordering.I do not think that is a scam at all. The exact same thing happened to me in October at my mechanic. But he caught it after I got into my car and ran after me to have me come back in and do the charge back. I also tried to rent a car on expedia in December and it did not go through. I tried again and it did not go through. Both charges appeared on my card. Was the rental car company trying to scam me through expedia? I called expedia and it got fixed. Shit happens with machines. It is not always nefarious.
Seriously how is someone not going to know for weeks or months that they have been charged twice? Do people not monitor their accounts? Do people randomly go months back and try to remember purchases they made? You could look at your account immediately after and see 2 charges pending for the same amount at the same place. I am a cheap charlie with these chicks, but if I had alerts on my credit cards for anything over $50, that shit would never stop ringing.
And like Nounce said, how is she going to get the money? It would have been deposited to the club. So if there was some type of scam, the owner would have had to be in on it. Not only that, but he would have also had to pay taxes on it since card charges are documented. So unless he fired the at least 2 girls for not doing the scam correctly, then that was not the reason they got fired. How are you closest friends with all these people and know all these goings-ons, and still get pegged as a mark? Makes no sense to me.
Black Page
01-25-21, 17:34
She says the machine wasn't working properly. Came back this time with another machine charged it again and this time the receipt came out. So obviously she brought the machine without paper on purpose.
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My friend told me they double charged so many guys and they wouldn't know for weeks or even a month.The double charge is the easiest charge to cancel on a credit card. They even do not ask you to provide an evidence. Any decent bank, once alerted, cancels the second charge as an obvious mistake (not necessarily a fraud). It happened to me more than once, and it was a simple mistake.
There has been a lot of discussion about this. I thought I would add my personal experience. Consider it my 2 cents.
Most of us agree that the CO government rules are beyond stupid and not based on any science but is what it is. This forum is not about debating that.
I have make 4 trips to MDE since October and they had some form of lockdown when I was there. I do a PCR test when I go in so there is no quarantine for me. I have had almost no issues finding dates. Girls don't care. I mainly use FB and rarely casas like Energy with friends. Of course if you are depending on clubs exclusively, it will have some impact but overall, I would not discourage anyone from going due to restrictions.
The waitress keeps money at the end of the night and turns in credit card slips.
I understand what you're saying when it's an honest mistake. But this is not so. Just giving a heads up.
This other gringo I know had this happen to him 3 x.
They are 2 separate transactions with 2 separate transaction numbers.
At least 2 of the vennie waitresses were fired.
Only reason I posted this is because I am going to go there this weekend and it's been so long LOL. But this thought crossed my mind.
The double charge is the easiest charge to cancel on a credit card. They even do not ask you to provide an evidence. Any decent bank, once alerted, cancels the second charge as an obvious mistake (not necessarily a fraud). It happened to me more than once, and it was a simple mistake.Yes this is quite easy. And tbh I can cancel both if I really wanted to be a dick LOL.
My Amex has a no questions asked policy.
I'll call it whatever I feel like calling it, thanks. Just an abbreviation, don't get your panties in a wad. I've lived in Medellin since 2017 and have been visiting Colombia since 2007. Don't need advice on how to get along here. What I am looking for is info on hostels with girls with loose morals and inhibitions. Why? Because quite some time ago, I read on a forum (not sure if it was this one or another one), that there was a particular Hostel here Valle de Aburra where hot foreign girls are seemingly more prone to hooking up in the hostel.
I never thought I'd say this, but after living here for a few years and banging hot 19-25 yr olds everyday, I would like to mix it up a bit. I have zero attraction for the women in the US when I go back and visit. Lots of Euro tourists come out here for various reasons.If someone says "Meddy" to me, my first instinct will be to slap them in the face
Deal with it.
If you meet the testing requirement for entry no quarantine is required. As for whether or not the quarantine is enforceable, it doesn't need to be. If you're supposed to be in quarantine and for any reason the police decide to stop you, something they have been known to do, and besides asking to see your passport they ask for your test results, at the very least you're going to pay a significant fine and undergo enforced quarantine. At the end of the quarantine your best outcome is they take you to the airport and remind you that you're not welcome back for an extended period of time.
Of course chances are nobody asks anything, but the penalties for not adhering to the quarantine, if required, begin at about double the cost of getting a PCR test and they go way up. Either get the test, do the quarantine or stay home.
El Centro, with the exception of the strip clubs, is a daytime endeavor. Most of the girls there are not likely to go to Poblado, especially with an unknown person. They're for short time entertainment, at least until you get to know them. Part of the problem is an issue of trust. Most won't trust you enough to leave their area for a minimum of 2 hours, with traffic, plus the risk of getting stiffed and having no money to get back.
The odds of getting a good threesome with 2 random, unknown El Centro girls are slightly better than me riding a horse to win the Kentucky Derby. In Colombia, most threesomes end up being a "trio", which is something completely different.
Th.Good sound advice as usual, and I have a couple of comments. In regards to a quarantine, I have a return date to MDE the later part of next month and am concerned that things may be different then given that other Countries are now starting to shut down access along with instigating quarantines with these new COVID strains.
Will see what the USA actually comes up with in regards to this ever evolving situation, and if Colombia instigates an actual quarantine in the near future, I am reluctant to return, and anyone thinking that they will easily evade being in quarantine, and not being caught as you have mentioned, could be in for a big surprise.
In regards to your recommendations for this poster as far as El Centro Chicas and trios. Well this assumes this poster has good Spanish speaking skills, and will be able to navigate the scene there. And I don't mean going from one place to another, but all the other things in dealing with the scene in El Centro. Very few posters on this board have ever taken to the place, let alone like it, and most shun it, so the other alternatives should be helpful if El Centro doesn't work for him.
And finally, in regards to a 245 pound jockey at 6'-4" wining the derby, well most jockies weigh around 115 pounds, so that would be like a snowballs chance in hell winning the race, and not a $ 5 wager I would make.
Thank you so much.
This information is useful for me too.
Thanks! At the moment it is kinda hard to RTF perfectly in the thread as the activity here is so high, you have to look through sooo much covid and Gusto posts to find the good stuff.You guys should thank JB who is the author took the time to write these posts!
There has been a lot of discussion about this. I thought I would add my personal experience. Consider it my 2 cents.
Most of us agree that the CO government rules are beyond stupid and not based on any science but is what it is. This forum is not about debating that.
I have make 4 trips to MDE since October and they had some form of lockdown when I was there. I do a PCR test when I go in so there is no quarantine for me. I have had almost no issues finding dates. Girls don't care. I mainly use FB and rarely casas like Energy with friends. Of course if you are depending on clubs exclusively, it will have some impact but overall, I would not discourage anyone from going due to restrictions.The curfews and weekend lockdowns are all very doable, however if the CO government in the future instigates quarantines for new arrivals, besides the testing requirement, this will be very discouraging as far as I am concerned.
Mr Enternational
01-25-21, 19:51
It seems a Davivienda ATM ripped me off on December 4. I guess I had forgotten about it because the money was just put back into my account today January 25; and there is an extra $2.48.
It seems a Davivienda ATM ripped me off on December 4. I guess I had forgotten about it because the money was just put back into my account today January 25; and there is an extra $2.48.My bank does that, within limits, I think it's five foreign transactions per month. Once a month they credit my account.
Thank you jb.
You guys should thank JB who is the author took the time to write these posts!
I do not think that is a scam at all. The exact same thing happened to me in October at my mechanic. But he caught it after I got into my car and ran after me to have me come back in and do the charge back. I also tried to rent a car on expedia in December and it did not go through. I tried again and it did not go through. Both charges appeared on my card. Was the rental car company trying to scam me through expedia? I called expedia and it got fixed. Shit happens with machines. It is not always nefarious.
Seriously how is someone not going to know for weeks or months that they have been charged twice? Do people not monitor their accounts? Do people randomly go months back and try to remember purchases they made? You could look at your account immediately after and see 2 charges pending for the same amount at the same place. I am a cheap charlie with these chicks, but if I had alerts on my credit cards for anything over $50, that shit would never stop ringing.
And like Nounce said, how is she going to get the money? It would have been deposited to the club. So if there was some type of scam, the owner would have had to be in on it. Not only that, but he would have also had to pay taxes on it since card charges are documented. So unless he fired the at least 2 girls for not doing the scam correctly, then that was not the reason they got fired. How are you closest friends with all these people and know all these goings-ons, and still get pegged as a mark? Makes no sense to me.You would be surprised, but there are plenty of people who pay little attention to those things, especially when they are in party mode. They only notice something is wrong when a check bounces or a card gets declined. I speak from being one of those guys in the past.
I was contracted to a guy and had set up for only a certain amount of money to be sent to my account each month. Just enough to pay all the bills. The rest was supposed to sit with him, until I needed it. Yes I know that money should have been going into some type of investment, but I was putting in over 100 hours weekly and only spending about 6 days a year at home, not all in one stretch. I kept a loose idea of how much money I was owed.
At a time when I figured to have $16 k owed me, I asked for $10 k. I was finally taking a week off and wanted to buy some things for the house. Boss tells me I owe him $5 k, but he'll advance me $2 k if I want. It took me 4 hours of going through everything to find $19 k in errors. Double charges, unpaid earnings and just simple math errors. I talked to other drivers who had contracted with him and discovered it was a common problem.
I still figure he ripped me off for several thousand, but that would have required a lot more work to prove.
There are plenty of people out there, especially when dealing with hard partying guys, who will pad a bill or double charge. If you get caught, it was an honest mistake, otherwise you pocket the money.
I don't know how waitresses at Gusto are paid, but if they get paid based on how much they sell, there's an incentive. If the tip is on the card, there's an incentive.
There's another angle to consider, although it doesn't appear to be the case. If someone brings in a card reader that's linked to another merchant account, or that's just a card skimmer. They could get you either way.
Personally, the only cards I use in Colombia are my debit cards at ATMs. Everything else is a cash transaction.
If someone says "Meddy" to me, my first instinct will be to slap them in the face
Deal with it.You might want to work on your instincts.
It's unlikely anyone visiting Medellin is going to call it "Meddy", unless they have a difficult time pronouncing the double ell sound, which is pronounced different in different Spanish speaking countries. I ran into a similar issue my first visit to Bogota. The girl was talking about a guy I know of named Xavier. I pronounce that Havier, but she kept saying "Chavi. " Nobody did any slapping.
My ex-roommate used to pronounce the "ed" at the end of English words, such as "work-ed", again, slapping was not required.
If I was getting bored of the working girl scene, I'd start moving into the non-pro action. Hit the estrato 4 barrios where gringos don't go. Visit restaurants, bars and stores, strike up some conversations and show some patience. I've seen enough to know that there are options available.
If it's just a desire to bang hostel patrons, take up backpacking. It's a cheap way to see the country and you get to meet the girls too. Start in Medellin and let the people you meet guide you to the next destination. If you're just a guy trying to hook up, you're going to have a lot of younger competition. If you're a guy wanting to find the perfect hot springs to watch a meteor shower in, you're going to get a lot more interest.
Nil Admirari
01-25-21, 21:17
If you meet the testing requirement for entry no quarantine is required. I have a question whose answer hopefully should prove of interest to increasing numbers of BMs who, like me, will have shortly received the magical 2 shot vaccination and plan ASAP thereafter to hop on a plane back to Medellin, El Ciudad de Eterna Primavera (and, more importantly, de Eterna Panocha as well). THE QUESTION. Has anyone seen anything official as to whether Colombian immigration will accept some certified Proof of Vaccination in lieu of the required PCR test? And ditto for anyone entering (returning) to the USofA.
I hope that this post doesn't prompt a deserved RTFF riposte from JjBee or others. I do recall a week or so back someone on this thread pondering whether the vaccination document that he had received was formal enough (e. G. It lacked official letterhead) to pass muster with immigration officers. The document I will receive here in New Jersey is an index-sized card that, in the upper corner, does have the official logos of the US Department of Health and Human Services and of the Center for Communicable Diseases (CDC) --so perhaps that is the standard certification document to be used throughout the US. It also has the dates of each of the two vaccinations, initialed by a representative from the organization operating the vaccination facility.
The curfews and weekend lockdowns are all very doable, however if the CO government in the future instigates quarantines for new arrivals, besides the testing requirement, this will be very discouraging as far as I am concerned.I agree. I have a trip booked in about 3 weeks. .. I will be vaccinated and have had a PCR test. There's no way that I'm going to quarantine under those circumstances. The only thing that gives me some comfort is that the UK strain has been known about for a long time and so far there have not been any quarantines imposed as far as I know for even travelers from the UK.
There has been a lot of discussion about this. I thought I would add my personal experience. Consider it my 2 cents.
Most of us agree that the CO government rules are beyond stupid and not based on any science but is what it is. This forum is not about debating that.
I have make 4 trips to MDE since October and they had some form of lockdown when I was there. I do a PCR test when I go in so there is no quarantine for me. I have had almost no issues finding dates. Girls don't care. I mainly use FB and rarely casas like Energy with friends. Of course if you are depending on clubs exclusively, it will have some impact but overall, I would not discourage anyone from going due to restrictions.After several years reading this forum, I would say that most of us are not qualified to make any type of scientific determination. However, what the Colombian government is doing is quite simple and as someone who has made so many trips to Colombia, you should be able to see it.
Although you can find a party any night in Medellin, the weekends are the time when everyone gets together for a good time. Figure at least 100 night clubs with an average of 200 people on a Saturday night. That alone could lead to 1,000 new infections in the following 10 days. Those 1,000 have families. 1,000 becomes 10,000, becomes 30,000. Now add in Friday night, and Sunday night if Monday is a holiday. Now start adding weekends.
So they put in a midnight curfew, which cuts it down a little bit. Then they do full lockdowns on some weekends, which cuts it down a bit more. On top of that, they require testing and-or quarantine. This discourages some people from traveling, the weekend curfews discourage more people from traveling. They know they can't stop the bleeding, but they are hoping to slow it down.
For the rest of your posts, that's a good assessment. Facebook is mostly unaffected and casas and strip clubs are options, but if you're going for the night life and hoping to pick up girls in the discos, your options are limited.
Thank you jb.I detected a note of sarcasm there. Actually you should thank Nounce because he went to the trouble to find and link the posts.
You're welcome.
Mr Enternational
01-25-21, 21:50
My bank does that, within limits, I think it's five foreign transactions per month. Once a month they credit my account.I had $147 taken out in December when I used the ATM but it did not give me money and $149 returned returned today. The ATM fee is not what I am talking about. Yes my bank returns those; unlimited as far as I know.
The curfews and weekend lockdowns are all very doable, however if the CO government in the future instigates quarantines for new arrivals, besides the testing requirement, this will be very discouraging as far as I am concerned.But Biden is trying to get 10 day quarantines upon return.
But Biden is trying to get 10 day quarantines upon return.Yes, it's problematic and being studied by his advisors with some recommendations from them I believe next week. It would be a boner killer for International travel, and begs the question how they would enforce it. Hopefully they will come up with an alternative to this and they are also looking at land crossings as well into the USA from Mexico / Canada.
So it's a bit better in medellin. This is a national curfew. Quintero is lobbying for no more curfew for medellin. So we'll see how that goes.
Mr Enternational
01-26-21, 02:00
Well, things did not go as planned which is why I try to avoid making plans whenever possible. I am not sure if Cat Girl is ghosting me but she is acting like she doesn't want to see me. I guesstimate 50% she wants to take the money I have recently deposited in her bank account and cut and run; 50% she is scared at the prospect of hooking up with a monger, getting used up, and abandoned.
I am totally lost. Do you know this chick or not? You were talking about buying pets together and shit and now it is she may be scared to hook up with you as if you have never met each other. And weren't you the one first ghosting her because you were too busy with other chicks?
That is why I do not notify anyone I am coming to town. I pop up and say I am here and if they want to get together we can get together. All that planning and anticipation and shit is for the birds. Just go with the flow once boots are on the ground.
I am totally lost. Do you know this chick or not? You were talking about buying pets together and shit and now it is she may be scared to hook up with you as if you have never met each other. And weren't you the one first ghosting her because you were too busy with other chicks?
That is why I do not notify anyone I am coming to town. I pop up and say I am here and if they want to get together we can get together. All that planning and anticipation and shit is for the birds. Just go with the flow once boots are on the ground.I know many like to plan ahead. I only plan one girl the day I'm about to board the plane.
But when you plan ahead more than 50% of the time it won't work out and meanwhile mostly it'll be your time that's wasted.
I am totally lost. Do you know this chick or not? You were talking about buying pets together and shit and now it is she may be scared to hook up with you as if you have never met each other. And weren't you the one first ghosting her because you were too busy with other chicks?
That is why I do not notify anyone I am coming to town. I pop up and say I am here and if they want to get together we can get together. All that planning and anticipation and shit is for the birds. Just go with the flow once boots are on the ground.Obviously You Haven't Read All My Posts. Don't expect you to pay close attention as some have, but the answers are all there. I have said at least twice I avoid planning whenever possible. And I admitted to being guilty of over planning in this instance. I didn't ghost her, I did as you suggested and came to town without telling her. Then when I told her I was here, she stood me up, twice. She's not even in Medellin. I have known her for almost two years, and spent about six months with her on my first trip here in 2019. I met her in a non -pro setting like I have talked about many times, by walking up to who I thought was a regular girl and try to make a connection. When I left here the first time it was supposed to be for three weeks, COVID hit, ten months later I am back. Before I left we were planning on living together. I never thought Cat Girl was a hooker, can't prove she wasn't.
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.I get that a lot, that I seem to have been here longer. This is my second trip. I met a mongerer who had been to Medellin at least ten times and divorced his wife so he could keep coming. He took me under his wing the first week I was here. After four weeks he told me there was nothing more he could teach me. Also, as I have said before, I have mongered on 6 continents, and gotten laid on all seven, which has to confer some experience. I maxed out my visa and extension first trip so I must've been here six months, right? I have time dyslexia. The system works. Girls 1-3 still fuck for "free" and I defined free before. With Cat Girl out of the picture, some of the other girls are vying for Numero Uno. I've also wrote about at least 3 girls to whom I gave money during the COVID crisis, who avoided me this trip, and I have listed a Disclaimer at least twice that I don't recommend anyone prepay. But my dollar cost averaging overall is below what the going rate is per girl.
I am honest to a fault, including admitting my mistakes if others might learn from them. I appreciate the feedback. Some of it I probably needed to hear. But I wouldn't change a thing in the last couple of years of my life. Any inconsistencies which by the way you did NOT find, are purely unintentional and probably drug related, jajajaja.
No regrets. Check that. Only regret is that I didn't start sooner. GI Jane on her way over now. Soft Swirl was here all day. Cat Girl as you mentioned Mr. E has been burning up my WhatsApp and telephone all day but I have not said a word. Also, so there is no misunderstanding, I am a sarcastic, attention whoring, asshole, jaja. Ostee Out.
I have a question whose answer hopefully should prove of interest to increasing numbers of BMs who, like me, will have shortly received the magical 2 shot vaccination and plan ASAP thereafter to hop on a plane back to Medellin, El Ciudad de Eterna Primavera (and, more importantly, de Eterna Panocha as well). THE QUESTION. Has anyone seen anything official as to whether Colombian immigration will accept some certified Proof of Vaccination in lieu of the required PCR test? And ditto for anyone entering (returning) to the USofA.
I hope that this post doesn't prompt a deserved RTFF riposte from JjBee or others. I do recall a week or so back someone on this thread pondering whether the vaccination document that he had received was formal enough (e. G. It lacked official letterhead) to pass muster with immigration officers. The document I will receive here in New Jersey is an index-sized card that, in the upper corner, does have the official logos of the US Department of Health and Human Services and of the Center for Communicable Diseases (CDC) --so perhaps that is the standard certification document to be used throughout the US. It also has the dates of each of the two vaccinations, initialed by a representative from the organization operating the vaccination facility.It's a good and valid question. To the best of my knowledge, Colombia has issued nothing official about accepting a vaccination card in lieu of a PCR test. My gut tells me they won't anytime in the immediate future.
I know many like to plan ahead. I only plan one girl the day I'm about to board the plane.
But when you plan ahead more than 50% of the time it won't work out and meanwhile mostly it'll be your time that's wasted.Unless the plan involves someone picking me up at the airport, I don't even go that far. There are a few girls I'll let know when I'm arriving, but that's it. I also tell them "if I have time."
I had one girl who was upset this last time because my illness kept me from seeing her. She told me she wasn't worried about getting sick and still wanted to come over.
Plan where you're going to stay, figure out what source you're going to use to get laid. Everything else is best left until you're checked in.
You might want to work on your instinctc.Yeah, I often ignore my first and even second instincts, to stay out of trouble. Legal entanglements in any foreign country can quickly become a nightmare. When folks post, "Don't carry more money than you can afford to get stolen," here it should really be "Carry enough money so you can pay off the Police." They will simply remove it from your wallet, you don't have to say anything. I recommend not less than 300 mil COP for a Gringo.
But I got an offer for you. I will pay all your expenses for a trip to Philadelphia as long as you go to the neighborhood I designate (nothing racial) and use the term "Philly" at least 20 times, jajajaja. You won't come out if you don't stop after they warn you. Meddy sounds stupid.
And no tattoos. Take my word for it, none.
Mr Enternational
01-26-21, 04:35
She's not even in Medellin. I never thought Cat Girl was a hooker, can't prove she wasn't.
I have listed a Disclaimer at least twice that I don't recommend anyone prepay. But my dollar cost averaging overall is below what the going rate is per girl.So where is she? She may not be a hooker, but she sure can pick a paymaster. Hookers are not the only ones accepting free money. If you send me some I will definitely accept it. One more example that sending money does not get you a damn thing except lighter pockets. All the chicks that have asked me to send money (pro, non-pro, whatever) I have always told them no. And guess what. The next time I see them we still fuck. Yeah yeah it is in the budget and all that. You have to practice saying no. The more you do it, the easier it gets. But if it makes you all warm and fuzzy inside just keep sending it. But don't expect anything from it except a warm and fuzzy feeling. I have enjoyed all of your reports and pictures though. You still had a great time and that is what counts. Like you said, no regrets.
GeneHickman
01-26-21, 04:41
So where is she? She may not be a hooker, but she sure can pick a paymaster. One more example that sending money does not get you a damn thing except lighter pockets. Yeah yeah it is in the budget and all that. You have to practice saying no. The more you do it, the easier it gets.Or you could test her and see, tell her you have a gift for her and she should come collect it.
Half these girls you think are not P4 P are exactly that.
If your spanish is bad, and you are an older gringo, then she kind of knows the terms of engagement.
When you use the reverse logic with them, like talk to them in a way like you assume they mess around, the language of denial tells you how they think.
So where is she?.Cartagena, at the Beach, on my dime, supposedly which another chica from the fotos but the chicos could simply be standing off stage left, jaja. Thanks for the compliments.
LivingFossil
01-26-21, 06:07
If you meet the testing requirement for entry no quarantine is required. As for whether or not the quarantine is enforceable, it doesn't need to be. If you're supposed to be in quarantine and for any reason the police decide to stop you, something they have been known to do, and besides asking to see your passport they ask for your test results, at the very least you're going to pay a significant fine and undergo enforced quarantine. At the end of the quarantine your best outcome is they take you to the airport and remind you that you're not welcome back for an extended period of time.
Of course chances are nobody asks anything, but the penalties for not adhering to the quarantine, if required, begin at about double the cost of getting a PCR test and they go way up. Either get the test, do the quarantine or stay home.
And if you ever hear that a horse in the Derby is being ridden by a 6'4", 245#, 59 year old, rookie jockey, bet on him, because if I win a $5 bet will probably make you a billionaire.I meant that the PCR testing to get in to Colombia is easy to get done and the new quarantine rules for when you are back in the USA are not enforceable, the hardest part will be getting a COVID test when I fly out of Cartagena but I will have a week do and have read its not hard. I will not be breaking any laws in Colombia!
I googled Premium Plaza hotel and could get any info. Does anyone know the price and and it is nice and clean enough that anyone would might consider sleeping there overnight or is it an hourly type place? I assume its girl friendly.
Seems like centro is cheaper and more fun. I like grimy places hehe, but Lleras maybe has girls that "appear hotter". 30 K verus 250 K. These girls can't be eight times hotter.
So where is she? She may not be a hooker, but she sure can pick a paymaster. Hookers are not the only ones accepting free money. If you send me some I will definitely accept it. One more example that sending money does not get you a damn thing except lighter pockets. All the chicks that have asked me to send money (pro, non-pro, whatever) I have always told them no. And guess what. The next time I see them we still fuck. Yeah yeah it is in the budget and all that. You have to practice saying no. The more you do it, the easier it gets. But if it makes you all warm and fuzzy inside just keep sending it. But don't expect anything from it except a warm and fuzzy feeling. I have enjoyed all of your reports and pictures though. You still had a great time and that is what counts. Like you said, no regrets.This was not about warm and fuzzies. And trust me I say No ten times more than Yes but I've seen mongerers who can't. You have to be consistent and not just deny the big shit. Whenever a chica tries to pull a fast one, and they always do, I say No. "Can I use your phone to call an Uber?" after I tipped for a taxi, Hell No. "Will you pay for my orthodontist visit as a tip?" Hell No. "Can I take the partial bag of Tussy home for free?" Sometimes, but this time Hell No, jaja.
When I left the country just before COVID, I told my GF that I would be back before the next rent check was due, in 3 weeks, permanently. We both were on the same page. Then COVID hit. Who here dreamed 10 months or however long it has been we'd still be dealing with this shite? I thought I was making a 2-3 month commitment at most when I started supporting Cat Girl in absentia at the beginning of this mess. She lost her job due to COVID. I never paid a peso to any girl after she left the room on 6 other continents before COVID.
Now, add to that, the money is less than pennies on the dollar to me. Unnoticeable and inconsequential except for the time it takes to hit the send button. I had to remind myself of the real value that is there to the receivers but I was happy to be in the position to do it. As far as how my sending money effects the mongering checks and balances or supply and demand or whatever you want to call it, I say none. Every man for himself in this game. By that I mean each man is left to his own devices. My devices have always been different, I am hard wired that way. I am honest to a fault and have never knowingly stabbed anyone in the back. Right now, I like where I am sitting and am open to all possibilities. I agree, as I said both times I did it, planning in this game is usually futile. The one comment that indirectly made me pause and think, was that a girl does not have to be selling sex to be pay for play. She can sell a dream, a fantasy, a lifestyle, whatever she thinks will pay.
Random Recent Gratuitous Sex Foto.
PacoEspanis
01-26-21, 12:53
These posts from JB will give you some info.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2410175&viewfull=1#post2410175
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2522947&viewfull=1#post2522947Thanks a lot.
In principle I dominate the language.
On Instagram topic.
How do you do to get the girls?
The ones with 400 k followers.
It's a good and valid question. To the best of my knowledge, Colombia has issued nothing official about accepting a vaccination card in lieu of a PCR test. My gut tells me they won't anytime in the immediate future.I guess this is going to be one of those questions that will be asked repeatedly. US does not allow it. It will be strange if Colombia allows it when they don't even have the vaccine for their own people.
As I understand it, vaccine does not mean one will not get infected. I think a vaccinated person will be similar to asymptomatic case. , then for some people vaccine does not work well.
The system works. Girls 1-3 still fuck for "free" and I defined free before. With Cat Girl out of the picture, some of the other girls are vying for Numero Uno. I've also wrote about at least 3 girls to whom I gave money during the COVID crisis, who avoided me this trip, If the system works, have you ever considered it may work even better to keep number one spot vacant?
These drugging networks are pretty sophisticated and run by criminal gangs. They go where the fish are biting, which can include El Pablado and lower level middle class areas. They especially want to find people carrying credit cards so they can run up charges or hit ATMs. There's plenty of articles around about this.
You're wrong about this one, but that's okay. We all are wrong sometimes, is how we learn. Wink.I don't know if there is a 'wrong' or 'right'. But from the research I've done over the last two days, it seems that yes, organized groups are targeting 'better' areas localized with more tourists. Although that doesn't make me feel the 'bad' areas are safer. Obviously the best method is to perfectly not let yourself be a target (cliche tourist / naive etc.).
I do worry about Scopolamine and how actually one can avoid the being drugged. My cards have a capped daily / weekly limit and pretty stringent fraud protection.
I'll be arriving and I think I'll be choosing an airbnb near centro with no doorman (the building / apartment looks nice). My concern here is, if I bring girls over I have never met, how risky is it to get drugged?
Even if they don't accept that it's good to have it. Both of vaccine and the car the card..... For the cim you can show the card.
Hehehehehe
I guess this is going to be one of those questions that will be asked repeatedly. US does not allow it. It will be strange if Colombia allows it when they don't even have the vaccine for their own people.
As I understand it, vaccine does not mean one will not get infected. I think a vaccinated person will be similar to asymptomatic case. , then for some people vaccine does not work well.
If the system works, have you ever considered it may work even better to keep number one spot vacant?I just got finished WhassApping La Gacella (before I read your post) who had a lock on Number Two and explained to her that there will not be any Number One for now. That is my plan. Would be natural for her to assume that she would slide into the Number One position, but she was surprisingly accepting of the situation.
Life just keeps getting better in Medellin. I blocked Cat Girl.
Thank you for being the First to suggest that there could be value to the system instead of reflexively discounting it. I am used to skepticism as I made a career if being an "out of the box" thinker, often with better results. I might be the only human in the universe for which the system is suitable, I am not trying to sell it to anyone or say it's a better way. This is not a contest. I can trash it tomorrow or lean on it another five years. One day at a time.
I guess this is going to be one of those questions that will be asked repeatedly. US does not allow it. It will be strange if Colombia allows it when they don't even have the vaccine for their own people.
As I understand it, vaccine does not mean one will not get infected. I think a vaccinated person will be similar to asymptomatic case. , then for some people vaccine does not work well.The groundwork for a vaccine passport system is well underway and is being assessed in the USA in terms of an international certification of vaccination that could be recognized by other nations requiring the shots. It would be similar to the yellow fever certificate, but instead of a yellow booklet, something digital. However at this point little is known whether vaccinated people can be carriers and infect others, albeit have no symptoms as you mention. Regardless, ahead of more scientific data, some Countries are now opening up their borders to those who can prove they have been vaccinated, and some cruise lines are requiring passengers to be vaccinated.
Perhaps Colombia if it instigates a quarantine in the future, will allow those who have been vaccinated not to be quarantined, however how they would verify this is unknown for the time being as any one could fabricate the vaccination cards being issued in the USA. I know that besides the cards being issued, some of those who have been vaccinated will have a digital record of the vaccinations they received. In Southern California they are using an APP in one of the Counties that has complete information about those who have been vaccinated, including the Lot #, date, time, the vaccinator. My guess is some type of registry may be established to verify someone's status as to whether they have been vaccinated, no different than proving your a resident somewhere. So in this case it might be someone submitting a form of ID, the card they were issued at the vaccination Site, and then somebody (Government) verifying thru the APP that was used by the vaccinating agency / County that this person showed up and received the shots / lots / vaccine shown on the card.
Just Incognito
01-26-21, 17:18
I guess this is going to be one of those questions that will be asked repeatedly. US does not allow it. It will be strange if Colombia allows it when they don't even have the vaccine for their own people.
As I understand it, vaccine does not mean one will not get infected. I think a vaccinated person will be similar to asymptomatic case. , then for some people vaccine does not work well.Even with the vaccine you will need proof of PCR test and in some cases, the antigen test.
This isn't that complicated: The vaccine means if you get the virus, it most probably won't mae you sick at all-more than likely, you will be asymptomatic. . but it doesn't mean you can't carry the virus and spread it. So, until enough people are vaccinated and isolated to stop the spread and burn out the virus, people will need to continue to mask up abd be tested for travel in order to stop spreading the virus. Not spreading the virus also helps limit viral mutations.
The PCR test is more accurate in a way, but it only reads if you had enough viral load I your system to show on the test -you can be infected up to 72 hours prior to the pcr test and still show negative--even though you would soon afterward test positive. This leaves a 6 day gap in testing results to travel time: 3 days before your tet and the 72 hours from test priot to flight.
In order to account for these 6 days a little bit, the antigen test exists. Its a rapid test with results in minutes. Generally not as accurate as pcr testing-but the trade is the results are more recent to the travel. Ideally, a rapid tet just prior to flying, 3 days quarantine upon arrival and another test to be free of quarantine to account for infection during travel would be the norm around the planet.
Even if they don't accept that it's good to have it. Both of vaccine and the car the card..... For the cim you can show the card.
HeheheheheSo your saying that if you show a Chica your vaccination card you can Come in Her Mouth.
I'll be carrying my card with me wherever I go as I guess it's like a permission slip, and maybe the back of the card should also say it's okay to swallow.
Elvis 2008
01-26-21, 17:26
As I understand it, vaccine does not mean one will not get infected. I think a vaccinated person will be similar to asymptomatic case. , then for some people vaccine does not work well.No, this is the moronic public health officials downplaying the vaccine. It is 95% per the studies that you will not get infected and if you do, it will be a mild case. Nounce, this is from your paper, the NYTimes:
Now a version of the mask story is repeating itself — this time involving the vaccines. Once again, the experts don't seem to trust the public to hear the full truth.
This issue is important and complex enough that I'm going to make today's newsletter a bit longer than usual. [Email address deleted by Admin]
'Ridiculously encouraging'.
Right now, public discussion of the vaccines is full of warnings about their limitations: They're not 100 percent effective. Even vaccinated people may be able to spread the virus. And people shouldn't change their behavior once they get their shots.
These warnings have a basis in truth, just as it's true that masks are imperfect. But the sum total of the warnings is misleading, as I heard from multiple doctors and epidemiologists last week.
"It's driving me a little bit crazy," Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown School of Public Health, told me.
"We're underselling the vaccine," Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Pennsylvania, said.
"It's going to save your life — that's where the emphasis has to be right now," Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine said.
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are "essentially 100 percent effective against serious disease," Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, said. "It's ridiculously encouraging. ".
The details.
Here's my best attempt at summarizing what we know:
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines — the only two approved in the USA — are among the best vaccines ever created, with effectiveness rates of about 95 percent after two doses. That's on par with the vaccines for chickenpox and measles. And a vaccine doesn't even need to be so effective to reduce cases sharply and crush a pandemic.
If anything, the 95 percent number understates the effectiveness, because it counts anyone who came down with a mild case of Covid-19 as a failure. But turning Covid into a typical flu — as the vaccines evidently did for most of the remaining 5 percent — is actually a success. Of the 32,000 people who received the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine in a research trial, do you want to guess how many contracted a severe Covid case? One.
Although no rigorous study has yet analyzed whether vaccinated people can spread the virus, it would be surprising if they did. "If there is an example of a vaccine in widespread clinical use that has this selective effect — prevents disease but not infection — I can't think of one!" Dr. Paul Sax of Harvard has written in The New England Journal of Medicine. (And, no, exclamation points are not common in medical journals.) On Twitter, Dr. Monica Gandhi of the University of California, San Francisco, argued: "Please be assured that YOU are safe after vaccine from what matters — disease and spreading. "
Seems like centro is cheaper and more fun. I like grimy places hehe, but Lleras maybe has girls that "appear hotter". 30 K verus 250 K. These girls can't be eight times hotter.You will get different numbers after you divide the price by the number of minutes.
I meant that the PCR testing to get in to Colombia is easy to get done and the new quarantine rules for when you are back in the USA are not enforceable, the hardest part will be getting a COVID test when I fly out of Cartagena but I will have a week do and have read its not hard. I will not be breaking any laws in Colombia!
I googled Premium Plaza hotel and could get any info. Does anyone know the price and and it is nice and clean enough that anyone would might consider sleeping there overnight or is it an hourly type place? I assume its girl friendly.
Seems like centro is cheaper and more fun. I like grimy places hehe, but Lleras maybe has girls that "appear hotter". 30 K verus 250 K. These girls can't be eight times hotter.Do a search on this thread for Premium Plaza, and the information your looking for regarding the Hotel will be found. Also, if you go back and read the previous reports there is lots of information regarding the Centro and LLeras venues.
I don't know how to more politely say to read the forum, and am surprised how magnimous another member was in providing you with a wealth of information to someone who had yet to take the time to read the forum.
Elvis 2008
01-26-21, 17:50
As I understand it, vaccine does not mean one will not get infected. I think a vaccinated person will be similar to asymptomatic case. , then for some people vaccine does not work well.I have never heard of an asymptomatic case of the cold before, and Corona is a cold virus. In fact, given that Corona causes blood clots so often, you can have literally any symptom with it. A person who tests positive for Corona and is without symptoms has a false positive test. One of the leaders of the WHO said pretty much there is no asymptomatic cases of Corona and got her head bit off and retracted the statement the following day. Asymptomatic Corona scares people, and scared people are willing to give more funding to health care agencies.
NYTimes again.
The costs of negativity.
Why are many experts conveying a more negative message?
Again, their motivations are mostly good. As academic researchers, they are instinctively cautious, prone to emphasizing any uncertainty. Many may also be nervous that vaccinated people will stop wearing masks and social distancing, which in turn could cause unvaccinated people to stop as well. If that happens, deaths would soar even higher.
End of quote.
Nounce, do you get that the public health officials have been lying? The thing that this article says is it is "mostly good" is bullshit! They are downplaying the vaccine because if people knew how good it was there would be a mad rush to get it, and there would be even more outrage in the government. On top of that, all these fucking pols hold up vaccine delivery so they can take pictures of themselves giving out the vaccine. There have been some great vaccine photo ops.
The NYT elevated these officials, these lying "scientists" as a means to discredit our former president. Once he was out of office, THEN the NYT started to tell the truth.
People like Fauci almost always fear monger as it is a way to get their attention and to increase their budgets.
Here is the latest idiocy from Fauci.
Could wearing two face masks at once during the pandemic provide more protection than just wearing one? According to White House advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci, "it likely does," he told NBC News' today on Monday.
Before it was no masks are needed and now it is two. What is tomorrow? Three?
Hello,
Traveling tomorrow to Medellin. I'm wondering if anyone has current info for how much they charge per guest at Charlee hotel?
SpiderRider
01-26-21, 18:38
I'll be arriving and I think I'll be choosing an airbnb near centro with no doorman (the building / apartment looks nice). My concern here is, if I bring girls over I have never met, how risky is it to get drugged?In that scenario? Substantial risk. Especially if you're using dating apps to meet them. Allowing them time to make a plan to exploit your foolishness.
Hello,
Traveling tomorrow to Medellin. I'm wondering if anyone has current info for how much they charge per guest at Charlee hotel?At the Charlee. Good luck with that.
Mr Enternational
01-26-21, 18:59
You will get different numbers after you divide the price by the number of minutes.Exactly the same thing that came to my mind when I read his statement. 30K will only get you 15 or 20 minutes with the downtown chick, whereas 250K or whatever will get you an hour or 2 with the Lleras chick. But if a guy has any sense he can tweak the system and do what PN does by offering the downtown chick double or triple the 30K and she will stay with him until the cows come home. But the Lleras chick will be bolting out of there when that hour or 2 is up, if she is not trying to do a runner as soon as you bust.
I'm loving it so much that I extended my stay here. I do have a lot of things to write about but I'm just going to add cliff notes now and go into more details later.
I now have around 2 non working girls which are easy to find around here. By non working I mean I don't discuss price or how long they will stay. The main one stays 2-3 days cooks cleans and fucks like a champion. No matter how long she stays she gets fed, watered, stuff bought for her kid and a $100,000 COP, no more no less. She's either happy with it or isn't but she likes visiting.
I could have more of these arrangements but San Peter is hampering my efforts as it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper, so much so I've moved out yesterday. On my next post I'll go into detail on this.
3 of us went to Centro one night as we usually did, one got seperated from us and got stabbed and mugged by 4 guys, not badly injured but traumatised and he went home. I was in centro alone last night. Walked from Avenida to Barra, I survived but I wouldn't go near botero alone.
Barra E, I don't get it. Cold atmosphere boring girls. Beer twice the price of other places.
Another amazing session in Avenida only 65 k plus 10 k propina, watching porn, naked girls on stage and another girl with her hand in my boxers, is that even allowed there?
Gave eros another chance, my god, 4 girls that looked absolutely miserable, like someone killed their whole families. I wanted to leave right away but thought it might get messy with my lack of Spanish. They were barking orders at me which I didn't understand. Took the best one there, terrible rushed mechanical session. I'll never go there again, not when you have new life and Zandaly.
I have a go to girl at Zandaly, wow she goes above and beyond, last time I extended my session there.
Can someone recommend any other casas apart from Energy?
It is 95% per the studies that you will not get infected and if you do You mean China's vaccine too?
3 of us went to Centro one night as we usually did, one got seperated from us and got stabbed and mugged by 4 guys, not badly injured but traumatised and he went home. I was in centro alone last night. Walked from Avenida to Barra, I survived but I wouldn't go near botero alone.Can you provide details on this as to specifically what time and where. And was this victim an obvious gringo? I ask because a lot of times members unknowingly let their guard down and when they least expect it they get jacked up. I hope this guy is okay.
Here's a kingston, Jamaica treat. Cost me $10 fake perfume and $7 one piece. From 7 pm to 7 am. Would have stayed longer. All natural 20 year old non pro. Can you find cheaper than Colombia. Hell yeah. Definitely find better bodies.
Gusto king cheers and out. For you tall man.
100%. With you. Good intentions. The same thing happened with HIV the intentionally scared heterosexuals when the virus was only affecting j drug abusers and gays in the United States.
Those of us who are mongering before and after are well aware of the effects of what happened and it was all made up. And intentionally so.
I have never heard of an asymptomatic case of the cold before, and Corona is a cold virus. In fact, given that Corona causes blood clots so often, you can have literally any symptom with it. A person who tests positive for Corona and is without symptoms has a false positive test. One of the leaders of the WHO said pretty much there is no asymptomatic cases of Corona and got her head bit off and retracted the statement the following day. Asymptomatic Corona scares people, and scared people are willing to give more funding to health care agencies.
NYTimes again.
The costs of negativity.
Why are many experts conveying a more negative message?
Again, their motivations are mostly good. As academic researchers, they are instinctively cautious, prone to emphasizing any uncertainty. Many may also be nervous that vaccinated people will stop wearing masks and social distancing, which in turn could cause unvaccinated people to stop as well. If that happens, deaths would soar even higher.
End of quote.
Nounce, do you get that the public health officials have been lying? The thing that this article says is it is "mostly good" is bullshit! They are downplaying the vaccine because if people knew how good it was there would be a mad rush to get it, and there would be even more outrage in the government. On top of that, all these fucking pols hold up vaccine delivery so they can take pictures of themselves giving out the vaccine. There have been some great vaccine photo ops.
The NYT elevated these officials, these lying "scientists" as a means to discredit our former president. Once he was out of office, THEN the NYT started to tell the truth.
People like Fauci almost always fear monger as it is a way to get their attention and to increase their budgets.
Here is the latest idiocy from Fauci.
Could wearing two face masks at once during the pandemic provide more protection than just wearing one? According to White House advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci, "it likely does," he told NBC News' today on Monday.
Before it was no masks are needed and now it is two. What is tomorrow? Three?
I could have more of these arrangements but San Peter is hampering my efforts as it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper, so much so I've moved out yesterday. On my next post I'll go into detail on this.
Has their visitor's policy changed? I thought San Peter was one of the few guest friendly apartment buildings.
ColombiaLover
01-26-21, 20:50
I wish these girls understood how sex that clean body is to some guys. That is why I dabble in non-pros. More likely to find someone without tats (or maybe a small one). Unless you are rooting around in the ghetto.
And no tattoos. Take my word for it, none.
Jamaican girls can be very sweet. The last woman I spent the night with was a Jamaican girl from Green island. Lovely girl quite thin total non-pro. Wouldn't even do oral. LOL.
Here's a kingston, Jamaica treat. Cost me $10 fake perfume and $7 one piece. From 7 pm to 7 am. Would have stayed longer. All natural 20 year old non pro. Can you find cheaper than Colombia. Hell yeah. Definitely find better bodies.
Gusto king cheers and out. For you tall man.
I'm loving it so much that I extended my stay here. I do have a lot of things to write about but I'm just going to add cliff notes now and go into more details later.
I now have around 2 non working girls which are easy to find around here. By non working I mean I don't discuss price or how long they will stay. The main one stays 2-3 days cooks cleans and fucks like a champion. No matter how long she stays she gets fed, watered, stuff bought for her kid and a $100,000 COP, no more no less. She's either happy with it or isn't but she likes visiting.
I could have more of these arrangements but San Peter is hampering my efforts as it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper, so much so I've moved out yesterday. On my next post I'll go into detail on this.
3 of us went to Centro one night as we usually did, one got seperated from us and got stabbed and mugged by 4 guys, not badly injured but traumatised and he went home. I was in centro alone last night. Walked from Avenida to Barra, I survived but I wouldn't go near botero alone.
Barra E, I don't get it. Cold atmosphere boring girls. Beer twice the price of other places.
Another amazing session in Avenida only 65 k plus 10 k propina, watching porn, naked girls on stage and another girl with her hand in my boxers, is that even allowed there?San Peter now stopping girls from coming in? Since when they start this, first time I'm hearing this, thanks for information, and yes to euros it's so hit or miss, most of times very rude to gringos.
Yeah, I often ignore my first and even second instincts, to stay out of trouble. Legal entanglements in any foreign country can quickly become a nightmare. When folks post, "Don't carry more money than you can afford to get stolen," here it should really be "Carry enough money so you can pay off the Police." They will simply remove it from your wallet, you don't have to say anything. I recommend not less than 300 mil COP for a Gringo.
But I got an offer for you. I will pay all your expenses for a trip to Philadelphia as long as you go to the neighborhood I designate (nothing racial) and use the term "Philly" at least 20 times, jajajaja. You won't come out if you don't stop after they warn you. Meddy sounds stupid.I like deals. I'll set up my 2 days off work, car rental and hotel, plus airfare, once you've sent the money. Call it $3000 in advance. I'll even video it for you.
Now, what self-respecting monger who couldn't teach you anything more taught you to walk around with your wallet? You don't need no wallet. Nobody is going to ask to see your high school prom photo and your social security card. You might as well carry a sign pointing to your money.
Left front pants pocket, phone. Right front pocket the majority of your money. Also ATM card if you're going to the ATM. Left rear pocket, hotel key with enough cash to get you back to your room. Right rear pocket all your small bills with a single 20 or 50 k wrapped around it.
Exactly the same thing that came to my mind when I read his statement. 30K will only get you 15 or 20 minutes with the downtown chick, whereas 250K or whatever will get you an hour or 2 with the Lleras chick. But if a guy has any sense he can tweak the system and do what PN does by offering the downtown chick double or triple the 30K and she will stay with him until the cows come home. But the Lleras chick will be bolting out of there when that hour or 2 is up, if she is not trying to do a runner as soon as you bust.That's always going to be a YMMV situation. On a good day a Lleras chick will still be snuggling up to me and talking long after the 2 hours is up.
BootyBandit84
01-26-21, 22:28
Has their visitor's policy changed? I thought San Peter was one of the few guest friendly apartment buildings.It is, I was there for 10 days a couple weeks ago. I had 2-3 girls a day visit me (even during the lock down) and had no problem with staff. Maybe its the staying for several days? Though I don't see why that would be an issue. I had several overnights and they never said anything to me. I'm interested in hearing what happened.
Nil Admirari
01-26-21, 23:08
I had several overnights and they never said anything to me. I'm interested in hearing what happened.I'm also curious to learn the details of Johnny O's lament about the San Peter gatekeepers, especially given my planned return there in a few weeks. When I stayed in the building for several months back in early 2020, I found the ladies at the front desk to be admirably Girl Friendly (courteous, not just permissive), albeit super strict about IDs. I had one Venezuelan amiga whom they wouldn't admit even though she had a very legit looking, photo Cedula issued to immigrants like her. I appealed to the manager who told me that this form of ID was too easily faked, and insisted that my chica should obtain another form of ID (I forget what it was called but one supposedly available to persons of her problematic status).
A couple of months ago, when I was contemplating a return to Medellin, I wrote the San Peter asking if their guest policy had changed due to the pandemic. They wrote back as follows: You can have as many guests as you want, but only one at a time. Everyone must have a valid id and enter and exit with a face mask. Maybe something has changed since then, but I'd be surprised.
It is, I was there for 10 days a couple weeks ago. I had 2-3 girls a day visit me (even during the lock down) and had no problem with staff. Maybe its the staying for several days? Though I don't see why that would be an issue. I had several overnights and they never said anything to me. I'm interested in hearing what happened.I stayed there Dec 7th to 31. No problem with girls visiting or staying overnight. Their policy has always been that all visitors, regardless of gender, need to present a valid unexpired ID for admission. Girls need to be over 18. Colombians need to present a cedula. Non Colombians, an unexpired passport. No other documents accepted. Documents need to be originals, no pictures, photocopies etc are accepted. This effectively rules or Venezuelan chicas. Other than that, they really don't care, as long as you keep the music down and not do any lewid acts in public areas. They will scan the ID into the system, and announce your guest with a phone call. Also, they will call you if your guest is leaving unaccompanied, and with extra bags, LOL. I gave some stuff to a friend, and they wouldn't let her leave before calling me.
The only change due to covid-19 is that, only one guest allowed at a time. So threesome's or more not possible till covid-19 protocols are lifted. They also check temperature when entering.
Can you provide details on this as to specifically what time and where. And was this victim an obvious gringo? I ask because a lot of times members unknowingly let their guard down and when they least expect it they get jacked up. I hope this guy is okay.Surfer as follows.
3 of us went out a few times at night. I kept thinking I don't feel safe. When I'm in Centro at night, I walk from A-be with purpose, I don't saunter. On the night in question we were out around 7 ish, dark. I picked up a girl, went back to San Peter, she got refused in the end. Later I get a knock on my door, it's K, he's asks if I have seen HappyShiva as he got split up from him. He then lifts up his top and shows blood coming from his abdomen and proceeds to tell me how his phone died and he got seperated from HS as he was talking to a girl, then got jumped on by 4 guys. This happened coming from the strip behind Veracruz, heading towards Victoria Taberna, behind the Antioquia museum where there is like a quiet stretch. Yes he looks like a very obvious gringo, Chinese decent. That's as much detail as I have.
Unless the plan involves someone picking me up at the airport, I don't even go that far. There are a few girls I'll let know when I'm arriving, but that's it. I also tell them "if I have time."
I had one girl who was upset this last time because my illness kept me from seeing her. She told me she wasn't worried about getting sick and still wanted to come over.
Plan where you're going to stay, figure out what source you're going to use to get laid. Everything else is best left until you're checked in.Good advise. The last time I returned after the quarantine, I wanted to get laid as soon as I checked into my room. Unfortunately, my flight arrives at midnight, and it was 1. 30 am by the time I got checked in. I did have food and drinks delivered to my room ahead of time. I had 3 chicas on standby, knowing that some will flake, but one of them came through. She showed up at 2 am, by the time I showered. She came and showered, and after the physical excersion, we eat and she left, and I passed out. Good times. I usually keep at least 2 girls on standby for each day. They will flake for any number of reasons. LOL.
My question is, if these girls get pregnant from BBFS, do they even have the financial resources to get you to paternity test? How will they even find you after you switch hotels / accommodations for the umpteenth time? How will they even know your real name?
ChuchoLoco
01-27-21, 00:35
I'm loving it so much that I extended my stay here. I do have a lot of things to write about but I'm just going to add cliff notes now and go into more details later.
I could have more of these arrangements but San Peter is hampering my efforts as it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper, so much so I've moved out yesterday. On my next post I'll go into detail on this.
3 of us went to Centro one night as we usually did, one got seperated from us and got stabbed and mugged by 4 guys, not badly injured but traumatised and he went home. I was in centro alone last night. Walked from Avenida to Barra, I survived but I wouldn't go near botero alone.So did the girl have a cedula as required? Did reception see your buds stabbing and blood or hear about it? There is more to this story for them to be "hampering your efforts".
And after all that you go to Centro at night solo?
Surfer as follows.
3 of us went out a few times at night. I kept thinking I don't feel safe. When I'm in Centro at night, I walk from A-be with purpose, I don't saunter. On the night in question we were out around 7 ish, dark. I picked up a girl, went back to San Peter, she got refused in the end. Later I get a knock on my door, it's K, he's asks if I have seen HappyShiva as he got split up from him. He then lifts up his top and shows blood coming from his abdomen and proceeds to tell me how his phone died and he got seperated from HS as he was talking to a girl, then got jumped on by 4 guys. This happened coming from the strip behind Veracruz, heading towards Victoria Taberna, behind the Antioquia museum where there is like a quiet stretch. Yes he looks like a very obvious gringo, Chinese decent. That's as much detail as I have.Please tell more about "the" girl being denied entry, no ID? Because I texted the manager from San Peter apartments and he said, as many girls as you want still, just one at a time, when read your first post I was thinking you had two, but now you cleared that up saying girl,.
And why you checked out, and did you find a better place to stay? Sorry about what happened to your friend, glad he's somewhat OK!
RudeBwoy100
01-27-21, 01:14
Surfer as follows.
3 of us went out a few times at night. I kept thinking I don't feel safe. When I'm in Centro at night, I walk from A-be with purpose, I don't saunter. On the night in question we were out around 7 ish, dark. I picked up a girl, went back to San Peter, she got refused in the end. Later I get a knock on my door, it's K, he's asks if I have seen HappyShiva as he got split up from him. He then lifts up his top and shows blood coming from his abdomen and proceeds to tell me how his phone died and he got seperated from HS as he was talking to a girl, then got jumped on by 4 guys. This happened coming from the strip behind Veracruz, heading towards Victoria Taberna, behind the Antioquia museum where there is like a quiet stretch. Yes he looks like a very obvious gringo, Chinese decent. That's as much detail as I have.When people say El Centro is dangerous and people should avoid going there at night it's definitely naive people like you and your friend.
1. I assume that part was deserted at 7 pm, this isn't Parque LLeras, why the hell are you guys looking for street walkers at 7 pm in El Centro and are obvious foreigners?
2. Covid19 has decimated the global economy and the longer these lockdowns continue the worse it's going to get. People are hungry and desperate, as much of a budget traveler I am I wouldn't be going there until covid is over, atleast not at night & hell even in the daytime I'm sure there are more pick pocketing etc going on if you were to listen to the news.
3. I assume your friend fought the muggers otherwise I don't know why else he would've gotten stabbed. Word the wise, never fight back and never bring anything you can't afford to lose going to sketchy places whether day or night.
I feel like we need a sticky in the Medellin section for people going to El Centro, this isn't Asia where practically everywhere is safe & you never have to worry about any of this.
I like deals. I'll set up my 2 days off work, car rental and hotel, plus airfare, once you've sent the money. Call it $3000 in advance. I'll even video it for you. Now, what self-respecting monger who couldn't teach you anything more taught you to walk around with your wallet? You don't need no wallet. Nobody is going to ask to see your high school prom photo and your social security card. You might as well carry a sign pointing to your money.
Left front pants pocket, phone. Right front pocket the majority of your money. Also ATM card if you're going to the ATM. Left rear pocket, hotel key with enough cash to get you back to your room. Right rear pocket all your small bills with a single 20 or 50 k wrapped around it."Come on now, send a mongerer I never met, $3000 cash up front with no collateral or guarantees? Do I seem like I fell of the turnip truck yesterday? After pre-paying chicas for pussy and blow job credits that has to be one of the stupidest ideas I ever heard, jaja.
But I like your willingness to engage. Did I say something about my wallet? I'm too lazy to check. I don't carry one unless you count this (foto). At least you have a spine without being accusatory and defensive, for this post. I don't remember the others. I like short term memory for places like this. I liked your pocket tips. That could go into a book about mongering. Hmmm.
What is your opinion on this set up? The foto with it under the arm is how I wear it. If I leave it even partially open. EVERYONE tells me to zip it (yeah, I know, straight man set-up), strangers, police, chicas. I'm assuming the pick pockets here are talented. I heard about the "cut and run" where they cut the strap so I picked one with an extra heavy duty strap.
Bought it in Chiang Mai, Thailand, have been to at least eight countries with it, here, USA, and SE Asia, no problems. I always wonder, do you think the appearance Invites trouble or not?
I now have around 2 non working girls which are easy to find around here. By non working I mean I don't discuss price or how long they will stay. The main one stays 2-3 days cooks cleans and fucks like a champion. No matter how long she stays she gets fed, watered, stuff bought for her kid and a $100,000 COP, no more no less?From the Section rooting for regular girls.
LivingFossil
01-27-21, 01:58
I feel like we need a sticky in the Medellin section for people going to El Centro, this isn't Asia where practically everywhere is safe & you never have to worry about any of this.ISG is a great forum but damn its infrastructure is antiquated. I'm on all types of forums and this is the hardest to navigate. If it were better organized less questions would repeated and less people would be scolded to RTFF, LOL. Each city should have annually updated stickies, I was just reading up the newest Bogota FAQ "sticky'" from like 2018. Well, maybe its better the lay person not know of our exploits.
Stay Nasty.
Surfer as follows.
3 of us went out a few times at night. I kept thinking I don't feel safe. When I'm in Centro at night, I walk from A-be with purpose, I don't saunter. On the night in question we were out around 7 ish, dark. I picked up a girl, went back to San Peter, she got refused in the end. Later I get a knock on my door, it's K, he's asks if I have seen HappyShiva as he got split up from him. He then lifts up his top and shows blood coming from his abdomen and proceeds to tell me how his phone died and he got seperated from HS as he was talking to a girl, then got jumped on by 4 guys. This happened coming from the strip behind Veracruz, heading towards Victoria Taberna, behind the Antioquia museum where there is like a quiet stretch. Yes he looks like a very obvious gringo, Chinese decent. That's as much detail as I have.I know exactly where this happened based on your description. Given how quick a group of guys can rob you, makes sense where he got jacked up where there weren't a lot of people. The lesson to be learned here is that if your an obvious gringo, and in your friends case, an obvious foreigner who doesn't fit in based on his race, you have a big "X" on your back marking you as a target, and need to be very cautious while in El Centro, especially after sundown. I hope your friend is okay.
I wish these girls understood how sex that clean body is to some guys. That is why I dabble in non-pros. More likely to find someone without tats (or maybe a small one). Unless you are rooting around in the ghetto.After I saw that foto posted, I thought, JFC, she looks like someone just delivered her from the morgue. I promise she was alive and kicking and happy when she left with 200 mil COP more in her bag, jajaja.
I talked my ex-wife out of getting tattoos a couple of times in the beginning of the last craze when all the girls were doing it, still are I guess. I told her in the end, you will stand out for NOT having tattoos in a favorable way. Now she agrees, and when your ex-wife agrees with you about anything, it's gold.
I assume your friend fought the muggers otherwise I don't know why else he would've gotten stabbed. Word the wise, never fight back and never bring anything you can't afford to lose going to sketchy places whether day or night.This is of the most popular assumptions and is worth correcting every time it comes up. Everyone expects a gentleman's robbery, one or more guys facing the victim, displaying a weapon and asking for money. You might get that. But it's at least equally likely that they will attack, hit your pockets, and run without making any requests. These simply lack the sophistication of gentleman robbers. Wink.
P.S. It always pay to have some cash on you, though not a large amount. If they go to all the trouble to find only pocket change they might take their frustrations out on your head.
SankarShetty
01-27-21, 02:49
he's asks if I have seen HappyShiva as he got split up from him. He then lifts up his top and shows blood coming from his abdomen and proceeds to tell me how his phone died and he got seperated from HS as he was talking to a girl, then got jumped on by 4 guys. This happened coming from the strip behind Veracruz, heading towards Victoria Taberna, behind the Antioquia museum where there is like a quiet stretch. Yes he looks like a very obvious gringo, Chinese decent. That's as much detail as I have.Looks like Medellin has taken a turn to the dark side. I agree with another BM comment about 'desperation', risk may have increased recently. Travel clampdown resulting in thinning of crowds in centro may have created more opportunities for violence towards gringos.
Hope the guy's is fine / doing well.
On another note, Today being the first day of new requirements for travel back to US. The process did not go smoothly for two of my friends who are currently stranded at an airport in DR. Airlines are refusing boarding if the Covid Test is not from an 'approved' list of test centers. This list is supposedly published by the US embassy.
Not sure what other US returning travelers are facing. If a BM is returning to US in the next few days, please post your travel experience.
So did the girl have a cedula as required? Did reception see your buds stabbing and blood or hear about it? There is more to this story for them to be "hampering your efforts".
And after all that you go to Centro at night solo?My friend are you actually being serious in your response or is this a joke?
Have you read anything I've posted today?
The girl I took back has nothing to do with the guy being stabbed. Let me repeat for your benefit what I stated earlier, pay attention, here goes - "I will go into more detail in another post on girls being refused entry into San Peter".
Also as I stated earlier, once more "he lifted up his shirt and there was blood coming from his abdomen".
Now if it was required for him to lift up his shirt for me to see the blood do you think reception saw it or not, is this kind of detail important to you as to whether reception saw it or not, my god.
I'm going to add the final details as was told to me. 4 guys surrounded / jumped him. One held a metal object to him to the point of his skin being punctured while the others rinsed him of his, phone wallet, cash etc. He did not require immediate hospitalisation. That's all I have for you folks. Once I have time I'll do a full write up on San Peter.
Special shout out to SpiderRider, he has been virtually advising me and guiding me through Medellin.
Edit. I was not sure whether to post about the stabbing or not. Its not intended to shock or scare anyone. Centro after dark carries a high degree of risk as has been reported numerous times. Overall , Colombians are extremely, respecfull, polite and friendly people with most areas being safe.
SavePros321
01-27-21, 04:22
On another note, Today being the first day of new requirements for travel back to US. The process did not go smoothly for two of my friends who are currently stranded at an airport in DR. Airlines are refusing boarding if the Covid Test is not from an 'approved' list of test centers. This list is supposedly published by the US embassy.A nightmare scenario, which is why I have mostly chosen to just keep my ass at home for the time being.
Hope it all works out well for your friends.
This is of the most popular assumptions and is worth correcting every time it comes up. Everyone expects a gentleman's robbery, one or more guys facing the victim, displaying a weapon and asking for money. You might get that. But it's at least equally likely that they will attack, hit your pockets, and run without making any requests. These simply lack the sophistication of gentleman robbers. Wink.
P.S. It always pay to have some cash on you, though not a large amount. If they go to all the trouble to find only pocket change they might take their frustrations out on your head.It happens so quick, you have no time to think about anything. I witnessed a mugging in Centro in the middle of the day with plenty of people around. I would guess it took about 7-8 seconds. Two guys put knives up to the guy and went through his pockets quickly. The people walking by paid little attention.
They might hurt you, they might not. Fighting back increases your chances of them hurting you.
ChuchoLoco
01-27-21, 04:28
My friend are you actually being serious in your response or is this a joke?
Have you read anything I've posted today?
The girl I took back has nothing to do with the guy being stabbed. Let me repeat for your benefit what I stated earlier, pay attention, here goes - "I will go into more detail in another post on girls being refused entry into San Peter".
Also as I stated earlier, once more "he lifted up his shirt and there was blood coming from his abdomen".
Now if it was required for him to lift up his shirt for me to see the blood do you think reception saw it or not, is this kind of detail important to you as to whether reception saw it or not, my god.I asked about the girl because of your problem with the apartments and added about the stabbing as a possible other contributing factor. Your buddy may have told the receptionist about the "stabbing". Did you read what I wrote?
Glad your buddy is OK and am also glad you won't be staying at San Peter.
As far a shocking or scaring anyone, that's doubtful. Just another story from a dumb rookie who knows it all that's why you were in Centro after dark.
Chicas ordered food online delivered to my hotel and it got here before they did, jajaja.
Domicilio is a good Spanish word to learn, since every freakin' puta in Medellin has the phone number and her most favorite expensive meal memorized for delivery, and if they got a kid or anyone at home they will order enough to take leftovers home. They are not ordering the same as they would from home for themselves, they are ordering the good shite. If you are counting pesos, give them a limit before they call. Under 50 mil COP is more than generous, 40 will get the job done, 30 is possible if you're going to give them water to drink out of the faucet, jaja. Remember, for some strange reason fast food chains are inordinately expensive relative to other prices in Colombia. Burger King, Pappa Johns, KFC, etc. Are more here than in the states. Feed them street food which is no slight, just like in SE Asia, street food is considered a quality choice or a local restaurant to save lots of pesos, especially if you are buying for more than one chica. Ostee Out.
Mr Enternational
01-27-21, 05:26
On another note, Today being the first day of new requirements for travel back to US. The process did not go smoothly for two of my friends who are currently stranded at an airport in DR. Airlines are refusing boarding if the Covid Test is not from an 'approved' list of test centers. This list is supposedly published by the US embassy.That is incorrect information. There is no approved list. There is only a list to make it easier for people that do not want to go searching for a place. As long as it is a PCR or antigen test it is fine. Your friends must have gotten the antibody test or no test at all. "The Department of State assumes no responsibility or liability for the professional ability, reputation, or quality of services provided by the entities on this list. ".
https://www.diariolibre.com/actualidad/impiden-a-mas-de-200-pasajeros-viajar-a-ee-uu-por-no-presentar-prueba-de-covid-19-GG24001986?fbclid=IwAR3gQZzJKXwsVd5Osj3VRSDYh2aQV1pe5N-sEnggjp_KDjmmRAd40teGVLU
I know exactly where this happened based on your description. Given how quick a group of guys can rob you, makes sense where he got jacked up where there weren't a lot of people. The lesson to be learned here is that if your an obvious gringo, and in your friends case, an obvious foreigner who doesn't fit in based on his race, you have a big "X" on your back marking you as a target, and need to be very cautious while in El Centro, especially after sundown. I hope your friend is okay.I guess he was followed and not aware of it. The robbers know where is a good spot to execute the robbery.
PacoEspanis
01-27-21, 10:14
I have a doubt.
I am Latino with brown skin but I have never been there, since I am from Spain.
Will I have a hard time picking up girls?
Black Page
01-27-21, 10:16
What is your opinion on this set up? The foto with it under the arm is how I wear itIt looks like "I keep my money and cell phone here".
PolloNegro
01-27-21, 11:15
When mongers are robbed in Centro, simply because you know better than to be in area like Centro if you know you can not handle yourself. What's so hard about Mongering in the day time? What's so hard about being aware of your surroundings? I can handle myself in and out of Centro, but I would be a damn fool to go to Veracruz on that side of the museum after 7 pm. There are far too many factors that put the monger at a deficit. Me and Nounce would always meet up in Centro and leave as a team. We never did much moving around after if became dark, because the further you move away from the statues in Parque Botero, the greater the danger you are in. Guess many of you mongers are dying, literally, to find that diamond in the rough for 30 mil pesos. Use your head, be safe, don't take unnecessary risk, see you all soon in Medellin. Pollo Negro is out.
P.S. I am also running a test run on the new requirements to enter and leave the country, I will tell you how it went and what I did to meet the requirements. If and when I arrive and leave!
I stayed there Dec 7th to 31. No problem with girls visiting or staying overnight. Their policy has always been that all visitors, regardless of gender, need to present a valid unexpired ID for admission. Girls need to be over 18. Colombians need to present a cedula. Non Colombians, an unexpired passport. No other documents accepted. Documents need to be originals, no pictures, photocopies etc are accepted. This effectively rules or Venezuelan chicas. Other than that, they really don't care, as long as you keep the music down and not do any lewid acts in public areas. They will scan the ID into the system, and announce your guest with a phone call. Also, they will call you if your guest is leaving unaccompanied, and with extra bags, LOL. I gave some stuff to a friend, and they wouldn't let her leave before calling me.
The only change due to covid-19 is that, only one guest allowed at a time. So threesome's or more not possible till covid-19 protocols are lifted. They also check temperature when entering.
You sir are 100% correct.
Please note that this is based on my own personal experience of how I am rolling here. In my original reference to SP I'm not saying they are refusing girls outright, I said "it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper". For a lot, this info will be irrelevant but I hope it will help some especially those that like to roam around centro and newcomers because I wish I had of known this before arriving.
So after a couple of weeks of hitting Centro clubs, bars strip clubs and random places I find a few gems that I make plans to spend more time with back at mine since I had quite a nice apartment, maybe even a day trip together. We go and get supplies, and I remind them they need a cedula. They show up and I pay for the cab, first girl, Venezuelan ID, no way unless they have a passport so I have to send her back in the cab with a small tip.
Now straight up, in and around Centro including casas over 90% of the girls I came across were Venezuelan so that's going to rule them out of entry into SP straight away unless they have a passport which they don't.
I had 5 girls refused in total. The Colombians I stressed they needed a Colombian cedula, they assured me that had it, one shows with some letter, refused. The others had some sort of ID but not a Cedeula, SP says the ID is OK but with that type of ID a passport is also required, refused.
I had 2 girls from CC permitted and 1 from Avenida De Grill permitted. From reading reports I was under the impression that a girl would wave her ID and be good to go, that's not the case. They are very strict on ID and it is scanned and checks are made online.
I understand that this is for safety but for me it just doesn't work with how I roll. I met quite a few sweet girls not just on the streets but in casas and other places that I got along really well with and not being able to take them to my own apartment became frustrating, especially during curfews after 10pm when girls really wanted to hang out with me.
So I extended my stay here and found an apartment on Airbnb of which there are plenty, without any portero. I understand this carries more risk but I'm not picking up Centro randoms, if I session with a girl a few times and I get along with her ill take her back.
Yesterday I was able to take one of my non-working girls without cédula to my new apartment, she hung out for 4 hours. I gave her 50k because when she was refused entry to SP I bought her baby milk and make up altogether around 125k. We'll hang out on Friday, there's a restaurant she wants to go to and she also wants new trainers for around 80k. I really like these types of set ups that were impossible for me at SP.
Another thing to mention. The staff at SP were always professional and courteous and I fully understand that they are following the rules. If you hang out around Poblado or just take Facebook girls then I'll presume you'll have no issues at all but for anybody with intentions of hanging out around centro and taking girls back, it's going to be challenging to say the least.
Also I was refused entry into Premier Plaza for not physically having my passport, even though the girl had a Cedula, go figure.
You sir are 100% correct.
Please note that this is based on my own personal experience of how I am rolling here. In my original reference to SP I'm not saying they are refusing girls outright, I said "it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper". For a lot, this info will be irrelevant but I hope it will help some especially those that like to roam around centro and newcomers because I wish I had of known this before arriving.
So after a couple of weeks of hitting Centro clubs, bars strip clubs and random places I find a few gems that I make plans to spend more time with back at mine since I had quite a nice apartment, maybe even a day trip together. We go and get supplies, and I remind them they need a cedula. They show up and I pay for the cab, first girl, Venezuelan ID, no way unless they have a passport so I have to send her back in the cab with a small tip.
Now straight up, in and around Centro including casas over 90% of the girls I came across were Venezuelan so that's going to rule them out of entry into SP straight away unless they have a passport which they don't.
I had 5 girls refused in total. The Colombians I stressed they needed a Colombian cedula, they assured me that had it, one shows with some letter, refused. The others had some sort of ID but not a Cedeula, SP says the ID is OK but with that type of ID a passport is also required, refused.
I had 2 girls from CC permitted and 1 from Avenida De Grill permitted. From reading reports I was under the impression that a girl would wave her ID and be good to go, that's not the case. They are very strict on ID and it is scanned and checks are made online.
I understand that this is for safety but for me it just doesn't work with how I roll. I met quite a few sweet girls not just on the streets but in casas and other places that I got along really well with and not being able to take them to my own apartment became frustrating, especially during curfews after 10pm when girls really wanted to hang out with me.
So I extended my stay here and found an apartment on Airbnb of which there are plenty, without any portero. I understand this carries more risk but I'm not picking up Centro randoms, if I session with a girl a few times and I get along with her ill take her back.
Yesterday I was able to take one of my non-working girls without cdula to my new apartment, she hung out for 4 hours. I gave her 50k because when she was refused entry to SP I bought her baby milk and make up altogether around 125k. We'll hang out on Friday, there's a restaurant she wants to go to and she also wants new trainers for around 80k. I really like these types of set ups that were impossible for me at SP.
Another thing to mention. The staff at SP were always professional and courteous and I fully understand that they are following the rules. If you hang out around Poblado or just take Facebook girls then I'll presume you'll have no issues at all but for anybody with intentions of hanging out around centro and taking girls back, it's going to be challenging to say the least.
Also I was refused entry into Premier Plaza for not physically having my passport, even though the girl had a Cedula, go figure.That's the law. No one is supposed to get in without official ID.
That all makes sense. I know they (SP) follow the rules to the letter. I had a friend travelling with me and he had not brought his passport with him when he dropped over to see me. We were going to have a coffee then head out for the day, but there was no way they were letting him go up with me to my room, even though he is a very obvious fellow tourist / gringo. So no one goes past the lobby without a passport or cedula, and they do check validity of cedulas, make copies of them or hold them, not sure which, until the outside guest leaves.
I guess he was followed and not aware of it. The robbers know where is a good spot to execute the robbery.I know exactly where this is too. That is a very dangerous area. I've been down all the side streets behind there. For a little ways, and it is dangerous during the day let alone at night.
Your strategy at night would be to run through at full speed screaming at the top of your lungs in some foreign language. Crazy they understand, and might leave you alone.
The airlines are supposed to follow CDC guidelines and CDC is quite clear on what is needed. Seems like a simple enough process to me. I am in Mexico now and going to CO in two weeks. My hotel in CO is arranging a discounted test for me. They must get a bulk contract and seems like a very good added service.
Here is the CDC link.
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/attachment-a-global-passenger-disclosure-and-attestation-2021-01-12-p.pdf
Looks like Medellin has taken a turn to the dark side. I agree with another BM comment about 'desperation', risk may have increased recently. Travel clampdown resulting in thinning of crowds in centro may have created more opportunities for violence towards gringos.
Hope the guy's is fine / doing well.
On another note, Today being the first day of new requirements for travel back to US. The process did not go smoothly for two of my friends who are currently stranded at an airport in DR. Airlines are refusing boarding if the Covid Test is not from an 'approved' list of test centers. This list is supposedly published by the US embassy.
Not sure what other US returning travelers are facing. If a BM is returning to US in the next few days, please post your travel experience.
It looks like "I keep my money and cell phone here".But don't thieves assume that everyone is carrying money and a cell phone? I think it looks like a target but I have been using it for over a year now, including a lot El Centro time. I keep my credit cards in left front pocket so I am left with something if they take the bag. I dunno. . . I probably over think it. I don't carry my passport but a copy of it. Thanks for the feedback, would like to hear more.
Why I Left SPI guess you missed the reports about cedula requirement for both places you mentioned. It has gotten stricter last couple of years in many other places too.
I know exactly where this is too. That is a very dangerous area. I've been down all the side streets behind there. For a little ways, and it is dangerous during the day let alone at night.
Your strategy at night would be to run through at full speed screaming at the top of your lungs in some foreign language. Crazy they understand, and might leave you alone.I would walk on the road, cross the street when necessary, and avoid the sidewalk at that hour for sure. The parking across the street is where more zombies start to show up. It's not a good idea to go north past that point.
Kinosellis
01-27-21, 16:53
I spoke with spirit yesterday about the new regulations and they confirmed that for flights return from mde. They only require a negative test within three days either Pcr or rapid test. So hopefully nothing crazy happens and it'll be a simple process to return.
LivingFossil
01-27-21, 17:02
That's the law. No one is supposed to get in without official ID.So if I want to smash Centro hoes at Premier Plaza I need to bring a VALID passport, I rather have my phone or wallet stolen / lost than that! I keep that in my room at all times.
I wonder if they take expired passports, or DL?
Is there are clean short time place with towels and hot showers that won't check my ID in El Centro?
But don't thieves assume that everyone is carrying money and a cell phone? I think it looks like a target but I have been using it for over a year now, including a lot El Centro time. I keep my credit cards in left front pocket so I am left with something if they take the bag. I dunno. . . I probably over think it. I don't carry my passport but a copy of it. Thanks for the feedback, would like to hear more.What Black Page was pointing out is that nobody wears what you are wearing in Colombia, hence you stick out and it marks you as a foreigner, and to a local, all foreigners have money, lots of money, and expensive smartphones.
And some advice for you based on how I navigate Medellin. Everything of value including my cell phone, Passport, and credit cards stays locked in my Apartment. When I need cash, I go to an ATM near where I live, get the cash, and immediately return back to my apartment and lock up my cards. When I leave my apartment to go anywhere, I carry colored photocopys of my ID's, enough cash for a daily outing, a civica card for use on the Metro, and a Colombian $ 30 USD burner phone. I dress down, wearing jeans and a T shirt, and have a backpack and try to blend in as much as possible. Carrying credit cards with you is a mistake, and if I were to loose my USA I phone with Verizon service in Colombia I would be totally hosed as I cannot get my number re-instated while outside the USA and it's my lifeline to the outside world, hence its stays locked up. This topic has been covered many times on this forum, and when I hear stories of guys getting jacked up, meaning losing things that are a pain to replace, besides cash, I have little sympathy for them, because this can all be avoided.
I would walk on the road, cross the street when necessary, and avoid the sidewalk at that hour for sure. The parking across the street is where more zombies start to show up. It's not a good idea to go north past that point.I'm not sure if walking in the street would make much of a difference as a group of guys would just tackle you and feast on you even in the middle of road like vultures, and any cars would drive around it.
When it's time to feast, the zombies can be like vultures, so staying away from the zombie infested area's is the smartest thing to do.
Unless of course your looking for a zombie to bang!
I have a doubt.
I am Latino with brown skin but I have never been there, since I am from Spain.
Will I have a hard time picking up girls?Your in like flint, you will most probably be able to pass as a Colombian, and may not be able to pick up any girls for free, but all of the ones you have to pay for will be available to you. Read the forum and get ready for fun!
I guess you missed the reports about cedula requirement for both places you mentioned. It has gotten stricter last couple of years in many other places too.No I didn't miss the reports actually. I read the forum extensively for 3 months and heard all about Cédulas . It's was my first time in Colombia and there is a learning curve. I'm used to Mongering in Thailand where almost all girls have one standard type of ID and there is no such issue. I asked girls here if they had a Cédula at first and that's as far as it went because I'm not yet an expert on the different types of legally accepted IDs by different nationalities and what girls perceive to be accepted forms of ID when they confirm they have a Cédula . Were you an instant expert as soon as you first landed?
Edit. I was not sure whether to post about the stabbing or not. Its not intended to shock or scare anyone. Centro after dark carries a high degree of risk as has been reported numerous times. Overall , Colombians are extremely, respecfull, polite and friendly people with most areas being safe.Everyone should post when they observe or have first hand knowledge of an incident involving a foreigner. The reason I say this is because we need a constant reminder of the dangers in Colombia, and it's just not in El Centro, and Poblado, but everywhere.
You can never let your guard down, no matter where you are, and when you least expect it, you can get jacked up.
No I didn't miss the reports actually. I read the forum extensively for 3 months and heard all about Cdulas . It's was my first time in Colombia and there is a learning curve. I'm used to Mongering in Thailand where almost all girls have one standard type of ID and there is no such issue. I asked girls here if they had a Cdula at first and that's as far as it went because I'm not yet an expert on the different types of legally accepted IDs by different nationalities and what girls perceive to be accepted forms of ID when they confirm they have a Cdula . Were you an instant expert as soon as you first landed?For Colombians that don't have Cedulas there is another form of ID that some places will accept that is called a "denucia", I don't know if I spelled it correctly, but it means report.
I have a few regulars that have lost their Cedulas which are a pain the ass to replace, so once I went with one of my girls to a place that has a registry of Cedulas and can look up based on the person's name and date of birth whether they are in the system, and provide a printout verifying that this person has a Cedula that is missing.
I may not have this completely correct what I just described, but based on my personal experience with two of my regulars, when I have shown up at Hotels with them, they have accepted the denucia in lieu of a physical Cedula, albeit I know other places will not accept this.
Were you an instant expert as soon as you first landed?You said you had 5 girls refused. But it seems some are problems on girls' side, you were unlucky to run into all of the issues. Your report will be valuable to others. Thanks.
The more you text the more I felt you were disclosing who you are and its not pretty. I agree Colombians running around with cedula is plentiful and uncommon in most countries. But you seem to gravitate to these people and looking for apartment to accommodate further marks suspicion. Now I wanted to move out San Peters so I can do 3 somes. You want to move out to bring girls in without cedula. JohnnyO it does not sound pretty. [Deleted by Admin]
You sir are 100% correct.
Please note that this is based on my own personal experience of how I am rolling here. In my original reference to SP I'm not saying they are refusing girls outright, I said "it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper". For a lot, this info will be irrelevant but I hope it will help some especially those that like to roam around centro and newcomers because I wish I had of known this before arriving.
So after a couple of weeks of hitting Centro clubs, bars strip clubs and random places I find a few gems that I make plans to spend more time with back at mine since I had quite a nice apartment, maybe even a day trip together. We go and get supplies, and I remind them they need a cedula. They show up and I pay for the cab, first girl, Venezuelan ID, no way unless they have a passport so I have to send her back in the cab with a small tip.
Now straight up, in and around Centro including casas over 90% of the girls I came across were Venezuelan so that's going to rule them out of entry into SP straight away unless they have a passport which they don't.
I had 5 girls refused in total. The Colombians I stressed they needed a Colombian cedula, they assured me that had it, one shows with some letter, refused. The others had some sort of ID but not a Cedeula, SP says the ID is OK but with that type of ID a passport is also required, refused.
I had 2 girls from CC permitted and 1 from Avenida De Grill permitted. From reading reports I was under the impression that a girl would wave her ID and be good to go, that's not the case. They are very strict on ID and it is scanned and checks are made online.
I understand that this is for safety but for me it just doesn't work with how I roll. I met quite a few sweet girls not just on the streets but in casas and other places that I got along really well with and not being able to take them to my own apartment became frustrating, especially during curfews after 10pm when girls really wanted to hang out with me..
You sir are 100% correct.
Please note that this is based on my own personal experience of how I am rolling here. In my original reference to SP I'm not saying they are refusing girls outright, I said "it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper". For a lot, this info will be irrelevant but I hope it will help some especially those that like to roam around centro and newcomers because I wish I had of known this before arriving.
So after a couple of weeks of hitting Centro clubs, bars strip clubs and random places I find a few gems that I make plans to spend more time with back at mine since I had quite a nice apartment, maybe even a day trip together. We go and get supplies, and I remind them they need a cedula. They show up and I pay for the cab, first girl, Venezuelan ID, no way unless they have a passport so I have to send her back in the cab with a small tip.
Now straight up, in and around Centro including casas over 90% of the girls I came across were Venezuelan so that's going to rule them out of entry into SP straight away unless they have a passport which they don't.
I had 5 girls refused in total. The Colombians I stressed they needed a Colombian cedula, they assured me that had it, one shows with some letter, refused. The others had some sort of ID but not a Cedeula, SP says the ID is OK but with that type of ID a passport is also required, refused...I understand now. It's part of your learning curve. SP follows the ID laws very diligently. According to the manager, they get fined some outrageous amount like 10 k USD or something, for violations. So they don't mess around. Also, those are the exact same rules followed by the folks own and live in those apartments.
They scan the ID into the computer and check it against the police criminal database. So, they are not playing with the stuff. The same rules apply to delivery guys and everyone.
For Colombians that don't have Cedulas there is another form of ID that some places will accept that is called a "denucia", I don't know if I spelled it correctly, but it means report.
I have a few regulars that have lost their Cedulas which are a pain the ass to replace, so once I went with one of my girls to a place that has a registry of Cedulas and can look up based on the person's name and date of birth whether they are in the system, and provide a printout verifying that this person has a Cedula that is missing.
I may not have this completely correct what I just described, but based on my personal experience with two of my regulars, when I have shown up at Hotels with them, they have accepted the denucia in lieu of a physical Cedula, albeit I know other places will not accept this.Yes, Colombians can get a temporary paper ID, if they lost their cedula. It doesn't have a picture on it. Some places accept it, other's don't, without another picture ID. SP doesn't accept them without another picture ID.
What Black Page was pointing out is that nobody wears what you are wearing in Colombia, hence you stick out and it marks you as a foreigner, and to a local, all foreigners have money, lots of money, and expensive smartphones.
And some advice for you based on how I navigate Medellin. Everything of value including my cell phone, Passport, and credit cards stays locked in my Apartment. When I need cash, I go to an ATM near where I live, get the cash, and immediately return back to my apartment and lock up my cards. When I leave my apartment to go anywhere, I carry colored photocopys of my ID's, enough cash for a daily outing, a civica card for use on the Metro, and a Colombian $ 30 USD burner phone. I dress down, wearing jeans and a T shirt, and have a backpack and try to blend in as much as possible. Carrying credit cards with you is a mistake, and if I were to loose my USA I phone with Verizon service in Colombia I would be totally hosed as I cannot get my number re-instated while outside the USA and it's my lifeline to the outside world, hence its stays locked up. This topic has been covered many times on this forum, and when I hear stories of guys getting jacked up, meaning losing things that are a pain to replace, besides cash, I have little sympathy for them, because this can all be avoided.That's what I want to hear.
"Come on now, send a mongerer I never met, $3000 cash up front with no collateral or guarantees? Do I seem like I fell of the turnip truck yesterday? After pre-paying chicas for pussy and blow job credits that has to be one of the stupidest ideas I ever heard, jaja.Flip it around. I'm supposed to take 2 days off work, a costly proposition, burn up 2 days off, fly Round trip to Philadelphia, rent a car, get a hotel, video myself saying "Philly" 20 times to different people and then expect to get reimbursed? I'm more than willing and will make a double or nothing side bet that I walk out without a problem. But, if you're proposing a challenge it's on you to put up or shut up.
But I like your willingness to engage. Did I say something about my wallet? I'm too lazy to check. I don't carry one unless you count this (foto). At least you have a spine without being accusatory and defensive, for this post. I don't remember the others. I like short term memory for places like this. I liked your pocket tips. That could go into a book about mongering. Hmmm.
What is your opinion on this set up? The foto with it under the arm is how I wear it. If I leave it even partially open. EVERYONE tells me to zip it (yeah, I know, straight man set-up), strangers, police, chicas. I'm assuming the pick pockets here are talented. I heard about the "cut and run" where they cut the strap so I picked one with an extra heavy duty strap.
Bought it in Chiang Mai, Thailand, have been to at least eight countries with it, here, USA, and SE Asia, no problems. I always wonder, do you think the appearance Invites trouble or not?I almost always carry a cheap, light backpack in Medellin. I carry it over one shoulder, with my hand on the strap. All it has in it are some condoms and viagra. Plus my bottle of water (that I refill from the tap as necessary. This last trip I also had sanitizing wipes and extra masks.
If someone grabs for it and tries to run, I either jerk them off their feet, or let them take it. It's just bait. Besides what I carry in it, it's handy if I'm going to the store when I head back.
Your setup:.
From Deadpool 2 - It's a goddamn fanny pack and you know it.
Personally, I would use it the same as my backpack. Carry things you don't mind losing in it. Maybe a light jacket for the rain, condoms, viagra, maybe a snack. Given the option a thief will grab it rather than go through your pockets.
So if I want to smash Centro hoes at Premier Plaza I need to bring a VALID passport, I rather have my phone or wallet stolen / lost than that! I keep that in my room at all times.
I wonder if they take expired passports, or DL?
Is there are clean short time place with towels and hot showers that won't check my ID in El Centro?I suggest you carry a color copy of your Passport along with a copy of the page that shows the stamp / date of entry into the Country. There are other short time Hotels besides Premier Plaza that will let you in without an ID, and one of the reasons Premier Plaza does this is because they are licensed to allow foreigners to stay overnight, where as others are not. Additionally, this hotel serves as an informal police substation where at times the Police sit in the lobby and use the Internet so they are under quite a bit of scrutiny, but in a good way. Forget carrying a DL, they will have no clue what they are because nobody can read or understand English in El Centro. It's not like Tijuana.
You sir are 100% correct.
Please note that this is based on my own personal experience of how I am rolling here. In my original reference to SP I'm not saying they are refusing girls outright, I said "it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper". For a lot, this info will be irrelevant but I hope it will help some especially those that like to roam around centro and newcomers because I wish I had of known this before arriving.
So after a couple of weeks of hitting Centro clubs, bars strip clubs and random places I find a few gems that I make plans to spend more time with back at mine since I had quite a nice apartment, maybe even a day trip together. We go and get supplies, and I remind them they need a cedula. They show up and I pay for the cab, first girl, Venezuelan ID, no way unless they have a passport so I have to send her back in the cab with a small tip.
Now straight up, in and around Centro including casas over 90% of the girls I came across were Venezuelan so that's going to rule them out of entry into SP straight away unless they have a passport which they don't.
I had 5 girls refused in total. The Colombians I stressed they needed a Colombian cedula, they assured me that had it, one shows with some letter, refused. The others had some sort of ID but not a Cedeula, SP says the ID is OK but with that type of ID a passport is also required, refused..That's a clear explanation. Now let me clear it up further.
I don't remember the age, but as a child, every Colombian gets an official ID card. This ID is good up to the 18th birthday. Then they are supposed to go to Migracion and apply for a cedula. When they do that, they get a letter called a Contraseña, which is used along with the original ID for identification until they can pick up their cedula at Migracion. At that time they are supposed to surrender the ID. All this takes about 2 weeks.
The original ID isn't valid without the Contraseña. The Contraseña isn't valid without the original ID. One common practice is for a girl to "lose" her ID when she gets her cedula. The "lost" ID ends up in the hands of a sister or cousin, who tries to use it until she is old enough to get her own cedula.
Gringos look at it, check the date and assume she's old enough, but most aren't. That's why San Peter Apartments won't let them in.
When in doubt, ask to see the cedula. Flip it over and check the birthday.
I would walk on the road, cross the street when necessary, and avoid the sidewalk at that hour for sure. The parking across the street is where more zombies start to show up. It's not a good idea to go north past that point.Or to go west either.
GeneHickman
01-27-21, 23:09
Everyone should post when they observe or have first hand knowledge of an incident involving a foreigner. The reason I say this is because we need a constant reminder of the dangers in Colombia, and it's just not in El Centro, and Poblado, but everywhere.
You can never let your guard down, no matter where you are, and when you least expect it, you can get jacked up.Totally agree. Most times its little things, but can be big things other times, but it still gives someone awareness and potentially may help them. Most guys somehow feel embarassed and don't talk about it.
Like if you get in a cab in lleras, make sure the dude starts his meter. If you let him go even a mile before catching youself, he can refuse and tell you some shit about its not metered this time of night and rip you off.
One tried to get me to pay 30 mil from lleras to energy. I didn't even pay 1/2 that back from La isla!
I had little recourse, but after reaching my destination, I got out and told him, I know the price is 10 mil, I will give you 15 mil and you take that or I have your cab number and other details and I will go in and call in a complaint. He took the 15 mil.
They look at a gringo and sometimes just rationalize taking from them as they feel it is OK because you won't miss it.
I can tell you most of us will pay it, and Minority of them will even mention it in the future.
Same thing when it goes south with a chica. We have all faced it. Some like Blackman, man up and chronicle their errors for others to learn from, others not.
SpiderRider
01-28-21, 00:21
My question is, if these girls get pregnant from BBFS, do they even have the financial resources to get you to paternity test? How will they even find you after you switch hotels / accommodations for the umpteenth time? How will they even know your real name?At that point its not about you or the mother. There's an innocent child. Are you so evil, selfish, and irresponsible to be asking these questions?
Mr Enternational
01-28-21, 00:33
My question is, if these girls get pregnant from BBFS, do they even have the financial resources to get you to paternity test? How will they even find you after you switch hotels / accommodations for the umpteenth time? How will they even know your real name?I would think if there is a hooker in South America that does BB, then she uses some kind birth control. You don't see a bunch of foreign babies running around like you do in Philippines and Thailand.
At that point its not about you or the mother. There's an innocent child. Are you so evil, selfish, and irresponsible to be asking these questions?The post was ludicrous to begin with, imagine a knocked up hooker trying to find a long gone John. I think the post was a intended as a joke.
MarquisdeSade1
01-28-21, 01:18
Everyone should post when they observe or have first hand knowledge of an incident involving a foreigner. The reason I say this is because we need a constant reminder of the dangers in Colombia, and it's just not in El Centro, and Poblado, but everywhere.
You can never let your guard down, no matter where you are, and when you least expect it, you can get jacked up.Put dcbornrob into utube, he made a video about a tourist (monger?) killed near parque Lleras Christmas eve 2020 for his fone.
That's a clear explanation. Now let me clear it up further.
I don't remember the age, but as a child, every Colombian gets an official ID card. This ID is good up to the 18th birthday. Then they are supposed to go to Migracion and apply for a cedula. When they do that, they get a letter called a Contrasea, which is used along with the original ID for identification until they can pick up their cedula at Migracion. At that time they are supposed to surrender the ID. All this takes about 2 weeks.
The original ID isn't valid without the Contrasea. The Contrasea isn't valid without the original ID. One common practice is for a girl to "lose" her ID when she gets her cedula. The "lost" ID ends up in the hands of a sister or cousin, who tries to use it until she is old enough to get her own cedula.
Gringos look at it, check the date and assume she's old enough, but most aren't. That's why San Peter Apartments won't let them in.
When in doubt, ask to see the cedula. Flip it over and check the birthday.I heard that when a Colombian turns 18 and applies for a cedula, they can pick any given name they want, they only have to keep their maternal and paternal surnames. If that's true, it's brilliant. It means no one ever gets stuck with a name they hate because of goofball parents, and they can change it to whatever they want instantly and legally when they turn 18, built into a preexisting process. Unverified.
Gratuitous Foto From Today.
Mojo Bandit
01-28-21, 03:53
I would think if there is a hooker in South America that does BB, then she uses some kind birth control. You don't see a bunch of foreign babies running around like you do in Philippines and Thailand.I agree with you. Used to be the strong sense of Catholicism in Colombia discouraged birth control. But even in the last ten years the chicas in Colombia have gotten more into birth control then before in huge numbers, most of them get the shot so they last 3 months. They are relatively cheap also.
My question is, if these girls get pregnant from BBFS, do they even have the financial resources to get you to paternity test? How will they even find you after you switch hotels / accommodations for the umpteenth time? How will they even know your real name?I have read about chicas and their lawyers reaching across the borders to and into US courts (who are eager to cooperate because the expect the same cooperation from Colombian courts over whatever). This means that they get the judge and they get subpoena power and they will find out what they need to know, unless you have some way of staying at a room with out showing an ID, one guy screwed up really bad because the girl he got pregnant was not exactly a woman yet, so after they took his home and car etc to cover his child support, they took him and he is cozied up in cell COT right about now with his muscle-head lifer boyfriend Javier. Bottom line though is that because you have to show your ID everywhere you stay in a foreign country,(and that's one of the reasons you have to show ID), they will find you. You can discount the chicas intelligence all you want but once she gets a lawyer and she will because someone will tell her to, then you are dealing with the whole legal and government machine of resources.
I have read about chicas and their lawyers reaching across the borders to and into US courts (who are eager to cooperate because the expect the same cooperation from Colombian courts over whatever). This means that they get the judge and they get subpoena power and they will find out what they need to know, unless you have some way of staying at a room with out showing an ID, one guy screwed up really bad because the girl he got pregnant was not exactly a woman yet, so after they took his home and car etc to cover his child support, they took him and he is cozied up in cell COT right about now with his muscle-head lifer boyfriend Javier. Bottom line though is that because you have to show your ID everywhere you stay in a foreign country,(and that's one of the reasons you have to show ID), they will find you. You can discount the chicas intelligence all you want but once she gets a lawyer and she will because someone will tell her to, then you are dealing with the whole legal and government machine of resources.Sounds a little far fetched and begs the questions who actually dumped the load into the woman that caused her to become pregnant and how do you prove whose load it was. Just because two people where in a room together doesn't prove that the guy in the room was the one who impregnated her. Am I missing something here?
Flame has been subbing for La Gacela who is out with COVID. Flame has been great about inviting her friends over and the one today, Lolli, was the best so far. As a lot of guys have said, they don't have to be the best looking to be the most fun. She was super cute, but her personality is what put her at the top. Oh, the innocent lollipop instantly turned into a tussi spoon as soon as she saw pink, I had not seen that before, jajaja. I got so fucked up on beers and that I told Flame that I wanted her to go down on me while I ate her friend's pussy, but I didn't know how to position everybody, jajajajajaa that neverhappened to me before. To make matters worse, I start trying to contort myself toward Lolli's pussy on the bed while Flame is doing the Soft Swirl position with her knees on the pillow at bedside. That ain't going to work! OMG it was hllarious. Fortunately, being the experienced yet young (legal) girls they were, Flame directed me flat on my back, legs spread, she went down on me while Lolli straddled my face and leaned on the wall at the head of the bed. That transitioned to Flame riding me cowgirl, while Lolli was still riding my face. We quit after about 20 minutes when everyone was ready for more. That was the highlight of an all day affair. Lots of laughs. Oh, the mirror. A great $7 investment. The girls are always looking at themselves, dancing, hot chicks get turned on by looking at themselves. Hotel installed it for free, got it at the Dollar Store next door. ROI incalculable, jajaa. For all you striving forensic foto pathologists, the giant ass foto is Mia, who left just before Flame and Lolli arrived.
Lucky Nuts
01-28-21, 04:37
If you meet the testing requirement for entry no quarantine is required. As for whether or not the quarantine is enforceable, it doesn't need to be. If you're supposed to be in quarantine and for any reason the police decide to stop you, something they have been known to do, and besides asking to see your passport they ask for your test results, at the very least you're going to pay a significant fine and undergo enforced quarantine. At the end of the quarantine your best outcome is they take you to the airport and remind you that you're not welcome back for an extended period of time.
Of course chances are nobody asks anything, but the penalties for not adhering to the quarantine, if required, begin at about double the cost of getting a PCR test and they go way up. Either get the test, do the quarantine or stay home.
A couple days ago the police in Laureles were on setenta stopping anyone looking non-resident taking their ID and calling in on the radio. I watched from my apartment above and assume they were verifying not on the quarantine list.
Elvis 2008
01-28-21, 05:08
My question is, if these girls get pregnant from BBFS, do they even have the financial resources to get you to paternity test? How will they even find you after you switch hotels / accommodations for the umpteenth time? How will they even know your real name?The post below is the reality you have to deal with. Yeah, I know. Why does she get to be pro-choice and not you? It does not matter.
At that point its not about you or the mother. There's an innocent child. Are you so evil, selfish, and irresponsible to be asking these questions?This is the attitude you are going to have to deal with. I do not like it but it is what it is.
Your best option is a vasectomy. Your second best option is to buy Plan be which is OTC both here and in Colombia (and it is cheaper there) and have her take the pills in front of you right after sex. Also, when you finish, make sure you leave your load / leche on the outside. Your third option, which is the worst, is to ask when she had her period. If she had it two weeks ago, you are in the danger zone.
Also, you should ask a girl what would happen if she got pregnant. Most will tell you if they would keep the kid or not. I do not think I would go bare with a woman who said there was no way she would have an abortion. I do not always ask, but I probably should.
Lucky Nuts
01-28-21, 05:40
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What is your opinion on this set up? The foto with it under the arm is how I wear it. If I leave it even partially open. EVERYONE tells me to zip it (yeah, I know, straight man set-up), strangers, police, chicas. I'm assuming the pick pockets here are talented. I heard about the "cut and run" where they cut the strap so I picked one with an extra heavy duty strap.
Bought it in Chiang Mai, Thailand, have been to at least eight countries with it, here, USA, and SE Asia, no problems. I always wonder, do you think the appearance Invites trouble or not?The saying I always keep in mind when I'm in areas with many desperate people is "Look like you would be more trouble than you are worth and that doesn't mean you look like you would be any trouble".
The saying I always keep in mind when I'm in areas with many desperate people is "Look like you would be more trouble than you are worth and that doesn't mean you look like you would be any trouble".I had this insane thought. What if it's working for me because it reminds "them" too much of a shoulder holster for a gun? Jajajajajaja. I am insane. Or am I?
Gratuitous Foto From Today.
Totally agree. Most times its little things, but can be big things other times, but it still gives someone awareness and potentially may help them. Most guys somehow feel embarassed and don't talk about it.
Like if you get in a cab in lleras, make sure the dude starts his meter. If you let him go even a mile before catching youself, he can refuse and tell you some shit about its not metered this time of night and rip you off.
One tried to get me to pay 30 mil from lleras to energy. I didn't even pay 1/2 that back from La isla!
I had little recourse, but after reaching my destination, I got out and told him, I know the price is 10 mil, I will give you 15 mil and you take that or I have your cab number and other details and I will go in and call in a complaint. He took the 15 mil.
They look at a gringo and sometimes just rationalize taking from them as they feel it is OK because you won't miss it.
I can tell you most of us will pay it, and Minority of them will even mention it in the future.
Same thing when it goes south with a chica. We have all faced it. Some like Blackman, man up and chronicle their errors for others to learn from, others not.Also be sure the meter has been reset. It should be at 3300. Got in one in Lleras and it was at 13,000.
So if I want to smash Centro hoes at Premier Plaza I need to bring a VALID passport, I rather have my phone or wallet stolen / lost than that! I keep that in my room at all times.
I wonder if they take expired passports, or DL?
Is there are clean short time place with towels and hot showers that won't check my ID in El Centro?Photocopy of passport with ID page and entry stamp showing has worked for me in the past. I agree that you should not have your actual passport with you when you are out and about.
Charm City Dave
01-28-21, 16:42
My question is, if these girls get pregnant from BBFS, do they even have the financial resources to get you to paternity test? How will they even find you after you switch hotels / accommodations for the umpteenth time? How will they even know your real name?Get a dam Vasectomy. Not going to moralize on a mongering board about the morality of creating children who most likely will have an unfit mother, no father and live a life of poverty.
But to 100% avoid any complication to YOUR life and not have to worry about it, get snipped. I got it done 10 years ago, best thing I ever did. If you think you might want kids at some point, freeze some spunk. I'm still the stallion I always was.
A good friend of mine is paying for a kid he didn't even father (in Brazil) 16 years ago since he allowed himself to be put on the birth certificate. In the past 2 women have claimed I knocked them up. Offered to take the paternity test (under my supervision), but they just went away.
Get a dam Vasectomy. Not going to moralize on a mongering board about the morality of creating children who most likely will have an unfit mother, no father and live a life of poverty.
But to 100% avoid any complication to YOUR life and not have to worry about it, get snipped. I got it done 10 years ago, best thing I ever did. If you think you might want kids at some point, freeze some spunk. I'm still the stallion I always was.
A good friend of mine is paying for a kid he didn't even father (in Brazil) 16 years ago since he allowed himself to be put on the birth certificate. In the past 2 women have claimed I knocked them up. Offered to take the paternity test (under my supervision), but they just went away.LOL at freeze some spunk, and stallion. Good edits. And great real life example.
SankarShetty
01-28-21, 19:20
Can we order food during nightly curfew hours and does it get delivered?
I am sure the answer is RTFF but still asking.
Sounds a little far fetched and begs the questions who actually dumped the load into the woman that caused her to become pregnant and how do you prove whose load it was. Just because two people where in a room together doesn't prove that the guy in the room was the one who impregnated her. Am I missing something here?This does indeed sound far fetched, I personally know about 30 Single mother Colombiana's who are not able to get any real gov't cooperation to get money or support from the father and he's usually 99% of the time a Colombian, so why or how do you think they will chase down a foreigner when they don't for their own citizens.
Your friends issue was mainly she was under age and that is completely another issue all together.
At that point its not about you or the mother. There's an innocent child. Are you so evil, selfish, and irresponsible to be asking these questions?I'm with you. That post was not a joke, it's a selfish SOB who is perfectly willing to affect someone else's life that way so he can get a nut with no consequence. The only thing he's worried about is that he can get away with it. I don't blame anyone for wanting BB sex but at least try to protect the poor girl. She's probably already trying to support a baby.
I'm with you. That post was not a joke, it's a selfish SOB who is perfectly willing to affect someone else's life that way so he can get a nut with no consequence. The only thing he's worried about is that he can get away with it. I don't blame anyone for wanting BB sex but at least try to protect the poor girl. She's probably already trying to support a baby.This topic raises the question under what circumstances a women would let a guy bareback her, and I believe that women in Colombia who sell their bodies, and allow barebacking, are either sterile, or on birth control. I just can't see a woman who sells her body, and is fertile, barebacking guys unless she is on birth control. Women in Colombia are not that stupid, and albeit Colombia is a Catholic country, I do know women in Colombia do use birth control there getting injections or using a diaphram. I found the post to be ludicrous, but that's just just my opinion.
Can we order food during nightly curfew hours and does it get delivered?
I am sure the answer is RTFF but still asking.The answer is yes, and you can also get things delivered during daytime lockdowns.
As an example EXITO will be closed to enter during a lockdown, however you can shop and have stuff delivered thru Rappi.
And no tattoos. Take my word for it, none.PM Me her info if you have a chance!
Can we order food during nightly curfew hours and does it get delivered?
I am sure the answer is RTFF but still asking.Sure, yes, Domicilio is booming. You may want to glance at my recent post about Domicilio #43677. Rappi is the phone app everyone uses for domicilio.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2525955&viewfull=1#post2525955.
Ciao'.
SankarShetty
01-29-21, 00:45
The answer is yes, and you can also get things delivered during daytime lockdowns.
As an example EXITO will be closed to enter during a lockdown, however you can shop and have stuff delivered thru Rappi.Thanks Surfer500. Hope things get back to normal soon.
SankarShetty
01-29-21, 02:46
SP's cedula requirements, on the balance, are protecting monger safety. *My experience*with SP was really good. I stated at a couple of different hotels in Laureles and Poblado but nothing comes close in terms of ease and prioritizing*guest safety.
Just as an example, here is what happened on my last day in Medellin- Jan 2020- A day before I was supposed to fly out, I started around 10 in the morning and did a marathon casa run hitting about 8 centro casas and had 3 sessions and came back to the hotel around 6, completely spent. After some work, I went to a nearby restaurant for dinner and hit bed by 10.
In the*morning when I walked down for my breakfast, I saw a drunk paisa standing right outside the lobby door (She was 5'11' and well built but not fat) shouting at someone on the phone at the lobby. I guessed she was talking to a guest at the hotel. The lobby girl indicated she has come a few times to see a guest at the hotel and the*guest no longer wanted to see her. I completed my breakfast and came back to see her still loitering in the lobby and shouting on the phone. She told me she partied with her 'friend' at Parque Lleras last night and he asked her to come to the room after partying but would not let her in now. She suspects he is with another girl from the park. I asked if she was interested in coming up to my room and she accepted. I told her I was out for cita yesterday and may not be able to perform. She said she is an expert and her 3 holes are open for business. The lobby girl gave me a disapproving look, Nevertheless, her cedula was copied and checked up online again and up we went to my room.
Once I closed the door, she offered weed and some white shit, I declined and asked her to strip. Once naked, I made her get on all fours and began to walk her like a dog around the apartment. Then, I did light S and M. Slapped, choked and spit before I let her near my junk. She blew and rimmed and I was ready for the merry go around. We tried multiple positions, she is really athletic despite not being a spinner. I gave it to her in all her holes before coming in her mouth. After an hour of rest in which she once again offered weed, she also opened up her bag and showed me a black toy (10 inch dildo) and offered to peg me to get me up for another round. I politely declined both the weed and pegging offer. She drank 3 beers I had in the fridge and promptly*began to use her toy to get herself off. She was probably high from all the stuff she did in the night.
Watching her with a black rubber cock was arousing, I was finally up for another round. When we finished it was noon. We started at 8 in the morning. I gave her 200 K mas taxi. As usual the lobby girl would not let her go unless I came down and said I am doing fine.
Good times!
A Chica And Her Domicilio Via Rappi.
This topic raises the question under what circumstances a women would let a guy bareback her, and I believe that women in Colombia who sell their bodies, and allow barebacking, are either sterile, or on birth control. I just can't see a woman who sells her body, and is fertile, barebacking guys unless she is on birth control. Women in Colombia are not that stupid, and albeit Colombia is a Catholic country, I do know women in Colombia do use birth control there getting injections or using a diaphram. I found the post to be ludicrous, but that's just just my opinion.How do you explain the pregnant chicks in El Centro?
I'm not sure if walking in the street would make much of a difference as a group of guys would just tackle you and feast on you even in the middle of road like vultures, and any cars would drive around it.
When it's time to feast, the zombies can be like vultures, so staying away from the zombie infested area's is the smartest thing to do.
Unless of course your looking for a zombie to bang!The robbers are on foot and use a knife so I think it will have a better chance to escape or the robbers will think about it before they act. If it is a gun robbery, then I think you are right. It seems the bad guys in El Centro are always on foot and using knife while it's always gun and moto in better areas.
How do you explain the pregnant chicks in El Centro?
The robbers are on foot and use a knife so I think it will have a better chance to escape or the robbers will think about it before they act. If it is a gun robbery, then I think you are right. It seems the bad guys in El Centro are always on foot and using knife while it's always gun and moto in better areas.The pregnant Chcas you see in El Centro are typically forced to work by their loser boyfriends if their even in the picture, and just because you see a pregnant Chica working El Centro doesn't mean she got knocked up while working doing guys bareback.
And I know from personal experience that robbery by gunpoint on a moto is very common. Today a friend of mine told me about a guy somewhere on Avenida Poblado who was waiting for an Uber, had his phone in his hand, a gringo, and guess what, a guy pulls up on a moto and shoves a gun in the guys face and says hand over the phone. Just another reminder of how cautious you have to be, hence I only carry a cheap burner phone on me, and I only travel by taxi / bus and the Metro.
I had $147 taken out in December when I used the ATM but it did not give me money and $149 returned returned today. The ATM fee is not what I am talking about. Yes my bank returns those; unlimited as far as I know.Works fine with Bank of America, USAA. Navy Federal, not so much. Two separate accounts, different ATMs, different days. Charged me for the funds, spit out no cash. Luckily Navy Fed gave my money back. Now I have accounts at 3 banks in Colombia which makes things a lot easier.
I asked the question about pregnancy a few pages back and I like how some people are getting so uppity about it.
I asked that question because every time people mention BBFS, people mention make sure the girls are on birth control. But how do you as a guy know they are on birth control?
So I started thinking if you negotiate a BBFS session with a girl, but they are not actually on birth control, how can you as a man be protected.
I appreciate all the members that answered my question.
I feel bad for the people who got their feelings hurt by the question.
Monger on boys!
Iluvduplas
01-29-21, 07:14
But don't thieves assume that everyone is carrying money and a cell phone? I think it looks like a target but I have been using it for over a year now, including a lot El Centro time. I keep my credit cards in left front pocket so I am left with something if they take the bag. I dunno. . . I probably over think it. I don't carry my passport but a copy of it. Thanks for the feedback, would like to hear more.I agree. It's not like if you dress plain the can't tell who you are. Were not as good as superman. They shot us no matter what we wear or have. Our mannerisms give us away, language even buying from the grocery store standing there counting change. Just don't wear your 10 k Rolex.
Black Page
01-29-21, 10:45
The robbers are on foot and use a knife so I think it will have a better chance to escape or the robbers will think about it before they act.Good luck. Underestimating problems is the most typical reason of failed plans.
(However, when walking in dangerous areas especially at night, it is a good measure to walk in the middle and not on the sidewalk, keep eyes open in front and back, keep distance with any group of 2 or more people, which includes walking back or turning at cross.)
The saying I always keep in mind when I'm in areas with many desperate people is "Look like you would be more trouble than you are worth and that doesn't mean you look like you would be any trouble".The problem with dressing as if you are not well off is that nice non-pros are not interested.
BigButtDetecto
01-29-21, 23:24
"Come on now, send a mongerer I never met, $3000 cash up front with no collateral or guarantees? Do I seem like I fell of the turnip truck yesterday? After pre-paying chicas for pussy and blow job credits that has to be one of the stupidest ideas I ever heard, jaja.
But I like your willingness to engage. Did I say something about my wallet? I'm too lazy to check. I don't carry one unless you count this (foto). At least you have a spine without being accusatory and defensive, for this post. I don't remember the others. I like short term memory for places like this. I liked your pocket tips. That could go into a book about mongering. Hmmm.
What is your opinion on this set up? The foto with it under the arm is how I wear it. If I leave it even partially open. EVERYONE tells me to zip it (yeah, I know, straight man set-up), strangers, police, chicas. I'm assuming the pick pockets here are talented. I heard about the "cut and run" where they cut the strap so I picked one with an extra heavy duty strap.
Bought it in Chiang Mai, Thailand, have been to at least eight countries with it, here, USA, and SE Asia, no problems. I always wonder, do you think the appearance Invites trouble or not?Thank you for your infos. The underarm funny bag may be useful. I personally have a short sleeves hunter style jacket with many pockets. I can sort my banknotes in it. It works as an organizer. I only bring an ID and gel sanitizer with me.
El Centro. It's just not for the faint of heart my hat's off to locals who can play there, but those zombie glue heads scared me off. I guess it was pretty funny to watch but I'm sorry to hear someone got stabbed.
El Centro. It's just not for the faint of heart my hat's off to locals who can play there, but those zombie glue heads scared me off. I guess it was pretty funny to watch but I'm sorry to hear someone got stabbed.Same thing with Santa Fe in Bogota. Walked around by myself and did not feel comfortable. Got searched by police officers once. I guess they were looking for cocaine. Thoroughly searched my wallet and pockets. There is a lot of street action but I haven't seen any stunners. Most girls are average or below average looking. Woodman offered help but I passed, too rough for me.
El Centro. It's just not for the faint of heart my hat's off to locals who can play there, but those zombie glue heads scared me off. I guess it was pretty funny to watch but I'm sorry to hear someone got stabbed.I will put it under some context. What I am describing is pre-pandemic normal time.
Wolf has a map that covers El Centro pretty well. When we talk about El Centro, most often it refers to a smaller area including Plaza Botero, the museum, to the Veracruz church. This is an area with lots of tourists and locals. There is constant police presence during daytime. You see many tourists with their phones out, taking pictures without worrying about being robbed, most of the times anyway. Hotel Premier Plaza, Zona Rosa are all in here. So the area isn't bad during daytime. There are occasional robberies here. My observation is the bad guys come from other area, find a target, then they leave. They don't stick around. So if anyone tries to approach you, or when a local speaks English to you, the best thing to do is to get away from them toward the direction of the metro, or walk to the police tent in the plaza. Don't go toward the church direction.
It's not a good place to be after dark when the police are gone. I think the bad guys don't even need a weapon to rob you. K was robbed just one block outside of this area in a short stretch where there is no store or bar and no people.
The zombies I think are not glue sniffers. I see many of them use a lighter and syringe but I don't know what they use. Many glue sniffers are actually quite hot, haha.
LoveItHere69
01-30-21, 03:57
How do you explain the pregnant chicks in El Centro?When I left Oct 28, 2020 I met or knew of several pregnant chicks in Centro. First one, had a boyfriend she hung out with openly and thus the BF was easy to spot. Second one, had a boyfriend who stayed in that center park like area sitting on the benches. She would go to him and chat and hug every hour or so. She just had her baby last week. Saw her today. Baby so small. Wants diaper money. Third one, a girl told me about who was her friend but she was too young and not my type. I assume she got pregnant with her boyfriend and was now at Centro to earn money for the future baby to come. The majority of these girls all have local boyfriends who are mostly their own age who sex them regularly and have far more potent seed then us older folks.
Mojo Bandit
01-30-21, 13:28
Sounds a little far fetched and begs the questions who actually dumped the load into the woman that caused her to become pregnant and how do you prove whose load it was. Just because two people where in a room together doesn't prove that the guy in the room was the one who impregnated her. Am I missing something here?Do you think I just got drunk and decided to make shit up?? This was a news story a few years back. I am pretty sure the link was posted here or in the Cartagena thread. It is simple a DNA test, that is how you prove whose load it was, a paternity test. Maybe I did not clarify that the US courts got involved and ordered the paternity test.
This does indeed sound far fetched, I personally know about 30 Single mother Colombiana's who are not able to get any real gov't cooperation to get money or support from the father and he's usually 99% of the time a Colombian, so why or how do you think they will chase down a foreigner when they don't for their own citizens.
Your friends issue was mainly she was under age and that is completely another issue all together."Your friends issue was mainly. " What are you talking about? Did I say anything about my friend? Do not try to tell a story that you do not know. This is not about my 'friend' and this is not a story that I heard. This was in the news a few years ago and links to the story on this board. No one said anything about Colombian fathers or the Colombian government. The story was about her getting a lawyer to track the guy down and she was trying to get child support and then the US courts got involved. Then it turned out that she was under the age.
I post this information so people know what can happen but if you think you have it all figured out you go right on ahead doing what you think is best
Mojo Bandit
01-30-21, 13:34
I was just checking around the internet for travel advisories to Colombia to make sure by blog (that probably no one reads LOL) on Colombia travel is up to date when I came across this on the State Department's website.
"Effective January 26, all airline passengers to the United States ages two years and older must provide a negative COVID-19 viral test taken within three calendar days of travel. Alternatively, travelers to the USA May provide documentation from a licensed health care provider of having recovered from COVID-19 in the 90 days preceding travel. Check the CDC website for additional information and Frequently Asked Questions, including the expectation to self-quarantine and get tested soon after arrival. This requirement does not apply to travelers entering the United States by land or sea or to children under two years of age. It applies to USA Citizens, as well as foreign nationals, regardless of vaccination status. ".
"This requirement does not apply to travelers entering the United States by land or sea".
The same statement can be found on the US Embassy to Mexico website. So my question is this: theoretically a person who was desperate could say fly into Tijuana and cross the border into San Diego and then catch a domestic flight to where ever in the US they were going without having to present a virus test? Does that sound plausible?
Mr Enternational
01-30-21, 13:51
"This requirement does not apply to travelers entering the United States by land or sea".
The same statement can be found on the US Embassy to Mexico website. So my question is this: theoretically a person who was desperate could say fly into Tijuana and cross the border into San Diego and then catch a domestic flight to where ever in the US they were going without having to present a virus test? Does that sound plausible?It is not only plausible, but it is true. I don't know who would go through all of that though. It would be simpler, easier, cheaper, and save more time to just get the test.
Police Checkpoint On Avenida 70 Last Night around 2 AM one block from the Stadium Metro Station, right below my hotel window. They stopped all private cars unless they were already busy. Most of the time the occupants had to get out of the vehicle. They checked ID on everyone in the vehicle. The whole thing was a calm affair and they treated everyone the same.
Same spot earlier in the day, normal hustle and bustle.
It is not only plausible, but it is true. I don't know who would go through all of that though. It would be simpler, easier, cheaper, and save more time to just get the test.Sure it plausible. If you were and a set schedule and could not risk getting shutdown or quarantined in Colombia or wherever, why not? Some more logistics and probably cost involved but you could have 100 percent assurance you could get back when you wanted. Also remember, the PCR and COVID test apparently have a inaccuracies and are not definitely 💯 percent accurate.
A lot of interesting shite goes on outside my hotel window on Avenida 70 near the Estadio Metro Station.
I am not a firearms expert but I think a recognize a pistol-grip 12 gauge shotgun and a. 357 magnum revolver, fingers on triggers.
Do you think I just got drunk and decided to make shit up?? This was a news story a few years back. I am pretty sure the link was posted here or in the Cartagena thread. It is simple a DNA test, that is how you prove whose load it was, a paternity test. Maybe I did not clarify that the US courts got involved and ordered the paternity test.I can't ever remember seeing a post of yours that seemed fabricated, and without your clarification, it just seemed very odd, it sounded as though a hooker in Colombia could very easily upon discovering she was pregnant, just go back to the Hotel where she thought she got pregnant after what ever time elapsed, walk into the Hotel I'm assuming with legal intervention to obtain the information, than walkout out with the information on the guy, track him down in the United States, and then thru the USA legal system have the paternity test performed.
Seems highly unlikely that this scenario would ever playout, as most hookers wouldn't have the money or resources to track a guy down after discovering they were pregnant, after the guy had left the Country.
Maybe you can locate the story your referring too, and post it, and there is something we can learn from it.
"This requirement does not apply to travelers entering the United States by land or sea".
The same statement can be found on the US Embassy to Mexico website. So my question is this: theoretically a person who was desperate could say fly into Tijuana and cross the border into San Diego and then catch a domestic flight to where ever in the US they were going without having to present a virus test? Does that sound plausible?Right now with a USA Passport, Global Entry, Sentri, or a USA Passport Card, you can walk across the border from Tijuana to San Ysidro without a test. However, upon entering the Country they will scan your document and identify your travel history, and if with a Passport, they may go thru it, and notice you arrived in the Country by air into Tijuana raising some questions if not already identified in their data base. Technically though, the way the requirement is currently in effect, you wouldn't be breaking the law in my opinion as your entering the Country by land, not be air, hence I find it plausible.
Do you think I just got drunk and decided to make shit up?? This was a news story a few years back. I am pretty sure the link was posted here or in the Cartagena thread. It is simple a DNA test, that is how you prove whose load it was, a paternity test. Maybe I did not clarify that the US courts got involved and ordered the paternity test.One possibility is the Colombia court has determined the child support. Then it is easier to get US court to cooperate assume both countries are in some international convention. So this is very possible.
I think it will be difficult to get US court to cooperate without a Colombia court judgement. They will be overwhelmed by cases out of nowhere if they do. The other way is to sue in US court but that is going to be costly and US lawyers will want to be paid first in the form of retainer which will be a large sum of money by Colombia standard. I think this maybe what Surfer was thinking.
The Tall Man
01-30-21, 17:40
I would think if there is a hooker in South America that does BB, then she uses some kind birth control. You don't see a bunch of foreign babies running around like you do in Philippines and Thailand.
The post was ludicrous to begin with, imagine a knocked up hooker trying to find a long gone John. I think the post was a intended as a joke.
The pregnant Chcas you see in El Centro are typically forced to work by their loser boyfriends if their even in the picture, and just because you see a pregnant Chica working El Centro doesn't mean she got knocked up while working doing guys bareback.
And I know from personal experience that robbery by gunpoint on a moto is very common. Today a friend of mine told me about a guy somewhere on Avenida Poblado who was waiting for an Uber, had his phone in his hand, a gringo, and guess what, a guy pulls up on a moto and shoves a gun in the guys face and says hand over the phone. Just another reminder of how cautious you have to be, hence I only carry a cheap burner phone on me, and I only travel by taxi / bus and the Metro.1000% true about the centro chicas, both Venezuelans and paisa, getting pregnant by their absolutely loser boyfriends.
The Tall Man.
BTW. I was out in el centro, the bars, last night, after a few hours handing with some amigos and amigas I found me something new fresh and ready to play, retrieved my car from the parking garage, told her I would return to pick her up in this exact spot within 8 minutes, so she was eagerly waiting for me and off we went high into the hills / mountains of las Palmas, very exciting and very different as I am fucking her with the view of night time Medellin as she is hanging onto a railing doing her doggy style. She wanted me to take her home to barrio popular or near there but I found a taxi for her and her 10 mil extra. It was raw and real and in the open, what an experience.
Well now this morning I have a headache and body-ache and the sniffles, perhaps I caught the virus not last night but in the past week. I need to rest my body and my gawd never in my life would think that I would say this but it needs a break from the continuous pussy.
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