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I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today.
She hasn't changed. About 2 1/2 yrs ago Jenni was my 1st facebook date, & remains to this day, the worst. I've done 20 or so fb dates, & she was truly the only bad 1. She did what I wanted but it was a total rush job. She told me I had an HR. & that was it. Complained all the way through. There are some bad ones out there, she is 1 of the worst!
Mr Enternational
10-06-22, 06:44
I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today. She propositioned a trio and I liked the girl she sent pictures of so we agreed. She initially asked for 400 k each but I negotiated down to 600 k. I give her 500 k and say that this is for the whole mess. She refuses and wants the extra 100 k. At this point I just fucking hope I never have to see them again and give them the 100 k and kick them the fuck out. It was an expensive lesson learned and I hope to never deal with this again. Fuck, I should have just gone to centro and I would have had a better experience for a much lower price.I guess you get what you pay for? I thought facebook chicks were 150 to 200?
LebaneseBlonde
10-06-22, 10:16
I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today. She's on my facebook I was going to avoid anyway not really into the spinner body type. Thanks for the heads up.
I guess you get what you pay for? I thought facebook chicks were 150 to 200?So I'm interested in a trio, but seems tough to find. And I don't want to ask a girl for the reasons in the post. If anyone has any suggestions or direct me in the right direction that would be much appreciated. I'm subscribed so feel free to PM me.
Trying to make this the most memorable expression of Colombia!
TIA.
We went to the love motel but the younger girl (Mariana Sosa in FB) did not have a cedula on her so they didn't let her in. The girl had a picture of her cedula but the motel didn't accept that. This was strike 1 and I should have followed my better judgement and broke it off there. I decided that the girls look ok and that I can keep an eye on them so I brought them to my apartment.I try to be sympathetic in these situations but this time I just can't be. You took potential jailbait whose ID had been rejected by those who know more than you do, to your private home. That is dangerous on a level that you seemingly fail to understand. You need to go home. You are not ready for this.
She's on my facebook I was going to avoid anyway not really into the spinner body type. Thanks for the heads up.I saw Jenni before COVID. She was very sweet and was happy with whatever money I gave her. I knew she became a pro when her Facebook started to explode with gringo friends. I lost track of her when she got pregnant. She changed her WhatsApp and disappeared completely. I saw her again on FB last year. She told me she was not interested in seeing guys because she had a child and a "husband".
I think the girl who taught her the business was Mariana Palacios. If you are friends with Jenni you probably have Mariana in your FB list. When I saw Jenni's WhatsApp status in expensive hotel bathrooms w Mariana I knew she was gone. Oh well.
Get ye to Centro. It may not be any more fulfilling than the Dandyman incident but it won't cost almost half a million pesos.
So I'm interested in a trio, but seems tough to find. And I don't want to ask a girl for the reasons in the post. If anyone has any suggestions or direct me in the right direction that would be much appreciated. I'm subscribed so feel free to PM me.
Trying to make this the most memorable expression of Colombia!
TIA.
These facebook stories are not filling me with curiosity or regret at not sourcing dates from facebook.
I saw Jenni before COVID. She was very sweet and was happy with whatever money I gave her. I knew she became a pro when her Facebook started to explode with gringo friends. I lost track of her when she got pregnant. She changed her WhatsApp and disappeared completely. I saw her again on FB last year. She told me she was not interested in seeing guys because she had a child and a "husband".
I think the girl who taught her the business was Mariana Palacios. If you are friends with Jenni you probably have Mariana in your FB list. When I saw Jenni's WhatsApp status in expensive hotel bathrooms w Mariana I knew she was gone. Oh well.
It seems we need to adopt a cancel culture to protect ourselves from some of these girls.
I saw Jenni before COVID. She was very sweet and was happy with whatever money I gave her. I knew she became a pro when her Facebook started to explode with gringo friends. I lost track of her when she got pregnant. She changed her WhatsApp and disappeared completely. I saw her again on FB last year. She told me she was not interested in seeing guys because she had a child and a "husband".
I think the girl who taught her the business was Mariana Palacios. If you are friends with Jenni you probably have Mariana in your FB list. When I saw Jenni's WhatsApp status in expensive hotel bathrooms w Mariana I knew she was gone. Oh well.
There are plenty of guys here with much more FB experience than I, but mine is recent so I'll tell you what has worked for me. I'm going to assume you have already started by creating a secondary account or you plan on just using your main account. This post is not about how to get started. There are other excellent posts in the forum about that and I'm sure you can find them. I'm just too lazy to look right now jaja.
Once you have established the account you can't just start friend requesting every chick in Medellin. FB will shut you down fast. That's what happened with the 1st secondary account I opened. I limit mine to 10-12 requests a day at most. I've read that other BM's have done more but I'm not trying to draw attention. There are posts in this forum that have names of chicas to use to get started. Those are gold. Once you've gotten your first 10 friends or so it gets much easier. Facebook will start making suggestions almost immediately. These are not always good but occasionally they get it right. I do some additional research which I'll get to in a minute. Look at the people who have liked the posts of the friends you already have. You will quickly learn to spot 2 types of people. 1 is other mongers and those are fairly obvious from the profiles. 2 is other prepagos. Eventually you run into someone who has an "open" friends list (some with thousands of names) and then it's just shooting fish in a barrel. But even then I do some homework.
These are the things I look at every time. Where do they live? This is almost always front and center. I open up the About Info. What is the age? Most have birthdays listed, some have the years they were born. Many will have single in relationship status. Also in About info, what are their likes and who do they follow. Next I look at photos. So many of them have revealing pics that make it quite obvious what they are looking for. Are there mutual friends? That's another good sign. Most importantly in my opinion, how recent are the posts. If their most recent post is more than 3 months old, don't bother. I won't send a request without a post from the past 30 days. The ones that will accept will be active and posting regularly. I can look through the entire profile and make a decision in 15-20 seconds.
I currently have 160 friends and 190 outstanding requests, 45% success rate by my count. It could probably be higher but I won't put a picture of my face in the profile. I have been told by two women that they would not accept my friend request without a picture. I told them if it ever happens that we are going to meet I will gladly send a pic over Whatsapp. I have a general distrust of FB but it is a great tool.At JohnHancock11, Thanks for your suggestions. Excellent post for the newbies like me. Can anyone suggest, what should be profile details like where are the profile from, etc? I guess the name and other personal data can be approximate, but does it matter if you say in the FB profile that you are from US / Canada / Europe? Does that make you a potential target for scamming or something like that? Maybe a very stupid question. But any insight will be much appreciated. TIA.
DandyMan51
10-06-22, 17:56
I try to be sympathetic in these situations but this time I just can't be. You took potential jailbait whose ID had been rejected by those who know more than you do, to your private home. That is dangerous on a level that you seemingly fail to understand. You need to go home. You are not ready for this.I am an idiot for all the points jj made and fully admit to it, but it was clear that the girl was not jailbait. The motel asked for everyone's ID, including mine. It is just motel policy and I have experienced it before in Medellin. The last time it was for a girl who was clearly in her mid-twenties who ended up taking me to her apartment and doing TLN. Do you ask for the Cedula of every girl you meet? If I had any doubt about her age, I would have sent her away.
Parasitius
10-06-22, 18:04
I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today. I can confirm that Jenni Munoz is horrible with a piss poor attitude. Since she was one of my first experiences in Medellin last December, she almost single-handedly convinced me to quit meeting girls. I think I gave 200 k and she kept making stupid comments like "what about a tip?" or "this is so boring no tip?
She is just obviously the type of girl we all wish would GET THE HELL out of the business. Hates doing it and makes you feel it every single second you're with her.
I am an idiot for all the points jj made and fully admit to it, but it was clear that the girl was not jailbait. The motel asked for everyone's ID, including mine. It is just motel policy and I have experienced it before in Medellin. The last time it was for a girl who was clearly in her mid-twenties who ended up taking me to her apartment and doing TLN. Do you ask for the Cedula of every girl you meet? If I had any doubt about her age, I would have sent her away.Look DandyMan51. Huacho's criticism was harsh, but warranted. JjBee62 gave you good advice too. Here is another thing you should know. Latina women mature fast. Girls who look like they have to be at least 20 something can be 15 why / o. Going with your "clearly in her mid-twenties" gut is going to be right more often than not and then there will come the knock on the door and some dude is going to tell you he is her brother and she is 16 why / o and he's going to the cops unless you fork over 1 million pesos. Or worse yet, a cop is going to show up for the extortion. Everyone thinks they are too smart to fall into that trap and yet it happens again and again and again. If they don't have a cedula you are far better off finding someone else.
As to booking a trio with 2 girls you have never sessioned with. Rookie mistake. Same as taking a girl you've never sessioned with on a vacation trip to San Andreas or Cartagena. Just a mistake.
Look at the bright side. You got away with your foolishness and it only cost you 600 mil (less than $150 dollars) I would rate that as a cheap lesson.
I guess half an hour is 30-40 K cop + 7-8 K COP for roach motel but how much is una hora?Depends on the girl, offer them 70 k and see what they say.
AmorPorFavor
10-06-22, 18:51
What a pain in the ass. I'm sorry you had to go through that crap bro. I've seen reviews of facebook girls on here and other websites. It might be work vetting potential dates based on reviews. I hope the rest of your trip goes well.Where else can we find reviews of FB girls besides here?
Every strip club is that way, although smaller than Hong Kong and different room arrangement. The facilities aren't as nice.
I'd start with Fase II and those close to it like San Diego, La Isla if you want to go for a bit of a drive, and if you want to be adventurous you can try Barre Ejecutiva and others in El Centro like Grille Nueva and Conejitas.Shit I would skip Fase II and La Isla, overpriced for not much value. You can always new / young girls at the El Centro 1's who look just as good but without the plastic / high cost.
Seriously? weather.com, accuweather.com, and list goes on with line graphs and bar graphs. Monthly, daily, hourly updates. Not hard information to find. Just check the hourly forecast each day for one week during the rainy season and that should suffice.The poster asked about rain, my suggestions where to always carry an umbrella and shut all the windows where he is staying among other things.
He wasn't asking about where to find weather reports, and if you think they are reliable they are not, as all the guys I know here always without fail carry an umbrella with them.
Looking at the weather forecast for Medellin will not suffice here, as it can rain anytime contrary to what a forecast says.
Hence I made no mention of checking the weather forecast.
Hopefully this makes sense.
Depends on the girl, offer them 70 k and see what they say.Don't do that, try no more than 50 K as the starting point if her rate is 30K for half hour. That is what I paid the last two times I went for one hour the past few months.
I guess you get what you pay for? I thought facebook chicks were 150 to 200?He overpaid a lot due to inexperience. I will say this to new guys. Skip anyone that asks for more than 200 until you gain experience or you really can't get one cheaper. It's true some hot ones want more. Higher price does not mean better, it often means they are more experienced which may not be a good thing.
Where else can we find reviews of FB girls besides here?This really begs the question why ISG has not broken Medellin out into sub-categories with a Fayboo section, a Casa section, a Centro SW section, Club section, etc.
No different than like other places on ISG which has sub-categories.
It sure would make things easier for guys specifically seeking information versus doing extensive searches and going thru pages and pages of reports and would greatly reduce all the RTFF posts.
I'm going to defer to the facebook aficionados about this. If you haven't taken advantage of the search feature yet you should.
Where else can we find reviews of FB girls besides here?
It's cheaper to take a break and pick her up again for another 30 K + room cost. Better yet, you can go with a different girl.
Don't do that, try no more than 50 K as the starting point if her rate is 30K for half hour. That is what I paid the last two times I went for one hour the past few months.
Don't do that, try no more than 50 K as the starting point if her rate is 30K for half hour. That is what I paid the last two times I went for one hour the past few months.Lowballing, I like it.
GrantGreen
10-06-22, 20:59
I'm headed to Medellin in a couple of weeks, and I'm excited as hell. I've been needing a good party, and to blow off some steam. I've been lurking here for a couple of weeks, and gotten some pretty good advice.
One thing I heard about here first, was tussi or 2 CB. I love psychedelics, especially quality needlepoint LSD. I've wanted to try 2 cb for years. But I'm paranoid because I'm all about quality / purity. Yet here in Medellin, it's become the party supply of choice.
But in reality, that's complete bullshit. As I read more, it's not actually 2 cb. It's a like a long island ice tea of drugs. They're mixing all kinds of crazy shit that shouldn't be mixed. Mdma, ketamine, LSD, ghb, meth, fentanyl, caffeine. Uppers and downers. But nobody knows exactly. And the narcos don't give a fuck about you. They want you addicted. And unlike real 2 cb, this stuff can be very addictive.
Ignorance is the only thing that makes sense, as to why anyone would do this shit. Sure, meth or fentanyl probably feel amazing. But we've all the effects they've had on people and the our entire society.
Vice put out a great documentary about it. It's definitely worth a 20 minutes watch. He even interviews narcos (or neo narcos) and shows a guy cooking it.
Here's a link from the Reddit 2 cb page, that goes into info about Medellin tussi.
https://www.reddit.com/r/2cb/comments/itwfwt/the_pink_2cb_aka_tucibi_tuci_pink_cocaine_what_we/
Make your own decision, obviously. But I think being informed is important. Especially when it comes to hard drugs. Apparently 95% of tussi that was tested contained zero 2 cb.
Honestly, it's a shame Colombians just didn't get into straight MDMA. That stuff is a blast. But like with any hard drugs, not something that should be done regularly or often. But you know what you're getting (especially if you get a reagent test kit). You know the short and long term effects. You don't even know what you're getting from batch to batch. Imo, that's a recipe for disaster.
There's a reason the narcos don't let their people touch it. Do you know who says it's okay to get high on your own supply? Weed and mushroom growers and LSD chemists. They started doing what they do, because they love the substance or believe in their medicinal / healing powers. This is a money grab wrapped in a pretty pink bow. A way to get premium dollars from cheap drugs. The tussi queen even says it's just good marketing.
Personally, I'm officially scared away from that shit. I won't judge. But I went from excited about trying something new, to scared as hell of it, without having to do much research. I highly recommend anyone that plans on using it, to get a reagent test kit. Because if they're throwing fent in there, it's inevitable that it's going to kill someone.
GrantGreen
10-06-22, 21:01
Where else can we find reviews of FB girls besides here?Try googling their WhatsApp number. I've done reviews on prepagos doing that.
GrantGreen
10-06-22, 21:18
Shit I would skip Fase II and La Isla, overpriced for not much value. You can always new / young girls at the El Centro 1's who look just as good but without the plastic / high cost.That's definitely way more up my alley. I'm not into the plastic, Instagram look.
Which strip clubs in El Centro are worth checking out? The Medellin map has a bunch of places listed. I've seen people talk about Barra Ejecutiva and Conejitos. So I'll probably check those out. But I'm curious about a few others. Here's a few of the ones I'm curious about:
Hilton Grill.
Grill Occidental.
Taberna Victoria.
Grill Nueva Avenida.
Palm Beach.
Taberna Montijos.
Night Club Lejano Oriente.
Ovo Whiskerya.
Do these strip clubs have actual dancing, or are they basically just like the Casas? Are they worth hanging out in after you've finished with a chica? If it's a day where it's non-stop raining, would they be fun to hang out for a couple hours, or strictly get laid and leave?
Lowballing, I like it.There is a caveat for 1 hour. One day Zona Rosa was full so we went to Botero Real. I don't speak Spanish so I told the girl to ask for 1 hour as we agreed and I also don't know if that is possible at this place because my friend had problem with them when he booked one hour. In the room, I knew what I paid was for 30 minutes so I had to renegotiate with the girl. I had to make sure she had the change and gave it to me before I handed over 50 K to her. And that makes an interesting experience. LOL.
LoveItHere69
10-06-22, 22:42
He overpaid a lot due to inexperience.Overpaying is a good way for the girls to know if a guy is a newbie (aka sucker). She throws out a high price. If he takes time to think about it she already knows she found her sucker fish and just needs to reel him in. If a guy takes the high price quickly that just means she caught a bigger sucker fish and acts accordingly which she did by bringing her friend along for a free ride on the gravy train. She found a minnow in the FB fishing pond. Keep trying but try acting like you know something by sticking to the 150,000-200,000 price everyone else is paying and is posted countless times here.
But no matter what there are times that no matter what you do you find a chick that just wants to cause endless grief whether she is street, casa, bar, FB, etc. Obviously this chick is a gigantic pain for everyone.
I had the misfortune of seeing Jenni Munoz today. She propositioned a trio and I liked the girl she sent pictures of so we agreed. She initially asked for 400 k each but I negotiated down to 600 k including taxi, OWO, kisses with tongue, and for the girls to have sex with each other. I didn't trust the girls in my apartment so told them to go to a motel near me. We went to the love motel but the younger girl (Mariana Sosa in FB) did not have a cedula on her so they didn't let her in. The girl had a picture of her cedula but the motel didn't accept that. This was strike 1 and I should have followed my better judgement and broke it off there. I decided that the girls look ok and that I can keep an eye on them so I brought them to my apartment. Inside the girls wanted to rush to take a shower and go to the bedroom. This was strike 2 and I again should have sent them away. Once they washed up, Jenni tried to get wet using a vibrator while I tried to kiss both of them. They gave peaks but nothing more. I could smell that Jenni was high. She made up some BS excuse about not being willing to do OWO on me and the Mariana gave me CBJ. Jenni then rode me while Mariana sucked my nipple. I ended up coming like this since I love getting my nipple sucked and I was holding in two days of leche. Jenni said we are done since I came and I told them that it isn't time yet so to give me a massage. She said they would after a shower. They take a shower and give me perhaps the worst massage of my life and I have gotten some pretty shitty massages. After a couple of minutes I just want them to leave. I give her 500 k and say that this is for the whole mess. She refuses and wants the extra 100 k. At this point I just fucking hope I never have to see them again and give them the 100 k and kick them the fuck out. It was an expensive lesson learned and I hope to never deal with this again. The only positive is that I didn't end up paying for the motel so I saved 100 k there. I ended up blocking her on Whatsapp and FB afterwards. She has 2. 8 k friends so chances are that someone here may have the misfortune of dealing with her and hopefully can avoid it. Fuck, I should have just gone to centro and I would have had a better experience for a much lower price. The girls are young (22 and 18 I think) but a complete pissing of pesos.I understand that this did not work out like you wanted. But if I understand it right you did have them both at your place, everyone got naked, sex was had. They did not do everything you wanted, true. But. Just because it did not work out fully the way you wanted, and even in a sense what you paid for, you can really cause the situation to get worse by not paying the full 600 you agreed to. When it comes to paying that is a risk you probably should not take. Even if nothing happens and you end up kicking them out it is often, or I would say almost always, best to pay, and write it off to experience.
PS.. Others may disagree with that I say here... feel free. Just my opinion for minimizing chances of a bad scene.
I guess you get what you pay for? I thought facebook chicks were 150 to 200?I think these days they're trending towards 200-250 k. However, the price agreed upon ultimately depends on which head was handling the negotiations.
For those who don't know yet:
When a girl quotes a much higher price than expected, don't try to figure out how high to make your offer so she'll accept. Instead, come back with the price you want to pay. For example:
"400".
"Entiendo amor, pero siempre pago 150 mil. ".
I understand, but I always pay 150 thousand (it's vital to get that "mil" in the conversation so you don't end up with a girl demanding dollars). From there, you can agree to add the taxi. If she gets offended, or starts whining and complaining you've identified someone who isn't going to be good in bed. Next.
I understand that this did not work out like you wanted. But if I understand it right you did have them both at your place, everyone got naked, sex was had. They did not do everything you wanted, true. But. Just because it did not work out fully the way you wanted, and even in a sense what you paid for, you can really cause the situation to get worse by not paying the full 600 you agreed to. When it comes to paying that is a risk you probably should not take. Even if nothing happens and you end up kicking them out it is often, or I would say almost always, best to pay, and write it off to experience.
PS.. Others may disagree with that I say here... feel free. Just my opinion for minimizing chances of a bad scene.You are right. You might get in trouble for not paying the agreed price. There was the infamous case of the US secret service agents getting caught because one guy wouldn't pay the girl.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-scandal-colombian-woman-describes-night-of-carousing-with-agents/2012/05/04/gIQAcwyi1T_story.html
Seems the Colombian police sided with the girl because I guess sex worker get some type of protection?
So I'm interested in a trio, but seems tough to find. And I don't want to ask a girl for the reasons in the post. If anyone has any suggestions or direct me in the right direction that would be much appreciated. I'm subscribed so feel free to PM me.
Trying to make this the most memorable expression of Colombia!
TIA.It's not impossible.
1. Evaluate every girl after the session. Was she on time? Was she clean? Did she present herself well (looking like she showed up for a date instead of looking like she spent the last 6 hours cleaning house)? Was she responsive, sexually?
That last one is crucial. You want to start with a girl who enjoys having sex with you. Many of them will fake it. Learn to spot the difference.
2. See the girl a second time. Take your time with her. Ask how she feels about women. Most girls will do a trio, but they won't do a threesome. If she's interested, explain what you're looking for. It's helpful to have a video clip on your phone showing how you want things to go.
3. Gauge her interest. Is she interested in the chance for more money, or does she want the experience? If you think she is really interested, ask if she knows someone to join you.
If you do it right, minimal direction will be required and you'll be happy with the results. I highly recommend taking the girls to a place like Motel Ibiza. It's worth the added cost.
Shit I would skip Fase II and La Isla, overpriced for not much value. You can always new / young girls at the El Centro 1's who look just as good but without the plastic / high cost.I agree they are overpriced, but disagree on skipping for a first timer. The strip clubs are both worth seeing in the same vein that so many guys think El Centro SW are worth seeing (which I personally don't). Casas, FB girls, and mileroticos are also worth a try until you find what best suits you.
I personally have found the Fase II and La Isla girls to be more attractive than El Centro (you suggest they're the same), but we obviously have different tase in women. I venture that the percentage of men that would actually find the Centro glue sniffing SW attractive is less than you think.
That's definitely way more up my alley. I'm not into the plastic, Instagram look.
Which strip clubs in El Centro are worth checking out? The Medellin map has a bunch of places listed. I've seen people talk about Barra Ejecutiva and Conejitos. So I'll probably check those out. But I'm curious about a few others. Here's a few of the ones I'm curious about:
Hilton Grill.
Grill Occidental.
Taberna Victoria.
Grill Nueva Avenida.
Palm Beach.
Taberna Montijos.
Night Club Lejano Oriente.
Ovo Whiskerya.
Do these strip clubs have actual dancing, or are they basically just like the Casas? Are they worth hanging out in after you've finished with a chica? If it's a day where it's non-stop raining, would they be fun to hang out for a couple hours, or strictly get laid and leave?Whoa. Now that would be a memorable day checking out all of those. Not sure that would be advisable. Some are hard to find. And some you may wish you had not found. Barra Ejecutiva and Conejitos are fine, and a couple that are very close to Conejitos probably reasonably safe. But the rest I'm not sure.
Which strip clubs in El Centro are worth checking out?
Hilton Grill.
Grill Occidental.
Taberna Victoria.
Grill Nueva Avenida.
Palm Beach.
Taberna Montijos.
Night Club Lejano Oriente.
Ovo Whiskerya.
Been to the first 4, never been the final 4. Would be interested to check them out thogh if anyone wants an evening of adventure?
All are worth a visit IMO. All have real people and real girls. You never know what you will find and what experience you will have. For me, it is the real Colombia, not the plastic ambition of Poblado etc.
There is a caveat for 1 hour. One day Zona Rosa was full so we went to Botero Real. I don't speak Spanish so I told the girl to ask for 1 hour as we agreed and I also don't know if that is possible at this place because my friend had problem with them when he booked one hour. In the room, I knew what I paid was for 30 minutes so I had to renegotiate with the girl. I had to make sure she had the change and gave it to me before I handed over 50 K to her. And that makes an interesting experience. LOL.Zona Rosa in the past has been for a few hours at a time for whatever the price is. Are you saying that Botero Real is now only renting their rooms in 1 hour increments? And if the room was rented for 1 hour, why did you have to renegotiate with the girl if what you paid for was for only 30 minutes and then you could cut her loose.
Sorry I don't understand what your saying here, no different than some of my posts as well. LOL.
GrantGreen
10-07-22, 03:43
I understand that this did not work out like you wanted. But if I understand it right you did have them both at your place, everyone got naked, sex was had. They did not do everything you wanted, true. But. Just because it did not work out fully the way you wanted, and even in a sense what you paid for, you can really cause the situation to get worse by not paying the full 600 you agreed to. When it comes to paying that is a risk you probably should not take. Even if nothing happens and you end up kicking them out it is often, or I would say almost always, best to pay, and write it off to experience.
PS.. Others may disagree with that I say here... feel free. Just my opinion for minimizing chances of a bad scene.No. I'm going to agree with you. The dude got into an argument with prostitutes in a 3rd world country, in a city that's dangerous as hell, all over wanting to short them $22 after he actually got laid.
That's how you get robbed, beaten, it even killed. You don't think those chicas know some hitters? They might even do it for less than you paid her to pay with your dick. Just because you're disappointed or mad, don't let that get you into a dangerous situation. Sometimes you got to charge it to the game. Best thing you can do, is sleep it off. If you're still mad, go to Centro and find a 50 k chica to feel better.
GrantGreen
10-07-22, 04:06
I venture that the percentage of men that would actually find the Centro glue sniffing SW attractive is less than you think.Are the SWers in Centro that fucked up? I was curious about how good they would look vs the casa or strip club chicas. I was definitely curious to check a few places in the map. But now I'm curious. Are they like American Street walkers? Because you pretty much only see heavy drug users doing that in the US. Anyone that's not completely desperate goes online (even then, you can find some trainwrecks). Hopefully it's not a bunch of scabby faced, petri dishes walking around. I love to party, but don't fuck around with anyone doing anything that may involve needles or lightbulbs (heroin / fent / meth / crack). Are there really a lot of chicas sniffing glue, or am I just exhausted after work and can't detect sarcasm / a joke?
GrantGreen
10-07-22, 04:17
Been to the first 4, never been the final 4. Would be interested to check them out thogh if anyone wants an evening of adventure?
2 weeks from today, my ass will be there. Considering it's 10 pm, I'll probably be getting laid. But I've got 10 days there. And right now, it's looking like some pretty shitty weather. But I'm used to shitty, heavy rain and pop-up showers (my dumbass thought it was the end of the rainy season, not the deaf middle of it l. So I might be down for getting adventurous and checking things out, with it without company (though someone with better Spanish than me is always nice). But obviously somebody's been there, since they're on WT'69's map. But again, things and places change. Sometimes for the bad, but also sometimes for the good. It's worth the roll of the dice, because at worst, you'll probably get a good story out if it.
DandyMan51
10-07-22, 04:52
After yesterday's experience I was very turned off to facebook chicas. I suppose just about any chica would have been better so I may have rose colored glasses as I share this report. Maria (I won't share her full name but as usual I am more than willing to share via PM for an active forum member) is smoking hot by my standards, about 5' 6', small waist, big (fake) tits, nice ass (big but not too big), 23 years old. She could be a model if she really applied herself. I think her facebook pictures have a bit of skin whitening on it but are otherwise reflective of her. She isn't a fitness girl but a couple of weeks in the gym and she could be. She only has a little bit of fat. I messaged her yesterday about coming at 6 PM today. I was a bit tired so I moved the time to 8 PM so I could take a nap, she was very friendly through the whole process. She arrived by 9 and we sat a chatted a bit. She works in a waitress in a club in Envigado during the weekends and makes 100 mil in salary plus tips per night so probably around 1200 mil per month including tips. She mentioned that gringos give way more tips which I found funny. She doesn't work anywhere else during the week (well, not including this) After the small talk about ourselves, our travels etc. , we went to the bedroom with some foreplay before I did DATY. She really seemed to enjoy my DATY (maybe she was faking it but it must have been really good faking). I joked that she should pay me to which we both had a laugh. She then gave me CBJ and we fucked in cowgirl, doggy and finally I came in missionary. Throughout she gave peaks but no full kisses. We sat and talked for a bit before she took shower. We then sat some more on the sofa and listed to some music and watched some videos on her facebook feed. Her taxi arrived and I paid her (250 k + 20 k taxi) for the two hours and kissed her goodbye.
Overall, it wasn't the most passionate service I had (Average of above average by Colombian standards but not on the level of Brazil in my experience) but it was pretty good and the girl was hot enough to work in gustos and try and charge 4-500 mil / hour. Outside of the lack of DFK, my only complaint was that she was on her phone more than I would have liked. She is a potential repeat for me which is why I am not publicly sharing her info.
BarrioSpinners
10-07-22, 06:18
You are right. You might get in trouble for not paying the agreed price. There was the infamous case of the US secret service agents getting caught because one guy wouldn't pay the girl.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-scandal-colombian-woman-describes-night-of-carousing-with-agents/2012/05/04/gIQAcwyi1T_story.html
Seems the Colombian police sided with the girl because I guess sex worker get some type of protection?I also think they get some sort of protection.
Recently there was a story on a FB group where this gringo dated a lady and on the line of "oh I'm too handsome and she's different".
No financial agreement was made beforehand. After the session she asked for money (around 500 o 600 COP I think).
He didn't want to pay the bill and girl obsviusly went nut and when the cops showed up they got the guy to pay something like 300 COP.
Which given the situation he put himself it's not too bad. I had sympathy for both the police and the girl.
Mr Enternational
10-07-22, 10:58
She mentioned that gringos give way more tips which I found funny.That is obvious from reading this board. People that travel frequently often bring this up, but Americans are conditioned to do it and seems some even get offended if you advise them otherwise. It is just in my countrymen to give money away willy nilly.
Welcome to MDE the city of passionless over priced sex. But Hi the weather is great!
After yesterday's experience I was very turned off to facebook chicas. I suppose just about any chica would have been better so I may have rose colored glasses as I share this report. Maria (I won't share her full name but as usual I am more than willing to share via PM for an active forum member) is smoking hot by my standards, about 5' 6', small waist, big (fake) tits, nice ass (big but not too big), 23 years old. She could be a model if she really applied herself. I think her facebook pictures have a bit of skin whitening on it but are otherwise reflective of her. She isn't a fitness girl but a couple of weeks in the gym and she could be. She only has a little bit of fat. I messaged her yesterday about coming at 6 PM today. I was a bit tired so I moved the time to 8 PM so I could take a nap, she was very friendly through the whole process. She arrived by 9 and we sat a chatted a bit. She works in a waitress in a club in Envigado during the weekends and makes 100 mil in salary plus tips per night so probably around 1200 mil per month including tips. She mentioned that gringos give way more tips which I found funny. She doesn't work anywhere else during the week (well, not including this) After the small talk about ourselves, our travels etc. , we went to the bedroom with some foreplay before I did DATY. She really seemed to enjoy my DATY (maybe she was faking it but it must have been really good faking). I joked that she should pay me to which we both had a laugh. She then gave me CBJ and we fucked in cowgirl, doggy and finally I came in missionary. Throughout she gave peaks but no full kisses. We sat and talked for a bit before she took shower. We then sat some more on the sofa and listed to some music and watched some videos on her facebook feed. Her taxi arrived and I paid her (250 k + 20 k taxi) for the two hours and kissed her goodbye.
Overall, it wasn't the most passionate service I had (Average of above average by Colombian standards but not on the level of Brazil in my experience) but it was pretty good and the girl was hot enough to work in gustos and try and charge 4-500 mil / hour. Outside of the lack of DFK, my only complaint was that she was on her phone more than I would have liked. She is a potential repeat for me which is why I am not publicly sharing her info.
Quick fact check from a Centro rat. I find glue sniffing Centro girls unattractive and undesirable. I agree I am not likely in the minority in that respect. Among Centro providers, glue sniffers are definitely in the minority. I have been to La Isla and Fase. I find those women attractive but I dislike the high proportion of "operadas" (surgically enhanced). Everyone knows the cost differential. It's not the concern for me but I am aware of it like everyone else.
It's not impossible.
1. Evaluate every girl after the session. Was she on time? Was she clean? Did she present herself well (looking like she showed up for a date instead of looking like she spent the last 6 hours cleaning house)? Was she responsive, sexually?
That last one is crucial. You want to start with a girl who enjoys having sex with you. Many of them will fake it. Learn to spot the difference.
2. See the girl a second time. Take your time with her. Ask how she feels about women. Most girls will do a trio, but they won't do a threesome. If she's interested, explain what you're looking for. It's helpful to have a video clip on your phone showing how you want things to go.
3. Gauge her interest. Is she interested in the chance for more money, or does she want the experience? If you think she is really interested, ask if she knows someone to join you.
If you do it right, minimal direction will be required and you'll be happy with the results. I highly recommend taking the girls to a place like Motel Ibiza. It's worth the added cost.
DandyMan51
10-07-22, 15:57
Welcome to MDE the city of passionless over priced sex. But Hi the weather is great!LOL. I'm also open to recommendations on better places to go. My go-to in Latin America is Brazil but flights there tend to be expensive and long. Plus the political situation at the moment makes me second guess going there. Feel free to PM me.
I just got a girl who wants an iPhone (of excellent quality), I assume the newest version. What does phone typically run in Colombia? I've seen a few threads talk about buying phones but not sure the type of phone or cost. Been a lot of girls saying they have no cell or their phone is broken. Haven't mentioned they want a phone, but I can read between the lines.
Want to see if that's a feasible and worthwhile exchange.
You make that bed you have to lie in it. The Secret Service mess is a great example of how valuable it can be to cut your losses and move on. I would be extremely shocked if the ex-Secret Service agents who lost careers and families disagree.
No. I'm going to agree with you. The dude got into an argument with prostitutes in a 3rd world country, in a city that's dangerous as hell, all over wanting to short them $22 after he actually got laid.
That's how you get robbed, beaten, it even killed. You don't think those chicas know some hitters? They might even do it for less than you paid her to pay with your dick. Just because you're disappointed or mad, don't let that get you into a dangerous situation. Sometimes you got to charge it to the game. Best thing you can do, is sleep it off. If you're still mad, go to Centro and find a 50 k chica to feel better.
.... Are you saying that Botero Real is now only renting their rooms in 1 hour increments?...It's 7 K when I paid. That's how I know it was only 30 minutes so I had to renegotiate in the room to reduce rate for 30 minutes. It's the chick's mistake that she did not rent for 1 hour when I asked her to.
What I am saying is I don't know if 1 hour is common in this place or not. My friend paid for an hour but was only allowed 30 minutes.
Been to the first 4, never been the final 4. Would be interested to check them out thogh if anyone wants an evening of adventure?
All are worth a visit IMO. All have real people and real girls. You never know what you will find and what experience you will have. For me, it is the real Colombia, not the plastic ambition of Poblado etc.Taberna Montijos is gone, unless someone has reopened it. It was located just a block east of Parque Berrio station. It was my favorite little hole in the wall in Medellin. Never saw a girl dance and it wasn't much bigger than my living room, but there always seemed to be 1 hot girl (out of 3 or 4).
That is obvious from reading this board. People that travel frequently often bring this up, but Americans are conditioned to do it and seems some even get offended if you advise them otherwise. It is just in my countrymen to give money away willy nilly.It is difficult to comprehend the value of money here if people are staying in the affluent areas. I have been wondering, what is the reason for the Facebook girl to start from 150 K, why not 100 K? Now many girls are conditioned to think like gringos instead of the other way around.
Are the SWers in Centro that fucked up? I was curious about how good they would look vs the casa or strip club chicas. I was definitely curious to check a few places in the map. But now I'm curious. Are they like American Street walkers? Because you pretty much only see heavy drug users doing that in the US. Anyone that's not completely desperate goes online (even then, you can find some trainwrecks). Hopefully it's not a bunch of scabby faced, petri dishes walking around. I love to party, but don't fuck around with anyone doing anything that may involve needles or lightbulbs (heroin / fent / meth / crack). Are there really a lot of chicas sniffing glue, or am I just exhausted after work and can't detect sarcasm / a joke?I don't think it was meant as sarcasm or a joke, but it's not accurate. Yes there are El Centro girls who sniff glue, or use other drugs, but, from my observation most of them just smoke weed.
Nope, stop doing that too. You know how many users PM me and I gave them intel and they can't even say thank you. It's like people want to get spoon fed intel. I'm going to start charging. LOL.
RTFF!
LOL. I'm also open to recommendations on better places to go. My go-to in Latin America is Brazil but flights there tend to be expensive and long. Plus the political situation at the moment makes me second guess going there. Feel free to PM me.
Hi all,
Are there strip clubs in Medellin where the girls do the nude lap dances at the tables?
Like the ones mentioned in the Bogota thread (http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=2742323#post2742323).
If so, what are the prices?
Thanks.
LOL. I'm also open to recommendations on better places to go. My go-to in Latin America is Brazil but flights there tend to be expensive and long. Plus the political situation at the moment makes me second guess going there. Feel free to PM me.Take it all with a grain of salt, although with some guys maybe Valium instead of salt.
The most I've paid in Medellin for 1 girl was just under $100. She works internationally modeling (frequent trips to Europe), stayed for 3 hours and was extremely passionate throughout. I've spent more on a few threesomes.
Overall, outside of the casas and strip clubs most of the women I've had in Medellin have been extremely passionate. If someone can't find passionate women in Medellin I can think of a few possible reasons.
1. They are not picking the right girls.
2. They're unattractive by the girls standards.
3. They have personal hygiene issues.
4. They're not taking the time or making the effort connect with the girls.
Quick fact check from a Centro rat. I find glue sniffing Centro girls unattractive and undesirable. I agree I am not likely in the minority in that respect. Among Centro providers, glue sniffers are definitely in the minority. I have been to La Isla and Fase. I find those women attractive but I dislike the high proportion of "operadas" (surgically enhanced). Everyone knows the cost differential. It's not the concern for me but I am aware of it like everyone else.Sorry you lost some whiskers not liking Sacaleros as a street rat. LOL.
The quality of the Sacaleros has declined over the years. About seven years ago before all the Vennies showed up, they would hang alongside the Museum. And there where some very pretty ones, albeit all being very thin. I know some guys who were into skinny girls that would go with them and pretty much anything was on the menu with them being so spaced out. I went with one of them and the stench was overpowering, like a heavy smoker with nicotine oozing from their pores.
I don't recommend them to anyone unless your into basically fucking a zombie.
ColombiaLover
10-07-22, 18:37
I'm not much of a centro guy. However, all SWers in centro are not fucked up. Yes, there are the glue girls. And yes there are some thieves. And yes there are some hardcores from the barrio.
But you can also find some girls who look good and who are nice. Sometimes it's a Venny who has little options due to her immigration status. Sometimes it is a poor girl who is desperate for money and heard about centro. Not all girls have cell phones. Not all girls have computers. So not all of them are on FB or instagram. The nice thing about Centro is variety. And low price.
Heck, I see a girl now who is just a normal girl. She lives at home with her parents. She helps around the house because mom has a job. She has no cell phone of her own, so she has to borrow one from her mom. She's not on FB or Instagram. I got lucky and met her through an amiga or an amiga. We all sometimes assume things about these girls that are to always true. There are drug users, there are scammers, there are hardcore pros, but there are also girls who work occasionally. As well as regular girls who do not work at all and just like to be treated nice and respected. The last category is harder to find. You have to invest the time.
Are the SWers in Centro that fucked up? I was curious about how good they would look vs the casa or strip club chicas. I was definitely curious to check a few places in the map. But now I'm curious. Are they like American Street walkers? Because you pretty much only see heavy drug users doing that in the US. Anyone that's not completely desperate goes online (even then, you can find some trainwrecks). Hopefully it's not a bunch of scabby faced, petri dishes walking around. I love to party, but don't fuck around with anyone doing anything that may involve needles or lightbulbs (heroin / fent / meth / crack). Are there really a lot of chicas sniffing glue, or am I just exhausted after work and can't detect sarcasm / a joke?
Take it all with a grain of salt, although with some guys maybe Valium instead of salt.
The most I've paid in Medellin for 1 girl was just under $100. She works internationally modeling (frequent trips to Europe), stayed for 3 hours and was extremely passionate throughout. I've spent more on a few threesomes.
Overall, outside of the casas and strip clubs most of the women I've had in Medellin have been extremely passionate. If someone can't find passionate women in Medellin I can think of a few possible reasons.
1. They are not picking the right girls.
2. They're unattractive by the girls standards.
3. They have personal hygiene issues.
4. They're not taking the time or making the effort connect with the girls.Your number # 4 is paramount as most of the women in Colombia can be passionate, however being able to connect with the girls can be very challenging for a lot of guys here given the language barrier.
Are the SWers in Centro that fucked up? ...?You read and believe information elsewhere from people who don't have experience. You need to keep an open mind.
Part of your answer is this. It is not hard.
I am always wondering how many chicks someone planned to fuck if they are complaining about the ugly ones, because I just look right past them. Does not concern me. Not wasting my energy on it. As far as I am concerned it makes my choice easier when there are only a few that appeal to me. I honestly do not need 10 good ones to choose from if I am only going to fuck 1 or 2.
PigSavinBoy
10-07-22, 19:54
The glue sniffer SWs are in minority, dunno, 5% or less, last time I've been. It's possible to snag an 'amateur' chica too, I remember one that got righteously indignated when I wanted to switch from missionary to doggy - - 'soy no puta! It made me confused for a moment. Could be true, her BJ skills were nonexistent and have not seen her in Centro since.
I just got a girl who wants an iPhone (of excellent quality), I assume the newest version. What does phone typically run in Colombia? I've seen a few threads talk about buying phones but not sure the type of phone or cost. Been a lot of girls saying they have no cell or their phone is broken. Haven't mentioned they want a phone, but I can read between the lines.
Want to see if that's a feasible and worthwhile exchange.Lots of girls want an iPhone of excellent quality. Are you intending to have a long term relationship with the girl? If not, why would you consider giving her something that expensive? For the same amount of money you could fuck her 10-20 times. If you give her the phone will she give it up to you for free 10-20 times?
I just got a girl who wants an iPhone (of excellent quality), I assume the newest version. What does phone typically run in Colombia? I've seen a few threads talk about buying phones but not sure the type of phone or cost. Been a lot of girls saying they have no cell or their phone is broken. Haven't mentioned they want a phone, but I can read between the lines.
Want to see if that's a feasible and worthwhile exchange.Iphone prices in Colombia are pretty much the same as in the US.
Don't fall for that! All girls say they don't have phones or they have broken phones. If you really want to buy this girl an iPhone buy her an used phone.
Litmus Smut
10-07-22, 21:48
Recently concluded my third trip to Medellin. All around a positive trip. The difference for this trip was socializing with fellow ISG members. Definitely worth it. I will do the same and announce my travel dates in the month leading up to a trip.
Thanks to Alaska1986 and Shank. Two really good guys with insight to the city, the philosophy of the game, and good life pointers. We kept with our call signs, which I appreciated. It made me feel like Secret Agent Man, added to the mystic and charm of the trip, but also dealt with the very real nature of what we are doing and our lives back home. A nice thing about them was the lack of agenda. It was a come-as-you-are, make-it-if-you-can-make-it feel. Which was akin to, riding up to your friends house on your bike, knocking to see if he was done with dinner, and then tearing up the neighborhood, or not because he had homework or had to sit for dinner. It was refreshing to have my own agenda to live up to and do things as a group if the timing aligned.
Also, they were not afraid to buy a man a beer.
Other ISGs were arriving as I was leaving, so sorry to have missed.
The "Negative" Note: La Isla. As expected, the Island was the most expensive single event on my trip. I went through 600 mil in an hour.
Entrance was 50 mil.
Beer was 30 Mil.
A shot of tequila was 80 mil, for the girl.
Girl was 350 mil.
The ride out was pricey, and my driver offered me coke. Jajaja. I declined.
The ambiance is not the best. If you've seen a video of the place, yeah, it is just a big room. Your only means of privacy is due to the music being so loud. Otherwise, everyone can see everything. Who you talk to and vice versa. I guess I got there early (10:30 pm), so it was sparsely populated. There's nothing sadder than an empty strip club, IMO. It did allow me to size up the girls easier, but I expected to kinda get lost in the crowd.
I found a girl with medium length brown hair, blue dress, medium-small tits, and nice ass. The girl on the floor that I took up to the room was nice when on the floor, as she waited for me to run to the bathroom, and on the March up the stairs up to the room. In the room, boom< I was on the clock. We did the full 30 minutes, but her demeanor turned a little colder, as in it was just business. It was not nasty or anything like that, but a noticeable change from smiles smiles smiles, touch of my arm, giggle giggle, to ok, it's sex time and you got 30 minutes. She was compliant in terms of the positions, but it wasn't like I put her in the Guatemalan Face Hat position or anything like that. Mish, Doggy, and a mild variation of doggy.
Ok, but older face once the lights were normal. Nice, but slightly smaller tits (those dresses to deceive). Great ass. Her butt to my pelvis was a delight.
The sex rooms were clean.
Once we got back, I saw a couple that were cuter so I felt I rushed my decision.
Would I go back? Yes, but not all that often. It was nice to see girls done up in cocktail dresses. I would want to slow it down and work the room better next time. I am glad to have popped that cherry and satisfied the curiosity, so no real regrets.
The main "negative" was the sticker shock. In USD terms, as Alaska1986 said, "for $150, you had a better night than in the States. " True. True. Keeping it in perspective of both the US and Colombia, cheap strip club night (better than anything I experienced in the States and all the money I blew on grazing a girl's tit with a buck), but I did miss out on 4 to 6 regular girls.
Mr Enternational
10-07-22, 22:27
Iphone prices in Colombia are pretty much the same as in the US.
Don't fall for that! All girls say they don't have phones or they have broken phones. If you really want to buy this girl an iPhone buy her an used phone.Well buy her a used Rolls Royce while you are at it. Remember when smart phones were for people that needed them to do real business? And the only people that could afford them were people that were making money with them.
I remember having my Palm Treo out when airplane mode first hit the scene. The lady on the plane made me turn my phone all the way off because she did not understand airplane mode even existed.
Now everyone has or wants these expensive ass phones no matter how much money they are making, and they use only 2 types of apps on them. Look at any of these chicks' homescreen and see what is there. The shit is fucking empty because they only use it for 2 things.
If you want to spend $500 for an uneducated, unemployed chick to take pictures and send messages (maybe listen to music too) then you are what some would call a new fool. Shit used to be for mfs that could afford it. As for me, I am not buying a chick anything that she can not buy for herself. What is the fucking point of being a broke mf in the hood with an expensive ass phone? But of course we know that guys will do anything when that pussy is held on the end of a stick and it starts whispering to them.
Iphone prices in Colombia are pretty much the same as in the US.
Don't fall for that! All girls say they don't have phones or they have broken phones. If you really want to buy this girl an iPhone buy her an used phone.She was very nice until we got to the "but you said you would give me anything". Which wasn't exactly true. She sounded like a high-end escort, most likely international escort. She was pushy and demanding. And ready to fly out to me.
Obviously I said no.
It's 7 K when I paid. That's how I know it was only 30 minutes so I had to renegotiate in the room to reduce rate for 30 minutes. It's the chick's mistake that she did not rent for 1 hour when I asked her to.
What I am saying is I don't know if 1 hour is common in this place or not. My friend paid for an hour but was only allowed 30 minutes.7 k was last year's price, it has since gone up to 8 k for 30 mins and its 16 k for an hour. It's not fucking rocket science to ask for an hour when paying for the room "quiero una hora por favor" versus "quiero un ratico" if you just want the half hour.
DandyMan51
10-08-22, 01:24
Take it all with a grain of salt, although with some guys maybe Valium instead of salt.
The most I've paid in Medellin for 1 girl was just under $100. She works internationally modeling (frequent trips to Europe), stayed for 3 hours and was extremely passionate throughout. I've spent more on a few threesomes.
Overall, outside of the casas and strip clubs most of the women I've had in Medellin have been extremely passionate. If someone can't find passionate women in Medellin I can think of a few possible reasons.
1. They are not picking the right girls.
2. They're unattractive by the girls standards.
3. They have personal hygiene issues.
4. They're not taking the time or making the effort connect with the girls.I appreciate your analysis. I'm not saying that Medellin is bad or too expensive, that's the other guy, and it is definitely in my top 5 destinations. It's just not my number one destination, personally.
In my case, I think the following:
1. My sample size is really low. I probably have had 1/100th of the number of experiences you have had, especially in Medellin. Plus I am probably too picky as far as girls' appearances go. I'm sure I missed out on many fantastic girls because of this, like the agency girl I called on this trip who I wouldn't have normally connected to on FB based off her actual appearance but who gave me fantastic GFE. I'm hoping if I continue, I'll be able to find some more.
2. Idk. It may also be that because I am relatively young, the girls judge my appearance more by novio standards rather than sugar daddy standards. Or maybe I'm just rationalizing my ugly ass.
3. Don't think so. I've never had a girl have a problem with this before. Or at least ever mention it.
4. Looking through your posts, I definitely don't make the level of effort you do. I would guess this is probably the biggest reason for the variety of experiences in Medellin. I feel like the girls in Colombia are rather shy and there is more effort needed to open them up to true GFE. My preference for Brazil stems from most Brazilian girls hardly being far from shy and being able to find GFE from casa girls and even some streetwalkers with little effort.
Iphone prices in Colombia are pretty much the same as in the US.
Don't fall for that! All girls say they don't have phones or they have broken phones. If you really want to buy this girl an iPhone buy her an used phone.Actually, I'd double check that. I'm pretty sure the new ones are 20 to 30% more in Colombia due to import duties and VAT. A couple of my favoritas have the iPhone 13 and they had their sisters (who have US visas) purchase in the US because it was that much less. If you're buying a used one, the pricing may be similar to the US, just make sure it's not stolen as they will often be blocked by the carrier.
And DO NOT buy a girl a phone. Very idiotic in my opinion to drop $1000, or even $300 on a phone for 20 year old girl that will break it within a week, leave in a taxi, or have it stolen while she's high on tussi. Also note that it sets an expectation for future gifts of similar size. And $1000 can buy a whole lot of citas jajaja!! My two cents.
MarquisdeSade1
10-08-22, 02:46
Well buy her a used Rolls Royce while you are at it. Remember when smart phones were for people that needed them to do real business? And the only people that could afford them were people that were making money with them.
I remember having my Palm Treo out when airplane mode first hit the scene. The lady on the plane made me turn my phone all the way off because she did not understand airplane mode even existed.
Now everyone has or wants these expensive ass phones no matter how much money they are making, and they use only 2 types of apps on them. Look at any of these chicks' homescreen and see what is there. The shit is fucking empty because they only use it for 2 things.
If you want to spend $500 for an uneducated, unemployed chick to take pictures and send messages (maybe listen to music too) then you are what some would call a new fool. Shit used to be for mfs that could afford it. As for me, I am not buying a chick anything that she can not buy for herself. What is the fucking point of being a broke mf in the hood with an expensive ass phone? But of course we know that guys will do anything when that pussy is held on the end of a stick and it starts whispering to them.Can anyone even try to articulate the "rationale" for buying an irresponsible 3rd world puta an Ifone? For what benefit? My guess, it will be stolen or pawned in less than 48 hrs, or probably more like 12 hrs, talk about labeling ones self a mark? Seriously WTF.
LOL. I'm also open to recommendations on better places to go. My go-to in Latin America is Brazil but flights there tend to be expensive and long. Plus the political situation at the moment makes me second guess going there. Feel free to PM me.I'm as big of a Brasil fan as you'll find. But you can't beat the convenience of Colombia flying from the US. Those are my two go-to countries. I don't think any other South American country is going to give you a better experience.
To get a lot of passion from the Paisas you have to work at it a bit more than you do in Brasil.
7 k was last year's price, it has since gone up to 8 k for 30 mins and its 16 k for an hour. It's not fucking rocket science to ask for an hour when paying for the room "quiero una hora por favor" versus "quiero un ratico" if you just want the half hour.I remember it was 7 K 7/2 this year. That is what I remember but that does not mean I am correct about the price.
Actually, I'd double check that. I'm pretty sure the new ones are 20 to 30% more in Colombia due to import duties and VAT. A couple of my favoritas have the iPhone 13 and they had their sisters (who have US visas) purchase in the US because it was that much less. If you're buying a used one, the pricing may be similar to the US, just make sure it's not stolen as they will often be blocked by the carrier.
And DO NOT buy a girl a phone. Very idiotic in my opinion to drop $1000, or even $300 on a phone for 20 year old girl that will break it within a week, leave in a taxi, or have it stolen while she's high on tussi. Also note that it sets an expectation for future gifts of similar size. And $1000 can buy a whole lot of citas jajaja!! My two cents.I knew right way it was a no as the thought of that exchange would result in losing out too much for just one girl. She's hot, but I know there are others. I wouldn't be coming to Colombia for a $1000. I can do that here and that's elite level escort. Of course I wouldn't know because I can't see myself paying that much for an escort.
I'm willing to take a shave and a hair cut on this one. The new sacalero row is the lawn on the near the north side entrance to the plaza across the street from the front of the Nutibara hotel. They sometimes mix among the other girls so you could cross paths with one unintentionally. Mostly the other girls shun them because they steal and they will accept very low sums to do any perverted thing we rats can come up with. It's a difficult combination to compete against. I try to be open minded but I actively avoid the sacaleros (aka princesas de pegante).
I remember it was 7 K 7/2 this year. That is what I remember but that does not mean I am correct about the price.
Sorry you lost some whiskers not liking Sacaleros as a street rat. LOL.
The quality of the Sacaleros has declined over the years. About seven years ago before all the Vennies showed up, they would hang alongside the Museum. And there where some very pretty ones, albeit all being very thin. I know some guys who were into skinny girls that would go with them and pretty much anything was on the menu with them being so spaced out. I went with one of them and the stench was overpowering, like a heavy smoker with nicotine oozing from their pores.
I don't recommend them to anyone unless your into basically fucking a zombie.
After yesterday's experience I was very turned off to facebook chicas. I suppose just about any chica would have been better so I may have rose colored glasses as I share this report. Maria (I won't share her full name but as usual I am more than willing to share via PM for an active forum member) is smoking hot by my standards, about 5' 6', small waist, big (fake) tits, nice ass (big but not too big), 23 years old. She could be a model if she really applied herself. I think her facebook pictures have a bit of skin whitening on it but are otherwise reflective of her. She isn't a fitness girl but a couple of weeks in the gym and she could be. She only has a little bit of fat. I messaged her yesterday about coming at 6 PM today. I was a bit tired so I moved the time to 8 PM so I could take a nap, she was very friendly through the whole process. She arrived by 9 and we sat a chatted a bit. She works in a waitress in a club in Envigado during the weekends and makes 100 mil in salary plus tips per night so probably around 1200 mil per month including tips. She mentioned that gringos give way more tips which I found funny. She doesn't work anywhere else during the week (well, not including this) After the small talk about ourselves, our travels etc. , we went to the bedroom with some foreplay before I did DATY. She really seemed to enjoy my DATY (maybe she was faking it but it must have been really good faking). I joked that she should pay me to which we both had a laugh. She then gave me CBJ and we fucked in cowgirl, doggy and finally I came in missionary. Throughout she gave peaks but no full kisses. We sat and talked for a bit before she took shower. We then sat some more on the sofa and listed to some music and watched some videos on her facebook feed. Her taxi arrived and I paid her (250 k + 20 k taxi) for the two hours and kissed her goodbye.
Overall, it wasn't the most passionate service I had (Average of above average by Colombian standards but not on the level of Brazil in my experience) but it was pretty good and the girl was hot enough to work in gustos and try and charge 4-500 mil / hour. Outside of the lack of DFK, my only complaint was that she was on her phone more than I would have liked. She is a potential repeat for me which is why I am not publicly sharing her info.Dude, this **** is worthless. A CBJ, forgetaboutit, a few peck kisses but no GFE, to hell with that shit, but being on the phone the ultimate kick in the nuts, when a girl is workin on my dime she aint going to be on the phone, tell her to put it away or leave. Terrible session, don't even think about repeating.
... It's not fucking rocket science to ask for an hour when paying for the room ....I can say pretty much anything just repeating what the translator tells me. LOL. The problem is to understand what the cashier might say after. I don't want to deal with the problem my friend had when he paid for 1 hour but only got 30 minutes. There was a long line of customers that day so I let the girl deal with it and she picked the hotel.
Remember the BBVA ATM fee? It was pretty common knowledge by that time BBVA was charging a fee starting from September. My observation was you reacted negatively like DM's information was wrong when he was correct. I gave you a way out for you to tell others what card you are using. I am telling you this just so you know how you could be perceived when not knowing you personally but I don't know if you care one way or the other and it does not matter to me.
7 k was last year's price, it has since gone up to 8 k for 30 mins and its 16 k for an hour. It's not fucking rocket science to ask for an hour when paying for the room "quiero una hora por favor" versus "quiero un ratico" if you just want the half hour.There are lot's of guy's here in Medellin that are dealing with the "challenges" of communicating in Spanish, myself included, so for Spanish speaking guy's like you, what transpired at the Hotel perhaps seems non-sensical. This is a perfect example of how valuable being able to speak the language is.
....I remember one that got righteously indignated when I wanted to switch from missionary to doggy - - 'soy no puta! ....It don't get more puta than that!
I can say pretty much anything just repeating what the translator tells me. LOL. The problem is to understand what the cashier might say after. I don't want to deal with the problem my friend had when he paid for 1 hour but only got 30 minutes. There was a long line of customers that day so I let the girl deal with it and she picked the hotel.
Remember the BBVA ATM fee? It was pretty common knowledge by that time BBVA was charging a fee starting from September. My observation was you reacted negatively like DM's information was wrong when he was correct. I gave you a way out for you to tell others what card you are using. I am telling you this just so you know how you could be perceived when not knowing you personally but I don't know if you care one way or the other and it does not matter to me.I proved with the pictures I uploaded that BBVA is not charging an ATM fee to everyone, as you pointed out by asking what bank I use, it most likely varies depending on your card whether or not they charge you a fee. Therefore DM as well as the common knowledge was incorrect because it had been suggested that BBVA charged a fee to everyone.
Also if you have to use a translator app to ask for "una hora" and then don't understand what is being said back to you, then you aren't ready for Medellin, go home and take a spanish class at your local community College.
And the price at El Botero Real has been 8 k /16 k half hour / hour since atleast February of this year. Maybe you should lay off the tussi or bazuko or whatever it is that you are on bro.
And you are correct, I don't care.
-Gabacho Out.
It don't get more puta than that!Obvio not a Latina either. ;-)
There has not been a lot of pictures recently so I will post some pictures of some of the girls that I saw on my first trip to Medellin. I had posted a mini trip report and I enjoyed my time in Medellin. There is still a lot for me to learn but I am slowly gaining experience in Medellin. All these girls were 18 years old and I checked their ID cards to make sure. They are all girls I found on FB.
AmoMedellin
10-08-22, 19:17
It don't get more puta than that!I feel it's an feminist approach, I just hate bring such politics into the sex.
I can understand that females feel suppressed in society, or more correct, did feel, today it's very equal in total.
My paisa friend Karen just told me her german boyfriend in medellin.
He treats her by the hair when they do it in the doggy stance, to make them more aggressive!
She loves it!
I can be too romantic, often girls want things much more than you think, it's definitely a few no's or scoldings to then meet one or a few real golden nuggets who really like what both really want!
NapataJohn
10-08-22, 19:30
I just got a girl who wants an iPhone (of excellent quality)
Want to see if that's a feasible and worthwhile exchange.https://www.mobile57.com/co/phones/apple-iphone-7-4081
Just a quick report.
Spent 2 weeks in El Poblado. On the way over to CTG airport passport control would not let me through unless I was wearing a face mask. Lucky I had a 10 pack, I ended up giving out a few to others on the line who didn't have. Same when boarding the plane, VIVA wouldn't let anyone board unless they were wearing a face mask. Gave some out there too.
The stupid thing is once on the plane almost everyone off their mask. And no ones wearing masks at all in CTG.
So keep a mask with you when flying just in case.
I agree they are overpriced, but disagree on skipping for a first timer. The strip clubs are both worth seeing in the same vein that so many guys think El Centro SW are worth seeing (which I personally don't). Casas, FB girls, and mileroticos are also worth a try until you find what best suits you.
I personally have found the Fase II and La Isla girls to be more attractive than El Centro (you suggest they're the same), but we obviously have different tase in women. I venture that the percentage of men that would actually find the Centro glue sniffing SW attractive is less than you think.I'm talking about the girls that work in the clubs not the SWs, those were pretty weak in quality when I was there a month ago. I'm not into plastic so the girls at the high end clubs don't really interest me, plus I find the girls in El Centro more down to earth and not full of themselves.
I don't do the glue sniffers, they smell like shit and look like zombies, no bueno mi amigo. But yeah if you want to blow some cash and feel like a big baller go hit up Fase II and La Isla.
Just a quick report.
Spent 2 weeks in El Poblado. On the way over to CTG airport passport control would not let me through unless I was wearing a face mask. Lucky I had a 10 pack, I ended up giving out a few to others on the line who didn't have. Same when boarding the plane, VIVA wouldn't let anyone board unless they were wearing a face mask. Gave some out there too.
The stupid thing is once on the plane almost everyone off their mask. And no ones wearing masks at all in CTG.
So keep a mask with you when flying just in case.Yes, I flew from Bogota to Medellin today on LATAM.
Talked to a flight attendant.
She said the government requires masks in airports, airplanes, hospitals, etc.
They seemed more strict about it in the Medellin airport to me.
DandyMan51
10-09-22, 07:11
Sometimes I really wonder where these girls get their gall from. This is the highest price I have been quoted yet. And no room for negotiation. Guess I'll stay a poor man using poor man's services. LOL.
BarrioSpinners
10-09-22, 10:07
Sometimes I really wonder where these girls get their gall from. This is the highest price I have been quoted yet. And no room for negotiation. Guess I'll stay a poor man using poor man's services. LOL.Yesterday from FB and Tinder 250 k, but on tinder I have found 3 non pro (investing really little time on the app): 2 asked for 150 and the funny one when I offered 200 went nut and told me she 's not one of those prepagos and wanted much more, she's at Uni and pays her studies this way. I didn't even bother to ask more.
Mr Enternational
10-09-22, 12:29
Sometimes I really wonder where these girls get their gall from. This is the highest price I have been quoted yet. And no room for negotiation. Guess I'll stay a poor man using poor man's services. LOL.What gall? The girl told you right. You are approaching her with business language. These are hood chicks, not business people. They mark their prices by what the last guy that came from a country where it would cost more gave them and nothing else. She would rather sit there and starve than to take less than what the last big spender showed her she was worth. How many taxis are these chicks taking when they are footing the bill? In Colombia talk that is like saying and send me a limo in addition to all this money you will pay me.
Sometimes I really wonder where these girls get their gall from. This is the highest price I have been quoted yet. And no room for negotiation. Guess I'll stay a poor man using poor man's services. LOL.One of my rules is don't accept Facebook girls who charge by the hour. Time limits are a distraction. If a girl insists on a time limit I thank her and say goodbye.
You handled it right. You gave her your price, came up to show you were willing to work for a compromise and when she didn't budge, nicely took your leave. I have no problem with a girl quoting a high price, and 350 k isn't especially high, but any girl who is unwilling to negotiate on any point is a waste of time. If she's inflexible in the negotiation, she's probably going to also have a bunch of rules in bed.
Also, the girls who claim it's going to be special with them, hard pass. That's an almost certain indication of dull, unimaginative, mechanical sex.
Sometimes I really wonder where these girls get their gall from. This is the highest price I have been quoted yet. And no room for negotiation. Guess I'll stay a poor man using poor man's services. LOL.Very business like interchange, yet with her firmness on the price she obviously is getting 350 K from other guys for her services. Can't blame her at all to sticking to her guns as that's her business.
And who knows, maybe she does things with guys and it's worth the 350 K to them, and / or can have all kinds of rules and be a total mechanical lay.
Yes, I flew from Bogota to Medellin today on LATAM.
Talked to a flight attendant.
She said the government requires masks in airports, airplanes, hospitals, etc.
They seemed more strict about it in the Medellin airport to me.Last week I flew out of MDE and the mask is required upon entering the boarding area's of the Domestic and International side of the airport, but not outside of those areas. Doesn't make sense as there's as many people outside of the boarding area's.
I remember during the height fo the Pandemic when you needed to wear a mask to get in the Terminal, I'm glad those days are over.
Alaska1986
10-09-22, 14:33
Thats more indicative of what parque lleras girl will start out at during negotations. Also depends on time of day and their relative need (some have other sources of income). And they know the dollar to peso is at an all time high.
Sometimes I really wonder where these girls get their gall from. This is the highest price I have been quoted yet. And no room for negotiation. Guess I'll stay a poor man using poor man's services. LOL.
Otro Pendejo!
I just got a girl who wants an iPhone (of excellent quality), I assume the newest version. What does phone typically run in Colombia? I've seen a few threads talk about buying phones but not sure the type of phone or cost. Been a lot of girls saying they have no cell or their phone is broken. Haven't mentioned they want a phone, but I can read between the lines.
Want to see if that's a feasible and worthwhile exchange.
Sometimes I really wonder where these girls get their gall from. This is the highest price I have been quoted yet. And no room for negotiation. Guess I'll stay a poor man using poor man's services. LOL.In my experience it's not that unusual for the more attractive and popular girls to quote that, especially if it's there first time with someone and they don't know what you'll be like (ie. Bad hygiene). Keep in mind that 350 k is $75 by today's exchange. You are also asking for 2 hours which throws some girls off. I think you need to evaluate the quality of this particular girls vs others. Maybe she's worth it, maybe not, but the prices are not all the same. If you have time hold to your guns and see if she comes around!
LionBacker
10-09-22, 15:49
In my experience it's not that unusual for the more attractive and popular girls to quote that, especially if it's there first time with someone and they don't know what you'll be like (ie. Bad hygiene). Keep in mind that 350 k is $75 by today's exchange. You are also asking for 2 hours which throws some girls off. I think you need to evaluate the quality of this particular girls vs others. Maybe she's worth it, maybe not, but the prices are not all the same. If you have time hold to your guns and see if she comes around!I understand your point, yet if he and other guys begins to give 350 K and the exchange rate goes back to where it was do you think the girls will start to ask for less?
Sometimes I really wonder where these girls get their gall from. This is the highest price I have been quoted yet. And no room for negotiation. Guess I'll stay a poor man using poor man's services. LOL.And based on her fotos, I'd rather FK a glue sniffer zombie en el centro for 30 k. Stay poor!
This is a very valid point. The official currency of Colombia is the peso. US dollar rates is irrelevant to negotiations with locals. Once you begin factoring in foreign exchange rates into your local transactions you are over complicating things and opening yourself up to illogical rationales to over pay. But anyone is within their rights to do so with their own money.
I understand your point, yet if he and other guys begins to give 350 K and the exchange rate goes back to where it was do you think the girls will start to ask for less?
LoveItHere69
10-09-22, 17:53
Sometimes I really wonder where these girls get their gall from. This is the highest price I have been quoted yet. And no room for negotiation. Guess I'll stay a poor man using poor man's services. LOL.That would come from the 2 week millionaires and the stupid idiots on this board who claim the two week millionaires have no effect. The ones that claim that there is no wrong way to monger and that it is their money and will spend it as they see fit. These idiots are going to pay for it when it is done to them in the future.
And based on her fotos, I'd rather FK a glue sniffer zombie en el centro for 30 k. Stay poor!That's funny, but your overpaying at 30 K for a Sacalero, but I suppose if you told them you want unfettered access to their body which is incomprehensible to me given their stench, but including barebacking them and blowing a load in them it might be 30 K but it really begs the question if they would even understand what you wanted even if you told them beforehand, and that's not based on a language barrier, but because they are so spaced out.
I know some guy's who have gone with them, some guy's even repeat with them, and typically say nothing about what is going to take place in the room, and then the guys just have their way with them as many of the girls are so wacked out and in such a daze they don't even realize what's being done to them.
Nothing like a good Zombie fuck. LOL.
Round the World
10-09-22, 19:09
Sometimes I really wonder where these girls get their gall from. This is the highest price I have been quoted yet. And no room for negotiation. Guess I'll stay a poor man using poor man's services. LOL.The sad fact is that these girls think they're worth 350 because some newbie or weekend warrior or "big" spender paid her that at some point.
I know for a fact these girls started in the business at 100 with far more liberal services than they now offer. Once they get more experienced, more mileage and professional they realize they can offer less and charge more if they target the inexperienced visitors.
Have some self-respect, like you did, and move on to the next girl when one gives you sucker pricing.
Parasitius
10-09-22, 19:32
Keep in mind that 350 k is $75 by today's exchange. I still have no idea why people talk like this. This is a theoretical supposition that Colombian girls are ordering stuff on an international market and therefore American money has some concrete significance to their lives. Do you think these girls are ordering Nikes off Amazon and paying import duties? Cause I promise they're not. 350,000 is a real number that relates to real prices found in their lives, 75 is some abstract concept about things that concern people who trade stocks and comodities.
350,000 is realistically $110 because that's what it will be as soon as the exchange rate returns to normal. Once they've tasted those amounts, they won't go back down. Never heard of any prosititution market anywhere in the world where a new price gets established and then falls back down in all my 20 years in the sport
DonCarlos1234
10-09-22, 19:43
I agree they are overpriced, but disagree on skipping for a first timer. The strip clubs are both worth seeing in the same vein that so many guys think El Centro SW are worth seeing (which I personally don't). Casas, FB girls, and mileroticos are also worth a try until you find what best suits you.
I personally have found the Fase II and La Isla girls to be more attractive than El Centro (you suggest they're the same), but we obviously have different tase in women. I venture that the percentage of men that would actually find the Centro glue sniffing SW attractive is less than you think.And so it seems. Although I have walked El Centro. There was nothing I saw of interest. Different stokes for different guys. Even La Isla has times where the girls are unappealing. I complained to them and they showed me the dressing room. It was 10 PM. The floor was boring, the dressing room was paradise. I wish they let me take a photo back there. LOL I stayed & waited for them to get dressed. By 12 AM the place was full. You just never know.
And based on her fotos, I'd rather FK a glue sniffer zombie en el centro for 30 k. Stay poor!She is nothing special at all. Kinda has a retard face. Or maybe she is fucked up on all her pics.
She is nothing special at all. Kinda has a retard face. Or maybe she is fucked up on all her pics.Very Plain Jane. A million other choices in the ciity at a better price, and equal or better looking. IMO. I bet she really appreciates us chatting about her.
I still have no idea why people talk like this. This is a theoretical supposition that Colombian girls are ordering stuff on an international market and therefore American money has some concrete significance to their lives. Do you think these girls are ordering Nikes off Amazon and paying import duties? Cause I promise they're not. 350,000 is a real number that relates to real prices found in their lives, 75 is some abstract concept about things that concern people who trade stocks and comodities.
350,000 is realistically $110 because that's what it will be as soon as the exchange rate returns to normal. Once they've tasted those amounts, they won't go back down. Never heard of any prosititution market anywhere in the world where a new price gets established and then falls back down in all my 20 years in the sportI'm going to explain this 2 ways.
1. When the exchange rate was 2000 to 1 the Facebook girls were getting 150 k. At 3000 to 1, still 150 k. At 4000 to 1, it finally began to move up to 200 k. After 2 years at or above 4000 per dollar, it's creeping up to 250 k.
From the monger POV, the cost at each rate was $75, $50, $50 and $63. That's over an 8 year span. Adjusting for inflation, even if it was at $90 the actual cost to the monger would be less than 8 years ago.
Has your cost for anything else dropped in the past 8 years? I just went to a place I haven't visited for 1 year. I ordered my usual. What cost $14 last year costs over $18 now. All the complaints about having to pay more for pussy when you're actually paying less seem silly at best.
2. Colombia is not some magical land where inflation doesn't exist. Costs have gone up, in some cases the increase over the past 2 years has far outpaced inflation. Every girl is spending more money just to maintain the same standard of living. If your income does not meet your living expenses, income needs to increase. In simple terms, 200 k today buys less than 200 k bought 2 years ago.
I won't try to speak for anyone else. If my boss was still trying to pay me what he was paying 8 years ago, we wouldn't be talking.
Forget about how what a girl is charging compares to what the typical Colombian makes. To begin with the number everyone uses isn't the typical or average wage, it's the government mandated minimum wage. How many of you are willing to suck my dick for minimum wage? Try getting a taxista to give you a BBBJ for 40 k.
The Colombian minimum wage has been a big issue for several years. Flat out, it's not enough to support a family. Why do you think most girls either still live at home, or share a place with several other girls? They aren't driving new BMW's and living in penthouse apartments. They're sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor, with no hot water and minimal comforts.
If I need to adjust what I pay to match inflation, I'm okay with that. If I have to pay more, I'm okay with that too. If I don't want to pay what a girl wants, I know how to either keep looking, or to go where it's cheaper.
The sad fact is that these girls think they're worth 350 because some newbie or weekend warrior or "big" spender paid her that at some point.
I know for a fact these girls started in the business at 100 with far more liberal services than they now offer. Once they get more experienced, more mileage and professional they realize they can offer less and charge more if they target the inexperienced visitors.
Have some self-respect, like you did, and move on to the next girl when one gives you sucker pricing.The sad fact is that people think 350 k is big money.
You know for a fact that the girls started out charging 100 k? That's a bold statement and false. Girls start different ways, for different rates, offering different services.
Better yet, what does it matter what price a girl started at? When you're negotiating with your boss for a pay increase does he bring up where you started at?
The indifferent fact (like all facts) is that each girl is going to ask for whatever price she feels comfortable with. Each girl is going to offer services she is comfortable with. Every time, every monger needs to decide whether to pay, negotiate or walk. Complaints and arguments are not going to change any of that.
If you don't want to pay, go play in a different sandbox.
I still have no idea why people talk like this. This is a theoretical supposition that Colombian girls are ordering stuff on an international market and therefore American money has some concrete significance to their lives. Do you think these girls are ordering Nikes off Amazon and paying import duties? Cause I promise they're not. 350,000 is a real number that relates to real prices found in their lives, 75 is some abstract concept about things that concern people who trade stocks and comodities.
350,000 is realistically $110 because that's what it will be as soon as the exchange rate returns to normal. Once they've tasted those amounts, they won't go back down. Never heard of any prosititution market anywhere in the world where a new price gets established and then falls back down in all my 20 years in the sportWhen Colombia was in lockdown with Covid19 and there was no flight in / out Colombia pussy price decreased real fast.
So in the end the price is up because Tourist are paying big money for pussy that's all. Without tourist they local narcos and business bosses couldn't handle them all.
So the price is what tourist are willing to pay. Keep in mind that the minimum monthly salary is now somewhere between 250-300 dollars.
And so it seems. Although I have walked El Centro. There was nothing I saw of interest. Different stokes for different guys. ...Try think about it differently. If you are going to have sex with a different girl everyday for one month, you probably can find a few of Centro girls to fit in. But if it is only a week, maybe not. You also need to get used to girls without makeup or bad makeup, and things like that.
I guess I know how you think. This reply is just trying to put some context into my perspective.
I proved with the pictures ...BBVA wasn't charging a fee to everyone before. DM is sharing information about the change in policy to help others.
...Also if you have to use a translator app to ask for "una hora" and then don't understand what is being said back to you, then you aren't ready for Medellin...I am posting my experience to share. I am guessing there are people like me so hopefully those information will be useful. Translator is irrelevant. I never said I need a translator to speak. You assume that. To me listening comprehension is much harder than speaking.
... go home and take a spanish class at your local community College....What makes you say that? Just because I share my experience? LOL.
DandyMan51
10-10-22, 04:04
I'm going to explain this 2 ways.
1. When the exchange rate was 2000 to 1 the Facebook girls were getting 150 k. At 3000 to 1, still 150 k. At 4000 to 1, it finally began to move up to 200 k. After 2 years at or above 4000 per dollar, it's creeping up to 250 k.
From the monger POV, the cost at each rate was $75, $50, $50 and $63. That's over an 8 year span. Adjusting for inflation, even if it was at $90 the actual cost to the monger would be less than 8 years ago.
Has your cost for anything else dropped in the past 8 years? I just went to a place I haven't visited for 1 year. I ordered my usual. What cost $14 last year costs over $18 now. All the complaints about having to pay more for pussy when you're actually paying less seem silly at best.
2. Colombia is not some magical land where inflation doesn't exist. Costs have gone up, in some cases the increase over the past 2 years has far outpaced inflation. Every girl is spending more money just to maintain the same standard of living. If your income does not meet your living expenses, income needs to increase. In simple terms, 200 k today buys less than 200 k bought 2 years ago.
I won't try to speak for anyone else. If my boss was still trying to pay me what he was paying 8 years ago, we wouldn't be talking.
Forget about how what a girl is charging compares to what the typical Colombian makes. To begin with the number everyone uses isn't the typical or average wage, it's the government mandated minimum wage. How many of you are willing to suck my dick for minimum wage? Try getting a taxista to give you a BBBJ for 40 k.
The Colombian minimum wage has been a big issue for several years. Flat out, it's not enough to support a family. Why do you think most girls either still live at home, or share a place with several other girls? They aren't driving new BMW's and living in penthouse apartments. They're sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor, with no hot water and minimal comforts.
If I need to adjust what I pay to match inflation, I'm okay with that. If I have to pay more, I'm okay with that too. If I don't want to pay what a girl wants, I know how to either keep looking, or to go where it's cheaper.Are the prices you are quoting for 1 hour or 2 hours?
I think the point is that in economic terms, it doesn't make sense to track Colombian prices vs the dollar. Inflation over the last 8 years has been about 50% so one would expect prices to go up by about that to 225 k from the 150 k they were back then. Colombians shouldn't be tracking US prices because they for the most part aren't affected by currency effects. Food, housing, education, clothes, transport all track with the Colombian CPI. Only import goods would be related to currency effects. This aligns with the prices I have seen on the prepago websites over time. I suppose if the market is saturated by gringos who don't understand this, then everything will track US prices which I guess would explain the same phenomenon in Lleras, Gustos, La Isla etc. Which are all dominated by foreigners.
Regardless, the point I was trying to make was more related to the sense of superiority this girl had. I know girls can charge and do whatever they want. But it really is something when a girl who likely, as you described, is "sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor" thinks that she can fairly call anyone poor. I meant it to be less of a complaint and more of a funny observation.
The price is not fixed. There were FB girls charging 250 and up before COVID.
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Regardless, the point I was trying to make was more related to the sense of superiority this girl had. I know girls can charge and do whatever they want. But it really is something when a girl who likely, as you described, is "sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor" thinks that she can fairly call anyone poor. I meant it to be less of a complaint and more of a funny observation.It seems the superiority attitude is new and more pervasive now. Some would say something like who told you I would leave my house for less than 250.
I still have no idea why people talk like this. This is a theoretical supposition that Colombian girls are ordering stuff on an international market and therefore American money has some concrete significance to their lives. Do you think these girls are ordering Nikes off Amazon and paying import duties? Cause I promise they're not. 350,000 is a real number that relates to real prices found in their lives, 75 is some abstract concept about things that concern people who trade stocks and comodities.
350,000 is realistically $110 because that's what it will be as soon as the exchange rate returns to normal. Once they've tasted those amounts, they won't go back down. Never heard of any prosititution market anywhere in the world where a new price gets established and then falls back down in all my 20 years in the sportThe exchange rate has been increasing for years, yet your saying ithat when it returns to normal the exchange rate will have dropped based on your example, yet what has been normal over the past years is the exchange rate has increased versus declined, meaning that what is normal is an increase.
In reality, Colombia is an anomaly compared to most other mongering venues. Because of the increased value of the USD and the ongoing increase in the exchange rate, mongering has actually been getting cheaper over the years versus increasing even factoring in for inflation.
Again Colombia is a unique market, not only because of the exchange rate, but you also have the flood of Venezuelans upsetting the market as well, and just about all of the Colombian providers despise them. Colombians have told me how much more lucrative the market was for them before they showed up.
And as far as Colombians thinking in terms of USD, with the exception of few, I agree with you as USD aren't used anywhere.
HappyShiva
10-10-22, 06:39
Anyone know any airbnb in Medellin laurles area. I am staying at San Peters in Laureles but the music until morning is killing me and cannot sleep at night. I am here for past 4 days and cannot sleep. I am looking for an apartment until October 15th. Thanks for your help.
And based on her fotos, I'd rather FK a glue sniffer zombie en el centro for 30 k. Stay poor!Interesting. When I searched her name on Facebook, I come up with 3 girls with that name who I have mutual friends with and it appears all 3 are P4P. One of them looks average. Nothing wrong with her. I wouldn't pay 350 k, but I'd certainly take her over a glue sniffer.
The other 2 are fairly attractive, although the most likely one (based on the price she quoted and the mutual friends, isn't my type. Nice to look at but not my preference for sex.
That would come from the 2 week millionaires and the stupid idiots on this board who claim the two week millionaires have no effect. The ones that claim that there is no wrong way to monger and that it is their money and will spend it as they see fit. These idiots are going to pay for it when it is done to them in the future.Complete and utter nonsense.
First, the two week millionaires aren't going through Facebook to find girls. If you're not worried about price you either go to Gusto or you hire someone to bring you girls. If she's working Facebook chances are slim that she will ever run into enough of those types to change her rates.
Second, I ran the name through Facebook. One of the matches comes up as a friend of a rather well-known provider of prepagos and her girls have long been insisting on 300 k or more. Chances are she's always been charging more than the average.
Finally, it will never affect me because I know the secret to success. It's quite obvious not everyone is ready to learn the secret to success, but I will share it anyway. Perhaps it will open a few eyes, or better yet, minds.
Ready for it?
The secret is drumroll.
There are other girls.
Amazing isn't it? It might take 15 minutes, maybe an hour, but I can always find a girl in my price range.
Of course there may come a day when every girl insists on 350 k. That's when you get to decide whether or not it's worth it.
Paid $250 for my first car, a 1967 Chevy Impala SS, body fair, interior almost perfect and a strong 327 under the hood. When it came time to get a different car, $250 wouldn't cut it. I didn't stop driving.
Are the prices you are quoting for 1 hour or 2 hours?
I think the point is that in economic terms, it doesn't make sense to track Colombian prices vs the dollar. Inflation over the last 8 years has been about 50% so one would expect prices to go up by about that to 225 k from the 150 k they were back then. Colombians shouldn't be tracking US prices because they for the most part aren't affected by currency effects. Food, housing, education, clothes, transport all track with the Colombian CPI. Only import goods would be related to currency effects. This aligns with the prices I have seen on the prepago websites over time. I suppose if the market is saturated by gringos who don't understand this, then everything will track US prices which I guess would explain the same phenomenon in Lleras, Gustos, La Isla etc. Which are all dominated by foreigners.
Regardless, the point I was trying to make was more related to the sense of superiority this girl had. I know girls can charge and do whatever they want. But it really is something when a girl who likely, as you described, is "sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor" thinks that she can fairly call anyone poor. I meant it to be less of a complaint and more of a funny observation.The prices I quoted are for a date. In my experience most Facebook girls will happily stick around if they're enjoying themselves. Most stay for 2+ hours (with me) and some all night.
150 k was the typical price and 225 k as an adjustment for inflation is right on. I think it's a bit over 226 k, but that's close enough. However, there have always been outliers. At 150 k I had several who wouldn't budge off of 200 or 250. I also had one who wouldn't accept less than 250 k accept 150 k once and 90 k another time. At the same time I found girls asking for 1 million or more.
If it's the right Vanessa Zapata she's one of La Vane's girls. Her girls were asking for 300-350 k 2 years ago.
Many girls are well are of the exchange rate. They know that everything costs less for us in Colombia.
DonCarlos1234
10-10-22, 10:18
Try think about it differently. If you are going to have sex with a different girl everyday for one month, you probably can find a few of Centro girls to fit in. But if it is only a week, maybe not. You also need to get used to girls without makeup or bad makeup, and things like that.LOL while it's entertaining to peruse the SW's and club girls. I do not need a different ho every night or even every week. Never have. Although the apatite might be similar I look for quality over quantity. Good memories over bad to mediocre. No bags to put over their heads. If they absolutely NEED makeup, nada! I am aware there are guys who try to bang as many as they can. A lot of them here, they don't know what they are missing.
LOL while it's entertaining to peruse the SW's and club girls. I do not need a different ho every night or even every week. Never have. Although the apatite might be similar I look for quality over quantity. Good memories over bad to mediocre. No bags to put over their heads. If they absolutely NEED makeup, nada! I am aware there are guys who try to bang as many as they can. A lot of them here, they don't know what they are missing.This is exactly what I've been saying many times here, but keep getting attacked. They just don't get it. Good for us, DonCarlos! Less competition, more nice girls.
Anyone know any airbnb in Medellin laurles area. I am staying at San Peters in Laureles but the music until morning is killing me and cannot sleep at night. I am here for past 4 days and cannot sleep. I am looking for an apartment until October 15th. Thanks for your help.Try Centro de negocios 3/33, but only the units facing south (Calle 32 f, not avenida 33). Girl friendly building, new and modern.
I still have no idea why people talk like this. This is a theoretical supposition that Colombian girls are ordering stuff on an international market and therefore American money has some concrete significance to their lives. Do you think these girls are ordering Nikes off Amazon and paying import duties? Cause I promise they're not. 350,000 is a real number that relates to real prices found in their lives, 75 is some abstract concept about things that concern people who trade stocks and comodities.
Outside of fresh food and fruits, Colombia imports an enormous amount of what it consumes. In 2020, imports were $45 B vs $30 B for exports. Of those imports about $22 B were from the US. This is an enormous balance in the wrong way for a poor country. Those imports are priced in USD (hence the importance of $ pricing as it trickles down to the end buyer, our Colombian chicas and their familes. Those imports include everything from soda (using corn) to many packaged foods, refined petroleum, and yes. Electronics such as those iPhones that the chicas love so much. While the girls are unlikely to know the current exchange rate, they do know that many of their purchases cost 10% to 15% more now than they did a year ago. If their cost of living has gone up it's only rationale that they ask for more. Colombia is not a self sustaining economy that makes everything it consumes.
Regardless, the point I was trying to make was more related to the sense of superiority this girl had. I know girls can charge and do whatever they want. But it really is something when a girl who likely, as you described, is "sleeping on a piece of foam on a concrete floor" thinks that she can fairly call anyone poor. I meant it to be less of a complaint and more of a funny observation.I don't disagree that the 'superiority' of the girls can be annoying, but note that a good number of these girls are solid middle class for Colombia and not sleeping on a 'piece of foam on a concrete floor. ' Of my regulars that start around 300 k, two have US visas and been there and Europe multiple times. One is manager in a bank, and one has her own small bakery plus Mazda 6 car (cars quite expensive here). Some of these girls are doing better than you think is what I'm getting at. Some of these things you can judge by their pictures, or communications, and then know how needy they are.
I'm going to explain this 2 ways.
If I need to adjust what I pay to match inflation, I'm okay with that. If I have to pay more, I'm okay with that too. If I don't want to pay what a girl wants, I know how to either keep looking, or to go where it's cheaper.Agree 100% with what you wrote. I think we all enjoy discussing the pricing dynamic here, pure capitalism, but at the end of the day it's much cheaper for quality and ease of access than you'll find anywhere else in the world (in my opinion). Yes, there's Asia, but I don't feel like a 24 hour trip and spending $1,500 at the moment.
HappyShiva
10-10-22, 14:23
Try Centro de negocios 3/33, but only the units facing south (Calle 32 f, not avenida 33). Girl friendly building, new and modern.I tried to send you a private message but your inbox is full. How can I book a apartment. Do I have to go through airbnb or any other websites?
This is exactly what I've been saying many times here, but keep getting attacked. They just don't get it. Good for us, DonCarlos! Less competition, more nice girls.Maybe it is because others perceive that you think you know what is the best for them when in fact what you are saying is what is the best for you, and the hint of superiority. I guess you are trying to share. I would avoid the negativity if that is the case.
Try google Watching Someone Elses Movie on an Airplane and read about it. It can apply to this context.
So DC says he does not need one everyday. My question is would he prefers it if there is one available everyday? My guess is there are not that many 9's and 10's (whatever that means) to go around. At least I don't see it for me so that presents another problem. It would be lucky for me to have a new one every week. That will be about 52 a year. You can adjust to any other length of time. The problem is similar assuming one is a monger.
JohnnyWalker55
10-10-22, 15:00
All the price discussion on here, rates and what not.
Reminder that the average worker at a normal job, waiting tables, working at a retail store etc. They make 35-45 k a day. 35-45 k. And that's considered "okay".
So the next time a vennie quotes you 50 k + room in centro or some alright looking prepago quotes 150 k for a session, remember. 35-45 k a day!
Spend what you like, but remember what locals pay!
Anyone know any airbnb in Medellin laurles area. I am staying at San Peters in Laureles but the music until morning is killing me and cannot sleep at night. I am here for past 4 days and cannot sleep. I am looking for an apartment until October 15th. Thanks for your help.Go on Airbnb and search. There are many in the area you refer to. Not much point in asking here because you have to go on Airbnb to check on availability anyway. And then, when you find places, check the rules to see whether guests are allowed, and before booking I would highly recommend asking the host about having guests.
To the original poster:
You will want to find a place well away from la 70 and Avenida Nutibara to avoid the overnight noise pollution. Be aware also of the problem with stick up boys on motorcycles who prowl the quieter foliage covered streets of Laureles at night. As long as you are aware they prowl the area you will be OK. Enjoy your visit.
Go on Airbnb and search. There are many in the area you refer to. Not much point in asking here because you have to go on Airbnb to check on availability anyway. And then, when you find places, check the rules to see whether guests are allowed, and before booking I would highly recommend asking the host about having guests.
LOL while it's entertaining to peruse the SW's and club girls. I do not need a different ho every night or even every week. Never have. Although the apatite might be similar I look for quality over quantity. Good memories over bad to mediocre. No bags to put over their heads. If they absolutely NEED makeup, nada! I am aware there are guys who try to bang as many as they can. A lot of them here, they don't know what they are missing.Or maybe they do know and aren't missing it.
I've been down both roads. I've done the one girl for a long time thing and the different girl every night thing. At different times in my life I've had different preferences. Same with body types. Tall, short, thin, voluptuous, each type has been my favorite at one time.
Each guy mongers in his own way.
AmorPorFavor
10-10-22, 18:28
LOL while it's entertaining to peruse the SW's and club girls. I do not need a different ho every night or even every week. Never have. Although the apatite might be similar I look for quality over quantity. Good memories over bad to mediocre. No bags to put over their heads. If they absolutely NEED makeup, nada! I am aware there are guys who try to bang as many as they can. A lot of them here, they don't know what they are missing.I usually find a good one to move in with me for 3 days or so. Love that morning sex sin condom. On a side note, I wonder what happened to Osteonot? I have a feeling that reality kicked him in the ass. My first trip to MDE will be in Dec. Its all booked.
I don't disagree that the 'superiority' of the girls can be annoying, but note that a good number of these girls are solid middle class for Colombia and not sleeping on a 'piece of foam on a concrete floor. ' Of my regulars that start around 300 k, two have US visas and been there and Europe multiple times. One is manager in a bank, and one has her own small bakery plus Mazda 6 car (cars quite expensive here). Some of these girls are doing better than you think is what I'm getting at. Some of these things you can judge by their pictures, or communications, and then know how needy they are.Define "a good number. " What percentage of prostitutes in Colombia have a US visa, own a car and manage banks, or own successful businesses?
I'll do you one better. My 1 regular has a US visa, has a car and her family owns property in Envigado, Medellin and Guatape. Both her and her sister have traveled often, although not yet to Europe. She spent much of the summer with me in the US and I've never paid her for sex (which would be much cheaper).
But those aren't typical Colombian prostitutes. Those are middle class girls who understand the advantages of fucking gringos. The typical hooker isn't from an estrato 4 neighborhood, estrato 2 at best. They own very little and live poorly.
Go out and find a girl working the street in El Centro, or in one of the casas who has a car, US visa and lives in a middle class neighborhood.
MarquisdeSade1
10-10-22, 18:58
That's funny, but your overpaying at 30 K for a Sacalero, but I suppose if you told them you want unfettered access to their body which is incomprehensible to me given their stench, but including barebacking them and blowing a load in them it might be 30 K but it really begs the question if they would even understand what you wanted even if you told them beforehand, and that's not based on a language barrier, but because they are so spaced out.
I know some guy's who have gone with them, some guy's even repeat with them, and typically say nothing about what is going to take place in the room, and then the guys just have their way with them as many of the girls are so wacked out and in such a daze they don't even realize what's being done to them.
Nothing like a good Zombie fuck. LOL.Halloween treats for all you Centro rats LMAO.
Bon Appe'tit.
All the price discussion on here, rates and what not.
Reminder that the average worker at a normal job, waiting tables, working at a retail store etc. They make 35-45 k a day. 35-45 k. And that's considered "okay".
So the next time a vennie quotes you 50 k + room in centro or some alright looking prepago quotes 150 k for a session, remember. 35-45 k a day!
Spend what you like, but remember what locals pay!And that matters in what way?
The average US hourly wage is around $11 per hour. After taxes that's about $60 per day. It's hard to find reasonable pussy in the US for under $200 per hour. If she's under 25 and under 125 pounds, kick that up to $400. If she's pretty, $500 and up. Even $1000 is not uncommon.
Using your logic, starting price for pussy in Colombia should be 120-150 k for the chubby, older or uglier girls, 240-300 k for the decent girls and around 400 k for the pretty ones.
I'll say it again. Approach the typical Colombian working a typical job and offer them 35 k to fuck you and let us know how that works for you.
I have been to Medellin every month since I turned 60 years in 2021.
I will be there on the 18th.
For some of you Americans and Europeans you are from first countries visiting a third world country to fuck third world putas.
And here you you talking about women have visas to travel.
Most people from third world countries that have visas do not return to their countries.
So I say it's bullshit that some guys are banging chick's that travel.
A lot of liars are here on the board.
That's why if I have to do a report here I will not.
It's you paid too much.
I spend my money how I want to.
I live in Guyana it's third world.
I travel every month to Canada for 2 days the to Medellin for 4 or 5 days.
Colombia is so fucking cheap.
I like to drink and party on LA 70.
I have a ton of local girls that's strata 3 and 4.
I treat them like people they like to drink Baileys.
It only 110 mil pesos. Thats only another 28 dollars.
Everything here is about their girls are lawyers, doctors from very rich families.
Did they take these gringos to meet parents and spend time at their homes.
The real loosers here are you first world countries Boys. No one forced you to go to Colombia.
But complains about their systems.
Oh their late. Or Immigration takes to long.
Well just fucking stay home and you get all the first treatment you whiners.
Sureman.
All the price discussion on here, rates and what not.
Reminder that the average worker at a normal job, waiting tables, working at a retail store etc. They make 35-45 k a day. 35-45 k. And that's considered "okay".
So the next time a vennie quotes you 50 k + room in centro or some alright looking prepago quotes 150 k for a session, remember. 35-45 k a day!
Spend what you like, but remember what locals pay!In America they make about 100 dollars per day.
But do you pay 100 for 8 hours with a escorts in America.
So shut the fuck up about what locals make.
You guys are really cheap.
Can't you guys just enjoy your vacation.
Everyone is an expert here.
Sureman.
Outside of fresh food and fruits, Colombia imports an enormous amount of what it consumes. In 2020, imports were $45 B vs $30 B for exports. Of those imports about $22 B were from the US. This is an enormous balance in the wrong way for a poor country. Those imports are priced in USD (hence the importance of $ pricing as it trickles down to the end buyer, our Colombian chicas and their familes. Those imports include everything from soda (using corn) to many packaged foods, refined petroleum, and yes. Electronics such as those iPhones that the chicas love so much. While the girls are unlikely to know the current exchange rate, they do know that many of their purchases cost 10% to 15% more now than they did a year ago. If their cost of living has gone up it's only rationale that they ask for more. Colombia is not a self sustaining economy that makes everything it consumes.It's the same as America have an enormous trade imbalance with China and Japan.
So your theory do not hold up.
Sureman.
In America they make about 100 dollars per day.
But do you pay 100 for 8 hours with a escorts in America.
So shut the fuck up about what locals make.
You guys are really cheap.
Can't you guys just enjoy your vacation.
Everyone is an expert here.
Sureman.How much are the girls in Guyana going for?
Mr Enternational
10-10-22, 23:48
Most people from third world countries that have visas do not return to their countries. So I say it's bullshit that some guys are banging chick's that travel.
"Surely" you did not mean to write this because there are planeloads of people everyday that prove you wrong. And just because people are from a third world country does not mean they are living hand to mouth and can not afford to travel at least once in a blue moon. I have an exgirlfriend in a third world country who is a partner in an international accounting firm. She drives a Mercedes and just got back from Italy. She traveled to the USA just to get a covid vaccine when they first came out because in her country there was a waiting list where certain demographics had priority. Hell, while I was waiting in line at the phone store in her country even the girl that was monitoring the line had a US covid card around her neck. She said that she had also traveled there for the shot. But according to you she did not return to the third world country she is from.
MarquisdeSade1
10-11-22, 00:32
Maybe it is because others perceive that you think you know what is the best for them when in fact what you are saying is what is the best for you, and the hint of superiority. I guess you are trying to share. I would avoid the negativity if that is the case.
Try google Watching Someone Elses Movie on an Airplane and read about it. It can apply to this context.
So DC says he does not need one everyday. My question is would he prefers it if there is one available everyday? My guess is there are not that many 9's and 10's (whatever that means) to go around. At least I don't see it for me so that presents another problem. It would be lucky for me to have a new one every week. That will be about 52 a year. You can adjust to any other length of time. The problem is similar assuming one is a monger.The hint of superiority.
I will preface what I am writing may or may not apply to you MB? I don't know you and have never met you so I don't know anything about you.
But to this point, "the hint of superiority".
IMO people that overpay for things, (ok lets be honest its mostly women that do that, but lets not give men a total free pass).
Do so for a reason, IMO its because they delude themselves into thinking it makes them superior to others.
Ironically I believe it makes them intellectually inferior LOL.
Arrogance is a mask the inferior wear with excessive pride.
MDS 10.10. 2022.
And this is why I don't go the 'Jean.
That would come from the 2 week millionaires and the stupid idiots on this board who claim the two week millionaires have no effect. The ones that claim that there is no wrong way to monger and that it is their money and will spend it as they see fit. These idiots are going to pay for it when it is done to them in the future.
Paying more does not make you look like a Baller. In her eyes it makes you look like a pendejo. Trust me when I tell you that these women talk and they have groups about foreigner man.
Do you guys want to know what race they talk about that spends more and they don't respect?
Conick2000
10-11-22, 00:49
Paying more does not make you look like a Baller. In her eyes it makes you look like a pendejo. Trust me when I tell you that these women talk and they have groups about foreigner man.
Do you guys want to know what race they talk about that spends more and they don't respect?Yeah I want to know. What race?
I have been to Medellin every month since I turned 60 years in 2021.
I will be there on the 18th.
For some of you Americans and Europeans you are from first countries visiting a third world country to fuck third world putas.
And here you you talking about women have visas to travel.
Most people from third world countries that have visas do not return to their countries.
So I say it's bullshit that some guys are banging chick's that travel.
A lot of liars are here on the board.
That's why if I have to do a report here I will not.
It's you paid too much.
I spend my money how I want to.
I live in Guyana it's third world.
I travel every month to Canada for 2 days the to Medellin for 4 or 5 days.
Colombia is so fucking cheap.
I like to drink and party on LA 70.
I have a ton of local girls that's strata 3 and 4.
I treat them like people they like to drink Baileys.
It only 110 mil pesos. Thats only another 28 dollars.
Everything here is about their girls are lawyers, doctors from very rich families.
Did they take these gringos to meet parents and spend time at their homes.
The real loosers here are you first world countries Boys. No one forced you to go to Colombia.
But complains about their systems.
Oh their late. Or Immigration takes to long.
Well just fucking stay home and you get all the first treatment you whiners.
Sureman.I guess it's not just the US. A lot of US men, once they reach 60 seem to get pissed off about everything. Is it like that in Guyana, or is it just you?
I've only spent 2 weeks in Colombia since I turned 60. Hoping to squeeze in another 2 weeks before the end of the year. I travel to Canada too. Haven't been for the past year, but for the rest of the year (and probably the next few years) I'll be there twice a week.
Everything in Colombia is so cheap. While I certainly enjoy fucking the women, I go there for much more. I have no complaints about immigration, about girls being late or about Colombian systems. I've paid for services in Colombia (electric, gas, sewage, cable) and used their medical services. I was reasonably impressed by both.
Lots of Colombian girls travel. At any given time I have girls on my Facebook friend list who are in at least 3 different countries. Mexico, Spain and the Dominican Republic, along with Panama are all common destinations. Often they are traveling to work as prostitutes elsewhere. Some are models traveling for work. Many find guys who want to take them out of Colombia for a vacation.
Of course most of those girls are traveling to countries where no visa is required. I currently know only 4 Colombian women who have US visas. Only 1 has been in my bed, although 1 has been waiting for the invitation. Both of those girls got their visas because they belonged to teams which competed in the US. It's a combination B1 and B2 visa which allows tourism, competition and attending business conferences. It doesn't allow them to work in the US and their maximum stay is 6 months (although immigration can shorten that or even refuse entry).
The other 2 women, 1 is from a very wealthy family and spent 2 years studying in the US. She's not a puta, is married and owns a successful business. The last one has long been a top webcam model. She owns property in Medellin and travels to the US for adult expos. She was my neighbor for 10 months when I lived in Medellin. Both are just friends.
The first girl I mentioned is my girlfriend. Twice I've paid for her tickets to come and visit me. The first time she stayed for 6 days while I took a mini vacation. The second time the plan was for her to stay almost 5 months and return to Colombia for Christmas. Unfortunately, US immigration decided she could only stay 7 weeks.
I also spend my money how I want to. I'm pretty sure that's true of everyone here.
Attached is a view from the top of Willis Tower in Chicago. Unless you want to claim I somehow snuck a 108 story skyscraper into Colombia (along with Lake Michigan and downtown Chicago), you might want to accept that some guys know some girls with US visas.
And this is why I don't go the 'Jean.Because some clown who knows next to nothing is constantly complaining about some non-existent problem? Damn that sucks. Don't start reading restaurant reviews because you'll have to stop eating out. There are always fools bitchin about ridiculous crap.
Paying more does not make you look like a Baller. In her eyes it makes you look like a pendejo. Trust me when I tell you that these women talk and they have groups about foreigner man.
Do you guys want to know what race they talk about that spends more and they don't respect?Ah. So we're supposed to be fucking hookers in order to earn their respect? I wish someone would have explained that to me 42 years ago. All this time I've been thinking I was fucking them because I wanted pussy and didn't want to work to get it.
Can you tell me how much that respect is worth? If I'm trying to buy a house, can I put down "Respected by Colombian Hookers" as an asset? What section of my resume should that go under? Can it at least get me a 10% discount at Denny's?
Yep, the girls all talk to each other. And do you know what they do after they find out some white gringo paid one of them more than they usually get? They message the guy and try to get in on the action. Know what they do when they learn about a guy who pays the minimum and expects the maximum? They message the guys who pay more.
This might be news to you. Girls who are selling pussy aren't doing it to find guys they can respect. They're doing it to get paid. If they can get paid more for the same job, they aren't turning it down because they'd rather respect some stranger than have money. The respect has a lot more to do with how you treat them.
Now I'm not suggesting anyone should go out and pay more. Pay whatever you're comfortable with that gets you what you want. However, if you're sitting alone because you're worried that paying more than someone else will lose you the respect of prostitutes, you might want to skip the mongering.
DandyMan51
10-11-22, 04:16
After some trouble scheduling with FB Chicas, I decided to go with my tried and true, mileroticos. She was very responsive with texting and I headed over to her place near the Estadio metro after taking a quick shower. She met me outside at the entrance. She is a taller and curvier girl but by no means fat. There are two other girls living in the apartment but they aren't remotely as attractive, more of the stuff you would see in centro. She insists that I pay before the service which I am ok with because she has positive reviews online. We start with some pecks and groping after which she cleans off my dick to do OWO. After a bit we move to cowgirl. Cowgirl is a bit difficult since she is a bit bigger and the condom ends up getting stuck inside her. We switch to a new condom and do some missionary and doggystyle. I am about to cum and tell her I want CIM. She moves to give me more OWO. I am not someone who cums easily through oral but to her credit she stayed at it for almost 10 minutes until I came. She sucked me dry and went to the shower to clean up as I dressed up. She had a very good attitude throughout which I was happy with. She also does just about anything for a price (anal, trios, TLN). Total damage 160 (130 for the hour, 30 for CIM).
Her link if anyone is interested: https: co. Mileroticos. Com / escorts / andrea-joven-paisa-con-el-mejor-servicio-dejate-seducirte-por-mis-encantos /23674834/.
MaddTraveler
10-11-22, 04:48
Paying more does not make you look like a Baller. In her eyes it makes you look like a pendejo. Trust me when I tell you that these women talk and they have groups about foreigner man.
Do you guys want to know what race they talk about that spends more and they don't respect?Once in a while I see these sneaky racist posts and I'm not sure why admin allows them. Racists always want others to be racists. So I guess you've fucked 99% of the Millions of girls in medellin and you know what they ALL prefer, you're part of their clubs. Cause I'm sure you wouldn't dare posting this just cause you've chatted with 2 or 3 chicken heads or street rats and suddenly you assume they speak for millions. Man, a I guess an occasional good pussy make some of us sing songs, see colors and everything eh!!
So don't be a pussy, say what you want to say, say the race you want to call out or what you think you know or just stfu. This shouldn't even be a topic you partake w putas. Putas will tell gringo 1/ race1 that he's her favorite, he'll meet gringo 2/ race 2 and say the same. We all know this game. Even even if. Or if and only if racism and discrimination exists between wg / pornstars, etc. This still aint the place or hint or to bring it up. Drop that silly superiority complex. You're paying for pussy like everyone else w your "preferred race".
MaddTraveler
10-11-22, 05:22
I don't know why some dudes come on here posting crap like Oh look at me I'm the man, she favors me, she prefers my race, my money's better. Man some of yall need therapy. I mean I get it, your whole life was deprived from getting laid and it caused some mental instability, but now that you're getting some, just chill and act mature like you're getting some. Congrats you're no longer a virgin LOL.
No one likes bragging dudes who gets pussy, from high school to later yrs. So imagine now in 50's, 60's, still comparing who gets what? While you actually paid? That's the lamest shit that goes on in here. It's like a bunch of earth worms trying a basketball dunking contest and few thinks they got game cause they're more shiny -- like just go lay down somewhere, and be happy you're alive you worms LOL. Seriously.
I swear I have a blind and crippled squirrel from my backyard that can pick up the same putas you all pick up in el centro. No it wasnt your game, your eye color, and HELL NO she didn't think your fat belly means you eat good and that made you attractive LOL. It was your money. Again a near death ill rabbit can do the same LOL. Just stop it.
Let the fuckery continue.
BootyBandit84
10-11-22, 07:16
In America they make about 100 dollars per day.
But do you pay 100 for 8 hours with a escorts in America.
So shut the fuck up about what locals make.
You guys are really cheap.
Can't you guys just enjoy your vacation.
Everyone is an expert here.
Sureman.I have to agree that all this bitching about who pays too much or too little doesn't help anyone. I didn't know it but I guess I'm one of the two week millionaire haha (wish I was in real life too but I'm not) .
Though I fail to see what it matters to anyone if I pay my girls an extra 50 k or 100 k if I feel like it. I have been to centro once on my first visit and only because Jjbee62 was cool enough to give me tour of the city. Never been to a casa either, and even though I have been to LLeras I have never pulled the trigger on any girl there. I exclusively use FB and insta or girls recommended by the girls I already know. So I don't believe that what I pay affects anyone that doesn't use FB or insta. And in the very unlikely chance that it does somehow, I'm sorry but I don't really care a whole lot.
My vacation time is very limited during the year. I can go maybe 3 or 4 times a year if I'm luck and only for about a week or two at a time. So when I go down there I'm not worried about spending and extra 10 or 20 bucks on girl I want to see, when I want to see her. Money I have, time is another matter.
I maybe a pendejo but not one that has any problems getting the girls I see to drop everything they are doing and coming to see me ASAP when I'm in town. I don't get ignored or blown off like crazy like some of my buddies that try to be more frugal when they visit.
Yes I spend more money than my buddies but an extra 500 dollars every few months is not going to lose me any sleep. I know some can't afford to pay extra and that's fine. Some can but don't want to and that's fine too. I can't afford a million dollar house in CA so I got a cheaper one somewhere else.
There are thousands of hot girls that will see you for your price, maybe not the 20 or so that I see on the regular but I don't think anyone's bed will be empty on my account.
If the girls are quoting you higher prices than you want to pay, find other ones that won't. Real simple.
Parasitius
10-11-22, 08:16
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So shut the fuck up about what locals make.
You guys are really cheap.
Can't you guys just enjoy your vacation.
Can't you see the irony in the comment?
First of all, you assume we're on vacation. Wow so you're budgeting for a 7 day trip maybe and assuming we don't need to spend 30 days per month, 365 days a year, because we actually LIVE here. Changes things a bit, huh?
Second of all, you call us cheap. This assumes that someone who moved or retired in a country with a very comfortable budget wasn't rational to have done so. Rather, he should have instead moved to Colombia but budgeted for America just so he could meet your expectations of "not being cheap".
And finally, would it not be a fair response to say, that since you're not at all price sensitive, why can't you just "stay the fuck home and pay high prices you don't mind instead of screwing us over"?
...getting the girls I see to drop everything they are doing and coming to see me ASAP when I'm in town...You have good experience so I guess that is why you feel the way you do. That does not happen to everyone. You don't think money corrupt people? And I have similar observation with Ted.
...provided them with gifts in excess of a casual relationship. This was consistently an error. Instead of reciprocating, they felt more financially comfortable to spend more time with their friends......
.... I can't afford a million dollar house in CA so I got a cheaper one somewhere else.....Have you thought about why?
Mr E said this place in El Centro RLD has the best fried chicken. I agree with him. If my best friend were with me here, he wouldn't eat it because it is in a dump. LOL. Most people probably won't have a chance to try it because it comes out late at night and deep in RLD. The other one is from a Michelin starred restaurant that usually requires advanced reservation, and the tasting menu takes about 2 hours to eat. It is good but I don't think it is better than the friend chicken as far as the enjoyment I got out of it goes. I also don't like someone explaining every dish to me when I dine alone. I can dress however I want when I have the friend chicken, but not so when I go to the Michelin starred restaurant. Talking about memory, standing waiting for the hot fried chicken to be ready in a cold raining night with my umbrella in a sleezy RLD in a foreign country is very memorable in my book 😁.
... I do not need a different ho every night or even every week. ....What I mean is you can't expect to find girl in El Centro that looks like the top girls you find elsewhere. My experience is that top girls are hard to find, and top girl that provide the best sex is even harder. I don't think you can get it easily no matter where you go. I think you have lower standard than me if you can do it because I looked everywhere including El Centro. LOL, it's a joke.
I was in Sao Paulo last month. I ended up repeating with only 2 girls several times because they are the hottest based on my taste and I want to make sure I don't miss anything, but they don't provide the best sex. My WhatsApp blew up after I left, and this is from someone who is out of my league otherwise. Then she attempted to contact me thru her second WhatsApp because I ignored her on her first WhatsAPp number. I got more satisfaction out of ignoring her than to have sex with her LOL. But now I know I have some leverage over her so next time I am going to get more out of her. Haha. These are college girls, and new. I know they are new because I frequent Scandallo enough. One works for a modeling agency. One night the models are out in force and it was pretty spectacular now I think about it. I was trying to infiltrate thru her to get to other so called models but wasn't successful. I guess the girl wants to keep me for herself, similar to many mongers keeping hot girls to themselves.
.... If they absolutely NEED makeup, nada! I am aware there are guys who try to bang as many as they can. A lot of them here, they don't know what they are missing.I guess you have bias so that is how you read it. What I am suggesting is that you need to compare raw appearance, like the appearance of all girls that just got out of bed. When I say bad makeup, I mean it does not mean they are ugly just because they look like clown with makeup. My post is about just by look alone, it does not mean the sex will be great.
Unless you know the mongers personally, I don't think you know they miss anything. I like to have more choices personally.
DonCarlos1234
10-11-22, 10:59
Define "a good number. " What percentage of prostitutes in Colombia have a US visa, own a car and manage banks, or own successful businesses?
I'll do you one better. My 1 regular has a US visa, has a car and her family owns property in Envigado, Medellin and Guatape. Both her and her sister have traveled often, although not yet to Europe. She spent much of the summer with me in the US and I've never paid her for sex (which would be much cheaper).
But those aren't typical Colombian prostitutes. Those are middle class girls who understand the advantages of fucking gringos. The typical hooker isn't from an estrato 4 neighborhood, estrato 2 at best. They own very little and live poorly.
Go out and find a girl working the street in El Centro, or in one of the casas who has a car, US visa and lives in a middle class neighborhood.Congrats to you JjBee! . worth every minute, peso or dollar you invest looking for them. Not (of course) in El Centro or anywhere walking the streets. But they DO exist. I have found some in Malls, some in SA and you never know where. I lost one because I mentioned money. I was so stupid in those days God bless Colombia.
I have to agree that all this bitching about who pays too much or too little doesn't help anyone. I didn't know it but I guess I'm one of the two week millionaire haha (wish I was in real life too but I'm not) .
Though I fail to see what it matters to anyone if I pay my girls an extra 50 k or 100 k if I feel like it. I have been to centro once on my first visit and only because Jjbee62 was cool enough to give me tour of the city. Never been to a casa either, and even though I have been to LLeras I have never pulled the trigger on any girl there. I exclusively use FB and insta or girls recommended by the girls I already know. So I don't believe that what I pay affects anyone that doesn't use FB or insta. And in the very unlikely chance that it does somehow, I'm sorry but I don't really care a whole lot.
My vacation time is very limited during the year. I can go maybe 3 or 4 times a year if I'm luck and only for about a week or two at a time. So when I go down there I'm not worried about spending and extra 10 or 20 bucks on girl I want to see, when I want to see her. Money I have, time is another matter.
I maybe a pendejo but not one that has any problems getting the girls I see to drop everything they are doing and coming to see me ASAP when I'm in town. I don't get ignored or blown off like crazy like some of my buddies that try to be more frugal when they visit.
Yes I spend more money than my buddies but an extra 500 dollars every few months is not going to lose me any sleep. I know some can't afford to pay extra and that's fine. Some can but don't want to and that's fine too. I can't afford a million dollar house in CA so I got a cheaper one somewhere else.
There are thousands of hot girls that will see you for your price, maybe not the 20 or so that I see on the regular but I don't think anyone's bed will be empty on my account.
If the girls are quoting you higher prices than you want to pay, find other ones that won't. Real simple.I feel the same way you do. I have a limited amount of vacation time and I want to try to enjoy myself the best I can during my vacation. An extra 10 to 20 dollars to see the girls that I want doesn't really matter that much on a short vacation if you take into consideration the cost of the airfare and hotels for the trip. I am visiting Medellin and I am going to try to have a good time. I am going to do it my way and pay what I want. As for ex pats who complain about the prices we pay, that's their right but I also have a right to do what I want.
Who has the better girls now - Energy or New Life?
I have been to Medellin every month since I turned 60 years in 2021.
I will be there on the 18th.
For some of you Americans and Europeans you are from first countries visiting a third world country to fuck third world putas.
And here you you talking about women have visas to travel.
Most people from third world countries that have visas do not return to their countries.
So I say it's bullshit that some guys are banging chick's that travel.
A lot of liars are here on the board.
That's why if I have to do a report here I will not.
It's you paid too much.
I spend my money how I want to.
I live in Guyana it's third world.
I travel every month to Canada for 2 days the to Medellin for 4 or 5 days.
Colombia is so fucking cheap.
I like to drink and party on LA 70.
I have a ton of local girls that's strata 3 and 4.
I treat them like people they like to drink Baileys.
It only 110 mil pesos. Thats only another 28 dollars.
Everything here is about their girls are lawyers, doctors from very rich families.
Did they take these gringos to meet parents and spend time at their homes.
The real loosers here are you first world countries Boys. No one forced you to go to Colombia.
But complains about their systems.
Oh their late. Or Immigration takes to long.
Well just fucking stay home and you get all the first treatment you whiners.
Sureman.We all bounce differently. I can only speak for myself. I hate being ripped off. If a bowl of rice costs $30 in the US and a similar bowl of rice costs $10 in China and a guy in China tries to sell me that bowl of rice for $15, I will be angry because he's trying to rip me off. I will not say that its ok because in the US it costs $30. But that's just me.
With providers its a little more fluid. I always pay the going rate for chicas but if the girl gives me exceptional service I give her a propina.
We all bounce differently. I can only speak for myself. I hate being ripped off. If a bowl of rice costs $30 in the US and a similar bowl of rice costs $10 in China and a guy in China tries to sell me that bowl of rice for $15, I will be angry because he's trying to rip me off. I will not say that its ok because in the US it costs $30. But that's just me.
With providers its a little more fluid. I always pay the going rate for chicas but if the girl gives me exceptional service I give her a propina.Totally relate to this. If guy's think it's problematic at times when the Chica's in Colombia try to gouge guys, try mongering in South Korea. After I was refused entry in many places in Seoul, or told I had to pay a 10% surcharge, I didn't even waste my time there except being a tourist. I was fucking very angry about what I encountered there, and I believe many share the same sentiments when someone is trying to rip you off regardless of where your are in the World.
Safe and comfortable setting with a provider who fulfills commitments as agreed at a fair price. Highly valuable.
Reliable session access with no loss of personal time waiting and hoping. PRICELESS.
After some trouble scheduling with FB Chicas, I decided to go with my tried and true, mileroticos. She was very responsive with texting and I headed over to her place near the Estadio metro after taking a quick shower. She met me outside at the entrance. She is a taller and curvier girl but by no means fat. There are two other girls living in the apartment but they aren't remotely as attractive, more of the stuff you would see in centro. She insists that I pay before the service which I am ok with because she has positive reviews online. We start with some pecks and groping after which she cleans off my dick to do OWO. After a bit we move to cowgirl. Cowgirl is a bit difficult since she is a bit bigger and the condom ends up getting stuck inside her. We switch to a new condom and do some missionary and doggystyle. I am about to cum and tell her I want CIM. She moves to give me more OWO. I am not someone who cums easily through oral but to her credit she stayed at it for almost 10 minutes until I came. She sucked me dry and went to the shower to clean up as I dressed up. She had a very good attitude throughout which I was happy with. She also does just about anything for a price (anal, trios, TLN). Total damage 160 (130 for the hour, 30 for CIM).
Her link if anyone is interested: https: co. Mileroticos. Com / escorts / andrea-joven-paisa-con-el-mejor-servicio-dejate-seducirte-por-mis-encantos /23674834/.
BootyBandit84
10-11-22, 16:39
Ah. So we're supposed to be fucking hookers in order to earn their respect? I wish someone would have explained that to me 42 years ago. All this time I've been thinking I was fucking them because I wanted pussy and didn't want to work to get it.
Can you tell me how much that respect is worth? If I'm trying to buy a house, can I put down "Respected by Colombian Hookers" as an asset? What section of my resume should that go under? Can it at least get me a 10% discount at Denny's?
Yep, the girls all talk to each other. And do you know what they do after they find out some white gringo paid one of them more than they usually get? They message the guy and try to get in on the action. Know what they do when they learn about a guy who pays the minimum and expects the maximum? They message the guys who pay more.
This might be news to you. Girls who are selling pussy aren't doing it to find guys they can respect. They're doing it to get paid. If they can get paid more for the same job, they aren't turning it down because they'd rather respect some stranger than have money. The respect has a lot more to do with how you treat them.
Now I'm not suggesting anyone should go out and pay more. Pay whatever you're comfortable with that gets you what you want. However, if you're sitting alone because you're worried that paying more than someone else will lose you the respect of prostitutes, you might want to skip the mongering.You said what I wanted to say but far more eloquently than I ever could. I don't go to Colombia to make friends even though I have made several. I certainly don't go there because I want to get respect from prostitutes even though I treat them all with respect. I go to get laid by 9's and 10's (my opinion only) for what I consider a cheap price.
I don't care if they respect me, or even if they like me one bit as long as they can fake it well enough when they visit haha.
If me spending an extra few bucks on a dozen girls a few times a year ruins someones retirement plans, than I'm sorry but you have other problems in your life to deal with.
No one here is screwing anyone over by paying what they are happy paying. There are literally tens of thousands if not more girls selling their pussy in Medellin alone. So don't be so dramatic, calm down. You will always be able to get pussy for the price you want to pay.
BootyBandit84
10-11-22, 16:43
Safe and comfortable setting with a provider who fulfills commitments as agreed at a fair price. Highly valuable.
Reliable session access with no loss of personal time waiting and hoping. PRICELESS.Amen brother. Time is the one thing I don't have enough of when I go to Colombia. Finding girls that show up on time every time is hard but once you do is priceless!
Can't you see the irony in the comment?
First of all, you assume we're on vacation. Wow so you're budgeting for a 7 day trip maybe and assuming we don't need to spend 30 days per month, 365 days a year, because we actually LIVE here. Changes things a bit, huh?
Second of all, you call us cheap. This assumes that someone who moved or retired in a country with a very comfortable budget wasn't rational to have done so. Rather, he should have instead moved to Colombia but budgeted for America just so he could meet your expectations of "not being cheap".
And finally, would it not be a fair response to say, that since you're not at all price sensitive, why can't you just "stay the fuck home and pay high prices you don't mind instead of screwing us over"?Prior to the Pandemic, and before the flood of all the new mongers in Medellin when literally all other mongering destinations were closed, like SEA, mongering in Medellin since the Pandemic has increased exponentially, and hence the divide between the guys who have be coming down here for years and either live here or those that spend a lot of time here versus all the newbie mongers here which I think now outnumber the amount of posters from before the Pandemic.
As much as I don't like some of the posts on this subject, I understand the mindset of the guys who only have a few weeks of vacation wanting to get in as much banging as possible and because things are so cheap here it's like chump change to pay more.
BootyBandit84
10-11-22, 16:57
You have good experience so I guess that is why you feel the way you do. That does not happen to everyone. You don't think money corrupt people? And I have similar observation with Ted.
Have you thought about why?I have had bad experiences like everyone else here. It has taken trail and error to get to where I am right now.
A lot of wasted time and money too. However finding and keeping the high quality girls I have now as my regulars would not have happened as quickly or as easily as it did if I was insisting on paying rock bottom prices.
Could I have found equally good and hot girls for a lower price? Yeah probably, but it would have been a much longer and harder road for me to follow. And I have said before, I don't live down there and can't go for moths at a time either so I don't have the time to invest like that. So paying a little more so save me time and grieve is something I'm happy to do.
BootyBandit84
10-11-22, 17:14
Can't you see the irony in the comment?
First of all, you assume we're on vacation. Wow so you're budgeting for a 7 day trip maybe and assuming we don't need to spend 30 days per month, 365 days a year, because we actually LIVE here. Changes things a bit, huh?
Second of all, you call us cheap. This assumes that someone who moved or retired in a country with a very comfortable budget wasn't rational to have done so. Rather, he should have instead moved to Colombia but budgeted for America just so he could meet your expectations of "not being cheap".
And finally, would it not be a fair response to say, that since you're not at all price sensitive, why can't you just "stay the fuck home and pay high prices you don't mind instead of screwing us over"?I'm not trying to pick a fight here BUT no it doesn't change a thing for me. The guys that live in Colombia have multiple of opportunities and advantages that guys on vacation don't. You can invest the time and effort to find quality girls that will be with you for a cheaper price. You get more familiar with the city and culture too. I don't have that time when I'm there for a week or two.
No I'm never going to call some one cheap. You SHOULD pay only what you are happy to pay or it ruins the game at least for me.
But we are playing on different fields is what I'm getting at. And those that use FB or Isnta or even SA are most likely not seeing the same girls that guys that only do centro or casas. So I don't believe the prices would go up on that account. Prices might definitely be going up, but it could be more because prices for EVERYTHING is going up. And less because a few guys pay a few girls a few more pesos to meet up.
You said what I wanted to say but far more eloquently than I ever could. I don't go to Colombia to make friends even though I have made several. I certainly don't go there because I want to get respect from prostitutes even though I treat them all with respect. I go to get laid by 9's and 10's (my opinion only) for what I consider a cheap price.
I don't care if they respect me, or even if they like me one bit as long as they can fake it well enough when they visit haha.
If me spending an extra few bucks on a dozen girls a few times a year ruins someones retirement plans, than I'm sorry but you have other problems in your life to deal with.
No one here is screwing anyone over by paying what they are happy paying. There are literally tens of thousands if not more girls selling their pussy in Medellin alone. So don't be so dramatic, calm down. You will always be able to get pussy for the price you want to pay.You're absolutely right, of course. Your money, your choice as to how you wish to spend it.
There are always people on here wretching about how paying a few extra pesos will ruin the scene in Colombia. But these are usually guys who are minimum wage earners who have a shoe-string budget when they come here to visit. They are terrified that it might cost them a few dollars more if girls charge a higher price.
Some of the arguments are laughable. The girls won't respect you. Seriously? How many times has a girl said, "Well, I won't see you because you are a fool and pay too much and I don't respect you"?
Yeah, you guessed it. In the three years I've lived here, I've heard that all of -0- times. Girls do, however, talk among themselves but usually to protect each other. I. e. This guy is rough, that one has bad hygiene, another one is cheap, that one likes anal. And on and on. That is what most of the girls share between themselves. I've also had girls refer their friends to me after we've seen each other a few times and the sparkle has faded.
In Colombia you can buy mangos in many places. There is no reason to think that you can only buy them in MDE, noe that MDE has the best ones.
You can buy them on the street from small shops or street vendors, or you can buy from upmarket supermarkets like Carulla, Jumbo and Exito, hell you can even order them online and get home delivery.
But where will you get the best quality ones from, and what is 'quality'? Do you prefer big, juicy, sweet, cheap, soft, young? Different people prefer different mangos. And I prefer to buy my mangos from the street, becuase I think they are better value for money, and I want to support the local community. When I buy from the big supermarkets, I know I am paying for their costs, their profits, and therir (to me) meaningless brand.
Hell, several times I bought mangosteens that looked good from Jumbo and Carulla, only to get them home and find they were hard or rotten on the inside. That did it for me. Now I have no faith in paying a premium for the same fruit that I can buy locally.
We all bounce differently. I can only speak for myself. I hate being ripped off. If a bowl of rice costs $30 in the US and a similar bowl of rice costs $10 in China and a guy in China tries to sell me that bowl of rice for $15, I will be angry because he's trying to rip me off. I will not say that its ok because in the US it costs $30. But that's just me.
With providers its a little more fluid. I always pay the going rate for chicas but if the girl gives me exceptional service I give her a propina.I understand up to the point where you get mad. Why get mad about it? The guy selling rice (and pretty sure you'll need a bucket for $10 worth of rice) is either following the boss's orders or trying to make a little extra money. You laugh it off, tell him you don't want that much rice just the $10 bucket. Or you tell them the price is too high and go next door. I don't imagine it's difficult to find someone selling rice in China.
And why get mad at the rice seller, or pussy seller? Chances are they're someone who has never had financial security, they've never had leisure time or the finer things in life. They struggle from one day to the next with no real hope of climbing out of the hole they were born in. That doesn't mean to just throw money at them, but at least recognize they're just trying to get a piece of the pie.
MaddTraveler
10-11-22, 19:48
In Colombia you can buy mangos in many places. There is no reason to think that you can only buy them in MDE, noe that MDE has the best ones.
You can buy them on the street from small shops or street vendors, or you can buy from upmarket supermarkets like Carulla, Jumbo and Exito, hell you can even order them online and get home delivery.
But where will you get the best quality ones from, and what is 'quality'? Do you prefer big, juicy, sweet, cheap, soft, young? Different people prefer different mangos. And I prefer to buy my mangos from the street, becuase I think they are better value for money, and I want to support the local community. When I buy from the big supermarkets, I know I am paying for their costs, their profits, and therir (to me) meaningless brand.
Hell, several times I bought mangosteens that looked good from Jumbo and Carulla, only to get them home and find they were hard or rotten on the inside. That did it for me. Now I have no faith in paying a premium for the same fruit that I can buy locally.Real talk, my last day there couple weeks back I bought a fancy pear from the supermarket, you know, all wrapped up, clean, well packaged. Then I got back to the hotel, cut it in slices to find out it was hard, dry, not that sweet, and colorless. The pear even had to audacity to just lay there to rest a while, since it was too moist from being emerged in too much water few hours ago that evening at the shop. The stores does that to fool shoppers. So I rested too and still indulged as I had to catch a flight. But I did wish I bought a ripe one from the street vendor for 1/10 of the price as usual, I was also too lazy to visit the free farm. It was so not worth it. I ended up deleting the market's address from my GPS so I don't accidently go there anymore.
Litmus Smut
10-11-22, 21:06
I have come to really enjoy red grapes. Not so much the green ones, but they are ok.
When in Colombia, I eat the local Colombian grapes. When in the US, I eat the local American grapes. And when in Rome, I do as the Romans.
Grapes are delicious.
In Colombia you can buy mangos in many places. There is no reason to think that you can only buy them in MDE, noe that MDE has the best ones.
You can buy them on the street from small shops or street vendors, or you can buy from upmarket supermarkets like Carulla, Jumbo and Exito, hell you can even order them online and get home delivery.
But where will you get the best quality ones from, and what is 'quality'? Do you prefer big, juicy, sweet, cheap, soft, young? Different people prefer different mangos. And I prefer to buy my mangos from the street, becuase I think they are better value for money, and I want to support the local community. When I buy from the big supermarkets, I know I am paying for their costs, their profits, and therir (to me) meaningless brand.
Hell, several times I bought mangosteens that looked good from Jumbo and Carulla, only to get them home and find they were hard or rotten on the inside. That did it for me. Now I have no faith in paying a premium for the same fruit that I can buy locally.
In America they make about 100 dollars per day.
But do you pay 100 for 8 hours with a escorts in America.
So shut the fuck up about what locals make.
You guys are really cheap.
Can't you guys just enjoy your vacation.
Everyone is an expert here.
Sureman.Can't agree more! Yea maybe the average salary is a 1 million cop per month but the iPhones, bags, makeup, etc costs the same.
And honestly, who is anyone to say how much a girl wants to sell her body for??
Bottom line is even guys who can afford 1 k usd an hour escorts come to Colombia cause the girls are simply hotter. Even escorts who charge 500-1000 an hour in the us have nothing on the Colombian women.
The washed up 30-40 year old Colombians are getting 300-500 usd an hour here.
Everyone has their own way of doing things.
Whether on a budget or not everyone has a right to do things THIER WAY!!
But to blame others is simply being bitter.
I think a lot of guys can't handle seeing these "third world putas" going on expensive trips, drinking bottles they can't afford, having phones that are more current than theirs.
I say stop bashing others or acting like you're better than them and share useful info.
Metatemujin
10-12-22, 00:18
Will be in Medellin Oct. 12-26. I am interested in grabbing a drink with fellow ISG members. This will be my second trip.
Can't agree more! ....JW posted a reminder which is what SureMan replied to.
...Spend what you like, but remember what locals pay!Based on JW's post. It is actually around 30 minutes, not 8 hour, so the number is greatly exaggerated.
In America they make about 100 dollars per day.
But do you pay 100 for 8 hours with a escorts in America.
....It is misleading to determine income by hourly rate. The monthly or daily income should be used. If the girls are making that kind of money based on the hourly rate. They would be set for life within a year by buying as many properties as they can to use as rental. That is what I saw in Asia but I don't know if the girls in Colombia are that smart or not.
In Colombia you can buy mangos in many places. ....That is my favorite topic. I know a thing or two about mangos. LOL. It is not in season now so it is more difficult to get the red ones in Exito but you can still easily get them in mom and pop places and in El Centro. I think that is what you mean by local.
I don't know about quality in general but my personal observation is that the ones in Exito appear much better looking. They are more refined and polished with less visible flaws. What you find in El Centro often look weathered, and older. It is easier to find the yellow bananas that are younger and green in Exito. The one in El Centro are more mature and don't look as good. At the end of the day, when you take everything off, inside is the same and the ones in El Centro are far cheaper.
I guess "respect" is the wrong word. Mainly I was talking about the guy that wanted to buy a hoe an iPhone. I've been mongering for years in Latin America, and two rice countries. I've made mistakes and learned from the best members of this board and they have taught me always pay the local price. Maybe a minimal gringo tax. To me, Colombia is the best from the price and looks perspective. I'm just not feeling MDE anymore. People are so stuck on MDE that they don't even care to venture out into the city where they land.
You eat at Denny's Bro? That's nasty!!
Ah. So we're supposed to be fucking hookers in order to earn their respect? I wish someone would have explained that to me 42 years ago. All this time I've been thinking I was fucking them because I wanted pussy and didn't want to work to get it.
Can you tell me how much that respect is worth? If I'm trying to buy a house, can I put down "Respected by Colombian Hookers" as an asset? What section of my resume should that go under? Can it at least get me a 10% discount at Denny's?
Yep, the girls all talk to each other. And do you know what they do after they find out some white gringo paid one of them more than they usually get? They message the guy and try to get in on the action. Know what they do when they learn about a guy who pays the minimum and expects the maximum? They message the guys who pay more.
This might be news to you. Girls who are selling pussy aren't doing it to find guys they can respect. They're doing it to get paid. If they can get paid more for the same job, they aren't turning it down because they'd rather respect some stranger than have money. The respect has a lot more to do with how you treat them.
Now I'm not suggesting anyone should go out and pay more. Pay whatever you're comfortable with that gets you what you want. However, if you're sitting alone because you're worried that paying more than someone else will lose you the respect of prostitutes, you might want to skip the mongering.
The guys that live in Colombia get all the deals!
I'm not trying to pick a fight here BUT no it doesn't change a thing for me. The guys that live in Colombia have multiple of opportunities and advantages that guys on vacation don't. You can invest the time and effort to find quality girls that will be with you for a cheaper price. You get more familiar with the city and culture too. I don't have that time when I'm there for a week or two.
No I'm never going to call some one cheap. You SHOULD pay only what you are happy to pay or it ruins the game at least for me.
But we are playing on different fields is what I'm getting at. And those that use FB or Isnta or even SA are most likely not seeing the same girls that guys that only do centro or casas. So I don't believe the prices would go up on that account. Prices might definitely be going up, but it could be more because prices for EVERYTHING is going up. And less because a few guys pay a few girls a few more pesos to meet up.
Sneaky racist? I voted for Obama and I hate Clarence Thomas. MDE hoes don't have preferences they care about who pays the most with the least amount of time and effort. Unless of course you live there.
I get racially profiled too mah! I'm walking down Beach Road with my boy (a ISG member) and these Indian cats come up to me and start talking to me in their native tongue. I'm like bro, I ain't Indian. My boy busted out laughing. Shit was funny. I'm like, do Thai girls think I'm Indian?
Anyway, lets go to Nairobi. Land of the free GFE. My other boy highly recommends it.
Once in a while I see these sneaky racist posts and I'm not sure why admin allows them. Racists always want others to be racists. So I guess you've fucked 99% of the Millions of girls in medellin and you know what they ALL prefer, you're part of their clubs. Cause I'm sure you wouldn't dare posting this just cause you've chatted with 2 or 3 chicken heads or street rats and suddenly you assume they speak for millions. Man, a I guess an occasional good pussy make some of us sing songs, see colors and everything eh!!
So don't be a pussy, say what you want to say, say the race you want to call out or what you think you know or just stfu. This shouldn't even be a topic you partake w putas. Putas will tell gringo 1/ race1 that he's her favorite, he'll meet gringo 2/ race 2 and say the same. We all know this game. Even even if. Or if and only if racism and discrimination exists between wg / pornstars, etc. This still aint the place or hint or to bring it up. Drop that silly superiority complex. You're paying for pussy like everyone else w your "preferred race".
Why buy the Mangos, when you get the papaya for free? Inside Colombian joke. LOL.
That is my favorite topic. I know a thing or two about mangos. LOL. It is not in season now so it is more difficult to get the red ones in Exito but you can still easily get them in
mom and pop places and in El Centro. I think that is what you mean by local.
I don't know about quality in general but my personal observation is that the ones in Exito appear much better looking. They are more refined and polished with less visible flaws. What you find in El Centro often look weathered, and older. It is easier to find the yellow bananas that are younger and green in Exito. The one in El Centro are more mature and don't look as good. At the end of the day, when you take everything off, inside is the same and the ones in El Centro are far cheaper.
LoveItHere69
10-12-22, 04:03
In Colombia you can buy mangos in many places. There is no reason to think that you can only buy them in MDE, noe that MDE has the best ones.MDE has the best mangoes and yet I have never seen a mango tree there. Three months in Barranquilla I saw around 50 mango trees in peoples yards while walking around. Even mentioned in a write up 3 years ago because it surprised me.
I guess "respect" is the wrong word. Mainly I was talking about the guy that wanted to buy a hoe an iPhone. I've been mongering for years in Latin America, and two rice countries. I've made mistakes and learned from the best members of this board and they have taught me always pay the local price. Maybe a minimal gringo tax. To me, Colombia is the best from the price and looks perspective. I'm just not feeling MDE anymore. People are so stuck on MDE that they don't even care to venture out into the city where they land.
You eat at Denny's Bro? That's nasty!!The best members of this board have told me I should go to the casas and they've told me to avoid the casas. They've told me the place to be is El Centro or Poblado and they've told me I should stay away from El Centro or Poblado. Just about everything I've been told 2 different roads I should take.
At the end of the day every here is limited by their preference, prejudice and perception. For the new guys it's good to have the guidance, but it's also important to find the right guide. That's why I frequently ask for more information from new members.
Once you have some experience you need to adjust to fit your situation. That might mean paying a little more or less. I will let you in on another secret. Most of the guys saying to never do something are occasionally guilty of doing that exact thing.
I'm not suggesting you throw money, but there are times when a few dollars more can turn your night around.
When it comes to buying a $1000 phone for a complete stranger, no. Unless you're Oprah, giving away Cadillacs, no.
Someone asked how much is a mango so I answer here. Most of the fruits sold in El Centro are by piece, by bag or by pile, not by weight, unless you go into the local outdoor market where they have scale, then it maybe by weight. These two guys are less than 5 mils, could be 3 mils. It is so confusing because everything is about the same price so I don't remember the exact price. LOL. I have been waiting them to ripe in the bag for a few days. Two small avocados are in the corner so you get an idea of the size.
To be fair, I think the fruits that one gets at large super market chain are export quality so they look much nicer on the outside. Poor countries export the best to rich countries. Sometimes the locals don't even know the much better looking ones exist.
I think we should keep the price discussion going on both sides. It's important for information purpose and check and balance. It is possible that the poster is actually trying to be helpful when he says you overpay but I can understand the reaction.
About a year ago, I was paying about 100 USD in Sao Paulo club. Last month I was quoted 200 USD in the same club by the same girl. (The girls quoted me in BRL, I did the conversion for convenience, and the price is a little less than what I posted here) I fucked her before so I didn't plan to fuck her again even at 100 USD. But the other girl is an armature and is coming to Medellin to study Spanish so I planed to fuck her here for FB price. LOL. But I basically gave in to the 200 USD price when I met other girls that were my types and unique. There are more regulars that are less price sensitive by MDE standard in Sao Paulo so a person, and me, can be influenced to think the price is normal for a hot girl. It is not quite true in reality, and I won't get into it as it is still case by case. Keep in mind, I am already familiar with SP as I spent a few months there during my last trip.
I have this regular that I met in the club. Not only I didn't negotiate the price but I also tipped her about USD40 because we went over one hour which I rarely do. Usually I need only 40 minutes max. I saw her several times in my place after. The effect of the $40 tip basically raises my base price for all sessions. I already knew because we discussed it before she came over. So that is me overpaid in someway and affect the price I paid after. Will I tip again, probably but I will be less generous with tip amount and more generous with more sessions later. (In this club, there is no knock on the door. The room is about USD45/ HR. The cover now is USD100 and it was 80 last month).
If I overpaid 100USD a session, think about the money that you can save in this context if you have a session once a day for a month or 2 weeks. I know Medellin is not Sao Paulo but the context is similar except at higher price.
Mr Enternational
10-12-22, 13:20
Poor countries export the best to rich countries. Sometimes the locals don't even know the much better looking ones exist.Like beef in Brazil. My girlfriend's son worked at a slaughterhouse. He said all the good stuff they send to USA and Europe and all the bad stuff they keep in Brazil. For years I always wondered why the meat there was so horrible but people would swear it was the best thing going. Wasn't the best, just the best that they knew.
HappyShiva
10-12-22, 14:47
Anyone know a clean short term place in Laureles to bring chica. My joint does not allow chica without cedula and I want to fuck this chick so bad. Don't want to take her to dirty centro hotels.
I think we should keep the price discussion going on both sides. I did. But you missed my mango allegory and for some unknown reason, you started chatting about mangos. Hehe.
Anyone know a clean short term place in Laureles to bring chica. My joint does not allow chica without cedula and I want to fuck this chick so bad. Don't want to take her to dirty centro hotels.Hotel Suites 44. Rooms are basic but clean.
Was at Rio Negro Airport yesterday and tried using the Scotia Bank / Colpatria ATM by entrance 4 on the departure level. I've been using this machine for at least two years and yesterday for the first time they showed a proposed conversion rate which was ridiculous with a 6% fee which I declined and then the transaction didn't go thru. I tried a second time and it didn't go thru. So I thought when declining you would be given whatever the market rate is.
I typically only make ATM with drawls from the ScotiaBank ATM at the EXITO in Poblado and have never seen a proposed conversion rate before on the transaction screens. I know a lot other Colombian banks are doing the conversion thing, however this is the first time I've seen it at ScotiaBank / Colpatria and I don't like it, it was almost like the bank was saying take what we are offering, or leave it as we won't be giving you the market rate.
In Colombia you can buy mangos in many places. There is no reason to think that you can only buy them in MDE, noe that MDE has the best ones.
You can buy them on the street from small shops or street vendors, or you can buy from upmarket supermarkets like Carulla, Jumbo and Exito, hell you can even order them online and get home delivery.
But where will you get the best quality ones from, and what is 'quality'? Do you prefer big, juicy, sweet, cheap, soft, young? Different people prefer different mangos. And I prefer to buy my mangos from the street, becuase I think they are better value for money, and I want to support the local community. When I buy from the big supermarkets, I know I am paying for their costs, their profits, and therir (to me) meaningless brand.
Hell, several times I bought mangosteens that looked good from Jumbo and Carulla, only to get them home and find they were hard or rotten on the inside. That did it for me. Now I have no faith in paying a premium for the same fruit that I can buy locally.It sounds like you don't know how to tell a good mango from a bad mango, so you only buy the cheapest ones. You should try to learn what a well-ripened mango looks and feels like. It should be firm without blemishes on the skin. If you lightly squeeze one it shouldn't be hard or soft. Unless you're making juice or preserves, you want the mango to be at, or just before the peak of ripeness. After that age, they are sweeter, but sloppy and they tend to be clingy.
All those local vendors you're supporting are getting their mangos from the same place as the markets and grocery stores. The ones which end up on the street are the ones passed over by everyone else. That doesn't mean they are all bad, overripe, or not yet ripe. It just means finding the best mango is more difficult, because it's often surrounded by ones which you aren't interested in.
Not everyone has the time or energy to walk around El Centro looking for an acceptable mango. They can quickly go to a market where the mangos are all lined up, so they can easily find the mango which looks best to them. Or they can go online, where they can see thousands of mangos, see where they were grown and when they were first offered for sale.
Each way has benefits and drawbacks. No matter which way is right for you, best results are obtained by knowing how to select the right one.
JohnnyWalker55
10-12-22, 16:02
I have been to Medellin every month since I turned 60 years in 2021.
I will be there on the 18th.
For some of you Americans and Europeans you are from first countries visiting a third world country to fuck third world putas.
And here you you talking about women have visas to travel.
Most people from third world countries that have visas do not return to their countries.
So I say it's bullshit that some guys are banging chick's that travel.
A lot of liars are here on the board.
That's why if I have to do a report here I will not.
It's you paid too much.
I spend my money how I want to.
I live in Guyana it's third world.
I travel every month to Canada for 2 days the to Medellin for 4 or 5 days.
Colombia is so fucking cheap.
I like to drink and party on LA 70.
I have a ton of local girls that's strata 3 and 4.You're double my age but I hope I don't become bitter like you when I can only get it up once a day.
I live in Colombia 6 months out of the year, and trust me, the girls who you spend just "110 k" for some baileys think you're a fool, and they talk about it after they pay 5 k for their own club Colombia when they're fucking their barrio boyfriend for free.
Trust me on this one dude.
And jjbee, to answer your question, yes, the daily wage matters, that's why girls 18-30 would rather make $150 on only fans or the streetwalker around college town makes 80-$100 in an hour instead of working $10 an hour in retail.
Paying any girl more than 100 k to fuck in Colombia is insanity. Just like paying any girl over $200 to fuck in the usa is insanity. Both double the daily wages.
I thought as you age you get wiser? A lot of old dudes here have no chill, no objectivity, and seem set in their ways.
That's why they're always the creepy ones in the flights and immigration lines, out of shape, balding / grey, but think they're badass because they fly to the third world and fuck some universitaria for 12 $ usd. With that creepy smile on their face as they're waiting to show their passports to the immigration officers.
And then you spend your life on these forums acting as some kind of authority, LOL. Congrats, great life.
And no offense to surfer, you're a legend.
Someone asked how much is a mango so I answer here. Most of the fruits sold in El Centro are by piece, by bag or by pile, not by weight, unless you go into the local outdoor market where they have scale, then it maybe by weight. These two guys are less than 5 mils, could be 3 mils. It is so confusing because everything is about the same price so I don't remember the exact price. LOL. I have been waiting them to ripe in the bag for a few days. Two small avocados are in the corner so you get an idea of the size.
To be fair, I think the fruits that one gets at large super market chain are export quality so they look much nicer on the outside. Poor countries export the best to rich countries. Sometimes the locals don't even know the much better looking ones exist.Are you sure that those where two small avocados in the bag next to the mangos, as it sure looks like a small frog to me. LOL.
As far as your observations about the fruits in the larger supermarkets, like EXITO, well I think it's more a presentation sales thing for the locals versus export. It's like when you get a watermelon from a street vendor, or a local market, it it may still have some dirt on it, where as in like an EXITO it may have been sprayed with something shiny kind of like a new car look.
It sounds like you don't know how to tell a good mango from a bad mango, so you only buy the cheapest ones. You should try to learn what a well-ripened mango looks and feels like. It should be firm without blemishes on the skin. If you lightly squeeze one it shouldn't be hard or soft. Unless you're making juice or preserves, you want the mango to be at, or just before the peak of ripeness. After that age, they are sweeter, but sloppy and they tend to be clingy.
All those local vendors you're supporting are getting their mangos from the same place as the markets and grocery stores. The ones which end up on the street are the ones passed over by everyone else. That doesn't mean they are all bad, overripe, or not yet ripe. It just means finding the best mango is more difficult, because it's often surrounded by ones which you aren't interested in.
Not everyone has the time or energy to walk around El Centro looking for an acceptable mango. They can quickly go to a market where the mangos are all lined up, so they can easily find the mango which looks best to them. Or they can go online, where they can see thousands of mangos, see where they were grown and when they were first offered for sale.
Each way has benefits and drawbacks. No matter which way is right for you, best results are obtained by knowing how to select the right one.If you were just to delete "Mango " from your entire post, and replace it with "Chica" , it sounds like a guide in selecting Chicas from different mongering venues in town.
"Not everyone has the time or energy to walk around El Centro looking for an acceptable mango / chica, as an example.
think it's more a presentation sales thing for the locals versus export. It's like when you get a watermelon from a street vendor, or a local market, it it may still have some dirt on it, where as in like an EXITO it may have been sprayed with something shiny kind of like a new car look.That is the point. Now we are getting there! A natural looking mango bought locally, compared to an enhanced mango in a high end supermarket that you pay extra for. But underneath, its the same damn mango!
These "third world putas" will be at Daddy Yankee this weekend with seats that are being resold for 3-500 USD.
I think people here think Colombia is poorer than it actually is.
Just cause you read some numbers??
I think it comes down to your surroundings. Even an ugly girl tries to charge 200 usd in lleras.
But in centro she's worth 40 mil.
So if you pay 200 usd did you overpay?? No. Because most guys who pulled from lleras will have the same experience.
If you pay 200 usd in centro then yes that is what I consider fucking up the market.
But if your budget is low odds are you won't even see the top tier girls in medellin.
And they are out there but some guys refuse to believe this.
Instagram models, onlyfans models, webcam models. Etc etc. And even in those avenues there are the lesser attractive ones.
But how much do you think a top tier one would charge for a night??
AmorPorFavor
10-12-22, 16:56
You're double my age but I hope I don't become bitter like you when I can only get it up once a day.
I live in Colombia 6 months out of the year, and trust me, the girls who you spend just "110 k" for some baileys think you're a fool, and they talk about it after they pay 5 k for their own club Colombia when they're fucking their barrio boyfriend for free.
Trust me on this one dude.
And jjbee, to answer your question, yes, the daily wage matters, that's why girls 18-30 would rather make $150 on only fans or the streetwalker around college town makes 80-$100 in an hour instead of working $10 an hour in retail.
Paying any girl more than 100 k to fuck in Colombia is insanity. Just like paying any girl over $200 to fuck in the usa is insanity. Both double the daily wages.
I thought as you age you get wiser? A lot of old dudes here have no chill, no objectivity, and seem set in their ways.
That's why they're always the creepy ones in the flights and immigration lines, out of shape, balding / grey, but think they're badass because they fly to the third world and fuck some universitaria for 12 $ usd. With that creepy smile on their face as they're waiting to show their passports to the immigration officers.
And then you spend your life on these forums acting as some kind of authority, LOL. Congrats, great life.
And no offense to surfer, you're a legend.What is more pathetic are young guys with no game who have to live / travel to poor countries and use P4 P to get laid. I never had to buy pussy until I was in my 50's.
MarquisdeSade1
10-12-22, 17:08
You're double my age but I hope I don't become bitter like you when I can only get it up once a day.
I live in Colombia 6 months out of the year, and trust me, the girls who you spend just "110 k" for some baileys think you're a fool, and they talk about it after they pay 5 k for their own club Colombia when they're fucking their barrio boyfriend for free.
Trust me on this one dude.
And jjbee, to answer your question, yes, the daily wage matters, that's why girls 18-30 would rather make $150 on only fans or the streetwalker around college town makes 80-$100 in an hour instead of working $10 an hour in retail.
Paying any girl more than 100 k to fuck in Colombia is insanity. Just like paying any girl over $200 to fuck in the usa is insanity. Both double the daily wages.
I thought as you age you get wiser? A lot of old dudes here have no chill, no objectivity, and seem set in their ways.
That's why they're always the creepy ones in the flights and immigration lines, out of shape, balding / grey, but think they're badass because they fly to the third world and fuck some universitaria for 12 $ usd. With that creepy smile on their face as they're waiting to show their passports to the immigration officers.
And then you spend your life on these forums acting as some kind of authority, LOL. Congrats, great life.
And no offense to surfer, you're a legend.Great post.
Encore Encore Encore!!
These "third world putas" will be at Daddy Yankee this weekend with seats that are being resold for 3-500 USD.
I doubt that many will be. Only the ones that have sponsors, and very small minority of others. Most spectators will be middle class Colombians and up. IMO.
But if your budget is low odds are you won't even see the top tier girls in medellin. Instagram models, onlyfans models, webcam models. Etc etc.
By Top Tier. I assume you mean high price? Then your comment makes perfect sense. However, I met a absolutely georgeous webcam model in Walking Street 3 days ago. She was a little pricey but I overlooked that bcos she was so sexy - 40 k.
What is more pathetic are young guys with no game who have to live / travel to poor countries and use P4 P to get laid. I never had to buy pussy until I was in my 50's.Don't you accept that some younger guys simply decided to opt out of the norm, the gender role that society places on us, and start paying for sex bcos it suited their values better? That's exactly what I did. I welcome you to sit me in a psycholgisits chair and try to confirm if I am telling the truth.
AmorPorFavor
10-12-22, 17:18
Don't you accept that some younger guys simply decided to opt out of the norm, the gender role that society places on us, and start paying for sex bcos it suited their values better? That's exactly what I did. I welcome you to sit me in a psycholgisits chair and try to confirm if I am telling the truth.I see you young guys too. Mostly scrawny nerds who can't compete for normal women in the first world.
Nil Admirari
10-12-22, 17:36
I see you young guys too. Mostly scrawny nerds who can't compete for normal women in the first world.Various suggestions have been made of late for splitting this thread into separate forums. How about:
--One for sharing useful information and instructive or entertaining experiences in Paisa Pussyland;.
--and one (lets call it Ego-Tripping in Medellin) for making smug, snarky, judgmental comments about other Board Members.
AmorPorFavor
10-12-22, 17:56
You're double my age but I hope I don't become bitter like you when I can only get it up once a day.
I live in Colombia 6 months out of the year, and trust me, the girls who you spend just "110 k" for some baileys think you're a fool, and they talk about it after they pay 5 k for their own club Colombia when they're fucking their barrio boyfriend for free.
Trust me on this one dude.
And jjbee, to answer your question, yes, the daily wage matters, that's why girls 18-30 would rather make $150 on only fans or the streetwalker around college town makes 80-$100 in an hour instead of working $10 an hour in retail.
Paying any girl more than 100 k to fuck in Colombia is insanity. Just like paying any girl over $200 to fuck in the usa is insanity. Both double the daily wages.
I thought as you age you get wiser? A lot of old dudes here have no chill, no objectivity, and seem set in their ways.
That's why they're always the creepy ones in the flights and immigration lines, out of shape, balding / grey, but think they're badass because they fly to the third world and fuck some universitaria for 12 $ usd. With that creepy smile on their face as they're waiting to show their passports to the immigration officers.
And then you spend your life on these forums acting as some kind of authority, LOL. Congrats, great life.
And no offense to surfer, you're a legend.Jonny started it don't blame me for responding.
I doubt that many will be. Only the ones that have sponsors, and very small minority of others. Most spectators will be middle class Colombians and up. IMO.
By Top Tier. I assume you mean high price? Then your comment makes perfect sense. However, I met a absolutely georgeous webcam model in Walking Street 3 days ago. She was a little pricey but I overlooked that bcos she was so sexy - 40 k.Higher priced and most times just obviously better looking.
You'll be suprised how many of these girls will be going.
And this is the point I make about different surroundings.
If you go to centro or use fb and pull girls from dirt poor neighborhoods you're going to see one thing.
Then if you pull an IG model who lives in Envigado and goes out once in a while to make extra $$, there is a very clear difference.
I'm not here to judge anyones taste in women. As long as you're happy spending 40 mil or 4 million. It doesn't matter how one goes about their biz.
But it seems like the ones most stuck in their ways are the ones that think these girls shouldn't be paid etc etc. And meanwhile they are walking around with the newest iPhones and bags etc etc.
Higher price doesn't mean worst service.
And also when using the country's average income remember Colombia is a very very big country.
And while most parts are poor if you take only medellin and Bogota average income the number would probably be higher. I don't know exacts. But if you stay in poblado do you feel like you're in a third world country??
Bravo amigo. Well said.
You're double my age but I hope I don't become bitter like you when I can only get it up once a day.
I live in Colombia 6 months out of the year, and trust me, the girls who you spend just "110 k" for some baileys think you're a fool, and they talk about it after they pay 5 k for their own club Colombia when they're fucking their barrio boyfriend for free.
Trust me on this one dude.
And jjbee, to answer your question, yes, the daily wage matters, that's why girls 18-30 would rather make $150 on only fans or the streetwalker around college town makes 80-$100 in an hour instead of working $10 an hour in retail.
Paying any girl more than 100 k to fuck in Colombia is insanity. Just like paying any girl over $200 to fuck in the usa is insanity. Both double the daily wages.
I thought as you age you get wiser? A lot of old dudes here have no chill, no objectivity, and seem set in their ways.
That's why they're always the creepy ones in the flights and immigration lines, out of shape, balding / grey, but think they're badass because they fly to the third world and fuck some universitaria for 12 $ usd. With that creepy smile on their face as they're waiting to show their passports to the immigration officers.
And then you spend your life on these forums acting as some kind of authority, LOL. Congrats, great life.
And no offense to surfer, you're a legend.
What is more pathetic are young guys with no game who have to live / travel to poor countries and use P4 P to get laid. I never had to buy pussy until I was in my 50's.Completely agreed. Young guys who think their something special or gods gift to these women because they make more money compared to other Colombians. Hahahah.
But meanwhile they ain't shit here in the states.
Higher priced and most times just obviously better looking.
You'll be suprised how many of these girls will be going.
Both fallacious.
Then if you pull an IG model who lives in Envigado and goes out once in a while to make extra $$, there is a very clear difference.
The only clear difference you can guarantee is the amount of money remaining in your bank account after the date.
Higher price doesn't mean worst service.
Correct. On this we do agree. It simply means higher price. Nothing more, nothing less.
I see you young guys too. Mostly scrawny nerds who can't compete for normal women in the first world.I don't think you do. I didn't say I am young, I said I started young. I always could compete for women in the first world when I was younger. But I rejected it bcos I didn't want to play 'the game". I saw thru it all, how ridiculous it was. I didn't want a bitter and overweight wife, 2. 2 kids, a dog, an expensive car, and a mortgage, I refused to play that game anymore.
If you don't see that as a rational explanation, I pity you.
Both fallacious.
The only clear difference you can guarantee is the amount of money remaining in your bank account after the date.
Correct. On this we do agree. It simply means higher price. Nothing more, nothing less.We have different views on what he consider attractive or hot.
But in MY eyes there's a clear difference from the average centro girl to the average high end girl.
And I'm sure centro has their diamonds but from my experiences it's like night and day.
AmorPorFavor
10-12-22, 18:54
I don't think you do. I didn't say I am young, I said I started young. I always could compete for women in the first world when I was younger. But I rejected it bcos I didn't want to play 'the game". I saw thru it all, how ridiculous it was. I didn't want a bitter and overweight wife, 2. 2 kids, a dog, an expensive car, and a mortgage, I refused to play that game anymore.
If you don't see that as a rational explanation, I pity you.I was responding to Johnny's out of the blue attack on old guys. Nothing to do with you unless the shoe fits. And don't pity me. I live a great life in San Diego CA USA and have 2 hot 22 year old sugar babies in Tijuana who like to spend the night with me for cheap. No condoms and I'm down there every week.
NeilGeorge
10-12-22, 18:58
have 2 hot 22 year old sugar babies in Tijuana who like to spend the night with me for cheap. No condoms and I'm down there every week.How many Mexicans do they have, no condoms, on the other days of the week?
And don't pity me. I live a great life in San Diego CA USA and have 2 hot 22 year old sugar babies in Tijuana who like to spend the night with me for cheap.Then I pity you for not seeing the light until at least 50 years.
But in MY eyes there's a clear difference from the average centro girl to the average high end girl.
The only thing high or higher about your girls is the price. And where your mind is if you think it means anything else. Hehe.
Incrociatore
10-12-22, 19:45
Higher priced and most times just obviously better looking.
You'll be suprised how many of these girls will be going.
And this is the point I make about different surroundings.
If you go to centro or use fb and pull girls from dirt poor neighborhoods you're going to see one thing.
Then if you pull an IG model who lives in Envigado and goes out once in a while to make extra $$, there is a very clear difference.
I'm not here to judge anyones taste in women. As long as you're happy spending 40 mil or 4 million. It doesn't matter how one goes about their biz.
But it seems like the ones most stuck in their ways are the ones that think these girls shouldn't be paid etc etc. And meanwhile they are walking around with the newest iPhones and bags etc etc.
Higher price doesn't mean worst service.
And also when using the country's average income remember Colombia is a very very big country.
And while most parts are poor if you take only medellin and Bogota average income the number would probably be higher. I don't know exacts. But if you stay in poblado do you feel like you're in a third world country??I would like to have a link of a couple of those Instagram models you mentioned, I want to see the level we are talking about. Because I have over 400 contacts on Facebook and they are all Colombian girls and all from Medellin. I add them daily. Some are gorgeous, the whole package, big ass (some with implants) and fake tits, lips, all done. Now, that costs money, it's not that surgery is cheap.
I read the colleague paid 40 k but I doubt he paid for one of these girls, because they do sell their videos for 20 k and they make video calls for 40 k. I suppose they will ask more for a fuck. Since I didn't speak with any of these girls (yet), I would like to know how much they ask. And I am not talking about the average looking but the most beautifuls.
Between my contacts I even have a Colombian singer from Medellin. She posts a lot of stories on Facebook, and she must be famous because in her videos she has a lot of fans, mostly kids.
There is a girl in Brazil who has 2 millions followers on TikTok. When I was in Sao Paulo (she is from another city), I tried to contact her twice and she didn't bother to answer. I don't think she makes any money on TikTok, but I imagine there is a queue of people who want to fuck her. So I guess she ain't cheap.
We have different views on what he consider attractive or hot.
But in MY eyes there's a clear difference from the average centro girl to the average high end girl.
And I'm sure centro has their diamonds but from my experiences it's like night and day.It's doubtful that you've ever explored Centro based on what you've told us, as to the casas and strip clubs. You're stuck with the illusionary "high end" places like Gustos, Loutron, and La Isla, and maybe some Facebook. But these girls are all from the same handful of lower end barrios. Just ask them as most don't mind telling you. For your extra money you're sure to get more silicone overall but that's about it. There's plenty of great looking girls in the organized Centro venues if you take the time to explore, many of whom are fresh in from Venezuela.
P.S. If you want extra time, to chat and the like with a girl you have next to nothing in common with, or one that can prop up GFE fantasies you have going in your head, this can be had from girls who work in Centro casas and strip clubs. Just get their Whatapp and chat about an arrangement.
What is more pathetic are young guys with no game who have to live / travel to poor countries and use P4 P to get laid. I never had to buy pussy until I was in my 50's.The way I see it if its pathetic for a young guy to use P$P its pathetic for an old guy to do it. In my view I don't think paying for the services of a prostitute is pathetic at all as long as both sexes are consenting adults. She gets paid and he gets laid utilizing the worlds oldest contractual arrangement. I have observed for decades now that the only people who criticize prostitution are people who cannot partake whether because they have been mentally conditioned, are in the public eye or impotent.
Why'all hear about the dude that died. A sweet Georgia Cafe regular and a firefighter that's been missing since the 6th. Lived in Bello.
Fucked up!
FlowState985
10-12-22, 23:52
Was at Rio Negro Airport yesterday and tried using the Scotia Bank / Colpatria ATM by entrance 4 on the departure level. I've been using this machine for at least two years and yesterday for the first time they showed a proposed conversion rate which was ridiculous with a 6% fee which I declined and then the transaction didn't go thru. I tried a second time and it didn't go thru. So I thought when declining you would be given whatever the market rate is.
I typically only make ATM with drawls from the ScotiaBank ATM at the EXITO in Poblado and have never seen a proposed conversion rate before on the transaction screens. I know a lot other Colombian banks are doing the conversion thing, however this is the first time I've seen it at ScotiaBank / Colpatria and I don't like it, it was almost like the bank was saying take what we are offering, or leave it as we won't be giving you the market rate.That's interesting because I always get asked to convert but always declined. I never get my transaction declined like you stated.
What is more pathetic are young guys with no game who have to live / travel to poor countries and use P4 P to get laid. I never had to buy pussy until I was in my 50's.I would also like to ask - How was your sex life when you were 49? And how did it change when you started paying fro sex when you hit the 50's? Did it improve when you started paying for it? In which case, don't you think it was you that was pathetic for not paying for it before?
My sex life certainly improved in my early 30's when I started paying for sex. No more BS gender / society games, pretending your interested in a girl, just so that you can get in to her kinckers, no more need to go to clubs, restaurants, pubs and go thru the chatting up ritual. My god, it was pathetic. But each to his own. I guess you enjoyed it.
I did. But you missed my mango allegory and for some unknown reason, you started chatting about mangos. Hehe.You need to enlighten me. Hehe.
Like beef in Brazil...My friend never knew fruits could look so good until one day the government gave away the fruits for free when there was an import ban. There was an incident overseas that some of fruits was found to have been injected with poisonous substance by someone.
...If you go to centro or use fb and pull girls from dirt poor neighborhoods you're going to see one thing....
But it seems like the ones most stuck in their ways are the ones that think these girls shouldn't be paid etc etc. And meanwhile they are walking around with the newest iPhones and bags etc etc.
...I think you need to clarify the context, and not just use price for comparison. I can tell you my observation. I have not seen any girl in El Centro or FB that is in college, not that it means anything, but clearly some prefer those so I am using it as an example. In that case, they are not stuck as they specifically talk about centro girls. They maybe stuck in that they don't want to pursue outside of that, but maybe not, what do they get out of it? It's like the mangos. If your purpose is only to eat it, then they are pretty much the same after you remove the outside layer. I can't tell the difference. Besides, pretty girls can be born anywhere in Medellin. You are looking for something that others don't. You will never get an agreement out of the discussion here.
....But if you stay in poblado do you feel like you're in a third world country...It depends on how you look at it. There are very few nice cars, like BMW or Mercedes. It's a nice area but that is not the determine standard and it is still cheap even by Latin America standard.
Higher priced and most times just obviously better looking.
You'll be suprised how many of these girls will be going.
And this is the point I make about different surroundings.
If you go to centro or use fb and pull girls from dirt poor neighborhoods you're going to see one thing.
Then if you pull an IG model who lives in Envigado and goes out once in a while to make extra $$, there is a very clear difference.
I'm not here to judge anyones taste in women. As long as you're happy spending 40 mil or 4 million. It doesn't matter how one goes about their biz.
But it seems like the ones most stuck in their ways are the ones that think these girls shouldn't be paid etc etc. And meanwhile they are walking around with the newest iPhones and bags etc etc.
Higher price doesn't mean worst service.
And also when using the country's average income remember Colombia is a very very big country.
And while most parts are poor if you take only medellin and Bogota average income the number would probably be higher. I don't know exacts. But if you stay in poblado do you feel like you're in a third world country??The average income is over 4 million pesos per month. Most people that throw out Colombian income are going from the Colombian minimum wage (and including the transportation subsidy).
However, neither number is particularly useful.
Why'all hear about the dude that died. A sweet Georgia Cafe regular and a firefighter that's been missing since the 6th. Lived in Bello.
Fucked up!Yes. Heard about it, but he lived in Belen, not Bello. I didn't know he was a firefighter. Now I'll have to look at it again because I know a retired firefighter who would be about the right age.
Was at Rio Negro Airport yesterday and tried using the Scotia Bank / Colpatria ATM by entrance 4 on the departure level. I've been using this machine for at least two years and yesterday for the first time they showed a proposed conversion rate which was ridiculous with a 6% fee which I declined and then the transaction didn't go thru. I tried a second time and it didn't go thru. So I thought when declining you would be given whatever the market rate is.
I typically only make ATM with drawls from the ScotiaBank ATM at the EXITO in Poblado and have never seen a proposed conversion rate before on the transaction screens. I know a lot other Colombian banks are doing the conversion thing, however this is the first time I've seen it at ScotiaBank / Colpatria and I don't like it, it was almost like the bank was saying take what we are offering, or leave it as we won't be giving you the market rate.I think your transaction was declined due to some other reason besides not accepting the conversion rate. It could have been a number of issues as to why it was declined, it could have even been something not to do with your card like maybe the ATM didn't have enough cash left to dispense the amount you were trying to withdraw.
I know one day Davivienda was declining me for no apparent reason I could figure out but then I went to BBVA and my card worked fine. And the next day I went to Davivienda agn and it worked fine and has been ever since.
Usually if one ATM doesn't work just try another one.
-abacho.
I would also like to ask - How was your sex life when you were 49? And how did it change when you started paying fro sex when you hit the 50's? Did it improve when you started paying for it? In which case, don't you think it was you that was pathetic for not paying for it before?
My sex life certainly improved in my early 30's when I started paying for sex. No more BS gender / society games, pretending your interested in a girl, just so that you can get in to her kinckers, no more need to go to clubs, restaurants, pubs and go thru the chatting up ritual. My god, it was pathetic. But each to his own. I guess you enjoyed it.To be honest, in my 30's and 40's I saw no reason to monger. I would on occasion pickup a hooker, but mostly out of boredom. Only 1 of them was worth the effort. Finding girls for sex wasn't difficult. No silly games, or other BS. Just chat a bit, meet and fuck. Sometimes I bought us dinner, sometimes they cooked for me. Often I was an afternoon booty call while the husband was at work. No, I don't feel guilty about that. I was doing the husbands a favor. If she's going to fuck around, better she does it with someone who won't give her a disease, knock her up, or try to break up the marriage.
Through much of my 40's I was in a committed relationship with a swinger, giving me the best of both worlds. On the weekends we'd go to a club and I usually fucked 2 or 3 different women (while their husbands fucked my girl), watched plenty of girl on girl, with participation before blowing my load in my girl. After we split, tried dating a few times but nothing special.
Then 1 night I met a girl at a bar for a date and she was hideous. Maybe 10 teeth and she was a chain smoker. Stopped dating right there. There had already been a few episodes when I realized I was no longer enjoying the women who were readily available to me.
Through most of my 50's I mongered, both locally and in Colombia, with one trip to the DR. The women who are readily available are young, fit and beautiful, plus I can afford it now. In my 30's paying for sex was a strain on the budget.
While the sex is often great, it's rarely the best sex of my life. I'm always aware that she's there for the money. She might like me, she might enjoy her time with me, but without the money it's not happening. Another factor is my age. It's hard to go at it the way I once did.
Now I have a girlfriend again. Yes, she's in it for the money, but it's not as obvious. It's not perfect. We get along quite well and sexually, if I'm willing to make the effort, I can rock her world. However, I'm not sure I want anything permanent. I enjoy my alone time and I'm not sure how long 1 girl is going to interest me.
For guys in their 20's and 30's who are only doing p4 p, I don't have a problem with it. In my opinion they are missing out on some of the best stuff in life, but maybe those things aren't of interest to them.
I would like to have a link of a couple of those Instagram models you mentioned....He posted one link. Look up his old post. But you don't really need to do it. If you just want to get an idea about their appearance, you can pretty much look up girls on IG from Medellin, and assume everyone is for sale at a price, just like many other countries.
A friend who spoke to an agency here told me you can get an exclusive catalog for high price hookers with a deposit, including some popular IG girls.
My sex life certainly improved in my early 30's when I started paying for sex. No more BS gender / society games, pretending your interested in a girl, just so that you can get in to her kinckers, no more need to go to clubs, restaurants, pubs and go thru the chatting up ritual. My god, it was pathetic. But each to his own. I guess you enjoyed it.It's interesting when and why guys become mongers. So many stories I've heard as to why, ranging from a divorce to becoming a widower and for other reasons. I started after being married for twenty years and divorcing and was around 50. I can relate to sex being a totally better as a monger. And if I knew what I know now, I probably would of never been married, as the thought of having sex with a woman your same age, and over and over again is just incomprehensible. The only thing I got out of being married was two great children, and other than for procreating, marriage seems like a total waste at least to me.
I will never forget the first time I went to the Hotel Del Rey in the CR over a decade ago when the place was full of Colombians, and guys would show up who where in the process of getting divorced and a few totally out of their minds with the torment of going thru a divorce and the Colombians would approach the guys, and boom with a Benjamin Franklin in hand, they would be upstairs, and some would be back down in less than 30 minutes, and the Colombians would be back downstairs with a Cheshire Cat look on their face while prowling for another guy down and out on their luck in the Del Rey.
And the stories of some of the widowers being married to the same women for over thirty years and had never had sex with a different woman. One widower told me he had never had oral sex with his wife, and probably only ever fucked her in missionary. Imagine guys like this all of a sudden getting exposed to everything under the sun as a monger.
It's all good as far as I'm concerned being a monger.
Andersson25
10-13-22, 19:57
I love Jomtien in Thailand. Not as much party as in Pattaya but still some action in the evenings, you can go out solo, drink cheap, get a little drunk, have a lot of fun, play pool, watch sports, pick up a girl and go home. So I am planning to do this when visiting Colombia for the first time soon. I know a little Spanish so I was thinking about staying in Laureles instead of the reccomended newbie-destination Poblado. Poblado seem to be more expensive (Airbnb, Hotels, Bars, Food, Girls?) + it seem to be a lot of party for the younger crowd, I have grey hair and prefer a decent level of party:-the What do you think, does it work to go out solo and hang out with unknown people on bars if you are a solo gringo or will I just look like a fcking stranger? Better to stick to Poblado? Better to stay out of Colombia?
I love Jomtien in Thailand. Not as much party as in Pattaya but still some action in the evenings, you can go out solo, drink cheap, get a little drunk, have a lot of fun, play pool, watch sports, pick up a girl and go home. So I am planning to do this when visiting Colombia for the first time soon. I know a little Spanish so I was thinking about staying in Laureles instead of the reccomended newbie-destination Poblado. Poblado seem to be more expensive (Airbnb, Hotels, Bars, Food, Girls?) + it seem to be a lot of party for the younger crowd, I have grey hair and prefer a decent level of party:-the What do you think, does it work to go out solo and hang out with unknown people on bars if you are a solo gringo or will I just look like a fcking stranger? Better to stick to Poblado? Better to stay out of Colombia?Colombia isn't Thailand. What works in Thailand won't necessarily work in Colombia.
There are risks. The biggest risk is that someone might drug you and rob you. You might wake up feeling bad and missing your stuff, or they might find your body 2 weeks later.
How big of a risk depends on you. There are a few bars frequented by gringos were you will be safer.
Another issue is that Colombia doesn't have many bars where girls hang out waiting for customers. There are strip clubs and there are bars in El Centro where girls try to get you to buy overpriced drinks. There are a few other places where you can find a few girls working, but you might visit 10 bars before finding a girl.
These are the standard prices on Medellin. Your costs may vary.
Street girls - 30-40 k in El Centro, 200-250 k in Parque Lleras.
Casas - 50-60 k for half hrs, 80-100 k for hour. Some places charge more.
Tinder - 200-400 k for hour, some want more.
Facebook - 150-400 k for 1-2 hours.
Photoprepagos and Mileroticos- 80-150 k per hour.
Strip Clubs- from 80 k to over 300 k for 30-45 minutes.
Casas, strip clubs, Photoprepagos and Mileroticos are generally in-call. You're doing the deed on their property. Facebook and Tinder are in your place. All of the above may require extra payment for BBBJ, BBFS and anal. Outcall girls they may require extra for taxi fare.
What you should pay is what works for you. Those prices are guidelines. Many girls will give a much higher price at first. Knowing what is standard will help you to keep it reasonable.
ILikeButts
10-13-22, 23:37
Various suggestions have been made of late for splitting this thread into separate forums. How about:
--One for sharing useful information and instructive or entertaining experiences in Paisa Pussyland;.
--and one (lets call it Ego-Tripping in Medellin) for making smug, snarky, judgmental comments about other Board Members.Nil thank you for being the voice of reason. I too would prefer information over personal attacks.
Mr Enternational
10-13-22, 23:54
The average income is over 4 million pesos per month. Most people that throw out Colombian income are going from the Colombian minimum wage (and including the transportation subsidy).
However, neither number is particularly useful.I disagree. If a chick could make 4 million on a regular job then she probably would not be hoeing. I know one person's junk is another person's treasure, but if she is not worth 4 million on a regular job market where she would undergo more screening than I could possibly give, then she damn sure is not worth 4 million pesos to me.
LoveItHere69
10-14-22, 00:02
Scotia Bank / Colpatria ATM. Yesterday for the first time they showed a proposed conversion rate which was ridiculous with a 6% fee which I declined and then the transaction didn't go thru. I tried a second time and it didn't go thru. I had the same thing happen (even though 2 years ago). I think it was BBVA. It cancelled my transaction as soon as I declined the conversion. Tried weeks later and same thing. The ATM cancelled my transaction and spit my card out.
I love Jomtien in Thailand. Not as much party as in Pattaya but still some action in the evenings, you can go out solo, drink cheap, get a little drunk, have a lot of fun, play pool, watch sports, pick up a girl and go home. So I am planning to do this when visiting Colombia for the first time soon. I know a little Spanish so I was thinking about staying in Laureles instead of the reccomended newbie-destination Poblado. Poblado seem to be more expensive (Airbnb, Hotels, Bars, Food, Girls?) + it seem to be a lot of party for the younger crowd, I have grey hair and prefer a decent level of party:-the What do you think, does it work to go out solo and hang out with unknown people on bars if you are a solo gringo or will I just look like a fcking stranger? Better to stick to Poblado? Better to stay out of Colombia?If you plan on going to Setenta be aware that very few people chill in the restaurants and bars alone so be prepared to take a nice young lady with you. There are gringo faces about and no one will care one way or the other in that area.
Mr Enternational
10-14-22, 04:41
I love Jomtien in Thailand. Not as much party as in Pattaya but still some action in the evenings, you can go out solo, drink cheap, get a little drunk, have a lot of fun, play pool, watch sports, pick up a girl and go home. So I am planning to do this when visiting ColombiaWhere do you plan to pick up the girl from? Laureles is not Pattaya.
Elvis 2008
10-14-22, 06:07
What is more pathetic are young guys with no game who have to live / travel to poor countries and use P4 P to get laid. I never had to buy pussy until I was in my 50's.I do not get the "not paying for it" part. One time there was a stripper who gave me her number after taking care of me in the club. After texting her, her BF calls me and says "she does not do that (sex for money) any more. " he was so upset and heartbroken then I did not say what I wanted to which was "Dude, when did she say that? Because 10 minutes ago, my dick was in her mouth."
I just wonder what illusion this guy was under while he was "not paying for it." Was he fixing her car? Babysitting her kid?
I was married to a woman with an amazing figure: large natural breasts and a 24 inch waist. So I guess I could say that I did not pay for her, but OTOH she was the most expensive pussy I ever had.
And I talked to guys in the 1970's free love era. They said fucking was like a handshake then. When I was in college, the AIDS bug hit and everyone was scared out of their mind that if they had sex, they would die. It is totally unfair to compare those eras.
And when I went to a strip club back in 2000 when the dot com boom was going on, the women were gorgeous, and the type I like, the spinner type, was available in abundance. I went to a club the other day, and there was one (one!) spinner type, and she was from Cuba. Half the strippers were fat.
And in the 2000 decade, you could get a fucking knockout escort for $200. Now $200 an hour gets you 300 pounds. I perused an escort directory a few months ago and found one I liked. She wanted $1000 for an hour. Hell, if my ex were 25 and in the market today, she would have shredded guys with ivy league degrees making seven figures fighting over her.
From where I sit looking at the USA market, guys going to Colombia (and Mexico) and paying for it are the smart ones. The only decent looking women in strip clubs (and most of society now) are Latinas and Asians and going to the source nets you huge discounts.
And I am not "paying for it" now, but just like with the wife, it would be a helluva lot cheaper if I were. So I could look down on guys who are paying for it now but why? They are paying less for it than I am.
Andersson25
10-14-22, 14:38
That is what I was guessing, I was thinking to go out to pick up a lady, but if you need a lady to go out. 😂. I will do some Tinder as well, I hope not all on Tinder are out there just to rob me with some scopolamine.
If you plan on going to Setenta be aware that very few people chill in the restaurants and bars alone so be prepared to take a nice young lady with you. There are gringo faces about and no one will care one way or the other in that area.
Various suggestions have been made of late for splitting this thread into separate forums. How about:
--One for sharing useful information and instructive or entertaining experiences in Paisa Pussyland;.
--and one (lets call it Ego-Tripping in Medellin) for making smug, snarky, judgmental comments about other Board Members.People are going to post wherever they like, and that will be this thread more than 90% of the time, so I don't think it will work in reality.
I know your intention is good. My guess is the poster won't post if the poster is consciously aware of it. This suggestion basically is telling admin to work (moving posts) so some members can enjoy. That is how I read it.
You can try Davivienda. It's also a no fee option. I've never been denied a transaction. They do offer the dreaded rip off conversion rate. Since we still from time to time see guys get caught out by the offer it's worthwhile to mention that we must never accept it.
Was at Rio Negro Airport yesterday and tried using the Scotia Bank / Colpatria ATM by entrance 4 on the departure level. I've been using this machine for at least two years and yesterday for the first time they showed a proposed conversion rate which was ridiculous with a 6% fee which I declined and then the transaction didn't go thru. I tried a second time and it didn't go thru. So I thought when declining you would be given whatever the market rate is.
I typically only make ATM with drawls from the ScotiaBank ATM at the EXITO in Poblado and have never seen a proposed conversion rate before on the transaction screens. I know a lot other Colombian banks are doing the conversion thing, however this is the first time I've seen it at ScotiaBank / Colpatria and I don't like it, it was almost like the bank was saying take what we are offering, or leave it as we won't be giving you the market rate.
Mr Enternational
10-15-22, 02:31
And I am not "paying for it" now, but just like with the wife, it would be a helluva lot cheaper if I were. So I could look down on guys who are paying for it now but why? They are paying less for it than I am.The other day in one of my fb groups a buddy posed the question, "What's the appropriate amount of money that should be spent on the 1st date? Are $200 dates a thing of the past?" I said, "Who the fuck is spending $200 to go out with a stranger?
Is this really a thing? If it is then I totally understand why some young guy would rather travel and pay directly for a sure thing.
This is a good and accurate summary. If you find yourself well north of these guidelines you should reassess.
These are the standard prices on Medellin. Your costs may vary.
Street girls - 30-40 k in El Centro, 200-250 k in Parque Lleras.
Casas - 50-60 k for half hrs, 80-100 k for hour. Some places charge more.
Tinder - 200-400 k for hour, some want more.
Facebook - 150-400 k for 1-2 hours.
Photoprepagos and Mileroticos- 80-150 k per hour.
Strip Clubs- from 80 k to over 300 k for 30-45 minutes.
Casas, strip clubs, Photoprepagos and Mileroticos are generally in-call. You're doing the deed on their property. Facebook and Tinder are in your place. All of the above may require extra payment for BBBJ, BBFS and anal. Outcall girls they may require extra for taxi fare.
What you should pay is what works for you. Those prices are guidelines. Many girls will give a much higher price at first. Knowing what is standard will help you to keep it reasonable.
I disagree. If a chick could make 4 million on a regular job then she probably would not be hoeing. I know one person's junk is another person's treasure, but if she is not worth 4 million on a regular job market where she would undergo more screening than I could possibly give, then she damn sure is not worth 4 million pesos to me.What are you disagreeing with? That the average salary is over 4 million per month? Sources disagree.
https://biz30.timedoctor.com/average-salary-in-colombia/#salary-by-region.
Are you disagreeing that average salary and minimum wage earnings are meaningless? It's simple. If those numbers are the basis for pricing, then before you can decide what price is correct to ensure the girls are earning either average salary or minimum wage you need to know how many guys the girl will fuck that month to decide what portion is your responsibility.
And yes, that is silly. Nobody knows how many customers each girl will have and it's the girl's responsibility to figure out how much she needs to do to earn what she needs.
That's one reason why there are different prices. A girl who commits to a minimum of 3 hours for each customer can't charge the same price as a girl who is ready for a new customer every 30 minutes.
PigSavinBoy
10-15-22, 03:27
Street girls - 30-40 k in El Centro.Confirmed.
Casas - 50-60 k for half hrs, 80-100 k for hour. Some places charge more..Confirmed.
Strip Clubs- from 80 k to over 300 k for 30-45 minutes.
Starting from 60 k hh in the 'lowbrow' places like Taberna Victoria or Grill Occidental.
I had the same thing happen (even though 2 years ago). I think it was BBVA. It cancelled my transaction as soon as I declined the conversion. Tried weeks later and same thing. The ATM cancelled my transaction and spit my card out.Five days ago I tried using the Scotia / Colpatria ATM machine at Rio Negro Airport and they had the conversion bullshit, where as yesterday in using the Scotia / Colpatria ATM at the EXITO in Poblado there was no conversion screen.
I think what the banks are doing, besides hoping a stupid person will accept the conversion, they are programming machines in certain locations to have the conversion bullshit. And an airport is perfect, they are hoping for a dazed traveler to accept the conversion which can be so profitable for them.
This is done in a lot of other Countries at travel hubs and heavy tourist locations.
As an example I was in Aruba a few weeks ago in a heavy duty tourist area with lots of shops, bars, and eating places. There was like one ATM machine in the complex and I had USD, but wanted some of the local currency, and tried using the machine, but it was totally convoluted so I aborted the transaction, knowing I was going to get hosed. Imagine someone having no cash and needing it desperately this is what I'm assuming some of the banks thinking is. It's no different than so many hookers asking for more than the market rate and hoping to get a sucker, with nothing to lose in the process.
As far as the USD to COP rate, I'm wondering when it's going to 5,000 COP to the USD as it just seems to keep going up.
People are going to post wherever they like, and that will be this thread more than 90% of the time, so I don't think it will work in reality.
I know your intention is good. My guess is the poster won't post if the poster is consciously aware of it. This suggestion basically is telling admin to work (moving posts) so some members can enjoy. That is how I read it.The thought of dividing the Medellin thread into multiple categories would go a long way as because right now the Medellin thread is just a free for all and difficult for many to get information they need because of the shear number of posts. If a guy wants to talk about Fayboo Chicas, why not in a Fayboo / Tinder section, maybe a Parque Lleras section, an El Centro section, a casa section, and a nightclub bar section,. This would be no different than say the Tijuana sub-sections and doesn't make sense why it hasn't been done yet here.
And yes people are going to post whatever they like, but having sub-categories I think would help clean things up instead of being such a free for all with just one category versus several sub-categories.
These are the standard prices on Medellin. Your costs may vary.
Street girls - 30-40 k in El Centro, 200-250 k in Parque Lleras.
Casas - 50-60 k for half hrs, 80-100 k for hour. Some places charge more.
Tinder - 200-400 k for hour, some want more.
Facebook - 150-400 k for 1-2 hours.
Photoprepagos and Mileroticos- 80-150 k per hour.
Strip Clubs- from 80 k to over 300 k for 30-45 minutes.
Casas, strip clubs, Photoprepagos and Mileroticos are generally in-call. You're doing the deed on their property. Facebook and Tinder are in your place. All of the above may require extra payment for BBBJ, BBFS and anal. Outcall girls they may require extra for taxi fare.
What you should pay is what works for you. Those prices are guidelines. Many girls will give a much higher price at first. Knowing what is standard will help you to keep it reasonable.Thanks for the great summary but can someone please clarify if the 30-40 k in El Centro is for an hour? Or is it just for 30 minutes?
TIA.
Mr Enternational
10-15-22, 15:12
Are you disagreeing that average salary and minimum wage earnings are meaningless? It's simple. If those numbers are the basis for pricing, then before you can decide what price is correct to ensure the girls are earning either average salary or minimum wage you need to know how many guys the girl will fuck that month to decide what portion is your responsibility.Yes that is the part I was disagreeing with. I am not saying there is a correct price or percentage, but there is a such thing as local value for money. (It seems many punters instead look at back home value for money, which really baffles me). If you know local people are making x for the entire month, but for 2 hours you are giving an uneducated sex worker one-fifth of what an average person is making the entire month then there is indeed an imbalance.
You know the local person is not giving a fifth of their monthly salary like that. And like has been said you don't see a ton of chicks living in penthouses and driving around in Mercedes so you know they are not collecting that from every Dick on a regular basis. So yes it is meaningful to know what local people in normal normal jobs actually earn if you are at all concerned about the local value that you are getting for your money.
Nil Admirari
10-15-22, 15:23
These are the standard prices on Medellin. Your costs may vary.
Street girls - 30-40 k in El Centro, 200-250 k in Parque Lleras.
Casas - 50-60 k for half hrs, 80-100 k for hour. Some places charge more.
Tinder - 200-400 k for hour, some want more.
Facebook - 150-400 k for 1-2 hours.
Photoprepagos and Mileroticos- 80-150 k per hour.
Strip Clubs- from 80 k to over 300 k for 30-45 minutes.
Casas, strip clubs, Photoprepagos and Mileroticos are generally in-call. You're doing the deed on their property. Facebook and Tinder are in your place. All of the above may require extra payment for BBBJ, BBFS and anal. Outcall girls they may require extra for taxi fare......Agreed, JjBee provides an accurate and pretty comprehensive summary of the Medellin pussy-pricing regime. A few footnotes to the above, based on my experience:
1) I usually frequent the in-call venues (casas, strip clubs, mileroticos) to, in effect, audition / recruit potential keepers to invite to my apartment (for don't-watch-the-clock sessions of up to two or three hours and to refresh my rotating stable of regulars). At first, since, when visiting me, the ladies don't have to split the payment with casa / strip club owners, I expected to be able to negotiate a discount from the casa / club price or at least pay about the same as for on-the-premise sex, even though they would be spending an hour or more with me and have to travel. In reality, my experience has varied.
--Visits to my place by Centro casa and stripclub girls have usually cost me 150 to 200 k plus transport. (This includes an implicit 30-80 k propina for DFK / BBBJ, and sometimes for BBFS, which I would be paying whether sessioning at the casa / club or in my apartment.
--I've pulled girls from the next-to-top-tier clubs (Luna Lunera, San Diego) for as low as 250 to 300, for repeat visits of several hours with DFK / BBBJ and, in one case, BBFS.
--Just before leaving Medellin in September, I had my first session (with super service) from a Milerotico escort, at her In-call location and then a great three hour session in my apartment (at the end of her regular hours). Price: 150 k for the In-call but she had a firm, standard 100 k extra charge for out-call. I have no idea if this is pretty standard for Mileroticos and Photoprepagos. Does anyone have more experience?
-At Las Islas, Fase II, Spa Fantasias Energy, and Loutrons, I have had virtually no luck getting the few super hot chicas that have caught my eye to offer DFK / BBBJ even for a generous (up to 100 k) propina. One exception--a buxom, blond beauty at Fase II (claimed to be getting a Pharmacy degree) with whom I had a supper, on-site GFE session, but who wasn't available for outcall. That said, if one isn't holding out for the one or two super beauties on the premises, one can find some more amenable to providing the GFE-style extras.
Happy hunting and to each his own.
ILikeButts
10-15-22, 16:44
Great post I just added it to the reports of distinction as a good resource, especially for the newbies who would otherwise need to spend hours RTFF to arrive at this same info.
These are the standard prices on Medellin. Your costs may vary.
Street girls - 30-40 k in El Centro, 200-250 k in Parque Lleras.
Casas - 50-60 k for half hrs, 80-100 k for hour. Some places charge more.
Tinder - 200-400 k for hour, some want more.
Facebook - 150-400 k for 1-2 hours.
Photoprepagos and Mileroticos- 80-150 k per hour.
Strip Clubs- from 80 k to over 300 k for 30-45 minutes.
Casas, strip clubs, Photoprepagos and Mileroticos are generally in-call. You're doing the deed on their property. Facebook and Tinder are in your place. All of the above may require extra payment for BBBJ, BBFS and anal. Outcall girls they may require extra for taxi fare.
What you should pay is what works for you. Those prices are guidelines. Many girls will give a much higher price at first. Knowing what is standard will help you to keep it reasonable.
ILikeButts
10-15-22, 16:51
The other day in one of my fb groups a buddy posed the question, "What's the appropriate amount of money that should be spent on the 1st date? Are $200 dates a thing of the past?" I said, "Who the fuck is spending $200 to go out with a stranger?
Is this really a thing? If it is then I totally understand why some young guy would rather travel and pay directly for a sure thing.A friend of mine in Miami told me about taking a chick out for drinks and food on a first date. He said total cost including valet parking was about $150. And no he did not get laid. I thought holy shit I could have banged three paisas for that! If I went to Centro it would be more like 8 or 10.
I can understand why guys don't want to pay girls directly, I used to feel that way. Glad I eventually changed my mind on that issue, I'm having a lot more fun now.
ILikeButts
10-15-22, 17:00
I do not get the "not paying for it" part.
Agreed, for those who think they are not paying for sex that just means they are on the "indirect payment plan." Most of the time, it is quite a bit more expensive.
Thanks for the great summary but can someone please clarify if the 30-40 k in El Centro is for an hour? Or is it just for 30 minutes?
TIA.But you may be able to spend more time with the chick if the circumstances are right.
Btw, yeah great summary from JjBee62, as usual
Andersson25
10-15-22, 17:17
Thanks JjBee62, you are on my fucking hero list. Newbee-questions to follow:
- Lleras is 5 times the price compared to El Centro for streetwalkers, is this because of better quality or because of chance of getting robbed / shot / drugged / stabbed is significantly higher in el Centro?
- Streetwalkers, I assume I take them back to my place? (it is not the BJ on a a parking-lot-option we are talking about?128514.
These are the standard prices on Medellin. Your costs may vary.
Street girls - 30-40 k in El Centro, 200-250 k in Parque Lleras.
Casas - 50-60 k for half hrs, 80-100 k for hour. Some places charge more.
Tinder - 200-400 k for hour, some want more.
Facebook - 150-400 k for 1-2 hours.
Photoprepagos and Mileroticos- 80-150 k per hour.
Strip Clubs- from 80 k to over 300 k for 30-45 minutes.
Casas, strip clubs, Photoprepagos and Mileroticos are generally in-call. You're doing the deed on their property. Facebook and Tinder are in your place. All of the above may require extra payment for BBBJ, BBFS and anal. Outcall girls they may require extra for taxi fare.
What you should pay is what works for you. Those prices are guidelines. Many girls will give a much higher price at first. Knowing what is standard will help you to keep it reasonable.
Andersson25
10-15-22, 17:24
Noted, you do not pick up girls in Laureles on the street or in bars, if there are any bars with many pro or semipro girls that would be great to know. Most seem to hang out on the streets in Lleras and El Centro.
Where do you plan to pick up the girl from? Laureles is not Pattaya.
ILikeButts
10-15-22, 17:49
Thanks JjBee62, you are on my fucking hero list. Newbee-questions to follow:
- Lleras is 5 times the price compared to El Centro for streetwalkers, is this because of better quality or because of chance of getting robbed / shot / drugged / stabbed is significantly higher in el Centro?
- Streetwalkers, I assume I take them back to my place? (it is not the BJ on a a parking-lot-option we are talking about?128514.I believe Lleras is much more expensive simply because there are a hell of a lot more tourists there. Relatively few in Centro. While I've been a few times to Centro I've never pulled the trigger so lots of other guys here can give you better info than me. IMO, on average Lleras girls are hotter. I only find about 10% of the Centro girls attractive but there are some. Generally, with Lleras girls you take them back to your place. In Centro you take them to a short term hotel, there are bunches of them in Centro.
Personally I prefer facebook to the other options. It is reasonably cheap and reasonably safe as long as you take some simple precautions.
As far as the danger issues:
- Getting shot / stabbed. Pretty rare it seems based on the lack of reports but it can happen anywhere (including Poblado, no it's not safe just because it's expensive). This typically happens during a mugging where the victim fought back. My rule is that if you show me a gun or knife I give you what you want, no fighting back. Fortunately never had to use this rule but I think it is a good idea to decide on this ahead of time.
- Getting robbed / drugged. Lots of youtube reports on guys getting scoped, although it seems like the risk is somewhat exaggerated if you use reasonable precautions. 90% of the stories I've heard involve tinder dates where the guy thought he was going to get laid for free, she was very eager to immediately come to his apartment (with no discussion of money) and when she arrived they had drinks. Next thing he knew it was the next day and the girl was gone along with his laptop, phone, wallet, etc.
But don't let the risks scare you off, MDE is lots of fun as long as you use a bit of common sense and are careful.
The other day in one of my fb groups a buddy posed the question, "What's the appropriate amount of money that should be spent on the 1st date? Are $200 dates a thing of the past?" I said, "Who the fuck is spending $200 to go out with a stranger?
Is this really a thing? If it is then I totally understand why some young guy would rather travel and pay directly for a sure thing.Depends on the date. A decent restaurant with dessert and drinks for 2 will cost $100 or more. Do a movie and add $50. Drinks and dancing might cost $50-$100 depending on how much she's drinking.
At my age, a date is just step 1 on the road to "Let's fuck" and there are only 2 steps. If you're looking for a partner, maybe a second or third date would be $200. You don't want to start with unreasonable expectations.
Also, that's exactly why I started paying for a sure thing. Why spend time and money on something old, wrinkled and carrying a lot of baggage, when something ypung and sweet can be had for less?
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