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OrientalExpress
11-11-10, 19:11
Lindas Chicas unfortunately currently has changed for the worse. Nancy the owner told me that 10 of her girls were taken by some one and sent to Ecuador. Her explanation does not make much sense but for us Mongers, I would suggest to keep away for a few months while she builds up her inventory of Girls.
I still go to Lindas Chicas because for me she pulls out on call girls who are not sitting at her place but she has to call them. Photo posted by name of Eliana was introduced to me by Nancy at Lindas Chicas.
As per Loutron, I and two of my friends went to Loutron yesterday. I just went to see the line up but was not much impressed. Their were some 20 + girl at 2:00 pm at Loutron but none of jumped at me. One of my friends took one girl from Loutron but he was also not impressed with the service quality.
Charges at Loutron are now 210 k pesos for one hour. You can do the girl at Loutron or bring her back to the Mansion, your one hour start when you reach your room at the Mansion.
Regards,
John.Your reports remind me the time when I used to go to Mdn more than ten years ago. I used to have my clients in Mdn and to go there every 3 months. Back then, everything was very reasonable: hotel, food, drinks. Discoteque. Currency rate, and chicas. Specially chicas were very friendly and girlfriend-like. Whenever and wherever you go out with girls, the rest of chicas looked at you with enviousness. In fact, the chicas usually desperated to go out with foreigners, not for the money, but for tasting of foreign cultures. 30-50K pesos was suficient for TLN. They wanted to stay until breakfast(for them they could have free breakfast if they stay with you till morning). Loutron was really special place for the visitors. They were treated you like royal family. Chicas were very beautiful. Last July when I was in Mdn, I stopped there and was very disappointed by their service and quality of chicas. I miss my old days. But surely I can locate some quality girls without paying much money that you are talking about. It will happen to you when some good colombian frinds introduce their friends to go out. Still very much possible like what I do in Bogota.
Good Luck Guys.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-11-10, 21:07
Angie is one of the most hard core putas in Colombia, never mind just Medellin or Cali.. Why don't you become one of her many Western Union novios? She asked me for a propina because she wants to get a tit job! A few more gringos like you and she'll be well on her way, jajajjaja lol
Angie is one of the most hard core putas in Colombia, never mind just Medellin or Cali.. Why don't you become one of her many Western Union novios? She asked me for a propina because she wants to get a tit job! A few more gringos like you and she'll be well on her way, jajajjaja lolThe Medellin wave has crested and what is left on the beach is an interior, backwater provincial town. A dump actually. If you spend more than a couple days there, you'll know that all too clearly. Unless you're from a nowhere flyover place or a dullard homeland city yourself, in which case you mighn't notice the difference. But, if you like to join a circle jerk discussing 30-year-old mother-of-three hookers, and who had her first back in 2007, then Medellin might be just the place for you. Not knocking it; it is what it is. And, if its for you, enjoy Medellin for all its worth. It's a place where a lower caste/budget male can get himself laid without busting his wallet.
Latingirllover
11-12-10, 03:26
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Lindas Chicas unfortunately currently has changed for the worse. Nancy the owner told me that 10 of her girls were taken by some one and sent to Ecuador. Her explanation does not make much sense but for us Mongers, I would suggest to keep away for a few months while she builds up her inventory of Girls.
I still go to Lindas Chicas because for me she pulls out on call girls who are not sitting at her place but she has to call them. Photo posted by name of Eliana was introduced to me by Nancy at Lindas Chicas.
As per Loutron, I and two of my friends went to Loutron yesterday. I just went to see the line up but was not much impressed. Their were some 20 + girl at 2:00 pm at Loutron but none of jumped at me. One of my friends took one girl from Loutron but he was also not impressed with the service quality.
Charges at Loutron are now 210 k pesos for one hour. You can do the girl at Loutron or bring her back to the Mansion, your one hour start when you reach your room at the Mansion.
Regards,
John.I was in MDE two weeks ago.
Never had a girl from Lindas Chicas before so decided to give them a try. Thinking it was a 24/7 service and that most business is usually at night, I decided to call her at 1am. I told her what I liked and said I would be there at 2am. Sadly, no girls showed up (they were sleeping) and there was only two girls on premises. They say to come back tomorrow at 7-8pm. I was leaving the next day so I didn't get a chance to go back, but this is not 24/7 service!
I also went to Loutron. I never tried a girl from there before. Last time I went was my first trip almost 2 years ago. They had hot girls then and they had hot girls now. If it didn't cost so much, I'd be here everyday! I decided to pick a girl and try the service. Having low expectations (lots of reports of service being mechanical). I was pleasantly surprised. No rush. No GFE, but I would settle if the girl was extremely hot. Pretty enthusiastic. At the end, she lay next to me and we talked. I got her number but never called her because she sounded really, high maintenance, but since it sounded like service was above average for Loutrons, I might give her a call on my next trip!
lower caste budget male - that's me!! I'm in heaven!!
lower caste budget male - that's me!! i'm in heaven!!
enjoy to your heart's content. it's a lucky man who finds a place he likes. gave medellin a fair hearing, and moving on to see and find new places
Maybe that was just some luck of the draw with some of your Mansion girls? I don't think every girl is going to be great no matter the venue but I was lucky on my last trip batting nearly 100% with these chicas for GFE and general satisfaction. But I don't expect every girl to be so good, if 1 or 2 turn out so so its not the end of the world.
I don't like to get much into negotiations generally if not necessary and found that to be the case at MM as the going rate is pretty well established. So, my approach (I was there in August) was if I liked the girl I'd simply pull her and after all was said and done (60 to 90 minute honeymoon) handed her the 150K. This approach worked out very well for me, so I'm a little reluctant to change the formula. Having a sense before agreeing to session for whether a girl actually likes you and not just your money is important but its not foolproof, some of the girls are great actresses.
I am amazed about you and Angie Lorena, she was so distant when I met her myself and we failed to connect at all. I was very surprised at the time as usually the paisas seem to like me and enjoy my company - but maybe she was having a bad personal time or something. Glad you have enjoyed her so much, I still have no interest in her myself, there are too many other treasures awaiting.
Anyways I hope to see some more passionate girls at the Mansion. Previously Mansion girls used to be extremely friendly and were great company but sad to say that Mansion now has some girls who are not as Passionate as to Mansion code. Secondly, previously it was considered a pre-condition for a girl to work at the Mansion that she was to provide BBBJ without even negotiating but now we have to negotiate some services. I hope things will change for the better at the Mansion. For now I have my own rolodex that I can't seem to finish.
Angie is one of the most hard core putas in Colombia, never mind just Medellin or Cali.. Why don't you become one of her many Western Union novios? She asked me for a propina because she wants to get a tit job! A few more gringos like you and she'll be well on her way, jajajjaja lol
Come on Miami Heat Lover. A hard core puta or whatever you want to call her, she is just not for people like you. Angie Lorena is a girl who knows what she has and knows how to use her looks and also knows how to use her personality. What makes people like you decide what she should get paid. She is a service provider not a fucking Mc Donalds burger which has fixed price for every body.
As per me, God forbid if I ever become that stupid to be a western Union Novio for any chic in the world it would definately be Angie Lorena and don't you worry the day I decide to be her western Union Novio, this board will be last on my consultation list.
For now I am in my senses and I know what I want from a girl. Please let me live the dream that a hot looking girl like Angie is sleeping next to me. I don't care if it is for the money.
Lastly, I would like you to please let me keep focus of the board on my experiences with the girls. Those who are willing and able to pay can read it, enjoy it and have good time.
regards,
John.
Israeli King
11-12-10, 15:49
The girl is from Las Americas strip club in El Centro. 60k with photos.
Israeli King
11-12-10, 15:51
Picked her up in Mayorista don't know for sure what area the taxi driver took me, paid her 80k 2 hrs with photos.
Israeli King
11-12-10, 15:54
Strip club girl 70k with propina and photos.
Israeli King
11-12-10, 15:56
2 girls 2 nuts,40min 50k special.
Don't waste your time there.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-12-10, 17:09
Come on Miami Heat Lover. A hard core puta or whatever you want to call her, she is just not for people like you.
Not for people for like me? Who the "F" do you think I am? What do you know? HA HAAAA big LoL, First of all I have been with her one time already and we have also partied in a social environment and could easily call her again at any time and she would gladly come over. In a matter of fact I think I will call her and hook up with her maybe this weekend just for shits and giggles and #2 her picture has been posted here before and she has been used by 100's of men in Medellin and all around Colombia.
What makes you think you are so special, because she told you so? Did she tell you that you are "different", "special", "The one", "would like you to be her novio and she wants to get out of the business?" ja ja ja, thats pretty laughable!
You can and should pay anything these girls ask for. Why not it's your money? You like it and it makes you feel good. If you feel that its a good cathartic practice for yourself keep it up! But better you than me Pato! lol
oh and p.s. I would LOVEEEEE To post a picture of Angie dancing and stripping for me before we get down to business but I KNOW you would be the first one calling, skyping or texting her showing her the picture and telling her "people are posting pictures of you in a forum Angie did you know that? WTF?" under the guise of "I though you wanted something serious with me Angie"
TonySoprano
11-12-10, 17:44
I really find it amusing that some of our fellow mongers think that they can domesticate a puta. I know they are human beings. But the great majority are driven by money. Most gringos are easy preys for these girls. The truth of the matter most of these girls have several westerunion novios. Instead of trying to domesticate a *****, a better option would be to try to hook up with non-pro. Most Colombian women are actually very faitfull and committed to their relatonships.
Not for people for like me? Who the "F" do you think I am? What do you know? HA HAAAA big LoL, First of all I have been with her one time already and we have also partied in a social environment and could easily call her again at any time and she would gladly come over. In a matter of fact I think I will call her and hook up with her maybe this weekend just for shits and giggles and #2 her picture has been posted here before and she has been used by 100's of men in Medellin and all around Colombia.
What makes you think you are so special, because she told you so? Did she tell you that you are "different", "special", "The one", "would like you to be her novio and she wants to get out of the business?" ja ja ja, thats pretty laughable!
You can and should pay anything these girls ask for. Why not it's your money? You like it and it makes you feel good. If you feel that its a good cathartic practice for yourself keep it up! But better you than me Pato! lol
oh and p.s. I would LOVEEEEE To post a picture of Angie dancing and stripping for me before we get down to business but I KNOW you would be the first one calling, skyping or texting her showing her the picture and telling her "people are posting pictures of you in a forum Angie did you know that? WTF?" under the guise of "I though you wanted something serious with me Angie"
First off, go ahead call her this weekend you will do me a favor. Second, as I mentioned before pay her what you want to and whatever she agrees. Do not tell me what should I pay her. It is my money not yours. I can pay her $1,000 a night if I wanted to. So it is none of your business what I pay a girl.
May be I am just paying her that money because I wanted to help her get a computer. May be not. It is my money and I decide what to pay a girl.
May be a girl that you are willing to pay 50k pesos ain't worth me paying 5k and vice versa. It is best to keep your opinion to yourself. You don't pay my bills and I am certainly not going to ask what to pay a girl and I will leave it at that.
John.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-12-10, 20:14
Do not tell me what should I pay her. It is my money not yours. I can pay her $1,000 a night if I wanted to.
May be I am just paying her that money because I wanted to help her get a computer. May be not. It is my money and I decide what to pay a girl.
Where the F, did I tell you what to pay her? I told you already you should pay her whatever she asks for or whatever you or SHE thinks she's worth.
I'm glad you can pay her $1000 a night, Is that going to make your "nut" any stronger, get you more passion or intense love making as the next guy who doesn't pay her as much? Why don't you make that your common practice? Sounds like a good plan to me.
New Computer? Nice!! Get her a Mac with the built in cam, Im sure she has a NICE collection of computers and gadgets now. She will enjoy it for a while before it gets "stolen". lol
Would you feel better that my Colombian buddy bangs her for free? Now that's the best rate in Colombia in my opinion. je je lol
chesrep001 move over! i want to be a certified member of that club! for an even better lower caste male, go to san salvador, a city of auto repair shops, and great value for the lcbm!
israeliking, i kinda like barcelona..always enjoyed the experience, especially the lousy bed that makes your back break. can't beat the price, always found nice ones there.
Strip club girl 70k with propina and photos.Outstanding ! This is my style of girl. ! Was just in Medellin for Halloween. I found Luna nera club to be fun also . Very well done ! She is my definetion of a colombian body!
Colashermosas
11-13-10, 13:31
I was in their apartment and enjoyed myself in an very special way.
I had taken a viagra 100 mg and had a steel-erection. Thay let me walk around in thier apartment touching them when I wanted and pretended not to notice me. I pressed my cock at Angie Lorenas back when she was chatting on the messenger. I touched her primas brest and pressed my cock to her ass when she was cleaning the apartment. Thay acted like they didn´t care. This went on for an hour or more. Without any demands for money, spent time etc.
The real sex came afterwards and I payed standard 150k to Angie Lorena. She didn´t suck cock, but I penetrated this beauty without condom. What the fuck! She was so lovely.
Viagra makes it easy to hold off the cum impulse. So without coming, I went over to her prima and she suck me off and my cum landed on her legs...
The sex was an ordinary experience.
It became so relaxed being there, no asking for money or time. Touching them when I felt like.
That kind of experience I will try to find again.
I will go to a finca, at Santa fe de Antioquia, with two females. Thay are 33 and 36. In good condition.
I feel I can have a "light version" of that- for a weekend. Kissing them, touching them when I feel like.
This kind of light sex can last for hours and hours. Like tantric sex, a thing that also has to be explored. And the new miracle PT-141.
Colashermosas
11-13-10, 14:00
I have visited several metropol cities in the Latinamerica.
I think Medellin offers culture, climate and people with good manners. The city is also clean.
I compare with Rio, Buenos Aires, Lima, San Jose, Montevideo etc.
Medellin has much to offer and the city (and Colombia) have only enjoyed relative calm for a few years.
Imagine the same progress for the next ten years!
Medellin is not cheap in comparison with other metropoles in Latinamerica hence it is not a paradise for lower cast budget males.
Medellin deserves a visit!
The Medellin wave has crested and what is left on the beach is an interior, backwater provincial town. A dump actually. If you spend more than a couple days there, you'll know that all too clearly. Unless you're from a nowhere flyover place or a dullard homeland city yourself, in which case you mighn't notice the difference. But, if you like to join a circle jerk discussing 30-year-old mother-of-three hookers, and who had her first back in 2007, then Medellin might be just the place for you. Not knocking it; it is what it is. And, if its for you, enjoy Medellin for all its worth. It's a place where a lower caste/budget male can get himself laid without busting his wallet.
Member #3435
11-13-10, 17:16
The Medellin wave has crested and what is left on the beach is an interior, backwater provincial town. A dump actually. If you spend more than a couple days there, you'll know that all too clearly. Unless you're from a nowhere flyover place or a dullard homeland city yourself, in which case you mighn't notice the difference. But, if you like to join a circle jerk discussing 30-year-old mother-of-three hookers, and who had her first back in 2007, then Medellin might be just the place for you. Not knocking it; it is what it is. And, if its for you, enjoy Medellin for all its worth. It's a place where a lower caste/budget male can get himself laid without busting his wallet.
Yeah! Medellin is spent, done, agotado, kaput, esgotado.
In a few short years a few hundred gringo mongers have totally transformed a city of > 2 million.
Stay away. More for us! :)
Colashermosas
11-13-10, 17:17
I try to recover and find my contacts from my trip.
I have also found 3 new ones during the last 24 hs on Colombiancupid.
I have 15 now, more to come.
PM me if interested.
All girls are (very) attractive.
I feel that I can help both my females friends and my fellow mongers.
I hope to get and recover more contacts.
In Colombia it is easy to find this contacts. This girls are though of good quality and can save time for you.
Sailinaway
11-13-10, 17:29
I am here with a friend of mine. Staying at the San Fernando Plaza. Went to La Strada last night. Lot's of pretty girls. And LOT's of dudes. It was recommended by a friend of a friend that lives here. What was puzzling was how "unfriendly" the girls were. We were, for the most part, hanging at the bar talking. Doing our own thing. We attempted a few times to talk to girls (we were ignored every time) and sent drinks to two different groups of girls (at the recommendation of the waitress. Who was actually the only friendly girl we met all night. She offered to bring two of her friends to meet us tonight. We'll see) and got nowhere (and before you assume. We're decent looking 40 yr old guys that typically have no problem meeting women. Both successful, single and both dating pretty girls. Not being braggard here. Just establishing that were not haggard looking dudes that have trouble meeting pretty women).
We had hit the strip club the night before and didn't stay long. It was packed with guys (at least 10 to 1) and we didn't see that many hot girls (actually a lot of girls that were a little overweight). I think we were at FASE II. So we opted for a Friday night with "non-pro's" to try our luck.
We left La Strada and ventured into Parqu Lleras. Had a couple of drinks at a couple of different bars (Triada, El Rojo and Basilica). It was around 1 AM and we called it a night. The only few girls we ran into were all with large groups of guys (and I realize this is typically the case as single girls don't often venture out as they would rather have guy friends. Or boyfriends. There to pick up the tab). So there wasn't much to keep us interested.
I must say I went home feeling a little disenchanted after hearing how friendly and warm the women were. And let me be clear about expectations. I was not expecting to walk into a regular bar and pick up a girl and take her home. We were simply looking to meet and have fun with some regular girls from Medellin. My friend is from Honduras and speaks fluent spanish. So I thought that would be a plus. Honestly. It felt like trying to meet girls in any other city (granted there were many more beautiful girls that in most cities. I will say that!) and based on everything I had heard about Medellin. I was hoping to find a more warm reception from the women here.
So now that I have "whined" about it all (and if your still reading. Thanks for hanging in there!). This is my question to any of you that care to offer some suggestions.
As you can see from the title of my post. I am feeling my way around. And not having much luck. What I am looking for is a bar or a club where you are likely to find a girl that is a pro. But with the atmosphere that you are picking her up. Not into the "street girl" thing (if I ever tripped up and brought home a tranny. It would haunt me till the end of my days!) and don't prefer the club where you pop into a room for 30. 60 mins (just don't like the "feel"). I realize the "Beetle Bar" of Costa Rican fame doesn't exist here and I am not expecting to find that. But even in Chicago and Atlanta there are bars you can go into that are frequented by pros but also filled with businessmen and everyday people.
Thanks in advance for any tips!
P.S. And I have read the list posted by World Travel 69 and plan to try some of those tonight. If you have a favorite. Or another option. Let me know!
Yeah! Medellin is spent, done, agotado, kaput, esgotado.
In a few short years a few hundred gringo mongers have totally transformed a city of > 2 million.
Stay away. More for us! :)Have at it. Have had my fill. Good weather, though.
I have visited several metropol cities in the Latinamerica.
Medellin ... it is not a paradise for lower cast budget males.
Medellin deserves a visit!(there's that phrase again)
Had a nice little spinner (I think tatiana) at mayorista yesterday for $30k cop
Today had anni, cute little thing with, in the words of al pacino in the movie "heat" A GREAT ASS for $30k cop. That's $15 USD!
Now, I consider my self among the plebeians & Medellin is definitely for me.
I didn't think this was available ...
Member #2492
11-14-10, 07:15
I was in their apartment and enjoyed myself in an very special way.
The real sex came afterwards and I payed standard 150k to Angie Lorena. She didn´t suck cock, but I penetrated this beauty without condom. What the fuck! She was so lovely.You went bareback with a very known prostitute?
That girl is palid like a ghost since months, if not years. I have always refused to be with her (and her "prima"). Always felt something was and is wrong.
Thanks for reminding me that topic (STDs). You just probably saved my life.
So I was going to spend the weekend with a friend and after reading ISG and your post, I simply asked my date to pass both of us a STD test (available at Prado Center, Poblado, Envigado for as low as 40, 000 pesos; results the same day),
My date refused to pass the test, she said not now.
Once again, thanks.
Saw this book on Amazon: Men's Guide to Colombia.
Any opinions or reviews?
Frank Casio
11-14-10, 18:41
Hey guys, (don't try this at home, leave it to the experts, ha, ha)
The trick to going bare back is simple. If you ask and they say yes right away, then it's a no, no. If they say a re-soundly NO, then the chances are she says no to everybody and it takes an expert like me, ha, ha, to convince her to go bareback. I'll keep that part to myself. But I will share on how to get her to do a BBBJ. Just tell her that you can't catch AIDS doing oral sex, or is next to impossible. And ask if she has ever seen a sex video where someone is doing a blow job with a condom? Also, that you are a very clean person. Then go ahead and offer her a 10kcop tip.
Frank Casio!
You went bareback with a very known prostitute?
That girl is palid like a ghost since months, if not years. I have always refused to be with her (and her "prima"). Always felt something was and is wrong.
Thanks for reminding me that topic (STDs). You just probably saved my life.
So I was going to spend the weekend with a friend and after reading ISG and your post, I simply asked my date to pass both of us a STD test (available at Prado Center, Poblado, Envigado for as low as 40, 000 pesos; results the same day),
My date refused to pass the test, she said not now.
Once again, thanks.
Frank Casio
11-14-10, 19:13
Hi Midwest,
Lucky you, Annie is a cutie, beautiful ass and those hot mini-skirts she wears, revealing those voloptuous legs. I wanted her so bad, but it never happenned. She always hung around my friend's restaurant, the one with the metal chairs, pastries and roast chicken. Since I know him and his family I was embarrassed to try anything, and I even thought she was family because she was always talking to my friends wife. In addition I never got any feed back from her, she never returned my stares. I think she thought I was a hard-ass or stuck-up as some girls do.
She was one of VicsPics favorites. I fianally just gave up, but I envy you. She looked young, and since she hung around my friend's restaurant, at first I didn't even think she was a working girl. She dresses really nice and looks really clean, but what an ass.! Tatiana is no push-back either, a hot little spinner. There are more than a few Tatiana's in La Mayorista, but they're all hot little spinners, at least the once I know, 3 at least. Also, I'm just throwing this in, the chairs and tables have been back on the sidewalk in La Mayorista for almost a year now.
Frank Casio!
(there's that phrase again)
Had a nice little spinner (I think tatiana) at mayorista yesterday for $30k cop
Today had anni, cute little thing with, in the words of al pacino in the movie "heat" A GREAT ASS for $30k cop. That's $15 USD!
Now, I consider my self among the plebeians & Medellin is definitely for me.
Colashermosas
11-14-10, 19:13
She is so fucking teenager-stupid and that turned me on.
Afterwards I tested negative. On a test incluing every STD known to man.
On occasions Mr Big has such as influences over my mind that I loose all my rationality.
Colombia is a special paradise since females come to you, even if you are an modest middle-man.
I will go on with bareback fucking, make porn and sell it in the US under the title POCAHONTAS, since the mayority of the goodlooking hookers is half indians with long straight hair, dark eyes.
Medellin offers 1st class culture of varios types.
Medellin on the other hand also offers horney females, that themselves take the initiative in contacting Anglosaxons.
That city is paradise for Anglosaxons.
No place on earth has so many females that have silicon lips, boobs and ass. And want you attention!
I love that! You have so many females walking around exposing their beauty that you are practically horney 24/7!
Culture, sports, restaurants, nature.
When Frank says Medellin Paradise I agree 100%
You went bareback with a very known prostitute?
That girl is palid like a ghost since months, if not years. I have always refused to be with her (and her "prima"). Always felt something was and is wrong.
Thanks for reminding me that topic (STDs). You just probably saved my life.
So I was going to spend the weekend with a friend and after reading ISG and your post, I simply asked my date to pass both of us a STD test (available at Prado Center, Poblado, Envigado for as low as 40, 000 pesos; results the same day),
My date refused to pass the test, she said not now.
Once again, thanks.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-14-10, 19:39
I am here with a friend of mine. Staying at the San Fernando Plaza. Went to La Strada last night. Lot's of pretty girls. And LOT's of dudes. It was recommended by a friend of a friend that lives here. What was puzzling was how "unfriendly" the girls were. We were, for the most part, hanging at the bar talking. Doing our own thing. We attempted a few times to talk to girls (we were ignored every time) and sent drinks to two different groups of girls (at the recommendation of the waitress.
Have you tried the dating websites? Its a good way to "penetrate" a girls circle of friends once you make contact with at least one of them.
The gringo "novelty" is long gone thats if there ever even was one. Gringos are not getting the best reputation in Medellin and I would even go as far as saying "starting to be frowned upon" and as the Kangaroo Man says "Any girl seen with a gringo might be perceived as a prepago" Sad but getting true!
You went bareback with a very known prostitute?
That girl is palid like a ghost since months, if not years. I have always refused to be with her (and her "prima"). Always felt something was and is wrong.
Thanks for reminding me that topic (STDs). You just probably saved my life.
So I was going to spend the weekend with a friend and after reading ISG and your post, I simply asked my date to pass both of us a STD test (available at Prado Center, Poblado, Envigado for as low as 40, 000 pesos; results the same day),
My date refused to pass the test, she said not now.
Once again, thanks.If your protecting yourself do you still need a test?
SlamCity7777
11-14-10, 22:18
I am here with a friend of mine. Staying at the San Fernando Plaza. Went to La Strada last night. Lot's of pretty girls. And LOT's of dudes. It was recommended by a friend of a friend that lives here. What was puzzling was how "unfriendly" the girls were. We were, for the most part, hanging at the bar talking. Doing our own thing. We attempted a few times to talk to girls (we were ignored every time) and sent drinks to two different groups of girls (at the recommendation of the waitress. Who was actually the only friendly girl we met all night. She offered to bring two of her friends to meet us tonight. We'll see) and got nowhere (and before you assume. We're decent looking 40 yr old guys that typically have no problem meeting women. Both successful, single and both dating pretty girls. Not being braggard here. Just establishing that were not haggard looking dudes that have trouble meeting pretty women).
We had hit the strip club the night before and didn't stay long. It was packed with guys (at least 10 to 1) and we didn't see that many hot girls (actually a lot of girls that were a little overweight). I think we were at FASE II. So we opted for a Friday night with "non-pro's" to try our luck.
We left La Strada and ventured into Parqu Lleras. Had a couple of drinks at a couple of different bars (Triada, El Rojo and Basilica). It was around 1 AM and we called it a night. The only few girls we ran into were all with large groups of guys (and I realize this is typically the case as single girls don't often venture out as they would rather have guy friends. Or boyfriends. There to pick up the tab). So there wasn't much to keep us interested.
I must say I went home feeling a little disenchanted after hearing how friendly and warm the women were. And let me be clear about expectations. I was not expecting to walk into a regular bar and pick up a girl and take her home. We were simply looking to meet and have fun with some regular girls from Medellin. My friend is from Honduras and speaks fluent spanish. So I thought that would be a plus. Honestly. It felt like trying to meet girls in any other city (granted there were many more beautiful girls that in most cities. I will say that!) and based on everything I had heard about Medellin. I was hoping to find a more warm reception from the women here.
So now that I have "whined" about it all (and if your still reading. Thanks for hanging in there!). This is my question to any of you that care to offer some suggestions.
As you can see from the title of my post. I am feeling my way around. And not having much luck. What I am looking for is a bar or a club where you are likely to find a girl that is a pro. But with the atmosphere that you are picking her up. Not into the "street girl" thing (if I ever tripped up and brought home a tranny. It would haunt me till the end of my days!) and don't prefer the club where you pop into a room for 30. 60 mins (just don't like the "feel"). I realize the "Beetle Bar" of Costa Rican fame doesn't exist here and I am not expecting to find that. But even in Chicago and Atlanta there are bars you can go into that are frequented by pros but also filled with businessmen and everyday people.
Thanks in advance for any tips!
P.S. And I have read the list posted by World Travel 69 and plan to try some of those tonight. If you have a favorite. Or another option. Let me know!Where to start. All just friendly advice. Thinking critically not being critical. We're all in this together so I'm just trying to help.
1) I noticed is that you said you went home around 1am, with the time line you wrote it sound like you were at the club around 10ish 11ish; is this correct? If it is I'd say you hit the club too early and you should of went to Parque Lleres first. Walked around a bit, tried to find some girls to take to the club, you know some apps and drinks then hop in a cab to the club.
2) Bro come on! Sending a round of drinks to some random group of girls? We're not in 1985 any more. It is actually kind of "creepy" to send over a round to a total group of strange chicks with out having some sort of connection. Chicks respect confidence, correction EVERYBODY respects confidence.
3) You are not going to meet any normal Chicks at Fase 2
4)Your buddy's language skills should be an advantage. Unless you're friend is not funny or charming.
5) If you and your buddy are in your 40's do you look like you're in your 40's?
How do you guys dress? Balding/Grey Hair? Old guy Glasses? Fat/Guts? I know that most of the members will give me hell for this but most "normal" girls in their late teens and early 20's do not want to date their dad; even in South America. It's the truth
MY CLUB ADVICE:
Try to bring girls to the Club with you, If you can't find any get a table and a bottle, Play the roll of "Ballers", invite random girls to the table ect, ANY GIRLS and EVERY GIRLS; it is a numbers game. Be cool, be funny, smile and this is the most important thing DANCE! Get out there and dance, it's is SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU DANCE! If you're not "Handsome" dancing well and being confident will help off set the lack of "Handsome". Speaking of which
If you want to just hang with "normal chicks" it is 100% the same as meeting girls in ANY COUNTRY! Having some loot helps but being cool, fun, confident, and positive is the best advice you're going to get.
Hey guys,
I'm flying into Medellin for Christmas and New Years. Up to 2 weeks is what I am estimating right now. I was thinking of booking a hotel for the first 3 days and looking for the apartment once I get there, around December 27th so that I can see it in person before sending the money. Is it relatively easy to find a decent apartment last minute (for 2 people) given that the new years will be approaching? I was thinking El Poblado, since that sounds like the happening place.
Any recommendations on an apartment?
How much do you expect an apartment to run for 2 people? I don't need anything extravagant, safety and location are my top priority.
Thanks
SlamCity7777
11-14-10, 22:32
The gringo "novelty" is long gone thats if there ever even was one. Gringos are not getting the best reputation in Medellin and I would even go as far as saying "starting to be frowned upon" and as the Kangaroo Man says "Any girl seen with a gringo might be perceived as a prepago" Sad but getting true!I would to offer one small edit
"Any girl seen with a gringo 20+ years older than her with no logical reason for being with this chump gringo might be perceived as a prepago"
Truth Hurts.
Colashermosas
11-14-10, 22:40
Gringos/extranjeros have very good reputation in Medellin and girls seen with them are not at all seen automatically as " prepagos".
We ourselves that draw the obvious conslusion since often are among girls who are, to some extent, "prepagos".
I have visited respectful institutions with intelligent girls.
I have had female friends of different kinds and if it is one thing girls are sensitive about - it´s what other people think, hence few of them would go out with us if this automatically inclined that they were prostitutes.
Stupid prepagos are often young girls who never have had an income and thinks it is cool to make money without working.
The majority of the females, who you really want to spent time with, are harder to get in bed, but on the other hand you don´t have to feel like a weekend babysitter.
Have you tried the dating websites? Its a good way to "penetrate" a girls circle of friends once you make contact with at least one of them.
The gringo "novelty" is long gone thats if there ever even was one. Gringos are not getting the best reputation in Medellin and I would even go as far as saying "starting to be frowned upon" and as the Kangaroo Man says "Any girl seen with a gringo might be perceived as a prepago" Sad but getting true!
Saw this book on Amazon: Men's Guide to Colombia.
Any opinions or reviews?Not having read the book, I'm thinking this website renders this or any book mostly obsolete before it even prints.
If you buy it, check for accuracy here first.
Better yet, save your money & spend it on a cutie when you get here.
I'm willing to bet anything in that book can be found here.
If not, tons of mongers willing to help.
Just a general observation.
Member #4394
11-15-10, 03:15
Just imagine Chinese guys in 40s came to a bar in your town. Will the girls in the bar be very friendly to them? [QUOTE=Sailinaway]I am here with a friend of mine. Staying at the San Fernando Plaza. Went to La Strada last night. Lot's of pretty girls. And LOT's of dudes. It was recommended by a friend of a friend that lives here. What was puzzling was how "unfriendly" the girls were. We were, for the most part, hanging at the bar talking. Doing our own thing. We attempted a few times to talk to girls (we were ignored every time) and sent drinks to two different groups of girls (at the recommendation of the waitress.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-15-10, 03:49
Just imagine Chinese guys in 40s came to a bar in your town. Will the girls in the bar be very friendly to them? [QUOTE=Sailinaway]I am here with a friend of mine. Staying at the San Fernando Plaza. Went to La Strada last night. Lot's of pretty girls. And LOT's of dudes. It was recommended by a friend of a friend that lives here. What was puzzling was how "unfriendly" the girls were. We were, for the most part, hanging at the bar talking. Doing our own thing. We attempted a few times to talk to girls (we were ignored every time) and sent drinks to two different groups of girls (at the recommendation of the waitress.
hahahaha lol, This might be the analogy of the year! I don't know whether to call you a racist bastard or say, "I can kind of see your point" Well if this was in Flushing NY and "guys in 40's came in, well then I would say yes! The girls would be very friendly to them!
Hey guys,
I'm flying into Medellin for Christmas and New Years. Up to 2 weeks is what I am estimating right now. I was thinking of booking a hotel for the first 3 days and looking for the apartment once I get there, around December 27th so that I can see it in person before sending the money. Is it relatively easy to find a decent apartment last minute (for 2 people) given that the new years will be approaching? I was thinking El Poblado, since that sounds like the happening place.
Any recommendations on an apartment?
How much do you expect an apartment to run for 2 people? I don't need anything extravagant, safety and location are my top priority.
Thanks I strongly recommend http://www.theapartmentmedellin.com. Andrew is a good man and he has some nice panty dropping cribs. I'll be staying in one of them again on the 27th. He has studios to 3 bedrooms that range from $75 US to $150 US a night. They're all in Poblado which is safe and close to the best bars and restaurants. You also won't have any problems bringing chicas to the crib because it's like your own home. Up front you pay a reservation deposit of 20% of the total cost of the stay and a $300 US security deposit via Paypal which is returned a couple of days after you check out as long as none of your crazy chicas don't damage anything. It's a good deal and Andrew is trustworthy. Feel free to PM me for more information.
Mr Enternational
11-15-10, 05:14
We were simply looking to meet and have fun with some regular girls from Medellin. My friend is from Honduras and speaks fluent spanish. So I thought that would be a plus. Honestly. It felt like trying to meet girls in any other city (granted there were many more beautiful girls that in most cities. I will say that!) and based on everything I had heard about Medellin. I was hoping to find a more warm reception from the women here.As someone was saying try the dating sites to meet non-pros. Otherwise, if you are trying to cold meet Colombianas then you pretty much have to do it in the day time when you see them working or running errands in public. As you have seen they do not go to nightclubs/discos alone or with just females. There are always males in the group and you can't tell if the males are boyfriends or just friends because they take turns dancing with each other, sitting next to each other, etc. In my observation and experience Colombians (male or female) do not go out in order to meet new people as say we do here in the USA. Their idea of going out is to socialize amongst their pre-existing group of friends. It might be a little work, but once you do get a couple of them into your hip pocket you will not be disappointed.
Member #4394
11-15-10, 08:20
I do not mean to be argumentative, but ethnocentralistic attitude often clouds people's understanding of the situation what is going on. If you are in foreign country, you look very different and your oral and body languages maybe sending unintended signals. Also, your behavior may not be fully in accordance with etiquette in that country. Your situation is not different from Chinese (or whatever) in your country. Some nationalities may be more ethnocentralistic than others, and believe that their values and mode of behavior should be relevant, or even prevalent, in foreign countries. This may cause many things- trade deficit, unpopular gringos who claim to be good looking, and others.
[QUOTE=Matt Psyche]Just imagine Chinese guys in 40s came to a bar in your town. Will the girls in the bar be very friendly to them?
hahahaha lol, This might be the analogy of the year! I don't know whether to call you a racist bastard or say, "I can kind of see your point" Well if this was in Flushing NY and "guys in 40's came in, well then I would say yes! The girls would be very friendly to them!
I simply asked my date to pass both of us a STD test (available at Prado Center, Poblado, Envigado for as low as 40, 000 pesos; results the same day),
I'm interested in getting such a test. Can you or somebody else out there give me an addres?
Mr. Enternational's answer has been the most helpful response to your report so far and I have to reiterate what he said.
It's been said on this forum time and time again so it's not like you have an excuse that you didn't know unless you didn't bother to read the reports (including mine in the past):
This is NOT a country conducive to cold approaches in the evening in bar/club settings. People here go out in mixed groups. Your friend from Honduras is not going to be of much help. You need local male friends. I have several so I hang out with them and it's just a natural process to meet their circle of female friends and so on. Since I'm "vouched for" by a local male, I can bring out my camera and it's almost like they start dancing and smiling just for me. :)
So it can be done, but without the local connection it's an uphill battle with the non-pros. Try the dating sites.
This idea of meeting girls in clubs and bars is something we bring over from the states but this ain't Kansas. Even if you have money and game, it's not going to be easy. Maybe in Bogota, where the women are used to meeting more gringos and foreigners on business or visiting, you might be lucky.
The cold approach actually works better for Americans in some European and Scandinavian countries assuming the age difference is not too much. South America, not so much.
Sandman0011
11-15-10, 14:54
I'm interested in getting such a test. Can you or somebody else out there give me an addres?Any clinica will offer these tests.
Clinica Las Vegas on Ave. Las Vegas across from EAFIT. 2nd floor up the stairs behind the elevators. and;
Clinica Medellin on Av. Poblado next to the Dan Carlton hotel
They are probably the two closest to Poblado
I would to offer one small edit
"Any girl seen with a gringo 20+ years older than her with no logical reason for being with this chump gringo might be perceived as a prepago"
Truth Hurts.
Now that's genius.
BTW, what are the logical reasons why this girl would be this older "chump gringo"?? ... because there's absolutely no way she actually digs him, right?
I date girls in both Colombia and Brazil, 20 years younger, and get along fantastic with them.
I just couldn't imagine going back to dating like age girls, foreign or domestic.
Life gets a lot easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'.
That's my truth.
Hilltopper
11-15-10, 19:13
.....Life gets a lot easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'.
That's my truth.
Well said!
Well said!
Yes I agree with Hilltopper. I've not been to Medellin in 25 years. Plan on going back next year. I do know Robert from the Mansion from back come in the USA. Hope to see him there.
I could care less what anyone thinks when I'm with a chica. I date women 40 years younger than me in Santo Domingo. I have something they want( money ) they have something I want plus I'm fluent in Spanish and dance Latin music very well.
I usually post on the DR board.
Now that's genius.
BTW, what are the logical reasons why this girl would be this older "chump gringo"?? ... because there's absolutely no way she actually digs him, right?
I date girls in both Colombia and Brazil, 20 years younger, and get along fantastic with them.
I just couldn't imagine going back to dating like age girls, foreign or domestic.
Life gets a lot easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'.
That's my truth.I have to agree with you Ricker. I'm 41 and my novia is 21. I guess this means she only wants money, gifts and a green card. I guess I'm only looking for sex from a hot, young Paisa and I want to control a young girl. It's amazing how people that have never met you or your novia will automatically pass judgement on your relationship. Me and my novia don't discuss our age difference and we have a good laugh at the stupid things people say about us. We get along great and we have a lot in common (same favorite color, food, both left handed, etc.). My advice is to follow your heart and do what pleases you. Regardless of whether your relationship is considered conventional or unconventional there will always be people out there that will talk shit about you.
SlamCity7777
11-16-10, 13:06
Now that's genius.
BTW, what are the logical reasons why this girl would be this older "chump gringo"?? ... because there's absolutely no way she actually digs him, right?
I date girls in both Colombia and Brazil, 20 years younger, and get along fantastic with them.
I just couldn't imagine going back to dating like age girls, foreign or domestic.
Life gets a lot easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'.
That's my truth.Yep I expected this sort of reaction.
If my post offended or hit a bit close to home for anyone that was not my intent.
There are exceptions to the rule. Maybe some of you are among the lucky few who have "it" with the ladies and are able to pull amazingly beautiful women because of who you are, what you look like, and how you treat them. The majority of men do not have "it" and when you see of a 20something beautiful girl with a 45-65 year old guy there is a CHANCE that she's in it for the "right" reasons. Not likely but there is that chance.
I agree that "life gets easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'. "
Enjoy you truth in what ever form you want to 'perceive' it fellas.
Shark Bait
11-16-10, 16:05
Now that's genius.
BTW, what are the logical reasons why this girl would be this older "chump gringo"?? ... because there's absolutely no way she actually digs him, right?
I date girls in both Colombia and Brazil, 20 years younger, and get along fantastic with them.
I just couldn't imagine going back to dating like age girls, foreign or domestic.
Life gets a lot easier when ya stop giving a hoot what anyone 'perceives'.
That's my truth.You said it perfectly. Too many people with too many opinions. I like younger women and even before I came to Colombia I dated younger women in the states and I don't care what the others had to say. I think some of the people are just jealous. Enjoy it while you can.
Yep I expected this sort of reaction.
If my post offended or hit a bit close to home for anyone that was not my intent.
There are exceptions to the rule. Maybe some of you are among the lucky few who have "it" with the ladies and are able to pull amazingly beautiful women because of who you are, what you look like, and how you treat them. The majority of men do not have "it" and when you see of a 20something beautiful girl with a 45-65 year old guy there is a CHANCE that she's in it for the "right" reasons. Not likely but there is that chance ...
Well thank goodness that, 'though it's not likely, there is a chance' that a younger girl could actually like being with a guy a bit older.
Of course lots of chicas hang with older guys for reasons beyond attraction or what you call the 'right' reasons ... duhhhhhhhhhh.
We all know that. This is not new.
There are, however, lots of girls too, especially in Latin America, where it's much more culturally accepted, that really do dig the older guy, whether you believe it or not.
I've been dating these girls for quite a while and it's just not that difficult to weed out the genuine from the not.
If I'm with a girl that's with me for a little money and gifts, big deal.
She knows it, I know it, we just have fun.
When I'm with a girl that's with me 'cause she digs with me, and it's pretty easy to tell, so much the better.
And how about the girl thats initially hangin' with ya for not your 'right' reasons and then she really does start to dig you??
Seen that happen too.
So many types of girls and personalities and circumstances and easy to read signs from these chicas that IMHO, generalizing about it is just ignorant.
As long as ya know what you're dealing with, and your not hurting anyone or being a fool, it's all cool.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-16-10, 19:20
As long as ya know what you're dealing with, and your not hurting anyone or being a fool, it's all cool.
As long as you know what your getting yourself into and are NOT "trying to cover the sun with one finger" More power to you.
Being naive or a fool about is another thing though and believe me, any regular "seasoned" monger will tell you horror story after horror story even after the warnings by close friends.
Hey you made your bed now sleep in it I say.
Hey Slam, though I don't completely agree with you on your opinions of girls dating older guys, I really dig this post of yours from earlier, thought I'd re-quote it here.
... Most importantly her perception of you has changed; from Cool-Guy to Never-going to-sleep with him ever-Guy ...
Funny LMAO post.
... I have learned that the quickest way to a girls heart(Pussy, moth, and booty hole if that's you thing) is:
1) Dancing 2) Don't be cheap/Don't appear cheap 3) Get her kids on your side or show you're cool with her kids even if you're not.
Just my two cents. When trying to pick up chicks(Foreign and or Domestic) keep it positive. Positive energy and attitude. If you get all defensive and combative you'll be enjoying your plain cheese pizza by yourself after you wank one out instead of cleaning up your load off of her back! LOL!
Great advice!!
As long as you know what your getting yourself into and are NOT "trying to cover the sun with one finger" More power to you.
Being naive or a fool about is another thing though and believe me, any regular "seasoned" monger will tell you horror story after horror story even after the warnings by close friends.
Hey you made your bed now sleep in it I say.
Yep, and those stories have no age boundries.
I've seen guys in their 20's to 60's regretting foolish mistakes.
You said it perfectly. Too many people with too many opinions. I like younger women and even before I came to Colombia I dated younger women in the states and I don't care what the others had to say. I think some of the people are just jealous. Enjoy it while you can.Hey Shark Bait,
I just notice today that Bibiana has changed her Facebook status to "married"
Nothing that you need to tell us is there hermano? LOL
SlamCity7777
11-17-10, 00:02
Hey Slam, though I don't completely agree with you on your opinions of girls dating older guys, I really dig this post of yours from earlier, thought I'd re-quote it here.
Funny LMAO post.
Great advice!!Praise from Caesar!! I thank you sir, very kind of you! I always enjoy your posts as well and please continue to do so.
Da Kine Kid
11-17-10, 00:11
This is NOT a country conducive to cold approaches in the evening in bar/club settings. People here go out in mixed groups. Your friend from Honduras is not going to be of much help. You need local male friends. I have several so I hang out with them and it's just a natural process to meet their circle of female friends and so on. Since I'm "vouched for" by a local male, I can bring out my camera and it's almost like they start dancing and smiling just for me.This is true everywhere, but IMHO, especially so in Latin America. "Social proof" is a real big thing and you'll be amazed how the chicas open up to you when you can be "vouched" for by their friends or acquaintances. That's when you'll really see the warm, open, non-shy latina spirit that everyone talks about.
This last weekend Bibiana did manage to change her Mansion status. No longer banned and on good behavior (no drinking!)
Took her to dinner Saturday night after a session and was pleasantly surprised to see her order water so instead of that I bought her a virgin pina colada. Although she's working hard on her English, she wasn't familiar with the term "virgin".
Reef
I just notice today that Bibiana has changed her Facebook status to "married"
Gents,
I first went to Medellin when the exchange of $1 USD was about $2, 500 COP. Currently the exchange is hovering around $1, 800 COP.
I have asked many people including Colombians what the Colombian pesos is based on or against that props it up so well against the dollar. I have never been given a satisfactory answer. And how could they answer? It really is not Colombia doing well that has caused the devaluation, it's the American deficit that is causing the problem.
Actually all along though I have known that America's financial troubles keeps the dollar weak against many foreign currencies. So I was actually happy to see that Obama had the foresite to appoint a commision to point out some hard to swallow facts and recommendations to get out house in financial order.
It frankly acknowledges what most politicians are too cowardly to admit — that deficit reduction will require shared sacrifice.
Although the commission, headed by Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson, points out that road to recovery is a long and tough one, I would be ever so grateful if the days of the USD exchange would once again hover ever so close to the 2003 high of nearly $3,000 COP to $1 USD.
Then maybe I would cave in and pay independent girls in Medellin the seemingly average asking rate of $150,000 COP for an hour (which I refuse to pay currently).
This an excerpt of a newsletter released today:
Everybody wants to get America's fiscal house in order, but few are willing to embrace the painful steps necessary to accomplish that.
If Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson didn't already know that, they are learning it now in the wake of the release of a partial draft of their plan to reduce the national debt and deficit.
Bowles is a Democrat from North Carolina and the outgoing president of the UNC system. Simpson is a Republican and a distinguished former senator from Wyoming. They are the co-chairmen of President Obama's bipartisan Debt Commission.
Cuts Will Take Courage
The Bowles-Simpson report recommends about $1 trillion in new revenue that would be accompanied by $2. 2 trillion in spending cuts and almost $700 billion in interest savings over 10 years.
From the Democratic side, outgoing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the AFL-CIO? Rejected the Bowles-Simpson draft because of those spending cuts and the proposed steps to get Social Security under control.
Short-Term Pain, Long-Term Gain
The report notes that a gasoline tax increase of 15 cents per gallon, though not popular, would generate billions in extra revenue and put more pressure on America to reduce our out-of-control demand for oil, most of it foreign.
It is questionable if the suggested cut of $100 billion in military spending would affect our readiness and create trickle-down economic hardship. However, it would do wonders for the budget, while helping America to face the fact that it can't keep playing the role of world policeman.
Getting Social Security expenses under control by things like higher retirement ages and lower cost-of-living adjustments would require belt-tightening in millions of American homes that are already under a strain. But more importantly it could also help assure the fiscal survival of a program whose current road to collapse by 2037 would create infinitely more suffering.
Bowles and Simpson aren't saying any of this would be easy. But instead of finding fault with their ideas, we should all be thanking them for having the courage to tell us unwelcome things that we need to hear.
Sorry for the distraction but I was kinda getting bored with retoric currently being rehashed on this thread.
However it is something to think about since it seems across the board that it is costing more and more pesos to keep these Paisas happy.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Shark Bait
11-17-10, 14:20
Hey Shark Bait,
I just notice today that Bibiana has changed her Facebook status to "married"
Nothing that you need to tell us is there hermano? LOLLOL, I can asure you that I am not married to her and I do not send money to her.
Shark Bait
11-17-10, 14:55
This chic would be a great one to hook up with. I spent the day with the news crew from Bogota and a friend of mine and my son. She is agreat girl with no attitude and I only wish I could say I slept with her.
My trip ended yesterday and I just had the most amazing time of my life. It surely came at an expense but life is short. So what I helped out a few beauties of Medellin.
My trip included 3 very amazing live sex shows in the Mansion lobby. I met the best group of guys I have met so far in my trips to the Mansion. We all enjoyed and most of us guys were like minded people who were all ready to enjoy life to the fullest. Greg at the Mansion and his staff were all very accomodating and all of them made my trip an ever lasting experience of my life.
I have decided not to post any more details of the trip as it seems like people are more interested in how much I paid and do not have interest in the particular experiences. My sincere thanks to all those who have helped me in the past and I would certainly try and reply to all PMs sent to me.
Regards,
John.
My trip ended yesterday and I just had the most amazing time of my life. It surely came at an expense but life is short. So what I helped out a few beauties of Medellin.
My trip included 3 very amazing live sex shows in the Mansion lobby. I met the best group of guys I have met so far in my trips to the Mansion. We all enjoyed and most of us guys were like minded people who were all ready to enjoy life to the fullest. Greg at the Mansion and his staff were all very accomodating and all of them made my trip an ever lasting experience of my life.
I have decided not to post any more details of the trip as it seems like people are more interested in how much I paid and do not have interest in the particular experiences. My sincere thanks to all those who have helped me in the past and I would certainly try and reply to all PMs sent to me.
Regards,
John.John you have to have thick skin here on the Medellin board, dont take things personally. With 100k members there will be different opinions. Suck it up champ.
1St time there. Per previous poster's suggestion, got there a little after midnight. Still pretty empty. Lotta silicone! What's almost unsettling to look at is the butts on some of these women: I thought they were going to drop road apples as they walked away, they looked like horses.
Plenty of hotties to get my attention, though. Had a hard time choosing between three.
Chose shantall after she danced, a blonde bombshell with perfect after market boobies.
I thought for sure she'd be scooped up by someone else as she made her way through the crowd for tips.
Turns out she wanted 170k cop, I asked her what happened to 150k, she mumbled something but by then I was thinking with the wrong head, thought that's ten bucks more, what the hell.
Did not regret it. Nothing better than a chica that's got the body AND knows how to use it. Pics coming.
On the way out I saw THREE more cuties that apparently had just gotten there that will have me back today or tomorrow looking for them.
Pricy but worth it.
Legal Tender
11-17-10, 22:17
Gents,
I first went to Medellin when the exchange of $1 USD was about $2, 500 COP. Currently the exchange is hovering around $1, 800 COP.
I have asked many people including Colombians what the Colombian pesos is based on or against that props it up so well against the dollar. I have never been given a satisfactory answer. And how could they answer? It really is not Colombia doing well that has caused the devaluation, it's the American deficit that is causing the problem.
Actually all along though I have known that America's financial troubles keeps the dollar weak against many foreign currencies. So I was actually happy to see that Obama had the foresite to appoint a commision to point out some hard to swallow facts and recommendations to get out house in financial order.
Cheers,
Cubanut
The pathetic state of the U.S. economy certainly impacts the relative value of the dollar, but the dynamics are more than meet the eye. More specifically, we are approaching the same model that many countries used during the great depression. And that is a devaluation of their respective currencies.
The U.S. dollar has been, and still is the safe haven currency for the world. Most commodities, such as oil (Colombia is the third or forth largest oil producer in S. America) coffee and cut flowers are all paid for in dollars. The U.S. is reducing the relative value of the dollar so U.S. produced goods will be less expensive and thus create a greater demand. While the cost of Colombian pussy is greater with a weak dollar, U.S. manufactured goods are less expensive for Colombians.
The U.S., we all agree must get its financial house in order. Which segment of the society will be called upon to make the most sacrifice is where the rubber meets the road. Unquestionably, in the last 20 years the percentage of wealth owned by the top 2 or 3 percent has grown exponentially. What is inexplicable to me is the notion that increased revenue via fees and taxes are required for equilibration is lost on the conservatives. The International Monetary Fund (IMF), which the U.S. controls, routinely requires debtor nations to enact draconian tax requirements on its citizens.
Open Veins of Latin America was written by Eduardo Galeano in Uruguay in 1971. I highly recommend it for those who are interested in learning about the countries that we enjoy. Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez gave President Barack Obama a Spanish copy of Open Veins of Latin America as a gift at the 5th Summit of the Americas. In Open Veins of Latin America Galeano analyzes the history of Latin America as a whole from the time period of the European discovery of the New World to contemporary Latin America, arguing against European and later US economic exploitation and political dominance over the region.
At bottom, over 70% of U.S. Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is from consumer spending. The average citizen in the U.S. is up to his or her eye balls in debt. And all of this consumption was "on credit." So, our stuff has to be cheap enough to sell to the world. That's why we have an ever decreasing dollar. We can't buy "their" shit anymore. We're broke!
Only good energy!
The level of bickering on this forum is incredibly petty and self-indulgent, equivalent of 5th grade girls fighting over who the star quarterback likes.
To the critics: Guys what does it matter what John pays? He's clearly impressed with Medellin for his first trip and perhaps overtly so, but we all been there. In any case, what he chooses to pay the other girls is his business and in the end inconsequential.
Financial markets demonstrates that:
1. When a trader offers a rogue price, he either gets swallowed up by sharks until he's out of liquidity, or provides provides so much liquidity that a new market equilibrium is reached.
2. History have shown that it's impossible to stem the progress of information. No matter what you do, you can't stop a unfamiliar noob from making pricing mistakes in a new market, and if there's enough of them, eventually it moves the market. So if anything you should encourage them to figure out what the fair price is and get there quickly. Noobs either quickly learn that they're throwing money away or that they're really paying a new "fair efficient" price and vets have to pony up or go elsewhere.
Look we all want things back the way they were 3 or 5 years ago, where the streets are lined with hundreds of beautiful and cheap chicas whether in Medellin or Costa Rica. But the simple fact is that they will never be the same, and you should just get over and accept it.
To John:
Dude I wish you the best of luck in your personal endeavors, whether you decide to personally marry the girl and have gang-bang with her and 15 of your friends. You're right in that it is entirely your personal choice.
But this board is not really appropriate (oh the irony) place to post your sappy puppy-love goddess-worshipping love letters to a provider. Stick to the facts and use less romeo/julietesque verbiage. Feel free to contact her personally to discuss your feelings and/or post them on MyLoveForYouIsEternal.com. If you wrote the same adoring post about your wife you'd get the same reaction, it's just not the content this board is interested in.
Really this board is mainly interested in hobbying and mongering, like really. In any case, after your sixth trip to Medellin you'll probably look back on your initial posts and laugh.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-18-10, 00:23
John you have to have thick skin here on the Medellin board, dont take things personally. With 100k members there will be different opinions. Suck it up champ.
ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa, BINGO!! Freaking Pato's!
Currency fluctuations are far more complex than some selective articles on broad macro-economic policies.
Any suggestions to whether U.S is still a dominant global player are largely ridiculous. Emerging market currencies generally tend to do well against time assuming they're regulated by the free market because they can develop at a faster rate than an already developed country.
Some evidence to U.S still being an economic superpower:
1. Look how far stock markets tumble back when U.S was in deep recession/crises, vs. how far the're currently tumbling when Europe countries are in a far deeper crisis.
2. Observe the spot rate historical trends between U.S and established currencies such as GBP and EURO.
Hilltopper
11-18-10, 02:01
ha haaaaaaaaaaaaa, BINGO!! Freaking Pato's!
You've already busted the guys chops in a previous post, do you really have to go and call him a queer? He lives his own life and makes his own decisions about which chica he wants to bone and how he chooses to spend his money, is there really anything wrong with that?
On a side note, your posts remind me of a guy who posted as Paisa/Calena/Luver on the old PHB. Dude lived to bust other people's chops. Could you possibly originally be from NY or thereabouts where bustin' a another guy's balls is commonplace?
You're probably a cool guy and good man, just have a more confrontational posting style compared to an aw-shucks hick from the hills like me. Don't mean to cross you, just thought I'd throw something back at ya for a little sport. :) Hell, my trip to Colombia got re-scheduled and I'm here in the States bored, as I tip my bourbon...salud!
All the best to you....and to each his own.
Hilltopper
MiamiHeatLuver
11-18-10, 02:25
You've already busted the guys chops in a previous post, do you really have to go and call him a queer?
Hilltopper
Pato does NOT mean queer, it means pathetic, get your Colombian lingo slang down man. je je
Hilltopper
11-18-10, 02:27
Pato does NOT mean queer, it means pathetic, get your Colombian lingo slang down man. je je
Gay in Puerto Rico, pathetic in Colombia....nonetheless, can ya ease up on a guy? Oh, and bye the way, thanks for educating me on the different meaning in Colombia---much appreciated!
MiamiHeatLuver
11-18-10, 02:39
Gay in Puerto Rico, pathetic in Colombia....nonetheless, can ya ease up on a guy? Oh, and bye the way, thanks for educating me on the different meaning in Colombia---much appreciated!
I am originally from NYC and yes we are a little cynical and obnoxious but that's what makes us so unique. We keep it real! My reply in Mr Gogo's post was not a direct swipe at John, who really cares what he does but more of a affirming of what señor Gogo stated to have some thicker skin and debate with posters of all opinions. Nuff Said!
Member #4394
11-18-10, 02:42
Have any of you had shots for Hepatitis A or B?
Do you recommend that I will have shots before coming to Medellin?
I have been to Medellin 3 times, but I am thinking about having shots this time. I would appreciate any suggestions about preventive measures.
Hilltopper
11-18-10, 02:47
I am originally from NYC and yes we are a little cynical and obnoxious but that's what makes us so unique. We keep it real! My reply in Mr Gogo's post was not a direct swipe at John, who really cares what he does but more of a affirming of what señor Gogo stated to have some thicker skin and debate with posters of all opinions. Nuff Said!
Fair enough...just havin' a little fun with ya. Hopefully John catches on to the different personalities. Keep it unique....and I hope mongers here can do the same. Freakin' boring as hell if we were all the same. Hey, reminds me that most of us are here 'cause we like the variety, lol.
I will go ahead and post my report as I think it is in best interest of the board and who cares what few member thinks......
I personally arranged 2 lesbian shows at the Mansion lobby. All of the guys pitched in about 40,000 to 50,000 pesos each. The show included a new bi-sexual girl by name of Andrea/Alexandria she was newly added to the Mansion by Boyd. In my opinion although she is not as hot as Bibiana but she is just an amazing addition to the Mansion. The show with Bibiana and Andrea was so amazing to watch. IMHO Bibiana has met her match as instead of Bibiana taking control of the show, the new girl Andrea was in complete control of the show. She just rammed the beautiful Bibiana's pussy and ASS together with a DILDO. In the end both of them came. Oh my gosh just looking at Bibiana on the Mansion lobby floor being rimmed is a sight never to be forgotten. It is just affixed in my memory.
Second lesbian show was between Andrea/Alexandra and Sandra (I think her name) she is the famous squirter at the Mansion. The squirter is not that great looking a girl but she has a nice hard body. This show lasted about 40 minutes. One of the fellow monger was so excited after he saw the show that he walked in pouring rain to the ATM machine came back and had a session with the squirter. In my fellow mongers words when the squirter came on him it felt to him like somebody poured hot cup of coffee on him. According to this fellow monger he slept all night in a bed full of cum.
Those who received Mansion Newsletter of November 14, 2010. 3 of the 6 girls on that newsletter were introduced to the Mansion by me. Eliana, Lina and Lucy. I had to pay premium money to bring them to the Mansion for the first time and now all of those who visit Mansion can enjoy their company at Mansion prices. In my opinion Eliana will not become a Mansion girl on regular basis but she could be one of those on call girls. It is just my opinion but you never know about these girls. Lina and Lucy have joined the Mansion permanently.
Mansion girls were all simply great for the day session and I had a great time with most of them. Greg, boyd and Mark all at the Mansion took great care of me. One morning Boyd walked in and told five members sitting at the Mansion Pool that one girl who is at the Mansion has had bad reviews and that he is warning us about her. This girl has natural D cup boobs. She just has an amazing body.
I replied to Boyd that if this girl has such bad reputation why is this girl at the Mansion. Boyd replied that Greg allows her to be at the Mansion. Few minutes later Greg walks in at the Mansion Pool and says to all of us guys that one of us should try this girl and give him a review. I think Greg must have talked to her as well. Now all of us 6 or 7 guys at the Mansion Pool are looking at each other and thinking who wants to take one for the team. Well I talked to this girl straight up and asked her if all this talk about her bad service is true and if I was to take her will she provide BBBJ and I like deep french kissing and long fucks. She said to me she will do her best. All in all she did more than the best any other Mansion girl ever provided to me. It was like she was on a mission to prove Boyd wrong. Mansion girls really preferred by me (JOANA BLOND HAIR, BIBIANA, MARCELA {NEW GIRL SHE IS IN BOGOTA FOR FEW DAYS}, TATIANA/CAMILA, CAROLINA {JIMENA SISTER}, JIMENA AND LAIDY{TALL BLACK HAIR, NICE NATURAL BOOBS AND NICE ASS}, last but the most amazing of them all is an 18 year old girl by name of Monika who is a mansion girl but I saw her in romance latina. This girl is an amazing fuck and provides great BBBJ. For all night action I picked few girls from Lindas Chicas and few were from Romance Latina as well.
It was not easy spending the amount of money I spent in Medellin, on my last day it was raining and I paid girls 50,000 pesos just to go skinny dipping in the Mansion pool while it was 67 degree F temperature and it was raining. The Mansion pool was covered from top with the black colored cloth they have but sure enough rain was pouring. Boy it was fun watching these beauties jump in that pool. After few minutes of watching these beauties in the Mansion Pool, I got to see them taking a shower and kissing them when they were coming out of the Pool.
Lastly, Just to bust those penny pinchers balls, I spent US$ 9,500 in my 14 days trip to Medellin. Out of that US$ 2,500 was paid for accomodation at Mansion and for my air ticket. Bottom line US$ 6,000 average of approx US$ 450 per day was spent on girls as follows. Every day I was doing 2 girls in the afternoon and 1 girl overnight. The overnight girl stayed from 8 pm to 8 am with multiple pops and cost me about US$ 200 to US$ 250 and short session girls with tips cost me about US$ 90 each or 150,000 pesos plus 10,000 to 20,000 pesos tip. Rest money was spent on sex shows and some other fun stuff.
My last sentence is for those mongers who call others PATO, I just feel sorry for you as your thinking process is beyond cheap. It is just obnoxious. Yes go ahead keep on telling me that you can have the same girls for less then what I pay to these girls, but please understand that I pay to them more because I chose to pay them. Just think of it as a gift to these beautiful girls of Medellin. My friends once again to each his own.
Regards,
John.
Excellent trip report John, imformative, honest and detailed.
I guess your skin is thicker than I thought. LMAO.
The USA dollar has been, and still is the safe haven currency for the world. Most commodities, such as oil (Colombia is the third or forth largest oil producer in S. America) coffee and cut flowers are all paid for in dollars. The USA is reducing the relative value of the dollar so USA produced goods will be less expensive and thus create a greater demand. While the cost of Colombian pussy is greater with a weak dollar, USA manufactured goods are less expensive for Colombians. Only good energy!Legal Tender,
True, the US intentionally weakens the dollar but how can this create "greater" demand for US products in Colombia when the Colombian imposes tariffs on American made/produced products?
A few examples:
* Colombian flowers – a major Colombian export – may enter the American market without paying any tariffs at all, but USA.made fertilizer, used to help the flowers grow, is assessed a 15-percent tariff when exported to Colombia.
* Colombian carrots imported to the United States market face no tariff, but a tractor made with USA parts by USA union labor is subject to a 10-percent tariff when sold to the Colombian carrot farmers.
* Colombian bananas face no tariffs in the United States, but a USA.grown apple is subject to a 15-percent tariff when sold in Colombia.
* I Personally used to see electronics in the malls in Colombia at twice the amount as what the cost was in the USA. Now grant it that was back in 2005 and I didn't know which products were from the USA Currently the prices have dropped significantly but still are more expensive to buy in Colombia.
Etc, etc. But hopefully one gets the picture.
How is this fair trade?
At the same time:
Colombia is now the biggest recipient of USA aid outside of the Middle East and Afghanistan.
USA foreign aid to Colombia totals about $750 million a year.
Since 2000, USA aid to Colombia has totaled over $6 billion.
Hey look, all I was trying to say is that I hoped our elected officials would be instrumental in us mongers getting more pesos for our dollar.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Mhl keep being cynical and obnoxious, thats what keeps us in check. Always be you, I love it. Its all about stepping up our game as John just did, no fear. People talk about the bull shit on this board but we all got some real dude in us, sometimes it takes adversity to bring us out. Its all good. Brothers fight, but when we chase pussy were together no matter how much we pay.
Have any of you had shots for Hepatitis A or B?
Do you recommend that I will have shots before coming to Medellin?
I have been to Medellin 3 times, but I am thinking about having shots this time. I would appreciate any suggestions about preventive measures.Three shots spaced over six months. Get them on your 'Yellow Card'. Get every other shot while you're at it. How the hell are you pursuing this hobby having not done this right from the start?
john, once again i enjoyed your report. i guess you were unable to track down lauritapar from rl? i haven't been in touch with her either lately but hope she is available for me once again when i come down, i will try to find out what is up with that chica.
and yes i also found rl monika surprisingly good, i needed the bed nailed to the floor and mattress glued to the bed!
my 2c on the money issue: i agree it is your money and your business and to each his own. myself i am more of a mid-range guy and don't find the need or desire to be as generous as you are, but i am splurging a bit on one of the nicer rooms at cb2 with jacuzzi. in any case if at some point i get priced out of a certain destination or venue due to price increases, dollar weakness, or drop in my own earning power, then i make do and find what i need elsewhere, such is life. every monger rolls a little or a lot different, different means, preferences, and priorities. my only peeve generally about style is with guys i see or read about that have abusive asshole attitudes and treat the girls accordingly.
good luck.
My trip ended yesterday and I just had the most amazing time of my life. It surely came at an expense but life is short. So what I helped out a few beauties of Medellin ...
Nice Mansion report John!
Obviosly you had an amazing time there.
What you spent there, big deal.
You were on a high roller vacation at the Mansion (CB) and enjoying.
Medellin and it's Paisas can obviously be had for much less, but at different venues and more hunting, etc.
The only problem is, you'll be going through 'withdrawals' soon if not already and want to get back to Medellin as soon as possible.
That's where the budgeting comes in, so you can return as often as possible.
Taker easy amigo, thanks again for the report.
Aussie Greg
11-18-10, 17:07
Great report John,
Very interested in the figures, I have a question mate ¨how many liters of cum did you deliver¨!!! regards.
A.G.
I will go ahead and post my report as I think it is in best interest of the board and who cares what few member thinks......
I personally arranged 2 lesbian shows at the Mansion lobby. All of the guys pitched in about 40,000 to 50,000 pesos each. The show included a new bi-sexual girl by name of Andrea/Alexandria she was newly added to the Mansion by Boyd. In my opinion although she is not as hot as Bibiana but she is just an amazing addition to the Mansion. The show with Bibiana and Andrea was so amazing to watch. IMHO Bibiana has met her match as instead of Bibiana taking control of the show, the new girl Andrea was in complete control of the show. She just rammed the beautiful Bibiana's pussy and ASS together with a DILDO. In the end both of them came. Oh my gosh just looking at Bibiana on the Mansion lobby floor being rimmed is a sight never to be forgotten. It is just affixed in my memory.
Second lesbian show was between Andrea/Alexandra and Sandra (I think her name) she is the famous squirter at the Mansion. The squirter is not that great looking a girl but she has a nice hard body. This show lasted about 40 minutes. One of the fellow monger was so excited after he saw the show that he walked in pouring rain to the ATM machine came back and had a session with the squirter. In my fellow mongers words when the squirter came on him it felt to him like somebody poured hot cup of coffee on him. According to this fellow monger he slept all night in a bed full of cum.
Those who received Mansion Newsletter of November 14, 2010. 3 of the 6 girls on that newsletter were introduced to the Mansion by me. Eliana, Lina and Lucy. I had to pay premium money to bring them to the Mansion for the first time and now all of those who visit Mansion can enjoy their company at Mansion prices. In my opinion Eliana will not become a Mansion girl on regular basis but she could be one of those on call girls. It is just my opinion but you never know about these girls. Lina and Lucy have joined the Mansion permanently.
Mansion girls were all simply great for the day session and I had a great time with most of them. Greg, boyd and Mark all at the Mansion took great care of me. One morning Boyd walked in and told five members sitting at the Mansion Pool that one girl who is at the Mansion has had bad reviews and that he is warning us about her. This girl has natural D cup boobs. She just has an amazing body.
I replied to Boyd that if this girl has such bad reputation why is this girl at the Mansion. Boyd replied that Greg allows her to be at the Mansion. Few minutes later Greg walks in at the Mansion Pool and says to all of us guys that one of us should try this girl and give him a review. I think Greg must have talked to her as well. Now all of us 6 or 7 guys at the Mansion Pool are looking at each other and thinking who wants to take one for the team. Well I talked to this girl straight up and asked her if all this talk about her bad service is true and if I was to take her will she provide BBBJ and I like deep french kissing and long fucks. She said to me she will do her best. All in all she did more than the best any other Mansion girl ever provided to me. It was like she was on a mission to prove Boyd wrong. Mansion girls really preferred by me (JOANA BLOND HAIR, BIBIANA, MARCELA {NEW GIRL SHE IS IN BOGOTA FOR FEW DAYS}, TATIANA/CAMILA, CAROLINA {JIMENA SISTER}, JIMENA AND LAIDY{TALL BLACK HAIR, NICE NATURAL BOOBS AND NICE ASS}, last but the most amazing of them all is an 18 year old girl by name of Monika who is a mansion girl but I saw her in romance latina. This girl is an amazing fuck and provides great BBBJ. For all night action I picked few girls from Lindas Chicas and few were from Romance Latina as well.
It was not easy spending the amount of money I spent in Medellin, on my last day it was raining and I paid girls 50,000 pesos just to go skinny dipping in the Mansion pool while it was 67 degree F temperature and it was raining. The Mansion pool was covered from top with the black colored cloth they have but sure enough rain was pouring. Boy it was fun watching these beauties jump in that pool. After few minutes of watching these beauties in the Mansion Pool, I got to see them taking a shower and kissing them when they were coming out of the Pool.
Lastly, Just to bust those penny pinchers balls, I spent US$ 9,500 in my 14 days trip to Medellin. Out of that US$ 2,500 was paid for accomodation at Mansion and for my air ticket. Bottom line US$ 6,000 average of approx US$ 450 per day was spent on girls as follows. Every day I was doing 2 girls in the afternoon and 1 girl overnight. The overnight girl stayed from 8 pm to 8 am with multiple pops and cost me about US$ 200 to US$ 250 and short session girls with tips cost me about US$ 90 each or 150,000 pesos plus 10,000 to 20,000 pesos tip. Rest money was spent on sex shows and some other fun stuff.
My last sentence is for those mongers who call others PATO, I just feel sorry for you as your thinking process is beyond cheap. It is just obnoxious. Yes go ahead keep on telling me that you can have the same girls for less then what I pay to these girls, but please understand that I pay to them more because I chose to pay them. Just think of it as a gift to these beautiful girls of Medellin. My friends once again to each his own.
Regards,
John.
OrientalExpress
11-18-10, 17:10
Have any of you had shots for Hepatitis A or B?
Do you recommend that I will have shots before coming to Medellin?
I have been to Medellin 3 times, but I am thinking about having shots this time. I would appreciate any suggestions about preventive measures.Definitely, you should it. In SA. Hep. A or S is common. And for mongering, you may need more than that.
OrientalExpress
11-18-10, 17:14
I will go ahead and post my report as I think it is in best interest of the board and who cares what few member thinks.
I personally arranged 2 lesbian shows at the Mansion lobby. All of the guys pitched in about 40,000 to 50,000 pesos each. The show included a new bi-sexual girl by name of Andrea/Alexandria she was newly added to the Mansion by Boyd. In my opinion although she is not as hot as Bibiana but she is just an amazing addition to the Mansion. The show with Bibiana and Andrea was so amazing to watch. IMHO Bibiana has met her match as instead of Bibiana taking control of the show, the new girl Andrea was in complete control of the show. She just rammed the beautiful Bibiana's pussy and ASS together with a DILDO. In the end both of them came. Oh my gosh just looking at Bibiana on the Mansion lobby floor being rimmed is a sight never to be forgotten. It is just affixed in my memory.
Second lesbian show was between Andrea/Alexandra and Sandra (I think her name) she is the famous squirter at the Mansion. The squirter is not that great looking a girl but she has a nice hard body. This show lasted about 40 minutes. One of the fellow monger was so excited after he saw the show that he walked in pouring rain to the ATM machine came back and had a session with the squirter. In my fellow mongers words when the squirter came on him it felt to him like somebody poured hot cup of coffee on him. According to this fellow monger he slept all night in a bed full of cum.
Those who received Mansion Newsletter of November 14, 2010. 3 of the 6 girls on that newsletter were introduced to the Mansion by me. Eliana, Lina and Lucy. I had to pay premium money to bring them to the Mansion for the first time and now all of those who visit Mansion can enjoy their company at Mansion prices. In my opinion Eliana will not become a Mansion girl on regular basis but she could be one of those on call girls. It is just my opinion but you never know about these girls. Lina and Lucy have joined the Mansion permanently.
Mansion girls were all simply great for the day session and I had a great time with most of them. Greg, boyd and Mark all at the Mansion took great care of me. One morning Boyd walked in and told five members sitting at the Mansion Pool that one girl who is at the Mansion has had bad reviews and that he is warning us about her. This girl has natural D cup boobs. She just has an amazing body.
I replied to Boyd that if this girl has such bad reputation why is this girl at the Mansion. Boyd replied that Greg allows her to be at the Mansion. Few minutes later Greg walks in at the Mansion Pool and says to all of us guys that one of us should try this girl and give him a review. I think Greg must have talked to her as well. Now all of us 6 or 7 guys at the Mansion Pool are looking at each other and thinking who wants to take one for the team. Well I talked to this girl straight up and asked her if all this talk about her bad service is true and if I was to take her will she provide BBBJ and I like deep french kissing and long fucks. She said to me she will do her best. All in all she did more than the best any other Mansion girl ever provided to me. It was like she was on a mission to prove Boyd wrong. Mansion girls really preferred by me (JOANA BLOND HAIR, BIBIANA, MARCELA {NEW GIRL SHE IS IN BOGOTA FOR FEW DAYS}, TATIANA/CAMILA, CAROLINA {JIMENA SISTER}, JIMENA AND LAIDY{TALL BLACK HAIR, NICE NATURAL BOOBS AND NICE ASS}, last but the most amazing of them all is an 18 year old girl by name of Monika who is a mansion girl but I saw her in romance latina. This girl is an amazing fuck and provides great BBBJ. For all night action I picked few girls from Lindas Chicas and few were from Romance Latina as well.
It was not easy spending the amount of money I spent in Medellin, on my last day it was raining and I paid girls 50,000 pesos just to go skinny dipping in the Mansion pool while it was 67 degree F temperature and it was raining. The Mansion pool was covered from top with the black colored cloth they have but sure enough rain was pouring. Boy it was fun watching these beauties jump in that pool. After few minutes of watching these beauties in the Mansion Pool, I got to see them taking a shower and kissing them when they were coming out of the Pool.
Lastly, Just to bust those penny pinchers balls, I spent US$ 9,500 in my 14 days trip to Medellin. Out of that US$ 2,500 was paid for accomodation at Mansion and for my air ticket. Bottom line US$ 6,000 average of approx US$ 450 per day was spent on girls as follows. Every day I was doing 2 girls in the afternoon and 1 girl overnight. The overnight girl stayed from 8 pm to 8 am with multiple pops and cost me about US$ 200 to US$ 250 and short session girls with tips cost me about US$ 90 each or 150,000 pesos plus 10,000 to 20,000 pesos tip. Rest money was spent on sex shows and some other fun stuff.
My last sentence is for those mongers who call others PATO, I just feel sorry for you as your thinking process is beyond cheap. It is just obnoxious. Yes go ahead keep on telling me that you can have the same girls for less then what I pay to these girls, but please understand that I pay to them more because I chose to pay them. Just think of it as a gift to these beautiful girls of Medellin. My friends once again to each his own.
Regards,
John.Everyday 3-4 girls to bang? Are you equipped with iron or something? Soon you will lose all "Chi"(power) from your body. Your life has been reduced at least 10 years. Jajajajaj. Just kidding.
Member #4351
11-18-10, 17:26
Matt Psyche,
Its a good idea to have the shots, especially if you´re not sure where you will be sticking your tongue, but you might not have enough time. As I remember its a series of three shots over 6 months or something like that..although after the second one you are supposed to be more or less protected.
Looks like everyone has made peace, which is good, but at some risk I would like to talk $$ again. I just made my plane reservation on Spirit, it comes to around $1,000, which is a good deal for christmas time. Then I've got two nights at CB II for $100 a night, and then an apt for $750 for a week, total about another $1,000. So $2,000 before discretionary expenses. I haven't become a fan of the casas, maybe one day I will, but I prefer more personal interaction with the chica, dinner, music, even a movie. With food, entertainment and a woman (and not multiple women unless it's an exceptional day, I just really can't do multiple women in a day unless I'm lucky), I'll be spending at least $200 a day. So at 9 days lets call it $2,000. That's $4,000 total. And it will probably be more. Of course, it's going to be a great 9 days! I consider myself a lower caste budget male, but it does cost money. I'm in favor in principle with negotiating with the chicas, though I'm not good at it, but in any event you have to admit that whether you pay them $10 or $20 less or more a pop, in the big picture, is not that meaningful dollar-wise.
Everyday 3-4 girls to bang? Are you equipped with iron or something? Soon you will lose all "Chi"(power) from your body. Your life has been reduced at least 10 years. Jajajajaj. Just kidding.
My dear friend, I feel the other way around. I think my life has increased by at least 10 years... Lol....... Last time I checked sex is one of the best exercise.
regards,
John.
Gents,
So I was actually happy to see that Obama had the foresite to appoint a commision to point out some hard to swallow facts and recommendations to get out house in financial order.
However it is something to think about since it seems across the board that it is costing more and more pesos to keep these Paisas happy.
Cheers,
Cubanut
The so-called Deficit Commission is a dog and pony show that was set up to fail from the beginning. By recommending such broad based cuts (a little something to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everyone off), the Commission ensured that everyone would be against the recommendations and therefore nothing would be done. Folks in the US love their entitlements but hate paying for them. Kind of like spoiled children.
The US Dollar will slide because they keep printing money - Quantum Easing part deux (QE II) pumped $600B of additional money into the world economy - what's basically happening now is cheap money is chasing higher yields (higher yields that cannot be found in the US) - so you're seeing countries such as Brazil impose currency restrictions to keep all this "surplus" money out of their economy which in turn drives up their currency and makes their exports less competitive vis-a-vis other countries and to a lesser extent the US.
Ironically a by product of QE II is that everyone's favorite friend the big Banks get to borrow money at a cost of ZERO and lend at a spread (ensuring easy profits) -of course they aren't lending to middle America (and who can blame them, middle America is over leveraged and broke) they're lending to each other and hedge funds for their prop trading, repo, derivative books. The even worse news is that down the road inflation will return and guess who gets to pick up the bill for this QE party - you guessed it, the folks who picked up the bill for the last shit storm. The American tax payer - isn't finance fun!
MiamiHeatLuver
11-19-10, 00:19
Mhl keep being cynical and obnoxious, thats what keeps us in check. Always be you, I love it. Its all about stepping up our game as John just did, no fear. People talk about the bull shit on this board but we all got some real dude in us, sometimes it takes adversity to bring us out. Its all good. Brothers fight, but when we chase pussy were together no matter how much we pay.
Ahh Mr G, my friend, it looks like we were cut from the same cloth (brilliant minds think alike) lol. I will keep stating comments from my experiences and make unbiased opinions here as much as I like, when I like or feel the need to! Some people take it as being argumentative, obnoxious or cynical. So be it. Take it for what it is or ignore me, so what? Like you said this is a forum of 100k members from all corners of the Earth, each with something unique to bring to the table. (well not everybody) je je
Anytime you would like on the Island or in Colombia it looks like we could definitely meet for drinks, share b!tches and war stories! peace MHL
Frank Casio
11-19-10, 02:42
Welcome to Medellin Paradise ! http://www.pegateya.com/play.php?vid=273 http://pegateya.com/play.php?vid=22 http://www.pegateya.com/play.php?vid=139
... The US Dollar will slide because they keep printing money - Quantum Easing part deux (QE II) pumped $600B of additional money into the world economy ...
Though this is some exciting stuff, and I do appreciate the economy lessons, I think we all get it. Por favor ...
SlamCity7777
11-19-10, 03:52
looks like everyone has made peace, which is good, but at some risk i would like to talk $$ again. i just made my plane reservation on spirit, it comes to around $1,000, which is a good deal for christmas time. then i've got two nights at cb ii for $100 a night, and then an apt for $750 for a week, total about another $1,000. so $2,000 before discretionary expenses. i haven't become a fan of the casas, maybe one day i will, but i prefer more personal interaction with the chica, dinner, music, even a movie. with food, entertainment and a woman (and not multiple women unless it's an exceptional day, i just really can't do multiple women in a day unless i'm lucky), i'll be spending at least $200 a day. so at 9 days lets call it $2,000. that's $4,000 total. and it will probably be more. of course, it's going to be a great 9 days! i consider myself a lower caste budget male, but it does cost money. i'm in favor in principle with negotiating with the chicas, though i'm not good at it, but in any event you have to admit that whether you pay them $10 or $20 less or more a pop, in the big picture, is not that meaningful dollar-wise.i'm just blow away at it costing $1000 on spirit!!! they squeeze and squeeze every dollar from their passengers...when i saw that they had the nerve to charge for a carry on!! i will never fly spirit.
i agree, with everything else
John, sounds like you had a hell of a good time.
Damn, I miss Medellin.
Do you have any pics of the lesbian shows to share?
Member #4394
11-19-10, 04:58
You are totaly right.
Thanks a lot.
Three shots spaced over six months. Get them on your 'Yellow Card'. Get every other shot while you're at it. How the hell are you pursuing this hobby having not done this right from the start?
looks like everyone has made peace, which is good, but at some risk i would like to talk $$ again. i just made my plane reservation on spirit, it comes to around $1, 000, which is a good deal for christmas time. then i've got two nights at cb ii for $100 a night, and then an apt for $750 for a week, total about another $1, 000. so $2, 000 before discretionary expenses. i haven't become a fan of the casas, maybe one day i will, but i prefer more personal interaction with the chica, dinner, music, even a movie. with food, entertainment and a woman (and not multiple women unless it's an exceptional day, i just really can't do multiple women in a day unless i'm lucky), i'll be spending at least $200 a day. so at 9 days lets call it $2, 000. that's $4, 000 total. and it will probably be more. of course, it's going to be a great 9 days! i consider myself a lower caste budget male, but it does cost money. i'm in favor in principle with negotiating with the chicas, though i'm not good at it, but in any event you have to admit that whether you pay them $10 or $20 less or more a pop, in the big picture, is not that meaningful dollar-wise.are you trying to say that you will blow $2000 on hotel and airfare. before food and chicas and $10-$20 means nothing to you? i would hope not! most guys spend that much the entire trip.
John,
I could not agree more. When I go (and was just there for halloween) it is a vacation for me and I want to do what I want and when. I am not a rich man by any means but I usually spend the same for 8 days and have a ball. It is comfortable, casual, and I save for it. To me. My opinion. The bang for my buck (pun intended) is what I like about the Mansion. I treat it like it was my own house and Greg, Boyd, and Robert let me do this. The only thing missing for me would be a beach and ocean breeze. Other than that. I am a happy camper.
I will go ahead and post my report as I think it is in best interest of the board and who cares what few member thinks.
I personally arranged 2 lesbian shows at the Mansion lobby. All of the guys pitched in about 40, 000 to 50, 000 pesos each. The show included a new bi-sexual girl by name of Andrea/Alexandria she was newly added to the Mansion by Boyd. In my opinion although she is not as hot as Bibiana but she is just an amazing addition to the Mansion. The show with Bibiana and Andrea was so amazing to watch. IMHO Bibiana has met her match as instead of Bibiana taking control of the show, the new girl Andrea was in complete control of the show. She just rammed the beautiful Bibiana's pussy and ASS together with a DILDO. In the end both of them came. Oh my gosh just looking at Bibiana on the Mansion lobby floor being rimmed is a sight never to be forgotten. It is just affixed in my memory.
Second lesbian show was between Andrea/Alexandra and Sandra (I think her name) she is the famous squirter at the Mansion. The squirter is not that great looking a girl but she has a nice hard body. This show lasted about 40 minutes. One of the fellow monger was so excited after he saw the show that he walked in pouring rain to the ATM machine came back and had a session with the squirter. In my fellow mongers words when the squirter came on him it felt to him like somebody poured hot cup of coffee on him. According to this fellow monger he slept all night in a bed full of cum.
Those who received Mansion Newsletter of November 14, 2010. 3 of the 6 girls on that newsletter were introduced to the Mansion by me. Eliana, Lina and Lucy. I had to pay premium money to bring them to the Mansion for the first time and now all of those who visit Mansion can enjoy their company at Mansion prices. In my opinion Eliana will not become a Mansion girl on regular basis but she could be one of those on call girls. It is just my opinion but you never know about these girls. Lina and Lucy have joined the Mansion permanently.
Mansion girls were all simply great for the day session and I had a great time with most of them. Greg, boyd and Mark all at the Mansion took great care of me. One morning Boyd walked in and told five members sitting at the Mansion Pool that one girl who is at the Mansion has had bad reviews and that he is warning us about her. This girl has natural the cup boobs. She just has an amazing body.
I replied to Boyd that if this girl has such bad reputation why is this girl at the Mansion. Boyd replied that Greg allows her to be at the Mansion. Few minutes later Greg walks in at the Mansion Pool and says to all of us guys that one of us should try this girl and give him a review. I think Greg must have talked to her as well. Now all of us 6 or 7 guys at the Mansion Pool are looking at each other and thinking who wants to take one for the team. Well I talked to this girl straight up and asked her if all this talk about her bad service is true and if I was to take her will she provide BBBJ and I like deep french kissing and long fucks. She said to me she will do her best. All in all she did more than the best any other Mansion girl ever provided to me. It was like she was on a mission to prove Boyd wrong. Mansion girls really preferred by me (Joana, blond hair, Bibiana, Marcela {new girl she is in Bogota for few days}, Tatiana/Camila, Carolina {Jimena sister}, Jimena and Laidy (tall, black hair, nice natural boobs and nice ass), last but the most amazing of them all is an 18 year old girl by name of Monika who is a mansion girl but I saw her in romance latina. This girl is an amazing fuck and provides great BBBJ. For all night action I picked few girls from Lindas Chicas and few were from Romance Latina as well.
It was not easy spending the amount of money I spent in Medellin, on my last day it was raining and I paid girls 50, 000 pesos just to go skinny dipping in the Mansion pool while it was 67 degree F temperature and it was raining. The Mansion pool was covered from top with the black colored cloth they have but sure enough rain was pouring. Boy it was fun watching these beauties jump in that pool. After few minutes of watching these beauties in the Mansion Pool, I got to see them taking a shower and kissing them when they were coming out of the Pool.
Lastly, Just to bust those penny pinchers balls, I spent US$ 9, 500 in my 14 days trip to Medellin. Out of that US$ 2, 500 was paid for accomodation at Mansion and for my air ticket. Bottom line US$ 6, 000 average of approx US$ 450 per day was spent on girls as follows. Every day I was doing 2 girls in the afternoon and 1 girl overnight. The overnight girl stayed from 8 pm to 8 am with multiple pops and cost me about US$ 200 to US$ 250 and short session girls with tips cost me about US$ 90 each or 150, 000 pesos plus 10, 000 to 20, 000 pesos tip. Rest money was spent on sex shows and some other fun stuff.
My last sentence is for those mongers who call others PATO, I just feel sorry for you as your thinking process is beyond cheap. It is just obnoxious. Yes go ahead keep on telling me that you can have the same girls for less then what I pay to these girls, but please understand that I pay to them more because I chose to pay them. Just think of it as a gift to these beautiful girls of Medellin. My friends once again to each his own.
Regards,
John.
CaptainDorado
11-19-10, 17:20
I'm just blow away at it costing $1000 on Spirit!!! They squeeze and squeeze every dollar from their passengers...When I saw that they had the NERVE to charge for a carry on!! I will never fly Spirit.
I agree, with everything else$20.00 per leg, from LAX its 4 legs, thats an extra $80 bucks, fuck them.
2nd trip there gave me a líttle more perspective.
got there after midnight.compared to sat: quantity about the same. quality not as good. i was looking for the 2 beutifull chicas i saw on sat. on the way out with shontell (perfect 10 blonde) but did not see them.
picked a gorgeous spinner that looked hotter in her street clothes over the rest in their outfits. (forgot her outfit, she said)
beautifull eyes & braces that made her innocent look work for me.
170k, again! is it me or did the prices just go up?
once the clothes came off she didn't dissapoint. despite or maybe because of no silicone.
what did dissapoint was her performance.
she seemed skittish. turns out the very 1st time she was there some dude went up the [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) shoot unannounced.
she just returned after 9 months away & i'm the lucky next!
forgot her name but if you have a thing for braces on an innocent face & hot little body and willing to put up with the rest, there you go.
for me, all in all not worth it this time.
things add up to that 170k: 10k to just walk in, 4k cokes & about 20k in 2k tips i feel like a scmuck not giving the girls after dancing.
i might go back but it'd have to be saturday after midnight, seems like the best time to go.
I personally arranged 2 lesbian shows at the Mansion lobby. All of the guys pitched in about 40, 000 to 50, 000 pesos each. The show included a new bi-sexual girl by name of Andrea/Alexandria. The show with Bibiana and Andrea was so amazing to watch. IMHO Bibiana has met her match as instead of Bibiana taking control of the show, the new girl Andrea was in complete control of the show. She just rammed the beautiful Bibiana's pussy and ASS together with a DILDO. In the end both of them came. Oh my gosh just looking at Bibiana on the Mansion lobby floor being rimmed is a sight never to be forgotten. It is just affixed in my memory.
Second lesbian show was between Andrea/Alexandra and Sandra (I think her name) she is the famous squirter at the Mansion. The squirter is not that great looking a girl but she has a nice hard body. This show lasted about 40 minutes. One of the fellow monger was so excited after he saw the show that he walked in pouring rain to the ATM machine came back and had a session with the squirter.
John.John,
All this Lesbo stuff and not even 1 pic?
Just my 2 centavos
Cubanut
John,
All this Lesbo stuff and not even 1 pic?
Just my 2 centavos
CubanutHi Cubanut,
You are right. The girl Andrea/Alexandra did not allow photos. First off I am not into taking pictures for personal reasons. Aside from that other guys wanted to take photos but that particular girl did not allow and to be honest we did not push this matter as much.
I am sure in your next trip to Medellin you will be able to convince this girl.
Regards,
John.
Got there right before 7pm.
Got caught in what's becoming all too common in Medellin, a carwash strength downpour.
The dude in charge was nice enough to hand me a towel & threw my clothes in the drier while I was there.
Of the 9-11 girls there, I debated between mari, (a doll I'm not sure I reported having last week. VERY cute face, very into having fun, great body. A 9.) or lorena.
Went with lorena. Very nice too. She was half drunk which I think made her get into it. Very nice thin body with nice ass. Ok face. A 6-7 alltogether.
Bummer that the new girl did not allow pics.
Does anybody have pics of the "Famous Squirter"?
Hey John,
Is this the same Marcela you mention in your last big report?
http://www.romancelatina.com/en/member/profile.php?profile_id=1995628
Her profile doesn't say "discrete" or "one night stand" but she emailed me her digits immediately and I had a nice chat with her yesterday. I wonder if some of the RL girls are too shy to be seen as obviously prepago on the site but in reality are are hoping and willing to have a "friendly exchange" with decent guys who has pesos to offer. In our chat I made clear I was not looking for a serious relationship and it didn't deter her from wanting to meet me.
Bonerangerfl
11-21-10, 05:43
Hey guys,
I am travelling to Medillin and it seems like I have searched for a couple hours on what to do. It seems like there is so much info but I still can't figure out what to do and where to stay.
How is hotel Poblado with bringing girls back?
Can someone just tell me what to do and a few options on where to stay?
Looking for:
Nice place to stay, chica friendly.
Area close to everything.
Places where normal girls hang out as well.
Place to get semi-pros and a cheap place for super pros.
Staying from a Thurs-Sunday.
Thanks
Lu
Go to the Mansion. Casa Blanca1 and 2. Hook up with Boyd. First timer, great place. Talk with sara on the phone. Have fun!
Hey guys,
I am travelling to Medillin and it seems like I have searched for a couple hours on what to do. It seems like there is so much info but I still can't figure out what to do and where to stay.
How is hotel Poblado with bringing girls back?
Can someone just tell me what to do and a few options on where to stay?
Looking for:
Nice place to stay, chica friendly.
Area close to everything.
Places where normal girls hang out as well.
Place to get semi-pros and a cheap place for super pros.
Staying from a Thurs-Sunday.
Thanks
Lu
Hey guys,
I am travelling to Medillin and it seems like I have searched for a couple hours on what to do. It seems like there is so much info but I still can't figure out what to do and where to stay.
How is hotel Poblado with bringing girls back?
Can someone just tell me what to do and a few options on where to stay?
Looking for:
Nice place to stay, chica friendly.
Area close to everything.
Places where normal girls hang out as well.
Place to get semi-pros and a cheap place for super pros.
Staying from a Thurs-Sunday.
Thanks
LuLu,
Let's break this down:
I am travelling to Medillin.
When? This week?
It seems like I have searched for a couple hours on what to do. It seems like there is so much info but I still can't figure out what to do and where to stay.
Why? What are the obstacles you are running into?
How is hotel Poblado with bringing girls back?
Hotel Poblado? I know of The Poblado Plaza and the Torre Poblado and the this and that Poblado but have never heard of Hotel Poblado. Got an address?
Can someone just tell me what to do and a few options on where to stay?
Can't tell you what to do but your BEST option as a newbie as far as where to stay is at Casa Blanca 1 or 2.
Looking for:
Nice place to stay, chica friendly.
Casa Blanca 1 or 2
Area close to everything.
El Poblado
Places where normal girls hang out as well.
Malls, restaurants, plazas etc.
Place to get semi-pros and a cheap place for super pros.
What's the difference between the two? Helps to figure out what you mean.
Staying from a Thurs-Sunday.
So you're getting in Thursday and Leaving Sunday? Brother, just stay at the Casa Blanca 1 or 2. Otherwise after you get back you will be wishing you stayed at the Casa Blanca 1 or 2.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Same here.
Hey guys,
I am travelling to Medillin and it seems like I have searched for a couple hours on what to do. It seems like there is so much info but I still can't figure out what to do and where to stay.
How is hotel Poblado with bringing girls back?
Can someone just tell me what to do and a few options on where to stay?
Looking for:
Nice place to stay, chica friendly.
Area close to everything.
Places where normal girls hang out as well.
Place to get semi-pros and a cheap place for super pros.
Staying from a Thurs-Sunday.
Thanks
Lu
Hey guys,
I am travelling to Medillin and it seems like I have searched for a couple hours on what to do. It seems like there is so much info but I still can't figure out what to do and where to stay.
How is hotel Poblado with bringing girls back?
Can someone just tell me what to do and a few options on where to stay?
Looking for:
Nice place to stay, chica friendly.
Area close to everything.
Places where normal girls hang out as well.
Place to get semi-pros and a cheap place for super pros.
Staying from a Thurs-Sunday.
Thanks
Lu
My friend you have had many responses to recommend staying at Casa Blanca 1 or 2. If you do not know what other friends are refering to following is their website:
http://www.medellinmansion.com/
Regards,
John.
Bonerangerfl
11-21-10, 17:29
It must be a pretty nice place with all the recommendations. So you guys are saying NO to the hotels? Not even the Medillin Royal, Art hotel, or Poblado?
I am also meeting up with some chicas I met off of Latinamericancupid.com so is this a place I can bring them with-out to many pros starring at them?
What about the bar scene? I am hearing Mangos, Palmitas, and Pub Escocia?
Has anyone done that Escobar tour? Sounds cool.
I am travelling with a guy who is not into mongering, so trying to do a bunch of other things. I am sure that will change this trip.
I'll be there Dec 9-12. Anyone have a "Day by Day" recommendation as to what you would do there?
Thanks again for all your help fellas.
I was in Medellin last year and my two favorite places were ABYDOS and LOUTRON. Can anyone confirm they are still open and have not moved locations?
Also, I prefer these type of places. VIP, beautiful girls, not so concerned about the price. Are there any other recommendations of new places that have opened in the last year like these two?
Thanks in advance!
Myore Vega
11-22-10, 16:35
I went to both places in October and they are both open (right across the street from each other).
Only thing I don't really care for is they are out of the way from everything else (maybe 20-25 minutes from centro and 40-45 from Poblado. However, there is a regular club a few minutes walk down the street on the Aybdos side of the street, heading away from the overpass (if my cerveza filled memory serves me correctly).
Abydos is 120K for an hour (I would/will go again).
Loutron I believe is 140-160K, didn't session since I keep a fast pace and wanted to hit everything. (IMO best at night when most of your other options are closed). Has a club feel to it and because of that Abydos is the better choice during the daytime since it is more MP in structure.
I should be there again in December so you can PM if you want me to confirm anything.
I was in Medellin last year and my two favorite places were ABYDOS and LOUTRON. Can anyone confirm they are still open and have not moved locations?
Also, I prefer these type of places. VIP, beautiful girls, not so concerned about the price. Are there any other recommendations of new places that have opened in the last year like these two?
Thanks in advance!
Paisalover
11-22-10, 23:02
Hi Bonerangerfl,
I won't comment much on the Mansion/Casa Blanca, since they're my direct competitor (I'm the Girlfriend 4 A Week guy).
However, you mention meeting up the girls from LatinAmericanCupid. Keep in mind the the majority of the girls in Medellin have heard about the Mansion. If they ask you where you're staying....it might lead to some awkward situations. Enough said about that.
All the hotels I know in Medellin will allow female visitors. They will ALL
- ask the girl to show a valid ID to prove that she's 18 years or older
- ask her to register
- charge you a guest fee. I've heard that this guest fee for the hotels you're mentioning runs at around COP 70,000 ($37).
Another option you have are apartments or furnished rooms in apartments, if you don't mind sharing an apartment with (hopefully) like-minded fellows. You have more privacy in an apartment and they're typically more affordable, especially once you factor in the guest fee you pay to the hotels.
As far as clubs as Mango/Palmahia are concerned: A lot of visitors make the mistake to go there with the expectation to pick up girls. Not a good idea! You'll mostly find girls there who got invited by other guys, (their boyfriend??). Regular girls cannot afford to pay the entrance fee of COP 15,000. If you want to get to know girls, I would recommend less expensive clubs e.g. along 33 (Carbonsito,...). There you'll find groups of girls, especially on Thursdays. If you want to enjoy Mangos (it's a fun place!), make sure to invite a girl you already know or go with a fun crowd.
Let me know if you have any question.
Regard,
PaisaLover
It must be a pretty nice place with all the recommendations. So you guys are saying NO to the hotels? Not even the Medillin Royal, Art hotel, or Poblado?
I am also meeting up with some chicas I met off of Latinamericancupid.com so is this a place I can bring them with-out to many pros starring at them?
What about the bar scene? I am hearing Mangos, Palmitas, and Pub Escocia?
Has anyone done that Escobar tour? Sounds cool.
I am travelling with a guy who is not into mongering, so trying to do a bunch of other things. I am sure that will change this trip.
I'll be there Dec 9-12. Anyone have a "Day by Day" recommendation as to what you would do there?
Thanks again for all your help fellas.
Hi. New to MDE. Just came back from 2 months in Asia. Pretty basic+ Spanish and staying at CB and looking forward to it. Curious if trips outside the city MDE are "safe" and whether anyone has recommendations (for area day trips?). Do you use the big hotel services or are there trustworthy private guides? Will be there 9/3-9/9. Do you go out "alone" at night and return by taxi or by foot? Curious and interested in feedback. Sorry for the newbie stuff-have patience.
Thanks
It must be a pretty nice place with all the recommendations. So you guys are saying NO to the hotels? Not even the Medillin Royal, Art hotel, or Poblado?
I am also meeting up with some chicas I met off of Latinamericancupid.com so is this a place I can bring them with-out to many pros starring at them?
What about the bar scene? I am hearing Mangos, Palmitas, and Pub Escocia?
Has anyone done that Escobar tour? Sounds cool.
I am travelling with a guy who is not into mongering, so trying to do a bunch of other things. I am sure that will change this trip.
I'll be there Dec 9-12. Anyone have a "Day by Day" recommendation as to what you would do there?
Thanks again for all your help fellas. Bonerangerfl,
Going to the Mansion is cool if you're only going to Medellin to meet pros. If you're trying to meet non pros too and your friend isn't into mongering I would suggest staying elsewhere, preferably an apartment. My go to guy is Andrew at http://www.theapartmentmedellin.com. The upfront deposits scare some people off but you do get back the security deposit at the end of your stay. You can bring girls over without guest fees and harassment. The non pros are a little more comfortable going to an apartment than a hotel especially the Mansion. Andrew's apartments are in luxury high rises in the safest neighborhoods. You're already using Latin American Cupid so I would suggest using http://www.colombiancupid.com and http://www.romancelatina.com as well. For people watching in Parque Lleras on a Friday night definitely eat dinner at Basilica. I'm more of a Loutron/Fase 2/independent girls monger so I don't know the cheaper places to find p4p. If you don't have a hotmail or live.com email address you should get one. Every girl you meet will have hotmail and want to chat on MSN. Feel free to PM me for more information. I'll be in MDE 11/27-12/1.
Thanks Paisalover,
Can you tell us more about along 33 (Carbonsito,.)? I agree, places like Mangos are very fun, but not great for meeting girls. You know Medellin very well. Can you list some places to visit that are fun on Thursday nights and weekends?
Thanks in advance!
Hi Bonerangerfl,
I won't comment much on the Mansion/Casa Blanca, since they're my direct competitor (I'm the Girlfriend 4 A Week guy).
However, you mention meeting up the girls from LatinAmericanCupid. Keep in mind the the majority of the girls in Medellin have heard about the Mansion. If they ask you where you're staying....it might lead to some awkward situations. Enough said about that.
All the hotels I know in Medellin will allow female visitors. They will ALL
- ask the girl to show a valid ID to prove that she's 18 years or older
- ask her to register
- charge you a guest fee. I've heard that this guest fee for the hotels you're mentioning runs at around COP 70,000 ($37).
Another option you have are apartments or furnished rooms in apartments, if you don't mind sharing an apartment with (hopefully) like-minded fellows. You have more privacy in an apartment and they're typically more affordable, especially once you factor in the guest fee you pay to the hotels.
As far as clubs as Mango/Palmahia are concerned: A lot of visitors make the mistake to go there with the expectation to pick up girls. Not a good idea! You'll mostly find girls there who got invited by other guys, (their boyfriend??). Regular girls cannot afford to pay the entrance fee of COP 15,000. If you want to get to know girls, I would recommend less expensive clubs e.g. along 33 (Carbonsito,...). There you'll find groups of girls, especially on Thursdays. If you want to enjoy Mangos (it's a fun place!), make sure to invite a girl you already know or go with a fun crowd.
Let me know if you have any question.
Regard,
PaisaLover
Thanks. But I am a little confused by your first line. Help me understand? LOUTRONS was closer to El Tesoro Mall in the hills. ABYDOS was under the overpass in the city. Unless they moved?
Thank!
I went to both places in October and they are both open (right across the street from each other).
Only thing I don't really care for is they are out of the way from everything else (maybe 20-25 minutes from centro and 40-45 from Poblado. However, there is a regular club a few minutes walk down the street on the Aybdos side of the street, heading away from the overpass (if my cerveza filled memory serves me correctly).
Abydos is 120K for an hour (I would/will go again).
Loutron I believe is 140-160K, didn't session since I keep a fast pace and wanted to hit everything. (IMO best at night when most of your other options are closed). Has a club feel to it and because of that Abydos is the better choice during the daytime since it is more MP in structure.
I should be there again in December so you can PM if you want me to confirm anything.
Myore Vega
11-23-10, 07:48
Lo siento. Good catch, I meant to say Luna is across the street. I don't think I made it to Loutrons. If the quality is the same, or better, I'll try to make it out there too.
Abydos is still in the same place near the overpass.
Thanks. But I am a little confused by your first line. Help me understand? LOUTRONS was closer to El Tesoro Mall in the hills. ABYDOS was under the overpass in the city. Unless they moved?
Thank!
I was in Medellin last year and my two favorite places were ABYDOS and LOUTRON. Can anyone confirm they are still open and have not moved locations?
Also, I prefer these type of places. VIP, beautiful girls, not so concerned about the price. Are there any other recommendations of new places that have opened in the last year like these two?
Thanks in advance!
I went to both places in October and they are both open (right across the street from each other).Myore Vega,
Abydos and Loutron are NOT across the street from one another. Abydos is on Ave 33 # 64-198.
Loutron is at Calle 12 Sur # 10-245 near El Tesoro Mall.
Maybe you were thinking of Luna Lunera which IS across the street from Abydos but that is open late night where as Abydos is not.
Zeiss,
Blue Room, Calle 33 # 78-63 (10 long blocks from Abydos) and Energy Carrera 74 # 49-101 (across the street from the Stadium) are similar to Abydos and Loutron in the presentation of the girls. They come out in short white smocks and high heels then remove the smocks and do a twirl around to show themselves wearing only panties & bras.
I have long been told that all four places are owned by the same person.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- Hard to believe that just 6 short years ago, full service at the most expensive of the four places (Loutron) was $70, 000 cop when the dollar was $2, 600 cop to $1 USD!
Thanks. But I am a little confused by your first line. Help me understand? LOUTRONS was closer to El Tesoro Mall in the hills. ABYDOS was under the overpass in the city. Unless they moved?
Thank!
Loutron is at same place in the Hills near Tesoro Mall, as usual and it cost 210k for one hour and it is still open. I have not been to Abydos.
regards,
John.
Hi Maidenkj,
I liked your comments. I have a similar point-of-view. I will be in Medellin from 11/27 to 12/6, and am staying in Andrew's apartments too. Let me know if you want to meet up for a beer one night? I sent you a PM with my email address.
Bonerangerfl,
Going to the Mansion is cool if you're only going to Medellin to meet pros. If you're trying to meet non pros too and your friend isn't into mongering I would suggest staying elsewhere, preferably an apartment. My go to guy is Andrew at http://www.theapartmentmedellin.com. The upfront deposits scare some people off but you do get back the security deposit at the end of your stay. You can bring girls over without guest fees and harassment. The non pros are a little more comfortable going to an apartment than a hotel especially the Mansion. Andrew's apartments are in luxury high rises in the safest neighborhoods. You're already using Latin American Cupid so I would suggest using http://www.colombiancupid.com and http://www.romancelatina.com as well. For people watching in Parque Lleras on a Friday night definitely eat dinner at Basilica. I'm more of a Loutron/Fase 2/independent girls monger so I don't know the cheaper places to find p4p. If you don't have a hotmail or live.com email address you should get one. Every girl you meet will have hotmail and want to chat on MSN. Feel free to PM me for more information. I'll be in MDE 11/27-12/1.
Loutron is at same place in the Hills near Tesoro Mall, as usual and it cost 210k for one hour and it is still open. I have not been to Abydos.
regards,
John.
Wow! I can remember when the cost was only 80k. Inflation has sure hit Loutron.
Is the price worth a visit??
Well, I guess everybody should visit Loutron at least once, but if the lineup isn't spectacular, just pass.
As a matter of fact, Roberto, one of the jefes from the Mansion (CB) told me not so long ago that the Loutron chicas in the past didn't make it at the Mansion 'cause most just couldn't cut the GFE ... too mechanical.
Wow! I can remember when the cost was only 80k. Inflation has sure hit Loutron.
Is the price worth a visit?
Well, I guess everybody should visit Loutron at least once, but if the lineup isn't spectacular, just pass.
As a matter of fact, Roberto, one of the jefes from the Mansion (CB) told me not so long ago that the Loutron chicas in the past didn't make it at the Mansion 'cause most just couldn't cut the GFE. Too mechanical.Plus at the mansion as a matter of fact you get the added benefit of having the same girls that everyone else there has had. You can talk all about the experiences you all had in common.
SlamCity7777
11-23-10, 16:11
Loutron is at same place in the Hills near Tesoro Mall, as usual and it cost 210k for one hour and it is still open. I have not been to Abydos.
regards,
John.210K an Hour?! Ouch! I think it was 150 two years ago
IMO you can do better; better service, better value, and better/same quality of chica. From what I've seen on the board there simply put there are better options out there in terms of well everything, better!
Is this a good time to go to Medellin? or like other Latin American Countries bad time to go and seasonal?
Lex
Aussie Greg
11-23-10, 23:26
Golf,
Many new girls at the CB so your not so correct and for example.
A guy that has been here 26 times since Aug 2004 "hoserack" has been here this trip for 4 days and had 3 girls a day, all new, would you like his e-mail address to talk about his experiences.
A.G.
Plus at the mansion as a matter of fact you get the added benefit of having the same girls that everyone else there has had. You can talk all about the experiences you all had in common.
SlamCity7777
11-24-10, 00:26
Is this a good time to go to Medellin? or like other Latin American Countries bad time to go and seasonal?
LexDecember 26 till Jan 1
I would say no go. Most everybody will be away with family at "la finca" and the entire town will be dead from what I hear.
I can tell you from first hand experience that Late Nov till like Mid Dec is AWESOME! The malls are packed with groups of girls, they close down streets and have bands/DJs, I spent a few of the best night of my life drinking and dancing in the streets with random chicks; no sex just dancing and it was SO AMAZING!, they light up the river and tons of people hand down there, even though the lights are crap IMO.
So if you can move up your travel plans.
Good luck
Wow! I can remember when the cost was only 80k. Inflation has sure hit Loutron.
Is the price worth a visit??
Well, I guess everybody should visit Loutron at least once, but if the lineup isn't spectacular, just pass.
As a matter of fact, Roberto, one of the jefes from the Mansion (CB) told me not so long ago that the Loutron chicas in the past didn't make it at the Mansion 'cause most just couldn't cut the GFE ... too mechanical.
Hi Ricker,
I agree with you completely. Ricker, you can forget the pricing. Loutron to me is a shit hole. Most girls at Loutron only give Mechanical Service. I did not partake this last trip in Loutron, just went to see the line up. One of my friends did take a girl from Loutron and was not too happy with the experience. For similar reasons I don't partake in Fase Dos either similar mechanical service.
One might get lucky once in a while in both places but they are more of an exception.
If I want mechanical service I would just visit the centro casas which are much better value for the money like New Like. As matter of fact one have a better chance of getting better service at these centro Casas.
Regards,
John.
Thanks. All good points. But please consider CB is booked. Unless I am mistaken, you cannot enter CB or enjoy the girls if you don't have a room at the hotel? Therefore, CB is not an option. Does this sound right? Or has something changed and one can enjoy meeting CB girls without being a part of the hotel? Otherwise, it is a moot point, no?
Thanks for the clarity in advance.
Hi Ricker,
I agree with you completely. Ricker, you can forget the pricing. Loutron to me is a shit hole. Most girls at Loutron only give Mechanical Service. I did not partake this last trip in Loutron, just went to see the line up. One of my friends did take a girl from Loutron and was not too happy with the experience. For similar reasons I don't partake in Fase Dos either similar mechanical service.
One might get lucky once in a while in both places but they are more of an exception.
If I want mechanical service I would just visit the centro casas which are much better value for the money like New Like. As matter of fact one have a better chance of getting better service at these centro Casas.
Regards,
John.
The Tall Man
11-24-10, 04:09
Well The Tall Man bit the bullet and decided to head to MDE from Dec. 15 through 27th! All of your rants and raves about Medellin got me thinking, so here I go. I learned in life that there are basically two kinds of people - the first are talki and the later are the doers.
I have been twice this year to Colombia but spent most of my time with just 'good old traveling around' using Bogota as my home base.
I got an apartment and I plan on just using this as an intro trip to get my bearings.
As I'm shying away from the pros as of late (actually getting kind of tired about it after 15+ years in many countries) I am interested which malls and/or areas would a gringo hang out in and about to meet real woman?
I thank all of you for your info and suggestions that I have been reading on this Colombian forum.
The Tall Man
Golf,
Many new girls at the CB so your not so correct and for example.
A guy that has been here 26 times since Aug 2004 "hoserack" has been here this trip for 4 days and had 3 girls a day, all new, would you like his e-mail address to talk about his experiences.
A.G.Thanks, but not what I'd be interested in. (maybe in a couple decades down the road)
Aussie Greg
11-24-10, 14:59
Zeiss,
Thats correct, CB is only open to guests, when we have former guests that have stayed with us and carnt get in because of late bookings or changes to there own particular circumstances, we allow them in.
Many people have said, why dont you get another property, "not interested in the work side of it"
A.G.
Thanks. All good points. But please consider CB is booked. Unless I am mistaken, you cannot enter CB or enjoy the girls if you don't have a room at the hotel? Therefore, CB is not an option. Does this sound right? Or has something changed and one can enjoy meeting CB girls without being a part of the hotel? Otherwise, it is a moot point, no?
Thanks for the clarity in advance.
Aussie Greg
11-24-10, 15:18
Guys,
If your not on the Casa Blanca mailing list of our newsletter, send Sara your e-mail address at info@medellinmansion.com and she will put you on our mailing list.
A.G.
Lots of rumors about why Dollhouse closed. What they said makes zero sense. Why would they need to hire illegals? This is Colombia! Labor is cheap as it is! An expat told me what sounded as more probable. The chicas were asking for outrageous prices.. 300-400k.. $200 rooms.. US prices for drinks. Near the end they turned it into a casa to try to recoup some money. They got scared and bailed.They were caught selling drugs and that didn't sit to well with the powers that be. I got this fro a reliable source with contacts to the local cops.
Great fun to be had in Colombia at his moment in time. You're asking the kind of questions that only you can answer by going there and seeing for yourself.
Just go. If Medellin turns out to be too much of a down-market dump for you, then just don't go back for more.I live in Medellin, in the last few months 8 gringos I know that live here were robbed at gun point by local guys, and two pairs of guys were drugged then robbed by little hotties they met in parque lleras. One dude was out for 36 hours the thieves ran up 53k in charges on his credit cards while he was sleeping off the drugs. There is a drug war going on in envigado now and has been for several months. 18 people where shot and killed there a month ago, as a result I think a lot of the street dealers don't have any blow to sell so are turning to robbing gringos to make ends meet. Last month at lunch time two locals robbed a colombian lady in the middle of parque lleras, they snatched her purse, but a guard for one of the bars pulled his gun on them and held them until the cops got there to arrest them. There have been a lot more cops in lleras since this happened. 4 guys I know from Costa Rica were robbed at gun point in front of the house where they killed escobar a month ago, they lost their cameras and wallets and cash, it did make it a memorable trip however. Keep I'm mind this isn't disney world.
I'm on Crc 70 near the Metro station Thursday afternoon in Laureles. It is around 3 pm when all at once this fierce lighting storm kicks up with very high winds and driving rain. A huge tree falls across the street on a cab. This blocked the road and traffic was tied up. By now the streets are flooded and then all at once it starts hailing. A guy told me he has lived in MDE for 24 years and never did it hail.
I like the atmosphere of this area. Very good resturants that are not as expensive as Poblado and no hills to walk up and down.
I was doing 2 new girls a night, but now I have hooked up with my 3 regulars so I will cut down to one a night as I'm sure my back and balls will thank me.
Yesterday (Friday) was no rain, but of course I lugged my unbrella around all day. Maybe that is the answer, bring the unbrella and it will not rain.
So far I have met some new guys staying at different parts of the city and all have turned out to be good guys. I love sitting at a table on the Strip with a few guys and reviewing the talent as it walks by.
Everday I learn some new Spanish and different things about this place I call Pussy Central.I was in that hail storm, it blew my mind, I had no idea it could hail here in Medellin!
Well The Tall Man bit the bullet and decided to head to MDE from Dec. 15 through 27th! All of your rants and raves about Medellin got me thinking, so here I go. I learned in life that there are basically two kinds of people - the first are talki and the later are the doers.
I have been twice this year to Colombia but spent most of my time with just 'good old traveling around' using Bogota as my home base.
I got an apartment and I plan on just using this as an intro trip to get my bearings.
As I'm shying away from the pros as of late (actually getting kind of tired about it after 15+ years in many countries) I am interested which malls and/or areas would a gringo hang out in and about to meet real woman?
I thank all of you for your info and suggestions that I have been reading on this Colombian forum.
The Tall ManMy last trip I went to Sante Fe mall to hang out and have lunch. There were alot of fine chics walking around but they didn't give me a second look. Most Colombian women seem to be focused on their agenda. Anyway I sat outside on the balcony with a great view eating lunch. A mother(about 55yo) and a daughter(28yo) sat in front of me. They were taking pictures of each other so I asked if they would like for me to take pictures of them. They said sure. The daughter spoke perfect english and was visiting her mom from New York.
They asked me to join them and we all talked an hour over cofee. The daughter was basic but was clean and nice. The mom still had it also. I lied and said it was my first visit to Medellin and I hoped one day to move there. They took me through the usual pop quiz. Are you married? Nunca, do you have kids? Si, what do I do? Why haven't you ever married?
Well they invited me to have dinner during my stay and we exchanged numbers. I had Darly and Maria from SanDiego on my agenda for that night. I called the second day and asked for lunch. They were great hosts, and if my game was about doing the right thing it might have been something special there. But Medellin is to much fun to settle down with one chic right now. That night hit Luna Luneras with Caroline then closed Mayorista finishing with San Diego. I emailed the daughter and said I was visiting family in NY forThanksgiving and were having dinner this Saturday. So yes TallMan you can stumble onto a non-pro but I think you have to be sure thats what you want.
I spent a few days in Medellin in search of the illustrious Latin women that one sees in Miami beach. I wanted tall, hot, and curvy chicas and heard that Medellin boasts the hottest chicks in Latin America thus I opted to check the place out.
I expected Medellin to be the Latin version of Kiev or Odessa and with 8's and 9's du jour and was disappointed. There are plenty of good looking and cute girls about but the place was not overflowing with smoking hot women.
There is a tripartite P4P scene in Medellin: the Mansion girls who are cute but far from spectacular, the casa girls which run the gamut from ass ugly to a small percentage but readily available 8s, and the strip club girls that range from 5s to 8s. I guess there is actually an escort service scene too, but I didn't try it and can't comment upon it although I've heard it's hit or miss and the ol' switch a roo happens about ½ the time.
Mansion Girls: I played third wheel for lunch with a fellow inhabitant of El Castillo who managed to score a pretty sweet babe with big fake tits. The young lad was a war vet and was working as a combat zone contractor so I maintained enough discipline not to try to screw his hooker while he was still at El Castillo. After lunch, as they were going back to fuck I asked if she had a friend. Worst sentence I ever uttered south of the equator. She replied that she had a friend that looked exactly like her but when she arrived she looked nothing like her. The girl was grinning like a Cheshire cat when she saw me and I was terrified that this heffa would eat me for supper. I tried to send a series of subliminal and overt messages to let my el Castillo mate and the girls to broadcast that I was not interested but they were not receiving. In fact, my el Castillo buddy looked at me and shrugged his shoulders while saying, "dude, she's got big titties like you wanted". I smiled and murmured, "she has a big everything, " My mate and his hottie went to go screw and I was left awkwardly standing in the hallway. I decided to play broke and reached into my pocket and pulled out two 50, 000 peso bills. She smiled and practically screamed "no problem. " At this point, I figured that it'd be easier to be a nice guy than to send her away with no money for food so I nodded to the room and then nodded down to my cock. She then proceeded to suck me off as I watched an episode of Spike TVs DEA.
Casa Girls: I'm not much into short-term sessions but I think that the casas are not to be missed; there is virtually something for everybody's tastes and budget. Just viewing the lineups are a great experience: you sit on a sofa and the girls come out one by one in smocks and quickly disrobe to their undies to give the potential customer a better view of the goods. I grabbed a gorgeous 7. 5 from a casa for 120k who said she was from the Amazon jungle. Far out. There are numerous casas around town and surprisingly the higher end casa for 220k didn't have better girls than the 120k casa did. I visited three casas and was nominally impressed by what I saw.
Strip Club Girls: The best strip club is Facie Dos. It's a well kept western styled strip club with an 8 or two in attendance on any given night. For 150k you can fuck any of the girls there for about an hour. The best value and my favorite place was San Diego, which is generally one step below Facie Dos in terms of looks and maybe 1 or two steps below Facie Dos facilities wise—the rooms in the fuck motel next to Facie Dos are pretty nice. San Diego is much darker but the girls there were much more approachable and genuine than the chicks from Facie Dos. While 70% or more of the girls from Facie DOS are enhanced and veterans of the hooker circuit in Costa Rica and Panama less than 25% of the Sand Diego girls are. That being said, the girls from San Diego come from and likely still reside in the worst barrios of Medellin and have thievery in their blood and will rob you at the first chance they get. I actually got robbed by a chic one night during a ménage a trois and then took her again the next night because I just had to fuck her. LOL. Lunna Lunera is an overpriced shithole with ugly girls that is both the worst value for the peso and has the nastiest putas. My suggestion is to avoid that place.
The hitman: highclass hooker analogy—I really wanted to fuck some model types but struck out. Looking for high class semi-pro hoes is akin to looking for a hitman. Everybody knows that assassins exist but trying to parachute into a foreign location and find one in a few days with no connections is damn near impossible. I assume that if one were to wonder around Brighton Beach eventually the " I know a guy who knows a guy" might pan out but your not going to go from inquiry to confirmed whack in eight hours. Same shit with semi-pro type models from Medellin. The fact is that there are hot girls in Medellin—some of which may even be avail—but access to such women is normally limited to the local elite and monied expats (not tourists). I have since gotten a number from a Colombian guy sitting next to me at the Hilton bar in CTG who felt insulted when I said that the hookers in Colombia were not that good looking. We'll see what pans out.
Regular Girls: The desirable ones are a tough nut to crack with or without Spanish skills. I was shocked that virtually nobody speaks English in Colombia. Even the upper-class broads and the people that have lived in the USA for a year or two. They don't learn it in school? In places like Romania or fuck, even Uzbekistan, the girls virtually all speak English. Hell, in Romania one can be in the middle of BFE and stop at a gas station and the clerk will understand English. I saw a bunch of gringos around Medellin and I didn't see one with a top-notch broad. I came to the conclusion that the only way to meet decent Colombian women is to be introduced by a Colombian. Funny story, I went to barrio Colombia and barely got into the place where I was supposed to meet a girl and her friends. I sat at the bar and people basically just kinda ignored me. I smiled at the friends—but didn't know it yet- of the girl and they returned a very tentative half-hearted smile. When the girl—a cousin of the attendant at the Lounge in Miami—came up to me and introduced herself and brought me to the table of the friends the mood turned on a dime and a good and engaging time was had by all. Add to this that Colombians are VERY classist so you'd better advertise yourself appropriately or run the risk of being iced out.
DDDude you don't know what you are talking about. I have a dozen piasa friends and they ALL speak strong english. They are all young business owners, and are great to hang out and party with. But these are the kind of people that come from good families and were bi lingual educated. Maybe the broads you think are high class aren't.
I am in Medellin now. Staying at the Estelar Blue. There are a couple of chicas I will C. One I know, two from Cupido. I would like to also arrange a couple of "pro" visits to my hotel. I have used GF4AWK before. But am not having any luck accessing their website. Plus I would like to see who else is out there. Can anyone recommend an agency?
By the way, if anyone if in town and wants a wingman for a brothel visit my cell number here is [Telephone Number deleted by Admin]
Thanks
OldQDog
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Several posts back someone said they had a fetish for braces. I don't remember who it is that said but you will in heaven in MDE. Almost a quarter of them seems to have braces. Seems like a popular thing to do, after breast implants.Braces are a status symbol in most latin countries. Because you ned to have the coin to afford them. Twisted by our standards, but true. LOL remember kids with braces in the USA being called tinsel mouth or train track mouth.
gents,
i have several slr cameras but my preference when traveling is a nikon d50 with a standard 18-55mm lens kit and also a fixed 50 mm lens for that "sharp image w/blury background" effect.
one of the most important things to master is lighting! i use a pivoting speed light (sb28) attached to the camera's hot shoe to "bounce" the light as oppose to direct light flash if i were using the built in pop up flash. direct flash causes harsh reflections and dark shadows behind the subject. back home i have the umbrellas and reflectors and backgrounds but never lug them along on vacation.
a digital slr is the way to go for professional looking shots, especially with a nice paisa in front of the camera. however, no need to get ridiculous and bring an slr that's in the thousands of dollars range. i have seen gents do just that although i could see from their use of the camera and photo results that they don't really spend time learning how to effectively use the camera's multi functions to the point of which they just turn it on auto and end up with a point and shoot.
composition is going on in my mind as i look through the lens of the camera. am i tilted? is there debri in the background? is there a hair in the girls face? will she look better with or without a smile? etc. robert was nice enough to go along with my suggestion of an outdoor makeshift studio. we cleared an area, brought out some furniture. added the plants for a nature touch. also suspended a white sheet above the shoot area to allow the flash to "bounce" off of.
one thing is it is real work to get that special shot. i take several pictures in order to try to pinpoint one that brings the best out of my subject.
as far as photo shopping. no, i don't really but what i do, if needed, is crop, lighten/darken highlight etc. but as far as the actual girls, pretty much what you see is what you can get. none of them are professional models. some of the girls have a knack for posing, many do not.
cheers,
cubanut,
ps. i have tried my hand at photo shopping backgrounds but i really don't care for it much. too much time and effort for weak results.ps one is ok her stomach is a mess from her childbirth i think her name is sarai sp. the second i stayed away from everyone that had done her said she was lame.
i don't know the other two.
Tomasb,
You went with your gut instinct and no one can knock you for that.
I have no idea what the "secret" cell phone call would have been about but I would be willing to guess.
Aleja and many of the other Casa Blanca girls party together. It could be that she was trying to hook up with the other girls who had dates from the Casa Blanca 1 & 2.
I can't tell you how many times I've seen the girls hook up and go party with their TLN's. It is a lot of fun. I have had some wild times with the groups.
Grant it that depending on where you go can mean paying for entry fees, drinks, etc. But one thing I would say is someone dropping a Mickey is one thing I have heard very, very little about (if ever)from the Medellin Mongering Brotherhood. This is NOT Rio (where it was becoming common).
Anyway, you are a strong willed man to stay away from such a beauty as Aleja.
Cheers,
Cubanut
PS. It's funny but I was just thinking of how many ex-Costa Rica going Mongers saw that the best looking chicas in CR were from Colombia. So much so that they decided to come to the source ie. Medellin.
With that in mind I wonder if some of the best looking girls on Romance Latina are also Casa Blanca girls. If that is the case then it's yet another reason why so mongers stay at Casa Blanca 1 & 2. They once again are cumming to the source.
Cheers,
CubanutCubanut,
I lived in CR for years and only the dumbazz touristas did the colombianas in cr, because there are some cold azz biotches, watchin the clock every second. "don't suck my tits". "don't kiss me". "don't mess up my hair" they only want to wash their box touch up their lipstick and return to the del rey asap. LOL the local guys say their motto is you come I go. In Medellin its a different story, some of them can be a great GF exp.
The Tall Man
11-25-10, 02:44
My last trip I went to Sante Fe mall to hang out and have lunch. There were alot of fine chics walking around but they didn't give me a second look. Most Colombian women seem to be focused on their agenda. Anyway I sat outside on the balcony with a great view eating lunch. A mother(about 55yo) and a daughter(28yo) sat in front of me. They were taking pictures of each other so I asked if they would like for me to take pictures of them. They said sure. The daughter spoke perfect english and was visiting her mom from New York.
They asked me to join them and we all talked an hour over cofee. The daughter was basic but was clean and nice. The mom still had it also. I lied and said it was my first visit to Medellin and I hoped one day to move there. They took me through the usual pop quiz. Are you married? Nunca, do you have kids? Si, what do I do? Why haven't you ever married?
Well they invited me to have dinner during my stay and we exchanged numbers. I had Darly and Maria from SanDiego on my agenda for that night. I called the second day and asked for lunch. They were great hosts, and if my game was about doing the right thing it might have been something special there. But Medellin is to much fun to settle down with one chic right now. That night hit Luna Luneras with Caroline then closed Mayorista finishing with San Diego. I emailed the daughter and said I was visiting family in NY forThanksgiving and were having dinner this Saturday. So yes TallMan you can stumble onto a non-pro but I think you have to be sure thats what you want.
Good 'food for thought' Mr Gogo. Maybe I will just play when in MDE, Hell why not stop.
The Tall Man
Well The Tall Man bit the bullet and decided to head to MDE from Dec. 15 through 27th! All of your rants and raves about Medellin got me thinking, so here I go. I learned in life that there are basically two kinds of people - the first are talki and the later are the doers.
I have been twice this year to Colombia but spent most of my time with just 'good old traveling around' using Bogota as my home base.
I got an apartment and I plan on just using this as an intro trip to get my bearings.
As I'm shying away from the pros as of late (actually getting kind of tired about it after 15+ years in many countries) I am interested which malls and/or areas would a gringo hang out in and about to meet real woman?
I thank all of you for your info and suggestions that I have been reading on this Colombian forum.
The Tall Man
Well, I read that you don't speak spanish, and as you probably know by now, that's a pretty big hindrance to meeting these non-pros.
Of course some do speak english, but it's not widespread.
I like Unicentro the best for malls.
It's near la Setenta, fairly close to the Stadium (el Estadio) and the MP Energy if some fun is desired.
Though I do like the Poblado malls for walking about and watching girls, the chicas are just not as approachable in Poblado.
As other guys have written here, the best way to meet non-pros is thru connections.
Meet some locals, guys and girls, make contacts, meet their friends, etc, etc.
Do yourself a favor, learn spanish, it opens more doors than you can imagine.
Not knocking you personally, but I don't get guys who frequent Colombia or other latin countries, want to meet and connect with their women, but don't learn spanish.
Good luck.
Member #3435
11-25-10, 04:10
I live in Medellin, in the last few months 8 gringos I know that live here were robbed at gun point by local guys, and two pairs of guys were drugged then robbed by little hotties they met in parque lleras. One dude was out for 36 hours the thieves ran up 53k in charges on his credit cards while he was sleeping off the drugs. There is a drug war going on in envigado now and has been for several months. 18 people where shot and killed there a month ago, as a result I think a lot of the street dealers don't have any blow to sell so are turning to robbing gringos to make ends meet. Last month at lunch time two locals robbed a colombian lady in the middle of parque lleras, they snatched her purse, but a guard for one of the bars pulled his gun on them and held them until the cops got there to arrest them. There have been a lot more cops in lleras since this happened. 4 guys I know from Costa Rica were robbed at gun point in front of the house where they killed escobar a month ago, they lost their cameras and wallets and cash, it did make it a memorable trip however. Keep I'm mind this isn't disney world.
Something not right with this poster. Suddenly shows up and he's all over the place quoting posts and then responding with something that has no relevance to the post he's cited or;
in the case of the post quoted above, he cites a post from Golfinho recommending MDE when Golfinho recently said he was done with MDE because he thought it was spent.
No time nor desire to sort out or research this but,
it aint addin up.
Schwmm
Something not right with this poster. Suddenly shows up and he's all over the place quoting posts and then responding with something that has no relevance to the post he's cited or;
in the case of the post quoted above, he cites a post from Golfinho recommending MDE when Golfinho recently said he was done with MDE because he thought it was spent.
No time nor desire to sort out or research this but,
it aint addin up.
Schwmm
For starters escobar was killed in 1993.....
Zig Monger
11-25-10, 07:34
Something not right with this poster. Suddenly shows up and he's all over the place quoting posts and then responding with something that has no relevance to the post he's cited or;
in the case of the post quoted above, he cites a post from Golfinho recommending MDE when Golfinho recently said he was done with MDE because he thought it was spent.
No time nor desire to sort out or research this but,
it aint addin up.
SchwmmWell, I have heard about the scolpomine drugings going on and an increase in robberies on another board, so I think some of his info could be valid. Has anyone heard of DAS monitoring the net? I hear something is up! Anyone hear anything?
For starters escobar was killed in 1993.....He is saying that they were robbed a month ago in front of the home where Escobar was killed!
However I think they could have made it a little clearer had they structured their sentence a little better.
Vandaddio,
It would good for you to know how to spell both countries. I copied and pasted the header above from your post.
So:
It's Philippines NOT Phillipines
It's Colombia Not Columbia
Anyway:
I have tried both. I like both.
Aside from bigger difference of cost and time to get to either country:
You can find pussy in the same price range in both countries.
You can also find great GFE in both countries.
Why compare? I try not to. I choose just to try as many countries as I can fit into my time allotment on this earth.
Stay Horny My Friends,
CubanutDayum dude. Those little hotties from the Philippines make the hos at The Mansion look like fat hogs. I need to get my ass down there, I luv the spinners.
Hi Justafool,
I have been going to all those centro bars, Conejitas, Las Americas, Maracaibo and Ejecutiva, for 3-4 years. All the door men are like that and I don´t even look "gringo", just a bit like an upperty class Colombian. They ask anybody that looks like they have money. They are a pest, specially the bar tenders at Barra Ejecutiva. I finally got tired of going to those bars precisely for that reason. I will say that the "Conejita" doormen are not as bad, but the other 3 are deplorable.
You will not be harrassed at Fase ll, San Diego and Luna Lunera. They are more expensive, but the quality of girls is much better and you don´t have to put up with the asshole doormen. I complaint once to one of the managers at Maracaibo, and even to the doormen themselves, and told them that all they are doing is chasing away potential customers, but they are too stupid to understand or care. They just see a gringo, or anybody that looks like he´s well to do, like a personal Mac machine, or Public Assistance worker.
Frank Casio !Every time I go to San Diego the door man asks me to buy him a beer. And a do mean every time.
Aussie Greg
11-25-10, 16:26
Just my two cent worth with this guys statements, Aussie Greg.
I live in Medellin, in the last few months 8 gringos I know that live here were robbed at gun point by local guys, and two pairs of guys were drugged then robbed by little hotties they met in parque lleras. One dude was out for 36 hours the thieves ran up 53k in charges on his credit cards while he was sleeping off the drugs.
A.G.
This statement is correct as I know the guys, didnt know about the 35k though, what a catch !!
There is a drug war going on in envigado now and has been for several months. 18 people where shot and killed there a month ago, as a result I think a lot of the street dealers don't have any blow to sell so are turning to robbing gringos to make ends meet.
A.G.
The war has subsided a little, the war was a few months ago, it was between the gangs in Itagui and Envigado, a few pay backs by either side.
Last month at lunch time two locals robbed a colombian lady in the middle of parque lleras, they snatched her purse, but a guard for one of the bars pulled his gun on them and held them until the cops got there to arrest them. There have been a lot more cops in lleras since this happened.
A.G.
This happens all over Medellin, all our employess here at Hotel Casa Blanca Medellin have been mugged so why is this statement any different.
4 guys I know from Costa Rica were robbed at gun point in front of the house where they killed escobar a month ago, they lost their cameras and wallets and cash, it did make it a memorable trip however. Keep I'm mind this isn't disney world.
A.G.
True statement but one of them was a Colombian taxi driver "Hector", tthis isnt Disney World !!! no, its better.
Aussie Greg
MiamiHeatLuver
11-25-10, 16:34
Nice follow up AG..
Now fellas. How many of you guys novias have been "robbed and mugged" at gun point of their iphones or new blackberry that you just bought for her, and now she needs you to be replace it immediately or she cannot keep in touch with you? This is a common practice in Colombia. lol
Happy Thanksgiving and Mongering American gringos!
The Tall Man
11-25-10, 18:53
Nice follow up AG..
Now fellas. How many of you guys novias have been "robbed and mugged" at gun point of their iphones or new blackberry that you just bought for her, and now she needs you to be replace it immediately or she cannot keep in touch with you? This is a common practice in Colombia. lol
Happy Thanksgiving and Mongering American gringos!
Thats funny, but allot of truth in it :-)))
The Tall Man
Lights are crap ... WTF!! I love the lights. Last Christmas when I was down it was unreal, like a drug trip. And I'm only talking about the lights in Lleras and El parque Presidential. The lights at Christmas are the bomb!
Avenida la Playa - Danza de la Lluvia
Plazuela Nutibara
Edificio EPM
Paisaje de agua y de luz en el río - Vista desde el edificio EPM
Pabellón 2 - Escenario de Navidad - La lluvia de estrellas
Avenida San Juan - Cielo de estrellas
Avenida San Juan - Cazador de estrellas
You can take these great drunken bus rides with the ladies and see all the lights and have a great time. I never tire of the lights. I don't know what you are comparing it to, but why don't you compare the light display in Medellín to the dump where you live?
SlamCity7777
11-25-10, 20:47
lights are crap ... wtf!! i love the lights. last christmas when i was down it was unreal, like a drug trip. and i'm only talking about the lights in lleras and el parque presidential. the lights at christmas are the bomb!
avenida la playa - danza de la lluvia
plazuela nutibara
edificio epm
paisaje de agua y de luz en el río - vista desde el edificio epm
pabellón 2 - escenario de navidad - la lluvia de estrellas
avenida san juan - cielo de estrellas
avenida san juan - cazador de estrellas
you can take these great drunken bus rides with the ladies and see all the lights and have a great time. i never tire of the lights. i don't know what you are comparing it to, but why don't you compare the light display in medellín to the dump where you live?i'm guessing you're talking to me chesrep001 with the subject "slammer" and that i made the comment recently about the light being crap.
let me ask; why do so many people over react when a different opinion is offered?
"you wrote "wtf!! and "why don't you compare the light display in medellín to the dump where you live?" childish and borderline ignorant. why the personal attack just because i disagree with you? i feel sorry for people like you. i do.
relax pal, and yep been there done that. i spent two decembers in mede so i've seen the lights. you live in mede? wow you're special. i've taken the "drunken bus rides", they're called chivas by the way pascero. seen the lights with my buddy and his family(that was pretty cool because little kids make magic during the holidays), taken the chivas with big groups of "normal" chicks and dudes passing around the bottles of aguadente, joints/blunts and beers, and done the lights with me and my (ex)girl.
i stand by my comments. i've seen better lights in peoples front yards when i lived in texas!
i grew up in the north east so please excuse me if a gang of lights over a river and a few streets doesn't ring my bell. no amount of lights can compete with the "christmas magic" of crisp cold air in your lungs, of a quite, light, soft snow falling late at night illuminated by a street light.
granted medellin has better weather and hotter chicas!!
I have been to MDE at least six times and have never been nor seen anything, muggings, robberies or anything else. But then, I don't go out late at night, and always try to keep my wits about me. I do go to the Centro casas during the day, but don't stop to admire the scenery.
If a little hottie EVER came up to me out of the blue in Lleras, I'd be immediately very suspicious, and any other gringo should be as well. There are far safer ways to meet them than that
Hahaha. Well, because Cartagena is no longer Cartagena, it's now called San Jose de Cartagena.
It's all about the tourists in Cartagena.
Medellin is really much more of a normal city, except for your known street walker areas, girls just aren't going to approach you like that, and you don't need to wear shorts to be known as a gringo in those girly areas.
Sometimes it's good and beneficial to stand out as a gringo and well, sometimes it ain't.
Downtown Medellin isn't el Laguito and neither is el Central en Cali.
Crime and gang-wars are up in these cities. Low key is in.
Oh, and in their culture, away from the beach, it looks dorky.
I do have a dream though, and I think it's coming, of the streets of Medellin filled with overweight tourists in Bermuda shorts, Nikes, knee high white socks, fanny packs, and a few cameras around the shoulder heading to a Tea Party, and then in the afternoon a run to a casa to get layed. Hahaha.
Just kidding, about the dream that is.
Good luckI see douche bag gringos dressed like that everyday in Parque Lleras. They are fucking clueless as to how fucking ridiculous they look. The locals laugh at them. Medellin will be like Costa Rica in a few more years. It's such a shame. I was hanging out with some of my colombian friends and a dick wad gringo walks up to our table and asked about the food, he said he went to Panama several times and all the pretty girls there were colombian so he decided to come to the source. As soon as he walked away one of the colombian girls at the table said in perfect english "what a fucking asshole, that loser is only here to fuck our women do some of our cocaine and will be too fucking cheap to even buy a souvenir t shirt. We don't want assholes like that coming to our country. " you guys are really turning the locals against us other gringos that live here and contribute to the economy and country. 15 colombians work for me, and all my colombian friends treat me really well. If things don't change, soon the good colombians will be turning a blind eye as gringos get robbed in front of them on the streets. Provecho while you can. Because things are a changin fast
Zig Monger
11-26-10, 04:36
I have been to MDE at least six times and have never been nor seen anything, muggings, robberies or anything else. But then, I don't go out late at night, and always try to keep my wits about me. I do go to the Centro casas during the day, but don't stop to admire the scenery.
If a little hottie EVER came up to me out of the blue in Lleras, I'd be immediately very suspicious, and any other gringo should be as well. There are far safer ways to meet them than thatHey, If my friend, who is on this board, and a highly experienced traveller, can be taken(threat of gun) by a "couple of well dressed Colombianos" on a Sunday moning in Laurales, then Ya better knock on wood! I have not had a problem in 7 trips there, either, but I was mugged in Costa Rica, and my first trip in Mde my friend and I caught a renegade taxi at 3 am. The taxi was going to an area we knew was dicey. Just then the cops stopped him, and we got out, and they searched the taxisita. Asked us where we were staying. And they told the taxi to get us back, pronto. Hard to say what he had planned. AS AUSSIE SAYS, THIS is not DISNYLAND!
Something not right with this poster. Suddenly shows up and he's all over the place quoting posts and then responding with something that has no relevance to the post he's cited or;
in the case of the post quoted above, he cites a post from Golfinho recommending MDE when Golfinho recently said he was done with MDE because he thought it was spent.
No time nor desire to sort out or research this but,
it aint addin up.
SchwmmSchwmm, I live here and don't ned help finding girls, therefore I am never on the board. I joined the site when I decided to move out of Costa Rica and a lot of my cr friends returned after colombian vacations telling this was the place to go. A friend of mine came down on vacation a few days ago and I hit the boards for a copy of the most recent casa map for him. Read through some post and thought I would give my. 02. Now do things add up for you?
For starters escobar was killed in 1993.....Verdad, sorry I didn't word my report a little better, but the guys I know from Costa Rica were robbed last month on their vacation in Medellin while taking pics of the house where escobar was killed in 1993 a. D. To be more specific.
Just my two cent worth with this guys statements, Aussie Greg.
I live in Medellin, in the last few months 8 gringos I know that live here were robbed at gun point by local guys, and two pairs of guys were drugged then robbed by little hotties they met in parque lleras. One dude was out for 36 hours the thieves ran up 53k in charges on his credit cards while he was sleeping off the drugs.
A.G.
This statement is correct as I know the guys, didnt know about the 35k though, what a catch !!
There is a drug war going on in envigado now and has been for several months. 18 people where shot and killed there a month ago, as a result I think a lot of the street dealers don't have any blow to sell so are turning to robbing gringos to make ends meet.
A.G.
The war has subsided a little, the war was a few months ago, it was between the gangs in Itagui and Envigado, a few pay backs by either side.
Last month at lunch time two locals robbed a colombian lady in the middle of parque lleras, they snatched her purse, but a guard for one of the bars pulled his gun on them and held them until the cops got there to arrest them. There have been a lot more cops in lleras since this happened.
A.G.
This happens all over Medellin, all our employess here at Hotel Casa Blanca Medellin have been mugged so why is this statement any different.
4 guys I know from Costa Rica were robbed at gun point in front of the house where they killed escobar a month ago, they lost their cameras and wallets and cash, it did make it a memorable trip however. Keep I'm mind this isn't disney world.
A.G.
True statement but one of them was a Colombian taxi driver "Hector", tthis isnt Disney World !!! no, its better.
Aussie GregWhen I say this isn't disney world, no one has ever been robbed at gun point disney world that I know of, and you do not need to have your guard up 24/7 like you do down here. I like to go a lot of places that my colombian pals avoid for safety reasons, but I NEVER get drunk when I go to these places and always watch my 6. Several USA papers have published articles in the last month about how the cocaine days and drug lords are a thing of the past in Medellin. Well that's a crock of shit, just want the people that do come here to be aware that you need to be careful here. A few days ago yahoo had listed Medellin as a great, safe, and inexpensive place to retire, the article was fairly accurate but I think it was a stretch as far as the safety part. Florida is full of crack heads and thieves but I definitely feel a lot safer in fla than Medellin.
Rm
Something not right with this poster. Suddenly shows up and he's all over the place quoting posts and then responding with something that has no relevance to the post he's cited or;
in the case of the post quoted above, he cites a post from Golfinho recommending MDE when Golfinho recently said he was done with MDE because he thought it was spent.
No time nor desire to sort out or research this but,
it aint addin up.
SchwmmBTW Schwmm,
I'm also a member of another site but never posted there either, because I was living in cr and to busy partying to spend time posting. Kinda like now that I'm living in Medellin I never spend time on ISG because I'm partying my balls off all the time. I can see how if you live in the states and have lots of free time, you might enjoy spending hours on the board planning your next trip or keeping tabs on your western union novia. LOL things starting to add up for ya now? Cierto! Oops have to go as it's prime time at La mayorista. Suerte
Hi Guys, What is the problem with appearing Americanized. While I was in CTG I mostly wore khaki shorts and Nike polos. This worked to my advantage there because everyone knew I was not from there. I would say after about 5 sec of making eye contact the girl would ask " de donde eres". Where are you from. Just replied and smiled California USA. Girls lved that I hooked up with mor locL girls than pros and each encounter with a local gis happend that way. Why is this different in MDE. I it because of the weather?There are a lot of people in Medellin with huge coin, the gringos I know that have lived here for more than 5 or 6 years tell me things are changing for the worse. My buddys tell me 6 years ago a gringo in parque lleras would get a lot of attention from the local gals, but not anymore. Sometimes it is hard to even make eye contact with some girls in lleras. I think they are growing tiered of the gringos in a hurry. Look at what Costa Rica has become! I won't take as long to happen in Colombia as I think the colombians are a lot smarter and prouder people than the ticos. Medllin is a really beautiful city I hope it doesn't start getting scary dangerous like it was 20 years ago.
Time will tell.
Every time I go to San Diego the door man asks me to buy him a beer. And a do mean every time.Ratman1,
I hear that at San Diego and at the El Centro strip clubs. It doesn't faze me any more than it fazes the door men with my response; "Proximo vez, amigo"!
("Next time, friend"!). Just a game they play. No ones feelings get hurt. The only thing I would gripe about is that they only ask Gringos
BTW- For those regulars that are raising a brow at Ratman1 several postings:
I for one like to see that a new arrival to the board is actually taking the time to go through and read up on the older posts. How many times have we heard the same questions asked over and over by those that don't take the time to study up on the valuable info in those reports? This guys digging deep and commenting appropriately.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Ignore him and he will go away.You could just stick you head in a hole like an ostrich. You might have noticed I do not have a business to promote here in Medellin. As some folks on the board do. I call them as I see them, and do not sugar coat things. Feel free to come on down and enjoy Medellin but you really do need to watch your 6 down here. I have a lot of colombian friends and they all tell me it is getting more dangerous, my gringo friends that have lived here for many years tell me the same thing. If I say had a business that relied on gringos coming here to make money I too would want to play down the crime and violence, but like I said I live here to have fun and have no tourist related businesses to promote! The gringos that live here we meet for lunch everyday at cafe juan valdez in parque lleras at 11:45 then go have lunch together. A lot of the guys in the group have lived here for years and have tons of knowledge about Medellin. Several of the guys are x military and have worked with the colombian government combating FARC and the drug gangs. Feel free to join us, the guys can hook you up with any service you might need as far a doctors, dentists, lawyers, visa help, plus they are a lot of fun to hang out with. They helped me a lot when I decided to move here, I was introduced to an honest lawyer which is hard to come by in Central and South America. LOL
Absolutely true what you said, what I was saying effectively is agreeing with the point that MDE is anything but Disneyland, and one always has to have their wits about them. Also, one can get mugged anywhere, Latin America or anyplace else, but what one of the other posters mentioned was about how to dress. Any gringo who does not fall into the local mode of dressing, and stands out, could be asking for trouble.
My point was more about a chica in PL coming up to you out of the blue for no apparent reason. The last time I was in MDE (a couple months ago), I met someone where that very thing happened, she must have put dope in his drink or something, and wound up robbing him. This guy appeared very naive, the kind that a girl could pick up on. They are all on the lookout for the stupid gringo who is busy thinking with his johnson
When I say this isn't disney world, no one has ever been robbed at gun point disney world that I know of, and you do not need to have your guard up 24/7 like you do down here. RmDisney World actually encompasses a large area, not just the Magic Kingdom that many people think of as Disney World. When Pleasure Island was open, there were quite a few crimes committed there, including robberies and at least one shooting. Maybe that is why Pleasure Island is history. There are still some robberies at Disney World, but not widely reported.
Aussie Greg
11-27-10, 00:20
I probley have more colombian friends than any one.
I have been told by them that the drug trade has never been bigger, its just more under the radar now.
A.G.
When I say this isn't disney world, no one has ever been robbed at gun point disney world that I know of, and you do not need to have your guard up 24/7 like you do down here. I like to go a lot of places that my colombian pals avoid for safety reasons, but I NEVER get drunk when I go to these places and always watch my 6. Several USA papers have published articles in the last month about how the cocaine days and drug lords are a thing of the past in Medellin. Well that's a crock of shit, just want the people that do come here to be aware that you need to be careful here. A few days ago yahoo had listed Medellin as a great, safe, and inexpensive place to retire, the article was fairly accurate but I think it was a stretch as far as the safety part. Florida is full of crack heads and thieves but I definitely feel a lot safer in fla than Medellin.
Rm
I see douche bag gringos dressed like that everyday in Parque Lleras. They are fucking clueless as to how fucking ridiculous they look. The locals laugh at them. Medellin will be like Costa Rica in a few more years. It's such a shame ...
Oh boy, please don't get me going.
Hey Medellin is a great place, the secret's out though, it's been out for a while actually.
I do miss the days before maps of el central casas, Loutron at 220K pesos, gringos with fanny packs, etc, etc.
Things change, however, and that's just the way it is.
Guys will keep coming cause the chicas are hot and cheap, though it does amaze me that guys are paying $400 USD for a few hours or so with a hot barrio chica.
Medellin is a fun place, I still dig it, and welcome to all, but I'm exploring other pastures for settling down.
Take care amigo ...
Member #3435
11-27-10, 04:59
Schwmm, I live here and don't ned help finding girls, therefore I am never on the board. I joined the site when I decided to move out of Costa Rica and a lot of my cr friends returned after colombian vacations telling this was the place to go. A friend of mine came down on vacation a few days ago and I hit the boards for a copy of the most recent casa map for him. Read through some post and thought I would give my. 02. Now do things add up for you?
Sure dude. It all adds up.
You're the bomb.
But in your initial posts you sure as hell came off as some crack fueled spammer.
Just my 02 cents.
Good Luck.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-27-10, 05:36
BTW Schwmm,
I'm also a member of another site but never posted there either, because I was living in cr and to busy partying to spend time posting. Kinda like now that I'm living in Medellin I never spend time on ISG because I'm partying my balls off all the time. I can see how if you live in the states and have lots of free time, you might enjoy spending hours on the board planning your next trip or keeping tabs on your western union novia. LOL things starting to add up for ya now? Cierto! Oops have to go as it's prime time at La mayorista. Suerte
Wow, I kinda like this guy! Geez and I though I was the #1 Obnoxious, Realist, Cynical Bastard on this board! je je lol!
p.s. CUBANUT, how the F did you get demoted to "regular member" again? ja ja lol
The Tall Man
11-27-10, 06:43
You could just stick you head in a hole like an ostrich. You might have noticed I do not have a business to promote here in Medellin. As some folks on the board do. I call them as I see them, and do not sugar coat things. Feel free to come on down and enjoy Medellin but you really do need to watch your 6 down here. I have a lot of colombian friends and they all tell me it is getting more dangerous, my gringo friends that have lived here for many years tell me the same thing. If I say had a business that relied on gringos coming here to make money I too would want to play down the crime and violence, but like I said I live here to have fun and have no tourist related businesses to promote! The gringos that live here we meet for lunch everyday at cafe juan valdez in parque lleras at 11:45 then go have lunch together. A lot of the guys in the group have lived here for years and have tons of knowledge about Medellin. Several of the guys are x military and have worked with the colombian government combating FARC and the drug gangs. Feel free to join us, the guys can hook you up with any service you might need as far a doctors, dentists, lawyers, visa help, plus they are a lot of fun to hang out with. They helped me a lot when I decided to move here, I was introduced to an honest lawyer which is hard to come by in Central and South America. LOL
Ratman1 -On Dec 15-27 is my fourth trip to Colombia but my first to Medellin. First off I am not at all heavy into P4P (use to be 10 years ago) so my day consists of a lot of walking the city (daytime), museums, sitting at a cafe for hours reading a book and writing, these kinds of things.
Spent the month of May in Bogota and wore nice jeans and a clean shirt with no writing or god forbid flowers on it, jejeje - my question:
In Medellin I plan on dressing up a notch or two, nice dark slacks, long sleeve dressy shirt w/collar, does this help me blend in or stand out? BTW I got one SMALL problem with me that I can not do anything about, I am a 6'-7" (201 cm), so I even stand out here in SoCal.
I am getting just a bit reserved when I read these rob stories. I wish some one could just "Say it aint so".
Thanks, The Tall Man
Ratman1 -On Dec 15-27 is my fourth trip to Colombia but my first to Medellin. First off I am not at all heavy into P4P (use to be 10 years ago) so my day consists of a lot of walking the city (daytime), museums, sitting at a cafe for hours reading a book and writing, these kinds of things.
Spent the month of May in Bogota and wore nice jeans and a clean shirt with no writing or god forbid flowers on it, jejeje - my question:
In Medellin I plan on dressing up a notch or two, nice dark slacks, long sleeve dressy shirt w/collar, does this help me blend in or stand out? BTW I got one SMALL problem with me that I can not do anything about, I am a 6'-7" (201 cm), so I even stand out here in SoCal.
I am getting just a bit reserved when I read these rob stories. I wish some one could just "Say it aint so".
Thanks, The Tall ManTall Man,
Some guys get to relaxed and lose their comfort zone(not to say they should be robbed). We get incorporated into the community and relax. Fuck that, always keep your awareness and be unpredictable.
My rules:
(1) Never get totally fucked up that you don't care.
(2) Never tell your personal biz, where your staying, what you do, or where you keep your valuables.
(3) When leaving the club never take the first taxi, cross the street and catch a taxi, or step around the corner wait 30 seconds and see who looks around it. Personally I always take the third cab.
(4) don't let girls fix a drink for you at the crib.
(5) Put all valuables in the safe, passport, cash and credit cards. Only keep out cash for the transaction.
(6) If your in a secured builing tip the guards and let them know its standard to walk the girls out. If she comes out alone something is wrong. I always walk the girl out as a sign everything is cool(plus the girls think its romantic).
(7) Watch the waiters, they will act dumb with your change, ask for your money.
(8) When in Mayorista never sit alone looking like a newbie mark. I always play the wall with the hookers when alone or grab a beer and play the sidelines.
(9) don't force yourself into a fucked up situation hoping it will be okay. Its okay to go home and jack off LMAO.
(10) For me personally if they bring up drugs I'm out.
Follow these guidelines and you will be okay. You are 6'7, you stand out.
Ratman1 -On Dec 15-27 is my fourth trip to Colombia but my first to Medellin. First off I am not at all heavy into P4P (use to be 10 years ago) so my day consists of a lot of walking the city (daytime), museums, sitting at a cafe for hours reading a book and writing, these kinds of things.
Spent the month of May in Bogota and wore nice jeans and a clean shirt with no writing or god forbid flowers on it, jejeje - my question:
In Medellin I plan on dressing up a notch or two, nice dark slacks, long sleeve dressy shirt w/collar, does this help me blend in or stand out? BTW I got one SMALL problem with me that I can not do anything about, I am a 6'-7" (201 cm), so I even stand out here in SoCal.
I am getting just a bit reserved when I read these rob stories. I wish some one could just "Say it aint so".
Thanks, The Tall ManThe women all dress to the 9's when they go out to the nice bars and clubs, the ladies will notice the way you guess without a doubt. Just go out to one of the nice malls, most of the women that walk past you will check you out and take a good look at your shoes. I read every thing ever posted on ISG about Medellin before I moved here and didn't take the dress for success advice to heart. The advice was 100 percent correct. All the colombians I hang out with dress in nice quality oxford shirts or polo shirts on warm days, slacks, belt, nice, shoes. The third day I was here I went shopping at one of the malls and had flip flops on 95 percent of the ladies I walked past check me out top to bottom and seemed to dwell on my flip flops! Haven't worn them in public since. You taking the effort to dress well WILL be appreciated by any woman that isn't a p4p, don't worry about your height, at 6'7" you would scare the hell out of me. I would pick a smaller target to rob. LOL there are lots of colombianos with green and blue eyes so until a gringo opens his mouth to speak they don't know you are not a local. The locals can tell a gringo in a minute if he dresses like he is heading to the beach in shorts and a wife beater t shirt.
Enjoy your trip,
RM
Sure dude. It all adds up.
You're the bomb.
But in your initial posts you sure as hell came off as some crack fueled spammer.
Just my 02 cents.
Good Luck.
Dude I am not the bomb but do enjoy watching people, if you watch the locals you will learn from them. I was fortunate in that right off the bat I met a really popular local businessman and he introduced them to all his friends. Everywhere we go together everybody knows this dude and they all come over to say hello. And I mean everywhere, even an hour or two outside Medellin. It kinda trips me out sometimes. He is well liked and I'm hanging with a kewl crowd that others gravitate too, just luck of the draw I guess.
Didn't mean to come off so heavy but I think when a travel reporter takes a few day trip and does a LITTLE research and writes about how safe Medellin is and that the cocaine days are over and I know otherwise because I live hear and hear first hand accounts of my friends being robbed or drugged. It scares me too, I have changed my mo, I always make sure I'm not being tailed when I leave any part of town that's a little sketchy. Even when I stopped at a red light, one of my pals was robbed at gun point while waiting at a light, motorcycles can cut cars and ride the dotted line and always move to the front at traffic lights. My friend had his wife and child in the car when a motorcycle pulls up next to him, the kid on the back stuck a gun in his face and tore his gold chain off his neck, ran the red light and was gone. You just really need to watch your six. What really made this sink in, was one day I'm out having lunch with one of my ex military pals and he insisted we were seated so he had a view of the street in front of the bar in case anything bad happened he wouldn't be taken by surprise. This dude is a bad ass, so him being wary made me twice as wary of my surroundings ever since.
RM
Oh boy, please don't get me going.
Hey Medellin is a great place, the secret's out though, it's been out for a while actually.
I do miss the days before maps of el central casas, Loutron at 220K pesos, gringos with fanny packs, etc, etc.
Things change, however, and that's just the way it is.
Guys will keep coming cause the chicas are hot and cheap, though it does amaze me that guys are paying $400 USD for a few hours or so with a hot barrio chica.
Medellin is a fun place, I still dig it, and welcome to all, but I'm exploring other pastures for settling down.
Take care amigo ...I know! I took a smokin little hottie from la mayorista to my hotel a month of so after I got here, did her for a few hours gave her 100 mil, she said no it's 200 mil, I said "what? Your fuckin loco". She said the last gringo gave her 200 mil, I told her I can't help he was an idiot. Be happy you got the 100. She thought about it for a minute smiled and laughed about with me and I called her a cab.
John Gault
11-27-10, 16:09
Ratman1 -On Dec 15-27 is my fourth trip to Colombia but my first to Medellin. First off I am not at all heavy into P4P (use to be 10 years ago) so my day consists of a lot of walking the city (daytime), museums, sitting at a cafe for hours reading a book and writing, these kinds of things.
Spent the month of May in Bogota and wore nice jeans and a clean shirt with no writing or god forbid flowers on it, jejeje - my question:
In Medellin I plan on dressing up a notch or two, nice dark slacks, long sleeve dressy shirt w/collar, does this help me blend in or stand out? BTW I got one SMALL problem with me that I can not do anything about, I am a 6'-7" (201 cm), so I even stand out here in SoCal.
I am getting just a bit reserved when I read these rob stories. I wish some one could just "Say it aint so".
Thanks, The Tall Man
At close to 7 feet you will stand out in Latin America no matter what you wear. Also 95% of all other Gringos will stand out no matter what they wear. This notion of blending in is fine if it makes you feel secure, but make no mistake the Natives will know you in a heart beat no matter what you wear.
Miami or Colombia, a guy in a loud tee shirt and flipflops will look like a rube. So IMHO A guy should wear what he feels he looks good in. In CTG, BAQ where it is very hot I wear a good pair of shorts and nice sandals. Of course at night I wear long pants. Just the same as if I was in Gringo land.
I think it would make better sense for us Gringos to worry less about what we wear and concentrate more on how we behave. A loudmouth flashing money and disking the locals is much worse than a respectful guy dressed as he sees fit.
John Gault ( vics picks )
Tall Man,
Some guys get to relaxed and lose their comfort zone(not to say they should be robbed). We get incorporated into the community and relax. Fuck that, always keep your awareness and be unpredictable.
My rules:
(1) Never get totally fucked up that you don't care.
(2) Never tell your personal biz, where your staying, what you do, or where you keep your valuables.
(3) When leaving the club never take the first taxi, cross the street and catch a taxi, or step around the corner wait 30 seconds and see who looks around it. Personally I always take the third cab.
(4) don't let girls fix a drink for you at the crib.
(5) Put all valuables in the safe, passport, cash and credit cards. Only keep out cash for the transaction.
(6) If your in a secured builing tip the guards and let them know its standard to walk the girls out. If she comes out alone something is wrong. I always walk the girl out as a sign everything is cool(plus the girls think its romantic).
(7) Watch the waiters, they will act dumb with your change, ask for your money.
(8) When in Mayorista never sit alone looking like a newbie mark. I always play the wall with the hookers when alone or grab a beer and play the sidelines.
(9) don't force yourself into a fucked up situation hoping it will be okay. Its okay to go home and jack off LMAO.
(10) For me personally if they bring up drugs I'm out.
Follow these guidelines and you will be okay. You are 6'7, you stand out.I like the advice about being unpredictable. It is wise when in unfamiliar surroundings.
Something from another post caught my attention. Someone mentioned girls in Parque Lleras used to be impressed by seeing foreigners but now not so much. The same post mentioned a group of foreigners who meet in Parque Lleras EVERY DAY. Anyone else see a link there?
It's all good. My advice to Tall Man is to try to use the internet to help yourself blend in. A quick photo or video search for Medellin (avoid strip clubs and *****house results) will give you a preview of how people dress and the gestures they use. It's a good guideline. At 6'7" you will of course stand out anywhere except an NBA coaching convention but you can probably lessen the effect.
Member #4394
11-28-10, 01:29
That is exactly what I have been thinking about. No matter what, we stand oud. We better just focuse on being not offensive.
At close to 7 feet you will stand out in Latin America no matter what you wear. Also 95% of all other Gringos will stand out no matter what they wear. This notion of blending in is fine if it makes you feel secure, but make no mistake the Natives will know you in a heart beat no matter what you wear.
Miami or Colombia, a guy in a loud tee shirt and flipflops will look like a rube. So IMHO A guy should wear what he feels he looks good in. In CTG, BAQ where it is very hot I wear a good pair of shorts and nice sandals. Of course at night I wear long pants. Just the same as if I was in Gringo land.
I think it would make better sense for us Gringos to worry less about what we wear and concentrate more on how we behave. A loudmouth flashing money and disking the locals is much worse than a respectful guy dressed as he sees fit.
John Gault ( vics picks )
Member #4394
11-28-10, 04:36
I will be in Medellin next month, and this time I will bring my tablet PC (7" computer). Can I purchase WIFI covering city, so I can check net anywhere in city? Do you know rate and where should I go to purchase the plan?
Thanks a lot.
Tall Man,
Some guys get to relaxed and lose their comfort zone(not to say they should be robbed). We get incorporated into the community and relax. Fuck that, always keep your awareness and be unpredictable.
My rules:
(1) Never get totally fucked up that you don't care.
(2) Never tell your personal biz, where your staying, what you do, or where you keep your valuables.
(3) When leaving the club never take the first taxi, cross the street and catch a taxi, or step around the corner wait 30 seconds and see who looks around it. Personally I always take the third cab.
(4) don't let girls fix a drink for you at the crib.
(5) Put all valuables in the safe, passport, cash and credit cards. Only keep out cash for the transaction.
(6) If your in a secured builing tip the guards and let them know its standard to walk the girls out. If she comes out alone something is wrong. I always walk the girl out as a sign everything is cool(plus the girls think its romantic).
(7) Watch the waiters, they will act dumb with your change, ask for your money.
(8) When in Mayorista never sit alone looking like a newbie mark. I always play the wall with the hookers when alone or grab a beer and play the sidelines.
(9) don't force yourself into a fucked up situation hoping it will be okay. Its okay to go home and jack off LMAO.
(10) For me personally if they bring up drugs I'm out.
Follow these guidelines and you will be okay. You are 6'7, you stand out.
Good guidelines.
Bottom line: Don't be stupid
The Tall Man
11-28-10, 15:33
You guys are cool! Thank you all for your comments, suggestions and ideas about staying safe and avoiding trouble.
RM, the flip flop story was good. As it is very difficult to find my 16 shoe size in Colombia :-) let alone anywhere in Sotuh America, yesterday I purchased a great pair of dress shoes at Nordstroms (they carry my size, made in Spain) and will proudly display them, lol.
Mr Gogo, Great summary how to stay safe, mucho gracias!
John Gault, I ditto that about how we act. I have traveled to over 35 different countries and Islands and I make it a priority to always honor and respect the people, their culture, their city and their country. You are right because the locals do notice and they can sense your authenticity. In many countries and cities that I have visited (including Bogota) I have earned true friendships.
Bunas dias!
The TALL Man
In a nutshell the complaint against we Americans is we don't show the proper respect when in a foreign culture. So for us on this forum, the idea would be to show that respect and avoid being the ugly American. Re dressing, I think about this alot, and haven't really come up with a solution. For normal walking around and informal drinking, say at La Strada during daytime, there's really nothing wrong with jeans and a t-shirt. At Oviedo Mall, though, or somewhere nice at night, a nice shirt and slacks would be nice. The single article of clothing that should probably be changed out are shoes. I believe I will leave my Wal-Mart velcro tennis shoes at home this time, and wear some decent loafers. Although if you are staying on La Loma de Alejandria, you will be walking up and downhill a lot, so you may want to bear that in mind and make sure you have some comfortable walking shoes.
MiamiHeatLuver
11-28-10, 15:51
I will be in Medellin next month, and this time I will bring my tablet PC (7" computer). Can I purchase WIFI covering city, so I can check net anywhere in city? Do you know rate and where should I go to purchase the plan?
Thanks a lot.
Most apartments you rent or especially hotel or hostel will have Wifi, Most of the cafes in the south now have free wifi as well as the malls (I'm not quite sure which ones though). Do NOT make it a habit of carrying around and displaying your laptop, iphone, blackberry or tablet in the public You become an easy target for thugs on motos who won't think twice about capping somebody for an IPAD. Do your surfing in the safe com finds behind closed doors. Not sure if they have 3G yet in Colombia because I don't bring anything of value out of the apartment so hence no need for 3G.
Update: Found in another group, credit to O.P.
"Hi, I live in Colombia and I use my iPad with a 3G data plan a lot.
Here we have cellular companies 3 options. Comcel, Movistar and Tigo. All of three have a prepaid data plans. The only issue is that they don't have microsim, I had to cut the Sim card and it works very well on my iPad.
You can check COMCEL, MOVISTAR and TIGO web sites (don't forget to put ".co" at the end) for reviewing all prepaid data plan that they have. You can choose a day, a week and a month data plan unlimited without contract. All of them are 3G.
I hope this information can help you. "
...I think it would make better sense for us Gringos to worry less about what we wear and concentrate more on how we behave. A loudmouth flashing money and disking the locals is much worse than a respectful guy dressed as he sees fit.
John Gault ( vics picks )You said it very well. Earlier this month, I was riding the bus back from Guatape to Medellin and there were two young couples with British accents on the bus. They were drinking rum and being very loud, while all the other people on the bus were quiet or talking in low tones. I don't know if the locals can distinguish Brits from Americans; but since they were speaking English, my thoughts were that most people on the bus would label them as "Ugly Americans". I guess that is a burden we have to bear. Most English speakers being seen as Americans.
Hello, guys, there is a house party in Medellin on Jan 21st near parque lleras, entry is free if you do not drink, I. E you have to pay if you drink. About 30- 40 guests are invited including 25 girls. The apt is close to Parque lleras and directions, info and timings are posted on this site.
http://www.envigadovip.com
MiamiHeatLuver
11-30-10, 02:22
Hello, guys, there is a house party in Medellin on Jan 21st near parque lleras, entry is free if you do not drink, I. E you have to pay if you drink. About 30- 40 guests are invited including 25 girls. The apt is close to Parque lleras and directions, info and timings are posted on this site.
http://www.envigadovip.com
Romance Latina sent you because he got banned huh? lol
Aussie Greg
11-30-10, 02:40
Yep, I get it all the time and I'm quiet !!and by the way, I dress in shorts and t-shirts all the time, I'm not dressing up for anybody but put on a pair of jeans at night.
Aussie Greg.
You said it very well. Earlier this month, I was riding the bus back from Guatape to Medellin and there were two young couples with British accents on the bus. They were drinking rum and being very loud, while all the other people on the bus were quiet or talking in low tones. I don't know if the locals can distinguish Brits from Americans; but since they were speaking English, my thoughts were that most people on the bus would label them as "Ugly Americans". I guess that is a burden we have to bear. Most English speakers being seen as Americans.
Aussie Greg
11-30-10, 13:31
Yep, flogging a dead horse arnt they.
A.G.
Romance Latina sent you because he got banned huh? lol
At close to 7 feet you will stand out in Latin America no matter what you wear. Also 95% of all other Gringos will stand out no matter what they wear. This notion of blending in is fine if it makes you feel secure, but make no mistake the Natives will know you in a heart beat no matter what you wear.
Miami or Colombia, a guy in a loud tee shirt and flipflops will look like a rube. So IMHO A guy should wear what he feels he looks good in. In CTG, BAQ where it is very hot I wear a good pair of shorts and nice sandals. Of course at night I wear long pants. Just the same as if I was in Gringo land.
I think it would make better sense for us Gringos to worry less about what we wear and concentrate more on how we behave. A loudmouth flashing money and disking the locals is much worse than a respectful guy dressed as he sees fit.
John Gault ( vics picks )Good post buddy. I do disagree with a piece of it. The issue with dress is not about standing out, it is about respect. One does not have to dress to the nines, but basic respect to local costoms. Now some will say that they see Colombian men wearing shorts, but those are usually young bucks, not 30 plus year old men, middle class or higher. I can't tell you how many times I have overheard the chicas talking shit about the way some foolish gringo dresses- it just can't be good for the overall quality of sessions. Of course, some take the "I can do what I want and fuck everyone else approach" tha some take her, but that, in the long term, leads to ill feelings on the part of those wherever we travel. IMHO.
Speaking only for myself. I honestly would not be caught dead in shorts anywhere except my home, the gym, and sometimes at the beach. Those are all places where most everybody else also wears shorts. The thought of walking down the high street in a small town or through a shopping center or in Times Square, Piccadilly Circus, Oxford Street, the Champs-Elysee, or the Bund. WHATEVER THE WEATHER. Just seems odd.
I wouldn't be caught dead in a pair of shorts in Medellin, but then I don't hang with a pack *****s every day. I take very seriously the fact that how I act will effect how other gringos will be perceived/received in the years to come. I guess some gringos could give a shit about these things, they must only be thinking of themselves!
Colashermosas
12-01-10, 11:01
Have anyone met her and is she good?
What does she charge?
http://hotchicabella.webnode.es
Aussie Greg
12-01-10, 15:25
Ratman "nice name".
Yes, I think of myself. I promise not to wear white socks up to my knees mate !!
Aussie Greg.
I wouldn't be caught dead in a pair of shorts in Medellin, but then I don't hang with a pack *****s every day. I take very seriously the fact that how I act will effect how other gringos will be perceived/received in the years to come. I guess some gringos could give a shit about these things, they must only be thinking of themselves!
Speaking only for myself. I honestly would not be caught dead in shorts anywhere except my home, the gym, and sometimes at the beach. Those are all places where most everybody else also wears shorts. The thought of walking down the high street in a small town or through a shopping center or in Times Square, Piccadilly Circus, Oxford Street, the Champs-Elysee, or the Bund. WHATEVER THE WEATHER. Just seems odd.The 'high street'? in 'a small town'? Okay.
The Tall Man
12-01-10, 16:09
Good post buddy. I do disagree with a piece of it. The issue with dress is not about standing out, it is about respect. One does not have to dress to the nines, but basic respect to local costoms. Now some will say that they see Colombian men wearing shorts, but those are usually young bucks, not 30 plus year old men, middle class or higher. I can't tell you how many times I have overheard the chicas talking shit about the way some foolish gringo dresses- it just can't be good for the overall quality of sessions. Of course, some take the "I can do what I want and fuck everyone else approach" tha some take her, but that, in the long term, leads to ill feelings on the part of those wherever we travel. IMHO.
Valid point Psychman about the respect and I must agree that it is relative to the quality of the interaction/session with the chica.
Even in TJ where I been frequenting for many years, at times, even when I don't want to dress up (shorts are main stay in SoCal), the reaction/attention that I have received from the chicas is astounding. They may be *****s but they really appreciate a man who is clean and well dressed.
They WANT to spend time with you as you are presenting yourself with confidence and by your manner of dress, respect. And they gladly give it!
The saying is so true to "Treat a ***** like a lady and a lady like a *****". This "Treatment" includes the respect shown to a working lady by being clean and dressed nicely.
Many times, when I put on a nice pair of slacks and a long sleeve button down shirt they will always comment how nice I look. This usually leads to a great time/session with the gal.
I think I will be packing some of my Nordstroms finest along with my leather shoes made in Spain for my Medellin trip - two weeks away.
The Tall Man
Speaking only for myself. I honestly would not be caught dead in shorts anywhere except my home, the gym, and sometimes at the beach. Those are all places where most everybody else also wears shorts. The thought of walking down the high street in a small town or through a shopping center or in Times Square, Piccadilly Circus, Oxford Street, the Champs-Elysee, or the Bund. WHATEVER THE WEATHER. Just seems odd."The thought of walking down the high street in a small town". the high street in a small town -- in Colombia. The thought! lol. the thought that you're crazy to not wear long pants to keep the flies and mosquitos off.
Speaking only for myself. I honestly would not be caught dead in shorts anywhere except my home, the gym, and sometimes at the beach. Those are all places where most everybody else also wears shorts. The thought of walking down the high street in a small town or through a shopping center or in Times Square, Piccadilly Circus, Oxford Street, the Champs-Elysee, or the Bund. WHATEVER THE WEATHER. Just seems odd.
You obviously don't live in Florida :)
Valid point Psychman about the respect and I must agree that it is relative to the quality of the interaction/session with the chica.
Even in TJ where I been frequenting for many years, at times, even when I don't want to dress up (shorts are main stay in SoCal), the reaction/attention that I have received from the chicas is astounding. They may be *****s but they really appreciate a man who is clean and well dressed.
They WANT to spend time with you as you are presenting yourself with confidence and by your manner of dress, respect. And they gladly give it!
The saying is so true to "Treat a ***** like a lady and a lady like a *****". This "Treatment" includes the respect shown to a working lady by being clean and dressed nicely.
Many times, when I put on a nice pair of slacks and a long sleeve button down shirt they will always comment how nice I look. This usually leads to a great time/session with the gal.
I think I will be packing some of my Nordstroms finest along with my leather shoes made in Spain for my Medellin trip - two weeks away.
The Tall Man
I agree with the gist of your post, being clean and smelling nice, really does go a long way.
Amazing when chicas tell me how some guys lack good hygene.
Anyway, ya don't need Nordstroms finest when visiting the Medellin casas or even Face Dos, just bathe and look decent :)
Since you've posted that you're looking to meet nice non-pros, well then you're right, the Spanish made leather shoes will be a nice touch for them.
Hi Guys
Have RTFF and just wanted to ask a question. I will be in Columbia for two weeks and will be in Cartegna and Santa Marta and Bogota. Apart from the girls is Medellin worth visiting in and of itself?
Even from a girls perspectiv is it that much better than other places in Colombia that I should definitely include it in my trip? It would be a bg diversion for me to get there and just wondering if it is worth it or not.
Many thanks for your thoughts on this
BB
It would be a bg diversion for me to get there and just wondering if it is worth it or not.
Many thanks for your thoughts on this
BBNO. just one opinion. unless you like to go everywhere and check every box, this is a city you can skip. can say the same for some other big cities in Colombia. if you have time and want girls (and lots of hookers) or, if you are strictly a low-budget type guy, Medellin should be on your itinerary. otherwise, not much redeeming qualities. (have been four times, and that's plenty enough for me). of course, there are those who swear by Medellin and maybe you'll find out why from them.
Frank Casio
12-01-10, 22:20
Hi guys,
To put this in perspective, my last report was Tampa, FL night out $500US!
The contrast is enormous and I got the same thing and a little extra. I started around 7PM with a couple of beers at a bar in El Centro near Hotel Eros and Bar El Faro. Spent, $3k colombian pesos, roughly $1. 50US and feasted my eyes on a few cuties. Then walked passed "Conejitas" to Bar Las Americas. Had a rum, 5kcop and watched a few strippers, it was ok, but I've never been impressed much by this bar. Walked over a few steps to Bar Maracaibo, totally different scene. Many more "cuties" and some hot dancers. No harrassment by bar tenders, easy going. Had a beer and a rum, down another 10kcop, Tipped both door men and 3 strippers, down another 5kcop. It was around 9:45PM and decided I would hit down to La Mayorista before they closed the Metro at 10: 45PM.
I had not hung out in La Mayorista for almost 6 months. But what a nice suprise, it was packed on a Tuesday night. I realized soon after, when they started all the fireworks at midnight, that it was Dec. 1st when all the Christmas celebrations start. There must have been at least 20 doable cuties, dressed really nice and even some silicon valley boobs starting to pop up. I went into "El Encuentro", my regular hang out and where they now have an English menu which I personally translated, and surely enough my girl friends from all my time hanging out in La Mayorista started popping up and saying Hi! This used to annoy me as they would always be hitting me for money, but I decided, I have it, it's really not a lot, so why not help them out a little bit. In the end they do sit and party with me. I gave a few girls a tip, and even the shoe shine guy. Shared my food, "salchipapas", a few bites to a girl and the shoe shine guy happily ate my leftovers, mumbling something about how much food was wasted. I make it a point now, even when I was in Bogota to save and give my left overs to a homeless person, they really appreciate it. Tips, food and a few drinks for a couple of "cuties" had me down another 20kcop.
From there I ran into Diana, one of VicPics cuties. She had a friend with her, another Diana, newbie as I happily found out. They hit me for a couple of drinks and then asked me to by a quart of rum to take up and drink at My Place. I also purchased some ciggarrets, down another 15kcop. They came up to My Place, and Diana dragged one of my guests to come party. He was packing to leave today. The other 2 guys were nowhere to be found. We partied and joked, looked at pictures from previous parties at My Place which my guest J had downloaded to a webpage, and listen to some "reggeton". I got frisky after a while and started playing with the girls, then we started dancing and, well, you know what hat leads to!
We had given each of the girls 10kcop each just for being nice and hanging out, my part 10kcop. So when we were dancing I started feeling my girl and raising her dress, sticking my hands in her thongs. I finally couldn't hold back any longer and offered her another 20kcop if she let me phuck her in the sofa, as there were no rooms available. She was hesitant at first and shy, but agreed. I started stripping her down and she started doing the same to me at which point my guest J got all flustered and Diana pulled him into his room. I took my "cutie", opened her legs wide and started drilling her. I had convinced her earlier to do BBBJ as my guests would probably not be happy otherwise. I ussually try to teach them that off hand. She was so sweet, I could tell she was a newbie as she was enjoying it a lot, must have come 2-3 times that I could tell, while whispering that she loved sex. She lightly bit and sucked my nipples, and when I asked her if I could come, after about 25 minutes, she seemed like she wanted more, so I held back another 10-15 minutes and then just exploded, woooow, it was a good night!
So for roughly $50US I had a hell of a night, saved $450US from my last night in Tampa, FL and enjoyed the same things and some extras. Wow, only in Medellin Paradise can this feat be accomplished!
Frank Casio!
Golfinho, I really don't doubt that you have a very good point, I think most of us are simply trying to escape the hellhole (or sex prison) that we are fated to live in, and Medellín does offer an escape from that. But if price were less of an object, what places would you (and Ricker) choose? Buenos Aires, Río, Sao Paolo? Any other places in the western hemisphere?
Yeah I would love to go there but definitely need to prioritise...this trip is about seeing the country and culture, not just the w#oring...although i will do plenty of that in Santa Marta and Cartegena.
Heading to Argentina after Columbia and that WILL be a w#oring tip!
Actually Bogota has more mongering than Cartagena, Medellin, and S. Marta combined.
golfinho, i really don't doubt that you have a very good point, i think most of us are simply trying to escape the hellhole (or sex prison) that we are fated to live in, and medellín does offer an escape from that. but if price were less of an object, what places would you (and ricker) choose? buenos aires, río, sao paolo? any other places in the western hemisphere?that's the million $ question, c'cat. we only have so much time to play and the clock keeps winding the years' down. add to that, the possibility that the dollar is not going to outlive us, and we'll be stuck growing vegetables in our backyards in the usa homeland, or else scrounging in south america living like the other half. colombianas good, but a distant second best to the brasilieras. in fortaleza this week. some fun places. a little more going on than grimy provincial medellin. and, has a real beach and beautiful weather this time of year. was last month on asuncion and montevideo: good and bad things in both places. see every place that you can.
Hi Guys
Have RTFF and just wanted to ask a question. I will be in Columbia for two weeks and will be in Cartegna and Santa Marta and Bogota. Apart from the girls is Medellin worth visiting in and of itself?
Even from a girls perspectiv is it that much better than other places in Colombia that I should definitely include it in my trip? It would be a bg diversion for me to get there and just wondering if it is worth it or not ...Hey amigo, in ColOmbia, Medellin is known to have the finest women, however, you can meet these women all over Colombia, especially in Cartagena and Bogota and maybe even in Santa Marta.
I wouldn't run to Medellin and go out of my way just to see the city.
Enjoy the Paisas (Medellin girls) in the cities you'll be visiting, and make the next trip to Medellin maybe.
Happy travels
golfinho, i really don't doubt that you have a very good point, i think most of us are simply trying to escape the hellhole (or sex prison) that we are fated to live in, and medellín does offer an escape from that. but if price were less of an object, what places would you (and ricker) choose? buenos aires, río, sao paolo? any other places in the western hemisphere?i personally enjoy medellin. i like the climate and for sure the paisitas, and the people in general.
as we all know, there's a full range of pfp and nice non-pros to meet too.
as golfinho says, however, it's not like medellin is a thriving, high energy city with unlimited sites and venues.
for me though, it is a nice little city full of beautiful and friendly chicas.
i enjoy it every time.
my favorite country with my favorite girls on the planet is brazil.
i love the beauty of the colombiana, but the pizzazz and energy of the brasileira just wins me over.
brazil is definitely more expensive than colombia, especially for pfp, and more especially if you hit the touristy places.
i love sao paulo, brazil, however, it wasn't until i learned and became proficient in portuguese did i really start to fully enjoy the city.
very little tourist / gringo presence in sp and i've explored and found some great places to hang and hunt for both pro and non-pro.
for the novice. sp can be very expensive, especially compared to colombia.
rio is obviously a great place to visit, lots of fun to be had there and you don't have to break the bank either.
see a poster's guide there. bubba's rio guide. and also a poster named sperto, in the rio section and you'll see.
buenos aires, arg is also a fun place to visit. lots of venues for pfp and from low end to high end fun.
i beleive the most beautiful woman i've ever made love to was in ba, a german / arg mix beauty at a high end massage place.
the city is a great place to explore, very european and great restarantes and shows, etc to visit.
that said, the culture of argentina, at least in ba is not as affectionate and warm as either colombia or brazil.
i find the non-pro scene much more difficult and really don't even look for it much anymore.
to be honest, i do enjoy ba but the sweetest girls i meet there are from other surrounding countries, paraguay, brazil and even from the dom rep.
just my take guys.
happy holidays amigos!
TonySoprano
12-02-10, 19:40
I was wondering some of you guys are so adamant about BBBJ. Are you guys considering the health your exposing yourself too?
Thanks for the thoughts guys...i am in Panama City now and heading to Cuba tomorrow for one week followed by Colombia...will report accordingly!! Many thanks and i think under the circumstances i will stick to original pan and not go to Medellin.
As Golfinho says, however, it's not like Medellin is a thriving, high energy city with unlimited sites and venues.
For me though, it is a nice little city full of beautiful and friendly chicas.Golfinho said nor implied nothing of the sort. To with: Medellin is a place with many sites and venues for thriving, high energy unlimited low-budget sex, with poor girls, or more accurately, mothers. But, little in the way of high energy venues for some nicer activities, new trends, upscale progressive or however you call it: culture maybe is what the place lacks. IT was a provincial city from its founding during Spain's empire. And still is. The f*cking Cathedral is in an architectural style (if anybody's noticed it) I'd call "19th Century Brick Piece of Shit. " And Medellin is not a nice, little city: it's a big, nasty place where many lives are meanly lived. Though it has got many beautiful and friendly chicas you can take advantage of so long as you've got the hard currency: and that's its only redeeming charm. In fairness, most of the world IS like Medellin, and many places don't have weather that's half as nice. But to keep going back is only due to lack of imagination or insufficent finances. And, don't mean to offend anyone who's fallen in love with the place.
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I was wondering some of you guys are so adamant about BBBJ. Are you guys considering the health your exposing yourself too?You hit the nail right on the spot. I always thought on the same line when posts after posts dudes asking for BBBJ and if not given would not consider it as GFE. Well let me tell something there are myths and there are facts. Myths are always myths but facts are based on scientific medical literatures and journals writen by medical professionals. If nothing else (Like the deadly HIV, HEP C Or B) you bet one is guaranteed to get HSV I known as Herpe simplex virus which has two stains one is HSV I (resides mostly on lips of those infected) and HSV II which resides mostly on genitals on infected individual and both are interchangeable i.e person having HSV I on the lip can give HSV I to a noninfected person by BBBJ on the genitals and same is true about HSV II and vice versa. And this is not the end of the story. Most people have some form of periodonatal or gum disease i.e their gum bleeds while brushing because they haven't been to a dentist for quite sometime and while doing all the BBBJ sucking it is very easy to cause minor abrasions and bleeding- recipe of great disaster if one of the partner is infected with any of the above viruses. Well on one hand most people are acting responsibly by using condoms but what good is that when they are creating a weak link in the saga of infection by BBBJ. I read some posts saying that despite the best efforts some chicas refuse to give BBBJ. I really admire those chicas because atleast they are concerned about their own health. In my opinion we all shoud be safe than sorry beacuse all these diseases are non curable. Just my 2 cents
... As we all know, there's a full range of PFP and nice non-pros to meet too.
As Golfinho says, however, it's not like Medellin is a thriving, high energy city with unlimited sites and venues ...
Golfinho said nor implied nothing of the sort. To with: Medellin is a place with many sites and venues for thriving, high energy unlimited low-budget sex, with poor girls, or more accurately, mothers. But, little in the way of high energy venues for some nicer activities, new trends, upscale progressive or however you call it: ....
Uhhhh yeah, that's basically what I posted and implied of the sort.
You sound like an argumentative lawyer type, henceforth I hereby proclaim that I will refrain from quoting or paraphrasing of said person in the future to prevent quibbling of the sort.
Not bad ehhhh?? :)
Good luck ...
Member #3435
12-03-10, 17:46
But to keep going back is only due to lack of imagination or insufficent finances. And, don't mean to offend anyone who's fallen in love with the place.
Yeah right. And I'm sure you meant that with all due respect too.
Guys,
I have been a lurker here for a few months but this is my first post.
Unfortunately my first post here is not a trip report or anything fun like that,I am posting here because I need a little help.
A little about me first, I am a private security contractor working overseas. Spent many years in the active U.S. Military but after September 11th I was recruited to use my skills in a much more lucrative way. I am still associated with a reserve component though.
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past... seriously I don’t know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
On her own accord She has deleted her RomanceLatina profile, she has removed many people from her Facebook page and she comes almost everyday to chat with me in MSN. I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman.
Her name is Carolina, or some say Karolina. She is very small and has an ever so slight cleft lip which I do not think detracts from her beauty at all.
But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
I would rather bow out silently than waste my time and effort coming to Medellin to see her.
I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Agwood
TonySoprano
12-03-10, 22:07
Just wanted to point out that the majority of the guys that are describing medellin in negative manner. Are fellow mongers that are living in Medellin. Therefore, negative comment about Medellin has to be taken with grain of salt.
Colashermosas
12-04-10, 00:35
BBBJ is so great it's super super super!
But I have to take precuations!
Can't they make special condomes designed jut for BBBJ, superthin?
Help me Wilfred!
You hit the nail right on the spot. I always thought on the same line when posts after posts dudes asking for BBBJ and if not given would not consider it as GFE. Well let me tell something there are myths and there are facts. Myths are always myths but facts are based on scientific medical literatures and journals writen by medical professionals. If nothing else (Like the deadly HIV, HEP C Or B) you bet one is guaranteed to get HSV I known as Herpe simplex virus which has two stains one is HSV I (resides mostly on lips of those infected) and HSV II which resides mostly on genitals on infected individual and both are interchangeable i.e person having HSV I on the lip can give HSV I to a noninfected person by BBBJ on the genitals and same is true about HSV II and vice versa. And this is not the end of the story. Most people have some form of periodonatal or gum disease i.e their gum bleeds while brushing because they haven't been to a dentist for quite sometime and while doing all the BBBJ sucking it is very easy to cause minor abrasions and bleeding- recipe of great disaster if one of the partner is infected with any of the above viruses. Well on one hand most people are acting responsibly by using condoms but what good is that when they are creating a weak link in the saga of infection by BBBJ. I read some posts saying that despite the best efforts some chicas refuse to give BBBJ. I really admire those chicas because atleast they are concerned about their own health. In my opinion we all shoud be safe than sorry beacuse all these diseases are non curable. Just my 2 cents
LuckyEddie
12-04-10, 06:19
Hi guys,
To put this in perspective, my last report was Tampa, FL night out $500US!
The contrast is enormous and I got the same thing and a little extra. I started around 7PM with a couple of beers at a bar in El Centro near Hotel Eros and Bar El Faro. Spent, $3k colombian pesos, roughly $1. 50US and feasted my eyes on a few cuties. Then walked passed "Conejitas" to Bar Las Americas. Had a rum, 5kcop and watched a few strippers, it was ok, but I've never been impressed much by this bar. Walked over a few steps to Bar Maracaibo, totally different scene. Many more "cuties" and some hot dancers. No harrassment by bar tenders, easy going. Had a beer and a rum, down another 10kcop, Tipped both door men and 3 strippers, down another 5kcop. It was around 9:45PM and decided I would hit down to La Mayorista before they closed the Metro at 10: 45PM.
I had not hung out in La Mayorista for almost 6 months. But what a nice suprise, it was packed on a Tuesday night. I realized soon after, when they started all the fireworks at midnight, that it was Dec. 1st when all the Christmas celebrations start. There must have been at least 20 doable cuties, dressed really nice and even some silicon valley boobs starting to pop up. I went into "El Encuentro", my regular hang out and where they now have an English menu which I personally translated, and surely enough my girl friends from all my time hanging out in La Mayorista started popping up and saying Hi! This used to annoy me as they would always be hitting me for money, but I decided, I have it, it's really not a lot, so why not help them out a little bit. In the end they do sit and party with me. I gave a few girls a tip, and even the shoe shine guy. Shared my food, "salchipapas", a few bites to a girl and the shoe shine guy happily ate my leftovers, mumbling something about how much food was wasted. I make it a point now, even when I was in Bogota to save and give my left overs to a homeless person, they really appreciate it. Tips, food and a few drinks for a couple of "cuties" had me down another 20kcop.
From there I ran into Diana, one of VicPics cuties. She had a friend with her, another Diana, newbie as I happily found out. They hit me for a couple of drinks and then asked me to by a quart of rum to take up and drink at My Place. I also purchased some ciggarrets, down another 15kcop. They came up to My Place, and Diana dragged one of my guests to come party. He was packing to leave today. The other 2 guys were nowhere to be found. We partied and joked, looked at pictures from previous parties at My Place which my guest J had downloaded to a webpage, and listen to some "reggeton". I got frisky after a while and started playing with the girls, then we started dancing and, well, you know what hat leads to!
We had given each of the girls 10kcop each just for being nice and hanging out, my part 10kcop. So when we were dancing I started feeling my girl and raising her dress, sticking my hands in her thongs. I finally couldn't hold back any longer and offered her another 20kcop if she let me phuck her in the sofa, as there were no rooms available. She was hesitant at first and shy, but agreed. I started stripping her down and she started doing the same to me at which point my guest J got all flustered and Diana pulled him into his room. I took my "cutie", opened her legs wide and started drilling her. I had convinced her earlier to do BBBJ as my guests would probably not be happy otherwise. I ussually try to teach them that off hand. She was so sweet, I could tell she was a newbie as she was enjoying it a lot, must have come 2-3 times that I could tell, while whispering that she loved sex. She lightly bit and sucked my nipples, and when I asked her if I could come, after about 25 minutes, she seemed like she wanted more, so I held back another 10-15 minutes and then just exploded, woooow, it was a good night!
So for roughly $50US I had a hell of a night, saved $450US from my last night in Tampa, FL and enjoyed the same things and some extras. Wow, only in Medellin Paradise can this feat be accomplished!
Frank Casio!WOW! WOW! The US is more expensive than La Mayorista? - News Flash, this is amazing!
Frank what are you on glue? 90% of the planet is cheaper than the US - you act like you just discovered electricity. Hehehe. Did you get alzheimers in Tampa or what?
Welcome back and it is almost as cheap as it was all those other years you've been here. I think My Place needs an annex or something if you are reduced to couch boy in your own place.
Thanks for the chuckle.
Zig Monger
12-04-10, 06:28
Uhhhh yeah, that's basically what I posted and implied of the sort.
You sound like an argumentative lawyer type, henceforth I hereby proclaim that I will refrain from quoting or paraphrasing of said person in the future to prevent quibbling of the sort.
Not bad ehhhh?? :)
Good luck ...Way to go, Ricker, nice legalese.
Maybe you missed your calling.
is in that 10% more expensive than the US, especially with the CDN dollar at par. When
I am in a toronto strip club paying $100 bucks for 5 3-minute songs, and what I could get
for that money in MDE or SanSalv...well, drives one nuts. But,unfortunately, can't be flying off every second week, so I have to accept what the market gives :-)
Medellin Dreams
12-04-10, 19:04
Agwood69
". I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever. "
With 1 post you could be a bored troll, but just in case.
Let her go.
If your a lurker, you know better and your hoping a few guys here
Will tell you how it maybeeeeee could work. The odds are horrible for success.
You go much further, better have your financial ass covered, not to mention
Your sanity.
Pretty tough to change the spots on a leopard.
Regards
Guys,
... A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past... seriously I don’t know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
... But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
... I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Agwood
Oh boy ... I'm guessing you're going to get a lot of interesting responses.
Bottom line is, there are lots of chicas that play guys.
Has this Carolina ever asked you to send her money or have youy already?
Not a good sign at all if she has.
Just because she worked or works in the biz, does not make her a bad person. Life can be tough and they do what they gotta do to survive but you have to beware of these girls, both pros and certain non-pro types too.
You don't have to come down to meet her over Christmas.
Relax and celebrate with your family over the holidays and make a trip down next year.
You can meet her and also explore and visit the city of Medellin.
Hopefully, she's being sincere with you, and she may very well be, but the odds are not good.
If you really like her, you do need to meet her and spend in person time with her.
Like I stated before, if she's asking for 'help', be especially on guard.
Good luck
MiamiHeatLuver
12-04-10, 20:56
Guys,
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
AgwoodHmmm, well at least you had the common sense to question why she always has money, manicure, new hair color, new clothes but doesn't have a "job!" lol
The girls in this biz will lie (part of life), steal, manipulate, have their families lie for them, mix the truth with lies to disorient you and do whatever it takes to have whatever it may be they want, whether it be a western union novio like some guy(s) on here, ja ja or a make believe novio who will go back to his life wherever it may be so she can go back to her regular lifestyle and Colombian boyfriend. "you can take the Hoe out of mayorista but you can't take the Mayorista out of the Hoe. blah blah blah
Colashermosas
12-04-10, 21:42
I think what amazes us anglo-saxons is that the mentality of the paisas permites magical realism in everyday life.
Things are real and they are not-simulanoulsy. Things that can not happen in a anglo-saxon society can happen in this world of magical realism.
Thats why Colombians, in spite of their material backwardness and vast corruption actuallcy are one of the happiest people in the world.
Magical realism works- and its wonderful!
Way to go, Ricker, nice legalese.
Maybe you missed your calling.No. His calling is telling all fill in the blank stories how he's always finding the best chicas for the lowest prices (or for free) and how easy it is -- in places like Medellin and Sao P.
Member #3435
12-05-10, 01:21
Guys,
I have been a lurker here for a few months but this is my first post.
Unfortunately my first post here is not a trip report or anything fun like that,I am posting here because I need a little help.
A little about me first, I am a private security contractor working overseas. Spent many years in the active U.S. Military but after September 11th I was recruited to use my skills in a much more lucrative way. I am still associated with a reserve component though.
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past... seriously I don’t know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
On her own accord She has deleted her RomanceLatina profile, she has removed many people from her Facebook page and she comes almost everyday to chat with me in MSN. I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman.
Her name is Carolina, or some say Karolina. She is very small and has an ever so slight cleft lip which I do not think detracts from her beauty at all.
But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
I would rather bow out silently than waste my time and effort coming to Medellin to see her.
I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Agwood
Well, before I add my 02 cents that I know is going to sound harsh, I too am glad that you posted the question in order to get some honest feedback.
And to get some sense slapped into you.
It all looks bad dude. Red flags everywhere. My assessment tends toward the sentiment of your subject line. If you insist on wanting to meet this babe at least wait till after the holidays and maybe go see her for a 4 to 7 day type trip. NO WAY you should scrap your normal Christmas & New Years routine to visit her.
But the part of your post that I find particularly puzzling is that you state you have a career in international private security that you built from your military experience. If this is true, I would think a guy like you would have been exposed to enough reality in life to make this call for yourself.
You're thinking too much with the little head. Snap out of it.
All the best, Schwmm
SlamCity7777
12-05-10, 02:40
Guys,
I have been a lurker here for a few months but this is my first post.
Unfortunately my first post here is not a trip report or anything fun like that,I am posting here because I need a little help.
A little about me first, I am a private security contractor working overseas. Spent many years in the active U.S. Military but after September 11th I was recruited to use my skills in a much more lucrative way. I am still associated with a reserve component though.
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past... seriously I don’t know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
On her own accord She has deleted her RomanceLatina profile, she has removed many people from her Facebook page and she comes almost everyday to chat with me in MSN. I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman.
Her name is Carolina, or some say Karolina. She is very small and has an ever so slight cleft lip which I do not think detracts from her beauty at all.
But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
I would rather bow out silently than waste my time and effort coming to Medellin to see her.
I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
AgwoodWell. First let me say "Good Luck" what ever decision you make it will be difficult.
From what I have read from your post it sounds like you do care about her and that you don't care about her past. Then it sounds like she is trying to clean up her "on-line" life and with luck her "real" life.
If this is true then why not go visit her? We all have a past. When I hear about this sort of thing it makes me think of this song. Maybe visit her after the first?
http://youtube/gyg5IoEv8oA
I hope the link works.
Aussie Greg
12-05-10, 03:56
I quote "I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman"
Without ever meeting her ? jesus christ.
Aussie Greg.
Guys,
I have been a lurker here for a few months but this is my first post.
Unfortunately my first post here is not a trip report or anything fun like that,I am posting here because I need a little help.
A little about me first, I am a private security contractor working overseas. Spent many years in the active U.S. Military but after September 11th I was recruited to use my skills in a much more lucrative way. I am still associated with a reserve component though.
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past... seriously I don’t know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
On her own accord She has deleted her RomanceLatina profile, she has removed many people from her Facebook page and she comes almost everyday to chat with me in MSN. I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman.
Her name is Carolina, or some say Karolina. She is very small and has an ever so slight cleft lip which I do not think detracts from her beauty at all.
But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
I would rather bow out silently than waste my time and effort coming to Medellin to see her.
I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Agwood
Member #3435
12-05-10, 04:34
I quote "I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman"
Without ever meeting her ? jesus christ.
Aussie Greg.
No shit Greg!
There's so much ridiculousness in his original post that I skipped over that one.
Cheers, Schwmm
Guys,
I have been a lurker here for a few months but this is my first post.
Unfortunately my first post here is not a trip report or anything fun like that,I am posting here because I need a little help.
A little about me first, I am a private security contractor working overseas. Spent many years in the active U.S. Military but after September 11th I was recruited to use my skills in a much more lucrative way. I am still associated with a reserve component though.
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past... seriously I don’t know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
On her own accord She has deleted her RomanceLatina profile, she has removed many people from her Facebook page and she comes almost everyday to chat with me in MSN. I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman.
Her name is Carolina, or some say Karolina. She is very small and has an ever so slight cleft lip which I do not think detracts from her beauty at all.
But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
I would rather bow out silently than waste my time and effort coming to Medellin to see her.
I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Agwood
As I am sure many guys will continue giving you some good, hard feedback about the realities of working girl life- here are a few questions to ask yourself, and a few comments.
1) Is she "out of your league." If she is, bad sign (sorry, but its true).
2) What is your own history of relationships? If not great, then assess to what degree cultural differences, age differences, and the fact that she was a hooker will add to the liklyhood of sucess. Even in best of circumstances, relationships are hard.
3) Why is this so all or nothing? What does this say about your current "life space?" Meet her, check her out, be cuatious, and gather "information." These things have a way of becoming clearer over time.
4) Are you willing to talk about this with thos you are closest to? Freind, preist, rabbi, ect? If not, bad sigh. Run this all buy someone you trust, OVER TIME...Again, time and info are your freinds here.
Just a few thoughts...
Member #3435
12-05-10, 05:01
I think what amazes us anglo-saxons is that the mentality of the paisas permites magical realism in everyday life.
Things are real and they are not-simulanoulsy. Things that can not happen in a anglo-saxon society can happen in this world of magical realism.
Thats why Colombians, in spite of their material backwardness and vast corruption actuallcy are one of the happiest people in the world.
Magical realism works- and its wonderful!
Oh, far out dude!
And don't try to tell me that I don't get it.
I've read more Latin American literature, including Gabo, than 95% of the guys on this board. Maybe 99%. I estimate conservatively.
Sorry but I find your uhhh, post, pure gibberish.
And with all due respect, Schwmm :)
Da Kine Kid
12-05-10, 05:13
Wow, I never fail to be absolutely stunned when I meet or hear about guys like you.
Dude, no offense, but you are really playing yourself for a rube with this girl.
If you want a little background, here it is:
She was the first girl I fucked when I got to Medellin, at the mansion incidentally, though she worked Mayorista fairly frequently too. She's very well known among all the ex-pat mongers in Medellin.
I know she's got at least one kid. She's a professional SP, with all the qualities that come with that.
She was pretty good in la cama though, and super tight, if that helps you(picture below was taken minutes before drilling her for the full hour).
If the certainty that she's going to fleece you for all your worth(and I'm sure you have a lot doing contractor work overseas) isn't enough to dissuade you, just think of all the guys that had her before you. Wow, she must feel like she hit the jackpot meeting you, you're like the once in a lifetime lotto jackpot that comes along for these girls, someone rich, but dumb enough to fall for it.
Exercise some common sense and don't play the part of the rube. She goes for 25K pesos on Mayorista, not half of everything you own and then some.
Guys,
I have been a lurker here for a few months but this is my first post.
Unfortunately my first post here is not a trip report or anything fun like that, I am posting here because I need a little help.
A little about me first, I am a private security contractor working overseas. Spent many years in the active USA Military but after September 11th I was recruited to use my skills in a much more lucrative way. I am still associated with a reserve component though.
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn't seem to add up. And sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past. Seriously I don't know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
On her own accord She has deleted her RomanceLatina profile, she has removed many people from her Facebook page and she comes almost everyday to chat with me in MSN. I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman.
Her name is Carolina, or some say Karolina. She is very small and has an ever so slight cleft lip which I do not think detracts from her beauty at all.
But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
I would rather bow out silently than waste my time and effort coming to Medellin to see her.
I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Agwood
Zig Monger
12-05-10, 06:38
No. His calling is telling all fill in the blank stories how he's always finding the best chicas for the lowest prices (or for free) and how easy it is -- in places like Medellin and Sao P.Well, I have met the man and chatted with him on several occasions, and he so happens to be one of the most well travelled, and experienced, who I have ever met. And I have been around, but for people like he, and I, it is well, at least easier!
I do know that I have many stories, and he does, too, but fill in the blank?
From what I have read, my guess is that you are from Boston, and you are a bodybuilder. Oh, you also play some golf. Stay tuned for more analysis.
Zig Monger
12-05-10, 06:52
Oh, far out dude!
And don't try to tell me that I don't get it.
I've read more Latin American literature, including Gabo, than 95% of the guys on this board. Maybe 99%. I estimate conservatively.
Sorry but I find your uhhh, post, pure gibberish.
And with all due respect, Schwmm :)Gibberish, right on schwimmr!
Where are these dudes coming from?
Guys,
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past... seriously I don’t know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
On her own accord She has deleted her RomanceLatina profile, she has removed many people from her Facebook page and she comes almost everyday to chat with me in MSN. I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman.
Her name is Carolina, or some say Karolina. She is very small and has an ever so slight cleft lip which I do not think detracts from her beauty at all.
But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
I would rather bow out silently than waste my time and effort coming to Medellin to see her.
I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
AgwoodAgwood,
Carolina is one of the nicest Mayorista girls I have met. I met her in Mayorista a few years ago. And yes I have been with her a few times. I usually don't repeat but she is a sweet girl and knows how to please a man. It was probably in one of my posts that you saw her picture on here (the one of her in the "why Not Me" outfit). I was going to re-post it but decided not to.
She has worked the Mansion as well but never quite fit in as the rest of the girls. She is not a "hardened" pro as I see it either. She is very quiet and not aggressive. I have never seen her get drunk or obnoxious and I don't even think she drinks.
I remember last seeing Carolina at the Castillo for the Superbowl Party in 2009 (Pittsburgh vs Cardinals). She was almost not taken and I kinda felt bad that no one was going to be with her though she had sat and watched the whole game with everyone. There was this one guy that couldn't make up his mind as to take her or not. He was kinda drunk and acting a bit idiotic. He took off to his room and Carolina was all by herself. My girl had left earlier and I felt bad for her being all alone. So I went to her and we had the following conversation in the common area of the Castillo:
Me: Hey what's up with that guy? Carolina: I don't know, he told me to stay til the end of the game to be with him. But now he's gone. Me: Yeah, well he's kinda drunk I think. I don't know him but I guess he's staying here, huh? Carolina: Yes that's what he told me. Me: Well listen if he doesn't come back out and if you want, you can be with me. But, I know you girls usually charge more here ($150, 000) than at Mayorista ($30, 000) but I don't pay that amount anywhere. So if you're ok with it, I'll offer $80, 000 for an hour. Carolina: Sure, no problem and thank you.
Just then the other guy comes back and has Boyd with him and they take her to the side and then Boyd talks to her. Then the drunk guy comes over to me and says, Hey this girl is asking for $200, 000 for 2 hours, do you think that's a good deal? I told him she's a wonderful girl and YES she's well worth it. He says "Great" and he takes her away from Boyd and bee lines it back to his room. Carolina turned to me as she was in tow and sweetly smiled and waved goodbye.
Although I was staying in room 7 at the Castillo, I never saw Carolina again. In fact I took off for Mayorista about an hour later (the land of $30, 000 for 30 minute Paisas).
You can see in a picture report from Pauly Vegas that she's been back at the Castillo in mid 2009. But then she kinda drops of the radar after that.
Now as far as YOU are concerned:
Being in Medellin for Christmas through New Years with Carolina would probably be a lot of fun. I don't know (or remember) if she has a kid but if she does you will probably feel good as to buying a gift for her and the kid. I personally like spending Christmas with friends and family and so I never travel that particular week. SO only YOU can decide what is best. However you did make a promise to come to town for that week and it would probably mean a lot to her if you kept it.
Unless she suggests another place to stay I would recommend the Torre Poblado Hotel. It's a good hotel not far from Parque Llerras at about $140, 000 a night.
I believe that everyone deserves the chance at a better life. If you want to try to give that to Carolina, I hope it works out good for you both. If you do decide to post phone your trip, it really won't be a problem, just get there when you can. She will be happy you came.
Carolina would get my vote as a Paisa LEAST likely to see you as a walking ATM. I truly mean that and would NOT say the same of MANY other Paisas I have known through the years.
Good luck and Happy Holidays!
Cubanut
LuckyEddie
12-05-10, 15:30
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I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
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AgwoodHe he he... You sound like me. Her pics are here? So we''ve already established she is/was a paid cum bucket had by countless dudes.
That's a big strike one.
Long term relationships don't work even when you share the same culture same age, are in each other's league etc...
That's a big strike 2.
You think she's going to sit home and be poor instead of using her ass to make money? At least with her preferred clients? Suddenly she is no longer in need of money? Just to please some internet dude she's never met? What are you on glue?
You naivety is a big strike 3. Yeeeeeer OUT!
Prostitutes by default are a pretty deceptive bunch. I'd get out now but then I'm a serious guy doing serious work who does not like to waste time. Each red flag (discovered) on a woman here is usually just the tip of the iceberg. Also working girls rarely give up their high paying private clients even when they have a boyfriend Colombian or a foreigner living in Co or overseas.
LuckyEddie
12-05-10, 16:02
Oh, far out dude!
And don't try to tell me that I don't get it.
I've read more Latin American literature, including Gabo, than 95% of the guys on this board. Maybe 99%. I estimate conservatively.
Sorry but I find your uhhh, post, pure gibberish.
And with all due respect, Schwmm :)With all due respect 1%? I'm guessing your 1% represents reading the native text and not the translation. I'm talking about Castenada, Neruda, and the best Isabel Allende (Highly recommend The House of the Spirits).
But the translated I'd say about 20% - every gringo under 40 here has read Marquez Cien Años translated. JMHO
Colashermosas
12-05-10, 16:46
Hello again!
I just made contact with an videocam model from Medellín. She was supersexy and very very pretty. So I asked her for her email. I presented a plan for her.
I will do an "Agwood69".
I will demand that money spend goes to university fees (in a marketoriented carrer and english), which I will pay personally at the University and she then presents the results for me. Only with results we continue, semester for semester.
We will be introduced for our respectively families.
If this works we will marry 2012 in Octubre.
Maybe I can get a patent for this plan??
And, of course we will go to exotic places. (I will try to aviod it since it not magical not even realistic) But I have to do what i have to do.
This is an agwood69-trap!!!
But in the name of magical realism I will pursue.
It´s cheaper than a BMW!
And I must spend my money on someone!!!
Getting to meet a young sexy model with 9-10 face, boobs and ass having met her on videocam seeing her doing a sexshow!
She actually climbs out of the porn and into my life!
That is magical realism!
Member #3435
12-05-10, 17:48
With all due respect 1%? I'm guessing your 1% represents reading the native text and not the translation. I'm talking about Castenada, Neruda, and the best Isabel Allende (Highly recommend The House of the Spirits).
But the translated I'd say about 20% - every gringo under 40 here has read Marquez Cien Años translated. JMHO
Allthough her books make for some entertaining reading, Allende largely copied Gabo.
I wouldn't count her high on the list.
Da Kine Kid
12-05-10, 19:13
Smarten up.
Carolina is well known among the visiting and ex-pat mongers in Medellin.
I think everyone's ridden that neighborhood bike at least once. To her benefit, she's a decent lay, that's why she's been so popular.
But honestly dude, you seem to have had the sense to pick up these red flags along the way, but you stopped short of the finish line and are now dealing with a confused sense of chivalry and post traumatic pussy prison disorder(also known as american guys who otherwise exercise common sense throwing it all out the window when the first puta de barrio shows him a little attention). Use your head and don't be a well intentioned but dumb schlub, you'll do better with the chicas in the long term and miss out on most of the ones who are looking to fleece you.
Some of the guys below have already made some of the points I would have made, so it doesn't bear repeating. But suffice it to say, she's a clever opportunist who's obviously grown up rough, in a way we can't really imagine or relate to. That may explain her perspective as a working girl who will play you for a rube, but it's no reason for you to part ways with your hard earned money busting your hump overseas. She goes for 25K on Mayorista, not half of everything you own and then some.
It's a really common ploy in Colombia where the girl plays the sweet chica who's a victim of circumstances and something in us compels us to be that guy who sweeps her out of there and plants that little exotic flower in better circumstances where she is eternally grateful to us and we can pat ourselves on the back for our virtue and having found a beautiful yet unspoiled girl. She's a survivor and knows when to snag a good opportunity.
Many guys on this forum(myself included) have fallen for it to one degree or another at one point or another, though they may choose not to pipe in.
You sound like a good guy, but if you're looking for love, you're going about it the wrong way and you're going to regret it later.
My advice, go spend time with those who are clearly more important to you(your family) then take some time off to travel the region a bit and learn a few lessons along the way. They're not going anywhere, trust me. You'll find a million more like her, if you're still gung ho on making a bad decision.
There are a lot of opportunities to find great gals in South America, but you need to educate yourself through experience a bit more.
You can pat yourself on the back for having had the good sense to do some research and asking around before hand though.
Guys,
I have been a lurker here for a few months but this is my first post.
Unfortunately my first post here is not a trip report or anything fun like that,I am posting here because I need a little help.
A little about me first, I am a private security contractor working overseas. Spent many years in the active U.S. Military but after September 11th I was recruited to use my skills in a much more lucrative way. I am still associated with a reserve component though.
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past... seriously I don’t know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
On her own accord She has deleted her RomanceLatina profile, she has removed many people from her Facebook page and she comes almost everyday to chat with me in MSN. I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman.
Her name is Carolina, or some say Karolina. She is very small and has an ever so slight cleft lip which I do not think detracts from her beauty at all.
But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
I would rather bow out silently than waste my time and effort coming to Medellin to see her.
I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Agwood
LuckyEddie
12-05-10, 23:15
Allthough her books make for some entertaining reading, Allende largely copied Gabo.You can't "copy" a genre - you can be inspired by and write within that genre.
That's like saying Joseph Heller "largely copied" Mark Twain because Twain wrote satire before him or because they both wrote about people. The stories all are all different.
Kafka wrote Magical realism before Gabo was born. Borges's Garden (1941) and Pedro Paramo (by Juan Rulfo's Pedro Páramo (1955) were a few of many works before Gabo. Doesn't make Gabo a copy cat - does it?
Kafka's Metamorphosis(1915), and Julio Cortazar's Letter to a Young Lady in Paris (1951) were key inspirations for Gabo, and are closer to Gabo's work than anything Allende has ever written. I would not consider Gabo a copycat of Kafka and neither would the Nobel Prize comitte. JMHO.
Perhaps "inspired" is a better word?
Frank Casio
12-06-10, 00:45
Hi guys,
New law in Medellin for December passed by Mayor. Taxi cabs will add an additional $500cop to your fare during the month of December. Some kind of x-mas bonus for cabbies. So don`t panic when the the cab fare is different than the meter.
Frank Casio !
Da Kine Kid
12-06-10, 00:53
As I'm sure you know from looking through past posts, Carolina has been pretty well known among the monger community for years now. I don't think I can say anything either way about her that makes her better or worse than any of the other girls in her profession in Medellin. If she's trying to downplay her SP activity, that's straight up BS though. I recall seeing her a lot at the Mansion and on Mayorista. She's gotten a lot of mention in this forum, so you can use that as a barometer. A decent shag though, I will give her that.
Dude, it's good you had the sense to do a little background research beforehand. But it looks like you're about to drop the ball right before the touchdown.
You seem to be suffering from a confused sense of chivalry and PTPPS(Post Traumatic Pussy Prison Syndrome), a condition where gringos who otherwise exercise good judgement in their lives suddenly throw it all out the window when one of these chicas gives them some attention, because they're used to the comparatively cold and standoffish of many women at home in the States.
As mentioned before by previous posters, these girls can be ruthless opportunists and pretty good at deception and emotional manipulation if you open that door for them. They can also be a great time for a roll in the cama and a little pseudo-romance, it largely depends on you and whether you want to play the role of dashing Western Union gringo to the rescue every time the rent comes up. But I think it's common knowledge that that's not a wise thing to do. No one respects a pushover.
I've heard some of the same routines from a lot of these girls, it often makes me wonder if they have their own forum online somewhere where they swap tricks and tactics. The best response is usually "Times are tough all around baby, wish I could help. I hope it all works out for you"
I get the impression you're a good guy, but if you're looking for love, you're going about it the wrong way. Take some time to think about it rationally and I think you'll realize getting seriously "invested" in her is a bad idea. When it all goes bad, you're going to hate yourself for ignoring the many obvious red flags and getting played for a rube. And the worst part is, you'll have no one blame but yourself.
I'm guessing you're still on the fence because you want to think the best of the situation as you've been talking to her for a while and already have this image of her built up in your head.common sense should tell you to cut your losses.come to Colombia when you want to and she'll still be there, ready to pick up right where you left off. If not, 25K pesos(her rate on Mayorista) may change her mind.
If you want to meet a nice latina non-pro, go about it the same way 99% of people do around the world. Learn as much spanish as possible, visit often to get yourself as acquainted with the customs and cultural subtleties as you can, and get in with a crowd of good social standing and meet the people they introduce you to. Cold calling off the internet is rarely a good idea for long term relationships.
You've worked hard for your money, and I'm sure she will too, that is until the next naive gringo comes along while she makes time with a local guy who she can actually relate to.
Some questions to ask yourself:
1. Would you get into a serious relationship with a stripper/SP at home in the United States? If not, why would you do so with one from Colombia?
I think the reason this doesn't sink in is because as gringos, we don't have the cultural context to understand the social dynamics and place that person into one of those spots. We don't pick up on the social clues(low class accent, mannerisms, etc.) like we would with someone from our home country. We just see a hottie who's looking to make time with us.
This can be good in some cases and terrible in cases like this.
2. Did she tell you beforehand about her profession or did she only confess after you confronted her with the evidence?
Best wishes. I'm sure you'll smarten up after thinking about it for a bit. A lot of the guys on this forum are pretty savvy and wordly and have been around the block a few times in your exact situation, so give all the responses some honest consideration.
Guys,
I have been a lurker here for a few months but this is my first post.
Unfortunately my first post here is not a trip report or anything fun like that,I am posting here because I need a little help.
A little about me first, I am a private security contractor working overseas. Spent many years in the active U.S. Military but after September 11th I was recruited to use my skills in a much more lucrative way. I am still associated with a reserve component though.
A few months ago I met a great Colombian girl online, from Medellin in fact. We talk online a lot and we have become fantastic friends. I started to notice that she would avoid a lot of questions about her past work experiences and what she does for money currently as she said she was unemployed.
Over time she and I entered into a relationship and she calls me her boyfriend, which is fine as I truly care about her and consider her my Girlfriend. She has asked me to spend Christmas and New years with her in Medellin and I have agreed.
One of my co-workers one day told me that I should check this site to see if she was a working girl because things just didn’t seem to add up... and sure enough there are some reports about her here and some pictures.
I spoke with her about this (not referencing this site or any one specifically) and her response was that she told me there were things that were going to have to talk about when I get there.
She has told me that she is no longer working, and has not for many months and she explained to me that she used to work for a few days in La Mayorista and she used to go to the Mansion a few times to make money when she needed it.
I do not really care what she has done in her past... seriously I don’t know what has touched her life and what difficulties she has had to deal with. I am only concerned about what she is doing now.
On her own accord She has deleted her RomanceLatina profile, she has removed many people from her Facebook page and she comes almost everyday to chat with me in MSN. I am ready to make a long term commitment to her as she is truly a sweet and amazing woman.
Her name is Carolina, or some say Karolina. She is very small and has an ever so slight cleft lip which I do not think detracts from her beauty at all.
But there are just some things that leave me uncomfortable, and truly I would rather spend time with my friends or Parents over Christmas if she has been dishonest with me about her working status.
I work way too hard and have far too much to loose if she is playing me, lying to me or not telling me the truth about what she is doing and has been doing for the past few months. I am a pretty serious guy, I do some pretty serious work and I just don't need anything like this in my life now or ever.
I would rather bow out silently than waste my time and effort coming to Medellin to see her.
I know no one here owes me anything, but I am just reaching out to figure a few things out before I buy a plane ticket to go to Medellin.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Agwood
Member #3435
12-06-10, 02:56
To all: First off please bear with me for one last post on this. Believe me, I heeearr the howls fron north to south and back again.
Luck: It's not just the genre. Several of her characters and their roles in her plots are mirror images of characters Gabo had already constructed.
And to all again: Like I said before, her novels make good reads. If you're into it but don't feel like reading, check out House of the Spirits on dvd. Stars Merril Streep, Vanessa Redgrave and a whole slew of other stars. While you're at it, get Love in the Time of Cholera based on the the novel by Gabo. Both are Hollywood productions.
The latter is the better of course, IMHO. And I'm no fan of Gabo personally. He's life long best buds with Fidel. (What a dumbass :))
I can clearly read however, that Isabel isn't in the same league as a novelist.
I'm out, Schwmm
You can't "copy" a genre - you can be inspired by and write within that genre.
That's like saying Joseph Heller "largely copied" Mark Twain because Twain wrote satire before him or because they both wrote about people. The stories all are all different.
Kafka wrote Magical realism before Gabo was born. Borges's Garden (1941) and Pedro Paramo (by Juan Rulfo's Pedro Páramo (1955) were a few of many works before Gabo. Doesn't make Gabo a copy cat - does it?
Kafka's Metamorphosis(1915), and Julio Cortazar's Letter to a Young Lady in Paris (1951) were key inspirations for Gabo, and are closer to Gabo's work than anything Allende has ever written. I would not consider Gabo a copycat of Kafka and neither would the Nobel Prize comitte. JMHO.
Perhaps "inspired" is a better word?
Param Ahmad
12-06-10, 04:22
Speaking not from personal experience, but speculating, I think if I particularly liked young Colombian women, I'd probably go to Colombia! I've heard great things about clubs in Medellin, but I can't speak from experience.Greetings to all from Medellin!
The above quotation is from my last post (9/30/2010) in the St. Maarten (SXM, Dutch side) section. But now I can speak from experience, having spent several days in Medellin.
There is a lot positive to be said about Medellin. Despite being only 6 degrees north latitude, where I thought the temperature would be hot all year, right now in December, daytime is T-shirt or short-sleeve weather, and sometimes at night it has been cool enough I've needed a long-sleeved shirt (and sometimes an umbrella) to keep me comfortable. The 5,000 ft. above sea level elevation is probably one of the reasons for the comfortable temperature. Hotels, taxis and prostitutes are inexpensive in Medellin. The cheapest rental car I could find at the Medellin airport was $99 US per day. Taxis are so inexpensive and readily available I suggest avoiding the expense and parking hassle and difficulty navigating to your destination associated with having a rental car. I took a bus from the airport to central Medellin for about $7 US: The driver accepted US currency. So did taxi drivers, although you might save a little money by paying in Colombian pesos. The most expensive taxi ride I did was 15,000 Colombian pesos ($7.89 at the current exchange rate of $1 US = 1900 Colombian pesos). It is never difficult to find a taxi when I want one wherever in the City I am, and the taxi drivers so-far have all been friendly and have done a good job of getting me to the address I give them. I've seen no evidence of taxi scams such as payments to taxi drivers for delivering customers whereby me, the customer, is charged more at the club I'm going to because I arrived in a taxi, which was commonplace in Prague, Czech Republic when I was there a few years ago. Hotel rooms with a private bathroom I've stopped to look at ranged from about $6 US (yes, six dollars US! - tiny rooms with no exterior window in central Medellin) to $64 US per night at nicer hotels. With one exception, all Colombians I've met have been very nice people who went out of their way to be helpful, including hotel managers and front desk clerks and other hotel employees, taxi drivers, store clerks, a young woman who went out of her way to show me the way to walk to a post office, waitresses, and the people in the massage parlors and casas. Colombians are also very patient with my limited knowledge of Spanish. The one exception to how nice Colombians have been to me was late at night on a sidewalk in central Medellin: A young caucasian man grabbed me, shouting I don't know what, and in the ensuing scuffle I got knocked onto the sidewalk. But then as I got up my attacker and his amigos went away, either because he saw he had a fight on his hands or because a taxi driver stopped next to us to watch the fight. After this when I asked a hotel employee for directions to a place in the same area he warned me the area was "malo" (bad).
The setup at the "casas" or apartments in central Medellin are all about the same. The outside of the building is totally nondescript. Absolutely nothing outside gives any hint of what's going on inside or even that it is a business. I have no idea how customers find these brothels and massage parlors other than through ISG and word-of-mouth. The only way to identify the place is to have the exact address or ask a taxi driver. From the outside all these places look like a typical city residence.
You ring the door bell and are led to a room where you are invited to sit and wait. After a few minutes, girls come in one at a time to kiss you on the cheek or shake your hand and say her name. They may be wearing normal street clothes or more revealing attire. At Loutron, Abydos, and Energy (see addresses and GPS positions below), the girls, wearing a white shirt or coat that covers them from shoulders to hips, enter the room where you wait. Then they stand in front of you facing you, take off the white garment revealing the tiny tops and g-strings they are wearing beneath, and then turn around so you can see their almost nude backsides. While doing this she tells you her name so you will know who to ask for if you choose her after you've seen the all the girls. At all of these places I said "no, gracias" (no thanks) and left without choosing anyone and never heard any complaints or snide remarks nor was otherwise made to feel uncomfortable because I didn't like any of the girls in the lineup.
What's amazing about Medellin, and probably why so many men rave about the City as a sex tourism destination, is how cheap prostitution is: A typical price is 30,000 Colombian pesos ($15.79 in US currency) for 30 minutes. That is without question cheapest prostitution I've found anywhere. It is better than the Fylis/Filis Street area in Athens, Greece, where the price when I was there was about $15 worth of Greek drachmas (which means this was before the days of the Eurodollar). But in Athens (according to the madam or gentleman I spoke with at each of these places) that $15 worth of local currency bought you no more than 5 minutes with the prostitute - barely enough time for a mechanical "slam, bam, thank you, Mam!" (I wasn't tempted.)
For me, there are two problems with most of the prostitution in Medellin: (1) With only one exception (a black girl at Abydos), all the girls or women working in these places I saw were overweight, and I saw exactly one pretty face (which was that of the girl I chose at Fase II). There are pretty young, thin women in Medellin, but none I've seen were working as prostitutes. On the other hand, if you like women with big bubble butts and don't care if a woman has a pretty face, Medellin is your place. The girls at these central Medellin casas or apartments are almost all caucasian and young, and some of them might be just fine if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types. (2) At all but the strip clubs (such as Fase II, San Diego Grill, and La Napa Lady's Night Club), the only familiarity you have with the girls before you have to choose one to spend time and money on is the less than one minute she walks in and shakes your hand or displays her bikini-clad body, front and back, to you. You have no opportunity talk with her and see if (a) she seems to like you, (b) is affectionate, (c) can communicate with you verbally, (d) is reasonably intelligent and pleasant to deal with. I need more getting-to-know-you time than that to feel like doing anything affectionate or sexual.
Since the level of attractiveness of the young woman at the inexpensive casas in central Medellin wasn't what I was hoping to find, I looked through reports on ISG to find the most expensive places, thinking maybe the girls would be model-thin and prettier where the prices are higher. At Loutron (Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245) the madam quoted me 210,000 Colombian pesos ($110 US) for 1 hour, which is much more than you will pay for the same time at casas in central Medellin. However, without exception, all the women in the lineup at Loutron were so overweight I found them unappealing. I didn't see a truly pretty face, either. The situation was the same at Energy (Carrera 74, No. 49-101) where I was quoted 90,000 Colombian pesos; I can't remember how much time that was for.
After visiting all of the below listed clubs or casas, the only place I found anyone who appealed to me was Fase II. When I arrived at Fase II about 6:30 p.m., I asked and was permitted to look at the rooms at South Beach Hostel next door, which is apparently part of Fase II. South Beach Hostel is an interesting setup: smaller buildings built inside a larger building. The rooms are, in my opinion, very nice with comfortable beds, clean linens and towels, and a private bathroom including shower. However, the employee of South Beach Hostel who gave me permission to take a look at the rooms told me Fase II doesn't open until 7:30 p.m. I explored the Premium Plaza Shopping Mall on the opposite side of the street (Carrera 44) from Fase II and South Beach Hostel and then took a taxi to a few other places before returning to Fase II at 9 p.m. Even at that hour on a Saturday night it appeared I was the only customer, or maybe one of two depending on whether the other guy sitting in the main room doing nothing was a club employee. I saw three or four girls talking with a man with SECURITY (or the Spanish word for that) on the back of his jacket. One who I think from what she was wearing is a waitress, not a dancer, actually was an attractive weight for her height but didn't have a pretty face. One of the other girls, mid-20s, had a perfectly pretty face and, while not as thin as I find most attractive, didn't look as overweigt as most of the girls I'd seen. At Fase II, unlike at Bell Suite, New Life, Masages Aiffe, Abydos, Loutron, and Energy, and most others, it is possible to have a conversation for however long you want with the girl and decide on the basis of personality as well as how she looks whether she appeals to you. After talking and holding hands awhile, she asked me, "Que quieres hacer?" (What do you want to do?) I spent about $107 for 45 minutes with her in one of the rooms at South Beach Hostel, including the cost of the room. She was so affectionate and passionate and apparently orgasmic I found myself thinking afterwards that with prostitutes like that, who needs a girlfriend?
But still, the next time I travel somewhere for the purpose of finding intimate female company, it will probably be Spain where at clubs like S'candalo in Malaga, Estark 92/Star of the Seas in Fuengirola, Lady's Dallas in La Jonquera, or Estark 95 in Algeciras, girls with pretty faces and thin, shapely figures in sexy outfits are everywhere. If you're selective about a woman's looks, the cost is about the same. If you're of the "all cats are grey at night" philosophy, you can save yourself a lot of money in Medellin.
Abydos, Calle 33, No. 64-198, GPS position N 06 14.378, W 075 34.946.
Alejas, Calle 54 (Caracas), No. 42-13, is now CLOSED with "ARRIENDA" (for lease) signs in the windows.
Bell Suite, Carrera 45 (El Palo) No. 56-45, 1st floor
Energy, Carrera 74, No. 49-101, GPS position N 06 15.576, W 075 35.422
La Piramide Egipto/Lindas Chicas - (named Casa de Piedra in a previous report), Calle 58 (Oriental) No. 50A-54
Loutron, Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245, GPS position N 06 11.086, W 075 33.273. I was quoted 210,000 Colombian pesos for 1 hour.
Masages Aiffe, Calle 57 (Argentina) No. 43-27, Tel. 254 51 39, cell 311 761 98 50. The business card says Monday-Saturday 10 a.m. to 8 p.m., 11 a.m. to 5 p.m. on Sundays.
Puntocon, Carrera 50A, No. 53-38: A previous report said closing time is 8 p.m., Monday through Saturday. I arrived at 7:45 p.m. on a Saturday and found the place shuttered (closed).
New Life, Calle 56 (Bolivia), No. 43-39, 2nd floor
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Unlike the above, which have no signs outside, the below have bright neon lights like typical night clubs and restaurants:
Fase II, Carrera 44, No. 30-27 (behind Premium Plaza mall), GPS position N 06 13.818, W 075 34.245. I paid 10,000 Colombian pesos ($5.25 US) to enter. I was not hassled when I was asked if I wanted to order a drink and said no.
La Napa Lady's Night Club, Cra. 50 No. 52-10, Tel. 511 94 26. This is a strip club that is open until after midnight. There was no entry fee, but the waiter wouldn't go away until I ordered a drink, which I did in this case.
San Diego Grill, Calle 37, No. 45-15. This is a place to go after 8 p.m. after many of the private casas or apartments have closed. I was told entry was free ("libre") but after I went in and sat down a waiter told me there was a minimum drink purchase requirement, so I left without buying anything. Given enough time to look through the crowd, I might have found a girl I liked, but none I did see looked good to me.
Greetings to all from Medellin!
The above quotation is from my last post (9/30/2010) in the St. Maarten (SXM, Dutch side) section. But now I can speak from experience, having spent several days in Medellin.
There is a lot positive to be said about Medellin. Despite being only 6 degrees north latitude, where I thought the temperature would be hot all year, right now in December, daytime is T-shirt or short-sleeve weather, and sometimes at night it has been cool enough I've needed a long-sleeved shirt (and sometimes an umbrella) to keep me comfortable. The 5, 000 ft. Above sea level elevation is probably one of the reasons for the comfortable temperature. Hotels, taxis and prostitutes are inexpensive in Medellin. The cheapest rental car I could find at the Medellin airport was $99 US per day. Taxis are so inexpensive and readily available I suggest avoiding the expense and parking hassle and difficulty navigating to your destination associated with having a rental car. I took a bus from the airport to central Medellin for about $7 US: The driver accepted US currency. So did taxi drivers, although you might save a little money by paying in Colombian pesos. The most expensive taxi ride I did was 15, 000 Colombian pesos ($7. 89 at the current exchange rate of $1 US = 1900 Colombian pesos). It is never difficult to find a taxi when I want one wherever in the City I am, and the taxi drivers so-far have all been friendly and have done a good job of getting me to the address I give them. I've seen no evidence of taxi scams such as payments to taxi drivers for delivering customers whereby me, the customer, is charged more at the club I'm going to because I arrived in a taxi, which was commonplace in Prague, Czech Republic when I was there a few years ago. Hotel rooms with a private bathroom I've stopped to look at ranged from about $6 US (yes, six dollars US!. Tiny rooms with no exterior window in central Medellin) to $64 US per night at nicer hotels. With one exception, all Colombians I've met have been very nice people who went out of their way to be helpful, including hotel managers and front desk clerks and other hotel employees, taxi drivers, store clerks, a young woman who went out of her way to show me the way to walk to a post office, waitresses, and the people in the massage parlors and casas. Colombians are also very patient with my limited knowledge of Spanish. The one exception to how nice Colombians have been to me was late at night on a sidewalk in central Medellin: A young caucasian man grabbed me, shouting I don't know what, and in the ensuing scuffle I got knocked onto the sidewalk. But then as I got up my attacker and his amigos went away, either because he saw he had a fight on his hands or because a taxi driver stopped next to us to watch the fight. After this when I asked a hotel employee for directions to a place in the same area he warned me the area was "malo" (bad).
The setup at the "casas" or apartments in central Medellin are all about the same. The outside of the building is totally nondescript. Absolutely nothing outside gives any hint of what's going on inside or even that it is a business. I have no idea how customers find these brothels and massage parlors other than through ISG and word-of-mouth. The only way to identify the place is to have the exact address or ask a taxi driver. From the outside all these places look like a typical city residence.
You ring the door bell and are led to a room where you are invited to sit and wait. After a few minutes, girls come in one at a time to kiss you on the cheek or shake your hand and say her name. They may be wearing normal street clothes or more revealing attire. At Loutron, Abydos, and Energy (see addresses and GPS positions below), the girls, wearing a white shirt or coat that covers them from shoulders to hips, enter the room where you wait. Then they stand in front of you facing you, take off the white garment revealing the tiny tops and g-strings they are wearing beneath, and then turn around so you can see their almost nude backsides. While doing this she tells you her name so you will know who to ask for if you choose her after you've seen the all the girls. At all of these places I said "no, gracias" (no thanks) and left without choosing anyone and never heard any complaints or snide remarks nor was otherwise made to feel uncomfortable because I didn't like any of the girls in the lineup.
What's amazing about Medellin, and probably why so many men rave about the City as a sex tourism destination, is how cheap prostitution is: A typical price is 30, 000 Colombian pesos ($15. 79 in US currency) for 30 minutes. That is without question cheapest prostitution I've found anywhere. It is better than the Fylis/Filis Street area in Athens, Greece, where the price when I was there was about $15 worth of Greek drachmas (which means this was before the days of the Eurodollar). But in Athens (according to the madam or gentleman I spoke with at each of these places) that $15 worth of local currency bought you no more than 5 minutes with the prostitute. Barely enough time for a mechanical "slam, bam, thank you, Mam! " (I wasn't tempted.)
For me, there are two problems with most of the prostitution in Medellin: (1) With only one exception (a black girl at Abydos), all the girls or women working in these places I saw were overweight, and I saw exactly one pretty face (which was that of the girl I chose at Fase II). There are pretty young, thin women in Medellin, but none I've seen were working as prostitutes. On the other hand, if you like women with big bubble butts and don't care if a woman has a pretty face, Medellin is your place. The girls at these central Medellin casas or apartments are almost all caucasian and young, and some of them might be just fine if you like moderately chubby girl-next-door types. (2) At all but the strip clubs (such as Fase II, San Diego Grill, and La Napa Lady's Night Club), the only familiarity you have with the girls before you have to choose one to spend time and money on is the less than one minute she walks in and shakes your hand or displays her bikini-clad body, front and back, to you. You have no opportunity talk with her and see if (a) she seems to like you, (b) is affectionate, (c) can communicate with you verbally, (d) is reasonably intelligent and pleasant to deal with. I need more getting-to-know-you time than that to feel like doing anything affectionate or sexual.
Since the level of attractiveness of the young woman at the inexpensive casas in central Medellin wasn't what I was hoping to find, I looked through reports on ISG to find the most expensive places, thinking maybe the girls would be model-thin and prettier where the prices are higher. At Loutron (Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245) the madam quoted me 210, 000 Colombian pesos ($110 US) for 1 hour, which is much more than you will pay for the same time at casas in central Medellin. However, without exception, all the women in the lineup at Loutron were so overweight I found them unappealing. I didn't see a truly pretty face, either. The situation was the same at Energy (Carrera 74, No. 49-101) where I was quoted 90, 000 Colombian pesos; I can't remember how much time that was for.
After visiting all of the below listed clubs or casas, the only place I found anyone who appealed to me was Fase II. When I arrived at Fase II about 6:30 pm, I asked and was permitted to look at the rooms at South Beach Hostel next door, which is apparently part of Fase II. South Beach Hostel is an interesting setup: smaller buildings built inside a larger building. The rooms are, in my opinion, very nice with comfortable beds, clean linens and towels, and a private bathroom including shower. However, the employee of South Beach Hostel who gave me permission to take a look at the rooms told me Fase II doesn't open until 7:30 pm I explored the Premium Plaza Shopping Mall on the opposite side of the street (Carrera 44) from Fase II and South Beach Hostel and then took a taxi to a few other places before returning to Fase II at 9 pm Even at that hour on a Saturday night it appeared I was the only customer, or maybe one of two depending on whether the other guy sitting in the main room doing nothing was a club employee. I saw three or four girls talking with a man with SECURITY (or the Spanish word for that) on the back of his jacket. One who I think from what she was wearing is a waitress, not a dancer, actually was an attractive weight for her height but didn't have a pretty face. One of the other girls, mid-20s, had a perfectly pretty face and, while not as thin as I find most attractive, didn't look as overweigt as most of the girls I'd seen. At Fase II, unlike at Bell Suite, New Life, Masages Aiffe, Abydos, Loutron, and Energy, and most others, it is possible to have a conversation for however long you want with the girl and decide on the basis of personality as well as how she looks whether she appeals to you. After talking and holding hands awhile, she asked me, "Que quieres hacer? " (What do you want to do?) I spent about $107 for 45 minutes with her in one of the rooms at South Beach Hostel, including the cost of the room. She was so affectionate and passionate and apparently orgasmic I found myself thinking afterwards that with prostitutes like that, who needs a girlfriend?
But still, the next time I travel somewhere for the purpose of finding intimate female company, it will probably be Spain where at clubs like S'candalo in Malaga, Estark 92/Star of the Seas in Fuengirola, Lady's Dallas in La Jonquera, or Estark 95 in Algeciras, girls with pretty faces and thin, shapely figures in sexy outfits are everywhere. If you're selective about a woman's looks, the cost is about the same. If you're of the "all cats are grey at night" philosophy, you can save yourself a lot of money in Medellin.
Abydos, Calle 33, No. 64-198, GPS position and 06 14. 378, W 075 34. 946.
Alejas, Calle 54 (Caracas), No. 42-13, is now CLOSED with "ARRIENDA" (for lease) signs in the windows.
Bell Suite, Carrera 45 (El Palo) No. 56-45, 1st floor
Energy, Carrera 74, No. 49-101, GPS position and 06 15. 576, W 075 35. 422
La Piramide Egipto/Lindas Chicas. (named Casa de Piedra in a previous report), Calle 58 (Oriental) No. 50A-54
Loutron, Calle 12 Sur, No. 10-245, GPS position and 06 11. 086, W 075 33. 273. I was quoted 210, 000 Colombian pesos for 1 hour.
Masages Aiffe, Calle 57 (Argentina) No. 43-27, Tel. 254 51 39, cell 311 761 98 50. The business card says Monday-Saturday 10 am to 8 pm, 11 am to 5 pm on Sundays.
Puntocon, Carrera 50A, No. 53-38: A previous report said closing time is 8 pm, Monday through Saturday. I arrived at 7:45 pm on a Saturday and found the place shuttered (closed).
New Life, Calle 56 (Bolivia), No. 43-39, 2nd floor
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Unlike the above, which have no signs outside, the below have bright neon lights like typical night clubs and restaurants:
Fase II, Carrera 44, No. 30-27 (behind Premium Plaza mall), GPS position and 06 13. 818, W 075 34. 245. I paid 10, 000 Colombian pesos ($5. 25 US) to enter. I was not hassled when I was asked if I wanted to order a drink and said no.
La Napa Lady's Night Club, Cra. 50 No. 52-10, Tel. 511 94 26. This is a strip club that is open until after midnight. There was no entry fee, but the waiter wouldn't go away until I ordered a drink, which I did in this case.
San Diego Grill, Calle 37, No. 45-15. This is a place to go after 8 pm after many of the private casas or apartments have closed. I was told entry was free ("libre") but after I went in and sat down a waiter told me there was a minimum drink purchase requirement, so I left without buying anything. Given enough time to look through the crowd, I might have found a girl I liked, but none I did see looked good to me.Whoa bro!, I think you jumped in a time wharp machine and you didn't hit Medellin. Chicas arent pretty? Have big asses? Going to Sandiego at 8pm? The girls don't arrive till ten. Got dropped on the street and the cabbie saved you?
You went to Sandiego(a strip club) and left because of the"one" drink minimum(cheap bastard). How can you develope a opinion when you walked in and left.
Went to La napa and they had to strong arm you to buy a drink(cheap bastard). Quit playong with your GPS you got for an early Christmas present and buy a damn drink. You need more"get to know you time"? If your to cheap to buy a drink why would a girl want to get to know you?
Please go to Spain and quit fucking up the game for us guys that don't mind buying a drink to watch pussy dance.
The Tall Man
12-06-10, 06:07
[QUOTE=Param Ahmad]Greetings to all from Medellin!
But still, the next time I travel somewhere for the purpose of finding intimate female company, it will probably be Spain where at clubs like S'candalo in Malaga, Estark 92/Star of the Seas in Fuengirola, Lady's Dallas in La Jonquera, or Estark 95 in Algeciras, girls with pretty faces and thin, shapely figures in sexy outfits are everywhere. If you're selective about a woman's looks, the cost is about the same. If you're of the "all cats are grey at night" philosophy, you can save yourself a lot of money in Medellin.
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Param, Thanks for your report. I appreciate the manner that you write, with just enough detail about the important stuff and straight to the point.
I will in MDE on 12-15. As this is my 4th trip to Colombia but is my first to MDE I also will gather my own opinions from what I experience and observe.
Although I have never did the P4P in Spain (have traveled through Spain a few times) I have done the P4P in many other European and EU areas.
Good solid report. Thanks as I will use some of this info in the cuming weeks :-))
The Tall Man
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