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Mojo Bandit
09-10-22, 03:42
Can anyone help with recommending a really reliable, good security detail? Or driver / tour guide? I RTFF like 400 pages almost, but found no information on hiring security for a short-term trip. Thank you!No mongers are hiring security details, my advice would be to get into a Facebook group like "Medellin Expat and Tourist Info" and ask your question there. People who provide all types of services monitor those posts and answer.
Can anyone help with recommending a really reliable, good security detail? Or driver / tour guide? I RTFF like 400 pages almost, but found no information on hiring security for a short-term trip. Thank you!A security detail? Seriously? The reason you see no info on that is because no one has ever done it. So that should tell you something. No idea what you are planning on doing but a security detail will not enhance the experience for most reasonable people. If you did hire security as a first time gringo visitor, said 'security' would probably rip you off and set you up worse than befriending some rando.
Just really shaking my head here.
Mr Enternational
09-10-22, 04:39
Has anyone taken any of the Hooters girls home? Or seen them outside the spot after their shift?Somebody in one of my facebook groups asked the same thing. What is this obsession? Hooters is a restaurant and the girls are waitresses. Not seeing what the big deal is with guys wanting to hook up with them. Do you guys have a waitress fetish? Because there are tons of prostitutes with pussy for sale. Why hope to get some from a waitress when you know you can get some from a hooker?
Stayed at an Airbnb near Parque Poblado. Private entrance so I was able to have girls all day and as many as I wanted. Used milleroticos, photosprepagados, skokka, and a website called paisson during the day. 150 k to 300 k for outcall including taxi and BBBJ for 1 hour. Also went to Soul Spa on Calle 10 a few times. 100 k pesos for a 1 hour massage. 50 k for HJ. They had a couple super cute 20 yo massage girls. Also went to Parque Lleras between 4 pm and 2 am. 200 k to 400 k for 1 hour BBBJ. Parque Lleras usually had 5 to 10 girls during the day and 30 to 100 girls each night between the 3 blocks on Calle 10 that run along Parque Lleras and Gustos, Lleras Park Bar and the Bar above Lleras Park Bar. There were also a handful of girls at Supa Shooters and some other small bars along Calle 10. The hottest girls rotated between Gustos, Lleras Park Bar, and the bar above Lleras Park Bar. Lots of older milfs in the bars. The 20 somethings were usually on the street. Most were also milfs.
A skinny 20 something with bleached blond hair I picked up from Parque Lleras demanded I rinse my junk before we started. When I went to the bathroom, she took 80 k pesos from my wallet. I know, I shouldn't have left my wallet, but she was my third girl for the day and it was 1 am so I wasn't thinking clearly. Luckily I'd spent most of my money for the day on the other girls, food, and drinks.
A few days later a group of super trashy looking girls stole my cell phone when I was walking back to my Airbnb on Calle 10. One put a death grip on my crotch and while I tried to pry her hand lose another grabbed my arm and the one grabbing my crotch pulled my cell phone while I was dick-stracted trying to get my arm and crotch free. So (1) don't wash your junk and (2) if a group of girls grab your crotch, enjoy the free HJ and cover your other valuables.
Not my favorite place to hobby, but I couldn't pass up the exchange rate (4466 pesos:$1 or $30 to $90 for 1 hour with BBBJ with a cute / hot 20 year old) Even with the losses, I still had fun.
I wanted to get advice on the mileroticos chicks. I message them on whatsapp and they have apartments. I am worried of getting drugged if I go to their place. I was thinking to rent a hotel and tell them to come to me. Another option is having them come to my airbnb but I don't think that's a good idea in terms of safety. Or should I go to their apartment? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.Statistically and practically, the safest place for a monger for a monger to have a session is at a girl's incall. The girl is a local and wants no trouble of any sort.
DonMedellin
09-10-22, 15:05
Loved New Life (100 k per HR) and Zandalay (85 k per HR).Last time I went to NL and Z, the rate was 5 k less. So the prices have gone up?
A security detail? Seriously? The reason you see no info on that is because no one has ever done it. So that should tell you something. No idea what you are planning on doing but a security detail will not enhance the experience for most reasonable people. If you did hire security as a first time gringo visitor, said 'security' would probably rip you off and set you up worse than befriending some rando.
Just really shaking my head here.Security will make you more of a target in Colombia and the couple wealthy Colombians I've spoke to might have it for their kids (worried about kidnapping), but generally avoid it themselves. I've had security in other counites before (Mexico comes to mind and Las Vegas once), but it's not the same quality in Colombia and again, will make you more of a target. If you really, really to want it you'll want to look online for Bogota as that's where the quality security detail is based out of and they would likely need to travel from there, plus bring their transportation.
Somebody in one of my facebook groups asked the same thing. What is this obsession? Hooters is a restaurant and the girls are waitresses. Not seeing what the big deal is with guys wanting to hook up with them. Do you guys have a waitress fetish? Because there are tons of prostitutes with pussy for sale. Why hope to get some from a waitress when you know you can get some from a hooker?The waitresses at Hooters (parque lleras) are exceptionally hot. Go visit the place and see for yourself, it's not just hype.
Anybody know if there are casas in Envigado? Or any in-call providers in Envigado who are recommended?
My PM's are open.
GeneHickman
09-10-22, 20:36
A few days later a group of super trashy looking girls stole my cell phone when I was walking back to my Airbnb on Calle 10. One put a death grip on my crotch and while I tried to pry her hand lose another grabbed my arm and the one grabbing my crotch pulled my cell phone while I was dick-stracted trying to get my arm and crotch free. So (1) don't wash your junk and (2) if a group of girls grab your crotch, enjoy the free HJ and cover your other valuables.
Not my favorite place to hobby, but I couldn't pass up the exchange rate (4466 pesos:$1 or $30 to $90 for 1 hour with BBBJ with a cute / hot 20 year old) Even with the losses, I still had fun.Sound like you got robbed by a tranny pack. If you're going to do this you got to follow the well laid out rules, you took many chances and I'm happy you got off with just those losses. Getting scoped etc is worse.
And I am curious now, where is your favorite place to hobby?
TylerHerro
09-10-22, 21:01
A security detail? Seriously? The reason you see no info on that is because no one has ever done it. So that should tell you something. No idea what you are planning on doing but a security detail will not enhance the experience for most reasonable people. If you did hire security as a first time gringo visitor, said 'security' would probably rip you off and set you up worse than befriending some rando.
Just really shaking my head here.I don't think it's that crazy or outlandish of a request. To point out the other poster's comment about potentially being a target, yes that could be true but it's also true that you don't have to worry about any of the logistical nightmares, taking the wrong turn, rides in general, vetting with a legitimate service. Also, there are different levels to security. A driver / guide recommendation would be okay as well, but I understand what you're saying.
FlappyGilmore
09-10-22, 21:42
Yeah, at flak3 def got hit by a tranny pack. Same thing happened to a friend of mine who was walking around drunk trying to score some strange off the side streets in Llleras Park.
At donmedellin my last experience at NewLife and Zandalay this year the prices were way below 100 K or 85 K.
Can anyone help with recommending a really reliable, good security detail? Or driver / tour guide? I RTFF like 400 pages almost, but found no information on hiring security for a short-term trip. Thank you!It sounds as though you think things are like they were during the Pablo Escobar era over two decades ago. If your that paranoid, you should just hire a driver / guide and If you look at all the categories under Colombia on ISG, you will see a section labeled guides, and a few years back there was a post listing several bi-lingual drivers some of whom may still be available today.
If you elect to hire a driver / guide, you should befriend them, meaning pay him more than he wants, and they should be able to watch your back and help you out so you will feel more comfortable.
There once was an event where the beverage brand gave us uniforms for our hostess. They looked stunning. Fortunately the brand never asked for their uniforms, so we kept them after the events.
As I had this fetish crazy idea, I took one of the uniforms to my trip. So when I was talking to Juliana, I told her that would love to see her dressing the uniform. And she found the idea very exciting.
Yeah, I fucked her dressing the beverage uniform. She was in high heels just like the hostess.
It was incredible!! My brain made a short circuit when I came jajajaja.
I think I will order some hooters uniforms so I can repeat the experience jajajajajaja there are very talented people in south america who can do incredible uniforms.
Note: Juliana let me record while bending over and BJ. Such a lovely bubble butt.
The waitresses at Hooters (parque lleras) are exceptionally hot. Go visit the place and see for yourself, it's not just hype.
Still, Rappi has issues.
A 1. 3 out of 5 rating. https://www.trustpilot.com/review/rappi.com.I went through several pages of complaints. The vast majority of complaints are centered around foreign credit cards not working or orders cancelled when the credit card didn't charge. I saw no complaints from people who were paying in cash.
Reminds me of a famous saying "When in Rome......".
Unhappy drivers burning their backpacks in front of corporate offices. https://contxto.com/en/colombia/deliverers-protest-in-front-of-rappis-headquarters/.Yes 100 protesters out of 10,000 employees and the protests were in Bogota and didn't spread to other cities. Kind of weak, Elvis.
They have a good market cap but Rappi is not making any money https://colombiareports.com/colombias-delivery-app-rappi-is-not-as-profitable-as-it-seems/.The article was from November 2018. 'Nuff said.
But Viliany the V has not had any problems with Rappi so that cannot be true. He and JJBee (and Pile on Pauline before they had a falling out) love to pile on people with their supposed superior "knowledge" of Colombia but really they are doing what they always do, humping the powers that be. Colombia is great. Fauci is great. Rappi is great. And then they think that the TPTB will give them special privileges when of course TPTB have no clue who the fuck they are. It is narcissistic delusion.Jajajaja what is it that I do differently from you Elvis? I pay in cash and have never had a problem. You want to pay with your foreign credit card and low and behold you have problems.
I know this will come as a shock to you. Colombia doesn't operate in the same way as the US. I think for sure you would have less complaints and problems if you kind of adapted to the life style here. Just a piece of friendly advice.
With taxis, my gal handles paying for it, and I have seen a dozen times cab drivers tried to fuck her over. They will ask for 20 k and she will say 10 k, give it to them, and tell me let's go. My impression is being ripped off by a cabbie is a way of life there.Are you having these problems in Medellin? Once before you yapped about all your taxi rip-off problems but you had those experiences in Cartagena. Cartagena is a tourist laden city so yeah, I suspect cabbies see a gringo with a big head and they try to take advantage. Others have reported that cabbies in Medellin hang around the Parque Lleras area and try to catch a gringo waddling out of a bar drunk late at night. OK I can see how that could happen but I don't really hang there and I've taken cabs everywhere without the hint of a problem.
So, you should qualify your bad taxi experiences were all in Cartagena with your "girl" and not in Medellin and stop scaring people for no reason. Of course, you could have used In-Driver or Di-Di and solved those problems easily but then what would you have to complain about then??
Mr Enternational
09-10-22, 23:52
The waitresses at Hooters (parque lleras) are exceptionally hot. Go visit the place and see for yourself, it's not just hype.I have been there a couple of times to watch football games with friends. Just look like normal Colombianas to me.
Mr Enternational
09-11-22, 00:34
Sound like you got robbed by a tranny pack.Agree. Regular chicks don't go around grabbing crotches like that. In Sousa one chick may do it subtlety trying to pick pocket you, but you will never see a bunch of chicks aggressively doing it. That is a tranny thing.
TylerHerro
09-11-22, 02:47
It sounds as though you think things are like they were during the Pablo Escobar era over two decades ago. If your that paranoid, you should just hire a driver / guide and If you look at all the categories under Colombia on ISG, you will see a section labeled guides, and a few years back there was a post listing several bi-lingual drivers some of whom may still be available today.
If you elect to hire a driver / guide, you should befriend them, meaning pay him more than he wants, and they should be able to watch your back and help you out so you will feel more comfortable.Sounds great, thank you for the sage advice. I'll look thru that section now. I'm not trying to do anything crazy out there, but I'd like a guide / driver to watch my back. Thank you.
The transvestite packs that "enredan" (gang up on) their victims is a thing in Medellin. I saw the police chase a pack of them out of Botero Plaza last June. Unfortunately it was two days after they had ganged up on an elderly derelict in the thicket between the museums and left him with a bleeding head wound. That was a really ugly scene and I especially disliked the way the police ignored the girls yelling at them to do something. Transvestites or anyone else who surround you in public should be a massive red flag and trigger a flight reflex. You would have to be pretty impaired if the reflex doesn't happen. I'm not sure what Sosua has to do with any of this.
Agree. Regular chicks don't go around grabbing crotches like that. In Sousa one chick may do it subtlety trying to pick pocket you, but you will never see a bunch of chicks aggressively doing it. That is a tranny thing.
The waitresses at Hooters (parque lleras) are exceptionally hot. Go visit the place and see for yourself, it's not just hype.Beauty and hotness are in the eye of the beholder. I was at Hooter's tonight and there was only one waitress I would rate as hot. She used to be a bartender and left; now she is back as a waitress. She has lost a lot of weight. She has a boob job, but they look good on her. I don't like big butts nor big legs. At any given time, I would say 60 to 80 percent of the waitresses there fit one of those categories.
ColombiaLover
09-11-22, 16:34
I agree. I have not been to Hooter's in a few trips now (maybe 4 months), but when I have gone, I was not overly impressed with the waitresses. As Fun Luvr says, most of them tend to have big butts or legs. Which is not really my type either. But maybe it's gotten better. And I've seen much prettier faces on some barrio girls. I'll have to check it out next week. Maybe Hooter's is finally becoming a Hooter's.
Beauty and hotness are in the eye of the beholder. I was at Hooter's tonight and there was only one waitress I would rate as hot. She used to be a bartender and left; now she is back as a waitress. She has lost a lot of weight. She has a boob job, but they look good on her. I don't like big butts nor big legs. At any given time, I would say 60 to 80 percent of the waitresses there fit one of those categories.
What's up brothers. Getting ready for my second trip to Medellin. Was there for memorial day weekend for my birthday and will be back this Thursday. 2 quick questions. Last time I mostly went to the strip clubs and parquet lleras. This time around I want to test some daytime Centro action. What's the best spot to go in Centro during the day for action. I prefer my chicas to have a big booty LOL. Also where can I go to get a threesome with bbj. Appreciate at it and look forward to dropping a report soon.
What's up brothers. Getting ready for my second trip to Medellin. Was there for memorial day weekend for my birthday and will be back this Thursday. 2 quick questions. Last time I mostly went to the strip clubs and parquet lleras. This time around I want to test some daytime Centro action. What's the best spot to go in Centro during the day for action. I prefer my chicas to have a big booty LOL. Also where can I go to get a threesome with bbj. Appreciate at it and look forward to dropping a report soon.I just came back, centro street chicks was the weakest I have ever seen it. But there is a big booty chick that hangs around in front of the premier plaza hotel that I sessioned with a few times, 50 k w / room. If your going to monger in centro I would recommend the strip clubs, can't report on the casas because I went to none this time. Although I heard prices are going up in the casas and the popular girls will be hit 4-5 times or more a day.
Happened to me too!! Near Veracruz church. 2 trannys got me the same way.
Almost happened to me in Santa Fe BOG but Mr E help my drunk ass out.
Sound like you got robbed by a tranny pack. If you're going to do this you got to follow the well laid out rules, you took many chances and I'm happy you got off with just those losses. Getting scoped etc is worse.
And I am curious now, where is your favorite place to hobby?
So I'm reading a few pages back and I'm like Damn! Remembered why I stop going to the Jean. Ya'll can have it!
ColombiaLover
09-12-22, 05:12
I wish more guys would say the same. I want my MDE back! Less guys would be great, especially the "ballers" and "weekend warriors" (not that DC FAN is either).
So I'm reading a few pages back and I'm like Damn! Remembered why I stop going to the Jean. Ya'll can have it!
Happened to me too!! Near Veracruz church. 2 trannys got me the same way.
Almost happened to me in Santa Fe BOG but Mr E help my drunk ass out.Definitely all girls, but they looked like they were semi homeless. Crazy make up on one, barely wearing any clothes, and didn't look like they'd bathed in a month. It would have been a step up if they were a tranny pack, at least they would have been bathed and presentable.
And I am curious now, where is your favorite place to hobby?The unofficial city motto: "Good guys go to heaven, bad guys go to Pattaya."
Any advice for torn foreskin? It's not major but I definitely feel it during sex. This takes me out of the action until it's better. I saw this thing called "New Skin", liquid bandage kind of thing, available in the US. Anything like this in Medellin?
Shoulda used more lube.
What is the Jean?
So I'm reading a few pages back and I'm like Damn! Remembered why I stop going to the Jean. Ya'll can have it!
You won't find as much of that on dates that don't correspond with American bank holidays. Last week I remember wondering why I was seeing so many new gringo faces. It later occurred to me that it was the week of Labor Day. I especially remember a couple of young American guys in short pants walking along the south side of Veracruz church. One of them had a shiny new high-end Apple laptop under his arm.
I wish more guys would say the same. I want my MDE back! Less guys would be great, especially the "ballers" and "weekend warriors" (not that DC FAN is either).
Dcrist0527
09-12-22, 15:30
I wish more guys would say the same. I want my MDE back! Less guys would be great, especially the "ballers" and "weekend warriors" (not that DC FAN is either).Serious question because I'm probably defined as a weekend warrior. I've definitely become a frequent visitor. I'm heading there later this week for 5 days. This will be my 6th trip this year. I am very conscious about price. My understanding is weekend warriors come in, drop money they think is appropriate because it's more expensive elsewhere. I think we all have a responsibility to adhere to the established prices. Any other things I can do to mitigate my actions?
Somebody in one of my facebook groups asked the same thing. What is this obsession? Hooters is a restaurant and the girls are waitresses. Not seeing what the big deal is with guys wanting to hook up with them. Do you guys have a waitress fetish? Because there are tons of prostitutes with pussy for sale. Why hope to get some from a waitress when you know you can get some from a hooker?It's not a fetish (for me at least). Just wondering about options.
I wish more guys would say the same. I want my MDE back! Less guys would be great, especially the "ballers" and "weekend warriors" (not that DC FAN is either).Unfortunately the Pandemic has ruined, at least in my opinion, mongering here compared to before the Pandemic.
Because Colombia was basically only shutdown for about eight months during the Pandemic, versus SEA that still is trying to open back up, a lot of those mongers started showing up here, and when they discovered how inexpensive it is here, and easy to get to, they are not going back to SEA. Where can you get fucked for $ 10 USD anyways unless you go to India or Africa?
Unfortunately, MDE will never be like it was before the Pandemic, and based on all of the posting activity in the last year, I would guess at least two thirds of the posters started showing up here after the Pandemic started.
And most of the new posters seem like pretty good guys, and I don't blame them for showing up here.
At least for us "pre-pandemic" guys, we pretty much had the place to ourselves, albeit MDE was getting more and popular, but since the onset of the Pandemic, mongering has exponentially grown here.
I, like you, want MDE back, but unfortunately it's not in the cards.
My advice is to seek medical attention.
Any advice for torn foreskin? It's not major but I definitely feel it during sex. This takes me out of the action until it's better. I saw this thing called "New Skin", liquid bandage kind of thing, available in the US. Anything like this in Medellin?
Shoulda used more lube.
Any monger options near MDE airport? Flight cancelled and stuck at an airport hotel.
The street scene is cyclical; only the Centro rats are constant. We seem to hear about the same handful of casas for years on this site. Just now Ellas Erotica is one of the most highly regarded in Medellin. Except on this web site. They have a website and several locations. Their prices are about 20 K more per hour or half hour than the Centro places. They have an overall better selection of girls. They wisely maintain a wide variety of body types the way New Life does. It's the big box New Life style casa without the groups of gringos. I think a recent report is causing confusion about casa prices. I noticed the report cited the half hour cost as 80 k. That is the cost of an hour. In the past five years I haven't seen a single Centro casa increase its half hour price more than 10 K (45 K now 55 K). The prices hovered around 50 K for quite a while and some of them still charge 50 half hour /80 half hour. Aventura gets 60 half hour but they run Tuesday specials like Zandaly used to.
I just came back, centro street chicks was the weakest I have ever seen it. But there is a big booty chick that hangs around in front of the premier plaza hotel that I sessioned with a few times, 50 k w / room. If your going to monger in centro I would recommend the strip clubs, can't report on the casas because I went to none this time. Although I heard prices are going up in the casas and the popular girls will be hit 4-5 times or more a day.
Unfortunately the Pandemic has ruined, at least in my opinion, mongering here compared to before the Pandemic.
Because Colombia was basically only shutdown for about eight months during the Pandemic, versus SEA that still is trying to open back up, a lot of those mongers started showing up here, and when they discovered how inexpensive it is here, and easy to get to, they are not going back to SEA. Where can you get fucked for $ 10 USD anyways unless you go to India or Africa?
Unfortunately, MDE will never be like it was before the Pandemic, and based on all of the posting activity in the last year, I would guess at least two thirds of the posters started showing up here after the Pandemic started.
And most of the new posters seem like pretty good guys, and I don't blame them for showing up here.
At least for us "pre-pandemic" guys, we pretty much had the place to ourselves, albeit MDE was getting more and popular, but since the onset of the Pandemic, mongering has exponentially grown here.
I, like you, want MDE back, but unfortunately it's not in the cards.I have noticed since the pandemic a lot of girls I had known for years are charging a lot more money. I also noticed more americans on the flights since the pandemic. I still believe if you are willing to put in some work on social media and / or venture outside the tourist areas you can still find solid girls for a fair price.
I think we all have a responsibility to adhere to the established prices. Any other things I can do to mitigate my actions?Not saying you have ever been; but, as a general comment, don't be an "ugly American". I think those of us who have extensive international travel have seen that too often. Respect the local people and their customs.
What is the Jean?MedeJEAN, as it is pronounce by Colombians.
Once a place becomes popular with gringo's the prices sky rocket. With the new YouTube age it's happens a lot. That's why Africa will always be my favorite monger destination because the women are beautiful and it will never become overrun. I couldn't believe the prices they were quoting at gusto's. You would have thought you were in Las Vegas.
Any advice for torn foreskin? It's not major but I definitely feel it during sex. This takes me out of the action until it's better. I saw this thing called "New Skin", liquid bandage kind of thing, available in the US. Anything like this in Medellin?
Shoulda used more lube.Good luck finding "New Skin" in Medellin, let alone waterproof bandages.
New Skin works great, is waterproof, and I brought a bottle with me from the States and it would probably work on your Johnson. It comes in a small bottle with an applicator brush and stings when you use it until it dries.
In your current situation, you might try some Baby Diaper Rash Ointment, which I think is basically Zinc Oxide. I've used it in the past when I've gotten road rash, and it's very sticky and seems to heal things up quickly.
I'm assuming you were barebacking a Chica when you got tore up as this doesn't sound like something that would happen if your wearing a condom.
Hopefully you will be back in action soon.
Not saying you have ever been; but, as a general comment, don't be an "ugly American". I think those of us who have extensive international travel have seen that too often. Respect the local people and their customs.A point that could not be stressed enough.
Any advice for torn foreskin? It's not major but I definitely feel it during sex. This takes me out of the action until it's better. I saw this thing called "New Skin", liquid bandage kind of thing, available in the US. Anything like this in Medellin?
Shoulda used more lube.Experienced it myself during recent trip to Medellin. You have to let the girls know beforehand that your dick skin is sensitive and that they have to take it easy and not use teeth. Also try using coconut or any other similar oil a week before action, stretching the skin gently daily.
What's up brothers. Getting ready for my second trip to Medellin. Was there for memorial day weekend for my birthday and will be back this Thursday. 2 quick questions. Last time I mostly went to the strip clubs and parquet lleras. This time around I want to test some daytime Centro action. What's the best spot to go in Centro during the day for action. I prefer my chicas to have a big booty LOL. Also where can I go to get a threesome with BBJ. Appreciate at it and look forward to dropping a report soon.Just walk around the church, specially at its back.
Never is a very strong word. Gustos is one of a handful of outliers in Medellin. Its restaurant equivalent would be Carmen's. What they have in common is a robust public relations program and a core clientele of short term visitors who are guided by second hand information rather than their own experiences. I'm grateful for those sorts of venues because it makes their clientele easier to avoid.
Once a place becomes popular with gringo's the prices sky rocket. With the new YouTube age it's happens a lot. That's why Africa will always be my favorite monger destination because the women are beautiful and it will never become overrun. I couldn't believe the prices they were quoting at gusto's. You would have thought you were in Las Vegas.
Thanks for that, I honestly had no idea what it was supposed to mean. To me it sounds more like what gringos say when they are imitating an Argentina accent.
MedeJEAN, as it is pronounce by Colombians.
Any monger options near MDE airport? Flight cancelled and stuck at an airport hotel.I have heard of a place in Rio Negro. Perhaps ask a cab driver?
You may or may not get your Medellin back. Medellin is what it is, was what it was, and will be what it will be. The subject of Internet resources like this one that are oriented toward Colombians has come up lately. Besides content that is all about providers, cost, and performance appraisals rather than self assessments and self promotion, the other notable difference is you never see nostalgic pining for past times. It's all useful information about what is available today and what may be on the horizon. On the other hand, I remember during the pandemic you could expect one or two guilt trip responses to every report you posted because there is segment of uribista conservatives who decided we were posing an existential risk to Colombia every time we fucked a prepago. It's the typically Colombian mentality of situational conservatism among people who can afford the mid range providers that are the focus of review websites. We've all since made peace with each other. It's interesting how the elimination of blue balls promotes peace and understanding.
I wish more guys would say the same. I want my MDE back! Less guys would be great, especially the "ballers" and "weekend warriors" (not that DC FAN is either).
I don't think it's that crazy or outlandish of a request. To point out the other poster's comment about potentially being a target, yes that could be true but it's also true that you don't have to worry about any of the logistical nightmares, taking the wrong turn, rides in general, vetting with a legitimate service. Also, there are different levels to security. A driver / guide recommendation would be okay as well, but I understand what you're saying.Unless you're a major celebrity, or plan on cruising Medellin in a limo wearing $20 k worth of jewelry it's a crazy and outlandish request. If either of the above applies, then you should bring your own security detail with you.
IDK. Try the city where the airport is. LOL. Ask a taxi. There's a night spot on the Pan-America. Can't remember the name. There's also spots in downtown RN.
Any monger options near MDE airport? Flight cancelled and stuck at an airport hotel..
It was already bad before the pandemic. It's not the weekend warriors that ruined it. I would do weekend trips. It's the "Make it rain" fools that fucked it up. On a side note, expats living in Colombia during the pandemic experienced favorable pricing. Can you imagine why?
Unfortunately the Pandemic has ruined, at least in my opinion, mongering here compared to before the Pandemic.
Because Colombia was basically only shutdown for about eight months during the Pandemic, versus SEA that still is trying to open back up, a lot of those mongers started showing up here, and when they discovered how inexpensive it is here, and easy to get to, they are not going back to SEA. Where can you get fucked for $ 10 USD anyways unless you go to India or Africa?
Unfortunately, MDE will never be like it was before the Pandemic, and based on all of the posting activity in the last year, I would guess at least two thirds of the posters started showing up here after the Pandemic started.
And most of the new posters seem like pretty good guys, and I don't blame them for showing up here.
At least for us "pre-pandemic" guys, we pretty much had the place to ourselves, albeit MDE was getting more and popular, but since the onset of the Pandemic, mongering has exponentially grown here.
I, like you, want MDE back, but unfortunately it's not in the cards.
Stop going to the Jean and go where there aren't a lot of tourist. Explore and have fun. MDE was my spot for a long time. I mean I was hooked. Then the price went up and the performance went down, way down. All due to the high amount off dumbass flocking to MDE. Then I explored other cities and the price went down and the performance went way way up! In short Fuck MDE and explore!
Serious question because I'm probably defined as a weekend warrior. I've definitely become a frequent visitor. I'm heading there later this week for 5 days. This will be my 6th trip this year. I am very conscious about price. My understanding is weekend warriors come in, drop money they think is appropriate because it's more expensive elsewhere. I think we all have a responsibility to adhere to the established prices. Any other things I can do to mitigate my actions?
EveryNowhere
09-13-22, 06:03
I normally hire Uber por hora (Uber by hour) and that works as most of the information anyway is all around. I sometime then make a deal of per day rate with some uber and indriver guys and do outstation trips etc.
Sounds great, thank you for the sage advice. I'll look thru that section now. I'm not trying to do anything crazy out there, but I'd like a guide / driver to watch my back. Thank you.
Experienced it myself during recent trip to Medellin. You have to let the girls know beforehand that your dick skin is sensitive and that they have to take it easy and not use teeth. Also try using coconut or any other similar oil a week before action, stretching the skin gently daily.Not an uncommon medical problem. See a urologist and get circumcised. It will heal in two weeks. Easy fix.
Any advice for torn foreskin? It's not major but I definitely feel it during sex. This takes me out of the action until it's better. I saw this thing called "New Skin", liquid bandage kind of thing, available in the US. Anything like this in Medellin?
Shoulda used more lube.My advice below was meant for this question.
I don't get the negative comments about Medellin from a few people. I don't really understand the guys making comments like 'oh, this is why I don't go to Medellin" .or "this is what Medellin used to be " what is the point of this? Who does that help? And how does that help?
Anyway, I have been coming here 7 years straight and I have an absolute best time every time I come. Dollar is stronger than ever. I pay less now in dollars compared to 5 years ago. There is so much variety for all tastes and price ranges. No one is ruining it for anyone. You could pay 40 mil or 1000 mil a session, there are girls and venues that offer that and clients willing to pay that, 11 am to 2 am every day of the week. Hard to beat.
Planning a solo trip to MDE Jan-March. Just started going through the forum as a first timer, but hoping for any catered advice or to chat with anyone willing. I plan writing an extensive trip report so I can contribute some value to the forum.
Background: Mid 30's American. Started mongering this year. Have done RLD in Amsterdam, strippers in VIP rooms / hotels in Miami Atlanta. Poor Spanish, but using this as motivation to get to functional tourist fluency. My 1st trip to South America. Considered Barcelona as an AMS equivalent, but this is slightly closer and cheaper.
Goal: Being ISG, knowing that there's variability and always risk I want to make this simple, hassle free, safest for high volume of "high end" girls 8-10's. My tastes are the conventionally attractive, in shape, slim thick Instagram types, enhancements or natural even if a 6-7 would perform better. In Amsterdam I was doing 3 girls a day from window girls, which is child's play in difficulty compared to MDE it seems. I plan on coming back to MDE / Colombia, Sao Paolo, Barcelona in future for Latin mongering, so this 1st trip I want to play it safe.
Targets: La Isla, Fase II, Loutron, Gusto. Seems enough volume of safe options for high end girls near where I'll look to stay in El Poblado. If 1 sucks, its not too far to do the loop. Maybe once I settle a couple days I'll be more adventurous.
1) I've been told that race may matter. I'm ethnically east African, but ambiguously brown to where I'm Cuban / Dominican, maybe pull of dark skin Colombian. Muscular but avg height, so maybe I'm not the easiest target but being solo I won't push it & will dress plain to local standards. Will my look change general recommendations with safety or girls?
2) Is it worth forcing a 2.5 day trip sooner, or just wait until I can do a max 5-7 days to do it right?
3) Budget: If 5-7 days, for food and lodging I'll go the mid / high end route. As for the girls, I'll have the energy for 2-3 sessions a day. What would be an upper limit ceiling for 10 encounters giving buffer for covers, transport, a few drinks, expendables?
4) Transport: Uber to those clubs from Poblado are all 10 min or less. Is walking 30-40 min too risky?
5) Ignoring budget & assuming Poblado location, any major benefit of mid / high end hotel vs high end SuperHost Airbnb? Airbnb's may more easily allow guests, but hotels have security. Read nice, guest friendly, Poblado hotels are Hotel Dorado La 70, Hotel Poblado Plaza, Art Hotel Boutique.
6) Is there a general curfew that it gets exceptionally more risky to be out solo? I'll be making daytime visits and only want to be out at night only as late as needed for the best menu.
Much appreciated to any advice or criticisms. I'll gladly answer any DM's about AMS, MIA, ATL if helpful.
I've spent a fair amount of time in other venues that I've come to dislike over the years. I no longer frequent those places. I rarely read about them and I 100% never spend time broadcasting my displeasure with them. I consider it self destructive to spend the limited time we have engaging in that sort of thing.
I don't get the negative comments about Medellin from a few people. I don't really understand the guys making comments like 'oh, this is why I don't go to Medellin" .or "this is what Medellin used to be " what is the point of this? Who does that help? And how does that help?
Anyway, I have been coming here 7 years straight and I have an absolute best time every time I come. Dollar is stronger than ever. I pay less now in dollars compared to 5 years ago. There is so much variety for all tastes and price ranges. No one is ruining it for anyone. You could pay 40 mil or 1000 mil a session, there are girls and venues that offer that and clients willing to pay that, 11 am to 2 am every day of the week. Hard to beat.
Oh my, I am feeling waves of gratitude I haven't experienced anything like this. I can remember having minor irritation after short term binges back when I used to squeeze a month of action into a week or less. Even now I immediately stop and correct any girl who gets to handsy during oral or heaven forbid hits me with teeth or a piercing instead of tongue and cheek. I think the broken foreskin thing is on another whole level. I reckon this is good affirmation of the value of circumcision and condoms.
Good luck finding "New Skin" in Medellin, let alone waterproof bandages.
New Skin works great, is waterproof, and I brought a bottle with me from the States and it would probably work on your Johnson. It comes in a small bottle with an applicator brush and stings when you use it until it dries.
In your current situation, you might try some Baby Diaper Rash Ointment, which I think is basically Zinc Oxide. I've used it in the past when I've gotten road rash, and it's very sticky and seems to heal things up quickly.
I'm assuming you were barebacking a Chica when you got tore up as this doesn't sound like something that would happen if your wearing a condom.
Hopefully you will be back in action soon.
I don't get the negative comments about Medellin from a few people. I don't really understand the guys making comments like 'oh, this is why I don't go to Medellin" .or "this is what Medellin used to be " what is the point of this? Who does that help? And how does that help?
Anyway, I have been coming here 7 years straight and I have an absolute best time every time I come. Dollar is stronger than ever. I pay less now in dollars compared to 5 years ago. There is so much variety for all tastes and price ranges. No one is ruining it for anyone. You could pay 40 mil or 1000 mil a session, there are girls and venues that offer that and clients willing to pay that, 11 am to 2 am every day of the week. Hard to beat.I think the good and the bad comments about Medellin are very helpful. If it is just the guys who enjoy Medellin, it is the full story about Medellin. I welcome the negative comments about Medellin because it lets guys know that it is not all good in Medellin. As with all places, there is good and there is bad and sometimes you get a mixed experience.
That point is that there are some guys on the fence about going to Medellin and negative comments allow them to make an informed decision.
For guys who are going to Latin America for the first time, I actually think it would be better to go to Guadalaja, Mexico or Costa Rica first because it is just easier for gringos who don't speak English and it is a safer experience.
That being said, I just came back from Medellin and I had a good time but there were some negatives to the trip. When I have time, I will post a few comments about my trip.
... "high end" girls 8-10's. .... I plan on coming back to MDE / Colombia, Sao Paolo, Barcelona in future for Latin mongering, so this 1st trip I want to play it safe.
Targets: La Isla, Fase II, Loutron, Gusto. Seems enough volume of safe options for high end girls ...
2) Is it worth forcing a 2.5 day trip sooner, or just wait until I can do a max 5-7 days to do it right?
3) Budget: If 5-7 days, for food and lodging I'll go the mid / high end route. As for the girls, I'll have the energy for 2-3 sessions a day. What would be an upper limit ceiling for 10 encounters giving buffer for covers, transport, a few drinks, expendables?....With such a short trip, your best bet will be Sao Paulo clubs. All the clubs you mentioned are just high price, not really high end. Scandallo alone has more bars than all the places you mentioned combined but it is much more expensive.
Planning a solo trip to MDE Jan-March. Just started going through the forum as a first timer, but hoping for any catered advice or to chat with anyone willing. I plan writing an extensive trip report so I can contribute some value to the forum.
Background: Mid 30's American. Started mongering this year. Have done RLD in Amsterdam, strippers in VIP rooms / hotels in Miami Atlanta. Poor Spanish, but using this as motivation to get to functional tourist fluency. My 1st trip to South America. Considered Barcelona as an AMS equivalent, but this is slightly closer and cheaper.
Goal: Being ISG, knowing that there's variability and always risk I want to make this simple, hassle free, safest for high volume of "high end" girls 8-10's. My tastes are the conventionally attractive, in shape, slim thick Instagram types, enhancements or natural even if a 6-7 would perform better. In Amsterdam I was doing 3 girls a day from window girls, which is child's play in difficulty compared to MDE it seems. I plan on coming back to MDE / Colombia, Sao Paolo, Barcelona in future for Latin mongering, so this 1st trip I want to play it safe.
Targets: La Isla, Fase II, Loutron, Gusto. Seems enough volume of safe options for high end girls near where I'll look to stay in El Poblado. If 1 sucks, its not too far to do the loop. Maybe once I settle a couple days I'll be more adventurous.
1) I've been told that race may matter. I'm ethnically east African, but ambiguously brown to where I'm Cuban / Dominican, maybe pull of dark skin Colombian. Muscular but avg height, so maybe I'm not the easiest target but being solo I won't push it & will dress plain to local standards. Will my look change general recommendations with safety or girls?
2) Is it worth forcing a 2.5 day trip sooner, or just wait until I can do a max 5-7 days to do it right?
3) Budget: If 5-7 days, for food and lodging I'll go the mid / high end route. As for the girls, I'll have the energy for 2-3 sessions a day. What would be an upper limit ceiling for 10 encounters giving buffer for covers, transport, a few drinks, expendables?
4) Transport: Uber to those clubs from Poblado are all 10 min or less. Is walking 30-40 min too risky?
5) Ignoring budget & assuming Poblado location, any major benefit of mid / high end hotel vs high end SuperHost Airbnb? Airbnb's may more easily allow guests, but hotels have security. Read nice, guest friendly, Poblado hotels are Hotel Dorado La 70, Hotel Poblado Plaza, Art Hotel Boutique.
6) Is there a general curfew that it gets exceptionally more risky to be out solo? I'll be making daytime visits and only want to be out at night only as late as needed for the best menu.
Much appreciated to any advice or criticisms. I'll gladly answer any DM's about AMS, MIA, ATL if helpful.1. I'm white and never had any issues with race. I typically wear basketball shorts / joggers, basic t-shirt, and some adidas or nike shoes. I would leave the jewelry, watches, and brand new phones at home. Not worth the risk imo.
2. I would personally wait till you can do a longer trip but if you live in Florida its a short direct flight to Medellin.
3. Energy living apartment complex is going to set you back $100/ night minimum, food is going to heavily depend on if you are dining solo or with a chica. Sessions are going to set you back 250-300 k minimum more if you go to the clubs and pay cover drinks etc.
4. Lots of hills in El Poblado so I would recommend taking an uber unless you want to sweat your ass off.
5. Lots of high end airbnbs are in apartment complexes with secruity, pools, gyms etc. No personal experience with the high end hotels but I hear they charge guest fee after a certain time or just flat out charge after 1 chica / day. varies by hotel and whether or not you book the room for 1 or 2 guests.
6. Its probably just the American in me but after 2 am I don't really see a point in staying out any longer, its not going to get any crazier or better in my opinion. But there are spots that stay open till 8 am (not sure if this is still true post pandemic).
But yeah if you have mongered in MIA and ATL I don't see money really being an issue for you unless you just want to budget your costs in order to take a longer trip.
With such a short trip, your best bet will be Sao Paulo clubs. All the clubs you mentioned are just high price, not really high end. Scandallo alone has more bars than all the places you mentioned combined but it is much more expensive.Definitely wouldn't fly to Brazil for 2. 5 days, Lol.
Colombia is much more convenient for a short trip.
Though I do prefer Brazil overall.
Definitely wouldn't fly to Brazil for 2. 5 days, Lol.
Colombia is much more convenient for a short trip.
Though I do prefer Brazil overall.Sub 3 days was me being over eager. I fly ATL / Miami so 6-7 hours. I'll just stick with 7 days. Following the previous poster's suggestions too. SP one day, but favoring MDE as it's closer and my Spanish is better than my Portuguese.
AllAboutTer
09-13-22, 23:42
Hello,
Looking for guidance and opinion from the fellow friends.
I have been to Medellin just once in 2019 and absolutely loved it.
I am contemplating going back to Medellin but Dubai is also an option that is possible.
Never been to Dubai, Anyone who has been to both places can you provide me some comparison points.
Other than the obvious which is high cost per encounter in Dubai, would Dubai offer better options in diversity, venues, better things to do during the day etc?
Please advise. PM is open too. Thank you!
Definitely wouldn't fly to Brazil for 2. 5 days, Lol.
Colombia is much more convenient for a short trip.
Though I do prefer Brazil overall.The point I tried to make is this. If he only has 2. 5 days on the ground. Based on the context of his post, comparing what you get from La Isla, to what you get from Scandallo. It is a waste of time spending time in La Isla even if it is closer and cheaper. I speak from experience that I have been to both in the past few months.
For you or others who have many other options, that will be different.
MarquisdeSade1
09-14-22, 01:06
I have been mongering longer than many of those here have been alive and have been fortunate enough to have lived in prime time for mongering in places at their prime time. Cuba, Costa Rica. But before that, there was Venezuela. Before the political cluster fuck that ruined the country. In the 90's, Venezuela was the prime spot for fishing and the most beautiful women in the world. Back then, they were $ a throw in 1990 dollars!!! The fact that they have been displaced as they have to Columbia just makes the pot sweeter and like shopping in the Dollar store! Venezuela / Columbia is a randomly mutually agreed upon geographic border. Basically they are the same with different cultures and histories. 40 years ago, the tables were turned. Not to overthink it, just saying. I love them all equally. 8-80, blind, crippled, crazy, fat, skinny, tall, short, blonde, brunette, .
Happy hunting, my friends.
Snook.My Chicago iteration circa the 1970's.
8-80 blind, crippled, crazy, fat legs, no legs, bucked teeth, no teeth.
The point I tried to make is this. If he only has 2. 5 days on the ground. Based on the context of his post, comparing what you get from La Isla, to what you get from Scandallo. It is a waste of time spending time in La Isla even if it is closer and cheaper. I speak from experience that I have been to both in the past few months.
For you or others who have many other options, that will be different.Well yes, theoretically speaking, I agree. However, if you factor in travel time, and all night flying, I would choose Colombia on a short trip.
I do understand your point though.
AlphaLife001
09-14-22, 13:09
Hi everyone, am currently in Medellin since Sunday and wanted tô give a Quick Update on some points that have been discussed here:
All BBVA ATMs I've tried spit out max. 300 k peso and costs are 15 k pesos (that was an equivalent to 72 EUR) Bancolombia gives 600 k and costs are about 22 k pesos (damage in checking account: 151 EUR). So the BBVA option is definitely better.
All the nicer Hotels in el Poblado charge an extra fee if you bring girls so staying there. So the hotels make only sense if you already have a girl that travels with you. Best option therefore is an individual Airbnb. I cannot recommend Factory Lofts Laurels BTW.
Walking around laurel is and el Poblado is super safe. People here are really friendly and nice and during daytime you need to be stupid as fuck that something happens.
Please just don't take iPhones or iwatches with you. An iPhone 13 pro is a half year salary for a regular Colombian. So do the math. I always have a cheaper but good Huawei phone with me. No one cares about that.
Best sim carrier is Claro. Buy the SIM card at any street vendor or Kiosk (5 k peso) and top up with a 15 day package with 10 GB, limitless calls and SMS (20 k peso). Do the top up and stores called "gana" - green colour, minuscule letters.
Girls in el Centro around Veracruz were all really really nothing I'd ever touch. I'll go and have a look there today again. Better options:
Mia at Ella's Erotic. (130 k for half an hour with BBJ). This woman is pretty fantastic, definitely an 8 out of 10, about 30 years. No smelly pussy, neutral taste, a pleasure to make her come, good BJ (pretty rough deep throat), nice silicone see-cup titties. Or Chanel in Poblado. (look at mileroticos or pasionprepagos) Chanel is a mid 20 darker skinned Colombian and absolutely attractive. A really gorgeous face she is sadly hiding in her pics. Later today, I might try Melissa at Ella's Erotic. I'll keep you posted.
I will stay with the casas this week, Ella's Erotic is a legit place with warm and cold shower, they provida a towel, all great.
A sincere request: please learn some Spanish, don't go mongering with Google translate and to the Americans: please learn to pronounce the Spanish words correctly and put some effort into that. The people here are really good and friendly and they will thank you later. Especially the girls.
And finally: currently it's raining cats and dogs every day around 3 - 3:30 pm for like 20-30 minutes. Be aware of that, go have lunch at that time or book an 1,5 hour session.
If you have any questions a or want me to check out something for you, I'll be free Wednesday, Friday and probably Saturday.
If anyone wants to meet, leave a comment. I'm from Europe, in my late 30ies, speak 4 languages and have quite some experience with Latinas.
AlphaLife001
09-14-22, 16:18
Earlier, I also saw some posts and fellows complaining, that Lysto spray got expensive and over 25 $ a bottle. Well, maybe that's the case in the tourist rip off center. But just go to any farmacia o drogueria. The official price per bottle is around 50 k peso. I just bought one today at Farmacia Pasteur. Red with blue in the logo. Regular price for the bottle is 43.330 pesos, I got it today at a promotion for 36830 peso. That's about 9 USD. I'll try it out right now, not that I would need it. Just for fun. Have a good time.
I was looking for an ATM that allows you to take out a fair amount of pesos. At the Banco Davivienda ATM, I was able to withdraw the equivalent of $440 US. I don't worry about the fees because I have a Charles Schwab card and I get reimbursed. I was impressed at the amount of pesos I could take out but it came out in 100 mil peso notes. I prefer the smaller notes but the 100 mil notes went fast with the Facebook chicas.
Amazing info, thanks!
Two quick questions:
Did any of the casas offer bar / liquour service (is this a terrible idea)?
With Ella's, did you have to set an appointment beforehand or will they do a lineup?
Thanks.
Hi everyone, am currently in Medellin since Sunday and wanted t give a Quick Update on some points that have been discussed here:
All BBVA ATMs I've tried spit out max. 300 k peso and costs are 15 k pesos (that was an equivalent to 72 EUR) Bancolombia gives 600 k and costs are about 22 k pesos (damage in checking account: 151 EUR). So the BBVA option is definitely better.
All the nicer Hotels in el Poblado charge an extra fee if you bring girls so staying there. So the hotels make only sense if you already have a girl that travels with you. Best option therefore is an individual Airbnb. I cannot recommend Factory Lofts Laurels BTW.
Walking around laurel is and el Poblado is super safe. People here are really friendly and nice and during daytime you need to be stupid as fuck that something happens.
Please just don't take iPhones or iwatches with you. An iPhone 13 pro is a half year salary for a regular Colombian. So do the math. I always have a cheaper but good Huawei phone with me. No one cares about that.
Best sim carrier is Claro. Buy the SIM card at any street vendor or Kiosk (5 k peso) and top up with a 15 day package with 10 GB, limitless calls and SMS (20 k peso). Do the top up and stores called "gana" - green colour, minuscule letters.
Girls in el Centro around Veracruz were all really really nothing I'd ever touch. I'll go and have a look there today again. Better options:
Mia at Ella's Erotic. (130 k for half an hour with BBJ). This woman is pretty fantastic, definitely an 8 out of 10, about 30 years. No smelly pussy, neutral taste, a pleasure to make her come, good BJ (pretty rough deep throat), nice silicone see-cup titties. Or Chanel in Poblado. (look at mileroticos or pasionprepagos) Chanel is a mid 20 darker skinned Colombian and absolutely attractive. A really gorgeous face she is sadly hiding in her pics. Later today, I might try Melissa at Ella's Erotic. I'll keep you posted.
I will stay with the casas this week, Ella's Erotic is a legit place with warm and cold shower, they provida a towel, all great.
A sincere request: please learn some Spanish, don't go mongering with Google translate and to the Americans: please learn to pronounce the Spanish words correctly and put some effort into that. The people here are really good and friendly and they will thank you later. Especially the girls.
And finally: currently it's raining cats and dogs every day around 3 - 3:30 pm for like 20-30 minutes. Be aware of that, go have lunch at that time or book an 1,5 hour session.
If you have any questions a or want me to check out something for you, I'll be free Wednesday, Friday and probably Saturday.
If anyone wants to meet, leave a comment. I'm from Europe, in my late 30ies, speak 4 languages and have quite some experience with Latinas.
Hello,
Looking for guidance and opinion from the fellow friends.
I have been to Medellin just once in 2019 and absolutely loved it.
I am contemplating going back to Medellin but Dubai is also an option that is possible.
Never been to Dubai, Anyone who has been to both places can you provide me some comparison points.
Other than the obvious which is high cost per encounter in Dubai, would Dubai offer better options in diversity, venues, better things to do during the day etc?
Please advise. PM is open too. Thank you!Been to Dubai once, albeit several years ago. IMO it's not a great place for our hobby. There are definitely women abvailable, but the experience isn't good. It’s also IMO not much of a tourist destination. I'the never go back unless it was extremely convenient for me.
The point I tried to make is this. If he only has 2. 5 days on the ground. Based on the context of his post, comparing what you get from La Isla, to what you get from Scandallo. It is a waste of time spending time in La Isla even if it is closer and cheaper. I speak from experience that I have been to both in the past few months.
For you or others who have many other options, that will be different.While nothing in Medellin comes even close to Scandallo (and a few other venues in So Paulo), for a short trip, MDE makes way more sense. Flying from the US to Brasil for anything under a week is not worth it.
Unless you compared the 2 at exactly the same minute you don't really know. And what are you comparing. ATM conversion, at a teller, on line?
I know when I convert money the rate that is quoted is good for 10 minutes only. ATM conversions change at least daily, and depending on your home bank and what clearing house they use those rates may also change by the minute. In my case my home bank does the conversion so it doesn't matter what bank I deal with in the foreign country. I am not from the USA and my bank does not use the VISA or Mastercard systems for currency conversion.You are right, and I compared one day apart and exchange rate didn't differ a whole lot.
Exactly! Why guys get butt hurt over negative self-destructive reviews is beyond me. For the guys that are on the fence about going for the first time. GO to MDE for the weather, the hoes, the drugs. But from a numbers perspective, there are other cities in Colombia that have a lot more strip clubs and casas and better food.
I think the good and the bad comments about Medellin are very helpful. If it is just the guys who enjoy Medellin, it is the full story about Medellin. I welcome the negative comments about Medellin because it lets guys know that it is not all good in Medellin. As with all places, there is good and there is bad and sometimes you get a mixed experience.
That point is that there are some guys on the fence about going to Medellin and negative comments allow them to make an informed decision.
For guys who are going to Latin America for the first time, I actually think it would be better to go to Guadalaja, Mexico or Costa Rica first because it is just easier for gringos who don't speak English and it is a safer experience.
That being said, I just came back from Medellin and I had a good time but there were some negatives to the trip. When I have time, I will post a few comments about my trip.
Exactly! Why guys get butt hurt over negative self-destructive reviews is beyond me. For the guys that are on the fence about going for the first time. GO to MDE for the weather, the hoes, the drugs. But from a numbers perspective, there are other cities in Colombia that have a lot more strip clubs and casas and better food.What city has more besides Bogota?
Well yes, theoretically speaking, I agree. However, if you factor in travel time, and all night flying, I would choose Colombia on a short trip.
I do understand your point though.I agree with you.
My point is based on the context. Not knowing the OP's taste, just based on that he expects 8-10, instagram type. IMO, it is unrealistic to do what the OP wants to do in 2. 5 days in Medellin for a new monger in those clubs which also start late, unlike Scandallo that starts around noon. I also actually did not say do it in 2. 5 days because the other number he mentioned is 5-7 days. So instead of giving negative feedback, I went with it so he could think about it if he decided to do a short trip.
I don't know where the OP lives. Just to argue about it, he could take a direct red-eyes out of Houston and arrive in SP in the morning but this is not really the point.
I agree with you.
My point is based on the context. Not knowing the OP's taste, just based on that he expects 8-10, instagram type. IMO, it is unrealistic to do what the OP wants to do in 2. 5 days in Medellin for a new monger in those clubs which also start late, unlike Scandallo that starts around noon. I also actually did not say do it in 2. 5 days because the other number he mentioned is 5-7 days. So instead of giving negative feedback, I went with it so he could think about it if he decided to do a short trip.
I don't know where the OP lives. Just to argue about it, he could take a direct red-eyes out of Houston and arrive in SP in the morning but this is not really the point.Thank you I appreciate the input. Yes definitely shooting for the moon by only looking for the "high end" club girls. I travel for work, so I fly out of ATL / MIA, no directs just transfers to Bogota or Panama. I've scrapped the weekend idea, and will go with 5-7 so I'm looking for a close, 1st SA trip. SP is a must one day, but I'm working on my Spanish & know I have to do MDE at least once. Researching the Bogota sub if it's worth going there (if they have easy high end club girls) since I can get a shorter direct flight.
Likely reaching out to a sub tour guide when there.
As other reviewer have mentioned, BBVA now charges 15 mil per transaction for cash withdrawals. Upper limit is still 300 mil. Just heads up.I just happened to stop by the BBVA ATM around the corner from the church today and I just so happened to remember your post, DonMedellin. So here's the proof to substantiate my claim. I have the date time and location on there too so you know it's not an old picture.
Gabacho Out.
Correction there is only one city that has more than MDE.
What city has more besides Bogota?
I just happened to stop by the BBVA ATM around the corner from the church today and I just so happened to remember your post, DonMedellin. So here's the proof to substantiate my claim. I have the date time and location on there too so you know it's not an old picture.
-Gabacho Out.What card do you have?
What card do you have?Capital One 360.
No international transaction fees, no ATM fees (international or out of network), no minimum balance required, no monthly fees at all, and $1000 usd per day limit on ATM withdrawals. When used at BBVA, Caja Social, or Davivienda there's absolutely no fees whatsoever.
What city has more besides Bogota?Bogota is the only city in Colombia that has a larger scene than Medellin. I started going to Bogota in 2018 and Medellin in 2020. However Santa Fe, in my opinion, isn't as good as it used to be. The best girls have come to medellin to work. Also medellin is much more navigable with its state of the art metro & metro cable system. Medellin has alot more to offer in the form of extracurricular activities too such as swimming pools, etc. If you're in Bogota you have to go to Melgar for good swimming pools.
And I know no one here agrees with me but I do like Cucuta as a third option although the weather there is hot and humid, but they have a thriving scene on la septima and lower prices and lots of vennies.
AmorPorFavor
09-15-22, 03:05
Capital One 360.
No international transaction fees, no ATM fees (international or out of network), no minimum balance required, no monthly fees at all, and $1000 usd per day limit on ATM withdrawals. When used at BBVA, Caja Social, or Davivienda there's absolutely no fees whatsoever.As a credit card don't they start charging you some very high interest rate immediately after the withdrawal. What got me in CTG was Wells Fargo hitting me for $5 for every transaction and the largest one I could find was only 300 m. What ATM's in Medellin will give me the largest withdrawal per transaction. I believe I read that Davienda is 900 m? And no I'm not going to change banks for this.
Thank you for taking the time to write this.
Hi everyone, am currently in Medellin since Sunday and wanted t give a Quick Update on some points that have been discussed here:
All BBVA ATMs I've tried spit out max. 300 k peso and costs are 15 k pesos (that was an equivalent to 72 EUR) Bancolombia gives 600 k and costs are about 22 k pesos (damage in checking account: 151 EUR). So the BBVA option is definitely better.
All the nicer Hotels in el Poblado charge an extra fee if you bring girls so staying there. So the hotels make only sense if you already have a girl that travels with you. Best option therefore is an individual Airbnb. I cannot recommend Factory Lofts Laurels BTW.
Walking around laurel is and el Poblado is super safe. People here are really friendly and nice and during daytime you need to be stupid as fuck that something happens.
Please just don't take iPhones or iwatches with you. An iPhone 13 pro is a half year salary for a regular Colombian. So do the math. I always have a cheaper but good Huawei phone with me. No one cares about that.
And I know no one here agrees with me but I do like Cucuta as a third option although the weather there is hot and humid, but they have a thriving scene on la septima and lower prices and lots of vennies.Interesting selecting Cucuta as a third choice / option behind Medellin and Bogota, And of course there are lot's of Vennies there, as it's a basically a border town, and things are cheaper there, as this is what I noticed when I visited to check out the mongering scene before the Pandemic.
My personal second choice / option after Medellin would of been Santa Marta, and it is way different than Cucuta being a beach town.
Davivienda gives up to 2 million pesos per transaction. The bank does not assess ATM fees. Depending on your deal with the bank that issues your ATM card, you may be charged transaction fees and your per transaction and daily withdrawal limit may be lower than what Davivienda offers.
As a credit card don't they start charging you some very high interest rate immediately after the withdrawal. What got me in CTG was Wells Fargo hitting me for $5 for every transaction and the largest one I could find was only 300 m. What ATM's in Medellin will give me the largest withdrawal per transaction. I believe I read that Davienda is 900 m? And no I'm not going to change banks for this.
As a credit card don't they start charging you some very high interest rate immediately after the withdrawal. What got me in CTG was Wells Fargo hitting me for $5 for every transaction and the largest one I could find was only 300 m. What ATM's in Medellin will give me the largest withdrawal per transaction. I believe I read that Davienda is 900 m? And no I'm not going to change banks for this.I was able to withdraw 2 million pesos using Davivienda two months ago. No fee. Convertion rate was in line to the other banks.
As a credit card don't they start charging you some very high interest rate immediately after the withdrawal. What got me in CTG was Wells Fargo hitting me for $5 for every transaction and the largest one I could find was only 300 m. What ATM's in Medellin will give me the largest withdrawal per transaction. I believe I read that Davienda is 900 m? And no I'm not going to change banks for this.I don't use credit cards. And Wells Fargo is one of the worst banks, they charge $5 usd fee on every foreign ATM transaction. Also I believe a 3% fee when you use your card for purchases too. As far as Davivienda they allow up to $2 million COP per withdrawal.
As a credit card don't they start charging you some very high interest rate immediately after the withdrawal.I think everyone on this site is referring to debit cards when talking about ATM's.
If someone wants to grab a drink, DM me-- I'm here for a while and interested in learning about day game. I've only done Seeking, Isla, Gusto, and mostly touristy stuff like that; done Centro as well, although not too often.
Found tips like the ones below regarding day game, but also looking to go out / grab a beer sometime and shoot the shit. Mid-30's, fluent Spanish, usually done with work around 4-5 pm (weekends free any time).
Tell them you're here and sometimes you get a little bored and would like some intimate adult company. Tell them you are friendly, and generous. They will likely ask what that generous part means. You tell them that naturally you would like to reward them for their friendly company but since you don't know them well, instead of buying them a present you would like to give them some money (tell them how much. 200 mil, 250 mil whatever you think might tempt them) and then they can buy a gift that they really like and just remember that it was from you. Works like a charm. They see this as a respectful offer that doesn't make them lose self-esteem and doesn't brand them.
If you are walking out in public and you literally see a single chica on the sidewalk you must have, introduce yourself and ask her, "Quieres ser mi novia por 2 horas if?" or does she wants to be your girlfriend for _ hours (fill in the number). If she say yes, act immediately if possible to reduce the chance you will get flaked if she wants to meet you somewhere else later. You're welcome.
... I've scrapped the weekend idea, and will go with 5-7 so I'm looking for a close, 1st SA trip. ...Lowered expectation will be good for you. The clubs you mentioned are not known for good service despite higher price. If you have low expectation in service, then it should work out fine.
I agree with you. I loved the small border town.
Bogota is the only city in Colombia that has a larger scene than Medellin. I started going to Bogota in 2018 and Medellin in 2020. However Santa Fe, in my opinion, isn't as good as it used to be. The best girls have come to medellin to work. Also medellin is much more navigable with its state of the art metro & metro cable system. Medellin has alot more to offer in the form of extracurricular activities too such as swimming pools, etc. If you're in Bogota you have to go to Melgar for good swimming pools.
And I know no one here agrees with me but I do like Cucuta as a third option although the weather there is hot and humid, but they have a thriving scene on la septima and lower prices and lots of vennies.
AlphaLife001
09-15-22, 12:41
Yes, they do have Sort of a Menu with soft Drinks and Beer. Prices range about 4 k peso for a coke to 10 k peso for international beer (Heineken, Corona). Club Colombia or Aguila (the local beers) are 6 k peso. Didn't see shots or cocktails. The girls don't tend to drink anyway. And there is no real Bar as in a strip club. It's more like the girls bring you whatever you ask for to the room and they take care of you. It's not a terrible idea to have a drink there. Knock yourself out.
In general, when I visit a third world country anywhere in the world, I never never drink shots or cocktails unless I'm with people I really know. But instead I always order beer only and I have the waiters open it where I can see it. In Thailand eg they always open the beer in front of your eyes.
Regarding appointment: if you go to the Ella's Erotic website and take the whatsapp-contact from there, you'll talk to the mistress of the casa. But you can also find the advertisements of the individual girls in mileroticos, pasionprepagos and such. There are the numbers of the girls directly and you do really talk to them individually via WhatsApp.
I'd recommend making an appointment for the same day talking to the girls. You can always leave if you don't like her but just be polite. They would surely do a lineup as well. For that, I might recommend asking the mistress when all of them are there and then just drop by.
The area around Ella's erotic is totally fine to walk around. So no worries at all. However there are not really nice bars or restaurants as in Laurelis (I'm talking western standard higher end). Instead, you'll find there regular Latin style restaurants, just not such a nice atmosphere but fine to sit, wait for the girls to be free, have a brew.
Amazing info, thanks!
Two quick questions:
Did any of the casas offer bar / liquour service (is this a terrible idea)?
With Ella's, did you have to set an appointment beforehand or will they do a lineup?
Thanks.
DonMedellin
09-15-22, 17:49
I always got to know the girls in a language appthe ones in Brazil in Colombia but the app is basically rounded now.
Hi Friend, which language app were you refering to? Thanks.
Awesome info. Thanks man!
Yes, they do have Sort of a Menu with soft Drinks and Beer. Prices range about 4 k peso for a coke to 10 k peso for international beer (Heineken, Corona). Club Colombia or Aguila (the local beers) are 6 k peso. Didn't see shots or cocktails. The girls don't tend to drink anyway. And there is no real Bar as in a strip club. It's more like the girls bring you whatever you ask for to the room and they take care of you. It's not a terrible idea to have a drink there. Knock yourself out.
In general, when I visit a third world country anywhere in the world, I never never drink shots or cocktails unless I'm with people I really know. But instead I always order beer only and I have the waiters open it where I can see it. In Thailand eg they always open the beer in front of your eyes.
Regarding appointment: if you go to the Ella's Erotic website and take the whatsapp-contact from there, you'll talk to the mistress of the casa. But you can also find the advertisements of the individual girls in mileroticos, pasionprepagos and such. There are the numbers of the girls directly and you do really talk to them individually via WhatsApp.
I'd recommend making an appointment for the same day talking to the girls. You can always leave if you don't like her but just be polite. They would surely do a lineup as well. For that, I might recommend asking the mistress when all of them are there and then just drop by.
The area around Ella's erotic is totally fine to walk around. So no worries at all. However there are not really nice bars or restaurants as in Laurelis (I'm talking western standard higher end). Instead, you'll find there regular Latin style restaurants, just not such a nice atmosphere but fine to sit, wait for the girls to be free, have a brew.
AmorPorFavor
09-15-22, 19:20
Davivienda gives up to 2 million pesos per transaction. The bank does not assess ATM fees. Depending on your deal with the bank that issues your ATM card, you may be charged transaction fees and your per transaction and daily withdrawal limit may be lower than what Davivienda offers.2 million sounds great. Wells just charges the $5 per transaction so it hurts at a 300 m limit. I need to check on any amount limits by Wells.
Be advised that Ellas Erotic has more than one location.
Yes, they do have Sort of a Menu with soft Drinks and Beer. Prices range about 4 k peso for a coke to 10 k peso for international beer (Heineken, Corona). Club Colombia or Aguila (the local beers) are 6 k peso. Didn't see shots or cocktails. The girls don't tend to drink anyway. And there is no real Bar as in a strip club. It's more like the girls bring you whatever you ask for to the room and they take care of you. It's not a terrible idea to have a drink there. Knock yourself out.
In general, when I visit a third world country anywhere in the world, I never never drink shots or cocktails unless I'm with people I really know. But instead I always order beer only and I have the waiters open it where I can see it. In Thailand eg they always open the beer in front of your eyes.
Regarding appointment: if you go to the Ella's Erotic website and take the whatsapp-contact from there, you'll talk to the mistress of the casa. But you can also find the advertisements of the individual girls in mileroticos, pasionprepagos and such. There are the numbers of the girls directly and you do really talk to them individually via WhatsApp.
I'd recommend making an appointment for the same day talking to the girls. You can always leave if you don't like her but just be polite. They would surely do a lineup as well. For that, I might recommend asking the mistress when all of them are there and then just drop by.
The area around Ella's erotic is totally fine to walk around. So no worries at all. However there are not really nice bars or restaurants as in Laurelis (I'm talking western standard higher end). Instead, you'll find there regular Latin style restaurants, just not such a nice atmosphere but fine to sit, wait for the girls to be free, have a brew.
MaddTraveler
09-16-22, 00:39
MDE Trip Report Sept 3-12:
Changed plan from my well planned BOG trip and back to Medellin since a friend wanted to dip his toes for the first time in medellin.
It's only fair since I've been trying to drag him along for a while. We also hanged with couple others from the flight and couple others who lives there.
This is more like a long summary without all the fluff and day to day or by the minute details, still a full update on what's going on currently in MEDE-JEAN.
- AIRPORT:
My buddy didn't even fill out Check-Mig nor vaccinated and he went right through. Both Airports in the US and Colombia didn't ask him. Whereas for me I had.
To show vax card and check-mig at home Airport, Ok Fine!
This dude is like CIA or some shit since for some reason he always sneaks in somehow or skip certain check points. I'm like dude how the heck they asked me.
And not you? I tried making myself feel better telling him it's like they ignore you when you look lost or like an idiot LOL.
Happens many times during our trip, like we went to exch money, and as you well know you have to show your passport to exchange USD which I did, he came.
Behind me and they just gave him pesos no ID no passport asked, I'm like dude you're too suspect man. While he speaks ZERO espanol LOL.
- EXCHANGE RATE:
I had the best rate at 4243/ USD or so at BBVA, 3950/ USD at Exchange store.
- UBER / TAXIS:
Cheap as always most places $1-$3 USD for Uber. 90 Mil /$32 approx for for Airport rides. They always pull that scam toll "peaje" not incl, this time I caught the fucker.
And said yes the fucking peaje is incl in the fee, when we arrive I will show you in the app if not I'll pay. And of course the toll was there. I still tipped the fucker.
When going to the casas, many of the regular taxis don't know them by name nor can get there even if you give them the address, so I use use Uber and voila!
Thing is not all regular taxi drivers have a cell w GPS, most don't and all Ubers must have GPS obviously.
- HOTEL / FOOD:
We stayed at the most noob friendly place, Hotel Dorado LA 70 due to the area being closed to everything like clubs, restaurants, walking distance to metro, stadium.
Street gym, etc. Can walk everywhere and no influx of dirty gringos LOL. Thankfully my bud is money smart as well and didn't like the El Poblado gringo taxes.
Dorado costs less than $35/ day, baclcony view, hot shower, Cold AC, great staff, very comfy bed, good breakfast, chica friendly even two at once and never a fee.
(booked for 2) - Every biz is nearly opened back up, thurs-sat it's a party city till 4-5 am.
- PRIVATE DATES:
Being in town I had to contact some of my usual wifeys from fb / seeking, and made a new non pro from cupid. Great sessions and always BBBJ / BBFS.
Took buddy along as 3rd wheel at first on some of my dates, then later unsuccessfully dated a friend of one my girls. Lot and lots of Google translate.
And he got points for efforts. Still lots of good times, lunches, dinners, drinks w some friendly pretty faces incl some bartenders. The Paisa hospitality.
Is really warm especially when they know you're new in town. I love the vennies, but there's always something special about the Paisa culture and kindness.
- PARQUE LLERA:
Being Sat afternoon on arrival took buddy straight to Llera and Gusto. Place was lit as always, great music. It was 4 of us and we took a table, 3 Bottles back to back.
Hooka, and I can't lie we had an awesome time. Never saw the extra wing-men from that night and one basically married the baddie he met at Gusto.
Most girls were asking $500 USD, then would go down to $300 USD. The lowest quote I had was 500 Mil pesos for 1 HR. My friend and I didn't partake and went on the.
Street and bought two girls w us at 200-250 Mil.
Llera street chicas start at 300 Mil, once you give that "oh really" look they'll either quickly go down to 200 and you can negotiate to 150 especially if a centro rat -.
And if not a centro common dickslinger they'll stick to the 300/250 at the lowest.
You can easily tell by the way they dress, if they've been inside the clubs drinking. Also centro groupies are either not allowed in the clubs, not welcomed being among.
Diff girls or just not their scene.
With the mix of diff chicas, had to school buddy on the basics and on the pricing dynamics. I recognized many former conquests, which I've banged for 30 k, one I paid an.
Upcharge of only 10 k to go bareback incl leche in mouth, and here she was at Llera asking new fools for 300 k, she saw me and we laughed. Had to warn buddy about her.
That she'll eat your dick at centro incl putting a baby in her for a total of 40 k.
Lots of schooling and lots of tutoring. As you can imagine first time is always overwhelming, even on the ride back home in the plane dude was talking aloud about.
His puta adventures w passengers. - was so embarrassing to the point I pretended I didn't know him LOL.
He was taking pictures w putas from the casas and posting and sending to his friends, talking about that shit everywhere. Fool's in his 30's and I had to check in that.
Behavior quick by showing him articles about Cuba-Dave who's banned from DR and CR incl prison time, and Colombia Jake who got sentenced till he took his life in Prison.
Here all for promoting prostitution and sex tourism in social media and online. Had to tell that fool it's not something you want to promote.
Then I remember why I never bring younger friends to this shit even when they beg, Dudes act like they never get laid or seen pussy. Seriously. At llera I'm not sure.
If it was alcohol but mofo was near insane. Kinna like you can tell if and when he finally goes somewhere alone he'll likely get drugged or robbed. When it happens no one can blame me LOL.
Too many Loud mouths and Weekend Warriors or wannbes at Llera like most are reporting. So we only hanged at Gusto that night, then couple other nights we walkd around a bit.
But not inside the clubs w so much foolishness and overpriced chicas. It's funny you'll see 6 dudes in your so called cheap vip chairs, 1 or 2 overpriced chicas, then they'll all leave without chicas.
Or only 1 chica for the whole group LOL. I did the same at Gusto cause that shit is crazy what they're asking. Like Imma let you give me free lap dances since your sipping on my drinks, and get me.
Horny and ready then I'll go to centro lmao. I guess I'm one of those dirty gringos.
- STRIP CLUBS:
Great time at Face II, Bottle, lap dances, exchange numbers and met a chica outside of club, great time. I walk up to the stage and dropped few bills to my fav dancer on the floor, then started getting lots of attention.
I may have done so on purpose, to get all chicas to come to me so I can feel them LOL. Don't steal my game LOL. 300 K is normal rate 40 minutes in club. If she likes you will spend 2 hrs w you in hotel. And I paid 250 LOL.
But w / the drinks, tips I spent like 700 k. But honestly I would pay that anytime for this kinna thrill, dancing, feeling and touching bare breasts, the attention, sneaky fingering, shiiiiit.
- INTRO TO EL CENTRO:
This didn't feel like I was tutoring because now I'm home LOL. Walkd around entire Centro area, visited nearly all the strip clubs and I nearly fell in love w one of the WG there. New rate in El centro street is 50 Mil.
Some askd for 40 Mil.
Conejitas is still 100 Mil to bang, cheap beers like 5 k in most clubs, Barra EJ is 120 k / bang. Some of the others are like 70 k.
Had 3 rounds w a cutie from Conejitas, blanca and she came to the hotel, half a day, 280 k / One of the best time and highlight. BBBJ, very passionate. We had drinks and hanged w buddy. She was cool and even.
Invited me to her home to give us tours. My boy also banged few from Barra Ej, late eves after 11 P lots of beauties even 8's.
I enjoy the lap dances and I normally get lots of eyes on me since I tip, locals don't tip much but I didn't give a shit. Two locals joined my table and offerd drugs, I decl and offerd to tip his two girls he had w him.
Both came and danced w pants down, they werent even working there LOL. Yes I'm crazy. Dude couldn't stop calling me after that since we exch numbers but I didn't answer. I'm sure he wantd to sell me dope.
And pimp his girls. I leave a mark wherever I go LOL.
In centro you can still find the 30 Mil rate or negotiate but why would you, you Goddamn cheap bastards LOL. We're talking less than $8 and I call it free sex.
Centro street quality didn't look too impressive at first, but we did finally see some solid 7-8's near the stairs from the street Cra 53.
Centro imo still has the best MDE has to offer if you're on a budget or just enjoy street hunting like myself. 40-50 k for fuck's sake!! The only problem you'll have in Centro is not enough viagra or running out of leche.
- CASAS:
We visited New Life, Club Amiga de Sexy, Zandaly, Energy, Eros (24 hrs). Many more good ones that we didn't have time. We sessioned on all, Energy is till the best imo although the girls tend to be more mechanical there.
Had the best GFE and friendliness at Club amiga de sexy. I don't care about sharing specific names and numbers in reports or exact addresses. Mongering requires some efforts imo. All of these address are not only avail here.
But all over google for fuck's sake.
I have data always when overseas, I couldn't emphasize enough how convenient it is to be able to use Google maps to find places. I knew more places than some of the locals / chicas like finding restaurants.
Can call Uber to pick them up to / from their home etc. So have some type of data plan. I use GoogleFi, unlimited Intl Data / Sms / Calls for 2 lines, less than 100 bucks.
- SUMMARY:
Overwall it was a great and successful trip. Although Medellin became a bit more popular / saturated after being the most relaxed country during the past two yrs with Covid.
It still can be fun if you make it. SA / Tinder / Cupid / FB are still ok to use but imo not necessary and can be a waste of time and requires a lot of patience.
Since my spanish has really improved, I can now walk up to any girl in the mall or in la 70 and starting talking. I noticed in Col you have to approach the girls (non pros).
I learned this even harder this trip, they don't like to be called or signaled like we do the WG. This is coming from them LOL.
So approcah gently, and introduce yourself and the rest is on you. Try learning about the locals, culture, casas, el centro, or don't be timid if you don't speak spanish. Don't listen to fear.
For ex even taxi drivers will talk shit like oh Centro is peligroso blah blah, then when you get there nothing will happen to you unless you're drunk or stupid, just like any place on the planet.
First you shouldn't even travel if you're so affraid of mingling w locals. Gringos can't teach me shit about Colombia nor improve my Spanish LOL.
Make some efforts to approach the locals and you'll still have a great time. I befriend new locals every trip, couple girls took us to some lounges I'd never know about, not a single gringo in sight.
And ended up making more friends there. One of my semi-pros told me her sis had problems, took me a min to realize it was a referral, even prettier, met and banged and took care of that need.
If you treat them well, WG, Semi, Non pros, they'll treat you right in return. It's a big country so don't be stuck in just the RLD or El Poblado. Bogota is still my fav, but MDE is not dead yet.
Last time I was there in June, Parque Lleras was completely closed and walled off while they were doing construction. Has the construction been completed yet and is it open again for "business"?
Happy hunting.
Snook.
MaddTraveler
09-16-22, 02:05
I don't use credit cards. And Wells Fargo is one of the worst banks, they charge $5 usd fee on every foreign ATM transaction. Also I believe a 3% fee when you use your card for purchases too. As far as Davivienda they allow up to $2 million COP per withdrawal.WF charges a 2% foreign trans fee and $5 for cash withdrawals. It's barely anything. Not that this is good but it's one of the most reliable banks for me when I travel. I also have BOA as a back up and for CC Amex / Discover is what I use w no fees. For those who says don't use CC you're nuts, you have more protection against fraudulent transactions than debit cards LOL. So I use CC for anything credit related incl purchases in restaurants / bars / uber. They can try to overcharge me, they'll just get a charged back no question askd. I still mess w WF since their cards works like a charm on all ATMs and never an issue and in fact starting this mo no need for travel notification. Ha ha!!
It is likely to be another year or more. What does that matter?
Last time I was there in June, Parque Lleras was completely closed and walled off while they were doing construction. Has the construction been completed yet and is it open again for "business"?
Happy hunting.
Snook.
Which destination would you choose for 3-4 days getaway and why? Local talent doesn't matter as I will be bringing my own girl. Flying out of MDE.
Mr Enternational
09-16-22, 03:32
Which destination would you choose for 3-4 days getaway and why?San Andres. But I don't see a need to spend 4 days there. 3 would be good. 2 of these pictures are San Andres and the other is Santa Marta.
Which destination would you choose for 3-4 days getaway and why? Local talent doesn't matter as I will be bringing my own girl. Flying out of MDE.When I went to Santa Marta I had a great fucking time. I also took a chick from medellin with me and we stayed for about a week at this hotel right on the beach, I believe it was called sol inn. 120 k COP a day for a decent room with A / C, balcony with ocean view, even a hammock and table and chairs on the balcony too, and that included a daily breakfast also. We went to various beaches to swim, the one in front of the hotel a few times and also we went to this place called taganga and took a lancha to this playa called playa grande and ate fish and drank and swam in the water which was crystal clear and you could see fish swimming in the water. We also went to rodadero to the playa there but that one sucked because there's too many vendors bothering everyone, but the playa in taganga was fucking amazing. Also the climate was so nice it wasn't even as warm as you would think for being at sea level it actually was really pleasant with intermittent clouds keeping it cool.
I've never been to San Andres yet, so I can't offer any insight on that destination, but Santa Marta was very nice and I recommend it 100%.
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Which destination would you choose for 3-4 days getaway and why? Local talent doesn't matter as I will be bringing my own girl. Flying out of MDE.Santa Marta is my favorite beach town in Colombia. And there is local talent in the streets and Parks which you won't find in San Andres, and the pricing of girls is on par with Medellin.
Litmus Smut
09-16-22, 16:31
Not sure what the hate is for Parque Lleras is on this board, but you can taste the bitterness. For a bunch of frugal gormet types that motto out "there is no wrong way to monger" well, apparently there is by the standards repeatedly tooted on this board.
As a landmark, as something unusual, and as a social epicenter, to the American standard, Parque Lleras is fun and I look forward to it being back in operation.
If you have ever been to Budapest, there is a park called Erzebet ***. It used to be -- I stress "used to be" -- a great park to hang out at. Everyone went there with beer, wine and food, and hung out well into the night. Then the city fenced it off and killed the whole vibe. Now there is a knock off of the London Eye and no night scene. It was fun because it was cheap and organic. Sure, no hookers, but it was a central spot for people to socialize at. Parque Lleras has that same vibe and fit much the same criteria.
So why all the hate? Just because the girls quote higher price there and you don't want to bargain? I got two hours out of a girl for 200 mil. Overcharged? I don't think so. She earned every centavo. She was cute, young, pleasant personality, was 100% willing for all the positions, and it was a 4-minute walk to the hotel, and the thrill of the hunt all added to it.
Beyond mongering, it is just a cool park. The trees and the height differences. The statues and the bird houses. It's just cool. Maybe you can't play sports in a park like that, but it is way better than Parque Poblado, which is another cool park.
It is likely to be another year or more. What does that matter?
Last time I was there in June, Parque Lleras was completely closed and walled off while they were doing construction. Has the construction been completed yet and is it open again for "business"?
Happy hunting.
Snook.
Last time I was there in June, Parque Lleras was completely closed and walled off while they were doing construction. Has the construction been completed yet and is it open again for "business"?Snook.Went there yesterday night, still in construction. Planning and speed are not common qualities here. I think all the shops around it are losing money.
This morning I'll take a walk in Botero plaza.
It is likely to be another year or more. What does that matter?It will be early next year, since getting thru the rainy season which prevented them from putting in the sub-surface drainage system, they have been making a lot more progress as of lately from what I have observed and was told by one of the workers a few weeks back. The Park' completion is sadly needed to rejuvenate the neighborhood, and since more and more SW's from Centro have been showing up to work evenings, I suspect there will be more to follow once the Park re-opens. And this may become problematic if the Park becomes totally awash with Putas.
However, many who used to patronize the establishments around the Parque have migrated up the hill to Provenza. So it will be interesting to see how things pan out relative to the business's and the Putas. At least there will be a lot more seating available as they have installed lots of new benches. I'm sure there will be a lot of press and fanfare when it re-opens. And will probably see lot's of pictures and videos of all the SW's sitting on the benches.
I'm looking at something like Colpatria, Davidienda or BBVA (if they are still fee free).
MaddTraveler
09-16-22, 18:32
Not sure what the hate is for Parque Lleras is on this board, but you can taste the bitterness. For a bunch of frugal gormet types that motto out "there is no wrong way to monger" well, apparently there is by the standards repeatedly tooted on this board.
As a landmark, as something unusual, and as a social epicenter, to the American standard, Parque Lleras is fun and I look forward to it being back in operation.
If you have ever been to Budapest, there is a park called Erzebet ***. It used to be -- I stress "used to be" -- a great park to hang out at. Everyone went there with beer, wine and food, and hung out well into the night. Then the city fenced it off and killed the whole vibe. Now there is a knock off of the London Eye and no night scene. It was fun because it was cheap and organic. Sure, no hookers, but it was a central spot for people to socialize at. Parque Lleras has that same vibe and fit much the same criteria.
So why all the hate? Just because the girls quote higher price there and you don't want to bargain? I got two hours out of a girl for 200 mil. Overcharged? I don't think so. She earned every centavo. She was cute, young, pleasant personality, was 100% willing for all the positions, and it was a 4-minute walk to the hotel, and the thrill of the hunt all added to it.
Beyond mongering, it is just a cool park. The trees and the height differences. The statues and the bird houses. It's just cool. Maybe you can't play sports in a park like that, but it is way better than Parque Poblado, which is another cool park.Sadly I also asked that question when I wasn't around for a few mo just out of curiosity, and bc so many reports here were complaining about it, the park construction.
But after coming from there last week, I barely paid attention to it and I didn't even mention it in my report I just wrote.
It's all business as usual, lots of honeys in the street, they are mainly now in CL 10, and in fact the girls now walk and stand all the way up near La Provencia area where you have 100's of restaurants and regular folks eating and drinking in the street.
Some say they feel like there are more high class clientele in that section. I did pick up few from that area and it's no where near Llera LOL.
From Weds to Sat night there are literally 100's of girls in the street, it's something to see, lots of new faces. Upon entry in that area my reaction is "Lawd help us, I need a stronger Penis" and sneak right in that Drogeria to grab some Sildenafil.
DonCarlos1234
09-16-22, 21:20
It is likely to be another year or more. What does that matter?Pablo Escobar is gone but tourism is big $. Marketing to "digital nomads" Ecotourism, Foodie tours etc. Are all are blowing up Medellin. Marquee Hotel costs near $200/ night. I would rather hang in an area like Parque Lleras where Casacol is actively working with the Medellin Tourism board to UP the quality of everyone's experience. They own 3 properties facing the park. Many more in and around Medellin. Yes the drive around to look for hookers will be gone. You will not get robbed. Sex tourism CAN be part of all this but you will have problems cat calling and acting like a fool. Be respectful and enjoy the upgrades.
DonCarlos1234
09-16-22, 21:27
MDE Trip Report Sept 3-12:
His puta adventures w passengers. - was so embarrassing to the point I pretended I didn't know him LOL.
If you treat them well, WG, Semi, Non pros, they'll treat you right in return. It's a big country so don't be stuck in just the RLD or El Poblado. Bogota is still my fav, but MDE is not dead yet.Looking into experiences with small groups instead of single guys. This info is great.
Not sure what the hate is for Parque Lleras is on this board, but you can taste the bitterness. For a bunch of frugal gormet types that motto out "there is no wrong way to monger" well, apparently there is by the standards repeatedly tooted on this
So why all the hate? Just because the girls quote higher price there and you don't want to bargain? I got two hours out of a girl for 200 mil. Overcharged? I don't think so. She earned every centavo. She was cute, young, pleasant personality, was 100% willing for all the positions, and it was a 4-minute walk to the hotel, and the thrill of the hunt all added to it.
Beyond mongering, it is just a cool park. The trees and the height differences. The statues and the bird houses. It's just cool. Maybe you can't play sports in a park like that, but it is way better than Parque Poblado, which is another cool park.I agree 100%. I always look forward to taking a stroll around the park. It's certainly not the best place to find women, and the restaurants are much better if you walk up to Provenza. But the vibe is great, day or night.
I do fondly remember years ago when you could meet legitimate non-pros in the park. Nowadays most nonpros in the area would not want to be seen with a gringo. But it's still fun.
Not sure what the hate is for Parque Lleras is on this board, but you can taste the bitterness. For a bunch of frugal gormet types that motto out "there is no wrong way to monger" well, apparently there is by the standards repeatedly tooted on this board.
As a landmark, as something unusual, and as a social epicenter, to the American standard, Parque Lleras is fun and I look forward to it being back in operation.
If you have ever been to Budapest, there is a park called Erzebet ***. It used to be -- I stress "used to be" -- a great park to hang out at. Everyone went there with beer, wine and food, and hung out well into the night. Then the city fenced it off and killed the whole vibe. Now there is a knock off of the London Eye and no night scene. It was fun because it was cheap and organic. Sure, no hookers, but it was a central spot for people to socialize at. Parque Lleras has that same vibe and fit much the same criteria.
So why all the hate? Just because the girls quote higher price there and you don't want to bargain? I got two hours out of a girl for 200 mil. Overcharged? I don't think so. She earned every centavo. She was cute, young, pleasant personality, was 100% willing for all the positions, and it was a 4-minute walk to the hotel, and the thrill of the hunt all added to it.
Beyond mongering, it is just a cool park. The trees and the height differences. The statues and the bird houses. It's just cool. Maybe you can't play sports in a park like that, but it is way better than Parque Poblado, which is another cool park.I agree with you. I don't understand the hate for parque lleras. It's great for what it is a central pick up spot for girls with the added benefit of clubs / bars and restaurants surrounding the area. Yes the girls are quoting higher prices than centro. This board tends to skew older retirees with fixed incomes who prefer centro daytime action. There's nothing wrong with that but I'm a person who likes to mix it up I use Facebook / tinder, Casas / strip clubs and Llerras to hunt. I tried centro once and it sketched me out, maybe I need to retry that scene. I prefer nightclubs I can still drink party and take home as money chicks as my wallet allows.
BoopetyBoopClick
09-17-22, 06:02
Where to begin?
First of all, thank you for the lively commentary on this thread. It was an encouraging factor to book a trip (and break up with a girlfriend?) After RTFT one can really see it's an active scene: dynamic, controversial, cheap / expensive, a bit complicated and also easy, but most of all. Something for everything.
For the better part of the past decade, I've preferred SE Asia despite enjoying speaking Spanish and being relatively fluent conversationally. Due to considerations of time zone, climate, direct flights and internet speed, Medellin was really the best and perhaps only viable option for a 1-week trip to "WFH" and pursue a most worthy hobby. Anyhow, here was my approach and experience.
Pre-research:
I decided to sign up for a premium membership on seeking, which I've used before in the States with satisfying if not complicated results. It's much easier than other dating apps / websites and significantly better quality. I did try the other apps for a moment while traveling, and was very depressed with the comparative options.
With Seeking I perused the major destinations with direct flights from the east coast. After a few days evaluation the options, the abundance of Medellin talent was very clear. I do prefer the petite Asian type, and after years of dating accordingly -- I was eager for a change but also looking for familiar territory. There are certainty many chicas in the 18 - 25 range that have nice slim figures, flat bellies and cute faces.
But importantly and perhaps obviously, there is a wide array of different body and face types, that I wasn't necessarily looking for, but happy to encounter in the process of broadening horizons. I think it's safe to say that the Paisas are built different (in many ways), but generally more curvy -- even for the seemingly slim chicas. Not was I was looking for exactly but happy to have some variety.
Upon arrival:
Things do become slightly blurry here on out so it's hard to provide a good play-by-play as others have done. The options on Seeking were all very good in quality, but varied drastically in price point. Quotes anywhere from $80 to $250 USD for TLN. In a pinch, I went with a 26 year old on the higher end of the price spectrum because of her responsiveness, willingness, smoke-show pictures and overall vibe (pics for reference).
We actually had a very fun night and she was in fact very sexy / GFE-- started the night partying in El Poblado, then a rooftop in Manrique to get out of the bubble, then Fase II (long story, didn't see any good options for me incidentally) before returning to a hotel in Poblado. From what I recall, decent BJ trading with DATY, decent sex in multiple positions. Another round in the morning but I was a bit too hungover to make the most of it. The quality of service was certainly not worth the price, despite the absolute stunner looks. But I couldn't carry the regret too long as it was basically a friend to go out and party with for my first night, and its always a pleasure to wake up in bed next to someone beautiful. She left me her bolsita of perico which I accidently flew home with and have yet to try.
After that:
I tried a couple of other places. Became acquaintances with a taxista. Went to La Isla (not for me, personally-- very strange format, lots of plastic surgery, older chicas, etc.). Then the taxista and I decided to find some SWs in the centro "mas joven que profesional". And despite the blurry vision (ron de caldas, perico, 2 c) there were actually quite surprisingly good quality of options. No idea where it was, but decided to pickup 2 young slim chicas for 90,000 COP each. The taxista ended up getting pulled over for drunk driving and the police told me to leave the taxi, the 2 chicas pulled me into a different one. The rest is history, but the taxista was mad that I didn't bribe the cops, I was relatively happy to find el mejor equipo for the most satisfying (only) threesome I've had in years. They really did make a good team: alternating blow jobs (one deepthroat while the other licked balls), alternate riding, and then the tighter one rode me to completion while the sexier one moaned in my ear to get me there. A unique, satisfying and economical experience.
Subsequently:
I became a little hesitant to get too involved with locals. (I think using 2 see makes everyone kind of crazy, myself included). And a friend arriving decreased my appetite for getting in weird situations with Paisas. So basically the remainder of the week I was content to pick up randoms from Calle 10 / Parque Lleras.
I suppose that's a whole new post, and in retrospect I didn't pack too much useful info into here. Hopefully this provides some anecdotal experience for folks that like this approach to the hobby. If worthwhile and I can provide some less hazy details from the rest of the trip: Mostly picking up SWs in Lleras and encountering an escopolamina incident.
Cheers.
And this may become problematic if the Park becomes totally awash with Putas. ...
And will probably see lot's of pictures and videos of all the SW's sitting on the benches.I don't know how it will be when the park re-opens; but for a time before it closed, putas were not allowed to ply their trade in the park, and open alcoholic containers were not allowed. There were many police patrolling in and around the park to enforce the ban.
Which destination would you choose for 3-4 days getaway and why? Local talent doesn't matter as I will be bringing my own girl.Santa Marta, by a long way. Hotels and better, restaurants are better, beaches are better, more stuff to do, In every way it is far better. Been to San Andres 3 times and always found it super boring, and very mediocre as a holiday island. I would say even the lowliest island in Thailand is far more fun than San Andres. I don't see any attraction in it at all. Santa Marta however, has plenty going for it. Whats best is that it is safe and small. You can walk every where you need to go in town.
Even if you didn't take a girl, there are plenty of chica options too.
I don't know how it will be when the park re-opens; but for a time before it closed, putas were not allowed to ply their trade in the park, and open alcoholic containers were not allowed. There were many police patrolling in and around the park to enforce the ban.It's going to be interesting when the Park re-opens, given that there are more workers from Centro there now than ever before. During the time you mentioned, a lot of people would congregate in front of the liquor stores and consume their beverages, and the Putas would be on the perimeter of the park but not inside, no different than since the onset of construction.
Regardless, the Putas will always be there. Currently they are primarily on the Gusto's side of the Park in the street, on the small side streets from Calle 10, and along Calle 10.
I can't imagine the Police enforcing a ban when the Park re-opens on Putas on the streets surrounding the park, versus inside the park which they can regulate.
I'm waiting for the day when the Putas migrate up the hill and start plying their trade in Provenza. I've never seen any working up there, and it's basically just a few blocks up the hill from Lleras.
Maybe they are there and I haven't noticed them.
I just came back from my first visit to Medellin and this is a short post with some observations.
I was not robbed or drugged and I did not feel that it was any more dangerous than other Latin American countries. I followed all the usual precautions and I was fine. I think that if you do the same, you will be fine too.
I only speak the bare minimum of Spanish and I was able to get by. In Poblado, there are a lot of gringos and so there is some English spoken. Even in places where English is not spoken, using Google Translate will help you communicate.
I decided to focus on Facebook girls and they were as flakey as you would expect but there were some gems among the Facebook girls and I was happy with the results. Based on research, I decided that 200 to 250 mil for 2 hours plus transport was my target price and for the most part, I was able to get young attractive girls 18-22 years old to agree to that. I might have been able to go lower but that price seems fair to me. Some girls were open to barebacking, some were not. Some girls wanted condom for everything and would not budge. The gem of the trip was an attractive slim girl who just turned 18 a few weeks ago (with ID proof) and was friendly and sweet and good in bed. She was the only girl I saw twice on this trip.
I thought everyone provided either a good or great performance. I was not unhappy with anyone except for the girls who did a covered blowjob but I understood their concerns about catching a STD.
There were some girls who agree to meet me and then ghosted me. There were some girls who were very late. There were some girls who cancelled within two hours of the appointment. There was a lot of waiting. That is Facebook for you. If you can't take this, you definitely should not use Facebook to get girls.
Guatape tour is the best sightseeing tour. I enjoyed it and it is relatively cheap at $25 for an all day tour.
Would I go back? I already purchased my ticket for November to return. That is all you need to know.
Santa Marta, by a long way. Hotels and better, restaurants are better, beaches are better, more stuff to do, In every way it is far better. Been to San Andres 3 times and always found it super boring, and very mediocre as a holiday island. I would say even the lowliest island in Thailand is far more fun than San Andres. I don't see any attraction in it at all. Santa Marta however, has plenty going for it. Whats best is that it is safe and small. You can walk every where you need to go in town.
Even if you didn't take a girl, there are plenty of chica options too.My only concern is that Santa Marta is not safe (according to the local girl that I know). Not sure if it has always been like that or just got worse recently.
Why did you keep coming back to San Andres though?
Centro.
I cannot find a quiet place to sleep well late in the morning, Even my room at Energy sucks. But this is not stopping me. A Centro tour was a good way for starting, you can watch, hunt, have rest for eating and hunt again. Honestly I didn't find many perls, but searchin was fun. I went up to the room with the prettiest of the tour: a small flaca venny, 23, perfect body and no signs of previous pregnancies exept for a small sign of the cesarean delivery. Damage 50 k +12 for the room. She was really involved, much more that the average centro girl, and at the end she was even sweaty! She was clean with a good smell, and I asked her number for a 1 h sin condo session in my hotel which she quoted 150 k.
Barra Ejecutiva.
I arrived there at 9:30. No dinner yet, but at 80 meters from the place there is a 24 h restaurant with nice grill options. Inside the bar there is action, with girls alternating on the stage and getting completely naked. Unfortunately girls are mostly for Colombian taste, while I like flaca. I got a bear for 17 K, and then I staid there for 1 h, without any other request. Keep some 2 k bills in your pocket to tip the girls once they finish their exhibition.
Luna Lunera.
I wanted to see Conejitas, but my taxi driver convinced me that it was not good for me, and convinced me to go to Luna Lunera (where I guess he had a commission). It was my firs time here, with a black and white experience. There is a 20 k fee to get in and they put a bracelet on your wirst. Once inside, I asked a bear, butthey said it is not possible, that I had to take a bottle of alchol. I do not like liquours so I was ready to go, and only at this point the muchacho asked me if I wanted to see the girls and eventually decide on one. He called for a line up, and I chose one 23 why flaca colombiana, 30 minutes damage is 210 all included, plus the 20 entrance fee. With condom, it take long time for me to arrive to the end, and this girl had to work a lot, changing stile and rhythm several time: good performer!. Girl quality is good at Luna Lunera, as usual mostly big asses and fake tits, but there where a few young beauty.
A free consideration: my grandmother was born in 1901 and she was considered one of the most beautiful woman in her little city in Italy. She had a lot of pics, showing her big ass, big tits (covered) and her smile with tick natural lips. Well, after 30 years of anorexic models, and 15 years of athletic bodies, isn't the cycle repeating itself through the big asses and tight waist of the 1920's?
My only concern is that Santa Marta is not safe (according to the local girl that I know). Not sure if it has always been like that or just got worse recently.
I beg to differ, I felt very safe in Santa Marta both times I went there, of course YMMV but I wouldn't hesitate to go to Santa Marta again.
Centro.
I cannot find a quiet place to sleep well late in the morning, Even my room at Energy sucks. But this is not stopping me. A Centro tour was a good way for starting, you can watch, hunt, have rest for eating and hunt again. Honestly I didn't find many perls, but searchin was fun. I went up to the room with the prettiest of the tour: a small flaca venny, 23, perfect body and no signs of previous pregnancies exept for a small sign of the cesarean delivery. Damage 50 k +12 for the room. She was really involved, much more that the average centro girl, and at the end she was even sweaty! She was clean with a good smell, and I asked her number for a 1 h sin condo session in my hotel which she quoted 150 k.
Barra Ejecutiva.
I arrived there at 9:30. No dinner yet, but at 80 meters from the place there is a 24 h restaurant with nice grill options. Inside the bar there is action, with girls alternating on the stage and getting completely naked. Unfortunately girls are mostly for Colombian taste, while I like flaca. I got a bear for 17 K, and then I staid there for 1 h, without any other request. Keep some 2 k bills in your pocket to tip the girls once they finish their exhibition.
Luna Lunera.
I wanted to see Conejitas, but my taxi driver convinced me that it was not good for me, and convinced me to go to Luna Lunera (where I guess he had a commission). It was my firs time here, with a black and white experience. There is a 20 k fee to get in and they put a bracelet on your wirst. Once inside, I asked a bear, butthey said it is not possible, that I had to take a bottle of alchol. I do not like liquours so I was ready to go, and only at this point the muchacho asked me if I wanted to see the girls and eventually decide on one. He called for a line up, and I chose one 23 why flaca colombiana, 30 minutes damage is 210 all included, plus the 20 entrance fee. With condom, it take long time for me to arrive to the end, and this girl had to work a lot, changing stile and rhythm several time: good performer!. Girl quality is good at Luna Lunera, as usual mostly big asses and fake tits, but there where a few young beauty.
A free consideration: my grandmother was born in 1901 and she was considered one of the most beautiful woman in her little city in Italy. She had a lot of pics, showing her big ass, big tits (covered) and her smile with tick natural lips. Well, after 30 years of anorexic models, and 15 years of athletic bodies, isn't the cycle repeating itself through the big asses and tight waist of the 1920's?Damn 210 k for 30 minutes at luna now, holy shit that price has changed a lot.
Surfer you probably know the self appointed mayor of Provenza. Her real job is owner of La Tasca, the noisy hole in the wall Spanish restaurant that specializes in Paella. It's directly across from the also noisy Burdo and Gato. She is a champion of the anti puta policy in Provenza. Prepagos are tolerated as long as they ply their trade discreetly and do not engage in criminal activity. Those two conditions of course rule out most every Parque Lleras provider. The La Tasca owner went viral a while back when she sicced the police on a foreigner who was later deported. The foreigner hired a prepago / cam girl to dress up in skimpy lingerie, high heels, and a dog collar with a leash he used to lead her through Provenza. The "couple" arrived in a late model SUV and the foreigner was smartly dressed. He presented himself as a successful hedonist of means. The police shut it down and the La Tasca lady made a major show of it on her Barrio Provenza instagram channel. Her central message was "business owners have invested too much to tolerate prepagos and disrespectful foreigners" (loosley translated). Mayor Quintero quickly jumped on the bandwagon when the incident caught the attention of the international media. Quintero typically seeks political advantage of situations. In this case, he publicly pressured now ex-President Duque and his conservative government to expel the foreigner for crimes against the dignity of Colombian women. So, yes, there are providers in Provenza but it is far from the fish in a barrel scene of Lleras or Centro. The authorities are quick to chase away any of the hardcore Lleras bunnies. All it takes to ruin all the recent good tourism publicity of Provenza (e. G. "top ten coolest neighborhoods") is a few Lleras style scopalomine or mugging incidents.
It's going to be interesting when the Park re-opens, given that there are more workers from Centro there now than ever before. During the time you mentioned, a lot of people would congregate in front of the liquor stores and consume their beverages, and the Putas would be on the perimeter of the park but not inside, no different than since the onset of construction.
Regardless, the Putas will always be there. Currently they are primarily on the Gusto's side of the Park in the street, on the small side streets from Calle 10, and along Calle 10.
I can't imagine the Police enforcing a ban when the Park re-opens on Putas on the streets surrounding the park, versus inside the park which they can regulate.
I'm waiting for the day when the Putas migrate up the hill and start plying their trade in Provenza. I've never seen any working up there, and it's basically just a few blocks up the hill from Lleras.
Maybe they are there and I haven't noticed them.
Yes it has, Luna is flirting with clip joint territory. I think you can negotiate lower prices during daytime hours. Of course the selection is not going to be as good. Also, buying drinks is optional. My favorite thing about Luna has always been its 24 hour opening hours.
Damn 210 k for 30 minutes at luna now, holy shit that price has changed a lot.
AmorPorFavor
09-17-22, 19:27
Where to begin?
First of all, thank you for the lively commentary on this thread. It was an encouraging factor to book a trip (and break up with a girlfriend?) After RTFT one can really see it's an active scene: dynamic, controversial, cheap / expensive, a bit complicated and also easy, but most of all. Something for everything.
For the better part of the past decade, I've preferred SE Asia despite enjoying speaking Spanish and being relatively fluent conversationally. Due to considerations of time zone, climate, direct flights and internet speed, Medellin was really the best and perhaps only viable option for a 1-week trip to "WFH" and pursue a most worthy hobby. Anyhow, here was my approach and experience.
Pre-research:
I decided to sign up for a premium membership on seeking, which I've used before in the States with satisfying if not complicated results. It's much easier than other dating apps / websites and significantly better quality. I did try the other apps for a moment while traveling, and was very depressed with the comparative options.
With Seeking I perused the major destinations with direct flights from the east coast. After a few days evaluation the options, the abundance of Medellin talent was very clear. I do prefer the petite Asian type, and after years of dating accordingly -- I was eager for a change but also looking for familiar territory. There are certainty many chicas in the 18 - 25 range that have nice slim figures, flat bellies and cute faces.
But importantly and perhaps obviously, there is a wide array of different body and face types, that I wasn't necessarily looking for, but happy to encounter in the process of broadening horizons. I think it's safe to say that the Paisas are built different (in many ways), but generally more curvy -- even for the seemingly slim chicas. Not was I was looking for exactly but happy to have some variety.
Upon arrival:
Things do become slightly blurry here on out so it's hard to provide a good play-by-play as others have done. The options on Seeking were all very good in quality, but varied drastically in price point. Quotes anywhere from $80 to $250 USD for TLN. In a pinch, I went with a 26 year old on the higher end of the price spectrum because of her responsiveness, willingness, smoke-show pictures and overall vibe (pics for reference).
We actually had a very fun night and she was in fact very sexy / GFE-- started the night partying in El Poblado, then a rooftop in Manrique to get out of the bubble, then Fase II (long story, didn't see any good options for me incidentally) before returning to a hotel in Poblado. From what I recall, decent BJ trading with DATY, decent sex in multiple positions. Another round in the morning but I was a bit too hungover to make the most of it. The quality of service was certainly not worth the price, despite the absolute stunner looks. But I couldn't carry the regret too long as it was basically a friend to go out and party with for my first night, and its always a pleasure to wake up in bed next to someone beautiful. She left me her bolsita of perico which I accidently flew home with and have yet to try.
After that:
I tried a couple of other places. Became acquaintances with a taxista. Went to La Isla (not for me, personally-- very strange format, lots of plastic surgery, older chicas, etc.). Then the taxista and I decided to find some SWs in the centro "mas joven que profesional". And despite the blurry vision (ron de caldas, perico, 2 c) there were actually quite surprisingly good quality of options. No idea where it was, but decided to pickup 2 young slim chicas for 90,000 COP each. The taxista ended up getting pulled over for drunk driving and the police told me to leave the taxi, the 2 chicas pulled me into a different one. The rest is history, but the taxista was mad that I didn't bribe the cops, I was relatively happy to find el mejor equipo for the most satisfying (only) threesome I've had in years. They really did make a good team: alternating blow jobs (one deepthroat while the other licked balls), alternate riding, and then the tighter one rode me to completion while the sexier one moaned in my ear to get me there. A unique, satisfying and economical experience.
Subsequently:
I became a little hesitant to get too involved with locals. (I think using 2 see makes everyone kind of crazy, myself included). And a friend arriving decreased my appetite for getting in weird situations with Paisas. So basically the remainder of the week I was content to pick up randoms from Calle 10 / Parque Lleras.
I suppose that's a whole new post, and in retrospect I didn't pack too much useful info into here. Hopefully this provides some anecdotal experience for folks that like this approach to the hobby. If worthwhile and I can provide some less hazy details from the rest of the trip: Mostly picking up SWs in Lleras and encountering an escopolamina incident.
Cheers.Nice report. How much was the SA girl? Did she give BBBJ? Did you hook up with any FB chicas? What happened with the scopamine?
My only concern is that Santa Marta is not safe (according to the local girl that I know). Not sure if it has always been like that or just got worse recently.
I've been going to Santa Marta for years, and have never witnessed or heard of anything un-safe within the town.
What you may have heard about though was the violence associated with the drug cartels within the Magdalena Department and their turf wars which has been happening.
In reality, Santa Marta is a hidden gem in Colombia, and most people prefer it over San Andres and Cartagena, and it's way cheaper. It's where a lot of the Colombinas go, especially Rodalero, about 12 km away from Santa Marta which is similar to Cartagena with a wide beach and high rise apartments.
My recommendation though would be to stay in Santa Marta versus Rodalero.
Mr Enternational
09-17-22, 19:43
My only concern is that Santa Marta is not safe (according to the local girl that I know).
Anywhere you go on earth, the local people say it is not safe.
It's going to be interesting when the Park re-opens, given that there are more workers from Centro there now than ever before. During the time you mentioned, a lot of people would congregate in front of the liquor stores and consume their beverages, and the Putas would be on the perimeter of the park but not inside, no different than since the onset of construction.
Regardless, the Putas will always be there. Currently they are primarily on the Gusto's side of the Park in the street, on the small side streets from Calle 10, and along Calle 10.
I can't imagine the Police enforcing a ban when the Park re-opens on Putas on the streets surrounding the park, versus inside the park which they can regulate.
I'm waiting for the day when the Putas migrate up the hill and start plying their trade in Provenza. I've never seen any working up there, and it's basically just a few blocks up the hill from Lleras.
Maybe they are there and I haven't noticed them.I've been in that area many times, around Lleras, and in my time there was almost never any action in the actual park. It was a place that people would walk through to get to the other side. Now they can't while it is under construction. I don't get the obsession about the construction and the park part being closed whatever. It never had anything to do with anything other than being a bit of greenery in an entertainment district, part of which is considered Parque Lleras. Yes, you could not consume alcohol in the park, but you could carry an open beer on the streets around, and that is where all the people were. Police have, in the past, at times kept working girls out of the general area, with mixed success. When I was there a few years back there were very very few working girls on the streets in Lleras, but police of the city or whoever decides apparently backed down on that later on. But it had nothing to do with the 1/2 square block that has the trees and is actually a park.
Parque Lleras entertainment district was Calle 9 A, 9, 8 a, and 8 between Carrerra 37 and Carrerra 40 then 39. That is it. West of that is Provenza which is part of La Florida I believe, north is LaLinda, immediately east is Astorga, and south is El Poblado, but all of these are part of the communa of Poblado which has a population of almost 130,000 people. Poblado is Comuna 14 of the 16 or so in Medellin.
My only concern is that Santa Marta is not safe (according to the local girl that I know). Not sure if it has always been like that or just got worse recently.
Why did you keep coming back to San Andres though?Santa Marta is safer than any other city I know in Colombia. The place is absolutely swarming with police. They are experiencing a real touist boom so there are police on almost every corner, trying to protect the golden goose.
First time was with my LT GF. Second time was for a 3-some I couldn't turn down (could have been anywhere). 3rd time was cheap flights and only 2 nights with a girl that was begging me to go. Whereas I spent maybe 3 years in Santa Marta, on and off. Am there now.
FYI there is a lower cost, less restrictive casa just next door to Energy. I don't believe it has a name and they no longer do line ups. The girls work off mileroticos and similar web sites, by appointment. How much less than Energy, almost half at 90 K / half four + any extra you can think of.
MDE Trip Report Sept 3-12:
Changed plan from my well planned BOG trip and back to Medellin since a friend wanted to dip his toes for the first time in medellin.
It's only fair since I've been trying to drag him along for a while. We also hanged with couple others from the flight and couple others who lives there.
This is more like a long summary without all the fluff and day to day or by the minute details, still a full update on what's going on currently in MEDE-JEAN.
- AIRPORT:
My buddy didn't even fill out Check-Mig nor vaccinated and he went right through. Both Airports in the US and Colombia didn't ask him. Whereas for me I had.
To show vax card and check-mig at home Airport, Ok Fine!
This dude is like CIA or some shit since for some reason he always sneaks in somehow or skip certain check points. I'm like dude how the heck they asked me.
And not you? I tried making myself feel better telling him it's like they ignore you when you look lost or like an idiot LOL.
Happens many times during our trip, like we went to exch money, and as you well know you have to show your passport to exchange USD which I did, he came.
Behind me and they just gave him pesos no ID no passport asked, I'm like dude you're too suspect man. While he speaks ZERO espanol LOL.
- EXCHANGE RATE:
I had the best rate at 4243/ USD or so at BBVA, 3950/ USD at Exchange store.
- UBER / TAXIS:
Cheap as always most places $1-$3 USD for Uber. 90 Mil /$32 approx for for Airport rides. They always pull that scam toll "peaje" not incl, this time I caught the fucker.
And said yes the fucking peaje is incl in the fee, when we arrive I will show you in the app if not I'll pay. And of course the toll was there. I still tipped the fucker.
When going to the casas, many of the regular taxis don't know them by name nor can get there even if you give them the address, so I use use Uber and voila!
Thing is not all regular taxi drivers have a cell w GPS, most don't and all Ubers must have GPS obviously.
- HOTEL / FOOD:
We stayed at the most noob friendly place, Hotel Dorado LA 70 due to the area being closed to everything like clubs, restaurants, walking distance to metro, stadium.
Street gym, etc. Can walk everywhere and no influx of dirty gringos LOL. Thankfully my bud is money smart as well and didn't like the El Poblado gringo taxes.
Dorado costs less than $35/ day, baclcony view, hot shower, Cold AC, great staff, very comfy bed, good breakfast, chica friendly even two at once and never a fee.
(booked for 2) - Every biz is nearly opened back up, thurs-sat it's a party city till 4-5 am.
- PRIVATE DATES:
Being in town I had to contact some of my usual wifeys from fb / seeking, and made a new non pro from cupid. Great sessions and always BBBJ / BBFS.
Took buddy along as 3rd wheel at first on some of my dates, then later unsuccessfully dated a friend of one my girls. Lot and lots of Google translate.
And he got points for efforts. Still lots of good times, lunches, dinners, drinks w some friendly pretty faces incl some bartenders. The Paisa hospitality.
Is really warm especially when they know you're new in town. I love the vennies, but there's always something special about the Paisa culture and kindness.
- PARQUE LLERA:
Being Sat afternoon on arrival took buddy straight to Llera and Gusto. Place was lit as always, great music. It was 4 of us and we took a table, 3 Bottles back to back.
Hooka, and I can't lie we had an awesome time. Never saw the extra wing-men from that night and one basically married the baddie he met at Gusto.
Most girls were asking $500 USD, then would go down to $300 USD. The lowest quote I had was 500 Mil pesos for 1 HR. My friend and I didn't partake and went on the.
Street and bought two girls w us at 200-250 Mil.
Llera street chicas start at 300 Mil, once you give that "oh really" look they'll either quickly go down to 200 and you can negotiate to 150 especially if a centro rat -.
And if not a centro common dickslinger they'll stick to the 300/250 at the lowest.
You can easily tell by the way they dress, if they've been inside the clubs drinking. Also centro groupies are either not allowed in the clubs, not welcomed being among.
Diff girls or just not their scene.
With the mix of diff chicas, had to school buddy on the basics and on the pricing dynamics. I recognized many former conquests, which I've banged for 30 k, one I paid an.
Upcharge of only 10 k to go bareback incl leche in mouth, and here she was at Llera asking new fools for 300 k, she saw me and we laughed. Had to warn buddy about her.
That she'll eat your dick at centro incl putting a baby in her for a total of 40 k.
Lots of schooling and lots of tutoring. As you can imagine first time is always overwhelming, even on the ride back home in the plane dude was talking aloud about.
His puta adventures w passengers. - was so embarrassing to the point I pretended I didn't know him LOL.
He was taking pictures w putas from the casas and posting and sending to his friends, talking about that shit everywhere. Fool's in his 30's and I had to check in that.
Behavior quick by showing him articles about Cuba-Dave who's banned from DR and CR incl prison time, and Colombia Jake who got sentenced till he took his life in Prison.
Here all for promoting prostitution and sex tourism in social media and online. Had to tell that fool it's not something you want to promote.
Then I remember why I never bring younger friends to this shit even when they beg, Dudes act like they never get laid or seen pussy. Seriously. At llera I'm not sure.
If it was alcohol but mofo was near insane. Kinna like you can tell if and when he finally goes somewhere alone he'll likely get drugged or robbed. When it happens no one can blame me LOL.
Too many Loud mouths and Weekend Warriors or wannbes at Llera like most are reporting. So we only hanged at Gusto that night, then couple other nights we walkd around a bit.
But not inside the clubs w so much foolishness and overpriced chicas. It's funny you'll see 6 dudes in your so called cheap vip chairs, 1 or 2 overpriced chicas, then they'll all leave without chicas.
Or only 1 chica for the whole group LOL. I did the same at Gusto cause that shit is crazy what they're asking. Like Imma let you give me free lap dances since your sipping on my drinks, and get me.
Horny and ready then I'll go to centro lmao. I guess I'm one of those dirty gringos.
- STRIP CLUBS:
Great time at Face II, Bottle, lap dances, exchange numbers and met a chica outside of club, great time. I walk up to the stage and dropped few bills to my fav dancer on the floor, then started getting lots of attention.
I may have done so on purpose, to get all chicas to come to me so I can feel them LOL. Don't steal my game LOL. 300 K is normal rate 40 minutes in club. If she likes you will spend 2 hrs w you in hotel. And I paid 250 LOL.
But w / the drinks, tips I spent like 700 k. But honestly I would pay that anytime for this kinna thrill, dancing, feeling and touching bare breasts, the attention, sneaky fingering, shiiiiit.
- INTRO TO EL CENTRO:
This didn't feel like I was tutoring because now I'm home LOL. Walkd around entire Centro area, visited nearly all the strip clubs and I nearly fell in love w one of the WG there. New rate in El centro street is 50 Mil.
Some askd for 40 Mil.
Conejitas is still 100 Mil to bang, cheap beers like 5 k in most clubs, Barra EJ is 120 k / bang. Some of the others are like 70 k.
Had 3 rounds w a cutie from Conejitas, blanca and she came to the hotel, half a day, 280 k / One of the best time and highlight. BBBJ, very passionate. We had drinks and hanged w buddy. She was cool and even.
Invited me to her home to give us tours. My boy also banged few from Barra Ej, late eves after 11 P lots of beauties even 8's.
I enjoy the lap dances and I normally get lots of eyes on me since I tip, locals don't tip much but I didn't give a shit. Two locals joined my table and offerd drugs, I decl and offerd to tip his two girls he had w him.
Both came and danced w pants down, they werent even working there LOL. Yes I'm crazy. Dude couldn't stop calling me after that since we exch numbers but I didn't answer. I'm sure he wantd to sell me dope.
And pimp his girls. I leave a mark wherever I go LOL.
In centro you can still find the 30 Mil rate or negotiate but why would you, you Goddamn cheap bastards LOL. We're talking less than $8 and I call it free sex.
Centro street quality didn't look too impressive at first, but we did finally see some solid 7-8's near the stairs from the street Cra 53.
Centro imo still has the best MDE has to offer if you're on a budget or just enjoy street hunting like myself. 40-50 k for fuck's sake!! The only problem you'll have in Centro is not enough viagra or running out of leche.
- CASAS:
We visited New Life, Club Amiga de Sexy, Zandaly, Energy, Eros (24 hrs). Many more good ones that we didn't have time. We sessioned on all, Energy is till the best imo although the girls tend to be more mechanical there.
Had the best GFE and friendliness at Club amiga de sexy. I don't care about sharing specific names and numbers in reports or exact addresses. Mongering requires some efforts imo. All of these address are not only avail here.
But all over google for fuck's sake.
I have data always when overseas, I couldn't emphasize enough how convenient it is to be able to use Google maps to find places. I knew more places than some of the locals / chicas like finding restaurants.
Can call Uber to pick them up to / from their home etc. So have some type of data plan. I use GoogleFi, unlimited Intl Data / Sms / Calls for 2 lines, less than 100 bucks.
- SUMMARY:
Overwall it was a great and successful trip. Although Medellin became a bit more popular / saturated after being the most relaxed country during the past two yrs with Covid.
It still can be fun if you make it. SA / Tinder / Cupid / FB are still ok to use but imo not necessary and can be a waste of time and requires a lot of patience.
Since my spanish has really improved, I can now walk up to any girl in the mall or in la 70 and starting talking. I noticed in Col you have to approach the girls (non pros).
I learned this even harder this trip, they don't like to be called or signaled like we do the WG. This is coming from them LOL.
So approcah gently, and introduce yourself and the rest is on you. Try learning about the locals, culture, casas, el centro, or don't be timid if you don't speak spanish. Don't listen to fear.
For ex even taxi drivers will talk shit like oh Centro is peligroso blah blah, then when you get there nothing will happen to you unless you're drunk or stupid, just like any place on the planet.
First you shouldn't even travel if you're so affraid of mingling w locals. Gringos can't teach me shit about Colombia nor improve my Spanish LOL.
Make some efforts to approach the locals and you'll still have a great time. I befriend new locals every trip, couple girls took us to some lounges I'd never know about, not a single gringo in sight.
And ended up making more friends there. One of my semi-pros told me her sis had problems, took me a min to realize it was a referral, even prettier, met and banged and took care of that need.
If you treat them well, WG, Semi, Non pros, they'll treat you right in return. It's a big country so don't be stuck in just the RLD or El Poblado. Bogota is still my fav, but MDE is not dead yet.
MarquisdeSade1
09-18-22, 13:47
Centro.
I cannot find a quiet place to sleep well late in the morning, Even my room at Energy sucks. But this is not stopping me. A Centro tour was a good way for starting, you can watch, hunt, have rest for eating and hunt again. Honestly I didn't find many perls, but searchin was fun. I went up to the room with the prettiest of the tour: a small flaca venny, 23, perfect body and no signs of previous pregnancies exept for a small sign of the cesarean delivery. Damage 50 k +12 for the room. She was really involved, much more that the average centro girl, and at the end she was even sweaty! She was clean with a good smell, and I asked her number for a 1 h sin condo session in my hotel which she quoted 150 k.
Barra Ejecutiva.
I arrived there at 9:30. No dinner yet, but at 80 meters from the place there is a 24 h restaurant with nice grill options. Inside the bar there is action, with girls alternating on the stage and getting completely naked. Unfortunately girls are mostly for Colombian taste, while I like flaca. I got a bear for 17 K, and then I staid there for 1 h, without any other request. Keep some 2 k bills in your pocket to tip the girls once they finish their exhibition.
Luna Lunera.
I wanted to see Conejitas, but my taxi driver convinced me that it was not good for me, and convinced me to go to Luna Lunera (where I guess he had a commission). It was my firs time here, with a black and white experience. There is a 20 k fee to get in and they put a bracelet on your wirst. Once inside, I asked a bear, butthey said it is not possible, that I had to take a bottle of alchol. I do not like liquours so I was ready to go, and only at this point the muchacho asked me if I wanted to see the girls and eventually decide on one. He called for a line up, and I chose one 23 why flaca colombiana, 30 minutes damage is 210 all included, plus the 20 entrance fee. With condom, it take long time for me to arrive to the end, and this girl had to work a lot, changing stile and rhythm several time: good performer!. Girl quality is good at Luna Lunera, as usual mostly big asses and fake tits, but there where a few young beauty.
A free consideration: my grandmother was born in 1901 and she was considered one of the most beautiful woman in her little city in Italy. She had a lot of pics, showing her big ass, big tits (covered) and her smile with tick natural lips. Well, after 30 years of anorexic models, and 15 years of athletic bodies, isn't the cycle repeating itself through the big asses and tight waist of the 1920's?Isn't the cycle repeating itself through the big asses and tight waist of the 1920's?
IMO.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sweet%20lemons
Some guys just really love what they can get, sometimes the idiom "beggars can't be choosers" comes to mind LMAO.
Be advised that Ellas Erotic has more than one location.Trying to reply to your post great report and intel!
Is conejitas and hilton grill and surrounding bars safe to visit around 9 or 10 pm to see the talent?
I was in Medellin for ten days two weeks ago. It was my sixth trip this year. I had little bit bad experience before with different girls mainly from Facebook and people in general like in stores, hotels etc.
In my last trip, I had really very scary traumatic experience with a Chica from Facebook. She looks pretty in picture, referred by her friend, Isa, who upsold herself with below average performance, just too mechanical with no friendly attitude. However, she looked pretty with nice body with big and round back. However, I would not recommend. My friends were also very disappointed with her. Before leaving, she recommended her friend, Valentina Zapata and said she would contact me.
When Zapata initially contacted me, I just ignored her given her friend's performance and cold attitude, but she was persistent. So I finally scheduled a time afternoon at 2 pm. She shows up usually like any other Chica an hour late. We had initial formality and little chat in 5 minutes. Thought she was nice and pretty. Indeed, she was. We negotiated service and amount a day before. She agreed to all. After 5 minutes of chitchat, she jumped into action. In initial negotiation, she agreed to kissing and bbj. But now she refused. I showed her texts what she agreed for. But no use. She did a lame 2-minute BJ that I felt as if john was in a bucket mouth. Felt no contact to john and no tight deep suction whatsoever. Then, we got into session which did not even last for ten minutes. Within thirty-five minutes since she entered, she here goes I am tired, have to leave and my mom is waiting outside. I said I don't if your mom is waiting as we agreed to 90 minutes, so you have to stay. She refused and wanted to leave. I didn't even come.
I told since you spent 35 minutes, so I pay only half of whatever we agreed. That's it!! It flipped her out. She started shouting and screaming very loud. I tried to calm her down, but she wouldn't back down. She threatened to call the police. I said OK, call the police. I had never seen such a rage before. She was totally different person as if she was possessed. She kept screaming very loud and suddenly grabbed my brand-new phone and about to smash it to the floor, I grabbed her hand to stop it. Then, least expected, she very powerfully hit me on my face with the phone. I was in totally shock. It was really very powerful blow. I was about to hit her back, luckily my friends warned me before never ever hit or have a fight with girls or guys in Colombia that can put you in real trouble. As I had no choice, I tried to calm her down by agreeing to pay whatever we agreed before. I did not know what to do. I left the money on the table. She sat there for five minutes, grabbed the money and left.
Here is her facebook profile. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004551796232.
She seems to be bipolar. Probably she had drugs or something before coming. I would avoid and wouldn't recommend.
Other bad experience is, never ever order Domino's pizza with a credit card using Rappi. My friend and I ordered pizza around 8 pm using Rappi app. Rappi says delivery is handled by Pizza store itself. There was no update on the progress. It says 'in progress' on app. We waited patiently almost two hours then decided to go to bed starving. Next day, I get a message from Domino's on my phone, pizza has been delivered. Checked at front desk if delivered there but not.
Domino's used to take cash, not anymore. I heard front desk, same thing happened to another customer. Store takes orders with your card and delivered or sold to someone. So, unless it is a 'cash' and order managed by Rappi, I would not use Dominos anymore.
During my recent trip, I was shocked to receive just 4000 COP from cambios in Unicentro mall whereas rate on Xe.com was around 4485. I had expected 4200 or so. Was told that rate was damn low because it was a Sunday. Hmmmmmm, whatever. Never exchange money on Sundays.
Next day, cambios at Exito and Unicentro offered 4100. Still quite low so I used davivenda ATM. Got about 152000 COP for $460 CAD plus bank tried to hit me with a $5 CAD charge later on. This was a bit better than what I would have received at unicentro. About $475 CAD so saved fifteen bucks or so.
However, what I am noticing is that while you get only 4100 or so COPs for a USD, the rate at cambios seems to be better for Canadian dollar (around 3200-3300).
Has anyone else noticed this?
Other bad experience is, never ever order Domino's pizza with a credit card using Rappi. My friend and I ordered pizza around 8 pm using Rappi app. Rappi says delivery is handled by Pizza store itself. There was no update on the progress. It says 'in progress' on app. We waited patiently almost two hours then decided to go to bed starving. Next day, I get a message from Domino's on my phone, pizza has been delivered. Checked at front desk if delivered there but not.
Domino's used to take cash, not anymore. I heard front desk, same thing happened to another customer. Store takes orders with your card and delivered or sold to someone. So, unless it is a 'cash' and order managed by Rappi, I would not use Dominos anymore.I always order direct from Domino's website, and pay cash. The only problem I have had with them is they said they couldn't find the address. Now I put in more specific directions in addition to the address.
Trying to reply to your post great report and intel!
Is conejitas and hilton grill and surrounding bars safe to visit around 9 or 10 pm to see the talent?I can tell you it is fine as I have been there often enough at those hours. But someone else may tell you it is dangerous because bad experience. My suggestion is to go earlier to learn the streets so you don't need map when you are there later at night.
I was in Medellin for ten days two weeks ago. It was my sixth trip this year. I had little bit bad experience before with different girls mainly from Facebook and people in general like in stores, hotels etc.
In my last trip, I had really very scary traumatic experience with a Chica from Facebook. She looks pretty in picture, referred by her friend, Isa, who upsold herself with below average performance, just too mechanical with no friendly attitude. However, she looked pretty with nice body with big and round back. However, I would not recommend. My friends were also very disappointed with her. Before leaving, she recommended her friend, Valentina Zapata and said she would contact me.
When Zapata initially contacted me, I just ignored her given her friend's performance and cold attitude, but she was persistent. So I finally scheduled a time afternoon at 2 pm. She shows up usually like any other Chica an hour late. We had initial formality and little chat in 5 minutes. Thought she was nice and pretty. Indeed, she was. We negotiated service and amount a day before. She agreed to all. After 5 minutes of chitchat, she jumped into action. In initial negotiation, she agreed to kissing and bbj. But now she refused. I showed her texts what she agreed for. But no use. She did a lame 2-minute BJ that I felt as if john was in a bucket mouth. Felt no contact to john and no tight deep suction whatsoever. Then, we got into session which did not even last for ten minutes. Within thirty-five minutes since she entered, she here goes I am tired, have to leave and my mom is waiting outside. I said I don't if your mom is waiting as we agreed to 90 minutes, so you have to stay. She refused and wanted to leave. I didn't even come..Valentina Zapata- I did met her before, but that was 5 years ago or so, on my first trip to MDE, at that time she was a very nice girl, and did not do what you described, she has a daughter, which she mentioned to me, my time with her was very good and without problems, wonder what happened to her over the years that made her become this.
When Zapata initially contacted me, I just ignored her given her friend's performance and cold attitude, but she was persistent. So I finally scheduled a time afternoon at 2 pm. She shows up usually like any other Chica an hour late. We had initial formality and little chat in 5 minutes. Thought she was nice and pretty. Indeed, she was. We negotiated service and amount a day before. She agreed to all. After 5 minutes of chitchat, she jumped into action. In initial negotiation, she agreed to kissing and bbj. But now she refused. I showed her texts what she agreed for. But no use. She did a lame 2-minute BJ that I felt as if john was in a bucket mouth. Felt no contact to john and no tight deep suction whatsoever. Then, we got into session which did not even last for ten minutes. Within thirty-five minutes since she entered, she here goes I am tired, have to leave and my mom is waiting outside. I said I don't if your mom is waiting as we agreed to 90 minutes, so you have to stay. She refused and wanted to leave. I didn't even come.
I told since you spent 35 minutes, so I pay only half of whatever we agreed. That's it!! It flipped her out. She started shouting and screaming very loud. I tried to calm her down, but she wouldn't back down. She threatened to call the police. I said OK, call the police. I had never seen such a rage before. She was totally different person as if she was possessed. She kept screaming very loud and suddenly grabbed my brand-new phone and about to smash it to the floor, I grabbed her hand to stop it. Then, least expected, she very powerfully hit me on my face with the phone. I was in totally shock. It was really very powerful blow. I was about to hit her back, luckily my friends warned me before never ever hit or have a fight with girls or guys in Colombia that can put you in real trouble..Unfortunately what you experienced goes with the territory.
I've been in some similar situations where a Chica will not do what was agreed to or spend the time agreed to, and flip out, but never had one get physically violent with me. Albeit some may not agree with this, but you did the right thing by just paying her the full amount as promised to get her out. The last thing you want is a third party getting involved.
My only suggestion would be when a Chica flips out, threatens to call the Police, etc. Do not pay them in the room. Instead, tell them you are going to pay them what you agreed to, have the money in your hand, and upon exiting the building hand them the money. The reason I suggest this is because the Chica may try to say you didn't pay her what you agreed to if a third party gets involved, or demand more in the room.
You always want to diffuse the situation, versus escalate it when you have a "psycho" chica your dealing with, and paying her the full amount to leave was the right call, albeit there may be some other board members that don't agree with this.
DonMedellin
09-18-22, 18:41
How were the talent?
Valentina has probably pulled this off before and it's become part of her MO. She has multiple FB profiles and has been blowing up my messenger wanting to meet. Usually it's a red flag when they reach out and are that adamant. Not that I'd meet her as she's so not my type but thanks for the heads up! I'll toy around with her on messenger when I'm bored.
Zapata initially contacted me, I just ignored her given her friend's performance and cold attitude, but she was persistent. So I finally scheduled a time afternoon at 2 pm. She shows up usually like any other Chica an hour late.
Here is her facebook profile. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004551796232..
DonMedellin
09-18-22, 20:48
Long shot, but are there Asian working girls in Medellíand?
Long shot, but are there Asian working girls in Medelland?Not with passports, not that I have met. Although there are plenty of Asian descent who would pass as Asian from one region or another.
MaddTraveler
09-18-22, 21:23
I was in Medellin for ten days two weeks ago. It was my sixth trip this year. I had little bit bad experience before with different girls mainly from Facebook and people in general like in stores, hotels etc.
In my last trip, I had really very scary traumatic experience with a Chica from Facebook. She looks pretty in picture, referred by her friend, Isa, who upsold herself with below average performance, just too mechanical with no friendly attitude. However, she looked pretty with nice body with big and round back. However, I would not recommend. My friends were also very disappointed with her. Before leaving, she recommended her friend, Valentina Zapata and said she would contact me.
When Zapata initially contacted me, I just ignored her given her friend's performance and cold attitude, but she was persistent. So I finally scheduled a time afternoon at 2 pm. She shows up usually like any other Chica an hour late. We had initial formality and little chat in 5 minutes. Thought she was nice and pretty. Indeed, she was. We negotiated service and amount a day before. She agreed to all. After 5 minutes of chitchat, she jumped into action..If you monger enough sadly no matter how careful we are this can happen. Unless with experience we stop listening to the little head and use some type of logic. Meaning the red flag was clear hombre, any girl, who first of all initiates contact and quickly to agree to anything is a red flag, also if appear aggressive and insistent. Also if you meet in person and she's very touchy, so quick to flirt and kiss you on the lips is also a red flag.
You did the right thing obviously by not hitting her back, but you being hit could've been prevented, next time just pay and take the $20 or $40 loss. This is part of why we negotiate and offer propina only when things goes well. Also since you have text messages, you would've been better off with the police involved. Although they normally side the chicas, but when you have proof you'd be ok and worse they'd make you pay the half.
MaddTraveler
09-18-22, 21:48
FYI there is a lower cost, less restrictive casa just next door to Energy. I don't believe it has a name and they no longer do line ups. The girls work off mileroticos and similar web sites, by appointment. How much less than Energy, almost half at 90 K / half four + any extra you can think of.I normally use Mileroticos and Photoprepago because there are lots and lots of beauties and great options on those, and many of those girls don't work anywhere else. This trip since I was showing my buddy around I didn't use any of those but will def check this apt out next time. Energy is now 160 k / hour and I went there twice in 8 days. At the time I went the girls were very pretty and was worth it. Lounge and rooms are a bit better than other casas.
Valentina has probably pulled this off before and it's become part of her MO. She has multiple FB profiles and has been blowing up my messenger wanting to meet. Usually it's a red flag when they reach out and are that adamant. Not that I'd meet her as she's so not my type but thanks for the heads up! I'll toy around with her on messenger when I'm bored.I don't know what happened to this chica but a couple of years ago she went from being kind of a sweetie during the first session to a cold fish in like 4 months. Very hardened very fast. That is with me but YMMV.
I can tell you it is fine as I have been there often enough at those hours. But someone else may tell you it is dangerous because bad experience. My suggestion is to go earlier to learn the streets so you don't need map when you are there later at night.Thanks for the reply! Are these places good compared to a fase ii in the night time?
Valentina has probably pulled this off before and it's become part of her MO. She has multiple FB profiles and has been blowing up my messenger wanting to meet. Usually it's a red flag when they reach out and are that adamant. Not that I'd meet her as she's so not my type but thanks for the heads up! I'll toy around with her on messenger when I'm bored.Thanks for sharing her profile but she's not very slim and sexy. I think she was sexy and slim more than 5 years ago. But now she looks little bit fat. She could be great with 10 Kg less.
And you say she's not nice girl? How much did you pay her?
Not a chica report, but I guess useful too.
Today I wanted to take some pesos, without having to pay a fee or an outrageous margin on the exchange rate from USD to COP.
The Davidienda cajero at east Poblado wanted to give me a 4073 pesos per 1 USD, and clearly showed a "the exchange margin is 7. 5%. That shit was not nice, so I cancel the transaction and went to the Tesoro mall to use Colpatria.
Once at Tesoro, I found immediately another Davidenda, so I wanted to give it another try. Damn, my debit card exchange rate was the same 4073 shit. -pay attention here- At this point I wanted to cancel, but instead of pressing the cancel key I instead (by mistake) selected *I do not accept the exchange rate*. With my surprise, the ATM started giving me money. I was so hungry because I thought I had lost 7. 5% of 1. 520,000 COP = 114 k but instead there was a good surprise. The Charles Schawab transaction was 345.09 USD and it corresponds to a rate of 4404 very close to the Google 4435.
I do not have an explanation, but, apparently, if you refuse the proposed exchange rate with a 7. 5% margin, then Davidienda gives up, and makes the correct job. I do not have a better explanation, Do you?
John Clayton
09-19-22, 01:32
Not a chica report, but I guess useful too.
...if you refuse the proposed exchange rate with a 7. 5% margin, then Davidienda gives up, and makes the correct job. I do not have a better explanation, Do you?If you refuse, as you did, the ATM will exhange at the Interbank Wholesale Rate, which fluctuates day by day. I think in countries like Colombia, where the peso is in decline, it is almost always better.
Nil Admirari
09-19-22, 01:33
Has anyone been to Energy Fantasies lately?
How were the talent?I stopped by the Spa (Spa Fantasias Energy, to be precise) one evening, close to closing time, in late August. From the lineup of about 15 chicas, I found two who were pretty and sexy enough to get my juices flowing,--good-lookers but not knock-out beauties. Overall, the quality was not much better than one would find in the better Centro casas (Zandalay and New Life), although the two chicas that I singled out had more of a European (as opposed to mestiza) look than one typically sees in El Centro.
I asked to interview my favorite of the two chicas, but I took a pass when she declined to offer DFK / BBBJ even for a generous propina. The second chica also refused to provide those extras for an up-charge. During my prior visits to Fantasias Energy over the past several years, with only two exceptions that I can recall, the hottest chicas have each insisted on everything covered--while I've never had DFK / BBBF turned down in the centro casas.
In sum, one can often find one or two chicas at Fantasias Energy who are hotter than any of the Zandalay or New Life ladies, but for a higher price and, more often than not, without the (for me) essential services.
You unwittingly followed the correct procedure to the letter. It is documented many times on this website. You must ALWAYS decline the conversion offer. Well done and I hope the rest of your visit is equally successful.
Not a chica report, but I guess useful too.
Today I wanted to take some pesos, without having to pay a fee or an outrageous margin on the exchange rate from USD to COP.
The Davidienda cajero at east Poblado wanted to give me a 4073 pesos per 1 USD, and clearly showed a "the exchange margin is 7. 5%. That shit was not nice, so I cancel the transaction and went to the Tesoro mall to use Colpatria.
Once at Tesoro, I found immediately another Davidenda, so I wanted to give it another try. Damn, my debit card exchange rate was the same 4073 shit. -pay attention here- At this point I wanted to cancel, but instead of pressing the cancel key I instead (by mistake) selected *I do not accept the exchange rate*. With my surprise, the ATM started giving me money. I was so hungry because I thought I had lost 7. 5% of 1. 520,000 COP = 114 k but instead there was a good surprise. The Charles Schawab transaction was 345.09 USD and it corresponds to a rate of 4404 very close to the Google 4435.
I do not have an explanation, but, apparently, if you refuse the proposed exchange rate with a 7. 5% margin, then Davidienda gives up, and makes the correct job. I do not have a better explanation, Do you?
She is in mileroticos: https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/sofia-hermosa-nina-de-tan-solo-18-anos-si-no-soy-no-pagas/23336253/.
1 h domicilio 150 k. I added a 69 sin condom for 30 k. Total 180 k, no taxi added and I forgot to tip. Clearly, she arrived 1 h later, but she was the girl. She has some more weight, but she looks a real low mileage 18.
She smells good, sweet, and submissive. I chose my pace and change all the positions I wanted, and she follows you docilely. At the end we had a shower together and then went to the roof swimming pool at Energy Living to see the view. Almost 2 h with me. I would say a good option for a lazy Sunday hotel session.
This is not completely fair to facebook. I don't doubt any bit of your report but I think the facebook factor is coincidental. In other words, this sort of thing happens with girls from any source. Facebook, streets of Centro, mileroticos, etc. The least likely venue for this sort of misadventure are the casas.
I was in Medellin for ten days two weeks ago. It was my sixth trip this year. I had little bit bad experience before with different girls mainly from Facebook and people in general like in stores, hotels etc.
In my last trip, I had really very scary traumatic experience with a Chica from Facebook. She looks pretty in picture, referred by her friend, Isa, who upsold herself with below average performance, just too mechanical with no friendly attitude. However, she looked pretty with nice body with big and round back. However, I would not recommend. My friends were also very disappointed with her. Before leaving, she recommended her friend, Valentina Zapata and said she would contact me.
When Zapata initially contacted me, I just ignored her given her friend's performance and cold attitude, but she was persistent. So I finally scheduled a time afternoon at 2 pm. She shows up usually like any other Chica an hour late. We had initial formality and little chat in 5 minutes. Thought she was nice and pretty. Indeed, she was. We negotiated service and amount a day before. She agreed to all. After 5 minutes of chitchat, she jumped into action. In initial negotiation, she agreed to kissing and bbj. But now she refused. I showed her texts what she agreed for. But no use. She did a lame 2-minute BJ that I felt as if john was in a bucket mouth. Felt no contact to john and no tight deep suction whatsoever. Then, we got into session which did not even last for ten minutes. Within thirty-five minutes since she entered, she here goes I am tired, have to leave and my mom is waiting outside. I said I don't if your mom is waiting as we agreed to 90 minutes, so you have to stay. She refused and wanted to leave. I didn't even come.
I told since you spent 35 minutes, so I pay only half of whatever we agreed. That's it!! It flipped her out. She started shouting and screaming very loud. I tried to calm her down, but she wouldn't back down. She threatened to call the police. I said OK, call the police. I had never seen such a rage before. She was totally different person as if she was possessed. She kept screaming very loud and suddenly grabbed my brand-new phone and about to smash it to the floor, I grabbed her hand to stop it. Then, least expected, she very powerfully hit me on my face with the phone. I was in totally shock. It was really very powerful blow. I was about to hit her back, luckily my friends warned me before never ever hit or have a fight with girls or guys in Colombia that can put you in real trouble. As I had no choice, I tried to calm her down by agreeing to pay whatever we agreed before. I did not know what to do. I left the money on the table. She sat there for five minutes, grabbed the money and left.
Here is her facebook profile. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004551796232.
She seems to be bipolar. Probably she had drugs or something before coming. I would avoid and wouldn't recommend.
Other bad experience is, never ever order Domino's pizza with a credit card using Rappi. My friend and I ordered pizza around 8 pm using Rappi app. Rappi says delivery is handled by Pizza store itself. There was no update on the progress. It says 'in progress' on app. We waited patiently almost two hours then decided to go to bed starving. Next day, I get a message from Domino's on my phone, pizza has been delivered. Checked at front desk if delivered there but not.
Domino's used to take cash, not anymore. I heard front desk, same thing happened to another customer. Store takes orders with your card and delivered or sold to someone. So, unless it is a 'cash' and order managed by Rappi, I would not use Dominos anymore.
TylerHerro
09-19-22, 01:54
Not a chica report, but I guess useful too.
Today I wanted to take some pesos, without having to pay a fee or an outrageous margin on the exchange rate from USD to COP.
The Davidienda cajero at east Poblado wanted to give me a 4073 pesos per 1 USD, and clearly showed a "the exchange margin is 7. 5%. That shit was not nice, so I cancel the transaction and went to the Tesoro mall to use Colpatria.
Once at Tesoro, I found immediately another Davidenda, so I wanted to give it another try. Damn, my debit card exchange rate was the same 4073 shit. -pay attention here- At this point I wanted to cancel, but instead of pressing the cancel key I instead (by mistake) selected *I do not accept the exchange rate*. With my surprise, the ATM started giving me money. I was so hungry because I thought I had lost 7. 5% of 1. 520,000 COP = 114 k but instead there was a good surprise. The Charles Schawab transaction was 345.09 USD and it corresponds to a rate of 4404 very close to the Google 4435.
I do not have an explanation, but, apparently, if you refuse the proposed exchange rate with a 7. 5% margin, then Davidienda gives up, and makes the correct job. I do not have a better explanation, Do you?You did what you were supposed to do, always decline the conversion rate and it'll use the worldwide wholesale rate. If I remember correctly, accept the ATM fee and then decline the conversion rate.
Santa Marta is safer than any other city I know in Colombia. The place is absolutely swarming with police. They are experiencing a real touist boom so there are police on almost every corner, trying to protect the golden goose.
First time was with my LT GF. Second time was for a 3-some I couldn't turn down (could have been anywhere). 3rd time was cheap flights and only 2 nights with a girl that was begging me to go. Whereas I spent maybe 3 years in Santa Marta, on and off. Am there now.Thanks for the info. Are there any private beaches in Santa Marta? Or nice beach clubs? Where you are not bothered by vendors and don't have to watch your belongins while you are swimming.
BoopetyBoopClick
09-19-22, 03:51
Nice report. How much was the SA girl? Did she give BBBJ? Did you hook up with any FB chicas? What happened with the scopamine?SA girl was basically the high end of the range there, which again I'm not so proud of. Yes received BBBJ from here and the majority of the 5-6 chicas on the trip, with the exception of the threesome with the centro SWs. Only 1 chica went for no condom during sex, it just wasn't discussed (also she was the only good morning sex).
No FB chicas, I guess it feels a little bit too personal for me to actually use FB in that capacity.
Re: scopamine- after everything closed in El Poblado I was chatting with a group of 3 chicas. They said there was a place still open, and took me to a party bus wagon that drives you to Seven Club. A young Colombian guy kinda merged in our group and we were all drinking together. After arriving to the club, things got incredibly blurry for about an hour, and then I looked at the Colombian guy and he was passed out and throwing up, whereas the girls were fine. So that's when I suspected something bad happened, and I was able to pull myself together sufficiently to call an Uber and get out of there (dropped off the passed out Colombiano in El Poblado too). Felt pretty crappy for the next 2 days, but feel like I managed to dodge something much worse. Google Reviews of the place report similar experiences. Maybe it was something else or a low dosage because I snapped out of it eventually. I guess just a warning for anyone that gets on that party bus after the bars close in El Poblado, be very careful with what you drink / ingest.
Anyways, I feel the need to get back on the horse, and I'm back to MDE this Friday. Anyone looking for a wingman? I'm trying to check out some more non-Poblado places this time!
FlowState985
09-19-22, 04:47
I do not have an explanation, but, apparently, if you refuse the proposed exchange rate with a 7. 5% margin, then Davidienda gives up, and makes the correct job. I do not have a better explanation, Do you?This is not new. It is always that way because the ATM bank wants to make money by charging you so always decline. It is the same thing here in Brazil where I currently am. I go to ATM to pull money out and they always ask if I want to go with their conversion or not, of course I declined and get what CS exchange rate is.
Also keep in mind, when paying for anything like food, groceries, etc, the cashier asks if you want peso / dollar, always go with or pay with the country's currency as in peso in Colombia, not dollar. Your credit card / bank will do the exchange rate close to current rate.
LoveItHere69
09-19-22, 05:22
I agree with you. I don't understand the hate for parque lleras. It's great for what it is a central pick up spot for girls with the added benefit of clubs / bars and restaurants surrounding the area. Yes the girls are quoting higher prices than centro. This board tends to skew older retirees with fixed incomes who prefer centro daytime action. I do not hate Parque Lleras. But I hate many of the foreigner guys that frequently go there. The ones that need constant attention "look at me look at me" syndrome. They overspend and then bring that to Centro and to other cities because most are 2 week millionaires. This screws up prices for guys that spend 6 months or more in Colombia and the locals. They flash cash making it rain like they are big dogs. Travel in groups a lot thus talking loudly so all their buddies and people 30 feet away can hear them. They video everyone and load it up on Twitter, FB, YouTube, and so on. One of these guys described above put a girl on a leash and walked around Parque Lleras last year and put it on YouTube. It was on all the news stations in Colombia. The mayor of Medellin was livid. Then the example below from just last week.
The Charles Schawab transaction was 345.09 USD and it corresponds to a rate of 4404 very close to the Google 4435.The weekend ATM rate is what the international exchange rate was Thursday. If you look at the Google exchange rate for Thursday (if you can), it should be right about 4404.
If I find a girl in Lleras park and don't want to go back to my Airbnb is there a go to motel to uber to that you recommend and is safe even when it gets dark out?
SankarShetty
09-19-22, 11:37
Brothers,
Among the second tier cities below, which one has a thriving street scene and casa scene. Planning on a side trip for a few days from Medellin.
Barranquilla.
Bucaramanga.
Pereira.
Cucuta.
Manizales.
Santa Marta.
Should I have not included Barranquilla since too big and should rather be compared to Cartagena and Cali than to the above cities?
Valentina has probably pulled this off before and it's become part of her MO. She has multiple FB profiles and has been blowing up my messenger wanting to meet. Usually it's a red flag when they reach out and are that adamant. Not that I'd meet her as she's so not my type but thanks for the heads up! I'll toy around with her on messenger when I'm bored.Yes, I noticed that there are few girls with multiple profiles using different names. She seems to be a part of the group who target people around and share information on where they can get more money and get away with their attitude. Isa Guiterrez showed couple of her friends' pictures including zapata. They all look pretty in pics.
This is not completely fair to facebook. I don't doubt any bit of your report but I think the facebook factor is coincidental. In other words, this sort of thing happens with girls from any source. Facebook, streets of Centro, mileroticos, etc. The least likely venue for this sort of misadventure are the casas.Of course, you are right! Not necessarily from Facebook. Heard horror stories of Tinder and Parque LLeras girls. My friend had similar experience from PL girls before. I am beginning to think the best bet is going to casas which are much safer. If you like the girl, you can always get her to hotel.
Unfortunately what you experienced goes with the territory.
I've been in some similar situations where a Chica will not do what was agreed to or spend the time agreed to, and flip out, but never had one get physically violent with me. Albeit some may not agree with this, but you did the right thing by just paying her the full amount as promised to get her out. The last thing you want is a third party getting involved.
My only suggestion would be when a Chica flips out, threatens to call the Police, etc. Do not pay them in the room. Instead, tell them you are going to pay them what you agreed to, have the money in your hand, and upon exiting the building hand them the money. The reason I suggest this is because the Chica may try to say you didn't pay her what you agreed to if a third party gets involved, or demand more in the room.
You always want to diffuse the situation, versus escalate it when you have a "psycho" chica your dealing with, and paying her the full amount to leave was the right call, albeit there may be some other board members that don't agree with this.
Thanks for the tip. I am sure it can happen again. The way she hit that hard, the pain lasted for three days. I thought I had some internal head injury. Sooner reached back to US on fourth day, checked with my doctor. Luckily, no serious damage except little clotted blood in left ear.
On safe side, I explained to the situation in reception and other office personnel. They asked me if I wanted to call the police but since I already knew what would happen just refused. They would blacklist her visiting the hotel which I don't believe as they see these very often to keep track of girls.
I took the copy of her cedula from the hotel for safe side if anything happens involving her gangs later on ...
I think you were quite right to pay the fee and cut your losses. The girl knows she has much less to lose than any of us. She can continue escalating and making a nuisance of herself.
Thanks for the tip. I am sure it can happen again. The way she hit that hard, the pain lasted for three days. I thought I had some internal head injury. Sooner reached back to US on fourth day, checked with my doctor. Luckily, no serious damage except little clotted blood in left ear.
On safe side, I explained to the situation in reception and other office personnel. They asked me if I wanted to call the police but since I already knew what would happen just refused. They would blacklist her visiting the hotel which I don't believe as they see these very often to keep track of girls.
I took the copy of her cedula from the hotel for safe side if anything happens involving her gangs later on ...
Dcrist0527
09-19-22, 15:09
I hope I'm not repeating information others have reported. (When I'm boots on the ground, I don't keep up with ISG as well.)
I just returned from my latest MDE trip. I stayed at the mansion (M1). People seem to have a strong opinion on the value, with fair arguments on either side. I am a fan myself. This past week, there was a good group of guys that made the down time enjoyable. The problem was that there were more guys than girls. What makes the mansion so nice to me is the ability to sit and chat with the girls at the pool. There were days that there were literally two girls there all day. I'm not sure how long this will go on. In talking with some girls I trust, the hotel has clamped down on who can enter. Essentially, a girl needs a date to get in. Honestly, that sucked! The more I think about it, the more angry I get. No one goes there for the luxury accommodations. So I don't see a bright future for them if they keep this up.
I'll call this a bit of educated speculation. But apparently, several days back, a disgruntled girl called the police and reported some illegal activity in the hotel. That brought the police in, caused some inspections and some big headaches for the hotel. So maybe a crackdown is part of the process. But it sucked. The bar downstairs was slightly less impacted but there were significantly less people. I'll also mention that most of the rooms at M1 were completely vacant last week. So take that for what it's worth. But it was very disappointing.
Are there any private beaches in Santa Marta? Or nice beach clubs? .I don't know of any private beaches there. Not sure if that would be legal. And no beach clubs. Most of the life is on yhe 2 ealking streets that run off pqe de LOS novios. There are quite a lot of clubs, and at least 5 chica clubs.
I do not hate Parque Lleras. But I hate many of the foreigner guys that frequently go there. The ones that need constant attention "look at me look at me" syndrome. They overspend and then bring that to Centro and to other cities because most are 2 week millionaires. This screws up prices for guys that spend 6 months or more in Colombia and the locals. They flash cash making it rain like they are big dogs.I think they also contribute to the aggressive behavior of the chicas being talked about on here. The worst encounter I've had with a FB chica was one I had seen numerous times over a number of years. When I paid her, she demanded more. I had increased her payment over the years. She was a small, slender chica, so I wasn't concerned with physical harm to me; but she could have gone on a destructive attack inside the apartment. I managed to push her out of the apartment without making any marks on her.
Of course, you are right! Not necessarily from Facebook. Heard horror stories of Tinder and Parque LLeras girls. My friend had similar experience from PL girls before. I am beginning to think the best bet is going to casas which are much safer. If you like the girl, you can always get her to hotel.I would agree with this. Facebook girls are no different from girls from other places. It is hit and miss and it is up to you to do the proper screening. As with girls from Tinder or from the street, you can meet with the girl first outside of your hotel room to assess the situation and make your determination whether she is the type of girl you trust in your room. If something is off, just pay her for her transport and move on. When in doubt, don't bring her to your room.
When you have a bad situation and you would like her to leave, you don't want a mess. You need to work out an agreement that is acceptable to both parties, that may mean you give a little more than you think you should to make the problem go away. It may seem a bit more than she deserves but I bet the guys involved in the Secret Service agency fiasco probably wished on hindsight that they just gave $100 to the girls instead of throwing them out the door. Bad girls can cause trouble for you and for foreigners on a holiday, that is not something you want.
On my first trip to Medellin, I did not run into any problem girls on Facebook. All were good to great and everyone was nice and friendly to me. But I did a fair amount of chatting and I was trying to be careful in selecting the girls that I wanted to see. This does not mean that I won't run into bad girls but it can minimize bad encounters. There were definitely girls that I chatted with that seemed suspicious to me in some way and I did not meet with me.
Nil Admirari
09-19-22, 17:55
Thanks for the info. Are there any private beaches in Santa Marta? Or nice beach clubs? Where you are not bothered by vendors and don't have to watch your belongings while you are swimming.MaimiBoy, from your postings I'm not sure the following would fit your vacationing style, but it is an attractive option to consider for anyone looking for scenic, relatively secluded beaches in Colombia.
In my experience, Parque Nacional Natural Tayrona (about half an hour drive east of Santa Marta) ranks high among the country's true gems--a succession of palm-shaded sandy coves and coastal lagoons extending for a number of miles, striking rock formations above a number of the beaches, and then lush rainforest extending into the foothills of the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta. The park also contains the Pueblito ruins--"an archaeological site accessed via forest trails, with terraces and structures built by the Tayrona civilization". Food is available at the more popular of the beach coves.
Although perhaps a negative for some, for me a uniquely positive feature of the park is the absence of any paved roads and of any cars. One accesses the beaches from the main highway either via a shuttle bus on a dirt road or by hiking a couple of hours through the rain forrest. Once on the coast, one finds trails linking the succession of beaches --with renting horses as a transportation option within the park. Be prepared for additional hiking from one beach to another.
We stayed in Santa Marta but, if I return, I would opt for one of the lodging options in the Park itself or near the entrance, which I believe range from a luxury eco-hotel, to cabins, to rental hammocks on the beach.
Here are two links to more information and some photos:
https://www.roadaffair.com/visiting-tayrona-national-park-guide/#text=With%20 the%20 exception%20 of%20 the, to%20 reach%20 Tayrona's%20 beautiful%20 beaches.
https://www.tomplanmytrip.com/tayrona-colombia-a-massive-and-unforgettable-park-all-secrets-revealed/#text=Tayrona's%20 entrances%3 A%20 There%20 are%20 two, COP%20 (including%20 the%20 insurance).
DonMedellin
09-19-22, 19:23
Brothers,
Barranquilla: hottest women in Colombia I met were from Brq.
Bucaramanga: nice place to live if you speak good Spanish and could pass as a Colombian.
Pereira: Hot women, lots of sugar babies.
Cucuta: large street scene, cheap but low quality.
Manizales: nice place to live, waiting to be discovered by more gringos.
Santa Marta: ok street scene, cheaper than MDE but low quality.
Airport did not ask for covid information or the imagration but I think they would sporadically so make sure you tick all the boxes. They asked for my address where I was staying in Medellin.
When exiting the arrivals on ground floor I went up to 1st floor. Departures / domestics and got a sim card for my phone. Lots of ATM's there but also lots of ques.
Revolut. Tips.
You should upgrade your plan to the premium as it works out better for card transactions and taking money out the ATMS. Cash is used allot here especially for transactions that relate to this board.
Best bank to take money from so far is Caja Social. They only allow 300,000 in one withdrawal but you can instantly put the card back in and request more. They charge approx 50 cents.
1st experience report.
Had an ok meet with Tamara who was on the website.
Mileroticos Colombia: Erotic Ads (mileroticos.com).
She wears pink underwear on her picture and dark hair to her neck.
It was an early day session so neither of us were drunk so I do not know if that added to the situation but it was quite mechanical. She is ideally located in La 70 and was easy to find after she gave directions.
Face was a 7.5 and body to match.
After checking I was clean she gave a BBBJ.
Price what she quoted was correct and good value.
No extra GF services so this would be a great girl to meet after a few drinks in the evening.
Overall it was ok but can't fault value of money 110,000.
I find mileroticos website girls much cheaper than prepagos, so far anyway. That might change as my stay continues.
Day 2.
It was a Saturday night and ended up going to a casino in La 70 and then off to Luna lunera. It has changed a bit (I think) since I was there 3 years ago. Layout anyway. The door staff seem professional and staff that get you seated are all good.
Very poor amount of girls and very poor quality girls. This was the 3rd best out of the 3 strip clubs if I remember after Isla and Fase Dos. Unfortunately it has got really bad, perhaps it was that night but Sat night at 11 pm hard to imagine it picking up more.
I was seated at a normal table booth with no bottle needed. Got a beer for 25,000 (Corona and domestics). No girls were dancing in a conventional strip club senses which was to the annoyance of two guys who came in 10 minutes after me. They were seated at a bottle table and after some negotiations were allowed to order water only. I believe they were Americans.
They got a couple of girls dancing on them and on a pole and were tipping 2 k's and seemed to have a little fun.
The one girl who caught my attention was a 23 year old slim girl. After a couple of lady drinks with her also 25 k each and me asking some ground work questions with regard to prices etc We went up stairs to one of the rooms.
No BBBJ only CBJ but sex was good she was eager to please and overall a good session. I opted for 30 minutes at 210 k and one hour was 300 k+ can't remember the exact amount.
Overall a 7/10.
I won't be back to that club in a hurry because of the lack of other girls to choose from. Literally she was the only one worth paying for in my eyes.
What I have noticed is that the tinder scene has picked up and 18 to 21 years olds are all swiping right and asking for FWB. The quality of these girls are top notch and I have managed to get to know a couple of great girls which is working out for me. One who is bisexual also wants to bring her friends next time. Prices are high compared to the websites but the experience are all better and full GFE and not rushed.
Prices range from 250 to 350 k.
Also happy for some tips where to go or if you want me to check out and rate some other places you recommend.
Regards.
Nong Khai.
I do not hate Parque Lleras. But I hate many of the foreigner guys that frequently go there. The ones that need constant attention "look at me look at me" syndrome. They overspend and then bring that to Centro and to other cities because most are 2 week millionaires. This screws up prices for guys that spend 6 months or more in Colombia and the locals. They flash cash making it rain like they are big dogs. Travel in groups a lot thus talking loudly so all their buddies and people 30 feet away can hear them. They video everyone and load it up on Twitter, FB, YouTube, and so on. One of these guys described above put a girl on a leash and walked around Parque Lleras last year and put it on YouTube. It was on all the news stations in Colombia. The mayor of Medellin was livid. Then the example below from just last week.Which is why I stay far away from Parque Lleras and El Poblado in general.
I don't think the weekend warriors drive the market beyond Parque Lleras. They drive the market in Parque Lleras because they are the market in Parque Lleras. I've been to Centro from time to time. I don't notice much movement in market rates. Whether or not the quantity and quality of providers is different than it was once is debatable but there is no objective evidence of costs going up because of weekend warriors or any other reason.
Which is why I stay far away from Parque Lleras and El Poblado in general.
Nice report, thank you for taking the time to write it. You asked for tips. I have one. Be very careful with girls who want to bring a friend to meet you because it can increase you chances of an undesireable outcome if you aren't on the look out for mischief.
Airport did not ask for covid information or the imagration but I think they would sporadically so make sure you tick all the boxes. They asked for my address where I was staying in Medellin.
When exiting the arrivals on ground floor I went up to 1st floor. Departures / domestics and got a sim card for my phone. Lots of ATM's there but also lots of ques.
Revolut. Tips.
You should upgrade your plan to the premium as it works out better for card transactions and taking money out the ATMS. Cash is used allot here especially for transactions that relate to this board.
Best bank to take money from so far is Caja Social. They only allow 300,000 in one withdrawal but you can instantly put the card back in and request more. They charge approx 50 cents.
1st experience report.
Had an ok meet with Tamara who was on the website.
Mileroticos Colombia: Erotic Ads (mileroticos.com).
She wears pink underwear on her picture and dark hair to her neck.
It was an early day session so neither of us were drunk so I do not know if that added to the situation but it was quite mechanical. She is ideally located in La 70 and was easy to find after she gave directions.
Face was a 7.5 and body to match.
After checking I was clean she gave a BBBJ.
Price what she quoted was correct and good value.
No extra GF services so this would be a great girl to meet after a few drinks in the evening.
Overall it was ok but can't fault value of money 110,000.
I find mileroticos website girls much cheaper than prepagos, so far anyway. That might change as my stay continues.
Day 2.
It was a Saturday night and ended up going to a casino in La 70 and then off to Luna lunera. It has changed a bit (I think) since I was there 3 years ago. Layout anyway. The door staff seem professional and staff that get you seated are all good.
Very poor amount of girls and very poor quality girls. This was the 3rd best out of the 3 strip clubs if I remember after Isla and Fase Dos. Unfortunately it has got really bad, perhaps it was that night but Sat night at 11 pm hard to imagine it picking up more.
I was seated at a normal table booth with no bottle needed. Got a beer for 25,000 (Corona and domestics). No girls were dancing in a conventional strip club senses which was to the annoyance of two guys who came in 10 minutes after me. They were seated at a bottle table and after some negotiations were allowed to order water only. I believe they were Americans.
They got a couple of girls dancing on them and on a pole and were tipping 2 k's and seemed to have a little fun.
The one girl who caught my attention was a 23 year old slim girl. After a couple of lady drinks with her also 25 k each and me asking some ground work questions with regard to prices etc We went up stairs to one of the rooms.
No BBBJ only CBJ but sex was good she was eager to please and overall a good session. I opted for 30 minutes at 210 k and one hour was 300 k+ can't remember the exact amount.
Overall a 7/10.
I won't be back to that club in a hurry because of the lack of other girls to choose from. Literally she was the only one worth paying for in my eyes.
What I have noticed is that the tinder scene has picked up and 18 to 21 years olds are all swiping right and asking for FWB. The quality of these girls are top notch and I have managed to get to know a couple of great girls which is working out for me. One who is bisexual also wants to bring her friends next time. Prices are high compared to the websites but the experience are all better and full GFE and not rushed.
Prices range from 250 to 350 k.
Also happy for some tips where to go or if you want me to check out and rate some other places you recommend.
Regards.
Nong Khai.
I do not hate Parque Lleras. But I hate many of the foreigner guys that frequently go there. The ones that need constant attention "look at me look at me" syndrome. They overspend and then bring that to Centro and to other cities because most are 2 week millionaires. This screws up prices for guys that spend 6 months or more in Colombia and the locals. They flash cash making it rain like they are big dogs. Travel in groups a lot thus talking loudly so all their buddies and people 30 feet away can hear them. They video everyone and load it up on Twitter, FB, YouTube, and so on. One of these guys described above put a girl on a leash and walked around Parque Lleras last year and put it on YouTube. It was on all the news stations in Colombia. The mayor of Medellin was livid. Then the example below from just last week.The guy walking around the girl on the chain was the "welp, here comes the downhill part of this location's hey day" moment for me.
I hope I'm not repeating information others have reported. (When I'm boots on the ground, I don't keep up with ISG as well.)
I just returned from my latest MDE trip. I stayed at the mansion (M1). People seem to have a strong opinion on the value, with fair arguments on either side. I am a fan myself. This past week, there was a good group of guys that made the down time enjoyable. The problem was that there were more guys than girls. What makes the mansion so nice to me is the ability to sit and chat with the girls at the pool. There were days that there were literally two girls there all day. I'm not sure how long this will go on. In talking with some girls I trust, the hotel has clamped down on who can enter. Essentially, a girl needs a date to get in. Honestly, that sucked! The more I think about it, the more angry I get. No one goes there for the luxury accommodations. So I don't see a bright future for them if they keep this up.
I'll call this a bit of educated speculation. But apparently, several days back, a disgruntled girl called the police and reported some illegal activity in the hotel. That brought the police in, caused some inspections and some big headaches for the hotel. So maybe a crackdown is part of the process. But it sucked. The bar downstairs was slightly less impacted but there were significantly less people. I'll also mention that most of the rooms at M1 were completely vacant last week. So take that for what it's worth. But it was very disappointing.I've found that outside of party weekends you are paying a serious premium for the opportunity to meet a FEW young ladies in comfort. Still great for a first timer to Colombia who is alone and speaks no Spanish.
I think you were extremely lucky. It seems like you learned from the experience. I hope others do as well. The lesson I learned some time ago is it works out better for me if I do what I need to do during waking hours and rest overnight to fight another day.
SA girl was basically the high end of the range there, which again I'm not so proud of. Yes received BBBJ from here and the majority of the 5-6 chicas on the trip, with the exception of the threesome with the centro SWs. Only 1 chica went for no condom during sex, it just wasn't discussed (also she was the only good morning sex).
No FB chicas, I guess it feels a little bit too personal for me to actually use FB in that capacity.
Re: scopamine- after everything closed in El Poblado I was chatting with a group of 3 chicas. They said there was a place still open, and took me to a party bus wagon that drives you to Seven Club. A young Colombian guy kinda merged in our group and we were all drinking together. After arriving to the club, things got incredibly blurry for about an hour, and then I looked at the Colombian guy and he was passed out and throwing up, whereas the girls were fine. So that's when I suspected something bad happened, and I was able to pull myself together sufficiently to call an Uber and get out of there (dropped off the passed out Colombiano in El Poblado too). Felt pretty crappy for the next 2 days, but feel like I managed to dodge something much worse. Google Reviews of the place report similar experiences. Maybe it was something else or a low dosage because I snapped out of it eventually. I guess just a warning for anyone that gets on that party bus after the bars close in El Poblado, be very careful with what you drink / ingest.
Anyways, I feel the need to get back on the horse, and I'm back to MDE this Friday. Anyone looking for a wingman? I'm trying to check out some more non-Poblado places this time!
The girl on a leash incident happened in Provenza.
The guy walking around the girl on the chain was the "welp, here comes the downhill part of this location's hey day" moment for me.
LoveItHere69
09-19-22, 22:54
MDE Trip Report Sept 3-12:
Lots of schooling and lots of tutoring. As you can imagine first time is always overwhelming, even on the ride back home in the plane dude was talking aloud about.
His puta adventures w passengers. - was so embarrassing to the point I pretended I didn't know him LOL.
He was taking pictures w putas from the casas and posting and sending to his friends, talking about that shit everywhere. Fool's in his 30's and I had to check in that.
Behavior quick by showing him articles about Cuba-Dave who's banned from DR and CR incl prison time, and Colombia Jake who got sentenced till he took his life in Prison.
Here all for promoting prostitution and sex tourism in social media and online. Had to tell that fool it's not something you want to promote.
Then I remember why I never bring younger friends to this shit even when they beg, Dudes act like they never get laid or seen pussy. Seriously. At llera I'm not sure.
If it was alcohol but mofo was near insane. Kinna like you can tell if and when he finally goes somewhere alone he'll likely get drugged or robbed. When it happens no one can blame me LOL.
Too many Loud mouths and Weekend Warriors or wannbes at Llera like most are reporting.MaddTraveler you should not be shy but scared. Perfect example of "Mommy Mommy Mommy look at me" Syndrome. "Please give me attention!" Blabbing stuff to complete strangers. That could have been a USA Marshall on a USA Airline flight. On a foreign owned carrier he could have been recorded by a feminist Karen who would inform the stewardess who would inform the authorities before landing that he was practicing the wrong type of tourism. I just bet he had many party pictures with you (MaddTraveler) in them, thus dragging you down with him.
Wow. Ostersnot just popped into memory from some strange reason.
At first, I was under the impression that Immigration was not checking the MIG form or covid status but that is actually not the case. What is actually happening is that they are inputting your passport number and pulling up the MIG form which is on the computer and checking the information. I peeked at the monitor and I could see of the info.
MaddTraveler
09-20-22, 03:37
MaddTraveler you should not be shy but scared. Perfect example of "Mommy Mommy Mommy look at me" Syndrome. "Please give me attention!" Blabbing stuff to complete strangers. That could have been a USA Marshall on a USA Airline flight. On a foreign owned carrier he could have been recorded by a feminist Karen who would inform the stewardess who would inform the authorities before landing that he was practicing the wrong type of tourism. I just bet he had many party pictures with you (MaddTraveler) in them, thus dragging you down with him.
Wow. Ostersnot just popped into memory from some strange reason.I agree 100%. This is someone I used to hang w back home and in late 30's so the behavior is a total surprise. The only wing-men I normally travel with are dudes I've met while on trips and we'd end up making plans to meet on same spot or even here on this board. So this won't happen again.
But he did delete some of those pics from his phone. There are tons of stories where guys got in trouble in US airports due to phone contents that are deemed illegal. In fact, just so some of yall know there are undercover cops working on Seeking w fake women profiles incl local Colombian police. Not going to get into details how I know, so I always advise to never, never negotiate sex in exchange for money or specific ppm arrangement while on US soil on whatsapp / messenger; secondly, if she looks too young she may later reveal being underage and of course it is a set up. Those are things I also had to educate heavily on since buddy was going hard after the 16-17 year old looking ones.
Even in Llera there are 17 year old girls working there, and likely some of them maybe w law enforcement. Yes I ask them for ages and they do say 17. FYI legal consent age in Colombia is 14, and many get in trouble for it bc they assume it's the same for working girls LOL. Consent age for working girl is 18, so if you're paying she better be 18. It is something some of the bar owners are working on to get them banned from the park.
I've been in the game for a while, and not only I can sniff out those potential troubles, I also don't seek them. But man it is a lot of heavy work to try an educate someone who has no common sense or self control.
WankingDead
09-20-22, 06:20
I hope I'm not repeating information others have reported. (When I'm boots on the ground, I don't keep up with ISG as well.)
I just returned from my latest MDE trip. I stayed at the mansion (M1). People seem to have a strong opinion on the value, with fair arguments on either side. I am a fan myself. This past week, there was a good group of guys that made the down time enjoyable. The problem was that there were more guys than girls. What makes the mansion so nice to me is the ability to sit and chat with the girls at the pool. There were days that there were literally two girls there all day. I'm not sure how long this will go on. In talking with some girls I trust, the hotel has clamped down on who can enter. Essentially, a girl needs a date to get in. Honestly, that sucked! The more I think about it, the more angry I get. No one goes there for the luxury accommodations. So I don't see a bright future for them if they keep this up.
I'll call this a bit of educated speculation. But apparently, several days back, a disgruntled girl called the police and reported some illegal activity in the hotel. That brought the police in, caused some inspections and some big headaches for the hotel. So maybe a crackdown is part of the process. But it sucked. The bar downstairs was slightly less impacted but there were significantly less people. I'll also mention that most of the rooms at M1 were completely vacant last week. So take that for what it's worth. But it was very disappointing.I was there when the inspection happened, it took the whole day and no girls were allowed that day till late in the day, luckily it was my penultimate day but my chica told me no girls are allowed in without a date for the next 15 days.
I found the cost to be quite high, specially in laureless area. The German pharmacy on cr 70 was the most expensive asking 13 K for one 100 MG tablet! Ouch. Others quoted 12 K for one.
Centro was better, most places did not have 100 MG but a few that had offered it 2 for 12. The best price was around 46 and 52 which offered 2 100 mgs tablets for 8 K, still double the rate I could get it for in India or Thailand.
Does anyone know any cheap place to buy it from in centro or laureles? And what brand is the best?
I know roach motels are cheap so wondering if they are air conditioned? Are there any quickie hotels in that area that have AC?
SankarShetty
09-20-22, 12:58
I am going back to Medellin this week. I just bought a new phone in US, slipped in my claro SIM, transferred all my data including whatsapp. I am unable to get the verification code for whatsapp here in US for the claro number. My regular recharged 10 mil pesos yesterday but that looks like it was data only recharge and no SMS. Is there an amount of recharge that can give messages and calls so I can get whatsapp verified here while on roaming. I think claro connects via Verizon here.
I don't think the weekend warriors drive the market beyond Parque Lleras. They drive the market in Parque Lleras because they are the market in Parque Lleras. I've been to Centro from time to time. I don't notice much movement in market rates. Whether or not the quantity and quality of providers is different than it was once is debatable but there is no objective evidence of costs going up because of weekend warriors or any other reason.I don't agree with this, or perhaps I'm just misunderstanding what your saying, but the "weekend warriors" have done the same in Centro as some of the SW's there deal totally different with the majority of the foreigners they encounter, "meaning higher prices."
Yes I ask them for ages and they do say 17. FYI legal consent age in Colombia is 14, and many get in trouble for it bc they assume it's the same for working girls LOL. Consent age for working girl is 18, so if you're paying she better be 18.I think we all know this, but to be clear, I understand US and Canadian citizens are governed by the laws of our countries even when overseas. So EVEN IF no money exchanges hands you can still be prosecuted if the girl is under 18.
I know roach motels are cheap so wondering if they are air conditioned? Are there any quickie hotels in that area that have AC?Good question, you got me stumped, I'm not aware of any.
I think we all know this, but to be clear, I understand US and Canadian citizens are governed by the laws of our countries even when overseas. So EVEN IF no money exchanges hands you can still be prosecuted if the girl is under 18.Yep. The legal term is 'exterritoriality.'
JohnnyWalker55
09-20-22, 16:53
I do not hate Parque Lleras. But I hate many of the foreigner guys that frequently go there. The ones that need constant attention "look at me look at me" syndrome. They overspend and then bring that to Centro and to other cities because most are 2 week millionaires. Yep, I avoid Lleras / Poblado at all costs because of second hand embarrassment from weekend warriors who "ball out".
There's a large influx of mid thirties early 40's guys who don't speak a lick of Spanish, backwards hats, full tatted sleeves, gold plated watch, etc. And are the opposite of discreet when it comes to mongering.
They get drunk and can't keep it together, expect to get laid just because of their passport, talk to the waiters in English as if they understand, I've seen it too many times.
IMO this is also the stereotype that working girls, taxi drivers, and locals have of gringos, much to my dismay.
Even though paisas are extremely kind, I'd say they resent the aforementioned weekend warrior types, treating the city like an amusement park.
Hunglow1625
09-20-22, 17:51
You said there were more guys then girls at M1 but then you said all the rooms were vacant? Its been over a year since I stayed there but have been staying there since 2006. Last time I was there it was very busy with the ladies.
I usually stay at M1 for just a night or 2 then get an Airbnb. If its that slow I may not stay on my next trip. Its a great location for sure. Pretty high rates if your getting a nice room there w / Jacuzzi.
My issue now is trying to find decent flights anymore! They all suck!
I hope I'm not repeating information others have reported. (When I'm boots on the ground, I don't keep up with ISG as well.)
I just returned from my latest MDE trip. I stayed at the mansion (M1). People seem to have a strong opinion on the value, with fair arguments on either side. I am a fan myself. This past week, there was a good group of guys that made the down time enjoyable. The problem was that there were more guys than girls. What makes the mansion so nice to me is the ability to sit and chat with the girls at the pool. There were days that there were literally two girls there all day. I'm not sure how long this will go on. In talking with some girls I trust, the hotel has clamped down on who can enter. Essentially, a girl needs a date to get in. Honestly, that sucked! The more I think about it, the more angry I get. No one goes there for the luxury accommodations. So I don't see a bright future for them if they keep this up..
Airport did not ask for covid information or the imagration but I think they would sporadically so make sure you tick all the boxes. They asked for my address where I was staying in Medellin.
When exiting the arrivals on ground floor I went up to 1st floor. Departures / domestics and got a sim card for my phone. Lots of ATM's there but also lots of ques.
Revolut. Tips.
Nong Khai.They did not bother to check MASK in my previous trips if I remember correctly but in my last trip, they insisted on having mask on. So please make sure you have couple of masks ready, you can help others out, before the immigration when you arrive. In fact, you need one before departure too at the immigration.
They kept no-maskers in the line waiting, not sure what happened to them. Luckily, fellow traveler loaned me one.
WankingDead
09-20-22, 18:26
I know roach motels are cheap so wondering if they are air conditioned? Are there any quickie hotels in that area that have AC?No but most have fans.
Dcrist0527
09-20-22, 19:11
I've found that outside of party weekends you are paying a serious premium for the opportunity to meet a FEW young ladies in comfort. Still great for a first timer to Colombia who is alone and speaks no Spanish.I agree, first timers and English only should really value that place. I am neither. It just fits my style. I'm not a high quantity guy. More often than not I max out at 2 dates per day. I also put an emphasis on service over finding a 10. And perhaps the most attractive feature to me is the ability to sit and talk with a girl. I know many don't agree with my style. But getting to know the girl a bit leads to a vastly better session in my experience. At the mansion, you could sit at the pool and flirt with a girl without spending a dime. That "interview" helps me identify the ones that will work out better in the room. At least that's my experience. But as I said, it's not for everyone.
I have been living in Santa Marta for a year now and always feel safe but I also don't put myself in situations that could be dangerous.
The area around carrera 3 and Calle 17-18 is where all the night action is lots of bars restaurants really packed on the weekends is pretty safe just don't be stupid and you'll be fine.
My only concern is that Santa Marta is not safe (according to the local girl that I know). Not sure if it has always been like that or just got worse recently.
Why did you keep coming back to San Andres though?
Change the WhatsApp phone number to one that can receive text messages.
I am going back to Medellin this week. I just bought a new phone in US, slipped in my claro SIM, transferred all my data including whatsapp. I am unable to get the verification code for whatsapp here in US for the claro number. My regular recharged 10 mil pesos yesterday but that looks like it was data only recharge and no SMS. Is there an amount of recharge that can give messages and calls so I can get whatsapp verified here while on roaming. I think claro connects via Verizon here.
If you guys enjoy stating at that place you should stop posting about this. You will discourage prospective customers to the point of putting the place out of business.
I was there when the inspection happened, it took the whole day and no girls were allowed that day till late in the day, luckily it was my penultimate day but my chica told me no girls are allowed in without a date for the next 15 days.
This is really a disappointing situation. I hope it works out for everyone involved (FYI "everyone" = all of us).
MaddTraveler you should not be shy but scared. Perfect example of "Mommy Mommy Mommy look at me" Syndrome. "Please give me attention!" Blabbing stuff to complete strangers. That could have been a USA Marshall on a USA Airline flight. On a foreign owned carrier he could have been recorded by a feminist Karen who would inform the stewardess who would inform the authorities before landing that he was practicing the wrong type of tourism. I just bet he had many party pictures with you (MaddTraveler) in them, thus dragging you down with him.
Wow. Ostersnot just popped into memory from some strange reason.
SankarShetty
09-21-22, 00:23
Change the WhatsApp phone number to one that can receive text messages.The whole point is to try to keep the same number.
AmorPorFavor
09-21-22, 00:32
This is really a disappointing situation. I hope it works out for everyone involved (FYI "everyone" = all of us).Isn't prostitution legal in Columbia so long as the girl is 18? Isn't just the pimping, making money off of someone else prostituting, that is illegal?
Yep, I avoid Lleras / Poblado at all costs because of second hand embarrassment from weekend warriors who "ball out".
There's a large influx of mid thirties early 40's guys who don't speak a lick of Spanish, backwards hats, full tatted sleeves, gold plated watch, etc. And are the opposite of discreet when it comes to mongering.
They get drunk and can't keep it together, expect to get laid just because of their passport, talk to the waiters in English as if they understand, I've seen it too many times.
IMO this is also the stereotype that working girls, taxi drivers, and locals have of gringos, much to my dismay.
Even though paisas are extremely kind, I'd say they resent the aforementioned weekend warrior types, treating the city like an amusement park.So true and depressing, it was getting bad, or let's say "worse" incrementally prior to the Pandemic, and after about eight months of the Pandemic Colombia opened up, and with the avalanche of new mongers, things have worsened logarithmically, along with all the younger mongers showing up.
So many places have changed over the years. Tijuana used to be the bomb twenty years ago, yet no longer.
I guess I should count my blessings as I have gotten to experience Medellin going back 15 years.
things have worsened logarithmicallyI think you mean exponentially. Logarithmic increases, the increase is at a decreasing rate, and that does not sound like what you are describing.
https://jamesclear.com/growth-curves
Note that they use language acquisition as an example of logarithmic growth, but I think that process has multiple inflection points.
Last time I bought generic sildenafil (same as Viagra), price was 1400 pesos for 2 x 50 MG tablets of La Santé brand. This is at Drogas Calidad, CL 54 # 47-29, across street and up a bit from Parque Bolivar. Shop early because there's usually a line. The store also delivers free anywhere in the city. If I call an order in at 7, a motorcycle guy usually delivers to Belen around 11, which is when I pay cash. When I first came to Medellin, I shopped around and never found another drugstore with cheaper prices.
https://www.facebook.com/karo.rojas.771
I forgot whether I added her or she added me, but anyways, I wasn't planning to see her since she wasn't that good looking, but she had nice tits so I took a chance. She comes by and acts all nervous and doesn't talk much. She starts taking off her clothes and grabbing my dick, but as I normally do I ask her for her cedula and she says she doesn't have one and she's a minor (actually she looks like she's in her mid-20's). I'm like OK hold up, we need to stop. Let me pay you 200 mil like we agreed to on Facebook and you can leave. She's like no, you pay me more. I asked how much, she said 200 dollars, and I showed her our FB conversation where we specifically said 200 mil. She's says yes 200 thousand dollars. She's not very good at this scamming thing.
So assessing my personal situation, I have several things in my advantage. First the Airbnb I rent has a camera outside. I told her if she sends people to get violent with me, it'll all be recorded. Second, I told her I have a recording device near the bed which recorded our entire conversation including her telling me she was 19 before switching her story and then threatening to scam me. This is actually true. I do have a recording device for my own safety. Third, no sexual contact occurred except what she initiated, so there would be no evidence of penetration or whatever. Lastly, she's undoubtedly over 18, cedula or no cedula, so there's no legal issue. I said she can call the police and I can call my consulate. Everything will be on record, including her FB conversation as well as what she said indoors.
Since I live in an Airbnb with other bilingual people nearby, one happened to walk by and I asked him for help, explained the situation to him in English. Meanwhile Karo has no idea wtf we're talking about and can only assume we had plans for her. She got more cooperative afterwards. She still tried to get me to pay 800 thousand COP and I told her, be reasonable and you can go, but be unreasonable and we can tell the police how you're trying to scam me. She agreed to take 300 mil and leave.
Well I'm in an Airbnb that doesn't have a doorman, so I'm responsible for my own safety so these are things I personally have to deal with. If you're in San Peter's this wouldn't even happen, but there are pros and cons to each choice. If you're like me and you rent an Airbnb without a doorman who checks cedulas, it helps to have cameras and recording devices around to help protect yourself.
Lastly here are her FB profile pics in case she changes her profile, and some naughty pics that I indirectly paid for.
[Pictures Deleted by Admin as you wrote she said she is minor.]
MaddTraveler
09-21-22, 04:21
So true and depressing, it was getting bad, or let's say "worse" incrementally prior to the Pandemic, and after about eight months of the Pandemic Colombia opened up, and with the avalanche of new mongers, things have worsened logarithmically, along with all the younger mongers showing up.
So many places have changed over the years. Tijuana used to be the bomb twenty years ago, yet no longer.
I guess I should count my blessings as I have gotten to experience Medellin going back 15 years.On a good and positive note on Medellin is that the city is very large, so it will never become Sosua or Cartagena w these so called Weekend warriors I read so much about lately. Why the worry? Let those who want to spend their money spend their money, let them have Parque Llera, Gusto, Etc. Also most folks here or comments on this are so exaggerating on the issue.
We all know the real Medellin is in Laureles, Centro, the casas, the apartments, all spread out and most of the fake ballers we speak of have zero skills or too lazy to navigate those for the most part.
Then let's not forget the most beautiful women in Colombia IMO come from Pereira, Risaralda. If you use SA you know what I mean and the fake ballers know nothing of sorts.
I can't lie that at one point I considered living in El Poblado if I moved to Mde, but now not a chance. I would and could do so elsewhere since the City itself is still OK. I know most of the guys who are complaining are mostly the ones living there understandably, likely on a tighter budget, including one of you (Not you Surfer500) who sent me a harsh and rude PM after my recent report all because I wrote that I tipped once at the Face2 stage. Said I was also ruining the game for him, and accused me of being also a one-Week Millionaire.
Some of the guys on this forum are a bit too fragile, too told, and just straight hating and exaggerating on many who are truly trying to have some fun. Ruining the game is one thing by making it rain, vs Tipping your favorite stripper 20 k pesos!
Because if someone who tips $5 USD in Medellin ruins your life then maybe what I would write you should do would get me banned here LOL. Seriously. The complaining is just as overwhelming as the actual nonsense in El Poblado. It's laughable really. I meet the old farts all the time in the casas and centro, and they almost never step foot in Gusto and will be the first one to come here to be rude. I'm not on anyone's side, I'm on the cheap side, my side, and I'm not a big spender, except when I'm celebrating on occasion, maybe trying to impress a new non-pro, etc. Heck I'm still young and it's my fucking money that I work hard for LOL.
I'm tagging your post Surfer so don't think I'm directing this at you, it's really to the one especially who was had an issue w me mentioning that I tipped. Also just cause you see a gringo in their 20's or 30's dress really nice, it doesn't automatically means he's going to ruin your life in Medellin. I know, sounds absurd!
A mid-range Bottle at Gusto or Llera club cust 300-500 k. That's $80-$125 on average and split usually by 4 dudes. Those aren't ballers. Point is the negativity is too much and it's just a bunch of hate IMO on the younger crowd who recently discovered mongering. That's all it is. There, I said it, so Stop it!
Carry On with the Fuckery!! . With our hairless balls and wrinkly peckers!!
Isn't prostitution legal in Columbia so long as the girl is 18? Isn't just the pimping, making money off of someone else prostituting, that is illegal?You are absolutely correct. Although some politicians and hotel/apartment owners discourage sex tourism, it's not illegal. I don't condone the "showing off" of someone's sex prowling, but I don't think anyone will be arrested for it. If the person becomes too obnoxious, the authorities will probably find something to charge him with.
Isn't prostitution legal in Columbia so long as the girl is 18? Isn't just the pimping, making money off of someone else prostituting, that is illegal?Legality and the public perception are two different things. Colombia, along with many other Latin American countries, tolerate prostitution and have not made it illegal. But when a place becomes viewed as a sex tourism destination there is public disgust and politicians feel obligated to act. Prostitution is tolerated, not liked or loved or admired. If you listen to local radio you will hear the story every time some foreigner is charged with some illegal act, and your taxi driver will comment on it. Basically blame the foreigner. No one says anything about the rampant sexual activity especially in poorer areas and resulting in very few virgins older than 14 or so. It can be politically popular to campaign to clean up the streets of Lleras, for example. And to keep all commercial sex hidden or at least not on front pages by having the areas of tolerance, etc. For a Colombian man it is known that they see working girls, but no one wants to talk about it, know about it, or have it in their face.
So what may be legal may not help you if someone decides to make an example out of you. You are assumed guilty if you are charged with something. So you will probably be in custody (jail) waiting for your case to be heard. You may well get a fair trial, if you live that long.
So true, it is unlikely you will have any problems if you quietly do your own personal thing, visit local establishments, and generally keep a reasonably low profile. But the moment you get into running tours or advertising back home. Anything seen as promoting sex tourism. You have painted a target on your back. In my opinion not worth doing.
Not a chica report, but I guess useful too.
Today I wanted to take some pesos, without having to pay a fee or an outrageous margin on the exchange rate from USD to COP.
The Davidienda cajero at east Poblado wanted to give me a 4073 pesos per 1 USD, and clearly showed a "the exchange margin is 7. 5%. That shit was not nice, so I cancel the transaction and went to the Tesoro mall to use Colpatria.
Once at Tesoro, I found immediately another Davidenda, so I wanted to give it another try. Damn, my debit card exchange rate was the same 4073 shit. -pay attention here- At this point I wanted to cancel, but instead of pressing the cancel key I instead (by mistake) selected *I do not accept the exchange rate*. With my surprise, the ATM started giving me money. I was so hungry because I thought I had lost 7. 5% of 1. 520,000 COP = 114 k but instead there was a good surprise. The Charles Schawab transaction was 345.09 USD and it corresponds to a rate of 4404 very close to the Google 4435.This has been explained many times. The ATM offers an exchange rate, which is well below the current rate. If you decline their rate you get the current rate.
SA girl was basically the high end of the range there, which again I'm not so proud of. Yes received BBBJ from here and the majority of the 5-6 chicas on the trip, with the exception of the threesome with the centro SWs. Only 1 chica went for no condom during sex, it just wasn't discussed (also she was the only good morning sex).
No FB chicas, I guess it feels a little bit too personal for me to actually use FB in that capacity.
Re: scopamine- after everything closed in El Poblado I was chatting with a group of 3 chicas. They said there was a place still open, and took me to a party bus wagon that drives you to Seven Club. A young Colombian guy kinda merged in our group and we were all drinking together. After arriving to the club, things got incredibly blurry for about an hour, and then I looked at the Colombian guy and he was passed out and throwing up, whereas the girls were fine. So that's when I suspected something bad happened, and I was able to pull myself together sufficiently to call an Uber and get out of there (dropped off the passed out Colombiano in El Poblado too). Felt pretty crappy for the next 2 days, but feel like I managed to dodge something much worse. Google Reviews of the place report similar experiences. Maybe it was something else or a low dosage because I snapped out of it eventually. I guess just a warning for anyone that gets on that party bus after the bars close in El Poblado, be very careful with what you drink / ingest.I'll be in MDE Friday and need a wingman. This will be my first time there.
Dcrist0527
09-21-22, 14:26
You said there were more guys then girls at M1 but then you said all the rooms were vacant? Its been over a year since I stayed there but have been staying there since 2006. Last time I was there it was very busy with the ladies.
I usually stay at M1 for just a night or 2 then get an Airbnb. If its that slow I may not stay on my next trip. Its a great location for sure. Pretty high rates if your getting a nice room there w / Jacuzzi.
My issue now is trying to find decent flights anymore! They all suck!Sorry I confused you. Yes, both are true. A lot of vacant rooms. But the guys still outnumbered the girls. Literally, there were two days where there were only 2 girls there all day. It was very disappointing.
Yes, the rooms are high by Colombian standards. And the accommodations, while clean and safe, are just not that good. I justify it with the interactions throughout the day. But last week was a disappointment for sure.
I'll note. Another poster mentioned a 15-day ban. So maybe it'll return to normal soon.
Dcrist0527
09-21-22, 14:33
If you guys enjoy stating at that place you should stop posting about this. You will discourage prospective customers to the point of putting the place out of business.With all due respect, we're better off knowing. As I just posted, I love this place for the casual environment with the girls during the day. I believe most would agree that based on accommodations, there is better value elsewhere. The draw, in my opinion, is the daytime access to the girls. If that ever goes away, so do their customers in my opinion.
Again, I don't mean this as snarky. But reporting the current situation seems to be the prudent thing to do. I really hope they recover from the current situation and return to normal. They are great people and I want them to succeed as much as anyone. I'm a fan of theirs. But I wish some other mongers let me know the situation before my trip last week. Just trying to help the brotherhood.
Anyone mind sharing a link to this place's website?
Be advised that North Americans and Europeans are subject to the laws of their country of citizenship wherever they may be, including Colombia. This means if prostitution is not legal in your country of citizenship then you are breaking the law in your country. Enforcement risk is a related but different subject. In basic terms the risk of enforcement increases in direct proportion to how much attention you call to yourself. You are also at greater enforcement risk if you are a traveling offender because immigration authorities are on the lookout for single travelers of a certain demographic profile. The long and short of it is the guys who publish social media content and make spectacles of themselves put everyone at greater risk. As we've seen, governments tend to eliminate the problem.
Isn't prostitution legal in Columbia so long as the girl is 18? Isn't just the pimping, making money off of someone else prostituting, that is illegal?
You could change it back later. Also, you don't lose your contacts when you change your WhatsApp phone number. At any rate, best of luck and consider traveling with a spare SIM you can activate remotely.
The whole point is to try to keep the same number.
I think we are saying the same thing. When I refer to market rates I mean 30 K (sometimes a little less) plus room. It hasn't changed. Foreigners, especially the weekend warrior variety, have always been a market of its own. Girls and gringos tell me the average fee is 50 K (sometimes more) plus room. If girls are standing their ground and refusing to go with any foreigner for a market rate then I stand corrected but I haven't noticed it. I realize there are foreigners who don't know enough to challenge above market offers. They are the guys who make the foreigner market. However gold chain wearing big swinging dick types come to Centro, I struggle to imagine a time when it will cost 300 K to get a girl in Plaza Botero. Life is full of surprises so time will tell.
I don't agree with this, or perhaps I'm just misunderstanding what your saying, but the "weekend warriors" have done the same in Centro as some of the SW's there deal totally different with the majority of the foreigners they encounter, "meaning higher prices."
Maybe it's me who is misunderstanding. Are you paying more and do you think it's because more foreigners come to Centro than in years past?
I don't agree with this, or perhaps I'm just misunderstanding what your saying, but the "weekend warriors" have done the same in Centro as some of the SW's there deal totally different with the majority of the foreigners they encounter, "meaning higher prices."
Pictures Deleted by Admin as you wrote she said she is minor....It's ok if admin needs to delete this again, but she is clearly not, and even if she is I think regular profile pictures should be OK right? I think it's in the interest of the community to know this person so the scam can be avoided.
https://www.facebook.com/karo.rojas.771
I forgot whether I added her or she added me, but anyways, I wasn't planning to see her since she wasn't that good looking, but she had nice tits so I took a chance. Wow, that's a lot of drama that you had to go through to get her out of the apartment you where in.
And just think of how often she has pulled this stunt and gotten away with it.
I can see guys easily freaking out and handing over the $ 200 USD versus the 200,000 COP. And the $ 200 USD is almost a months salary in Colombia.
I bet she has a pretty good batting average with the scam she's pulling.
I have no personal Fayboo experience, but suspect a lot more scamming is going on than people realize because most guys wouldn't be posting about what happened like you have.
PepolesBuddy
09-21-22, 17:56
Met this girl on seeking and she tried to scope me. She has a sun type tattoo on her right arm and tattoo on her upper Abs. She goes by Majo.
We had a date, things went well and I invited her back to my place. Things got hot and heavy so I excused myself to freshen up. I was in my bathroom taking a shower to freshen up before the action. What she did not know is I had a security camera setup watching her the whole time.
She put something in my drink that I could not easily identify through my camera. I have a security camera in my apartment for cases like this. When I saw what she did. I ended the night by telling her I was having a stomach bug and asked her to leave.
I've filed a police report the following day and still waiting to hear back what they have to say. Unfortunately it doesn't look good on my side since she did not actually scope me. All I was able to provide was the number she gave me.
Careful out there gents and have fun!
Legality and the public perception are two different things. Colombia, along with many other Latin American countries, tolerate prostitution and have not made it illegal. But when a place becomes viewed as a sex tourism destination there is public disgust and politicians feel obligated to act. Prostitution is tolerated, not liked or loved or admired. ....
...it is unlikely you will have any problems if you quietly do your own personal thing, visit local establishments, and generally keep a reasonably low profile. But the moment you get into running tours or advertising back home. Anything seen as promoting sex tourism. You have painted a target on your back. In my opinion not worth doing.
I completely agree. Many of us have been around long enough to witness what happened to the owner of Passions (Sosua), Cuba Dave (San Jose), Colombia Jake (Medellin), and the Israeli Hostel (Cartagena / Santa Marta). In each of those episodes the locals were fine when the profile was low, but as soon as the promotion started they were taken down.
To be honest that is my primary concern with the Weekend Warriors. It isn't so much concern around raising prices as them drawing too much attention to the sex tourism while Medellin is increasingly trying to promote itself as a broader (and cleaner) cultural vacation and digital nomad destination. The locals and business people are trying to draw in more families and everyday tourists who unsurprisingly don't appreciate a loud, drunk, obnoxious gangs of mongers negotiating threesomes and multiple leches in the middle of Parque Lleras. If people aren't careful the politicians will come hard and try to clean it up even more than they historically have. Of course Centro will always exist, but many of the other spots will be cleaned up or made more difficult to operate.
LoveItHere69
09-21-22, 18:55
Beware of scammer. https://www.facebook.com/karo.rojas.771
She is a Centro girl. She is a bad girl and I quickly noticed that 3 of her friends are trouble too. I do not have time to go through her 1000+ friends list. But I know there are more. Check under her picture for "mutual friends" on your FB account. Her friends list are a Hit List of who to avoid. Unfriend all her friends. The more foreigners shown on these girls friends list make other foreigners think they are good and safe girls. So if there are very few foreigners listed as friends on her account it may help other foreigners question her as being a good girl or not. Example: I know and like Bob. I see a Karo listed as one of Bob's friends. Since Bob has her as a friend she must be safe right? Wrong! Delete the witch and help other guys out.
The smoothest way I was taken was Valentina. She has a huge rack and I told her I wanted to suck on them and she said ok. She takes a shower and then I do. When I walk into the room she is rubbing baby oil on her tits and chest so that I could not suck on them.
There is a very short thin spinner with no tits working Parque Lleras. She has a true baby face. She worked Centro and got me. Took her bottom half clothes off but not the top half. That was extra. Turned around with her shoes on into the doggie position and that was all I got. That was two years ago and I was mad I paid 40,000 COP versus some poor guy paying 150,000+ COP in Parque Lleras.
Wow, that's a lot of drama that you had to go through to get her out of the apartment you where in.
And just think of how often she has pulled this stunt and gotten away with it.
I can see guys easily freaking out and handing over the $ 200 USD versus the 200,000 COP. And the $ 200 USD is almost a months salary in Colombia.
I bet she has a pretty good batting average with the scam she's pulling.
I have no personal Fayboo experience, but suspect a lot more scamming is going on than people realize because most guys wouldn't be posting about what happened like you have.That's the thing, there's really no preventing scams if the girl really wants to do it unless you really want to involve the Colombian justice system. In Bogota I've had a girl come in my room with a valid cedula, but refuse to do anything. What can you really do in that case except pay her to leave right? The thing with Karo is roughly equivalent in the end, except with more drama. The recording devices are there as a last resort in case if ever the police are involved, but you'd rather pay a few hundred mil to avoid the problem and warn others about the biatch.
And it's not just a Colombian problem or FB problem, I've had similar non-performers in Angeles City Philippines. Any Centro chica can do the same in a hotel room, claiming you abused her or whatever. I personally have encountered this enough times to do the best I can do prep for it.
Forgot to attach the photos last post.
AmorPorFavor
09-21-22, 19:18
Legality and the public perception are two different things. Colombia, along with many other Latin American countries, tolerate prostitution and have not made it illegal. But when a place becomes viewed as a sex tourism destination there is public disgust and politicians feel obligated to act. Prostitution is tolerated, not liked or loved or admired. If you listen to local radio you will hear the story every time some foreigner is charged with some illegal act, and your taxi driver will comment on it. Basically blame the foreigner. No one says anything about the rampant sexual activity especially in poorer areas and resulting in very few virgins older than 14 or so. It can be politically popular to campaign to clean up the streets of Lleras, for example. And to keep all commercial sex hidden or at least not on front pages by having the areas of tolerance, etc. For a Colombian man it is known that they see working girls, but no one wants to talk about it, know about it, or have it in their face.
So what may be legal may not help you if someone decides to make an example out of you. You are assumed guilty if you are charged with something. So you will probably be in custody (jail) waiting for your case to be heard. You may well get a fair trial, if you live that long.
So true, it is unlikely you will have any problems if you quietly do your own personal thing, visit local establishments, and generally keep a reasonably low profile. But the moment you get into running tours or advertising back home. Anything seen as promoting sex tourism. You have painted a target on your back. In my opinion not worth doing.Don't worry about me I always fly under the radar and keep a very low profile. I travel solo and use SA almost exclusively. I just wanted to verify my understanding of the legality of prostitution in Columbia. I also only stay in places where ID is verified by security. And I never post anything about mongering on social media just basic travel photos.
Maybe it's me who is misunderstanding. Are you paying more and do you think it's because more foreigners come to Centro than in years past?The weekend warriors are in fact driving up the prices. True story, this black vennie named Geisis that I have known for several years. I met her in Santa Fe in Bogota and I believe she was charging $30 k COP plus $6 k COP for the room. I started repeating with her and she quickly became one of my favorite girls. After a while we stopped using condoms and I'd give her $100 k COP for like 2 hours in my hotel.
Than last year she moved to medellin and was working in the veracruz church area, everything was all good still $100 k BBFS and spend a cpl hours. Sometimes we go out to eat afterwards, I'd pay for the food but no extra charge or anything like that.
Then all the sudden she started working in Poblado in and around Parque Lleras with all you weekend warriors shelling out the big bucks and flexing your gold chains and all that shit. Now all the sudden like this fast February, she wanted $200 k COP instead of the usual $100 k I had been giving her for years. And she even had the nerve to say that $200 k isn't much and that's what she makes en el poblado.
So yes you weekend warriors are in fact driving up prices and it had a direct effect on my personal life. I really liked Geisis but I wasn't about to pay $200 k like some sucker when I can go to Botero and get new chicas for $30 k-40 k COP with a rubber and $60 k-80 k without. So I had to let Geisis go. Thanks to you weekend warriors.
MaddTraveler
09-21-22, 19:40
The weekend warriors are in fact driving up the prices. True story, this black vennie named Geisis that I have known for several years. I met her in Santa Fe in Bogota and I believe she was charging $30 k COP plus $6 k COP for the room. I started repeating with her and she quickly became one of my favorite girls. After a while we stopped using condoms and I'd give her $100 k COP for like 2 hours in my hotel.
Than last year she moved to medellin and was working in the veracruz church area, everything was all good still $100 k BBFS and spend a cpl hours. Sometimes we go out to eat afterwards, I'd pay for the food but no extra charge or anything like that.
Then all the sudden she started working in Poblado in and around Parque Lleras with all you weekend warriors shelling out the big bucks and flexing your gold chains and all that shit. Now all the sudden like this fast February, she wanted $200 k COP instead of the usual $100 k I had been giving her for years. And she even had the nerve to say that $200 k isn't much and that's what she makes en el poblado.
So yes you weekend warriors are in fact driving up prices and it had a direct effect on my personal life. I really liked Geisis but I wasn't about to pay $200 k like some sucker when I can go to Botero and get new chicas for $30 k-40 k COP with a rubber and $60 k-80 k without. So I had to let Geisis go. Thanks to you weekend warriors.If you're struggling on a budget why not stick w Centro, why go to Llera anyway and then to cry your life is affected. This is monger forum and it sounds like you're crying. Many like you also cried when pricing went up in Sosua and had same argument weekend warrior this and that. So lame right about now and we need a different song. Everything goes up over the years incl rent, food, and yes pussy will cost more. Why would you expect to pay 100 k a year or two ago and still pay that now? LOL.
Of course it's easier to blame on others. Maybe you need wife? Just marry one of the Centro girls and call it a day and make some centro babies while at it.
PepolesBuddy
09-21-22, 19:53
This is A Annonymous post! It is not me!
Met this girl on seeking and she tried to scope me. Things went well on our public date so I invited her back to my place.
When things got hot / heavy I excused myself to freshen up in the shower. What she didn't realize is that I have a security camera watching her the whole time.
She put something in my drink that I could not easily see.
When I saw this I made an excuse and told her I have the stomach bug and asked her to leave.
I filed a police report the next day. However it's not looking good on my side since she did not actually scope me. All I have is her number and her seeking profile.
She goes by the name of majo. She has a sun type tattoo on her right shoulder and a tattoo above her abs.
You more than tripled what you were paying the girl and you are complaining about other parties causing prices to go up?
The weekend warriors are in fact driving up the prices. True story, this black vennie named Geisis that I have known for several years. I met her in Santa Fe in Bogota and I believe she was charging $30 k COP plus $6 k COP for the room. I started repeating with her and she quickly became one of my favorite girls. After a while we stopped using condoms and I'd give her $100 k COP for like 2 hours in my hotel.
Than last year she moved to medellin and was working in the veracruz church area, everything was all good still $100 k BBFS and spend a cpl hours. Sometimes we go out to eat afterwards, I'd pay for the food but no extra charge or anything like that.
Then all the sudden she started working in Poblado in and around Parque Lleras with all you weekend warriors shelling out the big bucks and flexing your gold chains and all that shit. Now all the sudden like this fast February, she wanted $200 k COP instead of the usual $100 k I had been giving her for years. And she even had the nerve to say that $200 k isn't much and that's what she makes en el poblado.
So yes you weekend warriors are in fact driving up prices and it had a direct effect on my personal life. I really liked Geisis but I wasn't about to pay $200 k like some sucker when I can go to Botero and get new chicas for $30 k-40 k COP with a rubber and $60 k-80 k without. So I had to let Geisis go. Thanks to you weekend warriors.
I think we are saying the same thing. When I refer to market rates I mean 30 K (sometimes a little less) plus room. It hasn't changed. Foreigners, especially the weekend warrior variety, have always been a market of its own. Girls and gringos tell me the average fee is 50 K (sometimes more) plus room. If girls are standing their ground and refusing to go with any foreigner for a market rate then I stand corrected but I haven't noticed it. I realize there are foreigners who don't know enough to challenge above market offers. They are the guys who make the foreigner market. However gold chain wearing big swinging dick types come to Centro, I struggle to imagine a time when it will cost 300 K to get a girl in Plaza Botero. Life is full of surprises so time will tell.I can see the day when some Centro Chicas are getting 300 K, but not in our lifetimes. LOL.
There's no shortage of girls going for the "locals" rate seeing that its almost the entire market there, easily over 90% and probably closer to 95%.
However, there are girls who won't go for the market rate with foreigners because they know they can get more, and paying 20,000 COP more is chump change for most foreigners.
And there are lot of girls in Centro that specifically look for gringos that I call "gringo hunters". In some instances you would think they are following the Tijuana Puta model at least when it comes to time and upcharges like for a BJ.
I haven't heard yet of a Centro worker quoting two positions with only their pant's / shorts off, but it wouldn't be surprising if someone reports this one day as being an upcharge for all of the girls clothing coming off. That will be a sad day indeed.
In your case, and mine, and other "street rats", we can stand our ground with the "gringo hunters", and pay the what the locals are paying, and most of them will accept it. But I avoid the "gringo hunters", a red flag at least for me dealing with them, as they've become accustomed to working gringos. And I don't blame them as it is a business for them.
There have been a lot of guys who have been showing up since the Pandemic as you mention who won't challenge the girls, because they don't know any better, and / or have enough Spanish speaking kills, and don't have an issue paying an additional 20,000 or more than what the locals are paying.
Be advised that North Americans and Europeans are subject to the laws of their country of citizenship wherever they may be, including Colombia. This means if prostitution is not legal in your country of citizenship then you are breaking the law in your country. Enforcement risk is a related but different subject. In basic terms the risk of enforcement increases in direct proportion to how much attention you call to yourself. You are also at greater enforcement risk if you are a traveling offender because immigration authorities are on the lookout for single travelers of a certain demographic profile. The long and short of it is the guys who publish social media content and make spectacles of themselves put everyone at greater risk. As we've seen, governments tend to eliminate the problem.Luckily prostitution is not illegal in the USA by federal law.
I do agree with being low key and not making a spectacle (fool) of yourself.
However, unfortunately, the fools have arrived. Lol.
OK in the interest of changing up the content focus I hereby concede that weekend warriors are the root of price increases in Centro and wherever else.
I can't help but notice however two things about your black vennie example that I assume you consider to be widely representative. As I mentioned in another post you (I also assume you don't consider yourself a weekend warrior) began paying her more than triple what she had been asking. The second thing I can't help but notice is you mention she started working in Poblado. I recognize the qualifications you cited (unsafe sex practice and you liked her). A third think I notice is you gave up the black vennie because you can get girls for 30 K or so in Centro. I think we are saying the same thing.
The weekend warriors are in fact driving up the prices. True story, this black vennie named Geisis that I have known for several years. I met her in Santa Fe in Bogota and I believe she was charging $30 k COP plus $6 k COP for the room. I started repeating with her and she quickly became one of my favorite girls. After a while we stopped using condoms and I'd give her $100 k COP for like 2 hours in my hotel.
Than last year she moved to Medellin and was working in the veracruz church area, everything was all good still $100 k BBFS and spend a cpl hours. Sometimes we go out to eat afterwards, I'd pay for the food but no extra charge or anything like that.
Then all the sudden she started working in Poblado in and around Parque Lleras with all you weekend warriors shelling out the big bucks and flexing your gold chains and all that shit. Now all the sudden like this fast February, she wanted $200 k COP instead of the usual $100 k I had been giving her for years. And she even had the nerve to say that $200 k isn't much and that's what she makes en el poblado.
So yes you weekend warriors are in fact driving up prices and it had a direct effect on my personal life. I really liked Geisis but I wasn't about to pay $200 k like some sucker when I can go to Botero and get new chicas for $30 k-40 k COP with a rubber and $60 k-80 k without. So I had to let Geisis go. Thanks to you weekend warriors.
Manizales911
09-21-22, 20:56
Don't worry about me I always fly under the radar and keep a very low profile. I travel solo and use SA almost exclusively. I just wanted to verify my understanding of the legality of prostitution in Columbia. I also only stay in places where ID is verified by security. And I never post anything about mongering on social media just basic travel photos.And yet you still don't know how to spell the name Col-O-mbia.
The weekend warriors are in fact driving up the prices. True story, this black vennie named Geisis that I have known for several years. I met her in Santa Fe in Bogota and I believe she was charging $30 k COP plus $6 k COP for the room. I started repeating with her and she quickly became one of my favorite girls. After a while we stopped using condoms and I'd give her $100 k COP for like 2 hours in my hotel.
Than last year she moved to medellin and was working in the veracruz church area, everything was all good still $100 k BBFS and spend a cpl hours. Sometimes we go out to eat afterwards, I'd pay for the food but no extra charge or anything like that.
Then all the sudden she started working in Poblado in and around Parque Lleras with all you weekend warriors shelling out the big bucks and flexing your gold chains and all that shit. Now all the sudden like this fast February, she wanted $200 k COP instead of the usual $100 k I had been giving her for years. And she even had the nerve to say that $200 k isn't much and that's what she makes en el poblado.
So yes you weekend warriors are in fact driving up prices and it had a direct effect on my personal life. I really liked Geisis but I wasn't about to pay $200 k like some sucker when I can go to Botero and get new chicas for $30 k-40 k COP with a rubber and $60 k-80 k without. So I had to let Geisis go. Thanks to you weekend warriors.What you said not only applies to El Centro girls, but also Seeking / Tinder / FB, etc. A couple of years ago I used to pay 300-350 k overnight, now the same girls want 600-1 million pesos. Crazy! Some of them figured out how to make extra money working onlyfans or webcams, so this is another reason why they started charging more. I still get 350-450 k deals, but it has become harder and harder to find them.
What you said not only applies to El Centro girls, but also Seeking / Tinder / FB, etc. A couple of years ago I used to pay 300-350 k overnight, now the same girls want 600-1 million pesos. Crazy! Some of them figured out how to make extra money working onlyfans or webcams, so this is another reason why they started charging more. I still get 350-450 k deals, but it has become harder and harder to find them.The "Costa Rica-ization" of Medellin is in full effect.
Husker Dude
09-21-22, 21:56
Anyone mind sharing a link to this place's website?hotelmedellinplaza.com
AmorPorFavor
09-21-22, 22:09
And yet you still don't know how to spell the name Col-O-mbia.Sorry I have only been there twice and I am very stupid and suck at spelling. I will be spending a week in MDE and then a week in Santa Marta to visit chicas I have already spent multiple days and nights with on other trips this Dec and will learn how to spell it then. Maybe I won't write a trip report because I might misspell something.
Luckily prostitution is not illegal in the USA by federal law.
I do agree with being low key and not making a spectacle (fool) of yourself.
However, unfortunately, the fools have arrived. Lol.This is true, in the US prostitution is not illegal and its legality varies from state to state. Haven't you heard of the famous Bunny Ranch in Nevada? Nevada has legal prostitution in brothels eventhough it's basically just a big ripoff. Also I believe Rhode Island has (or had) legal prostitution. And in Canada (Montreal) and Mexico (Tijuana, CDMX, etc) there is also legal prostitution. That pretty much covers North America.
I agree 100%. This is someone I used to hang w back home and in late 30's so the behavior is a total surprise. The only wing-men I normally travel with are dudes I've met while on trips and we'd end up making plans to meet on same spot or even here on this board. So this won't happen again.
But he did delete some of those pics from his phone. There are tons of stories where guys got in trouble in US airports due to phone contents that are deemed illegal. In fact, just so some of yall know there are undercover cops working on Seeking w fake women profiles incl local Colombian police. Not going to get into details how I know, so I always advise to never, never negotiate sex in exchange for money or specific ppm arrangement while on US soil on whatsapp / messenger; secondly, if she looks too young she may later reveal being underage and of course it is a set up. Those are things I also had to educate heavily on since buddy was going hard after the 16-17 year old looking ones.
Even in Llera there are 17 year old girls working there, and likely some of them maybe w law enforcement. Yes I ask them for ages and they do say 17. FYI legal consent age in Colombia is 14, and many get in trouble for it bc they assume it's the same for working girls LOL. Consent age for working girl is 18, so if you're paying she better be 18. It is something some of the bar owners are working on to get them banned from the park.
I've been in the game for a while, and not only I can sniff out those potential troubles, I also don't seek them. But man it is a lot of heavy work to try an educate someone who has no common sense or self control.Are there any likely true and recent stories of guys getting in "trouble" for having pics on their phone of young women in sexy wear (bikinis, lingerie, etc.)?
If a CBP officer sees Maria on your phone in a bikini (and she is obviously not 12 or 13 but certainly looks college aged) what is the charge he tells you that you have as he's putting you in handcuffs?
AmorPorFavor
09-21-22, 22:30
This is true, in the US prostitution is not illegal and its legality varies from state to state. Haven't you heard of the famous Bunny Ranch in Nevada? Nevada has legal prostitution in brothels eventhough it's basically just a big ripoff. Also I believe Rhode Island has (or had) legal prostitution. And in Canada (Montreal) and Mexico (Tijuana, CDMX, etc) there is also legal prostitution. That pretty much covers North America.Great because I am sure California won't prosecute me for paying any women in Colombia or Mexico for sex. Glad I don't live in a red state.
SavePros321
09-21-22, 22:32
The weekend warriors are in fact driving up the prices. True story, this black vennie named Geisis that I have known for several years. I met her in Santa Fe in Bogota and I believe she was charging $30 k COP plus $6 k COP for the room. I started repeating with her and she quickly became one of my favorite girls. After a while we stopped using condoms and I'd give her $100 k COP for like 2 hours in my hotel.
Than last year she moved to medellin and was working in the veracruz church area, everything was all good still $100 k BBFS and spend a cpl hours. Sometimes we go out to eat afterwards, I'd pay for the food but no extra charge or anything like that.
Then all the sudden she started working in Poblado in and around Parque Lleras with all you weekend warriors shelling out the big bucks and flexing your gold chains and all that shit. Now all the sudden like this fast February, she wanted $200 k COP instead of the usual $100 k I had been giving her for years. And she even had the nerve to say that $200 k isn't much and that's what she makes en el poblado.
So yes you weekend warriors are in fact driving up prices and it had a direct effect on my personal life. I really liked Geisis but I wasn't about to pay $200 k like some sucker when I can go to Botero and get new chicas for $30 k-40 k COP with a rubber and $60 k-80 k without. So I had to let Geisis go. Thanks to you weekend warriors.This is why I always chuckle when I see guys here freely handing out their chica contacts info like candy around here. I've never done that, and therefore I have not experienced this chica inflation others have.
I can't think of one chica I've been dealing with over multiple years who has told me "It used to be this much. Now it is this much".
You guys thought we were joking about the Sosua "make it rain" wolf packs eventually making their way to Medellin to come and fuck up another spot. We were saying this even before Corona.
People will learn to keep their mouths shut about the things they hold dear. But the excitement of trying to impress a bunch of strangers online whom they've never met in person is far to greater I'm afraid.
And what happened to Oster-bro? Did he get knocked by Big Brother for promoting or something?
JackTaggart
09-21-22, 22:36
Are there any likely true and recent stories of guys getting in "trouble" for having pics on their phone of young women in sexy wear (bikinis, lingerie, etc.)?
If a CBP officer sees Maria on your phone in a bikini (and she is obviously not 12 or 13 but certainly looks college aged) what is the charge he tells you that you have as he's putting you in handcuffs?Assuming that's all you have I think you would be fine. But if you also have messages about doing illegal things in the states everything is fair game on your phone. At least as I understand it. I think there was a recent supreme court case that was very supportive of border control though.
Great because I am sure California won't prosecute me for paying any women in Colombia or Mexico for sex. Glad I don't live in a red state.You know if you go back in history by about 200 years there was legal prostitution all over the US. They used to have brothels from Ft. Worth, Texas to Cheyenne, Wyoming and everywhere in between. It was probably the stupid Republicans that started making it illegal, just like how they have dry counties in Kansas where it's illegal to drink alcohol. Republicans don't want people to be able to enjoy themselves, they just want you to go to church and be stupid like them, and they don't want women to have access to abortions either.
SavePros321
09-21-22, 22:49
I completely agree. Many of us have been around long enough to witness what happened to the owner of Passions (Sosua), Cuba Dave (San Jose), Colombia Jake (Medellin), and the Israeli Hostel (Cartagena / Santa Marta). In each of those episodes the locals were fine when the profile was low, but as soon as the promotion started they were taken down.
To be honest that is my primary concern with the Weekend Warriors. It isn't so much concern around raising prices as them drawing too much attention to the sex tourism while Medellin is increasingly trying to promote itself as a broader (and cleaner) cultural vacation and digital nomad destination. The locals and business people are trying to draw in more families and everyday tourists who unsurprisingly don't appreciate a loud, drunk, obnoxious gangs of mongers negotiating threesomes and multiple leches in the middle of Parque Lleras. If people aren't careful the politicians will come hard and try to clean it up even more than they historically have. Of course Centro will always exist, but many of the other spots will be cleaned up or made more difficult to operate.I wouldn't be surprised if there is some sort of facial recognition system implemented on the Colombian side to identify all the "Promoters" (YouTubers, TikTokers, FB group owners, etc.) who show up. They will catch them at immigration and either ban them and turn them right back around on the spot, or throw them in jail and let them explain their way out of the situation to an underpaid attorney who definitly doesn't give two shits about how you ended up in said predicament.
Incidentally, there is definitely a correlation between this and how hard it has become to rent a spot where the owner is not screaming "No Sex Tourism! "No Parties! "No Visitors!
Wasn't really a thing pre-2020.
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