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MiamiSammy
10-28-22, 21:22
Which do you guys use? I would need to hit the ATM at the airport for taxi money.
Will be in town this coming mid-week. A cold beer for advice once I get there.
First time in Medellin. It will be hard to beat Cartagena.Not nearly as hard as you'll understand soon. More women, better prices, and far, far better looking. Paisa girls are the SHIT.
Paisa girls are the SHIT.They certainly are IF you love silicone sisters. Wink.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWVL4B-4pI
As a whole though they are better looking than a lot of other Latinas, like those in areas where they are prone to obesity. It's all in the effort. I'd argue that Venezuelanas are the SHIT, largely because so many lack the $ to buy the ridiculous boobs and asses.
Depending on the flight arrival time the metro and buses from the terminal del norte may not be available. Unless your final destination is the Nutibara or someplace north of it like Bello then the San Diego route (which also leaves more frequently than the Centro route) is going to be a better choise. The Centro airport bus route is 15 to 30 minutes longer depending on traffic because it does not use the tunnel del oriente like the San Diego bus. San Diego is a pretty central location so taxi cost will not be expensive. The fare for either route is still 13,000 pesos.
The bus for 13 k COP is the best option. Ask for the route that drops you off at terminal del norte not San Diego. Then from there you are a 5 minute walk from the carribe metro station and can take the metro / metrocable / buses to anywhere in the city you need to go all without paying a fucking centavo to the rippoff scumbag taxistas.
Hope this helps.
Skinny Gallo
10-29-22, 03:28
One year ago I met her in nueva bar, she sat next to me and I bought her smirnoff or something. I asked if we can go outside because the rooms on site are shit so she proposed this one motel across the street to the left. She was very nice and I repeated with her 2 more times, she always charged me 120 k or 150 k I don't remember exactly. Yesterday she: "quieero verte", I asked "toda noche"? She said: "siiiiiii". Well, how much? She's quoting $150, I'm asking is this in peso 150 k? "No amor Dollars". Colombia changed currency apparently and prices went up.
My first post.
Heading to Medellin but looking to visit another country in Latin America and stay there for about 1 month, would love advice from the members of the board and where has a scene worth checking out.
I'm considering the countries below and would appreciate any advice or recommendations on cities:
Mexico.
Costa Rica.
Panama.
Peru.
Ecuador.
Apologies if this is not the thread for this question.Ecuador Guayaquil, specifically the street scene on Calle 18/ Salinas. And report back here how it is compared to ground zero in medellíand. Be sure to include prices, how long the st rooms allow before knocking, and how the girls (looks and service wise) are there compared to here.
Lucky Nuts
10-29-22, 03:41
Taxi. Confirm the rate with the driver before you get in. Use one of the white taxis. I think the current rate is 85 k, but it's been a few years since I used a taxi. The price includes all tolls, including the tunnel.Yes use the white taxis. Don't screw around with Uber from the airport. And ignore all the guys inside the airport asking if you need a taxi. Walk outside and find the white taxis. I think it's been 90 mil since earlier this year.
Mr Enternational
10-29-22, 04:25
They certainly are IF you love silicone sisters. Wink. I'd argue that Venezuelanas are the SHIT, largely because so many lack the $ to buy the ridiculous boobs and asses.But when they do get the money there is no stopping them. A Venezuelan chick in Bogota was telling me her 18 year old daughter had to get surgery and was going to stay in Chapinero to recuperate. Day of the surgery came and she said everything turned out well. I asked her what the doctors were saying. She sent me a picture. This broad went to get some boobs and a nose job. Here I am thinking something was wrong with her.
The bus for 13 k COP is the best option. Ask for the route that drops you off at terminal del norte not San Diego. Then from there you are a 5 minute walk from the carribe metro station and can take the metro / metrocable / buses to anywhere in the city you need to go all without paying a fucking centavo to the rippoff scumbag taxistas.
Hope this helps.Most guys showing up in Medellin at the airport don't speak enough Spanish to navigate the public transport system and / or don't want to waste any time getting to their destination.
In reality it's still very inexpensive to use a taxi from the airport to Poblado which costs 90 k. It does sound high, but the fare includes the toll costs both ways at approximately 40 K, so the taxista is actually only getting approximately 50 K.
Unless a guy is staying in El Centro at Hotel Nutibarra, which in that case I would recommend the bus at 13 K as the bus station is directly behind the Hotel.
Also, having to manage your luggage if you have a checked bag can be a nightmare as well using public transportation. Climbing up and down the stairs at some of the Metro Stations will not be fun.
When I show up in Medellin, I just fork over the 90 K utilizing a white taxi as I have usually been on a redeye and just want to get to my destination with as few hassles as possible.
The bus for 13 k COP is the best option. Ask for the route that drops you off at terminal del norte not San Diego. Then from there you are a 5 minute walk from the carribe metro station and can take the metro / metrocable / buses to anywhere in the city you need to go all without paying a fucking centavo to the rippoff scumbag taxistas.
Hope this helps.Not the best option for a first time visitor. Not the best option for anyone with luggage. If your traveling light and familiar with the city it's fine. However, it's better to go to Nutibara if you're in El Centro or Laureles, or San Diego Mall if you're in Poblado.
The white taxis at the airport have a set price which is posted on the wall outside of the terminal.
Not the best option for a first time visitor. Not the best option for anyone with luggage. If your traveling light and familiar with the city it's fine. However, it's better to go to Nutibara if you're in El Centro or Laureles, or San Diego Mall if you're in Poblado.
The white taxis at the airport have a set price which is posted on the wall outside of the terminal.Well the last time when I came back from Bucaramanga in September this option worked perfectly for me and I got back to my apartment in Santo Domingo Savio II fast and efficiently and for like only 16 k all the way from the airport.
The reason I said take the route that goes to terminal del Norte as opposed to Nutibara or San Diego is because he didn't specify where exactly he was going. The terminal del Norte bus drops you off right there you just walk across the pedestrian bridge and thru the bus station and the other pedestrian Bridge and bam you are at the metro and can go anywhere you want for under 3 k COP.
Not the best option for a first time visitor. Not the best option for anyone with luggage. If your traveling light and familiar with the city it's fine. However, it's better to go to Nutibara if you're in El Centro or Laureles, or San Diego Mall if you're in Poblado.
The white taxis at the airport have a set price which is posted on the wall outside of the terminal.Also I hold a grudge against taxis. With the exception of mototaxis I fucking hate taxistas.
Andersson25
10-29-22, 14:25
First time in south america for me soon as well, can't wait. I'm trying to do my homework now before going. These are my comments on below, just based on what I learned online (no own experience yet): El centro is not the best place to stay, shady and empty after dark. It is not a bad idea to bring a date when you go out to drink beer, not so many single guys go out alone (I love going out alone in Thailand and talk to as many sweet young girls as possible in one night) to my understanding you will stand out even more from the crowd if you go out to drink alone, I will look like a fuckng gringoissmo anyway.
I know some spanish so I was thinking about staying in Laureles instead of touristy Poblado but I am starting to change mind, Poblado is more expensive but prices on beer, food and chicas are still ridiculously affordable. Also Poblado seem to attract plenty of semi-pros at night.
Happy mongering, let us know how it goes.
First time in Colombia, flight booked already for January and I do fancy the street action and casas vibe so I'm planing to stay in El Centro.
I was wondering if it 's already for a gringo with some survival Spanish skills to.
Sit and have drinks between sections in one of the bars around Veracruz OR shall I head to Laureles for a break.
Mongering wise I was first educated in South East Asia so I 'm aware I need to adjust a few things and the above might not be as safe as I would like.
But at the same time I don't really want to spend my time in an Irish / Australian / Italian restaurant bar while I'm in south american.
Also is Parque Botero a good hunting ground apart from the ladies standing out the hotels? Shall I assume they are not pro if I need to do some effort.
To approach them? (Common sense obviously aplies) .
Thanks.
Most guys showing up in Medellin at the airport don't speak enough Spanish to navigate the public transport system and / or don't want to waste any time getting to their destination.
In reality it's still very inexpensive to use a taxi from the airport to Poblado which costs 90 k. It does sound high, but the fare includes the toll costs both ways at approximately 40 K, so the taxista is actually only getting approximately 50 K.
Unless a guy is staying in El Centro at Hotel Nutibarra, which in that case I would recommend the bus at 13 K as the bus station is directly behind the Hotel.
Also, having to manage your luggage if you have a checked bag can be a nightmare as well using public transportation. Climbing up and down the stairs at some of the Metro Stations will not be fun.
When I show up in Medellin, I just fork over the 90 K utilizing a white taxi as I have usually been on a redeye and just want to get to my destination with as few hassles as possible.I agree. If you don't speak Spanish and you have luggage, it is best to just pay 90 k ($19) and use the white taxis which will take you straight to your hotel. It is a set price and you don't have to negotiate. After that flight, I am tired and I just want to get to the hotel ASAP without any hassle. Taking the bus, then getting into a taxi to your hotel is more of a hassle.
Banco Davivienda did not charge a fee to withdraw pesos. I was surprised. I have a Charles Schwab ATM card so I would have gotten reimbursed but in my bank statement, I did not see any fees reimbursed for Davivienda and on the receipt it did not show any fees charged. So unless Schwab made a mistake, there was no fees charged at Davivienda. I got reimbursed for withdraws from the other banks I used. Davivienda also allowed me to take out 1,200 mil pesos at a time which is nice. The limits at the other banks I used were lower.
No reason why it should be 80 mil unless if it was BBFS or maybe if it was for an hour or longer session. I know we argued a while back about negotiating BBFS after in the room as opposed to before but you always need to have the pregame chit chat and negotiate a base rate before going up to the room. This base rate should be either 30 k or 40 k por un rato. Always make sure that you have that established Before going upstairs.The girl changed the price. She was doing it to squeeze more money out of me. I think that is why she accepted that I don't have more money. I did have more but I just played dumb to make her think she got all my money. This happened to me more than once but it usually was for far less. Sometimes I just paid them, sometimes I argued with them just to see what happened. And some of them are not even strangers. I am used to pay 50 mil and up in El Centro since before pandemic. There were more FOBs then and I stayed closer. But I hear you, next time confirm again in the hotel.
I think we were talking about different context. I know your approach works for you but you are more experienced and fluent in Spanish. You do not encounter the situations that mere mortal like me encounter.
Not on your list, but Brasil would be way better than any of those.
Heading to Medellin but looking to visit another country in Latin America and stay there for about 1 month, would love advice from the members of the board and where has a scene worth checking out.
I'm considering the countries below and would appreciate any advice or recommendations on cities:
Mexico.
Costa Rica.
Panama.
Peru.
Ecuador.
Apologies if this is not the thread for this question.
One year ago I met her in nueva bar, she sat next to me and I bought her smirnoff or something. I asked if we can go outside because the rooms on site are shit so she proposed this one motel across the street to the left. She was very nice and I repeated with her 2 more times, she always charged me 120 k or 150 k I don't remember exactly. Yesterday she: "quieero verte", I asked "toda noche"? She said: "siiiiiii". Well, how much? She's quoting $150, I'm asking is this in peso 150 k? "No amor Dollars". Colombia changed currency apparently and prices went up.
My first post.Naw that chica has just found a few suckers in the past year since you first met her. A chica I've known for years charges 500 k min now just for 3-4 hours max. She wasn't anywhere near that price point years ago.
BlueChange
10-29-22, 17:44
Not on your list, but Brasil would be way better than any of those.I second this!!
I would put Brazil ahead of Colombia IF it wasn't soo expensive just to get there. But that said it NEEDS to be your next visit.
BlueChange
10-29-22, 17:48
Yes use the white taxis. Don't screw around with Uber from the airport. And ignore all the guys inside the airport asking if you need a taxi. Walk outside and find the white taxis. I think it's been 90 mil since earlier this year.THIS! Always white taxi, If you don't have cash when you arrive go upstairs to depatures and hit the Green Servicbanc ATM. It's stress freee this way for sure.
I second this!!
I would put Brazil ahead of Colombia IF it wasn't soo expensive just to get there. But that said it NEEDS to be your next visit.The flights to Brazil are ridiculous, does anyone know why they are so expensive?
… buses to anywhere in the city you need to go all without paying a fucking centavo to the rippoff scumbag taxistas.
Hope this helps.
Also I hold a grudge against taxis. With the exception of mototaxis I fucking hate taxistas.Hmmm never would have guessed that, Lol.
Banco Davivienda did not charge a fee to withdraw pesos. I was surprised. I have a Charles Schwab ATM card so I would have gotten reimbursed but in my bank statement, I did not see any fees reimbursed for Davivienda and on the receipt it did not show any fees charged. So unless Schwab made a mistake, there was no fees charged at Davivienda. I got reimbursed for withdraws from the other banks I used. Davivienda also allowed me to take out 1,200 mil pesos at a time which is nice. The limits at the other banks I used were lower.I just reviewed my Schwab statement and I see that I was able to withdraw US $450 in pesos at the Davivienda ATM. That is 2150 mil that I withdrew in a single transaction at that ATM. That's a lot of pesos and you don't have to go back for a while. I don't like I found another bank ATM that allowed me to withdraw so much pesos, and there was no bank fee for the transaction.
BenTiger07
10-29-22, 22:53
Hey Guys,
I plan to be in Colombia for 6+ months every year. If there are any other longterm guys that would like to meet, let me know. Obviously, I'm mostly here for the ladies. But I don't mind meeting like-minded guys. I can start a whatsapp group of people like that (if there's a whatsapp group like that already, let me know).
I just reviewed my Schwab statement and I see that I was able to withdraw US $450 in pesos at the Davivienda ATM. That is 2150 mil that I withdrew in a single transaction at that ATM. That's a lot of pesos and you don't have to go back for a while. I don't like I found another bank ATM that allowed me to withdraw so much pesos, and there was no bank fee for the transaction.I can report that Davivienda ATM at SantaFe Mall allows me to withdraw 2 million pesos per transaction using my Chase debit card, but it forces me to accept their 7-8% markup in conversion rate. If I decline the conversion, the transaction cancels due to an "error".
I second this!!
I would put Brazil ahead of Colombia IF it wasn't soo expensive just to get there. But that said it NEEDS to be your next visit.Not just the $ but also the flight time. From where I live (Chicago), I need to stay >= two weeks to make the overnight flight worth it. I can no longer sleep on planes, so I'm a mess when I arrive.
Hmmm never would have guessed that, Lol.A lot of them are dishonest and will purposely drive stupid routes to run up the meter and charge you more and also on more than one occasion they have tried to give me counterfeit bills for change.
The bus for 13 k COP is the best option. Ask for the route that drops you off at terminal del norte not San Diego. Then from there you are a 5 minute walk from the carribe metro station and can take the metro / metrocable / buses to anywhere in the city you need to go all without paying a fucking centavo to the rippoff scumbag taxistas.
Hope this helps.I do not suggest this as a first timer. The savings is minimal (10 as you'll need taxi after the bus)), it will take you longer to get to your hotel / airbnb, and Medellin is a large and (at times) dangerous city. The stress isn't worth it at all.
A lot of them are dishonest and will purposely drive stupid routes to run up the meter and charge you more and also on more than one occasion they have tried to give me counterfeit bills for change.These are problems with easy solutions.
1. Know where you're going. You've got the address, you've got a phone. It's simple to track your progress and stop the driver if he's going the wrong direction. Usually, when a driver isn't taking the most direct route they're avoiding traffic or construction. I drive myself now and several of the shortcuts I learned from taxistas.
2. Don't pay with large bills. You should be using bills so you're owed 5 k or less in change. Use your 50 k bills at the pharmacy, restaurants and grocery stores. Always use only 50 k notes in those places and save your small bills for taxis.
You failed to mention the 2 biggest ripoffs with Medellin taxis.
1. Meter is nor reset. You should always check the meter as soon as you get in the car. I'm not sure what the current start value is, but it's around 3600. If that's not what the meter reads, point it out and tell him to reset it.
2. The tampered meter. Some taxis have an altered meter which either accumulates faster, or can be jumped to a higher number. Not much you can do about this, unless you frequently make the same trip. Pay attention to the meter.
A lot of them are dishonest and will purposely drive stupid routes to run up the meter and charge you more and also on more than one occasion they have tried to give me counterfeit bills for change.Interesting that you have had these type of experiences with them. Generally speaking I have found the yellow taxi drivers at least 95% of the time to be very professional, courteous, and honest. However some of the exceptions include Holidays when there is a shortage of drivers and some will ask where your going and give you a fixed / inflated price usually at least double what the meter would be. Also at Lleras some of the drivers will screw around with gringos either asking for a fixed amount or driving an indirect route to their destination.
As far as counterfeit bills, well I've yet to get one, but the fares are so cheap, typically under 20 K except from the airport of course, so if they even make counterfeit bills of the smaller denominations which doesn't make sense, than so be it.
I think a bigger issue which nobody has mentioned are the drivers that have somehow tampered with the meters, as sometimes a fare seems way higher than it should be.
Generally speaking, the yellow taxis that are not independents, meaning they specifically work out of a location such as the EXITO in Poblado which is operated by "Flota Bernal" will not fuck with the customers as you mentioned. If they did, they would loose their concession at this type of venue.
And at the end of the day, the taxi's are so inexpensive it's kind of a joke. A lot of times I will travel from Poblado to Laureles and it's like between $ 3-4 USD so no big deal.
NapataJohn
10-30-22, 01:45
Anyone have any recent experiences in Gustos as to how much is takeout etc.
Salinas is earthy. I like it. Day trips to the beach don't hurt.
Ecuador Guayaquil, specifically the street scene on Calle 18/ Salinas. And report back here how it is compared to ground zero in medelland. Be sure to include prices, how long the st rooms allow before knocking, and how the girls (looks and service wise) are there compared to here.
There is an app for that. It's called GPS. You can even set it to speak Spanish so your driver can't pretend he didn't understand. I hate taxis by the way.
A lot of them are dishonest and will purposely drive stupid routes to run up the meter and charge you more and also on more than one occasion they have tried to give me counterfeit bills for change.
That sucks, I am going to investigate this tomorrow. Probably it is related to the USA Card issuer but I will know for sure tomorrow.
Hey Guys,
I plan to be in Colombia for 6+ months every year. If there are any other longterm guys that would like to meet, let me know. Obviously, I'm mostly here for the ladies. But I don't mind meeting like-minded guys. I can start a whatsapp group of people like that (if there's a whatsapp group like that already, let me know).
I can report that Davivienda ATM at SantaFe Mall allows me to withdraw 2 million pesos per transaction using my Chase debit card, but it forces me to accept their 7-8% markup in conversion rate. If I decline the conversion, the transaction cancels due to an "error".
This has been covered many times but it keeps coming up because there is some sort of religious obsession with Schwab. Once more for emphasis, Davivienda (among other Colombia banks) does not charge foreign transaction or ATM withdrawal fees. If you have ATM cards that also don't charge withdrawal or foreign transaction fees then you are good to go. When I say "does not charge" I am not referring to reimbursement of charged fees or hidden fees such as minimum balance requirements. Thank goodness this is not nearly as complicated as it would appear by reading the many long threads about it.
I just reviewed my Schwab statement and I see that I was able to withdraw US $450 in pesos at the Davivienda ATM. That is 2150 mil that I withdrew in a single transaction at that ATM. That's a lot of pesos and you don't have to go back for a while. I don't like I found another bank ATM that allowed me to withdraw so much pesos, and there was no bank fee for the transaction.
It's a combination of recently increased fuel costs, USA Dollar conversion rates, and political instability because of the upcoming Brazil election.
The flights to Brazil are ridiculous, does anyone know why they are so expensive?
FYI there are ATMs on every level of the airport except the top floor food court. I don't think many visitors use the food court. It's all local fast food, bleh.
THIS! Always white taxi, If you don't have cash when you arrive go upstairs to depatures and hit the Green Servicbanc ATM. It's stress freee this way for sure.
Hmmm never would have guessed that, Lol.Prob got overcharged 2 kcop one rainy night in Medellin.
FlowState985
10-30-22, 05:58
Hey Guys,
I plan to be in Colombia for 6+ months every year. If there are any other longterm guys that would like to meet, let me know. Obviously, I'm mostly here for the ladies. But I don't mind meeting like-minded guys. I can start a whatsapp group of people like that (if there's a whatsapp group like that already, let me know).
I can report that Davivienda ATM at SantaFe Mall allows me to withdraw 2 million pesos per transaction using my Chase debit card, but it forces me to accept their 7-8% markup in conversion rate. If I decline the conversion, the transaction cancels due to an "error".Use Colpatria or ScotiaBank, 7-8% is high.
I do not suggest this as a first timer. The savings is minimal (10 as you'll need taxi after the bus)), it will take you longer to get to your hotel / airbnb, and Medellin is a large and (at times) dangerous city. The stress isn't worth it at all.It's pretty easy if one switches to taxi after bus. There are locals at San Diego mall help handling luggage and get it to taxi, You can have 10 dinners like this with the money saved. If one travels light, it is not a bad suggestion to take metro, not everyone is in a rush, and some people are looking for local experience.
...El centro is not the best place to stay, shady and empty after dark. It is not a bad idea to bring a date when you go out to drink beer, not so many single guys go out alone ... It is very lively at night actually. It is just for average locals while El Poblado is for more affluent locals and foreigners. The business and tourist areas will be empty during night time. I also don't think you want to bring a date with you to have beer there. You will see hookers with clients more often in nicer restaurants in El Poblado but I have never seen them in El Centro or elsewhere.
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I know some spanish so I was thinking about staying in Laureles instead of touristy Poblado but I am starting to change mind, Poblado is more expensive but prices on beer, food and chicas are still ridiculously affordable. Also Poblado seem to attract plenty of semi-pros at night....I don't think you will find more semi-pros there. Pobaldo has more and better restaurants but you also see hookers with clients there more often. Restaurant like Relato has a poster says no sexual tourism LOL. You can find more nicer western style cafes with espresso machine easier but the same can be said about Laureles too. Laureles has more local cheaper food too. I only know a handful of places with espresso machine in El Centro.
I do not suggest this as a first timer. The savings is minimal (10 as you'll need taxi after the bus)), it will take you longer to get to your hotel / airbnb, and Medellin is a large and (at times) dangerous city. The stress isn't worth it at all.The savings is not minimal, the savings is about $75 mil COP. And no you do not need to take a taxi after the bus. When I used to stay in Centro I would take the nutibara route and then walk from behind the nutibara hotel up to Av. Oriental and then hang a right and walk down to my hotel near the Exito San Antonio. So please do enlighten me where I needed to take a taxi after the bus??
As to the money being saved, I don't know how you roll but for me I can do quite a bit with $75 mil COP. That's pretty much 2 SWers in Veracruz Church area, it can also be 2 days of hotel at the old place I used to stay at on el palo con el huevo. It can be numerous lunches and dinners (there's a place called Restaurant Pakistan that has bandeja lunches including soup and lemonade for $9 mil). If you smoke cigarettes, $75 k can buy 12 packs and a media of Starlite cigarettes. So please do tell me again how the savings is minimal?
It is very lively at night actually. It is just for average locals while El Poblado is for more affluent locals and foreigners. The business and tourist areas will be empty during night time. I also don't think you want to bring a date with you to have beer there. You will see hookers with clients more often in nicer restaurants in El Poblado but I have never seen them in El Centro or elsewhere.I think it depends on what he means by night. Now if it's like 7-10 pm yes centro is still alive with a lot of action. Now if you go out say at 3 am, it is mostly dead with only a few fat ugly old bitches hanging out on Cra 53 and it's really not worth going out at that time, as most everything is all closed up and there's a lot of homeless people and drug addicts out and about. And yes I have gone out there at 3 am, and no I wouldn't recommend it.
Nil Admirari
10-30-22, 15:38
It's pretty easy if one switches to taxi after bus. There are locals at San Diego mall help handling luggage and get it to taxi, You can have 10 dinners like this with the money saved. If one travels light, it is not a bad suggestion to take metro, not everyone is in a rush, and some people are looking for local experience.
Although I usually opt for a white taxi after a long flight, there is an overlooked price/convenience option between taking a taxi and a bus.The following is a reedit of my post from last July when the topic of airport transport also elicited some back and forth on this forum:
Another option (which I used once before the pandemic) is a "colectivo" (shared taxi or minivan--4 or so passengers), which leave from a spot near the white taxi stand. The price back then was 30 thousand pesos, but no doubt has increased somewhat since then. The driver drops you at the San Diego Mall, at the base of the road from the airport tunnel. There are taxis nearby to get you to your destination, though I negotiated with the colectivo driver to take me to Laureles for around the standard taxi rate.
Here's a website with comparative info on all of the Airport-Medellin travel options. If you keep scrolling down, you'll find detailed info on each option, with prices in both pesos and dollars, albeit a bit out of date.
https://thenomadvisor.com/get-to-medellin-from-the-airport/
Latin Bound
10-30-22, 16:17
On the previous idea, I will share an idea I've used. While on the plane or the entry line, I ask who is going to use a ride to the city and if they would like to split a cab fare. So far, it has worked well.
This has been covered many times but it keeps coming up because there is some sort of religious obsession with Schwab. Once more for emphasis, Davivienda (among other Colombia banks) does not charge foreign transaction or ATM withdrawal fees. If you have ATM cards that also don't charge withdrawal or foreign transaction fees then you are good to go. When I say "does not charge" I am not referring to reimbursement of charged fees or hidden fees such as minimum balance requirements. Thank goodness this is not nearly as complicated as it would appear by reading the many long threads about it.It sounds like the person is answering yes when it asks if he wants to check his balance, which always comes back with an error.
It's a combination of recently increased fuel costs, USA Dollar conversion rates, and political instability because of the upcoming Brazil election.Not to mention service disruptions from Covid, along with pilot shortages.
Although I've already bought tickets, I'm tracking flights to Medellin and Bogota. Every day the price fluctuates wildly. At least once the flight became "no longer available" for 2 days.
Anyone have any recent experiences in Gustos as to how much is takeout etc.5 years ago I use to have to go at least once a trip. Even up until 3 years ago.
Nowadays it's horrible with centro de type talent trying to make a score. And some fat Venezuelans as well. They'll quote in usd starting at 300 and you can bargain from there.
It's become the CLásicos of medellin. CLásicos is a bar in sosua.
Last time I went was a year ago. And just like the rest of poblado it's going downhill real fast.
BlueChange
10-30-22, 18:46
FYI there are ATMs on every level of the airport except the top floor food court. I don't think many visitors use the food court. It's all local fast food, bleh.Yes but say this to go upstairs to avoid the line of all the other people trying to get cash from arrivals.
Anyone have any recent experiences in Gustos as to how much is takeout etc.Gustos is a rip off, don't even bother with it. Equal or better quality can be had in the park or at the high end strip clubs for way less cost.
That is exactly right. The lines can get really long when several flights arrive at the same time. It's the last thing you want after a long time on the immigration line. You can skip the ATMs altogether by calling an uber or didi and paying with a credit card. I've never seen their fares exceed the taxi rate from the airport.
Yes but say this to go upstairs to avoid the line of all the other people trying to get cash from arrivals.
My friend took two gun shots to his upper and lower back when a robbery attempt was made in el poblado around 2 am on Saturday night. Details are still sparse but he was shot as he ran away from the assailants. Not sure if the robbers were successful in taking anything but please guys just comply with any demands. My friend is lucky to be alive.
I think it depends on what he means by night. Now if it's like 7-10 pm yes centro is still alive with a lot of action. Now if you go out say at 3 am, it is mostly dead with only a few fat ugly old bitches hanging out on Cra 53 and it's really not worth going out at that time, as most everything is all closed up and there's a lot of homeless people and drug addicts out and about. ...I go to El Centro for food and other stuff. I monger only when I see an opportunity, like when I see a model type body that is slender, long legs, above average face, and young, LOL. Some food vendor come out after 8 PM so that is the starting time from their perspective, and they close after 2 AM or so.
... And yes I have gone out there at 3 am, and no I wouldn't recommend it.Have you been robbed? I was almost robbed the one night when I made this loop around midnight.
First I went to the empanada stand which has the hottest sauce that I know in Colombia, and that makes their empanada the best. The fried chicken would be my first choice, but they typically has this night off. The empanada stand wasn't open, so I went to Berrio station and saw maybe 100 policemen or solders there doing some kind of training. This is around 11:30 PM. No food here so I was thinking going to Mercado de La Playa. But I soon realized they were closed at this time. Next was to a thin crust pizza stand that I know. The pizza is as good as any I have tried in Medellin. On my way there, I saw a moto with 2 guys wearing helmet, riding too slow and too close to the sidewalk. They must have picked me as their target because the moto stopped at about 30 meters before me and the rider came down to wait and maybe to ambush me. I immediately ran across the street and they both left after they saw me ran away. That is why I was sure they tried to rob me. The thick red line area is a good spot for them because it is easy to make escape and the sidewalk is dark because of the large trees.
The flights to Brazil are ridiculous, does anyone know why they are so expensive?I just checked and they are that expensive compare to before. It always have fluctuated widely. LAX to GRU still still under 1000 and LAX to MDE is only about 100 cheaper. For some reason it is much more expensive from ORD.
BlueChange
10-30-22, 22:12
Has anyone tried to connect the new iPhone 14 to Claro for example? These new US version of these phones only have esims, not a physical sim. I've never had a problem with my iPhone 11. I want to make sure it works before getting an upgrade and going back to Colombia.No Problem EXCEPT currently Movistar is the only esim carrier in Colombia. That will change in the years to come but had to use movistar to connect to esim. The process is super fast and you can have multiple lines on one phone just have to switch it in settings.
BlueChange
10-30-22, 22:17
The flights to Brazil are ridiculous, does anyone know why they are so expensive?Because the map is deceiving! The truth is, NY to Med is like 2372 miles.
From NY to Rio its 4,818 More then DOUBLE!!
To go from Bogota to Rio it is like 2827 miles!
Brazil, and Rio specificly is MASSIVE!
So add double the fuel, time, crew THEN Tack on all the inflation stuff and yeah its a lot bigger.
I go to El Centro for food and other stuff. I monger only when I see an opportunity, like when I see a model type body that is slender, long legs, above average face, and young, LOL. Some food vendor come out after 8 PM so that is the starting time from their perspective, and they close after 2 AM or so.
Have you been robbed? I was almost robbed the one night when I made this loop around midnight.
First I went to the empanada stand which has the hottest sauce that I know in Colombia, and that makes their empanada the best. The fried chicken would be my first choice, but they typically has this night off. The empanada stand wasn't open, so I went to Berrio station and saw maybe 100 policemen or solders there doing some kind of training. This is around 11:30 PM. No food here so I was thinking going to Mercado de La Playa. But I soon realized they were closed at this time. Next was to a thin crust pizza stand that I know. The pizza is as good as any I have tried in Medellin. On my way there, I saw a moto with 2 guys wearing helmet, riding too slow and too close to the sidewalk. They must have picked me as their target because the moto stopped at about 30 meters before me and the rider came down to wait and maybe to ambush me. I immediately ran across the street and they both left after they saw me ran away. That is why I was sure they tried to rob me. The thick red line area is a good spot for them because it is easy to make escape and the sidewalk is dark because of the large trees.Gracias a Dios I was not robbed. I have been shook down by cops in Bogota one time tho but never in Medellin. And as far as anyone ever pulling a gun or knife on me and trying to rob me like that it has never happened to me, not at 3 am or 3 pm not in Medellin not in Cali, not in Tijuana or DF either.
Although one time in Mexico City I was walking down anillo de circunvalacion looking for street girls when a homeless looking dude came up to me and asked for a moneda to which I replied I didn't have a moneda, he then said "dame una moneda guero o te voy a robar de todo" and to that I replied "robame pues puto me vale madre" and then he actually backed off and I lost sight of him behind me.
THIS! Always white taxi, If you don't have cash when you arrive go upstairs to depatures and hit the Green Servicbanc ATM. It's stress freee this way for sure.The best alternative for getting from the airport depends on, in approximately this order:
1) Your level of Spanish.
2) The time of arrival.
3) Your previous travelling experience.
4) The precise destination.
5) The size of your huevos, and.
6) Your budget.
That is exactly right. The lines can get really long when several flights arrive at the same time. It's the last thing you want after a long time on the immigration line. You can skip the ATMs altogether by calling an uber or didi and paying with a credit card. I've never seen their fares exceed the taxi rate from the airport.If you have someone arranged to pick you up at the airport you might want to have them pick you up upstairs on the departure level. Less traffic.
ShadowGuy22
10-31-22, 03:41
The only reason Brazil is not on my list is because I was sticking to Spanish speaking countries as I'm working on my Spanish at the moment. I would be interested in your next best option though.
Not on your list, but Brasil would be way better than any of those.
Dcrist0527
10-31-22, 14:33
Gustos is a rip off, don't even bother with it. Equal or better quality can be had in the park or at the high end strip clubs for way less cost.I'm in a very small minority here. Admittedly, I'm not the most price conscious monger on this board. But, I have not and will not pay 300 US dollars either. I was at Gustos this past Friday and Saturday night. I thought the talent was better than my last few visits there. Friday night I hooked up with a girl I knew from previous visits. Saturday night, I met someone new. I would put both at 8. 5. And neither were the hottest girls in there. As far as looks, I love Gustos. A couple months ago, I saw the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in person there. No joke. There are obvious down sides. Drinks are expensive. The girls definitely charge a premium price. And the place is full of sharks. There are girls that will ask for 500 USD. But it all comes down to what you are hunting. Some guys get a thrill over finding a girl that will do what they want for 40.000 pesos. That's not me. Gustos gives me the opportunity to feel the girl out over a couple drinks. I've found that spending a bit of time with them leads to a better session. And for those cost-conscious mongers, it definitely seems to affect the starting price. As I said, I've had girls that I just approach and they start negotiations between 250 and 300 USD. I've never had a girl that I've had two drinks with suggest a price that high. Typically, they start at 600.000 pesos. From there I negotiate the cost down a bit and the time together up a bit. Both girls I had this week settled on 400.000 pesos and a taxi home. And both girls stayed until about 8 AM the next morning.
I say this a lot and it's true. I'm one of the least attractive guys in the bar. And I'm not a guy that does a lot of painful negotiations. If a girl quotes me something crazy, I move on. There's no sense in trying to get her down to half her asking price. It's counter-productive. But if I can bring in these girls for significantly less than some of what I've read on this board, anyone can.
DonCarlos1234
10-31-22, 18:53
Because the map is deceiving! The truth is, NY to Med is like 2372 miles.
From NY to Rio its 4,818 More then DOUBLE!!
To go from Bogota to Rio it is like 2827 miles!
Brazil, and Rio specificly is MASSIVE!
So add double the fuel, time, crew THEN Tack on all the inflation stuff and yeah its a lot bigger.$500 round trip to Brazil.
I took one for the team today and made a couple of test withdrawals from my usual Davivienda ATM. The ATM behaved as always. It offered a conversion rate of 4500 or so that I declined. The conversion rate for my withdrawal worked out to 4821. As a further test, I tried a second withdrawal from an account with an insufficient balance. The ATM returned the expected insufficient balance notification.
I have a personal driver Moses that I use to get from the airport to Laureles, been using him for years. If anyone needs his number just let me know.
The best alternative for getting from the airport depends on, in approximately this order:
1) Your level of Spanish.
2) The time of arrival.
3) Your previous travelling experience.
4) The precise destination.
5) The size of your huevos, and.
6) Your budget.
The only reason Brazil is not on my list is because I was sticking to Spanish speaking countries as I'm working on my Spanish at the moment. I would be interested in your next best option though.If you've never been to Peru, I'the probably choose that. The mongering isn't great, but it's a fantastic tourist destination.
John Clayton
11-01-22, 00:04
...but it's a fantastic tourist destination.I don't agree with that. Look up "la garua".
NapataJohn
11-01-22, 00:07
Gustos is a rip off, don't even bother with it. Equal or better quality can be had in the park or at the high end strip clubs for way less cost.Thanks I have visited Gustos before and liked it for the ambience.
Mr Enternational
11-01-22, 01:36
Gustos gives me the opportunity to feel the girl out over a couple drinks. I've found that spending a bit of time with them leads to a better session.How many times did you not spend time with a chick from Gustos and it led to bad sessions before you started spending time with them and realizing it leads to a better session?
Elvis 2008
11-01-22, 01:53
Heading to Medellin but looking to visit another country in Latin America and stay there for about 1 month, would love advice from the members of the board and where has a scene worth checking out.
I'm considering the countries below and would appreciate any advice or recommendations on cities:
Mexico.
Costa Rica..You know what cracks me up about this list is that if you go to all these countries, and I have been to all but CR, you will find the best looking women in those places are Colombian or Venezuelan and of course, for those kinds of women, you should just go to Colombia.
Mexico is the exception. There are a number of Mexican women that can hold their own against the Colombians.
One guys said it best about Peru. The women are nice and horny as shit but they max out looks wise at a 7.
The only other Latin countries worth going to women wise that break the Colombian monopoly are Paraguay, Argentina, and Brazil, and the guys who monger in Argentina will say their favorite women in Argentina are often from Paraguay. That said, I would hit up Argentina more than going to the source in Paraguay. It is just too damned hard to get to. Hope that helps.
I don't agree with that. Look up "la garua".Yes Lima, at certain times of year doesn't get a lot of sunshine. Added to that, the good weather season in the highlands (machu Picchu, Cuzco) doesn't really coincide with the good weather season in Lima. That said, it's sort of a must-see destination for avid travelers.
Mr Enternational
11-01-22, 03:11
I don't agree with that. Look up "la garua".I looked it up and have no idea what I was supposed to see. A song from 1943?
I agree with Combo. Peru is great. I am here right now for the more than 100th time. I brought my girlfriend to the salon where I get my nails done for a treat. Today she told me that she wanted to try anal but it did not work out. She said that we would need to try it more often until it can finally go in. People talk about Brazil, but in my experience just as many chicks here like anal. I do not want to blow up my spot, but this place is just as much a non-pro heaven for me as Colombia. Maybe it does not get as much attention because the chicks here are not glitzy and are very conservative (you are not going to see chicks with plastic surgery and chicks showing their ass on the internet and I do not think I know any Peruvian chicks with tattoos), but they are some of the biggest freaks on the planet. Do they even sell condoms here? Because I can not remember a Peruana asking me to use one. And one chick that I have been messing with for almost 10 years used to always want us to swing and go to orgies before she got married and moved to Europe. I still see her when she is here on vacation though and she invites me to Europe but I ain't going there.
Anyway, the second best thing I have seen on the planet is Machu Picchu. I have stayed a few nights on Lake "Titty"caca. I did not realize nobody (Americans) had ever heard of the Nazca Lines until I visited and showed people my pictures. Next year I am going to a jungle retreat to do some ayahuasca so I can meet god and tell him what a great time I am having on this wonderful planet.
Yes Lima, at certain times of year doesn't get a lot of sunshine. Added to that, the good weather season in the highlands (machu Picchu, Cuzco) doesn't really coincide with the good weather season in Lima. That said, it's sort of a must-see destination for avid travelers.I have been to every Spanish speaking country in South América, including Perú three times. Perú is my least favorite, followed closely by Chile. Perú I always get the raging shits no matter what I do, and it can be very sketchy. Whereas, Chile (I am there now on visit #6) just bores the snot out of me. And Lima has some good hookers at times but I still can't stand it. If Perú is your choice, check out Trujillo.
DonCarlos1234
11-01-22, 04:31
. Both girls I had this week settled on 400.000 pesos and a taxi home. And both girls stayed until about 8 AM the next morning.
I say this a lot and it's true. I'm one of the least attractive guys in the bar. And I'm not a guy that does a lot of painful negotiations. If a girl quotes me something crazy, I move on. There's no sense in trying to get her down to half her asking price. It's counter-productive. But if I can bring in these girls for significantly less than some of what I've read on this board, anyone can.You seem level headed / reasonable about your approach and your experience. I want to try Gustos (for the first time) I will need a wingman or use the translator. Yes it can be done in a loud nightclub.
I have done this a lot. So it could save me a trip to La Isla or the SA girls. Also staying 2 blocks away at the "Art House" for the 1st time. Anyone else ever stay there?
Does anyone go to Gustos Sunday or Thursday?
I'm in a very small minority here. Admittedly, I'm not the most price conscious monger on this board. But, I have not and will not pay 300 US dollars either. I was at Gustos this past Friday and Saturday night. I thought the talent was better than my last few visits there. Friday night I hooked up with a girl I knew from previous visits. Saturday night, I met someone new. I would put both at 8. 5. And neither were the hottest girls in there. As far as looks, I love Gustos. A couple months ago, I saw the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in person there. No joke. There are obvious down sides. Drinks are expensive. The girls definitely charge a premium price. And the place is full of sharks. There are girls that will ask for 500 USD. But it all comes down to what you are hunting. Some guys get a thrill over finding a girl that will do what they want for 40.000 pesos. That's not me. Gustos gives me the opportunity to feel the girl out over a couple drinks. I've found that spending a bit of time with them leads to a better session. And for those cost-conscious mongers, it definitely seems to affect the starting price. As I said, I've had girls that I just approach and they start negotiations between 250 and 300 USD. I've never had a girl that I've had two drinks with suggest a price that high. Typically, they start at 600.000 pesos. From there I negotiate the cost down a bit and the time together up a bit. Both girls I had this week settled on 400.000 pesos and a taxi home. And both girls stayed until about 8 AM the next morning.
I say this a lot and it's true. I'm one of the least attractive guys in the bar. And I'm not a guy that does a lot of painful negotiations. If a girl quotes me something crazy, I move on. There's no sense in trying to get her down to half her asking price. It's counter-productive. But if I can bring in these girls for significantly less than some of what I've read on this board, anyone can.I'd be curious to see the quality you are getting for 400 k TLN + taxi from Gustos.
MiamiSammy
11-01-22, 15:27
I'm in a very small minority here. Admittedly, I'm not the most price conscious monger on this board. But, I have not and will not pay 300 US dollars either. I was at Gustos this past Friday and Saturday night. I thought the talent was better than my last few visits there. Friday night I hooked up with a girl I knew from previous visits. Saturday night, I met someone new. I would put both at 8. 5. And neither were the hottest girls in there. As far as looks, I love Gustos. A couple months ago, I saw the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in person there. No joke. There are obvious down sides. Drinks are expensive. The girls definitely charge a premium price. And the place is full of sharks. There are girls that will ask for 500 USD. But it all comes down to what you are hunting. Some guys get a thrill over finding a girl that will do what they want for 40.000 pesos. That's not me. Gustos gives me the opportunity to feel the girl out over a couple drinks. I've found that spending a bit of time with them leads to a better session. And for those cost-conscious mongers, it definitely seems to affect the starting price. As I said, I've had girls that I just approach and they start negotiations between 250 and 300 USD. I've never had a girl that I've had two drinks with suggest a price that high. Typically, they start at 600.000 pesos. From there I negotiate the cost down a bit and the time together up a bit. Both girls I had this week settled on 400.000 pesos and a taxi home. And both girls stayed until about 8 AM the next morning.
I say this a lot and it's true. I'm one of the least attractive guys in the bar. And I'm not a guy that does a lot of painful negotiations. If a girl quotes me something crazy, I move on. There's no sense in trying to get her down to half her asking price. It's counter-productive. But if I can bring in these girls for significantly less than some of what I've read on this board, anyone can.Strip clubs are not only a ripoff, but dangerous as well. Best place in Medellin to have something slipped in your drink. The real value in Medellin mongering is the casas and classifieds like Locanto. If you want to go to a strip club, enjoy yourself but be careful, especially with what you drink. Have a good time, but get a girl elsewhere.
Strip clubs are not only a ripoff, but dangerous as well. Best place in Medellin to have something slipped in your drink. The real value in Medellin mongering is the casas and classifieds like Locanto. If you want to go to a strip club, enjoy yourself but be careful, especially with what you drink. Have a good time, but get a girl elsewhere.What strip club did you get drugged at?
Mr Enternational
11-01-22, 16:40
If you want to go to a strip club, enjoy yourself but be careful, especially with what you drink. Have a good time, but get a girl elsewhere.Why not get a drink elsewhere and just go to the strip clubs for the girls?
I'd be curious to see the quality you are getting for 400 k TLN + taxi from Gustos.So am I. I've seen ugly vennies turn down 150 usd. Lmao.
But if it works for him, who cares.
And on a Saturday night normally it's wall to wall packed almost like Delirium in Cartagena.
I took one for the team today and made a couple of test withdrawals from my usual Davivienda ATM. The ATM behaved as always. It offered a conversion rate of 4500 or so that I declined. The conversion rate for my withdrawal worked out to 4821. As a further test, I tried a second withdrawal from an account with an insufficient balance. The ATM returned the expected insufficient balance notification.I had the same good experience with Davivienda. I declined the conversion, got a good rate and was not charged a transaction fee. LIke I posted before, I was able to take out $450 US worth of pesos in one transaction, the most of all the ATMs I visited in Medellin. Seems like a good deal to me.
I remember looking at the exchange rate I got at the ATM and looking at the money exchange rates on the same day and the ATM rate was much higher. So I recommend the ATM option if you want more bang for your buck.
Nil Admirari
11-01-22, 19:39
Strip clubs are not only a ripoff, but dangerous as well. Best place in Medellin to have something slipped in your drink. The real value in Medellin mongering is the casas and classifieds like Locanto. If you want to go to a strip club, enjoy yourself but be careful, especially with what you drink. Have a good time, but get a girl elsewhere.
To piggyback on Mtndew704's reply to your post, what personal experience or other evidence do you have that strip clubs are dangerous? Sure, when alone with a chica, watch one's drink--and, if you have to go for a leak, take your glass with you--the same as you would with a FB girl in your apartment, at least for the first visit or two.
And, before you scare off the new BMs in town from a decent mongering option, what's your definition of a "ripoff"? I'm asking as someone who (although he doesn't particularly enjoy hanging out at strip clubs), has had excellent luck from time to time over a number of years in finding a gem of a chica in such clubs ranging from (towards the lower end) Barre Ejecutiva and Conejitos in El Centro to (towards the upper end) Luna Lunera and Fase II: Among them, a number who have joined my stable of regulars (leisurely visits to my apartment with enthusiastic GFE style service-BBBJ, DFK, at times BBFS) for the 150 k to 250 k fee that seems pretty standard these days.
Moreover, in contrast to the casas, in the El Centro clubs one can leisurely check out the talent and hang out with a chica over a cheap beer (and with no cover charge) before deciding to head with her to a room or just to collect a WhatsApp number. And turning to the upper-end strip clubs, some guys no doubt find paying the entry fees (10 k to 50 k at the high-end, La Isla--just $5 to $10 or so US for god's sake) a reasonable enough price to pay for the classier ambiance, better quality strip-shows, and larger selection of chicas, all dolled up (a turn-on for some guys; irrelevant to others), and with the increased possibility (when compared with casas, SWs, and El Centro clubs) of finding a genuine beauty or two on most visits. And I've had some of my best sex with the most sensually acrobatic stars of the strip pole after having seen them audition on the stage.
A final caveat: I'd agree with those who lament the prevalence in the higher-priced clubs of silicon boobs and butts, often absurdly cantilevered, and that the majority of the chicas are not anything more special in terms of looks than one finds in the casas, cheaper clubs, on the street in Parque Lleras, and some would argue (not me so far in my experience) walking around Plaza Botero and Avenida de Greiff/Raudal. The major difference (despite the gowns, cleavage, and makeup) is that at La Isla and Fase II one has some chance (not every visit) of spotting the drop-dead, gorgeous stunner that you would never (or, at best, rarely if ever) be able to spy and take to bed from another of the mongering venues.
Just got back from my 6th trip to Medellin and, as usual, I can't wait to get back. As is my usual, I did not venture to El Centro. But I managed to see my usual FB girls and found a couple new ones that I will definitely add to my rotation. As my Spanish is ever improving, it's easier and easier to enjoy a few hours with each chica and the performance seemed to improve as well. Also did a day trip with an overnight in Guatupe which I would recommend if you're looking to get away for a day and really relax. Guatupe itself is tiny, but numerous hotels and fincas are around it. Also met up with another board member for a trip to La Isla which was fun.
Lodging: I primarily stay at Airbnbs in Medellin. Stayed at a cheaper one for the first 2 nights prior to Guatupe, then stayed at Energy Living for the last 3 nights. I'll just say the chicas loved the view from Energy. I was on the 16th floor. The pool had some sights as well, although the weather didn't cooperate much. I don't know if Energy is worth the price they're charging, but I enjoyed staying there.
Food: Stuck mostly to Poblado. Would recommend Puro Peru for a nice sit down place. The restaurant at Energy was good, but pricey. Plenty of places to choose from if you want to have dinner / drinks with company outside of Lleras. I also liked d'Andre for breakfast. Although the service there continues to be terrible.
Chicas: I've got a decent FB list. Did my regulars the first few night. I had brought some little presents (panties, dresses, tops) and all were appreciated. This was usually followed by a long and satisfying night together. Went to a couple bars / clubs. Then a day trip with another regular (non P4P) to Guatupe. Once I hit Energy, just posted some pictures of where I was and got about 30 messages over the next hour. Whittled It down to 4-6 I wanted to meet and then started scheduling. Just know that every chica will be anywhere from 30-60 minutes late and schedule accordingly. FB chicas we're all 200 k, mas taxi. Most didn't even bring up cost prior to coming over.
Once they're over, have some Smirnoff Ice (Green Apple) or Coronas, turn on some music, and within an 20-30 minutes you are good to go. No problems with BBBJ and all but 1 was down for BBFS. I'the say each was a 6-8, but looks are subjective for everyone. After Round 2.it was either off to dinner or lunch with a chica. Or she was ready to go meet up with her friends. Only advice I have is to not get too hung up on timeliness with chicas or being possessive. They're not going to show up on time, just accept it. But, if she's having fun, she will stay longer and leave when she feels like it. And they all have "friends" or some Colombian boyfriend. I try to stay away from the ones with pictures of bfs on FB.
Cost: My flight was about $650 round trip, lodging was another $500 ($115/ night at Energy) and I spent about another $800 while down there on activities. All in all. Not bad. I did go to La Isla again, which is a bit pricier. Items were a bit more expensive than last time, but with the dollar being so strong, it made up for this. I used my Schwab account so no withdrawal fees. I just remembered to decline the conversion every time. Happy Hunting all!!
You can hang around the bar and chat up the girls at Zandaly and Aventura. Both have stripper poles as well.
To piggyback on Mtndew704's reply to your post, what personal experience or other evidence do you have that strip clubs are dangerous? Sure, when alone with a chica, watch one's drink--and, if you have to go for a leak, take your glass with you--the same as you would with a FB girl in your apartment, at least for the first visit or two.
And, before you scare off the new BMs in town from a decent mongering option, what's your definition of a "ripoff"? I'm asking as someone who (although he doesn't particularly enjoy hanging out at strip clubs), has had excellent luck from time to time over a number of years in finding a gem of a chica in such clubs ranging from (towards the lower end) Barre Ejecutiva and Conejitos in El Centro to (towards the upper end) Luna Lunera and Fase II: Among them, a number who have joined my stable of regulars (leisurely visits to my apartment with enthusiastic GFE style service-BBBJ, DFK, at times BBFS) for the 150 k to 250 k fee that seems pretty standard these days.
Moreover, in contrast to the casas, in the El Centro clubs one can leisurely check out the talent and hang out with a chica over a cheap beer (and with no cover charge) before deciding to head with her to a room or just to collect a WhatsApp number. And turning to the upper-end strip clubs, some guys no doubt find paying the entry fees (10 k to 50 k at the high-end, La Isla--just $5 to $10 or so US for god's sake) a reasonable enough price to pay for the classier ambiance, better quality strip-shows, and larger selection of chicas, all dolled up (a turn-on for some guys; irrelevant to others), and with the increased possibility (when compared with casas, SWs, and El Centro clubs) of finding a genuine beauty or two on most visits. And I've had some of my best sex with the most sensually acrobatic stars of the strip pole after having seen them audition on the stage.
I'm glad that worked out for you. I think the ATM vs casa de cambio question was settled at long last a good 5 years ago. That's the last time I remember a back-and-forth thread with guys rationalizing the always worse deal the cambios give. There is a reason after all that you have to pass the airport cambio windows before you get to ATMs. They are sort of a litmus test for who is a first time visitor.
I have another public service announcement. Rappi has begun hedging the peso devaluation. Twice this week when I submitted a foreign issued credit card for payment Rappi returned a foreign currency amount with a note saying "we notify you the foreign currency amount of your transaction is XX. XX. " When I checked the conversion rate it was about 4500. You have to decline that rate by paying cash or using a Colombian issued card. It pisses me off because Rappi already assess a delivery fee and a service fee with every transaction.
I had the same good experience with Davivienda. I declined the conversion, got a good rate and was not charged a transaction fee. LIke I posted before, I was able to take out $450 US worth of pesos in one transaction, the most of all the ATMs I visited in Medellin. Seems like a good deal to me.
I remember looking at the exchange rate I got at the ATM and looking at the money exchange rates on the same day and the ATM rate was much higher. So I recommend the ATM option if you want more bang for your buck.
I have been to every Spanish speaking country in South Amrica, including Per three times. Per is my least favorite, followed closely by Chile. Per I always get the raging shits no matter what I do, and it can be very sketchy. Whereas, Chile (I am there now on visit #6) just bores the snot out of me. And Lima has some good hookers at times but I still can't stand it. If Per is your choice, check out Trujillo.Main reason to go to Peru is Machu Picchu and Cuzco which is about as close to a must-see as you can get. Lima has an ok mongering scene, but you don't generally go to Peru to hang out in Lima only.
Nil Admirari
11-02-22, 01:04
You can hang around the bar and chat up the girls at Zandaly and Aventura. Both have stripper poles as well.
I'm a fan of the casas as well, and of Zandalay in particular. But I was just posting to question MiamiSammy's offhand dismissal of strip clubs as "dangerous" and "rip offs", not to assert their superiority over other mongering venues. And, as you write, a few casas have bars where one can hang out and strip poles in some rooms. But, that said, if, before opting to take a (based on looks) promising chica to a room, you want to test the vibe during a half hour or so of flirtatious chit chat/lap dancing over drinks or, in effect, have her audition for you by twerking and stripping on stage for 15 minutes or by sensuously entwining herself on an overhead strip pole, there's no real comparison between a casa and a strip club. Casa / strip clubs: they each have their distinct charms as locales in which to scout and frolic with willing Paisas.
I had the same good experience with Davivienda. I declined the conversion, got a good rate and was not charged a transaction fee. LIke I posted before, I was able to take out $450 US worth of pesos in one transaction, the most of all the ATMs I visited in Medellin. Seems like a good deal to me.
I remember looking at the exchange rate I got at the ATM and looking at the money exchange rates on the same day and the ATM rate was much higher. So I recommend the ATM option if you want more bang for your buck.OK, this has been discussed ad nauseum many times. You don't understand how the ATMs work. You are getting the Visa Exchange Rate. So, if you go to Davienda and draw out 100 mil (for example) and then go to Colpatria and take out 100 mil and then you go to Banco Pichincha and take out 100 mil all on the same day and of course, if you are offered a bank rate or guaranteed rate or anything of that ilk, you just decline it. You will get 100 mil without a bank charge and it will be the exact same cost in US dollars at each bank.
If you do the same thing at Servibanca, Bancolombia or BBVA you will get the same exchange rate as above except these banks charge a fee. If you adjust the fee out it will the same cost in US dollars.
What you didn't understand is that you took out money at Davienda on one day and money from a different bank the next day etc. The exchange rate varies each day. Except for Saturday, Sunday and Monday where the exchange rate will be the same because the Visa Exchange rate set for Saturday doesn't get updated until Tuesday. There is a one day lag between what you see on XE as the mid-market rate and what you will receive at the ATM.
Here is the good and the bad about Davienda. The good is that at most Davienda cajeros (ATMs) you will be able to take out 2 million pesos in a single transaction. Colpatria only 900 mil pesos at one time. (Although you can make multiple draws). The bad thing is that sometimes Davienda will give you 100 mil notes instead of 50 mil notes. 100 mil notes are hard to use. Many smaller restaurants won't be able to change them, taxis won't be able to change them, some stores depending on their business won't either. They are a pain to use.
Sorry, I don't mean to criticize you but people here who don't bother to read the forum, should know how the ATMs work relative to the exchange rates. Your explanation simply isn't correct.
Strip clubs are not only a ripoff, but dangerous as well. Best place in Medellin to have something slipped in your drink. The real value in Medellin mongering is the casas and classifieds like Locanto. If you want to go to a strip club, enjoy yourself but be careful, especially with what you drink. Have a good time, but get a girl elsewhere.Gustos is not a Strip Club.
And your statement about strips clubs is generally not true either.
Your comment about the real value in Medellin mongering depends on each particular guy and what he considers of value in the game.
Have you been to Medellin?
Strip clubs are not only a ripoff, but dangerous as well. Best place in Medellin to have something slipped in your drink. The real value in Medellin mongering is the casas and classifieds like Locanto. If you want to go to a strip club, enjoy yourself but be careful, especially with what you drink. Have a good time, but get a girl elsewhere.This is false. Link us to one credible account where someone was drugged in a Medellin strip club. And in such a case where it was clearly done by staff. These are stationary, not hit and run operations, and do not thrive by posioning the customers. You are right about the casas but they are in the same class of places as the strip clubs.
P.S. I just did a youtube search on this, found nothing. But in the process did find one of some morons "making it rain" in Colombia. Word up guys, you aren't a playa, you aren't Floyd Mayweather, you are a regular guy like everyone else here so no one is impressed. Save it for the states, but next time man up and do 20's or 100's.
JamesPearle
11-02-22, 03:45
About 2 weeks before arriving I set up an account on Whatsapp, Tinder, and Facebook and mentioned I was going to be in Medellin for a few days and wanted to meet some women to party with. In about a week I had begun getting a lot of responses on Tinder and Facebook in Spanish of girls saying they wanted to meet. I asked for photos and all of them sent sexy photos back. The conversation basically suggested they were DTF. Great so far.
After I arrived in Medellin I started contacting these girls over messenger and whatsapp that I'm here and ready to meet. I got hardly any responses back. I'm like. This is crazy. I'm here, I'm ready to party and have fun, but none of these chicas are responding. WTF? I remembered another ISG guy said he was in town recently and told him what was happening. He said "yeah, there are a bunch of scammers online especially on tinder. You got to watch out. " More about that later. Good news is that he hooked me up with a couple facebook profiles and said "yeah, hit up any of these girls and they'll take care of you. " Cool!
Day 2 I contacted one of the girls he put me in touch with that he said gave an amazing blowjob. After all the stress of day 1 I really needed a soft, warm, wet mouth to help me relax. He was not lying at all. She had a great body, super friendly and was a blowjob queen. After we did our thing, I asked her if she had any friends because I wanted to have some fun with two girls at the same time. She said she had a friend she could bring tomorrow. Cool.
Day 3 she and the friend showed up. The friend had a fit spinner body. Face was cute not stunning. That said, she was definitely fuckable. Had a good time with them. Did my usual routine of getting a sloppy blowjob from one while the other stripped. They switched places and then repeated the same performance. Then a blowbang which was enjoyable. Then I made out with the friend like we were on our honeymoon. Let me tell you. The eroticism of passionate DFK with one woman while another woman is slurping on on your genitals is a truly special experience. I would highly recommend it.
Day 4 one of the Tinder chicas contacted me over whatsapp and asked if I still wanted to meet up with her and her friend. By this time I had forgotten the advice from 3 days earlier and said sure. I arrived at a club around 9 pm and had several drinks before the two chicas showed up. I went outside to meet them. They were pretty average looking but as I didn't have anything else lined up, I thought I would see where this would lead. Out of the corner of my eye I noticed some dude looking at me real hard. I figured he was salty because I was a gringo chatting up a couple of local women and ignored him. Continued my small talk with the chicas. I asked them to come inside the club. They said they did not want to go inside and just wanted to go back to my place. I'm thinking. Whoa - these girls want to get right to it! Great. So I called an uber. Uber drops us off at my apartment. When we got out the girls said "hey, let's get some drinks before we go inside. There's a bar down the street we can go to. " Yes, I know what you're thinking. But in my defense I was drunk and horny. I said OK and we started walking and talking. After about 3-4 minutes, a car screeches to a stop right next to us. Two guys hop out. One points a gun directly at me, doesn't say anything, and just stares at me like he would absolutely love to pull the trigger. I put my hands up and said "hay no problema. " The girls that were giggling and chatting with me only seconds ago worked with the driver to shake me down. Seconds later they all hopped in the car and sped off. The stuff they stole was all easily replaceable and the money was pocket change. The thing I really didn't like was having a gun pointed at me. I later saw that the tinder profile was cancelled so the whole thing was a scam. Who knows how many of the other tinder or facebook accounts are also scams.
Hope this helps others. Good luck and stay safe.
About 2 weeks before arriving I set up an account on Whatsapp, Tinder, and Facebook and mentioned I was going to be in Medellin for a few days and wanted to meet some women to party with. In about a week I had begun getting a lot of responses on Tinder and Facebook in Spanish of girls saying they wanted to meet. I asked for photos and all of them sent sexy photos back. The conversation basically suggested they were DTF. Great so far.
After I arrived in Medellin I started contacting these girls over messenger and whatsapp that I'm here and ready to meet. I got hardly any responses back. I'm like. This is crazy. I'm here, I'm ready to party and have fun, but none of these chicas are responding. WTF? I remembered another ISG guy said he was in town recently and told him what was happening. He said "yeah, there are a bunch of scammers online especially on tinder. You got to watch out. " More about that later. Good news is that he hooked me up with a couple facebook profiles and said "yeah, hit up any of these girls and they'll take care of you. " Cool!
Day 2 I contacted one of the girls he put me in touch with that he said gave an amazing blowjob. After all the stress of day 1 I really needed a soft, warm, wet mouth to help me relax. He was not lying at all. She had a great body, super friendly and was a blowjob queen. After we did our thing, I asked her if she had any friends because I wanted to have some fun with two girls at the same time. She said she had a friend she could bring tomorrow. Cool.
Day 3 she and the friend showed up. The friend had a fit spinner body. Face was cute not stunning. That said, she was definitely fuckable. Had a good time with them. Did my usual routine of getting a sloppy blowjob from one while the other stripped. They switched places and then repeated the same performance. Then a blowbang which was enjoyable. Then I made out with the friend like we were on our honeymoon. Let me tell you. The eroticism of passionate DFK with one woman while another woman is slurping on on your genitals is a truly special experience. I would highly recommend it.
Day 4 one of the Tinder chicas contacted me over whatsapp and asked if I still wanted to meet up with her and her friend. By this time I had forgotten the advice from 3 days earlier and said sure. I arrived at a club around 9 pm and had several drinks before the two chicas showed up. I went outside to meet them. They were pretty average looking but as I didn't have anything else lined up, I thought I would see where this would lead. Out of the corner of my eye I noticed some dude looking at me real hard. I figured he was salty because I was a gringo chatting up a couple of local women and ignored him. Continued my small talk with the chicas. I asked them to come inside the club. They said they did not want to go inside and just wanted to go back to my place. I'm thinking. Whoa - these girls want to get right to it! Great. So I called an uber. Uber drops us off at my apartment. When we got out the girls said "hey, let's get some drinks before we go inside. There's a bar down the street we can go to. " Yes, I know what you're thinking. But in my defense I was drunk and horny. I said OK and we started walking and talking. After about 3-4 minutes, a car screeches to a stop right next to us. Two guys hop out. One points a gun directly at me, doesn't say anything, and just stares at me like he would absolutely love to pull the trigger. I put my hands up and said "hay no problema. " The girls that were giggling and chatting with me only seconds ago worked with the driver to shake me down. Seconds later they all hopped in the car and sped off. The stuff they stole was all easily replaceable and the money was pocket change. The thing I really didn't like was having a gun pointed at me. I later saw that the tinder profile was cancelled so the whole thing was a scam. Who knows how many of the other tinder or facebook accounts are also scams.
Hope this helps others. Good luck and stay safe.What part of Medellin were you in? I'm glad you didn't get hurt.
Just got back from my 6th trip to Medellin and, as usual, I can't wait to get back. As is my usual, I did not venture to El Centro. But I managed to see my usual FB girls and found a couple new ones that I will definitely add to my rotation. As my Spanish is ever improving, it's easier and easier to enjoy a few hours with each chica and the performance seemed to improve as well. Also did a day trip with an overnight in Guatupe which I would recommend if you're looking to get away for a day and really relax. Guatupe itself is tiny, but numerous hotels and fincas are around it. Also met up with another board member for a trip to La Isla which was fun.
Lodging: I primarily stay at Airbnbs in Medellin. Stayed at a cheaper one for the first 2 nights prior to Guatupe, then stayed at Energy Living for the last 3 nights. I'll just say the chicas loved the view from Energy. I was on the 16th floor. The pool had some sights as well, although the weather didn't cooperate much. I don't know if Energy is worth the price they're charging, but I enjoyed staying there.
Food: Stuck mostly to Poblado. Would recommend Puro Peru for a nice sit down place. The restaurant at Energy was good, but pricey. Plenty of places to choose from if you want to have dinner / drinks with company outside of Lleras. I also liked d'Andre for breakfast. Although the service there continues to be terrible.I'm headed to Medellin from the US for my first visit mid December for 5 nights.
How do you find these women on FB?
If I search for Medellin, FB is looking for names that contain Medellin.
My plan is to just find some street action in el center or parquet Llera but having FB to find a dinner companion would be nice.
BBJCIM / BBFS is what I'm after.
About 2 weeks before arriving I set up an account on Whatsapp, Tinder, and Facebook and mentioned I was going to be in Medellin for a few days and wanted to meet some women to party with. In about a week I had begun getting a lot of responses on Tinder and Facebook in Spanish of girls saying they wanted to meet. I asked for photos and all of them sent sexy photos back. The conversation basically suggested they were DTF. Great so far.
After I arrived in Medellin I started contacting these girls over messenger and whatsapp that I'm here and ready to meet. I got hardly any responses back. I'm like. This is crazy. I'm here, I'm ready to party and have fun, but none of these chicas are responding. WTF? I remembered another ISG guy said he was in town recently and told him what was happening. He said "yeah, there are a bunch of scammers online especially on tinder. You got to watch out. " More about that later. Good news is that he hooked me up with a couple facebook profiles and said "yeah, hit up any of these girls and they'll take care of you. " Cool!
Day 2 I contacted one of the girls he put me in touch with that he said gave an amazing blowjob. After all the stress of day 1 I really needed a soft, warm, wet mouth to help me relax. He was not lying at all. She had a great body, super friendly and was a blowjob queen. After we did our thing, I asked her if she had any friends because I wanted to have some fun with two girls at the same time. She said she had a friend she could bring tomorrow. Cool...Thanks for sharing. I'm from the US. Heading to Medellin mid December for my first visit.
I'm going to avoid tinder.
Stick to street action and Clubs.
Trying to figure out how to find girls on FB.
Mr Enternational
11-02-22, 19:20
Out of the corner of my eye I noticed some dude looking at me real hard. I figured he was salty because I was a gringo chatting up a couple of local women.Why do you guys think this is actually a thing? And it was not like he would have figured you were talking to the cream of Colombia's crop. Local people know hookers when they see them; it appears gringos not so much. Nobody is jealous of you talking to hookers!
Continued my small talk with the chicas. I asked them to come inside the club. They said they did not want to go inside and just wanted to go back to my place. I'm thinking. Whoa - these girls want to get right to it! When we got out the girls said "hey, let's get some drinks before we go inside. Yeah I was definitely thinking they did not want to go in a bar when it was offered, but suggested getting drinks before going into your place. How long did the chicks say they would stay and how much were you supposed to pay them? I am still waiting on one of these "chicks set me up" stories that does not involve alcohol.
BbqMushrooms
11-02-22, 20:05
Setup: I stay in a coliving place, can't really have the ferris wheel effect I want, so I booked 5 days at Orange Travelers Suites (pros and cons in the Medellin Apartments and Hotels Thread).
First night: Friday, I went to a Halloween Party thrown by one of the schools and hung out with another board member and the crew he brought from his hostel. They were party animals. We stayed up pretty late! I'm glad I got the Medellin club experience.
Saturday:
Seeking Woman 1 - 500 k BBFS.
This was the woman of my dreams. Her instagram and TikTok, unghh. Having her over was amazing and even more amazing in the morning we had a video call from our respective beds, she named her price, I named my requirements. She came over (hour late), we drank, smoked on the balcony, and went up to the hot tub. Oh she took like 20 minutes taking photos in the bathroom, influencers got to influence I guess. Influence this dick in her mouth! Anways, super fun vibe. I also bought her a gift, it was a necklace from a department store. I thought it matched her style, she said she loved it. I gave it to her after our session (experimenting with timing on this. Before session = better experience? Or no?) I had a great time with her, and watching her play with my toys.
Facebook Transexual - 200 k+taxis.
WHOOPS! I didn't look at her pictures too much, she looked like a woman, but she could shake her ass, had long hair and a cute face so. I could tell like 20 minutes in when we were having a beer and she started burping lmao. Some manly goddamn burps. I tried to tell her I was fine with trans women and see if she would open up about it, but she didn't. The session was weird, we didn't end up actually having sex which was fine with me, the blowjob and BLS were good enough. Gave her a croissant and sent her on her way. This was unfortunate if she just opened up about it, it would've been fine, but I imagine she's had really bad experiences in the past. Probably also way harder to get attention as a trans woman.
Sunday.
Facebook Girl - 350 k 250+propina+taxis CIM.
I gifted this one a bathing suit before our session (cause she said she didn't have a good one), but she still asked for a tip for CIM. Fun time, ok kissing, BJ was good enough. Even though I gave her a bathing suit, she still didn't have enough time for the Jacuzzi.
Seeking Repeat - 300 k.
I've seen her a few times, she's sweet, soft spoken, very athletic / has energy. I got her some VS panties and lotions / scents. We made out and I fingered her in the Turkish bath. That was fun. Having her quiver on my lap there. We sessioned then had our date (dinner + activity). I wanted her to stay over, but she had work early the next day. Gave her a gift at the beginning of our date, didn't seem to affect the level of service. She's usually pretty good so I stick with it. We're getting comfortable now, and I need to start throatfucking her properly.
Monday.
I took a rest day today. Went and got some shopping done for my Facebook girl tomorrow. I guess Halloween is at the mall as kids and their parents go from store to store hoping they have candy for the kids, some do, some don't.
Tuesday.
Mileroticos - 240 k + 30 k propina.
Man I really liked this woman. She was a lot of fun and totally there for me. I was unfortunately distracted with work but she just went with the flow rubbing my shoulders while I was answering messages. Sucking my dick in between calls. Then when I had a break being my slutty secretary exposing herself on my desk while I had her pussy as a snack and then fucked her. Everything covered, but she kissed amazingly, and like I said was up for whatever I wanted. Older woman, fiery hair, cool blue eyes. But still has that energy that just screams sex.
Facebook Girl. Gifts BBFS BBBJCIMWS.
So we chatted and video chatted and she's young and cute and when I asked what she wanted. She said clothes and shoes. I didn't want to buy her shoes, cause I wanted her to try those on first, but I was fine with getting her XS everything else. So here's how I laid it out, I put 4 of the gifts on the table. I gave her the first one and said, "as the night goes on, you can unlock more gifts. " She said "Que?? No entiendo". But after we made out for a bit and I gave her the second gift, she understood. We went to the weird jacuzzi on the roof, hung out in the Turkish bath, I took pictures of her flirting with the camera. Came back to the place, more drinks, sex, a couple more gifts, etc. I coaxed her into swallowing with the promise of a secret 5th gift. I didn't even let her see the bag. But she said ok fine I will. And she did it right man, kept sucking until she got every drop and then swallow. Amazing.
Gift 1 - 32 k blouse.
Gift 2 - 80 k top and bottom leapord print.
Gift 3 - 60 k blouse.
Gift 4 - 90 k Top and bottom sweatpants and matching t-shirt.
Gift 5 - 130 k Victoria's Secret Painties.
+50 k for taxis +30 k because apparently I had said I would (I meant to say, I already gave you, not I would give you more, Spanish so hawd).
Here's what I want to do next time. Less gifts? 5 is pretty good number, it meant the pacing was nice, but you could probably get away with 4. DEFINITELY cheaper places. Need to find the good quality stuff on the cheap. I think keeping the special gift hidden is key, and using it as leverage if I need to, or as a surprise in the end because the chica did me right or not at all because she wasn't good to you. Also, I need to work on presentation a bit. The VS stuff comes wrapped up nice but the other stuff didn't.
I liked the tension of the gifts and the pull and tug that came with that. I liked shopping for her based on the pictures she posted of herself and the clothes she wears. I liked that they landed, she liked what I bought her, mostly. The shittiest way to end this is by her nicking one of my portable charging batteries. I've asked her about it saying "I can't find it do you remember where I put it? Oh silly me", but we'll see if she's will fess up or not. She took an interest in it and I know she had the opportunity because I kept all the charging cables stupidly close to my electronics. We'll see if she even replies.
I'm not sure if I'll get another hotel for my last week or not. I want to focus on seeing more of the city authentically and not just as a dirty ***** monger. I still need to do comuna 13 and ride a motorcycle.
I'm glad that worked out for you. I think the ATM vs casa de cambio question was settled at long last a good 5 years ago. That's the last time I remember a back-and-forth thread with guys rationalizing the always worse deal the cambios give. There is a reason after all that you have to pass the airport cambio windows before you get to ATMs. They are sort of a litmus test for who is a first time visitor.
I have another public service announcement. Rappi has begun hedging the peso devaluation. Twice this week when I submitted a foreign issued credit card for payment Rappi returned a foreign currency amount with a note saying "we notify you the foreign currency amount of your transaction is XX. XX. " When I checked the conversion rate it was about 4500. You have to decline that rate by paying cash or using a Colombian issued card. It pisses me off because Rappi already assess a delivery fee and a service fee with every transaction.4 years ago I did a test. Besides the ATMs, I used a money exchange and I sent 1 million pesos to my old roommate to hold for me, through Western Union. She ended up taking a long trip out of the country 4 days before I arrived. However, she left me the keys to her apartment and left the money in a safe place.
As everyone probably knows, Western Union has the worst rate, except for the airport money exchange. Shopping around at the money exchange places I got a slightly better rate than I got from my debit card at the ATM. However, that card at that time added about 7% in fees for out of network and foreign currency.
If your bank charges those fees you might get a better rate at the Casa de Cambio. I now have 2 banks, no fees on either and 1 refunds ATM fees (although there is a monthly limit).
Thanks for sharing. I'm from the US. Heading to Medellin mid December for my first visit.
I'm going to avoid tinder.
Stick to street action and Clubs.
Trying to figure out how to find girls on FB.I had a lot of success in the past with Tinder but it appears I might have to give it up. I keep hearing more and more about people getting robbed off that platform.
OK, this has been discussed ad nauseum many times....
...,,,Here is the good and the bad about Davienda. The good is that at most Davienda cajeros (ATMs) you will be able to take out 2 million pesos in a single transaction. Colpatria only 900 mil pesos at one time. (Although you can make multiple draws). The bad thing is that sometimes Davienda will give you 100 mil notes instead of 50 mil notes. 100 mil notes are hard to use. Many smaller restaurants won't be able to change them, taxis won't be able to change them, some stores depending on their business won't either. They are a pain to use.....
Sorry, I don't mean to criticize you but people here who don't bother to read the forum, should know how the ATMs work relative to the exchange rates. Your explanation simply isn't correct.
I agree with everything on the exchange rate, but note that the amount you can withdraw often depends on ATM location, and maybe time of month, as much as bank. Those in Poblado for example tend to allow more. Case in point, I was just in the Laureles Unicentro and 3 different banks (Davienda, Banco Social, and BBVA) gave me a limit of 300 k. ServiBank and another didn't have money and I finally was able to get 600 k at BancoColombia (their max at that location). Simultaneously a buddy I was texting with got 2 mil from a Colpatria in El Centro. Over the years I have personally had more luck with Colpatria. They have a closer connection to the American banks (Citibank, now Chase) and Canadian banks (Scotiabank) than others. I have found their charges to be less (although I have Schwab and don't really care).
One other note, BancoColombia almost without fail will give you the 100k notes. As noted, it's a pain in the ass using those. I pawn them off on the chicas lol.
As always, YMMV.
About 2 weeks before arriving I set up an account on Whatsapp, Tinder, and Facebook and mentioned I was going to be in Medellin for a few days and wanted to meet some women to party with. In about a week I had begun getting a lot of responses on Tinder and Facebook in Spanish of girls saying they wanted to meet. I asked for photos and all of them sent sexy photos back. The conversation basically suggested they were DTF. Great so far.
After I arrived in Medellin I started contacting these girls over messenger and whatsapp that I'm here and ready to meet. I got hardly any responses back. I'm like. This is crazy. I'm here, I'm ready to party and have fun, but none of these chicas are responding. WTF? I remembered another ISG guy said he was in town recently and told him what was happening. He said "yeah, there are a bunch of scammers online especially on tinder. You got to watch out. " More about that later. Good news is that he hooked me up with a couple facebook profiles and said "yeah, hit up any of these girls and they'll take care of you. " Cool!
Day 2 I contacted one of the girls he put me in touch with that he said gave an amazing blowjob. After all the stress of day 1 I really needed a soft, warm, wet mouth to help me relax. He was not lying at all. She had a great body, super friendly and was a blowjob queen. After we did our thing, I asked her if she had any friends because I wanted to have some fun with two girls at the same time. She said she had a friend she could bring tomorrow. Cool.
Day 3 she and the friend showed up. The friend had a fit spinner body. Face was cute not stunning. That said, she was definitely fuckable. Had a good time with them. Did my usual routine of getting a sloppy blowjob from one while the other stripped. They switched places and then repeated the same performance. Then a blowbang which was enjoyable. Then I made out with the friend like we were on our honeymoon. Let me tell you. The eroticism of passionate DFK with one woman while another woman is slurping on on your genitals is a truly special experience. I would highly recommend it.
Day 4 one of the Tinder chicas contacted me over whatsapp and asked if I still wanted to meet up with her and her friend. By this time I had forgotten the advice from 3 days earlier and said sure. I arrived at a club around 9 pm and had several drinks before the two chicas showed up. I went outside to meet them. They were pretty average looking but as I didn't have anything else lined up, I thought I would see where this would lead. Out of the corner of my eye I noticed some dude looking at me real hard. I figured he was salty because I was a gringo chatting up a couple of local women and ignored him. Continued my small talk with the chicas. I asked them to come inside the club. They said they did not want to go inside and just wanted to go back to my place. I'm thinking. Whoa - these girls want to get right to it! Great. So I called an uber. Uber drops us off at my apartment. When we got out the girls said "hey, let's get some drinks before we go inside. There's a bar down the street we can go to. " Yes, I know what you're thinking. But in my defense I was drunk and horny. I said OK and we started walking and talking. After about 3-4 minutes, a car screeches to a stop right next to us. Two guys hop out. One points a gun directly at me, doesn't say anything, and just stares at me like he would absolutely love to pull the trigger. I put my hands up and said "hay no problema. " The girls that were giggling and chatting with me only seconds ago worked with the driver to shake me down. Seconds later they all hopped in the car and sped off. The stuff they stole was all easily replaceable and the money was pocket change. The thing I really didn't like was having a gun pointed at me. I later saw that the tinder profile was cancelled so the whole thing was a scam. Who knows how many of the other tinder or facebook accounts are also scams.
Hope this helps others. Good luck and stay safe.Because it's important and nobody seems to get it until after they've been robbed:
1. Stay away from Tinder. There are no secret hidden princesses there. It's either the same girls you can find elsewhere, or it's gangs setting up gringos to get robbed. Getting laid in Medellin is easier than getting fresh, hot fries from a fast food burger joint. Why greatly increase your risk of being robbed without improving your chances of getting laid?
2. Never session with 2 strangers. You're paying double to find out if the first girl is worth half the price. You also have someone to distract you while someone else can steal your stuff.
3. There's not an honest hooker in Medellin who will refuse to go into a bar or restaurant to eat or drink. If a girl refuses, or tries to steer you somewhere else, assume her intentions are not good.
4. Make your plans, stick to your plans. Be suspicious of anyone trying to change your plans. You can still be flexible, but consider the risks.
5. Drunk people don't notice important things. Drunk people also make bad decisions. If you're planning on visiting another country in order to get drunk expect outcomes which aren't in your favor.
6. When faced with a gun or knife, hand over everything and hopefully live another day.
It's terrible you were robbed. I'm glad you shared it so maybe someone else won't get robbed.
I agree with everything on the exchange rate, but note that the amount you can withdraw often depends on ATM location, and maybe time of month, as much as bank. Those in Poblado for example tend to allow more. Case in point, I was just in the Laureles Unicentro and 3 different banks (Davienda, Banco Social, and BBVA) gave me a limit of 300 k. ServiBank and another didn't have money and I finally was able to get 600 k at BancoColombia (their max at that location). Simultaneously a buddy I was texting with got 2 mil from a Colpatria in El Centro. Over the years I have personally had more luck with Colpatria. They have a closer connection to the American banks (Citibank, now Chase) and Canadian banks (Scotiabank) than others. I have found their charges to be less (although I have Schwab and don't really care).
One other note, BancoColombia almost without fail will give you the 100k notes. As noted, it's a pain in the ass using those. I pawn them off on the chicas lol.
As always, YMMV.That is true about Davienda. I took out the max and got all 100 mil notes. I didn't like it but those 100 mil notes go away like hotcakes when you are seeing FB girls. I thought I would have problems with those 100 mil notes but they disappeared very quickly as I saw my girls. Ha ha ha. Relatively easy to get change when you go to the supermarket and convenience stores.
I'm headed to Medellin from the US for my first visit mid December for 5 nights.
How do you find these women on FB?
If I search for Medellin, FB is looking for names that contain Medellin.
My plan is to just find some street action in el center or parquet Llera but having FB to find a dinner companion would be nice.
BBJCIM / BBFS is what I'm after.Finding women on FB in Medellin and setting up your account has been address ad nauseum on the forum. Just search for FB or Facebook in the Colombia forum and you'll find profiles that have been posted by other members. Request them as friends. If their friends' list is unlocked. Request some of their friends as well. It takes some time at first, but once you post you're coming down (like a week or so out), you'll start getting friend requests from random chicas. My advice. Don't try and set up dates or schedule anything until you get there. Once you're there, post that you're in Medellin and you'll get a flurry of message requests. Pick a few and you just tell them what you want. BBFS and BBJCIM should not be hard to find.
Am I going to post the FB pages for my regulars? No. Because they'll kill me when they get all the friend / message requests. I'the like to be able to see them again when I go back. I also don't bother these girls when I'm not in Medellin or arriving in the near future. Good luck!
I don't pick up chicas in Parque Lleras or on the streets so I have nothing to offer regarding that.
What part of Medellin were you in? I'm glad you didn't get hurt.Everybody knows that organized crime runs a daily operations on tinder anytime you have two girls it's a pretty good chance they're going to rob you if you have one girl and she wants to go right to the apartment for drinks and she's not a Papago it's 100% she's a criminal it baffles me how some people don't know this they must've realized they weren't able to drug you so easy so they called up their accomplice and they robbed you were gunpoint you're lucky you're alive.
Thank you for sharing this. I am so glad you escaped without a worse outcome. There are several good reminders and lessons learned: moderate use of booze when you are dealing with previously unknown parties, heed the red flags, be extra vigilant when you notice people watching you in an unusual way, avoid bring a friend offers from girls you don't know, make all transportation arrangements yourself to avoid drivers who may be in cahoots with the bandidos.
About 2 weeks before arriving I set up an account on Whatsapp, Tinder, and Facebook and mentioned I was going to be in Medellin for a few days and wanted to meet some women to party with. In about a week I had begun getting a lot of responses on Tinder and Facebook in Spanish of girls saying they wanted to meet. I asked for photos and all of them sent sexy photos back. The conversation basically suggested they were DTF. Great so far.
After I arrived in Medellin I started contacting these girls over messenger and whatsapp that I'm here and ready to meet. I got hardly any responses back. I'm like. This is crazy. I'm here, I'm ready to party and have fun, but none of these chicas are responding. WTF? I remembered another ISG guy said he was in town recently and told him what was happening. He said "yeah, there are a bunch of scammers online especially on tinder. You got to watch out. " More about that later. Good news is that he hooked me up with a couple facebook profiles and said "yeah, hit up any of these girls and they'll take care of you. " Cool!
Day 2 I contacted one of the girls he put me in touch with that he said gave an amazing blowjob. After all the stress of day 1 I really needed a soft, warm, wet mouth to help me relax. He was not lying at all. She had a great body, super friendly and was a blowjob queen. After we did our thing, I asked her if she had any friends because I wanted to have some fun with two girls at the same time. She said she had a friend she could bring tomorrow. Cool.
Day 3 she and the friend showed up. The friend had a fit spinner body. Face was cute not stunning. That said, she was definitely fuckable. Had a good time with them. Did my usual routine of getting a sloppy blowjob from one while the other stripped. They switched places and then repeated the same performance. Then a blowbang which was enjoyable. Then I made out with the friend like we were on our honeymoon. Let me tell you. The eroticism of passionate DFK with one woman while another woman is slurping on on your genitals is a truly special experience. I would highly recommend it.
Day 4 one of the Tinder chicas contacted me over whatsapp and asked if I still wanted to meet up with her and her friend. By this time I had forgotten the advice from 3 days earlier and said sure. I arrived at a club around 9 pm and had several drinks before the two chicas showed up. I went outside to meet them. They were pretty average looking but as I didn't have anything else lined up, I thought I would see where this would lead. Out of the corner of my eye I noticed some dude looking at me real hard. I figured he was salty because I was a gringo chatting up a couple of local women and ignored him. Continued my small talk with the chicas. I asked them to come inside the club. They said they did not want to go inside and just wanted to go back to my place. I'm thinking. Whoa - these girls want to get right to it! Great. So I called an uber. Uber drops us off at my apartment. When we got out the girls said "hey, let's get some drinks before we go inside. There's a bar down the street we can go to. " Yes, I know what you're thinking. But in my defense I was drunk and horny. I said OK and we started walking and talking. After about 3-4 minutes, a car screeches to a stop right next to us. Two guys hop out. One points a gun directly at me, doesn't say anything, and just stares at me like he would absolutely love to pull the trigger. I put my hands up and said "hay no problema. " The girls that were giggling and chatting with me only seconds ago worked with the driver to shake me down. Seconds later they all hopped in the car and sped off. The stuff they stole was all easily replaceable and the money was pocket change. The thing I really didn't like was having a gun pointed at me. I later saw that the tinder profile was cancelled so the whole thing was a scam. Who knows how many of the other tinder or facebook accounts are also scams.
Hope this helps others. Good luck and stay safe.
I arrived late last night so I decided to go to fase II. 20 mil cover, I pay it and go in and it's pretty dead. Not a good sign. I've already paid cover so I order a drink. 22 mil for a mini budweiser, not even a full bottle. Whatever, there are some hot girls around, not on stage though. The ones on stage was like a 6. 5. She finished dancing and comes and asks me for a tip for her dancing. I say no, that's what I paid cover for. At this point I'm pissed. It's not about the money, it's the principle. Like maybe you think I'm cheap for not wanting to give her 2 or 5 mil (assuming you have those bills, once you dig into your pocket it's game over) but I think the club the club is cheap if they pay their dancers so little that they have to panhandle. Anyway I was hoping it was a once off situation. The second dancer I didn't even watch, I was looking at my phone. When the second dancer came up to panhandle I said fuck this I'm out and finished my drink and bounced. Then I realized the airbnb I rented had fucking holes in the doors for ventilation and vents in the windows that you can't close. You heard every noise in every room. Slept maybe 4 hours tops due to the noise. Texted my host in the morning that it's not going to work out. He hooked me up with a deal for a nicer hotel, had to pay like 350 mil more for the 2 weeks. I have to wait til 3 to check in and I get here and it also has the uncloseable vent in the window. WTF? How is this a thing? How to Colombians sleep? FML. Not feeling Medellin so far. Kinda wish I stayed in Bogota. Hopefully it gets better.
Oh another thing, when the host made the change for me, I told him I needed a place where I could bring a guest back. He tells his wife this and she picks me up to take me to the hotel, and she's explaining this to the lady at the desk and they're telling me it's fine as long as it's only one person. Man I almost cringed to death. Now this hotel makes them sign in with ID and shit. Bruh.
I agree with everything on the exchange rate, but note that the amount you can withdraw often depends on ATM location, and maybe time of month, as much as bank. Those in Poblado for example tend to allow more. Case in point, I was just in the Laureles Unicentro and 3 different banks (Davienda, Banco Social, and BBVA) gave me a limit of 300 k. ServiBank and another didn't have money and I finally was able to get 600 k at BancoColombia (their max at that location). Simultaneously a buddy I was texting with got 2 mil from a Colpatria in El Centro. Over the years I have personally had more luck with Colpatria. They have a closer connection to the American banks (Citibank, now Chase) and Canadian banks (Scotiabank) than others. I have found their charges to be less (although I have Schwab and don't really care).
One other note, BancoColombia almost without fail will give you the 100k notes. As noted, it's a pain in the ass using those. I pawn them off on the chicas lol.
As always, YMMV.You make some good points. The amount you can pull via 1 or several withdrawals is limited by the bank and also by your daily withdrawal limit. I didn't know that Bancolombia gives out 100 mil notes (ugghhh) I usually avoid them like the plague. You can only withdraw 600 mil in one transaction and they charge a hefty fee. I have Schwab and would get reimbursed but since I live here I don't want to abuse the privilege. Davienda is also stuck sometimes and you get 100 mil notes as noted before.
BbqMushrooms
11-03-22, 01:08
The shittiest way to end this is by her nicking one of my portable charging batteries. I've asked her about it saying "I can't find it do you remember where I put it? Oh silly me", but we'll see if she's will fess up or not. She took an interest in it and I know she had the opportunity because I kept all the charging cables stupidly close to my electronics. We'll see if she even replies.So far I've been fortunate to not having to deal with any thieves. Most of the girls, including the trans woman, asked multiple times if it was ok for them to take something that I offered. I appreciated that. Also, I found my stupid battery. It was in some other random bag for no good reason. I feel terrible for asking her about it, this is the second time on this trip I was like "I'm sure that woman stole something from me", but it turned out to be my mistake. It would be dumb of her to do that given how much I spent on her and the plans we made going forward. I need to keep better track of my stuff. Having two places was annoying, so maybe I'll just stick with the known quantities and invite them to this coliving.
Mr Enternational
11-03-22, 02:34
I arrived late last night so I decided to go to fase II. Whatever, there are some hot girls around, not on stage though. The ones on stage was like a 6. 5. She finished dancing and comes and asks me for a tip for her dancing. I say no, that's what I paid cover for. At this point I'm pissed. It's not about the money, it's the principle. Like maybe you think I'm cheap for not wanting to give her 2 or 5 mil (assuming you have those bills, once you dig into your pocket it's game over) but I think the club the club is cheap if they pay their dancers so little that they have to panhandle. Anyway I was hoping it was a once off situation. The second dancer I didn't even watch, I was looking at my phone. When the second dancer came up to panhandle I said fuck this I'm out and finished my drink and bounced.So what you are saying is that you did no research before going to this place, because everybody has said for years that this is how strip clubs in Colombia work. The chicks dance on stage and later they come around to collect the 2,000 peso tips from the patrons.
Mr Enternational
11-03-22, 02:37
Oh another thing, when the host made the change for me, I told him I needed a place where I could bring a guest back. He tells his wife this and she picks me up to take me to the hotel, and she's explaining this to the lady at the desk and they're telling me it's fine as long as it's only one person. Man I almost cringed to death. Now this hotel makes them sign in with ID and shit. Bruh.Did the hotel not make you sign in with ID and shit?
SouthernOcean
11-03-22, 03:21
Just arrived. Tired but going out to look. Anyone out and about tonight for a beer?
I arrived late last night so I decided to go to fase II. 20 mil cover, I pay it and go in and it's pretty dead. Not a good sign. I've already paid cover so I order a drink. 22 mil for a mini budweiser, not even a full bottle. Whatever, there are some hot girls around, not on stage though. The ones on stage was like a 6. 5. She finished dancing and comes and asks me for a tip for her dancing. I say no, that's what I paid cover for. At this point I'm pissed. It's not about the money, it's the principle. Like maybe you think I'm cheap for not wanting to give her 2 or 5 mil (assuming you have those bills, once you dig into your pocket it's game over) but I think the club the club is cheap if they pay their dancers so little that they have to panhandle. Anyway I was hoping it was a once off situation. The second dancer I didn't even watch, I was looking at my phone. When the second dancer came up to panhandle I said fuck this I'm out and finished my drink and bounced. Then I realized the airbnb I rented had fucking holes in the doors for ventilation and vents in the windows that you can't close. You heard every noise in every room. Slept maybe 4 hours tops due to the noise. Texted my host in the morning that it's not going to work out. He hooked me up with a deal for a nicer hotel, had to pay like 350 mil more for the 2 weeks. I have to wait til 3 to check in and I get here and it also has the uncloseable vent in the window. WTF? How is this a thing? How to Colombians sleep? FML. Not feeling Medellin so far. Kinda wish I stayed in Bogota. Hopefully it gets better.
Oh another thing, when the host made the change for me, I told him I needed a place where I could bring a guest back. He tells his wife this and she picks me up to take me to the hotel, and she's explaining this to the lady at the desk and they're telling me it's fine as long as it's only one person. Man I almost cringed to death. Now this hotel makes them sign in with ID and shit. Bruh.I have never been impressed with the high end strip clubs in Medellin. Too much money for much value.
About 2 weeks before arriving I set up an account on Whatsapp, Tinder, and Facebook and mentioned I was going to be in Medellin for a few days and wanted to meet some women to party with. In about a week I had begun getting a lot of responses on Tinder and Facebook in Spanish of girls saying they wanted to meet. I asked for photos and all of them sent sexy photos back. The conversation basically suggested they were DTF. Great so far.
After I arrived in Medellin I started contacting these girls over messenger and whatsapp that I'm here and ready to meet. I got hardly any responses back. I'm like. This is crazy. I'm here, I'm ready to party and have fun, but none of these chicas are responding. WTF? I remembered another ISG guy said he was in town recently and told him what was happening. He said "yeah, there are a bunch of scammers online especially on tinder. You got to watch out. " More about that later. Good news is that he hooked me up with a couple facebook profiles and said "yeah, hit up any of these girls and they'll take care of you. " Cool!
Day 2 I contacted one of the girls he put me in touch with that he said gave an amazing blowjob. After all the stress of day 1 I really needed a soft, warm, wet mouth to help me relax. He was not lying at all. She had a great body, super friendly and was a blowjob queen. After we did our thing, I asked her if she had any friends because I wanted to have some fun with two girls at the same time. She said she had a friend she could bring tomorrow. Cool...Wasn't it obvious that something bad was going to happen? I mean you with 2 random bitches you never met before, they acting funny, then you got the dude mean mugging you, and why would you let them tell you where to go, your the one paying, they go where you want to go or they can kick rocks and you go get another one in Botero for 40 k. I don't know why you had 2 and why you let them set you up. And when I seen the dude mean mugging me I would asked wtf he wanted. But I wouldn't have been in that situation in the first place.
But glad you didn't get shot. Next time save your self the drama and just go to Botero / Veracruz.
OK, this has been discussed ad nauseum many times. You don't understand how the ATMs work. You are getting the Visa Exchange Rate. So, if you go to Davienda and draw out 100 mil (for example) and then go to Colpatria and take out 100 mil and then you go to Banco Pichincha and take out 100 mil all on the same day and of course, if you are offered a bank rate or guaranteed rate or anything of that ilk, you just decline it. You will get 100 mil without a bank charge and it will be the exact same cost in US dollars at each bank.
If you do the same thing at Servibanca, Bancolombia or BBVA you will get the same exchange rate as above except these banks charge a fee. If you adjust the fee out it will the same cost in US dollars.
What you didn't understand is that you took out money at Davienda on one day and money from a different bank the next day etc. The exchange rate varies each day. Except for Saturday, Sunday and Monday where the exchange rate will be the same because the Visa Exchange rate set for Saturday doesn't get updated until Tuesday. There is a one day lag between what you see on XE as the mid-market rate and what you will receive at the ATM..BBVA doesn't charge a fee if you use capital one.
Stop spreading false information.
I arrived late last night so I decided to go to fase II. 20 mil cover, I pay it and go in and it's pretty dead. Not a good sign. I've already paid cover so I order a drink. 22 mil for a mini budweiser, not even a full bottle. Whatever, there are some hot girls around, not on stage though. The ones on stage was like a 6. 5. She finished dancing and comes and asks me for a tip for her dancing. I say no, that's what I paid cover for. At this point I'm pissed. It's not about the money, it's the principle. Like maybe you think I'm cheap for not wanting to give her 2 or 5 mil (assuming you have those bills, once you dig into your pocket it's game over) but I think the club the club is cheap if they pay their dancers so little that they have to panhandle. Anyway I was hoping it was a once off situation. The second dancer I didn't even watch, I was looking at my phone. When the second dancer came up to panhandle I said fuck this I'm out and finished my drink and bounced. Then I realized the airbnb I rented had fucking holes in the doors for ventilation and vents in the windows that you can't close. You heard every noise in every room. Slept maybe 4 hours tops due to the noise. Texted my host in the morning that it's not going to work out. He hooked me up with a deal for a nicer hotel, had to pay like 350 mil more for the 2 weeks. I have to wait til 3 to check in and I get here and it also has the uncloseable vent in the window. WTF? How is this a thing? How to Colombians sleep? FML. Not feeling Medellin so far. Kinda wish I stayed in Bogota. Hopefully it gets better.
Oh another thing, when the host made the change for me, I told him I needed a place where I could bring a guest back. He tells his wife this and she picks me up to take me to the hotel, and she's explaining this to the lady at the desk and they're telling me it's fine as long as it's only one person. Man I almost cringed to death. Now this hotel makes them sign in with ID and shit. Bruh.I think you missed the whole thing as far as strip clubs. The girls that go up to dance are paid by the 2 mil tips that everyone gives them. That is how it works. Your cover charge has nothing to do with it, what the club gives them to dance is probably 0, they are paid by the patrons that give them those tips. So by gettting bent out of shape about it you basically just insult everyone in the place. But that is just because you are looking at it from a totally different angle. That of a foreigner who has no idea of how these clubs work. When you go in make sure you have a stack of 2 mil bills, if you run out get the waiter guys to bring you change, and give them a 2 mil for their effort. Everything will then be cool and you can enjoy yourself. 2 mil is about 50 cents, that's what you pay to watch a girl dance on the stage. Of course you can refuse, and I doubt anything really bad would happen, but it is just not cool.
Main reason to go to Peru is Machu Picchu and Cuzco which is about as close to a must-see as you can get. Lima has an ok mongering scene, but you don't generally go to Peru to hang out in Lima only.I have been to Machu Picchu, Cuzco, Nazca, the Amazon, all over Perú. I don't favor it as a mongering destination. Mongered in Lima, Trujillo, Iquitos, and Arequipa.
But in my defense I was drunk and horny.That is my excuse for every single stupid thing I have ever done, and it's a weak one. Tinder is a leading source of problems. And it's been posted pretty much everywhere.
How do you find these women on FB?
If I search for Medellin, FB is looking for names that contain Medellin.
My plan is to just find some street action in el center or parquet Llera but having FB to find a dinner companion would be nice.
BBJCIM / BBFS is what I'm after.You need to actually RTFF and maybe you won't get robbed and beaten. You keep asking questions that have been answered over and over and you can't even spell the places you plan to go. And then you want to take hookers to dinner. No, no, no, and no. And RTFF. You are prime meat for the taking.
JamesPearle
11-03-22, 10:57
I had been all over the world and never had any problems. Easy to get comfortable and careless.
Because it's important and nobody seems to get it until after they've been robbed:
1. Stay away from Tinder. There are no secret hidden princesses there. It's either the same girls you can find elsewhere, or it's gangs setting up gringos to get robbed. Getting laid in Medellin is easier than getting fresh, hot fries from a fast food burger joint. Why greatly increase your risk of being robbed without improving your chances of getting laid?
2. Never session with 2 strangers. You're paying double to find out if the first girl is worth half the price. You also have someone to distract you while someone else can steal your stuff.
3. There's not an honest hooker in Medellin who will refuse to go into a bar or restaurant to eat or drink. If a girl refuses, or tries to steer you somewhere else, assume her intentions are not good..
JamesPearle
11-03-22, 11:52
AFAIK, someone can set up a bogus account and post fake pictures on any social media platform. In the future, I'm only dealing with social media profiles that are recommended by someone reliable. Definitely stay on high alert while you're there. Good luck.
Thanks for sharing. I'm from the US. Heading to Medellin mid December for my first visit.
I'm going to avoid tinder. Stick to street action and Clubs. Trying to figure out how to find girls on FB.
JamesPearle
11-03-22, 11:56
Poblado near Calle 10.
What part of Medellin were you in? I'm glad you didn't get hurt.
Frisky Frank
11-03-22, 13:27
You sound miserable. Why did you even go to Colombia? Between your complaints on the Bogota forum and now here, you should have stayed home. You're in the absolute best mongering destination in the world and you can't figure out how to have a good time? I almost feel sorry for you.
I arrived late last night so I decided to go to fase II. 20 mil cover, I pay it and go in and it's pretty dead. Not a good sign. I've already paid cover so I order a drink. 22 mil for a mini budweiser, not even a full bottle. Whatever, there are some hot girls around, not on stage though. The ones on stage was like a 6. 5. She finished dancing and comes and asks me for a tip for her dancing. I say no, that's what I paid cover for. At this point I'm pissed. It's not about the money, it's the principle. Like maybe you think I'm cheap for not wanting to give her 2 or 5 mil (assuming you have those bills, once you dig into your pocket it's game over) but I think the club the club is cheap if they pay their dancers so little that they have to panhandle. Anyway I was hoping it was a once off situation. The second dancer I didn't even watch, I was looking at my phone. When the second dancer came up to panhandle I said fuck this I'm out and finished my drink and bounced. Then I realized the airbnb I rented had fucking holes in the doors for ventilation and vents in the windows that you can't close. You heard every noise in every room. Slept maybe 4 hours tops due to the noise. Texted my host in the morning that it's not going to work out. He hooked me up with a deal for a nicer hotel, had to pay like 350 mil more for the 2 weeks. I have to wait til 3 to check in and I get here and it also has the uncloseable vent in the window. WTF? How is this a thing? How to Colombians sleep? FML. Not feeling Medellin so far. Kinda wish I stayed in Bogota. Hopefully it gets better..
I arrived late last night so I decided to go to fase II. 20 mil cover, I pay it and go in and it's pretty dead. Not a good sign. I've already paid cover so I order a drink. 22 mil for a mini budweiser, not even a full bottle. Whatever, there are some hot girls around, not on stage though. The ones on stage was like a 6. 5. She finished dancing and comes and asks me for a tip for her dancing. I say no, that's what I paid cover for. At this point I'm pissed. It's not about the money, it's the principle. Like maybe you think I'm cheap for not wanting to give her 2 or 5 mil (assuming you have those bills, once you dig into your pocket it's game over) but I think the club the club is cheap if they pay their dancers so little that they have to panhandle. Anyway I was hoping it was a once off situation. The second dancer I didn't even watch, I was looking at my phone. When the second dancer came up to panhandle I said fuck this I'm out and finished my drink and bounced. Then I realized the airbnb I rented had fucking holes in the doors for ventilation and vents in the windows that you can't close. You heard every noise in every room. Slept maybe 4 hours tops due to the noise. Texted my host in the morning that it's not going to work out. He hooked me up with a deal for a nicer hotel, had to pay like 350 mil more for the 2 weeks. I have to wait til 3 to check in and I get here and it also has the uncloseable vent in the window. WTF? How is this a thing? How to Colombians sleep? FML. Not feeling Medellin so far. Kinda wish I stayed in Bogota. Hopefully it gets better.
Oh another thing, when the host made the change for me, I told him I needed a place where I could bring a guest back. He tells his wife this and she picks me up to take me to the hotel, and she's explaining this to the lady at the desk and they're telling me it's fine as long as it's only one person. Man I almost cringed to death. Now this hotel makes them sign in with ID and shit. Bruh.Where are there strip clubs who pay their dancers? In every club I've been to in the US the dancers have to pay the club to work there. One place I was very familiar with they had to pay $40 to work a shift plus give part of their earnings to the DJ and the Bartender. Go to a US club and ask a girl how much she has to tip out.
In places where the dancers don't have to pay to work they're required to sell a certain number of lady drinks.
From the title I thought you had a legitimate complaint, but everything you're griping about is just the way things work.
I was paying $10 at the door and $5 a beer 20 years ago and the minimum tip was $1 instead of about 40 cents. You paid $9 for entry and a beer and got pissed off and left because 2 dancers asked for 40 cents?
You pay the fee, buy a beer and give the waiter 50 k and tell him you want change. He'll bring back 24 2 k bills (2 k tip for him). When a girl comes offstage and comes to your table you show her a 2 k bill. She will dance and rub on you, let you touch her and usually put in 10 k worth of effort for the 2 k tip. Repeat as necessary. Once girls see you're tipping they will be more interested. They're not going to bother with someone who paid $9 to sit and stare at his phone. Instead of pretending it's a phone booth, pretend you're in a strip club with naked women dancing and semi to fully naked women rubbing on you and trying to get you to fuck them. It makes for a much better experience.
Good luck finding an unvented place to stay, without going to a high dollar hotel. Buildings are designed to provide natural ventilation. With closed windows and no ventilation humidity builds up. Besides issues with mildew, it makes for hot rooms that aren't comfortable without air conditioning. If it's an apartment with a washing machine and stove the ventilation helps clothes to dry faster and prevents carbon monoxide buildup.
I admit, when I first arrived in Medellin my mind boggled at the vents and the lack of window screens, but it wasn't a problem. Just something to get used to.
I have never been impressed with the high end strip clubs in Medellin. Too much money for much value.If you're going solo to a strip club to find a girl, go to El Centro. If you're doing a night out with the guys, go to La Isla, buy a bottle and enjoy the show. Have fun.
SouthernOcean
11-03-22, 18:58
Went to La Isla last night. 50 k to get in and they wanted 95 k, yes I made sure, for a bottle of water. Some nice women but way to pricey for me. Went to Fase ll. 20 k to get in and 5 k for a bottle of water. Some very nice women there. Check out Parque Lleras and there where a few nice ones. Did not go to Gustos. Went to Botero today but must have wandered around the wrong part because I did not see but a couple.
Going to a casa called Angeles spa in a little while. Could use some advice on the best casas.
Very nice here so far. Airbnb is very nice for the money.
Well I am going to go get fucked. Have fun.
All strip clubs are stupid and a waste of money. Those 2 k bills could be put to much better use than giving them away for free for nothing. If you want sex 30 k in Centro, if want beer 3 k for a tall can Andina beer at your local tienda in the barrio. You want to waste money on bullshit, by all means go to the strip clubs like a dumb gringo.Maybe they're stupid and a waste for you, but you're not everybody. Maybe some guys don't mind tipping 25 cents or 50 cents to sip on a beer and watch dances, see if there may be someone there that interests him.
I normally don't hangout in the strip clubs, however, occasionally I will, even if just to chill a bit.
Nothing stupid and wasteful about it, if that's what one wants to do and enjoys it.
BBVA doesn't charge a fee if you use capital one.
Stop spreading false information.Not everyone uses Capital 1. Judging from the forum, not many use Capital 1. It's like the AOL of banks. Advertising constantly to hook the people too lazy to find something better.
What's the withdrawal limit at BBVA? 400 k? It's been awhile since I was desperate enough to use BBVA, but seems like the withdrawal limit along with the fee sucked. Why make 5 withdrawals and pay a fee (or change banks to avoid paying a fee) for a 400 k per withdrawal linit?
Can someone share with me contacts of girls on facebook or outside of facebook I could use when I go back to Colombia? I promise I will post a report with pictures after coming back. Thanks in advance.
Went to La Isla last night. 50 k to get in and they wanted 95 k, yes I made sure, for a bottle of water. Some nice women but way to pricey for me. Went to Fase ll. 20 k to get in and 5 k for a bottle of water. Some very nice women there. Check out Parque Lleras and there where a few nice ones. Did not go to Gustos. Went to Botero today but must have wandered around the wrong part because I did not see but a couple.
Going to a casa called Angeles spa in a little while. Could use some advice on the best casas.
Very nice here so far. Airbnb is very nice for the money.
Well I am going to go get fucked. Have fun.Lmao 95 k for a water, what a joke.
Mr Enternational
11-03-22, 20:47
Went to Botero today but must have wandered around the wrong part because I did not see but a couple.You have to walk down the alley on the side of the plaza where the church is and the street behind the museum, not just the middle of the square.
AmorPorFavor
11-03-22, 21:10
Poblado near Calle 10.Did they steal your phone? If so what did you do to replace it? That is one of my greatest concerns. Will be in MDE in 4 weeks for the first time for a week.
AmorPorFavor
11-03-22, 21:16
Lmao 95 k for a water, what a joke.So I won't be going to La Isla now.
Did they steal your phone? If so what did you do to replace it? That is one of my greatest concerns. Will be in MDE in 4 weeks for the first time for a week.Just get a cheap phone and use that for Colombia. Keep your regular one in the safe.
AmorPorFavor
11-03-22, 21:39
Just get a cheap phone and use that for Colombia. Keep your regular one in the safe.Where is a good place to buy a cheap phone in MDE?
Where is a good place to buy a cheap phone in MDE?Get an old unlocked iphone from amazon, that's where I get mine.
JamesPearle
11-03-22, 21:52
It sounds like you're super low on funds where you have to count every penny. You got to keep in mind that not everybody is in the same financial situation as you. A lot of people don't want the cheapest girl available or the cheapest drink or the cheapest hotel. That doesn't make them stupid.
All strip clubs are stupid and a waste of money. Those 2 k bills could be put to much better use than giving them away for free for nothing. If you want sex 30 k in Centro, if want beer 3 k for a tall can Andina beer at your local tienda in the barrio. You want to waste money on bullshit, by all means go to the strip clubs like a dumb gringo.
Mr Enternational
11-03-22, 22:45
Did they steal your phone? If so what did you do to replace it? That is one of my greatest concerns. Will be in MDE in 4 weeks for the first time for a week.Man up. Don't let somebody punk you out of carrying your usual phone.
Went to La Isla last night. 50 k to get in and they wanted 95 k, yes I made sure, for a bottle of water. Some nice women but way to pricey for me. Went to Fase ll. 20 k to get in and 5 k for a bottle of water. Some very nice women there. Check out Parque Lleras and there where a few nice ones. Did not go to Gustos. Went to Botero today but must have wandered around the wrong part because I did not see but a couple.
Going to a casa called Angeles spa in a little while. Could use some advice on the best casas.
Very nice here so far. Airbnb is very nice for the money.
Well I am going to go get fucked. Have fun.How was Angeles spa?
You need to actually RTFF and maybe you won't get robbed and beaten. You keep asking questions that have been answered over and over and you can't even spell the places you plan to go. And then you want to take hookers to dinner. No, no, no, and no. And RTFF. You are prime meat for the taking.I'm not a newbie.
I've mongered in jaco and Sousa.
I'm just exploring new experiences in Medellin- use FB and have someone to eat dinner with.
Doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to have sex with my dinner companion.
Everything is so cheap in Columbia. I have no issues dropping $30 for a young dinner companion to converse with.
It's not all just about sex.
Where is a good place to buy a cheap phone in MDE?In Centro. 100's of places. Hang around for a few hours and you might be able to biuy your stolen one back!
MaddTraveler
11-04-22, 03:00
Really? What's stupid is the "anyone who doesn't do everything my way is stupid" mentality. Considering that almost everything you post is a complaint, your way doesn't seem too appealing. Why choose a path that leaves one constantly pissed off at the world?
Strip clubs are an option. For some they are a good option. For others they aren't. Paying $4-$5 for a beer isn't going to break the bank. Paying $0. 40 for a naked woman to dance on your crotch for 2 minutes probably isn't going to wipe out your mongering budget. You can easily spend 2 hours in Barre Ejecutiva, drink 2 beers, feel up 20 women, fuck 1 woman and spend less than $40. Rather then be miserable and complaining on my vacation, I'll happily drop a whopping $40 for an evening's entertainment that includes beer and sex.
And 30 k for sex in El Centro doesn't include the cost of the room. Stop spreading false information.That rhetoric has been going for a nice min here, glad so see some of you vets chipping in. LOL. Like really? Tipping 2 k is literally $0. 40 cents and we must discuss it and cry about it? Not just once but for weeks now. Preciate your input JjBee62.
AFAIK, someone can set up a bogus account and post fake pictures on any social media platform. In the future, I'm only dealing with social media profiles that are recommended by someone reliable. Definitely stay on high alert while you're there. Good luck.Yes, but Tinder isn't a social media platform, it's an anonymous dating site. It's specifically designed to keep users from knowing anything about each other, making it perfect for those with bad intentions.
Facebook is harder, because an active account is a busy place. I don't bother with accounts that never post anything, where there's no interaction. It's hard to fake family and friends.
Lmao 95 k for a water, what a joke.I'm thinking there was some confusion. I'm not positive, but I believe the cheapest bottle of liquor is 95 k. You need to buy a bottle to get a seat on one of the couches. Instead of asking for a bottle of water, if he had asked for agua sin gas or con gas he probably would have gotten a much lower price, although it still wouldn't be cheap.
La Isla is in business to make money. They have a high cover charge to discourage those who just want to watch a free show. Their drink prices are high and if you're not spending money don't expect to be sitting by the stage. If you're just there to sip on a cheap bottle of water and try to get some whatsapp numbers they don't want you there, and quite frankly you don't belong there.
I've said this several times. If you want a strip club where you don't need to spend much money, go to El Centro. If you're going out with some friends and feel comfortable spending money go to La Isla. If you go to La Isla and then complain it was too expensive you need to learn how to do better research.
Where is a good place to buy a cheap phone in MDE?Walk under the Metro where it is elevated leaving the Parque Berrio Station past Hotel Nutibarra and directly underneath there will be vendors with little tables set up and selling used, meaning "stolen phones " starting at about 80 K and up. If your looking for something new, than you will find them all over Centro. If you walk from the Parque Berrio Metro Station headed to the Veracruz Church, almost every other store sells phones.
All strip clubs are stupid and a waste of money. Those 2 k bills could be put to much better use than giving them away for free for nothing. If you want sex 30 k in Centro, if want beer 3 k for a tall can Andina beer at your local tienda in the barrio. You want to waste money on bullshit, by all means go to the strip clubs like a dumb gringo.My approach was to watch the locals. And in the centro clubs the locals are not all high rollers. And when the chica came around for tips after she danced almost everyone shelled out the 2 mil tip. It was simply the business model of the place. I don't even think of it as a tip, I just think of it as paying for the entertainment, 40 or 50 cents at a time. Of course it is optional. If you didn't like the dance that much save your 2 mil and leave.
One doesn't have to tip either. Girls will still dance even if you don't tip. Many of the Colombians don't tip, and its not a foreigner tax. .
I see it though, rather like tipping a waiter / waitress in a restaurant. Maybe Gabacho thinks we should not use restaurants either?It is two different situations when compared to El Centro. I am not familiar with FASE 2 but I guess it is similar to La Isla that they won't take less than 2 mil. They think they are entitled. I just go with the flow and don't even think about the money. One can consider the tip as a payment to grope the dancer. It's less than 20 USD even if you stay and tip all night.
It is two different situations when compared to El Centro. I am not familiar with FASE 2 but I guess it is similar to La Isla that they won't take less than 2 mil. They think they are entitled. I just go with the flow and don't even think about the money. One can consider the tip as a payment to grope the dancer. It's less than 20 USD even if you stay and tip all night.I'm not sure Colombia is still printing the 1 k bills. Every one I've seen was old and worn out. Tipping with coins in a strip club is bad form.
...Does anyone go to Gustos ... Thursday?I went based on the report. It's pretty packed. The quality is not as high as La Isla. I probably can pick 3 or 4 better looking ones out of maybe 40 to 60 girls but they are older when they told me their age. LOL. I am pretty sure 80% of the girls are no better than El Centro or Facebook. By that I mean it is easy to find better or the same elsewhere. It's packed and loud so it is not easy to talk unless you go out to the patio. I went thinking about following the playbook described but I don't see anyone that is worth my effort tonight. The best looking one to me is Mariana or similar, 24,200 USD for 1 hour, and 300 USD for 2 hours. A second Mariana is exotics looking, 21,300 USD for an hour. I asked how much was in COP. She showed me on her phone and it was more than 1. 5 million. These girls don't even look high end. I can see some facial blemish too. The crowd is not high end either when compared to other high end clubs elsewhere. BTW, I myself don't look high end either. LOL. I may go again when I am free just so I don't miss the hot ones. Hehe.
It seems that all the street actions are pushed up to Calle 10. I talked to a tall slender one that I liked but she was 23. She wants 300 K.
All strip clubs are stupid and a waste of money. Those 2 k bills could be put to much better use than giving them away for free for nothing. If you want sex 30 k in Centro, if want beer 3 k for a tall can Andina beer at your local tienda in the barrio. You want to waste money on bullshit, by all means go to the strip clubs like a dumb gringo.Absolutely agreed, before you even sit down at the table, some of the girls are already asking for a propina. I recall instances where the girls would go on the stage less than a minute and go around and pester (usually the gringos) patrons for tips. Usually, the ugly girls are the one's dancing on stage and if you can tell their ugly on a dark stage, especially from the back of the club, believe me their ugly! A 5 can look like a 10, depending on how dark and how well the dark lights work. The only decent rooms are at Conejitas. The other strip clubs in that area you have to take the girls outside for a decent room. At least on the street and in the Casa's, you get to see what you're paying for.
Absolutely agreed, before you even sit down at the table, some of the girls are already asking for a propina. I recall instances where the girls would go on the stage less than a minute and go around and pester (usually the gringos) patrons for tips. Usually, the ugly girls are the one's dancing on stage and if you can tell their ugly on a dark stage, especially from the back of the club, believe me their ugly! A 5 can look like a 10, depending on how dark and how well the dark lights work. The only decent rooms are at Conejitas. The other strip clubs in that area you have to take the girls outside for a decent room. At least on the street and in the Casa's, you get to see what you're paying for.Damn and I thought I was a cheap bastard LOL. I also never had anyone pester me for a tip and I will decline from time to time especially if I just got to the place or wasn't paying attention to the stage at all.
....Day 4 one of the Tinder chicas contacted me over whatsapp and asked if I still wanted to meet up with her and her friend. By this time I had forgotten the advice from 3 days earlier and said sure. I arrived at a club around 9 pm and had several drinks before the two chicas showed up. I went outside to meet them. They were pretty average looking but as I didn't have anything else lined up, I thought I would see where this would lead. Out of the corner of my eye I noticed some dude looking at me real hard. I figured he was salty because I was a gringo chatting up a couple of local women and ignored him. Continued my small talk with the chicas. I asked them to come inside the club. They said they did not want to go inside and just wanted to go back to my place. I'm thinking. Whoa - these girls want to get right to it! Great. So I called an uber. Uber drops us off at my apartment. When we got out the girls said "hey, let's get some drinks before we go inside. There's a bar down the street we can go to. " Yes, I know what you're thinking. But in my defense I was drunk and horny. I said OK and we started walking and talking. After about 3-4 minutes, a car screeches to a stop right next to us. Two guys hop out. One points a gun directly at me, doesn't say anything, and just stares at me like he would absolutely love to pull the trigger. I put my hands up and said "hay no problema. " The girls that were giggling and chatting with me only seconds ago worked with the driver to shake me down. Seconds later they all hopped in the car and sped off. The stuff they stole was all easily replaceable and the money was pocket change. The thing I really didn't like was having a gun pointed at me. I later saw that the tinder profile was cancelled so the whole thing was a scam. Who knows how many of the other tinder or facebook accounts are also scams.
Hope this helps others. Good luck and stay safe.Perhaps guys in similar situations should ask to take a photo of the girls on first meeting them. If they refuse, cancel.
Mr Enternational
11-04-22, 18:46
I'm thinking there was some confusion. I'm not positive, but I believe the cheapest bottle of liquor is 95 k. You need to buy a bottle to get a seat on one of the couches. Instead of asking for a bottle of water, if he had asked for agua sin gas or con gas he probably would have gotten a much lower price, Not sure if he knows Spanish. Could have been agua-rdiente.
I'm not a newbie.
I've mongered in jaco and Sousa.
I'm just exploring new experiences in Medellin- use FB and have someone to eat dinner with.
Doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to have sex with my dinner companion.
Everything is so cheap in Columbia. I have no issues dropping $30 for a young dinner companion to converse with.
It's not all just about sex.I'm not attacking you here, so keep calm. Jaco and Sosua don't earn you a lot of mongering street cred. Neither place is difficult and there's not a steep learning curve. The most common risk is being overcharged.
There's nothing wrong with just finding girls who will just have dinner and talk. However, some precautions are prudent.
DonMedellin
11-04-22, 19:25
My buddy just texted me that he got 5000+ cop per USD out of the ATM. Unfortunately I am not in Colombia at this moment. Have prices gone up for food and rent noticeablly in the past 2 months as well? And how is mongering like now, still same rates at casas?
... And how is mongering like now, still same rates at casas?
.... A second Mariana is exotics looking, 21,300 USD for an hour. I asked how much was in COP. She showed me on her phone and it was more than 1. 5 million. ....Based on my observation, the price has gone up. LOL.
I'm not sure Colombia is still printing the 1 k bills. Every one I've seen was old and worn out. Tipping with coins in a strip club is bad form.That was during my first visit, A gringo who lived locally told me he kept 1 mil bill for tip. I had one bill so I tipped the La Isla dancer but she insisted that I gave her 2 mil.
That was during my first visit, A gringo who lived locally told me he kept 1 mil bill for tip. I had one bill so I tipped the La Isla dancer but she insisted that I gave her 2 mil.That letting them walk around with big plastic bags asking for tips will be the death of them, horrible policy, give girls bad attitude and service! I'm not cheap by any means, and been in strip club biz for many years! I will tip for good service and good attitude, not just a girl standing in front of me me bag wide open and pissed off if not tip!
All strip clubs are stupid and a waste of money. Those 2 k bills could be put to much better use than giving them away for free for nothing. If you want sex 30 k in Centro, if want beer 3 k for a tall can Andina beer at your local tienda in the barrio. You want to waste money on bullshit, by all means go to the strip clubs like a dumb gringo.As others have noted, I personally find spending $0. 40, or $1 for that matter, for a young Paisa to dance on my crotch for 1-2 minutes high value used of my money, but to each their own.
I arrived late last night so I decided to go to fase II. 20 mil cover
..... She finished dancing and comes and asks me for a tip for her dancing. I say no, that's what I paid cover for. At this point I'm pissed. It's not about the money, it's the principle.
... Oh another thing, when the host made the change for me, I told him I needed a place where I could bring a guest back. He tells his wife this and she picks me up to take me to the hotel, and she's explaining this to the lady at the desk and they're telling me it's fine as long as it's only one person. Man I almost cringed to death. Now this hotel makes them sign in with ID and shit. Bruh.I hate to be that guy, but all of this is in the forum. Also, I was at Fase II last night (Thursday) and they charge 30 k cover. I'm not sure if that's based on night or just the new cover for all nights.
Day 4 in Medellin, continuing to have a shit time.
All the strippers are panhandlers, they come up to you demanding a tip and even if you give them one they don't thank you, they just walk off with a shit attitude like they shouldn't even have to ask.
Found a cute street girl but forgot to bring my own condom, tried to use the one from the hotel and it was cutting off circulation to my dick, coudn't stay hard, left with blue balls.
A casa sent me photos of all the girls working there, they all looked like 10's. Got there and they were all 6's at best except one who was a bit hotter. Picked her and she just fucking abused the shit out of my dick (not in a good way) to make me cum in 5 minutes even though I paid for an hour. Like she had a deathgrip for the HJ and when she mounted me she was like going as fast as she could. I didn't cum within the first 30 seconds and she gave me a little slap as if to say wtf, most guys cum by now. Then she went in doggy as if to say I'm done doing all the work. Started to get my Rhythm and then she started going back and forth fast and I just had a really unpleasant finish. I got up and left all pissed off.
I had one decent session with a girl from photoprepagos but she wasn't nearly as hot as her photos. Not going to bother finding the link but she has blue hair, you'll see her if you look. Booked another session with a photoprepagos girl but she kept me waiting outside for 20+ minutes after our appointment was supposed to start, said fuck this and left.
I have a bunch of seeking girls lined up but from the little bit of communication they offer, I can't help but sense micro-examples of shit attitudes, can't bring myself to pay the prices they are asking with my suspicions that they are probably going to be stuck up bitches. Like they'll take forever to respond but if I don't respond right away they'll hit me with the " Or just purposely being slow and bad at communicating and then they'll want to reschedule when it's taking to long to work out the details. Or I'll suggest a short time hotel that looks decent and they'll be like "no conoces un mejor?" Like no, I don't, this is your city, and plus we're only using the hotel as a place to fuck, why do you care so much? I know I'm kinda throwing the baby out with the bathwater. My shit attitude from my shit experiences is causing a cascading effect and it's only going to cause more shit experiences but fuck, I can't help it. I just feel like these girls all think they're all supermodels rather than hookers. I just wish I went to Brazil or stayed in Bogota. Just needed to vent. Feel free to tell me to stfu.
DonCarlos1234
11-05-22, 03:22
All strip clubs are stupid and a waste of money. Those 2 k bills could be put to much better use than giving them away for free for nothing. If you want sex 30 k in Centro, if want beer 3 k for a tall can Andina beer at your local tienda in the barrio. You want to waste money on bullshit, by all means go to the strip clubs like a dumb gringo.So wait, you have all of la Isla girls come by you and flash their stuff. You give everyone 2,000 cop and this means you spend 100,000 COP during the entire evening. About $20 usd. LOL That SUCKS.
No where in the USA can you do this without the bouncer slapping you around for what I'm thinking you will be doing when he is not watching. WAIT, no one cares about contact in La Isla. Sucks.
BTW many times I have gotten change for my HUGE 100,000 COP note so I can tip wandering dancers.
Meanwhile there are tables full of "weekend warriors" possibly next to the stage who are have 10 X more fun than you ever had in your life. SUCKS again.
I will be there November. I think I will double that tip. Hell make it $1 per girl!
I hate to be that guy, but all of this is in the forum. Also, I was at Fase II last night (Thursday) and they charge 30 k cover. I'm not sure if that's based on night or just the new cover for all nights.Dude there's only so much of the forum I can read when 1 out of 20 posts is a report and the rest is people arguing over definitions of pros and semi pros and how much of a difference good chemistry makes etc etc. Could have avoided the mistakes if I read the entire forum. Cool. Still not going to.
Where are there strip clubs who pay their dancers? In every club I've been to in the US the dancers have to pay the club to work there. One place I was very familiar with they had to pay $40 to work a shift plus give part of their earnings to the DJ and the Bartender. Go to a US club and ask a girl how much she has to tip out.
In places where the dancers don't have to pay to work they're required to sell a certain number of lady drinks.
From the title I thought you had a legitimate complaint, but everything you're griping about is just the way things work.
I was paying $10 at the door and $5 a beer 20 years ago and the minimum tip was $1 instead of about 40 cents. You paid $9 for entry and a beer and got pissed off and left because 2 dancers asked for 40 cents?
You pay the fee, buy a beer and give the waiter 50 k and tell him you want change. He'll bring back 24 2 k bills (2 k tip for him). When a girl comes offstage and comes to your table you show her a 2 k bill. She will dance and rub on you, let you touch her and usually put in 10 k worth of effort for the 2 k tip. Repeat as necessary. Once girls see you're tipping they will be more interested. They're not going to bother with someone who paid $9 to sit and stare at his phone. Instead of pretending it's a phone booth, pretend you're in a strip club with naked women dancing and semi to fully naked women rubbing on you and trying to get you to fuck them. It makes for a much better experience.
Did you miss the part where I said I was not into either of the dancers? I have no problem tipping girls I want attention from. That system makes sense and is consistent with them paying the club to work there. But if I didn't even watch you dancer and I don't want any attention from her, and I paid a cover to get in and overpaid for a drink, then no, they don't deserve a tip. Like I said it's not about the money, it's about the principle. I have to tip the bartender to get small bills to tip girls that I don't want attention from just for doing their job? Stop trying to act like I'm the one being ridiculous. The system is stupid.
I'm with you. If I can't afford to lose something or have it stolen then I don't want to own it. Life is short.
Man up. Don't let somebody punk you out of carrying your usual phone.
A little more than two years ago during the lockdown the US dollar reached a record high of 4,000 pesos. About one year ago the US dollar reached 4,000 again. You know where it is now. There are contracted costs like residential leases, gym memberships, and Internet subscriptions that don't increase. Food costs are up. A roast chicken at Exito used to cost 13,000, now it's 18,000. When it was 13,000 the dollar was at 4,000. Now the 18.000 chicken with the peso at 5,000 costs less than US $0. 25 more than it used to. You don't need to be concerned. Moving on to casas, most of them have increased in cost by 5,000 pesos, about 10% to 15% more while the value of the US vs. The peso has increased by more than 20%. You don't need to be concerned about that either.
My buddy just texted me that he got 5000+ cop per USD out of the ATM. Unfortunately I am not in Colombia at this moment. Have prices gone up for food and rent noticeablly in the past 2 months as well? And how is mongering like now, still same rates at casas?
Nil Admirari
11-05-22, 13:44
I hate to be that guy, but all of this is in the forum. Also, I was at Fase II last night (Thursday) and they charge 30 k cover. I'm not sure if that's based on night or just the new cover for all nights.I'm back in Hometown, USA, now but I vaguely recall from my Medellin foray in August / September that Fase II had begun to charge the higher 30 k cover on Thursday through Saturday nights, but had left the entry charge unchanged other nights. I think on those three busier nights they had also started to insist on a relatively hefty (by Medellin standards) minimum drink order.
So wait, you have all of la Isla girls come by you and flash their stuff. You give everyone 2,000 cop and this means you spend 100,000 COP during the entire evening. About $20 usd. LOL That SUCKS.
No where in the USA can you do this without the bouncer slapping you around for what I'm thinking you will be doing when he is not watching. WAIT, no one cares about contact in La Isla. Sucks.
BTW many times I have gotten change for my HUGE 100,000 COP note so I can tip wandering dancers.
Meanwhile there are tables full of "weekend warriors" possibly next to the stage who are have 10 X more fun than you ever had in your life. SUCKS again.
I will be there November. I think I will double that tip. Hell make it $1 per girl!Yes giving away your money for free even if it's 2 mil at a time fucking sucks but hey different strokes for different folks. And comparing medellin to anywhere in the US simply doesn't make any sense, there are many things you can do here that you can't do in the US, it's apples to oranges. And for your information I've been here since August and it already is November, and I didn't do it by making it rain in stupid strip clubs. And I seriously doubt you have had more fun than me, albeit we may have a different definition of what fun is, how many of these strip club girls have you barebacked? How many stay with you for a week straight like a girlfriend? How many have you traveled with thru Colombia to different pueblos by bus? Yea I think we have different definitions of what fun is and I seriously doubt you have had more fun than I have had in Colombia.
And 30 k for sex in El Centro doesn't include the cost of the room. Stop spreading false information.It's funny you say this because actually about a week ago I had went to the veracruz church area with exactly 30 mil in my wallet (I also had 10 mil hidden to have food and bus money) and anyways I went up to several chicas asking cuanto cobras? I found a halfway decent looking one that said 30 mil to which I replied "pero solo tengo exactamente 30 mil" and I even pulled out my wallet and showed her the 20 mil and 10 mil bills that I had. And then I was like "vamos o no?" and she replied "esta bien vamos" she took me to brisas de jardin around the corner there across from the panaderia. It ended up being 10 k for the pieza and 20 k for her and she even gave me BBBJ without me even asking for it. Then we had condom sex. The session was still pretty decent and I was able to finish.
So actually it can be 30 k even including the room. However I do agree this is not the norm and I was quite surprised myself.
So technically not false information.
A little more than two years ago during the lockdown the US dollar reached a record high of 4,000 pesos. About one year ago the US dollar reached 4,000 again. You know where it is now. There are contracted costs like residential leases, gym memberships, and Internet subscriptions that don't increase. Food costs are up. A roast chicken at Exito used to cost 13,000, now it's 18,000. When it was 13,000 the dollar was at 4,000. Now the 18.000 chicken with the peso at 5,000 costs less than US $0. 25 more than it used to. You don't need to be concerned. Moving on to casas, most of them have increased in cost by 5,000 pesos, about 10% to 15% more while the value of the US vs. The peso has increased by more than 20%. You don't need to be concerned about that either.My rent is the same 500 mil per month but I'm in a lease so it can't change. The cost of the 1.75 liter coca cola at D1 used to be 3950 pesos and now it's 4500. I've noticed prices in food have gone up a little. The metro is still 2580 if you have a personalized civica card and I believe 2830 if you have the eventual card. Centro street girls prices haven't changed at all.
Did you miss the part where I said I was not into either of the dancers? I have no problem tipping girls I want attention from. That system makes sense and is consistent with them paying the club to work there. But if I didn't even watch you dancer and I don't want any attention from her, and I paid a cover to get in and overpaid for a drink, then no, they don't deserve a tip. Like I said it's not about the money, it's about the principle. I have to tip the bartender to get small bills to tip girls that I don't want attention from just for doing their job? Stop trying to act like I'm the one being ridiculous. The system is stupid.You do know that the girls talk amongst each other and will think you're a cheap ass if you're not tipping their friends correct? Perhaps you don't care which is fair. I just tip all of them a base 2 k as they're working hard and if I want a little bit more attention I'll do 4 k or 6 k in strategically placed places allowing me to get to know them better. The girls know that they will get a tip from me so they come with a smile on their face and usually try to work hard for a little bit more. They sit and chat in between sets. Yes, I know I'm paying for company, but it breeds jealously and competition amongst them. Life is too short.
Dude there's only so much of the forum I can read when 1 out of 20 posts is a report and the rest is people arguing over definitions of pros and semi pros and how much of a difference good chemistry makes etc etc. Could have avoided the mistakes if I read the entire forum. Cool. Still not going to.There's a search function for a reason. Also not much as really changed in Medellin as far as mongering so don't expect people to keep repeating the same things over and over.
It's funny you say this because actually about a week ago I had went to the veracruz church area with exactly 30 mil in my wallet (I also had 10 mil hidden to have food and bus money) and anyways I went up to several chicas asking cuanto cobras? I found a halfway decent looking one that said 30 mil to which I replied "pero solo tengo exactamente 30 mil" and I even pulled out my wallet and showed her the 20 mil and 10 mil bills that I had. And then I was like "vamos o no?" and she replied "esta bien vamos" she took me to brisas de jardin around the corner there across from the panaderia. It ended up being 10 k for the pieza and 20 k for her and she even gave me BBBJ without me even asking for it. Then we had condom sex. The session was still pretty decent and I was able to finish.
So actually it can be 30 k even including the room. However I do agree this is not the norm and I was quite surprised myself.
So technically not false information.Not really that surprising at all.
I've seen dozens of what I call "failed negotiations" in Centro, as a lot of the locals, at least the cheap charlies just make offers as to what they will pay the girls, and it's normal for guys to throw out a 20 mil quote, not including the room, and eventually they will get someone who will take it, but granted these are not the the beauty queens taking them up on this.
I suppose one could make the argument that you overpaid by a few mil if you had chosen a lower tier room.
Lots of times girls show up in Centro and if they haven't snagged a customer by the time they have to leave, they will accept a low ball offer which sounds like what may of happened to you, but again what transpired is not that abnormal at least for locals versus foreigners.
What Jb2 was referencing in his post is what I call the "rack rate" or the default rate quoted to locals.
I guess the mind blowing part of all of this is that you basically paid $ 5 USD to get sucked and fucked.
It's funny you say this because actually about a week ago I had went to the veracruz church area with exactly 30 mil in my wallet (I also had 10 mil hidden to have food and bus money) and anyways I went up to several chicas asking cuanto cobras? I found a halfway decent looking one that said 30 mil to which I replied "pero solo tengo exactamente 30 mil" and I even pulled out my wallet and showed her the 20 mil and 10 mil bills that I had. And then I was like "vamos o no?" and she replied "esta bien vamos" she took me to brisas de jardin around the corner there across from the panaderia. It ended up being 10 k for the pieza and 20 k for her and she even gave me BBBJ without me even asking for it. Then we had condom sex. The session was still pretty decent and I was able to finish.
So actually it can be 30 k even including the room. However I do agree this is not the norm and I was quite surprised myself.
So technically not false information.In my experience you met a local paisa girl from Medellin (non- venezuelan) and paid the locals price which does not include a gringo tip. Great job.
Did you miss the part where I said I was not into either of the dancers? I have no problem tipping girls I want attention from. That system makes sense and is consistent with them paying the club to work there. But if I didn't even watch you dancer and I don't want any attention from her, and I paid a cover to get in and overpaid for a drink, then no, they don't deserve a tip. Like I said it's not about the money, it's about the principle. I have to tip the bartender to get small bills to tip girls that I don't want attention from just for doing their job? Stop trying to act like I'm the one being ridiculous. The system is stupid.No. Didn't miss it, it was just completely useless, so I didn't bother with it.
I've spent way too much time in strip clubs. I've known lot of strippers, in the US, at a time and place where nothing happened at the club. Had 3 different strippers rent my spare room from me. At that time practically everyone in the club was my friend.
Do you know what happens if a dancer only asks for tips from guys who act interested? They don't make any money. If they don't make money, they don't come to work. If they don't come to work you end up with only the old, fat and ugly girls working. And then all the cheap ass pricks can't understand why the club doesn't have better dancers.
It's ridiculously easy. However, it only works if you're not going to be a pissed off, whining douche bag. If you're going to walk around with a shit attitude you're going to have only shit experiences.
When a girl comes offstage she makes the rounds. Rather than trying to memorize every person in the club and categorize them by displayed interest (not an easy task in a crowded club where you're in the light and they're in the dark), account for customers who are moving around, ir might be in the bathroom, they just make the rounds and ask everyone. They ask, because if they don't ask they don't get paid.
Instead of getting pissed off because they are trying to get paid for doing the exact thing you came to see, you only need to do 1 of 2 things.
1. You turn towards the girl, spread your legs and pull a 2 k bill out of your pocket. Hold the bill in your hand and see how hard she will work to get it. Once you're done getting a feel, slip the 2 k bill into her panties and she'll move on. You just spent a whopping 40 cents, so recalculate to determine how many seconds you'll need to work to recoup such an extravagant expenditure. Meanwhile, wait for the next one.
2. You turn towards the girl, shake your head slightly and say "no gracias. " It takes 1 second. Over the course of an hour, you might have to spend several minutes looking at girls and deciding if you're interested enough, or enjoyed the show enough to hand over 40 cents.
The really crazy part is, you're in the club looking for girls you might be interested in, but when the girls come up, giving you the opportunity to see if you're interested, you get pissed off because they're asking for the price of a stick of gum for dancing around naked for 10 minutes. Meanwhile, the girls who you would be interested in are talking in the dressing room with the girls hearing about the pissed off gringo who won't tip anyone.
I'm not acting like you're the one being ridiculous. You're being ridiculous. They're hookers with slightly better shoes. They're not Behavioral Analysts, they're not mind readers, just dancers trying to make a living. The only way they know if you're interested is if they come over and ask. Unless you're drooling like a Saint Bernard and humping their leg they can't tell if you're interested or not. A system where the girls all sit around waiting for guys to tell them they're interested is a system where customers don't spend any money and girls don't make any money. It's also a system where clubs don't make any money.
It's funny you say this because actually about a week ago I had went to the veracruz church area with exactly 30 mil in my wallet (I also had 10 mil hidden to have food and bus money) and anyways I went up to several chicas asking cuanto cobras? I found a halfway decent looking one that said 30 mil to which I replied "pero solo tengo exactamente 30 mil" and I even pulled out my wallet and showed her the 20 mil and 10 mil bills that I had. And then I was like "vamos o no?" and she replied "esta bien vamos" she took me to brisas de jardin around the corner there across from the panaderia. It ended up being 10 k for the pieza and 20 k for her and she even gave me BBBJ without me even asking for it. Then we had condom sex. The session was still pretty decent and I was able to finish.
So actually it can be 30 k even including the room. However I do agree this is not the norm and I was quite surprised myself.
So technically not false information.And BBVA charges a fee to people who aren't using a Capital 1 card, meaning that was also not false information. Did the irony escape you?
SouthernOcean
11-05-22, 20:01
Did not make it to Angeles spa Thursday. Hooked up with a SW near my hotel in Parque Lleras. This town is great. My question is El Centro. I went to Botero park and enjoyed the scuptures, had a good meal but did not see many hookers. Walked around for a while but must have done something stupid. I can not find the map in Distinguished posts so I am relying on your patience for some help. Where are they. Probably going back to Fase 2 tonight. Some very nice looking talent there.
Yes giving away your money for free even if it's 2 mil at a time fucking sucks but hey different strokes for different folks. And comparing medellin to anywhere in the US simply doesn't make any sense, there are many things you can do here that you can't do in the US, it's apples to oranges. And for your information I've been here since August and it already is November, and I didn't do it by making it rain in stupid strip clubs. And I seriously doubt you have had more fun than me, albeit we may have a different definition of what fun is, how many of these strip club girls have you barebacked? How many stay with you for a week straight like a girlfriend? How many have you traveled with thru Colombia to different pueblos by bus? Yea I think we have different definitions of what fun is and I seriously doubt you have had more fun than I have had in Colombia.You're not giving away 2 k. You're exchanging it. Not only are you exchanging it, you're getting a good bargain.
The girl is giving you a chance to see her up close, see how she moves, feel her body and even find out what she smells like. Not only that, you're letting every girl in the club know you're not just there to watch for free. The best looking girls go where the money is. If you're just sitting around pissed off and not spending money, they aren't wasting their time on you.
If you smile, spend a few dollars, speak a bit of Spanish you can easily get the girls you don't want to bring you the girl you do want.
Strip Clubs in the US now aren't much different. After coming offstage they make the rounds. There aren't any bedrooms, but the VIP room has seen plenty of blowjobs and fucks. And the last time I went I was amazed at the amount of touching I was encouraged to do.
Making it rain? We're talking about spending 2 k every 4 or 5 minutes. You might be spending 30 k per hour. If $6 is crucial to your plans, you need to be better at planning.
Travel throughout Colombia by bus? Fuck that. I can understand being cheap. I can understand being a masochist. I just can't understand taking tortuous bus rides for cheap masochistic thrills. Do you ask the bus driver to call you his ***** whenever you get jerked around by his driving?
Rent a car, you can have your girl masturbating in the passenger seat. Rent a moto. She can ride with her hand down your pants. Take a plane. You get there quicker and you're not exhausted from the bus ride.
Did not make it to Angeles spa Thursday. Hooked up with a SW near my hotel in Parque Lleras. This town is great. My question is El Centro. I went to Botero park and enjoyed the scuptures, had a good meal but did not see many hookers. Walked around for a while but must have done something stupid. I can not find the map in Distinguished posts so I am relying on your patience for some help. Where are they. Probably going back to Fase 2 tonight. Some very nice looking talent there.Did you walk behind the white church?
SouthernOcean
11-05-22, 20:51
Did you walk behind the white church?Is the white church visible from the park with all the statues.
Is the white church visible from the park with all the statues.Walk thru the area w the most statues, down the slope towards the entrance of the museum. Then veer left on the paved area, and you will walk in to a busy area with lots of restaurant hustlers, and a chucg on the right (Veracruz). There are lots of girls there near the entrance to the church, then on the street down the side, and the road immediately behnd the church. Loads of short time hotels too. If she's not selling coffee, she's probably selling sex. And some of those are too.
... have no problem tipping girls I want attention from. That system makes sense and is consistent with them paying the club to work there. ...It is how that club works, you will enjoy yourself more if you pretend you like all the girls asking for tip and get something out of it. You are not likely to have the same problem if you go to the clubs in El Centro.
Yes giving away your money for free even if it's 2 mil at a time fucking sucks....It's not free. The girl does give something in return.
I'm with you. If I can't afford to lose something or have it stolen then I don't want to own it. Life is short.It's what is stored in the phone, not the phone itself.
It's what is stored in the phone, not the phone itself.It's actually quite a bit more than that if it's a cell with service from the USA.
As an example I have Verizon and if I lose my phone in Colombia, I have no way of replacing my service with that number in Colombia, where as if you have a Colombian number and it's registered you can get your same number back, if it's registered, but as you mention you will lose all your stored data.
In addition to this, a guy with an American cell will be hosed, and not be able to get text messages, alerts, and two step verification required at times which will be very problematic.
I guard my American cell like I do my Passport.
It's actually quite a bit more than that if it's a cell with service from the USA....I think you can buy a phone in Colombia and download the eSIM from your US cell provider to restore the number.
You're not giving away 2 k. You're exchanging it. Not only are you exchanging it, you're getting a good bargain.
The girl is giving you a chance to see her up close, see how she moves, feel her body and even find out what she smells like. Not only that, you're letting every girl in the club know you're not just there to watch for free. The best looking girls go where the money is. If you're just sitting around pissed off and not spending money, they aren't wasting their time on you.Yea in other words your giving away the money for free. I can see their faces and bodies and smell them while talking to them outside the st hotels. If I'm not getting my dick yet then it's not a bargain it's a waste of money. Your not going to win that argument jb2, I respect you but your wrong on this one.
Travel throughout Colombia by bus? Fuck that. I can understand being cheap. I can understand being a masochist. I just can't understand taking tortuous bus rides for cheap masochistic thrills. Do you ask the bus driver to call you his ***** whenever you get jerked around by his driving?As for traveling by bus I took a vennie (who only had her Venezuelan cedula so she couldn't fly) from medellin to Santa Marta and back by bus. We went thru Caucasia, Monteria, Sincelejo, and Barranquilla in the way there. The bus ride was almost as much fun as Santa Marta was, seeing the landscape with all the mountains covered in banana trees and palms was really cool. Stopping off in little towns like Santa Rosa de LOS Osos to eat and meet and talk to locals was an experience I enjoyed. I've also taken another vennie from Bogota to melgar to enjoy the piscinas and toboganes there. And I have taken solo bus rides between cucuta and bucaramanga and also between Tolima and Cali. I love the sceneries, the mountains, rivers, cliff drop offs, you don't really see all that in a plane. I agree it can be time consuming especially on the 2 lane highways and especially when they're doing construction but it's still fun and especially if you have a chica with you to share the experience. And no I didn't ask the driver to call me his *****, why the disrespect bro?
I think you can buy a phone in Colombia and download the eSIM from your US cell provider to restore the number.Not sure about that, about a year ago I was told by Verizon that you actually needed a physical SIM card from them to do that but maybe the technology has changed.
Regardless, I brought some Verizon SIM cards with me, but perhaps this has changed. What I do know is that a lot of guys who don't have USA phones in Colombia with International service have issues getting text messages and going thru two step verification which is becoming more and more common. Google I believe has recently started implementing it.
But I really don't know much about this except the problems I hear other guys are encountering in Colombia without a USA phone with International service.
SouthernOcean
11-06-22, 05:02
Thanks to JustTK for the info.
Is Central by the Botero busy on Sunday during the day?
Thanks.
Was trying for like 3 days to set something up with a girl from photoprepagos. She completely blew me off last night after saying she would be ready at 10 pm and I said message me when you're ready to confirm. Then she has the nerve to act like I'm the one making it diffcult to schedule something so I finally say "olviado, no me interesa".
Met up with a chick from seeking who wanted 500 mil. She looked really hot in her photos, but she was not worth close to 500. I paid for her dinner and taxi both ways. I feel like a chump but not as much as I would have felt if I paid another 500 mil to hook up with her. Went back to my hotel and messaged another girl on seeking. I send her the name of my hotel and a screenshot of the location and she says she will be here at 1 am (it's like 11:45) I say ok and she texts me at 1:15 asking for my address. I ask if she's close and she says "no se donde estas". WTF? A) you're telling me you haven't even called the taxi and you were supposed to be here 15 mintues ago and B) you could easily hide that info from me if you didn't think you were too good to google my hotel. I called her a ***** and said forget it. Fuck these bitches, they have such inflated egos. I'm so over this shit.
It's not free. The girl does give something in return.Bullshit. Sometimes they don't even say thank you.
Yes giving away your money for free even if it's 2 mil at a time fucking sucks but hey different strokes for different folks. And comparing medellin to anywhere in the US simply doesn't make any sense, there are many things you can do here that you can't do in the US, it's apples to oranges. And for your information I've been here since August and it already is November, and I didn't do it by making it rain in stupid strip clubs. And I seriously doubt you have had more fun than me, albeit we may have a different definition of what fun is, how many of these strip club girls have you barebacked? How many stay with you for a week straight like a girlfriend? How many have you traveled with thru Colombia to different pueblos by bus? Yea I think we have different definitions of what fun is and I seriously doubt you have had more fun than I have had in Colombia.I know some guys are Frugal and some guys are just plain cheap.
But this is just an all time low.
Idk if you're actually Colombian or not.
But if you're a visitor I guarantee your $$ nor your presence will not be missed.
I can only imagine the type of women you're barebacking and fucking.
You fly to another country for their women and then treat them like shit over 40 cents?
Bro in the states you would be kicked out of every strip club head first through the door if you have this type of attitude.
And I assure you, you're not having a better time than me in Colombia.
I've been with real models, porn stars, and top tier girls.
I don't monger anymore as I'm in a relationship with a model so yea I'm good.
But when I read just how disrespectful you are to these strippers. You shouldn't even step into la Isla or any other strip joint for that matter.
Did not make it to Angeles spa Thursday. Hooked up with a SW near my hotel in Parque Lleras. This town is great. My question is El Centro. I went to Botero park and enjoyed the scuptures, had a good meal but did not see many hookers. Walked around for a while but must have done something stupid. I can not find the map in Distinguished posts so I am relying on your patience for some help. Where are they. Probably going back to Fase 2 tonight. Some very nice looking talent there.Planning to go in a week to Medellin. Saw some concerning reports about safety issues (gun hold ups seem prevalent). Have you had any concerns regarding walking around or otherwise if one take the usual advised precautions?
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11-06-22, 09:57
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DonMedellin
11-06-22, 13:45
Thanks to JustTK for the info.
Is Central by the Botero busy on Sunday during the day?
Ground Zero is pretty died on Sundays and holidays. Best time to go would be a weekday afternoon.
I know some guys are Frugal and some guys are just plain cheap.
But this is just an all time low.
Idk if you're actually Colombian or not.
But if you're a visitor I guarantee your $$ nor your presence will not be missed.
I can only imagine the type of women you're barebacking and fucking.
You fly to another country for their women and then treat them like shit over 40 cents?
Bro in the states you would be kicked out of every strip club head first through the door if you have this type of attitude.
And I assure you, you're not having a better time than me in Colombia.
I've been with real models, porn stars, and top tier girls.
I don't monger anymore as I'm in a relationship with a model so yea I'm good.
But when I read just how disrespectful you are to these strippers. You shouldn't even step into la Isla or any other strip joint for that matter.I don't know what the hell you are even talking about I am not disrespectful to any strippers. I don't even go to the strip clubs to begin with so how could I be disrespectful to them? Matter of fact I have not even stepped foot inside a strip club in Colombia. The last strip club I have been to was Hong Kong in Tijuana and that was years ago. I am a centro street rat and go with swers. I'm not a club guy, sorry not my stilo.
Was trying for like 3 days to set something up with a girl from photoprepagos. She completely blew me off last night after saying she would be ready at 10 pm and I said message me when you're ready to confirm. Then she has the nerve to act like I'm the one making it diffcult to schedule something so I finally say "olviado, no me interesa".
***** and said forget it. Fuck these bitches, they have such inflated egos. I'm so over this shit.I'm sorry to learn you are having so many challenges. Most of the working women are young and about as organized as a 20 year old girl in the US. If I was you I'd look at Traveler69's map for Medellin and just hit up some casas to get your sea legs under you. Historically, New Life, Fantasias Spa Energy, and Club Amigas Sexy have been preferred ones. Easy point and click. Just don't go too late in the day.
It's funny you say this because actually about a week ago I had went to the veracruz church area with exactly 30 mil in my wallet (I also had 10 mil hidden to have food and bus money) and anyways I went up to several chicas asking cuanto cobras? I found a halfway decent looking one that said 30 mil to which I replied "pero solo tengo exactamente 30 mil" and I even pulled out my wallet and showed her the 20 mil and 10 mil bills that I had. And then I was like "vamos o no?" and she replied "esta bien vamos" she took me to brisas de jardin around the corner there across from the panaderia. It ended up being 10 k for the pieza and 20 k for her and she even gave me BBBJ without me even asking for it. Then we had condom sex. The session was still pretty decent and I was able to finish.
So actually it can be 30 k even including the room. However I do agree this is not the norm and I was quite surprised myself.
So technically not false information.Its true, in Colombia poor people can still get laid.
With all due respect I must say you Sir are a Centro rat.
It's funny you say this because actually about a week ago I had went to the veracruz church area with exactly 30 mil in my wallet (I also had 10 mil hidden to have food and bus money) and anyways I went up to several chicas asking cuanto cobras? I found a halfway decent looking one that said 30 mil to which I replied "pero solo tengo exactamente 30 mil" and I even pulled out my wallet and showed her the 20 mil and 10 mil bills that I had. And then I was like "vamos o no?" and she replied "esta bien vamos" she took me to brisas de jardin around the corner there across from the panaderia. It ended up being 10 k for the pieza and 20 k for her and she even gave me BBBJ without me even asking for it. Then we had condom sex. The session was still pretty decent and I was able to finish.
So actually it can be 30 k even including the room. However I do agree this is not the norm and I was quite surprised myself.
So technically not false information.
Its true, in Colombia poor people can still get laid.So now I'm poor because I'm trying to maximize the value I get for the money I spend.
You know what * ISG I'm done trying to help you idiots out.
I guys can RTFF and figure shit out on your own.
Yea in other words your giving away the money for free. I can see their faces and bodies and smell them while talking to them outside the st hotels. If I'm not getting my dick yet then it's not a bargain it's a waste of money. Your not going to win that argument jb2, I respect you but your wrong on this one.
As for traveling by bus I took a vennie (who only had her Venezuelan cedula so she couldn't fly) from medellin to Santa Marta and back by bus. We went thru Caucasia, Monteria, Sincelejo, and Barranquilla in the way there. The bus ride was almost as much fun as Santa Marta was, seeing the landscape with all the mountains covered in banana trees and palms was really cool. Stopping off in little towns like Santa Rosa de LOS Osos to eat and meet and talk to locals was an experience I enjoyed. I've also taken another vennie from Bogota to melgar to enjoy the piscinas and toboganes there. And I have taken solo bus rides between cucuta and bucaramanga and also between Tolima and Cali. I love the sceneries, the mountains, rivers, cliff drop offs, you don't really see all that in a plane. I agree it can be time consuming especially on the 2 lane highways and especially when they're doing construction but it's still fun and especially if you have a chica with you to share the experience. And no I didn't ask the driver to call me his *****, why the disrespect bro?I'm a pretty extravagant guy. I'll toss a girl 2 k just as easily as I'll toss 50 cents to a busker on the street. I treat 2 k as if it's just a miniscule amount of money that is not worth freaking out over.
Here's a breakdown:
1 cheap Colombian meal = 5 strip club tips = 10 minutes of naked girls rubbing your junk.
1 cheap El Centro fuck = 15-30 minutes of sex = 15-20 strip club tips = 30-40 minutes of various naked girls rubbing your junk + 1-3 hours of drinking beer and watching naked women dance (beer not included).
1 cheap RT ticket to Medellin (baggage extra) = 5,000+ strip club tips, etc.
I'm not wrong. You have the opinion that spending 2 k in a strip club is a waste of money. That part is fine. You also expressed the opinion that guys who spend money in strip clubs are stupid and wasteful and trying to impress, blah, blah, blah. You're wrong. You're wrong to the point where you deserve disrespect.
Every one of us is responsible for finding our own happiness. If someone is happy doing something and what they are doing is not hurting anyone, then what they are doing is right for them. Whether they're happy in a strip club or hanging out with the Hare Krishnas by the Veracruz Church, let them be happy.
Nothing wrong with seeing the scenery. That's why I rent cars, or drive my girlfriend's sister's car. I'm not at the mercy of a crazy bus driver, I've got better views of the scenery and the girl in the passenger seat probably has her pants around her ankles and my hand between her legs. Driving has all the advantages of taking a bus, but puts you in control. You can stop anywhere or anytime. Instead of spending a few minutes seeing a town you can spend a few hours.
Sure it comes with a price, but when it comes to my pleasure, I'm happy to spend the money. That applies to all things. If my money is being spent to keep me smiling, then it's never wasted.
Was trying for like 3 days to set something up with a girl from photoprepagos. She completely blew me off last night after saying she would be ready at 10 pm and I said message me when you're ready to confirm. Then she has the nerve to act like I'm the one making it difficult to schedule something so I finally say "olviado, no me interesa".
Met up with a chick from seeking who wanted 500 mil. She looked really hot in her photos, but she was not worth close to 500. I paid for her dinner and taxi both ways. I feel like a chump but not as much as I would have felt if I paid another 500 mil to hook up with her. Went back to my hotel and messaged another girl on seeking. I send her the name of my hotel and a screenshot of the location and she says she will be here at 1 am (it's like 11:45) I say ok and she texts me at 1:15 asking for my address. I ask if she's close and she says "no se donde estas". WTF? A) you're telling me you haven't even called the taxi and you were supposed to be here 15 mintues ago and B) you could easily hide that info from me if you didn't think you were too good to google my hotel. I called her a ***** and said forget it. Fuck these bitches, they have such inflated egos. I'm so over this shit.Frankly, I'm not surprised everything is turning up shit for you. All I can say is that attitude is everything. You started off complaining and haven't stopped. When things don't go exactly how you expect (and often your expectations are unreasonable) you throw a tantrum.
All the information on how to have the time of your life in Medellin is readily available. It's all been repeated dozens of times. There are many options and most are simple to use.
BigButtDetecto
11-06-22, 19:48
Ground Zero is pretty died on Sundays and holidays. Best time to go would be a weekday afternoon.Sundays are dead everywhere except in Tijuana.
ContinentalF
11-06-22, 20:38
Was trying for like 3 days to set something up with a girl from photoprepagos. She completely blew me off last night after saying she would be ready at 10 pm and I said message me when you're ready to confirm. Then she has the nerve to act like I'm the one making it diffcult to schedule something so I finally say "olviado, no me interesa".
Met up with a chick from seeking who wanted 500 mil. She looked really hot in her photos, but she was not worth close to 500. I paid for her dinner and taxi both ways. I feel like a chump but not as much as I would have felt if I paid another 500 mil to hook up with her. Went back to my hotel and messaged another girl on seeking. I send her the name of my hotel and a screenshot of the location and she says she will be here at 1 am (it's like 11:45) I say ok and she texts me at 1:15 asking for my address. I ask if she's close and she says "no se donde estas". WTF? A) you're telling me you haven't even called the taxi and you were supposed to be here 15 mintues ago and B) you could easily hide that info from me if you didn't think you were too good to google my hotel. I called her a ***** and said forget it. Fuck these bitches, they have such inflated egos. I'm so over this shit.Medellin is not the place you want to have your type of energy or attitude in. Clearly this city is not your vibe and it is not going to become your vibe. I would change your plans and head somewhere else before you find the wrong kind of trouble that will check your attitude very fast.
Thanks to JustTK for the info.
Is Central by the Botero busy on Sunday during the day?
Thanks.Sunday is usually slower. I think it's pretty good today near the glass walkway.
So now I'm poor because I'm trying to maximize the value I get for the money I spend.
You know what * ISG I'm done trying to help you idiots out.
I guys can RTFF and figure shit out on your own.You have a posting style similar to another member. And like him, your information is solid. I have learned things from reading your posts.
SpiderRider
11-06-22, 21:33
I arrived late last night so I decided to go to fase II. 20 mil cover, I pay it and go in and it's pretty dead. Not a good sign. I've already paid cover so I order a drink. 22 mil for a mini budweiser, not even a full bottle. Whatever, there are some hot girls around, not on stage though. The ones on stage was like a 6. 5. She finished dancing and comes and asks me for a tip for her dancing. I say no, that's what I paid cover for. At this point I'm pissed. It's not about the money, it's the principle. Like maybe you think I'm cheap for not wanting to give her 2 or 5 mil (assuming you have those bills, once you dig into your pocket it's game over) but I think the club the club is cheap if they pay their dancers so little that they have to panhandle. Anyway I was hoping it was a once off situation. The second dancer I didn't even watch, I was looking at my phone. When the second dancer came up to panhandle I said fuck this I'm out and finished my drink and bounced. Then I realized the airbnb I rented had fucking holes in the doors for ventilation and vents in the windows that you can't close. You heard every noise in every room. Slept maybe 4 hours tops due to the noise. Texted my host in the morning that it's not going to work out. He hooked me up with a deal for a nicer hotel, had to pay like 350 mil more for the 2 weeks. I have to wait til 3 to check in and I get here and it also has the uncloseable vent in the window. WTF? How is this a thing? How to Colombians sleep? FML. Not feeling Medellin so far. Kinda wish I stayed in Bogota. Hopefully it gets better.
Oh another thing, when the host made the change for me, I told him I needed a place where I could bring a guest back. He tells his wife this and she picks me up to take me to the hotel, and she's explaining this to the lady at the desk and they're telling me it's fine as long as it's only one person. Man I almost cringed to death. Now this hotel makes them sign in with ID and shit. Bruh.Nothing you described here is out of the ordinary.
Planning to go in a week to Medellin. Saw some concerning reports about safety issues (gun hold ups seem prevalent). Have you had any concerns regarding walking around or otherwise if one take the usual advised precautions?I wouldn't say gun holdups are prevalent, at least not if you stay in decent neighborhoods and aren't flaunting your wealth (and we're all wealthy compared to the average Colombian). I also wouldn't say getting your drink spiked with Scopaline is common. But if you're not paying attention, that also can happen.
Normal common sense precautions apply in Medellin as in traveling most places in Latin America.
I've cumulatively spent at least a year of my life in Medellin and I've only had one unsuccessful attempt at mugging me.
AmorPorFavor
11-07-22, 01:31
I wouldn't say gun holdups are prevalent, at least not if you stay in decent neighborhoods and aren't flaunting your wealth (and we're all wealthy compared to the average Colombian). I also wouldn't say getting your drink spiked with Scopaline is common. But if you're not paying attention, that also can happen.
Normal common sense precautions apply in Medellin as in traveling most places in Latin America.
I've cumulatively spent at least a year of my life in Medellin and I've only had one unsuccessful attempt at mugging me.Is it safe to walk around Poblado and parque lleras late at night on a Wednesday, like after 2 am? I will be getting in late and might want to head out that first night. I will be on west coast time. Staying in Energy Living.
Is it safe to walk around Poblado and parque lleras late at night on a Wednesday, like after 2 am? I will be getting in late and might want to head out that first night. I will be on west coast time. Staying in Energy Living.Like any major city you have to exercise a modicum of common sense. Strolling around a public area at 2:00 am When you've just gotten off a flight and haven't gotten your bearings likely is not a good idea. But there's police at areas around the park and there will be people entering and leaving the clubs in the area.
Frankly, I'm not surprised everything is turning up shit for you. All I can say is that attitude is everything. You started off complaining and haven't stopped. When things don't go exactly how you expect (and often your expectations are unreasonable) you throw a tantrum.The only thing I did was walk out of a few clubs and call a girl a ***** over text, which I later apologized for and she still wants to meet up. Then made a couple posts venting about my experiences. Nothing about that is throwing a tantrum. That's you being dismissive.
As for your theory about how tipping panhandling strippers keeps the club full, I think that's just you making a logical leap just to make me feel ridiculous when I'm not being ridiculous. If a girl is hot, she will make good money just from guys wanting attention whether it be tips, drinks, private dances, or fucking in the back. If not, she will have to put on some extra charm to get by, which has not been the case in my experience. That's how it works in clubs in the USA, (since you made the comparison) and that's how it should work everywhere. You keep repeating how cheap 2 mil is as if you're not listening to my counter argument, or as if you're ignoring it completely for the convenience of your argument. The amount is irrelevant. If I want to tip a girl for her attention, I will give her 10 or 20. So no, I don't want to have to tip the bartender to help me fill my pockets with 2's so that girls I'm not interested in will leave me alone and not gossip about me in the dressing room (another thing you brought up). The system sucks, if you disagree, fine, but try to be respectful or at least not disingenuous in how paint your opponent's argument. I'm not the first one on here to say it's a dumb system, I'm not even the only one on here that's currently saying so, and I won't be the last. And judging by how argumentative you are, it really does nothing to convince me that I'm being ridiculous, moreso that you're just a bit abrasive let's say (so that this post gets approved).
Medellin is not the place you want to have your type of energy or attitude in. Clearly this city is not your vibe and it is not going to become your vibe. I would change your plans and head somewhere else before you find the wrong kind of trouble that will check your attitude very fast.You're not wrong. I'd actually go one step farther and say that I've outgrown this hobby altogether. I started banging hookers partly because I was put off by the entitlement of regular women. What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers? Something's got to give.
I remember reading somewhere that there might be locations that girls don't go to. I presume it was not a safe location and late night get togethers.
I'm looking at the Mandala Hotel Botero (maybe Hotel Calle Real) and I believe that is El Centro. I was about to book but realized that to get to the road its a walk, cars can't stop at the front door. Is this an ideal location for outcalls? I also plan on going to the bars but is it a safe enough location at night to travel between the building and the road.
Is the Nutibara a better location as it is on a road. Is there any other recommendations for hotels near El Centro that is in good proximity of bars and clubs, and the SW.
Feel free to PM if you prefer.
I don't even go to the strip clubsSo why on earth are you criticizing others' practices, such as tipping, when you don't go to them? Quite puzzled by that.
What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers?Have you considered jerking off?
BarrioSpinners
11-07-22, 05:18
I remember reading somewhere that there might be locations that girls don't go to. I presume it was not a safe location and late night get togethers.
I'm looking at the Mandala Hotel Botero (maybe Hotel Calle Real) and I believe that is El Centro. I was about to book but realized that to get to the road its a walk, cars can't stop at the front door. Is this an ideal location for outcalls? I also plan on going to the bars but is it a safe enough location at night to travel between the building and the road.
Is the Nutibara a better location as it is on a road. Is there any other recommendations for hotels near El Centro that is in good proximity of bars and clubs, and the SW.
Feel free to PM if you prefer.I was also looking at Hotel Calle Real than I read uber / taxi can't stop in front of the place and I didn't like it for this reason so I'm thinking of Ayenda 1248 Conquistadores, very close to Veracruz street action. My plan is to visits the casas in the afternoon and hunt for street candies in the morning but I don't want to bring them over to my place just love motels. It should be alright to walk from carrera 54 up a little north where la Conejitas and barra ejecutiva are as long as it's not dark and shops are open. Also To check is Ayenda 1235 Botero. I haven't contact them yet, but I would like to know if they accept cash / debit card as per booking. Com they take reservations without online payment. Hotel Calle Real might be girl friendly according to a video on youtube where this guy review the area in regards of mongering.
I remember reading somewhere that there might be locations that girls don't go to. I presume it was not a safe location and late night get togethers.
I'm looking at the Mandala Hotel Botero (maybe Hotel Calle Real) and I believe that is El Centro. I was about to book but realized that to get to the road its a walk, cars can't stop at the front door. Is this an ideal location for outcalls? I also plan on going to the bars but is it a safe enough location at night to travel between the building and the road.
Is the Nutibara a better location as it is on a road. Is there any other recommendations for hotels near El Centro that is in good proximity of bars and clubs, and the SW.
Feel free to PM if you prefer.Nutibara is better for coming and leaving even late at night. Not so with the other two. Mandala will be better than Calle Real location wise.
Mr Enternational
11-07-22, 06:38
You're not wrong. I'd actually go one step farther and say that I've outgrown this hobby altogether. I started banging hookers partly because I was put off by the entitlement of regular women. What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers? Something's got to give.Where were these regular women that you were put off by? When I am put off by regular chicks in one place I switch up places. When I am put off by hookers in one place then I switch up places.
For me it runs cyclical. There is more than one place to find regular chicks and hookers. I have always said that guys that travel to Place G for chicks just are not tired of the shit of chicks in Place G as they are the chicks in Place F. It seems you have a low tolerance and got tired of the shit from chicks in Place G much quicker than other guys.
Most guys are holding up a measuring stick from home and saying it is better than home. You are holding up your own measuring stick and saying there are just some things that I can not put up with period. I get it. How many guys would put up with a chick at home being 2 hours late? Yet in Colombia they accept it as the nature of the beast and put up with the shit. Until eventually they get tired of it and say fuck this shit.
Is anyone familiar with this location? Probably an apartment or casa. It might be too generic to tell but worth a shot with all the collective knowledge here.
What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers? Something's got to give.Haha, that made me chortle. As someone else said, and I think I have kind of done myself, time for a reset. I too got in to paid sex to escape the BS that goes with regular dates. BUt really, its more to do with entitlement in general. Which does cross the divide between regular and paid.
I managed to overcome this obstacle by targetting more down to eartth girls. How? By trying to choose girls tht are humble, still have a sense of perspective, that don't have their heads up therei arses. I. e. Going low. Low-end, not high-end. Girls that repsect and value smaller things, like 20's instead of 100's. Haha, but its more than just cash. Its attitude.
So why on earth are you criticizing others' practices, such as tipping, when you don't go to them? Quite puzzled by that.This is probably some kind of logical fallacy. Appeal to authority maybe? You don't like stripclubs therefore you don't frequent them therefore you're not allowed an opinion on them, when the whole reason he doesn't frequent them is because of his opinion on them, and nobody can stop him from having that opinion. I liked your quip about jerking off tho. That's kinda what I was getting at.
You're not wrong. I'd actually go one step farther and say that I've outgrown this hobby altogether. I started banging hookers partly because I was put off by the entitlement of regular women. What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers? Something's got to give.There are plenty of both "regular" women (yes even in the US) and hookers (abroad) that don't have an entitlement mindset.
I managed to overcome this obstacle by targetting more down to eartth girls. How? By trying to choose girls tht are humble, still have a sense of perspective, that don't have their heads up therei arses. I. e. Going low. Low-end, not high-end. Girls that repsect and value smaller things, like 20's instead of 100's. Haha, but its more than just cash. Its attitude.There's quite a divide on this board between low end and high end girls (which I equate as "beauty queens") and for some guys it's all about how pretty / cute the girls are as this is their primary selection criteria.
So now I'm poor because I'm trying to maximize the value I get for the money I spend.
You know what * ISG I'm done trying to help you idiots out....If I may speak for the forum, the feeling is mutual. I still can't figure out if you're really this cheap, or just trolling all of us. I really believe it's the latter and for pulling one over on us I give a tip (of the hat) to you! . Actually you wouldn't do that, please disregard jajaja!
The only thing I did was walk out of a few clubs and call a girl a ***** over text, which I later apologized for and she still wants to meet up. Then made a couple posts venting about my experiences. Nothing about that is throwing a tantrum. That's you being dismissive.No. The first girl:
finished dancing and comes and asks me for a tip for her dancing. I say no, that's what I paid cover for. At this point I'm pissed. It's not about the money, it's the principle. Like maybe you think I'm cheap for not wanting to give her 2 or 5 mil (assuming you have those bills, once you dig into your pocket it's game over) but I think the club the club is cheap if they pay their dancers so little that they have to panhandle.That's the beginning of a tantrum. Had you bothered to do any research you would have known that once girls come off stage they make the rounds and ask for tips, that a 2 k tip is standard and it's okay to politely decline. Then you rant that the strip club should pay the dancers more.
How does someone make it past the age of 12 without understanding that strippers get paid by tips from customers? "Tuck a buck", "make it rain?" If you've ever been in a strip club in your life you had to have seen guys tipping girls and girls making the rounds after the stage to get more tips. Then the first time it happens in Medellin you gripe about a non-existent strip club business model.
When a second dancer does the same, perfectly natural and normal strip club thing, you leave. The only way you could have been more clueless about how strip clubs work would be if you called the police to report naked women in the strip club.
As for your theory about how tipping panhandling strippers keeps the club full, I think that's just you making a logical leap just to make me feel ridiculous when I'm not being ridiculous. If a girl is hot, she will make good money just from guys wanting attention whether it be tips, drinks, private dances, or fucking in the back. If not, she will have to put on some extra charm to get by, which has not been the case in my experience. That's how it works in clubs in the USA, (since you made the comparison) and that's how it should work everywhere. You keep repeating how cheap 2 mil is as if you're not listening to my counter argument, or as if you're ignoring it completely for the convenience of your argument. The amount is irrelevant. If I want to tip a girl for her attention, I will give her 10 or 20. So no, I don't want to have to tip the bartender to help me fill my pockets with 2's so that girls I'm not interested in will leave me alone and not gossip about me in the dressing room (another thing you brought up). The system sucks, if you disagree, fine, but try to be respectful or at least not disingenuous in how paint your opponent's argument. I'm not the first one on here to say it's a dumb system, I'm not even the only one on here that's currently saying so, and I won't be the last. And judging by how argumentative you are, it really does nothing to convince me that I'm being ridiculous, moreso that you're just a bit abrasive let's say (so that this post gets approved).They weren't panhandling. A panhandler does absolutely nothing and asks for money. Time for a Mr. Obvious lesson.
Strip clubs have girls called strippers. Strippers dance and remove their clothes to entertain the customers. The customers have the option of showing their appreciation by giving money to the stripper. That's called a tip. Tips are voluntary. If you decide to tip, the stripper will usually provide some type of physical display to thank you for the tip.
Get it now? They dance. They take off their clothes. They ask for tips. They provide entertainment. In exchange, they ask for a tip. Strippers in the US do it. Street performers around the world do it. It's completely, fucking normal and not something to get all pissy about.
You don't seem to know shit about strip clubs, in the US or anywhere else. Do you know how a good looking dancer makes money in the US? She does it by making the rounds, finding the customers who are there to spend money and then convincing them to open up their pockets. The most beautiful girl in the club, rarely makes more money than the hardest working girl in the club. And the hardest worker makes bank every time. The beauty queen, unless she's also working hard, only makes big bucks when she gets lucky.
I keep saying 2 k because the amount is important. However, you first have to remove your head from your ass and recognize that strippers asking for tips is the way things work. If 10 girls come by each hour and you tip each 2 k, you've spent $4. In an hour. In a strip club. If you're supposed to tip 10-20 k, you're potentially spending $20-$40 per hour.
Are you beginning to grasp it now? Nothing that happened in Fase 2 was worth getting pissed about, or walking out over. The exact same thing happens to every single person who goes to a strip club. However, everybody else realizes there are strippers in strip clubs, that the strippers strip and that after stripping, the strippers ask for tips.
Finally, let's be clear. I'm not abrasive. I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole because I don't join people's pity parties. Instead I tell them the way things are. And nobody wants to hear that when they're wallowing in self-pity.
I was the same way my first time. A bunch of assholes on ISG kept telling me that I was going about things the wrong way. For some stupid reason, they thought all their years of experience were more important than my idea of how things should be. Fortunately for me, I'm a quick learner. 4 hours into my trip which was about to become a complete disaster, I swallowed my pride, admitted that all those assholes had been right and I changed course. The rest of the trip was great. Had I stuck with my stupidity, I would have never mongered again.
Instead, here I am 8 years later, being the asshole and trying to keep people from ruining their trip. However, if you'd rather piss and moan instead of landing more good pussy than you can possibly handle, keep doing your thing.
If I may speak for the forum, the feeling is mutual. I still can't figure out if you're really this cheap, or just trolling all of us. I really believe it's the latter and for pulling one over on us I give a tip (of the hat) to you! . Actually you wouldn't do that, please disregard jajaja!He's a street rat, and for those in this elite group (jajaja), paying more than what the locals pay is hard to swallow. And contrary to what others may think, just because a guy is not willing to pay more than what the locals pay does not mean they are cheap outside of mongering.
Is it always locked? Do you need to call them when you arrive or is it closed Mondays?
If I may speak for the forum, the feeling is mutual. I still can't figure out if you're really this cheap, or just trolling all of us. I really believe it's the latter and for pulling one over on us I give a tip (of the hat) to you! . Actually you wouldn't do that, please disregard jajaja!Let me clarify a few things. First and foremost you don't speak for the forum you speak for yourself only. Secondly all I was saying is that I think strip clubs, cover charges, tips etc are a waste because I like to maximize the number of women I have sex with for the amount of money I spend. I'm a high turnover street rat if you will. If you guys enjoy the strip club scene then it is worth it to you, for me it's not my cup of tea, my apologies for calling you strip club guys idiots. Who knows maybe some day I'll change my mind about it but for now I prefer the street scene.
Secondly, I wasn't trolling or lying about anything. I used to spend alot more before I lived here. I always came down with about $6 k or $7 k usd per trip with trips averaging about 2 months at a time. Since August I've been renting an apartment in a barrio and living more frugal so my money would last me longer. I do occasionally splurge and have paid up to 100 mil for BBFS although I figured out it can be had for around 50 mil with the right girls. As far as prices go I didn't lie about anything, the tienda here in my barrio sells Andina tall cans for 3 mil, meals cost about 10 mil, bus is 2550. If you guys want to call me a lier or say I'm trolling or whatever then that's on you. All I was saying is I don't see the value in the strip clubs and I keep my 2 k bills for other things such as cigarettes for example which cost 3 of those 2 k bills for a pack of Starlite.
I know many locals here and they aren't going to la isla or gustos or whatever have you and spending tons of money. I've been trying to live more like a local. And while I do keep track of the exchange rate I tend to think of it as I can pull 300 mil for $60 instead of $75 like it used to be but once I have that 300 mil I think of it as 300 mil and I spend it the same way as if the exchange rate was 4000 or 3600 I don't go spending it faster because it's worth less in dollars, to me 300 mil is 300 mil.
But anyways, I think ima take a break from posting for a while since people just want to attack me and call me poor or cheap or whatever.
Also don't know if this helps anyone or not but I just went to todo drogas to get some viagra and the price of the 2 pack 50 MG sildenafilo (La Sante brand) has increased from 1800 to 2200 now. So that along with food prices increasing slightly as well, does mean that prices on some things are increasing.
...Also To check is Ayenda 1235 Botero....It is closed.
Also bring water sandals, you may decide to wear it.
There's quite a divide on this board between low end and high end girls (which I equate as "beauty queens") and for some guys it's all about how pretty / cute the girls are as this is their primary selection criteria.As always, Centro rats are collateral damage again, and nobody said a thing.
Last week I met the hottest girl I have met in Medellin but the sex was average physically. I have to massage her legs after about an hour so she can continue. LOL. I will repeat with her because it gave me the satisfaction in my head. This is not the only hot girl I have met this year and they are all about the same performance wise. It's not easy to get everything perfect line up. Congrats to those who can get it.
The next day, I passed by El Centro and spotted a new Vennie that I consider hot too, she said she just started and it was morning so "low mileage" checked. Hehe. She asked for 50 mil and we went. I can't say sex is better one way or the other. And I don't really care about paying different amount to different girls as my objective is to have sex with hot girl wherever I found them.
There is definitely a lot of mindless debates and arguments on this website. I guess it can be amusing to some. I don't know who is right or wrong and I really don't care.
This much I know. I am in Medellin now and I am having a great time with young attractive women from Facebook. The prices are reasonable to me and the girls are providing GFE sessions. That is all that matters to me.
As for your theory about how tipping panhandling strippers keeps the club full, I think that's just you making a logical leap just to make me feel ridiculous when I'm not being ridiculous..The strippers aren't "panhandling" when they come around to collect the 2 mil notes. This is done after their stage performance, thus it's an optional contribution toward their performance.
There's quite a divide on this board between low end and high end girls (which I equate as "beauty queens") and for some guys it's all about how pretty / cute the girls are as this is their primary selection criteria.I use low / high-end only to indicate price (high or low end of the price range). As I have tried to explain numerous times, I don't bellieve price affects 'quality', be it looks or personality or intelligence. But it does seem to impact how down to Earth a girl is.
Other people are free to think different.
I use low / high-end only to indicate price (high or low end of the price range). As I have tried to explain numerous times, I don't bellieve price affects 'quality', be it looks or personality or intelligence. But it does seem to impact how down to Earth a girl is.
Other people are free to think different.Fully agreed. Price does not affect service quality. In my experience, how attractive a woman is has more of an impact here. To me, the sweet spot is a 7, girl next door type. These are attractive but not stunning to the point of having hundreds of guys worldwide telling her how beautiful she is daily. If I can get a 7 that is sweet, gentle, understands the game, I stick around with her longer. My experience with 8's and over have not been great in the bedroom. At best, average, which means no repeat to me. Sure, we all like the stunners, but a poor attitude, sex like she is making you a favour, and I am still paying more for this. Not worth it to me. Met a girl from Medellin in Cartagena this year, a real stunner. I mean, model material. But she knows it, and has US and Mexican guys constantly buying her flights to Cancun and giving her $500 on Western Union just like that. I caught her in between trips and sugar daddies (she obviously live on seeking). The end result, had to chase after her to have sex with me at my airbnb. Slippery biatch was always pretending to be on the phone, or wanted to get wasted at the best bars and restaurants. I got it sorted after I told her she had 5 minutes to go to the bedroom or pack her stuff. The sex. Average of course. Remember, she was making me a favour!
I remember during the covid lockdowns and limited hours magically strip clubs in medellin remained open. (Or open longer hours) correct me if I am wrong. Now, they must be paying off some very important politicians to have these privileges. Now, the la Islas, fase dos's are cash cows for the owners and the "wheels" they have to grease to remain open. I imagine strip clubs in your own hometown have to grease the wheels to certain people to run how they run. They simply pass on the cost to you. Yes, the sex with a spinner in conejitos can be better than a star in La isla. I am not a fan of the girls going around asking for a tip if I already paid a cover and I am used to strippers not doing this in my hometown. However, when in rome. Even if I did not find her show appealing, at times I would say no but times I would give 2 k etc. Again, when in rome. Yes, for medellin the prices are geared towards foreigners generally speaking. But, they are smart enough to know that at a certain price point they will keep on coming. Once it is the same price as your home town, there is less value. Would someone fly to medellin to bang strippers for the same price that he can bang in their home city. Of course not. There are Colombian strippers or escorts in major cities..
For those who want to spend less, just go stand by the bar in La isla or fase dos. Order a Perrier (agua con gas if no Perrier) and sip and enjoy. The Consumo minimo (minimum consumption) exists in many bars and clubs in medellin. Envigado not so I believe. What I believe is there is a group "wheels" as I aforementioned who tell bar owners that whoever sits at a table need to order at minimum a bottle of rum or aguardiente. Even on the bars in the sidewalk on la 70, that are definitely not high end, there is a consumo mínimo. You want beers, no. You need to get a bottle. Yes, you can probably find a deal of ordering a bucket of corona for the price of a bottle, but this is rare. I remember telling the mesero (waiter) I will pay the price of a bottle if I can have 1 beer, he said no. It's ridiculous. Again, when in Rome. Order the rum and after beer if you want. La isla is no different. Go with a few buddies and split the cost of a bottle, get a couch and enjoy. Probably is cheaper than gustos. I did not go to gustos this time when I was there in July. But after reading guys getting quotes and comparing gustos to la isla, you might be better off as there is security in La isla, you don't have to worry about being robbed, you have. A manager to complain to if service absolutely sucked. Try that with a crazy chica yelling in your apartment. You would suck it up and pay her to leave just to avoid the commotion or her "boyfriend" coming and shooting you. Lastly, almost zero chance of getting roofies or scopolamine in La isla. I can apply this to the other strip clubs even in Centro. They want repeat customers and at least you have some sense of security. This is what you pay the extra for. For piece of mind. I stay in "nicer" buildings with 24 HR security for piece of mind. Yes, I pay more than I would had I chosen a building with no security.
Nobody wants to be taken advantage of by paying extra for being a tourist etc. With experience, you can minimalize this.
Now, for the girls in strip clubs. They are working there for a reason. Many reasons if you want to split hairs. Don't care really. In the end they want your money. This is the only reason you need to know why they are there. Yes, I am like many who want the best "bang " for my buck in all senses. It's my money. You can find diamonds in the rough in conejitos and duds in La isla. Test drive a few, perhaps you may have genuine sexual chemistry and love it while another customer had a miserable time with her. Life is short. Will spending $100-$200 extra on a Saturday night while on a holiday really put a dent on your lifestyle for the whole year? You know the answer. Enjoy life, it's short.
I disagree. If a chick could make 4 million on a regular job then she probably would not be hoeing. I know one person's junk is another person's treasure, but if she is not worth 4 million on a regular job market where she would undergo more screening than I could possibly give, then she damn sure is not worth 4 million pesos to me.I disagree as well. Most people make minimum wage. I find it incredibly hard to see how the average could be 4 million. Its probably skewed heavily due to some very high earners. Regardless, most of the people I've met in Colombia are jobless or make shit minimum wage. Even if you have an education you're looking at 1. 3 to 1. 5 million out of university to start. Maybe after 10 years or so you might be making 2 million.
Girls in Santa Fe make a lot more than 4 million a month. An attractive girl can make can make 500 k a day pretty easy. Thats probably about 10 - 12 guys a day. 5 days a week. 10 million per month. That's not counting the special customers that tip them or hire them todo la noche.
DonCarlos1234
11-08-22, 02:23
Today I had 2 girls stop over after working as spokesmodels at the SEMA show here in town. They wanted to see my place and my artwork. Not going to get into that info here. But what was nice is one got a call from her mom in Manizales. I said Hello, Hello, to her mom on the Facetime chat and then we all started talking about Colombia. Turns out they (r Colombians) and they visit their hometown often and want to hook up when we are all there together. Want to introduce me to their artist friends. Did I mention they are models? LOL no guarantees (for a threesome? LOL) but I I can tell you they were in no rush to leave for there trip back to LA after our conversation. And I got a lot of hugs. Terrific people, great vibes! There's no harm in being genuinely interested in nice people. They were surprised I knew about the area and even like that I knew about things to do there. Like hot air balloons and tours in Valle del Cauca. We will meet up in Colombia. It has been a good day. Now less than 3 weeks from landing in Medellin. (my 2nd home).
MaddTraveler
11-08-22, 03:06
There is definitely a lot of mindless debates and arguments on this website. I guess it can be amusing to some. I don't know who is right or wrong and I really don't care.
This much I know. I am in Medellin now and I am having a great time with young attractive women from Facebook. The prices are reasonable to me and the girls are providing GFE sessions. That is all that matters to me.Dude I'm so done here that I may not posted another MDE report, this is now the rant and bitchin forum. Now, while the pandemic was in full force, I could understand why we'd come here and talk garbage with most unable to travel, or fear of being stuck if infectd. But now we can go pretty much anywhere, buy pussy for as low as $5, still all we now mostly read is childish complaints about dumb shit like oh a stripper wanted a tip and that ruined my life, like ok numnut that's her job! Tip her that $0. 40 cents you cheap fuck.
I say we have perhaps a new wave of losers joining, or high or crack, but mostly thinking it's a small peepee syndrom causing this.
Let me clarify a few things. First and foremost you don't speak for the forum you speak for yourself only. Secondly all I was saying is that I think strip clubs, cover charges, tips etc are a waste because I like to maximize the number of women I have sex with for the amount of money I spend. I'm a high turnover street rat if you will. If you guys enjoy the strip club scene then it is worth it to you, for me it's not my cup of tea, my apologies for calling you strip club guys idiots. Who knows maybe some day I'll change my mind about it but for now I prefer the street scene.
Secondly, I wasn't trolling or lying about anything. I used to spend alot more before I lived here. I always came down with about $6 k or $7 k usd per trip with trips averaging about 2 months at a time. Since August I've been renting an apartment in a barrio and living more frugal so my money would last me longer. I do occasionally splurge and have paid up to 100 mil for BBFS although I figured out it can be had for around 50 mil with the right girls. As far as prices go I didn't lie about anything, the tienda here in my barrio sells Andina tall cans for 3 mil, meals cost about 10 mil, bus is 2550. If you guys want to call me a lier or say I'm trolling or whatever then that's on you. All I was saying is I don't see the value in the strip clubs and I keep my 2 k bills for other things such as cigarettes for example which cost 3 of those 2 k bills for a pack of Starlite.
I know many locals here and they aren't going to la isla or gustos or whatever have you and spending tons of money. I've been trying to live more like a local. And while I do keep track of the exchange rate I tend to think of it as I can pull 300 mil for $60 instead of $75 like it used to be but once I have that 300 mil I think of it as 300 mil and I spend it the same way as if the exchange rate was 4000 or 3600 I don't go spending it faster because it's worth less in dollars, to me 300 mil is 300 mil.
But anyways, I think ima take a break from posting for a while since people just want to attack me and call me poor or cheap or whatever.There is nothing wrong with doing things your way. In fact, that's exactly how you should do things. If more people understood that it would simplify things.
I've eaten a lot of 8 k-10 k meals, drank my share of 2 k-3 k beers and ridden many a bus, starting when they were 1900. I'll vouch that those prices are right.
There are many different sides to mongering and exploring Medellin. You can spend a little, or spend a lot. In the end, if you're feeling good about it, it was worth what you soent.
An uncontrolled outburst of anger and frustration, typically in a young child.
"he has temper tantrums if he can't get his own way".
Being pissed off does does not equate to a tantrum. I'm sorry but I didn't read the rest of what you wrote because if you're going to try to frame being pissed off internally but leaving a club with composure as a tantrum, then I really don't care about the rest of what you have to say.
Met up with a seeking girl. Not going to go into detail but have I mentioned how much I fucking love this city? Honestly it was the best sex I've ever had and I feel like Austin Powers after he got is mojo back. Sending good vibes, even to you JBee something or another.
I rememeber I used to be able to fill up a compact car with gasoline in America for US $4. 00. Prices increase over time, that is a given. Those of us with access to euros or dollars have a powerful hedge against price inflation in Colombia. Using your viagra example, the 25%+ devaluation of the peso vs dollars and euros means the real cost of that item is slightly lower now for anyone who is exchanging US or Europe currency to buy it.
Also don't know if this helps anyone or not but I just went to todo drogas to get some viagra and the price of the 2 pack 50 MG sildenafilo (La Sante brand) has increased from 1800 to 2200 now. So that along with food prices increasing slightly as well, does mean that prices on some things are increasing.
So now I'm poor because I'm trying to maximize the value I get for the money I spend.
You know what * ISG I'm done trying to help you idiots out.
I guys can RTFF and figure shit out on your own.What I said was " in Colombia poor people can still get laid". I never said that you were poor.
Went to every spa yesterday after I couldn't figure out the entrance to Loutron. About 8 girls ranging 4. 5-8. 5. Took the legit 8. 5, 23 years old. 140 k for an hour, BBBJ, CIM, DFK, pretty outstanding overall. Unlimited pops. Got 2 in. FYI on google maps it shows the black building with the gate, but it's the white door directly to the right.
What I said was " in Colombia poor people can still get laid". I never said that you were poor.I can understand poor. Poor people have limited funds, and just trying to make ends meet. They don't spend money on certain things simply because they can't afford them. What I don't understand, is being a cheap fuck. It is like going to Starbucks with your own tea bag, asking for a free cup of hot water. Or not tipping waiters when dining out, etc. One may have millions in his bank account, but acts like a fucking Scrooge. These mfs should be staying home and jerking off to save a few bucks, IMO there is no place for them in the hobby.
I can understand poor. Poor people have limited funds, and just trying to make ends meet. They don't spend money on certain things simply because they can't afford them. What I don't understand, is being a cheap fuck. It is like going to Starbucks with your own tea bag, asking for a free cup of hot water. Or not tipping waiters when dining out, etc. One may have millions in his bank account, but acts like a fucking Scrooge. These mfs should be staying home and jerking off to save a few bucks, IMO there is no place for them in the hobby.There is freedom that you get when you do things in certain way. One probably does not need to work or not work as much to support the spending habit for one. When one can enjoy in the worst situations like El Centro, this person most likely can enjoy in other situations if he chooses to. He has more choices so I think he actually is not poor in the sense that he can enjoy far more things otherwise.
The white door directly to the right (as you are facing the buildings) is not Energy spa. It is a different casa. The price you paid is less than what Energy charges and the services you described are more than what Energy provides. I'm not sure what the name of the casa you visited is. I'm not sure it even has a name. They keep a lower profile than Energy. Several of the girls who work there advertise on mileroticos and photoprepagos.
Went to every spa yesterday after I couldn't figure out the entrance to Loutron. About 8 girls ranging 4. 5-8. 5. Took the legit 8. 5, 23 years old. 140 k for an hour, BBBJ, CIM, DFK, pretty outstanding overall. Unlimited pops. Got 2 in. FYI on google maps it shows the black building with the gate, but it's the white door directly to the right.
Went to every spa yesterday after I couldn't figure out the entrance to Loutron. About 8 girls ranging 4. 5-8. 5. Took the legit 8. 5, 23 years old. 140 k for an hour, BBBJ, CIM, DFK, pretty outstanding overall. Unlimited pops. Got 2 in. FYI on google maps it shows the black building with the gate, but it's the white door directly to the right.No upcharge for the BBBJ and DFK? Do you remember the name or her number? Thank you.
Mr Enternational
11-08-22, 20:56
There are many different sides to mongering and exploring Medellin. You can spend a little, or spend a lot. In the end, if you're feeling good about it, it was worth what you soent.But also the people that live in Orlando don't tell the tourists that they are stupid for staying in a nice hotel and going to Disney World when they are there on vacation.
There is a holiday way and there is an everyday joe way. Going places so much I tend to monger the everyday joe way. If I was only going somewhere once a year then more than likely I would do things the holiday way as most people that post seem to do.
Mr Enternational
11-08-22, 21:13
There is freedom that you get when you do things in certain way. One probably does not need to work or not work as much to support the spending habit for one. When one can enjoy in the worst situations like El Centro, this person most likely can enjoy in other situations if he chooses to. He has more choices so I think he actually is not poor in the sense that he can enjoy far more things otherwise.Exactly. When I go to Bogota I get the $20 airbnb and enjoy the $8 Santa Fe chicks. For me and my girlfriend's trip to Tahiti I already paid for the $900 water bungalow because I chose to. I don't mind being a cheap fuck in Colombia so that I can enjoy more and better things with my significant other at times. Don't think I would be able to get out much if everywhere I went I had to get the $900 water bungalow so I would not appear to be a cheap fuck. As you said there is a freedom.
Hello,
I'm planning my first trip to Medellin around the new years. What neighborhood would you guys recommend me staying in for a Airbnb. Trying to find that sweet spot of a decent neighborhood, but also not too far from the action. Thank You!
... What I believe is there is a group "wheels" as I aforementioned ...One time someone I know asked if I wanted to eat empanada. I said Ok. He took me to a empanada stand and said eat as many as you want, then went back. It was really good so I ate quite a few. I insisted on paying when I finished. The female owner looked up to another man standing not far away. That man signal NO and tell me to leave without paying. I have seen more in El Centro so I think something like that does exist.
But I think it is more than that for the changes in the clubs, Gusto didn't charge a cover during weekday when I first went and it was 10 mil cover during weekend. It is 20 mil every night now. That is what I remember. La Isla's cover was only 10 mil and I always can get a table without getting a bottle, now it is 50 mil and I think drink price about doubled. La Isla also remodeled and changed their business model to be more like Gusto. I also saw a complete different crowd in the club than before. That is why I said it is more than that.
ColombiaLover
11-09-22, 04:23
I can understand poor. Poor people have limited funds, and just trying to make ends meet. They don't spend money on certain things simply because they can't afford them. What I don't understand, is being a cheap fuck. It is like going to Starbucks with your own tea bag, asking for a free cup of hot water. Or not tipping waiters when dining out, etc. One may have millions in his bank account, but acts like a fucking Scrooge. These mfs should be staying home and jerking off to save a few bucks, IMO there is no place for them in the hobby.What I will never understand (and I'm not saying that's what the post is implying, although it gave me this thought) is why some gringos are willing to pay high prices in MDE because, well, it's only $XXX in dollars. Huh? If you feel that way, paying a restaurant in MDE what you'd pay in the USA Same for the taxi driver. Same for the hotel or AirBnB. If your gauge on what to pay is the amount in USA Dollars, then don't be hypocritical and apply it only to prepagos.
Whenever I hear someone say "it's only X in USD," I cringe. Who cares? You are in Colombia. The currency is the peso, not the dollar, Prices are in pesos. Most things other than imports are cheap. The Colombian minimum is 1 million pesos a month. I know ladies who clean apartments for 50 mil a DAY. I know a chica that worked in a story in centro for 25 mil a DAY and had to provide her own transportation.
It's not about being cheap, it's about paying something reasonable based on the local economy. These chicas who base their price on the value of the dollar are almost as nuts as the guys who pay that price, rationalizing by saying just how cheap that is in USDs. I get the cheap fuck / Scrooge point, but I think these are the minority of the cases. As I often say, some fellow gringos are our own worst enemies because they drive up the price for no real reason. But whatever. Just my thoughts.
What I will never understand (and I'm not saying that's what the post is implying, although it gave me this thought) is why some gringos are willing to pay high prices in MDE because, well, it's only $XXX in dollars. Huh? If you feel that way, paying a restaurant in MDE what you'd pay in the USA Same for the taxi driver. Same for the hotel or AirBnB. If your gauge on what to pay is the amount in USA Dollars, then don't be hypocritical and apply it only to prepagos.
Whenever I hear someone say "it's only X in USD," I cringe. Who cares? You are in Colombia. The currency is the peso, not the dollar, Prices are in pesos. Most things other than imports are cheap. The Colombian minimum is 1 million pesos a month. I know ladies who clean apartments for 50 mil a DAY. I know a chica that worked in a story in centro for 25 mil a DAY and had to provide her own transportation.
It's not about being cheap, it's about paying something reasonable based on the local economy. These chicas who base their price on the value of the dollar are almost as nuts as the guys who pay that price, rationalizing by saying just how cheap that is in USDs. I get the cheap fuck / Scrooge point, but I think these are the minority of the cases. As I often say, some fellow gringos are our own worst enemies because they drive up the price for no real reason. But whatever. Just my thoughts.It's generally new mongers that do this. I'll admit that I thought that way when I began in this hobby many years ago. Ironically I'm much richer now yet way more judicious about what I donate to the pro chicas when abroad.
Mr Enternational
11-09-22, 06:59
Whenever I hear someone say "it's only X in USD," I cringe. Who cares? You are in Colombia. The currency is the peso, not the dollar, Prices are in pesos. These chicas who base their price on the value of the dollar are almost as nuts as the guys who pay that price, rationalizing by saying just how cheap that is in USDs.If a regular chick is up on it then I can imagine what the hookers that service foreigners are out for. Yesterday a chick that I mess with in Barranquilla hit me up asking was I still going to give her money for her daughter's birthday on the 15th. I said huh? I never said I was going to do that. I asked if her family is still going to Cancun at the end of the month and she said yes. I said well you can just say the Cancun is for her birthday. You do not need a separate celebration. She said yeah but the dollar is up against the peso. I said what the fuck does that have to do with my money; I do not live in Colombia. Even the thought that she suspects other people would want to fund her daughter's birthday is over my head.
YahooDiSingh
11-09-22, 07:07
Hey bro. Where do you find the FB chicks? How do I find them?
Thanks for the intel.
Hi gents,
Its a been a while I wrote a report and even its been 2 years since I traveled either.
Thanks to few members here whose TR are great help, especially the FB route is the only route I have taken in this trip.
Last week trip with my wingman. Landed in BOG for one week trip from YYZ at odd hours and ended up taking the first flight out to CTG instead of MDE as the airport is closed for maintenance.
CTG: Checked into Hampton inn by hilton in boca grande and crashed out after 20+ of travel (YYZ-SAL-BOG-CTG route). What a mess in this itinerary.
Woke up at noon, took claro sim for 40 mil (10 GB. Hardly used 2 GB though) went to creeps & Waffles for lunch, then walked to old town. Strolled around the streets. It was refreshing and relaxed.
Came back to hotel by taking indriver taxi, during drive asked him if he can hook up with chicas as I was only staying for one night before heading to MDE and did not lined up anyone in this city.
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