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This may help. All the people posting here are still alive. Most have visited Colombia more than once, some live here. 100% of us were new to the country at the time of our first visit. If that is not reassuring or encouraging enough it may be best to stay home.
So the taxi thing / Uber thing has me a little scared to go now. Any more insights on how to navigate Columbia safely that would give a noobie some peace of mind here?
BoarderDude301
06-20-22, 17:31
Anyone been to San Peter apartments lately. I stayed there twice 2 years ago and it was definitely chica friendly and had an on-site bar. Now seeing Airbnb posts saying "Absolutely no Sex Tourism". And some other very strict rules. Anybody have any intel?
So the taxi thing / Uber thing has me a little scared to go now. Any more insights on how to navigate Columbia safely that would give a noobie some peace of mind here?As noted in the post, just as you should in any area, you should generally know areas of Medellin considered dangerous to non-locals. For a newbie, try Poblado and / or Laureles. A cabbie will tell you to put your phone down / out of sight. Or if you're that concerned about your safety with one post on this board, maybe don't go.
I made a free Seeking account on Friday, and just checked today and saw 300+ interests with 100+ favorited me, but I can't message any of those because I don't have a paid membership. Is this site filled with catfish or is it actually mostly legit? If it's actually legit, maybe I'll consider buying a membership to talk to some of them.When you create an account on any "dating" website you will almost immediately begin getting hits from women on that site. Mostly these are from fake accounts maintained by each "dating" website in order to convince you to pay for a subscription.
It's simple. Every similar website from Match to Seeking makes money by convincing men to pay for a subscription. If the only hits you receive in the first few weeks are from a couple of 50+ women you're probably not going to spend $100 or more to talk to them. But, if it appears that dozens, or hundreds of women are dying to meet you, cha-ching.
If you spend the money you can probably find some women on Seeking. You'll probably spend at least double what you would spend elsewhere in order to have sex with them and not all will be interested in sex until they are certain you're a good investment.
Seeking is set up for women seeking some type of arranged support, however some women use it for simple prostitution because they can usually get paid more.
If you expect to travel frequently to Medellin, or you wish to find a woman who will happily let you pay her monthly bills, Seeking might be perfect for you. If you're just making a first trip and hoping to get laid, there are many other options which are cheaper, easier and more reliable.
.... Is this site filled with catfish or is it actually mostly legit? If it's actually legit, maybe I'll consider buying a membership to talk to some of them...Some of both, Colombia is one of the best places that I have tried to find a seeking date. I think it is evolving into more a P4P/PPM platform then a few years ago.
The interesting thing is that I just looked after reading your post and I found several FB girls. One the the hottest FB Bello girls that I have sessioned with is on Seeking. LOL. And I saw more than one FB girls on it. These are also more classy ones. So there are some overlaps between FB, IG, Seeking. Please don't generalize what I said here. This is only an observation for about less than 10 minutes and I am not a heavy FB monger compared to others that I know.
I guess I overpaid the FB girl. I should have tried to get her on Seeking for a whole day for the going amount. I am kicking myself right now. LOL.
Today's Visa's exchange rate is $3912 COP to the USD.
It will be interesting to see which direction the exchange rate heads this week after the election, I suspect it won't move much, but hopefully am wrong, and if goes up tp 4,200 COP, I'm going to hit the ATM's.
InsolentSpike
06-20-22, 19:12
Good plan.Thanks Knowledge.
Petro has already brought some noticeable changes in. Today in the casas, sessions with venezuelanas attract a 30% import duty, due to the new friendly relations between the neighbours. Any customer that exceeds the new worker-friendly 5 minute limit on a session w a chica will be subject to a 20% withholding tax. And all girls are required to install a new track and trace device for bareback clients in case the get pregnant and need to pursue for maintenance.
I fear the worst under this new socialist junta.
Thanks!
I don't do much. I usually just hit up 3-4 Botero girls a day and walk around el centro during each pop. Then I just go back to the Airbnb right when it gets dark and call it a day.This is the move, I love el centro.
4100 or higher and I'm at the ATMs. I loaded up a few weeks ago but there is always room for more when the rate flirts with a 52 week high.
Today's Visa's exchange rate is $3912 COP to the USD.
It will be interesting to see which direction the exchange rate heads this week after the election, I suspect it won't move much, but hopefully am wrong, and if goes up tp 4,200 COP, I'm going to hit the ATM's.
Robberies happen in Poblado / Laureles / Sabaneta / Envigado. The odds are somewhat in our favor to avoid them in those gringo gulches because we aren't as unique a target as in the rest of Medellin. The extreme risk of middle of the night forays into the barrios including Centro is well documented. Overall, be aware of surroundings and people and you are more likely than not to have a safe and enjoyable time.
As noted in the post, just as you should in any area, you should generally know areas of Medellin considered dangerous to non-locals. For a newbie, try Poblado and / or Laureles. A cabbie will tell you to put your phone down / out of sight. Or if you're that concerned about your safety with one post on this board, maybe don't go.
I think that place's policy vary by unit and unit owner. Anytime I've passed the place I notice punters and girls in the immediate area. That said, I don't recommend renting a unit that states what you described in its renter's policy.
Anyone been to San Peter apartments lately. I stayed there twice 2 years ago and it was definitely chica friendly and had an on-site bar. Now seeing Airbnb posts saying "Absolutely no Sex Tourism". And some other very strict rules. Anybody have any intel?
Sukhanna1983
06-20-22, 21:15
Nah, the guys here do not get the higher end seeking girls. The best hotels in Medellin are in the $150 to $300 a night range and if you are entertaining the higher end girls, you should go to a hotel like that. My first seeking encounters in Bogota were in the Hotel Ibis and it was night and day being there compared to the Marriott. Ibis was a shoe box like a Motel 6, and the women would get nervous that you had no money and it would be like "how much" all the time. Ibis is a great place though if you just want to bang Santa Fe hookers.
With the Marriott, the women and I would hit the pool, gym, buffets, and watch Netflix. The women wanted to stay because it was so nice, and none of them ever asked "how much". Hotel quality does not matter for hookers though.I have tons of points I can use. Is Marriott girl friendly? Are they okay bringing in girls?
InsolentSpike
06-20-22, 21:53
This is the move, I love el centro.Thanks man!
I loved it too. Saw about 5 girls I missed out on last time and have like another 5 I want to repeat with LOL.
Anyone been to San Peter apartments lately. I stayed there twice 2 years ago and it was definitely chica friendly and had an on-site bar. Now seeing Airbnb posts saying "Absolutely no Sex Tourism". And some other very strict rules. Anybody have any intel?I concur with your comment about Airbnb places starting to say "No sex tourism". What I do is I book for 2 and I do keep a low profile, no loud music, spekaing the language helps alot and I do become friends with the security guards at the front desks, if the place that I get has them. This works wonders and ensures you don't get any troubles.
In all my Airbnb stays, I've been able to get in girls without any troubles, but I do recommend skipping those that do mention no sex tourism.
JackTaggart
06-20-22, 23:24
When you create an account on any "dating" website you will almost immediately begin getting hits from women on that site. Mostly these are from fake accounts maintained by each "dating" website in order to convince you to pay for a subscription.
It's simple. Every similar website from Match to Seeking makes money by convincing men to pay for a subscription. If the only hits you receive in the first few weeks are from a couple of 50+ women you're probably not going to spend $100 or more to talk to them. But, if it appears that dozens, or hundreds of women are dying to meet you, cha-ching.
If you spend the money you can probably find some women on Seeking. You'll probably spend at least double what you would spend elsewhere in order to have sex with them and not all will be interested in sex until they are certain you're a good investment.
Seeking is set up for women seeking some type of arranged support, however some women use it for simple prostitution because they can usually get paid more.
If you expect to travel frequently to Medellin, or you wish to find a woman who will happily let you pay her monthly bills, Seeking might be perfect for you. If you're just making a first trip and hoping to get laid, there are many other options which are cheaper, easier and more reliable.This might be true for many, but I am having great luck with overnights, unlimited pops, bareback, and cip with a chill girl that I trust. This is in Bogota though. I have also met a good platonic friend that's wants 0 from me and we hangout. Also some good no clock watching more occasional encounters. I don't like the instagram model types and prefer girl next door spinners that speak english and provide GFE. I am not that handsome, average build, and late 30's. I speak no Spanish. Cost 200 k for 3 ish hours to 600 k for 24 hours. Or 0. I have 5 or 6 that I have had to slow roll.
I agree if you are there for a short stay it might not be worth it, but if it were 2+ weeks and you like the type of situation I do, it could be worth it. Yes I spend more than a quick 20 minute stay, but minute for minute or pop for pop I think my cost averages down. Of course there is no right or wrong and everyone is looking for something different.
I'm sometimes guilty of failing to report back on my experiences after getting so much valuable info from the research of those who have gone before me. I don't have much new to add but here are a few corrections and additions that someone might want to make to the Medellíand Monger Map & Chica List:
1) IDK if I just heard wrong but the rate I was quoted for a 30 minute session at the Jade Spa MP in Poblado was an absurd 160 k COP (WTF! Needless to say, I didn't take them up on it.
2) Went by Zandaly MP on Sunday afternoon (before 4 pm) and found it closed, but it was reopened the following morning, so hours need to be corrected on the list.
3) I found a small MP that isn't on the map or list around the corner from Zandaly on Cra 57 a. Sorry, I don't have the exact address (#46-35 I think) but the entrance is directly in front of a concrete bench. I also didn't get the rates and hours (I know, I know, lousy scouting). But it had 3 chicas on a Sunday (2 decent, 1 ugly) with a hotter one arriving just as we were leaving. I didn't partake but my buddy did and he described it as the best fuck of his life (but maybe he doesn't get around enough).
4) Also stopped at New Life and had a pretty decent session though definitely not the best of my life. Like a previous poster reported, I also got the request for a 50 k tip for BBBJ (WTF?) on top of the 55 k fee for CBJ & CFS, which I paid bcuz a) it was my 1st fuck in Medellin after landing and I was horny b) $30 still seemed like a bargain from my recently arrived perspective and c) I was caught off-guard because I hadn't seen that previous post and didn't know any better.
5) After I got that 1st nut out of the way. I went to Plaza Botero and picked up a gorgeous young spinner streetwalker (though most of the SW's around are definitely not so gorgeous). Took her to a nearby ST hotel. 2 k for the room & rubber, 50 k for the girl, unrushed sloppy BBBJ & multi-position FS that if it wasn't the best fuck of my life was close to it. Definitely not the "fucking a motionless rubber doll just fucked by several others" experience described by some others re: El Centro SW's. I know many guys here prefer the Lleras girls or the GFE experience they can get from girls found elsewhere, but IMHO it's hard to beat the value of the El Centro SW if you find the right one.
6) I also visited Nuevo Milenio which is not on the map but should be and has been described by previous posters. It is located near where Casa Cuba (which I couldn't find) is marked and unlike other casitas is very clearly marked with a large sign. Just walk through the parking lot entrance and go up the stairs on the left. Again, I failed to record the price (50 k / hh I think) about a dozen rooms, exact number of chicas will vary depending on when you go. I usually go for spinners, which they didn't have when I went there but went anyway with a somewhat thicker but attractive gal with really nice large natural breasts and had a really great time (okay, not maybe not the best of my life but certainly better than my average).
7) Also visited Barra Ejecutiva, Nueva Avenida & Conejitas in El Centro after dark. Perhaps I'm crazy but we didn't have any problem walking between them or feel insecure (at least in the early evening 9-midnight). Not so sure how advisable that would be in the wee hours. I wouldn't advise going for any longer walks down empty streets at those hours though. Of those 3 I liked Nueva Avenida the best (also more hustle for tips at the other places). Bar staff will really look out for you at all of those places. Chica prices at Nueva Avenida varied. My buddies got chicas for 50 k and 60 k respectively. One was quite pleased with the service he got, the other not so much. I went back the next night with another amigo but got quoted 100 k (with BBBJ not available for any tip) but she was a gorgeous spinner so I went for it any way and was quite pleased.
8) Not a correction for the map or list or anything, but to round out my experiences I also tried a prepago from mileroticos at her apartment near the stadium. She had just left for lunch when I got there for my appointment but there were at least 6-8 other chicas there, none to my liking. I began to worry what my pick would turn out to look like but when she finally arrived (after keeping me waiting 30 minutes) I was pleased to see she matched the pretty girl in her ad pics. 90 k / HR including anal. CBJ but agreed to BBBJ for a 40 k tip so 130 k total for the hour with anal. NOT 2 pops. She counted vage then anal as 2 fucks. Not the way I figured it but I made the whole thing last 45 minutes with a little massage thrown in and walked away reasonably happy.
9) Finally, I lined up a LOT of names (agreeing to meet) through Facebook before I even left for Colombia which as incredibly easy to do. I'm not sure how they would have turned out since this was just a relatively quick trip and I stayed pretty busy with everything else. However I could see how that would be a very viable route to go for guys who are down for longer visits or are setting up relationships for repeat visits and future trips. A lot of the ones who'll agree to meet might be the very same ones you'll find in Lleras Park but I got the sense that at least some are semi-pros from whom you might get more of a GFE experience.
...but IMHO it's hard to beat the value of the El Centro SW if you find the right one...Thanks for the nice, comprehensive report. Regarding the quote above, isn't that a universal truth, which applies everywhere?
TomRobbins
06-21-22, 00:21
I have been lurking the Medellin section for a while now and am planning a trip in the next 3 months. I speak fluent Spanish and plan on being a centro rat but as Osteo says, it's better not to have plans in Medellin so I'll listen to the man. I was wondering if these websites to find prepagos are reliable / girls are real such as pasionprepago or photoprepago.
Thank you so much to those who have contributed and I look forward to touching down in the next few months.
Thanks Knowledge.Please, use private messaging for these type of message exchange. Thanks.
Thanks for the report.
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4) Also stopped at New Life and had a pretty decent session though definitely not the best of my life. Like a previous poster reported, I also got the request for a 50 k tip for BBBJ (WTF?) on top of the 55 k fee for CBJ & CFS, which I paid bcuz a) ...This is not new. It was like this before pandemic.
...Casa Cuba (which I couldn't find)...Search for the seafood place Doris Bill on google map. It is on the ground floor of a yellow building. Cuba is located on the second floor. You turn left to go upstairs immediately after you enter the door way to the parking lot. But I think it is the one you went based on your description.
Long time admirer, second time visitor to this beautiful city. A World traveler (have been to most LatAm countries over the years).
I have a quick question: since I am not staying for long, paying premium is OK with me, but I don't want dar papaya.
I've read in some review that in order to get any attention from the ladies in either of the club (see the title), one has to get a table, I. E. Pay for the bottle service. That is pretty damn expensive, and I don't expect to down a bottle even with some help.
Is it true that if you don't get a table in either of this establishments, you get no action?In either place all you need to do is place a stack of 100's US in the hand of the manager, at least 10. After that is confirmed, then bend over, grab your ankles and grit your teeth, and at that point you'll get exactly what you want.
Anyone been to San Peter apartments lately. I stayed there twice 2 years ago and it was definitely chica friendly and had an on-site bar. Now seeing Airbnb posts saying "Absolutely no Sex Tourism". And some other very strict rules. Anybody have any intel?Airbnb units in San Peter with those rules? That would be new I think.
I don't have a milk fetish that I know of, but when a girl with this good of a body shows up 1 1/2 months after delivery looking like she did, I will take advantage of the situation. Her pussy was in unbelievably good and tight shape and I continue to be amazed at Colombiana and Venezuelana pussy resiliency.
Of course, I asked for a sample. Super delicious sweet and thick, I don't know why I was surprised how warm the milk was considering it was being made at 37 degrees Celsius but I am conditioned to expecting my milk to taste ice cold.
This was her first fuck since she had her baby and it was a good feeling getting her back in shape for the game.Good job, mate. Nice jugs and fresh milk.
Petro has already brought some noticeable changes in. Today in the casas, sessions with venezuelanas attract a 30% import duty, due to the new friendly relations between the neighbours. Any customer that exceeds the new worker-friendly 5 minute limit on a session w a chica will be subject to a 20% withholding tax. And all girls are required to install a new track and trace device for bareback clients in case the get pregnant and need to pursue for maintenance.Same thing at the Love Motels, if you show up with a Venezuelan, you get hit with a 30% surcharge on the room rate.
LoveItHere69
06-21-22, 04:15
8) Not a correction for the map or list or anything, but to round out my experiences I also tried a prepago from mileroticos at her apartment near the stadium. She had just left for lunch when I got there for my appointment.Many times the girl waits until you arrive. The girls who are there verify you are there and then she leaves her apartment and takes a taxi to meet with you. Also, the hot one gets worn out and everyone is hoping you trade down to a lesser girl because you are horny and will return another time for the original girl. I got tired of that real quick. Last time I told the girls I did not want to switch girls and to cancel my original girl. They all got nervous about that because the girl coming who was supposed to be there was on the hook for the taxi ride with no customer. She said she was there when I was 10 minutes from our appointed time. But she lied. I waited 30 minutes and then was too pissed off to sex her or any other girls there so left.
JonnyPokerStar
06-21-22, 04:44
After at least a few hundred metro trips, including 1 which was literally as crowded as it possibly could be, I'm comfortable about the safety. On many occasions people have alerted me of potential security issues; unzipped backpack, phone sticking out of pocket, even untied shoes. One morning I fainted on the Metro. Everyone nearby helped me back to me feet and someone ran to get help when the train reached the station. Nothing was taken and people showed genuine concern for my well-being.
Certainly, if you make it easy, there is always a risk someone will pick your pocket, but when it comes to risk, that one is pretty low on the list.The metro is the safest cleanest place in the city.
This is the move, I love el centro.There is some kind of energy at Ground Zero I have never felt before, anywhere else in the world. Obviously that's a personal interpretation that is virtually meaningless unless someone else feels it, too. Sure, it can be gritty and even dangerous, but I find the place to be clean and I meet people there, obviously meaning the chicas, who are filled with joy. Probably for newbies I would say daylight hours only but with street smarts El Centro is navigable 24/7.
Maybe because sex workers have been plying their trade there for generations, hundreds of years, at the Church at Ground Zero, there is some kind of mystical karma magic in the air, I don't know what it is but I feel it. I met a new chica there today, the great ones always seem to end up Vennies, I can't help it. Honest, intelligent, warm, she looked like a prom queen from high school and we will be looking for each other again. And then fuck, who should I run into yet again on my walk back to my hotel but Sugar Baby with her sister who I fucked earlier that morning. She practically dragged me by my ear back to my room at The Nutti. Fotos are verbotten by her, but I overheard two young buffed Colombian studs comment, "Omigod" when she walked past them on our way back to my room. I thought I would be seeing her maybe two times a month and we have sessioned 3 out of the past 4 days. She also informed me that she would be arriving back at my hotel tomorrow with a friend who I supposedly fucked before but when she put her on the video call I did not recognize but I definitely would fuck her. After a slow start, this turned out to be another great day in Medellin.
This might be true for many, but I am having great luck with overnights, unlimited pops, bareback, and cip with a chill girl that I trust. This is in Bogota though. I have also met a good platonic friend that's wants 0 from me and we hangout. Also some good no clock watching more occasional encounters. I don't like the instagram model types and prefer girl next door spinners that speak english and provide GFE. I am not that handsome, average build, and late 30's. I speak no Spanish. Cost 200 k for 3 ish hours to 600 k for 24 hours. Or 0. I have 5 or 6 that I have had to slow roll.
I agree if you are there for a short stay it might not be worth it, but if it were 2+ weeks and you like the type of situation I do, it could be worth it. Yes I spend more than a quick 20 minute stay, but minute for minute or pop for pop I think my cost averages down. Of course there is no right or wrong and everyone is looking for something different.Channeling Star Wars, jeje, hope you don't mind.
Elvis 2008
06-21-22, 11:25
I have tons of points I can use. Is Marriott girl friendly? Are they okay bringing in girls?Marriott in Bogota and Cartagena are girl friendly but the one in Medellin is not.
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FrankBills007
06-21-22, 12:54
I'm sometimes guilty of failing to report back on my experiences after getting so much valuable info from the research of those who have gone before me. I don't have much new to add but here are a few corrections and additions that someone might want to make to the Medelland Monger Map & Chica List:
1) IDK if I just heard wrong but the rate I was quoted for a 30 minute session at the Jade Spa MP in Poblado was an absurd 160 k COP (WTF! Needless to say, I didn't take them up on it.
2) Went by Zandaly MP on Sunday afternoon (before 4 pm) and found it closed, but it was reopened the following morning, so hours need to be corrected on the list.
3) I found a small MP that isn't on the map or list around the corner from Zandaly on Cra 57 a. Sorry, I don't have the exact address (#46-35 I think) but the entrance is directly in front of a concrete bench. I also didn't get the rates and hours (I know, I know, lousy scouting). But it had 3 chicas on a Sunday (2 decent, 1 ugly) with a hotter one arriving just as we were leaving. I didn't partake but my buddy did and he described it as the best fuck of his life (but maybe he doesn't get around enough).
4) Also stopped at New Life and had a pretty decent session though definitely not the best of my life. Like a previous poster reported, I also got the request for a 50 k tip for BBBJ (WTF?) on top of the 55 k fee for CBJ & CFS, which I paid bcuz a) it was my 1st fuck in Medellin after landing and I was horny b) $30 still seemed like a bargain from my recently arrived perspective and c) I was caught off-guard because I hadn't seen that previous post and didn't know any better.Great post! Would love to meet up when I am there and just follow you around hahahahha. I'll buy the drinks.
There is some kind of energy at Ground Zero I have never felt before, anywhere else in the world.
there is some kind of mystical karma magic in the air,.I wouldn't go as far as you, but I agree w your sentiements. The people are down to earth, humble, simple (in the nice meaning of the word), and fun loving. Its like thailand actually, for me at least.
At night it does turn in to scene from zombie apocalypse though.
There is some kind of energy at Ground Zero I have never felt before, anywhere else in the world. Maybe because sex workers have been plying their trade there for generations, hundreds of years, at the Church at Ground Zero, there is some kind of mystical karma magic in the air, I don't know what it is but I feel it. .Well for some, it might sound like your on something, and in a daze, but all kidding aside, I enjoyed Centro much more several years ago before the arrival of the Venezuelans or the hordes of mongers that have shown up on it's shores.
I remember when a gringo sighting was a rarity, and a total novelty to the girls, but nowadays a totally different landscape.
And don't get me wrong, I still ply the streets, and have good and new experiences, but it's just not the same as before.
Good job, mate. Nice jugs and fresh milk.I fell sorry for the little baby, he missed his afternoon feeding because his Mommy was sucked dry. LOL.
The metro is the safest cleanest place in the city.The Metro is great. But don't be afraid to also try the buses. It's a long walk down from the Parque Lleras / Parque Poblado area to the Poblado Metro station (LOL, and an even longer walk back up). Sure it can be done in 10-15 minutes or so (or you can wait for a bus or take a taxi back up the hill) but there's a much easier and direct way to get to El Centro.
Buses pickup at a stop just a few meters north of Parque Poblado on Cra 43a (that's the main drag by the park). The bus to look for is #135 (if you forget the #, there are maps at that bus stop showing the routes). It comes by every few minutes and takes <20 minutes to get to El Centro and the fare is just 2550 COP (vs 12-14k COP for a taxi which isn't much faster, or adventurous). It's a straight shot with few stops (or at least none very long) but it makes a little loop near San Antonio and can get caught up in traffic before getting to Berrios so I usually just get off at San Antonio and walk the last few blocks.
Coming back from El Centro is a lot more confusing (unless you have the Moovit app on your phone), so you might prefer to just take the Metro (and the walk back up the hill, ugh) but I never shy away from a challenge. You might need to ask nearby bystanders exactly which bus stop you need (and, LOL, get a dozen different incorrect answers). Beyond that basically your choice is to look for that #135 bus (#130 or #130a also work) where you got off at Parque Berrios (but a lot of other buses also stop there possibly making that option too confusing) or, what I prefer, walk 2 blocks east to the main drag (Cra 43a) and catch any of those buses where they're heading in the right direction (south).
As you can tell, I like to provide complete detail (hence my handle) and probably make this sound more confusing than it's worth, but it's really not all that hard and I feel it's always better to have too much info than too little. Taking local buses is not about saving money (though there's that too). They're about experiencing a place like a native, thus adding to the adventure.
Taking local buses is not about saving money (though there's that too). They're about experiencing a place like a native, thus adding to the adventure.'Appreciate it.
Coming back from El Centro is a lot more confusing (unless you have the Moovit app on your phone), so you might prefer to just take the Metro (and the walk back up the hill, ugh) but I never shy away from a challenge. If you take the Metro, you can then take the Metro bus (the green one) up Calle 10 to Provenza or anyplace in between. It also goes further than Provenza, but I haven't checked the route. I think if you use the Metro card for the bus immediately after using the Metro train, the bus is free.
As for the Moovit app, I have found it to be of limited value. It will show the route between two points, but it's bus schedule is very unreliable. I have waited 30 minutes for a bus that is shows runs every 10 minutes.
I haven't really seen this talked about, but what attire do you guys usually use for going out (e. G, to the club, restaurants, etc)?
I'm packing slightly more formally than I do on other (non-monger) trips where I frequently traveled in gym clothing.
The Metro is great. But don't be afraid to also try the buses. It's a long walk down from the Parque Lleras / Parque Poblado area to the Poblado Metro station (LOL, and an even longer walk back up). Sure it can be done in 10-15 minutes or so (or you can wait for a bus or take a taxi back up the hill) but there's a much easier and direct way to get to El Centro.
Buses pickup at a stop just a few meters north of Parque Poblado on Cra 43a (that's the main drag by the park). The bus to look for is #135 (if you forget the #, there are maps at that bus stop showing the routes). It comes by every few minutes and takes <20 minutes to get to El Centro and the fare is just 2550 COP (vs 12-14k COP for a taxi which isn't much faster, or adventurous). It's a straight shot with few stops (or at least none very long) but it makes a little loop near San Antonio and can get caught up in traffic before getting to Berrios so I usually just get off at San Antonio and walk the last few blocks.
Coming back from El Centro is a lot more confusing (unless you have the Moovit app on your phone), so you might prefer to just take the Metro (and the walk back up the hill, ugh) but I never shy away from a challenge. You might need to ask nearby bystanders exactly which bus stop you need (and, LOL, get a dozen different incorrect answers). Beyond that basically your choice is to look for that #135 bus (#130 or #130a also work) where you got off at Parque Berrios (but a lot of other buses also stop there possibly making that option too confusing) or, what I prefer, walk 2 blocks east to the main drag (Cra 43a) and catch any of those buses where they're heading in the right direction (south).
As you can tell, I like to provide complete detail (hence my handle) and probably make this sound more confusing than it's worth, but it's really not all that hard and I feel it's always better to have too much info than too little. Taking local buses is not about saving money (though there's that too). They're about experiencing a place like a native, thus adding to the adventure.When I was living at the south end of Poblado, I often took the bus to Parque Poblado, or any spot in between. Several times I took the bus to El Centro. There are also the L1 and L2 bus lines which connect with the Metro at Industriales, convenient for going to Belen, and the Migracion office.
One nice thing about the busses, they'll stop anywhere to pick you up, if you flag them down and they'll stop anywhere to let you off. They're also a good option to get rid of all the coins you end up with.
If you take the Metro, you can then take the Metro bus (the green one) up Calle 10 to Provenza or anyplace in between. It also goes further than Provenza, but I haven't checked the route. I think if you use the Metro card for the bus immediately after using the Metro train, the bus is free.
As for the Moovit app, I have found it to be of limited value. It will show the route between two points, but it's bus schedule is very unreliable. I have waited 30 minutes for a bus that is shows runs every 10 minutes.There's a bus schedule? I honestly thought it was more of a free for all. I've seen 3 busses from the same company, on the same route, racing each other to the next stop, even when 1 bus was completely full and the others were practically empty.
If you take the Metro, you can then take the Metro bus (the green one) up Calle 10 to Provenza or anyplace in between. It also goes further than Provenza, but I haven't checked the route. I think if you use the Metro card for the bus immediately after using the Metro train, the bus is free. The Metro card which is called a Civica only entitles you to ride the bus lines directly connected to the Metro Stations and not the City buses. Entrance to the Metro connected bus stations such as at the Industriales station have a turn-style entrance that reads the Civica card. If you ride the Metro and then the bus or vice versa it's included at no additional charge.
For those wanting to travel from Centro to Poblado, and avoid using the Metro, along with huffing and puffing up Calle 10, there is a bus within a block of Hotel Nutibarra that goes to Parque Poblado a few blocks down the hill from Parque Llears. I've taken it at times when the Metro is shut down and it goes along Avenida Oriental which turns into Avenue Poblado when it leaves Centro.
If you take the Metro, you can then take the Metro bus (the green one) up Calle 10 to Provenza or anyplace in between. It also goes further than Provenza, but I haven't checked the route. I think if you use the Metro card for the bus immediately after using the Metro train, the bus is free.
As for the Moovit app, I have found it to be of limited value. It will show the route between two points, but it's bus schedule is very unreliable. I have waited 30 minutes for a bus that is shows runs every 10 minutes.Yes, you can take the bus up from the Metro station. In fact, when I did it, it even let out right in front of where I was staying at the Hotel Dix. I've also heard that it can be free with a Civica Card if you take it right after taking the Metro (though I'm not quite sure how that works as my card was empty when I did it and I just paid in coins). The drawback to that though is that it's an extra connection, which means an extra wait between the rail and the bus (the last time I did it, I ended up waiting 15-20 minutes and could just as well walked), plus it's not as direct. With the bus direct to/from El Centro, you only have to wait once and it takes you direct to the top of the hill at Parque Poblado with no need to change transport anywhere and I never had to wait more than 5-10 minutes for a bus plying the Cra 43a route.
As for the limitations of the Moovit app, yes I hear you. It's far from perfect though I still found it somewhat useful and FAR better than what's available for bus routes and schedules that you can find for buses in most of Central and South America, which in most areas is virtually non-existent (BTW, why do the few Latin American bus company websites that do exist typically just show pictures of their buses with no route, fare or schedule info?)
Another transportation app I used in Medelln was Cabify and that I found to be even less useful than Moovit. The best that can be said for that app is that you can charge taxi rides to your credit card, which can be very useful for when you first arrive at the airport and don't yet have local currency (though the 2 ATM's right before the airport exit can take care of that) and also the fare to or from the airport comes out a few dollars cheaper than regular taxis. However, everywhere else I tried Cabify the fare came out more (sometimes much more) than a regular taxi, plus it involved waiting a few minutes for it to arrive vs. just jumping in the nearest available cab.
I also tried the Metro app and if you thought Moovit was a pain to deal with then you shouldn't even bother with the Metro app.
Any nice high-end swinger clubs in MDE with decent, younger crowd? Want to give it a try with a chica.
Any nice high-end swinger clubs in MDE with decent, younger crowd? Want to give it a try with a chica.I don't know about high-end, but there are a few. From my experience in the US, the best you can hope for in a younger crowd is maybe an average age in the 30's. Colombia is more focused on physical beauty, so you probably won't find a club where everyone else is old, fat, flabby and ugly.
I'm going on the assumption that you don't regularly visit swinger clubs. If I'm wrong maybe this will be useful for others.
1. Be certain that you and whoever you take can handle it. I've seen and even been involved in some difficult situations caused by both people not being on the same page. In one case, the girl I came with left me there. Fortunately, I had other people I knew to get a ride back. If you're going, hoping to get into a good 3 some, remember that the other woman probably came with another man and he's going to participate as much or more than you. Either you, or the girl you take might not be comfortable with that.
2. Most clubs have nights when single men are allowed in. Colombian clubs have prepagos working to take up the slack, but it's still likely to be a sausage fest and you'll probably draw a crowd of men everywhere you go. I've seen a few women have panic attacks over all the men trying to get closer and get a feel.
3. In the US the standard rule is "no means no." If you ask someone else to join you, if they aren't interested, move on. Also touching requires prior permission. In practice it's not absolute, especially with women touching first, but it's always best to ask. I don't know how well that rule is followed in Colombia. It's possible some of the men will get touchy with your girl and she might not be okay with it.
4. Have a plan. It's possible either you or your girl will want to leave shortly after arrival. Agree beforehand how you'll deal with it. My suggestion is to agree to stay for a specific time period. Take your time, watch others and don't push things faster than both are ready for.
Well for some, it might sound like your on something, and in a daze, but all kidding aside, I enjoyed Centro much more several years ago before the arrival of the Venezuelans or the hordes of mongers that have shown up on it's shores.
I remember when a gringo sighting was a rarity, and a total novelty to the girls, but nowadays a totally different landscape.
And don't get me wrong, I still ply the streets, and have good and new experiences, but it's just not the same as before.I believe we are writing about the same thing. The vibe, the energy, the carma, the milieu, it changes over time and we all instinctually resist change when we are comfortable. I think that might be one of my many problems. I am uncomfortable being comfortable, jajaajajaaa. Asti Out.
P.S. Reality is for people who can't handle their drugs, jajajaja.
I fell sorry for the little baby, he missed his afternoon feeding because his Mommy was sucked dry. LOL.And I had to work harder as a result, jajajaja.
Anyone been to San Peter apartments lately. I stayed there twice 2 years ago and it was definitely chica friendly and had an on-site bar. Now seeing Airbnb posts saying "Absolutely no Sex Tourism". And some other very strict rules. Anybody have any intel?The more signs there are warning against sex tourism, the better that location is for taking chicas, jajajajaa. Seriously, my favorite short time love motel over by Parque Bolivar had more warnings and signs that any hotel I went to. However, it did eventually get shut down and bricked closed.
When you create an account on any "dating" website you will almost immediately begin getting hits from women on that site. Mostly these are from fake accounts maintained by each "dating" website in order to convince you to pay for a subscription.
It's simple. Every similar website from Match to Seeking makes money by convincing men to pay for a subscription. If the only hits you receive in the first few weeks are from a couple of 50+ women you're probably not going to spend $100 or more to talk to them. But, if it appears that dozens, or hundreds of women are dying to meet you, cha-ching.
If you spend the money you can probably find some women on Seeking. You'll probably spend at least double what you would spend elsewhere in order to have sex with them and not all will be interested in sex until they are certain you're a good investment.
Seeking is set up for women seeking some type of arranged support, however some women use it for simple prostitution because they can usually get paid more.
If you expect to travel frequently to Medellin, or you wish to find a woman who will happily let you pay her monthly bills, Seeking might be perfect for you. If you're just making a first trip and hoping to get laid, there are many other options which are cheaper, easier and more reliable.Ignore any that are not from Colombia, you are going to get a lot Venezuelans either desperate or scammer, check the last location, if it not Colombia tread with care. 80% of the interests and Messages are filtered applying these rules, I found I get a 50% conversion rate to all multi night PPM arrangements from Genuine girls that I initiated on Seeking.
FlAdventurer
06-22-22, 00:08
Marriott in Bogota and Cartagena are girl friendly but the one in Medellin is not.At check in at the Medellin Marriott, the registration you sign has a paragraph that clearly states that there is a $200 charge for bringing girls to your room, even if you are single and make your registration for 2.
I spoke at length with management and he acknowledged that they do not want girls there.
I since have stayed at the San Fernando Plaza and have been fine there as long as I register for 2. Laureles just seems to be much more relaxed and a better overall experience.
I have booked a stay at the Marriott (one of their concepts, I forget) in Cartagena and will see how that goes.
I haven't really seen this talked about, but what attire do you guys usually use for going out (e. G, to the club, restaurants, etc)?
I'm packing slightly more formally than I do on other (non-monger) trips where I frequently traveled in gym clothing.Usually jeans, a nice pair of sneakers and either a nice t-shirt or occasionally a polo. I'll also usually bring a light jacket or hoodie in case of rain, although I'll skip the jacket for strip clubs, since I'm usually not going to be hopping from club to club.
By nice t-shirt I usually mean one of the dry wick types. They're comfortable and dressy enough for anyplace I've been in Medellin.
The more signs there are warning against sex tourism, the better that location is for taking chicas, jajajajaa. Seriously, my favorite short time love motel over by Parque Bolivar had more warnings and signs that any hotel I went to. However, it did eventually get shut down and bricked closed.I've seen the error in that approach.
A boutique hotel I spent a few days in over Christmas 2017, while my roommate's entire family was visiting from Bogota, had signs in the lobby and pictures of the signs on Booking and other hotel sites. You couldn't check in without seeing the signs and "No guests or visitors" was posted in the rules. I had to wait 10 minutes to talk to reception while a gringo begged and pleaded to get them to allow his obvious working girl visitor come in. He didn't succeed.
The upscale jacuzzi loft I rented last month only stated that guests under 18 weren't allowed. The place was obviously set up for fucking. After I booked, the confirmation email stated "no prostitution", but I figured, provided a bit of discretion was used, it wouldn't be a problem. I was correct and I wasn't the only one breaking the rule.
However, as a general rule, I avoid "no sex tourism" places and I keep things quiet and discreet. That way everyone is happy.
I have tons of points I can use. Is Marriott girl friendly? Are they okay bringing in girls?I use the Four Points. The first girls is obviously fine, after that I take one of two approaches:
1) Book back to back one or two night reservations (you get a new +1 each time).
2) Discretely bring in girls through the back gate during the day. It locks at like 8 pm and they pay more attention at night.
For $45 to $50/ nt including a great breakfast buffet, onsite spa, waiting taxis, and proximity to the mall I've found it a great place to stay.
That bus continues to the Tesoro mall and stops pretty much anyplace you like on the way. From Tesoro it retraces its route back down to the Metro.
Yes, you can take the bus up from the Metro station. In fact, when I did it, it even let out right in front of where I was staying at the Hotel Dix. I've also heard that it can be free with a Civica Card if you take it right after taking the Metro (though I'm not quite sure how that works as my card was empty when I did it and I just paid in coins). The drawback to that though is that it's an extra connection, which means an extra wait between the rail and the bus (the last time I did it, I ended up waiting 15-20 minutes and could just as well walked), plus it's not as direct. With the bus direct to/from El Centro, you only have to wait once and it takes you direct to the top of the hill at Parque Poblado with no need to change transport anywhere and I never had to wait more than 5-10 minutes for a bus plying the Cra 43a route.
As for the limitations of the Moovit app, yes I hear you. It's far from perfect though I still found it somewhat useful and FAR better than what's available for bus routes and schedules that you can find for buses in most of Central and South America, which in most areas is virtually non-existent (BTW, why do the few Latin American bus company websites that do exist typically just show pictures of their buses with no route, fare or schedule info?)
Another transportation app I used in Medellin was Cabify and that I found to be even less useful than Moovit. The best that can be said for that app is that you can charge taxi rides to your credit card, which can be very useful for when you first arrive at the airport and don't yet have local currency (though the 2 ATM's right before the airport exit can take care of that) and also the fare to or from the airport comes out a few dollars cheaper than regular taxis. However, everywhere else I tried Cabify the fare came out more (sometimes much more) than a regular taxi, plus it involved waiting a few minutes for it to arrive vs. just jumping in the nearest available cab.
I also tried the Metro app and if you thought Moovit was a pain to deal with then you shouldn't even bother with the Metro app.
I am heading to Medellin in a few days and have made it my new spot over the past year. Spent years in the hobby in Cuba, Venezuela, and Costa Rica. All were amazing in their day, but political changes brought about changes as a destination, especially for mongering. When does the new President take office? In asking this, I realize that changes may not happen immediately (but they could). For example, Cuba was THE place for years, until Castro shut it down literally overnight. Venezuela. Similar but with a change in leadership. You guys have more experience and a better feel for Columbia, since I am a relative newbie (7 times in 2 years). For those there now, have you seen any indication of immediate changes? What are your thoughts about the future. The question relates to those of us traveling to Columbia for mongering, not social, political, or anything else. This is not the forum for that. What I do know, is that a few days from there, I will be banging everything I can that my poor, old, tired, cynical, fat ass will permit. Gentlemen.
Happy hunting.
Snook.
Is Colombia screwed as a destination? Even if the socialist president bans prostitution (which he seems like a new age leftist so he probably won't) the economy is going to turn into Venezuela lite and make it too dangerous.
That's correct, you can use your Civica card on the calle 10 bus route from the Metro station but it is not a free transfer. I think the standard fare is 2,550. It's slightly less if you have a senior citizen (60 or older) Civica.
The Metro card which is called a Civica only entitles you to ride the bus lines directly connected to the Metro Stations and not the City buses. Entrance to the Metro connected bus stations such as at the Industriales station have a turn-style entrance that reads the Civica card. If you ride the Metro and then the bus or vice versa it's included at no additional charge.
For those wanting to travel from Centro to Poblado, and avoid using the Metro, along with huffing and puffing up Calle 10, there is a bus within a block of Hotel Nutibarra that goes to Parque Poblado a few blocks down the hill from Parque Llears. I've taken it at times when the Metro is shut down and it goes along Avenida Oriental which turns into Avenue Poblado when it leaves Centro.
The new President assumes power August 7. The only change has been the reversal of suspensions of several mayors including Daniel Quintero of Medellin. They were suspended for breaking the law that prohibits them engaging in political campaigns for national candidates while in office. That is specific to the election; no policy changes will take place before August. Enjoy your visit.
I am heading to Medellin in a few days and have made it my new spot over the past year. Spent years in the hobby in Cuba, Venezuela, and Costa Rica. All were amazing in their day, but political changes brought about changes as a destination, especially for mongering. When does the new President take office? In asking this, I realize that changes may not happen immediately (but they could). For example, Cuba was THE place for years, until Castro shut it down literally overnight. Venezuela. Similar but with a change in leadership. You guys have more experience and a better feel for Columbia, since I am a relative newbie (7 times in 2 years). For those there now, have you seen any indication of immediate changes? What are your thoughts about the future. The question relates to those of us traveling to Columbia for mongering, not social, political, or anything else. This is not the forum for that. What I do know, is that a few days from there, I will be banging everything I can that my poor, old, tired, cynical, fat ass will permit. Gentlemen.
Happy hunting.
Snook.
...Mongering and the election...It's been discussed. Look up posts from Sunday and Monday, and here.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3946-Stupid-shit-in-Medellin
I haven't really seen this talked about, but what attire do you guys usually use for going out (e. G, to the club, restaurants, etc)?...It has been discussed but it goes in cycle. Jeans will be fine. Just wear what you feel comfortable. Skinny jeans is popular in El Poblado but not so much in El Centro.
It has been discussed but it goes in cycle. Jeans will be fine. Just wear what you feel comfortable. Skinny jeans is popular in El Poblado but not so much in El Centro.Oh what's popular in El Centro? More formal attire?
I've seen the error in that approach.
A boutique hotel I spent a few days in over Christmas 2017, while my roommate's entire family was visiting from Bogota, had signs in the lobby and pictures of the signs on Booking and other hotel sites. You couldn't check in without seeing the signs and "No guests or visitors" was posted in the rules. I had to wait 10 minutes to talk to reception while a gringo begged and pleaded to get them to allow his obvious working girl visitor come in. He didn't succeed.
The upscale jacuzzi loft I rented last month only stated that guests under 18 weren't allowed. The place was obviously set up for fucking. After I booked, the confirmation email stated "no prostitution", but I figured, provided a bit of discretion was used, it wouldn't be a problem. I was correct and I wasn't the only one breaking the rule.
However, as a general rule, I avoid "no sex tourism" places and I keep things quiet and discreet. That way everyone is happy."Hiding in plain sight" is not a good mongering strategy.
At check in at the Medellin Marriott, the registration you sign has a paragraph that clearly states that there is a $200 charge for bringing girls to your room, I'm not into girls but what about women?
Usually jeans, a nice pair of sneakers and either a nice t-shirt or occasionally a polo. I'll also usually bring a light jacket or hoodie in case of rain, although I'll skip the jacket for strip clubs, since I'm usually not going to be hopping from club to club.
By nice t-shirt I usually mean one of the dry wick types. They're comfortable and dressy enough for anyplace I've been in Medellin.Do you think a dress shirt and chinos would be too formal for most clubs and restaurants in Medellin?
I haven't really seen this talked about, but what attire do you guys usually use for going out (e. G, to the club, restaurants, etc)?
Hawaii shirts, psychedelic shorts and flip flops. And bring a bassball cap to blend in when you go clubbing in Manrique.
Hawaii shirts, psychedelic shorts and flip flops. And bring a bassball cap to blend in when you go clubbing in Manrique.Are baseball caps out of place in medellin? Heard about the aversion towards shorts and flip flops in Colombia (unless you're in Cartagena), but haven't heard anything about caps.
Nil Admirari
06-22-22, 13:56
Googling from back here in Hometown USA, I gather that Colombia, like most of the planet, is experiencing escalating inflation--in Colombia's case, a 21 year high of nearly 10% on an annualized basis. (See https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-06/colombian-inflation-jumps-more-than-expected-to-21-year-high#text=The%20 annual%20 inflation%20 rate%20 rose,%25%20 to%204%25%20 target%20 range.).
I'm curious whether any of you guys on the ground in Medellin have noticed some ratcheting up in the basic costs of our hobby: entry charges at the strip clubs, casa base rates, a beer at Barra Executiva? Perhaps as a BM service, ISG should look into creating a Mongering Price Index (the cost of a standardized package of services: (1 HR. CFS, DFK, BBBJ--weighted proportionately by market share among SWs, brothels, clubs, on-line providers).
Hawaii shirts, psychedelic shorts and flip flops. And bring a bassball cap to blend in when you go clubbing in Manrique.I am sure you could have come up with something better than that.
Oh what's popular in El Centro? More formal attire?It depends on the time, and place, there are a lot of office workers working in this area, tourists, street vendors, working girls so you are likely to see all kinds. I go to clubs wearing shorts, sometimes flipflops but that is just me. You can watch youtube videos to get a better idea.
.. have noticed some ratcheting up in the basic costs of our hobby: entry charges at the strip clubs, casa base rate...I see some difference between now and before pandemic.
Local inflation:
Coffee price from the wholesales vendor under metro near Plaza Botero.
Before: 200.
After:400.
Street food near Plaza Botero:
Before: 4-5 mil.
After: 6 mil.
Gringo inflation:
La Isla cover.
Before: 10 mil.
After: 50 mil.
I see some difference between now and before pandemic.
Local inflation:
Coffee price from the wholesales vendor under metro near Plaza Botero.
Before: 200.
After:400.
Street food near Plaza Botero:
Before: 4-5 mil.
After: 6 mil.
Gringo inflation:
La Isla cover.
Before: 10 mil.
After: 50 mil.Metro fares, rent, groceries. . . I am sure the list is long.
Is Colombia screwed as a destination? Even if the socialist president bans prostitution (which he seems like a new age leftist so he probably won't) the economy is going to turn into Venezuela lite and make it too dangerous.Yes, You should cancel your trip ASAP!
DonMedellin
06-22-22, 16:48
I'm curious whether any of you guys on the ground in Medellin have noticed some ratcheting up in the basic costs of our hobby....
I was paying 50 k cop for HH in a casa right before the pandemic in 2020. When I returned, the rate went up to 55 k cop, not a huge deal for me imo. My lunch spot was 12 k Menu del DIA, then it was 15 k, now it is 18 k. Then portion got bigger for a few days when the price went up to 18 k, then it got back to normal portion size.
I am sure you could have come up with something better than that.I was just finishing up breakfast. It was th best I could at the time. Baseball caps. Nearly every person under 30 years old (and many that are older) that lives in 'the barrios' wears a baseball cap 24/7.
Yes, You should cancel your trip ASAP!Supply and demand my brothers in HiJinx, supply and demand. Decrease demand and puta prices will not go up (obviously when adjusted for inflation and the exchange rate). In fact, isn't there an argument that we are paying less now than say twenty years ago? Not sure, just wondering. . . I've only been here since 2019. I hope to die here, in the middle of a mongering session, "doing what he loved the most," jajaja.
Inflation is high worldwide. It is more impactful for some people than it is for others.
I see some difference between now and before pandemic.
Local inflation:
Coffee price from the wholesales vendor under metro near Plaza Botero.
Before: 200.
After:400.
Street food near Plaza Botero:
Before: 4-5 mil.
After: 6 mil..
Metro fares, rent, groceries. . . I am sure the list is long.Every year things go up, and you add inflation, and things have been jacked way up, especially food products.
However with the USD to COP exchange rate being so favorable, and increasing over time it's a different story compared to other Countries.
In the USA where gas in California is over $ 6 USD a gallon, and in Colombia it's about 9,000 COP per gallon or approximately $ 2.25 a gallon it kind of seems contradictory that Colombia's gas prices haven't gone up like most everything else.
The original post on this topic was in reference to "mongering costs", and although casa's and clubs and bars have been raising their prices, the street scene has not been affected as much, as there are still many many SW's who go for 30,000 COP. And if your into beached whales and glue sniffers they will go for less. LOL.
So in this niche of mongering, prices haven't really risen, but have fallen, especially when the COP was topping out over 4100 COP.
It's hard to imagine at times that for approximately $ 10 USD in Centro, you can get fucked and sucked including a cheap Love Motel.
Ever since Freckle came back from her fingernail injury, there is a different milieu in the room, less passionate, more preoccupied. We had our first ever round of make-up sex, but you only get one of those on your punchcard. She just left after coming for only 30 minutes and asking for money for medicine for her finger. I will see her again but not the next time or two or three when she asks. I gave her the money and told her to get lost without any sex.
After a brief initial period of disappointment, I am content. Freckle and I had that euphoria of new love that forestalled all reality for four weeks. Before Medellin, I could measure that time per new chica in minutes or hours, rarely days, never weeks.
The disco lights were less than 80 mil COP for the two and I love the upgrade. I can almost bet you money that any chica who is willing to show up to your room, after she sees the lights, hears the music, and watches herself in a couple of strategically placed mirrors, will be dancing in her underwear or "interior ropa" in minutes. Obviously, after that, the rest is a cake walk.
I still have not seen Scarlet. She is getting kicked out of her apartment on Monday because I am no longer paying the rent. For my first offer to recapitulate, I told her I would fund a fiesta this weekend at her place, if she would invite every chica I ever met and fucked through her. If half of them show up that should be about ten. I invited my wingman to come for free and he said no, go figure. Different strokes for different folks. His sessions are highly ritualized and predictable so I understand why my party may not sound like fun for him. On the other hand, I have the reputation for fucking anything that moves with a wet hole. Maybe even after it stops moving but before ambient temperature sets in, jeje.
I am headed over to Ground Zero. I also had a less than satisfactory session there last night and that needs to be erased from my memory banks. A little bit scary, that same new chica from Ground Zero showed up at my hotel door a couple of hours after and I don't remember telling her my room number. The front desk did call up but I was already expecting another chica, so from lack of Spanish comprehension I told them to send her up. She turned out to be harmless.
Two unsatisfactory sessions in a row is such a rarity here for me that I am not sure if it ever happened before. A little time, usually a day or less, and the ship rights itself, every time so far. Tomorrow is guaranteed to no one. Not sure, but I think that quote is Biblical.
Ostee Out!
I am heading to Medellin in a few days and have made it my new spot over the past year. Spent years in the hobby in Cuba, Venezuela, and Costa Rica. All were amazing in their day, but political changes brought about changes as a destination, especially for mongering. When does the new President take office? In asking this, I realize that changes may not happen immediately (but they could). For example, Cuba was THE place for years, until Castro shut it down literally overnight. Venezuela. Similar but with a change in leadership. You guys have more experience and a better feel for Columbia, since I am a relative newbie (7 times in 2 years). For those there now, have you seen any indication of immediate changes? What are your thoughts about the future. The question relates to those of us traveling to Columbia for mongering, not social, political, or anything else. This is not the forum for that. What I do know, is that a few days from there, I will be banging everything I can that my poor, old, tired, cynical, fat ass will permit. Gentlemen.
Happy hunting.
Snook.The Force is strong with this one, too, jeje. Gawd, I would love to hear stories about Cuba from back in the day. Maybe because I grew up in Florida and had awareness well before the Mariel boatlifts, and lived in Miami for five years during the late eighties. I have always been fascinated by Cuba.
Is Colombia screwed as a destination? Even if the socialist president bans prostitution (which he seems like a new age leftist so he probably won't) the economy is going to turn into Venezuela lite and make it too dangerous.You have a profound understanding of Colombian politics and economics. I'm going to continue to live here despite it all but you should stay away. At least for 4 more years until the next presidential election. I mean afterall this former-guerilla leftist wants to tax the wealthy and raise the minimum wage and increase pensions for the elderly. The last politician that implemented those kind of radical socialist changes was. Ahh. Ahh, oh yeah. Franklin Roosevelt.
Googling from back here in Hometown USA, I gather that Colombia, like most of the planet, is experiencing escalating inflation--in Colombia's case, a 21 year high of nearly 10% on an annualized basis. (See https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-06/colombian-inflation-jumps-more-than-expected-to-21-year-high#text=The%20 annual%20 inflation%20 rate%20 rose,%25%20 to%204%25%20 target%20 range.).
I'm curious whether any of you guys on the ground in Medellin have noticed some ratcheting up in the basic costs of our hobby: entry charges at the strip clubs, casa base rates, a beer at Barra Executiva? Perhaps as a BM service, ISG should look into creating a Mongering Price Index (the cost of a standardized package of services: (1 HR. CFS, DFK, BBBJ--weighted proportionately by market share among SWs, brothels, clubs, on-line providers).I can't really give you the best of information since I don't touch street-walkers, I rarely get my sexercise in the casas or strip-clubs. I haven't seen much of anything with respect to FB girls. Rates are pretty much the same. I. e. 200 mil + taxis (sometimes a little more).
But I really like your idea of a Mongering Price Index. It should be comparable, something like 'numbeo.com' which allows you to compare cost of living information (which is crowd-sourced) for various locations. What about something similar for sexual services? So maybe a 1 hour standard 'cita' in Medellin (CFS, DFK, BBBJ) priced in $ compared to the same session in Spain or Thailand or Vietnam or Costa Rica etc.
FlowState985
06-22-22, 20:14
Anyone been to San Peter apartments lately. I stayed there twice 2 years ago and it was definitely chica friendly and had an on-site bar. Now seeing Airbnb posts saying "Absolutely no Sex Tourism". And some other very strict rules. Anybody have any intel?This will depends on the owner of the apartment, not all Airbnb at San Peters has that saying.
Are baseball caps out of place in medellin? Heard about the aversion towards shorts and flip flops in Colombia (unless you're in Cartagena), but haven't heard anything about caps.You've asked more questions prior to a trip than anyone I know. You could find the answer to half these non monger questions about dress and taxis on TripAdvisor. Are you sure you really want to go?
FlAdventurer
06-22-22, 20:58
At some point, all of us were new here. But, I can't recall anyone on any forum on ISG that has had as many posts as you with each having a single question.
This is a forum for contributors, not so much question askers unless you put them all in one post and then maybe someone will respond to that single post.
What you really need to do to prepare for your trip is spend a few hours reviewing the city you wish to go, review General Information for the country to see what you can learn there, buy a subscription so that you can communicate with others off forum but only after you have invested time to get up too speed. And then you should also make google your friend and find additional info off forum. Only then should you be at the point with specific questions.
Never ask a question that you can answer yourself with simple research.
Finally, good luck. You seem apprehensive, I believe you said this is your first time. I would recommend you find a buddy to go with you. I think it would make things easier for you.
MasterOfNone
06-22-22, 21:17
Good afternoon Gents.
Quick question then I can figure it out from here. Last time in Medellin was about 2018. My regular destination had become the DR. Traveled there 5 times this year alone. But time for a change and aside form taking a 9 hour flight to Brazil I'm thinking Medellin is the place to return.
Is Parque Lleras still the best spot to find girls?
Would you consider Medellin safe for solo travel?
Any help would be appreciated and any additional information anyone would like to supply is welcomed as well.
Thank you.
ILikeButts
06-22-22, 21:25
My lunch spot was 12 k Menu del dia, then it was 15 k, now it is 18 k.That seems pretty high, is it in Poblado?
Metro fares, rent, groceries. I am sure the list is long.Metro, taxi and bus fares all increase at the beginning of the year.
Good afternoon Gents.
Quick question then I can figure it out from here. Last time in Medellin was about 2018. My regular destination had become the DR. Traveled there 5 times this year alone. But time for a change and aside form taking a 9 hour flight to Brazil I'm thinking Medellin is the place to return.
Is Parque Lleras still the best spot to find girls?
Would you consider Medellin safe for solo travel?
Any help would be appreciated and any additional information anyone would like to supply is welcomed as well.
Thank you.Opinions will vary on this, but I don't think Parque Lleras has ever been the best spot to find girls. However, it is still a place where you can find girls.
Is Medellin safe for solo travel? I don't know. I always travel solo and I consider it safe for the way I do things. I know a lot of solo travelers who consider it safe enough to keep coming back.
You've asked more questions prior to a trip than anyone I know. You could find the answer to half these non monger questions about dress and taxis on TripAdvisor. Are you sure you really want to go?I can keep the non monger questions off these forums but what does non monger questions have to do with whether I want to go or not?
In fact, isn't there an argument that we are paying less now than say twenty years ago? Not sure, just wondering. I've only been here since 2019. I hope to die here, in the middle of a mongering session, "doing what he loved the most," jajaja.There were no foreign mongers in Medellin two decades ago as nobody was coming to the murder capital of the World back then.
And is it cheaper now, hell yes, and seems to have gotten cheaper and cheaper due to the exchange rate over the years.
Then portion got bigger for a few days when the price went up to 18 k, then it got back to normal portion size."Soften the blow" of the price increase at first, then back to situation normal. Market research has shown time and time again consumers are sensitive to minute changes in price, quantity, quality, and your statement is consistent with this.
FlowState985
06-22-22, 22:55
Is Parque Lleras still the best spot to find girls?
Would you consider Medellin safe for solo travel?
Any help would be appreciated and any additional information anyone would like to supply is welcomed as well.
Thank you.Safe for solo travel, but just like everywhere in the world, still be cautious and pay attention to your surroundings.
Parque Lleras is not the only spot or best spot. It really depends on your preference.
Parque Llerras is more of a night time activities. Club / bars and you got SW standing around there now which is very obvious than before pandanmic. It comes alive after 9 PM.
AmorPorFavor
06-22-22, 23:18
I use the Four Points. The first girls is obviously fine, after that I take one of two approaches:
1) Book back to back one or two night reservations (you get a new +1 each time).
2) Discretely bring in girls through the back gate during the day. It locks at like 8 pm and they pay more attention at night.
For $45 to $50/ nt including a great breakfast buffet, onsite spa, waiting taxis, and proximity to the mall I've found it a great place to stay.When you do the back to back bookings do they make you check out of your room and get a new one? That would be a pain in the ass. Do they make you give them the name of the new girl when you take the new reservation or can you give it to them later? Do they give you a hard time about it or is it smooth?
DonMedellin
06-22-22, 23:18
Good afternoon Gents.
Is Parque Lleras still the best spot to find girls?
Would you consider Medellin safe for solo travel?
If you want to find higher end street girls, Lleras Park at night is the only place I can think of. Just make sure you know the market. Most girls there over charge gringos. There are clubs right around the park where you all find very attractive girls, again, know the market soi you don't over pay.
I would consider Medellin to be safe if you stick to Poblado, Laureles and ground zero, given that you maintain a low profile and stay sober. With common sense, I think Medellin is generally safe. Also, early am is not as safe. I know a few friends who were robbed at gun point.
Do you think a dress shirt and chinos would be too formal for most clubs and restaurants in Medellin?I think you overthink this. You will find it quite upscale if you are staying around areas like El Poblado, or even Laureles to some extend. Or you can judge by what the girls wear.
This will depends on the owner of the apartment, not all Airbnb at San Peters has that saying.I think it's a mistaken identity unless the security at San Peter has a list of what is allowed and not allowed for different units. It just does not make sense.
When you do the back to back bookings do they make you check out of your room and get a new one? That would be a pain in the ass. Do they make you give them the name of the new girl when you take the new reservation or can you give it to them later? Do they give you a hard time about it or is it smooth?I don't need to check out. They let me stay in the same room. I have not needed to give a new name and it has been relatively smooth for the most part. In my last 5 or 6 stays (multiple sub bookings) I've had them call 2 x about it, but I discussed with the Manager and was not charged. The do photo copy the girls passport, so make sure she brings that and is decently well dressed.
MasterOfNone
06-23-22, 00:47
Safe for solo travel, but just like everywhere in the world, still be cautious and pay attention to your surroundings.
Parque Lleras is not the only spot or best spot. It really depends on your preference.
Parque Llerras is more of a night time activities. Club / bars and you got SW standing around there now which is very obvious than before pandanmic. It comes alive after 9 PM.Thank you for the response and much appreciate the info.
Just from my last visit I remember Lleras Park being pretty active. And I am thinking along of line of me traveling solo I was assuming that might be my best go for good looking women and keeping in a relatively safe zone.
You mentioned not the "best" spot. Would you mind letting me know what you think is the best spot? Keep in mind cool for a solo traveler.
MasterOfNone
06-23-22, 00:51
If you want to find higher end street girls, Lleras Park at night is the only place I can think of. Just make sure you know the market. Most girls there over charge gringos. There are clubs right around the park where you all find very attractive girls, again, know the market soi you don't over pay.
I would consider Medellin to be safe if you stick to Poblado, Laureles and ground zero, given that you maintain a low profile and stay sober. With common sense, I think Medellin is generally safe. Also, early am is not as safe. I know a few friends who were robbed at gun point.I was in Medellin down the street from lleras Park in a little store and I remember an older gentleman coming up to me saying tuck my chain in. I took the warning and left the chain in the house the rest of the trip.
I'm thinking lleras park will be my main place until I get out there a bit more and start to feel comfortable.
I agree with you 100% about knowing the market. The market in DR was beautiful until guys forgot how to control their wallet.
What is the current market for Medellin?
Great session today in El Centro. Ninety minutes. I went with a known entity, Pumpkin. Maybe that's a slight cop-out going with a girl who I have been with many times before, but there is always a higher risk when starting up with a new chica, and possibly more excitement. I needed the sure thing after my last two unsatisfactory sessions. I didn't have to worry about keeping close control of my shit as I completely trust here.
We went shopping first to get a new small Blue Tooth speaker for the room. Sounds like shit with THD (Total Harmonic Destruction) probably around ten percent, but I wanted more sound than what my cheap cellular will put out. I got her a new case for her phone as a pre-session regalo for 15 mil COP, and I believe my ROI (Return on Investment) was excellent, but of course that in an intangible.
We went inside the mall nearest the church looking for the Blue Tooth speaker and I had a shot of tequila with a beer chaser, Pumpkin did not order anything.
I also gave her a five minute foot massage at the start and you would've thought we were having sex the way she was moaning. I know a lot of guys here think the extra steps I do are unnecessary and overkill, but I enjoy it and I believe it puts me in a favorable category in their heads. Or you can say I am a pathetic loser that can't get girls without buying them gifts and treating them human beings. That's according to the spin you put on it and what you have to tell yourself to keep your brain happy with your own identity. I believe those kind of comparisons among mongering styles to be an exercise in futility and for the most part never think those thoughts.
I have been around the game long enough not to suffer from SSS (Special Snowflake Syndrome) which happens when guys start to believe they really are different and better and that the puta likes them more than the other guys. A puta can smell this weakness in a mongerer like the way a shark smells blood, and she will feed into it for as long as it takes to get what she wants, including a walk down the wedding aisle. I am happy if after we part ways, she can consider it a "good day at the office".
Soes you know I wasn't totally blowing smoke up your asses, they gave me "my" room back, #201 in the front, with decent WiFi, a view, and I don't think you get any closer to the Ground Zero landmark, the Vera Cruz Cruz church.
She did something new with she said she never did before, 69 or our sides. I love that position. Each person rests their head on the lower inner thigh of the other. Very comfortable, no one has to strain and can concentrate on the genitalia in their face.
Ninety minutes sounds like a long time but I burnt up 30 minutes setting up the new speaker on my phone. The maid let me hang-out in the room by myself for 15 additional minutes after she came knocking, I believe because I tipped her then and the day before.
Secret is sending over another one of her new girls tonight. She will be the fifth. She is the first one who isn't 18 years old, she is twenty and she looks experienced. She looks great in her fotos, but I will reserve judgment until I see her for real. Hopefully get some shots to post. Ostee Out.
Metro, taxi and bus fares all increase at the beginning of the year.Can't remember where I read that. That is considered a huge leap my Colombian standards.
If you want to find higher end street girls, Lleras Park at night is the only place I can think of. HIgh end street girls. Now that is a concept I struggle to get my head around. What does "high end" mean? I can't think it means anything, other than high price.
Elvis 2008
06-23-22, 02:32
HIgh end street girls. Now that is a concept I struggle to get my head around. What does "high end" mean? I can't think it means anything, other than high price.They carry packaged condoms.
I think it's a mistaken identity unless the security at San Peter has a list of what is allowed and not allowed for different units. It just does not make sense.Last time I stayed in San Peter (Jan 2022) the front desk would make note of everyone who came in when they checked in w / cedula (ID). They could just report that to each owner I would guess. The one I stayed at and another I saw specifically allowed guests 18+ so I'd say to just look for that within the rules of the stay and save some headache / money.
You nailed it. When they are in Centro they are low end and when they are in Lleras they are high end.
HIgh end street girls. Now that is a concept I struggle to get my head around. What does "high end" mean? I can't think it means anything, other than high price.
HIgh end street girls. Now that is a concept I struggle to get my head around. What does "high end" mean? I can't think it means anything, other than high price.Obvio he meant "high priced street girls" since he referenced Parque Lleras as opposed to Botero.
Obvio he meant "high priced street girls" since he referenced Parque Lleras as opposed to Botero.Parque Lleras years ago did not have any Centro girls working the park, and seemed like a different breed working, until the Centro girls started working it as well.
I find it amusing that some guys think the girls there are better there than in Centro. And not all of the girls in Centro can work the Park, either not having the skills to deal with foreigners because their client base and experience has always been with locals, are too fat and ugly, and for other reasons.
When I see girls working the Park who also work Centro, I give them credit, and my amusement is thinking about the guys that pull them who fork out 150 K and more, when the same can be had in Centro for a lot less, yet realize that the deed will occur in nicer digs.
Maybe guys think because it's in Poblado, the entertainment district, etc. That the girls will be better, but there's no correlation in my book.
If you want to find higher end street girls, Lleras Park at night is the only place I can think of. Just make sure you know the market. Most girls there over charge gringos. There are clubs right around the park where you all find very attractive girls, again, know the market soi you don't over pay.
I would consider Medellin to be safe if you stick to Poblado, Laureles and ground zero, given that you maintain a low profile and stay sober. With common sense, I think Medellin is generally safe. Also, early am is not as safe. I know a few friends who were robbed at gun point.Picking up girls in Lleras Park doesn't make sense to me. I swear I have seen the same girls in el centro as Lleras Park, only difference is the price.
GeneHickman
06-23-22, 06:50
Oh what's popular in El Centro? More formal attire?Obviously a 3 piece tuxedo.
Bro RTFF.
Parque Lleras years ago did not have any Centro girls working the park, and seemed like a different breed working, until the Centro girls started working it as well.
I find it amusing that some guys think the girls there are better there than in Centro. And not all of the girls in Centro can work the Park, either not having the skills to deal with foreigners because their client base and experience has always been with locals, are too fat and ugly, and for other reasons.
When I see girls working the Park who also work Centro, I give them credit, and my amusement is thinking about the guys that pull them who fork out 150 K and more, when the same can be had in Centro for a lot less, yet realize that the deed will occur in nicer digs.
Maybe guys think because it's in Poblado, the entertainment district, etc. That the girls will be better, but there's no correlation in my book.This is a recent trend and I noticed this as well. It started happening a couple years ago.
I don't even monger anymore but a couple years ago when I was still hobbying I noticed this as well.
The last couple years the overall quality of all girls as far as physical looks has gone to trash.
During the pandemic this became a mongers paradise and I think the real hot ones got sugar daddies especially from euro mongers.
But in all honesty, for mongering purposes, I'll sacrifice the looks for service. Since I wouldn't want to be seen in public with them anyways.
You nailed it. When they are in Centro they are low end and when they are in Lleras they are high end.That's because Parque Lleras is higher elevation than El Centro.
This is a recent trend and I noticed this as well. It started happening a couple years ago.
I don't even monger anymore but a couple years ago when I was still hobbying I noticed this as well.
The last couple years the overall quality of all girls as far as physical looks has gone to trash.
During the pandemic this became a mongers paradise and I think the real hot ones got sugar daddies especially from euro mongers.
But in all honesty, for mongering purposes, I'll sacrifice the looks for service. Since I wouldn't want to be seen in public with them anyways.Once a "monger" always a monger so you are still mongering. As to the girls, there are plenty of hot ones and always will be. They all come from the same handful of barrios, and when they get desperate for $, they get desperate. They show up in the Centro casas and strip clubs, and when the moment is right couldn't care less what mongers online consider "high end" or not. The scene hasn't changed, nor will it ever. Enjoy gentlemen.
I don't even monger anymore but a couple years ago when I was still hobbying I noticed this as well.What happened? Too busy with work? Started a monogamous relationship?
This is a recent trend and I noticed this as well. It started happening a couple years ago.
I don't even monger anymore but a couple years ago when I was still hobbying I noticed this as well.
The last couple years the overall quality of all girls as far as physical looks has gone to trash.
During the pandemic this became a mongers paradise and I think the real hot ones got sugar daddies especially from euro mongers.
But in all honesty, for mongering purposes, I'll sacrifice the looks for service. Since I wouldn't want to be seen in public with them anyways.I agree with everything you said except I get a different feel about the overall quality of the girls, but I have no direct experience since I've only been coming here since 2019. In fact I'm not contradicting you at all. I believe there was some cherry picking going on as a result of the pandemic. But I think the Law of Supply and Demand will assist in replenishing the physical looks or correct the "Lipstick on a Pig" factor, jeje, as younger girls turn 18. That is almost a generational pattern and we are skewed at the moment.
Yes, please tell us, what does it take to get this hobby knocked out of your system? I don't see that ever happening to me. That's not better or worse, that's just how it is.
DonMedellin
06-23-22, 15:08
HIgh end street girls. Now that is a concept I struggle to get my head around. What does "high end" mean? I can't think it means anything, other than high price.Based on my experience, you will find every centro type of girls in Lleras, but not the other way around. Over the years, I've seen so many tastefully dressed 9's and 10's in Lleras with no extra fat, no overly done make-up or perfume in Lleras. I was refering them as "higher end street girls". I would be nearly impossiable to find these girls in Centro.
Last time I stayed in San Peter (Jan 2022) the front desk would make note of everyone who came in when they checked in w / cedula (ID). They could just report that to each owner I would guess. The one I stayed at and another I saw specifically allowed guests 18+ so I'd say to just look for that within the rules of the stay and save some headache / money.What I mean is the owner should know San Peter is preferred by mongers. Why even own an unit in San Peter if the owner is against it? Most units are managed by agents and I think the agents want their units occupied to maximize income.
...Maybe guys think because it's in Poblado, the entertainment district, etc. That the girls will be better, but there's no correlation in my book.I think that is unlikely. Why do mongers go to El Centro to monger and stay in El Poblado? Why not just eat street food for dinner at 6 mil in El Centro? Do you know there are mongers would not kiss girls at El Centro?
I doubt that girls who can make it in Lleras will continue to work in El Centro. I am saying this because it is like working two jobs. I spent enough time at both places at same period of time to make enough observation. I mentioned it once before, the somewhat attractive girls that I met at Lleras park would not come down to 200 mil for a date during daytime the next day. One did not even reply and she wants extra for BBBJ on top of 300 mil.
Also you can go to La Isla to figure out why the business is far better than before pandemic, but more girls are offering limited services than before with higher price. BTW, this is only one night observation. It is just too crowded to get a table to make me want to go alone again.
I doubt that girls who can make it in Lleras will continue to work in El Centro. Sugar Baby is a kept woman. She works Poblado and El Centro. Technically, she doesn't have to work at all but she gets bored sitting at home in her Laureles aparatment. She has a sister in El Centro that can't or won't' work Poblado and she likes to keep her company. I have talked to a few girls who prefer the vibe at El Centro, it's more casual and very sociable.
There's all kinds of reasons why chicas would or wouldn't work both. I am sure there are chicas as you say who only work Poblado but I think it is much more fluid that you described. We are on the outside looking in and unless you get to really know some of these chicas, those reasons would escape you.
Based on my experience, you will find every centro type of girls in Lleras, but not the other way around. Over the years, I've seen so many tastefully dressed 9's and 10's in Lleras with no extra fat, no overly done make-up or perfume in Lleras. I was refering them as "higher end street girls". I would be nearly impossiable to find these girls in Centro.A few photos of your 9's and 10's working Lleras would be appreciated. Without photos I would call it BS, no offense.
Sugar Baby is a kept woman. She works Poblado and El Centro. Technically, she doesn't have to work at all but she gets bored sitting at home in her Laureles aparatment....You left out the conditions in my post. Does she make it in Poblado? Does she work at Poblado and El Centro the same day (two jobs)? Also I did not say it is impossible.
A few photos of your 9's and 10's working Lleras would be appreciated. Without photos I would call it BS, no offense.10's are like unicorns; legendary but they do not exist except in your phantasies. I did see a 9 once in Bogota, but I was not in her league and she smartly, wisely ignored me. JLo and Bo Derek once were near 10's but now have slid down the scale due to age and attitude. Try for a 7 or 8, they are doable.
I think that is unlikely. Why do mongers go to El Centro to monger and stay in El Poblado? Why not just eat street food for dinner at 6 mil in El Centro? Do you know there are mongers would not kiss girls at El Centro?
I doubt that girls who can make it in Lleras will continue to work in El Centro. I am saying this because it is like working two jobs. I spent enough time at both places at same period of time to make enough observation. I mentioned it once before, the somewhat attractive girls that I met at Lleras park would not come down to 200 mil for a date during daytime the next day. One did not even reply and she wants extra for BBBJ on top of 300 mil.
Also you can go to La Isla to figure out why the business is far better than before pandemic, but more girls are offering limited services than before with higher price. BTW, this is only one night observation. It is just too crowded to get a table to make me want to go alone again.Interesting question as to why mongers go to El Centro and stay in Poblado. For many reasons, which include not wanting to be there after it get's dark, a lack of nice places to stay, and a good variety of places to eat.
But it's much more than that, as there appears to be a perception that because someone mongers in El Centro, that they are either poor or cheap or both which has come up time after time on this board.
In reality, a lot of guys can easily afford the LLeras girls, yet their preference is for the El Centro girls, and the "hunt", and going somewhere that can be totally unpredictable at times, and when a days venture in Centro is complete, they can return to a comfortable place outside of El Centro.
Imagine banging a girl in El Centro in the afternoon, and spending say 50,000 COP out the door, and then having a gourmet meal in Poblado with wine costing upwards of 200,000 COP. This conceptually doesn't register with some guys as being realistic, but there are lots of mongers in Medellin who fall into this category.
You left out the conditions in my post. Does she make it in Poblado? Does she work at Poblado and El Centro the same day (two jobs)? Also I did not say it is impossible.Guilty as charged. Powned by reading comprehension, once again. I remember thinking to myself "that doesn't sound like Nounce". Jajajajaja. I was up all night. See my next post.
Based on my experience, you will find every centro type of girls in Lleras, but not the other way around.What about the extremely fat and grotesquely ugly girls, or the glue sniffers, or the pregnant girls, or the dazed / stoned girls, or the old hags that work in Centro.
This constitutes at least 50% of Centro in my estimation, and I have yet to see any of them working Lleras, at least not yet.
But who knows, maybe they will start showing up there as well.
SankarShetty
06-23-22, 19:07
Around strip clubs Fase dos and San Diego there seems to be Centro style street walker scene in the smaller alleyways between 10 pm and 2 am. Anyone has experience of pulling street girls from this area? Where do you take them? Are there any ST motels close by?
I will be on ground next week and intend to check this out.
LoveItHere69
06-23-22, 19:29
Based on my experience, you will find every centro type of girls in Lleras, but not the other way around. Over the years, I've seen so many tastefully dressed 9's and 10's in Lleras with no extra fat, no overly done make-up or perfume in Lleras. I was refering them as "higher end street girls". I would be nearly impossible to find these girls in Centro.I found a street girl in Manizales coffee region. Everything went well the first time. Tried to get her a second time but she was not interested it seemed. I made eye contact and nodded and walked away towards the hotel. I waited not far away in eye sight for 10 minutes but she kept talking to her friends. Tried two different days. Nearly a month later she approached me at Centro / Botero but I did not stop to chat because I could not remember who she was. Never saw her at Centro again. Month later saw her at Lleras Park. Tried to get her number but she said she had no phone which is BS since she had one in Manizales where she made little money. She found where she belonged. So I achieved the super impossible because I found a Lleras Park girl in three places. All bow please.
I doubt that girls who can make it in Lleras will continue to work in El Centro. I am saying this because it is like working two jobs. I spent enough time at both places at same period of time to make enough observation. I mentioned it once before, the somewhat attractive girls that I met at Lleras park would not come down to 200 mil for a date during daytime the next day. One did not even reply and she wants extra for BBBJ on top of 300 mil. .Agree 100%. Too many guys say it's the exact same girls in Lleras as there are in El Centro, you just pay more in Lleras. That's only partially true. A girl who normally works El Centro will try to earn in Lleras if she can, but you're going to find very few, if any, girls who have regular success in Lleras at 200/250 k a pop decide to go back to working El Centro for 30/40 k a guy. They'd much rather take it easy and rest up for the night. Why wouldn't they? If a girl can last in Lleras (ie they get enough interest) I would assume they're typically better, at least in looks.
I think the only guys that say the girls are the same are those that primarily focus in El Centro and see one of their girls at Lleras. I've rarely heard the other way around where a guy picks up a stunner in Lleras and the next day sees her on an El Centro street corner.
Agree 100%. Too many guys say it's the exact same girls in Lleras as there are in El Centro, you just pay more in Lleras. That's only partially true. A girl who normally works El Centro will try to earn in Lleras if she can, but you're going to find very few, if any, girls who have regular success in Lleras at 200/250 k a pop decide to go back to working El Centro for 30/40 k a guy. They'd much rather take it easy and rest up for the night. Why wouldn't they? If a girl can last in Lleras (ie they get enough interest) I would assume they're typically better, at least in looks.
I think the only guys that say the girls are the same are those that primarily focus in El Centro and see one of their girls at Lleras. I've rarely heard the other way around where a guy picks up a stunner in Lleras and the next day sees her on an El Centro street corner.Some guys wear rose-colored glasses, while I may have tunned vision, jajajaja. I definitely do not have the enough experience at Poblado to continue, so I am going to beg off this thread.
What about the extremely fat and grotesquely ugly girls, or the glue sniffers, or the pregnant girls, or the dazed / stoned girls, or the old hags that work in Centro.
This constitutes at least 50% of Centro in my estimation, and I have yet to see any of them working Lleras, at least not yet.
But who knows, maybe they will start showing up there as well.Hey now the old hags really be putting in that work!!
You nailed it. When they are in Centro they are low end and when they are in Lleras they are high end."High End" - it could be various things -.
* High price.
* Better looking.
* More make up / longer nails.
* More plastic.
* Voted for Hernandez.
* Can quote from Gabriel Garcia Marquez.
I have never met any that tick all 6 boxes.
What about the extremely fat and grotesquely ugly girls, or the glue sniffers, or the pregnant girls, or the dazed / stoned girls, or the old hags that work in Centro.
This constitutes at least 50% of Centro in my estimation, and I have yet to see any of them working Lleras, at least not yet.
But who knows, maybe they will start showing up there as well.Thanks to the Mongering gods that I've never had to visit the so-called Centro! I just get the shakes hearing about those specimens!! My main source are FB girls, my native is spanish, near native english and basic german now. I've made my solid list of 7's thru 9's, that I used to frequent before the pandemic and will be rekindling flames in August. 100 k or 150 k and with enough speech I get them to stay overnight, just plenty of booze, weed and food and I'm in! Sometimes, if the girl is pretty or its been really nice to me I throw in 50 k extra.
About Lleras, I've never picked from there as when I go to Lleras is either to have a couple of beers in the park or go clubbing in the Techno club nearby along with a preset girl and then after party at my apartment.
Interesting question as to why mongers go to El Centro and stay in Poblado. ...For me, there is nothing wrong kissing girls in El Centro. The questions are used to show mongering in El Centro requires more adjustments. Fewer are able to go all in like Osteoknot or LIH69.
... Without photos I would call it BS, no offense.But that can be said to other platforms as well, right? Besides, it's not online where photos are a requirement.
ColombiaLover
06-24-22, 01:19
I'm not much of a FASE II guy and have not been for years. But back in the day, the streets were a place for trannies to hang out. May well have changed, but just be careful.
Around strip clubs Fase dos and San Diego there seems to be Centro style street walker scene in the smaller alleyways between 10 pm and 2 am. Anyone has experience of pulling street girls from this area? Where do you take them? Are there any ST motels close by?
I will be on ground next week and intend to check this out.
Secret brought me another Nubile Newbie (NN), she would be NN#5 and she was the first one who was not 18 years old, so not as "new". Amazing what two more years of "experience" at P4P will do to a girl, and I don't mean that in a bad way. She had all the moves. I fucked her in three different positions, and we did oral to each other in three different positions, include the foto showing 69. She was the second girl that day who told me she never did 69 in that position before, so take note, we may be onto something. It was kind of funny trying to get her into position with my limited Spanish. She kept flipping from her back to her stomach but not in between on her side (de tu lado) where I needed her. Fortunately, she was small and I physically was able to bend her into the right spot, jejeje.
I love this position for 69 because no one has to hold their head up, it's possible to get totally comfortable while concentrating on the genitalia in your face. Secret must've liked it too because she had her face about six inches from mine for a few minutes while I was eating out her friend. Hawt. Also, even though this chica said "no fotos", Secret used my crappy phone and shot the 69 foto without her friend's knowledge, jajajajajaja. Obviously and by far, the best shot of the session.
While we were exploring each other bodies I found what I thought was a tampon in her vajayjay but when I started pulling on it with the back of my dominant forefinger and the tip of my middle finger (pincer grip, comes in useful when exploring vaginas and you can exercise it to develop it) a scrunched up panita started to unfold. Has anyone here noticed how much panitas control my life? Hilarious, can I get a jajaja? I told her there was not enough room in her wet hole for the panita and my pollo so she jumped up and ran to the bathroom and pulled it out.
We had a prepaid in writing agreement on price. But Secret is Secret and we have a love-hate relationship as a result. Dealing with her is like putting a piece of cheddar cheese in front of a starving rat. You know what will happen next. I told her five times to send the girl alone and she showed up at my door with her. If I send her away, she will come back and knock on my door early more than once. She says she wants to stay and watch, and will keep her friend more relaxed. I don't want to pay extra for a three-way.
First encounters for me are a wash or a getting-to-know-you session. Things generally get hotter and heavier for me when the chica returns.
So Secret come in and watches, at times closely. We are fucked-up tussi by now and she tries to use this to her advantage. After a fantastic session, I gave Secret the money I had counted out earlier, the agreed amount to the peso.
She tired one of her oldest tricks which was to palm one of the cincuenta notes, and exchange it for a five. She pretended like she dropped some money under the bed to do it again but I wouldn't bite. First of all, I knew exactly what I handed her. Secondly, there were definitely no fives in the stack.
In fact, I was going to tip the girl fifty extra because she was hawter than fuk fuk fuk and a great performer. I fucked in three positions, with a condom, and we did oral in three positions without a condom. This was way more activity than I described before we met so she was definitely due an upcharge.
But then Secret for no real reason started her tricks again. I herded them both out the door. I kept the hotel guest card in my hand so the chica could not yet get to her cedula. Once they were out in the hall I retrieved a fifty from my safe, did one final review of my room for any thing out of place but my valuables were already in the safe. I then opened the door, they tried to push there way back in and I tossed her hotel pass and the cincuenta note over their heads, they turned and went for the stuff and I closed the door.
About an hour later, Secret texted me about my rudeness and said she knew that I loved her and hated her at the same time. I responded, guess which one I am feeling at this moment, and then I blocked her, where she remains now.
The play to me is obvious. I will keep her blocked for a week. Then I will contact her and tell her if she ever wants to see or talk to me again, she will send the chica over by herself like she was supposed to do last night. If she doesn't, that is easy for me to live with. I don't chasing waterfalls. No matter how hawt the chica, there is always another one waiting in the wings, in this market. But I will bet money, that she will cave before I do.
In the end, worth it, but aggravating.
Secret is bad and she knows it. Until recently she was my most requested girl. She acts like a porn star and has huge bow ties tattooed on the back of her thighs. I am not making excuses for her, but she can't help it. She is conditioned to behave the way she does. Starving rat. Cheddar cheese.
To that point, save yourself and me the time and trouble. . I have a personal policy of not sharing contact info. This developed over time and from experience. Basically, there is no upside for me, it's either a wash or a downside. Nothing personal. I have shared contact info with guys I met and have gotten to know, but I won't meet with random guys from the Internet for that purpose. I hope you understand. Keep On Keepin' On! Ostee Out.
Ostee Out.
For me, there is nothing wrong kissing girls in El Centro. The questions are used to show mongering in El Centro requires more adjustments. Fewer are able to go all in like Osteoknot or LIH69.Might depend on where your kissing them and perhaps licking them! LOL.
A few photos of your 9's and 10's working Lleras would be appreciated. Without photos I would call it BS, no offense.Yolu do not have any 9's and 10's. You are just overpaying for the same barrio girls that wise guys here get for 55 mil. And you come here week after and week pitching the same nonsense trying to make yourself feel better, but that's all it is, nonsense. Hopefully most here in the forum see that for what it is.
"High End" - it could be various things -.
* High price.
* Better looking.
* More make up / longer nails.
* More plastic.
* Voted for Hernandez.
* Can quote from Gabriel Garcia Marquez.
I have never met any that tick all 6 boxes."Low End"-it could be various things-.
* Low price.
*Ugly as dogshit.
*Purple or green dyed hair.
*Front teeth missing.
*Can't read or write.
I have met several that tick all 6 boxes.
I forgot to post them. No sleep last night. Obvio which 3 fotos she sent me ahead of time.
"High End" - it could be various things -.
* High price.
* Better looking.
* More make up / longer nails.
* More plastic.
* Voted for Hernandez.
* Can quote from Gabriel Garcia Marquez.
I have never met any that tick all 6 boxes.I think most of the girls I regularly see hit at least 5 of these lo (of course higher price!) l. I've had Marquez come up in more than a few conversations with my non-pro / semi-pro girls. The Colombians are very proud of him. I guess a Nobel Price helps. If you can drop a quote of his in Spanish the panties will drop right then and there!
I found a street girl in Manizales coffee region. Everything went well the first time. Tried to get her a second time but she was not interested it seemed. I made eye contact and nodded and walked away towards the hotel. I waited not far away in eye sight for 10 minutes but she kept talking to her friends. Tried two different days. Nearly a month later she approached me at Centro / Botero but I did not stop to chat because I could not remember who she was. Never saw her at Centro again. Month later saw her at Lleras Park. Tried to get her number but she said she had no phone which is BS since she had one in Manizales where she made little money. She found where she belonged. So I achieved the super impossible because I found a Lleras Park girl in three places. All bow please.Sorry no applause for that one, but you have brought something up as to how some girls migrate from place to place to make bank. I met a street girl in Santa Marta who now travels to Cartagena to work, and when I visited her last, she was talking with a friend about coming to Medellin to work. And she would fit right in at Lleras, however she decided not too come to MDE as she makes bank in CTG.
What about the ...There is a petite blonde at the intersection to the left of the ST hotel botero real. I think she can make it look wise, IMO she probably is in the top 20% of LLeras girls for mongers who like her type.
Mr Enternational
06-24-22, 03:41
Agree 100%. Too many guys say it's the exact same girls in Lleras as there are in El Centro, you just pay more in Lleras. That's only partially true. A girl who normally works El Centro will try to earn in Lleras if she can, but you're going to find very few, if any, girls who have regular success in Lleras at 200/250 k a pop decide to go back to working El Centro for 30/40 k a guy. They'd much rather take it easy and rest up for the night. Why wouldn't they? If a girl can last in Lleras (ie they get enough interest) I would assume they're typically better, at least in looks.You said the key words. Regular success. Because they go there and can strike every blue moon does not mean they make an everyday thing out of going there. That is like going to work on Christmas and getting a bonus and deciding to not work any other day that is not a holiday. They still know where their bread is buttered.
It is the same with these facebook chicks. Just because one punter gave them 500,000 does not mean they will from now on only rest up for the 500,000 guys and no longer go with guys for 150,000. They know their base is the 150,000 guy and the 500,000 guy is an occasional bonus.
DonMedellin
06-24-22, 04:17
Just a short walk from New Life, there are two casa located Carrera 45, one is #57-71, called Pamela's; other one is called Dulce Compania, #57-55. Has anyone been to these casas lately? How was your experience. I am leaving Medellin in a few weeks for a while, so would be down to try out some new spots. If anyone wants join, please DM.
LoveItHere69
06-24-22, 04:35
There are Centro girls that work Park Lleras but we are looking at roughly 5-7%. They make transport money at Centro and visit Lleras later. Inside the clubs I have no idea but can make an educated guess of a lot less like 1-2%.
Many girls are like me. They do not want to talk mindless crap and snuggle for hours on end or overnight that the Park Lleras guy customers want. The higher the price the more princess attitude comes into play meaning the girls demand less positions and demand a quick nut. Not all, just a higher percentage. Now let's look at it from the girls point of view. The Park Lleras customers are paying high prices so the guys want tons of positions, many nuts, and maybe too much kinky stuff. So in essence the Park Lleras guys are pain in the ass princes to them. Did not see that coming did ya? Sorry but we do not walk on water either.
Many Centro girls are hiding what they are doing which is much easier with a daytime versus a nighttime "job". I bet it is much easier to find a babysitter during the day than at night too. Also, many have boyfriends waiting for them at night.
So many cheap places to eat and drink while waiting for customers in Centro versus Park Lleras for the girls. Also, more friends to hangout with will waiting for customers which many times include their boyfriends.
If the girls are from Centro or further north up to Bello it is too costly in time and money to get to and from Lleras. I believe all the metro lines and buses stop at 11:00 pm. So if she goes with her friends and they find customers and she does not then she is in for a very expensive ride home. The taxi drivers can tell she is in the game and may pressure her for cheap services since late at night and she is all alone. Very scary for the girls.
Most girls are practically guaranteed a customer every 2-3 hours. Not so for the Lleras girls. They have to find the "one" because the Lleras boys are paying more and are thus more picky on who they take.
HoustonTxJake
06-24-22, 16:31
Just a short walk from New Life, there are two casa located Carrera 45, one is #57-71, called Pamela's; other one is called Dulce Compania, #57-55. Has anyone been to these casas lately? How was your experience. I am leaving Medellin in a few weeks for a while, so would be down to try out some new spots. If anyone wants join, please DM.O went by both of those casas about a month ago and they were both locked up tight.
Greatest Common Denominator and Least Common Denominator.
The best girls at both spots or GCD, are comparable at Lleras and Zero, minus the make-up, the nice clothes, and the plastic at Zero.
The worst girls or LCD are lower at Zero, and you won't find them at Lleras.
I think you nailed it. I can't confirm or deny the percentage since I don't frequent Lleras. I can confirm when I am there I see girls I know from Centro. I know a few Centro girls and they tell me they would like to earn 300 K and up but can't always put together taxi money or hang around Poblado until the first metro and buses start at 5 am All that aside, we must recognize it is worth the money to some to avoid having to leave Poblado. It's all good.
There are Centro girls that work Park Lleras but we are looking at roughly 5-7%. They make transport money at Centro and visit Lleras later. Inside the clubs I have no idea but can make an educated guess of a lot less like 1-2%.
Many girls are like me. They do not want to talk mindless crap and snuggle for hours on end or overnight that the Park Lleras guy customers want. The higher the price the more princess attitude comes into play meaning the girls demand less positions and demand a quick nut. Not all, just a higher percentage. Now let's look at it from the girls point of view. The Park Lleras customers are paying high prices so the guys want tons of positions, many nuts, and maybe too much kinky stuff. So in essence the Park Lleras guys are pain in the ass princes to them. Did not see that coming did ya? Sorry but we do not walk on water either.
Many Centro girls are hiding what they are doing which is much easier with a daytime versus a nighttime "job". I bet it is much easier to find a babysitter during the day than at night too. Also, many have boyfriends waiting for them at night.
Both those locations have been closed for years.
O went by both of those casas about a month ago and they were both locked up tight.
I am pretty sure I've never seen even one guy say "it's the exact same girls" in Lleras and Centro.
Agree 100%. Too many guys say it's the exact same girls in Lleras as there are in El Centro, you just pay more in Lleras. That's only partially true. A girl who normally works El Centro will try to earn in Lleras if she can, but you're going to find very few, if any, girls who have regular success in Lleras at 200/250 k a pop decide to go back to working El Centro for 30/40 k a guy. They'd much rather take it easy and rest up for the night. Why wouldn't they? If a girl can last in Lleras (ie they get enough interest) I would assume they're typically better, at least in looks.
I think the only guys that say the girls are the same are those that primarily focus in El Centro and see one of their girls at Lleras. I've rarely heard the other way around where a guy picks up a stunner in Lleras and the next day sees her on an El Centro street corner.
When I was negotiating with Secret over Sweetie Pie, I told her with condom for fucking and bareback for oral.
She replied, "Of course, darling. You know we always do it that way. Would I ask you to suck her breasts while she was wearing a bra?
I like it.
Oh, and I added a foto of what I described as the "pincer grip" in my previous post, used for removing unwanted foreign objects from pussy. You can exercise this grip to make it stronger.
This is spot on. Guys who have not been to one location or the other can use this information to decide whether it's worth their time to experience the location they have not visited and see for themselves.
Greatest Common Denominator and Least Common Denominator.
The best girls at both spots or GCD, are comparable at Lleras and Zero, minus the make-up, the nice clothes, and the plastic at Zero.
The worst girls or LCD are lower at Zero, and you won't find them at Lleras.
When I was negotiating with Secret over Sweetie Pie, I told her with condom for fucking and bareback for oral.
She replied, "Of course, darling. You know we always do it that way. Would I ask you to suck her breasts while she was wearing a bra?
I like it.
Oh, and I added a foto of what I described as the "pincer grip" in my previous post, used for removing unwanted foreign objects from pussy. You can exercise this grip to make it stronger.Is that an IUD you pulled out there bro? 😆.
I hate when they have foreign objects like tampons or IUDs stuffed inside the pussy. I usually make them take it out or if they won't take it out I'll opt for anal. I prefer when they have the IUD type device in their arm as opposed to in their cucas.
-Gabacho.
...So in essence the Park Lleras guys are pain in the ass princes to them. Did not see that coming did ya? Sorry but we do not walk on water either....My observation is different, I think these customers are easy, that is why some girls, the ones I encountered anyway, offered limited service and limited time. I think these customers are similar to La Isla customers, and the same thing happened in La Isla, higher price with simple (limited) service.
.. The taxi drivers can tell she is in the game and may pressure her for cheap services since late at night and she is all alone. Very scary for the girls...Many FB girls live in Bello and they do exactly what you described, I have never heard it happened before, at least it is not common.
Is that an IUD you pulled out there bro?
I hate when they have foreign objects like tampons or IUDs stuffed inside the pussy. I usually make them take it out or if they won't take it out I'll opt for anal. I prefer when they have the IUD type device in their arm as opposed to in their cucas.
-Gabacho.Fishing line, a the opening of the cervix deeper inside. I you dig acournd deep enough, you will find the cervix, it feels like a rubbery nob, about as hard as the tip of your nose.
On the other hand, this was clearly a folded up toalla humeda or panito outside the uterus, in the vaginal vault. And she did not stop my from trying to remove it. She noticed a couple of drops of blood earlier and was just using the panito as a last-minute barrier.
LoveItHere69
06-24-22, 21:00
Many FB girls live in Bello and they do exactly what you described, I have never heard it happened before, at least it is not common.Not comparing apples to apples. Park Lleras girls would be considered high end street girls and not FB girls. The taxi driver can get a good ideal based on where he is picking them up at and time of night. Just put one and one together. Latino guys are more aggressive towards the girls than most the foreigners visiting. The girls will not tell you if she paid for the taxi ride plus a little money with sex. Just like most foreigners will not brag about being robbed.
FB girls, Lleras girls, casa, and Centro girls are different animals. They cross at boundaries at times but mostly stay in their lane. Same as the FB hunters, two week millionaires in Poblado, casa lovers, and street rats cross segments at times but mostly stay in their lane.
Some guys wear rose-colored glasses, while I may have tunned vision, jajajaja. I definitely do not have the enough experience at Poblado to continue, so I am going to beg off this thread.Way for me to take a good allegory about observer bias and ruin it on the spot, geez. I swear I proofread that statement five times before I hit Upload Report. It is just me or does sometime it seem like the spell checker here changes things after you submit? Don't answer what we already know. It's me. Jajaja.
You said the key words. Regular success. Because they go there and can strike every blue moon does not mean they make an everyday thing out of going there. That is like going to work on Christmas and getting a bonus and deciding to not work any other day that is not a holiday. They still know where their bread is buttered.
It is the same with these facebook chicks. Just because one punter gave them 500,000 does not mean they will from now on only rest up for the 500,000 guys and no longer go with guys for 150,000. They know their base is the 150,000 guy and the 500,000 guy is an occasional bonus.Another issue which comes into play is if they have someone to go with. If a Centro girl has a friend working Lleras, she's more likely to try Lleras. However, many won't make the move without someone to hold their hand until they get comfortable there.
It's the same with many mongers going to El Centro. They won't go without a wingman who knows the area. However, if they get a few accompanied trips, with some good finds, then they're more likely to try El Centro solo.
Is that an IUD you pulled out there bro?
I hate when they have foreign objects like tampons or IUDs stuffed inside the pussy. I usually make them take it out or if they won't take it out I'll opt for anal. I prefer when they have the IUD type device in their arm as opposed to in their cucas.
-Gabacho.Just a clarification. If it's in the arm, it's not an IUD.
My observation is different, I think these customers are easy, that is why some girls, the ones I encountered anyway, offered limited service and limited time. I think these customers are similar to La Isla customers, and the same thing happened in La Isla, higher price with simple (limited) service.
Many FB girls live in Bello and they do exactly what you described, I have never heard it happened before, at least it is not common.Quite a few of the girls, FB and others, have 1 or more preferred drivers they regularly use. I assume some charge a flat, reasonable rate and some have negotiated payment in other ways.
That is an issue for El Centro girls because they are able to use the Metro and don't need that 2 am driver. Lleras also lacks the many convenient, cheap ST rooms of El Centro. It's a different style of hooking.
Oh, and I added a foto of what I described as the "pincer grip" in my previous post, used for removing unwanted foreign objects from pussy. You can exercise this grip to make it stronger.And had nothing to do with what I found in her pussy. My wording could've been better.
Hey everyone.
I am here in Medellin for the next 12 days and was able to sample this girl after seeing her in a YouTube video. 40,000 COP basic service but no complaints here.
Give her a try!From random shots without their knowledge, not cool.
Tonight I booked Ayenda 1258 Boutique Hotel as it had good reviews on google, 4. 4 of 5. How the hell are doing the ratings? It must be a bunch of midgets. The rooms are like a shoebox and when I lay on the bed shoulder to shoulder I cover 3/4 of the width. I hade to ask the owners if it was really a double room and bed, they confirmed. For the same money in RIO I get a decent hotel room with breakfast and you do not have to sleep with your feet out the window to fit. I am no Shaquille O'Neal type, 1. 86 cm.
She was a Candy Girl in Ground Zero. She ran up to me and was very seductive as I entered the area, she was my first contact. Looked good, smelled good, acted right, so I took the bait. Beautiful face, in a soft, girl-next-door, way. Damn near purrfekt body.
We got my usual room on the second floor overlooking the Church. Booked an hour and we agreed upon 70 after I told her the various things I planned on doing to her body. I like to get any of the open-ended up stuff settled before I start with these Ground Zero girls, otherwise they will try to haggle you to death. She loved the pink stuff.
Great start and body of session. No condom, dancing, oral both ways, I was on my second position fucking her in doggy style when suddenly it happened. She peed all over me. This wasn't a "squirt" or anything other than her attempt to stop the session, and it worked. She was not orgasming, nothing changed in her posturing or sound or breathing except suddenly there was pee running down both my inner thighs. I was going to keep railing on her to spite her but when the pee started to get near my ankles, my socks, and my new snakeskin Adidas, I pulled out.
I gave her a WTF, Scooby Doo look, threw the agreed upon money on the bed and asked her nicely to leave. We had about ten minutes left on the clock so I got my money's worth but I didn't like the way it ended. She asked me for more tussi, no. She asked for more money, Hell noooo. She asked for my Whassap number. No.
I think what happened was she was continuously trying to upsell me during the sex, to bareback fucking and orgasm, but I was edging for a later date and didn't care and kept saying no until finally I had to tell her "Deja de hablar" or stop talking. I was going at her pretty good in doggy for a couple of minutes when she peed on me, I think her way of controlling the stop point on the session. I think she regretted if after she did it because of the way I shut her down, but so what. Move onto the next girl, next time.
RiceRocket, you California-Chino-Spanish-speaking-Stud. For that Sex-Den condo you got goin'on high in sky in one of my favorite sections of Medellin. You're probably two-steps ahead of me on this one, bro, but a couple of strategically placed bombillos de disco and it takes the encounters to another level. What you may have thought couldn't get any better, will. I stake my reputation on it. Oopsi, I guess that would ruin it, jajajaja. Fotos of my ceiling with two such lights on.
Sorry for the crappy looking fotos lately. There are a few of the disco lights on my ceiling. My burner phone and almost no low-light capablilities. I think the devolved technology of my cheap phone has focused my attention more during my point and shoots, and it feels like my comoposition has improved. So there is somewhat of a trade-off going on.
The two fotos of white pussy and ass, and of me trying to climb in, belong to Managerette. She owns a 23 year-old, ultra low mileage pussy that hasn't been fucked in a couple of years. She gave me her first handjob to orgasm and it was surprisingly good but that makes sense. She has only done sex in a missionary position prior with her old boyfriend, never oral. But I forgot about handjobs and she was obviously experienced there, mainly as shown by her grips and she didn't go too light.
Scarlet is scheduled next. This will be our first meeting since the incident. She is getting kicked out of her aparment on Monday because I stopped paying the rent. She was my former Number Two for about a year.
She keeps telling me she is desperate for money so I told her she could come over for a session at Fair Market Value. 150 for one hour, 200 for 2 hours, and 40 for taxi, she lives half-way to Bello. That is how I treat all the girls nearer the bottom of my List, say 6-10. One of the many benefits of working off a List is we know each other well so little time is wasted. And they know they can leave when they want and they almost always stay longer, sometimes much longer.
Ostee Out, now back to Keepin' On Keepin' On.
From random shots without their knowledge, not cool.If the photo is from YouTube, which it obviously is, he's not displaying anything that isn't already well displayed.
Just a clarification. If it's in the arm, it's not an IUD.Reread what I wrote.
I said "IUD TYPE device" obviously if it's in the arm it is not an inner-uterine device. But it is a similar type of metal v shaped thing that they have implanted under the skin in their arms.
Just a clarification. If it's in the arm, it's not an IUD.Could work, Jejeje.
... suddenly there was pee running down both my inner thighs. I was going to keep railing on her to spite her but when the pee started to get near my ankles, my socks, and my new snakeskin Adidas
...Another reason to wear flip-flopes or sandals, then you will be unstoppable.
If the photo is from YouTube, which it obviously is, he's not displaying anything that isn't already well displayed.I am not going to get into a lengthy debate. There 's a big difference in posting your own pic on You Tube or wherever you choose and then someone else taking your foto and using it in the context he did, if that is even what happened, doesn't matter. A lot of these girls would not want to be associated with Pay for Play, and even if they don't care, it's not our call. You may certainly have the last word on this thread. The point I am making is immutable.
I know there are a lot of guys who would not agree with me. I would put their viewpoint more on the Neanderthal way of thinking on this issue, then, jajajaja. Be careful, this exact shit can come back and cause problems for you in ways you have not considered. I've experienced it a couple of times and it was not pleasant, and I was even using fotos that were censored of redacted so their identity did not show. And the shit still hit the fan.
Tonight I booked Ayenda 1258 Boutique Hotel as it had good reviews on google, 4. 4 of 5. How the hell are doing the ratings?...There is already a review describing it is very small and pictures are not real. You are making generalization based on one cheap hotel. You need to compare similar hotels in similar areas.
Not comparing apples to apples. Park Lleras girls would be considered high end street girls and not FB girls. The taxi driver can get a good ideal based on where he is picking them up at and time of night. Just put one and one together. Latino guys are more aggressive towards the girls than most the foreigners visiting. The girls will not tell you if she paid for the taxi ride plus a little money with sex. Just like most foreigners will not brag about being robbed.
FB girls, Lleras girls, casa, and Centro girls are different animals. They cross at boundaries at times but mostly stay in their lane. Same as the FB hunters, two week millionaires in Poblado, casa lovers, and street rats cross segments at times but mostly stay in their lane.I am not comparing girls. Just one specific example, a girl gets a date and goes to the monger's place. After finish, the monger or she calls a taxi to go home. That basically is what a FB girl will do, what is the difference?
I am not saying what you said won't happen. Just that we never heard about it. I have stayed walking distance to the park with girls coming and going. Never once was girl nervous about taking taxi or Uber. Often it is more difficult to get a car late, but 25 or 30 mil InDriver usually can get a car quickly.
Reread what I wrote.
I said "IUD TYPE device" obviously if it's in the arm it is not an inner-uterine device. But it is a similar type of metal v shaped thing that they have implanted under the skin in their arms.I re-read it. The implant in the arm or elsewhere isn't an IUD type device. The IUD is Gandalf for the uterus. It blocks the path and tells the sperm "You shall not pass. " The implant is a union boss who gets the ovaries to go on strike and stop egg production.
Captain Solo
06-25-22, 06:17
Spike.
There are literally over a hundred street girls hanging out in that area behind the Vera Cruz church. You must have liked her looks a lot to remember her from Youtube and were able to find he among thousands people milling around in that area. She's chunky and not all that pretty. There are hundreds street girls in Medellin, almost 95% are chunky, fat, short or skanky. I would never fly 15 hours just for that level of beauty, but I did find a couple hot young girls behind the church.
I found Vennies aggressive, potentially drugging and robbing you of all valuables. Colombianas tend to be easy-going, nice, sweet, gentle.
Santa Fe in Bogota is crowded and lively with street and club scenes all night, lots of hot girls, some even look stunning. The area may appear sketchy but a lot of taxis drive around those few small blocks and you can always hop in one to go back to your hotel. Only about half a mile East of Santa Fe is the Candelria district with a major shopping street where thousands people walk, shop, eat at night. It's about 3 mile long, ending at the huge Central government plaza with the national cathedral. Candeleria also has the old town with old houses, cobble stones streets and the small church plaza where Indian peasants proclaim Colombia's independence from Spain. Lots of hot back packing girls stay in hostels in this area.
Bogota is good for immersing in Colombia's culture, history, food, drinks, sights. Next time I would stay in the Cadeleria district and arrange dates with SBs or Tinder. I can always walk to Santa Fe and find hot girls all night, not possible in Medellin.
Just a short walk from New Life, there are two casa located Carrera 45, one is #57-71, called Pamela's; other one is called Dulce Compania, #57-55. Has anyone been to these casas lately? How was your experience. I am leaving Medellin in a few weeks for a while, so would be down to try out some new spots. If anyone wants join, please DM.As far as Pamela's #57-71 it was not in business anymore, but Dulce#57-55 still open and not that great. Your better off with one on the street behind it Club de Amigas Sexy Carrera 45 d # 57-67.
Spike.
There are literally over a hundred street girls hanging out in that area behind the Vera Cruz church. You must have liked her looks a lot to remember her from Youtube and were able to find he among thousands people milling around in that area. She's chunky and not all that pretty. There are hundreds street girls in Medellin, almost 95% are chunky, fat, short or skanky. I would never fly 15 hours just for that level of beauty, but I did find a couple hot young girls behind the church.
I found Vennies aggressive, potentially drugging and robbing you of all valuables. Colombianas tend to be easy-going, nice, sweet, gentle.
Santa Fe in Bogota is crowded and lively with street and club scenes all night, lots of hot girls, some even look stunning. The area may appear sketchy but a lot of taxis drive around those few small blocks and you can always hop in one to go back to your hotel. Only about half a mile East of Santa Fe is the Candelria district with a major shopping street where thousands people walk, shop, eat at night. It's about 3 mile long, ending at the huge Central government plaza with the national cathedral. Candeleria also has the old town with old houses, cobble stones streets and the small church plaza where Indian peasants proclaim Colombia's independence from Spain. Lots of hot back packing girls stay in hostels in this area.
Bogota is good for immersing in Colombia's culture, history, food, drinks, sights. Next time I would stay in the Cadeleria district and arrange dates with SBs or Tinder. I can always walk to Santa Fe and find hot girls all night, not possible in Medellin.Is it really as black and white as you painted the picture in comparison to Bogota? I have only been to Medellin once but from what I recall the girls in Medellin were younger and prettier.
So I landed in MDE at 12 am today because my flight was delayed by an hour. After an hour of migration I make it to my hotel near Lleras. I'm literally the only person in this hotel LOL.
The taxi guy was talking a lot. Explained a lot of the places in Medellin. Charged me 160 mil gave him 200 so he could stop talking. Yea I know it's too much it should be 100 mil.
I'm learning alright?
So I put my stuff in my room and head to Lleras. First time seeing street walkers in my life let alone that many. I'm from NYC all these girls look like normal girls maybe slightly better. But I can't get any of them in NYC but that's my fault.
After walking the block like 10 times I hop into a random taxi to go to la Isla mind you it is 2 in the morning.
The taxi guy is nice. He lectures me about paying too much for taxis and charges me 8 mil I give him 10. I just don't care about change tonight.
50 cover for la Isla. The dude pats me up.
I walk in. A lot of nice girls. So many naked women and I don't feel anything LOL.
I just stand around edges looking. I go to the bar in the back exchange 40 mil to 2 mil bills. I go back to the edges and there is a decent girl next to me. I ask her hey how does this work and she says if I want to have sex I'm like ok. She holds my hand and takes me to the bar. 350 mil for 30 minutes small room which is pretty nice. Shower toilet bed. 500 mil for 40 minutes big suite. I chose the small room. Pretty worth.
This is my first time having sex. She gets undressed. She only had a bikini like most other girls there. I get undress we get in the shower. I didn't expect women to be so soft LOL.
She gives blowjob with the condom on. She goes into doggy. And we do bunch of other positions. We were kissing too.
I didn't feel anything. I was just smiling the entire time. Like. "This is what sex is?
We go for like 20 minutes or something and I'm like ok I had enough. So I told her that's it and she's surprised but she's ok with it. We talk for a little bit. We exchange numbers. And we walk out back to the main club.
I sit down in I'm empty white benches far across from the bar close to where the girls change and there is a bathroom for them.
I'm just reflecting on the experience I just had. By this time everyone is leaving because it is 3:30 and the la isla closes at 4.
I'm like it's time to go back to Lleras. I go back the taxi charges me like 30 mil I give him 50 mil he gives me back 10 mil I'm like whatever and leave.
I'm in Lleras talking up towards deep 9. I pass it and some dude stops me I usually do t stop for people but this guy was to the point. Do you want girls? He's a promoter for la Isla and gustos. We talk for a bit he gives me his contact. Sends me videos and pictures of girls. I happen to know one of them LOL. We're going to have a talk jejeje.
I went to Provenza. Only thing I have to day is "interesting" for now.
I get some salchipapas. Not that good. Maybe it was just the place.
I'm back info of gustos and I'm about to throw my papas in the garbage when a homeless man asks for my papas I give it to him and he seems really happy. I didn't realize poverty was really bad. Sadness.
It's like 4:30 and I'm walking down past hotel Dix. Looking at the street walkers. I get to a point where this one little tiny paisa is trying to get me to have sex with her touching me up all of a sudden and getting all in my space (sexual harrasment). I don't want anything to do with her so I just leave and don't say anything. I just walk the other way up to my hotel.
This is the story for now. At the en I'm going to make a summary of all my reports. Tomorrow I think I'm getting a cam girl if not. I'm going to loutron.
Peace.
And had nothing to do with what I found in her pussy. My wording could've been better.WTF is that in the photo you found! That was inside her snatch? Is that something we should be concerned about in future encounters? I want to know if I should do a thorough sweep rather than a blind probe.
Spike.
There are literally over a hundred street girls hanging out in that area behind the Vera Cruz church. You must have liked her looks a lot to remember her from Youtube and were able to find he among thousands people milling around in that area. She's chunky and not all that pretty. There are hundreds street girls in Medellin, almost 95% are chunky, fat, short or skanky. I would never fly 15 hours just for that level of beauty, but I did find a couple hot young girls behind the church.
I found Vennies aggressive, potentially drugging and robbing you of all valuables. Colombians tend to be easy-going, nice, sweet, gentle.
Santa Fe in Bogota is crowded and lively with street and club scenes all night, lots of hot girls, some even look stunning. The area may appear sketchy but a lot of taxis drive around those few small blocks and you can always hop in one to go back to your hotel. Only about half a mile East of Santa Fe is the Candelria district with a major shopping street where thousands people walk, shop, eat at night. It's about 3 mile long, ending at the huge Central government plaza with the national cathedral. Candeleria also has the old town with old houses, cobble stones streets and the small church plaza where Indian peasants proclaim Colombia's independence from Spain. Lots of hot back packing girls stay in hostels in this area.
Bogota is good for immersing in Colombia's culture, history, food, drinks, sights. Next time I would stay in the Cadeleria district and arrange dates with SBs or Tinder. I can always walk to Santa Fe and find hot girls all night, not possible in Medellin.That last paragraph is the absolute truth. It's not possible to stay in Medellin and walk to Santa Fe in Bogota in the same night.
Any city in Colombia is good for immersing yourself in Colombian culture. However, most travelers only have time to immerse themselves in Colombian cooter.
Is it really as black and white as you painted the picture in comparison to Bogota? I have only been to Medellin once but from what I recall the girls in Medellin were younger and prettier.For many people it is black and white. One city is Nirvana, the next is hell on earth. In my opinion that makes their reviews almost worthless. I'll explain.
The only part of a review which is of any value to others is the objective part. For example, "high temperature today was 83° and it was partly cloudy with a slight breeze. " That's objective. You can read that and decide how the weather was. However, "it was unbearably hot" is subjective. If the person lives in Nome, Alaska, his idea of unbearably hot is different than the guy who lives in Phoenix.
Bogota is a much larger city than Medellin and Santa Fe is different from El Centro. Santa Fe has more options than El Centro, especially late night. Bogota has a lot of museums located in a small area, whereas Medellin has the culture spread over a much larger area.
Each city has it's own flavor and each should be appreciated for itself, not in comparison with another city.
She peed all over me. This wasn't a "squirt" or anything other than her attempt to stop the session, and it worked. She was not orgasming, nothing changed in her posturing or sound or breathing except suddenly there was pee running down both my inner thighs. , my socks, and my new snakeskin Adidas, I pulled out.
.Sry, I am failing to see the problem here. You don't mind a bit of shlt on iuur knob, but pee is off limits? Its ok when the shlt hits the fan, but not the pee?
She's chunky and not all that pretty.
I found Vennies aggressive, potentially drugging and robbing you of all valuables. Colombianas tend to be easy-going, nice, sweet, gentle.
.To me she looks like the type of girl that might have a surprise package. You could fuck her and be fucked by her.
I find Vnzlznas to be more humble, educated and easy going than Colombianas. Qute the opposite to what you say. I guess that demonstrates the use of anecdotal evidence. Hehe.
Is it really as black and white as you painted the picture in comparison to Bogota? I have only been to Medellin once but from what I recall the girls in Medellin were younger and prettier.He got laughed off the Medellin board before, he will do it again without an extra help from us. He is a font of misinformation and misdirection. For some strange reason, he has a bone to pick about Medellin and he feels like it's his mission in life to let everyone know about it. He is doing us a favor if he keeps others, especially himself, away from Medellin, if you are looking at Supply and Demand. Stand back and enjoy the show.
I was on my second position fucking her in doggy style when suddenly it happened. She peed all over me. This wasn't a "squirt" or anything other than her attempt to stop the session, and it worked. She was not orgasming, nothing changed in her posturing or sound or breathing except suddenly there was pee running down both my inner thighs. I was going to keep railing on her to spite her but when the pee started to get near my ankles, my socks, and my new snakeskin Adidas, I pulled out..Highly unlikely she pissed on you to end the session, she sounds like a squirter, and was able to hide being aroused. Or, you really pissed her off, so much, that she pissed on you. LOL.
And hopefully the Snakeskin shoes didn't get to wet with the urine soaking into your socks before getting to your shoes assuming that you were wearing your socks and shoes at the time while getting hosed, and what about your pants? LOL.
They go with my recent "best black girl" post. I am clueless as to the issue, if there is any, why the fotos won't post.
in comparison to Bogota? I have only been to Medellin once but from what I recall the girls in Medellin were younger and prettier.Do you think that the people of MDE have lived in evolutionary isolation, separated from BOG for 1000's of years? If that were true, then I would accept that the girls of MDE are pretty and not in fact exactly the same in looks.
I'm from NYC all these girls look like normal girls maybe slightly better. But I can't get any of them in NYC but that's my fault.
This is my first time having sex. I didn't expect women to be so soft LOL.
I didn't feel anything. I was just smiling the entire time. Like. "This is what sex is?I don't know whether to applaud your candor, or laugh at the great joke you could be playing on us. If you are being serious, my mind is kind of blown as to what it would be like to experience sex for the first time in Medellin. By all means, keep us updated, if for no other reason than the excellent entertainment value. I hope your story is true, I guess.
BTW, solo curioso, how old are you?
NeilGeorge
06-25-22, 17:26
Do you think that the people of MDE have lived in evolutionary isolation, separated from BOG for 1000's of years? If that were true, then I would accept that the girls of MDE are pretty and not in fact exactly the same in looks.Mde had Spanish blood interbred, they looked for gold. Bogota was native indigenous with little Spanish heritage.
Do you think that the people of MDE have lived in evolutionary isolation, separated from BOG for 1000's of years? If that were true, then I would accept that the girls of MDE are pretty and not in fact exactly the same in looks.Girls being younger is especially funny.
There may be a somewhat different ethnic mix among those from the area around Medellin compared to the areas around Bogota. There was a lot of isolation over the period of a couple of hundred years, and the Europeans that originally settled the area of Antioquia are from different parts of Europe than those in the Bogota area. So the "average" appearance may be slightly different, but only slightly I think. And of the few thousand people that lived in the area say 400 years ago it is not likely that a significant portion of the 1. 5 million or so now descended from those original settlers and native people that lived there.
So I landed in MDE at 12 am today because my flight was delayed by an hour...You need to be careful letting people touching you in the tourist area. I don't want to spoil your fun by giving you suggestion based on your report. Enjoy your new experience
Not comparing apples to apples. Park Lleras girls would be considered high end street girls and not FB girls. The taxi driver can get a good ideal based on where he is picking them up at and time of night. Just put one and one together. Latino guys are more aggressive towards the girls than most the foreigners visiting. The girls will not tell you if she paid for the taxi ride plus a little money with sex. Just like most foreigners will not brag about being robbed.
FB girls, Lleras girls, casa, and Centro girls are different animals. They cross at boundaries at times but mostly stay in their lane. Same as the FB hunters, two week millionaires in Poblado, casa lovers, and street rats cross segments at times but mostly stay in their lane.Funny about needing to make categories and get worked up over it. I think the gals are basically the same, the gals on FB use that, other social media, hang out at Gustos sometimes, work the street sometimes, and may even work centro sometimes. The few I know all do at least 2 or 3 of these options.
The Parque Lleras ones can be really low end, don't kid yourself. Or high end perhaps, but I've never met one I would consider high end. Basically I assume them to be more dangerous by far than street gals anywhere else, because Lleras is where you go if you want to find an easy target with money. So LoveItHere might consider them high end, I certainly don't. I just consider them something to avoid. Mostly.
Street gals in centro can be anything. They are probably not there to target gringos, so if they do it will only be because they get the opportunity. But again, not my cup of tea.
As for mongers and providers staying in their lanes. They all just do what they find works. And that can change by the day. FB gals that have large followings and work it hard probably do best with their facebook customer base, but they may stop in at Gustos on the way home after a date, or walk through Lleras, or have a drink at a bar somewhere. Always working it.
Girls being younger is especially funny.
.Hehe. Yeah I didn't spot that. It could be true. Maybe the girls in Bogota go from being, say 14 years old to 25 overnight. That would explain it. No wonder they are so religious in Colombia.
Very good report from a new guy . You serious? Read it again. I think he is clearly trolling.
You serious? Read it again. I think he is clearly trolling.Maybe so, but he is doing a good job as it mostly matches my experience. Which part is different from your experience?
In a way, your response is doing what Captain is doing.
Captain Solo
06-25-22, 18:47
Many Youtubes show girls working the streets in Medellin and Bogota. You can figure out the quality of street girls in those cities. In lawful and civilized countries, people are allowed to record sights and sounds in public places. Photo and video are taken all over Botero Plaza by tourists but the putas may make a scene if they are recorded.
Spike flew 5,000 miles to Colombia and has 12 days. Knowing the types of girls he likes, he should be able to find many street girls in Santa Fe matching his taste.
Another bro and I spent 5 days in Bogota, walking all over the city from North to South, sampling club girls. Casa girls, street girls. Lots of girls work the streets all day and late at night. This pic was taken in a small bar in Santa Fe where we were chilling with a couple girls, drinking $1 beers. Street girls did not look any older or worse than club girls and we don't have to pay high prices for beers and sex. In fact, I found many hot slim, pretty young girls on the streets, attractive enough that can get me aroused and pop 4 or 5 times a night, but the only slim girl I found worth doing in the most popular Fiebre night club one night turned out to be transsexual with a loud, deep, horribly broken voice.
The bro speaks fluent Spanish and has been in Bogota many times. He likes to take a 3-hour bus ride to Villavicencio for the slower, more relaxed atmosphere and companies of sweeter, prettier small-town Colombianas. I would try that experience in my next visit.
The same night another bro got a deal with a cute street girl, a couple hours of BB sex in his apartment for $10. Street girls selection is a lot better in Santa Fe day and night, even in early morning. Expect Colombia's new socialist president Gustavo Pietro to clamp down on prostitution the same way like Cuba. So enjoy it before it's gone.
Mr Enternational
06-25-22, 19:08
the only slim girl I found worth doing in the most popular Fiebre night club one night turned out to be transsexual I was about to ask who the 3 guys in the picture were but I guess that explains it.
Maybe so, but he is doing a good job as it mostly matches my experience. Which part is different from your experience?
In a way, your response is doing what Captain is doing.Not sure whi captain is or what he is doing. But this guy seems to be trying to provoke response by hitting all the key talking points. And when he said he s a virgin. Well. Thats when I turned from skeptical to cynical.
BTW, its just my suspicion. You can take it or leave it. Maybe ur correct. *Smile*
Many Youtubes show girls working the streets in Medellin and Bogota. You can figure out the quality of street girls in those cities. In lawful and civilized countries, people are allowed to record sights and sounds in public places. Photo and video are taken all over Botero Plaza by tourists but the putas may make a scene if they are recorded.
Spike flew 5,000 miles to Colombia and has 12 days. Knowing the types of girls he likes, he should be able to find many street girls in Santa Fe matching his taste.
Expect Colombia's new socialist president Gustavo Pietro to clamp down on prostitution the same way like Cuba. So enjoy it before it's gone.Show me the part in Das Kapital where Marx writes that prostitution should be banned? Indeed, show me the part that authoritarian governance is required.
Maybe they will unionise, that would be funny. Maybe start a minimum wage / fee. And introduce an app like indriver where you can make an offer and they can bid or not. Now that would be a great socialist outcome.
We had the youtube discussion not long ago here. When I related what several girls told me about their displeasure at appearing in unauthorized youtube productions by thirsty punters in search of clickbait revenue, it was suggested that its highly unlikely their friends or family would see them an bring it to their attention. As I wrote, I don't see a reason girls would lie about it.
I am not going to get into a lengthy debate. There 's a big difference in posting your own pic on You Tube or wherever you choose and then someone else taking your foto and using it in the context he did, if that is even what happened, doesn't matter. A lot of these girls would not want to be associated with Pay for Play, and even if they don't care, it's not our call. You may certainly have the last word on this thread. The point I am making is immutable.
I know there are a lot of guys who would not agree with me. I would put their viewpoint more on the Neanderthal way of thinking on this issue, then, jajajaja. Be careful, this exact shit can come back and cause problems for you in ways you have not considered. I've experienced it a couple of times and it was not pleasant, and I was even using fotos that were censored of redacted so their identity did not show. And the shit still hit the fan.
I think Gustavo Petro and the late Fidel Castro have less in common than they don't. If I put that aside and concede hypothetically they are the same person, I wonder what you think Colombia and Cuba have in common (economically, geographically, demographically, or in terms of foreign relations) that causes you to conclude a crackdown is imminent. This is a serious question in the interest of understanding something that has me utterly confused.
Many Youtubes show girls working the streets in Medellin and Bogota. You can figure out the quality of street girls in those cities. In lawful and civilized countries, people are allowed to record sights and sounds in public places. Photo and video are taken all over Botero Plaza by tourists but the putas may make a scene if they are recorded.
Spike flew 5,000 miles to Colombia and has 12 days. Knowing the types of girls he likes, he should be able to find many street girls in Santa Fe matching his taste.
Another bro and I spent 5 days in Bogota, walking all over the city from North to South, sampling club girls. Casa girls, street girls. Lots of girls work the streets all day and late at night. This pic was taken in a small bar in Santa Fe where we were chilling with a couple girls, drinking $1 beers. Street girls did not look any older or worse than club girls and we don't have to pay high prices for beers and sex. In fact, I found many hot slim, pretty young girls on the streets, attractive enough that can get me aroused and pop 4 or 5 times a night, but the only slim girl I found worth doing in the most popular Fiebre night club one night turned out to be transsexual with a loud, deep, horribly broken voice.
The bro speaks fluent Spanish and has been in Bogota many times. He likes to take a 3-hour bus ride to Villavicencio for the slower, more relaxed atmosphere and companies of sweeter, prettier small-town Colombians. I would try that experience in my next visit.
The same night another bro got a deal with a cute street girl, a couple hours of BB sex in his apartment for $10. Street girls selection is a lot better in Santa Fe day and night, even in early morning. Expect Colombia's new socialist president Gustavo Pietro to clamp down on prostitution the same way like Cuba. So enjoy it before it's gone.
Highly unlikely she pissed on you to end the session, she sounds like a squirter, and was able to hide being aroused. Or, you really pissed her off, so much, that she pissed on you. LOL.
And hopefully the Snakeskin shoes didn't get to wet with the urine soaking into your socks before getting to your shoes assuming that you were wearing your socks and shoes at the time while getting hosed, and what about your pants? LOL.You never fucked a girl before wearing shoes and socks only and no pants? I needed the traction on the floor maybe because we were doing doggy at bedside on who knows, I don't remember exactly how or why I get into certain positions and predicaments. Only that it happened.
That's one reason my Adidas track pants are part of my mongering uniform, they are super easy and quick to slip in and out of. And your dayum straight I am not going to let any bodily fluid from another human's orifice knowingly touch these Adidas snakeskin sneakers.
You can imply that I should have better things to post about, but I don't mind giving dally reports when I am here. I know my audience, and they would sort of be the opposite of what you represent. Let's just say they are not frequent posters, like you, or me.
I am guessing for the bargain basement prices you stick to, that your sessions are probably minimalistc repeated rituals that would not be too much fun to read about, I can understand that. Which is why we probably virtually never hear about them here on ISG. Whatever works for you, or me.
Tell me, I am sure you have it figured out ahead of time. How many 30 mil COP fucks do you have to do before you can go out and afford one of your fine dining fotos? What's the ratio? 5:1? 10:1? Jajajjajajajajaaaaa.
My main current issue is I am using my crappy burner phone camera, and I am not sure what I am going to do about improving the quality of my fotos, in the short term. You may certainly have the last word on this measly thread, if needed. I don't know why I bothered to respond in the first place, so we are aleady heavy one post.
NeilGeorge
06-25-22, 20:45
The only slim girl I found worth doing in the most popular Fiebre night club one night turned out to be transsexual with a loud, deep, horribly broken voice.
Watch out: usually they have a large adam's apple and are taller, with aggressive personalities.
If the girl at la Isla yesterday was a 6 or 7 at la Isla we are seeing 9 and 10's.
I was mad tired because I went to sleep at 5 am. Woke up at 10. Got some coffee at Juan Valdez cafe then I went walking around looking for my next hotel. An automatic car for rent is around 50 dollars a day.
There's a shawarma place going from parque lleras to parque poblado. Met some cool dudes from Colorado and Texas. We see eye to eye went it comes to the sex situation being bad in the states. And a complete reversal here in Colombia.
So again I was mad tired but I still went to loutron. Couldn't find a taxi in near Provenza up from Lleras on like calle 10 so I called uber. Very good. I def recommend very cheap very to the point. 13 k with tip to go from Provenza to loutron.
Let me tell this shit is on a mountain. So many curves up and down that mountain. Loutron is very hidden. The gate is open you will see it if you know what you're looking for. Very legit place. Security up the wazoo. They all communicate with walkie-talkie. I got there like at 2:00 pm.
Waited like 30 minutes for the girls. Kinda my fault because I chose a waiting area in the back and I looked like I was sleeping. Like 10 girls came out. 8 -10 all of them. I pick Valentina. She has big fake boobs and a big nice booty. She's paisa back hair. She is a ten in my book.
350 mil cop for 1 hour. 30 mil propina. (Optional and amount at your discretion).
She's really nice but I don't feel anything when having sex with a condom. Had the same thing happen at la Isla yesterday. She jacked me off and I almost came LOL.
She gave me a massage before everything.
After trying to make her cum (and failing) even tho it hurt me a little and I didn't feel any pleasure really, we ended up just touching each other me grabbing her tits talking about how we got to this situation and my background.
We wash up. We leave together. I ask for the exist and leave 12 k cop to get back to my hotel In Provenza I gave him 20 k I don't care about such little change and people are always so reluctant to give it to me anyways.
I learned sex is all in the mind. And that I should put some lube in the condom. Before doing it so I hurt a little less.
That's what I'm going to do now go to the sex shop on calle 10 and get some lube and just carry that with me everywhere LOL.
Do you guys have anymore tips for me not feeling anything with a condom and kinda hurting?
Finally, loutron is the real deal highly recommend.
I got a credit card stolen out of my wallet during a 3 some with two bar girls near Central Mayorista. Was checking out the area last Thursday, and decided to get some drinks at a bar where the street workers were on the map. Ended up bringing two bar girls to the rooms the bar had in the back, total damage was 70 k with the room for the two of them. Well, during the 3 some one of the girls distracted me facing the other way of where my pants where while I was fucking her. The other girl took about 3-4 seconds to go into my wallet while I wasn't looking and stole my credit card. I confronted them which was about 10 seconds after we had left the room and I looked into my wallet to see it missing. I confronted one of the girls while the other scurried up into the apartment steps above. Other girl who I confronted texts the girl who stole my card to come back down, and she starts getting aggressive with me, and then emptying out her purse. But I know she scurried upstairs to hide the card she stole from me. Whatever, I'm not about to call the cops for something that is so easily cancelled and replaced.
Lesson learned, I'm only carrying cash from now on. I've had hundreds of street girls but this was the first time I had a 3 some.
I've also been to Zandalay and New Life about a half a dozen times in the last 3 weeks. I find Zandalay to be a more pleasant time, but its been the same girls in rotation to the point where I've been bored. I enjoyed Manuela, a thicker girl with braces. If you're into face fucking and like girls who barely have a gag reflex, she is pretty good. I also had Wendy, a thin and cute girl who is bubbly. I recommend them two. I've been to Zandalay at about noon-ish, 4 pm, and 6 pm. The evenings tend to be dead with only 2-3 girls working. Lunch time is probably your best bet.
New Life, I find the rooms to be a little less nice than Zandalay. The times I've been, it has ranged anywhere from 5 girls to 14 girls that have been shown to me. The mamasan has a bad attitude and I really dislike her, kind of a ***** with a permanent frown. The girls are a bit more mechanical imo but YMMV. All the girls I've been with at Zan and New Life say they're from Medellin but I can't tell the difference between a Paisa and a Venz.
I also paid the $110 to get back onto SA, and its definitely not as good as it was 1-2 years ago. The Medellin girls on the site have gotten uglier than I can remember. I agree that the variance on SA is very high and is very YMMV. You could find a chill girl you bareback and just hangout with for $0, or you find nothing. I don't recommend SA unless you're staying here more than 2 weeks or are a frequent visitor.
I'm in Medellin until September, give me a message if you want to hang and be Johns.
Expect Colombia's new socialist president Gustavo Pietro to clamp down on prostitution the same way like Cuba. So enjoy it before it's gone.Gustavo Petro was the mayor of bogota from 2012 to 2015 and prostitution flourished in Santa Fe during those years. So obviously if he didn't crack down on it when he was mayor what makes you think he will as president?
I don't know whether to applaud your candor, or laugh at the great joke you could be playing on us. If you are being serious, my mind is kind of blown as to what it would be like to experience sex for the first time in Medellin. By all means, keep us updated, if for no other reason than the excellent entertainment value. I hope your story is true, I guess.
BTW, solo curioso, how old are you?LOL this is all true. I'm 23. Today might get a gustos girl. Or someone from parque lleras. I have had sex twice. I have not cum. If I don't cum after this trip. I might just be asexual and retire from all this and love the life of a monk.
I'm going to report every day least once. I bought some lubricant to see if that will help if I put it in the condom.
Gustavo Petro was the mayor of bogota from 2012 to 2015 and prostitution flourished in Santa Fe during those years. So obviously if he didn't crack down on it when he was mayor what makes you think he will as president?100% bullshit!
I got a credit card stolen out of my wallet during a 3 some with two bar girls near Central Mayorista. Was checking out the area last Thursday, and decided to get some drinks at a bar where the street workers were on the map. Ended up bringing two bar girls to the rooms the bar had in the back, total damage was 70 k with the room for the two of them. Well, during the 3 some one of the girls distracted me facing the other way of where my pants where while I was fucking her. The other girl took about 3-4 seconds to go into my wallet while I wasn't looking and stole my credit card. I confronted them which was about 10 seconds after we had left the room and I looked into my wallet to see it missing. I confronted one of the girls while the other scurried up into the apartment steps above. Other girl who I confronted texts the girl who stole my card to come back down, and she starts getting aggressive with me, and then emptying out her purse. But I know she scurried upstairs to hide the card she stole from me. Whatever, I'm not about to call the cops for something that is so easily cancelled and replaced.
Lesson learned, I'm only carrying cash from now on. I've had hundreds of street girls but this was the first time I had a 3 some.
I've also been to Zandalay and New Life about a half a dozen times in the last 3 weeks. I find Zandalay to be a more pleasant time, but its been the same girls in rotation to the point where I've been bored. I enjoyed Manuela, a thicker girl with braces. If you're into face fucking and like girls who barely have a gag reflex, she is pretty good. I also had Wendy, a thin and cute girl who is bubbly. I recommend them two. I've been to Zandalay at about noon-ish, 4 pm, and 6 pm. The evenings tend to be dead with only 2-3 girls working. Lunch time is probably your best bet.
New Life, I find the rooms to be a little less nice than Zandalay. The times I've been, it has ranged anywhere from 5 girls to 14 girls that have been shown to me. The mamasan has a bad attitude and I really dislike her, kind of a ***** with a permanent frown. The girls are a bit more mechanical imo but ymmv. All the girls I've been with at Zan and New Life say they're from Medellin but I can't tell the difference between a Paisa and a Venz.
I also paid the $110 to get back onto SA, and its definitely not as good as it was 1-2 years ago. The Medellin girls on the site have gotten uglier than I can remember.
I'm in Medellin until September, give me a message if you want to hang and be Johns.
... When I related what several girls told me about their displeasure at appearing in unauthorized youtube productions by thirsty punters in search of clickbait revenue....Tell the girls to report the video so the youtuber can't monetize it.
Girls being younger is especially funny.
There may be a somewhat different ethnic mix among those from the area around Medellin compared to the areas around Bogota. There was a lot of isolation over the period of a couple of hundred years, and the Europeans that originally settled the area of Antioquia are from different parts of Europe than those in the Bogota area. So the "average" appearance may be slightly different, but only slightly I think. And of the few thousand people that lived in the area say 400 years ago it is not likely that a significant portion of the 1. 5 million or so now descended from those original settlers and native people that lived there.I've only been to Bogota once and I didn't notice any difference in the "ethnic appearance" of the women compared to Medellin. Obviously, it's small sample size so not conclusive.
From my experience, if you just want a large quantity of good looking women, Bogota beats Medellin (as it should given it's three times larger). But I keep going back to Medellin because I like the weather better, I know people there, and it's just a more pleasant city.
Not sure whi captain is or what he is doing. But this guy seems to be trying to provoke response by hitting all the key talking points. And when he said he s a virgin. Well. Thats when I turned from skeptical to cynical.
BTW, its just my suspicion. You can take it or leave it. Maybe ur correct. *Smile*What are the key talking points besides virgin?
...Do you guys have anymore tips for me not feeling anything with a condom and kinda hurting?....Stop going the to the places that offer all covered service like what you seem to be doing now, or try to negotiate better to get what you need.
That is a great idea. I had not considered that. It makes sense because that's also what musicians started doing to stop youtubers using their songs without permission. Thanks for this advice.
Tell the girls to report the video so the youtuber can't monetize it.
This is why I hate threesomes. Once you start to enjoy yourself one of the girls gets into mischief. And you are paying extra. If you know one or both girls well I find it works out better. It's a personal preference thing of course.
I got a credit card stolen out of my wallet during a 3 some with two bar girls near Central Mayorista. Was checking out the area last Thursday, and decided to get some drinks at a bar where the street workers were on the map. Ended up bringing two bar girls to the rooms the bar had in the back, total damage was 70 k with the room for the two of them. Well, during the 3 some one of the girls distracted me facing the other way of where my pants where while I was fucking her. The other girl took about 3-4 seconds to go into my wallet while I wasn't looking and stole my credit card. I confronted them which was about 10 seconds after we had left the room and I looked into my wallet to see it missing. I confronted one of the girls while the other scurried up into the apartment steps above. Other girl who I confronted texts the girl who stole my card to come back down, and she starts getting aggressive with me, and then emptying out her purse. But I know she scurried upstairs to hide the card she stole from me. Whatever, I'm not about to call the cops for something that is so easily cancelled and replaced.
Lesson learned, I'm only carrying cash from now on. I've had hundreds of street girls but this was the first time I had a 3 some.
I've also been to Zandalay and New Life about a half a dozen times in the last 3 weeks. I find Zandalay to be a more pleasant time, but its been the same girls in rotation to the point where I've been bored. I enjoyed Manuela, a thicker girl with braces. If you're into face fucking and like girls who barely have a gag reflex, she is pretty good. I also had Wendy, a thin and cute girl who is bubbly. I recommend them two. I've been to Zandalay at about noon-ish, 4 pm, and 6 pm. The evenings tend to be dead with only 2-3 girls working. Lunch time is probably your best bet.
New Life, I find the rooms to be a little less nice than Zandalay. The times I've been, it has ranged anywhere from 5 girls to 14 girls that have been shown to me. The mamasan has a bad attitude and I really dislike her, kind of a ***** with a permanent frown. The girls are a bit more mechanical imo but YMMV. All the girls I've been with at Zan and New Life say they're from Medellin but I can't tell the difference between a Paisa and a Venz.
I also paid the $110 to get back onto SA, and its definitely not as good as it was 1-2 years ago. The Medellin girls on the site have gotten uglier than I can remember.
I'm in Medellin until September, give me a message if you want to hang and be Johns.
Stop going the to the places that offer all covered service like what you seem to be doing now, or try to negotiate better to get what you need.Thank you. I will try to negotiate better. See if people are willing to have uncovered vaginal sex Kekw.
I think my last update for the day.
I was omega tired after walking almost 20 k steps. So I sat at parque poblado behind the shops. I was going to go to gustos but it was 6 pm and I was so tired I wasn't going to wait at least 3 hours to party and talk to a girls and bring her back to my hotel.
So I decide it was time to hit up mileroticos. Before I left NYC I was hitting up chicks in mileroticos to see if they would respond. A really cute one responded so I hit her up again. Asked if she could come immediately. She came 45 minutes later from Itagüí. Her name is Sofia. Short girl like 1. 5 meters big natural tits cute face. Love her she's an 8 in my book. 300 mil for 1 hour 30 minutes or 300 mil for 1 hour with uncovered blowjob. I chose 1 hour because I was tired.
We had a nice conversation before we started while touching each other. With her I felt like I was falling in love LOL.
All sorts of positions. En fin, I actually came because I used lube wooo hooray for lube. Third time is the charm right? But still. There is room for improvement in sex. Having sex with so many girls and failing and succeeding makes me reconsider what is important in life. I think connection is really important and I think making a girl crave you and feel really good is also important. I will strive for these things.
We talked after the sex. I showed her my VR goggles.
A picture of la Isla from the most far away point from the bar. On the left is the entrance on the right next to the bar is the exit. Sorry for terrible quality.
Picture to show how fucking massive loutron is.
Picture of Sofia using vr googles.
DonMedellin
06-26-22, 02:33
Like 10 girls came out. 8 -10 all of them.
I had similar experience, 8 to 10 out 10, top quality. The service does vary tho. I never had a bad service, but somes girl are more machanical. One girl (I fotgot her name) treated me like a king, but my friend did not have good experience with her. All depends.
I agree and it seems kind of odd that he would pop up on ISG of all places saying he's a virgin and mongering in medellin. Alot of what he is stating in his posts just doesn't make sense imo.
I'm wondering if he's not even really in medellin at all and just RTFF and is recycling information he found and adding in his stupid questions like about adding lube inside the condoms, etc.He is a paid member. His post also has information that I think are new in this forum. Maybe he took the 50 mil La Isla cover from my post a few days ago, but he provided more than that. If he is able to recycle old information, maybe you can show proof?
He is a paid member. His post also has information that I think are new in this forum. Maybe he took the 50 mil La Isla cover from my post a few days ago, but he provided more than that. If he is able to recycle old information, maybe you can show proof?How about you show some proof that he isn't recycling information from past posts, since you feel the need to defend him.
How about you show some proof that he isn't recycling information from past posts, since you feel the need to defend him.I am just stating the fact that I know. You are the one making accusation so I think you need to back it up.
Someone who is 23 years old, a virgin, and cannot cum in Medellíand could be gay and having a hard time admitting it. If so, props for flying all the way down there to make sure, or find out, or whatever. When I was 23 my dick got hard whenever the wind blew and I could cum 5 or 6 times a day.
I am just stating the fact that I know. You are the one making accusation so I think you need to back it up.There is a ton of info on loutron, gustos, and la isla posted in this forum, a simple search brings up the info. You even mentioned that you yourself posted about the 50 k cover charge at la isla the other day in your "gringo inflation" post. Idk maybe the shit about the salchipapas he could have found somewhere else but there's probably a post on here about salchipapas too. Here's some screenshots of searches it took me literally a few seconds to pull up and he could have easily done the same thing and gotten his info that way. He's probably sitting in his parent's basement eating doritos and making this shit up.
It's raining like crazy in Medellin.
Went to gustos like 9:20. Only people there are staff and some working girls. So I stayed on the balcony thinking. Went in at like 10 pm because there were people and working girls. I'm going to say they were mostly 6 and 7. Very surgically enhanced if you like that. I'm still making up my mind. I stayed till almost 11 pm. Indian guy told me that someone there told him that it starts picking up at 12 pm. So I guess go to gustos at 12 pm or one am if you're looking for a lot of people or the most options for girls.
Here is the run down of prices. And seating arrangements.
There is the bar. Tall wooden tables. The white not vip couches and the white vip couches.
The bar is free to sit at. Everywhere else but the vip section you have to buy a bottle. The vip section cost 1. 000.000 cop (a million) they then give you a bottle for free.
I saw some people buy the section and immediately 3 girls went into the section so there's that.
Attached is pdf of prices.
The girls at the bars don't want to talk to you or at least not to me. They are just serving drinks. You want to order at the bar talk to the guys.
As for girl prices. I wasn't attracted to any of the girls so I didn't ask. I hear on the forum they are like 300 mil.
Walk back to Provenza expected no street walkers bale side of the rain. To my surprise they just come with umbrellas. Maybe they get them from the street venders who now magically changed their inventories from trinkets to umbrellas.
Tomorrow I will most likely see a cam girl and go shopping with them. Let's see what happens. If not it's either Centro or new life with fase dos or Luna lunera in the night.
Peace.
probably sitting in his parent's basement eating doritos and making this shit up.Brooo what do I have to do to prove to you that I have my boots on the ground?
SankarShetty
06-26-22, 14:35
Buddy, Nice to see you are playing the field from all the way from SW in Mayorista to high end SA chicas. I agree the SA has changed a bit in the last 2 years. More girls getting hang of things and has become more FB type scene.
Since you are a newbie I cannot DM you but I am in the city first 2 weeks in July. I will be in bar by san peters occasionally, let me know if you want to catch up.
I'm in Medellin until September, give me a message if you want to hang and be Johns.
Gianni Versace
06-26-22, 15:19
Gents.
This post is long overdue. Thanks to all of you who helped make my trip to Medellin wonderful.
To recap I was in Medellin Sunday – Thursday 5 AM.
About 45 days prior to my trip I began friending & chatting with girls via facebook. What I can tell you is that you need to be very careful on who you friend and how many random friend requests and or messages you send. If you send too many of either your ability to send requests and or messages will be temporarily suspended. As for time its been suspended that I have no idea what the facebook algorithm is to determine that.
If you do not know how to go about it look for La IsLa Medellin on facebook and go thru there friends list. Only contact girls who have been active within the past 2 weeks. Any girl that has not been active your chances of being accepted are very slim.
I would categorize the facebook girls in Medellin either as Prepago's, Students or Paisa's. It's really weird but many girls when I contacted them via facebook they say they are not a prepago. I rebutted that and said I am not looking for a Prepago but to meet new friends. Once they hear that the regular girls tend to let their guard down. The really really hot ones are Prepago's aka Prepaid. They are the girls that are professional in my opinion and ask for 250 MIL COP to 400 Mil COP girls. The only problem is that it seems like these girls are only down for 1 pop. Attached is a pic of some of the girls in this crew. Kate who has been spoken of on the forum was $250 MIL COP. One of her friends I paid 400 MIL Cop for 2 pops BBFS. It was great but she seemed to be very mechanical and was in and out in 45 min.
A paisa in my opinion is just a regular Colombian girl who has regular job. From my experience many of the paisa's will take 150 MIL COP and are not clock watchers and are just awesome. I can't fathom how sexual so many of the Colombian and Vennies are. These girls are great.
I ended up lucking out and finding this brand new ultra modern apartment at the San Peter in Laureles. The San Peter is great. The only problem I can confirm is that if you bring a Vennie back she needs a official passport. They will not accept any other form of ID's or paperwork to show the girls are in the country legally.
In my 3. 5 days in Medellin I fucked 9 girls. 7 of the girls were all BBFS. 2 girls CFS =(5 Girls I lined up via facebook. In my opinon the Casa's are great. I only went to 2 Casa's. New Life & Zandalay. In my opinion Zandaly had the hottest girls. I mean how awesome is it you can fuck a girl that is a 8 or even 10 for 50,000 – 70,000 MIL Cop? I had this gorgeous 18 year old Vennie at Zandalay. I don't remember her name but she was tall and slim and just had a baby. Absolute no baby damage just fresh milk from her tits. We were fucking so hard that the condom broke and she just continued to let me pound the shit out of her and blew a load in her. I gave her an extra 20,000 MIL COP as a tip.
The bar at San Peter was dead so I never found a wing man to go with me to El Centro. I will save that for another time. Medellin is a great place. It is so easy to meet women in Colombia it is ridiculous. If I lived in Medellin I would never get married. It is honestly heaven to a single man.
Viva La Colombia!
La Isla currently practices not letting guests seat at all (especially on weekends) unless you order bottles.
Does anyone know what the prices of bottles of whisky or Tequila are at these clubs? Do they save the bottle for you? Or do you have to finish?
Sorry if this has already been posted before. I just couldn't find the info.
Rapid Fire
06-26-22, 15:53
Hopefully, it is okay to post this here.
I know it is talked about here, but it didn't come up in my search.
The facebook page hall o shame.
We had to limit the amount if people we were accepting because of all of the idiots.
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NeilGeorge
06-26-22, 15:59
Picture to show how fucking massive loutron is.Sign on the wall, hall by the front desk, inside Loutron says no photos or videos allowed.
EverythingBlue
06-26-22, 16:58
Gents.
This post is long overdue. Thanks to all of you who helped make my trip to Medellin wonderful.
To recap I was in Medellin Sunday Thursday 5 AM.
About 45 days prior to my trip I began friending & chatting with girls via facebook. What I can tell you is that you need to be very careful on who you friend and how many random friend requests and or messages you send. If you send too many of either your ability to send requests and or messages will be temporarily suspended. As for time its been suspended that I have no idea what the facebook algorithm is to determine that.
If you do not know how to go about it look for La IsLa Medellin on facebook and go thru there friends list. Only contact girls who have been active within the past 2 weeks. Any girl that has not been active your chances of being accepted are very slim.
I would categorize the facebook girls in Medellin either as Prepago's, Students or Paisa's. It's really weird but many girls when I contacted them via facebook they say they are not a prepago. I rebutted that and said I am not looking for a Prepago but to meet new friends. Once they hear that the regular girls tend to let their guard down. The really really hot ones are Prepago's aka Prepaid. They are the girls that are professional in my opinion and ask for 250 MIL COP to 400 Mil COP girls. The only problem is that it seems like these girls are only down for 1 pop. Attached is a pic of some of the girls in this crew. Kate who has been spoken of on the forum was $250 MIL COP. One of her friends I paid 400 MIL Cop for 2 pops BBFS. It was great but she seemed to be very mechanical and was in and out in 45 min.
A paisa in my opinion is just a regular Colombian girl who has regular job. From my experience many of the paisa's will take 150 MIL COP and are not clock watchers and are just awesome. I can't fathom how sexual so many of the Colombian and Vennies are. These girls are great.
I ended up lucking out and finding this brand new ultra modern apartment at the San Peter in Laureles. The San Peter is great. The only problem I can confirm is that if you bring a Vennie back she needs a official passport. They will not accept any other form of ID's or paperwork to show the girls are in the country legally.
In my 3. 5 days in Medellin I fucked 9 girls. 7 of the girls were all BBFS. 2 girls CFS =(5 Girls I lined up via facebook. In my opinon the Casa's are great. I only went to 2 Casa's. New Life & Zandalay. In my opinion Zandaly had the hottest girls. I mean how awesome is it you can fuck a girl that is a 8 or even 10 for 50,000 70,000 MIL Cop? I had this gorgeous 18 year old Vennie at Zandalay. I don't remember her name but she was tall and slim and just had a baby. Absolute no baby damage just fresh milk from her tits. We were fucking so hard that the condom broke and she just continued to let me pound the shit out of her and blew a load in her. I gave her an extra 20,000 MIL COP as a tip.
The bar at San Peter was dead so I never found a wing man to go with me to El Centro. I will save that for another time. Medellin is a great place. It is so easy to meet women in Colombia it is ridiculous. If I lived in Medellin I would never get married. It is honestly heaven to a single man.
Viva La Colombia!Good info. Thanks for sharing. That's a pretty good rate of BBFS, awesome. I started adding FB friends a couple of weeks back in preparation for my trip next week, and noticed in the beginning I was being restricted from requesting more friends or send DM to girls, but once I let a couple of days go by without any requests I was good to go again. A thing I noticed is that if I post at least once or twice a week something like a picture or a comment then I can request or DM as much as I want without limits, must be part of their algorithm to determine if it's a bot or fake account spamming others.
Was language a factor in your hit rate of success scoring girls? Not sure if you're bilingual. Prices seem pretty good, I had a girl that looks pretty hot just asked me "si me motiva me tiene", she wants to go on a trip LOL. Prepago status for sure.
AmorPorFavor
06-26-22, 17:57
I ended up lucking out and finding this brand new ultra modern apartment at the San Peter in Laureles. The San Peter is great. The only problem I can confirm is that if you bring a Vennie back she needs a official passport. They will not accept any other form of ID's or paperwork to show the girls are in the country legally.
How did you find the nice apartment at San Peter?
There is a ton of info on loutron, gustos, and la isla posted in this forum, a simple search brings up the info...Did you notice that more than one of my posts show up? Does not that mean I know something?
I am not insisting I am right. What I did was providing new info for you to consider. That is basically it.
.... You even mentioned that you yourself posted about the 50 k cover charge at la isla the other day in your "gringo inflation" post. ...
I did but I also said something else after it.
Gianni Versace
06-26-22, 19:04
Good info. Thanks for sharing. That's a pretty good rate of BBFS, awesome. I started adding FB friends a couple of weeks back in preparation for my trip next week, and noticed in the beginning I was being restricted from requesting more friends or send DM to girls, but once I let a couple of days go by without any requests I was good to go again. A thing I noticed is that if I post at least once or twice a week something like a picture or a comment then I can request or DM as much as I want without limits, must be part of their algorithm to determine if it's a bot or fake account spamming others.
Was language a factor in your hit rate of success scoring girls? Not sure if you're bilingual. Prices seem pretty good, I had a girl that looks pretty hot just asked me "si me motiva me tiene", she wants to go on a trip LOL. Prepago status for sure.I forgot to mention that when I was chatting with the girls on facebook when I tell them directly I am looking for them to treat me like a king and give me the ultimate girl friend experience it seems that they think it means no Condon LOL. The only time I had to use the condom was at the Casa. Otherwise I don't have any nor did the girls that came to hang out with me.
Lastly the day I was flying into Medellin I posted a pic on fb of my boarding pass and passport and the amount of messages I got from girls was amazing.
I was very successful in getting paisa girls to come when I said "I always pay 150,000 mil cop" most of the girls all agreed. It wasn't until after my time with some of the girls that I gave alittle extra money because of there great attitude and service.
Gianni Versace
06-26-22, 19:07
I ended up lucking out and finding this brand new ultra modern apartment at the San Peter in Laureles. The San Peter is great. The only problem I can confirm is that if you bring a Vennie back she needs a official passport. They will not accept any other form of ID's or paperwork to show the girls are in the country legally.
How did you find the nice apartment at San Peter?Here is the link on Airbnb.
https://abnb.me/qHuoj9Afbrb
Those things simply don't affect me and I can't prove him wrong. For me, there is no value so I don't react to it. Interesting to read how different folks arrive at different opinions. I wonder how your learned environment differed so much to mine? Thats not a question that I expect you to answer, hehe.
Gianni Versace
06-26-22, 19:14
Good info. Thanks for sharing. That's a pretty good rate of BBFS, awesome. I started adding FB friends a couple of weeks back in preparation for my trip next week, and noticed in the beginning I was being restricted from requesting more friends or send DM to girls, but once I let a couple of days go by without any requests I was good to go again. A thing I noticed is that if I post at least once or twice a week something like a picture or a comment then I can request or DM as much as I want without limits, must be part of their algorithm to determine if it's a bot or fake account spamming others.
Was language a factor in your hit rate of success scoring girls? Not sure if you're bilingual. Prices seem pretty good, I had a girl that looks pretty hot just asked me "si me motiva me tiene", she wants to go on a trip LOL. Prepago status for sure.I forgot to add I speak zero Spanish. Google translate was my best friend.
When the girls show up to the apartment we sat on the couch, I brought a blue tooth speaker and played some Maluma Radio on pandora and drank some aguidente with them. With google translate you can speak into the phone and it automatically translates into Spanish and English vice versa.
My lack of Spanish was the reason why I didn't feel comfortable going to el centro on my own. Almost everyone I met in medellin kept saying how dangerous it was and even some of the regular girls I met said they got robbed also.
RadioWave12
06-26-22, 21:28
I forgot to add I speak zero Spanish. Google translate was my best friend.
When the girls show up to the apartment we sat on the couch, I brought a blue tooth speaker and played some Maluma Radio on pandora and drank some aguidente with them. With google translate you can speak into the phone and it automatically translates into Spanish and English vice versa.
My lack of Spanish was the reason why I didn't feel comfortable going to el centro on my own. Almost everyone I met in Medellin kept saying how dangerous it was and even some of the regular girls I met said they got robbed also.Greetings mate! Sent you a DM. Honestly, glad to see a post like this. 1000 creativity points to you for giving us a viable work around.
Visited New Life at midday and was presented with may 15 different girls in total. Nothing that I liked looks wise and the bodys where so loose, they really need to visit a gym, to much flesh flapping. Also it was like McDonalds. Very boring burgers and too many customers. Also the parallel to McDonalds is good in the sense that there were more Americans than locals. If you like fit girls do not visit this place. My perspective is Brazilian girls.
Then went to Sexy Amigas. Not great either but the girls what a bit more fit. Was going to walk out but realized I wasted to much time and took one. Blowjob with too much teeth, no passion, like a machine. Did the possions that I asked. Room was good. Management was friendly, much more relaxed atmosphere than New Life. For cheap girls so far initial impression Brazil over Colombia. Tried to cheapest hotel I could find just too check what you can get for 13 $. Medellin Ayenda 1248 Conquistadores. Good enough if you are not going to spend any time in there during the day as it has too little air circulating so I gets a bit hot.
Quick question, why did you choose New Life? Did someone recommend it or was it because it was at the top of the list of search results?
Visited New Life at midday and was presented with may 15 different girls in total. Nothing that I liked looks wise and the bodys where so loose, they really need to visit a gym, to much flesh flapping. Also it was like McDonalds. Very boring burgers and too many customers. Also the parallell to McDonalds is good in the sense that there were more americans than locals. If you like fit girls do not visit this place. My perspective is brasilian girls.
Then went to Sexy Amigas. Not great either but the girls what a bit more fit. Was going to walk out but realized I wasted to much time and took one. Blowjob with too much teeth, no passion, like a machine. Did the possions that I asked. Room was good. Managment was friendly, much more relaxed atmosphere than New Life. For cheap girls so far initial impression Brazil over Colombia. Tried to cheapest hotel I could find just too check what you can get for 13 $. Medellin Ayenda 1248 Conquistadores. Good enough if you are not going to spend any time in there during the day as it has too little air circulating so I gets a bit hot.
I got a credit card stolen out of my wallet during a 3 some with two bar girls near Central Mayorista. Was checking out the area last Thursday, and decided to get some drinks at a bar where the street workers were on the map. Ended up bringing two bar girls to the rooms the bar had in the back, total damage was 70 k with the room for the two of them. Well, during the 3 some one of the girls distracted me facing the other way of where my pants where while I was fucking her. The other girl took about 3-4 seconds to go into my wallet while I wasn't looking and stole my credit card. I confronted them which was about 10 seconds after we had left the room and I looked into my wallet to see it missing. I confronted one of the girls while the other scurried up into the apartment steps above. Other girl who I confronted texts the girl who stole my card to come back down, and she starts getting aggressive with me, and then emptying out her purse. But I know she scurried upstairs to hide the card she stole from me. Whatever, I'm not about to call the cops for something that is so easily cancelled and replaced.
Lesson learned, I'm only carrying cash from now on. I've had hundreds of street girls but this was the first time I had a 3 some.
I've also been to Zandalay and New Life about a half a dozen times in the last 3 weeks. I find Zandalay to be a more pleasant time, but its been the same girls in rotation to the point where I've been bored. I enjoyed Manuela, a thicker girl with braces. If you're into face fucking and like girls who barely have a gag reflex, she is pretty good. I also had Wendy, a thin and cute girl who is bubbly. I recommend them two. I've been to Zandalay at about noon-ish, 4 pm, and 6 pm. The evenings tend to be dead with only 2-3 girls working. Lunch time is probably your best bet.
New Life, I find the rooms to be a little less nice than Zandalay. The times I've been, it has ranged anywhere from 5 girls to 14 girls that have been shown to me. The mamasan has a bad attitude and I really dislike her, kind of a ***** with a permanent frown. The girls are a bit more mechanical imo but YMMV. All the girls I've been with at Zan and New Life say they're from Medellin but I can't tell the difference between a Paisa and a Venz.
I also paid the $110 to get back onto SA, and its definitely not as good as it was 1-2 years ago. The Medellin girls on the site have gotten uglier than I can remember.
I'm in Medellin until September, give me a message if you want to hang and be Johns.Don't carry your wallet. If your wallet is like mine it contains a bunch of stuff which is important, a pain to replace and completely useless in Medellin. You should only be carrying what you need for each excursion.
If you must carry a wallet, get another one for travel. Only put in what you need. An expired or canceled card is a nice touch, and only keep part of your money in the wallet. Keep the rest along with a debit card, if needed, in a separate pocket. Hand over the wallet if necessary. It will probably satisfy the robbers and you won't lose much.
Visited New Life at midday and was presented with may 15 different girls in total. Nothing that I liked looks wise and the bodys where so loose.I haven't been a fan of New Life in a while, but am sorry to hear of your experience. What I will say is that Sunday may have something to do with it. The best lineups, in my experience, have typically been on Thursday, Friday, and somewhat Saturday, especially if it's on a pay day (more girls show up to address the guys looking to blow their paycheck). Also, I suggest going earlier in the day, like 12-1 pm as many girls will leave early if they're made their money and are allowed.
Thank you for reporting about casas. We need more such reports. Please do let us know about other casas if you visited them.
Visited New Life at midday and was presented with may 15 different girls in total. Nothing that I liked looks wise and the bodys where so loose, they really need to visit a gym, to much flesh flapping. Also it was like McDonalds. Very boring burgers and too many customers. Also the parallell to McDonalds is good in the sense that there were more Americans than locals. If you like fit girls do not visit this place. My perspective is Brasilian girls.
Then went to Sexy Amigas. Not great either but the girls what a bit more fit. Was going to walk out but realized I wasted to much time and took one. Blowjob with too much teeth, no passion, like a machine. Did the possions that I asked. Room was good. Management was friendly, much more relaxed atmosphere than New Life. For cheap girls so far initial impression Brazil over Colombia. Tried to cheapest hotel I could find just too check what you can get for 13 $. Medellin Ayenda 1248 Conquistadores. Good enough if you are not going to spend any time in there during the day as it has too little air circulating so I gets a bit hot.
So today I moved from my hotel to my Airbnb.
Uber is great. Very cheap and effective way to get anywhere. I noticed that if you're out of the parque lleras area it's going to take a little longer for Ubers to get to you.
I met with a cam girl today. Went to tesoro mall. The Cam girl (let's call her D) told me it is expensive for Colombian standards. Got pants for 170 mil each.
We ate at Il forno. Entree 2 drinks 2 plates of pasta likee 120 mil.
After some shopping me and the went back to my Airbnb. Showed her my VR goggles.
She's not a prepago. So I had to use typical methods of arousal. In the end I I was really only touching her with her clothes on. And lots of DFK.
No sex. Pathetic I know.
I've read somewhere on the forum that you guys have trouble getting girls from cams. I go to stream ate because girls there like talking. Basically the name of the game is trust and time. I've been on that website for 2 years now in prep for this Medellin trip. I've managed to get like 10 girls to agree to dates. Most of them most recently. I've been "working" on them for a few months maybe. You get to know them what they do what life is like in Medellin Cali Bogota Carthage wherever they are from. You give them golds (currency of the website 1 to 1 equivalent to dollars) when they have their lush (vibrating sex toy) inside their VJ. To get them excited or when they do something you like. And it's a bunch of talking. Take them to a private chat where she can masturbate freely or how you want her to masturbate. Send them pictures to see what you look like. They are really interested in gringos. Some for genuine interest some for monetary interest. After a couple of privates ask them for their instagram after she has come a lot. That's what usually works for me. This one of the few time these girls will give you contact info because it is prohibited in those sites. Like stream ate and live jasmine. But not in sites like chaturbate but In chaturbate I don't have any luck.
So then you talk to her in outside of the site. Visiting her in the site sometimes to talk and stuff. Eventually when you come to whatever city she is in let her know. And try to set up a date. Takes some time and investment but you can get a girl like this. She could be your girlfriend if you want.
Or you could just fuck. Friends with benefits situation. You could potentially get girlfriends for free. No having to pay for sex after the untill invesmtment. But like osteo said "we all pay for it some way or another".
If you want just sex no emotions nothing, it's better to get a prepago on some website, centro, lleras, strip clubs you name it. If you want a little more emotion and GFE and dating or a longer term thing from a girl you e already seen her body online try this.
What did I learn from medallo so far? I have to get better at this sex without direct payment thing. Tonight I might just go to Lleras or call Sofia again because I had no luck this morning.
Peace.
Mr Enternational
06-27-22, 02:29
Tomorrow I will most likely see a cam girl and go shopping with them.Go shopping with them why? You know that going shopping with them means you are paying for everything.
Years back someone posted a report about going to Exito in Cartagena with some chick and her mom. They put everything they could think of into that basket. Microwave and all. When they got to the register they turned to him to pay for it all. He said he would go to the ATM and never looked back.
Let them shop on their own. When they want to eat or hangout is your turn to show up in the picture.
Mr Enternational
06-27-22, 03:26
The really really hot ones are Prepago's aka Prepaid.What do you mean aka prepaid? Prepago means hooker.
A paisa in my opinion is just a regular Colombian girl who has regular job. From my experience many of the paisa's will take 150 MIL COP and are not clock watchers and are just awesome.No need for opinions here. Words have definitions. A Paisa is literally "someone from a region in the northwest of Colombia, including part of the West and Central cordilleras of the Andes in Colombia. The Paisa region is formed by the departments of Antioquia, Caldas, Risaralda and Quindío."
A hooker is literally a person that takes 150,000 for sex. All hookers are not Paisa and not all Paisa take money for sex. Don't pisz on my leg and tell me it is raining.
Mr Enternational
06-27-22, 03:40
Visited New Life at midday and was presented with may 15 different girls in total. Nothing that I liked looks wise and the bodys where so loose, they really need to visit a gym, to much flesh flapping. If you like fit girls do not visit this place. My perspective is brasilian girls.Why would you go to Colombia expecting Brazil?
Mr Enternational
06-27-22, 03:47
Here is the link on Airbnb.
https://abnb.me/qHuoj9AfbrbThat looks like every other apartment I have stayed in at San Peter except it is $20 more.
Gianni Versace
06-27-22, 04:39
That looks like every other apartment I have stayed in at San Peter except it is $20 more.In my opinion this apartment is alot nicer than any of the other apartments I found at San Peter on booking.com. As they say to each there own.
AmorPorFavor
06-27-22, 05:04
In my opinion this apartment is alot nicer than any of the other apartments I found at San Peter on booking.com. As they say to each there own.That apt looks very nice. Way better than any of the other San Peter apts I've seen online. I had written San Peter off as a place to stay because all the pics I have seen look like a dump but will now consider that apt. It is a place I would stay in and I only like the very nicest places and it is very cheap. Thanks for the link.
Why would you go to Colombia expecting Brazil?This is your opinion, nothing I wrote states something like that. I share my impression so others that have not visited know the difference.
This is your opinion, nothing I wrote states something like that. I share my impression so others that have not visited know the difference.1. Most posts are mostly opinions. Go back and read some of the stuff about the weather. It's too hot, too cold, too wet too dry, awful and great.
2. The comparison to Brazil is only helpful for guys who have been to Brazil. My guess is that more guys go to Colombia before Brazil, than go to Brazil before Colombia.
3. No matter what you post, eventually someone will question a detail. Consider the objection as constructive criticism.
It was a good review.
Something about football or father's day or today being the day before a holiday. It Luna lunera was closed gustos was dead. Fase ii had a handful of gringos and some less than good girls.
Parque lleras had girls but nothing crazy. Walked the block a bunch of times you mightve seen me with the blue blazer looking like the most foreign foreigner. Took a literally random girl off the street. Saw her walking by and I was like whatever. Looked like a 6. She said 300 mil for 2 hours 50 mil for kissing. She's a garbage kisser. Asked me for 3 beers at a bar 33 mil. I didn't negotiate which is something I'm learning I should do. She was very roughy with me. Said she came from Venezuela yesterday. Got to my Airbnb. The chick is actually 4. Very ugly by my book I regretted everything. After taking pictures and showing off the beers to her friends on her phone. She started dancing for me. Was in missionary. Could keep it up she was ugly as fuck. I was like it's better if you leave. She got mad LOL but she left quiet. See ya.
I'll take it as a learning experience.
Side note. Was walking around a lot in Lleras today. Skinny chick came up to me. I don't trust people that come up to me. She said 300 mil for 1 hour. I was like nah she brought it down to 200 mil immediately. Left. Walked some more turns out she was following me. Came up to me again. I said not interested. Be careful out there guys. Very uneventful day for me. Still learning about this sex thing.
Peace.
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