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MongerHunger
02-21-21, 11:15
I took an Antigen test within 3 days of my departure flight. It was 110 mil plus 13 mil for domicilio. A guy came to my apt at a predetermined time and swapped my nose and I got results within 6 hours and they guarantee results within 24 hours. Communication all done in Whatsapp and in Spanish. +57 (315) 467-7121. It's called Unidad Medica Centrolab.
Entering USA was easy, just make sure to have digital copy of test results as they check at Colombia airport and at any international transit stop. Never seen an almost empty customs/immigration line when I transited through Houston (btw wish all the Texans the best).I take it that they are not enforcing the 7 days quarantine requirement to enter the US as stated.
GeneHickman
02-21-21, 16:40
Makes sense, always better to be on safe side and have a lawyer in case any surprises come up and knowing MDE, shit always tend to happen more often than not. True, trustworthy def not a trait I would use to describe a typical paisa. I'm pretty much going to do this on my own, and the paisa friends are just there for on the ground advice nothing more.Happy you are confident and have friends. People talk within communities. Its a matter of time before it catches the ear of someone that has gang power that there is a gringo with $$ around town, it doesn't have to be someone in your circle that lets that information out, if you live somehwere people just come to know in time. Organized crime works by targetting people with the biggest possible payday. A gringo apartment owner who parties in Bello is simply going to end up on their radar and an irrestible target sooner or later.
Happy you are confident and have friends. People talk within communities. Its a matter of time before it catches the ear of someone that has gang power that there is a gringo with $$ around town, it doesn't have to be someone in your circle that lets that information out, if you live somehwere people just come to know in time. Organized crime works by targetting people with the biggest possible payday. A gringo apartment owner who parties in Bello is simply going to end up on their radar and an irrestible target sooner or later.And not even the attention of high level guys. They may be too busy. It's the lower level punks that are even most likely to cause harm and in Bello's barrios there is no insulation from them.
QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2533496]Another great day in MDE.
She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.
But not fat at all. In gym clothes. Alejandra. She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.
end QUOTE
This is typical of screwing up the price structure and raising prices. You got guys perpetuating the gringo attitude of -so cheap compared to home.
Just a couple years ago reports of mongers accepting the going rate of 15 and 20 k for a street girl then giving tips or rounding off or doubling because its -so cheap compared to home.
Another one is the -pay first mentality with street girls.
Yeh I know, its your money and blah blah but when street girls and casa prices increase to 100 k and 250 k for a quickie, and more reports of cash and dash loss of upper hand etc., look in the mirror and figure out why LOL.
JohnnyWalker55
02-21-21, 18:21
QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2533496]Another great day in MDE.
She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.
But not fat at all. In gym clothes. Alejandra. She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.
end QUOTE
This is typical of screwing up the price structure and raising prices. You got guys perpetuating the gringo attitude of -so cheap compared to home.
Just a couple years ago reports of mongers accepting the going rate of 15 and 20 k for a street girl then giving tips or rounding off or doubling because its -so cheap compared to home.
Another one is the -pay first mentality with street girls.
Yeh I know, its your money and blah blah but when street girls and casa prices increase to 100 k and 250 k for a quickie, and more reports of cash and dash loss of upper hand etc., look in the mirror and figure out why LOL.Boo hoo.
Plenty of girls still offer 20-25 k. Just the ugly ones.
If some chick decides she's going to hold out for everything over 40-50 k she's going to be standing there all day while all the other chicks undercut her. Basic economics.
Sorry you don't like I sometimes throw an extra 2. 50 usd instead of haggling over the price of a pack of gum to fuck a smoking 19 year old.
RiceRocket99
02-21-21, 19:00
I have paisa friends that know lots of people in gang circles and in the drug trade. That shit doesn't even bother or scare me. I might even join them and create a chino cartel or a chino plaza haha. Kidding aside, Bello does get a bad rep, even more so from their fellow paisas. I took a Medellin girl out in Bello to party it up at a bar and she got all paranoid about being robbed or drugged and wasn't comfortable with me talking to random people because they were young, hot, and buzzed haha. Well, that was a mood killer because that place was popping with good music, hot chicks, cheap drinks, and even cheaper party favors. I had to finish her back at my newly renovated Bello apt I was renting for $18 USD a night. You guys can stay in Poblado / Laureles / Envigado, which doesn't really mean it's that much safer considering the recent robberies. Bello is not for the average MDE visitor, and probably not even for most MDE vets. But it's all to each his own and we all roll different and that's what makes MDE una chimba hpta! In the words of Pollo Negro. Chino Amarillo is out!
Happy you are confident and have friends. People talk within communities. Its a matter of time before it catches the ear of someone that has gang power that there is a gringo with $$ around town, it doesn't have to be someone in your circle that lets that information out, if you live somehwere people just come to know in time. Organized crime works by targetting people with the biggest possible payday. A gringo apartment owner who parties in Bello is simply going to end up on their radar and an irrestible target sooner or later.
Gringo Trooper
02-21-21, 20:01
I think we may have another SJobs type here again.
Move to Bello if you wish. Buyer beware, it will be a very humbling experience and I would never recommend that a foreigner stay in that area.
Be careful brother.
Elvis 2008
02-21-21, 20:20
I take it that they are not enforcing the 7 days quarantine requirement to enter the US as stated.MH,
I think it is supposed to be 10 days, and no one said anything to me about it when I re-entered from Mexico last week. I did get grilled a little more per customs than usual though but I think it was just because it was so damned slow at the airport. The airport in Monterrey was busy. The USA side may have been the slowest I have seen since Covid began. I suspect this was just the international part though.
QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2533496]Another great day in MDE.
She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal.
But not fat at all. In gym clothes. Alejandra. She says 40 k, I got two twenties. Perfect. I know I say I usually just give 50 k but if I have the change in bills I take the deal. And borderline delusional.
I have paisa friends that know lots of people in gang circles and in the drug trade. That shit doesn't even bother or scare me. I might even join them and create a chino cartel or a chino plaza haha. Kidding aside, Bello does get a bad rep, even more so from their fellow paisas. I took a Medellin girl out in Bello to party it up at a bar and she got all paranoid about being robbed or drugged and wasn't comfortable with me talking to random people because they were young, hot, and buzzed haha. Well, that was a mood killer because that place was popping with good music, hot chicks, cheap drinks, and even cheaper party favors. I had to finish her back at my newly renovated Bello apt I was renting for $18 USD a night. You guys can stay in Poblado / Laureles / Envigado, which doesn't really mean it's that much safer considering the recent robberies. Bello is not for the average MDE visitor, and probably not even for most MDE vets. But it's all to each his own and we all roll different and that's what makes MDE una chimba hpta! In the words of Pollo Negro. Chino Amarillo is out!You can live there 10 years safely having fun etc etc.
It only takes one bad experience.
No matter what at the end of the day you're not one of them. You will always be a gringo to them. Welcomed at times yes. But talk to the wrong girl one time and piss the wrong guy off one time you'll realize the "friends" you have won't be there to help.
A lot of gringos don't get this. I'm Asian also and I've never been robbed or had any bad situations. And I'll continue to go take certain precautions so that hopefully it stays this way.
But IMO I've seen too many gringos come here then fall in love with the lifestyle then move here because they're with women they couldn't possibly pull in the states. Not saying the case with you. And eventually all 3 that friends that I know moved here have been drugged at least once. One of them was drugged twice.
Yes maybe Bello is great for you now. But the odds will always be against you as long as there's no 0 on the other side.
You can live there 10 years safely having fun etc etc.
It only takes one bad experience.
No matter what at the end of the day you're not one of them. You will always be a gringo to them. Welcomed at times yes. But talk to the wrong girl one time and piss the wrong guy off one time you'll realize the "friends" you have won't be there to help.
A lot of gringos don't get this. I'm Asian also and I've never been robbed or had any bad situations. And I'll continue to go take certain precautions so that hopefully it stays this way.
But IMO I've seen too many gringos come here then fall in love with the lifestyle then move here because they're with women they couldn't possibly pull in the states. Not saying the case with you. And eventually all 3 that friends that I know moved here have been drugged at least once. One of them was drugged twice.
Yes maybe Bello is great for you now. But the odds will always be against you as long as there's no 0 on the other side.Having met RiceRocket I have no doubts he can handle himself. But as mentioned, it only takes one really bad experience to fuck it all up.
Is there any value of living here as he plans, and trying to keep as low a profile as possible? In other words, never show or act like you are have any extra wealth other than just enough to get by. I know, the standard answer is the locals assume anyone here from another country is a potential target, but by blending in and not flashing cash and jewelry and not having ostentatious items in your casa, does that help?
And not even the attention of high level guys. They may be too busy. It's the lower level punks that are even most likely to cause harm and in Bello's barrios there is no insulation from them.Or the brothers of the girls he's boning. The girls will most certainly talk to their brothers / cousins / boyfriends and tell them about the rich Gringo.
RiceRocket99
02-21-21, 23:43
I don't know who's SJobs, but my first time in Bello was like 6 years ago and I liked it ever since. I've stayed in various barrios to get a general feel of this big city, so it's not like I'm going in blind. And yes, I wouldn't recommend a foreigner staying there either. It seems many of you take that advice since I almost never see any gringos out there.
A very humbling experience was when I took a day trip exploring the streets/hills of Manrique with a local chick and I visited her barrio and apt in an Estrato 1 area, more like Estrato -1. I met all 3 of her hot sisters who all have at least 1 kid, 2 of them were breast feeding in front of me, tits out and about, I was like damn, I want some milk too haha. The poorest hoods do have some of the best views and hottest putas.
I think we may have another SJobs type here again.
Move to Bello if you wish. Buyer beware, it will be a very humbling experience and I would never recommend that a foreigner stay in that area.
Be careful brother.
RiceRocket99
02-21-21, 23:52
Ummmm. A rich gringo wouldn't be staying in Bello and I ain't rich by any means. I don't flaunt money out in the open and the girls I know very well, I also know their families such as their brothers, cousins, and ex boyfriends as well haha. Surprised I haven't been drugged or robbed by any of them yet, maybe they waiting on my next trip and take me out clean. Man too many haters on this board. Oh well, this is my last post on this subject. Cheers everyone! Stay safe and have fun!
Or the brothers of the girls he's boning. The girls will most certainly talk to their brothers / cousins / boyfriends and tell them about the rich Gringo.
Ummmm. A rich gringo wouldn't be staying in Bello and I ain't rich by any means. I don't flaunt money out in the open and the girls I know very well, I also know their families such as their brothers, cousins, and ex boyfriends as well haha. Surprised I haven't been drugged or robbed by any of them yet, maybe they waiting on my next trip and take me out clean. Man too many haters on this board. Oh well, this is my last post on this subject. Cheers everyone! Stay safe and have fun!I don't think people are hating on you for wanting to live in bello.
I think more people are trying to caution you. But hey if you want to do it that's all that matters.
RiceRocket99
02-22-21, 00:37
Yes, I do appreciate the advice given here. But a little caught off guard to how much bad rep Bello gets on this board, which I guess for the most part is warranted. I was hoping to get more people to enjoy and explore Bello and see the beauty of it, it's called 'Bello' for a reason right haha. The stigma about Bello and it's violence and turf wars is the same thing Medellin had back in the Pablo Escobar days, even though outside Colombia people still think Medellin in general is a very dangerous and violent city and that you will be robbed / drugged / kidnapped right when you step off the airport.
I don't think people are hating on you for wanting to live in bello.
I think more people are trying to caution you. But hey if you want to do it that's all that matters.
ColombiaLover
02-22-21, 00:39
I agree with Sang. It's all about safety. It may be fine for you, but I would not want some other gringo with little experience in Colombia to think that he could just as easily live in Bello. For the average gringo, it's probably not a great option.
I don't think people are hating on you for wanting to live in bello.
I think more people are trying to caution you. But hey if you want to do it that's all that matters.
ColombiaLover
02-22-21, 00:42
Some of my best times were going to Aranjuez, Manrique, Campo Valdes, and even San Javier. And boy are there some gems. But I would have never gone to any of these places alone. I always go with chicas I know and either stay in a bar or go to their home. They watch out for me. And unless I'm in a bar, I never pass time in those places at night and certainly not by myself. It's just not worth the risk. The "average" gringo visiting Medellin has no business going to these places. Just asking for trouble. I know some guys who never leave the Mansion and for those guys, they are probably making a rational decision.
I don't know who's SJobs, but my first time in Bello was like 6 years ago and I liked it ever since. I've stayed in various barrios to get a general feel of this big city, so it's not like I'm going in blind. And yes, I wouldn't recommend a foreigner staying there either. It seems many of you take that advice since I almost never see any gringos out there.
A very humbling experience was when I took a day trip exploring the streets/hills of Manrique with a local chick and I visited her barrio and apt in an Estrato 1 area, more like Estrato -1. I met all 3 of her hot sisters who all have at least 1 kid, 2 of them were breast feeding in front of me, tits out and about, I was like damn, I want some milk too haha. The poorest hoods do have some of the best views and hottest putas.
RiceRocket99
02-22-21, 00:59
I was thinking about renting an airbnb in Manrique near la 45 to explore more on my own, but decided it was prob not a good idea haha. First, ain't no airbnb anywhere near that area. Second, just like you, I never go into those barrios alone day or night. It's always with a chica or two hanging out, having drinks, or grabbing food. You and I roll similarly in that way, which we have posted many times here before. But really though, Manrique is up there with Bello in terms of barrio hotties. Some girls have told me barrio girls are sexy and slutty because they don't have much money for fancy clothes so they wear the least amount possible haha. Booty shorts and low cut shirts, it's like they put on the bare minimum and I love it. I couldn’t believe how many times I had to turn my head that day in Manrique or try not to stare too hard haha. My girl was like ‘I told you so.’
Some of my best times were going to Aranjuez, Manrique, Campo Valdes, and even San Javier. And boy are there some gems. But I would have never gone to any of these places alone. I always go with chicas I know and either stay in a bar or go to their home. They watch out for me. And unless I'm in a bar, I never pass time in those places at night and certainly not by myself. It's just not worth the risk. The "average" gringo visiting Medellin has no business going to these places. Just asking for trouble. I know some guys who never leave the Mansion and for those guys, they are probably making a rational decision.
GeneHickman
02-22-21, 01:42
Ummmm. A rich gringo wouldn't be staying in Bello and I ain't rich by any means. I don't flaunt money out in the open and the girls I know very well, I also know their families such as their brothers, cousins, and ex boyfriends as well haha. Surprised I haven't been drugged or robbed by any of them yet, maybe they waiting on my next trip and take me out clean. Man too many haters on this board. Oh well, this is my last post on this subject. Cheers everyone! Stay safe and have fun!Social acceptance is a big deal in these communities. If they've absorbed you as one of their own, fair enough, but that comes at a baseline level of risk which they all live with. As others have said its your decision and you will be the one to pay the price should thing go poorly, so we are all just commentators at the end of the day, not haters, just presenting an opposite perspective in various ways.
As to rich, man get real. You just told us you had an apartment in san francisco, then you told us about the strata 1 chica whose house you went to with her sisters (maybe and often teenagers) openly breastfeeding etc. Can you not see the contrast? You are rich by their standards, and no matter what you say they know that you are decently well off and to them "rich". .
Anyway god luck. As to whether you are SJobs, I am on the fence. Hope you stay and become a valuable contributor so we know how your plans are evolving. Time will tell.
I agree with Sang. It's all about safety. It may be fine for you, but I would not want some other gringo with little experience in Colombia to think that he could just as easily live in Bello. For the average gringo, it's probably not a great option.I don't think you have to worry about all the new gringos deciding to go buy places in Bello, or even going there. Let's face it, Parque Lleras is an adrenaline rush for most gringos. Besides, there's no need to go to Bello, when the Bello girls will come to you.
Someone who I trusted told me if he was buying in Medellin, Obrero or Las Cabanas would be at the top of his list. Living there isn't as big of a stretch as people are making it out to be. You just have to be in the right area.
I take it that they are not enforcing the 7 days quarantine requirement to enter the US as stated.There is no 7 day quarantine. You just need a negative antigen (rapid) or PCR or NAAT test. Basically anything other than an Antibody test will work. Airlines are responsible for enforcing it. They will also make you sign a document at the check in. The only minor issue is that online check in is not an option anymore for the airlines I use. I travelled back to US twice since the new rule. It is painless. When I landed in US, negative covid test was not asked for on the global entry questionnaire.
The onle travel tip I would offer is to get the test at least 48 hours ahead. If you get a false positive, you will have time to repeat the test. Otherwise you are stuck in the country you are trying to leave.
Yes, I do appreciate the advice given here. But a little caught off guard to how much bad rep Bello gets on this board, which I guess for the most part is warranted. I was hoping to get more people to enjoy and explore Bello and see the beauty of it, it's called 'Bello' for a reason right haha. The stigma about Bello and it's violence and turf wars is the same thing Medellin had back in the Pablo Escobar days, even though outside Colombia people still think Medellin in general is a very dangerous and violent city and that you will be robbed / drugged / kidnapped right when you step off the airport.Well during my 5 years visiting mde I'm talking based on personal experiences. Not perception.
I know 3 gringos who live here got drugged.
I've had dates cancelled on me from girls in bello saying the streets were violent and locked off by cops.
Numerous girls who live in Bello have told me it's just too dangerous and they would all prefer to live somewhere else.
While you may be enjoying the change of scenery from SF and having the time of your life.
My only personal suggestion would be to be careful.
Even if I can speak perfect Spanish just like them but I'll never be "one of them". And this is always a big thing to remember.
Ummmm. A rich gringo wouldn't be staying in Bello and I ain't rich by any means. I don't flaunt money out in the open and the girls I know very well, I also know their families such as their brothers, cousins, and ex boyfriends as well haha. Surprised I haven't been drugged or robbed by any of them yet, maybe they waiting on my next trip and take me out clean. Man too many haters on this board. Oh well, this is my last post on this subject. Cheers everyone! Stay safe and have fun!No hating at all. In fact I applaud you for getting away from the Gringo hoard and doing something different. I also applaud you for not flaunting money, which is never a good idea in most mongering locales.
But even if you don't flaunt it, they view you as rich. If you're paying multiple girls anymore than 100 k a piece, you, by their standards, must be rich. The typical Colombian makes about $270 USD a month. And in a poorer barrio, most don't make that.
My comment was to point out that these girls from the Strata 1 and 2 barrios all have plenty of delinquent male friends with lots of time on their hands.
RiceRocket99
02-22-21, 02:40
Ah. Now I remember about that SJobs guy who was going to go to Medellin right when Colombia opened up to international travel back in October and talked about smuggling himself into the country via non traditional means while it was closed off. What happened to him? Is he MIA or something? Just wondering, so I can go MIA too and join him haha. Living in Medellin or anywhere in Colombia or just out of your home country carries significant risks. Lucky for me, I have family / housing in Panama (born there, raised in the States), so if things don't go as planned, I can settle in Panama for a while and put MDE living on the side. It's just that Panama is too damn hot and humid, most everything is expensive since it uses the almighty American dollar, and the hot girls are almost all Colombians anyways and charge 3-4 times more than being in MDE for lesser time and lower standard of service. I call that the triple threat in the worse way possible haha. But it's very close to MDE so I can hop on plane in no time and be in paradise.
And yes, I know by Colombian standards I'm very well off and to them I'll always be a 'rich foreigner', but I def don't flash it and put that out there for everyone to see. Actually by staying in Bello, it would make me poor gringo haha. They would ask why Bello and I can say I have no money for Poblado or Laureles so the only place I can afford is Bello. I even joke I'm out there selling candy and rolling a fruit cart as my side hustle.
Social acceptance is a big deal in these communities. If they've absorbed you as one of their own, fair enough, but that comes at a baseline level of risk which they all live with. As others have said its your decision and you will be the one to pay the price should thing go poorly, so we are all just commentators at the end of the day, not haters, just presenting an opposite perspective in various ways.
As to rich, man get real. You just told us you had an apartment in san francisco, then you told us about the strata 1 chica whose house you went to with her sisters (maybe and often teenagers) openly breastfeeding etc. Can you not see the contrast? You are rich by their standards, and no matter what you say they know that you are decently well off and to them "rich". .
Anyway god luck. As to whether you are SJobs, I am on the fence. Hope you stay and become a valuable contributor so we know how your plans are evolving. Time will tell.
ColombiaLover
02-22-21, 04:03
Old SJobs. What a megalomaniac (just like the real Steve Jobs was).
If he really did exist and was as he described, he's probably dead or kidnapped by the FARC.
If he really does not exist as he described (which many of us suspect), he's sitting in his basement and making up other stories for him to enjoy with whatever new group he's found to bother.
Good riddance either way (not trying to be cold, but that guy was a piece of work).
Ah. Now I remember about that SJobs guy who was going to go to Medellin right when Colombia opened up to international travel back in October and talked about smuggling himself into the country via non traditional means while it was closed off. What happened to him? Is he MIA or something? Just wondering, so I can go MIA too and join him haha. Living in Medellin or anywhere in Colombia or just out of your home country carries significant risks. Lucky for me, I have family / housing in Panama (born there, raised in the States), so if things don't go as planned, I can settle in Panama for a while and put MDE living on the side. It's just that Panama is too damn hot and humid, most everything is expensive since it uses the almighty American dollar, and the hot girls are almost all Colombians anyways and charge 3-4 times more than being in MDE for lesser time and lower standard of service. I call that the triple threat in the worse way possible haha. But it's very close to MDE so I can hop on plane in no time and be in paradise.
And yes, I know by Colombian standards I'm very well off and to them I'll always be a 'rich foreigner', but I def don't flash it and put that out there for everyone to see. Actually by staying in Bello, it would make me poor gringo haha. They would ask why Bello and I can say I have no money for Poblado or Laureles so the only place I can afford is Bello. I even joke I'm out there selling candy and rolling a fruit cart as my side hustle.
RiceRocket99
02-22-21, 04:15
Ok, I'm def not a SJobs type of guy. I've met some members of this board and most recently Osteoknot and before him Jjbee62, so I'm not here to waste people's time and talk mess. I'm sure they can attest to my love and passion for Medellin and all the very good, some bad, and rarely ugly that comes with it.
Old SJobs. What a megalomaniac (just like the real Steve Jobs was).
If he really did exist and was as he described, he's probably dead or kidnapped by the FARC.
If he really does not exist as he described (which many of us suspect), he's sitting in his basement and making up other stories for him to enjoy with whatever new group he's found to bother.
Good riddance either way (not trying to be cold, but that guy was a piece of work).
Ah. Now I remember about that SJobs guy who was going to go to Medellin right when Colombia opened up to international travel back in October and talked about smuggling himself into the country via non traditional means while it was closed off. What happened to him? Is he MIA or something? Just wondering, so I can go MIA too and join him haha. Living in Medellin or anywhere in Colombia or just out of your home country carries significant risks. Lucky for me, I have family / housing in Panama (born there, raised in the States), so if things don't go as planned, I can settle in Panama for a while and put MDE living on the side. It's just that Panama is too damn hot and humid, most everything is expensive since it uses the almighty American dollar, and the hot girls are almost all Colombians anyways and charge 3-4 times more than being in MDE for lesser time and lower standard of service. I call that the triple threat in the worse way possible haha. But it's very close to MDE so I can hop on plane in no time and be in paradise.
And yes, I know by Colombian standards I'm very well off and to them I'll always be a 'rich foreigner', but I def don't flash it and put that out there for everyone to see. Actually by staying in Bello, it would make me poor gringo haha. They would ask why Bello and I can say I have no money for Poblado or Laureles so the only place I can afford is Bello. I even joke I'm out there selling candy and rolling a fruit cart as my side hustle.I see the method to your madness. You make some great points.
ColombiaLover
02-22-21, 04:33
Just to be clear. I am not trying to insult you by comparing you to him. Steve Jobs, real or fake, was overconfident. Reading his name just brought back memories. Nothing to do with you at all.
Ok, I'm def not a SJobs type of guy. I've met some members of this board and most recently Osteoknot and before him Jjbee62, so I'm not here to waste people's time and talk mess. I'm sure they can attest to my love and passion for Medellin and all the very good, some bad, and rarely ugly that comes with it.
So I should not move to Bello?
RiceRocket99
02-22-21, 05:56
I was def not insulted by any means. I always enjoy reading your posts and points of view regarding Medellin. I rarely read or post on this board much, but since being back recently from a 3 month stay in MDE I had time to reflect on life choices haha. I thought I would do this move 10 years down the road, but why wait til then shit. Who knows what would happen in 10 days or weeks, much less 10 years. One thing for sure I'll need after doing some research and the advice given here is to get a good and experienced Colombian attorney well versed in real estate transactions. There's a public site called Espacio Urbano that lists apts / houses for sale and rent that locals use to compare prices within the same barrio since there's no such thing as an MLS in Medellin. I skimmed through it and lots of apts in the 200-250 million pesos range. And I also read some stories regarding shady ass Colombian real estate agents / agencies taking advantage of ill prepared gringos, so yeah I'm def going in armed and dangerous in figurative and legal terms.
Just to be clear. I am not trying to insult you by comparing you to him. Steve Jobs, real or fake, was overconfident. Reading his name just brought back memories. Nothing to do with you at all.
There's a public site called Espacio Urbano that lists apts / houses for sale and rent that locals use to compare prices within the same barrio since there's no such thing as an MLS in Medellin. I skimmed through it and lots of apts in the 200-250 million pesos range.Medellin Guru has an article the shows property prices by square meter of different areas. I think it is based on their own survey. You may want to check it out. I also read there are many new residential towers built in that area. I guess many are estrato 4. I see from the Facebook group that there are a few gringos live in Bello, but not many.
I am actually interested in some restaurants like Arepas y Arepas and street food but have not made the trip north yet.
Ok, I'm def not a SJobs type of guy. I've met some members of this board and most recently Osteoknot and before him Jjbee62, so I'm not here to waste people's time and talk mess. I'm sure they can attest to my love and passion for Medellin and all the very good, some bad, and rarely ugly that comes with it.I'll vouch for you. You seemed comfortable in the environment when I met you. I can probably hook you up with someone who can hook you up with a trustworthy lawyer and real estate guy as well. When you get to that point.
PacoEspanis
02-22-21, 10:03
For the love of mercy gawd help all of us that call Medellin our home.
There are so many venues and options available for chicas in Medellin that maybe in 50,000 years of evolution the men of the future here in Medoland will have evolved into being born with 5 dicks as you need them and more so if you live here.
No where in my life would I have ever thought that I would be turning down young fresh cuties that are being offered to me via friends or friends of friends. Just today talking to my good Colombian buddy as he is in a motel with a cutie and she (a paisa) has her best friend wanting to meet me and I turn it down because I just dropped off my all nighter at her apartment and need to rest.
Oh for the love of god..How do you usually know girls, girls for GFE?
On the street or online?
You have fantastic experiences I hope to go to Colombia soon.
I too am interested in buying something but with the pandemic and work, I have not been able to return since February 2020. My plan is to work remotely from Medellin for a few months a year. I am waiting for my turn to get the vaccine and right after fly down for a month. I will stay at an Arbnb in Laureles but plan to visit and stay in other areas including Bello. I know plenty of girls that live there but I don't want to go with any of them. Can anyone recommend places in Bello? Girl friendly of course but would like to see the apts that are not as well. I don't plan to work and play in the same place in the future. Thanks.
SankarShetty
02-22-21, 15:18
I am a 45 year old guy on my 4th trip to Medellin. I have pondered about making this my first trip to Bogota, finally decided to go the familiar stomping grounds of Medellin. I do not speak Spanish.
Travel.
Entry was interesting. The PCR test was looked over at multiple points in my journey. Did not fill out the migration form and was asked to fill it out at check in. The flight to Medellin was about three fourth's full. Wait at the immigration line was close to an hour.
Hotel.
Took the taxi and paid 80 mil for trip to Laureles. Saint* Peter in Laureles has gone down hill. They are charging 45 a night not doing a good job of upkeeping the apartments. Check was not smooth with some 'not needed' hassle. There was a spa (casa) nearby within 2 blocks called Aisha and is this little gem I enjoyed in multiple trips to Medellin. They have 5-9 girls are are reasonably priced although more than typical centro casa. It was closed, I am not sure if this is permanent. Very disappointed since I have a history with that spa. On one of my previous trips I had a girl from this spa visit my hotel. She also became my GFE provider. I also took her on couple of day trips around the city. She is now in south of the country farming cows!
Need to check out eros and see if there are other spas nearby in Laureles.
Casas and Centro.
I made a casa run yesterday. Saw line up at New life and did not partake but paid the viewing fee. Massages Aiffie had 5 girls and I picked a flaca. Service was disappointing but I did pump and dump. I made multiple walk around for escorts professionals (chicas biliss) based on the map updated by world traveler. I was not able to find it. Then went to sexy amigas and picked Salome. A chubby girl, she is always ready with an enticing smile and top notch sucking ability. I must have had 6-8 sessions with her in the last 3 years. Her service is exemplary for casa girls. She needs to teach her skills all the casa girls in Medellin. The one casa next to sexy amigas was also closed.
There was an excellent restaurant next to new life that had surprisingly great food but it was either permanently closed or not open on weekends.
I walked to Park Botero, saw a few SW. I have asked a girl her price and she said it was 30 K. Did not go with her due being unfamiliar with short time motels around the park. Some police presence. There are certainly hungry dudes following you with their eyes but I do have an advantage of blending in due to my skin color.
Bar Macaraibo was closed. Barra Ejecutiva was open and a beer costs 15 mil pesos and there were only 2 chicks looking too bored. Waste of time. I walked to Nutibara and had lunch there. Food was just okay.
Conejitas was cracking, a good number of girls but a ton of Colombian dudes in early twenties. One or two girls look good for a session. Had a few beers and sat down for an hour. The girl I was eyeing was too busy with other dudes. It was getting dark and I took a taxi back to Laureles.
Fayebook.
The usual, chicks flake a lot. Pricing is up in 6's and 7's, The ones I paid 150 mil are now asking 200. I scheduled 5 girls yesterday to show up starting at 9 AM and spread out the day. The first one showed up and said she lost her ID. Saint P will not let her in. Another girl from Robledo did not bring her ID. For both I put them in a taxi and gave them 50 mil pesos for showing up.
The three that showed up (200 mil each) - a 6 from Bello, a little chubby with cute face. Stayed an hour. A 7 flaca showed up in the evening and performed well. She stayed for a hour and half.
Another stopped by around 10 PM. Been with her before, she has grown more desperate for money. More preoccupied with other things in her life and was just an okay session.
Messaged a few skokka and mileroticos ads, One gave me an address that was next to hotel La Dorado. It looked like a converted hotel with SW on multiple floors. Did a session with a Venezuelan girl. Saw 5 chicas, mostly 5's and 6's.
One senior BM set me up with a flaca Venezualana she is average looking but her performance is top notch. She charges 250 mil pesos but will stay for couple of hours. Thank you PN.
Met up with another BM staying in Poblado and went to Luna. He showed me his FB list, they are mostly 8 and 9. Do not know what he is paying for them.
Luna.
Went to Luna around 10 pm on Friday. About 8 girls in Luna, mostly implants. No one was dancing. Sat for a few minutes and split.
If anyone on ground wants meet up, PM me. I am available this week.
I was def not insulted by any means. I always enjoy reading your posts and points of view regarding Medellin. I rarely read or post on this board much, but since being back recently from a 3 month stay in MDE I had time to reflect on life choices haha. I thought I would do this move 10 years down the road, but why wait til then shit. Who knows what would happen in 10 days or weeks, much less 10 years. One thing for sure I'll need after doing some research and the advice given here is to get a good and experienced Colombian attorney well versed in real estate transactions. There's a public site called Espacio Urbano that lists apts / houses for sale and rent that locals use to compare prices within the same barrio since there's no such thing as an MLS in Medellin. I skimmed through it and lots of apts in the 200-250 million pesos range. And I also read some stories regarding shady ass Colombian real estate agents / agencies taking advantage of ill prepared gringos, so yeah I'm def going in armed and dangerous in figurative and legal terms.The best website in Medellin for finding properties is Fincaraiz, it has a wider data base then the Site you mentioned and you can basically search by barrio, by strata, price, size, similar as to though you were at booking.com looking for a property and it will tell you what the property taxes are as well, the admon fees, the age of the building and contact information. And it's interactive with a map utilizing GPS as well. Your best priced properties will be the older ones, Colombians like new places and they are all more expensive and also be cautious about heat and noise issues along with high admon fees.
Ummmm. A rich gringo wouldn't be staying in Bello and I ain't rich by any means. I don't flaunt money out in the open and the girls I know very well, I also know their families such as their brothers, cousins, and ex boyfriends as well haha. Surprised I haven't been drugged or robbed by any of them yet, maybe they waiting on my next trip and take me out clean. Man too many haters on this board. Oh well, this is my last post on this subject. Cheers everyone! Stay safe and have fun!IMO no poster is hating on you but providing you with educated viewpoints to help with your decision making. Downplaying your "wealth" is challenging since many view Asians as rich (China has the most billionaires) and you are from the USA (maybe the second most billionaires). Many Asian countries are economic powerhouses (Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, etc.) vs Latin America.
In addition, there are numerous hate crimes against Chinese / Asians due to Covid.
Why buy? - it may be more prudent to sign month to month leases.
LoveItHere69
02-22-21, 16:53
Rice.
With a little research you would have posted this in the buying property in Colombia thread and started reading there. I did. Post #314 dated 10-4-20 by NoCal2014. Just maybe you should contact him. Maybe you could start by renting from him.
New home purchase.
Fellas I am in escrow for a 3 bd apartment 19th floor overlooking the pool. It is in Bello at the new mall they are building out there. My plan is to rent it out as best as I can if it's vacant when I get there it will be my hotel room while I visit Medellin. I'm paying $75 k USD / line of credit / cash. I will put 30%down over 24 months and pay half cash half line of credit for the rest. Early 40's is citizen plan to retire in Colombia. My next apartment will be in Envigado or Poblado feel free to ask any questions.
IMO no poster is hating on you but providing you with educated viewpoints to help with your decision making. Downplaying your "wealth" is challenging since many view Asians as rich (China has the most billionaires) and you are from the USA (maybe the second most billionaires). Many Asian countries are economic powerhouses (Japan, South Korea, Hong Kong, etc.) vs Latin America.
In addition, there are numerous hate crimes against Chinese / Asians due to Covid.
Why buy? - it may be more prudent to sign month to month leases.I totally agree with what your saying, although the typical Colombian isn't really cognizant of Asians wealth versus from the USA as all foreigners are considered wealthy, and I doubt Colombians harbor prejudice against Chinese / Asians like elsewhere in the World over COVID.
What's interesting though, is in this poster's case, since he's Asian, he's a babe magnet!
Might sound weird to some, but a few years back I was cruising around El Centro with a friend from South Korea, an American though, and he got lot's and lot's of attention, as most Colombians have never seen an "Asian" in real life, and the girls were all over him. So you top this off with him being a fluent Spanish, and he's in like flint. I was jealous when I was with my friend as he got all the attention, albeit I'm ugly!
RiceRocket99
02-22-21, 21:53
There are a bunch of airbnb apts in Bello (almost all girl friendly). I'll recommend these 3 barrios as I mentioned before for safety, convenience, party atmosphere, and proximity to public transport / super markets: Niquia / Obrero / Las Cabanas. Good luck!
I too am interested in buying something but with the pandemic and work, I have not been able to return since February 2020. My plan is to work remotely from Medellin for a few months a year. I am waiting for my turn to get the vaccine and right after fly down for a month. I will stay at an Arbnb in Laureles but plan to visit and stay in other areas including Bello. I know plenty of girls that live there but I don't want to go with any of them. Can anyone recommend places in Bello? Girl friendly of course but would like to see the apts that are not as well. I don't plan to work and play in the same place in the future. Thanks.
AcesOnTheRiver
02-22-21, 23:37
I am a 45 year old guy on my 4th trip to Medellin. I have pondered about making this my first trip to Bogota, finally decided to go the familiar stomping grounds of Medellin. I do not speak Spanish.
Travel.
Entry was interesting. The PCR test was looked over at multiple points in my journey. Did not fill out the migration form and was asked to fill it out at check in. The flight to Medellin was about three fourth's full. Wait at the immigration line was close to an hour.
Hotel.
Took the taxi and paid 80 mil for trip to Laureles. Saint* Peter in Laureles has gone down hill. They are charging 45 a night not doing a good job of upkeeping the apartments. Check was not smooth with some 'not needed' hassle. There was a spa (casa) nearby within 2 blocks called Aisha and is this little gem I enjoyed in multiple trips to Medellin. They have 5-9 girls are are reasonably priced although more than typical centro casa. It was closed, I am not sure if this is permanent. Very disappointed since I have a history with that spa. On one of my previous trips I had a girl from this spa visit my hotel. She also became my GFE provider. I also took her on couple of day trips around the city. She is now in south of the country farming cows!Thanks! Finally a real report. Tired of 5 pages of reading about bello. Jeez.
RiceRocket99
02-23-21, 00:15
I know about that thread, but barely anyone reads it and I'll be waiting months for responses. Here, there's obviously way more reader traffic, so that's why I posted. And I'm sure there are some out there who are interested in this information, but I know everyone here is more interested in chica info. I prefer not to contact BMs directly unless I am ready to dive in. I'm just in the beginning stage. I think someone just posted a TR, so there you go. Ask and it shall be given.
Rice.
With a little research you would have posted this in the buying property in Colombia thread and started reading there. I did. Post #314 dated 10-4-20 by NoCal2014. Just maybe you should contact him. Maybe you could start by renting from him.
New home purchase.
Fellas I am in escrow for a 3 bd apartment 19th floor overlooking the pool. It is in Bello at the new mall they are building out there. My plan is to rent it out as best as I can if it's vacant when I get there it will be my hotel room while I visit Medellin. I'm paying $75 k USD / line of credit / cash. I will put 30%down over 24 months and pay half cash half line of credit for the rest. Early 40's is citizen plan to retire in Colombia. My next apartment will be in Envigado or Poblado feel free to ask any questions.
JohnnyWalker55
02-23-21, 01:43
I am a 45 year old guy on my 4th trip to Medellin. I have pondered about making this my first trip to Bogota, finally decided to go the familiar stomping grounds of Medellin. I do not speak Spanish.
Travel.
Entry was interesting. The PCR test was looked over at multiple points in my journey. Did not fill out the migration form and was asked to fill it out at check in. The flight to Medellin was about three fourth's full. Wait at the immigration line was close to an hour.
Hotel.
Took the taxi and paid 80 mil for trip to Laureles. Saint* Peter in Laureles has gone down hill. They are charging 45 a night not doing a good job of upkeeping the apartments. Check was not smooth with some 'not needed' hassle. There was a spa (casa) nearby within 2 blocks called Aisha and is this little gem I enjoyed in multiple trips to Medellin. They have 5-9 girls are are reasonably priced although more than typical centro casa. It was closed, I am not sure if this is permanent. Very disappointed since I have a history with that spa. On one of my previous trips I had a girl from this spa visit my hotel. She also became my GFE provider. I also took her on couple of day trips around the city. She is now in south of the country farming cows!
Need to check out eros and see if there are other spas nearby in Laureles.
Casas and Centro.
I made a casa run yesterday. Saw line up at New life and did not partake but paid the viewing fee. Massages Aiffie had 5 girls and I picked a flaca. Service was disappointing but I did pump and dump. I made multiple walk around for escorts professionals (chicas biliss) based on the map updated by world traveler. I was not able to find it. Then went to sexy amigas and picked Salome. A chubby girl, she is always ready with an enticing smile and top notch sucking ability. I must have had 6-8 sessions with her in the last 3 years. Her service is exemplary for casa girls. She needs to teach her skills all the casa girls in Medellin. The one casa next to sexy amigas was also closed.
There was an excellent restaurant next to new life that had surprisingly great food but it was either permanently closed or not open on weekends.
I walked to Park Botero, saw a few SW. I have asked a girl her price and she said it was 30 K. Did not go with her due being unfamiliar with short time motels around the park. Some police presence. There are certainly hungry dudes following you with their eyes but I do have an advantage of blending in due to my skin color.
Bar Macaraibo was closed. Barra Ejecutiva was open and a beer costs 15 mil pesos and there were only 2 chicks looking too bored. Waste of time. I walked to Nutibara and had lunch there. Food was just okay.
Conejitas was cracking, a good number of girls but a ton of Colombian dudes in early twenties. One or two girls look good for a session. Had a few beers and sat down for an hour. The girl I was eyeing was too busy with other dudes. It was getting dark and I took a taxi back to Laureles.
Fayebook.
The usual, chicks flake a lot. Pricing is up in 6's and 7's, The ones I paid 150 mil are now asking 200. I scheduled 5 girls yesterday to show up starting at 9 AM and spread out the day. The first one showed up and said she lost her ID. Saint P will not let her in. Another girl from Robledo did not bring her ID. For both I put them in a taxi and gave them 50 mil pesos for showing up.
The three that showed up (200 mil each) - a 6 from Bello, a little chubby with cute face. Stayed an hour. A 7 flaca showed up in the evening and performed well. She stayed for a hour and half.
Another stopped by around 10 PM. Been with her before, she has grown more desperate for money. More preoccupied with other things in her life and was just an okay session.
Messaged a few skokka and mileroticos ads, One gave me an address that was next to hotel La Dorado. It looked like a converted hotel with SW on multiple floors. Did a session with a Venezuelan girl. Saw 5 chicas, mostly 5's and 6's.
One senior BM set me up with a flaca Venezualana she is average looking but her performance is top notch. She charges 250 mil pesos but will stay for couple of hours. Thank you PN.
Met up with another BM staying in Poblado and went to Luna. He showed me his FB list, they are mostly 8 and 9. Do not know what he is paying for them.
Luna.
Went to Luna around 10 pm on Friday. About 8 girls in Luna, mostly implants. No one was dancing. Sat for a few minutes and split.
If anyone on ground wants meet up, PM me. I am available this week.Did you mean salome from dulce compania on calle 58 carr 45 d? Bcz there's a chubby salome there with an amazing smile and great BJ skills I've seen half a dozen times. Hahaha.
Routine is going nice, dick is starting to get sore from all the sex.
Settled into sw around 10 -11 am, casa at 3-4 pm, strip club at 8-9 pm. This way I am able to nut everytime.
Haven't had a bad casa experience yet, all very GFE and welcoming. Sessioned at casa paris today with vanessa, thicc 5 ft paisa amazing ass and GFE.
Been loving grill nueva avenida, a lot more "homie feel" than conejitas where they have been mechanical. Ofc, buying the chick a drink or two and chatting for 15 min before is KEY in the sex chemistry ime.
The rotation has been conejitas (though I'm liking it a lot less), bar maracaibo, grill nueva avenida, taberna hilton, grill ocidental. taberna victoria sucks ass.
Jenny last night at casa hilton tried selling me coke after, I declined. She's tatted up and stuff, like 5 ft and has a lip/nose piercing. go to her if you want a connect. Though I'm sure half that place sells it hahaha.
It's funny, the closer you get to ground zero, the less masks you see. Behind veracruz is basically a free for all, like before covid.
Went with a MILF India sw from bucaramanga today, she looks India about 5 ft and hangs out with the other MILF with blonde hair green eyes along the glass walkway that has a killer body, can't miss her. Ill smash her tomorrow. Great service. 40 k sesh.
I am a 45 year old guy on my 4th trip to Medellin. I have pondered about making this my first trip to Bogota, finally decided to go the familiar stomping grounds of Medellin. I do not speak Spanish.
Travel.
Entry was interesting. The PCR test was looked over at multiple points in my journey. Did not fill out the migration form and was asked to fill it out at check in. The flight to Medellin was about three fourth's full. Wait at the immigration line was close to an hour.
Hotel.
Took the taxi and paid 80 mil for trip to Laureles. Saint* Peter in Laureles has gone down hill. They are charging 45 a night not doing a good job of upkeeping the apartments. Check was not smooth with some 'not needed' hassle. There was a spa (casa) nearby within 2 blocks called Aisha and is this little gem I enjoyed in multiple trips to Medellin. They have 5-9 girls are are reasonably priced although more than typical centro casa. It was closed, I am not sure if this is permanent. Very disappointed since I have a history with that spa. On one of my previous trips I had a girl from this spa visit my hotel. Nice report Shankar!! Keep the reviews coming.
Did you mean to say San Peter is charging $45 USD nowadays? It used to be 140000 COP during my last visit in 2019.
Please throw some light on the "not needed" hassle.
I would have chose Ayenda rooms but the only thing lacking is safebox in the rooms which made my choice lean towards San Peters.
Do they accept Credit card now?
Fisrt thing after check in I used to hit Aisha spa. Sad. Hope it reopens soon.
Between bar Ejecutive (open) and bar Maracaibo (closed) there's a garage, and in the back of it, hidden behind a little four foot entry door is a place calling itself VIP club. If a spotter on the street invites you in, go for it. The club is apparently being run under the radar. It's new, not too big, there's a party vibe, and nicely stocked with chicas. Beer only 8 k.
Lucky Nuts
02-23-21, 03:24
Nice report Shankar!! Keep the reviews coming.
Did you mean to say San Peter is charging $45 USD nowadays? It used to be 140000 COP during my last visit in 2019.
Please throw some light on the "not needed" hassle.
I would have chose Ayenda rooms but the only thing lacking is safebox in the rooms which made my choice lean towards San Peters.
Do they accept Credit card now?
Fisrt thing after check in I used to hit Aisha spa. Sad. Hope it reopens soon.A friend told me he rented at San Peter pretty cheap last week via airbnb. Like less than $30 per night. But that's one of the center units facing Setenta.
Welp, they robbed more foreigners at another hotel in El Poblado this week. Don't all you Lleras guys show up in El Centro at once. It is much more dangerous at Parque Botero.
https://vivirenelpoblado.com/robo-a-turistas-extranjeros-en-hoteles-de-el-poblado/Another robbery, this time caught on video. Search for "Prensa Paisa" on Facebook to watch it.
LoveItHere69
02-23-21, 05:19
Corner of Carrera 53 and Calle 51 (walkway on side of the Veracruz church). Girls in front of the yellow restaurant. Met another girl standing in front of the restaurant wanting paid first (which I did not do) and not to touch her boobs. Killed the mood so had to start and finish in doggie only. She had braces.
I noticed a familiar face from Bogota from last year. I had a guy I know ask her if she worked Santa Fe Bogota last year and the answer has a 'yes'. I remember her because she had a cute baby face but she would not take her shirt off which caused problems and she wanted paid upfront. I think I gave her half just to get her out the door. I noticed she either brought her BF from Bogota or found a new one. So that makes 3 horrible girls standing in front of that yellow corner restaurant which is now a dead zone for me. The girls on the side seem fine.
Another robbery, this time caught on video. Search for "Prensa Paisa" on Facebook to watch it.Can't find it.
VsebudetNY
02-23-21, 05:46
Another robbery, this time caught on video. Search for "Prensa Paisa" on Facebook to watch it.That's disturbing. Here is the actual link:
https://fb.watch/3QgPDjph2G/
SankarShetty
02-23-21, 07:23
Did you mean salome from dulce compania on calle 58 carr 45 d? Bcz there's a chubby salome there with an amazing smile and great BJ skills I've seen half a dozen times. Hahaha.
Routine is going nice, dick is starting to get sore from all the sex.
Settled into sw around 10 -11 am, casa at 3-4 pm, strip club at 8-9 pm. This way I am able to nut everytime.
Haven't had a bad casa experience yet, all very GFE and welcoming.Yes. It was Dulce Compania.
That's disturbing. Here is the actual link:
https://fb.watch/3QgPDjph2G/Was that at a fairly "safe" place?
Lucky Nuts
02-23-21, 08:32
Was that at a fairly "safe" place?Ain't no safe place in Medellin standing next to a guy wearing gold.
Look like you're more trouble than you are worth and that doesn't mean you look like much trouble.
Was that at a fairly "safe" place?It depends. It that were The Tall Man, the guy with gun would not be "safe". The moment he touched The Tall Man, he would be sent flying to squash the guy on the motorcycle.
Mojo Bandit
02-23-21, 10:30
That's disturbing. Here is the actual link:
https://fb.watch/3QgPDjph2G/That was disturbing, there is (or was last time I was there) an armed security guard in that building too. What I wonder though is how that went down, Did two guys just come riding by on the motor cycle and see them and decide to stop, They had to be hanging outside for a while and they had their bags. Maybe waiting for a taxi?
That's disturbing. Here is the actual link:
https://fb.watch/3QgPDjph2G/Wow that's pretty scary. From watching a lot of YouTube videos you are clearly more vulnerable in transient spaces which is what I try to avoid. When I moved out of San Peter to another apartment I agreed to meet the dude at 2 pm. The main door is street access and he was not there, then he starts asking if I am there or not?? I was standing on the street like those 2 dudes with all my possessions feeling extremely paranoid and panicky. I started to get really mad at the dude demanding he come immediately. I found a cafe across the street and waited it out there until he arrived 30 minutes later. Looking back I should have left my things in San Peter longer until I actually had the keys to my new gaff. Anyway thanks for posting the vid as it is a good reminder of how things can go very wrong.
OK class, what did we learn from the video about isolated spaces and pairs of males on motorcycles?
Wow that's pretty scary. From watching a lot of YouTube videos you are clearly more vulnerable in transient spaces which is what I try to avoid. When I moved out of San Peter to another apartment I agreed to meet the dude at 2 pm. The main door is street access and he was not there, then he starts asking if I am there or not?? I was standing on the street like those 2 dudes with all my possessions feeling extremely paranoid and panicky. I started to get really mad at the dude demanding he come immediately. I found a cafe across the street and waited it out there until he arrived 30 minutes later. Looking back I should have left my things in San Peter longer until I actually had the keys to my new gaff. Anyway thanks for posting the vid as it is a good reminder of how things can go very wrong.
Just Incognito
02-23-21, 13:33
But: why would anyone stand outside anywhere in Medellin with suitcases and bags that make it obvious you are either just coming from or going to an airport? Why not wait just inside the doors for your ride?
Where as hotel security? Maybe they were legit. Occupied?? But why wouldn't they tell these dudes not to wait outside with all of their stuff? I assume they were leaving for the airport-because if they were just arriving-why stand outside at al and not just go straight in?
I just can't imagine myself ever standing outside anywhere in Medellin with all my stuff-like travel bags / suitcases like that.
Also, why would any gringo where a watch or any jewelry at al in Colombia? Heck, I don't eve wear or bring my sunglasses anywhere in Colombia! -the locals aren't all liking around with shades on-so why would I?
Seems like 2 guys just driving by see an easy and obvious target and took advantage. This could have been avoided be waiting inside with their luggage. Isn't that obvious?
That was disturbing, there is (or was last time I was there) an armed security guard in that building too. What I wonder though is how that went down, Did two guys just come riding by on the motor cycle and see them and decide to stop, They had to be hanging outside for a while and they had their bags. Maybe waiting for a taxi?
My guess is these guys were waiting at a rear or side entrance. The main entrance of any hotel, even Centro fleabags, is manned and sometimes has armed security. The security camera is there to collect evidence and prevent an armed group catching the hotel off guard.
It's all about the opportunity of isolation for these roving stick up boys. Notice how the guy with the helmet felt confident enough to leave the motorcycle to assist his confederate. Some of you have likely taken the airport bus to and from San Diego or Centro. At any time of day or night you won't have problems waiting for the bus or transferring from it to a taxi because there are other passengers, the Combus employees, and often policemen. If you ever find yourself in an area where there is no one else you need to be hyper vigilant and focused on getting away to where there are other people. This applies even more so if you have all your luggage with you because it's a red flag to criminals that you have valuables with you. After all, no one leaves their valuables (the report mentioned jewelry was stolen along with cash and mobile phones) in a room or apartment when they arrive or leave with luggage.
That was disturbing, there is (or was last time I was there) an armed security guard in that building too. What I wonder though is how that went down, Did two guys just come riding by on the motor cycle and see them and decide to stop, They had to be hanging outside for a while and they had their bags. Maybe waiting for a taxi?
That's disturbing. Here is the actual link:
https://fb.watch/3QgPDjph2G/We all want nice things and we on ISG can work for them. Some dudes desire the same things we want but don't want to work for them or cannot get jobs. I have travelled all over the western hemisphere and honestly the country I felt safest was Cuba.
Mr Enternational
02-23-21, 14:40
When I moved out of San Peter to another apartment I agreed to meet the dude at 2 pm. The main door is street access and he was not there, then he starts asking if I am there or not?? I was standing on the street like those 2 dudes with all my possessions feeling extremely paranoid and panicky.Man if you are feeling like that in front of San Peter, then you better not go anywhere near Santa Fe.
They were wearing the "I AM A TOURIST, PLEASE COME ROB ME" uniform: Flip flops and shorts. You cannot be THAT obvious when traveling around Colombia. Dress like a local and stop showing off your expensive wares. If you show it, they WILLL take it.
That's disturbing. Here is the actual link:
https://fb.watch/3QgPDjph2G/
GeneHickman
02-23-21, 15:40
Those dudes were certainly feeling safe. No way they should have been wearing any stuff, but irrespective he would have hit them for the cell phones which seem to be a big target there. If I had a $ for every time a chica said her phone was stolen.
The robbers appeared 1/2 the size of those well fed gringos but the gun tilted the balance immediately. They did the right thing. These are quick hit and runs and typical of the sort of robberies you can face if not your day. Yes security is there but they barely had time to react, and honestly that could have made things worse. Their mistake was waiting on the street. There is little downside to just waiting in your room, or atleast in the foyer.
Once I was walking from the energy buildong where a buddy was staying to the blux at night and I saw these two dudes standing next to a motorcycle across the road at the strip mall on the opposite side. I continued to walk rapidly and as soon as I was turning the corner, I saw one of the guys starting to cross the road like 50 m or so behind me, so once I was around the bend, I started to break into a gentle jog downhill, and was in the blux building in no time. That was the last time I walked between the two buildings after dark.
EducationFund
02-23-21, 17:25
They were wearing the "I AM A TOURIST, PLEASE COME ROB ME" uniform: Flip flops and shorts. You cannot be THAT obvious when traveling around Colombia. Dress like a local and stop showing off your expensive wares. If you show it, they WILLL take it.Newbie here, preparing for my first trip.
Does anyone have a packing list for what to pack and wear to fit in with locals during the day (jeans, Nikes, and t-shirts or polo shirts?) and for going out at night for dinner and dancing? Dressing to not attract the thieves or repel the ladies. .
Mr Enternational
02-23-21, 18:03
If I had a $ for every time a chica said her phone was stolen.Did you tell them they should stop wearing shorts and flip-flops?
Does anyone have a packing list for what to pack and wear to fit in with locals during the day (jeans, Nikes, and t-shirts or polo shirts?) and for going out at night for dinner and dancing? Dressing to not attract the thieves or repel the ladies. .It does not matter. Blending in is a fantasy. Nobody is robbing on the basis that the person is not fitting in. Locals get robbed too. Robbers would starve to death if they were just depending on unsuspecting tourists. What did it matter if the tourists that were robbed inside of their hotel rooms recently were wearing karate uniforms or kilts?
Heads up with registering with Migracion for entry into the Country. I just tried to register for entry into Colombia on a flight Wednesday morning from FLL to MDE on Jetblue and it didn't recognize the flight and perhaps it was because the flight number was two digits. I attempted this in English and when I tried registering in Spanish, it recognized the flight, and I was able to register and got an E mail verification. This may not be an issue for others.
Did you tell them they should stop wearing shorts and flip-flops?
It does not matter. Blending in is a fantasy. Nobody is robbing on the basis that the person is not fitting in. Locals get robbed too. Robbers would starve to death if they were just depending on unsuspecting tourists. What did it matter if the tourists that were robbed inside of their hotel rooms recently were wearing karate uniforms or kilts?Cmon Mr. E, you don't think a guy with blonde hair and blue eyes doesn't make a difference. And contrary to what you think, some foreigners can blend in, making them less of a target, versus an obvious foreigner, like a guy with blonde hair and blue eyes. And the robbers know which are better targets, and yes the locals do get robbed, I agree.
I agree with you.
Has much as I love Medellin, one must always play it safe. Doesn't matter how you dress or look.
You should always be cautious. Although I do feel the hotel security really sucks.
Did you tell them they should stop wearing shorts and flip-flops?
It does not matter. Blending in is a fantasy. Nobody is robbing on the basis that the person is not fitting in. Locals get robbed too. Robbers would starve to death if they were just depending on unsuspecting tourists. What did it matter if the tourists that were robbed inside of their hotel rooms recently were wearing karate uniforms or kilts?
Mr Enternational
02-23-21, 18:57
Cmon Mr. E, you don't think a guy with blonde hair and blue eyes doesn't make a difference. And contrary to what you think, some foreigners can blend in, making them less of a target, versus an obvious foreigner, like a guy with blonde hair and blue eyes.Not at all. I think it is a total fallacy. I have never considered myself as blending in anywhere and I have never been a target that I know of. Robbers are not ridding around saying let's get the guy that is different.
Whenever I meet guys from ISG in Santa Fe or downtown Medellin, nobody would mistake any of us for being locals, not even at first glance. And still we are having no problems in these places. Just like RR in Bello. He is of Asian decent and most certainly not blending in there, but nobody is fucking with him. How many locals have been robbed in Bello?
It's easy, look at any youtube video for Medellin neighborhoods and compare what the people are wearing with what you plan to bring.
Newbie here, preparing for my first trip.
Does anyone have a packing list for what to pack and wear to fit in with locals during the day (jeans, Nikes, and t-shirts or polo shirts?) and for going out at night for dinner and dancing? Dressing to not attract the thieves or repel the ladies..
RudeBwoy100
02-23-21, 20:03
Tourist getting robbed in broad daylight shows that these guys are getting desperate. Coronavirus + desperate, hungry people makes me feel that skipping Colombia in 2021 is the smart move.
We will be arriving from 2/25-3/5. Thank you everyone for all your info and input. We will be staying at M1 any advice or input is greatly appreciated. We have all been to Costa Rica and Sosua in the past but needed a change of scenery.
VsebudetNY
02-23-21, 20:57
That's disturbing. Here is the actual link:
https://fb.watch/3QgPDjph2G/Energy's security reviewing the recording from another camera showing motorcycle's license plate:
https://www.facebook.com/553689208334234/videos/514560689510080
Man if you are feeling like that in front of San Peter, then you better not go anywhere near Santa Fe.Mr E, as I mentioned in my post I was moving out of San Peter to the other place with direct street access and he did not show up. I was not waiting outside San P feeling unsafe but the place I was moving to. As per my previous reports I have been all over Centro at all times day and night including Raudaul. At the time I was waiting on the street I felt unsafe because I had everything including passport, all my cards and main phone etc which I would never normally carry out with me.
Anyway I do plan to visit Santa Fe and reckon it will be fun.
For the record I feel slightly safer due to the fact that I feel I blend in. Most countries I go to they think I'm actually a local due to my darker skin complexion, Mexico, Morocco and someone even said I could pass for been Colombian. This does not mean I let my guard down though.
Not at all. I think it is a total fallacy. I have never considered myself as blending in anywhere and I have never been a target that I know of. Robbers are not ridding around saying let's get the guy that is different.
Whenever I meet guys from ISG in Santa Fe or downtown Medellin, nobody would mistake any of us for being locals, not even at first glance. And still we are having no problems in these places. Just like RR in Bello. He is of Asian decent and most certainly not blending in there, but nobody is fucking with him. How many locals have been robbed in Bello?I'm in disbelief from where your coming from, and foreigners that stick out like a sore thumb and venture off where they shouldn't be, and even in heavy travelled / tourist locations are prime targets.
I've been told by Colombians that I can pass as a Colombian, and I know there are others on this board as well who can blend when our mouths are shut. Case in point, early last year I was walking behind the Veracruz Church where all the bars are, and an obvious gringo was walking about twenty feet in front of me, and lots of people looked at him, and some of the girls came up to him, tried to talk him up, yet when I went by nobody gave me a second look.
So it's not really a fallacy, some guys can blend in, and I honestly consider myself very lucky being able to stay under the radar when walking around El Centro.
Tourist getting robbed in broad daylight shows that these guys are getting desperate. Coronavirus + desperate, hungry people makes me feel that skipping Colombia in 2021 is the smart move.The truth of the matter is that tourists and locals have been getting robbed since the beginning of time, and skipping Medellin expecting not to be robbed in a tourist area during daylight will still be happening once COVID is in the rear mirror.
If that is your criteria for visiting or not then you should have skipped the past 10 years. If you search vimeo and youtube you will find hundreds of hours of similar videos. This is nothing new. Anyone who imagines it is new will be at greater risk of being victimized. You've been to Colombia so you know what precautions to take. Take it from me, it's not substantially more risky than it was pre coronavirus. I will say this, the volume and intensity of panhandling shot up noticeably since last March. Obviously there is a big difference between panhandling and stick ups.
Tourist getting robbed in broad daylight shows that these guys are getting desperate. Coronavirus + desperate, hungry people makes me feel that skipping Colombia in 2021 is the smart move.
Cmon Mr. E, you don't think a guy with blonde hair and blue eyes doesn't make a difference. And contrary to what you think, some foreigners can blend in, making them less of a target, versus an obvious foreigner, like a guy with blonde hair and blue eyes. And the robbers know which are better targets, and yes the locals do get robbed, I agree.What makes a difference is if he has a chain, watch, expensive phone, or in this case luggage. You don't necessarily need to blend in, but you don't want to appear to be a juicy target. Unfortunately, these guys with their luggage were a juicy target. I don't know the solution other than to not be on the street with luggage, though that's not always easy.
Tourist getting robbed in broad daylight shows that these guys are getting desperate. Coronavirus + desperate, hungry people makes me feel that skipping Colombia in 2021 is the smart move.Yup. Very desperate situation in Colombia and all over the World. Crime is way up against locals just as much as against tourists.
What makes a difference is if he has a chain, watch, expensive phone, or in this case luggage. You don't necessarily need to blend in, but you don't want to appear to be a juicy target. Unfortunately, these guys with their luggage were a juicy target. I don't know the solution other than to not be on the street with luggage, though that's not always easy.
Yup. Very desperate situation in Colombia and all over the World. Crime is way up against locals just as much as against tourists.It has been reported several times on FB group that people were robbed while waiting outside for Uber or just getting out of Uber in El Poblado, mainly in quite street. El Poblado seems to have a higher probability to be robbed at gun point compared to elsewhere whether you have luggage or not. Wait for your taxi or Uber inside until the car comes.
If you are the robber, where would you go to find bigger and better target? Bello or El Poblado?
That there is a bias here toward the fashionista flacca chica. And I also like Big Butts. I like 'them all, tall, short, fat, skinny, dark, light. Not so old, though, jaja. When these two flacca fashionistas showed up, Flame and Vicki Secret, a good time was had by all. I would not be surprised if there were not at least 20 mongers here who recognize both of these busy working girls, who are are pure professionals, in the best sense. Standard rates. I never met a hot chica here yet who was not obsessed with taking selfies. ChocoThick is the super camera-shy chica in the one foto. They are all bisexual. Actually, I believe they are all lesbians but do it with guys like me strictly for the caja.
The Tall Man
02-24-21, 04:08
It depends. It that were The Tall Man, the guy with gun would not be "safe". The moment he touched The Tall Man, he would be sent flying to squash the guy on the motorcycle.Yes I would, actually that punk would not bother me as in this culture Size Matters and they know from their early school days that you just don't fuck with big dudes, News Flash!
They instinctively know that guys like me would get medieval on their ass so what do they do? Well they look for 2 idiots like these guys in the video, shorts with fucking white socks and wearing plastic clock slippers, prancing around like they are 2 maricon looking to for their next butt buddies, wearing jewelry and not having an ounce of self-awareness, 2 scrawny looking millenniums completely out of their element.
Just saying it like it is.
The Tall Man.
That there is a bias here toward the fashionista flacca chica. And I also like Big Butts. I like 'them all, tall, short, fat, skinny, dark, light. Not so old, though, jaja. When these two flacca fashionistas showed up, Flame and Vicki Secret, a good time was had by all. I would not be surprised if there were not at least 20 mongers here who recognize both of these busy working girls, who are are pure professionals, in the best sense. Standard rates. I never met a hot chica here yet who was not obsessed with taking selfies. ChocoThick is the super camera-shy chica in the one foto. They are all bisexual. Actually, I believe they are all lesbians but do it with guys like me strictly for the caja.The shorty with the red hair looks fire.
The shorty with the red hair looks fire.That's why I call her Flame. She is hot as fuck. That and her hair. The last foto, that's me in the corner, that's me in the spotlight. I taught Flame how to walk on my back Geisha style. She must weigh 43 kg. I threw in 2 fotos of my ex to make it an even ten. She could Rock the Casbah. And one Cat Girl ass foto. I'm going to buy Cat Girl a Yamaha today. That's going to be a fuckin Holy Terror on Wheels, jajajajaa. What time is it? Fuk the order of the fotos.
Sabaneta is nice, but a lot of the apartments are up some nasty hills. Cabanas is nice. Some great little local restaurants and quiet neighborhoods up there.Any advice for a first timer in mde, staying for a month. I been trying to catchup on all this pages threads. I'm.
New here but not a first time monger, been around Europe and the FKK clubs. I getting mixed review on where to stay, I was consider the gringo area of Poblado or Laureles.
"Obrero / Niquia / Cabanas are the top 3 barrios on my list in Bello. Hot chicks just everywhere, even after all these years in MDE, girls in Bello just on a different level. Sabaneta in the south is also on my list. ".
Should stay in bello, I was thinking one week in at the blux in Poblado, but I been reading on the robberies. I used to be a FDNY firefighter and I have the basic street smarts. Any advice would be appreciate and if anyone would like to show me around, I'll get us a round, safety in numbers.
Appreciate everyone's threads and input.
...So it's not really a fallacy, some guys can blend in, and I honestly consider myself very lucky being able to stay under the radar when walking around El Centro.Some gringos can blend in much easier than others. A 5 foot 6 inch dark haired gringo can blend in much easier than a 6 foot plus blond.
Good morning gents,
Just got back from my first visit to Medellin and I'd first like to thank everyone for their informative posts. I had a few months to plan, and even rescheduled a December trip when Medellin went on weekend lockdowns, but the Facebook tips given my numerous members were really helpful. I was able to get enough of the right friends so when I got to Medellin I was spoiled for choice. I've been to Pattaya 3 times and Tijuana numerous times, but never Medellin before. So, I'm sure I made some mistakes that I'll correct on my next visit. My Spanish is fairly awful. I can read it okay, but listening and speaking it are areas I can improve upon.
Flew down on AA on Wednesday and just chilled after 10 hours in transit. Stayed at Lleras 10 in Poblado and it was just okay at best. Definitely a 2-star hotel. My room basically had no windows. But the internet connection was good and I was able to get some work done throughout the day. However, it was a $70 k joiner fee after the first guest of the day. The caveat to that is that you get 1 guest for each new front desk attendant as they apparently don't keep track. I only ended up paying 1 extra fee over 5 days.
On Thursday I set up 3 FB chicas during breaks from work. The first was a disaster. Stupidly, I had not made it clear in out communications that I expected BBBJ. Negotiated for $200 k plus taxi. When She arrived, she was cute enough. Popped open some rum for her (the local Don Medellin is really good) and after she finished her glass we got going. First sign of trouble was when she asked for the condom before we even started. No BBBJ nor even a blowjob. After a few minutes I lost interest and sent her home. Just wasn't feeling it and didn't want to waste my time. Cute girl, just too young and restrictive.
Next up was a chick that messaged on WhatsApp from her friend's phone. It was 3 pm and I told her I was leaving at 5, but if she wanted to come over now, I was game. In actuality, I had another chica coming at 5. Made sure not to repeat my error and confirmed BBBJ. She finally arrived at 4:15. Had the obligatory drink and then she started an amazing BBBJ. 15 minutes later the phone rings and the next chica has arrived 15 minutes early. Whoops! Finished en la boca with one amd messaged the other that I'the be down in 20 minutes. 250 k including taxis.
Needed to relax a little with number 3. Again, the obligatory rum cocktail and then off to the races. I had been a bit more detailed with this one about what I wanted and she did not disappoint. An hour later I was satisfied and she left. Again $250 k including taxis.
Headed out to dinner with a friend who has a non-pro Colombian GF and she brought one of her friends that speaks some English. She was also really hot. At least a 7-8. Tried the sushi place next to Gustos. The Parque Lleras crowd was in full swing. Ended up at Gustos to do some dancing. Have to say it was very interesting there. Gringos sitting at the bar with chicas standing behind them. These guys could never have even gotten the time of day from the same women in the US. Definitely some 9's in the crowd. My wingman's chica said her friend was interested so I did not inquire about pricing for Gustos or Parque Lleras chicas. But they were definitely plentiful and gorgeous.
My last night ended up at La Isla. It's okay, but the crowd at Gustos was probably hotter overall IMO. Lots of fake asses at La Isla, some of which were so fake it was like a plastic surgery horror story.
Overall, I enjoyed Medellin and will be back. I didn't feel unsafe, although I didn't venture more that 2-3 blocks from the hotel with the exception of a cab to La Isla. The chicas were plentiful and gorgeous. It kind of felt like a smaller city though, with the different barrios. It's completely different than my prior experience in Thailand. FB is your friend. Just look at past posts about building your friend list and you'll be golden when you get there. I did not venture to El Centro, but that's not my scene anyways.
I had a long reply typed up but lost it due to system maintence LOL.
The long and short. Don't stay in Bello! Read the forum as much as you can and no dar papaya.
Any advice for a first timer in mde, staying for a month. I been trying to catchup on all this pages threads. I'm.
New here but not a first time monger, been around Europe and the FKK clubs. I getting mixed review on where to stay, I was consider the gringo area of Poblado or Laureles.
"Obrero / Niquia / Cabanas are the top 3 barrios on my list in Bello. Hot chicks just everywhere, even after all these years in MDE, girls in Bello just on a different level. Sabaneta in the south is also on my list. ".
Should stay in bello, I was thinking one week in at the blux in Poblado, but I been reading on the robberies. I used to be a FDNY firefighter and I have the basic street smarts. Any advice would be appreciate and if anyone would like to show me around, I'll get us a round, safety in numbers.
Appreciate everyone's threads and input.
I went to Cendiatra (https://cendiatra.com/) this morning to get the antigen test for returning to the US. I went to the clinic in Laureles, Cra 80 #44B-91, no appointment. They also have a clinic in Aguacatala (downtown), Cra 47C #105-04. The cost is 50 mil. I arrived at 8 am, and was finished at 8:20. They gave me the option to wait for the result or have it emailed. I chose email. The result was in my mailbox at 9:03 am. The swab test was more uncomfortable than what I got in Florida, but bearable. Overall, it was a good experience. They were very tolerate with my lack of Spanish.
That's why I call her Flame. She is hot as fuck. That and her hair. The last foto, that's me in the corner, that's me in the spotlight. I taught Flame how to walk on my back Geisha style. She must weigh 43 kg. I threw in 2 fotos of my ex to make it an even ten. She could Rock the Casbah. And one Cat Girl ass foto. I'm going to buy Cat Girl a Yamaha today. That's going to be a fuckin Holy Terror on Wheels, jajajajaa. What time is it? Fuk the order of the fotos.I guess Flame is a Venezuelan. Did you pick her up in Centro?
I went to Cendiatra (https://cendiatra.com/) this morning to get the antigen test for returning to the US. I went to the clinic in Laureles, Cra 80 #44B-91, no appointment. They also have a clinic in Aguacatala (downtown), Cra 47C #105-04. The cost is 50 mil. I arrived at 8 am, and was finished at 8:20. They gave me the option to wait for the result or have it emailed. I chose email. The result was in my mailbox at 9:03 am. The swab test was more uncomfortable than what I got in Florida, but bearable. Overall, it was a good experience. They were very tolerate with my lack of Spanish.I had mine at the airport MDE, 80 k for antigen test. Walk-in, very efficient. Forty minutes for result, after which I went inside and bought ticket for the next flight for Bogota.
SlapShot10
02-24-21, 19:13
So, the story goes.
2 Puerto Rican New Yorkers, just arriving from MDE. Not sure why they were lingering, outside, but maybe sending messages to their landlord about check-in. I stayed at Energy, once, and like any building, there were times when the portero was taking a piss, back in the office, not paying attention, etc.
I've got to imagine this was a setup by their airport taxi. So, take that how you will. They definitely had the gringo costumes on, though. That's why you wear a curved bill. To see fast-approaching ladrones! Of course, I don't expect a measly-paid portero to come running out and take one in the chest, but it's strange as to why they even paused outside the entrance.
I think we've all seen plenty of guys that come from the same cookie cutter, and have been lucky enough to not have this happen. I can't remember the last time I wore a watch in Medellin, something I would do daily in the US; and a watch has an actual function, unlike a big fucking necklace.
Mr Enternational
02-24-21, 20:15
The last foto, that's me in the corner, that's me in the spotlight. I'm going to buy Cat Girl a Yamaha today.You have definitely lost your religion with that one.
I've got to imagine this was a setup by their airport taxi.Interesting. Indeed it could be that.
My first thought was the thieves monitor taxis arriving to Energy and other higher end buildings in Poblado. As you said, such hick ups do often happen. I waited to be let in more than once not because the porter wasn't there, but because the porter needed some kind of doc from the host. I guess the best thing to do is to hang close to the porteria or better have your taxi drive inside with all your shit if that is an option.
Yes I would, actually that punk would not bother me as in this culture Size Matters and they know from their early school days that you just don't fuck with big dudes, News Flash!
I am not saying I would do it but I think someone with cooler head and experience could give these two a lesson.
Instead of throwing and hand stuff to the robbers, I am wondering what would be the consequence if I drop everything, money, phone, whatever on the ground in a calm manner and let them pick it up. They robbers did not even touch their backpacks and luggages.
Should stay in bello, I was thinking one week in at the blux in Poblado, but I been reading on the robberies. I used to be a FDNY firefighter and I have the basic street smarts. Any advice would be appreciate and if anyone would like to show me around, I'll get us a round, safety in numbers.Even if Bello is safe, because it is far away from everything for the first timer, you won't want to stay there. RR has friends there so his situation is different.
One thing to keep in mind is when you are outside, anywhere in the world, focus on your surrounding, not your phone. At least you have an opportunity to escape earlier.
VsebudetNY
02-24-21, 21:33
I am not saying I would do it but I think someone with cooler head and experience could give these two a lesson.
Instead of throwing and hand stuff to the robbers, I am wondering what would be the consequence if I drop everything, money, phone, whatever on the ground in a calm manner and let them pick it up.I wouldn't do it: you can easily get couple bullets in return.
MarquisdeSade1
02-24-21, 23:08
I wouldn't do it: you can easily get couple bullets in return.Just don't go out like this dood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIunFoBzHM
Lucky Nuts
02-24-21, 23:16
So, the story goes.
2 Puerto Rican New Yorkers, just arriving from MDE. Not sure why they were lingering, outside, but maybe sending messages to their landlord about check-in. I stayed at Energy, once, and like any building, there were times when the portero was taking a piss, back in the office, not paying attention, etc.
I've got to imagine this was a setup by their airport taxi. So, take that how you will. They definitely had the gringo costumes on, though. That's why you wear a curved bill. To see fast-approaching ladrones! Of course, I don't expect a measly-paid portero to come running out and take one in the chest, but it's strange as to why they even paused outside the entrance.
I think we've all seen plenty of guys that come from the same cookie cutter, and have been lucky enough to not have this happen. I can't remember the last time I wore a watch in Medellin, something I would do daily in the US; and a watch has an actual function, unlike a big fucking necklace.My info is that the victims were from Puerto Rico. They were spotted at the airport with their gold chains and followed to Energy. Came without a reservation and were standing there trying to make a booking online so they were not allowed into the building without a reservation. In addtional to the motorcycle there was another guy parked out front there in a car working with them. He has been arrested. They are still looking for the other two guys.
Lucky Nuts
02-24-21, 23:52
Any advice for a first timer in mde, staying for a month. I been trying to catchup on all this pages threads. I'm.
New here but not a first time monger, been around Europe and the FKK clubs. I getting mixed review on where to stay, I was consider the gringo area of Poblado or Laureles.
"Obrero / Niquia / Cabanas are the top 3 barrios on my list in Bello. Hot chicks just everywhere, even after all these years in MDE, girls in Bello just on a different level. Sabaneta in the south is also on my list. ".
Should stay in bello, I was thinking one week in at the blux in Poblado, but I been reading on the robberies. I used to be a FDNY firefighter and I have the basic street smarts. Any advice would be appreciate and if anyone would like to show me around, I'll get us a round, safety in numbers.
Appreciate everyone's threads and input.Don't stay at Blux if you're hoping to bring chicas to your apartment. They were guest friendly until a few months ago but not latley. Unless there's been a very recent policy change I'm unaware of yet.
Don't stay in Bello on your first visit. Hell I won't stay in Bello on my 50th visit LOL.
I'd reccommend splitting your stay between the two "gringo areas of Laureles and Poblado" as you call them LOL. There's a reason they are the gringo areas, there are fewer poor guys around wanting to rob you.
About a month ago I posted many of the chica friendly lodging options available in these areas. So look for that post if you want some decent options.
NapataJohn
02-25-21, 00:23
Jay cool report.
I thought Gusto beauty was a great level above la Isla but since I like the strip club scene I enjoyed going to La Isla and see the sexy dances.
I too danced at Gusto's and did find quite a few pretty girls to dance with and enjoyed myself in the safe surroundings.
My info is that the victims were from Puerto Rico. They were spotted at the airport with their gold chains and followed to Energy. Came without a reservation and were standing there trying to make a booking online so they were not allowed into the building without a reservation. In addtional to the motorcycle there was another guy parked out front there in a car working with them. He has been arrested. They are still looking for the other two guys.Well if this is true, their (likely) Latin appearance and Spanish language ability didn't help them. They were a juicy target and I don't know what they could have done differently, other than I guess have a reservation ahead of time. FWIW I've stood outside a non-doorman building with my luggage waiting to get the keys. There are some situations you just can't avoid. And any of us could be a target heading in from the airport as we generally have full luggage.
Regarding fighting back, you guys are crazy. Bullets can take down a 900 pound grizzly. They sure as hell will take down any human being.
I have run from danger both in Rio and in Medellin. But my instinct wouldn't be to run if I had all my luggage with me. And these guys really had nowhere to run.
JohnnyWalker55
02-25-21, 01:05
Dreading going back to the states soon, but only so much remote work I can do. Going to work something out to come to Colombia a few months at a time to explore the coast.
Got a rotation of about 4-5 sws I hit early, then 4-5 casa girls, and 4-5 strip club girls I've been repeating with because of the passionate sex / DFK / DATY. Where they get wet also.
Sure, novelty pussy is good, but after 50+ girls in a short amount of time you seek out the connection and good conversation with the sweet paisas.
Leaving in a few days so not going to have time to go paciar with a non-pro chica and hit up small menu del dias and sleepover and stuff, osteoknot style. (though I usually like sleeping alone so I can wake up in the morning and take a nice shit by myself and go exercise / walk the town).
The opportunity is out there though with non pros, got numbers of the girls working the retail shops bored all day in the mall, a couple waiters, etc. I took this tip from vagabundo on the Brazil forums, even if they say they have a BF or theyre not interested when they realize you're a foreigner, just say you're a surgeon or some type of professional and you want to talk to them professionally for consulting purposes. Then just start hitting on them ahhaah. Works like a charm.
Personally, I find colombians 10 x more receptive to simply conversing as compared to american chicks, it's like a different planet.
When I come back in a few months going to try and change up that style, maybe get a 2 br bnb so I can lock valuables in the other room when she's over. I'm not a penthouse baller or anything like Sjobs was, I like to keep it lowkey in the working class barrios. Been sitting / hanging 5+ hours each day in botero / raudul / behind veracruz pollo negro style, you feel like you're in the 1980's. No need for the phone (don't pull one out, dont bring one imo), just human interaction. Everyone is always sizing each other up, always.
Sidenote, was drinking aguila and doing some shots in the red bar behind veracruz today, I know my tolerance, I don't get extremely buzzed or sloppy, need wits about you. A 19 year old pale paisa spinner was sitting occasionally looking up at me from her phone in the corner, around 2 pm, I motioned her to come over and talk. We took 3 shots together and after 30 min of chatting, I asked her to blow me. No sex. 30 k +10 k room. We got to the room, I said keep all your clothes on, as did I, and she just whipped it out and started sucking me off right there in the room. Where else in the world can you do this shit? Fucking amazing.
Mojo Bandit
02-25-21, 01:41
You have definitely lost your religion with that one.Was that what they call a double entendre? One of the best replies ever!!
Mojo Bandit
02-25-21, 01:52
I wouldn't do it: you can easily get couple bullets in return.I agree, it only takes a fraction of a second for that fool to pull that trigger and they may do it before they even realize it, these fools robbing the persons are almost as scared as the person getting robbed, a fraction of a second of panic is all it takes to pull that trigger.
Mojo Bandit
02-25-21, 01:58
My info is that the victims were from Puerto Rico. They were spotted at the airport with their gold chains and followed to Energy. Came without a reservation and were standing there trying to make a booking online so they were not allowed into the building without a reservation. In addtional to the motorcycle there was another guy parked out front there in a car working with them. He has been arrested. They are still looking for the other two guys.That is interesting. You think the guy in the car maybe followed them from the airport then dispatched the guys on the motorcycles to do the dirty deed? That is a long haul to follow someone he would have had plenty of time to call.
However, it was a $70 k joiner fee after the first guest of the day.Good Stuff. I have never paid more than 20 mil for a joiner or guest fee. I stay in a lot of 2 Star and Ayenda properties and the average is about 15 mil.
MongerHunger
02-25-21, 08:50
Remember this?
The American killed leaving his hotel.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/news/world/new-yorker-killed-botched-robbery-leaving-columbia-article-1.2376002%3foutputType=amp
In this article one of the tourist that was killed in Medellin is accused of sex tourism.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/colombiareports.com/amp/japanese-becomes-4th-foreigner-killed-medellin-year
Diaper rash cream works great if you get friction blisters. I carry it with me for all Colombia travels.
Routine is going nice, dick is starting to get sore from all the sex.
I am not saying I would do it but I think someone with cooler head and experience could give these two a lesson.
Instead of throwing and hand stuff to the robbers, I am wondering what would be the consequence if I drop everything, money, phone, whatever on the ground in a calm manner and let them pick it up. They robbers did not even touch their backpacks and luggages.Four years ago in a walk-up in Hong Kong I was getting extremely bad service from a wg and after a few minutes decided to call it off and refused to pay her the agreed amount but a lesser amount. I waited while she called her 'security' thinking I could reason with them. Well that was not happening. Now these were two small guys and I am sure even if they knew kung fu, which I don't, I could have taken care of them but decided against it. I had to pay the full amount. I thought of throwing the money on the ground but had to admit to myself that I am in their country and this was always going to be a lose lose situation for me. I had to suck it up and give the money to the girl.
...a watch has an actual function, unlike a big fucking necklace.A big necklace has a function. It attracts non-pro chicas.
Did you mean salome from dulce compania on calle 58 carr 45 d? Bcz there's a chubby salome there with an amazing smile and great BJ skills I've seen half a dozen times. Hahaha.
Routine is going nice, dick is starting to get sore from all the sex.With a smooth style and almost effortless pleasure. Fuck, sounds like I am trying to start a Bro'mance, jajajaja I assure you I am not.
But I do want to get out more and do more quickies, and incorporate more of your routine into my mongering lifestyle. I am about 60/40, Regular / Pro chicas and that is a nice mix. I love waking up alone but there are those special few who sure are fun first thing in the morning. If an overnight puta stays with you after the sun comes up then you know she likes you, if that matters to you.
I added a couple of amazing new girls to my line up this trip so far. Vicki Secret and Serenity (see fotos). Secret is a Freak with a true fashion model body and Serenity has more of the classic figure with a desire to please. Both are Pros and both want to be flipped, but in reality, a GF costs more than a puta. Most of these girls want to be flipped to novia status for the financial security. I suffer from a touch of SSS (Special Snowflake Syndrome) believing that I am somehow different, when in fact I am like everyone else to most of them. We ALL pay one way or another.
Most of the times the sex gets better and better the more times I see a chica. Once any chica feels safe and trusts you they will be down for just about anything and these girls will blow your mind with their own ideas. My girls continue to bring their gorgeous girlfriends over to share, I typically do not have to ask. I plugged Cat Girl back in at Numero Uno position for about a week but I like it better when there is no Reina (Queen), agree with Nounce. I am still using rankings and they come in handy if for no other reason than an excuse for my bad behavior with the Girls. None of them love to be a number but they sure are happy when they move up a notch or two and they get the message loud and clear when they are demoted. Works for me.
Time to switch hotels. I reached critical mass and too many chicas know where I am. I ran two rooms last night with good success, one in the front and one in the back, purrfekt. The closer the Rooms the better but of course you have to consider the chances of chicas bumping into each other. Hotels on the same block work great.
Oh, almost forgot the reason for posting. Buy a medicated ointment (not cream) such as 0.5% Hydrocortisone, although plain ol' Vaseline will do 99% of the trick and then wrap your Johnson in a panito (Baby Butt Wipe) that contains aloe, and tuck it your interior ropa (underwear) for a few hours or better yet, when you go to bed for the night. You will be satisfied with the results, I guarantee it.
A big necklace has a function. It attracts non-pro chicas.You misspelled ladrones.
If you need a big gold necklace or a $10 k watch, rings and diamonds to attract non-pro chicas, stick with the pros. Over the years I've found a sincere smile and a few nice words work much better and nobody is likely to point a gun at you just for a smile.
Besides, that big necklace won't attract any non-pro. It only attracts women who are looking for money.
So, the story goes.
2 Puerto Rican New Yorkers, just arriving from MDE. Not sure why they were lingering, outside, but maybe sending messages to their landlord about check-in. I stayed at Energy, once, and like any building, there were times when the portero was taking a piss, back in the office, not paying attention, etc.
I've got to imagine this was a setup by their airport taxi. So, take that how you will. They definitely had the gringo costumes on, though. That's why you wear a curved bill. To see fast-approaching ladrones! Of course, I don't expect a measly-paid portero to come running out and take one in the chest, but it's strange as to why they even paused outside the entrance.
I think we've all seen plenty of guys that come from the same cookie cutter, and have been lucky enough to not have this happen. I can't remember the last time I wore a watch in Medellin, something I would do daily in the US; and a watch has an actual function, unlike a big fucking necklace.I have to believe their arrival was expected and someone wanted them robbed and shot. One would have to be very unlucky to be spotted at the airport, followed, and then stand outside a building long enough for robbers to be coordinated, arrive and then lucky enough find them locked outside the building. The presumed group casing the airport couldn't get away with such a coordinated effort for long before cameras, police, suspicion would interrupt their scheme.
It depends. It that were The Tall Man, the guy with gun would not be "safe". The moment he touched The Tall Man, he would be sent flying to squash the guy on the motorcycle.Hillarious. "The Tall Man" is also bullet proof. BMF.
I went to Cendiatra (https://cendiatra.com/) this morning to get the antigen test for returning to the US. I went to the clinic in Laureles, Cra 80 #44B-91, no appointment. They also have a clinic in Aguacatala (downtown), Cra 47C #105-04. The cost is 50 mil. I arrived at 8 am, and was finished at 8:20. They gave me the option to wait for the result or have it emailed. I chose email. The result was in my mailbox at 9:03 am. The swab test was more uncomfortable than what I got in Florida, but bearable. Overall, it was a good experience. They were very tolerate with my lack of Spanish.Good information. Thanks for this.
Even if Bello is safe, because it is far away from everything for the first timer, you won't want to stay there. RR has friends there so his situation is different.
I imagine and believe Bello would be safe for a few days if a person is secretive and selective about where he stays and what's close by so he doesn't have to walk a mile to find food and essentials. I've thought about it. The girls have drivers and I wouldn't want my whereabouts revealed where an opportunistic amigo of the chica has friends willing to help exploit. If it is that dangerous and easy to be targeted by anyone paying attention or looking for an opportunity. Maybe it's better just to have the girls take their taxi to Laureles or Poblado and wait the extra 30 minutes (at least) as they will surely be late and out of communication until the taxi finally arrives and your phone starts ringing "off the hook" as if you're the one late who is running late.
Jay cool report.
I thought Gusto beauty was a great level above la Isla but since I like the strip club scene I enjoyed going to La Isla and see the sexy dances.
I too danced at Gusto's and did find quite a few pretty girls to dance with and enjoyed myself in the safe surroundings.I agree. The talent at Gusto's was off the charts good. And it was only a Thursday night. But, the ladies were a bit standoffish and weren't coming over unless you were buying drinks for them.
Went to La Isla on Saturday night and while the talent wasn't as good overall, there were certainly some stunners and only $2 k for a feel of some T & A. Very much enjoyed myself. Obviously, just a different scene than Gusto's. Plenty of choices in Medellin for everyone to pick from. I was more used to the bar / FL scene since it was more similar to Thailand and Tijuana. But FB seems to be the best way of scheduling midday hookups. Can't wait until my next trip!
Heads up with registering with Migracion for entry into the Country. I just tried to register for entry into Colombia on a flight Wednesday morning from FLL to MDE on Jetblue and it didn't recognize the flight and perhaps it was because the flight number was two digits. I attempted this in English and when I tried registering in Spanish, it recognized the flight, and I was able to register and got an E mail verification. This may not be an issue for others.Try using an X for the missing digit or some other alpha-numeric character.
If that does not work take a screenshot of the error page. I have heard of guys getting thru migracion with that.
Good luck. Give me a shout out when you are here.
Ostee Out.
Four years ago in a walk-up in Hong Kong I was getting extremely bad service from a wg and after a few minutes decided to call it off and refused to pay her the agreed amount but a lesser amount. I waited while she called her 'security' thinking I could reason with them. Well that was not happening. Now these were two small guys and I am sure even if they knew kung fu, which I don't, I could have taken care of them but decided against it. I had to pay the full amount. I thought of throwing the money on the ground but had to admit to myself that I am in their country and this was always going to be a lose lose situation for me. I had to suck it up and give the money to the girl.I am someone who will keep thinking. That does not mean I won't listen to others. I asked this question because others have mentioned to carry some money for the robbery. So I start to think how to optimize that idea, haha. I have been thinking how much I should carry. I think maybe 100 to 150 mil in 2 mil bills is enough. When someone try to rob me, depending on the situation, I just take out the money and throw it away as a diversion, not a good idea?
The walkup rule I know is that you have to pay once you pass the threshhold, and I think often it is pay before service. You negotiate everything before you step into the room. These places are protected by organized crime so it is not a good idea to cross them.
I imagine and believe Bello would be safe for a few days if a person is secretive and selective about where he stays and what's close by so he doesn't have to walk a mile to find food and essentials. The same statement can be applied to Medellin by association if you generalize that way because Bello is not safe.
Bello is a large area with different neighborhoods in different estratos. RR specifically mentioned 3 areas that he thinks are safer areas. The responses are well meaning and I am not disputing that but it is similar analogy.
SlapShot10
02-25-21, 21:21
Was scrambling all evening to put something together. At about 1045p I hooked one and confirmed all details. She arrived by about 1130p, compliments of an almost 9k DiDi from across the city. Pinky's friend was still here, because she was locked out of her apartment and waiting to hear from her roommate. So, we hung out and drank for awhile. The fucking jacuzzi malfunctioned and I had to look up troubleshooting. So, the temp maxed-out at 34 degrees, after a few hours of heating while using. We made due. Any time you got out of the jacuzzi, you were freezing when you got back, and it felt like 38. Pinky's friend left and the girls diddled around in the bikini room, before making their grand re-entrance to the kitchen. I packed up the beers, Smirnoffs, and rum for the ascent.
The girls hit it off, discussing music and God knows what. They both like to smoke weed, so that helped. I think she is 23, so she was giving Pinky some advice about certain things like modeling work, etc. Eventually, we played the 1-2 (think rock, paper, scissors but with 1 or 2) to get the bathing suits off. That turned into some passionate kissing. That turned into some nipple licking, pussy rubbing, and BBBJ.
Finally, down to the guest bedroom. Great session. Both girls had great orgasms. I went from Pinky to (fuck I should have a nickname by now) EROHW to Pinky. I used a condom with EROHW. She brought a lot of energy to the trio. Maybe a bit much with the coaching or cheering, occasionally, but nowhere near those experiences with the fake porn star ditzes. Pinky was going wild, the second time banging her. I finished once, and EROHW left at 530a.
I think she is fairly well-known in Energy, based on photos I've seen. She can also speak English at a basic level, so that probably helps. I met her a year and a half ago, but had never been with her. She messaged today saying thank you and that it was amazing and she hopes we can repeat. 200k, 6 hours, 1 pop. Oh, strangely, she asked for money up front. About an hour after arrival, before the jacuzzi. I told her I never pay first. She said that's her rule. I said that's a stupid rule, and it's not common. I didn't feel like ruining the mood. If it were a one-on-one and I wasn't really into it, I'd probably have asked her to leave. Instead, I paid her and the night went extremely well. I'd imagine she could be had for 150k + taxis + a blunt & drinks, but I can't confirm.
*EDIT* - Pinky is headed home for a few days for a family birthday. I've got some interesting prospects lined-up.
Mojo Bandit
02-26-21, 00:27
Remember this?
The American killed leaving his hotel.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nydailynews.com/news/world/new-yorker-killed-botched-robbery-leaving-columbia-article-1.2376002%3foutputType=amp
In this article one of the tourist that was killed in Medellin is accused of sex tourism.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/colombiareports.com/amp/japanese-becomes-4th-foreigner-killed-medellin-yearThis is good information for people to read about what has happened in the past when people resisted the robbers. I also find it interested that they say one of the murder victims was 'accused of sex tourism" as f it were illegal and as if he was going around robbing banks or something.
Diaper rash cream works great if you get friction blisters. I carry it with me for all Colombia travels.I can vouch and confirm that diaper rash cream that is used for baby diaper rash works great, albeit this condition typically arises from barebacking and at times when I have I always carry Astroglide with me if the Chica is dry, however I currently don't have any Chicas in my rotation that are dry because they leche a lot and are wet.
Took a red-eye from LAX Tuesday night with a connection in FLL and arrived mid afternoon on Wednesday and got no sleep all night. Upon arriving took a taxi to my place, checked everything out, fired up the water heater, and went to EXITO and stocked up on food stuffs. This took about an hour and a half and then I hopped on the Metro, got off at Parque Berrio Station, and hit the playground. I had been in Medellin last November and it appeared as though nothing much has changed, lots of Chicas everywhere, and no different than prior to the Pandemic with the exception of most people wearing masks. I took a few laps around the backside of the Church scoping out the talent and was very tired so I bought two 500 Peso bags of water and sat opposite the Veracruz Church and downed a liter of water as I realized I was de-hydrated, sleep deprived, and the altitude was effecting me. Upon re-hydrating it was time, and I wasn't in the mood to go with a new one, and one of my regulars was out, and she came to say Hello, and asked me to take her. She's about thirty, a dinky little thing, and desperate just like lots of the other Chicas that were out. I told her okay I'm going to give you 50 K for two leaches and she said no problem. I took her to Calle Real, it's in the walkway leading up to the Metro, and let the first leche rip after about 30 minutes. I then rested about 30 minutes and was able to get hard and in her, but after a while I threw in the towel, as being totally wasted, and not enough time to recharge, this senior citizen wasn't going to nut so quick so I paid her and went home, ordered Rappi, had a Tequila Sunrise, and hit the crib.
Early in the morning on Thursday I tried to hook up with a new 21 year old Chica I had been corresponding with before arriving and had all the details worked out. 100 K plus 30 K for taxis, she lives way out in Bello and refused to take the Metro and could of been blowing smoke and had planned to travel by bus and the Metro and pocket the difference. I couldn't confirm her early enough in the day for me as I had a pre-arranged Chica for 5:30 so I called "Betty" one of my El Centro regulars, a larger woman, around thirty, not fat but somewhat of a Nympho. She said she could meet me in an hour and a half and I met her at 11 AM at Zona Rosa, great session, and gave her 40 K total and she was ever so thankful. Just a Mom trying to make ends meet and not a hustler and doesn't even own a smart phone but is always punctual or early so she's a keeper.
So after this session I hopped on the Metro to Industrailes and then transferred by bus to the Fatima station in Bellen and walked over to the sports complex and hit the pool and got in a forty minute swim and was feeling pretty good. I then went back to my place spent a few hours and hopped back on the Metro headed back to El Centro. I had been corresponding with a Chica I met over a year ago who I had been with once, and it was nothing spectacular the first time but a great personality and I enjoyed her company so decided to try her again and glad I did. She's 25 with a 5 year old, on the small side, not a very great body, okay face, but a nice ass and I told her I would pay her 70 K for a rato and to meet me in front of Hotel Nutibarra at 5:30 PM, I have always communicated with her via Whatsapp, but gave her my Colombian burner phone number as I have an I phone that doesn't leave my place.
So she shows up on time, we walk thru Hotel Nutibarra, and to Hotel Deseo across from the bus station and we get a room. I had told her earlier in the day I was going to give her a massage and after showering started massaging her and we talked for a while and she told me stories about some of the gringos she had been with, and the issues were communication problems, guys wanting her ass, and not using a condom. I went down on her, and she leched after about five minutes and got very wet and left a puddle on the bed. So after this I told her there was a "puddle" on the bed in Spanish, and she started laughing. I laid back and she started deep throating me with no mention of a condom, the time before it was a BBBJ, and maybe her skills have improved but it was great and I was rock hard and then all of a sudden she hopped on board sin condom, and I didn't fight it, and we went at it awhile and she came two more times as was evidenced by the wet gushes. So after about forty minutes and all kinds of positions, she demanded my leche and got on top and started going up and down and the visuals of her cute little ass going up and down in cow girl took me over the top. I hope I didn't catch anything, but sometimes shit just happens, as I'm sure it has to others here and she would not of allowed what occurred unless she was on birth control or was sterile, she did have a see-section, and was very tight.
So I think I'm almost acclimated now, and tomorrow I'm going to meet up with one of my sweethearts and have her stay with me a while and play house if she shows up.
Life is good in Medellin, and I plan on staying a while as I don't have a return ticket home.
This is good information for people to read about what has happened in the past when people resisted the robbers. I also find it interested that they say one of the murder victims was 'accused of sex tourism" as f it were illegal and as if he was going around robbing banks or something.Thanks for sharing. Hate to say it but some of these news stories don't deserve to be taken at face value. In each case they were quick to tell you that the victim "resisted a robbery" yet both died and no eyewitnesses are named or quoted, though the New Yorker was said to have been in a taxi. The sources are "state media" and "the authorities" and there's definitely a PR advantage to laying fault on the tourist.
That said, when faced with a gun and demand for money, etc. Cooperation is the best strategy, though not foolproof when dealing with squirrelly people that are hopped up on drugs.
Don't wear gold chains.
Don't stay at Blux if you're hoping to bring chicas to your apartment. They were guest friendly until a few months ago but not latley. Unless there's been a very recent policy change I'm unaware of yet.
Don't stay in Bello on your first visit. Hell I won't stay in Bello on my 50th visit LOL.
I'd reccommend splitting your stay between the two "gringo areas of Laureles and Poblado" as you call them LOL. There's a reason they are the gringo areas, there are fewer poor guys around wanting to rob you.
About a month ago I posted many of the chica friendly lodging options available in these areas. So look for that post if you want some decent options.Many thanks, I didn't have much time to research so booked Blux for week.
So update today I got desperate matched with a tinder girl, 22 cute tattoos and piercing; conversation lead to her being an escort.
I been reading the thread and trying to average out the prices:
40 to 100 k regular girls.
200 k for isla.
I pulled a newbie move and knew her prices was an up charge.
She charged 250 k for one hour.
She pulled up; security called, we chatted briefly and she went straight to business.
Start off with CBJ and she ask for my condom, LOL, whatever.
Head game 6, only went for a few minutes, lazy ass.
She rode me for a bit, missionary, and lastly I busted.
Her pussy was clean and tight, that's a surprise.
The whole event took only 30 minutes top and I let her shower off, then she left.
Lack of GFE and energy, she didn't ask for any extra or anything. Text me back, saying next time; definitely not for that price again.
Hopefully my pictures are uploaded.
Even if Bello is safe, because it is far away from everything for the first timer, you won't want to stay there. RR has friends there so his situation is different.
One thing to keep in mind is when you are outside, anywhere in the world, focus on your surrounding, not your phone. At least you have an opportunity to escape earlier.Thanks, being reading that phone thief is up, so I keep it in my pocket when I'm walking around, area in el Poblado. And I met a fellow American on the flight over, he is a native bello; told me straight up his town is the hood and some parts you need permission. I grew up in the hoods, so nope.
3:30 AM woke up wide awake. Is that possible? I think on the Pink Shit it is. Bored. Waiting for Secret to return in a Colombiana hour or "una hora" as she repeated five times. That was at 8:30 PM, 7 horas ago. Jajajaja. Colombiana time. I once had a chica text me that she was "caminando cerca" or nearby walking very close, and show up six hours later. Another time I tried to explain the concept of an appointment to a chica for business purposes and she could not get it, jajaja en serio. Anywho, Ostee Mongering Tip 47 be. Small Pringles can. Check it out. Credit cards and bills fit perfectly and it still sounds and feels like Pringles when you shake it, sort of, jajajajaa.
NewsFlash: Secret has a sister and she is hawt as fuck but would not let me take her foto so being the asshole I am, I shot these in stealth mode. Love You Guys.
...Besides, that big necklace won't attract any non-pro. It only attracts women who are looking for money.According to you then non-pros are not interested in what they can get from you.
I am someone who will keep thinking. That does not mean I won't listen to others. I asked this question because others have mentioned to carry some money for the robbery. So I start to think how to optimize that idea, haha. I have been thinking how much I should carry. I think maybe 100 to 150 mil in 2 mil bills is enough. When someone try to rob me, depending on the situation, I just take out the money and throw it away as a diversion, not a good idea?
The walkup rule I know is that you have to pay once you pass the threshhold, and I think often it is pay before service. You negotiate everything before you step into the room. These places are protected by organized crime so it is not a good idea to cross them.For those who have not done a HK walk-up the rule is that you pay after service.
Thanks, being reading that phone thief is up, so I keep it in my pocket when I'm walking around, area in el Poblado. And I met a fellow American on the flight over, he is a native bello; told me straight up his town is the hood and some parts you need permission. I grew up in the hoods, so nope.Some advice for you, leave your phone locked up where your staying. If you depend on this phone for like boarding passes and other documents to travel you might have some issues to deal with and not be able to get your same number back while in Colombia for an American cell phone number. I'm not a phone expert but have Verizon in the USA, I brought some Verizon SIM cards and an older unblocked I phone with me which I can activate if necessary. Again I'm not a phone expert and I recall other BM's know all the tricks, but do know that the phones in Colombia are on a different system than in the USA.
So you might want to consider buying a cheap burner phone for no more than $ 30 USD. I communicate with the majority of my Chicas via Whatsapp and when I'm going to meet up with them, I leave my I phone locked up and give them my burner phone number and have theirs as well so if I lose it, no big deal, it's registered with Claro and I can get the SIM card replaced, and if your staying for less than a month the burner phone will work without having to be registered.
I have no sympathy for guys who get their American cell phones stolen.
The Tall Man
02-26-21, 17:20
Dreading going back to the states soon, but only so much remote work I can do. Going to work something out to come to Colombia a few months at a time to explore the coast.
Got a rotation of about 4-5 sws I hit early, then 4-5 casa girls, and 4-5 strip club girls I've been repeating with because of the passionate sex / DFK / DATY. Where they get wet also.
Sidenote, was drinking aguila and doing some shots in the red bar behind veracruz today, I know my tolerance, I don't get extremely buzzed or sloppy, need wits about you. A 19 year old pale paisa spinner was sitting occasionally looking up at me from her phone in the corner, around 2 pm, I motioned her to come over and talk. We took 3 shots together and after 30 min of chatting, I asked her to blow me. No sex. 30 k +10 k room. We got to the room, I said keep all your clothes on, as did I, and she just whipped it out and started sucking me off right there in the room. Where else in the world can you do this shit? Fucking amazing.That's what I love about living here, hell I don't need those 8's and 9's that all the weekend warriors get hyped over, I had them all everything from Fase Dos to La Isla to Gutos to FB to non-pros to San Diego SW to everything and guess what? Nothing better than the black paisa I pulled into one of those bars behind the vera yesterday afternoon, one beer and headed through the curtain at the back of the sleazy bar and got a 5 mil room and she sucked and fucked like a real puta should.
Nothing better than watching my pure white man juice dribble down her black chin.
It is the spontaneity of it all, the rawness, the shit smelling filthy rooms and beds that I would not let my dog sleep on, it all adds to the thrill.
Now this being said this afternoon I have my sweetest most precious 19 yo coming over to my apartment so I can give her some lessons on computer programs. So my point is that I can go from a nasty cheap ass fuck in a filthy bar to the most precious and kind sweet non-pro. It's all good.
Hurry back to Medellin but in the meantime we will keep the putas busy slurping cock.
Here is a Vennie a few months back in centro sucking on me like it is her purpose in life.
The Tall Man.
Mojo Bandit
02-26-21, 22:03
Many thanks, I didn't have much time to research so booked Blux for week.
So update today I got desperate matched with a tinder girl, 22 cute tattoos and piercing; conversation lead to her being an escort.
She pulled up; security called, we chatted briefly and she went straight to business.
The whole event took only 30 minutes top and I let her shower off, then she left.
Am I to understand that she visited you at Blux and security allowed her up?
PolloNegro
02-26-21, 22:21
That's what I love about living here, hell I don't need those 8's and 9's that all the weekend warriors get hyped over, I had them all everything from Fase Dos to La Isla to Gutos to FB to non-pros to San Diego SW to everything and guess what? Nothing better than the black paisa I pulled into one of those bars behind the vera yesterday afternoon, one beer and headed through the curtain at the back of the sleazy bar and got a 5 mil room and she sucked and fucked like a real puta should.
Nothing better than watching my pure white man juice dribble down her black chin.
It is the spontaneity of it all, the rawness, the shit smelling filthy rooms and beds that I would not let my dog sleep on, it all adds to the thrill.
Now this being said this afternoon I have my sweetest most precious 19 yo coming over to my apartment so I can give her some lessons on computer programs. So my point is that I can go from a nasty cheap ass fuck in a filthy bar to the most precious and kind sweet non-pro. It's all good.
Hurry back to Medellin but in the meantime we will keep the putas busy slurping cock.
Here is a Vennie a few months back in centro sucking on me like it is her purpose in life.
The Tall Man.Preach! I will be back very soon! Pollo negro is out!
NapataJohn
02-26-21, 22:38
https://medellinguru.com/covid-19-vaccinations-in-colombia/
3:30 AM woke up wide awake. Is that possible? I think on the Pink Shit it is. Bored. Waiting for Secret to return in a Colombiana hour or "una hora" as she repeated five times. That was at 8:30 PM, 7 horas ago. Jajajaja. Colombiana time. I once had a chica text me that she was "caminando cerca" or nearby walking very close, and show up six hours later. Another time I tried to explain the concept of an appointment to a chica for business purposes and she could not get it, jajaja en serio. Anywho, Ostee Mongering Tip 47 be. Small Pringles can. Check it out. Credit cards and bills fit perfectly and it still sounds and feels like Pringles when you shake it, sort of, jajajajaa.
NewsFlash: Secret has a sister and she is hawt as fuck but would not let me take her foto so being the asshole I am, I shot these in stealth mode. Love You Guys.Not sure I understand the Pringle thing, the way it looks you just leave it out, but what when girl gets hunger and picks it up? Am I missing something? Good job brother with you story's and all you chicks, live it up!, stay safe!
Am I to understand that she visited you at Blux and security allowed her up?Yes sirrr.
That's what I love about living here, hell I don't need those 8's and 9's that all the weekend warriors get hyped over, I had them all everything from Fase Dos to La Isla to Gutos to FB to non-pros to San Diego SW to everything and guess what? Nothing better than the black paisa I pulled into one of those bars behind the vera yesterday afternoon, one beer and headed through the curtain at the back of the sleazy bar and got a 5 mil room and she sucked and fucked like a real puta should.
Nothing better than watching my pure white man juice dribble down her black chin.
It is the spontaneity of it all, the rawness, the shit smelling filthy rooms and beds that I would not let my dog sleep on, it all adds to the thrill.
Now this being said this afternoon I have my sweetest most precious 19 yo coming over to my apartment so I can give her some lessons on computer programs. So my point is that I can go from a nasty cheap ass fuck in a filthy bar to the most precious and kind sweet non-pro. It's all good.
Hurry back to Medellin but in the meantime we will keep the putas busy slurping cock.
Here is a Vennie a few months back in centro sucking on me like it is her purpose in life.
The Tall Man.Vennies are the hottest girls in the world. Change my mind. Matter fact, don't.
MongerHunger
02-27-21, 00:33
Beware.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ijpdRMOTnBM&feature=youtu.be
So true, it would simply be NEXT.
For consideration I have compiled some statistical research and it shows that each day, in Medellin proper alone, there are 62 paisas who turned 18 years old today. This means yesterday there were 62 new chicas on the market, today there have been 62 more added, tomorrow there will be 62 more and so on, so in one year 22,630 new chicas are coming of age, numbers matter.
The only price list I want to see is on a menu in a restaurant.
Much love and respect to you all.
The Tall Man.And all of them will be available for you and your 30 k in Centro? In reality, maybe 1 or 2 of those 62 will ever try whoring. Contrary to the nonsense that is often written on the subject, even in Colombian society, not every girl sells herself. There is very much a distinction between pros and non-pros.
NewsFlash: Secret has a sister and she is hawt as fuck but would not let me take her foto so being the asshole I am, I shot these in stealth mode. Love You Guys.I'm sure given the hour and state of mind I was in, it was classic PICNIC. Problem-In-Chair-Not-In-Computer, jajajajaja. They definitely have the same cute nose and mouth. Secret left to go do a deal and I asked her if it was okay if I fucked her sister while she was gone. She said yeah, but I could tell by the look on her sister's face she was not ready to be volunteered just yet, jaja. So they both left and Secret came back with a new amiga, very fat, I like all types but I could not muster any attraction for her. She smelled bad and when she took a shower in my bathroom she left dirt marks on all the towels. I kicked them both out, Secret swore she would be back in an hour but never showed. But even a "bad" day in Medellin beats a good day back in the USA. And some shit went down since then already that more than made up for it, more later, Ostee Out.
I spent Friday afternoon from about 3 PM to 6 PM in El Centro specifically in and around the Botero area. And I saw a very tall, thin gringo, easily over seven feet tall wearing a green shirt who was drawing quite a crowd. Anyone else around who saw this guy, he may have been closer to 7 feet 6 inches tall, and had quite an entourage following him around.
I'm sure given the hour and state of mind I was in, it was classic PICNIC. Problem-In-Chair-Not-In-Computer, jajajajaja. They definitely have the same cute nose and mouth. Secret left to go do a deal and I asked her if it was okay if I fucked her sister while she was gone. She said yeah, but I could tell by the look on her sister's face she was not ready to be volunteered just yet, jaja. So they both left and Secret came back with a new amiga, very fat, I like all types but I could not muster any attraction for her. She smelled bad and when she took a shower in my bathroom she left dirt marks on all the towels. I kicked them both out, Secret swore she would be back in an hour but never showed. But even a "bad" day in Medellin beats a good day back in the USA. And some shit went down since then already that more than made up for it, more later, Ostee Out.Nice pics Ostee. Keep them coming. Looks like you have moved to a new accomodation.
One question I am begging still needs an answer (also asked ina previous post), what good is the Pringles can with money / card?
Though it might not look valuable like a wallet, but still would attract attention to your guests in the room!
Lucky Nuts
02-27-21, 06:02
Yes sirrr.That's good to hear Thanos please keep us updated on your progress there. I always liked staying at Blux and would again if they allow guests. On my many past stays at Blux different hosts had different guest policies until I heard in November of a new uniform building policy that all guest names needed to be submitted prior to check-in. You didn't do this correct? Also could you let us know your host's first name. Do you see many chicas coming and going? Thanks.
i'm sure given the hour and state of mind i was in, it was classic picnic. Problem-in-chair-not-in-computer, jajajajaja. They definitely have the same cute nose and mouth. Secret left to go do a deal and i asked her if it was okay if i fucked her sister while she was gone. She said yeah, but i could tell by the look on her sister's face she was not ready to be volunteered just yet, jaja. So they both left and secret came back with a new amiga, very fat, i like all types but i could not muster any attraction for her. She smelled bad and when she took a shower in my bathroom she left dirt marks on all the towels. I kicked them both out, secret swore she would be back in an hour but never showed. But even a "bad" day in medellin beats a good day back in the usa. And some shit went down since then already that more than made up for it, more later, ostee out.she left dirt marks on the towel? Wtf.
Lucky Nuts
02-27-21, 07:08
Not sure I understand the Pringle thing, the way it looks you just leave it out, but what when girl gets hunger and picks it up? Am I missing something? Good job brother with you story's and all you chicks, live it up!, stay safe!LOL so many of us thought the same thing. Half the chicas visit me would open that up and be pissed it contains plastic instead of a salty saturated fat product jaja.
No offense O thanks for sharing your ideas and experiences. But maybe a soup can or something even weirder than that on a high shelf that if you want to hide something.
Am I to understand that she visited you at Blux and security allowed her up?Yessir and I had a new come thru today too. I'm exhausted I'll do a write up and upload pictures of her.
That's good to hear Thanos please keep us updated on your progress there. I always liked staying at Blux and would again if they allow guests. On my many past stays at Blux different hosts had different guest policies until I heard in November of a new uniform building policy that all guest names needed to be submitted prior to check-in. You didn't do this correct? Also could you let us know your host's first name. Do you see many chicas coming and going? Thanks.This is true the host is Manuela and her policy is strict and I didn't give her any guest names prior. LOL, now the security guard females knows me. I had this tinder non Prost 21 show up with no ID, the guard ask for some dough and I broke her off with 20 k. Same night I had my boy come thru and this new escort. I'll do a write later, been up since 7 am, be safe and happy hunting.
LOL so many of us thought the same thing. Half the chicas visit me would open that up and be pissed it contains plastic instead of a salty saturated fat product jaja.
No offense O thanks for sharing your ideas and experiences. But maybe a soup can or something even weirder than that on a high shelf that if you want to hide something.Camouflage. Hide in plain view?
Fotos of a little while ago.
Many thanks, I didn't have much time to research so booked Blux for week.
So update today I got desperate matched with a tinder girl, 22 cute tattoos and piercing; conversation lead to her being an escort.
I been reading the thread and trying to average out the prices:
40 to 100 k regular girls.
200 k for isla.
I pulled a newbie move and knew her prices was an up charge..Thanks for the report, but you may have missed a few things reading the thread.
The price at La Isla is 300 k. Streetwalkers in El Centro are 30-40 k. Regular girls generally run 150 k-250 k. Some can be had for less, some will expect more. There are too many variables to narrow it much further. Tinder girls are usually 200-250 k. Again, some will charge more, some less.
Hope you have a good week.
According to you then non-pros are not interested in what they can get from you.No. According to me, if a woman is attracted to you because you are wearing flashy and expensive jewelry, then she's not there for your sparkling personality. At that point her non-pro status is debatable.
Not sure I understand the Pringle thing, the way it looks you just leave it out, but what when girl gets hunger and picks it up? Am I missing something? Good job brother with you story's and all you chicks, live it up!, stay safe!That would be my concern. Turn your back for a few and girl is trying to hide your credit cards in her mouth.
LOL so many of us thought the same thing. Half the chicas visit me would open that up and be pissed it contains plastic instead of a salty saturated fat product jaja.
No offense O thanks for sharing your ideas and experiences. But maybe a soup can or something even weirder than that on a high shelf that if you want to hide something.Or just on a high shelf, unless you go for the tall girls.
Beware.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ijpdRMOTnBM&feature=youtu.beColombia has always been dangerous but I'm getting the feeling that covid-19 has made it more so.
... in the meantime we will keep the putas busy slurping cock.
Here is a Vennie a few months back in centro sucking on me like it is her purpose in life.
The Tall Man.Chow time.
Just Incognito
02-27-21, 14:53
Beware.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ijpdRMOTnBM&feature=youtu.beThis video is a re-enactment of the moment a chick realized somebody stole her laptop of a table when she went to a bathroom and left it on the table with nobody watching it-that's not a 'robbery' as much as some asshole taking advantage of an opportunity created by a dingbat.
Who would take a laptop to a cFE-Then leave it on the table unwatched while they use the restroom? I wouldn't do that in the Boca Del Vista country club if I was hanging out with Seinfeld's parents. Let alone in Medellin.
That's just stupid.
Obviously, as an economy gets demolished during the pandemic-more criminals will emerge. As will more opportunity with more chicas.
Just Incognito
02-27-21, 15:48
https://www.eltiempo.com/politica/gobierno/anuncios-para-restaurantes-y-gastrobares-en-decreto-de-orden-publico-569534?fbclid=IwAR1ael-onwzLXW5tBX7g5J5b9HdZI7K4OmRt_Y3HR_ZycsPaY9x6NK66lFs
The National Government issued a new public order decree that will establish measures for selective isolation and safe economic reactivation for the country. These are the restrictions and authorizations issued in the decree:
Restrictions:
-The National Vaccination Plan may not be modified, nor will changes to populations, phases or procedures be allowed to carry out mass vaccination.
-The restriction is maintained for events of a public or private nature that involve crowds.
- Massive or high-contact events such as discos and dance venues will be restricted.
-It will not be possible to consume intoxicating beverages in public spaces or in commercial establishments.
(You can read: Duque announced that 2 million Sinovac vaccines will arrive on March 7).
Authorizations:
-It is authorized the consumption of intoxicating beverages in restaurants.
- The sale of intoxicating beverages is not prohibited and their commercialization must be allowed at all times through digital platforms or addresses.
-The mayors may request pilots from the Ministry of the Interior for bars, gastrobars, events, business or livestock fairs according to the progressive de-escalation of the pandemic.
The Minister of the Interior, Daniel Palacios, called on local leaders to guarantee compliance with the National Vaccination Plan, as well as the sanctions that imply non-compliance with the mass vaccination process. Palacios recalled that the Penal Code and the Disciplinary Code establish the sanctions for those who fail to comply with the plan.
(Follow with: The harsh criminal or economic sanctions for 'strained' in vaccination).
Restaurants may sell liquor.
President Duque also announced that a new public order decree was issued that will run until May 31. The document establishes measures for the selective isolation and economic reactivation of the country.
Palacios pointed out that the prohibition for sale and consumption in commercial establishments is maintained, but that restaurants do not require any type of pilot and are authorized to be able to sell and sell liquor in those places.
" Likewise, mayors are authorized to carry out the pilots for the consumption of liquor in bars and gastrobars, " he said.
Finally, he announced that mayors will be able to request pilots for massive and high-contact events.
Anyone have more information about this? Or a better explanation?
Makeup, usually it's makeup.
she left dirt marks on the towel? Wtf.
If I understood the English correctly the young woman left her computer unattended or under the care of someone else while she went to the bathroom. That is not a robbery. That is theft. This is also a situation in which the victims shares some of the blame.
Colombia has always been dangerous but I'm getting the feeling that covid-19 has made it more so.
The Tall Man
02-27-21, 16:59
I spent Friday afternoon from about 3 PM to 6 PM in El Centro specifically in and around the Botero area. And I saw a very tall, thin gringo, easily over seven feet tall wearing a green shirt who was drawing quite a crowd. Anyone else around who saw this guy, he may have been closer to 7 feet 6 inches tall, and had quite an entourage following him around.Hell no, yes I know who you are talking about as I was there on Thursday late afternoon and saw him too, he is every bit of 7 feet tall but thin as a rail, I mean super skinny, think of Slender Man hehehehe me I am built like a linebacker hehehehe.
All is good, much love and respect for all including The Slender Man as he needs some good loving too hehehehe.
The Tall Man.
Mr Enternational
02-27-21, 17:06
One question I am begging still needs an answer (also asked ina previous post), what good is the Pringles can with money / card?
Though it might not look valuable like a wallet, but still would attract attention to your guests in the room!I was at a hotel in Rio with this hooker. After she went home I went in the bathroom and saw a bunch of crumbs on the bathroom rug. I looked in the trash and there was an empty can of pringles and juice box that she had taken from the minibar. I guess she had sat on the toilet while eating them. I have not looked at that chick the same since.
Colombia has always been dangerous but I'm getting the feeling that covid-19 has made it more so.Of course, and not just Colombia. Almost every country in the World has had some type of lockdown and that has left a lot of people without jobs and income. Someone mentioned unemployment in Colombia is upwards of 30% right now. Of course it's a lot more dangerous.
That said, that women shares some of the blame. Leaving a laptop unattended in any public place is asking for it to be stolen.
And the guy talking to her sounds like a *******.
I was sitting around bored and high at 3 AM when I posted Pringles. Considering I got the most feedback from that post ever, I learned how out of touch I really am with readership here, LOL! Love you guys and keep it coming!
First, I usually never have this much cash in my room. I would normally use a safety deposit box, room safe, or just keep the minimum amount of caja I need. But the room had no safe and I was getting ready to go buy a Yamaha for Cat Girl and I was using cash to get the best deal possible.
Stuff the bills into the yellow panito bag. Now here is the important part. Layer a few old DRY panitos on top to hide the wad.
I have had TWO girls in here pick up the bag, open it, touch the dry panito inside and say, "Ohhh, nooo" and put the bag back down. Pretty sure each time that would have been the most money they ever had in their little hands at one time. Obvio I showed no reaction at any point.
Getting ready to "Go To The Mountain Top" with Cat Girl on Monday. More on that later. That is where the Iron Door is going. That is Haz next to the door, Cat Girl's current novia. She has lasted the longest of any girl so far. Never seen Cat Girl stick with a girl longer than a month before, jaja, she ditches worse than a guy! Jajajajaja.
Ostee Out.
I'm not a phone expert but have Verizon in the USA, I brought some Verizon SIM cards and an older unblocked I phone with me which I can activate if necessary. Again I'm not a phone expert and I recall other BM's know all the tricks, but do know that the phones in Colombia are on a different system than in the USA.US carriers operate on two different systems. Verizon and Sprint are on one system that is not compatible with Colombia and probably the rest of the world. The rest are on the same system as Colombia.
For phones, it depends on the models or the chip they used. Some phone models can operate on both systems.
I spent Friday afternoon from about 3 PM to 6 PM in El Centro specifically in and around the Botero area. And I saw a very tall, thin gringo, easily over seven feet tall wearing a green shirt who was drawing quite a crowd. Anyone else around who saw this guy, he may have been closer to 7 feet 6 inches tall, and had quite an entourage following him around.This just show the world is pretty big. I have seen that tall person in Centro before the pandemic several times.
This video is a re-enactment of the moment a chick realized somebody stole her laptop of a table when she went to a bathroom and left it on the table with nobody watching it-that's not a 'robbery' as much as some asshole taking advantage of an opportunity created by a dingbat.
Who would take a laptop to a cFE-Then leave it on the table unwatched while they use the restroom? I wouldn't do that in the Boca Del Vista country club if I was hanging out with Seinfeld's parents. Let alone in Medellin.
That's just stupid.
Obviously, as an economy gets demolished during the pandemic-more criminals will emerge. As will more opportunity with more chicas.The two guys are there waiting for an opportunity to steal. I think even if she had the laptop in a backpack under the chair, the laptop could be stolen while she did not pay attention. This has happened before in normal time.
So Friday afternoon I was set to meet my "Tomboy" in El Centro at 3 PM and take her to my place for the weekend. And upon showing up at the meeting place at 3 PM she didn't show up and since she doesn't have a phone and I keep in touch with her thru a friends phone, she did not contact me to say she couldn't make it. Oh well, that's how it is with a lot of the SW's, lots don't have phones, and when they get them there either stolen or they lose them. I was bit bummed out, as this one is a sweetheart and all in, so I decided to wait an hour, and if she didn't show up by 4 PM, put on a happy face, and go trolling looking for something which I did.
So I took several laps around the the Veracruz Church and in and around the Museum. So many Chicas out on a Friday afternoon all over the place and even the Extra Tall Thin Man was out, regardless I noticed several of what I call "candy girls" out. These are the Chicas with little boxes of Chiclets and candy's in them and they typically are very ugly and fat, yet occasionally there will be a few cuter ones out, albeit mostly older and I have had pretty good luck with them in the past, and I noticed a dinky little thing who was in her early thirties making laps as well, so I decided to approach her. As I have done in the past, I take some coins out and handed them to her and did a close up inspection of her, if she had been a Sacalero, a druggie, or a smoker, I would of probably detected it which she wasn't, and she had a nice demeanor, so when she handed me three chiclets I gave her one back and chit chatted with her. I was in the mood for a dinky little thing and then she talked about going to the room. So instead of making her an offer, I just asked how much, and she said 20 K, and I asked if the blow job would be without a condom and the answer was of course which is a good sign! So I decided at this point to totally blow her off, but politely to see her reaction by telling her maybe later and she said okay and didn't get upset or angry whatsoever and she said she would be out for another few hours. So I decided to look for something else for a while and was getting tired so I found her and took her arriba. Upon entering the room I re-confirmed that the agreed upon price was 20 K and told her if she did a good job there would be a tip and that put a smile on her face and the clothes came off and after showering I gave her a massage which she was bit uncomfortable with to start with, and then gradually loosened up and got comfortable with me, and she was very skilled, deep throating me, and like the energizer bunny, and tight as a drum, and really got into it. I was a happy camper and asked her how much she makes selling candy and said typically it was between 15 k and 20 K and that she needed money to buy food for her kids. I really had a great time with her so I gave her 40 K total, and that may sound like I overpaid, but well worth it because next time I know exactly what I will be in for with her. So she gave me her son's cell phone number because she doesn't have one, and said she would be out Saturday morning at 8 AM and asked to see me again as she hit the jackpot with me, but so worth it as far as I was concerned!
So Saturday morning I got up and decided to hit the playground and arrived at 8:30 AM and the Chicas were streaming into ground zero, mostly Venezuelans though, and I took some laps around and noticied some of my regulars out but just nodded and around 10:30 AM I sat down on a bench and for the past few days tried to call one of my favorites who I call Tall, a Chica, and her phone number was not working, and I very much wanted to re-unite with her. She's 1.75 meters tall, a flaca, mid thirties, okay looking, very Colombiana form Estrato 1, and a trip to be with. So low, and behold, she appears out of nowhere and we hug and of course she had gotten a new number. Anyways, we checked into Premier Plaza and they have gotten really strict there asking not only for my document but for hers as well. They used to never ask for the Chica's ID unless they are young looking. So long story short, without getting into all the nasty details, she got two leche's out of me during the two hours we were together, and she is so passionate and such a trip to be with, albeit I can only understand about half of what says and was happy as a clam with the 50 K I gave her.
So now I have a potential dilemma on my hands. Maybe it's a good thing. I get back to my place and get a Whatsapp Message from my Tomboy, okay she says ok I can meet you at 3 PM today. So I immediately call her to confirm meeting, but back her off to 4 PM, and if she does show up, and I get her back to my place, I hope I'm recharged enough to leche because I'm probably going to get jumped by her, which in my case, since being a senior citizen, I guess would be considered elder abuse, but of the best kind.
US carriers operate on two different systems. Verizon and Sprint are on one system that is not compatible with Colombia and probably the rest of the world. The rest are on the same system as Colombia. For phones, it depends on the models or the chip they used. Some phone models can operate on both systems.Yes, I have also experienced this issue. Do not bring even unlocked phones that were bought through Verizon or Sprint to Colombia. At least for now. Maybe it's just me, but I feel the universality and interconnectivity on this planet is lagging behind the technology it supports.
Secret Is On Her Way Over Here Now. Jajajajajaja, actually, last time she said that it was I don't know how many days ago and she still has not arrived, jjajaja! My fall back is Einstienian Time Relativity, jaja.
Who would take a laptop to a cFE-Then leave it on the table unwatched while they use the restroom? I wouldn't do that in the Boca Del Vista country club if I was hanging out with Seinfeld's parents. Let alone in Medellin.ROFL. This message was extended to meet the ten character minimum. What is up with the auto-editor here? Jajajajjaaa.
JohnnyWalker55
02-27-21, 23:49
I spent Friday afternoon from about 3 PM to 6 PM in El Centro specifically in and around the Botero area. And I saw a very tall, thin gringo, easily over seven feet tall wearing a green shirt who was drawing quite a crowd. Anyone else around who saw this guy, he may have been closer to 7 feet 6 inches tall, and had quite an entourage following him around.I was standing against the yellow wall on the corner when you finish the walkway and he walked up to the chica standing next to me who mustve been 19 at most and he started spitting some serious game in good spanish with a heavy gringo accent hahah. He was wearing hiking / trekking shoes and a hikers backpack and some like hiker cargo pants. He gave no fucks hahahha. The entire street was looking at him as he bought the 5 ft chica a coke inside. Easily the tallest guy in the entire city jajajaj fearless.
DonCarlos1234
02-28-21, 00:26
I am scheduled in Medellin, a nice Airbnb March 24 - April 4. Anyone want to guess how many online escorts, Seeking girls, strip club girls, street girls, casa girls and normal girls will be available for sessions? My last visit to Medellin was near lock down. Sad.
PolloNegro
02-28-21, 00:34
I was standing against the yellow wall on the corner when you finish the walkway and he walked up to the chica standing next to me who mustve been 19 at most and he started spitting some serious game in good spanish with a heavy gringo accent hahah. He was wearing hiking / trekking shoes and a hikers backpack and some like hiker cargo pants. He gave no fucks hahahha. The entire street was looking at him as he bought the 5 ft chica a coke inside. Easily the tallest guy in the entire city jajajaj fearless.I've seen him many times, everyone stares! LOL Pollo Negro is out!
FrenchFeel23
02-28-21, 00:35
Hello Gentleman!
Anybody have any recommendations for love motels in the Poblado area. Looking for a cheap motel room to get a couple quickies in this are as my Airbnb in not chica friendly.
Reason why I'm looking for this is mostly for night time action. I don't want be venturing out in the El centro area at night and not looking to hit up the expensive parque Lleras scene too often.
Also when you guys are mongering in el Centro during the day time, any of you have go to hotels are you guys just headed to the closest one. Someone mentioned a dicey situation after letting the chica pick the establishment. I know I probably going to run into some bullshit from reading the post but I would rather plan ahead of time to minimize these situations.
Last but not least, I changed my Medellin dates from March 8th to 14th so if anybody is looking for a wingman to monger around I'm open to linking up. Us gringos have to look after each other in these streets.
I was standing against the yellow wall on the corner when you finish the walkway and he walked up to the chica standing next to me who mustve been 19 at most and he started spitting some serious game in good spanish with a heavy gringo accent hahah. He was wearing hiking / trekking shoes and a hikers backpack and some like hiker cargo pants. He gave no fucks hahahha. The entire street was looking at him as he bought the 5 ft chica a coke inside. Easily the tallest guy in the entire city jajajaj fearless.Kind of like the jolly green giant. On Saturday when I was at ground zero at 3:30 in the afternoon he was standing within a few feet of the street sign at Calle 52 & Carrea 52, aka ground zero, and was holding court. Everyone within a hundred foot radius of him from the Premium Plaza Hotel to Botero Park and around were totally fixated on him, the guy's a total tourist attraction for the locals, and I can just imagine when he takes Chicas arriba, those poor Chicas probably get lot's of questions asked by their co-worker's about the green giant's physical characteristics. Also saw a good street fight today between two sacaleros in the street, two Chicas, and pure entertainment. Never a dull moment at the playground, if it isn't a nympho nasty Chica draining your leche in one of the many love motels, there's always something happening outside to watch besides the constant parade of Chicas!
Boy have I ever missed this place!
Yes, I have also experienced this issue. Do not bring even unlocked phones that were bought through Verizon or Sprint to Colombia. At least for now. Maybe it's just me, but I feel the universality and interconnectivity on this planet is lagging behind the technology it supports.
Secret Is On Her Way Over Here Now. Jajajajajaja, actually, last time she said that it was I don't know how many days ago and she still has not arrived, jjajaja! My fall back is Einstienian Time Relativity, jaja.My Verizon phones have had no problems connecting in Medellin. Two different phones and I've used both extensively.
Hello Gentleman!
Anybody have any recommendations for love motels in the Poblado area. Looking for a cheap motel room to get a couple quickies in this are as my Airbnb in not chica friendly.
Reason why I'm looking for this is mostly for night time action. I don't want be venturing out in the El centro area at night and not looking to hit up the expensive parque Lleras scene too often.
Also when you guys are mongering in el Centro during the day time, any of you have go to hotels are you guys just headed to the closest one. Someone mentioned a dicey situation after letting the chica pick the establishment. I know I probably going to run into some bullshit from reading the post but I would rather plan ahead of time to minimize these situations.
Last but not least, I changed my Medellin dates from March 8th to 14th so if anybody is looking for a wingman to monger around I'm open to linking up. Us gringos have to look after each other in these streets.Bro,
I'm in the Poblado area we can link up, safety in numbers. Hit me up.
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LoveItHere69
02-28-21, 06:10
The tall slim guy is a nice guy from what I heard from some in his social circle. I only chatted him once and been near him 2 or 3 times when he was chatting with others. I feel for the guy. Think about it. When he travels there is NO bed that fits him. How the hell he even can take a leak on a plane is beyond me. When he stops to chat with other foreigners or the local girls there are locals that stand to his side or behind him and have their friends take photographs with him as the background like he is a carnival attraction. Complete strangers just walk up to him as if they know him and start asking stupid questions about his height.
Thanks for the report, but you may have missed a few things reading the thread.
The price at La Isla is 300 k. Streetwalkers in El Centro are 30-40 k. Regular girls generally run 150 k-250 k. Some can be had for less, some will expect more. There are too many variables to narrow it much further. Tinder girls are usually 200-250 k. Again, some will charge more, some less.
Hope you have a good week.Many thanks and I recently use this escort site, it's legit I order one today and yes it's only at the blux apartment. I haven't had an issue so far, I so tip my security guard.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/
The one that came today was a catfish; you know the typical Snapchat filters, even when I ask for more pics LOL but I negotiable 200 k her taxi and BBBJ and anal, two leche, that catfished lied only one nut, but whatever not going to get violence, all good.
Hello Gentleman!
Also when you guys are mongering in el Centro during the day time, any of you have go to hotels are you guys just headed to the closest one. Someone mentioned a dicey situation after letting the chica pick the establishment. I know I probably going to run into some bullshit from reading the post but I would rather plan ahead of time to minimize these situations.
Last but not least, I changed my Medellin dates from March 8th to 14th so if anybody is looking for a wingman to monger around I'm open to linking up. Us gringos have to look after each other in these streets.This has already been discussed here in a lot of detail. Recommendations include Zona Rosa and premier plaza. Zona Rosa is my go to. Not all girls will go with you to your preferred hotel for many reasons which again have been discussed here in depth. If she is not willing to go with you to your preferred hotel then you take your chances. On my first Centro experience I let the girl take me to a $6000 room on the strip behind Veracruz and it did the job.
Look through my previous posts where I ask these sorts of questions before my first trip, and take notes.
I was sitting around bored and high at 3 AM when I posted Pringles. Considering I got the most feedback from that post ever, I learned how out of touch I really am with readership here, LOL! Love you guys and keep it coming!
First, I usually never have this much cash in my room. I would normally use a safety deposit box, room safe, or just keep the minimum amount of caja I need. But the room had no safe and I was getting ready to go buy a Yamaha for Cat Girl and I was using cash to get the best deal possible.
Stuff the bills into the yellow panito bag. Now here is the important part. Layer a few old DRY panitos on top to hide the wad.
I have had TWO girls in here pick up the bag, open it, touch the dry panito inside and say, "Ohhh, nooo" and put the bag back down. Pretty sure each time that would have been the most money they ever had in their little hands at one time. Obvio I showed no reaction at any point.Must say Ostee, beyond all her craziness, Cat girl has the cutest nose ever, makes my knees weak. Well done bro.
Yes, I have also experienced this issue. Do not bring even unlocked phones that were bought through Verizon or Sprint to Colombia. At least for now. Maybe it's just me, but I feel the universality and interconnectivity on this planet is lagging behind the technology it supports.[Deleted by Admin] I have two Verizon phones brought from the USA here with me which work fine in Colombia, so guys who have Verizon service in the USA they will work fine here and you have an option for International service at $ 10 day, or you can buy a bundled package of texts, minutes, & data.
As far as bringing an unlocked Verizon phone to Colombia, unless you bring a registered Verizon SIM card with you, you won't be able to use the phone, at least that is what Verizon told me, and probably the source of the problem you experienced and a good warning for others but easily solved.
Before I came down I brought three registered Verizon SIM cards with me so all I have to do is put the SIM card in an unblocked Verizon or other system compatible phone, and the phone can be activated on line at least according to what I was told. I'm not a phone expert by any means, and know a lot of people don't like Verizon as their very expensive but the money is not an issue for me and I've had great customer service from them.
Hello Gentleman!
Anybody have any recommendations for love motels in the Poblado area. Looking for a cheap motel room to get a couple quickies in this are as my Airbnb in not chica friendly.
Reason why I'm looking for this is mostly for night time action. I don't want be venturing out in the El centro area at night and not looking to hit up the expensive parque Lleras scene too often.
Also when you guys are mongering in el Centro during the day time, any of you have go to hotels are you guys just headed to the closest one. Someone mentioned a dicey situation after letting the chica pick the establishment. I know I probably going to run into some bullshit from reading the post but I would rather plan ahead of time to minimize these situations.
Last but not least, I changed my Medellin dates from March 8th to 14th so if anybody is looking for a wingman to monger around I'm open to linking up. Us gringos have to look after each other in these streets.I don't know of any cheap love motels in Poblado. There's Las Cabanas, but it isn't cheap. There are cheap places in Mayorista and El Centro, but they're not in Poblado.
These are the type of questions better asked before you settle on a place to stay.
HappyShiva
02-28-21, 16:26
Booked my tickets for April 15th. Would like to meet my monger friends. Staying at San Peters for 12 days. Hope there won't be any curfew this time.
No. According to me, if a woman is attracted to you because you are wearing flashy and expensive jewelry, then she's not there for your sparkling personality. At that point her non-pro status is debatable.If according to you poor men with sparkling personalities can get more non-pros than rich men without sparkling personalities why do non-pros prefer to hang around the latter?
If according to you poor men with sparkling personalities can get more non-pros than rich men without sparkling personalities why do non-pros prefer to hang around the latter?Alpha females gravitate toward alpha males. End of story. By the way, there are only so many top quality girls to go around. Good luck.
The Tall Man
02-28-21, 17:36
I was standing against the yellow wall on the corner when you finish the walkway and he walked up to the chica standing next to me who mustve been 19 at most and he started spitting some serious game in good spanish with a heavy gringo accent hahah. He was wearing hiking / trekking shoes and a hikers backpack and some like hiker cargo pants. He gave no fucks hahahha. The entire street was looking at him as he bought the 5 ft chica a coke inside. Easily the tallest guy in the entire city jajajaj fearless.
I've seen him many times, everyone stares! LOL Pollo Negro is out!
Kind of like the jolly green giant. On Saturday when I was at ground zero at 3:30 in the afternoon he was standing within a few feet of the street sign at Calle 52 & Carrea 52, aka ground zero, and was holding court. Everyone within a hundred foot radius of him from the Premium Plaza Hotel to Botero Park and around were totally fixated on him, the guy's a total tourist attraction for the locals, and I can just imagine when he takes Chicas arriba, those poor Chicas probably get lot's of questions asked by their co-worker's about the green giant's physical characteristics. Also saw a good street fight today between two sacaleros in the street, two Chicas, and pure entertainment. Never a dull moment at the playground, if it isn't a nympho nasty Chica draining your leche in one of the many love motels, there's always something happening outside to watch besides the constant parade of Chicas!
Boy have I ever missed this place!
The tall slim guy is a nice guy from what I heard from some in his social circle. I only chatted him once and been near him 2 or 3 times when he was chatting with others. I feel for the guy. Think about it. When he travels there is NO bed that fits him. How the hell he even can take a leak on a plane is beyond me. When he stops to chat with other foreigners or the local girls there are locals that stand to his side or behind him and have their friends take photographs with him as the background like he is a carnival attraction. Complete strangers just walk up to him as if they know him and start asking stupid questions about his height.I have been The Tall Man on these boards for going on 20 years, he is The Slender Man, hehehehhe and yes my observations of him along with some friends of friends that know him, all have nothing but good things to say about him, a cool dude.
Shows that no matter our race or size or age we all need good loving!
The Tall Man.
If I understood the English correctly the young woman left her computer unattended or under the care of someone else while she went to the bathroom. That is not a robbery. That is theft. This is also a situation in which the victims shares some of the blame.Mr. Knowledge has spoken and he is right as usual (or as always hehe? ) .
If according to you poor men with sparkling personalities can get more non-pros than rich men without sparkling personalities why do non-pros prefer to hang around the latter?Starting the day drinking a bit early, aren't we? Is your life so empty that you have nothing better to do than make up things, attribute them to me and then call me out for something I didn't say? I never mentioned poor men. I never said rich men don't have sparkling personalities. One condition does not exclude the other.
I suppose I need to define all the terms.
Non-pro: A woman who is interested in engaging sexually with a man with no monetary compensation, required relationship or expectation of financial gain.
Maybe that's the part that's confusing you. There are guys here who send girls 4-10 million pesos a month, so the girl will fuck them for the 15 days they visit Colombia, and they call them "non-pro. " There are guys here who pick up a girl somewhere, spend the night with her, give her 500 k to help pay her college tuition and call her "non-pro. " There are guys who spend months buying presents, paying for trips, going shopping and supporting a girl with the intention of marrying her, and she's also "non-pro. " There are even guys who go to Gusto, pick up a girl who flat out tells them she wants $200 and still say she's a "non-pro."
Maybe you never had this experience, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has. You go to a bar, drink, dance and have a good time. You meet a girl. She goes home with you, you have sex. In the morning she gets up and goes home. Other than buying a couple of drinks, no money exchanged, no plans for her to move in with you, no months of support. Just a simple night of fucking, because you both felt like fucking. That's a non-pro. She's not looking for the guy with the big gold chain, or the nicest car. She's not looking for the guy throwing around the most money. She's looking for the guy who she thinks will fuck her the way she wants to be fucked.
Is that clear? I don't want you saying "according to you, short people don't eat enough pudding", or whatever else you decide you want me to say.
If you're walking around Medellin wearing 4 months of income for the average person around your neck, you're not attracting non-pros. You're attracting people who wish to relieve you of your excess jewelry and money. If you're sitting someplace in Medellin telling girls about how much money you have, you're not attracting non-pros. You're attracting girls who see an opportunity to get some of that money.
Alpha females gravitate toward alpha males. End of story. By the way, there are only so many top quality girls to go around. Good luck.Rich men are alpha males. Alpha females like only alpha males. Non alpha females would like to be with alpha males but there are only so many alpha males to go around.
RudeBwoy100
02-28-21, 19:16
Starting the day drinking a bit early, aren't we? Is your life so empty that you have nothing better to do than make up things, attribute them to me and then call me out for something I didn't say? I never mentioned poor men. I never said rich men don't have sparkling personalities. One condition does not exclude the other.
I suppose I need to define all the terms.
Non-pro: A woman who is interested in engaging sexually with a man with no monetary compensation, required relationship or expectation of financial gain.
Maybe that's the part that's confusing you. There are guys here who send girls 4-10 million pesos a month, so the girl will fuck them for the 15 days they visit Colombia, and they call them "non-pro. " There are guys here who pick up a girl somewhere, spend the night with her, give her 500 k to help pay her college tuition and call her "non-pro. " There are guys who spend months buying presents, paying for trips, going shopping and supporting a girl with the intention of marrying her, and she's also "non-pro. " There are even guys who go to Gusto, pick up a girl who flat out tells them she wants $200 and still say she's a "non-pro."
Maybe you never had this experience, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has. You go to a bar, drink, dance and have a good time. You meet a girl. She goes home with you, you have sex. In the morning she gets up and goes home. Other than buying a couple of drinks, no money exchanged, no plans for her to move in with you, no months of support. Just a simple night of fucking, because you both felt like fucking. That's a non-pro. She's not looking for the guy with the big gold chain, or the nicest car. She's not looking for the guy throwing around the most money. She's looking for the guy who she thinks will fuck her the way she wants to be fucked.
Is that clear? I don't want you saying "according to you, short people don't eat enough pudding", or whatever else you decide you want me to say.
If you're walking around Medellin wearing 4 months of income for the average person around your neck, you're not attracting non-pros. You're attracting people who wish to relieve you of your excess jewelry and money. If you're sitting someplace in Medellin telling girls about how much money you have, you're not attracting non-pros. You're attracting girls who see an opportunity to get some of that money.By your logic do you consider all women to be pros?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/married-men-earn-far-more-than-any-other-american-group/
Here's a snippet from the article above "At their income peak at age 47, married men earn an average of $86,502 per year, the report found. By comparison, single men who are 47 earn $49,288, not far off from the $45,672 earned by single women of the same age. Married women who are 47, meanwhile, earn almost $51,000. ".
Basically, if you're making median wage and below women aren't trying to date you seriously or looking to get married to you. Whether the woman asks for money up front or on the back end all women care about how much money you make and the lifestyle that you can provide for them.
...Hehehe. Welcome back! Always learn something interesting from you.
The Slender Man, hehehehhe and yes my observations of him along with some friends of friends that know him, all have nothing but good things to say about him.Slender Man amidst the Fat Statues. Is he cool enough to mount one of them (you know the one) for a photo-op.
Rich men are alpha males. Alpha females like only alpha males. Non alpha females would like to be with alpha males but there are only so many alpha males to go around.If there are, as you say, only so many alpha ('rich') males to go around, then there's hope for you to snare a top quality female!
Mr Enternational
02-28-21, 21:13
I suppose I need to define all the terms.
Non-pro: A woman who is interested in engaging sexually with a man with no monetary compensation, required relationship or expectation of financial gain.
Maybe that's the part that's confusing you. There are guys here who send girls 4-10 million pesos a month, so the girl will fuck them for the 15 days they visit Colombia, and they call them "non-pro. " Once again, the problem is that some guys look at pro as meaning professional. This means all a chick is doing for a living is fucking guys for money. They are seeing non-pro as being short for non-professional and meaning she only fucks guys for money every blue moon. She may be a student or have a normal job. Sometimes guys using the words this way will add civilian to mean a normal chick that does not take money for sex at all. Somehow they also add in semi-pro to mean she fucks for money sometimes, which seems to be the same as their usage of non-pro.
Those have never been my definintions. I have always seen pro as being short for prostitute or someone that exchanges money for sex, no matter how often they do it. I have always considered non-pro to mean non-prostitute, or a chick that does not take money for sex; the same as your definition.
The Tall Man
02-28-21, 21:16
Starting the day drinking a bit early, aren't we? Is your life so empty that you have nothing better to do than make up things, attribute them to me and then call me out for something I didn't say? I never mentioned poor men. I never said rich men don't have sparkling personalities. One condition does not exclude the other.
I suppose I need to define all the terms.
Non-pro: A woman who is interested in engaging sexually with a man with no monetary compensation, required relationship or expectation of financial gain.
Maybe that's the part that's confusing you. There are guys here who send girls 4-10 million pesos a month, so the girl will fuck them for the 15 days they visit Colombia, and they call them "non-pro. " There are guys here who pick up a girl somewhere, spend the night with her, give her 500 k to help pay her college tuition and call her "non-pro. " There are guys who spend months buying presents, paying for trips, going shopping and supporting a girl with the intention of marrying her, and she's also "non-pro. " There are even guys who go to Gusto, pick up a girl who flat out tells them she wants $200 and still say she's a "non-pro..Truer words than this expression have never been stated, which is "the only honest woman is a prostitute" and this is especially true here in Medellin.
I had a discussion with my gringo buddy this morning about this topic and he is finally coming around to the truths about life and culture and women here in Medellin.
So how to enjoy life here in Medellin? It is simple just follow these few basic fundamentals:
1. Never ever take any woman serious, period and end of discussion.
2. They are what they are, what their ingrained culture has placed into their DNA. You can not change them.
3. A barrio xxxxx, and my gawd we all love them, can never ever go outside her social economic status, so don't try, it will never work.
4. They all fuck around, they call them their gay amigos or primos or just a old school friend but they have and will return to their old fuck buddies, even the ladrones from the barrio because water seeks it's own level.
5. Some are better at lying than others but they are all very good at it. This is the way they were raised, the drama, the excitement of getting drunk and smoking some dope then allowing the corner boys in their barrio to fuck them raw and hard, so don't never ever think that these are sweet and caring little darlings.
Like the expression says the only honest woman is a prostitute and I am at the complete understanding, after so many years here in Colombia, that the only women that I respect are the prostitutes, I love them and their honesty.
And to all you sugar daddy's out there, I have tried talking some sense for over 2 fricken years now and as recently as yesterday, with my good buddy from the States. He comes once every 5 months to Medellin and he has 2 sugar babies, one from Manrique the other from Santo Domingo and he send 3 to 4 million a month to each one. He is doing better because he use to have 3 SB Urrrrrrrrrrr. But despite what I tell him he believes that they both are being true to him. My gawd what has this world come to. I have met both girls and nothing special, both have 2 and / or 3 kids, both late 20's, both he met at the massage casas in centro. Can anyone give me a shout-out as we watch this train wreak in the making! He is returning next week to Medellin.
I have had some who say they want a real honest serious boyfriend, then you learn that they have 2 or 3 kids by 3 different guys, they are mid 20 something and their kids are 10 yo and 7 yo and a newborn baby of 3 months. Go figure.
We love them all!
The Tall Man.
Rich men are alpha males. Alpha females like only alpha males. Non alpha females would like to be with alpha males but there are only so many alpha males to go around.No. Just no.
If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Jane Goodall first coined the term "alpha male" to explain the various male roles within primate communities. It's since been applied to wolves.
If you're a baboon and an alpha male, then you are rich, by baboon standards. If you're a baboon and rich, by baboon standards, you're not by definition an alpha male.
However, it all falls apart when applied to humans. Humans are more independently capable of survival. Humans are not dependent on a seasonal breeding period for procreation. Basically, we're not baboons, although it's often difficult to spot the differences.
If you're trying to say that only wealthy men, and all wealthy men, are alpha males and alpha females (rich females) are only interested in rich men, you are missing an incredible opportunity in the organic fertilizer business, because that is pure bullshit.
Did you miss the news about Jerry Falwell Jr? The rich (alpha) guy who got off watching his rich (alpha) wife fuck the pool boy. Although the pool boy turned the situation to his advantage, he certainly wasn't rich (alpha) when it all began, but she was definitely interested in him. And hanging out in the closet, jerking off while you're wife fucks pool boys and waiters doesn't quite fit the typical alpha male profile.
It's practically a cliche of wealthy women fucking the pool boy or the gardener. How many successful female singers have ended up having affairs with or marrying dancers? Elizabeth Taylor's last husband was a construction worker. Put on "Lying Eyes" by the Eagles while you digest that.
Unfortunately, at least for the guys out there with only money going for them, wealth does not equal alpha. If it does, why are you here? You appear to be saying that every woman in the world wants to be with you, or one of the limited number of your peer group. You should have hundreds of 18-40 (or whatever age you prefer) begging for a free night with you. You should have cards made up that say "My current net worth is $_ You're scheduled to fuck me at __am / pm on _date). " Just fill in the date and time and hand one out to any girl who interests you.
But, the world doesn't work that way, especially not in Colombia. You can spend as much money as you want. That chica from Manrique is still going to be thinking about some hood rat who bums money off her to buy weed. That's something you need to remember. They're fucking me, you and every other gringo to get money to spend on the guy they really want to be with.
The guys who forget that end up with a short, expensive lesson.
I have been The Tall Man on these boards for going on 20 years, he is The Slender Man, hehehehhe and yes my observations of him along with some friends of friends that know him, all have nothing but good things to say about him, a cool dude.
Shows that no matter our race or size or age we all need good loving!
The Tall Man.I guess there could be a debate on what handle to give this guy in the event he were to become a board member here. I called him the Jolly Green Giant as he was wearing a green shirt when I saw him, and you want to call him the Slender Man, yet he is taller than you, so shouldn't he be the Taller Man? LOL.
MarquisdeSade1
02-28-21, 22:21
Rich men are alpha males. Alpha females like only alpha males. Non alpha females would like to be with alpha males but there are only so many alpha males to go around.You're really overgeneralizing quite a bit, there are plenty of broke alpha males look at ex cons, bikers et al, and there are very effeminate rich betas ala Bezos Zuckerberg gates.
I have seen doods in SEA mongering that could pass for teen girls, but they are throwing around money, if you go there also don't tell me you have never seen it in Nana or Thermae any day of the week.
By your logic do you consider all women to be pros?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/married-men-earn-far-more-than-any-other-american-group/
Here's a snippet from the article above "At their income peak at age 47, married men earn an average of $86,502 per year, the report found. By comparison, single men who are 47 earn $49,288, not far off from the $45,672 earned by single women of the same age. Married women who are 47, meanwhile, earn almost $51,000. ".
Basically, if you're making median wage and below women aren't trying to date you seriously or looking to get married to you. Whether the woman asks for money up front or on the back end all women care about how much money you make and the lifestyle that you can provide for them.Maybe you should read my non-pro definition again. After I specifically stated that a relationship isn't part of the equation, you're quoting articles on relationships?
This is about mongering, or to be more correct, recreational sex. It's not about dating, building a relationship, getting married and living happily ever after.
If you're going to Medellin for sex, you're almost exclusively dealing with some variation of a pro. There's a shortage of young, beautiful women seeking casual sex with men, 30+ years older, who don't speak their language. Fortunately, Medellin has a full supply of women willing to fill that shortage for a reasonable price.
To answer your question, I don't consider all women pros.
Back when I was looking for women to date and maybe build a relationship with, I often went to bars. I met a lot of different types of women there. Occasionally a woman would let me know that she would be happy to come home with me, for a price. That would be a pro. Occasionally a woman would let me know that she planned to fuck my brains out. No money, no obligation, just sex. That would be a non-pro.
Of course there were other women, they would let me know they were interested in seeing me again. At some later point, if I followed up, there would be sex, commitment and all the rest. Those women are outside of the classification of pro and non-pro because casual sex (paid or unpaid) is not on the table.
I didn't read the article. Maybe later. However, for the purpose of this forum, it's missing one important number, disposable income. At a combined $138 k annually, how much money is available? Mortgage, often second mortgage, 2 or more car payments, kids, pets, family vacations, insurance, healthcare, kids sports, etc. , how much is left? How many of those married, 47 year old men are flying to Medellin for 10 days of off the charts sex? How many can afford it? How many wish they could be doing that instead of spending another night in front of the TV with their wife?
Back to your conclusion. There seem to be a few billion people who disagree. Otherwise, there wouldn't be so many poor people getting married and having kids.
...As far as bringing an unlocked Verizon phone to Colombia, unless you bring a registered Verizon SIM card with you, you won't be able to use the phone, at least that is what Verizon told me, and probably the source of the problem you experienced and a good warning for others but easily solved...I also have 2 Verizon phones, and I use one of them solely for traveling and mongering. I find the $10 per day Verizon charge fairly steep. When I get to Medellin, I put in a local SIM card. The whole thing costs about 20 k cops. Much cheaper.
I also have 2 Verizon phones, and I use one of them solely for traveling and mongering. I find the $10 per day Verizon charge fairly steep. When I get to Medellin, I put in a local SIM card. The whole thing costs about 20 k cops. Much cheaper.So your saying that a Verizon phone will work in Colombia with a local SIM card? I heard something different from another poster about this. But for guys with two phones that's very handy not needing to buy another phone in Colombia and get hammered by Verizon for $ 10 USD day. Regardless, my I phone doesn't leave my place, it's my lifeline to the USA, and I have a back-up I phone as well. The biggest issue is losing an American cell phone in Colombia and not being able to get the number back, hence my phones stay locked up, and having two phones, one as your lifeline, and the other as your mongering phone is the way to go.
MarquisdeSade1
03-01-21, 01:08
If there are, as you say, only so many alpha ('rich') males to go around, then there's hope for you to snare a top quality female!A well known anomaly in the mongering sphere is that most or at least many alpha mongers avoid alpha putas and seek out the beta putas.
Conversely the alpha putas hunt the beta mongers.
You can easily supplant the word alpha for masculine and beta for feminine.
Rich men are alpha males. Alpha females like only alpha males. Non alpha females would like to be with alpha males but there are only so many alpha males to go around.Rich men are definitely not always alphas. Considering many of them enjoy being tied up and beaten up by women.
I knew a woman who specialized in BDSM and was a dom.
At 1500 usd a session I would say all her clients are rich. And she had many.
1. Never ever take any woman serious, period and end of discussion.
2. They are what they are, what their ingrained culture has placed into their DNA. You can not change them.
3. A barrio xxxxx, and my gawd we all love them, can never ever go outside her social economic status, so don't try, it will never work.
4. They all fuck around, they call them their gay amigos or primos or just a old school friend but they have and will return to their old fuck buddies, even the ladrones from the barrio because water seeks it's own level.
5. Some are better at lying than others but they are all very good at it. This is the way they were raised, the drama, the excitement of getting drunk and smoking some dope then allowing the corner boys in their barrio to fuck them raw and hard, so don't never ever think that these are sweet and caring little darlings.
The Tall Man.My experience base after living in Medellin for three years straight up until the Pandemic is very different than yours, yet from my experience here, I can totally confirm what you are saying, and have never seen a post like yours so succinctly summing up reality here, albeit it won't matter to most.
You're really overgeneralizing quite a bit, there are plenty of broke alpha males look at ex cons, bikers et al, and there are very effeminate rich betas ala Bezos Zuckerberg gates.
I have seen doods in SEA mongering that could pass for teen girls, but they are throwing around money, if you go there also don't tell me you have never seen it in Nana or Thermae any day of the week.Actually the whole beta / alpha business is a false dichotomy. Have a read. Here's an excerpt.
"Taken together, the research suggests that the ideal man (for a date or romantic partner) is one who is assertive, confident, easygoing, and sensitive, without being aggressive, demanding, dominant, quiet, shy, or submissive. In other words, a prestigious man, not a dominant man."
https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/the_myth_of_the_alpha_male
P.S. Sounds like the above quote might fit either Gates or Zuckerberg or both, though I don't know either man.
Mr Enternational
03-01-21, 03:53
If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Jane Goodall first coined the term "alpha male" to explain the various male roles within primate communities. It's since been applied to wolves.
Actually the whole beta / alpha business is a false dichotomy.The guy that did the research with wolves said it was false as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ti86veZBjU
Booked my tickets for April 15th. Would like to meet my monger friends. Staying at San Peters for 12 days. Hope there won't be any curfew this time.Right now, my plan is to be at San Peter also about the same time (April 18) for 4 or 5 days. We'll meet up.
So your saying that a Verizon phone will work in Colombia with a local SIM card? I heard something different from another poster about this.I have not used Verizon or Spring for a while so my understanding maybe wrong. If the network support LTE, then it is supposed to work. If the network is 3 G or earlier, then it may not work because Verizon is on CDMA while others are on GSM. If you have a phone that supports both, then it will always work. It is easy to experiment. Borrow an ATT SIM card to try on your Verizon phone to find out.
MaddTraveler
03-01-21, 05:06
Rich men are alpha males. Alpha females like only alpha males. Non alpha females would like to be with alpha males but there are only so many alpha males to go around.[Deleted by Admin]
I personally know many Rich women whom you'd consider alphas that are dating poor men. A good acquaintance of mine is in her early 40, looks 30, rich with multiple own businesses. And now dating a buddy of mine who's only 26 yrs old, has no college edu and only couple hundreds in the bank.
Being an Alpha has nothing to do with money. I consider my buddy also an Alpha, cause he's confident, works out and women falls for him, and dude is funny as hell. Being an Alpha has to do with your confidence, your charm, look / charisma overall. Yes your finance matters but matters less if she has her own. Also no one. Men or women has all qualities to be Alphas, but you should have one or masterd one really well or a combination of a few.
For example women will fall for you for being rich even if ugly / fat, or same women or even better women will go for the poor dude with a big dick and six pack and will settle to live with you in your hut; or you have no money at all and average look but you're funny as hell, you have a wonderful personality etc. Yes our values and status in society matters, and yes most women do want a man with a title / career. But go way beyond the description of what this is. We're talking and naming Bill Gates and 1 in a Billion type of people and it's ridiculous. All real men basically are Alphas, someone who works hard, pay his damn bills, take care of his women and children and doesn't whine like a sissy, can throw a punch and defend his flock to protect his own.
Think of it like a scale of 1-10 in looks, and and another 1-10 in everything else (personality, money, etc.) - We men and women do the exact same. We will sacrifice look and go down to a 6 in looks if she's a 10 in personality, or if she's a 3 in personality, the look better be a 9-10. Women look at us the same way. There's no exact math or science, love is matter of the heart, and since bills must be paid, women (as they mature) usually will balance their love finding with what you can offer. Note that I mention "as they mature" this is important because the younger and the immature the woman, she will only go for vanity hence your look will matter more. Because at young age, she's in high school, college, living with parents with little to no responsibility, looks to them and your dance move in the club is what will attract them. But once mature and once life begins with all its hardships and surprises, they will give up the popular high school jock who's broke and they'll turn to the nerd that never got laid. Cause now the ugly fat belly nerd has money and has his own dominance.
Our current Sugar daddies are those guys, who can afford $5-$10 k allowance monthly for any beauty they want. Of course most men fall in between the Bill gate nerds and the poor jock who never left town, still riding dads' 1970 truck, no passport, working min wage and can barely read since never paid attention in school (somehow still was Prom King LOL). Bottom line, If you're not rich or successful you better look good or be one hell of guy. Alpha simply means you handle your biz as a man, one way or another and it's not only about rich money (Meaning average money and average working man still fall in the same category).
Mojo Bandit
03-01-21, 06:06
So your saying that a Verizon phone will work in Colombia with a local SIM card? I heard something different from another poster about this. But for guys with two phones that's very handy not needing to buy another phone in Colombia and get hammered by Verizon for $ 10 USD day. Regardless, my I phone doesn't leave my place, it's my lifeline to the USA, and I have a back-up I phone as well. The biggest issue is losing an American cell phone in Colombia and not being able to get the number back, hence my phones stay locked up, and having two phones, one as your lifeline, and the other as your mongering phone is the way to go.Over the years Verizon phones have changed but it still depends on the actual model of the phone, I used Verizon for years and my phone would used be be useless in Colombia. I had a cheap Chinese Galaxy clone dual SIM I used to carry down there. It did not work because not only does / did Verizon us CDMA technology but Verizon had them locked. Then when Google made the first deal with Verizon to sell their Google Pixel Phone they required that Verizon sell the phone "unlocked". Google was also selling the phone themselves in their Google Store so each phone is made as a multi band to work on any network. Now other phones have followed and I am fairly sure that all phones made by major manufacturers that sell through Verizon are multiband and work on most networks. Google Pixel phones also have the capability of being dual SIM because they have an eSIM capabilty, so when I am traveling I can keep my original number in case people at home are trying to contact me, and I download an eSIM from Google Fi to use when traveling because they do not charge for roaming and the data is reasonable. This is really handy if you are traveling to more than one country. I am posting an image of the description of a Galaxy S21 5 G, Apple iPhone SE (2020), ad the cheapo Galaxy A01 . According to this article linked below, Verizon only demands that your phone be locked to their network to the first 60 days. This article also addresses how to get it unlocked.
All that being said, I am not going to argue with your reasoning of having one phone locked up for your lifeline and carrying a monger phone. It is a safe way to go. I would suggest to anyone that wanted a travel phone to go online and find a phone that works on Colombia's networks. According to medellinguru dot com -
https://medellinguru.com/cell-phones/#text=The%20 GSM%20850%20 and%20 GSM, will%20 not%20 work%20 in%20 Colombia.
"The GSM 850 and GSM 1900 bands are used in Colombia for cell phones. If your unlocked cell phone supports GSM 850 and GSM 1900 bands it should work in Colombia. Most noteworthy, a CDMA phone will not work in Colombia. ".
For people that travel between multiple countries I suggest finding a phone that advertises as dual SIM and "quad band" or "global phone" etc because these work in most countries.
Lastly if a person is traveling between different countries and wants flexibility, if you do the research on compatible phones they could look at buying a used cell phone that is compatible with Google Fi, cost for service is 20 USD per month for service then 10 USD per GB data, there are no contracts so I cancel after one month, the advantage is no matter which country you land in you can use the same SIM and at most have to turn your phone off and on to lock into a signal when you land in a different country, I have used Google Fi in the Colombia, UK, Mexico, France, Spain, and the Czech Republic. The last three all in the same trip and the same SIM.
Lucky Nuts
03-01-21, 06:25
I have not used Verizon or Spring for a while so my understanding maybe wrong. If the network support LTE, then it is supposed to work. If the network is 3 G or earlier, then it may not work because Verizon is on CDMA while others are on GSM. If you have a phone that supports both, then it will always work. It is easy to experiment. Borrow an ATT SIM card to try on your Verizon phone to find out.There are no networks left that are only 3G or earlier. There are no phones left that are only CDMA or only GSM. All phones made in the last few years have a multi-band modem supporting all networks. All you need to worry about anymore is that your phone is not "locked" because you bought it on a monthly contract plan from your service provider. Personally I buy a new one each year or two at Ktronix in Pablado for about $100 worth of pesos. Like Surfer my real phone is always in the room safe.
There are no networks left that are only 3G or earlier. The problem is prepaid SIM in some countries only support 3 G.
There are no phones left that are only CDMA or only GSM. All phones made in the last few years have a multi-band modem supporting all networks. I am pretty sure this is inaccurate so I decided to look it up. These iPhone models are GSM only Model A1778, A1905, MWMC2 B / A. The last one is iPhone 11.
Truer words than this expression have never been stated, which is "the only honest woman is a prostitute" and this is especially true here in Medellin.
I had a discussion with my gringo buddy this morning about this topic and he is finally coming around to the truths about life and culture and women here in Medellin.
So how to enjoy life here in Medellin? It is simple just follow these few basic fundamentals:
1. Never ever take any woman serious, period and end of discussion.
2. They are what they are, what their ingrained culture has placed into their DNA. You can not change them.
3. A barrio xxxxx, and my gawd we all love them, can never ever go outside her social economic status, so don't try, it will never work.
4. They all fuck around, they call them their gay amigos or primos or just a old school friend but they have and will return to their old fuck buddies, even the ladrones from the barrio because water seeks it's own level..All of the above is something everyone should keep in mind. I won't say it applies 100% to every chica, but it helps to keep your perspective. Once you lose that perspective, it can get expensive real quick.
There are no networks left that are only 3G or earlier. There are no phones left that are only CDMA or only GSM. All phones made in the last few years have a multi-band modem supporting all networks. All you need to worry about anymore is that your phone is not "locked" because you bought it on a monthly contract plan from your service provider. Personally I buy a new one each year or two at Ktronix in Pablado for about $100 worth of pesos. Like Surfer my real phone is always in the room safe.You might try shopping at Centro Comercial Monterrey, right across from the Poblado metro station. There are probably 30 stores selling phones in there. It's about the best place around to get good prices on electronics.
Mojo Bandit
03-01-21, 09:26
According to this article linked below, Verizon only demands that your phone be locked to their network to the first 60 days. This article also addresses how to get it unlocked.
.https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/verizon-unlocking-guide
Mojo Bandit
03-01-21, 09:38
It is easy to experiment. Borrow an ATT SIM card to try on your Verizon phone to find out.The experiment would only work if the Verizon phone is unlocked, I posted the article that talks about how to unlock it.
The experiment would only work if the Verizon phone is unlocked, I posted the article that talks about how to unlock it.I knew there were was at least one BM here way above my pay grade and technically savvy when it comes to phones, and the information you posted should be very helpful to the younger guys as I am totally old school and walk the streets of Medellin with my $ 30 USD dum dum burner phone, yet it is a NOKIA with an extremely long battery life and hasn't fallen apart. I was gone from mid March of last year until November and it immediately fired up and while I was gone every two months I would re-charge it with 5,000 Pesos from the USA so I didn't lose CLARO my number.
I think the real issue about phones for guys that monger is what happens if they have a USA cell with them, and they lose the phone, will they be able to immediately replace the phone with their same number, hence having two phones makes sense, but for guys who can remedy this situation like you can immediately because your technically savvy then no need for it.
Unfortunately with the advent of smart phones and how we literally conduct are lives with our phones, losing one with everything on it would be like losing your legs, hence mine stays locked up, and this trip I have a second I phone with a separate USA number in case I lose my primary phone while travelling intecountry like to other Cities, if I were to lose it, I have a backup phone with all my Apps which I can utilize.
So with my dum dum burner phone I have three phones, one for the streets, one for exclusive use in my place and when I travel intercountry, and an emergency American I phone back up. This may sound extreme to some paying for two Verizon phone lines, but actually because I have a business account I ended up with two I phone 12 P Pro's for the price of one, and the second phone line for no charge which I don't really need as I could just slip in a Verizon SIM card which I brought as well.
...Non-pro: A woman who is interested in engaging sexually with a man with no monetary compensation, required relationship or expectation of financial gain......Dude all women want material gain from a man in some form or fashion unless they are old and butt ugly which I suspect are the ´non-pros´ you have been in bed with.
Newbie here, preparing for my first trip.
Does anyone have a packing list for what to pack and wear to fit in with locals during the day (jeans, Nikes, and t-shirts or polo shirts?) and for going out at night for dinner and dancing? Dressing to not attract the thieves or repel the ladies. .Plain t shirt (navy, black) jeans and nikes are fine. Don't wear a watch. Just be confident and walk like you know what you're doing.
Elvis 2008
03-01-21, 15:06
Yeah, the only thing the older men who do not speak Spanish have to offer hot Colombian women is cash. Seriously?
I think what is so funny about that is that I am teaching the women around me without even knowing I am doing it. One of my gals was talking about retiring by building apartments and renting them. I talked to her about the rule of 72, currency risk, and interest rates just by telling her what yield I would need to get in such venture rather than just putting money in a REIT that paid dollars versus apartments paying pesos. I was not even telling her what she should do but telling her what I would need to see before putting money in. I was showing her a superior thought process without even realizing I was doing so. It changed her future plans.
She reminded me the other day that she learned so much being around me. We must be living in different worlds JJBee because the women I see are dying for guidance, kindness, and wisdom. What I have found is you show women a path to a better life and they cannot fuck you fast enough.
Elvis 2008
03-01-21, 15:47
And to all you sugar daddy's out there, I have tried talking some sense for over 2 fricken years now and as recently as yesterday, with my good buddy from the States. He comes once every 5 months to Medellin and he has 2 sugar babies, one from Manrique the other from Santo Domingo and he send 3 to 4 million a month to each one. He is doing better because he use to have 3 SB Urrrrrrrrrrr. But despite what I tell him he believes that they both are being true to him. My gawd what has this world come to. I have met both girls and nothing special, both have 2 and / or 3 kids, both late 20's, both he met at the massage casas in centro. Can anyone give me a shout-out as we watch this train wreak in the making! He is returning next week to Medellin.I love you TM, but you are wrong about what a sugar daddy is. A sugar daddy is someone who is interested in something more than just sex for money. For the woman it is giving sex and emotion. For the men, it is giving money and having emotion.
Are the women you hang out with just in it for money or do they hang out with you even when there is no chance of getting a dime? Then you are their sugar daddy.
Do you push the women away from you when you are done having sex with them and have no interest in them outside of sex? If you are not doing that, then they are sugar babies.
Yes, a working girl-john relationship is 100% about money for sex. A pure BF-GF is supposed to be 0% about money for sex. Why is there not room for something in the middle?
As for your buddy, he is a fool looking to delude himself into using money to get a supposedly pure BF-GF relationship. He is paying for affection and the women are more than happy to take his money and to feed into that delusion.
There is a saying in the alpha manosphere "A woman is not yours. She is your turn. " More than ever, men do not own women. That first part of her being yours, which is what your buddy is paying for, is his first mistake. You cannot control what the women do when you are not around, and you should just enjoy them when you are around them because that is when it is just your turn.
The monthly allowance is an American invention to skirt prostitution laws. There is no purpose for it where prostitution is legal, and the monthly allowance is not IMO what defines a sugar relationship.
As for the phrase, the only honest woman is a prostitute, I like it because I think people twist themselves into a pretzel lying to themselves trying to say there is no money for sex component to a relationship, but I think you are missing how you are putting yourself down with that phrase.
You are pretty much saying any woman who wants to hang out with you or fuck you is either out for money or dishonest. That is not just a cynical outlook but you are putting yourself down. It is a defense so you will not get hurt again, and I get it.
Most marriages I see were based on mutual attraction, but time after time, they evolve or rather devolve into basically parasitic relationships where men would get better value for their money dumping their spouses and seeing hookers. How many wives have gone from giving good head to (as Rodney Dangerfield would say) giving good headache?
The reason I like the SB SD relationships is because there is an emotional component and I do allow myself to care about the women but if the women become bad company, start to shame or nag, and are no longer interested in sexually performing, they are gone.
I do not know why we are trained to marry for richer or poorer and for better or worse. The women do not behave like that is true, and men should not either. The women only love us when we perform, and we should be the same way with them.
Well my Tomboy finally showed up Saturday afternoon, and I have been evaluating her cleaning skills the past two days as I don't have a housekeeper, and this is a service I expect of the ones I allow in my place, and this one has taken like a duck to water and will get to return.
She was wearing this see thru top while mopping the bathroom floor, and her titties were flopping around, and she was shaking her little ass, while pushing and pulling on the mop, and I imagined penetrating her in doggie and could not resist mounting her on the bed, shame on me!
HolyTrinity
03-01-21, 16:54
Has anybody found a monthly rental in Veracruz near all the action? I used the search function but couldn't find anything. I just want a super cheap place to bring chicas instead of a sketchy place I'm not comfortable in.
DavidMur28
03-01-21, 17:52
Right now, my plan is to be at San Peter also about the same time (April 18) for 4 or 5 days. We'll meet up.Hey,
I am arriving tomorrow. I was reading recent reviews of San Peters and people were saying that SP was not allowing guests due to the covid capacity restrictions. It is my first time in Medellin, why does everyone like SP so much when there are so many options in Laurels?
If anyone wants to grab a beer this week PM me. Always good to have a fellow gringo looking out for you.
I meant to do this a couple of weeks ago when this topic was being actively discussed, but better late than never. When I was in Medellin in Jan 2021, I took out cash several times from Servibanco ATM's. On two occasions, I kept details on the conversion rate I was declining so that I could calculate how much money I was saving by declining. On Jan 23, I saved $13 on a 900,000 peso ($259) ATM withdrawal by declining the 3,310 conversion rate. The better, wholesale rate of 3,477 I received (after reviewing my statement back in the US) represented a 5% improvement (or $13) over the rate I declined. On Jan 26, I saved $10 on a 1,000,000 peso ($284) ATM withdrawal by declining the 3,403 conversion rate. The better, wholesale rate of 3,525 I received represented a 3.6% improvement (or $10) over the rate I declined. I hope this quantification helps people realize that they need to decline the offered US $-COP conversion.
Dude all women want material gain from a man in some form or fashion unless they are old and butt ugly which I suspect are the non-pros you have been in bed with.Dude,
Have you never heard of lesbians? And why wouldn't old and butt ugly women also want financial gain in some form or fashion? They may be less able to get it, but if, as you say all women want it, why would you exclude those women?
I'm guessing you had a sheltered upbringing. Women, believe it or not, like sex too. I'd say, if you're doing it right, they enjoy sex more than we do. Of course, not many do it right, which is why female sex toys are such popular items. It's not hard to find a woman who just wants some good sex, although once you pass a certain age, the younger ones take a lot more work. The only reason I started mongering about 8 or 9 years ago was because I didn't want to put in the work, and didn't want to settle for the low hanging fruit.
At least we finally got down to the core issue. You don't know me, have never met me (as far as I know), yet decided you want to fight me, at least online. Heck, I'll even post an old picture, to make it easier to spot me. Just add some grey, a few wrinkles and a few pounds.
Being called "dude" brings back memories. Last time anyone called me that was 1990 in Pacific Beach. Ended up costing him $100 all because I got tired of the guy calling me dude.
Newbie here, preparing for my first trip.
Does anyone have a packing list for what to pack and wear to fit in with locals during the day (jeans, Nikes, and t-shirts or polo shirts?) and for going out at night for dinner and dancing? Dressing to not attract the thieves or repel the ladies. .Jeans, T-shirts, polo shirts, maybe one nice button down shirt for dancing, comfortable walking shoes, a light rain jacket and that's about it. No jewelry. Leave your high dollar sunglasses at home.
Leave your wallet locked up. I carry cash, and an ATM card, if I'm going to an ATM, plus my ID. For ID I carry my US Passport Card. It's recommended you carry a photocopy of your passport, including the entry stamp. Some guys take a photo and keep it on their phone.
Carry your phone in a front pants pocket.
This may sound extreme to some paying for two Verizon phone linesNot to me, I have more lines and phones than you travelling with me. I even carry an extra monitor sometimes. Haha.
But my reply is mainly to inform you that you don't need physical SIM for your new phone. It has eSim that you should be able to call to enable. I am not Verizon user so YMMV.
Mojo Bandit
03-01-21, 19:25
I love you TM, but you are wrong about what a sugar daddy is. A sugar daddy is someone who is interested in something more than just sex for money. For the woman it is giving sex and emotion. For the men, it is giving money and having emotion.
.The man may get emotionally involved but there is zero guarantee that the sugar baby is returning anything except putting on a show. I realize that every situation is different and different things come out of different relationships because not every one is the same, but the primary motive for the sugar baby is money.
On the very first episode of Saturday Night Live on the first episode of Weekend Update so it would have been in 1975, Chevy Chase tells this one "The Post Office announced today that it is going to issue a stamp commemorating prostitution in the United States, it is a 10 cent stamp, but if you want to lick it it, its a quarter".
The only difference between a sugar baby and regular prostitute in many cases is that it is less likely that she is fucking other guys for money.
The Tall Man
03-01-21, 19:30
Truer words than this expression have never been stated, which is "the only honest woman is a prostitute" and this is especially true here in Medellin.
I had a discussion with my gringo buddy this morning about this topic and he is finally coming around to the truths about life and culture and women here in Medellin.
So how to enjoy life here in Medellin? It is simple just follow these few basic fundamentals:
1. Never ever take any woman serious, period and end of discussion.
2. They are what they are, what their ingrained culture has placed into their DNA. You can not change them.
3. A barrio xxxxx, and my gawd we all love them, can never ever go outside her social economic status, so don't try, it will never work.
4. They all fuck around, they call them their gay amigos or primos or just a old school friend but they have and will return to their old fuck buddies, even the ladrones from the barrio because water seeks it's own level..
My experience base after living in Medellin for three years straight up until the Pandemic is very different than yours, yet from my experience here, I can totally confirm what you are saying, and have never seen a post like yours so succinctly summing up reality here, albeit it won't matter to most.
All of the above is something everyone should keep in mind. I won't say it applies 100% to every chica, but it helps to keep your perspective. Once you lose that perspective, it can get expensive real quick.
I love you TM, but you are wrong about what a sugar daddy is. A sugar daddy is someone who is interested in something more than just sex for money. For the woman it is giving sex and emotion. For the men, it is giving money and having emotion.
Are the women you hang out with just in it for money or do they hang out with you even when there is no chance of getting a dime? Then you are their sugar daddy.
Do you push the women away from you when you are done having sex with them and have no interest in them outside of sex? If you are not doing that, then they are sugar babies.
Yes, a working girl-john relationship is 100% about money for sex. A pure BF-GF is supposed to be 0% about money for sex. Why is there not room for something in the middle?
As for your buddy, he is a fool looking to delude himself into using money to get a supposedly pure BF-GF relationship. He is paying for affection and the women are more than happy to take his money and to feed into that delusion.
There is a saying in the alpha manosphere "A woman is not yours. She is your turn. " More than ever, men do not own women. That first part of her being yours, which is what your buddy is paying for, is his first mistake. You cannot control what the women do when you are not around, and you should just enjoy them when you are around them because that is when it is just your turn.
The monthly allowance is an American invention to skirt prostitution laws. There is no purpose for it where prostitution is legal, and the monthly allowance is not IMO what defines a sugar relationship.
As for the phrase, the only honest woman is a prostitute, I like it because I think people twist themselves into a pretzel lying to themselves trying to say there is no money for sex component to a relationship, but I think you are missing how you are putting yourself down with that phrase..Lots of good responses from my post (and some great private messages from your guys and your experiences reinforcing the bullet points), and as Elvis alludes to the very best poignant saying that you MUST NEVER EVER forget is "She is not YOUR girl rather it's just your TURN", and this applies in 100% of the situations (both pro and non-pro) be it if your seeking wifely material or a GF or a bit more serious relationship then the typical 45 minute fuck session.
The Tall Man.
The only difference between a sugar baby and regular prostitute in many cases is that it is less likely that she is fucking other guys for money.But not less likely she is fucking other guys.
Truer words than this expression have never been stated, which is "the only honest woman is a prostitute" and this is especially true here in Medellin.
I had a discussion with my gringo buddy this morning about this topic and he is finally coming around to the truths about life and culture and women here in Medellin.
So how to enjoy life here in Medellin? It is simple just follow these few basic fundamentals:
1. Never ever take any woman serious, period and end of discussion.
2. They are what they are, what their ingrained culture has placed into their DNA. You can not change them.
3. A barrio xxxxx, and my gawd we all love them, can never ever go outside her social economic status, so don't try, it will never work.
4. They all fuck around, they call them their gay amigos or primos or just a old school friend but they have and will return to their old fuck buddies, even the ladrones from the barrio because water seeks it's own level.
5. Some are better at lying than others but they are all very good at it. This is the way they were raised, the drama, the excitement of getting drunk and smoking some dope then allowing the corner boys in their barrio to fuck them raw and hard, so don't never ever think that these are sweet and caring little darlings..There's just too many women here to get stuck up on one LOL.
We love these hot women who sell their pussies and put our dick in their mouths but when I see these girls showing up with expensive items that they'd never buy or possibly afford it just makes me laugh.
I am guilty of over paying girls at times yes. But never get it twisted I pay for my pleasure.
Not to impress a prostitute. I respect the ones that accept who they are and willing to be open about it.
But it's hilarious how many of them try to play the angel with sad story role.
MongerHunger
03-02-21, 00:37
There has been reports of a 5. 1 magnitude earthquake near Medellin. Did anybody feel it?
MongerHunger
03-02-21, 02:37
Its my fetish too. I turned this daddies estrato 6 girl that goes to ubp into my sucia puta. It's ironic how she's been waited on her whole life and now she waits on me hand and foot. Including eating my dirty ass😈. We have a 50 shades of grey type of thing going. Except I'm not a billionaire LOL.Waoooo. That's the most expensive puta I ever seen. I bet that she is enjoying that payday. Talk about overpaying. Geez! LOL.
Bulevard Botero or Zona Rosa across from Premium Plaza are in the thick of things but on the safer front side of the church. They will make you a long term deal for a room on the upper floors. Long term for them means a daily rate. In case I need to mention this, you don't want to leave anything there other than toiletries and towels.
Has anybody found a monthly rental in Veracruz near all the action? I used the search function but couldn't find anything. I just want a super cheap place to bring chicas instead of a sketchy place I'm not comfortable in.
Has anybody found a monthly rental in Veracruz near all the action? I used the search function but couldn't find anything. I just want a super cheap place to bring chicas instead of a sketchy place I'm not comfortable in.You're unlikely to find anything right there. Why rent something out for 25 k per day at a monthly rate, when you can rent it out 8 times a day for 10 k each time?
There was a place located a block from New Life and Aiffe that was pretty decent. I think around $15 daily. It was on Airbnb. A friend stayed there before and I saw the place. Pretty good for the price.
PepolesBuddy
03-02-21, 04:06
Waoooo. That's the most expensive puta I ever seen. I bet that she is enjoying that payday. Talk about overpaying. Geez! LOL.Flexing and paying are two different things parce LOL but I do give her 300 mil for cleaning cleaning my apartment twice a month.
SlapShot10
03-02-21, 04:09
Friday:
Went to Centro in the afternoon. Another failure. Although, I didn't have a ton of time. I saw Slender Man getting more attention than a zombie on a unicycle juggling flaming torches in the middle of San Juan. There was a scuffle and a chase right when I rounded the corner behind the church. I saw the girl I always consider going with. She is on the west side of Avenida Cundinamarca, south of Calle 52, one spot in from the corner, where the stairway is. She has a sexy look but a bit too much like a druggy, some shitty tattoos, and one time I was close enough to notice unshaved legs. I can't do it. It was a little grimy and busy, so I ended up ducking into Conejitas. Had a 29yo Vennie tell me 500k all-night and 350k short-time. I explained to her, in detail, how she's fucking crazy. Had 3/4 of a pitcher of beer and left. Made one more lap then headed home. Ended up in Gusto later that night, and got a few numbers. One cute chick caught my eye, we did a little dancing, but her price was too high. Whisker-free living continues.
Headed out to Calle 10 to grab a DiDi with my two buddies. One took a black chick home, and the other hopped in with me and a couple of Vennies. They agreed to 200k each. I paid for my buddy, who is a local. Well, when we get back to my apartment, he says he has to leave to give his sister his moto. So, I figured it was threesome time. Pet peeve time, as the chica wants to blow me with a condom on, before I'm even hard. I have one blowing me and one riding my face. The girl blowing me then asks who I want to fuck. The shit hits the fan. We start arguing as I said I paid, another red flag, each of them 200k so I intend to fuck both of them. The mood is ruined. I get pissed because I already paid and didn't get what I paid for. I was fucked up after drinking all night, by the way. I told them I'm calling the cops and the portero isn't going to let them leave. They essentially call my bluff, and did their own little routine of pretending to memorize my apartment number. I message the portero that they've robbed me and to not let them leave. Explaining all this shit in Spanish is not easy at 4am. So, I go down to the lobby and the girls are there with the young portero. They're being a bit aggressive and louder than I'd like, and the portero isn't exactly helping, as he's listening to their version of the story more than trying to diffuse the situation and do me any favors. Anyway, at some point the petite one almost challenges me to fuck her. I say, let's fucking go. We end up going upstairs and doing a passionate deed. It was wild. She took my number and said she wants to come back. Fucking gringo.
Saturday:
Gusto girl comes over. She wanted 350 k for an hour or 700 k for the night. I offered 200 k + DiDis. She said 300 k minimum. I say ok but no taxis and oral sin condon. Done deal. She has something sexy about her. She was wearing overalls and a little tube top in Gusto, and her eyes are naughty. I found out after that she has a child, and is 23 yo. She also has a boyfriend in Miami. She goes to the tanning spa to get the Brazilian style tan lines, which I don't love but whatever. Good session and I could tell she was very curious about me. She offered to have a trio, after we established that I have a novia.
Sunday:
Got super fucked up drinking all day and night.
Monday:
Felt like shit, walked to get cash and the ATM had no money so I ended up walking over an hour roundtrip to get money. I crushed a Pedialyte and sweated it out, a bit. Had a Tinder girl arrive at 530p. She wanted 350k. I originally offered 300k if she could come quickly, or 470k if she came for a trio later in the week. She had told me she needed 470k for servicios or something. We agree on 300k + DiDis. She speaks decent English, but didn't look as good as her photos. She carries herself well, and is tall, but fake tits, fake ass, fake lips, and fake teeth. She was a terrible kisser. Again, CBJ, which I hate. The fuck was ok, and she offered herself for a trio before leaving. Some guys would probably really enjoy her, but there was something about it that just didn't do it for me. A bit of a letdown but not a terrible experience. I forget how old she is, and I also forgot her name when she asked me in the jacuzzi. Princesa was a solid response, though.
730p one of my favorites arrives. She lives with her girlfriend, so it's difficult to get in touch with her. Previously, I had two threesomes with her and my quarantine novia (esposita). Those are the only times she's stepped out on her girl. We didn't discuss price. If you go back in my posts, there are photos of her in a bikini, I think. It was raining, so we ended up not using the jacuzzi. We had rappi delivery for dinner, then ended up putting some music on and going to the bedroom. She was wearing a tight little dress and looked super cute. She's got an amazing petite body with long dark hair and a triple tongue ring. She might actually be my favorite. Cute little panties, and we started with her straddling my face. After her O, she had a swig of vodka and started blowing me. I was fingering her as she did it, for her second O. Condom on and her on top. Her pussy is extremely tight, as she doesn't take dick, normally. Not quite as tight as Coin Slot, but tight enough where she was yelping and trying to ease into it. Great fuck. As she was leaving, I gave her 250k. She looked at photos of Pinky and wants a threesome. She posted a story on her IG about her GF going to her first day of work, this morning. I knew it was the perfect time to send her a message. She asked me to send another message about having dinner and talking, so she could show her GF. 19yo.
Pinky arrives at 5am, and my condom drawer is telling a wild fucking story. I forgot to buy more at the mall, today.
That earthquake was shaking good at my place in Laureles on the 10th floor. The first chica of the evening was here and had goosebumps. It was nothing for an LA/LV guy. I told her it was probably a 5.0 and she was amazed when she looked it up and saw it was indeed a 5.0 magnitude. The second chica said she didn't even feel it in Loma.
*Photos in order, but didn't get any photos of the Vennie duo.
Guys,
A regular that I knew from last MDE trip, walked away with my iPad and laptop along with a pair of shoes and perfumes that I had given her.
She has responded back voa text saying she thought those were gifts as well.
Obviously she is avoiding me now for few days and bullshitting that her grandfather is sick etc.
And we had an argument and now she claims they were for her time.
I have copy of her ID, Do I report her to police as a scam so that she does not do it again?
Or.
Suck it up as lessons learnt.
I was told that I could file an online denuncia. But is it worth the hassle?
You know that feeling when you feel cheated and taken advantage of,.
Any suggestions bros?
Thanks.
Mr Enternational
03-02-21, 06:42
She was wearing overalls and a little tube top in Gusto, and her eyes are naughty. I found out after that she has a child, and is 23 yo. She also has a boyfriend in Miami. She goes to the tanning spa to get the Brazilian style tan lines, which I don't love but whatever.Today was my brother's first time in Brazil. We go out to the hood. There was one sexy chick with those tan lines. He asked me if they all went to the beach to get tan lines like that. In 20 years I had never thought to ask. So I asked the girl. She said that she gets them laying out on the roof of her building. When she told me where she lives, I was surprised her building even has a roof.
Newbie here, preparing for my first trip.
Does anyone have a packing list for what to pack and wear to fit in with locals during the day (jeans, Nikes, and t-shirts or polo shirts?) and for going out at night for dinner and dancing? Dressing to not attract the thieves or repel the ladies. .Also consider a pacsafe travel safe. Mine just arrived, the 5 L version. I'm really pleased with it and it definitely would have come in handy on my last trip when I moved out of San P.
Mojo Bandit
03-02-21, 14:43
. Except I'm not a billionaire LOL.From the looks of the wads of cash it looks like you are giving her you could have fooled me into thinking you are a billionaire LOL.
... Women, believe it or not, like sex too....What a surprise! Even prostitutes?
FYI there is something that women like more than sex, that's money.
Young and beautiful women would rather use toys than fuck a man who they know can´t give them anything.
From the looks of the wads of cash it looks like you are giving her you could have fooled me into thinking you are a billionaire LOL.Very very dangerous, can't believe nobody told him how dangerous that is, but I bet her boyfriend, gang member, taxi driver, or whoever she tells all about that money is also going to eat his "Dirty"ass also!
Elvis 2008
03-02-21, 17:56
What a surprise! Even prostitutes?
FYI there is something that women like more than sex, that's money.
Young and beautiful women would rather use toys than fuck a man who they know cant give them anything.Turgid, do not even bother. He is just spewing this crap about how all women want a broke ass old man like him.
What you are talking about is hypergamy, women using men to swing to higher financial and social positions. It is well known and not even debated. This constant means to move up kind of gets hidden in Hollywood's all women are angels caricatures so we men have to tell each other about it and remind each other about how women really are.
The notion that women want sex as much as we do is pure BS too. Men have way higher testosterone levels than women and of course, a way higher sex drive. The manosphere guys says 17 X higher on average but on average to me is meaningless.
Two women I knew got hold of some spare testosterone. They injected themselves with it to see what would happen. The injectable type takes about a week to peak. At first, they were like "You men are full of shit. This is nothing. " Then day 5 hit and they called up a good looking friend of theirs and asked if he wanted to do a 3 some. Then they wore out their vibrators. Day 7 hits and they are back to normal.
They then had sympathy with me and other men, and they asked me if we were like that all the time, and I told them yes and when I was 16, it was horrible.
Like the Hollywood women are all angels crap, this "women like sex as much as men" is bullshit too. There are times in a woman's cycle like when she is ovulating, the sex drive can be pretty high but still not nearly as high as men's.
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Thing here that the men do not think about as much though is a woman fucking a lot of different men is going to have a lower social standing (it is the opposite for men) which is in conflict with the financial gain. I mistakenly thought prostitution being legal did not confer as much negative social status on a woman in Latin countries and maybe it is not as negative there but it is still pretty bad.
So that seems to be why a lot more women are willing to do the sugar baby thing versus the working girl thing.
But social status in Latin countries is different in Latin cultures than the USA in that social status has much more to do with family than friends, and I will tell you something Turgid the real test with a woman Latin maybe more than others is if they introduce you to their families. That is how you would know that it goes beyond a just sex for money exchange. Friends are a halfway point, but family is the real deal.
But it is not what you think. Let me break this down in another post.
EducationFund
03-02-21, 17:59
Jeans, T-shirts, polo shirts, maybe one nice button down shirt for dancing, comfortable walking shoes, a light rain jacket and that's about it. No jewelry. Leave your high dollar sunglasses at home.
Leave your wallet locked up. I carry cash, and an ATM card, if I'm going to an ATM, plus my ID. For ID I carry my US Passport Card. It's recommended you carry a photocopy of your passport, including the entry stamp. Some guys take a photo and keep it on their phone.
Carry your phone in a front pants pocket.This sounds like a dumb question, but what do you do with your room key when you go out?
Booked my flight. I arrive March 13th. I owe everyone on here a beer!
Elvis 2008
03-02-21, 18:16
The guy that did the research with wolves said it was false as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ti86veZBjUThe whole alpha concept was dreamed up by pick up artists to get the hottest women. Men would pretend to be betas in a pack and then defer to the alpha in front of a woman. The idea being that the hottest women, the alpha females, would go for the alpha male. That may work well in getting a woman to sleep with you but she would either be smart enough to figure out she was played and become pissed, or she was stupid which means she was not an alpha female to begin with.
Alphas are real things in the gorilla community and there is fish community where only the lead fish can mate, so it is a real thing. But the thing no one talks about is when you are the lead dog you are going to get attacked a lot more.
Here is a much more realistic depiction of alphas and betas in humans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdQpLDm6c0w&feature=youtu.be.
And the video says, very correctly, the cost of leadership or being an alpha is self-interest. So when you are an alpha, you are responsible for all the dumb shit things the betas do. It might not be true for other people but that is the price you pay to get the alpha females and to me it is not worth it.
I would rather pay my own way and deal with society frowning on me than deal with that bullshit. I have been an alpha hero before and pulled out miracles out of my ass only to watch the betas fuck up again and ask, "Hey Elvis, you got another miracle?" Fuck that shit.
The funny thing is the alpha females often do not like being put in the hero roles either. Your "job" is to fuck and crank out alpha babies. How great!
So yeah, the alpha male is a real thing. The pickup artist alpha schtick is just a scam but being a real alpha? No thank you. There are some people whose brain wiring requires them to be in charge. They can deal with that crap. Once in a while, I will step in but only if that leader is driving us off a cliff.
Elvis 2008
03-02-21, 18:58
With women if you really want to know if they like you for more than money, that is how. They introduce you to their parents or the family. In fact, with Latin cultures, that is probably even more important.
But it comes at a cost. It is like you are banging our daughter / sister and we want something in return. Sure some of the women working girl themselves out for fancy clothes and the latest Iphone but a lot, and really the truly better quality women, are doing it for their families.
Then there is the marriage pressure from mom, "So tell me when I am going to be a grandmother?
That is why when I see guys saying what studs they are being pretenders. If you think all that women care about is money, you will never even get to this point of meeting friends or family. And if you think you are getting the best sex when all a woman cares about is money, you are deluding yourself. The guys who have taken the SD angle know that is BS.
It is funny to read that guys here are like these "sugar babies" are all about money and are surely fucking other guys. I would first answer that by saying "So what?" I have had a number of American SBs with boyfriends and even had one who was married. I cared they looked good and fucked the shit out of me. Why would I care about what they did when I was not around?
If I did care about exclusivity, (and I do not, she is not mine, she is just my turn) and I was not around, then the family would be the best eyes and ears you could get. It is hard to imagine a woman more motivated than one who wants grandchildren.
With me, I am experimenting with trying to get the right percentage of the caring loving woman (not tonight honey, I have a headache) and the working girl who has to perform sexually. I have been doing trial and error but I am seemingly getting closer. From what I have seen, the caring loving woman route eventually leads to a shit sex life. The pure working girl route is like eating fast food, often tasty but nothing special.
Saying women are just interested in money bores me. And men are not interested in money? No, a better question is asking women what they need the money for. It is that question that leads to a whole new world of possibilities.
VsebudetNY
03-02-21, 19:20
Also consider a pacsafe travel safe. Mine just arrived, the 5 L version. I'm really pleased with it and it definitely would have come in handy on my last trip when I moved out of San P.Be careful with that: I was going to buy it before the last trip, but after reading the reviews didn't. People had to cut it to retrieve their own belongings after the lock failure.
MongerHunger
03-02-21, 21:18
Very very dangerous, can't believe nobody told him how dangerous that is, but I bet her boyfriend, gang member, taxi driver, or whoever she tells all about that money is also going to eat his "Dirty"ass also!I would have never taken a picture like that or exposed that money to anyone. What is he trying to do, make a rap video?
Guys,
A regular that I knew from last MDE trip, walked away with my iPad and laptop along with a pair of shoes and perfumes that I had given her.
She has responded back voa text saying she thought those were gifts as well.
Obviously she is avoiding me now for few days and bullshitting that her grandfather is sick etc.
And we had an argument and now she claims they were for her time..There are some things I don't understand. You met her last trip and she is a "regular"? How many times did you see her? How is it she left with your laptop and iPad? Did she leave when you were asleep? Did she leave when you are in the shower? Why did you have these things out where she could get at them?
Clearly, you can go to the police and file a complaint. Do you speak Spanish? How well? Please tell me you don't think you can "google translate" your way through that interview. I think if you explain that some hooker stole your iPad and laptop after / during a session they are going to laugh at you.
Personally, I would write it off as a learning experience. "Regulars" aren't trustworthy because you saw them twice before. Lock your stuff up before you have a girl come to your man cave. If this was a "FaceBook" girl, there is a group for noting "Rip-Offs and / or Thieves" you could post her FB page there. It won't do much good because she will change her name and open another page as soon as she sees your alert. Possibly the administrator here would allow you to post a picture if you have one and her name / ID information but you would have to ask and get their permission I think?
I'm sorry for your bad experience, maybe you can offer her a bribe to get them back.
Hello all,
I've been reading the forum for some time and after going through numerous pages trying to hunt for answers, I figure it'll be easier to try and find them all here in one post.
I am considering a trip to Medellin sometime as soon as May or June. This will be a solo trip as well as my first time to Colombia. Now to the questions.
1. I am considering staying all 10 nights in the Parque Lleras area. I will get an Airbnb in the area which I'll be sure to make sure is guest / girl friendly. Is this area suitable for a 10 night stay? Or should I break it up and stay half the time here, and half elsewhere. If so, what is another good relatively safe area to stay?
2. as far as money goes. Should I bring US dollars and exchange for COP somewhere out there? Or is it best to just withdraw money out there from a bank, ATM, etc.
3. I am having a bit trouble understanding the Colombian currency. I have a COP converter app on my phone. But for instance I see some guys on here mention both "k" and "mil" , and for example I see somebody mentioned they paid a girl "80 mil" , what does this equate to in US dollars? I can understand the K conversion. But I would assume somebody is not paying 80 million cop pesos, right? Also I'm assuming it's best to pay the girls in cop pesos out there, rather than in US dollars?
4. For websites such as mileroticos, I notice the girls charge x amount for service, but are requesting a substantial more for a taxi. What's the average / reasonable rate for a taxi?
Any additional input / advice would be great. Thanks.
ColombiaLover
03-03-21, 00:30
1. For 10 nights, I would not recommend changing places. With AirBNB, you'll have to be out by 11 or 12 and probably can't check in to the new place until 3. You basically end up wasting the whole day. If you want to change, you might think about Dann Carlton. I've done that for a few days at the end of my trip. Never had a problem checking in at noon and it's chica friendly.
2. I, like most guys, us the ATM with a debit card (like Schwab) that reimburses your fees. I NEVER bring cash to exchange.
3. K and mil are the same. It means "thousand. " So 20 mil is 20,000. Some guys and girls simply say 20. For miliones, just add three more zeros. And COP is "Colombian pesos. ".
4. Price of a taxi depends on where they are coming from. Apps like Did and Driver are cheaper and you know how much you are paying. Some example of taxis. Laureles to Lleras - 13,000. Bello to Lleras. Could be as much as 30 mil, depending on what part of Bello. Popular 1 to Lleras - 24 mil. Popular 1 to Laureles - 16 mil. To Lleras, your highest taxi fees will be from Bello. Sabaneta. Upper parts of Robledo. Take a look at a map of the barrios of Medellin to see where they live in comparison to Lleras.
Hello all,
1. I am considering staying all 10 nights in the Parque Lleras area. I will get an Airbnb in the area which I'll be sure to make sure is guest / girl friendly. Is this area suitable for a 10 night stay? Or should I break it up and stay half the time here, and half elsewhere. If so, what is another good relatively safe area to stay?
2. as far as money goes. Should I bring US dollars and exchange for COP somewhere out there? Or is it best to just withdraw money out there from a bank, ATM, etc.
3. I am having a bit trouble understanding the Colombian currency. I have a COP converter app on my phone. But for instance I see some guys on here mention both "k" and "mil" , and for example I see somebody mentioned they paid a girl "80 mil" , what does this equate to in US dollars? I can understand the K conversion. But I would assume somebody is not paying 80 million cop pesos, right? Also I'm assuming it's best to pay the girls in cop pesos out there, rather than in US dollars?
Any additional input / advice would be great. Thanks.
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