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DaVinci40
08-15-22, 19:32
Does anyone have any reports on girls in Medellin at the moment? I've gone back almost 6 pages and it's been about someone's thing with cell phones. Wouldn't this be better in Medellin chit chat and keeping this section to girls?

Knowledge
08-15-22, 20:24
This looks much better than the chicken stand behind Veracruz Church or La Raza in the Nutibara. But serously, Sambombi is a winner, especially since they upgraded their wine list. El Botanico up the street next door to oci. Mde is really popular with tourists and punters. The food isn't nearly as good as Sambobmi or oci but no one will give a second glance no matter what kind of street urchin you bring in there. So it's a better choice for certain situations. I have to get more organized like you Surfer so I can reserve in advance and get a table at Sambombi. I usually default to Ammazza or Rocoto if I'm with a date and I can't get at table. You are right that the clientele is mostly Colombian. They get a fair amount of gringos who are foodie types rather than the random party crowd that are drawn like moths to a flame to whichever joint has the loudest DJ. Truth be told, most of the establishments in Provenza are bars or fast food joints that all blend into a blare of reggaeton and salsa. There are however 10 or so high quality spots like Sambombi.


Saturday I decided to spend the night in Provenza with one of my Chicas whom I call Tall because she is tall. I like others her have nicknames as well for my Chicas based on their attributes.

I booked a room in a boutique hotel in Provenza of which there are a lot of them all over the area. I've stayed in several of them and consider a lot of them to be Love Hotel's, not in the sense you rent them for short time, but some are totally set-up for fucking meaning there is a king size bed, flat-screen TV, and aircon. Some of them have lots of mirrors, and I especially like the see thru showers at some of them. Kind of like perhaps Deseo's in Centro over half a century ago as far as the latest and greatest. I wonder some times if any of the mirrors on the ceilings there have ever fallen off, I'm sure they have. I've taken Tall to Provenza before, and the first time she was asking me what the mini-split AC unit was, what the exhaust fan in the bathroom was, and in one new place what the fire sprinkler system was. Of course she loved shampooing her hair, with hot water, and had never used a hair dryer before on her long beautiful hair..

MiamiBoy1
08-15-22, 20:49
Having no trouble finding guest friendly airbnbs near Parque LLaras. Usually a 50 k to 70 k fee. Going to book in the next couple of days. My question is, is the Parque area the best to be in for pure sex? Any hotels in the area that are guest friendly. I read that extra guest fees may apply but get no straight answer on how much or how many I can have. Also is there a particular slang for anal sex in Medellin?

Will be there for a week. A hotel I stayed in in Costa Rica, I could run into fellow mongers coming and going and have a beer and tell lies. Any such hotel here. I have heard of the Mansion but am more inclined to search on a larger field.Pure sex? Why don't you stay in El Centro then?

Parque Lleras sucks. The park is under construction, the girls are still there, but not as many as before, be ready to pay 4-6 times El Centro rates (aka gringo rates). Talent is average or below average. Good luck!

Knowledge
08-15-22, 20:50
You can bring in anything in any quantity. Your luggage is subject to x-ray or other inspection and, at the discretion of customs agents, undeclared items that are discovered are subject to fines and / or confiscation. I don't have a feel for how often that sort of thing happens. A customs agent once asked me how many laptops I had in my luggage. When I told him three, he asked if they were new. They weren't new and when I told him that he waved my along.


How are you able to bring in 40 phones at a pop? I've brought them, laptops, rare scotch in and re-sold to friends, but I always understood the limit was 3 or 4 phones before they tax you on the remainder. My luggage is also scanned 90% of the time. Am I missing something?

Mtndew704
08-15-22, 20:58
How are you able to bring in 40 phones at a pop? I've brought them, laptops, rare scotch in and re-sold to friends, but I always understood the limit was 3 or 4 phones before they tax you on the remainder. My luggage is also scanned 90% of the time. Am I missing something?He speaks spanish and its Colombia so anything is possible.

JackTaggart
08-15-22, 23:12
You can bring in anything in any quantity. Your luggage is subject to x-ray or other inspection and, at the discretion of customs agents, undeclared items that are discovered are subject to fines and / or confiscation. I don't have a feel for how often that sort of thing happens. A customs agent once asked me how many laptops I had in my luggage. When I told him three, he asked if they were new. They weren't new and when I told him that he waved my along.Not that this is anything to rely on, but last time in El dorado I went through the x-ray the person was reading a book and not even really facing the scanner. At another airport they didn't care about a bag being 3 kg over the weight limit.

Mtndew704
08-15-22, 23:44
Perfect example of crabs in a barrel, men really need to treat each other better with the advent of mental health issues especially and a culture particularly in the US that tells women to see us as walking wallets this cdabs in a barrel stuff needs to stop.

Also, I doubt it would take hours to explain. Obviously, some issues are complex but I found the answer to most of my questions anyway, I did comb the forums, but a general question would be what are some of thenon obvious ways you can be poisoned.Leaving your drink unattended.

Chicago85
08-16-22, 00:02
You can bring in anything in any quantity. Your luggage is subject to x-ray or other inspection and, at the discretion of customs agents, undeclared items that are discovered are subject to fines and / or confiscation. I don't have a feel for how often that sort of thing happens. A customs agent once asked me how many laptops I had in my luggage. When I told him three, he asked if they were new. They weren't new and when I told him that he waved my along.Yeah, my experience is the same as yours. I've been stopped flying into both the Dominican Republic and Argentina when I had 3 laptops. In both cases I had: 1) work laptop, 2) personal laptop), and 3) US purchased laptop for friend. Thankfully none were in the original box and they let me pass along after looking through my stuff and me insisting they were all for me. I imagine things would be different if I had 40 iPhones though as no plausible deniability. For that reason I never bring more than one or two extra phones for friends and always older used models.

Knowledge
08-16-22, 02:02
There are lots of available girls here in Medellin. Some are more attractive than others and prices range from 30 K to 10 times that amount or more. That about covers it. You can search for maps or addresses. I think you will find some facebook profile links here as well.


Does anyone have any reports on girls in Medellin at the moment? I've gone back almost 6 pages and it's been about someone's thing with cell phones. Wouldn't this be better in Medellin chit chat and keeping this section to girls?

ColombiaLover
08-16-22, 02:53
Your luggage gets scanned 90% of the time? Do you mean after you pick up your luggage, but before you exit the airport? I ask because I can't remember the last time I had my luggage scanned in MDE and I travel once a month. Wonder what there is about you or your luggage that begs for a scan. Or maybe I'm not following you.


How are you able to bring in 40 phones at a pop? I've brought them, laptops, rare scotch in and re-sold to friends, but I always understood the limit was 3 or 4 phones before they tax you on the remainder. My luggage is also scanned 90% of the time. Am I missing something?

Chicago85
08-16-22, 02:57
Your luggage gets scanned 90% of the time? Do you mean after you pick up your luggage, but before you exit the airport? I ask because I can't remember the last time I had my luggage scanned in MDE and I travel once a month. Wonder what there is about you or your luggage that begs for a scan. Or maybe I'm not following you.Yeah, after I pick up my luggage from the belt there's sometimes someone checking if you have anything to declare and then a larger scanning machine. I think they probably wave over 50% of people, but for me it's much more than that. I've been to Cali 2 x this year and same thing. BAQ once and I don't recall if there was a scanner or not. I'm an unassuming early 40's guy usually dressed business casual. I guess I look suspicious LOL.

Fun Luvr
08-16-22, 04:21
Your luggage gets scanned 90% of the time? Do you mean after you pick up your luggage, but before you exit the airport? I ask because I can't remember the last time I had my luggage scanned in MDE and I travel once a month. Wonder what there is about you or your luggage that begs for a scan. Or maybe I'm not following you.The last time I went in through MDE (in June), they were scanning all luggage. That was the first time they scanned my luggage in at least 10 trips.

Tasss
08-16-22, 05:29
I have a set of mental filters to try to eliminate fat or unfriendly girls.

- Fake tits, not only do I dislike fake tits, it's a sure sign that the girl has been around and / or has / had sponsors. Expect a mediocre experience at best.

- No face pics, with the quantity of FB chicas in MDE, why deal with the uncertainty of what she looks like.

- No body pics, only face pics, likely fat.

- No recent pictures, no story posts, possibly using old pics and have gained weight.

- If you don't like fat chicks, look for thick upper arms in the photos. This a tip from a girl. Photo filters can make a face look skinny but usually leave the arms alone.

- Pics of trips to countries abroad (usually Mexico, Dubai, parts of Asia), been around money before. Also home-bound mongers in those countries spoil them with $, may still be sponsoring them while the girls are back in Colombia.

Asitis
08-16-22, 13:32
9th of August.

I needed to release the tension of 2 days without fucking and I knew I would not last long. I chose the easy way of Zandaly.

Around 1 pm. 7 girls.

Girl: Natasha from Zandaly. She was the only one smiling.

Room with shower, top floor.

Session: shower, small talk, CBJ, girl on top, missionary, doggy, missionary, pop, small talk, shower.

Girl attitude: basic, just another workday. I offered her a drink afterward (while waiting for my uber) and she showed me videos of her twerking, funny.

Damage: 50 k /30 min.

10th of August.

Casa: calle 50#77 a-11 / nice and clean place, room with shower.

Girl: Sofia, 23 yo (small (1 m50) trigueña with nice big natural boobs, nice ass, cintura pequeña, nice face (for me) with high cheekbones, smiling, nice soft skin, some tattoos.

Photos: mileroticos "Sofía Flaca Tetona Natural Muy caliente" and photoprepagos "Sofía 310530 XXXX, hermosa flaca para pasar un rato agradable".

Reviews: on catadorcolombia Sofia 310530 XXXX (4 different ones).

Session: Shower, small talk, music, paja rusa me on top (very nice), nice wet kissing without tongue though (delicious plump lips), BBBJ, 69, girl on top facing me (nice view on her bouncing tits), slow and deep missionary (estrechita), doggy (nice view), 69 again, back to deep missionary, pop. Nice talking for the last 10 minutes.

Girl attitude: very GFE girl (except for the tongue while kissing), very smily and compliant, moves very well, wet kissing the whole session.

Damage: 140 k /1 hour + 40 k oral natural.

She also does 100 k / half an hour and 120 k / anal.

I might repeat with her and take the whole pack with anal. I really liked her attitude and body.

11th of August.

Casa: Urbanization California del Poblado, cra 41#24-131 / you have to ask the security guard to call for the girl before he lets you in, no ID check, first building, 10th (or 12th?) floor, nice and clean apartment, nice room with shower in front. There is another room with bathroom included. 4 girls working there but when I went (11 am) Nikolle was alone.

Girl: Nikolle Smith, 24 yo (1 m70 blanca with nice big fake boobs, nice ass, cute face (for me), smiling, nice soft skin, small peritonitis scar.

Photos: masajistaspaisas "Nikolle Smith New 313551 XXXX".

Reviews: on catadorcolombia Nikolle 313551 XXXX (2 different ones).

Session: Shower, small talk, music, sweet kissing without tongue and quite shy though, CBJ, 69, girl on top facing me (nice view of her tits) moving hard, missionary, doggy (nice view), missionary, pop, talk, shower.

Girl attitude: smily and compliant, moves very well and quite hard.

Villainy
08-16-22, 15:26
Since it's a serious topic let me just submit a couple things should be added to the "Lazy person's guide to safety in Medellin".

First don't go out and get as drunk as you would on a vacation in Las Vegas. Keep your wits about you. As someone from a rich country (most any country relative to Colombia) you are a target. Be aware of this fact always and don't let your guard down.

Second don't allow a chica to bring her amiga, prima or hemana (friend, cousin or sister) along to your apartment or hotel room. While at first it may sound like a sexual fantasy in reality it's often a common ploy to rob you one way or another. Keep it one chica at a time until you get to know them well enough that you trust them.

And lastly for new guys reading Osteo's posts just realize the chicas take care of him as he is "the golden goose that keeps on giving". So don't even think to try and replicate his style.Thanks Lucky Nuts and those are excellent additions to the "Lazy person's guide". They fulfil the dual purpose of excellent advice and they have been written about extensively in the forum.

LeoGalder
08-16-22, 15:47
Hello Guys!

I read last 50 pages of your reports of Medellin and I really appreciate your contribution.

My question is if you can be specific and let me know where to look for hot women in Medellin- I know this is subjective but still.

We know how 9/10 or 10/10 looks like for a majority of the guys. I just need a little direct guide in one post where to get hottest girls in.

Medellin.

I will be staying 10 days in Medellin in December. My Spanish is beginner. Medium (I basically understand everything just need to sharpen it a little bit till December).

I would say I am a quite attractive European guy and well situated so money isn't really the problem. Can you tell me where to look for best chicas.

Any particular club / disco, restaurant or should I try tinder. And what are hourly rate / day rate for good looking chicas so I don't get fooled.

I would really be grateful for your answer. And also do you think Medellin is the best place for mongering in Colombia?

Thank you dear friends!

PepolesBuddy
08-16-22, 15:56
While I tell you about my trials and errors en mde.

1) living here is a whole different game then vacation. Daily life is heavy here and I thank god for my privileges every day here.

2) in the 3 months I've been here. After 40+ dates and only sleeping with about 10 of them. I've finally gotten my harem.

3) chemistry is something that money can't buy and I'm about quality vs quantity.

4) the one in blue is a digital marketer for her father, the one in the middle is a future dentist in 2 years, the one on the right owns her own nail salon.

5) take time to get to know the girls you're fucking, invest in them emotionally / mentally / and obviously money. If you're able to connect with them at a emotional intelligent level. They will show you perspectives of medallo that even the richest person in the world will never get to experience. These girls showing me their families, inviting me to outings etc. Is something that money can't buy and google can't find.

5) shout out to Ricerocket999 for being my inspiration. Respect the Asian king of medallo. Long live the king!

Osteoknot
08-16-22, 16:11
Jajaja, other than it's not genuinely funny, I cannot tell you the number of times chicas will write me asking for money because "they have not eaten" and will include a foto at the same time that shows them obviously fattened up. Granted, they could be talking about short-term hunger.

I remember my last trip, the first time I saw Spanish Teacher who was telling me she did not have enough to eat for weeks and she had to be five kilograms fatter than when I first saw her.

GZGTG is being persistent about requesting money for food, including this morning, even though her pics also show weight gain since I left a little over a week ago. Funny how they don't seem to make that connection between the verbal and the visual.

Anywho, I have a fairly standard response in these situations: "I'm sorry, my love, you're going to have to help yourself the way you did before you met me". Doesn't stop them from asking again but that approach seems to keep the lines of communication open without pissing them off, which means they are still ready and anxious to fuck upon my return.

That's another thing I will say as enticement is to these chicas who ask for money, "You will only get money from me in person, next time after we have sex."

Of course, you can simply say no, but I believe in building relationships, not tearing them down. There's nothing to be gained by ever being insulting or degrading to these chicas. You can hang onto your wallet and keep the relationships running smoothly at the same time.

Osteoknot
08-16-22, 16:47
I have a set of mental filters to try to eliminate fat or unfriendly girls.

- Fake tits, not only do I dislike fake tits, it's a sure sign that the girl has been around and / or has / had sponsors. Expect a mediocre experience at best.

- No face pics, with the quantity of FB chicas in MDE, why deal with the uncertainty of what she looks like.

- No body pics, only face pics, likely fat.

- No recent pictures, no story posts, possibly using old pics and have gained weight..I don't believe there is a correlation between fake tits and the experience you will have with the chica and here's why. First of all, it's not binary, there are great boob jobs and horrible ones. The Cadillac is under the muscles with virtually invisible scars in the anterior creases of both axillae. When you grab a boob you are not even touching the implant. They move and bounce naturally. Believe it or not, a lot of guys will not even know they are seeing and handling a boob job. This is what I bought my ex-wife and the only "criticism" she would get is "they might not be real because they look too good".

As for the "entry level" boob job, the "anchor cut". Huge scars. Chicas go for this because they don't have the money and they don't care as much what they look like nude. They are more concerned with their shape and figure under their clothes.

Also, in my experience a girl could just as well give exceptional performance after having "been around" as you put it. Depends on how she puts to use what she learned along the way, jeje.

Finally, the "fake tits" aversion a lot of guys have probably says more about the observer bias, than the chica who owns the tits.

Not trying to get you to change what works for you, just some additional feedback. I think boob jobs are probably the most polarizing physical feature on a chica for guys in general, not just for mongers, would you agree?

I judge the chicas who had boob jobs on a "boob by boob" case, jajajajaja.

Recondite
08-16-22, 17:19
I disagree a bit with the fake tits. One of my all-time favorites I met via FB has implants. So I think YMMV on implants and there are some good ones out there. Then again, I don't mind implants at all if they are well done. Also, the whole mileage thing doesn't really matter to me as long as she's cool. I want a girl who knows how to fuck and some experience helps in that department.

You do bring up some good physical things to look out for. I'd add that with filters, you should expect most of them to be darker than they look in their pictures. Also, I find you roll the dice a bit more with some of the nonpros that don't post bikini or underwear photos. Some may have C-section scars or stretch marks if they've had a kid. For me, that's not the end of the world, especially if you are fucking them for free / price of taxis.

Ultimately, I think their attitude and communication style is just as important. I've never had a bad time with a chica I met that promptly and consistently answered my chats or was happy to just chat for a while. I tend to avoid the ones that say Hello, and then answer your response two days later. You have to expect that they are all having five to ten conversations simultaneously. But if they are forgetting they are even talking to you they are either not very interested in you (if you are going for a nonpro) or are not very interested in working for you / your money (if you are going for a pro).


I have a set of mental filters to try to eliminate fat or unfriendly girls.

- Fake tits, not only do I dislike fake tits, it's a sure sign that the girl has been around and / or has / had sponsors. Expect a mediocre experience at best.

- No face pics, with the quantity of FB chicas in MDE, why deal with the uncertainty of what she looks like.

- No body pics, only face pics, likely fat.

- No recent pictures, no story posts, possibly using old pics and have gained weight.

- If you don't like fat chicks, look for thick upper arms in the photos. This a tip from a girl. Photo filters can make a face look skinny but usually leave the arms alone.

- Pics of trips to countries abroad (usually Mexico, Dubai, parts of Asia), been around money before. Also home-bound mongers in those countries spoil them with $, may still be sponsoring them while the girls are back in Colombia.

LoveItHere69
08-16-22, 17:24
I disagree a bit with the fake tits.You are listing the exception not the rule. Most girls with boobs jobs are average at best. SO many girls like you to look and feel their boobs, but just a little. Most do not like you to really feel or suck on them like their tits should be admired from a distance.


- If you don't like fat chicks, look for thick upper arms in the photos. This a tip from a girl. Photo filters can make a face look skinny but usually leave the arms alone.Look at their knees if possible. Bad photoshopped knees are hilarious.

TadaiMaybe
08-16-22, 17:48
I have a set of mental filters to try to eliminate fat or unfriendly girls.

- Fake tits, not only do I dislike fake tits, it's a sure sign that the girl has been around and / or has / had sponsors. Expect a mediocre experience at best.

- No face pics, with the quantity of FB chicas in MDE, why deal with the uncertainty of what she looks like.

- No body pics, only face pics, likely fat.

- No recent pictures, no story posts, possibly using old pics and have gained weight.

- If you don't like fat chicks, look for thick upper arms in the photos. This a tip from a girl. Photo filters can make a face look skinny but usually leave the arms alone.

- Pics of trips to countries abroad (usually Mexico, Dubai, parts of Asia), been around money before. Also home-bound mongers in those countries spoil them with $, may still be sponsoring them while the girls are back in Colombia.Right on the money sir. Very observant and this applies to any of the platforms the chicas frequent.

Osteoknot
08-16-22, 20:39
Living here is a whole different game then vacation . . . take time to get to know the girls you're fucking, invest in them emotionally / mentally / and obviously money. If you're able to connect with them at a emotional intelligent level. They will show you perspectives of medallo that even the richest person in the world will never get to experience. These girls showing me their families, inviting me to outings etc. Is something that money can't buy and google can't find.Well said. I have also received inspiration from the Asian King of Medallo (not sure what that means, jaja). The standards are different when you have your "harem" of long-term steadies who you trust and have built relationships. Once a chica trusts you and feels safe around you, the experiences are truly loving and special. Good for you. You sound happy and that's who I am usually going to notice when it comes to modeling behaviors.

Osteoknot
08-16-22, 20:59
You are listing the exception not the rule. Most girls with boobs jobs are average at best. SO many girls like you to look and feel their boobs, but just a little. Most do not like you to really feel or suck on them like their tits should be admired from a distance.Sounds like personal bias from too small a sample size, to me. Just guessing but that's what it sounds like.

I have a large, statistically significant sample size and I would have to report nearly opposite results. Perhaps there are other reasons for this discrepancy but I can't think of one off the top of my head.

Like I posted before, boob jobs, a very polarizing topic.

AdamWl
08-16-22, 22:36
Some fucker just tried to rob me.

I decided to check out Plaza Minorista around lunch time. Followed Avenida de Greiff. Starting from Plazuela Franciso Antonio Zea the area gets rough, full of trash, and lots of homeless people, some even camping in tents, all like that right up until the roundabout next to Plaza Minorista.

I didn't want to walk back the same way so went looking for a safer route. I knew the general direction towards which I should be going and just followed the crowd from Plaza Minorista, bunch of home supplies shops around, tiles, chairs etc. Relatively clean and no homeless. About two blocks from Plaza Botero a guy started walking next to me and struck up a conversation. Where am I from etc. He started in Spanish then switched to botched English. We exchanged couple friendly words, names, handshake, he said "Welcome to Colombia" and split to the right. I continue walking.

There was a short and empty street. I noticed the guy is back walking alongside me, he waved and came close. He put his arm around my neck to give me friendly 'hug', more like a strong squeeze. I jiggled out of it and continued walking. He asked for money with no so friendly look now. OK so it's like that then, I better get the fuck out of this situation ASAP. I stalled to buy some time and eventually gave him some 2's I keep loose in my pocket and picked up my pace, hoping he'll piss off. He wasn't satisfied. He started pointing to a wallet in my pocket. I decidedly said no. He tried to take off my backpack, but I didn't allow him, pushing his hands back on couple attempts. Some random guy carrying big black trash bag walked nearby curiously observing the scene, he didn't look homeless just like a local (the would be robber too BTW, he wasn't wearing rugs just normal clothes and a cap).

We are out the quiet street now. I stopped in front of one of the hardware shops with the shopkeeper moving his stuff around. We were standing there three of us, the robber then wanted to use my phone 'for a minute'. I repeatedly said 'no' with 'no fucking way, period' attitude and we were just staring at each other. He tied to pull it out form my pocket. Again, I pushed off his attempts.

After a while he went couple meters forward and waited with the guy which was carrying a trash bag. Then they disappeared somewhere but I knew they are waiting. The shopkeeper shrugged his shoulders and went back to doing his stuff. I noticed another shop in the opposite direction and darted that way. Surely, the guy was soon next to me. I stopped next to the shopkeeper and a customer, again said 'no' to the guy and waved for him to go the fuck away. He walked away and I lost sight of him.

I was getting closer to the crowds, halfway between Carrera 53 and 52 on Avenida de Greiff I noticed him again on the other side of the street, walking parallel and looking at me. He then started his attempt to cross the street to cut me off and I decide to cross as well to avoid that and join the crowds on the other side. We meet on a little concrete patch in the middle of the Avenida de Greiff and he attempts again to pull out my phone and I push him back. I run across the street just before the traffic starts to move, so he's cut off now.

Finally he catches up with me on the crosswalk between the corner of Carrera 52 and Plaza Botero but gives up another attempt. We exchange not so friendly looks as he walks north on Carrera 52 and blends with the crowd. Taxi driver standing next to his car points at him and asks me what's going on. Not sure how to explain it, I just say 'Celural. Puta. ', seemed he understood. I'm in no mood for play so move thought the crowds to Parque Berrio station and catch a metro back home.

Fuck. If he had a knife or decide to hit me in the face I'd be probably done for, since he was stronger than me. Clearly he wasn't prepared or too sure of himself but saw an opportunity. I don't dress fancy; sneakers, blue jeans, simple t-shirt and no jewellery nor a watch, but there is no mistaking me for a local either.

Deafcon
08-17-22, 00:32
Some fucker just tried to rob me.

I decided to check out Plaza Minorista around lunch time. Followed Avenida de Greiff. Starting from Plazuela Franciso Antonio Zea the area gets rough, full of trash, and lots of homeless people, some even camping in tents, all like that right up until the roundabout next to Plaza Minorista.

I didn't want to walk back the same way so went looking for a safer route. I knew the general direction towards which I should be going and just followed the crowd from Plaza Minorista, bunch of home supplies shops around, tiles, chairs etc. Relatively clean and no homeless. About two blocks from Plaza Botero a guy started walking next to me and struck up a conversation. Where am I from etc. He started in Spanish then switched to botched English. We exchanged couple friendly words, names, handshake, he said "Welcome to Colombia" and split to the right. I continue walking.

There was a short and empty street. I noticed the guy is back walking alongside me, he waved and came close. He put his arm around my neck to give me friendly 'hug', more like a strong squeeze. I jiggled out of it and continued walking. He asked for money with no so friendly look now. OK so it's like that then, I better get the fuck out of this situation ASAP. I stalled to buy some time and eventually gave him some 2's I keep loose in my pocket and picked up my pace, hoping he'll piss off. He wasn't satisfied. He started pointing to a wallet in my pocket. I decidedly said no. He tried to take off my backpack, but I didn't allow him, pushing his hands back on couple attempts. Some random guy carrying big black trash bag walked nearby curiously observing the scene, he didn't look homeless just like a local (the would be robber too BTW, he wasn't wearing rugs just normal clothes and a cap).Scary stuff. Why wouldn't you immediately call an Uber or flag down a cab the first time you stopped at the shop?

KrunkMan4
08-17-22, 00:41
Some fucker just tried to rob me.

I decided to check out Plaza Minorista around lunch time. Followed Avenida de Greiff. Starting from Plazuela Franciso Antonio Zea the area gets rough, full of trash, and lots of homeless people, some even camping in tents, all like that right up until the roundabout next to Plaza Minorista.

I didn't want to walk back the same way so went looking for a safer route. I knew the general direction towards which I should be going and just followed the crowd from Plaza Minorista, bunch of home supplies shops around, tiles, chairs etc. Relatively clean and no homeless. About two blocks from Plaza Botero a guy started walking next to me and struck up a conversation. Where am I from etc. He started in Spanish then switched to botched English. We exchanged couple friendly words, names, handshake, he said "Welcome to Colombia" and split to the right. I continue walking.

There was a short and empty street. I noticed the guy is back walking alongside me, he waved and came close. He put his arm around my neck to give me friendly 'hug', more like a strong squeeze. I jiggled out of it and continued walking. He asked for money with no so friendly look now. OK so it's like that then, I better get the fuck out of this situation ASAP. I stalled to buy some time and eventually gave him some 2's I keep loose in my pocket and picked up my pace, hoping he'll piss off. He wasn't satisfied. He started pointing to a wallet in my pocket. I decidedly said no. He tried to take off my backpack, but I didn't allow him, pushing his hands back on couple attempts. Some random guy carrying big black trash bag walked nearby curiously observing the scene, he didn't look homeless just like a local (the would be robber too BTW, he wasn't wearing rugs just normal clothes and a cap).Sorry you had to go through that man.

Its shocking that he kept coming back even when you tried to blend into the crowd multiple times.

MiamiBoy1
08-17-22, 00:50
I have a set of mental filters to try to eliminate fat or unfriendly girls.

- Fake tits, not only do I dislike fake tits, it's a sure sign that the girl has been around and / or has / had sponsors. Expect a mediocre experience at best.

- No face pics, with the quantity of FB chicas in MDE, why deal with the uncertainty of what she looks like.

- No body pics, only face pics, likely fat.

- No recent pictures, no story posts, possibly using old pics and have gained weight.

- If you don't like fat chicks, look for thick upper arms in the photos. This a tip from a girl. Photo filters can make a face look skinny but usually leave the arms alone.

- Pics of trips to countries abroad (usually Mexico, Dubai, parts of Asia), been around money before. Also home-bound mongers in those countries spoil them with $, may still be sponsoring them while the girls are back in Colombia.Finally some informative post after pages of BS regarding baggage scanning and iPhones. I can add a few more points to your list. If a chica in question has very few pictures, I always politely ask for more pics or a social media account, preferably Instagram. If she sends me an additional selfie or two, and no full body pics, or no Insta, I wish her all the best and end the conversation. Happened to me sooo many times. She has a few selfies on SA or FB, I ask for more pics, she sends me more selfies which are almost the same as the ones she posted (wtf? Good point about upper arms, also look for thick waist. I also avoid chicas with blurry or low quality photos. I understand they have shitty phones, but this is not my problem, if she sells pussy online or wants to date / find a SD, she has to have good clear pics, period. Pics of trips to countries abroad. This could be a good or a bad thing. Good thing is that she would have plenty of pics of high quality, and some stories and videos, so her looks may be assessed correctly. Bad thing is that she might be spoiled and not interested in meeting. Some guys would not even give it a try, thinking, oh, she is probably high maintenance or her rates are too high. Or thinking she is too hot for them. I don't give a shit, I message all the hot girls I can find, and see what happens. Because I have nothing to lose. In most cases, they don't even respond, or indeed, ask for too much money, but I was lucky enough to meet a few whose rates were reasonable despite the image of a "luxury, high maintenance girl", so there is always a chance of hitting a jackpot, but you got to try.

Knowledge
08-17-22, 02:37
Video chat with no filters or move on is my advice. It's so time consuming to wait around and then find out the girl is underwhelming.


Finally some informative post after pages of BS regarding baggage scanning and iPhones. I can add a few more points to your list. If a chica in question has very few pictures, I always politely ask for more pics or a social media account, preferably Instagram. If she sends me an additional selfie or two, and no full body pics, or no Insta, I wish her all the best and end the conversation. Happened to me sooo many times. She has a few selfies on SA or FB, I ask for more pics, she sends me more selfies which are almost the same as the ones she posted (wtf? Good point about upper arms, also look for thick waist. I also avoid chicas with blurry or low quality photos. I understand they have shitty phones, but this is not my problem, if she sells pussy online or wants to date / find a SD, she has to have good clear pics, period. Pics of trips to countries abroad. This could be a good or a bad thing. Good thing is that she would have plenty of pics of high quality, and some stories and videos, so her looks may be assessed correctly. Bad thing is that she might be spoiled and not interested in meeting. Some guys would not even give it a try, thinking, oh, she is probably high maintenance or her rates are too high. Or thinking she is too hot for them. I don't give a shit, I message all the hot girls I can find, and see what happens. Because I have nothing to lose. In most cases, they don't even respond, or indeed, ask for too much money, but I was lucky enough to meet a few whose rates were reasonable despite the image of a "luxury, high maintenance girl", so there is always a chance of hitting a jackpot, but you got to try.

RedMau5
08-17-22, 03:37
About two blocks from Plaza Botero a guy started walking next to me and struck up a conversation. Where am I from etc. He started in Spanish then switched to botched English. We exchanged couple friendly words, names, handshake, he said "Welcome to Colombia" and split to the right. That above was your mistake. Just should have ignored and keep walking.

Surfer500
08-17-22, 03:53
Some fucker just tried to rob me.

Fuck. If he had a knife or decide to hit me in the face I'd be probably done for, since he was stronger than me. Clearly he wasn't prepared or too sure of himself but saw an opportunity. I don't dress fancy; sneakers, blue jeans, simple t-shirt and no jewellery nor a watch, but there is no mistaking me for a local either.Your very lucky, you encountered a rookie thief.

I know guys (gringos) that have had knives pulled on them in the middle of the day while walking along the glass covered walk way by the Veracruz Church.

And a lot of the Colombians / Venezuelans, both men and women in Centro carry knives to protect themselves.

Sorry to hear about what happened, at least you didn't get robbed, let alone sliced up.

You can never let your guard down anywhere in Colombia.

It's good that you posted about what happened to you, as it's a reminder of how easy it is to get jacked up in Colombia.

MiamiBoy1
08-17-22, 04:11
Video chat with no filters or move on is my advice. It's so time consuming to wait around and then find out the girl is underwhelming.Video chat is not always an option, because they have shitty phones and slow internet / wifi.

Huacho
08-17-22, 04:14
That above was your mistake. Just should have ignored and keep walking.Yes. Anyone who says 'Hello, my friend' is not your friend and you are not there to make friends anyway.

Mtndew704
08-17-22, 04:18
Finally some informative post after pages of BS regarding baggage scanning and iPhones. I can add a few more points to your list. If a chica in question has very few pictures, I always politely ask for more pics or a social media account, preferably Instagram. If she sends me an additional selfie or two, and no full body pics, or no Insta, I wish her all the best and end the conversation. Happened to me sooo many times. She has a few selfies on SA or FB, I ask for more pics, she sends me more selfies which are almost the same as the ones she posted (wtf? Good point about upper arms, also look for thick waist. I also avoid chicas with blurry or low quality photos. I understand they have shitty phones, but this is not my problem, if she sells pussy online or wants to date / find a SD, she has to have good clear pics, period. Pics of trips to countries abroad. This could be a good or a bad thing. Good thing is that she would have plenty of pics of high quality, and some stories and videos, so her looks may be assessed correctly. Bad thing is that she might be spoiled and not interested in meeting. Some guys would not even give it a try, thinking, oh, she is probably high maintenance or her rates are too high. Or thinking she is too hot for them. I don't give a shit, I message all the hot girls I can find, and see what happens. Because I have nothing to lose. In most cases, they don't even respond, or indeed, ask for too much money, but I was lucky enough to meet a few whose rates were reasonable despite the image of a "luxury, high maintenance girl", so there is always a chance of hitting a jackpot, but you got to try.A lot of the "luxury, high maintence girls" seem to be going to Cartagena where they can charge a higher rate then in Medellin. Or they are just completely leaving the country and making more money than they would ever get in Colombia regardless of the city. The pandemic and the ability to make money over the internet without ever having meet the guys face to face has changed the game some too.

Gabacho
08-17-22, 04:31
Some fucker just tried to rob me.

I decided to check out Plaza Minorista around lunch time. Followed Avenida de Greiff. Starting from Plazuela Franciso Antonio Zea the area gets rough, full of trash, and lots of homeless people, some even camping in tents, all like that right up until the roundabout next to Plaza Minorista.

I didn't want to walk back the same way so went looking for a safer route. I knew the general direction towards which I should be going and just followed the crowd from Plaza Minorista, bunch of home supplies shops around, tiles, chairs etc. Relatively clean and no homeless. About two blocks from Plaza Botero a guy started walking next to me and struck up a conversation. Where am I from etc. He started in Spanish then switched to botched English. We exchanged couple friendly words, names, handshake, he said "Welcome to Colombia" and split to the right. I continue walking. and we were just staring at each other. He tied to pull it out form my pocket. Again, I pushed off his attempts.You mention you were on degreiff walking back towards the botero area but was this dude following you from the area to the west as you were walking back?

I know this area you are talking about between like Prado and Minorista. Lots of homeless people and drug addicts and like zero police presence. There's a place where homeless people can go to shower its called servicios basicos DIA #2 or some shit like that. Lots of drugs and drug addicts in this area they smoke a drug called bazuko which is similar to crack. I've been thru there once but I had a vennie with me. Although I never had anyone try to mess with me like what you're describing, I did feel alot of bad vibes there.

I would not recommend walking through there alone. Probably not even with locals, there's nothing over there anyways unless if you wanted to buy drugs which I wouldn't recommend either.

Mr Enternational
08-17-22, 04:32
About two blocks from Plaza Botero a guy started walking next to me and struck up a conversation.It was at this moment that you fucked up. No need to even say Hello, to random dudes that approach you. The only thing they could possibly want is money. Just give them a look like leave me the fuck alone and keep walking.

FlowState985
08-17-22, 05:35
Some fucker just tried to rob me.

He started pointing to a wallet in my pocket. I decidedly said no. He tried to take off my backpack, but I didn't allow him, pushing his hands back on couple attempts.

Fuck. If he had a knife or decide to hit me in the face I'd be probably done for, since he was stronger than me. Clearly he wasn't prepared or too sure of himself but saw an opportunity. I don't dress fancy; sneakers, blue jeans, simple t-shirt and no jewellery nor a watch, but there is no mistaking me for a local either.Do you think you were targeted because you were wearing a backpack?

Mtndew704
08-17-22, 06:03
That above was your mistake. Just should have ignored and keep walking.Agreed, I make it a point to not talk to any dudes in el centro. I don't even make eye contact or even pretend they exist.

Nounce
08-17-22, 08:50
Do you think you were targeted because you were wearing a backpack?This has happened a few times and have been reported here. Mostly around ground zero. The best thing to do is walk away when a local speaks Spanish to you in this situation.

LeoGalder
08-17-22, 10:13
Can anybody suggest me best clubs to find high end girls. Is there any specific restaurant or clubs where high class bitches go.

Thank you!

AdamWl
08-17-22, 12:32
You mention you were on degreiff walking back towards the botero area but was this dude following you from the area to the west as you were walking back?
I don't think so, it seemed like he just bumped into me then decided to try his luck in an empty street. I took de Greiff from Botero towards Minorista, spend around half an hour there and then went back using different route (couple blocks south off Minorista then east).



I know this area you are talking about between like Prado and Minorista. Lots of homeless people and drug addicts and like zero police presence. There's a place where homeless people can go to shower its called servicios basicos DIA #2 or some shit like that. Lots of drugs and drug addicts in this area they smoke a drug called bazuko which is similar to crack. I've been thru there once but I had a vennie with me. Although I never had anyone try to mess with me like what you're describing, I did feel alot of bad vibes there.
Yes, definitely not going to come back there, lots and lots of homeless and no police as you said. There are homeless all the way along de Grieff starting from Plazuela Nutibara west towards Minorista but it seems like the main encampment is there.


Do you think you were targeted because you were wearing a backpack?I don't think so, it wasn't a "HELLO EVERYONE I'm A TOURIST!" big backpack just a small one, black, simple and mostly empty, plus lots of locals are wearing backpacks too (the robber wore one as well). It was the white face that got me targeted.


The best thing to do is walk away when a local speaks Spanish to you in this situation.


Just should have ignored and keep walking.Agreed, I usually don't stop and haven't stopped for moment this time either (until the mentioned hardware shop) but he just kept walking along. I should've just keep my mouth shut and ignore him from the beginning, at least then he wouldn't know whether I speak Spanish or not.

Plan77
08-17-22, 12:56
Amazing post Amigo, thanks a lot for sharing your adventures. Always refreshing to read about actual happenings than the empty discussions. I wish you had a paid account so I could get in touch.

You seem to have good experience of prepagos. Please do keep on sharing some reliable ones. O am not having much luck with FB so this seems a much better and quicker route.


9th of August.

I needed to release the tension of 2 days without fucking and I knew I would not last long. I chose the easy way of Zandaly.

Around 1 pm. 7 girls.

Girl: Natasha from Zandaly. She was the only one smiling.

Room with shower, top floor.

Session: shower, small talk, CBJ, girl on top, missionary, doggy, missionary, pop, small talk, shower.

Girl attitude: basic, just another workday. I offered her a drink afterward (while waiting for my uber) and she showed me videos of her twerking, funny.
9th of August.

Plan77
08-17-22, 12:59
55 K seems to be a standard price at casas. The question is do you get DATY, DFK, BBBJ with it or is it better to offer extra $10 or another 55 K to have the full package?

Same question for street girls at centro. I understand it is mostly 30 +15 for hotel. But do you get above mentioned "perks" in this price or have to offer propina for having GFE?

Paulie97
08-17-22, 13:50
I don't think so, it wasn't a "HELLO EVERYONE I'm A TOURIST!" big backpack just a small one, black, simple and mostly empty, plus lots of locals are wearing backpacks too (the robber wore one as well). It was the white face that got me targeted. You may be right but I'd still skip the backpack going forward. It's also gives them something to grab and try to sling you to the ground by. Thanks for sharing your story and glad you made out okay.

Recondite
08-17-22, 15:16
I've met girls with boob jobs including the one I mentioned who loved to have their nipples sucked and boobs played with and kissed. It comes down to the girl's personal kinks and your connection with her. What someone likes or dislikes sexually is not a logical thing. To give a good example I asked a nonpro I met this last trip if she'd let me cum in her mouth and she told me "gas no me gusta tomar leche en la boca" (yuck I don't like to have cum in my mouth). The funny part was that unasked she immediately proceeded to give me a rimjob and play with my ass until I came. The assplay especially isn't really my thing, but it definitely was hers as it was a recurring theme when I saw her the next time. So for her a guys cum in the mouth is disgusting but eating and massaging a guy's ass is a turn on. In contrast, another one of my amigas would be insulted if she didn't swallow my load or I didn't cum on her face. The fun for me is when you establish a good connection with them and find out what makes them sexually tick.


You are listing the exception not the rule. Most girls with boobs jobs are average at best. SO many girls like you to look and feel their boobs, but just a little. Most do not like you to really feel or suck on them like their tits should be admired from a distance.

Asitis
08-17-22, 15:20
12th of August.

Casa: calle 50#77 a-11 / nice and clean place, room with shower.

Girl: Giyi (Mahidevran), 21 yo, Colombian, small (1 m58) blanca with nice firm small boobs, nice ass, cintura pequeña, cute face (IMO) without the piercings that day and with brackets, blue hair, smiling, nice soft skin, some tattoos. She looks like the photos, her face is definitely better. No kids.

Photos: mileroticos "HOLA SOY GIYI. AMANTE APASIONADA 21 AÑOS" and photoprepagos "Giyi, amante, apasionada, ardiente, joven why fantasiosa".

Reviews: on catadorcolombia Giyi 301457 XXXX (4 different ones).

Damage: 140 k /1 hour + 50 k oral natural. (She also does 100 k / half an hour and 40 k / para bajar (no anal.).

Session: she welcomed me at the door of the casa in black underwear and high heels shoes, seemed shy but smiling a lot. I followed her small ass to the room. I paid for the session and went for a quick shower. She came back to the room with my change. She offered a massage while getting naked. Sensual and soft massage, both sides of my body, skin to skin. She went for the BBBJ, slow with eye contact. She came to lie down next to me and we kissed, no DFK (I tried) but I sucked on those lips while fondling her petite body. I massaged her clit for a while still kissing and she got wet. She went back to blow me and put the condom on. She went on me girl on top and began to move nicely, moaning softly. I could not stop fondling and sucking her breast. We went on in missionary, slow and deep. She is tight. She was looking for my lips now (still no DFK though), moaning a lot softly, her hands all over my body. We continued with doggy from slow to hard, going deep. I was close to come and decided to go back to missionary. I came in this position with more kissing. There was still 10 minutes to go that we spent talking, my hands gently fondling her body. Sweet.

Girl attitude: sweet petite GFE neña (except for the DFK, smooth and wet kissing the whole session though). Very compliant, sort of submissive.

AdamWl
08-17-22, 15:31
Why wouldn't you immediately call an Uber or flag down a cab the first time you stopped at the shop?No taxis in sight there just a street with barely any people and I was in front of the the shop not inside, to have a witness (I gave it a quick glance but didn't notice any inside waiting area nor people there, just bunch of stuff kind of randomly arranged) . I was very close to the safer and more crowded area at this point ('almost there') and calling an Uber didn't occur to me. Plus I couldn't pull out the phone either with him actively trying to steal it, he'd just snatch it in a second an be gone, but in retrospect there was moment of rest when I could try to do it, I was just more focused on watching the surroundings and figuring my next move. Finding a shop and waiting inside for an Uber is definitely a good idea and good way to go about it though, especially that many of the shops have cameras which should serve as additional deterrent.

Zeos1
08-17-22, 15:47
No taxis in sight there just a street with barely any people and I was in front of the the shop not inside, to have a witness (I gave it a quick glance but didn't notice any inside waiting area nor people there, just bunch of stuff kind of randomly arranged) . I was very close to the safer and more crowded area at this point ('almost there') and calling an Uber didn't occur to me. Plus I couldn't pull out the phone either with him actively trying to steal it, he'd just snatch it in a second an be gone, but in retrospect there was moment of rest when I could try to do it, I was just more focused on watching the surroundings and figuring my next move. Finding a shop and waiting inside for an Uber is definitely a good idea and good way to go about it though, especially that many of the shops have cameras which should serve as additional deterrent.Into the nearest store, yell ladron, and try to find something to defend yourself with. A shopkeeper may or may not feel obligated to help you, but no mistaking the guy had intentions of robbing you but not making a scene.

JohnnyWalker55
08-17-22, 15:47
This is why Medallo will never become Pattaya or the Philippine's. It can still be very dangerous, especially to the major mongering demographic (40+, white, westerners).

It will only get worse as the economic situation worsens and people get more desperate.

Keep your eyes peeled and leave the phones and jewelry at home. Stay safe.


Some fucker just tried to rob me.

I decided to check out Plaza Minorista around lunch time. Followed Avenida de Greiff. Starting from Plazuela Franciso Antonio Zea the area gets rough, full of trash, and lots of homeless people, some even camping in tents, all like that right up until the roundabout next to Plaza Minorista.

Fuck. If he had a knife or decide to hit me in the face I'd be probably done for, since he was stronger than me. Clearly he wasn't prepared or too sure of himself but saw an opportunity. I don't dress fancy; sneakers, blue jeans, simple t-shirt and no jewellery nor a watch, but there is no mistaking me for a local either.

AdamWl
08-17-22, 16:31
Into the nearest store, yell ladron, and try to find something to defend yourself with. A shopkeeper may or may not feel obligated to help you, but no mistaking the guy had intentions of robbing you but not making a scene.Definitely. I've added 'ladron!' to my dictionary as soon as I came home.

It would be good to have an expandable pocket baton or a pepper spray for such 'occasions'. Not that those would help if I'd meet a professional (I'd be probably hit in the head before I could realise what's even happening and all the stuff gone). I was lucky the guy didn't pull out anything and wasn't very fast and decisive in his approach.

Knowledge
08-17-22, 16:44
What did you learn from the incident?


Some fucker just tried to rob me.

I decided to check out Plaza Minorista around lunch time. Followed Avenida de Greiff. Starting from Plazuela Franciso Antonio Zea the area gets rough, full of trash, and lots of homeless people, some even camping in tents, all like that right up until the roundabout next to Plaza Minorista.

I didn't want to walk back the same way so went looking for a safer route. I knew the general direction towards which I should be going and just followed the crowd from Plaza Minorista, bunch of home supplies shops around, tiles, chairs etc. Relatively clean and no homeless. About two blocks from Plaza Botero a guy started walking next to me and struck up a conversation. Where am I from etc. He started in Spanish then switched to botched English. We exchanged couple friendly words, names, handshake, he said "Welcome to Colombia" and split to the right. I continue walking.

There was a short and empty street. I noticed the guy is back walking alongside me, he waved and came close. He put his arm around my neck to give me friendly 'hug', more like a strong squeeze. I jiggled out of it and continued walking. He asked for money with no so friendly look now. OK so it's like that then, I better get the fuck out of this situation ASAP. I stalled to buy some time and eventually gave him some 2's I keep loose in my pocket and picked up my pace, hoping he'll piss off. He wasn't satisfied. He started pointing to a wallet in my pocket. I decidedly said no. He tried to take off my backpack, but I didn't allow him, pushing his hands back on couple attempts. Some random guy carrying big black trash bag walked nearby curiously observing the scene, he didn't look homeless just like a local (the would be robber too BTW, he wasn't wearing rugs just normal clothes and a cap)..

Knowledge
08-17-22, 16:56
When you are in a major metropolitan area in the middle of the day and you find yourself on an isolated street you have to get the fuck back to civilization as soon as possible.

This sort of area is known by security and law enforcement people as "no go zones. " It's a very reliable rule of thumb that there is safety in numbers.

A deserted area in an otherwise densely populated area is a major red flag. Next time, take the bus.


Yes. Anyone who says 'Hello, my friend' is not your friend and you are not there to make friends anyway.

MiamiBoy1
08-17-22, 17:28
This has happened a few times and have been reported here. Mostly around ground zero. The best thing to do is walk away when a local speaks Spanish to you in this situation.And yet mongers keep coming to El Centro. Alone, without any Spanish, and not knowing the lay of the land. Walking targets!

Gabacho
08-17-22, 17:49
Definitely. I've added 'ladron!' to my dictionary as soon as I came home.

It would be good to have an expandable pocket baton or a pepper spray for such 'occasions'. Not that those would help if I'd meet a professional (I'd be probably hit in the head before I could realise what's even happening and all the stuff gone). I was lucky the guy didn't pull out anything and wasn't very fast and decisive in his approach.There's a shop that sells pepper spray on Calle 48 I believe right on side of the street after you cross oriental. It's the pedestrian street next to the edificio de policía nacional where all the police are always standing. The shop is on the right side with the police building on the left side and it's about half way down the block. Just ask for "espray de pimienta".

JustTK
08-17-22, 18:20
Scary stuff. Why wouldn't you immediately call an Uber or flag down a cab the first time you stopped at the shop?Uber? Yeah, and book urslef a flight and Caribbean cruise while your at it! Haha.

JustTK
08-17-22, 18:28
Definitely. I've added 'ladron!' to my dictionary as soon as I came home.
Not that those would help if I'd meet a professional (I'd be probably hit in the head before I could realise what's even happening and all the stuff gone). I was lucky the guy didn't pull out anything and wasn't very fast and decisive.Right. Not belittling your event but this happens in every major city around the world. I remember many years ago being targetted by some football hooligans. I felt no loss of pride by running as fast as I could to the safety of a large shop and calling the police. Not that the police would have helped you, but I imagine running at speed and a large shop could help.

Bill
08-17-22, 19:24
Scary stuff. Why wouldn't you immediately call an Uber or flag down cab the first time you stopped at the shop?Going to guess that the op read the forum here, looked at the pics then decided Medellin is a regular mongering destination just a tad sketch, cruise around the city and things will be fine.

And if in trouble surely a local will be happy to assist.

Letting any stranger chat you up, touch, grab and repeatedly follow then request assets is a sign of inexperience and / or western thinking that as long as there is an embassy of my country around things will be aight.

"close enough to grab close enough to stab".

Even advanced mongers growing up in hoodsville USA don't have a snowballs chance against determined paisa muggers LOL.

AdamWl
08-17-22, 19:45
There's a shop that sells pepper spray on Calle 48 I believe right on side of the street after you cross oriental. It's the pedestrian street next to the edificio de polica nacional where all the police are always standing. The shop is on the right side with the police building on the left side and it's about half way down the block. Just ask for "espray de pimienta".Thanks! I'll check it out.


Right. Not belittling your event but this happens in every major city around the world. I remember many years ago being targetted by some football hooligans. I felt no loss of pride by running as fast as I could to the safety of a large shop and calling the police.I agree, it does, and I do have some past experience with street criminals and football hooligans in 'european and safe' cities as well, but that was my first serious encounter in Medellin and took me by surprise.


Not that the police would have helped you, but I imagine running at speed and a large shop could help.Provided he doesn't run faster than me or trips me up (not great falling on concrete), remember, he was next to me, and looked quite strong and healthy. In retrospect he turned to be somewhat shy in front of other people and didn't seem to want to make a scene so it might've worked.


What did you learn from the incident?Still processing but in general to be careful where I walk alone, don't take unnecessary risks and be more cold towards 'friendly strangers' (though I'm not overly friendly already but usually do respond with something while continuing walking, even if it's a simple 'no, gracias') Would it help here if ignored the guy and didn't say a word? Probably.

I already knew to avoid empty streets and turned back several times in the past when didn't like the vibe of the place, I should've turn around this time as well but I was so close to the civilization (and I was mostly part of the crowd on the way) it seemed unnecessary.

Knowing Spanish would definitely come in handy as well (new additions to my vocabulary: ludron, ayuda, hijo de puta, vete a la mierda).

Having some means of defending oneself like a pepper spray could be good too, if all else fails (but one better know how to use it and not fumble, otherwise the tools might end up in the attacker's hands).

Best not to carry a backpack if not necessary nor many valuables, a bit difficult not to carry the apartment keys / card and the phone though. Yes, it was a cheap phone and I have 3 more as backups but it would've still caused me some hassle to replace and loose the stuff in there (plus fuck that guy, you are not getting my phone asshole). In a prefect word it would be best to carry a 'true' burner that one doesn't give a damn about loosing.

I didn't carry much cash and left the ATM card at home. There wasn't anything valuable in backpack either, but still, it was more of a principle of the thing at that point not the cash value and I seriously doubt he'd be satisfied with just a backpack anyway if I'd give in to the demands.

Also, it would've been a good idea to carry some backup cash hidden somewhere. Because if he'd rob me blind, I'd be in very dire situation without any cash, phone, apartment keys and very basic Spanish skills. I do have money belt but of course didn't wear it this time (a sock would do too though). Second set of apartment keys would be good as well.

RedMau5
08-17-22, 19:52
Agreed, I usually don't stop and haven't stopped for moment this time either (until the mentioned hardware shop) but he just kept walking along. I should've just keep my mouth shut and ignore him from the beginning, at least then he wouldn't know whether I speak Spanish or not.I speak zero Spanish, not of big stature. I've mongered alone (after dark) in Tijuana, Juarez, and Nuevo Laredo during the worse of times with all the crime and cartel killings. Same rule applies, completely ignore everybody until you hit your target (hooker). If you don't now by now, the different areas, they work together. From the beggars to the thieves and so on. Anybody that propositions you for anything, just ignore and keep walking as if they were stray dogs barking. It's the same as if you were in some club or outside and you had your intentions and sights set on a particular girl (a mark). You want something from her and try to start up a conversation to gauge her. She ignores you. No eye contact. Acts as if you don't even exist, but does not run. Only keeps walking. No even a single word. How would you feel?

"I don't want to mess with that one."

AdamWl
08-17-22, 19:59
Letting any stranger chat you up, touch, grab and repeatedly follow then request assets is a sign of inexperience and / or western thinking that as long as there is an embassy of my country around things will be aight.How can you stop the guy form following you though? I've been approached by many strangers here and didn't have any issues until now (either brushing them off or having a quick conversation without stopping) but if it's just the guy, you and no one else on empty street then what choice there is but to interact, acknowledge and observe him closely to gauge the intentions and see what he's doing? (Admittedly I should not have even be there in the first place).
Sprinting on every sign of approach doesn't seem like a viable solution since 99% of them are not attempted robberies (at least so far, hah)

Nounce
08-17-22, 20:39
And yet mongers keep coming to El Centro. Alone, without any Spanish, and not knowing the lay of the land. Walking targets!So are a lot of tourists with their phones out taking pictures.

Chilller
08-17-22, 21:03
Some fucker just tried to rob me.

About two blocks from Plaza Botero a guy started walking next to me and struck up a conversation. Where am I from etc. He started in Spanish then switched to botched English. We exchanged couple friendly words, names, handshake, he said "Welcome to Colombia" and split to the right. I continue walking.

There was a short and empty street. I noticed the guy is back walking alongside me, he waved and came close. He put his arm around my neck to give me friendly 'hug', more like a strong squeeze.
Don't want to victim blame but why would you do this? What did you think would happen? Some people are so gullible and politically correct that they would tell an obvious thief where they're from, what they do for work, and anything else they would ask. Even come in close for a hug? Just absolutely unreal. You were a real pal!

RubberDuckyBos
08-17-22, 21:21
How can you stop the guy form following you though? I've been approached by many strangers here and didn't have any issues until now (either brushing them off or having a quick conversation without stopping) but if it's just the guy, you and no one else on empty street then what choice there is but to interact, acknowledge and observe him closely to gauge the intentions and see what he's doing? (Admittedly I should not have even be there in the first place).
Sprinting on every sign of approach doesn't seem like a viable solution since 99% of them are not attempted robberies (at least so far, hah)If you don't want or need anything from a stranger, just put up a resting-*****-face, ignore them, and walk quickly by like you've got more important things to do. The moment you weren't anything but 100% cold to him, he knew you were a potential mark. Why's a random dude walking up to you in a foreign country, and striking up conversation with you when neither of you can speak each other's languages? Best case scenario he's trying to tout for some random bar where he wants to rip you off. Worst case he's trying to set you up to rob you. This isn't even a foreign country thing, even in Manhattan if some random person walks up to me and strikes up a conversation and I don't know them, if I can't get away from them (waiting for a subway or something) I am on high alert, and make it pretty clear immediately I have no desire to converse or interact with that person.

DuskyIndian
08-17-22, 21:26
Hi all,

Newbie here, planning to go to Medellin later this month for a holiday. Planning to visit a few spots around different cities (Medellin, cartegana and Bogota in itinerary).

Was wondering if anyone have any tips for safe mongering. I am esp worried about the physical safety aspect.

Huacho
08-17-22, 23:03
How can you stop the guy form following you though? 'Lárgate!' works well.

Asitis
08-17-22, 23:20
Amazing post Amigo, thanks a lot for sharing your adventures. Always refreshing to read about actual happenings than the empty discussions. I wish you had a paid account so I could get in touch.

You seem to have good experience of prepagos. Please do keep on sharing some reliable ones. O am not having much luck with FB so this seems a much better and quicker route.

9th of August.Thanks Plan77.

Sorry about the account I screwed it up. But be sure I'll write the reports about the girls I went with (I have 3 in process).

If you want to explore online prepagos by yourself I recommend catadorcolombia.com. IMHO it is quite good for online prepagos reports in Medellin, active and accurate. For Cali I would suggest doncolombia.com.

Enjoy and be safe Amigo!

Deafcon
08-18-22, 01:05
Uber? Yeah, and book urslef a flight and Caribbean cruise while your at it! Haha.I'm not suggesting he pull his phone out in front of the guy and get an uber. Once he was in the relative safety of the store front and the guy left his immediate vicinity, walking into the store and getting an uber to come seems like a viable option.

Tasss
08-18-22, 01:27
Someone with an anthropology or biology background can probably get more out of this than I can but here's a small genetic study of the population of Medellin.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep12376

Some interesting points I was able to understand from this.

- From their small sample size, the average Medellin person is 74.6% European, 18.1% Native American (Asian), 7. 3% African.

- Eyeballing the chart in figure 1, most people stay above 70% European genetics and under 10% African, but the NA / Asian component is pretty constant.

- The NA / Asian component mostly comes from the mother's side, European component comes from the father's side (result of European conquest of the Americas).

- 93.4% of the population of Medellin self-identifies as white.

Didn't care too much about the disease-resistance discussion in the paper.

Guardman
08-18-22, 02:25
The girl in blue is special. Nice find.


While I tell you about my trials and errors en mde.

1) living here is a whole different game then vacation. Daily life is heavy here and I thank god for my privileges every day here.

2) in the 3 months I've been here. After 40+ dates and only sleeping with about 10 of them. I've finally gotten my harem.

3) chemistry is something that money can't buy and I'm about quality vs quantity.

4) the one in blue is a digital marketer for her father, the one in the middle is a future dentist in 2 years, the one on the right owns her own nail salon.

5) take time to get to know the girls you're fucking, invest in them emotionally / mentally / and obviously money. If you're able to connect with them at a emotional intelligent level. They will show you perspectives of medallo that even the richest person in the world will never get to experience. These girls showing me their families, inviting me to outings etc. Is something that money can't buy and google can't find.

5) shout out to Ricerocket999 for being my inspiration. Respect the Asian king of medallo. Long live the king!

DontSayMuch
08-18-22, 02:26
Don't want to victim blame but why would you do this? What did you think would happen? Some people are so gullible and politically correct that they would tell an obvious thief where they're from, what they do for work, and anything else they would ask. Even come in close for a hug? Just absolutely unreal. You were a real pal!A lot of this is Monday morning quarterbacking. Sometimes you just get got, it happens. What of instead of being somewhat polite he ignored him and the person took offense and attacked? Would the suggestions be "Just say no gracias. "?

If someone comes over and puts their arm around you then you'd most likely do what this person did and wriggle away. I know that's what I'd do. This was less about being PC and more about being targeted as someone who would give them what he was after.

I'd also caution against escalation. I think everyone would love to meed out justice, I know I would, but there is a serious risk of injury in fighting back, especially with a weapon. Instead of losing a hundred dollars you'd get into a violent confrontation with who knows what kind of consequences.

I'm glad this person shared his story and hopefully will make others more cautious about going into "no-go zones". Hopefully I don't experience anything like this, but if I do then I hope I'm able to get out of it as good as this guy did.

DontSayMuch
08-18-22, 02:31
12th of August.

Casa: calle 50#77 a-11 / nice and clean place, room with shower.

Girl: Giyi (Mahidevran), 21 yo, Colombian, small (1 m58) blanca with nice firm small boobs, nice ass, cintura pequea, cute face (IMO) without the piercings that day and with brackets, blue hair, smiling, nice soft skin, some tattoos. She looks like the photos, her face is definitely better. No kids.

Photos: mileroticos "HOLA SOY GIYI. AMANTE APASIONADA 21 AOS" and photoprepagos "Giyi, amante, apasionada, ardiente, joven why fantasiosa".

Reviews: on catadorcolombia Giyi 301457 XXXX (4 different ones).

Damage: 140 k /1 hour + 50 k oral natural. (She also does 100 k / half an hour and 40 k / para bajar (no anal.).

Session: she welcomed me at the door of the casa in black underwear and high heels shoes, seemed shy but smiling a lot. I followed her small ass to the room. I paid for the session and went for a quick shower. She came back to the room with my change. She offered a massage while getting naked. Sensual and soft massage, both sides of my body, skin to skin.Thanks for this report!

I have almost a hundred FB "Friends" but I don't know if any of them will want to meet up. Your detailed reports on these women are very appreciated!

Ruddock1
08-18-22, 02:35
Right. Not belittling your event but this happens in every major city around the world. I remember many years ago being targetted by some football hooligans. I felt no loss of pride by running as fast as I could to the safety of a large shop and calling the police. Not that the police would have helped you, but I imagine running at speed and a large shop could help.Hey,

Hope you are doing well. I can't send a personal message. Enjoyed going to Govinda's with you in the afternoons this summer. I'd run like a bat out of hell if I was a target.

Zeos1
08-18-22, 02:42
No taxis in sight there just a street with barely any people and I was in front of the the shop not inside, to have a witness (I gave it a quick glance but didn't notice any inside waiting area nor people there, just bunch of stuff kind of randomly arranged) . I was very close to the safer and more crowded area at this point ('almost there') and calling an Uber didn't occur to me. Plus I couldn't pull out the phone either with him actively trying to steal it, he'd just snatch it in a second an be gone, but in retrospect there was moment of rest when I could try to do it, I was just more focused on watching the surroundings and figuring my next move. Finding a shop and waiting inside for an Uber is definitely a good idea and good way to go about it though, especially that many of the shops have cameras which should serve as additional deterrent.I am familiar with the area, and probably the street you were on. In that area calling an Uber would not work, nor is a taxi likely to be close. Plus you have seconds to act, not time to pull out a phone even. That is if you could not get inside a shop that might be safer at least. Locals are as likely to just watch as to help you, but if you were very loud and created a scene it might help scare the guy off. Or he might just pull a gun and shoot you or a knife and stab. That also is not uncommon in Medellin during robberies, so I guess you were lucky that it was a robber that was trying to con you as he robbed you, or in order to rob you.

Knowledge
08-18-22, 03:01
All the points you made are valid but you did not mention the one that is for me the most important. Don't walk through an area where taxistas routinely roll up their windows, lock their doors, and avoid stopping even at red lights at night. Risk versus reward, it makes no sense to be there.


A lot of this is Monday morning quarterbacking. Sometimes you just get got, it happens. What of instead of being somewhat polite he ignored him and the person took offense and attacked? Would the suggestions be "Just say no gracias. "?

If someone comes over and puts their arm around you then you'd most likely do what this person did and wriggle away. I know that's what I'd do. This was less about being PC and more about being targeted as someone who would give them what he was after.

I'd also caution against escalation. I think everyone would love to meed out justice, I know I would, but there is a serious risk of injury in fighting back, especially with a weapon. Instead of losing a hundred dollars you'd get into a violent confrontation with who knows what kind of consequences.

I'm glad this person shared his story and hopefully will make others more cautious about going into "no-go zones". Hopefully I don't experience anything like this, but if I do then I hope I'm able to get out of it as good as this guy did.

JustTK
08-18-22, 03:31
Someone with an anthropology or biology background can probably get more out of this than I can but here's a small genetic study of the population of Medellin.

Some interesting points I was able to understand from this.

- From their small sample size, the average Medellin person is 74.6% European, 18.1% Native American (Asian), 7. 3% African.

- 93.4% of the population of Medellin self-identifies as white.

Interesting find. Maybe I skim read it too quickly but smthg caught my eye:

"93.4% of the population of Medellin was classified as Euro-descendent, whereas 6. 5% of individuals identified as Afro-Colombian and only 0. 1% identified as Native American36. These demographic data are based on self-identification and reflect the ethnic groups that individuals consider themselves to be members of. Thus, it would appear that the vast majority Colombians from Medellin identify as white".

This strikes me as a very broad leap to make for a study of the Nature (geddit? We all know that European has never meant white. We all know that Irish, Germans, Italians, Greeks, East Europeans have all suffered prejudice from not being white (depsite some being as white as can be).

Did I miss smthg here? I can understand that many Colombians will recognise their Spanish ancestrty, but that is a stretch to claim that they self-identify as white.

Mtndew704
08-18-22, 03:38
Hi all,

Newbie here, planning to go to Medellin later this month for a holiday. Planning to visit a few spots around different cities (Medellin, cartegana and Bogota in itinerary).

Was wondering if anyone have any tips for safe mongering. I am esp worried about the physical safety aspect.Why do you worry about your physical safety?

AdamWl
08-18-22, 04:50
I'd also caution against escalation. I think everyone would love to meed out justice, I know I would, but there is a serious risk of injury in fighting back, especially with a weapon. Instead of losing a hundred dollars you'd get into a violent confrontation with who knows what kind of consequences.Very true. It can get real ugly real fast. The risks and potential injuries are not worth it. I was trying to stall as long as possible, gauge the guy's desperation level and not to escalate. But the more he was pressing on, the more adrenaline I was getting myself, becoming more angry and agitated each minute and it was increasingly difficult to remain calm and reasonable, there were moments at the end where I was extremely close to the edge of throwing it down with him but I'm sure glad I didn't.

I've got couple years of muay-thai training under my belt and similar time spent playing full-contact rugby but I always avoid street scraps even if it makes me look 'weak'. So far I've been able to do it (knock on wood).

I admit I've always had somewhat friendly disposition which sometimes resulted in some unwarranted attentions from some people that considered it a weakness and needed their assumptions corrected the hard way but I never initiate the violence myself, only for self-defence and extremely reluctantly at that, as last resort, if all other options are completely exhausted and I feel my back pressed against the wall with no other way out. If there would be two guys I wouldn't even dream on attempting anything besides running.


I am familiar with the area, and probably the street you were on. In that area calling an Uber would not work, nor is a taxi likely to be close. Plus you have seconds to act, not time to pull out a phone even. That is if you could not get inside a shop that might be safer at least. Locals are as likely to just watch as to help you, but if you were very loud and created a scene it might help scare the guy off. Or he might just pull a gun and shoot you or a knife and stab. That also is not uncommon in Medellin during robberies, so I guess you were lucky that it was a robber that was trying to con you as he robbed you, or in order to rob you.Yes, I was afraid of a knife and watched his hands very closely. If he'd attempt to pull anything I would have no choice but to give up, throw the backpack and run. Either that or attack. I was lucky this time indeed.

Just pulled out a google timeline (attached). While tracking is not exactly 100% it's close enough. Marked the approximate point where the robbery attempt started.

Tasss
08-18-22, 05:34
Did I miss smthg here? I can understand that many Colombians will recognise their Spanish ancestrty, but that is a stretch to claim that they self-identify as white.Yes, I think the Colombian and Venezuelan concept of white is just not having brown skin. I asked one girl directly what her ethnicity is. She's got the classic olive skin tone that you'd see in much of southern Europe, something like Shakira. She calls herself white. A look at photoprepagos, filtering by piel blanca also you'll see that most of the results anyone coming from the USA would just label Latina or Hispanic.

Asitis
08-18-22, 05:41
14th of August.

Casa: Ellas Erotic, calle 44#90 a-49 / nice and clean place, room with shower.

Girl: Fernanda, 25 yo (Venezolana, 1 m65/1 m70 blanca with nice firm small boobs, nice ass, cintura pequeña, nice face with some light acne traces and provocative lips, vey long hair, smiling, nice soft skin, some tattoos. She is like the photos except for the skin texture of her face.

Photos: on mileroticos "fernanda-la-flaca-mas-rica-que-puedas-conocer-rostro-angelical /23296307/" and "la-flaca-mas-hermosa-rostro-angelical-cintura-pequena-cuerpo-armonioso /23519566/" + on ellaserotic search for Fernanda.

Reviews: on catadorcolombia "Fernanda 311700 XXXX" (2 different ones).

Damage: 130 k /1 hour + 50 k oral natural. (She also does 90 k / half an hour, no anal).

Session: she welcomed me at the door of the casa in black underwear and high heels shoes, very talkative and smiling. My two first thoughts were 1) wow she is really fit and 2) que cara de perra! So well I followed her to the room. She kissed me with her plump lips rubbing my pants and asked me to pay for the session, whe both laughed. I gave her the money, we talked a little and she started to kiss me again (no DFK but passionate) and helped me undress. She put on some music, came upon me, more kissing and went for the BBBJ, licking, sucking, some deepthroating (sort of) and eye contact. After a while I asked for 69 and she told me that she does not like it. Well I like DATY so I went down to her clit and sucked it good while fondling her tits. I went back to kiss her, my finger working her clit. Condom, missionary, changing the rhythm and the depth, kissed her and this time she initiated DFK, but she came back to her senses, and it was only plump and wet lips, LOL. She came on top in hardcore mode. When she calmed down I asked for doggy. She complied. Nice and deep while holding (gently) her hair. In the casa the music was loud and some chicas began to sing along, we both burst out laughing. We went back to business de lado this time but it quickly became like scissors position. My first time like this, really nice to get deep and fondle her tits in the same time. Missionary again for the final race and pop. We spent the remaining time talking, fondling and laughing.

Girl attitude: nice delgada GFE slutty face girl (except for the DFK accident, passionate "only lips" kissing the whole session). Very compliant. She likes to watch herself in the mirror. Her moans were sometimes too obviously fake though. For those who like slutty fit girls.

16th of August.

Casa: Ellas Erotic, calle 44#90 a-49 / nice and clean place, room without shower.

Girl: Mia Silver, 25 yo (or 27? Colombiana, 1 m61 blanca with fake boobs, long legs, nice ass, cintura pequeña, very cute face, smiling, nice soft skin, just one tattoo on her right ankle. She is like the photos, even better I would say. The size of her fake boobs seems somehow weird on her body.

Photos: on mileroticos "soy mía silver la mejor prepago de Medellin ven why date el gusto" + on ellaserotic search for Mia.

Reviews: on catadorcolombia "Mia Silver 324232 XXXX" (4 different ones, one is in English).

Damage: 150 k /1 hour + 40 k oral natural. (She also does 90 k / half an hour, 100 k / anal).

Session: she welcomed me warmly at the door of the casa in underwear and high heels shoes, very cute face and smaller butt that I had imagined. I followed her to the room. Once the door was closed she went straight for DFK while grabbing my dick. She asked me to pay for the session and went out to make some change. When she came back to the room DFK again, me fondling her, she turned to face the mirror and twerked on my dick. We threw our clothes away, me standing she knelt down on the floor, kissed and licked my dick and balls, she made me sit on the bed and went for paja rusa moaning like a pornstar "que rico, si, que rico", LOL. I then lied on the bed and she began to suck me hard and deep, put my legs on her shoulders her head between my thighs and she sucked even deeper and harder. Nice 69, licked her pussy and ass. Condom, me lying her on top moving fast and hard, she turned for backward cowgirl fast and furious again watching herself in the mirror, I felt she would break my dick and reduced the angle and the pressure by sitting, I withdrew and tongue fucked her ass, that naturally led to doggy position her moaning "mas, mas, dame duro". I had no grip with the bed sheets so we went on doggy with me standing outside the bed still fast and furious style. Short of breath I begged for a truce. We lied on the bed, me trying to catch my breath. I joked about her trying to kill me and we laughed. We talked a little while and my dick softened. More DFK and she explained that she likes her boobs to be squeezed hard, that it is not painful and actually arouses her. I was hard again. Missionary, slow, tight and deep for 20 seconds but the fast and furious came back, after a while I begged for another truce breathing like a fish out of the sea. My dick softened again. She began to stroke me, talking and DFK and I was hard again. Missionary again, I tried again to keep it slow and she turned again to fast and furious with more "dame duro, mas, mas" and inevitably I lost my breath again and I raised the white flag. We laughed about me dying in this casa in Medellin and the embarrassment for my family. She resumed to stroking me again, DFK and I was hard again. She told me I could cum on her tits if I wanted since we had only 5 minutes left. I went for the last round, missionary again. All the same again. This time I threw in the towel. No pop, half dead, catching my breath but happy. We talked and DFK. Knock on the door. We talked again. Knock again on the door. We got dressed. She walked me to the door of the casa, kiss and goodbye.

Girl attitude: perfect GFE with a really cute and fun girl. Very compliant. She is on the hardcore side of sex. Her moans were porn style too (not really my thing). She is not watching the clock. For those who look for the porn experience.

About Ellas erotic: Mia told me that a dozen girls work there. And if I understood well, you get a discount by booking the girl with the casa (110 k /1 hour instead of 130 k). This last part has to be crosschecked. The phone number of the casa is on their website. Well, she also told me it does not apply to her, LOL.

Deafcon
08-18-22, 06:36
Very true. It can get real ugly real fast. The risks and potential injuries are not worth it. I was trying to stall as long as possible, gauge the guy's desperation level and not to escalate. But the more he was pressing on, the more adrenaline I was getting myself, becoming more angry and agitated each minute and it was increasingly difficult to remain calm and reasonable, there were moments at the end where I was extremely close to the edge of throwing it down with him but I'm sure glad I didn't.

I've got couple years of muay-thai training under my belt and similar time spent playing full-contact rugby but I always avoid street scraps even if it makes me look 'weak'. So far I've been able to do it (knock on wood)..Did you go down what appears to be a super sketchy alleyway?

Approximate location:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Medell%C3%ADn, +Medellin,+Antioquia,+Colombia / at 6. 2533234,-75.5729127,18 z / data=!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x8 e4428 dfb80 fad05:0 x42137 cfcc7 b53 b56!8 m2!3 d6. 2476376!4 d-75.5658153.

Entrance on Calle 52 a:

https://www.google.com/maps/@6.2538017, -75.5717595,3 a,75 y,180 h,90 t / data=!3 m7!1 e1!3 m5!1 sW7 e6 PoBQ_MXLXl6 d8 TTOQg!2 e0!6's.

Exit on Carrera 55:

https://www.google.com/maps/@6.2527378, -75.5713248,3 a,75 y,270 h,90 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 sH42 i8 w_1 y6 Da379 ukNp8 eA!2 e0!7 i16384!8 i8192.

Surfer500
08-18-22, 13:16
I am familiar with the area, and probably the street you were on. In that area calling an Uber would not work, nor is a taxi likely to be close. Plus you have seconds to act, not time to pull out a phone even. That is if you could not get inside a shop that might be safer at least. Locals are as likely to just watch as to help you, but if you were very loud and created a scene it might help scare the guy off. Or he might just pull a gun and shoot you or a knife and stab. That also is not uncommon in Medellin during robberies, so I guess you were lucky that it was a robber that was trying to con you as he robbed you, or in order to rob you.The area you mentioned, especially down LaGrief, is lined with junkies at times sitting on the sidewalks shooting up.

Most definitely not a place for a foreigner to be walking around to began with, and pulling out a phone in that area.

Well it might almost be like fly's on shit, or bleeding in the Ocean and circled by sharks in that area.

Regardless, I think the ladron was a total amateur, meaning totally in-experienced as a robber.

And as far as working a con game, well I think brandishing a knife is more what occurs in a lot of the thefts, more so than the use of guns, on the streets.

I know two gringos that have had knives pulled on them by the Veracruz Church, and fortunately neither one of them got ripped off or sliced up.

Typically "robbers" want to rob as quickly as possible, versus following you around and pursuing you which sounds kind of like what was reported.

Miles21
08-18-22, 17:12
Quick question, I would normally read through everything but am in kind of a rush today.

I received the first two shots of the vaccine back before my trip in February. Well I never got the follow up booster shot.

Do I have to have the booster to be considered fully vaccinated in Colombia. If so I plan on getting it tomorrow. If not I wasn't going to worry about it.

Thanks in advance.

Zedoo
08-18-22, 17:39
One thing I've always found that works especially in a foreign country where you don't speak the language is to act like you're dumb / mute, and mutter some mumbo jumbo. This only helps if you look like a local.

Responding in English was a bad idea and gave you away as a mark. If he had a weapon, he would have used it a lot earlier as it seems he may have been a desperate crack user.

Good luck and stay safe.


A lot of this is Monday morning quarterbacking. Sometimes you just get got, it happens. What of instead of being somewhat polite he ignored him and the person took offense and attacked? Would the suggestions be "Just say no gracias. "?

If someone comes over and puts their arm around you then you'd most likely do what this person did and wriggle away. I know that's what I'd do. This was less about being PC and more about being targeted as someone who would give them what he was after.

I'd also caution against escalation. I think everyone would love to meed out justice, I know I would, but there is a serious risk of injury in fighting back, especially with a weapon. Instead of losing a hundred dollars you'd get into a violent confrontation with who knows what kind of consequences.

I'm glad this person shared his story and hopefully will make others more cautious about going into "no-go zones". Hopefully I don't experience anything like this, but if I do then I hope I'm able to get out of it as good as this guy did.

Deafcon
08-18-22, 18:15
Did you go down what appears to be a super sketchy alleyway?

Approximate location:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Medell%C3%ADn, +Medellin,+Antioquia,+Colombia / at 6. 2533234,-75.5729127,18 z / data=!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x8 e4428 dfb80 fad05:0 x42137 cfcc7 b53 b56!8 m2!3 d6. 2476376!4 d-75.5658153.

Entrance on Calle 52 a:

https://www.google.com/maps/@6.2538017, -75.5717595,3 a,75 y,180 h,90 t / data=!3 m7!1 e1!3 m5!1 sW7 e6 PoBQ_MXLXl6 d8 TTOQg!2 e0!6's.

Exit on Carrera 55:.Looks like the forum software murdered my links. I don't see any options to use link or code tags to keep them whole. Oh well.

SouthernOcean
08-18-22, 18:17
I saw a map here of the areas to stroll and the area to stay in but I forgot his name. I think it ended in a number. Senior member.

AdamWl
08-18-22, 18:26
I saw a map here of the areas to stroll and the area to stay in but I forgot his name. I think it ended in a number. Senior member.World Travel 69.

Fun Luvr
08-18-22, 19:09
Quick question, I would normally read through everything but am in kind of a rush today.

I received the first two shots of the vaccine back before my trip in February. Well I never got the follow up booster shot.

Do I have to have the booster to be considered fully vaccinated in Colombia. If so I plan on getting it tomorrow. If not I wasn't going to worry about it.

Thanks in advance.No booster shots are required. You are considered fully vaccinated after getting one (J&J) or two (all others) shots.

Miles21
08-18-22, 19:18
No booster shots are required. You are considered fully vaccinated after getting one (J&J) or two (all others) shots.Much appreciated.

Fun Luvr
08-18-22, 20:04
Looks like the forum software murdered my links. I don't see any options to use link or code tags to keep them whole. Oh well.After your post is displayed, there is an "Edit Post" at the bottom of the box. If you go there, you can override the auto-correct done by the software. I don't know if it will allow a very long link. I haven't tried.

TylerHerro
08-18-22, 20:07
After your post is displayed, there is an "Edit Post" at the bottom of the box. If you go there, you can override the auto-correct done by the software. I don't know if it will allow a very long link. I haven't tried.Does anyone know how quickly they activate subscriptions?

Knowledge
08-18-22, 21:56
World Travel 69.Beware of out of date entries. When in doubt check here for the latest.

Chicago85
08-19-22, 00:28
One thing I've always found that works especially in a foreign country where you don't speak the language is to act like you're dumb / mute, and mutter some mumbo jumbo. This only helps if you look like a local.

Responding in English was a bad idea and gave you away as a mark. If he had a weapon, he would have used it a lot earlier as it seems he may have been a desperate crack user.

Good luck and stay safe.I respond back in loud German, which tends to confuse them, but is believable as I look German. It's also an aggressive sounding language so they tend to back off.

JustTK
08-19-22, 01:22
I respond back in loud German, which tends to confuse them, but is believable as I look German. It's also an aggressive sounding language so they tend to back off.HABEN SIE ETWAS ZU VERZOLLEN? **scowl*.

Deafcon
08-19-22, 02:33
After your post is displayed, there is an "Edit Post" at the bottom of the box. If you go there, you can override the auto-correct done by the software. I don't know if it will allow a very long link. I haven't tried.I'm guessing that's an option for senior members.

Osteoknot
08-19-22, 04:03
Many of the guys here have experienced the benefits of establishing a deeper connection with the women they meet. However, it's not a requirement. The 3 F approach (find them, fuck them and forget them) works well.I have my serious novias and my wet mudholes. My serious novias are ranked and they know their position or ranking and not to get out-of-pocket. That's Krunk talk for if you are Number Five, you don't give Number Two, shit. And you bend your will to chicas with higher rankings. The whole point being my Numero Uno, Catgirl, never changes. The day my Numero Uno is no longer Catgirl, then there would no longer be any method to my madness in Medellin.

In the beginning, three years ago, when I realized that I found the girl of my dreams while at the same time not willing to give up other chicas, I used to have novias, amigas, chicas, and putas ranked in descending order on my List. Over time, the amigas became novias, the chicas became amigas and so forth. A natural progression of familiarity and comfort with the best chicas. So now if a chica is Top Five or Six, she is a novia. And the rest aren't. Very simple.

I absolutely do not recommend what I do as a system or suggest that it would work for anyone else but me, Catgirl, and those chicas who want to be on my List.

I planned very little if any of where I am now. My List formed itself teleologically. The way I see it in the long run, is there will be one roof under which I will live with many different chicas at the same time, with Catgirl as the reigning reina, but that remains to be seen. I call that a goal and not a plan.

What does this mean for the general readership here? Next to nothing. I didn't "plan" any of this. I landed here in 2019 not knowing Medellin was a mongering destination or the tussi capital of the world. I came here to be with Catgirl, and despite the mountain load of detractors, so far so good. Catgirl and I have never been closer.

I guess if there is a point to any of this it's one thing that I have been saying all along. In Medellin, anyone can develop their own hybrid model of what works for them and get their freak on for whatever makes them happy. I have never been anywhere among all seven continents I have visited where there are a wider variety of venues, in-person and on-line, from the most expensive nightclub chica, to the girl on the street and everything and any combination in between, to choose from in a relatively small geographical area.

Do your own Research and Development, or more accurately, RipOff and Duplicate and find out what works best for you. Don't get bogged down by what the guy to your left or to your right is doing. There's nothing wrong with modeling behaviors after other's perceived successes but chances are you best experiences will be found in a manner that is unique to you.

Random Gratuitious Fotos. Seven of the ten are Catgirl, my Numero Uno Novia. Five different chicas are shown, I had sex with four of them.

Huacho
08-19-22, 13:40
I'm guessing that's an option for senior members.Your guess is incorrect. 'Edit Post' is available to me and I am not a senior member.

AdamWl
08-19-22, 16:43
Your guess is incorrect. 'Edit Post' is available to me and I am not a senior member.I think the option becomes available after certain post-count when the posts are not admin-approved any more.

AdamWl
08-19-22, 16:47
I had my first hot shower in centro short-time room (strip clubs included) and it made me feel so welcomed compared to the cold and aggressively hissing water in other places I almost shed a tear. Popped my head out and yelled to my chica, Agua! Agua caliente! She cracked up.

After we finished our session I was getting excited at the thought of jumping back in. Here were go baby, let's make love! . . . Baby? . . . ? No. . . It can't be. Am I turning this thing correctly? No water! Oh the humanity! You maniacs you blew it up!

Turned out there was something with the pipes, there was an uncovered hole on the sidewalk just in front of the entrance waiting for a plumber to get it, very easy to fall in if someone is not careful.

Fortunately, I had alcohol wipies.

I thought I got used to the cold water by now and don't really mind it, but the hot shower before the session just felt so good and put me in much better mood for the session as well.

Zona Rosa, 13 mil.


Went for a coffee. Some kind of fight broke out close to the plaza corner of the museum. A lot of commotion but hard to see anything with all the crowds. Then it moved west towards the other corner. Crowds following it, fat putas running towards it as if the monger bus had just arrived. Police on their motorbikes was there couple minutes later and soon after the excitement seem to have ended.

Osteoknot
08-19-22, 17:32
I had my first hot shower in centro short-time room (strip clubs included), and it made me feel so welcomed compared to the cold and hissing water in other places I almost shed a tear. Popped my head out and yelled to my chica, Agua! Agua caliente! She cracked up.

After we finished our session I was getting excited at the thought of jumping back in. Here were go baby, let's make love! . . . Baby? . . . ? No. . . It can't be. Am I turning this thing correctly? No water! Oh the humanity! You maniacs you blew it up!

Turned out there was something with the pipes, there was an uncovered hole on the sidewalk just in front of the entrance waiting for a plumber to get it, very easy to fall in if someone is not careful.

Fortunately, I had alcohol wipies.

Zona Rosa, 13 mil.

I thought I got used to the cold water by now and don't really mind it, but the hot shower before the session just felt so good and put me in much better mood for the session as well.

Went for a coffee. Some kind of fight broke out close to the plaza corner of the museum. A lot of commotion and hard to see anything with the crowds. Then it moved west towards the other corner. Crowds following it, fat putas running towards it as if the monger bus had just arrived. Police on their motorbikes was there couple minutes later and soon after the excitement seem to have ended.That hot water improves your experience so much. Eighty percent of the private homes in Medellin don't have hot water. A lot of them don't miss it, you'd be surprised. I know Zona Rosa well, don't be surprised if you go in there and the hot water isn't working one of these times, jaja. Was she laughing with you or at you? Jajajajaja. Have fun.

Huacho
08-19-22, 18:15
I think the option becomes available after certain post-count when the posts are not admin-approved any more.Nope, wrong again. I am still being moderated. Just click "Preview report" and you can edit.

Litmus Smut
08-19-22, 18:45
No booster shots are required. You are considered fully vaccinated after getting one (J&J) or two (all others) shots.Do you still need to show the vax passport?

AdamWl
08-19-22, 19:16
Was she laughing with you or at you? Jajajajaja. Have fun.Don't know, didn't care, bit of both probably I imagine LOL, as soon as I confirmed the message of this monumental discovery was registered I popped my head back in to not waste any more precious time with my hot date.



That hot water improves your experience so much. Eighty percent of the private homes in Medellin don't have hot water. A lot of them don't miss it, you'd be surprised. I know Zona Rosa well, don't be surprised if you go in there and the hot water isn't working one of these times, jaja. Fingers crossed, I hope they fixed it by now, definitely much better experience than the jailhouse rooms.

Fun Luvr
08-19-22, 20:55
Do you still need to show the vax passport?You need to show proof of vaccination. A vax passport is a state issued thing. I don't know if that is acceptable. I have the CDC form.

Mr Enternational
08-19-22, 21:10
You need to show proof of vaccination. A vax passport is a state issued thing. I don't know if that is acceptable. I have the CDC form.I do not know what a vax passport is but proof is a piece of paper with your name, the vaccination you got, and the date it was given to you. Besides that nobody knows the specific forms 186 countries are using.

I was in Peru with a chick and we had no problem flying from Lima to Juliaca. But Juliaca to Lima they wanted to see a vaccination to even walk into the airport. She did not have it. She had to call her son to send a picture of her vaccination. Tried to go in again. Nope. You need 2 doses; she only had 1. We went to a place to get her another dose. The people there sent her to print the picture out. She came back and got the shot and they wrote the new dose on the bottom of that paper. She was all set.

Make a copy of your card or paperor passport in case you lose the original.

JjBee62
08-19-22, 21:38
Do you still need to show the vax passport?Vaccination card is still required.

Surfer500
08-19-22, 22:08
In Medellin, anyone can develop their own hybrid model of what works for them and get their freak on for whatever makes them happy. This place is about as close to a Utopia as you can get.

Especially for those with Visa's allowing them to stay as long as they want.

So many different ways to roll, with no way being the right way.

Prior to the Pandemic I would frequent Centro daily, sometimes twice a day, yet now have a "main squeeze" who stays with me for days at a time who I travel around the Country with. And along with her, two others I've known for a while who hang with me for a day or two at a time. Whenever I'm with any of them it's like a "honeymoon", and anything and everything is on the Menu with them. I only wish I could blow more than two loads a day.

And when I'm not with them, I frequent Centro, and a lot of times will repeat with one's I know.

And sometimes I show up in the mood for a spinner or a bigger model and go on the hunt.

Regardless of how differently guys roll here, I think many would agree that it's a Utopia here, and so fucking cheap.

Knowledge
08-19-22, 22:58
I've heard good things about Premium Plaza.


Don't know, didn't care, bit of both probably I imagine LOL, as soon as I confirmed the message of this monumental discovery was registered I popped my head back in to not waste any more precious time with my hot date.

Fingers crossed, I hope they fixed it by now, definitely much better experience than the jailhouse rooms.

Knowledge
08-19-22, 22:59
Premier Plaza I meant.


Don't know, didn't care, bit of both probably I imagine LOL, as soon as I confirmed the message of this monumental discovery was registered I popped my head back in to not waste any more precious time with my hot date.

Fingers crossed, I hope they fixed it by now, definitely much better experience than the jailhouse rooms.

Osteoknot
08-20-22, 01:34
Theme was bathrooms.

Oterri
08-20-22, 03:30
Based on my experience and RTFF, I think the following casaa are the best bets for having more than 10 girls to choose from. Most of the time at least.

New Life, Zandaly, Dulce Company, Sexy Amigas.

Did I miss any good ones?

Osteoknot
08-20-22, 07:55
This place is about as close to a Utopia as you can get.Medellin is my Utopia, Shangri-La, Nirvana, Shambala, Heaven-On-Earth, and Garden of Eden. I try not over-sell it for two main reasons. I don't believe my experiences will necessary be mirrored by others simply because of personal differences. And I don't want demand from increased number of visiting mongers to outstrip supply and drive up prices. If and whenever you see me write, "Medellin sucks" or "tell others how awful Medellin is" I am playing that latter hand. I have no idea if that accomplishes anything or not but at least I tried.

I have only been back to US of A less than two weeks. Feels longer. Already took a one-week vacation to Florida partly in an attempt to ameliorate the psychological effect of going from being loved and adored daily to where the only female who has wanted to kiss me since I have returned is my mother, jajaja.

I was on Atlantic Beach, Florida two days ago, see foto of view from my room. I was on the sand when a little cutie in a bikini stood up as I approached, and started shaking her ass as if she were dancing. She seemed to be saying, "come and get it". She got cuter as I got closer which is always nice. She was accompanied by some Jabba the Hut type of female who could've been friend, mother or sister, impossible to tell.

Anywho, never been the shy type and we were on the beach right in front of my hotel room at the Seahorse, so of course I immediately thought of the nasty things I could do to her in my room. Fuck, I'd plow the fat ugly one if it would get me to this one, you know how I am. If it is female and has two out of three wet holes available, I will fuck it.

I got within about five yards, close enough to say "Hi" to the lump, when the cute one turned and ran away down the beach, about a hundred meters, then continued to dance at the water's edge.

I wasn't certain if I had been soundly rejected or if I was supposed to literally follow in pursuit, but I didn't have the patience for the latter. Plus, my gut was telling me "rejected" so following her would have been an exercise in futility.

This is a good example of what I mean when I wrote many times before that Medellin has "ruined" me for dating and chicas here in the US of A or Pussy Prison. I would have been half-way to ruining this chica back in my motel room while her friend watched if I were in MDE. Such a difference.

I didn't take more than two-steps out of my way and continued across the sand back to my motel room, no regrets, but no patience for these types of encounters any more.

Random Gratuitous Fotos showing why MDE is obviously better.

World Travel 69
08-20-22, 19:03
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1UxdkQ9-vm36hqZmjE87YQcheNFdWBiKd&ll=6.20997581540802%2C-75.53233875&z=13

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists


I saw a map here of the areas to stroll and the area to stay in but I forgot his name. I think it ended in a number. Senior member.

Nil Admirari
08-20-22, 19:19
Based on my experience and RTFF, I think the following casaa are the best bets for having more than 10 girls to choose from. Most of the time at least.
New Life, Zandaly, Dulce Company, Sexy Amigas.
Did I miss any good ones?
In El Centro, I'd agree those are your best bets. But for a much pricier alternative (fancier reception area and rooms, nicer neighborhood) there's Spa Fantasias Energy Cra. 74 #101 49, in Laureles, and somewhat in between in price and amenity, Eros spa, Cra. 81 A #34 a 15. Both in Laureles. With perhaps two hot-looking exceptions at Spa Fantasias over the course of 10 or so visits, I've never found much difference in the quality of chica lineups at either of these casas when compared with the best of the El Centro venues. Of course, there's also the famous (former Escobar manse and quite expensive) Loutrons--but in my two (pre-pandemic) visits there were never more than a handful of ladies (3 to 5) available and none that would provide the (for me) essential extras (DFK, BBBJ) even for a generous propina. I took a pass. But, that said, as I vaguely recall, the few chicas in the Loutron lineup were definitely better looking than you'd find elsewhere.

PseudoGene
08-20-22, 21:47
Vaccination card is still required.Airport personnel in MDE asks to put a mask on. Last time it took me a while to find one from my maleta.

Osteoknot
08-21-22, 01:27
I got a zillion of them but these will be the last, for now.

ColombiaLover
08-21-22, 02:10
When I was there two weeks ago, they required masks coming off the plane and were handing them out to those who did not have them. When returning home, there were plenty of folks in the check-in area without masks, but when you got to the international terminal security check-point, they required the mask (although lots of folks later took them off or were not wearing them fully in the waiting areas). So, yes, just have a mask handy so it does not impede your dash to the immigration line!


Airport personnel in MDE asks to put a mask on. Last time it took me a while to find one from my maleta.

UniversalX
08-21-22, 06:04
I had my first hot shower in centro short-time room (strip clubs included) and it made me feel so welcomed compared to the cold and aggressively hissing water in other places I almost shed a tear. Popped my head out and yelled to my chica, Agua! Agua caliente! She cracked up. Zona Rosa, 13 mil.Is there a list of establishments with Showers with Hot Water?? (Short time / Airbnb / Hotels / Casas / Spas / Etc.).

Since the lack of hot water is common in MDE and Columbia in general. I have read back plenty of pages but I don't see where BM's indicate where they stay or mongering establishments if they have Hot Water Showers available.

I'm sure a list establishments that have Hot Showers/Hot Water would be of value. Or if BM's can indicate Hot Shower/Hot Water in future posts.

Zeos1
08-21-22, 12:47
Is there a list of establishments with Showers with Hot Water?? (Short time / Airbnb / Hotels / Casas / Spas / Etc.).

Since the lack of hot water is common in MDE and Columbia in general. I have read back plenty of pages but I don't see where BM's indicate where they stay or mongering establishments if they have Hot Water Showers available.

I'm sure a list establishments that have Hot Showers/Hot Water would be of value. Or if BM's can indicate Hot Shower/Hot Water in future posts.A city with around 4 million people in area and you would like a list of places with hot water. Anyway. A suggestion is that if it is a hotel catering to tourists at all it probably has hot water, at least some of the time. As for other places you could not predict from one day to the next let alone have a reliable list.

Surfer500
08-21-22, 13:29
I'm sure a list establishments that have Hot Showers/Hot Water would be of value. Or if BM's can indicate Hot Shower/Hot Water in future posts.Generally speaking most overnight accommodations, something that you can book online in Medellin, like on booking, or another platform will have hot water in Medellin.

However, in other Cities, such as along the coast, or in the hotter areas of the Country they might not, and you need to inquire with the establishment. I recently rented an apartment in San Geronimo about an hour away from Medellin, and the place had three showers and only one of them had an electric heated shower head. And on Booking from where I rented it thru, there was no mention about hot water.

As far as Love Motels in Centro having hot water, well I have found that if your paying around 12,000 Pesos or more for a room that has a shower, it will probably have hot water. But again you need to ask. And then there is the issue of towels. Lot's of places will only give you one, so you need to ask for another one if you want one.

In and around the Veracruz Church area there are several Love Motels that consistently have hot water, albeit it may at times be very hot or lukewarm, and if you go on the backside, where all bars are, and your not paying much, don't count on there being any hot water, let alone a bathroom in lot's of the rooms.

As far as Casa's, Strip Clubs, etc, I'm sure the higher end ones do, but again you should just ask if that is a requirement for you.

Nil Admirari
08-21-22, 13:47
Is there a list of establishments with Showers with Hot Water?? (Short time / Airbnb / Hotels / Casas / Spas / Etc.)...........

A bizarrely, quixotic request to be sure, albeit one that I can personally relate to--as someone who religiously starts each day with a 10-15 minute hot shower (my substitute for meditation, yoga, and psychotherapy) and relishes a hot water dousing after sessioning with a chica. As Zeos1 suggests, tourist-oriented hotels reliably have hot water. Another simple (if clichéd) screening criteria--you generally get what you pay for. Any Medellin hotel / AirBnB over some minimal price (say $30 per night) can be counted on to have heated agua flowing from the taps. This criteria also (albeit a little less reliably) applies to clubs, casas, spas etc.

More practically, perhaps one of the long-term El Centro Rats among the board members can provide a short list of which among the more popular, bargain-basement mongering venues, (e.g. casas such as Zandalay? Amigas Sexy?; clubs--Barre Ejecutiva? Conejitos?; short term hotels--Premium Plaza? Hotel de Grieff?) dependably offer hot showers. Like AdamWl, whose post initiated this chain of comments, I've been pleasantly surprised on rare occasions by finding hot water in the most improbable of El Centro joints, but don't recall where. Such a list would be practical to compile and no doubt welcome by some (if not most) of us--with the exception of Osteo and the other advocates of paleo-hygiene.

Osteoknot
08-21-22, 13:59
A city with around 4 million people in area and you would like a list of places with hot water. Anyway. A suggestion is that if it is a hotel catering to tourists at all it probably has hot water, at least some of the time. As for other places you could not predict from one day to the next let alone have a reliable list.Sounds like a good idea at first blush, on paper. A Hot Water List.

For one thing, it would be out-of-date the moment it was posted.

Except for the higher end tourist areas where you could reasonably expect hot water, you would more or less assume your short-time love motels will not have hot water, and be happy when they do. Otherwise, ask before your longer reservations and don't freak out if and when you have to do without hot water at times.

I get it. Guys bring their own shower heads and want hot water. My Numero Uno Novia Catgirl loves extra hot showers when she came to my hotel, hotter than I like. Believe it or not, a surprising number of chicas shun the hot water and would laugh and try to hit me with cold water when we are in the shower together.

I am not trying to get anyone to change their personal preferences but sometimes a little adaptation goes a long way. There are many parallel examples when visiting a foreign country. Remember, that it is much more realistic and effective for the individual mongerer to adapt to their surroundings than it is to expect an entire country to adapt to your individual preferences. I see guys expend a lot of energy on the latter. They often get the desired results but time and energy, like money, is a finite resource for most of us. I try to expend as much energy as I can in Medellin on fucking, licking and getting sucked, jajajaja, and otherwise maintain a relaxed state.

Fotos: I lied in my previous post and I am posting more chicas in the shower. The last foto, if you haven't been "exposed" to this little contraption is how most lower strata (in other words, the majority) of people in Medellin get a hot shower, remembering that the vast majority of private residences don't have any hot water. They sell these mini-water heaters built into the shower head everywhere including on the shelves at Exito. They make a great gift, just remember they have to be wired to electricity which depending on your skill set you can do yourself or pay to have that done as part of the gift. I first saw one of these things in Pattaya, Thailand and it was a little disconcerting to step under one of these these things with bare wires showing and the water running, but I got used to it and nothing bad has ever happened, yet, jajaja.

Mojo Bandit
08-21-22, 16:24
The last foto, if you haven't been "exposed" to this little contraption is how most lower strata (in other words, the majority) of people in Medellin get a hot shower, remembering that the vast majority of private residences don't have any hot water. They sell these mini-water heaters built into the shower head everywhere including on the shelves at Exito. They make a great gift, just remember they have to be wired to electricity which depending on your skill set you can do yourself or pay to have that done as part of the gift. I first saw one of these things in Pattaya, Thailand and it was a little disconcerting to step under one of these these things with bare wires showing and the water running, but I got used to it and nothing bad has ever happened, yet, jajaja.In this video a local chica who runs a Youtube video out of Bogota, even thought he video the states "be careful" she actually says in the video that she has never heard of anyone getting shocked by an electric shower head. She does not talk about that until 4 minutes into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6d7tW21Ug&t=352s

Zeos1
08-21-22, 16:55
In this video a local chica who runs a Youtube video out of Bogota, even thought he video the states "be careful" she actually says in the video that she has never heard of anyone getting shocked by an electric shower head. She does not talk about that until 4 minutes into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6d7tW21Ug&t=352sYep, the shower head variety of water heating is by far the most common in any mid to lower income settings, establishments. The casas downtown may have these in some of the shower in some of the rooms and they work only some of the time. I don't bother fiddling with the controls if I'm in one as I often see bare wires and 220 volt connections.

World Travel 69
08-21-22, 17:44
I added Street walkers in the Park and a Massage place that is worth a visit.

MiamiBoy1
08-21-22, 17:49
Gosh, if you want hot water stay in a nice hotel or apartment in a nice neighborhood. Don't expect all the bells and whistles paying under 3 bucks for a room. This topic should be moved to the stupid shit in MDE thread, no wonder mongers can't find useful info in all the clutter here.

Knowledge
08-21-22, 17:52
That is excellent advice about how to use the shower head electric water heaters. Never touch them while the shower is in use or the bathroom or shower floor is wet. They are generally safe if they are installed correctly and grounded.


Yep, the shower head variety of water heating is by far the most common in any mid to lower income settings, establishments. The casas downtown may have these in some of the shower in some of the rooms and they work only some of the time. I don't bother fiddling with the controls if I'm in one as I often see bare wires and 220 volt connections.

Osteoknot
08-21-22, 18:07
In this video a local chica who runs a Youtube video out of Bogota, even thought he video the states "be careful" she actually says in the video that she has never heard of anyone getting shocked by an electric shower head. She does not talk about that until 4 minutes into the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6d7tW21Ug&t=352sI know it's a video, she neeeeeds to talk and supply some audio. She's a little mouthy but very cute, she was funny when she said, "Are you kidding me, are you trying to kill yourself"? "I know that it's crazy, are you trying to kill me"? "We are Colombians, ees not that bad". She's funny but she would look better (to me) and sound better with my cock in her mouth, and that would shut her up at least temporarily. She mentioned living in Virginia before. I wonder who will snatch her up and take her back to the states where I bet she gains 25 kilograms, jaja.

As I mentioned it's unnerving to stand under one of those shower head heaters. Kinda like she said, she never heard of anyone getting hurt by one, yet she recommends against using them.

I sure as hell wouldn't touch one while I standing in water and soaking wet. Add some 220 V and that is a lethal combination. The one I saw with bare copper hanging out was in Thailand. I stood on the plastic toilet (not grounded) did my "best guess" adjustment for the hot water before I started the shower, and went for it. Lived to tell the tale, jajajja.

Fotos: For those of you who pay attention, in the first foto, the red on the floor is hair dye, not sangre, jaja.

Fuck, she's cute. With an annoying voice. I let it run into the next video of hers. Great body, too.

Mr Enternational
08-21-22, 18:32
even thought he video the states "be careful" she actually says in the video that she has never heard of anyone getting shocked by an electric shower head.Many years ago I was dating a chick in Costa Rica. I always stayed at her house. One morning I went to take a shower. The water was cold. I reached up and touched that thing and it shocked the shit out of me. I am pretty wary about touching those things with the water on these days. Adjust it to the winter setting before turning the water on and leave it alone. The less you open the water, the hotter it will be. That is if the shit is wired correctly.

Nil Admirari
08-21-22, 18:44
Gosh, if you want hot water stay in a nice hotel or apartment in a nice neighborhood. Don't expect all the bells and whistles paying under 3 bucks for a room. This topic should be moved to the stupid shit in MDE thread, no wonder mongers can't find useful info in all the clutter here.

MiamiBoy, please relax, take a deep breath--and a hot (no, make that cold) shower if readily available.

Actually, for those many Medellin BMs (who, unlike you, if I recall rightly from previous posts) regularly, or just from time-to-time, visit the lower-end casas, spas, clubs, and short-time, love hotels, the availability of hot water with their bargain-basement dalliance can be of legit interest--and a quite reasonable and diverting topic for a half-day or so of interchange on this thread. Speaking for myself, it had not occurred to me before reading a couple of the recent posts, that the use of electronic (often jerry-rigged) shower heads may explain why, in the same casa, one can find hot water in one room and not the next, or on one day, and not on the following. A little "Aha" moment of epiphany on an otherwise slow Sunday morning. And useful info to boot.

Osteoknot
08-21-22, 19:02
Gosh, if you want hot water stay in a nice hotel or apartment in a nice neighborhood. Don't expect all the bells and whistles paying under 3 bucks for a room. This topic should be moved to the stupid shit in MDE thread, no wonder mongers can't find useful info in all the clutter here.With an electric shower head heater, 220 V, and a short circuit, jajajajajajaaaaaa.

Now for the good stuff, fotos: All of the same chica, the amazing Purrfekt Piel. Besides having a damn-near purrfekt body and a sexual dynamo in bed, there is not a single tattoo or piercing anywhere on her lucious body. She has been a solid #5-7 on my List since its inception, and she never wavers.

I made a couple of very rare introductions (don't ask unless I have gotten to know you first) for her to mongering buddies of mine and they both said the same thing. "How can you possibly have five chicas above her"?

I have never bought her a phone and she charges me below FMV (Fair Market Value). Of all the chicas on my List, she is the easiest to get along with, never hassles me over anything. She is totally compliant sexually. For that reason, we go out on dates, more than any other chica on my List except for Numero Uno, Catgirl. I really do love Purrfekt Piel and I believe she loves me as well, and if she doesn't, she has me fooled and that's good enough for me, jajajaja.

Osteoknot
08-21-22, 23:25
Many years ago I was dating a chick in Costa Rica. I always stayed at her house. One morning I went to take a shower. The water was cold. I reached up and touched that thing and it shocked the shit out of me. I am pretty wary about touching those things with the water on these days. Adjust it to the winter setting before turning the water on and leave it alone. The less you open the water, the hotter it will be. That is if the shit is wired correctly.I am happy for you that you always stayed at her house. Saves money. Thanks for sharing that.

First time I saw an electric shower head heater, well maybe you read my prior post. I would've just as soon reached out and put my hand inside an alligator's open mouth. As I have observed over the years here, you do not always come across as the sharpest crayon in the box, jjajajajajajajaa.

Just to show you that we are capable of doing stupid things (except yours was dangerous) I had my two antique sports cars hooked up to battery tenders or trickle chargers while I was in Medellin this past trip.

One I hooked up wrong, reverse polarity, positive to negative and negative to positive, and fried the battery. The only other apperent damage so far is that the digital clock no longer works, jajajaja. I hope that is the extent of the damage done there.

There's more. I forgot my other car was hooked up to the battery tender and pulled out of my garage. When I returned home I had a "WTF" moment when my extension cord was strewn all over the driveway, jajajaja. Fortunately, no harm done there. So we all do stupid things, some are stupider and more dangerous than others.

I contend your mind is warped. Not in a perverted way, but in a "I have lost touch with normal reality" way if half of what you claim on here is true. Even though you and I are nothing alike, I have been told the same thing many times, that I am living in a seperate world, jajajaja. I readily admit that when I am in Medellin, it feels like an alternate universe to me, compared to here in Pussy Prison.

Non-random gratuitous fotos: Nine different chicas from Ground Zero (except for one) who I picked up in real time and took to Love Motels. All were clean, happy, pretty, sexy, and good performers for FMV (Fair Market Value) of a little more than one peso per minute.

A user here once sarcastically chided me by saying, "I guess your hunting skills at Ground Zero are better than others". I don't know about that but 95% of the time I can find chicas there like these. I banged two preggos on a day when users were posting here there were none at Ground Zero, and both were cute and good performers.

I responded to a PM earlier today about El Centro being a cool place to leave your chicas in the bedroom asleep at The Nutti, run across the street for a session or two at Ground Zero in a love motel, then back to The Nutti for more fun. Not hard to average 4. 3 chicas per day doing stuff like that. Asti Out.

Surfer500
08-22-22, 02:44
Actually, for those many Medellin BMs (who, unlike you, if I recall rightly from previous posts) regularly, or just from time-to-time, visit the lower-end casas, spas, clubs, and short-time, love hotels, the availability of hot water with their bargain-basement dalliance can be of legit interest--and a quite reasonable and diverting topic for a half-day or so of interchange on this thread. Speaking for myself, it had not occurred to me before reading a couple of the recent posts, that the use of electronic (often jerry-rigged) shower heads may explain why, in the same casa, one can find hot water in one room and not the next, or on one day, and not on the following. A little "Aha" moment of epiphany on an otherwise slow Sunday morning. And useful info to boot.Seeing that we are on the subject of "hot showers". I was in a Love Motel in Centro today that actually had a rainfall showerhead in it with an external water heating system. I had my Chica shower first, and when she stepped out I asked if there was hot water. And she said yes, very hot, in fact to hot.

This may sound odd, but she didn't know how to adjust the temperature by turning on the cold water as well. Still may seem odd to some, but the majority of Colombians don't have hot water as has been noted here, let alone the heated shower head types being discussed here as well.

So my Chica did not know that she could adjust the water temperature, meaning instead of one valve to turn on the shower, meaning the water is either on or off, versus having both a hot and cold water valve to turn the water on and adjust the temperature.

It's one thing to have hot water, but imagine having it, and not knowing how to use it meaning adjusting the temperature.

What threw her for a curve was that there were two water valves, one hot and one cold, which she was not accustomed to.

Regardless, she figured it out though when showering afterwards getting all my jizz off of her.

UniversalX
08-22-22, 09:16
I didn't mean a literal list. Just a I stayed here, and hot water was available. Was not trying to stress the forum out. LOL.

Yea, the AdamWI (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2733716&viewfull=1#post2733716) post got me thinking since I seen previous complaints regarding the lack of Hot Water and as well I had experiences with the lack of Hot Water in establishments.

Thanks for those who posted positive constructive comments.


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....Actually, for those many Medellin BMs (who, unlike you, if I recall rightly from previous posts) regularly, or just from time-to-time, visit the lower-end casas, spas, clubs, and short-time, love hotels, the availability of hot water with their bargain-basement dalliance can be of legit interest--and a quite reasonable and diverting topic for a half-day or so of interchange on this thread. Speaking for myself, it had not occurred to me before reading a couple of the recent posts, that the use of electronic (often jerry-rigged) shower heads may explain why, in the same casa, one can find hot water in one room and not the next, or on one day, and not on the following. A little "Aha" moment of epiphany on an otherwise slow Sunday morning. And useful info to boot.I am glad that this short thread may help someone (especially Newbies to MDE / Columbia) seeking Hot Water. And pleased someone felt it was of "legit interest--and a quite reasonable.... "

Thanks everyone back to posting Mongering Escapades.

Osteoknot
08-22-22, 10:55
I didn't mean a literal list. Just a I stayed here, and hot water was available. Was not trying to stress the forum out. LOL.
Thanks everyone back to posting Mongering Escapades.I know you were joking about "stressing the forum" but let me check. Were you feeling stressed Smurfer Dude? Null Admiral? MoJo? Clueless? Mr. Interstate? MiamiToy? Maybe that last guy a little bit stressed but I am confident he recovered. I am afraid you may have a slightly exaggerated since of self-importance. I know exactly how that feels, jaja.

Status quo around here, someone brings up a topic but then it takes on a life of its own, for better or worse. The original poster is often just a springboard, sort of like an inanimate carbon rod of Simpsons fame.

I often thrown in several fotos in my responses simply for the value of gratuitous sex.

As you can see here and now, I will flog a dead horse into dog meat. I am known for that and that won't change.

I'd have to say you still missed the point somewhat. List or not, as soon you as post you experience, and then the next guy goes "there" and finds the opposite, which I promise you will happen, all you have done is created an expectation followed by disappointment. All unhappiness is preceded by desire, according to Buddha. Things change in Colombia more often than most places I have been to in the world. But anyone who wants to post about whether or not their shower had hot water last night is free to do so, obviously.

Which brings me to my second point. A much more valuable attribute that will keep a mongerer happy in Medellin in general is not "complaining" or focusing on the "lack" of something that is normal for eighty percent of the population, but instead be flexible and adapt. Dare I suggest "accept" that hot water will not always be available and (gasp) re-condition your brain into thinking that this does not preclude having a good time. Be pleasantly surprised when you do get the hot water that appears to be so important to you and others.

With or without your permission, the board will Keep On Keepin' On. Try not to get electrocuted by a shower head and you should do fine. Jajaja.

Forever18
08-22-22, 11:19
I got a zillion of them but these will be the last, for now.Nice photos, where and how do you find some of these girls?

Surfer500
08-22-22, 13:33
Thanks for those who posted positive constructive comments.
Electric Shower Head. Something to look for and knowledge to adjust settings.I've never seen an electric hot water shower head in a Centro Love Motel.

I haven't been in all of the Love Motels, but have never seen one which I suspect is for many reasons, such as patrons getting electrocuted.

And I could easily see this happening.

I've heard of people dying in Love Motels, but not by electrocution.

Oterri
08-22-22, 16:56
Folks,

Couple of quick questions:

1. Are threesomes usually available in casas?

2. Do casas offer any discount for two ladies for example but one get one free. LOL just kidding. May be something like 100 K for two?

3. Does anyone have any reccs for truly bi or lesbo SWs?

Often Threesomes are duds but once in a while you hit the jackpot. I would love to know what the experienced mongers have to say about this possibility in casas or even with centro girls.

Mtndew704
08-22-22, 17:55
I've never seen an electric hot water shower head in a Centro Love Motel.

I haven't been in all of the Love Motels, but have never seen one which I suspect is for many reasons, such as patrons getting electrocuted.

And I could easily see this happening.

I've heard of people dying in Love Motels, but not by electrocution.They die because they don't do drugs in their home country but decide to go to Colombia and do drugs there. Makes no sense.

Osteoknot
08-22-22, 19:47
They die because they don't do drugs in their home country but decide to go to Colombia and do drugs there. Makes no sense.Dewey, I am not taking your remark personally but your obtuse comment requires a little further explanation if it is to be understood.

The thread was about electric shower heads and electrocution in Love Motels, I believe.

Somehow you made the jump to death from what? Drug overdose? Getting murdered by the drug cartel? Getting run over by a bus while high? Jajajajajaja. Having a heart attack while fucking and high in a love motel??

And the risk is higher because they are doing drugs part time here instead of full-time?

I cannot find the path your are on, let alone follow it. Enlighten me.

Elispio
08-22-22, 20:19
Where the term "Guest friendly" came from?

HoustonTxJake
08-22-22, 20:30
Has anyone found a short term hotel room in Centro or even a casa with air conditioning. I hate sweating my ass off and overheating.


I've never seen an electric hot water shower head in a Centro Love Motel.

I haven't been in all of the Love Motels, but have never seen one which I suspect is for many reasons, such as patrons getting electrocuted.

And I could easily see this happening.

I've heard of people dying in Love Motels, but not by electrocution.

AdamWl
08-22-22, 20:52
Interesting discussion on showers. I've been in Zona Rosa couple times now and it can be iffy indeed and even varying room to room. One room had both, other only piping hot with no cold water whatsoever. Another time it was barely warm.

Did some RTFF on Premier Plaza suggested by Knowledge and seems like they have it hot as well, I'll probably visit soon.

Now that I 've seen the picture I think I saw one of those electric showerhead heaters in one of the rooms in Zandaly. Nr 13 I believe.

AdamWl
08-22-22, 20:56
I popped in to Nueva Avenida to see what's up, as it felt like for ever since I've been there.

30% of line-up looked new me. I don't do the strip-club sessions lately any more, the lighting can be extremely misleading there, even when one is sober, not to mention the time constraints.

Met a slim, fit and tall dancer from Bello and we chatted a bit. She said she normally works in Barra but it was closed tonight. Apparently some girls got into a serious fight over some big spender from Philippines (of all places) and police had to be called.

She complained about some girls dressing bad here and also the sort of customers this club is getting. I agreed it's definitely different. Couple times I've been in Barra it was much classier, people were dressed much nicer too. But the atmosphere was more stiff (I've been early evening so maybe it changes later though). Nueva is much rowdier, chaotic and more entertaining, I've seen come crazy parties here. Not long after one of the customers did a headstand and 'danced' to the music in that position, good luck seeing that in Barra LOL.

I asked if she knows the girl I sessioned with in Barra, she didn't and said most girls aren't really friendly with each other there.

Anyway, I was leaving, so just got the number (as well as couple other girls that looked good naked) for potential daylight session outside and hit the Botero Plaza
Found a nice Vennie. 40/40 (initially she quoted 50). 5 months in Medellin. 20 yo and 4 yo daughter. Great tits despite a baby. Maybe the trick is then to have the baby at a young age, then the body can still recover. She was a bit serious at the beginning but soon relaxed and brightened up.

After the shower she did ask me for money upfront. Not cool. Would she tell me earlier I would show her the door (as I did already with one chica before and it worked). We did some arguing but finally I got irritated with it and gave in, making sure she understands this is an exception, the first and last time I do it and I'm not happy about it at all. She did provide a good service though and I can't say she didn't work for it; we had some fun and I think it was even overtime. I might repeat.

She didn't have a phone but gave me a number to either her BF or brother, forgot now. Either way not going to arrange a meeting via him.

Surfer500
08-22-22, 22:01
IAfter the shower she did ask me for money upfront. Not cool. Would she tell me earlier I would show her the door (as I did already with one chica before and it worked). We did some arguing but finally I got irritated with it and gave in, making sure she understands this is an exception, the first and last time I do it and I'm not happy about it at all. She did provide a good service though and I can't say she didn't work for it; we had some fun and I think it was even overtime. I might repeat.Interesting that she asked to be paid after showering versus before taking her clothes off.

I typically tell new ones that I always pay afterwards before taking them upstairs.

Another option if they ask for the money upfront, not that all of $ 10 USD is going to break you, is tell them you will pay 1/2 upfront and the other half afterwards.

Another thing I sometimes tell new ones is that if the service is good there will be a tip, and to some that is music to their ears as the locals don't tip much if at all.

Regardless, it's always a red flag when a Chica asks to be paid up front, and your lucky that she didn't just lay there dead as that is typically the outcome.

Litmus Smut
08-22-22, 23:21
Scanning the Spanish language news sites has proven ineffective. Does anyone know when Parque Lleras is expected to finish reconstruction?

Deafcon
08-22-22, 23:38
Scanning the Spanish language news sites has proven ineffective. Does anyone know when Parque Lleras is expected to finish reconstruction?I read not until some time next year.

Osteoknot
08-22-22, 23:51
Nice photos, where and how do you find some of these girls?Two fotos were of my Number One girlfriend who I knew before I came to Medellin. One was a personal referral from a fellow mongerer. One was her friend. One was a maid at a hotel where I had stayed prior who was not Pay for Play. Two were "amigas of amigas".

One was a Webcam model who I met on-line and actual flew to Bogota to fuck which breaks all my rules, but worth it. University student, fluent in English, she was 23 and with the same guy since she was 14, her Sugar Daddy. He was in his 60's. Her mother sold her virginity to the same guy when she was fourteen years old for 3 million COP. She loved it as partly evidenced by the fact that she stuck with him.

He lives in Miami and came to town once a month. She got bored and wanted a new fuck and a laptop computer for school. I spent four days and three nights with her and bought her an entry level laptop computer.

She was phenomenol and I never saw her again. I wish I could show you her face as she is my Number One all-time most complimented chica for beauty. She's the one in the shower looking back under her arm, tiny pic. When you do the mouseover it says "videoplayer" and I have the video.

I gave her phone number to a mongerer from here a few weeks ago when he was in Bogota. I had not tried it in over two years. Number no longer any good. Such is life.

IMO, the best way to build a cadre of quality chicas with whom you would want to repeat is "amigas of amigas", and a very underutilized resource from what I read here. But hey, maybe that's just me.

Mtndew704
08-23-22, 00:18
Scanning the Spanish language news sites has proven ineffective. Does anyone know when Parque Lleras is expected to finish reconstruction?Its overrated and overpriced anyways.

SureMan
08-23-22, 00:32
This was in Centro having some beers in my last trip.

Zeos1
08-23-22, 00:42
Scanning the Spanish language news sites has proven ineffective. Does anyone know when Parque Lleras is expected to finish reconstruction?This can be misleading. There is a small actual park, with trees and paths, and it is about 1/2 a square block. Pretty small really. Then there is the area around it with bars, restaurants, nightclubs, etc. The small actual park has almost nothing to do with the other activities in the area, which is also referred to as Parque Lleras, about 8 or 10 square blocks equivalent. As far as I know nothing is going on that affects the nightclubs, bars, restaurants, etc. Other than post covid shut downs of some places that have gone out of business, etc. So the reconstruction is not really relevant to what we talk about here. The actual physical park was never much of a part of anything, other than a bit of green space in an entertainment area.

Osteoknot
08-23-22, 01:31
Folks,

Couple of quick questions:

1. Are threesomes usually available in casas?

2. Do casas offer any discount for two ladies for example but one get one free. LOL just kidding. May be something like 100 K for two?

3. Does anyone have any reccs for truly bi or lesbo SWs?

Often Threesomes are duds but once in a while you hit the jackpot. I would love to know what the experienced mongers have to say about this possibility in casas or even with centro girls.My casa numbers are relatively low, however, and you may need further opinion from someone else.

If there's one thing true about casas that has been said over and over is that virtually anything can be found or had for a price. If you are willing to plunk down the pesos, you will get anything you want, assuming the legality of your kink. A good place to start is the madam. In fact, if I have something specific in mind, I will sometimes skip the line-up and go directly to the madam with questions like, "Who gives the best blowjobs? Who loves to take it up the ass? Who can deep throat and not come up for air"?

A more common pathway in a casa for a 3-way would be to go through the line-up, pick your chica who puts the tingle in your dingle, then ask her with whom would she like to do a three-way? If you don't like the chica she picks, ask her to pick again. If you have to ask her a third time, either you are too picky or the stars are not aligned and I would take a pass (on the 3-way) until another day. Don't expect a discount but everything is negotiable. I would expect to pay the normal rate times two, the first time, in a casa for a three-way.

The majority of my sessions in my hotel room are with two chicas or more. A chica will virtually always be willing or want to bring another amiga in on the action if for no other reason that to "share the wealth". When I was a noobie I thought this was because I was so irrestible but really they want their friends to get their share of my money, and it is less boring for them with a second chica in the room for conversations, etc.

Three ways can be a very slippery slope, as you mentioned. If it's two chicas you don't know, who know each other, that is a very common set up for getting drugged and or robbing you while the other keeps you occupied. Not really a concern in a casa. For Gawd's sake, never get in the shower with one with the other is foot loose and fancy free in the room with your stuff. Keep a pair of eyes on both chicas as much as possible.

When mongerers randomly try to set up a 3-way with chicas they don't know and who don't know each other, they report a high degree of disappointment even when not getting pilfered. This is because what usually transpires is not a true 3-way but a series of one-on-one sexual activities while the chicas tag in and out. I don't really call that a 3-way, and I will assume you want to avoid that scenario.

Ideally, you want to start with at least one chica who you know well or at the very least with whom you have sessioned and you were happy with the encounter. From there, it's a very simple matter to ask her if she has a friend who would like to do a 3-way. 99% of the time she will say yes. You can and should ask to see a foto, and you may want to consider seeing her friend separately first, before the three-way. I know this sounds like a lot of work but the more your front-load your efforts, the better chances you will have a fun, new three-way.

To answer another one of your questions, all the SWs I have met in Medellin seem to fall into one of three categories: Lesbians (who do it strictly for the money), bisexual, and bi-curious, jajaja. I am sure their must be a purely heterosexual female SW somewhere in MDE but I have yet to meet her and that's alright by me, jajaja.

Once you have the chicas and the three of you are naked in bed, whether in a casa or your hotel, have fun and have a three-way! In my experience, the chicas like it when you run your bed like a porn set. Don't wait until the last minute to figure out what you will be doing. You can be spontaneous and specific at the same time. Don't waste the opportunity. Have at least a couple of three-way positions in mind before you start and then take it from there.

"Combinacion" is a good word to know which basically means "switch". For example, one chica is sitting on your face and the other is giving you a blowjob, same activity but the girls will simply switch positions when you call out "Combinacion"!

If you are going to be plunging multiple holes in rapid succession, you may want to discuss the logistics ahead of time. For example, there is more than one three-way team I have where I use a condom on one chica but not the other, for two totally different reasons.

Another school of thought is just "go for it" until someone says stop. I found in those situations more money will virtually always get you what you want in real time, it's simply a matter of how bad you want it. For example, I was pounding a chica's ass in doggy with the other chica resting her head on her ass. She knew what was coming but when I pulled out of the chica's ass sin condom, she made a face like she was recoiing in horror. "50 mil mas" I blurt out. She shoots back, "100"! I rapidly counter with "75"! Half a second later her mouth is wide open, tongue out and she takes the ass-to-mouth from her friend without hesitation. The entire upgrade took less than five seconds. I found the foto of the beginning of this encounter, posted below, easy to figure out which one, jajajaa.

In summary, ideally you want to have had sex with both girls separately, and they know each other. You can take the shortcut of having had good sex with only one of them and have her bring a friend. Ask to see a foto first of the friend but they Photoshop the hell out of their fotos, jajaja.

Fotos: I tried to post fotos I haven't used before, of 3-ways. The point to the foto of me eating ass is someone else has to be holding the camera and taking the foto and that is a sometimes overlooked benefit of a 3-way, having a photogrpaher, jeje.

The foto where I went from one girl's ass to the other's mouth is fairly obvious. Those two used to do lesbian Web camming and it was kinky fun to go on-line and watch them right before or after I railed on all six of their wet holes.

The two chicas with the big smiles on the roller coaster, the one on the right is Mi Numero Uno Catgirl, and the other is about eight girlfriends earlier for her. Catgirl goes thru girlfriends faster than any guy I ever met and that one was one of my faves. They no longer speak to each other which is par for the course for Catgirl. The fact that Catgirl only recently this past trip started seeing chicas on my List, took our relationship to the next level.

I have lost count of the number of sisters I have banged in 3-ways but the two shown trying to dodge the foto in bed, one with her feet up, were two of the best. I tried to repeat on them but the one closer to the camera spent some time working in Panama and her price doubled and I told her "no way". I waited her out thinking her price would come back down but it never did, so far.

Osteoknot
08-23-22, 01:54
This was in Centro having some beers in my last trip.You look sure, man, and I mean that as a compliment. Keep On Keepin' On.

UniversalX
08-23-22, 01:57
Status quo around here,

I'd have to say you still missed the point somewhat. List or not, as soon you as post you experience, and then the next guy goes "there" and finds the opposite, which I promise you will happen, all you have done is created an expectation followed by disappointment.

But anyone who wants to post about whether or not their shower had hot water last night is free to do so, obviously.

Which brings me to my second point. A much more valuable attribute that will keep a mongerer happy in Medellin in general is not "complaining" or focusing on the "lack" of something that is normal for eighty percent of the population, but instead be flexible and adapt. Dare I suggest "accept" that hot water will not always be available and (gasp) re-condition your brain into thinking that this does not preclude having a good time. Be pleasantly surprised when you do get the hot water that appears to be so important to you and others.

With or without your permission, the board will Keep On Keepin' On. Try not to get electrocuted by a shower head and you should do fine. Jajaja.I had just thanked you for your part in the discussion, then you retort with condescending remarks but anyhoo. Since your the most prolific poster to this forum I guess you know best. I guess I'll move on from this forum.

Osteoknot
08-23-22, 02:15
I had just thanked you for your part in the discussion, then you retort with condescending remarks but anyhoo. Since your the most prolific poster to this forum I guess you know best. I guess I'll move on from this forum.Takes somewhat of a veneer to function around here, tough crowd. In my own way, I thought I was showing you some respect because a lot of the mongerers here are not worth engaging, for me.

I think you're right, I have been posting too much. I know, I know, you didn't say that. Clearly I am compensating for being away from my beloved Medellin for coming up on three weeks, with all this posting. Very tough for me. I need to take a break from here and try thinking about some other things, for a change.

Don't leave the forum on my account. You are truly less horrible than most, jajajaja. That's the nicest thing my last boss, President and CEO of a multi-billion dollar company, to whom I was a direct report, ever said to me during my annual evals. "You are less horrible than you were last year" jajajaja. I retired in 2019 the same year I discovered Medellin.

Would it help you to know that I am a self-proclaimed, sarcastic, attention who-ring asshole here?

Keep on Keepin' On!

Surfer500
08-23-22, 02:26
This can be misleading. There is a small actual park, with trees and paths, and it is about 1/2 a square block. Pretty small really. Then there is the area around it with bars, restaurants, nightclubs, etc. The small actual park has almost nothing to do with the other activities in the area, which is also referred to as Parque Lleras, about 8 or 10 square blocks equivalent. As far as I know nothing is going on that affects the nightclubs, bars, restaurants, etc. Other than post covid shut downs of some places that have gone out of business, etc. So the reconstruction is not really relevant to what we talk about here. The actual physical park was never much of a part of anything, other than a bit of green space in an entertainment area.Construction of the Park has been delayed several months due to the excessive rains and saturated sub-surface conditions precluding the installation of the new sub-surface drainage systems. The area around it hasn't fully recovered not even close to pre-pandemic times and I'm not sure it will ever be like before compared to the Provenza area.

What I do think will happen though is that Parque Lleras will become a much larger mongering venue when the Park construction is complete. The Park used to be a magnet for the business's around it, but with it being under construction, many places around it have been shuttered since the onset of the Pandemic.

However, more and more Centro girls are working the streets around the area now it seems, at least what I have seen, meaning seeing daytime Centro girls working nights in Lleras which has been reported here.

Many years ago Minorista was a fun mongering venue, but nothing like before, not even close. And Centro since the Pandemic has gone in the opposite direction getting better and better to a certain degree.

Mongering venues do change for the better and the worse over time, as everyone knows, and my prediction is that Lleras is going to become a much bigger mongering venue after Construction is complete.

I don't have a crystal ball, but this is my prediction.

Osteoknot
08-23-22, 02:41
It's one thing to have hot water, but imagine having it, and not knowing how to use it meaning adjusting the temperature.

What threw her for a curve was that there were two water valves, one hot and one cold, which she was not accustomed to.
.Plus, not knowing what buttons to press on the elevator, definitely can't work the room thermostat, what a curtain rod is for, unable to make simple change, how to order food in a sit-down restaurant, unable to tell time unless it's a digital watch, and yet, super-users when it comes to cell phones. Go figure.

BTW, I am not saying these chicas were dumb, most of them were average or above average intelligence. Products of their environment. When I asked one chica about doing simple math she said that's why there are caclulators. About not being able to tell time she pointed out the she owned a digital watch. Who is really smarter in this tale?

Litmus Smut
08-23-22, 04:16
Thanks for the feedback. That was pretty much what I was looking, even at the knowing that someone would say "the park is overrated".

To that point, I think we can all agree on this old adage: there is no wrong way to monger. Of the dozen or so options, the park is just another one of them.

I like the park just like I like strolling South Beach, Miami: the ambiance of girls in booty shorts or tight clothing. And in PLl, you can stroll with 4000 COP beers. And I do like strolling with an open beer. Compound that with the center of the park was lesser traveled, by stepping away from the street by 20 feet, you could take a break from all meat parade, sit and recoup for a minute, and get right back in it in 2 seconds.

In my opinion, the park is just another gem in the treasure box of Medellin and one I look forward to seeing at higher heights when it reopens. Maybe to those who have "been there, done that" the place is boring or overpriced, but to my friends who have not, they still think I am talking crazy about some fantasy land.


Construction of the Park has been delayed several months due to the excessive rains and saturated sub-surface conditions precluding the installation of the new sub-surface drainage systems. The area around it hasn't fully recovered not even close to pre-pandemic times and I'm not sure it will ever be like before compared to the Provenza area.

What I do think will happen though is that Parque Lleras will become a much larger mongering venue when the Park construction is complete. The Park used to be a magnet for the business's around it, but with it being under construction, many places around it have been shuttered since the onset of the Pandemic.

However, more and more Centro girls are working the streets around the area now it seems, at least what I have seen, meaning seeing daytime Centro girls working nights in Lleras which has been reported here.

Many years ago Minorista was a fun mongering venue, but nothing like before, not even close. And Centro since the Pandemic has gone in the opposite direction getting better and better to a certain degree.

Mongering venues do change for the better and the worse over time, as everyone knows, and my prediction is that Lleras is going to become a much bigger mongering venue after Construction is complete.

I don't have a crystal ball, but this is my prediction.

Mr Enternational
08-23-22, 04:41
It's one thing to have hot water, but imagine having it, and not knowing how to use it meaning adjusting the temperature.

What threw her for a curve was that there were two water valves, one hot and one cold, which she was not accustomed to..Like the brother in the Cartagena thread always taking cold showers because he thought the see meant cold so he never turned that one. One day he finally tried it and realized see was for Caliente. Usually there is an F on the other for Frio.

Osteoknot
08-23-22, 07:21
Those of you who follow me will recognize some of these.

The first foto, the sisters in Cucuta. That was before I had a beard and was not dyeing my mustache and my hair was still short. That was the escapade when I had to jump out of a second story balcony to get away from their posse that was coming up the front stairs. Since no one was hurt, worth it. The sister on the left of the foto had one of the prettiest faces I ever saw and her sister was insanely jealous. I spent 3 days and 2 nights with them. One of the craziest weekends I ever had in Colombia. Both were Web cam models and that's how I met them, online.

Second foto, first time my Number Two chica Scarlet just happened to overlap with my Number Six chica who was seven months pregnant at the time. Solid session but we never repeated, sometimes it goes like that.

A lot of guys will remember this four-way foto of these chica lined up in doggy. Only the middle girl was ever on my List. We had fun for weeks before it finally broke up like they all do in the end. Fantastic sex and the chicas were good friends, at one point all living together in Castilla. The session shown I took my hotel desk chair that had wheels and rolled back and forth on them first seated, licking their pussies and assholes. Then kneeling and fucking them. The one on the left moved to Mexico with a guy, I still see the other two regularly.

The next three fotos stretches the definition of a "three-way" a little. I was taking my Number Two and my Number Three chicas on the Metro to the dentist at Mayorca Mall. Once there, I made them both give me a blow job in the handicapped bathroom. They did not hesistate for a second but they both called me crazy, separately.

The next foto, the red one, if someone is keeping historical archive fotos you might want to add this one. This is the room and the party where I discoverd bombillos, jajajajaja, that have since seem to have caught on a bit in the mongering scene. Started here. There was a fourth girl in the room, making this a five-way. You can see her leg in the right, lower corner.

The eighth foto is my twin-sister cheat. In reality they are one year apart but if you met them in person and I told you they were twins you would believe me. I was banging the younger one for as long as I have been coming to Medellin and then one day out of nowhere she blurts out she has an older sister who needs some training. She shows me a pic on her phone and I say, "That's you". I was her sister's first P4P and the second guy she ever had sex with and she was a wild cat in bed. The sister did a couple of natural moves on me that I have never seen before or since. Vennies. I saw the sister twice, then I must've given her some confidence because she went out and got herself a boyfriend.

The next to last foto is the same four-way with the girls lined up in doggy. I wrote they were good friends and I believe their affection and comfort level with each other shows thru in this pic. I will never forget those sessions. For me, it's all about how much love can we fill the room, most of the time.

End with a fun foto. Those are the same two chicas who I mentioned in the previous post would do lesbian Web camming. Funny thing, they weren't really lesbians. They cheated on the kisses and the oral for the camera, but would go all out for me as a favor. Talk about some sweet holes.

I hope you enjoyed my review of having sex in Medellin with more than one chica at a time.

Huacho
08-23-22, 16:23
Like the brother in the Cartagena thread always taking cold showers because he thought the see meant cold so he never turned that one. One day he finally tried it and realized see was for Caliente. Usually there is an F on the other for Frio.Man, I know several people who did that same thing, either in LatAm or in French speaking countries. My question is always, 'WTF did you think the F meant?

Balboa
08-23-22, 16:27
Many years ago Minorista was a fun mongering venue, but nothing like before, not even close. And Centro since the Pandemic has gone in the opposite direction getting better and better to a certain degree.

Mongering venues do change for the better and the worse over time, as everyone knows, and my prediction is that Lleras is going to become a much bigger mongering venue after Construction is complete.

I don't have a crystal ball, but this is my prediction.True, mongering venues definitely change over time.

Did you mean the Mayorista, rather than Minorista that was a fun mongering venue?

Used to be great! (Mayorista).

Surfer500
08-23-22, 16:41
True, mongering venues definitely change over time.

Did you mean the Mayorista, rather than Minorista that was a fun mongering venue?

Used to be great! (Mayorista).Yes Mayorista, it was a long time ago, over a decade ago. The majority of the board members here have no idea what were referring to. That was an era when gringo's where few and far between. A whole different world in a sense back then.

Knowledge
08-23-22, 19:25
Less is often more.


I had just thanked you for your part in the discussion, then you retort with condescending remarks but anyhoo. Since your the most prolific poster to this forum I guess you know best. I guess I'll move on from this forum.

Osteoknot
08-24-22, 00:46
There is no wrong way to monger. Of the dozen or so options, the park is just another one of them.

just another gem in the treasure box of MedellinAgree. The Park is not my style but I don't think one ounce less of anyone who likes it, loves it, wants to go there, hangs out there, makes it their primary destination, etc.

Medellin is all about options. So many different venues. Medellin is magical. Fuck, I got to stop thinking about it.

Literally in the couple of days before I left, I dropped a nice chunk of change on Catgirl's and my two casa builds and it turns out at least half the materials were not deliverable due to shortages, disruptions in supply chains, whatever you want to call it, same shit going on here in the US of A, too. I trust Catgirl to sort it out, thank goodness, or I might actually lose a few minutes sleep over it.

Also, started working on my visa options today. I haven't seen anyone talking about it here but the biggest revamp of the visa regulations in years, goes into effect October 21. I tried to read them but everything was in Spanish.

The "buzz" is all about the new "digital nomad" visa. I don't plan on going for it, but at first blush, it almost seems like if you started your own Web site about Medellin or Colombia with the right cultural interest and focus, and could pay yourself the minimum income requirement, you could get a "digital nomad" visa. BTW, I have no idea what I am talking about, jajajaja but maybe I will start my own Web site.

However, I get the impression that the Cultural Ministry of Colombia or whatever it's called is not looking to promote mongering, jajajaja.

Balboa
08-24-22, 00:54
Yes Mayorista, it was a long time ago, over a decade ago. The majority of the board members here have no idea what were referring to. That was an era when gringo's where few and far between. A whole different world in a sense back then.Of course! I remember it very well.

I've been by there recently and it's a shell of its former glory.

Things change. For better or worse, they do change.

Bwenz
08-24-22, 00:55
So I impulse bought a plane ticket to Bogota and then Medellin before even researching anything. I've spent the last couple days researching and booking hotels and so far my Medellin stay is covered with Hotel Dix in El Poblado and hotel Quinta Avenida in Laureles.

I have a few questions that I would appreciate if could be answered as there is so much info on many different websites and its becoming overwhelming plus not knowing if the information is up to date.

I have downloaded the Medellin map and there are a lot of locations in El Centro to ignore. Is it safe to walk down El Centro streets during the day going to all these locations without much issues with safety as long as I am careful or should I be taking a uber to these locations?

Are all the other locations outside of El Centro safe during the day? If you guys have recommendations of good value for money / great locations I would appreciate it.

I have seen a few independent escort advertising sites with good prices and I was wondering if people have had good experiences with these sites and also if staying at a love motel would they be required to give ID upon arrival to lower the chance of being drugged? I would be more inclined to try the site if the love motels require ID for the lady before entering the property after I check in.

There is also a decent amount of escorts advertising incall in the popular safe areas and I am wondering if incalls are risky or safe in general in these safe areas?

I speak 0 Spanish and I know that doesn't work in my favor but I also know that women will have a negotiation when they are denied on their price and I'm assuming that I will be taken advantage of. Is the Medellin map prices still valid in 2022?

That's all I can think of at the moment but I value any opinions.

Oterri
08-24-22, 01:56
You are master of the fucking universe LOL.

Thanks a lot for the tips and one hell of a very useful reply.


My casa numbers are relatively low, however, and you may need further opinion from someone else.

If there's one thing true about casas that has been said over and over is that virtually anything can be found or had for a price. If you are willing to plunk down the pesos, you will get anything you want, assuming the legality of your kink. A good place to start is the madam. In fact, if I have something specific in mind, I will sometimes skip the line-up and go directly to the madam with questions like, "Who gives the best blowjobs? Who loves to take it up the ass? Who can deep throat and not come up for air"?.

NuKamdev
08-24-22, 02:04
Just wanted to say thank you. Your map is precise and usable information.


https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=1UxdkQ9-vm36hqZmjE87YQcheNFdWBiKd&ll=6.20997581540802%2C-75.53233875&z=13

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists

Surfer500
08-24-22, 02:31
A

The "buzz" is all about the new "digital nomad" visa. I don't plan on going for it, but at first blush, it almost seems like if you started your own Web site about Medellin or Colombia with the right cultural interest and focus, and could pay yourself the minimum income requirement, you could get a "digital nomad" visa. BTW, I have no idea what I am talking about, jajajaja but maybe I will start my own Web site.

However, I get the impression that the Cultural Ministry of Colombia or whatever it's called is not looking to promote mongering, jajajaja.Probably the biggest change is with the Pensioners Visa. I know two guys that got them this year and they were only issued for a year versus three years under the new regulations. Also, regardless of the Visa you obtain, you must have Colombian Health Insurance, and that's a whole topic in itself.

And there is no longer a way someone can show up with approximately 250,000 $ USD, invest the money in a business or property, and within six months be a Colombian resident. Residency now requires being in Country five years before you can even apply for residency.

In your case, perhaps they will issue you a special "Mongering Visa."

DontSayMuch
08-24-22, 02:48
I think I failed at my Facebook attempts for my week vacation. I added women who had devil horns and hearts and stuff and even added names that were given from nice board members, but out of the 94 Friends I have only two messaged me back and both wanted in excess of 600 mil. I'm not the most attractive 50 year old, but I'm average. I think I'm going to stick to the casas mentioned here and maybe go on the websites too. Maybe next trip I'll change my Facebook approach but I think it's too late to fix now.

What I wrote was something like this:

Hola #NAME,

Estare en Medellin el sabado por una semana. Me gustaria verte.

If this type of message is in poor form please let me know.

Thanks,

DSM.

Pinnacle1966
08-24-22, 03:05
Those of you who follow me will recognize some of these.

The first foto, the sisters in Cucuta. That was before I had a beard and was not dyeing my mustache and my hair was still short. That was the escapade when I had to jump out of a second story balcony to get away from their posse that was coming up the front stairs. Since no one was hurt, worth it. The sister on the left of the foto had one of the prettiest faces I ever saw and her sister was insanely jealous. I spent 3 days and 2 nights with them. One of the craziest weekends I ever had in Colombia. Both were Web cam models and that's how I met them, online.

Second foto, first time my Number Two chica Scarlet just happened to overlap with my Number Six chica who was seven months pregnant at the time. Solid session but we never repeated, sometimes it goes like that.

A lot of guys will remember this four-way foto of these chica lined up in doggy. Only the middle girl was ever on my List. We had fun for weeks before it finally broke up like they all do in the end. Fantastic sex and the chicas were good friends, at one point all living together in Castilla. The session shown I took my hotel desk chair that had wheels and rolled back and forth on them first seated, licking their pussies and assholes. Then kneeling and fucking them. The one on the left moved to Mexico with a guy, I still see the other two regularly.

The next three fotos stretches the definition of a "three-way" a little. I was taking my Number Two and my Number Three chicas on the Metro to the dentist at Mayorca Mall. Once there, I made them both give me a blow job in the handicapped bathroom. They did not hesistate for a second but they both called me crazy, separately.

The next foto, the red one, if someone is keeping historical archive fotos you might want to add this one. This is the room and the party where I discoverd bombillos, jajajajaja, that have since seem to have caught on a bit in the mongering scene. Started here. There was a fourth girl in the room, making this a five-way. You can see her leg in the right, lower corner..Man those are some of the finest 5's in all of Medellin. Dude, I love your reports but damn, those girls are so average. I only been going to Medellin since 15 but damn I know how to find some fine hoes. Let me know if I can help you.

Osteoknot
08-24-22, 03:22
So I impulse bought a plane ticket to Bogota and then Medellin before even researching anything. I am sure someone will give you shit for your "damn the torpedoes" approach but I like it.

Yeah, you can walk around where you want in El Centro during the day, with a modicum of common sense and street smarts.

AdamWl
08-24-22, 03:23
Interesting that she asked to be paid after showering versus before taking her clothes off.

I typically tell new ones that I always pay afterwards before taking them upstairs.

Another option if they ask for the money upfront, not that all of $ 10 USD is going to break you, is tell them you will pay 1/2 upfront and the other half afterwards.

Another thing I sometimes tell new ones is that if the service is good there will be a tip, and to some that is music to their ears as the locals don't tip much if at all.

Regardless, it's always a red flag when a Chica asks to be paid up front, and your lucky that she didn't just lay there dead as that is typically the outcome.Good advice, thanks. I'll be sure to start mentioning possible propina, I incorrectly assumed they know it's always on the table.


pay 1/2 upfront and the other half afterwards.Yes, that's exactly what I did once. The girl insisted on upfront, I didn't budge, but since she appeared more afraid I won't pay rather than playing me, we compromised on half / half.

The session was 'meh'. She wasn't very engaged just going through the motions and super serious or even stressed most of the time. Awesome tits though (that was the selling point for me). Looked borderline freakish on her otherwise very thin body with narrow hips (too narrow for my tastes).

She made somewhat strange, quiet, mousy 'iiih' sound every time I nailed her deep. I guess her attempt to be sexy. We also got into the argument about light. She wanted to do it in almost complete darkness.
Then she didn't want to get on top (I didn't understand her Spanish to know why). And when she was in the shower she also made sure the doors are closed and maybe even locked (first chica I sessioned with that ever did that).

She must be a bit new I think and just seemed fearful. I've only seen her once working el Centro since then, on Saturday, looking a bit paranoid and startled.

Also, after I came from the shower she said I should bring my things with me and that she could've robbed me but isn't one of those girls. She wasn't aware that I kept my things in the corner of my eye at all times during the shower (but thanks for not trying to rob me anyway! ).

ColombiaLover
08-24-22, 03:47
Those were the day. Back 15 years ago and more, the Mansion had no night life, so you had to find your own. Mayorista was fun. Have a few years, get something local to eat and walk back and forth looking at all of the girls who were lined up against the buildings or in the small bars and restaurants. Pick what you wanted for dirt cheap and go to one of about 3-4 love motels right there. There were some gems back in those days. But that was also the wild west. I can remember two guys from the Mansion standing on the street curb (while I was looking for chicas) snorting coke off some homeless guy's cardboard box. Who knows what was in that coke. I can still remember one spinner with a bubble butt who I had a few times. Miss her.


Yes Mayorista, it was a long time ago, over a decade ago. The majority of the board members here have no idea what were referring to. That was an era when gringo's where few and far between. A whole different world in a sense back then.

Tasss
08-24-22, 04:44
Girl (or guy) is using stolen pictures of a Russian. Has what looks like Dubai in the bg of one of the pics, as well as Russian sign in the bg of another.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100047094101395

She doesn't look like any Colombiana for starters, not even one of the whiter ones. Normally I'd just ignore this but she managed to connect to 4.5 k people, including a vast number of monger profiles and real FB chicas.

Profile pic attached in case she changes her profile name.

L00PY
08-24-22, 07:16
I have downloaded the Medellin map and there are a lot of locations in El Centro to ignore. Is it safe to walk down El Centro streets during the day going to all these locations without much issues with safety as long as I am careful or should I be taking a uber to these locations?

Are all the other locations outside of El Centro safe during the day? If you guys have recommendations of good value for money / great locations I would appreciate it.This depends a lot on your street smarts and what you're comfortable with. There is lots of homelessness, poverty, and open drug use in the area. If you've seen that in your hometown and are okay navigating that, you should be okay in El Centro too. That said, not speaking any of the language puts you at a huge disadvantage. There are tourists and plenty of police in El Centro during daytime hours. Parts are very safe but the fringes can get iffy.

I felt fine during the day walking about and visiting the casas in the area. I was fine after dark too but it did get deserted in some areas. My experience has been that Colombians and those in Medellin are not terribly aggressive and generally pretty nice. Map prices are probably pretty close, likely within 10 k.

There's always a risk of something going south no matter where you are. I'd say the casas are probably one of the safest routes to go, especially with no Spanish. I'd suggest trying to learn some basic phrases and getting familiar with a translation app.

Surfer500
08-24-22, 17:16
Man those are some of the finest 5's in all of Medellin. Dude, I love your reports but damn, those girls are so average. I only been going to Medellin since 15 but damn I know how to find some fine hoes. Let me know if I can help you.He doesn't need any help finding finer hoe's meaning something above a 5.

If he wanted them, he would have them.

In fact, I would venture to say that his "crew", albeit not beauty queens, are providing much better service than a lot of the "finer hoes" whom know they are very attractive, and can get away with providing shitty service, where as their uglier sisters cannot if that makes sense.

For some guys here it's all about how pretty the girls are, and there's nothing wrong with that, as everybody rolls differently.

Osteoknot
08-24-22, 17:33
I added women who had devil horns
Like this? Jeje.

Osteoknot
08-24-22, 17:43
Probably the biggest change is with the Pensioners Visa. I know two guys that got them this year and they were only issued for a year versus three years under the new regulations. Also, regardless of the Visa you obtain, you must have Colombian Health Insurance, and that's a whole topic in itself.

And there is no longer a way someone can show up with approximately 250,000 $ USD, invest the money in a business or property, and within six months be a Colombian resident. Residency now requires being in Country five years before you can even apply for residency.

In your case, perhaps they will issue you a special "Mongering Visa."Since I was under the impression that the new visa regs supposedly don't go into effect until late October. As with many things Colombian, what they say, what they write down, and what the do, can be three different things depending on the day of the week and where you are in the country, so I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

Mtndew704
08-24-22, 19:22
Man those are some of the finest 5's in all of Medellin. Dude, I love your reports but damn, those girls are so average. I only been going to Medellin since 15 but damn I know how to find some fine hoes. Let me know if I can help you.Stop the cap, let me see these diamonds you pulling.

Osteoknot
08-24-22, 20:03
He doesn't need any help finding finer hoe's meaning something above a 5.

If he wanted them, he would have them.

In fact, I would venture to say that his "crew", albeit not beauty queens, are providing much better service than a lot of the "finer hoes" whom know they are very attractive, and can get away with providing shitty service, where as their uglier sisters cannot if that makes sense.

For some guys here it's all about how pretty the girls are, and there's nothing wrong with that, as everybody rolls differently.Probably my mostly good-natured response to him will be up by the time you and anyone else reads this.

I must be wearing rose-colored glasses. Love will do that to you. My chicas look gorgeous to me, jaajajaja and even more, they excite me sexually. Plus, I usually don't post with the intent of "look how beautiful my chica is". Sometimes I will talk about slapping some make-up, jewelry and fancy clothes on a chica to make her appear more like the Park Lleras type, but in general I don't think like that.

I also pay no-nevermind to the supposed correlation between looks and service. Personally, I think it's a myth with a zero coefficient, but I am not interested in debating that point. I treat all chicas the same, which includes respect.

My former training and profession as an artist means I can objectively assess "beauty" better than the average bear. Sometimes I look up from licking pussy or at the girl sleeping next to me and think, "Wow, she's really beautiful", from an aesthetic sense, not emotionally. Other times, not as pretty, for sure but the thought is generally not on my mind.

By not having specfic physical requirements for a chica, not only am I happier and easier to please, I find myself with a surprisingly high number of what most guys would call "nines or tens". I can't fully explain that beyond my own biased, empirical observation, but I can tell you one way for sure to pay more and get shittier service is to treat some girls like they are better than others, solely based on looks. Most guys never reach that point.

Well, there was that time I licked She-Hulk's poop chute in MDE. Jajajajaja, remember her? I licked her ass at her girlfriend's request, she delivered the Hulk to me. I feel a little bad writing that because she was a genuinely nice Hulk, and childhood friend of her beautiful counterpart.

Would do it all again without hesitation. The unplanned payoff was the gorgeous girlfriend (if you like the fashion model type, I'll look for a couple of fotos) started showing up for free booty calls at my hotel after that for quite a while, until she got bored, again. Jajajajajaaaaaaaaaajajaja.

Like I said, I take no offense if guys' opinions about beauty and attractiveness are different than mine, that's what makes horses race. The motives for posting about it are a bit questionable, but no big deal. Same ol' chestnut 'round here, mostly due to the poster's need for self-validation and projection. But I will tell you, I get more than a few PM requests for contact info for a variety of girls who fotos I posted, even though I have repeatedly said I don't provide that info. Go figure. Shows to go you, one man's beauty is another guy's dud!

All five fotos of same chica I mentioned above. Very attractive, I would have to give her an 8. 7757552. She used to visit me for free, middle of the night (booty calls) so I would lick her ass, and other fun. Obviously, if you don't your chicas built like a Manhattan runway model with a cute face, not to mention a clam-shell pussy like a Vise-Grip, then she is not your type, jajajajajaaaa. Or she could be your cream dream. Waste of time to try and get other guys to see it your way, and there is a lot of that going on here.

MiamiBoy1
08-24-22, 21:47
He doesn't need any help finding finer hoe's meaning something above a 5.

If he wanted them, he would have them.

In fact, I would venture to say that his "crew", albeit not beauty queens, are providing much better service than a lot of the "finer hoes" whom know they are very attractive, and can get away with providing shitty service, where as their uglier sisters cannot if that makes sense.

For some guys here it's all about how pretty the girls are, and there's nothing wrong with that, as everybody rolls differently.What you are saying is that attractive girls = shitty service. This is not always the case. Ugly girls can provide shitty service as well. Service has nothing to do with how a girl looks. Service depends on various factors. Her attitude, vibes, chemistry between you and her, ambiance of the place / venue, etc. Guys who say hot girls provide shitty service just don't know any better, they don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc) to score a hottie, and not only to score, but to make her like or love them, because great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection. Something that money alone can't always buy.

Round the World
08-24-22, 22:27
Maybe its different for Pensionado visa renewals. The Pensionado-Rentista renewal I got this summer is good for 2 years.

I assume it was only 2 years because after that, one should be eligible for the Resident instead of Migrant class of visa. Five years of M gets you an R. Five years of R and you become eligible for citizenship and a passport.

But I know other changes are coming into effect in Oct regarding property purchase visas. Currently if you spend above $150k you can get an R. After October you can only get an M. So its not a bad idea to buy property now and get the visa and a great exchange rate.



Probably the biggest change is with the Pensioners Visa. I know two guys that got them this year and they were only issued for a year versus three years under the new regulations. Also, regardless of the Visa you obtain, you must have Colombian Health Insurance, and that's a whole topic in itself.

And there is no longer a way someone can show up with approximately 250,000 $ USD, invest the money in a business or property, and within six months be a Colombian resident. Residency now requires being in Country five years before you can even apply for residency.

In your case, perhaps they will issue you a special "Mongering Visa."

Villainy
08-24-22, 22:59
.... but to make her like or love them, because great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection...........Seriously?? You believe that??

BootyBandit84
08-24-22, 23:56
I think I failed at my Facebook attempts for my week vacation. I added women who had devil horns and hearts and stuff and even added names that were given from nice board members, but out of the 94 Friends I have only two messaged me back and both wanted in excess of 600 mil. I'm not the most attractive 50 year old, but I'm average. I think I'm going to stick to the casas mentioned here and maybe go on the websites too. Maybe next trip I'll change my Facebook approach but I think it's too late to fix now.

What I wrote was something like this:

Hola #NAME,

Estare en Medellin el sabado por una semana. Me gustaria verte.

If this type of message is in poor form please let me know.

Thanks,

DSM.This is very wierd. I send a message very similar to this when contacting a new FB girl. I have been getting higher quotes lately but nothing close to 600 k. Unless that's for an overnight with a supermodel level girl that's crazy money for a single visit in Medellin. Unless inflation has gone insane in the last two months since my last visit haha. But don't give up buddy. Its a pain in the ass to start but once you get going FB is an amazing tool for getting hot chicks in Medellin. Just keep trying and it will get better.

Osteoknot
08-25-22, 00:18
What you are saying is that attractive girls = shitty service. This is not always the case. Ugly girls can provide shitty service as well. Service has nothing to do with how a girl looks. Service depends on various factors. Her attitude, vibes, chemistry between you and her, ambiance of the place / venue, etc. Guys who say hot girls provide shitty service just don't know any better, they don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc) to score a hottie, and not only to score, but to make her like or love them, because great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection. Something that money alone can't always buy.I happen to believe looks and performance have a correlation coefficient of zero. That means it's completely random but a lot of mongerers personalize, project, and are understandably biased about such experiences. Sometimes one or two experiences stand out postively or negatively so far away from the mean for them that it biases them for life.

I possibly don't agree that it always takes "game, looks, money, etc" to score a hottie, but the example you were using was guys who complain about shitty service with hotties, and that may be a subpopulation for which that is true, so perhaps you and I are in agreement there, also.

I just submitted a post where I wrote about treating all girls the same regardless of their perceived level of attractiveness. I am a firm believer in this. I've had more than one gorgeous hottie submit to my desires because I did not treat her like she was special. I treated her with respect and no different than I would anyone else and she and others like her pick up on that. In fact, I believe in treating everyone the same as much as possible.

Albert Einstein who is one of my personal heroes not because of his scientific genius but because of his philosophy on life put it like this, "I speak to everyone the same way, whether he is the garbage man or the president of the university". I also like the Rudyard Kipling quote which is more about the constancy inside you, ""If you can walk with the crowd and keep your virtue, or walk with Kings and not lose the common touch" . . . As being a desirable state.

Fotos: The first two fotos was of a Top Twenty most beautiful chica I ever banged, and then without warning she started making milk. She wasn't polished or educated. I found her on the street. But she was as beautiful, sweet and sexy as they come.

And then, to prove my love for you guys, I searched for twenty minutes and found the 3 fotos of She-Hulk! One new foto never shown before Jaajajajajajajajjajaajajajaajjaajajajaaaaajajajajajaja. See previous post for what eating out her ass got me. Disgusting in the short term, worth it in the long run. That's her friend in the background and my reward for at least a few weeks of repeated free sex for spending less than ten minutes in the butt crack of She Hulk. I know MiamiToy, nothing in the known universe could get you to do what I did and there's a lot of mongerers who would agree with you. That's what makes horse races, jajajja! Actually, Hulk doesn't look so bad in the foreground in the last foto, jaja.

Tasss
08-25-22, 01:43
This is very wierd. I send a message very similar to this when contacting a new FB girl. I have been getting higher quotes lately but nothing close to 600 k. Unless that's for an overnight with a supermodel level girl that's crazy money for a single visit in Medellin. Unless inflation has gone insane in the last two months since my last visit haha. But don't give up buddy. Its a pain in the ass to start but once you get going FB is an amazing tool for getting hot chicks in Medellin. Just keep trying and it will get better.How much are they quoting now? A price update would be very helpful now. I think all the girls know about USD-COP exchange rate increases.

MiamiBoy1
08-25-22, 02:51
Seriously?? You believe that??Not only I believe that, I practice that!

Villainy
08-25-22, 03:15
I think I failed at my Facebook attempts for my week vacation. I added women who had devil horns and hearts and stuff and even added names that were given from nice board members, but out of the 94 Friends I have only two messaged me back and both wanted in excess of 600 mil. I'm not the most attractive 50 year old, but I'm average. I think I'm going to stick to the casas mentioned here and maybe go on the websites too. Maybe next trip I'll change my Facebook approach but I think it's too late to fix now.

What I wrote was something like this:

Hola #NAME,.I wouldn't say your message is in poor form but I think you're shooting yourself in the dick a little bit. Why tell them you're visiting for a week? That tells them you're a tourist and you probably don't know the scene and so they start out asking for the triple rate. Afterall maybe you don't know what the fair market value is and you'll grab her offer out of hand.

I usually use a greeting like:

Hola Maria (substitute her name), mucho gusto. Me estoy quedando en un hotel bonito en Laureles (or Poblado or where ever you are staying). A veces estoy aburrido why me gustaria la compania de una mujer hermosa como tu. Podriamos planear una cita traviesa? Gracias.

Tienes WhatsApp? Mi numero es: +1 xxx yyy zzzz.

The last line is only needed if you want to switch your conversation to WhatsApp and so, it could be skipped.

If I didn't f* up my Spanish. It would loosely translate as follows:

Hello Maria, it's a pleasure to meet you. I am staying in a nice hotel in Laureles. Sometimes I am bored and I would like the company of a beautiful woman like you. Could we plan a naughty meeting? Thanks.

Do you have WhatsApp? My number is: +1 (xxx) yyy-zzzz.

That way she doesn't know if you are a visitor or a resident or what. I usually say I've been living in Medellin for 3 years but I don't think you need to say that. I usually get a response saying something like: Yes, when would you like to plan a visit. I don't usually initiate a discussion about pricing but I always plan on paying the FB girl 200 + taxis. Some will bring up the price, most of the girls I talk to don't. Some guys think it is better to bring it up to preclude any kind of misunderstanding. Your choice.

If you have some special kinks you want, that would involve another couple of sentences.

Deberia dicirte sobre mis preferencias.

I should tell you about my preferences. They will almost always say. Dime (tell me).

DontSayMuch
08-25-22, 03:20
This is very wierd. I send a message very similar to this when contacting a new FB girl. I have been getting higher quotes lately but nothing close to 600 k. Unless that's for an overnight with a supermodel level girl that's crazy money for a single visit in Medellin. Unless inflation has gone insane in the last two months since my last visit haha. But don't give up buddy. Its a pain in the ass to start but once you get going FB is an amazing tool for getting hot chicks in Medellin. Just keep trying and it will get better.I appreciate the feedback. I'll keep going for it and maybe my next MDE trip will bear more fruit. (I put a smiley face at the end but I guess the forum hates that, LOL).

Villainy
08-25-22, 03:48
.....but to make her like or love them, because great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection.


Not only I believe that, I practice that!Working girls are likely to fall in love (or like) with your wallet and not so much with you. Sorry if that doesn't make you feel special but it is reality. As to whether you have great sex, it depends a lot on the girl. Does she really love sex or is she just trying to feed her family? Can you speak to her in Spanish and not make her feel like a puta? Or are you boring her senseless with your translator app? Are you clean and well trimmed (both heads) and hygienic? That will make a difference to her.

None of this will make her love you but it will keep her from trying to make your date the shortest time possible so she can get her money and get out of your room. Now, if you are saying you need to feel love or a special connection to have great sex. Well that is on you and has next to nothing to do with the girl.

So I'll leave you to ponder this: I've had great, mind bending sex with several girls here in Medellin (and by no means am I saying all of them. Or even the majority of them). None of them were in love with me and I certainly wasn't in love with them. I look more like a bald Walter Matthau than Brad Pitt, and I'm hardly rich, although that is a somewhat relative comparison. So for those reasons I dispute your pretense.

Shemp
08-25-22, 06:17
Girl (or guy) is using stolen pictures of a Russian. Has what looks like Dubai in the bg of one of the pics, as well as Russian sign in the bg of another.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100047094101395

She doesn't look like any Colombiana for starters, not even one of the whiter ones. Normally I'd just ignore this but she managed to connect to 4.5 k people, including a vast number of monger profiles and real FB chicas.

Profile pic attached in case she changes her profile name.Yeah, she sent me a friend request & I accepted. After some chit-chat I proposed she come to visit me at my hotel. Well, she told me she does not have a cedula but if I sent her some money to buy one then she would come visit me. I told her that would be impossible so we never spoke again. Another fleece-them artist.

Nounce
08-25-22, 11:20
What you are saying is that attractive girls = shitty service...Sufer is talking about prostitutes and you generalize it to girls.


... they don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc) to score a hottie, and not only to score, but to make her like or love them....Would you get great connection by offering 30 mil to the girls you personally met?

There is also a skill difference which can make a difference in service quality.

Surfer500
08-25-22, 12:16
Maybe its different for Pensionado visa renewals. The Pensionado-Rentista renewal I got this summer is good for 2 years.Yes for renewals they have been issuing them for a period greater than one year, however for the two guys I know who applied for the first time this year it's only been for a year, which supposedly will change in October.

As far as becoming a Citizen after five years of being a resident, well it requires you pass some type of tests, I think language and history, no different than becoming a US Citizen, however I think if your older than 65 they waive the testing requirement.

Regardless, they've made the Country less friendly for business investments getting rid of the investors Visa in October, and with the new President, new tax schemes will be going into place.

A few years ago they had a Wealth Tax based on worldwide income in place that expired, and Petro is coming up with a new scheme.

Mr Enternational
08-25-22, 14:31
great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection. Something that money alone can't always buy.I have had plenty of great sex with chicks that I have just walked up to and said how much. I am not trying to jedi any prostitutes into connecting with me. There are plenty of chicks that are not prostitutes to get a great connection with. And guess what. I have had horrible sex with chicks that I have had a great connection with and great sex with chicks there was no connection at all with. The same as looks have nothing to do with service, the connection has nothing to do with great sex.

Besides, I am still looking for someone to define what great sex is. Surely not everyone has the same definition or rather same experience of what great sex is. The same as everybody not having the same idea of what a great hot dog is. Connecting with someone will not make them clairvoyant and know he loves getting his balls licked from the back or he hates getting his balls licked from the back. It is by pure chance that people are having this idea of great sex together.

Fun Luvr
08-25-22, 15:39
Hello Maria, it's a pleasure to meet you. I am staying in a nice hotel in Laureles. Sometimes I am bored and I would like the company of a beautiful woman like you. Could we plan a naughty meeting? Thanks.
I would leave out "Sometimes I am bored and". To me, that is saying you're only considering her because you are bored.

JustTK
08-25-22, 17:50
This is very wierd. I send a message very similar to this when contacting a new FB girl.Did you guys find a message template in the MS Word library or smthg?

ILikeButts
08-25-22, 18:25
great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection.100% disagree with this statement. Some of the best sex I've had was with girls I barely knew or had just met but something about them made me desire them deeply. I know this is probably a minority opinion, even here on a monger forum, LOL.

JustTK
08-25-22, 18:26
What you are saying is that attractive girls = shitty service. This is not always the case. Ugly girls can provide shitty service as well. Service has nothing to do with how a girl looks. Service depends on various factors. Her attitude, vibes, chemistry between you and her, ambiance of the place / venue, etc. Guys who say hot girls provide shitty service just don't know any better, they don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc) to score a hottie, and not only to score, but to make her like or love them, because great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection. Something that money alone can't always buy.MB, I don't wish to pick on you all the time, but you write some really bizarre comments.

I agree that "Service depends on various factors" and "has nothing to do with how a girl looks". But then you say "Guys who say hot girls provide shitty service don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc)". This I find an incredible claim. If Guy X can has great sex w Chica Ugly (by your subjective claim), you think that Chica Hot will have different needs to Chica Ugly in the sack? On what grounds do you base that?

"great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection" – now you sound like Elvis! Is this your alt profile?! The best sex I have had is with a girl in Pattaya that regularly bangs 10 guys per day. And the best I have in Col is w a Mileroticos girl that charges 60 mil.

"but to make her. Love them" – and this is really off the deep end. Pray tell, why on Earth would you want to do that w a girl that your paying for sex?

One day, I will buy you a beer for the entertainment you provide. But I guess you wouldn't drink beer unless it uses water distilled from the secret rivers of Tibet or Mongolia.

JustTK
08-25-22, 18:29
ISurely not everyone has the same definition or rather same experience of what great sex is. Connecting with someone will not make them clairvoyant and know he loves getting his balls licked from the back or he hates getting his balls licked from the back. It is by pure chance that people are having this idea of great sex together.Right. And not only that, but what works today might not work the same tomorrow. Depends on mood in the moment too.

Mtndew704
08-25-22, 21:39
I found a midget on tinder, wish me luck boys.

JjBee62
08-25-22, 23:31
I found a midget on tinder, wish me luck boys.I'm pretty sure you'll be nuts over her.

DontSayMuch
08-25-22, 23:32
I wouldn't say your message is in poor form but I think you're shooting yourself in the dick a little bit. Why tell them you're visiting for a week? That tells them you're a tourist and you probably don't know the scene and so they start out asking for the triple rate. Afterall maybe you don't know what the fair market value is and you'll grab her offer out of hand.

I usually use a greeting like:

Hola Maria (substitute her name), mucho gusto. Me estoy quedando en un hotel bonito en Laureles (or Poblado or where ever you are staying). A veces estoy aburrido why me gustaria la compania de una mujer hermosa como tu. Podriamos planear una cita traviesa? Gracias.

Tienes WhatsApp? Mi numero es: +1 xxx yyy zzzz.

The last line is only needed if you want to switch your conversation to WhatsApp and so, it could be skipped.

If I didn't f* up my Spanish. It would loosely translate as follows:

Hello Maria, it's a pleasure to meet you. I am staying in a nice hotel in Laureles. Sometimes I am bored and I would like the company of a beautiful woman like you. Could we plan a naughty meeting? Thanks.

Do you have WhatsApp? My number is: +1 (xxx) yyy-zzzz.

That way she doesn't know if you are a visitor or a resident or what. I usually say I've been living in Medellin for 3 years but I don't think you need to say that. I usually get a response saying something like: Yes, when would you like to plan a visit. I don't usually initiate a discussion about pricing but I always plan on paying the FB girl 200 + taxis. Some will bring up the price, most of the girls I talk to don't. Some guys think it is better to bring it up to preclude any kind of misunderstanding. Your choice.

If you have some special kinks you want, that would involve another couple of sentences.

Deberia dicirte sobre mis preferencias.

I should tell you about my preferences. They will almost always say. Dime (tell me).Thanks a bunch for the specificity! I obviously need it LOL. I'm going to try this on a couple other women and see if I can stop shooting my dick.

Elvis 2008
08-25-22, 23:40
MB, I don't wish to pick on you all the time, but you write some really bizarre comments.

I agree that "Service depends on various factors" and "has nothing to do with how a girl looks". But then you say "Guys who say hot girls provide shitty service don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc)". This I find an incredible claim. If Guy X can has great sex w Chica Ugly (by your subjective claim), you think that Chica Hot will have different needs to Chica Ugly in the sack? On what grounds do you base that?

"great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection" now you sound like Elvis! Is this your alt profile?! The best sex I have had is with a girl in Pattaya that regularly bangs 10 guys per day. And the best I have in Col is w a Mileroticos girl that charges 60 mil.
Sorry, you are getting piled onto MB. That is the sport of this forum. It was funny to see Pile on Pauline get the pile on treatment when he dueled with JJBee. Pile on Pauline was actually in the right.

The funny part MB is if you said what you did anywhere but here, these dummies would be the ones getting skewered while you are one who would be getting praised.

I took the jabs from the insecure people here. Then I realized none of the guys mouthing off ever showed pics of any attractive women they were with which meant all the guys on the price police are fucking fat, ugly women. I can look at a pic of any woman in the USA and estimate how much she charges. But with these fools, the only thing that matters with price is location. They are actually trying to sell the notion that looks and performance do not matter. Since when?

And when I went for the better performing and looking women, I wondered if I was overpaying, but the prices were consistent. I even consulted with locals and saw I was not overpaying. I was just not fucking dogs at a discount. One guy said, "All women are in demand". Really? Guys are not willing to pay more for looks, personality, and performance. I repeat, since when? So you and I know these guys are totally full of shit right?

I get paying for sex. The truth is if you make a decent income, it is cheaper to pay. Hell, it is cheaper to fly to Colombia and pay for it than to have a wife or GF in the USA. I was so shell shocked after my divorce, the only way I could trust women at all was with a transaction, and I still feel that way with almost all American women. I have met only a small handful of beautiful American women who have not ridden their looks for money. My favorite line from one hottie was, "I am too pretty to work".

After the crazy trafficking laws, I went abroad. I found what I thought was a great gal and got engaged, but I still thought my only role as fiance was just to pay and was frustrated when she cut me off sexually. I was like I can see a ho for a whole lot less. Eventually, I caught in her a lie, and she broke it off. She told me that she felt like a ho. It took a long time and self reflection to realize that she was upset that I had a transactional feeling about our relationship.

As painful as the breakup was, a tremendously hot woman wanted me for more than money, and it boosted my confidence. That is something these clowns do not get. That boost in confidence was worth the heart break. Sure enough after that, I realized that there were other women who were not solely interested in me for money, and they tried to charm me with things other than their sexuality, and I was open to it. My current gal is one of the two most striking women I have seen, and one of the top dozen looks wise I have ever seen. I almost blew it with her because I thought no way a woman that hot would be interested in me. And now it is unreal. I have one of the best looking, best performing women in the world and she cannot get enough sex. The crazy part is she is more into the relationship than I am. She cries like a baby if she has to wait more than 3 weeks to have sex.

A buddy of mine told me when I was younger that guys think that a woman is the one, that no one is better than her, and there is always better, but I am older now. I know there is not better than what I have now. Still, as good as she is, I knew I would not get the best out of her unless I committed to her so after a few months, I did. I left behind amazing, beautiful, and incredibly performing women, and it was not easy giving them up, but I am glad I did.

And these guys? Have they found women this amazing and hot who fell for them and they gave up their ways and committed? No? What does that say about them then? No one in the outside world would look at me with my gal with Victoria Secret's dimensions on my arm adoring me and look at these single guys or guys with their hos and say, "You know, I do not know about this guy Elvis but these guys have it all figured out with women. " People can spot WGs a mile away, and these losers keep trying to say my gal is a ho. They are so clueless they do not even know the difference.

I get having to stay in the gutter. I had to do P4P as part of the healing process and be in the gutter too. I needed the transactional nature of P4P after my divorce, but I eventually realized there was better and unlike these guys, I kept trying to do better and so do you. I am glad you are not content hanging out in the gutters and trying to be king of them like these fools. You are smart to want out.

So yeah, MB, you are going to get hurt aiming high and unlike with these losers, you have to grow with the pain. If I had not had the painful breakups, I would not be where I am now. The best learning experiences I have had were the painful ones. I had to learn how to avoid getting hurt but to keep trying, and you do too. The gutter is enticing because it is almost pain free.

So MB, do not even listen to these guys. They are not just fucking losers but cowards. If you keep at it and learn from your experiences, you will get where I am. There is more to a man than his wallet and more to a woman than what is between her legs. You know you may have a keeper when a woman shows you she is trying to be more than just a good lay.

DontSayMuch
08-25-22, 23:47
I would leave out "Sometimes I am bored and". To me, that is saying you're only considering her because you are bored.Thanks for the input!

DontSayMuch
08-25-22, 23:49
Did you guys find a message template in the MS Word library or smthg?I've been reading the forum for a few months and this type of message was suggested. The modifications are great though. I'll let people know how it goes and will upload reports next week and hopefully noobies might find it informative.

RiceRocket99
08-26-22, 00:56
Seems the forum is a little dry, so I'll add some spice to it. Ill come out from hiding. Sorry, no barrio stories this time. Not yet hehe. But there's definitely a barrio twist to this. So, about a month ago I hit up Loutron (Calle 16 a Sur #9 E-500, whatsapp is 57-313XXXX517) with a recently divorced high school buddy of mine. This was his first maiden trip to Medellin and to South America in general. He speaks very little Spanish despite the fact his ex-wife is Mexican. He's also Asian in his late 30's. I haven't been back to Loutron in like 7 or 8 years and I wanted to show him the creme de la creme in terms of casas. I'm not a Centro guy and I haven't hit a casa in years, but I wanted to see how Loutron is now compared to my last and only visit. It's also for nostalgia purposes.

But damn. I forgot it's way up in the hills in Las Palmas. The address is accurate and there's a gate entrance that clearly states the entire address, but it can be easily missed if you don't keep an eye out on the way up. You still have to drive up a rocky / dirt road for about 1-2 minutes and then reach the main mansion. The place is still what I remembered it with a nice and friendly mamasan, wide open space with a spiraling staircase, a lounge with a bar and girls walking around in their white labcoats. I didn't partake, but I think the prices were 380 mil for an hour, not exactly sure since I was there to spectate, not to participate. Girl quality was mid level to high end. There were about 10 girls, and I'll say 2 were super hotties IMO.

My buddy took one hottie. I declined since my style is usually BB everything and I know these girls will upsell from DFK to BBBJ. I waited while my buddy popped his first Colombian casa cherry albeit the exclusive and expensive kind. I decided to order a beer and got one as well for the other hottie. We ended up talking and asked her where she lives, surprisingly she said Bello. In my head, I'm like I got thissssss. Chino charm about to hit level 9,000 hehe. I told her I live in Bello too, we're neighbors! Of course, she didn't believe me. Then I proceeded to bust out my Bello barrio knowledge on her fine ass hehe. She was definitely surprised by how much I knew and the stuff that a typical gringo wouldn't know. I asked her what barrio she lives in, and when she told me Las Cabanas, it was checkmate. I know her barrio like the back of my hand and she was even more impressed. Needless to say, I got her number and the chance to hang out with her in Bello beats doing that in Las Palmas by miles in terms of distance and pricing as I would find out later. BTW, my buddy said his girl was fine as fuck, but everything was covered of course and very light kissing. Either way, he had a good time.

Fastforward to the following weekend, I hit up the Loutron girl and said I'll take her out to dinner, drinks and back to my apartment. There are some nice restaurants out here in Bello, obviously they're not up to Poblado standards, but at least you won't see gringos or gringo pricing. While on this topic, almost forgot to put out this gringo alert: Don't come out to Bello! It's too dangerous!! Ok, got that out the way hehe.

I asked her how much for the date, she said 350 mil. I countered with 250 mil and said DFK and BBBJ are a must. She said OK, game on! We had dinner and drinks in Obrero, shared many stories, and the chemistry was unreal. We hit up a nearby club, and drank and partied till around 1 am, then back to my apartment which was about a 5 minute cab ride. Her body was soft to the touch and her ass was bubblelicious. She started with BBBJ and we did multiple positions and finished with CIM, which was quite a surprise since I didn't ask for it in advance, it just happened on the spot and she didn't say no hehe. We chilled for another hour and she took indriver back to her spot afterwards. Damage was 250 mil plus 15 mil taxi for a 6 hour date.

A definite repeat, which in fact happened a couple times already since our first aforementioned date. A couple weeks later she invited me to a finca for her friend's birthday party, the pic of us at the finca. That's another story, for another time. Cheers everyone!

BootyBandit84
08-26-22, 02:02
How much are they quoting now? A price update would be very helpful now. I think all the girls know about USD-COP exchange rate increases.Last few years, new FB girls always asked for like 300 k-350 k and I was always able to talk them down to a much lower price no problem. The last month or so several of them have asked 350 k-450 k and have been very reluctant to agree to any less. Mind you these are new girls. My usual girls never ask me for any specific amount anymore and are happy with what I give them. But it looks like new girls are trying to raise prices.

DontSayMuch
08-26-22, 02:13
Seems the forum is a little dry, so I'll add some spice to it. Ill come out from hiding. Sorry, no barrio stories this time. Not yet hehe. But there's definitely a barrio twist to this. So, about a month ago I hit up Loutron [Deleted by Admin]) with a recently divorced high school buddy of mine. This was his first maiden trip to Medellin and to South America in general. He speaks very little Spanish despite the fact his ex-wife is Mexican. He's also Asian in his late 30's. I haven't been back to Loutron in like 7 or 8 years and I wanted to show him the creme de la creme in terms of casas. I'm not a Centro guy and I haven't hit a casa in years, but I wanted to see how Loutron is now compared to my last and only visit. It's also for nostalgia purposes.

But damn. I forgot it's way up in the hills in Las Palmas. The address is accurate and there's a gate entrance that clearly states the entire address, but it can be easily missed if you don't keep an eye out on the way up. You still have to drive up a rocky / dirt road for about 1-2 minutes and then reach the main mansion. The place is still what I remembered it with a nice and friendly mamasan, wide open space with a spiraling staircase, a lounge with a bar and girls walking around in their white labcoats. I didn't partake, but I think the prices were 380 mil for an hour, not exactly sure since I was there to spectate, not to participate. Girl quality was mid level to high end. There were about 10 girls, and I'll say 2 were super hotties IMO.

My buddy took one hottie. I declined since my style is usually BB everything and I know these girls will upsell from DFK to BBBJ. I waited while my buddy popped his first Colombian casa cherry albeit the exclusive and expensive kind. I decided to order a beer and got one as well for the other hottie. We ended up talking and asked her where she lives, surprisingly she said Bello. In my head, I'm like I got thissssss. Chino charm about to hit level 9,000 hehe. I told her I live in Bello too, we're neighbors! Of course, she didn't believe me. Then I proceeded to bust out my Bello barrio knowledge on her fine ass hehe. She was definitely surprised by how much I knew and the stuff that a typical gringo wouldn't know. I asked her what barrio she lives in, and when she told me Las Cabanas, it was checkmate. I know her barrio like the back of my hand and she was even more impressed. Needless to say, I got her number and the chance to hang out with her in Bello beats doing that in Las Palmas by miles in terms of distance and pricing as I would find out later. BTW, my buddy said his girl was fine as fuck, but everything was covered of course and very light kissing. Either way, he had a good time.

Fastforward to the following weekend, I hit up the Loutron girl and said I'll take her out to dinner, drinks and back to my apartment. There are some nice restaurants out here in Bello, obviously they're not up to Poblado standards, but at least you won't see gringos or gringo pricing. While on this topic, almost forgot to put out this gringo alert: Don't come out to Bello! It's too dangerous!! Ok, got that out the way hehe.

I asked her how much for the date, she said 350 mil. I countered with 250 mil and said DFK and BBBJ are a must. She said OK, game on! We had dinner and drinks in Obrero, shared many stories, and the chemistry was unreal. We hit up a nearby club, and drank and partied till around 1 am, then back to my apartment which was about a 5 minute cab ride. Her body was soft to the touch and her ass was bubblelicious. She started with BBBJ and we did multiple positions and finished with CIM, which was quite a surprise since I didn't ask for it in advance, it just happened on the spot and she didn't say no hehe. We chilled for another hour and she took indriver back to her spot afterwards. Damage was 250 mil plus 15 mil taxi for a 6 hour date.

A definite repeat, which in fact happened a couple times already since our first aforementioned date. A couple weeks later she invited me to a finca for her friend's birthday party, the pic of us at the finca. That's another story, for another time. Cheers everyone!She's stunning and she sounds like a nice person, congrats!

Balboa
08-26-22, 02:20
A definite repeat, which in fact happened a couple times already since our first aforementioned date. A couple weeks later she invited me to a finca for her friend's birthday party, the pic of us at the finca. That's another story, for another time. Cheers everyone!Good for you Chino lindo! Lol.

Charm and Spanish did you good!

Elvis 2008
08-26-22, 02:25
Fastforward to the following weekend, I hit up the Loutron girl and said I'll take her out to dinner, drinks and back to my apartment. There are some nice restaurants out here in Bello, obviously they're not up to Poblado standards, but at least you won't see gringos or gringo pricing. While on this topic, almost forgot to put out this gringo alert: Don't come out to Bello! It's too dangerous!! Ok, got that out the way hehe.

I asked her how much for the date, she said 350 mil. I countered with 250 mil and said DFK and BBBJ are a must. She said OK, game on! We had dinner and drinks in Obrero, shared many stories, and the chemistry was unreal. We hit up a nearby club, and drank and partied till around 1 am, then back to my apartment which was about a 5 minute cab ride. Her body was soft to the touch and her ass was bubblelicious. She started with BBBJ and we did multiple positions and finished with CIM, which was quite a surprise since I didn't ask for it in advance, it just happened on the spot and she didn't say no hehe. We chilled for another hour and she took indriver back to her spot afterwards. Damage was 250 mil plus 15 mil taxi for a 6 hour date.

A definite repeat, which in fact happened a couple times already since our first aforementioned date. A couple weeks later she invited me to a finca for her friend's birthday party, the pic of us at the finca. That's another story, for another time. Cheers everyone!RR, that is a great story. I remember Pile on Pauline chiding you that your being stabbed was just a matter of time which I just shook my head at that, but one of the dumbest things he said was that all of Colombia was a scam. I know he hangs in the gutter, but the Colombia you are seeing and the one I am seeing are totally different than the ones these clowns describe. You won a girl over with charm and fun and had a blast. That is what I have seen and done. I am seeing the best of Colombia not a nation that is just one big scam.

That said, I should probably insulate you from the barbs that are coming by making up my own (in jest):

I scored a better chick in El Centro for 10 k COP and a can of spam.

Next time you go out with her, she is going to scopalamine you and steal everything in your apartment.

Next time you go out with her in Bello, you, she, and your dog are all going to get stabbed.

You way, way, way overpaid.

Dude, are you falling for a WG? WTF is the matter with you? Obviously, I know your situation way better than you do.

RR, I have called the other guys Medellin morons, but you are a Medellin marvel. I hope you keep posting man. It is nice to see a monger who does things the right way.

JjBee62
08-26-22, 03:39
What you are saying is that attractive girls = shitty service. This is not always the case. Ugly girls can provide shitty service as well. Service has nothing to do with how a girl looks. Service depends on various factors. Her attitude, vibes, chemistry between you and her, ambiance of the place / venue, etc. Guys who say hot girls provide shitty service just don't know any better, they don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc) to score a hottie, and not only to score, but to make her like or love them, because great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection. Something that money alone can't always buy.This might come as a surprise, but I mostly agree with you. Just need to clarify "great connection. ".

You are correct that there are many factors involved with great service. Too many to discuss at this time.

Instead of "great connection" I want to use "compatible goals. " In any encounter each person wants to get something out of it. For example, some guys really want to finish with COF. If a girl won't allow it, it's not going to be great. However, if unprompted she encourages it, an average session might quickly become a great one.

In the beginning of a relationship goal compatibility is high. You want to please her, she wants to please you, better chance for better sex. However, that quickly goes away. Even though the great connection remains, both won't always be on the same page and the sex won't always be the greatest.

Blakman
08-26-22, 04:07
By the way what happened to the legendary slapshot. And Thanks rice rocket. I rarely entertain since having passport issues but the site was really dry til you brought some liquid quality into play. I hail you the New Medellin don, replacing slapshot LOL.


Seems the forum is a little dry, so I'll add some spice to it. Ill come out from hiding. Sorry, no barrio stories this time. Not yet hehe. But there's definitely a barrio twist to this. So, about a month ago I hit up Loutron (Calle 16 a Sur #9 E-500, whatsapp is 57-313-703-5517) with a recently divorced high school buddy of mine. This was his first maiden trip to Medellin and to South America in general. He speaks very little Spanish despite the fact his ex-wife is Mexican. He's also Asian in his late 30's. I haven't been back to Loutron in like 7 or 8 years and I wanted to show him the creme de la creme in terms of casas. I'm not a Centro guy and I haven't hit a casa in years, but I wanted to see how Loutron is now compared to my last and only visit. It's also for nostalgia purposes.

But damn. I forgot it's way up in the hills in Las Palmas. The address is accurate and there's a gate entrance that clearly states the entire address, but it can be easily missed if you don't keep an eye out on the way up. You still have to drive up a rocky / dirt road for about 1-2 minutes and then reach the main mansion. The place is still what I remembered it with a nice and friendly mamasan, wide open space with a spiraling staircase, a lounge with a bar and girls walking around in their white labcoats. I didn't partake, but I think the prices were 380 mil for an hour, not exactly sure since I was there to spectate, not to participate. Girl quality was mid level to high end. There were about 10 girls, and I'll say 2 were super hotties IMO.

My buddy took one hottie. I declined since my style is usually BB everything and I know these girls will upsell from DFK to BBBJ. I waited while my buddy popped his first Colombian casa cherry albeit the exclusive and expensive kind. I decided to order a beer and got one as well for the other hottie. We ended up talking and asked her where she lives, surprisingly she said Bello. In my head, I'm like I got thissssss. Chino charm about to hit level 9,000 hehe. I told her I live in Bello too, we're neighbors! Of course, she didn't believe me. Then I proceeded to bust out my Bello barrio knowledge on her fine ass hehe. She was definitely surprised by how much I knew and the stuff that a typical gringo wouldn't know. I asked her what barrio she lives in, and when she told me Las Cabanas, it was checkmate. I know her barrio like the back of my hand and she was even more impressed. Needless to say, I got her number and the chance to hang out with her in Bello beats doing that in Las Palmas by miles in terms of distance and pricing as I would find out later. BTW, my buddy said his girl was fine as fuck, but everything was covered of course and very light kissing. Either way, he had a good time.

Fastforward to the following weekend, I hit up the Loutron girl and said I'll take her out to dinner, drinks and back to my apartment. There are some nice restaurants out here in Bello, obviously they're not up to Poblado standards, but at least you won't see gringos or gringo pricing. While on this topic, almost forgot to put out this gringo alert: Don't come out to Bello! It's too dangerous!! Ok, got that out the way hehe.

I asked her how much for the date, she said 350 mil. I countered with 250 mil and said DFK and BBBJ are a must. She said OK, game on! We had dinner and drinks in Obrero, shared many stories, and the chemistry was unreal. We hit up a nearby club, and drank and partied till around 1 am, then back to my apartment which was about a 5 minute cab ride. Her body was soft to the touch and her ass was bubblelicious. She started with BBBJ and we did multiple positions and finished with CIM, which was quite a surprise since I didn't ask for it in advance, it just happened on the spot and she didn't say no hehe. We chilled for another hour and she took indriver back to her spot afterwards. Damage was 250 mil plus 15 mil taxi for a 6 hour date.

A definite repeat, which in fact happened a couple times already since our first aforementioned date. A couple weeks later she invited me to a finca for her friend's birthday party, the pic of us at the finca. That's another story, for another time. Cheers everyone!.

OneManArmy86
08-26-22, 04:56
I have downloaded the Medellin map and there are a lot of locations in El Centro to ignore. Is it safe to walk down El Centro streets during the day going to all these locations without much issues with safety as long as I am careful or should I be taking a uber to these locations?
Most places in El Centro are pretty crowded and busy. Police are occasionally around the Metro entrances. There is some slight risk (before 6:00 PM) of more petty crimes, like pickpocketing. Travel light, and potentially have anything you carry in a travel pouch tucked under your pants. I've never had an issue but I constantly tap and check my pockets while walking every few minutes. Do not hang out in El Centro as it gets dark (8:00+ PM). Avoid going down streets where you see lots of homeless people laying on the floor.

Traffic is super congested in El Centro throughout the day, so an Uber will be safer, but it will be the absolute slowest way to get around.


Are all the other locations outside of El Centro safe during the day? If you guys have recommendations of good value for money / great locations I would appreciate it.Medellin is a big city. There will be good and bad spots throughout. El Poblado is the richer and more touristy part of the city; There's always cops patrolling throughout and its generally quite safe to walk around. Laureles is a wealthier part, but not wealthy enough that its displaced all the locals. Generally safe there too. There's dozens of neighborhoods each with varying degrees of safety.


I have seen a few independent escort advertising sites with good prices and I was wondering if people have had good experiences with these sites and also if staying at a love motel would they be required to give ID upon arrival to lower the chance of being drugged? I would be more inclined to try the site if the love motels require ID for the lady before entering the property after I check in.I'ved used photosprepagos and miloeroticos before with success. Love motels, around El Centro will rarely check for ID; they are cheap and you assume all risk. If you go to a love hotel that the girl knows / recommends, they generally get a small kickback of the price you pay for the room. This "generally" incentivizes the worker to play nice as they would be shitting where they sleep if she starts getting accused of theft. Your personal hotel is more likely to check ID cards; but if your hotel distance can be a problem. A girl from El Centro won't go to El Poblado and vice versa (in most cases during the day time). Traffic is too bad and the opportunity cost is too high for them, in most cases.


There is also a decent amount of escorts advertising incall in the popular safe areas and I am wondering if incalls are risky or safe in general in these safe areas?There's higher risk with this as its not clear just how safe the place is, unless you've visited it before. Generally, I would recommend for them to come to you for a slightly higher price. If you like her, see her again her place for a little cheaper. Its a safety thing, in my opinion.


I speak 0 Spanish and I know that doesn't work in my favor but I also know that women will have a negotiation when they are denied on their price and I'm assuming that I will be taken advantage of. Is the Medellin map prices still valid in 2022?The lack of spanish will hurt your negotiation power a lot, in person. Most girls know little to no English. You can get girls for as cheap as 50,000 pesos in El Centro to 400,000 in El Poblado. The escort websites are nice because you can use translators in WhatsApp and negotiate a price.

Tasss
08-26-22, 06:03
Last few years, new FB girls always asked for like 300 k-350 k and I was always able to talk them down to a much lower price no problem. The last month or so several of them have asked 350 k-450 k and have been very reluctant to agree to any less. Mind you these are new girls. My usual girls never ask me for any specific amount anymore and are happy with what I give them. But it looks like new girls are trying to raise prices.Welp, it took minimum 4 years for standard FB price to go from 150 to 200 k inclusive of transportation. 200 k was the standard price that got very little resistance late last year when I went. If you were paying 300 already last October or earlier you probably were already overpaying, but that's not my right to judge, just saying. Anyways last year a few asked for 300 but knew they were hot, like perfect bodies no kids, were part time models or whatever. I don't think realistically it bumped up to 300 k+ for run-of-the-mill chicas within 1 year, even with girls knowing about the exchange rate increase.

Nounce
08-26-22, 06:38
MB, I don't wish to pick on you all the time, but you write some really bizarre comments.....I will take a stab at this. I think the problem is he tried to generalize his experience. MB is fishing in a pond with many like him. That creates a different dynamic. It is not the girls worth more or require more in the basic sense. It is because he is being compared against others like him which means he is competing with others. If the same girl is put in a casa, then all these considerations will go away because the price is fixed, and you just need to book the girl early if there is competition. The girl will make more money by working harder, instead of making more by working less. LOL.

Several times I was denied extending session time when I received great BJ from the girls because a girl was booked immediately after. Providing great BJ does not require connection IMO. That is just one example. I get that there are mental part too, and that is YMMV.

Huacho
08-26-22, 09:50
100% disagree with this statement. Some of the best sex I've had was with girls I barely knew or had just met but something about them made me desire them deeply. I know this is probably a minority opinion, even here on a monger forum, LOL.One of the best sex sessions I ever had was with a woman with whom I did not even engage in conversation. My dick was inside her (raw) within fifteen seconds of meeting her. Of course she was from Paraguay because only paraguayas can undress in one single movement. I have no idea what her name was and could not pick her out of a lineup but it was really great sex. I do remember the address of the *****house though. It wasn't in Colombia, that is for sure. I have had sex maybe thirty or forty times in Colombia and it was seldom anything to remember.

Mtndew704
08-26-22, 13:57
I'm pretty sure you'll be nuts over her.She hasn't responded yet, hopefully I find a pregnant one roaming El Centro.

Fun Luvr
08-26-22, 14:57
No one in the outside world would look at me with my gal with Victoria Secret's dimensions on my arm adoring me and look at these single guys or guys with their hos and say, "You know, I do not know about this guy Elvis but these guys have it all figured out with women. "I understand what you are saying, but you should drop the Victoria's Secret reference. Have you looked at their website recently? A majority of their "models" look disgusting. They say they are marketing to the average woman. Unfortunately, they depict the average woman in the US pretty accurately.

Villainy
08-26-22, 15:22
I'm pretty sure you'll be nuts over her.Jajajajaja Now that is a funny little quip.

JustTK
08-26-22, 16:25
I will take a stab at this. MB is fishing in a pond with many like him. That creates a different dynamic.
.Hey Nounce, how are you?

Oh I see! Your suggesting that MB was saying that many guys don't have what it takes to GET A DATE with a cute girl. I was assuming he meant those guys don't have what it takes to have a good time with them and give them a good time. Yes, I agree that would be a different issue. But really? . he thinks it's a difficult take to get a date with a high charging girl, you got to have "game", "looks" . Really? You got to be kidding me. You just got to open your wallet enough, right?

Well, that covers my first point. My second and third points still stand - "great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection" and "but to make her. Love them". Really bizarre.

JustTK
08-26-22, 16:46
One of the best sex sessions I ever had was with a woman with whom I did not even engage in conversation. My dick was inside her (raw) within fifteen seconds of meeting her. Of course she was from Paraguay because only paraguayas can undress in one single movement. I have no idea what her name was and could not pick her out of a lineup but it was really great sex. Maybe I should move over to the Paraguay section. Hehe. I think those types of occassions are the best. Having your dlck inside within a few seconds of meeting her. Well, that means your already at 5 out of 10 before she's even started. Something slightly sordid always makes it more memorable. Like fkn a girl up the arse in an open bar, it can raise an average performance into one worthy of pride.

Nounce
08-26-22, 18:39
Hey Nounce, how are you?

Oh I see! Your suggesting that MB was saying that many guys don't have what it takes to GET A DATE with a cute girl.....I am pretty good, and hope you are too.

It's based on my observation and I don't really know what he means completely. The way I look at it is that MB is in a bidding contest and they are not likely to treat the girls as shared, not the same way we think about casa girls. That is why some will choose to take the girl off the market completely to avoid competition. The problem is to apply that view to mongers that pay fixed price and share women.

JjBee62
08-26-22, 20:12
Jajajajaja Now that is a funny little quip.Courtesy of the late, great John Fox. One of the best at delivering one-liners.

RiceRocket99
08-26-22, 21:23
RR, I have called the other guys Medellin morons, but you are a Medellin marvel. I hope you keep posting man. It is nice to see a monger who does things the right way.I appreciate it. Just for you and some of the members (shout out to Mojobandit) here that have given me positive feedback, I'll keep posting my adventures as well as misadventures hehe. When I feel another itch to write a barrio story, I'll scratch one up on this board soon enough. Seems like lots of newbies on this forum lately, it's all good. Just don't do what I do hehe. I'm not going to say I'm a Medellin expert, but I'll take Medellin Marvel. It has a nice ring to it, like I got some sort of superpowers hehe. For those coming here soon, just go enjoy yourself, be aware of your surroundings, and get out of your comfort zone! And yes, learn some basic Spanish.

NuKamdev
08-26-22, 23:00
Kind of like Blackbeards in the DR. Its like shooting fish in a barrel. No chase, no accomplishment. Then you have to rest up for another. Like ordering a fish dinner in a restaurant instead of catching the fish and dominating it until it wears out its fight. Most of the girls at the mansion have fake tities, some are older, most are there because they make money. Not real. An illusion.Can anyone go to the Hotel M bar to check out the scene or it is restricted to the hotel guests? Has anyone not staying at Hotel M went and picked up chicas from there?

MiamiBoy1
08-26-22, 23:01
I am pretty good, and hope you are too.

It's based on my observation and I don't really know what he means completely. The way I look at it is that MB is in a bidding contest and they are not likely to treat the girls as shared, not the same way we think about casa girls. That is why some will choose to take the girl off the market completely to avoid competition. The problem is to apply that view to mongers that pay fixed price and share women.You are correct, I was talking about non pros and semi pros in my recent post. I don't care about establishing a rapport with a working girl. I rarely go to casas or similar venues, but when I do, it is usually wham bam thank you ma'am type of situation. When I just want to bust a nut, and do it quickly. In this case, I would not care if she is into me or not, I know she is serving multiple dicks per day, and I definitely would not be interested in dating or having ppm arrangement with someone who does this for living. I'm not really criticising casa guys, or those who are into street working girls, I totally get it, it is realtively easy and cheap, doesn't require any special skills, game or much money. I did casas and Lleras exclusively 5-6 years ago and back then I thought it was quite an accomplishment to fuck a casa girl for 10 bucks. What I was trying to say is most casa guys don't know anything about other ways of mongering, because they haven't even tried. They prefer to be in the comfort zone, not investing time and effort into scoring hot, intelligent women that don't suck 10 dicks per day. I feel bad for these guys, because they are missing out. I feel bad for your clown buddy TK whose best sex was with the working girl that fucked 10 guys every day. TK, did you fuck her raw? I bet you took an advantage of her desperation. Poor thing probably had to agree to all of your dirty fetishes just to earn a few bucks, but not because she wanted it.

Mr Enternational
08-27-22, 00:13
And these guys? Have they found women this amazing and hot who fell for them and they gave up their ways and committed? No? What does that say about them then?


RR, I have called the other guys Medellin morons, but you are a Medellin marvel. I hope you keep posting man. It is nice to see a monger who does things the right way.Good to hear that RR has committed to one girl so that he can get the best sex. Congratulations RR.

LoveItHere69
08-27-22, 00:42
You are correct, I was talking about non pros and semi pros in my recent post. I don't care about establishing a rapport with a working girl. I rarely go to casas or similar venues, but when I do, it is usually wham bam thank you ma'am type of situation. When I just want to bust a nut, and do it quickly. In this case, I would not care if she is into me or not, I know she is serving multiple dicks per day, and I definitely would not be interested in dating or having ppm arrangement with someone who does this for living. I'm not really criticising casa guys, or those who are into street working girls, I totally get it, it is realtively easy and cheap, doesn't require any special skills, game or much money. I did casas and Lleras exclusively 5-6 years ago and back then I thought it was quite an accomplishment to fuck a casa girl for 10 bucks. What I was trying to say is most casa guys don't know anything about other ways of mongering, because they haven't even tried. They prefer to be in the comfort zone, not investing time and effort into scoring hot, intelligent women that don't suck 10 dicks per day. I feel bad for these guys, because they are missing out. I feel bad for your clown buddy TK whose best sex was with the working girl that fucked 10 guys every day. TK, did you fuck her raw? I bet you took an advantage of her desperation. Poor thing probably had to agree to all of your dirty fetishes just to earn a few bucks, but not because she wanted it.This site exists for pay-for-play so we had to assume that. If you are speaking of non pros and semi pros you need to state so.

Girls that have sex for money is what they do and not necessarily who they are. You are a man working girl so women should not establish a rapport with you either. Most girls have to do this to support their families and yet your high and mighty self did it because you wanted to which is selfish while these girls are being selfless. Those girls are helping others while you only helped yourself to sexual fun. Rather shallow of you. Yet you feel you can look down upon them? Amazing! I know so many non pros who are horrible people and will sleep with tons of guys for nothing simply because they like it. It is funny that you believe we are unaware that non pros exist and are unable to get them. But you have somehow seen the light and now better than everyone.

Most guys are on 2 week to 6 month vacations and do not have the time to chase non pros. I think most guys want a slam dunk on the sex without wasted time doing the dinner, movies, and other stuff.

You believe non pros are better people and smarter than the street girls. Too much to comment on this one.

Based on your earlier post that the best sex requires love and affection and blah blah blah and you feel sorry for us. So the best sex in your eyes must be with ones wife? You must be getting married soon I assume. So strange you are posting here. You must be trying to convert us to your new found "religion" because we have not found the right way. Thank you but pass.

You attack TK for having the best sex with pros. You spent 5-6 years doing casa and Lleras. Why? You must have loved having horrible sex with pros. My mind keeps picturing a black kettle.

I hate guys that belittle these girls as if they are stupid, dirty, bad people.

EverythingBlue
08-27-22, 00:59
What you are saying is that attractive girls = shitty service. This is not always the case. Ugly girls can provide shitty service as well. Service has nothing to do with how a girl looks. Service depends on various factors. Her attitude, vibes, chemistry between you and her, ambiance of the place / venue, etc. Guys who say hot girls provide shitty service just don't know any better, they don't have what it takes (game, looks, money, etc) to score a hottie, and not only to score, but to make her like or love them, because great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection. Something that money alone can't always buy.I agree mostly. Hot girls have the benefit of getting enough business or attention from guys that they don't have to fake their act much if they're not feeling the guy, this applies on a date or if getting paid to fuck. Chemistry and connection enhance the act a lot, this cannot be understated. IMO it takes only seconds when you first meet the girl to determine how things will go, rarely things change from there or after the first encounter, it's all a complicated thing.

I think as a guy you have to bring your confidence to every meeting and make yourself desirable somehow, practice good hygiene and dress well, putting some cologne on helps too. It's really basic, treat each encounter like a real date and your chances go up, be sloppy and you roll the dice.

My plan is always going after the hottest girl possible, pro or not, it's the reason I got into hobbying, to fuck the most beautiful girls possible.

JustTK
08-27-22, 02:54
They prefer ... not investing time and effort into scoring hot, intelligent women that don't suck 10 dicks per day. I feel bad for these guys, because they are missing out. I feel bad for your clown buddy TK whose best sex was with the working girl that fucked 10 guys every day. TK, did you fuck her raw? I bet you took an advantage of her desperation. Poor thing probably had to agree to all of your dirty fetishes just to earn a few bucks, but not because she wanted it.You exist in an entirely different mental state to me. I find it bizarre but fascinating and funny.

How many guys a girl has fucked, even in the same day, is just not a factor that concerns me. It's like me worrying about what a girl had for breakfast that day -why should I care?

I am not sure what you mean when you say "score". Does that mean fuck or date, or smthg else? If it means date, well I think that demonstrates our difference. You refer to fkn a working girl as dating. Whereas I call it fkn a working girl.

I have met many hot girls, many intelligent girls. But I don't invest a lot of time and effort in it bcos I have better things to do in my life than spend time researching working girls. Besides, I meet hot girls and intelligent girls all the time, so I really don't need to spend more time. Also, I have a GF.

You equate high cost with beauty. It seems now you equate high cost with intellgence. I have not experienced that myself. I don't thiink they are related at all.

You gain pleasure in spending your time researching girls that fulfil your fantasy. Barbie girls that you think the rest of the world likes, that you think deserve more money. You put them on a pedastal. In the end, you might get lucky and FK a girl that finally meets your fantasy. Hopefully you do, bcos it would be a shame to waste your life looking for a needle in a haystack, especially when the needle is a figment of your own creation. Whereas I achieve the same result and pleasure with a 5 minute search.

My top bed-friend in Thailand is super intelligent. She has spent her youth working hard and earning lots of money. With her work, she has bought a car, a big house on a lakeside. All with cash from banging guys in Pattaya. Now she is getting towards retirement age, and she has done well. That is pretty damn intelligent if you ask me.

JustTK
08-27-22, 02:56
Can anyone go to the Hotel M bar to check out the scene or it is restricted to the hotel guests? Has anyone not staying at Hotel M went and picked up chicas from there?If its the same rules as before, you can go but there is an entrance fee. Used to be 50 mil.

Lefeu
08-27-22, 03:05
This site exists for pay-for-play so we had to assume that. If you are speaking of non pros and semi pros you need to state so.

...I hate guys that belittle these girls as if they are stupid, dirty, bad people.I agree with you. That fellow is full of it, and full of contradictions.

JustTK
08-27-22, 03:08
It's really basic, treat each encounter like a real date and your chances go up, be sloppy and you roll the dice.
My plan is always going after the hottest girl possible, it's the reason I got into hobbying, to fuck the most beautiful girls possible.Are you telling us that you have been on dates with pros and they refused to FK you? I have met girls that refused to do X or Y or whatever, but I don't think I ever met a pro that refused to FK me. Another one that seems to be confusing or blurring the lines with their fantasy (I need to show my game, my looks, my humour) with reality (she's a hoe).

Look, I read LoveItHere comment just below. I don't want him to think that I don't respect pros, bcos I certainly do. They deserve as much respect as anyone else. I just don't invent a fantasy world around them and pretend I am in some 60's sitcom.

RiceRocket99
08-27-22, 03:15
Good to hear that RR has committed to one girl so that he can get the best sex. Congratulations RR.Yes! I've found the girl of my dreams and I'm not fucking anymore paisas. La chimba hpta gonorrea! Just wondering how long did it take you to get over 13k posts? I respect that, but goddamn you’re like the Michael Jordan of ISG posts.

Lefeu
08-27-22, 03:31
...100% disagree with this statement. Some of the best sex I've had was with girls I barely knew...Agree! I have had some great sex with girls that I barely knew. Likewise, I've had some great sex with repeats.

Mr Enternational
08-27-22, 04:24
Just wondering how long did it take you to get over 13k posts? I respect that, but goddamn youre like the Michael Jordan of ISG posts.I came on this site in 2005. Before my first time going to Thailand I asked a buddy if he knew anything about Thailand and he directed me to this site. The first thing I posted was asking one or some of those questions that 95% of new members post when they are going to a new place. A member named Old Thai Hand said RTFF! So I read the fucking forum and figured out I should stay at Nana Hotel and chicks are in the parking lot there and there was a complex of bars and clubs across the street, etc.

My buddy, who is still one of my main wingmen, never really posted here because he did not like the attitude of a lot of guys on the forum. Also my first time going to the Dominican Republic was with him when I did not speak a lick of Spanish. We were walking down the street in Boca Chica (at the tail end of its heyday) and a chick was asking when I arrived. I had to ask him how to say yesterday in Spanish. Got to start somewhere. Now I am pretty much fluent in Spanish. One word at a time is the only way to learn. And if you do not open your mouth, you will never learn to speak it or any other language.

Nounce
08-27-22, 04:57
... I was talking about non pros and semi pros in my recent post....Are you saying you have great connection with these girls and they love you after you tell them you are fucking many other women?


... but to make her like or love them, because great sex can only be possible if there is a great connection. ....

Huacho
08-27-22, 10:12
I dress well, putting some cologne on helps too. Oh so that's what I have been doing wrong all these years. I can't tell you how many times hookers wouldn't give me good service because I forgot my cologne.

Knowledge
08-27-22, 12:23
Slapshot re-emerged here briefly a while back after I questioned whether he might be a gringo who met an unfortunate end in a hot tub. I immediately thought of him because of the hot tub connection. He announced he was still alive and being slapshot but no longer taking the time to publish it on a blow-by-blow basis.


By the way what happened to the legendary slapshot. And Thanks rice rocket. I rarely entertain since having passport issues but the site was really dry til you brought some liquid quality into play. I hail you the New Medellin don, replacing slapshot LOL..

Elvis 2008
08-27-22, 15:13
Yes! I've found the girl of my dreams and I'm not fucking anymore paisas. La chimba hpta gonorrea! Just wondering how long did it take you to get over 13k posts? I respect that, but goddamn youre like the Michael Jordan of ISG posts.LOL. That is a great come back, RR.

I was thinking that I had to put up with some shit because I met my gal off seeking, and you might get some pushback because of where you met her too. When guys call the women sluts based on where they have been, I wondered where is the sacred place these guys are talking about. I thought women are women, and I did not know where this place was where women sing instead of speak, hop instead of walk, have the figure of playboy bunnies, and are all virgins, did you? And then I realized it is church. All my best seeking girls were regular church goers so I should have said that I just met them there.

Apparently, if you have a needle in your arm, nostrils laced with cocaine, and pus dripping out of your naughty parts, you are a good girl once you enter church. If you have been with hundreds of men but go to confession, you are reclassified as a virgin. I do not know if there is a Loutron church in Medellin but maybe you could imply you met her there. Hope that helps.

Congrats on your gal, RR. She is a stunner, and you are a lucky man. IMO you get sex at the highest level when you commit to a woman and she gives you everything she has.

Elvis 2008
08-27-22, 15:15
Are you saying you have great connection with these girls and they love you after you tell them you are fucking many other women?Yeah, you have to commit to one girl within five seconds of meeting her or it is not real. Jesus, Nounce, drink much last night?

Recondite
08-27-22, 16:19
It still surprises me what some of the women I've met in Medellin and fuck for free were ok with. I'm married and in an open relationship and they know that. I am also clear that I have other amigas and have told a couple I can't see you today because I'm spending time with another amiga. The number one thing I've heard from paisas over and over again is that they hate being lied to by men. So I've found there is very little to lose and much to gain from being honest. Colombian men have set the bar so low that just being honest and not being a pig makes you look like a "caballero". Perversely I think the fact that I'm seeing other women can sometimes make a chica become competitive and more interested. One of the sexiest things I was ever told by a paisa was "Yo se que tu estas mirando otras chicas why esta bien. Solo quiero ser la mejor entre ellas" (I know that you are seeing other women and its fine. I just want to be the best one among them).


Are you saying you have great connection with these girls and they love you after you tell them you are fucking many other women?

ILikeButts
08-27-22, 20:06
IMO you get sex at the highest level when you commit to a woman and she gives you everything she has.My experience was the opposite. The one time I fully committed to a women the sex was not that great and I ended up giving HER everything I had. In the divorce, LOL.

InsolentSpike
08-27-22, 20:14
Hello Everyone.

I have been to Medellin twice already and have decided not to go anywhere else LOL. I love the Botero scene and don't see any other reason to stop going!

I am thinking of visiting late December until the new year!

Just wanted to ask the experts if there are still plenty of girls working at that time?

I am sure Christmas Day will be empty as well as new year but just wondering if all the girls go back home for the holidays like they do in Zone Norte Tijuana?!

I hope to still catch plenty of girls around the major holidays.

Thanks!

Surfer500
08-27-22, 20:42
By the way what happened to the legendary slapshot. And Thanks rice rocket. I rarely entertain since having passport issues but the site was really dry til you brought some liquid quality into play. I hail you the New Medellin don, replacing slapshot LOL.

.At one time you were a legend in your own right, kind of the antithesis of Slapshot.

And since your departure from Medellin, there's been quite a few new posters here.

If you scroll back a few months on this thread, you may read some posts here that will raise your eyebrows!

As I recall when you departed Medellin you were off to Kenya in search of beautiful black women as there weren't enough of them for you in Colombia. LOL.

Regardless, hopefully whatever your Passport issues are they will get resolved soon, and maybe you'll return to Medellin one day.

And just so you know, I've noticed quite a few new brands of Popcorn and cheap wines being sold in Exito. LOL.

Surfer500
08-27-22, 21:07
Hello Everyone.

I have been to Medellin twice already and have decided not to go anywhere else LOL. I love the Botero scene and don't see any other reason to stop going!

I am thinking of visiting late December until the new year!

Just wanted to ask the experts if there are still plenty of girls working at that time?

I am sure Christmas Day will be empty as well as new year but just wondering if all the girls go back home for the holidays like they do in Zone Norte Tijuana?!

I hope to still catch plenty of girls around the major holidays.

Thanks!There will be no shortage of girls in the timeframe you mentioned, because the majority of the girls working Centro live here as it's not like Tijuana. Granted there will be less Vennies, but no shortage of Colombians.

And Christmas day will not be empty, meaning nobody out, this last Christmas I was in Centro, and there were some girls out working, however not worth partaking in. I had never been to Centro on Christmas day before and went more out of curiosity.

And prior to Christmas day, there will be lots of girls out working trying to make money for the Holidays.

So with the exception of Christmas and New Years day, there should be more than enough girls available, as there will also be less mongers visiting during this time as well.

Surfer500
08-27-22, 21:25
It still surprises me what some of the women I've met in Medellin and fuck for free were ok with. I'm married and in an open relationship and they know that. I am also clear that I have other amigas and have told a couple I can't see you today because I'm spending time with another amiga. The number one thing I've heard from paisas over and over again is that they hate being lied to by men. So I've found there is very little to lose and much to gain from being honest. Colombian men have set the bar so low that just being honest and not being a pig makes you look like a "caballero". Perversely I think the fact that I'm seeing other women can sometimes make a chica become competitive and more interested. One of the sexiest things I was ever told by a paisa was "Yo se que tu estas mirando otras chicas why esta bien. Solo quiero ser la mejor entre ellas" (I know that you are seeing other women and its fine. I just want to be the best one among them).It's quite the "norm" here, and not surprising what you've encountered with the Paisa's, meaning them not having a problem that your banging other women, because they are also banging other guys as well.

Being honest is most definitely the way to go with them, and what I have found in my experience here, which works for me personally, unless I encounter a very jealous type of woman is, "don't ask don't tell' it just keeps things very clean in a sense.

Melvin45
08-27-22, 23:03
Medellin is the best ever I already spent three times I wish I will again with her.

Mtndew704
08-27-22, 23:18
Hello Everyone.

I have been to Medellin twice already and have decided not to go anywhere else LOL. I love the Botero scene and don't see any other reason to stop going!

I am thinking of visiting late December until the new year!

Just wanted to ask the experts if there are still plenty of girls working at that time?

I am sure Christmas Day will be empty as well as new year but just wondering if all the girls go back home for the holidays like they do in Zone Norte Tijuana?!

I hope to still catch plenty of girls around the major holidays.

Thanks!I have been in Medellin during the easter holiday, was a few girls but mostly dead. No chicas at all on Raudal.