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Then if you see the line is short sometime when it is getting low recharge it again. One can recharge it in a green machine as well, using cash (and coins too I believe). The machines even have the English menu option (translation isn't the best though but it's like two screens anyway). Usually the line to those is much shorter than to the ticketing booth, often no line at all.
Read this and the related posts to get more detail. Google Civica and download the Civica card image to your phone to show it to the ticket counter.
When I was there last you got your card but you could put as much on it as you wanted, up to some limit, not sure. Stand in line, get your card but put 20 or 30 mil on it, that way you won't have to line up again for however many times the money lasts. Then if you see the line is short sometime when it is getting low recharge it again. That was not the civica card, just the regular one that is equivalent to a ticket.Great help, thank you. I was at the ticket counter on both stations and asked to buy a card but the just sold me a ticket. I'll try again.
Got it! Thanks for the spot on directions, it's a Hobby shop just slightly left off the entrance. I showed the guy your photo (not the one with porn jaja) and he knew exactly what I wanted. 52 mil.
"Kids, if you're going to do drugs do it like this. ".When I wrote it I thought "Geez, he'll probably never find that place" but that was my best effort. And thanks for the price quote, I couldn't remember that off the top of my head. Was not aware that place was considered a "Hobby Shop" but that makes sense. I am pretty sure they sell Lubriderm there in the sex novelty section, too. Jajajajaja. Strong work, and Keep On Keepin' On!
Many lotions contain petroleum based ingredients and fragrances that damage condoms (for those of us who use them) and disrupt healthy vaginal pH levels respectively. I am all about informed decision making.People should consider the source of their "Knowledge" and make their own informed decisions.
I forgot to mention one of the horrible side effects of using Lubriderm to facilitate entry in her poop chute, the skin on her ass gets nice and soft, jajajaja.
JohnnyWalker55
07-30-22, 15:32
Good to see nice weather is back.
I do some walking around and smoking and eventually decide to visit a strip club.
I observe the talent. After a while a cute-faced shortie comes by. Nice convo via translator. OK let's dance. We agree on 60 mil media hora. I ask for oral sin condon while at the table and she says si, no condon during the whole time, for a propina. Well, lady, you've had me at si.
Once the clothes come off though, it turns out she is a bit fat at the waist, nothing dramatic yet not great. Tits not very firm either. She gives quite good BBJ. I put a pillow under her hips and go in missionary while holding her at the ankles. Then quatro. Then she's on top. To my own surprise I can't come. I play with her pussy a bit. I stay hard so I go in again. Nope, there will be no pop here. I'm getting a bit of sweat on from all that pumping. Up until now I didn't have any trouble coming while bareback. Her attitude wasn't that great but she did soldier on. Well, I decide to call it shortly before the knock on the door. It wasn't bad just not. Hot. I could've asked her finish me off with a hand and I'the probably come but I didn't want to waste a good pop on that. Gave 20 mil propina and took some photos (first photo is her (quite dark in those rooms and my low-end burner doesn't help with quality).
I come back downstairs with blue balls).It is really funny when the old guys "invite you" after talking for a little at the bar and then the drinks don't stop LOL.
You got to mention, what strip club is this where the girls are charging 60 k hh and only 20 k upcharge for bareback lmao?
Something like taberna hilton or one of those behind conjitas?
JohnnyWalker55
07-30-22, 15:37
Thank you very much for the excellent and simple reports. Really nice.
A question I have for you and centro rats is this. Is it worth spending close to 100 COP with street girls in cheap hotels as compared to spending the same amount or 110 cop in casas where you are somewhat assured of better service and class? Surroundings are quite "upscale" too so one does not feel anxious and can focus on "task" LOL.
So what do you guy (s) think?With street girls it's always a gamble. You have to feel them out, see their mood, etc. If you find the right one you can get great deals like 30 k +7 k room and she'll be DFK GFE etc. But it's swing or miss.
With casa girls you're guaranteed to have a good session. Only had a handful of "bad" experiences at places like yakusa or casa paris, but the girls aren't machines so it's bound to happen.
It's really a "can't lose" situation in centro.
The only real time you can get fleeced at these prices are places online like fotoprepagos where you pay 110 k for a hh and the girl doesn't resemble photos, but you got there already so might as well hahaha.
Obviously places like parque lleras or gusto's it's a higher opportunity cost looking for a good performer at those prices.
Great help, thank you. I was at the ticket counter on both stations and asked to buy a card but the just sold me a ticket. I'll try again.Their procedures obviously keep changing. Many years ago, if I asked to buy one ticket, they would sell me a paper ticket. But if I bought more than one ticket, they would give me a card. Then they did away with paper tickets and always gave me a card. Later, there was a one time charge for the card, which I was allowed to keep. Try buying four tickets the next time you go to the window and see if they will give, or sell, you a card.
Reminds me of a revenge trick I have used. When I go to a strip club with poor service I crack open a pop-top can of tuna fish and put it in the toilet tank. A few days later the whole bathroom will smell like rotten fish. For a real long time!! And no one ever checks the toilet tank! Hehe. Yes, it was me! LOL.I kinda like it, but you are a sick fuck.
Good to see nice weather is back.
I did a lot of cruising around el Centro. After some shopping decided to finally give the ground zero some closer look, so I picked a random bar behind the Veracruz church and took a seat. Couple older locals inside. Ordered a beer (4 mil) and started to observe the scene. Nothing that caught my interest but after a while slim latte chica with very perky bouncing titties appears across the street. Me gusta. She stands with her not so attractive friend. Several vendors come by, I don't bite. An old run-down lady is selling some latches, I give her some coins.
As I finish the beer, one of the older guys that's also observing the scene already ordered another one for me. Wait what? Well 'no necessito, muchas gracias amigo', we clink the bottles and continue our activities. Oh no, the perky girl is on the move. Luckily she just goes in couple meters inside and seems to eat something. After a while she comes back out. OK finishing second beer and getting ready to move. I see the older guy flashing his eyes and starting to order me another one. Oh no you don't. I try to stop it but the they ignore my protestations and waitress opens it. Oh well, I thank him very much again, I say my goodbyes, bump the fist and go on my way with the beer. I do have a little buzz and not feeling like sessioning. I approach the perky chica. Hola como estas? Bien why tu? Muy bien. Whatsapp? I ask and handle her my phone. She puts the number in, I send my Hola, show it to her and move on. Don't really want to finish that beer so I give it to the homeless man browsing through trash bin near Botero Plaza.
I do some walking around and smoking and eventually decide to visit a strip club.
I observe the talent. After a while a cute-faced shortie comes by. Nice convo via translator. OK let's dance. We agree on 60 mil media hora. I ask for oral sin condon while at the table and she says si, no condon during the whole time, for a propina. Well, lady, you've had me at si.
Once the clothes come off though, it turns out she is a bit fat at the waist, nothing dramatic yet not great. Tits not very firm either. She gives quite good BBJ. I put a pillow under her hips and go in missionary while holding her at the ankles. Then quatro. Then she's on top. To my own surprise I can't come. I play with her pussy a bit. I stay hard so I go in again. Nope, there will be no pop here. I'm getting a bit of sweat on from all that pumping. Up until now I didn't have any trouble coming while bareback. Her attitude wasn't that great but she did soldier on. Well, I decide to call it shortly before the knock on the door. It wasn't bad just not. Hot. I could've asked her finish me off with a hand and I'the probably come but I didn't want to waste a good pop on that. Gave 20 mil propina and took some photos (first photo is her (quite dark in those rooms and my low-end burner doesn't help with quality).
I come back downstairs with blue balls.
Not too long after that a slim and young looking Vennie comes up to the stage. Great moves, great twerking. While she arrives for the tip I ask for her whatsapp. She's very happy to give it. I want to message her right then to leave my contact. Shit, the number is one digit short. Turning my neck to look for her. Nowhere to be found. Finally she comes out of the back, dressed surprisingly modestly, I flag her down, she's apologetic and corrects the error. I send my Hola, she responds after couple minutes.
I'm nursing my drink and wondering what to do next. I do want to get my rocks off today. Maybe I'll try to come back to that SW. While thinking, I receive a 'hola mi amor: on whatsapp from the Vennie. After a while she sends a kissing gif. She's sitting in the far end of the room across me and smiling. I like her attitude. I motion her to sit next to me. I like her vibe and body. We cuddle a bit. Let's go. 60 mil media hora.
She's hot and passionate in the room. Love her petite tight body. I undress her. Small hard titties. We take a shower. She finishes first, goes back to the room and puts on her panties. Then sticks her ass up to the mirror and does some poses. I come back, massage her pussy through the panties while she gives me a HJ looking at herself in a mirror. I pull down her panties to the knees and grind again her ass chicks and pussy. Condon goes on, and I try to enter. Boy she is tight. Slowly. Slowly. There we go. We get into the groove. She's very responsive, moaning and turning back to maintain eye contact. She starts massaging my balls while we're in a doggy. Then reaches with a finger behind my balls and massages a point there. It doesn't take much longer for me to pop. As I do, she reaches back and pulls me even deeper inside her. Wow. So I don't necessarily need a bareback, just a right girl. Definitely a repeat. (2nd and 3rd photo).Photos didn't attach in original post for some reason.
Their procedures obviously keep changing. Many years ago, if I asked to buy one ticket, they would sell me a paper ticket. But if I bought more than one ticket, they would give me a card. Then they did away with paper tickets and always gave me a card. Later, there was a one time charge for the card, which I was allowed to keep. Try buying four tickets the next time you go to the window and see if they will give, or sell, you a card.When arriving at the ticket booth you simply ask to buy a Civica card, I think it costs like 6,000 COP. You then have them load it up with a set amount of Pesos from which you use until you need to re-charge the card. Very simple as the Metro makes money selling you the card, which used to be free but you could only obtain at a few Stations like San Antonio. And given the long lines at times for people to re-charge their card, or those looking for a single ride, it's best to load the card up. I actually have two Civica cards which I use, and I routinely re-load them with 50,000 COP each. Sometimes the ticket lines can be long.
Change is good we often hear. In any case the civica fee is something in the neighborhood of 6,000 pesos. You can recharge it outside rush hour without waiting. The tranvia stations usually have shorter rush hour lines. In a pinch you can offer somebody cash to swipe you through but that can take a while because so many people charge their cards one fare at a time. To keep stress under control, I've learned to laugh at people who push past me to get to the turnstile only to discover they don't have enough on their civica to get in. I'm not a huge fan of the metro. I use it during rush hour because it's the only workaround for traffic jams. If you are small and / or elderly it's barely usable when it's crowded because people insist on crowding the doorways and they refuse to move when the doors open. My policy is a single "permiso" and a brief opportunity to give way. Then they get pushed aside. Interestingly enough, I find the minority of people who are 5'9" and taller more often move aside.
Their procedures obviously keep changing. Many years ago, if I asked to buy one ticket, they would sell me a paper ticket. But if I bought more than one ticket, they would give me a card. Then they did away with paper tickets and always gave me a card. Later, there was a one time charge for the card, which I was allowed to keep. Try buying four tickets the next time you go to the window and see if they will give, or sell, you a card.
Is it worth spending close to 100 COP with street girls in cheap hotels as compared to spending the same amount or 110 cop in casas where you are somewhat assured of better service and class? Surroundings are quite "upscale" too so one does not feel anxious and can focus on "task" LOL.
So what do you guy (s) think?For me the biggest advantage of casas / clubs is the ease of use and the safe environment. Very low hanging fruit with minimal risk (some girl might try to still brows through your wallet while you're in the shower so be vigilant). It helps if they know you're not here for a short time, so it might be wise to drop that in the conversation.
In the strip clubs you can also sit, chill and chat up a girl before deciding. The problem eventually is that the lineups in those places are relatively stable, so for novelty one needs to try other venues (and there might be some hurt feelings when you don't go with same girl as the last time). But there is plenty of establishments here so it will take you a long time to try them all.
As for the 'upscale' surroundings. Rooms in the cheaper centro stirp clubs are pretty bad. Casas usually have nicer rooms but don't expect too much. Love motel (not a short-time fuck motel) would be probably better choice for nicer rooms.
Well, let me give you my subjective ratings of rooms in centro stip clubs I've been (from best to worst):
Barra, Conejitas, Occidental, Nueva Avenida, Hilton.
And line-ups quality (*very* subjective): Barra, Nueva Avenida, Occidental, Conejitas, Hilton.
Their procedures obviously keep changing. Many years ago, if I asked to buy one ticket, they would sell me a paper ticket. But if I bought more than one ticket, they would give me a card. Then they did away with paper tickets and always gave me a card. Later, there was a one time charge for the card, which I was allowed to keep. Try buying four tickets the next time you go to the window and see if they will give, or sell, you a card."Things" change so often around here (I am in Medellin) that many times if your info if more than a few months old, it will need to be re-verified. And another poihnt I have posted on before, when you speak to government officials here, depends on who, where, what day of the week, and whether or not they kicked their dog that morning on the answer you will get.
I have literally sat across from two desks that were touching each other, talking to two government officials (about immigration) with each one telling me an opposite answer. They obviously could both see and hear each other, but no attempt was made to reconcile their answers. File that under, "Welcome to Colombia". Jajajajajaaa.
Mechanic88
07-30-22, 18:09
Anyone going to Medellin soon that would do me a favor of taking a phone to a friend? I brought a phone back that my friend let me borrow and I need to send it back.
It is really funny when the old guys "invite you" after talking for a little at the bar and then the drinks don't stop LOL.
You are busted, jaja. Why does it have to be "old guys"? Don't you know it's a federal violation to discriminate on the basis of age, jajajajajaja. Except we are not in Pussy Prison, are we, so those rules do not apply.
Profiling, like generalizations are usually based on a majority truth, so I feel you and I may resemble that remark by age demographic, but not by drinking nor Social Security income.
I do however have to drug and damage my brain cells in order to be able to relate to 99.99% of the population, definitely and moreso including here, but that's perhaps a story for another day. As I have been on the record here more than once, intelligence is more a hindrance than a help in this game. The proof is in the pudding, just look at all the "successful" mongerers who surround us here.
I kid you, Johnny, because I know you get it.
Ostee Out and Keep On Keepin' On.
Not-so-random gratuitous foto: MarvelousMotelMaiden (knod to Villiany for the MMM moniker) returns for the third time. We are supposedly headed out to another overnight fabulous finca fiesta in Guatape, same organizers as before. Last time was one of the best parties I ever attended. I shared a room with 4 chicas but no sex. This time, have prearranged for two guaranteed chicas including MMM. Both have been test-fucked already, and the chica to chico ratio is much greater than one, compared to the sausage fest at the last fiesta.
However, at this moment, the organizers have grown strangely dark and quiet, so we shall see, am I getting ripped off or is this just another example of Colombian time relativity? No matter what happens, MMM is here for the duration, so there will be joy in Asti-ville tonight.
She is a rare beauty at which it is hard not to stare. I have never explained my system or "The List" to anyone so soon as her, meaning I am anticipating a spot for her. She is all in including knowing that my Numero Uno Novia Catgirl will always be Number One.
Her personality exudes sexiness and friendliness at the same time, a very rare combination. She asked for and got 200 mil COP upfront from me (told you she would show, jeje) to feed and care for her three kids while we are away this weekend. A very reasonable amount to request.
Snakeskin Adidas in foreground, noted. Got to meet her older sister, too, sitting in the chair next to her. MMM is definitely the winner.
I don't care what anyone says but some of yall especially Mr E always got the smartest and best replies LOL. That ongoing and famous FB topic, sight!. I think we need a whole new section just for those. Anyhow, back to MDE in few weeks as the debauchery continues.I have to repeat myself with, and the point of your post is what? That one of these guys plagiarized the other? Because that's what you showed. Identical answers on two different posts from two different users. I am not willing to take the time to click on the "original post" links and figure out what is supposedly going on, I have better things to do with my time.
Geez, I am not sure this eliminating my Ignore List is going to work out for me like I thought. I had the idea of using it as a lesson for personal growth, but I don't seem to be able to control myself from wasting more time here. I guess that's my problem to solve.
Day 5:What do you use to schedule? I need some resources.
Thanks.
MaddTraveler
07-31-22, 00:46
Thank you very much for the excellent and simple reports. Really nice.
A question I have for you and centro rats is this. Is it worth spending close to 100 COP with street girls in cheap hotels as compared to spending the same amount or 110 cop in casas where you are somewhat assured of better service and class? Surroundings are quite "upscale" too so one does not feel anxious and can focus on "task" LOL.
So what do you guy (s) think?As a Centro rat I'm fully qualified to answer this as well LOL. In my experience the previous answers are OK, as in it's safer in the casas w guaranteed svc if you don't want any unpleasant surprises, etc. But, if I were to choose it'd be the street all day. The main reason is the variety, more choices and most importantly less restrictions. Freelancers are always better in general, of course only if you know how to vet them property and have experience on knowing how to negotiate. Also initially my main logic was that I always imagined the better looking ones in the casas are getting 10-50 dicks daily (not exaggerating), turning mechanical after the 5th hard fuck. But when you're posting in the street or if you go early you get lucky more often with new fine honeys who has fucked yet for that day. The upsell fees are always less or free at times in the street vs the casas / clubs.
Agree with you. Safe and clean environment is my requirement as well.
For me the biggest advantage of casas / clubs is the ease of use and the safe environment. Very low hanging fruit with minimal risk (some girl might try to still brows through your wallet while you're in the shower so be vigilant). It helps if they know you're not here for a short time, so it might be wise to drop that in the conversation.
In the strip clubs you can also sit, chill and chat up a girl before deciding. The problem eventually is that the lineups in those places are relatively stable, so for novelty one needs to try other venues (and there might be some hurt feelings when you don't go with same girl as the last time). But there is plenty of establishments here so it will take you a long time to try them all.
As for the 'upscale' surroundings. Rooms in the cheaper centro stirp clubs are pretty bad. Casas usually have nicer rooms but don't expect too much. Love motel (not a short-time fuck motel) would be probably better choice for nicer rooms..
A question I have for you and centro rats is this. Is it worth spending close to 100 COP with street girls in cheap hotels as compared to spending the same amount or 110 cop in casas where you are somewhat assured of better service and class? Surroundings are quite "upscale" too so one does not feel anxious and can focus on "task" LOL.It's a mixed bag. Casas have much better service and safety, but there's a limited lineup and severe competition during peak hours. I'm not a huge fan of the quick breeze in and out lineup method of casas, especially when it comes to remembering names. They should all use numbers like that one place.
Street girls can range widely and wildly in all ways, but there's also thrill of the hunt too. I'd say the price on the lower end for street girls is actually closer to 30 k+8 k room (compared to the 55 k in a casa) but a gringo upcharge isn't uncommon. There's a wider range and more variety in the streets too.
Well, let me give you my subjective ratings of rooms in centro stip clubs I've been (from best to worst):
Barra, Conejitas, Occidental, Nueva Avenida, Hilton.Of the clubs I've been too, I'd agree with that rough lineup. I find the price tracks accordingly to quality too.
GiuseppeBonera
07-31-22, 05:21
Day 2 in Medellin headed to la isla. Little pricey to get in 70 k and 30 k for a beer. As far as the scene, high quality girls around 30+ at 10:30 with more showing up. I didn't like the stripers constantly asking for propina even though I was not even looking most of the (I am looking for hotel action) but was able to keep from tipping a few times saying I had just arrived. Anyway called over one Paisa and she called her friend to join also Paisa. They quoted 1. 3 million each for all night I got them down to 1 m each. Paid the 200 k exit fee for each. Again no issues getting the girls in at the Marriott no one even checked for ids and Evan ordered room service. Great session even though no BBBJ. These girls Rosalie and Sara both very hot morenas Sara more natural and Rosalie with implants good combo since they are friends.
I'm not a huge fan of the quick breeze in and out lineup method of casas, especially when it comes to remembering names. They should all use numbers like that one place.
That's why I always say, bring a pen and notepad with you when you go to a casa with a real line-up. Unless you are The Amazing Kreskin, you will not be able to remember the girls, their details, and which ones you like. How you remember, track or score them, that is up to you.
GeneHickman
07-31-22, 07:48
Reminds me of a revenge trick I have used. When I go to a strip club with poor service I crack open a pop-top can of tuna fish and put it in the toilet tank. A few days later the whole bathroom will smell like rotten fish. For a real long time!! And no one ever checks the toilet tank! Hehe. Yes, it was me! LOL.Never realized that what the security checks were about at the strip clubs.
Never realized that what the security checks were about at the strip clubs.I'm completely amazed by the whole idea. Who brings tuna to a strip club? What do you do if the strip club has the tankless toilets? Won't a can of tuna sink in water? How many times would you need to do this to learn that nobody thinks about checking the toilet tank?
Why bother? Sometimes the service in an establishment is bad. I don't imagine that the establishment intends to provide bad service. It's difficult to maintain a business which depends on customer service if you try to provide bad service. However, even in the best places there are times when the service sucks.
In some situations talking with a manager will improve the situation. If that's not an option walk away. If you're really disgruntled leave an honest review (one which focuses solely on the problem area, rather than one which trashes everything about the place) and, if they have a social media account, tag it.
Sabotaging the place doesn't accomplish anything. Nobody is going to connect finding a hidden can of tuna with the one time when one employee provided bad service to one customer. No manager is going to decide to focus on improving customer service because of some smelly tuna.
I just got back from Medellin and have a lot of different thoughts about my week-long trip, which was incredible. I'm going to write a few different posts instead of one longer one so people can read what interests them and skip as wanted. I'll start off with my thoughts about nonpros and approach them on Facebook. Over my trips to Medellin I've increasingly gravitated towards nonpros and semipros and away from pros since I have the best experiences with nonpro and semipro girls. I've got around 800 Facebook friends and I decided to spend the time sorting them into nonpro and pro friend groups before my trip in order to optimize my odds of meeting nonpros and semipros. I used criteria for IDing these girls I've written about previously so I won't summarize her (search my earlier posts). I ended up with a list of about 200 I thought were nonpros, messaged the 35 hottest on the list, got responses from about 12, and ended up with longer chats with eight. Of the eight I met four. I ultimately repeated heavily with my two favorites since I really enjoyed their company but could have easily seen more girls. Since I'm a fluent Spanish speaker, I talked a bit about their experiences on Facebook, why they talked to me and all as well.
First and foremost, to be clear, even average-looking girls are receiving a load of messages and a lot of messages asking for naked pics, offering them money etc. One woman I met actually showed me her Facebook and she had over 100 friend requests and a load of messages. If you are targeting a nonpro be polite, be a gentleman, come off as a normal person and ask them about their lives. The girls who I chatted with thought I was attractive based on my photos, but they all commented that they decided to meet me because I was polite to them and seemed normal. My current #1 chick (who is a cam girl so she is not a complete nonpro and I don't include her in the four above) also has stressed to me many times that she really likes me because I've always been a gentleman with her.
Secondly, be honest about what you are looking for with them. You'd be surprised what many will accept. The two chicas I spent the majority of my time with know I'm married / in an open relationship and know that they are not the only women I'm seeing and are cool with that. One of them wanted to spend my last night with me and I told her I was going to be spending it with someone else, who I'd know longer and she was cool with that too.
Thirdly, I'm now more keyed in on how they dress on their profiles as a sure sign that they are nonpros. A lot of photos in normal clothes, maybe with a few in bathing suits is a great sign they are nonpro.
Fourthly, as others have said on the forum be prepared in some cases to go out on dates or to not get sex. I don't mind dates as I speak Spanish and am actively trying to learn everything I can about Colombian culture. They may even ask to bring a friend on the date, which happened to me on one case. For me, lunch / coffee and taxis are cheap so I don't mind. I had a couple who were willing to come to my apartment off the bat. I offer to cook for them as a way of getting them there without being creepy. One of those girls ended up coming to my apartment and drinking and talking with me without sex, which I didn't mind at all. She ultimately didn't have sex with me because I'm in an open relationship and she didn't like that (was even bargaining that we could be in a thruple with my wife at one point if I closed my relationship).
Fifthly, I made a great friend / got a tour guide with one girl who I decided I didn't want to sleep with. She took me to San Felix, Comuna 13, the teleferico, and shopping in centro. All I did was pay her taxis and buy her some food and drink on our site seeing excursions. Finding someone like that is a great way to see the sites.
Sixthly, you will spend money and time on dates so going with a pro may be the preferred option for some. I always paid taxis for girls and offered to pay the babysitter if they had kids. Taxis and babysitter should come out to less than 100 k in most cases. You may want to give some of them a gift too. One of my repeat girls is a baker who makes 1 million a month and is obviously struggling to get by with her family. I gave her an extra regalo after the first time I saw her and she was grateful. Later I would just pay her taxis or send a car for her and she didn't mind that either.
Finally, I learned a lot more about Colombian dating and relationships this trip. Relationship dynamics in Medellin are pretty fucked up. Its common for women to shack up at 13,14, 15 to men in their mid to late 20's (or older). Two of the women I met had long-term relationships with richer men (estrata 4) that started that way. They both were cheated on so much that they separated and now are single moms in estrata 2. This is in addition to the absentee dads (know many like that from this and previous trips), and controlling and financially manipulative relationships (this seems common with the cam girls). These chicas love honesty so much because they are so used to cheating and lies.
I just got back from Medellin and have a lot of different thoughts about my week-long trip, which was incredible. I'm going to write a few different posts instead of one longer one so people can read what interests them and skip as wanted. I'll start off with my thoughts about nonpros and approach them on Facebook. Over my trips to Medellin I've increasingly gravitated towards nonpros and semipros and away from pros since I have the best experiences with nonpro and semipro girls. I've got around 800 Facebook friends and I decided to spend the time sorting them into nonpro and pro friend groups before my trip in order to optimize my odds of meeting nonpros and semipros. I used criteria for IDing these girls I've written about previously so I won't summarize her (search my earlier posts). I ended up with a list of about 200 I thought were nonpros, messaged the 35 hottest on the list, got responses from about 12, and ended up with longer chats with eight. Of the eight I met four. I ultimately repeated heavily with my two favorites since I really enjoyed their company but could have easily seen more girls. Since I'm a fluent Spanish speaker, I talked a bit about their experiences on Facebook, why they talked to me and all as well.
First and foremost, to be clear, even average-looking girls are receiving a load of messages and a lot of messages asking for naked pics, offering them money etc. One woman I met actually showed me her Facebook and she had over 100 friend requests and a load of messages. If you are targeting a nonpro be polite, be a gentleman, come off as a normal person and ask them about their lives. The girls who I chatted with thought I was attractive based on my photos, but they all commented that they decided to meet me because I was polite to them and seemed normal. My current #1 chick (who is a cam girl so she is not a complete nonpro and I don't include her in the four above) also has stressed to me many times that she really likes me because I've always been a gentleman with her.
Secondly, be honest about what you are looking for with them. You'd be surprised what many will accept. The two chicas I spent the majority of my time with know I'm married / in an open relationship and know that they are not the only women I'm seeing and are cool with that. One of them wanted to spend my last night with me and I told her I was going to be spending it with someone else, who I'd know longer and she was cool with that too.Your advice on being polite, treating them well, being a gentleman, applies universally. Whether she's working the street in El Centro or working in her own law firm, whatever interaction you have is improved by simply treating others well.
I had an amazing experience at Las Piscinas swingers club on my last night with my #1 girl who is a camgirl, has onlyfans and wants to be a "famous pornstar". Our trip there was completely spontaneous as we'd been talking after sex / shooting some homemade porn and she mentioned one of her biggest fantasies was to go to a swingers club. This is something I'd always been interested in as well so I proposed that we go together on the spot and lose our swinger club virginity together. We chose Las Piscinas because it has a good reputation and is located in Belen, not so far from Laureles. But there are a number of other clubs as well. The cover there was 80 k per couple on the night we went with a minimum of 70 k consumption. I spent 200 k for a half bottle of rum, coke, and cigarettes for her. They give you a locker where you leave your clothes and phones and towels to wear (as you want) in the club itself. I'd highly recommend going to Las Pisciinas or another swingers club relatively early if it's your first time. We got there around 10 pm and there was only one other couple and a single guy there. For me at least, this was a good way to explore the facilities and ease into things before things get too crazy.
Las Piscinas is split on two levels. They have a turkish bath, huge jacuzzi, bondage room, stripper poles all over the place, and other semiprivate rooms in addition to the main open space. My girl and I explored the space first. She danced for me on the pole for a while and I also went down on her in the smoking room. But we ultimately spent most of our time having sex in and around the huge jacuzzi. The weirdest part of the night for me was when a single guy came into the jacuzzi near us and was jerking off. I lost my boner at that point. But my girl is such an exhibitionist that she loved it. After a while, the place starts to fill up, mostly with other couples (there were only like 2 single guys that I saw). There is a mix ranging from attractive to unattractive. By the time we left there were four other couples having sex around us in the jacuzzi.
In any case, the experience is not for everybody but if you are comfortable with yourself and are with the right person, as was my case, it can be amazing. My girl was super happy the whole time. For long stretches, it was almost like going out to a dance club only we were having sex. I can still picture her singing along to bad bunny and carol g with a huge smile on her face as she bounced on top of me in the jacuzzi.
Like I told earlier, if I do silly things I will tell you.
Graffiti tour in Communa 13. It was great. So many impressions. Had a guide the was only Spanish but my chicka translated some of what he was telling. 97 mil for a tour of a couple of hours. Music and art everywhere. Then we took the teleferico to Roblado where she lives. I wanted a quiet moment with her just cooling down and rest from all impressions and all walking up and down the hill. Then some amigos of her came by and they all started talking in Spanish. I wasn't able to concentrate on anything. She bought a maruiana cigarette and I had one inhale from that. Then the day started to deteriorate. I got a bit dizzy and she orderd an Indrive back to Poblado. She stayed for a while but had to go home to feed her dog. I think her plan was to go feed the dog and then go with me, but when I got dizzy she wisely just wanted me out of the barrio. Well, silly me ruining what could have been a nice night. Got to sleep alone early and woke up in the middle of the night with anxiety. Never moore maruiana for me.
Hasta manana.
I yam what I yam, and still learning. Popeye, not making the most of this day.
Day 7.
Like I told earlier, if I do silly things I will tell you.
Graffiti tour in Communa 13. It was great. So many impressions. Had a guide the was only Spanish but my chicka translated some of what he was telling. 97 mil for a tour of a couple of hours. Music and art everywhere. Then we took the teleferico to Roblado where she lives. I wanted a quiet moment with her just cooling down and rest from all impressions and all walking up and down the hill. Then some amigos of her came by and they all started talking in Spanish. I wasn't able to concentrate on anything. She bought a maruiana cigarette and I had one inhale from that. Then the day started to deteriorate. I got a bit dizzy and she orderd an Indrive back to Poblado. She stayed for a while but had to go home to feed her dog. I think her plan was to go feed the dog and then go with me, but when I got dizzy she wisely just wanted me out of the barrio. Well, silly me ruining what could have been a nice night. Got to sleep alone earoy and woke up in the middle of the night with anxiety. Never moore maruiana for me.
Hasta manana.
I yam what I yam. Popeye, not making the most of this day.Your wise not to take any more puffs. They have some weed here I think they call Crepa which is laced with a chemical. I'm not an expert on this, and I know we have some resident experts here on this, but the stuff can kick the shit out of you. I don't know if that was what they had, you may of just been wore out from your tour and perhaps the altitude.
Mr Enternational
07-31-22, 15:46
I always imagined the better looking ones in the casas are getting 10-50 dicks daily (not exaggerating),Definitely your imagination. Go sit in a casa at lunch time for 1 hour and count how many dudes come in. Then go sit in a casa when people get off work and count how many dudes come in. Then average the two peak time numbers. You really think any chick in the place is fucking from 10 to 50 guys per day? Hell even the time would not allow that. 10 1-hour sessions? The casas are not even open 10 hours.
Hasta manana.
I yam what I yam, and still learning. Popeye, not making the most of this day.Perhaps you are just a smidge too much self-aware, but hey, not a problem, I think we are all enjoying your reports. No reason to change up and possibly tip the apple cart other than a minor tweak, maybe time for a can of spinach, jajajaja?
A bad day in Medellin beats most good days back in Pussy Prison US of A. And I have noticed, the off-days never seem to last more than a day, and the rebound is usually fantastic.
My fabulous finca party never materialized and I lost my deposit of slightly less than $90 USD for three people. I believe the organizers were not being duplicitous and trying to rip me off. They are a very friendly, young married couple in their early 20's, and they simply got in over their heads with their organizational and planning skills. When they told me on the day of event they were "still waiting for people to get off work to collect the money" I predicted failure and told them when you wait until the last minute to collect your cash, there will be too many no-shows, and that's exactly what happened. They say the event has been rescheduled but I won't be here. Live and learn for all of us. They typically and annoyingly message me 40-50 times per day, so I blocked their Whassap.
I am headed over to Ground Zero for a two-hour session with my GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-To-Girl). I like to be spontaneous and we have been doing somewhat different things each session. Here's an idea. I've been running lapjs on her (all three holes each session). What if we see how many laps I can run on her before she taps out?? Mouth-pussy-ass, mouth-pussy-ass, mouth-ass-pussy-ass, mouth-ass-pussy, jeje, you get the idea.
Except odds on any bet would be that this little sex machine will not tap out, jejejeje.
Keep On Keepin' On my Brother in HiJinx. The Force is strong with you, jeje.
Definitely your imagination. Go sit in a casa at lunch time for 1 hour and count how many dudes come in. Then go sit in a casa when people get off work and count how many dudes come in. Then average the two peak time numbers. You really think any chick in the place is fucking from 10 to 50 guys per day? Hell even the time would not allow that. 10 1-hour sessions? The casas are not even open 10 hours.Exactly, how the hell could a chica get 50 dicks on 8 h workday? Even assuming 30 min which is the minimum session and considering all the downtime in between, getting ready, food breaks, showers, dressing up etc it already comes up close to an hour.
Strip club chicas get nailed even less from what I noticed, mainly on Saturday and Friday evenings. Saturday is the only time I had to wait for room to free up or had trouble finding a free place to sit. But even then the majority of the girls are just providing a company for drinks.
Sometimes its worth trying to reconnect with girls you had a good time with even if they are flaky. Sometimes they are going through stuff in their life and can't make things work with you vs. Have a bad attitude. This was the case with a girl I saw back in March (E in earlier posts and the webcam and only fans girl in the swinger in the La Piscina post).
E was someone I felt like I had excellent chemistry and connection with back in March but had issues meeting up with again. I offered to make her dinner when I first met and we had a great date. I like to do little tests during sex and foreplay to see how a woman is responding to me. One thing I'll do is pull back from a kiss too and see if the girl follows me. The first time I met E she was all over me kissing me and would follow me when I pulled back. There were all kinds of other signs that made me feel like we had a genuine connection. I'd offered to pay her expenses and she gave me that classic line "the me lo que quieres", which I'd associate with a semipro. Anyway, she had various things happen like her cat dying and a move that made it impossible for her to see me again after the first date in March despite me trying. This left me disappointed and she confided in me this time that she felt bad about it as well and was sure I'd never want to see her again either.
Despite those issues last trip, I decided to send her a message on messenger this time to see if she'd be up for meeting up again. I was hanging out with another board member at the time so I asked if she had a friend who wanted to meet him as well. She said yes and we arranged to have a party at my apartment for the four of us.
Anyway, she's a bit of a party girl and had been robbed on la 70 the night before we met. Someone drugged her and a friend and stole their phones, money in purses and ID. She told me she was a bit sad and was unsure that she'd be good company but wanted to distract herself from the issue. I told her I'd be happy to listen to her if she wanted to talk about and also would be happy to distract her. Afterward she told me that she was really moved by my response and that it, along with how I'd treated her the first time we met gave her a very good impression of me.
There was a lot of drama involved with the night at first, but everything ended up amazingly. Firstly, since her phone was robbed arranging transportation was more complicated. I sent her an uber to her house, which was a bit touch and go for a while but the driver waited for her and brought her to us. Then, because she'd just been robbed she didn't have her cedula or a denuncia for a new one. She had a driver's license but my apartment (edificio Moderatto) didn't accept that as valid ID. So we had to be flexible and ended up renting another hotel room for the party. It also took the friend we'd invited for the other BM forever to find us. The other board member, E and I hung out and had a few beers at Punta Arena an international brew place, while we waited for her friend. We managed to distract E while we waited for the friend, though. After her friend arrived we took a taxi to a nearby love hotel and from there switched to a nearby hotel (since that would be cheaper due to them covering by room vs. Person). The friend I got for the other BM also did webcam, onlyfans etc.
Anyway, once we brought a couple bottles of rum and ordered coke and some food and cigarettes from rappi up to the room. Once we actually started the party it was a lot of fun. We pretty much drank, had sex and listened to music until 4 am. E had been using condoms with me before but midway through things told me she'd been tested and was on birth control so she wanted to do BBFS with me. Seems like once they like you these girls always want that. At 4 we got a taxi for E's friend and went to get something to eat on La 70 at a bakery.
E didn't cover me any money since she said we were good friends but said the other BM should give her friend something since they'd just met.
I realize that the whole night was a crazy night that could have gone badly at several points. But by being cool, flexible and going with the flow I ended up having a great time. E went out with me again after that including to the swingers club and has never asked for money from me. She has even been saying I can stay at her house next time I come (probably won't take her up on that).
My conclusions from the experience are 1) sometimes it pays to reconnect with someone you had a good experience with earlier even if they are flaky 2) go with the flow and relax 3) do always be careful. I know the situation I just described could have gone sideways at several points during the night. During this time I was drinking but did not get sloppy drunk. I also don't partake in other drugs, so I felt in control of myself and my surroundings. We did end up spending money on the hotel room, taxis around and drinks / food from rappi. But I considered it worth the price to the quality of the company and sex.
They have some weed here I think they call Crepa which is laced with a chemical..I smoked some weed with one my casa regulars the other day, I asked what kind it is and I she said something sounding like Crepa now that you mention that. Not a regular user and it's been a while so I took only two puffs for a 'museum dose'. Man, was I glad it was a short walk back home, that shit was strong.
She brought a big bag of what she said was about 7 grams and that she paid for it 10 mil in barrio.
Didn't know it was laced with chemicals, not planning to repeat it.
AmorPorFavor
07-31-22, 18:17
Day 2 in Medellin headed to la isla. Little pricey to get in 70 k and 30 k for a beer. As far as the scene, high quality girls around 30+ at 10:30 with more showing up. I didn't like the stripers constantly asking for propina even though I was not even looking most of the (I am looking for hotel action) but was able to keep from tipping a few times saying I had just arrived. Anyway called over one Paisa and she called her friend to join also Paisa. They quoted 1. 3 million each for all night I got them down to 1 m each. Paid the 200 k exit fee for each. Again no issues getting the girls in at the Marriott no one even checked for ids and Evan ordered room service. Great session even though no BBBJ. These girls Rosalie and Sara both very hot morenas Sara more natural and Rosalie with implants good combo since they are friends.Sounds like a great night. So the Marriott is completely GF? Or did you just get lucky to sneak them in. I actually prefer an ID check. Wondering if you had their ID's checked if there would be an issue?
I went to Fantasias Energy with another board member. He wanted to do a "high end" casa and was talking about Loutron. I hadn't been to Fantasias Energy yet, and figured that would be easier to do since it was in Laureles. This was technically the only paid sex I had this trip. They are currently charging 170 k for an hour. I don't think the place is worth it in comparison to other casas and I've concluded casas aren't for me personally. I didn't see a huge difference in the quality of girls and / or facilities in comparison to New Life, which I visited in 2020. This time the other BM beat me to the hottest girl in their lineup of 5. I chose a red head that was probably the second hottest. She had a decent body, a tiny bit of belly fat. But of course, she had rules like no kissing and tried to upsell me for BBBJ (wanted 130 k more). The covered BJ was good and everything was fine by which this girl was doing her job well as she understood it. But I didn't cum and the girl even asked me why I was so serious after the session (it was because I wasn't that into it). In my opinion, the casa experience really has nothing on the types of experiences I've become accustomed to with semipros and nonpros or even some of the good Facebook pros I've seen in the past. If I were to go back to a casa it probably would be one of the normal / cheaper ones as I don't think Fantasias energy does much to justify the higher price.
Spa energy a few times. Feel like the service has declined since my last visit. Mechanical, restrictions and generally mediocre at best service. One chica attempted to upcharge the CBJ LOL. Visually the lineup is still fine. Most have an hourglass body type. 130 hh 160 h.
Photoprepago. Poor service and leaving early. Girls with average faces. Not really worth it.
Tried casas in Centro. Chock full of locals on Saturday, 5+ punters in the waiting area.
AmorPorFavor
07-31-22, 18:44
For me the biggest advantage of casas / clubs is the ease of use and the safe environment. Very low hanging fruit with minimal risk (some girl might try to still brows through your wallet while you're in the shower so be vigilant). It helps if they know you're not here for a short time, so it might be wise to drop that in the conversation.
In the strip clubs you can also sit, chill and chat up a girl before deciding. The problem eventually is that the lineups in those places are relatively stable, so for novelty one needs to try other venues (and there might be some hurt feelings when you don't go with same girl as the last time). But there is plenty of establishments here so it will take you a long time to try them all.
As for the 'upscale' surroundings. Rooms in the cheaper centro stirp clubs are pretty bad. Casas usually have nicer rooms but don't expect too much. Love motel (not a short-time fuck motel) would be probably better choice for nicer rooms.
Well, let me give you my subjective ratings of rooms in centro stip clubs I've been (from best to worst):
Barra, Conejitas, Occidental, Nueva Avenida, Hilton.
And line-ups quality (*very* subjective): Barra, Nueva Avenida, Occidental, Conejitas, Hilton.Good info on the strip clubs. Can you provide ratings of the room quality of the love motels? I like to fuck in a nice environment with a clean room and bed.
Good info on the strip clubs. Can you provide ratings of the room quality of the love motels? I like to fuck in a nice environment with a clean room and bed.I'll leave it to the other members as I don't have much personal experience with that, only what I read on the forum and photos online. I believe Hotel Ibiza is considered one of the best here.
And just to clarify. It's not like the rooms aren't cleaned each time, it's just that the standard is generally low for western sensibilities and bathrooms can look pretty unappealing too. Most often no showerhead or warm water as well.
Perhaps you are just a smidge too much self-aware, but hey, not a problem, I think we are all enjoying your reports. No reason to change up and possibly tip the apple cart other than a minor tweak, maybe time for a can of spinach, jajajaja?
A bad day in Medellin beats most good days back in Pussy Prison US of A. And I have noticed, the off-days never seem to last more than a day, and the rebound is usually fantastic.The day really wasn't that bad. It did not just end the way I had wanted. But hey, I'm still learning. And today is another day to fulfil.
Sorry to hear about the party. But you seem to make the most of your days anyhow. Thanks for the nick and the nice feedback!
Popeye out, para comprar unas espinacas.
Day 2 in Medellin headed to la isla. Little pricey to get in 70 k and 30 k for a beer. As far as the scene, high quality girls around 30+ at 10:30 with more showing up. I didn't like the stripers constantly asking for propina even though I was not even looking most of the (I am looking for hotel action) but was able to keep from tipping a few times saying I had just arrived. Anyway called over one Paisa and she called her friend to join also Paisa. They quoted 1. 3 million each for all night I got them down to 1 m each. Paid the 200 k exit fee for each. Again no issues getting the girls in at the Marriott no one even checked for ids and Evan ordered room service. Great session even though no BBBJ. These girls Rosalie and Sara both very hot morenas Sara more natural and Rosalie with implants good combo since they are friends.You are overpaying out the ying yang.
A shortcut workaround some may find useful for making casa selections is to only remember the names and girls you may want to select and immediately forget those you don't. Our minds have limited powers of recall. When a girl you find undesirable approaches you, greet her with whatever variation of a nod or handshake the casa is using then forget her right away. When a girl you see as a possibility appears, remember her name. It narrows the list considerably and makes much more efficient use of memory. It's not that often you need to remember more than a handful. Also, the casas will ask the girls to come out all at once or one at a time a second time on request.
It's a mixed bag. Casas have much better service and safety, but there's a limited lineup and severe competition during peak hours. I'm not a huge fan of the quick breeze in and out lineup method of casas, especially when it comes to remembering names. They should all use numbers like that one place.
Street girls can range widely and wildly in all ways, but there's also thrill of the hunt too. I'd say the price on the lower end for street girls is actually closer to 30 k+8 k room (compared to the 55 k in a casa) but a gringo upcharge isn't uncommon. There's a wider range and more variety in the streets too.
Of the clubs I've been too, I'd agree with that rough lineup. I find the price tracks accordingly to quality too.
Mr. E, you just eroded the myth of the pure as driven snow facebook girls who are worth 4 to 5 times the price of their casa equivalents because they "have less mileage. " Those long waits and ghost events are just them saving themselves for the special time with their favorite customer.
Definitely your imagination. Go sit in a casa at lunch time for 1 hour and count how many dudes come in. Then go sit in a casa when people get off work and count how many dudes come in. Then average the two peak time numbers. You really think any chick in the place is fucking from 10 to 50 guys per day? Hell even the time would not allow that. 10 1-hour sessions? The casas are not even open 10 hours.
I have an upcoming trip to Medellin starting in September. My first. I'm planning to hang out for 4 weeks.
Place to stay: What do you think of Sheraton Four Points or Marriot. If I pay for double occupancy will I have difficulties bringing guests who will register at the front desk.
Best Ways to Meet Girls Online Prior To arrival: Recently, I signed up for Tinder. Chatted with several girls, however, reading posts from others, it seems Facebook may be a better option. Does FB have a passport feature similar to Tinder where my profile will be displayed. How does one meet girls who are not on my contact list. In other words, how does one get a stack of girls to browse through from a specific locale.
Sorry for the basic questions. Would really appreciate some feedback.
Information is power.
I smoked some weed with one my casa regulars the other day, I asked what kind it is and I she said something sounding like Crepa now that you mention that. Not a regular user and it's been a while so I took only two puffs for a 'museum dose'. Man, was I glad it was a short walk back home, that shit was strong.
She brought a big bag of what she said was about 7 grams and that she paid for it 10 mil in barrio.
Didn't know it was laced with chemicals, not planning to repeat it.
Elvis 2008
08-01-22, 02:06
They quoted 1. 3 million each for all night I got them down to 1 m each. Paid the 200 k exit fee for each. Again no issues getting the girls in at the Marriott no one even checked for ids and Evan ordered room service. Great session even though no BBBJ. These girls Rosalie and Sara both very hot morenas Sara more natural and Rosalie with implants good combo since they are friends.It is good to see the Marriott has changed their guest policy; it it my favorite hotel in Medellin.
And pulling two hotties out of La Isla for $230 apiece for the night is a good rate. I paid $80 an hour for a beauty from there and a different girl asked for $160 for the hour, so you did fine. The guys who question how much you paid have no clue what quality is. When I went to La Isla, it was the single greatest collection of beautiful women in Colombia I had seen. I had heard it went downhill and then up again.
Guys want to compare the rates of women to those glue sniffers in El Centro but some of us are and were willing to pay for beauty. They do not understand that if you want a woman like this in the USA, it is $1000 an hour. https://tryst.link/escort/mira_1.
So $230 for the whole night for a comparable woman is a bargain. The guys who criticize you see no difference between a woman from La Isla and one in Centro.
You are overpaying out the ying yang.1 million each and no BBBJ. Might be the most absurd thing I've ever read on here.
Mr Enternational
08-01-22, 02:23
1 million each and no BBBJ. Might be the most absurd thing I've ever read on here.2. 4 million pesos? $560? I am glad that my dick works onsite and I don't need to take pussy to a special place to fuck it.
How does one go about finding and adding Medellin women on FB while he is stateside before he goes? I'm about 3 weeks out and have a lot of work to do! Any help, even a phone call would be very appreciated if anyone is willing to spend a few minutes on the phone. I know I know RTFF but it's like 1600 pages! Who has that kinda time! It's not like it's divided up into nice categories like: phones, money exchange, lodging, FL's, casas, FB, websites ect. (would be really nice if someone put together a guide). I'm mostly interested in FB women, semi and nonpros. I'd like to avoid casas, el centro, I. E. Picking up girls right on the street. I'll be in town for 2 months to legit study Spanish and women are a secondary priority. Seriously any help, a beginners guide, basic info, a meet up in Medellin would be more than appreciated.
A shortcut workaround some may find useful for making casa selections is to only remember the names and girls you may want to select and immediately forget those you don't. Our minds have limited powers of recall. When a girl you find undesirable approaches you, greet her with whatever variation of a nod or handshake the casa is using then forget her right away. When a girl you see as a possibility appears, remember her name. It narrows the list considerably and makes much more efficient use of memory. It's not that often you need to remember more than a handful. Also, the casas will ask the girls to come out all at once or one at a time a second time on request.Remember certain names and forget the others. Brilliant. There is no mnemonic device in your example. And how do you know when you choose to "remember" a girl, that a subsequent girl won't supplant your opinion? Or that the one you didn't notice at first turns out to be one of the better choices? Oh, that's right, you have to remember to forget, or forget to remember, jajajaja.
Have you ever taken a step back to look at how much of what you write, is drivel at best?
Here's the problem with guys who exhibit your type of "Knowledge". You get it right roughly half the time. I can toss a coin and get the same result. A person who is wrong all the time is more valuable because then I can do the opposite. With you it's a crap shoot. You remind me of FunLover. I probably wouldn't even give your posts more than a passing glance now that I have eliminated my Ignore List. That's where you were and belonged. But if you are going to take the extra step to give yourself a username with meaning, then at least back it up with some semblance of reality. To me, you appear delusional. If you username was "Fancypants" or "sneezesalot" or something nonsensical like "osteoknot" then I could cut you some slack. But "Knowledge?" Give me a break.
Pen and notepad, as mentioned. Thanks for playing.
1 million each and no BBBJ. Might be the most absurd thing I've ever read on here.I hope those chicks know he just a one off and the rest of us gringos aren't that silly.
JonnyPokerStar
08-01-22, 05:49
You are overpaying out the ying yang.I wonder how high they got on the leaderboard wi that sale.
JonnyPokerStar
08-01-22, 05:52
I'll leave it to the other members as I don't have much personal experience with that, only what I read on the forum and photos online. I believe Hotel Ibiza is considered one of the best here.
And just to clarify. It's not like the rooms aren't cleaned each time, it's just that the standard is generally low for western sensibilities and bathrooms can look pretty unappealing too. Most often no showerhead or warm water as well.Yeah but the showers at ground zero are world class, just. Pipe sticking out the wall with unrestricted water pressure, hot enough to scald you if you're into that. I'm sure to visit ground zero at least once a week as the shower there is so superior to that of my middle class apartment.
JonnyPokerStar
08-01-22, 05:57
I went to Fantasias Energy with another board member. He wanted to do a "high end" casa and was talking about Loutron. I hadn't been to Fantasias Energy yet, and figured that would be easier to do since it was in Laureles. This was technically the only paid sex I had this trip. They are currently charging 170 k for an hour. I don't think the place is worth it in comparison to other casas and I've concluded casas aren't for me personally. I didn't see a huge difference in the quality of girls and / or facilities in comparison to New Life, which I visited in 2020. This time the other BM beat me to the hottest girl in their lineup of 5. I chose a red head that was probably the second hottest. She had a decent body, a tiny bit of belly fat. But of course, she had rules like no kissing and tried to upsell me for BBBJ (wanted 130 k more). The covered BJ was good and everything was fine by which this girl was doing her job well as she understood it. But I didn't cum and the girl even asked me why I was so serious after the session (it was because I wasn't that into it). In my opinion, the casa experience really has nothing on the types of experiences I've become accustomed to with semipros and nonpros or even some of the good Facebook pros I've seen in the past. If I were to go back to a casa it probably would be one of the normal / cheaper ones as I don't think Fantasias energy does much to justify the higher price.Couldn't agree more; in my experience I am not a casa guy, but I have not found price to be a good an indicator of quality in these places. And semis / non-pros are usually the best for obvious reasons.
JonnyPokerStar
08-01-22, 06:22
Perhaps you are just a smidge too much self-aware, but hey, not a problem, I think we are all enjoying your reports. No reason to change up and possibly tip the apple cart other than a minor tweak, maybe time for a can of spinach, jajajaja?
A bad day in Medellin beats most good days back in Pussy Prison US of A. And I have noticed, the off-days never seem to last more than a day, and the rebound is usually fantastic.
My fabulous finca party never materialized and I lost my deposit of slightly less than $90 USD for three people. I believe the organizers were not being duplicitous and trying to rip me off. They are a very friendly, young married couple in their early 20's, and they simply got in over their heads with their organizational and planning skills. When they told me on the day of event they were "still waiting for people to get off work to collect the money" I predicted failure and told them when you wait until the last minute to collect your cash, there will be too many no-shows, and that's exactly what happened. They say the event has been rescheduled but I won't be here. Live and learn for all of us. They typically and annoyingly message me 40-50 times per day, so I blocked their Whassap.
I am headed over to Ground Zero for a two-hour session with my GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-To-Girl). I like to be spontaneous and we have been doing somewhat different things each session. Here's an idea. I've been running lapjs on her (all three holes each session). What if we see how many laps I can run on her before she taps out?? Mouth-pussy-ass, mouth-pussy-ass, mouth-ass-pussy-ass, mouth-ass-pussy, jeje, you get the idea.
Except odds on any bet would be that this little sex machine will not tap out, jejejeje.
Keep On Keepin' On my Brother in HiJinx. The Force is strong with you, jeje.+1 for "running laps".
This may not have been the finca fiesta that I thought I would be at for my last weekend in Medellin, but nonetheless I had a Spectacular Sunday. Like most of my best days here, little or no planning went into it, the day unfolded and happened on it's own. Do not ask yourself what you have planned for Medellin, sit back and wonder, what does Medellin have in store for you?
My GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-to-Girl) Whassapped me in the morning wanting to meet, like she does every day. I asked her to be available for two hours, we ended up doing four and a half. Fantastic, marvelous, loving and a little kinky, see fotos. I forgot about setting the lap records that I mentioned before, and nothing was preplanned.
The reverse foot job occurred to me after the same vantage point and at the same moment when I took that first foto shown. Never did that before. My big toe, second and third toes were in her pussy, and my fourth toe slid effortlessly into her cute snug little asshole without even trying, thanks to a generous use of Lubriderm. She enjoyed the rocking back and forth I did with my foot.
We spent a lot of time hugging and kissing. She is every affectionate. I spilled my small bottle of Listerine on the mattress and who should appear at our door but MarvelousMotelMaiden (MMM). She had gotten called into work when she let the wrong person know the night before that our finca fiesta got called off, and I sent her home a little before midnight. I will throw in some fotos MMM in my hotel room in the next post, Part 2. She is mesmerizing. We spent over 8 hours together waiting for the failed finca fest, mostly in my hotel bed, jeje. I will confess, I was a little curious to see if she really would be on job the next day at my favorite love motel where I met her, but I believed her when she told me she had to return to work the next day under the threat of losing her job.
The interaction with MMM and GZGTG in the room at the same time was interesting and entertaining to say the least. MMM was still miffed at me for sending her home the night before. I played a little grab ass on her when she flipped the mattress and jokingly asked her for blowjob. GZGTG of course heard everything and asked me later if there was something between us. MMM asked me for some lunch money. I hesitated then I gave her 20 mil COP. When I wrote her later and asked her what she did for lunch before she met me, she said "I didn't eat" which I thought was probably the best answer I could hear.
She's not jealous about me fucking other girls where she works, but she also messaged me later about "all the money you pay them and all you gave me was taxi fare to go home last night". Even when they are not sex workers, the chicas here all seem plugged into the Pay for Play mindset. I reminded her of the money I lost on the deposit at the party, the money I fronted for her child care, the smoking hot bathing suit I bought her for the party, and even the dinner I bought for her. These are just exercises in semantics to her because the typical chica here goes by one thing and one thing only, and that is how much money do they have in their pocket when they go home. This is one how the financial part of their minds work. Total expenditure is meaningless to them. I get it.
(Cont).
JonnyPokerStar
08-01-22, 06:31
I just got back from Medellin and have a lot of different thoughts about my week-long trip, which was incredible. I'm going to write a few different posts instead of one longer one so people can read what interests them and skip as wanted. I'll start off with my thoughts about nonpros and approach them on Facebook. Over my trips to Medellin I've increasingly gravitated towards nonpros and semipros and away from pros since I have the best experiences with nonpro and semipro girls. I've got around 800 Facebook friends and I decided to spend the time sorting them into nonpro and pro friend groups before my trip in order to optimize my odds of meeting nonpros and semipros. I used criteria for IDing these girls I've written about previously so I won't summarize her (search my earlier posts). I ended up with a list of about 200 I thought were nonpros, messaged the 35 hottest on the list, got responses from about 12, and ended up with longer chats with eight. Of the eight I met four. I ultimately repeated heavily with my two favorites since I really enjoyed their company but could have easily seen more girls. Since I'm a fluent Spanish speaker, I talked a bit about their experiences on Facebook, why they talked to me and all as well.
First and foremost, to be clear, even average-looking girls are receiving a load of messages and a lot of messages asking for naked pics, offering them money etc. One woman I met actually showed me her Facebook and she had over 100 friend requests and a load of messages. If you are targeting a nonpro be polite, be a gentleman, come off as a normal person and ask them about their lives. The girls who I chatted with thought I was attractive based on my photos, but they all commented that they decided to meet me because I was polite to them and seemed normal. My current #1 chick (who is a cam girl so she is not a complete nonpro and I don't include her in the four above) also has stressed to me many times that she really likes me because I've always been a gentleman with her.
Secondly, be honest about what you are looking for with them. You'd be surprised what many will accept. The two chicas I spent the majority of my time with know I'm married / in an open relationship and know that they are not the only women I'm seeing and are cool with that. One of them wanted to spend my last night with me and I told her I was going to be spending it with someone else, who I'd know longer and she was cool with that too.
Thirdly, I'm now more keyed in on how they dress on their profiles as a sure sign that they are nonpros. A lot of photos in normal clothes, maybe with a few in bathing suits is a great sign they are nonpro.
Fourthly, as others have said on the forum be prepared in some cases to go out on dates or to not get sex. I don't mind dates as I speak Spanish and am actively trying to learn everything I can about Colombian culture. They may even ask to bring a friend on the date, which happened to me on one case. For me, lunch / coffee and taxis are cheap so I don't mind. I had a couple who were willing to come to my apartment off the bat. I offer to cook for them as a way of getting them there without being creepy. One of those girls ended up coming to my apartment and drinking and talking with me without sex, which I didn't mind at all. She ultimately didn't have sex with me because I'm in an open relationship and she didn't like that (was even bargaining that we could be in a thruple with my wife at one point if I closed my relationship).
Fifthly, I made a great friend / got a tour guide with one girl who I decided I didn't want to sleep with. She took me to San Felix, Comuna 13, the teleferico, and shopping in centro. All I did was pay her taxis and buy her some food and drink on our site seeing excursions. Finding someone like that is a great way to see the sites.
Sixthly, you will spend money and time on dates so going with a pro may be the preferred option for some. I always paid taxis for girls and offered to pay the babysitter if they had kids. Taxis and babysitter should come out to less than 100 k in most cases. You may want to give some of them a gift too. One of my repeat girls is a baker who makes 1 million a month and is obviously struggling to get by with her family. I gave her an extra regalo after the first time I saw her and she was grateful. Later I would just pay her taxis or send a car for her and she didn't mind that either.
Finally, I learned a lot more about Colombian dating and relationships this trip. Relationship dynamics in Medellin are pretty fucked up. Its common for women to shack up at 13,14, 15 to men in their mid to late 20's (or older). Two of the women I met had long-term relationships with richer men (estrata 4) that started that way. They both were cheated on so much that they separated and now are single moms in estrata 2. This is in addition to the absentee dads (know many like that from this and previous trips), and controlling and financially manipulative relationships (this seems common with the cam girls). These chicas love honesty so much because they are so used to cheating and lies.Great post. I am curious if w. Are. T. To the non pros, you ultimately paid them directly in cash or only paid the dates and logistics, and if you could see yourself in a relationship with any in the future or not and what the main draws and stumbling blocks would be.
Thanks for the data!
BbqMushrooms
08-01-22, 06:46
Your wise not to take any more puffs. They have some weed here I think they call Crepa which is laced with a chemical. I'm not an expert on this, and I know we have some resident experts here on this, but the stuff can kick the shit out of you. I don't know if that was what they had, you may of just been wore out from your tour and perhaps the altitude.It's a strain of marijuana that became poplar a few years ago. It's at least twice the potency of the regular marijuana you can find down there. That's not to say you might find laced weed if you don't know your source, just to say it doesn't necessarily mean that it's laced, just that cripy weed is much more potent and sought out for that quality specifically. It does sound like you might've just been exhausted and out of it already though.
After MMM (MarvelousMotelMaiden) fixed our room, GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-to-Girl) and I had a bunch of leisurely sex. When I bought the banana that morning on the walk over to the love motel with her, the last thing on my mind was inserting into her pussy. I washed the banana with soap and water. She was hesitant about germs but I pointed out to her that my foot that was up inside her va-jay-jay-vault a little bit earier was probably ten times dirtier than the banana and she quickly acquiesced. She shocked me when after I inserted the banana in one smooth motion, she reached out and gave me a high five, I kid you not.
Folks who follow me know I can beat a dead horse into dogmeat if I think misinformation is being purported. On this whole pussy is like the pristine Sistine Chapel and can only tolerate certain kinds of lubes, allow me to enlighten you.
As one of the OB-Gyn's in the HMO network I was in charge of once told me, "Women sit in a cesspool all day long". There is so much normal flora and bacteria colonized in a woman's nether regions that a pussy can pretty much defend itself against most of the outside insults thrown at it. The whole "delicate pH balance" millieu is a bunch of bullshit other than some very broad strokes with candida and yeast infections. Which BTW are not sexually transmitted diseases.
Sure, if I injected an entire bottle of Lubriderm internally into her twat and let it sit there for a couple of days, there could be some complications. Or she might just end up with a nice, goopy, sweet smelling twat. But for recreational use and with normal hygiene before and after, and that includes a little manual internal irrigation in the shower after sex, pussies don't care what kind of lube you use.
Lubriderm is a great sex lube. I also use liquid silicone for lighter duty.
There is also a dose-dependent effect in play. That means a little bit is not going to make much of a difference, but a lot might. Use common sense.
If you are an Internet jockey, you can go on-line and find all kinds of warnings about what to use and not to use as a sex lube. There is no clinical or medical evidence to back those claims. Most of it is commercialized propaganda. If I had the spare time, I would get a grant from Trojan to dispel the "petroleum makes condoms break" myth, and set up an actual bonafide experiment using condoms on mechanical dildos with different lubes, but I am not motivated to prove something I already know. I have used Vaseline with condoms without a problem. In fact, the few times I have had a condom break it had nothing to do with the lube. I will even go as far to say the chance of condom failure is much higher without the use of lube of any kind, because of the increased friction, and the lube choice itself is mainly a red herring.
In general, when a person mainly uses the Internet for their source of information, you can make some convincing points and build some reasonable sounding arguments with the use of fancy words, rhetoric and semantics, that can convince others of similar ilk who are equally unenlightened. But when someone in the audience is actually in-the-know based on real world experience, training, education, and professional experience, then Internet arguments are like waving a red flag in front of a bull, except this ain't no bullshit. That's how obvious it is to people who are trained or professional in a field compared to someone who graduated from University of Google.
Unfortunately, the trained professionals are few and far between and Google has become ubiquitous. I am not anti-Google, in fact, it's a modern miracle. However, Google is not a substitute for formal, vetted, reviewed, edited, and peer reviewed material. Basically, anyone can find any point that will support their own by doing a Google search. Obviously, that doesn't make them automatically right. People who rely mainly on their University of Google degrees to prove points, in my experience lack the ability to think critically and objectively.
BTW, I am not purporting formal education as the be all and end all. Especially in this mongering game, which I should be able to safely assume is the reason we are all here and why you are reading me so intensively at this moment. This is the school of hard knocks, common sense and street smarts. Anyone who brags or makes claims about their IQ on this Web site gets an automatic 30 point deduction. Dems the rulz.
I thought my day was done but while walking back to The Nutti I spied two of my long time Ground Zero honey's, but I had never seen them together before, as a team. Some quick banter, and we did a 180 back to the love motel again for a quick thirty minute session. The reason it wasn't longer is because I was running out of money. I ended up giving the girls my every last peso I had on me, which was part and parcel in my open negotiations with them and meant I got them to agree to a price that was below Fair Market Value (FMV). We bumped into MMM again inside the Love Motel, me with these two hawt as fuk cuties on each hip and MMM rockin the maid uniform, but she gave me the total cold shoulder this time and ran off in a direction where I did not see her again for the rest of the day.
Turns out tomorrow really is one of the hawt-as-fuk-honey's birthday, cedula confirmed, and the three of us agreed to have our own little private birthday fiesta in a love motel room, tomorrow afternoon at Ground Zero, special guests invited, jeje. Anyone know where I can score a birthday cake, quick-like?.
Asti Out, and I gots to Keep On Keepin' On.
I smoked some weed with one my casa regulars the other day, I asked what kind it is and I she said something sounding like Crepa now that you mention that. Not a regular user and it's been a while so I took only two puffs for a 'museum dose'. Man, was I glad it was a short walk back home, that shit was strong.
She brought a big bag of what she said was about 7 grams and that she paid for it 10 mil in barrio.
Didn't know it was laced with chemicals, not planning to repeat it.I don't know about chemicals but I think if you have never smoked before or don't smoke regularly, it is not difficult to be knocked out by a regular one. I let chicas smoke in my place, pretty much they all smoke blunts, but there are different sizes and strengths. I asked a 18 yr old how long has she been smoking, she said 3 years regularly, so I guess what she smokes will be pretty strong for people who don't smoke regularly /.
All three of you missed the point, to a varying degree, Huacho may possibly be on point, this time.
I hope those chicks know he just a one off and the rest of us gringos aren't that silly.
1 million each and no BBBJ. Might be the most absurd thing I've ever read on here.
You are overpaying out the ying yang.Both parties were satisfied, the hallmark of a good deal, and the results do not effect us. Any additional emotion or intellect delved onto the situation is fruitless.
Random gratuitous fotos from the past week, including one showing Scarlet giving me a great prostate massage and stretching my soft cock with her mouth at the same time. Condom over her first two fingers, any Ground Zero chica will do it.
Mr. E, you just eroded the myth of the pure as driven snow facebook girls who are worth 4 to 5 times the price of their casa equivalents because they "have less mileage. " ....It depends, it's not so much about mileage. If you know any FB rats that are equivalent of Centro rats, ask them their session length and cost, then add the travel time. That may give you a different perspective of cost and mileage.
I have an upcoming trip to Medellin starting in September. My first. I'm planning to hang out for 4 weeks.
Place to stay: What do you think of Sheraton Four Points or Marriot. If I pay for double occupancy will I have difficulties bringing guests who will register at the front desk.
Best Ways to Meet Girls Online Prior To arrival: Recently, I signed up for Tinder. Chatted with several girls, however, reading posts from others, it seems Facebook may be a better option. Does FB have a passport feature similar to Tinder where my profile will be displayed. How does one meet girls who are not on my contact list. In other words, how does one get a stack of girls to browse through from a specific locale.
Sorry for the basic questions. Would really appreciate some feedback.If you have that budget, read this post. I think you two have similar preference.
... If I'm back in Medellin I will stay in the Energy Living building again, to me it was worth the price ...Facebook is free. Read the posts in Reports of Distinction for detail.
Get an ISG subscription so you can communicate with other members.
It is not consistent with market rates.
1 million each and no BBBJ. Might be the most absurd thing I've ever read on here.
I think I understand except for the bit about travel time. What does that have to do with what someone should pay? Session time I think equals multiple pops and conversation. It's a bargain for some and not so much for others.
It depends, it's not so much about mileage. If you know any FB rats that are equivalent of Centro rats, ask them their session length and cost, then add the travel time. That may give you a different perspective of cost and mileage.
Every deal is a one off for the girls. Most live in the moment and try to get as much as they can per encounter. Does anyone really imagine 1 million peso deals are going to become a thing?
I hope those chicks know he just a one off and the rest of us gringos aren't that silly.
I've paid logistics for the dates and gave one a "regalo" once. That was an amount of cash I wanted to give her to help her out beyond what she needed for babysitters. Its not something we negotiated or she demanded. I'm personally not against giving them cash or gifts but it HAS to be my choice and my idea. I also gave my webcam amiga permission to post the videos we took together on her onlyfans. She'd never posted anything boy-girl before and they are all videos I took where you can't see my face. It turned me on making the videos and if she can make some extra cash from it more power to her.
In terms of relationships, I'd personally like to keep seeing my webcam girl E and the baker nonpro in the future. I planted the seeds with another two or three as well that I may contact when I'm back. One is a girl I had lunch with and didn't have time to have sex with her despite her wanting to. There are another two who I didn't have time to meet up with.
I do think maintaining relationships can be hard. I wrote about a chica I had an amazing time and out-of-this-world chemistry with back in January (A in previous posts). She's also a webcam model and probably the woman I've had some of the best sexual chemistry with in my life, though E is pretty close behind her (don't know what it is with those webcam girls for me). But it was hard to maintain contact with her and keep things up remotely. She had issues with my being married and got jealous sometimes but also had different ways of communicating that honestly didn't work for me.
Ultimately traveling to Medellin regularly, helping them out financially, or being able to commit to them in some way are all things that might sweeten the pot for individual girls. I'm not against spending to have a good time or some strategic gifts that are my idea to take with me or when I'm there. But I'm personally not about to begin regularly sending money to any woman (especially in Colombia). There are just too many options and I value myself too highly. I also can't / don't want to commit to anything beyond friendships as I'm already married. I tell them "solo podemos compartir un rato bonito juntos why estar buenos amigos nada mas".
Great post. I am curious if w. Are. T. To the non pros, you ultimately paid them directly in cash or only paid the dates and logistics, and if you could see yourself in a relationship with any in the future or not and what the main draws and stumbling blocks would be.
Thanks for the data!
Every deal is a one off for the girls. Most live in the moment and try to get as much as they can per encounter. Does anyone really imagine 1 million peso deals are going to become a thing?You get it. Some of the others, don't.
Both parties were satisfied, the hallmark of a good deal, and the results do not effect us. Any additional emotion or intellect delved onto the situation is fruitless.
Mr Enternational
08-01-22, 18:46
Does anyone really imagine 1 million peso deals are going to become a thing?1 million pesos is $235. It is already a thing at Gusto's isn't it?
I think I understand except for the bit about travel time. What does that have to do with what someone should pay? Session time I think equals multiple pops and conversation. It's a bargain for some and not so much for others.Does your time traveling to the girl (El Centro) have a cost? If not, then it is free for you, but it's not free for everybody. It works both way, the girl has to travel to you, that is the time she can't work. In some part of the world, there are agencies actually bill travel time for outcall.
The other issue is that do you enjoy to be in the car in hot weather without A / C. It's either you or the girl.
That's why I always say, bring a pen and notepad with you when you go to a casa with a real line-up. Unless you are The Amazing Kreskin, you will not be able to remember the girls, their details, and which ones you like. How you remember, track or score them, that is up to you.I just whip out my calculator and type in 13+25+2+9.
"can I see these 4 girls again?
If you are an Internet jockey, you can go on-line and find all kinds of warnings about what to use and not to use as a sex lube. There is no clinical or medical evidence to back those claims. Most of it is commercialized propaganda. If I had the spare time, I would get a grant from Trojan to dispel the "petroleum makes condoms break" myth, and set up an actual bonafide experiment using condoms on mechanical dildos with different lubes, but I am not motivated to prove something I already know. I have used Vaseline with condoms without a problem.You're dead wrong. Petroleum products like vasoline and baby oil definitely breakdown latex condoms and make them vulnerable to breakage, irrespective of your anecdotes. You go around claiming to be a physician, and I usually ignore your errors but in matters of real importance someone needs to speak up. The last link relates to older studies while newer ones aren't needed. It's simply common knowledge today and not open to debate.
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/what-to-know-about-baby-oil-as-lube
https://www.healthline.com/health/baby-oil-as-lube
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-02-28-vw-534-story.html
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So $230 for the whole night for a comparable woman is a bargain. The guys who criticize you see no difference between a woman from La Isla and one in Centro.It maybe a bargain with BBBJ but it's a lousy deal for most who want BBBJ.
A shortcut workaround some may find useful for making casa selections is to only remember the names and girls you may want to select and immediately forget those you don't. Our minds have limited powers of recall. When a girl you find undesirable approaches you, greet her with whatever variation of a nod or handshake the casa is using then forget her right away. When a girl you see as a possibility appears, remember her name. It narrows the list considerably and makes much more efficient use of memory. It's not that often you need to remember more than a handful. Also, the casas will ask the girls to come out all at once or one at a time a second time on request.For my casa experiences I would assign the name of each girl I was considering to a finger. Touch the finger and repeat the name. As each new girl would come out, touch that finger again, repeat the first girl's name and if the next girl was a possibility, touch the next finger and repeat her name. Once 3 were memorized, I'd decide whether a girl was good enough to replace one. Seldom saw more than 3 worth considering.
Mr. E, you just eroded the myth of the pure as driven snow facebook girls who are worth 4 to 5 times the price of their casa equivalents because they "have less mileage. " Those long waits and ghost events are just them saving themselves for the special time with their favorite customer.Not really. A top casa girl is probably seeing 10-15 customers per week, maybe 20. A busy Facebook girl sees 3-5 customers a week. A few hustlers might get 10 or more a week.
I will take your word for what agencies do in other parts of the world. Here in Medellin, for me at least, it's not a factor.
Does your time traveling to the girl (El Centro) have a cost? If not, then it is free for you, but it's not free for everybody. It works both way, the girl has to travel to you, that is the time she can't work. In some part of the world, there are agencies actually bill travel time for outcall.
The other issue is that do you enjoy to be in the car in hot weather without A / C. It's either you or the girl.
RiceRocket99
08-02-22, 00:25
I guess the old saying comes to mind, it's his money and he can spend it however he likes. Just for contrast, I had 2 FB girls come to my northern suburb apartment couple days ago. Paid them 150 mil each plus taxis for a 3 some BBFS along with 2 pops! They stayed for around 5-6 hours. I was drained from the drinking, snorting, and crazy fucking during that time. Took me a whole day to recover from that bliss of an experience. They were repeat performers, so I knew what I was getting myself into and no, I will not share contacts hehehe. Granted, theyre not La Isla quality girls looks wise, but way better imo than your average Centro chica. Plus I wanted the company of 2 chill girls who were gonna fuck my brains out and dont have to worry about the clock or chemistry. Happy hunting everybody!
1 million each and no BBBJ. Might be the most absurd thing I've ever read on here.
RamDavidson84
08-02-22, 00:53
1 million pesos is $235. It is already a thing at Gusto's isn't it?1 million pesos is a chica fantasy. I[Deleted by Admin] I am no Rico Suave and I had one of the hottest girls in Gusto's the other week and she told me $200 USD for an hour, I looked around and the girls in the club outnumbered the guys 2-1 at least. I then gave her a serious look which meant no chance and she quickly accepted my 400 k peso offer. This was prime time too, no late night magic. She didn't go all out GFE for me, but I had no complaints and she even split a cab with me back to Parque Lleras as my night was only just beginning.
You're dead wrong. Petroleum products like vasoline and baby oil defi nitely breakdown latex condoms and make them vulnerable to breakage, irrespective of your anecdotes. You go around claiming to be a physician, and I usually ignore your errors but in matters of real importance someone needs to speak up. The last link relates to older studies while newer ones aren't needed. It's simply common knowledge today and not open to debate.
https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/what-to-know-about-baby-oil-as-lube
https://www.healthline.com/health/baby-oil-as-lube
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-02-28-vw-534-story.htmlThose articles would make it seem like I don't know what I am talking about. I won't argue that point.
Please show me where I once ever claimed to be a physician, because I don't, and I didn't. Someone else started that rumor here. I'll take it as a compliment.
I know very little about facebook girls. I think your casa estimate is good considering few of the girls work more than three or four days a week, this according to casa administrators and girls I know.
Not really. A top casa girl is probably seeing 10-15 customers per week, maybe 20. A busy Facebook girl sees 3-5 customers a week. A few hustlers might get 10 or more a week.
As I said, once you ignore the girls you don't find appealing there will generally be three to five you would consider out of the lineups. It's much easier to remember which of that smaller group make the cut. Aiffe has them all come out and say their name a second time when they have a larger lineup. The number badge thing I think is a language barrier workaround.
I just whip out my calculator and type in 13+25+2+9.
"can I see these 4 girls again?
ChuchoLoco
08-02-22, 02:28
1 million pesos is a chica fantasy. If any motherfucker is paying a million pesos for a chica in Medellin, then he is a mentally handicapped asshole. I am no Rico Suave and I had one of the hottest girls in Gusto's the other week and she told me $200 USD for an hour, I looked around and the girls in the club outnumbered the guys 2-1 at least. I then gave her a serious look which mean't no chance and she quickly accepted my 400 k peso offer. This was prime time too, no late night magic. She didn't go all out GFE for me, but I had no complaints and she even split a cab with me back to Parque LLeras as my night was only just beginning.You paying 400 K? At least that was better than $200 US but wtf is going on when 400 K is a good price? Maybe I've been away too long but only since January.
After the graffiti tour and the drug debacle I felt I needed a calm day. I was also waiting for my chicka to verify our dinner date. There was no dinner date. She texted her mother was sick and she spent the day at the hospital with her. Well, might be true, but who knows. Woke early and went to sleep early not a day to remember.
Popeye without spinach. Did not make the most of this day.
It is good to see the Marriott has changed their guest policy; it it my favorite hotel in Medellin.
And pulling two hotties out of La Isla for $230 apiece for the night is a good rate. I paid $80 an hour for a beauty from there and a different girl asked for $160 for the hour, so you did fine. The guys who question how much you paid have no clue what quality is. When I went to La Isla, it was the single greatest collection of beautiful women in Colombia I had seen. I had heard it went downhill and then up again.
Guys want to compare the rates of women to those glue sniffers in El Centro but some of us are and were willing to pay for beauty. They do not understand that if you want a woman like this in the USA, it is $1000 an hour. https://tryst.link/escort/mira_1.
So $230 for the whole night for a comparable woman is a bargain. The guys who criticize you see no difference between a woman from La Isla and one in Centro.I haven't criticized him, and I won't. What someone pays is what they pay. It's worth mentioning he probably could have gotten the same girls for less.
As far as La Isla being the greatest collection of beauties in Colombia, I found it to just be decent. I had no trouble finding an acceptable girl, but there were at least as many who didn't meet my standards. However, when it comes to strip clubs in Medellin, nowhere else can match the overall experience.
Several times now you've made disparaging remarks about the girls in El Centro, as if every one is the same. No matter where you go, El Centro or La Isla, Facebook or SA, you'll find a wide range of women, from butt ugly to gorgeous. Thirty minutes in El Centro or anywhere else will prove that. Unless you're watching who everyone else is picking up, you have no idea whether they're fucking 4's or 9's (for those who use a scale), and that applies to La Isla and El Centro.
What price an escort in the US charges is irrelevant, unless you're picking up a girl in Medellin, flying her to the US and then offering to pay her for sex. The inexperienced monger might be amazed at the price, but anyone who has been around understands that you don't base what you spend on what you would spend in the US. Otherwise we would all be paying $200 per night for 3 star accommodations instead of $50 or less.
And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro. Any day of the week you can find a girl working the street in El Centro who will rival the best in La Isla.
After the graffiti tour and the drug debacle I felt I needed a calm day. I was also waiting for my chicka to verify our dinner date. There was no dinner date. She texted her mother was sick and she spent the day at the hospital with her. Well, might be true, but who knows. Woke early and went to sleep early not a day to remember.
Popeye without spinach. Did not make the most of this day.The sick mother story is one of the most common. If she gets back in touch with you it will be because her mother got discharged from the hospital and now needs medicine or her bleeding won't stop. I heard that one more than a few times.
RamDavidson84,
Depending on where you go fishing, 400,000 pesos can be a Chica fantasy, and a Colombian local would think your nuts for paying a Chica that kind of money.
Putting things in perspective, the Colombian minimum salary is about 1 million Pesos a month, so you Chica earned almost two weeks salary for perhaps a few hours of time.
I'm not saying you got hosed by this Chica, your post illustrates the "shark" attitude of the Chicas there, but you can't blame the them for asking for $ 200 USD for an hour.
I would do the same, and I can see some of the girls getting that amount of money easily.
However I wouldn't characterize the guys paying that kind of money as assholes.
Putting things in perspective, I can remember about 15 years ago spending time in the Del Rey in Costa Rica and so many guys would show up, on vacation, going thru a nasty divorce with a two ton whale, and a stunning beauty like you described shows up and it was $ 100 USD back than that many of the girls would get for an hour.
And sometimes the guys would go upstairs in the Hotel, and be back down less than 30 minutes later, and the Chica would be back on the prowl with a Cheshire Cat grin on her face.
After the graffiti tour and the drug debacle I felt I needed a calm day. I was also waiting for my chicka to verify our dinner date. There was no dinner date. She texted her mother was sick and she spent the day at the hospital with her. Well, might be true, but who knows. Woke early and went to sleep early not a day to remember.
Popeye without spinach. Did not make the most of this day.Maybe you need to change your routine.
Sometimes guys like to hit the Casa's in the morning, kind of like eating Wheaties for breakfast to start the day off, and then see how the day develops.
I can remember doing this many years ago, it's a great way to start the day getting a load off in the morning, and then carousing around the rest of the day looking for your next one.
For my casa experiences I would assign the name of each girl I was considering to a finger. Touch the finger and repeat the name. As each new girl would come out, touch that finger again, repeat the first girl's name and if the next girl was a possibility, touch the next finger and repeat her name. Once 3 were memorized, I'd decide whether a girl was good enough to replace one. Seldom saw more than 3 worth considering.I can't remember how long it's been since I've been in a Casa in Medellin, but I do remember what a conundrum it could be making a selection if there were a lot of girls working.
What worked best for me, and I don't know what the protocol is nowadays, but I would ask for a complete line-up of all the girls together after they would come out individually.
But again, I don't know how it works these days at the Casa's, and my memory is so short I would have a hard time remembering the girls names, let alone scoring them and trying to memorize their names.
Hence a complete line-up, unless there's only a few girls working at the Casa, and then it should be easier to make a selection if there is one you want to do.
My last experiences at Casa 's was in Athens Greece of all places in 2019.
They call them Studios there, and they would bring the girls out, and of course I couldn't remember any of the girls names, but what I did remember was the girls physical attributes.
So in some instances it was very easy, I would tell the Madam, I'll take the blond haired girl with blue eyes, or the little spinner.
My standards are lower. I am a Centro rat after all LOL! But seriously, I usually see no more than 5 that interest me, fewer in direct proportion to the size of the lineup of course. It's not hard to decide between fewer girls than we have fingers on one hand. Unless you pay attention to the girls you don't want.
For my casa experiences I would assign the name of each girl I was considering to a finger. Touch the finger and repeat the name. As each new girl would come out, touch that finger again, repeat the first girl's name and if the next girl was a possibility, touch the next finger and repeat her name. Once 3 were memorized, I'd decide whether a girl was good enough to replace one. Seldom saw more than 3 worth considering.
It is just as likely, if not more likely, another punter or a barrio beau is what had your dinner date occupied. I would not adjust my schedule for her unless there are no other options.
After the graffiti tour and the drug debacle I felt I needed a calm day. I was also waiting for my chicka to verify our dinner date. There was no dinner date. She texted her mother was sick and she spent the day at the hospital with her. Well, might be true, but who knows. Woke early and went to sleep early not a day to remember.
Popeye without spinach. Did not make the most of this day.
1 million pesos is $235. It is already a thing at Gusto's isn't it?You are right according to what I read and hear second hand about Gustos. I'm not mad about it and more than I am mad about the five figure price of a Birkin handbag. I am more likely to sprout wings and fly than I am to get involved with either.
As soon as the subject of costs in other countries (usually Europe or the US) comes up it is a massive tell that somebody is trying to justify an above market rate. There is no need to justify it and it's nobody else's business. I am a bit of a contrarian on the last point because I don't believe any group of outliers can move the market. By definition outliers are statistical anomalies that don't change the prevailing trend. In plain terms there are not enough "whales" who pay Vegas prices to cause everyone else's costs to shoot up to that level. The real determining factor is time, as in the time a Weekend Warrior does not have to spare. Guys who have that time to spare can nurture deals that are not available on a point and click basis. No shade and no value judgment, it's just the way it is.
I haven't criticized him, and I won't. What someone pays is what they pay. It's worth mentioning he probably could have gotten the same girls for less.
As far as La Isla being the greatest collection of beauties in Colombia, I found it to just be decent. I had no trouble finding an acceptable girl, but there were at least as many who didn't meet my standards. However, when it comes to strip clubs in Medellin, nowhere else can match the overall experience.
Several times now you've made disparaging remarks about the girls in El Centro, as if every one is the same. No matter where you go, El Centro or La Isla, Facebook or SA, you'll find a wide range of women, from butt ugly to gorgeous. Thirty minutes in El Centro or anywhere else will prove that. Unless you're watching who everyone else is picking up, you have no idea whether they're fucking 4's or 9's (for those who use a scale), and that applies to La Isla and El Centro.
What price an escort in the US charges is irrelevant, unless you're picking up a girl in Medellin, flying her to the US and then offering to pay her for sex. The inexperienced monger might be amazed at the price, but anyone who has been around understands that you don't base what you spend on what you would spend in the US. Otherwise we would all be paying $200 per night for 3 star accommodations instead of $50 or less.
And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro. Any day of the week you can find a girl working the street in El Centro who will rival the best in La Isla.
Day started with my waking up to MMM (MarvelousMotelMaiden) on my Whassap asking to over, seems all has been forgiven.
She arrived looking like a million bucks as usual. Took her to an early lunch downstairs, my wingman came down and joined us.
Back to my room, not a lot of time, we needed to go buy a birthday cake for Sugar Baby as I promised to do the day before. MMM's jeans looked like they were spray painted on as usual, so we had quck sex with rear entry with her jeans just pulled down to her mid-thighs, shoes still on to save time. I edged but didn't come because I thought I might have a lot of choices at the birthday party, and that prediction turned out to be true.
We went and bought the cake a block away from Ground Zero near the metro station, see second foto, 25 mil COP or under six bucks for a small size round three layer cake. We were 20 minutes early and went upstairs at the love motel and dropped off the cake and made sure my usual room at the front was available. Went back down and the birthday girl and her two friends were waiting for us. MMM and I went several storefronts down and bought nice cake plates, forks and a knife, which I also gifted to Sugar Baby. All of us then went back up to my room in front, recently renovated with new paint, new TV, and a new fan.
If you were hanging out at all in the courtyard at Ground Zero yesterday, you heard us. The windows were wide open and one of the girls brought a speaker that had some juice. Maybe it's a sign of my age but I find when the decibel level is loud enough to cause hearing damage that it's not as enjoyable, but hey, it wasn't my birthday, so I didn't want to be the wet mop in the room.
What transpired over the course of the day was definitely a new personal record for the most number of girls I was with in one day, and there were two more, Freckle and Scarlet, when I got back to my hotel room that night. Problem is, I got so fucked up that I don't really remember them all but a realistic estimate would be ten chicas.
The party started at 2 PM and I didn't leave the room until dark, at 7 PM with motel staff knocking on the door and calling time. By then I was with one girl, a lesbian. She had come up with her novia after all the other girls had left. I spied them from the window, and had her girfriend's Whassap. I was negotiating with them on-line when they circumvented the process and appeared at my door.
My last encounter with the dominant butch of the couple had not ended splendidly because of misunderstanding about what services would be provided for the price paid, so we spent about 15 minutes tediously hammering out the details, and I am glad we did. Long story longer, the dom les got miffed and left early because her flakey girlfriend had taken a real liking to me. She was already asking for a spot on my List and so forth. Not a chance, I caught her trying to steal some of my tussi when I came out of the bathroom, she was pouring it in another bag. When I confronted her she denied stealing and said she was "taking a little bit to my friend downstairs" and she stuck to this line of puta reasoning for the rest of our session.
No reason to ruin the rest of our time, I even caught her a couple of more time on some early slight of hand moves with my pink shit again. Pity the poor newbie who gets her for his first Ground Zero encounter because she is the type of puta who will eat you up alive if you don't know the ropes.
After the rain stopped, we both went home. I Iiterally told her at least twenty times "no" to a propina or more money above and beyond what we had originally agreed upon. I did get her to agree that her day with me was a better than average day for her, but that argument is generally meaningless to the puta mind.
Came home, and Freckle was Whassapping me, offering to come over for free. Her little roommate was home sick with a fever. They are supposed to be in Peru, remember? Get this, Freckle took all the money she had saved for the trip and scheduled liposuction that she doesn't need on her near purrfekt body. Then on the day of surgery, yesterday, she tested positive for Covid even though she doesn't even have a sniffle (the dreaded false positive), so surgery is postponed for ten days by which time I will be gone.
She says she will fuck me for free but she and I both know that is puta-speak for "I am stuck with no money and unless you want me to sell my wet holes in the Park, I am going to need some help". Her little roommate is more quick to work Ground Zero than Freckle. This translates to I will fuck them both for below FMV (Fair Market Value) between now and when I leave on Saturday.
Freckle is the jealous type and makes me use a condom with the little one to dampen my enthusiasm, I kid you knot, jajajaja. By "makes me" I mean she told me if she ever catches my dick inside her roommate without a cuvah on my bubbah, that I will never see Freckle or her roommate again. An effective threat and she would follow-through in spite of her financial predicament. Plus, I probably would use a condom anyway with the roommate because she is actively selling her wet holes at the present time.
Freckle left, then Scarlet Whassaped and came over at 3 AM and slept until 7 AM. We had some good-night-go-to-sleep sex. Around 6:30 AM she left in a rush and did not take care of my morning wood, so I paid her below FMV at 120 mil COP. I got a nasty-gram Whassap from her about 15 minutes after she was out the door and I had to remind her that she was no longer my Number Two Novia, and that she would have to earn her way back up to the top, and that this is not how to do it.
Starting with MMM in the morning, and ending with Scarlet, that's at least ten chicas in a 24 hour period, and I am probably forgetting one or two. Definitely smashes my old personal record which was seven, I think.
Ostee Out, and I will Keep On Keepin' On, as always.
The sick mother story is one of the most common. If she gets back in touch with you it will be because her mother got discharged from the hospital and now needs medicine or her bleeding won't stop. I heard that one more than a few times.Yeah, the mother was discharged and now needs medecine. Go figure. Well, if she agrees to see me again I can help her with her mothers medecine.
Elvis 2008
08-02-22, 17:21
It maybe a bargain with BBBJ but it's a lousy deal for most who want BBBJ.Like I said in my 10 rules of the Medellin forum, if you pay anything over $20, you are going to get criticized.
PolloNegro
08-02-22, 17:29
It's always funny to see how other men judge other men simply on the statements that they make. Some men can make statements about money and others will say that they're broke, others will make statements about money and others will call them crazy, but if a person has the means to spend what they want to spend to achieve what they want to achieve what makes them crazy? This is supposed to be a group of men chatting about how to locate and achieve dates with girls in Colombia.
One thing that I can attest to is that after meeting certain board members you never know how deep one's pockets are and what one has saved up to achieve in their golden years of life. I will say this, you should always spend your money on what you want and achieve the experience that you're trying to achieve, let no one else's experience deter you or influence what you are trying to achieve. Pollo Negro is out!
Took a lazy morning then went circling around Centro. Tried to find the chicka I met the other day. Didn't see her. I was there a bit earlier this time. As I hear it's a "shift change" at 3-4 pm. I'll try a little later today.
Called in the Morena I had the other day at my hotel. The one that enjoyed the Jacuzzi a lot. I haven't had any issues after our BB experience so I opted for another one. Hard to keep up the convo this time but the mirror and some music made up for that. Pretty much the same encounter as the last time. Biggest difference was that I put my load on her stomach this time. I thought I knew what I was paying for and got just what I expected.
Today I have a FB girl lined up. Her profile pics are really nice. Offered dinner and hang out at my apartment.
Popeye is waking up after the down.
And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro. Any day of the week you can find a girl working the street in El Centro who will rival the best in La Isla.They are essentially the same girls, from the same strata one and two barrios or Venezuelana refugees. Just the former group has acquired silicone and better clothes thus qualifying as "high end. ".
And there's a lot of dimensions to Centro, casas, strip clubs, and street. "Glue sniffers" would be virtually non-existent in the first two groups. For recreation they'd drink and smoke weed, and maybe half would do Tusi. Elvis knows nothing about Centro and is even often wrong about the "high end" scene making me confident that his time in the City of Eternal Spring has been sparse to non-existent.
It's always funny to see how other men judge other men simply on the statements that they make. Some men can make statements about money and others will say that they're broke, others will make statements about money and others will call them crazy, but if a person has the means to spend what they want to spend to achieve what they want to achieve what makes them crazy? This is supposed to be a group of men chatting about how to locate and achieve dates with girls in Colombia.
One thing that I can attest to is that after meeting certain board members you never know how deep one's pockets are and what one has saved up to achieve in their golden years of life. I will say this, you should always spend your money on what you want and achieve the experience that you're trying to achieve, let no one else's experience deter you or influence what you are trying to achieve. Pollo Negro is out!Glad to see you are back.
I have my perennial date with GZGTG this early afternoon. I prepped her mainly because I like Dirty Talk and not so much because I am into predictions, by telling her I was going to spray my leche all over her face and take fotos, so maybe I will have something a little different for you all later tonight, jeje.
She agreed of course, without hesitation.
Yeah, the mother was discharged and now needs medecine. Go figure. Well, if she agrees to see me again I can help her with her mothers medecine.Tell her you will help her after she sees you. She has to earn it first, but don't tell it to her like that. And don't give her extra for the medicine, just pay her FMV (Fair Market Value).
I often say something like, "I'm sorry if what I paid you is not enough to pay for your (rent, mother's medicine, servicios, etc) but at least I can help."
Make it all sound altruistic and you are doing it because of the generally kind and warm-hearted person you are. The better she can feel about herself after she leaves you, the better it is for all concerned parties.
I feel quite certain you get this already, but a lot of the times my answers are framed for the general readership, and not just the guy who posted.
As far as La Isla being the greatest collection of beauties in Colombia, I found it to just be decent. I had no trouble finding an acceptable girl, but there were at least as many who didn't meet my standards. However, when it comes to strip clubs in Medellin, nowhere else can match the overall experience.
Several times now you've made disparaging remarks about the girls in El Centro, as if every one is the same. No matter where you go, El Centro or La Isla, Facebook or SA, you'll find a wide range of women, from butt ugly to gorgeous. Thirty minutes in El Centro or anywhere else will prove that. Unless you're watching who everyone else is picking up, you have no idea whether they're fucking 4's or 9's (for those who use a scale), and that applies to La Isla and El Centro.
And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro. Any day of the week you can find a girl working the street in El Centro who will rival the best in La Isla.I've been to El Centro countless times and never seen a girl above 7 on a good day. Most of them being in the 5 to 6 range, average or below average looking. Same applies to Lleras. True beauties will always find other ways or venues to make much more money than working El Centro streets or the park. No matter the place, street working girls are always bottom feeders. Low end casa girls are in the same boat, just being less exposed. The difference is not only in the looks, but also in other things, like education, social skills, ability to speak a foreign language, self confidence, values and goals in life. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.
I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.
Like I said in my 10 rules of the Medellin forum, if you pay anything over $20, you are going to get criticized.I think you let others influence you that you automatically choose the opposite position. What is the difference then?
RamDavidson84
08-02-22, 19:19
RamDavidson84,
Depending on where you go fishing, 400,000 pesos can be a Chica fantasy, and a Colombian local would think your nuts for paying a Chica that kind of money.
Putting things in perspective, the Colombian minimum salary is about 1 million Pesos a month, so you Chica earned almost two weeks salary for perhaps a few hours of time.
I'm not saying you got hosed by this Chica, your post illustrates the "shark" attitude of the Chicas there, but you can't blame the them for asking for $ 200 USD for an hour.
I would do the same, and I can see some of the girls getting that amount of money easily.
However I wouldn't characterize the guys paying that kind of money as assholes..Haha, I meant the asshole comment in a joking around sort of, sorry if it came off as harsh. In all seriousness though, I would never tell a man what to do with his money. If a guy did drop a million on a chica out of Gustos, then god bless him if that was his only way out. I just wanted to make it clear that most nights in Gustos and Parque Lleras, the girls greatly out number the guys and it's very easy to negotiate a more reasonable price. My rule of thumb is 400 k per hour and 600 k multi hour in Gustos. I am an in person more guy more than an online person, so for me I got to pay a bit more.
I know you can score some very cheap talent in Centro, but the risk to reward isn't worth it for me. Speaking of risk, even roaming Parque Lleras and other spots late at night doesn't feel totally safe. I saw several bad street fights there, as well as multiple fights in Cartagena. Not guys shouting, not two guys squaring up, but multiple people banging the fuck out with police waiting for back up to break up the chaos on several occasions. I also want to warn people that you cannot act a fool at all in Parque Lleras / Cartagena, especially if you are solo.
I didn't start my mongering career until 2018 and I am really jealous that the old school guys got to experience all of this stuff in the days before youtube and WhatsApp and all the other shit that has diminished the game. Must have been incredible Surfer.
I've been to El Centro countless times and never seen a girl above 7 on a good day. Most of them being in the 5 to 6 range, average or below average looking. Same applies to Lleras. True beauties will always find other ways or venues to make much more money than working El Centro streets or the park. No matter the place, street working girls are always bottom feeders. Low end casa girls are in the same boat, just being less exposed. The difference is not only in the looks, but also in other things, like education, social skills, ability to speak a foreign language, self confidence, values and goals in life. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.
I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.I guess I'm weird. When I'm looking for a girl to fuck, I don't require a resume, education background, relevant experience and 3 personal references. I don't care if she can speak 6 languages, or only 1. I don't understand how anyone has the time to arrange multiple interviews and background checks for a piece of ass that you'll probably never see again.
1. Does she look like someone I want to fuck?
2. Does she look like she'll be an entertaining fuck?
3. Is she willing to fuck at a price I'm comfortable with?
No need to call previous employers, no need to check her school transcripts and no need to find out where she sees herself in 5 years.
I'm having trouble believing you've been to El Centro countless times. From about the beginning of August 2017 to mid March 2018 I was in El Centro nearly every day, often twice a day. I've been several times since. While I don't know the exact number, 250 times is a reasonable estimate. In all those times I've never seen a 5, 6 or 7. They don't carry signs stating their official beauty rating and without knowing the official beauty rating committee, I have no idea what the "experts" have decided.
I have seen women who I wouldn't fuck, ever, even if they were paying me. I've also seen many girls who I would happily pay over Facebook rates. The same is true in the casas. There are usually 1 or 2 who look damn fine.
Now, I'm not a Centro rat. Casas seldom appeal to me. These days even Facebook makes me yawn. However, I've seen the truth and anyone who claims all the Centro girls are ugly is living a lie.
The only time a girl's education, and other achievements is important to me is if I'm considering her for something beyond just a quick fuck. And if I'm looking for more than a quick fuck I would never look at La Isla, or on SA.
She can be fluent in 10 languages and have multiple PhD's, but if she's working at La Isla, or advertising on SA, she's selling pussy. She might be selling pussy for a higher price, she might accept alternative payment terms, but you're always going to be dealing with someone who sees sex as a marketable commodity. In simpler terms I have no interest in turning a hooker into a housewife.
Non pro. Had to sweet talk her for hours during her shift, took her out dancing to laureles and drinking. But her place is now hosting like an event with pros.
Mr Enternational
08-02-22, 19:48
if a person has the means to spend what they want to spend to achieve what they want to achieve what makes them crazy?Yeah but if everyone is coming on saying they paid $20 for their ISG membership then one guy comes on and talks about he paid $400 for 2 ISG memberships, people are bound to say dude, not well as long as you were able to get an ISG membership.
What does non pro mean? Asking for a friend who is a board member.
Non pro. Had to sweet talk her for hours during her shift, took her out dancing to laureles and drinking. But her place is now hosting like an event with pros.
Elvis 2008
08-02-22, 20:12
I think you let others influence you that you automatically choose the opposite position. What is the difference then?
I had no trouble finding an acceptable girl, but there were at least as many who didn't meet my standards. The inexperienced monger might be amazed at the price, but anyone who has been around understands that you don't base what you spend on what you would spend in the US. Otherwise we would all be paying $200 per night for 3 star accommodations instead of $50 or less.
And there is no difference between a generic girl in La Isla and a generic girl in El Centro.
I guess the old saying comes to mind, it's his money and he can spend it however he likes. Just for contrast, I had 2 FB girls come to my northern suburb apartment couple days ago. Paid them 150 mil each plus taxis for a 3 some BBFS along with 2 pops! They stayed for around 5-6 hours. Happy hunting everybody!Nounce, look at these two posts. Ricerocket is helpful, describes the women he was with, and his experience. Anyone who reads the forum knows he lives at least part time in Medellin. He is not judging but providing information which is what the forum is for.
Then you have JJBee and the "experienced" mongers and "quite wealthy" men (cough, cough). Why doesn't JJBee and everyone like him tell this guy to stay at Nutibarra which is $40 a night and not the Marriott which is $240? "Experienced" and "quite wealthy" men stay at the Nutti don't'cha know?
Unlike other places I had mongered, the Colombia forums were fucked up when it came to pricing. I had to consult a local on this and it became pretty clear to me that the cut rate prices guys here talk about is for average looking women or less and in less than desirable places. With the possible exception of Cartagena, unless there is a listed price then can be easily verified, my rule of thumb is guys should expect to pay 2 or 3 the prices commonly bantered about here.
So are the guys saying this guy GiuseppeBonera overpaid being helpful or are they cocky assholes beating their chest and mouthing off about what better and more "experienced" mongers they are?
If you are coming into Medellin and have the money to stay at the Marriott, and you want to go to a place with the best chance you will find a girl you like, you should head to La Isla and if guys are being helpful, they should give a range of prices from that place. If you do not know the prices for takeout or have never done it from there, then shut the fuck about whether someone overpaid. You are being just as worthless as saying the guy overpaid for his hotel room or for his beer at La Isla.
I've been to El Centro countless times and never seen a girl above 7 on a good day. Most of them being in the 5 to 6 range, average or below average looking. Same applies to Lleras. True beauties will always find other ways or venues to make much more money than working El Centro streets or the park. No matter the place, street working girls are always bottom feeders. Low end casa girls are in the same boat, just being less exposed. The difference is not only in the looks, but also in other things, like education, social skills, ability to speak a foreign language, self confidence, values and goals in life. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.
I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.Nounce and I were sitting at the fountain the other day impressed with the number of gorgeous physical specimens that happened by. That was the afternoon I banged that sweet Nubian princess. She had a model's body and a very pretty face with big beautiful smile and blazingly white purrfekt teeth. And her pussy was so snug and smooth that she moaned every time I first entered her (we took a few breaks). She would be a $2000 a session in LOS (stupid auto-editor strikes again) Angeles, easy, if you could even find someone like her. She knows she is special, but as far as how special, I can't be sure. As far as education, social skills, etcetera, multlingual, she was stoned out of her mind on Ecstasy and very willing and compliant to get even higher on tussi. So I admired her commitment, jajajaja. You sound more like an ad for on-line dating service which is where it seems your standards would more likely be met.
Most of us see what we want to see, hear what we want to hear, to keep our concept of self intact, for the most part. Arguing or trying to convince others where the best girls are is as fruitless an endeavor as rankings, speaking for myself. I couldn't be happier with my bevy of beauties. While I am certain I bang some girls a lot of guys here wouldn't touch (their loss, sometimes), I seem to notice that I have my share of babes or I am guessing what you guys call "nines", too, judging by some of the PM's I get. Jajajajaja, I don't distinguish during the pussy selection process, it just turns out that way, go figure. Ostee Out.
Tell her you will help her after she sees you. She has to earn it first, but don't tell it to her like that. And don't give her extra for the medicine, just pay her FMV (Fair Market Value).
I often say something like, "I'm sorry if what I paid you is not enough to pay for your (rent, mother's medicine, servicios, etc) but at least I can help."
Make it all sound altruistic and you are doing it because of the generally kind and warm-hearted person you are. The better she can feel about herself after she leaves you, the better it is for all concerned parties.
I feel quite certain you get this already, but a lot of the times my answers are framed for the general readership, and not just the guy who posted.Exactly my plan. Like I said help her with her mothers medicine not pay for all of it.
She just texted.
I really thought you would help with my mothers medicine.
I answer.
Feed you dog, pack you uniform and come here. We have dinner and I'll help you with her medecine.
Popeye being popeye.
Where's the lie?
The only time a girl's education, and other achievements is important to me is if I'm considering her for something beyond just a quick fuck. And if I'm looking for more than a quick fuck I would never look at La Isla, or on SA.
She can be fluent in 10 languages and have multiple PhD's, but if she's working at La Isla, or advertising on SA, she's selling pussy. She might be selling pussy for a higher price, she might accept alternative payment terms, but you're always going to be dealing with someone who sees sex as a marketable commodity. In simpler terms I have no interest in turning a hooker into a housewife.
Non pro. Had to sweet talk her for hours during her shift, took her out dancing to laureles and drinking. But her place is now hosting like an event with pros.Nice. That bar will be on my list to visit.
Sure I'll play. I didn't pay her and she didn't ask for any type of money. We chatted for hours at the bar where she worked. I taught her words in English I made her laugh had good conversation. She went home, showered changed and met her in laureles, danced, ate drank came back to my apt fucked, In the morning fucked again. And she left. She wanted to go out again but too many fish in the sea and my time is limited. Non pro.
What does non pro mean? Asking for a friend who is a board member.
Interesting day at my favorite love motel where I take my GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-To-Girl) and where MMM (MarvelousMotelMaiden) works. Both have a shot at making my List, MMM more than just a shot, she is a rare jewel but it's becoming increasingly obvious that she needs to be trained, and I don't just mean her sweet holes, but her behavior, too.
On top of that, GZGTG showed her jealous side and complained to the boss of the hotel about MMM, saying that she was harassing me, which was totally not true. I nipped that in the bud by telling GZGTG she will get one more chance, but there is no room for jealousy among my chicas on my List. She admitted she was busted and agreed to not repeat the behavior.
I splooged on GZGTG's face, but less than a third hit the target. I was saving a huge load for her. Plus, I was standing at the moment of truth and she had two fingers up my ass massaging my prostate. I went over her head, hit the far wall in the bathroom behind her. Also her upper chest and her right arm. I tried fotos to show all these targets but my my shitty little burner phone camera was not up to the task.
MMM is coming over after work and asking to bring a friend and for me to feed them both. That is one example of what I meant by needing some training. I said sure, if her friend was willing to get down on her knees for her supper. She called me a "baby" but they are both still coming, due in less than 30 minutes.
I have to admit it was kind of fun sexing GZGTG in the love motel room, and then stepping out in the hallway and French kissing MMM while playing some grab ass. GZGTG is pure puta in her mindset and behavior. MMM is a non-pro working girl but she knows the score because she works in a love motel. The dynamic that seems to be working against me is MMM keeps reminding me of the money I spend on my P4 P girls and she wants her fair share even if she is not P4 P. Her viewpoint does contain some valid logic and I am not completely sure how I will handle it other than making sure she I do not set her expectations too high.
One of the standard lines I have used over and over with new chicas and girlfriends is, "Somehow you were getting along and making it before you met me, and you need to continue doing so as if you did not meet me. I am not the solution to all the problems in your life. " I said this to MMM already a couple of times. She is so fucking hawt and sexy that it can be a little tough to stand my ground. Classic big head versus little head scenario.
Fotos: One thing I really dig about all GZGTG's crotch poses, is that I did not position her, that is a natural resting comfort position for her. I love it when they can get their ass down that low with their legs spread. Easy access to both holes at a great angle. I love the dirty socks, too. She has just the right amount of sluttiness in her, for me.
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Mr Enternational
08-03-22, 03:01
Sure I'll play. I didn't pay her and she didn't ask for any type of money.Definitely serious. You have the same definition as I do, but there are many here whose definition is "I don't pay them outright, I just slip the money into their clothing or purse" or "When I say non Pro I mean a chick who doesn't not normally sell pussy and or this is her first time selling pussy to a gringo" or "On at least two occasions, the girl told me it was the first time in her life she requested money for sex. Is that type of girl a non-pro?" Or "And non-pros are usually willing to fuck you for a very long time without asking for money if they believe your are interested in the long game ("largo plaza" No matter what the status of a girl I have sex with, I always give them a regalo (present), and they never turn me down, presumably because of the way I give them the money. " or "To me a non-pro (non-prostitute) is a chick that does not fuck for money. So it sounds weird for you to say you are looking for chicks that don't fuck for money so that you can pay them for sex."
What does non pro mean? Asking for a friend who is a board member.As I have been saying for quite some time here, the chicas in Medellin are on a continuum. Of course, it's easy to know where you are and what to do when you are at the extreme end of Puta-ville and everything is hard core and only about the money. But as soon as you start moving toward center, it's one continuous shade of gray. Where do you think all this talk about being "polite" to these chicas stems from? It's because they are on a continuum and the default is to not assume they are somehow inferior just because they are willing to accept money for sex. Plus, in their minds, it is often not a direct connection, but an indirect and even circuitous one.
Guys who think in binary terms with these Medellin chicas are not going to have as smooth of sailing as someone who can appreciate the gradations. By binary, I mean categorizing chicas as either hookers or not hookers. That kind of Neanderthal thinking works for one-off wet mudhole fucks, but not if you are wanting to repeat with girls and build relationships.
Even in the Belly of the Beast, at Ground Zero, there are some fine chicas out there who are available but don't want to be seen or treated like Pay for Play. Of course, there are just as many if not more chicas who will grab you buy your dick and drag you into a love motel without a drop of embarrassment. But like I said and keep saying, they are on a continuum. The trick for a smooth exchange, transaction, session, interaction, or whatever you want to call it, is to figure out where they fall on that continuum and then react and treat them accordingly, if you are looking for something a little more meaningful. If you are just into one-time wet mudhole fucks, then who cares? Not worth your time or trouble. I get it, but that's definitely not me.
Fuck me, as I write this, MMM and her friend just left. I thought I was "done" for the day and night. Knock on door. Freckle and the little one, her roommate, completely recovered from her fever. Back to the salt mines, my Brothers in HiJinx.
I guess I'm weird. When I'm looking for a girl to fuck, I don't require a resume, education background, relevant experience and 3 personal references. I don't care if she can speak 6 languages, or only 1. I don't understand how anyone has the time to arrange multiple interviews and background checks for a piece of ass that you'll probably never see again.
1. Does she look like someone I want to fuck?
2. Does she look like she'll be an entertaining fuck?
3. Is she willing to fuck at a price I'm comfortable with?
No need to call previous employers, no need to check her school transcripts and no need to find out where she sees herself in 5 years.
.You sound like a guy who thinks pussy is pussy and sees any woman as a piece of meat. As long as she has a vagina and a pulse, she is good to fuck, right? Have you ever thought that sex could be much better if there is a good connection / chemistry between the two? Difficult to establish one if she is dumb as fuck. But I agree, no references are needed if you are "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of a monger.
GeneHickman
08-03-22, 06:18
Nounce, look at these two posts. Ricerocket is helpful, describes the women he was with, and his experience. Anyone who reads the forum knows he lives at least part time in Medellin. He is not judging but providing information which is what the forum is for.
Then you have JJBee and the "experienced" mongers and "quite wealthy" men (cough, cough). Why doesn't JJBee and everyone like him tell this guy to stay at Nutibarra which is $40 a night and not the Marriott which is $240? "Experienced" and "quite wealthy" men stay at the Nutti don't'cha know?
Unlike other places I had mongered, the Colombia forums were fucked up when it came to pricing. I had to consult a local on this and it became pretty clear to me that the cut rate prices guys here talk about is for average looking women or less and in less than desirable places. With the possible exception of Cartagena, unless there is a listed price then can be easily verified, my rule of thumb is guys should expect to pay 2 or 3 the prices commonly bantered about here.
So are the guys saying this guy GiuseppeBonera overpaid being helpful or are they cocky assholes beating their chest and mouthing off about what better and more "experienced" mongers they are?
If you are coming into Medellin and have the money to stay at the Marriott, and you want to go to a place with the best chance you will find a girl you like, you should head to La Isla and if guys are being helpful, they should give a range of prices from that place. If you do not know the prices for takeout or have never done it from there, then shut the fuck about whether someone overpaid. You are being just as worthless as saying the guy overpaid for his hotel room or for his beer at La Isla.Brother, as someone who has been to MDE 7 times. And been to every venue you suggested. You should absolutely go to La Isla and Fase dos, not only that, but also pay to take them out from there, and whilst at it, I would throw in two other options where you will get your quality. Gustos and Lutron.
Everyone has a different style of mongering, and if that works for you, go at it. All I can say is I have had girls for 150 mil on past trips and now 200 + taxi and they at times also work at La isla and Gustos. What they get there I don't know or frankly care, but if we meet it's 200 + taxi and I get what I want. Sometimes they will insist and if I really want it, I might go with 250mil.
I don't even discuss rate with those I repeat on subsequent trips. Whether they go with that due to familiarity, a reliable payday, or what I don't know. I don't hesitate to order a meal or even special alcohol they want via rappi, I don't skimp on drinks in the apartment, snacks and stuff like that. I may also take a few small gifts (at the five below store) with me which I give them at the end if I felt things went well. Many even are willing to go round two, but I seldom do because I prefer once since nearing 50 more than money, my leches are at a premium down there. Jajaja.
Two other sources of income for these girls that is common at some point is webcamming, and simps. Most if not all have done it, considered or propositioned to do it. Just so people understand the landscape. Their attitude may also reflect their current circumstances. In my assessment however, They mostly are 10x better than the average monger in keeping emotions out of it.
Peace.
GeneHickman
08-03-22, 06:45
. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.
I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.A couple of points. Be careful about generalizing. MDE girls are good about selling a mirage. How many are exactly what they say they are is questionable down there. Lies are more ubiquitous than empanadas. And regarding the ever raging Centro debate. It's just a venue, and it's got its pluses and minuses. What I suggest is go there once or twice and check it out. Get a buddy or experienced monger and just do it, or if you're shit scared, go on a walking tour of downtown and you will pass around the vicinity of the church and botero plaza and can get a general sense of what you will find there. I went that way once with a bunch of tourists, and then felt comfortable enough to go alone during the afternoon peak time and roam about for an hour or two. I drew my own conclusion after that, so the debate here (often from people who have never even been there) does nothing for me. I have my conclusion. So that's my simple suggestion. We won't all draw the same conclusions.
JonnyPokerStar
08-03-22, 06:46
I've been to El Centro countless times and never seen a girl above 7 on a good day. Most of them being in the 5 to 6 range, average or below average looking. Same applies to Lleras. True beauties will always find other ways or venues to make much more money than working El Centro streets or the park. No matter the place, street working girls are always bottom feeders. Low end casa girls are in the same boat, just being less exposed. The difference is not only in the looks, but also in other things, like education, social skills, ability to speak a foreign language, self confidence, values and goals in life. You won't find (most likely) a college student wanting to become a doctor or lawyer selling her pussy in El Centro streets, but you can find her on Facebook or SA, for example, or at a place like La Isla.
I agree with Elvis, if one has high standards and is looking for gorgeous, intelligent women, one has to look elsewhere, and pay accordingly, or, alternatively, try a non pro scene. La Isla used to be good, but not anymore, I see very few doable girls every time I go there, but maybe I've just been out of luck.Do you mean to tell me that Colombian elites are not selling their pussies for seven dollars in El Centro?!
After MMM (MarvelousMotelMaiden) and her friend left, Freckle and her roommate were knocking on my door fifteen minutes later, somewhat unexpectedly. Dumb luck that the four chicas didn't overlap. Then needed to be fed, bedded, licked and fucked, but I cried "Uncle" and sent them back to Secret Puta Hotel a stones throw away, after domicilio from La Raza. If I go back over the last 36 hours or so I have sexed some ungodly number of chicas and I am ready to throw in the towel. At least long enough to get several hours of sleep and recharge. Amazonia is due for a visit in the morning, her first one this three-month trip mainly because she normally lives about 4-6 hours away in IDK-where-the-fuck-she-is with her newborn son. Amazingly, she told me she was ready to make another baby so who knows where that will lead.
I get it, females are more prone to showing public displays of affection than us guys, but is it just me or do Freckle and her little roommate look like lovers the way they drape themselves on each other? Jajajajaja, they deny it and I guess we will still call it "sisterly" love for now. The Little One loves to hang half-way out of the bed, all the time. Remember the other night, she made her pussy easy access to fuck because her ass was literally hanging over the edge of the bed, jajajaja. Hawt as fuk-fuk-fuk she is, they both are.
I am going to catch some shut eye. If I call Pumpkin up at any time between now which is a little after midnight and sun up, she will be knocking on my door in less than twenty minutes. What are the odds on that I Whassap her to come over and fuck me before daybreak, jajajajajaa? Ostee Out and you know the rest.
GeneHickman
08-03-22, 07:05
You paying 400 K? At least that was better than $200 US but wtf is going on when 400 K is a good price? Maybe I've been away too long but only since January.If you're in Gustos and want the chica right then and there, 400 k is a good price. A better strategy however is to chat up girls get their whatsapp numbers and message a couple of them another day around noon. Something in the 200-300 mil range should do the trick.
JonnyPokerStar
08-03-22, 07:47
You sound like a guy who thinks pussy is pussy and sees any woman as a piece of meat. As long as she has a vagina and a pulse, she is good to fuck, right? Have you ever thought that sex could be much better if there is a good connection / chemistry between the two? Difficult to establish one if she is dumb as fuck. But I agree, no references are needed if you are "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of a monger.This was your response to a post about 7 dollar working girls, in a forum about prostitution.
Valid points that I 100% agree with; but less so in the context of el centro girls.
Building anything beyond a basic rapport with a pro is ill-advised, especially when over 1/8 of pretty young cashiers are ultimately down to sleep with an ugly old fuck like me.
The seven rejections (assuming you're not Calvin Klein material either) should take no more than 15 minutes.
Now you have a cute little nice girl whose pussy smells like water, who cuddles and makes cute noises, is pleasant to talk to and maybe even smart and funny if you speak Spanish, and giggles at her mispronunciations of English words as you correct her patiently, pinching her soft firm cheek or dimpled little chin as a reward for improving the pronunciation. Or whatever, she's your paid fuckbuddy now, do what you want with her. Idk if you guys call this semi or non or what, but I explain it to my friends as a fuckbuddy who needs help with the bills.
This offers much more ROI on the time and energy (and money) you invest in your pursuit of pleasure, even against the risk of coming up empty handed.
But I'm with the first guy, el centro girls are broken little sex dolls and I slap myself for even considering inviting one to my apartment. I hope they find a Sugar, I hope some of you guys treat them nice, but they are not getting more than 30 of my minutes or luca. But they are getting that once a week or so at this point and I give it to them with great enthusiasm.
The standalone topic of el centro girls as people, the outcomes of selling your pussy and doing drugs for a year, how pretty young girls who would be commanding (yes I've seen it) 4 figures USD elsewhere end up selling it for 7 bucks in el centro etc are interesting and heavy topics for somewhere else.
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08-03-22, 09:48
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Stellar, groundbreaking session, the impetus was my leaving the country soon and dang if her birthday isn't tomorrow. So we celebrated.
Mr Enternational
08-03-22, 13:41
Two other sources of income for these girls that is common at some point is webcamming, and simps. Most if not all have done it, considered or propositioned to do it. Just so people understand the landscape. Their attitude may also reflect their current circumstances. In my assessment however, They mostly are 10x better than the average monger in keeping emotions out of it. A case of familiarity breeding contempt. These chicks are coming into contact with different mfs everyday so how are their emotions going to get involved. As soon as one is gone it is off to another. They do not get time to get used to one person. On the other hand the average monger is mongering 1 or 2 times per year with a limited amount of chicks and can not find love at home. So commences the emotions and simping.
Mr Enternational
08-03-22, 14:04
A couple of points. Be careful about generalizing. MDE girls are good about selling a mirage. How many are exactly what they say they are is questionable down there. Lies are more ubiquitous than empanadas. Dude Rio used to be full of chicks with that same bullshit. All the hookers said they were nurses or lawyers. I do not believe none of that shit until I see it. Once a chick did whip out her law school ID on me. I said oh so that is your real name.
She was beautiful. Maybe she was intelligent because she was in school? But what got me was the broad took Pringles from the minibar and ate them sitting in the toilet. I would not have known except the crumbs were all over the rug in front of the toilet. Then I looked in the trash and saw the can and an empty juice box. And I have been to many normal chicks' houses who are doctors and supposedly intelligent and their shit is a mess.
Dated one Hollywood actress and her house looked like a tornado went through it. I told my cousin who lives out there about it and later on my cousin told me the chick has her own reality show. I told my cousin yeah that is the same house, but they definitely cleaned that mf up for the show.
I guess everyone's idea of high standards is different. But mine does not end with beautiful and intelligent, and most certainly does not include being a hooker.
Interesting day at my favorite love motel where I take my GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-To-Girl) and where MMM (MarvelousMotelMaiden) works. Both have a shot at making my List, MMM more than just a shot, she is a rare jewel but it's becoming increasingly obvious that she needs to be trained, and I don't just mean her sweet holes, but her behavior, too.
Fotos: One thing I really dig about all GZGTG's crotch poses, is that I did not position her, that is a natural resting comfort position for her. I love it when they can get their ass down that low with their legs spread. Easy access to both holes at a great angle. I love the dirty socks, too. She has just the right amount of sluttiness in her, for me.I love those lights. Bought two for myself in el centro. Fun when girls are with you with music and lights.
I love those lights. Bought two for myself in el centro. Fun when girls are with you with music and lights.Pretty soon, if a chica shows up at your place and you don't have one, it's going to be like, "Donde esta tu bombillo"? Jajajajajajaja.
You guys realize they also double as a Blue Tooth speaker. Obviously not high fidelity, but gets the job done, especially when I take it to a love motel, where I should be headed any minute now, jeje.
Definitely serious. You have the same definition as I do, but there are many here whose definition is "I don't pay them outright, I just slip the money into their clothing or purse" or "When I say non Pro I mean a chick who doesn't not normally sell pussy and or this is her first time selling pussy to a gringo" or "On at least two occasions, the girl told me it was the first time in her life she requested money for sex. Is that type of girl a non-pro?" Or "And non-pros are usually willing to fuck you for a very long time without asking for money if they believe your are interested in the long game ("largo plaza" No matter what the status of a girl I have sex with, I always give them a regalo (present), and they never turn me down, presumably because of the way I give them the money. " or "To me a non-pro (non-prostitute) is a chick that does not fuck for money. So it sounds weird for you to say you are looking for chicks that don't fuck for money so that you can pay them for sex."Works for you. You do you. As you said, there are others who I know don't agree with your definition and those who do. Viva la difference. As long as guys don't project their beliefs onto others as if it's wrong to think otherwise, then there is room for everyone.
I am curious, what's the longest relationship you have had with one woman since you started mongering, if that's not too personal of a question? From the outside looking in, it appears as though you M. O. Is to do whatever it takes to bed a girl, and then leave her with the knowledge that you "didn't have to pay" as being the standard. Is it your belief that those same girls never took money from anyone else before or after you? In your mind, does that make you a "better" or "smarter" man? I have met more than one chica here who have been with guys who don't or won't pay, but they never last more than one or two sessions before they figure out what is going on and move on to someone else. Given the outrageous numbers you infer, it would appear that you mongering is a series of one-offs. Or do you have one or more anchor girls who your return to but never help them out in any way? Do chicas ever return to you after a period of absence? I seem to recall your writing that you don't even believe in buying birthday presents, and such. Is that a budgetary concern of yours or is it just sticking to your belief system, that as long as you don't pay, then you have proven to yourself (and the world?) that the chica is not a hooker? Is that your primary goal?
Elvis 2008
08-03-22, 17:01
Brother, as someone who has been to MDE 7 times. And been to every venue you suggested. You should absolutely go to La Isla and Fase dos.
Everyone has a different style of mongering, and if that works for you, go at it. All I can say is I have had girls for 150 mil on past trips and now 200 + taxi and they at times also work at La isla and Gustos. What they get there I don't know or frankly care, but if we meet it's 200 + taxi and I get what I want. Sometimes they will insist and if I really want it, I might go with 250mil.
I don't even discuss rate with those I repeat on subsequent trips. Whether they go with that due to familiarity, a reliable payday, or what I don't know. I don't hesitate to order a meal or even special alcohol they want via rappi, I don't skimp on drinks in the apartment, snacks and stuff like that. I may also take a few small gifts (at the five below store) with me which I give them at the end if I felt things went well. Many even are willing to go round two, but I seldom do because I prefer once since nearing 50 more than money, my leches are at a premium down there..I have gone GH and I want to compliment you on being a player. With strippers, you pay them full price the first time then you ask around and find out how much they make on a given night. This is where you ask everyone about what a woman makes in a night. Truth is so many times the women are bored shitless in the club, so if you tell them, "Hey, if it is slow and you are bored, just hang out with me instead of working, you will have a lot more fun and still get paid. " If they know you and are comfortable with you, they will do it. After a while, the condoms come off and not love but a superficial type of friendship can emerge.
I posted a hot WG here from Texas wanting $1000 for outcall. Truth is I still have a bevy of strippers who are as hot or hotter and probably better in bed that will do me if I want for 1/3 that amount. I think I have met two strippers who were not fucked in the head but they have amazing talents and not just in the bedroom. When I was at La Isla, there was a gal with flawless skin and toned as fuck who rode the pole as well as any stripper I had seen. She had the body of an Olympic gymnast. Like Miami Boy said, she is going to have a line of guys following her everywhere she goes, so why is she going to go to El Centro?
Strippers can be cool to hang out with. You just do not want to get emotionally involved with them. They are not sugar baby or GF material but friendly WG material, but it sounds like you already have that angle covered.
This was your response to a post about 7 dollar working girls, in a forum about prostitution.
Valid points that I 100% agree with; but less so in the context of el centro girls.
Building anything beyond a basic rapport with a pro is ill-advised, especially when over 1/8 of pretty young cashiers are ultimately down to sleep with an ugly old fuck like me..The only point on which I might be disparate is that not all of the El Centro girls are broken little sex dolls. Many, if not most, are. But I had my prototypical El Centro "diamond in the rough" chica here most of the night last night, Pumpkin. She's a Vennie. Got a kid, of course. But there's nothing broken down about her and I have her over to my place all the time with complete trust. I am amazed at the number of technical sexual things I have taught her considering her advocation, but that's probably consistent with why she is not broken down, or "damaged goods" is a phrase that fits well.
Out of curiosity, in your mind is your fuckbuddy who needs help with the bills a hooker or is that just semantics? I am guessing, with your healthy and realistic outlook, that you don't care or think about the labels, and don't feel a need to cubby-hole a chica or make a value judgment based on whether or not she will accept money for sex.
As I have been saying for quite some time here, the chicas in Medellin are on a continuum. Of course, it's easy to know where you are and what to do when you are at the extreme end of Puta-ville and everything is hard core and only about the money. But as soon as you start moving toward center, it's one continuous shade of gray. Where do you think all this talk about being "polite" to these chicas stems from? It's because they are on a continuum and the default is to not assume they are somehow inferior just because they are willing to accept money for sex. Plus, in their minds, it is often not a direct connection, but an indirect and even circuitous one.
.I completely agree. I think there are a few dynamics at play that contribute to the grey zone and many Paisas being ok with money for sex or gifts.
1) They have more traditional gender roles and dynamics than in the US or Europe and the idea that men are providers is a strong one. I see memes about this all the time on Facebook. A common one is that they are alergic to cheap men or that a good boyfriend gives money for hair, nails etc.
2) There is a tradition of amantes or mozas that is widespread in Latin culture but is especially strong here. Moza specifically is the Colombian term for mistress. A mistress is not a prepago and there is more going on there emotionally and in terms of relationship dynamics. But one of the factors going into those relationships is clearly financial. We tap into that, especially with the older man / younger woman dynamic.
3) Ultimately there is a huge financial and power disparity that should be recognized between the average Colombiana and foriegner. I'm heavily biased towards, at this point exclusively looking for, the nonpros and semipros because I find them to be more enjoyable in every way. But when you talk to these chicas and understand what some of them (especially the more nonpro ones who don't see many foriegners) are going through it becomes clear how huge a difference there is between your life and theirs. Many of the normal girls I met are earning around 1 million pesos a month (250-350 USD depending on the exchange). That goes much farther in Medellin than in the US or Europe. Still, they may be living with their parents, single moms, or are struggling to get by working 6 days a week. It seems obvious that they will see you differently than a guy from their barrio because of that dynamic, especially if you spend half or a third of their monthly salary taking them out. This is something I'm sensitive to too and I don't mind giving a gift to them if I feel like we have a good connection. The ones who are genuine will also look for ways to help you like clean up your place, cook for you, help you find things etc. In my case, the baker I met the last trip is a fitness addict and is currently helping me arrange remote coaching with her trainer.
Now, I'd definitely like to go out with wealthier women in the future. I get the feeling that they would be as close as you get to what we might consider a fully nonpro experience or even them taking you out. The closest I've gotten to that dynamic have been webcam girls. I know two, one in particular who is doing fairly well for herself, and I don't feel much internal or external pressure to give either of the ones I know money beyond taxi fares and money I spend going out with them. I'd stress that I've met both of them on Facebook completely by chance vs. On cam sites and I think they are / were both attracted to me. I imagine going out with a doctor, lawyer, or executive would be similar with a little extra class and higher-brow conversation thrown in.
Finally, if you want to be classy with a nonpro to semipro and make her not feel like she's selling herself don't directly link the money to sex and give them the amount you want / feel comfortable with. When I give that "regalito" I'll say something like "tenga esto por su pelo y unas" (take this for you hair and nails). Or "Tu me caiste super bien. Quiero dar te un regalito para ayudar con sus gastos" (I really like you. I want to give you a little gift to help with your expenses).
You sound like a guy who thinks pussy is pussy and sees any woman as a piece of meat. As long as she has a vagina and a pulse, she is good to fuck, right? Have you ever thought that sex could be much better if there is a good connection / chemistry between the two? Difficult to establish one if she is dumb as fuck. But I agree, no references are needed if you are "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of a monger.In baseball terms that would be "a swing and a miss", but you're so far off the mark you're not even playing the right sport. Didn't you read my post before responding?
I need to ask again. Did you read my post before responding?
Objectively, "pussy is pussy. " Take a look around and you can see it with your own eyes. See that guy kissing his 70 year old wife? See the guy smiling and happy with his 300# girlfriend? All types of people finding sexual satisfaction with all types of people. Pussy is pussy and dick is dick, and everyone has a different opinion on what is attractive.
Subjectively, is a different story. Subjectively I have certain standards. My standards are complex because they might change drastically from day to day. For example, my preference is for petite women, but some days I want a woman with large breasts. I prefer women with long, straight hair, but occasionally I want a woman with curls, or short hair. This all applies when I'm looking for someone to fuck. Chemistry doesn't come into play, but attitude does. She doesn't have to mesh seamlessly with me for several years, or even days. She just needs to be fun to be around for a few hours.
A few hours. Now I could spend months interviewing women, checking their knowledge, politics, religion and everything else, trying to find 1 girl to spend a few hours with, but it might turn out she's sexually a starfish. All the time, effort and money wasted; spending $500 on a $5 lay.
However, there's more to life than just fucking. I've posted many times about different activities with different girls: restaurants, movies, road trips, Guatape, or just hanging out with them and their friends. Not long ago I posted about the 5 days I spent with my girl in Bahia Solano, and more recently about the 5 days I spent with her in the US.
The meat of the subject is whether or not you're mongering. If you're mongering, you're looking for a temporary solution to a physical desire. You're not looking for someone to grow old with, someone to raise your children and provide a loving home. You're looking for someone who will fuck you for money. That's it. You might want to spend hours or days pretending it's something more, but in the end she's getting paid and you're getting laid.
When I'm mongering I understand that. I recognize the reality of P4P and I handle it accordingly.
When I'm not mongering, I'm interested in different qualities. My girl (previously girlfriend*) is intelligent. She comes from a respectable middle class family. She's compassionate and ideologically compatible with me. She understands decorum, while still looking sexy. She thinks for herself, yet submits herself to me. She thinks toward the future instead of living totally in the moment. She handles adversity well.
Most importantly, she was never looking for a john, or a sugar daddy. She wasn't even looking for a boyfriend. You won't find her on Facebook or Instagram and you certainly won't find her in La Isla or on SA.
It's been about 30 months for her to pass all my tests to be my girl. How long it will last nobody knows.
I completely agree. I think there are a few dynamics at play that contribute to the grey zone and many Paisas being ok with money for sex or gifts.
When I give that "regalito" I'll say something like "tenga esto por su pelo y unas" (take this for you hair and nails). Or "Tu me caiste super bien. Quiero dar te un regalito para ayudar con sus gastos" (I really like you. I want to give you a little gift to help with your expenses).And I love to throw in, "desde mi corazon" or that my gift is "from the heart". That seems to assuage the transaction further.
The only conceptual difference I perceive in what you wrote is that I see the women as the backbone of this country, and the men not being the strong, role model providers you listed. But I am going by nothing other than my own limited personal experience on that.
Do you mean to tell me that Colombian elites are not selling their pussies for seven dollars in El Centro?!Colombian elites aren't selling their pussy. Period.
Mr Enternational
08-03-22, 19:37
I am curious, what's the longest relationship you have had with one woman since you started mongering, if that's not too personal of a question?Depends on what you mean by relationship with one woman. If you mean monogamous then never. I am a kid in a candy store on this planet. If you mean fucking a chick then probably 20 years. I am more of a player than a monger. I have been this way my whole life and most men in my family and my friends are the same way.
From the outside looking in, it appears as though you M. O. Is to do whatever it takes to bed a girl,I do not care anything about bedding a girl. I just be myself and let nature take its course. Can't fuck all of them.
and then leave her with the knowledge that you "didn't have to pay" as being the standard.I don't mess with chicks that are expecting payment unless it is a hooker. And if she is expecting payment then wouldn't that mean she is a hooker?
Is it your belief that those same girls never took money from anyone else before or after you?Never thought about it and would not care. What they do on their own time is their business. Some chicks actually get mad because I don't care about shit like that. I figure you are a grown woman. If you want me to know something then you will tell me.
In your mind, does that make you a "better" or "smarter" man? Better or smarter? We are all just people doing people shit.
Given the outrageous numbers you infer, it would appear that you mongering is a series of one-offs.Just doing it to do it. Usually when I go somewhere I know plenty of normal chicks. If I get an inclination to fuck some paid chicks then they are not hard to find; and I do not mind letting a normal chick know that I know where the paid chicks are. (Why would I need to fuck you when chicks are over at such and such fucking for $15?) But I am usually not trying to cozy up to hookers and bring them little gifts as some mongers like doing and do things I would do with normal chicks. I have normal chicks to do friends and couples shit with.
Or do you have one or more anchor girls who your return to but never help them out in any way? Do chicas ever return to you after a period of absence?Seriously I would not even try to count the normal chicks that I mess with and have been messing with for years. If I took a stab at it then I would just say 50.
They always come back. Recently 2 chicks that I have not heard from in years hit me up. One I did not even know still had my number. She is a Mexican hairstylist chick that lives in California and she happened to be in my city with her friend for a hair convention. When I used to mess with her she was illegal. She ended up getting pregnant and she said it was this other dude's kid. I think she even got married. I was telling her friend if she told her that she cheated on me and got pregnant. She said actually I was cheating on the other guy with you. She said the kid is 11 years old, so that is how long it has been since I have heard from her. And she has papers now because back then she was afraid to travel because she was illegal.
I seem to recall your writing that you don't even believe in buying birthday presents,I do not buy a begging chick shit. And with over 50 normal chicks how could I possibly "help them out?" Most chicks have jobs anyway and are not needing to be helped out. But yeah I buy things I know they need when they don't ask. One of my ex girlfriends in Bogota has needed some new glasses for at least a few months. She has a boyfriend. I found out about the glasses because she showed up one day with some broken ones. I asked about them and she said she did not have money for new ones. Without telling her, I planned to buy her some new ones but when I was there she was either at work or out of town. Then recently she lost her job. Last week I asked her if she ever got any new glasses and I told her we could go get some the next day. (Her boyfriend saw the message before that when I asked her about going to dinner. She said he got HOT! And he has been helping her out since she lost her job.).
Anyway the next day we met on Calle 19 and got her some glasses. 470,000 pesos. I also gave her 200,000 pesos. Then I took her and her friend to lunch and after we went to the National Museum in Bogota.
And we have not slept together since we were a couple years ago. Me hanging out with someone or doing something nice for them is not contingent upon if we are fucking or not.
Is that a budgetary concern of yours or is it just sticking to your belief system, that as long as you don't pay, then you have proven to yourself (and the world?) that the chica is not a hooker? Is that your primary goal?I do not have a belief system that as long as I don't pay she is not a hooker. Hell I started messing with a hooker last month in Thailand. After the first night I paid her and later she said not to worry about money anymore. She just wants to spend time with me. So I no longer have to pay her, yet she is still a hooker. She even tells me when she is with customers. No big deal to me. I know she has bills to pay.
I do not have a primary goal. I am just living. I have nothing to prove. I fuck hookers the same as I do normal chicks. There are two songs by the same group that perfectly describe my life with women. S. O. S. Band: Just Be Good to Me and Just the Way You Like It. Some guys view themselves as living in sex prison while other guys can't beat chicks off with a stick.
I completely agree. I think there are a few dynamics at play that contribute to the grey zone and many Paisas being ok with money for sex or gifts.
1) They have more traditional gender roles and dynamics than in the US or Europe and the idea that men are providers is a strong one. I see memes about this all the time on Facebook. A common one is that they are alergic to cheap men or that a good boyfriend gives money for hair, nails etc.
2) There is a tradition of amantes or mozas that is widespread in Latin culture but is especially strong here. Moza specifically is the Colombian term for mistress. A mistress is not a prepago and there is more going on there emotionally and in terms of relationship dynamics. But one of the factors going into those relationships is clearly financial. We tap into that, especially with the older man / younger woman dynamic.
3) Ultimately there is a huge financial and power disparity that should be recognized between the average Colombiana and foriegner. I'm heavily biased towards, at this point exclusively looking for, the nonpros and semipros because I find them to be more enjoyable in every way. But when you talk to these chicas and understand what some of them (especially the more nonpro ones who don't see many foriegners) are going through it becomes clear how huge a difference there is between your life and theirs. Many of the normal girls I met are earning around 1 million pesos a month (250-350 USD depending on the exchange). That goes much farther in Medellin than in the US or Europe. Still, they may be living with their parents, single moms, or are struggling to get by working 6 days a week. It seems obvious that they will see you differently than a guy from their barrio because of that dynamic, especially if you spend half or a third of their monthly salary taking them out. This is something I'm sensitive to too and I don't mind giving a gift to them if I feel like we have a good connection. The ones who are genuine will also look for ways to help you like clean up your place, cook for you, help you find things etc. In my case, the baker I met the last trip is a fitness addict and is currently helping me arrange remote coaching with her trainer.
Now, I'd definitely like to go out with wealthier women in the future. I get the feeling that they would be as close as you get to what we might consider a fully nonpro experience or even them taking you out. The closest I've gotten to that dynamic have been webcam girls. I know two, one in particular who is doing fairly well for herself, and I don't feel much internal or external pressure to give either of the ones I know money beyond taxi fares and money I spend going out with them. I'd stress that I've met both of them on Facebook completely by chance vs. On cam sites and I think they are / were both attracted to me. I imagine going out with a doctor, lawyer, or executive would be similar with a little extra class and higher-brow conversation thrown in.
Finally, if you want to be classy with a nonpro to semipro and make her not feel like she's selling herself don't directly link the money to sex and give them the amount you want / feel comfortable with. When I give that "regalito" I'll say something like "tenga esto por su pelo y unas" (take this for you hair and nails). Or "Tu me caiste super bien. Quiero dar te un regalito para ayudar con sus gastos" (I really like you. I want to give you a little gift to help with your expenses).This is very insightful. I have not been to Medellin yet but I am planning my first trip next month. In my chats with FB girls, I am running into the gray area. Girls who say they want to hang out with me but say that they are not escorts. They never mention money but I will give them a gift of appreciation to help with their expenses when they leave. At times, I ask them what they are expecting and they usually say up to you, baby, if you want to give me something. I am going to go with flow here.
... Have you ever thought that sex could be much better if there is a good connection / chemistry between the two? Difficult to establish one if she is dumb as fuck. But I agree, no references are needed if you are "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of a monger.It is easier to have good connection if you speak Spanish, I guess you do. There are lots things to talk about that do not include a degree. Look RR69 and Osteo, they seem to be doing fine and happy. Are you as happy as either one of them?
Impressive list, I think I agree with the overall point that it is a gray area and a game of semantics. One person's wining, dining, and chit chat is another person's quid pro quo. I stand firm in my position that it's between the two consenting parties and no one else's business.
Switching gears, today Mayor Quintero announced 7 PM to 5 AM curfews for minors in the so-called Zona Rosas of Medellin (eg la 33 and la 70 in Laureles, and Parque Lleras, Manila, and Provenza in Poblado). It basically covers the nighttime hours. This is in response to intense pressure from his uribista political opponents. The holier than thou posturing reached a fever pitch during the past couple of weeks as Duque's era comes to a close. I hope no one will make the mistake of assuming this means the happy hunting grounds are going to be free and clear of forbidden fruit. Proceed with caution.
I completely agree. I think there are a few dynamics at play that contribute to the grey zone and many Paisas being ok with money for sex or gifts.
1) They have more traditional gender roles and dynamics than in the US or Europe and the idea that men are providers is a strong one. I see memes about this all the time on Facebook. A common one is that they are alergic to cheap men or that a good boyfriend gives money for hair, nails etc.
2) There is a tradition of amantes or mozas that is widespread in Latin culture but is especially strong here. Moza specifically is the Colombian term for mistress. A mistress is not a prepago and there is more going on there emotionally and in terms of relationship dynamics. But one of the factors going into those relationships is clearly financial. We tap into that, especially with the older man / younger woman dynamic.
3) Ultimately there is a huge financial and power disparity that should be recognized between the average Colombiana and foriegner. I'm heavily biased towards, at this point exclusively looking for, the nonpros and semipros because I find them to be more enjoyable in every way. But when you talk to these chicas and understand what some of them (especially the more nonpro ones who don't see many foriegners) are going through it becomes clear how huge a difference there is between your life and theirs. Many of the normal girls I met are earning around 1 million pesos a month (250-350 USD depending on the exchange). That goes much farther in Medellin than in the US or Europe. Still, they may be living with their parents, single moms, or are struggling to get by working 6 days a week. It seems obvious that they will see you differently than a guy from their barrio because of that dynamic, especially if you spend half or a third of their monthly salary taking them out. This is something I'm sensitive to too and I don't mind giving a gift to them if I feel like we have a good connection. The ones who are genuine will also look for ways to help you like clean up your place, cook for you, help you find things etc. In my case, the baker I met the last trip is a fitness addict and is currently helping me arrange remote coaching with her trainer.
Now, I'd definitely like to go out with wealthier women in the future. I get the feeling that they would be as close as you get to what we might consider a fully nonpro experience or even them taking you out. The closest I've gotten to that dynamic have been webcam girls. I know two, one in particular who is doing fairly well for herself, and I don't feel much internal or external pressure to give either of the ones I know money beyond taxi fares and money I spend going out with them. I'd stress that I've met both of them on Facebook completely by chance vs. On cam sites and I think they are / were both attracted to me. I imagine going out with a doctor, lawyer, or executive would be similar with a little extra class and higher-brow conversation thrown in.
Finally, if you want to be classy with a nonpro to semipro and make her not feel like she's selling herself don't directly link the money to sex and give them the amount you want / feel comfortable with. When I give that "regalito" I'll say something like "tenga esto por su pelo y unas" (take this for you hair and nails). Or "Tu me caiste super bien. Quiero dar te un regalito para ayudar con sus gastos" (I really like you. I want to give you a little gift to help with your expenses).
The bombillo is becoming the post pandemic equivalent of Blakman's infamous popcorn. What's next, Tony the Tiger roars and countertop reggaeton dancing?
I love those lights. Bought two for myself in el centro. Fun when girls are with you with music and lights.
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If you are coming into Medellin and have the money to stay at the Marriott, and you want to go to a place with the best chance you will find a girl you like, you should head to La Isla and if guys are being helpful, they should give a range of prices from that place. If you do not know the prices for takeout or have never done it from there, then shut the fuck about whether someone overpaid. You are being just as worthless as saying the guy overpaid for his hotel room or for his beer at La Isla.I think you haven't been to La Isla recently. I have. It's a different club now.
I am guessing he wanted BBBJ but didn't get it. Instead of bargaining price, I think he should have bargained service and paid more if necessary to get what he wanted. He may have got the hotter girls but it was with limited service. The net result is that he did not get the best. It's like you get a Pinto while paying BWM price. That was what we were discussing in Brazil forums. Hahaha. GP is inexperienced so he has been taken advantage of, that is partly why he could bargain from 1.3 M to 1 M. The difference matched what RR paid for 2. I will be surprised if he would do the same thing once he has more experience. Remember SJobs. He took a beating too.
...Ricerocket is helpful, ....This is what I came away with:
RR99: I paid 300 mil for 2 girls that provided BBFS service.
GP: I paid 2,400 mil for 2 girls that provided all covered service.
...paying $200 per night for 3 star accommodations ....I guess my BMW / Pinto analogy is similar to the above.
I have an upcoming trip to Medellin starting in September. My first. I'm planning to hang out for 4 weeks.
Place to stay: What do you think of Sheraton Four Points or Marriot. If I pay for double occupancy will I have difficulties bringing guests who will register at the front desk.
Best Ways to Meet Girls Online Prior To arrival: Recently, I signed up for Tinder. Chatted with several girls, however, reading posts from others, it seems Facebook may be a better option. Does FB have a passport feature similar to Tinder where my profile will be displayed. How does one meet girls who are not on my contact list. In other words, how does one get a stack of girls to browse through from a specific locale.
Sorry for the basic questions. Would really appreciate some feedback.My best choice is Alcazar de Oviedo, ln Poblado. Nice appartments and not so expencive. Daily cleaning included.
I just be myself and let nature take its courseAnd not being overly defensive. I feel like I understand you a lot better, not that it matters anywhere except maybe here, a little.
Not even on Seeking Arrangement?
Colombian elites aren't selling their pussy. Period.
Rather, she found me. I was standing still for a moment and she walked up to me. Absolutely gorgeous, tall, not too skinny. My wingman happened to be walking by. As he often puts it, he would not touch some of the chicas I take to love motels from Ground Zero with a ten foot pole, and calls them "ugly" while they are standing next to me, under the assumption that they don't understand a word of English. This time, the first words out of his mouth were, "She's beautiful". He was so smitten that I offered her up to him first, but he said he wasn't ready.
If you like your chicas tall, and not too curvy with a small firm butt, perky breasts with a face and a smile that makes you stop and look again, and again, then she will blow your socks off. She has a smidge extra baby-fat on her that I found adorable and kept her feeling very soft and feminine under my roving hands.
She hangs out with Butterscotch, another gorgeous Ground Zero find but who I wouldn't call undamaged. This chica, who I have not named yet, said she would have to lie to Butterscotch about being with me to keep the dynamic I have going with both of them running smoothly. I told her that I try not to lie about such things but that was her call.
Could have all been an act but she fooled me into believing she was fresh and sweet. Didn't say a word about the numerous fotos I snapped as long as I did not show her face. Compliant to my every request, I paid 25% above FMV (Fair Market Value) for one hour, for the excellent service, which depending on how you look at it, doesn't really mean I paid above FMV. I am always willing to pay more for good performance and a smooth session. Silky smooth, very appreciative, very affectionate, more like GFE (Girl Friend Experience). I gave her an orgasm with my tongue that I am 99% sure she did not fake based on her O-face and her pussy contractions on my finger. She acted embarrassed about it for a few seconds. She had one of the smoothest pussies I ever felt on the inside. Even her G-spot didn't have ridges, but was still sensitive and definitely helped me put her over the edge with my index finger, while I was licking her clit at the same time.
I don't know why she came up to me today of all days right when we were discussing the topic of the quality of women at Ground Zero here. Cosmic Blueberry Muffin shit, I guess. I didn't ask her to fill out a job application, so I don't know anything about her background and education. She definitely didn't speak English.
I know if you dressed her up and put some make-up on her, which she didn't need as far as I was concerned, she'the be the kind of stunner the ranking guys fixate upon.
As sure as I can be, she had a virgin asshole and she offered it up to me for our next meeting. I have paid as little as 50 mil COP and as much as 600 mil COP for anal virginity. I split the difference and offered her 250 mil COP, which would include bareback, I need to come in her ass, with fotos, including the money shot of my cum dripping out her sweet hole. She looked at me pensively for about four seconds, then said, "okay". So as I often do I will quote Bill Murray from Caddyshack and say, "So I got that goin' for me, which is nice".
Earlier, I was staring out the window of my Room 201 in the love motel closest to the church, after yet another stellar session with my GZGTG. In twenty minutes, I saw 5 gorgeous girls. Granted, that is a superior vantage point. I didn't keep track of the others. I have impeccable taste, so if I say gorgeous, then they are at least a five in your book, jajajajajajaajaaaa.
Colombian elites aren't selling their pussy. Period.That guy was joking but elite colombianas sell their pussies via arranged marriages to other rich families, etc. All the time. If you marry a guy from a 'good' meaning wealthy family, that you are not really in love with, that's selling your pussy, or at least leasing it out long-term.
Not even on Seeking Arrangement?You think SA is some sort of an exclusive platform for the elites? Come on.
Colombian elites aren't selling their pussy. Period.Cost him one million pesos. As I recall, she would not accept one peso less.
Elvis 2008
08-04-22, 05:22
You sound like a guy who thinks pussy is pussy and sees any woman as a piece of meat. As long as she has a vagina and a pulse, she is good to fuck, right? Have you ever thought that sex could be much better if there is a good connection / chemistry between the two? Difficult to establish one if she is dumb as fuck. But I agree, no references are needed if you are "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of a monger.You pretty much nailed it. JjBee's moderator buddy censored my post when I called him out on this.
I figured he would respond to you with arrogance and take both sides of the issue, and he did not disappoint. The whole post is about a WG than he says he would not want to marry a WG. Which is it? Wife or WG? Who knows? The key is you are not special enough to figure it out. To me, it is like okay pal. Let us call a truce. You and your crew stay in Centro and tell us how great you have it and how you have it all figured out and how getting Colombian elites is impossible, and you know why that is right? Because if those players cannot do it, well, then no one can. Let's see if the moderator protects his baby again.
Thing is MB with what you just posted you are not a average monger but ahead of the game. When you made that comment about elites not being on seeking, I am wondering what you are putting in your profile and why you are not getting the hits and elites like I was. What are you putting in as your income and assets? Your income should be $200,000 and your assets should be $1 million. Even if it is not that, it does not take much to look like you have wealth in Colombia right?
Yeah, most women on seeking are your P4 P players, but I met one girl whose family was well to do. She was in college, and her father, an entrepreneur, paid for her schooling and an apartment in Medellin. If I had to guess, I would put his income in the top 5% of Colombians.
Then there was one 21 year old university student who was different than the typical P4 P girl. She looked like someone pampered her whole life. Once again, she was in school and had her apartment paid for. She told me her mother was a brain surgeon and she struck me as someone who was cut off by her mother for being too greedy. Her telling me this changed nothing and if this was true and I have no reason to believe otherwise, that would probably put her mother in the top 1% of all wage earners in Colombia.
And that was just in Medellin. Don Carlos got to a seeking girl before I did who picked up him in a Mercedes. I had talked to her. She was a lawyer, Paris trained chef, and had travelled all over the world.
These women seemed elite to me. Of course, the Medellin morons will disagree. It is not possible that any of these woman are better than those in Centro. Heck, the La Isla women are Pintos now. LOL.
Took a tour to Guatape. Nice experience well worth the $30 fee + 20 mil for climbing the rock. As usual the messenger was hot with chickas I don't want to repeat. Reached out to the petite negra that had me cum in the condone. She was all ears but when push came to show there was some story about cooking dinner for mum. That's actually the first flake on my trip yet. I quickly reached out to a chicka who I have been chatting with earlier (the one that prioritized studying more than fucking me). After her first no she has been sending me text a couple of times. Tonight she was on in like no time at all. Result was like her coming 1. 5 hours later than the first one was scheduled.
Hadn't told her in the chat that my Spanish is malo and I hadn't the energy to evolve a huge convo on the translator. I just put on some music and showed her the mirror. This one really liked the mirror. After that we just talked body talk. A well known language for Medellin chickas. Had a good experience there in the sack but she was a bit shy to let me touch and lick. Well, she got me off anyway and both were happy. No repeat with this one.
Scheduled petite negra for tomorrow night after my coffee plantation tour. Let's see if I can squeeze in a Centro hit inbetween too.
Popeye getting used to life in Medellin.
I finished my work and felt outgoing so I began to think which chica from the roster to choose, if any. Flaky vennie popped in my mind. It's been more than a week since I've seen her. I sent an Hola to test the responsiveness and got an instant reply.
Last time I sessioned with her I paid 60 for hh in the strip club (scheduling a session outside the club earlier turned into a complete waste of time-she quoted me 100 for an hour and didn't show up). I decided to try again nonetheless. I asked her whether she'd prefer to meet me in a club for 60 mil for 30 min, or in a hotel for 60 mil for an hour. Predictably she voted for the hotel. She also asked if I'll pay for her taxi, to which I said yes.
This time she was only 10 minutes late which is reasonable considering the afternoon traffic, and she was sending me photos with the status updates on the way. It seems my complaints, jokes and a bit of cold shoulder finally got through to her.
I gave her 20 mil to pay the driver and she brought me 9 back. She dressed in civilian clothes. Ripped jeans and baggy hoodie. Still, we turned some heads in the hotel lobby, I assume due to the contrast between my aged gringo mug and her baby face. Underneath she wore a skimpy black two-piece. I paid the room, 18 mil for 3 h, left 2 mil tip.
OK, music on, shower, and we're off to the races.
Foreplay, bareback BJ, then cover on. DFK, several positions, light choking both ways, some hair pulling and scratching. Good passionate session, no clock watching. Seems like she got off herself at least twice (or cared to pretend so convincingly jaja). We share a drink, some snacks, talk a bit. I give her the money plus 7 mil for taxi back that she asked for, little propina and I take some photos (attached).
Earlier I considered the possibility of inviting her to my place but the way she moaned at particular times would definitely bother my neighbours since the front door sound isolation is less than satisfactory (plus I did promise the owner "no fiestas".
She couldn't get a driver to accept the ride to her place, not sure what was the app. I tried cabify on my phone (I don't have anything else, I used taxi only once on the ride form the airport). No takers either. We went outside looking for a taxi on the corner. No luck. The hustler from Yakusa with a shiner got involved and started whistling and waving to haul some. Nope. They just drove past. Finally, some older gentlemen approached, talked with Flaky and they agreed on a ride.
Civilian unmarked car, I noted the license plate which I sent to Flaky and asked her to let me know once she arrives safely (which she confirmed after 10 minutes). I gave the Yakusa guy 2 mil for his efforts, bumped fists and I took a walk back home. Bought some bananas from the street vendor on the way (6 for 2 mil) to recharge after an intense workout.
Looking at the google timeline we spent in the hotel a little over 2 hours.
There is more chicas available here than I could ever enjoy. I didn't prepare for such overabundance. I already had to reject some of the 'perfectly good' chicas to make room for the top performers and even among those there are some difficult choices to make. Especially since after little more than a week of debauchery I found myself not very 'hungry', so they have to compete for a limited spot. Lately after a good session and a pop it's usually 48 hours before I'm back in optimal mood. Yes, I could get hard the next day too (or if not use Sildenafil) but often I just don't enjoy it as much or don't even feel like hunting. And if it's more a chore than fun then it's kind of pointless for me (during some sessions I did wonder whether I'm not getting a short end of stick here-she's getting entertained, fed, kissed, fucked good and paid cash on top of that jaja).
Such an extended downtime wasn't the case for me up until recently, I suspect an increased prolactin hormone levels which might be causing it and perhaps some drops in the testosterone as well. Planning to have that checked. Diet might have something to do with it too since I'm eating much less meat and more fruit. I know of some substances that always increased my libido significantly but the prospect of couple years in Colombian jail makes even my little head hesitate a bit.
Mr Osteoknot, on one of your ass eating photos I noticed you aren't the spring chicken I assumed you to be. Is it the pink magic that allows you to achieve such Olympic feats or are you naturally high in testosterone on top of that?
Their procedures obviously keep changing. Many years ago, if I asked to buy one ticket, they would sell me a paper ticket. But if I bought more than one ticket, they would give me a card. Then they did away with paper tickets and always gave me a card. Later, there was a one time charge for the card, which I was allowed to keep. Try buying four tickets the next time you go to the window and see if they will give, or sell, you a card.I checked this out. There was a comercial at the Metro station about their website and an app. I went into the website and though there was a english version, it wasn't easy to understand. No way of buying a ticket online but a link to the app. Downloaded the app. To buy a ticket in the app you had to present a Colombian ID. I go back to the web page an go to help. There is a answer on how to get civica card. As a note in this answer it says that since world wide supply of data chips is low there is not so many civica cards at hand. No specification of where to find them. I think this is the answer to the question. They have stopped delivering new cards.
Remember that preggo chica in the park? That was the first time I ever casually mentioned a chica here and three other guys knew exactly who I was talking about, she is that hawt. We all spied her in Parque Botero. I had basically a washout session with her the first time but we will just consider that the set up. I was on my way to see my waiting GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-to-Girl) when I spied the preggo chica again, same spot. She remembered me. I didn't fuck around and wasn't going to get caught dickering in the room like last time so I told her 100 mil COP for an hour, no restrictions, no condoms. She hesitated for a few seconds then accepted.
She clearly is new to the game and doing the single mother with no visible means of support routine. She walked me over to yet another love motel I had never seen before. She might be getting a kickback because I was told I had to rent the room for two hours for 40 mil COP. Okay, I wasn't going to stop now.
She was detached and disinterested. I didn't care. She gave me head kneeling at bedside, I ate her out and fucked in missionary and doggy. While she was in doggy I gave her little asshole a good tongue reaming and she didn't flinch. Didn't respond, but didn't flinch, sometimes a girl will pull away the first time she feels a tongue on her bung hole.
Pussy felt great, just like pregnant pussy should. I gave her my best tongue treatment and when I asked her if she liked it she said, "un poco" or a little bit.
That was yesterday. Her due date is today, jajajaja. She told me she would meet me back at the same spot after her prenatal visit at the hospital today to do it again and I said sure.
She has a beautiful face with huge puppy dog eyes and an amazing pregnant body. Before she went down on me for bareback oral she asked me two or three times if I had any sexual diseases. I thought to myself, if a guy would knowingly go out with an STD to monger, then he probably is not going to admit it, right? But she needed the reassurance and I gave it to her, then I gave it to her.
Now how would you "ranking" guys score a chica like this? I mean, if you were into preggos, she'the have to be close to a nine or above, but some guys are turned off by it, so then is she a three? Jajajajaja. I guess preggos are their own niche.
I checked this out. There was a comercial at the Metro station about their website and an app. I went into the website and though there was a english version, it wasn't easy to understand. No way of buying a ticket online but a link to the app. Downloaded the app. To buy a ticket in the app you had to present a Colombian ID. I go back to the web page an go to help. There is a answer on how to get civica card. As a note in this answer it says that since world wide supply of data chips is low there is not so many civica cards at hand. No specification of where to find them. I think this is the answer to the question. They have stopped delivering new cards.This explains a lot, yesterday I noticed riders, on the Metro, mostly foreigners, using a different type of card to access the Metro.
It's amazing how the Pandemic has affected everything.
At least there's no shortage of hoes, if anything, at least in Colombia, things couldn't be better.
Popeye getting used to life in Medellin.Your a work in progress making all the rounds for your first visit to Medellin.
I get the sense you will be back here after you go home, many more times in the future, and you will look back at your maiden voyage and think about how clumsy things were versus after several visits here.
The longer term board members with lot's of personal experience in Colombia know exactly what I am talking about.
And who knows, at the end of the day you may become a Centro street rat, or total Fayboo guy, whatever though, it can all be good.
The bombillo is becoming the post pandemic equivalent of Blakman's infamous popcorn. What's next, Tony the Tiger roars and countertop reggaeton dancing?As I recall Blakman was here during the Pandemic and always dueling with who I think it was Slapshot? As to what the Chicas liked to drink and munch on.
And the comparison between the two was like night and day, with the difference being kind of like eating burgers or lobster.
That eight months Colombia was closed during the Pandemic was an interesting time here.
Lot's of guys kind of vicariously imagined having sex here reading the reports from the guys down here.
Cost him one million pesos. As I recall, she would not accept one peso less.It's interesting that a Doctors visit, such as to a specialist like a Dermatologist, a highly trained and experienced one would charge approximately 200,000 Pesos.
So I guess there's some money to be made in hooking, even for highly educated professionals.
Mr Osteoknot, on one of your ass eating photos I noticed you aren't the spring chicken I assumed you to be. Is it the pink magic that allows you to achieve such Olympic feats or are you naturally high in testosterone on top of that?Is what foto did I post that made me look old? Jajajaja.
I have always had an unnatural amount of energy. And Medellin makes me feel younger still. My BMI (body mass index) is in the normal range, as are my cholesterol, blood pressure, and fasting glucose. I take no prescription meds. I am often mistaken for 10-20 years younger than I am. I have all my hair, my teeth, and my belly is flat. I never missed a day of work in my entire career before retiring in 2019 and I have been doing recreational drugs since I was 13 yo. I've noticed none of the chicas care about my age, but they do notice when a guy takes some pride in his appearance, although I am no fashion plate.
And yet, if you read some of the posts here, I am an unhealthy, drug addicted degenerate. Maybe degenerate, but I obviously would match up well to any of my detractors. Amusing how people fill in their knowledge gaps with so much prejudice and bias, but that's just brains being brains! Ostee Out!
Y... the La Isla women are Pintos now. LOL.I have never shied away that I like La Isla. To me, not all women in La Isla are BMWs, otherwise I can just tell any El Centro girl to go to work in La Isla, then you would consider them to be BMWs, right?
I think you are a good guy who just takes a different side. Why? Because you defended other members and you have shared information that others don't. I remember JB62 was asking info in Bogota thread and you provided the info too. I just don't see the negative side of you shown here would be true when meet in person.
Butterscotch in another random Ground Zero unpolished diamond in the rough. She get's wolf whistles and stares wherever we go. She was a total dud our first three or four sessions but something told me to stick with her. Once she started to trust and feel safe with me, she transformed into a sexual dynamo with no pretenses. She loves to get fucked and has orgasms from straight fucking.
She was my sub for Sweetie Pie, or the other gorgeous blonde Secret brought to me but then tried to con me out of extra payment. I somewhat vindictively wrote Secret, "My gorgeous blonde is better than your gorgeous blonde" and told Scarlet I would not be seeing her or her Nubile Newbies again this trip and I have stuck to my guns.
But then I stupidly fell asleep high in my room with Butterscotch and she rifled about 300 mil COP out of my bag. If you wake up in a room with a girl and she is out of bed, completely dressed and ready to leave, you have been robbed. Trust me, I know.
From that day on, I dunno how long ago, a week or more. I told her she could keep the money and come back and see me again is she just admitted she took it. Absolute denial for the first 8-10 Whassaps.
I softened my stance and told her I wouldn't even call it stealing, that I was to blame for leaving "papaya" out in the open, and all she had to do was write, "Yes, I did it".
She responded "Yes". I wrote you mean, yes, you did it? "Yes". Fine, all is forgiven, everything will be locked up from now on when you come over, but we can still be friends.
I am pretty sure she has some significant mental illness based on her sometimes erratic behavior, but she is never violent, and she fucks like the Energizer Bunny Rabbit, and just look at that body and pussy. I was looking for any excuse to take her back and I am happy with the outcome, so far. She also fucks for below FMV (Fair Market Value).
She rarely wears a stitch of make-up. Put her in some fancy clothes and paint on her face, and you have one of those "nines" guys torture themselves over based on physical appearance, at the higher priced venues.
NeilGeorge
08-04-22, 16:58
Remember that preggo chica in the park? ...She gave me head kneeling at bedside, I ate her out and fucked in missionary and doggy. While she was in doggy I gave her little asshole a good tongue reaming and she didn't flinch. Didn't respond, but didn't flinch, sometimes a girl will pull away the first time she feels a tongue on her bung hole.
... but some guys are turned off by it, so then is she a three? Jajajajaja. I guess preggos are their own niche.Sounds like eating the results of another man's cum. And licking her asshole.
Not my cup of Tea.
I feel for you. No one should be subjected to the Kafkaesque hell of Colombian web sites, especially not the government web sites. They make me smile and laugh because they bring to mind the irony of the Antioquia government's "software valley" and "digital nomad" market programs. These programs promote Colombia as a paradise for entrepreneurs looking for low cost web development resources. Well, this is one of those examples of getting what you pay for. The content and programming of so many local websites would look bad even if this were still 1997. They are full of wrong and out of date information and runtime errors that leave you dizzy.
Anyway, if you wait on line at San Antonio you can score a Civica. Avoid rush hour and it won't take very long.
I checked this out. There was a comercial at the Metro station about their website and an app. I went into the website and though there was a english version, it wasn't easy to understand. No way of buying a ticket online but a link to the app. Downloaded the app. To buy a ticket in the app you had to present a Colombian ID. I go back to the web page an go to help. There is a answer on how to get civica card. As a note in this answer it says that since world wide supply of data chips is low there is not so many civica cards at hand. No specification of where to find them. I think this is the answer to the question. They have stopped delivering new cards.
It was indeed the Slapshot / Blakman show and it was a welcome break from watching the President's coronavirus briefings on television every night.
As I recall Blakman was here during the Pandemic and always dueling with who I think it was Slapshot? As to what the Chicas liked to drink and munch on.
And the comparison between the two was like night and day, with the difference being kind of like eating burgers or lobster.
That eight months Colombia was closed during the Pandemic was an interesting time here.
Lot's of guys kind of vicariously imagined having sex here reading the reports from the guys down here.
A few weeks ago I was in Bancolombia branch to replace my expired debit card. The manager kept insisting I get a Civica linked card. She wouldn't back off even after I told her a have several Civica cards already. Maybe this is why. I went along with it just to get out of the bank after I was there nearly an hour.
This explains a lot, yesterday I noticed riders, on the Metro, mostly foreigners, using a different type of card to access the Metro.
It's amazing how the Pandemic has affected everything.
At least there's no shortage of hoes, if anything, at least in Colombia, things couldn't be better.
Wow, hats off for the report and photos. Now, where's the pic of her jugs jaja? They seem to be much bigger compared to the last time I saw her.
Remember that preggo chica in the park? That was the first time I ever casually mentioned a chica here and three other guys knew exactly who I was talking about, she is that hawt. We all spied her in Parque Botero. I had basically a washout session with her the first time but we will just consider that the set up. I was on my way to see my waiting GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-to-Girl) when I spied the preggo chica again, same spot. She remembered me. I didn't fuck around and wasn't going to get caught dickering in the room like last time so I told her 100 mil COP for an hour, no restrictions, no condoms. She hesitated for a few seconds then accepted.
She clearly is new to the game and doing the single mother with no visible means of support routine. She walked me over to yet another love motel I had never seen before. She might be getting a kickback because I was told I had to rent the room for two hours for 40 mil COP. Okay, I wasn't going to stop now.
She was detached and disinterested. I didn't care. She gave me head kneeling at bedside, I ate her out and fucked in missionary and doggy. While she was in doggy I gave her little asshole a good tongue reaming and she didn't flinch. Didn't respond, but didn't flinch, sometimes a girl will pull away the first time she feels a tongue on her bung hole.
Pussy felt great, just like pregnant pussy should. I gave her my best tongue treatment and when I asked her if she liked it she said, "un poco" or a little bit.
That was yesterday. Her due date is today, jajajaja. She told me she would meet me back at the same spot after her prenatal visit at the hospital today to do it again and I said sure.
She has a beautiful face with huge puppy dog eyes and an amazing pregnant body. Before she went down on me for bareback oral she asked me two or three times if I had any sexual diseases. I thought to myself, if a guy would knowingly go out with an STD to monger, then he probably is not going to admit it, right? But she needed the reassurance and I gave it to her, then I gave it to her.
Now how would you "ranking" guys score a chica like this? I mean, if you were into preggos, she'the have to be close to a nine or above, but some guys are turned off by it, so then is she a three? Jajajajaja. I guess preggos are their own niche.
You are right about the women making things work in terms of families, kids in the lower / working class. I get the feeling men play a greater economic role in wealthier families. I'm not saying they are faithful, if anything they probably have more women due to their money, but they support their kids and wives. But, I need to talk to more men and also more middle-class to wealthy people to get a fuller picture of how relationships and things work from their perspective (goals for the future). Anyway, I come from at this from a social science / anthropology perspective which makes me want to get to the bottom of how these social dynamics work. The way I see it, knowledge is power.
Here is a last general tip (for all of you) about how to deal with requests for money online or in person. I love the term "interesada". It is essentially equivalent to gold digger. I find if you preempt with that in a smooth, indirect way during a conversation it stops some requests for money in their tracks. Don't directly call a woman interesada, but you can say "intento mucho evitar las interesadas" (I try as much as possible to avoid the gold diggers) or something to that effect. Many Colombian women are quite proud despite their very real financial needs and they don't want to see themselves in that negative light. I've also said "Soy muy sensitivo sobre el dinero. Quiero estar seguro si estoy hablando con o viendo a alguien es porque tienen interes o why atraccion a mi como persona" (I'm very sensitive about money. I want to be certain that if I'm talking to somebody or seeing them that its because they are interested in and attracted to me as a person). Or "soy una persona con ojos abiertos why yo se que la amistad why amor verdadero no son basado en dinero" (I'm a person with open eyes and I know that true friendship and love aren't based on money). But I do think some strategic gifts are a good way to grease the wheels of any relationship. Just be sure it's on your terms.
And I love to throw in, "desde mi corazon" or that my gift is "from the heart". That seems to assuage the transaction further.
The only conceptual difference I perceive in what you wrote is that I see the women as the backbone of this country, and the men not being the strong, role model providers you listed. But I am going by nothing other than my own limited personal experience on that.
You are right about the women making things work in terms of families, kids in the lower / working class. I get the feeling men play a greater economic role in wealthier families. I'm not saying they are faithful, if anything they probably have more women due to their money, but they support their kids and wives. The lower class makes up 80% of the general population. The wealthier class would obviously control more of the money.
If you're into social anthropology, how about the Medellin saying, "When a woman cheats on you, it's with another woman". Just thought I'd throw that in there for no particular reason other than human interest.
Elvis 2008
08-04-22, 18:33
I have never shied away that I like La Isla. To me, not all women in La Isla are BMWs, otherwise I can just tell any El Centro girl to go to work in La Isla, then you would consider them to be BMWs, right?But you do not know what this poster got. He seemed happy with what he had. If she was the gymnast type I saw, he did not overpay at all. If she was hideous or average looking, then he probably did, but I was not there and neither were you or anyone else.
When you tell someone they way overpaid for a beer at La Isla or a hotel room at the Marriott, that would be considered obnoxious as fuck. Why is not the same with women?
The reason we have these forums is for information and that price for takeout from La Isla is reasonable. If you do not like, do not go there but shut up. This is not helping. It is grand standing and bullying. Saying La Isla is charging $5 a beer is not a threat to you. Exito is not going to charge those prices and bashing guys who drink beer at La Isla or take out women from there is nuts.
I think you are a good guy who just takes a different side. Why? Because you defended other members and you have shared information that others don't. I remember JB62 was asking info in Bogota thread and you provided the info too. I just don't see the negative side of you shown here would be true when meet in person.Nounce, my agenda is everyone be informed, have a good time. And not be fucked with when sharing information. What goes on with these Medellin morons is that any potential threat to their stomping grounds, and they go nuts. Seeking is not a threat to the playground and neither is La Isla, and I wonder if part of the reason for this is these guys who pay so little know they are so open to being bashed for what they are doing.
I just saw a sign at the Cartagena airport bashing sex tourism. In Florida at the airport, I heard one of those announcers overhead on tape speaking out against trafficking. By the way, LE's POV is that if you see a WG, you are supporting trafficking even if the woman is not trafficked. The DAs blabbered on about Robert Kraft and trafficking even when the woman was not trafficked. And I heard these three idiots at the Cartagena airport openly talking and loudly talking about the places they went for sex.
As far as being in the minority, that can change in a second, and it is important to be morally in the right and not just in what you perceive as the majority. Congress has passed a law that you cannot have sex overseas with a minor, so they have given LE the ability to reach overseas with sexuality. The truth is if the Feds shined a light on what you all were doing you would see very quickly that your belief that you are in a majority would be gone. You losers are bullying American men into giving these poor 3rd world women, refugees, and single moms less money?
Now compare that to where I am and have been. And I am negative? With all due respect, Nounce, quit listening to the Medellin morons and get your head out of your ass. It should not take a probe by the Feds to see what you all are doing is wrong.
Sounds like eating the results of another man's cum. And licking her asshole.
Not my cup of Tea.Perhaps times are changing, and licking assholes and slurping down another guy's Jizz will become in vogue. Maybe I'm missing something here.
Regardless, not my cup of tea either, and there have been other posts about guy's licking girls assholes, but gargling with a Chica's douche water and / or getting the remnants of a hot load from the John before assuming she was barebacked is perhaps new territory here, as I haven't seen any posts of guys doing that, not at least yet.
I feel for you. No one should be subjected to the Kafkaesque hell of Colombian web sites, especially not the government web sites. They make me smile and laugh because they bring to mind the irony of the Antioquia government's "software valley" and "digital nomad" market programs. These programs promote Colombia as a paradise for entrepreneurs looking for low cost web development resources. Well, this is one of those examples of getting what you pay for. The content and programming of so many local websites would look bad even if this were still 1997. They are full of wrong and out of date information and runtime errors that leave you dizzy..Effective October 20 of this year the Visa regulations will change in Colombia with some new categories. Interesting enough is that they have a Digital Nomad Visa along with a lot of changes to requirements for the many types of visa they offer in the Visitor, Migrant, and Resident categories. Only thing missing is a Monger Visa. LOL.
You pretty much nailed it. JjBee's moderator buddy censored my post when I called him out on this.
I figured he would respond to you with arrogance and take both sides of the issue, and he did not disappoint. The whole post is about a WG than he says he would not want to marry a WG. Which is it? Wife or WG? Who knows? The key is you are not special enough to figure it out. To me, it is like okay pal. Let us call a truce. You and your crew stay in Centro and tell us how great you have it and how you have it all figured out and how getting Colombian elites is impossible, and you know why that is right? Because if those players cannot do it, well, then no one can. Let's see if the moderator protects his baby again.
Thing is MB with what you just posted you are not a average monger but ahead of the game. When you made that comment about elites not being on seeking, I am wondering what you are putting in your profile and why you are not getting the hits and elites like I was. What are you putting in as your income and assets? Your income should be $200,000 and your assets should be $1 million. Even if it is not that, it does not take much to look like you have wealth in Colombia right?
Yeah, most women on seeking are your P4 P players, but I met one girl whose family was well to do. She was in college, and her father, an entrepreneur, paid for her schooling and an apartment in Medellin. If I had to guess, I would put his income in the top 5% of Colombians.
Then there was one 21 year old university student who was different than the typical P4 P girl. She looked like someone pampered her whole life. Once again, she was in school and had her apartment paid for. She told me her mother was a brain surgeon and she struck me as someone who was cut off by her mother for being too greedy. Her telling me this changed nothing and if this was true and I have no reason to believe otherwise, that would probably put her mother in the top 1% of all wage earners in Colombia.
And that was just in Medellin. Don Carlos got to a seeking girl before I did who picked up him in a Mercedes. I had talked to her. She was a lawyer, Paris trained chef, and had travelled all over the world.
These women seemed elite to me. Of course, the Medellin morons will disagree. It is not possible that any of these woman are better than those in Centro. Heck, the La Isla women are Pintos now. LOL.I'm not really looking for elites or someone who comes from a rich family or has an established career. My target audience is 18-24 yo, and the sweet spot is 22-24 yo, ideally college girls or fresh out of college having a part time job. I like them young, fresh and energetic, without kids, prior marriages, etc. These girls are more fun to be with and easier to meet because they usually have flexible schedules vs someone working 6 days a week and taking care of kids on top of that. I'm not looking for someone broke as fuck, and most centro girls are like that, broke af, can't even afford to pay a water or cellphone bill (heck, some of them don't even own one). The girls I'm meeting have their basic needs covered / paid for, they are not stressed out all the time and I don't have to watch my stuff because they won't steal it.
To date elites, one has to live here full time. I have tried to meet a dentist, an industrial engineer and a real estate broker, but it was difficult to schedule, and my limited time here is precious, so i gave up.
It's hard to argue with your analysis here.
Sounds like eating the results of another man's cum. And licking her asshole.
Not my cup of Tea.
Is what foto did I post that made me look old? Jajajaja.Jaja not "old" exactly, just older than the number of chicas you were reporting on handling led me to assume. I thought you are twenty something swimming in testosterone.
Well, clearly whatever you have been doing works for you as the results speak for themselves.
As for being a degenerate, this is more of moral issue not a medical one but no doubt the adventures you report on here place you on the tail end of the bell curve (whether it is the 'right' end or not is another story and a topic for an endless / pointless discussion).
Some ATM info for the Revolut card (MasterCard) users:
Davivienda. Error.
BBVA. Error.
Caja Social. Error.
Banco de Bogota. Error.
Bancolombia. Ok, 600 mil withdrawal limit with 22 mil fee.
Green ATM (I forget the name, 4 letters I think, starting with B) - ok, 18 mil fee.
Banco Pichincha. Used to work, not any more.
Colpatria. Ok, no fee and withdrawal limit at least 900 mil at once, possibly more but didn't try.
Also on the topic, if one needs to make a cash deposit to Bancolombia account there are couple ATMs called "Cajero Multifuncional" where one can input cash. There is also a lot of "corresponsales bancarios" points all around, small shops etc where one can just ask for "consignacion en efectivo", hand cash and the account number and they will make a deposit.
What is Revolut?
Some ATM info for the Revolut card (MasterCard) users:
Davivienda. Error.
BBVA. Error.
Caja Social. Error.
Banco de Bogota. Error.
Banclolombia. Ok, 600 mil withdrawal limit with 22 mil fee.
Green ATM (I forget the name, 4 letters I think, starting with B) - ok, 18 mil fee.
Banco Pichincha. Used to work, not any more.
Colpatria. Ok, no fee and withdrawal limit at least 900 mil at once, possibly more but didn't try.
Also on the topic, if one needs to make a cash deposit to Bancolombia account there are couple ATMs called "Cajero Multifuncional" where one can input cash. There is also a lot of "corresponsales bancarios" points all around, small shops etc where one can just ask for "consignacion en efectivo", hand cash and account number and they will make a deposit.
Sounds like eating the results of another man's cum. And licking her asshole.
Not my cup of Tea.Can't say I even follow your line of reasoning. I always wonder what the motivation is when someone goes out of their way to diss another guy for mongering. Self validation is the only thing that really fits. Thanks for "sharing", jajaja. If I had your feeling about another post, I would ignore it and move on. But I guess that's just me in this example.
Do you reckon the Mercedes was all paid up and owned outright?
I'm not really looking for elites or someone who comes from a rich family or has an established career. My target audience is 18-24 yo, and the sweet spot is 22-24 yo, ideally college girls or fresh out of college having a part time job. I like them young, fresh and energetic, without kids, prior marriages, etc. These girls are more fun to be with and easier to meet because they usually have flexible schedules vs someone working 6 days a week and taking care of kids on top of that. I'm not looking for someone broke as fuck, and most centro girls are like that, broke af, can't even afford to pay a water or cellphone bill (heck, some of them don't even own one). The girls I'm meeting have their basic needs covered / paid for, they are not stressed out all the time and I don't have to watch my stuff because they won't steal it.
To date elites, one has to live here full time. I have tried to meet a dentist, an industrial engineer and a real estate broker, but it was difficult to schedule, and my limited time here is precious, so i gave up.
Is what foto did I post that made me look old? Jajajaja.
I have always had an unnatural amount of energy. And Medellin makes me feel younger still. My BMI (body mass index) is in the normal range, as are my cholesterol, blood pressure, and fasting glucose. I take no prescription meds. I am often mistaken for 10-20 years younger than I am. I have all my hair, my teeth, and my belly is flat. I never missed a day of work in my entire career before retiring in 2019 and I have been doing recreational drugs since I was 13 yo. I've noticed none of the chicas care about my age, but they do notice when a guy takes some pride in his appearance, although I am no fashion plate.
And yet, if you read some of the posts here, I am an unhealthy, drug addicted degenerate. Maybe degenerate, but I obviously would match up well to any of my detractors. Amusing how people fill in their knowledge gaps with so much prejudice and bias, but that's just brains being brains! Ostee Out!To be fair, I think most of the general populace would consider you a degenerate. But our community of ISGers wouldn't be so tough.
My target audience is 18-24 yo, and the sweet spot is 22-24 yo, ideally college girls or fresh out of college having a part time job. I like them young, fresh and energetic, without kids, prior marriages, etc. I'm not looking for someone broke as fuck.
I must say I was totally at odds with your rating system. But this, I think even tops that. I know its your business and not mine, but I wonder to myself WTF for? What exactly are you trying to achieve apart from torture yourself?
Reading your posts reminds me of watchcng the Mr Mann character in the Little Britain comedy series. An irritating man who goes in to a shop to ask for the most blindingly obscure stuff every week, for nothing more than to irritate the shopkeeper. Its hilarious. There's about 10 different sketches on YT. Check them out!:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcimw3
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4n10h
To be fair, I think most of the general populace would consider you a degenerate. But our community of ISGers wouldn't be so tough.What's so fair about it?
Perhaps times are changing, and licking assholes and slurping down another guy's Jizz will become in vogue. Maybe I'm missing something here.
Regardless, not my cup of tea either, and there have been other posts about guy's licking girls assholes, but gargling with a Chica's douche water and / or getting the remnants of a hot load from the John before assuming she was barebacked is perhaps new territory here, as I haven't seen any posts of guys doing that, not at least yet.You would be on top of that list. Always amusing how people fill in their gaps of knowledge with personal prejudice with very little basis on facts. She was spotlessly clean, you may not have noticed the last foto when she was irrigating out her va-jay-jay. And someday if I am so inclined I will give you a guys an anatomy lesson about the nerve root distribution that is equally divided by thirds to the clitoris, vagina, and rectum, but that's for another day. Stay in your box where you are the happiest as I am sure you will. I am one of the happiest dudes I know. Like I said, you don't get it and I doubt you ever will. Fortunately, that's not important. You have appointed yourself as one of the site's subject matter experts and I am sure that fills a role for others and mainly, yourself.
It's hard to argue with your analysis here.Jajajaj, read what I wrote to Surfer, could have been either / or to you as well. "Knowledge" will always be one of the greater satires to me on this Web site. Feel the love.
I must say I was totally at odds with your rating system. But this, I think even tops that. I know its your business and not mine, but I wonder to myself WTF for? What exactly are you trying to achieve apart from torture yourself?
Reading your posts reminds me of watchcng the Mr Mann character in the Little Britain comedy series. An irritating man who goes in to a shop to ask for the most blindingly obscure stuff every week, for nothing more than to irritate the shopkeeper. Its hilarious. There's about 10 different sketches on YT. Check them out!:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcimw3
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4n10hWhat am I trying to achieve by being selective? I'm having a good time with the women I like. I guess I will have to put you on ignore list, tired of your dumb comments.
DanielMatt
08-05-22, 06:29
Planed my first trip to Medellin for two weeks next month.
Booked Airbnb in Park Ilaha, right on 10th street -- do you think it is wise to stay in that area? Will I be able to find girls in that area and take to my apartment?
Where do I get sim card? At the airport?
Any advise would be appreciated.
LoveItHere69
08-05-22, 17:15
Planed my first trip to Medellin for two weeks next month.
Booked Airbnb in Park Ilaha, right on 10th street -- do you think it is wise to stay in that area? Will I be able to find girls in that area and take to my apartment?
Where do I get sim card? At the airport?
Any advise would be appreciated.Is that a wise area to stay? We know nothing about your experience. Girls are everywhere. What kind are you looking for?
How on earth would anybody anywhere know if your apartment is girl friendly? You never gave the name of where you are staying. Maybe you should ask the person you are renting from as a good starting point.
SIMS can be found everywhere.
Based on your silly questions you obviously have not done any reading on this forum.
I love the term "interesada". It is essentially equivalent to gold digger. Yes, but this is very tricky. If you use 'interesado / a' with ser, it means gold digger. Say you ask me what I think about the woman you are seeing and I say 'Creo que es interesada. ' I think she is a gold digger. But if you use 'interesado / a' with estar, it translates literally to interested. Thus if my reply to your question about your woman was instead 'Creo que est interesada,' I am saying I think she digs you.
So be careful with 'interesado' and watch your verb.
PepolesBuddy
08-05-22, 17:40
Something random but something that weighed on me last night. The level of poverty here is no joke for example this lady.
This lady didn't have any business due to the heavy rain and was with her 2 kids.
We are all here to have fun. I ask you all to take a step back, observe your surroundings, and support the local small vendors in any way you can. Buying them a beer or a drink while they waiting around on you goes a a long way.
Going to Medellin for the first time next month. I have RTFF about a year's worth of reports and lately continue to follow all posts in this thread. Still, I don't feel prepared. The hotel / AirBnb information is all over the place; it seems hotel / AirBnb is guest friendly on whim so I may have to just book a hotel room for two people and prepare to pay for if I bring two guests at once.
How to keep valuables safe when you bring chicas to the room? I know some hotels provide a safe but by some posts, they don't seem like big enough for a laptop. And if not laptop, what do you use if you need to cast (porno for inspiration? I also read posts about people being mugged so I am worried about walking on the streets with my phone. Without my phone, it would be hard to get around or do anything. Having the phone out and in hand is the obvious thing to do when using it for directions.
Any advice or tips from the seniors on this forum?
RiceRocket99
08-05-22, 19:20
I recently took a fellow Asian BM, Pepolesbuddy, out to explore Aranjuez en la 92. He brought his amiga and I had 2 chicas with me. Had dinner first then took a stroll up and down la 92, it's pretty hilly, but manageable. Found a spot that was popping and partied it up till we shut down the place at around 2:30 am. This was a weekday. We were the only gringos / chinos in the barrio that night. He finally got see how RR99 parties, plays, and prowls in Medellin jajajaja. We went our separate ways after, had a great time, and going to hit up Manrique next! Pepolesbuddy, you're a cool dude and I don't say that often about people I meet on this board or anyone in general. But you need to level up to keep up with me man! Hehehe. I kid of course.
Disclaimer: dont go out in the barrios guys, its too dangerous and the chicas are too hot hehehe.
You should organize barrio tours. It might be a good money maker.
I recently took a fellow Asian BM, Pepolesbuddy, out to explore Aranjuez en la 92. He brought his amiga and I had 2 chicas with me. Had dinner first then took a stroll up and down la 92, it's pretty hilly, but manageable. Found a spot that was popping and partied it up till we shut down the place at around 2:30 am. This was a weekday. We were the only gringos / chinos in the barrio that night. He finally got see how RR99 parties, plays, and prowls in Medellin jajajaja. We went our separate ways after, had a great time, and going to hit up Manrique next! Pepolesbuddy, you're a cool dude and I don't say that often about people I meet on this board or anyone in general. But you need to level up to stay up with me man! Hehehe. I kid of course.
Disclaimer: dont go out in the barrios guys, its too dangerous and the chicas are too hot hehehe.
PSA: The Little One, the smoking hot roommate of Freckle. A mini-Vennie type. Now that I am leaving as this couple's main source of support, she is working Poblado, if you are so inclined. She will be typically detached during sex but you can pose her like a sex doll and she has that natural back arch with her ass down low in doggy position that is not so easy to find.
She won't go cheap. In the fotos, Freckle is the one with the blue hair and on my List. She sends the Little One out to work and Freckle stays home. The Little One's twat is usually a little goopy but as a subject matter expert on STD's, I can tell you she was not infected when I had her. Nothing a panito or two can't handle, jajaja. Her right forearm is tatted up. Her body is better than she looks in the foto standing at the front desk of The Nutti. If you fuck her, tell her Asti said hey, jajajaja.
Happy Hunting. If she's not your type, there is no reason to post about it, unless you need to publically self-validate. No one can stop you, there.
A few guys felt compelled to diss my mongering that gorgeous one-in-ten-thousand preggo maybe because I entitled the post, "Scored One for the Team" and they want to make sure we all know, they are not on that team, jajajaja. I will remember that if it ever comes time to choose sides, jajajajaja. Maybe with a different title they would have sat on their hands.
Who knows and who cares at this point. As I often do, I flogged that dead horse into dog meat. Time to move on to bigger and better things.
Catgirl, my perennial Numero Uno Novia and the reason I am here and alive, is spending my last two nights in Medellin with me. At the moment, she is out at the building site of our city house in San Cristobal. Compared to our build on the mountaintop three hours north of here, this construction is progressing at lightening speed. We are putting in eleven columns on our hilly lot to make a level foundation. Two stories, including a garage. Two bathrooms, I am pushing for three. Six rooms.
I sent lunch out with Catgirl to all the workers, five on site at the moment, mostly her family including her dad and two of her brothers. I am getting a great rate on the labor. Realistically, when I return for my next trip it could be finished but one never know how that goes. The first story we are building custom, the second floor with be prefab.
Ostee or in Espanol, Asti, Out. Feel the Love.
There is a saying in the southern USA, "a hit dog will holler. ".
Back to matters at hand, I am seeing a trend of Venezuelans coming back to Medellin to roost in Plaza Botero. Two of them I've known a couple of years came back after giving birth and realizing that although the economy is improved in Venezuela it hasn't improved enough to support a new mouth to feed. A third one, who was fresh off a four-day bus trip from Caracas, told me they find it easier to get Colombia immigration documents under the "Andino" program. My head is still spinning about the idea of four days on a cramped bus with a months old infant and limited resources to get food.
Sounds like eating the results of another man's cum. And licking her asshole.
Not my cup of Tea.Nothing wrong with eating an El centro puta's asshole, I do it all the time.
NeilGeorge
08-05-22, 21:45
Nothing wrong with eating an El centro puta's asshole, I do it all the time.Sounds like the Hershey Highway of Caca. Enjoy boys!
Nothing wrong with eating an El centro puta's asshole, I do it all the time.Supposedly the GI tracts of the Vennies are loaded with it. If you're not familiar with the world's number one human parasite then work on your University of Google degree and look it up, jajaja. Except I don't call Giardia a parasite anymore. Giardia is so ubiquitous, it is commensal, after you have cleared it once from your body once, in my not so humble opinion. Oh, and BTW, I did not catch my Giardia from licking ass, which is a risk factor. I drank the mountain stream water up at our casa build on the mountaintop.
I am typically ten steps ahead of my detractors, I simply don't bother to take the time to explain it to them, usually. I usually have better and more important things to do but sometimes they can use the enlightenment, although many of them if not most are unteachable. Being immune to Giarda and using Listerine like I do before and after all my oral sexual encounters basically makes me 99.9% safe, if not higher. A helluva lot safer than what most guys here are doing.
Also, if the knuckleheads here bothered to read between the lines, clearly our young preggo example is not your run-of-the-mill El Centro puta, unless you go by Mr. E's definition. She is a young, fresh, inexperienced mother desperate for cash and very green to the ways of selling her wet holes. Certainly lower risk than the weathered cheapest grade putas you find hanging out in front of the church, where some choose to monger, including me depending on the day and the mood.
I wonder is she delivered yet? She did not show up for our follow-up meeting yesterday, that she seemed very eager to do after our first tryst. Yesterday, was in fact her due date. But on the average, first time mom's or "primagravidas" typically go over about a week from their expected due date, mainly because nothing in their birthing tract has ever been stretched out before, or at least that's the theory. But I am sure most of you knew that already, right?
My schedule is crazy. I am booking the girls from my List and more every one and a half hours and telling them if they don't show up on time they will lose their spot. Some of them are even coming to my hotel room while Catgirl is here, she doesn't mind if I fuck certain ones in front of her, for example Scarlet with whom we shared my best three-way of all time, this trip.
I decided to gift GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-to-Girl) 250 mil COP for the excellent service she gave me at least 4 days out of each week, and below FMV (Fair Market Value). I was feeling a little chintzy with that amount but she is thrilled. I will meet her early tomorrow morning at Ground Zero for a 30 minute quickie and that.
I have two bombillos and two different girls, Pumpkin and Scarlet, are thrilled to be getting those, jajajajaja.
I love you guys, even when you misbehave.
Ostee Out.
Absolutely nothing wrong with it any more than there is something wrong with brussels sprouts; I won't eat either of them.
Nothing wrong with eating an El centro puta's asshole, I do it all the time.
Do you reckon the Mercedes was all paid up and owned outright?And do you reckon that the girl in the Mercedes paid for everything, or did she latch onto his wallet like a leech?
I recently took a fellow Asian BM, Pepolesbuddy, out to explore Aranjuez en la 92. He brought his amiga and I had 2 chicas with me. Had dinner first then took a stroll up and down la 92, it's pretty hilly, but manageable. Found a spot that was popping and partied it up till we shut down the place at around 2:30 am. This was a weekday. We were the only gringos / chinos in the barrio that night. He finally got see how RR99 parties, plays, and prowls in Medellin jajajaja. We went our separate ways after, had a great time, and going to hit up Manrique next! Pepolesbuddy, you're a cool dude and I don't say that often about people I meet on this board or anyone in general. But you need to level up to keep up with me man! Hehehe. I kid of course.
Disclaimer: dont go out in the barrios guys, its too dangerous and the chicas are too hot hehehe.To be fair, you speak Spanish, know the city well, and sound like you're pretty street-wise. The typical USA Or Europe hobbyist would indeed be ill-advised to do what you did.
Nothing wrong with eating an El centro puta's asshole, I do it all the time.If you think about it, that maybe the cleanest part.
Hello Gents,
Anyone knows what are the best rate ATMs to pull money from? Arriving tomorrow and my friends down there tell me that the exchange places have the lousiest rates at the moment. Any intel is appreciated!!
If you think about it, that maybe the cleanest part.When you cross-colonize with normal gut flora from other people, there is a benefit to your immune system. As I have posted before, shit pills are often prescribed by physicians in the United States as first line treatment for recurrent clostridum difficile infections. The Chinese have been making shit soup as a medical treatment for 2000 years, but I would probably recommend the pills as being a little easier to swallow, jajajaja.
Hello Gents,
Anyone knows what are the best rate ATMs to pull money from? Arriving tomorrow and my friends down there tell me that the exchange places have the lousiest rates at the moment. Any intel is appreciated!!With all due respect this topic has been discussed, analyzed, parsed a hundred different times. Do a search for Visa Exchange Rate.
Something random but something that weighed on me last night. The level of poverty here is no joke for example this lady.
This lady didn't have any business due to the heavy rain and was with her 2 kids.
We are all here to have fun. I ask you all to take a step back, observe your surroundings, and support the local small vendors in any way you can. Buying them a beer or a drink while they waiting around on you goes a a long way.With all the talk here about getting conned, ripped off, fooled, robbed, etc. I still find the Colombian people to be some of the most warm, loving, decent, special human beings on the planet, especially here in Medellin. My reference point? All seven continents, mi amigos.
I am getting choked up and emotional. Catgirl is in my bed naked, Scarlet is on her way over for a trio, and for of you who follow me and pay attention, remember, they are my all-time greatest trio. Catgirl just dropped a huge tab on me tonight at the "Home Depot" here for our casa build in Medellin, and if you think that won't fuel the fires, well, think again. Remember, in Medellin, money is love! Jajajaja. I am pretty sure I will post again and again before leaving, but we are definitely in the home stretch now. I feel strong. I am leaving in a blaze of fucking glory.
Hello Gents,
Anyone knows what are the best rate ATMs to pull money from? Arriving tomorrow and my friends down there tell me that the exchange places have the lousiest rates at the moment. Any intel is appreciated!!For me they are all the same, exactly the same. My home bank determines the exchange rate. The difference is whether they charge an ATM fee at the bank there that I am withdrawing the money from.
What am I trying to achieve by being selective? I'm having a good time with the women I like. I guess I will have to put you on ignore list, tired of your dumb comments.You should forget about Santa Fe, clubs, casas, the street. I think what you need to plan your trips around is this:
https://concursos-de-belleza.fandom.com/es/wiki/Miss_Mundo_Colombia_2022
Just turn up at the regioanl events with your tape measure and you will have a blast.
Hello Gents,
Anyone knows what are the best rate ATMs to pull money from? Arriving tomorrow and my friends down there tell me that the exchange places have the lousiest rates at the moment. Any intel is appreciated!!Decline the conversion rate at the ATM's. Unless you consider giving free money to foreign banks a non-deductible, charitable donation, decline the conversion rate, which was quite high today at 7. 1 percent. I don't think I have ever seen it higher than that but who knows.
Catgirl my perennial Number One Novia for almost three years on the left, and Scarlet, working her way hard back into her Number Two position she coveted for so long (two years?) waiting for domicilio (food delivery service) and then it arrived as I typed this!
I can't think of a better way to spend my last night. Physically, the difference between the dark, muscular, athletic, Paisa that is Catgirl, and the delicate, pale, soft, half-Mexicana, half-Colombiana that is Scarlet, is a beautiful contrast and two good examples of why I don't box myself in with certain "types" of chicas. I love 'them all!
Emotionally, well, the amount of love that fills the room with these two is off the charts.
To be fair, you speak Spanish, know the city well, and sound like you're pretty street-wise. The typical USA Or Europe hobbyist would indeed be ill-advised to do what you did.Even he can run out of luck in a flash and without notice. Manrique, Bello, whatever, they damn sure know he isn't a local. He's also cocky and partying heavy. At least he's been warned.
And do you reckon that the girl in the Mercedes paid for everything, or did she latch onto his wallet like a leech?I have a friend who owns an AMG C63 she bought new. She is on dating sites. She even paid US $ 10 K to join some dating service. She has no problem getting dates. The problem she has is finding someone better than her financially. She is scared of marriage too. One thing I know is she would not date a monger. To me, there is no question one can find quality woman on dating site. The question from me is, will these girls date a monger when told the truth.
.... Two stories, including a garage. Two bathrooms, I am pushing for three. Six rooms.....How about a Jacuzzi?
...I know some hotels provide a safe but by some posts, they don't seem like big enough for a laptop. And if not laptop, what do you use if you need to cast (porno for inspiration? ...I use a laptop cable lock. But the airport security always checks my carry on because they don't know what the cable is. The TV can hookup streaming stick like roku and you can just use TV for that.
Before I forget, centro rates are innocent bystanders in these discussion so I don't know why you guys keep bashing the girls.
... Saying La Isla is charging $5 a beer is not a threat to you. Exito is not going to charge those prices and bashing guys who drink beer at La Isla or take out women from there is nuts...My original post is not a response to the poster. Use your analogy, from my point of view, I think the poster did not get the same beer. It is not as good for most people because it is missing an ingredient, BBBJ in this case. He said the beer is good but did notice the missing ingredient.
It is overpriced based on the context, he got the price reduced from 1. 3 to 1. That makes me think it is overpriced a lot to start with. How do you know 1 M is not overpriced? If I were doing it, I would get a table with the girls, and fuck 2 or 3 girls one by one on site until 4 and go to Paradise with them later or take them back to the hotel after closing time. Also my original response is not about the price, it is about the lack of service/BBBJ.
It's hard for us to view monetary value the same way the locals do. To provide a context, the maid that cleans my place charge less than 100 mil for a whole day's work and most her customers are gringos.
Do you see the difference in approach here?
... I told her 100 mil COP for an hour, no restrictions, no condoms. She hesitated for a few seconds then accepted.....
.... They quoted 1. 3 million each for all night I got them down to 1 m each. ....Great session even though no BBBJ....I was just at a BBQ street food stand. I saw a homeless man standing there looking at the food, and gesturing to other locals, I guess, to buy the BBQ for him. None responded so I asked him what he wanted and paid for it. I would do the same even if there were 10 homeless men there because it is cheap and I have the freedom to help. I am pretty sure I won't do the same so freely at a high-end restaurant.
Yes, but this is very tricky. If you use 'interesado / a' with ser, it means gold digger. Say you ask me what I think about the woman you are seeing and I say 'Creo que es interesada. ' I think she is a gold digger. But if you use 'interesado / a' with estar, it translates literally to interested. Thus if my reply to your question about your woman was instead 'Creo que est interesada,' I am saying I think she digs you.
So be careful with 'interesado' and watch your verb.Great stuff.
How about a Jacuzzi?In a Strata 1-2 neighborhood. Or am I overthinking it?
I have a friend who owns an AMG C63 she bought new. She is on dating sites. She even paid US $ 10 K to join some dating service. She has no problem getting dates. The problem she has is finding someone better than her financially. She is scared of marriage too. One thing I know is she would not date a monger. To me, there is no question one can find quality woman on dating site. The question from me is, will these girls date a monger when told the truth.And I believe the truth must be told.
Yes, but this is very tricky. If you use 'interesado / a' with ser, it means gold digger. Say you ask me what I think about the woman you are seeing and I say 'Creo que es interesada. ' I think she is a gold digger. But if you use 'interesado / a' with estar, it translates literally to interested. Thus if my reply to your question about your woman was instead 'Creo que est interesada,' I am saying I think she digs you.
So be careful with 'interesado' and watch your verb.Very nice to see the distinction between "ser interesado / a" and "estar interesado / a" explained. Differences when using "ser" versus "estar" and how that changes the meaning of the other verb that is used with it are something we don't have in English and lead to a lot of miscommunication for people trying to learn Spanish.
I have a friend who owns an AMG C63 she bought new. She is on dating sites. She even paid US $ 10 K to join some dating service. She has no problem getting dates. The problem she has is finding someone better than her financially. She is scared of marriage too. One thing I know is she would not date a monger. To me, there is no question one can find quality woman on dating site. The question from me is, will these girls date a monger when told the truth.Certainly you can find successful woman on dating sites, one's who are looking for dates or a committed relationship. SA isn't a dating site.
I've found that women (who aren't selling sex) tend to be strongly opposed to prostitution and dislike men who seek it out.
For me they are all the same, exactly the same. My home bank determines the exchange rate. The difference is whether they charge an ATM fee at the bank there that I am withdrawing the money from.I understand it the exchange rate is determined by the card issuer (I. E. Typically Visa, Mastercard for Americans), not the bank. As long as you go where transaction fees are lowest (or use Schwab, CapitalOne) and decline the conversion fee they should all end up nearly the same on a given day.
Decline the conversion rate at the ATM's. Unless you consider giving free money to foreign banks a non-deductible, charitable donation, decline the conversion rate, which was quite high today at 7. 1 percent. I don't think I have ever seen it higher than that but who knows.Yeah, the banks got me the first trip in Latin America. It's so confusing that it makes you think that if you don't accept, then you are not getting pesos. I have learned from my mistakes and now always decline the conversion and still get my pesos as you noted.
I understand it the exchange rate is determined by the card issuer (I. E. Typically Visa, Mastercard for Americans), not the bank. As long as you go where transaction fees are lowest (or use Schwab, CapitalOne) and decline the conversion fee they should all end up nearly the same on a given day.Zeos1 is from Canada. I think their banking system is different than in the US. You are correct about cards issued by US banks.
Very nice to see the distinction between "ser interesado / a" and "estar interesado / a" explained. Differences when using "ser" versus "estar" and how that changes the meaning of the other verb that is used with it are something we don't have in English and lead to a lot of miscommunication for people trying to learn Spanish.Actually it changes the meaning of the adjective. Some others: Estoy listo = I'm ready. Soy listo = I'm smart or clever. Estoy enfermo = I'm sick like I have a cold. Soy enfermo = I have a chronic disease or am an invalid. La manzana es verde = this is a green apple like a Granny Smith. La manzana está verde = the apple is not ripe.
Several times I have heard gringos blow it by asking the woman if she's interested and using ser instead of estar.
ChuchoLoco
08-06-22, 16:27
When you cross-colonize with normal gut flora from other people, there is a benefit to your immune system. As I have posted before, shit pills are often prescribed by physicians in the United States as first line treatment for recurrent clostridum difficile infections. The Chinese have been making shit soup as a medical treatment for 2000 years, but I would probably recommend the pills as being a little easier to swallow, jajajaja.All I know is that there is a "bug" called giardia that you can get from rimming and it is not fun. Of course there is a med or two to get rid of it but for some it can be tough to get rid of. Diarrhea like you have never had. You can also get it if you have a scratch and wade in water with the bug which is common. I had it once from walking in a stream in Costa Rica countryside. Didn't rim that vacation, hahaha. At least I don't remember doing so.
What is Revolut?Multi-currency online bank account with very good exchange rates, popular among European travelers.
ChuchoLoco
08-06-22, 18:06
All I know is that there is a "bug" called giardia that you can get from rimming and it is not fun. Of course there is a med or two to get rid of it but for some it can be tough to get rid of. Diarrhea like you have never had. You can also get it if you have a scratch and wade in water with the bug which is common. I had it once from walking in a stream in Costa Rica countryside. Didn't rim that vacation, hahaha. At least I don't remember doing so.I wrote this before Ostee post regarding same was posted. Just be careful to all drinking or wading in water even in swimming pools where the little ones may dump. It's a very common stomach issue especially among country people and poorer, I guess Venezuelans too.
To be fair, you speak Spanish, know the city well, and sound like you're pretty street-wise. The typical USA Or Europe hobbyist would indeed be ill-advised to do what you did.I know some folks here are terrified by the thought of stepping outside their comfort zone, but as far as I am aware Aranjuez does not have a bad rep, and the Zona Rosa area is really small. I would be very surpised to hear of anyone getting in trouble there, unless they do some real dumb stuff.
All I know is that there is a "bug" called giardia that you can get from rimming and it is not fun. Of course there is a med or two to get rid of it but for some it can be tough to get rid of. Diarrhea like you have never had. You can also get it if you have a scratch and wade in water with the bug which is common. I had it once from walking in a stream in Costa Rica countryside. Didn't rim that vacation, hahaha. At least I don't remember doing so.Got it from drinking mountain stream water. Posted about it here this trip, somewhere. I consider myself immune.
Arrived today at 2 pm but it wasnt until 4 pm that I was able to clear customs! The airport was crowded! We had to disembark via ladders outside the terminal. Climate is great, around 21 - 22 C. Will start pinging contacts after my initial milking by my driver girl. Will keep reporting later, have to stock on food supplies, I got a duo pack of JW Doubleblack at the airport for about 95-96 USD.
About atms, I think I hit the jackpot with my card, a Payoneer MC, since it also has GBP, the exchange rate is 4800 pesos per 1 GBP!! I got this rate in the Bancolombia ATM at the near Carrulla supermarket.
We are on the same page.
And do you reckon that the girl in the Mercedes paid for everything, or did she latch onto his wallet like a leech?
I would use the word "chapiadora" to convey this meaning in simple direct language. That said, it's worthwhile to note that simple and direct are not the Colombian way. Anyway, "tu eres una chapiadora" will be understood by anyone in Latin America and most people in Spain, especially those who are 40 and younger and have been exposed to reggaeton.
Very nice to see the distinction between "ser interesado / a" and "estar interesado / a" explained. Differences when using "ser" versus "estar" and how that changes the meaning of the other verb that is used with it are something we don't have in English and lead to a lot of miscommunication for people trying to learn Spanish.
RiceRocket99
08-07-22, 01:51
I haven't heard of a gringo getting robbed or scoped in Manrique or Aranjuez, but Poblado and Laureles you hear those stories on the weekly. Thieves don't go to the barrios to rob gringos! They go to gringoland looking for dumb and drunk gringos to scope and rob duh. They see me in a barrio they think I'm a poor motherfucking chino jajaja. I'm not worth their time and energy hehe. Paisas party heavy in general, and I'm a chino paisa hasta la chimba hpta! Well, I don't think I'm cocky, I just report my experiences and provide my personal opinions. I do get sarcastic on my posts, that's just for fun and games. Anyways, enjoy the Feria de Flores everybody!
Remember this: the barrios are dangerous, you’re much safer in Poblado and Laureles where your chances of getting scoped or robbed is near imposible :)
Even he can run out of luck in a flash and without notice. Manrique, Bello, whatever, they damn sure know he isn't a local. He's also cocky and partying heavy. At least he's been warned.
You provided one of several other reasons for the familiar "employees must wash hands before returning to work" signs in washrooms.
All I know is that there is a "bug" called giardia that you can get from rimming and it is not fun. Of course there is a med or two to get rid of it but for some it can be tough to get rid of. Diarrhea like you have never had. You can also get it if you have a scratch and wade in water with the bug which is common. I had it once from walking in a stream in Costa Rica countryside. Didn't rim that vacation, hahaha. At least I don't remember doing so.
I can't think of a better way to spend my last night. PWell sounds like your going to be going into withdrawal upon exiting Colombia.
What are you going to do while your away?
I remember one of our posters, Sjobs, who was stuck outside Colombia during the Pandemic came up with all kinds of stories of how he would smuggle himself into Colombia when it was closed by bribing Immigration officials if necessary, and even sneaking in from Venezuela.
All total fiction of course, but the posts where quite entertaining being so unbelievable.
And with you being a high wire act, with no balancing beam, or a safety net below, it surprising that you didn't get jacked up on this trip.
Safe travels!
JackTaggart
08-07-22, 03:43
I will start this combo later this week and will give it a try. I'll have almost 2 months to try it in a sort of lab / controlled environment. I'll report back in a few weeks. I will need this when I visit Medellin for the first time in September.Combo works! Amazon had everything pretty cheap. In my lab controlled.... Ahem solo environment. I was able to get AM and PM samples to test the progress every day. After about 3 weeks it has been a noticeably consistent increase in fluid. Now I just need a lab assistant when I get back to Colombia to validate everything. I will need about 20-30 peers to review my study to be sure.
It may or may not be worth continuing, but I will stay on it a while.
The odds are grossly tilted toward crimes against gringos happening in the Poblado-Laureles-Sabaneta triangle. Outside that zone, it's of course much less likely because there are so much fewer gringos in the line of fire by comparison.
I haven't heard of a gringo getting robbed or scoped in Manrique or Aranjuez, but Poblado and Laureles you hear those stories on the weekly. Thieves don't go to the barrios to rob gringos! They go to gringoland looking for dumb and drunk gringos to scope and rob duh. They see me in a barrio they think I'm a poor motherfucking chino jajaja. I'm not worth their time and energy hehe. Paisas party heavy in general, and I'm a chino paisa hasta la chimba hpta! Well, I don't think I'm cocky, I just report my experiences and provide my personal opinions. I do get sarcastic on my posts, that's just for fun and games. Anyways, enjoy the Feria de Flores everybody!
Remember this: the barrios are dangerous, youre much safer in Poblado and Laureles where your chances of getting scoped or robbed is near imposible :)
Thanks, I think I remember getting a promotional offer to open an account but I chickened out because there was no FDIC insurance and they had a lot of crypto investments.
Multi-currency online bank account with very good exchange rates, popular among European travelers.
Arrived today at 2 pm but it wasnt until 4 pm that I was able to clear customs! The airport was crowded! We had to disembark via ladders outside the terminal. Climate is great, around 21 - 22 C. Will start pinging contacts after my initial milking by my driver girl. Will keep reporting later, have to stock on food supplies, I got a duo pack of JW Doubleblack at the airport for about 95-96 USD.
About atms, I think I hit the jackpot with my card, a Payoneer MC, since it also has GBP, the exchange rate is 4800 pesos per 1 GBP!! I got this rate in the Bancolombia ATM at the near Carrulla supermarket.Well, congratulations!! The Visa Exchange rate for this weekend (Saturday-Sunday-Monday) is 5,122 Colombian pesos per 1 GB Pound. Did you accept the bank's assured / guaranteed rate? That might be accounting for the difference. What was that old saying. "Reading the forum has its benefits" . Something like that.
I haven't heard of a gringo getting robbed or scoped in Manrique or Aranjuez, but Poblado and Laureles you hear those stories on the weekly. Thieves don't go to the barrios to rob gringos! They go to gringoland looking for dumb and drunk gringos to scope and rob duh. They see me in a barrio they think I'm a poor motherfucking chino jajaja. I'm not worth their time and energy hehe. Paisas party heavy in general, and I'm a chino paisa hasta la chimba hpta! Well, I don't think I'm cocky, I just report my experiences and provide my personal opinions. I do get sarcastic on my posts, that's just for fun and games. Anyways, enjoy the Feria de Flores everybody!
Remember this: the barrios are dangerous, youre much safer in Poblado and Laureles where your chances of getting scoped or robbed is near imposible :)This is not only about safety. Poblado and Laureles got the best restaurants, bars and nightlife. Best hotels and apartments. Best cinemas and shopping malls. It makes no sense to go across the whole city to one of those barrios, let alone stay there, especially if a monger doesn't speak Spanish. I'm not new to MDE, but can't imagine myself partying in Aranjuez, why would I go there if I could party in Provenza and have fun? You need to make a disclaimer here. You speak Spanish and you bought an apartment (in Bello, if I'm not mistaken? This means you are a local mf now, and live there for extended periods of time. The truth is, very few of us can replicate what you, and Osteoknot, for example, are doing (not that we all want to do the same though).
P.S. you never heard of a gringo getting robbed or scoped in Manrique or Aranjuez because very few gringos, if any at all, ever showed up there. Your sample is ridiculously small lol
RiceRocket99
08-07-22, 06:02
I totally agree with what you said 100%. I wasn't trying to promote the barrios. I do end the posts with don’t come out there right hehe. Im just putting different and unique experiences out there. I love partying up in la 70 and 33 in Laureles and I also like to wine and dine in Provenza. I recently went to eat at Don Diablo Steakhouse and drank tequila bottles (party of 6) in Dos Santos Cantina. I enjoyed both places, it's just that I want to post stuff on here that's not the typical gringo spots and venues. Yes, I agree I should put some disclaimers on my posts, but then it'll make me come off as cocky hehe. Im sure there are some mongers out there that enjoy reading my barrio posts, and thats enough reason for me to write, but I'll go back to my Bello bubble.
This is not only about safety. Poblado and Laureles got the best restaurants, bars and nightlife. Best hotels and apartments. Best cinemas and shopping malls. It makes no sense to go across the whole city to one of those barrios, let alone stay there, especially if a monger doesn't speak Spanish. I'm not new to MDE, but can't imagine myself partying in Aranjuez, why would I go there if I could party in Provenza and have fun? You need to make a disclaimer here. You speak Spanish and you bought an apartment (in Bello, if I'm not mistaken? This means you are a local mf now, and live there for extended periods of time. The truth is, very few of us can replicate what you, and Osteoknot, for example, are doing (not that we all want to do the same though).
P.S. you never heard of a gringo getting robbed or scoped in Manrique or Aranjuez because very few gringos, if any at all, ever showed up there. Your sample is ridiculously small lol
Frank Lucas
08-07-22, 07:02
I totally agree with what you said 100%. I wasn't trying to promote the barrios. I do end the posts with dont come out there right hehe. Im just putting different and unique experiences out there. I love partying up in la 70 and 33 in Laureles and I also like to wine and dine in Provenza. I recently went to eat at Don Diablo Steakhouse and drank tequila bottles (party of 6) in Dos Santos Cantina. I enjoyed both places, it's just that I want to post stuff on here that's not the typical gringo spots and venues. Yes, I agree I should put some disclaimers on my posts, but then it'll make me come off as cocky hehe. Im sure there are some mongers out there that enjoy reading my barrio posts, and thats enough reason for me to write, but I'll go back to my Bello bubble.Please keep up the barrio info, just because some others can't handle the area or don't want to does not mean we all should be deprived. Everyone is always talking about Centro so what is the big deal? I love Bello.
Besides it beats the hell out of reading 44 posts on the peso exchange rate, DAMN.
BbqMushrooms
08-07-22, 09:49
The lower class makes up 80% of the general population. The wealthier class would obviously control more of the money.
If you're into social anthropology, how about the Medellin saying, "When a woman cheats on you, it's with another woman". Just thought I'd throw that in there for no particular reason other than human interest.What's this phrase? I'm trying to think of the implication, but all I can come up with is women in Medellin are lesbians and are only with men as providers?
I totally agree with what you said 100%. I wasn't trying to promote the barrios. I do end the posts with dont come out there right hehe. Im just putting different and unique experiences out there. I love partying up in la 70 and 33 in Laureles and I also like to wine and dine in Provenza. I recently went to eat at Don Diablo Steakhouse and drank tequila bottles (party of 6) in Dos Santos Cantina. I enjoyed both places, it's just that I want to post stuff on here that's not the typical gringo spots and venues. Yes, I agree I should put some disclaimers on my posts, but then it'll make me come off as cocky hehe. Im sure there are some mongers out there that enjoy reading my barrio posts, and thats enough reason for me to write, but I'll go back to my Bello bubble.Any comments around limiting your input because it's different are crazy. If no one pushed the envelope a bit and shared, this thread would have 14 years of just discussing Poblado hotels, the girls in Lleras, and the best burger joint endlessly. If Someone was looking at this site for the first time, I'm pretty sure they'the be able to determine that Poblado is the "safest" (using that word in terms of being most Americanized and easy to understand / manage), Laureles is close behind, and El Centro is a bit more for the adventuress. And that. Your post here and there is about an outlier area not for the uninitiated. That is, If they are RTFf thoroughly. And not going back two pages.
I admire the way you and Osteo go about your business. It's not necessarily for me, but you are "doing you" and enjoying life. Something I need to be better at. Whenever I see a post from you, I perk up a bit in a similar way that I did with Slapshot (although you two are on completely different ends of the way you go about things).
All I know is that there is a "bug" called giardia that you can get from rimming and it is not fun. Of course there is a med or two to get rid of it but for some it can be tough to get rid of. Diarrhea like you have never had. You can also get it if you have a scratch and wade in water with the bug which is common. I had it once from walking in a stream in Costa Rica countryside. Didn't rim that vacation, hahaha. At least I don't remember doing so.Also called "beaver fever" in mountain areas of US and Canada. Beavers in your source water for drinking water spread it, and normal municipal chlorination does not always kill it. Many tourists become familiar with it. I'm sure there are many other animal vectors as it is common all over the world. And rimming would be a very effective way to get it from someone who carries it. Which is probably the majority of the earth's human population.
That makes sense following the rules about ser / estar. Ser describes permanent qualities that people have, vs. Estar describing more impermanent states. I tend to use it most as descriptor "no me gusta las mujeres interesadas" (I don't like gold-digging women). Again I wouldn't recommend accusing someone of being "interesada" directly in most circumstances. It's a strong term that can be taken as an insult and get you in a fight. But you can plant the idea in their head that you are on guard for "interesadas" throughout the course of your conversation. I like to do this type of thing because it conditions their behavior and set expectations given the strong negative connotation of the term and the large amounts of pride most of these chicas have.
Yes, but this is very tricky. If you use 'interesado / a' with ser, it means gold digger. Say you ask me what I think about the woman you are seeing and I say 'Creo que es interesada. ' I think she is a gold digger. But if you use 'interesado / a' with estar, it translates literally to interested. Thus if my reply to your question about your woman was instead 'Creo que est interesada,' I am saying I think she digs you.
So be careful with 'interesado' and watch your verb.
Litmus Smut
08-07-22, 15:43
Can someone outline what La Isla is like? I'm mixing it up with other strip clubs.
Is there an entrance fee? Cost of a girl is around 300 K pesos? Is there a room fee? Price for a beer?
This is not only about safety. Poblado and Laureles got the best restaurants, bars and nightlife. Best hotels and apartments. Best cinemas and shopping malls. It makes no sense to go across the whole city to one of those barrios...Haha. MB has got his tape measure out again. The Barrios are noot even marked on it so he is confused, poor chap.
Finally sessioned with el Centro SW.
I rehearsed my Spanish phrases and made the lap around 11:30 but I didn't see any chica sweet enough. I wasn't in 'sitting and waiting' mood so decided to take a 10 min stroll to see my casa regular for a sure thing. Had a great time for an hour (broke the bed jaja). She was disappointed I'm saving my leche for later though.
Lap though el Centro. Saw couple prospects. Second lap, some of the girls disappeared already. As I wait on the red light, I see one of the chicas I liked standing on the corner right across the street. Long legged cutie in pink yoga panties with camel-toe showing and nice pair of breasts. I have some time to observe. Green light and I approach. Exchanged the pleasantries and asked her how old she is. 20. OK. Tienes cedula? Si. Bueno, cuanto cuesta? Cuanto tiempo? Cuarenta minutos. How much will you give me? I say cuarenta mil, she says cinquenta. I pause, considering whether accept such an outrageous price. Oral sin condon? I ask still 'undecided'. Si amor. OK, vamos.
She leads me to a hotel nearby. Very clean lobby area and generally nice surroundings compared to the outside. I give 20 mil to the reception lady and get 10 and some change back.
Decent room. She asks for money. No, mas tarde, amor.
We chat a bit. She says she's from Venezuela (light skinned though). She didn't bother to remove her bra but I didn't mind at all, as her titties sticking out looked hot and it was nice change from completely naked chicas. Passable BBJ. She's relatively tight. Standard positions and I stop short of finish, as the day was still young. Not a great fuck, not bad, decent. I did like her body and the session got heated couple times but there was some detachment too and at the end a little cold. Partially it can be blamed on a short interval between Hola and the penetration I guess, since there wasn't much of the rapport building.
I leave the hotel and head out of the area. A young SW with great tits and nipples showing through passes by, she's going somewhere briskly with a purposeful look. I continue walking but after 15 seconds decide I cannot pass on this opportunity, do the 180 and go look for her. I can't find her anywhere. Damn. Maybe she stepped inside somewhere. Well, another time. As I changed directions now, I see the girl I just sessioned with standing back on the coroner. We exchange waves and faint smiles and I move on.
After a meal I decide head to Taberna Avenida as it's been a long time since my last visit.
Passing though Botero Plaza, a petite young-looking SW starts waving and talking to me. She wanted some money I believe. No hablo mucho espanol amor. Tienes cedula? Bunch of Spanish worlds back. I guess the gist was: no or not on me. Well. Tienes whatsapp? No, fayboo. I hand over the phone, she finds herself and sends a friend request. I move on. Sent her a message later asking how old she is. Checking FB info now it says she's 19 and from Dominican Republic. I'll see if she can produce some kind of document.
Skanky-dressed pregnant girl with cute face seats nearby me in Taberna Avenida. I smile and ask "which month? Consternation. She ain't pregnant, just fat LOL. We laugh it off and I buy her a drink. I see some other 'pregnant' girls on the stage and ponder, how come they have such pumped bellies and stomachs but aren't particularly fat in the hips or even have much of that jiggly fat. I guess they're stuffing themselves, stretching the stomachs, their young bodies can still adapt easily and just balloon out. Oh well. The line-up in Taberna is simply horrible so I'm heading out. There is one cute and smiley chica eyeing me but a little too thick for my taste today, I take the number on the way out.
I finish my night in Nueva Avenida, have a heated session with one of the chicas there.
A lot of these centro SWs have kind of stern / cold expression on their faces, especially the ones standing alone. Others seem bored. If I don't feel like bringing the fun that day and just want to unwind, then casa / strip club is probably better place (for essentially the same price) since most of the chicas will have the fun attitude from the get-go, are flirty, joking and generally relaxed. Maybe the SWs that 'kss kss' and 'hola amor' me can have good attitude / service, although at the first glance couple of them appeared somewhat aggressive.
I did see several hot chicas in there though so will definitely come back for more try-outs.
Can someone outline what La Isla is like? I'm mixing it up with other strip clubs.
Is there an entrance fee? Cost of a girl is around 300 K pesos? Is there a room fee? Price for a beer?There are a few recent reports that you can search. I can't tell you the price because it seems to have increased again so my info is out of date from just a few months ago. The girl will cost more than that. Expect that you may need to pay a large tip if you can find one that will do BBBJ. The room fee has always been included if it has not changed. I think as the way it is setup now, you can pay a cover and don't buy drink. There used to be a price list behind the bar but I didn't notice it after remodel. I remember there is a barcode at the bar that you can scan to view menu on your phone but I didn't scan it.
Here is a suggestion, to avoid a dud, have a make out session in the club area before going to the room if possible. This is what I used to do in La Isla, and what many mongers are doing in clubs in Brazil which cost much more than La Isla. From a value point of view, you want to fuck one that you don't see often elsewhere, pay whatever you can to get what you want if that is the case but don't overpay what you can easily get elsewhere.
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