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Iponux
10-26-21, 17:39
One of the most basic guidelines in this hobby is don't make a deal for long-time if you haven't sampled the chica short-time first. There are multiple reasons, which have been explained on this forum..And I do appreciate every little gem (advice) I find on this forum, certainly made my trip much more enjoyable.

However I am constrained on time not money, so I will prolly keep ending in this situation.

Zeos1
10-26-21, 18:09
Sure, they can. They can't keep me from leaving the country, that's kidnapping. Also an international issue since I would be straight on my way to the embassy. Believe it or not, the embassy actually sticks up for your interests.You're joking right? They can charge you with something, put you in jail. You will eventually get a chance to call the embassy, maybe. But you will not be free to make your way to the embassy.

Any country can do that because their laws apply.

VasyaPetya
10-26-21, 18:20
Yes, they can keep you from leaving the country. It's not called kidnapping, it's called detention and it's perfectly legal. It happens all the time all over the world. Just recently a UK citizen was detained in the UAE because they found some bottles of CBD vape fluid in the trunk of his car. He could end up spending the next 25 years in prison.

If you get pulled aside for a search at the airport, it's in your best interest to comply and to have anything illegal. It's also in your best interest to not start threatening them with the embassy. You smile, make some small talk and show them you aren't involved in anything illegal. Because the "you can't touch me or I'll tell my embassy" attitude will not only ruin your day, it puts a target on every gringo.Except I'm not carrying any "cbd" or other substance that may be illegal. And no, they can't detain me forever. They can't confiscate my possessions and let me go either. Its in THEIR best interest not to do that because if the word gets out this is happening less people will come to a country that wants to go through your laptop and cellphone for no reason (I also doubt this is happening at all).

Zeos1
10-26-21, 18:31
Except I'm not carrying any "cbd" or other substance that may be illegal. And no, they can't detain me forever. They can't confiscate my possessions and let me go either. Its in THEIR best interest not to do that because if the word gets out this is happening less people will come to a country that wants to go through your laptop and cellphone for no reason (I also doubt this is happening at all).I could give you an example. But I won't. But believe me, if they charge you with anything to do with sex the US embassy will not be quick to come to your aid. They can certainly detain you to complete whatever sentence they apply if you are found guilty. And they can hold you pre-trial for a long time. One who will remain nameless here spent over 2 years in penitentiary before his case was heard. And there was nothing that the US government would or could do. And the word is already out. There are many Americans in jail in foreign countries for various crimes, or charged with various crimes.

One of the hazards of travel is that when you are in a foreign country their laws apply, not laws from the US or wherever you are from.

VasyaPetya
10-26-21, 18:32
Wish you can take this post back, everything in it sounds like the exact person they look for! Good luck with your kidnapping claim and let us all know how quickly the embassy helped you out (they should be their within 20-30 minutes) oh and believe me they can and will stop you from leaving the country and make you miss your flight, the minute you open your mouth with your kidnapping and embassy claims, I'm guessing you never been their?I know they can make me miss my flight, but they can't hold me indefinitely over absolutely nothing.

VasyaPetya
10-26-21, 18:34
I could give you an example. But I won't. But believe me, if they charge you with anything to do with sex the US embassy will not be quick to come to your aid. They can certainly detain you to complete whatever sentence they apply if you are found guilty. And they can hold you pre-trial for a long time. One who will remain nameless here spent over 2 years in penitentiary before his case was heard. And there was nothing that the US government would or could do. And the word is already out. There are many Americans in jail in foreign countries for various crimes, or charged with various crimes.

One of the hazards of travel is that when you are in a foreign country their laws apply, not laws from the US or wherever you are from.What are they going to charge someone with that refuses to unlock their cellphone?

Mr Enternational
10-26-21, 19:12
What are they going to charge someone with that refuses to unlock their cellphone?I agree. Many guys in this board will travel to the ends of the earth for some cheap pussy, but when they are faced with the slightest adversity they fold as quick as they can and are willing to pay any price to make it go away. If you have not done anything then the police or immigration are not going to do shit to you. I have been to Colombia way over 100 times and nobody has ever asked me about seeing any electronics. I have even been pulled in the back room in Medellin for a random body scan and questioning.

If you have not done anything then don't be a punk. I have been pulled over by police in Dominican Republic over 20 times trying to shake me down. I have given them ZERO. And one guy even pulled his gun out threatening to shoot out my tire. I don't scare easily when I know I have done nothing wrong. And if push ever came to shove then when I get around their superiors I will say how they wanted money, but since I refused they said they would make me have problems. You can lie the same way they can.

Paulie97
10-26-21, 21:08
What are they going to charge someone with that refuses to unlock their cellphone?They don't have to "charge" you with anything. They can just hold you for a year pending investigation, no bail, and can get extensions on that if they want. In the meantime you are in a rat hole with no beds or changes of clothes or means to wash them, and no food unless you have money to buy it. You aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy.

JjBee62
10-26-21, 21:48
Tried a few casas from the map at noon period.

-Amonia: all 5 or less, about 9 girls, nothing caught my eye.

-Paris club: closed.

-Travesias: even poorer selection, passed.

-Club de amiga sexy: one 7 girl had a nice smile, called Paula, had a good personality and willing to please.

I walked around afterwards, coffee etc, checked the bars north of boteri plaza at 3 pm, nothing to talk about as I only took a glance and there was no action, maybe I'll check later next time.

Rest some then shopped some stuff for a tinder date, she apologized because of some life shit, I called one of the street walkers I got her number while shopping."Sent her out yelling with 200 k" is not a good situation to put yourself into. It might have been created by your lack of Spanish, or by not grasping the typical street girls mindset. Surfer500 or Knowledge can give a better opinion than I.

Typically those girls get paid a small amount, 50 k and less, for a quick session, then they're back on the street looking for the next customer. As long as you wanted her to stay probably never registered to her, because that's not how she does business. The only thing that did register was your willingness to pay 300 k.

You might consider offering a more typical price and if she turns out to be a keeper once in the room, offering more for a longer period. I'd also suggest, not leaving it open ended, because she might not be able to stay as long as you want. Either agree on the number of loads (polvos works), a specific length of time, or until a certain time.

JjBee62
10-26-21, 21:57
First off I love the map that was put together and updated, I got the one from the Rio thread and it was essential for the trips I took last year.

I'm heading to medellin for Christmas / new years, and have been ramping up my research as it will be my first trip, my issue lies withing weeding through all the info on the map.

So my question is, is there a way to navigate just the casas, nightclubs, strip clubs? Essentially the places that have girls to either pay for or freelancers to pick up. It seems like there's tons of places like love motels, swingers clubs, hotels, SW areas, and the icons crossover from different places.

If there's a way to turn on certain icons on the map I'm not finding it, I could alter the map if I know the places and condense it for anyone looking for a simpler map, but these places are not clear to me.

Any advice here is greatly appreciated.Where you found the map you should also find the PDF list. There everything is more organized. What I've done is take the addresses from the list, and add them to my own list of saved places. To make things easier I also used Google StreetView to capture a picture of the front door to save with the location. That way I can easily identify the blue door at New Life, the red door at Aiffe and the brown door at Club Amigas Sexxy.

This way I have a personalized map with only the few places I'm interested in.

Iponux
10-26-21, 22:28
I tried 2 more casas, they were not on the map.

1- unknown name casa, had like 4-5 chicas, very nice body shots on WhatsApp but everything went south when I looked at their faces, including my erection.

Prices:

Location: 100/ HR 70/ HR.

Cra. 68 A #43-13, Medellin, Antioquia.

White door across the street.

2- Angels casa, I didn't find it on the map or pdf file.

They have a very good selection, I chose a bomb shell Venezuelan called Gabriella, this place will definitely be seeing me more.

Prices: 130/ HR 80/30 min + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom.

Location: address they gave me was very wonky on map, got late because of it and the original girl I reserved got some other John.

It is the grey door right next to drogueria dar salud la 81.

2nd floor.

Late last night: around 12 pm.

Got another street walkers, sweet baby face and blond hair with extensions, 150 k after negotiations and 2 pimps trying to syphon more money of me.

Funny thing is that she spend another 40 minutes with me trying to take off her painful hair extensions.

Surfer500
10-26-21, 22:44
I agree. Many guys in this board will travel to the ends of the earth for some cheap pussy, but when they are faced with the slightest adversity they fold as quick as they can and are willing to pay any price to make it go away. If you have not done anything then the police or immigration are not going to do shit to you. I have been to Colombia way over 100 times and nobody has ever asked me about seeing any electronics. I have even been pulled in the back room in Medellin for a random body scan and questioning.I've been reading these posts and have never had an issue either entering or leaving Colombia and am surprised that people are getting pulled aside and searched.

What I do know is that in Medellin immediately after entering the International gate at the Rio Negro airport, and just prior to security, there has always been a Colombian policeman who looks over your Passport, asks where your going, or asks nothing at all, and then motions you to one of the scanners and belts. I have typically witnessed people not carrying USA Passports, seems like primarily Colombians flying internationally sent to the belt / line and the police go thru their carry on belongings after they have been x rayed.

I typically when they see my USA Passport am waived thru with no questions asked, and have never seen the police going thru electronics firing up computers or going thru phones of anybody. I suppose if something pops up at immigration which is immediately after security that people may get detained, but have never seen or heard of any searches / detentions at the "tunnels" but sounds like something new and might be more of a terrorism thing which is fine as far as I'm concerned.

JjBee62
10-26-21, 22:51
Except I'm not carrying any "cbd" or other substance that may be illegal. And no, they can't detain me forever. They can't confiscate my possessions and let me go either. Its in THEIR best interest not to do that because if the word gets out this is happening less people will come to a country that wants to go through your laptop and cellphone for no reason (I also doubt this is happening at all).You seem to know all the answers. I'm sure you'll experience no problems whatsoever.

I'm just curious about one thing. Just for the sake of discussion, let's say you're pulled aside for inspection. It happens to me occasionally when I'm crossing in or out of Canada, something I do about 200 times every year. Let's say they want you to unlock your phone, or power up your laptop. In the US, they can confiscate your things if you refuse to comply, they can detain you and they can take your passport, while they wait for the court to authorize using whatever methods necessary to complete the search. I'm pretty sure other countries also have those rights. In fact, the US supports countries like Colombia exercising those rights to help fight the drug trade, kiddie porn, trafficking and all types of smuggling. How do you convince the embassy that you have nothing to hide, when you refused to submit to a lawful search? My guess is, when you finally get to talk to someone from the embassy, the first thing they're going to ask is "why didn't you comply with the search?

Let me share one of my own experiences with you. Over 30 years ago my wife and I were coming back into the US at San Ysidro, after spending a weekend at Rosarito Beach. We weren't bringing anything back, certainly nothing illegal. Then we got pulled aside. They checked our IDs, emptied everything out of the car, opened our suitcases and went through them. Of course they didn't find anything. After letting us load everything back into the car, they directed us to another inspection area, where we sat. Eventually someone came around with a K9 unit, which sniffed all around the car. The dog didn't find anything either.

So we waited, and waited, about 45 minutes we sat there sweating, until finally a Border Patrol agent (before they were C&BP) happened to glance at my wife. The woman comes over and asks our nationality, then start questioning my wife, in a friendly way. Where was she born, what school did she go to, just a couple of basic questions, which she answered.

The agent at the booth had glanced in and decided my wife was Mexican and flagged us for that, but nobody else thought she looked Mexican, so they ran all the other searches on us, until someone finally figured out the problem and cleared us.

We were polite and friendly and compliant so, except for the delay, we didn't have any issues. However, things could have ended up differently if I had been an arrogant, loudmouthed asshole about it. You see, there's a third inspection area at the border. I had to go there a few times to tow cars that had been sent there. That's where they get serious about the search.

At the third area, they remove the seats and the dash, they rip everything open. They pump out the gas and remove and cut open the gas tank, they cut off and cut open the catalytic converter and muffler. They rip off door panels and basically completely destroy the car. And it's all legal. They just need probable cause, and refusal to submit to inspection qualifies as probable cause. When they finish, if they didn't find anything, you're free to go and they'll give you the number of a towing company. They have no obligation to repair your car, or reimburse you.

For most people I always recommend, when dealing with any type of law enforcement, be polite, be calm and comply with their requests. Most of them are decent people just doing their job. If you treat them right, usually you have nothing to worry about.

However, I can tell you're much too important of a person to have to put up with that. You should definitely immediately start yelling about your rights and telling them how much trouble they'll be in for daring to try and search you. You probably should also point out how much money you make compared to them. I'm certain that will yield the best results.

I just hope someone captures the moment and puts it on YouTube.

JjBee62
10-26-21, 23:12
What are they going to charge someone with that refuses to unlock their cellphone?It's Colombia. Colombia. It's not the US, it's not Canada. The laws of the US don't apply. They are not required, under Colombian law, to charge you with anything. In the Colombian legal system they put you in prison until they are ready to officially charge you with a crime, then they return you to prison until they are ready to prosecute you.

How do you not know, in most places, refusal to comply with a search is considered an admission of guilt? How do you not understand that evidence can appear out of nowhere? How do you convince a Colombian court that a flash drive loaded with kiddie porn doesn't belong to you, when 3 police officers have testified it was found in your luggage? For fucks sake, there are probably 100 k people in US prisons, convicted because the police found some illegal drugs that didn't belong to them.

However, from the way you seem so worried about them looking at your phone, it sounds as if whether they find your stuff, or plant their own stuff, the guilt is pretty obvious.

LoveItHere69
10-26-21, 23:40
I know they can make me miss my flight, but they can't hold me indefinitely over absolutely nothing.Sorry I do not know how it works in Colombia. But using the Philippines as an example I know of. You can sit in jail for 1, 2, 3 years before they press charges or let you go. The norm is several months. You guys are not in your home country. You need to wake the F* up. I love the saying guys see on TV, "I have rights". No you do not. Not even the USA anymore.

RacShack
10-26-21, 23:48
They don't have to "charge" you with anything. They can just hold you for a year pending investigation, no bail, and can get extensions on that if they want. In the meantime you are in a rat hole with no beds or changes of clothes or means to wash them, and no food unless you have money to buy it. You aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy.I guess like they all do, they think there home and think on lines of innocent into proven guilty: and it’s guilty until proven innocent (even with no charges) over their! Seen this way of thinking lots and usually the outcome is not good! Just sayin, oh wait I forgot the embassy will be their real real quick to help out!

JjBee62
10-27-21, 00:06
I agree. Many guys in this board will travel to the ends of the earth for some cheap pussy, but when they are faced with the slightest adversity they fold as quick as they can and are willing to pay any price to make it go away. If you have not done anything then the police or immigration are not going to do shit to you. I have been to Colombia way over 100 times and nobody has ever asked me about seeing any electronics. I have even been pulled in the back room in Medellin for a random body scan and questioning.

If you have not done anything then don't be a punk. I have been pulled over by police in Dominican Republic over 20 times trying to shake me down. I have given them ZERO. And one guy even pulled his gun out threatening to shoot out my tire. I don't scare easily when I know I have done nothing wrong. And if push ever came to shove then when I get around their superiors I will say how they wanted money, but since I refused they said they would make me have problems. You can lie the same way they can.I used to have a brother-in-law. I never met him. He married my sister when they were stationed together in the Army. He was Puerto Rican and very dark skinned (which didn't sit well with some of the family).

The reason I never met him is because he did nothing wrong. In Louisiana, other than driving back to Fort Polk with a 19 year old pregnant white girl. That's not against the law, but it's one of those "probable cause" things. My brother-in-law knew he had done nothing wrong, in fact, he insisted the cop had no right to stop them.

There was one time when I got in the face of a cop. I'm reasonably large and I was furious and it turned out okay. He had done something rather stupid and dangerous and I wasn't going to take it. It happened in Michigan, I'm white, he was white and he deescalated the situation. If I were black, coming at a white cop, like a runaway freight train (as I said, I was furious), there are probably some places where I wouldn't have walked back to my truck and drove away.

Back to my brother-in-law. He got mouthy, he got belligerent and he got shot 5 times in the chest. My sister got a traumatic experience and, after the birth of her daughter, a general discharge under honorable conditions because she was a single mother.

Often you give excellent advice. This is not one of those times.

While it's unlikely a Colombian cop will shoot you, escalating a situation is seldom a good idea, especially when they're well within their rights.

I know you're aware that they have a right to search you before allowing you on a flight. And if they are pulling people in the airport, it's not likely they're just looking for a bribe. From the sound of things they're probably looking for drugs. Which means they probably are only interested in seeing if your phone, laptop and tablet can power up. I had that happen in Houston when returning from Bogota. Powered up my laptop, powered up my phone, strummed a few chords on both my guitar and tiple and then chatted for a few minutes with the agent who had never seen a tiple before.

Now, assuming you're not smuggling drugs inside a phone with the guts removed, tell me, in your expert opinion, which is going to get you on your flight with the least amount of delay:

1. Showing the guy, who doesn't get paid enough to deal with arrogant gringos, that everything is fucking hunky-dory.

2. Telling him you don't have to do what he asks and you're going to get him fired if he doesn't let you go.

Remember, this is in the airport, where there are probably witnesses or some type of electronic surveillance. It's not on the Malecon in Santo Domingo, it's not in Parque Lleras or some taxi traveling to Laureles. So, the whole trying to shake you down for money angle doesn't apply.

The one major flaw in your scenario is "done nothing wrong. " You don't know if someone else has done nothing wrong, especially not a completely anonymous guy on ISG who seems to be really nervous about anyone getting a look at what's on his phone.

If you've done nothing wrong, there's no need to get belligerent. If you've done nothing wrong there's no need to start shouting that Uncle Sam is going to kick the shit out of anyone who tries to detain you. You keep calm, do what's asked and chances are, especially in the airport scenario, you'll quickly be on your way.

Try to remember, driving a car and picking up hookers in Santo Domingo is not the same thing as getting pulled aside for extra inspection at the airport. At least I've never noticed anyone driving a car and picking up a hooker on the jetway. Maybe I need to pay more attention.

Combo
10-27-21, 00:49
I guess like they all do, they think there home and think on lines of innocent into proven guilty: and its guilty until proven innocent (even with no charges) over their! Seen this way of thinking lots and usually the outcome is not good! Just sayin, oh wait I forgot the embassy will be their real real quick to help out!Added to that, as a single male traveling to Colombia, you're pretty much presumed to be a "sex tourist. " The US Embassy, while it should help you, also would love to make an example of you.

Best policy is: First: Do not have keep pictures of Colombian women on your phone or laptop (unless they're like 50+ year old). Second, cooperate with the agents. The vast majority are just doing their job. But if you become antagonistic, there is a good chance they will become antagonistic also, which may not end well.

Huacho
10-27-21, 01:01
Well, of course the Colombian authorities cannot detain a USA citizen for no reason. Oh; wait a minute. Yes, they can and do and will. But then of course you would get promptly arraigned in front of a judge and could get bail. Oh; wait a minute. No real time frame for arraignment and no bail unless you are a high muckety muck. But of course if you are truly not guilty then the jury will find you innocent. Oh; wait a minute. There is no jury. Well, anyway, if you end up in jail at least you will get three free meals a day. Oh; wait a minute. No, you won't unless you pay inflated prices for food. But of course surely the USA government will intervene on behalf of its citizens since the USA has consistently shown its concern for its overseas *****monger citizens. Well, actually, not so much. But enjoy Colombia, Anthony.

Nounce
10-27-21, 01:06
...have never had an issue either entering or leaving Colombia and am surprised that people are getting pulled aside and searched..
It is like what many people would say "I have lived in Medellin for 5 years and never been robbed. " Does that mean there is no robbery in Medellin?

Nounce
10-27-21, 01:09
I agree. Many guys in this board will travel to the ends of the earth for some cheap pussy, but when they are faced with the slightest adversity they fold as quick as they can and are willing to pay any price to make it go away. ..Would you unlock your phone when you have done nothing wrong? And they will let you board the plan after you refuse?

Plan77
10-27-21, 01:19
Nice post. Thanks for posting report and pictures. Superb.


I tried 2 more casas, they were not on the map.

1- unknown name casa, had like 4-5 chicas, very nice body shots on WhatsApp but everything went south when I looked at their faces, including my erection.

Prices:

Location: 100/ HR 70/ HR.

Cra. 68 A #43-13, Medellin, Antioquia.

White door across the street.

2- Angels casa, I didn't find it on the map or pdf file.

They have a very good selection, I chose a bomb shell Venezuelan called Gabriella, this place will definitely be seeing me more.

Prices: 130/ HR 80/30 min + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom.

ColombiaLover
10-27-21, 01:43
I am with Mr. E on this. I have been going to Colombia for 16 years (who knows how many trips), some of which I was married to a Colombian and the rest as a monger. NEVER had anyone ask to view fotos on my phone, never gotten shaked down. I was body scanned once, but it was years ago when I was on vacation with my ex-wife and daughter, but that was in Cartagena. Not saying that shake-downs, etc. Can't or don't happen, but it's certainly not the norm based on what I've experienced and based on what I know of friend who visit Colombia regularly.


I agree. Many guys in this board will travel to the ends of the earth for some cheap pussy, but when they are faced with the slightest adversity they fold as quick as they can and are willing to pay any price to make it go away. If you have not done anything then the police or immigration are not going to do shit to you. I have been to Colombia way over 100 times and nobody has ever asked me about seeing any electronics. I have even been pulled in the back room in Medellin for a random body scan and questioning.

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Iponux
10-27-21, 02:15
"Sent her out yelling with 200 k" is not a good situation to put yourself into. It might have been created by your lack of Spanish, or by not grasping the typical street girls mindset. Surfer500 or Knowledge can give a better opinion than I.

Typically those girls get paid a small amount, 50 k and less, for a quick session, then they're back on the street looking for the next customer. As long as you wanted her to stay probably never registered to her, because that's not how she does business. The only thing that did register was your willingness to pay 300 k.

You might consider offering a more typical price and if she turns out to be a keeper once in the room, offering more for a longer period. I'd also suggest, not leaving it open ended, because she might not be able to stay as long as you want. Either agree on the number of loads (polvos works), a specific length of time, or until a certain time.Valuable advice.

I actually did ask her how long she will stay, her own words were (as long as you want), the true meaning prolly got lost in the translation.

I get the mindset of a SW, however one thing to note is that I didn't know she was a SW until I saw her afterwards hanging on the side of a nearby street.

I certainly didn't have the same problem with the SW I got right afterwards.

Mr Enternational
10-27-21, 03:18
Would you unlock your phone when you have done nothing wrong? And they will let you board the plan after you refuse?Depends. Once US Customs asked for my electronics as I was boarding a flight to Peru. I do not remember if they asked me to unlock anything or not. I do not have a lock on my tablet anyway. I think they either put a code in or looked at the settings page on my phone and tablet, then wrote down some numbers that came up. I have nothing to hide and there are plenty of chicks' nekkit pics and videos in my phone.

Let me say that this was not a random thing. They had a copy of my passport to identify me when I came through. This was in 2017 after my global entry was revoked for who knows what reason. I have written my senator, freedom of information act, pulled my FBI report and everything and still they will not say anything. My next step is to write the head of Homeland Security, and if I get nothing from him, then I will write to the President. They gave me Precheck back and I have Clear, but they recently denied Global Entry again.

In the US they can always confiscate your phone until they open it the hard way then send it back to you at a later date. They are not going to arrest you for not complying. Same thing as Jj was saying about those cars though; if it gets broken in the process then they do not owe you shit.

JjBee62
10-27-21, 05:12
I am with Mr. E on this. I have been going to Colombia for 16 years (who knows how many trips), some of which I was married to a Colombian and the rest as a monger. NEVER had anyone ask to view fotos on my phone, never gotten shaked down. I was body scanned once, but it was years ago when I was on vacation with my ex-wife and daughter, but that was in Cartagena. Not saying that shake-downs, etc. Can't or don't happen, but it's certainly not the norm based on what I've experienced and based on what I know of friend who visit Colombia regularly.So, anything that's never happened to me has never happened?

The question being discussed is whether, at the airport, you're required to submit to a search. A simple yes or no would suffice.

I cross the border in and out of Canada regularly. I'm on the way to Canada now and will be coming back into the US in about 18 hours. Over the more than 1000 times I've crossed, I've never been personally searched. My truck has been searched, it's been x-rayed, but they've never personally searched me.

I've noticed, particularly returning to the US, certain trends. If they have a lot of cars in secondary inspection, most of them might be the same color, or most of the people might belong to a particular religion or ethnic group. With trucks it might be similar types of trailers, or mostly small rental trucks.

I see similar things on the highway. The police might be pulling over grey vans, or blue pickups. This is because they have information that something illegal involving that type of vehicle might be going on.

I once got pulled, along with several other people, for an extra inspection. Listening to the questions it turned out we had all made last minute flight changes.

Certain behaviors or certain profiles can raise a red flag. When that happens people get pulled aside for extra scrutiny. It's happened to you, MeE and me along with countless others. We've already established that it can happen.

The question is, "what do you do if it happens to you?

My answer is that you be polite, calm and compliant. You treat the person with respect, you remain friendly and you will probably have no problem.

Apparently that's the wrong answer. It appears that you should start acting like a spoiled child and accuse the person of breaking the law, because no country has the right to detain anyone, particularly if they are from the US.

Of course this aligns nicely with the "if one person overpays, prices will go up" thinking. If police or customs deal with mostly gringos who are polite and friendly, they are more likely to look favorably at gringos. If they constantly have to deal with the arrogant assholes, they will treat all gringos accordingly.

TjBrazil
10-27-21, 05:49
Ever since Trump passed that new law which basically is going after any sex tourism, even though we are not trafficking, immigration has been a real pain. Here is some added protocol I have been following since trump passed the law. Everyone should follow this because I'm getting harassed a lot more crossing over from Tijuana.

1) You need 2 phones. One you use in the states like a 1 k iPhone with all your apps that you can think of, and a cheaper 300 dollar phone for mongering. On the monger phone you will only need to download what's app, tinder, and uber.

2) when you cross back to the states, especially Colombia which harassed the hell out of me as a solo traveler, you want that phone to be completely deleted and reset to factory settings. For android: Settings / general management / reset / factory data reset / reset. That's it. After it's done you can cross over and they won't see shit. Any google searches, photos, and what's app conversations are gone.

Take a screen shot of your what's app numbers and email it to yourself to a rarely used email. When you get home you can add the numbers back and dump the girls you are getting tired of anyway.

You can resist this at your own discretion and complain about your rights but they have already said they can check your phone without your permission when you haven't crossed back yet. They are cracking down and it will get worse. Remember lying to a federal agent is a crime. If they ask you a bunch of questions about what you are doing in Colombia and you lie and then they see your what's app talking to escorts about sex for money, it might not end well. Be paranoid. This isn't 10 years ago where all they really cared about was terrorism. Now they care about who you are screwing.

Osteoknot
10-27-21, 09:06
Laying in bed here in my oceanside room at the Pavilion Hotel in Myrtle Beach with my ex-wife. Once again I cannot sleep because of her snoring. My recent topic was three-ways and at first I thought Scarlet and Purrfekt Paisa held the honor as the duo that best completed my terrific trios. Then I remembered some hawt times with Scarlet and Hot Housewife and I scrounged up a few more photos of them. Scarlet has been the common denominator lately for these three-ways because she likes to supply the third chicas, her amigas, which is fun for her between the sexual activities. The plain truth is that she and her girlfriend's can't afford taxi fares to get together unless they're doing it with me at my expense. Whip me, beat me, make we write bad checks, that's another way of saying I don't mind, jajaja.

My life of leisure is fun here in the states, but you don't get that kind of culture I just described above in Medellin at any price. And the prices in Medellin are beyond reasonable.

My ex-wife returns to Pennsylvania on Monday. I will start working on my new Visa that same day. As a lot of you already know, the 180 day per year tourist visa resets at the start of the calendar year or January 1st. I have 10 days left on my tourist visa for 2021 that I'm going to use up regardless of where I am in the process of switching over to an immigration visa.

Unbelievably and happily, I continue to move forward with my goal to spend as much time in Medellin as is practically possible. I'm still with the same girlfriend or novia, Catgirl, who was the sole reason I came to Medellin two years ago even though I swore beforehand I would never set foot in The City of Eternal Spring.

I did not know Medellin was a mongering destination until after I got here. Then I adapted to my environment and optimized my situation.

I was digging beachfront Cambodia before I found Medellin. There has been a lot of chatter here lately about southeast Asia. SEA is one of the many lame abbreviations used on this Website, could just as easily stand for Seattle and it is the abbreviation for the Seattle-Tacoma airport.

I see mostly similarities and not differences between SEA and MDE, except for the obvious, travel time and expense, language barrier, boobs are bigger in MDE, albeit a lot of plastic, jajaja. I had great times with the girls in both places and I mongered in six or seven different countries in Southeast Asia, I'm too tired to remember them right now. 80% of my time was in Thailand, the standard Bangkok, Pattaya, Nana Plaza, Walking Street, throw in Phuket where I dodged a lame kidnapping attempt that I posted about here before, and Chiang Mai for good measure. Rarely mentioned, the recreational drug and porn culture is dangerously unfriendly in Thailand compared to Colombia, where it is embraced.

That last photo has to be the biggest fucking drink I ever ordered in a bar in my life, they call them fish bowls here on the coast of South Carolina and probably the reason what ex-wife is once again rattling the windows with her snoring, jaja that is all.

Surfer500
10-27-21, 12:47
It is like what many people would say "I have lived in Medellin for 5 years and never been robbed. " Does that mean there is no robbery in Medellin?I would never say anything like this, as I have been in a situation where a gun was drawn and one of my Chicas robbed in Poblado.

If anyhting, I would say you most probaly will be robbed in Medellin within five years of living there.

Regardless, the discussion has been about being searched / detained at the airport, which has been a new topic here as far as I can remember at least on the Medellin thread as it sounds like something new that has been initiated by the Colombian authorities. Maybe it's some new program profiling travellers somehow, or maybe just a random screening program being started, but regardless, I don't ever remember seeing or hearing of what's been reported as of lately occurring at Rio Negro airport.

Surfer500
10-27-21, 15:01
Let me say that this was not a random thing. They had a copy of my passport to identify me when I came through. This was in 2017 after my global entry was revoked for who knows what reason. I have written my senator, freedom of information act, pulled my FBI report and everything and still they will not say anything. My next step is to write the head of Homeland Security, and if I get nothing from him, then I will write to the President. They gave me Precheck back and I have Clear, but they recently denied Global Entry again..It's not fair not knowing why you've been denied Global Entry. At least you have TSA pre-check which can be great at times but isn't as prevalent anymore as not enough people have it, hence they don't man all the TSA security entrances at some airports like in Florida, but give you a card that allows you to not to have to take off your shoes.

Probably the worst airport for international arrivals is Fort Lauderdale. No signage when entering for Global Entry. Everybody gets stuck in the same line. I just go around the line walk in, say I have Global Entry and typically am allowed to enter but was recently asked for my Global Entry card which I don't carry with me as my "known traveller" number has always been used for airline travel. FLL is the worst airport to be flying into from Colombia and I'm sure there are other board members you can attest to this.

As far as getting your Global Entry status back, your only option is to retain an attorney and spend big bucks as anything you write will go into the round file, aka trash can. And God forbid if you were put on the Governments no fly list. There are people who have been put on that list in error and have spent a lot of time and money trying to get it undone.

Elispio
10-27-21, 15:53
You can also back everything on your mongering phone up to the cloud (confirm encryption), wipe you phone before you head back, and restore your phone to the backup when you're home. Much easier.


Take a screen shot of your what's app numbers and email it to yourself to a rarely used email. When you get home you can add the numbers back and dump the girls you are getting tired of anyway.

You can resist this at your own discretion and complain about your rights but they have already said they can check your phone without your permission when you haven't crossed back yet. They are cracking down and it will get worse. Remember lying to a federal agent is a crime. If they ask you a bunch of questions about what you are doing in Colombia and you lie and then they see your what's app talking to escorts about sex for money, it might not end well. Be paranoid. This isn't 10 years ago where all they really cared about was terrorism. Now they care about who you are screwing.

Jmioffe
10-27-21, 16:39
That last photo has to be the biggest fucking drink I ever ordered in a bar in my life, they call them fish bowls here on the coast of South Carolina and probably the reason what ex-wife is once again rattling the windows with her snoring, jaja that is all.Nice reflections. The last pic is the ex-wife?

Elvis 2008
10-27-21, 16:59
Probably the worst airport for international arrivals is Fort Lauderdale. No signage when entering for Global Entry. Everybody gets stuck in the same line. I just go around the line walk in, say I have Global Entry and typically am allowed to enter but was recently asked for my Global Entry card which I don't carry with me as my "known traveller" number has always been used for airline travel. FLL is the worst airport to be flying into from Colombia and I'm sure there are other board members you can attest to this.
There is no doubt FLL is bad, and I have global entry (best $100 I ever spent and free if you get some American Express cards) but if you use the free mobile passport app and fill out your info, you can also bypass the horrendous lines. It is not as good as Global Entry but it sure as hell beats standing in the regular line.

World Travel 69
10-27-21, 20:09
Angels Casa (10-26-2021).

4284 Avenida 80, piso 2. __ Chicas. Prices: 80 k 30 min. , 130 k Hour. + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom. Tel: _ Hours: _.

Name? Next door to BMW Autos (10-26-2021).

Carrera 68 A #43-13, Piso?. 4-5 Chicas. Prices: 70 k 30 min. , 100 k Hour. Tel: _ Hours: _.


I tried 2 more casas, they were not on the map.

1- unknown name casa, had like 4-5 chicas, very nice body shots on WhatsApp but everything went south when I looked at their faces, including my erection.

Prices:

Location: 100/ HR 70/ HR.

Cra. 68 A #43-13, Medellin, Antioquia.

White door across the street.

2- Angels casa, I didn't find it on the map or pdf file.

They have a very good selection, I chose a bomb shell Venezuelan called Gabriella, this place will definitely be seeing me more.

Prices: 130/ HR 80/30 min + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom.

Location: address they gave me was very wonky on map, got late because of it and the original girl I reserved got some other John.

It is the grey door right next to drogueria dar salud la 81.

2nd floor.

Late last night: around 12 pm.

Got another street walkers, sweet baby face and blond hair with extensions, 150 k after negotiations and 2 pimps trying to syphon more money of me.

Funny thing is that she spend another 40 minutes with me trying to take off her painful hair extensions.

Mr Enternational
10-27-21, 20:20
Ever since Trump passed that new law which basically is going after any sex tourism, even though we are not trafficking, immigration has been a real pain. Here is some added protocol I have been following since trump passed the law. Everyone should follow this because I'm getting harassed a lot more crossing over from Tijuana.
If they ask you a bunch of questions about what you are doing in Colombia and you lie and then they see your what's app talking to escorts about sex for money, it might not end well. Be paranoid. This isn't 10 years ago where all they really cared about was terrorism. Now they care about who you are screwing.What? You are definitely paranoid. I literally tell the agents that I was in Tijuana fucking hoes when I cross back over and they ask. They just say ok welcome back. I ja e not been harassed at that border in 30 years. If you are not doing anything illegal there is no reason for all this mission impossible I spy shit.

JjBee62
10-27-21, 20:28
It's not fair not knowing why you've been denied Global Entry. At least you have TSA pre-check which can be great at times but isn't as prevalent anymore as not enough people have it, hence they don't man all the TSA security entrances at some airports like in Florida, but give you a card that allows you to not to have to take off your shoes.

Probably the worst airport for international arrivals is Fort Lauderdale. No signage when entering for Global Entry. Everybody gets stuck in the same line. I just go around the line walk in, say I have Global Entry and typically am allowed to enter but was recently asked for my Global Entry card which I don't carry with me as my "known traveller" number has always been used for airline travel. FLL is the worst airport to be flying into from Colombia and I'm sure there are other board members you can attest to this.

As far as getting your Global Entry status back, your only option is to retain an attorney and spend big bucks as anything you write will go into the round file, aka trash can. And God forbid if you were put on the Governments no fly list. There are people who have been put on that list in error and have spent a lot of time and money trying to get it undone.At one time I needed a Department of Energy security clearance, since my Department of Defense clearance was no longer in force. On the application there were 2 similar questions about events in my past. The first one was "in the past 5 years" and the other was "the last 10 years. " I had an incident which requires a yes answer for each. However, the first had happened more than 5 years in the past and the second more than 10 years.

So I answered no to both questions. My application was stalled until I got called in for an interview. I explained both situations and also explained why I hadn't included them on the application. I was told I needed to include anything within the past 15 years.

Then why does it say 5 and 10 years?

When the bureaucracy train goes off track, there's no telling where or why it happened.

Surfer500
10-27-21, 20:50
Ever since Trump passed that new law which basically is going after any sex tourism, even though we are not trafficking, immigration has been a real pain. Here is some added protocol I have been following since trump passed the law. Everyone should follow this because I'm getting harassed a lot more crossing over from Tijuana.

1) You need 2 phones. One you use in the states like a 1 k iPhone with all your apps that you can think of, and a cheaper 300 dollar phone for mongering. On the monger phone you will only need to download what's app, tinder, and uber.

2) when you cross back to the states, especially Colombia which harassed the hell out of me as a solo traveler, you want that phone to be completely deleted and reset to factory settings. For android: Settings / general management / reset / factory data reset / reset. That's it. After it's done you can cross over and they won't see shit. Any google searches, photos, and what's app conversations are gone.

Take a screen shot of your what's app numbers and email it to yourself to a rarely used email. When you get home you can add the numbers back and dump the girls you are getting tired of anyway..Can you provide a link or excerpt from the law your referring to that says all sex tourism is a crime. I believe a a bill was passed in June of this year in the House outlawing sex tourism as relates to minors, meaning anyone under 18, but does not address it being illegal engaging prostitutes 18 years or older.

Makes no sense at all to enforce a law against sex tourism when it involves any one 18 or older for a US citizen in a foreign Country where prostitution is legal.

As far as wiping your phone and all your electronics clean I see it as a waste of time. I don't engage in anything illegal when overseas, and don't have any suspicious photos on my phone or computer that might raise a red flag. So if they go thru my electronics and ask me a bunch of questions, my answer will be I have a lot of girlfriends, and they are all over 18. That's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so as far as lying to a Federal agent I would never do that.

Unless this Trump law you reference specifically states that if someone travels overseas, has photos and conversations with women 18 years and older on their electronics, they've clearly broken the law, and are going to be prosecuted as a sex tourist?

I find this hard to believe, and perhaps your a bit more frightened than you should be about all this.

I'm not suggesting though that you don't do all that you do, because it makes you more comfortable as a monger, and all of us have to be comfortable how we roll.

As far as Tijuana, all of the border agents know exactly what goes on there, and if I was an agent and going thru somebody's electronics, and everything was wiped clean, that would raise a huge red flag.

MarquisdeSade1
10-27-21, 20:56
Ever since Trump passed that new law which basically is going after any sex tourism.Is it the same one that also says that females that get an abortion are required to eat every bit of it before they can go home?

JjBee62
10-27-21, 20:56
What? You are definitely paranoid. I literally tell the agents that I was in Tijuana fucking hoes when I cross back over and they ask. They just say ok welcome back. I ja e not been harassed at that border in 30 years. If you are not doing anything illegal there is no reason for all this mission impossible I spy shit.As I said, I'm a frequent customer at the Canadian border. Going in, the worst I might get is someone who is just disinterested. Sometimes a few basic questions, but never any sort of attitude.

Coming back, I'll occasionally get someone who needs to be certain I'm aware how vital he is to the protection of the US. I just let him talk, answer the questions and go on my way.

I only have had 2 that were on the verge of getting ugly. The first was because I'd had to get a rental truck and the license plate information they sent us for the paperwork didn't match the plate on the truck. The woman, who was usually pretty cool, was training someone, so she made a few threats about what would happen if I ever tried that again.

The other happened inside at the counter. I can't remember what caused the remark, but he said something like "I'm the only person you need to make happy." My answer was something like "the only person I need to make happy is me. Whether or not you're happy is up to you.

More often I get the chance to make a joke. There's a User Fee for trucks entering the US, $13.50. My boss is supposed to pay it in advance, but sometimes he forgets. One day they sent me in to pay and wrote "UF" in big red letters on my paperwork and sent me inside. The woman who I drew asked me why I was there. I told her "The guy out there said I was so ugly I have to pay an ugly fee." She said "How about a User Fee. Is that better?" "It sure is, because I don't think I can afford to be this ugly."

If I can brighten up their day a bit, at the very least it makes me smile. Best case scenario they're happy to see me next time.

Surfer500
10-27-21, 21:02
What? You are definitely paranoid. I literally tell the agents that I was in Tijuana fucking hoes when I cross back over and they ask. They just say ok welcome back. I ja e not been harassed at that border in 30 years. If you are not doing anything illegal there is no reason for all this mission impossible I spy shit.Well your quite brash. I used to be a Tijuana regular, and when asked what I was doing in Tijuana my answer would always be just hanging out. All the border agents know exactly what single males are doing in Tijuana, especially crossing back in the evening. However, I do know a guy a little more brash than you that would always tell the agents he hoped he didn't pick up the clap while in Tijuana.

TjBrazil
10-27-21, 22:03
What? You are definitely paranoid. I literally tell the agents that I was in Tijuana fucking hoes when I cross back over and they ask. They just say ok welcome back. I ja e not been harassed at that border in 30 years. If you are not doing anything illegal there is no reason for all this mission impossible I spy shit.I can't believe you told them that. You never know when you get the power hungry officer. What if you get a female officer. She looks at your WhatsApp and says this girl looks underage. You tell her she is 19. They don't believe you and take you to the back because they think you're engaging in sex trafficking. Remember the new law said Facebook and Craigslist can be held accountable and arrested if someone on their platforms are engaging in prostitution. There are more reports here of extra scrutiny. I would be vigilant. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't after you. I can tell you last time I crossed over from Tijuana the Jerk officer was hoping I would say what you said. He kept asking question after question.

TjBrazil
10-27-21, 22:21
Mr E,

You said if you didn't do anything wrong, than don't worry. If that's true, why did they take your global entry card away. Maybe they already have you pegged as a sex tourist. You travel everywhere.

Colombia and now Thailand are saying they want to Crack down on prostitution. What if they want to make a example of someone. They swipe your passport and see that you've been to every know hooker destination in the world. Look at the overreacting on the terrorism laws after 911. They trampled on everyone's rights. They could do the same with banging legal age hookers in the 3rd world.

Mr Enternational
10-27-21, 23:37
I was told I needed to include anything within the past 15 years. Then why does it say 5 and 10 years?

When the bureaucracy train goes off track, there's no telling where or why it happened.Way the fuck off track. My credit score is 825 and I have not even had a traffic ticket in the last 20 years. Reminds me of Rappi. My shit still was not working yesterday so I wrote to them. They said I was in violation of the terms and conditions. What violation? We can not tell you that sir, but you can close this account and open another. Yes but I do not want to open another account and mistakenly do the same thing I did to get this one flagged. And what happens to my 73 points in this account? Sorry.

Plan77
10-28-21, 01:39
Without getting into too many specifics, this is beginning to happen more frequently now. A single male traveler with a history of travel to Thailand, Colombia, Cambodia and Costa Rica. Boom - expect to be grilled and have all of your stuff turned upside down. Customs some times take your electronics stuff away for hours, yes plural hours, and inspect it, far away from your eyes.

Don't be stupid. Take care and of course, don't indulge in illegal activities.

Now, can anyone please point me to any info on that sex tourism law that has been mentioned recently. About buying sex. I am not aware of any such law.

Plan77
10-28-21, 01:40
Angels Casa (10-26-2021).

4284 Avenida 80, piso 2. __ Chicas. Prices: 80 k 30 min. , 130 k Hour. + 20 or 30 for oral w / o condom. Tel: _ Hours: _.

Name? Next door to BMW Autos (10-26-2021).

Carrera 68 A #43-13, Piso?. 4-5 Chicas. Prices: 70 k 30 min. , 100 k Hour. Tel: _ Hours: _.Thanks for the good stuff.

Kerty9
10-28-21, 02:09
There is no doubt FLL is bad, and I have global entry (best $100 I ever spent and free if you get some American Express cards) but if you use the free mobile passport app and fill out your info, you can also bypass the horrendous lines. It is not as good as Global Entry but it sure as hell beats standing in the regular line.My return flight from Bogota had FLL as port of entry in USA, and it was the worst 150 minutes I spent in any airport. I had to wait in several lines. There was a waiting line to enter baggage claim area, and once I entered the baggage claim area, it took another 30 minutes for baggage to arrive in baggage claim. After that ordeal was over, there was long winded waiting line to enter immigration area, and then the actual lines for getting your entry into USA. Since I had connecting flight, I had another line to check in my bag, and then another line for security check to go to gate of connecting flight. All in all, it took 150 minutes to reach the gate of my connecting flight.

Just Incognito
10-28-21, 04:10
Ever since Trump passed that new law which basically is going after any sex tourism, even though we are not trafficking, immigration has been a real pain. Here is some added protocol I have been following since trump passed the law. Everyone should follow this because I'm getting harassed a lot more crossing over from Tijuana.

1) You need 2 phones. One you use in the states like a 1 k iPhone with all your apps that you can think of, and a cheaper 300 dollar phone for mongering. On the monger phone you will only need to download what's app, tinder, and uber.

2) when you cross back to the states, especially Colombia which harassed the hell out of me as a solo traveler, you want that phone to be completely deleted and reset to factory settings. For android: Settings / general management / reset / factory data reset / reset. That's it. After it's done you can cross over and they won't see shit. Any google searches, photos, and what's app conversations are gone.

Take a screen shot of your what's app numbers and email it to yourself to a rarely used email. When you get home you can add the numbers back and dump the girls you are getting tired of anyway..How is that real? What happens when you go to a legal brothel in Nevada-do they pop you on the way into California? Or as you cross up into Idaho a fed is going to pull you over: were you in a brothel? I need to see your phone. Most of this discussion is just silly.

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Kerty9
10-28-21, 04:39
I also found a awesome love motel called Ibiza motel on google, has a strip pole right in the room.

Figured once I get some whatsapp this place might be more fun than my hotel LOL.

There seems to be good escort sites to, hopefully the girls really look like the pictures though.

I'm 35 lots of tats usually vibe good with the girls in DR / Montreal, end up smoking and chillin.

Anyone have experience with these sites? Good experiences or bad?

https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/medellin

https://lacelestina.co/en/profiles/location/Medellin

https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/

Will make sure to post a good review while I'm there, if anyone else is there 10/31 - 11/5 let me know, can link up for some food / drinks!I have recently used Lacelestina agency in Bogota. I had a long list of girls that I wanted to see but I ended up seeing only couple of girls from this agency. The main problem I faced was not able to determine which services a girl provides or does not provide or provides only for extra charge. Their profiles do not list what services they provide. And the phone handlers were not helpful in providing such details. I was looking for GFE, DFK and 69 but nobody from the agency was able to help me screen their girls to match my requirements. One time, they send me a girl promising that she provides the requested services only to find out that she does not provide such services. So I stopped using this agency.

I had better luck with eroticabogota agency as their profiles clearly list all the services each of their girl provides and its phone handlers were very willing to work with me to help me select the best one that match my requirements. I ended up seeing 5 girls from this agency and they all were good for me.

So Lacelestina can share face pictures so you know what the girl looks like but they do not list all services she will provide.

With eroticabogota, it is other way around. They will not share face picture, so you would not know what she looks like but they will list all the services she provides. At least, its phone handlers were willing to help to bridge that gap.

I have not used mileroticos as most of the girls there are flaky, I tried to see one highly reviewed girl in Bogota but she did not bother to respond in timely manner.

But milerotica can be very good source if you pick girls that are highly reviewed. Catador columbia forum provides excellent reviews of milerotico girls. You can not go wrong if you stick to girls that are reviewed with positive feedback. I am going to try milerotico girls in Medellin as I have short listed few of the highly reviewed girls. Most of them provide their services around 120 k-140 k price range, that beats agency pricing and non-reviewed agency girls.

Iponux
10-28-21, 05:33
But milerotica can be very good source if you pick girls that are highly reviewed. Catador columbia forum provides excellent reviews of milerotico girls. You can not go wrong if you stick to girls that are reviewed with positive feedback.Should be stickied IMHO.

VasyaPetya
10-28-21, 07:06
I am with Mr. E on this. I have been going to Colombia for 16 years (who knows how many trips), some of which I was married to a Colombian and the rest as a monger. NEVER had anyone ask to view fotos on my phone, never gotten shaked down. I was body scanned once, but it was years ago when I was on vacation with my ex-wife and daughter, but that was in Cartagena. Not saying that shake-downs, etc. Can't or don't happen, but it's certainly not the norm based on what I've experienced and based on what I know of friend who visit Colombia regularly.Damn, 16 years? Thats a long time. What's the longest have you spent there at one time? Any tips on Medellin or Colombia in general outside of mongering?

Surfer500
10-28-21, 12:53
My return flight from Bogota had FLL as port of entry in USA, and it was the worst 150 minutes I spent in any airport. I had to wait in several lines. There was a waiting line to enter baggage claim area, and once I entered the baggage claim area, it took another 30 minutes for baggage to arrive in baggage claim. After that ordeal was over, there was long winded waiting line to enter immigration area, and then the actual lines for getting your entry into USA. Since I had connecting flight, I had another line to check in my bag, and then another line for security check to go to gate of connecting flight. All in all, it took 150 minutes to reach the gate of my connecting flight.Get Global Entry, and when arriving in FLL just walk around the lines and ask where the Global Entry kiosks are which all use facial recognition. I returned with a friend last month who didn't have Global Entry who went thru the same ordeal you did, and the airlines don't like it either when flyers miss their connections. And it's been going on at that airport for months now, you would think they would of cleaned up their act by now.

Surfer500
10-28-21, 13:08
Colombia and now Thailand are saying they want to Crack down on prostitution. What if they want to make a example of someone. They swipe your passport and see that you've been to every know hooker destination in the world. Look at the overreacting on the terrorism laws after 911. They trampled on everyone's rights. They could do the same with banging legal age hookers in the 3rd world.I think you have things backwards, Thailand has been dying on the vine because tourism has been shut down since March of last year and they are slated to re-open on the 1st of November. The last thing Thailand wants to do is scare tourists away, regardless of what type of tourists they are.

Litmus Smut
10-28-21, 16:14
The counter service of Spirit Airlines in Chicago O'Hare was a complete shit show. The all-female staff messed up the lines: line A, international but to Cabo only; line be, everything else. Well, a bunch of people were going to Latin American countries (final destination). But they classified the line as direct flight. You don't find that out until you wait in line, get to the agent, and she tells you to go to the back of a mile-long line. They absolutely refused to let you skip the line to get in the correct line. This is messed up because of how poorly they communicate (dozens of people asked if they'd make the flight based on the line length and which line to wait in), plus, instead of fixing the problem, reducing the number of people in line, the insane request to go to the back of the line after you legitimately waited the first time, was outright dumb. Instead of stepping one queue over, the supervisor insisted people go to the back of the line that amassed to several hundred people by that time. They didn't fix the problem, they just postponed the solution. I heard the floating agent that helps people with auto-check in say they dealt with the chaos everyday. Totally stupid if you know it causes a problem and do not fix it. Unprofessional customer service. Although it worked out in the end, I had to sweet talk the floating agent to let me skip the line. It does pay to talk nice, I thought, but realized that if she does that everyday, then she's just playing the role of the hero when it wasn't required. They created the problem and they offered the solution. Not professional.

The transfer through Fort Lauderdale was much easier. Maybe because I didn't have to check in? Plus, the plane was much cleaner, less packed, and overall much better.

It holds true, I hate flying domestic.


There is no doubt FLL is bad, and I have global entry (best $100 I ever spent and free if you get some American Express cards) but if you use the free mobile passport app and fill out your info, you can also bypass the horrendous lines. It is not as good as Global Entry but it sure as hell beats standing in the regular line.

MarquisdeSade1
10-28-21, 17:56
I think you have things backwards, Thailand has been dying on the vine because tourism has been shut down since March of last year and they are slated to re-open on the 1st of November. The last thing Thailand wants to do is scare tourists away, regardless of what type of tourists they are.Relatively speaking this the best of times and the worst of times to be an international monger jajaja.

The best because at least compared to the recent past I think we will be seen less as "personas non grata" jaja.

When is your 1st trip to LOS scheduled? I'm thinking summer, when its sooper hot and less crowded?

My last long visit was during Christmas and Asia's new year holiday, that's a great time to visit!!

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-08-03-thai-protesters-openly-criticise-monarchy/#text=Thai%20 protesters%20 openly%20 criticise%20 monarchy%20 Bangkok%2 C%20 Aug%203,was%20 encountered%2 C%20 check%20 back%20 soon%20 and%20 try%20 again.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/thailand-threatens-to-shut-down-facebook-over-footage-of-king-maha-vajiralongkorn/news-story/f6a0aa239da11f32480ca2fb9274119f

BTW I think they are opening because Thais are getting closer to revolt and this freak knows it.

JustTK
10-28-21, 18:00
Thailand has been dying on the vine because tourism has been shut down since March of last year and they are slated to re-open on the 1st of November. .Thailand has been saying its taking action to curb prostitution for decades. Its just a sham to appease powerful conservative countries like USA and in EU. They speak w forked tongue too, just as they do in USA and EU. They have no interntion of derailing their gravy train.

Surfer500
10-28-21, 20:30
Relatively speaking this the best of times and the worst of times to be an international monger jajaja.

The best because at least compared to the recent past I think we will be seen less as "personas non grata" jaja.

When is your 1st trip to LOS scheduled? I'm thinking summer, when its sooper hot and less crowded?

My last long visit was during Christmas and Asia's new year holiday, that's a great time to visit!!.Too answer your question as to when I might go to Thailand. Well it depends on how it goes over the next couple of months. If it truly opens up, meaning the mongering venues like Nana Plaza are fully operational and things re-open in Pattaya, ideally I would fly out on New Years.

But honestly, I'm not getting my hopes up. They tried opening up Phuket and it was a total bust, so who knows how it will go as the Pandemic has been unpredictable in both good and bad ways.

Colombia is a perfect example of this, initially during the Pandemic, Colombia would have COVID surges that would follow the USA two to three months afterwards.

So I thought the Delta variant would of already showed up in force in Colombia, but hasn't that I am aware of and things have been fairly stable.

So my point is that things are so unpredictable.

SEA has been shut down for a long time, and hopefully will really re-open.

I would love to return and enjoy the LOS, and hopefully all the SEA guys will return as well and get the hell out of Medellin. LOL Nothing personal against them though.

Kerty9
10-28-21, 21:41
The counter service of Spirit Airlines in Chicago O'Hare was a complete shit show. The all-female staff messed up the lines: line A, international but to Cabo only; line be, everything else. Well, a bunch of people were going to Latin American countries (final destination). But they classified the line as direct flight. You don't find that out until you wait in line, get to the agent, and she tells you to go to the back of a mile-long line. They absolutely refused to let you skip the line to get in the correct line. This is messed up because of how poorly they communicate (dozens of people asked if they'd make the flight based on the line length and which line to wait in), plus, instead of fixing the problem, reducing the number of people in line, the insane request to go to the back of the line after you legitimately waited the first time, was outright dumb. Instead of stepping one queue over, the supervisor insisted people go to the back of the line that amassed to several hundred people by that time. They didn't fix the problem, they just postponed the solution. I heard the floating agent that helps people with auto-check in say they dealt with the chaos everyday. Totally stupid if you know it causes a problem and do not fix it. Unprofessional customer service. Although it worked out in the end, I had to sweet talk the floating agent to let me skip the line. It does pay to talk nice, I thought, but realized that if she does that everyday, then she's just playing the role of the hero when it wasn't required. They created the problem and they offered the solution. Not professional.

The transfer through Fort Lauderdale was much easier. Maybe because I didn't have to check in? Plus, the plane was much cleaner, less packed, and overall much better.

It holds true, I hate flying domestic.Spirit airline has early morning flight from Ohare at 5 am for medellin and Bogota via FLL. I try to be at their counter by 3:30 am, so even though lines are still long at such ungodly hours, waiting time and delays becomes managable.

RacShack
10-28-21, 21:53
Spirit airline has early morning flight from Ohare at 5 am for medellin and Bogota via FLL. I try to be at their counter by 3:30 am, so even though lines are still long at such ungodly hours, waiting time and delays becomes managable.What am I missing bud? Do you or other poster not know about checking in online the night before and head straight to the gate? Or is this a spirit thing? I refuse to fly them anymore, please explain, I haven't waited in a check in line in over 8-10 years! Granted I'm a carry on person for no matter how long trip is, even if checking bags is their not a bag drop?

Kerty9
10-29-21, 04:22
What am I missing bud? Do you or other poster not know about checking in online the night before and head straight to the gate? Or is this a spirit thing? I refuse to fly them anymore, please explain, I haven't waited in a check in line in over 8-10 years! Granted I'm a carry on person for no matter how long trip is, even if checking bags is their not a bag drop?If you have any bags to check-in, than they require you to check in at the airport, even if you may have done online checkin. They also verify that you have filled out migration form required for entry in Colombia.

ColombiaLover
10-29-21, 04:56
I imagine the longest I spent at one time was about 3 weeks. I love to travel, but I love to go home also. I love the pussy of Medellin. So when I go now, I usually focus on that. And I usually am not entirely on vacation so I have some work to do when I am re-juicing for the next girl. In Medellin, I do enjoy going out on occasion with one of the chicas who I like for more than sex. Getting something to eat, listening to music. I actually enjoy going to movie theatres, so I'll go to CineColombia for a movie (whether USA Or Colombian movie) and enjoy the "mixto crispeta" - regular, salted popcorn mixed with caramel popcorn. I like to stop by the little local restaurants. When I am with someone I trust, I enjoy venturing into the barrios to see how the "regular" people live. Take bus to Barbosa, which is a safe town where they grow pineapple. Guatape is something to do once or twice. I like Santa Fe de Antioquia for a few days of sun and pool and the little town is nice enough. Sopetran is another place that is nice. Fresh air, sunshine, nice little town.

While it's been a while, I've done the metrocable, the Christmas lights, museums, the circus. One of these days I'll finally make it to the Castillo and the zoo.

Outside of mongering, my favorites times were with my family. My ex-wife and daughter are Colombia, so when we'd go to Bogota, we'd stay in the MIL's house, pass a lot of time with the relatives (who all accepted me as one of their own), going to the big malls, going to craft fairs on Sunday morning. They would take long weekend trips to a finca in Melgar or Villavicencia and we would go when I was there. Those were great times.

I hope to pass more time at some fincas outside of Medellin the next time I stay longer.

I am not a huge fan of Cartagena. I live in Florida, so the beach there does nothing for me and the weather is the same. I hate the vendors at the beach. However, I do enjoy the Old City, particularly at night with a date for dinner. I also like San Andres, probably because when I take a chica she appreciate it and enjoys it. I can introduce her to stingrays and undersea creatures. Not a lot of night life there, but great place to relax. I have gone to Cali and Barranquilla and Santa Marta. Not in a hurry to return to any of them other than perhaps Santa Marta. Unfinished business there.


Damn, 16 years? Thats a long time. What's the longest have you spent there at one time? Any tips on Medellin or Colombia in general outside of mongering?

JjBee62
10-29-21, 08:17
I imagine the longest I spent at one time was about 3 weeks. I love to travel, but I love to go home also. I love the pussy of Medellin. So when I go now, I usually focus on that. And I usually am not entirely on vacation so I have some work to do when I am re-juicing for the next girl. In Medellin, I do enjoy going out on occasion with one of the chicas who I like for more than sex. Getting something to eat, listening to music. I actually enjoy going to movie theatres, so I'll go to CineColombia for a movie (whether USA Or Colombian movie) and enjoy the "mixto crispeta" - regular, salted popcorn mixed with caramel popcorn. I like to stop by the little local restaurants. When I am with someone I trust, I enjoy venturing into the barrios to see how the "regular" people live. Take bus to Barbosa, which is a safe town where they grow pineapple. Guatape is something to do once or twice. I like Santa Fe de Antioquia for a few days of sun and pool and the little town is nice enough. Sopetran is another place that is nice. Fresh air, sunshine, nice little town...That was an excellent response because it touches on a lot of things.

The Metrocables are a good way to spend some time and see the sights. The entire metro system is a nice way to get a broader view of the city. Same thing with the Transmilenio in Bogota. Although with both you need to pick your time, otherwise it can be packed tighter than a 300 pound woman trying to fit in her high school cheerleader outfit.

Movie theaters in Colombia are mostly superior to those in the US. Just like going to a stadium you can reserve the seats you want. Both El Tesoro and Santa Fe malls have very nice theaters. There's also a theater in Belen that shows art films.

Another fun thing at Santa Fe mall is the Xtreme Carts. If you've got a group to go and race with it's worth checking out.

The Castle museum I highly recommend. There are 2 drawbacks. The tour is all in Spanish and no photos are allowed inside. I had my roommate with me to translate.

On my need to see list is the Botanical gardens. I've meant to go a few times, but haven't made it yet. I'd also like to get to Santa Elena.

EatALotOpus
10-29-21, 12:06
Now, can anyone please point me to any info on that sex tourism law that has been mentioned recently. About buying sex. I am not aware of any such law.I was in Vietnam when the pandemic started with a side trip to Thailand. My fourth trip to Vietnam and sixth to Thailand. Had to come home just before the closing of the boarders. Upon arrival the passport agent asked what was I was doing there so long, told him my reason (Not mongering) and he let me go. The only other question from the roving customs agent was how much money I'm bringing back. Answered and walked out.

I have watched the show To catch a Smuggler where a guy was coming from Colombia and he had pics in his computer and the agent asked him and looked to see if there are minors. None found the guy was let go because according to the agent is not illegal to possess nudes of legal age.

About the "Law that Trump Passed" I'm not aware of. I am aware of the Bush law that states you will be prosecuted in the US if you're found Guilty of a sex offense abroad. But I may be wrong.

Turgid
10-29-21, 16:27
How is that real? What happens when you go to a legal brothel in Nevada-do they pop you on the way into California? Or as you cross up into Idaho a fed is going to pull you over: were you in a brothel? I need to see your phone. Most of this discussion is just silly.US authorities are only interested in harassing guys who have been having a good time fucking on the cheap. They are totally uninterested if you visited a legal brothel in Nevada as then they know you would have been fucked; they would just secretly laugh at you.

JjBee62
10-29-21, 18:53
US authorities are only interested in harassing guys who have been having a good time fucking on the cheap. They are totally uninterested if you visited a legal brothel in Nevada as then they know you would have been fucked; they would just secretly laugh at you.I think the major flaw with his question is the fact that California and Nevada are both in the US. You don't have to stop and be processed through Customs when going from Nevada to California.

BlackThought
10-29-21, 19:04
Except I'm not carrying any "cbd" or other substance that may be illegal. And no, they can't detain me forever. They can't confiscate my possessions and let me go either. Its in THEIR best interest not to do that because if the word gets out this is happening less people will come to a country that wants to go through your laptop and cellphone for no reason (I also doubt this is happening at all).Jajaja you are very naive. Go test your American privilege in Colombia, I dare you. I suggest you do research on how prisons operate in South America before you test your luck.

JjBee62
10-29-21, 19:07
Without getting into too many specifics, this is beginning to happen more frequently now. A single male traveler with a history of travel to Thailand, Colombia, Cambodia and Costa Rica. Boom - expect to be grilled and have all of your stuff turned upside down. Customs some times take your electronics stuff away for hours, yes plural hours, and inspect it, far away from your eyes.

Don't be stupid. Take care and of course, don't indulge in illegal activities.

Now, can anyone please point me to any info on that sex tourism law that has been mentioned recently. About buying sex. I am not aware of any such law.The law being referred to is known as Sesta-Fosta. It's intended to be used against sex trafficking, not sex tourism. It also closed a loophole which left online services immune from the actions of their users. For instance, before the law you could have run a sex trafficking operation openly on Facebook and Facebook had no liability. If I remember correctly, this law was the reason why ISG and USASG relocated their servers to Netherlands.

Personally I doubt if anyone is interested in going through phones to see what pictures random travelers have. However, if you've been identified as someone involved in sex trafficking, they might be interested, to see if there's enough evidence to either prosecute you or turn you over to the US authorities.

BlackThought
10-29-21, 19:08
They don't have to "charge" you with anything. They can just hold you for a year pending investigation, no bail, and can get extensions on that if they want. In the meantime you are in a rat hole with no beds or changes of clothes or means to wash them, and no food unless you have money to buy it. You aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy.If he took a look at how prisons in Colombia is run, he'd think twice before testing his luck. LOL.

Lefeu
10-29-21, 19:37
US authorities are only interested in harassing guys who have been having a good time fucking on the cheap. They are totally uninterested if you visited a legal brothel in Nevada as then they know you would have been fucked; they would just secretly laugh at you.Funny! Do you think they're jealous, knowing that mongers are having a good time and they are slaving away at their boring job.

Mr Enternational
10-29-21, 19:41
Funny! Do you think they're jealous, knowing that mongers are having a good time and they are slaving away at their boring job.You don't think they get days off and do the same thing? Because I am here to tell you that they do. A buddy of mine that died a couple of years ago was an undercover detective in New York City and he posted on here all the time when he went to places like Brazil, Colombia, DR, Thailand, etc. The job is not the person.

Huacho
10-29-21, 19:53
What am I missing bud? Do you or other poster not know about checking in online the night before and head straight to the gate? Or is this a spirit thing? I refuse to fly them anymore, please explain, I haven't waited in a check in line in over 8-10 years! Granted I'm a carry on person for no matter how long trip is, even if checking bags is their not a bag drop?Every time I have flown Spirit from the Yew Ess to another country they have made me check in either on their machine or in person.

Tasss
10-30-21, 03:39
So continuing from my previous posts about Claro phone registration, out of the blue today, without even having attempted registration for nearly a week, I suddenly get a success message. Screenshots says it all. Like I said, I think the Claro registration system was fucked up and somehow someone fixed it.

DzikaBomba
10-30-21, 06:37
I took the Bus from Rio Negro airport to Medellin San Diego mall today.

Everything went fine.

The bus Was for 13 k, the helper AT the drop off who carried My baggage got 2 k from me and the Taxi to Poblado from there Was also 13 k.

There is really many Action out here in Poblado.

But I'm too tired to leave the hotel, so I Just went to sleep and will start tomorrow with full Batteries and go to centro.

The street vendors there are also selling sim cards right?

Osteoknot
10-30-21, 09:03
Having a good time here in the USA but my life in Medellin is better. Everyday I think about returning. I will return to MDE in 2021 which I'm sure will spill over into 2022. I am in Folly Beach, South Carolina at The Tides hotel now and drive back to my house in my classic Z with my ex-wife later this morning. She will return to Pennsylvania on Monday and then I will start working on my immigration Visa for Colombia.

I enjoyed seeing my ex-wife and we travel well together and are great friends but it was also a great reminder of why I do not want to return to my former life, ever.

I have a wonderful lifestyle here in the United States, There are plenty of available females, but everything is easier, more fun, less expensive, less hassle, and more enjoyable for me in Medellin.

The main reason I don't just chuck everything and stay in Medellin fulltime is because my house and vehicles are paid for, and I have a couple of small business interests that I like to keep tabs on. I'm not quite ready to liquidate yet.

Plus, I have this crazy idea of bringing a few, or several, or a constantly stream of Colombian chicas back here for short-term visits and unlimited sex while showing them around the states.

A couple of guys from the board here have told me that's difficult to do. But I'm one of those types who never believes that it can't be done until I try it myself, and frankly I've already done several things quite happily in MDE that I was told couldn't be done, so full steam ahead and damn the torpedoes, as usual.

I have an immigration attorney here in South Carolina who is from Bogota and he acts like it's not going to be a big deal to bring some chicas over but of course that remains to be seen. I will let the board here know how that pans out.

For starters, any Colombian who visits the United States needs a Visa.

Ostee Out.

VasyaPetya
10-30-21, 10:13
They don't have to "charge" you with anything. They can just hold you for a year pending investigation, no bail, and can get extensions on that if they want. In the meantime you are in a rat hole with no beds or changes of clothes or means to wash them, and no food unless you have money to buy it. You aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy.Pending investigation into what? A guy not unlocking his cellphone? Stop watching netflix buddy.

JohnnyWalker55
10-30-21, 18:22
Idk if anyone has tried to go to casa Cuba lately, as the location on the map hasnt updated. So you see casa Cuba. On carr 47 calle 59. It moved.

So keep walking down calle 59 towards carr 48, take a left downhill on carr 48.

Carr 48 -58-64-- to the right of this building is a giant parking garage thing. Can't miss it walk in and go past the security, you will see an outdoor staircase to your left. Walk up, that is the new casa Cuba.

Simply the best, the best. Sebastian the bro who runs the place knows how to pick his girls. Always BBBJ and ymmv on DFK.

I've yet to see a gringo here but I've exhausted my presence at this casa LMAO so it's all yours.

Mr Enternational
10-30-21, 19:25
However, it's a possibility. If it's a possibility, then you should be aware of your lack of any right to refuse. Several of us have tried to make you aware, but apparently you're immune to knowledge.Anything is possible, but is it at all probable? You guys act like the man is going to walk through immigration cussing people out and making demands. And who even is this person that is supposed to be asking him to unlock his phone? Everytime I pass through, it is just simple security saying to put things on the belt and do you have anything in your pockets.

The time I was taken to the back it had nothing to do with that. I was actually in the front of the airport just hanging around waiting to check in or something and the guy came up to me and told me to come to the back room for a random search. You guys are acting like someone telling a passenger to unlock their phone is an everyday occurrence when it is not. Next up: what to do and not do when you get a snake bite in Botero Park.

Combo
10-30-21, 19:39
Anything is possible, but is it at all probable? You guys act like the man is going to walk through immigration cussing people out and making demands. And who even is this person that is supposed to be asking him to unlock his phone? Everytime I pass through, it is just simple security saying to put things on the belt and do you have anything in your pockets.

The time I was taken to the back it had nothing to do with that. I was actually in the front of the airport just hanging around waiting to check in or something and the guy came up to me and told me to come to the back room for a random search. You guys are acting like someone telling a passenger to unlock their phone is an everyday occurrence when it is not. Next up: what to do and not do when you get a snake bite in Botero Park.No one has stated that it is probable. We have stated that it's a possibility and if it happens, he shouldn't act like he has the same rights he has in his own country.

What's obnoxious is this guy (I don't think he's even been to Colombia) ignores sensible advice and keeps acting like foreign police / security must respect his "rights. ".

The best advice of course is don't have anything possibly incriminating or illegal on your possession (including your devices).

Madhu Bhat
10-30-21, 20:40
Has anyone traveled by bus from Medellin to Cartagena or Bogota? Is the route scenic and worth?

DzikaBomba
10-30-21, 21:43
I Just came back from El centro.

My first fuck in Medellin.

Took a small one with died Red hair.

She reminded me of a Filipina because she was so small.

Paid 30 k + 20 k for BBBJ. During the Session I Upgraded to BBFS for additional 20 k, because as expected I could not finish with condom.

So 70 k for full BBBFS and 7 k for the room. I hope this was not too much.

Tomorrow I will come again for a next chica.

In the evening I will try something Here in Poblado but don't expect prices Like in centro.

JohnnyWalker55
10-30-21, 23:52
I Just came back from El centro.

My first fuck in Medellin.

Took a small one with died Red hair.

She reminded me of a Filipina because she was so small.

Paid 30 k + 20 k for BBBJ. During the Session I Upgraded to BBFS for additional 20 k, because as expected I could not finish with condom.

So 70 k for full BBBFS and 7 k for the room. I hope this was not too much.

Tomorrow I will come again for a next chica.

In the evening I will try something Here in Poblado but don't expect prices Like in centro.Another centro rat has been born. And my friend, you got a deal with BBFS for 20 k extra lmao.

Expect 200 k min in poblado without the extras. i was there two nights ago but did not partake, as I already finished thrice that day. it felt like the usa with all the gringos in lleras, and scammers everywhere. couldnt walk 100 feet without hearing english. i without a doubt feel safer in centro.
PS: in poblado make SURE you agree to pesos! it is the norm now for pros there to trick or expect 200 USD lol!

Keep these reports coming in!

Surinamer
10-31-21, 00:14
Idk if anyone has tried to go to casa Cuba lately, as the location on the map hasnt updated. So you see casa Cuba. On carr 47 calle 59. It moved.

So keep walking down calle 59 towards carr 48, take a left downhill on carr 48.

Carr 48 -58-64-- to the right of this building is a giant parking garage thing. Can't miss it walk in and go past the security, you will see an outdoor staircase to your left. Walk up, that is the new casa Cuba.

Simply the best, the best. Sebastian the bro who runs the place knows how to pick his girls. Always BBBJ and ymmv on DFK.

I've yet to see a gringo here but I've exhausted my presence at this casa LMAO so it's all yours.What were the prices?

JjBee62
10-31-21, 00:46
Has anyone traveled by bus from Medellin to Cartagena or Bogota? Is the route scenic and worth?I've driven from Bogota to Medellin and back to Bogota by a different route. Parts of the route are scenic.

Is it worth it? You're talking about an 8-10 hour drive, not including stops. Actually probably a minimum of 10 hours because I was driving like a wild man at times.

If someone is paying you $30 per hour or more to ride the bus, it might be worth it, although I would hold out for more.

MarquisdeSade1
10-31-21, 01:41
Has anyone traveled by bus from Medellin to Cartagena or Bogota? Is the route scenic and worth?I took it from BOG to MDE 8 pm to 6 am.

It was the ride from hell!

Combo
10-31-21, 02:33
Has anyone traveled by bus from Medellin to Cartagena or Bogota? Is the route scenic and worth?Not that particular route, but I've done Cali-MDE and I loved it. Beautiful scenery, especially between MDE and Pereira, though a bit scary at times.

PolloNegro
10-31-21, 04:24
In response to being searched, it was the first time ever and when I looked back, I noticed that there were 3 other black males that looked very similar to me. Same hair style same build in body. The entire event was very strange, but I had nothing to hide and didn't resist their request at all. So many events occur in Medellin and you would have to be there to see the events. I easily recognized that many of the airline stewardesses in the stores around Colombia, so don't think they just work the Airlines and go home and disappear. Who knows what could have been said to someone somewhere in Colombia about the wrong activities and boom, we go to the airport and they are searching everyone who looks like Mr. X. Just a scenario.

On to another topic, clearly there are 2 kinds of Mongers in this group, those who once had their way, based on ethnicity, and the rest of us who know the world as it is today. In Colombia, race means nothing, absolutely nothing. So knowing your American rights in Colombia probably does you as much good as a bald headed man in a hair contest. But from many of the posts, clearly many of you feel as though you have a right to contest what these airlines and federal agents ask for and what they request, but clearly many of us know better.

There is absolutely no reason to contest a request from a federal / international / airline staff member unless somewhere along your life one of you have gotten away with an infraction by contesting it in the USA and it worked. Unfortunately for some of us, we have never gotten away with anything and have the slightest desire to every be around the police, feds, CIA, or Colombian authorities. If these people ask you to open your laptop, or unlock your phone, you are going to do just as I did, comply or sit your high and mighty a $$ in a back office somewhere and miss your flight.

The number one reason I provided the information about the search was because it was strange that it occurred and in the past 4 years this is the first time I ever had anyone ask me to unlock my phone and laptop. I for one can tell you, I had a valid PCR covid test in hand and it did not meet the standard of what the Colombian Government was looking for so guess what? I had to go to the first floor and obtain a Antigen test, which took about an hour, therefore I missed my flight as I was not allowed to board until I had proof of a negative covid test that met the Colombian government's standard.

There are far too many options to get photos and video out of Colombia than to be a fool and allow them to catch you red handed with the photos and videos on your personal phone. Who knows, it is someone in this group who is a International Nudity Lawyer who knows all of the international laws of taking photos through the Colombian airport. Me on the other hand, I am not an international Nudity Lawyer and do not want to chance being caught with anything on my phone or laptop that I shouldn't have. To all of you privileged mongers, suck it up buttercup and continue to stay safe. Pollo Negro is Out!

Surfer500
10-31-21, 15:11
I've driven from Bogota to Medellin and back to Bogota by a different route. Parts of the route are scenic.

Is it worth it? You're talking about an 8-10 hour drive, not including stops. Actually probably a minimum of 10 hours because I was driving like a wild man at times.

If someone is paying you $30 per hour or more to ride the bus, it might be worth it, although I would hold out for more.Just a heads up.

Roundtrip flights from MDE to CTG round trip on Viva Air, a 45 minute flight, as low as $ 75 roundtrip midweek.

Also cheap flights all over the Country from MDE and the local airport for under $ 100.

When I go to CTG from MDE I leave Pobaldo at 11:30 AM, have a flight at 2:00 PM as an example, and am in my Hotel checking in by no later than 3;30 PM. Four hours elapsed time and yes more expensive than the bus.

And I have taken all day bus trips within the Country, and invariably there are delays due to construction, weather, etc.

So very simply put, and if you can afford it, don't mess with buses unless a short trip to Santa Fe or the Penol.

Anything longer, and you will regret it, unless you like driving which I personally don't.

Knowledge
10-31-21, 15:25
The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations. This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers. Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.


It's not fair not knowing why you've been denied Global Entry. At least you have TSA pre-check which can be great at times but isn't as prevalent anymore as not enough people have it, hence they don't man all the TSA security entrances at some airports like in Florida, but give you a card that allows you to not to have to take off your shoes.

Probably the worst airport for international arrivals is Fort Lauderdale. No signage when entering for Global Entry. Everybody gets stuck in the same line. I just go around the line walk in, say I have Global Entry and typically am allowed to enter but was recently asked for my Global Entry card which I don't carry with me as my "known traveller" number has always been used for airline travel. FLL is the worst airport to be flying into from Colombia and I'm sure there are other board members you can attest to this.

As far as getting your Global Entry status back, your only option is to retain an attorney and spend big bucks as anything you write will go into the round file, aka trash can. And God forbid if you were put on the Governments no fly list. There are people who have been put on that list in error and have spent a lot of time and money trying to get it undone.

Surfer500
10-31-21, 15:44
Another centro rat has been born. And my friend, you got a deal with BBFS for 20 k extra lmao.EActually, this newly spawned Centro Rat didn't get the deal you think he got at 70 K.

I know a guy who played Centro for two months recently who is not a board member here, who only did the girls raw in Centro.

And he told me he was paying them as low as 50 K and upwards not including the room for BBFS.

It's very prevalent there contrary to what some may think, as typically for the girls that do it, it's in essence a double pay day for them.

I advise against doing them raw in Centro, but some guys do, and picking up an STD is not worth it.

And I know exactly who the little dyed red hair spinner the other poster was referring to, she's out there all the time, she's approached me, but I have stayed clear of her, and she probably does more guys raw then covered.

The guy I know who did her uncovered more than once said she was really into it, and he cream pied her as well.

Almost like a wet dream coming to fruition for this newly spawned Centro Rat! LOL.

Surfer500
10-31-21, 20:01
The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations. This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers. Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.Perhaps what some members may not be aware of is that you have to be basically squeaky clean to get Global Entry. I have had it for several years, however I initially never applied for it because I had SENTRI, and those with SENTRI are automatically given Global Entry as qualifying for it is more stringent than Global Entry.

Besides the CBP doing a complete backround check on you and being interviewed in person, I had to bring in copies of my tax returns and other documents which they looked over. When it was time to renew my SENTRI after ten years in June of this year, instead of applying for SENTRI which is used exclusively for crossing from Mexico into the USA where you don't have to wait in a long line, they changed the rules allowing Global Entry holders as well to cross rapidly. So I thought I was going to have to go in for an interview again to get Global Entry and I filled out the online application, and within a few days I got an E mail saying I was approved and to pay a fee for the Global Entry Card that was mailed to me with validity until 2026. When I first obtained SENTRI I was given what's known as a Trusted Travellers Number which has remained the same and is entered into the airlines systems when issuing boarding passes.

Makes a huge difference having it, especially at airports like FLL, along with not having to wait in long lines and includes TSA pre-check as well.

I know several members on this board have it, and I will never do anything to ever jeopardize it which you are warning others about.

Tasss
10-31-21, 22:53
YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.

2. Way more foreigners around. Some places feel a bar in the Philippines with middle age to older white gentlemen hanging around talking to each other. Didn't see this kind of concentration before.

3. Girls are rejecting offers that are about 50 k less than what I give for FB girls to go to my apartment (yes I know that's not the norm for Centro girls). At that point it's completely not worth it. At a 50 k difference between Centro girls and FB girls, the risk / reward strongly favors FB.

4. Two Vennie girls who I originally met in Bogota Santa Fe in 2019 are now working in Centro Medellin. I re-sessioned with one of them. She tells me the word is already out that there's an influx of foreigners in Medellin and the pay there is superior to Santa Fe. And added to the better climate in Medellin, there are strong incentives to move their services here.

JohnnyWalker55
11-01-21, 00:17
Surf, you're right, I guess it's a risk / reward kind of thing. I was moreso saying it's a deal for him as it was his first centro fuck, not sure if he speaks spanish or not. He couldve easily been quoted double that. LOL!

-anyways,

Been back on the centro grind every night this week, man's got to hunt.

i've mentioned this before, but More than half the time I get a cerveza with a girl before hand to build up rapport and get GFE, DFK is almost gauranteed when you do this as you're not another stranger having sex after a 20 second convo.

Lately, I've been getting a beer and going for girls that are -already drinking- . Like buzzed. Not sure why this wasnt my M. O. Before.

Peak in the bars behind veracruz where theyre sitting, when they have beers in their hand, have a shot or two with them of aguardiente, it's like water if you're a male over 180 lbs but for girls it hits hard IME.

Just this afternoon I was posted up by the barbershop, a tan vennie with red streaks in her hair, valeria, with a kille rbod and cute face walks by with a beer. Bingo. We make eyecontant, motion her over, I smell the beer on her breath and she's very talkative.

30 k + 6 k pieza, we each get another beer, she chugs half of hers right away lol.
I tell her to put on reggaeton, she starts grinding, turns around and DFK, I get undressed and she takes off her shirt, She looks at the dick and I go "te gusta? she says yea. i go Chupalo asi". She gets on her knees and goes to town. From their rubber goes on, mish and doggy, then mish, she's acting like a girlfriend trying to get preggo with her legs wrapped around.

So yea.

SW + drinks= money. the barrio girls love to party.

And for the simps, if they're more buzzed than you / drunk, it's not freaking non-consensual. They're getting paid lmao. I'm sure many to cast judgement have fucked girls high as fuck on glue or coked out at the club and didn't even notice.

FlagRunner77
11-01-21, 01:02
So, I had to delay my upcoming trip. I had booked 8 nights at Hotel M (La Mansion). I paid a deposit of 2 nights per the website and I expected to lose this as I had to cancel within 72 hours. But they have now sent me a message saying that I have to pay for the full 8 nights.

I feel like I'm being scammed here. There are not terms on their website other than you lose the deposit if you cancel within 72 hours of your visit.

Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.

Fun Luvr
11-01-21, 02:52
So, I had to delay my upcoming trip. I had booked 8 nights at Hotel M (La Mansion). I paid a deposit of 2 nights per the website and I expected to lose this as I had to cancel within 72 hours. But they have now sent me a message saying that I have to pay for the full 8 nights.

I feel like I'm being scammed here. There are not terms on their website other than you lose the deposit if you cancel within 72 hours of your visit.

Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.They have been scammers for a long time. The one and only time I stayed there, they charged tax in addition to the price on their website. On the website, it stated the price including all taxes. It was only two nights, not worth hassling with them. I had forgotten it stated taxes were included in the price. That was several years ago.

Surfer500
11-01-21, 02:55
i've mentioned this before, but More than half the time I get a cerveza with a girl before hand to build up rapport and get GFE, DFK is almost gauranteed when you do this as you're not another stranger having sex after a 20 second convo.

Lately, I've been getting a beer and going for girls that are -already drinking- . Like buzzed. Not sure why this wasnt my M. O. Before.

Peak in the bars behind veracruz where theyre sitting, when they have beers in their hand, have a shot or two with them of aguardiente, it's like water if you're a male over 180 lbs but for girls it hits hard IME.

SW + drinks= money. the barrio girls love to party. Talking about being buzzed, you have a whole other subset of girls in Centro that don't drink beer to get a buzz, but instead smoke weed to get high, and I've been with a few of the high ones, and they really get into the sex and literally anything goes because of their altered state.

Lot's of the SW's in Centro love getting high, pounded, and than paid. It's a win win for some of them, especially the ones that are nymphos.

FlagRunner77
11-01-21, 02:56
They have been scammers for a long time. The one and only time I stayed there, they charged tax in addition to the price on their website. On the website, it stated the price including all taxes. It was only two nights, not worth hassling with them. I had forgotten it stated taxes were included in the price. That was several years ago.Thanks, I'm holding my ground anyway, but good to know I'm not over-reacting. It's a shame because I'm planning a January trip instead but now I'll be going elsewhere. And I won't be recommending to others.

Knowledge
11-01-21, 04:01
Centro girls cost only 50 K less than facebook girls? I don't dispute it might have been your experience but it's misleading to suggest that this is the prevailing trend. 30 K plus the room of your choice is all anyone needs to pay in Centro. This is straight from the mouth of a Centro rat.


YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.

2. Way more foreigners around. Some places feel a bar in the Philippines with middle age to older white gentlemen hanging around talking to each other. Didn't see this kind of concentration before.

3. Girls are rejecting offers that are about 50 k less than what I give for FB girls to go to my apartment (yes I know that's not the norm for Centro girls). At that point it's completely not worth it. At a 50 k difference between Centro girls and FB girls, the risk / reward strongly favors FB.

4. Two Vennie girls who I originally met in Bogota Santa Fe in 2019 are now working in Centro Medellin. I re-sessioned with one of them. She tells me the word is already out that there's an influx of foreigners in Medellin and the pay there is superior to Santa Fe. And added to the better climate in Medellin, there are strong incentives to move their services here.

Elvis 2008
11-01-21, 04:18
The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations.Totally agree.


Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.I agree that there are those two for sure. They even mentioned the alcohol issue when I got my Global Entry. It was almost like "Yeah, like do not bring in any drugs, but if you bring in excess liquor and do not pay the customs duty, your global entry is done. " I kind of laughed at which one Customs took more seriously.


This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers.Knowledge, I am not so sure about this one. I have walked across the border and bought counterfeit handbags and declared them when I re-entered the country. The amount I bought was under the dollar limit for goods and there was no issue. Quite frankly, this was a Mexican border town and if Americans could not bring back these fake handbags into the USA, they would not be selling them, and the vendors were selling them in droves.

As to why Mr. E's GE was revoked, Mr. E has admitted to saying crazy things to customs like "I went to Colombia for the women", and he also admitted that he is completely oblivious to the idea that governments are cracking down on prostitution. He said they are just going after marketing. SMH.

Governments have said in the newspapers and elsewhere that they are going after trafficking and to do that, they are going after guys who monger. I have heard time and again guys say, "I am not supporting trafficking" or "They are going after pimps who really traffic and not guys like me" even when American LE has arrested thousands if not millions of mongers in the last few years. When I tell mongers what LE and the government have said, and LE is after them, these guys attack me.

The denial on this issue is just amazing. These guys just invent excuses why LE is not going after them. Mr. E has even said, "I am not doing anything wrong. ", and I want to scream, "Yes, Mr. E if you are telling customs you travel to other countries to fuck hos, even if it is legal in that country, you are doing something wrong in our government's eyes."

Global Entry is part of the trusted traveler program, and that means that the government is going to treat you differently because it trusts you. So even if you are going abroad to do a mountain of white stuff or sleep with a hundred women, you respond with something benign. Why were you in Colombia? "There was a project I was looking to invest in" or "I went to see my GF". If you are going to use the GF line, you should have one girl that you know all about that you can use as your GF.

You are actually protecting the customs agents who let you in because if something bad happens to you in a foreign country, the shit could come back politically on the agent who did not detain you or customs as a whole. You want to represent yourself as a good ambassador for the USA. If you say or imply that you are going abroad to fuck a bunch of hos, I would expect Customs to revoke Global Entry because you are practically admitting you are a bad ambassador.

But I do not think they have to give you any reason to kick you out. If it is the Trusted Traveler program, they can just say, "We do not trust you anymore" and be done with it IMO. Why in the world would you want to give them a reason not to trust you? Like with all LE, you say as little as possible and be as PC as possible.

DzikaBomba
11-01-21, 05:22
Today I stayed about 3 hours in centro. I have done a few rounds and drank some beer.

It was raining in between and I could find only one who was meeting my criteria and Budget.

An 18 year Old Venezuelan (I checked the ID) with a pink dress through which you could See Her underwear.

She agreed to 30 k for BBBJ + CFS. And 6 k for the room.

Nothing special. She was cold.

After the BBBJ I fucked her doggy and then mish.

When I Was still naked She Just went haha.

Nothing special at all, only her Teenie body.

Then I went because the rain Was getting stronger.

Tomorrow I will come one Time in the morning and then again in the afternoon.

I think its better than staying there for a few hours.

Surfer500
11-01-21, 12:53
YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.

2. Way more foreigners around. Some places feel a bar in the Philippines with middle age to older white gentlemen hanging around talking to each other. Didn't see this kind of concentration before.

3. Girls are rejecting offers that are about 50 k less than what I give for FB girls to go to my apartment (yes I know that's not the norm for Centro girls). At that point it's completely not worth it. At a 50 k difference between Centro girls and FB girls, the risk / reward strongly favors FB.

4. Two Vennie girls who I originally met in Bogota Santa Fe in 2019 are now working in Centro Medellin. I re-sessioned with one of them. She tells me the word is already out that there's an influx of foreigners in Medellin and the pay there is superior to Santa Fe. And added to the better climate in Medellin, there are strong incentives to move their services here.Unfortunately what you have observed is what I and others have seen happening in Centro over the past several months. It's disheartening for sure, especially for the guys who have been coming to Medellin for years and seeing the changes taking place.

However as far as SW's in Centro rejecting offers that are less than 50 K lower than FB girls, well I'm grappling with that one.

I have no experience with Fayboo girls, but have read the going range is in the neighborhood of 150 K-200 K maybe more. So I'm going to have to assume that your asking the girls who have rejected your offers to spend a couple of hours with you, versus no more than an hour?

Also, even with the onslaught of the foreigners, the locals which are the primary client base for the SW's in Centro, aren't going to be paying what the foreigners are paying.

What I have noticed, and have posted about before, is what I call the SW's who I call "gringo hunters", those who specifically look for gringos / foreigners who will pay more. I suspect these have to be some of the girls you have encountered.

Sounds like your a Fayboo guy, which many guys here are, and I can see where your coming from not wanting to mess with the Centro SW's over 50 K.

JjBee62
11-01-21, 16:32
So, I had to delay my upcoming trip. I had booked 8 nights at Hotel M (La Mansion). I paid a deposit of 2 nights per the website and I expected to lose this as I had to cancel within 72 hours. But they have now sent me a message saying that I have to pay for the full 8 nights.

I feel like I'm being scammed here. There are not terms on their website other than you lose the deposit if you cancel within 72 hours of your visit.

Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.I wouldn't expect that they are scamming you. I would check the refund conditions. It seems likely they require payment in full if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay.

I had the same issue with an apartment I rented last trip. I needed to cancel 2 hotel rooms and 1 apartment. The first hotel room cancellation was no problem. The second one Booking said I would have to pay 100%, but I hadn't paid anything and heard nothing from the hotel. The apartment I had paid half up front and I expected I would lose that. However, on the day when I was supposed to check in, they messaged me to arrange pickup of the keys and payment of the remainder.

That was the deciding factor to go ahead with my trip, starting 3 days late. Had a girl I know and trust take the money over and get the keys and I got my original flight moved to a new day.

My suggestion, instead of jumping on the scam bus, is to talk to them and explain your situation. They might let it slide if they believe you're going to stay in the future. Worst case, you're in the same situation you're in right now.

If they require payment in full, when cancelling within 72 hours, there's a reason for it. They are usually booked full at least 2 weeks out. Empty rooms generate no revenue. Trying to find someone, when most of their customers know to book weeks in advance is difficult. For that type of establishment cancellation rate is pretty high.

The reason I say it's pretty high is because they attract 2 types of customers, the repeat customers and the new mongers, or new to Colombia mongers. And the new guys often get cold feet, or get talked out of the trip.

What Fun Luvr said about being double charged with taxes, that would be a scam. Unless you stay beyond 90 days, there's no tax for foreigners. That's one reason why they need to keep a copy of your passport, so they don't have to pay the tax.

Nounce
11-01-21, 17:36
Centro girls cost only 50 K less than facebook girls? ....This is what he said.


... to go to my apartment (....

MarquisdeSade1
11-01-21, 17:37
Totally agree.

I agree that there are those two for sure. They even mentioned the alcohol issue when I got my Global Entry. It was almost like "Yeah, like do not bring in any drugs, but if you bring in excess liquor and do not pay the customs duty, your global entry is done. " I kind of laughed at which one Customs took more seriously.

Knowledge, I am not so sure about this one. I have walked across the border and bought counterfeit handbags and declared them when I re-entered the country. The amount I bought was under the dollar limit for goods and there was no issue. Quite frankly, this was a Mexican border town and if Americans could not bring back these fake handbags into the USA, they would not be selling them, and the vendors were selling them in droves.

As to why Mr. E's GE was revoked, Mr. E has admitted to saying crazy things to customs like "I went to Colombia for the women", and he also admitted that he is completely oblivious to the idea that governments are cracking down on prostitution. He said they are just going after marketing. SMH..I was busted by the FBI in a reverse sting in Chicago answering an online ad for sushi and tamale lunch special.

I asked the dood acting like he was the head dickhead in charge (in his FBI windbreaker) why they are busting us?

He said we are looking for traffickers!

Its about destroying the demand side!

What can they do to putas?

They can fuck your life up way more!

Just put your name and mugshot on the local news!

Nounce
11-01-21, 17:38
...Knowledge, I am not so sure about this one....It happened many years ago to a coworker. What I remember was that the fine was for each item, multiply the number of items to calculate the total fine.

Surfer500
11-01-21, 17:57
This is what he said.Your correct, I missed this as well as he wanted to take them to his apartment, versus at a love motel and this now makes perfect sense.

Taking a SW out of El Centro is kinda like taking a fish out of water.

It's typically not something they have done before, and when you factor in the time involved, and their fear of going with a stranger, it makes more sense as to the pricing he was quoted, and my conjecture that it was for a few hours of time versus a rato was correct, albeit not in Centro.

BlackThought
11-01-21, 18:06
Knowledge, I am not so sure about this one. I have walked across the border and bought counterfeit handbags and declared them when I re-entered the country. The amount I bought was under the dollar limit for goods and there was no issue. Quite frankly, this was a Mexican border town and if Americans could not bring back these fake handbags into the USA, they would not be selling them, and the vendors were selling them in droves.It's actually illegal, I recall seeing an episode on Border Security, a woman tried to bring in suitcases of counterfeit goods, the border agent allowed her to keep 1, but confiscated the rest.

"It is illegal to purchase counterfeit goods. Bringing them into the United States may result in civil or criminal penalties and purchasing counterfeit goods often supports criminal activities, such as forced labor or human trafficking."

https://www.cbp.gov/trade/fakegoodsrealdangers

Mr Enternational
11-01-21, 18:10
The Global Entry rules condition membership on maintaining full compliance with immigration and customs regulations. This includes counterfeit goods like watches and handbags that some guys like to bring providers. Other things that can get your Global Entry revoked are flouting tobacco and liquor quantity rules or providing inconsistent information to customs and border patrol personnel.You are allowed counterfeit items as a personal novelty, but you are not allowed to bring in like 10 of the same thing. If you are in violation of any Customs regulations then they will let you know on the spot or through the postal service and usually with a fine attached and/or making you pay duty for the items you have in excess. They will not just keep it secret and say you fucked up but we are not going to tell you how.

BlackThought
11-01-21, 18:13
Thanks, I'm holding my ground anyway, but good to know I'm not over-reacting. It's a shame because I'm planning a January trip instead but now I'll be going elsewhere. And I won't be recommending to others.Explain your situation, and ask if you can get credit for a future stay. I know many hotels have clauses around refunds, like for Airbnb's there are several diff versions.

Flexible.

Free cancellation until 24 hours before check-in (time shown in the confirmation email).

After that, cancel before check-in and get a full refund, minus the first night and service fee.

Moderate.

Free cancellation until 5 days before check-in (time shown in the confirmation email).

After that, cancel before check-in and get a 50% refund, minus the first night and service fee.

Strict.

Free cancellation for 48 hours, as long as the guest cancels at least 14 days before check-in (time shown in the confirmation email).

After that, guests can cancel up to 7 days before check-in and get a 50% refund of the nightly rate, and the cleaning fee, but not the service fee.

Super Strict 60 Days.

Guests can cancel at least 60 days before check-in and get a 50% refund of the nightly rate and the cleaning fee, but not the service fee.

The Airbnb service fee is not refundable.

This policy is only available to software-connected hosts.

https://www.airbnb.com/home/cancellation_policies#flexible.

BlackThought
11-01-21, 18:20
Perhaps what some members may not be aware of is that you have to be basically squeaky clean to get Global Entry. I have had it for several years, however I initially never applied for it because I had SENTRI, and those with SENTRI are automatically given Global Entry as qualifying for it is more stringent than Global Entry.Speaking of SENTRI, I will be going to Tijuana later this month. Planning on hitting up the HK club as my research shows they have the hottest talent. Any tips I should know about for Tijuana mongering? $100 usd for 30 min is pretty steep LOL.

Planning to park at the border and walk across then taxi to the clubs. It's a business trip, so my hotel is booked in San Diego. I'm assuming it's not as dangerous as El Centro in MDE, and I shouldn't have any issue crossing back into SD at 1-2 AM?

Surfer500
11-01-21, 18:22
Today I stayed about 3 hours in centro. I have done a few rounds and drank some beer.

It was raining in between and I could find only one who was meeting my criteria and Budget.

An 18 year Old Venezuelan (I checked the ID) with a pink dress through which you could See Her underwear.

She agreed to 30 k for BBBJ + CFS. And 6 k for the room.

Nothing special. She was cold.

After the BBBJ I fucked her doggy and then mish.

When I Was still naked She Just went haha.Centro can be hit or miss and I can see what a letdown it was for you after your first day there.

The beauty of the place is that if you get a dud, and can't blow loads every couple of hours, is to just end the session without nutting.

Pay what you agreed to, and grab another one. Maybe your budget won't allow this, but mine does, and I have done this on occasion, and not because the girl was a bad actor of sorts, but it just wasn't working for me.

The best time to be there is from between 4 PM to 6 PM.

Also, the better providers are going to be the older ones, not the barely legal aged ones. Lots of guys like the legally aged young ones 18, but I rarely hear of guys actually having good experiences with them. Nice to look at with a nice body but not much more.

Hopefully your next experience will be better.

ColomboAnthony
11-01-21, 19:13
Any place that is best for massage with super hot women in Medellin? Day one was good, going to write up the report over dinner later. P.S. Parque Lleras is not dead, last night was dope.

Jmioffe
11-01-21, 19:38
Am I missing something? It's a shame if a monger-oriented establishment is scamming.LOL, I generally expect the worst out of monger-oriented establishments, especially in North America and Latin America.

They know they have you by the balls, in so many senses of the word.

JjBee62
11-01-21, 20:11
Unfortunately what you have observed is what I and others have seen happening in Centro over the past several months. It's disheartening for sure, especially for the guys who have been coming to Medellin for years and seeing the changes taking place.

However as far as SW's in Centro rejecting offers that are less than 50 K lower than FB girls, well I'm grappling with that one.

I have no experience with Fayboo girls, but have read the going range is in the neighborhood of 150 K-200 K maybe more. So I'm going to have to assume that your asking the girls who have rejected your offers to spend a couple of hours with you, versus no more than an hour?

Also, even with the onslaught of the foreigners, the locals which are the primary client base for the SW's in Centro, aren't going to be paying what the foreigners are paying.

What I have noticed, and have posted about before, is what I call the SW's who I call "gringo hunters", those who specifically look for gringos / foreigners who will pay more. I suspect these have to be some of the girls you have encountered.

Sounds like your a Fayboo guy, which many guys here are, and I can see where your coming from not wanting to mess with the Centro SW's over 50 K.You guys missed the key part. He was encountering girls in El Centro who wanted 50 k less than Facebook girls to come to his apartment, which sounds about right to me. Depending on the time of day and where he's staying, the girl could spend an hour or more just getting there and back, plus the cost of a taxi back.

When you break it down to the time you actually spend alone with the girls, there's not a big difference in price between Facebook and El Centro. It's mostly a matter of personal preference.

Elvis 2008
11-01-21, 20:57
It happened many years ago to a coworker. What I remember was that the fine was for each item, multiply the number of items to calculate the total fine.I think Mr. E is right about this. They never asked about personal use like they did with prescriptions, but obviously with purses, they were not going to ask that. But I never did bring back 10 of the same item. It was always three or four that were different.

I was always shocked at how much goodwill a $20 or $30 fake purse brought me even when I told women they were fake.

DzikaBomba
11-01-21, 21:34
Today I stayed 4 hours and Time runs really fast.

Had two chicas today, Each for 30 k BBBJ + CFS.

The first one Had some baby damage. I only fucked her doggy and finished then. ROOM 7 K.

The BBBJ Was ok. All in all nothing special, but worth 30 k. She Had green / blond Brown dyed hair.

The second one Was a skinny dark which stood outside the church.

She also agreed for the 30 k.

In the room also without any kisses, but She immediately went on the knees for BBBJ which Was nice, Deep and wet.

I really enjoyed that.

Fucked her in different Positions, but could Not finish with the condom.

She then sucks me of again on the knees and I finished in her mouth and She swallowed like it would be a normal Thing.

All in all it was good Day TODAY.

Interesting is when doing BBBJ they never requested shower before and always sucked unwashed.

HBoy54
11-01-21, 22:15
Is it the same one that also says that females that get an abortion are required to eat every bit of it before they can go home?Much as he would have liked to the Trump never passed a single law.

FlagRunner77
11-01-21, 23:06
I wouldn't expect that they are scamming you. I would check the refund conditions. It seems likely they require payment in full if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay.

I had the same issue with an apartment I rented last trip. I needed to cancel 2 hotel rooms and 1 apartment. The first hotel room cancellation was no problem. The second one Booking said I would have to pay 100%, but I hadn't paid anything and heard nothing from the hotel. The apartment I had paid half up front and I expected I would lose that. However, on the day when I was supposed to check in, they messaged me to arrange pickup of the keys and payment of the remainder.

That was the deciding factor to go ahead with my trip, starting 3 days late. Had a girl I know and trust take the money over and get the keys and I got my original flight moved to a new day.

My suggestion, instead of jumping on the scam bus, is to talk to them and explain your situation. They might let it slide if they believe you're going to stay in the future. Worst case, you're in the same situation you're in right now.

If they require payment in full, when cancelling within 72 hours, there's a reason for it. They are usually booked full at least 2 weeks out. Empty rooms generate no revenue. Trying to find someone, when most of their customers know to book weeks in advance is difficult. For that type of establishment cancellation rate is pretty high.

The reason I say it's pretty high is because they attract 2 types of customers, the repeat customers and the new mongers, or new to Colombia mongers. And the new guys often get cold feet, or get talked out of the trip.

What Fun Luvr said about being double charged with taxes, that would be a scam. Unless you stay beyond 90 days, there's no tax for foreigners. That's one reason why they need to keep a copy of your passport, so they don't have to pay the tax.Please point me to the terms and conditions you reference. Because I can't find any. Nor were any communicated to me when I paid by phone.

On the website it says 2 nights deposit is required and this is not refunded if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay. These are the only terms I can find on the full site. Which is why I was expecting to lose the 2 nights. I'm having no further communication with them until they can point me to the terms which state I require to pay in full.

BlackThought
11-01-21, 23:29
Please point me to the terms and conditions you reference. Because I can't find any. Nor were any communicated to me when I paid by phone.

On the website it says 2 nights deposit is required and this is not refunded if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay. These are the only terms I can find on the full site. Which is why I was expecting to lose the 2 nights. I'm having no further communication with them until they can point me to the terms which state I require to pay in full.Take screenshots and get ready to dispute the charge through your credit card.

Paulie97
11-02-21, 00:02
Please point me to the terms and conditions you reference. Because I can't find any. Nor were any communicated to me when I paid by phone.

On the website it says 2 nights deposit is required and this is not refunded if you cancel within 72 hours of your stay. These are the only terms I can find on the full site. Which is why I was expecting to lose the 2 nights. I'm having no further communication with them until they can point me to the terms which state I require to pay in full.The scam is in that they charge $80 a night for $20, two star rooms while calling in over priced girls in the 5 to 7 range, while the same you can easily find on your own with Google Translate and very little effort. Then again if their online disclosure says you lose a two night deposit, with no mention of forfeiting payment for your entire stay then you have yet another scam going. For that one deal with your CC company, disputing any charges over the two night deposit.

P.S. Yea I know some mongers need to be coddled, have their hands held, thus the Mansion. If someone hasn't grown a pair by age 50 they likely never will, thus a sad circumstance all the way around.

Knowledge
11-02-21, 00:40
You are a full fledged Centro rat Sir.


Today I stayed 4 hours and Time runs really fast.

Had two chicas today, Each for 30 k BBBJ + CFS.

The first one Had some baby damage. I only fucked her doggy and finished then. ROOM 7 K.

The BBBJ Was ok. All in all nothing special, but worth 30 k. She Had green / blond Brown dyed hair.

The second one Was a skinny dark which stood outside the church.

She also agreed for the 30 k.

In the room also without any kisses, but She immediately went on the knees for BBBJ which Was nice, Deep and wet.

I really enjoyed that.

Fucked her in different Positions, but could Not finish with the condom..

Nounce
11-02-21, 00:59
I think Mr. E is right about this....The counterfeit items were DVD movies.

Nounce
11-02-21, 01:01
Please point me to the terms and conditions you reference....He is saying a possibility and you need to find it which I think you did based on your post.

DzikaBomba
11-02-21, 01:21
I'm really questioning myself why I booked my room here in Poblado, but now its too late, because I already paid the full amount.

Everything Poblado has to offer I had in the daytime in centro for much less. Here they are speaking English and prices are quoted often in Dollares. After I came back from centro it bores me here.

I will later ask if I can change to an other ayenda in laureless.

The can Club Colombia here Costs 6 k, in centro I paid 2,3 k. But its still the same beer.

I will not start the topic with chicas, because you know These topic already.

Knowledge
11-02-21, 01:28
OK, I stand corrected about how to keep Global Entry. I'm pleased to have it for 15 years now, even if its through dumb luck only.


You are allowed counterfeit items as a personal novelty, but you are not allowed to bring in like 10 of the same thing. If you are in violation of any Customs regulations then they will let you know on the spot or through the postal service and usually with a fine attached and/or making you pay duty for the items you have in excess. They will not just keep it secret and say you fucked up but we are not going to tell you how.

Knowledge
11-02-21, 01:37
Of course it's illegal. The Global Entry rules specifically call out counterfeit goods as an example of what can get your membership denied or revoked. I think Mr. E is right that it isn't likely to be an issue if you have a single item but if the inspector decides to flag you then you are done.


It's actually illegal, I recall seeing an episode on Border Security, a woman tried to bring in suitcases of counterfeit goods, the border agent allowed her to keep 1, but confiscated the rest.

"It is illegal to purchase counterfeit goods. Bringing them into the United States may result in civil or criminal penalties and purchasing counterfeit goods often supports criminal activities, such as forced labor or human trafficking."

https://www.cbp.gov/trade/fakegoodsrealdangers

Knowledge
11-02-21, 01:40
Centro is not for everybody and of course neither is Poblado. You are one of us now Dzika.


I'm really questioning myself why I booked my room here in Poblado, but now its too late, because I already paid the full amount.

Everything Poblado has to offer I had in the daytime in centro for much less. Here they are speaking English and prices are quoted often in Dollares. After I came back from centro it bores me here.

I will later ask if I can change to an other ayenda in laureless.

The can Club Colombia here Costs 6 k, in centro I paid 2,3 k. But its still the same beer.

I will not start the topic with chicas, because you know These topic already.

Surfer500
11-02-21, 01:42
Speaking of SENTRI, I will be going to Tijuana later this month. Planning on hitting up the HK club as my research shows they have the hottest talent. Any tips I should know about for Tijuana mongering? $100 usd for 30 min is pretty steep LOL.

Planning to park at the border and walk across then taxi to the clubs. It's a business trip, so my hotel is booked in San Diego. I'm assuming it's not as dangerous as El Centro in MDE, and I shouldn't have any issue crossing back into SD at 1-2 AM?Did you mean to post this on the Tijuana thread?

Arthur62
11-02-21, 01:48
After one month of searching, I have 50 girls as Friend. They are all clearly pro or semi-pro.

Now, when I talk to a SW, I'm comfortable asking "how much" or proposing my amount, but this is my first time with FB girls. How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, or simply appear unnecessarily rude with them.

P.S. Next Saturday I'll be in Medellin testing all the great things I have learnt from this community.

ChuchoLoco
11-02-21, 01:50
Today I stayed 4 hours and Time runs really fast.

Had two chicas today, Each for 30 k BBBJ + CFS.

The first one Had some baby damage. I only fucked her doggy and finished then. ROOM 7 K.

The BBBJ Was ok. All in all nothing special, but worth 30 k. She Had green / blond Brown dyed hair.

The second one Was a skinny dark which stood outside the church.

She also agreed for the 30 k.

In the room also without any kisses, but She immediately went on the knees for BBBJ which Was nice, Deep and wet.

I really enjoyed that.

Fucked her in different Positions, but could Not finish with the condom.

She then sucks me of again on the knees and I finished in her mouth and She swallowed like it would be a normal Thing.

All in all it was good Day TODAY.

Interesting is when doing BBBJ they never requested shower before and always sucked unwashed.They did you a favor by not kissing you! Why in the world would you even want or try to kiss a street prepago? Hopefully by seeing that you got BJ no condom and wasn't even asked to wash will be a lesson to you and anyone else who is looking for kisses. They lick butt too.

DzikaBomba
11-02-21, 02:01
Also, the better providers are going to be the older ones, not the barely legal aged ones. Lots of guys like the legally aged young ones 18, but I rarely hear of guys actually having good experiences with them. Nice to look at with a nice body but not much more.

Hopefully your next experience will be better.You are absolutely right. The only nice hing about her was the teenie body without any baby damage.

The older give the better experience almost every time, because they have more experience and are not shy.

But she approached me today (in a White dress with Red plastic devil Horns on her head, together with her Clique) and I was really considering taking her again because of her nice teenie body, but after 2 nuts and multiple cervezas doing a third one with condom is close to impossible for me.

Maybe tomorrow or not. I Will see what's on offer.

Tomorrow of course I go to centro again, but then without the cervezas, hopefully I can nut better then.

Poblado bores me.

DzikaBomba
11-02-21, 02:07
They did you a favor by not kissing you! Why in the world would you even want or try to kiss a street prepago? Hopefully by seeing that you got BJ no condom and wasn't even asked to wash will be a lesson to you and anyone else who is looking for kisses. They lick butt too.Yes you are right! Also the swallowing was a normal Thing for her.

And during Our Session she had not seen the bathroom from inside. No rinsing the mouth, nothing. Bon Appetit haha!

My first one (and last one) gave me DFK.

Bit you are right, I Will stat away from Things like that from now on.

ColombiaLover
11-02-21, 02:14
I rarely lie to the chicas, but this is one case where I do. I tell them that I know their time is very valuable (which it really is not, if you consider the Colombian minimum wage) and wonder how much they require for their time. I never talk about the actual acts. That comes later. Better to know if they are reasonable or think you are a sucker.

If they ask for more than 200, I tell them that I am sure they are worth it, but that I have been traveling to Colombia for 16 years and have some friends who give me great service for much less. Sometimes they come back with a more realistic price (once they realize that I'm not a newbie or a sucker) and sometimes they don't. Be willing to walk away. A lot of the girls will direct you to Whatsapp when you start talking about money or services to be provided.

All of that said, sometimes you just get a vibe. And I don't end up talking anything about money. We both know money will be involved. But we focus more on the time we'll be together. In those cases, I just pay them at the end. Can only think of one or two instances when the girl wanted more than what I gave. Most of those girls are happy. And many of them never look to see what I gave them. But it takes time to get a feel for when you can treat a girl like this or when you need to negotiate in advance.


After one month of searching, I have 50 girls as Friend. They are all clearly pro or semi-pro.

Now, when I talk to a SW, I'm comfortable asking "how much" or proposing my amount, but this is my first time with FB girls. How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, or simply appear unnecessarily rude with them.

P.S. Next Saturday I'll be in Medellin testing all the great things I have learnt from this community.

Surfer500
11-02-21, 02:29
Today I stayed 4 hours and Time runs really fast.
Had two chicas today, Each for 30 k BBBJ + CFS.
Interesting is when doing BBBJ they never requested shower before and always sucked unwashed.So this begs the question whether the girls are showering and your not?

And if the girls are not requesting to shower beforehand, your not requiring them to shower?

I've never ever done a girl in Centro without both of us showering beforehand, but also don't use the 7 K rooms that don't have hot water either.

Honestly, and this is just me, I wouldn't feel comfortable if a girl didn't ask me to shower before blowing me. Yet I am aware that a lot of the locals using the 7 K rooms on the backside of the Church are used to just peeling their clothes off and going at it.

So your rolling like a local which is awesome!

Welcome to the club!

DzikaBomba
11-02-21, 03:01
Does anyone know where I can buy tadalafil (Cialis) for a decent price here in Medellin?

Are they are selling fakes somewhere?

I Was in the pharmacy and they quoted me a ridiculous price (240 k for a Box of 8 pills a 20 MG).

I could not believe that and was thinking this is some understanding mistake and needed to switch to English and even showing the price with an calculator.

Can I buy tadalafil somewhere here for a acceptable price or better to buy somewhere else?

Nounce
11-02-21, 03:43
A... How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, ...Get their number to message on WhatsApp.

Mr Enternational
11-02-21, 04:19
Of course it's illegal. The Global Entry rules specifically call out counterfeit goods as an example of what can get your membership denied or revoked. I think Mr. E is right that it isn't likely to be an issue if you have a single item but if the inspector decides to flag you then you are done.My wingman got busted on that and that is why he can not get global entry. They told him about the one item as a novelty deal when he got busted.

Elvis 2008
11-02-21, 04:47
Of course it's illegal. The Global Entry rules specifically call out counterfeit goods as an example of what can get your membership denied or revoked. I think Mr. E is right that it isn't likely to be an issue if you have a single item but if the inspector decides to flag you then you are done.It is funny how this works. The city I bought these purses in was small, and there was not too much traffic between the USA and Mexico. Border patrol seemed to know that without much foot traffic, their hours / jobs were in jeopardy.

This is in marked contrast to the heavier border crossings in Juarez / El Paso and San Diego / Tijuana. The attitudes there were much different and much more strict. Come to think of it, I did not see many counterfeit goods in Juarez or Tijuana. When I say there were fake purses, I mean all the big stores had them, and the stores had thousands if not tens of thousands of them. They were illegal DVDs being sold but they were usually just sold by street vendors. It is amazing then how the law is so variably enforced.

Thanks for the info, Knowledge and BT. I usually declare nothing when I fly in and use GE and do not bring anything so there has been no issue but this is good to know.

JjBee62
11-02-21, 04:53
Centro can be hit or miss and I can see what a letdown it was for you after your first day there.

The beauty of the place is that if you get a dud, and can't blow loads every couple of hours, is to just end the session without nutting.

Pay what you agreed to, and grab another one. Maybe your budget won't allow this, but mine does, and I have done this on occasion, and not because the girl was a bad actor of sorts, but it just wasn't working for me.

The best time to be there is from between 4 PM to 6 PM.

Also, the better providers are going to be the older ones, not the barely legal aged ones. Lots of guys like the legally aged young ones 18, but I rarely hear of guys actually having good experiences with them. Nice to look at with a nice body but not much more.

Hopefully your next experience will be better.I consider that to be a universal truth, the older women are more likely to give better service. I've had a couple in the 18-20 range who knocked it out of the park. However, in late 20's to mid 30's range they are almost always much more into it. Doesn't matter if they're pro or not.

JjBee62
11-02-21, 05:23
I rarely lie to the chicas, but this is one case where I do. I tell them that I know their time is very valuable (which it really is not, if you consider the Colombian minimum wage) and wonder how much they require for their time. I never talk about the actual acts. That comes later. Better to know if they are reasonable or think you are a sucker.

If they ask for more than 200, I tell them that I am sure they are worth it, but that I have been traveling to Colombia for 16 years and have some friends who give me great service for much less. Sometimes they come back with a more realistic price (once they realize that I'm not a newbie or a sucker) and sometimes they don't. Be willing to walk away. A lot of the girls will direct you to Whatsapp when you start talking about money or services to be provided.

All of that said, sometimes you just get a vibe. And I don't end up talking anything about money. We both know money will be involved. But we focus more on the time we'll be together. In those cases, I just pay them at the end. Can only think of one or two instances when the girl wanted more than what I gave. Most of those girls are happy. And many of them never look to see what I gave them. But it takes time to get a feel for when you can treat a girl like this or when you need to negotiate in advance.That's almost exactly my answer. Occasionally a girl will ask if I'm aware that she expects to be paid. My answer is always "por supuesto", of course.

Some other useful phrases, when a girl asks for more than I will pay:

"Te entiendo, pero siempre pago (whatever price I'm willing to pay her). Tal vez un otro DIA."

I understand you, but I always pay _. Perhaps another day.

It's basically a shortcut to let her know it's not my first rodeo. It also gives her a graceful way to either walk away or negotiate. Often she'll ask if I'll pay for her taxi. If she's unwilling at that time she might drop her price later depending on her needs.

It also helps to know that there are different pricing levels. That's another thing gained through experience. There are many who aren't coming out for less than 300-500 k, or more. They're the ones who are already making a good living and don't need to turn tricks. Of course just because a girl is asking for that much doesn't mean she belongs at that price.

JjBee62
11-02-21, 05:28
After one month of searching, I have 50 girls as Friend. They are all clearly pro or semi-pro.

Now, when I talk to a SW, I'm comfortable asking "how much" or proposing my amount, but this is my first time with FB girls. How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, or simply appear unnecessarily rude with them.

P.S. Next Saturday I'll be in Medellin testing all the great things I have learnt from this community.I've probably received 40-50 minutes of porn along with hundreds of pictures on Messenger and I've had plenty of discussions about setting up a P4P date. You don't have to worry about getting blocked.

Just approach it like you would in person.

JohnHancock11
11-02-21, 06:49
After one month of searching, I have 50 girls as Friend. They are all clearly pro or semi-pro.

Now, when I talk to a SW, I'm comfortable asking "how much" or proposing my amount, but this is my first time with FB girls. How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, or simply appear unnecessarily rude with them.

P.S. Next Saturday I'll be in Medellin testing all the great things I have learnt from this community.When I am talking to FB chicas I only use messenger for the initial contact and then move the conversation to Whatsapp. I do not trust FB with that information.

As far as talking about payment I read a great line that another BM posted on here some time ago. When it is time to talk about money I write "siempre pago 150 k COP mas taxi. Esta bien?" So far I have only had one ask me for more and she wanted 200 k total which is essentially the same amount.

JjBee62
11-02-21, 11:48
The scam is in that they charge $80 a night for $20, two star rooms while calling in over priced girls in the 5 to 7 range, while the same you can easily find on your own with Google Translate and very little effort. Then again if their online disclosure says you lose a two night deposit, with no mention of forfeiting payment for your entire stay then you have yet another scam going. For that one deal with your CC company, disputing any charges over the two night deposit.

P.S. Yea I know some mongers need to be coddled, have their hands held, thus the Mansion. If someone hasn't grown a pair by age 50 they likely never will, thus a sad circumstance all the way around.I feel I should comment on this, because I know you're a stickler for accuracy.

In that area of Poblado you won't find any $20 hotel rooms. However, very close to the Mansion is Hotel Poblado Plaza, which charges the same price for a room. I've stayed there and the rooms are much nicer. However, I believe they charge 100 k for each guest. So if you're planning on bringing girls to you room the Mansion has its advantages.

It's worth noting they've remodeled most of the rooms in the past 2 years, which should increase the value.

My experience from my brief stay is that the girls average better than you'll find in the casas, quite a bit better. I also have quite a few girls on Facebook who regularly post pictures from the Mansion and very few casa girls are comparable.

Concerning your postscript, the same could be applied to those who visit casas and strip clubs. You have preset prices and time limits and a mostly predetermined level of service. It's not difficult, although many casas require you to climb stairs.

However, that's not how I see things. The first gringo monger I met in Medellin had been told by others he should stay in El Centro, on his first mongering trip and his first trip to Colombia. I recommended staying at the Mansion. He spent 1 night in an El Centro hotel, afraid to leave his room. The next day he was lucky enough to get a room at the Mansion and his trip was salvaged.

Everyone has a different comfort zone and it has nothing to do with needing someone to hold their hand. There are mongers with decades of experience all over the world who like to have a wingman.

The Mansion isn't for everyone, but neither is Conejitas. Each has things which appeal to some and each has its drawbacks. Criticizing someone for how they choose to monger seems petty. I say if what you're doing makes you happy, then do it.

Surfer500
11-02-21, 13:14
I'm really questioning myself why I booked my room here in Poblado, but now its too late, because I already paid the full amount.

Everything Poblado has to offer I had in the daytime in centro for much less. Here they are speaking English and prices are quoted often in Dollares. After I came back from centro it bores me here.

I will later ask if I can change to an other ayenda in laureless.

The can Club Colombia here Costs 6 k, in centro I paid 2,3 k. But its still the same beer.

I will not start the topic with chicas, because you know These topic already.Perhaps spend an evening in El Centro say from around 7 PM until 10 PM if you haven't already done so and walk around the Veracruz Church area, the Museum, and under the Metro. Up until around 8-9 PM things will kinda be okay, a bit dicey, but when all the storefronts are shut down the creepy crawlies, zombies, sacaleros, and other creatures of the night will be out and you do not want to be there, however the Avenida De La Grief area wil be okay where the bars are open on the main road. Once the Police are gone in Centro, it becomes the Wild West on steroids.

Lots of guys who stay in Centro don't go out much at night as it's not safe, but it's not safe in Poblado either, but perhaps safer within the major entertainment areas around Lleras and Provenza. If you like being out at night for dinner, people watching, etc. Centro is not the place to be. You might like the vibe of LA 70 in Laureles, and if you stay near the Metro Station it would perfect for you as you can hop on the Mettro, transfer at the San Antonio Station, and boom your one stop away from ground zero at the Parque Berrio Station.

If you can pass as a Colombian looks wise including how your dressed versus being an obvious foreigner this well help being out at night, yet nobody is immune from being jacked up and being an obvious foreigner puts a big bullseye on your back whether it's day or night. So although things are more expensive outside of Centro, I don't recommend guys stay there yet many do. I have an Asian friend who sticks out like a sore thumb that rents a room in a building near the Nutibarra Hotel, and he says he stays out until about 8 PM, but than hunkers down in his room until morning.

Turgid
11-02-21, 14:35
I'm really questioning myself why I booked my room here in Poblado, but now its too late, because I already paid the full amount.

Everything Poblado has to offer I had in the daytime in centro for much less. Here they are speaking English and prices are quoted often in Dollares. After I came back from centro it bores me here.

I will later ask if I can change to an other ayenda in laureless.

The can Club Colombia here Costs 6 k, in centro I paid 2,3 k. But its still the same beer.

I will not start the topic with chicas, because you know These topic already.You take accommodation in Poblado if you want to hobnob with the Colombian well-to-dos.

The Cane
11-02-21, 15:09
You take accommodation in Poblado if you want to hobnob with the Colombian well-to-dos.Poblado is where I liked to stay in Medellin. Clean and relatively safe with lots of hot chicas walking around LOL! From there, I could go anywhere I wanted to in the city or area, then return to the comfort and safety of home base.

Surfer500
11-02-21, 15:50
Does anyone know where I can buy tadalafil (Cialis) for a decent price here in Medellin?

Are they are selling fakes somewhere?

I Was in the pharmacy and they quoted me a ridiculous price (240 k for a Box of 8 pills a 20 MG).

I could not believe that and was thinking this is some understanding mistake and needed to switch to English and even showing the price with an calculator.

Can I buy tadalafil somewhere here for a acceptable price or better to buy somewhere else?For generic Viagra 50 MG it should be about 8-10 K for four pills and all of the brands seem to work very well.

What probably happened was that you were quoted the real Cilalis versus a generic which should of been substantially less.

Just shop around, ask to see the expiration date, fecha de vencimento on the box, and talk with the people in the pharmacy.

Nothing wrong with the generics, and I have never heard of fake ED drugs being sold in a Colombian pharmacy, especially in the chain pharmacies, so I wouldn't be concerned about that.

DzikaBomba
11-02-21, 16:16
So this begs the question whether the girls are showering and your not?

And if the girls are not requesting to shower beforehand, your not requiring them to shower?

I've never ever done a girl in Centro without both of us showering beforehand, but also don't use the 7 K rooms that don't have hot water either.

Honestly, and this is just me, I wouldn't feel comfortable if a girl didn't ask me to shower before blowing me. Yet I am aware that a lot of the locals using the 7 K rooms on the backside of the Church are used to just peeling their clothes off and going at it.

So your rolling like a local which is awesome!

Welcome to the club!I must admit that I enjoyed the BBBJ without shower before.

I always shower before I leave the hotel and I'm circumcised so I didn't felt dirty or smelly and was comfortable with them sucking me off without a shower before.

But I always showered (and always will) After the deed.

Thanks for all the other information.

Today I will go a bit later to centro (without gringo clothing) and See if I still like it then.

JustTK
11-02-21, 16:49
Does anyone know where I can buy tadalafil (Cialis) for a decent price here in Medellin?
I Was in the pharmacy and they quoted me a ridiculous price (240 k for a Box of 8 pills a 20 MG).
Not sure, but you can buy 2 pills of Sildenafil 100 MG for 7. 500 from pharmacies in El Centro. It works just as well for me, and a fraction of the price. I only use half each time.

Huacho
11-02-21, 16:52
Some other useful phrases, when a girl asks for more than I will pay: "Te entiendo, pero siempre pago (whatever price I'm willing to pay her). Tal vez un otro dia."So in Spanish, you never, ever, ever use 'un' with 'otro' nor 'una' with 'otra. ' Nunca. Jamás. It's included. The Spanish word for 'other' is otro / otra. And, the Spanish word for 'another' is. (wait for it) .[B]otro/otra. So, 'un otro día' is incorrect and redundant. It's just 'tal vez otro día. ' Native speakers of English have a hard time with this. In general in Spanish, the indefinite article (a, an, some) is used much less frequently than in English. The definite article (the) is used much more frequently than in English.

I need a car: 'Necesito coche.' Not 'necesito un coche.'

I like dogs: 'Me gustan los perros.' Not 'me gustan perros.'

JustTK
11-02-21, 16:56
Up until around 8-9 PM things will kinda be okay, a bit dicey, but when all the storefronts are shut down the creepy crawlies, zombies, sacaleros, and other creatures of the night will be out and you do not want to be there, however the Avenida De La Grief area wil be okay where the bars are open on the main road.
Lots of guys who stay in Centro don't go out much at night as it's not safe...
If you can pass as a Colombian looks wise including how your dressed versus being an obvious foreigner this well help being out at night.Agree with the first 2 comments. The strip of bars / clubs with Conejitas etc is fine in the day and night. Also worth noting that Mercado de La Playa is also quite a cool place at night. Plaza with about 20-30 restaurants and bars. And full of normal people. Its on La Playa - 10 min walk from Botero area. 5 k in a taxi.

As for passing as a local, we have had this discussion 100's of times and I think it is total garbage. Hehe. Every local will tell you a story of them being mugged in Centro. Its exactly the same risk to them. Muggers look for easy targets. That's all there is to it. Being a foeigner or being local doesn't come in to their thinking.

Surfer500
11-02-21, 17:53
As for passing as a local, we have had this discussion 100's of times and I think it is total garbage. Hehe. Every local will tell you a story of them being mugged in Centro. Its exactly the same risk to them. Muggers look for easy targets. That's all there is to it. Being a foeigner or being local doesn't come in to their thinking.All due respect, but your not giving the Ladrones, Rateros, aka muggers enough credit. The easier targets for them are the foreigners hand down because they are not locals, probably won't have a knife on them and will be more reluctant not to put up a fight, and are known to have more things of value on them in terms of cash and other items of value on them than the locals.

So put yourself in a muggers shoes. Two men of the same size are walking on a deserted street. One on one side of the street is local, and on the other side is an obvious foreigner. So you don't think that will factor into a muggers decision as to which one to jack up.

I'm not disagreeing with the premise that everyone is at risk whether a local or a foreigner, but just am saying that the smarter muggers will be selective if and when they have the opportunity.

As far as passing as a local, well it does make a difference in many ways, especially in El Centro.

You have to ask yourself whether you would rather not stick out like a sore thumb with everyone checking you out and looking at you, versus nobody giving you a second look.

For some guys in Centro who are obvious foreigners, they garner a lot of attention with the Chicas as they like the attention.

While there are other foreigners, albeit a few, who can pass as a Colombian looks / dress wise who want no attention at all, and would rather be flying under the radar with now one paying attention to them.

Surfer500
11-02-21, 18:32
So in Spanish, you never, ever, ever use 'un' with 'otro' nor 'una' with 'otra. ' Nunca. Jams. It's included. The Spanish word for 'other' is otro / otra. And, the Spanish word for 'another' is. (wait for it) . So, 'un otro da' is incorrect and redundant. It's just 'tal vez otro da. ' Native speakers of English have a hard time with this. In general in Spanish, the indefinite article (a, an, some) is used much less frequently than in English. The definite article (the) is used much more frequently than in English.

I need a car: 'Necesito coche.' Not 'necesito un coche.'

I like dogs: 'Me gustan perros.' Not 'me gustan perros.'Poor Jbee2 with all those Spanish courses he took at EAFIT and still can't get it right.

Yet everybody will understand exactly what he is saying whether he should of used an "a" or an "o" or should of left something out.

Oh, and you left out the "a" in Jamas which like Nunca means never, and I knew you weren't referring to a jam you spread on toast. LOL.

All kidding aside, I wish I had a better knowledge of the language, and grapple at times, like most of the time, but typically can get my point across. I struggle when people speak quickly, or have a an accent.

As an example, I remember being in Glasgow England and swore the people weren't speaking English but they were.

Tomcat 88
11-02-21, 19:56
When I first moved to Medellin, I shopped at different pharmacies all over downtown. I found widely varying prices for generic sildenafil.

Then I tried Drogas Calidad, CL 54 # 47-29, near Parque Bolivar, have never shopped anywhere else since. Two 50 MG generic chewable sildenafil of brand AG cost 2. 000 pesos. I usually buy 20 boxes at a time. They also deliver free to anywhere in the city in 2-4 hours.

Don't know about other drugs, but there is always a line. Best time to shop is early in morning.

Perfectionist
11-02-21, 20:26
Perhaps one of you seasoned mongers may be able to offer some advice!

I began frequenting FKK clubs in Germany back in 2013. More specifically 'Sharks and Oase'.

At that time I was spoilt with the selection of Colombian and Brazilian ladies who were blessed with amazing bubble butts!

Sadly with the new government work visa situation there are no longer any of these ladies.

If I were to travel to Colombia could anyone recommend any club or specific ladies who possess a heavenly bubble butt!!

Many thanks.

Fun Luvr
11-02-21, 20:34
... What Fun Luvr said about being double charged with taxes, that would be a scam. Unless you stay beyond 90 days, there's no tax for foreigners. That's one reason why they need to keep a copy of your passport, so they don't have to pay the tax.I brought that up when I checked out, and the lady at checkout said the exemption is only for new buildings. I knew she was not correct, but not worth arguing about. It's just an example that they know they are scamming their guests.

JustTK
11-02-21, 21:00
The easier targets for them are the foreigners hand down because they are not locals, probably won't have a knife on them and will be more reluctant not to put up a fight, and are known to have more things of value on them in terms of cash and other items of value on them than the locals.
So put yourself in a muggers shoes. Two men of the same size are walking on a deserted street. One on one side of the street is local, and on the other side is an obvious foreigner. So you don't think that will factor into a muggers decision as to which one to jack up.
I'm not disagreeing with the premise that everyone is at risk whether a local or a foreigner, but just am saying that the smarter muggers will be selective if and when they have the opportunity.
For some guys in Centro who are obvious foreigners, they garner a lot of attention with the Chicas as they like the attention.
I would love to see some stats of crime against foreigners vs crime against locals, but I do not suspect foreigners are at more risk at all. Yes perhaps foreigners are less likely to carry knives than some locals, but what % of locals carry knives? I would guess not many. And there are a bunch of other factors that a would criminal will look for in an easy target. How many people are around, time of day, size (foreigners are usually much bigger), sex (females are weaker), age (old folk that are not so agile are easier). Plus I am sure there are many others. Maybe I will ask some the next tme I am in Manrique. Hehe. As for valuables. Foreigners have lots of cards and gandgets that criminals don't know how to use. They would much prefer to steal sutff they are familiar with.

Also worth noting that often times the criminals have a pre-planned hit. So it doesnt matter who is around. The hit goes ahead if they deem it passable.

Yes, I am one of those that wander around looking like a foreigner. There is no way I can hide it. I feel like a baskball player walkin g around Lilliput when I am in Colombia, so these days I just wear t-shirts, shorts and flip flops (but only when in Centro). Iget lots of looks, but most are from the public which is a good security factor!

Mr Enternational
11-02-21, 21:21
Muggers look for easy targets. That's all there is to it. Being a foeigner or being local doesn't come in to their thinking.If robbers in any country only waited for foreigners then they would starve to death. Be on the lookout for 1 out of every 20,000 people that walk by and we will have our target.

JjBee62
11-02-21, 21:31
Poor Jbee2 with all those Spanish courses he took at EAFIT and still can't get it right.

Yet everybody will understand exactly what he is saying whether he should of used an "a" or an "o" or should of left something out.

Oh, and you left out the "a" in Jamas which like Nunca means never, and I knew you weren't referring to a jam you spread on toast. LOL.

All kidding aside, I wish I had a better knowledge of the language, and grapple at times, like most of the time, but typically can get my point across. I struggle when people speak quickly, or have a an accent.

As an example, I remember being in Glasgow England and swore the people weren't speaking English but they were.I have a dirty trick I play on any Colombian who gets too critical of my Spanish. I punch in one English word into my phone and ask them to pronounce it. That word is "Heightened."

Although there's seldom any criticism or confusion and I'm talking with at least a few girls every day.

Surfer500
11-02-21, 21:36
I would love to see some stats of crime against foreigners vs crime against locals, but I do not suspect foreigners are at more risk at all. Yes perhaps foreigners are less likely to carry knives than some locals, but what % of locals carry knives? I would guess not many. And there are a bunch of other factors that a would criminal will look for in an easy target. How many people are around, time of day, size (foreigners are usually much bigger), sex (females are weaker), age (old folk that are not so agile are easier). Plus I am sure there are many others. Maybe I will ask some the next tme I am in Manrique. Hehe. As for valuables. Foreigners have lots of cards and gandgets that criminals don't know how to use. They would much prefer to steal sutff they are familiar with.r!Okay, I don't think we will ever see eye to eye on this topic as to whether foreigners are better targets for criminals than locals. Regardless, I have seen you in Centro on many occasions, and one day you walked right by me and didn't even recognize or remember me as we had met up in Santa Marta years ago, and I appreciate you showing me around there.

I know how good your Spanish is, way better than mine, so I propose to you the next time your in Centro, ask any of the girls you know if they carry knives, and you will find out lot's of them do, in fact some of the girls I go with have showed them to me. Makes you think twice about having an altercation with one of them.

Very common in Centro for people to carry knives.

GeneHickman
11-02-21, 22:03
If robbers in any country only waited for foreigners then they would starve to death. Be on the lookout for 1 out of every 20,000 people that walk by and we will have our target.Not in parts of poblado, there it's like shooting fish in a Barrel. And they know it.

Jcgivesos
11-02-21, 22:38
I have a place set. Flights set. I'm looking forward to coming to town. I don't have any real plans. Some museums. Some women. Some clubs. I'll be staying in the Poblado area. I'm a little worried about find a SIM card and getting access to apps. I'm sure I'll figure it out. Anyhow, thanks for all the info you all have put into the board.

I am looking for some food spots. Must sees while in town. Some club ideas. Other than Gusto, which I plan on checking out.

My Spanish is decent.

DzikaBomba
11-02-21, 22:42
Today I took a chica for agreed 30 k BBBJ and CFS.

She is always on the Street behind the church.

Nice body, but sad face.

But my negotiations went well so I took her.

First Red flag: one of her friends in the Clique whispered something in her ear.

Second Red flag: for the shitty room on the Street she demanded 10 k. She took something in her pocket here.

Absolutely Red flag. She demanded money upfront.

I should end here already, but was not sure if this could lead to problems. So I told her I pay later or we are finished here.

She agreed to money after the deed. But was not happy with that. It took me long to get an erection But somehow Managed it. She Was not doing the agreed BBBJ, because She was licking only the side of my shaft. Then she put the condom on, but I didn't said anything. Better CBJ than nothing.

Then I fucked her mish, but She looked not happy. I somehow finished, but only because I Was alcohol free today.

I took my clothes on and Then She demanded 40 k, because that is the norm She said.

I told here I don't give her 40 because we agreed to 30 with BBBJ and She did CBJ.

She Was getting aggressive and I thought its not Worth IT.

I don't want Problems here.

I gave here another 10 k and went.

Next Time I will negotiate money After the deed. And when any chica demands money upfront I will end the Session immediately.

The Cane
11-02-21, 22:43
Not in parts of poblado, there it's like shooting fish in a Barrel. And they know it.I always felt quite safe in Poblado staying near the Oviedo Mall, but I understand that crime in Colombia in general has gotten much, much worse since those times.

Surfer500
11-02-21, 23:52
Today I took a chica for agreed 30 k BBBJ and CFS.

She is always on the Street behind the church.

Nice body, but sad face.

But my negotiations went well so I took her.

First Red flag: one of her friends in the Clique whispered something in her ear.

Second Red flag: for the shitty room on the Street she demanded 10 k. She took something in her pocket here.

Absolutely Red flag. She demanded money upfront.

I should end here already, but was not sure if this could lead to problems. So I told her I pay later or we are finished here.

She agreed to money after the deed. But was not happy with that. It took me long to get an erection But somehow Managed it. She Was not doing the agreed BBBJ, because She was licking only the side of my shaft. Then she put the condom on, but I didn't said anything. Better CBJ than nothing.

Then I fucked her mish, but She looked not happy. I somehow finished, but only because I Was alcohol free today.

I took my clothes on and Then She demanded 40 k, because that is the norm She said.

I told here I don't give her 40 because we agreed to 30 with BBBJ and She did CBJ..Smart move to just fork out the extra 10 K and leave without an incident. Contrary to what other posters may think, lots of the girls carry knives, and fighting over basically $ 3 USD is not worth it, albeit some posters may say you should of not caved in, however your at a disadvantage being a foreigner, especially in the cheaper Hotels which aren't frequented as much by foreigners, versus Hotels like the Premium Plaza or Zona Rosa which cost almost double on the Church side.

I am assuming it was a Colombian you pulled, versus a Venezuelan, who would be less likely to renege on what was agreed to.

As far as negotiating money after the deed, well that's the last thing you should be doing, as I guarantee you, you will be setting yourself for a mis-understanding.

I don't know what your Spanish speaking level is, but you should re-iterate before entering the Hotel that you always pay afterwards and not before, and make them confirm that along with what your going to pay, and whether the BJ is totally uncovered.

As far as the Hotel, it's best to always pay for the room versus them paying for it.

And you should be choosing the Hotel, instead of them directing where to go, as they invariably are getting a kickback.

If they refuse to go where you want to go, pass on them, another red flag.

I'm going to guess that your Spanish is good, and that you just happened to pull a piece of shit, it happens to all of us.

DzikaBomba
11-03-21, 00:12
After I had the Bad number with the girl it starts to Rain heavy and I get somewhere inside and drank two natural juices.

After the Rain I talked to a girl which stands outside where I Was sitting all the Time, also yesterday. I asked if She would like to go to a room with me. She said no. Ups, sorry I was sure She was an hooker. I said perdon and went.

After the Rain the Area suddenly starts to get really RAW. I saw a Glue sinfer and a man walking around with his crack pipe.

It Was only about 5 pm and policia was still there.

I looked for another girl and suddenly a Junkie appeared on my side Talking to me all kinds of shit and not leaving me.

I told him a few times to leave but he didn't.

He told me he was guiding me and wants a tip for that. I then gave him two of my Fried cake balls I bought before and told him I don't want his guiding anymore.

He left but suddenly appeared again and started telling me he can get me all kinds of chica and drugs I wanted.

OK, I decided that's enough for today and walked to the Metro.

He was always walking by my side Talking all kinds of shit until the metro Stairs.

I come again tomorrow, but at noon. It Was always so peaceful and I have never seen Junkies there at that Time.

Chicas are less, but also other shady people.

Lesson learned, I prefer earlier.

But it Was not late, only about 5 pm.

Mojo Bandit
11-03-21, 00:15
Very common in Centro for people to carry knives.I was doing a some recon of the streets in the Centro area before a trip a couple of years ago using Google Street maps when I came across this scene at Avenue Maracaibo (Calle 53) between Carrera 46 and Carrera 47 about 1/4 mile east of groud zero and close to Parque de Bolvar. I used Snipping Tool to clip these photos. I have posted these before. It appears to be two guys fighting over a jacket and one of the guys, the one on the right with the white t-shirt and camo pants, has a kitchen knife in his left hand.

DzikaBomba
11-03-21, 02:22
Smart move to just fork out the extra 10 K and leave without an incident. Contrary to what other posters may think, lots of the girls carry knives, and fighting over basically $ 3 USD is not worth it, albeit some posters may say you should of not caved in, however your at a disadvantage being a foreigner, especially in the cheaper Hotels which aren't frequented as much by foreigners, versus Hotels like the Premium Plaza or Zona Rosa which cost almost double on the Church side.

I am assuming it was a Colombian you pulled, versus a Venezuelan, who would be less likely to renege on what was agreed to.

As far as negotiating money after the deed, well that's the last thing you should be doing, as I guarantee you, you will be setting yourself for a mis-understanding.

I don't know what your Spanish speaking level is, but you should re-iterate before entering the Hotel that you always pay afterwards and not before, and make them confirm that along with what your going to pay, and whether the BJ is totally uncovered.

As far as the Hotel, it's best to always pay for the room versus them paying for it..Thanks. My Spanish is ok. I can negotiate with them and understand them.

I don't know if She was Venezuelan or Colombian.

Tomorrow I will go in the noon and only do one chica and then leave the place.

No drinking beer there and staying longer, because I think I draw too much attention. Everyone Was seeing for a few days now the same gringo there hanging out and drinking beer and doing multiple chicas.

In the noon its quiet there. Many Shops still closed, but a few chica are already there.

I will choose the hotel on the opposite of the church and pay for it by myself with prepared 7 k.

Zeos1
11-03-21, 05:10
Perhaps one of you seasoned mongers may be able to offer some advice!

I began frequenting FKK clubs in Germany back in 2013. More specifically 'Sharks and Oase'.

At that time I was spoilt with the selection of Colombian and Brazilian ladies who were blessed with amazing bubble butts!

Sadly with the new government work visa situation there are no longer any of these ladies.

If I were to travel to Colombia could anyone recommend any club or specific ladies who possess a heavenly bubble butt!!

Many thanks.I'm sure there's a bubble but club somewhere. Wonder how that translates though.

MongerHunger
11-03-21, 06:07
Today I took a chica for agreed 30 k BBBJ and CFS.

She is always on the Street behind the church.

Nice body, but sad face.

But my negotiations went well so I took her.

First Red flag: one of her friends in the Clique whispered something in her ear.

Second Red flag: for the shitty room on the Street she demanded 10 k. She took something in her pocket here.

Absolutely Red flag. She demanded money upfront.

I should end here already, but was not sure if this could lead to problems. So I told her I pay later or we are finished here..Sad face should have been the first red flag. I don't deal with chicas with unpleasant looks on their faces. I like an inviting enthusiastic look.

Surfer500
11-03-21, 13:20
Perhaps one of you seasoned mongers may be able to offer some advice!

I began frequenting FKK clubs in Germany back in 2013. More specifically 'Sharks and Oase'.

At that time I was spoilt with the selection of Colombian and Brazilian ladies who were blessed with amazing bubble butts!

Sadly with the new government work visa situation there are no longer any of these ladies.

If I were to travel to Colombia could anyone recommend any club or specific ladies who possess a heavenly bubble butt!!

Many thanks.I'm not aware of a specific club or bar that specializes in whatever a bubble butt is. If your looking for women with big asses, really big asses, you should be going to Sosua in the DR. Girls there flought them, and quite honestly, some of their asses are so big, I wonder when a guy penetrates them in doggy, and his dick is not very long, whether it even makes it inside of the girls vagina.

So to steer you in the right direction in Colombia, your best bet is going to be where there are lots of women available, and whatever a bubble butt is to you, you will most probably find it on the streets perhaps in Bogota or Medellin. All shapes and sizes are to be had, so I'm sure you will find what your looking for if your recollection was that Colombian women had them. And also lots of Venezuelan women available as well, but I think the Colombians have them beat for cute butts.

I have a few spinners that have what I call "Bubble Gum Butts", and maybe that is what you were referring to, so small, the size of cantalopes, that you can cup them in each hand, what a turn on, and no problem penetrating them whatsoever!

Surfer500
11-03-21, 13:36
After

I come again tomorrow, but at noon. It Was always so peaceful and I have never seen Junkies there at that Time.

Chicas are less, but also other shady people.

Lesson learned, I prefer earlier.

But it Was not late, only about 5 pm.Don't get dismayed over what happened to you grasshopper! LOL.

Actually the best time to be in Centro is bewteen 4 and 6 PM as basically there is a shift change and the girls that work days are leaving at dark and girls that work evenings till around 8 PM are arriving.

As far as the guy that hassled you, well sometimes they can be a pain to deal with, and hard to shake loose but goes with the territory there so you just have to get used to it.

Lots of guys have problems in Centro for many reasons, yet you have no problem getting down and dirty in the cheap Love motels which most guys would cringe at, so just keep going and you will become more comfortable with what goes on there, along with how to better screen and vet the girls there, along with dealing with the "mendigos" beggars and others who might pester you.

JustTK
11-03-21, 14:39
I have seen you in Centro on many occasions, and one day you walked right by me and didn't even recognize or remember me as we had met up in Santa Marta years ago, and I appreciate you showing me around there.
Really? Oh sorry man. My apologies. Normally I am not on the look out for guys that I might recognise in El Centro. I have other things in my mind. Hehe. But please don't be a stranger if you see me again. We can have a beer together and do some street research to clear this up. Ha.

The Tall Man
11-03-21, 15:24
Agree with the first 2 comments. The strip of bars / clubs with Conejitas etc is fine in the day and night. Also worth noting that Mercado de La Playa is also quite a cool place at night. Plaza with about 20-30 restaurants and bars. And full of normal people. Its on La Playa - 10 min walk from Botero area. 5 k in a taxi.

As for passing as a local, we have had this discussion 100's of times and I think it is total garbage. Hehe. Every local will tell you a story of them being mugged in Centro. Its exactly the same risk to them. Muggers look for easy targets. That's all there is to it. Being a foeigner or being local doesn't come in to their thinking.


All due respect, but your not giving the Ladrones, Rateros, aka muggers enough credit. The easier targets for them are the foreigners hand down because they are not locals, probably won't have a knife on them and will be more reluctant not to put up a fight, and are known to have more things of value on them in terms of cash and other items of value on them than the locals.

So put yourself in a muggers shoes. Two men of the same size are walking on a deserted street. One on one side of the street is local, and on the other side is an obvious foreigner. So you don't think that will factor into a muggers decision as to which one to jack up.

I'm not disagreeing with the premise that everyone is at risk whether a local or a foreigner, but just am saying that the smarter muggers will be selective if and when they have the opportunity.

As far as passing as a local, well it does make a difference in many ways, especially in El Centro.

You have to ask yourself whether you would rather not stick out like a sore thumb with everyone checking you out and looking at you, versus nobody giving you a second look.

For some guys in Centro who are obvious foreigners, they garner a lot of attention with the Chicas as they like the attention.Lets stay on point boys, these punks always look for the easy target, these are pussies, they hunt the small, the weak of the bunch, the stray who looks lost, it does not matter if your Colombian or a gringo or from Mars.

I have no issues with staring these punks straight in the eyes and tell them "fuck you punk just try it, make my day" and they whimper away. I have spent the last 3 weeks on the coast including Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Rodadero, Cienaga and other cities and my attitude with them is if you want to try to fuck with me it will not end up well for you.

A few days back I was walking in centro Barranquilla, not so late at night, and 3 early 20's fucks costenos threw me some comments, I walk by them and stared each one down and they whimper away.

They don't know how to react when they are called on their shit, why? Because most Colombians and gringos don't like confrontation so these punks think that they can get away with this.

They know that when The Tall Man is around you going to keep your mouths shut, don't stare him down, don't disrespect him as he will get mideveil on your ass.

I wish more gringos would learn from my behavior so they will come to know that you don't mess with gringo.

Again they look for the timid, the easy, the lost stray of the bunch. They don't know how to act with a person who has confidence, walks with respect, and walks like "if you try fucking with this gringo" it is will not end well for you because I don't give a shit.

Some of you will have heartburn with my advice, don't care, you can and will continue with being disrespected as they will think that you are their bit*h, not the Tall Man.

I am from centro Los Angeles and let me tell you, I know if you take just a handful of the Black and Mexican homies from south centro Los Angeles and plant them in Botero Plaza these scummy fucks will learn what respect is as these homies, whom I respect, would make all these ladrones their bitches in a few days.

You don't fuck with the black and Mexican homies from south centro LA, I don't, they earned my respect in this regards. Many of you give the centro punks too much credit as if their some scary people, not me. Let me take you to south centro LA and these home boys are the real thing.

And not one Gringo can pass for a local, not one, the moment you walk into centro Medellin you look and walk and mannerisms are completely different and they instantly know that your a foreigner, instantly. You are instantly marked as a gringo from somewhere, instantly as within seconds so don't think that you can ever fit in or blend in. Like you have some kind of stealth powers, hehehehe.

Much love and respect for all, just not the ladrones.

The Tall Man.

Surfer500
11-03-21, 15:59
Really? Oh sorry man. My apologies. Normally I am not on the look out for guys that I might recognise in El Centro. I have other things in my mind. Hehe. But please don't be a stranger if you see me again. We can have a beer together and do some street research to clear this up. Ha.I'm the one who owes you an apology, I should of said Hello, and stopped you.

I was sitting on the low wall with the fence around the corner of the Museum and you walked within five feet of me.

And since I pass as a Colombian looks wise when my mouth is shut, that's why you didn't recognize me, thinking I was a local, just one of the topics we can clear up. LOL.

I guess I was concerned I may have frightened you, being stopped by a local, hence I didn't want to scare you, although your height is intimidating. LOL.

And again, thanks for showing me around Santa Marta when I was there, and damm I wish my Spanish was as good as yours!

Beers on me!

Steve 9696
11-03-21, 16:15
Perhaps one of you seasoned mongers may be able to offer some advice!

I began frequenting FKK clubs in Germany back in 2013. More specifically 'Sharks and Oase'.

At that time I was spoilt with the selection of Colombian and Brazilian ladies who were blessed with amazing bubble butts!

Sadly with the new government work visa situation there are no longer any of these ladies.

If I were to travel to Colombia could anyone recommend any club or specific ladies who possess a heavenly bubble butt!!

Many thanks.I don't think you can paint Colombia and Brasil with the same brush here. Tho I have not been to Colombia I have a friend who sends me many pics and videos. The girls asses are nice for sure but what I would call normal.

The Brasileira Bunda (butt) however is a real phenomenon I have witnessed. Tiny waist and amazing full ass that is neither gym hardened nor fat. There is nothing like it worldwide IMO. I would say more than half the girls I've fucked in São Paulo have the Brasileira bunda. If this is what you seek go to Scandallo or the CLínicas of SP and you will find for sure!

Surfer500
11-03-21, 18:23
Lets stay on point boys, these punks always look for the easy target, these are pussies, they hunt the small, the weak of the bunch, the stray who looks lost, it does not matter if your Colombian or a gringo or from Mars.
They know that when The Tall Man is around you going to keep your mouths shut, don't stare him down, don't disrespect him as he will get mideveil on your ass.
Much love and respect for all, just not the ladrones.

The Tall Man.Wow, your really full of piss and vinegar today, that's one helluva a rant, and although I don't agree with everything your saying, I wouldn't want to get a spanking from you. LOL.

Huacho
11-03-21, 19:20
Oh, and you left out the "a" in Jamas which like Nunca means never, and I knew you weren't referring to a jam you spread on toast. LOL.That's the autocorrecting software, which we are not allowed to complain about. It takes out any letter with a tilde. So I edited it, and missed that. I also missed the ellipsis points around 'wait for it.' So that is definitely not a complaint about the software; it's a complaint about my editing skills.

The 'j' word is stronger than 'nunca' and would translate as never, ever, ever.

Elvis 2008
11-03-21, 19:58
Perhaps one of you seasoned mongers may be able to offer some advice!

I began frequenting FKK clubs in Germany back in 2013. More specifically 'Sharks and Oase'.

At that time I was spoilt with the selection of Colombian and Brazilian ladies who were blessed with amazing bubble butts!

Sadly with the new government work visa situation there are no longer any of these ladies.

If I were to travel to Colombia could anyone recommend any club or specific ladies who possess a heavenly bubble butt!!

Many thanks.They are everywhere. When I was at a strip club in Dallas, a Caucasian woman asked me to guess where she is from. I asked her to turn around and looked at her ass and it was huge. I said, "Colombia" and she said I was right. Most whites in Colombia kind of have a white skin tone that is different than Brazil where so many are mixed but for the most part (that is why I did not say Brazil), the hard part is finding a woman with a small ass in these countries. In both countries I would say 70 to 80% of the women have big tight asses.

I will never forget the mannequin I saw in Medellin: small breasts, thin waist, big ass. And that is the model I saw for the women later. I do not like big asses but I prefer tight to flabby and these asses are tight.

Elvis 2008
11-03-21, 20:00
I have a place set. Flights set. I'm looking forward to coming to town. I don't have any real plans. Some museums. Some women. Some clubs. I'll be staying in the Poblado area. I'm a little worried about find a SIM card and getting access to apps. I'm sure I'll figure it out. Anyhow, thanks for all the info you all have put into the board.

I am looking for some food spots. Must sees while in town. Some club ideas. Other than Gusto, which I plan on checking out.

My Spanish is decent.If you use T mobile, the easiest thing to do is buy an International Pass for 5 days for $35. I think a month is $70, and you can just your own phone.

Sodomize Her
11-03-21, 20:24
Idk if anyone has tried to go to casa Cuba lately, as the location on the map hasnt updated. So you see casa Cuba. On carr 47 calle 59. It moved.

So keep walking down calle 59 towards carr 48, take a left downhill on carr 48.

Carr 48 -58-64-- to the right of this building is a giant parking garage thing. Can't miss it walk in and go past the security, you will see an outdoor staircase to your left. Walk up, that is the new casa Cuba.

Simply the best, the best. Sebastian the bro who runs the place knows how to pick his girls. Always BBBJ and ymmv on DFK.

I've yet to see a gringo here but I've exhausted my presence at this casa LMAO so it's all yours.Do you mean those steps in the back?

Someone else asked for prices.

Thanks.

Surfer500
11-03-21, 20:53
That's the autocorrecting software, which we are not allowed to complain about. It takes out any letter with a tilde. So I edited it, and missed that. I also missed the ellipsis points around 'wait for it.' So that is definitely not a complaint about the software; it's a complaint about my editing skills.

The 'j' word is stronger than 'nunca' and would translate as never, ever, ever.Yes exactly, and I knew that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but if you say, "no importa" it means I don't care, but if you say, "no me importa" its like saying I don't give a fuck!

Is that correct, professor? LOL.

JustTK
11-03-21, 23:04
I'm sure there's a bubble but club somewhere. Wonder how that translates though.Last week I was in Centro, walking down the side street by Verecruz Church. I saw this woman with the roundest arse I have ever seen. It fair took by breath away. She had on these plastic-look bright skin-tight pants, and she looked like she was hiding a couple of party balloons behind her back. It was so comical, she looked like she could have been auditioned for a pantomime or smthg. I'm not sure I would know what to do with something that large and round.

Huacho
11-03-21, 23:21
Yes exactly, and I knew that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but if you say, "no importa" it means I don't care, but if you say, "no me importa" its like saying I don't give a fuck!

Is that correct, professor? LOL.Yes, but in the latter case, I prefer 'me importa carajo.'

DzikaBomba
11-03-21, 23:59
I went to centro today about 12 pm and immediately found one near the beer drinking hall. She has dyed Orange hair and one Front teeth missing. She is small and skinny, that's how I like them.

A Little bit baby damage, but She is so skinny, its hard to notice. She is often there. I have seen her before already.

Everything went well with her. I can recommend her. She agreed for 30 k BBBJ and CFS.

In the room (7 k Real Botero) She sucked really long (unwashed) and I really enjoyed it.

She sucked until I said its enough and then I fucked her doggy and finished.

After that I took a taxi and went to a casa which a friend recommended. But it Was closed with to rent signs.

Then I asked the driver for a casa, but he said he only knows a place, which is dangerous for gringos.

We drove back to plaza Botero. I asked another taxi for a casa and he brings me 5 min away from plaza Botero.

But I didn't like the Atmosphere and the chicas there so I went.

IT started to Rain heavy outside and 5 Taxis did not want to take me to plaza Botero, but the sixth one took me and we drove back to plaza Botero.

I drank one beer until the Rain stops and then found an 18 year Old Colombiana on the Street with the Bars.

She had dyed blond hair and was heavily tattooed. She also agreed to 30 k BBBJ and CFS.

Again 7 k Real Botero.

Her body was nice and I liked her tattoos.

She seemed to be a bit high or drunken.

BBBJ Was nothing special. She was the First one who required me to shower before, which I did.

After the BBBJ I also fucked her in doggy and finished. Then showered again.

She had no Pressure to leave and we had a nice talk.

She said I'm her First customer from Alemania and asked me a few words in German.

Would definitely do her again and told her that.

She politely asked for a tip and I gave her 2 k.

Then besos and adios.

Then I drank one more beer and went to metro.

Are the chicas standing in the Metro entrance area also hookers? IT seems like they are, because they Look like and I think I saw also punters Talking to them.

Does someone knows something about the girls at the metro entrance parque berrio?

Tomorrow I have booked a tour / Trip so I don't know yet what will be possible with p4 p.

But my plan is to go centro again haha.

Perfectionist
11-04-21, 01:22
I don't think you can paint Colombia and Brasil with the same brush here. Tho I have not been to Colombia I have a friend who sends me many pics and videos. The girls asses are nice for sure but what I would call normal.

The Brasileira Bunda (butt) however is a real phenomenon I have witnessed. Tiny waist and amazing full ass that is neither gym hardened nor fat. There is nothing like it worldwide IMO. I would say more than half the girls I've fucked in So Paulo have the Brasileira bunda. If this is what you seek go to Scandallo or the CLnicas of SP and you will find for sure!Thanks Steve.

Manizales911
11-04-21, 01:34
Lets stay on point boys, these punks always look for the easy target, these are pussies, they hunt the small, the weak of the bunch, the stray who looks lost, it does not matter if your Colombian or a gringo or from Mars.

I have no issues with staring these punks straight in the eyes and tell them "fuck you punk just try it, make my day" and they whimper away. I have spent the last 3 weeks on the coast including Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Rodadero, Cienaga and other cities and my attitude with them is if you want to try to fuck with me it will not end up well for you.

A few days back I was walking in centro Barranquilla, not so late at night, and 3 early 20's fucks costenos threw me some comments, I walk by them and stared each one down and they whimper away.

They don't know how to react when they are called on their shit, why? Because most Colombians and gringos don't like confrontation so these punks think that they can get away with this.

They know that when The Tall Man is around you going to keep your mouths shut, don't stare him down, don't disrespect him as he will get mideveil on your ass.

I wish more gringos would learn from my behavior so they will come to know that you don't mess with gringo.

Again they look for the timid, the easy, the lost stray of the bunch. They don't know how to act with a person who has confidence, walks with respect, and walks like "if you try fucking with this gringo" it is will not end well for you because I don't give a shit.

Some of you will have heartburn with my advice, don't care, you can and will continue with being disrespected as they will think that you are their bit*h, not the Tall Man.

I am from centro Los Angeles and let me tell you, I know if you take just a handful of the Black and Mexican homies from south centro Los Angeles and plant them in Botero Plaza these scummy fucks will learn what respect is as these homies, whom I respect, would make all these ladrones their bitches in a few days.

You don't fuck with the black and Mexican homies from south centro LA, I don't, they earned my respect in this regards. Many of you give the centro punks too much credit as if their some scary people, not me. Let me take you to south centro LA and these home boys are the real thing.

And not one Gringo can pass for a local, not one, the moment you walk into centro Medellin you look and walk and mannerisms are completely different and they instantly know that your a foreigner, instantly. You are instantly marked as a gringo from somewhere, instantly as within seconds so don't think that you can ever fit in or blend in. Like you have some kind of stealth powers, hehehehe.

Much love and respect for all, just not the ladrones.

The Tall Man.Your way of handling the punks of el centro is great. Until it isn't. Especially when dealing with multiple punks. If one or more of them has a knife and is willing to use it you might end up dead. How do you plan on defending yourself if and when one of these punks pulls out a gun and shoots your ass? I will certainly agree that MOST of these punks are pussys but not all of them are. There is a member on here and his name escapes me that was attacked and was stabbed when he decided to fight rather than give them what they wanted and he is a very very big rugged dude. One other point, not everyone has the physical attributes to be a tough guy and some of us value their lives more than their $1000. Iphone, I fall into both of those categories, so I pick my fights carefully. I got into two fights in Sosua last year but I knew both of those assholes weren't carrying a weapon. You don't have that luxury when dealing with street punks. Just my two centavos.

JustTK
11-04-21, 01:56
How do you plan on defending yourself if and when one of these punks pulls out a gun and shoots your ass? Just my two centavos.I don't think that's likely to happen. Tourists are not allowed to bring asses in to the country. There are quarantine rules. I guess you could buy one, but I have only seen horses here, and no asses. Hehe.

BTW. Are you a Romeo Santos fan?

Combo
11-04-21, 03:05
I'm sure there's a bubble but club somewhere. Wonder how that translates though.Nalgas respingadas / respingonas / paraditas.

Mr Enternational
11-04-21, 05:34
Lets stay on point boys, these punks always look for the easy target, these are pussies, they hunt the small, the weak of the bunch, the stray who looks lost, it does not matter if your Colombian or a gringo or from Mars.

I have no issues with staring these punks straight in the eyes and tell them "fuck you punk just try it, make my day" and they whimper away. I have spent the last 3 weeks on the coast including Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Rodadero, Cienaga and other cities and my attitude with them is if you want to try to fuck with me it will not end up well for you.Dude how do you have so many problems with so many people? I go all around in all kinds of shady places and never have the least bit of problems with anybody. I would not even know what punks I am supposed to be staring in the eyes. All I see around me from Santa Fe to Vila Mimosa are other normal ass people (maybe some homeless and drug addicts mixed in), not someone scoping out prey. I have never had the feeling that someone was out to rob me or harm me. Maybe they look at me from the shadows and say don't mess with that guy; he is only here for the pussy.


How do you plan on defending yourself if and when one of these punks pulls out a gun and shoots your ass?My uncle was a bad ass black belt. I asked him what do you do if someone has a gun. He said turn around and run like hell.

JjBee62
11-04-21, 06:52
Lets stay on point boys, these punks always look for the easy target, these are pussies, they hunt the small, the weak of the bunch, the stray who looks lost, it does not matter if your Colombian or a gringo or from Mars.

I have no issues with staring these punks straight in the eyes and tell them "fuck you punk just try it, make my day" and they whimper away. I have spent the last 3 weeks on the coast including Santa Marta, Barranquilla, Cartagena, Rodadero, Cienaga and other cities and my attitude with them is if you want to try to fuck with me it will not end up well for you.

A few days back I was walking in centro Barranquilla, not so late at night, and 3 early 20's fucks costenos threw me some comments, I walk by them and stared each one down and they whimper away.

They don't know how to react when they are called on their shit, why? Because most Colombians and gringos don't like confrontation so these punks think that they can get away with this..Much of your analysis I'm in complete agreement with, but I disagree with much of your recommendations.

I've written here several times about how to carry yourself. Walk with confidence and purpose. Always look like you know where you're going. Uncertainty and confusion are going to mark you as a target.

I also believe you are unlikely to pass as a native. However, you can look as if you belong in the area. While nobody will think you're a Colombian, you can become part of the landscape.

Most of the ladrones are scared punks. That's why confidence and purpose help to protect you. However their fear makes them dangerous. If they're pointing a gun anything which scares them can cause that trigger finger to squeeze. Once that happens it doesn't matter how bad you think you are. Bullets aren't easy to intimidate.

VasyaPetya
11-04-21, 06:57
After one month of searching, I have 50 girls as Friend. They are all clearly pro or semi-pro.

Now, when I talk to a SW, I'm comfortable asking "how much" or proposing my amount, but this is my first time with FB girls. How to ask them on Messenger "how much". I don't want to be banned from FB, or simply appear unnecessarily rude with them.

P.S. Next Saturday I'll be in Medellin testing all the great things I have learnt from this community.Did you just go on FB and started adding random chicks you thought were hot from Medellin?

VasyaPetya
11-04-21, 06:58
They lick butt too.And that's how you get ass warts LOL.

VasyaPetya
11-04-21, 07:11
I need a car: 'Necesito coche.' Not 'necesito un coche.'

I like dogs: 'Me gustan los perros.' Not 'me gustan perros.'Interesting. Duolingo teaches "necesito un carro / coche" for I need a car.

VasyaPetya
11-04-21, 07:48
Everything went well with her. I can recommend her. She agreed for 30 k BBBJ and CFS.
You telling me they're sucking and fucking you for $7.90 US? That's cheaper than a mcdonalds meal LOL.

Huacho
11-04-21, 09:42
Interesting. Duolingo teaches "necesito un carro / coche" for I need a car.Nope. You only use the indefinite article if the noun is modified by an adjective. 'Necesito coche' = I need a car. But 'necesito un coche diferente' = I need a different car. Also note the difference between 'necesito un nuevo coche' and 'necesito un coche nuevo. ' In the first case, you are just saying you need a different car, one that is new to you. In the second case, you are saying you need a brand new car.

Surfer500
11-04-21, 12:43
Are the chicas standing in the Metro entrance area also hookers? IT seems like they are, because they Look like and I think I saw also punters Talking to them.

Does someone knows something about the girls at the metro entrance parque berrio?.Yes they are hookers, and their angle is to hopefully snag a guy before they walk a block to ground zero.

And there are some pretty ones on the steps leading up to the Metro.

And for your next questions that will be coming.

Yes, lots of the girls selling coffee are available, not to mention all of the girls selling candy.

Your now getting below the tip of the iceberg as to what is to be had in Centro.

ElPostino
11-04-21, 15:01
I am in Medellin and looking to buy generic Viagra and Cialis. Could someone please suggest what brand generic should I ask for? I am sure there are fake ones which I got before and disappointed me at right time. Just do not want to go through same failure at right time. TIA.

JustTK
11-04-21, 15:58
You telling me they're sucking and fucking you for $7.90 US? That's cheaper than a mcdonalds meal LOL.Not in Colombia. Double Big Mac combo is 24 k. So the girl can earn her 30 k, then have lunch at McDs and still have change for a bus home.

Surfer500
11-04-21, 17:25
Not in Colombia. Double Big Mac combo is 24 k. So the girl can earn her 30 k, then have lunch at McDs and still have change for a bus home.This is the heart of the problem, when guy's find out how cheap it is to get fucked and sucked in Medellin at 30 K, plus 7 K for the room, for a total of 37 K, which is less than $ 10 USD they find it hard to believe.

Even when the Pandemic ends, or when SEA fully opens back up, a lot of guys who have come here recently for the first time won't be in such a hurry to go back to SEA.

Instead of what used to be primarily gringo's coming to MDE prior to the Pandemic, we now have a lot of guys coming from Europe besides all the SEA guys from around the World.

Fortunately there's been a steady stream of Venezuelans so supply has been high to offset the increased demand. Centro has literally been taken over by the Venezuelans and most Colombians despise them.

I can remember when there were no Venezuelans, and have watched the changes over the years.

Probably the very best and cheapest mongering to be had in Medellin was in the earlier part of the year upon the re-opening of the Country.

So many new Venezuelans had arrived, with no newbie Colombian mongers, so supply was high, and the locals and few foreigners around where having a field day.

The landscape has changed, yet Centro still is, and will always be primarily a locals mongering venue, versus a foreigners mongering destination like Sosua.

A bygone era I suppose, but change is inevitable, in this case not for the good in my opinion, but it is what it is.

JustTK
11-04-21, 17:59
I am in Medellin and looking to buy generic Viagra and Cialis. Could someone please suggest what brand generic should I ask for? I am sure there are fake ones which I got before and disappointed me at right time. Just do not want to go through same failure at right time. TIA.I asnwered this a coupla days ago -.

"Not sure, but you can buy 2 pills of Sildenafil 100 MG for 7. 500 from pharmacies in El Centro. It works just as well for me, and a fraction of the price. I only use half each time. ".

JustTK
11-04-21, 18:03
This is the heart of the problem, when guy's find out how cheap it is to get fucked and sucked in Medellin at 30 K, plus 7 K for the room, for a total of 37 K, which is less than $ 10 USD they find it hard to believe.Its actually no different in Ecuador or Panama. It just shows attitude to sex, I believe. Sex is natural and easy and no big deal in many cultures. So why should it cost an arm and a leg just bcos it is a taboo subject or used as a leverage tool in other cultures?!

Fun Luvr
11-04-21, 19:48
I am in Medellin and looking to buy generic Viagra and Cialis. Could someone please suggest what brand generic should I ask for? I am sure there are fake ones which I got before and disappointed me at right time. Just do not want to go through same failure at right time. TIA.I have used Genfar and Vigradina sildenafilo (generic Viagra). They both work for me, but I think the Vigradina works better. Cialia has bad side effects on me.

Black Page
11-04-21, 20:14
I am in Medellin and looking to buy generic Viagra and Cialis. Could someone please suggest what brand generic should I ask for? I am sure there are fake ones which I got before and disappointed me at right time. Just do not want to go through same failure at right time. TIA.Go for Genfar or MK and you will never be wrong. Two major pharma industries of Colombia. Other smaller brands... no idea, but if I buy a drug I must be sure of the quality, that is the actual dosage and excipients.

Chris H
11-04-21, 20:36
Where is this New Life place? The address given on Google is not the correct address, Carrea 49 53-21, that address does not exist. Any photos or a real address will help big time. Is the place even really called New Life??

CuriousFun
11-04-21, 21:03
I have a place set. Flights set. I'm looking forward to coming to town. I don't have any real plans. Some museums. Some women. Some clubs. I'll be staying in the Poblado area. I'm a little worried about find a SIM card and getting access to apps. I'm sure I'll figure it out. Anyhow, thanks for all the info you all have put into the board.

I am looking for some food spots. Must sees while in town. Some club ideas. Other than Gusto, which I plan on checking out.

My Spanish is decent.I learned last time that not all Claro stores can set you up with a new SIM card, but the one in Santa fe mall was able to.

Paulie97
11-04-21, 21:14
Where is this New Life place? The address given on Google is not the correct address, Carrea 49 53-21, that address does not exist. Any photos or a real address will help big time. Is the place even really called New Life??You needed to scroll down a little more. There's also a warehouse called New Life.

Calle 56 (Bolivia) # 43-39, bright blue door.

Wolf662
11-04-21, 21:37
Where is this New Life place? The address given on Google is not the correct address, Carrea 49 53-21, that address does not exist. Any photos or a real address will help big time. Is the place even really called New Life??It's Calle 56-43-39.

Was behind the blue door last time I was there.

Husker Dude
11-04-21, 22:19
Where is this New Life place? The address given on Google is not the correct address, Carrea 49 53-21, that address does not exist. Any photos or a real address will help big time. Is the place even really called New Life??Calle 56 43-39, it's in the maps section Medellin.

Mojo Bandit
11-04-21, 22:47
After November 16, the government may require travelers and citizens to have the vaccination card for face-to-face events, bars, cinemas, churches, amusement parks, and discos.

Is this old news for you guys with boots on the ground there? I have not been following the thread diligently. The article definitely states this applies to everyone but goes into some details regarding international visitors to Medellin.

"For international travelers and Colombians vaccinated overseas, the President said, "The card that the person has can be verified and can be included in the electronic system. We urge them to regularize their situation by asking IPS to certify their vaccine so that they have their electronic card ".

Therefore, overseas travelers may require electronic proof of their vaccination to enter many indoor and outdoor activities in Colombia.

I personaly do not know what "IPS" is.

https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/colombia-and-other-countries-require-mandatory-vaccination-cards/67792

https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-launching-mandatory-vaccine-passport-for-all-public-areas/

Silver Turtle
11-04-21, 22:47
I am not sure. A majority of Colombian girls there have moved to Poblado already. Most of the girls are Venezuelans.


This is the heart of the problem, when guy's find out how cheap it is to get fucked and sucked in Medellin at 30 K, plus 7 K for the room, for a total of 37 K, which is less than $ 10 USD they find it hard to believe.

Even when the Pandemic ends, or when SEA fully opens back up, a lot of guys who have come here recently for the first time won't be in such a hurry to go back to SEA.

Instead of what used to be primarily gringo's coming to MDE prior to the Pandemic, we now have a lot of guys coming from Europe besides all the SEA guys from around the World.

Fortunately there's been a steady stream of Venezuelans so supply has been high to offset the increased demand. Centro has literally been taken over by the Venezuelans and most Colombians despise them.

I can remember when there were no Venezuelans, and have watched the changes over the years.

Probably the very best and cheapest mongering to be had in Medellin was in the earlier part of the year upon the re-opening of the Country.

JustTK
11-04-21, 23:31
After November 16, the government may require travelers and citizens to have the vaccination card for face-to-face events, bars, cinemas, churches, amusement parks, and discos.
Wow, that is the first I have heard of it. Will be glad to be leaving if that comes in. Though I really doubt they could or would enforce it in most places. And I expect there would be big protests and more deaths.

Doesn't really makes sense to me either, since the virus is already well under control here. Seems nothing else is needed. But then, nothing makes much sense to me anymore. I will be glad to be checking out of this world soon. Hehe.

Combo
11-05-21, 00:06
Not in Colombia. Double Big Mac combo is 24 k. So the girl can earn her 30 k, then have lunch at McDs and still have change for a bus home.True. Things are generally very cheap in Colombia, but not at McDonalds. I don't understand how McDonalds always seems to have a crowd given how expensive it is for Colombians.

DzikaBomba
11-05-21, 00:50
Today After my Pablo Tour (its not Worth it, I'm a few years too late) I took one from the metro Stairs at Parque berrio.

19 year Old Colombian with big natural boobs.

30 k BBBJ CFS.

BJ Was soso. But her big boobs with long nipples were beautiful.

Fucked her in mish and finished playing with her boobs.

I asked for a picture from her nice boobs.

I offered 5 k but She wanted 10 k tip.

End of the Session without Foto.

Later I fucked the one with Orange dyed hair which I fucked a few days ago and again Everything fine for 30 k.

Today I Was in centro until 7 pm and it was nice.

Tomorrow After my next Tour I come again.

Surfer500
11-05-21, 01:39
After November 16, the government may require travelers and citizens to have the vaccination card for face-to-face events, bars, cinemas, churches, amusement parks, and discos.

Is this old news for you guys with boots on the ground there? I have not been following the thread diligently. The article definitely states this applies to everyone but goes into some details regarding international visitors to Medellin.

"For international travelers and Colombians vaccinated overseas, the President said, "The card that the person has can be verified and can be included in the electronic system. We urge them to regularize their situation by asking IPS to certify their vaccine so that they have their electronic card ".

Therefore, overseas travelers may require electronic proof of their vaccination to enter many indoor and outdoor activities in Colombia.

I personaly do not know what "IPS" is.I don't think it's going to be an issue for vaccinated foreign travellers, as I believe a copy of your Passport and vaccination card will suffice for entry.

I am curious how the Colombian government is going to be able to electronically verify foreigners being vaccinated until there is a system put in place by WHO, like for the Yellow Fever Shot worldwide.

I'm sure it's on the horizon.

Lefeu
11-05-21, 01:55
Nope. You only use the indefinite article if the noun is modified by an adjective...Thanks for the Spanish lesson!

Surfer500
11-05-21, 02:02
Today After my Pablo Tour (its not Worth it, I'm a few years too late) I took one from the metro Stairs at Parque berrio.

19 year Old Colombian with big natural boobs.

30 k BBBJ CFS.

BJ Was soso. But her big boobs with long nipples were beautiful.

Fucked her in mish and finished playing with her boobs.

I asked for a picture from her nice boobs.

I offered 5 k but She wanted 10 k tip.

End of the Session without Foto..Seems like you like the dyed hair girls, maybe a repeat with the red dyed hair one is in order with a cream pie finish! LOL.

Now that you have done a Metro Station stairwell girl, it's time to broaden your horizons!

Start checking out all the girls selling coffee. Lots will go arriba, If you see one you like, buy a coffee from her.

Chit chat with her, ask her if she offers anything else besides coffee. Some of these girls are lucky to make 20 K for a days work, but if offered 30 K for an hours work some will jump on it.

But not all of them will, so you have to finesse how you bring things up as to not offend them.

If done properly, they won't take your advances as though you assumed they were a hoe.

And after you've done a coffee girl, will move on to the candy girls. LOL.

CuriousMind123
11-05-21, 02:14
After November 16, the government may require travelers and citizens to have the vaccination card for face-to-face events, bars, cinemas, churches, amusement parks, and discos.

Is this old news for you guys with boots on the ground there? I have not been following the thread diligently. The article definitely states this applies to everyone but goes into some details regarding international visitors to Medellin.

"For international travelers and Colombians vaccinated overseas, the President said, "The card that the person has can be verified and can be included in the electronic system. We urge them to regularize their situation by asking IPS to certify their vaccine so that they have their electronic card ".

Therefore, overseas travelers may require electronic proof of their vaccination to enter many indoor and outdoor activities in Colombia.

I personaly do not know what "IPS" is.This isn't just for Medellin but the whole country. How are you guys going to deal with it?

JohnnyWalker55
11-05-21, 03:26
After November 16, the government may require travelers and citizens to have the vaccination card for face-to-face events, bars, cinemas, churches, amusement parks, and discos.

Is this old news for you guys with boots on the ground there? I have not been following the thread diligently. The article definitely states this applies to everyone but goes into some details regarding international visitors to Medellin.

"For international travelers and Colombians vaccinated overseas, the President said, "The card that the person has can be verified and can be included in the electronic system. We urge them to regularize their situation by asking IPS to certify their vaccine so that they have their electronic card ".

Therefore, overseas travelers may require electronic proof of their vaccination to enter many indoor and outdoor activities in Colombia.

I personaly do not know what "IPS" is.

https://aldianews.com/articles/culture/health/colombia-and-other-countries-require-mandatory-vaccination-cards/67792

https://www.traveloffpath.com/colombia-launching-mandatory-vaccine-passport-for-all-public-areas/Just hilarious, not going to bring up the obvious overreach of government when covid is basically non existent in Colombia right now as that's for the stupid shit thread, but I look forward to buying a knock off vaxx card in prado.

I'm assuming the only place it'll be enforced are paces like hooters in poblado LOL.

Centro again today but not early enough for girls to be drinking, so I stayed more by the entrance / in front of the museum. Snagged a candy girl, but she was the opposite of charming. Been here a month from vennie. I think she was on glue, not sure. 19 yo skinny with fat ass ok face.

She begged for 2 k to buy a drink, I said ill give you a lot more than that for a rato, she said 40 k, I laughed, I said 30 k and I pay room, tip if good service. In the room total GFE, legs wrapped around in mish, the works.

Gave her 5 k after, as getting a nut with the first girl is always impressive.

As surfer states frequently, the pros are getting very seasoned. Saw probably 8 gringos in 2 hours, one of the girls behind the church was like "no hago besos, todo con preservativo" . Fuck outtta here with all these rules hhahaha.

For centro the MO right now are girls who have been drinking / candy coffee girls. The pros along the walkway and behind the church are all business now with the influx of foreigners.

JjBee62
11-05-21, 04:48
True. Things are generally very cheap in Colombia, but not at McDonalds. I don't understand how McDonalds always seems to have a crowd given how expensive it is for Colombians.The same way there were huge crowds at Starbucks when they first opened in Colombia.

I remember when the first IlIn-and-Out burger place opened in San Diego, in LA Mesa. The line of cars stretched for 2 blocks.

VasyaPetya
11-05-21, 06:38
Not in Colombia. Double Big Mac combo is 24 k. So the girl can earn her 30 k, then have lunch at McDs and still have change for a bus home.Lmao they're getting good deals then.

World Travel 69
11-05-21, 14:40
Carrera 58-64 is a market. So please check the address again. I would say 58-68?


Idk if anyone has tried to go to casa Cuba lately, as the location on the map hasn't updated. So you see casa Cuba. On carr 47 calle 59. It moved.

So keep walking down calle 59 towards carr 48, take a left downhill on carr 48.

Carr 48 -58-64-- to the right of this building is a giant parking garage thing. Can't miss it walk in and go past the security, you will see an outdoor staircase to your left. Walk up, that is the new casa Cuba.

Simply the best, the best. Sebastian the bro who runs the place knows how to pick his girls. Always BBBJ and ymmv on DFK.

I've yet to see a gringo here but I've exhausted my presence at this casa LMAO so it's all yours.

JohnnyWalker55
11-05-21, 15:47
Do you mean those steps in the back?

Someone else asked for prices.

Thanks.

Yes I mean to the right of this address.: carr 48-#58-64 It is inside this picture provided by sodomizerher lol, you go in the parking garage and pass the security booth and the stairs are to the left.

45 k 30 min 70 k HR.

JustTK
11-05-21, 15:47
Carrera 58-64 is a market. So please check the address again. I would say 58-68?Are you sure you understand the address? "Carrera 58-64" - is not what he wrote.

Balimassage
11-05-21, 17:16
I am in Medellin and looking to buy generic Viagra and Cialis. Could someone please suggest what brand generic should I ask for? I am sure there are fake ones which I got before and disappointed me at right time. Just do not want to go through same failure at right time. TIA.You can buy these pills on Rappi. The pharmacies on Rappi are the most reputable and the brands they sell are legit. You can use Rappi to check the prices and go buy at the store too if you like.

JohnnyWalker55
11-05-21, 17:45
*not sure if it is against the rules to review chicas, remove if so LOL.

Right in front of plaza san ignacio, too lazy to go to check the map but it's on the same calle as the tranvia.

I recently said it was a bottom tier casa based on past experiences, but I went with all 11-12 girls this week so I figured ID save the mongers some time. Pretty good place worth checking out.

Mamasan (not sure male version of word?) is a bro. Totally chill guy.

Facilities are good, big rooms, but cold shower, good lobby area with sports on tv and beer.

If you want a slim paisa: isabella or valeria. Both very GFE and classic paisa look, cute, skinny and nice ass.

If you want a thick paisa: vanessa. Like 5 ft 130 but not fat, curvy. Tight, great GFE but asked for propina at the end, a turn off. . (tightest girl).

Black girl: helen. Slim figure and very tight. GFE and pleasant girl. She's costea I think.

Venny: dulce. Tan thick girl, tight with good curves. Cute face. Pleasant.

Only bad experience was karen, black hair skinny paisa, maybe chemistry was off not sure but felt cold and she took my hand off her pussy during foreplay. Mood killer. Couldn't finish.

rest of girls weren't memorable, particulary good or bad.

50 k 30 min 80 k hour.

Cuba and Zandalay are still top tier (get to zandalay early as there are lots of customers there.).

Surfer500
11-05-21, 17:49
For centro the MO right now are girls who have been drinking / candy coffee girls. The pros along the walkway and behind the church are all business now with the influx of foreigners.You left out two other categories of girls that guy's might consider trying, but perhaps only the seasoned street rats will.

The first category are the girls that get high on weed, and given their altered state, can be okay, and I've done some.

Another category, which I tried many years ago, are the glue sniffers.

Typically they have a stench to them, similar to a heavy smoker, but instead of nicotine, it's pegamente and stinks and the odor seethes thru their pores, especially those that inhale constantly.

For the new members on this board, they are called Sacaleros, and typically they have little black bags which they squeeze the glue into and inhale. You can't miss them.

About five years ago they had a specific area at ground zero they would hang at, and this was before the Venezuelans arrived, and the area was along side the Museum in the walkway to the backside street. This used to be called "Sacalero Row", and there were some hotties there. And I did a few, as I couldn't resist trying them, but no more. I hope I don't loose any of my whiskers for not partaking in them recently.

Most of them are very thin / skinny, versus fat, and given that there brains are fried, and they are like zombies, they will do anything because they are so out of it.

I don't recommend guys do them, but a friend of mine did one recently, said there was no stench to her, supposedly because she was a part time sniffer, and anything went with her.

DoomBringer321
11-05-21, 18:00
It's what it's.

https://www.noticiasrcn.com/colombia/balacera-en-medellin-video-del-enfrentamiento-entre-hombres-y-policia-393171?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Instagram%23Echobox%3D1636059247

Wolf662
11-05-21, 20:25
True. Things are generally very cheap in Colombia, but not at McDonalds. I don't understand how McDonalds always seems to have a crowd given how expensive it is for Colombians.Seemed pretty cheap to me. 8,900 cop for chicken, rice & beans, French fries, salad and drink not too bad.

CageMonkey
11-05-21, 22:57
I have done a lot of research finding guest friendly accommodations for an over two month stay in Medellin. I wanted to get away from San Peters or anything too close to there because of the noise and I wanted to be able to host three girls should things work out. I also wanted to stay in both El Poblado and Laureles. Here are some of my findings, some of which will have to be verified once I am there at the very end of December.

Booking.com is a good resource to find guest friendly hotels and sometimes apartments. This is because you they show questions from people wanting to book the hotel and the hotel's answer. So, in hotels near Parque Lleras you see many questions if the hotel is visitor friendly and from that learn their policy, or at least, what it was at the time of the question. Bookings apartment selection is very limited compared to Airbnb, a bit more expensive, and for only 30 days, but. Most are fully refundable even if cancelled a week before the booking and they also have some accommodations that are not on Airbnb. I used them for my Rio trip a few years ago and thought I had a good value. There is also some overlap between airbnb and Booking so I have been able to use that to determine an Airbnb was not visitor friendly without having to question the host. With Airbnb besides the house rules be sure to read the descriptions for sometimes in there and not in the rules they will indicated if they are visitor friendly or not. If you find a visitor friendly place but it's not suitable, click on the host name and see what else they have which might work.

Now, as for apartments in the Parque Lleras area you will note that the visitor friendly market seems be dominated by two companies, Liv Realty and Problado Rentals. There are also some other large players, but they tend not to be as guest friendly.

Liv Realty apartments tends to be a bit away from the noise, nicely decorated (they claim to be professionally decorated, and I believe them), and reasonably priced. , if barely. All have fast internet, large flat screens. And mostly all good reviews. They currently have 104 listing on Airbnb all over Medellin. I chose one in El Problado on Carrera 43 between Calle 10 and 10 A. There will be some street noise but no bars or discos close by, and no complaints about noise from reviews.

Now, Poblado Rentals is a whole different matter. They cater to the party crowd. Their apartments mostly look the same. While they actually have some nicer ones, most are, well, for me for some unknown reason, the phase "Post Stalin Reconstruction" pops into my brain when I look at the decorations. They tend to in dark brown walls, tasteless bad art, black heavy furniture, and weird shaped coffee tables. I suspect that the furniture is an example of form follows function for the function is to survive heavy, drunk, partying gringos with girls and doing drugs in the early morning hours next to yet more gringos, drunk, drugged. Etc and the evitable interactions between the two. They almost all have hot tubs and most of the time, the hot tubs don't really fit that well into the place.

The issue with Poblado Rentals is that most are near loud areas without sound proofing near as I can tell. They also allow their guests to party all night and if you are next to them in the building well good luck getting to sleep and they are not noted for having thick walls. Last, myself and as noted in these forums by other ISG members and on the reviews, interaction with the management of these apartments can be at times. Unpleasant. My experience with them, even when I found some suitable apartments, was such to never rent from them. They are also I believe are deceptive. With Liv Realty, they list all their apartments they manage on Airbnb. Poblado Rentals has many apartments on Airbnb, maybe all but they are using different hosts names and sometimes it's hard on some of the nicer apartments, to determine if it is Poblado Rentals or not at first glance. I think they do this so they can have the same apartment on Bookings, Airbnd, Vrbo, etc. You can go to their website Poblado Rentals to see what they manage and use that to determine if is one of theirs or not. Their reviews are more mixed than Liv, but overall, if you know what you are getting into, then probably they will fine.

One thing I have noted is that Liv apartments are heavily booked while El Poblado not nearly so much. Indeed I waited too long and twice was not able to book my first choice with Liv after waiting just a few hours too long. One trick I learned was on Airbnb, you can click on the host name, see all apartments they have without specific dates so you can check each apartment and in my case, rented one for 8 days and another for 55 days and in this way, have nice visitor friendly rental from Liv all during my stay.

Here are some other visitor friendly accommodations confirmed via asking the host about visitor access but you should check yourself. All are I believe in more or less family type buildings, so if you are going to party and / or have lots of girls coming and going please don't choose these and ruin it for the rest of us, more discrete mongers. Some of the hosts have more than one rental, so that might also be used to find visitor friendly accommodations.

El Poblado:

"Great Apartment For Digital Nomads" Hosted by Angie. https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/52547620?location=medelin&translate_ugc=false&federated_search_id=721c4e07-2c87-4170-9678-252dd944f11c&source_impression_id=p3_1636147464_vLhuau0dEgqnGNPc&guests=1&adults=1:text=Great%20Apartment%20For%20Digital%20Nomads".

Laureles:

Apartamento con jacuzzi Laureles 1 Hosted by Mario: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/52979171?source_impression_id=p3_1636147553_aaM1lKVKlYXmvcXw&guests=1&adults=1.

Seven levels Hosted by Ingris https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/52979171?source_impression_id=p3_1636147553_aaM1lKVKlYXmvcXw&guests=1&adults=1.

Make sure you read the description and house rules. .

Incredible 2 bed apt with nice views laureles Hosted by Juliana https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/42071154?source_impression_id=p3_1636147802_dmkvaFH8GcEajAWy&guests=1&adults=1.

Maybe some of the best views, top floor with East and West balconies but uncomfortable furniture.

I hope you find the above information helpful. All is reasonably accurate I believe at this time.

CageMonkey.

JjBee62
11-06-21, 00:04
You left out two other categories of girls that guy's might consider trying, but perhaps only the seasoned street rats will.

The first category are the girls that get high on weed, and given their altered state, can be okay, and I've done some.

Another category, which I tried many years ago, are the glue sniffers.

Typically they have a stench to them, similar to a heavy smoker, but instead of nicotine, it's pegamente and stinks and the odor seethes thru their pores, especially those that inhale constantly.

For the new members on this board, they are called Sacaleros, and typically they have little black bags which they squeeze the glue into and inhale. You can't miss them.

About five years ago they had a specific area at ground zero they would hang at, and this was before the Venezuelans arrived, and the area was along side the Museum in the walkway to the backside street. This used to be called "Sacalero Row", and there were some hotties there. And I did a few, as I couldn't resist trying them, but no more. I hope I don't loose any of my whiskers for not partaking in them recently.

Most of them are very thin / skinny, versus fat, and given that there brains are fried, and they are like zombies, they will do anything because they are so out of it..It's been awhile, but I used to see them on the south and east sides of the big parking lot across the street from the museum.

Fun Luvr
11-06-21, 02:05
Mamasan (not sure male version of word?) is a bro. Totally chill guy.Papasan is the male version.

Balimassage
11-06-21, 05:40
Idk if anyone has tried to go to casa Cuba lately, as the location on the map hasnt updated. So you see casa Cuba. On carr 47 calle 59. It moved.

So keep walking down calle 59 towards carr 48, take a left downhill on carr 48.

Carr 48 -58-64-- to the right of this building is a giant parking garage thing. Can't miss it walk in and go past the security, you will see an outdoor staircase to your left. Walk up, that is the new casa Cuba.

Simply the best, the best. Sebastian the bro who runs the place knows how to pick his girls. Always BBBJ and ymmv on DFK.

I've yet to see a gringo here but I've exhausted my presence at this casa LMAO so it's all yours.Stopped there today, enjoyed a session. Place was jam packed at 330 on a Friday afternoon, I only got to see 3 of the chicks in presentation, hope to get back to see the rest. I think he's got 7-10.

The address you list is correct. The photo someone else posted is of the place next door.

"Cuba" is inside of the love hotel car park, and as JW said, head thru the big purple painted car park, take the first stairs up on the left. Quite nice rooms even got some hot water which was unbelievable!

I hadn't been to Cuba before but Sebastian said he's been around for 18 years, surprised I haven't managed to pass thru his doors (the location has changed a lot) previously as I make a point to hit most places.

Of course, as I'm walking around after, someone hands me a flyer. I send it a whatsapp, and of course, its The Cuba. Apparently Fate had it for me to find them today. +573194592464.45/65 hh / HR. Cheers.

Balimassage
11-06-21, 05:50
YMMV but Centro was a bust this October overall. Some of my observations.

1. It feels more dangerous this time around, especially after dark. More weirdos who I feel are are trying to approach me, especially around the less lit areas. Probably because more foreigners attract more thieves.
El Centro is dangerous after dark. Always has, always will. It's not because you're a foreigner, its because you're there and you shouldn't be. There's a reason its empty after dark of locals, they're not stupid, they leave. Get an Uber pickup where you're at, and get out.

For the newbies: El Centro can be dangerous at any time of day. Don't take your flashy shit, don't pull your phone out looking at the map on the corner ("Hellooooo I'm LOST and I have a $1000 phone. ! and stay low key. El Centro shouldn't be a place you have any problems but you need to have a lot of common sense. If you don't (and if you think being in el Centro after dark is a good idea, I politely question your common sense), you might be better off staying away as that cheap pussy might end up costing you a lot more from silly mistakes.

Cheers, BM.

Huacho
11-06-21, 06:37
For the new members on this board, they are called Sacaleros, Well, if they're dudes they would be called sacaleros. I'm hoping you prefer sacaler as. Sorry. You keep posting about sacaleros but I don't think you are queer.

LoveItHere69
11-06-21, 06:49
I am comparing street area to street area of Pattaya, Thailand, Angeles City, Philippines. Not really fair in that the other two countries street girl area is mostly foreigners with few locals versus Colombia which is almost all locals. Now this does not happen all the time but it feels like it when I compare it to my visits to the Thailand or Philippines. Violence. It is like never ending here.

Last night at 8:00 pm two guys get into a fight at the corner of the Botero church. Police grab one guy but not the other who of course magically gets away. The guy they capture it seems was stabbed or beat in the head. Not much blood but he soon lays down, loses consciousness, carried to the police truck, and taken to the hospital.

Last Sunday at 1:00 in the afternoon on the corner diagonal from the back of the museum where the bars start. There is a man and woman in their late 50's or early 60's drunk fighting. They wrestle to the ground. She is trying to kick him in the face. At first it was funny because the whole thing is like watching a replay MMA fight in slow motion. He gets away and backs up 3 meters and pulls a knife. Then another guy walks him across the street and he leaves. Unreal!

Same day a street girl standing in front of one of the statues near the corner of the statue. Her loser boyfriend is on the side of the statue who yanks her hair where her head hit or nearly hit the statue.

Later that same day another street girl and loser boyfriend are fighting and she bites his chest to get away.

Two weeks ago two girls are fighting. I have seen enough hair pulling on other girlie fights so ignore it. Minute later I look and the girl on the bottom is bleeding. The top girl was punching, not pulling hair, and gave her a bloody nose. Police come but let the both girls go 3 minutes later.

Even when these people talk they get in each others faces pointing fingers and waving their arms around. Puts me in attack mode when they are doing this next to me. Not use to it and do not like it. It is not relaxing to be around. God knows what all happens the hours between 9 pm to 2 am when they are all nice and drunk. Oops reminds me of a time last year I was out at only 8:30 pm behind the church at the bars. Some guy got hit in the head with a bottle and lost a lot of blood. There was a puddle equal to the size of a basketball on the ground and plenty on his shirt. Not sure how he did not pass out.

Colombia is cheap all around. But the food sucks. Everything is so far away from each other. The other two countries the street girls, strip bars, discos, good restaurants, hotels, and mall are all walking distance to each other. Here everything is so far away from each other that a taxi is required.

Also, tired of everyone trying to rip me off. This time International Smiles. My quote was $2900 three months ago. It just jumped to $10,500 with a discount that came to $8100 because I have a special situation which is true but not that unique of a problem. Like they could not have contacted me several months ago as soon as they knew? Nope. It will take a month to do the work and they know I leave in a month. They put me in a time crunch thinking I will cave. No, especially when I get pissed off. I can return in February and have someone else do the work or get it done in another country. They do not like giving out receipts or giving estimates by email or written on paper. Very professional and want to send by Whatsapp! Tired of feeling financially raped.

So when Asia opens up I will be gone. I think I will visit Colombia for 6 months every two years. This is a place for me to visit but not retire. Very little peace of mind here. Can not wait until I can return to Asia and try some new countries there.

HopOnPartyBus
11-06-21, 13:25
A new hotel with 2 bars and 20 rooms is opening in late Nov in Poblado, large 16 person outdoor Jacuzzi can be rented for parties as well as rooms by the hour, I was told the the bars will have a large selection of independent working girls, something to look out for in the coming weeks, located between calle 10 and calle 10 a 1 block down from avenida Poblado.

DzikaBomba
11-06-21, 13:37
Yes I mean to the right of this address.: carr 48-#58-64 It is inside this picture provided by sodomizerher lol, you go in the parking garage and pass the security booth and the stairs are to the left.

45 k 30 min 70 k HR.I would really like to go to this place as I'm getting a bit tired of centro.

But I can't find it.

I think I'm too stupid to read the Address right.

Can please someone help with a link, So that I can find it?

Surfer500
11-06-21, 14:48
So when Asia opens up I will be gone. I think I will visit Colombia for 6 months every two years. This is a place for me to visit but not retire. Very little peace of mind here. Can not wait until I can return to Asia and try some new countries there.I agree the violence is bad in Colombia, and it always has been, but it goes with the territory.

Thailand has opened back up, and will see how it goes in the next few months.

Hopefully well, so all the newcomer SEA guys who have shown up in Medellin can leave and don't come back because I consider a lot of them, and other newbies in the last six months, not you, to have kinda spoiled Centro.

Nothing personal against the SEA guys, as I like SEA as well, but I just feel as though my turf has been shit on over the last six months. And I know there are others as well.

Balboa
11-06-21, 14:58
I am comparing street area to street area of Pattaya, Thailand, Angeles City, Philippines. Not really fair in that the other two countries street girl area is mostly foreigners with few locals versus Colombia which is almost all locals. Now this does not happen all the time but it feels like it when I compare it to my visits to the Thailand or Philippines. Violence. It is like never ending here.

Colombia is cheap all around. But the food sucks. Everything is so far away from each other. The other two countries the street girls, strip bars, discos, good restaurants, hotels, and mall are all walking distance to each other. Here everything is so far away from each other that a taxi is required.

Also, tired of everyone trying to rip me off. This time International Smiles. My quote was $2900 three months ago. It just jumped to $10,500 with a discount that came to $8100 because I have a special situation which is true but not that unique of a problem. Like they could not have contacted me several months ago as soon as they knew? Nope. It will take a month to do the work and they know I leave in a month. They put me in a time crunch thinking I will cave. No, especially when I get pissed off. I can return in February and have someone else do the work or get it done in another country. They do not like giving out receipts or giving estimates by email or written on paper. Very professional and want to send by Whatsapp! Tired of feeling financially raped.

So when Asia opens up I will be gone. I think I will visit Colombia for 6 months every two years. This is a place for me to visit but not retire. Very little peace of mind here. Can not wait until I can return to Asia and try some new countries there.You may need to change your name here on the ISG as well. Lol. 😅

JjBee62
11-06-21, 15:01
I would really like to go to this place as I'm getting a bit tired of centro.

But I can't find it.

I think I'm too stupid to read the Address right.

Can please someone help with a link, So that I can find it?Pescadería Doris Bill, centro.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/d6s7SGvz83wXte7m6

That appears to be the place. It will at least get you to the parking garage.

Manizales911
11-06-21, 15:10
Well, if they're dudes they would be called sacaleros. I'm hoping you prefer sacaler as. Sorry. You keep posting about sacaleros but I don't think you are queer.I believe he was generalizing so then he was referring to both male and female, in that case he was correct in referring to them as sacalerOs.

Surfer500
11-06-21, 15:15
Well, if they're dudes they would be called sacaleros. I'm hoping you prefer sacaler as. Sorry. You keep posting about sacaleros but I don't think you are queer.Okay I get the humour in this. Yep, I went to EAFIT as well like Jbee2, yet I can't get things right either.

And good to know you don't think I'm a queer. I feel relieved about this. LOL.

All due respect, but seems like all your posts are about using 100% correct Spanish.

My guess is your a native Spanish speaker, where as most of the board members here are not.

Having Spanish speaking skills in Colombia is huge, yet this board is centered around finding and fucking women, and to that end, perfect Spanish is not necessary.

So with that being said, perhaps you can post something about your experiences in Colombia as far as finding and fucking women.

And don't get me wrong, everyone on this board, except the native Spanish speakers should welcome input on proper Spanish saying "dichos" in the context of what this board is about, versus Spanish textbook instruction having nothing to do with what this board is about.

JustTK
11-06-21, 15:17
Papasan is the male version.Popadom would be cuter.

Mr Enternational
11-06-21, 15:32
I believe he was generalizing so then he was referring to both male and female, in that case he was correct in referring to them as sacalerOs.Except that his post specifically mentioned girls several times and never said anything about males.

Nil Admirari
11-06-21, 15:36
I have done a lot of research finding guest friendly accommodations for an over two month stay in Medellin. I wanted to get away from San Peters or anything too close to there because of the noise and I wanted to be able to host three girls should things work out. I also wanted to stay in both El Poblado and Laureles. Here are some of my findings, some of which will have to be verified once I am there at the very end of December.
.Cage Monkey, thanks muchly for taking the time to consolidate and share experiences and findings from your search for Girl Friendly accommodations. As a regular peruser of the ISG Medellin thread, I enjoy reading BM posts on their El Centro dalliances and contretemps and Osteoknot's stream-of-conscious riffs on his Medillin escapades. That said, I log onto ISG primarily to glean information of every-day, practical use in my pursuit of Paisa pussy and one's overall enjoyment of life in the Ciudad de Eterna Primavera. (A shout out to other recent posters for adding Casa Cuba to my casa browsing list.).

One follow-up question. How to do the prices for the apartment complexes that you list compare with those of San Peter's for its larger, upper floor, better noise-insulated apartments? (If not mistaken, about $1,000 per month.).

JjBee62
11-06-21, 15:39
You may need to change your name here on the ISG as well. Lol. 😅I've always wondered about that. LOL.

DzikaBomba
11-06-21, 15:39
I agree the violence is bad in Colombia, and it always has been, but it goes with the territory.

Thailand has opened back up, and will see how it goes in the next few months.

Hopefully well, so all the newcomer SEA guys who have shown up in Medellin can leave and don't come back because I consider a lot of them, and other newbies in the last six months, not you, to have kinda spoiled Centro.

Nothing personal against the SEA guys, as I like SEA as well, but I just feel as though my turf has been shit on over the last six months. And I know there are others as well.Colombia is becoming more and more an interesting Country to travel to and will continue to do so, even when SEA opens back up.

People want to See New Things and Colombia is still a bit New and exotic so newbies will continue to come here also.

You Can not stop it or change it, its the Way it is.

I would come here also without SEA closing. The SEA closure made it only faster.

I will also travel to other countries and spoil These markets also LOL. No matter what happens in SEA.

And especially Thailand gets bored for many because its not what its used to be and people will Look out for New mongering Destinations.

JjBee62
11-06-21, 15:40
I believe he was generalizing so then he was referring to both male and female, in that case he was correct in referring to them as sacalerOs.Except he was talking about having sex with them, otherwise yes.

Knowledge
11-06-21, 16:42
So yeah, this is the place that used to be known as "Balcones de Cuba" that has been around for 15+ years that I know of. The Cuba in its name was a nod to its address and the balcones was a reference to the set up of the rooms overlooking a staircase if I remember correctly. I had not been to the old place in more than ten years. I used to lump it in with the place known as Barcelona because of their proximity to Prado and the generally older and thicker character of their staff. This was quite a few years ago so it's likely worth another look. Personally, I doubt I will visit anytime soon because I would have to pass by several other places like Amigas Sexxy, Zandaly, and of course Plaza Botero to get there. I look forward to reading about how others like it.


I would really like to go to this place as I'm getting a bit tired of centro.

But I can't find it.

I think I'm too stupid to read the Address right.

Can please someone help with a link, So that I can find it?

JustTK
11-06-21, 16:43
Having Spanish speaking skills in Colombia is huge, yet this board is centered around finding and fucking women, and to that end, perfect Spanish is not necessary.
.Not to mention, most Colombians don't speak perfect Spanish either, just like most English speakers don't speak perfect Englsih. The best is just to get out there and say what you can. You will improve with time and practice. Mostly you can get your point across without being perfect. And it can be a lot of fun muddling thru with a pleasant chica.

Osteoknot
11-06-21, 18:25
That's virile, not viral. Just drink shark sperm like me in that foto and you will never lack in sexual performance again, jajjaa.

Miss you guys but figure you prob don't want to hear about my escapades so much in the states here. I was going to start organizing for my return to Medellin as soon as I got back from my two favorite beaches (with my ex, who flew back to PA) in SC, Myrtle and Folly.

But I decided to drive down to FL in my Z instead. The weather here just turned cold. One of my favorite features about Medellin is the climate. I am going to aim for Atlantic City. I like the Seahorse motel where you step right out your door onto the sand and is old school, Florida, which I appreciate having been born there.

I am due to catch up with family who lives there. I keep hopscotching over them back and forth to MDE and after a few trips it seems like I could be avoiding them, so I will make the trip now.

I'll keep you posted about how "upgrading" my visa goes from this end, in case anyone else wants to give that a shot.

True Confessions, I paid two girls' rents this month in Medellin. I have a numbered, ranked line-up of girls that mainly differs from anything I have ever read here in that all the girls know their ranking, their number. They vye for position, Number One, Catgirl, never changes and that is key to her putting up with my escapades.

The top three or four are novias, and they get the most benefits. Rents are cheap and I can stay for as long as I want at either of those two places when I land in MDE, if I choose. One apartment is in Aurora, the other is Bello. In descending order my girls are ranked as novias, then come amigas, followed by chicas, then putas. The cut-off points between the categories vary a little, but generally by the time I am down to number ten, we are talking putas. The main reason I wrote this, is do not ever feel guilty on how you spend your money in MDE or anywhere for that matter. What you spend does not effect what others pay, period. Even if it did, it's no one else's business but your own.

Not that there have been many, but I don't respond directly to posts anymore here, nothing personal, that just time management for me. I believe I have answered everyone who has written me here in Private Messaging, but I am not checking in as often. I remain drug free and strong.

As always, Keep On Keepin' On!

P.S. I added a recent foto of Catgirl's camel toe, mi numero uno novia that I noticed at the last minute. Yes, I realize those animals, cats and camels, don't mix, jajaja. That foto is a zoom and crop, she did not originally send me a foto of just her crotch, jaja.