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PepolesBuddy
08-07-22, 17:48
Even he can run out of luck in a flash and without notice. Manrique, Bello, whatever, they damn sure know he isn't a local. He's also cocky and partying heavy. At least he's been warned.What you all fail to realize is. Rice rocket has been here for 10+ years. He's well established, has his contacts all over medallo. He doesn't party or just take out one girl like most guys. When he parties he parties with groups of chicas that he's known for 4+ years that are locals to whatever barrios he's at. And these ain't just regular chicas. These chicas are bad ass bandidas that have no shame in who they are or slashing a mother fucker if you cross them the wrong way.

He's also not just about getting laid and partying. He takes time to build friendships / relationships / contacts over the years. He's so well established now that his friends throws girls at him to where he does not have to hunt for desconocidas or random girls unlike the rest of us.

So yes he can afford to party in the barrios with a bunch of chicas in their hood. They treat him like he's part of their hood and he's one of them. This guy lives like a king at the fraction of the cost we all pay for logistics / girls etc and these barrio girls he's with are way better than central sw.

Respect the king. Yo better check yourselves before you wreck yourselves. A dick in yo ass is bad for your health-ice cube.

Long live the king! Long live Rice Rocket and his crew of baddies bad ass bitches!

Maelstrom
08-07-22, 18:05
I have never done a session with sites like Paisasprepagos but I've seen alot advertise that they have their own place in Laureles. Has anyone here had the courage to do a session at the prepago's place?

John Clayton
08-07-22, 18:51
...sites like Paisasprepagos...Do you have a link?

Combo
08-07-22, 19:34
This is not only about safety. Poblado and Laureles got the best restaurants, bars and nightlife. Best hotels and apartments. Best cinemas and shopping malls. It makes no sense to go across the whole city to one of those barrios, let alone stay there, especially if a monger doesn't speak Spanish. I'm not new to MDE, but can't imagine myself partying in Aranjuez, why would I go there if I could party in Provenza and have fun? You need to make a disclaimer here. You speak Spanish and you bought an apartment (in Bello, if I'm not mistaken? This means you are a local mf now, and live there for extended periods of time. The truth is, very few of us can replicate what you, and Osteoknot, for example, are doing (not that we all want to do the same though).

P.S. you never heard of a gringo getting robbed or scoped in Manrique or Aranjuez because very few gringos, if any at all, ever showed up there. Your sample is ridiculously small lolExcellent post. You hear about gringos getting mugged or scoped in poblado because that's where the vast majority go. Very very few tourists go to Aranjuez, Manrique, etc. Rice Rocket has a great system down and I enjoy his posts, but I wouldn't recommend most of my fellow hobbyists to do the same. If you speak Spanish and live there and are street wise that's a different thing.

Combo
08-07-22, 19:40
Also called "beaver fever" in mountain areas of US and Canada. Beavers in your source water for drinking water spread it, and normal municipal chlorination does not always kill it. Many tourists become familiar with it. I'm sure there are many other animal vectors as it is common all over the world. And rimming would be a very effective way to get it from someone who carries it. Which is probably the majority of the earth's human population.I've had Beaver fever since about 9 years old.

Mojo Bandit
08-07-22, 19:43
Do you have a link?


I have never done a session with sites like Paisasprepagos but I've seen alot advertise that they have their own place in Laureles. Has anyone here had the courage to do a session at the prepago's place?I wonder if Maelstrom is not thinking of the Medellin section of the escort site "pasion" where at the top it says Paisas Prepago and that on the website when it shows the chicas general location that he thinks that this is the location of a place where all the chicas with that place name label, I think they show the location because the chicas do in-call at their apartment if I am not mistaken.

https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/medellin

I might be wrong and he has found some site that I am not aware of but I wonder if this is the case?

MiamiBoy1
08-07-22, 19:45
Haha. MB has got his tape measure out again. The Barrios are noot even marked on it so he is confused, poor chap.Another useless comment of yours. Good job!

JustTK
08-07-22, 20:13
Another useless comment of yours. Good job!Hey MB. What are why doing here, I thought youd blocked me? A question for you. Do you take every vacation of yours in Florida? Bcos it has good restaurants, beaches, chicas, clubs? It has everything, so why bother going anywhere else?

John Clayton
08-07-22, 20:30
I wonder if Maelstrom is not thinking of the Medellin section of the escort site "pasion" where at the top it says Paisas Prepago and that on the website when it shows the chicas general location that he thinks that this is the location of a place where all the chicas with that place name label, I think they show the location because the chicas do in-call at their apartment if I am not mistaken.

https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/medellin

Groovy, thanks.

Maelstrom
08-07-22, 21:29
Do you have a link?https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/ valentina3013080315.

I'm not sure if links are allowed but just take out the space above, quite a few of them have 'Con Lugar".

A majority seem to live in Laureles/Estadio

Deafcon
08-07-22, 21:45
I booked my first trip to Colombia today. I'll be there September 3-17. I'm starting a spreadsheet to list things I might need while there. I'd appreciate feedback on things that you didn't think of, but would have been useful on your trips. For example, we've seen a lot of discussion here lately about "bombillos". Do you bring snacks from home so that the girls can experience something from your home country? If so, what do you find is really popular with them? I've seen people mention bringing small gifts from like a Five Bellow, what did you buy there? Once complete, I'd be happy to share the spreadsheet with any board member who'd like it.

Mojo Bandit
08-07-22, 22:08
You speak Spanish and you bought an apartment (in Bello, if I'm not mistaken? This means you are a local mf now, and live there for extended periods of time. The truth is, very few of us can replicate what you, and Osteoknot, for example, are doing (not that we all want to do the same though).

P.S. you never heard of a gringo getting robbed or scoped in Manrique or Aranjuez because very few gringos, if any at all, ever showed up there. Your sample is ridiculously small lol


I wasn't trying to promote the barrios. I do end the posts with dont come out there right hehe. Im just putting different and unique experiences out there.Yes, I agree I should put some disclaimers on my posts, but then it'll make me come off as cocky hehe.RR99 I particularly enjoy reading your posts. I love hearing about the other barrios from your perspective. I have been following you (enviously) since your decision to buy an apartment in Bello, but I also agree that you should explain your situation as a disclaimer so newbies do not mistake it for something they can pull off. I you should have a generic disclaimer about your being fluent in Spanish and maybe you know more what to expect and since you are around Colombians more you know better how to carry yourself etc but by all means keep the posts coming I am very interested in these barrio areas.

Mojo Bandit
08-07-22, 22:19
https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/ valentina3013080315.

I'm not sure if links are allowed but just take out the space above, quite a few of them have 'Con Lugar".

A majority seem to live in Laureles/EstadioThat number, 301 308 0315 is her phone number right? So you plug it into your whatsapp after the Colombia dialing code +57 and you can maybe send her messages and get information.

Frank Lucas
08-07-22, 23:13
RR99 I particularly enjoy reading your posts. I love hearing about the other barrios from your perspective. I have been following you (enviously) since your decision to buy an apartment in Bello, but I also agree that you should explain your situation as a disclaimer so newbies do not mistake it for something they can pull off. I you should have a generic disclaimer about your being fluent in Spanish and maybe you know more what to expect and since you are around Colombians more you know better how to carry yourself etc but by all means keep the posts coming I am very interested in these barrio areas.Totally disagree with RR having to do a disclaimer. He is just writing his adventures, if you are too dumb to figure out that you should not be in the barrios if you don't live here or speak decent Spanish, well then that is on you sirs.

No need for a poster to have to do extra work for those that cant figure it out.

AdamWl
08-08-22, 00:26
Picked up my second el centro SW. This time much sweeter than the previous one. Cute as hell, we hit it off right from the start, she just had a sparkle in her eyes and good vibe about her. Vennie. 20 yo. Petite. 50 mil for 40 min, didn't feel like haggling with her. Room 12 mil. As we entered the room, she just glues herself to me, starts to look deeply in my eyes, hugging, we kiss a bit. She asked personal questions and seemed genuinely interested in the answers.

After a shower I mention oral sin condon, she smiles and starts explaining something to me, I didn't understand anything. Doesn't matter, I just put it on. Very nice BJ skills. A bit of pubic patch, nice for a change, my first chica here that wasn't completely bald. Nice titties but unfortunately not firm, she must've have had the baby already. Ass not that firm either, not saggy or anything just 'watery'. Anyway, the vibe was very good she was very engaged and I just couldn't get enough of her cute face. Couple positions and I finish.

No whatsapp. No fayboo either, she said she lost her account or something like that and she's using her sister's account. She was trying to explain this to me in as clear Spanish as possible with the hope I understand. She wasn't annoyed with me, I saw she tries her best patiently. Unfortunately repeating the world I don't understand slowly an clearly over and over doesn't really help that much, neither stroking my hand while repeating it, but once the google translate was out it went smoothly. She sent a friend request to her sister then made sure I message her there and then. Once I did she seemed relieved and satisfied. We hug and kiss and part ways.

Saw an older gentlemen gringo strolling around Veracruz church checking out the chicas. As gringo as one can get I suppose, tall, pale white skin, white hair and very short shorts. Could be spotted from a mile. He just walked like a boss and like he doesn't give a fuck. Admired his confidence.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 00:32
What's this phrase? I'm trying to think of the implication, but all I can come up with is women in Medellin are lesbians and are only with men as providers?But then I Goolged it and got this definition for social anthropology: "The branch of anthropology concerned with the study of human societies and cultures and their development. ".

Ask Recondite. His original response mentioned "a social science / anthropology perspective which makes me want to get to the bottom of how these social dynamics work". So I combined his phrases.

BTW, your observation is pretty spot on. I have mentioned several times the saying in Medellin, "When a woman cheats on you, it is usually with another woman". Seems like most of the women I meet are either lesbians functioning as sex workers, lesbians, bisexual, or bi-curious.

I spent my last afternoon in Medellin huddled between these two,18 year-old cuties who live together at their puta hotel. They sleep in the same bed. The larger one I named Freckle because of the lone freckle next to her pussy. You can see the freckle in the last foto on her labia majora just to the left of her closed pussy hole. Later I found one more freckle on her immaculate body on the sole of her right foot.

Freckle is dominant and she sends the Little One out do the sex work at Poblado and Ground Zero, to pay the bills. Everything about their relationship appears romantic and sexual but they tell me not, but if not, then it's just a matter of time. A good friend of mine said just put enough pink shit under their nose and that will tip them over the edge every time, jajaja.

Freckle has one of the bests chests out there. In fact, her body is damn near purrfekt and yet you will never guess what she is getting tomorrow. Liposuction. At first, my opinion was pretty low for any doctor who would take money from an 18 year-old to perform unneeded cosmetic surgery. But then again, who am I to say if it makes her happy? I know Freckle was obsessed with it since I met her but I didn't think she was seriously going to do it. I am sure most of the money she is using for it is from what I gave her and the Little One while I was there, so I do have some mixed feelings. As long as nothing gets botched about the surgery, if it makes her happy, then so be it.

Yesterday afternoon, I was in their bed concentrating on Freckle, who I met at the end of my previous trip and before she had the Little One as her girlfiend. When I would start to move over to the Little One, she would look at Freckle for direction, Freckle would nod and tell her to go ahead, and then the Little One would be compliant and do whatever was on my mind. Total turn on. Freckle prohibits me from fucking the Little One without a condom, even though she does not require me to use a condom on herself. A lot of dynamics in play.

Sorry to rehash a few old fotos of those two chicas, but all my fotos from yesterday afternoon are stuck on my Colombian WOM phone and it ain't working now that I am back in the states. I think to upload those fotos I am going to have to put in a new chip in my Colombian phone, it's a Nokia. Any suggestions? Wal-Mart? Kroeger? I won't be using it as my main phone but I'd like to upload the fotos on it to my Google Cloud. Any help appreciated, I am average tech-savy, probably less-so when it comes to phones.

AdamWl
08-08-22, 00:39
Thanks, I think I remember getting a promotional offer to open an account but I chickened out because there was no FDIC insurance and they had a lot of crypto investments.True, there was no insurance in the beginning but they've added it later. Yeah, originally it was just multi-currency account for travelers to battle the fees but they've added bunch of stuff on top of that since then, like crypto, stocks etc.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 00:40
A lot of these centro SWs have kind of stern / cold expression on their faces, especially the ones standing alone. Others seem bored. Chat them up a bit or just break the ice and their game face melts away almost every time. I often see a personality transformation for the better once we are in the room. Think of it of from their perspective for a moment. They need to keep their guard up.

My wingman was the same way. He wouldn't approach a chica if she didn't like the expression on her face. I agree, probably from a marketing perspective some chicas could do better. But if I think about all the fine chocha I would've missed out on by applying that rule, well, let's just say I don't follow that rule.

If you otherwise like their looks and body, approach them and see if their expression quickly changes. You can always walk away.

AdamWl
08-08-22, 00:51
Has anyone here had the courage to do a session at the prepago's place?There is always some risk where you aren't in control of the environment. Best just take the cash with you and not much more. I'd rather schedule the first session in love motel then consider her place if she seems trustworthy (and exist at all). Also, worth checking whether the girl has any reviews on catadorcolombia.

BlackThought
08-08-22, 00:58
Saw an older gentlemen gringo strolling around Veracruz church checking out the chicas. As gringo as one can get I suppose, tall, pale white skin, white hair and very short shorts. Could be spotted from a mile. He just walked like a boss and like he doesn't give a fuck. Admired his confidence.That's surfer.

AdamWl
08-08-22, 01:23
Im sure there are some mongers out there that enjoy reading my barrio posts, and thats enough reason for me to write, but I'll go back to my Bello bubble.Please keep the posts coming! This is a very unique and interesting perspective and you're the only man on the ground there on this forum (as far as I can tell).

JustTK
08-08-22, 01:29
There is always some risk where you aren't in control of the environment. Best just take the cash with you and not much more. I'd rather schedule the first session in love motel then consider her place if she seems trustworthy (and exist at all). Also, worth checking whether the girl has any reviews on catadorcolombia.Many times. I met a girl from Amigas Sexi at her apartment last week because she didn't have a cedula and couldn't come to mine. Met lots of girls off Mileroticos at their aptos too.

It's fun to go to the barrios. Its where the real life is for the majority.

JustTK
08-08-22, 01:31
That's surfer.Haha. Tall? Short shorts? The rest kinda fits.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 01:55
Well sounds like your going to be going into withdrawal upon exiting Colombia.

What are you going to do while your away?

I remember one of our posters, Sjobs, who was stuck outside Colombia during the Pandemic came up with all kinds of stories of how he would smuggle himself into Colombia when it was closed by bribing Immigration officials if necessary, and even sneaking in from Venezuela.

All total fiction of course, but the posts where quite entertaining being so unbelievable.

And with you being a high wire act, with no balancing beam, or a safety net below, it surprising that you didn't get jacked up on this trip.

Safe travels!I was so tired from no sleep for 38 hours that I slept through all 3 of my flights only to be awakened each time by the landing. Really, it was the easiest trip ever although sometimes I am pretty sore the next day from sleeping so much in airline seats. Nine hours after landing, I feel pretty good, I think the gym work I was doing in MDE really helped.

My last night with Catgirl and Scarlet was phenomenal. They are both long-term loves, and they both returned the evening of my departure, my taxi picked my up at 9:00 PM last night and I got in at 11 AM Sunday.

For pure love and emotion from which it was very hard to tear away, the few hours I spent in bed with Freckle and the Little One was off the charts, in the puta motel across the street from The Nutti. I just posted about it. My relationship with Freckle makes no sense other than we love each other's company. I started with her this trip when I went directly from the airport and spent five nights with her in a different dive motel in the Belly of the Beast in El Centro. Then she found a girlfriend, the Little One, who accepts me at Freckles' behest. I can't describe it fully and you know I am not usually at a loss for words. They are both 18 years old.

What am I going to do here? I have a hundred things to do and nothing I have to do, being retired. I am going to get overnight shipping of a new phone from my old provider to replace the one that was stolen. My cable service is out but I have Internet as you can see.

My yard guy seems to have abandoned me and it's a jungle out there. Right before I left I had a tree removed and a bunch of roots ground out but now there are like 50 little trees sprouting up, see foto.

One of my two antique sports cars wouldn't start even though it was on a battery tender, I hope all I need is a new battery, I have a diagnostic machine hooked up to it now, see foto.

I want to get hundreds of fotos off my Colombian burner phone that is not working now that I am in the states, although that realization did not occur to me until I was sitting in the MDE airport. I just posted about that.

I need to help supervise my casa build in San Cristobal but Catgirl is very good at that. Eleven foundation columns are going in now. I need a new visa in order to return this calendar year to MDE. I fucked up as usual and once I got to Medellin, sex, drugs, and guraracha music took over and I procrastinated on those plans. I have a couple of Colombian lawyer leads for where's you pays your money, and you gets your visa, end of story. Expensive, but for me probably the best value.

Keep up with the gym that I started in Medellin. I lead a very healthy lifestyle here. No drugs, no mongering. My best friend is my ex-wife but she lives several states north. We like to travel together. I pretty much don't date. Medellin has ruined my tolerance for the bullshit in pussy prison here. The last chica who wanted to go out with me here, I told her to show at my front door in an overcoat with no underwear, and we had to fuck first before we went out. She considered it, but in the end she was a no-show, jajaja.

Continue remodeling my house, the finest example of Mid-Century Modern in my city. I often get asked if it is a Frank Lloyd Wright designed home, I wish. I lead a good life.

I know my lifestyle seems like a "high wire act" to some, but it's all relative. I wrote about my friend Crazy George in Medellin. I look like a monk compared to him. I admit I am more than 2 standard deviations away from the mean, for sure.

I have been this way all my life so it will be a tough sell to get me to think something needs to change, not saying you did. Most people don't get me, but that's not important. I don't need or want to be understood, which I consider to be one of the greater human fallacies. I am fully prepared for the consequences of my actions other than I prefer not to be tortured to death or suffer significant permanent disability. Other than that, If I Die Tomorrow, I Die A Happy Man, my epitaph. Live one day at a time.

I have never felt deeper in love with Catgirl. In fact, there is a lot of love with all the chicas on my List. Once you accept the premise that money equals love in the Medellin culture, so much of the behaviors become crystal clear. I am not being trite. The concept is profound and deep and you have to digest it for a long time before it sinks in. At least it took me awhile to get it and I am generally a Quick Study. BTW, I am not saying you have to spend a lot of money to be loved.

Thanks for the question. I can be a real asshole sometimes but I don't let it bother me. Before I retired in 2019, I had a high profile position in a Fortune 20 company and I constantly had to be aware of my professional reputation, and so forth. One of the revelations I made after retirement was I stopped trying to be a better man. Great decision. Made me a better man, jajajajaja.

I can't speak for SJobs but I am a Truth Seeker and everything I post is 90% true. I don't claim 100% because I am on the inside looking out, and it is impossible to eliminate personal bias. But to the best of my ability, and I am better at it than the average bear, my number one driving force is the search for The Truth. I will admit some of my shit seems unbelievable. You should see the stuff I leave out that I don't bother to post because I know very few would believe me. If after I write it down, I read it and think, "If I wasn't the one it happened to, I would not believe this shit"! Then I usually leave it out, jajajajajaa.

Maelstrom
08-08-22, 02:37
There is always some risk where you aren't in control of the environment. Best just take the cash with you and not much more. I'd rather schedule the first session in love motel then consider her place if she seems trustworthy (and exist at all). Also, worth checking whether the girl has any reviews on catadorcolombia.Thanks I will check out that site.

Maelstrom
08-08-22, 02:39
Many times. I met a girl from Amigas Sexi at her apartment last week because she didn't have a cedula and couldn't come to mine. Met lots of girls off Mileroticos at their aptos too.

It's fun to go to the barrios. Its where the real life is for the majority.This is what I was thinking as well. They're more comfortable and would give really good service. I'm going next month I will report back. There are interesting ones that are based in Laureles.

Surfer500
08-08-22, 02:40
That's surfer.Hate to disappoint you, but that wasn't me that was described.

Note even close.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 02:56
Even he can run out of luck in a flash and without notice. Manrique, Bello, whatever, they damn sure know he isn't a local. He's also cocky and partying heavy. At least he's been warned.RiceRocket has nothing to worry about. Tomorrow is promised to no one, there are no guarantees in life. Why do you give a shit how he lives, especially since he is obviously enjoying himself? You come across as one of the most bitter and unhappy dudes here, to me. Have you met him? I have. Dude knows what he is doing.

In fact, that's a barometer I use in general here. If a user is mostly posting criticims, Stupid Shit, with very little examples of fucking, licking or getting sucked, or some form of joy about sex in life, then what the hell are they doing here and why should I pay any attention to them? This is a mongering board! Sex is supposed to be fun and enjoyable.

I seriously need to think about reinstituting my Ignore List. I am still trying to learn.

Nounce
08-08-22, 03:21
...There's a cool restaurant called Hangar M45 by Zenith that has an airplane theme with actual airplane seats, parts, and cockpit. The waiters / waitresses wear pilot / flight attendant attire. Go check it out! ....Guys, do yourself a favor and google this place as a reference.

RR99, unless you have use name that contains the word Gee or Alfred. I think you are not the only Chino active around that area.

CaliSunGod
08-08-22, 03:28
Hey bud,

Don't know if you remember but we chatted a while ago on one of the forums here. I don't have the premium so can't send PMs. We shared some experiences about our favorite places in Medellin, including the San Diego area and the Plaza Botero area. You gave me some friendly advice and I say I'd like to repay you with a beer someday. Well I'm heading to Medellin again in a few days. If you're there I still owe you that beer.

Cali.

Tomcat 88
08-08-22, 03:30
I was bored and horny Sunday so went hunting online. Found 20-year-old Chantal on Mileroticos who was offering an hour for 60 mil. Liked her looks, so entered her in contacts so I could Whatsapp. We made a date. I speak only minimal Spanish but with translator on laptop can text fine.

Took shower, chewed sildenafil and hurried to find taxi. 11 mil got me 4 km away in Laureles and 5 minutes early. Texted her. Chantal said wait a moment. Smoked and loitered, watched traffic on busy Av. San Juan. Considered surprises that might await me inside building.

Chantal texted apartment number. Pressed bell. Door unlocked. Climbed many stairs to her apartment. Old guy was keeping watch from open door near hers.

Chantal let me in, greeted me warmly and led me through kitchen to her bedroom. Not a sound but I suspected there were two or three other women in there.

Had to pay in advance. Undressed while she turned in money. Chantal returned, asked in her cheerful way if I wanted massage. Yes, I said, of penis. Got handjob and covered blowjob. Licked her too, which she liked. Fucked mish and doggie till tired. I am 72, have smoked a lifetime and don't have good wind.

Offered 20 mil for bareback blowjob. It was good enough to use up rest of time. We talked too, and I learned she was 21 now, studied law mornings and worked here 2-8 pm.

That was it. Tipped 20 mil and extra 10 mil for attitude. Chantal made sure coast was clear before escorting me to door and kissing goodbye. Surprise was how pleasant she was.

Backtracked and caught taxi home for 9. 6 mil.

AdamWl
08-08-22, 03:40
stuck on my Colombian WOM phone and it ain't working now that I am back in the states. I think to upload those fotos I am going to have to put in a new chip in my Colombian phone, it's a Nokia. Any suggestions? Wal-Mart? Kroeger? I won't be using it as my main phone but I'd like to upload the fotos on it to my Google Cloud. Any help appreciated, I am average tech-savy, probably less-so when it comes to phones.You could try connecting it to Wi-Fi if it has that capability. Or if it has Bluetooth you could try to send the photos to another phone (or to a laptop that has Bluetooth). You can also try connecting via usb cable to the PC / laptop and see if you can copy the data from there. Not sure if the phone is sim-locked for Colombian service provider, if it is then you might need to find a tech-store that removes the simlocks and then you can put any service provider SIM card. Another option, if the Colombian service provider offers it, is to enable international / USA data roaming but this can get *very* expensive especially uploading / downloading a lot of data so better check the pricing if going that route.

RiceRocket99
08-08-22, 04:03
Damnit. You busted me out. I'm def going back to hiding fuck, thought I deleted that post from that FB group. Gotta go back and do that now damnit jajaja. its been fun while it lasted.


Guys, do yourself a favor and google this place as a reference.

RR99, unless you have use name that contains the word Gee or Alfred. I think you are not the only Chino active around that area.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 04:13
You could try connecting it to Wi-Fi if it has that capability. Or if it has Bluetooth you could try to send the photos to another phone (or to a laptop that has Bluetooth). You can also try connecting via usb cable to the PC / laptop and see if you can copy the data from there. Not sure if the phone is sim-locked for Colombian service provider, if it is then you might need to find a tech-store that removes the simlocks and then you can put any service provider SIM card. Another option, if the Colombian service provider offers it, is to enable international / USA data roaming but this can get *very* expensive especially uploading / downloading a lot of data so better check the pricing if going that route.Tried my Spectrum WiFi, no go. I tried the Bluetooth and made a connection to my laptop but all the Outbound transfers were "unsuccessful". I plugged a USB cable from my computer into the phone but all it does is indicate that it is charging. I believe the phone is SIM-locked as you wrote, which I why it stopped working when I left Colombia, I believe.

I agree, roaming charges would probably be exorbitant. I have a portable hard CD drive, maybe record it onto that and then transfer? I may need to get the phone unlocked. Or just live with the idea that I have fotos stuck on a fone. Wait until I return to Colombia and load them to the Cloud, which I should have done before I left. Hindsight being 20/20 and all that. Thanks again for your response!

AdamWl
08-08-22, 05:25
I booked my first trip to Colombia today. I'll be there September 3-17. I'm starting a spreadsheet to list things I might need while there. I'd appreciate feedback on things that you didn't think of, but would have been useful on your trips. For example, we've seen a lot of discussion here lately about "bombillos". Do you bring snacks from home so that the girls can experience something from your home country? If so, what do you find is really popular with them? I've seen people mention bringing small gifts from like a Five Bellow, what did you buy there? Once complete, I'd be happy to share the spreadsheet with any board member who'd like it.Don't know where are you from but it's a good idea to check power sockets compatibility. Copies of documents. Zipped wallet, preferably attached to the belt / jeans. Probably best to leave the jewellery at home. Burner phone. Downloaded files for offline google translate and maps. Libido. Comfy sneakers if you're into walking a lot. Light rain jacket or buy an umbrella locally. Long trousers / jeans unless you don't mind being identified as gringo from afar.

I wouldn't worry too much about the particular snacks, it's the gesture and the sharing that counts really and just treating the girls like human beings. Snacks are not obligatory either and I'm sure plenty of members monger successfully here without them. Just a nice touch and bit of bonding that can return dividends on the next visit.

Bombillos can be purchased locally, if needed (also not obligatory, hard to imagine you'll need more than one on a short trip, if that).

Don't know about gifts, one needs to be careful not to go over the top and appear supplicating. So with right delivery it can be fine but I just wouldn't worry to much about it on your first trip. Not necessary if you ask me.

What you will need or not depends largely on your mongering style / itinerary really.

Don't see Bluetooth speaker on the screenshot, this has been the biggest improvement in sessions for me here.

I don't know how's your Spanish, I was glad I knew the numbers and couple basic phrases before landing.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 07:07
Don't see Bluetooth speaker on the screenshot, this has been the biggest improvement in sessions for me here.Not sure how many guys are aware of that dual functionality, the bombillos are also Blue Tooth speakers.

MoonShot
08-08-22, 11:20
I booked my first trip to Colombia today. I'll be there September 3-17. I'm starting a spreadsheet to list things I might need while there. I'd appreciate feedback on things that you didn't think of, but would have been useful on your trips. For example, we've seen a lot of discussion here lately about "bombillos". Do you bring snacks from home so that the girls can experience something from your home country? If so, what do you find is really popular with them? I've seen people mention bringing small gifts from like a Five Bellow, what did you buy there? Once complete, I'd be happy to share the spreadsheet with any board member who'd like it.I am also going to be in Medellin for my first trip in the first week of September. I guess September must be newbie month. It's my first time in Colombia but I have been traveling to Guadalajara for the past year so I feel comfortable in a country that speaks Spanish even though I only speak some Spanish. That has always been my biggest concern about Colombia. But I have made some effort to learn more Spanish and now it is not the case that I don't speak any Spanish. And for Colombia, there is also local slang that you can learn.

I would minimize toiletries if space is an issue in your suitcase because you can buy whatever you need from the local drugstore or supermarket. Bringing mouthwash is a bad idea because it is liquid and may leak and mouthwash should be easy to buy in Medellin. The local drugstore and supermarket should have most of the items that you would find in your local stores. But bringing your condoms and your favorite lube is a good idea. Almost all decent hotels will provide soap, shampoo, small toiletries. This is based not on my experience in Medellin but my experiences traveling to other countries.

I do bring some gifts from home. Some guys think it is not necessary and it isn't but girls do appreciate the small gifts along with the money. It feel that makes them remember me a little bit more than the guy who just pays them money but I could be wrong.

Nounce
08-08-22, 11:33
... It has everything, so why bother going anywhere else?A friend owns a successful business in El Poblado. Guess where he lives? El Centro. When he gave me a tour, where did he take me? El Centro. Even at night time, he took me to a place that is off the beaten path. It's a mistake to think everyone thinks the same way. El Poblado has the best of certain things, but not everything.

Nounce
08-08-22, 11:37
This is what I was thinking as well. They're more comfortable and would give really good service. I'm going next month I will report back. There are interesting ones that are based in Laureles.Keep in mind that not all apartments are the same. Some are shared so your assumption won't work in all cases. They may feel more comfortable because they have more control but that does not mean they will provide better service or you will feel comfortable.

DiorHomie
08-08-22, 11:53
Boys,

I've been in Bogota for about a month and the prices / chicas are amazing. I'm transitioning to Medellin soon. How are the Medellin street girls prices in comparison to Bogota? Here it's no more than 100 mil pesos for everything.

Surfer500
08-08-22, 12:07
I have never felt deeper in love with Catgirl. In fact, there is a lot of love with all the chicas on my List. Once you accept the premise that money equals love in the Medellin culture, so much of the behaviors become crystal clear. I am not being trite. The concept is profound and deep and you have to digest it for a long time before it sinks in. At least it took me awhile to get it and I am generally a Quick Study. BTW, I am not saying you have to spend a lot of money to be loved.

I agree with the concept that love=money in Colombia.

Basically we are in the "pay-pool", and it can be very cheap indeed.

John Gault
08-08-22, 12:27
{ I know my lifestyle seems like a "high wire act" to some, but it's all relative. I wrote about my friend Crazy George in Medellin. I look like a monk compared to him. }.

Since I met you twice last month in MDE I can believe all the stuff you put out. What I have trouble with is this Crazy George being more loco than you. Ja Ja.

JustTK
08-08-22, 14:30
A friend owns a successful business in El Poblado. Guess where he lives? El Centro. When he gave me a tour, where did he take me? El Centro. Even at night time, he took me to a place that is off the beaten path. It's a mistake to think everyone thinks the same way. El Poblado has the best of certain things, but not everything.You clearly missed my heavy dose of sarcasm aimed at the conservative High School Prom Queen lover MB. He wrote "Poblado and Laureles got the best restaurants, bars and nightlife. Best hotels and apartments. Best cinemas and shopping malls. It makes no sense to go across the whole city to one of those barrios, let alone stay there, especially if a monger doesn't speak Spanish. I'm not new to MDE, but can't imagine myself partying in Aranjuez, why would I go there if I could party in Provenza and have fun? ".

Hence my question about why he would ever leave Florida if it had great restaurants, clubs and girls. He doesn't seem to appreciate that variety is the spice of life. He goes around life with his tape measure, judjing if things are up to his standard and stays only with what passes his peculiar criteria. Or so it seems to me from his hilarious comments.

Nounce
08-08-22, 14:57
You clearly missed my heavy dose of sarcasm ...I don't think so unless you think I am talking about you.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 15:32
{ I know my lifestyle seems like a "high wire act" to some, but it's all relative. I wrote about my friend Crazy George in Medellin. I look like a monk compared to him. }.

Since I met you twice last month in MDE I can believe all the stuff you put out. What I have trouble with is this Crazy George being more loco than you. Ja Ja.He repeatedly mentions or references "fiction" for no apparent reason when he responds to me (sigh with eye roll). Not important nor relevant to my life, but that's why I repeatedly mention that he lives in a box of his own construction. Like a lot of people, he has very preconcieved ideas of how life around him should proceed and exist.

When Surfer or guys like him read or attempt to comprehend experiences that are so far removed from anything they could possibly possbily imagine experienceing on their own, their brain defaults to "fiction" in order to preserve their sense of self. Not saying he or anyone is emulating me, or maybe a few, but it it simply too much of a challenge to their core concept of self to incorporate or accept accounts that are so different from anything they will ever experience on their own. Psychology 101, stuff.

To accept others who are different, that takes open-mindedness, an ability to synthesize new concepts out of the info provided, and a maturity and higher level of intellectual functioning that most people simply do not posess, so he is definitely not alone. In the beginning when I first started posting here over two years ago I think, I used to get a lot more challenges about the accuracy of my accounts, but I guess I wore them down with my constancy, jajajaja. Now, it's pretty much just Surfer-Dude.

Like you, Loopy, who is a very insightful dude, met me and afterwards he wrote here something something like, "he is the same in real life as he is when he posts". I was glad he saw it that way. You have just enough "wild man" in you to recognize and respect someone who is bent like me.

Really, it's the height of rudeness on Surfer's part but it's not like ISG is insulated from assholes, quite the opposite. But I get it and and I am the honest one on this issue. I know he doesn't get it, he probably never will and and he might not even be conciously aware of this particular short circuit default in his brain, so I try not to take it personally. He is after all, one of the self-appointed subject matter experts here, and he addition to preservation of his self, he probably feels he is doing his duty in pointing out his opinion about my veracity to other users here. Who knows? I don't have anything to prove to anyone, jajajaja.

Now, I got to get me a phone, and quick-like.

AdamWl
08-08-22, 15:42
Tried my Spectrum WiFi, no go. I tried the Bluetooth and made a connection to my laptop but all the Outbound transfers were "unsuccessful". I plugged a USB cable from my computer into the phone but all it does is indicate that it is charging. I believe the phone is SIM-locked as you wrote, which I why it stopped working when I left Colombia, I believe.

I agree, roaming charges would probably be exorbitant. I have a portable hard CD drive, maybe record it onto that and then transfer? I may need to get the phone unlocked. Or just live with the idea that I have fotos stuck on a fone. Wait until I return to Colombia and load them to the Cloud, which I should have done before I left. Hindsight being 20/20 and all that. Thanks again for your response!Strange that Wi-Fi didn't work if the phone has that capability, that would be the easiest route.

What phone model is it? Does it have a SD / microSD slot? If so you could copy photos from the internal memory to SD card and then put the SD card into another phone or laptop.

As for Bluetooth, on some laptops you need specifically open the Bluetooth app then choose "Receive files" option, only then the transfer will be allowed.

It might be worth trying to send files to another phone that has Bluetooth as well. You should get a prompt on the receiving phone asking you whether you want accept the files.

Can't comment on the portable hard CD drive, I haven't used those before, not sure if you can just plug it to the phone and record.


I plugged a USB cable from my computer into the phone but all it does is indicate that it is charging.Try unlocking the phone / plugging it while unlocked, to see if you get a prompt on the phone asking if you want to use the phone as storage device (or something along those lines), if so, hit yes and then the phone should appear in the "This PC / My computer" section.

Tomcat 88
08-08-22, 15:43
I was bored and horny Sunday so went hunting online. Found 20-year-old Chantal on Mileroticos who was offering an hour for 60 mil. Liked her looks, so entered her in contacts to Whatsapp. We made a date. I speak only minimal Spanish but with translator on laptop can text fine.

Took shower, chewed sildenafil and hurried to find taxi. 11 mil got me 4 km away in Laureles and 5 minutes early. Texted her. Chantal said wait a moment. Smoked and loitered, watched traffic on busy Av. San Juan. Considered surprises that might await me inside building.

Chantal texted apartment number. Pressed bell. Door unlocked. Climbed many stairs to her apartment. Old guy was keeping watch from open door near hers.

Chantal let me in, greeted me warmly and led me through kitchen to her bedroom. Not a sound but I suspected there were two or three other women in there.

Had to pay in advance. Undressed while she turned in money. Chantal returned, asked in her cheerful way if I wanted massage. Yes, I said, of penis. Got handjob and covered blowjob. Licked her too, which she liked. Fucked mish and doggie till tired. I am 72, have smoked a lifetime and don't have good wind.

Offered 20 mil for bareback blowjob. It was good enough to use up rest of time. We talked too, and I learned she was 21 now, studied law mornings and worked here 2-8 pm.

That was it. Tipped 20 mil and extra 10 mil for attitude. Chantal made sure coast was clear before escorting me to door and kissing goodbye. Surprise was how pleasant she was.

Backtracked and caught taxi home for 9.6 mil.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 15:56
I agree with the concept that love=money in Colombia.

Basically we are in the "pay-pool", and it can be very cheap indeed.Love equals money or money equals love. I don't mean on a superficial level. The chicas really feel it. To them, we are rich beyond their dreams and they feel, if you love me, why wouldn't you give me money? Once I truly incorporated and accepted the concept, my relationships with all my chicas blossomed and became clear.

Like you mentioned, surprisingly, it can have little to do with the actual dollar amount. The chicas have an innate and accurate sense of their worth, in pesos and dollars, referenced to what the guy who they are with can afford to pay, and they adjust their expectations accordingly. As long as they feel the guy who they are with is giving something proportionate to what he can actually afford, they are happy.

My downfall, is my chicas see how much I spend on the pink shit, and that unfortunately sets the bar quite a bit higher, but that "problem" is of my own doing and I can only blame myself for that predicament, not them. What can I say when they observe, "But you spent X-million pesos this week on. . . ? " I tell them I worked long and hard to spend my money the way I choose, but if we are talking love, that is obviously a selfish retort and does not fly well.

The flip-side to this is that the mongerer has to buy-in to the same concept and not feel like they are being "used" or taken advantage of when they pay. Then, you can have a truly loving relationship with these chicas, if so desired.

All this only matters if guys want or are trying to actually develop meaningful and fulfilling relationships with the chicas. For the mongerers who are one-and-done, wet-mudhole fuckers, who see Pay 4 Play as a binary transaction without shades of gray, this concept is basically meaningless and not useful to them. I can appreciate that and keeping it simple. That is simply not me. Maybe I should trend a little more in that direction, because my life in Medellin often appears complicated and out-of-control to some, but I love it that way and I am very, very happy!

AdamWl
08-08-22, 16:23
Not sure how many guys are aware of that dual functionality, the bombillos are also Blue Tooth speakers.True, forgot about that completely. I was pleasantly surprised when discovered it, the one you recommended seems to even have some kind of rough light change sync with music (or I might be imagining things jaja). I wish it had a better bass though but for the price it's still great all-in-one piece of equipment. I usually use it for longer sessions (1 h+).

AdamWl
08-08-22, 16:48
Chat them up a bit or just break the ice and their game face melts away almost every time. I often see a personality transformation for the better once we are in the room. Think of it of from their perspective for a moment. They need to keep their guard up.

My wingman was the same way. He wouldn't approach a chica if she didn't like the expression on her face. I agree, probably from a marketing perspective some chicas could do better. But if I think about all the fine chocha I would've missed out on by applying that rule, well, let's just say I don't follow that rule.

If you otherwise like their looks and body, approach them and see if their expression quickly changes. You can always walk away.Thanks, that makes sense. I thought about it more later and realised they can see literally thousands of people walking by and ogling them daily (some presumably pestering), so it is no surprise they adopt some kind of detached / brave face.

MaddHater
08-08-22, 17:17
First time and looking for some guidance, I suppose we have all been here, any pro that want to show me the ropes.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 17:27
True, forgot about that completely. I was pleasantly surprised when discovered it, the one you recommended seems to even have some kind of rough light change sync with music (or I might be imagining things jaja). I wish it had a better bass though but for the price it's still great all-in-one piece of equipment. I usually use it for longer sessions (1 h+).The effect on the chicas is nothing short of amazing. I posted this once already, and perhaps it falls under the topic of "unbelievable". I was at my favorite Ground Zero love motel after a short-circuited session with Sugar Baby because she wouldn't let me bareback her.

My bombilla is on in my dark room, including music, door half-open, I was on the bed staring at the ceiling, I am sure I was high-as-fuck, plotting my next move.

Before I know it, I look up and there are five maids standing at my partially open door, mesmerized. One of the maids was off-duty and I ended up fucking her right then and there with the full-knowledge of the other girls. I swear it was the bombilla, like moths to a flame, jajajajaja. She had a homely little face but her chest and the rest of her body was spectacular. I will look for the foto, quick-like.

Like Surfer-Dude said, I think I am going thru pussy and moreso, love withdrawal, already. I almost have the longest post of my life ready to go up later, documenting my last day. I think posting is helping me adjust. Excuse the self-indulgence but some of you might find my final day entertaining.

I have a chronic brain injury called PBA, which can make me very emotionally labile. I can cry at the drop of a hat right now thinking about the chicas on my List and the love of my life, Catgirl. I am not depressed, I am happy, it's an organic brain injury, not mental illness like you are thinking, jajajajaa. Posting feels therapeutic to me when I get like this.

Found the foto, easily. Obvio, that's the bombillo lighting on her chest, jjajajajaja. She had two extra freckles on her right nipple, considered a sign of sexual potency in a lot of cultures. For a guy who is not into boobs much, I had a run of chicas with exceptional chests this trip that was uncanny.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 17:38
"Be like me" and delete everything every few days or so, jajajajaja. You won't miss it.

JustTK
08-08-22, 17:40
I don't think so unless you think I am talking about you.Thats the way it reads to me. No one else was mentioned. :)

JustTK
08-08-22, 17:45
I was bored and horny Sunday so went hunting online. Found 20-year-old Chantal on Mileroticos who was offering an hour for 60 mil.

Backtracked and caught taxi home for 9.6 mil.Much to the surpirse of many, that's how it nearly always ends up. They are humans too, just trying to get by in life. Great that you understand that too.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 18:05
I was bored and horny Sunday so went hunting online.

Tipped 20 mil and extra 10 mil for attitude. All sessions should be so smooth and satisfying. Especially on the spur of the moment, like you did.

I have no idea what TK was referencing in his response to you, par for the course.

ILikeButts
08-08-22, 19:31
I haven't heard of a gringo getting robbed or scoped in Manrique or Aranjuez, but Poblado and Laureles you hear those stories on the weekly. Thieves don't go to the barrios to rob gringos! Agree 100%, especially as to Poblado. I've stayed in both, saw a few gringos in Laurels but Poblado was overrun them. I always laugh when I hear some recommend Poblado because it is "safer. ".

Deafcon
08-08-22, 20:10
Don't know where are you from but it's a good idea to check power sockets compatibility. Copies of documents. Zipped wallet, preferably attached to the belt / jeans. Probably best to leave the jewellery at home. Burner phone. Downloaded files for offline google translate and maps. Libido. Comfy sneakers if you're into walking a lot. Light rain jacket or buy an umbrella locally. Long trousers / jeans unless you don't mind being identified as gringo from afar.

I wouldn't worry too much about the particular snacks, it's the gesture and the sharing that counts really and just treating the girls like human beings. Snacks are not obligatory either and I'm sure plenty of members monger successfully here without them. Just a nice touch and bit of bonding that can return dividends on the next visit.

Bombillos can be purchased locally, if needed (also not obligatory, hard to imagine you'll need more than one on a short trip, if that).

Don't know about gifts, one needs to be careful not to go over the top and appear supplicating. So with right delivery it can be fine but I just wouldn't worry to much about it on your first trip. Not necessary if you ask me.

What you will need or not depends largely on your mongering style / itinerary really.

Don't see Bluetooth speaker on the screenshot, this has been the biggest improvement in sessions for me here.

I don't know how's your Spanish, I was glad I knew the numbers and couple basic phrases before landing.I appreciate the through response. This is my first trip to Colombia, but not my first trip internationally. I have limited Spanish skills, but certainly more than none. I'm also familiar with translate and offline maps. I'm from the states, so I don't believe power adapters are necessary. All great advice for someone completely green.

I've always had drinks available in my room, but not snacks. I've also never provided gifts in the past either. However, I'm looking for any edge I can get for something other than mechanical service. I've learned that money alone can't do that. If trying to establish a connection in other ways might work, I'm willing to try. Just trying to find info about what people find works for their purposes and what doesn't.

I'd rather buy a light and pack it with me from the states than waste time purchasing one in country. I do have a bluetooth speaker on my list. Notice I've got a few different tabs in the spreadsheet in the screenshot. You did mention dick pills, which definitely should be added to my list. I need to RTFF about if these are easily accessible in country, or if I should bring my own.

Deafcon
08-08-22, 20:18
I am also going to be in Medellin for my first trip in the first week of September. I guess September must be newbie month. It's my first time in Colombia but I have been traveling to Guadalajara for the past year so I feel comfortable in a country that speaks Spanish even though I only speak some Spanish. That has always been my biggest concern about Colombia. But I have made some effort to learn more Spanish and now it is not the case that I don't speak any Spanish. And for Colombia, there is also local slang that you can learn.

I would minimize toiletries if space is an issue in your suitcase because you can buy whatever you need from the local drugstore or supermarket. Bringing mouthwash is a bad idea because it is liquid and may leak and mouthwash should be easy to buy in Medellin. The local drugstore and supermarket should have most of the items that you would find in your local stores. But bringing your condoms and your favorite lube is a good idea. Almost all decent hotels will provide soap, shampoo, small toiletries. This is based not on my experience in Medellin but my experiences traveling to other countries.

I do bring some gifts from home. Some guys think it is not necessary and it isn't but girls do appreciate the small gifts along with the money. It feel that makes them remember me a little bit more than the guy who just pays them money but I could be wrong.Space isn't a concern as far as packing goes. I'm not worried about packing a liquid. I fly 20+ round trips per year, and I've never had an issue with liquids in my checked bag. I'm always bringing some sort of drink home with me because I'm too cheap to leave it in the hotel. I agree about soap and shampoo in a normal hotel environment. However, my experience in Costa Rica and Tijuana indicates that they may not be replenished throughout my stay in more hobby centric places. Not enough of a concern to pack them, but something to note.

What sorts of small gifts have you brought with you and feel like got the girls excited?

Deafcon
08-08-22, 20:20
Not sure how many guys are aware of that dual functionality, the bombillos are also Blue Tooth speakers.I was thinking about buying a single function light here in the states and bringing it with me. My concern is that the bombillo speaker might not be much better than my phone speaker. I don't need to shake the walls or anything, but a bit more volume would be helpful. Amazon does have the light speaker combos as well.

AlphaLife001
08-08-22, 20:42
Hi everyone! I've really tried and searched and went on myself. But still the question remains to them: how do you finde before humans the nice, hot and lovely Medellin chicas who are willing to meet and have sex or just dinner for money or no money? I've tried Facebook ahead myself but it's very complicated to find Medellin girls who are real and not fake webcam profiles or just webcam girls who are not interested in physical meetings.

I do speak Spanish so it's not a problem for me to communicate.

But what would you a soon to visit mid 30 handsome Caucasian recommend to get in contact with girls beforehand and where to start? I've really tried but it's very unsatisfying. Thanks for all suggestions! And anyone up for a real meeting and a drink to teach the young padawan the way of the force in September?

ILikeButts
08-08-22, 20:49
Combo works! Amazon had everything pretty cheap. In my lab controlled.... Ahem solo environment. I was able to get AM and PM samples to test the progress every day. After about 3 weeks it has been a noticeably consistent increase in fluid. Now I just need a lab assistant when I get back to Colombia to validate everything. I will need about 20-30 peers to review my study to be sure.Thanks for the update and details, very interesting! The original poster had said the pygeum was optional, did your stack include it or not? Any side effects you noticed, besides bigger loads LOL? Good luck with validating your research with the chicas!

AlphaLife001
08-08-22, 21:22
Thanks a lot for the answer. I'll meet that place definitely in mind. The hotels I've booked so far are explicitly guest unfriendly so I was thinking of maybe getting an Airbnb in some more or less anonymous larger apartment building, not too far from where the girls and the action is.

So far I've chatted up a few girls on Facebook and actually two might be something real. Both pretty beautiful and nice but if course in financial trouble. I'm sure they are no fakes (heard their voices and saw private fotos). But it's really difficult to finde beforehand some girls. I wanted to be all set when I land in Medellin and IF I'the don't take the Venezuelan with me. She is really a piece of work but can be incredible sweet and is easily an 8,5. But the cultural difference between Venezuela and "us" westerners is tremendous. They have a terrible habit of time management and they barely seem to use WhatsApp and such. That's my experience talking to two Venezuelan girls who still and always lived there.

I'll keep you posted.


I've been to medellin twice for vacation. http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/ Is by far the best hotel for newbies. Its Large house that was converted to a Bed & Breakfast. There is a pool bar during the day time and night club in the evening they both attract ladies. Its exclusively booked by english speaking men looking for escorts. Most of the staff speak english. There is a sharing of information between dudes. I had a guy who was experienced at visiting the local brothels and walking around the down town areas. Its provides something to do during the down time. Its like training wheels for medellin.

MiamiBoy1
08-08-22, 22:08
A friend owns a successful business in El Poblado. Guess where he lives? El Centro. When he gave me a tour, where did he take me? El Centro. Even at night time, he took me to a place that is off the beaten path. It's a mistake to think everyone thinks the same way. El Poblado has the best of certain things, but not everything.This doesn't mean shit. He probably took you on a tour to El Centro just because he lives there and wanted to show you around, or perhaps, got tired of hanging out in El Poblado. Besides much lower cost of living and proximity to street action and casas, I see no other reasons to be living in El Centro, especially, if one is financially successful. I guess, he has his own motives of doing so, but objectively speaking, El Pobaldo beats El Centro in every major aspect that is important to a monger from a developed country. If you disagree with my prior statement regarding the restaurants, nightlife, malls, etc then give us a favor and explain why El Centro is the place to be.

Surfer500
08-08-22, 22:41
"Be like me" and delete everything every few days or so, jajajajaja. You won't miss it.Yikes, are you going to start sending me love letters now. LOL.

My mailbox is not full, they notify you when it reaches whatever capacity they allow.

Surfer500
08-08-22, 22:52
Much to the surprise of many, that's how it nearly always ends up. They are humans too, just trying to get by in life. Great that you understand that too.Hat's off to Tomcat, 72 years old and still banging Hoe's, the transport stuff is secondary.

RiceRocket99
08-08-22, 22:59
Thanks for the kind words bro, but Ricerocket99 no longer exists jajaja. I'm suppose to go into hiding and your post is going to have members thinking I'm someone that I'm not (got to be humble).

Disclaimer: I'm just a troll and all my barrio stories were made up. I've never been to Medellin and I'm just an amazing storyteller. This troll needs a break and will resurface in a few months with more made up barrio stories.


What you all fail to realize is. Rice rocket has been here for 10+ years. He's well established, has his contacts all over medallo. He doesn't party or just take out one girl like most guys. When he parties he parties with groups of chicas that he's known for 4+ years that are locals to whatever barrios he's at. And these ain't just regular chicas. These chicas are bad ass bandidas that have no shame in who they are or slashing a mother fucker if you cross them the wrong way.

He's also not just about getting laid and partying. He takes time to build friendships / relationships / contacts over the years. He's so well established now that his friends throws girls at him to where he does not have to hunt for desconocidas or random girls unlike the rest of us.

So yes he can afford to party in the barrios with a bunch of chicas in their hood. They treat him like he's part of their hood and he's one of them. This guy lives like a king at the fraction of the cost we all pay for logistics / girls etc and these barrio girls he's with are way better than central sw.

Respect the king. Yo better check yourselves before you wreck yourselves. A dick in yo ass is bad for your health-ice cube.

Long live the king! Long live Rice Rocket and his crew of baddies bad ass bitches!

Nounce
08-08-22, 23:38
This doesn't mean shit. He probably took you on a tour to El Centro just because he lives there and wanted to show you around, or perhaps, got tired of hanging out in El Poblado. Besides much lower cost of living and proximity to street action and casas, I see no other reasons to be living in El Centro, especially, if one is financially successful. I guess, he has his own motives of doing so, but objectively speaking, El Pobaldo beats El Centro in every major aspect that is important to a monger from a developed country. If you disagree with my prior statement regarding the restaurants, nightlife, malls, etc then give us a favor and explain why El Centro is the place to be.What you get wrong is not that people are disagreeing with you what you think is the best. The disagreement is that you make others think they should agree with you but I don't know if that is your intention or not.

Even if the areas you talked about have the best Peruvian food for example. It may mean a lot to you but it means nothing to me because it is no comparison to what you can get in Peru or even Santiago. Something can apply to steak as well. On the other hand, I am more interested in finding the best chicharron and that can exist anywhere in the city.

El Centro has the best fried chicken that can stand on it's own IMO and Mr E also says so. LOL. It also has excellent home cooked food that you can't even get in El Poblado. These are not listed on the web or map. I enjoy discovering places and finding my own experience. The people are more down to earth and friendly. I can go on and on but what is the point?

Nounce
08-08-22, 23:56
He repeatedly mentions or references "fiction" for no apparent reason when he responds to me (sigh with eye roll)....If it is based on the context of surfer's most recent post, I don't think the post means what you are doing in Medellin is fiction. I think the post is talking about the situation where you are now that you may want to get back by any means.

I don't know what surfer really thinks. I actually think that can be a complement depending on your view of SJobs. SJobs is the guy talked extensively about the pink stuff among other things. I think you would appreciate that.

Osteoknot
08-08-22, 23:58
El Pobaldo beats El Centro in every major aspect that is important to a monger from a developed country.I am from a developed country known as the US of A or Pussy Prison. I avoid Poblado because it reminds me of the US of A. You are projecting so many assumptions. To start off with, the chicas. I don't like make-up, fancy clothes, or jewelry. I imagine a chica bare naked, scrubbed clean, and what she will look like when I wake up next to her the following morning after I have fucked her senseless, grabbed her hair, maybe choked her out a couple of times (kidding about the choking out, I stop when they start to turn red). I also do not pre-judge people or chicas based on their educational level, socioeconomic status, color, etc. I have a little problem with older-age women but I have a friend who is helping me work through that.

I love El Centro, which has everything I need at reasonable prices. I know a lot of guys like me, too. I read about a lot of guys here who avoid El Centro and stick to Poblado. Can't say I have met too many of them. I get where they are coming from. I have noticed a lot of them are not from the US of A which somewhat explains the appeal to them and not for me. Poblado is like the entertainment district of any major city in the US of A, with the added attraction that you are guaranteed to get laid. I simply don't need the reminder of all those entertainment districts I have been to in the 46 different states I have visited or lived in the US of A. I focus on the getting laid part, and I have no problem finding chicas that suit my taste, including ones that a majority of guys would agree are very physically attractive in El Centro. I have to agree that if you are looking for educated, upper socioeconomic type chicas, that would be like looking for guys under 5 foot 11 inches playing in the NBA. But that's why your whole approach has been questioned here more than once. Are you mongering or engaged in some parallel activity, like dating?

No one can fault you for your personal tastes but people will resent it if you start coming across like others should automatically agree with you or think like you. To each his own.

Osteoknot
08-09-22, 01:44
No fotos, they are stuck on my Colombia burner phone.

Third year in a row I maxed out my tourist visa, six months allowed, but never this early in the calendar year. You would think I would have organized myself to get a better visa by now, but once I land in Medellin, I start enjoying myself just too damn much to accomplish visa business. No one to blame but myself!

Wake up at 7 AM behind Scarlet and start dry humping her ass crack until I am hard.

Jump out of bed run over to Catgirl's side and test her "puta reflex". I put the tip of my dick on her sleeping lips and she reflexively starts sucking. My ex-wife had it. Catgirl has it. Lucky when you can find it.

I have a 9 AM appointment with GZGTG (Ground Zero Go-to-Girl). I Whassap her and tell I am not leaving my room until I hear from her.

Shower, shit, and shave.

I get a standing blowjob from Scarlet with her knees on a pillow.

9:05 AM, GZGTG says she's at the Ground Zero love motel waiting for me.

Scarlet leaves, she takes one of my bombillos I promised her weeks earlier, as a gift.

Catgirl says she will be gone by the time I return, but promises to come back later in the day. I make her pinky swear.

Walk over to Ground Zero. One hour session with GZGTG. Passionate. We both use a small amount of the pink shit, barely enough to feel it, I think more out of habit than anything. I pay her for the hour and gift her 250 mil COP as promised for the excellent service she gave me the final few weeks of my trip. No restrictions, three hole access, fotos, all bareback, the word "no" was not in her vocabulary. A steal. I started with her older sister, then moved to all three sisters, then just her. I shower my crotch after she leaves, no hot water, big fucking deal. We Whassap that we are each the other's favorites, jeje.

My Whassap is on fire. Pumpkin wants to meet me at the hotel and pick up her bombillo.

Catgirl messages me that she wants a bombillo, too. Catgirl is my Numero Uno. I thoroughly enjoy spoiling her. I tell her I will go buy her one.

I see Sugar Baby's older sister hanging out in the courtyard at Ground Zero. She looks really sad. I ask her what's wrong and she said she hasn't had a customer in three days. Believable, she's a little homely but with a smoking hot body. I slip her a cincuenta note. She follows me to where I sit down at the far end of the glass sidewalk. She strokes my hair for about three minutes. Feel the puta love. She walks away and within 30 seconds she is with a john, jajajaja, joke's on me, perhaps.

On the long walk to Gran Plaza to buy the bombillo, I stop by my favorite love motel to say goodbye to MarvelousMotelMaiden (MMM) who works there as a maid. She says she has to see me today but she doesn't get off work until 8 PM. Impossible, I tell her. I joke with her about going into a room right then and there and fucking her, knowing she can't, she's at work. She kisses me three times on the lips, the last time deep with tongue. I think she was starting to cry. I slipped her 100 mil COP.

MMM and I have something special started that I will share more about later. Suffice it to say for now I am only the second man in her life, after her husband was murdered by the cartel three years ago. Unreal and unexpected. There are always statistical outliers and not all these chicas are sexually experienced. And yet she was still a Number Five all-time, first sexual encounter. Mind blown.

Forty minutes to walk to Gran Plaza, get the bombillo, and return to my hotel room at The Nutti. I tell them at the hobby shop that I have sent them at least eight customers who bought bombillos, jajaja.

I get back to my room and Whassap Pumpkin because I promised to see her next and a bombillo weeks earlier. I message Freckle I will see her and the Little One after that at their motel across the street next.

I fill out my Migracion form on-line for my flight that night.

Catgirl messages me and asks me if I will exchange 900 USD for Colombian pesos for her Dominican Republic boyfriend. I tell her that's too much and I will do a third of that. I wasn't planning another trip to the ATM before I left.

Pumpkin arrives. She uses a tiny bit of pink shit. Her right pinky fashion fingernail got ripped off and I put hydrogen peroxide on it and watch it foam up. She shows off her new tennis shoes which I suppose you could say I bought for her since I have been her sole support for weeks. She asks for and gets a foot massage. I have been very good to Pumpkin this trip, paying her slightly above FMV (Fair Market Value) and more importantly, seeing her on a very regular basis, sometimes 3-4 times per week, usually booty calls in the middle of the night. That's one way to keep your daily average number of chicas up, jeje.

Freckle is livid when I tell her I am with Pumpkin and she is next. She doesn't like waiting. I snort some more pink shit while Pumpkin gives me a goodbye blowjob while I sit on the edge of my bed, her knees on a pillow. She gets me hard in less than a minute and I throw her face-up on the bed, ass hanging over the edge and start fucking her. I pull out and now it's my knees on the pillow eating her out front to back while holding her legs up in the air with both my arms. I call time after less than ten minutes and we both clean our crotches in the shower at the same time. I told her I loved her and she replied in kind.

Catgirl messages me from downstairs in the hotel at the restaurant while Pumpkin is still in the room. I think Catgirl does this as a courtesy knowing there's a good chance I am not alone. I hand Pumpkin her the bombillo and out the door she goes.

I go down at eat lunch with Catgirl and her brother on the first floor. Goes without saying, I am buying. Catgirl is going to a store to buy bed linens for herself and Scarlet, an arrangement I apparently agreed to at some point during the sex and drugs the night before, jajaja.

SoftSwirl from Bello messages me distraught that I am not seeing her today. She asks me for money. The reason she gives is she needs toilet paper because she has diarrhea, and for her son, for whom I am the godfather. Catgirl splits to go buy the bed linens for Scarlet. I return to my room and Remitly 300 mil into SoftSwirl's bank account.

I Whassap Freckle I am ready to see her and the Little One at their hotel. I tell her the truth that I was eating lunch with Catgirl and her brother and she calms down. My chicas know not to argue against My Numero Uno Novia. I find another less fancy bombillo I forgot I had in my closet and I take it with me to Freckle's hotel.

I drink my third sugar-free Monster Energy drink of the day, it is exactly 2 PM.

I walk across the street to the puta motel where Freckle and her roommate live. I gift Freckle and the Little One the bombillo, they love it, and start playing with it instantly. I am pretty high by now, been doing the pink shit steady all day. The chicas join in. Super loving, rolling around in bed, licking, hugging, both of them, no penetration, super love, super relaxed and comfortable, for about three hours. I try not to think about leaving, then sad. Freckle says we are linked forever and I agree. I tell her I hope she sticks with the Little One by her side. Kisses, good-bye. There aren't expecting any money but I give them each 100 mil COP.

Back to the Nutti. Catgirl and I have our first sexual session alone in weeks. Great stuff. A little bit of everything but she finishes me off with an old-fashioned which I love, while reaming my asshole with two fingers, her idea. She jokes at the end there is no shit on her fingers. I start packing. Scarlet shows up. Catgirl has the new bed linens for her.

Scarlet says she wants to give me a blowjob, she's excellent at it and I give her ten minutes. I shower and wash my hair. Scarlet plays with my hair for ten minutes once I am out of the shower. I bag a lot of stuff for Catgirl that I leave behind, as always I ditch before I leave and travel light. She loves the new bombillo.

Catgirl and Scarlet followed me downstairs for my taxi. At the last minute, on impulse I pulled them aside and gave them each 200 mil COP. I didn't add it up but I guess I gifted about a bit over one million COP on my last day to different chicas. More than worth it. I regretted not giving more pesos to MMM earlier.

MMM Whassaps me that she is going to wait for my return and not be with any other man. I believe her. She was alone for years before she met me and she is used to it, and we already told each other we are in love. She does not care how many other girlfriends I have, she says, and fully accepts Catgirl as my Numero Uno.

If we throw out my first five days when I was staying with Freckle and not fucking around, I averaged 4. 3 chicas per day this trip.

My taxi driver I met the day before shows up as promised at 9 PM. He has some good intel about an accident in the tunnel and we take the alternate route through San Diego. I checked in on-line earlier but they wouldn't give me my boarding passes. There is a new kiosk at the airport for printing boarding passes, not airline specific, works for all the airlines at the airport. The queue for checking in is huge and no one is at the kiosk. I step up to the kiosk and have my boarding passes within two minutes.

I am at the gate two hours early, jaja. I get pulled aside before boarding for a "designated TSA check" but I have nothing to hide other than a bunch of porn fotos I took on my phone and in my computer. They ask to see my computer but they don't turn it on. There is pink tussi dust all over it. They let me pass without a second thought. I board business class and I am asleep within ten minutes in a fairly comfortable seat before we even take-off.

Osteoknot
08-09-22, 02:26
I was thinking about buying a single function light here in the states and bringing it with me. My concern is that the bombillo speaker might not be much better than my phone speaker. I don't need to shake the walls or anything, but a bit more volume would be helpful. Amazon does have the light speaker combos as well.But not high fidelity, virtually no bass, but a definite upgrade compared to your phone, just based on size of the speaker. I was using a stand-alone Blue Tooth speaker and my bombillo, then I defaulted to just the bombillo because the bombillo speaker was as good as my stand-alone speaker. The chicas aren't picky, just as long as there is some music. They will use their own phone as a last resort. I bring a power strip with me because the electrical outlets in the love motels are often iffy, and the power strip serves as a base or stand for the bombillo, see fotos. Don't forget, you will need a socket adapter for the bombillo to plug it in, otherwise it has a screw in base like a regular light bulb. I bought my socket adapter for less $1 USD or it came with the bombillo.

My stand-alone speaker was the little orangey-mushroomy looking thing, next to the bombillo. The stand-alone sounded pretty clear, but the bombillo was much louder.

Osteoknot
08-09-22, 02:43
My mailbox is not full, they notify you when it reaches whatever capacity they allow."Surfer500 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

I call that "full". You can argue semantics and call it what you want (second eye roll of the day for you).

AdamWl
08-09-22, 03:02
Snagged myself another SW behind the church. Cuarenta mil / cuarenta min. Chica from Costa Rica. 19 yo from what she said.

After unpacking unfortunately more like 26+ from the neck down. Post-baby, just not a tight body. Some sag in the belly and titties. Damn, I need to get better at judging this on the street. Might start asking if they had children, just not sure yet how to segway to that smoothly. Short of squeezing their ass and tits I can't see how else to do it. Probably best look for chicas that are showing their bellies too.

She does look attractive, on the street and in the photos (if I'd be in FB game I'd surely try to arrange a date with her), the shape is exactly correct, slim waist and nice ass.

On the plus side, she has a very cute face, thick lips and great eyes. Those black magnetic eyes were the selling point for me on the street. From the moment of the first eye contact we didn't break it for a millisecond while discussing the details. No blinking, no squinting, wide open stare. Damn, those deep black eyes.

She was clearly aware of her saggy titties as kept the top on, then when I pulled it down, she kept them hidden in her hands for a while until she got comfortable.

After the shower I decided I want to shoot a souvenir video. It would cost me of course. For BBJ at the beginning, video of the session and BBJ with finish on her titties at the end (didn't want CIM) she asked 50 extra. I tried to negotiate down a bit but she didn't budge, though she didn't have the "take it or leave it" attitude but more "amor, don't you understand this is a very good price already? What is there really to think about, let me tell you again why this is worth it". Well, I did want to do it so just went for it, didn't really care about 10 mil this way or the other, negotiating more out of the principle and to create a little engagement and tension in lieu of flirting in Spanish.

Got some very good shots. Initially she did hide her face a bit but after a while just stopped and got absorbed.

I liked a lot that she continued staring into my eyes throughout the session, especially while sucking me off on her knees at the end. Quite good BJ skills, I might return just for a BJ session with the view of her face.

Deafcon
08-09-22, 03:30
But not high fidelity, virtually no bass, but a definite upgrade compared to your phone, just based on size of the speaker. I was using a stand-alone Blue Tooth speaker and my bombillo, then I defaulted to just the bombillo because the bombillo speaker was as good as my stand-alone speaker. The chicas aren't picky, just as long as there is some music. They will use their own phone as a last resort. I bring a power strip with me because the electrical outlets in the love motels are often iffy, and the power strip serves as a base or stand for the bombillo, see fotos. Don't forget, you will need a socket adapter for the bombillo to plug it in, otherwise it has a screw in base like a regular light bulb. I bought my socket adapter for less $1 USD or it came with the bombillo.

My stand-alone speaker was the little orangey-mushroomy looking thing, next to the bombillo. The stand-alone sounded pretty clear, but the bombillo was much louder.I'm not sure if this link will be edited or not, but this is what I'm planning to purchase here in the states: https://www.amazon.com/NEQUARE-Activated-Festival-Celebration-Birthday/dp/B08L9BJSFY/ If the link doesn't show, you can search amazon for nequare party light. It's 8 bucks and no adapter is required. I already have a stand alone bluetooth speaker that's inexpensive enough that I don't mind if it doesn't come home, but I'm confident has better sound than a bombillo. I already use it as an external speaker for my laptop.

Osteoknot
08-09-22, 04:30
Thanks Nounce, USB cable transfer worked!

Fun Luvr
08-09-22, 04:34
You did mention dick pills, which definitely should be added to my list. I need to RTFF about if these are easily accessible in country, or if I should bring my own.Generic viagra is available in any pharmacy in Medellin, much cheaper than in the US.

Deafcon
08-09-22, 05:01
Generic viagra is available in any pharmacy in Medellin, much cheaper than in the US.I found out that they're available on Rappi and have gone down something of a rabbit hole just browsing what's available on that app. I can grab a z-pack "just in case". Beer seems to be shockingly cheap.

JjBee62
08-09-22, 07:28
A friend owns a successful business in El Poblado. Guess where he lives? El Centro. When he gave me a tour, where did he take me? El Centro. Even at night time, he took me to a place that is off the beaten path. It's a mistake to think everyone thinks the same way. El Poblado has the best of certain things, but not everything.Overall good advice.

One thing I always do is put all liquids in a zip lock bag. I bring some good shampoo and some nice scented shower gel. The girls love it.

PolloNegro
08-09-22, 08:52
Back in Medellin, here for a month and if anyone needs help or a wingman in Parque Botero, hit me up. Pollo Negro is out!

JjBee62
08-09-22, 09:07
I appreciate the through response. This is my first trip to Colombia, but not my first trip internationally. I have limited Spanish skills, but certainly more than none. I'm also familiar with translate and offline maps. I'm from the states, so I don't believe power adapters are necessary. All great advice for someone completely green.

I've always had drinks available in my room, but not snacks. I've also never provided gifts in the past either. However, I'm looking for any edge I can get for something other than mechanical service. I've learned that money alone can't do that. If trying to establish a connection in other ways might work, I'm willing to try. Just trying to find info about what people find works for their purposes and what doesn't.

I'd rather buy a light and pack it with me from the states than waste time purchasing one in country. I do have a bluetooth speaker on my list. Notice I've got a few different tabs in the spreadsheet in the screenshot. You did mention dick pills, which definitely should be added to my list. I need to RTFF about if these are easily accessible in country, or if I should bring my own.I have a prescription for ED pills, so I bring mine with me, along with an empty bottle, which I refill locally since it's cheaper.

Capt Spaz
08-09-22, 15:12
Generic viagra is available in any pharmacy in Medellin, much cheaper than in the US.Cialis, too. I've heard good things about 'Lysto Spray' - a spray form of sildenafil (I think) that is supposed to work quicker. But never seen or tried it.

JjBee62
08-09-22, 15:58
Yikes, are you going to start sending me love letters now. LOL.

My mailbox is not full, they notify you when it reaches whatever capacity they allow.No. They don't. If you're using default settings every message you send is kept in the sent folder. You should probably empty that.

Osteoknot
08-09-22, 16:26
Hi everyone! I've really tried and searched and went on myself. But still the question remains to them: how do you finde before humans the nice, hot and lovely Medellin chicas who are willing to meet and have sex or just dinner for money or no money? I've tried Facebook ahead myself but it's very complicated to find Medellin girls who are real and not fake webcam profiles or just webcam girls who are not interested in physical meetings.

I do speak Spanish so it's not a problem for me to communicate.

But what would you a soon to visit mid 30 handsome Caucasian recommend to get in contact with girls beforehand and where to start? I've really tried but it's very unsatisfying. Thanks for all suggestions! And anyone up for a real meeting and a drink to teach the young padawan the way of the force in September?I know what you meant and I feel you were just using the word "desperate' as a figure of speech. But dude, you are so far ahead of the game compared to the average first timer. Mid 30's, good-looking, Caucasian, and fluent in Spanish? If you're blonde haired and blue eyed then fuck you and the horse you rode in on, jajajajaja.

Come on. Medellin is your oyster and you are the pearl. I get it, you have niche' tastes but even so.

Not saying you won't find yourself a nice wingman, but don't expect a lot of sympathy here, jajaja. Most of us remember what is was like for us when we first arrived, and we had to grind it out the best we could. Best of luck, you don't need much.

Oh, to answer your question more directly, pick any chica that attracts you and go up and start talking to her, anywhere, anytime. A nice pool is chicas who are at work, then they won't be as desperate for money. They won't be offended. Government workers, waitresses, policewomen, store clerks, bartenders, any gainful employment. You have a majority chance that she will engage, then go out with you for dinner, then fuck you that night. Tell them you are new in town and you would like someone to show you around, go to Park Avri, recommend a good restaurant, blah, blah, you can recite Mary had a Little Lamb and they will still want to go out with you.

Leave fear of failure at home. If a chica doesn't respond the way you like, forget about her, totally and immediately move on to the next one. Dating here is like shooting fish in a barrel. If she says she's married that is not an automatic "no" , she might still want to fuck but is just making you aware. Then it depends on your scruples. Personally, I avoid the potential complications of fucking married women, but that's your call.

If you are walking out in public and you literally see a single chica on the sidewalk you must have, introduce yourself and ask her, "Quieres ser mi novia por 2 horas if?" or does she wants to be your girlfriend for _ hours (fill in the number). If she say yes, act immediately if possible to reduce the chance you will get flaked if she wants to meet you somewhere else later. You're welcome.

My prototype chica is working student, single, one-kid delivered by Cesarean-section, with mom at home. That chica has an income but will still be highly motivated to raise the standard of living for her kid. She has some intelligence and goals in life. Her pussy hasn't been stretched out from childbirth, and she has built in child-care. But that's just me. Ostee Out.

JjBee62
08-09-22, 16:48
This doesn't mean shit. He probably took you on a tour to El Centro just because he lives there and wanted to show you around, or perhaps, got tired of hanging out in El Poblado. Besides much lower cost of living and proximity to street action and casas, I see no other reasons to be living in El Centro, especially, if one is financially successful. I guess, he has his own motives of doing so, but objectively speaking, El Pobaldo beats El Centro in every major aspect that is important to a monger from a developed country. If you disagree with my prior statement regarding the restaurants, nightlife, malls, etc then give us a favor and explain why El Centro is the place to be.Which monger? You say "Objectively speaking, El Poblado beats El Centro in every major aspect that is important to a monger from a developed country."

Now, if you had said "subjectively speaking" then your statement would almost certainly be correct, with you being the monger. However, as written, your statement can only be correct if all mongers from developed countries agree on every major aspect which is important.

Another way to see it is to imagine there's a SuperMonger, some ideal mongering specimen who is the envy and role model of every monger. If such a pinnacle of putaology existed, then his mongering opinions might well be the objective standard.

All it takes is 5 minutes reading this forum and anyone can see that objectively your statement is false. Even something as basic as which bank's ATM to use can't be agreed upon. Some guys think that the Marriott is the best place to stay, others insist on San Peter Apartments.

Even something you said in a previous post is wrong. You said the best malls are in El Poblado, but the best mall is in Envigado.

What you should have said was that for you El Poblado is the best.

For people willing to step out of the El Poblado cocoon, there is a great deal more to experience in Medellin.

The best burgers (according to the last competition I saw results for) are in Envigado. The best love motel is in Itagui. The best clothes shopping and furniture shopping is also in Itagui, except for mattresses. You should go to Laureles for that, where you can watch them being handmade. The best place to walk (a form of exercise many of us enjoy) is debatable, except it's definitely not El Poblado.

I enjoy luxury. I also enjoy a bargain. For 250 k per night, under $60, I can get a hotel, not in El Poblado, which matches or exceeds almost any $200-$300 hotel in Medellin. As a bonus, it's a short walk to the best mall in Medellin, easily accessible to the metro, is extremely quiet and has a wonderful staff.

I love good food. Provenza is great when you want to celebrate and don't care about the cost. However, there are many little hole in the wall places, with fantastic food at a price which is ridiculously low. Laureles is full of them, but they can be found all over the city.

There's a lot more to the world once you step outside of your comfort zone.

Surfer500
08-09-22, 18:09
"Surfer500 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

I call that "full". You can argue semantics and call it what you want (second eye roll of the day for you).I have a total of nine stored messages, and have no idea where your coming up with that I can no longer accept further messages.

Hardly full, but if you consider it full, than I won't be able to receive any more personal messages from you, not that I want to, as the ones from you in the past were not pleasant.

And I'm perplexed as to why you posted for me to empty my mailbox to begin with, but this shouldn't matter, as you believe I have maxed out my stored private message quota.

Osteoknot
08-09-22, 18:37
I have a total of nine stored messages, and have no idea where your coming up with that I can no longer accept further messages.

Hardly full, but if you consider it full, than I won't be able to receive any more personal messages from you, not that I want to, as the ones from you in the past were not pleasant.

And I'm perplexed as to why you posted for me to empty my mailbox to begin with, but this shouldn't matter, as you believe I have maxed out my stored private message quota.I have tried three times to send you a Private Message and they won't go thru. The error message that I already quoted you pops up instead in my PM page. "Surfer500 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

Forget it, I forgot what I was messaging you about, anyway, jajaja.

You do realize it's the total number of your stored messages, not just the ones in your Inbox, right? I don't need an answer. If we are both correct, then it's a system glitch. Ostee Out.

Deafcon
08-09-22, 18:49
I have a total of nine stored messages, and have no idea where your coming up with that I can no longer accept further messages.

Hardly full, but if you consider it full, than I won't be able to receive any more personal messages from you, not that I want to, as the ones from you in the past were not pleasant.

And I'm perplexed as to why you posted for me to empty my mailbox to begin with, but this shouldn't matter, as you believe I have maxed out my stored private message quota.Hey Surfer,

I've got no history with either yourself or Osteo. I tried sending you a message and got the same error. You might want to contact ISG staff to see if something is wrong.

Villainy
08-09-22, 18:56
Oh, to answer your question more directly, pick any chica that attracts you and go up and start talking to her, anywhere, anytime. A nice pool is chicas who are at work, then they won't be as desperate for money. They won't be offended. Government workers, waitresses, policewomen, store clerks, bartenders, any gainful employment. You have a majority chance that she will engage, then go out with you for dinner, then fuck you that night. Tell them you are new in town and you would like someone to show you around, go to Park Avri, recommend a good restaurant, blah, blah, you can recite Mary had a Little Lamb and they will still want to go out with you.

Leave fear of failure at home. If a chica doesn't respond the way you like, forget about her, totally and immediately move on to the next one. Dating here is like shooting fish in a barrel. If she says she's married that is not an automatic "no" , she might still want to fuck but is just making you aware. Then it depends on your scruples. Personally, I avoid the potential complications of fucking married women, but that's your call.

If you are walking out in public and you literally see a single chica on the sidewalk you must have, introduce yourself and ask her, "Quieres ser mi novia por 2 horas if?" or does she wants to be your girlfriend for _ hours (fill in the number)..Do I agree with everything Ostee just wrote? No. But there is an amazing amount of wisdom encapsulated in his response. Speaking from experience.

1 restaurant worker, 3 maids, 1 nurse, 1 office worker and I have several more numbers I haven't completely explored yet. Oh and I'm in my 60's and although not gross looking, no one mistakes me for Robert Redford either. Age has no significance in the equation.

Just remember this. Which is the essence of Ostee's wisdom. Many working women are earning minimum wage (or there about). Sex is nothing to them, they have been having sex since they were barely teenagers. Money is rare. Very few of their friends or acquaintances have any to spare. So in their mind they are trading something of NO value for something that is rare.

The only caveat, is that you don't want to make it too direct. They have self-respect, they are not "prostitutes" they have a real job and can make it without having to compromise their values. But if you couch the proposition in a friendly way you will have no problem scoring with any number of hot little paisas.

What do I mean? Tell them you're here and sometimes you get a little bored and would like some intimate adult company. Tell them you are friendly, and generous. They will likely ask what that generous part means. You tell them that naturally you would like to reward them for their friendly company but since you don't know them well, instead of buying them a present you would like to give them some money (tell them how much. 200 mil, 250 mil whatever you think might tempt them) and then they can buy a gift that they really like and just remember that it was from you. Works like a charm. They see this as a respectful offer that doesn't make them lose self-esteem and doesn't brand them.

MongerHunger
08-09-22, 19:29
Anyone interested, for 89 k you can be picked up on La 70 near the Estadio Metro Station and taken to Guatap. It's an all day tour that includes breakfast and lunch. Boat ride on the lake, visit to the rock, tour of Guatap city and Penol. It can be an inexpensive date with a chica. It's a good experience and worth it.

Surfer500
08-09-22, 20:10
No. They don't. If you're using default settings every message you send is kept in the sent folder. You should probably empty that.Just checked again, I have 90 sent messages, and there's a limit of 200 as posted, which I recall a few years back getting a message from ISG that I had exceeded my limit which I was referring to in my post, and perhaps they have changed things in the past few years not notifying you anymore, regardless, I'm deleting everything in my inbox and sent boxes, so anybody who wants to send me a "nastygram" can now do so. LOL.

Unless of course there is a glitch as mentioned by Ostee, which may be the case.

Osteoknot
08-09-22, 20:12
There's a lot more to the world once you step outside of your comfort zone.I have made that a habit, and the rewards have been great though not without some risks. In my observation, most people do not venture much outside their comfort zone, if at all. They stay deeply entrenched in their comfort zone or the "box" they constructed for themselves in which to live.

I get that approach, easy to understand, safe, "comfortable", their sense of self does not get challenged, secure.

For me, that is boring, stale, I would rather be dead. In fact, I can spot those people above in a second. All you have to do is look at their face and they have "dead eyes". No sparkle, no life, they "settled" and accepted their lot in life a long time ago. I don't have any friends like that because they also tend to be very boring. I am not saying they can't be happy. They have a ton of like-company.

BTW, Medellin is the most fun place I have ever been to "step outside your comfort zone" and this ain't my first rodeo. Fuck, but don't do it unless you have good street sense and intuition or the risk / reward ratio will be too high. I guess there are some good safety reasons why some people shouldn't venture outside their box.

Some more fotos from my last day in Medellin that didn't make the first cut, jeje. Thanks again, Nounce for the USB cable hack. The puppy belongs to Freckle and the Little One inside Puta Motel, and they named it Tussi, jajajaja. Feel the Love. I threw in a foto of MMM (MarvelousMotelMaiden) who Villainy named and what a great name it is. That is her standing in my room at The Nutti putting her hair up, 7th foto, and technically not from my last day, but the last time I fucked her. I am attempting to show how fucking cute and hot she is. The final foto is a repeat worth reviewing of MMM's world-class ass, probably the best rear in my current line-up. Fuckin' Vennies win every time. Vennies and Paisas. Sigh. Drool. Jack-off. Jajajaja.

Recondite
08-09-22, 20:52
I'd second the comment on the ground game. It's shooting fish in a barrel in Colombia. One of my first pieces of business last trip was getting a simcard at tigo in Unicentro Mall. Long story short the blue eyed German looking tigo rep from Bogota ended up coming on to me and giving me her number. I ended up deciding not to go out with her as she was too old (32 yikes) and seemed too needy (she saw me walking to the Exito in the mall and asked why I didn't stop at her store to say Hi in a message). I've definitely gotten interested vibes interacting with women working in multiple settings. Another funny one was the airline rep checking me in at Rio Negro when I was leaving in March. Should have gotten her number for the next trip. I think if you are half decent looking and just sit outside at a table in Medellin you'll end up with options. But of course being proactive is always best and good Spanish makes a world of difference. I'm definitely thinking of more actively pursuing the ground game next time I come especially if its for a longer time.


I know what you meant and I feel you were just using the word "desperate' as a figure of speech. But dude, you are so far ahead of the game compared to the average first timer. Mid 30's, good-looking, Caucasian, and fluent in Spanish? If you're blonde haired and blue eyed then fuck you and the horse you rode in on, jajajajaja.

Come on. Medellin is your oyster and you are the pearl. I get it, you have niche' tastes but even so.

Not saying you won't find yourself a nice wingman, but don't expect a lot of sympathy here, jajaja. Most of us remember what is was like for us when we first arrived, and we had to grind it out the best we could. Best of luck, you don't need much.

Lefeu
08-09-22, 21:38
Cialis, too. I've heard good things about 'Lysto Spray' - a spray form of sildenafil (I think) that is supposed to work quicker. But never seen or tried it.I have tried Lysto and got poor results, unlike Viagra or Cialis. However, it is relatively inexpensive and can be found at practically any pharmacy.

I am still wondering whether I don't know how to use it. But, I plan to keep trying, as I usually use it as a reinforcement to Viagra, which I take early morning. At my age, I found that Viagra does not last that long.

Oterri
08-09-22, 21:59
Thanks for sharing your reports. They are a big help to understand centro scene.

One thing I wonder about is do you just get plain penetration for the low price the girls quote initially and then upsell for letting you such their titties, kiss them, 69 etc?

Or is it better to lay down the expectations of what you need for a set price?


Snagged myself another SW behind the church. Cuarenta mil / cuarenta min. Chica from Costa Rica. 19 yo from what she said.

After unpacking unfortunately more like 26+ from the neck down. Post-baby, just not a tight body. Some sag in the belly and titties. Damn, I need to get better at judging this on the street. Might start asking if they had children, just not sure yet how to segway to that smoothly. Short of squeezing their ass and tits I can't see how else to do it. Probably best look for chicas that are showing their bellies too.

She does look attractive, on the street and in the photos (if I'd be in FB game I'd surely try to arrange a date with her), the shape is exactly correct, slim waist and nice ass.

On the plus side, she has a very cute face, thick lips and great eyes. Those black magnetic eyes were the selling point for me on the street. From the moment of the first eye contact we didn't break it for a millisecond while discussing the details. No blinking, no squinting, wide open stare. Damn, those deep black eyes.

MiamiBoy1
08-10-22, 00:24
Which monger? You say "Objectively speaking, El Poblado beats El Centro in every major aspect that is important to a monger from a developed country."

Now, if you had said "subjectively speaking" then your statement would almost certainly be correct, with you being the monger. However, as written, your statement can only be correct if all mongers from developed countries agree on every major aspect which is important.

Another way to see it is to imagine there's a SuperMonger, some ideal mongering specimen who is the envy and role model of every monger. If such a pinnacle of putaology existed, then his mongering opinions might well be the objective standard.

All it takes is 5 minutes reading this forum and anyone can see that objectively your statement is false. Even something as basic as which bank's ATM to use can't be agreed upon. Some guys think that the Marriott is the best place to stay, others insist on San Peter Apartments.

Even something you said in a previous post is wrong. You said the best malls are in El Poblado, but the best mall is in Envigado.

What you should have said was that for you El Poblado is the best.

For people willing to step out of the El Poblado cocoon, there is a great deal more to experience in Medellin.

The best burgers (according to the last competition I saw results for) are in Envigado. The best love motel is in Itagui. The best clothes shopping and furniture shopping is also in Itagui, except for mattresses. You should go to Laureles for that, where you can watch them being handmade. The best place to walk (a form of exercise many of us enjoy) is debatable, except it's definitely not El Poblado.

I enjoy luxury. I also enjoy a bargain. For 250 k per night, under $60, I can get a hotel, not in El Poblado, which matches or exceeds almost any $200-$300 hotel in Medellin. As a bonus, it's a short walk to the best mall in Medellin, easily accessible to the metro, is extremely quiet and has a wonderful staff.

I love good food. Provenza is great when you want to celebrate and don't care about the cost. However, there are many little hole in the wall places, with fantastic food at a price which is ridiculously low. Laureles is full of them, but they can be found all over the city.

There's a lot more to the world once you step outside of your comfort zone.Hey,

I'm not promoting any specific neighborhood. I was merely stating the obvious. El Poblado has been the most popular neighborhood among mongers due to combination of factors that I have previously mentioned. Whether you like it or not. The vast majority of mongers and non-mongers will keep staying there because of everything that El Poblado has to offer. Do you think guys who come to MDE care about furniture shopping? Or handmade mattresses? LOL Give me a break. As far as shopping malls go, all the local girls that I met were in agreement that El Tesoro mall is the best one in Medellin, and I totally agree with them. The views are incredible, dining options are great, the movie theater offers selected movies with English subtitles. BTW, since 2020 I have been staying in Laureles, because it is walkable and I love walking vs ubering to places. Laureles is slightly cheaper and is closer to where most of my chicas live, the logistics is so much easier. But I still love El Poblado, and will definitely be back once I get bored in Laureles.

Osteoknot
08-10-22, 00:27
Do I agree with everything Ostee just wrote? No. But there is an amazing amount of wisdom encapsulated in his response. Speaking from experience.

1 restaurant worker, 3 maids, 1 nurse, 1 office worker and I have several more numbers I haven't completely explored yet. Oh and I'm in my 60's and although not gross looking, no one mistakes me for Robert Redford either. Age has no significance in the equation.

Just remember this. Which is the essence of Ostee's wisdom. Many working women are earning minimum wage (or there about). Sex is nothing to them, they have been having sex since they were barely teenagers. Money is rare. Very few of their friends or acquaintances have any to spare. So in their mind they are trading something of NO value for something that is rare..Jajaja, not important. Thanks for the compliments. We are on the same wavelength. I think you may have been referencing that I made getting with the chicas perhaps sound too direct and easy when I used phrases like "shooting fish" and "Mary's Lamb" and my "Quieres ser mi novia"? That last question is realistic and has been field tested, but I am only talking about when you have one quick shot at a chica who you may never see again. "Nothing ventured, nothing gained", and delivery is everything. I say it in a playful manner and have never seen a chica offended by it yet.

You know me and you know I am all about respecting the chicas and not degrading them in any way, other than some of them seem to really enjoy a little fun degradation in the sex play. I didn't stop dating in the US of A because I can't or don't know how. I just don't have the tolerance for the bullshit anymore. Medellin "ruined" me, and to quote The Great One, "How sweet it is."

Don't forget, my "three-strike" rule for number of dates before fucking was for here in the US of A, not Medellin, and 90 percent of the time I was there in two.

No one bats a thousand, but a 333 slugger percentage when you are aiming for home runs is phenomenal, realistic, and achievable in Medellin, assuming your selection process makes some sense and is grounded somewhat in reality, jeje. You can't say to your gorgeous female Colombian doctor at the end of a professional visit, "Let's fuck."

How's this? I agree with everything you wrote, truthfully.

MiamiBoy1
08-10-22, 00:38
I am from a developed country known as the US of A or Pussy Prison. I avoid Poblado because it reminds me of the US of A.

I love El Centro, which has everything I need at reasonable prices. I know a lot of guys like me, too. I read about a lot of guys here who avoid El Centro and stick to Poblado. Can't say I have met too many of them. I get where they are coming from. I have noticed a lot of them are not from the US of A which somewhat explains the appeal to them and not for me. Poblado is like the entertainment district of any major city in the US of A, with the added attraction that you are guaranteed to get laid. I simply don't need the reminder of all those entertainment districts I have been to in the 46 different states I have visited or lived in the US of A. I focus on the getting laid part, and I have no problem finding chicas that suit my taste, including ones that a majority of guys would agree are very physically attractive in El Centro. We are from the same country, however Poblado does not remind me of the USA. Yeah, I see few gringos here and there, I hear american rap or pop music here and there, but that's about it. Would you stick to Poblado if it did not remind you of USA? I doubt it. The reason you stick to El Centro is because you can average 4. 3 chicas per day, which would be impossible in Poblado. You step out of Nutti, and there are plenty of girls you can grab. Plenty of love motels around. Rates are cheap. This is the environment you are comfortable with, it fits your needs.

Osteoknot
08-10-22, 00:54
We are from the same country, however Poblado does not remind me of the USA. Yeah, I see few gringos here and there, I hear american rap or pop music here and there, but that's about it. Would you stick to Poblado if it did not remind you of USA? I doubt it. The reason you stick to El Centro is because you can average 4. 3 chicas per day, which would be impossible in Poblado. You step out of Nutti, and there are plenty of girls you can grab. Plenty of love motels around. Rates are cheap. This is the environment you are comfortable with, it fits your needs.Myself (yes, I have a serious side), Nounce, and JujuBee. You do you and I will beg off this thread. I think it is important to you to have the last word.

GauntMan
08-10-22, 01:01
I have tried Lysto and got poor results, unlike Viagra or Cialis. However, it is relatively inexpensive and can be found at practically any pharmacy.

I am still wondering whether I don't know how to use it. But, I plan to keep trying, as I usually use it as a reinforcement to Viagra, which I take early morning. At my age, I found that Viagra does not last that long.J have to give my vote of confidence to cialis or as the generic name is, Tadalafil. Popped one Tadalafil 20 MG Saturday before miy flight around 10 am, my flight was due at 1240 pm so I gave it full time to kick in. Cialis kept me ready for action the whole Saturday evening and throughout Sunday.

AdamWl
08-10-22, 01:13
SW2 messaged me on FB early morning from her sister's phone and FB account. Amor this and that and I asked if she wants to meet today. She said she won't be working el Centro today but Poblado and leaving soon, but she can meet me in my place if I want. I didn't nor had the time to arrange alternatives so I said maybe another day, once you're back in el Centro (which is tomorrow apparently).

Did a lap around el Centro later. Halfway through I bumped in a SW with witch I exchanged some looks and light touches yesterday. I considered her for today but wanted to finish the lap to see the line-up. After couple seconds I realized she walks right beside me and talks to me. I stopped for closer look. OK, not bad. Pleasant, nice vibe. I decided to touch her a bit around the waist softly to verify the body. OK, not bad at all.

Average face though. But since I did like her vibe and she clearly was in need of a client, I asked how much. 30 mil. Well, vamos!

Paisa. She said she was 21 and does have a daughter. Strangely she wasn't saggy at all, so I don't know what's the rule here. Her tits were great too, bouncy, heavy, just ripe. Didn't notice any boob job marks. She did have couple extra pounds but nothing that would discourage me.

I really liked her vibe. We did some cuddling then DFK. The she just proceeded with bareback BJ on her own initiative. Asked if I can take some photos for a propina, she agreed. We fucked. She was very engaged, continued with eye contact and kissing. Slapped my face lightly which I liked a little bit.

After a while I was spent, she as well. We rested a bit, then I asked her to give me BJ again. She removed the condom and went to work. OK, enough. I laid her down to get some good shots. She opened her pussy, then started masturbating. I helped. What a nice ripe pussy she had. Couldn't help myself and started eating her out. Then I put her on all four for some more photos and dining. I asked if I can go in raw. She thought for a split second then agreed. Doggy, missionary. Almost came. I didn't expect to pop in this session due to my busy schedule lately. Some more slow grinding and I called it quits since I was planning try one more chica today. She wouldn't have it and asked me to fuck her from behind standing next to the mirror. Again, I came close. OK amor, bien, leche manana. We kissed some more, took a shower together, I shared my Lysterine with her and gave a trident gum. Exchanged WhatsApp. I gave her 60 mil and she seemed satisfied. Definitely a repeat. Now I kind of feel I should've given more for such a great session. Well, not to worry, I'll just meet with her again soon.

After a coffee decided to make another lap. Saw a flat bellied Vennie hanging around in Botero Park.

Approached her for closer look. I didn't care for her face too much, but what's more important, I didn't like her vibe, somewhat cold and disinterested. Maybe not her day today, perhaps another time. She said she's 22. We exchanged WhatsApp and she sent me a kissing emoji.

Continued with the lap. Saw a nice petite chica propping the wall on the cl52/ cr53 corner. She said she was 21 and was ready to pull out a cedula. OK. Quanto por media hora? I just wanted a test drive. Cien. Hmm cien. Cien. What the hell is cien? Went through the numbers in my head again. There is no cien. Hold on. Cien. No. Can it be? Yes! It's bloody 100 mil. MI AMOR! Es muy caro. Cinqenta. She puffed her lips and shook her head in indignation. I chuckled enjoying the act. Paused for a bit to see if she was just playing with me but looked like she was serious on the pricing. Bien, hasta luego amor.

Bumped into SW3, we exchanged smiles but I was done for today.

On the way back I saw a prepago midget girl hanging around Parque Berrio stairs.

AdamWl
08-10-22, 01:45
Thanks for sharing your reports. They are a big help to understand centro scene.

One thing I wonder about is do you just get plain penetration for the low price the girls quote initially and then upsell for letting you such their titties, kiss them, 69 etc?

Or is it better to lay down the expectations of what you need for a set price?Thanks, I'm glad you find it helpful. I'm certainly not an el Centro expert (aka rat), just beginning to discover it lately. I usually don't negotiate it in such detail and just play it by the ear and go with the flow adjusting on the spot. Sometimes I ask beforehand for bareback BJ and sometimes, if I like the girl more than expected, I ask for it the room. There is a charge for that, between 20 and 40 usually but some of the girls could just do it for an unspecified amount of 'propina' I suppose. Sometimes it's easier for a girl to decide whether they'll do it or not if they have the dick in front their face and can examine it. Didn't have any girl asking extra for kissing them on the body. DFK is another story and not every girl will want to do that, but I don't ask for it, I just kiss them if I like them and the moment is right (treat them just like girlfriends). If they like it and kiss back-great, if not, I don't worry about it. I find the DFK is generally much easier to get on a repeated session.

It's probably better to agree on all the details before the sale / going to the room if you're certain what you want and require, to avoid any time wasting, confusion and mood killing upstairs. Plus the pricing will probably better too since your negotiating position is better.

AdamWl
08-10-22, 03:03
I am still wondering whether I don't know how to use it. .The recommended dose is 2 sprays under your tongue, before sexual activity works in 3-5 minutes.

Hold the medication under your tongue for 30 to 60 seconds. Do not spit out the medication or rinse your mouth.

Lysto is sold as 18.38mg/20ml metered spray pump. Each spray dispenses 0.68ml, which gives 12.5mg per spray. The dose could be adjusted based on the strength you are comfortable with.

https://www.lystospray.com/index.php/faqs

Also, remember to give the bottle a good shake.

Surfer500
08-10-22, 03:32
Hey Surfer,

I've got no history with either yourself or Osteo. I tried sending you a message and got the same error. You might want to contact ISG staff to see if something is wrong.I think things are working normally now, I just got a love letter from Osteo.

RacShack
08-10-22, 03:57
The recommended dose is 2 sprays under your tongue, before sexual activity works in 3-5 minutes.

Hold the medication under your tongue for 30 to 60 seconds. Do not spit out the medication or rinse your mouth.

Lysto is sold as 18.38mg/20ml metered spray pump. Each spray dispenses 0.68ml, which gives 12.5mg per spray. The dose could be adjusted based on the strength you are comfortable with.

https://www.lystospray.com/index.php/faqs

Also, remember to give the bottle a good shake.That link says to buy its $149.00 US dollars, is it way cheaper in Colombia? Like "everything" else LOL!

Hannibal86
08-10-22, 05:02
I enjoy luxury. I also enjoy a bargain. For 250 k per night, under $60, I can get a hotel, not in El Poblado, which matches or exceeds almost any $200-$300 hotel in Medellin. As a bonus, it's a short walk to the best mall in Medellin, easily accessible to the metro, is extremely quiet and has a wonderful staff.
Are you willing to share the hotel name?

Nounce
08-10-22, 07:55
That link says to buy its $149.00 US dollars, is it way cheaper in Colombia? Like "everything" else LOL!I remember that it does not cost more than US $ 25 in Botero Plaza.

Nounce
08-10-22, 08:02
... The reason you stick to El Centro is because you can average 4. 3 chicas per day, which would be impossible in Poblado. ...When I first met Osteo, I had two pineapples that I bought in my backpack and I walked to El Centro and back. I did not go there to monger. It's a more interesting area to me.

AlphaLife001
08-10-22, 08:28
Osteo. I love your answer and thanks a lot.

In general I think this men deserves an honor badge or whatever here for his contributions and opinions and tips and insights. You're legendary and it would be an honor to strive through Medellin one day with you.

And I'm 100% with you and I'the stay away from the married. I'm not eager to get into any unnecessary problems as well.

So what I've done so far is adding some pretty stunning girls who say they live in Medellin and from there I went, adding others from their friend lists. About 75% accepted my requests. But apparently most of them claim to work as webcam girls or just sell content via Facebook. But apparently, many profiles are fake because they either don't sent most recent pictures as they are now or audios. That's already a red flag. I got one absolute stunner. A 11 out of 10 to send me her real pictures and she did send something. 11 became a 6 or maybe a 5 : the: the.

And surprisingly all of them are always doing so bad. Bad day, lots of expenses, bad business. They asked me for money for: Rent, Hairdresser, Bustickets, shampoo, and tuition for university. But actually, as I've met Colombians with some income, they are normally never that easy on asking others for money but appreciate some independence. Venezuelans have been different. But it's surprising, how easily you apparently can wire transfer money in Colombia. However without being 100% sure, I'm not spending a dime but I tell them: see, you could be anyone, proof me that you really are who you claim to be. Must of them already have a problem with that and moreover: I can highly recommend the picture reverse search with Google. Here you can sometimes easily see, where pictures we're stolen from.

All in all I would describe my Facebook contacts at the moment as probably 80% fake. It's not that hard to get phone numbers from the girls and start conversations. But I guess the best advice is was Osteo just said: maybe just approach a girl. I've never considered doing that because I generally just don't approach strangers and start talking to them. But I guess Medellin is just different and I guess with a little charm, a lot of doors open.

Most promising FB-contact seems at the moment a sweet 27 year young student who also sells content. Even had a call with her yesterday. Let's see, where that leads to. Still need to see / verify her pictures but she is really sweet (and doing so bad as well.).

I got my current contacts all from an app called TANDEM which I've been using like 5 years. It's basically a language learning app, used from all around the world. I've met about 15 girls from that app. I got one in Brasil, São Paulo who I've met 3 times for 2 weeks each. I wasn't ever paying anything for "services" and those Brazilians love BBBJ until the end. She is just a serious girl, probably a 8/10. Got another (lawyer) in Recife who I have to meet next. Incredibly sweet. Some Mexicans and Colombians and the Venezuelana I'm set to meet when I arrive in Colombia soon. The contacts there are nearly all pretty serious, normal working girls, moms and such.

One Colombian (she is 40), who is actually a prostitute in Spain for like 10 years, said to me once: "the horniest of all Latinas are Brazilians and Venezuelans, followed by Colombians".


I know what you meant and I feel you were just using the word "desperate' as a figure of speech. But dude, you are so far ahead of the game compared to the average first timer. Mid 30's, good-looking, Caucasian, and fluent in Spanish? If you're blonde haired and blue eyed then fuck you and the horse you rode in on, jajajajaja.

Come on. Medellin is your oyster and you are the pearl. I get it, you have niche' tastes but even so.

Not saying you won't find yourself a nice wingman, but don't expect a lot of sympathy here, jajaja. Most of us remember what is was like for us when we first arrived, and we had to grind it out the best we could. Best of luck, you don't need much.

Oh, to answer your question more directly, pick any chica that attracts you and go up and start talking to her, anywhere, anytime. A nice pool is chicas who are at work, then they won't be as desperate for money. They won't be offended. Government workers, waitresses, policewomen, store clerks, bartenders, any gainful employment. You have a majority chance that she will engage, then go out with you for dinner, then fuck you that night. Tell them you are new in town and you would like someone to show you around, go to Park Avri, recommend a good restaurant, blah, blah, you can recite Mary had a Little Lamb and they will still want to go out with you.

Leave fear of failure at home. If a chica doesn't respond the way you like, forget about her, totally and immediately move on to the next one. Dating here is like shooting fish in a barrel. If she says she's married that is not an automatic "no" , she might still want to fuck but is just making you aware. Then it depends on your scruples. Personally, I avoid the potential complications of fucking married women, but that's your call.

If you are walking out in public and you literally see a single chica on the sidewalk you must have, introduce yourself and ask her, "Quieres ser mi novia por 2 horas if?" or does she wants to be your girlfriend for _ hours (fill in the number). If she say yes, act immediately if possible to reduce the chance you will get flaked if she wants to meet you somewhere else later. You're welcome.

My prototype chica is working student, single, one-kid delivered by Cesarean-section, with mom at home. That chica has an income but will still be highly motivated to raise the standard of living for her kid. She has some intelligence and goals in life. Her pussy hasn't been stretched out from childbirth, and she has built in child-care. But that's just me. Ostee Out.

AdamWl
08-10-22, 11:53
That link says to buy its $149.00 US dollars, is it way cheaper in Colombia? Like "everything" else LOL!


I remember that it does not cost more than US $ 25 in Botero Plaza.I believie I paid aroud 40 mil for it in a pharmacy at entrace to Veracruz Centro Commercial (opposite of Tostao), tried one around San Antonio station but they didn't have it. It's on rappi as well.

Surfer500
08-10-22, 13:04
On the way back I saw a prepago midget girl hanging around Parque Berrio stairs.A midget working Centro is a rarity, where at times there can be a lot of pregnant girls out working, and some mongers literally go nuts for them.

The landing at the bottom of the stairs to the Parque Berrio Metro Station can have some pretty girls working at times, but can be hit or miss.

I believe the ones working the "stairs" are hoping to snag a client before they venture off to the Veracruz area where there will be a much greater selection.

Surfer500
08-10-22, 13:14
Thanks, I'm glad you find it helpful. I'm certainly not an el Centro expert (aka rat), just beginning to discover it lately. I usually don't negotiate it in such detail and just play it by the ear and go with the flow adjusting on the spot. Sometimes I ask beforehand for bareback BJ and sometimes, if I like the girl more than expected, I ask for it the room. There is a charge for that, between 20 and 40 usually but some of the girls could just do it for an unspecified amount of 'propina' I suppose. Sometimes it's easier for a girl to decide whether they'll do it or not if they have the dick in front their face and can examine it. Didn't have any girl asking extra for kissing them on the body. DFK is another story and not every girl will want to do that, but I don't ask for it, I just kiss them if I like them and the moment is right (treat them just like girlfriends). If they like it and kiss back-great, if not, I don't worry about it. I find the DFK is generally much easier to get on a repeated session.

It's probably better to agree on all the details before the sale / going to the room if you're certain what you want and require, to avoid any time wasting, confusion and mood killing upstairs. Plus the pricing will probably better too since your negotiating position is better.You sound very confident in Centro which is a rarity, and have all the traits of a "street rat", knowing when to play it by ear, and knowing when to be very specific. My best experiences there have been totally playing it be ear, just letting things develop, however I've had some bad sessions as well by not being specific at times.

Osteoknot
08-10-22, 15:44
And surprisingly all of them are always doing so bad. Bad day, lots of expenses, bad business. They asked me for money for: Rent, Hairdresser, Bustickets, shampoo, and tuition for university.

I can highly recommend the picture reverse search with Google. Here you can sometimes easily see, where pictures we're stolen from.

Maybe just approach a girl. I've never considered doing that because I generally just don't approach strangers and start talking to them. But I guess Medellin is just different and I guess with a little charm, a lot of doors open.

One Colombian (she is 40), who is actually a prostitute in Spain for like 10 years, said to me once: "the horniest of all Latinas are Brazilians and Venezuelans, followed by Colombians".Yes, I have often said to the chicas there, not in a mean way, "I have yet to meet a girl here who doesn't have a strong need for money".

I don't believe it's an exaggeration when I say most of the girls you would approach will be glad you did and they will want to talk to you, too, and more!

I have never used Facebook, I am not your man there, but there is a ton written about it here, I think in the "Reports of Distinction" section, but can't say I looked.

Again, I wish you good luck but doesn't seem like you will need much luck. You will succeed. Your fluency in Spanish is beyond huge. You seem personable and perceptive. Can't miss. If I believed in jealousy, you would incite that emotion in me. Check back and let us know how things unfold.

JjBee62
08-10-22, 17:06
Are you willing to share the hotel name?Hotel Arame in Envigado. I wouldn't recommend it if you're planning on bringing 3 girls per day, but if you use a touch of discretion, there should be no problem.

Mtndew704
08-10-22, 17:48
We are from the same country, however Poblado does not remind me of the USA. Yeah, I see few gringos here and there, I hear american rap or pop music here and there, but that's about it. Would you stick to Poblado if it did not remind you of USA? I doubt it. The reason you stick to El Centro is because you can average 4. 3 chicas per day, which would be impossible in Poblado. You step out of Nutti, and there are plenty of girls you can grab. Plenty of love motels around. Rates are cheap. This is the environment you are comfortable with, it fits your needs.To be fair El Poblado has starbucks and hooters.

Recondite
08-10-22, 17:50
Facebook can be great especially once you build up decent list and they start adding you. Ultimately Facebook, like the ground game is a numbers game until it's not (they are numbers until you get to know them and find you have a good connection). Talk to a bunch and narrow down your options. Keep adding and keep talking if you are not happy with the options you have. I keep talking to and get interested in meeting chicas that 1) meet my looks criteria 2) respond to me relatively promptly and can maintain a good flow of communication 3) don't ask me for anything before I meet them 4) seem interesting if I talk to them extensively. I may chat a lot with some chicas or keep things to a minimum for logistics and details of meeting up depending on the chica. Sometimes for the hotter ones especially I like to take the more "mysterious" tack. The tack you take is going to depend on your style and game.

Anyway, as long as you can internalize that its a numbers game you'll be fine on Facebook or in person. If she asks for money or takes forever to respond on Facebook F her and move on to the next one. If a girl you talk to at a cafe or in the mall rebuffs you or seems weird in person F her and on to the next one. The great thing about Medellin is that your success rate is likely going to be higher than in the US or many other places (thus the shooting fish in a barrel). Also, there are what seems like limitless options. It seems like 75% of the women you come into contact with are available in some form. So there is no need to take a "failure" to heart. Just move on to the next one.

I personally love webcam chicas but I've only found out that they were webcam chicas after I met them in person. I've never tried to meet a chica that tries to sell me content.

Finally, a nice middle ground are some of the friendlier pros or the semipros on Facebook or on pages like photoprepago / mileroticos. You can get a pretty good experience with them without some of the hassle and uncertainty of nonpros. I'd RTFF as there are profiles and names shared of "good performers" as well as getting a subscription and pming with some more established members for leads in that area. I can think of a few very charismatic, fun, and very sexually spontaneous / open pros I know that I would have loved to have met the first time I went to Medellin.


Osteo. I love your answer and thanks a lot.

So what I've done so far is adding some pretty stunning girls who say they live in Medellin and from there I went, adding others from their friend lists. About 75% accepted my requests. But apparently most of them claim to work as webcam girls or just sell content via Facebook. But apparently, many profiles are fake because they either don't sent most recent pictures as they are now or audios. That's already a red flag. I got one absolute stunner. A 11 out of 10 to send me her real pictures and she did send something. 11 became a 6 or maybe a 5 : the: the.

And surprisingly all of them are always doing so bad. Bad day, lots of expenses, bad business. They asked me for money for: Rent, Hairdresser, Bustickets, shampoo, and tuition for university. But actually, as I've met Colombians with some income, they are normally never that easy on asking others for money but appreciate some independence. Venezuelans have been different. But it's surprising, how easily you apparently can wire transfer money in Colombia. However without being 100% sure, I'm not spending a dime but I tell them: see, you could be anyone, proof me that you really are who you claim to be. Must of them already have a problem with that and moreover: I can highly recommend the picture reverse search with Google. Here you can sometimes easily see, where pictures we're stolen from.

All in all I would describe my Facebook contacts at the moment as probably 80% fake. It's not that hard to get phone numbers from the girls and start conversations. But I guess the best advice is was Osteo just said: maybe just approach a girl. I've never considered doing that because I generally just don't approach strangers and start talking to them. But I guess Medellin is just different and I guess with a little charm, a lot of doors open.

AdamWl
08-10-22, 18:12
You sound very confident in Centro which is a rarity, and have all the traits of a "street rat", knowing when to play it by ear, and knowing when to be very specific. My best experiences there have been totally playing it be ear, just letting things develop, however I've had some bad sessions as well by not being specific at times.It's definitely an improvement compared to the beginning where I couldn't walk two blocks without felling lost and all the crowds and noise made me a little dizzy jaja. But often it can still be difficult to handle the ground zero scene, especially in the peak hours, it can be overwhelming (love it though). And I still have a bit of stage-fright sometimes but it gets easier every day.


The landing at the bottom of the stairs to the Parque Berrio Metro Station can have some pretty girls working at times, but can be hit or miss.

I believe the ones working the "stairs" are hoping to snag a client before they venture off to the Veracruz area where there will be a much greater selection.Yes, I did notice some girls there 'waiting on a bus', and some pretty skimpy dressed coffee girls too.

JustTK
08-10-22, 18:17
One Colombian (she is 40), who is actually a prostitute in Spain for like 10 years, said to me once: "the horniest of all Latinas are Brazilians and Venezuelans, followed by Colombians".Well, I am sure she would know. Must be correct. Hehe.

ILikeButts
08-10-22, 18:32
Oh, to answer your question more directly, pick any chica that attracts you and go up and start talking to her, anywhere, anytime. A nice pool is chicas who are at work, then they won't be as desperate for money. They won't be offended. Government workers, waitresses, policewomen, store clerks, bartenders, any gainful employment. You have a majority chance that she will engage, then go out with you for dinner, then fuck you that night. Tell them you are new in town and you would like someone to show you around, go to Park Avri, recommend a good restaurant, blah, blah, you can recite Mary had a Little Lamb and they will still want to go out with you.

Leave fear of failure at home. If a chica doesn't respond the way you like, forget about her, totally and immediately move on to the next one. Dating here is like shooting fish in a barrel. If she says she's married that is not an automatic "no" , she might still want to fuck but is just making you aware. Then it depends on your scruples. Personally, I avoid the potential complications of fucking married women, but that's your call.

If you are walking out in public and you literally see a single chica on the sidewalk you must have, introduce yourself and ask her, "Quieres ser mi novia por 2 horas if?" or does she wants to be your girlfriend for _ hours (fill in the number). If she say yes, act immediately if possible to reduce the chance you will get flaked if she wants to meet you somewhere else later. You're welcome.Love this post, I've been thinking about this topic a lot. I consider myself a relative MDE newbie (two trips, total of four weeks) and have mostly done Lleras, some street girls and FB. My Spanish is very beginner so I think I'm a bit limited doing cold approach until I improve that but I'm fascinated by the idea of it in MDE.

I was a daygamer for several years in US until I retired from that due to age (I'm now mid-fifties), shifted to sugar in US and then recently discovered the wonders of Latin America and specifically MDE. As soon as I got to MDE and realized how much higher my market value is here compared to what it is in US (typical guy probably gains at least 3 points) I imagined cold approach with just basic conversational Spanish would work very well in MDE. Couple that with a monger's attitude of being fine with paying a bit (the daygame community generally thinks P4P is for losers) and MDE could be the ultimate disneyland for horny old men. You literally walk around, see a girl you want to fuck, go talk to her a bit and there is a very good chance you can make that happen. Amazing!

On your mention of approaching women with jobs and specifically policewomen, this made me chuckle. On my last trip there I kept seeing these really hot cops (don't think I've ever seen a hot US cop) and thinking what an awesomely weird fetish that would be.

Anyhow, thanks for the post and the insightful thoughts!

ILikeButts
08-10-22, 18:41
1 restaurant worker, 3 maids, 1 nurse, 1 office worker and I have several more numbers I haven't completely explored yet. Oh and I'm in my 60's and although not gross looking, no one mistakes me for Robert Redford either. Age has no significance in the equation.

Just remember this. Which is the essence of Ostee's wisdom. Many working women are earning minimum wage (or there about). Sex is nothing to them, they have been having sex since they were barely teenagers. Money is rare. Very few of their friends or acquaintances have any to spare. So in their mind they are trading something of NO value for something that is rare.

The only caveat, is that you don't want to make it too direct. They have self-respect, they are not "prostitutes" they have a real job and can make it without having to compromise their values. But if you couch the proposition in a friendly way you will have no problem scoring with any number of hot little paisas.

What do I mean? Tell them you're here and sometimes you get a little bored and would like some intimate adult company. Tell them you are friendly, and generous. They will likely ask what that generous part means. You tell them that naturally you would like to reward them for their friendly company but since you don't know them well, instead of buying them a present you would like to give them some money (tell them how much. 200 mil, 250 mil whatever you think might tempt them) and then they can buy a gift that they really like and just remember that it was from you. Works like a charm. They see this as a respectful offer that doesn't make them lose self-esteem and doesn't brand them.Great post, what you wrote helped me clarify my own thinking on an issue I'd been struggling with. How do you cold approach a non-working girl and let her know you are okay with giving her $ without making her feel like a puta and creating some internal resistance on her part. Your approach on how to handle this issue is brilliant. Thanks for the idea!

MiamiBoy1
08-10-22, 20:34
To be fair El Poblado has starbucks and hooters.Any major city in the world has Starbucks or McDonald's. So what?) I avoid both everywhere I go anyways, even in the States.

Osteoknot
08-10-22, 21:00
To be fair El Poblado has starbucks and hooters.Jeje, overpriced coffee in a land where a bad cup of coffee is nearly unheard of.

And Hooters?

Don't get me started. Like trying to sell refrigerators to Eskimos, jajajaja.

That's exactly what I mean when I say Poblado reminds me of the US of A. The venues, the storefronts, the brand names. You can keep all of it as far as I am concerned, but I understand the appeal for others. Especially guys who weren't saturated by it in the US of A already, like yours truly.

Rehashing old fotos not a good habit. Two great exceptions popped up in my "One Year Ago Today" Google App.

First, Purrfekt Paisa, one of the finest physical specimens I have ever had the privilage to ravage, including this last trip. You may recall my post about her pencil point clit and labia minor lip edges as fine as a piece of paper, of which she will not allow any fotos. First 3 fotos are her. She gets as much as a million pesos for a session. I have gotten her for double digits before. This last time I paid her 200 mil COP for three hours. Anytime, all the time.

Second, and final foto chica in the blue top. I sometimes use this foto as my sig, of Hot Housewife, who later became Sexy Student when she left her "husband". She used to stop by my hotel on her way to class for a quickie, leave the taxi waiting outside, done in less than 30 minutes. For free. Mainly because I licked her ass and no one else did before me. She fuckin' loved it and she wasn't the first or the last chica like that, and I guarantee you there will be others in the future, jejejeje. BTW, she messaged me this last trip but she would not come to see me at The Nuttie because she fears El Centro. Strata 5 chica, spoiled. I considered getting a separate hotel room at the Dorado for her, but even she wasn't worth the extra time and effort for what I had going on.

Anyone would be hard-pressed to find better looking examples in any venue. In this case, both were personal referrals, or friends of Scarlet, then my Number Two chica and why I would be insane to ever get rid of her when she brings me pussies like these. Wanting to please your man is a great attribute.

Purrfekt Paisa and Hot Housewife in the same day, a very, very, good day indeed.

GiuseppeBonera
08-10-22, 21:23
Sounds like a great night. So the Marriott is completely GF? Or did you just get lucky to sneak them in. I actually prefer an ID check. Wondering if you had their ID's checked if there would be an issue?They did not check at all each time I brought a girl. I even ordered room service for them. Yeah a little wierd.

GiuseppeBonera
08-10-22, 21:33
It is good to see the Marriott has changed their guest policy; it it my favorite hotel in Medellin.

And pulling two hotties out of La Isla for $230 apiece for the night is a good rate. I paid $80 an hour for a beauty from there and a different girl asked for $160 for the hour, so you did fine. The guys who question how much you paid have no clue what quality is. When I went to La Isla, it was the single greatest collection of beautiful women in Colombia I had seen. I had heard it went downhill and then up again.

Guys want to compare the rates of women to those glue sniffers in El Centro but some of us are and were willing to pay for beauty. They do not understand that if you want a woman like this in the USA, it is $1000 an hour. https://tryst.link/escort/mira_1.

So $230 for the whole night for a comparable woman is a bargain. The guys who criticize you see no difference between a woman from La Isla and one in Centro.Yes these girls are not the street girls who are one and done from Santa Fe. People also forget about morning action you get with the overnight and full GFE. I don't worry about getting stick from these guys also respect everyone has their preference. I am also back in the game recently so after get a few contacts I can avoid the club fees.

Deafcon
08-11-22, 02:06
They did not check at all each time I brought a girl. I even ordered room service for them. Yeah a little wierd.Damn, I used up all my Marriott points earlier this year. I do have a room booked at the Hampton in a couple of weeks. I wasn't planning on brining girls up there, as I'll be working while I'm staying there. I guess I'll have to take one for the team and see what happens. One of the perks of being a Hilton Diamond is being no chica fees, right?

TummySangs
08-11-22, 03:21
Has anyone had a chance to take home one of those hot dancers on stage In Mangoes at Medellin back to your hotel or apartment? Are they available for take out?

Any other hot clubs like Mangoes with awesome girl shows in MDE? (not the strip clubs- know about them already).

Osteoknot
08-11-22, 06:29
I will post fotos of seven different random (in the sense that I have so many to choose from) El Centro chicas, and three personal referrals (friends of friends) who will spend the night, give GFE, are beautiful, clean, sweet, good company, and have never owned a tube of glue in their life, jajajaja, all for under $90 USD, including taxi and tip. Guys who would have you believe it's not possible are not fully aware of the total market in Medellin.

Nothing wrong with pursuing your own venue and spending your money the way you want. Guys here cross the line, and frequently, when they start saying imply what other guys do is somehow less desirable and inferior in general, mainly because it costs less money, instead of just keeping it to personal tastes.

FMV (Fair Market Value) for overnight GFE on the open market has not changed since I started mongering in MDE in 2019 at 300 mil COP which is currently under $70 USD. I will probably tip them another 50 mil COP, or 12 bucks USD for a good time, plus another 20 mil COP or under five bucks for taxi. I know, some guys get bothered by parsing it out seperately like that, but in my experience the chicas like it more when you "dance the dance".

Using USA prices to justify paying higher prices here is specious and has nothing to do with setting FMV in Medellin.

So what's our total, gentleman? Still well under $90 USD. For all night, not one hour. If you don't know the chica you should prenegotiate arrival and departure times. I am way past that point with the chicas in these fotos. Except for Sweetie Pie and Sasha. I would still have to nail them down because I don't know them as well as the others. If you added up the number of times and nights I have spent with Purrfekt Paisa, Freckle, Sexy Lexy, and Pumpkin. Geez, IDK, approaching 200? Repeat business with chicas who I enjoy is a huge factor in improving the quality of the experience, for me.

Remember, when a lot of guys tell you they don't like a certain way of mongering, or a certain venue, obvio personal taste is involved but they could also be revealing that they don't know how. Sure, El Centro may disgust some people. Others are simply scared. I am not suggesting anyone should partake in an activity that scares them. "A man's got to know his limitations", - channeling Clint Eastwood as Dirty Harry.

You'll have to take my word on it that all the chicas in these fotos are pretty and attractive. Anyone who has met me knows I have a wide and varied taste in chicas, but my "good looking" girls stack up to any chicas, anywhere. They might not be dolled up in the wrapping paper, bows and ribbons the way some guys like. Again, that is personal taste and if that motivates a guy to pay double or triple in the venue of their choice of what I am quoting here, then so be it. As I recall, most of those acoutrements come off when the fun starts, jejeje.

I assembled these fotos by scanning only my most recent files in less than four minutes. I could post twenty more like-fotos in less than five minutes, but I think I made my point. I know I won't convince the guys already set in their ways. Like I have often said, my audience is not the frequent posters here. They have it already figured out for themselves. Some of them want (or need?) others to think the same way they do. That's called self-validation and it's an ego exercise. If your name is the same as a major city in Florida, or a dead rock and roller, please don't waste your time and mine by responding directly to this post, thank you.

I am posting to the guys who are wondering and wanting to learn what's really available in our Magical Medellin. Asti Out.

Fotos, in order: Butterscotch, MarvelousMotelMaiden, Sexy Lexy, Purrfekt Paisa, Sweetie Pie, Princess, Freckle, Sasha, NubileNewbie#3, and Pumpkin.

Osteoknot
08-11-22, 11:56
She gets as much as a million pesos for a session. I have gotten her for double digits before. This last time I paid her 200 mil COP for three hours. Anytime, all the time.
I paid her 300 mil COP for 3 hours, not 200 as I reported above.

150 for 1 hour, 250 for 2 hours, 300 for 3+ hours including overnight is FMV (Fair Market Value). Actually, for her that's below FMV when you factor in her hawt as fuk-fuk factor.

All fotos, Purrfekt Paisa.

Mtndew704
08-11-22, 12:22
Jeje, overpriced coffee in a land where a bad cup of coffee is nearly unheard of.

And Hooters?

Don't get me started. Like trying to sell refrigerators to Eskimos, jajajaja.

That's exactly what I mean when I say Poblado reminds me of the US of A. The venues, the storefronts, the brand names. You can keep all of it as far as I am concerned, but I understand the appeal for others. Especially guys who weren't saturated by it in the US of A already, like yours truly.
You must be a Dunkin man, you don't have to lie to us Osteo ;)

ElPostino
08-11-22, 14:59
Any major city in the world has Starbucks or McDonald's. So what?) I avoid both everywhere I go anyways, even in the States.I think Poblado and american brands are good if you want to impress the local girl. They love american branded stuff.

AdamWl
08-11-22, 15:37
I noticed slim cute girl in a red top standing in the doorway behind the church. A little bit taller than my usual pick. Approached. Good vibe, smiling. 40/40. Vennie, 23 yo but probably a bit older. Her body was alright, very warm which I liked, small titties a bit soft but not saggy. I liked her soft brown hair. She gave a good CBJ, from time to time she was pausing and kind of deepthroating herself. There were couple heated moments, but session was more on a pleasant rather than hot side. Just seemed like a nice girl, somewhat reserved at times.

SW3 sent me FB message with hola amor and photo of her face. Hmm.. No, maybe later, let's see who else is here.

Bumped into SW4. Didn't recognise her, she wore fake glasses plus was walking with the crowd and not standing, so I wasn't looking. She did recognise me though. We did exchange some messages earlier and I wrote her we'll meet soon, without specifying any exact date. I was going to eat something so asked if she wants to join. Asked her where is some good food around here. She took me to a joint nearby. I ordered chicken and she something the name escapes me now, big dish with mixed meat and vegetables and a lot of yellow 'masa arepa' (she said). She gave me a taste. Meh. Chicken was alright. 25 mil for both dishes and drinks.

Noticed her tattoo, her daughter' birthday is the same day as mine.

She wanted to go to a room, said she can't wait to suck me off and wants leche this time. Normally I don't repeat the next day but well, it was getting late, she's here and horny and I didn't particularly feel like looking for another test-drive and the vibe was good.

Great session. Total GFE with this girl. More on hot than sweet side. Not even a hint of hesitation or suggestion to put on a condom. She loves kissing and loves fucking. She has the best pussy I've seen here so far, pink, perfect shape, always wet, juicy, clean and shiny. Didn't need any lubricant. I like her light skin too, reminds me of the girls at home. I almost came just from the way she blew me, fucked her in missionary in several positions. Great eye contact, 100% engagement. Flexible. I put her legs behind my neck and folded her in. Came close to pop and switched to a doggy. Pulled out for a finish on her back. Took a video of the crime scene.

Cleaned her up and we cuddled and kissed. I fingered her. Then went down on her for quite some time. She seemed to have come couple times and her pussy was just overflowing with juices. More cuddling and kissing, love squeezing those tits. A bit of spoon fucking. She then goes on top and rides me like a bunny. Damn, the libido on this girl. She seems to come again. Reverse cowboy. OK amor enough! She blows me. Some slow fucking in missionary and DFK to finish up. We take a shower together. Clothes on. I give her 50. She tells me to be careful as the streets can be dangerous around this time. More passionate DFK and body grinding, had to unglue her and we part ways.

Mtndew704
08-11-22, 16:19
I think Poblado and american brands are good if you want to impress the local girl. They love american branded stuff.They love iphones.

ElPoblado
08-11-22, 17:21
Hey gents,

I've been really enjoying reading the posts under this thread. The info here will help me with my time in Medellin. I was wondering if some of the most frequent posters would be interested in starting new threads under "Colombia" to share your mongering journey. This thread should be more "report" focused in my opinion. Just a thought, what you all think?

Mr Enternational
08-11-22, 18:01
I think Poblado and american brands are good if you want to impress the local girl. They love american branded stuff.For me the beauty of going to South America is that you don't need to impress anyone.

Osteoknot
08-11-22, 19:35
I think Poblado and american brands are good if you want to impress the local girl. They love american branded stuff.Some guys could use the assist, jeje. Spending money virtually always works. Remember, Money = Love, in Medellin. Up to you how and where you spend it, and for the most part, that's nobody's business but your own.

Osteoknot
08-11-22, 20:40
They love iphones.All iPhones in this discussion are the latest Pro Models available.

Get back to me when you have felt 1/1000 of this pain, jajajaja.

Chica's phone gets stolen in El Centro while she is sitting in a taxi, using her phone, window down, door unlocked, and probably the taxi driver was in on it. You buy her a "cheap" Samsung for 400 mil COP and tell her if she can hang onto it for one year, you will buy her an iPhone. She does and you do, to the day. She drops the iPhone two weeks after you bought it for off the new Moto she was riding that you also paid for. You repair the iPhone for her at 600.000 mil COP.

That's one reason I hate Apple, repair costs are egregious.

Different chica rolled-up on by two guys on a motorcycle while she sits at Boston Park holding her infant child, and rob her at gunpoint of her iPhone, you replace it with a nice Motorola that costs half a million pesos. You tell her if she can hold onto the Motorola for one year, you will buy her another iPhone. She does, and you buy her an iPhone Pro13. One week later she gets robbed at knifepoint to eyeball, and you replace it with another same, iPhone that she still has but now she is not talking to you anymore for other reasons.

Different chica, robbed at gunpoint while she sitting in a taxi and using her iPhone that you bought for her. You have told her twenty times not to pull out her phone when she is in a taxi but she is oblivious to this advice. You buy her another iPhone. Less than a month later, she gets robbed and beat up in front of her apartment in Castilla by another chica for her iPhone. You tell her that her iPhone days are over. Two months later you buy her a used iPhone from one of her friends that she still has.

Same Moto chica from above, shows you her new iPhone that her rich novio from the Domincan Republic bought her. Now she has two iPhone Pro13's. You suggest it might be decent of her to return the iPhone you bought her to you since your old Samsung got stolen by an irate tranny at Ground Zero, and you are using a cheap burner phone that cost 1/10 of what you paid for her iPhone. She says she will sell you the iPhone that you bought for her for what amounted to a 5% discount, jaja.

Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. I did not add up how many phones that comes to, jajaja. Not a good look for me, makes me look like a dumb shit, valid argument about which I happen to not agree. I don't care what other people think.

Oh, you should also realize the chicas don't really give a shit about the phone. They want the best camera on the market, that happens to be a phone.

I know what some of you are thinking (usually several steps ahead). The chicas were making up some of these stories to get phones. For every one of those stories above, multiply it by 10-15 for the number of times chicas tried to get phones out of me, but didn't. So I am not quite as gullible as you may think. Perception is reality and for reasons I won't expand upon, I believed those stories above.

The main point being, beware, it really is a jungle out there for stealing the upper branded phones, particularly, iPhones.

Pearl: From a distance the thieves are looking at the number and size of the lenses on the back of the phone to identify the iPhones for their targets. They make escutcheons or phone cases that have little sliding covers that will hide these lenses that I recommend using.

Ostee Out, and I will as always, Keep On Keepin' On.

Osteoknot
08-12-22, 02:48
Let's celebrate finally getting my new Google Pixis 6 phone that was supposed to be here three days ago. I am digital again! The one effect I did not anticipate before my phone arrived was the amount of financial paralysis due to not being able to receive confirmation codes via SMS messaging without a phone and my old phone number. Maddening!

Ten more fotos of not-so-random chicas who will give you overnight GFE (GirlFriend Experience) for 300 mil COP, plus propina (tip) for good service, plus taxi, grand total under $90 USD. When I say "will", that doesn't mean you are supposed to PM me for their contact info. I don't do that for guys I don't know and even the ones I do, I am very selective.

There is not one dud in this bunch. If the chicas in this array cannot put a tingle in your dingle, well I got new for your miss amigos, that is your problema and not theirs!

Combo
08-12-22, 03:13
For me the beauty of going to South America is that you don't need to impress anyone.Yup. In fact, I'd say it's foolish and possibly dangerous to try to impress with money. This is a poor country and the girls all have delinquent friends who'd be happy to rob a rich foreigner boning their women.

Osteoknot
08-12-22, 03:35
Yup. In fact, I'd say it's foolish and possibly dangerous to try to impress with money. This is a poor country and the girls all have delinquent friends who'd be happy to rob a rich foreigner boning their women.Like most things in life, if you know what you're doing, you'll be fine. If you don't, you can create problems for yourself. It's not a "one-size-fits-all" situation. Conspicuous public spending would fall more under the category of what you described, but you didn't specify. Maybe that's what you meant. Depends on your relationships with said chicas.

There are too many variables to make a blanket statement about those risks. Did you happen to just read my previous post about how much money I have wasted on iPhones? You could argue I was gullible, stupid, whatever, I don't care. But I can tell you, I wasn't in any "danger" at any point. Nor was I trying to impress anyone so maybe that's to your point, a little. I was simply trying to make a few chicas happy. Money = Love. The vast majority here will not be able to assimilate that concept. I am not saying you need a lot of money, simply that is what money represents to the chicas in the Medellin culture.

Drf1987
08-12-22, 04:24
Well said! And great pics!


I will post fotos of seven different random (in the sense that I have so many to choose from) El Centro chicas, and three personal referrals (friends of friends) who will spend the night, give GFE, are beautiful, clean, sweet, good company, and have never owned a tube of glue in their life, jajajaja, all for under $90 USD, including taxi and tip. Guys who would have you believe it's not possible are not fully aware of the total market in Medellin.

Nothing wrong with pursuing your own venue and spending your money the way you want. Guys here cross the line, and frequently, when they start saying imply what other guys do is somehow less desirable and inferior in general, mainly because it costs less money, instead of just keeping it to personal tastes.

FMV (Fair Market Value) for overnight GFE on the open market has not changed since I started mongering in MDE in 2019 at 300 mil COP which is currently under $70 USD. I will probably tip them another 50 mil COP, or 12 bucks USD for a good time, plus another 20 mil COP or under five bucks for taxi. I know, some guys get bothered by parsing it out seperately like that, but in my experience the chicas like it more when you "dance the dance".

Using USA prices to justify paying higher prices here is specious and has nothing to do with setting FMV in Medellin...

Elvis 2008
08-12-22, 04:31
I will post fotos of seven different random (in the sense that I have so many to choose from) El Centro chicas, and three personal referrals (friends of friends) who will spend the night, give GFE, are beautiful, clean, sweet, good company, and have never owned a tube of glue in their life all for under $90 USD, including taxi and tip. Guys who would have you believe it's not possible are not fully aware of the total market in Medellin.I am not sure who said that is not possible. I like the price discovery and honesty about pricing though.


Nothing wrong with pursuing your own venue and spending your money the way you want. Guys here cross the line, and frequently, when they start saying imply what other guys do is somehow less desirable and inferior in general, mainly because it costs less money, instead of just keeping it to personal tastes.No, you are missing the point. If I go to El Centro or Santa Fe, I have to go five times to find one woman I have to repeat with. If I go to La Isla, it is at least one girl per visit. Centro makes sense if I am staying six months or if I do not care about quality. If I am staying a week or so and care about quality, La Isla makes way more sense.


Using USA prices to justify paying higher prices here is specious and has nothing to do with setting FMV in Medellin.Of course, it does. Guys calculate costs when comparing the USA, Canada, Mexico, Europe, Asia, and Colombia. You are dreaming if you do not think that competition exists.

And they are not sniffers? But snorters? Do you think that matters to a lot of guys? Can you see how guys might not want to deal with that crap? How much does that add per visit? I would not call someone who snorts Tussi "clean". And if the women are doing that, how about shooting up and sharing needles? How can you be sure they are not doing that?

Osteo, you fucked that girl with that nasty ass rash. Twice I was with barrio girls with nasty rashes too. Once I told the gal to forget it, and the other I just got a covered BJ and did as little as I could to touch her. I doubt La Isla is going to have women working with rashes like I saw with your woman and those I saw.

Then there is the scopalamine. Oh yeah, that happened to you and to Paulie and a bunch of other guys. Has that happened at La Isla? Is it fair to say it is less likely to happen there? Management will kick anyone's ass who tries that shit. It would cost them money.

As one guy says, he has points at a hotel and so do I. I can stay a week in Medellin on my points. If the going rate is $90 for centro and $230 for La Isla, that is offset by the hotel costs but there is more to it. Once I start networking, I am going to have the La Isla girls staying for longer. They are going to be in a nice room, good bed, shower in hot water, have a functioning thermostat, sunning themselves by the pool, and pigging out on the free breakfast. A lot of the women do not want to go back to their shitty tiny apartments.

So if you add it all up: the time, the Tussi, the scopalamine, the health of the women, the quality of where you are staying, the women wanting to stay at the nice hotel, and the benefit of the hotel points, there really is not a $140 difference between La Isla woman and centro girls. It is way less than that.

And even if there was, the difference over 7 days is $980. That is less than one hour with the hot girl I linked to in the USA. Do you think $980 then matters to a lot of guys? Someone is paying that $1000 an hour. Even the fat pigs are charging $400 an hour in the USA.

If you are there 6 months like you are, that is tens of thousands. It makes sense to invest in Centro and collect a rolodex of hotties. I do not think if you are there a week it does make sense to do Centro unless you want to fuck five women a day. Maybe a guy goes once as a novelty.

I appreciate your being honest about what you pay and the looks of women you are fucking, but other guys have not been honest. It is really hard to know that a woman with a 22 inch waist is going to be in more demand than a woman at 40 inches?

These guys are not being helpful. They are bullying. They are jealous of guys getting better pussy than they are. The excuse they use is the week long warriors are driving up prices, but they are not going to Centro. The prices there are set by locals not foreigners.

I thought I was way overpaying when I went to Colombia. $90 a night for the quality of women you were fucking is about what I was seeing Osteo.

Drf1987
08-12-22, 04:33
It's funny you said that. I was in Cartagena in January and a friend that was with me took a picture of me while I was talking to a chica. When I got back my brothers saw the picture and their first words were "you went out dressed like that." They have never been to Colombia so they don't know any better, but my response was I'm not trying to impress anybody down there. Heading to Medellin at the end of the month can't wait to get there!


For me the beauty of going to South America is that you don't need to impress anyone.

Mojo Bandit
08-12-22, 06:21
Hotel Arame in Envigado. I wouldn't recommend it if you're planning on bringing 3 girls per day, but if you use a touch of discretion, there should be no problem.JjBee62 (or anyone who wants to chime in) Have you heard the rumor that Envigado is one of the safest area to stay becuase the Cartel is based there and have put the word on the street that any small time hoods who mess with anyone there will be dealt with harshly? Overall how do reports about safety / chance of getting a gun put in your face in Envigado stand compared to even Poblado?

Xplore21
08-12-22, 11:14
Hey what's up everyone,

I'm new here to the forum. I've been to Medellin many times but I've had a real tough time finding these type of women. Anyone have any intel on these girls. There's a popular porn site in Colombia with these curvy bbws.

SouthernOcean
08-12-22, 14:10
Heading to Medellin in October. Long time fan of Cartagena. Bogota is too high for my taste, literally can not breath there. So I am looking forward to Medellin. A little help gentlemen. Where a good place to stay close to the best mongering? Are the online sources good and which ones? What is the going price for really good looking women? In Cartagena there are no real brothals or massage parlors of worth, how about here? If you have any tips on airbnbs or hotels and specific women you would recommend or sex guides, please PM me. I would be happy to buy lunch for the help. Thank you very much. Need info on Cartagena, let me know.

Surfer500
08-12-22, 15:28
JjBee62 (or anyone who wants to chime in) Have you heard the rumor that Envigado is one of the safest area to stay becuase the Cartel is based there and have put the word on the street that any small time hoods who mess with anyone there will be dealt with harshly? Overall how do reports about safety / chance of getting a gun put in your face in Envigado stand compared to even Poblado?I have not heard this rumor, nor have I ever heard anything about Envigado safety wise, versus various areas of Medellin that aren't safe.

As far as a gun in your face in Poblado, well I have experience with that, but suspect in Envigado there's going to be less of it. What you mentioned in terms of the Cartel putting the word out on the streets, well there are several barrios in Medellin with gangs that make all the residents pay them weekly for I guess what might be considered protection from getting robbed. One of my Chicas told me she has to pay 2,000 Pesos a week not to be messed with. And in a lot of these barrios, the Police don't patrol, or venture into them unless summoned.

Osteoknot
08-12-22, 15:46
My Numero Uno novia Whassapped me today and says after I gifted her one on the day I left, now her girlfriends are buying them, in addition to us mongerers. Jjajajaaja.

Osteoknot
08-12-22, 17:04
It's funny you said that. I was in Cartagena in January and a friend that was with me took a picture of me while I was talking to a chica. When I got back my brothers saw the picture and their first words were "you went out dressed like that." They have never been to Colombia so they don't know any better, but my response was I'm not trying to impress anybody down there. Heading to Medellin at the end of the month can't wait to get there!And to most other similar issues. Yes, you can go out not-dressed-to-impress. I do it all the time. My novias have complained about my wardrobe or "uniform" to which I persistently adhere. But when I step it up, they always notice. The chicas are not going to bite the hand that feeds them but the simple facts are illustrated by these hypotheticals:

If you and your identical clone go out side by side except one has dressed noticeably sharper, who do you think the chicas are going to lean towards first?

If you and your identical clone go out side by side and one is willing to tip, pay or give a regalo in appreciation for the chica's company, and the other is looking for freebies, who do you think the chicas are going to choose?

If you and your identical clone go out mongering side by side and one shows a genuine friendly respect for the chicas, and the other treats the chicas like pieces of meat, who do you think is going to get the better service?

If you and your identical clone go out on the prowl, and one has made sure his ear hairs aren't four inches long, his breath isn't bad, his shoe soles are flopping loose, his body odor is in check, and his fingernails are clean, do I really need to explain which clone will be perceived as more desirable?

Both clones will get laid. One is going to have a more qualitative experience, the other more quantitative. You could even argue the more desirable clone might get a better price and terms.

Litmus Smut
08-12-22, 17:20
No, yet I see the reason why you would want that: to separate out the chat from the hard hitting reporting. But this section is so mature at this point, it can be searched, and often times questions are responded to qu. Ickly. Adding another folder means the reader has to interigating another area, and the writer has to have conversations away from the main thread, and balance attention in numerous places. Plus, how to enforce it? You're bound to have someone drop a nugget in the wrong place.

As noisy as this thread is, it's informative and singular.

This was my TedEx and please subscribe to my YouTube channel.


Hey gents,

I've been really enjoying reading the posts under this thread. The info here will help me with my time in Medellin. I was wondering if some of the most frequent posters would be interested in starting new threads under "Colombia" to share your mongering journey. This thread should be more "report" focused in my opinion. Just a thought, what you all think?

Osteoknot
08-12-22, 17:40
No, yet I see the reason why you would want that: to separate out the chat from the hard hitting reporting. But this section is so mature at this point, it can be searched, and often times questions are responded to qu. Ickly. Adding another folder means the reader has to interigating another area, and the writer has to have conversations away from the main thread, and balance attention in numerous places. Plus, how to enforce it? You're bound to have someone drop a nugget in the wrong place.

As noisy as this thread is, it's informative and singular.

This was my TedEx and please subscribe to my YouTube channel.Of course, the value you hold in your mind for what you called "hard hitting reporting" and "noise" is mostly subjective opinion and will vary from user to user. The only real opinion that matters on that is that of admin and the moderators. If someone has a "matured" mongering style, I guess you could say I am "set in my ways" without a lot of need for facts and figures, then the "chat" for me is the best and most interesting part of this Web site. To each his own. Don't forget about the Ignore List if that can improve your experience.

DonMedellin
08-12-22, 17:41
A buddy from the Bay Area landed yesterday and this morning we went to a casa in centro. The cost for 1 HR was was 75 mil, and we had a lineup of 10 + girls to choose from. Sessions were good for both of us. My buddy then told me that in the greater San Francisco area, he would pay around 100 usd for one date with a 7 (starter, entrees and drinks plus tax and tips), and not guaranteed to have sex. Whereas in Medellin he just paid less than 20 bucks for 1 hour sex with a sweet girl who he would rate as a 7 as well. And he said that he would not pay that much for dates in the US anymore. He has been here for less that 24 hours and already spoiled. This experience just ruined his sex life back in America.

Elvis 2008
08-12-22, 17:53
Chica's phone gets stolen in El Centro while she is sitting in a taxi, using her phone, window down, door unlocked, and probably the taxi driver was in on it. You buy her a "cheap" Samsung for 400 mil COP and tell her if she can hang onto it for one year, you will buy her an iPhone. She does and you do, to the day. She drops the iPhone two weeks after you bought it for off the new Moto she was riding that you also paid for. You repair the iPhone for her at 600.000 mil COP.

That's one reason I hate Apple, repair costs are egregious.

Different chica rolled-up on by two guys on a motorcycle while she sits at Boston Park holding her infant child, and rob her at gunpoint of her iPhone, you replace it with a nice Motorola that costs half a million pesos. You tell her if she can hold onto the Motorola for one year, you will buy her another iPhone. She does, and you buy her an iPhone Pro13. One week later she gets robbed at knifepoint to eyeball, and you replace it with another same, iPhone that she still has but now she is not talking to you anymore for other reasons.

Different chica, robbed at gunpoint while she sitting in a taxi and using her iPhone that you bought for her. You have told her twenty times not to pull out her phone when she is in a taxi but she is oblivious to this advice. You buy her another iPhone. Less than a month later, she gets robbed and beat up in front of her apartment in Castilla by another chica for her iPhone. You tell her that her iPhone days are over. Two months later you buy her a used iPhone from one of her friends that she still has.That is another good informative post. I had two seeking girls flat out tell me they were on the site for iphones. That is not all women on the site by any means but it speaks to the fact that women think the phones and money are two separate things when they are not.

Osteo is right about the phone's camera being the most important feature for women. Thing is I think the Google pixels, even the older versions are as good or almost as good as the iphones, and can be had for a fraction of the cost. And I could be wrong, but I am not sure they are sold in Colombia.

The yield on phones, the appreciation factor, is close to taking a woman shopping, about zero. So if you want to get a woman a phone, definitely get the low end: Pixel, Samsung older mid range models, or the newer Motos. If you go on Amazon, you can get these for less than $200 and often close to $100.

Outside of getting some hot pics and being able to reach your chica more easily (maybe), you are going to get nothing in return. Buying a phone is a gift plain and simple. If you paid $500 a phone, do not think you are going to get $500 of appreciation or $500 worth of action. It does not work that way. It should, but it does not. For the most part, giving away a phone is a waste of money.

JustTK
08-12-22, 18:24
JjBee62 (or anyone who wants to chime in) Have you heard the rumor that Envigado is one of the safest area to stay becuase the Cartel is based there and have put the word on the street that any small time hoods who mess with anyone there will be dealt with harshly? Overall how do reports about safety / chance of getting a gun put in your face in Envigado stand compared to even Poblado?Envigado is an extremely safe area bcos its very much a middle class family neighbourhood. There are very few low strato houses around.

Osteoknot
08-12-22, 18:36
A buddy from the Bay Area landed yesterday and this morning we went to a casa in centro. The cost for 1 HR was was 75 mil, and we had a lineup of 10 + girls to choose from. Sessions were good for both of us. My buddy then told me that in the greater San Francisco area, he would pay around 100 usd for one date with a 7 (starter, entrees and drinks plus tax and tips), and not guaranteed to have sex. Whereas in Medellin he just paid less than 20 bucks for 1 hour sex with a sweet girl who he would rate as a 7 as well. And he said that he would not pay that much for dates in the US anymore. He has been here for less that 24 hours and already spoiled. This experience just ruined his sex life back in America.I can't even date anymore here in Pussy Prison or US of A, and I used to be pretty damn good at it without any sense of false humility. Tell your friend I feel his pain. I will once again quote The Great One (Jackie Gleason) about how Medellin "ruins" us, "Hoooow sweet it is!" I feel certain you have already explained to your friend the solution is more frequent and longer visits to our Magical Medellin.

Random gratuitous fotos: Second foto is my Number One and let's face it, Scarlet is still Number Two, chicas. As of this past trip, now they are friends and the fun and love there in and out of the bedroom is off the charts. The fourth foto is Freckle who followed thru on her plan to get liposuction this past Monday. They sucked the fat out of her waist and stuck it in her ass. I have to admit, I am surprised how much curvier she is, and of course the swelling and the marks are even't close to being resolved yet. That is her small, smooth as glass, low mileage, tight, sweet pussy in the final foto. My penis is slightly larger than average (girth only, I am exactly at the median for length. TMI? Jajajajajajaaaa) and she has a hard time taking it, each and every time, with delicious moans of pleasure and pain.

Chicago85
08-12-22, 18:39
A buddy from the Bay Area landed yesterday and this morning we went to a casa in centro. The cost for 1 HR was was 75 mil, and we had a lineup of 10 + girls to choose from. Sessions were good for both of us. My buddy then told me that in the greater San Francisco area, he would pay around 100 usd for one date with a 7 (starter, entrees and drinks plus tax and tips), and not guaranteed to have sex. Whereas in Medellin he just paid less than 20 bucks for 1 hour sex with a sweet girl who he would rate as a 7 as well. And he said that he would not pay that much for dates in the US anymore. He has been here for less that 24 hours and already spoiled. This experience just ruined his sex life back in America.$100 likely on the low end for a first date in expensive area like SF, especially if you have drinks!

Chicago85
08-12-22, 18:48
All iPhones in this discussion are the latest Pro Models available.

Get back to me when you have felt 1/1000 of this pain, jajajaja.

Chica's phone gets stolen in El Centro while she is sitting in a taxi, using her phone, window down, door unlocked, and probably the taxi driver was in on it. .......She does and you do, to the day. She drops the iPhone two weeks after you bought it for off the new Moto she was riding that you also paid for. You repair the iPhone for her at 600.000 mil COP.

That's one reason I hate Apple, repair costs are egregious.

...... You tell her if she can hold onto the Motorola for one year, you will buy her another iPhone. She does, and you buy her an iPhone Pro13. One week later she gets robbed at knifepoint to eyeball, and you replace it with another same, iPhone that she still has but now she is not talking to you anymore for other reasons.

Different chica, robbed at gunpoint while she sitting in a taxi and using her iPhone that you bought for her. .....You buy her another iPhone. Less than a month later, she gets robbed and beat up in front of her apartment in Castilla by another chica for her iPhone. You tell her that her iPhone days are over. Two months later you buy her a used iPhone from one of her friends that she still has.

Same Moto chica from above, shows you her new iPhone that her rich novio from the Domincan Republic bought her. .......Now she has two iPhone Pro13's..With all due respect, why in God's name are you buying chica's iPhone 13's? Particularly those who live in rough areas, are young, and most likely absent minded?

Secondly, have you considered getting insurance on any of these phones? Even if the rate is half the phone value per month it'd be worth it in your case jajaja!

Mr Enternational
08-12-22, 18:51
Once I start networking, I am going to have the La Isla girls staying for longer. They are going to be in a nice room, good bed, shower in hot water, have a functioning thermostat, sunning themselves by the pool, and pigging out on the free breakfast. A lot of the women do not want to go back to their shitty tiny apartments.A lot of mongers assume that. Probably because they are on vacation and it is a treat for them. But those chicks see those places all the time so it is nothing new or amazing to them.

Home is always home no matter how shitty it may seem to someone else. If you went to work all day, then after work somebody invited you to a nice hotel to sunbathe and pig out, you may dig doing that a couple of times. But after about the third time you will be like fuck that, I just want to go home.

So if you think a chick is all excited to do that for the 1000th time, they are really not.

Osteoknot
08-12-22, 18:53
With all due respect, why in God's name are you buying chica's iPhone 13's? Particularly those who live in rough areas, are young, and most likely absent minded?

Secondly, have you considered getting insurance on any of these phones? Even if the rate is half the phone value per month it'd be worth it in your case jajaja!I honestly don't care about the look it gives me. What I really feel inside is that it is more of a social experiment, for me, about changing the chicas' behaviors, although the smart money would be on changing my behavior instead, jajajajaja. . So far, I have failed although as of late there have been small signs of progress, with the chicas that is.

I like your suggestion for phone insurance and that thought never occurred to me. Thank you.

Chicago85
08-12-22, 18:59
Hey gents,

I've been really enjoying reading the posts under this thread. The info here will help me with my time in Medellin. I was wondering if some of the most frequent posters would be interested in starting new threads under "Colombia" to share your mongering journey. This thread should be more "report" focused in my opinion. Just a thought, what you all think?If you want to hear about the 'journey' I suggest you just offer to buy a guy a coffee or beer. You can search by poster and follow as well. No one story is alike although there are a handful of different buckets that guys typically fall into (I. E. Retired set income, ex-military, baller crowd, etc.). And we all of course love Latinas!

Steve 9696
08-12-22, 19:29
Hey gents,

I've been really enjoying reading the posts under this thread. The info here will help me with my time in Medellin. I was wondering if some of the most frequent posters would be interested in starting new threads under "Colombia" to share your mongering journey. This thread should be more "report" focused in my opinion. Just a thought, what you all think?Suggestions are always welcome but we have already seen this play out in the Costa Del Sol thread. There is some bad blood in there that resulted in separate threads for Club activity and non club activity. This is decidedly lame. Having to visit both threads. And people saying go see the other one.

I'the say any OT discussions in here you can just ignore. Keep it simple. One Medellin primary thread IMO.

Maestroo
08-12-22, 19:33
I'm a regular poster / reader of the USGA site, but my first time on here. 4 of us are headed to Medellin, and from what I've heard, there exists concierge or hosts who will drop off girls at your AirBnb in the evening and pick them up in the morning. Does this sound like it's an option? Are any of you familiar with any reliable hosts that provide this service? Thanks in advance!! Will be sure to report back, in detail, about my experience!

MoonShot
08-12-22, 19:50
A lot of mongers assume that. Probably because they are on vacation and it is a treat for them. But those chicks see those places all the time so it is nothing new or amazing to them.

Home is always home no matter how shitty it may seem to someone else. If you went to work all day, then after work somebody invited you to a nice hotel to sunbathe and pig out, you may dig doing that a couple of times. But after about the third time you will be like fuck that, I just want to go home.

So if you think a chick is all excited to do that for the 1000th time, they are really not.I agree with this point. If you're working at your building and everything is really nice, you're still working and you rather go home and relax by yourself in your own place. You are giving yourself too much credit. Some girl sees it as having to spend more time with an ugly old man who is constantly touching her and wanting more sex as opposed to relaxing at home in your bed by yourself with some peace and quiet. It is a treat for them if you're not in the hotel room and they have it to yourselves and can invite their friends. Ja ja ja.

There is some case for it in the Philippines where the girls are dirt poor and don't even have a toilet inside the house. But in Colombia, they are poor but as poor as the girls in the Philippines.

KrunkMan4
08-12-22, 19:58
Hello,

I am new I want to visit Colombia but I am worried about safety and wanted to ask a few general questions.

1. How safe is Medellin in the day time and at night. Like should you never venture out at night at all or stick to certain areas? And which ones.

2. I know you can meet girls at bars and clubs like the strip bars and basic clubs. Can you basically just take any girl from a club and nicely ask her to go out or are.

Some more picky than others.

3. How likely are you to be poisoned it's hard to cut through the fear mongering fake news media, but what would you say how normally is this happening and does it happen less.

In Medellin than Bogota.

4. Should I even go to Bogota at all I hear it's rough.

5. How do you get from Bogota to Medellin when you fly in.

I know that was a lot but I would be real appreciative if you had some time to answer my questions.

Osteoknot
08-12-22, 20:29
A lot of mongers assume that. Probably because they are on vacation and it is a treat for them. But those chicks see those places all the time so it is nothing new or amazing to them.

Home is always home no matter how shitty it may seem to someone else. If you went to work all day, then after work somebody invited you to a nice hotel to sunbathe and pig out, you may dig doing that a couple of times. But after about the third time you will be like fuck that, I just want to go home.

So if you think a chick is all excited to do that for the 1000th time, they are really not.Usually it doesn't even take the third time, but at the end of most sessions, chicas would prefer to be in their own familiar environs. Of course, more money can easily shape that behavior which is why it obviously costs more money to spend a night with a chica than spend an hour in her company, if you are paying.

That is ego projection on the part of the mongerer onto the value system of the chica, believing the chicas are happier away from home just because the digs are nicer. Even when I had the corner deluxe Executive Suite at the Dorado, the chicas loved to show up and hang, but in the end, they preferred their little cramped puta motel, sharing a double bed with another chica perhaps, just like Freckle and the Little One.

You said it exactly right, for them, and all of us, home base is home base. We all want familiarity and to be able to reach out and touch or material possessions, large or small, at will.

The really fun part can be when you go to their hotel instead and squeeze in between them, jajajaja. But in the end, I had the same feeling and would want to return to my home base, no matter how hot the sex. One reason the set-up was so purrfekt with Freckle and the Little One in the foto, our hotels were a five minute walk apart.

Side note, admin apparently felt that need to intervene and not post a response I made earlier about not reading Elvis' itemized repsonse to me, especially when I specifically asked him to please not respond. That is his prerogative of course. But as I previously stated, I am simply documenting experiences for other users who can make up their own minds based on the information provided and not trying to change anyone's opinion who already has their way of doing things. The pitfall is when users have a need to share their way of mongering as the preferred way of mongering for everyone. That holds no interest for me and basically invalidates their viewpoint.

EverythingBlue
08-13-22, 00:04
Suggestions are always welcome but we have already seen this play out in the Costa Del Sol thread. There is some bad blood in there that resulted in separate threads for Club activity and non club activity. This is decidedly lame. Having to visit both threads. And people saying go see the other one.

I'the say any OT discussions in here you can just ignore. Keep it simple. One Medellin primary thread IMO.What I would find more useful is having a separate section for El Centro. A lot of posts here are related to that specific area in particular, and at times having to glance through so many posts and skip until finding some for El Poblado or Laureles can be time consuming. I speak as someone who looks for a different environment than El Centro. It would simplify understanding when someone reports about hotels or girls where they are found easily.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 00:24
What I would find more useful is having a separate section for El Centro. A lot of posts here are related to that specific area in particular, and at times having to glance through so many posts and skip until finding some for El Poblado or Laureles can be time consuming. I speak as someone who looks for a different environment than El Centro. It would simplify understanding when someone reports about hotels or girls where they are found easily.Interesting suggestion. Respect your right to choose. Oh wait, I think you simply unintentionally dangled your modifier, grammatically speaking. You meant the kind of posts you want to see would be more easily found here, I think.

The way you wrote it one could construe that you meant girls were not easily found in El Centro, and I was going to say, you've got to be kidding me, jajajaa. Regardless of yours or anyone's opinion of the quality of the chicas there, Finding them is definitely not the issue, jajajaja. Carry on.

Paulie97
08-13-22, 00:28
Depends on your relationships with said chicas... Did you happen to just read my previous post about how much money I have wasted on iPhones? You could argue I was gullible, stupid, whatever, I don't care. But I can tell you, I wasn't in any "danger" at any point. Nor was I trying to impress anyone so maybe that's to your point, a little. I was simply trying to make a few chicas happy. Money = Love. .How do you know you weren't in danger? Also money doesn't = love, and buying them IPhone 13's as you claim means that they are laughing at you behind your back. That's the relationship you have with these chicas.

Mr Enternational
08-13-22, 00:43
at times having to glance through so many posts and skip until finding some for El Poblado or Laureles can be time consuming.That is because nothing is going on in Poblado. Parque Lleras, Gustos, Facebook are all you need to know for that place. Laureles? Look on mileroticos and find some chick where you can walk to her apartment.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 00:51
A lot of mongers assume that. Probably because they are on vacation and it is a treat for them. But those chicks see those places all the time so it is nothing new or amazing to them.

Home is always home no matter how shitty it may seem to someone else. If you went to work all day, then after work somebody invited you to a nice hotel to sunbathe and pig out, you may dig doing that a couple of times. But after about the third time you will be like fuck that, I just want to go home.

So if you think a chick is all excited to do that for the 1000th time, they are really not.Not even three times. The chicas as a general rule much prefer their own digs. As we all do, where we can reach out and touch our material shit with familiarity, comforted by its presence. Even when I had the corner Executive Suite at the Dorado, the girls loved being there, but in the end, they all want to return to their home base. Money of course, being the modifier and why you pay more for an overnight than you do for two hours, obvio.

Even if returning to home base meant a small, cramped room in a puta motel and sharing a full bed with another chica, that will invariably be the chicas first choice. To wit, fotos of Freckle and the Little One in their room. The flip side to that coin, visiting them and climbing into that bed in between them, draped all over each other, was delicious and loving. Still, I would reach a point no matter how good the sex, when I would want to return home and I am sure they were just as glad to see me go. The saving grace? Our two hotels were a five minute walk apart. Loved it.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 01:35
Hello,

I am new I want to visit Colombia but I am worried about safety and wanted to ask a few general questions.

1. How safe is Medellin in the day time and at night. Like should you never venture out at night at all or stick to certain areas? And which ones.

2. I know you can meet girls at bars and clubs like the strip bars and basic clubs. Can you basically just take any girl from a club and nicely ask her to go out or are.

Some more picky than others.

3. How likely are you to be poisoned it's hard to cut through the fear mongering fake news media, but what would you say how normally is this happening and does it happen less.


In Medellin than Bogota.

4. Should I even go to Bogota at all I hear it's rough.

5. How do you get from Bogota to Medellin when you fly in.

I know that was a lot but I would be real appreciative if you had some time to answer my questions.Stay home and study Spanish. Preferably for about two more years, jajaja.

Surfer500
08-13-22, 01:57
What I would find more useful is having a separate section for El Centro. A lot of posts here are related to that specific area in particular, and at times having to glance through so many posts and skip until finding some for El Poblado or Laureles can be time consuming. I speak as someone who looks for a different environment than El Centro. It would simplify understanding when someone reports about hotels or girls where they are found easily.What you bring up about a separate section for Centro does make sense, but before the Pandemic, no, as it wasn't frequented as much as it is now.

The same holds true for Fayboo Chicas as well. I can remember before the Pandemic that at times there would be a lot of Fayboo posts you would have to go thru as your mentioning.

Colombia has gotten so popular, especially Medellin, that some new categories are warranted at least in my opinion being a poster here for several years.

Sangnyc21
08-13-22, 01:57
I am not sure who said that is not possible. I like the price discovery and honesty about pricing though.

No, you are missing the point. If I go to El Centro or Santa Fe, I have to go five times to find one woman I have to repeat with. If I go to La Isla, it is at least one girl per visit. Centro makes sense if I am staying six months or if I do not care about quality. If I am staying a week or so and care about quality, La Isla makes way more sense.

Of course, it does. Guys calculate costs when comparing the USA, Canada, Mexico, Europe, Asia, and Colombia. You are dreaming if you do not think that competition exists.

And they are not sniffers? But snorters? Do you think that matters to a lot of guys? Can you see how guys might not want to deal with that crap? How much does that add per visit? I would not call someone who snorts Tussi "clean". And if the women are doing that, how about shooting up and sharing needles? How can you be sure they are not doing that?

Osteo, you fucked that girl with that nasty ass rash. Twice I was with barrio girls with nasty rashes too. Once I told the gal to forget it, and the other I just got a covered BJ and did as little as I could to touch her. I doubt La Isla is going to have women working with rashes like I saw with your woman and those I saw.

Then there is the scopalamine. Oh yeah, that happened to you and to Paulie and a bunch of other guys. Has that happened at La Isla? Is it fair to say it is less likely to happen there? Management will kick anyone's ass who tries that shit. It would cost them money.

As one guy says, he has points at a hotel and so do I. I can stay a week in Medellin on my points. If the going rate is $90 for centro and $230 for La Isla, that is offset by the hotel costs but there is more to it. Once I start networking, I am going to have the La Isla girls staying for longer. They are going to be in a nice room, good bed, shower in hot water, have a functioning thermostat, sunning themselves by the pool, and pigging out on the free breakfast. A lot of the women do not want to go back to their shitty tiny apartments.

So if you add it all up: the time, the Tussi, the scopalamine, the health of the women, the quality of where you are staying, the women wanting to stay at the nice hotel, and the benefit of the hotel points, there really is not a $140 difference between La Isla woman and centro girls. It is way less than that.

And even if there was, the difference over 7 days is $980. That is less than one hour with the hot girl I linked to in the USA. Do you think $980 then matters to a lot of guys? Someone is paying that $1000 an hour. Even the fat pigs are charging $400 an hour in the USA.

If you are there 6 months like you are, that is tens of thousands. It makes sense to invest in Centro and collect a rolodex of hotties. I do not think if you are there a week it does make sense to do Centro unless you want to fuck five women a day. Maybe a guy goes once as a novelty.

I appreciate your being honest about what you pay and the looks of women you are fucking, but other guys have not been honest. It is really hard to know that a woman with a 22 inch waist is going to be in more demand than a woman at 40 inches?

These guys are not being helpful. They are bullying. They are jealous of guys getting better pussy than they are. The excuse they use is the week long warriors are driving up prices, but they are not going to Centro. The prices there are set by locals not foreigners.

I thought I was way overpaying when I went to Colombia. $90 a night for the quality of women you were fucking is about what I was seeing Osteo.While I agree with a lot of your points a couple things that I happen to know for a fact.

A. I think you're putting these La Isla girls on a pedestal. There use to be consistent talent there but last few times I went it wasn't great at all. I personally know a couple of girls and that leads me to point B.

Be. Girls in La isla will not hesitate to drug you and I know of girls that have done it.

The point is you can be drugged anywhere anytime in Colombia.

But I do agree that people who consistently post that others are driving up the price are completely delusional.

Regardless of who pays what, the girls still know how much guys pay in different countries.

And if the statement that the weekend warriors are ruining it were true, then you wouldn't see so many prepagos going to Europe or DR to work. But obviously the money is not there which is why so many go abroad to work.

The min salary might be 300 usd in Colombia but guess what?? IPhones still cost the same universally along with all the other vain necessities of an average 20 something year old girl.

Also I think it's a mistake many mongers make thinking because they're in a nice hotel they're doing these girls a favor.

No matter what home is home. And that's where these girls are comfortable until you build some sort of trust and they actually want to spend time with you.

Mr Enternational
08-13-22, 02:56
And if the statement that the weekend warriors are ruining it were true, then you wouldn't see so many prepagos going to Europe or DR to work. But obviously the money is not there which is why so many go abroad to work.
The money may be there, but they may have big eyes. That is not a hooker thing; that is a people thing. People have big dreams. They figure the grass must be greener on the other side. 9 times out of 10 they find out the juice is just not worth the squeeze. I do applaud them for venturing out though, because you do not know if you do not try.

I could stay here a long time talking about the stories of people I know that went off to a foreign country in search of better; hookers and non-hookers alike. Some have ended up in jail for a while. Some have made a better life for themselves. Some have ended back up at square one with a different outlook than when they first decided to try their luck.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 03:20
How do you know you weren't in danger? Also money doesn't = love, and buying them IPhone 13's as you claim means that they are laughing at you behind your back. That's the relationship you have with these chicas.Thank you for playing and for your valuable insights to my relationships with my chicas. That means a lot to me and I will be sure to alter my behaviors accordingly. Don't forget to take your meds.

Knowledge
08-13-22, 03:59
Maybe there should be another subsection for dick pics. But seriously, a separate section isn't a bad thing. I think it was about 10 years ago that a section was created for the Mansion when guys started arguing about the place.


What I would find more useful is having a separate section for El Centro. A lot of posts here are related to that specific area in particular, and at times having to glance through so many posts and skip until finding some for El Poblado or Laureles can be time consuming. I speak as someone who looks for a different environment than El Centro. It would simplify understanding when someone reports about hotels or girls where they are found easily.

Arthur62
08-13-22, 04:19
Let's celebrate finally getting my new Google Pixis 6 phone that was supposed to be here three days ago. I am digital again! The one effect I did not anticipate before my phone arrived was the amount of financial paralysis due to not being able to receive confirmation codes via SMS messaging without a phone and my old phone number. Maddening!

Ten more fotos of not-so-random chicas who will give you overnight GFE (GirlFriend Experience) for 300 mil COP, plus propina (tip) for good service, plus taxi, grand total under $90 USD. When I say "will", that doesn't mean you are supposed to PM me for their contact info. I don't do that for guys I don't know and even the ones I do, I am very selective.

There is not one dud in this bunch. If the chicas in this array cannot put a tingle in your dingle, well I got new for your miss amigos, that is your problema and not theirs!This is what I thought when I saw the skinny white beauty.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 04:49
Keep the jokes coming and they can keep laughing at me all they want if that's what you call this kinda fun, jajajaa. I can live with that. Feel the love.

There are a couple of fotos in there you might want to blow-up a little.

Huacho
08-13-22, 04:51
Hello,

I am new I want to visit Colombia but I am worried about safety and wanted to ask a few general questions.

1. How safe is Medellin in the day time and at night. Like should you never venture out at night at all or stick to certain areas? And which ones.

2. I know you can meet girls at bars and clubs like the strip bars and basic clubs. Can you basically just take any girl from a club and nicely ask her to go out or are.

Some more picky than others.

3. How likely are you to be poisoned it's hard to cut through the fear mongering fake news media, but what would you say how normally is this happening and does it happen less.

In Medellin than Bogota.

4. Should I even go to Bogota at all I hear it's rough.

5. How do you get from Bogota to Medellin when you fly in.

I know that was a lot but I would be real appreciative if you had some time to answer my questions.Definitely stay home.

Huacho
08-13-22, 04:53
What you bring up about a separate section for Centro does make sense, but before the Pandemic, no, as it wasn't frequented as much as it is now.

The same holds true for Fayboo Chicas as well. I can remember before the Pandemic that at times there would be a lot of Fayboo posts you would have to go thru as your mentioning.

Colombia has gotten so popular, especially Medellin, that some new categories are warranted at least in my opinion being a poster here for several years.You guys do know you can start threads, right? You are aware you can start whatever new categories you deem necessary?

KrunkMan4
08-13-22, 05:11
While I agree with a lot of your points a couple things that I happen to know for a fact.

A. I think you're putting these La Isla girls on a pedestal. There use to be consistent talent there but last few times I went it wasn't great at all. I personally know a couple of girls and that leads me to point B.

Be. Girls in La isla will not hesitate to drug you and I know of girls that have done it.

The point is you can be drugged anywhere anytime in Colombia.

But I do agree that people who consistently post that others are driving up the price are completely delusional.

Regardless of who pays what, the girls still know how much guys pay in different countries.

And if the statement that the weekend warriors are ruining it were true, then you wouldn't see so many prepagos going to Europe or DR to work. But obviously the money is not there which is why so many go abroad to work.

The min salary might be 300 usd in Colombia but guess what?? IPhones still cost the same universally along with all the other vain necessities of an average 20 something year old girl.

Also I think it's a mistake many mongers make thinking because they're in a nice hotel they're doing these girls a favor.

No matter what home is home. And that's where these girls are comfortable until you build some sort of trust and they actually want to spend time with you.I'm new so I really can't say much but I'm early 30's no kids. I live in LA and rent a room only 550 a month. After staying in Tijuana like a noob for a week in a luxury hotel I can tell you I came home thinking how do I even live in this shithole. So while the point about home is taken, I think it does matter to a certain extent but obviously a nice place won't automatically get a girl to fall in love with you. Especially if they go there a lot, but given the supply and demand ratio in Colombia I'm guessing they don't go every day. By comparison, I have had crab hundreds of times, that doesn't mean crab isn't one of my favorite foods just because it is subject to diminishing returns because I've had it a lot.

SouthernOcean
08-13-22, 11:10
What do you think about the Mansion? Is it really pussy central?

Surfer500
08-13-22, 14:29
The yield on phones, the appreciation factor, is close to taking a woman shopping, about zero. So if you want to get a woman a phone, definitely get the low end: Pixel, Samsung older mid range models, or the newer Motos. If you go on Amazon, you can get these for less than $200 and often close to $100.

Outside of getting some hot pics and being able to reach your chica more easily (maybe), you are going to get nothing in return. Buying a phone is a gift plain and simple. If you paid $500 a phone, do not think you are going to get $500 of appreciation or $500 worth of action. It does not work that way. It should, but it does not. For the most part, giving away a phone is a waste of money.Guys buying new "I" phones for Chica's, or even new phones for them is such a waste of money, but some guys here do it which is astonishing.

A better option is to buy a used phone from the street, with prices starting as low as 80,000 COP for a smart phone and up. Granted these phones are stolen, which I don't condone, but there are a lot of vendors, especially directly under the Metro overpass just up from Hotel Nutibarra. There will be vendors with folding tables, and a selection of phones. They of course don't have any chargers for the phones because as you can imagine they are all stolen. Hence you hear about all the phones being stolen in Central, someone steals a phone, show's up where the street vendors are, and the vendors know all the values of the phones, so perhaps they give the thief 1/3 to 1/2 the value of the phone.

When I went there with a Chica who was buying a phone, they would fire the phones up, and all of the former owner's Whatsapp contacts and everything else would pop up. She bought a smart phone for 120,000 COP and then got a new SIM Card and a charger at a shop nearby, and loaded up the phone with a week of data, and basically was out the door at about 150,000 COP, less than $ 50 USD and perhaps the only value is being able to contact the Chica (maybe as you mention).

Granted most guy's here are not going to be buying used phones off the street, but it is an option if a Chica asks a guy to buy her a phone, one might suggest she buy a used one off the street.

Surfer500
08-13-22, 14:40
Home is always home no matter how shitty it may seem to someone else. If you went to work all day, then after work somebody invited you to a nice hotel to sunbathe and pig out, you may dig doing that a couple of times. But after about the third time you will be like fuck that, I just want to go home.

So if you think a chick is all excited to do that for the 1000th time, they are really not.No matter how nice a guy's digs are, regardless of how fancy the place is, and the amenities, I think a lot of times the girls just don't want to spend any more time with a guy.

Imagine being a young twenty something with someone twice to three times your age, and perhaps fat and smelly, hence in many cases it won't be because they want to go home, but they want to get away from the guy after being paid.

Perhaps we are saying the same thing Mr. E.

Surfer500
08-13-22, 14:53
How do you know you weren't in danger? Also money doesn't = love, and buying them IPhone 13's as you claim means that they are laughing at you behind your back. That's the relationship you have with these chicas.I think everyone here has been played by Chicas to a certain degree.

I have, but not to the tune of anything approaching the value of a new "I" phone, and on a much smaller scale.

And there are lot's of Chica's who are very good at extracting things from guy's who think with their small heads.

As far as laughing at guy's, well besides this, they are also boasting about what they got to their girlfriends and boyfriends.

JjBee62
08-13-22, 15:29
What do you think about the Mansion? Is it really pussy central?In answer to your second question, no.

Your first question is more complicated.

The Mansion is a great place, for some people. Most of the people who will tell you bad things about it have never been there. For a certain style of mongering it is perfect. For other mongering styles it's a waste of money.

If you have never been to Medellin, never mongered solo in a foreign country, don't speak Spanish and aren't the adventurous type, you will probably be very happy with the Mansion.

Mtndew704
08-13-22, 15:35
All iPhones in this discussion are the latest Pro Models available.

Get back to me when you have felt 1/1000 of this pain, jajajaja.

Chica's phone gets stolen in El Centro while she is sitting in a taxi, using her phone, window down, door unlocked, and probably the taxi driver was in on it. You buy her a "cheap" Samsung for 400 mil COP and tell her if she can hang onto it for one year, you will buy her an iPhone. She does and you do, to the day. She drops the iPhone two weeks after you bought it for off the new Moto she was riding that you also paid for. You repair the iPhone for her at 600.000 mil COP.

That's one reason I hate Apple, repair costs are egregious.

Different chica rolled-up on by two guys on a motorcycle while she sits at Boston Park holding her infant child, and rob her at gunpoint of her iPhone, you replace it with a nice Motorola that costs half a million pesos. You tell her if she can hold onto the Motorola for one year, you will buy her another iPhone. She does, and you buy her an iPhone Pro13. One week later she gets robbed at knifepoint to eyeball, and you replace it with another same, iPhone that she still has but now she is not talking to you anymore for other reasons.

Different chica, robbed at gunpoint while she sitting in a taxi and using her iPhone that you bought for her. You have told her twenty times not to pull out her phone when she is in a taxi but she is oblivious to this advice. You buy her another iPhone. Less than a month later, she gets robbed and beat up in front of her apartment in Castilla by another chica for her iPhone. You tell her that her iPhone days are over. Two months later you buy her a used iPhone from one of her friends that she still has.

Same Moto chica from above, shows you her new iPhone that her rich novio from the Domincan Republic bought her. Now she has two iPhone Pro13's. You suggest it might be decent of her to return the iPhone you bought her to you since your old Samsung got stolen by an irate tranny at Ground Zero, and you are using a cheap burner phone that cost 1/10 of what you paid for her iPhone. She says she will sell you the iPhone that you bought for her for what amounted to a 5% discount, jaja.

Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head. I did not add up how many phones that comes to, jajaja. Not a good look for me, makes me look like a dumb shit, valid argument about which I happen to not agree. I don't care what other people think.

Oh, you should also realize the chicas don't really give a shit about the phone. They want the best camera on the market, that happens to be a phone.

I know what some of you are thinking (usually several steps ahead). The chicas were making up some of these stories to get phones. For every one of those stories above, multiply it by 10-15 for the number of times chicas tried to get phones out of me, but didn't. So I am not quite as gullible as you may think. Perception is reality and for reasons I won't expand upon, I believed those stories above.

The main point being, beware, it really is a jungle out there for stealing the upper branded phones, particularly, iPhones.

Pearl: From a distance the thieves are looking at the number and size of the lenses on the back of the phone to identify the iPhones for their targets. They make escutcheons or phone cases that have little sliding covers that will hide these lenses that I recommend using.

Ostee Out, and I will as always, Keep On Keepin' On.You seem to be a magnet for robberies.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 15:39
You seem to be a magnet for robberies.Considering I was not present at the scene of any of the crimes. Maybe you meant more like a "jinx", eh?

There was a lesson there independent of my own behaviors. I sort of summed it up at the end, including a useful Pearl.

Nounce
08-13-22, 15:47
...No, you are missing the point. If I go to El Centro or Santa Fe, I have to go five times to find one woman I have to repeat with. ...Not that what you said is not true, but you are probably doing it wrong if you go 5 times to find one.


...I would not call someone who snorts Tussi "clean". And if the women are doing that ...You don't really know if a woman is doing it or not until you put it in front of her. That is when you can tell.


...It is really hard to know that a woman with a 22 inch waist is going to be in more demand than a woman at 40 inches?...Narrower is not better. It depends. I went to La Isla with locals and they don't pull the ones with narrower waist. I see similar behavior at Scandallo. But if all customers are gringos, what you said can be true.

Nounce
08-13-22, 15:53
...Especially if they go there a lot, but given the supply and demand ratio in Colombia I'm guessing they don't go every day. By comparison, I have had crab hundreds of times, that doesn't mean crab isn't one of my favorite foods just because it is subject to diminishing returns because I've had it a lot.I have known a girl that shower at home before visiting me when we first met, and coming out of the bathroom all dressed up ready to leave when done. After a while, she started to always shower at my place, twice, before and after. She told me "you have hot shower".

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 15:59
This is what I thought when I saw the skinny white beauty.Very hard to pin down, but when you do, heaven on Earth. And a "lah-dee-dah" easy-going, whatever floats your boat, attitude. A lot of times stoned out of her mind. Easy to handle. She bailed on me in the middle of the night last time I had her for an overnight, appropriately accepted a greatly reduced rate of 200 mil COP, haven't seen or talked to her since, didn't try, either. Let me see if I can find a couple more fotos, she is definitely unique.

She's the one in the blue jeans, and that is Secret, her pimp who first brought her to me. The second foto is hilarious, that day we called her Zombie Girl as she was walking around for a long time with that look on her face. I laid her down on the bed and started fucking her face until she passed out. The Nervous Ninnies here don't have to worry, I get permission from all my chicas to use their bodies as I please whether they or concious or not. Doesn't happy very often but when it does, it's a good fallback and I recommend you broach the subject with any girl who drinks or does drugs ahead of time. BTW, they love it being objectified and used like that, and let's face, they aren't working too hard at the time, jajajjaja.

Anywho, unfortunately she still had a gag reflex and I may have been just a tad to aggressive or her throat because she starteled awake, ran into my bathroom, and threw up all over the floor. Didn't stop us.

All men are pigs. I am a man. Therefore, I am a pig.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 16:08
Maybe there should be another subsection for dick pics. But seriously, a separate section isn't a bad thing. I think it was about 10 years ago that a section was created for the Mansion when guys started arguing about the place.Seen a few dick banging pussy and mouth pics, is that what you meant Oh, Wise One? Funny what certain people fixate on.

You may want to consider enhancing your experience with a feature here known as the Ignore List.

Mtndew704
08-13-22, 16:13
Considering I was not present at the scene of any of the crimes. Maybe you meant more like a "jinx", eh?

There was a lesson there independent of my own behaviors. I sort of summed it up at the end, including a useful Pearl.The robbery started when you kept buying them phones.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 16:23
The robbery started when you kept buying them phones.I admit it sounds outlandish, mostly from guys projecting themselves into my situation. Saying it's a "waste" or some other value judgement is irrelevant, unless the poster is speaking for himself only. I would do it all again, but I have slowed the pace a bit, jajajaja. I get it, very hard for other guys to relate to a situation they would never consider, or just as, if not more likely, be able to complete even if they wanted to do so. Not saying you do.

The first step in psychologically protecting one's sense of self, is to reject concepts and behaviors that are too foreign for to conceptualize into one's own thought processes. That is mostly what is going on here, and not any real harm or waste or bad behavior.

Mojo Bandit
08-13-22, 16:25
What you bring up about a separate section for Centro does make sense, but before the Pandemic, no, as it wasn't frequented as much as it is now.

The same holds true for Fayboo Chicas as well. I can remember before the Pandemic that at times there would be a lot of Fayboo posts you would have to go thru as your mentioning.

Colombia has gotten so popular, especially Medellin, that some new categories are warranted at least in my opinion being a poster here for several years.


You guys do know you can start threads, right? You are aware you can start whatever new categories you deem necessary?As someone who has started a new thread I think most new threads started by BMs end up in the User Blog section and the one who started it is somewhat responisible for moderating it from then on. The Admin will still watch for blatent violations of Forum Rules but other than that it would be up to the user who started it to police the thread from being hijacked for purposes other than intended or start a discussion in the thread that widely off topic and ruins the idea of having the thread for purposes of being specific.

I have been reading the Medellin Reports thread for a few years and I have seen more Centro regulars call for a Fayboo thread because they do not want to read about Fayboo but then there are those who do only Fayboo who would want a Centro only thread. I have only been to centro a couple of times myself and since having knee surgury that made my knee worse I prefer to order off FB and have them come to my apartment.

But of the people who post regularly on here I think there really are more people who do both. Centro and Fayboo. So sometime a person's "Medellin Report" is going to be a mix that might read something like this "in the morning I went down to centro and this happen but in the evening I went to a strip club and did not see anything I liked so I went on FB and found something".

So while there seems to be people who start narrowing thier mongering method to either Centro or Fayboo and want the thread to be more specific for them but I really think there are actually more people who do both that make the thread what it is now.

If I was going to complain about anything (you know when someone says that they are about to complain LOL) concering this thread and I am just as guilty my self about this: experienced mongers stop doing reports. They instead get caught up about the details and stop describing the big picture stuff. Osteoknot might be the exception because he keeps a running diary on here LOL. But we get so caught up over the issues that we stop actually posting a report. I am just as guilty and the result is that the newest guys who are stumbling through their experience and learning as they go are the ones making the most actual "reports".

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 16:27
they are also boasting about what they got to their girlfriends and boyfriends.If by laughing you mean the chicas are happy, yes, I agree. And of course they boast, They are young girls in the middle of dream fulfillment. Geez, you guys make it sound so serious, when really, it's not.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 16:32
Perhaps we are saying the same thing Mr. E.You repeatedly get "powned" (that means pounded and owned at the same time) by reading comprehension here. Not so serious unless you hold yourself to the standard of a subject matter expert, then it gets a little dicey.

I don't. I am more of a sarcastic, attention who-ring, asshole, very comfortable with that.

Mr Enternational
08-13-22, 17:07
The yield on phones, the appreciation factor, is close to taking a woman shopping, about zero.
If you paid $500 a phone, do not think you are going to get $500 of appreciation or $500 worth of action. It does not work that way. It should, but it does not. For the most part, giving away a phone is a waste of money.They already see you as rich and to them you buying a phone is as simple and easy as you buying lunch. One chick stopped messing with me because she wanted me to buy her a Galaxy Note the same as I have so she could take pictures in the water like I was doing when were at the beach. All I could do was laugh. Might as well have asked me to buy her a car if she is going to ask for a $1500 phone.

NeilGeorge
08-13-22, 18:38
What do you think about the Mansion? Is it really pussy central?Kind of like Blackbeards in the DR. Its like shooting fish in a barrel. No chase, no accomplishment. Then you have to rest up for another. Like ordering a fish dinner in a restaurant instead of catching the fish and dominating it until it wears out its fight. Most of the girls at the mansion have fake tities, some are older, most are there because they make money. Not real. An illusion.

AmorPorFavor
08-13-22, 19:34
Keep the jokes coming and they can keep laughing at me all they want if that's what you call this kinda fun, jajajaa. I can live with that. Feel the love.

There are a couple of fotos in there you might want to blow-up a little.Did you find all these chicas on the streets of Centro?

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 19:53
Did you find all these chicas on the streets of Centro?No. None of those girls are El Centro chicas. If I was misleading, it was not intentional. Those are chicas I met on my own, starting with my Numero Uno Catgirl, then personal referrals or "friends of friends". I have meaningful relationships with all those chicas, despite the uninformed opinons you read here otherwise.

For that post I specifically looked for fotos of chicas who I knew I bought iPhones. I have bought fones for El Centro girls, but never an iPhone. I posted recently about the rebuilt Samsung I bought for one chica, which lead to banging all three sisters for a few sessions, which morphed into my GTGZG (Ground Zero Go-To-Girl). That was worth ten-times my original investment of 300 mil COP.

I also recently posted about the El Centro Nubian Princess who I would've bought a similar phone except I was days from leaving MDE. There have been others. I'm too busy at the moment to do my usual post who-ring of fotos.

Not one poster has identified the true core issue about my original post on buying iPhones. I'm driving down to Florida this afternoon (been home a week, already bored, jajajaja) and I will post about it later tonight or tomorrow. A few of you might find it interesting.

Thanks for tuning in and paying attention.

Surfer500
08-13-22, 20:17
Maybe there should be another subsection for dick pics. Well as it has been noted by other posters, anyone can start their own thread, so might as well have a section for butt fucking and ass licking as we've recently seen some photos of this.

Perhaps even a section for banging very pregnant Chicas, meaning Chicas that are at least seven months pregnant, and look like they are ready to pop. I think I saw some photos of that lately as well, or perhaps they were just fat girls. LOL.

The list could go on and on, and even include Sacaleros (glue sniffers) as well. LOL.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 20:50
I'm new so I really can't say muchI heard that was a problem in Tijuana, jeje.

BigButtDetecto
08-13-22, 21:22
Hey what's up everyone,

I'm new here to the forum. I've been to Medellin many times but I've had a real tough time finding these type of women. Anyone have any intel on these girls. There's a popular porn site in Colombia with these curvy bbws.These girls with a big booty and small waist are hard to find even in Colombia. Valle and atlantico especially buenaventura are the best place to find any. But is it worth the risk?

Bill
08-13-22, 23:09
The robbery started when you kept buying them phones.And the pixie dust probably didn't help much LOL.

Osteoknot
08-13-22, 23:27
And the pixie dust probably didn't help much LOL.And as clueless, as ever.

I definitely agree there are people who should never partake in recreational drugs. I have a friend, he gets violent when he drinks, therefore he doesn't drink.

A lot of people fear what they might do or become in an altered state. I call it a "reality bias". A large segment of that comes under the category of "weak minds". Then there is another large category of folks who either recovered from bad experiences or had a close family member with bad experiences in recreational drugs. I empathize with those people. If you have been paying attention, you would know that I started doing recreational drugs when I was 13 yo with the horrible "gateway" drug known as pot, Mr. Bill, Ohhhh Noooooo.

Never had a DUI. Never missed a day of work, never had a run in with law enforcement over drugs. Statistically, a good chance that I am much healthier than you.

If it all blows up on me tomorrow, and I have some sort of adverse consequence due to recreational drugs, I still won't have any regrets. Oh, also BTW if you've been paying attention, I don't do drugs in the US of A.

Let's see, for you, ummmm, I'm going to say your aversion to recreational drugs is from reality bias due to a weak mind. Is that about right?

You are semi-correct about one thing. I tend to be a little more generous under the effects, but it's not enough to cause me to do something I otherwise would not do. The proof in that is I always make the actual purchase decision in an unaltered state, just to be sure.

ChuchoLoco
08-14-22, 02:57
No. None of those girls are El Centro chicas. If I was misleading, it was not intentional. Those are chicas I met on my own, starting with my Numero Uno Catgirl, then personal referrals or "friends of friends". I have meaningful relationships with all those chicas, despite the uninformed opinons you read here otherwise.

For that post I specifically looked for fotos of chicas who I knew I bought iPhones. I have bought fones for El Centro girls, but never an iPhone. I posted recently about the rebuilt Samsung I bought for one chica, which lead to banging all three sisters for a few sessions, which morphed into my GTGZG (Ground Zero Go-To-Girl). That was worth ten-times my original investment of 300 mil COP.

I also recently posted about the El Centro Nubian Princess who I would've bought a similar phone except I was days from leaving MDE. There have been others. I'm too busy at the moment to do my usual post who-ring of fotos.

Not one poster has identified the true core issue about my original post on buying iPhones. I'm driving down to Florida this afternoon (been home a week, already bored, jajajaja) and I will post about it later tonight or tomorrow. A few of you might find it interesting.

Thanks for tuning in and paying attention.Not judging anyone on whether they buy or don't buy phones. BUT has almost every working girl had her phone stolen? I have heard this so many times in Medellin and San José. They all have have kids or mothers who are sick or just had electric or water cut off for non payment and they all have had their phones stolen. I just don't believe it. I think many of them may sell them for money or had an old cheap phone and want someone to buy them a new expensive one. Or they are just so fkn tonta and careless because they didn't spend their own money to buy it. You would think that they know a new iPhone or equivalent is a target so you would think they would hide it rather than show it off. That's one thing everyone here knows and says as advice. Carry a cheap phone or don't show what you have. Don't give the papaya. Another one is a cam girl who will tell you she got robbed on payday. All ploys to get free money or gifts in my whatever it's worth opinióand. I have given an old iPhone that I bought for a $100 for traveling away and it was well worth it. Once again, I just can't believe they all get their phones stolen and have so much sickness in their family.

Osteoknot
08-14-22, 03:03
Well as it has been noted by other posters, anyone can start their own thread, so might as well have a section for butt fucking and ass licking as we've recently seen some photos of this.

Perhaps even a section for banging very pregnant Chicas, meaning Chicas that are at least seven months pregnant, and look like they are ready to pop. I think I saw some photos of that lately as well, or perhaps they were just fat girls. LOL.

The list could go on and on, and even include Sacaleros (glue sniffers) as well. LOL.Or "low balling (there is a good pun there)". How about, "skulking in the shadows"? What else have you got, really? Do tell. Jajajaja. Carry on, as we all will and should, jajaja.

Vitrea
08-14-22, 08:16
Many may not relate but I can. I am just like that. I give girls iPhones. I call them my steadies. I see them on every trip for a year at least and some for 3 years and going. After 2 years they just bring friends and come. I just pay taxi money. It is a long game for me which is not so For many guys so it may not make sense for them to start doling out iPhones. I chose who I give to. She has to be pretty, no drama, never cancel on me, be smart. For example I organize parties and one of my steadies takes care of the entire logistics. She sends me photos and I approve some of her friends and invite few more of my own. She then organizes invites, RSVP, Rappi, taxi payments, late night pizza, party supplies and most importantly she keeps an eye on things, and make sure place is clean etc. They stay overnight for the price of ST. There is a real friendship element there and not just about the phone. Phone happens because of friendship and not the other way. So all outlier spending should have some context. I typically buy one or two models down from the latest and they are very happy with that. I bought nearly 20 phones in 5 years.

Someone said it is all about camera. Not quite in my experience. I had a girl give me back Samsung Ultra 20 for iPhone 10 XS at the time when you 20 and iPhone 12 were top models. They want to see apple logo followed by number of camera lenses in the selfie mirror. I still ask if they want best camera or iPhone and they choose iPhone two models down. (One of the best value phones for camera is Xiaomi and no one in CO wants it at half price of equivalent iPhone with much better camera).


I admit it sounds outlandish, mostly from guys projecting themselves into my situation. Saying it's a "waste" or some other value judgement is irrelevant, unless the poster is speaking for himself only. I would do it all again, but I have slowed the pace a bit, jajajaja. I get it, very hard for other guys to relate to a situation they would never consider, or just as, if not more likely, be able to complete even if they wanted to do so. Not saying you do.

The first step in psychologically protecting one's sense of self, is to reject concepts and behaviors that are too foreign for to conceptualize into one's own thought processes. That is mostly what is going on here, and not any real harm or waste or bad behavior.

VasyaPetya
08-14-22, 08:59
Stay home and study Spanish. Preferably for about two more years, jajaja.Do you need to know spanish really well? I can get by on very elementary level. Do some girls speak english there?

VasyaPetya
08-14-22, 09:24
The odds are grossly tilted toward crimes against gringos happening in the Poblado-Laureles-Sabaneta triangle. Outside that zone, it's of course much less likely because there are so much fewer gringos in the line of fire by comparison.So go to the hood then?

Paulie97
08-14-22, 10:03
Many may not relate but I can. I am just like that. I give girls iPhones. I call them my steadies. I see them on every trip for a year at least and some for 3 years and going. After 2 years they just bring friends and come. I just pay taxi money.If it gets to the point where they are serving up themselves plus their friends to you for nothing but taxi money then a one or two year old Iphone might be a decent investment. That's very unusual in this game though, graduating from paid to "free," or all the sex plus their friends that you want for an Iphone. I'm confident this is very rare though, regardless of any anecdotes we may read here. Gifts are just that in the mind of a Latin hooker. You get a "mucho gracias" most likely then are charged the same for any sex going forward while they will become much less shy about asking for more gifts, material or monetary.

There's also the issue of them dropping off the radar as many lose their phones and pick up new numbers or abandon their FB accounts in lieu of new ones. Would suck to give away a $600 new IPhone then find yourself unable to reach them. Plus how long do you think that phone is going to last? If it's not stolen (big if) then in most cases it won't last beyond the next crisis at which time it's sold or pawned. Most have a crisis a month if not more.

Lastly, though there are always rare exceptions to all rules, the typical guy who thinks these girls are his friends is abundantly deluded. "This one is different," no, she almost surely is not. And yes, guys like myself who don't roll that way have a lot of fun like many others but avoid some avoidable headaches. Girls may like some guys who give them whatever they want, but they don't respect them. And even any personally liking will go down the shitter the moment the goodies stop flowing. So that's the other side of the argument, that has a place in an open forum as well.

Enjoy gentlemen.

Eloket
08-14-22, 11:12
I don't care to count what number these day are. I disappeared for a while. But I'm still alive and back in pussy prison in Sweden. Good luck for me the more allowing city of Copenhagen is only a 30 min train ride away. In Copenhagen you can monger legally but at a high cost compared to Colombia.

Thursday I threw a party with my monger neighbor. He's a sugar daddy type of mongerer. I invited some chickas from my FB list. The party was not a success. He was in to deceiving the girls to let them think they could get a model contract if he took their pics. We partied for a while and then the chickas split without any bed performance being done. I was a bit unsure about the party plan beforehand and should have stuck with my gut feeling. Afterwards there was some upset texts from the chickas about being fooled. The neighbor blocked them and I was target of the blame.

My favorite chicka messaged Thursday afternoon saying she wanted to come but the invites for the party were already sent out. I think she got a bit jealous but accepted the fact. If she had reached out just a couple of hours earlier I would have saved myself a boring party and maybe had a marvelous evening at a lower cost.

Friday I was sleeping in after the party. Tried to fix 2 different FB chickas for a day job. One was working and the other one had gone to centro to buy clothes for her baby. I didn't have the energy to go find me a centro girl. I already had a date with my favorite set for the evening and hopefully the night.

When she turned up we went out for dinner and ended up at a sea food restaurant in Poblado. We had some local dish of grilled fish. So so, a bit salty and a lot of bones. Then back to my aparment to relax. She had actually packed clothes for next day and fixed someone to care for her dog (at my cost). We hadn't met in person for a week and it was a dear reunion. She's fun, patient with my bad Spanish and translator, kind and caring. Not the top looker but her personality well compensate for that. A really nice all night date ended in the morning with her rushing of to university classes.

Met with her midday and she took me on a tour to Pueblito Paisa (not worth the trip up the hill to me, far too little to see) and Parque Arvi. We did not have time to watch the park since I was due at the airport at 8 pm and had to go back to the apartment to pick up my bags. But the ride with the teleferico was amazing. We shared the wagon with some Colombians. This guy David struck up a convo on his struggling English. They were really nice and David, who was on a visit from Bogota, corked up a bottle of rum in the wagon, of wich we shared some shots. Typical Colombian hospitality.

Paulie97
08-14-22, 11:54
So go to the hood then?No. There's a lot of bad advice here sadly. Laureles and El Poblado are generally safe. Try to stay in well lit areas. El Centro is pretty safe in the day in the areas around the casas. You can go to the strip clubs in El Centro at night but taxi in and out.

Paulie97
08-14-22, 12:00
Do you need to know spanish really well? I can get by on very elementary level. Do some girls speak english there?If you have that much then you have much more then a lot of guys who have a very good time in Medellin. Google Translate has hugely improved over the years. Have it handy and you'll be fine.

Girls who speak English are rare which is good. The hookers are typically more hardcore in Latin American countries like Costa Rica where English is widely spoken. When they start telling you their rules in English and negotiating in dollars then it's a very bad sign. Wink.

Zeos1
08-14-22, 12:04
So go to the hood then?Where there are more tourists there will be a higher number of crimes involving tourists. So I don't think it was intended as advice to go to other parts. The actual crime rate is highest in the downtown area. But for crimes targeting tourists of course that would happen in the areas where there are more tourists.

Osteoknot
08-14-22, 12:27
Do you need to know spanish really well? I can get by on very elementary level. Do some girls speak english there?Use Google Translate on our smartphones. Use the word "oral" for blowjobs. There are other tidbits. Love and sex really is a universal language and you can get a lot to done with body language and the eyes, but if you don't speak Spanish, you will need to use Google Translate, on-line. I recommend downloading the app and not just connecting to the Google Translate Web page.

Earlier this week, I took delivery on a new Google Pixis 6 smartphone knowing that one of its features was that it does not need to be connected to the Internet to use the Spanish translator, it's preprogrammed. The phone also has dual-SIMS so you can drop in a SIM card from a local Colombian provider without losing the functionality of your carrier from the USA on the embedded eSIM. However, a fellow mongerer tells me this dual-SIM feature will not work in Colombia, for Google phones, yet. So that funcitionality remains to be seen for me, I will try it on my next return trip and report back.

Osteoknot
08-14-22, 12:56
Many may not relate but I can. I am just like that. I give girls iPhones. I call them my steadies. I see them on every trip for a year at least and some for 3 years and going. After 2 years they just bring friends and come. I just pay taxi money. It is a long game for me which is not so For many guys so it may not make sense for them to start doling out iPhones. I chose who I give to. She has to be pretty, no drama, never cancel on me, be smart. For example I organize parties and one of my steadies takes care of the entire logistics. She sends me photos and I approve some of her friends and invite few more of my own. She then organizes invites, RSVP, Rappi, taxi payments, late night pizza, party supplies and most importantly she keeps an eye on things, and make sure place is clean etc. They stay overnight for the price of ST. There is a real friendship element there and not just about the phone. Phone happens because of friendship and not the other way. So all outlier spending should have some context. I typically buy one or two models down from the latest and they are very happy with that. I bought nearly 20 phones in 5 years.

Someone said it is all about camera. Not quite in my experience. I had a girl give me back Samsung Ultra 20 for iPhone 10 XS at the time when you 20 and iPhone 12 were top models. They want to see apple logo followed by number of camera lenses in the selfie mirror. I still ask if they want best camera or iPhone and they choose iPhone two models down. (One of the best value phones for camera is Xiaomi and no one in CO wants it at half price of equivalent iPhone with much better camera).Obviously, you "get it" and much more than that, make it work. When I first came to this Web site, it was considered heresy if someone even suggested that a person "gifted" objects such as iPhones to these chicas. Fortunately, I concentrate on The Truth and not what others think. I am not trying to convince anyone else they should be buying iPhones but I am not going to pretend about what I do and what makes me happy. There are a lot of silent lurkers and observers who can see the situation for what it really it and are not swayed but opinions just because someone is a frequent flier here.

Your side comment about the camera was interesting and I agree somewhat. The camera is a status symbol from branding and for the quality of the fotos. You really can't argue about any loss of quality comparing the best of Samsung to the best iPhones.

My Numero Uno Novia Catgirl blew up on TicToc. She insists she needs her iPhone Pro Whatever to get the job done. As a result, she became financially independent from me for all her living expenses, so needless to say those iPhones were a worthwhile investment.

There are others who "get it" here but they just don't make as much noise as a few of the less enlightened detractors here. That's fine. They will make fun of you (us) for calling them our "steadies" or novias. They don't understand if your experience in real time is making you happy, then it works. They talk about getting laughed at or ridculed because that's how they see themselves in that situation, in order justify their unwillingess or inability to participate. In other words, classic projection.

I have never suggested anyone else should go out and buy two paper cups and a string for these chicas. I believe the "heart and soul" or the silent majority and a few of the other posters here, are more enlightened and open minded otherwise I would not waste my time. Oh, and thanks for the effective writing, also.

I am going to have one final major point on this topic later, but I am on the road right now, headed down to Florida. I just woke up so there may be cobwebs in this post, jajajaja. Ostee Out!

Paulie97
08-14-22, 13:48
Where there are more tourists there will be a higher number of crimes involving tourists. Which of course does nothing to make the case that it's a better idea to be the one obvious North American out partying in Manrique. It's just a Captain Obvious moment with no useful takeaways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am3FjwsNqXc

JjBee62
08-14-22, 14:40
Not judging anyone on whether they buy or don't buy phones. BUT has almost every working girl had her phone stolen? I have heard this so many times in Medellin and San Jos. They all have have kids or mothers who are sick or just had electric or water cut off for non payment and they all have had their phones stolen. I just don't believe it. I think many of them may sell them for money or had an old cheap phone and want someone to buy them a new expensive one. Or they are just so fkn tonta and careless because they didn't spend their own money to buy it. You would think that they know a new iPhone or equivalent is a target so you would think they would hide it rather than show it off. That's one thing everyone here knows and says as advice. Carry a cheap phone or don't show what you have. Don't give the papaya. Another one is a cam girl who will tell you she got robbed on payday. All ploys to get free money or gifts in my whatever it's worth opiniand. I have given an old iPhone that I bought for a $100 for traveling away and it was well worth it. Once again, I just can't believe they all get their phones stolen and have so much sickness in their family.What you believe doesn't change what is, and it's not important.

It doesn't matter what need some girl has, or claims to have. What matters is whether or not you want to give what she's asking for. If you don't want to, tell her no. If she persists, block her.

If you think you will somehow profit from giving, you're almost certainly wrong. The only guaranteed return on your investment is that the girl will ask you for something else.

JjBee62
08-14-22, 14:46
Use Google Translate on our smartphones. Use the word "oral" for blowjobs. There are other tidbits. Love and sex really is a universal language and you can get a lot to done with body language and the eyes, but if you don't speak Spanish, you will need to use Google Translate, on-line. I recommend downloading the app and not just connecting to the Google Translate Web page.

Earlier this week, I took delivery on a new Google Pixis 6 smartphone knowing that one of its features was that it does not need to be connected to the Internet to use the Spanish translator, it's preprogrammed. The phone also has dual-SIMS so you can drop in a SIM card from a local Colombian provider without losing the functionality of your carrier from the USA on the embedded eSIM. However, a fellow mongerer tells me this dual-SIM feature will not work in Colombia, for Google phones, yet. So that funcitionality remains to be seen for me, I will try it on my next return trip and report back.You can download any language to your phone with Google Translate so it's available offline. You can do the same with areas in Google Maps.

Mtndew704
08-14-22, 15:41
I admit it sounds outlandish, mostly from guys projecting themselves into my situation. Saying it's a "waste" or some other value judgement is irrelevant, unless the poster is speaking for himself only. I would do it all again, but I have slowed the pace a bit, jajajaja. I get it, very hard for other guys to relate to a situation they would never consider, or just as, if not more likely, be able to complete even if they wanted to do so. Not saying you do.

The first step in psychologically protecting one's sense of self, is to reject concepts and behaviors that are too foreign for to conceptualize into one's own thought processes. That is mostly what is going on here, and not any real harm or waste or bad behavior.I hear what you are saying and at the end of the day its your life and your money so do with it as you please. Buying a chica 1 phone is one thing and I wouldn't be against it down the road if the vibe is right. But if she ever lost it or got it stolen unless I saw it right in front of my eyes, I would never buy her a phone again.

Osteoknot
08-14-22, 16:32
I hear what you are saying and at the end of the day its your life and your money so do with it as you please. Buying a chica 1 phone is one thing and I wouldn't be against it down the road if the vibe is right. But if she ever lost it or got it stolen unless I saw it right in front of my eyes, I would never buy her a phone again.Very few of us are going to agree on these examples nor should we. Sharing can be fun and I learn a few things along the way.

I know it seems like I'm obsessed on psychological defense mechanisms, but only because projection and denial run rampant here.

Lefeu
08-14-22, 16:36
If it gets to the point where they are serving up themselves plus their friends to you for nothing but taxi money then a one or two year old Iphone might be a decent investment. That's very unusual in this game though, graduating from paid to "free," or all the sex plus their friends that you want for an Iphone. I'm confident this is very rare though, regardless of any anecdotes we may read here. Gifts are just that in the mind of a Latin hooker. You get a "mucho gracias" most likely then are charged the same for any sex going forward while they will become much less shy about asking for more gifts, material or monetary.

...Lastly, though there are always rare exceptions to all rules, the typical guy who thinks these girls are his friends is abundantly deluded. "This one is different," no, she almost surely is not. And yes, guys like myself who don't roll that way have a lot of fun like many others but avoid some avoidable headaches. Girls may like some guys who give them whatever they want, but they don't respect them. And even any personally liking will go down the shitter the moment the goodies stop flowing. So that's the other side of the argument, that has a place in an open forum as well.

Enjoy gentlemen.I am with you on this. I have had girls that I've been seeing regularly over 5+ years, but none of them gave me any freebies, nor brought friends for some fun. I am very much aware that if I were to stop providing the goodies, the fun will stop for me.

Osteoknot
08-14-22, 16:45
Not judging anyone on whether they buy or don't buy phones. BUT has almost every working girl had her phone stolen? I have heard this so many times in Medellin and San Jos. They all have have kids or mothers who are sick or just had electric or water cut off for non payment and they all have had their phones stolen. I just don't believe it. I think many of them may sell them for money or had an old cheap phone and want someone to buy them a new expensive one. Or they are just so fkn tonta and careless because they didn't spend their own money to buy it. You would think that they know a new iPhone or equivalent is a target so you would think they would hide it rather than show it off. That's one thing everyone here knows and says as advice. Carry a cheap phone or don't show what you have. Don't give the papaya. Another one is a cam girl who will tell you she got robbed on payday. All ploys to get free money or gifts in my whatever it's worth opiniand. I have given an old iPhone that I bought for a $100 for traveling away and it was well worth it. Once again, I just can't believe they all get their phones stolen and have so much sickness in their family.I think there was one family by the time I ended up replacing all the "stolen" phones probably everyone in three generations had a phone, jajaja. Including grandma and the dog!

Chew on that one for awhile mi amigos, jajajajaja.

Osteoknot
08-14-22, 17:22
I am with you on this. I have had girls that I've been seeing regularly over 5+ years, but none of them gave me any freebies, nor brought friends for some fun. I am very much aware that if I were to stop providing the goodies, the fun will stop for me.That similar actions can produce different results in different mongerers. I won't go into the reasons why, it's multifactorial.

As far as a right to expressing opinion, of course everyone also has that coming to them, but when they cross the line projecting their opinion and experience over to others as dogma, that,'s when I will step up and tell you it's not necessarily so.

Everything's fine when you (not you, figure of speech, I'm voice texting on my new smartphone) speak for yourself but when you start speaking for others as dogma, then you better be damn sure. I don't speak for others on this topic and I can tell you the ones who do, are not sure. Perhaps they might feel they are doing a a valuable public services or warning others and some do need that advice, I can understand and appreciate that.

Surfer500
08-14-22, 17:32
Saturday I decided to spend the night in Provenza with one of my Chicas whom I call Tall because she is tall. I like others her have nicknames as well for my Chicas based on their attributes.

I booked a room in a boutique hotel in Provenza of which there are a lot of them all over the area. I've stayed in several of them and consider a lot of them to be Love Hotel's, not in the sense you rent them for short time, but some are totally set-up for fucking meaning there is a king size bed, flat-screen TV, and aircon. Some of them have lots of mirrors, and I especially like the see thru showers at some of them. Kind of like perhaps Deseo's in Centro over half a century ago as far as the latest and greatest. I wonder some times if any of the mirrors on the ceilings there have ever fallen off, I'm sure they have. I've taken Tall to Provenza before, and the first time she was asking me what the mini-split AC unit was, what the exhaust fan in the bathroom was, and in one new place what the fire sprinkler system was. Of course she loved shampooing her hair, with hot water, and had never used a hair dryer before on her long beautiful hair.

Provenza is a barrio directly above the LLeras area with a lot of really good places to eat. My favorite there is Sombombi, and they hit it out of the park on Saturday. They change their menu every few weeks with some of the same, but always something unique on the menu. Last night I had some killer Sierra along with an incredible salad and a chicken dish. The place is very unpretentious, I've never seen a menu in English, but one or two people speak some English. The patrons are primarily Colombians, and the pricing is very reasonable as most dishes average about $ 10 USD. This place is very different than Carmen's and I think the food is just as good at a fraction of the price.

There are several other excellent places to eat in and around Provenza which I consider the fanciest part of Poblado for fine dining, versus the " dining dumps" in and around Parque Lleras. There's a bridge / intersection directly by the Quebrada that will have hundreds of tables / chairs set outside for dining in the streets as shown in the photo. To get to Provenza you walk up Calle 10 about four blocks up from Lleras and enter the area to the right, there will be a sign.

Forget going to Provenza to monger, you can go to the LLeras area for that.

Surfer500
08-14-22, 17:52
Many may not relate but I can. I am just like that. I give girls iPhones. I call them my steadies. I see them on every trip for a year at least and some for 3 years and going. After 2 years they just bring friends and come. I just pay taxi money. It is a long game for me which is not so For many guys so it may not make sense for them to start doling out iPhones. I chose who I give to. She has to be pretty, no drama, never cancel on me, be smart. For example I organize parties and one of my steadies takes care of the entire logistics. She sends me photos and I approve some of her friends and invite few more of my own. She then organizes invites, RSVP, Rappi, taxi payments, late night pizza, party supplies and most importantly she keeps an eye on things, and make sure place is clean etc. They stay overnight for the price of ST. There is a real friendship element there and not just about the phone. Phone happens because of friendship and not the other way. So all outlier spending should have some context. I typically buy one or two models down from the latest and they are very happy with that. I bought nearly 20 phones in 5 years..You sound as though you vetted your girls very well before giving these girls phones, and the pay off is huge.

Makes sense to me, but not everybody has had such luck. A lot of times guys get so enamored with the sex with these Chicas that they want them available, so hence buying them a phone makes sense before they've truly vetted them like you.

I've done exactly what you've done for a few of my Chicas, but it wasn't "I" phones, but a good $ 100 USD smart phone and the pay off has been huge, ie; the long game as you mention.

For guys totally enamored, getting a girl a used phone makes more sense, especially for the ones not vetted.

KrunkMan4
08-14-22, 18:58
I couldn't disagree more with this reasoning. It's true that opportunists go to areas like El Poblado looking for targets, but throwing yourself into the mix in high crime areas like Manrique and most areas of Bello with little police presence, loads of poverty and plenty of potential perps about for the most part carries higher risk, especially if you are out late partying and like most are unable to blend in. That said there's little stats for this as most foreign victims don't report the crimes. Plus there's little sampling in one respect as few are dumb enough to go up the hill to Manrique to party. Even remotely honest hookers would advise against it.

So moral of the story? Be wary of personal testimonies in monger forums. Many are unreliable, plus some are just in ISG posting for fun, making stuff up, and have never been to Colombia. Plus if true one person's limited experience is insufficient to draw conclusions as they could run out of luck tomorrow.The whole "machismo" aspect of "I get girls to fuck for free with just my hard cawkkkk". Feels strong in this thread. There are those that seem well edtablished with evidence but like I said before the whole crabs in a barrel feeling between men is quite powerful which I find extremely obnoxious. There will never be a time when the average ham and egger 9 to 5 er in America will be like "lets go to Colombia" Because in any war torn country of the past there will always be dangers and 95 % of Americans or even Western Europeans can't handle an environment without extremely government over regulation to protect them from thier own stupidity and familiarity with a McDonalds to spoon feed them at every corner particularly in the US.

So this idea of needing to keep 2nd teir specific safety knowledge a secret aside from general knowledge is stupid. Obviously, there is 1st tier generalized safety knowledge but in an environment where crime is rampant and to a certain extent idealized. 2nd tier specific knowledge is invaluable.

Knowledge
08-14-22, 19:05
Everyone gets to decide for themselves. In general terms, more gringos means more gringo crime victims. In specific terms there are many kinds of gringos. Some are more prone to becoming victims than others. I believe it boils down to a risk / benefit equation. Certain behavior that attracts attention brings more risk. I'm ignorant of what associated benefit there may be but I am always interested in learning.


So go to the hood then?

Knowledge
08-14-22, 19:08
My stock response is that classic bit of Colombian insincerity: "que pena. ".


Not judging anyone on whether they buy or don't buy phones. BUT has almost every working girl had her phone stolen? I have heard this so many times in Medellin and San Jos. They all have have kids or mothers who are sick or just had electric or water cut off for non payment and they all have had their phones stolen. I just don't believe it. I think many of them may sell them for money or had an old cheap phone and want someone to buy them a new expensive one. Or they are just so fkn tonta and careless because they didn't spend their own money to buy it. You would think that they know a new iPhone or equivalent is a target so you would think they would hide it rather than show it off. That's one thing everyone here knows and says as advice. Carry a cheap phone or don't show what you have. Don't give the papaya. Another one is a cam girl who will tell you she got robbed on payday. All ploys to get free money or gifts in my whatever it's worth opiniand. I have given an old iPhone that I bought for a $100 for traveling away and it was well worth it. Once again, I just can't believe they all get their phones stolen and have so much sickness in their family.

PolloNegro
08-14-22, 23:03
I am posting to the guys who are wondering and wanting to learn what's really available in our Magical Medellin. Asti Out.Oste really tries to help the new mongers. His stories seem so outlandish that they couldn't possibly be true? I have had the honor of hanging with him many times in Centro. I can tell you he was never in danger and I know danger in centro. The girls who I saw him with and the people who I saw him around posed no threat to him. They really treated him with respect and his is not a big brawny guy, he just knows how to handle himself around people and they respond respectfully to Oste.

I am posting the price of many of the phones in Medellin so that you can see the true value of a phone when you look at it from a Centro Rat's perspective. For kicks and giggles lets say you bought 40 phones into Colombia at a price tag of $1000 usd. Lets say you were able to sell everyone or if you were to trade every one or if you got robbed for a few, would it really matter?

I can personally tell you that I had a girl whom I really liked to keep a suitcase for me, so that I wouldn't have to travel with my suitcase on future trips. I was also testing her to see if she would steal the suitcase. Just as sure as Tuesday comes after Monday, I never saw the suitcase again and the suitcase had 8 brand new cell phones in the suitcase. Was I mad, no, did I bang the chic any more after that? Yes, but I never gave her an opportunity to have access to anything she could steal from me.

Now as Oste likes to say, Pollo, you are a true business man, I we have a running joke between us both. I just like to earn money when it is right in my face. So, imagine for every $25 usd you spend, someone pays you $175-$200 usd and you are saving them more than 50% on the price of the item in Colombia.

I won't beat a dead horse or explain the obvious, but there are some of us who are having a ton of fun in Medellin at a minimal price. I have been traveling to Colombia for 5 years, I now own a home, motorcycle, soon to buy a car, and who knows what is next. I paid attention, learned, paid my dues and stayed within the laws of Colombia and Medellin. If the loss of a couple of cell phones will have your underwear in a not, maybe you shouldn't be in the mongering game. You win some and you lose some. But you don't have to call your friendly board member a lie, because you are not able to accomplish what he is! Pollo Negro is out!

Knowledge
08-15-22, 00:20
This is what I was trying to say.


Where there are more tourists there will be a higher number of crimes involving tourists. So I don't think it was intended as advice to go to other parts. The actual crime rate is highest in the downtown area. But for crimes targeting tourists of course that would happen in the areas where there are more tourists.

MoonShot
08-15-22, 02:10
There will be others complaining about you do or mocking you for not paying what they pay. You don't know those anonymous people and you shouldn't care anything about what they say. Do what you want to do and don't worry about what others say. If you are happy with the outcome, keep doing what you're doing. Be true to yourself and pay what you want to pay.

As for overpaying, money is not same for everyone. If Bill Gates came to town and paid a girl $2000 US for two hours, you would say that he overpaid and is a sucker but Bill Gates wouldn't see it that way. He had a great time and the girl went all out for him. For Bill Gates, $2000 is nothing and he would probably feel guilty just giving her $50 for the great time she gave him because he has so much money. Not everyone coming to Medellin is pinching their pennies and living paycheck to paycheck.

Vitrea
08-15-22, 02:16
Do you need to know spanish really well? I can get by on very elementary level. Do some girls speak english there?You don't need any Spanish to have sex in Medellin. But basic Spanish is a must to have fun in Medellin. For the first few trips and for many people sexy equals fun so you're good. After that when you become a regular to Medellin, then you'll want to and start to have fun beyond the already amazing sex. And for that you need some Spanish. Of course that is pretty much true these days of Google translate, in any part of the world.

Vitrea
08-15-22, 03:06
I totally agree that what I do is rare and nor am I not saying that others should do what I do. Not at all. Like I said, it is my long game strategy. I would guess that less than 5% of the members here are into the long game. So for most people what I wrote may be irrelevant. It is just information. I didn't know anyone that does what I do until I read Osteoknot's post. This is a discussion forum so I was just sharing my own thoughts and tipping my hat to him.

The girls I am extra generous to are friends and not girlfriends. I actually tell them, . "Amigos con beneficios" and they get it. I have another life outside of Medellin. I am too busy to get involved in their private life. They can fuck who and when they want. So no illusions or delusions there. I do expect them to be somewhat available the days that I am in Medellin. I expect them to learn English and I give them resources and coach them. 30% follow through but I don't hold it against the ones that don't. I give them life advice if they ask. I have IG or FB as backup in case of number changes or robberies. And BTW, super majority of robbery stories are true. It is extremely common in the barrios. It is so common that the girls get sad but not angry. Please don't assume that girls are lying. Some do sell their gifted phones and that is out of pure desperation. Like if they are getting thrown out of a place or someone in hospital etc. I had couple of girls tell me after they sold the phones I gave them. They were too embarrassed to tell me before that they need to sell a gift. For many of these girls, a good quality phone is almost their entire net worth. Parting with it is not easy. And l don't care what a friend does with my gift as long the friendship lives.

BTW, The principal message in my post is friendship before gifts. "You give gifts to friends. You don't become friends because of gifts. " - Vitrea. Ja ja.


If it gets to the point where they are serving up themselves plus their friends to you for nothing but taxi money then a one or two year old Iphone might be a decent investment. That's very unusual in this game though, graduating from paid to "free," or all the sex plus their friends that you want for an Iphone. I'm confident this is very rare though, regardless of any anecdotes we may read here. Gifts are just that in the mind of a Latin hooker. You get a "mucho gracias" most likely then are charged the same for any sex going forward while they will become much less shy about asking for more gifts, material or monetary.

There's also the issue of them dropping off the radar as many lose their phones and pick up new numbers or abandon their FB accounts in lieu of new ones. Would suck to give away a $600 new IPhone then find yourself unable to reach them. Plus how long do you think that phone is going to last? If it's not stolen (big if) then in most cases it won't last beyond the next crisis at which time it's sold or pawned. Most have a crisis a month if not more.

Lastly, though there are always rare exceptions to all rules, the typical guy who thinks these girls are his friends is abundantly deluded. "This one is different," no, she almost surely is not. And yes, guys like myself who don't roll that way have a lot of fun like many others but avoid some avoidable headaches. Girls may like some guys who give them whatever they want, but they don't respect them. And even any personally liking will go down the shitter the moment the goodies stop flowing. So that's the other side of the argument, that has a place in an open forum as well.

Enjoy gentlemen.

Osteoknot
08-15-22, 03:15
Unlike chicas with whom I have developed long term relationships, GZGTZ (Ground Zero Go-to-Girl) was new this last trip, pure puta, great sessions, never came to my hotel room, and accepted payment below FMV (Fair Market Value). I will include a few fotos.

She Whassaps me every day since I left a week ago. After a day or two, she starts saying that she has no money for food. I ask her what happened to all the money I gave her from our sessions and she said she used it to pay off debt. And get a new tattoo, I noticed.

I tell her no, not one peso. Not so amazingly, the next day she tells me her birthday is the following day and asks me if will I gift her? A lot of new girls will try this basic ploy especially if you repeat on them. Pretty obvious little con but worth it for them to try it in case they catch a beginner or a softie. I tell her to send me a foto of the front and back of her cedula (government ID) which is what you always want to see before considering any birthday "gifts".

She says she will but after two more days the cedula is a no-show. I ask her why and now she says her sister has it. I tell her is she ever wants to see me again to stop treating me like a stupid gringo. I tell her the only chance she has of seeing another peso from me is in person, after sex. She asks when? I tell her I don't know. She is not a chica I can trust, yet, if ever, and she gets treated accordingly. She writes she will wait for me.

Osteoknot
08-15-22, 03:43
But if she ever lost it or got it stolen unless I saw it right in front of my eyes, I would never buy her a phone again.That means you bought a phone for a chica who you did not trust in the first place and I would recommend against that. Read what Vitrea wrote, again. He says it better than I did.


And BTW, super majority of robbery stories are true. It is extremely common in the barrios. It is so common that the girls get sad but not angry. Please don't assume that girls are lying. Some do sell their gifted phones and that is out of pure desperation. Like if they are getting thrown out of a place or someone in hospital etc. I had couple of girls tell me after they sold the phones I gave them. They were too embarrassed to tell me before that they need to sell a gift. For many of these girls, a good quality phone is almost their entire net worth. Parting with it is not easy.Phone theft and black market phones are an epidemic in Medellin. That is one of the main functions you see the policia doing during random stops. They are checking for stolen phones using the IME number. I have posted about this before and have been with a chica who was with me and Catgirl during a routine policia check, and then carted off to jail because the super-cheap phone she bought from a vendor off the street did not show her as the registered owner.

Like Vitrea, I am not suggesting anyone else buy these chicas two cups connected by a piece of string. I have often said, the happiest mongerer is what I somewhat disparingly refer to as a "wet mudhole fucker" because they are satisfied with the least, but that's not me. Don't fault me for what works for me. I am having too much fun. Well, I was having fun until I returned to Pussy Prison.

Mtndew704
08-15-22, 06:12
That means you bought a phone for a chica who you did not trust in the first place and I would recommend against that. Read what Vitrea wrote, again. He says it better than I did.

Phone theft and black market phones are an epidemic in Medellin. That is one of the main functions you see the policia doing during random stops. They are checking for stolen phones using the IME number. I have posted about this before and have been with a chica who was with me and Catgirl during a routine policia check, and then carted off to jail because the super-cheap phone she bought from a vendor off the street did not show her as the registered owner.

Like Vitrea, I am not suggesting anyone else buy these chicas two cups connected by a piece of string. I have often said, the happiest mongerer is what I somewhat disparingly refer to as a "wet mudhole fucker" because they are satisfied with the least, but that's not me. Don't fault me for what works for me. I am having too much fun. Well, I was having fun until I returned to Pussy Prison.I have never given a chica a phone. I'm also aware of the epidemic of the cell phone black market. Which is why I bring extras everytime I come down to offset my vacation costs.

Paulie97
08-15-22, 07:17
There will be others complaining about you do or mocking you for not paying what they pay. You don't know those anonymous people and you shouldn't care anything about what they say. Do what you want to do and don't worry about what others say. If you are happy with the outcome, keep doing what you're doing. Be true to yourself and pay what you want to pay.

As for overpaying, money is not same for everyone. If Bill Gates came to town and paid a girl $2000 US for two hours, you would say that he overpaid and is a sucker but Bill Gates wouldn't see it that way. He had a great time and the girl went all out for him. For Bill Gates, $2000 is nothing and he would probably feel guilty just giving her $50 for the great time she gave him because he has so much money. Not everyone coming to Medellin is pinching their pennies and living paycheck to paycheck.If you want to give away new $600 phones by all means do so. The critiques are simply aimed to introduce doses of reality for the reading audience who may be considering but aren't yet committed to these practices. That phone isn't liable to last more than a month before it's stolen, pawned, or sold. Plus it's very doubtful that it will get you much more in the way of service while in many instances it will frame you as gullible and worthy of disrespect. Charity is good though, but even Bill Gates would do well to look elsewhere for that. I'd rather put a bulletproof vest on a Ukrainian. And not everyone who refuses to buy $600 gifts for hookers is pinching pennies, far from it, so scratch that one.

P.S. The Bill Gates P4 P analogy is forced. Billionaires aren't in Medellin hitting up hookers on the street, in clubs or in Facebook. If they buy sex at all they are ordering them up for their yachts in areas like the south of France. But even if they were in Medellin there's no point in paying $2000 an hour or 20 to 40 times the going rate, even if you want her to put in some extra effort. We don't see billionaires going to car lots insisting on paying 40 times the sticker price just because they have more money than they'll ever need. You can bet your life they don't "feel guilty" for paying sticker price. Plus such typically isn't in the DNA of the super rich as they didn't get that status by throwing $ away. It's usually the pretenders that toss money around to draw attention to themselves, are constantly telling everyone how well to do they are, and you'll find plenty of these giving away new IPhones to hookers. But again, knock yourself out and "don't worry" about what guys like me say if your mind is already made up. On that point we are certainly on the same page. Wink.

Osteoknot
08-15-22, 07:33
Gawd knows I can flog a dead horse into dog meat. Done that many times, here.

Your responses tell me a lot. I learn some. I get to see who I believe has some actual experience at this mongering game, perhaps even a little enlightened, open-minded, perceptive, and non-judgmental.

The responses I enjoy the most, as I have said many times, is when a "lurker" comes out of the shadows and makes a constructive comment. That is fun for both parties.

I posted earlier that this was not a serious topic but there is one very serious aspect to it. A point that so far no one has mentioned even briefly in passing.

Chica safety. Every theft I originally described involved either a gun or a knife. Except for the one chica in front of her apartment in Castilla and she got hurt the worst of all of them, rolled by a much bigger, tougher, stronger chica. The robbers in Medellin will shoot you in the face for simply uttering the word, "no" and nothing more. If you take home one message, remember that one.

These phones represent checkerboard pieces in my life. I am not here to impress anyone. There would be a problem if I were engaging in some of the behaviors I described and couldn't pay my mortgage. That's not what is happening here.

Helloooo, McFly! The asinine part to my behavior is that I was putting these chicas at real risk of real physical harm. Girls about whom I care, some of them deeply. That is the core issue.

I was shaken to my core when the chica who got robbed twice once by gun and then by knifepoint showed me a stun-gun she bought to defend herself. I broke down and started crying in front of her which I am prone to do anyway because of my brain injury called PBA which can make me very emotionally labile, at times. I told her she was more likely to get killed or injured from trying to use the stun gun than prevent any actual theft.

I have a friend in MDE who bought his hot novia a moto. Now she's a paraplegic due to a moto accident. He's a stand-up guy, he still takes care of her. I am not sure if I could handle it as well as he does. There is a parallel issue here when my novias are getting repeatedly robbed of phones that I bought them by perps using guns and knives.

This is why I have decided to stop the madness and not continue to repeatedly buy these chicas the iPhones they want, and instead get them the phones that will still get the job done, even if it's not their first choice. You guys did help me with this, here. All of you. Thank you for that. I am not making a financial decision but a chica safety decision. I agree the best Xiaomi Redmi phones are solid with a camera that will rival anything on the market for much cheaper.

Some random gratuitous fotos, celebrating perhaps a wiser man, me: The chica on the moto is Catgirl, my Numero Uno.

SouthernOcean
08-15-22, 11:39
Having no trouble finding guest friendly airbnbs near Parque LLaras. Usually a 50 k to 70 k fee. Going to book in the next couple of days. My question is, is the Parque area the best to be in for pure sex? Any hotels in the area that are guest friendly. I read that extra guest fees may apply but get no straight answer on how much or how many I can have. Also is there a particular slang for anal sex in Medellin?

Will be there for a week. A hotel I stayed in in Costa Rica, I could run into fellow mongers coming and going and have a beer and tell lies. Any such hotel here. I have heard of the Mansion but am more inclined to search on a larger field.

JjBee62
08-15-22, 12:47
I absolutely hate the crabs in a barrel attitude when it comes to women that men have. Like there is some dire scarcity of women out there. In relation to this thread you ask simple questions or guidance and get the crab and barrel effect of no guidance and some dick telling you "just stay home brah. ". At face value very thinly veiled it looks as an attempt to preserve "my" safety but really it is an elitest post saying "I don't want to give any guidance because screw new adventures coming to my stomping grounds". Even if more adventurous coordinated and stuck together the experience would be safer.I think you failed to understand. However, it takes quite a bit of knowledge to grasp the deeper meaning behind "just stay home. ".

Safety, while picking up women for sex, in a foreign country, is a complex issue. Much of it depends on the individual. When people come along seeking simple answers to complex issues they seldom get an appropriate response. It has nothing to do with anyone protecting their hunting ground. It's an unwillingness to spend hours guiding someone through all the information he should have already discovered.

The best information I can give is "read the forum. " You will find answers to questions you didn't know you had. Start building a picture of what it's like. Once you know more you can ask better questions and you'll get better answers.

Surfer500
08-15-22, 13:43
I have never given a chica a phone. I'm also aware of the epidemic of the cell phone black market. Which is why I bring extras everytime I come down to offset my vacation costs.You bring "extras" to offset your vacation costs.

What do cell phones have to do with vacation costs.

What are the "extras" your talking about?

Huacho
08-15-22, 13:50
The whole "machismo" aspect of "I get girls to fuck for free with just my hard cawkkkk". Feels strong in this thread. There are those that seem well edtablished with evidence but like I said before the whole crabs in a barrel feeling between men is quite powerful which I find extremely obnoxious. There will never be a time when the average ham and egger 9 to 5 er in America will be like "lets go to Colombia" Because in any war torn country of the past there will always be dangers and 95 % of Americans or even Western Europeans can't handle an environment without extremely government over regulation to protect them from thier own stupidity and familiarity with a McDonalds to spoon feed them at every corner particularly in the US.

So this idea of needing to keep 2nd teir specific safety knowledge a secret aside from general knowledge is stupid. Obviously, there is 1st tier generalized safety knowledge but in an environment where crime is rampant and to a certain extent idealized. 2nd tier specific knowledge is invaluable.So go, get robbed, tell us where it happened, and we will have more 'second tier specific safety knowledge. ' Or you could RTFF. You say you find people on this thread 'obnoxious. ' So why don't you take a hike?

Osteoknot
08-15-22, 14:25
If you think you will somehow profit from giving, you're almost certainly wrong. The only guaranteed return on your investment is that the girl will ask you for something else.How do you know, that other than speaking for yourself, from what another person profits? Does anyone here consider giving in its truest sense, when you really should not be concerned with the outcome? What if giving makes the giver intrinsically happy? Then, haven't they "profited"? Does there have to be a direct material benefit and result on your "investment"? Who says there has to be an ROI (Return on Investment) to justify the giving? An so on, and so on. . . Aren't these all personal decisions?

Fun Luvr
08-15-22, 14:28
Having no trouble finding guest friendly airbnbs near Parque LLaras. Usually a 50 k to 70 k fee. Going to book in the next couple of days. My question is, is the Parque area the best to be in for pure sex? Any hotels in the area that are guest friendly. I read that extra guest fees may apply but get no straight answer on how much or how many I can have. Also is there a particular slang for anal sex in Medellin?

Will be there for a week. A hotel I stayed in in Costa Rica, I could run into fellow mongers coming and going and have a beer and tell lies. Any such hotel here. I have heard of the Mansion but am more inclined to search on a larger field.I have never heard of an Airbnb charging a chica fee. I think guests are either allowed, or not. There are various posts in this thread and in the "User blogs" section mentioning hotels and their guests policies.

The Mansion is the only hotel in Medellin similar to the gringo hotels in San Jose.

Mtndew704
08-15-22, 17:17
You bring "extras" to offset your vacation costs.

What do cell phones have to do with vacation costs.

What are the "extras" your talking about?I bring cellphones from the USA and sell them to people in Colombia.

Chicago85
08-15-22, 18:44
If you want to give away new $600 phones by all means do so. The critiques are simply aimed to introduce doses of reality for the reading audience. ......And not everyone who refuses to buy $600 gifts for hookers is pinching pennies, far from it, so scratch that one.

P.S. .......It's usually the pretenders that toss money around to draw attention to themselves, are constantly telling everyone how well to do they are, ..... While I don't think this is the case with Osteoknot, I will say that there is plenty of this behavior going on, particularly in Cartagena (look for 'making it rain' videos). It will become more widespread in Medellin before long, I'm sure.

Chicago85
08-15-22, 18:53
.... For kicks and giggles lets say you bought 40 phones into Colombia at a price tag of $1000 usd...

Now as Oste likes to say, Pollo, you are a true business man, I we have a running joke between us both. I just like to earn money when it is right in my face. So, imagine for every $25 usd you spend, someone pays you $175-$200 usd and you are saving them more than 50% on the price of the item in Colombia.

I won't beat a dead horse or explain the obvious, but there are some of us who are having a ton of fun in Medellin at a minimal price. I have been traveling to Colombia for 5 years, I now own a home, motorcycle, soon to buy a car, and who knows what is next. I paid attention, learned, paid my dues and stayed within the laws of Colombia and Medellin. If the loss of a couple of cell phones will have your underwear in a not, maybe you shouldn't be in the mongering game. You win some and you lose some. But you don't have to call your friendly board member a lie, because you are not able to accomplish what he is! Pollo Negro is out!How are you able to bring in 40 phones at a pop? I've brought them, laptops, rare scotch in and re-sold to friends, but I always understood the limit was 3 or 4 phones before they tax you on the remainder. My luggage is also scanned 90% of the time. Am I missing something?

JjBee62
08-15-22, 19:19
How do you know, that other than speaking for yourself, from what another person profits? Does anyone here consider giving in its truest sense, when you really should not be concerned with the outcome? What if giving makes the giver intrinsically happy? Then, haven't they "profited"? Does there have to be a direct material benefit and result on your "investment"? Who says there has to be an ROI (Return on Investment) to justify the giving? An so on, and so on. . . Aren't these all personal decisions?Exactly. You get the joy of giving. If giving doesn't bring you joy, chances are you get nothing at all.