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Turgid
10-15-22, 18:04
A friend of mine in Miami told me about taking a chick out for drinks and food on a first date. He said total cost including valet parking was about $150. And no he did not get laid. I thought holy shit I could have banged three paisas for that! If I went to Centro it would be more like 8 or 10.

I can understand why guys don't want to pay girls directly, I used to feel that way. Glad I eventually changed my mind on that issue, I'm having a lot more fun now.The US $150 was not to get laid. It was an investment the returns of which would be banging a hot girl, who would be faithful to you, for free whenever you want to. As with Wall Street, sometimes you lose, sometimes you win.

JjBee62
10-15-22, 18:04
Thanks for the great summary but can someone please clarify if the 30-40 k in El Centro is for an hour? Or is it just for 30 minutes?

TIA.I planned to write a Pricing part 2 to discuss that. I'll do it here. I'm going off other's reports and not my own experience on this one. Also the masters of the El Centro scene are often able to get a better experience for the price. If you've spent 5 years pulling from those streets you're probably better at making a deal than the guy who is on his first visit.

30-40 k is the price for the girl for 30 minutes although it might only be 20 minutes. On top of that you need to pay for the room, 8-10 k or 12-16 k for a nicer room. If you want BBBJ you probably need to add 20 k. Possibly 50 k more for BBFS. If the girl knows you're new she may start out asking for 50 k, 70 k or even more.

JjBee62
10-15-22, 18:41
Yes that is the part I was disagreeing with. I am not saying there is a correct price or percentage, but there is a such thing as local value for money. (It seems many punters instead look at back home value for money, which really baffles me). If you know local people are making x for the entire month, but for 2 hours you are giving an uneducated sex worker one-fifth of what an average person is making the entire month then there is indeed an imbalance.

You know the local person is not giving a fifth of their monthly salary like that. And like has been said you don't see a ton of chicks living in penthouses and driving around in Mercedes so you know they are not collecting that from every Dick on a regular basis. So yes it is meaningful to know what local people in normal normal jobs actually earn if you are at all concerned about the local value that you are getting for your money.I understand what you're saying, but it's still meaningless. If you are only getting girls off the street in El Centro, or visiting the casas then yes, you should be sticking with the standard prices. You're getting what the typical Colombian guy is getting. The same is true if you eat in the same restaurants or ride the same buses. It makes no sense to pay more than the locals.

But not everyone is doing that. Even pulling girls off the street in Parque Lleras is different, even if it's the same girl. You're going to a much nicer room, probably your own and you're getting an hour. Not 30 minutes. The girls are only getting 1 or 2 customers a night, instead of 6-10, so they're cleaner and often better dressed with more energy and enthusiasm. YMMV.

Of course the girls in Lleras are hoping to find a chump, but that's true of hookers everywhere. I'm sure there are plenty in El Centro quoting 100 k or more when they see someone who looks out of his element.

Most of us aren't living like the average Colombian wage earner. We take taxis, instead of walking and taking the bus. We stay in nicer places, we eat better meals and drink better booze. And many of us don't see a need to limit ourselves to the average Colombian mongering style.

Instead of 30 minutes in a room of questionable cleanliness, we take 2 or 3 hours in a nice, clean room, possibly with a balcony or jacuzzi. Instead of a girl who might have already been with 5 customers, we get one who came fresh from her home, clean, well dressed (YMMV) and smelling sweet. We might take them to dinner, a movie or out drinking and dancing. It's a different experience and comes at a different price.

That experience isn't available for the typical Colombian who sees a hooker every other payday. It's hard to have a girl come over to the house where your wife and kids live (or where your mother lives). Certainly having a girl there for 2-3 hours of loud, sweaty sex is going to be a problem with your wife screaming and your mother beating you with her chancla.

The only question is whether or not guys should have the option of seeking a different mongering experience, or should be limited to only street girls and casas?

JjBee62
10-15-22, 18:57
Thanks JjBee62, you are on my fucking hero list. Newbee-questions to follow:

- Lleras is 5 times the price compared to El Centro for streetwalkers, is this because of better quality or because of chance of getting robbed / shot / drugged / stabbed is significantly higher in el Centro?

- Streetwalkers, I assume I take them back to my place? (it is not the BJ on a a parking-lot-option we are talking about?128514.1. Lleras prices are higher for a couple of reasons. First, you're in a more affluent area with a higher concentration of tourists. You're also paying for an hour instead of 30 minutes. The average in Lleras might be better looking than El Centro, but only because there are fewer girls. I would say your risk of getting robbed by a street girl is higher in Lleras.

2. El Centro street girls you take to a short time room, which they will take you to, unless you're staying in El Centro. You pay for the room. In Lleras typically you take them to your place (if you're staying in the area).

DonCarlos1234
10-15-22, 19:52
I do not get the "not paying for it" part. One time there was a stripper who gave me her number after taking care of me in the club. After texting her, her BF calls me and says "she does not do that (sex for money) any more. " he was so upset and heartbroken then I did not say what I wanted to which was "Dude, when did she say that? Because 10 minutes ago, my dick was in her mouth."

I just wonder what illusion this guy was under while he was "not paying for it." Was he fixing her car? Babysitting her kid?

I was married to a woman with an amazing figure: large natural breasts and a 24 inch waist. So I guess I could say that I did not pay for her, but OTOH she was the most expensive pussy I ever had.

And I talked to guys in the 1970's free love era. They said fucking was like a handshake then. When I was in college, the AIDS bug hit and everyone was scared out of their mind that if they had sex, they would die. It is totally unfair to compare those eras.

And when I went to a strip club back in 2000 when the dot com boom was going on, the women were gorgeous, and the type I like, the spinner type, was available in abundance. I went to a club the other day, and there was one (one!) spinner type, and she was from Cuba. Half the strippers were fat.

And in the 2000 decade, you could get a fucking knockout escort for $200. Now $200 an hour gets you 300 pounds. I perused an escort directory a few months ago and found one I liked. She wanted $1000 for an hour. Hell, if my ex were 25 and in the market today, she would have shredded guys with ivy league degrees making seven figures fighting over her.

From where I sit looking at the USA market, guys going to Colombia (and Mexico) and paying for it are the smart ones. The only decent looking women in strip clubs (and most of society now) are Latinas and Asians and going to the source nets you huge discounts.

And I am not "paying for it" now, but just like with the wife, it would be a helluva lot cheaper if I were. So I could look down on guys who are paying for it now but why? They are paying less for it than I am.Elvis you are eloquent. I was just thinking about this last night. LOL I was fortunate to have an open relationship, living together for 10 years. The sex was magnificent till we split. We stayed friends afterwards. Occasional sex. I never understood how people could be committed to someone for a lifetime.

Still, I went into therapy (12 step groups) over the breakup. And cycle of substances, sex and "love" addictions, with new partners I found. But it was later on living in Mexico that I discovered there was nothing wrong with paying for it and enjoying the company of a beautiful girl. I think it was my religious / societal brainwashing which kept me from happiness for many years. The self help therapy may have eased the transition but helped to continue the brainwashing. Living in the USA, I kept trying to find that "other person" that would make me happy. I always wanted a trophy girl and they were plentiful at the strip clubs. LOL, until living in Baja.

I discovered Adeletas and HKTJ (you walk in, and pick a girl) and that was fun. I dated a few of them. Colombia (and SA) brought me back to living life with interesting, beautiful young women. It feels much more natural and opens up many more possibilities for different kinds of relationships. Not entirely based on sex. Still mutually beneficial. Personally I don't think I want to invest the time to "settle down" even in another open relationship. (monogamous) I think having good friends (with benefits) is more than enough for me.

So I am headed back to Colombia to see some of the girls I know and meet a couple new ones. I might visit El Centro (for 10 minutes) and La Isla for a night. Most of the single girls in Colombia are not WG's. Once you have been to the Ranch, and had lots of Mangos it's difficult to be on the outside and get laid at the first encounter. No problem, the ranch is always there.

It is also true (for me) that meeting girls we cannot easily find or meet any other way on SA has destroyed my interest in almost anyone from other places. Especially in the USA.

JjBee62
10-16-22, 05:51
Yes that is the part I was disagreeing with. I am not saying there is a correct price or percentage, but there is a such thing as local value for money. (It seems many punters instead look at back home value for money, which really baffles me). If you know local people are making x for the entire month, but for 2 hours you are giving an uneducated sex worker one-fifth of what an average person is making the entire month then there is indeed an imbalance.

You know the local person is not giving a fifth of their monthly salary like that. And like has been said you don't see a ton of chicks living in penthouses and driving around in Mercedes so you know they are not collecting that from every Dick on a regular basis. So yes it is meaningful to know what local people in normal normal jobs actually earn if you are at all concerned about the local value that you are getting for your money.I'll simplify it even more. The price is the price.

You don't need to know average income cost of living or average shoe size. All you need to know is how much you are going to pay for what you want. If you want to go to Loutron, it doesn't matter that El Centro girls get 30-40 k. It doesn't matter that you might get better service from an El Centro girl. All that matters is the Loutron price. You can talk about average income and the price in El Centro, but if you aren't paying the Loutron price, you're not fucking the Loutron girl.

There is no "better" or "best" when it comes to girls. The IG model who gets prepaid $1,000 isn't better than any girl in Veracruz alley. How good she is can only be determined by how you feel after you've finished with her. When it's all done if you're happy you paid the price, then it was good.

Because there are certain to be arguments about that last bit, I'll clarify. One might be prettier, have a better body, be cleaner and have a pussy that should be hanging in the Louvre. However, when it's done if you feel like you wasted your money, you're no better off than if you wasted 30 k on a toothless glue sniffer.

Nounce
10-16-22, 13:22
...if it's the same girl...What if the girl also tells the monger that she charges 30 K in El Centro? A restaurant is more expensive can be explained by higher cost but the restaurant is not going to charge several times more for the same thing in El Centro at a similar restaurant.


...You're going to a much nicer room, probably your own and you're getting an hour. Not 30 minutes...That will only make sense to me if the girl is paying for the room. There is no cost to the girl to be in a nicer room.

It also does not explain why some cost US $ 400.

Another way to look at it is using opportunity cost. The majority of younger FB or Centro girls that I know don't have a j2ob or don't want to work for very little. Their cost is very low because their opportunity is ZERO. A girl can charge 150 mil but has only a few customer a month. These girls' cost of time is still basically 0 so they should charge even less if that is how they can make more money until they are established like the Jenni that was reviewed recently who had back to back customers on ISG. A girl who makes more than average salary can choose to charge a lot more than her existing job.

MiamiBoy1
10-16-22, 15:36
Instead of 30 minutes in a room of questionable cleanliness, we take 2 or 3 hours in a nice, clean room, possibly with a balcony or jacuzzi. Instead of a girl who might have already been with 5 customers, we get one who came fresh from her home, clean, well dressed (YMMV) and smelling sweet. We might take them to dinner, a movie or out drinking and dancing. It's a different experience and comes at a different price.

That experience isn't available for the typical Colombian who sees a hooker every other payday. It's hard to have a girl come over to the house where your wife and kids live (or where your mother lives). Certainly having a girl there for 2-3 hours of loud, sweaty sex is going to be a problem with your wife screaming and your mother beating you with her chancla.

The only question is whether or not guys should have the option of seeking a different mongering experience, or should be limited to only street girls and casas?This is what I was saying in the Bogota thread about high and low mileage girls. Not only you can take a girl for 2 or 3 hours, but overnight or even for a few days, if you want. Have multiple or unlimited pops, oftentimes BBFS, without any rush or knock on the door. I'm not talking about street girls or casa girls from the poorest barrios. I'm talking about girls who do not sell pussy for living, who have normal jobs, or study, and go out once in a while to have a good time or supplement their income, pay for college, etc. These girls are more intelligent than your average SW girl, some of them speak English and travel in and out of Colombia, some of them are great conversationalists and a fun company outside of bedroom. Guys like DonCarlos, Sangnyc21, and a few more, myself included, focus on a different field, and we are minority here. We prefer a different experience that comes at a different price, as you said. But we always get trashed here by mongers who think pussy is pussy, and there is no difference between girls besides the price. It's like an owner of a 30 yo Toyota Corolla talking shit about new luxury cars, just because he thinks his Toyota is the best car in the world, because it is cheap, gets him from point A to point be, and on top of that, he lost his virginity on the back seat of the car back in high school. Nobody is limited to only street girls or casas, but it seems like the majority here got stuck in the street scene and are too lazy to get their asses out of the comfort zone and try something different. And once you try it, there is no way back.

Incrociatore
10-16-22, 15:58
-At Las Islas, Fase II, Spa Fantasias Energy, and Loutrons, I have had virtually no luck getting the few super hot chicas that have caught my eye to offer DFK / BBBJ even for a generous (up to 100 k) propina. One exception--a buxom, blond beauty at Fase II (claimed to be getting a Pharmacy degree) with whom I had a supper, on-site GFE session, but who wasn't available for outcall. That said, if one isn't holding out for the one or two super beauties on the premises, one can find some more amenable to providing the GFE-style extras.

Happy hunting and to each his own.That is what I didn't like about Medellin. DFK is essential for me, but it wasn't always on the menu.

MoonShot
10-16-22, 17:16
Wow, there is definitely a lot of debate and arguments about how to monger in Medellin. I am not going to join the debates but just try to return the discussion to posting information about trips to Medellin.

I am a newbie to Medellin and recently enjoyed my first trip to Medellin for a week. I am an older monger in my late 50's and do not speak much Spanish, just bare bones Spanish. I did not know much about Medellin prior to going other than reading a few things on this website and trip reports on another website and watching online videos.

Everything was fine. I did not get robbed or drugged. I saw a number of girls on FB and everyone provided a good GFE session. They were young and attractive and I was happy with their performance. That was my only source of girls in Medellin and it worked out just fine.

I went to Medellin. I had a good time. I had a budget and stayed within my budget and the money I spent was reasonable to me. That is all that matters to me. Now whether other guys would be upset with my spending habits is not important at all to me.

I will return to Medellin soon. I have a few old favorites now and hope to add to my list of old favorites on my next trip.

Mr Enternational
10-16-22, 17:32
This is what I was saying in the Bogota thread about high and low mileage girls. Not only you can take a girl for 2 or 3 hours, but overnight or even for a few days, if you want. Have multiple or unlimited pops, oftentimes BBFS, without any rush or knock on the door. I'm not talking about street girls or casa girls from the poorest barrios. I'm talking about girls who do not sell pussy for living, who have normal jobs, or study, and go out once in a while to have a good time or supplement their income, pay for college, etc. These girls are more intelligent than your average SW girl, some of them speak English and travel in and out of Colombia, some of them are great conversationalists and a fun company outside of bedroom. Guys like DonCarlos, Sangnyc21, and a few more, myself included, focus on a different field, and we are minority here. We prefer a different experience that comes at a different price, as you said.That all goes back to there not being a wrong way. Different people have different things they are going for. I do not care about the taking someone I am paying to dinner because there are chicks I do not pay that I am going to be going to dinner with and doing normal shit with. Some guys just want a few minutes to stick their dick into some strange for which casas and centros suffice. Some guys like you said want a chick to drink and party with for which fb suffices. Then other guys want a chick to wine and dine and romance and look into their eyes over candlelight for which SA or IG works.

There is no way to tell if someone is high or low mileage. Just because she spent all night with you and has a regular job does not mean she is not a hooker. She could do the same with 29 other people in the same month and who is to say she is not running out fucking guys for money on her lunch break.

But I can see how the mind can conceive that since her base is not an actual place full of hookers then she is different or low mileage or does not often do what she did with me. These limos driving around town that you have to make a special reservation for have just as much mileage as the taxis that you can flag down from any corner. But seeing the sleek black paint and tinted windows in addition to having paid the "uber black price" make us think the ride we are taking is special or different.

YngMong
10-16-22, 18:03
Hello All,

I have a trip Feb / March to the Philippines but since I have been there before I'm seriously considering changing it Colombia.

I understand that its night and day difference between Asia and especially a first timer needs to be extra careful and use common sense. I have traveled around Guatemala and Honduras 15 years ago but never for mongering.

I'm looking at 2-3 weeks. My plan is to spend 7 to 10 days doing a motorcycle trip out of Medellin and the rest spending in the city perhaps venturing to another city maybe Bogota if I spend 3 weeks in country.

Spending time looking through the forums I have a couple of questions that would be helpful in making my decision.

1) Looking at finding a hotel / air bnb in Laureles as it seems like a good neighbourhood. I don't want anything to gringo touristy but same time nothing super sketchy. Any recommendations for GF place with good security, ID check and room safe? Is it worth while for a first timer to stay at the Mansion. My understanding is the value of the girls may not be as good as through other avenues but it is safe.

2) How does it work with finding girls off FB?

3) I defiantly want try and hit up some of the strip clubs and casa's any recommendations as I'm sure there are dozens if not hundreds in Medellin.

4) mileroticos and escort agencies seem like the safest but maybe not best value way to go. Any experiences people can share or alternative suggestions?

Many thanks,

YM.

MiamiBoy1
10-16-22, 18:43
There is no way to tell if someone is high or low mileage. Just because she spent all night with you and has a regular job does not mean she is not a hooker. She could do the same with 29 other people in the same month and who is to say she is not running out fucking guys for money on her lunch break.

But I can see how the mind can conceive that since her base is not an actual place full of hookers then she is different or low mileage or does not often do what she did with me. These limos driving around town that you have to make a special reservation for have just as much mileage as the taxis that you can flag down from any corner. But seeing the sleek black paint and tinted windows in addition to having paid the "uber black price" make us think the ride we are taking is special or different.I get your point. But I can hardly imagine a bank employee, even if she has an entry level job, a teller, for example, fucking guys on her lunch break. Hypothetically, she can, but in reality, most likely she won't. The higher her position in a company, the less likely she will fuck guys for money on a regular basis. Of course, you should never assume that you are the only guy she is meeting. But a normal chick with a 9-5 job simply won't have time (add time to get to work and get back home, time to get ready for a date, etc.) to fuck 29 other dudes in the same month. And no need to do that if her salary covers her basic necessities.

This is why it is very important to ask her questions about her job and school, both direct and indirect, ask for pictures from work, follow them on social media, etc. So that you have a good idea of what she does for living. We all know some girls are great at lying, but if she sends me a photo of her wearing a flight attendant uniform, while on the aircraft, I tend to believe that she is indeed a flight attendant. Doesn't mean she can't or doesn't fuck other dudes, but most likely not on a regular basis, and therefore I would consider her a low mileage girl, a non pro or a semi-pro, if you will, but definitely not a hooker / working girl who lives off of it.

JustTK
10-16-22, 18:44
I'm talking about girls who do not sell pussy for living, who have normal jobs...You are talking about girls who do not ONLY sell pussy for living.


But we always get trashed here by mongers who think pussy is pussy.Bcos you have up to this point always told us they are better / higher quality, without any proof.

JustTK
10-16-22, 18:47
I would consider her a low mileage girl, a non pro or a semi-pro, if you will, but definitely not a hooker / working girl .I want to ask you sincerely, what is the attraction of a "low mileage girl"? Why does it matter to you?

Mr Enternational
10-16-22, 19:29
I want to ask you sincerely, what is the attraction of a "low mileage girl"? Why does it matter to you?Guys want to hire an electrician or mechanic with tons of experience, but want to hire a hooker with the least experience possible.

MiamiBoy1
10-16-22, 19:30
You are talking about girls who do not ONLY sell pussy for living.

Bcos you have up to this point always told us they are better / higher quality, without any proof.Do you need a proof that flying business class is more comfortable than flying economy?

Here is a great analogy for you. Some people don't fly business class, because:

1. they can't afford it, plain and simple.

2. they can afford it, tried it, but decided that it is not worth it to pay extra thousands $ for that extra level of comfort, in other words they see no value in it and prefer to spend the saved money elsewhere.

3. they can afford it, but never tried, maybe because they think business or economy are the same, or maybe because they just care about getting from point A to point be regardless of a level of comfort.

The majority of mongers promoting the street scene fall into the 3rd category. Never tried a different way of mongering, never stepped out of a comfort zone to try something new, do what they are used to, or sometimes, simply have no info or clue about other ways they can monger. You can't promote the only way of mongering you have tried, and talk shit about other ways or venues that you haven't tried, it just shows your incompetence and narrow mindedness.

MiamiBoy1
10-16-22, 19:52
I want to ask you sincerely, what is the attraction of a "low mileage girl"? Why does it matter to you?A low mileage girl generally provides better service, because she doesn't treat this as her job. She is fresh, clean, more enthusiastic. Not burned out yet. She wants to have a great time in and out of bedroom. She can be very selective and only fuck dudes that she likes vs casa girls who have to fuck whoever walks in and picks them. All of this results in a better chemistry and connection, and better sex.

Also, how would you feel about DFK with a girl who sucked someone's dick 10 minutes ago, and you know it for sure, because some dude grabbed her in front of you? You probably don't care, but I do.

JustTK
10-16-22, 20:41
Do you need a proof that flying business class is more comfortable than flying economy?

Here is a great analogy for you.

3. they can afford it, but never tried, maybe because they think business or economy are the same, or maybe because they just care about getting from point A to point be regardless of a level of comfort.

The majority of mongers promoting the street scene fall into the 3rd category.How do you know they fall in category 3? That's a very big assumption.

And I don't think your analogy is valid. Here's why. When you pay for business class, you are buying a defined service. You get a bigger chair, you get a free glass of bubbly, you get a free toothbrush that snaps on first use, and you contribute more to global warming. So you can decide if you want to pay for that or not.

But when you pay more for a girl. What exactly are you paying for? I note, you are looking for intelligence, fun, someone that has a second job as well as hooking, better looking, whatever. These are all things that are either subjective or totally unfounded. I have been with lots of students in Centro, taken plenty of girls out of the casas and clubs. Am writing this from Guatape, where I am staying w 2 girls from Sexi Amigas. They are great fun, and great at sex. One time at New Life I met one girl that told me she is a dentist and saving quick money to buy a house. That was a surprise, I can tell you. So in summary, I don't accept any of the assumptions you make when you pay more money for a girl. That's why the analogy breaks down.

Here is an analogy for you. Many people believe in a religion. If it makes them happy. Good them. But it does not make it correct.

JustTK
10-16-22, 21:00
A low mileage girl generally provides better service, because she doesn't treat this as her job. She is fresh, clean, more enthusiastic. Not burned out yet. She wants to have a great time in and out of bedroom. She can be very selective and only fuck dudes that she likes vs casa girls who have to fuck whoever walks in and picks them. All of this results in a better chemistry and connection, and better sex.

Also, how would you feel about DFK with a girl who sucked someone's dick 10 minutes ago, and you know it for sure, because some dude grabbed her in front of you? You probably don't care, but I do.Why does "not treat it as a job" equal "better service"? And how do you know a low mileage girl (LMG) does not treat it as a job? Surely the act of doing it, indicates its a job to her, no?

How do you know a LMG is is "fresh, clean, more enthusiastic"? Maybe she has a BF who has just fucked her up the AR $e and cum in her mouth?

And that a HMG is not "fresh, clean, more enthusiastic"?

"She wants to have a great time in and out of bedroom. " - don't we all?

"She can be very selective and only fuck dudes that she likes" - why is this a benefit?

"All of this results in a better chemistry and connection" - only if you buy in to the claims you have made. I think they are all fallacies.

"and better sex" - how can that be? I guess that would only be if the issues you raise mean that you cannot enjoy sex with someone that does not meet your criteria.

"DFK with a girl who sucked someone's dick 10 minutes ago" - your right. It wouldn't matter to me. As long as she brushes her teeth beforehand or uses mouthwash. Your girl, might have had her BFs dick in her mouth 10 minutes before, or last night. She has probably washed, the same as a casa girl. A girl that brushed her teeth 12 hours ago v a girrl that brushed her teeth 10 minutes ago. Which one is cleaner?

TBH: when I read your methodology of evaluating girls, I get the impression you are searching for a wife or long term partner. Thats fine if you are. It just seems strange to me that you are searching for one thru expensive hookers.

Surfer500
10-16-22, 21:04
Do you need a proof that flying business class is more comfortable than flying economy?

Here is a great analogy for you. Some people don't fly business class, because:

1. they can't afford it, plain and simple.

2. they can afford it, tried it, but decided that it is not worth it to pay extra thousands $ for that extra level of comfort, in other words they see no value in it and prefer to spend the saved money elsewhere.

3. they can afford it, but never tried, maybe because they think business or economy are the same, or maybe because they just care about getting from point A to point be regardless of a level of comfort.

The majority of mongers promoting the street scene fall into the 3rd category. Never tried a different way of mongering, never stepped out of a comfort zone to try something new, do what they are used to, or sometimes, simply have no info or clue about other ways they can monger. You can't promote the only way of mongering you have tried, and talk shit about other ways or venues that you haven't tried, it just shows your incompetence and narrow mindedness.How did you determine that the majority of mongers into the street scene fall into your third category.

Your saying they can afford to fly business, yet may think business and economy are the same. I don't even know how you can say that as every monger in Colombia has to fly here, and knows there can be a big difference between economy and business.

And are you also saying that the mongers into the street scene may have never tried a different way of mongering, and might not have a clue as to other ways to monger. I find that hard to believe, as all of the guys I know who frequent the street scene have varied mongering experience and prefer it based on their experience mongering in other ways.

In your analogy, I would put the majority of mongers into the street scene in your category 1 or 2, with category 3 not making much sense to me.

I think of all the mongering venues available in Medellin, the street scene in my opinion is the hardest one of them all to navigate. And just because a monger is into the street scene doesn't mean they are closed minded, "Cheap Charlies", but a lot of them are, or inept at handling different venues.

Anyways, I always fly business class in and out of Colombia, and sometimes I've paid for tickets that would of gotten me easily over a hundred street fucks, so I guess I fall into my own special category. LOL.

Bill
10-16-22, 21:08
Thanks for the great summary but can someone please clarify if the 30-40 k in El Centro is for an hour? Or is it just for 30 minutes?

TIA.Before the recent rush of clueless gringo mongers and Vennie arrivals, the price for the average non addict local Medellin street girls was 20 k for an approx. 30 minute service plus the room.

Now since the arrival of hordes of sharky Venezuelen refugees, the Tijuana guys and other street savvy USA Mongers are happy with their familiar 20 minute rush sessions with rules for upselling top off, CBJ, prepay and other nonsense that was a given with local MDE clients.

After a sheddy session these aforementioned providers are asking for a propina, tip, or cab fare (even though they will walk or catch a bus) and are getting it LOL!

DonCarlos1234
10-16-22, 21:24
TBH: when I read your methodology of evaluating girls, I get the impression you are searching for a wife or long term partner. Thats fine if you are. It just seems strange to me that you are searching for one thru expensive hookers.So is long term is a week or more? Maybe a "friend with benefits" who you visit on future trips? So you know what to expect. LOL looking into their eyes yes, no bag over her head.

And where do the Sexi Amigas work? I like the sound of it and strange is ok once in a while.

The reality is people are people. Fat, ugly, gorgeous. Some will do anything for 50 cop others want more. A lot more. I am happy with fast food when I am hungry. But not if it's $100 a plate. Then I will at least want candlelight and a table with my deserts.

DonCarlos1234
10-16-22, 21:39
Hello All,



I'm looking at 2-3 weeks. My plan is to spend 7 to 10 days doing a motorcycle trip out of Medellin and the rest spending in the city perhaps venturing to another city maybe Bogota if I spend 3 weeks in country.

YM.I am thinking of this also. Maybe just drive to Bogota stopping along the way and maybe bring a girl part of the way. I arrive in Medellin Thanksgiving day for 3 weeks.

Nounce
10-16-22, 21:44
...no bag over her head..I think it is all in the head of whoever is doing that.

Mr Enternational
10-16-22, 21:54
"She can be very selective and only fuck dudes that she likes" - why is this a benefit?

"All of this results in a better chemistry and connection" - only if you buy in to the claims you have made. I think they are all fallacies.

"and better sex" - how can that be?I have been with chicks that are not hookers and we were interested in each other and we tried to get something going, yet there was no chemistry at all. I have been with chicks that are not hookers and we had chemisty and a connection but the sex was not to my liking. In my experience chemistry or good sex has nothing to do with whether a person has a normal job, has a limited number of sex partners, is selective, or is getting paid a certain amout by a guy. These things have absolutely.

No correlation. They stand independently, but sometimes when the stars align one may be led to believe that one has something to do with the other.

JustTK
10-16-22, 22:18
And where do the Sexi Amigas work?
Sexi Amigas.

JustTK
10-16-22, 22:23
So is long term is a week or more? Maybe a "friend with benefits" who you visit on future trips?
A friend that you pay for the benefits. Is not any type of friend I know of. That's called "a relationship w a prostitute". . But in mBs case, a prostitute that also has to work in an office when she's not banging deluded tourists.

JjBee62
10-16-22, 22:46
Do you need a proof that flying business class is more comfortable than flying economy?

Here is a great analogy for you. Some people don't fly business class, because:

1. they can't afford it, plain and simple.

2. they can afford it, tried it, but decided that it is not worth it to pay extra thousands $ for that extra level of comfort, in other words they see no value in it and prefer to spend the saved money elsewhere.

3. they can afford it, but never tried, maybe because they think business or economy are the same, or maybe because they just care about getting from point A to point be regardless of a level of comfort.

The majority of mongers promoting the street scene fall into the 3rd category. Never tried a different way of mongering, never stepped out of a comfort zone to try something new, do what they are used to, or sometimes, simply have no info or clue about other ways they can monger. You can't promote the only way of mongering you have tried, and talk shit about other ways or venues that you haven't tried, it just shows your incompetence and narrow mindedness.Your 3 categories are all basically correct. Your conclusions aren't.

1. Nearly every monger I've met who prefers El Centro has tried other options. They decided they prefer street girls. That puts them in category 2.

2. Most of the mongers who prefer El Centro don't "promote" El Centro. They report on what they do and what they enjoy. With very few exceptions they don't insult the people who don't care for El Centro.

3. The category 1, can't afford it, rarely applies for frequent leisure travelers. There are plenty of guys here, with plenty of money who only fly the discount airlines and choose only flights with lower fares. They choose where and how to spend their money to get the most out of it. Some only do SA, some only do street girls.

4. Many El Centro mongers want 3 or 4 different girls every day. They prefer that over having the same girl 3 or 4 times a day. Trying to set up 40 non-pros for a 2 week trip is going to be a complete failure. Grabbing 2 or 3 downtown girls in the morning and afternoon then setting up a Facebook girl at night is pretty easy.

5. Different things bother different people. I'd rather a girl sucked a dick before coming to see me than smoke a cigarette. Mouthwash takes care of the first, but a heavy smoker reeks for 2 weeks after they quit smoking.

6. Mileage doesn't matter. Attitude does. Give me a girl who does 40 guys a month, but is fun, energetic and trying to please over a girl who has only had 3 guys and is constantly complaining or telling me she won't do what I want.

JjBee62
10-16-22, 22:47
So is long term is a week or more? Maybe a "friend with benefits" who you visit on future trips? So you know what to expect. LOL looking into their eyes yes, no bag over her head.

And where do the Sexi Amigas work? I like the sound of it and strange is ok once in a while.

The reality is people are people. Fat, ugly, gorgeous. Some will do anything for 50 cop others want more. A lot more. I am happy with fast food when I am hungry. But not if it's $100 a plate. Then I will at least want candlelight and a table with my deserts.Sexi Amigas is a casa in El Centro.

JjBee62
10-16-22, 22:49
I am thinking of this also. Maybe just drive to Bogota stopping along the way and maybe bring a girl part of the way. I arrive in Medellin Thanksgiving day for 3 weeks.Medellin Sport Rentals is the place to go to rent a motorcycle.

Nounce
10-16-22, 22:55
Do you need a proof that flying business class is more comfortable than flying economy?....Your approach takes more time, and more work so your method does not offer similar benefit of flying business class. The same thing can be said about Scandallo and you have the opposite suggestion that you mention value.

Some centro mongers are doing the same courtship you are doing. I think JW and BB both have reported their approach so there is no disagreement. They just do it cheaper and faster.

Nounce
10-16-22, 22:58
Hello All,...You can start with San Peter Apartments. Read Reports of Distinction to find information about FB girls.

Knowledge
10-17-22, 00:32
For the first time in a long time I ventured into the infamous Parque Lleras and then made my way up la 10 into Provenza to meet some visitors from the Great White North. It was fun and we enjoyed our drinks at Burdo until we got sick of the noise and my friends had to head off to the airport. About an hour before I met them, while I was killing time I was aggressively propositioned three times, pretty much every corner between Lleras and Provenza. I found one of them very attractive. The two pictured here are part of a posse that I noticed hangs out in front of and around the corner from the Hotel Loup on la 10. I don't remember la 10 being a full on stroll during daylight hours. I did not get into pricing because I wouldn't have time. In restrospect I wish I had because as I write this I realize I am curious about it.

Surfer500
10-17-22, 14:50
For the first time in a long time I ventured into the infamous Parque Lleras and then made my way up la 10 into Provenza to meet some visitors from the Great White North. It was fun and we enjoyed our drinks at Burdo until we got sick of the noise and my friends had to head off to the airport. About an hour before I met them, while I was killing time I was aggressively propositioned three times, pretty much every corner between Lleras and Provenza. I found one of them very attractive. The two pictured here are part of a posse that I noticed hangs out in front of and around the corner from the Hotel Loup on la 10. I don't remember la 10 being a full on stroll during daylight hours. I did not get into pricing because I wouldn't have time. In restrospect I wish I had because as I write this I realize I am curious about it.According to an article in the Vivir En Poblado publication, supposedly the Park is supposed to open by November 30, and according to the article, "four state of the art cameras will be installed that, according to Mayor Daniel Quintero, will perform facial recognition and will serve to measure noise levels."

So if you think about this, once the Park is complete, which I will be surprised if it is this year, but if, and when it's complete, I'm wondering how the facial recognition capabilities might be utilized besides identifying criminals in their databases who show up in the park and am wondering if foreign visitors will be able to be identified based on their Passport photo with their system.

Just Incognito
10-18-22, 11:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQWdbeFW40

Found the girls who drugged and robbed with Scopolamine and this is what happened- Part 1.

This is pretty cool and interesting.

Shady criminal chica caught after drugging the wrong people.

Oterri
10-18-22, 13:01
Before the recent rush of clueless gringo mongers and Vennie arrivals, the price for the average non addict local Medellin street girls was 20 k for an approx. 30 minute service plus the room.

Now since the arrival of hordes of sharky Venezuelen refugees, the Tijuana guys and other street savvy USA Mongers are happy with their familiar 20 minute rush sessions with rules for upselling top off, CBJ, prepay and other nonsense that was a given with local MDE clients.

After a sheddy session these aforementioned providers are asking for a propina, tip, or cab fare (even though they will walk or catch a bus) and are getting it LOL!Sadly this stupid obsession to pay more than the market rate is something that has accelerated in past 20 years, partly due to information being available on open forums like this one. It is something that has affected pretty much all mongering destinations. I have a feeling that MDE rates will triple in next 3-5 years.

Surfer500
10-18-22, 14:25
Before the recent rush of clueless gringo mongers and Vennie arrivals, the price for the average non addict local Medellin street girls was 20 k for an approx. 30 minute service plus the room.

Now since the arrival of hordes of sharky Venezuelen refugees, the Tijuana guys and other street savvy USA Mongers are happy with their familiar 20 minute rush sessions with rules for upselling top off, CBJ, prepay and other nonsense that was a given with local MDE clients.

After a sheddy session these aforementioned providers are asking for a propina, tip, or cab fare (even though they will walk or catch a bus) and are getting it LOL!Unfortunately your observations with a few minor exceptions has become how things may be for a lot of the foreign mongers in Medellin, albeit I just can see them making up no more than 5% of all the clients the street girls go with.

So with this being said, there are still a lot of using your words, non "sharky" street girls out whose primary client base is locals. Yet the "sharky" ones, well they are the better business women working the streets.

Knowledge
10-18-22, 15:03
The same databases that power the American Global Entry system, Interpol's CCTV feeds, and yes Colombia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs migration unit will presumably be available to and fed by what goes up in Parque Lleras. I don't see it as a big deal for anyone who isn't a fugitive from justice, in flagrant violation of Colombia immigration policy, or engaged in illegal activities in the park. Quintero is a relentless publicity hound. Today he is in the media claiming credit on behalf of Gustavo Petro for the UK dropping visa requirements for Colombian tourists. Of course this is nothing Petro could have accomplished since August. It was Duque who pushed it through. So, you can now all take your favorite girls to London for up to 6 months at a time. Bon voyage!


According to an article in the Vivir En Poblado publication, supposedly the Park is supposed to open by November 30, and according to the article, "four state of the art cameras will be installed that, according to Mayor Daniel Quintero, will perform facial recognition and will serve to measure noise levels."

So if you think about this, once the Park is complete, which I will be surprised if it is this year, but if, and when it's complete, I'm wondering how the facial recognition capabilities might be utilized besides identifying criminals in their databases who show up in the park and am wondering if foreign visitors will be able to be identified based on their Passport photo with their system.

JustTK
10-18-22, 16:38
These things have absolutely.

No correlation..Hallelujah.

MiamiBoy1
10-18-22, 17:05
Hallelujah.My experience, and experience of my monger friends, is completely opposite from his. There are very few exceptions that I can think of, when sex with a hooker with whom I had no chemistry / connection, was actually good. Saying that there is no correlation between sex and chemistry sounds like a bullshit to me.

JjBee62
10-18-22, 17:42
Sadly this stupid obsession to pay more than the market rate is something that has accelerated in past 20 years, partly due to information being available on open forums like this one. It is something that has affected pretty much all mongering destinations. I have a feeling that MDE rates will triple in next 3-5 years.Strangely enough I've heard the exact same prediction stated about 20 times over the past 8 years. There's always someone out there doing something that is going to cause the prices to rapidly change, or that will destroy the service.

However, you should consider a few points.

1. The price was brought down from 25-30 k by the first few waves of Venezuelan girls. Supply increases, without an increase in demand, prices go down. This started 5 years ago. Surfer500 and others reported on the competition and price decrease.

2. Over the same period inflation in Colombia has increased prices by 27%. That's not counting the price gouging which caused the price of many staples to increase dramatically during the pandemic. If everything costs more but pay doesn't rise, you've got problems. For an example look at the US labor market. Jobs paying $8-$10 per hour 2-3 years ago are paying $12-$16 today, or more and everyone is still begging for employees.

3. In the last 2 years demand has increased due to Colombia being one of the few mongering destinations without excessive travel restrictions. At the same time the influx of Venezuelans eased off. Demand increase without a supply increase, prices rise.

4. The rates in El Centro are so low that any increase looks like a big increase. Unless they want to carry around 2 kilos of coins, the minimum price increase is going to be 5 k. At today's rate that's a whopping $1. 05.

5. From the monger standpoint, 20 k in 2017 cost 30 cents more (in dollars) than 30 k today. The dramatic price increase is only an increase for the natives.

6. 5 years ago many mongers complained that they were getting the knock on the door after 20 minutes. This apparently hasn't changed. The guys who routinely visit El Centro have mentioned their strategies to get 30 minutes or more.

7. For as long as I've been here guys have been complaining about not getting BBBJ, or having to pay extra. When demand for BBBJ is high, the girls would be foolish not to charge extra. Personally I've never paid for BBBJ. When a girl asks whether I want it without or with a condom, I tell her it doesn't matter. If I don't care, she can't add an extra fee. More often than not, I get the BBBJ. That's basic negotiation. If you demand you have to have something, the value of that thing increases.

Price increases are inevitable. What I'll never understand is why some people can't grasp that. Plumbers charge more now than 5 years ago. Taxi drivers charge more. Hotels charge more. Mechanics charge more. Gas prices are up, food prices are up. The price of everything is up. Why is it shocking, or cause for doomsday predictions when the price of pussy goes up too?

Tom Dick 69
10-18-22, 18:41
I am an Asian (brown skin), don't know Spanish.

I travelled from USA to Colombia for a longer trip this time, hoping to travel 6 months in Colombia. My first / previous trip was a 3 day trip to Bogota in 2019.

Immigration: There were like 40 people in the foreigners' immigration queue and I was like last. No immigration form was necessary, at least in MDE airport. On my turn, I gave the passport to the officer. I also had the migration Colombia form and COVID vaccination proof, but the officer didn't ask for it. He saw my passport, the visa inside. He just asked 1 or 2 questions in Spanish. I caught the word 'vacation / tourism', I replied 'yes, tourisomo'. Visa stamped. I asked for how long. He said it says 3 months in the system.

Based on my experiences with immigration at BOG in 2019, and MDE now, with the same passport and same visa, I prefer MDE for my future entry.

ATM at airport: There were 1 or 2 ATMs at the lower level arrival, but there were 4 ATMs in upper level departures. As expected, the first ATM immediately after you clear customs has the longest queue. ATMs allow 300 k or 900 k withdrawal. At least 1 ATM had no fee. And you can withdraw multiple times.

Airport to Medellin: I read you could take a bus for 10-15 k that will drop you in San Diego mall, or take a taxi for 80 k pesos.

Mongering places: I used WorldTraveller69's Medellin list and map. This is good enough as it has wealth of information.

Stay: It seems the safer place to stay is Poblado or Laurels area.

But centro has more places of interest as per his map. In centro (downtown), WorldTraveller69 has mentioned to be safe near hospital and padro metro area, even during daytime. The area around parque barrio and San Antinio metro seems bit shady at night. But I heard the area to the east of Avenida Oriental is safe. I stayed in Centro near Avenida Oriental.

Travelling within Medellin: To travel in Medellin public transport system, you can buy Civica card at San Antiono (+few other) metro station. Take the escalator on the eastern side, and the civica card office is immediately on the right. It gives discounted ride on metro and metro bus - 2550 pesos, only way to ride tram, free / discounted transfers. Else, individual tickets can be bought for 2950 pesos.

Once you enter with the ticket, you can travel anywhere without paying additional, until you get out. Just for the price of one ticket, I travelled from San Antonio station to Santa Domingo to El Progreso to Niquia to San Javier to La Aurora to La Esterilla to Poblado. So, like 2-3 hour city tour for the price of 1 ticket.

Moovit app for bus: There are many private buses zig zagging the city. Move it app was very good in using these buses. All has fixed fare of 2550 or 2650 pesos. Driver gives back change. Most people pay exact fare, some pay 5 k. Rarely people pay 10 k or 20 k for a 2550 pesos ride, and still get the change.

Felt safe on most places: I covered most of the places by walk, metro, and private bus with the help of moovit app. I felt safe in all places. Some places near padro and hospital metro area seems bit shady even during day time, but still safe. Just keep walking without standing in a place, don't flash money or phone. Centro area (near parque barrio and San Antonio metro) are shady in the night. Some areas in centro seems safe at 8 or 9 pm since people are still travelling. Poblado, Laurels, Avenida Oriental and area to it's east felt safe at 8 pm.

Laundry:

La laundry. Cl52#39-12.22 k for 1 load full service (washing + drying + folding).

Lavamor Lavanderia. Cl53#40-15 8:30 am to 6 pm. 20 k for 1 load, they do washing & drying, pickup in 90 minutes. He was kind enough to allow me to fold clothes.

Laundry cafe in Laurels. Tr39 B#70-57.366. 90.12 or cell: 305 769.83. 91 laundry café. Co 24 k for 1 load self-washer+dryer. 30 k for full service (they do washing + drying + folding), if you give at 11 am or before, pickup at 6 pm. They also do pickup & delivery, I think Full service total cost is 40 k or 60 k.

- they also have another branch at Cl46#81-18.

Celver tu lavanderia. Cl56#43-09.13 k / kg full service (washing + drying + folding).

JustTK
10-18-22, 20:39
My experience, and experience of my monger friends, is completely opposite from his. There are very few exceptions that. Saying that there is no correlation between sex and chemistry sounds like a bullshit to me.Nether of us are saying yhat either. I agree chemistry is important.

But you can establish chemistry in 5 monutes. 5 weeks of stalking someone in Facebook. Is not necessary and adds no value unless its a pre-condition to having fun.

Andersson25
10-18-22, 20:42
Thanks Moonshot. Good advice for guys going for the first time. Searched for FB groups and found like expat groups and general info groups, also one Medellin dating group I think. Are those the kind of groups you used?

Edit: Found it under reports of distinction, thanks again for all support!!!


Wow, there is definitely a lot of debate and arguments about how to monger in Medellin. I am not going to join the debates but just try to return the discussion to posting information about trips to Medellin.

I am a newbie to Medellin and recently enjoyed my first trip to Medellin for a week. I am an older monger in my late 50's and do not speak much Spanish, just bare bones Spanish. I did not know much about Medellin prior to going other than reading a few things on this website and trip reports on another website and watching online videos.

Everything was fine. I did not get robbed or drugged. I saw a number of girls on FB and everyone provided a good GFE session. They were young and attractive and I was happy with their performance. That was my only source of girls in Medellin and it worked out just fine.

I went to Medellin. I had a good time. I had a budget and stayed within my budget and the money I spent was reasonable to me. That is all that matters to me. Now whether other guys would be upset with my spending habits is not important at all to me.

I will return to Medellin soon. I have a few old favorites now and hope to add to my list of old favorites on my next trip.

Mr Enternational
10-18-22, 20:46
My experience, and experience of my monger friends, is completely opposite from his. There are very few exceptions that I can think of, when sex with a hooker with whom I had no chemistry / connection, was actually good. Saying that there is no correlation between sex and chemistry sounds like a bullshit to me.Sex is an act. Like cooking food. You do not have to go in the back to buddy up with the chef in order for him to make you a great meal. Regardless he is going to follow the recipe that he knows.

Likewise no chick ever said we have chemistry so I am going to make my mouth or pussy wetter than I did when I was with the last guy that I did not have a connection with. Most people just have sex how they have sex. They can not make it really good for one person and really bad for the next person.

An exception is maybe they won't do something that you like or refuse to try something that you ask. But as far as your dick going into their mouth or pussy it is pretty standard and can not be altered depending on the connection they have with someone.

Still nobody ever says what bad sex is and what good sex is. What did this person do different that really blew your socks off and made you say wow that is good sex? Do you think they did it on purpose and said I am going to give him good sex, or was that just the way they have sex?

Recondite
10-18-22, 23:35
I agree about chemistry being crucial to the best time or at the very least you need a chica that tolerates you and is a good actress. But that may be personal taste as some guys may be happy to fuck a starfish. I don't think money has that direct a correlation to creating chemistry. There are centro guys that make good connections paying 40 k a pop. I don't doubt it because I've read the reports. I have had the worst times personally with some of the women I paid most for.

Where money may have more correlation is with the looks of your provider. But I honestly think venue is more important than looks for what they charge. Higher end venues have more stunners but they often also have average or even below average choices too. That's true of most strip clubs I've been in across the world, the casas I've been too and is certainly true online. We pay variations on the going rate of a venue for each chica rather than an independent, beauty-based price.

Of course money is even less clearly correlated to the nonpro game. Money can be a component of what makes you attractive but is rarely enough on its own and there are men, pimps in particular, who are pretty good at extracting money from and control over women due to their looks and charisma.


My experience, and experience of my monger friends, is completely opposite from his. There are very few exceptions that I can think of, when sex with a hooker with whom I had no chemistry / connection, was actually good. Saying that there is no correlation between sex and chemistry sounds like a bullshit to me.

JustTK
10-19-22, 00:26
My experience, and experience of my monger friends, is completely opposite from his. There are very few exceptions that. Saying that there is no correlation between sex and chemistry sounds like a bullshit to me.Neither of us are saying that either. I agree chemistry is important.

But you can establish chemistry in 5 minutes. 5 weeks of stalking someone in Facebook is not necessary and adds no value unless its a pre-condition to having fun.

Lefeu
10-19-22, 01:59
I agree about chemistry being crucial to the best time or at the very least you need a chica that tolerates you and is a good actress. But that may be personal taste as some guys may be happy to fuck a starfish...I am one monger who can tolerate a non GFE session, as long as the girl is above average in looks.

Errol Flynn
10-19-22, 05:41
I am an Asian (brown skin), don't know Spanish.

I travelled from USA to Colombia for a longer trip this time, hoping to travel 6 months in Colombia. My first / previous trip was a 3 day trip to Bogota in 2019.

Immigration: There were like 40 people in the foreigners' immigration queue and I was like last. No immigration form was necessary, at least in MDE airport. On my turn, I gave the passport to the officer. I also had the migration Colombia form and COVID vaccination proof, but the officer didn't ask for it. He saw my passport, the visa inside. He just asked 1 or 2 questions in Spanish. I caught the word 'vacation / tourism', I replied 'yes, tourisomo'. Visa stamped. I asked for how long. He said it says 3 months in the system.

Based on my experiences with immigration at BOG in 2019, and MDE now, with the same passport and same visa, I prefer MDE for my future entry.

.Thanks for the great, factual FR.

Marxh
10-19-22, 06:22
I was wondering if its worth it taking a centro girl to your hotel. Is the cost the same or does it depending on location? Should and how would you negotiate travel to and from the hotel?

TIA.

BbqMushrooms
10-19-22, 07:14
A note: This forum has devolved to Paleolithic times. Seriously 75% of the last 50 pages should all be in "Stupid Shit in Medellíand". This topic is "Medellin Reports". No wonder so many noobies are posting with their hands out, it is damn near impossible to find good information. Anyways.

The biggest piece of advice. Learn Spanish. Especially listening. It makes such a huge difference when you can have a conversation with someone. Fuck duo lingo, use Pimsluer, find tutors online, go to Spanish language exchange meetups in your city. Get your practice in. You'll regret it if you show up with nothing.

Security Stuff:

I have 3 wallets, 3 debit cards (with less than 500 on them and NOT set to auto refill) and 3 phones. I never take my main phone anywhere, it is always locked in my safe. This way, if I get mugged, I have 0 hesitation in giving my stuff away. My contacts sync to the cloud. It will suck to lose the SIM card and WhatsApp chats but that's life.

Financial stuff:

There's a banking service app Revolut. It has a max withdrawal of $1000 USD / mo, but the fee afterwards is super reasonable (. 5% I have tried all the major ATMs and found Davienda to give me the best rate (after declining the ATMs conversion of course), it's about 3-4 percent off the exchange and no fee.

Getting around:

I've been using indriver for everything. Usually only a few minutes, love the cash payment after, great way to get rid of coins as a tip. Drivers friendly.

Saturday. Went to Luna Lunera around 6/7 pm, very few people in there. 20 k entry. Minimum 3 beer bucket 75 k for a seat next to the poles (though not a whole lot of dancing going on). Lady drinks 25 k. If you come to Medellin to bang 9's /10's then don't bother, but I had a good time groping the ladies and handing them 2 k bills (when the mesero changes it for you, he'll keep a 2 k bill for himself. He tells you this). Took a lady up, she was so cute and tight tiny body. We talked about kissing and ball sucking but neither actually happened. She had lied to me making an excuse about cameras in the room and how she would get in trouble. I almost walked out but I was so horny and she was still quite sensual pushing her body against me and kissing my neck. That being said, I would not repeat because what bullshit. She still had the nerve to ask for a tip after. 210 k for 30 minutes (310 k for 60), but knock was definitely closer to 15-20 minutes. Long day of travel went to apartment to sleep.

Sunday. Spent the day getting situated, groceries, seeing the area around my apartment. Oh and a seeking date! We met during the day and I took her to the cat cafe. She was not into it LOL! We went to a love motel after (my apartment has a no prostitutes rule and while she was dressed very cute, it bordered the line, and I wanted to play it safe). I intentionally didn't ask for specific activities because she seemed quite timid and I wanted to take it slow because I'm hoping to see her again and develop something more naturally. Anyways, we'll see how that goes. 200 k.

Met up with a board member and we had a nice chat and beers at the bar under San peters apartments. The owner came by and gave everyone a drink ticket for the next visit and a free shot of rum! We decided to head out to La Isla but got there too early (8) and the place was empty. Met up with a random other American who found the same issue and the 3 of us headed to Poblado to burn a bit of time before heading back. This was fun and I realized that more than anything else, it would be great to have a buddy or two on my trips.

After heading back to La Isla, we paid a cover fee of 50 k and then had to buy a bottle for 280 k (this included a service fee) in order to have any kind of proper seating. Mesero seated us then glared at us until we picked something haha. I really liked this place, the girls were very cute and there was lots of quick lap dances and you could just pull anyone walking by or flag anyone over to sit down and chat. Almost all American / foreign clientele. Crispest 2 k bills I've ever seen and no forced propina (though I gave one anyways). The music wasn't too loud, the bathroom was nice. I also had some very sweet conversations and got a few phone numbers. Take out for later because the price seemed stupid - 210 k for 3 private dances, 310 k for 30 minutes in a habitation, I would rather get to know them better, see if they laugh at my terrible jokes and get a better session that's more like a date.

None of us took anyone back and we went to luna lunera. The fellas weren't super impressed but I was having a great time. The ladies recognized me from the night before lmao. I was also a dirty mother fucker that day and was wearing the same outfit from the night before. In my defense, it had only been a couple hours of wear the day before and smelled fine! This time the lady who impressed me with her dancing promised me no upsell or bullshit, but then still asked for a propina for ball sucking which I gave in to, she was doing a good job. She was on her phone a few times which bugged me but apparently she owns a business and it had gotten robbed. I heard her mother weeping retelling the story to her when our session was over. I don't know why we continued, I suppose she would've gotten in trouble for stopping the session for any reason. Really sucky situation.

I chided everyone on my way up for the earlier knock the last time. This time it was only 4 minutes early, but still, early is early. I scolded the maid. Buddies still had fun getting lap dances it turns out. We were done and got some food in poblado and went our separate ways.

More tales to come! I rented a second place for an upcoming weekend where I can properly host some of Medellin's finest ladies. I'll let why'all know how that goes. I recognize I've been acting like a silly gringo, but that ends now, no more excuses.

Hit me up if you're here! Looking to do normal stuff as well.

Bdararre
10-19-22, 08:07
A note: This forum has devolved to Paleolithic times. Seriously 75% of the last 50 pages should all be in "Stupid Shit in Medelland". This topic is "Medellin Reports". No wonder so many noobies are posting with their hands out, it is damn near impossible to find good information. Anyways.

The biggest piece of advice. Learn Spanish. Especially listening. It makes such a huge difference when you can have a conversation with someone. Fuck duo lingo, use Pimsluer, find tutors online, go to Spanish language exchange meetups in your city. Get your practice in. You'll regret it if you show up with nothing. My man! Appreciate the report. There is so much bickering between adults but between you, JjBee62, and WorldTravel69 map, I'll be good.

I'll be in town Tuesday 10/25 for about a week. Staying in the heart of the beast at Hotel Nutibara. I know how to move in not so safe areas so I'll be good. I stayed in the slums in Bogota and was fine.

My Spanish is horrible but it'll have to do as I do not have enough time to learn anything of significance by next week.

JjBee62
10-19-22, 09:23
The same databases that power the American Global Entry system, Interpol's CCTV feeds, and yes Colombia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs migration unit will presumably be available to and fed by what goes up in Parque Lleras. I don't see it as a big deal for anyone who isn't a fugitive from justice, in flagrant violation of Colombia immigration policy, or engaged in illegal activities in the park. Quintero is a relentless publicity hound. Today he is in the media claiming credit on behalf of Gustavo Petro for the UK dropping visa requirements for Colombian tourists. Of course this is nothing Petro could have accomplished since August. It was Duque who pushed it through. So, you can now all take your favorite girls to London for up to 6 months at a time. Bon voyage!So, trade Colombian food for British cuisine?

Knowledge
10-19-22, 17:01
I will take a Sunday roast or Ploughman's Lunch any day over arepas or bandeja paisa any day of the week.


So, trade Colombian food for British cuisine?

MoonShot
10-19-22, 17:02
Thanks Moonshot. Good advice for guys going for the first time. Searched for FB groups and found like expat groups and general info groups, also one Medellin dating group I think. Are those the kind of groups you used?

Edit: Found it under reports of distinction, thanks again for all support!!!I didn't join any FB groups. I just started searching for girls in Medellin and asked to be their friend. It just started to grow from there. You can also look at their friends list if it is open. I also used a technique where you can look at reactions to their posts and usually there are a few gringos. Then you look at their FB page and you can steal their contacts by just looking at who reacts to their posts. For example, I started with one girl and she posted a picture and there were two gringos who reacted to her picture. I went to their FB profile and they had over 60 girls who reacted to their post so I just checked out every girl and asked to be friends with most of them. Then I would go through the process again with each girl. Before you know it, you have hundreds of FB friends who are attractive girls in Medellin.

Once that happens, FB will start recommending young attractive girls in Medellin to you and you just start asking to be their friends. Also FB starts recommending you to young attractive girls in Medellin and they will ask to be your friend.

Now I have 830 FB friends so I am slowing down now and being much more selective. I am also starting to defriend a number of FB girls now because they no longer make the cut or they are asking too much money. You don't need to have 830 FB girls but it doesn't hurt in allowing you to have options when you are in town.

MiamiBoy1
10-19-22, 17:13
Has anyone used Revolut cards to get money out of ATMs? Are there any fees or advantages of using Revolut vs regular bank cards like Chase, etc. Also, has anyone used Revolut to wire transfer funds to pay for rent, etc in Colombia?

Knowledge
10-19-22, 17:18
More than anything else it depends on the girl. It's helpful to check them out in one of the short time places to decide whether you want to take it further. I'm not sure what you mean by "negotiate travel. " I suspect you are referring to paying more money. My advice about that is to negotiate a fee that includes the sex acts you specify and the girl's presence in your room for the time it tacks to perform them. As a guideline, 30 K is the prevailing rate for a "rato" (about 30 minutes or 1 pop, whichever comes first). I've never had a girl refuse 50 K for a trip to my place. A couple of caveats, my 50 K fee generally includes an open bar and food if they want it, also my sample size of houseguests is small because I'm much more selective about who I bring home compared to who I bring up into one of the no tell hotels in Centro.


I was wondering if its worth it taking a centro girl to your hotel. Is the cost the same or does it depending on location? Should and how would you negotiate travel to and from the hotel?

TIA.

Knowledge
10-19-22, 17:21
I don't use Revolut. I assume it involves fees as mentioned by the original poster. I do use a few banks that don't charge ATM transaction fees and I only use the Colombia bank ATMs that don't charge transaction fees so I don't pay transaction fees ever. There is a long list of posts about various debit card issuers. As I mentioned I have a few of them and I don't care about anything other than limits and fees. When I say fees I am referring to the hidden variety as well as the per transaction variety. I consider minimum balances a hidden fee for example.


Has anyone used Revolut cards to get money out of ATMs? Are there any fees or advantages of using Revolut vs regular bank cards like Chase, etc. Also, has anyone used Revolut to wire transfer funds to pay for rent, etc in Colombia?

Incrociatore
10-19-22, 17:51
I was wondering if its worth it taking a centro girl to your hotel. Is the cost the same or does it depending on location? Should and how would you negotiate travel to and from the hotel?

TIA.It is going to be more expensive, and it has to be negotiated upfront. Not an option for a quick, but ok if you want to spend 2 hours. I suggest you to test the girl, and if you like her, you'll bring her home on the next run. It's risky to take a girl from El Centro to your place, if you don't know her. Some are drug addict and they may even carry a knife to defend themself from the guys who want to still their profits. Test before, that is my suggestion.

Surfer500
10-19-22, 18:02
Just checked the USD to COP rate at XE.com at 16:55 UTC the rate was 4,831.

Is there something going on as to why it's been climbing so much lately, I doubt it has any thing to do with Petro, and who knows when it will hit 5,000.

ILikeButts
10-19-22, 18:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwQWdbeFW40

Found the girls who drugged and robbed with Scopolamine and this is what happened- Part 1.

This is pretty cool and interesting.

Shady criminal chica caught after drugging the wrong people.Great video, props to the dude who got drugged and was willing to share his experience with the world. I'm curious to see part 2, they were talking about him getting his stuff back. The more just result would be these bitches get charged with attempted murder.

Also interesting was that it exactly fit in the same stereotypical pattern. Dude finds girl on tinder and she is super eager to come straight to his apartment to bang him with no discussion of money. In this case he specifically asked if they wanted $ and said he didn't like to pay. She of course said no I'm not a prostitute. If it seems too good to be true....

JjBee62
10-19-22, 20:07
My man! Appreciate the report. There is so much bickering between adults but between you, JjBee62, and WorldTravel69 map, I'll be good.

I'll be in town Tuesday 10/25 for about a week. Staying in the heart of the beast at Hotel Nutibara. I know how to move in not so safe areas so I'll be good. I stayed in the slums in Bogota and was fine.

My Spanish is horrible but it'll have to do as I do not have enough time to learn anything of significance by next week.In everyone else's defense, I'm probably the worst offender when it comes to bickering. However, if I was helpful, I'm glad and I hope your trip is spectacular.

The bickering has always been here, always will be. Combined, there are several hundred years of mongering experience here. Each person has their own style and each person wonders why everyone else doesn't see the benefits of doing what they do. Ego clashes are inevitable.

Knowledge
10-19-22, 20:42
You come at a good time. The US dollar is at 4,800+ today.


A note: This forum has devolved to Paleolithic times. Seriously 75% of the last 50 pages should all be in "Stupid Shit in Medelland". This topic is "Medellin Reports". No wonder so many noobies are posting with their hands out, it is damn near impossible to find good information. Anyways.

The biggest piece of advice. Learn Spanish. Especially listening. It makes such a huge difference when you can have a conversation with someone. Fuck duo lingo, use Pimsluer, find tutors online, go to Spanish language exchange meetups in your city. Get your practice in. You'll regret it if you show up with nothing.

Security Stuff:

I have 3 wallets, 3 debit cards (with less than 500 on them and NOT set to auto refill) and 3 phones. I never take my main phone anywhere, it is always locked in my safe. This way, if I get mugged, I have 0 hesitation in giving my stuff away. My contacts sync to the cloud. It will suck to lose the SIM card and WhatsApp chats but that's life.

Financial stuff:

There's a banking service app Revolut. It has a max withdrawal of $1000 USD / mo, but the fee afterwards is super reasonable (. 5% I have tried all the major ATMs and found Davienda to give me the best rate (after declining the ATMs conversion of course), it's about 3-4 percent off the exchange and no fee.

Getting around:

I've been using indriver for everything. Usually only a few minutes, love the cash payment after, great way to get rid of coins as a tip. Drivers friendly.

Saturday. Went to Luna Lunera around 6/7 pm, very few people in there. 20 k entry. Minimum 3 beer bucket 75 k for a seat next to the poles (though not a whole lot of dancing going on). Lady drinks 25 k. If you come to Medellin to bang 9's /10's then don't bother, but I had a good time groping the ladies and handing them 2 k bills (when the mesero changes it for you, he'll keep a 2 k bill for himself. He tells you this). Took a lady up, she was so cute and tight tiny body. We talked about kissing and ball sucking but neither actually happened. She had lied to me making an excuse about cameras in the room and how she would get in trouble. I almost walked out but I was so horny and she was still quite sensual pushing her body against me and kissing my neck. That being said, I would not repeat because what bullshit. She still had the nerve to ask for a tip after. 210 k for 30 minutes (310 k for 60), but knock was definitely closer to 15-20 minutes. Long day of travel went to apartment to sleep.

Sunday. Spent the day getting situated, groceries, seeing the area around my apartment. Oh and a seeking date! We met during the day and I took her to the cat cafe. She was not into it LOL! We went to a love motel after (my apartment has a no prostitutes rule and while she was dressed very cute, it bordered the line, and I wanted to play it safe). I intentionally didn't ask for specific activities because she seemed quite timid and I wanted to take it slow because I'm hoping to see her again and develop something more naturally. Anyways, we'll see how that goes. 200 k.

Met up with a board member and we had a nice chat and beers at the bar under San peters apartments. The owner came by and gave everyone a drink ticket for the next visit and a free shot of rum! We decided to head out to La Isla but got there too early (8) and the place was empty. Met up with a random other American who found the same issue and the 3 of us headed to Poblado to burn a bit of time before heading back. This was fun and I realized that more than anything else, it would be great to have a buddy or two on my trips.

After heading back to La Isla, we paid a cover fee of 50 k and then had to buy a bottle for 280 k (this included a service fee) in order to have any kind of proper seating. Mesero seated us then glared at us until we picked something haha. I really liked this place, the girls were very cute and there was lots of quick lap dances and you could just pull anyone walking by or flag anyone over to sit down and chat. Almost all American / foreign clientele. Crispest 2 k bills I've ever seen and no forced propina (though I gave one anyways). The music wasn't too loud, the bathroom was nice. I also had some very sweet conversations and got a few phone numbers. Take out for later because the price seemed stupid - 210 k for 3 private dances, 310 k for 30 minutes in a habitation, I would rather get to know them better, see if they laugh at my terrible jokes and get a better session that's more like a date.

None of us took anyone back and we went to luna lunera. The fellas weren't super impressed but I was having a great time. The ladies recognized me from the night before lmao. I was also a dirty mother fucker that day and was wearing the same outfit from the night before. In my defense, it had only been a couple hours of wear the day before and smelled fine! This time the lady who impressed me with her dancing promised me no upsell or bullshit, but then still asked for a propina for ball sucking which I gave in to, she was doing a good job. She was on her phone a few times which bugged me but apparently she owns a business and it had gotten robbed. I heard her mother weeping retelling the story to her when our session was over. I don't know why we continued, I suppose she would've gotten in trouble for stopping the session for any reason. Really sucky situation.

I chided everyone on my way up for the earlier knock the last time. This time it was only 4 minutes early, but still, early is early. I scolded the maid. Buddies still had fun getting lap dances it turns out. We were done and got some food in poblado and went our separate ways.

More tales to come! I rented a second place for an upcoming weekend where I can properly host some of Medellin's finest ladies. I'll let why'all know how that goes. I recognize I've been acting like a silly gringo, but that ends now, no more excuses.

Hit me up if you're here! Looking to do normal stuff as well.

JustTK
10-19-22, 22:05
A note: This forum has devolved to Paleolithic times. Seriously 75% of the last 50 pages should all be in "Stupid Shit in Medelland". This topic is "Medellin Reports". No wonder so many noobies are posting with their hands out, it is damn near impossible to find good information. Come on man, who cares what others think about which girl is better looking. Its all subjective anyway. Philosophy is so much more enriching.

Dcrist0527
10-20-22, 01:03
Mr E. I respect the hell out of you. You are near legend status. But you got this dead wrong.

Now, there are countless types of mongers: trophy hunters, bargain hunters, high volume guys, etc. So we all seek something different. And I can only give you my experience. But chemistry has been the most vital aspect. There is a huge difference when a girl wants to please you or when she's checking the boxes. I get that chemistry isn't necessary to dip your stick. But in my experience, chemistry is a multiplier. Really, without exception.


Sex is an act. Like cooking food. You do not have to go in the back to buddy up with the chef in order for him to make you a great meal. Regardless he is going to follow the recipe that he knows.

Likewise no chick ever said we have chemistry so I am going to make my mouth or pussy wetter than I did when I was with the last guy that I did not have a connection with. Most people just have sex how they have sex. They can not make it really good for one person and really bad for the next person.

An exception is maybe they won't do something that you like or refuse to try something that you ask. But as far as your dick going into their mouth or pussy it is pretty standard and can not be altered depending on the connection they have with someone.

Still nobody ever says what bad sex is and what good sex is. What did this person do different that really blew your socks off and made you say wow that is good sex? Do you think they did it on purpose and said I am going to give him good sex, or was that just the way they have sex?

MiamiSammy
10-20-22, 02:30
I will take a Sunday roast or Ploughman's Lunch any day over arepas or bandeja paisa any day of the week.British cuisine is an oxymoron.

Knowledge
10-20-22, 02:51
If you check the charts the dollar began its rocket ship like climb against the peso beginning about two weeks before election day. It has not pulled back in any meaningful way since then and has reached new highs more than ten times. If it was not Petro's election I don't know what else it could be. I don't feel like it much matters to most of us what the reason is. 5,000 looks well within reach. It will make life extremely difficult for anybody earning their living or relying on a pension in pesos.


Just checked the USD to COP rate at XE.com at 16:55 UTC the rate was 4,831.

Is there something going on as to why it's been climbing so much lately, I doubt it has any thing to do with Petro, and who knows when it will hit 5,000.

AmorPorFavor
10-20-22, 03:19
Mr E. I respect the hell out of you. You are near legend status. But you got this dead wrong.

Now, there are countless types of mongers: trophy hunters, bargain hunters, high volume guys, etc. So we all seek something different. And I can only give you my experience. But chemistry has been the most vital aspect. There is a huge difference when a girl wants to please you or when she's checking the boxes. I get that chemistry isn't necessary to dip your stick. But in my experience, chemistry is a multiplier. Really, without exception.Chemistry will also get you the awesome BBFS with TLN's. That's how I roll.

Mojo Bandit
10-20-22, 04:36
In everyone else's defense, I'm probably the worst offender when it comes to bickering. However, if I was helpful, I'm glad and I hope your trip is spectacular.

The bickering has always been here, always will be. Combined, there are several hundred years of mongering experience here. Each person has their own style and each person wonders why everyone else doesn't see the benefits of doing what they do. Ego clashes are inevitable.I disagree completely about the ideal that there is now or ever has been any bickering going on up in here, never has there been any bickering about which is better Facebook or El Centro, Casas or Strip clubs. Or who is stupid enough to go up into Parque Lleras and pay 200 K for a short time, let alone go up into Gustos and pay $200 for TLN. Never read any bickering about whether its worth paying more for good looking woman when you can get what's just at hand and available for cheaper. Never heard any bickering about how much one should pay a chica for her taxi, No sir! Never has there been any bickering up in here. And for the record my way of mongering is the best way and I do not understand why everyone doesn't just do it all like me.

JjBee62
10-20-22, 05:06
Mr E. I respect the hell out of you. You are near legend status. But you got this dead wrong.

Now, there are countless types of mongers: trophy hunters, bargain hunters, high volume guys, etc. So we all seek something different. And I can only give you my experience. But chemistry has been the most vital aspect. There is a huge difference when a girl wants to please you or when she's checking the boxes. I get that chemistry isn't necessary to dip your stick. But in my experience, chemistry is a multiplier. Really, without exception.Here's an exception.

Sexually I tend towards dominant. I control the flow, the positions and the tempo. Occasionally I'll have a girl who I've really connected with, but once the clothes come off she wants to drive. It ends up being completely unsatisfactory.

Here's another exception which I'm dealing with now. My girlfriend is too submissive, sexually. The chemistry is off the charts. 50 consecutive days together, her without a single other person to talk to and there wasn't so much as a frown. Every movie I picked she was thrilled with. She loved all of the food I introduced her to, and it was all good times.

However, unless I pushed myself to be more dominant, the sex was good, not great. When I went full dominant, it was great, but I had to operate outside of my comfort zone.

And here's a no chemistry exception which I've run into a couple of times. Find yourself stuck in a social situation with a girl you don't like and who doesn't like you. Add alcohol. Add that you're both horny and then end up alone with the girl. The sex can be downright explosive.

BarrioSpinners
10-20-22, 10:41
Great video, props to the dude who got drugged and was willing to share his experience with the world. I'm curious to see part 2, they were talking about him getting his stuff back. The more just result would be these bitches get charged with attempted murder.

Also interesting was that it exactly fit in the same stereotypical pattern. Dude finds girl on tinder and she is super eager to come straight to his apartment to bang him with no discussion of money. In this case he specifically asked if they wanted $ and said he didn't like to pay. She of course said no I'm not a prostitute. If it seems too good to be true....Back in Sihanukville. Cambodia- I have witnessed during my stay of 3 months 4 people drugged (plus the stories you hear from others). Same as with Scopolamine they were still walking like zombies a couple of days later, drawsy etc but they usually had a "financial agreement" before. Personally I have only a couple beers alone before hunting, I don't smoke and most important I never let the lady sleep with me and talking about money is the first job of the mission.

Snook
10-20-22, 15:03
I know a lot of the girls leave during Christmas to go home to be with families. When in December do they start leaving? Dec 8 is a national holiday (Feast of the Immaculate Conception). Are the bars open on this holiday, and do the girls still hang out in Centro?

Thanks and happy hunting.

Snook.

MiamiBoy1
10-20-22, 16:23
Mr E. I respect the hell out of you. You are near legend status. But you got this dead wrong.

Now, there are countless types of mongers: trophy hunters, bargain hunters, high volume guys, etc. So we all seek something different. And I can only give you my experience. But chemistry has been the most vital aspect. There is a huge difference when a girl wants to please you or when she's checking the boxes. I get that chemistry isn't necessary to dip your stick. But in my experience, chemistry is a multiplier. Really, without exception.Me and you prefer fine dining experience (yes, experience, not just the food we put in our stomachs) while he prefers a burrito to go. What amazes me is that he thinks that to dip his stick in a random girl without chemistry is the norm and can't get any better. High volume guy's set of mind. Fortunately, having sex for many of us is not equal to taking a shit or brushing teeth.

Villainy
10-20-22, 17:54
If you check the charts the dollar began its rocket ship like climb against the peso beginning about two weeks before election day. It has not pulled back in any meaningful way since then and has reached new highs more than ten times. If it was not Petro's election I don't know what else it could be. I don't feel like it much matters to most of us what the reason is. 5,000 looks well within reach. It will make life extremely difficult for anybody earning their living or relying on a pension in pesos.The US Federal Reserve has been raising the Fed Funds Rate in order to tamp down inflation. The US Treasury rates have risen accordingly, which leads to a strong Dollar. If you check the exchange rates against almost all the world's major currencies you will find the Dollar has been super strong. (Euro, Pound, Yen.) So Petro's election isn't the obvious cause. There are many other factors.

Tom Dick 69
10-20-22, 18:50
I don't speak spanish. Though I know some words and sentences in Spanish, I cannot talk in spanish. I almost always have to use translate app.

I had session with 11 girls in 12 days. All oral and sex was with condom. Some or all girls might have done atleast BJ without condom for more money. No one allowed DFK, about 2 allowed namesake lip to lip kiss for 1 or 2 seconds, half of them are fine with kissing on their face, forehead, neck. Even though 1 hour sessions sounds good value for money, I found most girls lose interest after 30 minutes. So I stick with 30 minutes unless the girl was still going good then I extend more.

I used WorldTraveller69's Medellin list and map. I am sharing here mostly the info that would be useful to update the list and map.

For all the places below, the info before ' is what I gathered from the list and map, the info after ' is my contribution, hopefully to update the list and map database.

I took photos for some of the places, please let me know if you / WorldTraveler69 needs it.

El Chagualo. West of the Hospital Metro.

2. La Casa de Doña Fanny. Corner of Cl61#53-08: At 4 pm Sat, 6 chicas, rating 5/10. Not much English friendly, didn't ask price since I am not doing anyway.

3. Calle 61 # 53-16 ?piso 2.7 pm: At 4 pm Sat, closed as expected.

4. OVO Wiskerya, Cl61#53-40 next to #42.7 pm to: At 4 pm Sat, door was open to take a sneak peak, but business was not yet open as expected.

5. Name? CL 61 # 53-66, piso 2. 7 pm to: At 4 pm Sat, it was open. About 8 chicas, rating 5/10. The setting was more like restaurant bar than casa.

6. Sala de Masajes Doña Esneda, Cl61 (Moore)#53-78, piso 2: Seems no more, on ringing the bell, an 8 year old boy answered from piso 2, in Spanish.

Prado. East of the Prado Metro Station.

1. * Casa de Piedra, or Lindas Chicas, Cl58 (Av. Oriental)#50 a-54, Brown Stone Wall with White Metal Gate: At 4:30 pm Sat, it was closed (locked inside), no indication of it is occupied.

2. Barcelona. Sala de Massajes, Cl59 (Cuba)#50-12: The notice outside in spanish seems to say they moved to Cl59#49-22, but the girl at Cl59#49-22 told no chica.

3. Hotel Balcones de Cuba, Cl59#46-44, Room 301: Not there in map. Also, couldn't find. The female receptionist on piso 2 on the SW corner of Cl59&Cr47 told no massajo.

4. Traviesas Sexi, Calle 58 #45 d-104: Man inside told no chica / massajo.

5. Casa Cuba, Cr48#58-64? Maybe 68: #64 is a shop, #68 - no chica. Either no one opened or the lady inside told no chica.

Los Angeles. East of Carrera 46 (Av. J. E. Gaitan / Av. Oriental).

1. Pamela (ex Paisa Relax) – Sala de Masajes, Cr45 (El Palo)#57-71, piso 2: Found but closed.

2. Dulce Compania, Cr45 (El Palo)#57-55:6 chicas at 6 pm wed, was told more chicas at sat noon. On Sat 2:45 pm, 6 chicas, about 6/10 rating. Didn't do session.

3. Club de Amigas Sexy. Sala de Masajes, Cr45 d #57-67: Notice says 3 k cover, was not charged, maybe for the entry to the small bar. 5 chicas on wed 6 pm. On Sat 3 pm, 8 chicas, rating 6-7/10.55 k /30 min 70 k /45 min 85 k /60 min. The girl showered on a nice request. Shower water is cold.

4. *Aiffe. Sala de Masajes, Cl57 (Argentina)#43-27: Wed 5 pm 3-4 chicas, my shower optional she won't. Mon 5 pm, 6 chicas. The girl was bit friendly and showered as I asked. Sun 4 pm, 4 chicas. 50 k /30 min 85 k / HR. Open till 5 or 6 pm on Sunday. In their logbook, almost every one did session for 50 k.

5. *New Life. Sala de Masajes, Cl56 (Bolivia)#43-39, piso 2: 3 k viewing fee, price increased from Aug1 5 k /15 min. So 60 k /30 min 80 k /45 100 k /60.1st time wed 4 pm: about 5-8 chicas. The girl I had insisted I shower, but she won't. 2nd time Tues. 4 pm: 10 chicas, she showered as I nicely asked to shower for 1 minute. 3rd time Sun 4 pm: shown 10 chicas and 5 more might have been occupied. She showered as I requested. She asked for tip at end, but I didn't encourage tip. She told no English, but for this, she spoke good English for this: 'tip. Tip for me'.

6. Cl54 #42-13 Turcos paradise: closed / couldn't find.

7. Cr43 #55-xx. : closed / couldn't find.

8. Cr43 #55-49. Divine women: No more, new resident. Please remove from map.

9. Cr45 #55-45. Akami. : No more, new family resident. Please remove from map.

La Candelaria. East of and between the Prado Metro and Parque Berrio Stations and West of Cr 46.

(Av. J. E. Gaitan / Av. Oriental).

1. Closed or Moved-Casa de Fantasias, Cl57 (La Paz) #50-19: Lady on piso 3 told no chica.

2. Masajes Zanday, Cr47#57 a-34, piso 2. Sun 10 am-4 pm: 7 chicas at Fri 6:30 pm, 80 k / HR, she showered. Closed at Sun 3 pm.

3. Safari. Sala de Masajes), Cr 46 #57 a-21, piso 3. 6+. 35 k /30 min 55 k / HR. 304-569-92-41,231 09 88, cell 310 837 71 39. Mon-Sat 10 am-7 pm. : No one opened Mon 5 pm.

4. Locuras? (ex-Odisea), Cl57 a#46-10 (Barbacoa and Oriental), piso 2 or 3: Girl opened door on piso2, rooms with bed on piso3, few smoking, but told no chica.

5. Paris Club, Cr47 (Sucre) #56-34: Guy inside told no chica, but saw a chica on stairs in lingerie, also selling / displayed lingerie.

6. Chicas Punto Com, Cl54 (Caracas)#49-97, piso 2, Inside Centro Comercial Boulevard de Caracas, across from El Cid: Armona Spa, 321 755 51 20. Sat 5 pm, couldn't find 97, but this was the only one on 97 piso2 across EL Cid. 10 chicas. 6/10 rating. The girl I had had attitude, showered reluctantly only after arguing. Only 1 shot and she told no more touching, shower water cold. 55 k /30 min, 75/30. In the chica logbook, it was mentioned 40, so I assume 40 goes to girl and 15 to the establishment.

7. Yakusa. Sala de Masajes (Next to Hotel Deseos), Cr50 a#53-38 (Av. Maracaibo): On Sat 5 pm, 3 chicas, 5/10 rating.

8. Zaza, Cr47 (Sucre)#53-42: Thu 3 pm Didn't like any of 5 chicas. Info on the visiting card: Latinas Sexi, Cell 311 484 87 90, servicios 50 why 70, PROMOCION 80 MIL.

CENTRO.

Taberna Montijos, Diagonal 50 (Transversal 49) #50-25? #50-15: not in map.

Bombona. East of Avenida Oriental.

1. Natalia, Cl49 (Av. Ayacucho)#43-68:60 k /30 min 90 k / HR? 70 k /45 min. Thu 1 pm. 5 chicas. Owner spoke ok english. She showered. Sun 5 pm door was closed (not sure if it is locked) and there was a bicycle blocking the door. So, I assumed it is closed.

2. Cl48 #43-63. Motel mementos plaza. : Couldn't find.

ESTADIO / La 70 - W. Of Rio Medellin, Estadadio metro.

1. Acuabella – Sala de Masajes, Cl50 (Colombia) #78 a-11.3. 40 k /30 min Massage and HJ, 70 k same but she takes her clothes off, 100 k / HR FS. Tel: Hours: The entire street (Cl50#78 a-1 to end) is a big wall.

2. Oriental Spa, Cl49 b#77 a-28 (a 1 cuadra de la 4 ta brigada). Prices: _ (57) 315 787 1294.11 am-9 pm, Sun 10 am-6 pm. https://www.orientalspa.co/: At 5 pm Thu, lady opened the door and asked me to come at 6 pm or next day. 100 k /60.

3. Los Angeles de Charlei, Cl51#74-53? Prices? +57 313 525 62 66.24 hrs.

Scort-masajes-why-erotismo-en-medellin-24-horas. Negocio: site not in map, and it is a big apartment complex with parking lot, pedestrian+car gate closed with security in front. We need to know the apartment number, then we need to clear the security gate.

4. Energy. Sala de Masajes, Cr74#49-101, near Cl50 (Colombia) right next to the Stadium. 15-20.135 k+/30 min 145 k /40 min 160 k+/ HR. (See website for prices). 436 11 31,416 83 32, out of country (574) 230 66 08.9 am-9:30 pm, ?xSu. http://fantasiasenergy.com/index.html. Their fb page says https://chicasenergy.com/, 130 k /30 160 k /60 min. About 8 chicas at 3 pm Thu, most of them 6-7/10 rating. I paid 160 k for 1 hour and was told no more after 1 shot at 30 minutes. I said I paid for 1 hour, and the girl told me I can stay in the room for 1 hour. Without her LOL. When I told the management, the 2 ladies didn't care and told me to call policia. It's a rip off - 160 k for 1 shot 30 minutes.

El Velodromo. West of Rio Medellin.

1. Tantra Medellin "Donde mi Rey", Cr80#44 b-139.7-8. 80 k /30 min, 100 k /45 min, 130 k / HR FS. 412 7059, Cell: 314 8403 745, Cell: 301 365 18 69.10 am-10 pm.

http://www.tantramedellin.com/ https://www.facebook.com/tantramedellin.

https://www.instagram.com/tantramedellindondemirey/?hl=en 3 chicas about 6/10 rating at 5:30 pm Thu. 120 k /45 min 150 k /60 min, no 30 minute. It's expensive, so didn't proceed.

BOLIVARIANA.

3. Name? Next door to BMW Autos (10-26-2021).

Cr68 A#43-13, Piso?. 4-5.70 k /30 min 100 k / HR. Tel? Hours? Not in list.

CONQUISTADORES. West of the Rio Medellin, behind Cerro Nutibara.

1. Luna Lunera 33, Av. 33#63 b-219.10-15. Cover 50 k (or 15 k, 2 drink minimum), Beers 15 k, Drinks 50 k, 110 k /30 min, 100 k exit fee. PBX (574) 235 4700, Cell: 3206646061, 310 835 7020.24/7. https://www.facebook.com/LUNA-Lunera-33-435027583252262/.

http://lunalunera.com.co/start/: 210 k /45 min. 310 k for 2 girls for 1 HR.

2. Samsara Club, Av. 33#65-09.6-10. Beers 3 k, 50 k /30 min 60 k / HR. (57) (4)2657123, Cell: 31463828 93.10 am-10 pm, Fri-Sun 10 am-6 am. : Guy sitting outside told no / casa. I felt he knew I am there for chica. So, I left assuming it's not a chica place.

3. LOS Angeles, Cl33#65 c-10, Int 201, near the Carbonsito Disco. 5-7. 75 k /45 min 100 k / HR, prices go.

Up at night. 351 50 29.24/7 with appointments, or Thu-Sat 8 pm-6 am: 2 xbell (rang twice or there were 2 bells), no body seems to be there. No 'Carbonsito' nearby, only tea shop.

4. Kassandra. Sala de Masajes, Av. 33#66 b-107? Masajistas. Prices? (57) (4) 426 5122. Cell: (57) 312 890 9020.24/7: A black guy told 'no masaje.'

5. Sala de Masajes Eroticos, Cr66 b#33-07, interior 202. ? Chicas. Prices?. +57 300 235 0414. Mon-Sat 10:30 am-8 pm Sunday / Festivals 12 noon-6 pm.

https://www.eroticosenlaciudad.com/clasificados-eroticos/colombia/es/salasde-masajes/medellin/spa-para-caballeros.php: rang 202, no one there.

6. Eros Spa. Cr81 a#34 a-15 Apt 301.4-7. 70-100 k / HR. Tel: Call First, WhatsApp: 322-202-5690.24/7. Apartment complex with security. I felt the security knows what is going on. Took elevator to 3rd floor. Door 301 opened after like 2 minutes after ringing the bell few times. I was not allowed to enter 301, but a girl immediately took me to the 4th floor apt upstairs. 12 chicas at 6:30 pm Thu. 70 k /60 min, no 30 minute option.

7. Hostal Malevaje (Bar), Av. 33#76-85, piso 2.3+. 45 k bottle, Chicas 80 k. 250 35 32. Hours?: No bell & no body opened on small knock. Forgot my exact time, must be around 5 pm.

8. Casa Blue Room, Av. 33#78-63.4-5. No Cover. 110-150 k / HR. 250 03 63,416 83 32,436 11 31. Mon-Sat 11 am-9:30 pm. https://www.facebook.com/Blue-Room-Medellin-351315181631001/.

https://casablueroom.com/: guy on 2nd floor window told no message.

9. Dharma Massage, Cr80 b#32 ee 41.7+. 120 k / HR. 504 64 06,310 370 96 33.24/7: Not chica place, there was a guy working at front desk. Looked like a carpenting work office.

Av80#42-84 piso 2: there in map, not in list. Couldn't find. The Av80#42 ends at like 65 or so, then #43 starts.

Cr78#32 ee-25. Breakfast 8 am+: it is 2 buildings. Found only 1 chica, looked more like a civilian eating there instead of a working girl.

In centro, at Cr50#55-14. This place was not here in ISG. 4 girls, looks trans. Didn't try. 100 k.

Tr39 a-70 a-28: some European / English guy opened the door after few small knock. He told it's an apt. I saw 10-12 people sitting around a table in sofas. Saw 1-2 girls looked European. So, it concluded it's not a chica place.

Cl32#65-40: Not in the list (?but in the map). Rang, an old lady answered from 3rd floor balcony in Spanish. I had eye contact with her but I think I didn't ask anything (chica / massage). Since she didn't open the door, I assumed it is not a chica place.

Mr Enternational
10-20-22, 19:20
Me and you prefer fine dining experience (yes, experience, not just the food we put in our stomachs) while he prefers a burrito to go. What amazes me is that he thinks that to dip his stick in a random girl without chemistry is the norm and can't get any better. High volume guy's set of mind. Fortunately, having sex for many of us is not equal to taking a shit or brushing teeth.For me there is a difference. Of course I fuck normal women who I may have chemistry with. But with a hooker then yes it is pretty much fast food for me. I do not need to feed and drink with them and I do not need chemistry with them. And like I said, the chemistry still guarantees nothing about the sex even with a chick that is not a hooker. I am usually just fucking hookers until a non-pro gets off work or out of school or whatever. Hookers are not my only source of sex so I do not need anything emotionally from them nor am I disillusioned by them by thinking they are my friend or they were really into it as some posters write. Because stop that money and they will not be into anything no matter how much chemistry there is.

Lucky Nuts
10-20-22, 20:29
I disagree completely about the ideal that there is now or ever has been any bickering going on up in here, never has there been any bickering about which is better Facebook or El Centro, Casas or Strip clubs. Or who is stupid enough to go up into Parque Lleras and pay 200 K for a short time, let alone go up into Gustos and pay $200 for TLN. Never read any bickering about whether its worth paying more for good looking woman when you can get what's just at hand and available for cheaper. Never heard any bickering about how much one should pay a chica for her taxi, No sir! Never has there been any bickering up in here. And for the record my way of mongering is the best way and I do not understand why everyone doesn't just do it all like me. 🤣128520;.Awesome posts Mojo & Jbee. Can always use a good belly laugh. I haven't posted in a while as it's the same ole same old questions on here. Anyhow as you guys know I mostly just see a lot of regular Facebook chicas. And then service gets quite good when you are seeing friends of friends of Facebook chicas. Chicas working UTR (under the radar). I think ColombiaLover posts about this tactic as well. It's nice to find the chicas that aren't advertising and / or seeing a lot of guys. So there's Pro Tip "The Best Way To Monger" number one. And don't bicker with me please LOL. And don't PM and ask for their contacts. You need to be recommended up the line by other chicas.

But what I really want to mention is why aren't there more gringos visiting Bar Grille Nuevo in el centro? I posted about this place at least a couple times last winter. It's located in a relatively safe area of el centro right across the street from all the Botero statues aka Botero Plaza. About three weeks ago I went again with two other guys and we all found 20 year old flacas & lindas to get laid for 70 mil including the rooms. I like to start my trips in this place because the sex is always with condom here. Both by her choice and mine. And when I haven't had sex in weeks it's no problem to enjoy sex with a condom. After two or three pops it's a different story for me so then I rely on my regulars.

So if you're thinking of going to Bar Grille Nuevo for the first time just be aware the place is an absolute dump and the rooms are pretty disgusting. But there are some great chicas in this place for well under 20 bucks. So my advice is to forget about the shitty bar and the disgusting rooms and just focus on the hot chicas. Once you sit down and get a beer (which will be opened in front of you) just scan the room for the chica of your choice. Don't be shy to make eye contact and wave her over to your table. Buy her a drink and start the conversation. You can use google translator if necessary as there is cell signal underground here. Oh yeah you need to go downstairs from the sidewalk to enter this gold mine of pussy. Please post your experiences. And tell the chicas you can only pay 70 mil. They will not refuse your offer. Personally I leave el cento before the metro shuts down which I'm guessing is 8 PM. I usually arrive the bar about 5 PM although the chicas tell me they arrive between 2 and 3 PM. I doubt there's much happening in the afternoon but never been so I don't know.

Mtndew704
10-20-22, 21:50
The current exchange rate has me itching for another trip. As always I appreciate the back and forth on here, was entertaining to read. I wish everyone currently in Colombia or going on a trip soon a safe and fun trip.

MiamiBoy1
10-20-22, 22:29
And like I said, the chemistry still guarantees nothing about the sex even with a chick that is not a hooker. That would be an exception, not a general rule. Maybe some guy got a small dick which she doesn't feel inside of her, or maybe he cums in less than a minute. Or maybe a chica got some kind of an issue. Low libido, little experience, or whatnot. Which makes them incompatible in sex despite the chemistry. Nothing can 100% guarantee a great sex, but there is definitely a very strong positive correlation between the chemistry and sex, which you denied in one of your previous posts.

JjBee62
10-20-22, 23:11
Awesome posts Mojo & Jbee. Can always use a good belly laugh. I haven't posted in a while as it's the same ole same old questions on here. Anyhow as you guys know I mostly just see a lot of regular Facebook chicas. And then service gets quite good when you are seeing friends of friends of Facebook chicas. Chicas working UTR (under the radar). I think ColombiaLover posts about this tactic as well. It's nice to find the chicas that aren't advertising and / or seeing a lot of guys. So there's Pro Tip "The Best Way To Monger" number one. And don't bicker with me please LOL. And don't PM and ask for their contacts. You need to be recommended up the line by other chicas.

But what I really want to mention is why aren't there more gringos visiting Bar Grille Nuevo in el centro? I posted about this place at least a couple times last winter. It's located in a relatively safe area of el centro right across the street from all the Botero statues aka Botero Plaza. About three weeks ago I went again with two other guys and we all found 20 year old flacas & lindas to get laid for 70 mil including the rooms. I like to start my trips in this place because the sex is always with condom here. Both by her choice and mine. And when I haven't had sex in weeks it's no problem to enjoy sex with a condom. After two or three pops it's a different story for me so then I rely on my regulars.

So if you're thinking of going to Bar Grille Nuevo for the first time just be aware the place is an absolute dump and the rooms are pretty disgusting. But there are some great chicas in this place for well under 20 bucks. So my advice is to forget about the shitty bar and the disgusting rooms and just focus on the hot chicas. Once you sit down and get a beer (which will be opened in front of you) just scan the room for the chica of your choice. Don't be shy to make eye contact and wave her over to your table. Buy her a drink and start the conversation. You can use google translator if necessary as there is cell signal underground here. Oh yeah you need to go downstairs from the sidewalk to enter this gold mine of pussy. Please post your experiences. And tell the chicas you can only pay 70 mil. They will not refuse your offer. Personally I leave el cento before the metro shuts down which I'm guessing is 8 PM. I usually arrive the bar about 5 PM although the chicas tell me they arrive between 2 and 3 PM. I doubt there's much happening in the afternoon but never been so I don't know.I believe the Metro runs until 10 pm.

JjBee62
10-20-22, 23:40
That would be an exception, not a general rule. Maybe some guy got a small dick which she doesn't feel inside of her, or maybe he cums in less than a minute. Or maybe a chica got some kind of an issue. Low libido, little experience, or whatnot. Which makes them incompatible in sex despite the chemistry. Nothing can 100% guarantee a great sex, but there is definitely a very strong positive correlation between the chemistry and sex, which you denied in one of your previous posts.Here's a chemistry lesson. If you fill a glass half full of vodka, no matter how creative you get with filling the other half, what you're feeling when you drink it is from the vodka.

In any P4 P situation, the glass is half full of money. Everything that follows only happens because you put the money into the mix. She might think you're the most handsome man in the world, she might be truly excited to be with you, but if she isn't getting paid she almost certainly will be doing something else.

With every girl 50% of the chemistry is coming out of your pocket.

I'm not exempting myself. If I wasn't spending my girlfriend wouldn't be there. No illusions whatsoever about that.

Mtndew704
10-21-22, 00:40
That would be an exception, not a general rule. Maybe some guy got a small dick which she doesn't feel inside of her, or maybe he cums in less than a minute. Or maybe a chica got some kind of an issue. Low libido, little experience, or whatnot. Which makes them incompatible in sex despite the chemistry. Nothing can 100% guarantee a great sex, but there is definitely a very strong positive correlation between the chemistry and sex, which you denied in one of your previous posts.Do you speak fluent spanish?

Nounce
10-21-22, 01:33
...Still nobody ever says what bad sex is and what good sex is...This is one type of good sex in my book, tussi or not. A skillful sex worker can do something close. I have been asking about similar question about how good is good. LOL.


..but I get all the same feeling as being on the brink of orgasm. This goes on for like 30 of 40 seconds each time without me giving any leche. I get this like 10 times during the night but never any leche. I hold them to their promise to stay till breakfast (at least near breakfast time, the friend had school in the morning). And like dutiful soldiers they took turns on bringing me to this near ecstasy phase for a couple of hours.

I have never been near an experience like this before and I would think it's related to the pink shit. I got like 400 seconds with near ecstasy compared with a normal result would be 2 leche, ....


Sex is an act. Like cooking food. ....I think sex is a skill so experience matters. I think chemistry can improve sex but is not necessary to have great sex.

Lefeu
10-21-22, 02:50
...who is stupid enough to go up into Parque Lleras and pay 200 K for a short time...I have paid 200 k cops for ST in Parque Lleras. IMO, I thought the Vennie girl was well worth that amount. I even invited her to visit me at my apartment, which she did several times during my stay.

A girl who is worth 200 cops ST will be worth 200 k whether she is in FB or strip club, or whatever.

MiamiBoy1
10-21-22, 02:53
Here's a chemistry lesson. If you fill a glass half full of vodka, no matter how creative you get with filling the other half, what you're feeling when you drink it is from the vodka.

In any P4 P situation, the glass is half full of money. Everything that follows only happens because you put the money into the mix. She might think you're the most handsome man in the world, she might be truly excited to be with you, but if she isn't getting paid she almost certainly will be doing something else.

With every girl 50% of the chemistry is coming out of your pocket.

I'm not exempting myself. If I wasn't spending my girlfriend wouldn't be there. No illusions whatsoever about that.That's fine, I'm trying to make the best out of the other 50% that isn't coming out of my pocket.

BTW, how said it is always 50/50? Could be a different proportion. Up to 100% coming out of your pocket if we speak about street hookers. Even if you date a non pro, you still pay one way or another, but money come second.

Nounce
10-21-22, 03:39
...Please post your experiences. And tell the chicas you can only pay 70 mil. They will not refuse your offer. Personally I leave el cento before the metro shuts down which I'm guessing is 8 PM. I usually arrive the bar about 5 PM although the chicas tell me they arrive between 2 and 3 PM. I doubt there's much happening in the afternoon but never been so I don't know.I have been there a few times based on your recommendation that my wingman joked that it's my favorite place. It was not good the last couple of times I was there.

JjBee62
10-21-22, 14:41
That's fine, I'm trying to make the best out of the other 50% that isn't coming out of my pocket.That's what everyone is trying to do. Some guys give the girls incentive by offering a tip if they provide better service. Some give gifts. Some provide drugs or alcohol. We all have the same goal, get laid and get our money's worth. If you can do it by talking, even better.


BTW, how said it is always 50/50? Could be a different proportion. Up to 100% coming out of your pocket if we speak about street hookers. Even if you date a non pro, you still pay one way or another, but money come second.87.3% of all percentages are made up on the spot. It could be less, or more. If you're strictly talking P4P, then I think the minimum is 50%. Outside of P4P the math gets hairy.

Here's an example. 5 or 6 years ago there was a very well known Facebook girl who was well reviewed. She set her sights on a friend of mine, an ex-pat with successful businesses in Medellin. She was dating him, sex, of course, but not getting paid.

How important was the money? He's a nice guy, attractive, in shape, excellent Spanish. Obviously if she could have hooked him, her finances would have been much improved. Her kid would get a better education. Bright future. It only lasted a few months. I don't know if she got tired of waiting or he got bored with boning a prepago for free.

Unless you're dating someone who is your financial equal, money is always a big part of the equation. Money is the leading cause of divorce. Dating in Colombia you're almost always financially way above the girls. You're a meal ticket. Even if you just have an average income, you're a potential green card. I've been asked twice by girls who I wasn't dating if I would marry them to get them a green card.

Surfer500
10-21-22, 15:04
I flew Spirit for the first time from MDE to FLL and when was given my boarding pass and upon checking it, it had SSSS stamped on it, and I was told I would have to go thru enhanced screening at the boarding gate. They had the plane parked at two adjoining gates 12 A & 12 be and people chosen to be screened where sent down the adjacent ramp, screened, and then fed into the line to board. Didn't take long, full body pat down, they went thru my carry on, checked everything I had, and made me fire up my computer and cell phone, and then confiscated a bag of coffee I had because it weighed over 350 grams, and they had a sign posted about there being a weight limit of some sorts.

It was a Spirit employee doing the screening, he wasn't Colombian, and then they finally swabbed my hands to test for whatever, and I was allowed to board. They had quite a set-up with three people inspecting people, cubicles / tables set up, and the machine to analyze samples. I suspect this flight, and the other Spirit flight that departed 1/2 an hour earlier in the adjacent gate were identified for screening and set up where there were dual gates side by side, as the inspection area was of good size with like 5 different tables.

This happened to me about five years ago in Iceland of all places on a flight out of the Country. I have no clue as to why I was chosen. It's interesting because I have Global Entry and on both of my boarding passes they had TSA pre-check on them, and when I arrived in Florida I was wondering if there were going to be some further complications but none whatsoever, I went to a kiosk and it scanned my face, and five seconds later I got a printed receipt, was asked where I was coming from, what I was bringing back, and was on my way.

I have never seen a secondary inspection set up like this at the Rio Negro airport before because it was hidden out of sight were there was two adjacent boarding gates that meet about halfway down the boarding ramp, nor have I ever seen this before flying out of MDE on American, Jet Blue, Avianca, COPA or Mexicana but know it has to be happening with them as well.

As to why I was chosen for secondary screening, even with having Global Entry is a mystery to me, perhaps it was totally random, or perhaps for some other reason.

Regardless, don't have any bags of coffee with you greater than 350 grams in case you get tagged for SSSS, I had like 5 bags of coffee, and they were checking them out very carefully!

Plan77
10-21-22, 17:31
Thank you so much for sparing time to share your trip report. Kudos.


I don't speak spanish. Though I know some words and sentences in Spanish, I cannot talk in spanish. I almost always have to use translate app.

I had session with 11 girls in 12 days. All oral and sex was with condom. Some or all girls might have done atleast BJ without condom for more money. No one allowed DFK, about 2 allowed namesake lip to lip kiss for 1 or 2 seconds, half of them are fine with kissing on their face, forehead, neck. Even though 1 hour sessions sounds good value for money, I found most girls lose interest after 30 minutes. So I stick with 30 minutes unless the girl was still going good then I extend more.

I used WorldTraveller69's Medellin list and map. I am sharing here mostly the info that would be useful to update the list and map.

For all the places below, the info before ' is what I gathered from the list and map, the info after ' is my contribution, hopefully to update the list and map database.

I took photos for some of the places, please let me know if you / WorldTraveler69 needs it.

El Chagualo. West of the Hospital Metro.

2. La Casa de Doa Fanny. Corner of Cl61#53-08: At 4 pm Sat, 6 chicas, rating 5/10. Not much English friendly, didn't ask price since I am not doing anyway.

3. Calle 61 # 53-16 ?piso 2.7 pm: At 4 pm Sat, closed as expected.

4. OVO Wiskerya, Cl61#53-40 next to #42.7 pm to: At 4 pm Sat, door was open to take a sneak peak, but business was not yet open as expected.

5. Name? CL 61 # 53-66, piso 2. 7 pm to: At 4 pm Sat, it was open. About 8 chicas, rating 5/10. The setting was more like restaurant bar than casa.

6. Sala de Masajes Doa Esneda, Cl61 (Moore)#53-78, piso 2: Seems no more, on ringing the bell, an 8 year old boy answered from piso 2, in Spanish.

Prado. East of the Prado Metro Station.

1. * Casa de Piedra, or Lindas Chicas, Cl58 (Av. Oriental)#50 a-54, Brown Stone Wall with White Metal Gate: At 4:30 pm Sat, it was closed (locked inside), no indication of it is occupied.

2. Barcelona. Sala de Massajes, Cl59 (Cuba)#50-12: The notice outside in spanish seems to say they moved to Cl59#49-22, but the girl at Cl59#49-22 told no chica.

3. Hotel Balcones de Cuba, Cl59#46-44, Room 301: Not there in map. Also, couldn't find. The female receptionist on piso 2 on the SW corner of Cl59&Cr47 told no massajo.

4. Traviesas Sexi, Calle 58 #45 d-104: Man inside told no chica / massajo.

5. Casa Cuba, Cr48#58-64? Maybe 68: #64 is a shop, #68 - no chica. Either no one opened or the lady inside told no chica.

Los Angeles. East of Carrera 46 (Av. J. E. Gaitan / Av. Oriental).

1. Pamela (ex Paisa Relax) Sala de Masajes, Cr45 (El Palo)#57-71, piso 2: Found but closed.

2. Dulce Compania, Cr45 (El Palo)#57-55:6 chicas at 6 pm wed, was told more chicas at sat noon. On Sat 2:45 pm, 6 chicas, about 6/10 rating. Didn't do session.

3. Club de Amigas Sexy. Sala de Masajes, Cr45 d #57-67: Notice says 3 k cover, was not charged, maybe for the entry to the small bar. 5 chicas on wed 6 pm. On Sat 3 pm, 8 chicas, rating 6-7/10.55 k /30 min 70 k /45 min 85 k /60 min. The girl showered on a nice request. Shower water is cold.

4. *Aiffe. Sala de Masajes, Cl57 (Argentina)#43-27: Wed 5 pm 3-4 chicas, my shower optional she won't. Mon 5 pm, 6 chicas. The girl was bit friendly and showered as I asked. Sun 4 pm, 4 chicas. 50 k /30 min 85 k / HR. Open till 5 or 6 pm on Sunday. In their logbook, almost every one did session for 50 k.

5. *New Life. Sala de Masajes, Cl56 (Bolivia)#43-39, piso 2: 3 k viewing fee, price increased from Aug1 5 k /15 min. So 60 k /30 min 80 k /45 100 k /60.1st time wed 4 pm: about 5-8 chicas. The girl I had insisted I shower, but she won't. 2nd time Tues. 4 pm: 10 chicas, she showered as I nicely asked to shower for 1 minute. 3rd time Sun 4 pm: shown 10 chicas and 5 more might have been occupied. She showered as I requested. She asked for tip at end, but I didn't encourage tip. She told no English, but for this, she spoke good English for this: 'tip. Tip for me'.

6. Cl54 #42-13 Turcos paradise: closed / couldn't find.

7. Cr43 #55-xx. : closed / couldn't find.

8. Cr43 #55-49. Divine women: No more, new resident. Please remove from map.

9. Cr45 #55-45. Akami. : No more, new family resident. Please remove from map.

La Candelaria. East of and between the Prado Metro and Parque Berrio Stations and West of Cr 46.

(Av. J. E. Gaitan / Av. Oriental).

1. Closed or Moved-Casa de Fantasias, Cl57 (La Paz) #50-19: Lady on piso 3 told no chica.

2. Masajes Zanday, Cr47#57 a-34, piso 2. Sun 10 am-4 pm: 7 chicas at Fri 6:30 pm, 80 k / HR, she showered. Closed at Sun 3 pm.

3. Safari. Sala de Masajes), Cr 46 #57 a-21, piso 3. 6+. 35 k /30 min 55 k / HR. 304-569-92-41,231 09 88, cell 310 837 71 39. Mon-Sat 10 am-7 pm. : No one opened Mon 5 pm.

4. Locuras? (ex-Odisea), Cl57 a#46-10 (Barbacoa and Oriental), piso 2 or 3: Girl opened door on piso2, rooms with bed on piso3, few smoking, but told no chica.

5. Paris Club, Cr47 (Sucre) #56-34: Guy inside told no chica, but saw a chica on stairs in lingerie, also selling / displayed lingerie.

6. Chicas Punto Com, Cl54 (Caracas)#49-97, piso 2, Inside Centro Comercial Boulevard de Caracas, across from El Cid: Armona Spa, 321 755 51 20. Sat 5 pm, couldn't find 97, but this was the only one on 97 piso2 across EL Cid. 10 chicas. 6/10 rating. The girl I had had attitude, showered reluctantly only after arguing. Only 1 shot and she told no more touching, shower water cold. 55 k /30 min, 75/30. In the chica logbook, it was mentioned 40, so I assume 40 goes to girl and 15 to the establishment.

7. Yakusa. Sala de Masajes (Next to Hotel Deseos), Cr50 a#53-38 (Av. Maracaibo): On Sat 5 pm, 3 chicas, 5/10 rating.

8. Zaza, Cr47 (Sucre)#53-42: Thu 3 pm Didn't like any of 5 chicas. Info on the visiting card: Latinas Sexi, Cell 311 484 87 90, servicios 50 why 70, PROMOCION 80 MIL.

CENTRO.

Taberna Montijos, Diagonal 50 (Transversal 49) #50-25? #50-15: not in map.

Bombona. East of Avenida Oriental.

1. Natalia, Cl49 (Av. Ayacucho)#43-68:60 k /30 min 90 k / HR? 70 k /45 min. Thu 1 pm. 5 chicas. Owner spoke ok english. She showered. Sun 5 pm door was closed (not sure if it is locked) and there was a bicycle blocking the door. So, I assumed it is closed.

2. Cl48 #43-63. Motel mementos plaza. : Couldn't find.

ESTADIO / La 70 - W. Of Rio Medellin, Estadadio metro.

1. Acuabella Sala de Masajes, Cl50 (Colombia) #78 a-11.3. 40 k /30 min Massage and HJ, 70 k same but she takes her clothes off, 100 k / HR FS. Tel: Hours: The entire street (Cl50#78 a-1 to end) is a big wall.

2. Oriental Spa, Cl49 b#77 a-28 (a 1 cuadra de la 4 ta brigada). Prices: _ (57) 315 787 1294.11 am-9 pm, Sun 10 am-6 pm. https://www.orientalspa.co/: At 5 pm Thu, lady opened the door and asked me to come at 6 pm or next day. 100 k /60.

3. Los Angeles de Charlei, Cl51#74-53? Prices? +57 313 525 62 66.24 hrs.

Scort-masajes-why-erotismo-en-medellin-24-horas. Negocio: site not in map, and it is a big apartment complex with parking lot, pedestrian+car gate closed with security in front. We need to know the apartment number, then we need to clear the security gate.

4. Energy. Sala de Masajes, Cr74#49-101, near Cl50 (Colombia) right next to the Stadium. 15-20.135 k+/30 min 145 k /40 min 160 k+/ HR. (See website for prices). 436 11 31,416 83 32, out of country (574) 230 66 08.9 am-9:30 pm, ?xSu. http://fantasiasenergy.com/index.html. Their fb page says https://chicasenergy.com/, 130 k /30 160 k /60 min. About 8 chicas at 3 pm Thu, most of them 6-7/10 rating. I paid 160 k for 1 hour and was told no more after 1 shot at 30 minutes. I said I paid for 1 hour, and the girl told me I can stay in the room for 1 hour. Without her LOL. When I told the management, the 2 ladies didn't care and told me to call policia. It's a rip off - 160 k for 1 shot 30 minutes.

El Velodromo. West of Rio Medellin.

1. Tantra Medellin "Donde mi Rey", Cr80#44 b-139.7-8. 80 k /30 min, 100 k /45 min, 130 k / HR FS. 412 7059, Cell: 314 8403 745, Cell: 301 365 18 69.10 am-10 pm.

http://www.tantramedellin.com/ https://www.facebook.com/tantramedellin.

https://www.instagram.com/tantramedellindondemirey/?hl=en 3 chicas about 6/10 rating at 5:30 pm Thu. 120 k /45 min 150 k /60 min, no 30 minute. It's expensive, so didn't proceed.

BOLIVARIANA.

3. Name? Next door to BMW Autos (10-26-2021).

Cr68 A#43-13, Piso?. 4-5.70 k /30 min 100 k / HR. Tel? Hours? Not in list.

CONQUISTADORES. West of the Rio Medellin, behind Cerro Nutibara.

1. Luna Lunera 33, Av. 33#63 b-219.10-15. Cover 50 k (or 15 k, 2 drink minimum), Beers 15 k, Drinks 50 k, 110 k /30 min, 100 k exit fee. PBX (574) 235 4700, Cell: 3206646061, 310 835 7020.24/7. https://www.facebook.com/LUNA-Lunera-33-435027583252262/.

http://lunalunera.com.co/start/: 210 k /45 min. 310 k for 2 girls for 1 HR.

2. Samsara Club, Av. 33#65-09.6-10. Beers 3 k, 50 k /30 min 60 k / HR. (57) (4)2657123, Cell: 31463828 93.10 am-10 pm, Fri-Sun 10 am-6 am. : Guy sitting outside told no / casa. I felt he knew I am there for chica. So, I left assuming it's not a chica place.

3. LOS Angeles, Cl33#65 c-10, Int 201, near the Carbonsito Disco. 5-7. 75 k /45 min 100 k / HR, prices go.

Up at night. 351 50 29.24/7 with appointments, or Thu-Sat 8 pm-6 am: 2 xbell (rang twice or there were 2 bells), no body seems to be there. No 'Carbonsito' nearby, only tea shop.

4. Kassandra. Sala de Masajes, Av. 33#66 b-107? Masajistas. Prices? (57) (4) 426 5122. Cell: (57) 312 890 9020.24/7: A black guy told 'no masaje.'

5. Sala de Masajes Eroticos, Cr66 b#33-07, interior 202. ? Chicas. Prices?. +57 300 235 0414. Mon-Sat 10:30 am-8 pm Sunday / Festivals 12 noon-6 pm.

https://www.eroticosenlaciudad.com/clasificados-eroticos/colombia/es/salasde-masajes/medellin/spa-para-caballeros.php: rang 202, no one there.

6. Eros Spa. Cr81 a#34 a-15 Apt 301.4-7. 70-100 k / HR. Tel: Call First, WhatsApp: 322-202-5690.24/7. Apartment complex with security. I felt the security knows what is going on. Took elevator to 3rd floor. Door 301 opened after like 2 minutes after ringing the bell few times. I was not allowed to enter 301, but a girl immediately took me to the 4th floor apt upstairs. 12 chicas at 6:30 pm Thu. 70 k /60 min, no 30 minute option.

7. Hostal Malevaje (Bar), Av. 33#76-85, piso 2.3+. 45 k bottle, Chicas 80 k. 250 35 32. Hours?: No bell & no body opened on small knock. Forgot my exact time, must be around 5 pm.

8. Casa Blue Room, Av. 33#78-63.4-5. No Cover. 110-150 k / HR. 250 03 63,416 83 32,436 11 31. Mon-Sat 11 am-9:30 pm. https://www.facebook.com/Blue-Room-Medellin-351315181631001/.

https://casablueroom.com/: guy on 2nd floor window told no message.

9. Dharma Massage, Cr80 b#32 ee 41.7+. 120 k / HR. 504 64 06,310 370 96 33.24/7: Not chica place, there was a guy working at front desk. Looked like a carpenting work office.

Av80#42-84 piso 2: there in map, not in list. Couldn't find. The Av80#42 ends at like 65 or so, then #43 starts.

Cr78#32 ee-25. Breakfast 8 am+: it is 2 buildings. Found only 1 chica, looked more like a civilian eating there instead of a working girl.

In centro, at Cr50#55-14. This place was not here in ISG. 4 girls, looks trans. Didn't try. 100 k.

Tr39 a-70 a-28: some European / English guy opened the door after few small knock. He told it's an apt. I saw 10-12 people sitting around a table in sofas. Saw 1-2 girls looked European. So, it concluded it's not a chica place.

Cl32#65-40: Not in the list (?but in the map). Rang, an old lady answered from 3rd floor balcony in Spanish. I had eye contact with her but I think I didn't ask anything (chica / massage). Since she didn't open the door, I assumed it is not a chica place.

Plan77
10-21-22, 17:33
I know a lot of the girls leave during Christmas to go home to be with families. When in December do they start leaving? Dec 8 is a national holiday (Feast of the Immaculate Conception). Are the bars open on this holiday, and do the girls still hang out in Centro?

Thanks and happy hunting.

Snook.I would love to know this as well. I am planning a trip between Dec 10 and 27th and wondering if Christmas time means too many gringos, too few girls and very high rates. I would hate to visit casas if the girl numbers go down by 50% around these days.

Can someone please advise.

Mtndew704
10-21-22, 18:00
I have been there a few times based on your recommendation that my wingman joked that it's my favorite place. It was not good the last couple of times I was there.Shit that is 1 of my favorite places to go for a cheap fuck and drinks.

Lucky Nuts
10-21-22, 22:25
I have been there a few times based on your recommendation that my wingman joked that it's my favorite place. It was not good the last couple of times I was there.


Shit that is 1 of my favorite places to go for a cheap fuck and drinks.So that's why I posted the info. We need more gringos going in here so that more of the hot chicas (flacas & lindas) will show up more often. Just don't ruin it and pay them more than 70 ML pesos please.

Knowledge
10-21-22, 22:27
American rolls out portable room divider type screens with their logo on it at Rionegro. They divert passengers who are flagged for secondary screening to an area behind the screens. I don't know how frequently they do the secondary screening but I don't remember ever seeing American board a flight out of Rionegro without setting up the area. Back when Spirit was the only airline operating out of Rionegro during the lockdown, I took one of their flights. I got the same treatment you described except I was not made to fire up any electronics. I also had my coffee confiscated. I did not have the dreaded SSSS on my boarding pass. I think the screening was random.


I flew Spirit for the first time from MDE to FLL and when was given my boarding pass and upon checking it, it had SSSS stamped on it, and I was told I would have to go thru enhanced screening at the boarding gate. They had the plane parked at two adjoining gates 12 A & 12 be and people chosen to be screened where sent down the adjacent ramp, screened, and then fed into the line to board. Didn't take long, full body pat down, they went thru my carry on, checked everything I had, and made me fire up my computer and cell phone, and then confiscated a bag of coffee I had because it weighed over 350 grams, and they had a sign posted about there being a weight limit of some sorts.

It was a Spirit employee doing the screening, he wasn't Colombian, and then they finally swabbed my hands to test for whatever, and I was allowed to board. They had quite a set-up with three people inspecting people, cubicles / tables set up, and the machine to analyze samples. I suspect this flight, and the other Spirit flight that departed 1/2 an hour earlier in the adjacent gate were identified for screening and set up where there were dual gates side by side, as the inspection area was of good size with like 5 different tables.

This happened to me about five years ago in Iceland of all places on a flight out of the Country. I have no clue as to why I was chosen. It's interesting because I have Global Entry and on both of my boarding passes they had TSA pre-check on them, and when I arrived in Florida I was wondering if there were going to be some further complications but none whatsoever, I went to a kiosk and it scanned my face, and five seconds later I got a printed receipt, was asked where I was coming from, what I was bringing back, and was on my way.

I have never seen a secondary inspection set up like this at the Rio Negro airport before because it was hidden out of sight were there was two adjacent boarding gates that meet about halfway down the boarding ramp, nor have I ever seen this before flying out of MDE on American, Jet Blue, Avianca, COPA or Mexicana but know it has to be happening with them as well.

As to why I was chosen for secondary screening, even with having Global Entry is a mystery to me, perhaps it was totally random, or perhaps for some other reason.

Regardless, don't have any bags of coffee with you greater than 350 grams in case you get tagged for SSSS, I had like 5 bags of coffee, and they were checking them out very carefully!

Mtndew704
10-21-22, 22:34
So that's why I posted the info. We need more gringos going in here so that more of the hot chicas (flacas & lindas) will show up more often. Just don't ruin it and pay them more than 70 ML pesos please.What's the rate to take them to your hotel (I was at Nutibara). I asked several girls and got a variety of answers.

DogLife
10-21-22, 22:47
and made me fire up my computer and cell phone

Do they go thru the content in your devices? Because I have a lot of porn both in my laptop and phone.

Also files containing my userid / pwd for different FI and accounts.

Knowledge
10-21-22, 23:06
Excellent effort Sir, we all owe you a debt of gratitude.


I don't speak spanish. Though I know some words and sentences in Spanish, I cannot talk in spanish. I almost always have to use translate app.

I had session with 11 girls in 12 days. All oral and sex was with condom. Some or all girls might have done atleast BJ without condom for more money. No one allowed DFK, about 2 allowed namesake lip to lip kiss for 1 or 2 seconds, half of them are fine with kissing on their face, forehead, neck. Even though 1 hour sessions sounds good value for money, I found most girls lose interest after 30 minutes. So I stick with 30 minutes unless the girl was still going good then I extend more.

I used WorldTraveller69's Medellin list and map. I am sharing here mostly the info that would be useful to update the list and map.

For all the places below, the info before ' is what I gathered from the list and map, the info after ' is my contribution, hopefully to update the list and map database.

I took photos for some of the places, please let me know if you / WorldTraveler69 needs it.

El Chagualo. West of the Hospital Metro.

2. La Casa de Doa Fanny. Corner of Cl61#53-08: At 4 pm Sat, 6 chicas, rating 5/10. Not much English friendly, didn't ask price since I am not doing anyway.

3. Calle 61 # 53-16 ?piso 2.7 pm: At 4 pm Sat, closed as expected.

4. OVO Wiskerya, Cl61#53-40 next to #42.7 pm to: At 4 pm Sat, door was open to take a sneak peak, but business was not yet open as expected.

5. Name? CL 61 # 53-66, piso 2. 7 pm to: At 4 pm Sat, it was open. About 8 chicas, rating 5/10. The setting was more like restaurant bar than casa.

6. Sala de Masajes Doa Esneda, Cl61 (Moore)#53-78, piso 2: Seems no more, on ringing the bell, an 8 year old boy answered from piso 2, in Spanish.

Prado. East of the Prado Metro Station.

1. * Casa de Piedra, or Lindas Chicas, Cl58 (Av. Oriental)#50 a-54, Brown Stone Wall with White Metal Gate: At 4:30 pm Sat, it was closed (locked inside), no indication of it is occupied.

2. Barcelona. Sala de Massajes, Cl59 (Cuba)#50-12: The notice outside in spanish seems to say they moved to Cl59#49-22, but the girl at Cl59#49-22 told no chica.

3. Hotel Balcones de Cuba, Cl59#46-44, Room 301: Not there in map. Also, couldn't find. The female receptionist on piso 2 on the SW corner of Cl59&Cr47 told no massajo.

4. Traviesas Sexi, Calle 58 #45 d-104: Man inside told no chica / massajo.

5. Casa Cuba, Cr48#58-64? Maybe 68: #64 is a shop, #68 - no chica. Either no one opened or the lady inside told no chica.

Los Angeles. East of Carrera 46 (Av. J. E. Gaitan / Av. Oriental).

1. Pamela (ex Paisa Relax) Sala de Masajes, Cr45 (El Palo)#57-71, piso 2: Found but closed.

2. Dulce Compania, Cr45 (El Palo)#57-55:6 chicas at 6 pm wed, was told more chicas at sat noon. On Sat 2:45 pm, 6 chicas, about 6/10 rating. Didn't do session.

3. Club de Amigas Sexy. Sala de Masajes, Cr45 d #57-67: Notice says 3 k cover, was not charged, maybe for the entry to the small bar. 5 chicas on wed 6 pm. On Sat 3 pm, 8 chicas, rating 6-7/10.55 k /30 min 70 k /45 min 85 k /60 min. The girl showered on a nice request. Shower water is cold.

4. *Aiffe. Sala de Masajes, Cl57 (Argentina)#43-27: Wed 5 pm 3-4 chicas, my shower optional she won't. Mon 5 pm, 6 chicas. The girl was bit friendly and showered as I asked. Sun 4 pm, 4 chicas. 50 k /30 min 85 k / HR. Open till 5 or 6 pm on Sunday. In their logbook, almost every one did session for 50 k.

5. *New Life. Sala de Masajes, Cl56 (Bolivia)#43-39, piso 2: 3 k viewing fee, price increased from Aug1 5 k /15 min. So 60 k /30 min 80 k /45 100 k /60.1st time wed 4 pm: about 5-8 chicas. The girl I had insisted I shower, but she won't. 2nd time Tues. 4 pm: 10 chicas, she showered as I nicely asked to shower for 1 minute. 3rd time Sun 4 pm: shown 10 chicas and 5 more might have been occupied. She showered as I requested. She asked for tip at end, but I didn't encourage tip. She told no English, but for this, she spoke good English for this: 'tip. Tip for me'.

6. Cl54 #42-13 Turcos paradise: closed / couldn't find.

7. Cr43 #55-xx. : closed / couldn't find.

8. Cr43 #55-49. Divine women: No more, new resident. Please remove from map.

9. Cr45 #55-45. Akami. : No more, new family resident. Please remove from map.

La Candelaria. East of and between the Prado Metro and Parque Berrio Stations and West of Cr 46.

(Av. J. E. Gaitan / Av. Oriental).

1. Closed or Moved-Casa de Fantasias, Cl57 (La Paz) #50-19: Lady on piso 3 told no chica.

2. Masajes Zanday, Cr47#57 a-34, piso 2. Sun 10 am-4 pm: 7 chicas at Fri 6:30 pm, 80 k / HR, she showered. Closed at Sun 3 pm.

3. Safari. Sala de Masajes), Cr 46 #57 a-21, piso 3. 6+. 35 k /30 min 55 k / HR. 304-569-92-41,231 09 88, cell 310 837 71 39. Mon-Sat 10 am-7 pm. : No one opened Mon 5 pm.

4. Locuras? (ex-Odisea), Cl57 a#46-10 (Barbacoa and Oriental), piso 2 or 3: Girl opened door on piso2, rooms with bed on piso3, few smoking, but told no chica.

5. Paris Club, Cr47 (Sucre) #56-34: Guy inside told no chica, but saw a chica on stairs in lingerie, also selling / displayed lingerie.

6. Chicas Punto Com, Cl54 (Caracas)#49-97, piso 2, Inside Centro Comercial Boulevard de Caracas, across from El Cid: Armona Spa, 321 755 51 20. Sat 5 pm, couldn't find 97, but this was the only one on 97 piso2 across EL Cid. 10 chicas. 6/10 rating. The girl I had had attitude, showered reluctantly only after arguing. Only 1 shot and she told no more touching, shower water cold. 55 k /30 min, 75/30. In the chica logbook, it was mentioned 40, so I assume 40 goes to girl and 15 to the establishment.

7. Yakusa. Sala de Masajes (Next to Hotel Deseos), Cr50 a#53-38 (Av. Maracaibo): On Sat 5 pm, 3 chicas, 5/10 rating.

8. Zaza, Cr47 (Sucre)#53-42: Thu 3 pm Didn't like any of 5 chicas. Info on the visiting card: Latinas Sexi, Cell 311 484 87 90, servicios 50 why 70, PROMOCION 80 MIL.

CENTRO.

Taberna Montijos, Diagonal 50 (Transversal 49) #50-25? #50-15: not in map.

Bombona. East of Avenida Oriental.

1. Natalia, Cl49 (Av. Ayacucho)#43-68:60 k /30 min 90 k / HR? 70 k /45 min. Thu 1 pm. 5 chicas. Owner spoke ok english. She showered. Sun 5 pm door was closed (not sure if it is locked) and there was a bicycle blocking the door. So, I assumed it is closed.

2. Cl48 #43-63. Motel mementos plaza. : Couldn't find.

ESTADIO / La 70 - W. Of Rio Medellin, Estadadio metro.

1. Acuabella Sala de Masajes, Cl50 (Colombia) #78 a-11.3. 40 k /30 min Massage and HJ, 70 k same but she takes her clothes off, 100 k / HR FS. Tel: Hours: The entire street (Cl50#78 a-1 to end) is a big wall.

2. Oriental Spa, Cl49 b#77 a-28 (a 1 cuadra de la 4 ta brigada). Prices: _ (57) 315 787 1294.11 am-9 pm, Sun 10 am-6 pm. https://www.orientalspa.co/: At 5 pm Thu, lady opened the door and asked me to come at 6 pm or next day. 100 k /60.

3. Los Angeles de Charlei, Cl51#74-53? Prices? +57 313 525 62 66.24 hrs.

Scort-masajes-why-erotismo-en-medellin-24-horas. Negocio: site not in map, and it is a big apartment complex with parking lot, pedestrian+car gate closed with security in front. We need to know the apartment number, then we need to clear the security gate.

4. Energy. Sala de Masajes, Cr74#49-101, near Cl50 (Colombia) right next to the Stadium. 15-20.135 k+/30 min 145 k /40 min 160 k+/ HR. (See website for prices). 436 11 31,416 83 32, out of country (574) 230 66 08.9 am-9:30 pm, ?xSu. http://fantasiasenergy.com/index.html. Their fb page says https://chicasenergy.com/, 130 k /30 160 k /60 min. About 8 chicas at 3 pm Thu, most of them 6-7/10 rating. I paid 160 k for 1 hour and was told no more after 1 shot at 30 minutes. I said I paid for 1 hour, and the girl told me I can stay in the room for 1 hour. Without her LOL. When I told the management, the 2 ladies didn't care and told me to call policia. It's a rip off - 160 k for 1 shot 30 minutes.

El Velodromo. West of Rio Medellin.

1. Tantra Medellin "Donde mi Rey", Cr80#44 b-139.7-8. 80 k /30 min, 100 k /45 min, 130 k / HR FS. 412 7059, Cell: 314 8403 745, Cell: 301 365 18 69.10 am-10 pm.

http://www.tantramedellin.com/ https://www.facebook.com/tantramedellin.

https://www.instagram.com/tantramedellindondemirey/?hl=en 3 chicas about 6/10 rating at 5:30 pm Thu. 120 k /45 min 150 k /60 min, no 30 minute. It's expensive, so didn't proceed.

BOLIVARIANA.

3. Name? Next door to BMW Autos (10-26-2021).

Cr68 A#43-13, Piso?. 4-5.70 k /30 min 100 k / HR. Tel? Hours? Not in list.

CONQUISTADORES. West of the Rio Medellin, behind Cerro Nutibara.

1. Luna Lunera 33, Av. 33#63 b-219.10-15. Cover 50 k (or 15 k, 2 drink minimum), Beers 15 k, Drinks 50 k, 110 k /30 min, 100 k exit fee. PBX (574) 235 4700, Cell: 3206646061, 310 835 7020.24/7. https://www.facebook.com/LUNA-Lunera-33-435027583252262/.

http://lunalunera.com.co/start/: 210 k /45 min. 310 k for 2 girls for 1 HR.

2. Samsara Club, Av. 33#65-09.6-10. Beers 3 k, 50 k /30 min 60 k / HR. (57) (4)2657123, Cell: 31463828 93.10 am-10 pm, Fri-Sun 10 am-6 am. : Guy sitting outside told no / casa. I felt he knew I am there for chica. So, I left assuming it's not a chica place.

3. LOS Angeles, Cl33#65 c-10, Int 201, near the Carbonsito Disco. 5-7. 75 k /45 min 100 k / HR, prices go.

Up at night. 351 50 29.24/7 with appointments, or Thu-Sat 8 pm-6 am: 2 xbell (rang twice or there were 2 bells), no body seems to be there. No 'Carbonsito' nearby, only tea shop.

4. Kassandra. Sala de Masajes, Av. 33#66 b-107? Masajistas. Prices? (57) (4) 426 5122. Cell: (57) 312 890 9020.24/7: A black guy told 'no masaje.'

5. Sala de Masajes Eroticos, Cr66 b#33-07, interior 202. ? Chicas. Prices?. +57 300 235 0414. Mon-Sat 10:30 am-8 pm Sunday / Festivals 12 noon-6 pm.

https://www.eroticosenlaciudad.com/clasificados-eroticos/colombia/es/salasde-masajes/medellin/spa-para-caballeros.php: rang 202, no one there.

6. Eros Spa. Cr81 a#34 a-15 Apt 301.4-7. 70-100 k / HR. Tel: Call First, WhatsApp: 322-202-5690.24/7. Apartment complex with security. I felt the security knows what is going on. Took elevator to 3rd floor. Door 301 opened after like 2 minutes after ringing the bell few times. I was not allowed to enter 301, but a girl immediately took me to the 4th floor apt upstairs. 12 chicas at 6:30 pm Thu. 70 k /60 min, no 30 minute option.

7. Hostal Malevaje (Bar), Av. 33#76-85, piso 2.3+. 45 k bottle, Chicas 80 k. 250 35 32. Hours?: No bell & no body opened on small knock. Forgot my exact time, must be around 5 pm.

8. Casa Blue Room, Av. 33#78-63.4-5. No Cover. 110-150 k / HR. 250 03 63,416 83 32,436 11 31. Mon-Sat 11 am-9:30 pm. https://www.facebook.com/Blue-Room-Medellin-351315181631001/.

https://casablueroom.com/: guy on 2nd floor window told no message.

9. Dharma Massage, Cr80 b#32 ee 41.7+. 120 k / HR. 504 64 06,310 370 96 33.24/7: Not chica place, there was a guy working at front desk. Looked like a carpenting work office.

Av80#42-84 piso 2: there in map, not in list. Couldn't find. The Av80#42 ends at like 65 or so, then #43 starts.

Cr78#32 ee-25. Breakfast 8 am+: it is 2 buildings. Found only 1 chica, looked more like a civilian eating there instead of a working girl.

In centro, at Cr50#55-14. This place was not here in ISG. 4 girls, looks trans. Didn't try. 100 k.

Tr39 a-70 a-28: some European / English guy opened the door after few small knock. He told it's an apt. I saw 10-12 people sitting around a table in sofas. Saw 1-2 girls looked European. So, it concluded it's not a chica place.

Cl32#65-40: Not in the list (?but in the map). Rang, an old lady answered from 3rd floor balcony in Spanish. I had eye contact with her but I think I didn't ask anything (chica / massage). Since she didn't open the door, I assumed it is not a chica place.

Recondite
10-21-22, 23:08
What is good sex is completely subjective because we are all turned on by different things. Personally for me chemistry is essential to the best sex since I enjoy pleasing as much as being pleased. I love figuring out a woman's kinks and perversions and in my experience there needs to be some chemistry and trust for her to share that side of herself with me. I also appreciate sexual skill, as well as open-mindedness, and looks.

But we all look for different things and value what we look for differently. Good sex may be fucking a 9 for one guy regardless of her engagement. It may be finding a pro that can suck a golf ball out of a hose even if she's not the best looking or is otherwise cool to you for someone else. Some like a dominant woman another a submissive woman.


This is one type of good sex in my book, tussi or not. A skillful sex worker can do something close. I have been asking about similar question about how good is good. LOL.



I think sex is a skill so experience matters. I think chemistry can improve sex but is not necessary to have great sex.

ShinyCrazy
10-21-22, 23:22
I don't speak spanish.Great work! Pretty disappointing reports, though. No DFK and no BBBJ. I hope this is not going to be my experience. Have plans to stay at the Mansion, go to the casas, especially New Life and Zandaly during the day, then either partake of the talent in the bar at the Mansion or find a prepago on one of the websites for a visit to the Mansion in the evenings. If I'm not going to get BBBJ and DFK, then something is wrong in the world.

Knowledge
10-21-22, 23:27
You described the general trend accurately. The US dollar has in fact been steadily strengthening against world currencies, including the Colombian peso, since well before the summer election. I am referring to the incremental and accelerated spike above and beyond that trend that began as soon as polling began to break Petro's way about two weeks before election day. Petro knows this and it is why he and his people are distancing themselves from the peso's fall in the media on a daily basis. What happened to the UK pound hours after Liz Truss proposed a warmed over version of mid 1980's Reaganomics is another example of the same phenomenon. The dollar had been steadily making gains against European currencies well before the Truss mini budget, and then it took off like a rocket to reach an historical high. By comparison, against the euro the dollar matched its 20 year high but has not reached the level it did agains tthe pound recently. As I wrote earlier, I don't really care what's behind the dollar rise. I am very happy to enjoy the benefits. I do however like to have a holistic view of events. I'm apolitical in general and especially in Colombia. The local media are treating Petro fairly. I suspect the conservative media haven't gone after him over this issue because they are confident he won't be able to prevail against the wishes of the US and the Colombian landed gentry, especially when the working class begin to fall behind on high interest consumer loan payments and barrio shops stop extending credit for food purchases.


The US Federal Reserve has been raising the Fed Funds Rate in order to tamp down inflation. The US Treasury rates have risen accordingly, which leads to a strong Dollar. If you check the exchange rates against almost all the world's major currencies you will find the Dollar has been super strong. (Euro, Pound, Yen.) So Petro's election isn't the obvious cause. There are many other factors.

JustTK
10-21-22, 23:31
So that's why I posted the info. We need more gringos going in here so that more of the hot chicas (flacas & lindas) will show up more often. Just don't ruin it and pay them more than 70 ML pesos please.You should try at a weekend, you won't get a seat. Usually there are only 1 or 2 groups of foriegners, the rest are all locals. So I doubt foreigners will affect the price at all.

Maelstrom
10-22-22, 00:07
I flew Spirit for the first time from MDE to FLL and when was given my boarding pass and upon checking it, it had SSSS stamped on it, and I was told I would have to go thru enhanced screening at the boarding gate. They had the plane parked at two adjoining gates 12 A & 12 be and people chosen to be screened where sent down the adjacent ramp, screened, and then fed into the line to board. Didn't take long, full body pat down, they went thru my carry on, checked everything I had, and made me fire up my computer and cell phone, and then confiscated a bag of coffee I had because it weighed over 350 grams, and they had a sign posted about there being a weight limit of some sorts.

It was a Spirit employee doing the screening, he wasn't Colombian, and then they finally swabbed my hands to test for whatever, and I was allowed to board. They had quite a set-up with three people inspecting people, cubicles / tables set up, and the machine to analyze samples. I suspect this flight, and the other Spirit flight that departed 1/2 an hour earlier in the adjacent gate were identified for screening and set up where there were dual gates side by side, as the inspection area was of good size with like 5 different tables.

This happened to me about five years ago in Iceland of all places on a flight out of the Country. I have no clue as to why I was chosen. It's interesting because I have Global Entry and on both of my boarding passes they had TSA pre-check on them, and when I arrived in Florida I was wondering if there were going to be some further complications but none whatsoever, I went to a kiosk and it scanned my face, and five seconds later I got a printed receipt, was asked where I was coming from, what I was bringing back, and was on my way.

I have never seen a secondary inspection set up like this at the Rio Negro airport before because it was hidden out of sight were there was two adjacent boarding gates that meet about halfway down the boarding ramp, nor have I ever seen this before flying out of MDE on American, Jet Blue, Avianca, COPA or Mexicana but know it has to be happening with them as well.

As to why I was chosen for secondary screening, even with having Global Entry is a mystery to me, perhaps it was totally random, or perhaps for some other reason.

Regardless, don't have any bags of coffee with you greater than 350 grams in case you get tagged for SSSS, I had like 5 bags of coffee, and they were checking them out very carefully!US agents doing the secondary screening? I have Global Entry and skip all that nonsense! Brought back loads of coffee bags from Brazil and Colombia no issues. you prob got flagged for something for this to happen

Balboa
10-22-22, 01:44
I would love to know this as well. I am planning a trip between Dec 10 and 27th and wondering if Christmas time means too many gringos, too few girls and very high rates. I would hate to visit casas if the girl numbers go down by 50% around these days.

Can someone please advise.Pre Christmas rocks! Afterwards, not as much.

Snook
10-22-22, 01:46
I flew Spirit for the first time from MDE to FLL and when was given my boarding pass and upon checking it, it had SSSS stamped on it, and I was told I would have to go thru enhanced screening at the boarding gate. They had the plane parked at two adjoining gates 12 A & 12 be and people chosen to be screened where sent down the adjacent ramp, screened, and then fed into the line to board. Didn't take long, full body pat down, they went thru my carry on, checked everything I had, and made me fire up my computer and cell phone, and then confiscated a bag of coffee I had because it weighed over 350 grams, and they had a sign posted about there being a weight limit of some sorts.

It was a Spirit employee doing the screening, he wasn't Colombian, and then they finally swabbed my hands to test for whatever, and I was allowed to board. They had quite a set-up with three people inspecting people, cubicles / tables set up, and the machine to analyze samples. I suspect this flight, and the other Spirit flight that departed 1/2 an hour earlier in the adjacent gate were identified for screening and set up where there were dual gates side by side, as the inspection area was of good size with like 5 different tables.

This happened to me about five years ago in Iceland of all places on a flight out of the Country. I have no clue as to why I was chosen. It's interesting because I have Global Entry and on both of my boarding passes they had TSA pre-check on them, and when I arrived in Florida I was wondering if there were going to be some further complications but none whatsoever, I went to a kiosk and it scanned my face, and five seconds later I got a printed receipt, was asked where I was coming from, what I was bringing back, and was on my way.

I have never seen a secondary inspection set up like this at the Rio Negro airport before because it was hidden out of sight were there was two adjacent boarding gates that meet about halfway down the boarding ramp, nor have I ever seen this before flying out of MDE on American, Jet Blue, Avianca, COPA or Mexicana but know it has to be happening with them as well.

As to why I was chosen for secondary screening, even with having Global Entry is a mystery to me, perhaps it was totally random, or perhaps for some other reason.

Regardless, don't have any bags of coffee with you greater than 350 grams in case you get tagged for SSSS, I had like 5 bags of coffee, and they were checking them out very carefully!Sssss printed on your boarding pass is randomly generated. Has nothing to do about who you are or your TSA status. It means you will have a secondary inspection. Some airlines randomly just pull people from the boarding line. If you don't have sssss you won't be searched. At least you know ahead of time so if you have something you ahouldn't you can dump it prior to boarding.

Balboa
10-22-22, 02:00
For me there is a difference. Of course I fuck normal women who I may have chemistry with. But with a hooker then yes it is pretty much fast food for me. I do not need to feed and drink with them and I do not need chemistry with them. And like I said, the chemistry still guarantees nothing about the sex even with a chick that is not a hooker. I am usually just fucking hookers until a non-pro gets off work or out of school or whatever. Hookers are not my only source of sex so I do not need anything emotionally from them nor am I disillusioned by them by thinking they are my friend or they were really into it as some posters write. Because stop that money and they will not be into anything no matter how much chemistry there is.

Mr E you crack me up, Lol. Are you really like this or is it just an online persona?

PS, your non pros are looking for something as well, besides your dashing personality and sexual ability. You have to know this already.

And isn’t it just common sense that chemistry between 2 people matter, whether it be PFP, NP, whatever? Of course it does.
It’s human nature.
The debate is funny to me.

CK465
10-22-22, 02:01
Pre Christmas rocks! Afterwards, not as much.Isn't a lot of the girls desperate after the holidays? Some guys on the thread mention that January and February are the best times to go.

Fun Luvr
10-22-22, 03:17
US agents doing the secondary screening? I have Global Entry and skip all that nonsense! Brought back loads of coffee bags from Brazil and Colombia no issues. you prob got flagged for something for this to happenGlobal Entry only works at US airports. It will not do anything for you at MDE.

AmorPorFavor
10-22-22, 03:35
US agents doing the secondary screening? I have Global Entry and skip all that nonsense! Brought back loads of coffee bags from Brazil and Colombia no issues. you prob got flagged for something for this to happenDid you declare the coffee? I love that Juan Valdez and brought back three 1 lb bags last time. I was so tired I forgot to declare it and did not get searched. I have global entry. Is it OK to bring back coffee, just not too much?

Dcrist0527
10-22-22, 03:54
Here's a chemistry lesson. If you fill a glass half full of vodka, no matter how creative you get with filling the other half, what you're feeling when you drink it is from the vodka.

In any P4 P situation, the glass is half full of money. Everything that follows only happens because you put the money into the mix. She might think you're the most handsome man in the world, she might be truly excited to be with you, but if she isn't getting paid she almost certainly will be doing something else.

With every girl 50% of the chemistry is coming out of your pocket.

I'm not exempting myself. If I wasn't spending my girlfriend wouldn't be there. No illusions whatsoever about that.Decent analogy. The flaw though: vodka is the sex. You're getting that regardless. That's what your money brings you. The chemistry is the dry vermouth. Do you want plain / straight vodka or do you want to enhance it to a vodka martini? And hey, not everyone wants a martini, right? And that's ok. Some guys just want straight vodka. Fast, efficient. Maybe they don't want to spend the time talking. Maybe their Spanish is challenged. Whatever the reason, they'll still get the sex. But some like to elevate the experience. Yes, we both know the money is the key to opening that door. But the quality of the experience is enhanced with chemistry. Is it necessary? Clearly not. But it's been a wise investment for me, time and time again.

I will say, and this is not to be bragadocious. But I've had three girls give me some freebies. They say it is because they like me, I treat them with respect and they are comfortable with me. I promise you it is not because of my looks, my elite sexual performance or anything of that sort. Two of the three were in Medellin. One with a Vennie and one with a paisa. The paisa was actually bbfscip. I don't mean to claim chemistry leads to freebies. These were girls I've previously seen multiple times in a p4 p setup. But I'm 100% sure it wouldn't have happened without chemistry.

Bottom line, in my opinion, if you can find a way for a girl to want to please you, yes even P4P, your experience is significantly enhanced. And that's why I love Medellin. For whatever reason, the paisas are a little more personable, a little more real, and open to a little more chemistry. Just my experience. And guys, seriously, if I can develop chemistry, anyone can with minimal effort. I'm nearing 50, overweight, can't dance and I'm not fluent in Spanish. I do not overpay. But I'm telling you: genuine respect will open most doors.

JjBee62
10-22-22, 05:11
I would love to know this as well. I am planning a trip between Dec 10 and 27th and wondering if Christmas time means too many gringos, too few girls and very high rates. I would hate to visit casas if the girl numbers go down by 50% around these days.

Can someone please advise.The one Christmas I spent in Medellin I was able to find a girl on Christmas eve and visited a couple of casas on the day after Christmas and almost every day in the 5 days before Christmas. Fewer girls, but there were options.

However, I've got around 2,000 contacts, so I can always find someone, just can't always find the one I want.

The Christmas Eve girl gave me a couple of presents, BBFS and gonorrhea. Rang in the New Year with Santa driving the reindeer down my chimney every time I had to pee.

I'll be in Medellin for Christmas this year. Probably doing Christmas with the girlfriend's family, but will be taking a few days on my own.

FlowState985
10-22-22, 06:05
Did you declare the coffee? I love that Juan Valdez and brought back three 1 lb bags last time. I was so tired I forgot to declare it and did not get searched. I have global entry. Is it OK to bring back coffee, just not too much?I doubt you need to declare the coffee. Customs care mainly are drugs and food like meat and fruits that can contain parasites / bugs that would damage the ecosystem.

Surfer500
10-22-22, 15:34
I doubt you need to declare the coffee. Customs care mainly are drugs and food like meat and fruits that can contain parasites / bugs that would damage the ecosystem.Regardless of whether you have Global Entry or not, you do not have to declare anything if your not asked which is the case many times, at least from what I have experienced arriving at LAX having Global Entry.

However in Florida the other day, I was first asked if I was bringing back any tobacco or liquor, and then asked if I had anything to declare.

When I was asked that question, I told them everything I was bringing back which besides coffee included candy, crackers, and chips.

Technically your supposed to declare anything your bringing back that you didn't bring with you when you left the Country, it's that simple.

The declaration is not a function of acceptable items allowed or prohibited items that cannot be brought back like specific fruits, meats, etc.

Combo
10-22-22, 16:50
I would love to know this as well. I am planning a trip between Dec 10 and 27th and wondering if Christmas time means too many gringos, too few girls and very high rates. I would hate to visit casas if the girl numbers go down by 50% around these days.

Can someone please advise.I'll be in town Dec 17-24 so will find out. I've never been later (in December) than about the 17th. My guess is it will be good until about 12/22 or 12/23.

FWIW after Medellin, I'm heading to Cali until Jan 1 for la Feria. Cali is absolutely fantastic between Christmas and NYE. I would say it's the best week of the year to visit.

Surfer500
10-22-22, 21:29
I would love to know this as well. I am planning a trip between Dec 10 and 27th and wondering if Christmas time means too many gringos, too few girls and very high rates. I would hate to visit casas if the girl numbers go down by 50% around these days.

Can someone please advise.There will be less Gringos around during the time frame you mentioned, and up until Christmas, lots of girls will be trying to make as much money as they can so they can buy gifts and have money to celebrate with their families.

However, there will also be a huge uptick in crime, there's always more the few weeks leading up to Christmas, so you can never let your guard down.

If you haven't purchased your tickets yet you might want to consider returning on 25th, the airfare will be lower and things will be pretty much dead, albeit there will be some SW's out on Christmas Day in Centro. I was in Medellin last Christmas Day and was curious as to what was out there, and there were a few, but not anything I would get near with a ten foot pole. LOL.

Plan77
10-22-22, 21:35
The one Christmas I spent in Medellin I was able to find a girl on Christmas eve and visited a couple of casas on the day after Christmas and almost every day in the 5 days before Christmas. Fewer girls, but there were options.

However, I've got around 2,000 contacts, so I can always find someone, just can't always find the one I want.

The Christmas Eve girl gave me a couple of presents, BBFS and gonorrhea. Rang in the New Year with Santa driving the reindeer down my chimney every time I had to pee.

I'll be in Medellin for Christmas this year. Probably doing Christmas with the girlfriend's family, but will be taking a few days on my own.


I'll be in town Dec 17-24 so will find out. I've never been later (in December) than about the 17th. My guess is it will be good until about 12/22 or 12/23.

FWIW after Medellin, I'm heading to Cali until Jan 1 for la Feria. Cali is absolutely fantastic between Christmas and NYE. I would say it's the best week of the year to visit.Thanks for sharing the info.

Looks like it is still OK till just about Christmas eve but overall it is better to leave before Dec 20 or arrive after Jan 5/ YMMV of course.

Surfer500
10-22-22, 21:46
Global Entry only works at US airports. It will not do anything for you at MDE.Actually, there are airports in foreign Countries that have US Customs and Immigration officers that US Citizens go thru before boarding flights to the USA. Three countries that I have been thru that have this at some of their airports have included Canada, the UAE, and Aruba.

So having TSA pre-check and Global Entry will facilitate the process at a few airports outside of the USA, but in Colombia, and pretty much the rest of the world, it does nothing for you.

Knowledge
10-23-22, 04:48
It doesn't even get you TSA pre check but it still feels good to see it on the boarding pass.


Actually, there are airports in foreign Countries that have US Customs and Immigration officers that US Citizens go thru before boarding flights to the USA. Three countries that I have been thru that have this at some of their airports have included Canada, the UAE, and Aruba.

So having TSA pre-check and Global Entry will facilitate the process at a few airports outside of the USA, but in Colombia, and pretty much the rest of the world, it does nothing for you.

Nounce
10-23-22, 06:48
...The debate is funny to me.

Please define what is chemistry, it matters in what way, and what is great sex. Will chemistry make a dud to become great? Will chemistry make a woman to become great in giving BJ when she has no BJ skill otherwise?

I have many great sessions in SP with girls that I just met at Clinicas. I don't speak the language so I am sure there is zero chemistry or whatever. I have SB that I have great chemistry with but she was so low mileage so she did not have the skill and needed a lot of instructions. We had passionate sex but it was very vanilla. It is great because it is passionate but not physically so it depends on how you define it.

Today I was walking thru Centro to buy another pair of flipflop. This 19 yrs old girl came up to me. I did not plan to session and told her so. She said she was hungry so I took her to a restaurant of her choice. We had a good conversation during her lunch and she was showing me pictures on her phone, talking about her family and stuff. I left after paying for the food 20 mil. Does this count toward something? Honestly I don't know based on my experience. It helps but it does not really guarantee anything. This girl might think I was a fool.

You can explain your approach and see if MB will agree the experience that costs you 50 mil is the same experience that costs him 500 mil. It can be settled quickly this way.

Did you read the post Mr E replied to?

Often when I say a girl is good, my friend would agree with me most of the time. My friend has very different approach so the only constant is the girl. This is one of them. I had no chemistry with her to begin with. I contacted her on FB around 7 and she arrive at my place at 8:30. The BBFS sex was great. I repeated with her 1 day later. One reason it is great for me because she was very sensitive and she had orgasm quickly and made a lot of sound. LOL BTW, she has a day job too so she can potentially pass the non pro, low mileage test.

Nounce
10-23-22, 07:15
... Just don't ruin it and pay them more than 70 ML pesos please.That is why I told others here that I paid 70 mil when they were paying more. I did not realize early can be good.

Balboa
10-23-22, 07:19
Please define what is chemistry, it matters in what way, and what is great sex. Will chemistry make a dud to become great? Will chemistry make a woman to become great in giving BJ when she has no BJ skill otherwise?

I have many great sessions in SP with girls that I just met at Clinicas. I don't speak the language so I am sure there is zero chemistry or whatever. I have SB that I have great chemistry with but she was so low mileage so she did not have the skill and needed a lot of instructions. We had passionate sex but it was very vanilla. It is great because it is passionate but not physically so it depends on how you define it.
You're way more analytical than I am.

Probably more intelligent as well, tho I do speak both languages very well (esp, port).

Chemistry is chemistry, Lol. I'm a go with the flow guy. I don't plan out and define every detail, prearrange kisses, etc.

By the time we hit the room for fun, I already know.

Very rarely do I order online (escorts, FB).

No wrong way, that's just my way.

Enjoy.

JustTK
10-23-22, 14:03
Today I was walking thru Centro to buy another pair of flipflop. ...

Another flipflop user. People like us need to stick together. In case we get identified on the streets as easy targets. We need to make flip flops the new fashion accessory of 2023.

You can tell you got a highly educated LMG when she spells love as Amoe.

PoonyD
10-23-22, 14:08
I don't speak spanish. Though I know some words and sentences in Spanish, I cannot talk in spanish. I almost always have to use translate app.

I had session with 11 girls in 12 days. All oral and sex was with condom. Some or all girls might have done atleast BJ without condom for more money. No one allowed DFK, about 2 allowed namesake lip to lip kiss for 1 or 2 seconds, half of them are fine with kissing on their face, forehead, neck. Even though 1 hour sessions sounds good value for money, I found most girls lose interest after 30 minutes. So I stick with 30 minutes unless the girl was still going good then I extend more.

I used WorldTraveller69's Medellin list and map. I am sharing here mostly the info that would be useful to update the list and map.

For all the places below, the info before ' is what I gathered from the list and map, the info after ' is my contribution, hopefully to update the list and map database.

I took photos for some of the places, please let me know if you / WorldTraveler69 needs it.

El Chagualo. West of the Hospital Metro.

2. La Casa de Doa Fanny. Corner of Cl61#53-08: At 4 pm Sat, 6 chicas, rating 5/10. Not much English friendly, didn't ask price since I am not doing anyway.

3. Calle 61 # 53-16 ?piso 2.7 pm: At 4 pm Sat, closed as expected.

4. OVO Wiskerya, Cl61#53-40 next to #42.7 pm to: At 4 pm Sat, door was open to take a sneak peak, but business was not yet open as expected.

5. Name? CL 61 # 53-66, piso 2. 7 pm to: At 4 pm Sat, it was open. About 8 chicas, rating 5/10. The setting was more like restaurant bar than casa.

6. Sala de Masajes Doa Esneda, Cl61 (Moore)#53-78, piso 2: Seems no more, on ringing the bell, an 8 year old boy answered from piso 2, in Spanish.

Prado. East of the Prado Metro Station.

1. * Casa de Piedra, or Lindas Chicas, Cl58 (Av. Oriental)#50 a-54, Brown Stone Wall with White Metal Gate: At 4:30 pm Sat, it was closed (locked inside), no indication of it is occupied.

2. Barcelona. Sala de Massajes, Cl59 (Cuba)#50-12: The notice outside in spanish seems to say they moved to Cl59#49-22, but the girl at Cl59#49-22 told no chica.

3. Hotel Balcones de Cuba, Cl59#46-44, Room 301: Not there in map. Also, couldn't find. The female receptionist on piso 2 on the SW corner of Cl59&Cr47 told no massajo.

4. Traviesas Sexi, Calle 58 #45 d-104: Man inside told no chica / massajo.

5. Casa Cuba, Cr48#58-64? Maybe 68: #64 is a shop, #68 - no chica. Either no one opened or the lady inside told no chica.

Los Angeles. East of Carrera 46 (Av. J. E. Gaitan / Av. Oriental).

1. Pamela (ex Paisa Relax) Sala de Masajes, Cr45 (El Palo)#57-71, piso 2: Found but closed.

2. Dulce Compania, Cr45 (El Palo)#57-55:6 chicas at 6 pm wed, was told more chicas at sat noon. On Sat 2:45 pm, 6 chicas, about 6/10 rating. Didn't do session.

3. Club de Amigas Sexy. Sala de Masajes, Cr45 d #57-67: Notice says 3 k cover, was not charged, maybe for the entry to the small bar. 5 chicas on wed 6 pm. On Sat 3 pm, 8 chicas, rating 6-7/10.55 k /30 min 70 k /45 min 85 k /60 min. The girl showered on a nice request. Shower water is cold.

4. *Aiffe. Sala de Masajes, Cl57 (Argentina)#43-27: Wed 5 pm 3-4 chicas, my shower optional she won't. Mon 5 pm, 6 chicas. The girl was bit friendly and showered as I asked. Sun 4 pm, 4 chicas. 50 k /30 min 85 k / HR. Open till 5 or 6 pm on Sunday. In their logbook, almost every one did session for 50 k.

5. *New Life. Sala de Masajes, Cl56 (Bolivia)#43-39, piso 2: 3 k viewing fee, price increased from Aug1 5 k /15 min. So 60 k /30 min 80 k /45 100 k /60.1st time wed 4 pm: about 5-8 chicas. The girl I had insisted I shower, but she won't. 2nd time Tues. 4 pm: 10 chicas, she showered as I nicely asked to shower for 1 minute. 3rd time Sun 4 pm: shown 10 chicas and 5 more might have been occupied. She showered as I requested. She asked for tip at end, but I didn't encourage tip. She told no English, but for this, she spoke good English for this: 'tip. Tip for me'.

6. Cl54 #42-13 Turcos paradise: closed / couldn't find.

7. Cr43 #55-xx. : closed / couldn't find.

8. Cr43 #55-49. Divine women: No more, new resident. Please remove from map.

9. Cr45 #55-45. Akami. : No more, new family resident. Please remove from map.

La Candelaria. East of and between the Prado Metro and Parque Berrio Stations and West of Cr 46.

(Av. J. E. Gaitan / Av. Oriental).

1. Closed or Moved-Casa de Fantasias, Cl57 (La Paz) #50-19: Lady on piso 3 told no chica.

2. Masajes Zanday, Cr47#57 a-34, piso 2. Sun 10 am-4 pm: 7 chicas at Fri 6:30 pm, 80 k / HR, she showered. Closed at Sun 3 pm.

3. Safari. Sala de Masajes), Cr 46 #57 a-21, piso 3. 6+. 35 k /30 min 55 k / HR. 304-569-92-41,231 09 88, cell 310 837 71 39. Mon-Sat 10 am-7 pm. : No one opened Mon 5 pm.

4. Locuras? (ex-Odisea), Cl57 a#46-10 (Barbacoa and Oriental), piso 2 or 3: Girl opened door on piso2, rooms with bed on piso3, few smoking, but told no chica.

5. Paris Club, Cr47 (Sucre) #56-34: Guy inside told no chica, but saw a chica on stairs in lingerie, also selling / displayed lingerie.

6. Chicas Punto Com, Cl54 (Caracas)#49-97, piso 2, Inside Centro Comercial Boulevard de Caracas, across from El Cid: Armona Spa, 321 755 51 20. Sat 5 pm, couldn't find 97, but this was the only one on 97 piso2 across EL Cid. 10 chicas. 6/10 rating. The girl I had had attitude, showered reluctantly only after arguing. Only 1 shot and she told no more touching, shower water cold. 55 k /30 min, 75/30. In the chica logbook, it was mentioned 40, so I assume 40 goes to girl and 15 to the establishment.

7. Yakusa. Sala de Masajes (Next to Hotel Deseos), Cr50 a#53-38 (Av. Maracaibo): On Sat 5 pm, 3 chicas, 5/10 rating.

8. Zaza, Cr47 (Sucre)#53-42: Thu 3 pm Didn't like any of 5 chicas. Info on the visiting card: Latinas Sexi, Cell 311 484 87 90, servicios 50 why 70, PROMOCION 80 MIL.

CENTRO.

Taberna Montijos, Diagonal 50 (Transversal 49) #50-25? #50-15: not in map.

Bombona. East of Avenida Oriental.

1. Natalia, Cl49 (Av. Ayacucho)#43-68:60 k /30 min 90 k / HR? 70 k /45 min. Thu 1 pm. 5 chicas. Owner spoke ok english. She showered. Sun 5 pm door was closed (not sure if it is locked) and there was a bicycle blocking the door. So, I assumed it is closed.

2. Cl48 #43-63. Motel mementos plaza. : Couldn't find.

ESTADIO / La 70 - W. Of Rio Medellin, Estadadio metro.

1. Acuabella Sala de Masajes, Cl50 (Colombia) #78 a-11.3. 40 k /30 min Massage and HJ, 70 k same but she takes her clothes off, 100 k / HR FS. Tel: Hours: The entire street (Cl50#78 a-1 to end) is a big wall.

2. Oriental Spa, Cl49 b#77 a-28 (a 1 cuadra de la 4 ta brigada). Prices: _ (57) 315 787 1294.11 am-9 pm, Sun 10 am-6 pm. https://www.orientalspa.co/: At 5 pm Thu, lady opened the door and asked me to come at 6 pm or next day. 100 k /60.

3. Los Angeles de Charlei, Cl51#74-53? Prices? +57 313 525 62 66.24 hrs.

Scort-masajes-why-erotismo-en-medellin-24-horas. Negocio: site not in map, and it is a big apartment complex with parking lot, pedestrian+car gate closed with security in front. We need to know the apartment number, then we need to clear the security gate.

4. Energy. Sala de Masajes, Cr74#49-101, near Cl50 (Colombia) right next to the Stadium. 15-20.135 k+/30 min 145 k /40 min 160 k+/ HR. (See website for prices). 436 11 31,416 83 32, out of country (574) 230 66 08.9 am-9:30 pm, ?xSu. http://fantasiasenergy.com/index.html. Their fb page says https://chicasenergy.com/, 130 k /30 160 k /60 min. About 8 chicas at 3 pm Thu, most of them 6-7/10 rating. I paid 160 k for 1 hour and was told no more after 1 shot at 30 minutes. I said I paid for 1 hour, and the girl told me I can stay in the room for 1 hour. Without her LOL. When I told the management, the 2 ladies didn't care and told me to call policia. It's a rip off - 160 k for 1 shot 30 minutes.

El Velodromo. West of Rio Medellin.

1. Tantra Medellin "Donde mi Rey", Cr80#44 b-139.7-8. 80 k /30 min, 100 k /45 min, 130 k / HR FS. 412 7059, Cell: 314 8403 745, Cell: 301 365 18 69.10 am-10 pm.

http://www.tantramedellin.com/ https://www.facebook.com/tantramedellin.

https://www.instagram.com/tantramedellindondemirey/?hl=en 3 chicas about 6/10 rating at 5:30 pm Thu. 120 k /45 min 150 k /60 min, no 30 minute. It's expensive, so didn't proceed.

BOLIVARIANA.

3. Name? Next door to BMW Autos (10-26-2021).

Cr68 A#43-13, Piso?. 4-5.70 k /30 min 100 k / HR. Tel? Hours? Not in list.

CONQUISTADORES. West of the Rio Medellin, behind Cerro Nutibara.

1. Luna Lunera 33, Av. 33#63 b-219.10-15. Cover 50 k (or 15 k, 2 drink minimum), Beers 15 k, Drinks 50 k, 110 k /30 min, 100 k exit fee. PBX (574) 235 4700, Cell: 3206646061, 310 835 7020.24/7. https://www.facebook.com/LUNA-Lunera-33-435027583252262/.

http://lunalunera.com.co/start/: 210 k /45 min. 310 k for 2 girls for 1 HR.

2. Samsara Club, Av. 33#65-09.6-10. Beers 3 k, 50 k /30 min 60 k / HR. (57) (4)2657123, Cell: 31463828 93.10 am-10 pm, Fri-Sun 10 am-6 am. : Guy sitting outside told no / casa. I felt he knew I am there for chica. So, I left assuming it's not a chica place.

3. LOS Angeles, Cl33#65 c-10, Int 201, near the Carbonsito Disco. 5-7. 75 k /45 min 100 k / HR, prices go.

Up at night. 351 50 29.24/7 with appointments, or Thu-Sat 8 pm-6 am: 2 xbell (rang twice or there were 2 bells), no body seems to be there. No 'Carbonsito' nearby, only tea shop.

4. Kassandra. Sala de Masajes, Av. 33#66 b-107? Masajistas. Prices? (57) (4) 426 5122. Cell: (57) 312 890 9020.24/7: A black guy told 'no masaje.'

5. Sala de Masajes Eroticos, Cr66 b#33-07, interior 202. ? Chicas. Prices?. +57 300 235 0414. Mon-Sat 10:30 am-8 pm Sunday / Festivals 12 noon-6 pm.

https://www.eroticosenlaciudad.com/clasificados-eroticos/colombia/es/salasde-masajes/medellin/spa-para-caballeros.php: rang 202, no one there.

6. Eros Spa. Cr81 a#34 a-15 Apt 301.4-7. 70-100 k / HR. Tel: Call First, WhatsApp: 322-202-5690.24/7. Apartment complex with security. I felt the security knows what is going on. Took elevator to 3rd floor. Door 301 opened after like 2 minutes after ringing the bell few times. I was not allowed to enter 301, but a girl immediately took me to the 4th floor apt upstairs. 12 chicas at 6:30 pm Thu. 70 k /60 min, no 30 minute option.

7. Hostal Malevaje (Bar), Av. 33#76-85, piso 2.3+. 45 k bottle, Chicas 80 k. 250 35 32. Hours?: No bell & no body opened on small knock. Forgot my exact time, must be around 5 pm.

8. Casa Blue Room, Av. 33#78-63.4-5. No Cover. 110-150 k / HR. 250 03 63,416 83 32,436 11 31. Mon-Sat 11 am-9:30 pm. https://www.facebook.com/Blue-Room-Medellin-351315181631001/.

https://casablueroom.com/: guy on 2nd floor window told no message.

9. Dharma Massage, Cr80 b#32 ee 41.7+. 120 k / HR. 504 64 06,310 370 96 33.24/7: Not chica place, there was a guy working at front desk. Looked like a carpenting work office.

Av80#42-84 piso 2: there in map, not in list. Couldn't find. The Av80#42 ends at like 65 or so, then #43 starts.

Cr78#32 ee-25. Breakfast 8 am+: it is 2 buildings. Found only 1 chica, looked more like a civilian eating there instead of a working girl.

In centro, at Cr50#55-14. This place was not here in ISG. 4 girls, looks trans. Didn't try. 100 k.

Tr39 a-70 a-28: some European / English guy opened the door after few small knock. He told it's an apt. I saw 10-12 people sitting around a table in sofas. Saw 1-2 girls looked European. So, it concluded it's not a chica place.

Cl32#65-40: Not in the list (?but in the map). Rang, an old lady answered from 3rd floor balcony in Spanish. I had eye contact with her but I think I didn't ask anything (chica / massage). Since she didn't open the door, I assumed it is not a chica place.I hope you shared this on the map thread. Very much needed and very much appreciated.

Plan77
10-23-22, 14:15
There will be less Gringos around during the time frame you mentioned, and up until Christmas, lots of girls will be trying to make as much money as they can so they can buy gifts and have money to celebrate with their families.

However, there will also be a huge uptick in crime, there's always more the few weeks leading up to Christmas, so you can never let your guard down.

If you haven't purchased your tickets yet you might want to consider returning on 25th, the airfare will be lower and things will be pretty much dead, albeit there will be some SW's out on Christmas Day in Centro. I was in Medellin last Christmas Day and was curious as to what was out there, and there were a few, but not anything I would get near with a ten foot pole. LOL.I had read about girls trying to make as much money as they can before Christmas but your point about higher crime certainly makes sense and has not been mentioned elsewhere. Thanks for pointing it out.

Maelstrom
10-23-22, 16:27
Did you declare the coffee? I love that Juan Valdez and brought back three 1 lb bags last time. I was so tired I forgot to declare it and did not get searched. I have global entry. Is it OK to bring back coffee, just not too much?I came from Sp Brazil, then Medellin Colombia to Florida customs. Brought back about 5 bags all beans (never bring ground) I declared and the guy waved me through at Global entry lane. Didn't even bother open anything.

Maelstrom
10-23-22, 16:31
Global Entry only works at US airports. It will not do anything for you at MDE.Yes I know what it is.

I've had it for 7+ years travelled 10 countries no issues.

Lucky Nuts
10-23-22, 17:12
As to why I was chosen for secondary screening, even with having Global Entry is a mystery to me, perhaps it was totally random, or perhaps for some other reason.

Regardless, don't have any bags of coffee with you greater than 350 grams in case you get tagged for SSSS, I had like 5 bags of coffee, and they were checking them out very carefully!I'm sure it's just a random selection like every 17th passenger or something of the sort. I got the SSSS a couple years ago too and also have GE. Same happens with our TSE pre. Every now and then we get randomly selected and it's removed for a flight.

But Surfer I've got to ask. What coffee is so great that you are bringing so much back to the states with you? I'm the opposite and bring my favorite coffee grounds with me wherever I'm flying in the world including Medellin. I also travel with my own coffee makers one is 110 v and the other 220 v. Yes my morning coffee is very important to me LOL.

Lucky Nuts
10-23-22, 17:26
What's the rate to take them to your hotel (I was at Nutibara). I asked several girls and got a variety of answers.I've never asked a chica from there if she would leave with me back to my hotel. I've collected lots of phone numbers from these chicas but never had the urge to invite one to my hotel on a different day since I can go fuck them for 70 mil pesos at the bar. When I've asked for phone numbers I told them I pay 200 mil for a couple hours at my apartment in Poblado. I'm curious what is the range of prices the chicas have given you? Considering you're staying at the Nutibara I'd think they'd be very happy with half that amount.

Lucky Nuts
10-23-22, 17:49
You should try at a weekend, you won't get a seat. Usually there are only 1 or 2 groups of foriegners, the rest are all locals. So I doubt foreigners will affect the price at all.Yeah I quit going on Saturdays because it's stupid busy in there. If I recall correctly Fridays are not terribly bad for my shift of 5 to 8 PM. But my memory isn't perfect and it's more of a weekday place for me anyhow.

I've brought gringos in there that ended up paying 90 and 100 mil because they were so green and had to use their phone translators. The chicas knew they could upcharge them. Just want new guys to not fall for that or they might start to think gringos should be paying more than locals. And I don't know you think the locals pay 70 mil or less? I've asked the chicas and they tell me 70 mil.

Knowledge
10-23-22, 18:16
50 K should do it.


I've never asked a chica from there if she would leave with me back to my hotel. I've collected lots of phone numbers from these chicas but never had the urge to invite one to my hotel on a different day since I can go fuck them for 70 mil pesos at the bar. When I've asked for phone numbers I told them I pay 200 mil for a couple hours at my apartment in Poblado. I'm curious what is the range of prices the chicas have given you? Considering you're staying at the Nutibara I'd think they'd be very happy with half that amount.

Knowledge
10-23-22, 18:18
A one pound bag is over the limit.


I'm sure it's just a random selection like every 17th passenger or something of the sort. I got the SSSS a couple years ago too and also have GE. Same happens with our TSE pre. Every now and then we get randomly selected and it's removed for a flight.

But Surfer I've got to ask. What coffee is so great that you are bringing so much back to the states with you? I'm the opposite and bring my favorite coffee grounds with me wherever I'm flying in the world including Medellin. I also travel with my own coffee makers one is 110 v and the other 220 v. Yes my morning coffee is very important to me LOL.

Knowledge
10-23-22, 18:20
The limit is on the Colombia end. I had no idea it existed until I had my coffee confiscated.


I came from Sp Brazil, then Medellin Colombia to Florida customs. Brought back about 5 bags all beans (never bring ground) I declared and the guy waved me through at Global entry lane. Didn't even bother open anything.

SouthernOcean
10-23-22, 19:07
I have viagra but would like to try cialis because of the time frame hunting pussy. Suggestions for a pharmacy close to parque lleras that I can use.

Also do you recommend using Rappi for such things as well as groceries.

On the string of is sex better by making a connection. Sure it is but I find showing respect, smiling, commenting on their good looks goes a long way. I am basically there for just sex but it does not have to be impersonal.

Lucky Nuts
10-23-22, 19:36
I have viagra but would like to try cialis because of the time frame hunting pussy. Suggestions for a pharmacy close to parque lleras that I can use.

Also do you recommend using Rappi for such things as well as groceries.

On the string of is sex better by making a connection. Sure it is but I find showing respect, smiling, commenting on their good looks goes a long way. I am basically there for just sex but it does not have to be impersonal.Every pharmacy around Lleras has both Cialis and the generic Tadalafilo. It's crazy to pay extra for the brand imo. The generic works perfectly well if you buy from a pharmacy. Most pharmacies have both 5 mg and 20 mg pill of Tadafilo. After a week or so that shit gives me leg cramps for some reason so I use generic Viagra, aka sildenafila. I like the brand Erassin which I think is made in Bogota.

I don't understand the Rappi thing but I'm old school. I like to get out and walk to get my stuff.

MaxKane
10-23-22, 19:46
I have viagra but would like to try cialis because of the time frame hunting pussy. Suggestions for a pharmacy close to parque lleras that I can use.

Also do you recommend using Rappi for such things as well as groceries.

As mentioned every pharmacy will stock it and the generics (Tadalafilo) which are a fraction of the price. But why bother going to a pharmacy, you can get it delivered by Rappi.

I haven't tried getting groceries from Rappi yet, but I shouldn't imagine it'd be any different. Personally I wouldn't trust some random to pick fresh food for me (I'll walk to a shop for that), but for packaged stuff I don't see why not.

Mtndew704
10-23-22, 20:00
I've never asked a chica from there if she would leave with me back to my hotel. I've collected lots of phone numbers from these chicas but never had the urge to invite one to my hotel on a different day since I can go fuck them for 70 mil pesos at the bar. When I've asked for phone numbers I told them I pay 200 mil for a couple hours at my apartment in Poblado. I'm curious what is the range of prices the chicas have given you? Considering you're staying at the Nutibara I'd think they'd be very happy with half that amount.To take them to my hotel while they are still working? Anywhere from 30-80 k on top of the normal 70k, they always walked off and asked the dudes at the bar and then came back with the answer. I just grabbed their numbers and hit them up when they weren't working.

This was also different times of the night and a combination of weekend/weekdays so maybe that factors in too.

JustTK
10-23-22, 21:06
And I don't know you think the locals pay 70 mil or less?One chica charged me 60. Others have tried it on a little. I know the bar staff will let them get away w charging more if they can. But hell, its all pesnuts really.

There is one girl that seems to only work weekends. I have been keen to FK her for a while because she looks a resl dirty bltch. But I guess she must be because she is always busy. Hehe. Sexy figure, always wears big white boots.

But generally the girls seem to enjoy sex from there. Many visited me at nuti before or after their shift. I pay them same as in the bar. And a bit more if they stay a while. Some nice girls w personslities there.

Mtndew704
10-23-22, 21:28
One chica charged me 60. Others have tried it on a little. I know the bar staff will let them get away w charging more if they can. But hell, its all pesnuts really.

There is one girl that seems to only work weekends. I have been keen to FK her for a while because she looks a resl dirty bltch. But I guess she must be because she is always busy. Hehe. Sexy figure, always wears big white boots.

But generally the girls seem to enjoy sex from there. Many visited me at nuti before or after their shift. I pay them same as in the bar. And a bit more if they stay a while. Some nice girls w personslities there.Is she a vennie? If its who I think it is, she's back in Venezuela right now.

I find the girls to be cool and down to earth, complete opposite of Fase II and La Isle. Plus its a fraction of the cost and your still getting to fuck a beautiful woman.

Lucky Nuts
10-23-22, 22:11
But generally the girls seem to enjoy sex from there. Many visited me at nuti before or after their shift. I pay them same as in the bar. And a bit more if they stay a while. Some nice girls w personslities there.Yeah man! If their toes are curling they are enjoying getting fucked by you. If their toes are relaxed they are bored and just laying there for you.

Agree on the personalities and that's why I like this place so much. They seem such down to earth regular girls just trying to make ends meet. I love talking to them and hearing their stories.

JustTK
10-23-22, 22:31
They seem such down to earth regular girls just trying to make ends meet.Exactly. Not the 'dregs of scoiety' that others seem to think. Just regular girls doing the best they can, and having fun w it.

JustTK
10-23-22, 22:33
Is she a vennie? If its who I think it is, she's back in Venezuela right now.Which one you asking about? I mentioned 2. The one that charged 60 is a Col from Ibague. The one that looks 'dirty' - I have never spoken to her because she is always busy w Col guys. Qute shapely, quite languid, reddish or brown hair. Big white boots.

PigSavinBoy
10-23-22, 22:49
Grill Nueva Avenida.

60-70 mil is right. Stone-throw away from Hotel Nutibara so that's convenient. Horrible rooms as reported. In some of them they installed annoying green light, can't see shit. They might've at least gone with the red one for more 'romantic' vibe.

In general a fun place especially Friday / Saturdays. Mostly attended by locals, many seem to be a pop-ins from the streets with backpacks and not the night-out crowd, but I'm usually gone before 10 (metro). Line-ups are pretty good, there are some stunners to fish out but depends on the day and, as in most of the strip clubs, one has to be mindful of how the dark and red light changes the perception. Not to mention the alcohol, which can iron the wrinkles, stretch marks and reduce the age and weight significantly. It can all still be fun regardless, but one can be for quite a bucket of cold water in the face when seeing the same chicas in the daylight. BTW it works both ways so there are advantages to bad lighting and alcohol.

Couple chicas on the heavy side too. If she ain't dancing better be careful as there is usually a good reason for it. Eg a boob job with horrible scars. There are some chicas that look like they just came from standing in Centro (not that it's a negative) and in fact one time on my way there I passed a SW working at Berrio station which later came to work in the club. Some of them seem to work mostly as greeters. There is one very slim but nice shaped and tall (for Colombian standards) morena with curly hair that often just walks back and forth. No sure exactly what she's doing, never seen her dancing but I enjoy watching her petite ass pass me by.

In centro strip clubs it would be my second choice after Barra Ejecutiva in terms of line-ups. First in terms of price-lineup ratio. Chicas are a little less dolled-up there but more personable as mentioned and down to earth, showing pets and family photos etc. Most of them seem friendly with each other.

Never had any issues with drinks or staff's service, friendly and attentive. Once in the room with a girl got to keep your usual safety protocol, I had an issue only once, with a girl trying to investigate contents of my wallet.

I visit from time to time but more for chilling not seasoning, just seeing the same faces over and over can't beat the novelty of SWs and other venues for me, plus it can get somewhat awkward wanting to go with a new chica while still maintaining a friendly relations with the previous ones.

RudeBwoy100
10-23-22, 22:53
https://angeles-spa-2.ola.click/products Anybody went here before and if so is it an GFE establishment? It's located in the Laureles area, they advertise all over photoprepagos and milerotica and seems to have really nice looking girls that provide GFE with a menu for everything on hand and is definitely something that was missing from the last time I visited.

Mtndew704
10-23-22, 23:00
Which one you asking about? I mentioned 2. The one that charged 60 is a Col from Ibague. The one that looks 'dirty' - I have never spoken to her because she is always busy w Col guys. Qute shapely, quite languid, reddish or brown hair. Big white boots.The girl with the big white boots, I was off and must be thinking of someone else. My bad LOL.


Yeah man! If their toes are curling they are enjoying getting fucked by you. If their toes are relaxed they are bored and just laying there for you.

Agree on the personalities and that's why I like this place so much. They seem such down to earth regular girls just trying to make ends meet. I love talking to them and hearing their stories.Yeah cheap drinks, cheap fucks, and 1 night on my last trip some local's novia started stripping on stage and making out with the girl, was a hell of a show. They also will put the local soccer games on the tv if you ask.

JustTK
10-23-22, 23:26
https://angeles-spa-2.ola.click/products Anybody went here before and if so is it an GFE establishment? I am curious to know how a spa can provide GFE? What are you expecting in one hour. You going to argue and throw plates at each other? Is she going to scroll through your telephone messages and ask you whio those other girls are? I mean, really?! GFE?

Surfer500
10-24-22, 00:32
But Surfer I've got to ask. What coffee is so great that you are bringing so much back to the states with you? I'm the opposite and bring my favorite coffee grounds with me wherever I'm flying in the world including Medellin. I also travel with my own coffee makers one is 110 v and the other 220 v. Yes my morning coffee is very important to me LOL.All but one of the bags of coffee I brought back were gifts.

I personally don't like most Colombian coffee because it's not strong enough for me, and I actually bring coffee from the States down with me to Colombia as odd as that may sound.

However I have found one coffee that I like in Colombia called Matiz # 9 and is very strong, and similar to Starbucks Verona Blend which you might like.

As far as coffee makers, I bring those with me as well depending on which Country I'm headed to. Especially necessary in Asia.

We seem to have something in common, but I bet when it comes to women, were probably polar opposites. LOL.

Knowledge
10-24-22, 00:32
I think it means the girls engage in kissing and conversation and pretend to be interested in what you say.


I am curious to know how a spa can provide GFE? What are you expecting in one hour. You going to argue and throw plates at each other? Is she going to scroll through your telephone messages and ask you whio those other girls are? I mean, really?! GFE?

Surfer500
10-24-22, 00:42
A one pound bag is over the limit.I saw a sign that said 350 grams, which is less than a pound was the allowable limit, and the one bag I had that was 450 grams was confiscated, yet the other bags which were under 350 grams and collectively weighed more than a couple of pounds were not.

So is there a reason why there's a 350 gram limit per bag?

Ottotot
10-24-22, 01:24
Noob question, can you bring girls to your room at Nutibara without have to pay extra? Going to Medellin for the first time and will stay at Nutibara.

Many thanks!


I've never asked a chica from there if she would leave with me back to my hotel. I've collected lots of phone numbers from these chicas but never had the urge to invite one to my hotel on a different day since I can go fuck them for 70 mil pesos at the bar. When I've asked for phone numbers I told them I pay 200 mil for a couple hours at my apartment in Poblado. I'm curious what is the range of prices the chicas have given you? Considering you're staying at the Nutibara I'd think they'd be very happy with half that amount.

Steve 9696
10-24-22, 01:32
I am curious to know how a spa can provide GFE? What are you expecting in one hour. You going to argue and throw plates at each other? Is she going to scroll through your telephone messages and ask you whio those other girls are? I mean, really?! GFE?Haha yep that's the real GFE. But def widely accepted standard is provides BBBJ and DFK. Of course a real girlfriend feels a lot more real than those basic services. But then you also get the drama. I find Sugar Baby with the right girl to be true good GFE because she's like a real girlfriend but knows not to cross the line or the money stops. So you really can get only the good part of GFE.

Knowledge
10-24-22, 03:24
To me it makes no sense on any level. I chalk it up to the same sort of pretzel logic that had airport employees handing out masks to incoming international passengers on the jet bridge. I hear that is no longer happening. This is how crazy that 350 gram rule is. There are three or four stores that sell 450 gram bags of coffee in the boarding area. You know how Colombians can be with regulations. There isn't always a thread of logic.


I saw a sign that said 350 grams, which is less than a pound was the allowable limit, and the one bag I had that was 450 grams was confiscated, yet the other bags which were under 350 grams and collectively weighed more than a couple of pounds were not.

So is there a reason why there's a 350 gram limit per bag?

Knowledge
10-24-22, 03:27
That French roast style of coffee is sold at D1.


All but one of the bags of coffee I brought back were gifts.

I personally don't like most Colombian coffee because it's not strong enough for me, and I actually bring coffee from the States down with me to Colombia as odd as that may sound.

However I have found one coffee that I like in Colombia called Matiz # 9 and is very strong, and similar to Starbucks Verona Blend which you might like.

As far as coffee makers, I bring those with me as well depending on which Country I'm headed to. Especially necessary in Asia.

We seem to have something in common, but I bet when it comes to women, were probably polar opposites. LOL.

Nounce
10-24-22, 04:00
...By the time we hit the room for fun, I already know.

Very rarely do I order online (escorts, FB).....I am not that smooth, and I said that because I have seen other mongers that are very smooth, and you probably are one of them. It is easier for me to be straight to the point and that helps me avoid problems after. Twice I had to end the session in the clinica and asked the girl to get another girl to the room, seeing that I was naked, the new girl always wanted 100 are for BBBJ. The last time I had a 4 hands, same thing.

I prefer seeing girls in person too. I work and sometimes it is easier to just order online.

JustTK
10-24-22, 12:38
Haha yep that's the real GFE. But def widely accepted standard is provides BBBJ and DFKIn the world of p4 p, I always associated GFE as the opportunity to spend a few days / weeks w each other, like as a short term GF. Kissing a girl in a cita, call me strange but I always called that kissing.

Mtndew704
10-24-22, 16:51
Noob question, can you bring girls to your room at Nutibara without have to pay extra? Going to Medellin for the first time and will stay at Nutibara.

Many thanks!No guest fee at the Nutibara, make sure the girl has ID though.

Nil Admirari
10-24-22, 18:08
I am curious to know how a spa can provide GFE? What are you expecting in one hour. You going to argue and throw plates at each other? Is she going to scroll through your telephone messages and ask you whio those other girls are? I mean, really?! GFE?


Haha yep that's the real GFE. But def widely accepted standard is provides BBBJ and DFK. .Agreed, Steve has it right: GFE in respect to sex at a casa or strip club is just shorthand for BBBJ and DFK--with the possible addition of their being delivered with some skill, enthusiasm, and personable interaction. And, with luck, a bit of flirtatious, good-humored banter for a few minutes before and after entering the room, some apparent (even if just convincingly faked) enjoyment of the sex (vocalized pleasure, readily moistening up during foreplay and / or DATY, an apparent orgasm or two), some expert twerking in doggie and CG.

On reflection "PSE" might be more apropos than GFE for what I look for, and, as often as not, do obtain, in a casa or strip joint--or perhaps call it PSE* with an asterisk or PSE-lite (annal or BBFS unlikely). I say that as someone who's a highly selective geezer (one session at most every day or two) and can make a full circuit of the Centro casas without finding a chica with the hot enough looks and right vibe to get me into a room with her. And one who always gets agreement to the GFE/BBBJ extras in advance--rather than going with the flow as many other mongers prefer.

Ken Allen
10-24-22, 19:26
Noob question, can you bring girls to your room at Nutibara without have to pay extra? Going to Medellin for the first time and will stay at Nutibara.

Many thanks!Can someone explain the currency?

When I see 70 mil how does that translate to USD.

I've seen Colombian pesos to USD online.

MiamiSammy
10-24-22, 20:26
To me it makes no sense on any level. I chalk it up to the same sort of pretzel logic that had airport employees handing out masks to incoming international passengers on the jet bridge. I hear that is no longer happening. This is how crazy that 350 gram rule is. There are three or four stores that sell 450 gram bags of coffee in the boarding area. You know how Colombians can be with regulations. There isn't always a thread of logic.What difference does it make? Everyone has their quotas on duty-free items. They obviously want you to buy the commercial products that also have export duties on them. There's no shortage of good coffee outside the US. If you want more than 350 g, ship it to yourself.

MiamiSammy
10-24-22, 20:28
Agreed, Steve has it right: GFE in respect to sex at a casa or strip club is just shorthand for BBBJ and DFK--with the possible addition of their being delivered with some skill, enthusiasm, and personable interaction. And, with luck, a bit of flirtatious, good-humored banter for a few minutes before and after entering the room, some apparent (even if just convincingly faked) enjoyment of the sex (vocalized pleasure, readily moistening up during foreplay and / or DATY, an apparent orgasm or two), some expert twerking in doggie and CG.

On reflection "PSE" might be more apropos than GFE for what I look for, and, as often as not, do obtain, in a casa or strip joint--or perhaps call it PSE* with an asterisk or PSE-lite (annal or BBFS unlikely). I say that as someone who's a highly selective geezer (one session at most every day or two) and can make a full circuit of the Centro casas without finding a chica with the hot enough looks and right vibe to get me into a room with her. And one who always gets agreement to the GFE/BBBJ extras in advance--rather than going with the flow as many other mongers prefer.GFE is subjective. There's a difference when I stop by the GF's house for a quickie and when I pick up an SW. Ideally a girl at a club or spa will give you her undivided attention and not just fuck 'and fly. Of course, any illusion of GFE is shattered on payment.

Hunglow1625
10-24-22, 22:10
I've been staying there going back to 2006. I also do Airbnb.

I just messaged what I thought was Alexa, to see about availability next month.

The reply I got was from Geraldine?

I'm wondering if that's the same geraldine AKA Demi Moore from back in the day, that's now possibly working at M1 in the Office??

Anyone on here that's been to M1 lately, who has been going there for years might know the answer!

I'm guessing Alexa is no longer there. What a shame because she was such a sweetheart.

Quite a bit of availability at M1 for next month,kinda surprising Hmmmm.

Knowledge
10-24-22, 22:48
I don't live in the USA It makes no difference to me. It was a minor one time inconvenience. The 350 gram limit is a Spirit Airlines rule. That explains why you can buy as much coffee as you like right in front of the boarding gates and bring it onto the plane. It also explains why it doesn't get confiscated at the x-ray machines in the primary security area. Since Surfer reminded me of it happening to me I remember the Spirit gate agent told me it is their rule and it applies to any packaged goods, coffee or whatever else.


What difference does it make? Everyone has their quotas on duty-free items. They obviously want you to buy the commercial products that also have export duties on them. There's no shortage of good coffee outside the US. If you want more than 350 g, ship it to yourself.

Zeos1
10-24-22, 23:19
To me it makes no sense on any level. I chalk it up to the same sort of pretzel logic that had airport employees handing out masks to incoming international passengers on the jet bridge. I hear that is no longer happening. This is how crazy that 350 gram rule is. There are three or four stores that sell 450 gram bags of coffee in the boarding area. You know how Colombians can be with regulations. There isn't always a thread of logic.The 350 gram limit is for carry on coffee and it is a TSA rule, don't blame Colombia. There is no limit in checked baggage, but in all cases you apparently need to declare it.

Knowledge
10-24-22, 23:23
TSA does not operate in Colombia. Colombia is where the coffee was confiscated. As I wrote in another post, it is Spirit Airlines that confiscated the coffee.


The 350 gram limit is for carry on coffee and it is a TSA rule, don't blame Colombia. There is no limit in checked baggage, but in all cases you apparently need to declare it.

Lucky Nuts
10-25-22, 00:01
All but one of the bags of coffee I brought back were gifts.

I personally don't like most Colombian coffee because it's not strong enough for me, and I actually bring coffee from the States down with me to Colombia as odd as that may sound.

However I have found one coffee that I like in Colombia called Matiz # 9 and is very strong, and similar to Starbucks Verona Blend which you might like.

As far as coffee makers, I bring those with me as well depending on which Country I'm headed to. Especially necessary in Asia.

We seem to have something in common, but I bet when it comes to women, were probably polar opposites. LOL.Haha yeah we can agree to disagree on women and it wouldn't be a good thing if everyone chased after the same chicas. Well maybe your point is you chase after the beauty of the ones some of us overlook. En todo caso it's all good to play the game differently for the overall good.

I haven't tried Matiz #9 but will look for it. I like bold. I'm not familiar with any Starbucks brewed coffees but I love McDs coffee LOL.

When I'm in SE Asia longer than my coffee grounds survive I do go to Starbucks and buy Colombian coffee beans. I bring my USA grounds and ask them to match that courseness. Actually I probably like that Starbuck's Colombia coffee better than my daily coffee in USA but it's a tad expensive for daily use at home.

Mr Enternational
10-25-22, 02:19
TSA does not operate in Colombia. Colombia is where the coffee was confiscated. As I wrote in another post, it is Spirit Airlines that confiscated the coffee.But TSA rules govern all direct flights going to the USA from a foreign country. That is why right before you enter the plane there are people asking more security questions and doing random checks. There is none of this had you been going from Colombia to Peru, or Colombia to Brazil, or Colombia to Dominican Republic. So Spirit did it because of TSA rules.

Zeos1
10-25-22, 03:10
TSA does not operate in Colombia. Colombia is where the coffee was confiscated. As I wrote in another post, it is Spirit Airlines that confiscated the coffee.TSA rules apply if you board a plane going to the USA, or even a plane flying over the USA. The airlines are required to comply with TSA rules. If it was a domestic airline and you were flying within the country only then TSA would not apply.

TSA does have a rule that pertains to carry on of powdered or ground materials and so I'm assuming that would be the reason. It's a pain in the neck for sure.

Zeos1
10-25-22, 03:18
Can someone explain the currency?

When I see 70 mil how does that translate to USD.

I've seen Colombian pesos to USD online.Mil is spanish for 1000.70 mil is 70,000. Sometimes also written as 70 k, as k is an international abbreviation for 1000. So look up the quote for the conversion, which changes daily.

DandyMan51
10-25-22, 04:07
Note that this report is a bit delayed. I wrote it up but didn't post it. I already had a ticket to go to Rio when I had this experience so I wasn't going to get much more in Medellin on this trip anyways.

I finally am starting to understand why people swear by Medellin. Today I met Mariana who was the best FB Chica of the trip. I messaged her on FB and we couldn't meet on Monday because she had to take care of her kids. She offered for me to come over so we could talk which was surprisingly sweet but I declined since I'm not looking for a chica wife at this time. We ended up rescheduling for Wednesday. She was very prompt in her responses. I never had to wait more than 20 minutes for one and usually it was in a minute or two. No price negotiations on FB, the only ask she had was that I pay for her taxi. She came over at the agreed time (well, about 10 minutes late but that is early by Chica time) and we sat and talked for a bit. She definitely has some imperfections that were airbrushed in her FB pictures but she is thin, A-cups, blonde, and generally good looking. Not a model but probably a decent GND type. It may also be that are FB pictures are right but she just didn't have makeup on since she said she just came from the gym. She is 25 but had her first kid at 17 and raises her kids full time. She We had rather good chemistry and danced a bit while stripping and doing some foreplay in the bedroom. Did some DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and a couple positions before I came. She asked to take a shower and I got dressed. After which she sat next to me on the sofa and listened to some music. She asked if I wanted to do anything else to which I declined because I have work tomorrow morning but she also asked if I wanted to go to a salsa club we talked about during the weekend. She ended up calling a taxi and I paid her standard FB rate mas taxi. If I improve my Spanish, I could definitely get used to this.

DandyMan51
10-25-22, 04:12
A lot of this has already been mentioned on the forum but wanted to share some learnings based on my recent experiences.

1. Add as many girls on FB as interest you about a month before your trip. I started a week before and am only starting to see the real dividends now (girls adding me, lots of acceptances).

2. Just message a girl the day you want her. If she isn't available, say it's ok and look to schedule some time later. No need to message her a month before your trip.

3. On FB, if a girl brings up a price, she's probably not worth it. All my best experiences were with girls who didn't bring up price in our conversations.

4. If a girls messages you first, she's probably not worth it.

5. When a girl comes over, offer her a beverage of her choice, it helps them relax and breaks the ice before you start talking.

6. The more spanish you know the better. My Spanish is probably B1 level but I still stumble over words. If you are fluent, you can develop a strong connection like some of the legends of this forum have (ex. RiceRocket). Learn some flirty phrases and just be chill overall.

7. Play some music while the girl is around. Colombians love music. Preferably something latino. I have had girls play Bad Bunny, Feid and some other artists. Once the girl is comfortable she will change the music to her favorite artist herself. The music also leads to dancing which is a great natural lead-up to the bedroom.

8. I have found doing some DATY early yields results and helps get the girl in the mood.

9. Make sure to have a clean towel ready for the girl. It's just polite. I always ask them to give it back to me so I can put it in the washer so they know I clean it after each use.

10. When discussing common topics the answers are. This is not my first time here. I love Medellin. I don't bring many chicas here (with a coy smile). I have have both Colombian and foreign friends here. I will be here for 1+ months more.

Disclaimer 1: These are just my observations and what's worked for me. Naturally, other people have their own methods.

Disclaimer 2: Mongering in Medellin takes a different flow from everywhere else I have been. It's more like dating in that the more you put into it the more you get out of it. If you have significant free time and are interested in having a number of what are basically "girlfriends", it is really good. These girls are more than happy to treat it like an actual relationship.

JjBee62
10-25-22, 05:10
Can someone explain the currency?

When I see 70 mil how does that translate to USD.

I've seen Colombian pesos to USD online.70 mil or 70 k is 70,000 pesos. Right now that's a little more than $14. The current exchange rate is 4990 Colombian pesos per dollar. Round up to 5000 and it's easy. Remove 4 zeros, double the number that's left and you have dollars. 50 mil is $10,100 mil is $20.

Do not pay in dollars. For most people tge best rate comes from bo fee ATMs. Depending on their bank some people can get a better rate from a money exchange, but not ine at the airport.

Many Colombians will omit the mil when talking price. It's always a good idea to confirm she's talking mil pesos and not dollars. Paying $200 when you think you'll only be paying $40 is a headache you don't want.

Recondite
10-25-22, 05:11
Good insights. I identify with a lot of your experiences and think you are on well on your way down the semi to nonpro path.

I wouldn't have paid Mariana in your last post unless she hinted / asked you for money or you are most comfortable paying her. It sounds to me like you stumbled onto a nonpro with her (I completely stumbled onto the nonpro facebook game by accident too and now its what I swear by).

Anyway, my thinking now is why pay if you don't have to? Lots of women will accept your money but that doesn't mean they expect you to pay and you may find you piss a few off by offering them payment. They will make it clear if they do want money. I've found semipros ask for a "regalito" followed by "da me lo que quieres" or an amount or they mention needing help with some expense they have like a sick kid. I'll give them 150 or 200 k in those cases.

Otherwise in terms of your observations, some girls who contact you first are cool too. Just chat with them and feel them out. I'd judge them based on how they comunicate and their photos more than who makes the first move. Maybe I like the flattery, but it's fun to get the "papsito" and "eres muy lindo" messages.

I also agree that setting a datelike mood and being sexually generous leads to the best results.

Finally I agree speaking Spanish reaps huge dividends as well as being observant of and reactive to the women, which it sounds like you were.


A lot of this has already been mentioned on the forum but wanted to share some learnings based on my recent experiences.

1. Add as many girls on FB as interest you about a month before your trip. I started a week before and am only starting to see the real dividends now (girls adding me, lots of acceptances).

2. Just message a girl the day you want her. If she isn't available, say it's ok and look to schedule some time later. No need to message her a month before your trip.

3. On FB, if a girl brings up a price, she's probably not worth it. All my best experiences were with girls who didn't bring up price in our conversations.

4. If a girls messages you first, she's probably not worth it.

5. When a girl comes over, offer her a beverage of her choice, it helps them relax and breaks the ice before you start talking.

6. The more spanish you know the better. My Spanish is probably B1 level but I still stumble over words. If you are fluent, you can develop a strong connection like some of the legends of this forum have (ex. RiceRocket). Learn some flirty phrases and just be chill overall.

7. Play some music while the girl is around. Colombians love music. Preferably something latino. I have had girls play Bad Bunny, Feid and some other artists. Once the girl is comfortable she will change the music to her favorite artist herself. The music also leads to dancing which is a great natural lead-up to the bedroom.

8. I have found doing some DATY early yields results and helps get the girl in the mood.

JjBee62
10-25-22, 05:24
A lot of this has already been mentioned on the forum but wanted to share some learnings based on my recent experiences.

1. Add as many girls on FB as interest you about a month before your trip. I started a week before and am only starting to see the real dividends now (girls adding me, lots of acceptances).

2. Just message a girl the day you want her. If she isn't available, say it's ok and look to schedule some time later. No need to message her a month before your trip.

3. On FB, if a girl brings up a price, she's probably not worth it. All my best experiences were with girls who didn't bring up price in our conversations.

4. If a girls messages you first, she's probably not worth it.

5. When a girl comes over, offer her a beverage of her choice, it helps them relax and breaks the ice before you start talking.

6. The more spanish you know the better. My Spanish is probably B1 level but I still stumble over words. If you are fluent, you can develop a strong connection like some of the legends of this forum have (ex. RiceRocket). Learn some flirty phrases and just be chill overall.

7. Play some music while the girl is around. Colombians love music. Preferably something latino. I have had girls play Bad Bunny, Feid and some other artists. Once the girl is comfortable she will change the music to her favorite artist herself. The music also leads to dancing which is a great natural lead-up to the bedroom.

8. I have found doing some DATY early yields results and helps get the girl in the mood.

9. Make sure to have a clean towel ready for the girl. It's just polite. I always ask them to give it back to me so I can put it in the washer so they know I clean it after each use.

10. When discussing common topics the answers are. This is not my first time here. I love Medellin. I don't bring many chicas here (with a coy smile). I have have both Colombian and foreign friends here. I will be here for 1+ months more.

Disclaimer 1: These are just my observations and what's worked for me. Naturally, other people have their own methods.

Disclaimer 2: Mongering in Medellin takes a different flow from everywhere else I have been. It's more like dating in that the more you put into it the more you get out of it. If you have significant free time and are interested in having a number of what are basically "girlfriends", it is really good. These girls are more than happy to treat it like an actual relationship.Excellent lessons learned and great report on Mariana. One suggestion is to moderate any claims of prior Colombian experience. Keep it vague.

Dcrist0527
10-25-22, 14:28
I've been staying there going back to 2006. I also do Airbnb.

I just messaged what I thought was Alexa, to see about availability next month.

The reply I got was from Geraldine?

I'm wondering if that's the same geraldine AKA Demi Moore from back in the day, that's now possibly working at M1 in the Office??

Anyone on here that's been to M1 lately, who has been going there for years might know the answer!

I'm guessing Alexa is no longer there. What a shame because she was such a sweetheart.

Quite a bit of availability at M1 for next month,kinda surprising Hmmmm.As of 2 weeks ago, both Alexa and Geraldine are there. Geraldine is just as sweet as Alexa. As for the Demi Moore reference, I'm not sure what you mean. Geraldine does not resemble Demi Moore in any way if that's what you mean.

I've spent alot of time there this year. Several weeks ago, I wrote about an issue that occurred there that seriously impacted the girls admittance. When I visited a couple weeks ago, things were back to normal. This is pure speculation on my part but I do think that time period where girls were not allowed in without a scheduled date did really impact their occupancy rate. But as I said, things appear normal now.

I'm heading back to Medellin later this week. Staying in an airbnb this time but I do plan on visiting their bar at least 1 or 2 nights. If I hear of any other troubles, I'll update the board.

Knowledge
10-25-22, 15:26
I like the list. I don't think any of the points are unique to Colombia. That is what makes them so valuable. I am a little troubled by the thought that anyone needs to be advised to offer guests something to eat or drink, among other guidance. It makes me worry about what some of the interactions with the girls are like.


Excellent lessons learned and great report on Mariana. One suggestion is to moderate any claims of prior Colombian experience. Keep it vague.

Ken Allen
10-25-22, 18:31
70 mil or 70 k is 70,000 pesos. Right now that's a little more than $14. The current exchange rate is 4990 Colombian pesos per dollar. Round up to 5000 and it's easy. Remove 4 zeros, double the number that's left and you have dollars. 50 mil is $10,100 mil is $20.

Do not pay in dollars. For most people tge best rate comes from bo fee ATMs. Depending on their bank some people can get a better rate from a money exchange, but not ine at the airport.

Many Colombians will omit the mil when talking price. It's always a good idea to confirm she's talking mil pesos and not dollars. Paying $200 when you think you'll only be paying $40 is a headache you don't want.Thanks for the advice.

I'm planning on making my first trip to Medellin mid December 17-22.

I've mongered in Sousa and Jaco pre Covid.

I'm excited to visit Medellin. The prices I seee are ridiculously cheap for everything.

Food. Alcohol. Hotels. Women.

I'm hoping to have more of a "date" experience.

Meet a local waitress or hotel employee and spend an evening together.

But will also check our el center for street action.

I'm planning on staying at the click clack.

What's the street or bar action in that area of poblano?

AmorPorFavor
10-25-22, 19:25
Note that this report is a bit delayed. I wrote it up but didn't post it. I already had a ticket to go to Rio when I had this experience so I wasn't going to get much more in Medellin on this trip anyways.

I finally am starting to understand why people swear by Medellin. Today I met Mariana who was the best FB Chica of the trip. I messaged her on FB and we couldn't meet on Monday because she had to take care of her kids. She offered for me to come over so we could talk which was surprisingly sweet but I declined since I'm not looking for a chica wife at this time. We ended up rescheduling for Wednesday. She was very prompt in her responses. I never had to wait more than 20 minutes for one and usually it was in a minute or two. No price negotiations on FB, the only ask she had was that I pay for her taxi. She came over at the agreed time (well, about 10 minutes late but that is early by Chica time) and we sat and talked for a bit. She definitely has some imperfections that were airbrushed in her FB pictures but she is thin, A-cups, blonde, and generally good looking. Not a model but probably a decent GND type. It may also be that are FB pictures are right but she just didn't have makeup on since she said she just came from the gym. She is 25 but had her first kid at 17 and raises her kids full time. She We had rather good chemistry and danced a bit while stripping and doing some foreplay in the bedroom. Did some DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and a couple positions before I came. She asked to take a shower and I got dressed. After which she sat next to me on the sofa and listened to some music. She asked if I wanted to do anything else to which I declined because I have work tomorrow morning but she also asked if I wanted to go to a salsa club we talked about during the weekend. She ended up calling a taxi and I paid her standard FB rate mas taxi. If I improve my Spanish, I could definitely get used to this.How much was the standard FB fee that you paid and around how much do the taxis cost if you are staying in Poblado round trip for the chicas?

Mtndew704
10-25-22, 19:37
How much was the standard FB fee that you paid and around how much do the taxis cost if you are staying in Poblado round trip for the chicas?200-250 k is standard in my experience. I just use ubers and its a few dollars there and few dollars to send them back.

SpiderRider
10-25-22, 19:46
[quote] As of 2 weeks ago, both Alexa and Geraldine are there. Geraldine is just as sweet as Alexa. As for the Demi Moore reference, I'm not sure what you mean. Geraldine does not resemble Demi Moore in any way if that's what you mean. / quote].

There was a popular puta at the Mansion 10 or more years ago, named Geraldine. Some said she looked like actress Demi Moore. I really can't say that I am familiar with either person. But I have seen "that Geraldine" at parties long past. Unless "your Geraldine " is about 35 years old, Its not her.

SpiderRider
10-25-22, 19:50
200-250 k is standard in my experience. I just use ubers and its a few dollars there and few dollars to send them back.With the current, outrageous, exchange rate, its closer to 300-350 mil.

MateoCast98
10-25-22, 21:21
Has anyone tried to connect the new iPhone 14 to Claro for example? These new US version of these phones only have esims, not a physical sim. I've never had a problem with my iPhone 11. I want to make sure it works before getting an upgrade and going back to Colombia.

Husker Dude
10-25-22, 22:22
I've been staying there going back to 2006. I also do Airbnb.

I just messaged what I thought was Alexa, to see about availability next month.

The reply I got was from Geraldine?

I'm wondering if that's the same geraldine AKA Demi Moore from back in the day, that's now possibly working at M1 in the Office??

Anyone on here that's been to M1 lately, who has been going there for years might know the answer!

I'm guessing Alexa is no longer there. What a shame because she was such a sweetheart.

Quite a bit of availability at M1 for next month,kinda surprising Hmmmm.Alexa is still at the Mansion, in fact part owner. The main owner is Robert. They are paying off Greg to buy it.

DandyMan51
10-25-22, 22:25
I like the list. I don't think any of the points are unique to Colombia. That is what makes them so valuable. I am a little troubled by the thought that anyone needs to be advised to offer guests something to eat or drink, among other guidance. It makes me worry about what some of the interactions with the girls are like.Thinking of a girl who you are paying to fuck as a guest is a slightly different mindset than what many may be used to. When you are calling over escorts or going to strip clubs and brothels, any time spent ordering, waiting for, and consuming food or drink is time on the clock you are paying for, not to mention the cost of the food / drink. With these Medellin FB girls, it is way more like a date, and you can and should approach it like you would a date, rather than how you would approach meeting with a working girl.

Steve 9696
10-25-22, 22:42
A lot of this has already been mentioned on the forum but wanted to share some learnings based on my recent experiences.

1. Add as many girls on FB as interest you about a month before your trip. I started a week before and am only starting to see the real dividends now (girls adding me, lots of acceptances).

2. Just message a girl the day you want her. If she isn't available, say it's ok and look to schedule some time later. No need to message her a month before your trip.

3. On FB, if a girl brings up a price, she's probably not worth it. All my best experiences were with girls who didn't bring up price in our conversations.

4. If a girls messages you first, she's probably not worth it.

5. When a girl comes over, offer her a beverage of her choice, it helps them relax and breaks the ice before you start talking.

6. The more spanish you know the better. My Spanish is probably B1 level but I still stumble over words. If you are fluent, you can develop a strong connection like some of the legends of this forum have (ex. RiceRocket). Learn some flirty phrases and just be chill overall.

7. Play some music while the girl is around. Colombians love music. Preferably something latino. I have had girls play Bad Bunny, Feid and some other artists. Once the girl is comfortable she will change the music to her favorite artist herself. The music also leads to dancing which is a great natural lead-up to the bedroom.

8. I have found doing some DATY early yields results and helps get the girl in the mood.

9. Make sure to have a clean towel ready for the girl. It's just polite. I always ask them to give it back to me so I can put it in the washer so they know I clean it after each use.

10. When discussing common topics the answers are. This is not my first time here. I love Medellin. I don't bring many chicas here (with a coy smile). I have have both Colombian and foreign friends here. I will be here for 1+ months more.

Disclaimer 1: These are just my observations and what's worked for me. Naturally, other people have their own methods.

Disclaimer 2: Mongering in Medellin takes a different flow from everywhere else I have been. It's more like dating in that the more you put into it the more you get out of it. If you have significant free time and are interested in having a number of what are basically "girlfriends", it is really good. These girls are more than happy to treat it like an actual relationship.Great list and agree with most of your points. Including that Colombia is different. Suggest Smirnoff Green Apple. The drink of choice for many FB girls. And get some chips. They all seem to love to munch down. A JBL blue tooth speaker for the tunes. Play Carol G! And a jacuzzi. They love jacuzzis. Rock on!

SpiderRider
10-26-22, 01:31
What's the street or bar action in that area of poblano? Desperate and dangerous venezolanas in the street. Colombian uber-sharks in the bars. Not a great place to find a "sweety".

Nounce
10-26-22, 01:49
I personally don't like most Colombian coffee because it's not strong enough for me, ...I like strong coffee too. Have you seen the stainless steel commercial pot like in the picture? They are in most local places. Some places actually have pretty good coffee. One day, I was asking for a second cup, she asked fuerte as she knew I drink a lot of black coffee. I said yes, and I realized the coffee was brewed very strong and was diluted with hot water. One cup is diluted, the other is not.

The last two pictures are in Sao Paulo, but this place doesn't dilute it and only gives you a small cup after but it is very strong. I usually will order another one

MoonShot
10-26-22, 02:33
200-250 k is standard in my experience. I just use ubers and its a few dollars there and few dollars to send them back.I disagree that there is some "standard" FB rate. Each girl is different. Some girls will accept 200-250 k, some girls will reject it as too low. Some girls are younger, some girls are older. Some girls are very experienced, some girls are just starting out. Some girls are very attractive, some girls are average looking. Some girls are slim, some girls are chubby. Based on these factors, each girl will determine her own rate. You determine what you want to pay and the girl will decide whether she will accept it. 200-250 k is a good starting point and then you will have to decide whether to move up your bid or lose the girl. Another factor is how long you want her to stay. There is a difference between one hour and two hours. There is also the factors of covered versus uncovered blowjobs and barebacking. All these are factors in the amount of money that the girl will want.

Nounce
10-26-22, 02:43
...I wouldn't have paid Mariana in your last post unless she hinted / asked you for money ....I am not sure about it. I think it depends. I am guessing you are attractive in some way or are young, that gives the girl a reason to have sex with you for free. In this case, she is taking care of a kid full time so I think she came straight for sex because of money.

I have free sex offer but they came like this. This is a threesome.

Balboa
10-26-22, 03:34
I am not sure about it. I think it depends. I am guessing you are attractive in some way or are young, that gives the girl a reason to have sex with you for free. In this case, she is taking care of a kid full time so I think she came straight for sex because of money.

I have free sex offer but they came like this. This is a threesome.She said she was looking for both money and tussi.

"Las dos” from your conversation.

Zeos1
10-26-22, 03:39
Thanks for the advice.

I'm planning on making my first trip to Medellin mid December 17-22.

I've mongered in Sousa and Jaco pre Covid.

I'm excited to visit Medellin. The prices I seee are ridiculously cheap for everything.

Food. Alcohol. Hotels. Women.

I'm hoping to have more of a "date" experience.

Meet a local waitress or hotel employee and spend an evening together.

But will also check our el center for street action.

I'm planning on staying at the click clack.

What's the street or bar action in that area of poblano?Poblado, and you most likely you won't be able to bring guests into Click Clack, if that is a concern.

Nounce
10-26-22, 03:46
She said she was looking for both money and tussi.

"Las dos from your conversation.I only have very basic Spanish. You may be correct. Shouldn't it be LOS dos if it is el tussi? That was what got me confused because she used LOS 3 correctly. And she would not give me a price either.

John Clayton
10-26-22, 03:59
I only have very basic Spanish. You may be correct. Shouldn't it be LOS dos if it is el tussi? That was what got me confused because she used LOS 3 correctly. And she would not give me a price either.Las dos cosas?

Gabacho
10-26-22, 04:52
I am not sure about it. I think it depends. I am guessing you are attractive in some way or are young, that gives the girl a reason to have sex with you for free. In this case, she is taking care of a kid full time so I think she came straight for sex because of money.

I have free sex offer but they came like this. This is a threesome.By "las dos" she means las dos cosas and is clearly stating that she wants money and tussi. I'd stay away from this chick if I were you. Drugs with maybe an exception for weed are bad mmmkay LOL. Anyways your call but me personally I like to stay sober during my sessions.

Huacho
10-26-22, 05:34
Alexa is still at the Mansion, in fact part owner. The main owner is Robert. They are paying off Greg to buy it.Greg will rip them off and screw them.

Huacho
10-26-22, 05:37
Las dos cosas?Yes. Exactly.

Chicafan
10-26-22, 07:14
With the current, outrageous, exchange rate, its closer to 300-350 mil.Pardon but girls are now asking 300-350 because they know the exchange rate is high?


Alexa is still at the Mansion, in fact part owner. The main owner is Robert. They are paying off Greg to buy it.I thought it was recently sold so new owners and that Robert the former owner then? Pre Covid he was usually at the bar at night and usually had a girl not of the mansion with him. The guy I am thinking of also had a Hummer parked outside the hotel at night. Thanks.

JjBee62
10-26-22, 07:30
Las dos cosas?We have a winner!

Mtndew704
10-26-22, 15:37
With the current, outrageous, exchange rate, its closer to 300-350 mil.The chicas don't really keep up with the exchange rate from my experience.


I disagree that there is some "standard" FB rate. Each girl is different. Some girls will accept 200-250 k, some girls will reject it as too low. Some girls are younger, some girls are older. Some girls are very experienced, some girls are just starting out. Some girls are very attractive, some girls are average looking. Some girls are slim, some girls are chubby. Based on these factors, each girl will determine her own rate. You determine what you want to pay and the girl will decide whether she will accept it. 200-250 k is a good starting point and then you will have to decide whether to move up your bid or lose the girl. Another factor is how long you want her to stay. There is a difference between one hour and two hours. There is also the factors of covered versus uncovered blowjobs and barebacking. All these are factors in the amount of money that the girl will want.I just threw out a ballpark number for the individual as a starting point. I have paid 0 pesos for a chica in Medellin and I have paid 400 k one time. Obviously, like you mentioned, there's going to be a wide range of factors that could lower or raise that number I tossed out.

MoonShot
10-26-22, 16:06
The chicas don't really keep up with the exchange rate from my experience.

I just threw out a ballpark number for the individual as a starting point. I have paid 0 pesos for a chica in Medellin and I have paid 400 k one time. Obviously, like you mentioned, there's going to be a wide range of factors that could lower or raise that number I tossed out.I agree that the exchange rate with the US dollar is not something that chicas follow. It is irrelevant to them other than those who give you quotes in US dollars.

I agree that 200-250 k is a good starting point. My point is that if you are on a short trip, don't let an extra 50 k or $10 be the deciding factor in whether you want to see a particular girl. Each girl is unique and if you want to see that particular girl, that is what you want need to pay to see her. When you go back home, don't be the guy who let $10 stop him from seeing a girl that he really wanted to see and say that it was the principle of the matter. Just pay the extra $10 and have fun, that's my opinion. It matters more to expats on a tight budget.

Knowledge
10-26-22, 16:12
Sex workers and anyone else who conducts their business in local currency have no reason to keep up with or be aware of foreign exchange rates. People with access to foreign currency and who have the need to conduct foreign exchange transactions do have reasons to keep up with and be aware of exchange rates.


The chicas don't really keep up with the exchange rate from my experience.

I just threw out a ballpark number for the individual as a starting point. I have paid 0 pesos for a chica in Medellin and I have paid 400 k one time. Obviously, like you mentioned, there's going to be a wide range of factors that could lower or raise that number I tossed out.

Knowledge
10-26-22, 16:19
He probably meant the standard amount he pays. You two are saying the same thing in different ways. Each person's standard rate he pays will differ according to which girls he frequents and what activity takes place. I think it's in the girls' favor that guys imagine their is some sort of set fee they can benchmark because the girls are all trying to get as much as they can per go.


I disagree that there is some "standard" FB rate. Each girl is different. Some girls will accept 200-250 k, some girls will reject it as too low. Some girls are younger, some girls are older. Some girls are very experienced, some girls are just starting out. Some girls are very attractive, some girls are average looking. Some girls are slim, some girls are chubby. Based on these factors, each girl will determine her own rate. You determine what you want to pay and the girl will decide whether she will accept it. 200-250 k is a good starting point and then you will have to decide whether to move up your bid or lose the girl. Another factor is how long you want her to stay. There is a difference between one hour and two hours. There is also the factors of covered versus uncovered blowjobs and barebacking. All these are factors in the amount of money that the girl will want.

Surfer500
10-26-22, 17:16
By "las dos" she means las dos cosas and is clearly stating that she wants money and tussi. I'd stay away from this chick if I were you. Drugs with maybe an exception for weed are bad mmmkay LOL. Anyways your call but me personally I like to stay sober during my sessions.I know your fluent in Spanish, however I've also heard LOS dos used in the context of together as well.

One of my Chicas at times say's los dos referring to when it will just be the two of us together.

Regardless, the meaning of los dos was very clear in the text messages, meaning either both, the two of them, or together.

And like you, I see lots of red flags going with this Chica and would stay clear of her as well.

Knowledge
10-26-22, 17:45
I hope I'm wrong but it all feels a bit risky. I personally would walk away. I guess it comes with the territory of that tussi life.


Greg will rip them off and screw them.

Ken Allen
10-26-22, 19:13
70 mil or 70 k is 70,000 pesos. Right now that's a little more than $14. The current exchange rate is 4990 Colombian pesos per dollar. Round up to 5000 and it's easy. Remove 4 zeros, double the number that's left and you have dollars. 50 mil is $10,100 mil is $20.

Do not pay in dollars. For most people tge best rate comes from bo fee ATMs. Depending on their bank some people can get a better rate from a money exchange, but not ine at the airport.

Many Colombians will omit the mil when talking price. It's always a good idea to confirm she's talking mil pesos and not dollars. Paying $200 when you think you'll only be paying $40 is a headache you don't want.Thanks for the advice.

I'm planning on making my first trip to Medellin mid December 17-22.

I've mongered in Sousa and Jaco pre Covid.

I'm excited to visit Medellin. The prices I seee are ridiculously cheap for everything.

Food. Alcohol. Hotels. Women.

I'm hoping to have more of a "date" experience.

Meet a local waitress or hotel employee and spend an evening together.

But will also check our el center for street action.

I'm planning on staying at the click clack.

What's the street or bar action in that area of poblano?

Ken Allen
10-26-22, 19:19
I disagree that there is some "standard" FB rate. Each girl is different. Some girls will accept 200-250 k, some girls will reject it as too low. Some girls are younger, some girls are older. Some girls are very experienced, some girls are just starting out. Some girls are very attractive, some girls are average looking. Some girls are slim, some girls are chubby. Based on these factors, each girl will determine her own rate. You determine what you want to pay and the girl will decide whether she will accept it. 200-250 k is a good starting point and then you will have to decide whether to move up your bid or lose the girl. Another factor is how long you want her to stay. There is a difference between one hour and two hours. There is also the factors of covered versus uncovered blowjobs and barebacking. All these are factors in the amount of money that the girl will want.How do you find them in FB? Did you create a new fake profile or use your current real profile?

What did you search for to find single young available women?

From what I've read I don't believe I will be able to have a guest to my room at click clack.

What do you do on this situation?

Ideally would be nice to meet someone at the hotel bar and bring upstairs.

Ken Allen
10-26-22, 19:20
Poblado, and you most likely you won't be able to bring guests into Click Clack, if that is a concern.Is there a comparable hotel in the same area that allows guests.

Shemp
10-26-22, 22:02
Pardon but girls are now asking 300-350 because they know the exchange rate is high?

I thought it was recently sold so new owners and that Robert the former owner then? Pre Covid he was usually at the bar at night and usually had a girl not of the mansion with him. The guy I am thinking of also had a Hummer parked outside the hotel at night. Thanks.Robert still owns the place & drives a hummer & a camaro.

Balboa
10-26-22, 22:04
I only have very basic Spanish. You may be correct. Shouldn't it be LOS dos if it is el tussi? That was what got me confused because she used LOS 3 correctly. And she would not give me a price either.If you just read the context of your conversation it's very evident.

"Do you only want Tussi, no money?
"Both, love".

Bingo, Lol.

"Are you not hookers?
"Why do you ask?

That's actually funny.

It's normal every day life down there man, don't sweat it.

Free pussy isn't free anyway (except for Mr E, Lol, just kidding).

I am thankful for the PFP.

Enjoy.

Shemp
10-26-22, 22:06
I've been staying there going back to 2006. I also do Airbnb.

I just messaged what I thought was Alexa, to see about availability next month.

The reply I got was from Geraldine?

I'm wondering if that's the same geraldine AKA Demi Moore from back in the day, that's now possibly working at M1 in the Office??

Anyone on here that's been to M1 lately, who has been going there for years might know the answer!

I'm guessing Alexa is no longer there. What a shame because she was such a sweetheart.

Quite a bit of availability at M1 for next month,kinda surprising Hmmmm.She is not that Geraldine. This one is an office assistant who handles most of the bookings & helps out the guests. Alexa is still there but in more of an office manager type role.

SpiderRider
10-26-22, 23:27
I only have very basic Spanish. You may be correct. Shouldn't it be LOS dos if it is el tussi? That was what got me confused because she used LOS 3 correctly. And she would not give me a price either.Cosa / cosas are feminine.

SpiderRider
10-26-22, 23:32
The chicas don't really keep up with the exchange rate from my experience.The sharks do. And they all know about inflation and buying powwer.

Knowledge
10-26-22, 23:37
Haven, but based on what I saw recently when I was in Provenza it is a punter clubhouse that makes the infamous San Peter seem subdued.


Is there a comparable hotel in the same area that allows guests.

Mtndew704
10-27-22, 00:00
The sharks do. And they all know about inflation and buying powwer.Well I guess I am messing around with the right chicas cause none of them have ever brought up inflation or buying power LOL.

Deafcon
10-27-22, 01:55
Anyone know what the deal is on the Mansion Halloween party? I'm in town, but not staying there. A chica told me it's going down Friday.

JustTK
10-27-22, 02:51
When you go back home, don't be the guy who let $10 stop him from seeing a girl that he really wanted to see and say that it was the principle of the matter. Just pay the extra $10 and have funt.Thats an interesting attitude. For your approach to work, you need to buy in to the idea that one can judge a girl remotely and decide that she is worth having a date with, far more than most of the other girls. I don't believe you can arrive at that decision, unless you spend a LOMG time w someone. Not smthg that most here can do. So to summarise, I disagree, I say don't pay the extra USD 10. Just move on because your not in a position to decide on one girl over another with much conviction. Chances are you will meet another girl that you like in short time. You will have the same fun with this one or that one. And a lot less stress.

Sure, go ahead if you like. Do what works. Its only an exchange of opinions. I just wanted to put fwd another approach.

Husker Dude
10-27-22, 04:26
Anyone know what the deal is on the Mansion Halloween party? I'm in town, but not staying there. A chica told me it's going down Friday.Friday Oct 28 at 8 PM. 200 K entry for non-guests.

Errol Flynn
10-27-22, 05:29
Robert still owns the place & drives a hummer & a camaro.In MDE? Dang Robert's done well for a middle aged Puerto Rican guy come to MDE. No disrespect, Robert was always more helpful to me than Aussie Greg, but they all always seemed to scream poverty when guests wanted anything. Maybe I need to check it out again.

Nounce
10-27-22, 05:32
If you just read the context of your conversation it's very evident....It becomes obvious once you said it. Thanks.

So I asked again tonight.

Balboa
10-27-22, 10:09
It becomes obvious once you said it. Thanks.

So I asked again tonight.Sounds good Nounce.
She's good at the game. Answering questions with questions, etc, lol.

Not saying shes bad.
I dont know.
Shes playing little games tho.
So .. Enjoy if you want. Con cuidado pf.

Balboa
10-27-22, 10:16
In MDE? Dang Robert's done well for a middle aged Puerto Rican guy come to MDE. No disrespect, Robert was always more helpful to me than Aussie Greg, but they all always seemed to scream poverty when guests wanted anything. Maybe I need to check it out again.Yeah, good guy, Robert.

Mexican.

Knowledge
10-27-22, 15:51
Save yourself some time and a potentially expensive argument that could bring unwanted attention. Agree on a specific price for specific activities in advance, or move on. Red flags are flapping in each of her responses. Ignore them at your risk.


It becomes obvious once you said it. Thanks.

So I asked again tonight.

Nounce
10-27-22, 16:04
Sounds good Nounce.
She's good at the game. Answering questions with questions, etc, lol.

Not saying shes bad.
I dont know.
Shes playing little games tho.
So .. Enjoy if you want. Con cuidado pf.She is a bored young girl living with her parents. There are a few like her if one is looking for under the radar FB girls. I guess she wants to have a party at my expense, and some money too. The first time she was asked to babysit so she offered her friend who I liked better. That leads to the eventual discussion of 3 P. She has been polite so I just treat her the same way. I have zero intention to invite her to my place now.

Nounce
10-27-22, 16:21
...And like you, I see lots of red flags going with this Chica and would stay clear of her as well.I will give you a different take. Some girls will tell you what they like, some girls will pretend to be what you like but they are the same girl. The later are usually the more experienced ones. I made my observation based on the FB girls I have repeated. There are enough posts here from experienced members to tell you what many of them are like. I am not looking to party and have to stay sober. I just want someone that knows her job and do it well and efficiently. LOL. I let them be themselves. I have a rooftop terrace so I just let them go up to smoke by themselves while I worked. I don't know how some of them can smoke like chain smoker and still functioning like it is nothing. My place is large enough so I also let them enjoy their music with sound tuned to the max by themselves in their own area too. LOL.

Surfer500
10-27-22, 17:55
I will give you a different take. Some girls will tell you what they like, some girls will pretend to be what you like but they are the same girl. The later are usually the more experienced ones. I made my observation based on the FB girls I have repeated. There are enough posts here from experienced members to tell you what many of them are like. I am not looking to party and have to stay sober. I just want someone that knows her job and do it well and efficiently. LOL. I let them be themselves. I have a rooftop terrace so I just let them go up to smoke by themselves while I worked. I don't know how some of them can smoke like chain smoker and still functioning like it is nothing. My place is large enough so I also let them enjoy their music with sound tuned to the max by themselves in their own area too. LOL.I, like you, have no problem letting Chicas smoke weed when they are with me, but only with ones that I have been with before, and I made my statement to stay clear of her assuming that you had never been with her before.

I think a few other's had the same concern, but did not articulate as to why, but having an un-vetted Chica come to be with you, and consuming Tussi, could be wrought with problems.

It's hard enough at times with the "language barrier" as your aware of which I struggle with at times as well, let alone all the other bull-shit that can come up, especially when these Chicas are high.

However, if you have been with this Chica before, or others you know have personally vetted her, then disregard my post.

This is just my "take" on what you posted.

Combo
10-27-22, 17:57
Thats an interesting attitude. For your approach to work, you need to buy in to the idea that one can judge a girl remotely and decide that she is worth having a date with, far more than most of the other girls. I don't believe you can arrive at that decision, unless you spend a LOMG time w someone. Not smthg that most here can do. So to summarise, I disagree, I say don't pay the extra USD 10. Just move on because your not in a position to decide on one girl over another with much conviction. Chances are you will meet another girl that you like in short time. You will have the same fun with this one or that one. And a lot less stress.

Sure, go ahead if you like. Do what works. Its only an exchange of opinions. I just wanted to put fwd another approach.That's the problem with using Facebook or SA (at least with a mujer you haven't met before). You have little idea what she'll be like in person. She may not look as good, she may be a lousy performer, hygiene might not be great. Personally I'm not going to bid up for someone I haven’t seen in person.

While I've used Facebook a bit, I much prefer to meet chicks in person. You can get a much better idea of how the experience will be (though it’s certainly not 100%). Of course if you just want to pound her hole, maybe that's not so crucial.

Balboa
10-27-22, 18:07
She is a bored young girl living with her parents. There are a few like her if one is looking for under the radar FB girls. I guess she wants to have a party at my expense, and some money too. The first time she was asked to babysit so she offered her friend who I liked better. That leads to the eventual discussion of 3 P. She has been polite so I just treat her the same way. I have zero intention to invite her to my place now.Sounds good amigo! I've read your reports, you seem to know what's going on.

Enjoy.

I'm just back in Rio today. Feels good, Lol.
After a few weeks in Colombia, which I enjoyed a lot, especially Medellin, it’s good to be back with the Cariocas.

Mtndew704
10-27-22, 18:32
That's the problem with using Facebook or SA (at least with a mujer you haven't met before). You have little idea what she'll be like in person. She may not look as good, she may be a lousy performer, hygiene might not be great. Personally I'm not going to bid up for someone I havent seen in person.

While I've used Facebook a bit, I much prefer to meet chicks in person. You can get a much better idea of how the experience will be (though its certainly not 100%). Of course if you just want to pound her hole, maybe that's not so crucial.This is why I like street girls / casas / el centro strip clubs. You can do a 30 min test drive for a cheap price then grab her number for later if you want to spend more time.

Ken Allen
10-27-22, 18:37
How do I find women on FB for my up long December trip to Medellin.

Do I need to sign up for FB dating and then search using location. Medellin?

MoonShot
10-27-22, 19:17
This is why I like street girls / casas / el centro strip clubs. You can do a 30 min test drive for a cheap price then grab her number for later if you want to spend more time.Every monger has his own preference and I don't try to say that one way is better than another. I went to Medellin, I only saw girls on FB and I had a good time. That is enough for me. Should I try out the street girls or the casa girls? I probably should give them a try next time but for now I am content with the FB girls and I will probably see mostly FB girls again on my next trip. Young attractive girls at a reasonable price to me, GFE sessions, girls coming directly to my hotel room. So far, no druggings and no robberies.

From my first trip, I now have some girls that are old favorites and I will see them again. I have some good new FB choices for my next trip and the trip looks promising. But I am going to try out a street girl or a casa girl so I can give an informed opinion on the other options.

Knowledge
10-27-22, 19:52
I'm with you. Sure, you can meet facebook girls in person too but it will cost you six figures to find out if it worth it to you.


This is why I like street girls / casas / el centro strip clubs. You can do a 30 min test drive for a cheap price then grab her number for later if you want to spend more time.

Hunglow1625
10-27-22, 20:56
Does anyone know if the ATM's there will accept Visa or Mastercard Money Cards? The reloadable kind.

Thanks in advance.

JjBee62
10-27-22, 22:08
That's the problem with using Facebook or SA (at least with a mujer you haven't met before). You have little idea what she'll be like in person. She may not look as good, she may be a lousy performer, hygiene might not be great. Personally I'm not going to bid up for someone I havent seen in person.

While I've used Facebook a bit, I much prefer to meet chicks in person. You can get a much better idea of how the experience will be (though its certainly not 100%). Of course if you just want to pound her hole, maybe that's not so crucial.It all depends on how well you use the available information.

My preferred FB girls are active online. They post jokes, links to interesting things and pictures. Not just pictures showing their assets, pictures of activities, places and people. Considering you may have several years of her life available to examine you can get a better idea about her than you'll get in 5 minutes face to face. Add in some chatting and it's not hard to make an informed decision.

However, if you just look at a couple of pics and make a decision, there's a good chance you'll be disappointed.

Combo
10-27-22, 22:14
This is why I like street girls / casas / el centro strip clubs. You can do a 30 min test drive for a cheap price then grab her number for later if you want to spend more time.Not a huge fan of the street girls (I usually hit el Centro maybe one or two days per visit). But I agree that short test drives are a great thing. I really don't want to commit to more than an hour or so with a chick I've never been naked with before.

Gabacho
10-28-22, 01:32
I know your fluent in Spanish, however I've also heard LOS dos used in the context of together as well.

One of my Chicas at times say's los dos referring to when it will just be the two of us together.

Regardless, the meaning of los dos was very clear in the text messages, meaning either both, the two of them, or together.

And like you, I see lots of red flags going with this Chica and would stay clear of her as well.It really doesn't matter if it's "las dos" or "LOS dos" las and LOS both mean "the" it just depends on if the noun being referred to is masculine or feminine "LOS dos tacos" "las dos llaves" "LOS dos de nosotros" to mean the two of us. The bottom line is she wasn't the two, the money and the tussi, and I agree I'm seeing red flags.

Also you can't always tell if a word is masculine or feminine by whether it ends with an a or an o you will learn that there's exceptions to the rule such as "Las manos" "el problema" "la foto" etc.

I know some guys dabble in drugs with their chicas and to each his own but I personally would avoid that, you never know if something has been laced or how it will affect you if you haven't done it before, and also if you it's a chick you haven't met before you don't know what her intentions could be. Just like the YouTube dude that got scoped, it's just opening up a possibility for a bad experience.

Knowledge
10-28-22, 03:40
Good advice, and you never know whether a girl will have a bad reaction to something she picked up on the street. Can you imagine having to deal with a girl in your room who is unconscious or worse? It boggles my mind that middle aged guys take risks like that.


It really doesn't matter if it's "las dos" or "LOS dos" las and LOS both mean "the" it just depends on if the noun being referred to is masculine or feminine "LOS dos tacos" "las dos llaves" "LOS dos de nosotros" to mean the two of us. The bottom line is she wasn't the two, the money and the tussi, and I agree I'm seeing red flags.

Also you can't always tell if a word is masculine or feminine by whether it ends with an a or an o you will learn that there's exceptions to the rule such as "Las manos" "el problema" "la foto" etc.

I know some guys dabble in drugs with their chicas and to each his own but I personally would avoid that, you never know if something has been laced or how it will affect you if you haven't done it before, and also if you it's a chick you haven't met before you don't know what her intentions could be. Just like the YouTube dude that got scoped, it's just opening up a possibility for a bad experience.

Knowledge
10-28-22, 03:42
Careful, once you go rat you never go back. Just kidding, I look forward to reading your findings.


That's the problem with using Facebook or SA (at least with a mujer you haven't met before). You have little idea what she'll be like in person. She may not look as good, she may be a lousy performer, hygiene might not be great. Personally I'm not going to bid up for someone I havent seen in person.

While I've used Facebook a bit, I much prefer to meet chicks in person. You can get a much better idea of how the experience will be (though its certainly not 100%). Of course if you just want to pound her hole, maybe that's not so crucial.


Every monger has his own preference and I don't try to say that one way is better than another. I went to Medellin, I only saw girls on FB and I had a good time. That is enough for me. Should I try out the street girls or the casa girls? I probably should give them a try next time but for now I am content with the FB girls and I will probably see mostly FB girls again on my next trip. Young attractive girls at a reasonable price to me, GFE sessions, girls coming directly to my hotel room. So far, no druggings and no robberies.

From my first trip, I now have some girls that are old favorites and I will see them again. I have some good new FB choices for my next trip and the trip looks promising. But I am going to try out a street girl or a casa girl so I can give an informed opinion on the other options.

JjBee62
10-28-22, 04:24
Does anyone know if the ATM's there will accept Visa or Mastercard Money Cards? The reloadable kind.

Thanks in advance.It depends on the card. Many of them can only be used within the US. They won't work in Colombia.

CK465
10-28-22, 12:03
What's included in the bridal deal? Is it like a GFE or how do they differ? I saw some prepagos advertise this on their profiles. Especially Photoprepagos.

Nounce
10-28-22, 14:53
...However, if you have been with this Chica before, or others you know have personally vetted her, then disregard my post.

This is just my "take" on what you posted.It is good advice. Thank you.

I don't have any drug at my place and I don't know where to buy them. I have never met a chica that will bring tussi with them to share for free. It is not cheap and many can't really afford it like they can with weeds. I went alone to make observation.

I looked up and saw the guy across the table was sniffing white powder while I was having fried chickened in El Centro.

SouthernOcean
10-28-22, 15:02
Which do you guys use? I would need to hit the ATM at the airport for taxi money.

Will be in town this coming mid-week. A cold beer for advice once I get there.

First time in Medellin. It will be hard to beat Cartagena.

Nounce
10-28-22, 15:11
Save yourself some time and a potentially expensive argument that could bring unwanted attention. Agree on a specific price for specific activities in advance, or move on. Red flags are flapping in each of her responses. Ignore them at your risk.Thanks for the advice. I don't like uncertainty.

I went with a Centro girl that I have not seen before. The session was good but she asked for 80 mil after. Like GB, I don't carry much money. I only had 32 K and some changes after paying for the room and she cleaned me up. LOL. It was supposed to be 30 K. I am going to have it in writing next time. I confirmed with text again after.

MoonShot
10-28-22, 15:43
It all depends on how well you use the available information.

My preferred FB girls are active online. They post jokes, links to interesting things and pictures. Not just pictures showing their assets, pictures of activities, places and people. Considering you may have several years of her life available to examine you can get a better idea about her than you'll get in 5 minutes face to face. Add in some chatting and it's not hard to make an informed decision.

However, if you just look at a couple of pics and make a decision, there's a good chance you'll be disappointed.I agree. Most girls use Facebook not just as advertising to mongers but as part of their life. They will post pictures and comments about what they are doing and what they find interesting. So if you review their FB profile, you can get a good sense of who they are. They also post a number of pictures so it is not just a single photoshopped picture. You can also video chat with the girl in many cases.

Girls posting pictures in nice hotels are also telling you that they have some experience as an escort. That could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on what you are looking for.

There are girls who are very active as escorts and there are girls who do it from time to time, the so-called semi-pros.

I tend to be leery about FB girls with a single picture and no postings.

ShadowGuy22
10-28-22, 15:56
Heading to Medellin but looking to visit another country in Latin America and stay there for about 1 month, would love advice from the members of the board and where has a scene worth checking out.

I'm considering the countries below and would appreciate any advice or recommendations on cities:

Mexico.

Costa Rica.

Panama.

Peru.

Ecuador.

Apologies if this is not the thread for this question.

CK465
10-28-22, 16:24
What's offered in a Bridal deal? Is it like GFE? What are the differences?

CK465
10-28-22, 16:25
What's included in the bridal deal? Is it like a GFE or how do they differ? I saw some prepagos advertise this on their profiles. Especially Photoprepagos.Ignore my upcoming duplicate of this question, I didn't see that it went through.

Mtndew704
10-28-22, 16:36
Not a huge fan of the street girls (I usually hit el Centro maybe one or two days per visit). But I agree that short test drives are a great thing. I really don't want to commit to more than an hour or so with a chick I've never been naked with before.Early in the morning is when I have had the most success with the street girls in terms of quality.

CK465
10-28-22, 16:47
Early in the morning is when I have had the most success with the street girls in terms of quality.Sounds like the best way to get rid of morning wood. Can't wait for my trip next year.

Gabacho
10-28-22, 16:48
Which do you guys use? I would need to hit the ATM at the airport for taxi money.

Will be in town this coming mid-week. A cold beer for advice once I get there.

First time in Medellin. It will be hard to beat Cartagena.The bus for 13 k COP is the best option. Ask for the route that drops you off at terminal del norte not San Diego. Then from there you are a 5 minute walk from the carribe metro station and can take the metro / metrocable / buses to anywhere in the city you need to go all without paying a fucking centavo to the rippoff scumbag taxistas.

Hope this helps.

Gabacho
10-28-22, 17:22
Thanks for the advice. I don't like uncertainty.

I went with a Centro girl that I have not seen before. The session was good but she asked for 80 mil after. Like GB, I don't carry much money. I only had 32 K and some changes after paying for the room and she cleaned me up. LOL. It was supposed to be 30 K. I am going to have it in writing next time. I confirmed with text again after.No reason why it should be 80 mil unless if it was BBFS or maybe if it was for an hour or longer session. I know we argued a while back about negotiating BBFS after in the room as opposed to before but you always need to have the pregame chit chat and negotiate a base rate before going up to the room. This base rate should be either 30 k or 40 k por un rato. Always make sure that you have that established Before going upstairs.

JjBee62
10-28-22, 17:50
What's included in the bridal deal? Is it like a GFE or how do they differ? I saw some prepagos advertise this on their profiles. Especially Photoprepagos.Her aunt shows up, hugs you and tells you to treat her niece right.

Then there's cake.

JjBee62
10-28-22, 17:57
Which do you guys use? I would need to hit the ATM at the airport for taxi money.

Will be in town this coming mid-week. A cold beer for advice once I get there.

First time in Medellin. It will be hard to beat Cartagena.Taxi. Confirm the rate with the driver before you get in. Use one of the white taxis. I think the current rate is 85 k, but it's been a few years since I used a taxi. The price includes all tolls, including the tunnel.

BarrioSpinners
10-28-22, 19:39
First time in Colombia, flight booked already for January and I do fancy the street action and casas vibe so I'm planing to stay in El Centro.

I was wondering if it 's already for a gringo with some survival Spanish skills to.

Sit and have drinks between sections in one of the bars around Veracruz OR shall I head to Laureles for a break.

Mongering wise I was first educated in South East Asia so I 'm aware I need to adjust a few things and the above might not be as safe as I would like.

But at the same time I don't really want to spend my time in an Irish / Australian / Italian restaurant bar while I'm in south american.

Also is Parque Botero a good hunting ground apart from the ladies standing out the hotels? Shall I assume they are not pro if I need to do some effort.

To approach them? (Common sense obviously aplies) .

Thanks.