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Sangnyc21
07-17-21, 02:43
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MarquisdeSade1
07-17-21, 03:02
Well I was at the scene when this happened. And I guess I'm the fool you're talking about. Lmao.

What's hilarious is just how bitter you are at girls making money (perhaps because some make more than you) and also how generously others spend. This particular guy wasn't old mid 30's and not a repulsive looking guy.

The fact is she was offered 3 million and it wasn't what she charged.

These are absolute 10000% facts.

You come on this forum with all your BS and knowledge of pros and the game.

I'm quite sure you're just a bitter person. Who the fuck are you to determine how much an individual girl is allowed to charge or make for her body..I don't think so LOL.

But if its possible I guess its because fools like you are so desperate, I remember when I was in grammar school, another boy (an immigrant from another country) would steal lots of money from his fathers.

Business and bring it to school, after school we would see girls walking home, and I think he would pay them $10 to kiss their hand, $50 to kiss their cheek.

But he could never bribe them with enough to get to kiss their mouths LOL.

He would offer larger amounts $100-200, and even these budding putas would not want his mouth on theirs, did you go to school in Chicago in the 1970's by any chance?

Is it you bro? LMAO.

Nounce
07-17-21, 04:40
As I stated if true it's a great deal. I never stated you lied, just surprised you said it was high, when in fact it's half of the price of all of of the ones in the official list from the Embassy. I'm like I paid 180 k, you paid 90 and now an Ad that shows 80 and you claim it's High LOL. How? I want to go back to the hospital and fight for my money back now LOL.You have mistaken me for someone else. I thought you want information that is not misleading.

Lefeu
07-17-21, 06:13
IDIME labs, Torre Oviedo (opposite Sante Fe mall) only charge 50 k for the Antigen test. I got my results via email the following morning.

No appointment necessary.I was in Medellin last month and did my antigen test at this location. However, I had to call a number and make an appointment.

GeneHickman
07-17-21, 06:20
I was in Medellin last month and did my antigen test at this location. However, I had to call a number and make an appointment.Do you have that number handy or can you tell us how you got it. I can ask my hotel receptionist to schedule it for me. Thanks.

Lefeu
07-17-21, 06:28
Do you have that number handy or can you tell us how you got it. I can ask my hotel receptionist to schedule it for me. Thanks.I will look for it and if I find it, I will post it here. Another option is to walk to the location and get the number from them.

Onojdi
07-17-21, 06:58
I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

I read the forum and met a lot of advices about cheap girls in Centro and places like that. People were interested about cheap price rather then good quality. Well, I visited Centro but honestly it was very very low quality, the atmosphere in that kind of area is pretty awful and I'm thinking that you have to be really desperate to come to Centro for girls. Or a 50+ old gringo without a social media account.

Every girl that I met was from Tinder and Instagram, mostly from Insta. My Spanish is practically non existent and from the 7-8 girls that I met, non of them can speak English. But somehow that did not stop us of from having a really good time, mainly because of Google Translate, the positive chicks that I met and my Spanish vocabulary consisting 150 Spanish words.

Here you will read a lot of info about SWs, Centro girls, cheap options, etc. My report is for people who are looking for something else. I did not find a lot of info about that kind of travellers. I mean, people who are looking for a normal girls, working something in real life, going to university and so on. If you want a quality girl with tight pussy that did not fucked 100+ mens in the last 2 months, then go to Instagram. Send tons of messages, some of them will be answered and then it's easy. Colombian girls are super friendly, willing to meet gringos and to have some fun. Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you.

And because almost none of the reports here mention how much you give to the girls, I'll make an exception. I mean this info is pretty important and I don't'know why most of the brothers here are skipping that part. We do not care about reports "I fuck her all night, she finished 10+ times, I am the best lover in the world". So, some valuable info. I gave them from 0 to 300 pesos and some times I was so impressed that I gave them some tips (50-100 pesos) or I pay for the Uber.

I booked an Airbnb with a living room with a big nice sofa, kitchen with a bar area with 2 bar chairs. Separate bedroom. All the time I had in stock beer, wine, ice cream, chocolate and things like that. The effect is that the girl comes and then did not want to leave. Most of the times the girls stayed 4-5-6 hours. We fucked like crazy animals, drinking naked all the time, the girls are dancing, having fun hours after they planed to leave. And they know how to show their gratitude to you for the good time that they have.

So my honest advice is forget about cheap SWs, Centro girls, Parque Lleras, etc. And do not bargain for 50 pesos. Why, what's the point? We are tourist, come here to have fun, not to save money. Pay 100-200 pesos extra and enjoy life. After all let's not forgive that 100 pesos are $25. The girls came to your own place, you know pretty good what to expect after scanning the Insta profile and you got a normal girl, not а girl that is literally depreciated (both physical and mentally).

The summary was:

- 7 different girls. Almost all of them stayed 5+ hours. The "oldest" was 23 years old. Most of them 20-21.

- 3 asses fucked, one of them virgin. And she stayed from 6 pm to midnight. Yeah, it was really memorable night!

- one 18 years old lesbian, living with her girlfriend from more then a year. And yeah, you can see that from her Insta profile.

- Tons of photos, videos and good memories. With most of the girls we keep in touch even after I came back.

- I showed the photos and the videos to my friends and now everybody either hates me or wants to come to Colombia. Or both jajaja.

Yeah, I spend twice more than the SWs lovers. But I spent it on a nice airbnb; wines, beers and ice creams, and on a quality girls. And I'm a happy man. That's the most important thing.

Daga2222
07-17-21, 07:43
Just got back from my trip to Colombia. I spent about 4 days in Medellin and and a week in the Santa Marta area during more nature / touristy stuff (beaches, mountains, waterfalls, etc.) This was the first vacation I've had in a while so I didn't want to make it just about mongering. Now onto the time in Medellin, which was focused on mongering (outside of a day trip to Guatape):

I tried my best to sample all of the mongering options available (online, SWs, brothels, the mansion) and IMO the right way to do mongering in Medellin is to build a list of online contacts before you come and chill out in an Airbnb having the girls come to you. If you want to ease into things, start by staying a few nights at the mansion where girls will be handed to you on a silver platter and then the rest in an airbnb. Once in a while, splurge on the high end brothels like Loutron.

This advice is coming from the perspective of a younger guy. For me, the most important thing is getting to fuck solid 9's and 10's. A lot of people in this forum will talk about cento girls but the truth is the quality (at least from what I saw) is lower than what I can reasonably expect to get on my own in America, so why the fuck would I come to Colombia to fuck those chicks? I get some older members or maybe certain types of mongers get a kick out of being "centro rats", but if you're a younger dude, skip that shit.

For me, the main appeal of my time mongering in Colombia was being able to fuck a couple of 9's and 10's that normally I would have no chance with. I did try out the SW and lower cost options and it ended up just being a waste of time for me. The highlight for me was Loutron. It's a high end brothel (300 k+) where you go to a mansion over looking the city. You sit down and a bunch of girls come out one by one, unrobe, spin around, and leave for the next one to come. At the end, you choose the girl you like. I think that experience (the mansion, the lineup, etc.) is worth experiencing at least once, so I highly recommend it. At Loutron, I got to fuck a solid 10 for the first time ever. The way I define a solid 10 is a girl that turns heads everywhere she goes and could easily be a pornstar based on looks. You aren't going to find this in centro.

TLDR; if you're young and thinking about coming to Colombia, go for it. It's a hell of a time. BUT ignore the standard advice you see in this forum of picking up girls on Centro and shit. Chill out in a nice apartment and be prepared to spend some money on quality 9's and 10's (still only like $50-$100) That's really where the magic is.

RedWaters44
07-17-21, 11:54
I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

I read the forum and met a lot of advices about cheap girls in Centro and places like that. People were interested about cheap price rather then good quality. Well, I visited Centro but honestly it was very very low quality, the atmosphere in that kind of area is pretty awful and I'm thinking that you have to be really desperate to come to Centro for girls. Or a 50+ old gringo without a social media account.

Every girl that I met was from Tinder and Instagram, mostly from Insta. My Spanish is practically non existent and from the 7-8 girls that I met, non of them can speak English. But somehow that did not stop us of from having a really good time, mainly because of Google Translate, the positive chicks that I met and my Spanish vocabulary consisting 150 Spanish words.This is a really great report. I haven't been to Colombia yet, but another app I'd imagine could lead to a similar experience is Seeking Arrangements (may want to look into it for next time). You do have to pay for a membership unfortunately, but I think it could be worth it. I'm not too familiar with finding girls on Instagram, how did you go about doing that? Also was bringing girls up to the nice Airbnb ever an issue or did they just blend in that well?

Thanks for the great report. Glad you had an amazing trip!

Turgid
07-17-21, 14:55
I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

I read the forum and met a lot of advices about cheap girls in Centro and places like that. People were interested about cheap price rather then good quality. Well, I visited Centro but honestly it was very very low quality, the atmosphere in that kind of area is pretty awful and I'm thinking that you have to be really desperate to come to Centro for girls. Or a 50+ old gringo without a social media account.

Every girl that I met was from Tinder and Instagram, mostly from Insta. My Spanish is practically non existent and from the 7-8 girls that I met, non of them can speak English. But somehow that did not stop us of from having a really good time, mainly because of Google Translate, the positive chicks that I met and my Spanish vocabulary consisting 150 Spanish words.

Here you will read a lot of info about SWs, Centro girls, cheap options, etc. My report is for people who are looking for something else. I did not find a lot of info about that kind of travellers. I mean, people who are looking for a normal girls, working something in real life, going to university and so on. If you want a quality girl with tight pussy that did not fucked 100+ mens in the last 2 months, then go to Instagram. Send tons of messages, some of them will be answered and then it's easy. Colombian girls are super friendly, willing to meet gringos and to have some fun. Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you.

And because almost none of the reports here mention how much you give to the girls, I'll make an exception. I mean this info is pretty important and I don't'know why most of the brothers here are skipping that part. We do not care about reports "I fuck her all night, she finished 10+ times, I am the best lover in the world". So, some valuable info. I gave them from 0 to 300 pesos and some times I was so impressed that I gave them some tips (50-100 pesos) or I pay for the Uber.

I booked an Airbnb with a living room with a big nice sofa, kitchen with a bar area with 2 bar chairs. Separate bedroom. All the time I had in stock beer, wine, ice cream, chocolate and things like that. The effect is that the girl comes and then did not want to leave. Most of the times the girls stayed 4-5-6 hours. We fucked like crazy animals, drinking naked all the time, the girls are dancing, having fun hours after they planed to leave. And they know how to show their gratitude to you for the good time that they have.

So my honest advice is forget about cheap SWs, Centro girls, Parque Lleras, etc. And do not bargain for 50 pesos. Why, what's the point? We are tourist, come here to have fun, not to save money. Pay 100-200 pesos extra and enjoy life. After all let's not forgive that 100 pesos are $25. The girls came to your own place, you know pretty good what to expect after scanning the Insta profile and you got a normal girl, not а girl that is literally depreciated (both physical and mentally).

The summary was:

- 7 different girls. Almost all of them stayed 5+ hours. The "oldest" was 23 years old. Most of them 20-21.

- 3 asses fucked, one of them virgin. And she stayed from 6 pm to midnight. Yeah, it was really memorable night!

- one 18 years old lesbian, living with her girlfriend from more then a year. And yeah, you can see that from her Insta profile.

- Tons of photos, videos and good memories. With most of the girls we keep in touch even after I came back.

- I showed the photos and the videos to my friends and now everybody either hates me or wants to come to Colombia. Or both jajaja.

Yeah, I spend twice more than the SWs lovers. But I spent it on a nice airbnb; wines, beers and ice creams, and on a quality girls. And I'm a happy man. That's the most important thing.Hey, we all roll differently. Some are into fb, others Lleras, others Fas Dos, others Centro. Me, I'm a strictly casa man; apparently not many of us around now. However, you have piqued my interest in Instagram. You stated "Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you". My experience has been that those who want $ have been significantly hotter than those who want just me. Obviously, you younger and handsomer guys out there may fare differently.

JamesPearle
07-17-21, 15:52
I get it, but sounds a bit more boring than I imagined it would be. I guess the selling point is the convenience of access to girls without having to do the legwork on your own which can be expensive and time consuming. For those of you that have been to European brothels where all the women are completely nude, I imagined that the women would be nude or scantilly clad so you would see what you're getting as well as enticing you to purchase the merch.


There is no nudity at the pool. They get complaints from the neighbors as it is. At night in the bar there will be strip shows and some girls will sometimes get a little more wild, especially if guys are tipping them to do so.

MiamiSammy
07-17-21, 16:07
I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

I read the forum and met a lot of advices about cheap girls in Centro and places like that. People were interested about cheap price rather then good quality. Well, I visited Centro but honestly it was very very low quality, the atmosphere in that kind of area is pretty awful and I'm thinking that you have to be really desperate to come to Centro for girls. Or a 50+ old gringo without a social media account.

Every girl that I met was from Tinder and Instagram, mostly from Insta. My Spanish is practically non existent and from the 7-8 girls that I met, non of them can speak English. But somehow that did not stop us of from having a really good time, mainly because of Google Translate, the positive chicks that I met and my Spanish vocabulary consisting 150 Spanish words.

Here you will read a lot of info about SWs, Centro girls, cheap options, etc. My report is for people who are looking for something else. I did not find a lot of info about that kind of travellers. I mean, people who are looking for a normal girls, working something in real life, going to university and so on. If you want a quality girl with tight pussy that did not fucked 100+ mens in the last 2 months, then go to Instagram. Send tons of messages, some of them will be answered and then it's easy. Colombian girls are super friendly, willing to meet gringos and to have some fun. Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you.

And because almost none of the reports here mention how much you give to the girls, I'll make an exception. I mean this info is pretty important and I don't'know why most of the brothers here are skipping that part. We do not care about reports "I fuck her all night, she finished 10+ times, I am the best lover in the world". So, some valuable info. I gave them from 0 to 300 pesos and some times I was so impressed that I gave them some tips (50-100 pesos) or I pay for the Uber.

I booked an Airbnb with a living room with a big nice sofa, kitchen with a bar area with 2 bar chairs. Separate bedroom. All the time I had in stock beer, wine, ice cream, chocolate and things like that. The effect is that the girl comes and then did not want to leave. Most of the times the girls stayed 4-5-6 hours. We fucked like crazy animals, drinking naked all the time, the girls are dancing, having fun hours after they planed to leave. And they know how to show their gratitude to you for the good time that they have.

So my honest advice is forget about cheap SWs, Centro girls, Parque Lleras, etc. And do not bargain for 50 pesos. Why, what's the point? We are tourist, come here to have fun, not to save money. Pay 100-200 pesos extra and enjoy life. After all let's not forgive that 100 pesos are $25. The girls came to your own place, you know pretty good what to expect after scanning the Insta profile and you got a normal girl, not а girl that is literally depreciated (both physical and mentally).

The summary was:

- 7 different girls. Almost all of them stayed 5+ hours. The "oldest" was 23 years old. Most of them 20-21.

- 3 asses fucked, one of them virgin. And she stayed from 6 pm to midnight. Yeah, it was really memorable night!

- one 18 years old lesbian, living with her girlfriend from more then a year. And yeah, you can see that from her Insta profile.

- Tons of photos, videos and good memories. With most of the girls we keep in touch even after I came back.

- I showed the photos and the videos to my friends and now everybody either hates me or wants to come to Colombia. Or both jajaja.

Yeah, I spend twice more than the SWs lovers. But I spent it on a nice airbnb; wines, beers and ice creams, and on a quality girls. And I'm a happy man. That's the most important thing.Excellent report! I'll be back in Colombia next month and hope to provide some information about El Eje Cafetero. Any chance you could share or PM the search keywords you used on Instagram? Thanks again for the report!

Chadthundrcock
07-17-21, 16:08
Hey, we all roll differently. Some are into fb, others Lleras, others Fas Dos, others Centro. Me, I'm a strictly casa man; apparently not many of us around now. However, you have piqued my interest in Instagram. You stated "Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you". My experience has been that those who want $ have been significantly hotter than those who want just me. Obviously, you younger and handsomer guys out there may fare differently.Is there a certain area where there is a cluster of casas within walking distance of each other or are they scattered all over the place? If you don't mind me asking, where you stay and what are your favorite casas? I have found lists of them but have no experience in Colombia and don't know where to start.

BeachBumCeo
07-17-21, 16:48
Hey, we all roll differently. Some are into fb, others Lleras, others Fas Dos, others Centro. Me, I'm a strictly casa man; apparently not many of us around now. However, you have piqued my interest in Instagram. You stated "Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you". My experience has been that those who want $ have been significantly hotter than those who want just me. Obviously, you younger and handsomer guys out there may fare differently.I'm in Medellin now for the next 30 days. I used the info I learned here and the map (also from here). And I have been to the casas three days in a row! I love the simplicity and cheapness of them.

Florida07
07-17-21, 17:00
First time in Medellin. Here is my report to help those that want to visit. First of all I am not a guy that likes to pick up girls on the street and go to a short term hotel although I have done it a few times before. I like quality and am prepared to pay for it at Colombian prices. Arrived on Tuesday afternoon and arranged to meet a girl from SA that lives in Bogota but was here for a week. She was beautiful, classy and spoke perfect English. But cost more than the usual. She arrived Tuesday evening and I checked her in at the hotel I was staying for 2 night. The hotel is in the middle of Parque Lleras and was called the Charlee. Very unique and classy hotel but wouldn't stay there again. Had a great meal at Carmen and then we spent the night and following day together. Wasn't exciting enough for me so I had her leave the following evening.

Wednesday night went to apparently the best strip club here called La Isla. It is in a building that is like a big warehouse but inside is nice and comfortable. A lot of stunning women in here and it was hard to make a choice. Had some drinks with a couple of different ones. Not cheap think they were 33,000 pesos each so around $9. My hotel wouldn't let me check another one in so decided to have fun on premises. Hotel attached to club and rooms were clean. Total cost 320,000 pesos (around $90) for an amazing 45 minutes. If you pay in dollars they only give you an exchange rate of 3,200 so $100 in US money. Yes I know it is expensive compared to one off the street but the quality was different class. The one I had showed me photos where she won a big beauty pageant in Colombia. She was that good.

Left the club and decided to walk around the park around my hotel. Full of bars, clubs and girls on the street. Mostly from Venezuela is seemed. Got hit on of course many times. I wasn't interested but pretended I was. They start at 300,000 and come down quickly when you say no. I am guessing 150,000 would do it at peak times and then the cost of a short term hotel. As the night goes on I am guessing 100,000 would be readily available.

Following day moved to a 5 star hotel away from the park booked on Hotwire. NH Collection Medellin Royal. $34 per night including breakfast. Crazy cheap.

Went for dinner around the park and then visited a club called Gusto. Quite a few girls in there but not the same quality as La Isla so headed there again. Found another beauty and same thing as the night before 320,000 pesos. I didn't want to bring her to my hotel as would have cost a fortune and quite honestly I wanted to wake up early by myself as I had an early business meeting.

Last day was the highlight of my trip. Visited the massage place Loutron which used to be owned by Pablo Escobar. Only 10 minutes away it is hidden away in the mountains and is a spectacular house. You sit down in a beautiful room and there is a notebook and pen for you. The girls come in one by one and you decide which one you want. They introduce themselves in their white coats and undress to show you front and back. Out of the 10 I saw there were 2 stunners but the other 8 were all more than acceptable. Went to an amazing room and spent an hour in heaven, massage, blow job and sex. Total cost 330,000 pesos. An amazing experience and one you must take advantage of while in Medellin if you can afford it. Only thing it took forever to get an Uber back from there. Heading back now and would say it was an OK trip. But Loutron made it extra special. I still like Brazil better but this is much closer for me of course living in Florida. And cheaper. Fro those that don't want to pay this kind of money and don't want to pick off the street I would say go to either Gusto or Parque Lleras bar for a drink and you will find nothing but working girls in there and will cost you less than La Isla or Loutron. But those are 5 star visits!

Edifice2020
07-17-21, 17:20
Hi fellow mongers,

I will be visiting next weekend to Medellin. If anyone can suggest a good hotel and no Chica fee and places to go to get some good chicas. My Spanish is limited. Not looking for cheap girls'. Quality over Quantity. And willing to pay more (But how much? 7-10 range Chicas).

Also any website (Escort, dating, Agency etc) would be very helpful.

TIA.

Mtndew704
07-17-21, 17:29
Just got back from my trip to Colombia. I spent about 4 days in Medellin and and a week in the Santa Marta area during more nature / touristy stuff (beaches, mountains, waterfalls, etc.) This was the first vacation I've had in a while so I didn't want to make it just about mongering. Now onto the time in Medellin, which was focused on mongering (outside of a day trip to Guatape):

I tried my best to sample all of the mongering options available (online, SWs, brothels, the mansion) and IMO the right way to do mongering in Medellin is to build a list of online contacts before you come and chill out in an Airbnb having the girls come to you. If you want to ease into things, start by staying a few nights at the mansion where girls will be handed to you on a silver platter and then the rest in an airbnb. Once in a while, splurge on the high end brothels like Loutron.

This advice is coming from the perspective of a younger guy. For me, the most important thing is getting to fuck solid 9's and 10's. A lot of people in this forum will talk about cento girls but the truth is the quality (at least from what I saw) is lower than what I can reasonably expect to get on my own in America, so why the fuck would I come to Colombia to fuck those chicks? I get some older members or maybe certain types of mongers get a kick out of being "centro rats", but if you're a younger dude, skip that shit.Can you post some examples of these 9's and 10's you are getting for $50-100?

JohnnyWalker55
07-17-21, 18:03
Just got back from my trip to Colombia. I spent about 4 days in Medellin and and a week in the Santa Marta area during more nature / touristy stuff (beaches, mountains, waterfalls, etc.) This was the first vacation I've had in a while so I didn't want to make it just about mongering. Now onto the time in Medellin, which was focused on mongering (outside of a day trip to Guatape):

I tried my best to sample all of the mongering options available (online, SWs, brothels, the mansion) and IMO the right way to do mongering in Medellin is to build a list of online contacts before you come and chill out in an Airbnb having the girls come to you. If you want to ease into things, start by staying a few nights at the mansion where girls will be handed to you on a silver platter and then the rest in an airbnb. Once in a while, splurge on the high end brothels like Loutron.

This advice is coming from the perspective of a younger guy. For me, the most important thing is getting to fuck solid 9's and 10's. A lot of people in this forum will talk about cento girls but the truth is the quality (at least from what I saw) is lower than what I can reasonably expect to get on my own in America, so why the fuck would I come to Colombia to fuck those chicks? I get some older members or maybe certain types of mongers get a kick out of being "centro rats", but if you're a younger dude, skip that shit.

For me, the main appeal of my time mongering in Colombia was being able to fuck a couple of 9's and 10's that normally I would have no chance with. I did try out the SW and lower cost options and it ended up just being a waste of time for me. The highlight for me was Loutron. It's a high end brothel (300 k+) where you go to a mansion over looking the city. You sit down and a bunch of girls come out one by one, unrobe, spin around, and leave for the next one to come. At the end, you choose the girl you like. I think that experience (the mansion, the lineup, etc.) is worth experiencing at least once, so I highly recommend it. At Loutron, I got to fuck a solid 10 for the first time ever. The way I define a solid 10 is a girl that turns heads everywhere she goes and could easily be a pornstar based on looks. You aren't going to find this in centro.

TLDR; if you're young and thinking about coming to Colombia, go for it. It's a hell of a time. BUT ignore the standard advice you see in this forum of picking up girls on Centro and shit. Chill out in a nice apartment and be prepared to spend some money on quality 9's and 10's (still only like $50-$100) That's really where the magic is.This is a report catered to weekend warriors who come for the first time and don't speak a lick of spanish. If you want girls handed to you on a silver plattter then by all means go to loutron fase dos. To say it's the be-all end all is laughable. The girls that work the high end clubs and the ones in centro are from the same barrios more or less. The difference is they get all dolled up, get surgically enhanced, and presented through a facade to the gringos eyes. I have been fucking 3-4 girls a day between sw, centro club, and casas, the past few months here, and there are always lots of 8's everyday. What makes them a 9 and a 10 is an illusion.

And if you're a younger dude, why tf would you skip centro to go to loutron and not vice versa? You have youth on your side on the streets, it's common sense really.

Funnily enough, I can't bust a nut with a solid 9 at conejitas, but I can blow a load with a 30 k chubby brunette with green eyes behind the church because her pussy is so much better.

Yes, the classic centro vs high end debate that goes on every weeek seemingly here. Its not a money thing, I could go to lleras every night if I wanted to. The girls are just a lot more fake, and literal seasoned pros who deal with gringos who use a translator every night and get fleeced, often tipping 50-100 k + like Onojdi. Centro girls are the girl next door types, the ones you see on the metro or working a coffee stand.

IMO talent is more or less the same, , but in the more expensive places theyre selling you the dream, like you're hugh hefner, where as in centro you have to do the work and make her like you. she can be a total ***** or just whatever towards you, where in the clubs their job depends on your experience/

In fact yesterday I fucked a solid 9 in raudal that was standing, in the doorway, estefania. 22 yo vennie blue eyes spinner 5 ft 3 face like selena gomez. Go see for yourselves she's probably there rn.

Anyways, why tf would I want a girl in my airbnb? . I don't want a stranger around my belongings. IMO a very presumptuous report that makes a lot of generalisations based on a 4 day trip with no spanish. Sorry if harsh.

JustTK
07-17-21, 18:10
I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia.

And because almost none of the reports here mention how much you give to the girls, I'll make an exception. I mean this info is pretty important and I don't'know why most of the brothers here are skipping that part. We do not care about reports "I fuck her all night, she finished 10+ times, I am the best lover in the world". So, some valuable info. I gave them from 0 to 300 pesos and some times I was so impressed that I gave them some tips (50-100 pesos) or I pay for the Uber.

So my honest advice is forget about cheap SWs, Centro girls, Parque Lleras, etc. And do not bargain for 50 pesos. Why, what's the point? We are tourist, come here to have fun, not to save money. Pay 100-200 pesos extra and enjoy life. After all let's not forgive that 100 pesos are $25. The girls came to your own place, you know pretty good what to expect after scanning the Insta profile and you got a normal girl, not а girl that is literally depreciated (both physical and mentally).

Yeah, I spend twice more than the SWs lovers. But I spent it on a nice airbnb; wines, beers and ice creams, and on a quality girls. And I'm a happy man. That's the most important thing.Super. Glad to hear you had a great time. You spent what you wanted and found a way to suit you. Others, myself included, prefer other options. I quite like Club Colombia Roja. I can buy it from the street corner for 3. 000 pesos. I-ll be damned if I am going to go to a place where I have to pay 10.000 for the same goddamn beer. That's how I see the cost of things. It doesn't taste any better simply bcos I paid more for it. I have been in both corners and am happier where I am now. .

JustTK
07-17-21, 18:16
This is a report catered to weekend warriors who come for the first time and don't speak a lick of spanish. If you want girls handed to you on a silver plattter then by all means go to loutron fase dos. To say it's the be-all end all is laughable. The girls that work the high end clubs and the ones in centro are from the same barrios more or less. The difference is they get all dolled up, get surgically enhanced, and presented through a facade to the gringos eyes. I have been fucking 3-4 girls a day between sw, centro club, and casas, the past few months here, and there are always lots of 8's everyday. What makes them a 9 and a 10 is an illusion.

Anyways, why tf would I want a girl in my airbnb? . I don't want a stranger around my belongings. IMO a very presumptuous report that makes a lot of generalisations based on a 4 day trip with no spanish. Sorry if harsh.Haha, got to say this aligns with my view too. I also prefer the general personality of the grils in Centro. Lot my humble and real. Less BS and pretensions. I have enough of that BS when I am at home.

MarquisdeSade1
07-17-21, 18:25
This is a report catered to weekend warriors who come for the first time and don't speak a lick of spanish. If you want girls handed to you on a silver plattter then by all means go to loutron fase dos. To say it's the be-all end all is laughable. The girls that work the high end clubs and the ones in centro are from the same barrios more or less. The difference is they get all dolled up, get surgically enhanced, and presented through a facade to the gringos eyes. I have been fucking 3-4 girls a day between sw, centro club, and casas, the past few months here, and there are always lots of 8's everyday. What makes them a 9 and a 10 is an illusion.

And if you're a younger dude, why tf would you skip centro to go to loutron and not vice versa? You have youth on your side on the streets, it's common sense really.

Funnily enough, I can't bust a nut with a solid 9 at conejitas, but I can blow a load with a 30 k chubby brunette with green eyes behind the church because her pussy is so much better.

Yes, the classic centro vs high end debate that goes on every weeek seemingly here. Its not a money thing, I could go to lleras every night if I wanted to. The girls are just a lot more fake, and literal seasoned pros who deal with gringos who use a translator every night and get fleeced, often tipping 50-100 k + like Onojdi. Centro girls are the girl next door types, the ones you see on the metro or working a coffee stand.I wish when someone posted a post like they did, they would share some demo information on themselves to add some context to what they write here!

I will show what I mean.

I am a German white guy blonde hair blue eyes 6'3 180 lbs, 54 yo from Chicago, next.

Daga2222
07-17-21, 18:46
Can you post some examples of these 9's and 10's you are getting for $50-100?I didn't take any pics but $50-$100 is a lot of money in Colombia. $100 is 350 k pesos which is about as much as you could expect to shell out for a girl (at the highest end strip club or brothel). Now that's not to say spending more guarantees you a 9 or 10, but you literally can't reasonably spend more than $100 for an encounter tbh. Otherwise you're getting hosed or doing some overnight thing (which is fine).

Daga2222
07-17-21, 18:57
This is a report catered to weekend warriors who come for the first time and don't speak a lick of spanish. If you want girls handed to you on a silver plattter then by all means go to loutron fase dos. To say it's the be-all end all is laughable. The girls that work the high end clubs and the ones in centro are from the same barrios more or less. The difference is they get all dolled up, get surgically enhanced, and presented through a facade to the gringos eyes. I have been fucking 3-4 girls a day between sw, centro club, and casas, the past few months here, and there are always lots of 8's everyday. What makes them a 9 and a 10 is an illusion.

And if you're a younger dude, why tf would you skip centro to go to loutron and not vice versa? You have youth on your side on the streets, it's common sense really.

Funnily enough, I can't bust a nut with a solid 9 at conejitas, but I can blow a load with a 30 k chubby brunette with green eyes behind the church because her pussy is so much better.

Yes, the classic centro vs high end debate that goes on every weeek seemingly here. Its not a money thing, I could go to lleras every night if I wanted to. The girls are just a lot more fake, and literal seasoned pros who deal with gringos who use a translator every night and get fleeced, often tipping 50-100 k + like Onojdi. Centro girls are the girl next door types, the ones you see on the metro or working a coffee stand.I knew my report would piss off some of the long time regulars which is why I prefaced it by saying I'm a younger guy that clearly has different preferences from you guys. Different strokes for different folks. My advice is meant for younger guys like me (20's to 30's) that want to experience and be sold the "dream" as you describe it. We're a completely different demographic with completely different wants and it looks like I'm not alone. Just recently one guy posted about how he shacked up in an Airbnb and invited girls over using Tinder and Insta and much preferred it to the scene at centro. You are the presumptuous one if you think that isn't a viable strategy. Another guy posted about how the highlight of his trip was Loutron. The same high end place that "sells you the dream" which you don't like. Everyone has different preferences. If you enjoy picking up chicks in Centro, great. I just don't think younger guys coming to Colombia would like doing the same thing because we can get the same thing back home. There's probably a special type of appeal picking up chicks for cheap in centro has for you guys. But for dudes that want to come here and fuck pornstar types and live it up, Centro ain't it.

JJ1265
07-17-21, 19:02
Hello,

I am new here but not new to the mongering thing but have never been to Colombia. I had some Credit with Jetblue so I decided to book a ticket to Bogota next month. It seems like everyone universally prefers Medellin and Cartagena for the women is there a particular reason that I am missing? I wanted to stay in Bogota because I like the cooler climate but Have now decided to spend only a day or 2 there and then go to Medellin for a week due to all the positive reviews.

Nounce
07-17-21, 19:04
Is there a certain area where there is a cluster of casas
...
I have found lists of them but have no experience in Colombia and don't know where to start. You can start with New Life on this list.


Guys.

I checked all the places I could find and added dates to them.

So, Come on guys give us the latest's information on each Place.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1UxdkQ9-vm36hqZmjE87YQcheNFdWBiKd&ll=6.224431961843611%2C-75.55156482421874&z=13

Nounce
07-17-21, 19:29
In fact yesterday I fucked a solid 9 in raudalAren't you too young to be in El Centro?

Mtndew704
07-17-21, 19:33
I didn't take any pics but $50-$100 is a lot of money in Colombia. $100 is 350 k pesos which is about as much as you could expect to shell out for a girl (at the highest end strip club or brothel). Now that's not to say spending more guarantees you a 9 or 10, but you literally can't reasonably spend more than $100 for an encounter tbh. Otherwise you're getting hosed or doing some overnight thing (which is fine).I should of mentioned I have been to Medellin several times so I'm aware that $100 goes a long ways. $50 is pushing it but $100 plus a possible tip / cab fare / food drinks etc is too much especially with the current exchange rate and the state of Colombia as a whole. I'm far from a seasoned vet but thankfully through some quick trial and error, this board, and some friends I have made in the states who are from Medellin. I have realized the $100+ airbnb, high end strip clubs, instagram girls etc is completely unnecessary. To each their own though, I'm a simple man and the girls in centro do me just fine, I'm also only 28 so a lot of times it ends up being free too.

MarquisdeSade1
07-17-21, 20:46
I didn't take any pics but $50-$100 is a lot of money in Colombia. $100 is 350 k pesos which is about as much as you could expect to shell out for a girl (at the highest end strip club or brothel). Now that's not to say spending more guarantees you a 9 or 10, but you literally can't reasonably spend more than $100 for an encounter tbh. Otherwise you're getting hosed or doing some overnight thing (which is fine).No shit!

That's exactly why you shouldn't be paying that much for a pop.

In a 3rd world country, 100 usd is a couple weeks salary.

Surf what is the price in centro? 30 mil? That's about one days pay for a Colombian, do you think that's underpaying them?

Cmon bro.

MiamiBoy1
07-17-21, 21:56
This is a report catered to weekend warriors who come for the first time and don't speak a lick of spanish. If you want girls handed to you on a silver plattter then by all means go to loutron fase dos. To say it's the be-all end all is laughable. The girls that work the high end clubs and the ones in centro are from the same barrios more or less. The difference is they get all dolled up, get surgically enhanced, and presented through a facade to the gringos eyes. I have been fucking 3-4 girls a day between sw, centro club, and casas, the past few months here, and there are always lots of 8's everyday. What makes them a 9 and a 10 is an illusion.

And if you're a younger dude, why tf would you skip centro to go to loutron and not vice versa? You have youth on your side on the streets, it's common sense really.

Funnily enough, I can't bust a nut with a solid 9 at conejitas, but I can blow a load with a 30 k chubby brunette with green eyes behind the church because her pussy is so much better.

Yes, the classic centro vs high end debate that goes on every weeek seemingly here. Its not a money thing, I could go to lleras every night if I wanted to. The girls are just a lot more fake, and literal seasoned pros who deal with gringos who use a translator every night and get fleeced, often tipping 50-100 k + like Onojdi. Centro girls are the girl next door types, the ones you see on the metro or working a coffee stand.

IMO talent is more or less the same, , but in the more expensive places theyre selling you the dream, like you're hugh hefner, where as in centro you have to do the work and make her like you. she can be a total ***** or just whatever towards you, where in the clubs their job depends on your experience/

In fact yesterday I fucked a solid 9 in raudal that was standing, in the doorway, estefania. 22 yo vennie blue eyes spinner 5 ft 3 face like selena gomez. Go see for yourselves she's probably there rn.

Anyways, why tf would I want a girl in my airbnb? . I don't want a stranger around my belongings. IMO a very presumptuous report that makes a lot of generalisations based on a 4 day trip with no spanish. Sorry if harsh.I highly doubt you fucked a solid 9. I haven't seen any 9's in El Centro, even 8's are very hard to find. What makes them a 9 is not only the fact that they get dolled up, but also a healthy lifestyle. Healthy food, gym, good sleep, no stress, no bad habits (smoking, etc), low mileage. All of the above take a lot of effort, time and money. Yeah, eating clean is pricey. Do you know why most of them are fat? Because they eat cheap unhealthy food and they don't exercise. They are just too broke to eat clean. A true 9 will never work El Centro, because she will be in high demand and since the supply of 9's is low, her rate will go up. Guys will always pay premium for high quality, anywhere on the planet. When someone says "I fucked a solid 9 in El Centro" (and for how much? 50-70 mil cop?) I get skeptical.

Wolf662
07-17-21, 22:02
. And do not bargain for 50 pesos. Why, what's the point? We are tourist, come here to have fun, not to save money. Pay 100-200 pesos extra and enjoy life. After all let's not forgive that 100 pesos are $25.You might have forgot some zeros.

100 Colombian pesos is $.02 cents US.

MiamiBoy1
07-17-21, 22:07
Haha, got to say this aligns with my view too. I also prefer the general personality of the grils in Centro. Lot my humble and real. Less BS and pretensions. I have enough of that BS when I am at home.How do you get to know her personality within a 15-20 mins timeframe in a tiny motel room? They are sex machines, serving multiple dicks a day. What personality are you talking about? You go in, fuck, get out. Sometimes without asking her name.

Just Incognito
07-17-21, 22:16
I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

The summary was:

- 7 different girls. Almost all of them stayed 5+ hours. The "oldest" was 23 years old. Most of them 20-21.

- 3 asses fucked, one of them virgin. And she stayed from 6 pm to midnight. Yeah, it was really memorable night!

- one 18 years old lesbian, living with her girlfriend from more then a year. And yeah, you can see that from her Insta profile.

- Tons of photos, videos and good memories. With most of the girls we keep in touch even after I came back.

- I showed the photos and the videos to my friends and now everybody either hates me or wants to come to Colombia. Or both jajaja.

Yeah, I spend twice more than the SWs lovers. But I spent it on a nice airbnb; wines, beers and ice creams, and on a quality girls. And I'm a happy man. That's the most important thing.I guess this begs the question of what strategy you used to find these Instagram sex kittens?

Were there keywords you searched with bedises 'Medellin'?

HotelAl
07-17-21, 22:48
Hi fellow mongers,

I will be visiting next weekend to Medellin. If anyone can suggest a good hotel and no Chica fee and places to go to get some good chicas. My Spanish is limited. Not looking for cheap girls'. Quality over Quantity. And willing to pay more (But how much? 7-10 range Chicas).

Also any website (Escort, dating, Agency etc) would be very helpful.

TIA.Ill be there next wee if you want to meet up, I'm fluent en espanol.

Just Incognito
07-17-21, 22:51
And the plan is for us to get STD tested before we meet up so we don't have to use condoms. (Assuming we both test clean--I know I will LOL).

Any suggestions for getting STD tested? Anyone know the costs are how long it takes to get results? Anyone know what kind of proof they offer so If my girls get tested without me, I can see proof they really were tested and a re negative? I'd like some bareback action with a couple of them--but I don't want to be stupid about it.

Daga2222
07-17-21, 23:09
No shit!

That's exactly why you shouldn't be paying that much for a pop.

In a 3rd world country, 100 usd is a couple weeks salary.

Surf what is the price in centro? 30 mil? That's about one days pay for a Colombian, do you think that's underpaying them?

Cmon bro.You don't get it. I'm not paying $100 for the pussy. I'm paying $100 for the convenience of not having to go hunting in centro for the rare decent looking chick. I'm paying $100 to be able to relax at my own place in my nice bed and have a chick come over rather than be in some dingy short time hotel in Centro. Or $100 to go to a mansion in the hills and be shown a line up where there's at least a couple of guaranteed 9's. We're so diametrically opposed to how we monger that it would be difficult for you to understand. If you like the deals you get in Centro and are willing to put in the work, more power to you. I want something else entirely.

Paulie97
07-17-21, 23:14
I highly doubt you fucked a solid 9. I haven't seen any 9's in El Centro, even 8's are very hard to find. What makes them a 9 is not only the fact that they get dolled up, but also a healthy lifestyle. Healthy food, gym, good sleep, no stress, no bad habits (smoking, etc), low mileage. All of the above take a lot of effort, time and money. Yeah, eating clean is pricey. Do you know why most of them are fat? Because they eat cheap unhealthy food and they don't exercise. They are just too broke to eat clean. A true 9 will never work El Centro, because she will be in high demand and since the supply of 9's is low, her rate will go up. Guys will always pay premium for high quality, anywhere on the planet. When someone says "I fucked a solid 9 in El Centro" (and for how much? 50-70 mil cop?) I get skeptical.What the hell is "eating clean?" lololol Most Colombians aren't health food fanatics.

Again and again guys have been told here that your typical hookers, whether in Centro or working in or near El Pablado are strata one or two, "barrio girls. " You can believe it or not believe it, but it's the truth. "No stress" What world did you parachute in from? Lololol I personally doubt that you've spent much if any time in Centro, as the vast majority in the casas and strip clubs are not fat. The less expensive food choices are often rather healthy, soups, eggs, beans, and fruit, and are far from "pricey. " What world did you parachute in from? Colombia doesn't have near the problem with obesity as countries like Mexico, Costa Rica, or of course the USA. As to habits, most will drink some and smoke some weed. Some are into harder stuff. It's not like the USA where most hookers are hardcore addicts supporting a habit.

And yea, the difference between an 8 and 9, or some guys' 10 typically comes down to surgery, clothes, and make up. That's just how it is. There's plenty of very attractive girls in the Centro casas and strip clubs. But be "skeptical" all you like. That just leaves the more girls for those who know what's up.

JohnnyWalker55
07-17-21, 23:31
I highly doubt you fucked a solid 9. I haven't seen any 9's in El Centro, even 8's are very hard to find. What makes them a 9 is not only the fact that they get dolled up, but also a healthy lifestyle. Healthy food, gym, good sleep, no stress, no bad habits (smoking, etc), low mileage. All of the above take a lot of effort, time and money. Yeah, eating clean is pricey. Do you know why most of them are fat? Because they eat cheap unhealthy food and they don't exercise. They are just too broke to eat clean. A true 9 will never work El Centro, because she will be in high demand and since the supply of 9's is low, her rate will go up. Guys will always pay premium for high quality, anywhere on the planet. When someone says "I fucked a solid 9 in El Centro" (and for how much? 50-70 mil cop?) I get skeptical.1) You clearly haven't spent a lot of time in centro, if any, IE pollonegro style, 6 hours a day, everyday, weeks on end. Guys don't pay a premium becuase theyre locals, they pay local prices, not gringo prices like in lleras. I paid 40 k + 16 room for my 9 estefania, you can go see her rn if you're otg, which you're probably not so IDK why you're arguing on this forum. lol.

2) These girls are not "sex machines". I forget the number of times a girl was so grateful because I was her first or second client of the day and she can go home finally because it was late.

I forget that a lot of guys monger out of necessity, not choice hahaha.

You get to know them by getting a coffee, a beer, chitchatting before, you know, people skills. I've been picking up SW since I was 16 in NYC, it's called building rapport. Then you can get DFK BBBJ DATY like I do with many regulars at no upcharge because theyre into you. My hipster girl marley that stands at the far end behind the museum treats me like her fiance on a honeymoon everytime for 40k. and shes a solid 8. go check her out if you want

This morning I was with a MILF from periera, 30 yo in a tight blue dress standing at the start of the walkway by mor dis cos. She came when she was riding cowgirl. She told me she masturbates in the morning to keep her work strictly professional but she was ovulating so she was into me. Ill be seeing her again.

You should put in more work before making such grandiose statements and accusations miamikid.

Mojo Bandit
07-17-21, 23:54
You don't get it. I'm not paying $100 for the pussy. I'm paying $100 for the convenience of not having to go hunting in centro for the rare decent looking chick. I'm paying $100 to be able to relax at my own place in my nice bed and have a chick come over rather than be in some dingy short time hotel in Centro. Or $100 to go to a mansion in the hills and be shown a line up where there's at least a couple of guaranteed 9's. We're so diametrically opposed to how we monger that it would be difficult for you to understand. If you like the deals you get in Centro and are willing to put in the work, more power to you. I want something else entirely.I do not get it. $100 in Medellin is over the top. There are fine ass 9's on FB that will come to my apartment and stay two hours and the whole experience without ever leaving my apartment costs me about $50. While that seems outrageous to some Centro dwellers, it is a lot less than $100. $100 dollars if she is staying all night maybe but she better be gorgeous.

Firestix
07-18-21, 00:06
I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

I read the forum and met a lot of advices about cheap girls in Centro and places like that. People were interested about cheap price rather then good quality. Well, I visited Centro but honestly it was very very low quality, the atmosphere in that kind of area is pretty awful and I'm thinking that you have to be really desperate to come to Centro for girls. Or a 50+ old gringo without a social media account.

Every girl that I met was from Tinder and Instagram, mostly from Insta. My Spanish is practically non existent and from the 7-8 girls that I met, non of them can speak English. But somehow that did not stop us of from having a really good time, mainly because of Google Translate, the positive chicks that I met and my Spanish vocabulary consisting 150 Spanish words.

Here you will read a lot of info about SWs, Centro girls, cheap options, etc. My report is for people who are looking for something else. I did not find a lot of info about that kind of travellers. I mean, people who are looking for a normal girls, working something in real life, going to university and so on. If you want a quality girl with tight pussy that did not fucked 100+ mens in the last 2 months, then go to Instagram. Send tons of messages, some of them will be answered and then it's easy. Colombian girls are super friendly, willing to meet gringos and to have some fun. Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you.

And because almost none of the reports here mention how much you give to the girls, I'll make an exception. I mean this info is pretty important and I don't'know why most of the brothers here are skipping that part. We do not care about reports "I fuck her all night, she finished 10+ times, I am the best lover in the world". So, some valuable info. I gave them from 0 to 300 pesos and some times I was so impressed that I gave them some tips (50-100 pesos) or I pay for the Uber..Excellent report! I'll in Colombia Aug 10th for 10 days. Any chance you could share or PM the search keywords you used on Instagram? Thanks again for the report!

Daga2222
07-18-21, 00:08
I do not get it. $100 in Medellin is over the top. There are fine ass 9's on FB that will come to my apartment and stay two hours and the whole experience without ever leaving my apartment costs me about $50. While that seems outrageous to some Centro dwellers, it is a lot less than $100. $100 dollars if she is staying all night maybe but she better be gorgeous.Yes, I would usually spend closer to $50, which is why I gave the range of $50-$100 in my earlier post. It's just that people chose to focus on the $100 number. The $100 is figurative here, not literal.

Belisaj
07-18-21, 00:08
I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

So my honest advice is forget about cheap SWs, Centro girls, Parque Lleras, etc. And do not bargain for 50 pesos. Why, what's the point? We are tourist, come here to have fun, not to save money. Pay 100-200 pesos extra and enjoy life. After all let's not forgive that 100 pesos are $25. The girls came to your own place, you know pretty good what to expect after scanning the Insta profile and you got a normal girl, not а girl that is literally depreciated (both physical and mentally)..What's your demographics? I'm a 5'6 Asian guy in his mid-30's so I'm wondering if your successes have to do with you being a blonde hair, blue-eyed 6'3 German guy in his mid-20's. Nothing against that if that's what you are but it helps to put things in perspective.

But great review nonetheless. Thanks for taking the time to write that. I'll be in Medellin in about a month for a week with the same mentality. Don't have the time to crawl through El Centro and the casas looking for cheap SW that are at most a 6 on a good day. I get paid well in the US and I want 9-10's coming to my room every day I'm there and / or being handed to me on a silver platter at places like Loutron.

To second what another guy asked, any IG girls you recommend? Can you DM me some links? Trying to build up my roster before I get there as well.

JustTK
07-18-21, 00:25
How do you get to know her personality within a 15-20 mins timeframe in a tiny motel room? They are sex machines, serving multiple dicks a day. What personality are you talking about? You go in, fuck, get out. Sometimes without asking her name.Sometimes can be 30 minutes, but if I find one I like, I see her again, she can stay the night or we go out for some drinks or food.

Sex machines. I know a girl in Thailand that claims she used to have 10 guys per day. Now she was FULL of personality. Haha.

Balboa
07-18-21, 00:51
You get to know them by getting a coffee, a beer, chitchatting before, you know, people skills. I've been picking up SW since I was 16 in NYC, it's called building rapport. Then you can get DFK BBBJ DATY like I do with many regulars at no upcharge because theyre into you. My hipster girl marley that stands at the far end behind the museum treats me like her fiance on a honeymoon everytime for 40k. and shes a solid 8. go check her out if you want
.Exactly JW!

I've been roaming Centro in Medellin for 20 years now.

I've found my best girls there actually.

Some guys get it, some don't, who cares really, everyone's got their own way.

If you treat her like a sex machine puta, she'll treat you like a quick client.

Rapport as you say, goes a long way.

Enjoy!

Member #4729
07-18-21, 00:51
This Medellin thread is ridiculous and barely useable. I often feel like mongers here (specifically) are talking to themselves with their posts, reassuring themselves that theirs is the best way, that unlike the other losers they are the most frugal, quality minded, well traveled, skillful, vagina wettening, prolific,. (insert x quality) of mongers and just waiting desperately by that keyboard for someone to confirm their self-regard with a re-quote.

Keep in mind that half of the "conquests" here are rank fabulations and gross exaggeration- that when someone says they fucked a 9 in Centro for 30 k, it was probably more like an 8. 3 for 50 k- that when they said they had 3 threesomes with 3 sisters and the cousins in 3 consecutive days, it was probably more like 1 threesome with a friend on a Monday. That when someone brags about banging 4 girls a day for 4 straight weeks, that's probably 6 girls a week for two weeks, and so on, and so on. It's ok, that's what men do- I'm sure I'm guilty of bullshitting at many points. If you know you did it, then who cares? Be secure in that. Why do you feel the need to advertise and then defend the blowback? The most prolific mongers will have lost track of the specifics- it's just who they are. It's also OK not to be a prolific monger. It' all ok.

Let's also remember these are not "conquests". These are girls we pay money to have sex with us, and despite the delusions of several here-no they are not going to have sex with you if you do not pay them no matter how spectacular your personality is. What the eff even is that delusion? You don't even get it for "free" with a non-pro, there is always some sort of cost. If you got sex for "free" consider that you paid for it 6 other times and then divide the sum by 7- there that's what it cost.

Bottom line, these arguments over style often run into needlessly elliptical personal skirmishes and neurotic displays that waste everyone's time. A good report is to the point, illustrative, full of specifics, and with real actionable intelligence. Endless opinion pieces and back and forth attacks make this resource harder to utilize- and again I will point specifically to this thread to be among the worst.

I'll be man enough to admit that this post even of itself is unnecessary and part of the problem.

There's no wrong way to monger, but there is a way to junk up the forum.

Peace.

MiamiBoy1
07-18-21, 01:34
Exactly JW!

If you treat her like a sex machine puta, she'll treat you like a quick client.

Enjoy!Rather SHE treats you like a quick client / ATM / stupid gringo / you name it, no matter how you treat her. She can't wait to be done with you and go back to Lleras / Centro / Gusto etc to find another paying client.

Yes, rapport goes a long way, but with non-pros or semi-pros, who actually care about chemistry and want to have fun and enjoy themselves.

Every hardcore puta tries to maximize her income. She tells you she is done for tonight and going home, but goes back to Lleras if she thinks she can get some more cash.

MiamiBoy1
07-18-21, 01:44
1) You clearly haven't spent a lot of time in centro, if any, IE pollonegro style, 6 hours a day, everyday, weeks on end. Guys don't pay a premium becuase theyre locals, they pay local prices, not gringo prices like in lleras. I paid 40 k + 16 room for my 9 estefania, you can go see her rn if you're otg, which you're probably not so IDK why you're arguing on this forum. lol.

2) These girls are not "sex machines". I forget the number of times a girl was so grateful because I was her first or second client of the day and she can go home finally because it was late.

I forget that a lot of guys monger out of necessity, not choice hahaha.

You get to know them by getting a coffee, a beer, chitchatting before, you know, people skills. I've been picking up SW since I was 16 in NYC, it's called building rapport. Then you can get DFK BBBJ DATY like I do with many regulars at no upcharge because theyre into you. My hipster girl marley that stands at the far end behind the museum treats me like her fiance on a honeymoon everytime for 40k. and shes a solid 8. go check her out if you want

You should put in more work before making such grandiose statements and accusations miamikid.Doesn't matter if they are locals or not. (there are rich locals too) High quality girls are very hard to find, therefore the price you pay to fuck them is higher. Supply and demand, my friend. If your Selena Gomez exists, PM me her location and I will gladly go check her out since I'm on the ground. Maybe your 9 is my 6, and that would explain everything.

"First or second client of the day and she can go home finally because it was late"? LOL. Of course, you are her first! Any day. LOL. Please, stop being so naive. She probably goes back to lleras / centro looking for another client after you are done. And if she really goes home, this is because she already had enough of dicks to call it a night.

JustTK
07-18-21, 02:01
High quality girls are very hard to find, therefore the price you pay to fuck them is higher.
"First or second client of the day and she can go home finally because it was late"? LOL. Of course, you are her first! Any day. LOL. Please, stop being so naive. She probably goes back to lleras / centro looking for another client after you are done. And if she really goes home, this is because she already had enough of dicks to call it a night.You seem to have a warped view of sex workers. First you say you have to pay a high price for high quality, meaning that you think pros can be high quality. Then you ridicule them for having sex. You can't have it both ways.

I am curious to know why you think a girl has more value if she has less sex. Are you a Muslim?

Jim0129
07-18-21, 02:39
I got back from 2 weeks trip in Colombia. One of these weeks I spend in Medellin, 5 days in Bogota, 3 in Cartagena. Here are my random thoughts, reports and tips.

I read the forum and met a lot of advices about cheap girls in Centro and places like that. People were interested about cheap price rather then good quality. Well, I visited Centro but honestly it was very very low quality, the atmosphere in that kind of area is pretty awful and I'm thinking that you have to be really desperate to come to Centro for girls. Or a 50+ old gringo without a social media account.

Every girl that I met was from Tinder and Instagram, mostly from Insta. My Spanish is practically non existent and from the 7-8 girls that I met, non of them can speak English. But somehow that did not stop us of from having a really good time, mainly because of Google Translate, the positive chicks that I met and my Spanish vocabulary consisting 150 Spanish words.

Here you will read a lot of info about SWs, Centro girls, cheap options, etc. My report is for people who are looking for something else. I did not find a lot of info about that kind of travellers. I mean, people who are looking for a normal girls, working something in real life, going to university and so on. If you want a quality girl with tight pussy that did not fucked 100+ mens in the last 2 months, then go to Instagram. Send tons of messages, some of them will be answered and then it's easy. Colombian girls are super friendly, willing to meet gringos and to have some fun. Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you.

And because almost none of the reports here mention how much you give to the girls, I'll make an exception. I mean this info is pretty important and I don't'know why most of the brothers here are skipping that part. We do not care about reports "I fuck her all night, she finished 10+ times, I am the best lover in the world". So, some valuable info. I gave them from 0 to 300 pesos and some times I was so impressed that I gave them some tips (50-100 pesos) or I pay for the Uber.

I booked an Airbnb with a living room with a big nice sofa, kitchen with a bar area with 2 bar chairs. Separate bedroom. All the time I had in stock beer, wine, ice cream, chocolate and things like that. The effect is that the girl comes and then did not want to leave. Most of the times the girls stayed 4-5-6 hours. We fucked like crazy animals, drinking naked all the time, the girls are dancing, having fun hours after they planed to leave. And they know how to show their gratitude to you for the good time that they have.

So my honest advice is forget about cheap SWs, Centro girls, Parque Lleras, etc. And do not bargain for 50 pesos. Why, what's the point? We are tourist, come here to have fun, not to save money. Pay 100-200 pesos extra and enjoy life. After all let's not forgive that 100 pesos are $25. The girls came to your own place, you know pretty good what to expect after scanning the Insta profile and you got a normal girl, not а girl that is literally depreciated (both physical and mentally).

The summary was:

- 7 different girls. Almost all of them stayed 5+ hours. The "oldest" was 23 years old. Most of them 20-21.

- 3 asses fucked, one of them virgin. And she stayed from 6 pm to midnight. Yeah, it was really memorable night!

- one 18 years old lesbian, living with her girlfriend from more then a year. And yeah, you can see that from her Insta profile.

- Tons of photos, videos and good memories. With most of the girls we keep in touch even after I came back.

- I showed the photos and the videos to my friends and now everybody either hates me or wants to come to Colombia. Or both jajaja.

Yeah, I spend twice more than the SWs lovers. But I spent it on a nice airbnb; wines, beers and ice creams, and on a quality girls. And I'm a happy man. That's the most important thing.I totally agree with you, I've been looking for someone who would spend money on the higher end girls, all that casas and centro girls are low grade and their conversation it's also very basic and low, I'm hispanic and I speak spanish and after sex I usually want to talk to the girls and the street girls have nothing to say that it's worth anything, I guess you get what you pay for.

Osteoknot
07-18-21, 03:24
Granted she wasn't at Vera Cruz, she was at the Nutibara edge of Botero park. She wasn't dressed like a P4 P, and she was clean and tight. She was leaning under the metro track in the shade. I gave her a double take only because her beauty was so stunning and the way we locked eyes I knew something was up, so I walked over to her and a started a Spangilsh convo. She wanted to March right to my room at Hotel Botero with me and fuck by brains out for 40 mil COP. I got her phone number because I was on my way somewhere, but we never hooked up. I guarantee you she was not an El Centro regular but a woman, looked about 19 who needed some quick cash, and she knew where to go get it The whole culture in Colombia is like that. So many chicas fail safe back up plan it sell their wet holes, and you find some 9. 5's.

The most beautiful girl I fucked in Rio was standing about 150 meters away from the entrance to HELP disco at 3 AM in the dark because she couldn't pay the cover. Her boyfriend sent her down from the favela you can see from the City, to pay the rent. All the beautiful girls were supposedly inside HELP, but not her. I literally threw her on my back and carried her back to my room.

You can make generalizations, which by their very definition, have exceptions, Be ready, be aware, make your move.

SureMan
07-18-21, 03:26
I totally agree with you, I've been looking for someone who would spend money on the higher end girls, all that casas and centro girls are low grade and their conversation it's also very basic and low, I'm hispanic and I speak spanish and after sex I usually want to talk to the girls and the street girls have nothing to say that it's worth anything, I guess you get what you pay for.I actually did the same.

Did not go to centro.

Had girls over by the San Peter apartment.

I did get pictures also anal sex.

True girls stayed around 4 hours for about 200 mil pesos.

Cost of apartment was 140 mil peso.

Was in the 11th floor.

The view was amazing.

All the girls loved it.

Taking pictures.

I will be back next month.

SureMan
07-18-21, 03:41
No shit!

That's exactly why you shouldn't be paying that much for a pop.

In a 3rd world country, 100 usd is a couple weeks salary.

Surf what is the price in centro? 30 mil? That's about one days pay for a Colombian, do you think that's underpaying them?

Cmon bro.So why are you going to a thirld country.

You gringos think you're very smart.

They laugh at you.

You're supposed to be from the best country in the world.

But guess what you go to a third world country.

Colombians are smart.

I laugh at you gringos.

Nounce
07-18-21, 03:55
The recent reports are good except one should refrain from talking about things that you don't have experience of, I. E. El Centro.

For example,

After reading these

I get some older members or maybe certain types of mongers get a kick out of being "centro rats", but if you're a younger dude, skip that shit.


...I'm thinking that you have to be really desperate to come to Centro for girls. Or a 50+ old gringo without a social media account.

Then I read this

... I'm a simple man and the girls in centro do me just fine, I'm also only 28 so a lot of times it ends up being free too.
I think JW is young too.

I am not exactly sure what is high quality. From the reports, it simply sounds more like the girls are higher quality because they charge a lot more?

Surfer500
07-18-21, 04:05
I totally agree with you, I've been looking for someone who would spend money on the higher end girls, all that casas and centro girls are low grade and their conversation it's also very basic and low, I'm hispanic and I speak spanish and after sex I usually want to talk to the girls and the street girls have nothing to say that it's worth anything, I guess you get what you pay for.I find this interesting, I'm not Hispanic, but pass as a Colombian looks wise as I have been told, and would say I'm semi-fluent in Spanish, and have had some very interesting conversations with the girls in Centro, albeit the very hard core putas won't give you the time of day after you have blown your load.

For some guys, the higher end girls might mean they dress better, have pretty faces, and cost more. Yet for someone like myself, I could care less how they dress, and they don't need to have a pretty face. But a nice body, yes, and a nympho, meaning their into it to get off just like you are.

The problem with the girls in the casa's are that they are like machines, with the goal of getting you to blow a load versus them getting off as quickly as possible, where as when your paying a "higher end" girl to stay a while, you will have the time to hopefully have a much better experience versus in a casa or with a SW for a short period of time. Albeit there are some guys that just want a pretty face and to blow a load, and then immediately bail with no interaction.

Maybe sometime try another Centro girl but negotiate a timeframe equivalent to how much time you would spend with a higher end girl. Being Hispanic and speaking Spanish is huge, and you might have an experience which would change your perception of higher end girls.

I believe once the lights are dimmed, and the clothes are off, it can be hard to distinguish between a higher end girl, and a lower end girl.

Regardless of what I have said, everybody rolls different here, with no way being the right way.

And I am in no way criticizing your personal preferences.

Surfer500
07-18-21, 04:16
I am not exactly sure what is high quality. From the reports, it simply sounds more like the girls are higher quality because they charge a lot more?Yes, there's a perception that paying more means higher quality which includes paying more for the nice clothes they wear, and how straight and white their teeth are along with the pretty faces as well. As I have said before, and will say again, once the lights are dimmed, and the clothes off, how do you distinguish between a higher and lower quality girl assuming their body's are similar.

Nounce
07-18-21, 04:40
Do you have that number handy or can you tell us how you got it. I can ask my hotel receptionist to schedule it for me. Thanks.The number is here.


I am in Medellin and I have used in the past, the IDme office located across the SantaFe mall, in Poblado. They are conveniently located and charge only 50 K cops. However this time around, they are not taking walk-ins. They require that one calls and set up an appointment. Their number is 604-6646.

Osteoknot
07-18-21, 04:42
And the plan is for us to get STD tested before we meet up so we don't have to use condoms. (Assuming we both test clean--I know I will LOL).

Any suggestions for getting STD tested? Anyone know the costs are how long it takes to get results? Anyone know what kind of proof they offer so If my girls get tested without me, I can see proof they really were tested and a re negative? I'd like some bareback action with a couple of them--but I don't want to be stupid about it.I would say you're one short for a game of Bridge. Kidding. That anachronistic joke was really an homage to Villainy.

You need at least ten girls for a a stable, I rank mine, and here's the clincher, I tell them ALL what their number is. My "system" has held up better than I thought for over a year. When I arrive in Medellin later this month, I start with the lowest available number girl and work my way up. I will stay with about half at their place I'll spare you the details. One of the rules all the girls follow is you can't countermand any girl that has a higher ranking. Catch my drift? So when I leave one girl's house to go to another's there's no discussion or argument because I use the rankings and they are all informed. There's much more to it and believe it or not, it's about everyone getting along and openness. Oh, and the three-way and four-way sexual encounters within the stable, are an added benefit. I think they almost always include me, jajaja IF a girl with high ranking asks another to have sex, she is not supposed to refuse. Just occurred to me now, all my girls in the Top Ten are bisexual. There is a saying in Medellin, haven't seen it here yet, "When a girl cheats on you, it's with another girl".

Loosely these descriptions also apply. 1-3 or 4 are novia, but Number One is the queen, and I've had the same Queen from the day I set foot in Medellin. Well, Number ONe stayed vacant one time for about a month, while we fought about why I flew into Medellin and she I was in Cartagena, probably fucking around, jajaja. Numbers 5-7 are amigas or friends with benefits. 8-10 are chicas. Anything above a ten is a puta.

Initially the girls are turned off by it, no one wants to be "a number". But then they totally embrace it and are competitive about it, and they always want to know their number is. Scarlet was a rocket on my last and move up 3 spots to sort of a tie at number Three with Soft Swirl,. Basically she gave me the most free sex and her asshole virginity. You know, things I could relate to. There's more to it, but everyone seems pretty content for now. And I realize I did not answer your question, jaja. Be there in nine days.

Lefeu
07-18-21, 04:56
...once the lights are dimmed, and the clothes off, how do you distinguish between a higher and lower quality girl assuming their body's are similar.How about using their performance in the sack. That's the criteria I use.

Nounce
07-18-21, 07:42
I believe once the lights are dimmed, and the clothes are off, it can be hard to distinguish between a higher end girl, and a lower end girl.
That is why I keep my lights on to see what I pay for. lol.

Mojo Bandit
07-18-21, 07:58
You don't get it. I'm not paying $100 for the pussy. I'm paying $100 for the convenience of not . I'm paying $100 to .


Yes, I would usually spend closer to $50, which is why I gave the range of $50-$100 in my earlier post. It's just that people chose to focus on the $100 number. The $100 is figurative here, not literal.To be fair I am just pointing out that in the post where I am quoting you, You said "I'm paying $100" essentially three times in one paragraph. There is no shame in back tracking, I can get 7's to come to my apartment if 150 k cop but there are some 9's that I will pay 200 k plus taxi (the 9 is a rating of looks and service). There are also a couple that will not leave there house for less than 250 k because they are gorgeous and know that they have a reputation for porn start service and they seem to make enough off of their Fans Only pages that they do not have to chase every cita that comes along.

One chica that fit the description of porn star service who I have not hit her up in a couple of years so I do not know if she even takes citas anymore, I recently looked to see how many "fans" she has (not something I spend money on) and it says 2. 4 thousand. I do not know how that works as far as are they all active subscribers but at if subscribers equals fans that is some crazy money of each person is paying at the most economical rate, $26 for six months x 2400 and she keeps 80% before she pays taxes, that is crazy money in Colombia. Hell that is decent money in the USA.

Surfer500
07-18-21, 11:56
How about using their performance in the sack. That's the criteria I use.None of the girls in my stable would be considered high end, totally on the other end of the spectrum, yet are all performers, and hence wouldn't be in my stable if they weren't.

It's always such a box of chocolates with women you go with the first time.

There's just no way of telling of how their going to perform, but also is a function of how the guy interacts with the girl.

Surfer500
07-18-21, 11:58
That is why I keep my lights on to see what I pay for. lol.And that's why I keep the lights off, I don't want to see what I paid chump change for. LOL.

Surfer500
07-18-21, 12:02
Do you really mean that? Who are these old guys. I am pretty sure it is not Surfer who probably is wealthier than most. I have met some living in Colombia who are poor but they are not old.There are no "broke ass old guys" on this board as you have surmised.

Just Incognito
07-18-21, 12:48
I would say you're one short for a game of Bridge. Kidding. That anachronistic joke was really an homage to Villainy.

You need at least ten girls for a a stable, I rank mine, and here's the clincher, I tell them ALL what their number is. My "system" has held up better than I thought for over a year. When I arrive in Medellin later this month, I start with the lowest available number girl and work my way up. I will stay with about half at their place I'll spare you the details. One of the rules all the girls follow is you can't countermand any girl that has a higher ranking. Catch my drift? So when I leave one girl's house to go to another's there's no discussion or argument because I use the rankings and they are all informed. There's much more to it and believe it or not, it's about everyone getting along and openness. Oh, and the three-way and four-way sexual encounters within the stable, are an added benefit. I think they almost always include me, jajaja IF a girl with high ranking asks another to have sex, she is not supposed to refuse. Just occurred to me now, all my girls in the Top Ten are bisexual. There is a saying in Medellin, haven't seen it here yet, "When a girl cheats on you, it's with another girl".

Loosely these descriptions also apply. 1-3 or 4 are novia, but Number One is the queen, and I've had the same Queen from the day I set foot in Medellin. Well, Number ONe stayed vacant one time for about a month, while we fought about why I flew into Medellin and she I was in Cartagena, probably fucking around, jajaja. Numbers 5-7 are amigas or friends with benefits. 8-10 are chicas. Anything above a ten is a puta..My stable is actually 8 girls right now, but only 2 I want to get tested and go bareback with right now since they are not regular pre-paid. The others-even with a test I want a condom on LOL.

And no, didn't answer the question.

My girls don't know about each other so we have different systems.

By 'stable' I meant: reliable pussy I have to rotate through in Medellin that I have been with before and will be with again.

Balboa
07-18-21, 13:37
Rather SHE treats you like a quick client / ATM / stupid gringo / you name it, no matter how you treat her. She can't wait to be done with you and go back to Lleras / Centro / Gusto etc to find another paying client.

Yes, rapport goes a long way, but with non-pros or semi-pros, who actually care about chemistry and want to have fun and enjoy themselves.

Every hardcore puta tries to maximize her income. She tells you she is done for tonight and going home, but goes back to Lleras if she thinks she can get some more cash.Thanks for the lesson, Lol.

I'll go back on silent mode.

The "experts" have arrived in Medellin, smh.

DramaFree11
07-18-21, 13:42
I highly doubt you fucked a solid 9. I haven't seen any 9's in El Centro, even 8's are very hard to find. What makes them a 9 is not only the fact that they get dolled up, but also a healthy lifestyle. Healthy food, gym, good sleep, no stress, no bad habits (smoking, etc), low mileage. All of the above take a lot of effort, time and money. Yeah, eating clean is pricey. Do you know why most of them are fat? Because they eat cheap unhealthy food and they don't exercise. They are just too broke to eat clean. A true 9 will never work El Centro, because she will be in high demand and since the supply of 9's is low, her rate will go up. Guys will always pay premium for high quality, anywhere on the planet. When someone says "I fucked a solid 9 in El Centro" (and for how much? 50-70 mil cop?) I get skeptical.M. Boy is 100% correct on this one. Guys that say they are bagging 8-10's for $75-100 are delusional. I highly doubt it, maybe once, but multiple girls no way, this goes for any destination. He is also correct it takes a healthy lifestyle to be super hot and maintain that look over time. Correct, those girls are not running the streets or hanging out in a low end casa. To find those girls you need the language, money, time and local connection. This goes for any destination. Trues 8's and above can write there own tickets even during a crisis. Nice report.

The truth is most of the guys that clam they with multiple high end girls are lying and would not know how to handle a super hot chick.

Balboa
07-18-21, 13:48
This Medellin thread is ridiculous and barely useable.
There's no wrong way to monger, but there is a way to junk up the forum.
Peace.Right on the money Zebra.

Mtndew704
07-18-21, 14:41
You don't get it. I'm not paying $100 for the pussy. I'm paying $100 for the convenience of not having to go hunting in centro for the rare decent looking chick. I'm paying $100 to be able to relax at my own place in my nice bed and have a chick come over rather than be in some dingy short time hotel in Centro. Or $100 to go to a mansion in the hills and be shown a line up where there's at least a couple of guaranteed 9's. We're so diametrically opposed to how we monger that it would be difficult for you to understand. If you like the deals you get in Centro and are willing to put in the work, more power to you. I want something else entirely.I wouldn't call walking around and having a few beers "work" but hey to each their own LOL. Also if you see a chica you like in the streets your chances of fucking her are 10 x more likely then through the computer / phone.

Surfer500
07-18-21, 16:19
The truth is most of the guys that clam they with multiple high end girls are lying and would not know how to handle a super hot chick.My definition of a "super hot chick" is one that is nasty, lets me come in her mouth if I want and swallows, and fucks the daylight out of me. Basically a nympho in heat with moves!

So what defines a "super hot chick" for you, and what do you mean that some guys wouldn't be able to handle them.

Is there something special about a super hot chick besides being nicely dressed with a pretty face.

Mojo Bandit
07-18-21, 16:23
Thanks for the lesson, Lol.

I'll go back on silent mode.

The "experts" have arrived in Medellin, smh.I agree with your original sentiment. Even though you and I have different styles as far as mongering, the concept still applies. (you like Centro, I prefer to sit in my apartment and order off the FB menu) I tell people this all the time, build a rapport with the chica and the process is so much more relaxed for them so they are far less mechanical. They also do not watch the clock, I had a chica in Cartagena who I used to have to pack up all my bags like I was going to the airport to get rid of her, she would stay at my apartment for days for the price of ST. You never know what the dividends might be for building a rapport with the chica.

Osteoknot
07-18-21, 16:36
My stable is actually 8 girls right now, but only 2 I want to get tested and go bareback with right now since they are not regular pre-paid. The others-even with a test I want a condom on LOL.

And no, didn't answer the question.

My girls don't know about each other so we have different systems.

By 'stable' I meant: reliable pussy I have to rotate through in Medellin that I have been with before and will be with again.Damn InterWeb, too much inflection and humor is lost. Whatever works for any individual monger, as long as no gets hurt in the process. Is good.

Be there in less than a week. I'll quote Stimpy, "Happy, happy, joy, joy".

Mojo Bandit
07-18-21, 16:40
I wouldn't call walking around and having a few beers "work" but hey to each their own LOL. Also if you see a chica you like in the streets your chances of fucking her are 10 x more likely then through the computer / phone.I have no problem with your claim that you enjoy cruising around looking for putas and having a few beers along the way, if I was 15 years younger I would probably balance my time in Centro but the six years of trudging for miles with 120 pounds of equipment on for Uncle Sam catches up to in the form of arthritis in ones later years and I am almost do for knee replacements so -the walking around on concrete sidewalks, I will leave that to you. It actually does sound like it could be fun. But I have to disagree about "chances of fucking her are 10 x more likely".

You do your searches while having a few beers walking around, but I do mine sitting in my home office gathering contacts and weeding our any flaky or greedy chicas, by the time I set up a list of chicas that I want to have citas with my chances are 100%.

I do my research so my experience will be better, but it is true that some random guy who just randomly sends an all business messages to a FB chica has about 50% chance of getting flaked on because he did not screen her, if you know what you are doing the chances go up to 100%.

Regnom3000
07-18-21, 16:59
Hey fellas,

Long time lurker. First time posting. Debated whether to write this or not cause I'm so green but figured a) I got a lot of perspective from this thread so I owe it to y'all and b) if there are any other newbies out there they might find this useful.

For context: 30, 5'9, 155, from New York. Very average build and look. Run a little online biz and spent some years in Asia and Mexico. Have been hearing about the weather and people Medellin for years so wanted to check it out.

Have never paid for any sort of sex work before, I'm normally a FWB or girlfriend kind of guy and throughout my life have done pretty well with women.

That said, after a string of about 4 dates here that were less than stellar, I realized that as much as I was paying to take these girls out, I could probably hire a professional and get exactly what I was looking for.

The thought had never been on my radar before, even though I lived across from a brothel in Thailand (Asian women aren't really my type so that was never appealing to me). But for some reason as soon as I had the thought about hiring a pro I couldn't shake it.

It's hard to describe the feeling, but the best word I' say is consuming. Exciting, thrilling, maybe even a little taboo or dangerous at the same time.

Went down the rabbit hole and found myself here on the ISG forums with y'all figuring out how the whole scene works.

Realized reading about it wasn't getting me anywhere, so figured I'd check out the map and go stroll around the areas in Centro just to catch a vibe.

Don't think that's my scene. Spent a few hours exploring and chatting with a few ladies, overall a lot of the hotels and vibe I'd say just felt. Heavy. To each their own, I just realized I'm an intimate guy and would probably be better served at one of the cases or a freelancer who would provide more of a GFE.

Cut to last night. I decided to check out Energy Spa near the stadium. Just like described on these forums: you chat with the boss lady running the joint and they bring out the girls one by one, they do a little spin, and then you choose who you want.

Out of the 12 or so I saw I'd say there were only two options for me.

#15 (can't remember her name) or Melissa, #55, a curvy Venezuelan girl who had a great smile and didn't seem entirely dead inside.

Asked to speak with Melissa for a bit and negotiated with her to include kissing (normally an upsell I think).

She takes me to the room and I tell her I'd rather skip the massage part and just make out for a bit. We start kissing a little and I can tell she's not super into it (and to be fair, if I was fucking for 8 hours a day I probably wouldn't be either).

But I'm the type of guy I need some warm up first, and she's ready to just get down to business.

The deed gets done, and then we lay there just chatting and joking around, having some laughs. I ask her about her life and the gig, and she said she's only been doing it for 2 months. After a while she says she's going to shower and I'm welcome to join her.

As we're both dressing and getting ready to leave I talk to her about the splits she has with the casa. I tell her I'd be down to pay her double what they do if she'll do house calls. She said she normally doesn't do that but maybe in the future. I take her number.

Then here we are. Good ol' Sunday morning. And I'm not sure how to feel about it. I had a blast, but I'm not sure she did. And truthfully, this is something I should probably work out with a therapist and not on the internet, but still think you guys might have some gems for me.

When I psychoanalyze myself and this experience I think a big part of the pleasure I get from sex is knowing my partner is also having a good time, which I don't think she necessarily did.

So. To wrap this whole thing up I got questions for y'all. Do I try to hire Mel out and give it another shot? Do I try another casa / escort and see if the experience is better? Or stick with non-pros and see if I can find one that's down for something casual?

In my perfect world once or twice a week I'd have the girl over, we'd smash, watch a movie, eat some ice cream, smash again, and then I'd call her a cab home.

Is that a service I can hire for? Ha.

Appreciate the gems y'all have dropped in here, and if you guys got any questions I'm happy to elaborate on any or all of it.

Over and out - 3 K.

Mtndew704
07-18-21, 17:26
I have no problem with your claim that you enjoy cruising around looking for putas and having a few beers along the way, if I was 15 years younger I would probably balance my time in Centro but the six years of trudging for miles with 120 pounds of equipment on for Uncle Sam catches up to in the form of arthritis in ones later years and I am almost do for knee replacements so -the walking around on concrete sidewalks, I will leave that to you. It actually does sound like it could be fun. But I have to disagree about "chances of fucking her are 10 x more likely".

You do your searches while having a few beers walking around, but I do mine sitting in my home office gathering contacts and weeding our any flaky or greedy chicas, by the time I set up a list of chicas that I want to have citas with my chances are 100%.

I do my research so my experience will be better, but it is true that some random guy who just randomly sends an all business messages to a FB chica has about 50% chance of getting flaked on because he did not screen her, if you know what you are doing the chances go up to 100%.1. Thank you for your service.

2. I got an unlocked iPhone with a Colombian sim card so I do that shit in the streets.

3. If I'm downtown and a chica is at minimum a semi-pro and I have cash in hand, she's getting fucked and sometimes they got a friend / sister / cousin / mom / auntie / grandma that want some cash too.

4. I don't live in Medellin and only come on vacation so I'm not sitting around all day, that's boring.

I was there this past March and holy shit downtown is stacked, girls everywhere it was insane. But yeah I can agree, during holy week the FB chicas came in handy cause shit fell way off in the streets.

MiamiSammy
07-18-21, 17:31
I have no problem with your claim that you enjoy cruising around looking for putas and having a few beers along the way, if I was 15 years younger I would probably balance my time in Centro but the six years of trudging for miles with 120 pounds of equipment on for Uncle Sam catches up to in the form of arthritis in ones later years and I am almost do for knee replacements so -the walking around on concrete sidewalks, I will leave that to you. It actually does sound like it could be fun. But I have to disagree about "chances of fucking her are 10 x more likely".

You do your searches while having a few beers walking around, but I do mine sitting in my home office gathering contacts and weeding our any flaky or greedy chicas, by the time I set up a list of chicas that I want to have citas with my chances are 100%.

I do my research so my experience will be better, but it is true that some random guy who just randomly sends an all business messages to a FB chica has about 50% chance of getting flaked on because he did not screen her, if you know what you are doing the chances go up to 100%.120 lb pack? GTFO. 80 lb? Sure. 120? GTFO.

MiamiSammy
07-18-21, 17:33
M. Boy is 100% correct on this one. Guys that say they are bagging 8-10's for $75-100 are delusional. I highly doubt it, maybe once, but multiple girls no way, this goes for any destination. He is also correct it takes a healthy lifestyle to be super hot and maintain that look over time. Correct, those girls are not running the streets or hanging out in a low end casa. To find those girls you need the language, money, time and local connection. This goes for any destination. Trues 8's and above can write there own tickets even during a crisis. Nice report.

The truth is most of the guys that clam they with multiple high end girls are lying and would not know how to handle a super hot chick.Everything is relative. A 4 in Medellin is an 11 in Toledo.

Paulie97
07-18-21, 17:59
M. Boy is 100% correct on this one. Guys that say they are bagging 8-10's for $75-100 are delusional. I highly doubt it, maybe once, but multiple girls no way, this goes for any destination. He is also correct it takes a healthy lifestyle to be super hot and maintain that look over time. Correct, those girls are not running the streets or hanging out in a low end casa. To find those girls you need the language, money, time and local connection. This goes for any destination. Trues 8's and above can write there own tickets even during a crisis. Nice report.

The truth is most of the guys that clam they with multiple high end girls are lying and would not know how to handle a super hot chick.He's "100% correct?" he said that most of the girls in Centro are fat, which demonstrates that he's spent little or no time in the casas or strip clubs, or that he's simply dishonest. There's also plenty of hot girls in these venues that eat reasonably healthy and do not have substance abuse issues. To assume otherwise is to do so without evidence. Doesn't seem that you've spent much time in Centro either.

P.S. Your prices are off by quite a bit. In casas it's around $14, strip clubs 25 to 30. Though it can take some hunting around on a given day, eights on a lot of guys scales with the occasional nine are not hard to find. And again they are the same strata one and two "barrio girls" guys pay five to ten times more for in the tourist traps. You may get more makeup and surgery for your money though. But you're right about one thing though, as it's true that these are likely to be harder to handle. Not because they are heathier, classier, or hotter, but because they've been spoiled by tourist money.

Enjoy gentlemen.

DramaFree11
07-18-21, 18:16
Everything is relative. A 4 in Medellin is an 11 in Toledo.Nope 9/10's are in a league of there own. They can write there own ticket.

Sangnyc21
07-18-21, 18:47
M. Boy is 100% correct on this one. Guys that say they are bagging 8-10's for $75-100 are delusional. I highly doubt it, maybe once, but multiple girls no way, this goes for any destination. He is also correct it takes a healthy lifestyle to be super hot and maintain that look over time. Correct, those girls are not running the streets or hanging out in a low end casa. To find those girls you need the language, money, time and local connection. This goes for any destination. Trues 8's and above can write there own tickets even during a crisis. Nice report.

The truth is most of the guys that clam they with multiple high end girls are lying and would not know how to handle a super hot chick.10000% agreed here.

True universal 8's and above have social circles full of men and even women wanting a piece of them. They'll find a way to make big $$. You're never going to see them in centro and casas.

These girls have the latest iPhones bags cars etc. These are somethings that many mongers don't even have or even afford.

There are men who come from Dubai and other countries that throw FU money at these girls. I mean tons. Meanwhile they go back home to their wife and kids and just maintain their Colombian novias by sending them 2-3 k usd a month. Just because they can. These girls all look to hit the gringo jackpot. Can you blame them?

You ever notice a new girl whose drop dead gorgeous comes on the scene? She's never there too long. Someone grabs her up. Whether it's a gringo BF or someone teaches her to make more $$ That's just how it goes.

Elvis 2008
07-18-21, 18:53
This advice is coming from the perspective of a younger guy. For me, the most important thing is getting to fuck solid 9's and 10's. A lot of people in this forum will talk about cento girls but the truth is the quality (at least from what I saw) is lower than what I can reasonably expect to get on my own in America, so why the fuck would I come to Colombia to fuck those chicks? I get some older members or maybe certain types of mongers get a kick out of being "centro rats", but if you're a younger dude, skip that shit.I am like you. I think it has more to do with people and money than age though. I have seen seniors who are picky, and I was as well.


For me, the main appeal of my time mongering in Colombia was being able to fuck a couple of 9's and 10's that normally I would have no chance with.Of all the stupid shit I have read on this forum, the worst is that Colombian women really want to hang with their broke ass novios. Daga, you are young, able to get to Colombia and do not think $100 is that much money. Your income potential is in the millions. You are a very high value asset but you have been beaten down by American women and society so much, you do not get what an asset you really are. I repeat. You do not get what a stud you are.

I almost let my current novia slip through my hands because she was too good to be true: a 10 in looks, a 10 in sex, and the highest sex drive I have ever seen. She fucked the shit out of me and did not ask for a dime.

She has modeled since age 14, has a job in government, and she has her own money. I do not think she is a unicorn. A friend of mine who I had kept my life hidden from asked about why I travel so much. I broke down and told him everything. I thought he was married, but he is divorced and was thrilled at what I told him.

I reached out to the 6 best candidates for him after my ending a 2-3 year search, and they all responded. I was kind of like "Uh, why did I give all these women up? But I did. They are wife material.

So yeah, have your fun and bang the hottest 9's and 10's you can, but the best sex is not with a woman fucking different guys all the time, but the ones who hold themselves back for the men they care about.

When you pay working girls, you get used to thinking that they are not hot women out there who would fuck you for free, and there are. It takes more work to get them but if you work the cupid sites, seeking.com, and Facebook, you will find one. Mine was in an abusive relationship and secluded herself.

The fact that you cannot fuck 9's and 10's in the USA sex prison says more about how women have let themselves go, make themselves victims in any situation, and how bad the golden pussy syndrome in the USA sex prison is. Hell, we have 300 lb. Women wearing bikinis on Instagram.

The value in a site like this is the biggest middle finger men can give to the USA sex prison society and feminism. Take your money and say no to American women. Honestly, there are not many women who produce things of real value. The reason women make so much less than men is they do not work as hard and so many of their jobs are unnecessary. There is no point in arguing about it though. You just go to where it is better.

I am not saying that is what you have to do right now. Have your fun but do not let it erode your confidence. You do not have to pay to fuck hot women.

Mr Enternational
07-18-21, 19:12
Nope 9/10's are in a league of there own. They can write there own ticket.So 9's and 10's don't need to be hookers at all I would surmise from this.

Sangnyc21
07-18-21, 19:43
So 9's and 10's don't need to be hookers at all I would surmise from this.They absolutely have to sell their bodies. But they won't be caught in centro or casas when there's a line of guys willing to change their lives.

Nounce
07-18-21, 19:44
In my perfect world once or twice a week I'd have the girl over, we'd smash, watch a movie, eat some ice cream, smash again, and then I'd call her a cab home.

Is that a service I can hire for? Ha.
I think Facebook is what you need but it takes time. Follow this link to get started. It will be worth buying the membership so others can give you more contacts to speed it up.


Try these as the starting point to build your list.If you don't have time, you can go to La Isla. The price is high but it is fixed if you have sex on site. You just need to negotiate service with the girl. You can pay by credit card. You can search for words "Lleras" or "Gusto" here to find more freelancer information but the prices in these areas can vary greatly.

DramaFree11
07-18-21, 19:54
Yep, any guy claiming they are banging multiple 8's and above on a short trip is lying, especially for $100 or less. There are destinations where you can get those kinds of girls, but it will be big money. You can have those type of girls, but it will be $300-500 minimum.

Nil Admirari
07-18-21, 20:01
I believe once the lights are dimmed, and the clothes are off, it can be hard to distinguish between a higher end girl, and a lower end girl. Regardless of what I have said, everybody rolls different here, with no way being the right way. For sure, to each his own when it comes to mode of mongering. For me, in culling for chicas, the essentials do include true beauty in face and figure, some hard to define but "know-it-when-you see-it", overt sexuality, and a playful, flirtatious personality—and my being prepared to pay some premium for the above if / when need be.

That said, for those of you who, like Surfer500, reside in the "they all look the same in the dark" camp, you will find confirmation in Benjamin Franklin's 1745 "Advice to a Friend on Choosing a Mistress" in which he recommends preferring an older woman to a younger one. To quote:

The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement. Ben also notes that the advantages include better conversation, less risk of unwanted pregnancy, and "greater prudence in conducting an intrigue."

SavePros321
07-18-21, 20:06
Quick tip for Rappi with a credit card: be sure to select the option that they give you verify the card. They will do a trial charge on your card, and you need to go to your bank's website to verify the trial amount Rappi charges your card. Happens in seconds.

Was able to go a few days with my main card, but they cut me off the next day and told me to verify the card. Since I did not verify it at the very beginning (they were not doing this last time I was here in 2019, plus I did not remember the app asking me to) I was not able to enter the trial charge later (the app will just keep giving you an error message).

Luckily I had more than one CC and just entered the other card AND verified the card with Rappi right then and there. Again, you will need to be able to go to your bank's website and input the trial charge Rappi puts on your card. I recommend using your laptop.

As for the other card they put on hold: you cannot delete the card while you have an order in progress (I had one in and another order I was trying to get going. That's when I got cut off). Just wait about a day or so, then delete the card from Rappi. After that, you can add it again, but be sure to verify the card with Rappi immediately after adding the card.

Hope this helps folks avoid this problem in the future!

MiamiSammy
07-18-21, 22:31
They absolutely have to sell their bodies. But they won't be caught in centro or casas when there's a line of guys willing to change their lives.Bullshit. They sell their bodies because they can make a shitload of money for little effort. The girls in El Centro have little choice, but most of the prepagos and Lleras girls have other jobs, often paraprofessionals.

Sangnyc21
07-18-21, 23:26
Bullshit. They sell their bodies because they can make a shitload of money for little effort. The girls in El Centro have little choice, but most of the prepagos and Lleras girls have other jobs, often paraprofessionals.Ok let me rephrase. For their living standards they don't have to sell their bodies but most choose to.

The money is just too good to turn down.

But I disagree that most Lleras girls and upper class prepagos have other jobs. While I think some do the top notch girls stay traveling on another guys dime. When they're home they try to act like they're someone important like a social media influencer taking care of their household while it's just another way to meet the next big spender. The smart ones do invest their money in trying to make more but very few do this.

The money for the high end girls is very addicting.

But don't get it twisted at some point they need to sell their bodies to maintain their lifestyle.

RudeBwoy100
07-18-21, 23:28
They absolutely have to sell their bodies. But they won't be caught in centro or casas when there's a line of guys willing to change their lives.Some women prefer to be independent, not all of them want to be totally dependent on a guy who funds their lifestyle & most likely controls their life as well.

BTW, there's no such thing as a universal 8 and above, different parts of the world have different beauty standards.

Let's be completely honest even though it's uncomfortable, men of European descent have the most $ and women who conform to those standards will always make the most $. If a woman is slim or even skinny, tall & have blonde hair and blue eyes she will net the most money as that's what affluent causasian men desire the most so they will spend the most on such a woman but not all men think this is the pinnacle of beauty as I rarely find most "models" attractive personally.

If you're into petite, curvy women you will be able to get with many 7-8's in Medellin and find many of them in El Centro, it all depends on what you find attractive.

P. s I found the hottest Colombian women in Panama City Panama but they were more expensive than in Medellin and didn't provide as good of a service. Even then I found dime pieces for low prices; I had a Becky G look alike in Panama for $54/ HR & for $25 for 20 mins in La Gruta Azul I had a 5 ft tall woman with the one of the best bodies I've ever seen in my life, slim in all the right places and curvy in all the right places, completely natural as well but sadly both were terrible lays.

Mojo Bandit
07-18-21, 23:53
120 lb pack? GTFO. 80 lb? Sure. 120? GTFO.I said equipment which includes more than just the pack. Our packs were between 90 and 100 easy. Then you have add everything else. We were a rapid deploy Ultra light Infantry unit (they were later reorganized as Stryker units) designed to rapidly deploy to the jungle of central America because the Soviets had their fingers in so many pies down there. Operation Golden Pheasant, after I was out, was their only deployment to Central America for that purpose (then the Panama Invasion later on) . Being "Ultra Light" meant very few vehicles to carry supplies,.

https://apnews.com/article/c5fd21a52e9dc6cedecfda27757ad016

That is why I say I didn't just say pack I said equipment so for example I was an M60 gunner for a couple of years, so add the M60 Machine gun, a spare barrel (ultra light infantry had no assistant gunners) and then add the ammo and you are already up to about 40 lbs, now lets not forget starlight scope for the M60 and tripod with TO&E (pintle, traverse bar) for setting up night time defense position we had no truck mounted mortars, we did not even have weapons platoons, we had all the 60 mm mortars divided into the rifle platoons, so all that has to be split up and carried also, tube, baseplate, rounds etc, now lets throw on a 120 foot rappelling rope, throw on a few claymores, - our M / O when running team or squad size missions was to sleep under some brush in a circle with all our heads pointed in toward the center of the clock, one guy in the center on watch with all the triggers for a perimeter of claymores set up around us. We also were trained to use the claymore for a hasty ambush so everyone carried a few.

Four frag grenades, ammo for the. 45 (yes I am that old) 4 liter water bladder (because you have to stay hydrated in the jungle,) machete, Often when gearing up to march it was easier just to have two guys hold the rucksack while you slipped your arms through the straps. For in case we did get in a situation where we might have to do need to dig fighting positions an E-Tool is not always going to cut it so every other guy carried the pick-axe head and ever other guy carried the handle. Then of course you have our other "etc" stuff that each squad leader is going to split up between each person, like smoke grenades, white phosphorus grenades, a folding litter for carrying out wounded, after close to 40 years that is all I can remember (LOL) but I do not forget the weight of it all.

Osteoknot
07-18-21, 23:59
I appreciate your frank candor and that you did not try to pad you results and experiences. I believe there are more guys in your situation than we here about. My wish for you is that you feel great about your experiences in Medellin. For me, it's my Happy Place and has exceeded all my expectations. I have stopped waiting for the bubble to burst or the axe to fall because things have gone well for me for awhile now. No matter what happens I can look in the mirror without any regrets, and if I die tomorrow, I die a happy man. Now, back to you (By the way, I am sarcastic, attention whoring, asshole and I will never change). The fucking auto editor here sucks.


She takes me to the room and I tell her I'd rather skip the massage part and just make out for a bit. We start kissing a little and I can tell she's not super into it (and to be fair, if I was fucking for 8 hours a day I probably wouldn't be either).

As we're both dressing and getting ready to leave I talk to her about the splits she has with the casa. I tell her I'd be down to pay her double what they do if she'll do house calls. She said she normally doesn't do that but maybe in the future. I take her number.First off, this is not the girl to be following up with for your more warm and fuzzy repeat date back at your hotel. Don't make excuses for her performance, that's entirely counter-productive. Empathy is good, but don't show sympathy, and don't take on any chica as a reclamataion project. Plus, I bet you $100 bucks she would be a no-show.

The girl who you pick for that should have rocked your world, knocked your socks off, and made you believe you were the best fuck she had that week (LOL) even though we know they are Oscar worthy actresses. Sounds like you did not run across a girl like that, and you chose the tallest midget in the room, but IMO you are setting yourself up for more disasspointment.


To wrap this whole thing up I got questions for y'all. Do I try to hire Mel out and give it another shot? Do I try another casa / escort and see if the experience is better? Or stick with non-pros and see if I can find one that's down for something casual?

In my perfect world once or twice a week I'd have the girl over, we'd smash, watch a movie, eat some ice cream, smash again, and then I'd call her a cab home.

Is that a service I can hire for? Ha.I think a guy like you needs a mix of prepagos and non-pros. Somewhere betwixt and between you will find what you are looking for, probably when you least expect it. I read that back and it sort of sounds like a nebulous, bullshit answer, but that's the playing field when you are the kind of mongerer who wants more than a wet mudhole to fuck. I am similar, and you desrribed one of my typical dates. Sometimes we also go out. If it's end of the day then she might sleep over and we fuck again in the morning. A couple of them I can't get rid of and I have to kick them out. 80-90% of my encounters are with the same 12+ chicas. I like to always introduce a little new blood to keep thing interesting and the rest of the girls on their toes. Half of them fuck me for "free" and others I pay a flat rate no matter how long they stay. Free is in quotes because we all pay one way or another, and I would point out that the average American marriage is the most expensive way to roll, , especially after a divorce. Everything I spend in Medellin is a small fraction compared to what I would be spending in the USA.

Your dilemma, like most problems on this planet, can be solved or at least dramatically improved with two things, time and money.

I may not be the guy to listen to for advice here because I don't have any social media accounts, I have never set foot in Poblado, and I haven't been to 90% of the "spots" discussed on this board. What I don't see discussed here much and I consider the Holy Grail of building a list of go-to girls is personal referrals from the girls you already fucked and liked. Tell them they can hand out your number or even bring a girl over, whatever. Your number will get spread around faster than you realize. The start is slow, but thanks to the math of geometric expansion, a person telling a person, telling a person, the numbers quickly grow to more than you will need.

To keep it under control, always ask any chica who contacts you, from whom did they get your number? I use Whassap for all this. That's how I do 98% of my communications with Colombianas. Is Whassapp considered social media, IDK? Ask her to send a foto. After she sends face and body shot, ask for a pussy pic but don't pay for it unless she is so beautiful that it motivates you. I have never paid for fotos but in the right spot at the right I would do it. I used to exclude girls who would not send a free pussy pic, but then I got fat and happy with more great chicas than I needed, so I relaxed that rule.

To quote a fellow mongerer Orgasmico, "Everything is negotiable. Success depends on you. No one can tell you how successful you will be".

I have one question for you. Will you return?

Regnom3000
07-19-21, 01:36
I think Facebook is what you need but it takes time. Follow this link to get started. It will be worth buying the membership so others can give you more contacts to speed it up.

If you don't have time, you can go to La Isla. The price is high but it is fixed if you have sex on site. You just need to negotiate service with the girl. You can pay by credit card. You can search for words "Lleras" or "Gusto" here to find more freelancer information but the prices in these areas can vary greatly.Appreciate the tips brother. I read about both of those in these forums and Isla has actually cropped up as a suggestion from a friend who used to live here. I also think you're spot on about the paid membership, seems like a good way to get some real gems and make the most of this forum.

Paulie97
07-19-21, 01:38
When I psychoanalyze myself and this experience I think a big part of the pleasure I get from sex is knowing my partner is also having a good time, which I don't think she necessarily did.

So. To wrap this whole thing up I got questions for y'all. Do I try to hire Mel out and give it another shot? Do I try another casa / escort and see if the experience is better? Or stick with non-pros and see if I can find one that's down for something casual?

In my perfect world once or twice a week I'd have the girl over, we'd smash, watch a movie, eat some ice cream, smash again, and then I'd call her a cab home.

Is that a service I can hire for? Ha.It's pretty simple really. Invest some time in one you click with, whether it's a casa girl who gave you her Whatsapp (most will) or one you met off Facebook. The non-pro route is fine also. Good luck and thanks for the report.

GeneHickman
07-19-21, 01:48
As for the other card they put on hold: you cannot delete the card while you have an order in progress (I had one in and another order I was trying to get going. That's when I got cut off). Just wait about a day or so, then delete the card from Rappi. After that, you can add it again, but be sure to verify the card with Rappi immediately after adding the card.

Hope this helps folks avoid this problem in the future!Wish I saw this 3 days ago. I was wondering what the hell that was and eventually figured it out and successfully added my 2nd card. The other thing is it defaults you to effectivo. So if you are short on effectivo, then it drains it more! LOL.

Funny thing, I literally had just 20 mil in my room, and the order was 77 mil. Luckily my chica had 60 mil to lend me and that saved the day.

BlackThought
07-19-21, 02:05
I highly doubt you fucked a solid 9. I haven't seen any 9's in El Centro, even 8's are very hard to find. What makes them a 9 is not only the fact that they get dolled up, but also a healthy lifestyle. Healthy food, gym, good sleep, no stress, no bad habits (smoking, etc), low mileage. All of the above take a lot of effort, time and money. Yeah, eating clean is pricey. Do you know why most of them are fat? Because they eat cheap unhealthy food and they don't exercise. They are just too broke to eat clean. A true 9 will never work El Centro, because she will be in high demand and since the supply of 9's is low, her rate will go up. Guys will always pay premium for high quality, anywhere on the planet. When someone says "I fucked a solid 9 in El Centro" (and for how much? 50-70 mil cop?) I get skeptical.LOL. Yeah I find it funny when they talk about 8-9's in el centro. Then I see some of the pics they post of centro girls with no curves etc, yeah no thanks. It's also why the hottest ones go overseas for more $ cause they can. Lots of 8-10 Colombians fly to Miami for big pay day, I doubt they'd be in el centro selling their pussy for 30 k / pop LOL.

Regnom3000
07-19-21, 02:06
I appreciate your frank candor and that you did not try to pad you results and experiences. I believe there are more guys in your situation than we here about. My wish for you is that you feel great about your experiences in Medellin. For me, it's my Happy Place and has exceeded all my expectations. I have stopped waiting for the bubble to burst or the axe to fall because things have gone well for me for awhile now. No matter what happens I can look in the mirror without any regrets, and if I die tomorrow, I die a happy man. Now, back to you (By the way, I am sarcastic, attention whoring, asshole and I will never change). The fucking auto editor here sucks.

First off, this is not the girl to be following up with for your more warm and fuzzy repeat date back at your hotel. Don't make excuses for her performance, that's entirely counter-productive. Empathy is good, but don't show sympathy, and don't take on any chica as a reclamataion project. Plus, I bet you $100 bucks she would be a no-show.

The girl who you pick for that should have rocked your world, knocked your socks off, and made you believe you were the best fuck she had that week (LOL) even though we know they are Oscar worthy actresses. Sounds like you did not run across a girl like that, and you chose the tallest midget in the room, but IMO you are setting yourself up for more disasspointment.

I think a guy like you needs a mix of prepagos and non-pros. Somewhere betwixt and between you will find what you are looking for, probably when you least expect it..Damn, this resonated with me a lot man. I appreciate you dropping some gems on the kid.


Somewhere betwixt and between you will find what you are looking for, probably when you least expect it.This is a god damn diamond in the rough. Feel like I knew that in my heart of hearts but you actually articulated and put words to it.


I am similar, and you desrribed one of my typical dates. Sometimes we also go out.1000%. I'd say the best arrangements I've had are these ones. I've seen other guys mention it on here but having that rapport makes all the rest of the shit better. For me at least. But like I said, that's my style. One reason why I think this idea of hiring professionals is so appealing to me at this point at my life is because it feels clean, at least in regards to expectations and boundaries. For someone looking for company 1-2 nights a week that FWBs arrangement works well, but almost always inevitably gets a little messy.


Free is in quotes because we all pay one way or another, and I would point out that the average American marriage is the most expensive way to roll, , especially after a divorce.Facts. I think marriage can be a beautiful thing, I have some friends it works great for. Others, not so much. But like you said, we're all paying one way or another, that just manifests differently depending on the arrangement.


What I don't see discussed here much and I consider the Holy Grail of building a list of go-to girls is personal referrals from the girls you already fucked and liked. Tell them they can hand out your number or even bring a girl over, whatever.Can you elaborate on this? What's the benefit for them? Doesn't that potentially impede on their earning potential with you as a client? I never would have thought of this as a viable strategy.


I have one question for you. Will you return?Hell yeah man. I'm here for at least another 2 months, maybe more. This world is simply one that's completely new to me, so I feel like I'm building the plane while flying it.

Thanks again for the two cents hermano.

3 K.

P.S. Can you tell I just figured out how to use the quotes feature?

P. P.S. I don't think WA counts as social media, you're good LOL.

BlackThought
07-19-21, 03:20
Well I was at the scene when this happened. And I guess I'm the fool you're talking about. Lmao.

What's hilarious is just how bitter you are at girls making money (perhaps because some make more than you) and also how generously others spend. This particular guy wasn't old mid 30's and not a repulsive looking guy.

The fact is she was offered 3 million and it wasn't what she charged.

These are absolute 10000% facts.

You come on this forum with all your BS and knowledge of pros and the game.

I'm quite sure you're just a bitter person. Who the fuck are you to determine how much an individual girl is allowed to charge or make for her body.

As far as the bottom end of the monger ladder you're the proof that you're it buddy.

Your hatred and bitterness towards working girls clearly shows how you've been treated by them in the past..Well said. In life, it's always the miserable losers that worry about what others are doing LOL.

Mr Enternational
07-19-21, 04:12
Benjamin Franklin's 1745 "Advice to a Friend on Choosing a Mistress" in which he recommends preferring an older woman to a younger one. To quote:
Ben also notes that the advantages include better conversation, less risk of unwanted pregnancy, and "greater prudence in conducting an intrigue."Or Redd Foxx's summation of that: They don't yell, they don't tell, they don't swell, and they are grateful as hell.

Mr Enternational
07-19-21, 04:17
Quick tip for Rappi with a credit card: be sure to select the option that they give you verify the card. They will do a trial charge on your card, and you need to go to your bank's website to verify the trial amount Rappi charges your card. Happens in seconds.April I was using it with no problem. A couple of weeks ago it fucked up on me. It tells you to verify the amount, but if you get out of that window to check your bank, you don't get to switch back over to put the amount in. The window disappears. It also would not let me use cash. After trying to use 3 different cards that shit locked me out. I wrote them to unlock my account and never heard anything back.

Knowledge
07-19-21, 04:20
I guess I need to stock up on ice cream.


I totally agree with you, I've been looking for someone who would spend money on the higher end girls, all that casas and centro girls are low grade and their conversation it's also very basic and low, I'm hispanic and I speak spanish and after sex I usually want to talk to the girls and the street girls have nothing to say that it's worth anything, I guess you get what you pay for.

Lefeu
07-19-21, 04:29
...Hope this helps folks avoid this problem in the future!I had the same problem when I was in Medellin last. Worse, I had forgotten my iPad back home, and my passwords. So, I resorted to effectivo. I hope to fix that on my next trip.

MarquisdeSade1
07-19-21, 04:48
For sure, to each his own when it comes to mode of mongering. For me, in culling for chicas, the essentials do include true beauty in face and figure, some hard to define but "know-it-when-you see-it", overt sexuality, and a playful, flirtatious personalityand my being prepared to pay some premium for the above if / when need be.

That said, for those of you who, like Surfer500, reside in the "they all look the same in the dark" camp, you will find confirmation in Benjamin Franklin's 1745 "Advice to a Friend on Choosing a Mistress" in which he recommends preferring an older woman to a younger one. To quote:

The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement. Ben also notes that the advantages include better conversation, less risk of unwanted pregnancy, and "greater prudence in conducting an intrigue."9's and 10's as putas or non putas are extremely extremely rare anywhere in this world you may look.

In the rare event you find one, 9 times out of 10 the service will be lackluster, I have found a few and no matter who you.

Are or what you pay, you will probably be disappointed.

https://stricturism.wordpress.com/2017/05/12/a-note-on-sex-women-and-marriage-to-my-son-on-his-21st-birthday/

Mindblowing PSE supercedes illusion any day of the week.

https://humour360.com/sexy-nsfw/93-pornstars-with-and-without-make-up/

IMO most females in the world, putas non putas pornstars et al are all ugly once you remove that mask of makeup.

Most are a fraud, a bunch of make up, A $300 haircut, and too many mongers on here think she's a goddess.

JustTK
07-19-21, 05:17
Or Redd Foxx's summation of that: They don't yell, they don't tell, they don't swell, and they are grateful as hell.I like that. :

HumptyHump
07-19-21, 05:25
April I was using it with no problem. A couple of weeks ago it fucked up on me. It tells you to verify the amount, but if you get out of that window to check your bank, you don't get to switch back over to put the amount in. The window disappears. It also would not let me use cash. After trying to use 3 different cards that shit locked me out. I wrote them to unlock my account and never heard anything back.My Rappi verification code showed up a day late. So if you don't see the charge on your account right then, check back a day later. It was weird, I was able to pay with my credit card on my first order without any verification, but it wanted verification on my second order. So had to pay that in cash, until I was able to verify the next day.

HumptyHump
07-19-21, 05:30
Trip preparation.

I have been reading the forum and trying to prepare for a trip to Medellin for the last six months. I had no idea when I would have the opportunity to visit, but enjoyed reading the forum nonetheless. Created a facebook account after reading the very helpful post by jjbee on the topic, and started adding FB chicas. Within a month I had about 80 chicas on my friend list. As luck would have it, an opportunity presented for me to travel to Medellin. Started looking for a place on AirBnb. My biggest worry was ending up in a place that did not allow chicas. So made a shortlist of the places I was interested in. From my shortlist I messaged the host asking them if guests were allowed. Most were okay with guests, advising that visiting guests needed to bring ID. I picked a 3 bedroom on the fourth floor at a building in Laureles. Wanted an extra room that was only for the chicas, so my stuff would be safe in my room.

Day 1 - Saturday.

Arrived at midnight. I didn't have any trouble completing Check Mig online as some other BMs reported. There was a line at immigration, but it wasn't too bad. Was asked typical questions such as "how long are you staying and address of where you are staying". After a couple minutes, was stamped through. My friend flew in from Miami at the same time, and met him just past immigration. There is a bank of ATMs, just as you leave the secure customs area. Withdrew 400 k COP at a rate of about 3500 COP to 1 USD, on my Charles Schwab card. My friend wanted to exchange USD at the money exchange places that you run into as you leave customs. They were quoting a horrible rate - 2900 COP to $1 USD. I remember a BM had reported that he was able to get a better rate at the cambios on the second floor. So we tried that and got a rate of 3600 plus pesos. What a racket those guys are running downstairs. So guys, take the escalators upstairs and save yourselves a bunch of cash. My friend was going to leave on Sunday, so he needed to get a covid test done at the airport. Asked around and found the white tent outside the airport that does the test. Man, those guys are slow. We were the only ones there, and dude took 15 minutes to fill up a form. No wonder guys have been complaining about missing their flights while trying to get the covid test at the airport. Anyways, test was 105 k COP, and results were sent via whatsapp within 40 minutes. Our airbnb host had arranged for a private car and driver for us to get to the airbnb (90 k cop). Driver found us at the white tent and off we went.

Had a couple chicks booked for 11 am off of facebook. Sindy for my buddy and Rami for me. Shared the address with them the previous night. Day of, Sindy pulls a Houdini. Never shows. Rami shows up just on time. Rami is 19, brown skin, large natual tits, wears braces and has the nicest smile. She didn't stop smiling the entire time she was here. Great personality. Has a curious mind. Asked a lot of questions about where we were from, our culture, food, etc. She was dynamite in bed. Except anal, nothing was off the table. She let me take a bunch of pictures and videos. We were getting hungry, so we ordered lunch on Rappi. Rappi required a local Colombian number for 2 factor authentication, and since I didn't have a local number yet, Rami let me use her number with Rappi. Wrapped up the session with a great lunch and sent her on her way with her gift and 50 k extra for taxi. I know taxi doesn't cost that much, but I really enjoyed my time with her and wanted to show my appreciation.

Wanted to do some sightseeing, so took an Uber to Museo Castillo in El Poblado. Castle from 1931, built by a rich guy, turned into a museum. Grounds were quite nice. Great views of the Medellin valley. Then off to Unicentro mall to buy a sim card. Asked around and found Movistar. 20 k for a 7 day plan with 4 GB data. Good enough for me. The Exito at the Uni Centro mall is quite nice.

My friend still had not been with a girl and was leaving the following day. So we decided to hit up Spa Fantasias Energy in Laureles, as it was 10 minutes from our airbnb. Get there around 8 pm, the place closes at 9 pm. We are greeted at the door, and asked if we wanted a drink. We ask for water and wait at the small seating area for the girls. They show up one by one, do a little twirl to demonstrate their assets and tell us their name and number. There were about 10 to 12 girls, and they were all good looking. We both pick two girls with large tits. Thinking back, we should have picked the girls that were smiling at us, instead of letting the little guy pick girls with fake tits. Pay 145 k each (5 k each for the waters that we thought were complimentary), and get led upstairs to our room. Room has one bed, and a small bathroom. Massage is very perfunctory and lasts about 5 minutes. Flip, girl puts on the condom and start fucking. No kisses on the mouth, blow job with condom, quoted 100 k for oral natural which I pass, no FIV, but she allows multiple positions. She tries her best to get me to come quickly, by putting her legs together, or by trying to go faster. I fight back by spreading her legs in missionary, slowing down, and changing positions often. This tug of war goes on for about 15 minutes, and I decide to concede the battle. Opt for a hand job finish which she does extremely well. I meant to tip her, but we started talking and I completely forget. My bad. She works from 10 am until 9 pm - 11 hours a day. To be honest I felt pretty bad for her. We were out in about 25 minutes. I had a read a lot about the casas on the forum and was excited to try one. Casas are not really my thing. Girls look tired, and there are too many restrictions. Facebook girls are a much better experience.

While waiting for our Uber, we encounter a strange sight. About 10 to 15 buses decked out in flowers and ribbons come swerving down the road, blaring their horns, and blasting music. They were literally swerving from one side of the road to the other, at considerable speed, while cars and motorbikes were trying to overtake them. I don't know what the hell that was, but my friend thought it might have been a wedding procession. Does anybody know what we witnessed?

My friend leaves at noon on Sunday, so we line up Maria from facebook to meet us at 9 am on Sunday.

FatmanSlayer
07-19-21, 07:59
April I was using it with no problem. A couple of weeks ago it fucked up on me. It tells you to verify the amount, but if you get out of that window to check your bank, you don't get to switch back over to put the amount in. The window disappears. It also would not let me use cash. After trying to use 3 different cards that shit locked me out. I wrote them to unlock my account and never heard anything back.Something similar happened to me. I would press verify, the window would open but then nothing would happen. I fixed it by removing the card, re-adding the card, and reverifying. Rappi is a POS. Never worked on my first 2 trips, finally sort of working this trip.

FatmanSlayer
07-19-21, 08:04
Couple things I noticed this trip.

1. I feel like Parque Lleras is turning into Centro. Where did all the hot girls go that were here 6 months ago? It's literally just the same group of Centro rats that come over to Parque Lleras at night. I walked around for like 5 hours and found like 1 or 2 okay-ish ones. 6 Months ago, I could easily find someone I think is hot in like an hour or less.

2. Stank pussies. A lot of these girls don't seem to have great hygiene down there.

3. The electricity at my place in Poblado went out like twice in one day. Each time for like 4 hours. Sucks being on the 20th floor.

SavePros321
07-19-21, 14:01
Wish I saw this 3 days ago. I was wondering what the hell that was and eventually figured it out and successfully added my 2nd card. The other thing is it defaults you to effectivo. So if you are short on effectivo, then it drains it more! LOL.

Funny thing, I literally had just 20 mil in my room, and the order was 77 mil. Luckily my chica had 60 mil to lend me and that saved the day.Yes, thankfully I had my backup cards and keep extra pesos just in case of stuff like this. Nothing worse than having a chica over who has the munchies and your card gets declined in Rappi and you don't have enough pesos to cover the cash option, LOL! Has not happened to me yet, but I created that post in hopes of helping others avoid that situation in the future.

SavePros321
07-19-21, 14:07
April I was using it with no problem. A couple of weeks ago it fucked up on me. It tells you to verify the amount, but if you get out of that window to check your bank, you don't get to switch back over to put the amount in. The window disappears.Yes! Same thing was happening to me. That's when I decided to use another card but got the idea to just verify the other card as soon as I added it. That disappearing window thing is what tipped me off to just delete the old card (but I had an order in progress before they locked me out of that card, so I had to wait about a day or so and then was able to delete it and add it again).


After trying to use 3 different cards that shit locked me out. I wrote them to unlock my account and never heard anything back.Just go back into the app and delete all of your cards. But add them one by one after verifying the card. The Rappi trial charge shows up in your bank account in seconds.

I went back and added my previous card after deleting it (a rewards card), and as soon as I added it I verified it with Rappi before using it and haven't had any more problems since.

Turgid
07-19-21, 14:11
.... Do I try to hire Mel out and give it another shot? Do I try another casa / escort and see if the experience is better? Or stick with non-pros and see if I can find one that's down for something casual?...It seems important for you to get positive feedback from the girl. I think you should give Mel another shot. She's new to the business and girls generally warm up to a guy after the first encounter. The second should be good and the third even better.

SavePros321
07-19-21, 14:12
I had the same problem when I was in Medellin last. Worse, I had forgotten my iPad back home, and my passwords. So, I resorted to effectivo. I hope to fix that on my next trip.Cool man! Glad to see that this information was needed!

Again, I would delete all of your cards from the app and start all over. Add the card, click the option to verify it, then get the trial charge amount from your bank account and enter it into Rappi. Just don't order food in the app before verifying the card, because you won't be able to verify later (and you will get that disappearing window that Mr. E was talking about until you delete the card from the app and start over).

MiamiSammy
07-19-21, 14:38
For sure, to each his own when it comes to mode of mongering. For me, in culling for chicas, the essentials do include true beauty in face and figure, some hard to define but "know-it-when-you see-it", overt sexuality, and a playful, flirtatious personalityand my being prepared to pay some premium for the above if / when need be.

That said, for those of you who, like Surfer500, reside in the "they all look the same in the dark" camp, you will find confirmation in Benjamin Franklin's 1745 "Advice to a Friend on Choosing a Mistress" in which he recommends preferring an older woman to a younger one. To quote:

The Face first grows lank and wrinkled; then the Neck; then the Breast and Arms; the lower Parts continuing to the last as plump as ever: So that covering all above with a Basket, and regarding only what is below the Girdle, it is impossible of two Women to know an old from a young one. And as in the dark all Cats are grey, the Pleasure of corporal Enjoyment with an old Woman is at least equal, and frequently superior, every Knack being by Practice capable of Improvement. Ben also notes that the advantages include better conversation, less risk of unwanted pregnancy, and "greater prudence in conducting an intrigue."What a treat to find such a great Franklin quote!

ColombiaLover
07-19-21, 15:08
After having to cut my month-long trip in June short by 10 days, happy to be back in MDE for a short trip. I arrived yesterday. Saw my 19 year old non-pro. She's sweet and she's learning. She's a little shy and I think she wants something with me (even though I tactfully remind her that this will not happen). But she seems to save it for me, so I can't complain. Last night I had a 29 year old from Tinder over. I have had no luck with Tinder until now. She is also a non-pro. Has a job. She was a little scared to meet me, but I gave her a choice of coming to the apartment and eating domocilio or meeting at a restaurant and she wanted to come here (and try the jacuzzi). We ate. She was cool. She felt comfortable with me. We enjoyed the jacuzzi. I played it cool. I asked her if she wanted a massage. She accepted. Normal massage at first. Shoulders, neck, back. But then I moved down to her ass and thighs. Massaging everything, but never touching her pussy. That was the key. Her anticipation. The bed was soaking wet with her juice! I discovered quickly that she enjoyed my finger in her ass, which I enjoy doing. Then moved my fingers to her wet pussy. Decided to treat her to the vibrator and she loved it. Multi-orgasms. Super wet. And of course my reward was fucking her. I probably could have fucked her ass also, but I wanted to feel her wet pussy and it was good. The only thing she did not / would not do is give me a BJ. NOt sure why, but since I was not paying, I was not going to argue. Had a great session. Loved to watch her cum. Loved playing with her ass. And unlike a lot of pros, when we finished, we laid in bed together for a while just enjoying the time.

This morning I was supposed to see a pro I have seen for 6 years, Vale Garcia. Vale is my type. She is small and skinny, yet she has great tits for a small girl. Delicious pussy. Good kisser. And best of all, she works hard for your orgasm. BBBJ, BBFS. I had not seen her in a while, so set up things for this morning. It is always good to have a morning girl, since many girls only want afternoon or night. I was kind of looking forward to it, because she can always make me cum. Even though I came with two chicas yesterday. Unfortunately, she cancelled this morning. At least she gave me 2 hours noticed and offered the afternoon, but I declined since my non-pro college girl is coming and I need to be ready to give it to her. She is another great find. She is 20 now, but I've known her since she was 15 (I dated her cousin). She had no experience, but she's slowly been getting better and she loves to get eaten and to get fuck. So I prefer to same my leche for her.

Funny how the free girls always show up and never give me drama. It's always something with the paid girls. The free girls take more time and effort than the prepagos (obviously), but in the end, they have been working out much better. I have a few more prepagos on my list. Maybe tonight.

MiamiBoy1
07-19-21, 16:11
Some mongers here are needed to be reminded of a 1 to 10 scale of female attractiveness, so that they stop giving others BS about fucking solid 9's in Centro for 40 mil. One of the versions of 1-10 scale is below:

1. Has a vagina. Completely repulsive to look at to where you have to look away. Kind of like the sun. 0 redeeming features.

2. Also repulsive but you can at least look at her without cringing. Commonly seen. No redeeming features. Cannot clean up or improve w makeup much.

3. A common sight, your basic unattractive but not hideous woman. Up to 1 redeeming feature. Your def not telling your friends about this one. She can clean up but not much.

4. This is where most women you start to notice will be placed. Not good looking but far from hideous. Up to 2 redeeming features. Beer goggles make her a 7 to you. She cleans up pretty good and with good style / makeup she can look decent or at least perfectly bangable to average guys on lonely nights.

5. She has a few redeeming features, cannot compete with her good looking friends but she can still get a date. She cleans up well and can pass for pretty at the right angles in pics. Extremely common to see. Is quick to be written off by dumpy guys with "fake standards" but in reality they are lucky to even get with a girl like this on their best day.

6. The sweet friend or girl next door. She has up to 3 redeeming features and can clean up well. She will never be a beauty queen and she will always be the backup plan for the good looking guys who strike out with their hotter targets. The dream of dumpy dweebs everywhere who are grounded in reality and know this is their 10. If your hanging out with her and people mistake her for your girlfriend you are not embarrassed, she can blend in.

7. This is where the genuinely pretty and hot women start. They can clean up amazingly well, get plenty of looks on the street and are targeted by men all around her. She can be polarizing to men. Some will call her a beauty, others will call her a bit plain, its a toss up. At the right angle she's a dream, at normal angles she's just pretty. Even looks decent at her worst. At this point you start counting flaws instead of redeeming features. Up to 3 flaws, easily pointed out and 2 of them are not debateable, even if small.

8. Genuinely hot. The girl that makes you look when she walks in the room. Up to 2 flaws max, with 1 being non debateable and they are easy to spot even behind the beauty or glam. The envy of alot of women and the object of affection of all but great looking or rich guys.

*Warning. 9-10 are highly debateable. Tough to distinguish between sometimes. *.

9. Most men will never get with a 9 in their lifetime. Rarely seen outside of porn or upscale events. They only have 1 debateable flaw and you have to really look or nitpick to find it. A stunner even at her worst. Just being in the same room with her is a bit uncomfortable but you want to keep getting looks at her.

10. Perfection. Zero debateable flaws. Much like the sun, you can't look at her for more than a few seconds without turning away. Its just too nerve wracking and boner inducing. She makes rooms and situations tense due to the sexual tension she creates just by being in them.

Now, before you claim you fucked a 9, revise the scale description first. The older a monger gets, the more attractive young girls become. Fucking a girl who is 1/2 or 1/3 of your age does not mean you are fucking an 8 or a 9 - you are merely fucking a girl 1/2 or 1/3 of your age. Pussy in Colombia is so affordable and plentiful, that when an older fat insecure monger comes down there form the USA Sex prison, he is so overwhelmed that wants to fuck anything that moves and has a pussy, and any pussy becomes an 8 or 9 to him.

JustTK
07-19-21, 16:24
Some mongers here are needed to be reminded of a 1 to 10 scale of female attractiveness, so that they stop giving others BS about fucking solid 9's in Centro for 40 mil. One of the versions of 1-10 scale is below:Haha, well you made me laugh, which I guess must have been the intention. A totally ludicrous scale and a ridiculous idea to boot.

Surfer500
07-19-21, 16:34
Some mongers here are needed to be reminded of a 1 to 10 scale of female attractiveness, so that they stop giving others BS about fucking solid 9's in Centro for 40 mil. One of the versions of 1-10 scale is below:

10. Perfection. Zero debateable flaws. Much like the sun, you can't look at her for more than a few seconds without turning away. Its just too nerve wracking and boner inducing. She makes rooms and situations tense due to the sexual tension she creates just by being in them.This is probably one of the most concise and well written descriptions of how to rate women on a scale of one to ten I have ever read.

And the perfect ten you described is what gives guys that encounter them the "deer in the headlights look".

I've seen a few tens, which is almost like winning the lottery when you actually encounter one, and have had the deer in the headlight look when I did.

Mojo Bandit
07-19-21, 16:52
In my perfect world once or twice a week I'd have the girl over, we'd smash, watch a movie, eat some ice cream, smash again, and then I'd call her a cab home.

Is that a service I can hire for? Ha.

Appreciate the gems y'all have dropped in here, and if you guys got any questions I'm happy to elaborate on any or all of it.

Over and out - 3 K.You definitely need a membership so you can get PMs. I see you have been getting some good advice and I am really just agreeing with what others have said. If you substitute the ice cream with delivery food from Rappi and this is my experience every time. Minus the movie and add listening to music and dancing etc. I have only experienced these kinds of appointments with FB chicas though, I have never tried building a rapport with casa or strip club chicas but if the other members say it can be done I am sure it can. Anyway if you get a membership, send me a PM and I can better help you out.

World Travel 69
07-19-21, 17:05
Curfew.

I heard that all of Colombia will have Curfew starting tonight.

The latest this morning from Jesus: "Hello, good morning, today.

Monday everything is normal, there are many police in the streets.

Many cities on alert, tomorrow there will be marches and protests.

There is a curfew and alcohol consumption is prohibited. ".

Contact Jesus, he will let you know what's going on, our man in the streets.

He is in Cali, WhatsApp: 57-323-586-6627.

Beobeo
07-19-21, 17:07
Haha, well you made me laugh, which I guess must have been the intention. A totally ludicrous scale and a ridiculous idea to boot.He stated that this is one version. He should have said that's his version and I agree with it. Those movie stars & Victoria secret runway models (not the recent one) has to be somewhere on the scale. I would say 9-10 for them. The chance to stick your meat into a 9-10 should be an opportunity of a lifetime.

You can feel free to post your scale, I'm sure most of our scale 1-10 are different. I attached someone that I think is an 8 in picture but 7 IRL. Feel free to post your examples.

I walked Centro many many times but I have never seen someone like her or better. I mostly see 5-6, if they clean up, put on decent clothes and make up, they can be a 7 at most. Clearly, we all use very different scale.

John Clayton
07-19-21, 17:32
...I attached someone that I think is an 8 in picture but 7 IRL...If you rate her an 8, how would she rate you? (I would probably rate me as 2 or 3).

Smoothy
07-19-21, 17:33
The older a monger gets, the more attractive young girls become.Well, I will say that the older I get, the more willing I am to accept lower on the 1-10 chart, but the rating chart remains the same.

I love your 1-10 rating scale, I think it's quite accurate.

Smoothy
07-19-21, 17:40
I attached someone that I think is an 8 in picture but 7 IRL. Feel free to post your examples.Pretty girl, and I would definitely do her. Judging from those pics and the filters in the 3rd pic, I'd probably guess she was a 6. But since you have seen her naked, I will accept that 7 rating you gave her. We all have differences in our ratings, but I do think Miamiboy's post is pretty damn accurate. Then again, I have rated girls high that other guys thought were dogs, and vice versa. As long as the girl is attractive enough to get me excited and she is good in bed, I can't complain. I've been with girls who were 9's who were absolute crap in bed. Give me a 6 or 7 that's good in bed over that any day. I don't think I've ever been with a 10. I've only seen a few 10's in my entire life in person and none of them were available to me.

Beobeo
07-19-21, 17:50
If you rate her an 8, how would she rate you? (I would probably rate me as 2 or 3).I don't she rate us on the same scale, probably 200 mil, 300 mil, 400 mil. I think that how she would rate us.


Pretty girl, and I would definitely do her. Judging from those pics and the filters in the 3rd pic, I'd probably guess she was a 6.I agree you could argue she's a 6-7, I was being generous. And I also agree I take a 6-7 girl but good attitude, good in bed over an 8 with bad attitude any day. I'll put up with 9-10, how many chances do you get in your life to put your meat in a 9-10 even with bad attitude. It's something to remember or lessons that need to be learn.

MarquisdeSade1
07-19-21, 17:55
He stated that this is one version. He should have said that's his version and I agree with it. Those movie stars & Victoria secret runway models (not the recent one) has to be somewhere on the scale. I would say 9-10 for them. The chance to stick your meat into a 9-10 should be an opportunity of a lifetime.

You can feel free to post your scale, I'm sure most of our scale 1-10 are different. I attached someone that I think is an 8 in picture but 7 IRL. Feel free to post your examples.

I walked Centro many many times but I have never seen someone like her or better. I mostly see 5-6, if they clean up, put on decent clothes and make up, they can be a 7 at most. Clearly, we all use very different scale.Emily Willis, solid 9.

https://biographygist.com/emily-willis/

Mr Enternational
07-19-21, 18:25
I've been with girls who were 9's who were absolute crap in bed. Give me a 6 or 7 that's good in bed over that any day.I do not understand when guys say this as if no 9's are great in bed or that all 6's and 7's are good in bed. Why not say give me the 9 that is great in bed over the 6 that is horrible in bed? But given this statement it is like you are asserting that you have never been with a 6 or 7 that is absolute crap in bed.

Smoothy
07-19-21, 18:29
I do not understand when guys say this as if no 9's are great in bed or that all 6's and 7's are good in bed. Why not say give me the 9 that is great in bed over the 6 that is horrible in bed? But given this statement it is like you are asserting that you have never been with a 6 or 7 that is absolute crap in bed.What's not to understand? Nobody said they wouldn't want a 9 that's great in bed. But I would prefer a 6 that's good in bed over a 9 that sucks in bed. Yes, there are 9's that are also good in bed, that was just used as a comparison to put more emphasis on sex than looks. As long as they get me excited so I can get it up, it's good. Of course anyone in the world would rather have a 9 that's good in bed, I thought that went without saying. I guess not.

John Clayton
07-19-21, 18:30
...I agree you could argue she's a 6-7, I was being generous...You misread me! On my scale she would be 11!

Osteoknot
07-19-21, 18:30
I fired it off fairly quickly there may be some inconsistencies. Have fun with it. I wrote it for entertainment purposes.

You need an and =50. That means you need to have fucked 50 girls or more in your life, prepago or not, or your sample size is not large enough to be significant.

The chicas or girls have been divided into two broad categories. The first Group are girls who were paid directly for sexual services rendered (Pay for Play or P4P). The amount paid is irrelevant.

The second group, "Regular" Girls, are the girls you fucked based on your wits, interpersonal skills, and "game," including marriage, without any direct payment at the time. Granted, we all pay one way or another.

We are going by number of females, not number of times you fucked, so if you married your high school sweetheart then fucked her twice a day for the next 15 years, that counts as a big fat ONE.

There are seven Groups, and everyone falls into one of them.

All the following ratios are listed as P4 P girls: Regular Girls. Group 1 is guys fuck almost all Regular Girls. Group 7 is the opposite, those guys forgot what it's like to be with a Regular Girl.

Group 1. P4P to Regular Girls at 1:10 or less. In other words, guys in this Group have bedded ten times more Regular Girls for free than P4 P girls. Or more. He is such a super stud, that there is no reason he would be reading this. These guys rarely think about P4 P, regular girls flock to them. Guys in this Group often have money, but they don't need it. This category is usually occupied by movie stars and football quarterbacks. The rare girl he might pay for sex will often circle back around and do it for free. Guys in this Group are not found on mongering Web sites.

Group 2. P4 P: Regular Girls near 1:5. This guy dabbles in P4 P for convenience or out of boredom. But Regular Girls are still so easy, that after each P4 P he is often left with, "Why bother?" he likes his lifestyle and the women in his life without any P4P, but he is sympathetic of the P4 P lifestyle, especially for others who find it a necessity. Appearances and a "normal" lifestyle still matter to him. Guys in the first four Groups care if the woman gets pleasure from the encounter, or not.

Group 3. P4 P: Regular Girls near 1:2. These are usually happy semi-mongers who occupy a sweet spot. Lots of regular girls, maybe earlier in life, but appreciate the value and simplicity of a straightforward P4 P. The main reason he still sticks with so many regulars girls is the quality of the lineup. After this category, conversion of a P4P girl to a regular girl who will fuck for free, becomes exceedingly rare. This guy still cares if the girls enjoys their sex with him, but it's not a high priority.

Group 4. P4P to Regular Girls closer to 1:1, is about as "normal" as a mongerer can get, whatever that means. He knows how to bed the Regular Girls and welcomes the challenge. But he loves the thrill and the newness of P4 P's. Often has a kink or itch that needs to be scratched by a P4 P. Depends on his mood and the phase of the moon which category of girl he will be fucking next.

Group 5. P4P: Regular Girls near 2:1. He has chosen the Dark Side but can still see the light. Sometimes he questions his own choices, especially after the dirty deed is done, but overall is without regrets. Generally a happy group of mongers. Prefers and enjoys the mongering lifestyle over Regular Girls, but routinely takes the high road to prove to himself that he's still got game. Can still maintain normal appearances and cares how he presents himself.

Group 6. P4P: Regular Girls near 5:1 he is a full-fledged monger with no regrets. His pattern is the well-traveled path of least resistance, for his own personal satisfaction. He is the proverbial blind squirrel who gets his nut off by chance once in a while with a regular girl, if the planets align, but he is happy and content on a steady diet of P4P. This category is mostly a transition category to the next level, below. If the girl gets off, it's due to her own efforts and not because he tried or cared.

Group 7. P4P to Regular Girls at 10:1 or greater. Let's face it, without P4 P, this Group is not getting laid. Adept at mongering. Serious lack or loss of interpersonal skills make the mongering lifestyle a necessity if he is going to have sex. After 30 or 40 consecutive P4 P girls, social skills with Regular Girls got auto-eradicated, if they ever existed in the first place. These guys usually have no regrets, because they have no choice. Often with little or no concern about personal appearance. Getting off and "shooting loads" is their end game, and the female's level of enjoyment is irrelevant. The majority of on line users of mongering blogs, boards, and Web sites are in the Group.

Ostee Out.

Shawn6430
07-19-21, 18:31
So I will be taking my second trip back to Medellin in a couple weeks. I stayed at Hotel Medellin on my last visit, this time I want to go a bit cheaper. Can someone point me in the direction of a couple hotels that allows guests, I'm also looking into AirB&b as an option. I'll be there for 10 days and would hate to pay hotel Medellin 10 days lodging.

Smoothy
07-19-21, 18:34
(I would probably rate me as 2 or 3)."2. Also repulsive but you can at least look at her without cringing. Commonly seen. No redeeming features. Cannot clean up or improve w makeup much.

3. A common sight, your basic unattractive but not hideous woman. Up to 1 redeeming feature. Your def not telling your friends about this one. She can clean up but not much."

Maybe try makeup. That seems to help.

Sangnyc21
07-19-21, 18:35
Some mongers here are needed to be reminded of a 1 to 10 scale of female attractiveness, so that they stop giving others BS about fucking solid 9's in Centro for 40 mil. One of the versions of 1-10 scale is below:

1. Has a vagina. Completely repulsive to look at to where you have to look away. Kind of like the sun. 0 redeeming features.

2. Also repulsive but you can at least look at her without cringing. Commonly seen. No redeeming features. Cannot clean up or improve w makeup much.

3. A common sight, your basic unattractive but not hideous woman. Up to 1 redeeming feature. Your def not telling your friends about this one. She can clean up but not much.

4. This is where most women you start to notice will be placed. Not good looking but far from hideous. Up to 2 redeeming features. Beer goggles make her a 7 to you. She cleans up pretty good and with good style / makeup she can look decent or at least perfectly bangable to average guys on lonely nights.

5. She has a few redeeming features, cannot compete with her good looking friends but she can still get a date. She cleans up well and can pass for pretty at the right angles in pics. Extremely common to see. Is quick to be written off by dumpy guys with "fake standards" but in reality they are lucky to even get with a girl like this on their best day.The last part is very accurate. If a person is use to banging 4-5's his whole life then a 6-7 will look like an 8-9.

I think anything past an 8 is debatable and character and personality becomes a factor to go from 8 to a 9. Once you're on the elite level it doesn't matter some will think you're a 10.

John Clayton
07-19-21, 18:51
The last part is very accurate. If a person is use to banging 4-5's his whole life then a 6-7 will look like an 8-9.

I think anything past an 8 is debatable and character and personality becomes a factor to go from 8 to a 9. Once you're on the elite level it doesn't matter some will think you're a 10.

How would a Margot Robbie or Gal Gadot rate on this scale?

Smoothy
07-19-21, 18:57
9's and 10's as putas or non putas are extremely extremely rare anywhere in this world you may look.

In the rare event you find one, 9 times out of 10 the service will be lackluster, I have found a few.I don't think anyone would argue that.

Your inbox is full by the way.

ABizzle
07-19-21, 19:07
Lets get straight to it, how much do you think it would cost for me to eat out / rappi 2 meals a day for a month? I've guesstimated it for about 620 USD, but I need to hear your guys opinion on this figure and your recommendations.

Smoothy
07-19-21, 19:10
You misread me! On my scale she would be 11!And she is worth 110% effort to get her!

Osteoknot
07-19-21, 19:23
Damn, this resonated with me a lot man. I appreciate you dropping some gems on the kid.That was astute of you to see personal referrals as a slippery slope, but the proof is in the pudding. Two thirds of the girls in my line up were brought to me by the other one third.

Usually not even using Whassap but delivered on a silver tray. How the fuck can you beat that? You have to discriminate and use some people skills. Relatives of girls you fucked can work out great. I have one set of sisters and one set of cousins in my line up. And the sister and cousin are not prepago, they are regular girls, by that I mean I pay them, but they are not selling their wet holes on the open market when I am not fucking them. At least not on a steady basis. Call me delusional but I read people better than average.

But this is why the wet mudhole mongers probably have it better off than us, because "he is happiest who is contented with least. " But I know myself, and that's not me. I am more of the, "you get out of it what you put into it" kind of monger.

I am super busy at the moment. I'll try to get a post out while you are still around about using a personal referral network to build a stable of dream chicas. But, "tryin' is lying' jajajaja, Ostee Out.

Sangnyc21
07-19-21, 19:55
How would a Margot Robbie or Gal Gadot rate on this scale?I get where you're going with that.

Some guys prefer flacas over voluptuous. Some guys want borderline fat and call it just right.

All tastes are different. But a pretty face is a pretty face.

For me the way a woman handles herself is just as important as her looks.

We can find a fuckable body and face anywhere in medellin.

Paying makes it easier for them to leave where others have no choice but to pay to get pussy.

But to your question while Robbie and Gadot aren't my type I can certainly understand someone who would rate them very high.

Mojo Bandit
07-19-21, 20:32
Just a heads up for people who are in Medellin and were not there during the protests before. When these crowds gather it can be a bad ideal to get near them. There have been members who posted during the protests in Laureles that it was like walking into a warzone, they burned down a bank and at least one YouTuber got cornered by protestors and smacked around for shooting and it might have gotten worse but some Colombians who knew who he was intervened.

The mayor put out a warning about some "chatter" that extremist groups were planning on trying to use the event to start some violence and I read one article that said they may try to use explosives.

https://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/medellin/antioquia-advierten-infiltraciones-para-marchas-del-20-de-julio-602556

The other thing is that if the shit does hit the fan and they call the police from around the city for back-up anyone who was paying attention knows that the area around Botero Plaza can get a little mayhem going on if the the police vacate the place. So keep your head on a swivel. This is what it can be like with now police presence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrFjiMtVxMU

The only specific information I have seen about the location of tomorrows protest in Medellin is that a March will start at the Teatro Pablo Toband Uribe Carrera 40 #51-24, Medelland, Antioquia which is about a 15 minute walk W / SW of Botero Plaza.

MiamiSammy
07-19-21, 20:58
How would a Margot Robbie or Gal Gadot rate on this scale?Oh, probably a 7 and 6 respectively, like anywhere else in the world.

MiamiSammy
07-19-21, 21:03
He stated that this is one version. He should have said that's his version and I agree with it. Those movie stars & Victoria secret runway models (not the recent one) has to be somewhere on the scale. I would say 9-10 for them. The chance to stick your meat into a 9-10 should be an opportunity of a lifetime.

You can feel free to post your scale, I'm sure most of our scale 1-10 are different. I attached someone that I think is an 8 in picture but 7 IRL. Feel free to post your examples.

I walked Centro many many times but I have never seen someone like her or better. I mostly see 5-6, if they clean up, put on decent clothes and make up, they can be a 7 at most. Clearly, we all use very different scale.I don't think you'll find any 8 or better in El Centro- at least I've never seen one. I've seen a some 7. 5's, quite a few 5-6's, and more 3-4's than I care to remember. 8's pretty much rule the prepago pages, with a few 9's and an occasional 10. For me a 10 has to be natural- fake tits can be a 9. 5, but never a ten.

Nounce
07-19-21, 21:37
I don't think you'll find any 8 or better in El Centro- at least I've never seen one. Maybe this is why.



You ever notice a new girl whose drop dead gorgeous comes on the scene? She's never there too long. Someone grabs her up.

Just Incognito
07-19-21, 22:05
He stated that this is one version. He should have said that's his version and I agree with it. Those movie stars & Victoria secret runway models (not the recent one) has to be somewhere on the scale. I would say 9-10 for them. The chance to stick your meat into a 9-10 should be an opportunity of a lifetime.

You can feel free to post your scale, I'm sure most of our scale 1-10 are different. I attached someone that I think is an 8 in picture but 7 IRL. Feel free to post your examples.She's maybe a 6-6.5 to me. Nothing more at all. One of those photos makes me thing she's a 5.

We all have different scales. I like fit / skinny and healthy looking. No fake eyebrows and doesn't need to much makeup.

Gal Gadot: she's a solid 9 (before she had kids).

There was 1 girl I had in Medellin that. Would have called a true 10. Her name was Saray. I had fun with her a couple of times- for 2-3 hours each time. Then, I left for 6 months and when I returned she wanted 1. 2 million Kcop to stay the whole night with me. And I deleted her for ego and over pricing. In hindsight. Might have been worth paying it--she was that hot and the service was really good. But 1.2 million kcop for a night is ridiculous and I am not desperate. LOL.

Sangnyc21
07-19-21, 22:06
Maybe this is why.Agreed. But this usually happens with FB girls or club girls.

My opinion is this.

If a girl is hot, she knows she's hot. Family members, friends, guys all remind her how hot she is everyday. They know their worth and I don't see girls like this going to centro to accept 40 k for a fuck.

But it really just comes down to each and everyone's individual experience.

Who cares what others think. Get your rocks off and spend what you can afford to spend.

My complaint on this board is usually the misinformation.

Or how guys brag they pay less than the next guy and got so much better service.

That's definitely BS.

While you can pay less and get the same service if you're paying more based on where you met her etc all that means is that comfort level wasn't there for the girl.

What a lot of guys here don't understand is these girls aren't naive to what's going on in the world. The smart ones know how to make 10 million plus a month easy.

And those are girls you'll never see in Centro or walking the streets.

And the guys here who refuse to believe that or think it's not true are clearly misguided about the higher end of this hobby.

It's just like anything in this world. There's different levels to this even from the girls side of the hustle.

I think in Centro what happens is there's so many ugly girls that a 6 surrounded by 3's can look like an 8.

JustTK
07-19-21, 22:09
He stated that this is one version. He should have said that's his version and I agree with it. Those movie stars & Victoria secret runway models (not the recent one) has to be somewhere on the scale. I would say 9-10 for them.
Clearly, we all use very different scale.Yes, quite right. That's just it. A flaw to one person is not noticeable to the next person. Not only do we use different scales, but to judge is intensely subjective too.

2 things stand out to me -.

1. if you have a scale of 1-10, why allocate 2 of those possible 10 categories to people that only exist in fantasies? Well, ok, maybe not quite that far. But ridiculously high standard that next to no one qualifies? Total waste of a category.

2. why focus on looks? Its entirely subjective and what purpose does it serve? I prefer to rate girls on the experience of encounter. I don't have a scale. I just have memories. This one was great, that one was a waste of time. That's all I need to know. I really don't need to know what other people think of the looks of a girl. Its totally pointless due to subjectivity, and a waste of time bcos it tells me nothing of the experience. Having a great time is what counts and how other people rate their looks tells me nothing about that.

Beobeo
07-19-21, 23:01
I think in Centro what happens is there's so many ugly girls that a 6 surrounded by 3's can look like an 8.Hahaha truth but I think it can jump to a 7, and not an 8.

Beobeo
07-19-21, 23:07
Yes, quite right. That's just it. A flaw to one person is not noticeable to the next person. Not only do we use different scales, but to judge is intensely subjective too.

2 things stand out to me -.

1. if you have a scale of 1-10, why allocate 2 of those possible 10 categories to people that only exist in fantasies? Well, ok, maybe not quite that far. But ridiculously high standard that next to no one qualifies? Total waste of a category.

2. why focus on looks? Its entirely subjective and what purpose does it serve? I prefer to rate girls on the experience of encounter. I don't have a scale. I just have memories. This one was great, that one was a waste of time. That's all I need to know. I really don't need to know what other people think of the looks of a girl. Its totally pointless due to subjectivity, and a waste of time bcos it tells me nothing of the experience. Having a great time is what counts and how other people rate their looks tells me nothing about that.I judge by the looks! Just like they judge us by our wallet! The attitude can move +/-1 on the scale.

I think it's fair because the 1-2, I wouldn't bother and the 9-10 I couldn't reach unless I want to throw money around like crazy. I love 6-8, and if they have good attitude. They are on rotation. I walked out of New Life a few times when they have like 3-5.

MarquisdeSade1
07-20-21, 01:49
I don't think anyone would argue that.

Your inbox is full by the way.I think generally speaking very hot women have lots of options in this world, hooking is at the very very low end of them.

(most can find a rich dood without even trying no matter how poor their country).

So if a very hot chick starts hooking, she probably has mental illness issues, substance abuse issues, severe personality disorders etc.

Or even all of the above, so when you get a session, many times you will regret it, if not after the fact, even during the session.

MarquisdeSade1
07-20-21, 02:11
The last part is very accurate. If a person is use to banging 4-5's his whole life then a 6-7 will look like an 8-9.

I think anything past an 8 is debatable and character and personality becomes a factor to go from 8 to a 9. Once you're on the elite level it doesn't matter some will think you're a 10.Sounds like sweet lemons / sour grapes.

Show us one of your mythical 10's.

Regnom3000
07-20-21, 02:18
You definitely need a membership so you can get PMs. I see you have been getting some good advice and I am really just agreeing with what others have said. If you substitute the ice cream with delivery food from Rappi and this is my experience every time. Minus the movie and add listening to music and dancing etc. I have only experienced these kinds of appointments with FB chicas though, I have never tried building a rapport with casa or strip club chicas but if the other members say it can be done I am sure it can. Anyway if you get a membership, send me a PM and I can better help you out.Appreciate that Mojo. That gives me hope, maybe I'm just looking in the wrong spot. But rappi and dancing is my type of night, feel like maybe FB is then my new motion.

And will absolutely buy a membership, feel like it's well worth it. Just have to setup my coinbase account and I'll make it happen. Thanks for the offer.

Regnom3000
07-20-21, 02:25
That was astute of you to see personal referrals as a slippery slope, but the proof is in the pudding. Two thirds of the girls in my line up were brought to me by the other one third.

Usually not even using Whassap but delivered on a silver tray. How the fuck can you beat that? You have to discriminate and use some people skills. Relatives of girls you fucked can work out great. I have one set of sisters and one set of cousins in my line up. And the sister and cousin are not prepago, they are regular girls, by that I mean I pay them, but they are not selling their wet holes on the open market when I am not fucking them. At least not on a steady basis. Call me delusional but I read people better than average.

But this is why the wet mudhole mongers probably have it better off than us, because "he is happiest who is contented with least. " But I know myself, and that's not me. I am more of the, "you get out of it what you put into it" kind of monger.

I am super busy at the moment. I'll try to get a post out while you are still around about using a personal referral network to build a stable of dream chicas. But, "tryin' is lying' jajajaja, Ostee Out.Listen as a guy who's into business that model just didn't make sense to me. But I'm sure there's a method to madness jaja.

And interesting you said that about understanding human behavior. Maybe (see: definitely) I'm delusional as well, but I'd say I'm decent at reading folks and emotions. Which (purely speculating here) maybe that's why I relate to your style of mongering.

Either way, no tengo prisa hermano. But when / if you do put that guide together I'd definitely be interested in the read.

Osteoknot
07-20-21, 02:32
So I will be taking my second trip back to Medellin in a couple weeks. I stayed at Hotel Medellin on my last visit, this time I want to go a bit cheaper. Can someone point me in the direction of a couple hotels that allows guests, I'm also looking into AirB&b as an option. I'll be there for 10 days and would hate to pay hotel Medellin 10 days lodging.If you want more info search my posts for Ayenda.

Osteoknot
07-20-21, 02:41
The sweet spot for all this ranking business is if you think she's an 8 or 9 and everyone else sees her as a 4 or 5. Less competition for her attention, jajaja. Not a realistic scenario other than if I get to a know a girl and I genuinely like her, she starts to look better.

Osteoknot
07-20-21, 03:25
Lets get straight to it, how much do you think it would cost for me to eat out / rappi 2 meals a day for a month? I've guesstimated it for about 620 USD, but I need to hear your guys opinion on this figure and your recommendations.The fast food brand names you will recognize in Colombia cost 20-20% more than back in the states, it's like a status symbol for Colombians to eat. If you are with a girl, and you suggest Rappi, she going to go straight for the Burger King or KFC and you're going to get some sticker shock. The rest of the food is cheaper.

The cheapest way to eat good food is street food. Unlike in the United States and like in Thailand, the street vendors take a lot of pride in their wares and there are healthy choices and a lot of variety. I have never gotten sick from eating Colombian street food. Rappi is convenient. Your girl will also have the most expensive Rappi menu items memorized and she will order enough food to feed her kid and mom at home. Have fun.

LoveItHere69
07-20-21, 05:17
I found your Queen.

Some would rate this a zero and others a solid ten because so unique and can not wait to suck on such a treat. Myself I could not care less for or against. But this foot comes from a girl with a 9 face, 9 body, 9 attitude. Been with this Centro girl 3 times. My grading system is based on thin, big boobs, coke bottle shape body. Examples: Playboy bunnies in the 1980's or Raquel Welch.

If you rate girls you need to list important features and list examples so we can see through your eyes. Such as my ex-buddy's dream girls were a girls that resembled skeletons. Next preference was short. He had some that were so damn ugly and some looked like boys. Face and boobs did not matter to him.

Rextor
07-20-21, 05:24
Lets get straight to it, how much do you think it would cost for me to eat out / rappi 2 meals a day for a month? I've guesstimated it for about 620 USD, but I need to hear your guys opinion on this figure and your recommendations.That sounds like it's in the ballpark. 40 k per meal = 11 USD, X 30 X 2 = 660 USD. Can definitely get for less than 40 k though. You can easily bring it down to maybe 400-500 per month if you wanted to.

Nounce
07-20-21, 06:14
Lets get straight to it, how much do you think it would cost for me to eat out / rappi 2 meals a day for a month? I've guesstimated it for about 620 USD, but I need to hear your guys opinion on this figure and your recommendations.The price range is wide. Assuming you are eating near El Centro, I can tell you how low it can go before the pandemic. One time I paid less than 60 mil for 5 people for lunch in a restaurant inside the Gutenberg building. You can get street food for around 5 mil. The kind that they have several pots with various choices including rice, noodle, meat, bean, fish, salad, drink. It is around 10 mil to get something similar in a local restaurant in El Centro. Walk to Minorista and you can get Lechon or Mondongo with rice, drink for 4 or 5 mil depending on size, fresh orange juice is 1 or 2 mil, half avacado from fruit vendor to go with your soup is 500 COP.

As for taste, the well known dishes like Mondongo and Lechon are not as good as the more expensive and well known restaurants but I think other street food that is similar to home cooking is very good and you can't really get those in the restaurant.

TheBMan
07-20-21, 12:01
There doesn't seem to be much talk of these websites as options, is there a reason besides $$.

Turgid
07-20-21, 14:39
...You ever notice a new girl whose drop dead gorgeous comes on the scene? She's never there too long. Someone grabs her up. Whether it's a gringo BF or someone teaches her to make more $$ That's just how it goes.Happened to me about 13 years ago at a casa. Met a 9 who some would most likely call a 10 who I'd not seen before. Good 1 hour session. When I got back to my hotel kicked myself for not having gotten her details. Never saw her again.

MiamiSammy
07-20-21, 15:42
Happened to me about 13 years ago at a casa. Met a 9 who some would most likely call a 10 who I'd not seen before. Good 1 hour session. When I got back to my hotel kicked myself for not having gotten her details. Never saw her again.This surprises anyone?

MiamiSammy
07-20-21, 15:47
Lets get straight to it, how much do you think it would cost for me to eat out / rappi 2 meals a day for a month? I've guesstimated it for about 620 USD, but I need to hear your guys opinion on this figure and your recommendations.You're not giving enough information. Can you eat for $660/ mo? Sure. You can eat the healthiest diet imaginable, just buying fresh fruit and veggies from the market for almost nothing. You can also eat street food really cheaply. Fortunately, Medellin has a full range of options as well. It also has restaurants that would eat up your $660 in just a few days. What are your eating habits? Are you a foodie? How do you feel about fried chicken and other fried stuff? While it's no longer there, there was a vegetarian restaurant run by the Hare Krisnas at the end of Botero Plaza across from the old church that served an entire meal for about $1.75. I'm not a vegetarian, but it was a really good, filling meal. I'd be surprised if they didn't relocate somewhere- anyone know if they still exist?

MarquisdeSade1
07-20-21, 15:52
I found your Queen.

Some would rate this a zero and others a solid ten because so unique and can not wait to suck on such a treat. Myself I could not care less for or against. But this foot comes from a girl with a 9 face, 9 body, 9 attitude. Been with this Centro girl 3 times. My grading system is based on thin, big boobs, coke bottle shape body. Examples: Playboy bunnies in the 1980's or Raquel Welch.

If you rate girls you need to list important features and list examples so we can see through your eyes. Such as my ex-buddy's dream girls were a girls that resembled skeletons. Next preference was short. He had some that were so damn ugly and some looked like boys. Face and boobs did not matter to him.To be very hot IMO at the very least.

She must have a very low BMI.

Zero tattoos.

Zero implants / surgeries.

Zero kids.

Zero makeup.

18-22 yo.

And most importantly, all 4 limbs intact.

MiamiSammy
07-20-21, 15:52
The fast food brand names you will recognize in Colombia cost 20-20% more than back in the states, it's like a status symbol for Colombians to eat. If you are with a girl, and you suggest Rappi, she going to go straight for the Burger King or KFC and you're going to get some sticker shock. The rest of the food is cheaper.

The cheapest way to eat good food is street food. Unlike in the United States and like in Thailand, the street vendors take a lot of pride in their wares and there are healthy choices and a lot of variety. I have never gotten sick from eating Colombian street food. Rappi is convenient. Your girl will also have the most expensive Rappi menu items memorized and she will order enough food to feed her kid and mom at home. Have fun.Bottom line- go where the locals go. If there are people standing around waiting for their food, it's a good bet the food is good and fresh. If you see those little white sausages about the size of your big toe (salchichas blanca), go for it. Right now your USD will go further than any time in the six years I've been traveling to Colombia.

MiamiSammy
07-20-21, 15:54
There doesn't seem to be much talk of these websites as options, is there a reason besides $$.I don't like Millerticos, but have had good luck with Photoprepagos. You can also check out Locanto, which is the local Craigslist.

LoveItHere69
07-20-21, 16:05
I like eating at mid-class restaurant Carbon why Sabor which is 2 blocks down from the Centro church. Twice I have been there half an hour and the first customer after opening. Their condiments are already out. That is because they were never put in the refrigerator during the night. Can not prove but strong belief. Most the food is cooked on the spot whether it be street or restaurant food. Problem is the condiments. They may or may not refrigerate at night. But for sure they sit out all day long. High probability your food sickness is from that.

Surfer500
07-20-21, 16:08
This last week I experienced something I hadn't experienced in quite a while. I am typically not out in "public" with my Chicas being either in El Centro, or at my place. However I met one of my Chicas last week at a beachfront tourist hotel in Cartagena. She arrived dressed to the nines, Gucci bag, designer sunglasses, gold jewelry, all phony knock off shit of course and garnered some attention being with an old fart 40 years older than her. The guy at the front desk was very cool I had been talking to him for about thirty minutes before she arrived and he approved!

However there were some other interesting "looks" from people, and who knows what some of these people were thinking seeing this older fart with a pretty slim morena in tow and playing in the pool together, dining out, and having fun. I noticed one older couple close to my age, and the wife seemed to give me a disapproving glare, and the husband, well I'm not sure what he was thinking, may of been clueless and or envious, god forbid if he had been a fly on the wall in the room observing the activities taking place. All in all though, most people could of cared less, but I did experience some unwanted attention a few times.

To put this in perspective, I live in a Southern California beach town, and if I were seen in tow with this Chica walking on Main street, on the pier, or anywhere around town, all eye's would be on me like fly's on shit! Every single woman walking the street would be giving me the stink eye. As far as the men, most of them would be totally clueless with the exception of a few, and somebody might even call the police.

What I experienced reminded me that Colombia is like an alternative universe for me, and hard to match elsewhere in the world at the moment.

I'm sure some other board members here have had some "walk of shame" experiences, maybe more so in other Countries versus Colombia.

MiamiSammy
07-20-21, 16:22
Yes, quite right. That's just it. A flaw to one person is not noticeable to the next person. Not only do we use different scales, but to judge is intensely subjective too.

2 things stand out to me -.

1. if you have a scale of 1-10, why allocate 2 of those possible 10 categories to people that only exist in fantasies? Well, ok, maybe not quite that far. But ridiculously high standard that next to no one qualifies? Total waste of a category.

2. why focus on looks? Its entirely subjective and what purpose does it serve? I prefer to rate girls on the experience of encounter. I don't have a scale. I just have memories. This one was great, that one was a waste of time. That's all I need to know. I really don't need to know what other people think of the looks of a girl. Its totally pointless due to subjectivity, and a waste of time bcos it tells me nothing of the experience. Having a great time is what counts and how other people rate their looks tells me nothing about that.What part of this don't you understand? Attraction is completely subjective, as the guy posting pics of deformed feet on this page clearly shows. The guy is spending his hard earned bucks to come to Colombia and you're going to set him straight on what's what? If experience is the lynchpin for you, great. Older women need work, too. Yes, having a good time is what counts. Half the joy is in the hunt. If hunting for 10's and occasionally finding one amongst the pleatora of 8's and 9's in Medellin gives him joy, power to him! Advice is one thing- critiquing a guy's attractions and fantasies goes well beyond the pale.

Smoothy
07-20-21, 16:46
This last week I experienced something I hadn't experienced in quite a while. I am typically not out in "public" with my Chicas being either in El Centro, or at my place. However I met one of my Chicas last week at a beachfront tourist hotel in Cartagena. She arrived dressed to the nines, Gucci bag, designer sunglasses, gold jewelry, all phony knock off shit of course and garnered some attention being with an old fart 40 years older than her. The guy at the front desk was very cool I had been talking to him for about thirty minutes before she arrived and he approved!

However there were some other interesting "looks" from people, and who knows what some of these people were thinking seeing this older fart with a pretty slim morena in tow and playing in the pool together, dining out, and having fun. I noticed one older couple close to my age, and the wife seemed to give me a disapproving glare, and the husband, well I'm not sure what he was thinking, may of been clueless and or envious, god forbid if he had been a fly on the wall in the room observing the activities taking place. All in all though, most people could of cared less, but I did experience some unwanted attention a few times.

To put this in perspective, I live in a Southern California beach town, and if I were seen in tow with this Chica walking on Main street, on the pier, or anywhere around town, all eye's would be on me like fly's on shit! Every single woman walking the street would be giving me the stink eye. As far as the men, most of them would be totally clueless with the exception of a few, and somebody might even call the police.

What I experienced reminded me that Colombia is like an alternative universe for me, and hard to match elsewhere in the world at the moment.

I'm sure some other board members here have had some "walk of shame" experiences, maybe more so in other Countries versus Colombia.I don't consider that the walk of shame at all. I get off on that. The older and uglier I get, the more I enjoy it.

Paulie97
07-20-21, 16:55
Attraction is completely subjective.It's actually not. There's a lot of agreement about who the most attractive women are, and even cross cultural studies bear this out.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130383/

JustTK
07-20-21, 17:50
What part of this don't you understand? Attraction is completely subjective, as the guy posting pics of deformed feet on this page clearly shows..None of it. That's why I wrote "Yes, quite right. ". I just gave my own rationale.

What part of THAT don't you understand? You seem like a really pleasant guy. Always eager to criticise and take exception. I guess you're a great example of a Miami guy, Sammy

JustTK
07-20-21, 18:04
This last week I experienced something I hadn't experienced in quite a while. She arrived dressed to the nines, Gucci bag, designer sunglasses, gold jewelry, all phony knock off shit of course and garnered some attention being with an old fart 40 years older than her.
I'm sure some other board members here have had some "walk of shame" experiences, maybe more so in other Countries versus Colombia.Yeah I remember that from about 20 years ago. Haha. Living in Pattaya for quite a while soon put paid to that. I came round to thinking. What is there to be ashamed of?? Going out with a well dressed and sexy woman should be the last thing anyone should be ashamed of. Really the shame should be on the other side, meaning those that think there is anything wrong with it. If you're still living in the "real world" I guess your more often exposed to it, but usually it's conservatives projecting their own culture and values on to a situation where neither of the participants should care what they think.

Besides I could think of plenty of worse "walks of shame" haha.

Beobeo
07-20-21, 18:28
The guy at the front desk was very cool I had been talking to him for about thirty minutes before she arrived and he approved!- I had a front desk guy got a girl's # for me. She was walking out of the building. I tipped him for it ofc. I think most Colombian are cool with it, it's American that will give you a dirty look. A fellow ISG member probably just smile at you, I know I would hahaha.

- Actually, I might see it happened at Pergamino Cafe, Poblado a few time. I see Senior gringo with 20's girl at that cafe a few times, we all clearly know what it is but nobody really care.

Osteoknot
07-20-21, 19:41
I don't consider that the walk of shame at all. I get off on that. The older and uglier I get, the more I enjoy it.My immigration lawyer here in the states is from Bogota. I told him the other morning that in the United States, I am Dirty Old Man, and in Medellin I get a high five. He gave me a deep laugh. I also told him the reason I needed him was that "I don't expect miracles, just an endless stream of gorgeous chicas back and forth between Colombia, South America, and where I live here," and he loved that too, even though he is a family man with four kids. He enjoyed our visit so much he didn't want to charge me for the hour, but I slid a fifty dollar bill across the table and told him he could keep it off the books. Later that same day when he E-mailed me, he wrote, "I always love talking with people who are happy with their lives by not fitting into the American "mold. " I think his attitude is not unusual for a more educated, enlightened Colombian.

Balboa
07-20-21, 20:34
What I experienced reminded me that Colombia is like an alternative universe for me, and hard to match elsewhere in the world at the moment.

I'm sure some other board members here have had some "walk of shame" experiences, maybe more so in other Countries versus Colombia.Brazil!

I just had a similar experience the other day in Rio de Janeiro.

I took my main GF along with me to see a friend who was in town with some of his colleagues.

My GF is a sweet young beauty, with that perfect beach tan, along with a big smile.

Anyway, a couple of my friend's colleagues happened to be with him when we arrived.

They were older gringa women, and they didn't approve, LOL.

My GF excused herself at one point to use the restroom, and one of the ladies (gringa) said to me, "she's adorable, but just how old is she?

I said, "I'm not sure, but I hope she's 18", Lol.

She's in fact 22.

The gringas did not like me being happy with a young and beautiful girl, that was apparent, and I didn't care, and they knew it, Lol.

Osteoknot
07-20-21, 20:45
The gringas did not like me being happy with a young and beautiful girl, that was apparent, and I didn't care, and they knew it, Lol.In Colombia, Brasil, etc. Although I have met mongers who prefer women in their 30's and 40's as "experienced" lovers, it must kind of suck for the older women in Colombia to feel they are competing against chicas between all the time.

Balboa
07-20-21, 20:47
Happened to me about 13 years ago at a casa. Met a 9 who some would most likely call a 10 who I'd not seen before. Good 1 hour session. When I got back to my hotel kicked myself for not having gotten her details. Never saw her again.Happened to me in Buenos Aires, Argentina several years ago.

I went to a mid range private apartment brothel, and an absolute beauty presented herself, 18 years old.

I picked her so fast before anyone else could speak.

The room had mirrored walls, I was watching myself with her and having an out of body experience watching us together.

I actually did ask for her contact info, she said maybe next time, if I came back to see her.

I came back the next day.

She was gone, the madam laughed and said she didn't make it past day 1 and already got a sponsor.

No surprise.

Probably the most beautiful girl I've ever been with.

Osteoknot
07-20-21, 20:55
The gringas did not like me being happy with a young and beautiful girl, that was apparent, and I didn't care, and they knew it, Lol.In Colombia, Brasil, etc. Although I have met mongers who prefer women in their 30's and 40's as "experienced" lovers, it must kind of suck for the older women in Colombia to feel they are competing against much younger chicas between all the time.

MiamiSammy
07-20-21, 21:59
It's actually not. There's a lot of agreement about who the most attractive women are, and even cross cultural studies bear this out.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130383/You're seriously showing me a single study and pretend this is the "new truth"? I'm afraid a single study like this is little more than an opinion. Get back with me when the scientific community comes to consensus.

MiamiSammy
07-20-21, 22:02
None of it. That's why I wrote "Yes, quite right. ". I just gave my own rationale.

What part of THAT don't you understand? You seem like a really pleasant guy. Always eager to criticise and take exception. I guess you're a great example of a Miami guy, SammyYou might have opened with that statement, but your points one and two below that statement go on to contradict that sentence. Most of the folks I've met in Miami would consider me a real sweetheart, sweetheart.

Osteoknot
07-20-21, 22:06
Listen as a guy who's into business that model just didn't make sense to me. But I'm sure there's a method to madness jaja.

And interesting you said that about understanding human behavior. Maybe (see: definitely) I'm delusional as well, but I'd say I'm decent at reading folks and emotions. Which (purely speculating here) maybe that's why I relate to your style of mongering.

Either way, no tengo prisa hermano. But when / if you do put that guide together I'd definitely be interested in the read.I'm lazy, and I use teleological thinking (I hope I spelled that right). I fully do not understand how I got here myself. There may be no such thing as Utopia, Nirvana, Heaven-on-earth, Shangrila, Shamabla, or the Garden of Eden, but Medellin is as close as I will ever come on this planet. I describe teleological thinking as, "I don't make plans, I set goals. " I don't know what the InterWeb says about it. I learned it from a professor in school who took a special interest in me, it was not part of her curriculum.

I rank all my girls by number and they know their number. That amazes me that it works, but is another way of managing referrals because they know exactly where they stand if they are brought in, and I never bring in a girl at a higher ranking than the girl who referred her. Loco, eh? I didn't sit down and write it out ahead, it formed itself along the way.

I remember staring at the ceiling in my hotel room off of Walking Streeting in Pattaya, Thailand, as this gorgeous young girl was leaving, thinking, "I could be very happy doing this for the rest of my life. " I had just gotten out of a 16 year marriage during which I was monogamous to a great sexy woman. Soon thereafter, I met my current novia, a Paisa girl from Medellin, but I told her I would never set foot in Medellin as long as I lived. I lived in Miami during the height of the Cocaine Wars, and that explains that.

Fast forward, here I am getting ready to land in Medellin for the third time from the USA. I am not a veteran for things Medellin, yet, but I have been called a Quick Study all my life. And a lot of this for you and me is about interpersonal skills which transfers anywhere.

Also, I have time dyslexia and suffer the effects of a traumatic brain injury (TBI) so I have trouble with sequencing events. What I am trying to tell you is that I knew what I wanted and what it would take to make me happy, but I didn't plan it and I'm not sure there is a process to even write down. I set a goal to be in essentially the situation I am now, surrounded by beautiful, young, appreciative women before I had any knowledge of Medellin, Colombia, or this type mongering lifestyle. Teleological thinking did the rest for me. My subconscious is on autopilot for this.

Unbelievably, I found four fotos of the girl in the room that night in Pattaya. I did not ask her to spread her ass in that one foto, she just stood up and did it, and did not move until I took a foto, jajajaja. I hope the mods leave this story in because I did nothing wrong and I am not condoning it. She was a bar girl, therefore supposedly screened for age and they checked her ID at the hotel desk, although I do recall the receptionist giving me a really strange look. The girl, a great fuck, literally did not say one word the entire time, until she was walking out the door. Then she turned around with sort of ironic smile and said, "I am only 16" and walked away. Those were her only words the entire encounter. Gulp. Jajajaja.

HumptyHump
07-20-21, 22:31
Maria arrived only 15 minutes late for a session with my friend at 9:15 am. When she entered the apartment, my jaw dropped. This girls is way prettier in real life than in her facebook pictures. The intel from my friend is that she is also pretty good in bed. Before she left, I made an appointment to see her on Wednesday morning.

After my friend left for his flight, I decided to make a trip to Parque Arvi. This is a nature preserve that is similar to the national parks in the US. I highly recommend people go there, and take public transportation while doing so. It took about 1 hour and 20 minutes to get there. One metro ride and two rides on metro cables which are gondola rides. Total cost was 37,000 pesos, including the metro card. I have not read anything written about the metro cables on this forum. These are awesome, and connect the different hill side communas with the city in the valley. There are five total in Medellin. The last one that goes to Parque Arvi travels over the tree tops of the nature park and provides 360 views of the city below. This is a must do activity if you are in Medellin. The park itself has many activities ranging from guided hikes to bicycle tours. I did a solo hike to an area with water falls called Chorro Clarin. Ate lunch in the park at an area called El Tambo. Lots of locals were eating there, food was being served cafeteria style. Wait was about 20 minutes but the food wasn't very good.

Had an appointment with Sofia at 8 pm. She had reached out to me wanting to meet. Sofia is 19, about 5 feet tall with light skin, some freckles, long curly ginger hair, nice ass and small tits. She has a daughter and some resulting baby damage which is not very noticeable. She arrived about 30 minutes late, understandable as she was coming from Bello. She is very soft spoken and was willing to try anything I wanted. Lots of photos and videos were taken. Before she left, she convinced me to see her friend Elizabeth the following morning. We spent about an hour and thirty minutes together. Called a taxi using Cabify and sent her on her way.

A reflection on the girls I've met. I like petite women with average to decent sized natural boobs. However, most of the girls I've been with are petite with small tits. Its proving hard to find the combination that I want. I know they're out there, but hard to find with only 4 - 5 days on hand.

BlackThought
07-20-21, 22:37
He stated that this is one version. He should have said that's his version and I agree with it. Those movie stars & Victoria secret runway models (not the recent one) has to be somewhere on the scale. I would say 9-10 for them. The chance to stick your meat into a 9-10 should be an opportunity of a lifetime.

You can feel free to post your scale, I'm sure most of our scale 1-10 are different. I attached someone that I think is an 8 in picture but 7 IRL. Feel free to post your examples.

I walked Centro many many times but I have never seen someone like her or better. I mostly see 5-6, if they clean up, put on decent clothes and make up, they can be a 7 at most. Clearly, we all use very different scale.Thanks for saving me a trip to el centro, almost believed some of these guys claiming that there are 8-10's in el centro. My rating scale aligns with her, she would be an 8 in my book. You have to keep in mind, the guy that claims to have sex with 8-10's for 30 k also frequents nana in Bangkok which has the most busted girls based on my experience.

BlackThought
07-20-21, 23:02
However there were some other interesting "looks" from people, and who knows what some of these people were thinking seeing this older fart with a pretty slim morena in tow and playing in the pool together, dining out, and having fun. I noticed one older couple close to my age, and the wife seemed to give me a disapproving glare, and the husband, well I'm not sure what he was thinking, may of been clueless and or envious, god forbid if he had been a fly on the wall in the room observing the activities taking place. All in all though, most people could of cared less, but I did experience some unwanted attention a few times.In my 20's, I would've given you the "look" as well. But I'll probably be doing the same thing as you when I'm 60+. Cause at the end of the day, who's really winning: 60+ year old banging the same box for 30+ years or the 60+ year old banging 20-30 year old hot chicas. You are living the dream, no shame in that.

Wolf662
07-20-21, 23:29
I see it differently then most of you.

I see it as percentiles.

A avg chick is a 5.50th percentile. Most women will fall into this category on a bell curve.

The top 10% are 10's. So 10-10's out of a every hundred chicks.

It is a more forgiving scale.

I thought Allison from Fase II was a 10 and Estrella from FaseII is a 8/9 and Tanya from Conejitas a 8.

Balboa
07-21-21, 02:52
Thanks for saving me a trip to el centro, almost believed some of these guys claiming that there are 8-10's in el centro. My rating scale aligns with her, she would be an 8 in my book. You have to keep in mind, the guy that claims to have sex with 8-10's for 30 k also frequents nana in Bangkok which has the most busted girls based on my experience.Exactly!

Definitely stay away from el Centro, nothing worthwhile there, unless you like the Nana girls you refer to, Lol.

I've walked the streets there for years, have never seen better than a 5. 😉

And yes, all guys that claim to have been with hot girls there, also frequent Nana in Bangkok.
No doubt. 🤥 lol.

Regnom3000
07-21-21, 02:54
I see it differently then most of you.

I see it as percentiles.

A avg chick is a 5.50th percentile. Most women will fall into this category on a bell curve.

The top 10% are 10's. So 10-10's out of a every hundred chicks.

It is a more forgiving scale.

I thought Allison from Fase II was a 10 and Estrella from FaseII is a 8/9 and Tanya from Conejitas a 8.That first and third girl are so bad.

Regnom3000
07-21-21, 03:03
Appreciate the perspective y'all have dropped on me lately on here. Going to take your advice and try the FB route.

Think it enforces the fact you really can find whatever you're looking for, just depends what you want.

For the guys out there that mainly use FB for your mongering. I'm curious how you go about it. That in person chemistry is important to me, do y'all just take a gamble and hope you click when she shows up?

Feel like that could get weird pretty quickly if a girl arrives and looks totally different than her photos, or just has a weird energy you don't fuck with.

How do you make sure it's worth your time / money before you get stuck in a situation?

BlackThought
07-21-21, 03:31
I see it differently then most of you.

I see it as percentiles.

A avg chick is a 5.50th percentile. Most women will fall into this category on a bell curve.

The top 10% are 10's. So 10-10's out of a every hundred chicks.

It is a more forgiving scale.

I thought Allison from Fase II was a 10 and Estrella from FaseII is a 8/9 and Tanya from Conejitas a 8.What you presented are the type of girls I normally go for when mongering, that pornstar look.

Beobeo
07-21-21, 04:13
I like petite women with average to decent sized natural boobs. However, most of the girls I've been with are petite with small tits. Its proving hard to find the combination that I want. I know they're out there, but hard to find with only 4 - 5 days on hand.I like same type of girls as you do, and it is hard to find even if you have time. I have search and search on Facebook, they do exist but there isn't that many. There are lot of big FAKE boobs but unless it is very soft and well done fake boobs, it is kind of a turn off for me. And another bad thing, these petite girls with big boobs don't stay petite very long LOL. I met a couple and they are usually a little chubbier than the pictures they posted.

Sangnyc21
07-21-21, 04:52
I like same type of girls as you do, and it is hard to find even if you have time. I have search and search on Facebook, they do exist but there isn't that many. There are lot of big FAKE boobs but unless it is very soft and well done fake boobs, it is kind of a turn off for me. And another bad thing, these petite girls with big boobs don't stay petite very long LOL. I met a couple and they are usually a little chubbier than the pictures they posted.Fernanda Rodrguez.

Mariana Penagos.

Saray Manuela Snchez.

Yuliany Diaz

Those are the "in" girls of Facebook right now if you like flacas. They’re pretty i consider them a 6-7

RedWaters44
07-21-21, 06:57
I am like you. I think it has more to do with people and money than age though. I have seen seniors who are picky, and I was as well.

Of all the stupid shit I have read on this forum, the worst is that Colombian women really want to hang with their broke ass novios. Daga, you are young, able to get to Colombia and do not think $100 is that much money. Your income potential is in the millions. You are a very high value asset but you have been beaten down by American women and society so much, you do not get what an asset you really are. I repeat. You do not get what a stud you are.Where were you when I went through my deep sprout of depression and loneliness in the hell that was 2020 and this year? If the past year has taught me anything, it's that I'm done with the US and chasing an unfulfilling lifestyle that constantly questions you desiring more. It's sickening and I'm so done with that soul crushing, victim blaming, failed state of a country. I'm so glad I discovered this forum and you studs in my early 20's. Thanks guys.

Belisaj
07-21-21, 08:00
I thought Allison from Fase II was a 10 and Estrella from FaseII is a 8/9 and Tanya from Conejitas a 8.Which one is Allison, which one is Estrella, and which one is Tanya in your thumbnails? Going to try searching them out next time I'm there. The one with the blonde highlights is definitely my type.

Belisaj
07-21-21, 08:07
I'm lazy, and I use teleological thinking (I hope I spelled that right). I fully do not understand how I got here myself. There may be no such thing as Utopia, Nirvana, Heaven-on-earth, Shangrila, Shamabla, or the Garden of Eden, but Medellin is as close as I will ever come on this planet.

I remember staring at the ceiling in my hotel room off of Walking Streeting in Pattaya, Thailand, as this gorgeous young girl was leaving, thinking, "I could be very happy doing this for the rest of my life. "

Fast forward, here I am getting ready to land in Medellin for the third time from the USA.So based on your experiences so far, which city do you like better overall? Pattaya or Medellin? I've done the Bangkok / Pattaya scene probably about 5 times over the last 4 years and will be heading down to Medellin for the first time in September so curious to see how it compares to Thailand.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 10:04
I was there exactly at 9 PM and it started to rain around 10 minutes later. While walking down Calle 10 the rain started to get harder and harder. What I witnessed was accurate in terms of what I saw. Did you notice that one side of Lleras was closed. I had dinner with a friend who lives a few blocks away and the rain didn't start until right after 9 PM. I didn't go inside any of the clubs and can only imagine that the ones outside, approximately 20 had no umbrellas with them must of entered the clubs. Maybe not enough potential clients inside of them, hence they were outside. I have no experience with the Clubs around Lleras, but was surprised to see so many outside on the street at 9 PM immediately before the rain started. There were also girls on the side streets leading up to Lleras, did you notice them? Seemed odd to me so many out at 9 PM, but that's what I saw. As far as pricing, I have no clue except by what I read by others here.I'm a bit late to this party, but here's my experience.

4 years ago, you wouldn't find any working girls in the park before 10 pm, and peak time wasn't until around 1 am. At the time I was literally walking through the park every night between 10 pm and 2 am. Also at that time, 20 out working the park and side streets was a big number. 10-15 was more likely. However, all of the clubs which are now closed were open and you could find girls in all of them.

3 weeks ago I saw plenty of girls in and around the park at around 9 pm. Last November I also noticed quite a few girls at about the same time, possibly a bit earlier.

With the past curfews and so many clubs closed, I think the girls needed to change their schedule to improve their chance of snagging a customer.

Of course, when it starts raining, they all seek cover.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 10:15
A few weeks back sum fool wrote his friend offered sum puta in MDE 3 million fucking pesos isn't that 6 mos salary (and he wrote "good for him" LMAO), I'm guessing that wasnt his starting bid? She really really didn't want to fuck him.

I see it all the time the most unattractive mongers among us (sorry someone has to be bottom LOL) will gravitate towards the more "attractive" putas in most venues.

They will get sodomized on price, and probably the worst service possible, but hey they got to walk out with her.

And everyone saw him leave with her jajajajaaaaa its all about generating "face" for sum.

So I'm guessing sum putas get tired of servicing the lower end of the monger ladder?

And when they see a monger they want to fuck, they don't care about the money aspect?That might make sense if you're dealing only with working girls who don't need the money. However, my observations in Medellin are that if she's working, she either needs the money, or she's with someone spending too much money to pass up. If she doesn't need the money she's either out with friends or family, or she bought weed, tussi and booze so she can fuck the guy or girl she's interested in.

There isn't much of a work ethic with Colombian hookers. They aren't out there putting in their 40 hours and "making hay, or lays, while the sun shines. " They get paid and then they don't work again until they run out of rice and eggs.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 10:17
If your travelling to the USA, the antigeno test is accepted and most people opt for it than the PCR test because it's so inexpensive and quick. Yet your saying that this test is not valid for travel, yet that is what you got tested for?We had this confusion before. The antibody test is only used to find out if you've had Covid. It's not useable for the travel requirements. The antigen test, or the PCR test is what you need for travel.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 10:33
Hey, we all roll differently. Some are into fb, others Lleras, others Fas Dos, others Centro. Me, I'm a strictly casa man; apparently not many of us around now. However, you have piqued my interest in Instagram. You stated "Some of them will want $, some of them will want just you". My experience has been that those who want $ have been significantly hotter than those who want just me. Obviously, you younger and handsomer guys out there may fare differently.The 4 girls I hung out with in Medellin are all active on Instagram, although that's not where I first met them. It was just hanging out, but my only expense was food. Although there was also gas money as I drove them some places and I paid for a boat tour at Guatape. A low price to pay to make the tourist attractions more enjoyable.

And 2 of them came to Bogota to spend time with me once I cleared quarantine. Which led to a bit of fun with one of the girls and it's looking like we'll be having a lot more fun next time.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 10:49
I knew my report would piss off some of the long time regulars which is why I prefaced it by saying I'm a younger guy that clearly has different preferences from you guys. Different strokes for different folks. My advice is meant for younger guys like me (20's to 30's) that want to experience and be sold the "dream" as you describe it. We're a completely different demographic with completely different wants and it looks like I'm not alone. Just recently one guy posted about how he shacked up in an Airbnb and invited girls over using Tinder and Insta and much preferred it to the scene at centro. You are the presumptuous one if you think that isn't a viable strategy. Another guy posted about how the highlight of his trip was Loutron. The same high end place that "sells you the dream" which you don't like. Everyone has different preferences. If you enjoy picking up chicks in Centro, great. I just don't think younger guys coming to Colombia would like doing the same thing because we can get the same thing back home. There's probably a special type of appeal picking up chicks for cheap in centro has for you guys. But for dudes that want to come here and fuck pornstar types and live it up, Centro ain't it.Although I'm not a younger guy, I feel the need to point out the flaw in your position.

I've seen plenty of young guys picking up chicks in El Centro. I've taken a few young guys to El Centro to pick up chicks. One guy I used to hit the casas with was a young guy with a hot wife.

Also, the porn stars don't come from Poblado. They come from El Centro and the other low estrato barrios. They also tend to be quite a bit lower on the attractiveness scale. There are plenty of working fashion models who are better looking, are in better shape and who are available.

There are guys here who spend more money, stay in nicer places, etc. There are guys here who don't. There's no set demographic.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 10:58
Hello,

I am new here but not new to the mongering thing but have never been to Colombia. I had some Credit with Jetblue so I decided to book a ticket to Bogota next month. It seems like everyone universally prefers Medellin and Cartagena for the women is there a particular reason that I am missing? I wanted to stay in Bogota because I like the cooler climate but Have now decided to spend only a day or 2 there and then go to Medellin for a week due to all the positive reviews.It depends on your style. If you're out barhopping at night, Bogota is cold. If you're doing your mongering in the daytime, except for rainy season, the weather is great. Although the altitude bothers some guys.

Medellin is comfortable at night, unless it's raining. It can get a little warm in the daytime, but humidity is low.

Mongering in Bogota focused mainly around the street action and clubs in Santa Fe, although there are plenty of over options.

I big part of mongering in Medellin revolves around Facebook, although there's also street action and clubs.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 11:01
I guess this begs the question of what strategy you used to find these Instagram sex kittens?

Were there keywords you searched with bedises 'Medellin'?Many list their Instagram account on their Facebook page.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 11:17
Rather SHE treats you like a quick client / ATM / stupid gringo / you name it, no matter how you treat her. She can't wait to be done with you and go back to Lleras / Centro / Gusto etc to find another paying client.

Yes, rapport goes a long way, but with non-pros or semi-pros, who actually care about chemistry and want to have fun and enjoy themselves.

Every hardcore puta tries to maximize her income. She tells you she is done for tonight and going home, but goes back to Lleras if she thinks she can get some more cash.Almost none of the hardcore putas try to maximize their income. Unless by maximize you mean get the money and get out as quick as possible. But most aren't headed to look for another score. They're headed home, because they got what they came for.

If you're paying for the pussy, she's a pro, not a non-pro or semi-pro.

Rapport, on the other hand works with almost every one. It helps the girl get comfortable. It gives her time to get in the right frame of mind. It also builds empathy. You make her laugh or get her talking and she stops seeing you as just another customer.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 11:45
LOL. Yeah I find it funny when they talk about 8-9's in el centro. Then I see some of the pics they post of centro girls with no curves etc, yeah no thanks. It's also why the hottest ones go overseas for more $ cause they can. Lots of 8-10 Colombians fly to Miami for big pay day, I doubt they'd be in el centro selling their pussy for 30 k / pop LOL.And you would be wrong.

Walking El Centro isn't going to be like walking the dressing room at the Miss Universe pageant. However, if you spend the time and make the laps, every now and then you will spot an 8 or 9.

Prostitution is usually a family business. When mom or auntie is not making enough then she drags along a niece or daughter who is hot, sweet and brand new.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 12:06
Lets get straight to it, how much do you think it would cost for me to eat out / rappi 2 meals a day for a month? I've guesstimated it for about 620 USD, but I need to hear your guys opinion on this figure and your recommendations.In Medellin? I guess it's going to vary widely depending on you.

I like to stay in an apartment. Every 3 or 4 days, I'll pick up some eggs, cheese and avocado. About 10 k for breakfast for 3 days. Call it $1 daily for breakfast. $1.30 if I buy a jug of orange juice.

For lunch I prefer hitting a typical Colombian place for the menu of the day, $3-$4. For dinner I'll alternate between more expensive meals and cheap meals. Average about $8 daily.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 12:13
Agreed. But this usually happens with FB girls or club girls.

My opinion is this.

If a girl is hot, she knows she's hot. Family members, friends, guys all remind her how hot she is everyday. They know their worth and I don't see girls like this going to centro to accept 40 k for a fuck.

But it really just comes down to each and everyone's individual experience.

Who cares what others think. Get your rocks off and spend what you can afford to spend.

My complaint on this board is usually the misinformation.

Or how guys brag they pay less than the next guy and got so much better service.

That's definitely BS.Often that's not true. There are a lot of incredibly hot women who are very insecure about their looks. It's practically a stereotype.

If you pay attention it becomes obvious. They often get snagged up by below average looking guys.

Part of the problem is that they aren't always being told how beautiful they are. Quite the opposite. The father's not around and the mother resents the unwanted kid.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 12:27
This last week I experienced something I hadn't experienced in quite a while. I am typically not out in "public" with my Chicas being either in El Centro, or at my place. However I met one of my Chicas last week at a beachfront tourist hotel in Cartagena. She arrived dressed to the nines, Gucci bag, designer sunglasses, gold jewelry, all phony knock off shit of course and garnered some attention being with an old fart 40 years older than her. The guy at the front desk was very cool I had been talking to him for about thirty minutes before she arrived and he approved!

However there were some other interesting "looks" from people, and who knows what some of these people were thinking seeing this older fart with a pretty slim morena in tow and playing in the pool together, dining out, and having fun. I noticed one older couple close to my age, and the wife seemed to give me a disapproving glare, and the husband, well I'm not sure what he was thinking, may of been clueless and or envious, god forbid if he had been a fly on the wall in the room observing the activities taking place. All in all though, most people could of cared less, but I did experience some unwanted attention a few times.When I got out of quarantine in Bogota, 2 girls from Medellin came to visit me. Sisters, 20-22. Both of them are very attractive on my scale, which just to be difficult is in Sanskrit. I got them a room in my nice airport hotel and was at the desk to check them in. I got them settled in and then we went to a nice restaurant. Of course both were taking lots of pictures.

Afterwards we walked back into the hotel together and nobody gave us a look. In the morning we moved everything to my room and checked them out. We were in and out of my room a few times and all ate breakfast and dinner together in the restaurant. Still nobody looked at us.

While I wasn't overly affectionate in public, I was holding the younger one close for much of time. That's working slowly into something more, at least at the moment.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 12:36
Exactly!

Definitely stay away from el Centro, nothing worthwhile there, unless you like the Nana girls you refer to, Lol.

I've walked the streets there for years, have never seen better than a 5. 😉

And yes, all guys that claim to have been with hot girls there, also frequent Nana in Bangkok.
No doubt..Does the scale go up to 5.5 if she has 2 legs?

SavePros321
07-21-21, 12:42
Rappi started to have problems with one of my cards again. And then this morning it had problems with the other card that it did not have problems with before!

This is what I did to fix it:

1) Verify that there is nothing going on with your card with your bank (took me damn near 35 minutes to get someone on the phone yesterday just for them to tell me the card is not blocked).

2) Delete the app. No need to delete the card again (as I mentioned to do in a previous post unless you did not verify the card. See my other Rappi post a page or so back).

3) Re-install the app and use the SMS option to login. Don't worry about not having a Colombian number: you can select the US country code (+1) and it will send your phone the SMS verification code to log into Rappi.

I have noticed that the app's interface looks a bit different than yesterday, so maybe they did an app update and it screwed everyone up!

Beobeo
07-21-21, 14:06
Those are the "in" girls of Facebook right now if you like flacas. Theyre pretty i consider them a 6-7Thank you for the suggestion. I like slender, big natural boobs. Unfortunately, those are like unicorn.

Turgid
07-21-21, 14:12
....he wrote, "I always love talking with people who are happy with their lives by not fitting into the American "mold. " I think his attitude is not unusual for a more educated, enlightened Colombian.They like you, you bring money into their country.

MiamiSammy
07-21-21, 14:17
I like same type of girls as you do, and it is hard to find even if you have time. I have search and search on Facebook, they do exist but there isn't that many. There are lot of big FAKE boobs but unless it is very soft and well done fake boobs, it is kind of a turn off for me. And another bad thing, these petite girls with big boobs don't stay petite very long LOL. I met a couple and they are usually a little chubbier than the pictures they posted.With all due respect, you're spending way too much time on chasing a dream and far too little being happy. We all have perfection in our minds eye, and social media gives us the illusion of having a one-stop shopping where we can find the exact perfect woman of our fantasies. You can find that closer in Medellin than anyplace I know, but don't get caught up seeking perfection and miss those girls who might not have tits as big and round as you'd like, but has a pussy that can do a double back flip with a twist, or whose personality makes the experience incredible. I wish I had a dollar for every 10 I spent time with who was about as animated as a pencil sketch, or every seeming 5-6 who came to life with a smile and warm personality, making her an 11. Just saying.

Turgid
07-21-21, 14:18
Thanks for saving me a trip to el centro, almost believed some of these guys claiming that there are 8-10's in el centro. My rating scale aligns with her, she would be an 8 in my book. You have to keep in mind, the guy that claims to have sex with 8-10's for 30 k also frequents nana in Bangkok which has the most busted girls based on my experience.Different people have different tastes. I have walked through Centro many times. I am not attracted to perhaps 85% of the girls I see there and my tastes are not all that high. However, I have seen some quite doable girls there but the availability of similar girls in much better and discreet surroundings makes me avoid contact with them.

MiamiSammy
07-21-21, 14:24
Different people have different tastes. I have walked through Centro many times. I am not attracted to perhaps 90% of the girls I see there and my tastes are not all that high. However, I have seen some quite doable girls there but the availability of similar girls in much better surroundings makes me avoid contact with them.If you're a ten you don't have to be in El Centro- that's just common sense. You'll catch the occasional newbie who is just getting her feet wet, but that's rare. All these girls are on social media and know about all the different sites where they can get top dollar. Now, if you're okay with a 5-6 at bargain basement prices, head to El Centro.

MiamiSammy
07-21-21, 14:31
I see it differently then most of you.

I see it as percentiles.

A avg chick is a 5.50th percentile. Most women will fall into this category on a bell curve.

The top 10% are 10's. So 10-10's out of a every hundred chicks.

It is a more forgiving scale.

I thought Allison from Fase II was a 10 and Estrella from FaseII is a 8/9 and Tanya from Conejitas a 8.In my book you have to be 100% natural to be a 10- no silicone or implants. I'd rather have tiny tits on a beautiful girl than have her ruin it with big, hard globes of plastic. Don't even get me started on Brazilian butts. If some guys like it, power to them. If a girl has a righteous, natural booty, no problem. These paisa chicas with the Kardashian butts look ridiculous.

MiamiSammy
07-21-21, 14:33
This last week I experienced something I hadn't experienced in quite a while. I am typically not out in "public" with my Chicas being either in El Centro, or at my place. However I met one of my Chicas last week at a beachfront tourist hotel in Cartagena. She arrived dressed to the nines, Gucci bag, designer sunglasses, gold jewelry, all phony knock off shit of course and garnered some attention being with an old fart 40 years older than her. The guy at the front desk was very cool I had been talking to him for about thirty minutes before she arrived and he approved!

However there were some other interesting "looks" from people, and who knows what some of these people were thinking seeing this older fart with a pretty slim morena in tow and playing in the pool together, dining out, and having fun. I noticed one older couple close to my age, and the wife seemed to give me a disapproving glare, and the husband, well I'm not sure what he was thinking, may of been clueless and or envious, god forbid if he had been a fly on the wall in the room observing the activities taking place. All in all though, most people could of cared less, but I did experience some unwanted attention a few times..Joke 'them if they can't take a fuck, Surf.

MiamiSammy
07-21-21, 14:39
Maria arrived only 15 minutes late for a session with my friend at 9:15 am. When she entered the apartment, my jaw dropped. This girls is way prettier in real life than in her facebook pictures. The intel from my friend is that she is also pretty good in bed. Before she left, I made an appointment to see her on Wednesday morning.

After my friend left for his flight, I decided to make a trip to Parque Arvi. This is a nature preserve that is similar to the national parks in the US. I highly recommend people go there, and take public transportation while doing so. It took about 1 hour and 20 minutes to get there. One metro ride and two rides on metro cables which are gondola rides. Total cost was 37,000 pesos, including the metro card. I have not read anything written about the metro cables on this forum. These are awesome, and connect the different hill side communas with the city in the valley. There are five total in Medellin. The last one that goes to Parque Arvi travels over the tree tops of the nature park and provides 360 views of the city below. This is a must do activity if you are in Medellin. The park itself has many activities ranging from guided hikes to bicycle tours. I did a solo hike to an area with water falls called Chorro Clarin. Ate lunch in the park at an area called El Tambo. Lots of locals were eating there, food was being served cafeteria style. Wait was about 20 minutes but the food wasn't very good..I totally agree re: the cable cars and Parque Arvi. One of my favorite parts of Medellin, especially if you can get there first thing in the morning. The birds are singing so loud you can hardly hear yourself think, but in a good way. I know they'be been building them, but I can only think of three- the one going to Santo Domingo / Spanish Library, the one that connects to it going to Parque Arvi, and the one that goes east at the end of the San Javier line. Where are the other two? The metro system in Medellin is one of the brightest parts of the city. You can get anywhere between about 6 a-10 p for almost nothing. A $10 ($40.000 COP) ticket lasts me easily a week.

Surfer500
07-21-21, 14:44
Exactly!

Definitely stay away from el Centro, nothing worthwhile there, unless you like the Nana girls you refer to, Lol.

I've walked the streets there for years, have never seen better than a 5. 😉

And yes, all guys that claim to have been with hot girls there, also frequent Nana in Bangkok.
No doubt. 🤥 lol.Yes good advice, El Centro is only for bottom feeders!

This Friday I have a friend arriving, he was in Medellin about four years ago before the invasion of the Venezuelans, and is street rat with longer whiskers then me.

I tried to explain to him how much things have changed at "ground zero" with the herds of girls during prime time between 4-6 PM, and I told him as weird as this may sound, but it's kinda like in front of the parking lot to the Nana Plaza Hotel.

He got all giddy when I told him this.

Beobeo
07-21-21, 15:00
With all due respect, you're spending way too much time on chasing a dream and far too little being happy. We all have perfection in our minds eye, and social media gives us the illusion of having a one-stop shopping where we can find the exact perfect woman of our fantasies. You can find that closer in Medellin than anyplace I know, but don't get caught up seeking perfection and miss those girls who might not have tits as big and round as you'd like, but has a pussy that can do a double back flip with a twist, or whose personality makes the experience incredible. I wish I had a dollar for every 10 I spent time with who was about as animated as a pencil sketch, or every seeming 5-6 who came to life with a smile and warm personality, making her an 11. Just saying.You are right. I'm always open to meet new girls to add to my rotation when I have energy left from my current fav. I'm not saying I'm exclude them out, its just my standard is a little higher after finding a 8-9 that keep me very busy and low energy hahaha.

Smoothy
07-21-21, 15:43
These paisa chicas with the Kardashian butts look ridiculous.For whatever reason, I get turned on by that. If I see some chick with an outlandishly enhanced huge ass, I will take her every time. I know it's kind of a freak show, but I love it.

Knowledge
07-21-21, 15:57
Judging only from the photos it appears silicone is a requirement of ratings above 6.


I see it differently then most of you.

I see it as percentiles.

A avg chick is a 5.50th percentile. Most women will fall into this category on a bell curve.

The top 10% are 10's. So 10-10's out of a every hundred chicks.

It is a more forgiving scale.

I thought Allison from Fase II was a 10 and Estrella from FaseII is a 8/9 and Tanya from Conejitas a 8.

Knowledge
07-21-21, 16:04
I am with you. Silicone really turns me off. I can deal with breast implants by ignoring them. Butt implants are an immediate game over for me.


In my book you have to be 100% natural to be a 10- no silicone or implants. I'd rather have tiny tits on a beautiful girl than have her ruin it with big, hard globes of plastic. Don't even get me started on Brazilian butts. If some guys like it, power to them. If a girl has a righteous, natural booty, no problem. These paisa chicas with the Kardashian butts look ridiculous.

ColombiaLover
07-21-21, 16:24
Amen. Truer words never spoken. And for me, I'd rather have a pretty face (natural) than one that looks great with make-up, but hideous without. Most of these so-called high-end girls are so fake, whether it's because of silicone ass and / or tits, fake jewelry, shoes, and purses, or too much make-up. I'd love to see these so-called high-end girls without make-up. Leidy Barone, who seems to have several admirers, once did an instagram video of her doing her make-up. She started out with her face clean. No make-up. It was not that pretty of a site, to be honest. Why guys pay so much for "fake" I'll never know. Give me the girl next door with a pretty face, natural everything, and no tats (if possible) and I'm happy.


In my book you have to be 100% natural to be a 10- no silicone or implants. I'd rather have tiny tits on a beautiful girl than have her ruin it with big, hard globes of plastic. Don't even get me started on Brazilian butts. If some guys like it, power to them. If a girl has a righteous, natural booty, no problem. These paisa chicas with the Kardashian butts look ridiculous.

SavePros321
07-21-21, 16:41
Appreciate the perspective y'all have dropped on me lately on here. Going to take your advice and try the FB route.

Think it enforces the fact you really can find whatever you're looking for, just depends what you want.

For the guys out there that mainly use FB for your mongering. I'm curious how you go about it. That in person chemistry is important to me, do y'all just take a gamble and hope you click when she shows up?

Feel like that could get weird pretty quickly if a girl arrives and looks totally different than her photos, or just has a weird energy you don't fuck with.

How do you make sure it's worth your time / money before you get stuck in a situation?It's a roll of the dice man. But this is something simple you can do: agree to pay for "el carro" (DiDi, InDriver, Uber) and from your place. If the chick shows up not looking like her photos, or if you get that the vibe is off, do not try to engage in sex and just tell her you will give her money for her taxi back home. No harm, no foul.

Don't always go by vibe though. Some chicas arrive and we don't have much to say. But then it ends up being a wild time in the sack and turns out to be something you almost missed out on, LOL.

Beobeo
07-21-21, 17:19
Amen. Truer words never spoken. And for me, I'd rather have a pretty face (natural) than one that looks great with make-up, but hideous without. Most of these so-called high-end girls are so fake, whether it's because of silicone ass and / or tits, fake jewelry, shoes, and purses, or too much make-up. I'd love to see these so-called high-end girls without make-up. Leidy Barone, who seems to have several admirers, once did an instagram video of her doing her make-up. She started out with her face clean. No make-up. It was not that pretty of a site, to be honest. Why guys pay so much for "fake" I'll never know. Give me the girl next door with a pretty face, natural everything, and no tats (if possible) and I'm happy.I'm with you 100%!

JjBee62
07-21-21, 18:02
If you're a ten you don't have to be in El Centro- that's just common sense. You'll catch the occasional newbie who is just getting her feet wet, but that's rare. All these girls are on social media and know about all the different sites where they can get top dollar. Now, if you're okay with a 5-6 at bargain basement prices, head to El Centro.Common sense is suddenly a requirement for prostitution? That's going to change everything!

If all those hookers are now using common sense, expect the cheapest ones to start charging at least $100 for a quickie. After all, that's what gringos in the US are paying for sex with a nasty, drug addict, and if they're in Medellin, common sense says, they aren't flying back to Toledo every time they want to get laid. Expect the slightly above average girls to be charging at least $300 per hour. Common sense again. You already paid for the flight and lodging. Why charge $50 when your customer can't find anything comparable back home for less than $500?

The good news is, we won't have to pay for taxis while the Metro is running. We also don't have to worry any girl will ever be late again. Common sense says that if you make someone wait too long, you'll lose the customer.

Yep, all that common sense is really going to change things.

I expect the casas will all close. Why give a casa half your income, when you can be fucking for more money in nice apartments?

Common sense is a rare thing. Almost nobody uses it and even less understand it. Common sense to you says all the hookers will behave the same way. They don't. Common sense to you says that beautiful women are confident and sure. They aren't. Common sense to you says they will make the best choices. They won't.

When it comes to selling pussy, very few girls have any sort of plan. Instead they have a friend who talks them into it. Now, if the friend is working at the Mansion, the new girl starts at the Mansion. If the friend is working at a casa, the new girl starts at a casa. And if the friend is working the Veracruz area, three guesses where the new girl starts.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 18:10
Appreciate the perspective y'all have dropped on me lately on here. Going to take your advice and try the FB route.

Think it enforces the fact you really can find whatever you're looking for, just depends what you want.

For the guys out there that mainly use FB for your mongering. I'm curious how you go about it. That in person chemistry is important to me, do y'all just take a gamble and hope you click when she shows up?

Feel like that could get weird pretty quickly if a girl arrives and looks totally different than her photos, or just has a weird energy you don't fuck with.

How do you make sure it's worth your time / money before you get stuck in a situation?For the girls I frequent on Facebook it's easy. I don't bother with the girls who never update their Facebook page. The ones who interest me are doing things and going places. They post frequent pictures and post things which they find funny or interesting.

Put it all together and you have a decent snapshot of life, personality and looks.

Mr Enternational
07-21-21, 18:15
In my book you have to be 100% natural to be a 10- no silicone or implants. I'd rather have tiny tits on a beautiful girl than have her ruin it with big, hard globes of plastic. Don't even get me started on Brazilian butts. If some guys like it, power to them. If a girl has a righteous, natural booty, no problem. These paisa chicas with the Kardashian butts look ridiculous.The only reason I took this chick at Conejitas was because she had a cute face (and it was only 50K). I hate implants and she had them in both places. Great session and after I told her that she was cute but why would she do that to herself. She said it is what we do in Colombia; I like it. Women are fucking stupid. Imagine me getting something put in my dick and now my dick is all lumpy and has a scar down the middle. I would be like man I fucked up, not I really like it.

SlapShot10
07-21-21, 19:42
Here's my version of a beginner's guide to Medellin Instagram.

1) Paisas aren't much for #medellin unless they are webcam models.

2) Figure out the hot spots: nightclubs, restaurants, malls, parks, gyms, etc.

3) Search those in PLACES.

4) The TOP collection will show the girls with 180 k Followers, this is probably not who you should target, but you could check her account to see other places she goes to, and continue down the worm hole.

5) Click RECENT (next to TOP) to filter by date of upload.

6) If a chica has less than 5 k Followers, shoot your shot.

7) These are not rules, simply recommendations. My esposita from the pandemic has 15 k+ Followers, so it's not black and white.

8) Once you start following some of these girls, your recommendations will change to their friends, etc. , and off you go.

9) Consider using a new / separate account if you don't want this mixing with your private life. However, an account with no Followers or photos will be suspicious and you will not have much success getting approvals to follow private accounts.

I had a chica over for a party a week and a half ago, and she brought two friends. She is really pretty, petite, and generally comes across as a fun and nice person. We then went to dinner a few nights later with a group. Oh, 250 k for the party night (same for her friend that was with us). Then, she was in the neighborhood and came over the following day. She said something about wearing her uniform. I didn't quite understand or care. I figured it had to do with work. Well, she shows up in her colegio uniform (HS). We sit down to have lunch, and I was like, "Holy fuck. Fuck me. How old are you?" She said 18, as of a month ago. I said the portero must have given her a look. She said no, it's normal because girls in their final year of colegio are typically of age. She gave me the sloppiest wet BJ of my life, that day (on her period). I was in a leather desk chair, and it looked like some one spilled a drink on it. She still has some learning to do, but she's on the right path! Her body is at the stage where a gym routine would do wonders to put her in the top echelon of Paisas, because her face is that pretty. I gave her 200 k for the unique BJ. She's going to school, taking virtual classes from a technical school, and is thinking about becoming a webcam model. Her friend, on the other hand, is a dogface (ok it's not that terrible) but an amazing petite body without an ounce of fat in any wrong places. Oh, these were SA chicas. My buddy invited over two FB girls, and the difference was blatantly obvious, to me.

Cheers.

Balboa
07-21-21, 20:18
Does the scale go up to 5.5 if she has 2 legs?Por supuesto! Lol.

BlackThought
07-21-21, 20:20
And you would be wrong.

Walking El Centro isn't going to be like walking the dressing room at the Miss Universe pageant. However, if you spend the time and make the laps, every now and then you will spot an 8 or 9.

Prostitution is usually a family business. When mom or auntie is not making enough then she drags along a niece or daughter who is hot, sweet and brand new.I guess it comes down to what you value more: time vs money.

I don't have the luxury to stay in Colombia for a month+ long trip like you and surfer (more like 5-7 days). So I value my time over money, and would rather stick with the parque Lleras area as there's a higher concentration of 8+ vs el centro. If I was staying there for several weeks at a time, I would definitely have a different strategy to stretch the dollar.

Balboa
07-21-21, 20:24
And you would be wrong.

Walking El Centro isn't going to be like walking the dressing room at the Miss Universe pageant. However, if you spend the time and make the laps, every now and then you will spot an 8 or 9.

Prostitution is usually a family business. When mom or auntie is not making enough then she drags along a niece or daughter who is hot, sweet and brand new.That's what makes it fun! Lol.
For me anyway.
Are we still allowed to have fun? Lol

Balboa
07-21-21, 20:28
Rapport, on the other hand works with almost every one. It helps the girl get comfortable. It gives her time to get in the right frame of mind. It also builds empathy. You make her laugh or get her talking and she stops seeing you as just another customer.Impossible! Pros don't care about rapport! What are you thinking man?

(I'm being sarcastic of course) Lol
I was schooled earlier about the non importance of rapport with pros. 🙄

Beobeo
07-21-21, 21:05
That's what makes it fun! Lol.
For me anyway.
Are we still allowed to have fun? LolOf course man, you do you and who care what other say. Honestly, I still walk el Centro once a while but always walk away disappointed. Once a while, I see members posted that they met a 9 in Centro for have her for 30 k or something. I'm like FUCK, I want a 9 for 30 k and I walked around then walked away disappointed.

I'm just saying, base on the scale that was post recently. It's hard to find a 7 in el Centro. You can forget the 9-10. Some members posted meeting 9-10 in Centro, they use a different scale. I'm sure once a while you find a unicorn, that is like hitting the lottery. For a normal Joe, that visit Medellin once a while you're not going to find that. It's better to use different venue (FB, Casa, etc.).

Mojo Bandit
07-21-21, 21:08
It took one reply from her to get my spidey senses buzzing. Something seemed off. Then she messaged me again and I posted here. She is now deleted and blocked for me. I had a feeling-it doesn't take too long to be able to sense the BS from the real.

Now, everyone here should know.

I'll be sticking with my stable and their friends instead of new FB chicas for this trip LOL.

Thanks for the information and the confirmation of my suspicions.Look who showed up in Cuba. Again in my suggested friends field and again for a about 10 seconds I admit I was having sugar plum fantasies dancing in my head until I realized she was a clone! (P. S. For lurkers and people who read things for their face value. These profiles are examples of someone stealing someone else's likeness and then trying to hustle you).

Cuban clone.

https://www.facebook.com/roxana.valdes.5055

Colombian clone.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142

Original DNA donor.

https://www.instagram.com/laurysdyvv/?hl=en

"The model and influencer Laura Rodríguez, mostly known as "Laurys Dyva" or "Miss Pynandi", has been criticized for a long time because she would have bought followers on Instagram and that through that she reached 3,500,000 followers".

Beobeo
07-21-21, 21:28
Look who showed up in Cuba. Again in my suggested friends field and again for a about 10 seconds I admit I was having sugar plum fantasies dancing in my head until I realized she was a clone! (P. S. For lurkers and people who read things for their face value. These profiles are examples of someone stealing someone else's likeness and then trying to hustle you).

Cuban clone.

https://www.facebook.com/roxana.valdes.5055

Colombian clone.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142

Original DNA donor.

https://www.instagram.com/laurysdyvv/?hl=en

"The model and influencer Laura Rodrguez, mostly known as "Laurys Dyva" or "Miss Pynandi", has been criticized for a long time because she would have bought followers on Instagram and that through that she reached 3,500,000 followers".DR clone? https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142.

Wolf662
07-21-21, 21:34
Which one is Allison, which one is Estrella, and which one is Tanya in your thumbnails? Going to try searching them out next time I'm there. The one with the blonde highlights is definitely my type.The photo titles have their names, but the 1st 3 shots are Allison, the the next is Estrella and Tanya is the last one in the close up. Tanya is no longer around but Estrella was at Fase last time I was there but that was pre covid, she lives in Rio Negro. Allison had gone to work in Panama last I heard.

Wolf662
07-21-21, 21:40
Judging only from the photos it appears silicone is a requirement of ratings above 6.The middle chick Estrella is all natural.

Balboa
07-21-21, 21:49
Of course man, you do you and who care what other say. Honestly, I still walk el Centro once a while but always walk away disappointed. Once a while, I see members posted that they met a 9 in Centro for have her for 30 k or something. I'm like FUCK, I want a 9 for 30 k and I walked around then walked away disappointed.

I'm just saying, base on the scale that was post recently. It's hard to find a 7 in el Centro. You can forget the 9-10. Some members posted meeting 9-10 in Centro, they use a different scale. I'm sure once a while you find a unicorn, that is like hitting the lottery. For a normal Joe, that visit Medellin once a while you're not going to find that. It's better to use different venue (FB, Casa, etc.).Right on man! I was just being sarcastic actually. I respect others of course, but always do me, and always have fun, LOL.

Why else do this?

I roam the streets of Centro looking for my type, and I roam frequently.

I don't pay much attention to a scale. As we all know, one man's 9 is another guy's 6 and vice versa.

I see no point in all that really.

I usually find something I like in Centro and if not, I call in reinforcements, LOL.

I have about 20 years in Medellin now, and have made a few contacts haha.

El Centro takes patience for sure, but can pay off.

I partake in all the venues of PFP in Medellin, or all the other cities on this planet I visit for that matter.

I must be a street guy by nature tho, because that's where I enjoy the hunt the most, and where I've found my diamonds.

For others of course, they prefer other venues and have had great success for themselves as well.

We all roll differently and that's cool!

BlackThought
07-21-21, 21:50
I'm with you 100%!What about this silicone butt? Too much?

JjBee62
07-21-21, 21:57
That's what makes it fun! Lol.
For me anyway.
Are we still allowed to have fun? LolFun? I thought it was all for bragging rights.

Rwaters
07-21-21, 22:02
I downloaded the app. Went to make my first order.

It asks for a telephone number- I had to change country as I don't have a Colombian cell.

I press order and it brings me back to the screen to enter telephone number. This just goes on and on.

Anybody else have this problem? Or no a workaround?


Rappi started to have problems with one of my cards again. And then this morning it had problems with the other card that it did not have problems with before!

This is what I did to fix it:

1) Verify that there is nothing going on with your card with your bank (took me damn near 35 minutes to get someone on the phone yesterday just for them to tell me the card is not blocked).

2) Delete the app. No need to delete the card again (as I mentioned to do in a previous post unless you did not verify the card. See my other Rappi post a page or so back).

3) Re-install the app and use the SMS option to login. Don't worry about not having a Colombian number: you can select the US country code (+1) and it will send your phone the SMS verification code to log into Rappi.

I have noticed that the app's interface looks a bit different than yesterday, so maybe they did an app update and it screwed everyone up!

ColombiaLover
07-21-21, 22:03
I like them young and unspoiled if I can get them. I have had a few high school girls myself. They are 18, but still in school. For me, that makes it extra hot. If you can get them to wear their uniform, all the better. The HS girls I've had are not prepagos (at least not yet), so getting them fresh with no baby damage, cellulite, fat without much mileage is great. They often lack some experience, but that's where the teaching comes into play. And that can be fun also, especially when they are open to learning.


Here's my version of a beginner's guide to Medellin Instagram.

I had a chica over for a party a week and a half ago, and she brought two friends. She is really pretty, petite, and generally comes across as a fun and nice person. We then went to dinner a few nights later with a group. Oh, 250 k for the party night (same for her friend that was with us). Then, she was in the neighborhood and came over the following day. She said something about wearing her uniform. I didn't quite understand or care. I figured it had to do with work. Well, she shows up in her colegio uniform (HS). We sit down to have lunch, and I was like, "Holy fuck. Fuck me. How old are you?" She said 18, as of a month ago.

Cheers.

JjBee62
07-21-21, 22:16
Look who showed up in Cuba. Again in my suggested friends field and again for a about 10 seconds I admit I was having sugar plum fantasies dancing in my head until I realized she was a clone! (P. S. For lurkers and people who read things for their face value. These profiles are examples of someone stealing someone else's likeness and then trying to hustle you).

Cuban clone.

https://www.facebook.com/roxana.valdes.5055

Colombian clone.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142

Original DNA donor.

https://www.instagram.com/laurysdyvv/?hl=en

"The model and influencer Laura Rodrguez, mostly known as "Laurys Dyva" or "Miss Pynandi", has been criticized for a long time because she would have bought followers on Instagram and that through that she reached 3,500,000 followers".Last spring when I was buying videos, 1 girl wanted to make a girl-girl video for me. She was going to do it with a friend and the price was high. So I asked for some excerpts from the video to be sure it was worth it.

I'd already video chatted with the girl and she wasn't either girl in the video. Then she told me she had taken the video of her friends. I looked again. It was clearly shot with multiple professional cameras. So I asked again and again she said she had taken the video.

One girl in the video had a distinctive tattoo. There's a database where you can search porn stars by tattoos. Found her. The girl I was talking to kept insisting her friend from Medellin was a porn star from Florida and that she had taken the video.

She eventually changed her story but still insisted her friend was the porn star.

BlackThought
07-21-21, 22:33
What about this silicone butt? Too much?https://www.instagram.com/reel/CRmGV7VJcIU/?utm_medium=copy_link

JjBee62
07-21-21, 22:53
Right on man! I was just being sarcastic actually. I respect others of course, but always do me, and always have fun, LOL.

Why else do this?

I roam the streets of Centro looking for my type, and I roam frequently.

I don't pay much attention to a scale. As we all know, one man's 9 is another guy's 6 and vice versa.

I see no point in all that really.

I usually find something I like in Centro and if not, I call in reinforcements, LOL.

I have about 20 years in Medellin now, and have made a few contacts haha.

El Centro takes patience for sure, but can pay off.

I partake in all the venues of PFP in Medellin, or all the other cities on this planet I visit for that matter.

I must be a street guy by nature tho, because that's where I enjoy the hunt the most, and where I've found my diamonds.

For others of course, they prefer other venues and have had great success for themselves as well.

We all roll differently and that's cool!I see no point in worrying how other guys rate other girls. Or in worrying about assigning a number to a girl you haven't had yet. The time to rate her is after you're done.

Mojo Bandit
07-21-21, 23:17
DR clone? https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100030230804142.Thats the one with a Colombian phone number. Check out the +57 at the beginning of her Whatsapp.

MarquisdeSade1
07-21-21, 23:27
I guess it comes down to what you value more: time vs money..Time is money? Really? Doesn't it take time to make money also or do you like suggesting as long as you aren't in a mongering city.

It falls out of the sky like manna from the heavens.

"I don't get overcharged" time is money jajajajajaaaa.

Like its ever an either or proposition, how about not getting overcharged and returning home having more money in ones possession.

Then you can spend less time working to replace it, and spend more time making and saving more for future putas (as opposed to replacing what was lost being overcharged).

Sounds like your mentality is lose lose vs win win.

Combo
07-22-21, 00:17
And you would be wrong.

Walking El Centro isn't going to be like walking the dressing room at the Miss Universe pageant. However, if you spend the time and make the laps, every now and then you will spot an 8 or 9.

Prostitution is usually a family business. When mom or auntie is not making enough then she drags along a niece or daughter who is hot, sweet and brand new.I agree. Probably the two hottest chicas I've ever seen in MDE were in el Centro (Around Raudal). As close to 10's as you can get (easily Scandallo quality for Brasil lovers). However, the average chica in Centro is not very appealing. You have to put in some time and have some luck to see 8 and above.

FWIW, I mix it up in MDE, no reason to limit oneself to one venue. I try to hit el Centro once a trip, but I also spend lots of time in P. LLeras, massage / casas and Strip Clubs. And I sometimes I get lazy if I'm staying at the Mansion and just do someone on site. I've done Facebook a bit, but I really prefer meeting a chica in person first.

MarquisdeSade1
07-22-21, 00:28
I agree. Probably the two hottest chicas I've ever seen in MDE were in el Centro (Around Raudal). As close to 10's as you can get (easily Scandallo quality for Brasil lovers). However, the average chica in Centro is not very appealing. You have to put in some time and have some luck to see 8 and above.

FWIW, I mix it up in MDE, no reason to limit oneself to one venue. I try to hit el Centro once a trip, but I also spend lots of time in P. LLeras, massage / casas and Strip Clubs. And I sometimes I get lazy if I'm staying at the Mansion and just do someone on site. I've done Facebook a bit, but I really prefer meeting a chica in person first.Pussy was never meant to be bought online, I don't buy food or clothes or cars online either.

Nevermind all the bait and switch, F2F is the only way to go, espec if you're working from a position of strength jajajaaa.

Some might prefer to shop behind the curtain of the portal one is using.

Speaking of curtains, I think its funny, in some of the casas in MDE, they have a curtain the putas hide behind, be careful.

If there's a dood sitting to see the viewing they don't want to go with they won't come out and you won't see them either jajajajaja.

LostBlade
07-22-21, 01:33
Hello guys,

I have decided to share a little trip report about my first visit to Colombia.

First a little about me, I have usually monger in Asia countries like Thailand, Philippine, Indonesia etc. I am Chinese, from New York and 39 years old. My main priority when traveling are girls, food and poker, in that order.

Colombia was more of a happy accident. Due to Covid, I am unable to spend my vacation in Asia, so I had to scramble for a new place. It was originally planned for Costa Rica since I don't speak a word of Spanish and I have heard its easier there if you don't speak Spanish. However eventually, we settle on Colombia.

I also did a lot of pretrip planning like I always do, probably read through 500 page of this board, set up a Facebook and tinder account etc. Read alot of advice from the board and ignore them. More on that later.

The trip was 3 days in Cartagena and 5 days in Medellin and I was traveling with 3 other friends.

The first day started off terrible, Jetblue had a 4 hour delay, 3 of those hour were stuck sitting in the plane. The original plan was to land and go watch sunset at Caf Del Mar. Since we had a 4 hour delay, we landed at 7 pm, and the taxi we told also broke, and we had to help push the taxi to the side of the road and get pick up by another taxi. We got to Oz hotel, and found out the taxi driver drop us off in the wrong oz, since their is two oz hotel. Luckily it was a 5 min walk to the other hotel and we were able to settle in, take a shower and get ready to go out.

During this time I also walked to a nearby grocery store to buy some water, and was harass by what feels like 20 different vendor in a 2 block walk. I didn't believe it when I was told there is alot of vendor in Cartagena, I was obviously wrong.

We went to Juan Del Mar for a late dinner, (more of a late lunch, since we were stuck at Jetblue for an extra 4 hour, we skipped lunch too.) we had the shrimp paella, the lobster paella and a mix Ceviche. The Ceviche was weird but not bad, the lobster paella was good but the shrimp one was a little blend. Then we head to Dolce Vita, it was already 11 pm then, and there is a 12 o'clock curfew. Only one of my friend found a companion. Every one else just walked around clock tower and the clubs for a while and went back to the hotel. I did message a girl who I match on tinder came over to the hotel at 1. 30 am. I was going to ask her for the next day but she said she can come not, so I said ok. Apparently curfew doesn't really matter to them. I have read about Colombian girls being flaky and when this girl show up 40 min later then she said, I through that was what you guys meant and it wasn't that bad. (P. S. I was very wrong). Anna show up, we chat for a bit. She was super friendly and didn't seem to mind that I have to use google translate for everything. Then she said she was hungry, so we tried to order through Rappi. That burger she order told almost an hour and a half to get here. Then we had our session and she sleep till the morning. (I usually prefer them to stay overnight, so that was what we agree on.).

Day two, I woke up and went to a coffee shop nearby for breakfast alone. This is going to be a recurring theme, since I am almost always up earlier then my other friends. After they all wake up, we went to Centro and did some touristy stuff, walked around town, visit Castillo de San Felipe de Barajas. (P. S. We were all wearing shorts, I know I read that you are suppose to wear long pants and try to blend in with the local, but I looked myself in the mirror and figure a Chinese who doesn't speak a word of Spanish in Colombia is never going to blend in. Plus Cartagena was super hot.). Night time came, we had dinner at Cafe Del Mar and watch the sunset. Del Mar was a total tourist trap, food and drink were expensive and tasted terrible. We went to Delirium check out the talnet, it was a bit early at 8 pm and there was maybe 10 to 15 girls in there but none to our liking. So we walked around and eventually settle down at Dolce Vita. One of the chica tried to quote my friend 1. 2 million peso, but since I did my research. We said no and sent her on her way. Spend a few hours looking around and only 1 of our friend find a girl again. I am pretty sure its because I am picky but Cartagena was looking like a burst and Colombia was looking like one of those one of a life time trip.

Day three, I had reservation on Blue Apple Resort for a beach day. The beach was dingy and small. Most people stayed around the pool area anyway, but some how the food at Blue Apple were great, probably some of the best thing I had in Cartagena. Came back and tried our luck at the club and clock tower again. I think my friend lowered their standard but it was still a burst for me, so I asked Anna to come over again and we went to have dinner El Muelle near our hotel. Food was decent, my friend really liked the seafood rice but my friend fish was just ok. Anna was probably the best thing that happen in Cartagena and she still message me at time. I just don't have the heart to tell her, I am probably not going to visit Cartagena again.

Day four, We packed up and went to the airport for our trip to Medellin. Arrive to Medellin with no problem, and the taxi driver we had (Victor) spoke really good english and we end up taking down his contact for a later trip to Guatape. This was a super lucky accident, since I was not able to find another other taxi driver that spoke english this whole trip. We arrive at our airbnb in El Poblado, called Europa. Very nice place, huge 3 bed rooms with balcony, 4 bathroom. Staff spoke English and super friendly. I think our 3 bedroom was 180 usd a day. The wifi was choppy in my room and only works in the living room, and the hot water was on and off at times. Regardless, I would still recommend this place. One of my friend was staying at Haven Hotel, since he joined last minute and we already booked our airbnb. I never went into his room, but the outside of his hotel looked great and definitely guest friendly. We were going to go our and grub some dinner and watch Argentina vs Colombia Copa America. I suggested Patrick's Irish Pub, but when we got there, it was kind of quiet and dark. The bar across the street with a balcony (forgot the name) had a great vibe and many pretty waitress, so we went there. Turns out they don't serve food, our waitress said she can bring us girls if we want. She was the pretties in the bar, so we ask her to sit down and drink with us. Never found out if we can take them out, but this bar had a bunch of great looking waitress. After the game, we walked around Parque Lleras, checked out Gusto and a few other clubs. Eventually, I think 2 of my friends found a girl but I was super tired and went back to airbnb to sleep. Quality was definitely better in Medellin then Cartagena through.

Day Five. One of my friend needed to exchange money, so we went to the mall. (The exchange rate at the airport was 3200, but I used ATM card for cash the whole trip. I did bring cash just in case but it was not needed.) We grub some lunch at the mall and 3 of us headed to central too look around. I was pretty sure I wasn't going to pick anyone up at central, because I hate short time hotel and I can't speak a word of Spanish, so I would have to take out my phone to translate. However, One of my friend had his phone out the whole time taking pictures, but I didn't really feel particularly unsafe. I did see one or two pretty ones at central but I wasn't sure if they are just regular people living in the area since they are moving, so I didn't approach, plus one of them look underage. It is worth exploring through, and I will be back when my Spanish is better. Night time, I schedule with a girl I met on facebook Luis and she said she has friends for my friends. I know people told me on this forum that its a terrible idea to have a group, but of course I didn't listen. Her friends looked pretty and I wasn't thinking with my head, at least not the right head. She showed up with 3 friends who looked nothing like the pictures and we were stuck in a situation of how to get rid of them. To be fair, the facebook girl looked like her pictures, but I just didn't want to bother at that point. We eventually sent them on their way but it was a costly mistake. We went to Don Diablo after for steak. Steak wasn't great but I was told by my friend that the ribs were great. I had a girl setup from facebook to show up that day, we were message the whole day but 2 hour before our appointment, she went silent and I was just too lazy to go out to look for one, so I called a day.

Day Six. Two of my friend wanted to go hiking at Pan de Azucar. I really didn't want to and I set up to have the facebook girl that flake yesterday to come over. She didn't show again, but that was my excuses to not go hiking. Me and my other friend went to check out Eros Spa. These spa are super hidden with no sign in the door and looks like a residential area. Thanks to the Medellin I download from the forum, we were able to find it. It was about 2 pm but still around 15 girls there. I didn't see anything I like but my friend picked a girl there. I forgot how much it was in the spa but it was cheaper then I expected. My friend turns out really liked the girl at the spa and asked her to come out later, I think he was quoted 450 for 7 hours. We then try to find some poker. Casino Hollywood had 1 table going, 4 pm to around 1 am. Casino Rio said they have people playing later, but that turn out to be not true. We were going to head out to dinner to Mondongo, but the front desk at our airbnb suggested Restaurante La Matriarca for Colombia food, so off we went. On the way, we pass by Parque Lleras and this pretty young girl approach me with her friends. I ask if she want to join us for dinner, she said not hungry, lets just go to your hotel. That was my first red flag, but I wasnt thinking at the time, so I ask her for whatsap and she told me, her phone is broken but I can take down her friends number. She then quoted 700 mil for all nighter rate and off we went to dinner, I know this was high but I am terrible at haggling and we were going to eat and I wanted someone to come along. At the restaurant I was trying to be nice, so I told her if she needed to message her friend, she can use my phone. She then proceed to use my phone, the whole night chatting with her friends. She also order some shrimp and squeezed probably 5 whole lime into it, she gave me a taste and it was so sour. I think I lost a few tooth. When we got back to the airbnb, she ask if she can put on some music, which was fine by me. However, she changes sound 3 times, during our session and answered whatsap twice on my phone. YES, During our session. I sent her out right after and this was the only one I didn't have stay the night. She message the next day, asking if I want to see her again.

Day Seven. We meet up with Victor, the taxi driver we meet at the airport and went to Guntape. He quote 100 usd for the whole trip, and I think it was a great deal. He drove us to everything we wanted to see, walked us around. Gave good suggestion for foods to eat. When we came back, my friend wanted to tip him 100 usd. I told him a 100% is crazy, but he refuse to back down and wanted to pay with his money. Eventually we tipped him 200 mil peso, but he was Victor was very grateful. When we got back, I some how tried to schedule with the facebook girl that flake on me twice, yes I am stubborn and dumb at times. She did show up this time and everything went great. She is so super flaking that I am not sure if I wanted to see her again. My friends went to La Isla this night.

Last Day. We woke up ready for our antigen test. The airbnb was able to schedule a nurse to come give us the test and she show up exactly on time. When it was one of my friends turn for the test, the nurse ask if he had drugs up his nose. He said no, but we were all dumbfounded with the question. Turns out the girl he picked up at La Isla gave him some pink powder to try but he was afraid to admitted to the nurse. Still no idea what it is but luckily his covid test came back negative, but he was shook up the whole day.

Final through, There is really no Asian's in Colombia, I saw probably a handful during the 8 days I was there. Medellin weather is amazing. You can get by with no Spanish but you really don't want to. One night I walk out to grub my friend some bandage, because he cut his finger and I didn't bring my phone. When I got to the pharmacy, the pharmacist can't understand my hand gesture for bandage, luckily there was an expat their to help me out. Also, trying to use google translate on a phone, to read the menu on another phone looks super dumb. I am now working on my Spanish and planning a return trip to Medellin in October.

MarquisdeSade1
07-22-21, 02:13
You can get by with no Spanish but you really don't want to..Touche'.

Its analogous to eating a sooper fat steak, you could probably do it without any teeth? But I don't suggest it.

BlackThought
07-22-21, 02:33
might prefer to shop behind the curtain of the portal one is using.

Speaking of curtains, I think its funny, in some of the casas in MDE, they have a curtain the putas hide behind, be careful.

If there's a dood sitting to see the viewing they don't want to go with they won't come out and you won't see them either jajajajaja.Speaking from first-hand experience? This one actually sounds plausible.

BlackThought
07-22-21, 04:02
Last Day. We woke up ready for our antigen test. The airbnb was able to schedule a nurse to come give us the test and she show up exactly on time. When it was one of my friends turn for the test, the nurse ask if he had drugs up his nose. He said no, but we were all dumbfounded with the question. Turns out the girl he picked up at La Isla gave him some pink powder to try but he was afraid to admitted to the nurse. Still no idea what it is but luckily his covid test came back negative, but he was shook up the whole day.Pink powder drug is called tussi (2 cb), Colombians prefer tussi over cocaine. It feels a bit like ecstasy mixed with ketamine.