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AtlNightmare
01-25-22, 01:11
You are not in Medellin, right? Based on your reaction to her price, think about her reaction to you not in Medellin. The other member reported similar price also not in Medellin, that is easily two reported in a short time, it can easily be 100 men not ready to session contacting her. Based on this reason, I won't necessary write her off.You are right and thanks.
One Eyed Man
01-25-22, 03:56
Note that you will fairly often hear native speakers of Spanish say 'la problema' and one time in a shit hole called Clorinda there was a kid selling water in the street yelling 'La agua la agua la agua' (agua is a feminine noun but takes the masculine article because the initial -a is stressed). Yet another time I heard a chicano in Guatemala bragging about being bilingual and he then said 'la agua,' 'la problema,' and 'la DIA' (should have an accent over the eye) all in the same paragraph. My point is, just like native speakers of English say shit like 'if I was you' doesn't mean it's correct and as you learn Spanish you will hear a lot of bad grammar on the streets.Huacho, I really enjoy your detailed Spanish grammar lessons.
It's Italian, not Spanish, but I think most of you will understand. As Huacho mentioned, many words from the Greek end in "a," which makes them look feminine though their gender is masculine. One of my Italian teachers once said, "Tutti I problemi sono maschili. " (Singular: il problema; plural: I problemi).
Mr Enternational
01-25-22, 06:03
I am 30. I was honest with them about my language skills but told them half-truths of what I was looking for. Something I recommend for guys going this route is understand your assets and use them. I am never going to as interesting to them as a native speaker. But what I do have is money and a different attitude towards things which I think really helped my game. I was never really afraid to show that I had money because let's be honest there really isn't too much else a gringo can offer and a lot of them were OK with that.Great report man, but what type of attitude is this to have? If you are searching for one night stands and chicks to have sex with for money then of course you are right on target to use your assets. Afterall, that is what hookers are after.
But if you think that you will not be as interesting to a chick as a native speaker would be then you are wrong. I was 33 when I first started learning Spanish. I remember like yesterday my first trip to the Dominican Republic in 2005 and a chick on the street in Boca Chica asked me when I arrived. I had to ask my friend how to say yesterday in Spanish.
17 years later, I speak the language well and hardly take hookers because there are enough normal chicks that do find me interesting. If you believe in yourself and put in the effort then chicks that are not hookers will see you as having something to offer besides money.
Medellin is a place that can make any man happy, you just have to know what you likeCool. Very cool. I read every word.
Mojo Bandit
01-25-22, 09:01
Lucky Nuts Your mailbox is Full.
Actually I googled in English 'el Mar. Vs la Mar.'
Now I hope no one takes this as a complaint about the autocorrecting software, which is truly awesome, but periods and commas go inside quotation marks. Semi-colons and colons go outside quotation marks. I write correctly.Ah, I got that. I skipped the Spanish result.
Yes, your rating system might be different and include all that extra stuff but none of that matters to the rest of us because your not going to share her contact info unless you really know a monger on here, which I agree with seeing as what happened recently with Maria as an example. But the regular rating system based on strictly her looks is what matters to the rest of us. This board is literally full of guys bragging (I am not complaining keep the pics coming) or debating over various topics for the most part. So yah we all have to implore our own rating system when looking for chicas online through various sources because your system won't apply.
Just want to add this as I just randomly ran into it and it definitely explains all the rate changes and GPS attitude. Not that it matters as there is so much available but one should know when using seeking this is what you will encounter. Hopefully, she gets even more attention. In other words, seeking is not worth the price of admission for Colombia. If you already have it for other countries then it is a great extra source but Facebook is sufficient.I use a simple rating system which works spectacularly. First a point I think you were making. The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging. Beyond that use it serves almost no purpose.
My rating system is a nested boolean system. It starts with.
1. Do I want to fuck her? If the answer is yes:
2. Is she available for me to fuck? If yes:
3. Can we agree on a price?
That's it. I don't need to worry whether other people want to fuck her, or how much they would pay. It doesn't matter if someone would rate her a 9 and someone else would mark her as a 6. There's no crap about how well she'll perform, because I'll figure that out afterwards.
Occasionally, I'll modify that. I'll ask myself if something I know might want to fuck her. If I think the answer is yes, I'll send them her info.
But if you think that you will not be as interesting to a chick as a native speaker would be then you are wrong.Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.
Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.Very true what you and Mr. Entertainment brought up. Learning Spanish has become a top priority for me.
Silver Turtle
01-25-22, 18:17
I was in Veracruz / Botero area last month. There were a few Israeli, Spaniard, French and American guys hanging around together. They were drinking with Venezuelan working girls in the middle of promenade with no shirts on for hours every day. They were disrespectful and argumentative to locals and cops, and some of them were arrested and thrown into jail a few times. Locals hated them a lot, and some bars and hotels prohibited the Spaniard and Israeli guys from entering their places. I saw that other gringos stayed away from them.
Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.Money versus Spanish fluency for Medellin pussy access advantage.
My gut reaction was Spanish fluency wins by a margin.
Then my brain kicked in and said, "No, money. "
I don't know.
What I do know is that having both would be the ideal, jeje.
Ernest Hemingway wrote in English. Back to the subject at hand, what do all of you linguists talk about with girls, the latest reggaeton hits, the cost of their daily room rents in San Diego, how much you are willing to pay for a rato at that moment?
I cannot say for sure that the restaurants are playing on this or not but you might want to blame Ernest Hemingway (he had a second home in Cuba) for the restaurants calling themselves that, here is a quote from "The Old Man and the Sea" which was written in Cayo Blanco Cuba.
"he always thought of the sea as 'la Mar.' which is what people call her in Spanish when they love her. Sometimes those who love her say bad things of her but they are always said as though she were a woman. Some of the younger fishermen, those who used buoys as floats for their lines and had motorboats, bought when the shark livers had brought much money, spoke of her as 'el Mar' which is masculine. They spoke of her as a contestant or a place or even an enemy. But the old man always thought of her as feminine and as something that gave or withheld great favours, and if she did wild or wicked things it was because she could not help them. The moon affects her as it does a woman, he thought. "
AtlNightmare
01-25-22, 18:37
I use a simple rating system which works spectacularly. First a point I think you were making. The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging. Beyond that use it serves almost no purpose.
My rating system is a nested boolean system. It starts with.
1. Do I want to fuck her? If the answer is yes:
2. Is she available for me to fuck? If yes:
3. Can we agree on a price?
That's it. I don't need to worry whether other people want to fuck her, or how much they would pay. It doesn't matter if someone would rate her a 9 and someone else would mark her as a 6. There's no crap about how well she'll perform, because I'll figure that out afterwards.
Occasionally, I'll modify that. I'll ask myself if something I know might want to fuck her. If I think the answer is yes, I'll send them her info.That is spot on G. That is the real rating system don't give a damn what the next man think. My 8 is my 8 and nobody else's.
The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging.I don't think the default is automatically "bragging" but some need for self validation, without necessarily tacking on Super Ego. It's deep. It is part of the projection and self validation that is rampant on this Web site. Otherwise, pointless from where I sit, but hey, I don't think anyone else is getting harmed by it, so be it. Even when you find like-minded mongers, in theory you are creating more competition for yourself by using a rating system. Jajaja. Mongering is a group effort while being every man for himself at the same time. Yin and Yang.
AtlNightmare
01-25-22, 18:45
She wouldn't be asking for $5 taxi fare if she meant $250 usd.Valid point sir thanks.
AtlNightmare
01-25-22, 18:48
And it gets down to 20 degrees at night so be sure to bring a big down jacket. But seriously, any country that uses pesos makes it more complicated for the newbie gringo, because the $ sign is also used for pesos and in fact originated that way. Gringos don't face that issue with euro, yen, sterling, etc. Because the symbols are different. Then there is the height and weight thing. If a chica says she is 1,70 and 60 that doesn't mean she is 5 feet tall and weighs 170 pounds. That would be kinda fat to say the least. She means is 1,7 meters tall (between 5'6" and 5'7") and weighs 60 kilograms or 132 pounds. So get a bit familiar with the money, the temperature system, the measurement schemes, and so forth before you go.I appreciate that and will take all of that into account.
Yeah, it's not the difference between a native speaker and a non-native speaker they care about; they're just obviously not to into the whole translator thing. And the way to get to where you can speak good Spanish is to speak bad Spanish, any kind of Spanish. You don't need to be a 'native speaker.' But once you can hold a real conversation, doors and pussies will start to open up even if you don't have a lot of money to throw around.So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless.
Besides being able to converse with women which takes everything to a totally different level as you have stated, those who can speak some Spanish, can also avoid and diffuse awkward situations which a lot of guys find themselves in when relying on a translator.
I consider myself an intermediate Spanish speaker, I get all the tenses wrong, have problems pronouncing words, and am screwed up on masculine / feminine usage, yet understand probably at least four times more than I can say. As an example, I know the meaning of lots of words, and cannot at times pronounce them correctly, or even remember them, yet when I hear the word being used, I know the meaning of it.
I studied formally at EAFIT for a while, and then had a private tutor for a few months everyday, and it was an eye opener to the language.
Spanish in my opinion is a much harder language than English to learn, in Spanish you can have like four different words for the same thing versus one word in English.
And then you have the "subjunctive tense" which doesn't exist in English as far as I know.
So many rules / regulations on using Spanish as well.
I'm sure you can further elaborate on all this.
Just my two cents on this topic.
Spanish in my opinion is a much harder language than English to learn, in Spanish you can have like four different words for the same thing versus one word in English.
And then you have the "subjunctive tense" which doesn't exist in English as far as I know.
So many rules / regulations on using Spanish as well.So I really, really do not agree that Spanish is the harder language. There they're their. Rough doesn't rhyme rhyme with through and neither rhymes with bough. Tons of silent letters in English where in Spanish you only have one, and it's always silent (unless combined as ch-; 'ch' used to be a separate letter in Spanish, as did 'rr' but the authorities have decided that is no longer true). And then you have lead as in metal and lead as in follow. None of that in Spanish. You can show me a word in Spanish I've never seen before and I can pronounce it correctly. There's rules on what syllable is stressed, and they're quite clear and simple. I would say one thing that's harder about Spanish is the existence of the two past tenses, preterit and imperfect. There is just nothing like that in English. And I guess the masculine vs. Feminine thing. My neighbor is from Macedonia and he said Spanish was easier. My other neighbor said the same thing but she is a native speaker of French and acknowledged that helped.
Regarding the subjunctive in English, it definitely exists but its use is more limited. The most common use is for 'contrary to fact conditions' and that is why 'if I was you,' which you hear all the time, is flat out wrong It is impossible for you to be me, nor for me to be you. Therefore the subjunctive mood 'were' must be used. 'I would not do that if I were you. ' Another example of the subjunctive in English: 'It is necessary that he go to the store. ' Most native English speakers, though, would probably just say 'he needs to go to the store. ' The first sentence has a change of subject between the independent and dependent clauses and the second one does not, is the difference.
Somebody the other day asked me how I became completely fluent and how I could tell. Most people won't be able to do this but I spent six months without speaking any English at all. By then I was even dreaming in Spanish and that's how I knew. At the point I began that, I had Spanish I-IV at the community college (I later completed a bachelor's in Spanish), so I knew all the tenses but did not have a good grasp of the subjunctive (which is not a tense). The way I learned that was I first learned how to recognize it in speech (the terminal vowel changes, 'escriba' instead of 'escribe,' for example) when I heard it. Then, I asked myself why that person had used the subjunctive instead of the indicative. Same thing when I was reading the newspaper. I did that every day too and did not read in English any more than my job required.
I would say that becoming fluent in Spanish, which took me thirty years, was one of the two or three hardest things I have ever done. I have no inherent talent for languages at all.
MateoCast98
01-25-22, 23:50
Yes that's just my opinion.
And no I don't think there are 9-10's on fb.
I've seen both in real life and banged them both.
But I will say in the FB scene they are upper tier. But if they worked at la Isla they would struggle to get clients. And I don't even think la Isla has a lot of hot girls but there might be an occasional 8-9 there.
The cycle is once they hit 25 and they enhance their looks they'll transfer to the Gusto / La Isla scene.
Then when they run their course there they'll hit the Panama or Costa Rica scene.
Also realize they're many mongers on FB who prefer to have them early in their 18-21 days with that young flaca look. If that's your thing then these girls would be a 8. This is all subjective and just my opinion on the fb girls.Did you part with Scarlett? Or is she also available?
ColombiaLover
01-26-22, 00:19
When I first started to go to MDE back in 2006, I was paying 120 mil at the Mansion at an exchange rate of about 2200 or so. So I was paying about $55. In 2022, $55 equates to about 220 mil at an exchange rate of 4000. I usually pay 150 mil plus some for transportation, so I'm paying less now than I was back in 2006. Got to love it!
As far as "girls knowing their value" I am not sure that these girls so-called "high-end" girls really have the kind of value they think. The reality is that you have stupid gringos chasing pussy they could never get in the USA And paying what these girls want without ever bothering to do research to see if the "high end" girl can actually perform well (which often they do not). Their true value is not really much more than the average FB girl. Guys are paying for luck. To say they had a trophy fuck. It's certainly not for performance.
It's almost as if between the rise of social media and girls able to cut deals with foreigners, ease of accents to Shengen Euro Tourist Visa and girls knowing their value more, the 8's are harder to find in this profession in this city.
I know that this profession is ebys and flows but who knows what will happen in the future. I wonder with inflation if girls rates will finally go up or stay to the prices in CO that they hace been for the past 7 years.
She is here now, in my bed, sleeping. She is a Web cam model and got off work at 6 AM, and showed up on my doorstep early this morning. I unblocked her a few days after the incident, I don't remember exactly, when she tried to hack my WU account. This is the first time I have seen her since then. I am going out now with my amigo to get a black market WiFi hot spot SD chip for my fone because the Internet signal is so fucking weak at The Nutti. For those of you guys coming here to The Nutti (Nutibara Hotel) PM me after you arrive and I may be able so solve the same problem for you, cheap, if Internet is important to you.
I am leaving her alone in my room. My computer is locked, my true valuables are in the room safe or on me. There is a ton of little stuff she can pilfer but I say she won't and if I am wrong, I don't really care. She will probably sleep the entire time because she was up all night. I told her if she touched any of my things I would dangle her out my eighth story window by her ankles as a warning, and next time I would drop her. I said it in a way just crazy enough that she wonders if I really would. I am crazy. I wouldn't do it because I am not strong enough. Otherwise, I would. Nobody here is strong enough to do it if she was conscious. Remember what I told you about her before, big and muscular and strong..Hi,
Could you please help with weak wifi in the nuttibera hotel? Having terrible weak wifi connection and unable to dial into work and getting into trouble.
Need the SD chip you are talking about in your posting.
Can't PM your mail box full.
Mojo Bandit
01-26-22, 01:15
Ernest Hemingway wrote in English.The quote is directly from the book. The setting is Cuba, The main character of the book is Cuban, So it seems he needed to mix in a little spanish also.
So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless.
Besides being able to converse with women which takes everything to a totally different level as you have stated, those who can speak some Spanish, can also avoid and diffuse awkward situations which a lot of guys find themselves in when relying on a translator.
I consider myself an intermediate Spanish speaker, I get all the tenses wrong, have problems pronouncing words, and am screwed up on masculine / feminine usage, yet understand probably at least four times more than I can say. As an example, I know the meaning of lots of words, and cannot at times pronounce them correctly, or even remember them, yet when I hear the word being used, I know the meaning of it.
I studied formally at EAFIT for a while, and then had a private tutor for a few months everyday, and it was an eye opener to the language..I got sucked into a debate here one time with a monger here who felt it was not necessary to know Spanish to get laid, which I never said. Yes, anyone can come here and fuck around and even have a good time without speaking a word of Spanish, but every bit of Spanish you learn takes it to another level. I got so frustrated in the debate and the time I wasted that I swore off posting responses for several months. But that was my problem, not his.
I would go as far to say even though I am constantly awash in this feeling that my life can't get any better, the single biggest factor that is making it better, is learning Spanish.
My problem now, is that I am having such a good time already it's hard to find the motivation and discipline to undergo formal Spanish instruction. So I am learning by immersion and osmosis. I may be lazy on the Spanish, but I am a Happy Lazy. The penalty will be I am taking longer than I should, but it feels like in the long run that won't bother me because like I said, I am already happier than a pig in shit.
Learning a foreign language has been called single the hardest thing a brain can do. I don't know exactly what that means, but sometimes I think I feel it. I am certainly not a natural at it.
Someone else said, nothing worthwhile doing is easy. When I hear a mongerer say he's not happy here about the pussy here and he doesn't give a shit about learning any Spanish, I think to myself, "he doesn't really want it."
Sounds like you are functionally literate, which is usually around 12,000 words for educated listeners. The "problem" with Medellin is their Spanish is very idiomatic, it has an accent, and the listeners are mostly uneducated, so if you vary even slightly off of what they are used to hearing, they don't even try to understand you, they give up early and quick. In a way that's good, because it forces me to say the words "right", for here.
When I first started to go to MDE back in 2006, I was paying 120 mil at the Mansion at an exchange rate of about 2200 or so. So I was paying about $55. In 2022, $55 equates to about 220 mil at an exchange rate of 4000. I usually pay 150 mil plus some for transportation, so I'm paying less now than I was back in 2006. Got to love it!
As far as "girls knowing their value" I am not sure that these girls so-called "high-end" girls really have the kind of value they think. The reality is that you have stupid gringos chasing pussy they could never get in the USA And paying what these girls want without ever bothering to do research to see if the "high end" girl can actually perform well (which often they do not). Their true value is not really much more than the average FB girl. Guys are paying for luck. To say they had a trophy fuck. It's certainly not for performance.I pay for opportunity, nothing more.
If I'm willing to pay, then the girl already passed my requirements for attractiveness. I can't speak for anyone else, but for me any girl's attractiveness varies depending on my mood. Paying more because one girl is more attractive than another is a losing game, because it sets the bottom limit on price on the day I am most attracted to her.
Paying for performance is a guessing game. There are a lot of factors that go into performance. Even the world elite athletes have bad days. Expecting a working girl to always have her best day, because someone else reported about her skills will often lead to disappointment.
Instead I pay for opportunity. I have an opportunity to get her comfortable and interested. I have the opportunity to coax an excellent performance out of her. I have the opportunity to get to know her and enjoy the entire encounter.
When it's done, if I took the most of the opportunity, I'm satisfied.
So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless.
Besides being able to converse with women which takes everything to a totally different level as you have stated, those who can speak some Spanish, can also avoid and diffuse awkward situations which a lot of guys find themselves in when relying on a translator.
I consider myself an intermediate Spanish speaker, I get all the tenses wrong, have problems pronouncing words, and am screwed up on masculine / feminine usage, yet understand probably at least four times more than I can say. As an example, I know the meaning of lots of words, and cannot at times pronounce them correctly, or even remember them, yet when I hear the word being used, I know the meaning of it.
I studied formally at EAFIT for a while, and then had a private tutor for a few months everyday, and it was an eye opener to the language..I agree with you. Guys come here and think that using the translator is all they need. It's funny in so many ways. First of all, the translators work great for simple 5 word sentences. What time is it?, Where is the bathroom? Is there a barber nearby? Etc.
But try to form a complex sentence and your translator will leave you in the twilight zone. The other problem is girls here (Latinas in general) have a very short attention span. Especially when they are on FB messenger or WhatsApp with 5 other conversations going simultaneously. Needing to copy her sentence and paste it in the translator and then write out a response and copy the translation and paste it into your communication app is going to take a few minutes no matter how fast you are at it. God forbid she uses some abbreviations which might completely confuse your translator. Meanwhile she has gotten 5 other messages and is concentrating on the ones that have quick responses. Translator users? Ever notice how your conversations sometimes stall out? Now you know why.
As to Spanish being difficult. Yes verb conjugation and extra tenses make the language different than English. But there are some big and I mean huge advantages too. In Spanish, letters and consonants have consistent patterns and sounds. Words spell like they sound. Basically if you can spell it you can pronounce it. Think about English for a second. Take the "A" vowel. Sometimes it is silent. Like in boat, moat, coat, float. Some times it is hard like in: mate, hate, fate, bait and other times it is medium like in: father, matter, hat, cat, flat. So to pronounce words perfectly in English you have to know almost all the words. Because there are so many variations and exceptions.
The reason. Is that English is a amalgamation of many languages. Which really makes the language difficult.
Member #4729
01-26-22, 02:51
I use a simple rating system which works spectacularly. First a point I think you were making. The 1-10 scale is almost exclusively used here for bragging. Beyond that use it serves almost no purpose.
My rating system is a nested boolean system. It starts with.
1. Do I want to fuck her? If the answer is yes:
2. Is she available for me to fuck? If yes:
3. Can we agree on a price?
That's it. I don't need to worry whether other people want to fuck her, or how much they would pay. It doesn't matter if someone would rate her a 9 and someone else would mark her as a 6. There's no crap about how well she'll perform, because I'll figure that out afterwards.I really like this post, thanks. I completely agree but would also add a subroutine to 2, which is: "Is she available to fuck me in the manner I require (BBBJ) ?
I look back on a session and ask myself, "did I get off?" and the affirmative answer doesn't have a lot to do with this whole ratings scale. Sure there is a minimum threshold- but so many other factors come into play in a positive experience. It's been often said but bears repeating that the hottest girls are often the worst lays.
The monger / friend I know who uses the scale a lot and posts on it here often I think sees it as a market research tool- one more data point to map a particular scene and to gauge its economics. The trouble he runs into- the main conclusion that we all seem to agree upon-is that it's largely unreliable because a 10 to some guys is usually a 6 to him, so the datasets will be inevitably compromised or need adjusting to account for this wild deviation. It's a methodology that has some limited use, but should not be part of the primary tool kit. In a sense it might be usable only for one to keep internal tabs rather than as a networked information pool.
Thanks to all you guys for all the great info in this thread! I'll be in Medellin all of February for my first time. Flying in and out of Bogota so I'll probably hang there for 4-7 days and experience their scene first (not to mention Airbnb's seem much cheaper here, maybe seasonal) before hopping a flight down to MDE for the rest of the month. Maybe hitting Carty for a few days at the end of the trip. I'd love to connect with some of you guys while in town!
I did the Colombian Cupid thing and also followed advice here with a new facebook profile and it's honestly hard to keep up with all the messages I get, especially on Cupid. I'm in the states begging 5's and 6's off sugar daddy sites to meet me so I've had to adjust my expectations and my new motto is "If she ain't a dime, she aint worth my time" I say this in my head every time I view a new facebook / CC profile haha. And by dime I really mean at least an 8. I'll probably add Tinder in the next couple days and was debating Seeking but Seeking seems unnecessary at this point.
Currently shopping for Airbnb's. Wanting something for under $50 a day with a nice balcony w great wifi so I can smoke cigars and work from my laptop. It's interesting trying to read between the lines in the descriptions to figure out if they're "guest" friendly or not. I remember reading on here to first book an airbnb for a day and then negotiate with the owner for a longer stay, right? Also, I've found an apartment I think I like in Poblado but it's on the ground floor with no security. I see this as good and bad. No guest fees or hassles but I feel like a bit of a target too. Do you guys know of any spots in Poblado where I could smoke a cigar and get some work done too? I was looking at Laureles but my Spanish sucks (working hard on it though) so I figured I'd just stick to Poblado.
On the topic at hand, I've dabbled with learning Spanish for years and have played around on Duolingo but have really hit it hard the past few weeks with this trip upcoming. I've still got a long way to go but the key is to just enjoy the journey I think. It will take however long it takes. I've jumped around youtube channels and podcasts and trying to watch Netflix in Spanish only but the Language Transfer podcast is currently my favorite. The English language is made up of mostly Latin and German words while Spanish comes from Latin so there are lots of similarities and Language Transfer starts with what you already know in English and builds from there. To Go in Spanish is Voy and we have a similar English word from the same Latin root, Voyage. Also, Confirmation comes from the latin root of Con Firma. With signature. Spanish word for signature is Firma. Confrontation is Con Front. With front aka forehead. Etc etc. So it's not like trying to learn Chinese. You just have to make the connections and you'll learn about 3 k words.
Unless I'm talking out of my ass because I still suck.
Did you part with Scarlett? Or is she also available?I was never with Scarlet. I wish I was LOL. Just giving my opinion on what an 8-9 would be in my book. She is a webcam girl but I have partied with her. That's about it.
So I really, really do not agree that Spanish is the harder language. There they're their. Rough doesn't rhyme rhyme with through and neither rhymes with bough. Tons of silent letters in English where in Spanish you only have one, and it's always silent (unless combined as ch-; 'ch' used to be a separate letter in Spanish, as did 'rr' but the authorities have decided that is no longer true). And then you have lead as in metal and lead as in follow. None of that in Spanish. You can show me a word in Spanish I've never seen before and I can pronounce it correctly. There's rules on what syllable is stressed, and they're quite clear and simple. I would say one thing that's harder about Spanish is the existence of the two past tenses, preterit and imperfect. There is just nothing like that in English. And I guess the masculine vs. Feminine thing. My neighbor is from Macedonia and he said Spanish was easier. My other neighbor said the same thing but she is a native speaker of French and acknowledged that helped.
Regarding the subjunctive in English, it definitely exists but its use is more limited. The most common use is for 'contrary to fact conditions' and that is why 'if I was you,' which you hear all the time, is flat out wrong It is impossible for you to be me, nor for me to be you. Therefore the subjunctive mood 'were' must be used. 'I would not do that if I were you. ' Another example of the subjunctive in English: 'It is necessary that he go to the store. ' Most native English speakers, though, would probably just say 'he needs to go to the store. ' The first sentence has a change of subject between the independent and dependent clauses and the second one does not, is the difference..Especially with regards to pronunciation English is much harder to learn than Spanish. To, too and two rhyme with you, flu, slough, flew and true. Most of us here grew up with English, making every moment of every day a learning opportunity.
I really like this post, thanks. I completely agree but would also add a subroutine to 2, which is: "Is she available to fuck me in the manner I require (BBBJ) ?
I look back on a session and ask myself, "did I get off?" and the affirmative answer doesn't have a lot to do with this whole ratings scale. Sure there is a minimum threshold- but so many other factors come into play in a positive experience. It's been often said but bears repeating that the hottest girls are often the worst lays.
The monger / friend I know who uses the scale a lot and posts on it here often I think sees it as a market research tool- one more data point to map a particular scene and to gauge its economics. The trouble he runs into- the main conclusion that we all seem to agree upon-is that it's largely unreliable because a 10 to some guys is usually a 6 to him, so the datasets will be inevitably compromised or need adjusting to account for this wild deviation. It's a methodology that has some limited use, but should not be part of the primary tool kit. In a sense it might be usable only for one to keep internal tabs rather than as a networked information pool.I disagree that the best looking girls are necessarily the worst performers. I put some of the blame on the man.
I might be generalizing too much here. Many guys, when they get a really hot girl are too eager. They don't establish a mood, and put the girl in the right frame of mind to enjoy the session.
So true, and whenever someone on this board say's they can function just fine using a translator, they are clueless...Haha, I will be one of those that think translator is fine, at least for the first time. But I do think if you want to get to the next level, knowing the language will help a lot as I have seen it first hand. Because not knowing the language well enough, I had date that the girl thought I cancelled and did not show up. I also had date that the girl showed up when I thought she wasn't coming. All the sentences were short, I actually could understand without translator. The problem was the context switching was too quick, or the girl was using slang that had the opposite meaning. I once had to tell the girl that I won't cancel no matter what to avoid any misunderstanding.
...is that it's largely unreliable because a 10 to some guys is usually a 6 to him, so the datasets will be inevitably compromised or need adjusting to account for this wild deviation.What others think about his 10? It is possible that others all agree with him when he does not agree with others.
So I really, really do not agree that Spanish is the harder language. There they're their. Rough doesn't rhyme rhyme with through and neither rhymes with bough.l.There are 8 different ways to pronounce '. Ough" in English. It is not a phonetci language, unlike Spanish. So also has way more exceptions to rules. So it is much harder to read and write than Spanish. It also has 1. 000 upon 1. 000's more words. A consequence of its evolution through mergers with Latin, Nordic, French, Germanic.
Yes, Huacho is correct (twice in one week) about subjunctive. It does exist but is often not used / used incorrectly. But its use is more limited than in Spanish.
Another factor that slowed my own learning down is this. Colombia is a hugely noisy country and my hearing is not what it once was. It would be difficult enough to pick up small but important inflections in tone, but impossible in a club with 1. 000 decibels of reggaeton.
Here's one way to compare the two languages' vocabularies: Current editions of the "Diccionario de la Real Academia Española" (the "Dictionary of the Royal Spanish Academy" the closest thing there is to an official list of Spanish vocabulary, has around 88,000 words. In addition, the Academy's list of Americanismos (Americanisms) includes about 70,000 words used in one or more Spanish-speaking countries of Latin America. So to round things off, figure there are around 150,000 "official" Spanish words.
In contrast, the Oxford English Dictionary has about 600,000 words, but that includes words that are no longer in use. It has full definitions of around 230,000 words. The makers of the dictionary estimate that when all is said and done, "there are, at the very least, a quarter of a million distinct English words, excluding inflections, and words from technical and regional vocabulary not covered by the OED, or words not yet added to the published dictionary. ".
Mr Enternational
01-26-22, 16:24
Another factor that slowed my own learning down is this. Colombia is a hugely noisy country and my hearing is not what it once was. It would be difficult enough to pick up small but important inflections in tone, but impossible in a club with 1. 000 decibels of reggaeton.When this covid is over we will all be Spanish experts after having to listen and interpret through all these masks and glass windows and shit for all this time.
When this covid is over we will all be Spanish experts after having to listen and interpret through all these masks and glass windows and shit for all this time.Haha, that's very true. I am going to develop a Spanish speech impediment accent. Makes it extra-difficult to understand with muffles and without lips.
Comparing the number of words gets tricky if you consider every conjugation of the verb tenses and moods. And of course the imperfect subjunctive can be formed two ways. Are the two alternatives 'hubiera' and 'hubiese' different words? We had a long and inconclusive discussion about this in I believe it was Spanish IV. I will give one piece of anecdotal evidence leaning towards Spanish: a good friend of mine from Argentina said her brother knew over forty different words for 'pussy. ' I don't know anywhere near that many.
Another thing about Spanish is you could learn it in Country A and then go to Spanish-speaking Country be and not understand jack shit for quite a while. I learned mostly in Spain and then I went to Argentina and had NO idea what the fuck they were saying and why they misspelled so many words all the time. I remember going to La Boca in BsAs and a guy in a kiosko was counting out my change in one peso coins (which are now completely worthless). 'Uno, dos, tres, cuatro, chinco' and I am like 'chinco? Where the fuck am I?' Or learn in MDE where the Spanish is quite clear IMO, and then go to Puerto Rico. Good luck with that!
Of course that is true in English as well. If I am absolutely sure someone is speaking English, but I have absolutely no idea what they are saying, they are Scottish. I had an employee from Louisiana and I asked him his name three times. Then I went and looked at his timecard.
Punto Com is 55 K now I was told. An increase of 5 K. Talent looked the same as always. They could use an upgrade, but a decent spot for those that have never been. Had a good session with a repeat. BBBJ and sex in several positions.
Comparing the number of words gets trickyI don't think they count conjugated verb variations in the numbers.
Scottish can be very tough. Scouse too. But for me the country accents of Ireland are the worst. Try this fella out:
https://youtu.be/pit0OkNp7s8
What I have found in Medellin is a lot of the girls are not hardened prostitutes but more like regular girls that have a little side hustle.
I consider myself half fluent and have no problem carrying on a conversation. I have met working girls and take them out to dinner and go dancing and back to my apartment afterwards. If I didn't know any spanish it would be a little awkward in my opinion. Sex is nice but it is much better once a mental connection is made and the girl likes you. Yes you can go to Medellin with little or no Spanish but if you take the time to learn it there is so much more that you can tap into.
Very true what you and Mr. Entertainment brought up. Learning Spanish has become a top priority for me.
I hit ground zero today at high noon, and it was quite disappointing.
Lots and lots of ugly chunky Venezuelans milling about, and I didn't see any thin cute ones out, perhaps they were all occupied.
Perhaps it will be better tomorrow.
Mojo Bandit
01-27-22, 00:17
Haha, I will be one of those that think translator is fine, at least for the first time.
Especially with regards to pronunciation English is much harder to learn than Spanish. To, too and two rhyme with you, flu, slough, flew and true. Most of us here grew up with English, making every moment of every day a learning opportunity.I have studied Spanish on and off for years, wish I had more time to study the immersion way it is the best. Use it or lose it.
I agree that comparing learning Spanish to learning English is a moot point for a native English speaker. We learned English so young and picked up our language habits so young that there is know way to remember the learning of it,
I think with Spanish there is some frustration with for example having to learn all the conjugations because it is just counterintuitive for an English speaker to find out they have to learn so many different forms of what is one word in English. We get off easy in English by just haveing to add an S to a verb when talking about the second person (I write, you write, they write, we write, he writes) compared to Spanish (Yo escribo, tu escribes, ellos escriben, nosotros escribimos, el escribe) of course in some cases it saves writing because if I say "escribimos" then I do not have to write "nosotros" for the reader to understand - so this does have its advantages - but it just adds to the learning in the meantime.
About a year ago I started studying French. And now Spanish seems much easier LOL. I do appreciate that Spanish has a straightforward 5 vowels sounds. English has 14. Spanish has 16 and 4 of them are nasal vowels which explains why the French sound like snobs when they talk LOL.
BeachBumCeo
01-27-22, 00:30
Currently shopping for Airbnb's. Wanting something for under $50 a day with a nice balcony w great wifi so I can smoke cigars and work from my laptop. It's interesting trying to read between the lines in the descriptions to figure out if they're "guest" friendly or not. I remember reading on here to first book an airbnb for a day and then negotiate with the owner for a longer stay, right? Also, I've found an apartment I think I like in Poblado but it's on the ground floor with no security. I see this as good and bad. No guest fees or hassles but I feel like a bit of a target too. Do you guys know of any spots in Poblado where I could smoke a cigar and get some work done too? I was looking at Laureles but my Spanish sucks (working hard on it though) so I figured I'd just stick to Poblado.When looking at Airbnb's, always check the "house rules". Also, make your reservation for 2 people. Not one. So you can always justify your guest. PobladoRentals is a place I used to rent from when I first started coming down here because they are very chica friendly, and they have some nice properties.
Speaking good Spanish was probably the greatest single contributor to my success on my recent trip to Medellin. I'd consider myself fluent due to being married to a Central American and working in Central America. I speak Spanish almost every day as my Spanish is stronger than my wife's English. Actually, one of the funniest backhanded compliments I got this trip was from one of the facebook girls, Sara, who told me "no hablas como un gringo. Tienes un accento como un campesino". Or you don't speak like a gringo. You've got a peasant accent. I'd notch that as a win for me and my Central American Spanish. That's not to say I don't make mistakes. I still get noun genders mixed up for some words and my grasp of the subjunctive is less than perfect. But being able to flirt with them and ask them about their lives and families pays dividends in terms of how they treat you.
I don't think Spanish is that hard if you're motivated and in the right environment. It probably took me 2 or 3 years to get close to where I am now. Just like lifting weights, it's about getting something done every day / week. In terms of environment, you can either travel and immerse yourself, or if you are in the States make friends with your Hispanic contractor, yard worker house cleaner, etc. That's also a great way to get discounts and contacts for other jobs. I find that most Spanish-speaking Latinos both abroad and in the US are usually really happy to speak with you, no matter how bad your Spanish, and really glad to teach you about their culture and language.
Also, don't be shy. Use what you know and you will get better / learn more. I've found at least that some of my biggest language mistakes from when I was learning Spanish ended up making good stories later. For example, I used to work with my wife's brother-in-law in Honduras. We don't have a concise term for this familial relationship but in Spanish, he and I are "concuños". Now my big Spanish mistake happened after someone asked us how we knew each other and I proudly stated "somos con cuernos" wanting to say concuños. The literal translation is we are with horns. But the expression "con cuernos" refers to someone whose been cheated on by their spouse. It's something he and I still laugh about.
I don't think they count conjugated verb variations in the numbers.I am not sure either but it would definitely make a difference.
Scottish can be very tough. Scouse too. But for me the country accents of Ireland are the worst.Probably equally challenging but I've spent time in England and Ireland but not in Scotland. So less of an ear for the Scots. I spent half my time in England so I can speak Scouse but it's tough, oi?
If someone wants to start a thread for talking about the Spanish language so it doesn't clutter up all the pussy, feel free. I just met a gringo in a bar and we were chatting and he said, 'It is a shame there aren't any hookers here. ' I said, 'Who told you there weren't any hookers here?' 'Um well I haven't seen any. ' So I showed him on Google maps where the *****houses were, and he did not want to go there because he 'could not speak Spanish. ' That gives one more data point on whether it does or does not matter if you speak Spanish. Now in this particular gringo's case, whether it was a language problem or a huevos problem, I am not sure. Some of both so why not eliminate the former problem?
"I think with Spanish there is some frustration with for example having to learn all the conjugations because it is just counterintuitive for an English speaker to find out they have to learn so many different forms of what is one word in English."
All verbs in English must also be conjugated. To me, the problem is that because the US educational system sucks, native speakers of English don't know what a perfect tense is, for example, and when confronted with "conjugating verbs," they don't realize they have been doing it in English since they were three years old. Example verb, to fuck. Obviously I fuck, you fuck, we fuck, they fuck. Simple indicative. English grammar is no longer being taught in Yew Ess schools because it's been so long since they taught it, the teachers don't know it. I have fucked a hooker. Past perfect. I fucked a hooker. Simple past tense. I fucked one or more hookers a lot over some period of time. Imperfect. Or in general if I say I fucked a lot of but hookers. How I feel about that and where I am going with that will determine preterite vs imperfecto. If I think of my past fucking as being over and done with, 'Cogí con muchas putas. ' Pretérito because over and done with. But if I view my current situation as being more open ended and it's possible I might screw more hookers, I might go with 'Cogí a con muchas putas,' meaning I fuck a lot of working girls in general, no real time frame.
ParamySpam
01-27-22, 07:33
Speaking good Spanish was probably the greatest single contributor to my success on my recent trip to Medellin. I'd consider myself fluent due to being married to a Central American and working in Central America. I speak Spanish almost every day as my Spanish is stronger than my wife's English. Actually, one of the funniest backhanded compliments I got this trip was from one of the facebook girls, Sara, who told me "no hablas como un gringo. Tienes un accento como un campesino". Or you don't speak like a gringo. You've got a peasant accent. I'd notch that as a win for me and my Central American Spanish. That's not to say I don't make mistakes. I still get noun genders mixed up for some words and my grasp of the subjunctive is less than perfect. But being able to flirt with them and ask them about their lives and families pays dividends in terms of how they treat you.
I don't think Spanish is that hard if you're motivated and in the right environment. It probably took me 2 or 3 years to get close to where I am now. Just like lifting weights, it's about getting something done every day / week. In terms of environment, you can either travel and immerse yourself, or if you are in the States make friends with your Hispanic contractor, yard worker house cleaner, etc. That's also a great way to get discounts and contacts for other jobs. I find that most Spanish-speaking Latinos both abroad and in the US are usually really happy to speak with you, no matter how bad your Spanish, and really glad to teach you about their culture and language..The correct word is not "concu nos". Is concu nados (with and enie).
When you guys start talking grammar I get left back at the bus station. I am a product of a weird Florida public education system that at that time, English instruction was called "Humanities" and I never got any sentence structuring or diagraming or whatever it's called after elementary school. Subject, predicate, noun, verb. That's pretty much it for me. I don't know where I heard it, but somewhere I read for humanoids in my situation, who are older, transplanting to a new country that speaks a foreign language, was to not concentrate on getting everything purrfekt but focus on how to communicate, how to understand and be understood, there won't be any tests, and learn by immersion and osmosis. Half the battle is culture and not specific sounds. That resonated with me because it sounded like less work, jaajjajjaa. Give me another year, I will be functionally fluent in Spanish.
Recent gratuitous fotos.
"I think with Spanish there is some frustration with for example having to learn all the conjugations because it is just counterintuitive for an English speaker to find out they have to learn so many different forms of what is one word in English."
All verbs in English must also be conjugated. To me, the problem is that because the US educational system sucks, native speakers of English don't know what a perfect tense is, for example, and when confronted with "conjugating verbs," they don't realize they have been doing it in English since they were three years old. Example verb, to fuck. Obviously I fuck, you fuck, we fuck, they fuck. Simple indicative. English grammar is no longer being taught in Yew Ess schools because it's been so long since they taught it, the teachers don't know it. I have fucked a hooker. Past perfect. I fucked a hooker. Simple past tense. I fucked one or more hookers a lot over some period of time. Imperfect. Or in general if I say I fucked a lot of but hookers. How I feel about that and where I am going with that will determine preterite vs imperfecto. If I think of my past fucking as being over and done with, 'Cog con muchas putas. ' Pretrito because over and done with. But if I view my current situation as being more open ended and it's possible I might screw more hookers, I might go with 'Cog a con muchas putas,' meaning I fuck a lot of working girls in general, no real time frame.All due respect, and perhaps I started this rampage of Spanish posts, but enough is enough, and I don't mean this in a dis-respectful way, in fact I'm envious of you and others on this board who are totally fluent in Spanish, but this board as of lately has been somewhat devoid of some meaty, nasty posts of what's going on in Medellin, and yes, there are a few members physically here besides me, but seems to be a lot less than prior to the Holidays. Again, no dis-respect.
"I think with Spanish there is some frustration with for example having to learn all the conjugations because it is just counterintuitive for an English speaker to find out they have to learn so many different forms of what is one word in English."
All verbs in English must also be conjugated. To me, the problem is that because the US educational system sucks, native speakers of English don't know what a perfect tense is, for example, and when confronted with "conjugating verbs," they don't realize they have been doing it in English since they were three years old. Example verb, to fuck. Obviously I fuck, you fuck, we fuck, they fuck. Simple indicative. English grammar is no longer being taught in Yew Ess schools because it's been so long since they taught it, the teachers don't know it. I have fucked a hooker. Past perfect. I fucked a hooker. Simple past tense. I fucked one or more hookers a lot over some period of time. Imperfect. Or in general if I say I fucked a lot of but hookers. How I feel about that and where I am going with that will determine preterite vs imperfecto. If I think of my past fucking as being over and done with, 'Cog con muchas putas. ' Pretrito because over and done with. But if I view my current situation as being more open ended and it's possible I might screw more hookers, I might go with 'Cog a con muchas putas,' meaning I fuck a lot of working girls in general, no real time frame.I am; you / we / they are; he / she / it is.
I / he / she / it was; you / they / we were.
I / you / he / she / they / it / we will be.
Etcetera.
Not only does English have conjugations, but the rules aren't consistent. Except for the irregular verbs, conjugation in Spanish is consistent.
Recent gratuitous fotos.Seems like your expanding your horizons, besides the backdoor, your into the pregnant ones. LOL.
There's a whole crew of guys here into them, and I think Tallman spotted like nine pregnant ones out working in Centro a while back he posted about, or maybe it was only a half-dozen.
And on occasion, I have seen three to four out working in Centro.
About a decade ago, I did one that was close to popping, but it just isn't my cup of tea.
Perhaps a three-some of two very pregnant women is in the cards for you, but it might be a bit awkward.
But if anyone can pull this off, I'm sure it's you! LOL.
" If I think of my past fucking as being over and done with, 'Cog con muchas putas. ' Pretrito because over and done with. But if I view my current situation as being more open ended and it's possible I might screw more hookers, I might go with 'Cog a con muchas putas,' meaning I fuck a lot of working girls in general, no real time frame.So the autocorrect defeated my lesson by erasing the 'a' in my example of the imperfect, making it look exactly like the preterite, and making the post useless while making Huacho look stupid. It's really fabulous software, though.
Coger in the first person preterite is see oh gee eye with an apostrophe.
Coger in the first person imperfect is see oh gee eye with an apostrophe and then a 'A' which the autocorrect software erases if you put in accent marks.
ChuchoLoco
01-27-22, 19:43
I am; you / we / they are; he / she / it is.
I / he / she / it was; you / they / we were.
I / you / he / she / they / it / we will be.
Etcetera.
Not only does English have conjugations, but the rules aren't consistent. Except for the irregular verbs, conjugation in Spanish is consistent.For, four, fore.
Here, hear.
There, their, they're.
Hair, hare.
Etc.
All languages are difficult to learn. The hardest one is the one that you are trying to learn. When you speak your own language you don't stop to think what tense etc you just know what to say and you should do the same for Spanish. Just learn dialogue and how to say something in a particular situation. If you are over 45 or so, it will be difficult so make up cheat sheets of what you want to say and keep it simple. A good canslator can help but better to look up phrases.
Mojo Bandit
01-27-22, 23:56
I / you / he / she / they / it / we will be
Not only does English have conjugations, but the rules aren't consistent. Except for the irregular verbs, conjugation in Spanish is consistent.
The correct word is not "concu nos". Is concu nados (with and enie).
"I think with Spanish there is some frustration with for example having to learn all the conjugations because it is just counterintuitive for an English speaker to find out they have to learn so many different forms of what is one word in English."
To me, the problem is that because the US educational system sucks, native speakers of English don't know what a perfect tense is, for example, and when confronted with "conjugating verbs," they don't realize they have been doing it in English since they were three years old.
All due respect, and perhaps I started this rampage of Spanish posts, but enough is enough, and I don't mean this in a dis-respectful way, in fact I'm envious of you and others on this board who are totally fluent in Spanish, but this board as of lately has been somewhat devoid of some meaty, nasty posts of what's going on in Medellin, and yes, there are a few members physically here besides me, but seems to be a lot less than prior to the Holidays. Again, no dis-respect.Out of respect for Surfer's respectful request I started a User Blog called "Learning Spanish" - to find it you back out to the "Colombia Forum" and scroll down past the "Reports" threads and down to the "User Blogs" section. If anyone is interested: As of right now it is on top but of course the order of the threads change according to when the last post was made in each thread. So this may be a conversation that runs its course in a short while but in the mean time I copied and pasted some of the recent posts here (which means the content is not my post but it will say it was posted by me).
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4283-Learning-Spanish&p=2656361#post2656361.
Thank you, this is much appreciated.
Out of respect for Surfer's respectful request I started a User Blog called "Learning Spanish" - to find it you back out to the "Colombia Forum" and scroll down past the "Reports" threads and down to the "User Blogs" section. If anyone is interested: As of right now it is on top but of course the order of the threads change according to when the last post was made in each thread. So this may be a conversation that runs its course in a short while but in the mean time I copied and pasted some of the recent posts here (which means the content is not my post but it will say it was posted by me).
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4283-Learning-Spanish&p=2656361#post2656361.
Steve 9696
01-28-22, 03:29
Yes I RTTF. In fact I do daily. The Medellin thread is super active and as many of you may know I contribute regularly in other major threads where I have knowledge. Here's the rub. I hve no knowledge of Med. I like to read about it but it all just washes over me. Like some warm pussy juice.
So now here I am most likely coming to Med end of March and have questions as I start planning. So I would trul appreciate it if we could skip the RTTF comments and some generous members provide concise answers. (I am glad to provide any in return on US, Brazil, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, China and Taiwan.
Often questions get asked with no context which is lame. So here is the context:
I prefer to stay at nice hotels in a part of the city that has a lot to do. Cafes. Restaurants and Bars. I am amazed to see a ton of hotels at $35 a night or something. I'm happy to pay to have a nice fit and finish. Maybe balcony and jacuzzi. I am always envious when you guys are showing all that. The buck goes far in Med. So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels.
I have a huge list of Facebook girls and maybe I will just do the party in the room thing. But honestly I love the real world club pickup. For reference Scandallo is a fave. I also like Sharks in Germany where obviously it's a lot more commercial but a nice place to relax and chat up your fave girl. It needn't be super luxe like Scandallo but not dicey either. What are the places like this in Med or should I stick to Facebook girls.
Although I've been a ton of places as a Medellin virgin I might enjoy a wingman with similar tastes so feel free to HMU by message. Happy to generally cover drinks or other for my wing. Spanish speakers particularly welcome tho not necessary.
I'm sure I have other questions so def contact me if you are open to helping guide my virgin ass or wing with me.
...So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels.
...What are the places like this in Med or should I stick to Facebook girls
.I always stay in Poblado and I like it. Other folks prefer the Laureles area. Yet others like Envigado or Sabaneta. Poblado is probably the most expensive but also offers the most. There are many nice hotels In Poblado, just check the prices and you will know. I had a wingman this past December and he stayed at the Marriott in Poblado. Nice hotel but quite expensive. I stay in an apartment, and I can bring in chicks any time I want. Very convenient.
Keep in mind that unlike Brazil, most hotels in Medellin are not girl friendly, I. E. They don't let you have female visitors. My buddy who stayed in Marriott did not have a problem with bringing girls. Therefore, the rule varies from hotel to hotel. If you rtff, you will get a list of hotels that are girl friendly.
You cannot find anything like Scandallo or Sharks in Medellin. There are 2 clubs that are a poor version of Scandallo, Fase Dos and La Isla. Practically, any taxi driver knows where they are. They get going late so don't go there before 10 pm.
Parque Lleras in Poblado is a poor version of Sharks. You will find girls roaming around at night. Once you find one you like, either take her to your place or ask her to take you to an ST hotel, within walking distance. The cost of the ST hotel is about 100 K cops, and the girls typically ask around 200 k to 300 k for a session. Most of them would go for 200 k.
Finally, parque Lleras has another club called Gusto, another poor version of Scandallo. Most of the girls there are hard core and ask for too much money. I never liked it.
BTW, Fase Dos and La Isla are strip clubs, but have rooms in the club where you can enjoy some time with a girl from the club. Gusto is a regular club and you can take the girl either to your place or to an ST hotel.
All of the above are in addition to FB girls, my favorites.
Out of respect for Surfer's respectful request I started a User Blog called "Learning Spanish" -
...Thanks a lot buddy. I very much enjoyed the discussion about Spanish grammar, especially coming from folks who know what they are talking about, but it seems to have taken over this thread. Thanks for taking this initiative.
I'm in Medellin and Bogota monthly and I'm going to give my 2 cents. Meeting girls on Tinder is the way to go. Many will say that is a good way to get drugged. In many years of traveling there it has never happened to me. I stay in apartments that have a porter. You just have to be smart. But you can easily meet girls on there for 200,000 pesos or less per encounter. Some of them are just looking for a foreigner to take them on trips. Show them a good time. I met a beautiful 24 year old that spent an entire week with me in Cartagena. I gave her 500,000 pesos as a gift. It was a week of wonderful amazing sex. We even hooked up with a girl at the club and took her back to the hotel and had fun. I'm not much into Street action or the strip clubs. I like to meet normal girls. And tender has been an easy way to do that.
Yes I RTTF. In fact I do daily. The Medellin thread is super active and as many of you may know I contribute regularly in other major threads where I have knowledge. Here's the rub. I hve no knowledge of Med. I like to read about it but it all just washes over me. Like some warm pussy juice.
So now here I am most likely coming to Med end of March and have questions as I start planning. So I would trul appreciate it if we could skip the RTTF comments and some generous members provide concise answers. (I am glad to provide any in return on US, Brazil, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, China and Taiwan.
Often questions get asked with no context which is lame. So here is the context:
I prefer to stay at nice hotels in a part of the city that has a lot to do. Cafes. Restaurants and Bars. I am amazed to see a ton of hotels at $35 a night or something. I'm happy to pay to have a nice fit and finish. Maybe balcony and jacuzzi. I am always envious when you guys are showing all that. The buck goes far in Med. So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels..You didn't say how long your coming to Medellin for, and it sounds like based on your previous mongering background that you are used to paying what would be considered lots of money for services which in Medellin will be at a fraction of the cost.
I know some guys might wince at this, but since it's your maiden voyage, and sounds like you have disposable income, you might just stay at the Mansion, or I guess it's called Casa Blanca in Poblado if your only going to be town for a short period of time, or at least for the first week. Lots of newbies stay there, utilize their services which aren't cheap, including the girls that frequent the place, but you can quickly get a taste of things and will be in Poblado, which seems like it will be a good fit for you versus other parts of town.
I'm not inferring that your not capable of managing a monger trip on your own with my recommendation, but Medellin in contrast to the Countries you mentioned is very different, and more diverse, meaning all kinds of venues that you might want to sample, and places you won't even want to get near.
Hopefully this helps.
MedellinLove
01-28-22, 14:44
I am purchasing at apartment and I wanted to know if anyone knew the best vendor to send 70 k usd. The online companies have limits.
I like to meet normal girls. And tender has been an easy way to do that.I hate to be the one to break this to you, but women who fuck foreigners for money are not 'normal girls.'
I'm in Medellin and Bogota monthly and I'm going to give my 2 cents. Meeting girls on Tinder is the way to go. Many will say that is a good way to get drugged. In many years of traveling there it has never happened to me. I stay in apartments that have a porter. You just have to be smart. But you can easily meet girls on there for 200,000 pesos or less per encounter. Some of them are just looking for a foreigner to take them on trips. Show them a good time. I met a beautiful 24 year old that spent an entire week with me in Cartagena. I gave her 500,000 pesos as a gift. It was a week of wonderful amazing sex. We even hooked up with a girl at the club and took her back to the hotel and had fun. I'm not much into Street action or the strip clubs. I like to meet normal girls. And tender has been an easy way to do that.Sounds like fun.
I think there is a new and improved version of Google Translate on line I just noticed, or is it just me? Jjajaja. Anywho, at first blush looks much more user friendly and I am excited to take it for a test spin. Uh oh, does this belong in the new Spanish Learning Blog here? I dunno. Let's have fun.
I am purchasing at apartment and I wanted to know if anyone knew the best vendor to send 70 k usd. The online companies have limits.Allianza will probably be the best way to bring the money into the Country. But before you can utilize their services you will need to be fully vetted by them meaning providing tax returns and other information. Also, however you bring the money into the Country, if the transaction is not registered with the Colombian government which will involve an attorney or a Colombian tax accountant, if at a later date you sell the property, it will be a problem getting the money out of the Country. What you want to do for this sum of money is not as easy as it sounds as your finding out.
Good Luck!
Steve 9696
01-28-22, 16:51
You didn't say how long your coming to Medellin for, and it sounds like based on your previous mongering background that you are used to paying what would be considered lots of money for services which in Medellin will be at a fraction of the cost.
I know some guys might wince at this, but since it's your maiden voyage, and sounds like you have disposable income, you might just stay at the Mansion, or I guess it's called Casa Blanca in Poblado if your only going to be town for a short period of time, or at least for the first week. Lots of newbies stay there, utilize their services which aren't cheap, including the girls that frequent the place, but you can quickly get a taste of things and will be in Poblado, which seems like it will be a good fit for you versus other parts of town.
I'm not inferring that your not capable of managing a monger trip on your own with my recommendation, but Medellin in contrast to the Countries you mentioned is very different, and more diverse, meaning all kinds of venues that you might want to sample, and places you won't even want to get near.
Hopefully this helps.Yeah only in town a few days. All my adventures are on business trips and so I am generally in a town 3-5 days. The Mansion sounds intriguing and thanks for the tip that it's Casa Blanca. I can't find shit about it on the web tho. Surely there are some pics or a website or something somewhere?
P.S. Thanks to all for the tips both here and in I'm. You guys are great.
Shagmeister7777
01-28-22, 16:57
Regarding hotels, I moved between Leblon suites hotel and Estelar apartments Medellin. For both I recommend to book for two people then even though you bring different people they never charge the guests (at least in my experience). During my stay I hung out with a couple of ISG guys, and they were great guys and showed me great things. So, I recommend you try to make some friends here which if anyone is coming into Medellin or is here message me and we can meet up because I am in Medellin till the end of February.Thank you for the report Ricardo. I'm planning on visiting Medellin this year. How was the internet connection at Estelar and Leblon? The reason I ask is because I plan on working from Medellin when I visit.
I'm going to be back in Medellin at the end of February beginning of March. If anyone has some good Laureles airbnbs or buildings they'd recommend please PM me. I am looking for potential alternatives to San Peter, where I've stayed my previous two trips. I stayed on the 15th floor last time, which wasn't bad but don't see anything on the higher floors listed for my dates at San Peter. I stayed on the 4 rth floor once as well and don't want to repeat that. In terms of another building, I would love a slightly quieter place. I'd want a doorman and good security like SP. Also, a gas vs. Electric cooktop would be a plus (though not a must). Of course girl friendly goes without saying. I'm happy to trade some fb contacts / recs over pm or in person when I'm there in exchange for any info.
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but women who fuck foreigners for money are not 'normal girls.'You are projecting different values, I am assuming American values, onto a foreign culture. Maybe not normal to you. Normal for them. Normal for me.
Mechanic88
01-28-22, 19:05
Yes I RTTF. In fact I do daily. The Medellin thread is super active and as many of you may know I contribute regularly in other major threads where I have knowledge. Here's the rub. I hve no knowledge of Med. I like to read about it but it all just washes over me. Like some warm pussy juice.
So now here I am most likely coming to Med end of March and have questions as I start planning. So I would trul appreciate it if we could skip the RTTF comments and some generous members provide concise answers. (I am glad to provide any in return on US, Brazil, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, China and Taiwan.
Often questions get asked with no context which is lame. So here is the context:
I prefer to stay at nice hotels in a part of the city that has a lot to do. Cafes. Restaurants and Bars. I am amazed to see a ton of hotels at $35 a night or something. I'm happy to pay to have a nice fit and finish. Maybe balcony and jacuzzi. I am always envious when you guys are showing all that. The buck goes far in Med. So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels.
I have a huge list of Facebook girls and maybe I will just do the party in the room thing. But honestly I love the real world club pickup. For reference Scandallo is a fave. I also like Sharks in Germany where obviously it's a lot more commercial but a nice place to relax and chat up your fave girl. It needn't be super luxe like Scandallo but not dicey either. What are the places like this in Med or should I stick to Facebook girls.
Although I've been a ton of places as a Medellin virgin I might enjoy a wingman with similar tastes so feel free to HMU by message. Happy to generally cover drinks or other for my wing. Spanish speakers particularly welcome tho not necessary.
I'm sure I have other questions so def contact me if you are open to helping guide my virgin ass or wing with me.I haven't stayed at Haven hotel but from what I can tell it's highly recommended here. And it's right in the middle of parque lleras. They have rooms with jacuzzi also for about 120 usd, it's also chica friendly. I'll be going next week ended up booking 1 night at The Charlee Hotel and the rest at Haven.
... The Mansion sounds intriguing and thanks for the tip that it's Casa Blanca. I can't find shit about it on the web tho. Surely there are some pics or a website or something somewhere?
P.S. Thanks to all for the tips both here and in I'm. You guys are great.The thread is here. The web site is http://hotelmedellinplaza.com.
Hotelmedellinplaza.It is a good suggestion but I don't think you will like the ambiance. The quality of the place does not match the price and you said you already have a large list of FB girls. You can just pay a fee to get into the bar to check out the girls. I think you want to check out Mechanic88's post below. There is a roof top bar Envy on top of Charlee that you can check out.
I want to reduce your expectation so you don't disappoint. To rate the overall facility, relatively speaking, Scandallo is like 5 star hotel, Cafe Foto / Lotus Club is 4 star. Gusto is 2. 5. But for bar only, I think it is pretty nice, on par with a downsized Cafe Foto, minus the stage.
I am purchasing at apartment and I wanted to know if anyone knew the best vendor to send 70 k usd. The online companies have limits.RiceRocket99 did that. You don't want to wire money before you talk to a lawyer or someone familiar with this. I think in order for you to get the money out of Colombia in the future, you need to follow certain procedure.
I haven't stayed at Haven hotel but from what I can tell it's highly recommended here. And it's right in the middle of parque lleras. They have rooms with jacuzzi also for about 120 usd, it's also chica friendly. I'll be going next week ended up booking 1 night at The Charlee Hotel and the rest at Haven.I don't recommend Haven. Yes its chica friendly the usual 1 chica per day rule as all hotels are but the staff gets a 1/2 out of 5 star service rating from me. Ask for towels good luck for them to bring it up. Manager the balding older guy is a rude douchebag and shady too. He gave me some BS reason for moving me floors that there is flooding in my room, but it was super dry. He just wanted to rent out my room at a higher price or it was just plain incompetence - either way inexcusable. So instead of complaining and getting some retaliation, I just switched hotels.
Anyways you've been warned.
Yes I RTTF. In fact I do daily. The Medellin thread is super active and as many of you may know I contribute regularly in other major threads where I have knowledge. Here's the rub. I hve no knowledge of Med. I like to read about it but it all just washes over me. Like some warm pussy juice.
So now here I am most likely coming to Med end of March and have questions as I start planning. So I would trul appreciate it if we could skip the RTTF comments and some generous members provide concise answers. (I am glad to provide any in return on US, Brazil, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, China and Taiwan.
Often questions get asked with no context which is lame. So here is the context:
I prefer to stay at nice hotels in a part of the city that has a lot to do. Cafes. Restaurants and Bars. I am amazed to see a ton of hotels at $35 a night or something. I'm happy to pay to have a nice fit and finish. Maybe balcony and jacuzzi. I am always envious when you guys are showing all that. The buck goes far in Med. So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels.
I have a huge list of Facebook girls and maybe I will just do the party in the room thing. But honestly I love the real world club pickup. For reference Scandallo is a fave. I also like Sharks in Germany where obviously it's a lot more commercial but a nice place to relax and chat up your fave girl. It needn't be super luxe like Scandallo but not dicey either. What are the places like this in Med or should I stick to Facebook girls.
Although I've been a ton of places as a Medellin virgin I might enjoy a wingman with similar tastes so feel free to HMU by message. Happy to generally cover drinks or other for my wing. Spanish speakers particularly welcome tho not necessary.
I'm sure I have other questions so def contact me if you are open to helping guide my virgin ass or wing with me.I have questions about Brazil as I will be going there in late spring to early summer. Planning on SP and Rio split trip. So here's my take. If you go to The Mansion just limit your stay. The girls aren't the hottest and its good for a newbie that doesn't speak good Spanish, but you can get so much more for your buck with Facebook girls and getting girls from Fase Dos and La Isla to see you off the clock.
Gusto is super overpriced but its not too hard to haggle down the price if you're negotiating skills are good. You can find some really hot Venezuelan girls around Lleras just don't pay their 300 k asking price haggle them down to 200 k at the most.
Some good casas worth visiting: Energy Massage in Laureles and New Life in Centro.
ChuchoLoco
01-28-22, 21:20
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Some good casas worth visiting: Energy Massage in Laureles and New Life in Centro.Is Energy kinda around the corner from the Exito at La 70 and San Juan? If no, please give general or specific location as you please and rates. Are the Venezuelan girls in Lleras there at any specific hour? Thanks in advance. Have never used a casa but Energy gets mentioned a lot and a pretty Venezuelan would be nice especially if they are open to negotiating. My Spanish is decent and I know some Venezuelan history etc so it may get very interesting.
Is Energy kinda around the corner from the Exito at La 70 and San Juan? If no, please give general or specific location as you please and rates. Are the Venezuelan girls in Lleras there at any specific hour? Thanks in advance. Have never used a casa but Energy gets mentioned a lot and a pretty Venezuelan would be nice especially if they are open to negotiating. My Spanish is decent and I know some Venezuelan history etc so it may get very interesting.Just google Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles. The girls around Lleras start coming out around 10 pm just do a few blocks around lleras. I only prefer the light skin flaca Venezuelans and they usually relent to 200 k around lleras after asking for $100 USD but ymmv.
ChuchoLoco
01-28-22, 23:27
Just google Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles. The girls around Lleras start coming out around 10 pm just do a few blocks around lleras. I only prefer the light skin flaca Venezuelans and they usually relent to 200 k around lleras after asking for $100 USD but ymmv.Got it, thanks.
Mechanic88
01-28-22, 23:52
I don't recommend Haven. Yes its chica friendly the usual 1 chica per day rule as all hotels are but the staff gets a 1/2 out of 5 star service rating from me. Ask for towels good luck for them to bring it up. Manager the balding older guy is a rude douchebag and shady too. He gave me some BS reason for moving me floors that there is flooding in my room, but it was super dry. He just wanted to rent out my room at a higher price or it was just plain incompetence - either way inexcusable. So instead of complaining and getting some retaliation, I just switched hotels.
Anyways you've been warned.Interesting. What other hotel in parque lleras would you recommend?
Is Energy kinda around the corner from the Exito at La 70 and San Juan? If no, please give general or specific location as you please and rates. Are the Venezuelan girls in Lleras there at any specific hour? Thanks in advance. Have never used a casa but Energy gets mentioned a lot and a pretty Venezuelan would be nice especially if they are open to negotiating. My Spanish is decent and I know some Venezuelan history etc so it may get very interesting.Cra. 74 #101 # 49, Medellin. You could just google the address. I did and it took less than 1 minute.
I've been there and it is not very close to Exito at La 70 & San Juan. The price used to be 140 mil for 1 hour. Expect it might well be 150 mil for the hour now. Take a pencil and note pad (they absolutely will not let you take notes on your phone). They used to have about 20 girls working mid-afternoon and as they do the parade your head will spin if you try to remember the names and numbers of the girls.
Yeah only in town a few days. All my adventures are on business trips and so I am generally in a town 3-5 days. The Mansion sounds intriguing and thanks for the tip that it's Casa Blanca. I can't find shit about it on the web tho. Surely there are some pics or a website or something somewhere?
P.S. Thanks to all for the tips both here and in I'm. You guys are great.Google "Hotel M Medellin" and you will find it, or go directly to the website.
Http://hotelmedellinm.com
You can search this thread for information about the "Mansion" or you can scroll down to the user blogs and find old information in the Casa Blanca Medellin thread.
On their website you can sign up for their newsletter, which will get you information about parties and special events. If you plan to stay there, you'll want to make a reservation soon. They are usually booked up.
There are 2 locations, about 3 blocks apart. The main 1, referred to as M1, or the Mansion has a bar and pool where girls looking for customers hang out. The other building, referred to as M2 or the Castillo, is 3 blocks up the hill. It has a pool, but no bar and no girls hanging out. I believe most of the rooms have been remodeled in the past 2-3 years. Before the furniture was rather dated.
The girls who you will find there are all approved by the management. You can bring outside girls in, as long as they haven't been blacklisted by the management. Ideally, it's best to stay in M1. It's closer to restaurants and malls and it's where you'll find the girls.
Most of the other guys staying there are repeat customers and can usually give you information. Unless things have changed, they have generic Viagra and Cialis along with some other medications, available at the front desk. Any outside girl you bring in will need to be registered at the desk.
Rooms are expensive for Medellin. 332 k for a hot tub room, but it might be worth it for the convenience.
I don't recommend Haven. Yes its chica friendly the usual 1 chica per day rule as all hotels are but the staff gets a 1/2 out of 5 star service rating from me. Ask for towels good luck for them to bring it up. Manager the balding older guy is a rude douchebag and shady too. He gave me some BS reason for moving me floors that there is flooding in my room, but it was super dry. He just wanted to rent out my room at a higher price or it was just plain incompetence - either way inexcusable. So instead of complaining and getting some retaliation, I just switched hotels.
Anyways you've been warned.Excellent way to sum up this property junk, douchbag management and staff, tiny junk rooms, a friend (3rd or 4th) one just telling me about your same observation yesterday! Junk!
Mojo Bandit
01-29-22, 01:49
Just google Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles. The girls around Lleras start coming out around 10 pm just do a few blocks around lleras. I only prefer the light skin flaca Venezuelans and they usually relent to 200 k around lleras after asking for $100 USD but ymmv.You can also go to the Medellin Map made by World Travel. It is searchable also.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List&p=2656795#post2656795.
My goodness, Parque Lleras really is the Gold Coast.
Just google Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles. The girls around Lleras start coming out around 10 pm just do a few blocks around lleras. I only prefer the light skin flaca Venezuelans and they usually relent to 200 k around lleras after asking for $100 USD but ymmv.
It's normal here. I know what you meant. I'm not sure what guys who come and talk about "normal" and "semi" are imagining.
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but women who fuck foreigners for money are not 'normal girls.'
Do you have your visa sorted out or are you skipping that step?
I am purchasing at apartment and I wanted to know if anyone knew the best vendor to send 70 k usd. The online companies have limits.
All fotos new since my last foto post.
Street crowd is watching COL versus PER futbol.
Landscape is Ground Zero, in front of the Vera Cruz Church.
The most expensive meal on the cafeteria menu sign is $1.53 USD.
Chica holding $4 USD shirt regalo acted like it cost $50.
Keep On Keepin' On.
Nil Admirari
01-29-22, 14:43
Cra. 74 #101 # 49, Medellin. You could just google the address. I did and it took less than 1 minute.
I've been there and it is not very close to Exito at La 70 & San Juan. The price used to be 140 mil for 1 hour. Expect it might well be 150 mil for the hour now. Take a pencil and note pad (they absolutely will not let you take notes on your phone). They used to have about 20 girls working mid-afternoon and as they do the parade your head will spin if you try to remember the names and numbers of the girls.If (as it seems) you're staying near La 70 and feel like a walk:
Go to the large sports complex on the other side of Estadio Metro plaza.
Walk straight through the complex, keeping to the right of the main football stadium, till you come out on Cra. 74.
Go right on Cra 74 past parking lot for tennis courts.
The Spa's on the other side of Cra 74, right across from the baseball field.
About 10 minute walk from the Metro; 15-20 minutes from Exito on La 70.
Do you have your visa sorted out or are you skipping that step?Doesn't sound like he's done his homework on this, or is just starting to figure it out.
There's been quite a bit of changes within the last couple of years regarding visa's and health insurance requirements, and he may just be buying a property and figuring to only be in Medellin six months a year on a tourist visa.
If this is the case, opening a bank account and getting utility and internet services without a Cedula will be challenging.
ChuchoLoco
01-29-22, 15:48
If (as it seems) you're staying near La 70 and feel like a walk:
Go to the large sports complex on the other side of Estadio Metro plaza.
Walk straight through the complex, keeping to the right of the main football stadium, till you come out on Cra. 74.
Go right on Cra 74 past parking lot for tennis courts.
The Spa's on the other side of Cra 74, right across from the baseball field.
About 10 minute walk from the Metro; 15-20 minutes from Exito on La 70.I confused it with another that is close to the Exito and know where it is. Now. There's a gym close by and you get 3 free visits for anyone interested. At least it was that way 3 years ago. Some real model types in there keeping their bodies in tip top shape but they were as conceded as I've ever seen. By the way, if you would like to see some beauties go to the pool area at the Stadium. They have water aerobics and some doing laps. Thanks to all you guys who answered. !
ChuchoLoco
01-29-22, 18:42
This may have been discussed before but I thought I would share what I just found out from Apple Card. I asked whether or not they have any Foreign Transaction fees on Credit card purchases, not ATM, and was told that they have no foreign transaction fees. Seems like good news and the way to go if you want to charge something. Like liquor at the duty free. If anyone knows something different than this or has had first hand experience with Apple Card please advise. Just like other cards, I gave them my dates of travel.
This may have been discussed before but I thought I would share what I just found out from Apple Card. I asked whether or not they have any Foreign Transaction fees on Credit card purchases, not ATM, and was told that they have no foreign transaction fees. Just like other cards, I gave them my dates of travel.Capital One Venture has no forex fees, gives you 1. 5% back on everything, and you don't have to fucken tell them where you are going. Apple Card only gives you 1% on most purchases. Yeah, they have 3% from a few merchants and 2% if you use Apple Pay (but then you're stuck to Apple devices, which should be an illegal tying arrangement in the Yew Ess and an antitrust violation per the Sherman Act) and have to carry your expensive phone around. Maybe have both cards but Capital One is quite good and their dispute resolution process has been as well.
Alaska1986
01-29-22, 22:24
Agreed a stark contrast from tinder experience in the USA. The allure of being a foreign isn't quite what it was 20 yrs ago but in a relatively poor country with lots of young beautiful curious women with nothing to do its a gold mine especially the 22 and younger ID say. ID say if a girl is not a straight prepago or interesada and she is even slightly into you and you are paying for drinks restaurants travel etc and gives great sex and company a 400 k-500 k gift week of company is a win win situation.
I'm in Medellin and Bogota monthly and I'm going to give my 2 cents. Meeting girls on Tinder is the way to go. Many will say that is a good way to get drugged. In many years of traveling there it has never happened to me. I stay in apartments that have a porter. You just have to be smart. But you can easily meet girls on there for 200,000 pesos or less per encounter. Some of them are just looking for a foreigner to take them on trips. Show them a good time. I met a beautiful 24 year old that spent an entire week with me in Cartagena. I gave her 500,000 pesos as a gift. It was a week of wonderful amazing sex. We even hooked up with a girl at the club and took her back to the hotel and had fun. I'm not much into Street action or the strip clubs. I like to meet normal girls. And tender has been an easy way to do that.
Alaska1986
01-29-22, 22:30
ID check out some of the offerings by liv realty they are known to be guest friendly. How I usually guarantee guess friendly is by getting an apt in laureles where the key is in a lockbox outside but sounds like you want the security. Never had an issue in 7 yrs I speak Spanish. They have some offerings in buildings message them and prices are reasonable.
https://www.livrealtymedellin.com/for-rent/?sortby=price-asc
I'm going to be back in Medellin at the end of February beginning of March. If anyone has some good Laureles airbnbs or buildings they'd recommend please PM me. I am looking for potential alternatives to San Peter, where I've stayed my previous two trips. I stayed on the 15th floor last time, which wasn't bad but don't see anything on the higher floors listed for my dates at San Peter. I stayed on the 4 rth floor once as well and don't want to repeat that. In terms of another building, I would love a slightly quieter place. I'd want a doorman and good security like SP. Also, a gas vs. Electric cooktop would be a plus (though not a must). Of course girl friendly goes without saying. I'm happy to trade some fb contacts / recs over pm or in person when I'm there in exchange for any info.
I confused it with another that is close to the Exito and know where it is. Now. There's a gym close by and you get 3 free visits for anyone interested. At least it was that way 3 years ago. Some real model types in there keeping their bodies in tip top shape but they were as conceded as I've ever seen. By the way, if you would like to see some beauties go to the pool area at the Stadium. They have water aerobics and some doing laps. Thanks to all you guys who answered.Just walk around all the buildings on the east side of the stadium. You'll often find cheerleader squads practicing there. There's also quite a bit going on in the buildings. I've seen basketball, volleyball, gymnastics, karate and other competitions. There's also a smaller football stadium on the north side of the main stadium, where you can watch local games for free.
Interesting. What other hotel in parque lleras would you recommend?I've used Charlee Hotel which I really liked and Hotel Du Parc. Hotel Dix.
Since they all use the 1 girl per day rule, only metric left to use is customer service.
Elvis 2008
01-30-22, 01:18
I am purchasing at apartment and I wanted to know if anyone knew the best vendor to send 70 k usd. The online companies have limits.ML, I would space it out among agencies. Remitly allows tier 3 members to send $60,000 over a 180 day period and $30,000 over a 30 day period and they have great exchange rates. So use them then Pangea, Western Uniion, Xoom ETC.
Other thing I would consider is going through Rickerocket99's comments and seeing how he set up a bank account in Colombia. Once you have an account, I think doing a bank transfer is a piece of cake. I think Bancocolombia is the easiest place for a foreigner to get a bank account.
Steve 9696
01-30-22, 01:33
Just google Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles. The girls around Lleras start coming out around 10 pm just do a few blocks around lleras. I only prefer the light skin flaca Venezuelans and they usually relent to 200 k around lleras after asking for $100 USD but ymmv.Ok starting to get the lay of the land. Thanks.
I don't have to work during my 3 days in Medellin so I'm thinking brunch and midday fuck and evening at bars and night fuck. That's probably good for me. Three might be pushing it esp since going to Brazil next. So a few questions.
I will prob stay in Poblado. In SP there are CLnicas for day activity. Is that the idea with places like Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles?
And evenings obv I could Las Isl or the like with proper caveat emptor or bring Facebook girls to my room more likely. I'the really like to perhaps find a wingman to hit the bars and chat up girls but eventually bring back for the night I think. Any and all advice welcome.
Oh and since MDE is so cheap I will prob want to take two girls a few times. When I hear the “one girl” hotel rule what does that mean? Can I pay extra for the third girl? Or just book a three person room ? Or is it seriously one girl limit?
Ok starting to get the lay of the land. Thanks.
I don't have to work during my 3 days in Medellin so I'm thinking brunch and midday fuck and evening at bars and night fuck. That's probably good for me. Three might be pushing it esp since going to Brazil next. So a few questions.
I will prob stay in Poblado. In SP there are CLnicas for day activity. Is that the idea with places like Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles?
And evenings obv I could Las Isl or the like with proper caveat emptor or bring Facebook girls to my room more likely. I'the really like to perhaps find a wingman to hit the bars and chat up girls but eventually bring back for the night I think. Any and all advice welcome.
Oh and since MDE is so cheap I will prob want to take two girls a few times. When I hear the one girl hotel rule what does that mean? Can I pay extra for the third girl? Or just book a three person room ? Or is it seriously one girl limit?First girl is free no charge. After that the hotel will charge around 50 k to 90 k each additional. Energy Spa is about a 15-20 minute ride from Poblado so just plan for that during the day.
Ok starting to get the lay of the land. Thanks.
I don't have to work during my 3 days in Medellin so I'm thinking brunch and midday fuck and evening at bars and night fuck. That's probably good for me. Three might be pushing it esp since going to Brazil next. So a few questions.
I will prob stay in Poblado. In SP there are CLnicas for day activity. Is that the idea with places like Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles?
And evenings obv I could Las Isl or the like with proper caveat emptor or bring Facebook girls to my room more likely. I'the really like to perhaps find a wingman to hit the bars and chat up girls but eventually bring back for the night I think. Any and all advice welcome.Yes Energy spa and most of the casas are open daytime until 7 or 8 pm. They are hit or miss.
It depends on the girl, but most Facebook girls will be happy to meet for brunch or to go out clubbing. Just clarify your plans with the girls. In my experience, most will be happy to go out drinking and dancing and then spend a few hours in the room with you, without extra charges.
Having 2 girls at once in Medellin can be disappointing. Many of them will treat it like a tag team wrestling match. One will be sitting out of reach, on her phone while the other services you. Then they will switch. Be specific with what you expect before agreeing to anything.
For threesomes I have usually used Motel Ibiza. Adding the extra person and a few items from the mini bar, it will cost about 120 k for 6 hours. There's a jacuzzi big enough for 3, a sex chair, a stripper pole, a nice stereo, sound system, a couch, an awesome shower and a well stocked mini bar. There's also a full restaurant and sex shop available. You can order steak with furry handcuffs and a double dildo for the girls.
There are advantages to using a nice love motel. You don't have to worry about the stuff in your room. You don't have to worry about noise complaints. Plus, I'd you have already had a girl in your room, it costs about the same.
Along with the exchange rate. Gas is 2 mil COP more per liter but I don't buy it. My chicas are telling me across the board rent is up 150 mil COP per month, from a baseline of around 500 +/- 100 mil COP. Oil was 8 now 12. Servicios (utilities) average went up from 130 to 153 per month. All in the past couple of months. The bus ride from the airport used to be 10 mil COP now it's 13. I am here to tell you the bottom baseline at Ground Zero has gone up from 30 to 40 mil COP. Other opinions welcome and wanted. I am not sure what is going on.
Lucky Nuts
01-30-22, 07:37
Ok starting to get the lay of the land. Thanks.
I don't have to work during my 3 days in Medellin so I'm thinking brunch and midday fuck and evening at bars and night fuck. That's probably good for me. Three might be pushing it esp since going to Brazil next. So a few questions.
I will prob stay in Poblado. In SP there are CLnicas for day activity. Is that the idea with places like Spa Fantasias Energy Laureles?
And evenings obv I could Las Isl or the like with proper caveat emptor or bring Facebook girls to my room more likely. I'the really like to perhaps find a wingman to hit the bars and chat up girls but eventually bring back for the night I think. Any and all advice welcome.
Oh and since MDE is so cheap I will prob want to take two girls a few times. When I hear the one girl hotel rule what does that mean? Can I pay extra for the third girl? Or just book a three person room ? Or is it seriously one girl limit?The facebook chicas love to visit Poblado early to mid-afternoon and be on their way home before the heavy evening traffic. There are massage parlors in Poblado but no brothels afaik. You will need to take an Uber or taxi to Laureles or el cento for that as far as I know. Cheap and easy depending on traffic. Just FYI if you are a flaca hunter like many of us it's hard to find them at Energy anymore or other casas in el centro. If you like regular or curvy chicas you will have no problem finding them. I haven't kept up with all the posts Steve but you should definitely make an afternoon run up to Loutron just to check that box. Again you will have no problem finding a good target unless you are a flaca hunter.
The FB chicas also like visiting 9 o 10 PM when it's easy to get back and forth from their homes to / from Poblado.
The latest weird, wonderful and wacky thing that has worked its way into my journey is the Web cam model Caribe. She works nights and gets off at six AM. She is a sex machine. For the last five days or so, she writes me near the end of her shift and tells me she has "an orgasm that needs to come out. " She's not kidding. Unlike half my girls who I can't even be sure if they had a climax, Caribe moans, convulses, I don't know what to call the sounds that come out of her mouth, and then collapses for a couple of minutes. I think she gets turned on at work from all the edging and then comes over to see me to finish the dirty deed. Very powerful and a total turn on. She doesn't want money for sex and calls me her boyfriend. She mentioned bills or rent to pay a couple of times and I gave her a "regalo" the other morning of 100 mil COP.
Starting my fucking, sucking and licking the past few days at 7 AM instead of early afternoon is taking a toll. I woke up tonight with Spanish Teacher next to me in bed and she said (in English), "You have been sleeping for an hour and 45 minutes". Hmmm. She didn't charge me any extra for the time and like I mentioned before, Spanish Teacher is also a good pupil, and my best blowjob girl keeps getting better. Ostee Out.
MateoCast98
01-30-22, 09:07
For me if a girl says "no kissing" it's an instant turn down. I don't care how hot she is. Just turned down a smoke show at gustos. It's was 200 $ (ik ik, I don't really care about the money). I was willing to pay. I asked her if kissing she said no. I said alright thanks, I had bought her a drink at that point and was grinding on her. She started back peddling, it was about 2:45 am (they close at 4 am). I know from experience once a girl says no kissing even if you pay extra or convince them, it s a half-assed attempt and they'll do it for 1 minute then turn away. I need to kiss while I'm pumping in mish, that's the only way I finish. I want to know what your "nope" is?
Agreed a stark contrast from tinder experience in the USA. The allure of being a foreign isn't quite what it was 20 yrs ago but in a relatively poor country with lots of young beautiful curious women with nothing to do its a gold mine especially the 22 and younger ID say. ID say if a girl is not a straight prepago or interesada and she is even slightly into you and you are paying for drinks restaurants travel etc and gives great sex and company a 400 k-500 k gift week of company is a win win situation.I should be so lucky.
Just a quick post, just left Medellin after five months and want to say the casa prices are holding steady to what's on the list. I stayed pretty much to the El Centro area and things are running pretty much the way they always have though everyone seems to be sick at the moment and since before Christmas. Combo of Flu, Gripe and Omnicrom seem to be going around. Haven't heard of anyone getting really sick and of course the girls are not taking time off if they are sick so be prepared to probably pick up something. Stiff dicks have no conscious so all the guy's I knew there including myself had a about of something. Now in Mx. And missing my daily casa runs. Now in Puerto Vallarta and all the older Gringas are rather nauseating. Anyone have any tips for over in this part of Mx. Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Steve 9696
01-30-22, 14:30
The facebook chicas love to visit Poblado early to mid-afternoon and be on their way home before the heavy evening traffic. There are massage parlors in Poblado but no brothels afaik. You will need to take an Uber or taxi to Laureles or el cento for that as far as I know. Cheap and easy depending on traffic. Just FYI if you are a flaca hunter like many of us it's hard to find them at Energy anymore or other casas in el centro. If you like regular or curvy chicas you will have no problem finding them. I haven't kept up with all the posts Steve but you should definitely make an afternoon run up to Loutron just to check that box. Again you will have no problem finding a good target unless you are a flaca hunter.
The FB chicas also like visiting 9 o 10 PM when it's easy to get back and forth from their homes to / from Poblado.Thanks man. This is great info. I am completely a FACE and tits man so I can work with a wide variety of body types and can even do a fatty when required tho surely not required and therefore not happening in Colombia. I def don't like the silly cones but can tolerate a well done one where they had something to start with and the girly stuff is on top.
Anyhow I do not think I will have a problem finding a ton of girls I like as I am a face guy and my face aesthetic skews towards latinas to begin with! Only problem is deciding. I like that problem! Target rich!
That doesn't seem fair. Some of those hotel rooms cost 300,000 pesos or more.
First girl is free no charge. After that the hotel will charge around 50 k to 90 k each additional. Energy Spa is about a 15-20 minute ride from Poblado so just plan for that during the day.
ML, I would space it out among agencies. Remitly allows tier 3 members to send $60,000 over a 180 day period and $30,000 over a 30 day period and they have great exchange rates. So use them then Pangea, Western Uniion, Xoom ETC.
Other thing I would consider is going through Rickerocket99's comments and seeing how he set up a bank account in Colombia. Once you have an account, I think doing a bank transfer is a piece of cake. I think Bancocolombia is the easiest place for a foreigner to get a bank account.Just a couple of notes here, for a guy bringing in a bit of money, like 70 K, he would be better pressed to set up an account with Alianza and bring the monies into the Country, because the exchange rate will be much more favorable than the other providers you mentioned.
As far as it being easy to transfer funds from a USA bank to a Colombian bank, the limits are quite low, I know that at Wells Fargo, you just can't walk in and automatically deposit a sum of like $ 70 k directly into a Bancolombia account, and for anyone bringing this amount of money in, it should be recorded / reported as required in Colombia, or when a guy wants to pull the money out of the Country, it may be a problem getting it out with out back-up information, proof, of money being brought into the Country.
What do you think of the way they enclosed the park with this black fencing? Do you think it makes the park more or less safe?
I can see it both ways, more safe from improved crowd control flow. Less safe because you are more trapped. What do you think? See photo.
Purrfekt weather today, warm, mostly sunny. My friends back in the states are buried in snow.
Mechanic88
01-30-22, 18:04
I've used Charlee Hotel which I really liked and Hotel Du Parc. Hotel Dix.
Since they all use the 1 girl per day rule, only metric left to use is customer service.Would I be able to pay extra and take a third?
ChuchoLoco
01-30-22, 18:35
What do you think of the way they enclosed the park with this black fencing? Do you think it makes the park more or less safe?
I can see it both ways, more safe from improved crowd control flow. Less safe because you are more trapped. What do you think? See photo.
Purrfekt weather today, warm, mostly sunny. My friends back in the states are buried in snow.Would rather have the police or public forces around perimeter. Fencing makes it a trap.
Snow and cold all over the USA. Must be tough in perfect weather. But looks like you make the best of such a tough situation. Sunny and warm with lots of women can't be easy. Ill come down and help soon.
I am here to tell you the bottom baseline at Ground Zero has gone up from 30 to 40 mil COP. Other opinions welcome and wanted. I am not sure what is going on.The pricing is a moving target, more so for the foreigners, versus the locals.
Lot's of the locals approach the girls, and just tell them what they are willing to pay, and the locals are typically quoting less than 30 mil COP.
A local will walk up to a girl, talk a bit, and then if he walks away, it's been a failed negotiation, meaning the girl didn't accept the offer.
We both know how variable things can be there, especially depending on how badly the girl needs the money when approached.
Steve 9696
01-30-22, 18:47
Would I be able to pay extra and take a third?From what I gather if you book a double then one girl is fine. The Charlee charges 145 K for another girl, which seems quite high but it is a 4. 5 ish five star and they usually are high on everything. They address this in their FAQ. It's a frequently asked question. LOL.
ChuchoLoco
01-30-22, 18:55
I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks!
How much the facebook girls charges in Medellin.
What is approx allowances for SA girls.
How much the facebook girls charges in Medellin.
What is approx allowances for SA girls.Whatever they ask for. Read the forum and you'll find out the range.
That doesn't seem fair. Some of those hotel rooms cost 300,000 pesos or more.It doesn't seem fair? That's hilarious.
It's nothing to do with what it costs them. It is all about the fact that they want to discourage that kind of business. Many, if not most, have big signs and posters about stopping sex tourism. So I guess the compromise is that they will look the other way for a fee.
From what I gather if you book a double then one girl is fine. The Charlee charges 145 K for another girl, which seems quite high but it is a 4. 5 ish five star and they usually are high on everything. They address this in their FAQ. It's a frequently asked question. LOL.Your SA girl would be on cloud 9 at the Charlee. She may fancy her chances of going to Cancun with you.
...Snow and cold all over the USA. Must be tough in perfect weather. But looks like you make the best of such a tough situation. Sunny and warm with lots of women can't be easy. Ill come down and help soon.I live in California and we've been enjoying Spring weather here practically throughout this month.
...I know from experience once a girl says no kissing even if you pay extra or convince them, it s a half-assed attempt and they'll do it for 1 minute then turn away. I need to kiss while I'm pumping in mish, that's the only way I finish. I want to know what your "nope" is?Yes, it's been my experience too. Once she says no kissing and then changes her mind, you are likely to get chitty kissing for a few seconds. Better to look For another girl.
I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks!I'm big into facts. So, one place to see for yourself what is happening is Worldometer. Scroll down the Colombia which will be #13 on the list and click on the country info.
Here is what I recall seeing. For several months (mid August to mid December) new cases were running between 1,000 and 3,000 per day. Right around the last week of December new cases started rising precipitously.
Daily cases were spiking at or above 30,000 per day but are tailing off now and we're seeing daily cases under 20,000 the last few days. Deaths were running at about 40 per day but after the climb in cases, deaths have been running between 200 and 300 per day. You can put this all in perspective. Colombia has a population of about 52 million.
Colombia is not a very conspiracy theory kind of place. The 1 or more vaccination count is at 79% and the fully vaccinated number is 62% (as of Jan. 27th).
Almost all restaurants are open in Laureles. At this time there are no odd and even day restrictions like there were 6 or 7 months ago. My only suggestion is follow the laws in Colombia.
I think the entry requirements have been discussed many times. In a nutshell have your vaccinations before coming and be prepared to show your vaccination card (and a negative test if your 2nd vaccination is less than some number of days old).
I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks!Take away the masks and right now you wouldn't even know there was a Covid, except that a lot of people seem to have a cold, which I believe to be Covid variant that does not test positive. Whut, whut? Oh sorry, you said just the facts. I tried.
For me if a girl says "no kissing" it's an instant turn down. I don't care how hot she is. Just turned down a smoke show at gustos. It's was 200 $ (ik ik, I don't really care about the money). I was willing to pay. I asked her if kissing she said no. I said alright thanks, I had bought her a drink at that point and was grinding on her. She started back peddling, it was about 2:45 am (they close at 4 am). I know from experience once a girl says no kissing even if you pay extra or convince them, it s a half-assed attempt and they'll do it for 1 minute then turn away. I need to kiss while I'm pumping in mish, that's the only way I finish. I want to know what your "nope" is?I kissed right on the spot 95% of the time in the club after kissing is agreed to. If I get a half-ass kiss, I don't take her. In rare occasions, a girl will give me a reasonable excuse why they don't do it on the spot and I will accept that if I really like her, they do deliver as agreed in the room.
Steve 9696
01-30-22, 21:33
I kissed right on the spot 95% of the time in the club after kissing is agreed to. If I get a half-ass kiss, I don't take her. In rare occasions, a girl will give me a reasonable excuse why they don't do it on the spot and I will accept that if I really like her, they do deliver as agreed in the room.Doh. So in Med I need to negotiate kissing? I've never done that in Brazil. I always just go to the room only having negotiate price. I've gotten a CBJ once which was a total surprise. But always kissing. Always. And of 10 girls I saw my last visit in SP 7 did CIM and 5 swallowed. No discussion. Just organic. I guess that's one reason I love Brasil. So In Med I need to specify services ahead?
I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks!What you heard from the other poster is accurate, at least in Medellin.
Everything in Medellin is wide open all across town as though there was no Pandemic, no restrictions, except lots of eating places will want to see your vax card, and everyone is required to wear a mask outside and in all indoor venues.
And of course all your contacts are telling you everything is good and to come down, things are good, and of course things will be even better for them if they get to session with you.
Doh. So in Med I need to negotiate kissing? I've never done that in Brazil. I always just go to the room only having negotiate price. ...That is why Brazil is great in this aspect.
I think it is a YMMV situation, for me places like Energy, Loutron, or casas that are popular with foreigners, my experience is probably no kissing or no BBBJ if it is not agreed to before. FB girls are GFE by default. You probably will need to check at La Isla too unless you are already kissing. I had met one that just stood up and walked away at the mention of kissing alone. LOL.
RiceRocket99
01-30-22, 22:25
Piece of advice coming from my experience in recently buying an apartment 6 months ago.
-Hire a reputable and bilingual lawyer that has experience dealing with foreigner real estate investment.
-Open a Colombian investment account, not a regular bank account, go with Alianza or Acciones / Valores. They have US-based bank affiliates, so you can make transfer directly from your US bank to their US bank. They will convert the money to Colombian currency once you are ready to buy. Their exchange rates are fair and reasonable. You can open an account with them with just a passport and they have bilingual service. You must register the transfer funds with the Colombian government / central bank (Banco de la Republica), I think within 24 hours of the wire transfer for the exact amount of the apartment purchase price. If you don't, you will not be able to get the money out of Colombia if you end up selling the apartment later on. You can also be taxed / fined for not registering the funds as well.
-You can open a regular Colombian bank account (Bancolombia) with just a passport and proof of apartment purchase / ownership. Go to the branch inside Santa Fe mall since they have experience dealing with foreigners. The only thing I couldn't open on my own without a Colombian cedula or cedula de extranjera was Internet service. I had to use name and cedula of one amiga for that. Kinda sucks, but oh well.
On a side note, I'm back in the good ol' USA. But not for long, returning to MDE in 3 weeks and will spend more time in the barrios. Last trip, I reconnected with SA girl I've known for a few years who lives in Barrio Popular, way up in the hills and far from gringo civilization hehe. She's the only paisa I know that can speak fluent English and Chinese (Mandarin). She's trying to climb up the Colombian economic ladder, and has travelled to Europe for work. For being 22 yrs old, not too shabby. I've visited her barrio both day and night. Being a chino, I def stood out and people were looking at me like is this chino lost, someone take his ass back to Poblado hehe. The people were friendly and even had groups of kids running up to me like I'm Bruce Lee incarnate. Told them my uncle is Jackie Chan haha.
ML, I would space it out among agencies. Remitly allows tier 3 members to send $60,000 over a 180 day period and $30,000 over a 30 day period and they have great exchange rates. So use them then Pangea, Western Uniion, Xoom ETC.
Other thing I would consider is going through Rickerocket99's comments and seeing how he set up a bank account in Colombia. Once you have an account, I think doing a bank transfer is a piece of cake. I think Bancocolombia is the easiest place for a foreigner to get a bank account.
Antonio2019
01-30-22, 23:13
Valuable info, thanks for share.
I'm not much of a poster, but the information here really helped me, so I want to give out the info that I have accumulated this past month. First off, I came on the first of January and just took a taxi because I was tired as shit and paid 90 k. I didn't speak more than 5 words in Spanish, so I recommend a few apps preloaded. 1. is sayhi by amazon which I enjoyed when talking to the girls but required internet and 2. Is of course google translate when you got no internet and need to say shit at a snail's pace. Regarding hotels, I moved between Leblon suites hotel and Estelar apartments Medellin. For both I recommend to book for two people then even though you bring different people they never charge the guests (at least in my experience). During my stay I hung out with a couple of ISG guys, and they were great guys and showed me great things. So, I recommend you try to make some friends here which if anyone is coming into Medellin or is here message me and we can meet up because I am in Medellin till the end of February.
The internet Chicas:
In my experience Medellin is a place that can make any man happy, you just have to know what you like. Me as the ISG boys would say am a sentimental * and so I came in with my shit ready. I added up a lot of Facebook girls' weeks before coming as well as started tinder Platinum for that non pro experience. Facebook girls is once again based on what you want. I like to make an hour session into a 3 hour or an overnight stay. So, I try to go with girls who seem less pro and always smoked weed with them to get them to relax, not to mention the better sex. Tinder girls on the other hand is an interesting game to play which I enjoyed because I am too much of a * to talk to girl in real life with just a translator. I am 30 so I think that helped me with getting matches as well as the premium. I was honest with them about my language skills but told them half-truths of what I was looking for..
That is why Brazil is great in this aspect.
I think it is a YMMV situation, for me places like Energy, Loutron, or casas that are popular with foreigners, my experience is probably no kissing or no BBBJ if it is not agreed to before. FB girls are GFE by default. You probably will need to check at La Isla too unless you are already kissing. I had met one that just stood up and walked away at the mention of kissing alone. LOL.I'm in Medellin right now! I fuck only Facebook Girls! And they're all great till now! They kiss me like their own boyfriend and they even accept bareback with me! For bareback they ask extra but it's not a problem for me!
Marrowbone68
01-31-22, 02:29
I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks!1) Everywhere is open, though a few places closed down during the pandemic and never reopened.
2) In the streets 50% wear masks over nose and mouth, 40% under chin, maybe 10% no mask.
3) In shops, shopping centres, transport etc 100% masks.
4) in clubs bars restaurants no masks.
5) I've noticed a fair number of people going about their daily lives with mild coughs etc, and most people seek relaxed about this. I am not sure to what extent people are just relaxed about omicron and to what extent they don't realize these are omicron symptoms. I've asked a few people and the got both replies.
6) Some places ask for vaccination certificates, some don't. Not a lot of rhyme or reason to which do from what I can see.
I'd head down. You can do pretty well everything you could before the pandemic, lots of people out having fun, both normal and mongering.
I am trying to build a network of girls on Facebook. Would appreciate if someone can give one or two links to add. I have tried searching but they are not really good.
PunkedLife
01-31-22, 05:39
Whatever they ask for. Read the forum and you'll find out the range.I had one girl tell me she gets 300-400 USD for videollamada. I am sure you can imagine how the conversation went when I mentioned yo siempre pago 200 l mil pesos why mas por taxi por unos horas etc. Those are the ones who are being spoiled by s1 mps because I actually do believe someone is paying those prices to see a moderately attractive woman naked on cam. I've been on cam sites and see what guys are paying these below average looking girls. It seems they are super entitled on SA though. Had one tell me respete and immediately block me because I called her mami. You will probably pay more than what you pay facebook chicas on SA. Guess I'll have to RTFF because this is new territory for me. Good thing I have a month to do so. Anyone want to make my life a lttle easier can hit my DMs. I haven't really gotten around to quoting any prices with the majority of the ones I am speaking to on SA. I am focusing on just trying to play the lets get a cup of coffee and get to know each other route. I am sure when it comes time to actually make these appointments they will start to be a little more specific on what they want. Some do come out right away and state they are looking for x. Most just say friends with mutual benefits and leave it at that. I am juggling so many that I haven't really gotten into details with most I am speaking to.
Alaska1986
01-31-22, 05:49
Depends on your negotiating skills and the girls need.
Generally you can get them to stay with you for "un rato" meaning as long as she wants to stay typically 2-4 hrs etc for 250 k, all night is typically 400 k. You can take them out to dinner or do what you want just negotiate it all up front kissing, leches etc. Prices can go down or up from there depending on the girl. The seasoned ones, or the ones that do work in panama will likely charge more but there are way too many fish in the sea to be paying more. There is also tinder and Colombian cupid with a similar but different stock of prepagos.
How much the facebook girls charges in Medellin.
What is approx allowances for SA girls.
Lucky Nuts
01-31-22, 06:59
Doh. So in Med I need to negotiate kissing? I've never done that in Brazil. I always just go to the room only having negotiate price. I've gotten a CBJ once which was a total surprise. But always kissing. Always. And of 10 girls I saw my last visit in SP 7 did CIM and 5 swallowed. No discussion. Just organic. I guess that's one reason I love Brasil. So In Med I need to specify services ahead?Medellin is several thousand miles from Sao Paulo. Why would you think what is customary in Brazil is the same in Colombia? Don't expect kissing in La Isla or any other casas or brothels or el centro bars. You might get kissing with Facebook chicas. Best to ask (or tell) before making the deal of time / money.
I'm big into facts. So, one place to see for yourself what is happening is Worldometer. Scroll down the Colombia which will be #13 on the list and click on the country info.
Here is what I recall seeing. For several months (mid August to mid December) new cases were running between 1,000 and 3,000 per day. Right around the last week of December new cases started rising precipitously.
Daily cases were spiking at or above 30,000 per day but are tailing off now and we're seeing daily cases under 20,000 the last few days. Deaths were running at about 40 per day but after the climb in cases, deaths have been running between 200 and 300 per day. You can put this all in perspective. Colombia has a population of about 52 million.
Colombia is not a very conspiracy theory kind of place. The 1 or more vaccination count is at 79% and the fully vaccinated number is 62% (as of Jan. 27th).
Almost all restaurants are open in Laureles. At this time there are no odd and even day restrictions like there were 6 or 7 months ago. My only suggestion is follow the laws in Colombia.
I think the entry requirements have been discussed many times. In a nutshell have your vaccinations before coming and be prepared to show your vaccination card (and a negative test if your 2nd vaccination is less than some number of days old).I like facts too: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/biweekly-covid-cases-per-million-people.
How much the facebook girls charges in Medellin.
What is approx allowances for SA girls.Don't ask the SA or FB chicas how much they charge. Tell them what you pay. Don't pay more than 200 mil y 50 mil taxi unless you request bareback.
Sunday, everyone deserves a day off. Tell that to mi polla. Did some last minute scrounging. Pumpkin is turning out to be a real gem and she may end up with a ranked number in my Top Ten although so far she has told me she doesn't want one. For those of you who follow, she was a random 30 mil COP random Ground Zero Vennie find. Hawt as fuk. The first two times we balled in Love Motels off of Vera Cruz Church I let her Trans BFF tag along as a confidence builder. They had been best friends since the age of five. She lives equi-walking-distance from where I am staying at The Nutti and Ground Zero. I call it the Purrfekt Triangle. I called her today, Sunday and she was knocking on my door in 20 minutes. She's got one small kid. Mom lives with her, too. Cesarean section scar so the outlet tract has never been stretched but these Vennies snap back like no chicas I have seen anywhere else in the world. Always a pleasure with Pumpkin. A very satisfying 2 hour session. I let her talk me up from 80 to 90 mil COP. No Taxi, she walks. No Tip, feels like I did something little extra nice for her but for the life of me I can't remember what it was. Drogadas, plus it doesn't matter. Synergy.
Medellin is several thousand miles from Sao Paulo. Why would you think what is customary in Brazil is the same in Colombia? Don't expect kissing in La Isla or any other casas or brothels or el centro bars. You might get kissing with Facebook chicas. Best to ask (or tell) before making the deal of time / money.
I like facts too: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/biweekly-covid-cases-per-million-people.
Don't ask the SA or FB chicas how much they charge. Tell them what you pay. Don't pay more than 200 mil y 50 mil taxi unless you request bareback.Thanks for clearing some of the doubts about Medellin. It will certainly be useful. For me also Kissing is very important. Hence, I should always ask and make sure whether I am going to get it or not.
Would I be able to pay extra and take a third?That would depend on the hotel, or apartment security.
I just read a post from a guy who has been in Colombia maybe Medellin for past 5 months. He said lots of gripe or omicron etc but mostly mild cases and all his buddies have gotten sick sooner or later since the girls work no matter if sick or not. My contacts there, all Paisas, say everything is good come down. So what really gives and are most restaurants open, especially in Laureles? Any other advice about situation is welcomed but no political or philosophical rants, just the facts ma'am. Thanks!Quite a few of the girls I regularly talk to have been sick recently, only mild illness, out of commission for a few days.
Restaurants should mostly be open in Laureles, along with bars and stores. The only potential problem which could crop up is if the hospitals exceed capacity. I saw a recent article saying ICU beds in Medellin were 96% full and hospital beds were 85% full. Curfews, quarantines and lockdowns are determined by hospital available beds. However, case numbers have been dropping, so it's probably nothing to worry about.
Doh. So in Med I need to negotiate kissing? I've never done that in Brazil. I always just go to the room only having negotiate price. I've gotten a CBJ once which was a total surprise. But always kissing. Always. And of 10 girls I saw my last visit in SP 7 did CIM and 5 swallowed. No discussion. Just organic. I guess that's one reason I love Brasil. So In Med I need to specify services ahead?Not necessarily. With Facebook girls kissing is almost always part of the package, at least in my experience. BBBJ has also been the standard for me. A few girls will get in position and ask if I want the condom. I always tell them it's not important, and most go with the BBBJ.
Why would you think what is customary in Brazil is the same in Colombia?Somebody who should know told me Facebook is the dominant mongering social media in Medellin, and Tinder dominates in Bogota. I wouldn't know but if true, it's a good example.
Nil Admirari
01-31-22, 15:03
Medellin is several thousand miles from Sao Paulo. Why would you think what is customary in Brazil is the same in Colombia? Don't expect kissing in La Isla or any other casas or brothels or el centro bars. You might get kissing with Facebook chicas. Best to ask (or tell) before making the deal of time / money.Lucky Nuts, In your response to Steve9696 you've inadvertently drifted into YMMV territory. Admittedly an exception, but just a week ago I received enthusiastic GFE from a chica at Fase II (including DFK and BBBJ without an upcharge or offering a propina (tip). True, night club ladies frequently decline kissing or mamada natural, but, that said, I've negotiated these extras on a numbr of occasions at Luna Lunera, San Diego, and Conejitos by simply offering a good tip for GFE service (and the possibility of follow-up visits at my apartment). In the casas I've almost always been able to get agreement to DFK / BBBJ up front, sometimes for nothing extra; more often for an upcharge or a propina. Eros Spa (Carrera 81 a # 34 a-15, Apt 301) actually has a list of up-charges (including BBBJ and anal) posted on the wall. Per my previous posts, at the casas I've always been able to interview my chica of choice to confirm full GFE service before agreeing to take her to bed.
No doubt other BMs have had comparable experience in securing kissing and blow jobs au natural at the local chica hunting grounds.
Steve 9696
01-31-22, 15:31
That is why Brazil is great in this aspect.
I think it is a YMMV situation, for me places like Energy, Loutron, or casas that are popular with foreigners, my experience is probably no kissing or no BBBJ if it is not agreed to before. FB girls are GFE by default. You probably will need to check at La Isla too unless you are already kissing. I had met one that just stood up and walked away at the mention of kissing alone. LOL.Thanks. Hey Nounce can you clear your inbox? I'the like to chat a bit since you have done both Brasil and Medellin.
I notice new openings in the fence every couple of weeks or so. There is still enough of a fence left to control the flow of the crowds but it is no longer as intact as it once was. I think you will see it gradually continue to go away.
Would rather have the police or public forces around perimeter. Fencing makes it a trap.
Snow and cold all over the USA. Must be tough in perfect weather. But looks like you make the best of such a tough situation. Sunny and warm with lots of women can't be easy. Ill come down and help soon.
MateoCast98
01-31-22, 17:35
Yes, it's been my experience too. Once she says no kissing and then changes her mind, you are likely to get chitty kissing for a few seconds. Better to look For another girl.I would say 90% of the time you can just get it. But I ask just in case, it's a mood killer later on if she won't.
ChuchoLoco
01-31-22, 17:40
Quite a few of the girls I regularly talk to have been sick recently, only mild illness, out of commission for a few days.
Restaurants should mostly be open in Laureles, along with bars and stores. The only potential problem which could crop up is if the hospitals exceed capacity. I saw a recent article saying ICU beds in Medellin were 96% full and hospital beds were 85% full. Curfews, quarantines and lockdowns are determined by hospital available beds. However, case numbers have been dropping, so it's probably nothing to worry about.Thanks JB, perfect report, now I have a good feel what to expect but will keep. My guard up without being paranoid.
I did a world wind trip for 3 days to Medellin.
Based on the group talk. Suggestion was to stay at Du Pac Hotel, location was great location but didn't realize that some of the rooms don't have windows in the room which sucked but again it was only for 3 days trip and I dealt with it. They do charge extra for the girl but they do extra check and cleaned my room 2 times a day.
I did prep work a week beforehand with Tinder and SA search got lots of leads and took probably great deal of time to research once I had the info and used whatsapp to communicate. SA was most success for me. Tinder I would need more time to be in Medellin.
Plan was 3 girls per day spaced them 4 hours apart just incase of delay.
First day first girl was great 19 yrs old and cost was around 300,000 pesos.
2nd girl was another 19 and as soon as we start making out per pussy smelled, oh hell no, stopped and threw her out gave her uber money nothing else. She wanted to wash and so on. Nope if your pussy smells multi reason didn't want to take chance.
3rd girl was 26 yr old awesome body all modified ass and breasts but she was the best of the bunch.
2nd day I was down 1 and needed to make up for it.
1st place I went to was massage place that was on the google map.
Price to get in was 120,000 pesos per hour and 50,000 to girl direct for BBBJ.
Next girl was 2 hours later at the hotel and she must have eaten more during covid her ass was firm but not tiny like others. Damage 300,000 pesos.
3rd girl was I could say midget but oh well my screw up should have looked at her measurements but still tiny and decent enough of a job cost 300,000 pesos.
4th girl well got the same girl from the prior night. I got her drunk so much the first night I didn't pay her other than uber fee so gave her some extra cash the 2nd night.
3rd day day just got a massage and flew out until next trip.
All the girls was BBFS and only 1 allowed me to CIP.
I notice new openings in the fence every couple of weeks or so. There is still enough of a fence left to control the flow of the crowds but it is no longer as intact as it once was. I think you will see it gradually continue to go away.I've noticed the same thing, more and more openings seem to appear every few weeks.
I've noticed the same thing, more and more openings seem to appear every few weeks.I wonder WTF "they" are thinking, meaning whoever it is making the calls where to put the gaps in the fence.
Four consecutive girls saw me and did not expect to get paid. The Web cam model has been here 3 out of the past 5 mornings after her night shift. Surprisingly, considering her line of work, she is the most camera shy girl I am seeing right now. I think it is some sort of overcompensation behavior as she also takes Risperdal for paranoid schizophrenia. Like my dad taught me (RIP), the crazier the chica the better she fucks. I am second generation monger and I learned from one of the best. She has started talking about some much needed dental work so I know what's coming and I will probably help her with a gift. We all pay in the end, one way or another.
Two girls from my Top Ten line-up met at random in my hotel room yesterday for the first time. Purrfekt Piel is over five months pregnant and Amazonia just delivered a baby two weeks ago. Amazonia came over to fulfill a fantasy she repeatedly mentioned throughout her pregnancy, to get fucked while holding the baby. But after Purrfekt showed up you can imagine they had a lot to talk about.
Amazonia left first and I gave her 100 mil COP for diapers. Purrfekt was already here having fucked another client at The Nutti. She told me I could have sloppy seconds freebie as a friend. We were fucking five minutes after Amazonia left and it was great. I don't remember Purrfekt having an orgasm with me in the past year and this time she had four and she actually put down her cell phone. Talking about and playing with Amazonia's baby got her all juiced up.
Then, later in the evening one of my faves Super Groovy showed up on my doorstep saying she was in the neighborhood and wanted to see me for free. She Whassaped me from the front steps of the Nutti and was knocking on my door within one minute of her call. She stayed a little over an hour. After a great session she called EnDriver. I gave her 40 mil COP and one of the six mini-Blue-Tooth speakers I bought for regalos for my chicas, but she wasn't expecting anything.
Obviously I would love to see this trend continue but I don't believe it will. Still, all in all a very strange coincidence, or was it?
Fotos. Reclining nude is Purrfekt Piel on year ago to the day obviously before she was pregnant. No tats and no peircings, hence her moniker. Also, she has a damn near pufffekt figure. Chica in the lime yellow short set is the first new girl I fucked in a week or so. Great little spinner who had a few too many rules including very camera shy, but she left me a lot to work with and tapped out after her fourth or fifth orgasm. The green drink at breakfast is LuLu, made from and indigenous Colombian fruit, lime and water. Lightly sweet with a melony flavor and a bit of tang. I like it. Next, Purrfekt in the shower after sex cleaning the goop out of her pregnant, multi-orgasmed pussy. Finally Purrfekt and Amazonia engrossed in baby talk.
Four consecutive girls saw me and did not expect to get paid. The Web cam model has been here 3 out of the past 5 mornings after her night shift. Surprisingly, considering her line of work, she is the most camera shy girl I am seeing right now. I think it is some sort of overcompensation behavior as she also takes Risperdal for paranoid schizophrenia. Like my dad taught me (RIP), the crazier the chica the better she fucks. I am second generation monger and I learned from one of the best. She has started talking about some much needed dental work so I know what's coming and I will probably help her with a gift. We all pay in the end, one way or another.
Two girls from my Top Ten line-up met at random in my hotel room yesterday for the first time. Purrfekt Piel is over five months pregnant and Amazonia just delivered a baby two weeks ago. Amazonia came over to fulfill a fantasy she repeatedly mentioned throughout her pregnancy, to get fucked while holding the baby. But after Purrfekt showed up you can imagine they had a lot to talk about.
Amazonia left first and I gave her 100 mil COP for diapers. Purrfekt was already here having fucked another client at The Nutti. She told me I could have sloppy seconds freebie as a friend. We were fucking five minutes after Amazonia left and it was great. I don't remember Purrfekt having an orgasm with me in the past year and this time she had four and she actually put down her cell phone. Talking about and playing with Amazonia's baby got her all juiced up.
Then, later in the evening one of my faves Super Groovy showed up on my doorstep saying she was in the neighborhood and wanted to see me for free. She Whassaped me from the front steps of the Nutti and was knocking on my door within one minute of her call. She stayed a little over an hour. After a great session she called EnDriver. I gave her 40 mil COP and one of the six mini-Blue-Tooth speakers I bought for regalos for my chicas, but she wasn't expecting anything.
Obviously I would love to see this trend continue but I don't believe it will. Still, all in all a very strange coincidence, or was it?
Fotos. Reclining nude is Purrfekt Piel on year ago to the day obviously before she was pregnant. No tats and no peircings, hence her moniker. Also, she has a damn near pufffekt figure. Chica in the lime yellow short set is the first new girl I fucked in a week or so. Great little spinner who had a few too many rules including very camera shy, but she left me a lot to work with and tapped out after her fourth or fifth orgasm. The green drink at breakfast is LuLu, made from and indigenous Colombian fruit, lime and water. Lightly sweet with a melony flavor and a bit of tang. I like it. Next, Purrfekt in the shower after sex cleaning the goop out of her pregnant, multi-orgasmed pussy. Finally Purrfekt and Amazonia engrossed in baby talk.Do you still have the same girls at your top ten? Sometimes I feel I should be cheering for someone to move up or for someone make it to your top ten. Do you make a congratulatory speech when someone makes it to your top ten?
Shagmeister7777
02-01-22, 23:05
Four consecutive girls saw me and did not expect to get paid. The Web cam model has been here 3 out of the past 5 mornings after her night shift. Surprisingly, considering her line of work, she is the most camera shy girYou are the man. I'd be happy with awesome paid experiences like yours let alone getting them for free. How long will you be in Medellin?
Do you still have the same girls at your top ten? Sometimes I feel I should be cheering for someone to move up or for someone make it to your top ten. Do you make a congratulatory speech when someone makes it to your top ten?I will post my Top Ten again at the end of this trip. Feel free to root. In order for the system to work the girls on it generally should be interested in their number and even when they act like they don't care at first, they all want to know where they stand. Also, Catgirl is the perennial Numero Uno or it really starts to fall apart as she was the reason for the list in the first place. I've had new girls practically beg me for a number, usually after they look at the fotos on my phone, and others call me a crazy gringo. But not by the ones who are on the List. Pumpkin recently refused a ranking, but I sense she is changing her tune.
I see many more girls regularly than Ten but I am not good enough to effectively manage more than Ten. My neighbor today told me it reminds him of a harem, jajaja but I pointed out they are not all living under one roof, yet, so that term really does not apply. Perhaps a coterie? When my same neighbor asks "What Number is she" and I tell him she hasn't made the list yet, his jaw dropped. Suggestions and feedback welcome on a Title for the group, and insults to me will not be held against you, jajajaaja.
Every girl on the list I have known for two years or more, except for one so it's a tough line-up to crack. Scarlet holds the record for biggest mover starting well outside ten (I used to rank 20 chicas but it was untentable) and Jaz is the highest starter around 5 or 6, I forget at the moment because there have been so many changes. Surprisingly mi numero uno novia Catgirl I have seen the least of any one girl on The List this trip, so quality is not quantity, but she had elective surgery recently and was knocked out of commission. Scarlet and Purrfekt Piel get fucked the most. Correction, the number one position was vacated one time when Catgirl and I had a spate but no one directly made a move up as a result. Number One was left open until we made up and then she returned to her former spot at the top. The biggest surprise this trip and black horse? Caribe, the web cam model looks like she will crack the list and I do not know who she will displace yet. She is physically the best fuck but she will be in the bottom five.
Roughly positions 1-3 or 4 are novias, 4-7 are amigas, and 8-10 are chicas, all except position One can be in flux. There are other unwritten rules that I amazingly do not have to invoke very often. The most common rule that gets used is a higher ranked girl's wishes can get deference, which keeps the peace between the girls. Lots of three-ways among them but they all have not met each other. My previous post showed Purrfekt Piel and Amazonia meeting for the first time yesterday, and bonding over babies.
Ostee Out and let's make this fun while we Keep On Keepin' On. After all, if we are not having fun, then what is the fucking fun, pun intended?
You are the man. I'd be happy with awesome paid experiences like yours let alone getting them for free. How long will you be in Medellin?I have never bought a return ticket basically until forced to because of visa limits or some other pragmatic road block. I am documenting a journey and would never suggest that my way is better or worse than what anyone else does here. That's the beauty of Medellin, options and variety. Follow your heart and woody to what makes you happy.
I have never seen a female population with so much opportunity to engage in sexual fun as here, and I have played this game all around the world, literally.
AtlNightmare
02-02-22, 01:53
Wow if those are the top 10 I'd hate to see with the bottom 10 look like.LOL. That was funny.
I will be visiting Medellin tomorrow till Feb. 9. Anyone want to show me the ropes in Medellin? I speak very little Spanish. So any help would be great! Ideally I would like to find a chica that speaks English. And that can also show me around the tourist sites!
Mechanic88
02-02-22, 05:13
I will be visiting Medellin tomorrow till Feb. 9. Anyone want to show me the ropes in Medellin? I speak very little Spanish. So any help would be great! Ideally I would like to find a chica that speaks English. And that can also show me around the tourist sites!You should have paid for a subscription, that way people can send you contacts and stuff like that.
Four consecutive girls saw me and did not expect to get paid. The Web cam model has been here 3 out of the past 5 mornings after her night shift. Surprisingly, considering her line of work, she is the most camera shy girl I am seeing right now. I think it is some sort of overcompensation behavior as she also takes Risperdal for paranoid schizophrenia. Like my dad taught me (RIP), the crazier the chica the better she fucks. I am second generation monger and I learned from one of the best. She has started talking about some much needed dental work so I know what's coming and I will probably help her with a gift. We all pay in the end, one way or another.The camera shy thing is probably business related. Webcam customers mostly need the fantasy that the girl isn't available to anyone, but would be available for them, if they ever went to visit. Some of them will completely meltdown over any indication that the model is involved with any other man. If you posted a picture of her somewhere and one of her tippers saw it, they would probably get really angry with her.
I see many more girls regularly than Ten but I am not good enough to effectively manage more than Ten. My neighbor today told me it reminds him of a harem, jajaja but I pointed out they are not all living under one roof, yet, so that term really does not apply. Perhaps a coterie? When my same neighbor asks "What Number is she" and I tell him she hasn't made the list yet, his jaw dropped. Suggestions and feedback welcome on a Title for the group, and insults to me will not be held against you, jajajaaja.The 94th Aero (smith) Squadron. All for your big 10. It could be simply "The Big 10", but there are 24 schools in the Big 10.
I will be visiting Medellin tomorrow till Feb. 9. Anyone want to show me the ropes in Medellin? I speak very little Spanish. So any help would be great! Ideally I would like to find a chica that speaks English. And that can also show me around the tourist sites!Look up Aleetours on Facebook. I don't know for certain that she's still in the P4 P game. She used to be. She speaks English and gives tours. I have no experience with her, but there have been good reviews.
Lucky Nuts
02-02-22, 06:44
Lucky Nuts, In your response to Steve9696 you've inadvertently drifted into YMMV territory. Admittedly an exception, but just a week ago I received enthusiastic GFE from a chica at Fase II (including DFK and BBBJ without an upcharge or offering a propina (tip). True, night club ladies frequently decline kissing or mamada natural, but, that said, I've negotiated these extras on a numbr of occasions at Luna Lunera, San Diego, and Conejitos by simply offering a good tip for GFE service (and the possibility of follow-up visits at my apartment). In the casas I've almost always been able to get agreement to DFK / BBBJ up front, sometimes for nothing extra; more often for an upcharge or a propina. Eros Spa (Carrera 81 a # 34 a-15, Apt 301) actually has a list of up-charges (including BBBJ and anal) posted on the wall. Per my previous posts, at the casas I've always been able to interview my chica of choice to confirm full GFE service before agreeing to take her to bed.
No doubt other BMs have had comparable experience in securing kissing and blow jobs au natural at the local chica hunting grounds.Yes Nil Admirari you are correct there is always some YMMV and I'll also agree you can buy kissing with propinas at the "hunting grounds" you mentioned. The OP Steve loves Scandello in Sao Paulo. And La Isla is the closest thing to that in Medellin. I expect that's where he will want to hunt. My experience is that it's very difficult to get kissing let alone GFE kissing from La Isla chicas even when they visit me in my apartment. I had one here Sunday night and was able to get a few seconds of kissing by offering her some lingerie. And again before she walked out the the door with maybe we'll see each other again. But there was no making out. And she's the third La Isla chica I've had in my apartment and they have all been of the same mind on kissing. They don't even want to talk about a price for kissing because they don't want to do it. But then I'm always after the flaca chica with a pretty face so Steve's mileage may vary if he's more flexible with body types. Sounds like you get around Medellin quite a bit have you tried La Isla? My advice to Steve is that if kissing is really important to spend less time at La Isla and more time at places you mentioned. And the most time with Facebook chicas.
LOL. That was funny.Because it is not a beauty ranking?
Nil Admirari
02-02-22, 14:16
Yes Nil Admirari you are correct there is always some YMMV and I'll also agree you can buy kissing with propinas at the "hunting grounds" you mentioned. .......Sounds like you get around Medellin quite a bit have you tried La Isla? My advice to Steve is that if kissing is really important to spend less time at La Isla and more time at places you mentioned. And the most time with Facebook chicas.In answer to your question, an awkward but (in retrospect) amusing experience at La Isla, which I thought I had posted way back when but can't find in the archive. During my annual Medellin visits over the past several years, I've headed up the hill to La Isla a number of times, but, with one exception, I haven't pulled the trigger and taken a chica to a room. This for several reasons: as you report, unable to get agreement to DFK / BBBJ, high price relative to quality compared with other venues, too crowded with big spenders monopolizing the few hot ladies, and, at least during my 2021 stays here, a noticeable decline in the number of doable chicas by my standards.
The exception. Earlier in the pandemic, when La Isla (presumably thanks to friends in high places) was the only club in town remaining open, I showed up there on the early side. After paying the entry fee, I was.
Disconcerted to find the club completely empty, but a waiter took me into the dressing room where about a half-dozen chicas were making their preparations for the evening. One super hot lady flashed me such a flirtatious smile that it prompted me to invite her for a copa. She was among 3 or 4 of the best looking / sexiest ladies I'd met in Medellin, with a very engaging personality--so much so, that, despite her categorical refusal to provide besos or mamada natural (normally an absolute deal killer for me), I forked up the 300 k to session with her. In the room she more than lived up to expectations--playful banter, sexy dancing for my pleasure, super strip tease and lap dance, off-the-chart BJ even with a condom, vocal and apparent O in DATY, and amazing twerking sex in cowgirl and RCG.
Then suddenly about half an hour into our session, she pulled up short. It had happened that (as not uncommon in my late geezerhood) my pecker had softened up a bit and the condom had inadvertently slipped off in her pussy without having my noticed it. The lady (with theatrical indignation) accused me of having deliberately barebacked her and, despite my sincere protestations / explanations, refused to continue. After getting dressed, I appealed up through 3 or 4 layers of the La Isla chain of command to the club's manager, but failed to get a partial refund, and headed somewhat disconsolately back down the magic mountain to Laureles.
A Las Isla. P.S.: Last August, during my two most recent forays to La Isla, a trio of high roller gringos were standing on a table raining dozens of peso bills onto the floor with 10 or so chicas, despite the humiliation, crawling around after the money. A truly disgusting spectacle--not to mention that these guys were monopolizing most all of the talent in the room.
Alaska1986
02-02-22, 16:46
Yes I RTTF. In fact I do daily. The Medellin thread is super active and as many of you may know I contribute regularly in other major threads where I have knowledge. Here's the rub. I hve no knowledge of Med. I like to read about it but it all just washes over me. Like some warm pussy juice.
So now here I am most likely coming to Med end of March and have questions as I start planning. So I would trul appreciate it if we could skip the RTTF comments and some generous members provide concise answers. (I am glad to provide any in return on US, Brazil, UK, Germany, Switzerland, Japan, China and Taiwan.
Often questions get asked with no context which is lame. So here is the context:
I prefer to stay at nice hotels in a part of the city that has a lot to do. Cafes. Restaurants and Bars. I am amazed to see a ton of hotels at $35 a night or something. I'm happy to pay to have a nice fit and finish. Maybe balcony and jacuzzi. I am always envious when you guys are showing all that. The buck goes far in Med. So where should I stay what part of city or preferably recommend hotels..A previous post gave you a good outline. I will say for a first time Poblado parque Lleras is your best bet for picking up in real time type action. Look at Airbnb the trick is finding places that are guest friendly as many places are in high rise buildings with security and have policies that don't allow guests that aren't registered or charge extra. Always good to know this upfront. Hotels can be even worse in that regard. Guest friendly will be your challenge. Airbnbs that aren't in high rise will likely not have as many amenities like jacuzzi pool etc but some have lockbox where you walk directly in front door so there is a tradeoff.
Check out liv realty they have some spots in Poblado and are known to be guest friendly, I believe you pay up front to reserve and its essentially nonrefundable unless they find someone else to rent during your dates.
https://www.livrealtymedellin.com/
Just remember as a general rule for every 5 fb girls that say they will meet you expect 1 to show up LOL. Colombians don't stick to strict schedules like in America.
Ill be in mde the beginning of March (1-14) and if I can pull it off ill stay the whole month. I speak Spanish and have visited Colombia 1-2 x year since 2014 so hit me up if you'd like to link.
I don't know how some of you guys, especially the older ones keep going at it. I have been here a month and a bit getting a little burnt out from all the chicas. I think I have not been hanging with any friends or ISG members for a few weeks and its taking a toll on my mind LOL. But it seems that there is a lot less of us here then there was even two weeks ago. So Message me up boys if your down to go out and hit up some spots in Medellin.
Because it is not a beauty ranking?What is beauty?
Someone said it best a thousand years ago, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
Then suddenly about half an hour into our session, she pulled up short. It had happened that (as not uncommon in my late geezerhood) my pecker had softened up a bit and the condom had inadvertently slipped off in her pussy without having my noticed it. The lady (with theatrical indignation) accused me of having deliberately barebacked her and, despite my sincere protestations / explanations, refused to continue. After getting dressed, I appealed up through 3 or 4 layers of the La Isla chain of command to the club's manager, but failed to get a partial refund, and headed somewhat disconsolately back down the magic mountain to Laureles..Sounds like you were in a no win situation.
I had something on the same lines happen to me in Hong Kong years ago. I was in a casa or whatever they called them there and picked a girl.
And I'm not bragging, but the girl once in the room, and when I was getting ready to put it in here, she said no, and that I was too large.
Which I found hard to believe as this has never happened to me before, and the girl ended the session.
When I dressed and complained to the Madam, or Mamasun, or whatever they are called, I was given a partial refund.
In your case, and since you did penetrate her and banged her for awhile, I can see how your request for a partial refund fell on deaf ears.
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Both of their friends list are visible to me although I am their fb friend so maybe that's why.I strongly suggest you buy a membership so you can share your Facebook list internally. Posting this Facebook list to a wider audience will automatically turn those Facebook girls into divas. 150 K sessions will turn into USD 150.
Was this one of the posses that have degraded the scene in Cartagena too? Sound familiar.
Not high rollers though. Jet Blue want to-be's. Organized sex tours.
A Las Isla. P.S.: Last August, during my two most recent forays to La Isla, a trio of high roller gringos were standing on a table raining dozens of peso bills onto the floor with 10 or so chicas, despite the humiliation, crawling around after the money. A truly disgusting spectacle--not to mention that these guys were monopolizing most all of the talent in the room.
Nil Admirari
02-02-22, 19:12
Was this one of the posses that have degraded the scene in Cartagena too? Sound familiar.
Not high rollers though. Jet Blue want to-be's. Organized sex tours.You're no doubt right. Wannabes with a posse vibe. True highrollers, whatever their ilk, would have more class--or at least constraint.
Alaska1986
02-02-22, 19:54
I strongly suggest you buy a membership so you can share your Facebook list internally. Posting this Facebook list to a wider audience will automatically turn those Facebook girls into divas. 150 K sessions will turn into USD 150.Sorry, I do have a membership I'll correct it.
The camera shy thing is probably business related. Webcam customers mostly need the fantasy that the girl isn't available to anyone, but would be available for them, if they ever went to visit. Some of them will completely meltdown over any indication that the model is involved with any other man. If you posted a picture of her somewhere and one of her tippers saw it, they would probably get really angry with her.Because as I have often been known to post at such places, "The product they sell here is fantasy."
CarpeDiem305
02-02-22, 21:24
I plan on visiting Colombia for the first time next month and I'm wondering what city you guys recommend? I see on this forum Medellin is really popular but other forums and on youtube Bogota seems to be the go to spot. Unfortunately I won't be able to visit two cities while I'm there. Have any of you been to both cities and could recommend one or the other?
The 94th Aero (smith) Squadron. All for your big 10. It could be simply "The Big 10", but there are 24 schools in the Big 10.Because those ten to twenty-four numbers paralled what's really going on. I have Ten, but I know around 24 chicas that I would do regularly (including the Top Ten). But I think I will stick with the classic, Top Ten. Thanks for the input.
The Hotel Botero or Real, the closest hotel to the front door of the Vera Cruz church increased their price for 30 minutes from 25 mil COP to 30 mil COP, and for one hour from 50 to 60 mil COP. As I alluded to before, the baseline rate for a no-frill encounter has increased from 30 mil COP to 40 mil COP. Every chica I have talked to has told me their rent went up, food prices went up. Metro fares went up, all in the past two months. Ostee Out.
What is beauty?
Someone said it best a thousand years ago, "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."That is the same thing I said. Right? You have to debate this with The Cane who can school you on this point.
There's some really hot fruit madres on the beach in Cartagena. I guarantee they will treat you like a king. And all the fruit plates you can eat. They might be 10 for somebody..... or maybe not.
After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.
That is the same thing I said. Right? You have to debate this with The Cane who can school you on this point.Actionable, useful info is the most valuable commodity in the world.
Mechanic88
02-03-22, 06:02
After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.Cartagena. But the nice beaches are about and hour boats ride away. Bendita beach is very nice.
After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.Supply and Demand, my bothers in hijinx.
Actionable, useful info is the most valuable commodity in the world.LOL, next time when this topic comes up again. I will tell you. He has too many posts for me to find it right now even though this topic came up frequent enough. In a nutshell, The Cane claims everyone agrees with him and I tend to agree with him too, haha.
I don't know how some of you guys, especially the older ones keep going at it. I have been here a month and a bit getting a little burnt out from all the chicas. I think I have not been hanging with any friends or ISG members for a few weeks and its taking a toll on my mind LOL. But it seems that there is a lot less of us here then there was even two weeks ago. So Message me up boys if your down to go out and hit up some spots in Medellin.Leather lungs, tethered brain, calloused liver, leather-strap dick, mind control, good genes, and practice, practice, practice. I commonly party my 18+ girlfriends under the table.
After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.You're going to be getting on a plane, so might as well go to San Andres to find what your looking for beach wise unless you go to Parque Tyrona outside of Santa Marta, but the beaches within the park can be a pain to get to unless you have a boat, and foreigners get hosed on the entrance fees.
As far as getting bored quickly in Medellin, and seeing so many ugly girls, well sorry to hear this.
It's rough here in Medellin for sure! LOL.
There's some really hot fruit madres on the beach in Cartagena. I guarantee they will treat you like a king. And all the fruit plates you can eat. They might be 10 for somebody..... or maybe not.Yes, I have seen them, they wear the colorful outfits, with their fruit for sale in a basket on their heads.
Not even sure how someone might approach them for services, and some of them are very weathered looking to say the least, and perhaps at least a "minus" 10 for most. LOL.
What is beauty?.....Yesterday a slim attractive escort came to my place. She was like an oasis in the desert of biggies that have been sent to me for tending to in recent times. She came with an attitude, I could see right off that she fancied herself; in her eyes she was the cat's whiskers. She was all business, no time for idle banter. She got undressed as I did and proceeded to unleash a barrage of her 'do not dos' to me. I was having none of it. The chemistry was all bad. I got dressed and suggested that she do the same and get the hell out of my place. She protested while I gave her taxi money and escorted her to the door. Little did she know that the guy who sent her to me and I have known each other for many years. Keep your good looks, I will go for a 6 with a good attitude over a self important 9 any day.
Yesterday a slim attractive escort came to my place. She was like an oasis in the desert of biggies that have been sent to me for tending to in recent times. She came with an attitude, I could see right off that she fancied herself; in her eyes she was the cat's whiskers. She was all business, no time for idle banter. She got undressed as I did and proceeded to unleash a barrage of her 'do not dos' to me. I was having none of it. The chemistry was all bad. I got dressed and suggested that she do the same and get the hell out of my place. She protested while I gave her taxi money and escorted her to the door. Little did she know that the guy who sent her to me and I have known each other for many years. Keep your good looks, I will go for a 6 with a good attitude over a self important 9 any day.We have had several posts on this topic. The point cannot be stressed enough. My own recent example. I met this FB lady. A tad bit older at 27. I usually foam at the mouth for a nice tall flacita with a beautiful face. Well this girl was 4'10" at best. Very pretty face but so-so body. We all judge differently but her pretty face made her about a 7 for me. Probably a 6 for others.
Well after the session as she was leaving I realized she wasn't a 7 she was a 16.7 for looks but 9 for performance.
I discussed my experience with Oste briefly and I have a new formula. I'm willing (in fact delighted) to trade a point or two on the looks scale if I get those points back on the performance scale.
Turgid's point is exactly right. My 7 knows the competition is fierce. She knows she is probably getting only one date but if she makes it the best date possible, she may see the guy a few more times and may get some referrals. So yes. Performance matters and I agree. Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude that I should thank my lucky stars that she even bothered with me.
My 7 knows the competition is fierce. She knows she is probably getting only one date but if she makes it the best date possible, she may see the guy a few more times and may get some referrals. So yes. Performance matters and I agree. Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude that I should thank my lucky stars that she even bothered with me.Dig a little deeper, or I guess descend a bit down to the "5" category, and the performance's may be logarithmically better than the 7's.
But I'm not proposing anything lower than that, I do have standards, as low as they may be to maintain. LOL.
The ones with the fruit on their head just post for pictures with tourists the fruit madres I am referencing, line the beach and sell fruit plates, . They'll even squirt cream on them. LOL.
Yes, I have seen them, they wear the colorful outfits, with their fruit for sale in a basket on their heads.
Not even sure how someone might approach them for services, and some of them are very weathered looking to say the least, and perhaps at least a "minus" 10 for most. LOL.
We have had several posts on this topic. The point cannot be stressed enough. My own recent example. I met this FB lady. A tad bit older at 27. I usually foam at the mouth for a nice tall flacita with a beautiful face. Well this girl was 4'10" at best. Very pretty face but so-so body. We all judge differently but her pretty face made her about a 7 for me. Probably a 6 for others.
Well after the session as she was leaving I realized she wasn't a 7 she was a 16.7 for looks but 9 for performance.
I discussed my experience with Oste briefly and I have a new formula. I'm willing (in fact delighted) to trade a point or two on the looks scale if I get those points back on the performance scale.
Turgid's point is exactly right. My 7 knows the competition is fierce. She knows she is probably getting only one date but if she makes it the best date possible, she may see the guy a few more times and may get some referrals. So yes. Performance matters and I agree. Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude that I should thank my lucky stars that she even bothered with me.You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post. This doesn't have to do anything with the looks, you could fuck an average looking Parque Lleras girl and get equally shitty service, I think we all have been there, done that. My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.
My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.Your point does not require a shared rating system.
I love it when I can win a debate in one simple statement, jeje. Next.
Keep On Keepin' On my brother in hijinx, and try to feel the love.
ColombiaLover
02-03-22, 18:31
I am sorry you were bored with MDE so quickly. The city you saw is not the same city I see. I find lots of hot girls, nice people, fun things to do, good weather, etc. But to each his own. One less "competitor" to deal with.
To address your question. Nice beach. Well, CTG does not generally have nice beaches, unless perhaps you to go Playa Blanca. The beaches in Santa Marta are OK, with the best ones being in Tyrona National Park to the north of Santa Marta. Probably the best beaches are in San Andres, but you won't find any chica action there. You need to bring your own.
I should note that I am from Florida and am accustomed to nice beaches. I don't particularly find cancun to be that great, honestly. So if that's the standard, you should be able to find a satisfactory beach in Colombia.
[Should have read the other replies before doing so. It looks like another Board member has a similar opinion to me with regard to the beaches to try.]
After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.
The ones with the fruit on their head just post for pictures with tourists the fruit madres I am referencing, line the beach and sell fruit plates, . They'll even squirt cream on them. LOL.Well then, if I can squirt cream in them, I'm in. LOL.
Some kind of energy nexus point, as yet to be defined. Two more girls came over late and did not expect payment, Scarlet and unbeknownst to me, Super Groovy came-a-knocking on my door after I told Scarlet I wouldn't pay her to visit. I assumed that meant she would not come but I was wrong. That makes six girls in a row. Scarlet has novia status in my line-up so she does not have to be paid but I usually give her at least a hundred mil COP because she is so poor so you can call that one a cheat and I will acquiesce. I still gave Super 40 mil COP for cab fare but she definitely was not expecting it by the expression and sound that came out of her moufus, you know, one of those Scooby Doo's.
So yesterday ended up being a five girl day, way above my average of 3.2 to 3.3 this trip. This really is a different culture here. When Caribe got off her night shift from the Web camming studio this morning, she walked in (I left the door open for her) walked over to my bed, threw the covers back. The first words out of her mouth were, "Why isn't your cock hard?" She then dragged me out of bed, pushed me in the shower before she would have sex with me. I don't know how she knew I had not showered since Scarlet and Super left late last night, but she did. By the time I got out of the shower, she was passed out asleep. Where she is now.
And not to berate the point, but it looks like the 7th girl not expecting payment is coming over later, although I did promise to take her out to eat and to buy her one cute thing to wear, and of course pay taxi. Like a date. And my outlay will be roughly half compared to fair market value of Pay for Play. So of course, there never really is such a thing as "free", we all pay in the end, one way or another.
Why ask why? I am going to ride this wave until it reaches shore and I have no idea how far from the beach I am. Ostee Out and let's Keep On Keepin' On, together. I am running on fumes. Back to the salt mines and time to dig deep.
Among the fotos, I was playing with Scarlet pale pink pussy and asshole for two hours while she laid on her side on her cell phone. Sometimes I love it when they detach like that. Total ojectification. Sorry JustTK, jeje, if both parties are willing participants I don't see an issue.
Look twice, Jessie is sucking one of my balls, not the shaft, it's an optical illusion, jajajaja. She is my current Ground Zero fave. I have not had her to my hotel room yet. I tried but she was one of the ones who the front desk would not let pass because of how she was dressed. Other than that single isolated episode, no other negative mongering issues here at The Nutti. In fact, now that I have my own WiFi Hotspot, the longer I stay here, the more I like it. Life is good.
Hello,
All I am new to the thread, I have been scouring it for days trying to get prices for women all night. You've given the 200 k rate in gustos, la Isla, parque Lleras, etc.
What would the all night rate be in those places? It is my first time. I plan on hitting Gustos, La Isla (but not so confident in that based on what I've read) outside in Parque LLeras?
You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post. This doesn't have to do anything with the looks, you could fuck an average looking Parque Lleras girl and get equally shitty service, I think we all have been there, done that. My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.I don't see where anyone made that assumption, at least not recently. Both Turgid and Villainy just reported on specific situations, one where a possible 8 or 9 had attitude issues and the other where a 6 or 7 gave an excellent performance.
I can't say what number rating is appropriate for the women who have given me the best sex of my life. Mainly because, except to make a comparison, I don't use a number scale. Another reason is that there are too many factors in "the best sex" ranking. When I think about the 5-10 top contenders for my #1 sex experience slot, they are all different. There's also the problem that some of them I had sex with several times and not every time was spectacular.
My mood, her mood, how attractive each finds the other, the location, the atmosphere, whether or not there's an emotional connection, how responsive each is to the other's actions, are just some of the factors for me.
The experience can also change drastically while it's happening. I've had sessions which started out average and then finished amazing and vice versa.
While I think most would agree, fantastic sex with a girl who they consider highly attractive is the best, not everyone is willing to jump through all the hoops and deal with all the issues to only seek those experiences.
1. They are difficult to find. I can easily find 20 girls who are above average in looks in the time it takes to find an exceptional girl.
2. It can be hard to get their attention. Drop down one notch and getting their attention requires having a pulse. I get the attention of 15 girls a week by doing absolutely nothing.
3. It can be hard to negotiate a price. When you have 2,000 women all wanting to see you, negotiating a price is simple.
4. They flake or ghost you. Even after overcoming all the other obstacles, you end up with nothing to show for it? For me that's a deal breaker. I'm fine with spending the time searching and I know how to get their attention. I'm willing to pay the price to get what I want. However, after doing everything, I'm probably going to have to start over from the beginning?
I think that's what Turgid and Villainy are saying. Why put all your effort into some endeavor which rarely succeeds, when you can have guaranteed success with very little effort?
After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.Why see ugly girls when there are beautiful girls everywhere? If you couldn't find a beautiful girl in Medellin, you won't be able to find one anywhere in Colombia.
If the beach at Cancun is the place you would rather be, why not just go to Cancun? This is the thing which always confuses me. Guys post on here asking if Medellin has places like they enjoy in other countries. Just go to the other country. While you might find some really good sushi in North Dakota, if you're looking for a place just like one in Tokyo, you're going to be disappointed with North Dakota's best.
My opinion is people should visit a city or country because of what that city or country has to offer, not because they offer something similar to another place. You won't find a Cancun in Colombia.
Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitude that I should thank my lucky stars that she even bothered with me.I have a great usa friend. He has 2-3 10's every day. Its very rare tgat any of his girls are anything but 10's. They are all "smoking hot", even the ugly ones. They are all really keen on him too, even though he knows only 5-6 words of spanish, and they all love having sex w him, even the ones that don't.
Mr Enternational
02-03-22, 20:59
I'm willing (in fact delighted) to trade a point or two on the looks scale if I get those points back on the performance scale.And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?
Give me the 7 that wants to rock my world instead of the 9 who has an attitudeStill don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.
All the hotels around Veracruz raised their rates. The cheapest of them went up 1,000 pesos, the mid range places like mentioned went up 5,000. I have not noticed a change in the price of girls, 25,000 to 30,000 consistently but of course YMMV.
The Hotel Botero or Real, the closest hotel to the front door of the Vera Cruz church increased their price for 30 minutes from 25 mil COP to 30 mil COP, and for one hour from 50 to 60 mil COP. As I alluded to before, the baseline rate for a no-frill encounter has increased from 30 mil COP to 40 mil COP. Every chica I have talked to has told me their rent went up, food prices went up. Metro fares went up, all in the past two months. Ostee Out.
As explained to me by several providers, they don't want to wind up on the Internet. A webcam girl I know was fed a line of bullshit by the studio manager. He told her the site is not reachable from Colombia. Her last day as a webcam girl was the day I showed her the site using a spoofed address. She was horrified.
The camera shy thing is probably business related. Webcam customers mostly need the fantasy that the girl isn't available to anyone, but would be available for them, if they ever went to visit. Some of them will completely meltdown over any indication that the model is involved with any other man. If you posted a picture of her somewhere and one of her tippers saw it, they would probably get really angry with her.
The Hotel Botero or Real, the closest hotel to the front door of the Vera Cruz church increased their price for 30 minutes from 25 mil COP to 30 mil COP, and for one hour from 50 to 60 mil COP. As I alluded to before, the baseline rate for a no-frill encounter has increased from 30 mil COP to 40 mil COP. Every chica I have talked to has told me their rent went up, food prices went up. Metro fares went up, all in the past two months. Ostee Out.This is not true unless maybe your referring to the total price including the girl's fee and the hotel. I was just there this morning bro, Hotel Botero Real (the red hotel). It used to be 7 k and now it is 8 k (un rato / half hour) and for an hour it used to be 14 k and now it is 16 k COP.
Elvis 2008
02-03-22, 23:11
After getting bored with Medellin fairly quick, after all the ugly girls I saw, Is there a city in Colombia that has a beach as nice as Cancun. If I do go back I want to go to a different city but want to be next to a nice beach if they exist in Colombia.That is funny, another guy bitching about women in Medellin. Tijuana, you have company here. Where have all the good ones gone? Cartagena is an expensive city but IMO the weather is perfect. High 80's during day, low 70's at night. It is not too big. It is a Caribbean city where the prices, though higher than the rest of Colombia, are much cheaper than the rest of the Caribbean world.
The beaches are dirt. The first time I saw them I thought them ugly. There are a few okay ones, but even though the beach is close, I do not go that much. Still, if you go to Bocagrande, the water is pretty clear, and it is warm. The better beaches are a 30 to 60 minute boat ride away on an island. I have been here 30+ days and done that once.
What I have appreciated more is the beach at back drop. I love watching the pelicans do their dive bombing routine looking for fish and the amazing sunsets. I chose to come back time and again to Cartagena because I like the weather, the food, the air. I did not like it that much at first, but it grew on me. Chances are the first time you see it you will not be that impressed.
As for the women, I have not done much here. Thing is that you have to hunt for the beauties IMO. They are there, at the malls ETC. I went to a dentist here, and she had loose scrubs on but I could see the amazing figure underneath it.
I am just not sure how much is left. I have taken one of the best, and I see all her friends and many are stunning. I just think the best ones have been snatched up. The others are in hiding. Guys from all over the world have been flying to Colombia to try out the women here.
MarquisdeSade1
02-03-22, 23:27
You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post..I have done some of the most beautiful 18 yo, 10's in the world, blonde haired blue eyed goddesses with no ink babies or implants.
Great, amazing sex swallowing my jizz and eating my ass like a porn star, but something is always lacking.
I believe ETooms wrote one day.
Some guys want to drive the expensive sports car.
But he said he rather be the expensive sports car being driven.
In other words, these 10's have large egos.
Guess what so do I (among other things) LOL.
I want them worshipping me, these 10's are used to guys kissing their feet (that's not me).
When I pay a puta for sex regardless of her 1-10 position.
I want her "worshipping me" I want them kissing my feet.
I don't pay 3rd world putas to kiss their asses (or any putas).
Elvis 2008
02-03-22, 23:31
The longer I travel, it is having the simple things that I want that matters most: a decent place to eat, good bed, electrical outlets, nice TV, and my God, just hot water. Maybe it is because the mongers have been so bad that in the past that the good hotels have charged through the roof guest fees, and we have been stuck with 2nd rate hotels like Hotel Haven.
My favorite mongering hotels were those in Mexico where the hotel lobby was like on the 6th floor and guest rooms were on floors much higher like the 9th floor and I could just zip by the lobby on the elevator and not have to worry about even checking someone in.
Well, Medellin has a hotel like that now. The Fairfeld Inn by Marriott just opened up, and it has all the amenities we Americans want and it is around $65 a night. The exact address is: Fairfield by Marriott Medellin Sabaneta, Cra. 43 A #50 sur 201, Sabaneta, Medellin, Antioquia.
If you put in Medellin and Fairfield into google maps, you will end up in a parking lot. You have to use the city of Sabaneta in your search.
It would be better if the hotel were closer to the action and to the airport, and I just had a fleeting one night glance but the city of Sabaneta had a nice new mall and it seemed safe to me. Maybe the experts can chime in with more.
If I were still in the game of screening women with SA, this hotel is for certain the one I would use.
Only reason I stayed there is my night flight to Cartagena got bumped until today. My loss is the gain of you guys here.
This is not the high end Marriott though. It is their low cost option. It is more like La Quinta or Holiday Inn than JW Marriott.
Maybe they will have a bellhop monitoring guests on the first floor in the future but for now, there was no one there.
And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?That one is simple. You pay attention. When you're talking or messaging with the girl, you evaluate her responses. Is she just giving the simplest responses, or is she putting in some effort? If you found her on Facebook, check out her page. Is everything self-centered? Does she have any interests other than just posting selfies?
While none of that is definitive, it helps to weed out the ones who are going to just give minimal effort.
Where did anyone mention ugly chicks? I think most guys wouldn't consider a 7 to be ugly, even if they are only looking for an 8-10.
Long ago I played a game whenever I went to a strip club. Obviously there were some dancers I found more attractive than others and some I didn't find attractive. The game was simple. Find the positive. Maybe the ugly girl was a great dancer, or really knew how to work the pole. Maybe she just had a great smile, or personality. It didn't mean I was ready to make it rain for the chubby girl. It just meant I looked for some aspect of each girl which I could appreciate. Not only did it make my night more enjoyable, but it helped me connect with the more attractive dancers. Every beautiful woman has at least 1 fat or ugly friend.
Still don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.This is simple as well. Nobody said there are only 2 choices. They both just stated that performance is at least as important as appearance. Some agree, some don't.
Ideally, each person decides what is more important to them.
1. They are difficult to find. I can easily find 20 girls who are above average in looks in the time it takes to find an exceptional girl.
2. It can be hard to get their attention. Drop down one notch and getting their attention requires having a pulse. I get the attention of 15 girls a week by doing absolutely nothing.
3. It can be hard to negotiate a price. When you have 2,000 women all wanting to see you, negotiating a price is simple.
4. They flake or ghost you. Even after overcoming all the other obstacles, you end up with nothing to show for it? For me that's a deal breaker. I'm fine with spending the time searching and I know how to get their attention. I'm willing to pay the price to get what I want. However, after doing everything, I'm probably going to have to start over from the beginning?
I think that's what Turgid and Villainy are saying. Why put all your effort into some endeavor which rarely succeeds, when you can have guaranteed success with very little effort?1. We are talking about smoking hot girls, not just "above average".
2. What girls you are talking about? Parque Lleras? El Centro? Sure, when you show up there, all eyes are on you (and your wallet).
3. When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult.
4. Why do they flake? Her regular just messaged her he is in town wanting to meet. Or a higher offer just came in. Her friend just offered a free photoshoot. Etc, etc, etc. Good looking girls get a lot of attention and benefits, and are very selective for that reason.
How do you define a success? Is merely getting laid a success for you? Sure, picking up El Centro girl for a quick fuck doesn't require much effort. All you need is a dick and 40 mil. For me, a success is when I get what I really want, the way I want (and that is not an average looking chica or lousy service). High effort, high reward.
El Viajero
02-04-22, 02:09
And how are you going to rate performance beforehand? You just plan on picking a bunch of ugly chicks in hopes they perform better than they look?
Still don't know why these are the 2 choices. What about the 7 with an attitude or the 9 that wants to rock your world? Why are these not options as well? Do all 9s have attitudes? Do all 7s want to rock worlds? Of course I will accept a car that does not look all that good but gets me places over one that just sits in the driveway looking good but does not run. But I would rather have a car that looks good and gets me places if I have that choice. You guys act like that is not an option.After reading all these posts I think what we can agree on is attitude trumps looks by a good margin? I guess the question is how much can a great attitude make up for in the looks department. Don't know about you but doesn't matter how great the attitude is from a glue sniffing anorexic chica from el centro has, there is definitely a line all of us are not willing to cross. Interesting thought though, for my upcoming trip I'm going to make an effort to find the best positive attitude chica I can find regardless of what she looks like. As Mr Eternational says though its almost impossible to tell until you're both but naked in bed but there are some tell tail signs to look out for beforehand.
1. We are talking about smoking hot girls, not just "above average".
2. What girls you are talking about? Parque Lleras? El Centro? Sure, when you show up there, all eyes are on you (and your wallet).
3. When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult.
4. Why do they flake? Her regular just messaged her he is in town wanting to meet. Or a higher offer just came in. Her friend just offered a free photoshoot. Etc, etc, etc. Good looking girls get a lot of attention and benefits, and are very selective for that reason.
How do you define a success? Is merely getting laid a success for you? Sure, picking up El Centro girl for a quick fuck doesn't require much effort. All you need is a dick and 40 mil. For me, a success is when I get what I really want, the way I want (and that is not an average looking chica or lousy service). High effort, high reward.You have to read what JB wrote again. Your don't seem get it based on reading what you wrote. One thing JB says is the success rate is low which is basically what you are saying. You also are not counting what you go thru like now, or most of the time we read your posts. Sure you got high reward, but it also seems you are paying for it in some way too which can cancel out the reward that many choose to move on.
Don has no problem getting 10's.
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There are too many women and not enough time to meet. And once I land there will be even more. I downsized from over 200 (with their numbers, texting etc.) to only around 50 but in different cities all over Colombia. Most are 10's. They are all nice people. My penis is apparently running the show. So I increased the time in Colombia to 2 months. I figure 10 of these girls will want long term relationships. If I fall in love, it won't be the first time. I hope to meet them and return to close a deal with someone, maybe more than one. Help Elvis! . I feel kinda bad about that. But you only live once.
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I have a great usa friend. He has 2-3 10's every day. Its very rare tgat any of his girls are anything but 10's. They are all "smoking hot", even the ugly ones. They are all really keen on him too, even though he knows only 5-6 words of spanish, and they all love having sex w him, even the ones that don't.
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ShamusMcGee1
02-04-22, 03:05
I will be in MED in a few days and was wondering if anyone here was also making the trip? I'm staying at the San Peter Apts, got a top floor soundproof room (yeah right). As this is my first trip, was wondering if anyone would want to meet up, I'll buy the beer for your advice!
I have done some homework, lurked a bit as I planned my trip trying to stack the deck in my favor. I invested in a travel safe, bought and configured a secure travel Wi-Fi router, and other mentioned necessities. Also, I successfully chatted up chicas to snag about 25 WhatsApp numbers from Tinder. They all promised to meet but if I end up closing escrow with a half-dozen, it was worth the time. Will be working the clubs, La Isla (and Gustos, and the couple of casas that I read to be good. Probably hit a strip club or two as well, not really my scene but why not?
I plan to report on my exploits to pay it back for all I gleaned here. Let me know if there's anything else I should be adding to the agenda. Thanks guys!
Don has no problem getting 10's.
and thisGetting (or fucking) 10's or finding 10's? Two different things. Read my prior post again. 50 sounds like a good number but spread out over different cities. Then he has to make them reply, negotiate the price / terms, finally meet in person. I'm awaiting his report, hopefully, with a few photos of his 10's.
Mechanic88
02-04-22, 04:31
I will be in MED in a few days and was wondering if anyone here was also making the trip? I'm staying at the San Peter Apts, got a top floor soundproof room (yeah right). As this is my first trip, was wondering if anyone would want to meet up, I'll buy the beer for your advice!
I have done some homework, lurked a bit as I planned my trip trying to stack the deck in my favor. I invested in a travel safe, bought and configured a secure travel Wi-Fi router, and other mentioned necessities. Also, I successfully chatted up chicas to snag about 25 WhatsApp numbers from Tinder. They all promised to meet but if I end up closing escrow with a half-dozen, it was worth the time. Will be working the clubs, La Isla (and Gustos, and the couple of casas that I read to be good. Probably hit a strip club or two as well, not really my scene but why not?
I plan to report on my exploits to pay it back for all I gleaned here. Let me know if there's anything else I should be adding to the agenda. Thanks guys!I'm flying tomorrow.
As explained to me by several providers, they don't want to wind up on the Internet. A webcam girl I know was fed a line of bullshit by the studio manager. He told her the site is not reachable from Colombia. Her last day as a webcam girl was the day I showed her the site using a spoofed address. She was horrified.Absolutely. On all of the webcam sites I'm familiar with the model (or studio) can block access from an entire country. In the US they can block by the state and I think the city in some cases. However, you can get around the block with a VPN, although not all VPNs work on all the sites.
This happened with a model I was working with. Someone from her family found her on the webcam site she used. Both her and her husband came from estrato 6 families. I think the guy was one of her cousins. He told the family and it caused a huge problem for her. She took a month off and came back, but she wasn't the same.
Fortunately, she made enough money to open her own business, very close to Parque Lleras. Last time I talked to her she was doing very well.
Getting (or fucking) 10's or finding 10's? Two different things. Read my prior post again. 50 sounds like a good number but spread out over different cities. Then he has to make them reply, negotiate the price / terms, finally meet in person. I'm awaiting his report, hopefully, with a few photos of his 10's.I already analyzed about situation like yours. You need to be cream of the crop to date cream of the crop. In reality, men likely are dating the lower tier relatively speaking in online dating situation. The reason you are getting it is because you are sharing it. I know someone who does not have problem getting what he wants. He has money but little time so he always line up several girls a day. His deal with girls involves luxury items and cash. When a girl can't make it, the girl introduce another smoking hot girl as replacement. He is not handsome but his generosity makes him the cream of the crop.
So I am wondering why Elvis wears a suit, now it all makes sense.
Have you been to Scandallo? Many think that place has enough 10's. All you have to do is willing to pay for it.
This is not true unless maybe your referring to the total price including the girl's fee and the hotel. I was just there this morning bro, Hotel Botero Real (the red hotel). It used to be 7 k and now it is 8 k (un rato / half hour) and for an hour it used to be 14 k and now it is 16 k COP.I was trying to be helpful but I could have gotten my facts wrong. I was there. I experienced it. My Spanish is good enough to comprehend it. I even asked the chicas I was with at the time if there were different prices on different days, because I did not think their answer made sense the first time and they said "no". Probably, I fucked up. Been known to happen, more than once or twice. I am a Truth Seeker so misinformation cuts me like a knife. Thanks for the help. Lesson learned.
After reading all these posts I think what we can agree on is attitude trumps looks by a good margin? I guess the question is how much can a great attitude make up for in the looks department. Don't know about you but doesn't matter how great the attitude is from a glue sniffing anorexic chica from el centro has, there is definitely a line all of us are not willing to cross. Interesting thought though, for my upcoming trip I'm going to make an effort to find the best positive attitude chica I can find regardless of what she looks like. As Mr Eternational says though its almost impossible to tell until you're both but naked in bed but there are some tell tail signs to look out for beforehand.He is a rarity around here because he is demonstrating these three constructs at the same time.
Intelligence.
Common sense.
Street smarts.
I bet you will enjoy your time in Medellin. If you add passion or love to the list you will have the time of your life.
1. We are talking about smoking hot girls, not just "above average".
2. What girls you are talking about? Parque Lleras? El Centro? Sure, when you show up there, all eyes are on you (and your wallet).
3. When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult.
4. Why do they flake? Her regular just messaged her he is in town wanting to meet. Or a higher offer just came in. Her friend just offered a free photoshoot. Etc, etc, etc. Good looking girls get a lot of attention and benefits, and are very selective for that reason.
How do you define a success? Is merely getting laid a success for you? Sure, picking up El Centro girl for a quick fuck doesn't require much effort. All you need is a dick and 40 mil. For me, a success is when I get what I really want, the way I want (and that is not an average looking chica or lousy service). High effort, high reward.1. I know. That's why I said I can easily find 20 above average girls in the time it takes to find an exceptional one. When I'm in Medellin I'm only there for 2 weeks. Usually I am trying to do a lot of things, in addition to getting laid. If I decided to only seek "smoking hot" girls, there's a reasonable chance I would need to give up some of my other interests, just to find a few girls. Then I risk getting ghosted.
2. "I get the attention of 15 girls a week by doing absolutely nothing." Walking around El Centro, or Parque Lleras involves doing something. The girls I'm talking about are mostly on Facebook, although some are on Twitter or Instagram. My pages are out there. Girls either find my page on their own, or one of their friends points them in my direction. These days, I don't do much of anything on social media, but I still get plenty of girls reaching out to me.
3. Yes. That's the point you made, about the difficulty of negotiating a price. Meanwhile, there are plenty of girls who are just a little bit below what you call smoking hot, who have very few guys, at any one time trying to set something up with them. I remember one, who might be considered by many to be smoking hot. A friend recommended her. We talked and she quoted 300 k. I responded with "Siempre pago 200 mil". She asked if I would also give her something for the taxi. 30 seconds or less to settle on the price. Another, recommended by the same friend, told me 150 k. She was smoking hot, body face and performance, but she hadn't been in the business long and wasn't marketing herself.
4. Why they flake doesn't matter. If I'm trying to get an Uber, why I can't get one doesn't help me. I'm not willing to walk 2 miles or wait for 2 hours. I'm going to find a ride from another source.
If we're talking about girls, there are 2 options. The first is to get her interested in you, instead of just relying on the money to get her interested. That has worked many times for me.
The other option is much easier. Just make an offer she can't refuse. If you're only interested in the top shelf girls, then all the difficulties can be handled by paying more.
How do I define success? To begin with, I don't pick up women in El Centro and I've never pulled a woman working in Parque Lleras. I probably would take a woman from Parque Lleras, but I don't really fish in that pond.
Success for me is quite simple. Am I satisfied with the outcome? I don't waste my time trying to decide where it ranks in my list of experiences. I don't bother with figuring out where the girl ranks in appearance to all the women I've been with. I've been fucking for over 40 years. It would be silly to decide that I'm only successful if the girl looks as good as some of the girls I was with in my mid 30's and the performance was equal or better than the ones I consider to be the best.
My philosophy is that I should set myself up to succeed, rather than set myself up to fail. I suppose, if you set yourself to fail and fail 10 times for each success, that success would be fantastic. However, if you set yourself up to succeed, every time is great and some times are fantastic.
That isn't limited to taking only average girls, or ugly girls. You can set yourself up for success with the best looking women and not have to worry about them flaking. In fact, if you approach it correctly, you can have the women you struggle to find now, trying to meet you. The downside is it's expensive, in time and money.
The reason this circular argument about rating systems and beauty is going around and down and endless circular toilet drain with no end in sight is because you can't use logic and reason to describe a topic that is so emotional and subjective. They don't match, like oil and water, or trying to produce a fine art painting with a backhoe.
The attempt is pure and simple, self-validation which not surprisingly, is rampant on a Website with a bunch of fractured male egos hunting pussy. There is nothing inherently wrong or bad about self-validation other than it's totally unnecessary and a waste of time. So be it. Needing approval or even opinions of other persons about what you feel is attractive only stems from self-insecurity, and nothing else. Even if you find like-minded mongerers, it just means now you have a pack of insecure male egos in competition with each other. Ludicrous, but I doubt harmful to others, much.
Anecdotally, my friend said he went out to dinner in Poblado the other night with three high rollers. They were throwing 100 mil COP notes at people and things that cost one-third that. They kept presenting him with chicas they considered a 9 or 10. He said the highest he would have given any of them was a 3.
MarquisdeSade1
02-04-22, 07:45
After reading all these posts I think what we can agree on is attitude trumps looks by a good margin? I guess the question is how much can a great attitude make up for in the looks department. Don't know about you but doesn't matter how great the attitude is from a glue sniffing anorexic chica from el centro has, there is definitely a line all of us are not willing to cross. Interesting thought though, for my upcoming trip I'm going to make an effort to find the best positive attitude chica I can find regardless of what she looks like. As Mr Eternational says though its almost impossible to tell until you're both but naked in bed but there are some tell tail signs to look out for beforehand.Touche'.
Yes that's what screening via a pre interview is for, I can see what I need in less than 30 seconds f2 f (it doesn't even need a common language) is my process infallible? Hell no.
Scammers will always find ways to feign being sweet, they know what I'm looking for.
But I will say its about 90% effective.
I already analyzed about situation like yours. You need to be cream of the crop to date cream of the crop. In reality, men likely are dating the lower tier relatively speaking in online dating situation. The reason you are getting it is because you are sharing it. I know someone who does not have problem getting what he wants. He has money but little time so he always line up several girls a day. His deal with girls involves luxury items and cash. When a girl can't make it, the girl introduce another smoking hot girl as replacement. He is not handsome but his generosity makes him the cream of the crop.
So I am wondering why Elvis wears a suit, now it all makes sense.
Have you been to Scandallo? Many think that place has enough 10's. All you have to do is willing to pay for it.You don't necessarily have to be the best looking man to get the best looking girls. There are 3 paths to get the best looking women. If you have the money and are willing to spend it, you can buy your way to the top. If you don't have the money, but have the looks, you can get to the top.
Fortunately, there's another way. You can always get the top girls if you can talk with them. That means you need to be able to listen to them and to be interested in what they are saying. While most women will go for a man who has plenty of money, or who is great looking, what they really want is someone who they can really open up to.
I'm not sure if I've told this story here before. I think it started in 2000 and lasted to 2002. I started spending a lot of time at the best local strip club. I spent quite a bit of money, but I didn't spend enough to get the girls to come home with me.
One day there were only a few other customers in the club. One of the top dancers sat down at my table and we started talking. We had some mutual interests and I'm a good listener. She gave me her website address. She was hoping I would pay for some of the videos on her website. Instead I looked it over and looked for ways to make it better. The next time I saw her in the club, I asked questions and gave her some recommendations. From that point on, she always took time to sit and talk with me.
And all I did was talk and listen. I didn't try to get a date or anything else, just normal conversations. Before long other dancers were coming to sit with me. They couldn't figure out why one of the girls who made the most money would be sitting with me. Was I a drug dealer giving free samples? Was I rich? No. But I was a person they could sit with and feel comfortable. The funny thing, I was spending less money than I was spending before.
I ended up getting 5 dancers and 1 waitress in my bed. I went out with another 5 and 4 different dancers rented a room in my house.
I was trying to be helpful but I could have gotten my facts wrong. I was there. I experienced it. My Spanish is good enough to comprehend it. I even asked the chicas I was with at the time if there were different prices on different days, because I did not think their answer made sense the first time and they said "no". Probably, I fucked up. Been known to happen, more than once or twice. I am a Truth Seeker so misinformation cuts me like a knife. Thanks for the help. Lesson learned.I would've expect your Spanish to be great by now. If my French teacher was giving me BJs I would be fluent in French.
I would've expect your Spanish to be great by now. If my French teacher was giving me BJs I would be fluent in French.Once you're fluent the teacher and the blowjobs go away.
Once you're fluent the teacher and the blowjobs go away.I am not connecting those dots in the same way.
I would've expect your Spanish to be great by now. If my French teacher was giving me BJs I would be fluent in French.I wonder why? Jajajajajajaaaa.
...Fortunately, there's another way. You can always get the top girls if you can talk with them...In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.
Mr Enternational
02-04-22, 19:05
In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.Easy. The first message you should send is, "When can you meet me in Laureles?" If you are in town and ready, that 2000 to 1 goes quickly to about 15 to 1 with one message. Skip the pleasantries.
Easy. The first message you should send is, "When can you meet me in Laureles?" If you are in town and ready, that 2000 to 1 goes quickly to about 15 to 1 with one message. Skip the pleasantries.To clarify, I am referring to this post.
...When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult...I think you are talking about this.
...When you have 2,000 women all wanting to see you, negotiating a price is simple....
Mr Enternational
02-04-22, 19:46
To clarify, I am referring to this post.
I think you are talking about this.I am talking about getting her attention over the other 1,999.
In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.The same applies. I have several women who I met online and established something more than a simple P4P transaction.
I am talking about getting her attention over the other 1,999.I've covered that in the past. My last trip I flew to Bogota. We were just passing Medellin just after sunset and I had a perfect view of the city, with the streetlights all lit and all the colors in the sky. I snapped a picture and posted it on Facebook. Over the next 2 days 59 Medellin girls liked it and about 25 messaged me, wanting to meet. That's without sending a message to anyone.
I could also just post a question like "Quien quiere visitarme en Poblado" (or Laureles, Envigado wherever) and have 50 to 100 messaging me. There are endless variations on the theme. Post something enticing on Facebook and watch the feeding frenzy begin.
Then you just weed through the ones who responded. And there's always the friend list. Send as many messages as you want. "Hola. Estoy en Medellin esta semana. Como estas? Quiero verte. " Send that to as many as you want. I expect and get about a 70% response rate. 10 messages, 7 dates.
In 15 minutes or less you can easily fill your calendar for the next week.
It gets even easier with repetition. Girls will hit you up wondering when you'll be back. Some will refer you to friends or even cousins and sisters. More girls will send a friend request. I don't even look for girls anymore. On rare occasions there will be one I really want to see, so I'll initiate a conversation. For the majority, I have plenty of regulars and plenty of girls who are contacting me.
If I went back to spend another year in Medellin, I could just see the girls who initiated the conversation with me, have 2 every day and never need to repeat with 1 or go searching for 1.
The great thing is, anyone can do the same thing.
ColombiaLover
02-04-22, 21:02
I stopped seeing most 8 and 9's a while back, because I was not getting a great experience for the inflated price they wanted. Basically, I was paying to bang the body, the make-up and the surgeries. I am sure there are exceptions who perform decently with the right guy, but surely at a price. A price which some will pay and some won't if they believe they can get something better with a 6 or 7 (my situation, as I like girls next door, not plastics). I agree that high end girls are often difficult to nail down, as they get a lot of messages, they probably have several sugar daddies, and they just feel like their shit doesn't stink.
While most women do want to fuck, not all of them want to fuck you or me or feel good when fucking for money. Some do, some don't. And there are some women where sex is not important to them (I can think of at least one very well known prepago who does her best to avoid as much sex as she can. And prefer to drink and eat on the gringos dime).
I am glad you have gotten good service from 8's and 9's. I suspect you are in the minority on that one. Of course, your vision of an 8 or 9 might be different from mine, which has been well discussed here.
I would add that most 8's and 9's you find are, in fact, hardened pros. Which goes back to the non-GFE / too many rules / performance issues. How many 8's and 9's are mongers pursuing who are not prepagos / putas / escorts / semi-pros or whatever you want to call them? I agree that if you can find a try 8/9 who is not into sex for money and is not otherwise self-absorbed, you could have a good time. But I don't have that kind of time. I already spend a lot of time cultivating chicas on FB. With some girls, I have met them through cousins or friends and have had to wait years to have them (because of age). But it was worth the wait. Because they were pretty fresh. I am waiting for another who turns 18 in April. Cousin of a girl I was banging quite regularly 4-6 years ago.
You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post. This doesn't have to do anything with the looks, you could fuck an average looking Parque Lleras girl and get equally shitty service, I think we all have been there, done that. My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.
Elvis 2008
02-04-22, 21:46
I already analyzed about situation like yours. You need to be cream of the crop to date cream of the crop. In reality, men likely are dating the lower tier relatively speaking in online dating situation. The reason you are getting it is because you are sharing it. I know someone who does not have problem getting what he wants. He has money but little time so he always line up several girls a day. His deal with girls involves luxury items and cash. When a girl can't make it, the girl introduce another smoking hot girl as replacement. He is not handsome but his generosity makes him the cream of the crop.When I was an American sugar daddy and was down to never be monogamous, and always had may, that would happen a lot. A girl would not just bring a girl in to replace her but show up for a threesome. She enhanced her friendship to the girl by introducing her to me and also putting $$$ in her pocket. However, this was enhanced P4P.
So I am wondering why Elvis wears a suit, now it all makes sense.It would if I tried in the USA but in the USA I was trying to temper down expectations as the women there have no limit to what they would ask for.
I dressed up in the Latin countries and was selling a lifestyle in the Latin countries selling the notion if you go with me, we will stay in hotels like this and eat at high end place and go to high end resorts. It was a notion of if you fuck me, all your dreams will come true and for some girls, it either happened or almost did.
With the American women, they were willing to share. It was just money for sex, but when I took vacations with women in the Latin counties, they were not willing. They wanted it for themselves. Some even had boyfriends and left them behind.
JJBee kind of gets to the truth. There are more ways to attract women that just money and looks, but they are the easiest for them to spot. He even talks about being a safe place for women, and you can get them that way, and I have, but you are not anyone's first choice if you are just safe.
There is a difference between attracting and keeping them. The second part was always easier for me, even when it was just dry sex for money. To keep women, you have to show them a good time.
What do women want? Well, even if the women do not use social media to show off, they want a life where if they posted on social media, it would drive the friends green with envy.
RonaldoV7191
02-04-22, 22:16
Hello fellow Mongers!
Am a junior monger finally got a pass from wife going to Medellin.
I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?
Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena.
Thanks.
I'd say you have some power online on Facebook of Tinder in terms of the story you tell with your profile pictures and profile. So it's not always 2000 to one odds with attractive girls if your profile sticks out from the crowd. A good profile enhances what you have to work with and tells a narrative about you will help you stick out. The story you tell could be "I'm rich", or "I'm a world traveler / adventurous", or "I'm edgy" or as many of you do "I live or spend lots of time in Medellin". I was just watching the Tinder Swindler on Netflix last night. It's gives some interesting insights in what grabs some women's attention on tinder etc.
In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.
RedMan0505
02-05-22, 00:41
Hello fellow Mongers!
Am a junior monger finally got a pass from wife going to Medellin.
I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?
Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena.
Thanks.Get on stripchat that pops up when you log on ISG, my trip is plan for June but been getting WhatsApp numbers from them a couple dudes even message they could get me certain models, and tinder is golden. My next trip is Lisbon in March not getting any love, but them central and South Americans are thirsty. Good Luck.
...I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?
Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena. Thanks.All you have to do my friend is read back a couple of pages on this forum, and you will have all the answers you want.
KinkyEngineer
02-05-22, 03:21
Osteoknot, based on my experience of Latinas, being on the same wavelength as them buys you a lot and explains your recent luck. Jessie seems like a gem. Can you share a bit more about her? Where did you find that little stunner?
Some kind of energy nexus point, as yet to be defined. Two more girls came over late and did not expect payment, Scarlet and unbeknownst to me, Super Groovy came-a-knocking on my door after I told Scarlet I wouldn't pay her to visit. I assumed that meant she would not come but I was wrong. That makes six girls in a row. Scarlet has novia status in my line-up so she does not have to be paid but I usually give her at least a hundred mil COP because she is so poor so you can call that one a cheat and I will acquiesce. I still gave Super 40 mil COP for cab fare but she definitely was not expecting it by the expression and sound that came out of her moufus, you know, one of those Scooby Doo's.
So yesterday ended up being a five girl day, way above my average of 3.2 to 3.3 this trip. This really is a different culture here. When Caribe got off her night shift from the Web camming studio this morning, she walked in (I left the door open for her) walked over to my bed, threw the covers back. The first words out of her mouth were, "Why isn't your cock hard?" She then dragged me out of bed, pushed me in the shower before she would have sex with me. I don't know how she knew I had not showered since Scarlet and Super left late last night, but she did. By the time I got out of the shower, she was passed out asleep. Where she is now.
And not to berate the point, but it looks like the 7th girl not expecting payment is coming over later, although I did promise to take her out to eat and to buy her one cute thing to wear, and of course pay taxi. Like a date. And my outlay will be roughly half compared to fair market value of Pay for Play. So of course, there never really is such a thing as "free", we all pay in the end, one way or another.
Why ask why? I am going to ride this wave until it reaches shore and I have no idea how far from the beach I am. Ostee Out and let's Keep On Keepin' On, together. I am running on fumes. Back to the salt mines and time to dig deep..
KinkyEngineer
02-05-22, 04:03
Hi gents,
A fresh apprentice here hoping to gain some practical knowledge. Currently considering a trip back to Colombia late Feb / early March (first visited in Dec 2020).
I'm coming in here with a slightly different angle in the sense that I'm younger than most on here (just hit 30 a month ago) and P4P has been a fantasy of mine for a long time. I'm 6 ft3, in good shape and don't really have issues pulling a girl in a normal way (please don't take it as me being arrogant). I was quite successful during my last trip meeting girls naturally / through Tinder and even met a mixed Colombian / English couple and experienced the best MMF / cuckold fun with them on several occasions (one of the reasons I want to come back to Colombia. I find the women there incredibly sexy in terms of their looks and attitude).
Now, because it is going to be my first mongering experience I'd prefer to meet a girl with the right attitude. A GFE with a hot and feisty Latina, without all the complications and drama of a relationship.
What's the best way of finding the right girl for this? Tinder?
I never see any reference to pages like mileroticos on this forum? What's your experience of using it?
On accommodation, I see most mention hotels. Are there specific reasons you don't feel comfortable using AirBnBs and just bringing the girls to your place?
Lastly, does anyone know the Colombian swinging scene (I'm new to punter lifestyle but definitely not a newbie when it comes to MMF etc.)? Any specific websites / clubs etc that you could recommend? I'd love to experience some group fun again or even possibly a full on GB party on this occasion.
Feel free to send me a pm with any recommendations. All the help will be much appreciated.
I was trying to be helpful but I could have gotten my facts wrong. I was there. I experienced it. My Spanish is good enough to comprehend it. I even asked the chicas I was with at the time if there were different prices on different days, because I did not think their answer made sense the first time and they said "no". Probably, I fucked up. Been known to happen, more than once or twice. I am a Truth Seeker so misinformation cuts me like a knife. Thanks for the help. Lesson learned.I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.
Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.
I'd say you have some power online on Facebook of Tinder in terms of the story you tell with your profile pictures and profile. So it's not always 2000 to one odds with attractive girls if your profile sticks out from the crowd. A good profile enhances what you have to work with and tells a narrative about you will help you stick out. The story you tell could be "I'm rich", or "I'm a world traveler / adventurous", or "I'm edgy" or as many of you do "I live or spend lots of time in Medellin". I was just watching the Tinder Swindler on Netflix last night. It's gives some interesting insights in what grabs some women's attention on tinder etc.The number 2000 is from JB and MiamiBoy but it does not matter that much. I am mainly talking about the asymmetric nature of online dating. Use what you said as an example. I simplify it here and assume you look like Brad Pitt. Do you agree that you will get a lot more swipes than an average looking guy? As a result you already have many choices without effort so you become selective and you don't need to swipe too many woman.
ColombiaLover
02-05-22, 05:26
A true centro love story! I love it. Good for you man. Maybe I need to head down there and talk to the candy girls. Nice.
I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.
Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.
I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.
Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.I would say "strong work" but you were having too much fun to call it work, jajaja.
A true centro love story! I love it. Good for you man. Maybe I need to head down there and talk to the candy girls. Nice.Yes, the candy girls at the bottom of the heap, literally anything goes with them, and I guess hitting the backdoor without a jimmy hat and blowing loads in them is pretty common.
I've had my share of candy girls, but only opted for the front door with them.
I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.
Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.If your not the definition of a "Centro Street Rat", I don't know what is.
Most guys show up here, sample the wares in Centro, and the majority of them run for the hills, but a few develop into a street rat after awhile. Meaning they have to earn their whiskers one rato at a time.
However in your case, you basically went for the full Monty with this candy girl, who was all in.
Your probably are already hunting down your next "candy girl", and you might want to try the "coffee girls' as well, but they are not as low on the totem pole as the candy girls.
What you experienced, and did, is not all that uncommon there, albeit I personally wouldn't do everything that you did.
Osteoknot, based on my experience of Latinas, being on the same wavelength as them buys you a lot and explains your recent luck. Jessie seems like a gem. Can you share a bit more about her? Where did you find that little stunner?Just like Pumpkin, and countless others, she was a random, Ground Zero find, priced at fair market value.
Don't let anyone tell you there is not prime Pickens down there around the Vera Cruz Church. And if you broaden your mind and look at some of the other "types" of girls that don't meet up to your "standards" you will get some of the best performances you can imagine. I like all girl types, body sizes, colors, hair, etc. Of course attitude and personality reign supreme but with a little extra work you can get both.
The trick is to enjoy the journey along the way and not make it so goal oriented. That is one the ways I can tell if I am dealing with an amateur or a professional fellow monger. The seasoned pros who learn from their experiences truly broaden their base on the types of girls they will fuck. They don't "settle" for girls they don't want or lower their standards, but they develop an honest, new appreciation for different types of girls. Win-win.
Of course, the assumption there is that being a "pro" at mongering is a desirable thing, and that is a much more debatable point than any kind of rating system, jajajaaja. Thanks for the input and let's keep this fun while we Keep On Keepin' On.
......I would add that most 8's and 9's you find are, in fact, hardened pros. Which goes back to the non-GFE / too many rules / performance issues. How many 8's and 9's are mongers pursuing who are not prepagos / putas / escorts / semi-pros or whatever you want to call them?.....Another issue I have experienced with 8's or 9's is that their pussies tend to be a bit loose as they would have been banged by many more men than 6's or 7's.
BigMacAlex540
02-05-22, 16:04
Headed to Colombia in few weeks, was wondering how reliable mileroticos or photoprepagos was? Any stories, cautions, or better sites available to recommend?
Because conceptually, so far none of the posters here have demonstrated they have the ability to understand it. I did not say lack of intelligence, I said ability. I realize this effort will be mostly wasted but if only one or two of you lurkers get it, then it's worth it.
My first response at the start of the Covid epidemic? 2019? I forget, I have time dyslexia.
Anywho, back in the beginning, we held a "Covid Party" among friends. Designed to spread and catch the virus. This worked, about 48 hours later I got sick and I instantly could feel it was unlike any infection I ever had before. The data up until this point was uncorrupted.
This concept is not new. Back in the1950's and even after the Varicella vaccine came out, moms used to have Chicken Pox parties, get everyone cross-infected and then immune in one fell swoop. How many of you all knew that? If you didn't know it, and your mind is not at least partially blown but what I have written, then don't bother reading me any further on this topic.
More to come.
Will let the fotos do the talking.
The chica under the sheets has an optical illusion about where is her head?
If your not the definition of a "Centro Street Rat", I don't know what is.This is mostly opinion but I get the feeling you consider "Centro Street Rat" the bottom tier. Not necessarily the worst, but bottom tier. But she has a job. She is selling candy. She has a fall-back and can make a little money without selling her wet holes. She can be more discerning about who she fucks, or not. So for lack of a better word, she is more "respectable" than a full-time puta Centro Street Rat, or lower still, a glue-sniffer who you have to clean up with a looong hot shower before you do her. Of course, it all depends on the definition of your terms.
Headed to Colombia in few weeks, was wondering how reliable mileroticos or photoprepagos was? Any stories, cautions, or better sites available to recommend?There may be a link on this website that could be helpful to you. If you had bothered to do any research on your own. Go to Reports of Distinction and read a few pages. That should tell you the basics.
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