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ColombiaLover
02-17-22, 01:57
Where were you looking? There are hotties all over Medellin. There are hardened girls (like anywhere), but most of the ones I see are anything but that. And even though I would not mind passing time with chicas over 25, most of my girls are much younger. By the way, I'm primarily a FB guy and I do my homework. No Gustos, no strip clubs, no centro, and don't bother with casas any more.
My problem was the girls were just not that attractive, hardened, and older looking.
BlackThought
02-17-22, 02:46
Call me superstitious when I travel or maybe I've just watched too many movies. But when you're getting substances from people you don't know and giving them to people you don't really know Bad things can happen. You can tell the police whatever you want and they're going to accuse you of it anyway. So get ready to fork some serious cash.You need to go out more. Drugs are widely used everywhere. Bet you still think cannabis is evil.
BlackThought
02-17-22, 02:51
I don't post enough but just wanted to point out how short sighted this approach is. You can absolutely pay for good sex, a simple exchange of money for services and there is no limit of chicas offering that in Colombia (or any part of the world). But what you will miss out on are many hidden extras that you only get when a girl has a good time in your company. I've had girls wanting to stay the night at no extra cost but plenty of extra sex, girls hanging out for hours just chilling and fucking, again no extra cost, girls doing many extra 'services' for no extra cost that were not agreed before hand but they wanted to do because they enjoyed the vibe and were having a nice time. You can absolutely pay for all this but that way always feels a lot more mechanical to me, having a girl get ready to leave then unzip your trousers to give you one last impromptu blow job before she heads out is a hell of a lot better than giving her 50 k to do it.
Put it this way, you ever chill in a bar and get along with the bar staff and they give you a free shot? Generally feels better than paying for it, but maybe that's just me. Worth noting I'm not aiming for those 9's, prefer a little hotty who's a 7 or 8 who I can chill with and then go wild with in the cama, the service is usually much better in my experience but that's just me.Well said. If the chemistry is there, it improves the overall experience.
Shagmeister7777
02-17-22, 02:54
ISG friends, I'll be going on my maiden trip to Medellin in March.
I'll be staying in Poblado for sure and most likely an apartment. Will be getting a two bedroom apt even though it's only me. One bedroom for the extracurricular activities and the other for sleeping and work. I'll be working for Medellin and therefore will be carrying my work laptop. How do you all secure your personal belongings like laptops, iphones, ipads, bose speaker, etc. I was thinking I'd lock all of that away in my suitcase and bicycle lock my suitcase to the bed or some other immovable structure. What are your thoughts on this?
As far as how I'll meet my preys, I've been working SA and FB hard. Some good prospects on both. I'm inclined to try someone in their 30's. What's the groups experience with the older chicas? I've been reading several trip reports where guys are bringing back pre and post op transexuals thinking they're females. How can one tell? Is it ok to ask an FB / SA chica if she's 100% female? Not sure what the conversation leads to. My MO will be to meet these women in public places and then filter them there. Will not bring any back to my place that have the slightest hint of a negative attitude and anyone that sets off my TS radar.
Thank you in advance for any tips you can pass my way.
I agree, but tell that to the police if a chica ioverdoses at your place and you provided her with substances. Perhaps she just has a bad reaction. Shit happens.If a person consistently chooses their course in life based on what adverse event might occur more than 2 standard deviations away from the mean, then you will be eternally stifled. For me, that would be an incredibly boring life. For you, perhaps it is safer and better that way.
Ostee Out, you may have certainly have the last word if you wish on this thread. Ciao'.
FlappyGilmore
02-17-22, 03:36
If you're in a bar in centro and meet a chica or pass a streetwalker you want some time with where do you recommend taking them?
Logistically speaking do you guys recommend mapping out short time motels ahead of time or what? I definitely don't want to rely on them to find a place and walking around for blocks trying to find a short time place or taxi back to Poblado.
I'm thinking of getting a daytime place in centro for the sole purpose of having a reliable location in that area.
Anyone has every right to spend US $250 or ten times that amount per day. That said, US $250 is an absurdly high amount of money measured against the Medellin market. Notice that I am mentioning Medellin and not the United States. As I often say, the moment I see spend justification based on what something would cost in the United States it's a tell that someone knows he is paying more than necessary. Again, everyone has the right to do that but let's be real about it and not try to rationalize it based on illogical references to some other place.
Hence the reason the girls think every gringo will pay them an outrageous amount. To each his own. $250 USD is huge money for a colombiana in one day. One month's salary at the minimum. I can't imagine what a girl would have to look like and perform like to pay her that much. But everyone has their own philosophy.
Where were you looking? There are hotties all over Medellin. There are hardened girls (like anywhere), but most of the ones I see are anything but that. And even though I would not mind passing time with chicas over 25, most of my girls are much younger. By the way, I'm primarily a FB guy and I do my homework. No Gustos, no strip clubs, no centro, and don't bother with casas any more.What is the FB and why don't you bother with all those other methods? Those methods seem more reliable whereas facebook they can just flake on you, and you don't even get to size them up before taking them out.
What you say makes a lot of sense to me. You never know what sort of reaction someone can have to what may be in a random batch of dope. Thank goodness we don't see much of the fentanyl contamination problem here. It's killing people on a daily basis in the US and Europe. If a party time goes sideways, you can get away with it as long as you are prepared. The real problems happen when guys are so fucked up they don't notice the problem until it's too late. It doesn't even have to involve a Chinese synthetic like tusi. If somebody goes overboard with beer or aguardiente and starts puking while passed out, you better be ready to deal with it.
Call me superstitious when I travel or maybe I've just watched too many movies. But when you're getting substances from people you don't know and giving them to people you don't really know Bad things can happen. You can tell the police whatever you want and they're going to accuse you of it anyway. So get ready to fork some serious cash.
MadMax9336
02-17-22, 04:29
You can try Lifeafar, Poblado Suites. They have chica friendly rentals in Poblado at fairly reasonable prices. No personal experience with them, but someone on ISG has stayed there.
If you are going with the Love Motel option, Las Cabanas is probably the closest to the Parque Lleras area. However, if you're getting in a taxi already, you might as well take another 5-10 minutes and go to Motel Ibiza. It's not too far, the rooms are excellent and the price is around 100 k for 6 hours (just over $25), plus whatever you get from the mini bar..Thanks Jj,
Noted all the information including the negotiation (polite) phrases as well.
Actually perfect timing as the FB girl that I was chatting for the past one week (she is the one who sent request actually) finally opened up by saying "I wanted to be with you for one week and I will loose the income from my work (never told where she works and how much she makes and requesting to take care of it. " I asked how much do you make for the week but she never responded back. Well I played along and told not to leave your work and meet me after work and lets see how it goes. Probably will confront when she comes to meet me at a mall and see if the FB pic vs real pic and character matches or not. If I did not get vibe. Just give her taxi fare and move on with other FB girls. But the rest of them, I will straight away will ask to avoid back and forth discussion as I don't have much time after sightseeing during the day.
Cannot thank you enough to you and Oste for all the motivation and valueble information.
BTW. Apart form Zen Spa in Rio Sur mall and Akzara spa in poblado. Any other massage parlours worth checking. As I love massages with FS daily as I highly doubt the FB girls will really do anything on that front.
Any recent DP's of casa scene. As per notes. Newlife ($30/ TLN $50), Spa Energias, Loutron's are still stand good right? Any other casa worth trying?
I will be on ground between 20th to 25th and would love to meetup for a drink or coffee or at least greet the Medellin gurus to show the gratitude for the wealth of information shared.
Max.
you need to wife up in the states and call it a career like Tom Brady did.Liked it, will steal and use.
PepolesBuddy
02-17-22, 06:54
With the pandemic I don't know what's open or closed anymore. Which swinger club is your favorite and why? Do you all know the cover charges to these places?
Club Swinger.
https://www.theclubswinger.com/
This was my go to spot. Cover used to be free before 10 pm.
La piscina? Aka Laureles.
CL. 52 ##73-46, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.
Sweet dreams? Aka ubp.
Av. 33 #75 see 66 Segundo Piso, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.
Sentir club swinger? Aka belen.
Calle 30#80-56, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.
Club swinger open minded?
This one is all the way out in san jeronimo.
So no one really answered my questions from last week but what would you guys recommend for a first timer to do?
Hence the reason the girls think every gringo will pay them an outrageous amount. To each his own. $250 USD is huge money for a colombiana in one day. One month's salary at the minimum. I can't imagine what a girl would have to look like and perform like to pay her that much. But everyone has their own philosophy.I'm not paying her $250, I pay her the 500 k in COP and the rest is what I estimate in spending on food / transportation for the day I spend with the girl. It's not just a short time.
I agree that $250 is too much just to fuck, but if I'm spending an entire day and night with a good looking girl which we have some chemistry, that's a steal.
Bought my tickets, and realized that I'll be flying out of MDE, early Monday morning at 5 am. Are there any locations that do testing on Sunday for the 24 HR requirements?
I couldn't find much information on the airport testing at MDE, is that open 24 hours? Would I be able to get to the airport at 2 in the morning and just get a test there? Thanks in advance.If you are returning to the US, the requirement is one day before, rather than 24 hours. In your situation it doesn't matter much, departing at 5 AM, but for anyone leaving later in the day it does give them more time.
There are labs in Medellin which test 7 days per week. The US Embassy has a PDF file listing testing locations throughout Colombia, just search for Covid testing Medellin. You will need to check the different lab websites to find one available for when you need it.
Many labs will come to your apartment or hotel room, but you will need to schedule the appointment 2 or 3 days in advance.
Call me superstitious when I travel or maybe I've just watched too many movies. But when you're getting substances from people you don't know and giving them to people you don't really know Bad things can happen. You can tell the police whatever you want and they're going to accuse you of it anyway. So get ready to fork some serious cash.There are easy ways to avoid this situation.
1. If you don't use drugs, don't buy them to give to others.
2. If you're not interested in using drugs with others, don't use drugs with others.
3. If someone else is buying or using drugs with others, don't hang out in their room while they're doing it.
I've had a few girls ask if they could smoke their own marijuana before a session. I either allow it or not depending on the apartment. On. 1 or 2 occasions a girl has asked if I would give her a few extra pesos so she could buy a joint. I know I gave 10 k once. I believe that was the only time.
Many issues aren't issues at all. They are simply judgements on what other people are doing. Let other people do things their way and let them worry about the consequences.
Cost of Passport renewal has gone up from $110 to $130. Sent in for renewal on 01/28/2022. This was regular service. Not expedited. Shocked that I got my new passport on 02/16/2022.
Advise for anyone who uses their passport frequently. Check the box on renewal form that says large book for added pages. No extra cost. Book is not bigger just more pages than the standard issue.
Hence the reason the girls think every gringo will pay them an outrageous amount. To each his own. $250 USD is huge money for a colombiana in one day. One month's salary at the minimum. I can't imagine what a girl would have to look like and perform like to pay her that much. But everyone has their own philosophy.You could say this about almost anything. If one person does anything with 1 girl, then other girls might expect others to provide the same thing. Here are some examples:
1. If one guy takes a girl to San Andres Island, other girls might think other guys will take them to San Andres.
2. If one guy buys a drink, or lunch for a girl, other girls might expect the same.
3. If one guy stays in luxury apartments, other girls might think other guys also stay in luxury apartments.
Looking at it from another angle, if one gringo says he has girls who come over and don't expect any money, other gringos might think they don't have to pay girls to come over. If one gringo says he only does BBFS with girls, other gringos think that's what they can expect.
Take responsibility for your own situation. If a girl asks for an amount you think is outrageous, tell her no thanks. If a girl tells you she requires a condom, either use one, or find a girl who will bareback.
It's been awhile, but my motto remains:
Your dick. Your money. Your business.
If you're in a bar in centro and meet a chica or pass a streetwalker you want some time with where do you recommend taking them?
Logistically speaking do you guys recommend mapping out short time motels ahead of time or what? I definitely don't want to rely on them to find a place and walking around for blocks trying to find a short time place or taxi back to Poblado.
I'm thinking of getting a daytime place in centro for the sole purpose of having a reliable location in that area.I recommend getting a room at hotel calle real. Most girls will have a specific hotel they will be working out of that they will take you to for short time sessions but you can usually get them to go to your hotel if it is nearby. Calle Real is located near the church so it is a good location and also only 40 k COP per day last time I was there. There's a cpl other ones nearby too and in the same price range I think Hotel Plaza Botero rents rooms per day and even Hotel Botero Real rents per day too then you can just go down stairs and bring girls up.
You will find a short time hotel no more than four or five steps from any provider you see in Centro. The hotels vary somewhat in quality and price. They vary much more widely in their acceptance policies. The acceptance policy is something to consider if you decide to rent a place for an entire day or several days. I'm not oversimplifying by saying that "short time hotel" is the opposite of renting for a day or several days. Anyway, some girls don't accept certain hotels and certain hotels don't accept some girls. Premium Plaza is a favorite among gringos. It has hot water and a consistent door policy. While we are on this subject, I happened to notice just yesterday that the short time hotel closest to the back of the museum has been shut down by the authorities. There is a legal notice to that effect across its entrance. It is not a big loss.
If you're in a bar in centro and meet a chica or pass a streetwalker you want some time with where do you recommend taking them?
Logistically speaking do you guys recommend mapping out short time motels ahead of time or what? I definitely don't want to rely on them to find a place and walking around for blocks trying to find a short time place or taxi back to Poblado.
I'm thinking of getting a daytime place in centro for the sole purpose of having a reliable location in that area.
LoveItHere69
02-17-22, 17:35
I recommend getting a room at hotel calle real. Most girls will have a specific hotel they will be working out of that they will take you to for short time sessions but you can usually get them to go to your hotel if it is nearby. Calle Real is located near the church so it is a good location and also only 40 k COP per day last time I was there. There's a cpl other ones nearby too and in the same price range I think Hotel Plaza Botero rents rooms per day and even Hotel Botero Real rents per day too then you can just go down stairs and bring girls up.Calle Real: Prices keep going up. Is more than 40,000 plus I heard several times that they charge 10,000 for each and every girl now. Yes, even the first one.
Botero Real at the corner of the church became super popular. About 8 months ago I stayed there and then left for 2 months. When I returned they changed to short time only. I asked about me staying overnight and they said only from 8 PM to 8 AM so I would have to take everything out each day and store it. Nutz! The place is really dirty now. It was like new when I stayed there 8 months ago.
Hotel Mairuba Calle 52 #53-15? Is the cleanest. They only do hourly for around 15,000. I forgot. No overnight but have hot water. Be careful their floors are like walking on ice when wet!
I liked the service that San Peter apartments recommends. You can whatsapp them at +57 302 2690395 for more info. I set it up 2 days before I left and the nurse came to my apartment the day before. She told me she was willing to fudge dates and times if my flight changed or whatever else. I think I paid 150 k but you can ask them.
Bought my tickets, and realized that I'll be flying out of MDE, early Monday morning at 5 am. Are there any locations that do testing on Sunday for the 24 HR requirements?
I couldn't find much information on the airport testing at MDE, is that open 24 hours? Would I be able to get to the airport at 2 in the morning and just get a test there? Thanks in advance.
Captain Solo
02-17-22, 19:11
Knowledge.
Hotel Premium Plaza is 2 blocks East of please Botero.
You mean Hotel Premier Plaza on Calle 52, half block South of the church and museum?
That's a nice, clean, lively street easy to walk to with the chicas.
Bought my tickets, and realized that I'll be flying out of MDE, early Monday morning at 5 am. Are there any locations that do testing on Sunday for the 24 HR requirements?
I couldn't find much information on the airport testing at MDE, is that open 24 hours? Would I be able to get to the airport at 2 in the morning and just get a test there? Thanks in advance.I've used the MDE airport testing site frequently, and it advertised it is open 24/7. In fact their is a chance I may use them tomorrow Friday? If I get the opportunity to confirm it is still 24/7, I will? Luvchicas luving MDE.
I touch down in Medellin next month. I already have one university girl lined up to stay with me for a few nights, for only 500 thousand COP per day, and she'll pretty much do what I want.How do you know she will do what you want when you haven't even met her? She'll certainly tell you she will do what you want. Then you will give her 250 k and then she will decide what she is going to do. That is a much more likely scenario.
I'm not paying her $250, but if I'm spending an entire day and night with a good looking girl which we have some chemistry, that's a steal.Your correct. It is a steal.
DriftClouds
02-17-22, 19:49
I've used the MDE airport testing site frequently, and it advertised it is open 24/7. In fact their is a chance I may use them tomorrow Friday? If I get the opportunity to confirm it is still 24/7, I will? Luvchicas luving MDE.The testing site at the airport is instant result? How many hours you need to wait for the result?
Are you referring to United States passports?
Cost of Passport renewal has gone up from $110 to $130. Sent in for renewal on 01/28/2022. This was regular service. Not expedited. Shocked that I got my new passport on 02/16/2022.
Advise for anyone who uses their passport frequently. Check the box on renewal form that says large book for added pages. No extra cost. Book is not bigger just more pages than the standard issue.
So no one really answered my questions from last week but what would you guys recommend for a first timer to do?There's a thread devoted to this topic. RTFF as this topic has been covered numerous times before.
To provide some help, it depends where you want to stay and what you want to stay. Airbnbs will have specific terms and House Rules regarding whether guests are allowed and if there's a joiner fee. Most Airbnbs are in apartment buildings (Blux, Energy to name a couple). These buildings have security at the front desk and will check in chicas at entry. They've got to have their cedula. Some allow a specific amount of guests per week (Blux). Others don't (Energy). Look at the rules for each on the Airbnb site and do a search in the forum and your questions will be answered.
Other Airbnbs have self check in keypads which means you can usually bring over as many chicas during your stay as you want, as long as you're not making too much noise and don't violate any other rules (I. E. Drug use, smoking, number of visitors at one time). If you're planning to have numerous guests per day. These are great, you avoid joiner fees. But. There's no front desk or security to screen out chicas, which may not be great for a first timer.
As far as specific Airbnbs. Do your research. They all vary in price and amenities. As well as guest policies. Make your own decision.
Gringo here from the east coast of central American descent. Been thinking of going to Colombia because of all these beauties I see online (IG and Cam sites) till be my first time going outside of the US besides the "old country", I can speak Spanish so I wouldn't have issues there, since ill be getting a nice return from taxes been thinking I might as well use that money to get me some nice play in Colombia instead of going for local girls in the US. Was wondering what y'all recommend I should do if I do go for a week or 2 in terms of stay (AirBnB or hotel? I'm honestly just an average looking guy nothing special about me, would it be easy to walk around and pick a girl up or should I use a website / app? Also since I'm a trigueo (this goes to the gringos of Latin American descent) would that hurt my chances if I were to walk around?
Now I'm not tryna sound like an asshole I'm just trying to figure out or guess what my money would be worth but how much would 100-120 USD (average) get me in Medellin because here in the east coast that gets me like 15 to 30 minutes depending on the girl. Also how do you guys fund yourself do you guys take all / most in cash or just withdraw money? All the money ID use would be for girls because I plan on paying other stuff with CC for example my stay and food whenever possible.
What's the opinion of girls in Colombia with videos? Are thick girls (not BBW just slightly chubby) more expensive?I'll try to answer. It's difficult to give exact answers without a lot more information from you.
First thing, forget Instagram and webcam sites, along with YouTube videos. YouTube videos mostly just give one person's opinion. IG and webcams will waste a lot of your time and money with minimal returns. You'll be competing with guys who are happy to spend lots of money for just the online interactions.
Where and how to find girls depends on what you're comfortable with. What works for you in the US? You should concentrate on the Colombian equivalent. At least to get started. Knowing Spanish will work in your favor.
Where to stay is another decision based upon your experience and comfort level. The easiest solution is to stay at the Mansion (Search Hotel M Medellin). There will be other, experienced mongers there who can help you out and there are girls available onsite. It's not the cheapest option, but it's reasonable compared to US hotels. About $200 per day should cover food, lodging and 2 girls. If that's your choice, book several weeks in advance. They tend to be busy.
With hotels you will often be charged extra for bringing girls to your room, or you might be limited on the number of guests. Some will not allow any guests. Most will require the girls to have a valid ID.
You could run into the same issues with Airbnb. Pay attention to the description and rules.
Some guys prefer a place where access is controlled. This adds a level of security, but can also cause problems. For a first timer, having someone screening visitors is probably best.
The prices for companionship vary greatly. I'll cover some of the options. The price ranges depend on location. All of these are for CFS. Some will require more for anything beyond what you probably get for your money in the US. None of these prices are exact. Also you should be negotiating in pesos and not dollars.
Street girls range from less than $15 for about 30 minutes to about $100 for an hour.
Strip club girls go from around $20 for 30 minutes or so to $75 for 45-60 minutes.
Casas run from under $15 for 30 minutes to $75 or more per hour.
Online advertisers start around $20 per hour and go up. Many are in-call locations, similar to what you would find on the sites used in the US.
Social media girls (primarily Facebook) mostly start less than $40 and there are some getting $200 or more. Many are available for around $60. It's common to get GFE from these girls, including BBBJ. Most will stay for a least an hour at that price and multiple hours with MSOG is fairly common.
Freelancers in night clubs can expect from $50 up to $500 or more. That price might get you an hour or all night.
There are other options, but that should give you an idea.
Can you just walk around and pick up a girl? Yes, no and maybe. It depends on where you are, how easily you interact with others and many other things. How you operate in the US will have a lot to do with how you find girls.
Most guys pull money as needed from an ATM. Whether this is best depends on your bank. I keep 2 checking accounts in 2 separate banks. Because of conversion fees and out of network ATM fees, it's better for me to take cash and exchange it, for one of my accounts. For the other account I get a better rate by withdrawing local currency from an ATM. I mostly get money from the ATM, but I bring some cash, in case of an emergency. I also am setup so I can transfer money from one of my accounts to a cash pickup location, similar to using Western Union. That's just for a serious emergency. One bit of advice, only carry what you expect to spend.
My guess is that the majority of girls will not be completely open with you taking video. In many cases, paying more will change their mind. The same is true for most things. If you require something extra, you can often get it by pulling out your money.
The cost for any particular girl on any given day can and will vary. A thick girl might want double or half of what another girl wants. Focus instead on what you want to pay. Pick girls who fit your budget and meet your requirements.
Since you mentioned spending your income tax return on the trip, I assume you will be on a budget. Fortunately, Colombia is very inexpensive. It's possible to eat 3 meals daily and spend less than $10. Reasonable hotels or apartments can be found for $25-$45 per night, or less. Taxis will take you almost anywhere you need to go, except to and from the airport, for under $5 and $2-$3 is common. The airport will cost under $25 (by taxi).
Your correct. It is a steal.A steal of the dudes money by the chica. That's like a million fucking pesos. I can get TLN amanecidas as they call them here in 200 k COP.
The testing site at the airport is instant result? How many hours you need to wait for the result?You should get results from the airport lab in under 1 hour.
I happened to notice just yesterday that the short time hotel closest to the back of the museum has been shut down by the authorities. There is a legal notice to that effect across its entrance. It is not a big loss.Is that the crappy one on cra 53 behind the museum where you walk up the stairs and it's real small in the reception area and they have these crappy doors that close like a closet??
Your description matches several of the lowest end places. The one that is shut down is nearer to the back of the museum than any other.
Is that the crappy one on cra 53 behind the museum where you walk up the stairs and it's real small in the reception area and they have these crappy doors that close like a closet??
Are you referring to United States passports?I assumed he was talking about Chinese passports. The most commonly held in the world.
LoveItHere69
02-18-22, 00:44
Your description matches several of the lowest end places. The one that is shut down is nearer to the back of the museum than any other.Sorry but Hotel Mairuba Calle 52 #53-17 is closer but you have to cross the street with car traffic on it to get to it. Nobody ever mentions that hotel so I assume very few people now of its existence. If you stay on the same side as the museum Carrera 53 and walk past the dead space (brick wall of building) you will get to the ST hotel with the closet doors.
DriftClouds
02-18-22, 00:47
I totally agree. I go online to find normal chicks to date. If I want a hooker in Colombia then I know where to find them cheap and without wasting tons of time. I have never understood preplotting hookers. For me, getting a hooker is more of a spur of the moment, on the spot, impulse purchase. I wouldn't plan particular ones weeks in advance.But so many of us don't speak Spanish, where do you meet semi-pro normal girls? Pick up lines at street? Bars? Like, A lot of us are incel and never developed those skills in the USA.
Are you referring to United States passports?Yes, I am in the States. Sent to the passport agency in Texas. Was surprised how quickly it came back. Of course if I needed it back quick I am sure it wouldn't have.
Don't know if it'll help anyone but here we go anyway. This Vennie girl named Daniela used to work in Santa Fe in Bogota and now she has moved onto Medellin. Two years ago when I went to BOG, she stole some money out of my pants pocket. Not much but annoying enough for me to tell the cops who grabbed her from her hotel and threw her in jail for a few days. The Vennies all know each other so this time when I came back to BOG, a girl told me Daniela moved onto Medellin and is bragging about how there are so many foreigners in Medellin and how much money she's stealing money them. Anyways she looks like a generic Latina, so I'm not sure if this helps but here's her photo attached and her FB profile.
But so many of us don't speak Spanish, where do you meet semi-pro normal girls? Pick up lines at street? Bars? Like, A lot of us are incel and never developed those skills in the USA.So why would you expect that you can pick up sem-pro normal girls? Seems bizzare to me. Your options are money for honey.
I would never expect to meet young non-working girls. I am over 60, and although I speak Spanish why on earth would a 20's or early 30"s want with me, other than money. And for a chica that does not do it for money what would it be? Although one of my buddies did meet a certified paranoid chica that wanted him as a boyfriend.
So why would you expect that you can pick up sem-pro normal girls? Seems bizzare to me. Your options are money for honey.
I would never expect to meet young non-working girls. .Exactly. Some people have really weird expectations and demands. I wonder of that's why they are single.
I'll try to answer. It's difficult to give exact answers without a lot more information from you.
First thing, forget Instagram and webcam sites, along with YouTube videos. YouTube videos mostly just give one person's opinion. IG and webcams will waste a lot of your time and money with minimal returns. You'll be competing with guys who are happy to spend lots of money for just the online interactions.
Where and how to find girls depends on what you're comfortable with. What works for you in the US? You should concentrate on the Colombian equivalent. At least to get started. Knowing Spanish will work in your favor.
Where to stay is another decision based upon your experience and comfort level. The easiest solution is to stay at the Mansion (Search Hotel M Medellin). There will be other, experienced mongers there who can help you out and there are girls available onsite. It's not the cheapest option, but it's reasonable compared to US hotels. About $200 per day should cover food, lodging and 2 girls. If that's your choice, book several weeks in advance. They tend to be busy.
With hotels you will often be charged extra for bringing girls to your room, or you might be limited on the number of guests. Some will not allow any guests. Most will require the girls to have a valid ID.
You could run into the same issues with Airbnb. Pay attention to the description and rules.
Some guys prefer a place where access is controlled. This adds a level of security, but can also cause problems. For a first timer, having someone screening visitors is probably best..Don't really care about the beef with you and Mr E. Both of you guys are a wealth of info. Gracias!
Don't know if it'll help anyone but here we go anyway. This Vennie girl named Daniela used to work in Santa Fe in Bogota and now she has moved onto Medellin. Two years ago when I went to BOG, she stole some money out of my pants pocket. Not much but annoying enough for me to tell the cops who grabbed her from her hotel and threw her in jail for a few days. The Vennies all know each other so this time when I came back to BOG, a girl told me Daniela moved onto Medellin and is bragging about how there are so many foreigners in Medellin and how much money she's stealing money them. Anyways she looks like a generic Latina, so I'm not sure if this helps but here's her photo attached and her FB profile.Appreciate the heads up. In the future put your cash in a zip up purse and keep it in your front pants pocket. Roll up your jeans and keep them next to you at all times. Carry them with you to the bathroom when you go. This way no one can steal from you as it's just way too difficult. Notice I said jeans. If you are running around in slacks, cargo shorts, socks and sandals, etc. There's no hope for you anyway. Suerte.
But so many of us don't speak Spanish, where do you meet semi-pro normal girls? Pick up lines at street? Bars? Like, A lot of us are incel and never developed those skills in the USA.First thing, well done for going back and reading the forum. Not only did you go back, but you went way back. Not many will put in the effort.
Unfortunately, you wound up in a place where every answer is wrong, or right, depending on who you ask. It's entirely subjective and very few people will consider your situation and your comfort level. In some cases taking the advice offered is an expensive mistake.
I'll let you in on a little secret. Almost every guy is "incel" until they learn what works for them. Once you figure it out, you'll be amazed at how easy it is. Unfortunately, there's no one method. You'll have to find a solution that fits you.
Fortunately, in places like Medellin there's a simple and cheap solution (compared to the US). The only difficult part is deciding where you want to get the girls.
You need to start with your skill set. Both MrEnternational and The Tall Man have been traveling for pussy for a long time, and both speak Spanish. TTM lives in Medellin, so his situation won't help you. Not knowing Spanish isn't an insurmountable problem, neither is a lack of skills in picking up women. It just means you probably won't have much success chatting up random women.
While plenty of guys will tell you there's no need to try and set up girls in advance, it's probably your best bet for a successful trip. If you have someone with Medellin experience to guide you, there are plenty of options. But if you try going solo, you might not feel comfortable enough to pull the trigger.
Here are a few recommendations, in no particular order:
1. The Medellin Mansion. It's a hotel where working girls hang out at the pool during the day and in the bar at night. Many of the guys who stay there have been coming to Medellin for years. They will be happy to help you get laid. There are guys on the forum who will look down their noses at you if you stay there. However, you should be more interested in getting laid than in having some stranger pat you on the back. It's the easiest way to get women in your bed. You'll pay more for lodging and for girls, but it's still reasonable.
2. Casas, casas de citas or casas de chicas. Brothels. You might have to climb some stairs and there's a door to open, but that's the hardest part. Once inside you'll be guided towards a place to sit and the girls will come out and introduce themselves. Pick one, she'll guide you to a room and take care of business. Some places ask for payment in advance, some places you pay when you finish. Service and selection aren't always the best, but most casas are cheap.
3. Strip clubs. Prices are a bit higher than a comparable casa.
4. Facebook. Many people will tell you it's a waste of time. Others will tell you it's the best source of girls in Medellin. One big advantage is that you can work on it any time. Once you get started, you can add a few more girls whenever you have 2 minutes to spare. Eventually, Facebook will start recommending girls to you. At some point, girls will come looking for you. You just have to decide which ones you want.
How do you know she will do what you want when you haven't even met her? She'll certainly tell you she will do what you want. Then you will give her 250 k and then she will decide what she is going to do. That is a much more likely scenario.Correct, I don't know, but I have had a handful of other girls who were largely the same deal before. I have managed to find girls who will play my girlfriend for a day or two or however long is decided. I have spoken to countless girls off of Tinder, IG, and Facebook, I have a good sense of when a girl is telling me what she thinks I want to hear or when she seems genuine. I scout girls a month or two before my trips and the good ones are the ones who become friends with me and talk to me (they initiate conversations) during that time. This builds chemistry and she becomes more comfortable with me and we talk about what I like and what she likes to do, in and out of bed. Before we meet I do not send cash, that's the rule, and if she keeps asking then I block and move on to the next.
I will bring little gifts here and there from the US for these girls (1 or 2 girls per trip to Medellin), be it lingerie or some perfume. The lingerie I buy from Shein or Victoria's Secret panties on sale. I've found that these girls swoon over gifts like that, usually $15 or less, and it will make me look even better in their eyes which makes the experience better all around.
Sure some guys think 500 k per day is a lot, and I do dabble in the occasional casa visit to get my rocks off for 60 k, but sometimes I want that girlfriend experience, and I am paying for the illusion.
If you want to just do an hour or two with one girl and move to the next, there's plenty opportunity for that in Colombia. But for me? Sometimes I want to do other things and not go out alone the whole time I'm on vacation. My main priority in Colombia is to have the best vacation I can possibly have.
I'd love to tag along and check out the scene and get some pointers. Beers on me of course.
Don't know if it'll help anyone but here we go anyway. This Vennie girl named Daniela used to work in Santa Fe in Bogota and now she has moved onto Medellin. Two years ago when I went to BOG, she stole some money out of my pants pocket. Not much but annoying enough for me to tell the cops who grabbed her from her hotel and threw her in jail for a few days. The Vennies all know each other so this time when I came back to BOG, a girl told me Daniela moved onto Medellin and is bragging about how there are so many foreigners in Medellin and how much money she's stealing money them. Anyways she looks like a generic Latina, so I'm not sure if this helps but here's her photo attached and her FB profile.And she has a twin sister named yusne. I know her personally and I'm a client of hers and of her sister but they have never stolen anything from me neither one of them, and on the contrary both of them give really good service although I fuck with the sister more often than her.
Joe Bandit
02-18-22, 09:59
I really appreciate the quick responses gentlemen. I was thinking of changing my flight to a later time, but maybe I can try to get the test done on a Sunday.
If you are returning to the US, the requirement is one day before, rather than 24 hours. In your situation it doesn't matter much, departing at 5 AM, but for anyone leaving later in the day it does give them more time.
There are labs in Medellin which test 7 days per week. The US Embassy has a PDF file listing testing locations throughout Colombia, just search for Covid testing Medellin. You will need to check the different lab websites to find one available for when you need it.
Many labs will come to your apartment or hotel room, but you will need to schedule the appointment 2 or 3 days in advance.Thanks JjBee62, I seem to be in a tough spot with the early morning flight. I did look at the PDF list from the Embassy website which lists the hours for the Labs. Apparently none of them are listed as open on Sunday.
I liked the service that San Peter apartments recommends. You can whatsapp them at +57 302 2690395 for more info. I set it up 2 days before I left and the nurse came to my apartment the day before. She told me she was willing to fudge dates and times if my flight changed or whatever else. I think I paid 150 k but you can ask them.I'm actually staying at the San Peter apts. I'll contact the number to see if they can set me up with somebody on a Sunday.
I've used the MDE airport testing site frequently, and it advertised it is open 24/7. In fact their is a chance I may use them tomorrow Friday? If I get the opportunity to confirm it is still 24/7, I will? Luvchicas luving MDE.Thanks LuvChicas, that'd be awesome if you can confirm that they are open specifically on Sunday night / Monday morning. Thanks again and safe travels.
Where were you looking? There are hotties all over Medellin. There are hardened girls (like anywhere), but most of the ones I see are anything but that. And even though I would not mind passing time with chicas over 25, most of my girls are much younger. By the way, I'm primarily a FB guy and I do my homework. No Gustos, no strip clubs, no centro, and don't bother with casas any more.Maybe next time I will concentrate on all SA and see how it goes. I don't do Facebook.
You talking club girls? Or Facebook girls?Club girls, casas, and strip clubs. It's like the whole place changed and the vibe was gone. I remember how much fun I had at Luna Lunera 4 years ago. I go this time and it was a clip joint and no hotties although I talked to one girl before I left after the 150 k minimum to just sit down.
But so many of us don't speak Spanish, where do you meet semi-pro normal girls? Pick up lines at street? Bars? Like, A lot of us are incel and never developed those skills in the USA.Facebook, using google translate. Seems to be work well enough for me, got them messaging me like crazy. I will let you know how it plays out once I get down there. If they are semi-pro than they are still interested in the money. As far as "normal girls" goes, don't bother, remember crazy in the streets = crazy between the sheets.
As for being incel, go easy on yourself, that term has some pretty harsh connotations and let's face it, women in the US are by-and-large absolutely horrible to try and date. The problem might not be you, it could be, but IDK. I know my issue is that, while I have a great personality, I am fat and sort of weird looking. Also I only recently began making decent money and become somewhat successful in my career, so yeah, American women aren't too interested in me. But that's OK, because whenever I leave the US, all of a sudden I am a top catch, pros, semi-pros and "normal" women take interest in me.
Don't know if it'll help anyone but here we go anyway. This Vennie girl named Daniela used to work in Santa Fe in Bogota and now she has moved onto Medellin. Two years ago when I went to BOG, she stole some money out of my pants pocket. Not much but annoying enough for me to tell the cops who grabbed her from her hotel and threw her in jail for a few days. The Vennies all know each other so this time when I came back to BOG, a girl told me Daniela moved onto Medellin and is bragging about how there are so many foreigners in Medellin and how much money she's stealing money them. Anyways she looks like a generic Latina, so I'm not sure if this helps but here's her photo attached and her FB profile.I see photo but not a profile of her Facebook page your talking about, I'm I missing something?
Hi,
Is there anything in Medellin kind of SF low tolerance zone? Many girls in one spot. My goal is to spend less time and effort to search girls, I don't want to run around the city in the hope to get my dream girl. And it's good to see 2 girls a day younger than 25 year old.
What about casas in Medellin Centro via Chapinero?
Thanks.
Hi,
Is there anything in Medellin kind of SF low tolerance zone? Many girls in one spot. My goal is to spend less time and effort to search girls, I don't want to run around the city in the hope to get my dream girl. And it's good to see 2 girls a day younger than 25 year old.
What about casas in Medellin Centro via Chapinero?
Thanks.You really should RTFF. That being said, plaza botero and parque lleras will be what you are looking for. Botero is cheaper and more like Santa Fe. Lleras is more expensive but better quality women although you can find some of the same chicas in botero that work in lleras. As far as casa go I don't really know much about casas as I'm a centro street rat kinda monger. However someone handed me this card the other day for a place called chicas punto com maybe it's worth checking out.
DriftClouds
02-18-22, 20:23
First thing, well done for going back and reading the forum. Not only did you go back, but you went way back. Not many will put in the effort.
Unfortunately, you wound up in a place where every answer is wrong, or right, depending on who you ask. It's entirely subjective and very few people will consider your situation and your comfort level. In some cases taking the advice offered is an expensive mistake.
I'll let you in on a little secret. Almost every guy is "incel" until they learn what works for them. Once you figure it out, you'll be amazed at how easy it is. Unfortunately, there's no one method. You'll have to find a solution that fits you.
Fortunately, in places like Medellin there's a simple and cheap solution (compared to the US). The only difficult part is deciding where you want to get the girls.Appreciate it.
DriftClouds
02-18-22, 20:56
I reached out to a reputable facebook tourguide girl, recommended by many people in this forum. So she does countryside horseriding (literally hose, no implying) tour guide, and she posts her clients photos, mostly mid-age, retired age. I would imagine that tour is beautiful for many 40+ male escaping New-York city lifestyle. But I am horny young guy that need to get it out of my system and live in a small town, like I can look out of the window and there are plenty of grass out there, So I am not so interested in the horse back tour. But based on you guys reports, she is good in bed and sounds like she might make me pop 3 times a day. So I said, "oh, that sounds beautiful, but I am a young guy and I want something hot like fire, do you have other tours? You know what I means?" She replied: "no I don't know what you mean, please be more specific (in Spanish)" So I am thinking that horse back tour sounds like about 5 hours at least, I am thinking that hours of time she charges might be more than the "behind closed door" time. What's y'all experience about that? I like some touring of course. But I don't know how to explicitly say it. I don't want to be rude, she might like her horse touring job better than riding some stranger dudes.
What should I reply? Does she do other tours? Is the "behind closed door" service come with the touring?
You guys know who it is. If you guys know other tour guides that fit my need better, please recommend to me, PM me. Thank you.
I'd love to tag along and check out the scene and get some pointers. Beers on me of course.Hi sure I am here went there yesterday.
I need a couple of links for facebook girls for this weekend nights.
Sureman.
Steve 9696
02-18-22, 21:26
Club girls, casas, and strip clubs. It's like the whole place changed and the vibe was gone. I remember how much fun I had at Luna Lunera 4 years ago. I go this time and it was a clip joint and no hotties although I talked to one girl before I left after the 150 k minimum to just sit down.Ok that makes sense and seems the consistent feedback — that the club scene has gone downhill. I've got a couple buddies swear by Facebook tho. That scene seems uniquely hopping in Medellin and will be almost exclusively my hunting grounds.
I see photo but not a profile of her Facebook page your talking about, I'm I missing something?ISG or admins might have stripped it from my post. Add profile. Php? ID=100069417643447 to the end of facebook dot com. Or search for Dani Hernandez and you'll see her profile pic.
And she has a twin sister named yusne. I know her personally and I'm a client of hers and of her sister but they have never stolen anything from me neither one of them, and on the contrary both of them give really good service although I fuck with the sister more often than her.I don't doubt you at all. There could be many reasons why she doesn't steal from you. Maybe she likes you genuinely. That doesn't apply for all customers she goes with obviously. But Vennie girls here here know her and know what she does. These stories don't just come from me.
World Travel 69
02-18-22, 22:31
On Tinder and Facebook Murders.
https://www.noticiasrcn.com/amp/colombia/dos-extranjeros-fueron-robados-en-medellin-uno-muerto-y-otro-herido-405719
Well we have yet another sinking gringo establishment. What sort of sucker does it take to throw down 30 k or whatever to try and start a business here? I was in there the other night and the only customers were the owner, Joe from Texas and two young Colombians. The former was singing karaoke Johnny Cash and the latter were of course singing reggaeton. Were like the last songs the band played on the Titanic. LOL.
I decided to give it another shot today and the only person there was the bartender who charged me 20 mil for a Smirnoff Ice, a product that sells up and down La 70 for 10 to 12 mil. I got Blo on the phone by her assistance, and he told me that if I didn't like the prices I could go elsewhere. Might as well, as that's what everyone else did, if they ever made it there to begin with.
A lot of us are incel and never developed those skills in the USA.This is so true LOL. I met some girls taking salsa classes down the street from Lleras then going to salsa night around various clubs. Just like puta network, semis and civvies work the same way. You meet one then they introduce you to your friends. This is all moot though, if you are there less than 2 weeks. It takes time to build non pro network but its worth in the long run and cheaper.
JohnnyWalker55
02-18-22, 23:49
Having spent a 3 weeks in santafe earlier and been in medallo lately, the talent in SF is much better. No doubt. Hotter girls.
However I choose mde sw scene any day because of the longer rooms, hotter climate, and much more GFE.
I fucked a cop last week. She was typical 5'2 paisa standing alone on her phone by the estadio metro, I played the American card, spit some game and got her number for a "cafecito".
We met two days later on her day off, she's 27 and a killer body. Wore jeans and a blouse, met at a bar in Buenos Aires near my place, spent 3 hours there and we got pretty sloshed, invited her back to my place and the deed was done. Can't imagine doing that in the states. She didn't have a gun so she was one of those safety cops with a baton LOL.
If you want a horrible experience, go to casa zaza. The mamasan is a beotch and barely acknowledges you, and it shows with the girls. Both times, the girls said I can't kiss their body. Wtf?
you also walk by all the girls on the way to the room after the presentation and half of them were eating fried chicken from frisbys. what a turn on. -_-
Basically casa paris but new ownership.
The MO for me is find the top girl at each casa, the one who likes oyu the most, and hang out with them on their day off, offer 150 k plus food, (though one refused money), and after a few hangout they want it BBFS. Well, two of them have, still working on the third to go raw. one of them has the iud in her bicep which i felt, so easy to bust inside. and she's 21 and a smokeshow w no kids, i guess i wouldnt mind an accident.
If you stay in the right barrio you won't see a gringo, if that's a concern of some here like it is for me.
Best.
Jw.
JohnnyWalker55
02-18-22, 23:55
Unfortunately, you wound up in a place where every answer is wrong, or right, depending on who you ask. It's entirely subjective and very few people will consider your situation and your comfort level. In some cases taking the advice offered is an expensive mistake.
I'll let you in on a little secret. Almost every guy is "incel" until they learn what works for them. Once you figure it out, you'll be amazed at how easy it is. Unfortunately, there's no one method. You'll have to find a solution that fits you.I have been brash before as it may have been deserved (lol) but jjbee is on the money. True words. Just put yourself out there and let the cards fall where they may. There are no shortage of beautiful non pros in mde.
MarquisdeSade1
02-19-22, 01:33
Hvaing spent a 3 weeks in santafe earlier and been in medallo lately, the talent in SF is much better. No doubt. Hotter girls.
However I choose mde sw scene any day because of the longer rooms, hotter climate, and much more GFE.
I fucked a cop last week. She was typical 5'2 paisa standing alone on her phone by the estadio metro, I played the american card, spit some game and got her number for a "cafecito".
We met two days later on her day off, she's 27 and a killer body. Wore jeans and a blouse, met at a bar in Buenos Aires near my place, spent 3 hours there and we got pretty sloshed, invited her back to my place and the deed was done. Can't imagine doingthat in the states. She didn't have a gun so she was one of those safety cops with a baton LOL..I doubt my penis would get a erect even for a "safety cop" LOL not my thing, I prefer feminine women and I don't consider female cops feminine, I abhor unfeminine females.
And hey WTF is wrong with Frisbys? Espec with some honey, but yes I agree I don't think putas should ever be eating that crap, let alone between mongers LOL.
Post-script.
"If you stay in the right barrio you won't see a gringo, if that's a concern of some here like it is for me."
Cool I guess as long as you steer clear the Bronx LOL.
ColombiaLover
02-19-22, 04:19
Because the kind of girls I get on FB give me a difference experience than a casa girl or, for what I've read, a centro girl. Strip clubs and Gusto's. No way. My flake rate is pretty low. True that I do not "size them up" in person before taking them, believe me that I chat them up plenty to gauge service and attitude. After 16+ years of going to MDE, I've gotten pretty good at it. At least it satisfies me.
What is the FB and why don't you bother with all those other methods? Those methods seem more reliable whereas facebook they can just flake on you, and you don't even get to size them up before taking them out.
ColombiaLover
02-19-22, 04:23
It's not a motto, but a reality. That said, if someone is being stupid and tells about it, I have the right to think he is stupid and also have contempt for him for giving these girls unrealistic expectations. It just makes it a bit harder.
But didn't everyone hear? Medellin is dangerous. Foreigners are being killed every day. Don't go. Costa Rica and DR are wonderful. CHeck them out. I will fend off the bad guys in MDE. Not worries! (I wish more guys would believe this and stay the hell out of MDE).
You could say this about almost anything. If one person does anything with 1 girl, then other girls might expect others to provide the same thing. Here are some examples:
It's been awhile, but my motto remains:
Your dick. Your money. Your business.
Because the kind of girls I get on FB give me a difference experience than a casa girl or, for what I've read, a centro girl. Strip clubs and Gusto's. No way. My flake rate is pretty low. True that I do not "size them up" in person before taking them, believe me that I chat them up plenty to gauge service and attitude. After 16+ years of going to MDE, I've gotten pretty good at it. At least it satisfies me.Fair enough. What do you suggest to get started on Facebook? What's the initial setup and how do you find them / how do they find you there?
I reached out to a reputable facebook tourguide girl,..Is this Laura? Someone else may give you a better answer. I probably would just ask if she provides companionship or if you can have a date with her if you don't want to be too direct? If she still does not understand, then you will need to be more direct. I think she probably should get used to this type of questions by now.
Did you ask the tour first?
But didn't everyone hear? Medellin is dangerous. Foreigners are being killed every day. Don't go. Costa Rica and DR are wonderful. CHeck them out. I will fend off the bad guys in MDE. Not worries! (I wish more guys would believe this and stay the hell out of MDE).No everyone didn't hear, because that is a caricature of what is being said rather than what is being said. So it's the old erect the straw man and knock it down, something easy to do.
I don't doubt you at all. There could be many reasons why she doesn't steal from you. Maybe she likes you genuinely. That doesn't apply for all customers she goes with obviously. But Vennie girls here here know her and know what she does. These stories don't just come from me.My suggestion to you, and this is from a lesson I learned many years ago in Mexico, would be to keep your money / wallet in your pocket and when you take off your pants put them somewhere where you have constant visual contact of them (on a table or chair or on the floor near the bed etc.) and never leave the girl alone in the same room as your pants, not even for 30 seconds, even if it means not cleaning yourself after the deed is done.
Shagmeister7777
02-19-22, 15:27
On Tinder and Facebook Murders.
https://www.noticiasrcn.com/amp/colombia/dos-extranjeros-fueron-robados-en-medellin-uno-muerto-y-otro-herido-405719Does anyone on the ground have more background on this.
Shagmeister7777
02-19-22, 15:40
I reached out to a reputable facebook tourguide girl, recommended by many people in this forum. So she does countryside horseriding (literally hose, no implying) tour guide, and she posts her clients photos, mostly mid-age, retired age. I would imagine that tour is beautiful for many 40+ male escaping New-York city lifestyle. But I am horny young guy that need to get it out of my system and live in a small town, like I can look out of the window and there are plenty of grass out there, So I am not so interested in the horse back tour. But based on you guys reports, she is good in bed and sounds like she might make me pop 3 times a day. So I said, "oh, that sounds beautiful, but I am a young guy and I want something hot like fire, do you have other tours? You know what I means?" She replied: "no I don't know what you mean, please be more specific (in Spanish)" So I am thinking that horse back tour sounds like about 5 hours at least, I am thinking that hours of time she charges might be more than the "behind closed door" time. What's y'all experience about that? I like some touring of course. But I don't know how to explicitly say it. I don't want to be rude, she might like her horse touring job better than riding some stranger dudes.
What should I reply? Does she do other tours? Is the "behind closed door" service come with the touring?
You guys know who it is. If you guys know other tour guides that fit my need better, please recommend to me, PM me. Thank you.Can someone please PM me the Facebook profile for this tour guide?
What do you want to know?
Does anyone on the ground have more background on this.
My suggestion to you, and this is from a lesson I learned many years ago in Mexico, would be to keep your money / wallet in your pocket and when you take off your pants put them somewhere where you have constant visual contact of them (on a table or chair or on the floor near the bed etc.) and never leave the girl alone in the same room as your pants, not even for 30 seconds, even if it means not cleaning yourself after the deed is done.I remember a long time ago having my pants on a nightstand beside the bed and while laying down on the bed and getting blown, the provider was able to sit on the bed and block my view while blowing me and took some money out of my wallet, not all of it, because I hadn't paid yet, apparently I had something like 200 K and she took like 50 K.
Since I always have a small backpack with me, when I take off my pants, I always put them in the backpack, and zipper the pack up, which always remains in sight. And typically when I go with a girl for the first time I take the back-pack into the bathroom with me.
And your right, these girls within 30 seconds can easily rip you off, and are very adept at this. In my case, the girl knew that if she had taken all my money there would of been a problem when I was going to pay her so took a small sum. A bigger issue, more so than money are cell phones being stolen. There's quite a black market for them, with stolen smart phones generally being sold for 100 K and up, so if a girl steals one, she can easily get 50 K for it. This is something guys need to be aware of when they are getting ready to depart the room. And another red flag guys should be aware of is when a girl is in a hurry to leave. In this instance it's best to get in front of the door, and make sure your not missing anything, and besides money or a phone, it could be something else of value you have.
I personally never have a smart phone or much cash on me when I'm in Centro, so don't have much to lose if somebody jacks me up. Anybody carrying a USA smart phone around with them in Centro, or quite frankly anywhere in Colombia will be hosed if their phone gets stolen, so I rarely take mine out with me and have a cheap Colombian burner phone with me.
What a stupid thing to say. But wait. That is right. You have never been here.
I have never looked hot cops but I saw a hot Filipina (Asian face) looking police officer at Botero once. Another time I saw a short one who had a huge rack, even with her uniform trying to hide it, near the police station near San Antonio station. Sadly, I could do nothing about either one. No Spanish. To think all female police look and act masculine is so stupid but expected of you.I agree there's tons of hot police chicks here. I catch myself looking at their asses all the time when walking around and they're in front of me LOL.
DriftClouds
02-19-22, 19:21
Is this Laura? Someone else may give you a better answer. I probably would just ask if she provides companionship or if you can have a date with her if you don't want to be too direct? If she still does not understand, then you will need to be more direct. I think she probably should get used to this type of questions by now.
Did you ask the tour first?Yes she is Laura. I didn't ask for tour first, I said to her " I saw your pics of horse riding tour, do you offer other tours". Then she reply" yes, horse is my favorite, "then she describe the tour. And then I imply if she have other tours because I want something "on fire, hot". But she pretend she doesn't know. Haha.
I reached out to a reputable facebook tourguide girl ...So I said, "oh, that sounds beautiful, but I am a young guy and I want something hot like fire, do you have other tours? You know what I means?" She replied: "no I don't know what you mean, please be more specific (in Spanish)"
What should I reply? Does she do other tours? Is the "behind closed door" service come with the touring?I would have replied the same as her to a question like that. You're not talking about the US, and you are not going to be sued for sexual harassment. Be direct. Ask her if you can have a round or two in bed with her before the tour. You will not embarrass her. If she no longer does that, she will tell you. It's not like walking up to a stranger on the street and asking for sex.
JohnnyWalker55
02-19-22, 20:08
Every thing you wrote is exactly correct. There are a lot of police tents on La Setenta (Carrera 70) these days and I have seen more than a few stunners dressed in green. I have given some thought to approaching some of them but they are always (usually) accompanied by another officer. But one of these days. But a high-school student who has never been here would never know that.I'd say more than half the female cops I see are hot. Especially at the entrances by the fence at botero. But the baton ones, for some reason the ones with guns are usually heftier. Just make a day out of "cop hunting", they're just regular girls, and they don't get treated as such because of the uniform. I imagine they're missing out all the flirting they get if they would've worked at a mall or cell phone store in centro.
This chick was just posted up against a wall on her phone, one of those safety cops patrolling the metro, not near the tent. She was a secretary at a university but became a cop because of the job security and her father was one.
They're just regular chicks in uniform!
... But she pretend she doesn't know. Haha.I think there are reasons for her to be discrete. I guess she has non monger customers for the tour so she is waiting for you to make the first move.
The Highlander
02-19-22, 20:33
If you stay in the right barrio you won't see a gringo, if that's a concern of some here like it is for me..Which area you referring to? I was in Laureles maybe 5 times already and I need change scenery.
Peace out.
I have been brash before as it may have been deserved (lol) but jjbee is on the money. True words. Just put yourself out there and let the cards fall where they may. There are no shortage of beautiful non pros in mde.I respect that. Quite often many of us butt heads and get harsh, but there's no need to attack useful information just because of the source.
Fair enough. What do you suggest to get started on Facebook? What's the initial setup and how do you find them / how do they find you there?You go to the Links to Reports of Distinction thread and start reading. There are links to the step by step method.
In my opinion you get a better idea about many of the girls on Facebook than in a casa or strip club (or off the street in a night club).
If you're going to a place where girls are looking for customers, you and the girls are working towards a goal. The girls are working towards getting paid and you're working towards getting laid. This changes everyone's behavior. Depending on how bad you want to get laid and how bad she needs the money, it could be a drastic change.
Many of the girls use Facebook to keep up with friends and family, along with finding customers. Most of the pictures and videos are them acting normal. You get to see what they find funny and what they find arousing. You get to see what they drink, what drugs they do and what they eat. Over time you can get a good idea what each girl is like.
Add in a few conversations with them and maybe choose to meet them for coffee, a drink or a meal. For a few dollars you can get the in-person impression.
I reached out to a reputable facebook tourguide girl, recommended by many people in this forum. So she does countryside horseriding (literally hose, no implying) tour guide, and she posts her clients photos, mostly mid-age, retired age. I would imagine that tour is beautiful for many 40+ male escaping New-York city lifestyle. But I am horny young guy that need to get it out of my system and live in a small town, like I can look out of the window and there are plenty of grass out there, So I am not so interested in the horse back tour. But based on you guys reports, she is good in bed and sounds like she might make me pop 3 times a day. So I said, "oh, that sounds beautiful, but I am a young guy and I want something hot like fire, do you have other tours? You know what I means?" She replied: "no I don't know what you mean, please be more specific (in Spanish)" So I am thinking that horse back tour sounds like about 5 hours at least, I am thinking that hours of time she charges might be more than the "behind closed door" time. What's y'all experience about that? I like some touring of course. But I don't know how to explicitly say it. I don't want to be rude, she might like her horse touring job better than riding some stranger dudes.
What should I reply? Does she do other tours? Is the "behind closed door" service come with the touring?
You guys know who it is. If you guys know other tour guides that fit my need better, please recommend to me, PM me. Thank you.Are you looking for a tour? If it's the one I'm thinking of, she does a lot of tours. Pick one that you're interested in.
If you're not looking for a tour, find other girls. She probably makes more money giving a tour than she does doing P4P. Unless you want to pay the lost tour revenue, plus the sex fee, it's not really a win-win.
In the past I mentioned her because someone wanted to take some tours. In that case, why not set up a tour and some after tour entertainment.
Yes she is Laura. I didn't ask for tour first, I said to her " I saw your pics of horse riding tour, do you offer other tours". Then she reply" yes, horse is my favorite, "then she describe the tour. And then I imply if she have other tours because I want something "on fire, hot". But she pretend she doesn't know. Haha.She probably wasn't pretending. You found her through her tour page and you asked about tours. Asking about something "in fire" or "hot" would definitely confuse her.
Just ask for what you want.
In Spanish there are several ways to ask.
1. Quiero verte. I want to see you.
2. Quiero conocerte. I want to know you (know as in become familiar with you).
3. Quiero una cita contigo. I want a date with you (you might need to clarify, if you've already asked about tours).
4. Estoy buscando una compañera. I'm looking for a companion.
Here's a sample Facebook messenger script, in English:
Hello. How are you?
I'm fine. How are you?
Very fine. Thank you. I like your pictures. You are very beautiful (make sure she has pictures first).
Thank you. What are you doing (or where are you from)?
(Answer and then) I'm going to be in Medellin soon and I want to see you.
Talk a bit more, she'll probably make sure you know you're expected to pay. Don't try to nail down a day, details or the price, until you're in the city and ready to start. Just tell her when you will arrive and that you will talk to her then. No need to be subtle.
Has anyone ever gone to a soccer game? I was wondering how you could get tickets online or would I have to buy tickets off thr guys outside el estadio. I went last time but didn't get to see the game. Was a good atmosphere few soccer hooligans but it was fun overall.
They are talented.
I remember a long time ago having my pants on a nightstand beside the bed and while laying down on the bed and getting blown, the provider was able to sit on the bed and block my view while blowing me and took some money out of my wallet, not all of it, because I hadn't paid yet, apparently I had something like 200 K and she took like 50 K.
Since I always have a small backpack with me, when I take off my pants, I always put them in the backpack, and zipper the pack up, which always remains in sight. And typically when I go with a girl for the first time I take the back-pack into the bathroom with me.
And your right, these girls within 30 seconds can easily rip you off, and are very adept at this. In my case, the girl knew that if she had taken all my money there would of been a problem when I was going to pay her so took a small sum. A bigger issue, more so than money are cell phones being stolen. There's quite a black market for them, with stolen smart phones generally being sold for 100 K and up, so if a girl steals one, she can easily get 50 K for it. This is something guys need to be aware of when they are getting ready to depart the room. And another red flag guys should be aware of is when a girl is in a hurry to leave. In this instance it's best to get in front of the door, and make sure your not missing anything, and besides money or a phone, it could be something else of value you have.
I personally never have a smart phone or much cash on me when I'm in Centro, so don't have much to lose if somebody jacks me up. Anybody carrying a USA smart phone around with them in Centro, or quite frankly anywhere in Colombia will be hosed if their phone gets stolen, so I rarely take mine out with me and have a cheap Colombian burner phone with me.
The Highlander
02-19-22, 23:40
Has anyone ever gone to a soccer game? I was wondering how you could get tickets online or would I have to buy tickets off thr guys outside el estadio. I went last time but didn't get to see the game. Was a good atmosphere few soccer hooligans but it was fun overall.You buy it there in the stadium in advance day or two, and you need to know where you want to sit because they will ask you that. It is recommended to take umbrella because sun can be brutal and sits are rather dirty so don't wear bright pants or take old cloth or old shirt or something to wipe it down.
I thought you were going to get a spare SIM and an unlocked smartphone you don't mind losing. Why continue to inconvenience yourself this way? You can activate a spare SIM within minutes of realizing your primary phone is lost, stolen, or damaged beyond use. An hour of inconvenience at a mobile phone store the next time you are in America will take end the worry and deprivation. Depending on the carrier you can get a spare at one of their retail outlets or at a big box retailer or electronics store of the Walmart or Best Buy variety.
I'm no tough guy. I don't want to have my phone stolen and I would never put up a fight to keep it in the event of robbery. I just prefer the convenience of my dual SIM phone with always on data service.
I remember a long time ago having my pants on a nightstand beside the bed and while laying down on the bed and getting blown, the provider was able to sit on the bed and block my view while blowing me and took some money out of my wallet, not all of it, because I hadn't paid yet, apparently I had something like 200 K and she took like 50 K.
Since I always have a small backpack with me, when I take off my pants, I always put them in the backpack, and zipper the pack up, which always remains in sight. And typically when I go with a girl for the first time I take the back-pack into the bathroom with me.
And your right, these girls within 30 seconds can easily rip you off, and are very adept at this. In my case, the girl knew that if she had taken all my money there would of been a problem when I was going to pay her so took a small sum. A bigger issue, more so than money are cell phones being stolen. There's quite a black market for them, with stolen smart phones generally being sold for 100 K and up, so if a girl steals one, she can easily get 50 K for it. This is something guys need to be aware of when they are getting ready to depart the room. And another red flag guys should be aware of is when a girl is in a hurry to leave. In this instance it's best to get in front of the door, and make sure your not missing anything, and besides money or a phone, it could be something else of value you have.
Has anyone ever gone to a soccer game? I was wondering how you could get tickets online or would I have to buy tickets off thr guys outside el estadio. I went last time but didn't get to see the game. Was a good atmosphere few soccer hooligans but it was fun overall.I know a place you can go to watch paint dry on a wall. More action and someone might actually score.
Which area you referring to? I was in Laureles maybe 5 times already and I need change scenery.
Peace out.Just hook up with Ricerocket in Bello and Manrique. Wink.
DriftClouds
02-20-22, 03:07
Hunts Point, amigo. Lived in the city 49 years.
Know my way around the block. Had a good laugh with my Paisa friend today. He said he wouldn't fuck a Centro chica with three condoms. Good luck.That means they usually has sex disease?
I remember some streetwalkers are licensed and government check if they got STD weekly, probably not Colombia but some countries does I forgot what countries.
I'll try to answer. It's difficult to give exact answers without a lot more information from you.
First thing, forget Instagram and webcam sites, along with YouTube videos. YouTube videos mostly just give one person's opinion. IG and webcams will waste a lot of your time and money with minimal returns. You'll be competing with guys who are happy to spend lots of money for just the online interactions.
Where and how to find girls depends on what you're comfortable with. What works for you in the US? You should concentrate on the Colombian equivalent. At least to get started. Knowing Spanish will work in your favor.
Where to stay is another decision based upon your experience and comfort level. The easiest solution is to stay at the Mansion (Search Hotel M Medellin). There will be other, experienced mongers there who can help you out and there are girls available onsite. It's not the cheapest option, but it's reasonable compared to US hotels. About $200 per day should cover food, lodging and 2 girls. If that's your choice, book several weeks in advance. They tend to be busy.Damn that's a good response right there thanks!
Has anyone ever gone to a soccer game? I was wondering how you could get tickets online or would I have to buy tickets off thr guys outside el estadio. I went last time but didn't get to see the game. Was a good atmosphere few soccer hooligans but it was fun overall.Last time I was in medellin had a hotel just off la setenta. Arrived just as a game was done and specators coming out. Met police shooting tear gas towards us as we ducked into side streets to get to our hotel. Most people reacted like it was sort of a normal thing.
Since we're on the subject of theft, I'll add my advice / experience. All theft attempts (successful and unsuccessful) I've experienced in Colombia were from street girls from Centro Medellin and Santa Fe Bogota. I've never seen an FB girl attempt thievery or maybe I'm lucky.
1. One girl rummaged through my backpack while I was in the shower. Backpack was empty so no dice for her.
2. One girl stuffed her hands in my pants, which was lying next to both of us, when I was coming. This is the time when a guy's brain is overloaded with the orgasm, but I just happened to see her reaching into the pants pocket. Nothing in the pants pockets so nada for her. She also tried the same thing while she's on the cowgirl position.
3. Daniela (as mentioned from my previous post) also stole money from my pants pocket. In my Airbnb at the time I had a mirror in my bathroom where I can see most of the things that happen behind me as I was using it. But I stopped paying attention for 20 seconds. She used her body to block my view and took some money. After this I stopped leaving any significant amount of cash in my pants.
4. I left about 30 mil worth of cash on a nightstand. As I was putting the money down, I honestly thought this was not worth stealing, so whatever. But after our session was over, it got stolen anyway LOL. I noticed it, confronted the girl, who obviously denied it. But not worth making a fuss with her over 30 mil.
No girl attempted to steal my cell phone though. The most likely reason that I can think of is I use a translator to talk to the girl, so if the cell phone is missing it's a dead giveaway.
LoveItHere69
02-20-22, 15:19
I believe the police officer mentioned belongs to the transit police. Those are the ones in blue enforcing things like pico and placa. Effectively meter maids.There is a police station at Botero near the metro station stairs. AT the time there were small groups of police (20+ total) standing around during shift change outside the police station. Some have guns some do not and different uniforms because there are different levels of police (newbie in training, foot patrol, motorcycle).
Thank you for not being there and telling me I am wrong based on the simple location given as Botero. I never mentioned what she was wearing. I assume you personally know the only Filipina face looking girl I am speaking of right because you know everything else about damn near everything on the planet?
Hello all,
While I don't have any posts on ISG, I am very experienced with USASG. I tried to RTFF and got about 15 pgs in, but was unable to find.
I am in Medellin for the next three days and am looking for some of the best FS girls money can buy. I greatly enjoyed Loutron in Bogota but felt it was too nickel-and-dime; I'd rather they just tell me the full price straight up. Is Loutron in Medellin the same? What would a full HR, all inclusive go for? I do not care much about long term connection, and I'm solo and relatively short, so I do not anticipate having much street luck (categorize me as an Incel, if you wish).
Also, if there are any FS massages that are recommended like Abejitas in Bogota, I'd greatly appreciate info.
I inquired to Hotel M but am still waiting to hear back from them.
Also, I have no thoughts on the supply / demand issue but found "Puta Economics" hilarious.
Cheers.
I believe the police officer mentioned belongs to the transit police. Those are the ones in blue enforcing things like pico and placa. Effectively meter maids..So I guess I would want to avoid the meter maids because they are definitely clock watchers! BaDumTiss!
Since we're on the subject of theft, I'll add my advice / experience. All theft attempts (successful and unsuccessful) I've experienced in Colombia were from street girls from Centro Medellin and Santa Fe Bogota. I've never seen an FB girl attempt thievery or maybe I'm lucky.
1. One girl rummaged through my backpack while I was in the shower. Backpack was empty so no dice for her.
2. One girl stuffed her hands in my pants, which was lying next to both of us, when I was coming. This is the time when a guy's brain is overloaded with the orgasm, but I just happened to see her reaching into the pants pocket. Nothing in the pants pockets so nada for her. She also tried the same thing while she's on the cowgirl position.
3. Daniela (as mentioned from my previous post) also stole money from my pants pocket. In my Airbnb at the time I had a mirror in my bathroom where I can see most of the things that happen behind me as I was using it. But I stopped paying attention for 20 seconds. She used her body to block my view and took some money. After this I stopped leaving any significant amount of cash in my pants.
4. I left about 30 mil worth of cash on a nightstand..I do know of a few Facebook girls who have stolen from guys, but they aren't that common. Most of them understand that their reputation can quickly be ruined and will try to avoid any bad publicity.
Thieves, along with the recently mentioned tortures and murders, are more likely from Tinder. It's anonymous. On Facebook they have friends, family and quite a bit of their personal information. That makes them much easier to track down. On Tinder, they just delete one account and open another.
I thought you were going to get a spare SIM and an unlocked smartphone you don't mind losing. Why continue to inconvenience yourself this way? You can activate a spare SIM within minutes of realizing your primary phone is lost, stolen, or damaged beyond use. An hour of inconvenience at a mobile phone store the next time you are in America will take end the worry and deprivation. Depending on the carrier you can get a spare at one of their retail outlets or at a big box retailer or electronics store of the Walmart or Best Buy variety.
I'm no tough guy. I don't want to have my phone stolen and I would never put up a fight to keep it in the event of robbery. I just prefer the convenience of my dual SIM phone with always on data service.I'm old school, and not technical.
I have three phones in Colombia. Two of them are USA "I" phones, and with Verizon. And I also have two spare Verizon SIM cards I brought from the USA as you mentioned.
The two "I" phones basically stay locked up, except when I'm travelling around the Country.
My USA phones are my lifeline to my family / business in the USA, and I know I'm paying a lot for them, but need the security of not losing contact with the USA.
To illustrate how much of a problem it can be for a visitor to lose an American cell phone in Colombia, I have a buddy that last month had his American cell phone stolen in Centro.
He basically was hosed, being cut off from the USA in regards to all his contacts and other things like online banking, online boarding passes, until he returned home.
So your advice is good for others to think about as I have done exactly as you suggested, having immediate back-up in the event of losing one of my American cell phones.
However, when I'm in Centro, and most places in Medellin, I have a $ 20 USD Nokia burner phone with a Colombian number registered with Claro.
It costs me less than one USD dollar a month to maintain.
Again I'm old school, and don't need a smart phone to navigate and conduct my activities in Medellin, yet know most need a smart phone and / or are totally lost or handicapped without one.
I thought about upgrading my burner phone to a cheap smart phone, but I like having all my contact information on my primary USA phone number.
My Colombian burner phone is more just for emergencies then anything else.
My situation is perhaps unique, I'm just an old fart, and maybe should step up to the plate and just get a Colombian smart phone. I know they are in-expensive, and data is cheap.
But you know the saying, you can't teach an old dog a new trick.
Another alternative for visitors is to get a cheap Colombian smart phone upon arriving, and just use it in Colombia, this is what my buddy did.
So my advice to other board members here is very simple. If you you only have a USA cell phone in Colombia, and don't have a back-up phone you can activate within Colombia. You need to be very cautious about losing it.
I have basically only two things of value when travelling abroad, my Passport and my USA cell phone in that order.
Hunglow1625
02-20-22, 19:07
They are talented.It blows my mind these chicas will steal the very $$ you are going to pay them with for their services.
I often wonder what happens when you don't have the $$ when you go to pay them because they have hidden it on their person? They call the Police? It makes you want to hide a Rat trap in your belongings so that they get their greedy fingers snared and will think about trying that on the next guy.
I am in Medellin for the next three days and am looking for some of the best FS girls money can buy.Go to Costa Rica.
... Is Loutron in Medellin the same? What would a full HR, all inclusive go for? ...Loutron is like a casa. The price is fixed at around 300 K COP, sex included. I think you can just go to Hotel M directly.
...I often wonder what happens when you don't have the $$ when you go to pay them...I was with two pinays one time. One in the bathroom stole from my pant pocket and left the exact amount for me to pay them. This is not the first time I met them so I left my guard down.
Hello all,
For those who have recently visited Medellin:
As for the required covid vaccine to enter the country, at what point will I be required to show proof of vaccination? Also does the vaccine need to be registered online or can I simply show them my card? If I'm able to show my physical card. Will Colombian officials attempt to input my info into a database to confirm my card or will they just glance at it and send me on my way?
Also, do I require booster shots to enter the country?
There is a police station at Botero near the metro station stairs. AT the time there were small groups of police (20+ total) standing around during shift change outside the police station. Some have guns some do not and different uniforms because there are different levels of police (newbie in training, foot patrol, motorcycle).
Thank you for not being there and telling me I am wrong based on the simple location given as Botero. I never mentioned what she was wearing. I assume you personally know the only Filipina face looking girl I am speaking of right because you know everything else about damn near everything on the planet?Where did that come from? My response was concerning the cop JohnnieWalker said he picked up, it had nothing to do with the cop you saw.
Even if I was talking about the one you saw, read it again. "I believe" is how my post begins. What part of "I believe" makes you think I'm telling you, or anyone else they are wrong?
Let's go one step further. Assume I said "The cop you're talking about probably belongs to the transit police." Do you consider that an attack? Whether she's one of the transit police, or a member of the national police doesn't change anything. She still looks the same. Your experience was still the same. There's nothing in there questioning the accuracy of your report. And that's forgetting that I wasn't even talking about your report.
A simple response, if I had been talking about the cop you saw, would have been "No. She was wearing the national police uniform.
You can take or ignore this advice. Don't read every response as an attack directed at you. Most aren't.
So I guess I would want to avoid the meter maids because they are definitely clock watchers! BaDumTiss!That one deserves an award. Great joke.
Anyone know of a good cigar spot? I found one in Parque Lleras with no selection and what they did have, they were charging 80 mil a stick for!
I'm old school, and not technical.
I have three phones in Colombia. Two of them are USA "I" phones, and with Verizon. And I also have two spare Verizon SIM cards I brought from the USA as you mentioned.
The two "I" phones basically stay locked up, except when I'm travelling around the Country.
My USA phones are my lifeline to my family / business in the USA, and I know I'm paying a lot for them, but need the security of not losing contact with the USA.
To illustrate how much of a problem it can be for a visitor to lose an American cell phone in Colombia, I have a buddy that last month had his American cell phone stolen in Centro.
He basically was hosed, being cut off from the USA in regards to all his contacts and other things like online banking, online boarding passes, until he returned home.
So your advice is good for others to think about as I have done exactly as you suggested, having immediate back-up in the event of losing one of my American cell phones.
However, when I'm in Centro, and most places in Medellin, I have a $ 20 USD Nokia burner phone with a Colombian number registered with Claro.
It costs me less than one USD dollar a month to maintain.
Again I'm old school, and don't need a smart phone to navigate and conduct my activities in Medellin, yet know most need a smart phone and / or are totally lost or handicapped without one.
I thought about upgrading my burner phone to a cheap smart phone, but I like having all my contact information on my primary USA phone number.
My Colombian burner phone is more just for emergencies then anything else.
My situation is perhaps unique, I'm just an old fart, and maybe should step up to the plate and just get a Colombian smart phone. I know they are in-expensive, and data is cheap.
But you know the saying, you can't teach an old dog a new trick.
Another alternative for visitors is to get a cheap Colombian smart phone upon arriving, and just use it in Colombia, this is what my buddy did.
So my advice to other board members here is very simple. If you you only have a USA cell phone in Colombia, and don't have a back-up phone you can activate within Colombia. You need to be very cautious about losing it.
I have basically only two things of value when travelling abroad, my Passport and my USA cell phone in that order.It doesn't really matter what country you purchase your phone in as long as it's unlocked. For example I have an Unlocked Huawei P30 I purchased in Mexico. When I'm in Mexico I have a Telcel sim card that I use and when I'm in Colombia I have a Claro sim card. And when I'm in the US working, the telcel will roam off of T-mobile and I also used to have a prepaid AT&T sim card that works in it as well as a GCI sim card in Alaska. The bottom line is you just need one phone and wherever you go you buy a prepaid simcard and you swap sim cards and it works flawlessly. The Claro sim card litterally cost me I think 3 or 4 k COP and you can load it up with a 6 K recarga. All you people buying extra phones and carrying 2 or 3 phone are just wasting your money. Also to stay connected to the US you can use apps like Talkatone to make unlimited calls to the US thru your data or wifi connection, regardless of where you are in the world.
Surfer and others who need to access contacts associated with a certain number, US or otherwise, can pull a contact file and set up an account on the domain (msn, gmail, yahoo, etc) of your choice. Once that account is linked any of the smartphones you own you can access them from any of those smartphones. So Surfer you have the spare SIM, that is by far the most important piece. You can recover your service independently of a phone that might get lost, stolen, or damaged. By the way, you aren't really an old fart Luddite until you resort to buying minutes from the cigarette / tinto / candy vendors instead of carrying the burner phone. You are the ultimate Centro rat because your dates have better phones than you. LOL!
It doesn't really matter what country you purchase your phone in as long as it's unlocked. For example I have an Unlocked Huawei P30 I purchased in Mexico. When I'm in Mexico I have a Telcel sim card that I use and when I'm in Colombia I have a Claro sim card. And when I'm in the US working, the telcel will roam off of T-mobile and I also used to have a prepaid AT&T sim card that works in it as well as a GCI sim card in Alaska. The bottom line is you just need one phone and wherever you go you buy a prepaid simcard and you swap sim cards and it works flawlessly. The Claro sim card litterally cost me I think 3 or 4 k COP and you can load it up with a 6 K recarga. All you people buying extra phones and carrying 2 or 3 phone are just wasting your money. Also to stay connected to the US you can use apps like Talkatone to make unlimited calls to the US thru your data or wifi connection, regardless of where you are in the world.
I've been very lucky to not have lost or had a passport stolen. Years ago I was on a business trip when a colleague had his rental car broken into and his passport was stolen. He had to stay behind for several days and take a flight to the capital to get a replacement at the consulate. I treasure those reminders that don't cost me any pain.
I'm old school, and not technical.
I have three phones in Colombia. Two of them are USA "I" phones, and with Verizon. And I also have two spare Verizon SIM cards I brought from the USA as you mentioned.
The two "I" phones basically stay locked up, except when I'm travelling around the Country.
My USA phones are my lifeline to my family / business in the USA, and I know I'm paying a lot for them, but need the security of not losing contact with the USA.
To illustrate how much of a problem it can be for a visitor to lose an American cell phone in Colombia, I have a buddy that last month had his American cell phone stolen in Centro.
He basically was hosed, being cut off from the USA in regards to all his contacts and other things like online banking, online boarding passes, until he returned home.
So your advice is good for others to think about as I have done exactly as you suggested, having immediate back-up in the event of losing one of my American cell phones.
However, when I'm in Centro, and most places in Medellin, I have a $ 20 USD Nokia burner phone with a Colombian number registered with Claro.
It costs me less than one USD dollar a month to maintain.
Again I'm old school, and don't need a smart phone to navigate and conduct my activities in Medellin, yet know most need a smart phone and / or are totally lost or handicapped without one..
Hello all,
I had a question for anybody who has recently visited Medellin. In regards to the mandated covid vaccine. At what point will I be required to show proof? Am I required to pull up my vaccine info on my states website or can I just show the original card? Also will Colombian officials be inputting my info into a date base to confirm my vaccine, or is it as simple as just showing my card, and send me on my way?
El Viajero
02-21-22, 00:54
I remember a long time ago having my pants on a nightstand beside the bed and while laying down on the bed and getting blown, the provider was able to sit on the bed and block my view while blowing me and took some money out of my wallet, not all of it, because I hadn't paid yet, apparently I had something like 200 K and she took like 50 K.
Since I always have a small backpack with me, when I take off my pants, I always put them in the backpack, and zipper the pack up, which always remains in sight. And typically when I go with a girl for the first time I take the back-pack into the bathroom with me.
And your right, these girls within 30 seconds can easily rip you off, and are very adept at this. In my case, the girl knew that if she had taken all my money there would of been a problem when I was going to pay her so took a small sum. A bigger issue, more so than money are cell phones being stolen. There's quite a black market for them, with stolen smart phones generally being sold for 100 K and up, so if a girl steals one, she can easily get 50 K for it. This is something guys need to be aware of when they are getting ready to depart the room. And another red flag guys should be aware of is when a girl is in a hurry to leave. In this instance it's best to get in front of the door, and make sure your not missing anything, and besides money or a phone, it could be something else of value you have..I had a girl come over to mine for a couple of hours and when she was dressed and ready to leave the bedroom for whatever reason I started looking for my vibrator and couldn't find it. After the third time of asking she pulls it out of her bum bag (fanny pack for all you Americans). LOL. Turns out she liked it so much she thought she would just take it with her. Great girl and hot as fuck, especially when she was enjoying herself with the magic wand, but you generally can't trust these girls alone or even in front of you a lot of the time. Still saw her a few times after that of course, just made sure the vibrator stayed with me when she left.
It doesn't really matter what country you purchase your phone in as long as it's unlocked. For example I have an Unlocked Huawei P30 I purchased in Mexico. When I'm in Mexico I have a Telcel sim card that I use and when I'm in Colombia I have a Claro sim card. And when I'm in the US working, the telcel will roam off of T-mobile and I also used to have a prepaid AT&T sim card that works in it as well as a GCI sim card in Alaska. The bottom line is you just need one phone and wherever you go you buy a prepaid simcard and you swap sim cards and it works flawlessly. The Claro sim card litterally cost me I think 3 or 4 k COP and you can load it up with a 6 K recarga. All you people buying extra phones and carrying 2 or 3 phone are just wasting your money. Also to stay connected to the US you can use apps like Talkatone to make unlimited calls to the US thru your data or wifi connection, regardless of where you are in the world.Yep, I'm old school and technically challenged, but had heard that USA phones don't work with SIM cards from south of the border.
Is that correct?
Is there weeks long enough for a newbie to get his bearings in Medellin for a first trip? I speak no Spanish. I want to be there long enough to have a decent understanding of what it's like. Thanks for any help.
As for the required covid vaccine to enter the country, at what point will I be required to show proof of vaccination? Also does the vaccine need to be registered online or can I simply show them my card? If I'm able to show my physical card. Will Colombian officials attempt to input my info into a database to confirm my card or will they just glance at it and send me on my way?
Also, do I require booster shots to enter the country?You do not need to show proof of a vax. All you need is to show a completed vax card. I am not sure what access Col Immg has to various online QR linked databases, but the reality is that many countries do not issue such QR cards and Col accepts all types of cards. So a handwritten card is just as valid as a QR card. They chk your card at the airline chk in desk, and again in the queue as you approach the immigration desk on entry. The immigration official at the desk did not look at mine.
You do not need to upload or send your vax card in advance when you do the Check Mig registration.
There is no database to crosscheck your data with. Maybe they could cross check with a few countries if they had the will or desire or thousands of staff to do that. But they don't. Why not just get a card from a country that does handwritten cards? Then they can't cross check anything.
Boosters are not required to enter Col. All your card must show is a useless first round of vaxes that have already become obsolete in terms of effectiveness. That's what they want. Thats what they get. A policy as effective as the useless vaxes that they want you to have.
Is there weeks long enough for a newbie to get his bearings in Medellin for a first trip? I speak no Spanish. I want to be there long enough to have a decent understanding of what it's like. Thanks for any help.I leave Friday for my 1st trip, no Spanish. I will let you know how I make out. I have been overseas before but only to Thailand, but that is kind of easy mode.
Elvis 2008
02-21-22, 04:44
You do not need to show proof of a vax. All you need is to show a completed vax card. I am not sure what access Col Immg has to various online QR linked databases, but the reality is that many countries do not issue such QR cards and Col accepts all types of cards. So a handwritten card is just as valid as a QR card. They chk your card at the airline chk in desk, and again in the queue as you approach the immigration desk on entry. The immigration official at the desk did not look at mine.
You do not need to upload or send your vax card in advance when you do the Check Mig registration.No one said anything about check MIG last two flights I had to Colombia. Vaccine info is checked by airlines only. It is some minimum wage type employee looking for a few things. You can have the card or even a photo of the card on your phone. It is super easy to fake if you want to go that way.
Surfer and others who need to access contacts associated with a certain number, US or otherwise, can pull a contact file and set up an account on the domain (msn, gmail, yahoo, etc) of your choice. Once that account is linked any of the smartphones you own you can access them from any of those smartphones. So Surfer you have the spare SIM, that is by far the most important piece. You can recover your service independently of a phone that might get lost, stolen, or damaged. By the way, you aren't really an old fart Luddite until you resort to buying minutes from the cigarette / tinto / candy vendors instead of carrying the burner phone. You are the ultimate Centro rat because your dates have better phones than you. LOL!You can get a good idea of how bad the neighborhood is by how cheap they're selling minutes.
That is not correct. Any SIM card will work in any network unlocked phone. The phone has to be compatible with the Colombia networks. Among the few exceptions are older 3 G phones that will provide limited coverage and no coverage at all within a few months.
Yep, I'm old school and technically challenged, but had heard that USA phones don't work with SIM cards from south of the border.
Is that correct?
Yep, I'm old school and technically challenged, but had heard that USA phones don't work with SIM cards from south of the border.
Is that correct?If the phone is unlocked it will work with a sim card from anywhere. It doesn't matter that the phone is from the USA Or the sim card is from elsewhere, all that matters is that the phone is unlocked.
Is there weeks long enough ... I want to be there long enough to have a decent understanding of what it's like..3 weeks is enough.
JohnHancock11
02-21-22, 10:10
Anyone know of a good cigar spot? I found one in Parque Lleras with no selection and what they did have, they were charging 80 mil a stick for!I also went to that place in Parque Lleras and thought it was a ripoff. Then I found La Cava Puro and I have been very satisfied. The prices are fair, the selection is decent (by Medellin standards) and they have staff that speak English. They have a house brand cigar which is delightful. I prefer the blue label which is a lighter cigar. There is also a red label which is darker. This place will be one of my first stops on every trip unless I find something better.
HornyDude353
02-21-22, 12:39
Hi,
I'm heading back down to Medellin in a couple weeks and was wondering if strip clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos are still open? I've not heard much talk of them recently but keen to go if they are back open as I liked the selection pre covid times.
Also when looking for FB girls how do you even begin searching for them? I'm at a loss but would like to see if there is something that takes my fancy.
I'm hoping that I can use Tinder mainly or worst case maybe even join up to SA, I'm going to try and avoid the street walkers.
Shagmeister7777
02-21-22, 15:21
What do you want to know?It appears that mongers who use social platforms to meet sex workers are being.
Lured by women and gangs that have bad intentions. These criminals have figured out.
How to lure their victims and they're fishing where there victims fish. Are there more details or background info.
On what happened to the Aussie and the other victim? What were the circumstances of these incidents?
There was a ton of time and effort spent on a rating system and was hoping BMs would jump all over this topic.
To discuss what happened and how it can be avoided. I believe most people here use FB, SA, or some other social network.
Platform to meet women and therefore there would be more chatter regarding this serious matter.
That is not correct. Any SIM card will work in any network unlocked phone. The phone has to be compatible with the Colombia networks. Among the few exceptions are older 3 G phones that will provide limited coverage and no coverage at all within a few months.So one last question regarding phones. Would an "I" phone, which I purchased from Verizon in the USA be compatible with Colombia networks. I had heard that USA phones were not compatible with the phone system in Colombia, hence I have two phones and extra Verizon SIM cards with me as you previously suggested. Again my apologies for not being technically savvy on all this, but I recall a while back another poster explained that the system or network in Colombia was not compatible with the USA system, or perhaps that has changed?
Mr Enternational
02-21-22, 17:20
So one last question regarding phones. Would an "I" phone, which I purchased from Verizon in the USA be compatible with Colombia networks.If it is unlocked and uses a SIM then it will work. It was the old days when Sprint had that CDMA network that those were not compatible on GPRS and GSM networks. I think most of the world is standardized on at least LTE these days as those older 2G networks have become obsolete and 3G is right behind it.
Is there weeks long enough for a newbie to get his bearings in Medellin for a first trip? I speak no Spanish. I want to be there long enough to have a decent understanding of what it's like. Thanks for any help.I was there 1 week and was ready to go. Save your 3 week trips for Brazil. Much more to do there. Medellin is pretty boring to be honest and the strip club scene and bars has declined a lot.
Mojo Bandit
02-21-22, 19:37
So one last question regarding phones. Would an "I" phone, which I purchased from Verizon in the USA be compatible with Colombia networks. I had heard that USA phones were not compatible with the phone system in Colombia, hence I have two phones and extra Verizon SIM cards with me as you previously suggested. Again my apologies for not being technically savvy on all this, but I recall a while back another poster explained that the system or network in Colombia was not compatible with the USA system, or perhaps that has changed?Everything has been essentially covered by what MR E said. As long as your "I" phone is not really old it should work. As long as it is unlocked and has a recepticle for a SIM, it should work. Cell phones work on radio waves and Versizon LTE for example uses the frequencies 1900,1700 f, 700 see. Movistar (Colombia) also uses 1700 so the towers are set up to recieve this frequency. These websites cover the frequencies used by carriers in the USA and Colombia
https://ipsnews.net/business/2020/06/30/cheat-sheet-which-4g-lte-bands-do-att-verizon-t-mobile-and-sprint-use-in-the-usa/
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carriers/movistar-colombia
I have been with Verizon for years so my history visiting Colombia is checkered because when Verizon origianally used the CDMA technology you simply could not use Verizon there, then I would have to just use a flip phone I bought in Colombia with a SIM I would buy there. Then when Smart phones seemed like a necessity I bought a "global" phone off Amazon that was multibanded for frequencies around the world, and set up for two SIM cards so I could use a USA number and a Colombia number (or what ever country I was traveling to).
How to know if the phoneis unlocked? Verizon says on their website that phones you buy from them or their "retail partners" (meaning if you bought the phone and the retailer said its a Verizon dealer, Walmart, Bestbuy etc) are locked for the first 60 days then they are automatically unlocked but it also recommends you check the phone to see if they unlocked it. Unfortunately the Verizon website the only way it says you can tell is of you insert a SIM from another carrier and get an error message. Which is bullshit.
https://www.verizon.com/support/device-locking-faqs/#locking-policy
This website tells you how to look in settings to see if there are SIM restrictions but not sure every IOS version has this in the settings.
https://www.iphonelife.com/content/how-to-know-if-your-iphone-unlocked-what-means
This website gives the customer service number to call and ask if your phone is unlocked.
https://clark.com/technology/is-my-phone-unlocked/
These days I use my Google Pixel. If I was running around Centro like you guys I would probably just carry a local drop phone also but I'm usually in the apartment, in a restaurant, or in a taxi. My Google Pixel is a multiband phone. It allows two SIM cards also but one is electronic. I bought my phone from Google and then had them install the physical Verizon SIM at Verizon outlet. (I purposely did so to avoid this 60 day bullshit because I was going to Colombia within 60 days) Then I dowloaded a Google Fi SIM electronically to use outside the USA (Google Fi is a lot cheaper than Verizon international and has the advantage of having service when I hit the ground instead of waiting to buy a local SIM. Once I hit the ATM at the airport and it flagged and caneled my only ATM card! I had not ATM card and no phone! So now I carry a spare ATM and I hit the ground with cell service LOL) Techincally with my setup I could switch back and forth between the SIMs.
That is not correct. Any SIM card will work in any network unlocked phone. The phone has to be compatible with the Colombia networks. Among the few exceptions are older 3 G phones that will provide limited coverage and no coverage at all within a few months.For awhile I used a dual SIM Huawei I bought in Colombia. It was comparable to the Samsung Galaxy I had broken. My T-Mobile SIM in one slot and a Claro SIM in the other let me use Claro for high speed data and T-Mobile for calls to and from the US. WhatsApp worked regardless of which SIM was active.
It wasn't the cheapest, but about 1 third the price of a comparable Samsung or iPhone. I felt it was an acceptable compromise.
I also went to that place in Parque Lleras and thought it was a ripoff. Then I found La Cava Puro and I have been very satisfied. The prices are fair, the selection is decent (by Medellin standards) and they have staff that speak English. They have a house brand cigar which is delightful. I prefer the blue label which is a lighter cigar. There is also a red label which is darker. This place will be one of my first stops on every trip unless I find something better.I went to La Cava Puro a few times with expats who are aficionados. I don't smoke, but it was a nice place to hang out and they recommended it.
Happy Wednesday all,
With the pandemic I don't know what's open or closed anymore. Which swinger club is your favorite and why? Do you all know the cover charges to these places?
Club Swinger.
https://www.theclubswinger.com/
This was my go to spot. Cover used to be free before 10 pm.
La piscina? Aka laureles.
CL. 52 ##73-46, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.
Sweet dreams? Aka ubp.
Av. 33 #75 see 66 Segundo Piso, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.
Sentir club swinger? Aka belen.
Calle 30#80-56, Medellin, Antioquia, Colombia.
Club swinger open minded?
This one is all the way out in san jeronimo.Any update on this? I want to try out the swinger club, but I want to hear if anyone has any experience with it before I go.
BangBangBoy
02-21-22, 22:20
So one last question regarding phones. Would an "I" phone, which I purchased from Verizon in the USA be compatible with Colombia networks. I had heard that USA phones were not compatible with the phone system in Colombia, hence I have two phones and extra Verizon SIM cards with me as you previously suggested. Again my apologies for not being technically savvy on all this, but I recall a while back another poster explained that the system or network in Colombia was not compatible with the USA system, or perhaps that has changed?If you have iPhone 6 or later, it should be multi band and work with all 4 G LTE carriers if it is unlocked. As stated by other posters, CDMA (Verizon, Sprint) vs GSM (AT&T, T-mobile, rest of the world) was a compatibility issue only for 2 G /3 G. After the world moved to 4 G LTE, theoretically all carriers use the same standard, but each carrier still use a different frequency. Some phone manufacturers didn't include multi band 4 G in their phones to keep the cost down, especially the earlier models. Newer phones are usually multi band (iPhones, Google Pixel, etc.) but the really cheap models could still be single band.
One day in Medellin and I was ready to leave.
I was there 1 week and was ready to go. Save your 3 week trips for Brazil. Much more to do there. Medellin is pretty boring to be honest and the strip club scene and bars has declined a lot.
ColombiaLover
02-22-22, 00:12
I wish more guys felt like him and the guy to whom he replied! More chicas for me!
But I don't find Medellin to be boring. Beyond the chicas, which you could easily see morning, noon and night, there are things to do. Restaurants, bars, clubs, parapent, ATV tours, Castillo, zoo, Jardin, museum with the Boteros. Hell, I love just going to one of the malls and picking up chicas. To each his own! Let's spread the word that Medellin sucks.
One day in Medellin and I was ready to leave.
If the phone is unlocked it will work with a sim card from anywhere. It doesn't matter that the phone is from the USA Or the sim card is from elsewhere, all that matters is that the phone is unlocked.I was just looking for a cheap phone for Colombia using this info:
"Will my US cell phone work in Colombia?
If your unlocked cell phone has GSM 850 and 1900 bands it should work in Colombia. A CDMA phone will not work in Colombia. In the US, both Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. An unlocked GGSM quad band phone is a good choice for Colombia and other countries."
I wish more guys felt like him and the guy to whom he replied! More chicas for me!
But I don't find Medellin to be boring. Beyond the chicas, which you could easily see morning, noon and night, there are things to do. Restaurants, bars, clubs, parapent, ATV tours, Castillo, zoo, Jardin, museum with the Boteros. Hell, I love just going to one of the malls and picking up chicas. To each his own! Let's spread the word that Medellin sucks.It's not that it sucks. It's the cheapest per screw there is but I'm 50 now so I can only do 1 girl a day. If that. If you can do 3 a day then your motivation to run around from casa to casa and use SA are higher and you will probably have more fun. My testosterone level is 200 now. I had it checked. My penis is literally dying. LOL.
It's the most convenient way for me. There are very inexpensive dual SIM phones from Xiaomi and Blu you can buy unlocked on line or at the Opera mall in Centro.
For awhile I used a dual SIM Huawei I bought in Colombia. It was comparable to the Samsung Galaxy I had broken. My T-Mobile SIM in one slot and a Claro SIM in the other let me use Claro for high speed data and T-Mobile for calls to and from the US. WhatsApp worked regardless of which SIM was active.
It wasn't the cheapest, but about 1 third the price of a comparable Samsung or iPhone. I felt it was an acceptable compromise.
I am very confident the iPhone will work. I think you will enjoy the convenience.
So one last question regarding phones. Would an "I" phone, which I purchased from Verizon in the USA be compatible with Colombia networks. I had heard that USA phones were not compatible with the phone system in Colombia, hence I have two phones and extra Verizon SIM cards with me as you previously suggested. Again my apologies for not being technically savvy on all this, but I recall a while back another poster explained that the system or network in Colombia was not compatible with the USA system, or perhaps that has changed?
MidwestMan91
02-22-22, 01:29
Hi,
I'm heading back down to Medellin in a couple weeks and was wondering if strip clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos are still open? I've not heard much talk of them recently but keen to go if they are back open as I liked the selection pre covid times.
Also when looking for FB girls how do you even begin searching for them? I'm at a loss but would like to see if there is something that takes my fancy.
I'm hoping that I can use Tinder mainly or worst case maybe even join up to SA, I'm going to try and avoid the street walkers.Its dated info but, I went to La Isla with some buddies back in August it was a Friday or Saturday night and we maybe went too early but it filled up with guys and ladies and was a great time. I didn't plan and bring enough cash.
My 2nd trip to Medellin will be March 9-18 at Hotel M, willing to meet up with any like minded guys.
MidwestMan91
02-22-22, 01:34
Hi,
I'm heading back down to Medellin in a couple weeks and was wondering if strip clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos are still open? I've not heard much talk of them recently but keen to go if they are back open as I liked the selection pre covid times.
Also when looking for FB girls how do you even begin searching for them? I'm at a loss but would like to see if there is something that takes my fancy.
I'm hoping that I can use Tinder mainly or worst case maybe even join up to SA, I'm going to try and avoid the street walkers.Its dated info but, I went to La Isla back in August with some buddies. It was a Friday or Saturday night and we went too early but it filled up with lots of ladies and customers. I thought it was worth the trip and wish I brought more money.
Ill be in Medellin March 9-18, Willing to meet up with any like minded guys. Ill be at the training wheels hotel. Hotel M.
Who was the middle aged gringo trying to grab the ass of my chica as we were going up the stairs of hotel brisas just now around 5:30?
I wish more guys felt like him and the guy to whom he replied! More chicas for me!
But I don't find Medellin to be boring. Beyond the chicas, which you could easily see morning, noon and night, there are things to do. Restaurants, bars, clubs, parapent, ATV tours, Castillo, zoo, Jardin, museum with the Boteros. Hell, I love just going to one of the malls and picking up chicas. To each his own! Let's spread the word that Medellin sucks.I 100% agree there's so much to do here. Just taking the metro and metro cable is hella fun. I took this new girlfriend chica of mine to centro comercial la central to go see a movie (uncharted fuera del mapa) in Spanish and to eat KFC. I had a great fucking time and spent only like 20 usd on everything. One day is not enough I need one lifetime here LOL.
That is not correct. Any SIM card will work in any network unlocked phone. The phone has to be compatible with the Colombia networks. Among the few exceptions are older 3 G phones that will provide limited coverage and no coverage at all within a few months.All I know is my phone is completely unlocked and works with any sim card I put in it. I picked it up in Tijuana at an elektra for like $400 usd it's a huawei P30 it came networked unlocked right out the box. It came with a unefon (AT&T) sim card I immediately put a telcel simcard in and it worked fine, I put a claro sim card in it in bogot and it works fine, I put GCI sim card in it when I'm working in Alaska and it works fine. I get 4 G data, phonecalls, txt, everything works 100% and registering it in Colombia with my passport was a breeze too.
Yes, that's how it's done.
All I know is my phone is completely unlocked and works with any sim card I put in it. I picked it up in Tijuana at an elektra for like $400 usd it's a huawei P30 it came networked unlocked right out the box. It came with a unefon (AT&T) sim card I immediately put a telcel simcard in and it worked fine, I put a claro sim card in it in bogot and it works fine, I put GCI sim card in it when I'm working in Alaska and it works fine. I get 4 G data, phonecalls, txt, everything works 100% and registering it in Colombia with my passport was a breeze too.
Who was the middle aged gringo trying to grab the ass of my chica as we were going up the stairs of hotel brisas just now around 5:30?Would not expect that in such a classy motel, maybe next time try elevator, LOL have fun, stay safe!
Any update on this? I want to try out the swinger club, but I want to hear if anyone has any experience with it before I go.Do you have a girl in Medellin who is willing to go to a swingers club with you and participate freely? If not, chances are you will be wasting your time.
Some Colombian swing clubs set up special nights for single men. Some clubs don't setup special events, but allow single men in on certain nights. The busiest nights are usually for couples only. Single women are always allowed.
If there's a special event for single men it might be worth going, although the ratio of women to men is unlikely to be in your favor. If there isn't some special event, you'll likely find a lot of men, a few women and not many who are attractive.
You can probably find a girl who will go, but most aren't going to participate. Which leaves you paying a girl so you can pay to get in and watch from the sidelines.
Swinging can be a lot of fun with the right partner, but it's not likely to be a good time with just a random girl.
FlappyGilmore
02-22-22, 03:35
I 100% agree there's so much to do here. Just taking the metro and metro cable is hella fun. I took this new girlfriend chica of mine to centro comercial la central to go see a movie (uncharted fuera del mapa) in Spanish and to eat KFC. I had a great fucking time and spent only like 20 usd on everything. One day is not enough I need one lifetime here LOL.This is what I'm looking forward to. My first stop after the hotel when I arrive next week will be the Oviedo or Santa Fe mall to test my broken Spanish. If no good prospects are found, then off to centro.
One day in Medellin and I was ready to leave.That's funny, as most guys after one day in Medellin don't want to ever leave. LOL.
It's not that it sucks. It's the cheapest per screw there is but I'm 50 now so I can only do 1 girl a day. If that. If you can do 3 a day then your motivation to run around from casa to casa and use SA are higher and you will probably have more fun. My testosterone level is 200 now. I had it checked. My penis is literally dying. LOL.You should be able to find someone to give it mouth to mouth.
Is there weeks long enough for a newbie to get his bearings in Medellin for a first trip? I speak no Spanish. I want to be there long enough to have a decent understanding of what it's like. Thanks for any help.Stay at the Mansion.
Hey guys. Haven't been there in 3 years but excited to go. I've been looking for the sex guide document with all the spots by barrio but went back 15 pages and nothing. Can someone repost please. Also I read someone mentioned a Female guide that will also fuck. Please feel free to pm me her details or repost. Ill be there from 15 to 28 of March. Splitting time at airbnb in laureles and poblado. I speak native spanish and 40 so if anyone wants to meet up and talk shop holler at me.
HornyDude353
02-22-22, 12:41
Its dated info but, I went to La Isla back in August with some buddies. It was a Friday or Saturday night and we went too early but it filled up with lots of ladies and customers. I thought it was worth the trip and wish I brought more money.
Ill be in Medellin March 9-18, Willing to meet up with any like minded guys. Ill be at the training wheels hotel. Hotel M.Great thanks for the info, I'll check it out for sure when I'm back.
Nice I'll be there same time, but most likely staying around el Poblado, so would be good to meet up and cause some chaos down there.
Mojo Bandit
02-22-22, 14:50
Hey guys. Haven't been there in 3 years but excited to go. I've been looking for the sex guide document with all the spots by barrio but went back 15 pages and nothing. Can someone repost please. Also I read someone mentioned a Female guide that will also fuck. Please feel free to pm me her details or repost. Ill be there from 15 to 28 of March. Splitting time at airbnb in laureles and poblado. I speak native spanish and 40 so if anyone wants to meet up and talk shop holler at me.There is a map and a list in the thread marked "Medellin Map and List" you might have to scroll through some posts to find them.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List
If I don't post one of three things:
1) Dead or seriously injured.
2) I am not in Medellin.
3) I am on an Epic run.
I am in Medellin at my hotel. This run started Tuesday night around 8:30. I had no plans, in fact on my mind was that I finally might get a good night's sleep.
Without any notice it started. Max time between girls has been 4 hours. Epic night with Sexy Dexy, only the second time I have seen her this trip. Two of my chicas in the top five met for the first time, Scarlet and Sexy Dexy. A tad bit icey but that's when my system kicks in to hopefully keep the peace. Scarlet is current Number Two and Sexy used to be a Number Two and Sexy wants her position back.
I am trying to remember the names of all the chicas who have been through here since the run started. I can't. Caribe just overlapped with Purrfekt Piel who is here now. Caribe is not even on the list although I can tell she is thinking about it.
Ostee Out. The end is not clearly in sight. Managerette scheduled after Purrfekt, then Spanish Teacher for her first overnight. Someone pilfered 200 mil COP of my money but I deserved it for laying it out there like Papaya. This run has not come cheap, but in the end it all balances out.So what happened to this guy? I hope he is on an epic run and not #1 or 2.
Hunglow1625
02-22-22, 17:49
I canceled my trip there last week last minute because of the requirements needed there now. Went to Mexico instead. (no requirements for tourists) I couldn't take the chance flying there and the possibly of being denied entry even though I'm hearing they aren't checking there really, just the Airlines. Silly they want at least 1 jab. How about all or none! I choose none! I want to come there but not bad enough to get 1 jab. Guess I'll have to wait until the Government there wisens up again.
You do not need to show proof of a vax. All you need is to show a completed vax card. I am not sure what access Col Immg has to various online QR linked databases, but the reality is that many countries do not issue such QR cards and Col accepts all types of cards. So a handwritten card is just as valid as a QR card. They chk your card at the airline chk in desk, and again in the queue as you approach the immigration desk on entry. The immigration official at the desk did not look at mine.
You do not need to upload or send your vax card in advance when you do the Check Mig registration.
There is no database to crosscheck your data with. Maybe they could cross check with a few countries if they had the will or desire or thousands of staff to do that. But they don't. Why not just get a card from a country that does handwritten cards? Then they can't cross check anything.
Boosters are not required to enter Col. All your card must show is a useless first round of vaxes that have already become obsolete in terms of effectiveness. That's what they want. Thats what they get. A policy as effective as the useless vaxes that they want you to have.
So what happened to this guy? I hope he is on an epic run and not #1 or 2.I speak to him off and on. He's on another epic run.
So what happened to this guy? I hope he is on an epic run and not #1 or 2.# 4-Probably in a Colombian jail cell! LOL.
Do you have a girl in Medellin who is willing to go to a swingers club with you and participate freely? If not, chances are you will be wasting your time.I would be interested as well. The old threads are pretty outdated.
On a side note, do you guys know any good love motels in Med? I can't find any by searching. I remember there were quite a few luxe ones in Rio, does Med have anything like that?
Hi.
I left medellin this morning.
Myself and about 7 other people got the secondary search.
It was on American Airlines.
This was my third trip I stayed at San Peter.
I find most of the gringos are selfish guys hardly speaks to people.
I am East Indian from Guyana Also a Canadian citizen.
I had a good time with local Colombia people.
Had 2 civilians took them Ibiza motel.
I think around 100 k for 4 hours.
You guys only talk about prices.
Why spend all that money on tickets hotels and food but don't want to give a beautiful young energetic girl 75 or 100 dollars.
That's peanuts. One guy said at the sport bar it's 30 k pesos for a smirnoff ice.
I got to have a great time.
I go to all the local bar on LA 70.
Meeting people that's what I travel for.
Sureman.
I was just looking for a cheap phone for Colombia using this info:
"Will my US cell phone work in Colombia?
If your unlocked cell phone has GSM 850 and 1900 bands it should work in Colombia. A CDMA phone will not work in Colombia. In the US, both Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. An unlocked GGSM quad band phone is a good choice for Colombia and other countries."This information might be out of date. My Verizon 5 G phone works fine in Colombia, as did the 4 G phone I had before. I did have a problem with a Verizon phone not working in Colombia, but that was 7 or 8 years ago.
So what happened to this guy? I hope he is on an epic run and not #1 or 2.I think hes got the runs... Next time i go thru centro, i'll chk to see if he is alive.
I find most of the gringos are selfish guys hardly speaks to people.
You guys only talk about prices.
Why spend all that money on tickets hotels and food but don't want to give a beautiful young energetic girl 75 or 100 dollars.
That's peanuts.
I got to have a great time.
Sureman.Hteat to hear you had a good time.
I think most people are selfish generally. You obviously don't think so. And mongering is a particularly self-centered activity.
Why pay peanuts? Bcos in reality all your buying is a metaphorical bag of peanuts.
No one said anything about check MIG last two flights I had to Colombia. Vaccine info is checked by airlines only. It is some minimum wage type employee looking for a few things. You can have the card or even a photo of the card on your phone. It is super easy to fake if you want to go that way.Why be insulting to the people you visit.
Minimum wage people.
Because you have money to travel.
Those people laugh at gringos they leave their first world homes and go to to third world countries and insult them.
Just think who is real looser.
I wish hum the best of luck but in my experience which is 45 years of traveling and hooking up. People go overboard are going to get burned sooner or later.
So what happened to this guy? I hope he is on an epic run and not #1 or 2.
DriftClouds
02-22-22, 22:34
I am about to book the hotels, it looks like it will be a long way from el Poblado to all the brothels, and there is no 4 star hotels in centro areas, difficult call.
Elvis 2008
02-22-22, 23:51
Why be insulting to the people you visit.
Minimum wage people. Because you have money to travel.Sureman, the minimum wage person works for the airline in the USA. Got it? Those minimum wage types often travel for free. The airlines get fined by Colombia if they let in unvaccinated customers.
Those people laugh at gringos they leave their first world homes and go to to third world countries and insult them.
Just think who is real looser.Vaccine status was not checked by Colombian customs this time. I do not know what you are talking about and who is laughing at gringos.
Mr Enternational
02-23-22, 00:32
You guys only talk about prices. Why spend all that money on tickets hotels and food but don't want to give a beautiful young energetic girl 75 or 100 dollars. That's peanuts. You are speaking from a vacationer/tourist point of view. If you lived there or traveled there every month would you seriously look at it as being peanuts giving a different beautiful young energetic girl $100 everyday? More than likely you would not, knowing their rent is $120 for the entire month and people in a normal job make $200 per month.
People that live places or travel to places often tend to seek out and pay more of the local rate than a vacationing spendthrift cares to think about. $100 to three girls IS peanuts over 1 week of vacation. But if a mf is constantly there it would be ridiculous for him to spend $100 on every chick he fucks in a third world country.
My first time to Chiang Mai, Thailand I was looking for a tour to do. Of course being a vacationer I wanted to have things lined up as many guys on this site do with women. Online I saw the tour that I wanted. It was $100. Being that I lived in a different part of Thailand that price sounded a little off to me, so I did not purchase it. When I landed at the airport in Chiang Mai they had booths with the same tour for sale. The price was $60. Still I did not bite.
When I got to the hotel, they were selling the same exact all-day Golden Triangle tour for $30. A normal vacationer would have probably bought the $100 tour when he saw it online since it was peanuts compared to all the money they spent on tickets and hotels, but they would have been in the exact same van getting the exact same service as me, the guy that waited until he was on the ground at the hotel and paid $30.
If it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside to give the extra money then have at it, but you are fucking the same pussy and getting the same smiles as the guy who paid the common rate.
I was just looking for a cheap phone for Colombia using this info:
"Will my US cell phone work in Colombia?
If your unlocked cell phone has GSM 850 and 1900 bands it should work in Colombia. A CDMA phone will not work in Colombia. In the US, both Verizon and Sprint use CDMA. An unlocked GGSM quad band phone is a good choice for Colombia and other countries."CDMA isn't even used anymore is it. I think all modern phones are GSM. And also sprint doesn't even exist anymore either. Apparently CDMA was an old technology and those phones didn't even have sim cards so there was no way to switch a sim card in those phones so obviously we are referring to GSM phones which are the standard nowadays.
Mr Enternational
02-23-22, 00:43
I am about to book the hotels, it looks like it will be a long way from el Poblado to all the brothels, and there is no 4 star hotels in centro areas, difficult call.Downtown is not a tourist area. There are no 4 star hotels or catering to tourists there. It is a rough and raw place.
I would be interested as well. The old threads are pretty outdated.
On a side note, do you guys know any good love motels in Med? I can't find any by searching. I remember there were quite a few luxe ones in Rio, does Med have anything like that?You can try this link for a list of love motels in Colombia. It has many of the nicer ones listed. Probably the nicest in Medellin is Motel Ibiza (listed as Ibiza Motel lounge). You can find several reviews on this thread.
https://guiacereza.com/home
DriftClouds
02-23-22, 01:33
Downtown is not a tourist area. There are no 4 star hotels or catering to tourists there. It is a rough and raw place.Damn. I am kind of lost right now because based on the map contributed by the worldtraveler69, all the pussies are located at centro areas. It is a half hour trip to centro from Poblado area. And the youtube videos shows Lleras park hookers seems overpriced. I don't know. I think I need to be there and experience it myself, landing on 2/28.
Hi.
I left medellin this morning.
Myself and about 7 other people got the secondary search.
It was on American Airlines..Can you be a little more specific about the secondary search?
When you enter into the International gate at the airport, after they confirm you have a boarding pass, there are typically two Colombian police whom are looking at Passports and decide whom may be sent for a more thorough search by the Police, besides airport security. I have seen the Colombian police going thru peoples things, paperwork, etc.
You said it was a secondary search, yet I have never seen a secondary search of anyone after going thru the main checkpoint.
I have flown on Avianca, Copa, and American and have yet to see this during the last seven years.
Was it conducted just prior to boarding the plane, and if so by whom?
Just curious, that's all.
I am about to book the hotels, it looks like it will be a long way from el Poblado to all the brothels, and there is no 4 star hotels in centro areas, difficult call.Many people, particularly first time visitors, choose to stay in El Poblado, usually close to Parque Lleras. Here are a few reasons:
1. You're more likely to find other tourists in the area around Parque Lleras, especially ones who speak English. You're also more likely to find people who can communicate in English working in the businesses around Parque Lleras.
2. Parque Lleras is the zona rosa of Medellin, the entertainment district. There are several other similar areas, such as La Setenta in Laureles, but the main one is Parque Lleras. The area has a lot of restaurants and night clubs. For some people that's important.
3. Poblado is the new money area of Medellin. That's where you'll find most of the nicest hotels and apartments and many of the best restaurants.
4. There is a general impression that Poblado is a safer area. There are people here who will tell you it's more dangerous than El Centro and people who will tell you it's safer than El Centro. It's not a simple thing and reality has little to do with the general impression.
5. Poblado is a nicer, cleaner area than El Centro.
If those reasons fit you, Poblado might be a good place to stay. There are many things to consider. First, it's only 15-20 minutes by taxi from the area near Parque Lleras to the area near the casas in El Centro and it should cost about $4. During peak traffic it will take longer.
Another thing to consider is your own impression. If you prefer to stay in 4 star hotels, you might not feel comfortable outside of a hotel in El Centro. People can tell you it's perfectly safe and there's nothing to worry about, but you won't know until you get there. More than one person has taken the advice to stay in El Centro, only to waste what they paid, because after 1 night they realized that El Centro is not their kind of place.
My advice, such as it is:
If your main concern is comfort, stay in Poblado.
If your main concern is to save money, stay in El Centro.
If you want a mix of comfort, price and proximity to casas, stay in Laureles.
Hi.
I left medellin this morning.
Myself and about 7 other people got the secondary search.
It was on American Airlines.
This was my third trip I stayed at San Peter.
I find most of the gringos are selfish guys hardly speaks to people.
I am East Indian from Guyana Also a Canadian citizen.
I had a good time with local Colombia people.
Had 2 civilians took them Ibiza motel..Many gringos are selfish and won't speak to strangers. That's a subject for another day, because there are many things involved.
I assume you are talking dollars Canadian, about $60-$80 US, or somewhere close to 250 k-300 k Colombian. Depending on where you found the girls, how long you were with them and how satisfied you were with the service, that's not much above what many people are paying.
What matters is that you had a good time.
You are speaking from a vacationer/tourist point of view. If you lived there or traveled there every month would you seriously look at it as being peanuts giving a different beautiful young energetic girl $100 everyday? More than likely you would not, knowing their rent is $120 for the entire month and people in a normal job make $200 per month.
People that live places or travel to places often tend to seek out and pay more of the local rate than a vacationing spendthrift cares to think about. $100 to three girls IS peanuts over 1 week of vacation. But if a mf is constantly there it would be ridiculous for him to spend $100 on every chick he fucks in a third world country.
My first time to Chiang Mai, Thailand I was looking for a tour to do. Of course being a vacationer I wanted to have things lined up as many guys on this site do with women. Online I saw the tour that I wanted. It was $100. Being that I lived in a different part of Thailand that price sounded a little off to me, so I did not purchase it. When I landed at the airport in Chiang Mai they had booths with the same tour for sale. The price was $60. Still I did not bite. .This is just something to think about.
The tour operator (or the girl selling sex) has to earn a certain amount to make a profit. They can sell some seats for $30 (or she can sell her seat for 30 k to some guys) because they know other seats will sell for $60 or $100 (or she knows some guys will pay 100 k or 200 k).
If everyone only pays $30 then either the tour needs to be shortened (or costs must be cut elsewhere), or the price must go up. The girls can turn more tricks to make up the difference, but that's going to end up decreasing the service and length of time.
That's the overly simplified version. In reality, there are probably other tour operators with nicer vans, or who deal with smaller groups. With the girls, you get the same thing. Some girls see several guys each day and charge the low rate. Others only see a few guys each week and charge more. Some charge different prices for different guys, depending on how bad they need the money.
Airlines, hotels and restaurants work on the same model. They can sell some seats, beds or meals at a much lower rate, but they can't sell all of them at that rate. If they try to fill every seat for the cheapest price (like the no frill airlines), they have to decrease legroom to add more seats and charge extra for everything else.
There is one bit which isn't necessarily correct. If you're paying 30 k for a girl, or paying 300 k for a girl, you're probably not talking about the same girl. There are exceptions, but it's not the norm. Certainly the 30 k girl will take 300 k if offered, but the 300 k girls aren't giving it out to other tourists for 30 k.
It works the same in most industries. Whatever your job, there are people doing the same thing for less and people doing the same thing for more. Everyone is lining up for a pay raise, but not many are volunteering for a pay cut.
There are fancy Airbnb's around Centro. You could also rent a room in Centro just for dates and showers then go back to your 4 star hotel to sleep. What I'm trying to say is if you don't want to get dirty then it's best you don't go to Centro.
Downtown is not a tourist area. There are no 4 star hotels or catering to tourists there. It is a rough and raw place.
Verizon's CDMA phones also had SIM card slots and GSM radios.
CDMA isn't even used anymore is it. I think all modern phones are GSM. And also sprint doesn't even exist anymore either. Apparently CDMA was an old technology and those phones didn't even have sim cards so there was no way to switch a sim card in those phones so obviously we are referring to GSM phones which are the standard nowadays.
PseudoGene
02-23-22, 03:40
Its dated info but, I went to La Isla back in August with some buddies. It was a Friday or Saturday night and we went too early but it filled up with lots of ladies and customers. I thought it was worth the trip and wish I brought more money.
Ill be in Medellin March 9-18, Willing to meet up with any like minded guys. Ill be at the training wheels hotel. Hotel M.Are you from Omaha?
Downtown is not a tourist area. There are no 4 star hotels or catering to tourists there. It is a rough and raw place.Then what is Hotel Nutibara?
CDMA isn't even used anymore is it. I think all modern phones are GSM...I think you are correct, GSM or LTE, but no more CDMA phones being sold, I believe.
Verizon's CDMA phones also had SIM card slots and GSM radios.That's because those phones were both CDMA and GSM so it had a sim card slot for the GSM function of the phone. If a phone was only CDMA it didn't have a sim card.
Then what is Hotel Nutibara?A two star hotel.
Lucky Nuts
02-23-22, 06:07
Can you be a little more specific about the secondary search?
When you enter into the International gate at the airport, after they confirm you have a boarding pass, there are typically two Colombian police whom are looking at Passports and decide whom may be sent for a more thorough search by the Police, besides airport security. I have seen the Colombian police going thru peoples things, paperwork, etc.
You said it was a secondary search, yet I have never seen a secondary search of anyone after going thru the main checkpoint.
I have flown on Avianca, Copa, and American and have yet to see this during the last seven years.
Was it conducted just prior to boarding the plane, and if so by whom?
Just curious, that's all.At the gate they will sometimes call names and require another search. I was called in Nov or Dec. Behind a curtiained off area next to the gate they asked me for my laptop and brushed something onto it and ran it thru a machine of some sort I assume to detect whether it contained narcotics. About ten passengers were selected for this search.
MarquisdeSade1
02-23-22, 06:12
Then what is Hotel Nutibara?1 star LMAO.
Then what is Hotel Nutibara?Two star, and that's being generous. Also mice infested by many reports. Fast little critters, tough to see anything beyond a blur when they dart out from under a baseboard. But set up some traps with peanut butter, bet ya nab something. That's Osteoknot's favorite hotel.
Then what is Hotel Nutibara?I have never checked the official rules, but I would put Nutibara at 2 star myself. The staff are maybe 3 star, and the potential is 4 star, but the reality is lower. The rooms and internet and hotlel facilities are pretty shlt.
Let me reply to the search.
As I was about to check in a guy all suited up ask a few questions about if left the city of Medellin. I said no and asked what I did.
I said I stayed in Laurels but went to El Poblado for dinner.
It was not the police.
Probably working for American Airlines.
He spoke perfect English.
I checked in did the security check.
Went to the boarding area.
About 2 hours they started to call some names.
I heard mine but no AA repwas by the boarding gate.
So 15 minutes later names were called again. I saw the female rep that checked me in.
I went up to her she collected my boarding pass.
As boarding was started at the side saw the the that spoke to me doing the searches.
My and another Indian guy from Suriname and others was Spanish people.
2 older ladies were searched.
They used a paper swabbed my hands.
Under my shirt and my hand luggage.
Put it in a machine it made some sounds.
Then I was allowed to board he said it was a random selection no one was targeted.
So that's it.
You are speaking from a vacationer/tourist point of view. If you lived there or traveled there every month would you seriously look at it as being peanuts giving a different beautiful young energetic girl $100 everyday? More than likely you would not, knowing their rent is $120 for the entire month and people in a normal job make $200 per month.
People that live places or travel to places often tend to seek out and pay more of the local rate than a vacationing spendthrift cares to think about. $100 to three girls IS peanuts over 1 week of vacation. But if a mf is constantly there it would be ridiculous for him to spend $100 on every chick he fucks in a third world country.
My first time to Chiang Mai, Thailand I was looking for a tour to do. Of course being a vacationer I wanted to have things lined up as many guys on this site do with women. Online I saw the tour that I wanted. It was $100. Being that I lived in a different part of Thailand that price sounded a little off to me, so I did not purchase it. When I landed at the airport in Chiang Mai they had booths with the same tour for sale. The price was $60. Still I did not bite.
When I got to the hotel, they were selling the same exact all-day Golden Triangle tour for $30. A normal vacationer would have probably bought the $100 tour when he saw it online since it was peanuts compared to all the money they spent on tickets and hotels, but they would have been in the exact same van getting the exact same service as me, the guy that waited until he was on the ground at the hotel and paid $30.
If it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside to give the extra money then have at it, but you are fucking the same pussy and getting the same smiles as the guy who paid the common rate.That's one reason most people go on vacation to enjoy themselves.
Not to pinch pennies. Does not matter if you live there or travel every month.
Just go and enjoy the time you are there.
You worry what other people pay to enjoy themselves.
I think people earn to make life better.
So don't make the locals laugh at you.
Mojo Bandit
02-23-22, 08:30
Hi.
You guys only talk about prices.
Why spend all that money on tickets hotels and food but don't want to give a beautiful young energetic girl 75 or 100 dollars.
That's peanuts. One guy said at the sport bar it's 30 k pesos for a smirnoff ice.
Sureman.I'm just expounding more on what MR E said: Go to the ads and see that for example most housekeepers in Colombia earn about 13 dollars for about 6 hours work, that is about $2. 50 and hour so a street walker girl (average in looks) who can make 15 dollars in 30 minutes is making like 12 times what an unskilled laborer is making. None of this includes the money put out for love hotels. Street walkers make decent money by Colombian standards
A FB chica makes about $50 in two hours so that is 20 times what a laborer makes. It also like MR E says. It is the margin that matters. If I am on a three week trip I could be with 2 FB chicas a day that's 40 chicas, if I pay them 75 each that total is 1000 dollars difference. Pay them 100 that's 2000 dollars difference - 1st rule of economics says "rational people think at the margin". These FB chicas are making excellent money by Colombian standards.
My opinion on how much to pay the girls is a ymmv basis. For example, When I picked up on that Brazilian Gabbie Carter on the beach in front of Othon Palace, I asked her how much and she said 200 reals which was 50 bucks at that time. Do you think I sat there and said her rent is probably 100 dollars a month so I better offer her 100 reals. I didn't give a crap, I was with the hottest chic I had ever been with, with natural DD and a body that screamed sex. The going rate was around 200 to 250 reals back then for gringos. That's what I paid. Don't overpay, but don't miss a opportunity for great memories because the locals might pay 25 bucks and they are charging you 50 bucks. Get over it, they are poor.
Later in the week I was in help and found another hottie that wanted 250 reals. I offered 200, and she said no, so off we went for 250. I was with her probably 6 times on two separate trips until she got fat and lost her body, but she was great while it lasted. You have to take advantage of these situations if you're young because you won't be able to bang all these hotties all week when you're 50 or 60.
I'm just expounding more on what MR E said: Go to the ads and see that for example most housekeepers in Colombia earn about 13 dollars for about 6 hours work, that is about $2. 50 and hour so a street walker girl (average in looks) who can make 15 dollars in 30 minutes is making like 12 times what an unskilled laborer is making. None of this includes the money put out for love hotels. Street walkers make decent money by Colombian standards
A FB chica makes about $50 in two hours so that is 20 times what a laborer makes. It also like MR E says. It is the margin that matters. If I am on a three week trip I could be with 2 FB chicas a day that's 40 chicas, if I pay them 75 each that total is 1000 dollars difference. Pay them 100 that's 2000 dollars difference - 1st rule of economics says "rational people think at the margin". These FB chicas are making excellent money by Colombian standards.They should make more money than a hotel worker. They are selling their body. It's a soul crushing job for a girl even if you're kind and they are attractive to you. They can only do it for a short time. I've seen girls hit the wall in 3 years in this business. I was with a hooker in Tijuana and her body was a 10.3 years later I lost interest because she gained so much weight. She turned into a 5 at best.
Can you be a little more specific about the secondary search?
When you enter into the International gate at the airport, after they confirm you have a boarding pass, there are typically two Colombian police whom are looking at Passports and decide whom may be sent for a more thorough search by the Police, besides airport security. I have seen the Colombian police going thru peoples things, paperwork, etc.
You said it was a secondary search, yet I have never seen a secondary search of anyone after going thru the main checkpoint.
I have flown on Avianca, Copa, and American and have yet to see this during the last seven years.
Was it conducted just prior to boarding the plane, and if so by whom?
Just curious, that's all.I've seen this in the US and I think I've seen it in either Bogota or Medellin (not certain because I wasn't one who was pulled).
When it happened to me in the US some of us were pulled aside just before boarding. Carry on baggage was checked and we were either frisked or scanned with the metal detector wand. In my case I believe I was selected because I changed my flight at the last minute.
I'm a bit paranoid about missing my flight because of something beyond my control, so I usually arrive about 2 hours early. That time, once I arrived I realized there was an earlier flight available and was able to switch at no cost.
Let me reply to the search.
As I was about to check in a guy all suited up ask a few questions about if left the city of Medellin. I said no and asked what I did.
I said I stayed in Laurels but went to El Poblado for dinner.
It was not the police.
Probably working for American Airlines.
He spoke perfect English.
I checked in did the security check.
Went to the boarding area.
About 2 hours they started to call some names.
I heard mine but no AA repwas by the boarding gate.
So 15 minutes later names were called again. I saw the female rep that checked me in.
I went up to her she collected my boarding pass.
As boarding was started at the side saw the the that spoke to me doing the searches.
My and another Indian guy from Suriname and others was Spanish people.
2 older ladies were searched.
They used a paper swabbed my hands.
Under my shirt and my hand luggage.
Put it in a machine it made some sounds.
Then I was allowed to board he said it was a random selection no one was targeted.
So that's it.There was some more info posted on this back in October I think. I found an article on it online a while back too. Basically the US TSA is responsible for these searches. On international flights that are bound to the US the TSA is monitoring all people who book those flights from any countries, not just Colombia, and they "randomly" select people for an SSSS search and communicate with the airlines and have them conduct the searches. I believe you will have somewhat of a heads up as you won't be able to check in online like normal, and when you get checked in at the airport the paper boarding pass will have the letters SSSS on them. Agn this is only on flights bound to the US.
Mr Enternational
02-23-22, 14:16
You worry what other people pay to enjoy themselves. I think people earn to make life better. So don't make the locals laugh at you.Looks like you have it backwards. With you paying $100 for something that costs $30, the one that the locals is laughing at is you!
No idea how it makes your life better to walk into McDonald's and pay $10 for a Big Mac that says $3 on the menu, but as I said it will give you are warm and fuzzy feeling, but you will get the same 2 beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese as everyone else that stood in line and paid $3.
Don't worry though. The locals are getting the same thing from laughing at you as you are getting for paying three times more; nothing.
Husker Dude
02-23-22, 15:10
Let me reply to the search.
As I was about to check in a guy all suited up ask a few questions about if left the city of Medellin. I said no and asked what I did.
I said I stayed in Laurels but went to El Poblado for dinner.
It was not the police.
Probably working for American Airlines.
He spoke perfect English.
I checked in did the security check.
Went to the boarding area.
About 2 hours they started to call some names.
I heard mine but no AA repwas by the boarding gate.
So 15 minutes later names were called again. I saw the female rep that checked me in.
I went up to her she collected my boarding pass.
As boarding was started at the side saw the the that spoke to me doing the searches.
My and another Indian guy from Suriname and others was Spanish people.
2 older ladies were searched.
They used a paper swabbed my hands.
Under my shirt and my hand luggage.
Put it in a machine it made some sounds.
Then I was allowed to board he said it was a random selection no one was targeted.
So that's it.I've been called once out of about 20 trips to MDE too. Same deal.
I'm just expounding more on what MR E said: Go to the ads and see that for example most housekeepers in Colombia earn about 13 dollars for about 6 hours work, that is about $2. 50 and hour so a street walker girl (average in looks) who can make 15 dollars in 30 minutes is making like 12 times what an unskilled laborer is making.That housekeeper is getting paid for every hour she is at her work site. The street walker is only getting paid when she is with a customer. She may have only one 30 minute session in six hours, and maybe none. Your example is like comparing the hourly wage of a self-employed handy man to an hourly paid full time maintenance man at a factory, hotel, etc. Some days the self employed person may have lots of customers, and some days very few or none.
Elvis 2008
02-23-22, 17:26
Looks like you have it backwards. With you paying $100 for something that costs $30, the one that the locals is laughing at is you!
Don't worry though. The locals are getting the same thing from laughing at you as you are getting for paying three times more; nothing.Yeah, I cannot tell you how many times I have gotten into a cab with my gal, and we have a cab driver looking to fleece us. I see what they see, an older man with a younger hot gal, and the cabbies think they can fleece me with the ride. If I object to the fare, it looks like I have no money and look like a fool in front of the woman.
So I cannot tell you how many times a cabbie will say a ride is 20 mil and my gal will chime in and say, "No, that is a 10 mil ride" and scold the cabbie in her motherly "I am so ashamed of you" voice. Those cabbies sink down in their seats after being busted, and after that happens, I assure you the cabbie is not laughing but I am.
Mr Enternational
02-23-22, 17:48
That housekeeper is getting paid for every hour she is at her work site. The street walker is only getting paid when she is with a customer. She may have only one 30 minute session in six hours, and maybe none. Your example is like comparing the hourly wage of a self-employed handy man to an hourly paid full time maintenance man at a factory, hotel, etc. Some days the self employed person may have lots of customers, and some days very few or none.Keep in mind that the street chick or self-employed handyman have the freedom to do whatever they want on their time between customers. The hourly workers are expected to be constantly doing some task during those hours. There are pros and cons to everything. Pick your own poison.
That housekeeper is getting paid for every hour she is at her work site. The street walker is only getting paid when she is with a customer. She may have only one 30 minute session in six hours, and maybe none. Your example is like comparing the hourly wage of a self-employed handy man to an hourly paid full time maintenance man at a factory, hotel, etc. Some days the self employed person may have lots of customers, and some days very few or none.That's an excellent point. TJBrazil made some good points too. Let me add to them.
That housekeeper is not only getting a regular paycheck, she's working a regular schedule and she's getting the transportation subsidy. With a regular schedule, she can work something out with a friend, or relative to watch her kids each day. She can take buses and the Metro and save a lot on transportation. She's probably also getting one free meal per day at work.
The street girls and casa girls might be able to work out the same deal and use public transportation, but they don't have the steady income.
The Facebook girls never know when they will work. If they need a babysitter, it's not as easy. They probably can't use public transportation because it takes too long, or isn't available for really late citas. They often need to get showered and ready with almost no notice. Plus they are on their own. A street girl or casa girl is in an environment with some protection. A Facebook girl is going to meet a complete stranger in an unknown place, with more risks involved. One common risk is that they'll arrive and the customer isn't there, sticking them with 2 expensive taxi rides and no money to pay.
It would be much simpler if we could just treat all the girls like a gumball machine. You put in a coin, twist the knob and you get a gumball. It might be a different color, with a different flavor, but everything else will be the same.
There's so much more to it.
The easiest way is to take a look in the mirror. Most of us spent many years earning a living. Some are still working, while the rest are enjoying retirement. Most of us weren't the lowest paid in our chosen profession. Where would each of us be if our earning potential had remained the same as the lowest paid workers? We probably wouldn't be arguing about the price of pussy in other countries, because travel wouldn't be in our budget.
I'm guessing each of us can justify why we deserve (or deserved) to be paid more than entry level. Better performance, more reliable, better at thinking outside the box, or working for a more profitable business are all good reasons. I doubt if many here can look back to their first paycheck and laugh at how much we are overpaid now.
Apply that elsewhere. Grocery prices are cheaper in the poorest parts of the city, property values too. A Mercedes costs more than a Kia.
Why should a girl who services you in a grubby room for 30 minutes be paid the same as a girl who comes to your apartment and stays for 3 hours? Why should a girl who looks like she just stepped off the runway in Milan be paid the same as a woman who looks like she's applying to be Danny DeVito's stunt double? Why would you pay the same for a girl who gives you the fast food restaurant level of service and for a girl with 2 Michelin stars?
Why would the women who get paid more for providing more, be laughing? Anyone here make a habit of laughing at how foolish your boss was each time you got a raise, promotion or bonus? I admit to feeling a bit giddy when I got my most recent raise, but I'm not laughing at my boss.
I don't understand why a girl I paid 200 k (or more) would be seeing another gringo for 30-70 k. Then she's going to laugh with him about me paying her so much more? While she likely is offering a lower price for Colombians, she's probably not telling them she's got a bunch of money in her pocket. Not unless she wants to get fucked and robbed.
Everyone should be figuring out the price that works for them, then find the girls who will accept that price. If you can't find acceptable girls at that price, you can keep looking. After all, there's supposedly no difference between the girls getting $500 a session and the girls getting 30 k.
Keep in mind that the street chick or self-employed handyman have the freedom to do whatever they want on their time between customers. The hourly workers are expected to be constantly doing some task during those hours. There are pros and cons to everything. Pick your own poison.Keep in mind that some self-employed handymen charge less than the franchise service company and some charge more. If I want to remodel my kitchen, the highest quote might be 3 times higher than the lowest. Will I get identical results no matter how much I pay? Maybe, but probably not. I could also get 3 identical quotes and get 3 different results.
Consider the work you do. Is everyone who does the same work paid the same price? If you earn above average, should you be paid less? If you work on something for 4 hours, should you receive the same amount as someone who put in 45 minutes? If your work is always to the highest standards, should you only be paid as much as the guy who needs constant supervision?
If you're responsible for hiring workers, do you only consider the people who will accept the lowest pay? If you did, would you expect the same production as the people who expect more?
In my experience, when I provide a better work environment and pay better, the results outweigh the costs. When I was hiring workers almost every day, I provided water and Gatorade and I paid more with incentives for a job well done. If needed I would buy lunch. Usually jobs were finished quicker with less problems. The next time I needed someone in that town, one phone call would get me the best people and my overall costs were the same or better than if I paid the lowest rate. Another bonus, I didn't have to work as hard.
I use the same philosophy with girls. I stay in nice places, at a reasonable price. I pay more for girls to come to me, on my schedule. I could pay much less in El Centro, but the environment is not as good as, the time is not as long, the typical girl is not as attractive and the average level of service is less. Plus, I'm limited to who is available at that moment.
I'm not saying everyone should do what I do, stay where I stay and pay what I pay. Instead everyone should do what works best for them and recognize that other people want different things and will be paying different prices.
Yes, you are correct on all points.
That's because those phones were both CDMA and GSM so it had a sim card slot for the GSM function of the phone. If a phone was only CDMA it didn't have a sim card.
They should make more money than a hotel worker. They are selling their body. It's a soul crushing job for a girl even if you're kind and they are attractive to you. They can only do it for a short time. I've seen girls hit the wall in 3 years in this business. I was with a hooker in Tijuana and her body was a 10.3 years later I lost interest because she gained so much weight. She turned into a 5 at best.Then I guess you would agree w Sureman. But I don't agree with this view at all. There is nothing so special about selling your body that should make the price high. Sell your knowledge, sell your education, sell your time, sell a car, sell a cellphone, sell your body. I don't see a significant difference. Only to people that are brought up in a culture where the act of sex is elevated to some esteemed level of significane and importance. But this is not the case in many, many countries, incl Colombia. And the prices and volumes of sex workers bears this out. For every girl that hits the wall after 3 years, there are countless others that don't. For every soul crushed, there are countless others that have a great time and living a better life than they could have achieved otherwise. Girls get fat or out of shape from their lifestyle choices for a 100 different factors.
That's why I said girls get paid "peanuts" for sex - bcos they are selling peanuts. It may as well be. There is no material difference. In fact, the coffee and candy girls in El Centro are living proof!
IMO.
And what's more, if I felt like you do, I doubt that I would monger.
Then I guess you would agree w Sureman. But I don't agree with this view at all. There is nothing so special about selling your body that should make the price high. Sell your knowledge, sell your education, sell your time, sell a car, sell a cellphone, sell your body. I don't see a significant difference. Only to people that are brought up in a culture where the act of sex is elevated to some esteemed level of significane and importance. But this is not the case in many, many countries, incl Colombia. And the prices and volumes of sex workers bears this out. For every girl that hits the wall after 3 years, there are countless others that don't. For every soul crushed, there are countless others that have a great time and living a better life than they could have achieved otherwise. Girls get fat or out of shape from their lifestyle choices for a 100 different factors.
That's why I said girls get paid "peanuts" for sex - bcos they are selling peanuts. It may as well be. There is no material difference. In fact, the coffee and candy girls in El Centro are living proof!
IMO.
And what's more, if I felt like you do, I doubt that I would monger.This is 100% true. Maybe some girls get burnt out after a while but it is because of their religious views not because of their inability to be service providers. My homegirl Violeta (also in Tijuana) has been working since like 2003 and she is still out there in callejon Coahuila working everyday. These girls make way more money working this industry than they would working in a fucking Éxito or D1 or what have you, and many of them are happy with the desicions they have made and the money that they make.
RiceRocket99
02-23-22, 23:23
A webcam girl I've known for a few years just hit the gringo jackpot. She about to marry a 60 something West Coast guy whose pockets are loaded. They've known each other for less than 1 year. She has an American credit card, about to go through the visa process, and goes on spending sprees with him. I know this firsthand since I used to mess with her back then and we kept in touch.
I went to visit her barrio and her place is all decked out. A total 180 from a year ago when I was last there. It went from a small bare bones no furniture house to a full fledge penthouse haha no joke. I guess no such thing as building permits in Medellin. She’s smart, she keeps the outside modest, but inside it’s a like a high end Poblado spot. I see pictures of them in seemingly monthly vacations. I'm happy for her, but damn. My fellow gringo, if you are on this board (I highly doubt he is), DON'T DO IT! But do what makes you happy. Just knowing who she is, not sure how long this engagement / marriage will last. Funny thing, I know and talk to her family when I visit and I said your daughter / niece is the luckiest girl in the barrio and they all agreed hehe.
Today, I saw a fellow American or Canadian Chino in his 30's roaming around alone in my neck of the woods. Not sure if he's on this forum, but sorry bro, I already called dibs on the northern suburbs hehe. I kindly ask you to go back down south for your safety, and please leave your cargo shorts at home. But if we cross paths again, I'll buy you a beer hehe.
JamesPearle
02-23-22, 23:35
What's funny is that people will talk about how terrible prostitution is because it's soul-crushing, dirty, whatever and then walk past 3 female janitors who spend 8 - 12 hours per day for less than minimum wage literally cleaning up other people's sh*t and not give them a second thought. So is the concern really, truly about everyone in the world having a high paying, clean, sophisticated job?
Then I guess you would agree w Sureman. But I don't agree with this view at all. There is nothing so special about selling your body that should make the price high. Sell your knowledge, sell your education, sell your time, sell a car, sell a cellphone, sell your body. I don't see a significant difference. Only to people that are brought up in a culture where the act of sex is elevated to some esteemed level of significane and importance. But this is not the case in many, many countries, incl Colombia. And the prices and volumes of sex workers bears this out. For every girl that hits the wall after 3 years, there are countless others that don't. For every soul crushed, there are countless others that have a great time and living a better life than they could have achieved otherwise. Girls get fat or out of shape from their lifestyle choices for a 100 different factors.
That's why I said girls get paid "peanuts" for sex - bcos they are selling peanuts. It may as well be. There is no material difference. In fact, the coffee and candy girls in El Centro are living proof!.
A webcam girl I've known for a few years just hit the gringo jackpot. She about to marry a 60 something West Coast guy whose pockets are loaded. They've known each other for less than 1 year. She has an American credit card, about to go through the visa process, and goes on spending sprees with him. I know this firsthand since I used to mess with her back then and we kept in touch.
I went to visit her barrio and her place is all decked out. A total 180 from a year ago when I was last there. It went from a small bare bones no furniture house to a full fledge penthouse haha no joke. I guess no such thing as building permits in Medellin. Shes smart, she keeps the outside modest, but inside its a like a high end Poblado spot. I see pictures of them in seemingly monthly vacations. I'm happy for her, but damn. My fellow gringo, if you are on this board (I highly doubt he is), DON'T DO IT! But do what makes you happy. Just knowing who she is, not sure how long this engagement / marriage will last. Funny thing, I know and talk to her family when I visit and I said your daughter / niece is the luckiest girl in the barrio and they all agreed hehe..This webcam girl hasn't even cashed out yet.
I know a gringo dentist in his sixties who has a Paisa girlfriend half his age who has a daughter that he has known for like 4 years. About three years ago he bought a Penthouse apartment in Poblado which they have lived in together for over three years.
I believe under Colombian law that after two years of a couple living together, they are considered married, and if and when she want's to split, she is entitled to half of everything in Colombia if she decides to pursue this.
I brought this up to him, and he seemed resigned to it possibly happening.
He's loaded as well, and perhaps for some of the most wealthy, it's just chump change to them, and worth the happiness.
Like many of us, we use our small heads when we get enamored with some of these women.
JonnyPokerStar
02-24-22, 00:28
Downtown is not a tourist area.I know what you're saying, but it is and it isn't. Any time I pass by that way I see at least 5 or 6 gringos mongering by tostao, from 0 to 20 mongering in Botero / Veracruz area, and then also multiple walking tours. That being said it would be bizarre to see a 3 star hotel spring up there. Also I think Nutibara would be pretty nice if it were correctly managed (10th floor).
JohnnyWalker55
02-24-22, 00:44
What's funny is that people will talk about how terrible prostitution is because it's soul-crushing, dirty, whatever and then walk past 3 female janitors who spend 8 - 12 hours per day for less than minimum wage literally cleaning up other people's sh*t and not give them a second thought. So is the concern really, truly about everyone in the world having a high paying, clean, sophisticated job?So many non mongers I speak to assume the hookers I get are sex trafficked, underage crackheads.
It's people talking out of their ass, Every WG I've asked prefer sex work than the shitty min. Wag job they were working prior, and the 4-5 x increase in pay not only helps them, but their kids.
just had a great GFE with a casa girl today who's been there for 7 months, i repeat with her, and she literally said she loves her job. she was working as a secretary before and was making dog sh*t.
now she has time to workout, eat healthier, and spend time with her kids. (her words). street girls is a diff story but the point stands. the vennies in Botero I've asked RE this subject make enough to not work weekends (work when they want to), afford their own rent, and send money back home.
The pretty girls int eh orange jump suits cleaning shit on the street have too much dignity IMO LOL!
JohnnyWalker55
02-24-22, 00:47
https://www.alertapaisa.com/noticias/valle-de-aburra/en-medellin-retiran-el-uso-de-tapabocas-en-espacios-publicos
AKA open season on non-pros. Tis the season.
No more outdoor masks in MDE Thanks for sharing. I wondered why there were so many people walking around in masks outside. Hehe. I didn't realise there was a state demand for it. I have been walking around without any pretence of a mask for the past year (after the previous year of walking around with one around my neck).
Yet more proof, if we needed any, that these regulations are just plucked out of their arses. Nearly everyone in the world agrees that masks outside are totally pointless. There is less agreement on them being useless indoors too, but. One step at a time.
BlackThought
02-24-22, 02:28
There was some more info posted on this back in October I think. I found an article on it online a while back too. Basically the US TSA is responsible for these searches. On international flights that are bound to the US the TSA is monitoring all people who book those flights from any countries, not just Colombia, and they "randomly" select people for an SSSS search and communicate with the airlines and have them conduct the searches. I believe you will have somewhat of a heads up as you won't be able to check in online like normal, and when you get checked in at the airport the paper boarding pass will have the letters SSSS on them. Agn this is only on flights bound to the US.Dealt with this in Europe traveling back to the USA A few times. I think they're checking for drugs.
A Facebook girl is going to meet a complete stranger in an unknown place, with more risks involved. One common risk is that they'll arrive ridiculously fucking late without calling, and the customer isn't there, sticking them with 2 expensive taxi rides or some pelotudo from her barrio and no money to pay.Fixed that for you.
A webcam girl I've known for a few years just hit the gringo jackpot. She about to marry a 60 something West Coast guy whose pockets are loaded. They've known each other for less than 1 year. She has an American credit card, about to go through the visa process, and goes on spending sprees with him. I know this firsthand since I used to mess with her back then and we kept in touch.
I went to visit her barrio and her place is all decked out. A total 180 from a year ago when I was last there. It went from a small bare bones no furniture house to a full fledge penthouse haha no joke. I guess no such thing as building permits in Medellin. Shes smart, she keeps the outside modest, but inside its a like a high end Poblado spot. I see pictures of them in seemingly monthly vacations. I'm happy for her, but damn. My fellow gringo, if you are on this board (I highly doubt he is), DON'T DO IT! But do what makes you happy. Just knowing who she is, not sure how long this engagement / marriage will last. Funny thing, I know and talk to her family when I visit and I said your daughter / niece is the luckiest girl in the barrio and they all agreed hehe.
Today, I saw a fellow American or Canadian Chino in his 30's roaming around alone in my neck of the woods. Not sure if he's on this forum, but sorry bro, I already called dibs on the northern suburbs hehe. I kindly ask you to go back down south for your safety, and please leave your cargo shorts at home. But if we cross paths again, I'll buy you a beer hehe.You think like a kid. 80% of Americans are married women which are 0 of 10 and have to work hard to keep them happy. If a man in his 60th paying to a young girl to keep him happy he is a lot more smart that 80% of Americans. In addition, it's not allowed to bring your money to another world.
I am a long-time veteran of mongering in Cuba during its heyday, Costa Rica during its heyday, and Nuevo Laredo as well. Medellin is the new playground. Each trip I have something of a focus. After RTFF, this trip I decided to concentrate on candy and coffee girls in Centro. I am mostly a day / evening guy anyway, so this worked out perfect. I did do the Lleres however. I had seen the candy and coffee girls many times, but never thought to approach them until my brothers here enlightened me. They were not wrong. I had excellent experiences with some very cute ladies, who all wanted 30. I upgraded for my sick fetishes. Up to 50 and a couple of times to 100 (max $25), and they jumped on it like a dog on a bone. Pun intended. Clearly one has to do more due diligence, but they are out there and they are plentiful. Generally speaking, odds are better for a great time, GFE, with a coffee or candy girl than they standard Centro worker at the same spot every day. Thanks for the heads up.
As a side note, I had a hotel a block from Lleres, but also got an inexpensive condo 2 blocks away to play in. Nice to have both. Hotel was the safe house. The receptionist noticed I did not bring ladies back and I told her that I was only interested in her. Not the hookers at the park. She had my phone number off my registration and called me. Spent two nights with her at the condo after she got off work. Of course gave her a propina as well. She did not ask, but strongly hinted. LMAO.
Anyway, was another trip for the books. I should post more as I did in my younger days. Will try do do better. Til later.
Happy hunting.
Snook.
Gabbarsing
02-24-22, 03:41
I am a long-time veteran of mongering in Cuba during its heyday, Costa Rica during its heyday, and Nuevo Laredo as well. Medellin is the new playground. Each trip I have something of a focus. After RTFF, this trip I decided to concentrate on candy and coffee girls in Centro. I am mostly a day / evening guy anyway, so this worked out perfect. I did do the Lleres however. I had seen the candy and coffee girls many times, but never thought to approach them until my brothers here enlightened me. They were not wrong. I had excellent experiences with some very cute ladies, who all wanted 30. I upgraded for my sick fetishes. Up to 50 and a couple of times to 100 (max $25), and they jumped on it like a dog on a bone. Pun intended. Clearly one has to do more due diligence, but they are out there and they are plentiful. Generally speaking, odds are better for a great time, GFE, with a coffee or candy girl than they standard Centro worker at the same spot every day. Thanks for the heads up.
As a side note, I had a hotel a block from Lleres, but also got an inexpensive condo 2 blocks away to play in. Nice to have both. Hotel was the safe house. The receptionist noticed I did not bring ladies back and I told her that I was only interested in her. Not the hookers at the park. She had my phone number off my registration and called me. Spent two nights with her at the condo after she got off work. Of course gave her a propina as well. She did not ask, but strongly hinted. LMAO..Thank you for your report.
What is candy and coffee girls? And are there any termas or clubs or Medellin is more like a catching sw?
Did you find it easy to get BBFS or that's not your cup of tea?
Last question: where can I find top quality gals in Medellin?
I am a long-time veteran of mongering in Cuba during its heyday, Costa Rica during its heyday, and Nuevo Laredo as well. Medellin is the new playground. Each trip I have something of a focus. After RTFF, this trip I decided to concentrate on candy and coffee girls in Centro. I am mostly a day / evening guy anyway, so this worked out perfect. I did do the Lleres however. I had seen the candy and coffee girls many times, but never thought to approach them until my brothers here enlightened me. They were not wrong. I had excellent experiences with some very cute ladies, who all wanted 30. I upgraded for my sick fetishes. Up to 50 and a couple of times to 100 (max $25), and they jumped on it like a dog on a bone. Pun intended. Clearly one has to do more due diligence, but they are out there and they are plentiful. Generally speaking, odds are better for a great time, GFE, with a coffee or candy girl than they standard Centro worker at the same spot every day. Thanks for the heads up.
As a side note, I had a hotel a block from Lleres, but also got an inexpensive condo 2 blocks away to play in. Nice to have both. Hotel was the safe house. The receptionist noticed I did not bring ladies back and I told her that I was only interested in her. Not the hookers at the park. She had my phone number off my registration and called me. Spent two nights with her at the condo after she got off work. Of course gave her a propina as well. She did not ask, but strongly hinted. LMAO.How did you go about hooking up with the candy and coffee people? Were you straight forward? Did you kinda test the waters and feel about and see what they was going to say before taking the plunge?
Mojo Bandit
02-24-22, 06:32
As boarding was started at the side saw the the that spoke to me doing the searches.
My and another Indian guy from Suriname and others was Spanish people.
2 older ladies were searched.
They used a paper swabbed my hands.
Under my shirt and my hand luggage.
Put it in a machine it made some sounds.
So that's it.About twelve years ago I started making trips to Colombia, only then I was only going to Cartagena. Cartagena had a fairly small airport back then, it has tripled in size now but back then it really had a third world feel to the place. When you would be heading to the boarding gate, bofore you entered the actual terminal you passed through uniformed solidiers with machinge guns slung in front of them "at the ready" style.
Every time I would get called over to the side by these machine gun toting soldiers and I would have to put my luggage on a table in front of them as they went through it and evertime they would send me up a little flight of stairs off the the side where I had to stand on a conveyer belt that past me through and x-ray. So these days it is quite the different experience.
While yes 1 million cop a month is a lot of money for the average Colombian. You're dealing with young girls who stare at social media all day and want things the rest of the world has.
For example phones, designer clothes, cars, etc.
The problem is the price for these things is the same in Colombia as in the states.
So from that perspective the "hotter girls" or the more in demand girls think 200-300 mil is not a lot of money.
I know girls are happy averaging 300 mil a week and others who make 4-5 million cop a week!!
A couple of Vanes girls that use to be 200 mil a pop won't take anything less than 500 which is laughable because I don't believe they are in the 500 mil class.
As I stated before with the short shelf life of this occupation can you blame the girls for trying to get more $$.
My only issue with girls is not about how much $$ they make but it seems like the more they start charging the service actually deteriorates. When they start flexing like they are hot shit and are an absolute lousy lay!! They're still prostituting and they think they're better than someone because of their new found financial status which never lasts long.
I'm all for girls or anyone doing what they got to do to make $$ as long as they don't harm another human.
But you would think charging more you would at least want to keep your customers coming back LOL.
I had an excellent session last night with a metro girl that I found standing in the stairs underneath the metro Parque Berrio station. Cute 20 year old vennie spinner with died brown / dirty blonde hair. We went to hotel botero real. She only wanted 30 k COP but I upgraded a bit I got her to give me BBBJ as well as as BBFS with CIP for about an hour for 80 k COP. Excellent service she had the nicest little shaved pussy that fit me like a glove and knew how to move her body. Very sensual tambien with DFK kissing and tongue play. She got on top and made herself cum too. And while I was banging the crap out of her tight hole trying to get my nut she kept saying Ay Dios and Mierda LOL. I made her cum as 2nd time as I was getting mine. Excellent service and worth every peso.
LoveItHere69
02-24-22, 15:14
Yeah, I cannot tell you how many times I have gotten into a cab with my gal, and we have a cab driver looking to fleece us. I see what they see, an older man with a younger hot gal, and the cabbies think they can fleece me with the ride. If I object to the fare, it looks like I have no money and look like a fool in front of the woman.Agree. Seems like every where I go. It happens about 30% of the time. It kills the mood, so I flat out refuse to use a taxi.
Being a pharmacist, I say the generic drugs are the way to go. The active ingredient of both the generic & band name drugs are made in the same place. The active ingredient is then sent to the various manufacturers, where they stamp out the pills or make into capsules.What OTC drugs in Colombia would you recommend bringing back for personal use that may be prescription only in the USA? Thinking maybe along the lines of general pain and to lower cholesterol or blood pressure.
Husker Dude
02-24-22, 16:30
What OTC drugs in Colombia would you recommend bringing back for personal use that may be prescription only in the USA? Thinking maybe along the lines of general pain and to lower cholesterol or blood pressure.Antibiotics.
Agree. Seems like every where I go. It happens about 30% of the time. It kills the mood, so I flat out refuse to use a taxi.Download this app called inDriver its like Uber but better and it works really good in Colombia.
Download this app called inDriver its like Uber but better and it works really good in Colombia.Yes really good, and worth its weight in gold for first time visitor not speaking Spanish, never say a word order on phone and jump in and be on your way with zero jam up, can't recommend it enough! Enjoy!
I had an excellent session last night with a metro girl that I found standing in the stairs underneath the metro Parque Berrio station. Cute 20 year old vennie spinner with died brown / dirty blonde hair. We went to hotel botero real. She only wanted 30 k COP but I upgraded a bit I got her to give me BBBJ as well as as BBFS with CIP for about an hour for 80 k COP. Excellent service she had the nicest little shaved pussy that fit me like a glove and knew how to move her body. Very sensual tambien with DFK kissing and tongue play. She got on top and made herself cum too. And while I was banging the crap out of her tight hole trying to get my nut she kept saying Ay Dios and Mierda LOL. I made her cum as 2nd time as I was getting mine. Excellent service and worth every peso.Dammit you've let the cat out of the bag.
Yes, there are some nice ones that hang around the stairs going up to the Paque Berrio Metro Station.
And they work the area, hoping to snag a client before guys walk over to ground zero.
As far as what you paid, you might have just laid out the program you wanted before pulling her, and told her what you were willing to pay.
That's at least how some guys I know who are gringos work El Centro, and maybe that's what you did, but everybody handles things differently, with no right way or wrong way, and for approximately $ 20 USD well worth it.
And sounds like when she said "shit" in Spanish, she was cumming as well.
How did you go about hooking up with the candy and coffee people? Were you straight forward? Did you kinda test the waters and feel about and see what they was going to say before taking the plunge?If you don't speak Spanish, your going to have a hard time, especially with the "coffee girls", versus the "candy girls". This may not make sense to you, but there is a difference between them. Good Luck!
LoveItHere69
02-24-22, 19:47
Download this app called inDriver its like Uber but better and it works really good in Colombia.Yeah, all those are in the app store list. I use Didi. InDriver asks you to offer a price and see who accepts. If nobody accepts you increase your offering price and try again. I rarely ever need a ride so I have no idea what to offer and I do not want to go back and forth. I like street girls and get a hotel within walking distance to them.
MarquisdeSade1
02-24-22, 20:10
What OTC drugs in Colombia would you recommend bringing back for personal use that may be prescription only in the USA? Thinking maybe along the lines of general pain and to lower cholesterol or blood pressure.Buy prescription drugs in the 3rd world.
Some buy Viagra etc, I won't even do that.
The quality or lack thereof may kill you or your loved ones (or maybe not).
The more critical it is to your health the more critical it is that you buy the "real" thing from a western pharmacy in a western country.
Mr Enternational
02-24-22, 20:42
My opinion on how much to pay the girls is a ymmv basis. For example, When I picked up on that Brazilian Gabbie Carter on the beach in front of Othon Palace, I asked her how much and she said 200 reals which was 50 bucks at that time. Do you think I sat there and said her rent is probably 100 dollars a month so I better offer her 100 reals. I didn't give a crap, I was with the hottest chic I had ever been with, with natural DD and a body that screamed sex. The going rate was around 200 to 250 reals back then for gringos. That's what I paid. Don't overpay, but don't miss a opportunity for great memories because the locals might pay 25 bucks and they are charging you 50 bucks. Get over it, they are poor.
Later in the week I was in help and found another hottie that wanted 250 reals. I offered 200, and she said no, so off we went for 250.You said it right at first, payment for a freelancer is a ymmv situation. But then you turn around and talk about a going rate. Which is it? How can it be both? Because I lived in Rio during those times and the most I ever gave a chick from Help was 150 reais for all night. There were indeed reports on ISG of guys giving them 300. A chick off the beach or at Meia Pataca during the day? 100 reais.
What does anyone being poor have to do with anything?
I just took an Indriver from the airport in Bogota. I paid 14,400 pesos. I could have paid 17,000 to another driver that put in his bid. I could have paid 38,500 for an Uber. I could have paid 40,000 for a taxi. Which of these is the going rate for a ride from the airport and why should I have gotten the ride for 40,000 versus the one I took for 14,400? The Indriver that brought me was actually a yellow taxi anyway.
I mean all these guys are probably poor and putting wear and tear on their cars. And they have to sit in those small cars all day and make their way through heavy traffic. My guy even lifted my heavy ass suitcase. Should I have just given him 26,000 more to match the 40,000 airport taxi?
I get it though. Pussy makes guys "not give a crap" and proud of doing things they would not ordinarily do in any other situation.
ChuchoLoco
02-24-22, 21:17
Let me reply to the search.
As I was about to check in a guy all suited up ask a few questions about if left the city of Medellin. I said no and asked what I did.
I said I stayed in Laurels but went to El Poblado for dinner.
It was not the police.
Probably working for American Airlines.
He spoke perfect English.
I checked in did the security check..I had that happen to me in Miami once and they used swabs or pieces of cloth. Search was because I changed flights somewhere along the line from what I had originally booked and it was my birthday to add some insult. They weren't looking for drugs but said chemicals or bomb ingredients. I left Colombia yesterday, Medellin, and so many lines and checks that it was nuts. Getting in is easy but leaving was tough. I thought I had all forms completed but didn't know I also need exit migration. Be sure to do that fellas. It's a pain doing it standing in line at the airport check-in.
I went to both of these places within the last week, so I thought I would give a review of each and compare.
Esperanza is in Poblado which makes it more convenient than Happy Massage since Happy is in a place where not many mongers would stay. I took an Uber to Happy for like $3, so it's still pretty accessible.
In terms of price, Esperanza was 130 k while Happy was 185 k for body on body massage.
I'm terms of the whole experience, Happy really did feel like luxury which is why it costs more I guess. The person responding to you on WhatsApp is fantastic and speaks English. You arrive and it's really professional. The masseuse leads you to the room and the room is very nice.
In terms of the massage, the massage by Happy was so much better. The woman at Happy was like a 9 in my book while the Esperanza woman was like a 7 or 8. Both really hot, but the Happy masseuse was crazy hot. Also the massage and the whole experience was so much better at Happy. Like obviously we're not really going for a massage, but the Happy masseuse actually gave a really good massage. And in terms of the sexual components she was much better as well. She was great at the body to body part and was really good at "accidentally" touching your dick while massaging. Then she also gave a way better HJ at the end as well.
So overall I would definitely suggest Happy if you are willing to pay the extra money for the Uber and the price.
Dealt with this in Europe traveling back to the USA A few times. I think they're checking for drugs.Yes my boarding pass has. SSSS.
Will always remember this.
I did check in online for AA flight.
Antibiotics.Thanks, Husker Dude!
Actually they are checking for anything and everything. Drugs, undeclared cash in excess of US $10,000, any other contraband. Like most frequent travelers, I have been flagged a handful of times. It's a major pain in the ass. It hasn't happened to me in a few years. Maybe it's because I don't travel as often as I used to.
Dealt with this in Europe traveling back to the USA A few times. I think they're checking for drugs.
Mr Enternational
02-25-22, 01:33
No idea if this chick is a 10 or a 2. But I was talking to a Venezuelan chick in Bogota from Cupid and she told me that she does not have time for a boyfriend (what the hell is she doing on the site then), but would hook me up with her cousin in Medellin. I said that I did not want to meet any hookers because I know many women in Medellin are hookers. She said her cousin is not a hooker. Turns out the chick is a nurse. Don't know how I keep ending up with all these nurses in Colombia. Anyway we have been talking and will meet up when I get there in a couple of days.
Dcrist0527
02-25-22, 01:58
Can you be a little more specific about the secondary search?
When you enter into the International gate at the airport, after they confirm you have a boarding pass, there are typically two Colombian police whom are looking at Passports and decide whom may be sent for a more thorough search by the Police, besides airport security. I have seen the Colombian police going thru peoples things, paperwork, etc.
You said it was a secondary search, yet I have never seen a secondary search of anyone after going thru the main checkpoint.
I have flown on Avianca, Copa, and American and have yet to see this during the last seven years.
Was it conducted just prior to boarding the plane, and if so by whom?
Just curious, that's all.Happened to me on my last trip. I checked in, no problem. Got my boarding pass. What's different for me than what others reported was there was no SSSS on my boarding pass. Just as they start boarding, they call 6, maybe 8 names. Mine was the last name called. At this point, I just figured it was a routine passport check. I went to the counter and they told me to walk through a door just behind their desk. I got there and there was one man in front of me. He didn't know what was going on either. About that time, they are just about done boarding. He and I were both getting a little antsy.
Eventually, airline employees called us back separately. They explained TSA selected me randomly. So they thoroughly searched my carryon. I had to take out all electronics, turn them on and illustrate 2 apps. Odd. Shoes off and searched. Pretty thorough patdown.
Cost of international travel, I suppose. But damn, how much money is spent with very little payoff.
There is so much to say here. I don't work for minimum wage is the US so why do you guys think a in shape attractive 21 yo should make minimum to be with you. As I said before, they have a short shelf life. They should make as much as they can. I made 200 a day at my job. That's 3 x minimum wage. If 15 a day is minimum in Brazil than that's 45.00 at 3 x. That's about what I was paying in Brazil and Medellin. Why do you guys hate on girls for wanting to make at least that. I just don't get this "I'm going to offer 10 dollars to a 9/10 because that's minimum at a factory". Also, I don't pay 10 for a Big Mac if it says 3. All Big Macs are the same. Not all girls look the same or provide the same service.
Sure, I've had Brazilian girls on the beach offer me 100 reals, but they weren't attractive so I declined. The girls I paid 200 reals too looked amazing, we're in great shape, and they knew it. At least they looked amazing to me. That's what I mean by ymmv. Women learn at a early age what they are worth, by the amount of guys that hit on them and check them out when they are walking around. It's easy for attractive girls in the US to get laid, but ugly girls can't get laid to save their life. I worked with a security guard that weighed 260 pounds. No guys were on her jock. She probably never got laid. It's easy for attractive girls in Rio to get 200 reals back in the day because there was competition for her. Mr E comparing girls to Big Macs and taxi drivers is assinine. I try to get the taxi as cheap as I can because they are like Big Macs to me. I'm not being ripped off by those criminals.
While yes 1 million cop a month is a lot of money for the average Colombian. You're dealing with young girls who stare at social media all day and want things the rest of the world has.
My only issue with girls is not about how much $$ they make but it seems like the more they start charging the service actually deteriorates. When they start flexing like they are hot shit and are an absolute lousy lay!! They're still prostituting and they think they're better than someone because of their new found financial status which never lasts long.
I'm all for girls or anyone doing what they got to do to make $$ as long as they don't harm another human.
But you would think charging more you would at least want to keep your customers coming back LOL.Once a girl gets "known" among the gringo hoard, her price goes up and her service generally gets worse. If a chica quotes a ridiculous price, it's best to put them on ignore and find one who hasn't been on the gringo circuit as long.
Mr Enternational
02-25-22, 06:28
I don't work for minimum wage is the US so why do you guys think a in shape attractive 21 yo should make minimum to be with you.Because having a pussy and fucking someone requires no special skills. Half of the planet actually has one. Even the most beautiful model ever has to learn certain skills for their craft and do not start off making top money. All a hooker has to do is open her legs. Evidently a young, pretty chick with nothing else going for herself besides being able to open her legs really amazes some guys.
Once a girl gets "known" among the gringo hoard, her price goes up and her service generally gets worse. If a chica quotes a ridiculous price, it's best to put them on ignore and find one who hasn't been on the gringo circuit as long.This I agree with.
FB girls who use to take 200-250 saying they won't come out for so little money anymore.
This is the problem I have with providers because even if you agree to their terms you now know they won't be the same as when they were hungry to make the 200-250.
And this blame falls solely on the weekend warriors who get so fucked up and don't care if they get lousy service.
This I agree with.
FB girls who use to take 200-250 saying they won't come out for so little money anymore.
This is the problem I have with providers because even if you agree to their terms you now know they won't be the same as when they were hungry to make the 200-250.
And this blame falls solely on the weekend warriors who get so fucked up and don't care if they get lousy service.No offense and do correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you use to flex on this board like you only went for 9's and 10's and those 9/10's don't go for 200 k-250 k. The second part might still be true, but people have told you then and you also know now that the higher the price the worse the service. The fact is the looks don't really make up for it. No one's going to argue that 500 k for a session with a 9 is cheap in USD terms, but unless you're a virgin who ejaculates in 1 minute, the experience is going to suck because that's how long she's going to give you to come.
There is so much to say here. I don't work for minimum wage is the US so why do you guys think a in shape attractive 21 yo should make minimum to be with you. As I said before, they have a short shelf life. They should make as much as they can. I made 200 a day at my job. That's 3 x minimum wage. If 15 a day is minimum in Brazil than that's 45.00 at 3 x. That's about what I was paying in Brazil and Medellin. Why do you guys hate on girls for wanting to make at least that. I just don't get this "I'm going to offer 10 dollars to a 9/10 because that's minimum at a factory". Also, I don't pay 10 for a Big Mac if it says 3. All Big Macs are the same. Not all girls look the same or provide the same service.
Sure, I've had Brazilian girls on the beach offer me 100 reals, but they weren't attractive so I declined. The girls I paid 200 reals too looked amazing, we're in great shape, and they knew it. At least they looked amazing to me. That's what I mean by ymmv. Women learn at a early age what they are worth, by the amount of guys that hit on them and check them out when they are walking around. It's easy for attractive girls in the US to get laid, but ugly girls can't get laid to save their life. I worked with a security guard that weighed 260 pounds..You got it exactly right. There's nothing wrong with paying a fair price to get what you want. After all you worked for your money. You should be allowed to decide how to spend it.
If I want a better meal, I go to a better restaurant with better food and I pay more. If I want to stay in a nicer place, I don't go to a $15 a night hotel and I don't go to a nice hotel and insist they only charge me $15 per night. I pay the price appropriate for what I want. And if I want a chunky 30-40 year old woman, I don't hop on a plane. I just go to any bar, smile, buy a drink and take one home. Why waste time and money traveling to pay for what just about anyone can get for free?
I don't understand the weird comparisons. The price at McDonald's is the price at McDonald's. The food at one McDonald's is the same as at another McDonald's. It's not negotiable, it doesn't vary.
Let's try a real comparison. If want a nice filet, I don't go to McDonald's, pay $50 and pretend one of their hamburgers is the same as a filet. I head to a restaurant where I can get a nice filet. I don't tell them I'm only paying the same as I would pay at McDonald's and I'm not paying the filet price and asking the waiter to go get me a burger from McDonald's. I get the filet and I pay for the filet.
As for taxis in Bogota. You walk out of the terminal and hop on the bus to Portal Eldorado. It's free. You get off the bus buy a card for the TransMilenio, get on the bus going to where you want to go. It costs less than 3 k and it's usually quicker than a taxi.
Or use an app, or get one of the airport taxis. Whatever works for you. If paying or saving 10-15 k is going to have any impact on your visit, then you've got a lot bigger problems than what someone else is spending.
Because having a pussy and fucking someone requires no special skills. Half of the planet actually has one. Even the most beautiful model ever has to learn certain skills for their craft and do not start off making top money. All a hooker has to do is open her legs. Evidently a young, pretty chick with nothing else going for herself besides being able to open her legs really amazes some guys.I hate to say it, but it seems like you've never had a decent lay. What's worse, apparently you've never given a girl a decent lay.
I've had a few like that, where the girl thinks all she has to do is open her legs. Conversations with some of my ex's taught me that a lot of guys think all there is to fucking is having a hard dick.
Hopefully some day you'll find a woman who knows that there's a helluva lot more to it than just spreading her legs.
For everyone else, take a moment to consider the difference between a lousy blowjob and one that curls your toes. Think about the girls who just lay there and say "leche papi" and the ones who fuck you like it's an Olympic sport. How about the ones who have made you tap out?
There's a huge difference between a girl who needs a bunch of lube just to get inside and the girl who soaks your sheets and rattles the windows with her screams of pleasure.
Like anything else, sex is a combination of skills. Would you rather save a few dollars and limit yourself to women who have no skills, or spend your time with women who earn every peso?
MongerHunger
02-25-22, 09:05
Once a girl gets "known" among the gringo hoard, her price goes up and her service generally gets worse. If a chica quotes a ridiculous price, it's best to put them on ignore and find one who hasn't been on the gringo circuit as long.I avoid chicas that are well known to gringos and quotes in dollars or euros. My taste is for the local scene and chicas with low or no gringo mileage.
RedMan0505
02-25-22, 09:55
Because having a pussy and fucking someone requires no special skills. Half of the planet actually has one. Even the most beautiful model ever has to learn certain skills for their craft and do not start off making top money. All a hooker has to do is open her legs. Evidently a young, pretty chick with nothing else going for herself besides being able to open her legs really amazes some guys.Thank You.
In broad strokes, the standard theory is pretty straightforward. When a lot of people can do the same job (working girls come a dime a dozen) , the wage for that job is pushed down (because more people can supply their labor). When it takes special skills or education to do a job, wages are pushed up, because fewer people can supply their labor. On the demand side, employers are willing to pay more for an employee that can make them more money.
PunkedLife
02-25-22, 11:09
You have to take advantage of these situations if you're young because you won't be able to bang all these hotties all week when you're 50 or 60.This is going to be Legend. Wait for it.
Because having a pussy and fucking someone requires no special skills. Half of the planet actually has one. Even the most beautiful model ever has to learn certain skills for their craft and do not start off making top money. All a hooker has to do is open her legs. Evidently a young, pretty chick with nothing else going for herself besides being able to open her legs really amazes some guys.Who said anything about skills. I'm talking about the amount of time and money a girl has to put into herself. Go shave your legs and wax your box every few days or week. Put on makeup every night. It cost a lot of money. You expect them to do all that to look good for 2 dollars an hour. Most of us wouldn't last a month as a woman.
I remember a newbie at Help asked me if You can get a girl out of Help for 50 reals. I laughed. The cover charge was I think 30 reals back then. Yea a girl will pay 30 reals to get in, get all dressed up, do her hair and dress nice for 20 reals profit. The funny part was there was a girl standing next to us who spoke English and understood us. She laughed too and said the same thing I said. She told him he was in the wrong place. You are paying for their youth and beauty which is short lived. Not paying for roofing skills.
PunkedLife
02-25-22, 11:49
Does anyone have any recommendations on any nude maid service? Yes, I am sure I can find a ton of chicas who can do this but that would require me to actively vet some of these girls because 99 percent of them can't be trusted not to steal something. Just an idea I had come up with and was wondering if anyone has done this. Any websites that actively advertise these types of services. I am sure I am not the only one who has considered something like this. I will be there for 2 weeks and my Airbnb won't have room service like I am used to from Poblado-type accommodations. PM is welcome too.
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