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MongerHunger
09-06-21, 15:15
Any recommendations for a second hotel or other room to bring girls. Could be as needed, or for the duration.
Like to get recommendations in El Centro, that is at the minimum, Venezuelan friendly, clean and with hot water.
Also, would like something something similar in Laureles.
Haven't partaken Venezuelans, because many of them don't have acceptable ID. I think most secure establishments only accept Cedula Extraa or Unexpired passport with entry stamp. Lot of venies don't have that. So a second location might come in handy, and also, I think is generally safer, as I can keep my stuff in the primary location.
If anyone does this strategy consistently, I would like to hear their thoughts, and how to optimize it.
Thanks.Hotel Nutibara El Centro.
Any recommendations for a second hotel or other room to bring girls. Could be as needed, or for the duration.
Like to get recommendations in El Centro, that is at the minimum, Venezuelan friendly, clean and with hot water.
Also, would like something something similar in Laureles.
Haven't partaken Venezuelans, because many of them don't have acceptable ID. I think most secure establishments only accept Cedula Extraa or Unexpired passport with entry stamp. Lot of venies don't have that. So a second location might come in handy, and also, I think is generally safer, as I can keep my stuff in the primary location.
If anyone does this strategy consistently, I would like to hear their thoughts, and how to optimize it.
Thanks.A couple of things to ponder about all the Venezuelans in Centro and ID's. First off, your correct, there are lot's of them there without ID's whether it be Cedulas or a Passport. However this is not a concern for the locals, which have to be I'm guessing over 98% of their clients, and the locals don't fall under USA laws, meaning it being illegal for a USA citizen going with someone under 18 anywhere in the world which your aware of.
When I am in El Centro I see so many young girls working that I will not even get near them, albeit there fair game for the locals which is their client base versus foreigners.
The majority of the love hotels in El Centro do not check ID's. The exception though are the Hotels that are licensed to have foreigners overnight. So as an example, I have a friend here who has not been able to take a Venezuelan without an ID to the Premium Plaza because of their licensing, yet all of the girls working in Centro when they have no ID know of hotels that will let them in without it.
So getting back to what you want to do. Smart move to have a safe and secure primary place to have all your stuff. When you hit El Centro and you find someone you like with no ID, and feel comfortable that she is of legal age, she will be able to direct you where to go, albeit whether there is hot water you will have to ask. There are some real dives you don't want to go into, but all of the girls will know where to go or they wouldn't be out there working.
Another poster sent me a message about how I handle myself in El Centro when girls whether they be Colombians or Vennies don't have an ID. And as I mentioned, if they appear young I pass, albeit there are a lot of guys in El Centro that go with them, as these girls know where to go, but I will not. The mongers that do this, and there are a lot of them doing it down there, are playing with fire.
I have also had girls that have ID's, but appear young, which raises the question whether perhaps it's a phony ID. In this case, I always take them to Premium Plaza because they are very stringent in checking ID's and recording everything, and better at spotting a fake ID than a foreigner.
I hope this helps.
You can register over the Internet. You do need a cedula or passport number but you don't have to show it to anybody.Good information, but when I bought one of my girls a cheap smart phone a week ago they were unable to register it over the Internet for her, so she had to go in person.
The Tall Man
09-06-21, 16:57
I was in Centro for couple of hours in the morning did not find any. Have a flight tomorrow evening. Will try my luck for last time I. My life in morning again else I think my fantasy will always remain a fantasy.
Go to centro tomorrow, theres a tan morena girl about 5'10 5 months pregnant with blondish short hair. She's like 22 and gives great head. She stand in front of the church by the fountain everyday can't miss her. I have fucked her when she wasnt preg last year and again last week. She is much hornier now. HaThe Tall Man always enjoys the preggos, just in the past month I have had 3, one Vennie and the other two Colombians, one was at 8 months, another was at 7 months and the 3rd at 4 months (a costena from Barranquilla) and they were all fun and can't wait until they hatch their baby's so I can enjoy milking them which is another delight of mine.
Love the swollen tummies with swollen titties and the best part of all is the swollen and puffy pussy, I can and do spend time just enjoying the beautiful preggo bodies as they lye next to me in bed, sweet mother of jesus this in itself is such a turn on.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.
MarquisdeSade1
09-06-21, 17:13
Whatsapp really goes by the phone and partially by the number. You need the number to activate it, but after that it just goes by the phone. You can put a SIM with a different number in and out of that phone as many times as you want to, but the Whatsapp stays with the original number. It is not deactivated until you either put another SIM in and activate whatsapp with that number, or someone else gets a SIM for that number and they activate it on their phone.
With Line you just have to have your account (screen name and password) and activate it on a particular phone. No phone number is needed.
Of course you will have to have all of your data previously backed up on both platforms to see anything old.They ask me to verify the number, but that is not possible, because they are sending a code via sms and the sim is inactive.
With Line I dropped the fone and shattered the screen and can't use it to sign in, the account wasn't backed up with an email address because I didn't know that was even an option or would be necessary.
I emailed them and they told me to "open a new acct".
"With Line you just have to have your account (screen name and password) and activate it on a particular phone. No phone number is needed." this won't work?
I can't tell from your question exactly what's going on, it almost sounds like you've got family or legit business in your primary room which means these two rooms must not cross. The reason I say that is because the best set up for mongering in both rooms is two rooms in the same hotel. One in the front, one in the back, different floors, different stairwells. The most common misconception is that you need different hotels and worse, far apart. The closer the better. But if you're at risk of end of marriage or end of job if you get caught then I would not recommend same hotel.
You know there are Love Motels, right? You usually pay for a block of time like 3 hours. I was in one yesterday in Bello. 30 mil COP for 3 hours. I know a great Love Motel within walking distance of El Centro that is clean, safe, secure, hot water, etc. It is caddy-corner off the left front corner of Simon Bolivar Parque but if you need the exact location PM me. There are a lot of short time motels in El Centro itself used by the putas but you should here from the El Centro Rat Gang on those, I'm not up to date on that. I was there today, but did not partake. I saw a short time hotel that is literally the closest one to the front of the Vera Cruz church, if you are facing the church, it's on the left, I can't remember the name but I have never heard it mentioned here, I think it was the "Real"? Anywho, it had more putas hanging out at the entrance and spilling down the stairs than any other hotel I saw there today, albeit it was a Sunday. Do any of you Rats know what hotel I am talking about?Thanks, good info.
No, it's not because of marriage or job. I just figured, I will have my primary as my safe zone where I can leave stuff safely and don't need to hide it when putas come over. I think two rooms in the same hotel or apartments would be convenient, but only down side is spending the same amount of money for the fuck pad. Yes, I know about the love motels, and have used a few, but they are all over the place. Some just check the girls cedula and they are cool, some didn't want to rent the room once they saw me, as I am a foreigner. Also, some don't let Venezuelans in.
I think the Centro hotel you are talking about is the premier plaza. It's balcony is right off ground zero. Never used it, but it has been talked about here.
SoberHans69
09-06-21, 18:38
Going to be in Medellin from 12th of this month to 26th, hopefully longer.
Is anyone else going to be there during that time. Would be great to meet up with some of you lot and buy you a drink to say thanks for all the great info you provide.
Would be great if someone could show me the mongering scene in El Centro too. Would happily get you a few drinks and a ST with a SW or casa girl in return.
Just wondering about precautions As far as drugging. Would it make sense to tell the security not to let the girl out without confirming with you first,. Or that you will Walk the girls downstairs and if you're not there not to let them go. Is any of that in any way doable?
Just wondering about precautions As far as drugging. Would it make sense to tell the security not to let the girl out without confirming with you first,. Or that you will Walk the girls downstairs and if you're not there not to let them go. Is any of that in any way doable?You might not need to be too paranoid about it. If the girl is coming to your place and there is a portero and they take her cedula and record or copy the document (which is what they do at San Peter and Hotel Dorado) the girl is already aware that there is. Record of her presence and I've never heard of a drugging incident in either of these places.
The majority of the drugging incidents happen at a bar or an apartment without any security presence.
Another possibility if you are overly concerned is Thematic Luxury on Avenida 33 or Thematic Hotel on Calle 51. Those places check ID but when you go to your room they electronically lock the door. In order to get out, you have to call the desk, they check the mini-bar for any charges and then buzz the door open. If the guy doesn't call they won't open until they speak to him.
Has anyone stayed at Hotel Calle Real near the Veracruz church? Thinking about staying there in the near future.
I would suggest asking the hotel if there is a safe in the room. I don't stay in el Centro but I always require one wherever I go. I also bring my laptop with a lock. Girls are checked electronically for their IDs and I get a phone call when they leave from security as a check. Again, I don't stay in el Centro so things could and are different. Also, may sound silly but verify that the safe works. The only time I stayed in el Centro non of the safes worked and that was in a frequently recommended hotel.
Thanks, good info.
No, it's not because of marriage or job. I just figured, I will have my primary as my safe zone where I can leave stuff safely and don't need to hide it when putas come over. I think two rooms in the same hotel or apartments would be convenient, but only down side is spending the same amount of money for the fuck pad. Yes, I know about the love motels, and have used a few, but they are all over the place. Some just check the girls cedula and they are cool, some didn't want to rent the room once they saw me, as I am a foreigner. Also, some don't let Venezuelans in.
I think the Centro hotel you are talking about is the premier plaza. It's balcony is right off ground zero. Never used it, but it has been talked about here..
BigButtDetecto
09-06-21, 22:56
Has anyone stayed at Hotel Calle Real near the Veracruz church? Thinking about staying there in the near future.I booked a room during the day; I stayed in another hotel at night. I was wary of roaches and noise; they have basic rooms with TV hot water and bathroom. Very welcoming at the reception. It is also in the middle of our favorite hobby. They allow visitors with a small fee.
HappyShiva
09-07-21, 00:45
Just wondering about precautions As far as drugging. Would it make sense to tell the security not to let the girl out without confirming with you first,. Or that you will Walk the girls downstairs and if you're not there not to let them go. Is any of that in any way doable?It is very likely that the street walkers when you bring them to your room, will drug or rob you and I would suggest, not to offer any drink or food to the girl or do not drink with her despite of staying in secured hotel or Air BNB. When a girl have an intent to rob you, she always have a get away car waiting for her downstairs. The police do not have resources to catch petty thieves despite of you have her cedula information. Naïve mongers often fall in love and becomes a target.
...Another possibility if you are overly concerned is Thematic Luxury on Avenida 33 or Thematic Hotel on Calle 51. Those places check ID but when you go to your room they electronically lock the door. In order to get out, you have to call the desk, they check the mini-bar for any charges and then buzz the door open. If the guy doesn't call they won't open until they speak to him.Are these the short time love motels? If so, one would need to incur additional cost.
The Tall Man always enjoys the preggos, just in the past month I have had 3, one Vennie and the other two Colombians, one was at 8 months, another was at 7 months and the 3rd at 4 months (a costena from Barranquilla) and they were all fun and can't wait until they hatch their baby's so I can enjoy milking them which is another delight of mine.
Love the swollen tummies with swollen titties and the best part of all is the swollen and puffy pussy, I can and do spend time just enjoying the beautiful preggo bodies as they lye next to me in bed, sweet mother of jesus this in itself is such a turn on.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.In my experience, the sex drive of a woman while she is pregnant can change in either direction, at random, depending on the chica. I'm not saying it changes back and forth during the pregnancy, I mean it will increase or decrease depending on the girl. Not that it matters terribly when mongering, but some chicas love sex a lot more and some a lot less when pregnant and I've never been able make rhyme or reason out of it.
I knew of one girl who the only time she ever orgasmed in her life was when she was pregnant. And yes, the fat puffy pussy of pregnancy is tighter and softer at the same time, which is a delicious combination. Hormones. And you and I mentioned before, pregnant pussies can be pretty wet. In fact, the all-time by far goopiest pussy I ever encountered was an inner-city 7-8 months pregnant ghetto PYT in Harrisburg, PA. I think I could filled a quart container in about 15 minutes from scraping her inner thighs and from what was coming out of her poontang right after she did her first reveal. Ostee Out.
Great long day in El Centro today with Catgirl, mi Numero Uno Novia. If I have the energy later I will post it, but if it's a choice between banging her and posting, guess what wins. That's her in the track suit we picked up today off a street vendor in El Centro. Top quality. Under $12. I love shopping on the streets in El Centro. There are some great values and I call Colombia the King of the Counterfeiters. I've seen a commercial retail outlet in El Centro that will put any brand monagram you want, Nike, Adidas, Givenchy, Gucci, etc. While you wait on any of the apparels they have for sale in the store. And the stuff looks first rate. Sometimes better than the original. Most of the original luxury labels are being farmed out anyway and Colombia happens to take pride in their knock offs. There is some shit for quality out there, so you have to use discretion. Raybans are a great example. If you find the right vendor, the have counterfeit Rayban sunglasses that are indistinguishable from the original for a tenth or less of the price. Hinges, lenses, monograms, everything. Like I said, there is crap too. I never see the real good stuff near Ground Zero. Those retail blocks that start behind the Nutibara and run parallel to the metro heading towards San Antonio. That's where the good shit is. I bought reading glasses there today two for 10 mil COP that were 12 mil COP for one pair in El Centro, in other words, less than half the price for walking a few city blocks. Ostee Out.
It is very likely that the street walkers when you bring them to your room, will drug or rob you and I would suggest, not to offer any drink or food to the girl or do not drink with her despite of staying in secured hotel or Air BNB. When a girl have an intent to rob you, she always have a get away car waiting for her downstairs. The police do not have resources to catch petty thieves despite of you have her cedula information. Nave mongers often fall in love and becomes a target.No. It's not very likely streetwalkers will drug and rob you when they come to your room. I would say it's extremely unlikely for a streetwalker to do that. Here's why:
Streetwalkers deal with several customers every day, usually working in the same area. Most of their customers are locals, who aren't worth drugging and robbing. Hardly worth using 50 k worth of drugs to steal 60 k.
The people who they have caught who were drugging and robbing people were working on Tinder. If you think about it, it makes sense. Girls working on Tinder are anonymous. They have a chance to choose their targets and make sure they are worth robbing.
While you might want to be wary of the streetwalkers working in Parque Lleras, the typical El Centro streetwalker probably isn't a threat.
Are these the short time love motels? If so, one would need to incur additional cost.Yes they are short term love hotels but the Thematics are very expensive (roughtly 50-60 mil) but very upscale and nice. You would never need to use one if your hotel or apartment rental has a portero that takes a girls cedula and takes a picture or records the information. That lets the girl know that she won't get away with drugging the guy or something like that. I specifically threw these love-hotels out as an option if a guy is staying in a place that doesn't have security.
Litmus Smut
09-07-21, 03:15
I would like the ask this forum of men a question of etiquette. About how good or bad it would be perceived by the "friend" being asked about another girl, and the likelihood of success.
Recently I watched a video of a man walking up and down and around Veracruz and Plaza Botero. In a few videos of his, there has been a very curvaceous, voluptuous black woman. Caught my eye and I figured during my upcoming trip, that's a woman I would like to see with my own eyes and very, very likely bang her. In the passed couple months, he passed that way and it was 50/50 that the black woman was there, so my guess is that's kinda her spot.
On one, and only one, video there was another woman -- my guess is Colombian based on completion, hair, and facial features -- that was hands down stunning. They seemed to be acquaintances, minimum but also a guess. Never seen the Latina on a video before or after, but he hasn't traveled that way path again either since that one time.
I understand there is some disdain for these guys filming SWs. They turn away from the camera when they see guys like that. Or, I heard, they give him some grief. So, flashing a picture would be received in what way? So, Question 1 is if the black woman is there, I definitely want to give her a try; give her business and enjoy my time. However, if I screenshot a moment in the video that does well to show the Latina and ask if she knows the Latina, and can arrange a meeting. How would that be perceived? Bad? Ok? Maybe not welcomed, but. Acceptable? Done with enthusiasm and she'll make coffee while she makes calls?
Question 2 closely relates. Assuming they are friends, maybe just professional peers, would one SW help send business to another SW? What's that chance of there being a referral? Like, from 0 being hollered at and run off to 5 with her being totally cool with it.
Guess who had a little spare time tonight? Had a great plan that I believed in after feedback from this board last night. Big man. Take back the iPhone. Buy her a cheap burner phone. Show her who's boss. Yeah.
She comes early, super early for a Colombiana, 9 AM. Puts her lips on my dick before I ever get out of bed. Spreads her pussy open in a couple of different positions. Does that thang that she does better than all the others. Gets inside my head.
We get high afterwards. Go to El Centro. I buy her a nice new mid-range Huawei cellular. I repair her iPhone ProMax12. Buy her a nice shoulder bag so the phone doesn't go flying off her moto again. An iPhone watch, a track suit, the accessories to go with the two new cell phones. Fill her moto up with gas and pay to have it detailed and cleaned.
At the end of the day I provide her with her own little stash of the pink shit. She goes home, saying she will return for pizza but then calls and says she is too high to drive the moto back. The shit was strong, strongest I've seen this trip and I warned her a few times. She has to meet a repairman in the morning at her apartment where I paid the rent this month. Is she fuckin' a chico tonight? Possible but not probable.
I told her that when she left I knew she would not be back. She writes I love it when you are like this. She sends me a video of her karaokeing a Colombian love song that is sexy as hell.
She has got me right where she wants me, and I am a willing participant. Power of the pussy rules all. She gets screwed back a little. Since she ain't spending the night, I am meeting Soft Swirl at that same Bello Love Motel in the morning. I am getting to be a regular there. And I know a few other chicas up that way who just might want to swing by, jeje. Catgirl and I are muy en sympatico. A good match. We both love sex, know how to manipulate people, are good at what we do and respect the talent of the other. And we are both great liars. Ostee out.
AmoMedellin
09-07-21, 15:46
No. It's not very likely streetwalkers will drug and rob you when they come to your room. I would say it's extremely unlikely for a streetwalker to do that. Here's why:
Streetwalkers deal with several customers every day, usually working in the same area. Most of their customers are locals, who aren't worth drugging and robbing. Hardly worth using 50 k worth of drugs to steal 60 k.
The people who they have caught who were drugging and robbing people were working on Tinder. If you think about it, it makes sense. Girls working on Tinder are anonymous. They have a chance to choose their targets and make sure they are worth robbing.
While you might want to be wary of the streetwalkers working in Parque Lleras, the typical El Centro streetwalker probably isn't a threat.These girls do not think logically, thy just act on impulse, having sex with one she yells out in the middle of the f* mas plata paga mas", that their way of being, and on drugs. Never again I bring home or to a hotel or motel such a creature. Better to help people with in other ways. My female friends paisas helps me a lot since I'm so whimsical with practical issues. And they are poor and are students and children, its better to help friends or how you wish, not only prepagos that on drugs are heartless and it get worse, in the elevator, 2 girls entered and they were so pretty, my 2 sheap prepagos, they seemed so ugly, so I payed them and send them away and felt, Never again bring home such girls, my neighbors must never see me with such people.
Question 2 closely relates. Assuming they are friends, maybe just professional peers, would one SW help send business to another SW? What's that chance of there being a referral? Like, from 0 being hollered at and run off to 5 with her being totally cool with it.A four if you tip her 50 mil COP. One of the overriding principles that I find helpful to keep in my mind with the girls here, everything has a price, or you can get anything you want for the right price. Happy mongering and Keep On Keepin' On!
I flew into Medellin from Guadalajara hoping to have at least a decent experience with the SA girls in this city and enjoy some nice restaurants, as well as some nice weather.
First, my 2 favorite restaurants in Parque Lleras no longer exist! Al Rojo and Baslica are 2 shelled buildings with empty spaces. I have gone to a couple of cool restaurants, Oci.mde and Botanico. The vibe there was pretty good and the food was great. I also have gone to a Korean restaurant, 678 Korean Barbecue, which was average. Their selection of banshan was pretty limited, unlike what you would expect in the US, plus they only give 3 per selection of meat. Another good restaurant that I would recommend is the Mexican restaurant in the new Amsterdam Plaza called La Santa Guadalupe. They are open fairly late compared to the rest of the restaurants near Tesoro Mall.
The hotel I am staying in is the LaQuinta Hotel, which is girl friendly and inexpensive at about $50 a night. Their pool is open, along with the gym. They also include a free breakfast buffet in the bill. It is located in Las Palmas, so if you are into going to Fase Dos or Las Isla, it is a good location. A Carulla is about a couple of blocks away if you need wine and other groceries for the girls, if you are interested in entertaining them as part of your meet and greet. Also there is a decently priced Peruvian restaurant next to the building, along with a Smart Fit that charges about $18 a month. With regards to the weather, it has been awful, with rain on a daily basis. An Uber driver told me that winter usually begins around this time of year. Well coming from Guadalajara, I was hoping it would be sunnier but it has not been the case.
The Seeking girls in Medellin are way cheaper than Guadalajara! The most I have paid is $100. They have ranged from $65 to $100. Most have gone to my room with no problem. There were 2 who broke off the dates, a 19 year old brand new member and another that I had met a year ago. One girl, who goes by Herliana, is bilingual and is a squirter. She asked for $92 per date and ours have lasted for a couple of hours both times. Only 2 girls have provided BBBJ, a 19 year old girl who goes by Ana Sofia and one who goes by Dulcem, who has been the most expensive so far at $100. I have 2 more dates lined up today, so hopefully that amount will increase.
So in terms of price Medellin beats Guadalajara by a mile. However, I have not yet met a Colombian who is as kinky as the Mexican girls that I met in Guadalajara. So in terms of service, I give more kudos to Mexican women. They are definitely more caliente than their fellow Latinas. Hopefully I will find one like them here in Medellin before I go back to Guadalajara.
Mr Enternational
09-07-21, 17:58
The Seeking girls in Medellin are way cheaper than Guadalajara! The most I have paid is $100.Important to remember that just because you pay less in one place than another, does not mean you are getting a deal or even a fair price in the place that you paid less.
Mr Enternational
09-07-21, 18:17
Recently I watched a video of a man walking up and down and around Veracruz and Plaza Botero. In a few videos of his, there has been a very curvaceous, voluptuous black woman.
I understand there is some disdain for these guys filming SWs. They turn away from the camera when they see guys like that. Or, I heard, they give him some grief. So, flashing a picture would be received in what way? However, if I screenshot a moment in the video that does well to show the Latina and ask if she knows the Latina, and can arrange a meeting. How would that be perceived? Good that you came and asked first. Seems you are not aware that the dude is walking around with a hidden spy camera, probably in his glasses or hat. He is not just walking around explicity making videos with a normal camera or phone. If you go around flashing pictures, it will be assumed you were the one that made the secret pictures and you are liable to end up in a hospital suffering from a well beat ass.
I suggest walking around the area to see what is there available at the moment and leave the fantasies of what you saw on your computer screen back at your house where there are not thousands of available women to choose from.
Mr Enternational
09-07-21, 18:21
, not only prepagos that on drugs are heartless and it get worse, in the elevator, 2 girls entered and they were so pretty, my 2 sheap prepagos, they seemed so ugly, so I payed them and send them away and felt, Never again bring home such girls, my neighbors must never see me with such people.LOL. Everyone does not think or see the same. The chick that you saw as drugged out, another monger may perceive that he is flossing with a beauty queen in front of his neighbors.
Good that you came and asked first. Seems you are not aware that the dude is walking around with a hidden spy camera, probably in his glasses or hat. He is not just walking around explicity making videos with a normal camera or phone. If you go around flashing pictures, it will be assumed you were the one that made the secret pictures and you are liable to end up in a hospital suffering from a well beat ass.
I suggest walking around the area to see what is there available at the moment and leave the fantasies of what you saw on your computer screen back at your house where there are not thousands of available women to choose from.Since you were not there, you do not know for certain. Your explanation is a possibility. I have seen people walking around making videos with their phones and even a camera in El Centro.
Mr Enternational
09-07-21, 21:36
Wingman just sent me this post from fakebook:
This woman stole my phone from my apartment. She is on video rushing ahead of my other guests and down the stairs to get out before us while I was trying to get them an Uber with my other phone, and giving them the left over pizza. She told the portero that she had a sick family member, and was allowed to leave before I got to the main floor with the others. This post will be taken down if the phone is returned or it will be left up for good to warn others about her.
Litmus Smut
09-08-21, 00:18
Since you were not there, you do not know for certain. Your explanation is a possibility. I have seen people walking around making videos with their phones and even a camera in El Centro.I've seen both types of videos. Ones openly on gimbles, usually in Llares Park; and ones bouncy and hidden in jackets or a shirt somehow are in and around Veracruz. The direct example I gave was the hidden type. Therefore, I'd be concerned that showing a SW a picture of herself and a colleague would come off like I was a blackmailing detective and would send creepy vibes.
My thoughts are a blend of both opinions. If the sexy black girl is there with no sign of sexy Latina, I'll chat her up, partake in her services AND buy the info from her. Win win win. The only way I'd use the picture is if she is trying to help, but doesn't know whom I am talking about. The screenshot would be used only if there's some doubt and I need some reference. That's what I can think of as a plan.
If it fails, I'll have to compensate by having sex with numerous other sexy girls.
BeachBumCeo
09-08-21, 01:58
Wingman just sent me this post from fakebook:
This woman stole my phone from my apartment.So sorry this happened to you. Thanks for sharing, I hope you get it back.
Conick2000
09-08-21, 04:18
I flew into Medellin from Guadalajara hoping to have at least a decent experience with the SA girls in this city and enjoy some nice restaurants, as well as some nice weather.
First, my 2 favorite restaurants in Parque Lleras no longer exist! Al Rojo and Baslica are 2 shelled buildings with empty spaces. I have gone to a couple of cool restaurants, Oci.mde and Botanico. The vibe there was pretty good and the food was great. I also have gone to a Korean restaurant, 678 Korean Barbecue, which was average. Their selection of banshan was pretty limited, unlike what you would expect in the US, plus they only give 3 per selection of meat. Another good restaurant that I would recommend is the Mexican restaurant in the new Amsterdam Plaza called La Santa Guadalupe. They are open fairly late compared to the rest of the restaurants near Tesoro Mall.
The hotel I am staying in is the LaQuinta Hotel, which is girl friendly and inexpensive at about $50 a night. Their pool is open, along with the gym. They also include a free breakfast buffet in the bill. It is located in Las Palmas, so if you are into going to Fase Dos or Las Isla, it is a good location. A Carulla is about a couple of blocks away if you need wine and other groceries for the girls, if you are interested in entertaining them as part of your meet and greet. Also there is a decently priced Peruvian restaurant next to the building, along with a Smart Fit that charges about $18 a month. With regards to the weather, it has been awful, with rain on a daily basis. An Uber driver told me that winter usually begins around this time of year. Well coming from Guadalajara, I was hoping it would be sunnier but it has not been the case.
The Seeking girls in Medellin are way cheaper than Guadalajara! The most I have paid is $100. They have ranged from $65 to $100. Most have gone to my room with no problem. There were 2 who broke off the dates, a 19 year old brand new member and another that I had met a year ago. One girl, who goes by Herliana, is bilingual and is a squirter. She asked for $92 per date and ours have lasted for a couple of hours both times. Only 2 girls have provided BBBJ, a 19 year old girl who goes by Ana Sofia and one who goes by Dulcem, who has been the most expensive so far at $100. I have 2 more dates lined up today, so hopefully that amount will increase.
So in terms of price Medellin beats Guadalajara by a mile. However, I have not yet met a Colombian who is as kinky as the Mexican girls that I met in Guadalajara. So in terms of service, I give more kudos to Mexican women. They are definitely more caliente than their fellow Latinas. Hopefully I will find one like them here in Medellin before I go back to Guadalajara.How much were you paying in Guadalajara?
How much were you paying in Guadalajara?I was paying the equivalent of $125 to $200 in Mexican pesos. One girl asked for $250 and she wouldn't budged from that when I countered with $200. Medellin is so ridiculously inexpensive in comparison. I had a 19 year old girl this afternoon who provided Bbbj and FS for $65!
Flying in tomorrow have so much fb snatch lined up I'm going to need three ducks. How do you get them down to 150 mil. I keep getting 200 k. Can't to get some cheap in el centro. Got to reward some that have rose with me for two years LOL. I got some non pros wondering when they ask for money. I'm just going to give them 150 for Gp.
I've seen both types of videos. Ones openly on gimbles, usually in Llares Park; and ones bouncy and hidden in jackets or a shirt somehow are in and around Veracruz. The direct example I gave was the hidden type. Therefore, I'd be concerned that showing a SW a picture of herself and a colleague would come off like I was a blackmailing detective and would send creepy vibes.
My thoughts are a blend of both opinions. If the sexy black girl is there with no sign of sexy Latina, I'll chat her up, partake in her services AND buy the info from her. Win win win. The only way I'd use the picture is if she is trying to help, but doesn't know whom I am talking about. The screenshot would be used only if there's some doubt and I need some reference. That's what I can think of as a plan.
If it fails, I'll have to compensate by having sex with numerous other sexy girls.But technically Mr. Enternational was more correct than I because you and he were thinking of hidden cameras, and I was thinking of gimbles.
Flying in tomorrow have so much fb snatch lined up I'm going to need three ducks. How do you get them down to 150 mil. I keep getting 200 k. Can't to get some cheap in el centro. Got to reward some that have rose with me for two years LOL. I got some non pros wondering when they ask for money. I'm just going to give them 150 for Gp.Your post is garbled. Hard to understand. But if you are saying that you agree to 200 and then are planning to pay 150 mil COP. Watch out. There are a ton of reasons why you shouldn't do that but they would be wasted on the type of person who would do that, so I'll save my breath. Let's put it this way, think of your own personal safety. All these girls know someone who will walk up to you and stick and shiv between your ribs that could prove to be fatal for doing something like that. If I misread you, because your post is incomprehensible, then carry on my wayward son, there will be peace when you are done. Kansas.
SoberHans69
09-08-21, 11:50
Does anyone know anywhere in Medellin, preferably in El Poblado where I can get a full panel blood health check up done and also a physio who speaks English? Having trouble with my shoulder / trap when doing any kind of incline pushes.
I will back this Saturday afternoon and was wondering if anyone knows if the asiha spa is under a new name? It was the place a few blocks from San Peter off la 70. If it isn't around, can someone recommend a place close by? I have one of my regulars come see me that night but I wouldn't mind getting warmed up a bit mid afternoon. Thanks.
Regnom3000
09-08-21, 19:40
Does anyone know anywhere in Medellin, preferably in El Poblado where I can get a full panel blood health check up done and also a physio who speaks English? Having trouble with my shoulder / trap when doing any kind of incline pushes.Since I live in Laureles I don't know much about Poblado, but figured I'd send you both my recs in case you wanted to hit 'them.
I get all my blood work done here at Unilab: https://goo.gl/maps/BRpFbJnyybyYP8mL6.
But I'm sure there are spots closer to you that would do the same thing. Search laboratorio or lab in google maps and you'll get a bunch of hits probably closer to you.
Have gone to this physio before - https://goo.gl/maps/127ra4bWhLJXnzYG8.
They have a great doctor there who speaks English pretty well.
You try taking some time off incline pressing? Or switching from barbell to DB? I've done a lot of PT in the past for shoulder stuff and now press from the floor with dumbbells with a lot less pain. Maybe worth a shot.
3 K.
Regnom3000
09-08-21, 19:42
I will back this Saturday afternoon and was wondering if anyone knows if the asiha spa is under a new name? It was the place a few blocks from San Peter off la 70. If it isn't around, can someone recommend a place close by? I have one of my regulars come see me that night but I wouldn't mind getting warmed up a bit mid afternoon. Thanks.Reached out to 'them but haven't heard back. Think temporarily closed. Energy Spa, Eros, and Tantra are all in that general area in Laureles.
Flying in tomorrow have so much fb snatch lined up I'm going to need three ducks. How do you get them down to 150 mil. I keep getting 200 k. Can't to get some cheap in el centro. Got to reward some that have rose with me for two years LOL. I got some non pros wondering when they ask for money. I'm just going to give them 150 for Gp.As Osteo said, if you agree to 200 mil, don't change the deal on them. That's a mean (and dangerous) thing to do. The only time you could do something like that is if she shows up with a smelly pussy infection or full-blown period (in which case you would be justified sending her away and giving her significantly less).
FWIW if you're talking with Facebook girls that have worked the Gringo circuit for a while, 200 mil is pretty standard these days. Maybe 150 k + taxi.
If you want to find less expensive, you need to somehow connect with ones that haven't been popular with us Gringos for too long. Once they meet too many foreigners, their rates go up. And frequently their quality of service goes down.
You definitely deserve to get the crap beat out of you for pulling a stupid stunt like that. Her boyfriend or amigos will be looking for you. I would point you out to them for such a scum bag move.
Flying in tomorrow have so much fb snatch lined up I'm going to
need three ducks. How do you get them down to 150 mil. I keep getting 200 k. Can't to get some cheap in el centro. Got to reward some that have rose with me for two years LOL. I got some non pros wondering when they ask for money. I'm just going to give them 150 for Gp.
As Osteo said, if you agree to 200 mil, don't change the deal on them. That's a mean (and dangerous) thing to do. The only time you could do something like that is if she shows up with a smelly pussy infection or full-blown period (in which case you would be justified sending her away and giving her significantly less).
FWIW if you're talking with Facebook girls that have worked the Gringo circuit for a while, 200 mil is pretty standard these days. Maybe 150 k + taxi.
If you want to find less expensive, you need to somehow connect with ones that haven't been popular with us Gringos for too long. Once they meet too many foreigners, their rates go up. And frequently their quality of service goes down.I was going to say this before, too. If a lousy $13 USD or 50 mil COP is the difference between you being with a chica or not, then don't come. I am not being insensitive to guys on a budget, but do not hold theses chicas' feets to the fire over such a paltry amount. If that is how you are thinking, then you are not ready to be here, plain and simple. You will create bad karma for yourself at the very least, and at the most end up dead. These are some of the most loving people I have ever encountered in the world. But if you give them reason to step on the wrong side, the dark side, your life here is not worth a plug nickel. I am not kidding you. There are teenagers here who will roll up on you on the back of a moto, pull out a 35 calibre revolver, and put one in the base of your skull with as much thought as you or I would take the garbage out to the curb. The good news is, you will feel no pain, and you won't remember a thing. You will simply no longer exist. I am not kidding. If you can't afford the difference of 50 mil COP for an encounter like that, stay home and save some more pennies, drink less Starbucks, cut down on the cigarettes, drink six beers instead of twelve every night, or become an El Centro Rat and just get it on for 30-50 mil per encounter, plus hotel, lube, incidentals, jajaja. There is nothing wrong with that and I admire those guys. Ostee Out!
I think you missed understood my post on my exuberance did make a sound kind of bad. What I was saying is sometimes the girls act like they don't want money I'm just wondering when she's going to bring it up I didn't say I wouldn't give her money who does that that's disrespectful. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I think you missed understood my post on my exuberance did make a sound kind of bad. What I was saying is sometimes the girls act like they don't want money I'm just wondering when she's going to bring it up I didn't say I wouldn't give her money who does that that's disrespectful. Sorry for the misunderstanding.If that was truly your exuberance then I am truly happy for you. And I guess you proved three minds don't make a right, jajaja. Personally, I like to have the price clearly stated before I get started with a new girl. Specify whether you are including taxi or not in the final amount. I don't predict the amount of tip, but tell her she will get a tip as long as I am happy. Sometimes I add I am easy to please. As long as nothing goes wrong, I tip, starting at 20 mil COP, usually 50 mil COP if I really was happy, and up. But that's just me and a personal decision and not necessary a recommendation. Happy Mongering!
Gratuitous photos from this trip.
ColombiaLover
09-09-21, 00:49
$65 to $100 USD? Yikes, that a lot of money. 250 mil to 380 mil. I hope that's for several hours and some great fucking.
The Seeking girls in Medellin are way cheaper than Guadalajara! The most I have paid is $100. They have ranged from $65 to $100. Most have gone to my room with no problem. There were 2 who broke off the dates, a 19 year old brand new member and another that I had met a year ago. One girl, who goes by Herliana, is bilingual and is a squirter. She asked for $92 per date and ours have lasted for a couple of hours both times. Only 2 girls have provided BBBJ, a 19 year old girl who goes by Ana Sofia and one who goes by Dulcem, who has been the most expensive so far at $100. I have 2 more dates lined up today, so hopefully that amount will increase.
S.
$65 to $100 USD? Yikes, that a lot of money. 250 mil to 380 mil. I hope that's for several hours and some great fucking.A lot of money? Sounds about right to me. Lleras girls are asking 200-300 mil for 1 hour /1 pop of all covered service and most of them won't budge. SA girls provide way better service, they are usually low volume and don't watch the clock. Multiple hour date with SA girl is usually cheaper on both per hour and per fuck basis.
I read some of your stories and I be like ain't nobody that fine in el centro. Met a white looking vinnie with nicest ass in el centro. She short. Paid that 50 for that fine booty. I was holding the lw go for my dime piece wants 350 bow (it's getting crazy out there) got three more trying to slide through but just 200 pesos. Took her number will have her come to the aprtment hock was hot.
ChicagoMan
09-09-21, 03:06
Get a proxy. Problem solved. I have been working "remote" in different countries for 10+ years and have a full paid proxy subscription so all my traffic (phone included) route back through the US.When you route your phone through a proxy in the USA, does it ring with an American ringback?
A lot of money? Sounds about right to me. Lleras girls are asking 200-300 mil for 1 hour /1 pop of all covered service and most of them won't budge. SA girls provide way better service, they are usually low volume and don't watch the clock. Multiple hour date with SA girl is usually cheaper on both per hour and per fuck basis.Where are these girls asking for 200-300 mil in Lleras? I've been looking on websites like mileroticos and propedos. The range is usually 80-200 mil whether they are VIP or not. These sound like some expensive Cartagena prices. I get the 150 mil+50 mil for taxi, but I can't wrap my head around 250+ as a base price based on what I've been reading in this forum.
I'm not saying I can't pay that or that I have a budget, just why when there's other options just as good, if not better, at a lower price? Or maybe I'm wrong and my reasoning is flawed somewhere?
GeneHickman
09-09-21, 04:32
A lot of money? Sounds about right to me. Lleras girls are asking 200-300 mil for 1 hour /1 pop of all covered service and most of them won't budge. SA girls provide way better service, they are usually low volume and don't watch the clock. Multiple hour date with SA girl is usually cheaper on both per hour and per fuck basis.First disclaimer, anyone can pay what they want. I believe that.
That being said this is a board people come for mongering intel. So it's important to be as accurate as possible.
First of all why does anyone discuss prices in $US in Colombia? The currency of legal tender is pesos. It's straight up naive to be discussing anything in $US. Let's just say it can cause other risks on top of inflating the price for you. For the low volume SA believers, I will use the same Ana Sofia cited as an example. If it's the same Ana Sofia on SA I am thinking, she is on FB as Lisdey Santillana and one or two other aliases. $100 was what Sundevil paid. On FB she charged 200 mil early 2020. On SA she quoted me 250 mil after some chit chat a few weeks ago. Herliana I took to dinner in provenza, afterwards she swore up and down she is not a puta and then gave me a price 400mil. Jajaja. Having sessioned earlier that day and with one of my regulars coming for breakfast, I was not feeling it and I passed. Even so I will not say SA is a puta site.
The truth is there are all sorts on there. Putas, sugar babies, girls looking to make a little quick money on the side, and even believe it or not some looking for a serious relationship. That is the reason you get all these differing opinions. They are all partly true. I personally concluded ironically SA is like Centro. There is the occasional diamond in the rough to be had, but you need to weed out a lot including scammers to get to that, especially if you are picky like me. But if you land the jackpot, looks, attitude, performance and $ expectations, it can feel very worthwhile. Having searched on it 3 separate months when I had some time, and trimmed my list down, I did not find a single one that met all these criteria together. My yardstick being a few trusty FB girls who I session with every time I am there. So each person will find their style in Medellin after some trial and error and a few trips or atleast one long trip. There is just no other way to figure it out sitting stateside. What you can do is gather intel to plan your trip safely and experiment with these options. Even finding the right airbnb or hotel can be a learning experience.
It's however truly the most versatile place you can find. Heck some mongers have reported picking girls up in malls and other such random places and I wouldn't doubt it as paisas are some of the most friendly and open minded people you can come across. If you are young, have good looks and know Spanish well and can dance, and not here for just a few days then frankly you should be able to pick up girls here.
I decided to partake into a non SA endeavor for old times sake and went to Loutron. The facility is still in the same spotless location. The cost was 330 mil and I chose a girl named Rebecca. The same women who worked manning the cash register are still there. They did not recognize me after about a 2 year long hiatus, plus me wearing a mask did not help.
After the massage and perfunctory performance, I have realized why I keep sticking to SA girls. The Loutron girl would not allow any kissing nor digits in her vagina. How is she supposed to feel her G spot without that? Also during oral, which was covered as usual, she kept examining whether I climaxed or not. After she rode me for a couple of minutes, she hopped off and examined the rubber and declared that I had indeed finished. I was not in the mood to argue, plus I have already seen about 5 SA girls this week, and this encounter was a total turn off and I did not get want to rescue it. I took a shower and got dressed.
There was no small talk involved as well, which I enjoyed with SA girls and the escorts from Montreal and Toronto, who also provide kissing and CIM, as part of their services. I had mainly gone to Canada as part of my mongering adventures during the past couple of years. The services provided in that country by professionals have spoiled me. So no more massage girls for this monger here in Medellin.
no more massage girls for this monger here in Medellin.I totally agree. Loutron is an OK change of pace spot but the service is super mechanical and unremarkable. I had the exact same experience when I was there last week. The location is very nice, and the lineup is above average. I've certainly gotten a lot less for $86, however, you're better off using Tinder, SA, Facebook to get the most bang for your peso.
First disclaimer, anyone can pay what they want. I believe that.
That being said this is a board people come for mongering intel. So it's important to be as accurate as possible.
First of all why does anyone discuss prices in $US in Colombia? The currency of legal tender is pesos. It's straight up naive to be discussing anything in $US. Let's just say it can cause other risks on top of inflating the price for you. For the low volume SA believers, I will use the same Ana Sofia cited as an example. If it's the same Ana Sofia on SA I am thinking, she is on FB as Lisdey Santillana and one or two other aliases. $100 was what Sundevil paid. On FB she charged 200 mil early 2020. On SA she quoted me 250 mil after some chit chat a few weeks ago. Herliana I took to dinner in provenza, afterwards she swore up and down she is not a puta and then gave me a price 400mil. Jajaja. Having sessioned earlier that day and with one of my regulars coming for breakfast, I was not feeling it and I passed. Even so I will not say SA is a puta site. Medellin is the cornucopia, it's got everything for anybody. You can create the model you want here. That's exactly what I did. It works for me but possibly not for you. You can be creative or you can be rigid. Whatever works for you. My gawd tonight Scarlet brought another new friend and it was transcendent in the purest form of the word. It's up to you. Decide your own path. My computer crashed and maybe burned, I am texting (sexting?) this on my cell if it sounds wonky, jajaja. I will even try to post a pic, this is hard! Obvio I love you guys, geez. I hope I didn't put words in your mouth Gene. Try doing this on a Samsung A-50 sometime and get back to me, jajaja.
SoberHans69
09-09-21, 13:04
Since I live in Laureles I don't know much about Poblado, but figured I'd send you both my recs in case you wanted to hit 'them.
I get all my blood work done here at Unilab: https://goo.gl/maps/BRpFbJnyybyYP8mL6.
But I'm sure there are spots closer to you that would do the same thing. Search laboratorio or lab in google maps and you'll get a bunch of hits probably closer to you.
Have gone to this physio before - https://goo.gl/maps/127ra4bWhLJXnzYG8.
They have a great doctor there who speaks English pretty well.
You try taking some time off incline pressing? Or switching from barbell to DB? I've done a lot of PT in the past for shoulder stuff and now press from the floor with dumbbells with a lot less pain. Maybe worth a shot.
3 K.That's brilliant, thank you, really appreciate it.
I will back this Saturday afternoon and was wondering if anyone knows if the asiha spa is under a new name? It was the place a few blocks from San Peter off la 70. If it isn't around, can someone recommend a place close by? I have one of my regulars come see me that night but I wouldn't mind getting warmed up a bit mid afternoon. Thanks.Hotel Dorado La 70.
If that was truly your exuberance then I am truly happy for you. And I guess you proved three minds don't make a right, jajaja. Personally, I like to have the price clearly stated before I get started with a new girl. Specify whether you are including taxi or not in the final amount. I don't predict the amount of tip, but tell her she will get a tip as long as I am happy. Sometimes I add I am easy to please. As long as nothing goes wrong, I tip, starting at 20 mil COP, usually 50 mil COP if I really was happy, and up. But that's just me and a personal decision and not necessary a recommendation. Happy Mongering!
Gratuitous photos from this trip.The waitress in the fries place under my building is cute. She knows a American tourists gettin prepago I assume. If I get her to let me take her out, we sleep together, will she ask cash. I don't want to disrespect her. How do you talk the non pros.
ColombiaLover
09-09-21, 17:32
If she's really a nonpro, she either won't ask or will frame it toward "helping her" with her bills. If a girl is clearly not a prepago, then I don't talk money (so they don't feel I'm trying to imply they are a prepago). Rather, I will give them some cash after we have been together and tell them it is to help her with "her things" or "her bills. " All of that said, I've had girls who expect and want nothing at all. For me, I like to give them something (especially if I don't plan to see them again), so I don't feel like I'm giving them the wrong impression.
The waitress in the fries place under my building is cute. She knows a American tourists gettin prepago I assume. If I get her to let me take her out, we sleep together, will she ask cash. I don't want to disrespect her. How do you talk the non pros.
ColombiaLover
09-09-21, 17:36
You take me for someone who would pay Lleras or Gusto's prices? Jajajajajaj.
You can find plenty of good talent who give great service at less than 200-300 mil. And I'm not talking about casa or centro girls either. If you think what you are paying the SA girls is a good deal, good for you. But you can find low volume, good GFE service girls who are not clock watchers outside of SA and pay less.
A lot of money? Sounds about right to me. Lleras girls are asking 200-300 mil for 1 hour /1 pop of all covered service and most of them won't budge. SA girls provide way better service, they are usually low volume and don't watch the clock. Multiple hour date with SA girl is usually cheaper on both per hour and per fuck basis.
Mr Enternational
09-09-21, 17:42
All of that said, I've had girls who expect and want nothing at all. For me, I like to give them something (especially if I don't plan to see them again), so I don't feel like I'm giving them the wrong impression.So that helps you not feel guilty while helping them feel like you saw them as a hooker? I would feel guilty by treating a chick I knew not to be a hooker like that.
I totally agree. Loutron is an OK change of pace spot but the service is super mechanical and unremarkable. That's Colombia generally, "put on a condom, don't kiss me or mess up my hair, and leche baby. " Most of the discussions here involve finding experiences outside these norms.
the exact same experience when I was there last week. The location is very nice, and the lineup is above average. I've certainly gotten a lot less for $86, Yea you can certainly waste more money in the states, but a blow up doll with a pulse and snippy attitude is always a waste of money.
However, you're better off using Tinder, SA, Facebook to get the most bang for your peso. Careful with Tinder, is where a lot of the drugging are coming from. Facebook can be good, especially if go with the second and third string. The flaking out from the hotter girls is widespread.
If she's really a nonpro, she either won't ask or will frame it toward "helping her" with her bills. If a girl is clearly not a prepago, then I don't talk money (so they don't feel I'm trying to imply they are a prepago). Rather, I will give them some cash after we have been together and tell them it is to help her with "her things" or "her bills. " All of that said, I've had girls who expect and want nothing at all. For me, I like to give them something (especially if I don't plan to see them again), so I don't feel like I'm giving them the wrong impression.Your answer came right on time. A girl I saw two years ago medellin just hit me up and she wants to see me. Now we talk all the time every since I left. So I didn't know how it would be this time. So I asked her would it be for business or pleasure. I explained that Business will be pay her and she go or we do Novia things like eat dinner and hang out. She said that she understood how it was last time and that she wasn't going to ask me for the cash but I know that she needs things here in Columbia. And I read what you said and I gave Heard the answer that yes I'm not paying you I just want to give you money so you can have nice things.
Regnom3000
09-09-21, 20:02
Hotel Dorado La 70.Can you elaborate on this? Like girls at the hotel bar are prepagos? Or this spot also has spa services? Curioso.
Leraldin just came through, with the famous tattoo. Nice and tight!! Nice girl give her a FB call. She ic suede toy taking a thousand after bang photos. While it's cool to see them in your room in the pictures for nostalgia later. What's up with that LOL. She took 15 in my phone and 20 in hers. I wonder if she is trying to get discovered.
The waitress in the fries place under my building is cute. She knows a American tourists gettin prepago I assume. If I get her to let me take her out, we sleep together, will she ask cash. I don't want to disrespect her. How do you talk the non pros.I'm not sure if any one guy can answer that for any other guy. You hit the nail on the head if you focus on respect, every girl wants to feel respected even the putas. You have to go by what's in your heart, your gut and be in the moment. I agree it can be tough in Colombia because you may risk insulting her if you offer her money after or for sex but forget about preconceived notions of money and sex from the United States. For a lot of women here and I'm not talking about prepagos, money equals love. That doesn't mean it has to be a lot of money it just has to be proportional to what you can give. They think if you love them you will share with them. Not automatically but the culture is there. Before I've had sex with a regular girl here I have said, "Obviously you're not a puta but I would love to help you with a gift." Gawd, when I see it written down it looks horrible. I admitted I did it I didn't say it was good, jaja. If at some point you feel like you want to give her some money and she doesn't speak English and you don't speak Spanish just take whatever you want to give her a maybe a hundred and fifty could be more could be less, palm it into her hand gently and repeat the words, "regalo, regalo, regalo. " That word means gift.
This could have absolutely no bearing on your situation or your personality but I have often found this old saying to be true, If you can make a girl smile she will hold your hand if you can make her laugh she will follow you up the stairs to the bedroom. Happy hunting.
I just got back from Bogota and am already planning a trip back to Colombia in the next 2 weeks or so. I want to go back to Bogota and also visit Medellin, Barranquilla and San Andres island. I can speak good enough Spanish that I feel comfortable travelling around the country alone but its not perfect by any means I would like to meet a girl who can speak at least basic English. I know they exist. Where is the best places to look in Bogota and Medellin?
This is a hotel across from SanPeter. It is not a spa nor does it have working girls. I asked for a spa near San Peter and Shamester responded with that. Probably thought I was looking for a hotel near San Peter?
Can you elaborate on this? Like girls at the hotel bar are prepagos? Or this spot also has spa services? Curioso..
I have given money to non hookers as well. The people in Colombia struggle for things we take for granted. It is definitely appreciated
So that helps you not feel guilty while helping them feel like you saw them as a hooker? I would feel guilty by treating a chick I knew not to be a hooker like that..
Psicologo2007
09-10-21, 02:54
Medellin seems to have been recovering from the restrictions of the Pandemic. Now there are many options and girls available. Parque Lleras became ridiculous. There are many many women walking around. The only problem I saw is that they are asking for no less than 300 thousand Colombian money. I think this is an exaggeration because the girls are not the seem 8 or 9 that used to be in this area. Gustos continues being a good spot to pick 8 or 9. The price is still a little high adding the liquor which is really highly priced. I think this is not for everyone. The party is ok but if you come with a group of friends that are really ready to party and drink like crazy. I visited some Salas in the area and encounter a pretty new spot that has as a manager a well known woman in the business in Medellin. Apparently she opened up her own place and it is now trying to catch up with customers and girls. When I went there there were 7 women. One of them was a 9, beautiful sweet Venezuelan girl. Wendy is her name. There was another one little thing that was very hot and flirtatious. I think her name was Martin, and a couple more that were hot friendly and ready to jump to bed. In general was a calm place, nice clean, rooms were also pretty comfy and showers inside the rooms. The price was 90 thousand Colombian pesos one hour and 60 thousand Colombian pesos half an hour. The girls ask for extra if you want something like oral sex bare skin, or if you want anal. I had a good GE with Wendy. Beer was 5 K Colombian pesos and half a bottle of local rum was 50 k. I found this a good place, they even had a VIP room with pole dance. Once you texted them in wassapp they add and send you status updates with current girls and sometimes mini clips. +57312XXXX516 the name of place is called Aventura and it is around the Centro area.
Try a few of the places in Centro. It seems the more you pay in a casa in Medellin the less you get.
I decided to partake into a non SA endeavor for old times sake and went to Loutron. The facility is still in the same spotless location. The cost was 330 mil and I chose a girl named Rebecca. The same women who worked manning the cash register are still there. They did not recognize me after about a 2 year long hiatus, plus me wearing a mask did not help.
After the massage and perfunctory performance, I have realized why I keep sticking to SA girls. The Loutron girl would not allow any kissing nor digits in her vagina. How is she supposed to feel her G spot without that? Also during oral, which was covered as usual, she kept examining whether I climaxed or not. After she rode me for a couple of minutes, she hopped off and examined the rubber and declared that I had indeed finished. I was not in the mood to argue, plus I have already seen about 5 SA girls this week, and this encounter was a total turn off and I did not get want to rescue it. I took a shower and got dressed.
There was no small talk involved as well, which I enjoyed with SA girls and the escorts from Montreal and Toronto, who also provide kissing and CIM, as part of their services. I had mainly gone to Canada as part of my mongering adventures during the past couple of years. The services provided in that country by professionals have spoiled me. So no more massage girls for this monger here in Medellin.
Get you ass down here on the double. Booty is every where!129395;129395;129395;.
ColombiaLover
09-10-21, 03:28
I don't know what they think, because I can't read their minds. But I have never had a girl react negatively. They typically seem grateful. To me, if you give them money because you chose to do so. And she never asked for money. And there was never any discussion / agreement about money before the date. You are not treating her like a hooker. I never want a chica to think that I am trying to trick her into fucking me for free. I have had many non-pros in Medellin who I have not paid, although perhaps we ate or had a drink. Some others I have helped with some money, particularly if I get the impression they need it. I will also give a little money if a chica seems to be looking for something more serious and committed and I'm not. Because I would never want to think that I was some way misleading her just to fuck her. And, yes, that makes me feel better.
Just because you help someone with money, IMO, does not necessarily mean you are treating her like a hooker. But everyone looks at it differently. I honestly have gravitated more towards non-pros and have been very happy with them. On occasion, I see a prepago I've seen before or will try a prepago who's new to the game, but that's not my bread and butter any more.
So that helps you not feel guilty while helping them feel like you saw them as a hooker? I would feel guilty by treating a chick I knew not to be a hooker like that.
Mr Enternational
09-10-21, 03:28
I have given money to non hookers as well. The people in Colombia struggle for things we take for granted. It is definitely appreciated.Likewise, I struggle for things that Jeff Bezos takes for granted. What if a non-hooker (as was another poster's experience) picks you up in a Mercedes. Are you still giving money to her?
But everyone looks at it differently. Out of curiosity, do you give similar amount of money to women that you don't have sex with or Colombia men that are poor?
Let me try to understand this. A non-hooker picks me up in Medellin driving her mercedes. Well I guess I would not give her any money because obviously she doesn't need it. Does this describe the typical paisa? Driving around in her mercedes? Are you that out of touch or just plain insensitive?
Likewise, I struggle for things that Jeff Bezos takes for granted. What if a non-hooker (as was another poster's experience) picks you up in a Mercedes. Are you still giving money to her?.
A couple of days ago I was thinking about this while I was standing at the intersection of San Juan Boulevard and Avenida 70. What would I say to a girl here in Medellin if I had one quick shot, a brief moment to say one thing to see if I can get her to come back to my room and fuck? As if in passing on a crosswalk, jaja. I came up with this. "Would you like to be my girlfriend for 2 hours?" En Espanol, "Te gustara ser mi novia durante 2 horas?" This is probably premature exposition because it has not been field tested yet. As always, I would love to get feedback. Suggestions, and modifications welcome. Brillante.
A success rate of 30% would be incredible and I believe possible, here.
Its an interesting conversation alright.
Giving money FOR sex is obviously prostitution. No doubt there are many grey areas which some of you have already mentioned. One way to get around it is to give small and frequent amounts of money. That way you break the connection between money and sex.
Another observation worthy of consideration is that many Colombians FK each other for fun. Doesn't matter if they are poor or not. So chicas will FK for fun if they are in to you. So really there is no moral obligation. Rather, I think it is a moral virtue. . And there are many morally virtuous acts, so I don't think we need to lose sleep over not giving a girl money for sex. I think the strength of the "crime" is only in the minds of those that feel guilty. And perhaps the interesting question is to understand why they feel guilty. Curious.
Mr Enternational
09-10-21, 05:31
Let me try to understand this. A non-hooker picks me up in Medellin driving her mercedes. Well I guess I would not give her any money because obviously she doesn't need it. Does this describe the typical paisa? Driving around in her mercedes? Are you that out of touch or just plain insensitive?Neither. I just tend to treat normal people as normal people, and not charity cases. Everybody needs money. Because a person drives a Mercedes is not saying they don't need money. They have to pay the car note, gas, insurance, food, and any other bill that they may have.
I am just trying to see where the line is as how to discern who to give money to and who not. A few weeks ago a chick in Bogota that owns a salon and a food truck picked me up in her Chevrolet. Should I have given her money after we fucked or even if we would not have fucked?
Maybe these, as you put it, "struggling people in Colombia that definitely appreciate it" are only the ones that we get to stick our dicks into.
Its an interesting conversation alright.
Giving money FOR sex is obviously prostitutionIs it really so obvious? Does a so-called trophy wife in the United States who marries a rich man for his money, is she by your definition a prostitute? And once you start trying to use moral virtues as part of the definition that is a very slippery slope because morality and virtues are very cultural to which you also alluded. I think there's a lot of different valid opinions because these scenarios almost have to be considered on a case-by-case basis. There's really no generalities that cover all the situations.
I just got back from my 7th trip to Tijuana and as always it is great. I have now decided to try see Medellin for the very first time. I will be going solo in October and so far I have gathered some info. I have a highly secure Airbnb booked that scans girls ID's Etc. TBH the only thing I'm worried about is getting drugged because I'm going solo. Advice? I'll be seeing Lleras park girls, FB girls, Gusto girls also.
Psicologo2007
09-10-21, 06:37
You take me for someone who would pay Lleras or Gusto's prices? Jajajajajaj.
You can find plenty of good talent who give great service at less than 200-300 mil. And I'm not talking about casa or centro girls either. If you think what you are paying the SA girls is a good deal, good for you. But you can find low volume, good GFE service girls who are not clock watchers outside of SA and pay less.I agree with you. Last trip to Colombia I visited I new place called Aventura located near University of Antioquia. This is Centro area. Nice place and had two beautiful 8 or 9. I went with Wendy hot girl and just for a small tip she gave me the best oral sex bare skin. She also was good riding my cock. Just 90 K Colombian peso. Plus a small tip 40 k Colombian peso +57312XXXX516.
CollegeKidJay
09-10-21, 08:00
So I've previously spent a lot of time in Asia -- Vietnam, China and Thailand in college during internships and after for vacation all of which I went solo. All of which I have also blacked the fuck out in from partying to hard. I understand Colombia is a bit of a different beast versus Asia but I figure it's time to knock it off the bucket list. Spanish level is about the same as talking to a 2.5-3 year old Colombian child and I'll be there for 10 days or so 2 of which I'll half ass working remotely. Let me also mention, but who gives a shit anyways; I'm 28 years old work for big pay in big tech company. Lockdowns been rough so I gained a few lbs but who the shit didn't. I'd give my self a rating but that shits kinda gay so I'll just say probably slightly above average, but still 5'8 so knock off 1 point there on the scale. I started prowling these boards for some information so I don't get killed or pick up a tranny or some shit. Yes you have convinced me from browsing this forum not to continue the streak and blackout in Medellin. Although I cannot make any promises because there's a less than 1% chance I'm turning down the cocaina if offered -- oh, and covid lockdown has turned my once golden crown jewel of a liver against me from not drinking for a year so will probably get hammered after a few shots.
Anyways in preparation after I decided to impulsively buy a ticket for no god damn reason I have done the following:
-Booked a $100+ a night apartment, probably more than I ever should pay in Medellin, but fuck it I wanted a balcony in Poblado and a god damn jacuzzi. Plus I can flex a bit and show the hoes on whatsapp I've got a fucking jacuzzi in my room.
-Made a FB from scratch; lots of shit there so far just kind of lazy to deal with messaging, google translating and the effort of creeping every possible hoe. Maybe I'm not good at this or finding these girls here but these 6-7's don't seem to be worth the effort and that FB contact list takes 9 years for them to accept a friend request.
-Looked through all the prepagos sites and it seems okay I guess but I'm always sketched about these. Tried looking up strip clubs, casas but got overwhelmed and didn't know where the fuck to look or start so I gave up.
-Bought Colombian Cupid subscription and I haven't really used it much to be honest. So nothing to say about this shit so far besides you get every variety from fugly to 10. Pretty sure this is a more local way of online dating so it hasn't been anything crazy; with effort I feel like magic can happen here but I like the next two since I literally do nothing and my phone notifications are going through the fucking roof.
-Bought Tinder Gold applied a few boosts and BAM. Shit's a fucking gold mine so far matching with dozens of 7-10's, throw in a few 6's just in case cause they just seem kinda fun, and the occasional accidental tranny from swiping right to goddamn fast. Seems about 1/4 are throwing out the "Yo busco amigas con beneficios" which from the few wrinkles I was able to muster in my brain, I pieced together as, "give me your fucking gringo money and ill let you touch me". Realistically, I've lined up enough dates to cover more than my 10 days can accommodate so I'm kinda just stringing along a plan b, c, d, E, F, G, H, I, J if all else fails. Don't plan to put to much effort into the probably-not-going to-get-laid-on-the-first-date-girls but there's a lot of downtime on vacation for 10 days in the city and since I fly solo when travelling having friends or tour guides is always a plus during the daytime when I'm bored as shit waiting for nighttime shenanigans.
-Bought a fucking $99 SA account for the month and Jesus Christ you fucks have made this easy to find girls on this site. I had a Medellin girl show me the dudes I'd be competing with on that site and wow, I look like Brad Pitt in a sea of fucking Steve Buscemi's. Not many younger guys on SA so I play the "It's my first time I don't normally do this type of thing" card and it gets them every time -- or maybe that's the reverse psychology and their already plotting my demise. Regardless I haven't done shit and I'm getting nude WhatsApp video calls each night one of the girls I plan on seeing. She. "allegedly" claims to be in school and works at some call center or some shit but has already taken 10 days off for my arrival. This is where I think I fucked up because I got a reservation at El Cielo which is a Michelin Star restaurant ($250 ish for 2? Maybe? I hope? Will find out I guess but once again fuck it cause that shit would be 3-4 x the price at a Michelin star in the states) and a Glamping trip at some overpriced bubble-hotel-thingy by that big rock I have no desire to climb up an hour away from MDE and promised to take her. She's meeting me at the airport when I arrive and plans on staying at my apartment a few nights (she said the entire time but no chance I'll settle for one piece when I'm in a goddamn steak buffet) but there's been zero talk of money exchanges with her and she tells me all this shit about dating and future shit that it's kind of scaring me; but I've got no experience with chicks here so I just assume they've got the typical Latina clingy trait. Yes -- I'm also checking every nook-and-fucking-cranny for red flags because it's a goddamn sugar daddy site so I assume she's just wanting to experience the fancy shit and will try to milk every drop while she can since that's how the game is played. I extended my trip and got a later departing date and after I told her she offered me to stay at her apartment so I don't have to book another pad since I planned on leaving earlier. Most others are pretty forward with the business approach quoting me 150-200 k by the hour and like 600-800 k for a planned overnight. Some quoted the Americano dollars and from the advice on these boards I politely told them to piss off. The others are window shopping or new to this type of game and these are the ones I'm hitting up. They are seemingly surprised when I tell them I'm not looking for sex (LOL), but instead a tour guide to show me around and that I can take on a date since all you fucks are going balls to the wall right away with it offering the dinero within the first few messages. Hit them with my Whatsapp cause I'm lazy and can't copy paste the entire message into google translate from SA and show them videos of where I work and the nerdy computer engineering shit I do; then they get impressed and start getting sentimental and shit. Show them my apartment I booked and reservation for two at El Cielo (which is taken but they don't know that) oddly none of these girls have asked yet about business transactions but all want to see me so I'm riding this boat until it sinks.
So with that. I am once again asking for your wisdom and mongering-support, ISG, in my time of need for support and advice on what the fuck to do because I don't have any idea of where to go, where to party, what are the nightclub girls like, where the good strip clubs are or casas. Am I missing anything. I'll probably be getting VIP tables at clubs and trying to live lavish for these 10 days so I assume will put a fat ass target on me -- so I give myself a medium-high probability of getting robbed but I've got an old shitter iphone on me as a dud so I'll rock the two phones gang in case that does happen. I'll be in Poblado / Laurales mainly; I'm not not dumb enough to wander El Centro at night on a solo trip so I'll probably go sightseeing during the day at least once. If I make it back alive, or once my ransom is paid off I'll report back and let you know how this shit pans out.
Let me try to understand this. A non-hooker picks me up in Medellin driving her mercedes. Well I guess I would not give her any money because obviously she doesn't need it. Does this describe the typical paisa? Driving around in her mercedes? Are you that out of touch or just plain insensitive?.Maybe a specific example would help.
My former roommate, who was and still is a webcam model. If you happened to run into her at a bar, if you managed to catch her eye, if you played it right and she was in the right mood, there's a chance you would end up in bed with her. In the morning, if you tried to give her money, you would be dealing with a screaming, little bundle of unrestrained violence.
His point is, at least to me, that if a woman accepts money from you after sex, you weren't dealing with a non-pro. Everyone can rationalize it however they want, but if she takes the money instead of getting offended, you misunderstood the situation from the beginning.
HappyShiva
09-10-21, 13:08
Neither. I just tend to treat normal people as normal people, and not charity cases. Everybody needs money. Because a person drives a Mercedes is not saying they don't need money. They have to pay the car note, gas, insurance, food, and any other bill that they may have.
I am just trying to see where the line is as how to discern who to give money to and who not. A few weeks ago a chick in Bogota that owns a salon and a food truck picked me up in her Chevrolet. Should I have given her money after we fucked or even if we would not have fucked?
Maybe these, as you put it, "struggling people in Colombia that definitely appreciate it" are only the ones that we get to stick our dicks into.I think, it is selfish for a man not to give money or gift to a stranger woman after fucking regardless what she drives or owns. I mostly monger with women from Cupid in their mid 30's, and after seeing them for few days, I take them to the mall, buy something or give them money so they can buy few things. During my last visit one woman from cupid, a school teacher accompanied me to San Andres for 3 days and I paid her apartment rent that was only $250 USD.
I just got back from Bogota and am already planning a trip back to Colombia in the next 2 weeks or so. I want to go back to Bogota and also visit Medellin, Barranquilla and San Andres island. I can speak good enough Spanish that I feel comfortable travelling around the country alone but its not perfect by any means I would like to meet a girl who can speak at least basic English. I know they exist. Where is the best places to look in Bogota and Medellin?Put an English ad in a local site.
There's seems to be a risk to being drugged / robbed even if your intentions are to just date / meet people. Well I don't smoke, drink, or do any drugs. So my current plan is to get a place in Laurales. I have no interest in using tinder or Fb based on stories I read. I'm thinking about renting a bike and exploring places like el Centro. There's not a lot of talk on providers from online escorts sites. Why is that?
The legend in his own mind, jaja. I'll be down in El Centro today looking for that little brunette miniature to check out the size of her hole and that Prego blonde in front of the church for a bareback blowjob. You can't miss me I'm six foot four and the spitting image of Tom Selleck. I wish. I'm the man with the long curly hair, loud colorful shirt on and then Nike track pants. Tell me your screen name and I'll buy you a beer. Or just stare from a distance, but I don't bite. Ostee out!
Litmus Smut
09-10-21, 17:12
I think, it is selfish for a man not to give money or gift to a stranger woman after fucking regardless what she drives or owns. I mostly monger with women from Cupid in their mid 30's, and after seeing them for few days, I take them to the mall, buy something or give them money so they can buy few things. During my last visit one woman from cupid, a school teacher accompanied me to San Andres for 3 days and I paid her apartment rent that was only $250 USD.I can't say I agree or disagree with your approach 100%. It seems you're either dating a prostitute or simping. That's well within what I would consider a gray area. Might be you're just trying to be nice. I think you're comfortable with your approach, but I wouldn't advocate that girls see that as the norm. For tourists that see SA as a break from the bull dating scene in the USA, having a clear, no commitment, just cash per occasion approach is refreshing and desired.
You do you, but make sure that they know you are special and shouldn't expect that from a guy that wants to rampage for a weekend. That said, a weekend warrior should not go and disrupt the ecosystem either by paying high prices and throwing everything out of wack.
Be safe.
JohnnyWalker55
09-10-21, 17:16
So with that. I am once again asking for your wisdom and mongering-support, ISG, in my time of need for support and advice on what the fuck to do because I don't have any idea of where to go, where to party, what are the nightclub girls like, where the good strip clubs are or casas. Am I missing anything. I'll probably be getting VIP tables at clubs and trying to live lavish for these 10 days so I assume will put a fat ass target on me -- so I give myself a medium-high probability of getting robbed but I've got an old shitter iphone on me as a dud so I'll rock the two phones gang in case that does happen. I'll be in Poblado / Laurales mainly; I'm not not dumb enough to wander El Centro at night on a solo trip so I'll probably go sightseeing during the day at least once. If I make it back alive, or once my ransom is paid off I'll report back and let you know how this shit pans out.Hahahhahahahahahaa jesus christ dude, PM me and use the search function on the forum.
Put an English ad in a local site.Which local site is good for placing ad for a monger-friendly lady for local guide and interpreter?
I have checked showaround site but its reviews are not good. Too many fake profiles, locals who do not respond, and requires monthly subscription to contact locals.
When I first came on this Website you would be ostracized, practically a pariah if you even suggested that you spent more money than someone else thought you should on a girl, regular or puta. It's okay! Those who don't, they're okay, too. That's a personal decision and really no one's business but their own. I believe it all evens out and we all pay one way or another in the end. The acid test is if you want to see the girl again, is she willing to see you? If so, then everything is copacetic.
Gawd, it's a perfect day outside right now, the kind of day for which I come here.
All I had to do was mention to Catgirl yesterday that my computer was on the fritz and she came and got me on her Moto and took me to a multi-level mall that was nothing but computer stores inside. Handy novia shite. I'm not saying there's a break even on the novia shite for the moto, but that's not why I did it. I did it because I could and because it made me happy and it made her ridiculously happy.
That modern computer mall is a thing I've seen in many places in the world that I wish they would reproduce in the USA. Shopping enclaves concentrated on all-in-one specialties.
In a way it feels good to be without my computer for a few days although I definitely need one. I find it so easy to get sucked in and often spent too much time on it and online.
I hope I bump into one or more of you guys today in El Centro.
My new little Paisa miniature in the photo with the towel on her head, she can't get enough of the pink powder. I could be seeing her every day. She messages me every morning but it is good to leave them wanting a little more than they get, of the powder, tongue, and dick. I pay her 150 not one peso more, I've taking her out shopping a couple of times, first of all things, nothing extravagant. She stays between 3 and 7 hours with three hole access. We're both happy which is the hallmark of a good deal. Life is good.
Regnom3000
09-10-21, 18:13
If I didn't have to work today I'd take you up on it jaja. Feel like I owe you a beer after all the help. Have fun.
The legend in his own mind, jaja. I'll be down in El Centro today looking for that little brunette miniature to check out the size of her hole and that Prego blonde in front of the church for a bareback blowjob. You can't miss me I'm six foot four and the spitting image of Tom Selleck. I wish. I'm the man with the long curly hair, loud colorful shirt on and then Nike track pants. Tell me your screen name and I'll buy you a beer. Or just stare from a distance, but I don't bite. Ostee out!
if a woman accepts money from you after sex, you weren't dealing with a non-pro. Everyone can rationalize it however they want, but if she takes the money insteady of getting offended, you misunderstood the situation from the beginning.She describes a possible scenario and maybe even a probable scenario but not one that covers every single situation. I would stake my reputation, the value of which is debatable, that I have given money to girls after sex when it was the first time they ever took money for sex. Possibly I was delusional but not every single time, I'm too seasoned and experienced at this game and I read people fairly well.
Simply put, her view is an oversimplification.
As is always the case with these types of opinions you have to consider the source and your source was clearly was an example of selection bias, IMO.
Are you did not say it was your opinion but I am inferring from the way you wrote it that you agreed with her opinion.
Headed out to El Centro now.
I agree with you. Last trip to Colombia I visited I new place called Aventura located near University of Antioquia. This is Centro area. Nice place and had two beautiful 8 or 9. I went with Wendy hot girl and just for a small tip she gave me the best oral sex bare skin. She also was good riding my cock. Just 90 K Colombian peso. Plus a small tip 40 k Colombian peso +57312XXXX516.Since phone# is xxxx'd out, how to find this place in Aventura mall.
Litmus Smut
09-10-21, 19:27
The idea of paying for sex is just out there now. TikTok, Only Fans, Snap Premium, mom and pop PornHub channels, engaging a pornstar on Twitter. It's just out there like never before. Why the US hasn't legalized prostitution after it legalized weed is beyond me but it's just a matter of time. IMO.
Plus, the exposure of the female nature via female admission, of you study the triumph of actions over words, the growth of the manosphere / MGTOW. If you're still attracted to women after being exposed to all that, you have no choice but to go the route of sexy prostitute (which means I don't have to change the fundamental nature of my character, just be careful of my drink!) or drink till you get beer goggles and hook a land whale.
I very much adore the elegant female form. So much so that I would buy the experience. One thin I realized in my life and the turning point on this matter is, everything I wanted I bought. I never won it. It never fell into my lap. I paid for it. All the efforts to date and marry a dime never amounted to anything, so I decided to skip the line, save the time and buy the experience of having sex with the body types I adore. I'll never marry them, but I'll enjoy their bodies.
Enough with the mediocrity of a prudish 5, a skanky 6, and the blue balling of American strippers. Medellin allows, without legal hang ups, the opportunity, therefore so be it. It beats the lie of Las Vegas, NV.
When I first came on this Website you would be ostracized, practically a pariah if you even suggested that you spent more money than someone else thought you should on a girl, regular or puta. It's okay! Those who don't, they're okay, too. That's a personal decision and really no one's business but their own. I believe it all evens out and we all pay one way or another in the end. The acid test is if you want to see the girl again, is she willing to see you? If so, then everything is copacetic.
Gawd, it's a perfect day outside right now, the kind of day for which I come here.
All I had to do was mention to Catgirl yesterday that my computer was on the fritz and she came and got me on her Moto and took me to a multi-level mall that was nothing but computer stores inside. Handy novia shite. I'm not saying there's a break even on the novia shite for the moto, but that's not why I did it. I did it because I could and because it made me happy and it made her ridiculously happy..
The Tall Man
09-10-21, 20:35
All this talk about Colombian chicas (pro or non-pro, GFE, honesty, puta or not, scams, pesos, looks and beauty factor, dating or friendships or love, blah blah blah, etc) is solely subjective and usually based on one persons perspective and experience so lets keep it real guys.
Here are the guidelines at it's core. Some of these bullet points took me decades to truly understand and appreciate as I have been traveling to Colombia for 25 plus years and now living almost 8 years in Medellin.
If your a know it all or are simply too hard headed then stop reading now and take another 5, 10 or like some guys I know 15 years then after you wise up return to this post and re-read these bullet points:
1. Take nothing and nobody serious.
2. The only honest woman is a prostitute and this is especially true in Colombia.
3. This is their culture, their way of thought process and reasoning abilities, as dark ages as it may seem but they know no different so forget about everything that you learnt.
4. They all think that they are smarter then us, typical of any teenager or early 20's woman any where in the world.
5. It is ALL about the money and the moment that you think anything otherwise your fucked. So stop with the "oh I must be different or special to them" which in your mind somehow elevates you or places you as being more important than the next guy but never forget we are all just another slinging dick and it does not matter our age or looks occupation or how much money we lavish them with.
6. The lower the strata the chica (barrio chicas) the more they lie outright AND the higher the strata the chica is from the only difference is that they have more skill at their dishonesty and are able to be a bit more cleaver at it BUT the culture is to always "gain and play" at whatever the cost.
7. They take no responsibility for anything, this is true for the Colombian chicas and guys, this is their culture and this will never change.
8. They all fuck around, all of them, all the time as this is their culture. I know firsthand as I have been played in years past but now I could care less as I understand how the game is played. Colombian guys will hunt down and do whatever they need to do to get into any chicas pants that they want. They have an art at this and deep down "your special girl" is proud to be the prey as this is normal. Again take nothing serious. My gawd if the walls of my apartment could speak I would be in big trouble as I too have enjoyed playing with chicas that I never imagined I would stoop to in other words the lines that I crossed but I now understand that this is 'normal' so "when in Rome do as the Romans do."
9. When a Colombian chica turns early to mid 20's they have had so much sex with so many guys (and for many of them starting when the were pre-teen) and some other women too that they have become worn down so get it when you can and before they hit about 20, in other words by the grandma age of early to mid 20's. Colombians have one of the highest teenage pregnancy in the world.
10. They change as they hit 20 (spoiled) or so as I have meet many young and fresh non-pro teenagers just starting who were so damn cute and sweet but now 3 or 4 or 5 years later they grace the top spots on Facebook pages and I see them posting pics of their adventures with gringos who take them to Cartagena and San Andreas and Cancun or where ever BUT know this. I have a stash of photos and videos of them from 2 to 5 years ago and the difference is remarkable in terms of plastic surgery and over the top make up and fashion.
11. Have zero expectations, just allow things to happen. I now live every day like this and have an incredible life here in Medellin.
12. Again take no chica serious at anything she says, promises, shows of affection etc rather just enjoy it for what it is.
13. The vast majority of them demands that they have and maintain their independence. This is from generations of the typical Colombian man's dishonesty to them, the irresponsibility and lack of any respect they show for the women.
14. Finally guys, stop over paying them, think about "paying it forward" to the next slinging gringo dick that comes after you in 1 or 2 or 5 years later.
And I will be the first to say that I have come to love the Colombian prostitutes as their honestly is so freeing and I also love the barrio chicas, so much fun.
Much love and respect to all.
The Tall Man.
Is it really so obvious? Does a so-called trophy wife in the United States who marries a rich man for his money, is she by your definition a prostitute? And once you start trying to use moral virtues as part of the definition that is a very slippery slope because morality and virtues are very cultural to which you also alluded. I think there's a lot of different valid opinions because these scenarios almost have to be considered on a case-by-case basis. There's really no generalities that cover all the situations.I'll simplify it for you. Everyone who has sex is a prostitute. We're all doing what we do because we feel we're getting something of value in return. Just for the sake of discussion let's use $100 for the example. If I pay $100 for sex with a woman, it's because I feel that sex with that woman is worth more than $100. She does it because she feels $100 is worth more than not having sex with me. If instead of money it's food and drinks, or flowers, or just a few insincere compliments, it's the same thing, we trade something for something else because we feel we're getting the best end of the deal.
Of course, simplifying it makes it more complicated. In the exchange you have to figure out what the other person expects to get in return for spreading her legs.
More outfall from COVID, just like the Delta variant, we now have a new strain of street walkers roaming around "ground zero" in El Centro.
Up until six months ago there where very few street walkers that where actively looking for gringos, which I'm going to label "gringo hunters", and they are becoming more and more prevalent as a result of mongers paying double, triple, and more than what the locals pay.
Unfortunately with Asia being shut down, I am seeing boatloads of mongers who normally would frequent Thailand and the Philippines showing up in El Centro and upsetting the apple cart.
And lots of these mongers have been over paying, and as a result the girls are now asking for way more money when dealing with a gringo.
The "gringo hunters" are very aggressive, and when they spot a gringo, they give them the google eye, come up to them, and shake their booty around which typically they would not do with a local.
Case in point, and this truly illustrates how bad it is. I at times when I see a candy girl of interest will approach them, hand them 500 Pesos, grab whatever is in the bag, and check the merchandise out. Typically these girls all go to the room and I am usually quoted 20-30 k. Yesterday I saw a candy girl of interest, handed her 500 Pesos, and she asked if I wanted to go to the room and when I asked how much she said 50,000 COP. I was shocked, I laughed at her, told her I wasn't a fool, and good luck and walked way. This candy girl was not actively looking for a gringo, but thru the grapevine the street walkers are aware that the gringos are overpaying and trying to get in on the bounty.
Sometimes I hang opposite the Veracruz Church by the glass passageway and just observe. Very few people know I'm a gringo when my mouth is shut, so I am basically under the radar. What I have observed and witnessed is that the Venezuelans are much more adept as "gringo hunters" than the Colombians, and will come on real strong when a gringo passes by either with eye contact, or coming up to them as I mentioned.
And the problem is, all the new mongers here with no experience here can't believe how cheap it is, and when quoted 60 K or more don't bat an eye at paying that for a rato.
I'm just blowing off some steam based on what I have observed and upon hearing what guys are paying as I don't like what I have become aware of, yet have no control over it.
It wasn't like this six months ago, and I can't wait for Asia to open back up.
Not only so I can go there, but to get all the mongers upsetting the apple cart here out of here, but actually some will stop going to Asia after experiencing what is available here.
There will always be hidden gems to mine in Centro, but there going to be harder to find with the onslaught of mongers arriving.
If I didn't have to work today I'd take you up on it jaja. Feel like I owe you a beer after all the help. Have fun.My bad, I said Nike before. I have both but I'm more of an Adidas guy, more of a LeBron guy. I am here in El Centro. Lots of good-looking trim at first blush.
Went to el centro today after a lap I said let's go to raudal. Woah!! They are stacked over there. One chick was hot and looked seasoned. Thotimus Prime is her name. She could smell my fresh meat and tried to scam me. She was like do you know how much it cost. I said tell me and she was acting funny. So I got onto the forum here searched raudal and get my information 50 for the girl 16 for the room. I told her good try I can't knock your hustle.
Right when I was like F it I'm going to go to "the pig I saw a girl walking towards the area and a black outfit and a big booty. So I walked back over with about two minutes and waited for her to come out and it was probably the best service I had in Columbia for the last three days. She was stacked like Nicki Minaj stacked and look good. Give me a good covert BJ let me hit it from the back it was really nice to me. This may be the end of the FB girls for me. 50 is way better than 250. Even my kind of Novia got mad because I gave her 200 and I didn't give her 20 for the can. Mean we did eat dinner if I come out A pocket almost 100 mill and fun you should at least overlooked it 20 mill I didn't give you. All I know I will be back tomorrow. Milk dog out.
I'll be down in El Centro today looking for that little brunette miniature to check out the size of her hole and that Prego blonde in front of the church for a bareback blowjob. You can't miss me I'm six foot four and the spitting image of Tom Selleck. I wish. I'm the man with the long curly hair, loud colorful shirt on and then Nike track pants. Tell me your screen name and I'll buy you a beer.Ah shame man, If I had known, I would have hooked up with you. I was there earlier today. Lunch time. I didn't see any loudshirt midgets around. If you could give me a little notice I could have done it.
SankarShetty
09-10-21, 22:55
Factory lofts is only letting 3 guests for the entire duration of your stay for free before you start paying additional guest fee. Looks like San peter is the only major GF stay in the area. In July, I checked out Luxury Life apartments. They are clean and super new but require a longer month to month rental. Has anyone stayed at Alori lofts. Any other recommendations?
ColombiaLover
09-10-21, 23:08
I have given someone money without having sex with her (whether that means just hanging out with her or just kissing or just groping. Anything below actual sexual intercourse). Most of the girls I know in Medellin are poor. If I was with a girl who had a great job or who came from strata 5, then I probably would not offer her money.
I don't really hang out with Colombian men. If you do and you give them money, good for you, whether it be for services or not. But I do fund my ex-wife's cousin's tuition at collegio. He has Down's Syndrome and special needs. And I feel good about it. Happy now?
Out of curiosity, do you give similar amount of money to women that you don't have sex with or Colombia men that are poor?
ColombiaLover
09-10-21, 23:24
I can't disagree with almost any of this. I do have one difference of opinion. While many chicas I have seen are all about the money, I have had some who are not. Obviously they are non-pros. Some of them just like to be treated nicely and with respect, the opposite of what Colombian ghetto rats do. That said, "treated nicely" might mean spending a little money on some food or drinks. Or it might not. I really feel like more than a few Colombianas has daddy issues or have other mental issues related to sexual abuse. And they seem to gravitate a guy who is nice to them and shows respect to them. I have had more than a few girls who were with me and never asked for money and it was clear they were not looking for money (so I didn't pay them). They were happy with respectful treatment and a few compliments (which I only give as deserved. Pretty much every chica has something you can compliment honestly). I am 56. I am average in appearance. Yet I have had some great experiences with non-pros. I always ask myself why. Do they like being treated like a lady? Do they like the sincere attention? Do they have a need to be with someone they feel safe with? Do they like to be able to tell their friends they have a gringo friend? Maybe they like the way I satisfy them with oral sex and other things that focus the attention on them and not on me getting off. I'm not saying money is not a primary motivation for most (either money right away or money going forward), but I think there are some exceptions. But you often have to work to find them.
5. It is ALL about the money and the moment that you think anything otherwise your fucked. So stop with the "oh I must be different or special to them" which in your mind somehow elevates you or places you as being more important than the next guy but never forget we are all just another slinging dick and it does not matter our age or looks occupation or how much money we lavish them with.
The Tall Man.
Mojo Bandit
09-10-21, 23:57
When I first came on this Website you would be ostracized, practically a pariah if you even suggested that you spent more money than someone else thought you should on a girl, regular or puta. It's okay! Those who don't, they're okay, too. That's a personal decision and really no one's business but their own. .The reality is that when we jump all over people who we think pay too much. They do not stop paying too much, they just stop admiting that they pay too much. Maybew they even stop posting all together. So then there is no way to know there are people that pay too much because no one wantss to bring it up. Better to know everything that's going on than to not know everythings that going on. People can suggest to other people that they not pay too much but its like leading a horse to water. Does not mean that they are going to drink it.
Regnom3000
09-11-21, 00:36
Went to el centro today after a lap I said let's go to raudal. Woah!! They are stacked over there. One chick was hot and looked seasoned. Thotimus Prime is her name. She could smell my fresh meat and tried to scam me. She was like do you know how much it cost. I said tell me and she was acting funny. So I got onto the forum here searched raudal and get my information 50 for the girl 16 for the room. I told her good try I can't knock your hustle.
Right when I was like F it I'm going to go to "the pig I saw a girl walking towards the area and a black outfit and a big booty. So I walked back over with about two minutes and waited for her to come out and it was probably the best service I had in Columbia for the last three days. She was stacked like Nicki Minaj stacked and look good. Give me a good covert BJ let me hit it from the back it was really nice to me. This may be the end of the FB girls for me. 50 is way better than 250. Even my kind of Novia got mad because I gave her 200 and I didn't give her 20 for the can. Mean we did eat dinner if I come out A pocket almost 100 mill and fun you should at least overlooked it 20 mill I didn't give you. All I know I will be back tomorrow. Milk dog out.Nicki Minaj stacked is my jam. You might have spurred enough inspiration for me to give centro another shot.
RedWaters44
09-11-21, 00:56
So I've previously spent a lot of time in Asia -- Vietnam, China and Thailand in college during internships and after for vacation all of which I went solo. All of which I have also blacked the fuck out in from partying to hard. I understand Colombia is a bit of a different beast versus Asia but I figure it's time to knock it off the bucket list. Spanish level is about the same as talking to a 2.5-3 year old Colombian child and I'll be there for 10 days or so 2 of which I'll half ass working remotely. Let me also mention, but who gives a shit anyways; I'm 28 years old work for big pay in big tech company. Lockdowns been rough so I gained a few lbs but who the shit didn't. I'd give my self a rating but that shits kinda gay so I'll just say probably slightly above average, but still 5'8 so knock off 1 point there on the scale. I started prowling these boards for some information so I don't get killed or pick up a tranny or some shit. Yes you have convinced me from browsing this forum not to continue the streak and blackout in Medellin. Although I cannot make any promises because there's a less than 1% chance I'm turning down the cocaina if offered -- oh, and covid lockdown has turned my once golden crown jewel of a liver against me from not drinking for a year so will probably get hammered after a few shots.
Anyways in preparation after I decided to impulsively buy a ticket for no god damn reason I have done the following:..LOL! I dig it dude. I'm in a very similar situation as you. I haven't been to Medellin yet, but I plan on staying in a similar apartment in El Poblado and will also mostly rely on SA and from there, asking girls if they have any hot friends. Like I said, I haven't been to Medellin yet so wtf do I know compared to the vets on the forum but I don't really see any faults in your plan besides 1) I would never fucking get in a vehicle with anyone who isn't my Uber / Taxi esp. In a foreign country I am not yet familiar with and 2) it doesn't really seem like you've checked if your Airbnb is guest friendly. From my experience, a lot of Airbnb's like the one you've booked aren't, but there are plenty of love hotels in most cities in South America so logistics shouldn't be too big of an issue if bringing guests up to the Airbnb does end up becoming a complicated issue.
Personally, Medellin wouldn't be my first pick as a noob. It is probably the best destination with arguably the most fun forum, but it's just not very noob friendly. My opinion doesn't fucking matter but personally I would start with a 10-14 day trip to So Paulo because truth be told, the Scandallo club just makes things too fucking easy so you have the chance to really take everything in gently since truth be told, the experience can be a little overwhelming. Relax talking with a girl for an hour or 2, slowly take in the atmosphere, and then fuck for 800 Brazilian Real. 3000 are should be a fair amount for her to stay with you for a weekend (and that's probably overpaying). After that I'd do 3 months in Mexico City just because the Seeking Arrangements scene is so unbelievably abundant there and because to me, it seems a little friendlier to tourism. Would also hire a Spanish tutor in CDMX so that when I do get around to visiting Medellin, I would at least be able to make out whether people talking about me plan to kill me or just kidnap me for ransom haha.
BlackThought
09-11-21, 02:43
The reality is that when we jump all over people who we think pay too much. They do not stop paying too much, they just stop admiting that they pay too much. Maybew they even stop posting all together. So then there is no way to know there are people that pay too much because no one wantss to bring it up. Better to know everything that's going on than to not know everythings that going on. People can suggest to other people that they not pay too much but its like leading a horse to water. Does not mean that they are going to drink it.You are absolutely correct. I'm with Ostee, I don't go on monger vacations to haggle over 50 k COP ($13 usd) for some pussy. It's not even worth my time.
Elvis 2008
09-11-21, 02:47
The reality is that when we jump all over people who we think pay too much. They do not stop paying too much, they just stop admiting that they pay too much. Maybew they even stop posting all together. So then there is no way to know there are people that pay too much because no one wantss to bring it up. Better to know everything that's going on than to not know everythings that going on.I would agree with that, but I also think a lot of the problem is the guys bragging about banging on the cheap are not honest about the quality of the women. What is missed in all that is the people who have lived in Colombia have told me that they have not seen the mythical 10 in Centro or Santa Fe. The best they have seen is like an 8.
I posted that I fucked a 10 from seeking / SA named Kiara in my hotel and showed a picture of her. I paid her a $100 and looks wise IMO she was a 10. Yes, I know if I want to accept a more used up twelve men a day woman and fuck in a flea bag motel, I can get it for less. Kiara's problems though were that her attitude was like a 2 and performance was like a 6, and because of her attitude and performance I would not recommend anyone see her. On the forum in public, I get guys saying I overpaid but by PM, a bunch of guys hit me up for her number.
The thing about the culture here that I cannot stand is that everyone is focused on how much money versus the value of the experience. There is value and I will pay more for a woman who is hot, performs well, has a good attitude, and that I can fuck in the comforts of my hotel room versus on a damned massage table.
Just because you are paying less does not mean you are getting a better value. Likewise, if you think my paying a 10 like Kiara a $100 somehow threatens you getting cheap pussy in Centro or Santa Fe, you are out of your fucking mind. She is probably the play thing of some multimillionaire right now getting way more than I paid her.
The common thread of the guys bragging about how little they paid is that their women are stunning, the greatest in bed, but they rarely show pics of said women. Gee, I wonder why. If you tell me you had the best sex of your life on a cardboard bed or massage table, my response to you is that you need to live a little. That is like saying you had the best meal of your life at a fast food restaurant.
I'll simplify it for you. Everyone who has sex is a prostitute. We're all doing whatu we do because we feel we're getting something of value in return. Just for the sake of discussion let's use $100 for the example. If I pay $100 for sex with a woman, it's because I feel that sex with that woman is worth more than $100. She does it because she feels $100 is worth more than not having sex with me. If instead of money it's food and drinks, or flowers, or just a few insincere compliments, it's the same thing, we trade something for something else because we feel we're getting the best end of the deal.
Of course, simplifying it makes it more complicated. In the exchange you have to figure out what the other person expects to get in return for spreading her legs.Similar to saying what I have many times, we all pay one way or another. I overstated my opinion in the title earlier of my response to you when I said I could not disagree more. In reality, your roommate's opinion is correct most of the time. Call me an idealist but I still would like to believe that somewhere out there maybe once or twice a day in the world there are two people who are getting together and having sex and making love for the purest of reasons but who knows? According to you, that's not true. You did not leave any wiggle room. Perhaps that is consistent with your self-confessed cynical outlook and maybe that introduces some bias, who can say?
Sometimes I go back and read what I wrote and I can't believe it myself because I think my answer was pure at the time, but then I see an emotional response. I think most people have a gut reaction at first. However this website has such a lag built into the response time that I sometimes feel like there's a pressure to answer, if you know what I mean.
Mr Enternational
09-11-21, 03:18
Typically these girls all go to the room and I am usually quoted 20-30 k. Yesterday I saw a candy girl of interest, handed her 500 Pesos, and she asked if I wanted to go to the room and when I asked how much she said 50,000 COP. I was shocked, I laughed at her, told her I wasn't a fool, and good luck and walked way.In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."
MarquisdeSade1
09-11-21, 03:26
In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."Don't leave out those fools from Tijuana.
LoveItHere69
09-11-21, 03:41
The legend in his own mind, jaja. I'll be down in El Centro today looking for that little brunette miniature to check out the size of her hole and that Prego blonde in front of the church for a bareback blowjob. You can't miss me I'm six foot four and the spitting image of Tom Selleck. I wish. I'm the man with the long curly hair, loud colorful shirt on and then Nike track pants. Tell me your screen name and I'll buy you a beer. Or just stare from a distance, but I don't bite. Ostee out!Meet the man that actually knows what is happening in Centro. The really short really skinny girl who does not have a pretty face is gone. The one called midget who is not one. She moved to Pereira a month ago with another Centro girl. The other Centro girl returned to Medellin a week later. The super short thin not so pretty face girl liked it there and stayed. I know because I sexed both in Centro and then Pereira. Have seen the one back in Centro, but not the other.
I played with a few street girls in Manizales. Two of them are now in Centro. Small world.
Two guys posted that the girl I sexed twice in Barranquilla was a guy. Well I sexed "her-him" twice again in Santa Marta. Funny how this "guy" turned several guys heads when walking down beach street Santa Marta. "he-She" waited outside my hotel for me. We went to another hotel and had sex. When I walked back to my hotel one of the street vendors gave me a thumbs up for choosing a pretty girl. Small world.
Older sister or friend with a young sexily dressed girl were arrested outside Hotel Bolivar Botero (across from the church). Older girl was upstairs and the younger one was waiting downstairs from what I saw but more could have been happening such as bringing the younger one upstairs. Maybe learn more details tomorrow.
LoveItHere69
09-11-21, 03:51
In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."I love the guys who are not here and thus not know what they are talking about. I left Medellin to tour Manizales, Pereira, Armenia, and Santa Marta for 6-7 weeks. Came back. There are not many new faces at all when I returned. Many of the girls I liked have disappeared or come out 1-2 days only. I have not had much issue with price yet but the attitudes are shit. I have lost 25% of the girls I liked to repeat with. 25% went from "really fun to be with" to "never will see you again". The "new" gringos out here are messing up the prices but especially all the girl's attitudes.
More outfall from COVID, just like the Delta variant, we now have a new strain of street walkers roaming around "ground zero" in El Centro. AbsolutelyFuckinFascinating!
...If instead of money it's food and drinks, or flowers, or just a few insincere compliments, it's the same thing, we trade something for something else because we feel we're getting the best end of the deal.
Of course, simplifying it makes it more complicated. In the exchange you have to figure out what the other person expects to get in return for spreading her legs.Indeed, simple and logical. The bottom line is that we are almost always trading something for something else. In our case, it is money for a piece of ass.
In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."Tru that. I am seeing The Law of Supply and Demand express itself in pure form. I was there today and three times straight up the girls without hesitation quoted me a rate of 40 mil. The room rates seemed to be changing and increasing as the day went by but I couldn't tell for sure because of the incidentals and the last room I had two girls and I was high like I am now and it got confusing. One thing I was not confused about is I had one of the greatest fucking days I ever had in El Centro. If I don't pass out later I will try to post including some photos but Scarlett is already here and that new girl wants to come back and I already gave the go-ahead. She's here. Back to the salt mines, jajaja.
GeneHickman
09-11-21, 05:40
So with that. I am once again asking for your wisdom and mongering-support, ISG, in my time of need for support and advice on what the fuck to do because I don't have any idea of where to go, where to party, what are the nightclub girls like, where the good strip clubs are or casas. Am I missing anything. I'll probably be getting VIP tables at clubs and trying to live lavish for these 10 days so I assume will put a fat ass target on me -- so I give myself a medium-high probability of getting robbed but I've got an old shitter iphone on me as a dud so I'll rock the two phones gang in case that does happen. I'll be in Poblado / Laurales mainly; I'm not not dumb enough to wander El Centro at night on a solo trip so I'll probably go sightseeing during the day at least once. If I make it back alive, or once my ransom is paid off I'll report back and let you know how this shit pans out.Every once in a while there is a post like this from a Greengo like you. For the few that bother to report back it's a big let down and the analysis starts. Save yourself the trouble, RTFF and set you expectations reasonably, plan well, no dar pappaya and ask here for any specific advise after you do all that. If you are in any doubt, read the CTG thread as there was a similar experience from a dubliner who had a crappy experience. Wise up, there is time yet.
El Central was smokin, hot chicas and preggos easily found, natural girls, nice girls, no crimes. I've given up trying to figure out how this shit happens over and over and better and again. This point after a great day going there was nothing on the agenda but when I went home Scarlet in her brain made of Fairly recent made a recurrent Encore visit and like second go-round soften are turned out to be much much better. Scarlett had to go home to take her brother and the new girl who haven't named yet asked if she could spend the night and I said sure but we were so sexually exhausted and fulfilled after that are 3-way which including one new position I had never done before that everyone decided to crawl in their own bed and recover at the end of the night. I'm supposed to meet soft swirl in Bello again tomorrow she canceled last time go to babysitter I had just gotten a covid vaccine shot and she said she's bringing to the girls with her I don't know what the f* is up but like I said, why ask why? Hahjaja this s* is insane I'm doing it all on a Samsung phone I'm starting to want my computer laptop back it sounds wonky but I like it. The photos won't post but I'll add them later they're good.
Personally, Medellin wouldn't be my first pick as a noob. It is probably the best destination with arguably the most fun forum, but it's just not very noob friendly.Medellin to a mongering newbie is like putting a deluxe smorgasbord buffet in front of a starving man.
Nice to hear that we are one of the rockinnest forums on this website.
All this talk about Colombian chicas (pro or non-pro, GFE, honesty, puta or not, scams, pesos, looks and beauty factor, dating or friendships or love, blah blah blah, etc) is solely subjective and usually based on one persons perspective and experience so lets keep it real guys.
Here are the guidelines at it's core. Some of these bullet points took me decades to truly understand and appreciate as I have been traveling to Colombia for 25 plus years and now living almost 8 years in Medellin.
If your a know it all or are simply too hard headed then stop reading now and take another 5, 10 or like some guys I know 15 years then after you wise up return to this post and re-read these bullet points:
1. Take nothing and nobody serious..Good stuff Keep On Keepin' On.
I have given someone money without having sex with her (whether that means just hanging out with her or just kissing or just groping. Anything below actual sexual intercourse). Most of the girls I know in Medellin are poor. If I was with a girl who had a great job or who came from strata 5, then I probably would not offer her money.Thanks, that made it clear. I gave them some money too and most I don't have desire to ever have sex with them.
I would agree with that, but I also think a lot of the problem is the guys bragging about banging on the cheap are not honest about the quality of the women. What is missed in all that is the people who have lived in Colombia have told me that they have not seen the mythical 10 in Centro or Santa Fe. The best they have seen is like an 8....I think it is a mistake to think they don't care about quality. They just focus on different quality. I am in Sao Paulo now. Been to Scandallo several times，it is a let down quality wise in look initially but I have a great time once I get pass that.
Mr Enternational
09-11-21, 13:49
I also think a lot of the problem is the guys bragging about banging on the cheap are not honest about the quality of the women.
I posted that I fucked a 10 from seeking / SA named Kiara in my hotel and showed a picture of her.
The common thread of the guys bragging about how little they paid is that their women are stunning, the greatest in bed, but they rarely show pics of said women. Gee, I wonder why.Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).
Guys like PN and Osteo have shown 1 million pics that they took themselves of the chicks in their reports that they have banged on the cheap. I have posted some as well. If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. There is a guy in another thread that posts everyday about having 5 chicks come over, yet everytime he posts a picture it is from some website and like only 1 time of these supposed chicks actually at his place crowded around a bottle of liquor. Not saying this has anything to do with whether y'all fucked the actually chicks, but one has to wonder why you guys have not been able to take a normal picture of these chicks when you were with them.
HappyShiva
09-11-21, 15:09
Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).
Guys like PN and Osteo have shown 1 million pics that they took themselves of the chicks in their reports that they have banged on the cheap. I have posted some as well. If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. There is a guy in another thread that posts everyday about having 5 chicks come over, yet everytime he posts a picture it is from some website and like only 1 time of these supposed chicks actually at his place crowded around a bottle of liquor. Not saying this has anything to do with whether y'all fucked the actually chicks, but one has to wonder why you guys have not been able to take a normal picture of these chicks when you were with them.I agree. Had a girl from SA paid her 250,000 for OK sex, looks were ok would say 8. After that, First time my friend took me to New Life and I was like a kid in Toys are Us. 25 stunning girls, curvy body for just 45000 for 30 minutes. Believe me, I have to drink a beer to calm myself before I took one to the room. Well I am not saying the it was GF experience in the room, but still sex with CBJ.
HappyShiva
09-11-21, 15:12
Anyone planning Medellin during end of October or November. Its boring to be alone in Medellin.
...The thing about the culture here that I cannot stand is that everyone is focused on how much money versus the value of the experience....In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.
Silvakeviniam
09-11-21, 16:44
In your experiences / opinions what is the safest way to fuck fb girls, agency girls, or any independent girls after dark?
Options are as follows but there definitely may be others, please inform. I'm not on a budget per-say but I am trying to maximize my mongering funds with respect to safety. My current plan is to have my actual hotel in Poblado or Parque Lleras.
1. Invite her to your room in a guest friendly hotel with ID check-in. Does the ID check-in significantly reduce / eliminate the chances of being robbed / drugged in your own room? I've essentially crossed-out airbnbs and apartments for safety reasons.
2. Arrange the date at a love motel. From my research the love motels are all in el centro (is this true?) so I'the cab between there and my actual hotel. I know the love motels are usually short-term but is it practical to do an overnight here?
3. Book a separate hotel entirely. To reduce cost it would probably be in el centro and I wouldn't leave the hotel until morning.
At night, I assume the only other safe mongering option is strip clubs if I cab back and forth.
Thanks for any help!
MarquisdeSade1
09-11-21, 17:15
Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).
Guys like PN and Osteo have shown 1 million pics that they took themselves of the chicks in their reports that they have banged on the cheap. I have posted some as well. If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. There is a guy in another thread that posts everyday about having 5 chicks come over, yet everytime he posts a picture it is from some website and like only 1 time of these supposed chicks actually at his place crowded around a bottle of liquor. Not saying this has anything to do with whether y'all fucked the actually chicks, but one has to wonder why you guys have not been able to take a normal picture of these chicks when you were with them.The putas "problems though were that her attitude was like a 2 and performance was like a 6".
What is that worth to you?
What is that worth to anyone?
SoberHans69
09-11-21, 17:26
Flying to Medellin tomorrow, can't wait. Will stick to Parque Lleras tomorrow then go to El Centro on Monday.
Osteoknot or Surfer if either of you is going to be around El Centro anytime from Monday during the next few weeks, would love to buy you a few drinks to say thanks for your reports.
GeneHickman
09-11-21, 17:32
In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.I agree with this sentiment. And it's for a few reasons. The splash the cash types just think very superficially. It's nothing for me, and I can cut in line and get the best in my limited time. That's not a great way to operate in the mongering world. In mongering intel is nearly as valuable as cash. The stories these chicas tell, esp. to those like Tall man that have woven themselves into the fabric of the city is just plain funny. They do try to warn the mongers on the board but some just don't and won't take heed to their own detriment.
Firstly, if it were not for some value conscious mongers, willingly sharing their intel, I would perhaps not even have discovered Medellin. So once I land to use the wallet to advantage yourself is not in great form. In fact if a monger refers a chica to me, I always ask what is a reasonable price so I know. Secondly, the locals are just not as able to afford the prices we pay, and although they do have home court advantage, the dollar power and what we earn for our time is perhaps an order of magnitude different. Paying near the market rate is being respectful of the local market. Not doing so stokes envy and resentment. I have had more than one convo with local taxi drivers etc. where they talk negatively about the stereotypical weekend warriors.
As an example of how we are clueless about affordability, last month, I was out with my chica and was speaking about how the crepes and waffles ice cream was so good and so cheap. I paid like 4.5mil I think at Santa Fe mall and remember being surprised at the price. In my mind that waffle cone would have been like $5-6 easily back home. She told me that was not cheap. I asked her what a normal ice cream cone costs in her barrio and she said 2mil at most. That was a eye opener for me, even as someone with the mindset to not overspend.
Finally a couple of self serving reasons, the no dar papaya mantra extends beyond bling, it also pertains to not splashing too much cash that can make you a target. Scammers less likely to go after an average target. As a gringo with limited to no Spanish you are already a juicy one, no need to add to that. Lastly and this maybe entirely subjective, but past a certain point in price, I have found a negative correlation between price and service. Money can tempt a girl to come to you buy it can't and won't make her feel like hanging out with you. That depends more on how you are treating her, how comfortable she is with you, and whether she is enjoying herself with you. So if you were paying 150 mil with a girl, and the decision was what to do with he other 150 mil. I personally get more out of spending it on a date with the chica, dinner, movies, dancing or whatever than giving her the 300 mil. I think Osteo said it and the more I thought about it the more I realized it's true, the first date is seldom ever the best one, it's the 3rd and 4th by the time you are getting the best sex. And for me that has meant subsequent trips. I always mix in atleast a couple of new girls to refresh the stack for this reason. My old regulars are however the ones with whom I have the predictably good sex.
Mojo Bandit
09-11-21, 18:02
Anyone have anymore details about this incident? Popped up on FB, Says he was found dead in a hotel. I cannot find a well written story about it. Says he was missing for few days? He could not have been dead that long. He was traveling with friends so it doesn't make sense that he did not contact them for days. Sounds shady as fuck. Like how did the people get into his hotel? Etc etc?
https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay?fbclid=IwAR1mJD438C12eOK7CLN6Ph_JOtncCA_LY15vpx9kURGuipNoYhd4FWAZtP8
According to this Spanish language article his body showed signs of a violent struggle.
https://www.somosfan.com/crimen/felix-jose-almanzar-medellin/79314/
What has surprised everyone is chi as and there honesty. I always get an honest answer. Ask my chica yesterday how may you work with she was honest, you in drugs. Yep. You high right now. Yep LOL. Waiting on bustam.
In the words of the Sosua, Costa Rica, Panama and other crews that are moving in to fuck things up: "It is only $5! I am not going to ruin the mood by haggling over that."Nobody is moving into El Centro to fuck things up, the existing SW's are being corrupted by all the newbie Colombian mongers overpaying. And to put things in perspective, $ 5 USD may be chump change to you and I, but for a Colombian that's almost 20,000 COP which is not chump change.
This is Colombia, not any of the other Countries you listed so we have to think in Colombian Pesos and their value in Colombia, not USD. And when a Chica throws out a wildly inflated price almost double to a newbie Colombian monger, and he accepts it, guess what, news of this travels like wildfire between the walkers and hence that is what I have been noticing as to what has been occurring. I posted about a candy girl the other day quoting me 50 K, when up until about six months ago before the invasion of the newbie mongers, it was typically 20 K.
DzikaBomba
09-11-21, 19:58
More outfall from COVID, just like the Delta variant, we now have a new strain of street walkers roaming around "ground zero" in El Centro.
Up until six months ago there where very few street walkers that where actively looking for gringos, which I'm going to label "gringo hunters", and they are becoming more and more prevalent as a result of mongers paying double, triple, and more than what the locals pay.
Unfortunately with Asia being shut down, I am seeing boatloads of mongers who normally would frequent Thailand and the Philippines showing up in El Centro and upsetting the apple cart.
And lots of these mongers have been over paying, and as a result the girls are now asking for way more money when dealing with a gringo.
The "gringo hunters" are very aggressive, and when they spot a gringo, they give them the google eye, come up to them, and shake their booty around which typically they would not do with a local.
Case in point, and this truly illustrates how bad it is. I at times when I see a candy girl of interest will approach them, hand them 500 Pesos, grab whatever is in the bag, and check the merchandise out. Typically these girls all go to the room and I am usually quoted 20-30 k. Yesterday I saw a candy girl of interest, handed her 500 Pesos, and she asked if I wanted to go to the room and when I asked how much she said 50,000 COP. I was shocked, I laughed at her, told her I wasn't a fool, and good luck and walked way. This candy girl was not actively looking for a gringo, but thru the grapevine the street walkers are aware that the gringos are overpaying and trying to get in on the bounty..I'm going to Medellin in November and I don't want to overpay. I'm more a cheap Charlie and interested in the Centro Girls.
So I'm interested in how much should I pay on average for an average Chica ST in Centro? 30 k?
How much should I pay for extras like BBBJ, BBFS, second round?
I (and I'm sure also others) would like to hear your advice on that. So that I can keep to these prices when I'm there.
In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.You're talking about "rights"? It's a free World. One has the right to pay whatever they want.
Also the vast majority of fellow mongers I've met could afford to give each girl 1 Million pesos or more. Just like they could afford to pay a car dealer sticker + $10,000. I'm not saying that would be a good idea. It wouldn't, and I personally try to not to overpay for multiple reasons.
Of course, mongers that don't want the unknowledgeable hobbyists to ruin a location have the "right" not to share what they know.
There's very little correlation between a monger's wealth and what he pays the chicas. The correlation (negative) is how experienced they are in this hobby.
"Slim. " Homage to Lauren Bacall. I'm trying to repost photos that wouldn't upload last night. Check out the puta I accidentally caught in the left side of the frame in the pharmacy photo, totally at random she's gorgeous and she has my shoes on, jajaja. Yeah I like to post photos that's obvious but I hope it's just as obvious that I'm skimming the mountaintops because when they really good shit gets going down no one is stopping to reach for a camera, it's too much of a distraction at that point basically you get the Prelude and the Afterglow, jaja.
All this talk about Colombian chicas (pro or non-pro, GFE, honesty, puta or not, scams, pesos, looks and beauty factor, dating or friendships or love, blah blah blah, etc) is solely subjective and usually based on one persons perspective and experience so lets keep it real guys.
Here are the guidelines at it's core. Some of these bullet points took me decades to truly understand and appreciate as I have been traveling to Colombia for 25 plus years and now living almost 8 years in Medellin.
If your a know it all or are simply too hard headed then stop reading now and take another 5, 10 or like some guys I know 15 years then after you wise up return to this post and re-read these bullet points
The Tall Man.Your report most definitely belongs in the category for reports of distinction in my book.
I haven't lived here as long as you, yet can totally relate to what your saying based on my personal experiences here over the past five years.
Unfortunately, with the exception of a handful of board members, most of the guidelines you have provide will fall on deaf ears.
Some of your bullet points are very abstract in a sense, with the culture being so different, and at times I say to myself, how can that be, but it is.
Totally mind boggling the culture here as it defies logic.
In your experiences / opinions what is the safest way to fuck fb girls, agency girls, or any independent girls after dark?
Options are as follows but there definitely may be others, please inform. I'm not on a budget per-say but I am trying to maximize my mongering funds with respect to safety. My current plan is to have my actual hotel in Poblado or Parque Lleras.Do you speak any Spanish at all? You won't be "maximizing" your funds by staying in Poblado. Everything there is more expensive. Hotels, food, taxi fares, girls will elevate their price for people staying there" and on top of everything else the traffice from the Northern regions (like Bello) will be a lot longer so you will be waiting more on top of everything else. Try Laureles would be my recommendation.
1. Invite her to your room in a guest friendly hotel with ID check-in. Does the ID check-in significantly reduce / eliminate the chances of being robbed / drugged in your own room? I've essentially crossed-out airbnbs and apartments for safety reasons.Yes if the hotel / apartment takes her ID information (like they do at San Peter or Hotel Dorado) then the girl is essentially on notice that if anything bad happens her information will be passed on to the police. I've never heard of a attack / drugging incident at a hotel that takes their ID information and records / saves it.
2. Arrange the date at a love motel. From my research the love motels are all in el centro (is this true?) so I'the cab between there and my actual hotel. I know the love motels are usually short-term but is it practical to do an overnight here?Absolutely you can go to a short term hotel. And no they are not all in el centro. They are all over. You could try Thematic Luxury on Calle 33 or Thematic on Calle 51. The advantage is that you will be electronically locked in the room and won't be able to leave until they check the mini-bar and the guy calls the desk to initiate the exit. So no girl is going to drug you if she can't get out of the room. You will pay an extra 50-60 mil for using Thematic and that is for 4 hours. I don't know what you will pay for overnight.
3. Book a separate hotel entirely. To reduce cost it would probably be in el centro and I wouldn't leave the hotel until morning.
At night, I assume the only other safe mongering option is strip clubs if I cab back and forth.
Thanks for any help!You can do that too (rent another room in el centro) other options are to go to some of the casas they are all over the place. El centro, Laureles, Belen.
The Tall Man
09-11-21, 20:19
Anyone have anymore details about this incident? Popped up on FB, Says he was found dead in a hotel. I cannot find a well written story about it. Says he was missing for few days? He could not have been dead that long. He was traveling with friends so it doesn't make sense that he did not contact them for days. Sounds shady as fuck. Like how did the people get into his hotel? Etc etc?
https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay?fbclid=IwAR1mJD438C12eOK7CLN6Ph_JOtncCA_LY15vpx9kURGuipNoYhd4FWAZtP8
According to this Spanish language article his body showed signs of a violent struggle.
https://www.somosfan.com/crimen/felix-jose-almanzar-medellin/79314/I saw that same post on FB as you, sad to watch the parents back in New York, really sad for them.
Yes something is amiss with the story. Not much details on the surrounding story so probably another 'weekend warrior" gringo dude with a Bronx NY tough guy attitude comes down to play with the putas, do drugs, drink like a sailor on leave and thinks that bad shit can't happen to him, he was wrong.
RIP.
The Tall Man.
https://youtu.be/KdaRQkbySq4?t=436
Is this the pregnant chick you all been hunting for? Hahaha.
Tru that. I am seeing The Law of Supply and Demand express itself in pure form. I was there today and three times straight up the girls without hesitation quoted me a rate of 40 mil.It's not a "supply and demand" issue, but a corruption of the existing Chicas as a result of the newbie mongers overpaying the girls. Case in point, six months ago before the Country really opened back up, the "rack rate" for lack of a better term was typically 30 mil, but now according to your own account, you got quoted 40 mil.
So what has happened in the last six months to change the pricing?
All the mongers who would typically be in Asia are showing up here, and being newbies, are overpaying.
And it's that simple.
I look forward to when Asia truly opens back up, and will be one of the first one's there. And when this happens, mongering in Medellin will go thru another cycle of changes. With fewer mongers here, prices will drop, no different than earlier this year when there were very few mongers here and a total buyers market.
The "new" gringos out here are messing up the prices but especially all the girl's attitudes.Your right on the mark here.
And God forbid if the Chicas whip out the Tijuana playback and start quoting 20 minutes, 2 positions, and pants off only for 40 K.
ChuchoLoco
09-11-21, 22:27
"Slim. Check out the puta I accidentally caught in the left side of the frame in the pharmacy photo, totally at random she's gorgeous and she has my shoes on.What makes you think or call her a puta? Is every girl you see a puta? Just curious. One way to find out though and why didn't you do it since you are so good at puta hunting?
It's not a "supply and demand" issue, but a corruption of the existing Chicas as a result of the newbie mongers overpaying the girls. Case in point, six months ago before the Country really opened back up, the "rack rate" for lack of a better term was typically 30 mil, but now according to your own account, you got quoted 40 mil.
So what has happened in the last six months to change the pricing?
All the mongers who would typically be in Asia are showing up here, and being newbies, are overpaying.
And it's that simple.
I look forward to when Asia truly opens back up, and will be one of the first one's there. And when this happ6ens, mongering in Medellin will go thru another cycle of changes. With fewer mongers here, prices will drop, no different than earlier this year when there were very few mongers here and a total buyers market.I love it when people agree with me and don't even know it. What you described was price depression during a time when supply exceeded demand and now that demand is putting pressure on supply-side, prices are going up. The only argument you can make is whether or not this is a free market, which not one mongering soul here has ever done.
Talk to me about barriers of entry for putas entering the market or leaving the market or the number of Gringos that are coming in on jet planes or the inelasticity of the market which would actually be a valid point, or that regulations and laws are setting price controls, but otherwise all you're doing is making my point for me and obfuscating the terms.
Thanks for your help, whether intentional or not. Your corruption argument is based on emotion and projection which has nothing to do with price. I said it I don't know how many times here I don't know why no one seems to understand it, the price you pay has nothing to do with setting the price in a free market. Convince me this is not a free-market but nobody has even broached that subject, as I already said above.
I'm not an economist it's not even in my wheelhouse all I did was take a master's-level course 25 years ago and now I'm regurgitating Economics 101. I can't believe there's not one expert on this entire board who can back me up or explain it better than me because obviously I'm doing a lousy job. Somebody help me or at least frame the argument properly. Geez, I'm headed back down to El Centro to do something fun.
It's okay to not be a subject matter expert on every goddamn thing that has to do with anything with Medellin, no one is.
Definitely time for a random gratuitous photo, jaja.
"Slim. " Homage to Lauren Bacall. I'm trying to repost photos that wouldn't upload last night. Check out the puta I accidentally caught in the left side of the frame in the pharmacy photo, totally at random she's gorgeous and she has my shoes on, jajaja. Yeah I like to post photos that's obvious but I hope it's just as obvious that I'm skimming the mountaintops because when they really good shit gets going down no one is stopping to reach for a camera, it's too much of a distraction at that point basically you get the Prelude and the Afterglow, jaja.So let's cut to the chase on this and your foray into Centro.
Looks like you had a female Humpty Dumpty with you in the room for a rato.
How was it, any afterglow after doing the deed with her. LOL.
She wasn't a bareback cream pie girl was she?
If so, I'm going to have to keep an eye out for that one, just my cup of tea! LOL.
Elvis 2008
09-12-21, 00:10
Your arguement can be shitted on very easily. Go down to New Life where the rate is 45,000 and tell me all the chicks are starfish dogs. Then go down to Luna Lunera where the rate is 300,000 and tell me all the chicks are beauty queens that fucked like porno stars. If this is not the case then we can easily conclude that how much you pay does not coincide with how the girl looks or her performance as a hooker (as you put it the quality of the women).What does that have to do with the men being honest here? You are doing your typical rallying cry against a straw man. I have never said money and quality always correlate. In fact, I have said that Alejandra in Santa Fe blew away Kiara for a 1/3 the price.
If I recall correctly, the time that you posted pictures, all of them were from a website or whatsapp, but none that you had taken yourself. So what? She could be totally fake and my point still stands. On the forum I said that I paid a chick like this $100 and people said I overpaid on the public forum but by PM, guys were hitting me up for her number. It is about the honesty of the men on the forum.
The pricing on here is pretty good when it comes to places like clubs and casas where the prices are fixed, but they were terrible when I first went to Santa Fe. I wanted to know what I was doing wrong, and I talked to a local, and he said that what I was seeing and doing was the same as him. I could fuck women on the cheap like guys here brag about in SF as long as I was willing to forget about looks and fuck in a shitty hotel.
I'm going to Medellin in November and I don't want to overpay. I'm more a cheap Charlie and interested in the Centro Girls.
So I'm interested in how much should I pay on average for an average Chica ST in Centro? 30 k?
How much should I pay for extras like BBBJ, BBFS, second round?
I (and I'm sure also others) would like to hear your advice on that. So that I can keep to these prices when I'm there.I'm not sure if any one is interested in my advice, but I will take a shot at it and I know others can better articulate my thoughts on this.
You should not have the mindset of over-paying as this may limit you.
Mongering in Centro is not like other mongering destinations in the World where there are set prices and menus more or less.
In essence, consider mongering in El Centro like the Wild West.
Anything goes, and most of the time all that your asking about is available for a price.
However, what one guy pays a Chica for the services you mentioned, another guy may pay a lot more for or a lot less.
Depends on a lot of factors with lots of variables.
There's been a lot of changes as of lately in El Centro, with the biggest change over the past four years with the onslaught of Venezuelans, and now the onslaught of mongers as a result of the Pandemic.
Pricing for basic covered service should range from as low as 20 K for a very undesirable Chica up to say 40 K for something much better, however six months ago it would of been more like 30 K.
I know of guys in Centro who are getting the 'full monty" for as low as 50 K, and some guys paying a lot more than this.
Again, think in terms of the Wild West in Centro.
Good luck.
Mojo Bandit
09-12-21, 01:54
In your experiences / opinions what is the safest way to fuck fb girls, agency girls, or any independent girls after dark?
Options are as follows but there definitely may be others, please inform. I'm not on a budget per-say but I am trying to maximize my mongering funds with respect to safety. My current plan is to have my actual hotel in Poblado or Parque Lleras.
1. Invite her to your room in a guest friendly hotel with ID check-in. Does the ID check-in significantly reduce / eliminate the chances of being robbed / drugged in your own room? I've essentially crossed-out airbnbs and apartments for safety reasons.
2. Arrange the date at a love motel. From my research the love motels are all in el centro (is this true?) so I'the cab between there and my actual hotel. I know the love motels are usually short-term but is it practical to do an overnight here?
3. Book a separate hotel entirely. To reduce cost it would probably be in el centro and I wouldn't leave the hotel until morning.
At night, I assume the only other safe mongering option is strip clubs if I cab back and forth.
Thanks for any help!Your question is about safely doing outcall girls but you keep mentioning El Centro. If you are doing Outcall girls then just forget about El Centro. If you want to mix in street walkers than by all means go to El Centro but to your basic question what is the safest way to do outcall and FB girls. You covered that in number one. Stay in a reputable building with professional security to check their Cedual (ID) when they come to the building. I am a lazy ass monger period. Last trip I went down to El Centro one time, Parque Lleras a couple of times but I mostly stayed in my apartment and messaged the chicas to come to me and ordered Rappi to eat as much as I went out to eat.
Mojo Bandit
09-12-21, 02:01
I saw that same post on FB as you, sad to watch the parents back in New York, really sad for them.
Yes something is amiss with the story. Not much details on the surrounding story so probably another 'weekend warrior" gringo dude with a Bronx NY tough guy attitude comes down to play with the putas, do drugs, drink like a sailor on leave and thinks that bad shit can't happen to him, he was wrong.
RIP.
The Tall Man.The story says that he went down there with friends and his girlfriend but had an arguement with his girl and wondered off on his own (which makes you wonder if he didn't plan to argue with his girl so he could go find some strange) but the part where he was missing for some days is the part that makes no sense. If he had gone hundreds of there with a bunch of friends who were there too to celebrate his birthday, surely he would not go days without contacting them. The part that bothered me the most was that he was killed in a hotel. That is the worst thing I have heard happen there. I wish I knew what hotel he was found in.
https://bronx.news12.com/bronx-native-found-dead-in-colombia-family-tried-to-convince-him-to-stay?fbclid=IwAR1mJD438C12eOK7CLN6Ph_JOtncCA_LY15vpx9kURGuipNoYhd4FWAZtP8
https://www.somosfan.com/crimen/felix-jose-almanzar-medellin/79314/
All taken within the last 24 hours.
Hit for a little over a week and stayed in Airbnb in Laureles about a 10 minute walk to Tantra and close to Floresta station. Same as always, cool weather, inexpensive, beautiful women. Some guys complaining about to many mongers but why decide to go to a less desirable place just because of that. Just stay of the beaten path a little and it keeps it to a minimum.
Hit Tantra 3 times. 80 k for 45 minutes. Always have been happy with Tantra but last time only about 3 girls so was concerned would eventually not see anything of interest. But now they seem to be back to 10 plus girls so usually 2 or 3 I find attractive. First time cute mature curvy blond. Very good service. 2nd cute girl with a lot of ink including a full back tattoo. Some reason I get nervous that heavy ink means bad attitude but this girl had a great attitude with very physical massage. 3rd time was going to repeat with her but not around so with with very good looking tall girl I think Nicole or something close to that. Thought with her good looks might be subpar but turned out best massage whole trip. Think Tantra is very committed to customer service.
Hit Zandaly 3 times. 80 k for 1 hour. 1st cute brunette with ink and sternum tattoo that was cool. Great service full hour. Went back 2 more times but did not see her again. 2nd time cute thin redhead with heavy ink who was there about 8 months before. She seems really mello walking back to room but once it's on will not stop till hour is up. Last time went with cute Negra but seemed to have least amount of Energy. Funny I said we can cut season short but it almost seems like girls get it trouble if they cut session short.
Was at Conejitas and was crowded and Vitamin V was kicking in so said F it Ill try Chico's Putos which had saved the day several years before after walking out of New Life one Sunday. Now has changed to Armona Spa. 70 k for 1 hour. Over 20 girls on a Friday about 7. Many not good looking but one very cute Vennie that had an Indian look to her. Great attitude and hit that twice. Went back once looking for another cute thin one that was covered in Ink but was not around. Much better to spend a lilttle extra for Zandaly but still a few cute ones if your in a pinch.
Went back to Conejitas since there was a few cute ones. Hit a cute Vennie with some curves to her. 100 k for 45 minutes. My Spanish isn't great so when I asked for change she looked dumbfounded. Mediocre service so will not repeat. Actually liked the artwork in room the best. Cool place if you want to have a few drinks a see a few cute girls along with some girls that could play in NFL.
Hit Casa Energy once. Cute older one with nice curves and good attitude. Funny she was making fun of how many of the other girls had a little extra meat on the bones. Still very nice selection for 140 k for 1 hour.
Also hit New Life once, good selection but just was not feeling it except for the girl that was running the show, should have asked if she was on the menu. Thought Tantra an Zandaly stood out for quality, price, and service.
Member #2001
09-12-21, 03:17
Well, I really need to get back into the game. Been in the states for a few months, and before that in Mexico. Colombia is much better INHO. So I am here. Had myself a cute Vene and took here over to Nutbara. Its where I was staying.
I was super tired because I got in late and stayed out till the early morning hours.
Just had to get to find a girl there though. This girl calls herself Johana. After the dealing with the whole sex thing I took her out for a few beers. Welt to go find a cig and bam, here and her beer were both gone. I just enjoyed the company, I guess. I get it, she has to go back to work. Just wanted to show some respect. Super energetic. Wish I could have performed better. Went to Yakuza. Still there, it has changed a bit with newer girls. One was doable, but I was just too tired. I did get her number, Maybe its fake, don't know. Quoted 50 K A bit much for 30 minutes for me, but to each his own.
Total damage was 50 for an hour.
Ill be looking for that 16 COP place someone here was talking about. My plan is to get a place near Estadio or something like that. Need to check out somewhere I can find a furnished place.
Will try to upload Johanas pic.
What you described was price depression during a time when supply exceeded demand and now that demand is putting pressure on supply-side, prices are going up..This is exactly what's going on. Too many gringos around. Kick them out / close borders, and prices eventually will go down.
What makes you think or call her a puta? Is every girl you see a puta? Just curious. One way to find out though and why didn't you do it since you are so good at puta hunting?I was wondering if someone would make that call. Good job.
What makes you think or call her a puta? Is every girl you see a puta? Just curious. One way to find out though and why didn't you do it since you are so good at puta hunting?I was wondering if someone would make that call. Good job. And your response was more than "just curious."
So what? She could be totally fake and my point still stands. On the forum I said that I paid a chick like this $100 and people said I overpaid on the public forum but by PM, guys were hitting me up for her number. It is about the honesty of the men on the forum.This happens on both sides. It is a percentage. Some people agree with you, some don't. It is the same the other way around.
guys were hitting me up for her number. It is about the honesty of the men on the forum.Has anyone posted any report here to back you up on your point? I am not saying I don't believe you. Just so you see the problem if no one followed up with a report with picture taken themselves. I went to an outcall the other day. Her pictures were beautiful but I asked her for a normal picture without filter or makeup. She sent me one and she looks as good. I am still not totally sold so I asked for a video chat to confirm as her price is high. She said no but I can just leave if I don't like her. I went and was not disappointed. That is the problem with professional done pictures and no report. We basically rarely see reports of pictures about these elusive 10's or high price girls with the exception of Steve Jobs but many think he is not real. There are one or two mentioned but it's the same girls which also implies high mileage.
I am happy to pay for 10's with good service. The question is where do I find them? It should not be hard.
Some of us have seen more pictures and videos than what is posted on this site so we are pretty sure the mongers have a quality time and that has nothing to do with how much the monger spent.
SankarShetty
09-12-21, 13:27
Hit for a little over a week and stayed in Airbnb in Laureles about a 10 minute walk to Tantra and close to Floresta station. Same as always, cool weather, inexpensive, beautiful women. Some guys complaining about to many mongers but why decide to go to a less desirable place just because of that. Just stay of the beaten path a little and it keeps it to a minimum.
Hit Tantra 3 times. 80 k for 45 minutes. Always have been happy with Tantra but last time only about 3 girls so was concerned would eventually not see anything of interest. But now they seem to be back to 10 plus girls so usually 2 or 3 I find attractive. First time cute mature curvy blond. Very good service. 2nd cute girl with a lot of ink including a full back tattoo. Some reason I get nervous that heavy ink means bad attitude but this girl had a great attitude with very physical massage. 3rd time was going to repeat with her but not around so with with very good looking tall girl I think Nicole or something close to that. Thought with her good looks might be subpar but turned out best massage whole trip. Think Tantra is very committed to customer service.
Hit Zandaly 3 times. 80 k for 1 hour. 1st cute brunette with ink and sternum tattoo that was cool. Great service full hour. Went back 2 more times but did not see her again. 2nd time cute thin redhead with heavy ink who was there about 8 months before. She seems really mello walking back to room but once it's on will not stop till hour is up. Last time went with cute Negra but seemed to have least amount of Energy. Funny I said we can cut season short but it almost seems like girls get it trouble if they cut session short..Good report. Thanks for the update.
Where exactly is Tantra located at? Can you also share any info on your airbnb and whether you were able to bring anyone? Was it GF friendly?
That cure Negra in Zandalay always smiles at the line up but is the only bad session I have experienced there. She needs to find another profession IMHO.
There was also a spinner paisa who worked there for the past couple of years, in July, I ran in to her at ammonia spa.
I went to an outcallShould be incall.
Mr Enternational
09-12-21, 14:15
On the forum I said that I paid a chick like this $100 and people said I overpaid on the public forum but by PM, guys were hitting me up for her number. It is about the honesty of the men on the forum.This is saying nothing. On an anonymous website full of horny guys you do not need a picture for guys to hit you up for numbers. All you have to do is say you fucked someone and the vultures will flock. Really weird to me when guys do that. Just because I reported fucking and having a great time, they want in, not knowing whether the chick could be farther from what they find attractive.
Why would you not think guys are being honest in their posts? Maybe you are trying to conflate something as subjective as beauty with honesty, which in the case of beauty would be subjective as well and not absolute. I have hung out with tons of guys from this website. Do you know how many of them were proud to catch a chick that I would not fuck with your dick? They were honest in saying that they were 10's for them, not necessarily what would be 10's for me or you.
I don't read into it when guys write in their reports that a chick was hot or really horny or into it because who knows what their idea of these things are. Maybe you should take the same approach when guys write about fucking the best looking chicks on the planet for cheap.
When I go to a new place, I look for 3 things on ISG: where, when, and how much. I can take it from there and go to search out a chick that is to my personal taste along with adjusting the price. I am not basing my hunting on what other mongers think is attractive. I only look to them to point me in the direction of the pussy. I will work out the rest when I get there.
Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.
August 27th. Friday.
Flew out of Tijuana on Aeromexico and arrived in Medellin around midnight. About 8 hours of flying time with a 2 hour layover in Mexico City. I arrived at the Nutibara hotel around 1:30 AM paying 80 k pesos for a taxi.
Nutibara is an older hotel, historic in it's day, on one end of Plaza Botero in El Centro, (the downtown area). It's fairly basic and staff did not speak English, but it is in a good location for some tourist attractions and for street girls as well as many daytime casas.
Based on reports in this forum, I had some concerns about safety before coming. By day, I would say that the El Centro area is mostly safe and swarming with large numbers of locals. Plenty of people out and about even past night fall for a few hours. Still, in and around El Centro, there are many sketchy looking streets with homeless and trash and although I never witnessed any crime, I had taxi drivers warn me of the petty crime and to keep phones and valuables hidden from sight.
August 28th. Saturday.
Started exploring the local casas following WT 69's map. First stop Yukasa which is just behind the hotel. 4 or 5 girls working at 11 AM. None caught my interest. Seemed like kind of a low end place. Next I looked for Chicas punto com near by on Calle 54. Same location, phone number, and address but now it's called Armonia Spa. WT 69's map showed a Fantasias Erotic massage on the 3rd floor of the same building but that no longer exists.
Armonia Spa was a winner! About 10 chicas, 3 or 4 of which looked quite good to me. Prices were 50 k for half hour and 70 or 80 k for the hour. BBBJ and DFK were extra. My first choice would do BBBJ but was firm on no DFK. Moved on to choice 2. A smoking hot very shapely Venezuelan. Said she was 25 but I would have believed 20 or 22. Though she agreed to DFK that ended up being pretty weak. BBBJ was decent but no CIM. Total damages 100 k for 30 minutes. All in all I was feeling like I was off to a good Medellin start!
I'm a one shot and out kind of guy but I continued my casa tour for educational purposes. Next Stop Zandalay and I walked there in what seemed like not much more than 5 minutes. Same pricing as Armonia and for that matter all the other casas too. 50 k per half hour and 80 k for the hour. Chicas seemed slightly older than at Armonia but for 2 or 3 out of the 5, I might have pulled the trigger on if I wasn't already spent. Next stop was Amigas Sexy which had a nice setup and at least a couple doable chicas. Dulce Compania nearby was next. Only 3-4 available and very low end like Yukasa. Masajes Aife was next. 5 or 6 available and a couple looked alright.
Last stop was New Life. With all the good reviews I was expecting it would be a cut above and perhaps better than Armonia but that was not my impression. Overall I think New Life was over rated but that could be because not a lot was available when I was there either time I visited in late morning, (5-6) and or they had become too popular because this was the one club in which I heard Americans both times.
Around 8 PM Saturday night I hit Barra Ejecutiva close by based on the good reports from Tall Man and others. I liked it there. Talked to a few of the chicas and met most of them at least briefly as they came by to collect contributions after dancing center stage. No problem. I handed out 2 k peso bills like they were candy. (only about 50 cents).
There were about 10 girls in the bar who looked to range in age from 20 to 30. I talked to 2 or 3 of them with my basic Spanish and in general they gave off a more educated and classy vibe than I observed in other bars. Called it a night after that leaving around 9 PM and made the 2-3 minute walk back to the Nutibara. Didn't feel dangerous but I suppose there might have been some risk even though there were still plenty of people out and about.
August 29th. Sunday.
Took an 11 k peso (about 3 dollar), 20 minute taxi drive in the morning to Parque Lleras in Poblado. Was not expecting any action that time of day and didn't find any. But Poblado is a much better ambiance and tourist destination than Centro. Walked around a bit and then did about a 15 minute walk to the Poblado Metro station.
The Metro is an excellent, modern and cheap system although a bit crowded that day. It's about a 15 minute ride from Poblado back to Parque Berrio which is a short walk to Plaza Botero and my hotel but I kept going about 15 minutes more on the Metro to the Acevedo station and then took the Metro Cable gondola like system as it gained a lot of elevation to Santo Domingo where I got off. Was a great tourist activity.
Got back later that afternoon. Went out that evening and made the short walk over to the locations of street girls. The main street action is on both sides of the streets or alleys surrounding the block which has the Iglesia de la Veracruz.
Lots of run of the mill at best girls with a few quite doable ones mixed in. A few quite young looking. I was feeling rather wiped out and so decided to just see if I could collect a whatsapp number or two for the next day. Talked to a few with my basic Spanish. Pricing was the familiar 50 k for 30 minutes or 70-80 k for the hour with more for extras. Same as the casas.
I was looking for one with good looks AND a good vibe. The good vibe being much harder to come by. Talked to a few. Some would not do BBBJ. DFK was even tougher. But I found a good one! A Vennie, who agreed to everything. Looked pretty young and said she was 20. She was fairly slim but shapely. Kind of a typical mix of part black, part native, part white mix which I find quite appealing. Also had a very warm smiling personality. Exchanged whatsapp and set up a date for the next day.
August 30th. Monday.
Visited the nearby Museo de Antioquia featuring the works of Botero. Not a large museum but well worth the inexpensive entry price. Was expecting to get together by 12 or 1 pm with my new Vennie but as many have experienced, lateness and excuses for lateness is a real problem here. I was tempted to cancel a couple of times but she kept me on the hook skillfully and finally arrived at 3:30 PM coming straight to the hotel.
I didn't know if the Nutibara was girl friendly and didn't want to ask. Had her walk with me to the elevators but was caught. Fortunately it was no problem. She presented a Venezuelan cedula which the hotel exchanged for their own badge and that was good enough.
Started off great in the room. She was upbeat, sweet and smiling and acted as taken with me as I was with her. Then we ran in to some bumps in the road. She didn't like DFK she said! Even though she had previously agreed to it. However she was very good natured about it and did at least attempt it with my insistence a few times.
No one brought a condom. Damn! The BBBJ was very good but she just couldn't keep it up for very long at a stretch to finish that way except with too much help by hand. Odd to say, but it was still some of the best unskilled sex I'd had since college. A rather long time ago. LOL.
Invited her to dinner after that in Poblado. Excellent food and beer at some place I can't recall the name of. Talked a bit and walked around a bit. However, the evening was going down hill fast. She was on her phone a lot and was pretty light weight conversationally, not having anything interesting to respond to much of anything I said including topics about Venezuela! LOL. I decided to call it a night around 8 PM.
I then took a taxi back to the hotel alone happy to have her not come with, even though the original expectation in my mind was that she would. She decided to stay around Parque Lleras to get more business with her soon to be arriving friend. I know it's not my girl and just my turn but that still seemed like comically bad form as she was simultaneously trying to talk me in to more business the next day. I was non committal on that hiding behind my basic Spanish. Didn't really want to close the door quite yet on future sessions but I was clearly falling out of love.
I had already agreed to pay her 300 k earlier in the evening when things were going better. Seemed overly generous by the time we split up but I rationalized it by having spent so many hours together.
August 31st. Tuesday.
Took a Comuna 13 tour 10 am - 2 PM. $25 and I was the only one on the tour! Nice views of the city and I'the recommend it. Got lots of texts from my previous days Vennie during the tour wanting to get together again. I made excuses while politely pointing out the deficiencies in the previous night. She promised that the amor would be better than the first time! That's kind of a fun thing to hear from a female I must admit. LOL.
Instead of a repeat I made a casa run in the Laureles area. Looked for Dharma Massage fighting alot of bad traffic and a lost taxi driver. Did finally find the right building but I'm pretty sure it was closed and no answer at the listed number. Next stop was Eros Spa. Nice looking establishment on the third floor of an apartment building. Note to WT 69. The 322xxxx690 whatsapp number listed for Eros goes somewhere else.
As I sat in the waiting room, around 3:30 PM, girls were all called in and there were around 20! I made a joke as the last girls filed in. Es todo? (Is that all? Hard to focus with so many but the overall quality seemed Ok. 4-7 for the most part. I know 20 or more at once can be awkward but it's also a bit intoxicating and I think it gives the winner a better attitude knowing that she practically won the lottery. LOL.
One definitely stood out at least by my tastes. Another Venezuelan. On the tall side, great face and awesome long legs and shapely and curvy butt. She said she was 20 although I would have thought possible up to 25 and no kids. She agreed to BBBJ with just a 30 k up charge from the 70 k base charge for an hour. I think I forgot to ask about the DFK upfront.
In the room she wouldn't do more than just light kissing. Damn! This had become a recurring problem. On the other hand, the BBBJ was stellar and sloppy and regular sex was good too with lots of moaning sounds for that. If it was an acting job then it was at least a good one. LOL. Exchanged whatsapp as I thought it might be worth repeating.
Next stop, Spa Mariangel. Unfortunately, the taxi driver couldn't find it but via whatsapp the listed number on the map is for a Spa Mariangel in Barranquilla!
Next stop Luna Lunera. Only 5 chicas available but one very beautiful by my taste white girl with dark hair from Baranquilla. Looked like she could have been up to 30 but said she was just turning 25. Quoted only 120 k for the half hour and 200 k for the hour which is less than others have reported. I enquired if there would be more girls later as I left and they said yes there would be about 20 by 8 PM. That turned out be a lie as I found out on a later day.
Got back to the hotel late evening and checked out Conejitos and Grill Nueva Avenida close to the hotel. Tall man said these locations reminded him of Adelitas in Tijuana which I agree. You might be able to find something to your liking in these bars but maybe not too. Checked out the Hilton Grill next but it was mostly empty.
Then I continued north on carrera 53 and checked out 4 or 5 bars on both sides of the street with many chicas sitting alone and in groups and very few male customers. All of that visible without even walking in to any of the bars. Hat tip to Nil Admirari and his excellent reporting who noted the same thing or I probably wouldn't have ventured up this street. Girl quality was about as good or better as any of the better known clubs like Conejitos. Not great but you could definitely find a few to your liking.
I chatted with one nice looking one and pricing was the standard 50 k for half hour. Strange that no one outside of Nil has mentioned this area. Kind of thrilling to see bars with lots more available women than customers. If there's a catch as to why these bars are not more popular than the known ones like Conejitos I couldn't find it.
Sept. 1 - Wednesday.
Main activity of the day was checking out several locations on Avenida 33 on the WT 69 map down the street from Luna Lunera. I can report that the casas Samsara, Sala de masajes Erotico, Los Angeles and Kassandra are all closed.
After that took an Uber to Fantasias Energy. About 8 to 10 chicas available. I was quoted 140 k half hour and 210 k for an hour. Girls here looked mostly 25 to 30 and more dolled up and in some cases "siliconed up" than at Eros. It was a nicer overall set up and ambiance here than in any other casa I had visited. My first choice would not agree to BBBJ.
Second choice would agree but for an extra 100 k. Those prices are good by USA Standards but I had gotten use to better so I bargained. In the end I paid 110 k to the house for a half hour plus 90 k more to the girl for BBBJ and DFK.
I had chosen well. This girl was a 27 year old white paisa with no tatoos and a very pleasant mature personality. Excellent DFK and BBBJ. We finished fairly quickly and talked for several minutes afterward which was a nice touch.
Sept. 2 - Thursday.
Took an all day tour to Lake Guatape, the town by the same name, and Penal Rock which I hiked all 600 steps up. Highly recommended if you've got the time. Started at 7:30 AM and didn't get back to the hotel until 7:30 PM so a very long day with 2 hours each way in a tour bus. Cost was only $30 which included breakfast and lunch and a one hour boat ride. It was a steal and easily the highlight of all my tourist activities. When I got back to the Nutibara the hot water was out!
Sept. 3 - Friday.
Hot water still out on Friday morning and was projected to remain out for another day! I switched hotels to Laureles Plaza Hotel. A blessing in disguise as Laureles is a much nicer area than Centro. That afternoon went back to Eros Spa. This time I took the time to count the actual number in the line up. 21! Although the overall quality was not great, with such a high number I'm sure most guys could find one or two to their liking. I found one but it ended up being a ho hum session. 100 k damages including BBBJ.
Sept 4 - Saturday.
Tourist activity. Visited the very large Minorista fruit and vegetable market just to see it although I did not buy anything. Fruits and vegetables of all kinds here at very low prices compared to the USA Amazing. Then checked out the first Saturday of every month Parque Bolivar artisans market. Was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the various items for sale and bought a couple of unique souvenirs.
Saturday night I went back to club Luna Lunera but got there too early at 7:30 PM. Only 2 available chicas at the time. 20 more were promised by 8:00 PM which quickly proved to be a lie. By 9 PM there were still only 6-7 but practically no customers! Luna Lunera wanted 210 k for the half hour and 310 k for the hour so the prices had gone up a lot from the daytime quote. The beer selection was terrible and most all of the tables had a sign on them requiring you to buy a 150 k bottle in order to sit there! Your mileage may vary but all of these girls seemed a bit rough around the edges to me and I passed. By 11 PM I think the chica selection would have probably improved but I didn't wait around to find out.
After 9 PM went to a new club not far from my hotel. Table Dance Grill Club on Calle 44 #73-58. Whatsapp # +57 312xxxx432. Once again, almost no customers with 6 to 7 chicas. Quality was decent and better than Luna Lunera. Talked to one who wanted 180 k for 30 minutes and 250 k for the hour. But I passed since she was unwilling on the BBBJ. These night time clubs may be worth it but the real action doesn't seem to start until 11 PM.
Sept. 5 - Sunday.
Flew to Cartagena on a 2:25 PM flight. Flying time only 45 minutes. Then only a 20 minute ride from the airport to the Hotel Playa Club in Bocagrande.
Was hot and humid in Cartagena as expected. After settling in to my hotel room I made a walk to the beach in the late afternoon. Right behind the hotel on the beach side a couple of somewhat rough looking difficult to understand touts found me, offering to help me find anything I might need. I wasn't expecting much, but they came through in just minutes!
The chica they found for me was quite a pleasant sight. Curvy, medium height girl from Barranquilla. Her father she said was of pure white Spanish ancestry, and her mother was black.
She had blue eyes that were practically the same color as mine. Very unusual for her medium light black skin tone but they looked appropriate on her as her features were not very dark. She was very good looking in the face by my picky standards. Perhaps an 8. We sat down on beach chairs and the touts brought us a couple of beers which were "free" that I of course realized would become expensive later.
She said she was 26 which was believable but if she had said 20 that would have been believable too. Had graduated college with a Business degree. No tattoos. As we talked she stared in to my eyes with a very seductive gaze and a kind of upbeat classy demeanor. Wow!
For a girl of this quality I realized I was probably low balling when I offered her 200 k for an hour. She politely turned that down. Eventually we settled on 350 k pesos for one hour plus a 50 k propina if it was good. That included BBBJ and DFK which at first she said she wouldn't do. Some might think I'm ruining the local market paying these kind of prices but I'm sure I'm not. This was a special case.
I paid the touts 50 k for their "free" beer. And we were off to the hotel. I know I was taking a small chance by not checking her in at the front desk but we slipped by to my room no problem.
From there this fine looking Colombiana completely lived up to expectations with passionate DFK, BBBJ, regular sex with condom and even CIM! (which had not been discussed up front). Never discussed pictures up front either but got a few of those too even including a full body and face pic which I will cherish since it perfectly captured her personality and smile.
She said she had been making very respectable money as a web cam girl and so that's perhaps why she wasn't paranoid about face pics. However, she still told me not to share them.
After the hour was up we talked for another half hour. A chore for me at my level of Spanish but I mostly kept up. She mentioned that she also provided multi hour, all day and or including all night sessions for double or triple what I had just paid Not my thing and especially not at those prices but we exchanged whatsapp in any case.
In text messages we exchanged the next day she said she would be going to Delerium with a friend. Is this a pick up club? Didn't look like one online but maybe it's become one? Perhaps someone reading this can answer that question. S.
She left me that night with me thinking I'd go broke if what I just had was a typical mongering experience! LOL.
Sept. 6 - Monday.
Another tourism day. Went to the walled City in the early morning and gave myself a self guided 2-3 hour tour. Was not very crowded as I had feared. I'd recommend this activity if you like Spanish colonial towns. Afterwards, I needed the exercise so walked all the way back to the hotel. About 3 miles.
That afternoon I checked out the beach scene again and went for a swim in the nice warm water. Some touts found me again but I particularly searched out Tony and found him eventually. He wears a green #19 Jersey with the name Antonio on it and is overweight just as described.
I don't know if I was really required to pay him 20 k for my beach seats with umbrella but I did. He brought over 3 to 4 chicas a couple of which I'd rate as Ok but not great. One was asking for 300 k per hour although I think I could have probably gotten that down to 200 k. I don't know if the price was inflated by Tony. Tony must have given up on me after that and after no further introductions for 20 minutes, I left. I'm not sure why Tony is a legend but every other tout you meet on the beach calls himself Tony so he must be. LOL.
I was able to find chicas on my own more successfully and at better prices than with Tony's help. Of course that does require at least basic Spanish. A couple of beach chicas I found agreed to 150 k per hour including BBBJ. One chica in particular had a decent amount of appeal and I probably would have gone for it on another day. But I kept looking for something a little better and never found it. Nothing I found was nearly in the same league as on my first day.
Another tout found me in the later evening and convinced me to go to Casa Rosilla. Said there would be 20 fine women there and it was only 15 minutes away. That was all a lie. Taxi ride took over 30 minutes in heavy traffic and the driver dropped me and the tout off. When we got there there were only 2 women and that part of town, close to the cruise ships, was a bit scary looking too. One of the two available had some appeal but wanted 300 k for an hour and would not agree to BBBJ.
I cut my losses and decided to go back to the hotel as the whole situation was beginning to feel even a bit dangerous. Another long ride back to the hotel for 20 k during which time he tried to sell me on cocaine and other drugs but I wasn't about to take a chance on that. He acted pretty angry at my offer to give him 10 k for his trouble even though he deserved nothing and I was very happy to be rid of him for 20 k. I was an idiot, and should have realized not to accept anything "free" from anyone!
Probably should have gone to the clock tower that night but I knew the good action probably wouldn't start until after 10 PM and I had an early flight back to Medellin the next morning.
Sept. 7 - Tuesday.
Flight back to Medellin. Got back to my Laureles hotel at 1 PM. Managed to arrange a date at the hotel via whatsapp with the first Eros girl who had unexpectedly contacted me the day before. She promised DFK this time. 150 k for an hour plus taxi. She tried hard to get me to do a trio with her friend for an extra 100 k but I passed. Our 3 PM date ended up being at 4 PM which by local standards meant she had come an hour early! . LOL.
This girl ended up being somewhat of a surprise in her personality from what I had recalled from the first session. She was no longer working at Eros due to some problem in getting paid the explanation for which I couldn't understand and she was now independent.
Upon arrival she helped herself to mini bar snacks and to the coke in my mini fridge to use as a chaser for the bottle of rum she had brought. She encouraged me to do shots along with her as she turned up the Latin music on the TV too loud. Then she made a bad impression by asking for the money upfront. That's always a bad sign. I wisely declined to pay and she backed off on the request.
We got down to the main event at that point. The BBBJ and sex was was quite good once again but then the DFK was completely lacking in violation of the agreement! This is why I don't pay up front and would have been perfectly happy to end the date if she had insisted! Foolishly, I agreed to a propina for better DFK but not worth it as the DFK was still sub par. Still overall, a good session.
I gave her a 30 k propina and 50 k for the taxi as agreed for a total of 230 k. At that point she seemed to not have much desire to leave even beginning to roll a joint which she said was for the road. .
I was getting some pretty good Spanish lessons as the date went 45 minutes over. She complimented me with expressions I can't well translate but she also sensed correctly that the feeling was not entirely mutual. LOL. Funny how much gets communicated even in the absence of good language skills. Although she had a body to die for and looked attractive in the face too, I just prefer the demure types much more than the hard drinking and partying types.
Sept. 8th. Wednesday.
Had to attend to some remote work and personal issues for most of the day. That afternoon I walked down to Carrera 70, the main bar and restaurant area looking for some packaged coffee to bring back home. I ran in to a charming young vendor of postres toting around a large container and after turning down a postre asked her advice on how to find the packaged coffee I was looking for.
Quickly offered her a 2 k tip for being so helpful. One thing led to another and she accompanied me to a grocery store near by where I made the purchase. She was just a tremendous amount of fun to talk to and we were even laughing together.
We spent the next hour and a half or so talking while sipping coffee and a gaseosa, (soft drink), I told her I'd pay her 40 k to make up for the lost postre sales.
There seemed to be a hint of attraction in the air that was building, (or was it attraction to my money! Which eventually became unambiguous. Yes, I was not imaging this! Problem is that even though she had the body of a smoking hot 22 year old, she had the face of someone not necessarily even 18. Although she did claim to be 18.
But no cedula! Age of consent is pretty low in Colombia but there's more than one way for something like this to go south so I wisely passed. Damn!
Sept. 9th. Thursday.
Checked out the Pablo Escobar museum tour. Tour only lasted about an hour and a half. Was over priced at $46 but I did learn a little. More remote work that afternoon.
Sept. 10th Friday.
Caught my midnight flight back home through Mexico City. Flight took off on time and landed in Mexico City. Customs was a little slow and then the process of scanning baggage was very very slow and I missed my connecting flight!
What a mess! Reminded me of other Latin American experiences. Super slow hotel check ins even when there's no problems. Very slow service in restaurants and pharmacies even in the presence of large numbers of employees and few customers. I have to remind myself that I'm not in a hurry here! LOL.
My original connecting flight was at 6:30 am and the new one was at 11:30 am. I used the time to write more of this trip report. Made it back to Tijuana about 1 PM local time. No covid test required to then cross back in to the USA!
Couldn't get a straight answer out of Aeromexico or anyone else before hand so this was a relief when I finally crossed over without the negative covid test. The airport exists on both sides of the border and is set up to make crossing back in to the USA Easy!
Comparing Medellin to Bogota and Cali which I'd already visited, I'm not sure I have a strong preference for any one city over the other now. Bogota and Cali are better in that they don't have as many tourists. Medellin looks better as it sits in a scenic valley however the air quality and or haziness and cloudiness of the skies detracts from that.
I'd give the edge to Bogota in mongering quality for what you pay. The Bogota Santa Fe area beats the Medellin Centro area. Cali chicas treat you better as you're more of a novelty without so many tourists around, but not as much to do in Cali and the weather can be pretty hot.
I was tempted by the online prepagos. Just hard to pull the trigger on that without face pics which they would rarely provide. Facebook seemed possible although difficult since I did not want to provide much info or face pic in my own profile. Has anyone had success with using Tinder anonymously and without face pic profile?
In summary, I don't think you can go wrong anywhere in Colombia. Now I just need to figure out a way to spend more time down there!
I love it when people agree with me and don't even know it. What you described was price depression during a time when supply exceeded demand and now that demand is putting pressure on supply-side, prices are going up. The only argument you can make is whether or not this is a free market, which not one mongering soul here has ever done..I'm not highly educated, but simply put in layman terms, and not in economic terms, prices have gone up as a result of newbie gringos overpaying.
Has nothing to do with supply and demand, because if the newbie gringos weren't overpaying, every thing would remain constant, with the prices not going up.
It's that simple.
All taken within the last 24 hours.Looks like Zona Rosa!
All taken within the last 24 hours.Looks like you rented some rooms at Zona Rosa. If they had a customer rewards program, I would of earned a lot free stays there. I always tip the girls at the front desk. When I arrive with one of my skanks, they automatically go in the back and bring out another towel for me.
Hi,
I like to play Beachvolleyball and swim some lanes, what are the best places for that? I think the Estadio Sports Complex is one of that places, is it open? Any restrictions?
Is Medellin suitable for biking (at least the flat parts)?
So let's cut to the chase on this and your foray into Centro.
Looks like you had a female Humpty Dumpty with you in the room for a rato.
How was it, any afterglow after doing the deed with her. LOL.
She wasn't a bareback cream pie girl was she?
If so, I'm going to have to keep an eye out for that one, just my cup of tea! LOL.I think she might fall into the "diamond in a rough" category for an El Centro puta. The trick for her was I allowed her amiga of 10 years to come along and including in the room with us. I could tell she felt more safe and secure with her friend along. So really it was a three-way but my main focus was on the one chica. Her friend did not charge me even though she gave me a blowjob while I was fondling the primary (so much for Tall Man's Rule #5, "it's all about the money".
Well technically it wasn't a blowjob she just sucked my balls her. I tipped her 10 mil at the end. The hot one, her friend who quoted me 40 mil, I gave her a 50 mil, didn't worry about the change. I respect my fellow mongers but since I know what I pay has no bearing on price I don't give a shit or don't pay attention if I go over or under a little bit because that is chump change to me. The economic Law of Supply and Demand in a free market, which won a Nobel Prize over a hundred years ago as a theory and has since been elevated to a law, has withstood the test of time.
She gave me her phone number and she is so f* hot and sweet and natural I may actually give her a call but my plate is more than full right now.
Is that the puta you were you talking about or did you mean the pregnant one? Jajajajaja.
One more thing about price and then I'm done. Yeah, I know I've read the comments before about the price debate existing for 10 years or more here on this board, whatever. I solved it for you, okay? With information I learned 25 years ago that I rarely tap into. Deal with it. Moving on. End of discussion.
I get it. I'm a Medellin newbie and I already lapped a bunch of the old-timers, it happens. I'm used to it, they're not.
I respect subject matter experts and I never claimed to be one. I'm a monger, I have a mongering soul. I am second generation monger, it's in my DNA. I am the Scorpion in the Frog and Scorpion fable. I don't tolerate posers and pretenders.
I did not come to Medellin to monger. I did not even know Medellin was a mongering destination until after I arrived. That should tell you a lot.
Put a blindfold on me, spin me around drop me anywhere in the world and I will optimize my environment. That's all I did here. I believe and employ in the power of teleological thinking. I may be pre-wired for it which is maybe why it works so well for me. I don't know if it works for others, don't ask me.
I'm here to have fun, fuck and get sucked, get high, and touch as many gorgeous bodies as I can between now and when I die. Hopefully, without hurting myself or anyone else in the process and possibly maybe slightly helping a few people along the way.
With that said, I'm no longer going to engage anyone on this board, I'm going to post but I'm not going to interact. That news should come as a relief to some, most will not give a shit. Put me on your Ignore List. I don't care. Like any hot chica, I reserve the right to change my mind about interacting and engaging with other mongers on this board in the future jaja.
If you want it then you obviously get the last word. Before you accuse me of thinking that my shit doesn't stink, I love you guys and I can and will still learn a lot from you but I'm not willing to commit the time it takes to engage and interact with other users here so I'm just going to post and leave it at that. Nothing personal.
Keep On Keeping On! Ostee Out!
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Elvis 2008
09-12-21, 17:40
This happens on both sides. It is a percentage. Some people agree with you, some don't. It is the same the other way around.
Has anyone posted any report here to back you up on your point? I am not saying I don't believe you. Just so you see the problem if no one followed up with a report with picture taken themselves.
This is saying nothing. On an anonymous website full of horny guys you do not need a picture for guys to hit you up for numbers. All you have to do is say you fucked someone and the vultures will flock. Really weird to me when guys do that. Just because I reported fucking and having a great time, they want in, not knowing whether the chick could be farther from what they find attractive.You guys and your straw men just crack me up. I am going to make this point one last time and I give up.
In pursuing our hobby gents must be cognizant of the fact that some mongers are less financially empowered than others. Indeed some guys can spend $50 in the same manner that others spend $5. However, that does not give blokes the right to spend freely just because they could afford it. One has to be mindful of mongers who do not have the wherewithal to spend as freely and try not to alter the market to their detriment. In other words, be compassionate. Be your brothers' keeper. I'm just putting into words what many do not want to say.I found this post particularly nauseating. Guys do not have the "right" to spend their own money freely? And then invoking Biblical phrasing to justify that point of view? Yeesh.
The most important aspect of this forum is information about where women are, and the second most important question is how much. When I say that I paid a 10 a $100 and was reamed for it on the board and then was hit it up for her number in private, what incentive does that create for me and other guys to be honest? If I do not want to be shamed on this forum, I either do not mention how much I paid or cut it in half, and that is what guys are going to do and are doing.
In that case, you guys are like women in that you want to be told what you want to hear versus the truth, and the truth is the area where there was flexibility in pricing with mongering, I would just double what guys here were saying and those were the prices I was seeing. That is how much bullshit was being peddled on the forum.
This was not even my original point. Mojo said it, and I agreed. I have no skin in this game anymore, so you believe whatever you want.
Regnom3000
09-12-21, 17:44
Hit for a little over a week and stayed in Airbnb in Laureles about a 10 minute walk to Tantra and close to Floresta station. Same as always, cool weather, inexpensive, beautiful women. Some guys complaining about to many mongers but why decide to go to a less desirable place just because of that. Just stay of the beaten path a little and it keeps it to a minimum.
Hit Tantra 3 times. 80 k for 45 minutes. Always have been happy with Tantra but last time only about 3 girls so was concerned would eventually not see anything of interest. But now they seem to be back to 10 plus girls so usually 2 or 3 I find attractive. First time cute mature curvy blond. Very good service. 2nd cute girl with a lot of ink including a full back tattoo. Some reason I get nervous that heavy ink means bad attitude but this girl had a great attitude with very physical massage. 3rd time was going to repeat with her but not around so with with very good looking tall girl I think Nicole or something close to that. Thought with her good looks might be subpar but turned out best massage whole trip. Think Tantra is very committed to customer service..Great report. I like thicker girls so you've inspired me to maybe give a few of those casas a shot.
Regnom3000
09-12-21, 17:48
Well, I really need to get back into the game. Been in the states for a few months, and before that in Mexico. Colombia is much better INHO. So I am here. Had myself a cute Vene and took here over to Nutbara. Its where I was staying.
I was super tired because I got in late and stayed out till the early morning hours.
Just had to get to find a girl there though. This girl calls herself Johana. After the dealing with the whole sex thing I took her out for a few beers. Welt to go find a cig and bam, here and her beer were both gone. I just enjoyed the company, I guess. I get it, she has to go back to work. Just wanted to show some respect. Super energetic. Wish I could have performed better. Went to Yakuza. Still there, it has changed a bit with newer girls. One was doable, but I was just too tired. I did get her number, Maybe its fake, don't know. Quoted 50 K A bit much for 30 minutes for me, but to each his own.
Total damage was 50 for an hour.
Ill be looking for that 16 COP place someone here was talking about. My plan is to get a place near Estadio or something like that. Need to check out somewhere I can find a furnished place.
Will try to upload Johanas pic.I have a furnished apartastudio in a building in Estadio I dig. Think they've got some open spots, PM me if you want the info.
Nobody is moving into El Centro to fuck things up, the existing SW's are being corrupted by all the newbie Colombian mongers overpaying. And to put things in perspective, $ 5 USD may be chump change to you and I, but for a Colombian that's almost 20,000 COP which is not chump change.
This is Colombia, not any of the other Countries you listed so we have to think in Colombian Pesos and their value in Colombia, not USD. And when a Chica throws out a wildly inflated price almost double to a newbie Colombian monger, and he accepts it, guess what, news of this travels like wildfire between the walkers and hence that is what I have been noticing as to what has been occurring. I posted about a candy girl the other day quoting me 50 K, when up until about six months ago before the invasion of the newbie mongers, it was typically 20 K.All the info is here and its being corrupted by wannabe reporters that hit it once and think they are experts.
Some people don't know how, when or why they should stfu.
"Loose lips sink ships" This is an old saying and if one doesn't understand it look it up. LOL.
Regnom3000
09-12-21, 20:14
One more thing about price and then I'm done. Yeah, I know I've read the comments before about the price debate existing for 10 years or more here on this board, whatever. I solved it for you, okay? With information I learned 25 years ago that I rarely tap into. Deal with it. Moving on. End of discussion.
I get it. I'm a Medellin newbie and I already lapped a bunch of the old-timers, it happens. I'm used to it, they're not.
I respect subject matter experts and I never claimed to be one. I'm a monger, I have a mongering soul. I am second generation monger, it's in my DNA. I am the Scorpion in the Frog and Scorpion fable. I don't tolerate posers and pretenders.
I did not come to Medellin to monger. I did not even know Medellin was a mongering destination until after I arrived. That should tell you a lot.
Put a blindfold on me, spin me around drop me anywhere in the world and I will optimize my environment. That's all I did here. I believe and employ in the power of teleological thinking. I may be pre-wired for it which is maybe why it works so well for me. I don't know if it works for others, don't ask me.
I'm here to have fun, fuck and get sucked, get high, and touch as many gorgeous bodies as I can between now and when I die. Hopefully, without hurting myself or anyone else in the process and possibly maybe slightly helping a few people along the way..Now that. Is a mic drop. More power to you hermano, I'll be following the adventure as the saga continues.
You guys and your straw men just crack me up. I am going to make this point one last time and I give up.
I found this post particularly nauseating. Guys do not have the "right" to spend their own money freely? And then invoking Biblical phrasing to justify that point of view? Yeesh.
The most important aspect of this forum is information about where women are, and the second most important question is how much. When I say that I paid a 10 a $100 and was reamed for it on the board and then was hit it up for her number in private, what incentive does that create for me and other guys to be honest? If I do not want to be shamed on this forum, I either do not mention how much I paid or cut it in half, and that is what guys are going to do and are doing.
In that case, you guys are like women in that you want to be told what you want to hear versus the truth, and the truth is the area where there was flexibility in pricing with mongering, I would just double what guys here were saying and those were the prices I was seeing. That is how much bullshit was being peddled on the forum.
This was not even my original point. Mojo said it, and I agreed. I have no skin in this game anymore, so you believe whatever you want.Yeah, I don't know what that was supposed to mean. Do I tell a girl 150 k is too much because tomorrow a guy I don't know might only be able to pay 100 k?
I really do believe a lot of guys pretend to pay as little as possible but I bet they also don't share how often a girl doesn't show or disappears. There are many good girls that will not work for 150 because they don't need to. Often these girls make an agreement then disappear because they have a better offer or think 100 k is an insult. There is a market for cheap girls but not all cheap girls are good. I'm in contact with a lot of popular girls on Instagram and they aren't coming for 150 k because they don't need the money and they already have a stable of men that pay more- Colombian men.
Gents,
Can any of you recommend the highest (or at least high) end casa en Medellin, possibly en de Poblado area.
I visit Spa Fantasias last week which was nice, but yo creo here might be some others that I am miss.
Thanks for your advices.
I'm not highly educated, but simply put in layman terms, and not in economic terms, prices have gone up as a result of newbie gringos overpaying.
Has nothing to do with supply and demand, because if the newbie gringos weren't overpaying, every thing would remain constant, with the prices not going up.
It's that simple.Layman's terms is always better, even though in this forum we are blessed with renowned experts in about every subject under the sun. Wink.
ColombiaLover
09-12-21, 22:44
Good for these chicas if they can do better. There are always guys who will pay. Whether out of stupidity. Necessity. Or lack of time. Or the just have to have her. But there are also many good girls (often who look as good or better and / or who give as good or much better service) who will take 150 or so. I simply tell them two things. 1) I have been around for a long time and I know plenty of girls who are happy with that and give good service, so thanks anyways and 2) remember the Colombian minimum. Deep down, most of these girls realize their pussies are just a "tool" to make money, just like laborers have tools and street vendors have tools.
True, not all cheap girls are good. But to the contrary, many, many of the expensive girls are not good. They get lazy and spoiled. If a girl wears too much fake Gucci, the&G, etc. And / or bathes in make-up and / or is a silicone addict, that's a huge read flag for me. I would not be interested in them even if they would accept 150.
I imagine there are some Colombian men who pay more, although no telling how they treat the chicas (I suspect most of us treat them with more respect), but there are a whole lot of cheap-ass Colombian men who hate gringos because we are banging their chicas.
. There are many good girls that will not work for 150 because they don't need to. Often these girls make an agreement then disappear because they have a better offer or think 100 k is an insult. There is a market for cheap girls but not all cheap girls are good. I'm in contact with a lot of popular girls on Instagram and they aren't coming for 150 k because they don't need the money and they already have a stable of men that pay more- Colombian men.
BigButtDetecto
09-12-21, 23:25
Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.
August 27th. Friday.
Flew out of Tijuana on Aeromexico and arrived in Medellin around midnight. About 8 hours of flying time with a 2 hour layover in Mexico City. I arrived at the Nutibara hotel around 1:30 AM paying 80 k pesos for a taxi.
Nutibara is an older hotel, historic in it's day, on one end of Plaza Botero in El Centro, (the downtown area). It's fairly basic and staff did not speak English, but it is in a good location for some tourist attractions and for street girls as well as many daytime casas.
Based on reports in this forum, I had some concerns about safety before coming. By day, I would say that the El Centro area is mostly safe and swarming with large numbers of locals. Plenty of people out and about even past night fall for a few hours. Still, in and around El Centro, there are many sketchy looking streets with homeless and trash and although I never witnessed any crime, I had taxi drivers warn me of the petty crime and to keep phones and valuables hidden from sight.
August 28th. Saturday.
Started exploring the local casas following WT 69's map. First stop Yukasa which is just behind the hotel. 4 or 5 girls working at 11 AM. None caught my interest. Seemed like kind of a low end place. Next I looked for Chicas punto com near by on Calle 54. Same location, phone number, and address but now it's called Armonia Spa. WT 69's map showed a Fantasias Erotic massage on the 3rd floor of the same building but that no longer exists.
Armonia Spa was a winner! About 10 chicas, 3 or 4 of which looked quite good to me. Prices were 50 k for half hour and 70 or 80 k for the hour. BBBJ and DFK were extra. My first choice would do BBBJ but was firm on no DFK. Moved on to choice 2. A smoking hot very shapely Venezuelan. Said she was 25 but I would have believed 20 or 22. Though she agreed to DFK that ended up being pretty weak. BBBJ was decent but no CIM. Total damages 100 k for 30 minutes. All in all I was feeling like I was off to a good Medellin start!
I'm a one shot and out kind of guy but I continued my casa tour for educational purposes. Next Stop Zandalay and I walked there in what seemed like not much more than 5 minutes. Same pricing as Armonia and for that matter all the other casas too. 50 k per half hour and 80 k for the hour. Chicas seemed slightly older than at Armonia but for 2 or 3 out of the 5, I might have pulled the trigger on if I wasn't already spent. Next stop was Amigas Sexy which had a nice setup and at least a couple doable chicas. Dulce Compania nearby was next. Only 3-4 available and very low end like Yukasa. Masajes Aife was next. 5 or 6 available and a couple looked alright.
Last stop was New Life. With all the good reviews I was expecting it would be a cut above and perhaps better than Armonia but that was not my impression. Overall I think New Life was over rated but that could be because not a lot was available when I was there either time I visited in late morning, (5-6) and or they had become too popular because this was the one club in which I heard Americans both times.
Around 8 PM Saturday night I hit Barra Ejecutiva close by based on the good reports from Tall Man and others. I liked it there. Talked to a few of the chicas and met most of them at least briefly as they came by to collect contributions after dancing center stage. No problem. I handed out 2 k peso bills like they were candy. (only about 50 cents).
There were about 10 girls in the bar who looked to range in age from 20 to 30. I talked to 2 or 3 of them with my basic Spanish and in general they gave off a more educated and classy vibe than I observed in other bars. Called it a night after that leaving around 9 PM and made the 2-3 minute walk back to the Nutibara. Didn't feel dangerous but I suppose there might have been some risk even though there were still plenty of people out and about.
August 29th. Sunday.
Took an 11 k peso (about 3 dollar), 20 minute taxi drive in the morning to Parque Lleras in Poblado. Was not expecting any action that time of day and didn't find any. But Poblado is a much better ambiance and tourist destination than Centro. Walked around a bit and then did about a 15 minute walk to the Poblado Metro station.
The Metro is an excellent, modern and cheap system although a bit crowded that day. It's about a 15 minute ride from Poblado back to Parque Berrio which is a short walk to Plaza Botero and my hotel but I kept going about 15 minutes more on the Metro to the Acevedo station and then took the Metro Cable gondola like system as it gained a lot of elevation to Santo Domingo where I got off. Was a great tourist activity.
Got back later that afternoon. Went out that evening and made the short walk over to the locations of street girls. The main street action is on both sides of the streets or alleys surrounding the block which has the Iglesia de la Veracruz.
Lots of run of the mill at best girls with a few quite doable ones mixed in. A few quite young looking. I was feeling rather wiped out and so decided to just see if I could collect a whatsapp number or two for the next day. Talked to a few with my basic Spanish. Pricing was the familiar 50 k for 30 minutes or 70-80 k for the hour with more for extras. Same as the casas.
I was looking for one with good looks AND a good vibe. The good vibe being much harder to come by. Talked to a few. Some would not do BBBJ. DFK was even tougher. But I found a good one! A Vennie, who agreed to everything. Looked pretty young and said she was 20. She was fairly slim but shapely. Kind of a typical mix of part black, part native, part white mix which I find quite appealing. Also had a very warm smiling personality. Exchanged whatsapp and set up a date for the next day.
August 30th. Monday.
Visited the nearby Museo de Antioquia featuring the works of Botero. Not a large museum but well worth the inexpensive entry price. Was expecting to get together by 12 or 1 pm with my new Vennie but as many have experienced, lateness and excuses for lateness is a real problem here. I was tempted to cancel a couple of times but she kept me on the hook skillfully and finally arrived at 3:30 PM coming straight to the hotel.
I didn't know if the Nutibara was girl friendly and didn't want to ask. Had her walk with me to the elevators but was caught. Fortunately it was no problem. She presented a Venezuelan cedula which the hotel exchanged for their own badge and that was good enough.
Started off great in the room. She was upbeat, sweet and smiling and acted as taken with me as I was with her. Then we ran in to some bumps in the road. She didn't like DFK she said! Even though she had previously agreed to it. However she was very good natured about it and did at least attempt it with my insistence a few times.
No one brought a condom. Damn! The BBBJ was very good but she just couldn't keep it up for very long at a stretch to finish that way except with too much help by hand. Odd to say, but it was still some of the best unskilled sex I'd had since college. A rather long time ago. LOL.
Invited her to dinner after that in Poblado. Excellent food and beer at some place I can't recall the name of. Talked a bit and walked around a bit. However, the evening was going down hill fast. She was on her phone a lot and was pretty light weight conversationally, not having anything interesting to respond to much of anything I said including topics about Venezuela! LOL. I decided to call it a night around 8 PM.
I then took a taxi back to the hotel alone happy to have her not come with, even though the original expectation in my mind was that she would. She decided to stay around Parque Lleras to get more business with her soon to be arriving friend. I know it's not my girl and just my turn but that still seemed like comically bad form as she was simultaneously trying to talk me in to more business the next day. I was non committal on that hiding behind my basic Spanish. Didn't really want to close the door quite yet on future sessions but I was clearly falling out of love.
I had already agreed to pay her 300 k earlier in the evening when things were going better. Seemed overly generous by the time we split up but I rationalized it by having spent so many hours together.
August 31st. Tuesday.
Took a Comuna 13 tour 10 am - 2 PM. $25 and I was the only one on the tour! Nice views of the city and I'the recommend it. Got lots of texts from my previous days Vennie during the tour wanting to get together again. I made excuses while politely pointing out the deficiencies in the previous night. She promised that the amor would be better than the first time! That's kind of a fun thing to hear from a female I must admit. LOL.
Instead of a repeat I made a casa run in the Laureles area. Looked for Dharma Massage fighting alot of bad traffic and a lost taxi driver. Did finally find the right building but I'm pretty sure it was closed and no answer at the listed number. Next stop was Eros Spa. Nice looking establishment on the third floor of an apartment building. Note to WT 69. The 322xxxx690 whatsapp number listed for Eros goes somewhere else.
As I sat in the waiting room, around 3:30 PM, girls were all called in and there were around 20! I made a joke as the last girls filed in. Es todo? (Is that all? Hard to focus with so many but the overall quality seemed Ok. 4-7 for the most part. I know 20 or more at once can be awkward but it's also a bit intoxicating and I think it gives the winner a better attitude knowing that she practically won the lottery. LOL.
One definitely stood out at least by my tastes. Another Venezuelan. On the tall side, great face and awesome long legs and shapely and curvy butt. She said she was 20 although I would have thought possible up to 25 and no kids. She agreed to BBBJ with just a 30 k up charge from the 70 k base charge for an hour. I think I forgot to ask about the DFK upfront.
In the room she wouldn't do more than just light kissing. Damn! This had become a recurring problem. On the other hand, the BBBJ was stellar and sloppy and regular sex was good too with lots of moaning sounds for that. If it was an acting job then it was at least a good one. LOL. Exchanged whatsapp as I thought it might be worth repeating.
Next stop, Spa Mariangel. Unfortunately, the taxi driver couldn't find it but via whatsapp the listed number on the map is for a Spa Mariangel in Barranquilla!
Next stop Luna Lunera. Only 5 chicas available but one very beautiful by my taste white girl with dark hair from Baranquilla. Looked like she could have been up to 30 but said she was just turning 25. Quoted only 120 k for the half hour and 200 k for the hour which is less than others have reported. I enquired if there would be more girls later as I left and they said yes there would be about 20 by 8 PM. That turned out be a lie as I found out on a later day.
Got back to the hotel late evening and checked out Conejitos and Grill Nueva Avenida close to the hotel. Tall man said these locations reminded him of Adelitas in Tijuana which I agree. You might be able to find something to your liking in these bars but maybe not too. Checked out the Hilton Grill next but it was mostly empty.
Then I continued north on carrera 53 and checked out 4 or 5 bars on both sides of the street with many chicas sitting alone and in groups and very few male customers. All of that visible without even walking in to any of the bars. Hat tip to Nil Admirari and his excellent reporting who noted the same thing or I probably wouldn't have ventured up this street. Girl quality was about as good or better as any of the better known clubs like Conejitos. Not great but you could definitely find a few to your liking.
I chatted with one nice looking one and pricing was the standard 50 k for half hour. Strange that no one outside of Nil has mentioned this area. Kind of thrilling to see bars with lots more available women than customers. If there's a catch as to why these bars are not more popular than the known ones like Conejitos I couldn't find it.
Sept. 1 - Wednesday.
Main activity of the day was checking out several locations on Avenida 33 on the WT 69 map down the street from Luna Lunera. I can report that the casas Samsara, Sala de masajes Erotico, Los Angeles and Kassandra are all closed.
After that took an Uber to Fantasias Energy. About 8 to 10 chicas available. I was quoted 140 k half hour and 210 k for an hour. Girls here looked mostly 25 to 30 and more dolled up and in some cases "siliconed up" than at Eros. It was a nicer overall set up and ambiance here than in any other casa I had visited. My first choice would not agree to BBBJ.
Second choice would agree but for an extra 100 k. Those prices are good by USA Standards but I had gotten use to better so I bargained. In the end I paid 110 k to the house for a half hour plus 90 k more to the girl for BBBJ and DFK.
I had chosen well. This girl was a 27 year old white paisa with no tatoos and a very pleasant mature personality. Excellent DFK and BBBJ. We finished fairly quickly and talked for several minutes afterward which was a nice touch.
Sept. 2 - Thursday.
Took an all day tour to Lake Guatape, the town by the same name, and Penal Rock which I hiked all 600 steps up. Highly recommended if you've got the time. Started at 7:30 AM and didn't get back to the hotel until 7:30 PM so a very long day with 2 hours each way in a tour bus. Cost was only $30 which included breakfast and lunch and a one hour boat ride. It was a steal and easily the highlight of all my tourist activities. When I got back to the Nutibara the hot water was out!
Sept. 3 - Friday.
Hot water still out on Friday morning and was projected to remain out for another day! I switched hotels to Laureles Plaza Hotel. A blessing in disguise as Laureles is a much nicer area than Centro. That afternoon went back to Eros Spa. This time I took the time to count the actual number in the line up. 21! Although the overall quality was not great, with such a high number I'm sure most guys could find one or two to their liking. I found one but it ended up being a ho hum session. 100 k damages including BBBJ.
Sept 4 - Saturday.
Tourist activity. Visited the very large Minorista fruit and vegetable market just to see it although I did not buy anything. Fruits and vegetables of all kinds here at very low prices compared to the USA Amazing. Then checked out the first Saturday of every month Parque Bolivar artisans market. Was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the various items for sale and bought a couple of unique souvenirs.
Saturday night I went back to club Luna Lunera but got there too early at 7:30 PM. Only 2 available chicas at the time. 20 more were promised by 8:00 PM which quickly proved to be a lie. By 9 PM there were still only 6-7 but practically no customers! Luna Lunera wanted 210 k for the half hour and 310 k for the hour so the prices had gone up a lot from the daytime quote. The beer selection was terrible and most all of the tables had a sign on them requiring you to buy a 150 k bottle in order to sit there! Your mileage may vary but all of these girls seemed a bit rough around the edges to me and I passed. By 11 PM I think the chica selection would have probably improved but I didn't wait around to find out.
After 9 PM went to a new club not far from my hotel. Table Dance Grill Club on Calle 44 #73-58. Whatsapp # +57 312xxxx432. Once again, almost no customers with 6 to 7 chicas. Quality was decent and better than Luna Lunera. Talked to one who wanted 180 k for 30 minutes and 250 k for the hour. But I passed since she was unwilling on the BBBJ. These night time clubs may be worth it but the real action doesn't seem to start until 11 PM.
Sept. 5 - Sunday.
Flew to Cartagena on a 2:25 PM flight. Flying time only 45 minutes. Then only a 20 minute ride from the airport to the Hotel Playa Club in Bocagrande.
Was hot and humid in Cartagena as expected. After settling in to my hotel room I made a walk to the beach in the late afternoon. Right behind the hotel on the beach side a couple of somewhat rough looking difficult to understand touts found me, offering to help me find anything I might need. I wasn't expecting much, but they came through in just minutes!
The chica they found for me was quite a pleasant sight. Curvy, medium height girl from Barranquilla. Her father she said was of pure white Spanish ancestry, and her mother was black.
She had blue eyes that were practically the same color as mine. Very unusual for her medium light black skin tone but they looked appropriate on her as her features were not very dark. She was very good looking in the face by my picky standards. Perhaps an 8. We sat down on beach chairs and the touts brought us a couple of beers which were "free" that I of course realized would become expensive later.
She said she was 26 which was believable but if she had said 20 that would have been believable too. Had graduated college with a Business degree. No tattoos. As we talked she stared in to my eyes with a very seductive gaze and a kind of upbeat classy demeanor. Wow!
For a girl of this quality I realized I was probably low balling when I offered her 200 k for an hour. She politely turned that down. Eventually we settled on 350 k pesos for one hour plus a 50 k propina if it was good. That included BBBJ and DFK which at first she said she wouldn't do. Some might think I'm ruining the local market paying these kind of prices but I'm sure I'm not. This was a special case.
I paid the touts 50 k for their "free" beer. And we were off to the hotel. I know I was taking a small chance by not checking her in at the front desk but we slipped by to my room no problem.
From there this fine looking Colombiana completely lived up to expectations with passionate DFK, BBBJ, regular sex with condom and even CIM! (which had not been discussed up front). Never discussed pictures up front either but got a few of those too even including a full body and face pic which I will cherish since it perfectly captured her personality and smile.
She said she had been making very respectable money as a web cam girl and so that's perhaps why she wasn't paranoid about face pics. However, she still told me not to share them.
After the hour was up we talked for another half hour. A chore for me at my level of Spanish but I mostly kept up. She mentioned that she also provided multi hour, all day and or including all night sessions for double or triple what I had just paid Not my thing and especially not at those prices but we exchanged whatsapp in any case.
In text messages we exchanged the next day she said she would be going to Delerium with a friend. Is this a pick up club? Didn't look like one online but maybe it's become one? Perhaps someone reading this can answer that question. S.
She left me that night with me thinking I'd go broke if what I just had was a typical mongering experience! LOL.
Sept. 6 - Monday.
Another tourism day. Went to the walled City in the early morning and gave myself a self guided 2-3 hour tour. Was not very crowded as I had feared. I'd recommend this activity if you like Spanish colonial towns. Afterwards, I needed the exercise so walked all the way back to the hotel. About 3 miles.
That afternoon I checked out the beach scene again and went for a swim in the nice warm water. Some touts found me again but I particularly searched out Tony and found him eventually. He wears a green #19 Jersey with the name Antonio on it and is overweight just as described.
I don't know if I was really required to pay him 20 k for my beach seats with umbrella but I did. He brought over 3 to 4 chicas a couple of which I'd rate as Ok but not great. One was asking for 300 k per hour although I think I could have probably gotten that down to 200 k. I don't know if the price was inflated by Tony. Tony must have given up on me after that and after no further introductions for 20 minutes, I left. I'm not sure why Tony is a legend but every other tout you meet on the beach calls himself Tony so he must be. LOL.
I was able to find chicas on my own more successfully and at better prices than with Tony's help. Of course that does require at least basic Spanish. A couple of beach chicas I found agreed to 150 k per hour including BBBJ. One chica in particular had a decent amount of appeal and I probably would have gone for it on another day. But I kept looking for something a little better and never found it. Nothing I found was nearly in the same league as on my first day.
Another tout found me in the later evening and convinced me to go to Casa Rosilla. Said there would be 20 fine women there and it was only 15 minutes away. That was all a lie. Taxi ride took over 30 minutes in heavy traffic and the driver dropped me and the tout off. When we got there there were only 2 women and that part of town, close to the cruise ships, was a bit scary looking too. One of the two available had some appeal but wanted 300 k for an hour and would not agree to BBBJ.
I cut my losses and decided to go back to the hotel as the whole situation was beginning to feel even a bit dangerous. Another long ride back to the hotel for 20 k during which time he tried to sell me on cocaine and other drugs but I wasn't about to take a chance on that. He acted pretty angry at my offer to give him 10 k for his trouble even though he deserved nothing and I was very happy to be rid of him for 20 k. I was an idiot, and should have realized not to accept anything "free" from anyone!
Probably should have gone to the clock tower that night but I knew the good action probably wouldn't start until after 10 PM and I had an early flight back to Medellin the next morning.
Sept. 7 - Tuesday.
Flight back to Medellin. Got back to my Laureles hotel at 1 PM. Managed to arrange a date at the hotel via whatsapp with the first Eros girl who had unexpectedly contacted me the day before. She promised DFK this time. 150 k for an hour plus taxi. She tried hard to get me to do a trio with her friend for an extra 100 k but I passed. Our 3 PM date ended up being at 4 PM which by local standards meant she had come an hour early! . LOL.
This girl ended up being somewhat of a surprise in her personality from what I had recalled from the first session. She was no longer working at Eros due to some problem in getting paid the explanation for which I couldn't understand and she was now independent.
Upon arrival she helped herself to mini bar snacks and to the coke in my mini fridge to use as a chaser for the bottle of rum she had brought. She encouraged me to do shots along with her as she turned up the Latin music on the TV too loud. Then she made a bad impression by asking for the money upfront. That's always a bad sign. I wisely declined to pay and she backed off on the request.
We got down to the main event at that point. The BBBJ and sex was was quite good once again but then the DFK was completely lacking in violation of the agreement! This is why I don't pay up front and would have been perfectly happy to end the date if she had insisted! Foolishly, I agreed to a propina for better DFK but not worth it as the DFK was still sub par. Still overall, a good session.
I gave her a 30 k propina and 50 k for the taxi as agreed for a total of 230 k. At that point she seemed to not have much desire to leave even beginning to roll a joint which she said was for the road. .
I was getting some pretty good Spanish lessons as the date went 45 minutes over. She complimented me with expressions I can't well translate but she also sensed correctly that the feeling was not entirely mutual. LOL. Funny how much gets communicated even in the absence of good language skills. Although she had a body to die for and looked attractive in the face too, I just prefer the demure types much more than the hard drinking and partying types.
Sept. 8th. Wednesday.
Had to attend to some remote work and personal issues for most of the day. That afternoon I walked down to Carrera 70, the main bar and restaurant area looking for some packaged coffee to bring back home. I ran in to a charming young vendor of postres toting around a large container and after turning down a postre asked her advice on how to find the packaged coffee I was looking for.
Quickly offered her a 2 k tip for being so helpful. One thing led to another and she accompanied me to a grocery store near by where I made the purchase. She was just a tremendous amount of fun to talk to and we were even laughing together.
We spent the next hour and a half or so talking while sipping coffee and a gaseosa, (soft drink), I told her I'd pay her 40 k to make up for the lost postre sales.
There seemed to be a hint of attraction in the air that was building, (or was it attraction to my money! Which eventually became unambiguous. Yes, I was not imaging this! Problem is that even though she had the body of a smoking hot 22 year old, she had the face of someone not necessarily even 18. Although she did claim to be 18.
But no cedula! Age of consent is pretty low in Colombia but there's more than one way for something like this to go south so I wisely passed. Damn!
Sept. 9th. Thursday.
Checked out the Pablo Escobar museum tour. Tour only lasted about an hour and a half. Was over priced at $46 but I did learn a little. More remote work that afternoon.
Sept. 10th Friday.
Caught my midnight flight back home through Mexico City. Flight took off on time and landed in Mexico City. Customs was a little slow and then the process of scanning baggage was very very slow and I missed my connecting flight!
What a mess! Reminded me of other Latin American experiences. Super slow hotel check ins even when there's no problems. Very slow service in restaurants and pharmacies even in the presence of large numbers of employees and few customers. I have to remind myself that I'm not in a hurry here! LOL.
My original connecting flight was at 6:30 am and the new one was at 11:30 am. I used the time to write more of this trip report. Made it back to Tijuana about 1 PM local time. No covid test required to then cross back in to the USA!
Couldn't get a straight answer out of Aeromexico or anyone else before hand so this was a relief when I finally crossed over without the negative covid test. The airport exists on both sides of the border and is set up to make crossing back in to the USA Easy!
Comparing Medellin to Bogota and Cali which I'd already visited, I'm not sure I have a strong preference for any one city over the other now. Bogota and Cali are better in that they don't have as many tourists. Medellin looks better as it sits in a scenic valley however the air quality and or haziness and cloudiness of the skies detracts from that.
I'd give the edge to Bogota in mongering quality for what you pay. The Bogota Santa Fe area beats the Medellin Centro area. Cali chicas treat you better as you're more of a novelty without so many tourists around, but not as much to do in Cali and the weather can be pretty hot.
I was tempted by the online prepagos. Just hard to pull the trigger on that without face pics which they would rarely provide. Facebook seemed possible although difficult since I did not want to provide much info or face pic in my own profile. Has anyone had success with using Tinder anonymously and without face pic profile?
In summary, I don't think you can go wrong anywhere in Colombia. Now I just need to figure out a way to spend more time down there!I don't go through Mexico anymore when I fly to Colombia, although I live in San diego. Aeromexico is on my red list since they tried to have me pay twice the price right before boarding at night in Colombia saying that my ticket payment ID not go through which was complete BS. I had to pay and got a refund 2 months later with no apologies. Even Avianca has turned sour since their near bankruptcy; like you, they delayed my flight to make sure I missed my connection flight.
I now fly exclusively with US companies for international to latin america; except low cost like SPIRIT, they are more reliable.
The Tall Man
09-12-21, 23:46
Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.What a great post trip report, so much damn detail and thank you for the shout out to the Tall Man (me) who was able to offer some advice that was useful for you when you were in my home city of Medellin.
So as I read about your Cartagena chica, one hour for 350 mil then the 50 mil tip for the finders fee, ouch we all have different size pockets for sure.
Yes our Colombia has much to offer in both chicas and also the touristy things to do.
And the biggest contributing factor for me deciding 5 years ago to make Medellin my home versus Cali or Bogota or Cartagena boils down to the climate, I can wear shorts and a tank top in my apartment day and night and never the need for AC or home heating.
The Tall Man.
Hi,
I like to play Beachvolleyball and swim some lanes, what are the best places for that? I think the Estadio Sports Complex is one of that places, is it open? Any restrictions?
Is Medellin suitable for biking (at least the flat parts)?Biking is iffy, your basically road kill. As far as swimming, no problem getting wet!
Forget Estadio unless your staying close by. Go to Unitad Deportes in Bellen it's a large sports complex with a recreational and Olympic pool. Hours 8 AM to 4 PM weekdays, best time before noon and after 1 PM on weekdays. Weekends open at 8 AM but no free swimming until 11 AM due to classes. They keep the pool cool, perfect for swimming laps and it's expensive at 8,500 COP to use. Great staff and they will guard your belongings in the office.
SankarShetty
09-13-21, 01:33
Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.
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I'd give the edge to Bogota in mongering quality for what you pay. The Bogota Santa Fe area beats the Medellin Centro area. Cali chicas treat you better as you're more of a novelty without so many tourists around, but not as much to do in Cali and the weather can be pretty hot.
I was tempted by the online prepagos. Just hard to pull the trigger on that without face pics which they would rarely provide. Facebook seemed possible although difficult since I did not want to provide much info or face pic in my own profile. Has anyone had success with using Tinder anonymously and without face pic profile?
In summary, I don't think you can go wrong anywhere in Colombia. Now I just need to figure out a way to spend more time down there!Damn! Excellent report!
Have you been to Bogota recently? (post covid) If yes, would you still give Bogota edge over Medellin?
LoveItHere69
09-13-21, 01:41
True, not all cheap girls are good. But to the contrary, many, many of the expensive girls are not good. They get lazy and spoiled. If a girl wears too much fake Gucci, the&G, etc. And / or bathes in make-up and / or is a silicone addict, that's a huge read flag for me. I would not be interested in them even if they would accept 150.See Mr. E it is not about the $5 but with idiots paying too much it ruins damn near everything. The girls can now afford to lather on too much makeup, throw on a bunch of tattoos, fake parts, expect taxi rides when only 3 blocks away, come when they want not when you want, and the list goes on.
I respect subject matter experts and I never claimed to be one. I'm a monger, I have a mongering soul. I am second generation monger, it's in my DNA. I am the Scorpion in the Frog and Scorpion fable. I don't tolerate posers and pretenders.
I did not come to Medellin to monger. I did not even know Medellin was a mongering destination until after I arrived. That should tell you a lot.Yes, it tells me a lot. A second generation monger that has mongering in his DNA but neither you nor your daddy knew Medellin was a mongering destination? Did daddy not teach junior well? Priceless.
BlackThought
09-13-21, 03:00
In summary, I don't think you can go wrong anywhere in Colombia. Now I just need to figure out a way to spend more time down there!Wow that was a long trip report, but well worth the read! Cartagena tends to cost more than Medellin for prepagos. Glad you had a great time and ignore the people that gives you shit for "overpaying".
BlackThought
09-13-21, 03:09
The most important aspect of this forum is information about where women are, and the second most important question is how much. When I say that I paid a 10 a $100 and was reamed for it on the board and then was hit it up for her number in private, what incentive does that create for me and other guys to be honest? If I do not want to be shamed on this forum, I either do not mention how much I paid or cut it in half, and that is what guys are going to do and are doing.Not sure why people would assume you're making up stories. As for the BS artist on this board that talks about smashing prepagos for free and steals photos from blogs, now that's questionable. When I have sex with a hot chick, I don't ask to take photos; not my thing.
ChuchoLoco
09-13-21, 03:11
I was wondering if someone would make that call. Good job. And your response was more than "just curious."Well, nice polite response impressed you didn't get pissed. I'm still "curious" but no big deal. No answer needed. Keep enjoying yourself and stay safe doing so.
GeneHickman
09-13-21, 03:13
Gents,
Can any of you recommend the highest (or at least high) end casa en Medellin, possibly en de Poblado area.
I visit Spa Fantasias last week which was nice, but yo creo here might be some others that I am miss.
Thanks for your advices.For on site sex If the eye candy department is what you need, the Loutron, La Isla strip club and Fase Dos in that order. All will be in the 300-350k peso range and YMMV in terms of service, but hey atleast you got eye candy. I personally go to the Smartfit for a workout or Santa Fe mall for a stroll when I feel like eye candy.
GeneHickman
09-13-21, 03:22
Yeah,. There is a market for cheap girls but not all cheap girls are good. I'm in contact with a lot of popular girls on Instagram and they aren't coming for 150 k because they don't need the money and they already have a stable of men that pay more- Colombian men.And have you had mind blowing sex with any of them? Equally would you admit to it every time you paid top dollar and got a starfish? Look, pay what you want to pay and do what you want, it's your money, but don't come and say it's the normal market rate. Because that ain't so.
I personally go to the Smartfit for a workout or Santa Fe mall for a stroll when I feel like eye candy.But did you pull any?
ColombiaLover
09-13-21, 04:04
Allow me to reply to myself. WHile most of these girls probably realize that their pussy is their tool, they won't admit it. I've had conversations with girl I know well about what exactly a gringo is paying for. They usually tell me they are paying for her time. I tell her, in a nice way, that her time is worth shit (especially these barrio girls who can't get a job and don't want one because they are too spoiled or lazy). And that the gringo is only paying for the services they can provide. And if the gringo is not happy with the service, he will go away, regardless of how much time you spend with him taking his free food, drugs, and booze.
. Deep down, most of these girls realize their pussies are just a "tool" to make money, just like laborers have tools and street vendors have tools.
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Mojo Bandit
09-13-21, 04:06
Thanks to all the contributors in the Medellin section and World Travel 69 (I'll refer to as WT 69). I came well prepared and am now giving back.
August 27th. Friday.
In summary, I don't think you can go wrong anywhere in Colombia. Now I just need to figure out a way to spend more time down there!Thank you DiegoSan4 for you lengthy report , very good reporting!! but to any an everyone else: it is not necessary to repost his whole thing report when you are replying to his post. Highlight and delete the parts that do not need to be reposted.
Anyone planning Medellin during end of October or November. Its boring to be alone in Medellin.You can call or send a whatsapp to Nick, he speaks perfect English and will help you around Medellin with tours, party supplies and best recommendations for girls.
+57305xxxx841.
You can call or send a whatsapp to Nick, he speaks perfect English and will help you around Medellin with tours, party supplies and best recommendations for girls.
+57305xxxx841.Since the contact number gets masked by ISG, it is not usable to contact Nick. Does Nick has facebook page or twitter to connect with him?
I contacted one uber guy, who is quoting me $50/ day for 4 hours of his wingman / guide service. It will cost me $350 per week, which I think is bit high. I am looking for more reasonable alternative. .
ISG fam. Without boring you guys with all the mini details, spent a week in Medellin first week of September and this was the updated intel I gathered while I was there. I'm a veteran of the Bangkok / Pattaya scene and this was my first time in Medellin so comparing my experiences to that. Also, a big thank you to a lot of the contributors on here who helped out a ton with their previous reports prior to myself getting there. These were some of my Medellin rookie mistakes and successes:
Compared to Bangkok / Pattaya, the Medellin scene is not as in your face. Everything is more discrete and under the radar with freelancers and unmarked casas. You have to go hunting and takes more effort versus Bangkok / Pattaya where everything is centralized. On top of that, you need a decent level of Spanish here or you're going to have a lot of awkward pauses and look like a fool pulling out your phone to use Google Translate every 2nd sentence. Unlike Thailand where most girls have a basic grasp of English, the average Colombian I encountered knew ZERO English or like one or two phrases.
Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them. Seeking I had a ton of matches and messages. There were so many that it was a little overwhelming so followed through on one and she met up at the designated time and place but I decided not to pull the trigger because she wasn't as hot as her photos suggested. It was the same girl but you could tell she touched up her photos a little. With Seeking, I see a lot of potential but the kicker is the $100 monthly subscription which allows you to message girls back. It's worth it but I'd recommend getting it two weeks or so before your trip so that it gives you time to match and you'll still have access to it while you're there. There's a lot of non-pros and hotties on there and I feel that you can get some great deals if you manage your logistics right. The one thing that would worry me a little is the flakiness of girls and them not showing up or showing up really late since this did happen to me 75% of the time I made arrangements with girls.
Girls at Lleras Parque were quoting US $100 for an hour, US $200 for 2 hours, and US $260 for "all night. " "All night" depended on the girl. Some said 5 am, others said whenever they wake up. The bouncers at Lleras Parque were a little sketchy. During the slow days, they let you in without hassle but on the weekends if you try to get there around 1030 or so, they try to charge you a cover of 20 k COP and if you come with a group of guys, they make you try to buy a bottle. My advice is to not roll in with a group of dudes, get there early, buy a beer, scope the scene, and bounce if you don't like what you see. There were some lookers at Lleras Parque for sure.
Girls inside Gustos were quoting US $200 for 2 hours and US $300 for all night. Made a couple rounds around 1030-11 pm. There was a good selection of girls but not sure if it's worth US $200.
Freelancers outside of Gustos were quoting US $50 - $65 for an hour. Didn't ask for all night but there were a couple lookers the nights I walked up and down the street. There's a short-time hotel right behind Juancho Alitas restaurant next to Gustos that charges around US $30 for 3 hours if your hotel doesn't allow guests or charges more per guest than what the short-time hotel charges. It's safe and has all the basic amenities. Price is kind of steep but it's convenient.
Wednesday-Saturday seems like the best days to go with more selection and quality. Outside of that, it seemed a little dead.
Fase Dos was a waste of time but I went on a Sunday evening so maybe that could've been it. There were maybe about 15 girls or so, with two of them that I would say were hot but of course, both were swarmed by dudes by the time I got there.
La Isla was where it was at. Went twice, both times saw the same girls. Big club, good music, good vibes, and probably about 30-40 girls walking around doing their thing. Quality was pretty good. Beers were US strip club prices and girls were $75 for a 45-min session. One thing I didn't like were the girls walking around asking for tips (propina) after dancing. It's not mandatory and you don't need to give a tip if you don't want to.
Some miscellaneous non-girl info:
Rappi was a hit and miss. They don't take US-based credit cards after I tried inputting both my AmEx and Visa cards from different banks. I was able to pay in cash for my restaurant orders but when I tried to place orders for the grocery stores, Rappi would automatically cancel my grocery orders when the shopper tried to substitute one of my items when one of the items was out of stock. Seemed like there's some Rappi glitch that Rappi needs to figure out.
InDriver was a lifesaver. Multiple times I was not getting any luck with Uber during peak night hours so based on the rate I got on Uber, I'd quote 10% lower on InDriver and within a minute would have a driver ready to pick me up.
DON'T stay at the Charlee Hotel / Charlee Lifestyle. The logistics are great but for the price you're paying, you can get something way better. Either through AirBnB or another hotel nearby. The hotel is nice but they charge US $45 after the first girl you bring back to the hotel, no matter if you're staying a day or a week. PASS.
When flying out of Medellin, you need one of those blue or black medical masks to get through security. Security won't let you through even if you have an alternate face covering. Has to be a medical mask. Luckily a guy behind me had an extra one and gave me one.
Bring an umbrella if you're going around this time. Just random rain showers during the day and at night it would just start pouring.
Thanks for the report.
One thing I didn't like were the girls walking around asking for tips (propina) after dancing. It's not mandatory and you don't need to give a tip if you don't want to.That is how some girls make money. I would suggest to get waiter to exchange 50 mil of 2 mil bills. Tip each girl 2 mil and have some fun before giving her the tip.
I don't go through Mexico anymore when I fly to Colombia, although I live in San diego. Aeromexico is on my red list since they tried to have me pay twice the price right before boarding at night in Colombia saying that my ticket payment ID not go through which was complete BS. I had to pay and got a refund 2 months later with no apologies. Even Avianca has turned sour since their near bankruptcy; like you, they delayed my flight to make sure I missed my connection flight.
I now fly exclusively with US companies for international to latin america; except low cost like SPIRIT, they are more reliable.Had a similar experience years back with Aeromexico flying from Medellin to LA, had to go thru immigration in Mexico City and it was all jammed up and I missed my connection and the airline tried to charge me to get on the next flight. I will never fly on a a Mexican airline thru Mexico City to or from Medellin again.
As far as AVIANCA, well I had a very positive experience with them since the bankruptcy. I had a roundtrip ticket from MDE to LAX with the dates of March 15 and a return of March 19 in 2020 and when I flew back to LA on the 15th I did not return to MDE on the 19th due to the Pandemic.
I had a business class ticket and received a voucher from AVIANCA saying it would be good for a return flight thru 2021. Then the bankruptcy hit, everybody told me I was hosed, and that it would never be honored.
Well they did honor it, and I used it to fly back down here earlier this year.
Damn! Excellent report!
Have you been to Bogota recently? (post covid) If yes, would you still give Bogota edge over Medellin?Good question. No, I haven't been to Bogota post covid. From reading the forum, I could see that some of the casas shut down there just like in Medellin. Perhaps Woodman could weigh in how the Santa Fe area compares now to how it was pre covid when I visited. I'd guess close to being back to the same and even with the same low prices. I haven't gotten the impression that Bogota has gotten inflated such as Medellin has in the Parque Lleras area and high end clubs like Fase II and Islas but not sure on that.
True, not all cheap girls are good. But to the contrary, many, many of the expensive girls are not good. They get lazy and spoiled. If a girl wears too much fake Gucci, the&G, etc. And / or bathes in make-up and / or is a silicone addict, that's a huge read flag for me. I would not be interested in them even if they would accept 150.I don't think we are talking about the same girls. You are generalizing. Regardless of price good sex usually comes with a connection or compatibility. I'm not sure that cheaper girls give better service. It is true that on any given day a girl that normally demands whatever will go cheaper if she has a deadline.
And have you had mind blowing sex with any of them? Equally would you admit to it every time you paid top dollar and got a starfish? Look, pay what you want to pay and do what you want, it's your money, but don't come and say it's the normal market rate. Because that ain't so. I've paid top dollar maybe twice(300k). What's the difference between that and La Isla where by the time it's said and done it's 300+? They are both good. I'm sure I've given more than 200k including taxi a couple of times every trip. I won't miss the money. If we were being honest you would admit that not all girls that hear your spiel agree to meet and give you mind blowing sex. It works some of the time but not all the time. So in the end it's, to each his own.
ColombiaLover
09-13-21, 16:10
Yes, I am generalizing, but it seems to me you were also. As I read it, you seemed to imply that you get what you pay for and that somehow a more expensive girl gives you better service. I have found the opposite. Now if what you are trying to say is that a girl who usually charges more drops her price because she really needs the money. The service might not be as good because of the attitude that comes with it. Then I would be more likely to agree.
I do agree with you that good sex comes with some connection (or just a horny chica who truly enjoys sex).
I don't think we are talking about the same girls. You are generalizing. Regardless of price good sex usually comes with a connection or compatibility. I'm not sure that cheaper girls give better service. It is true that on any given day a girl that normally demands whatever will go cheaper if she has a deadline.
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SoberHans69
09-13-21, 16:18
My first night in Medellin was OK. I forgot how steep the hills are in El Poblado though, I'm knackered today.
Ended up in Parque Lleras and took a Venezuelan girl from the park bit but where everyone stands.
She was cute but curvy. Had a big ass, decent sized tits and a pretty face. There were a few cute girls around but none above a 7 I would say.
The girl originally asked for 250 and I just countered with 200, could have maybe got her down lower but I was really tired and just wanted to get someone quickly.
Hoping to get to El Centro today, would be great if any experienced El Centro veterans are about in the next few days to show me the ropes.
GeneHickman
09-13-21, 16:21
I've paid top dollar maybe twice(300k). What's the difference between that and La Isla where by the time it's said and done it's 300+? They are both good. I'm sure I've given more than 200k including taxi a couple of times every trip. I won't miss the money. If we were being honest you would admit that not all girls that hear your spiel agree to meet and give you mind blowing sex. It works some of the time but not all the time. So in the end it's, to each his own.Ok so now you seem to be agreeing. Price and looks / performance don't correlate. Go back and read your post, you were saying you were in contact with IG girls and they're not going for 150 mil and Colombian men pay more than that etc. And I am not even referring to paying the occasional 50 mil more for a must have. I think we all to some extent do that. But there are dudes getting quoted directly $US rates in Colombia and paying up $200, that's like 750 mil for a pop. You might as well at Loutron or La Isla where you can atleast see and sample the goods for less than 1/2 the price.
That line about 150mil and Colombian men is just not a true statement. The price they pay in the barrios is somewhere between free and a little spending money occasionally. Many FB girls are on IG. Nothing special about IG. Some IG girls with tons of followers have no intention of doing retail puta work, they may go for a out of sized offer but their income maybe off IG, same with web cam girls. Many of these girls would have been in the game in past decades but they have an outlet now. The market rate is however fairly consistent. But that doesn't mean girls don't try to get what they can. And if you don't mind paying for whatever reason, then she found her fish, and you may have found a starfish who wants to get it over with and part with the big payday.
Ok so now you seem to be agreeing. Price and looks / performance don't correlate. Go back and read your post, you were saying you were in contact with IG girls and they're not going for 150 mil and Colombian men pay more than that etc. And I am not even referring to paying the occasional 50 mil more for a must have. I think we all to some extent do that. But there are dudes getting quoted directly $US rates in Colombia and paying up $200, that's like 750 mil for a pop. You might as well at Loutron or La Isla where you can atleast see and sample the goods for less than 1/2 the price.The girls that quote in US $ are (as far as I know or have heard) are the girls at Gusto's or some around Parque Lleras. In the last 2 years that I lived here I've only had one FB girl quote me in US $ and that led to a "have a nice day" ending to our discussion.
However, I don't think you can really say price and performance aren't correlated. I think it is fair to say they may not be. But I attribute that to a very poor idea of how to negotiate with the girls. Sure, I probably over pay a lot of the time but I think I get extra and sometimes superb service when I do. How so??
Let's say I'm talking to a FB girl and she asks what I'm going to pay. I think she's desirable and I want her. So I tell her this. I am accustomed to paying 200 mil total. Obviously I tell her what I like to do in a cita. DFK, taking photos, BBBJ etc. She'll ask how much is the propina and I'll tell her that if you do all the things I like 20 mil. And if I have the best session of my life the total propina could be 50 mil.
She will usually come back with something like throw in taxis. I usually say fine.
Some will laugh and say these girls can't remember to bring their cedula they sure aren't going to remember the "deal" but when it comes to money their memory is usually pretty sharp.
So if a guy just offers way over market without any conditions, I would agree he will get a generic session that will be way overpriced. But if he sets the terms carefully and she understands how to maximize her earn, my experience has been that more than half will try to deliver their best to get the extra money.
OH and one other fine point. If they know you live here they try harder because they want the regular that they can message when they need rent. Vacationers? I don't think they feel any incentive to try harder.
Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them.I advise anyone on a short trip not to bother with Facebook. Most only check their accounts or read their work related messages when they are desperate for money. If some mark is sending them $500 retainers, then they are essentially off the market. Even when they answer some, many go radio silent or no show. Who knows why. Maybe you got outbid. More likely the landlord isn't breathing down her neck yet and she'd rather watch nouvellas or party with friends. Even those on longer trips may want to skip this venue. Their work ethic can be grossly overrated.
Rappi accepts USA Based credit cards. You should check with your card issuer to find out what problem you had.
ISG fam. Without boring you guys with all the mini details, spent a week in Medellin first week of September and this was the updated intel I gathered while I was there. I'm a veteran of the Bangkok / Pattaya scene and this was my first time in Medellin so comparing my experiences to that. Also, a big thank you to a lot of the contributors on here who helped out a ton with their previous reports prior to myself getting there. These were some of my Medellin rookie mistakes and successes:
Compared to Bangkok / Pattaya, the Medellin scene is not as in your face. Everything is more discrete and under the radar with freelancers and unmarked casas. You have to go hunting and takes more effort versus Bangkok / Pattaya where everything is centralized. On top of that, you need a decent level of Spanish here or you're going to have a lot of awkward pauses and look like a fool pulling out your phone to use Google Translate every 2nd sentence. Unlike Thailand where most girls have a basic grasp of English, the average Colombian I encountered knew ZERO English or like one or two phrases.
Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them. Seeking I had a ton of matches and messages. There were so many that it was a little overwhelming so followed through on one and she met up at the designated time and place but I decided not to pull the trigger because she wasn't as hot as her photos suggested. It was the same girl but you could tell she touched up her photos a little. With Seeking, I see a lot of potential but the kicker is the $100 monthly subscription which allows you to message girls back. It's worth it but I'd recommend getting it two weeks or so before your trip so that it gives you time to match and you'll still have access to it while you're there. There's a lot of non-pros and hotties on there and I feel that you can get some great deals if you manage your logistics right. The one thing that would worry me a little is the flakiness of girls and them not showing up or showing up really late since this did happen to me 75% of the time I made arrangements with girls..
Tantra Cra 80 #44 -139.
Comes up on Google maps and quick walk from Floresta metro station.
My Airbnb was where Avenue Nutibara and San Juan meet. $20 bucks, great patio, little noise. I did not ask about guests since I like to get a nice apartment and then do a love motel if needed. In the past other hosts have made it clear no ladies of the evening, there was no security guard so I could have tried if situation arouse. Others have suggested messaging host and making it clear you want to have guests, with so many Property listings someone will say yes.
Good report.
Facebook was a fail and Seeking was a minor success. Messaged 6 girls on FB that I "friended" before my trip to Medellin and didn't get a response from any of them. Seeking I had a ton of matches and messages. There were so many that it was a little overwhelming so followed through on one and she met up at the designated time and place but I decided not to pull the trigger because she wasn't as hot as her photos suggested. It was the same girl but you could tell she touched up her photos a little. With Seeking, I see a lot of potential but the kicker is the $100 monthly subscription which allows you to message girls back. It's worth it but I'd recommend getting it two weeks or so before your trip so that it gives you time to match and you'll still have access to it while you're there. There's a lot of non-pros and hotties on there and I feel that you can get some great deals if you manage your logistics right. The one thing that would worry me a little is the flakiness of girls and them not showing up or showing up really late since this did happen to me 75% of the time I made arrangements with girls.Facebook is a numbers game. 6 is too few. 60 would have been a better start. With just a few friends added nobody is seeing you. Especially if you don't have any friends in common amongst those 6.
I've rarely initiated conversation with Facebook girls. I just send the friend requests and keep adding. When I'm active on Facebook, I'll get a few girls contacting me every week. When I'm en route to Medellin, I post a relevant picture and the girls start hitting me up. I'll easily have 20 wanting to see me before I clear customs. Then I decide which ones I'm interested in.
Mr Enternational
09-13-21, 20:33
However, I don't think you can really say price and performance aren't correlated.Not in the least bit. Comparing apples to apples (meaning the same damn girl at different prices), I read this morning of a poster in the Bogota thread that met a Tinder chick. 200K. He said it was a horrible experience and they were done with each other after 45 min.
I met the same chick on Tinder last month and had a GFE blast with her. She stayed a couple of hours (left only because I had to leave to go meet up with another BM) and her initial offer to me was 150K and did not mention any of that taxi and tip bullshit either. I plan to see her again.
He paid the chick more and felt his money was wasted; I paid less and came out 100% satisfied with aspirations to repeat. And I hardly ever repeat with hookers. At 150K I totally got what I paid for. At 200K he felt he was ripped off. We were not there for the session that each other had, but from our subjective reports you can see that price had nothing to do with performance.
Another case in point. Last year when the pandemic shut everything down in Thailand, I met a chick on the street that said she normally works at the soapy massage place. There it costs like $70 for her. She came over to my house and blew my socks off for $15. BB everything CIP. And I have never heard of chicks in the soapies doing BB anything. I would not have gotten better performance had I met her at her job for 4 or 5 times the money.
Not in the least bit. Comparing apples to apples (meaning the same damn girl at different prices), I read this morning of a poster in the Bogota thread that met a Tinder chick. 200K. He said it was a horrible experience and they were done with each other after 45 min.
I met the same chick on Tinder last month and had a GFE blast with her. She stayed a couple of hours (left only because I had to leave to go meet up with another BM) and her initial offer to me was 150K and did not mention any of that taxi and tip bullshit either. I plan to see her again.
He paid the chick more and felt his money was wasted; I paid less and came out 100% satisfied with aspirations to repeat. And I hardly ever repeat with hookers. At 150K I totally got what I paid for. At 200K he felt he was ripped off. We were not there for the session that each other had, but from our subjective reports you can see that price had nothing to do with performance.
Another case in point. Last year when the pandemic shut everything down in Thailand, I met a chick on the street that said she normally works at the soapy massage place. There it costs like $70 for her. She came over to my house and blew my socks off for $15. BB everything CIP. And I have never heard of chicks in the soapies doing BB anything. I would not have gotten better performance had I met her at her job for 4 or 5 times the money.Sorry Mr. E that isn't even close to an apples to apples comparison. Sure the girl was the same one and the prices differed but don't you recognize that there are other variables in play? Here let me throw a few possibilities:
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Maybe he saw her after she had had 2 dates and was just exhausted and sore. While you saw her when she was fresh.
Maybe he treated her like shit and you treated her better.
What I'm trying to point out is that there are a lot of variables in performance. Money is just one of them. So you can say money is not correlated to performance but since there are always other factors that will affect performance YMMV. I find that my using an incentive to coax out good performance works for me.
Elvis 2008
09-13-21, 23:41
Had a similar experience years back with Aeromexico flying from Medellin to LA, had to go thru immigration in Mexico City and it was all jammed up and I missed my connection and the airline tried to charge me to get on the next flight. I will never fly on a a Mexican airline thru Mexico City to or from Medellin again.One fucked up thing about going through Mexico is when you go from the USA through Mexico, you do not have to have your bag searched. It can be checked right through. When you are flying up from South America to the USA, probably because of concerns with drugs, you do have to recheck your bag.
Personally, I was seeing ridiculously cheap flights (100) from Miami and Fort Lauderdale to Colombia, so for guys in the Central and Eastern part of the USA, that is the way to go. I do not know why but if you fly American Airlines, it is often half price to do two one ways through Miami than book directly to Colombia. I booked DFW to MIA and then MIA to CTG and got a $200 total one way fare instead of $400 with DFW to CTG. I do not know why.
If you live on the West Coast, I think that Tijuana route is great because you have no Covid tests, no baggage layovers, and the Mexican fares are usually cheap.
Wingo Airlines has really cheap fares to and from Mexico and they are a nice airline that does not often show up on searches.
And I just saw some great prices from Volaris to and from Colombia from Mexico as well.
It is nice to see cheap fares again. Things were nuts for a while.
Anyone here risk flying Spirit and live to tell about it?
GeneHickman
09-14-21, 00:43
Rappi accepts USA Based credit cards. You should check with your card issuer to find out what problem you had.This was discussed a couple of months ago. They do accept US cards, however when you are registering your card, they send a small fictitious charge to your card account, you have to check that amount on your card website and put that amount into the app before the card is set up to work in the app. I had a minor incident first up before I figured this out, when I ordered food on the app it arrived but defaulted to effectivo (which I did not have). Luckily I was with a SA sweetheart who paid the rest from her purse till we went over to the ATM.
GeneHickman
09-14-21, 00:50
I advise anyone on a short trip not to bother with Facebook. Most only check their accounts or read their work related messages when they are desperate for money. If some mark is sending them $500 retainers, then they are essentially off the market. Even when they answer some, many go radio silent or no show. Who knows why. Maybe you got outbid. More likely the landlord isn't breathing down her neck yet and she'd rather watch nouvellas or party with friends. Even those on longer trips may want to skip this venue. Their work ethic can be grossly overrated.All the more reason to cast your net wide on FB and don't fixate on any one chica. A sample size of 6 is abysmal, and if you get to 60 it won't stop there. I don't mine any more and I am picky in who I add, subjectively for looks I find attractive, and even so I am over 600 friends, far more than my real account, and I don't even have my picture on the page except when I am there in town.
Agree however their punctuality, flakiness and general unreliability is a huge turn off. Certainly better on repeats but bad generally.
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What I'm trying to point out is that there are a lot of variables in performance. Money is just one of them. So you can say money is not correlated to performance but since there are always other factors that will affect performance YMMV. I find that my using an incentive to coax out good performance works for me.If money matters that much, the the expensive clubs will have the best performers on average. I go to both expensive and cheap places and as far as sex is concerned, I don't see that. I have taken girls from the most expensive club in Sao Paulo recently. I am paying like half or a quarter of some other clients are paying based on what she told me after. I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.
Mr Enternational
09-14-21, 02:44
I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.I don't either. It is like if we were playing a game of dominos and I offered you money to play better. How much better could you possibly play? Some people are really good at things, some people are really horrible at things, and most people are just average at things.
BlackThought
09-14-21, 02:48
OH and one other fine point. If they know you live here they try harder because they want the regular that they can message when they need rent. Vacationers? I don't think they feel any incentive to try harder.Very good point there as it's evident with those that live in MDE have a fixed price with regulars.
BlackThought
09-14-21, 02:56
Personally, I was seeing ridiculously cheap flights (100) from Miami and Fort Lauderdale to Colombia, so for guys in the Central and Eastern part of the USA, that is the way to go. I do not know why but if you fly American Airlines, it is often half price to do two one ways through Miami than book directly to Colombia. I booked DFW to MIA and then MIA to CTG and got a $200 total one way fare instead of $400 with DFW to CTG. I do not know why.That's how the airline algorithms work. Google "skiplagged", airlines are suing this service.
FlagRunner77
09-14-21, 02:59
All the more reason to cast your net wide on FB and don't fixate on any one chica. A sample size of 6 is abysmal, and if you get to 60 it won't stop there. I don't mine any more and I am picky in who I add, subjectively for looks I find attractive, and even so I am over 600 friends, far more than my real account, and I don't even have my picture on the page except when I am there in town.
Agree however their punctuality, flakiness and general unreliability is a huge turn off. Certainly better on repeats but bad generally.Probably a stupid question (sorry). Are you keeping a separate FB account for chicas? I tried to open a separate profile and it was blocked within minutes. I don't want my family seeing all the chicas who are suddenly becoming my friends!
What a great post trip report, so much damn detail and thank you for the shout out to the Tall Man (me) who was able to offer some advice that was useful for you when you were in my home city of Medellin.
So as I read about your Cartagena chica, one hour for 350 mil then the 50 mil tip for the finders fee, ouch we all have different size pockets for sure.
Yes our Colombia has much to offer in both chicas and also the touristy things to do.
And the biggest contributing factor for me deciding 5 years ago to make Medellin my home versus Cali or Bogota or Cartagena boils down to the climate, I can wear shorts and a tank top in my apartment day and night and never the need for AC or home heating.
The Tall Man.I hear you on that Tall Man. If I become fortunate enough to move to Colombia, I might prefer Medellin just for the weather too. The Cartagena chica was the most I paid on this trip. But it reminded me, I was never a bigger bargain to my employer than in the year in which I made about 30% more than normal. There's the price and then there's' what you get for it. That's not to imply that you get more just because you pay more though. For example, the Bar Ejecutiva which you like and I did too is an example of very possibly getting more while paying less.
If money matters that much, the the expensive clubs will have the best performers on average. I go to both expensive and cheap places and as far as sex is concerned, I don't see that. I have taken girls from the most expensive club in Sao Paulo recently. I am paying like half or a quarter of some other clients are paying based on what she told me after. I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.You nailed it.
More money might mean better opportunity. It opens doors that would not have opened otherwise. But once you are in, what you may find inside would be altogether a different ball game. She may be a better looking provider, or a provider that provides better service or a provider that wants to limit her exposure by using the money scale to filter the herd or she may be a lousy provider who does it because she can.
One fucked up thing about going through Mexico is when you go from the USA through Mexico, you do not have to have your bag searched. It can be checked right through. When you are flying up from South America to the USA, probably because of concerns with drugs, you do have to recheck your bag.
Personally, I was seeing ridiculously cheap flights (100) from Miami and Fort Lauderdale to Colombia, so for guys in the Central and Eastern part of the USA, that is the way to go. I do not know why but if you fly American Airlines, it is often half price to do two one ways through Miami than book directly to Colombia. I booked DFW to MIA and then MIA to CTG and got a $200 total one way fare instead of $400 with DFW to CTG. I do not know why.
If you live on the West Coast, I think that Tijuana route is great because you have no Covid tests, no baggage layovers, and the Mexican fares are usually cheap.
Wingo Airlines has really cheap fares to and from Mexico and they are a nice airline that does not often show up on searches.
And I just saw some great prices from Volaris to and from Colombia from Mexico as well.
It is nice to see cheap fares again. Things were nuts for a while.
Anyone here risk flying Spirit and live to tell about it?I have booked Spirit for less than $300 are / T with checked in bag. This is might first time to Colombia and first time using Spirit. What are the typical risks and pitfalls of flying Spirit?
All the more reason to cast your net wide on FB and don't fixate on any one chica. A sample size of 6 is abysmal, and if you get to 60 it won't stop there. I don't mine any more and I am picky in who I add, subjectively for looks I find attractive, and even so I am over 600 friends, far more than my real account, and I don't even have my picture on the page except when I am there in town.
Agree however their punctuality, flakiness and general unreliability is a huge turn off. Certainly better on repeats but bad generally.Thanks for the tip and agree I should've cast a wider net but how many are you adding and how many have accepted? I think I've added about 200 girls and I'm pretty picky as well and only around 25 have accepted my friend requests over the past month. Seems like a slog and not worth the time and effort when I get more matches and results faster and with less effort through Seeking.
This was discussed a couple of months ago. They do accept US cards, however when you are registering your card, they send a small fictitious charge to your card account, you have to check that amount on your card website and put that amount into the app before the card is set up to work in the app. I had a minor incident first up before I figured this out, when I ordered food on the app it arrived but defaulted to effectivo (which I did not have). Luckily I was with a SA sweetheart who paid the rest from her purse till we went over to the ATM.So I was able to verify the small charge on my account and even gave notice to my bank that I would be using these cards in Colombia and still would receive an error message. It also doesn't explain why Rappi would automatically cancel my grocery orders after I had selected that I would pay in cash upon delivery. No notice or message that my order was cancelled or anything. It just goes from "Shopper is selecting your products" or something in that regard to a black hole of nothingness and zero info after 30 minutes.
Anyone here risk flying Spirit and live to tell about it?I have flown from Fla to MED on American once, on Viva (Colombian Airline) once and Spirit twice, I like Spirit just fine for a low cost airline, no issues so far.
ColombiaLover
09-14-21, 04:44
Spirit gets a lot of crap and I am sure some of it is deserved. But I've not had issues with them. They are the only direct flight from MCO to MDE, so fly them for that, if not anything else. Otherwise, I have to drive to FLL. Or take American or Copa from MCO through Miami and Panama City, respectively. I don't like changes of plane for such a relatively short flight.
The Spirit planes I've been on lately have been new. I don't mind paying for a can of Coke. I buy my aisle seat and pay for baggage, but it's usually still cheap. The flights from / to Orlando tend to run on time or even early.
Even during the Sprit meltdown when they were cancelling flights all over, my flights to and from Medellin went without a hitch. And if you have to change your Spirit reservation, they simply take what you paid and apply is to your other flight. No change fees. I really can't complain at all.
I have booked Spirit for less than $300 are / T with checked in bag. This is might first time to Colombia and first time using Spirit. What are the typical risks and pitfalls of flying Spirit?
I have booked Spirit for less than $300 are / T with checked in bag. This is might first time to Colombia and first time using Spirit. What are the typical risks and pitfalls of flying Spirit?I am not an expert on Spirit but have used them on my recent trip.
First, you need on-line check in 24 hours prior in order to avoid the fees and make sure baggage fee is paid when booking the flight (cost more when paying at the airport).
And, make sure to arrive at the airport three hours before since check-in takes forever, especially in Medellin airport coming back to the states.
Other than that, flight was on-time and nothing to worry about.
LoveItHere69
09-14-21, 05:05
I have booked Spirit for less than $300 are / T with checked in bag. This is might first time to Colombia and first time using Spirit. What are the typical risks and pitfalls of flying Spirit?The more connections the more chance of problems. Some of their flights have a very fast connection of an hour so customers miss their connection trying to get across the airport to catch their connecting flight.
My Spirit flight landed 10 minutes early but we could not get an empty gate to unload because some other plane had issues. So we ended up waiting 20 minutes so ended up being 10 minutes late. The next gate had been moved (unknown to some of us running across the airport to the wrong gate). Flight missed. 2 hour wait. So choose a 1.5 - 2.0 hour rather than 1 hour plane change.
Elvis 2008
09-14-21, 07:56
I simply don't see how she can perform better with more money. I am sure she would choose more money if she is presented with that option. More money probably give you better opportunity.Nounce,
When the travel ban was in effect (when I thought it would be short) I helped out some women out. I thought if money would ever have an effect it would then when the women really needed it and there were very few gringos around. I figured some women would just forget about my being generous the second they got the cash, and some did, and that is what I would expect almost all women to do in a normal situation.
I think the performance went up a little due to the cash, but I think was more out of appreciation than payment. Some women were in really bad shape then. Every woman I paid showed up (one was late by a day) and all but one went bare with me. Looking back on it, what the money did get me was availability and trust / going bare but not really performance. There were two women I never would have met unless I gave them a little money to keep my place waiting.
I will say though the one thing that did have an effect, and that was a play on self-worth with a sugar baby. I had a prospect who was a great girl but lousy in bed, and she hit me up for cash after we first met. She didn't kiss or give BJs and was like "That is gross. I do not do that. " I told her that I was paying for a woman to please me and giving me a BJ and kissing me pleased me and why would I hang around her when she didn't give a shit about pleasing me.
She promised to do better, and the next time I saw her she was great and fucked the shit out of me bare. She didn't do a BJ or DFK but she promised she would try in the future. I gave her up because of better prospects but the one thing that definitely got me better performance was being critical of how a women performed. I am not sure that would work with a ho though.
Elvis 2008
09-14-21, 08:17
Spirit gets a lot of crap and I am sure some of it is deserved. But I've not had issues with them. They are the only direct flight from MCO to MDE, so fly them for that, if not anything else. Otherwise, I have to drive to FLL. Or take American or Copa from MCO through Miami and Panama City, respectively. I don't like changes of plane for such a relatively short flight.And that flight one way is $59 to MDE right now. LOL. I looked at the other airlines and could not find a flight from Florida to Colombia that was over $100. I hope whatever is happening stays this way.
... I'm pretty picky as well and only around 25 have accepted my friend requests over the past month. ...Not sure what you mean by picky. You can think about it as making connections which helps you get both desirable and non desirable friends much faster. It's work if you study their profiles before friend request, but you don't even need to read their profiles to add them so it should be easy. 200 requests is fewer than the friends many have here.
GeneHickman
09-14-21, 13:28
Thanks for the tip and agree I should've cast a wider net but how many are you adding and how many have accepted? I think I've added about 200 girls and I'm pretty picky as well and only around 25 have accepted my friend requests over the past month. Seems like a slog and not worth the time and effort when I get more matches and results faster and with less effort through Seeking.I think maybe 1/3 accept, more if you put up content and pictures of yourself, something you need to assess yours comfort level with. Also more accept when I am in town, and when we have friends in common. I also get friend requests sometimes from their other friends after I session. The chicas have their networks and refer/review mongers amongst themselves too. So over time it builds. Other have suggested the mansion as a start, though I did not go this route, it's not a bad way to get familiar with the Medellin scene for a relatively affordable price. As I always say, that intel is worth nearly as much as money in this game. I have a separate FB account and often toggle between the two on my phone, without issue this far. I've tried SA in Medellin and though I will not not knock anyone for using it, if the plan is p4 p it's not as good as FB IMHO. If looking for some sort of trophy arrangement perhaps, but good luck with that with a colombiana. I have not found the casa quality or performance to be up to my expectations other than on a couple sessions.
CollegeKidJay
09-14-21, 13:33
Hahahhahahahahahaa jesus christ dude, PM me and use the search function on the forum.It appears I'm still a peasant here and need to get paid membership first. I'll slide in your DMs once I figure that out hahaa appreciate the follow up.
Every once in a while there is a post like this from a Greengo like you. For the few that bother to report back it's a big let down and the analysis starts. Save yourself the trouble, RTFF and set you expectations reasonably, plan well, no dar pappaya and ask here for any specific advise after you do all that. If you are in any doubt, read the CTG thread as there was a similar experience from a dubliner who had a crappy experience. Wise up, there is time yet.I read that thread you mentioned and haven't cringed as hard as that in the longest time; I'm pretty dumb but that's some next level shit. In terms of planning I'd say, after reading through this forum semi-religiously the past few weeks -- I'm pretty comfortable with my first 10 days for the time being. I think a lot of it is going to be a bit improvised with first time shenanigans but would you have any advice on a multiple day GF type relationship as a first timer in MDE -- or is it better to just be a kid at the candy store and figure out what I want. I'm personally hesitant about the multiday GF thing but I'm mainly using it as a way to get a guide, learn a bit about the city and have someone to go out with at night.
The Tall Man
09-14-21, 14:36
I think maybe 1/3 accept, more if you put up content and pictures of yourself, something you need to assess yours comfort level with. Also more accept when I am in town, and when we have friends in common. I also get friend requests sometimes from their other friends after I session. The chicas have their networks and refer/review mongers amongst themselves too. So over time it builds. Other have suggested the mansion as a start, though I did not go this route, it's not a bad way to get familiar with the Medellin scene for a relatively affordable price. As I always say, that intel is worth nearly as much as money in this game. I have a separate FB account and often toggle between the two on my phone, without issue this far. I've tried SA in Medellin and though I will not not knock anyone for using it, if the plan is p4 p it's not as good as FB IMHO. If looking for some sort of trophy arrangement perhaps, but good luck with that with a colombiana. I have not found the casa quality or performance to be up to my expectations other than on a couple sessions.Lets face and all get real here, at the end of the day we all are basically fucking the same chicas, some right after the next slinging dick while others are a week or month or even a few years later.
Sharing is caring and so basically we all share the girls.
I have seen this played out so many times as I live in Medellin for almost 5 years now. Just one very recent example and I have dozens and dozens of these is my special girl who stayed with me in my apartment for 7 months during the lock down last year, my gawd 7 months with 2 cute sweethearts at my beckon call day or night, well she finally found a gringo guy from Miami early this year, he looks like a cool guy so hats off and hope they are good to each other. Again just one recent example which I see weekly now.
Never forget guys, "she is not your girl rather it's only your turn" and this is so true especially here in Colombia.
Much love and respect to all!
The Tall Man.
Just Incognito
09-14-21, 14:44
Probably a stupid question (sorry). Are you keeping a separate FB account for chicas? I tried to open a separate profile and it was blocked within minutes. I don't want my family seeing all the chicas who are suddenly becoming my friends!You do not have to friend chicas on Facebook. You can just private message with them--most of them prefer WhatsApp anyway, so switch to there as soon as you can.
You gain nothing by friending these girls. The point is to find them and message with them, not to see what they post on their timelines or for them to be able to snoop your profile.
If you are not friends with them. You can message them and they can message you just the same.
I have never understood wy so many of you insist on 'friending' these girls and then spend so much energy trying to work around that when there is zero reson to be friends with them in the 1st place.
Find a girl you like on FB, send her a private message. She will respond or not--they don't care if you are 'friends' or not they care if you pay them a rate that works for them--and that's all figured out in messenger and WhatsAPp not on Facebook timelines and walls.
Friending these girls is pretty stupid IMO and I don't understand how, for years, I seem to be one of very very few people who thinks this way.
Litmus Smut
09-14-21, 20:10
Questions to the seasoned, to the expats, the long-terms in Medellin:
* What is late October like in Medellin from October 18 to November 7 range?
** Temperature and seasonal atmosphere?
I've heard the "City of Eternal Spring" mentioned more than once so temperature wise it should be fine, but is it rainy everyday?
** Are there Colombian holidays to consider that really shuts down the city, its women?
Are there national or religious holidays that cripple the city.
** How does Colombia treat Halloween?
I've been in Europe for several Halloweens. If there are expat bar, they push it and the Euros arrive and love a good costume party. Great atmosphere in the cities and it seems to have grown. Any idea how Halloween is regarded in Medellin?
You do not have to friend chicas on Facebook. You can just private message with them--most of them prefer WhatsApp anyway, so switch to there as soon as you can.
You gain nothing by friending these girls. The point is to find them and message with them, not to see what they post on their timelines or for them to be able to snoop your profile.
If you are not friends with them. You can message them and they can message you just the same.
I have never understood wy so many of you insist on 'friending' these girls and then spend so much energy trying to work around that when there is zero reson to be friends with them in the 1st place.
Find a girl you like on FB, send her a private message. She will respond or not--they don't care if you are 'friends' or not they care if you pay them a rate that works for them--and that's all figured out in messenger and WhatsAPp not on Facebook timelines and walls.
Friending these girls is pretty stupid IMO and I don't understand how, for years, I seem to be one of very very few people who thinks this way.I've learned that if everyone is going one direction and I'm going the other direction there's a good chance I'm going the wrong way.
If you have to worry that friends, family or your employer will find out you're mongering in Colombia, stay off Facebook and stay out of Colombia, because there will always be a risk your activities will be discovered.
If you're going to use Facebook, you're not really minimizing your exposure by not friending the girls, you're just limiting your options.
If you're just going off of girls reviewed by other mongers, there's no need to add friends, you can just keep sending messages to the same 20 or 30 girls until you get a reply.
However, there are some reasons why you should add the girls. Every reason doesn't apply to everyone.
1. Some accounts are fake, just used to scam money or sell pictures. If you're seeing their daily updates it's pretty easy to figure out which girls are a waste of time.
2. Some girls travel. There's no need to wait 2 hours for a reply when the girl just posted from Panama City.
3. Some girls are impacted by major events, death in the family, sick pet, or showing symptoms of Covid. The day of the funeral probably isn't the best time to ask if she wants to fuck.
4. Some girls have hot friends, hot friends who have never been with a gringo.
5. New girls are turning 18 all the time. It's helpful to know when they celebrated, especially if the girl has been telling you for 7 months that she's 18, but just had a birthday party yesterday.
6. Knowledge is a good thing. If you pay attention you can learn a lot about the girls from what they put on Facebook.
7. When other plans fall through, pop open messenger and you can see who is active. Right now I have 144 friends active. I don't need to hope I can find someone. I know who will receive my message instantly.
8. 1,000 girls are hard to keep track of. My favorite from last trip might have put on 40# since I last saw her. Another one might be pregnant, or with a jealous boyfriend. Every day it takes me about 5 minutes to see who is looking good.
Mojo Bandit
09-14-21, 21:28
You do not have to friend chicas on Facebook. You can just private message with them--most of them prefer WhatsApp anyway, so switch to there as soon as you can.
You gain nothing by friending these girls. The point is to find them and message with them, not to see what they post on their timelines or for them to be able to snoop your profile.
I feel like I must be missing something about your style of FB mongering. Please explain it to me. I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me. I think that would lead to a 50 50 chance of getting flaked on. I guess that if that is your style that you have your reasons than that is fine for you but I do not think it would achieve the kind of results that I look for.
Maybe we have different organizational styles because for me organizing is a big part of finding them and I cannot see how one can do this without "friending" the chicas. I also have noticed that chicas are about half as likely to reply to me when I am not in their friends list. It can be done, I have done it but I have found my chances are better if I am in their friends list. Also I like to avoid the flakey ones that will be no-shows and I need to build a rapport to do this. I am also curious of how you "find" them in the first place before you message them? Without already having chicas in your friends list to go off of, how does one go about finding them? There are some extremely gorgeous (IMHO) chicas on FB but they were not that easy to find.
This leaves me wonder if I have a different attitude too because to me it is about finding what I think are the hottest of the hottest chicas. I realize tastes can vary but there is a variety of prepagos on FB no matter your tastes. For me the numkber of gorgeos chicas is about 1 out of 50 of the prepagos that I have found on FB and maybe less than that. I have over 2500 "friends" of which maybe 50 are gorgeous. Over the last couple of years, a little bit of time here and there and it has probably taken me a cumulative hours to do this. Now it feeds itself.
By chicas showing up in my "people you may know" and "friend requests" feeds. These are the honeys that are like finding the special eater egg with the prize in it.
Gorgeous women are out there but one has to look for them. It takes time and effort to cultivate a crop of truely gorgeous women, no matter your preferences. I find that a person needs an organized method to do this and for me that has meant have chicas in my friend list who will cause other putas to send me friend requests and to cause other chicas to show up in my "people you may know feed".
It has been also covered here a several times that one should have a FB profile used just for mongering, I have been made aware that this has becaome increasingly difficult and FB has been cracking down more on duplicate profiles (you could not tell that from Lleraldine Gomez who has a least 8 profiles that I have seen).
If a person is unable to start a profile just for nmongering there is a function that can be done to "restrict" even your friends from seeing anything that you do not post as "public" - once you are friends with them you go to there profile andclick on the button that says "friends" then a menu pops up that has "unfollow" "unfriend" and also it says "edit freind list" and when you click on that another menu pops up and one of the choices is "restricted" , click on that and they cannot see anything on your profile that you have not made public (which is what anyone who you are not "friends" with can see).
Another aspect of this "edit friends list" can be found if you go to your FB home page and on the left side is a menu of options, you will see "friends" - click on this and another menu comes up where you find an item called "custom lists" scroll to the bottom and click on "create list" and you can organize lists of friends in any types of lists you want. I have lists for chicas in various places like Cali, Barranquilla, Cuba, etc. And for example I have a list called "Top Chicas" - now when I go to make a post there is a shaded box that shows who my "audience", more times than not by default is says "friends" or maybe even "public" but I can click on that and a box pops up to let me choose my audience, and if I scroll it shows my custom lists, so if I want to anounce that I am going to Medellin but I only want my Top Chicas to know this, that is the audience that I would choose.
Mr Enternational
09-14-21, 22:02
I feel like I must be missing something about your style of FB mongering. Please explain it to me. I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me.I said before about these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. You do not have to add them. You simply send them a message saying I will be in Medellin soon. Give me your whatsapp and I will contact you when I am there. Then you save the number in your phone so that when you go to whatsapp and search fb mde or however you saved them, the chicks pop up. Seems something complicated is being made of something very simple.
Just Incognito
09-14-21, 22:39
I feel like I must be missing something about your style of FB mongering. Please explain it to me. I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me. I think that would lead to a 50 50 chance of getting flaked on. I guess that if that is your style that you have your reasons than that is fine for you but I do not think it would achieve the kind of results that I look for.
Maybe we have different organizational styles because for me organizing is a big part of finding them and I cannot see how one can do this without "friending" the chicas. I also have noticed that chicas are about half as likely to reply to me when I am not in their friends list. It can be done, I have done it but I have found my chances are better if I am in their friends list. Also I like to avoid the flakey ones that will be no-shows and I need to build a rapport to do this. I am also curious of how you "find" them in the first place before you message them? Without already having chicas in your friends list to go off of, how does one go about finding them?.I feel like waiting to the last minute to message a chica is not a method that would work out for me. I think that would lead to a 50 50 chance of getting flaked on. I guess that if that is your style that you have your reasons than that is fine for you but I do not think it would achieve the kind of results that I look for.
Show me where I said anything about waiting until the last minute. You can't, because I didn't. You do realize that you and a girl can send an unlimited amount of messages and private, through messenger for as ong as you want without ever actually 'friending' each other, don't you?
I also have noticed that chicas are about half as likely to reply to me when I am not in their friends list.
I have not noticed this at all. The only reason a chica won't reply is if she thinks you aren't going to pay what she wants.
I am also curious of how you "find" them in the first place before you message them?
There are a few I have as friends-not many, just ones I have seen already and would see again-that's a very small list-- you can see friends lists from people you aren't friends with. Perhaps you can see more if chicas setting limit who can see their friends to only friends. But, it is rare that a facebook girl does that IMO.
This leaves me wonder if I have a different attitude too because to me it is about finding what I think are the hottest of the hottest chicas.
I think this furthers my style, not yours. Why bother being friends with 200 you just said you don't think are very hot? Why friend average chicas? All I want is the hottest-no need for hundreds of friends when hundreds aren't the hottest!
As far as restricted lists, custom lists, editing friends lists, and 2nd profiles. Seems like a lot of work when all you have to do is just message with them without friending them to accomplish these goals.
Are the ONLY women you find found through 'friends' ?? I doubt it,. Usually its through friends lists of girls you aren't friends with. Ike friends of friends. Maybe you get more girls on your list--but I can't see how / why friending hundreds of chicas in Medellin is anything but wasting time and trying to validate the ego by saying look at all these girls I found! As if that is some college degree needing skill LOL.
Go on facebook. Find 'Medellin Rich' or any of the well known chicas out there--mine their friends lists-click on the ones you like, if they posted recently--check their friends lists--and if you want send them and those friends messages. This isn't very complicated and is often made out to be much more than it really is.
I have been in and out of MDE for almost a decade now. Barely 'friending' any of them. Yet finding more than enough top quality talent to enjoy my time. And rarely do I need or want to message and begin the chat more than a couple of weeks before my next arrival--that's just wasting time.
The one's I am interested in-I send a photo with the view from where I am staying and a note that lets them know I am in MDE and ready. That's all they care about $$.
Just Incognito
09-14-21, 22:40
I said before about these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. You do not have to add them. You simply send them a message saying I will be in Medellin soon. Give me your whatsapp and I will contact you when I am there. Then you save the number in your phone so that when you go to whatsapp and search fb mde or however you saved them, the chicks pop up. Seems something complicated is being made of something very simple.Keep it simple.
Just a quick message. Short and to the point. Get the whatsapp and off of the FB ASAP for more efficient results.
Mojo Bandit
09-14-21, 23:11
these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. You are just proving my point. You say "I guess they are friends of my friends". At some point you added someone as a friend that led the chica to try to add you. My goal is probably different than the averag monger. I am tring to find the largest number of gorgeous chicas that I can. So I need the largest net that I can have. That means the more chicas I add the more request I will get. The more that will show up in my "people you may know". Many of my contacts to not even have any gringos in their friends lists, those are my favorites.
Nil Admirari
09-14-21, 23:13
All the back and forth here in respect to the correlation of performance with price and other variables, somewhat comically overlooks perhaps the most obvious variable. Obvious at least to anyone who has been in long term relationships: Namely: Is the chica On or Off-the pill? If OFF, where is she in her monthly menstrual / estrous cycle?
According to the grounding 2007 research of two University of New Mexico professors (and winner of a tongue-in-cheek Ignoble Science Award), who collected data from a large sample of lapdancers in strip clubs: "While ovulating, and therefore the most fertile strippers made an average of $30 per hour more than menstruating women and $15 per hour more than women elsewhere in their cycles. Women on the pill, who typically don't ovulate, made significantly less than naturally cycling women overall and had no "estrus earning peak. SEE: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/magazine/09lapdance.html?smid=em-share.
Of course, all of the above just helps explain the variation in performance by any one, specific chica--from howling orgasm one day with one client to indifferent performance (or simulated O's) on another day with another monger. The larger debate about performance --I. E. Do you get what you pay for? No doubt will echo on in these pages unresolved /.
Nil Admirari
09-14-21, 23:48
As an addendum to my prior post on Estrous Cycles and Performance: Maybe the lap-dancers in estrous are just more proactive and flirtatious in marketing their wares. Or perhaps they are secreting pheromones that waft through the air, prompting the unsuspecting ogler to open his wallet. Or both of the above.
As I have fantasized, one could apply the New Mexico research findings to the management of one's stable of chica regulars. For example, only recruit working girls who are off the Pill, and then organize your chica rotation so that each week you only see those who are in estrous (I. E. In full heat). This of, course, would add a serious Russian Roulette aspect to mongering in Bareback mode.
SoberHans69
09-14-21, 23:52
Just got back from El Centro. Can't understand why anyone would be scared of visiting there during the day.
There was girls ranging from 1 (closer to 0, she looked about 70) to 7/8. A few looked young though so you have to be careful.
Ended up with a paisa spinner called Gabriella, she had a really pretty face, athletic body with a nice ass. The only things wrong were she had a lot of tattoos (which I don't mind but some might) and she had them stupid slug eyebrows that are fashionable now.
Had a good session for around 30 minutes for 50 k plus 7 k for the room.
The best looking girls there were just as nice as the girls in Parque Lleras the other night.
Really enjoyed El Centro and will return tomorrow. Only explored the area around Veracruz. Need to try and find Raudal Street tomorrow and try and find some casas.
If anyone else is around would be happy to exchange a tour for me buying you a session with a girl there.
Took a taxi there and back as my legs are aching off all these hills in El Poblado and legs chaffing together. Getting a taxi on Uber or Cabify isn't easy here. Will take the metro next time.
Used Uber twice this morning with no problem now it won't work with either of my cards. Says there's a problem with this payment method, anyone had this happen to them before?
Also random question, why the hell do the shops here only sell milk in bags? So strange.
Questions to the seasoned, to the expats, the long-terms in Medellin:
* What is late October like in Medellin from October 18 to November 7 range?
** Temperature and seasonal atmosphere?
I've heard the "City of Eternal Spring" mentioned more than once so temperature wise it should be fine, but is it rainy everyday?
** Are there Colombian holidays to consider that really shuts down the city, its women?
Are there national or religious holidays that cripple the city.
** How does Colombia treat Halloween?
I've been in Europe for several Halloweens. If there are expat bar, they push it and the Euros arrive and love a good costume party. Great atmosphere in the cities and it seems to have grown. Any idea how Halloween is regarded in Medellin?The last time I counted, Colombia has 26 official holidays, most are celebrated on Monday. On average there's a 3 day weekend every other week.
Most holidays just mean an extra day for the weekend. They don't have much of an effect on the mongering situation. The exceptions are Easter and Christmas. Both shutdown things for a week. There are still options available, but not as many.
Halloween is widely celebrated in Medellin. Slutty costumes will be in abundance. There will be plenty of Halloween parties, clubs will be packed and you should have a good time.
Temperature ranges from about 60°F at night to 85°F daytime.
I said before about these chicks trying to add me because I guess they are friends of my friends. You do not have to add them. You simply send them a message saying I will be in Medellin soon. Give me your whatsapp and I will contact you when I am there. Then you save the number in your phone so that when you go to whatsapp and search fb mde or however you saved them, the chicks pop up. Seems something complicated is being made of something very simple.The flaw in your method is the risk that a girl has the almost completely unheard of happen, she loses her phone and ends up with a new number. I know, I know. It's crazy to think that any prepago in Medellin could ever lose her phone or have it stolen, but it does happen. It seems like it happens to almost every single prepago.
My Facebook feed has a few messages every week from women who lost their phone and want everyone to send their Whatsapp number so they can rebuild their contact list.
My friend list isn't just for me. Many girls get added who I have no interest in. On occasion I'm with someone who is looking for something different. Rather than travel to different casas or strip clubs looking for a plus size girl, I just spend a few minutes, let them find a fatty and everyone is happy.
Another advantage is it helps my selective memory. If I've been with a girl and consider her worth a repeat, she's probably in my WhatsApp. When her name comes up, I know who I'm dealing with. If she's just a girl who I added, but never followed through with, I have to read whatever messages were exchanged to get an idea whether she was someone I was excited about. If we're friends on Facebook I'm getting daily reminders of who is getting better and who is going downhill. I'm seeing which ones are heavy party animals and which ones are more laid back. I'm seeing which ones are working and which ones are whining.
As I said before, it also takes the work out of seeing who is interested and who isn't. Last trip I posted a photo of Medellin from the air and had over 20 girls message me in less than 48 hours. Sending Whatsapp messages to 20 girls, who I already had to message to get their Whatsapp seems like more work than glancing at 20 messages, with their Facebook profiles 1 click away.
As an addendum to my prior post on Estrous Cycles and Performance: Maybe the lap-dancers in estrous are just more proactive and flirtatious in marketing their wares. Or perhaps they are secreting pheromones that waft through the air, prompting the unsuspecting ogler to open his wallet. Or both of the above.
As I have fantasized, one could apply the New Mexico research findings to the management of one's stable of chica regulars. For example, only recruit working girls who are off the Pill, and then organize your chica rotation so that each week you only see those who are in estrous (I. E. In full heat). This of, course, would add a serious Russian Roulette aspect to mongering in Bareback mode.Funny how so many want to turn mongering into a science but it will always be everything but.
FlagRunner77
09-15-21, 01:45
Update on my recent post re facebook and second accounts. It seems that FB are getting good at spotting multiple accounts being set up. I tried and the new account was blocked. But in settings. Privacy you can stop anyone seeing your friends list. That affords a decent level of privacy so current friends don't see a rash of new Colombian friends with sexy profile photos!
Another stupid question. That ratio of ladies have a good grasp of English? I'm learning Spanish as fast as I can, and I don't want to insult anyone by speaking English and assuming they can understand, but a middle ground would be great. Do people communicate with FB girls in English at all? Or do you stick to Spanish?
Nil Admirari
09-15-21, 02:14
Funny how so many want to turn mongering into a science but it will always be everything but.Be careful of taking posts too literally. I was just sharing (and riffing a bit) on some entertaining research--a study which, in the late Senator Proxmire's day, would have qualified for one of his Golden Fleece awards. Like most one and all posting here, my operative mode of mongering comes closer to "winging it" day-to-day than anything that would ever pretend to be scientific.
Also random question, why the hell do the shops here only sell milk in bags? So strange.It reduces plastic waste. They also sell ketchup and many other condiments in bags.
I get friend requests all the time on FB which has sometimes lead to pleasant encounters but you have to keep up your guard. Just now I got one from a new account with a hot profile photo. "She" was super flirty in her messages right off the bat, even sending a photo of her pussy unprompted. With those kind of red flags I immediately did a reverse image search and sure enough, she was using a photo stolen from a Ukrainian instagram model. I asked if she would send a real photo of herself and when she played dumb and insisted it was her I just sent her a different photo of the same model, challenging her to explain how I was able to do that. Suddenly she was very quiet and within moments her profile was unreachable.
I don't know what was the point of her little stunt--hoping I'd send money or buy "her" nudes?
GeneHickman
09-15-21, 05:45
It appears I'm still a peasant here and need to get paid membership first. I'll slide in your DMs once I figure that out hahaa appreciate the follow up.
I read that thread you mentioned and haven't cringed as hard as that in the longest time; I'm pretty dumb but that's some next level shit. In terms of planning I'd say, after reading through this forum semi-religiously the past few weeks -- I'm pretty comfortable with my first 10 days for the time being. I think a lot of it is going to be a bit improvised with first time shenanigans but would you have any advice on a multiple day GF type relationship as a first timer in MDE -- or is it better to just be a kid at the candy store and figure out what I want. I'm personally hesitant about the multiday GF thing but I'm mainly using it as a way to get a guide, learn a bit about the city and have someone to go out with at night.In the multiple day girl friended thing. Just take it day by day, some of them you have good chemistry with can come hang out, go with you and fuck if you work something out with them. Committing to anything longer than an afternoon or evening first up is not sensible, you can always extend, repeat, or shack up after observing a while.
Just Incognito
09-15-21, 05:54
You are just proving my point. You say "I guess they are friends of my friends". At some point you added someone as a friend that led the chica to try to add you. My goal is probably different than the averag monger. I am tring to find the largest number of gorgeous chicas that I can. So I need the largest net that I can have. That means the more chicas I add the more request I will get. The more that will show up in my "people you may know". Many of my contacts to not even have any gringos in their friends lists, those are my favorites.This makes sense to me.
SoberHans69
09-15-21, 06:46
Just finished a session with a mixed race girl from Parque Lleras called Kelly. Paid her 200 and she was a great fuck, gave me a couple of hits of her see too.
She had a really pretty face, nice ass but the only thing that let her down a bit was slightly saggy tits. I'd still give her a 8 despite that.
There was a few girls tonight I'd rate an 8 but most were 7 and under. Most of the girls were no better than the lookers in El Centro. As reported on here, some of them might work both.
Be careful of taking posts too literally. I was just sharing (and riffing a bit) on some entertaining research--a study which, in the late Senator Proxmire's day, would have qualified for one of his Golden Fleece awards. Like most one and all posting here, my operative mode of mongering comes closer to "winging it" day-to-day than anything that would ever pretend to be scientific.I was just pulling your leg.
Something my dad always said, "ask for what you want. " Do that with the chicas, and more importantly, get to know some good people in some good venues and you'll likely get what you want in Medellin. That's the ulta unscientific, Cliff Notes version.
Mr Enternational
09-15-21, 07:57
Took a taxi there and back as my legs are aching off all these hills in El Poblado and legs chaffing together. Getting a taxi on Uber or Cabify isn't easy here. Will take the metro next time.You need to download InDriver. That is the in app for rideshare now.
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