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YahooDiSingh
11-09-22, 07:17
Yes, but Tinder isn't a social media platform, it's an anonymous dating site. It's specifically designed to keep users from knowing anything about each other, making it perfect for those with bad intentions.
Facebook is harder, because an active account is a busy place. I don't bother with accounts that never post anything, where there's no interaction. It's hard to fake family and friends.How do you find these FB girls?
Parasitius
11-09-22, 11:16
Hey bro. Where do you find the FB chicks? How do I find them?
Thanks for the intel.Did you respect everyone else on the forum by doing a search at all? This isn't children's internet (Facebook, etc), there's a basic etiquette required on twenty plus year old forums such as this or Usenet etc.
What I will never understand (and I'm not saying that's what the post is implying, although it gave me this thought) is why some gringos are willing to pay high prices in MDE because, well, it's only $XXX in dollars. Huh? If you feel that way, paying a restaurant in MDE what you'd pay in the USA Same for the taxi driver. Same for the hotel or AirBnB. If your gauge on what to pay is the amount in USA Dollars, then don't be hypocritical and apply it only to prepagos.
Whenever I hear someone say "it's only X in USD," I cringe. Who cares? You are in Colombia. The currency is the peso, not the dollar, Prices are in pesos. Most things other than imports are cheap. The Colombian minimum is 1 million pesos a month. I know ladies who clean apartments for 50 mil a DAY. I know a chica that worked in a story in centro for 25 mil a DAY and had to provide her own transportation.
It's not about being cheap, it's about paying something reasonable based on the local economy. These chicas who base their price on the value of the dollar are almost as nuts as the guys who pay that price, rationalizing by saying just how cheap that is in USDs. I get the cheap fuck / Scrooge point, but I think these are the minority of the cases. As I often say, some fellow gringos are our own worst enemies because they drive up the price for no real reason. But whatever. Just my thoughts.What I will never understand is dudes willingly paying over US $100 per night for a hotel room but unwilling to pay a girl $10 for her services.
As soon as I hear "that is only $USXX" I shut down. Whoever says it loses all credibility with me. It's illogical and intellectually dishonest. It is a misguided attempt to justify what a guy knows is more than it needs to be. I am all for paying extra for convenience or for necessity, but I have zero patience for bullshit.
What I will never understand (and I'm not saying that's what the post is implying, although it gave me this thought) is why some gringos are willing to pay high prices in MDE because, well, it's only $XXX in dollars. Huh? If you feel that way, paying a restaurant in MDE what you'd pay in the USA Same for the taxi driver. Same for the hotel or AirBnB. If your gauge on what to pay is the amount in USA Dollars, then don't be hypocritical and apply it only to prepagos.
Whenever I hear someone say "it's only X in USD," I cringe. Who cares? You are in Colombia. The currency is the peso, not the dollar, Prices are in pesos. Most things other than imports are cheap. The Colombian minimum is 1 million pesos a month. I know ladies who clean apartments for 50 mil a DAY. I know a chica that worked in a story in centro for 25 mil a DAY and had to provide her own transportation.
It's not about being cheap, it's about paying something reasonable based on the local economy. These chicas who base their price on the value of the dollar are almost as nuts as the guys who pay that price, rationalizing by saying just how cheap that is in USDs. I get the cheap fuck / Scrooge point, but I think these are the minority of the cases. As I often say, some fellow gringos are our own worst enemies because they drive up the price for no real reason. But whatever. Just my thoughts.
I understand what you mean. I find myself doing it to respond to people who ask me about the cost of living in Colombia. I have to compare to USD / euro explain the cost of utilities and food staples.
It's generally new mongers that do this. I'll admit that I thought that way when I began in this hobby many years ago. Ironically I'm much richer now yet way more judicious about what I donate to the pro chicas when abroad.
ChuchoLoco
11-09-22, 15:15
If a regular chick is up on it then I can imagine what the hookers that service foreigners are out for. Yesterday a chick that I mess with in Barranquilla hit me up asking was I still going to give her money for her daughter's birthday on the 15th. I said huh? I never said I was going to do that. I asked if her family is still going to Cancun at the end of the month and she said yes. I said well you can just say the Cancun is for her birthday. You do not need a separate celebration. She said yeah but the dollar is up against the peso. I said what the fuck does that have to do with my money; I do not live in Colombia. Even the thought that she suspects other people would want to fund her daughter's birthday is over my head.You always write with experience and knowledge of people and places so why is this request over your head? It's just the way they are and you of all people should know that. Funny how they think isn't it? They have money to go to Cancun but need money for a kids birthday. That's probably how they pay for the vacation. At least you didn't contribute but how many others may have? I'm guessing that she is no longer in your Barranquilla stable.
...but also not too far from the action. Thank You!You need to explain what action you are looking for.
I was also looking at Hotel Calle Real than I read uber / taxi can't stop in front of the place and I didn't like it for this reason so I'm thinking of Ayenda 1248 Conquistadores, very close to Veracruz street action. My plan is to visits the casas in the afternoon and hunt for street candies in the morning but I don't want to bring them over to my place just love motels. It should be alright to walk from carrera 54 up a little north where la Conejitas and barra ejecutiva are as long as it's not dark and shops are open. Also To check is Ayenda 1235 Botero. I haven't contact them yet, but I would like to know if they accept cash / debit card as per booking. Com they take reservations without online payment. Hotel Calle Real might be girl friendly according to a video on youtube where this guy review the area in regards of mongering.Hotel Real isn't as far from the road as you think it is, easy / quick walk. It is also girl friendly I assure you that, I have had sessions with girls working out of the hotel.
ChuchoLoco
11-09-22, 15:49
If a regular chick is up on it then I can imagine what the hookers that service foreigners are out for. Yesterday a chick that I mess with in Barranquilla hit me up asking was I still going to give her money for her daughter's birthday on the 15th. I said huh? I never said I was going to do that. I asked if her family is still going to Cancun at the end of the month and she said yes. I said well you can just say the Cancun is for her birthday. You do not need a separate celebration. She said yeah but the dollar is up against the peso. I said what the fuck does that have to do with my money; I do not live in Colombia. Even the thought that she suspects other people would want to fund her daughter's birthday is over my head.You always write with experience and knowledge of people and places so why is this request over your head? It's just the way they are and you of all people should know that. Funny how they think isn't it? They have money to go to Cancun but need money for a kids birthday. That's probably how they pay for the vacation. At least you didn't contribute but how many others may have? I'm guessing that she is no longer in your Barranquilla stable.
Whenever I hear someone say "it's only X in USD," I cringe. Who cares? You are in Colombia.
It's not about being cheap, it's about paying something reasonable based on the local economy. I think it allows some people to think that they "live like a king" for a week or 2. That's always been a fantasy of some people.
I think it allows some people to think that they "live like a king" for a week or 2. That's always been a fantasy of some people.Isn't vice versa true too? Think about someone who enjoys meals that cost 5 USD a day and that person can go on like that forever.
What I will never understand (and I'm not saying that's what the post is implying, although it gave me this thought) is why some gringos are willing to pay high prices in MDE because, well, it's only $XXX in dollars. Huh? If you feel that way, paying a restaurant in MDE what you'd pay in the USA Same for the taxi driver. Same for the hotel or AirBnB. If your gauge on what to pay is the amount in USA Dollars, then don't be hypocritical and apply it only to prepagos.
Whenever I hear someone say "it's only X in USD," I cringe. Who cares? You are in Colombia. The currency is the peso, not the dollar, Prices are in pesos. Most things other than imports are cheap. The Colombian minimum is 1 million pesos a month. I know ladies who clean apartments for 50 mil a DAY. I know a chica that worked in a story in centro for 25 mil a DAY and had to provide her own transportation.
It's not about being cheap, it's about paying something reasonable based on the local economy. These chicas who base their price on the value of the dollar are almost as nuts as the guys who pay that price, rationalizing by saying just how cheap that is in USDs. I get the cheap fuck / Scrooge point, but I think these are the minority of the cases. As I often say, some fellow gringos are our own worst enemies because they drive up the price for no real reason. But whatever. Just my thoughts.Lots of these billionaire peso guys go home to apartments they rent and cars they don't own outright. It takes time and effort to accumulate wealth and hold onto it. LOL.
There is nothing wrong with doing things your way. In fact, that's exactly how you should do things. If more people understood that it would simplify things...The local family owned businesses are much more friendly. They always greet you with a smile. Some make you feel like old friend. I went for lunch late yesterday, the waitress told me no sopa before I even said a word because she knows what I like. There are a lot of varieties too by how they cook things. Chicharron for example, different places make them differently.
There is definitely a lot of mindless debates and arguments on this website. I guess it can be amusing to some. I don't know who is right or wrong and I really don't care.....
Dude I'm so done here that I may not posted another MDE report, this is now the rant and bitchin forum. ....I am wondering what is the difference between your posts and the posts you are complaining about?
Hotel Real isn't as far from the road as you think it is, easy / quick walk. It is also girl friendly I assure you that, I have had sessions with girls working out of the hotel.But is it a good idea for a first time visitor to stay there? All the questions about access to the street are secondary. That area can be intimidating, downright terrifying, to many guys. After 8 pm or so it becomes a ghost town. It's convenient for daytime hookers, but might not be right for most guys at night.
Plus, how is room security? While out and about will your stuff be safe? Will you be able to put your valuables out of view and reach from the girls?
I'd suggest a couple of nights in a more reasonable area, like Laureles. The Metro provides quick and cheap access and guys can check out the hotels and area during the day to decide if they want to stay there.
I am wondering what is the difference between your posts and the posts you are complaining about?This is a forum for reports. I think it's valid for peple (like myself) to express their grievances and complain about their bad experiences. Some people really don't like it and they feel the need to invalidate these posts like they feel personally insulted that someone else doesn't like a club's business model. Stuff like that is what starts the back and forth arguing that clog the forum with non-informative posts. So to reiterate, bitching about an experience is valid. Bitching about someone else bitching about their experience is less valid. I've said it before, the button to post says "upload report" for a reason. I don't have much to report. Sessioned with this girl https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/el-servicio-de-lujo-mafer-ardiente-parchada-no-tengo-limites-de-nada/23475752/ she was ok, not as hot as the photos, had a lumpy tongue that put me off, but a nice girl. Other than my Seeking girl contunues to be perfect. (P.S. Let's stop calling it SA, it's not called that anymore, and abbreviations only make shit more confusing.).
There is nothing wrong with doing things your way. In fact, that's exactly how you should do things. If more people understood that it would simplify things.
I've eaten a lot of 8 k-10 k meals, drank my share of 2 k-3 k beers and ridden many a bus, starting when they were 1900. I'll vouch that those prices are right.
There are many different sides to mongering and exploring Medellin. You can spend a little, or spend a lot. In the end, if you're feeling good about it, it was worth what you sent.Though if someone soon finds out that they spent way more than they needed to for the same product, then in all likelihood they will stop "feeling good about it. " Ignorance ceases to be bliss. Plus by sharing divergent experiences here one may learn from others how to enjoy themselves even more and for longer. If everyone embraced the ultra relativist, "simple" "do it your way, if it feels good do it and don't tell others what to you" angle you propose ad nauseam year after year here, we might as well close up shop. The forum loses most of it's purpose.
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea and get some pretty strong reactions, but I'm looking for a prostate expert!
Looking for any recommendations! Hot and young even better.
Feel free to PM.
I think I have had enough of san peter apartment. The street noise becomes unbearable on weekends, Also they have jacked up prices by 30% so it is no longer desirable for me.
What other AirBNBs and girl friendly hotels exist nearby that are popular with punters and provide excellent value and a quite stay?
Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea and get some pretty strong reactions, but I'm looking for a prostate expert!
Looking for any recommendations! Hot and young even better.
Feel free to PM.Theirs a guy name bubbles that hangs out in the park, ask any girl their they know him, good luck bud, hope this helps.
....Last week I met the hottest girl I have met in Medellin.... I will repeat with her because it gave me the satisfaction in my head. ....While we were having sex and I was having my satisfaction last night, out of nowhere some ISG names pop up in my head. WTF!
While we were having sex and I was having my satisfaction last night, out of nowhere some ISG names pop up in my head. WTF!The worry would be if that was the CAUSE of your satisfaction.
Ur inbox is full.
This is a forum for reports. ...So to reiterate, bitching about an experience is valid....I've said it before, the button to post says "upload report" for a reason.Yeah but 'report' has various meanings itself.
You could say it means a report on a girl. But in my experience that is total worthless apart from for entertainment value. There are countless reasons why one person might have a great experience with one gierl, while another has a nightmare. Its useless to look for validation in such reports.
You could talk about a location, bar, club, etc, Same. Changes day to day, hour to hour.
Or you could report about your experiences on the city in general. And to me that's the best info, bcos I don't care about your feelings but I do care if you provide some entertainment or some interesting debate. That's all I am here for. Some entertainment and some stimulation.
So let's have at it. Provide your worthless chica reviews, and then lets have a good debate about prices and quality. Hehe.
Ok folks, just for today, I will try to add something different for you to complain about it.
I met this girl a few weeks ago. I find her fascinating bcos she is so different to the majority in MDE / Col.
Every time I meet her she has a faint odour over her body. Nothing bad, just a natural odour. An odour that most girls seek to hide below dozens of squirts of some perfume spray or other. Some might find her odour offensive. I find it charming.
When we have sex and she spreads them wide and proud, she has an odour down there too. She gets wet, gooey and funky. She has an odour, but again, I find it a turn on that I can smell her getting horny. It's not a disease, its just a natural odour. That's how things are supposed to be. Maybe when I was younger I would have objected, but these days I don't GAF. I enjoy the extra range of experience she provides.
I have heard so many times here of guys doing a sniff test etc. To me, that is so ridiculous. We live on different planets. This is why reports are pointless apart from entertainment value.
Elvis 2008
11-10-22, 04:32
What I will never understand is dudes willingly paying over US $100 per night for a hotel room but unwilling to pay a girl $10 for her services.LOL. Let me expand on that: $2500 on a first class ticket, $300 a night at the Marriott, $200 steak dinner, and then paying a La Isla girl $200 a night, and you have these dummies on here screaming, "You way overpaid. You are fucking up the ecosystem".
And you never hear anyone criticize the first three things because it is known. We all know about cheaper hotels, restaurants ETC but when it comes to women no one knows anything unless I show them a picture and talk about the sex. So if you are criticizing a guy for overpaying, that assumes you know the looks of the women and quality of sex the other guy had and you know that you got the equivalent experience for much less money. But how can anyone know that? There is no way of knowing that so the loser criticizing someone else for overspending assumes that the sex you had was the equal of his which is the epitome of delusion and narcissism, and it results in the ultimate childhood pronouncement, "The reason I am not having that much great sex is because of other guys. " How stupid is that?
The truth is the guys who really are fucking up the market are the ones fucking the dog shit ugly women in Centro for $10. That ruins the market as ugly women now think they should get paid for sex. I could not find any attractive women to fuck because of those assholes. / s. He he he.
Ok folks, just for today, I will try to add something different for you to complain about it.
I met this girl a few weeks ago. I find her fascinating bcos she is so different to the majority in MDE / Col.
Every time I meet her she has a faint odour over her body. Nothing bad, just a natural odour. An odour that most girls seek to hide below dozens of squirts of some perfume spray or other. Some might find her odour offensive. I find it charming.
When we have sex and she spreads them wide and proud, she has an odour down there too. She gets wet, gooey and funky. She has an odour, but again, I find it a turn on that I can smell her getting horny. It's not a disease, its just a natural odour. That's how things are supposed to be. Maybe when I was younger I would have objected, but these days I don't GAF. I enjoy the extra range of experience she provides.
I have heard so many times here of guys doing a sniff test etc. To me, that is so ridiculous. We live on different planets. This is why reports are pointless apart from entertainment value.I have one that gets wet and kind of like gushes when she comes and it's very silky, perhaps gooey as you describe, albeit no odor.
I can totally relate to the uniqueness of your girl.
And what does GAF mean?
John Clayton
11-10-22, 06:29
Ok folks, just for today, I will try to add something different for you to complain about it.
I met this girl a few weeks ago. I find her fascinating bcos she is so different to the majority in MDE / Col.
Every time I meet her she has a faint odour over her body. Nothing bad, just a natural odour. An odour that most girls seek to hide below dozens of squirts of some perfume spray or other. Some might find her odour offensive. I find it charming.
When we have sex and she spreads them wide and proud, she has an odour down there too. She gets wet, gooey and funky. She has an odour, but again, I find it a turn on that I can smell her getting horny. It's not a disease, its just a natural odour. That's how things are supposed to be. Maybe when I was younger I would have objected, but these days I don't GAF. I enjoy the extra range of experience she provides.
I have heard so many times here of guys doing a sniff test etc. To me, that is so ridiculous. We live on different planets. This is why reports are pointless apart from entertainment value.That's how we used to be -- girls didn't pluck out every single hair. I was so angry once when my GF shaved her armpits for a formal event -- what a waste!
I have one that gets wet and kind of like gushes when she comes and it's very silky, perhaps gooey as you describe.
And what does GAF mean?Gooey, silky. Haha, yeah I guess that fits the bill. Kinds sticky. Gets up my nostrils. Haha.
Earthy smell. I thought of that while I was sleeping last night. As JC wrote, it is probably just how things were before modern toiletries were invented. I also reckon these types of odours most often have evolved to attract us males to females to perform our evolutionary duties. But We have moved so far away from nature, that I reckon many folks will find it offensive.
GAF. Give a FK. :)
I was so angry once when my GF shaved her armpits for a formal event -- what a waste!What a waste? Of armpot hair? I didn't realise there was a market for selling armpit hair. :)
Ok folks, just for today, I will try to add something different for you to complain about it.
I met this girl a few weeks ago. I find her fascinating bcos she is so different to the majority in MDE / Col.
Every time I meet her she has a faint odour over her body. Nothing bad, just a natural odour. An odour that most girls seek to hide below dozens of squirts of some perfume spray or other. Some might find her odour offensive. I find it charming.
When we have sex and she spreads them wide and proud, she has an odour down there too. She gets wet, gooey and funky. She has an odour, but again, I find it a turn on that I can smell her getting horny. It's not a disease, its just a natural odour. That's how things are supposed to be. Maybe when I was younger I would have objected, but these days I don't GAF. I enjoy the extra range of experience she provides.
I have heard so many times here of guys doing a sniff test etc. To me, that is so ridiculous. We live on different planets. This is why reports are pointless apart from entertainment value.My wife had that. It wasn't offensive at all, but it would fill our condo after an inspired tryst. Her best friend used to comment on it, when she dropped by shortly after we'd finished. She tried for months to talk my wife into a threesome. John Clayton would have appreciated her. She was cultured, educated and had a full Bush and untrimmed armpits.
Occasionally, I'll catch a girl with the same odor. It's the natural aroma of a balanced and healthy ecosystem. Unfortunately, they don't all have that odor. Occasionally you'll find a girl who, to quote an old friend, "smells like the shithouse door on a tuna boat. ".
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The truth is the guys who really are fucking up the market are the ones fucking the dog shit ugly women in Centro for $10. That ruins the market as ugly women now think they should get paid for sex. I could not find any attractive women to fuck because of those assholes. / s. He he he.Instead of generalizing, I give specific observation. I went to gusto last week. The pretties girl is a tall Negra with nose ring. More than half should not be there, meaning charging that kind of money, I won't even take one of them for 30 mil.
Some mongers are paying more because of competition. You already implies so with your own situation. I said this a few times before. Online dating is asymmetric and it benefits the seller. One pays more because he has to outbid the other foreign mongers. Using seeking as an example, all the mongers on it are bidding against each other in some way. In El Centro, mongers share more, instead of compete, that reduces the cost.
As for quality, last time I checked Seeking, two of the best looking by pictures are two higher price FB girls. One is Negra who goes by Vitoria. The other is a Blanca who goes by Elisabeth. Members will know who I am talking about if you are on FB long enough.
Gooey, silky. Haha, yeah I guess that fits the bill. Kinds sticky. Gets up my nostrils. Haha.
Earthy smell. I thought of that while I was sleeping last night. As JC wrote, it is probably just how things were before modern toiletries were invented. I also reckon these types of odours most often have evolved to attract us males to females to perform our evolutionary duties. But We have moved so far away from nature, that I reckon many folks will find it offensive.
GAF. Give a FK. :)I guess I am lucky. The hot girl asked me this. LOL. I cleared my inbox
John Clayton
11-10-22, 18:59
I guess I am lucky. The hot girl asked me this. LOL. I cleared my inboxIMHO, I think the shaving / waxing of pubes is an atrocity. Back in the day, (at maximum) girls shaved back to the border of (comparatively modest) bathing suits. I think the depiliated pubes is done (subconsciously) to appear prepubescent. (Honestly, I haven't got a f at cking clue why guys do it.).
Elvis 2008
11-10-22, 19:00
Some mongers are paying more because of competition. You already implies so with your own situation. I said this a few times before. Online dating is asymmetric and it benefits the seller..Nounce, if you go back, you will see I banged a seeking WG type, posted her photo, and guys asked me via PM for her number and got it. Yes, there are some WG types on seeking and they can affect the market.
But I have told guys to try not offer money to seeking women and had drag out arguments with guys about doing this. No WG is going to come see you without a price but I had dozens of women from seeking who would. The guys who tried my approach often succeeded. What the Medellin price police do not get is THOSE seeking women are not in competition for the women they see.
The Medellin price police does not believe that I met hotties without mention of price and banged them bareback. And they do not believe any woman who said I was her first date off of seeking or I or any other guys dated any of Colombia's societal elite when we did.
IMO it is noble to say what you paid and give out information, and it is totally boneheaded in most cases to make a judgement about what someone else paid. You have to assume it is apples to apples comparison and as I have just shown, so often it is not.
DallasWolf
11-10-22, 22:40
Hello Everyone. I am from Dallas and I am thinking about visiting Medellin for the 1st time. I need your help regarding hotel or Airbnb selection, Places where I can easily find girls etc. Any recommendation or guidance will be appreciated. Thank You.
I think I have had enough of san peter apartment. The street noise becomes unbearable on weekends, Also they have jacked up prices by 30% so it is no longer desirable for me.
What other AirBNBs and girl friendly hotels exist nearby that are popular with punters and provide excellent value and a quite stay?
Thank you in advance for any suggestions.Any suggestions anyone? I know eldorado hotel is one such alternative but there is got to be lot more. Specially apartments.
ChuchoLoco
11-11-22, 00:44
IMHO, I think the shaving / waxing of pubes is an atrocity. Back in the day, (at maximum) girls shaved back to the border of (comparatively modest) bathing suits. I think the depiliated pubes is done (subconsciously) to appear prepubescent. (Honestly, I haven't got a f at cking clue why guys do it.).Hahaha, what a memory for us older guys. Remember spitting and pulling pubes from your mouth after giving a good tongue lashing? It took only my first time with a young shaved pus to really appreciate a bald one although a Bush with a little of her favorite body powder was delightful. It's all good!
IMHO, I think the shaving / waxing of pubes is an atrocity. Back in the day, (at maximum) girls shaved back to the border of (comparatively modest) bathing suits. I think the depiliated pubes is done (subconsciously) to appear prepubescent. (Honestly, I haven't got a f at cking clue why guys do it.).I like pussy whether it's hairy or completely shaved or just a landing strip. Good pussy is good.
Steve 9696
11-11-22, 01:44
Hahaha, what a memory for us older guys. Remember spitting and pulling pubes from your mouth after giving a good tongue lashing? It took only my first time with a young shaved pus to really appreciate a bald one although a Bush with a little of her favorite body powder was delightful. It's all good!Regardless of the aesthetic, no one enjoys hairs in their mouth. I appreciate a shaved pussy for just that reason. And it goes both ways. Been shaving my balls for about a year now. The amount of ball licking and sucking I get is easily 3 X. And bonus it feels better too! Just don't shave the hair between balls and thigh. That's a good buffer. Else your balls stick to your thigh all the time.
Ps Venus razor clearly designed by god himself. So awesome.
I've decided I want to stay in Laureles, what are girl friendly hotels? Preferably not too expensive.
Feel free to PM if you like.
Any suggestions anyone? I know eldorado hotel is one such alternative but there is got to be lot more. Specially apartments.I've stayed in 4 Airbnbs in the area and none were guest friendly.
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11-11-22, 06:55
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Seeing police taking away girls, rappers, etc. Anyone know what's happening?
All information appreciated.
I just arrived from the airport so I decided to stop by Pamela's on Carrera 45 # 57-71, the line up was crappy, but I decide to choose a girl anyways since chica punta's and Zaza's wasn't so great either, and it was getting late. She actually offered me a BBBJ upfront, so I offered her 20 k, She accepted. She didn't give the best BJ. Their usually so rough by pulling it or when their on top they rock back and forth feeling like their going to rip it out of the socket. When the session was over I washed up in the sink and she went in the shower afterwards. While she was showering she said something I didn't understand she put 5 fingers out and my first thought was she was trying to get 50 k out of me, which wasn't going happen. We agreed on 20k, which is what I gave her with no incident. Later when arriving back at my hotel I took my clothes off and a small bag fell on the floor and it was the codom disposal bag from the casa with tissues and everything along with a bloody condom. I don, t know how it ended up on me. I mean I had her in my view when I was washing in the sink, but she was bent down near my pants. I didn't noticed anything. Maybe she turned one of my 50 k notes into a bloody condom bag. Maybe that's what the 5 fingers meant. I hope it was the one I used. I'm glad l didn't do her bareback.
The worry would be if that was the CAUSE of your satisfaction.l.The sex wasn't good. The only thing kept me going was that I think she was pretty in my head, and those names killed it.
She wasn't happy because she was early and I kept her waiting right outside my door. LOL. We scheduled for 9 PM originally, then she said 8 PM, and I said it was fine. She arrived too early but I misunderstood the messages due to my bad Spanish. The doorman must already know her so he let her in. I did not expect that she was right outside my door. I was still busy so didn't really pay attention.
I contacted her in June but never got a date. She gave me a minimum amount she would accept and I agreed, but I think she wanted more or still have better option so still no date. By that point, I thought she was fake. She contacted me a week ago for a cita. I think she needed money then. Sometimes I wondered if the girl feels "living like a queen" which changes the power dynamic when she makes enough money in a short period of time. I gave another girl enough money to pay her rent for one cita after I was away from MDE for a while. She disappeared for a week before contacting me again. LOL. Now she constantly asked why I don't see her anymore but I would not really tell what I think. So I think I got to keep them hungry so they would be eager to come back for more.
I hopped on probably the second or the last Metro to go to EL Centro to see a new girl. There were still a few girls out. She said Botero but I could not find her so I went to have my fried chicken. I told the girl to meet me at the chicken stand and I would buy her fried chicken. She tried but wasn't familiar with the area to find it. I told her I would be at Botero Real in 3 minutes and we met there. She came like she just got out of bed in her sleeping clothes. I was full and wasn't in the mood to have sex, especially not after I see her in her current state. I took her to the chicken stand, then took her back to her hotel which is on Cr53 right next to the casino around the corner. She said "hoy me fue mal" or something like that. She did not have a client and she was hungry. I don't know if the hungry thing is real or not as many of them will say that.
The day before, another girl came at 3 AM, wearing similar cloth and with her eyeglasses so I gave her some money and sent her back.
Two days before that, I had two girls. They didn't "organize" and came in clothes that they probably normally wear at home. This is the first for me to see them like this. The new girl started to put on her makeup after sitting down and she wore eyeglasses when she came in which I don't like either. She is a pig, non stop drinking and asked me to gift her the watermelon in my fridge to take home. LOL. The only positive of her is that she is 18 but I thought she was 20 or more from her pictures. I agree to this because I know one of the girls well. I did not know she was a bi or lesbian so I decided to pay and watch. Again I wasn't paying too much attention to the messages at that time. I wasn't sure I want to keep her overnight because I rarely do that but I was thinking just put her in another room if I decided to let her stay.
Ok folks, just for today, I will try to add something different for you to complain about it.
I met this girl a few weeks ago. I find her fascinating bcos she is so different to the majority in MDE / Col.
Every time I meet her she has a faint odour over her body. Nothing bad, just a natural odour. An odour that most girls seek to hide below dozens of squirts of some perfume spray or other. Some might find her odour offensive. I find it charming.
When we have sex and she spreads them wide and proud, she has an odour down there too. She gets wet, gooey and funky. She has an odour, but again, I find it a turn on that I can smell her getting horny. It's not a disease, its just a natural odour. That's how things are supposed to be. Maybe when I was younger I would have objected, but these days I don't GAF. I enjoy the extra range of experience she provides.
I have heard so many times here of guys doing a sniff test etc. To me, that is so ridiculous. We live on different planets. This is why reports are pointless apart from entertainment value.If the girl is hot I do a sniff test. If she is not hot I pass on the DATY, go straight on to FS with foreplay only until turgidity. The sniff test is mandatory for DATY. If the odor is offensive then no DATY. If the odor is absent or pleasant then let the feast begin.
There has been a lot of talk about smelly pussies. At least with the girls from Facebook that I have seen, it has not been a problem. Everyone smells nice. So far everyone is also been cleanly shaved. That has been my experience and I like it that way. I'm not finished with my trip but so far I have not been robbed or drugged but there are still a few days to go.
As in my first trip, I've been pleasantly surprised with the GFE experiences of the Facebook girls. That is not to say that some have not been flaky but I have learned to have backup options in anticipation of this.
Twice, a scheduled girl has not shown up or cancel at the last minute. In both instances, I went down my list of Facebook girls and scheduled another girl in her place and everything worked out.
I finally went down to El Centro and I felt it was similar to other downtown regions in Latin America. In the daytime at least I did not feel that it was scary or dangerous but you do have to be alert and on guard of your possessions.
I'm sticking with the girls from Facebook so I do not have any experiences with the street walkers or the casa girls. It may be the case that they are good bang for your buck but I am content with what I am paying for GFE with the girls from Facebook.
In my first trip, I said that the girls were giving relatively short blowjobs, usually 5 minutes or so. That has also been the case here on this trip. The blowjob is decent and even good but just short. And yes I did ask them to continue and they continued on for a few more minutes before wanting to have sex. But when it comes to sex, they are willing to accommodate many positions for as long as you would like. At least that has been my experience with the girls in Facebook.
ChuchoLoco
11-11-22, 18:57
Regardless of the aesthetic, no one enjoys hairs in their mouth. I appreciate a shaved pussy for just that reason. And it goes both ways. Been shaving my balls for about a year now. The amount of ball licking and sucking I get is easily 3 X. And bonus it feels better too! Just don't shave the hair between balls and thigh. That's a good buffer. Else your balls stick to your thigh all the time.
Ps Venus razor clearly designed by god himself. So awesome.You must be a younger guy and that's fine so let me explain. There was a time when girls had hairy bushes and shaving didn't exist for the Bush. I started eating at the why in 1968 when hair was the norm and for a young guy just starting to get sex and eat the pus, a hair was kind of something to be proud of. It meant you just had a Happy Meal. Doesn't sound so good now but it was then. I now enjoy a bald pus and it is obvious that the chicas like shaved balls etc. Norms change. Colombian men shave their armpits and chest, maybe legs. I'll shave my boys and their neighborhood but that's about it.
She spitted during BBBJ. The only place she was not aiming at was her own shoes. Put your shoes next to hers to be safe when you session. It's much worst than it showed. LOL.
Guys.
Seeing police taking away girls, rappers, etc. Anyone know what's happening?
All information appreciated.Supposedly the Park is going to re-open soon, my guess is that want to try to clean the area up before re-opening, but who knows?
She spitted during BBBJ. The only place she was not aiming at was her own shoes. Put your shoes next to hers to be safe when you session. It's much worst than it showed. LOL.Well just imagine if you had blown your load in her mouth what she might of done.
That one is not a repeat for sure.
The best ones swallow if you come in their mouth, and if they don't, they are being very disrespectful of you.
The swallowers are hard to come by, and when you encounter one, they are to be cherished. LOL.
I had one that typically wanted me to come in her mouth and would suck me dry. It was like a challenge for her as she got off on it. Too bad I lost contact with her.
And I have two girls in my stable who recently blew me and too my surprise swallowed as well.
My leche must taste like a vanilla shake, but I doubt it.
Mr Enternational
11-11-22, 20:26
She came like she just got out of bed in her sleeping clothes. I was full and wasn't in the mood to have sex, especially not after I see her in her current state.
The day before, another girl came at 3 AM, wearing similar cloth and with her eyeglasses so I gave her some money and sent her back.Damn man. That is exactly how I like mine to show up. Natural and ready for bed. Damn all that war paint and BS. You won't even let a bih wear glasses! You are hard man.
She spitted during BBBJ. The only place she was not aiming at was her own shoes. Put your shoes next to hers to be safe when you session. It's much worst than it showed. LOL.What a waste of good lube. I'd rather she spit it on my cock and then slurp it up again, but that's me of course.
ContinentalF
11-12-22, 03:03
There has been a lot of talk about smelly pussies. At least with the girls from Facebook that I have seen, it has not been a problem. Everyone smells nice. So far everyone is also been cleanly shaved. That has been my experience and I like it that way. I'm not finished with my trip but so far I have not been robbed or drugged but there are still a few days to go.
As in my first trip, I've been pleasantly surprised with the GFE experiences of the Facebook girls. That is not to say that some have not been flaky but I have learned to have backup options in anticipation of this.
Twice, a scheduled girl has not shown up or cancel at the last minute. In both instances, I went down my list of Facebook girls and scheduled another girl in her place and everything worked out.
I finally went down to El Centro and I felt it was similar to other downtown regions in Latin America. In the daytime at least I did not feel that it was scary or dangerous but you do have to be alert and on guard of your possessions.
I'm sticking with the girls from Facebook so I do not have any experiences with the street walkers or the casa girls. It may be the case that they are good bang for your buck but I am content with what I am paying for GFE with the girls from Facebook.
In my first trip, I said that the girls were giving relatively short blowjobs, usually 5 minutes or so. That has also been the case here on this trip. The blowjob is decent and even good but just short. And yes I did ask them to continue and they continued on for a few more minutes before wanting to have sex. But when it comes to sex, they are willing to accommodate many positions for as long as you would like. At least that has been my experience with the girls in Facebook.Medellin girls view blowjobs and kissing as something very intimate. Having sex. No problem, there is no personal connection associated with it. Kissing or blowjobs. Usually reserved for those they care about or are interested in. Not saying it doesn't exist in other forms, but it's the nature of the culture here.
YahooDiSingh
11-12-22, 07:35
I heard theres a manshion spot you can go to and they will line up 10's and 20's girls in front of you more up scale form of mongering in medllin can someone please let me know what this manshion brothel house is??
Thank you.
Meeting girls over 10's, all night bareback without discussion of price and thinking that they'll just take what you offer sounds great. Sign me up but for the average monger, it is a riskier approach. It is possible that your expectations on reasonable compensation and her expectations about proper conversation may not align. In that situation, it could turn ugly. Services have been rendered and now you are negotiating price after the fact. I'm not saying that you can't do this but I'm suggesting that it is a riskier approach.
It did make me go back and read the article about the secret service controversy. It happened in Cartagena and a secret service agent met a young attractive girl and they spent the night together and have fun. He was 40 and fit and thought that It was just a normal pickup and one night stand. She expected $800 US.
She told the authorities that she had told the guy this beforehand but I doubt it. In the morning she told him that he had to pay her and his response was I'm not paying you money ***** or something like that. He tossed her out the room and she was very upset. The article said he gave her $30 before he threw out of the room. She banged on the door where her friend was with another secret service agent. That agent collected money from the other agents and they gave her $250 US and she was fine with that and left.
But there was a lot of commotion and yelling and the police were called. Please told the secret service guys that they should pay the girl and that is why they collected the money.
Afterwards, the hotel informed the secret service agency about the incident and then the whole thing blew up.
So I'm not saying that this will happen to you but if you have an agreement as to price prior to the meeting it will not happen.
I have met a lot of girls on Facebook and we've chatted for quite some time and a number of them have not mentioned any money expected. But I am the one who brings it up and none have been offended. They have responded with a number or they have said what will you give me my love. And then the negotiation starts. Most except my initial offer but some do not and feel that it is too low or they laugh at it.
I just think it is good for the two parties to have an agreement prior to meeting so that there's no disagreement on money after the fact.
On my first trip, I had that exact same problem. I met a girl that we have been chatting for a while and she seemed very excited to meet me. We never discuss price. We spent some time together, had a good time, and at the end, She said we have to square the money my love. I gave her what I thought was reasonable and she said you have to give me more. So I gave her a little bit more and she said you have to give me more my love. At that point the mood soured and I asked her to leave the room. She's very quiet, and not happy but she did not raise a fuss. She quietly got her things and left but it was not a pleasant experience.
That was my first girl on my first trip in Medellin.
So I'm not telling anybody what they should do. I'm just giving my opinion and you can do what you want.
I heard theres a manshion spot you can go to and they will line up 10's and 20's girls in front of you more up scale form of mongering in medllin can someone please let me know what this manshion brothel house is??
Thank you.It is not at all like that. Do a search on this forum for mansion and you will find lots of information.
Dude with 2000+ posts one would think you're posting truthful info but you're not. If you hate SA / Seeking and not using it as you sound, why make a comment on something you don't know? Geesh why assuming and be dead wrong and be laughed at by the guys who use it?
No, men aren't bidding for pussy nor have we a price war in seeking lmao. Dude, majority of girls on seeking are non pros or semi pros.
The pros are the ONLY ones who want the price upfront before the meet. I'm in Bogota now and only 1 out of 10 appointments discussed price upfront cause she insisted.
.Thanks for that solid take. I'm going to register and pay for a month prior to my Medellin trip. Do you find a lot of flaky meetups or catfishes? Can you search by country / city?
Thanks for that solid take. I'm going to register and pay for a month prior to my Medellin trip. Do you find a lot of flaky meetups or catfishes? Can you search by country / city?Take his post, and every other post praising something to the moon, with a grain of salt. Posts that condemn everything are also to be viewed with a healthy dose of skepticism.
Everyone has things they are passionate about. They tend to overlook the flaws and exaggerate the strengths. Their situation may also be much different from your situation. Those who regularly use SA (or Seeking) have often mentioned a long weeding out process, along with wasted meetings when expectations don't align.
As with every other online fishing hole, you will also find sharks in those waters. While it may be perfect for you, it might also be a waste of time. Don't dive in headfirst just because someone says it's fine. And definitely don't put all your eggs in one basket.
It is not at all like that. Do a search on this forum for mansion and you will find lots of information.I believe he's talking about Loutron. I'm not really sure about 10's and 20's girls. I'm hoping he's not talking about ages.
This is one of the best picadas I have in Medellin. It only comes out during weekend frequently with long line so now I always look forward to Saturday morning. Old John in Sabaneta also has good picada and it was just meat and sousage. If you want good authentic Colombia food, you can find it there.
I passed by El Centro and grabbed the new Negra to have this for breakfast since I mentioned I would buy her breakfast the other day and this fulfills that promise. I also don't have any intention to session with her again, just to be clear about my motive. She told me sorry I don't like it once she saw the food. Haha, that is understandable. I did show her a picture before taking her.
I drink the local energy drink Vive. There are these wholesale guys kind of kill the small guys IMO. I discovered it by accident in the rain that 6 bottles was 10 mil, instead of 15 mil you get in the supermarket like Exito. The unit price is about the same whether you buy one or 6 based on my experience.
I agree that kissing and French kissing is reserved for more meaningful relationships. In fact, it's one of the rating categories we use on the Colombian version of this website that I follow. I've learned it is also a thing among Colombian men. A small percentage of the members there say they don't kiss. Most rate the girls according to whether they kiss and if they kiss deeply or just give pecks. Blowjobs on the other hand are as much the coin of the realm as vaginal and anal sex. There is a bit of back and forth about BBBJ vs covered but I think a session with a girl who withholds oral sex is generally considered a ripoff. Am I wrong?
Medellin girls view blowjobs and kissing as something very intimate. Having sex. No problem, there is no personal connection associated with it. Kissing or blowjobs. Usually reserved for those they care about or are interested in. Not saying it doesn't exist in other forms, but it's the nature of the culture here.
The Secret Service incident is a very good cautionary tale. The advantages of settling negotiations before the fact far outweigh the disadvantages (e. G. It takes the romance out of it or it kills the mood). In the end these are business transactions.
Meeting girls over 10's, all night bareback without discussion of price and thinking that they'll just take what you offer sounds great. Sign me up but for the average monger, it is a riskier approach. It is possible that your expectations on reasonable compensation and her expectations about proper conversation may not align. In that situation, it could turn ugly. Services have been rendered and now you are negotiating price after the fact. I'm not saying that you can't do this but I'm suggesting that it is a riskier approach.
It did make me go back and read the article about the secret service controversy. It happened in Cartagena and a secret service agent met a young attractive girl and they spent the night together and have fun. He was 40 and fit and thought that It was just a normal pickup and one night stand. She expected $800 US.
She told the authorities that she had told the guy this beforehand but I doubt it. In the morning she told him that he had to pay her and his response was I'm not paying you money ***** or something like that. He tossed her out the room and she was very upset. The article said he gave her $30 before he threw out of the room. She banged on the door where her friend was with another secret service agent. That agent collected money from the other agents and they gave her $250 US and she was fine with that and left.
But there was a lot of commotion and yelling and the police were called. Please told the secret service guys that they should pay the girl and that is why they collected the money.
Afterwards, the hotel informed the secret service agency about the incident and then the whole thing blew up.
So I'm not saying that this will happen to you but if you have an agreement as to price prior to the meeting it will not happen.
I have met a lot of girls on Facebook and we've chatted for quite some time and a number of them have not mentioned any money expected. But I am the one who brings it up and none have been offended. They have responded with a number or they have said what will you give me my love. And then the negotiation starts. Most except my initial offer but some do not and feel that it is too low or they laugh at it.
I just think it is good for the two parties to have an agreement prior to meeting so that there's no disagreement on money after the fact.
On my first trip, I had that exact same problem. I met a girl that we have been chatting for a while and she seemed very excited to meet me. We never discuss price. We spent some time together, had a good time, and at the end, She said we have to square the money my love. I gave her what I thought was reasonable and she said you have to give me more. So I gave her a little bit more and she said you have to give me more my love. At that point the mood soured and I asked her to leave the room. She's very quiet, and not happy but she did not raise a fuss. She quietly got her things and left but it was not a pleasant experience.
That was my first girl on my first trip in Medellin.
So I'm not telling anybody what they should do. I'm just giving my opinion and you can do what you want.
I agree that kissing and French kissing is reserved for more meaningful relationships. In fact, it's one of the rating categories we use on the Colombian version of this website that I follow. I've learned it is also a thing among Colombian men. A small percentage of the members there say they don't kiss. Most rate the girls according to whether they kiss and if they kiss deeply or just give pecks. Blowjobs on the other hand are as much the coin of the realm as vaginal and anal sex. There is a bit of back and forth about BBBJ vs covered but I think a session with a girl who withholds oral sex is generally considered a ripoff. Am I wrong?I think that blowjobs need to be part of the deal. I have not yet met someone from Facebook who did not give a blowjob. My complaint is that the blowjob is relatively short, less than 5 minutes. In my visits to Guadalajara and my reports there, The escorts were giving very long blowjobs if requested and most permitted CIM. Blowjobs were very impressive. So far that has not been the case here but it is more because the blowjobs are short and meant as a prelude to the main event. But the girls in Medellin do good a decent short blowjob and then usually have sex for a long time or as long as you would like.
Like. No complaints about the sex in Medellin.
MaddTraveler
11-12-22, 19:57
Thanks for that solid take. I'm going to register and pay for a month prior to my Medellin trip. Do you find a lot of flaky meetups or catfishes? Can you search by country / city?You want to know something funny! After I discovered SA and being in this hobby, at first I hesitated sharing intel w a bunch of horny and thirsty dudes on sites like this one so they don't go ruin it, but then I realize few others were on it and discussed it, yet sooooo many don't believe the reports and stay away from it. Meaning it's not for everyone, which is good.
Part of it is because it's not cheap, and also most guys prefer point and click environment and are lazy to actually take a girl on a date, or have small talk, etc. So now I don't mind sharing bc I know the losers will stay away. But if you're the guy who want to travel and want to diversity your time between casas / hardcore putas, and also go on actual dates with beautiful ladies, then it's for you.
So to answer your question, yes some will flake obviously but it's rare tbh. Remember majority of these ladies aren't considered "putas" or "working girls". Clearly lots of hardcore pros are on there, some not even pretending. Prob lke 10-20%. So most are normal chicas, low mileage LOL. For the guys who think it's dangerous to not set a price upfront, this I agree when it comes to most actual putas and pros, and the problem ones won't meet you anyway without a price.
There are clearly two different types of mongers, no offense of course: The 1st type failed in women, barely had any real dates or romance in his life, never married likely, so the concept of dating and being romantic is super foreign to him and mongering is by no choice. So this ain't for you. The 2nd type is the guy with a higher sex drive, marriage or real GF isn't enough, or got divorced, tired of entitled and feminazis / us cultured women, and now just want to be free, mongering by choice and for fun. This then maybe for you LOL.
Referring to another comment I read. I'm not sure why the idea of taking a woman on a date or just to grab lunch or drink without talking about price is dangerous lmao. We're talking about a normal girl w a job, a student, where many never fucked for money before. Also w exchange of messages how tf will she accuse of owing her anything? Remember the site is a dating site, not a puta site like mileroticos.
What I tell them is simple, let's meet for a drink, get to know each other a bit and see if we have chemistry, then we can discuss an arrangement that works for both of us. I do the same shit in the US on the site, most use it the same way. Even some hardcore pros agrees w this and I'm usually more impressed when a hardcore pro waste 3-4 hrs w me in a bar LOL, then go bang her for 300 k, and the 3-4 hrs is free time LOL. It's not so complicated. If you can do it w pros, you can do it w normal chics.
I would say to activate the paid membership 1-2 weeks before you land, it does require a few days of convo to find out which one you vibe with. Exchange whatsapp and only discuss pricing after you're in COL. Remember the site is US regulated and any biz discussion and pricing will be deemed illegal. Some profiles are fake, so due diligence like everything else, don't send money even if in Colombia, you could be sending to a john w a dick longer than yours. Other than that have fun!
Take his post, and every other post praising something to the moon, with a grain of salt. Posts that condemn everything are also to be viewed with a healthy dose of skepticism.
Everyone has things they are passionate about. They tend to overlook the flaws and exaggerate the strengths. Their situation may also be much different from your situation. Those who regularly use SA (or Seeking) have often mentioned a long weeding out process, along with wasted meetings when expectations don't align.
As with every other online fishing hole, you will also find sharks in those waters. While it may be perfect for you, it might also be a waste of time. Don't dive in headfirst just because someone says it's fine. And definitely don't put all your eggs in one basket.Thanks for the advice. Relatively speaking its not much for a month. I will be in MDE 3. 5 weeks, so clock is ticking.
Anthony Bourdain would be proud.
This is one of the best picadas I have in Medellin. It only comes out during weekend frequently with long line so now I always look forward to Saturday morning. Old John in Sabaneta also has good picada and it was just meat and sousage. If you want good authentic Colombia food, you can find it there.
I passed by El Centro and grabbed the new Negra to have this for breakfast since I mentioned I would buy her breakfast the other day and this fulfills that promise. I also don't have any intention to session with her again, just to be clear about my motive. She told me sorry I don't like it once she saw the food. Haha, that is understandable. I did show her a picture before taking her.
I drink the local energy drink Vive. There are these wholesale guys kind of kill the small guys IMO. I discovered it by accident in the rain that 6 bottles was 10 mil, instead of 15 mil you get in the supermarket like Exito. The unit price is about the same whether you buy one or 6 based on my experience.
Thanks for the advice. Relatively speaking its not much for a month. I will be in MDE 3. 5 weeks, so clock is ticking.That was very good advice by Jjbee62. I am not saying the original poster is lying, but your experience with Seeking is likely not to be as successful. I was on Seeking a couple of times not long ago and I am not going back. I found that even the average looking women are looking for higher payment, as they have all gravitated there because guys pay much more than on other sites. Had a talk with some of them, and they know this is where the rich older guys are. And, as has been said before on this site, paying more is absolutely no guarantee of better service, just more entitlement. Girls that wish to work in this field typically start on Facebook, then go to Cupid and finally, if they have enough interest from guys, go to Seeking and stay there. Guys are constantly flying them to Cancun for vacations and sending them money via Wester (what they call WU). Hence, if you don't come off as a wealthy guy when you chat, and on your profile, willing to spend, you are not likely to get a lot of interest from the girls there.
I found Seeking and Facebook to be similar in the number flakes after connecting, as well as the time investment (significant for both), only more expensive and poorer service with Seeking. Up to you, 520 K pesos can get you laid at least twice, the price of a monthly subscription on Seeking. Also, whatever you do, don't fly anyone you haven't spent time with to be with you. I have, and it was a mistake on each occasion. Spending 24 hours with someone is difficult, strong chemistry is needed, even in this hobby. Not to mention they may not even show up and you already spent on the airline ticket.
I 100% agree that chatting, video calls, and going on a date to talk before having sex are safer ways of doing things especially if money is not discussed upfront. I have a friend who does this with nonpros he meets on Tinder (if there is a way to do Tinder that is the way). I don't use Seeking but it's the approach I'm increasingly taking with nonpros I meet on Facebook. It also gives you a chance to break things off in a nice way if they are annoying, acting oddly or if they are uglier than in the photos. I prefer to avoid sex with women I'm not attracted to whether I'm paying or its free. I also like to talk with and learn from lots of different people and a meal is cheap in Medellin so I never feel like these encounters are a waste of time. Of course, I'd pick the venue to have the date at and pick a place I felt safe in like a mall or a restaurant I've been to before.
I'm not sure why the idea of taking a woman on a date or just to grab lunch or drink without talking about price is dangerous lmao. We're talking about a normal girl w a job, a student, where many never fucked for money before. Also w exchange of messages how tf will she accuse of owing her anything? Remember the site is a dating site, not a puta site like mileroticos.
What I tell them is simple, let's meet for a drink, get to know each other a bit and see if we have chemistry, then we can discuss an arrangement that works for both of us. I do the same shit in the US on the site, most use it the same way. Even some hardcore pros agrees w this and I'm usually more impressed when a hardcore pro waste 3-4 hrs w me in a bar LOL, then go bang her for 300 k, and the 3-4 hrs is free time LOL. It's not so complicated. If you can do it w pros, you can do it w normal chics.
NapataJohn
11-13-22, 00:18
Thanks for that solid take. I'm going to register and pay for a month prior to my Medellin trip. Do you find a lot of flaky meetups or catfishes? Can you search by country / city?Yes you can filter by city and country.
Plenty of catfish and scammers but many diamonds but needs some work and patience.
Steve 9696
11-13-22, 00:28
You want to know something funny! After I discovered SA and being in this hobby, at first I hesitated sharing intel w a bunch of horny and thirsty dudes on sites like this one so they don't go ruin it, but then I realize few others were on it and discussed it, yet sooooo many don't believe the reports and stay away from it. Meaning it's not for everyone, which is good.
Part of it is because it's not cheap, and also most guys prefer point and click environment and are lazy to actually take a girl on a date, or have small talk, etc. So now I don't mind sharing bc I know the losers will stay away. But if you're the guy who want to travel and want to diversity your time between casas / hardcore putas, and also go on actual dates with beautiful ladies, then it's for you.
So to answer your question, yes some will flake obviously but it's rare tbh. Remember majority of these ladies aren't considered "putas" or "working girls". Clearly lots of hardcore pros are on there, some not even pretending. Prob lke 10-20%. So most are normal chicas, low mileage LOL. For the guys who think it's dangerous to not set a price upfront, this I agree when it comes to most actual putas and pros, and the problem ones won't meet you anyway without a price.
There are clearly two different types of mongers, no offense of course: The 1st type failed in women, barely had any real dates or romance in his life, never married likely, so the concept of dating and being romantic is super foreign to him and mongering is by no choice. So this ain't for you. The 2nd type is the guy with a higher sex drive, marriage or real GF isn't enough, or got divorced, tired of entitled and feminazis / us cultured women, and now just want to be free, mongering by choice and for fun. This then maybe for you LOL.
Referring to another comment I read. I'm not sure why the idea of taking a woman on a date or just to grab lunch or drink without talking about price is dangerous lmao. We're talking about a normal girl w a job, a student, where many never fucked for money before. Also w exchange of messages how tf will she accuse of owing her anything? Remember the site is a dating site, not a puta site like mileroticos.
What I tell them is simple, let's meet for a drink, get to know each other a bit and see if we have chemistry, then we can discuss an arrangement that works for both of us. I do the same shit in the US on the site, most use it the same way. Even some hardcore pros agrees w this and I'm usually more impressed when a hardcore pro waste 3-4 hrs w me in a bar LOL, then go bang her for 300 k, and the 3-4 hrs is free time LOL. It's not so complicated. If you can do it w pros, you can do it w normal chics.
I would say to activate the paid membership 1-2 weeks before you land, it does require a few days of convo to find out which one you vibe with. Exchange whatsapp and only discuss pricing after you're in COL. Remember the site is US regulated and any biz discussion and pricing will be deemed illegal. Some profiles are fake, so due diligence like everything else, don't send money even if in Colombia, you could be sending to a john w a dick longer than yours. Other than that have fun!I don't know Madtraveller from Adam but he got this right. If you want a real GFE. And I mean more than DFK and BBBJ — the real GFE, then Seeking rules. I did not use it in Medellin because I explored the face books scene. But I've seen (fucked) over forty girls on Seeking in US, London, Spain, and Buenos Aires (great SA girls there by the way). And now I have a girl I can see with guaranteed chemistry and likely bareback in 5 or so cities around the world. And my home girl that I found on SA has moved to full mistress status (pay her rent but everything else is just BFGF). High recommend.
See the dedicated thread under General / Dating Agencies / Seeking.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements
Most guys here have the curiosity but self identify as "Mongers" think of this as a "hobby" and are too cheap to have any meaningful relationships. STILL there are some that use it, try it and it can be life changing. Treat them with resect, do not expect them to want to hear about $ till they know who you are. Do not let them contact you. You contact them.This is not only about being cheap. It is their "pussy is pussy" mentality. They have no clue what real GFE is, and don't even want to try, because they are too lazy, insecure, etc. Most of the reports that I see here are so boring and bland. Went to casa X, paid X mil cop, shot 1 load, got out. Meh. Read Steve's reports in the Seeking thread just to compare, and see for yourself what a real girlfriend experience is.
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/ysl04e/brother_went_missing_in_medellin_police_wont_look/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
The victims brother claimed his brother met a tinder girl on 70 in laureles. He never returned that night and his friends grew worried and contacted his family in the states. It was soon learned that his accounts were emptied and a mysterious 500 usd PayPal transferred was made after his disappearance. He was most likely drugged and it was confirmed today that he was murdered with his body having been recovered. Rip to another lost soul.
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/ysl04e/brother_went_missing_in_medellin_police_wont_look/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
The victims brother claimed his brother met a tinder girl on 70 in laureles. He never returned that night and his friends grew worried and contacted his family in the states. It was soon learned that his accounts were emptied and a mysterious 500 usd PayPal transferred was made after his disappearance. He was most likely drugged and it was confirmed today that he was murdered with his body having been recovered. Rip to another lost soul.
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/ytfvff/rip_paul_let_us_learn_from_your_tragedy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
The Secret Service incident is a very good cautionary tale. The advantages of settling negotiations before the fact far outweigh the disadvantages (e. G. It takes the romance out of it or it kills the mood). In the end these are business transactions.Sry, I disagree. Why? Bcos price is only one of many things that can go wrong. You can arrange a price and still have a big issue over smthg else. Many of the potential issues are just stuff that you have no control over. So yeah, you can perhaps narrow the scope for an issue on price, but one of many other issues can occur and cause a similar problem. Personally, I would not lose sleep on; price. If she is going to be a bltch, she is going to be a bilch regardless.
Mr Enternational
11-13-22, 03:02
This is not only about being cheap. It is their "pussy is pussy" mentality. Read Steve's reports in the Seeking thread just to compare, and see for yourself what a real girlfriend experience is.Maybe people are not getting it because they are only looking to get laid, not pay anybody's rent. I do not know about the rest of ISG, but I can get a REAL GF without paying her rent. Nothing amazing about someone treating you well when you are paying their bills. Stop paying the shit then come back and say how great the GFE is.
Why do you guys continue to act like chicks are not on seeking for money? On the website itself, it asks guys are you generous and asks women are you decent looking. Something tells me the website would not work out too well by putting the generous under the women and the attractive under the guys. Everybody is not looking to pay to have their ego stroked. Some guys just want to nut in a broad's face right quick.
And my home girl that I found on SA has moved to full mistress status (pay her rent but everything else is just BFGF)..
Mr Enternational
11-13-22, 03:07
The Secret Service incident is a very good cautionary tale. The advantages of settling negotiations before the fact far outweigh the disadvantages (e. G. It takes the romance out of it or it kills the mood). In the end these are business transactions.Except that means shit because the girl can always say later that she wants more or it is supposed to be this much. The same way they can promise you the world to get you to the room and not deliver, they can not honor the agreed upon price at the end.
YahooDiSingh
11-13-22, 03:15
You want to know something funny! After I discovered SA and being in this hobby, at first I hesitated sharing intel w a bunch of horny and thirsty dudes on sites like this one so they don't go ruin it, but then I realize few others were on it and discussed it, yet sooooo many don't believe the reports and stay away from it. Meaning it's not for everyone, which is good.
Part of it is because it's not cheap, and also most guys prefer point and click environment and are lazy to actually take a girl on a date, or have small talk, etc. So now I don't mind sharing bc I know the losers will stay away. But if you're the guy who want to travel and want to diversity your time between casas / hardcore putas, and also go on actual dates with beautiful ladies, then it's for you.
So to answer your question, yes some will flake obviously but it's rare tbh. Remember majority of these ladies aren't considered "putas" or "working girls". Clearly lots of hardcore pros are on there, some not even pretending. Prob lke 10-20%. So most are normal chicas, low mileage LOL. For the guys who think it's dangerous to not set a price upfront, this I agree when it comes to most actual putas and pros, and the problem ones won't meet you anyway without a price.
There are clearly two different types of mongers, no offense of course: The 1st type failed in women, barely had any real dates or romance in his life, never married likely, so the concept of dating and being romantic is super foreign to him and mongering is by no choice. So this ain't for you. The 2nd type is the guy with a higher sex drive, marriage or real GF isn't enough, or got divorced, tired of entitled and feminazis / us cultured women, and now just want to be free, mongering by choice and for fun. This then maybe for you LOL.Hey bro what's the difference between seeking arrangements and finding GF's on tinder?
I am confused.
PigSavinBoy
11-13-22, 03:35
Remember the site is a dating site, not a puta site
It's a puta dating site.
FlowState985
11-13-22, 05:25
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/ytpal0/update_on_paul_nguyen/
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/ysl04e/brother_went_missing_in_medellin_police_wont_look/
I am sure majority of you exercise with cautions but still watch yourself and each other out there. Kid was young, like 27.
Guys.
Seeing police taking away girls, rappers, etc. Anyone know what's happening?
All information appreciated.An asian-american was found died like 2 days ago, not sure if there's any connection.
This is not only about being cheap. It is their "pussy is pussy" mentality. They have no clue what real GFE is, and don't even want to try, because they are too lazy, insecure, etc. Most of the reports that I see here are so boring and bland. Went to casa X, paid X mil cop, shot 1 load, got out. Meh. Read Steve's reports in the Seeking thread just to compare, and see for yourself what a real girlfriend experience is.I agree but there's more to it, I'm not knocking anybody but there's a lot of people on here that don't see a value in mutual attraction for example if I go on dates in the states with a girl and I'm attracted to her and she's attracted to me when that moment comes she grabs my arm and pulls me in the bedroom she's hot for me and she wants to fuck and she's doing it to please herself you will never get that from a prostitute you will get a fake performance for me I can feel the energy the longer I'm in this game the less I want high mileage papa goes you know the ones that you negotiate with them they come in your apartment they don't smile they come in the bedroom they take their clothes off and they put a condom on you and do a fake BJ for three minutes then they climb on top of you and say give me the milk why are you taking so long they don't kiss they don't want you to give them oral and they're not there to have an orgasm some people don't understand this but there is a massive difference I mean a world of difference when a girl is hot for you it doesn't matter what she does or what her performances it's 100 times better than a Stone cold prostitute looking for milk and money.
Guys.
Seeing police taking away girls, rappers, etc. Anyone know what's happening?
All information appreciated.I hope they took away the the 65 bracelet selling Venezuelan beggars and baby diaper women.
Part of it is because it's not cheap, and also most guys prefer point and click environment and are lazy to actually take a girl on a date, or have small talk, etc. So now I don't mind sharing bc I know the losers will stay away. But if you're the guy who want to travel and want to diversity your time between casas / hardcore putas, and also go on actual dates with beautiful ladies, then it's for you.
There are clearly two different types of mongers, no offense of course: The 1st type failed in women, barely had any real dates or romance in his life, never married likely, so the concept of dating and being romantic is super foreign to him and mongering is by no choice. So this ain't for you. The 2nd type is the guy with a higher sex drive, marriage or real GF isn't enough, or got divorced, tired of entitled and feminazis / us cultured women, and now just want to be free, mongering by choice and for fun. This then maybe for you LOL.
Here's some advice for everyone. Saying "no offense" and then saying something offensive doesn't really cover it.
There are roughly 5 million types of mongers. I've met a lot more than just 2. Everyone has their own history, their own reasons and their own preferences. Throwing everyone into 2 groups makes as much sense as dividing people by the color of their skin, picking 1 color and calling them all losers.
However, if you want, pick a group for me.
My sex drive isn't high. Never was super high. Married 3 times, all 3 divorces were reasonably amicable. Early on I had difficulty initiating conversation with women, but ended up dating often. Women frequently approached me, either directly or through mutual friends. I was always good at romance, still good at it when I feel like making an effort. Once I reached 30, my dating and sex life took off. For about 10 years I averaged meeting and having sex with 15-20 new girls per year, with maybe 1 per year being a prostitute. Many started with dates, many went straight to sex. A few became regulars, whenever I was in their area. 10 years ago I got tired of dating. It seemed pointless. Still wanted sex, decided paying was the simplest route. A year ago I decided to mix dating in with mongering. Settled on 2, 1 is a semi-pro, the other just a regular girl, lower mileage than you're ever likely to find on SA. 4 months ago I dropped the semi-pro and am exclusive with the regular girl.
I'll add that I see no reason to use Seeking, because there are no regular girls to be found there. I'll explain in a moment. Am I in the loser / failed with women group, or the super-stud, better than everyone else group?
Everyone on Seeking is looking for something. The women aren't just looking for a man. They can find a man by opening their door and stepping outside. They're looking for a man who can afford, and is willing, to upgrade their lifestyle. They're not looking for someone to buy them a 12 k dinner before going to fuck. They want more than that. Nothing wrong with that, but that's not a regular girl.
I met a regular girl purely through luck. For several weeks we just had regular conversations. Then one day a chance comment changed the tone of our conversations. We talked for 7 months before we met. We met several times over 2 trips to Medellin before we were ever alone together and that was only 5 minutes. In other words, I put in the time.
Everyone here has their own way of achieving the same goal, getting laid. There's no reason to be insulting towards those who are taking a different path.
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/ytpal0/update_on_paul_nguyen/
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/ysl04e/brother_went_missing_in_medellin_police_wont_look/
I am sure majority of you exercise with cautions but still watch yourself and each other out there. Kid was young, like 27.I'm just curious without an autopsy or any more details how was he killed? Either od scop. Or killed right there in that alleyway (knife / gun).
There is also a pic of the girl he took his last snap chat really chilling.
YahooDiSingh
11-13-22, 10:01
I will treat them w the same respect that you give to guys that don't happen to be attracted to SA.Thank you bro.
I agree with this. We are all mongers. And I don't use Seeking because I get good action on tinder. And I don't even pay for anything except dinner or a good time together. Which is what a man is supposed to do in the first place.
Seeking is for men who want to be sugar daddies. Thats not what I'm into.
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I would say to activate the paid membership 1-2 weeks before you land, it does require a few days of convo to find out which one you vibe with. Exchange whatsapp and only discuss pricing after you're in COL. Remember the site is US regulated and any biz discussion and pricing will be deemed illegal. Some profiles are fake, so due diligence like everything else, don't send money even if in Colombia, you could be sending to a john w a dick longer than yours. Other than that have fun!Solid info! I thank you.
Anthony2023
11-13-22, 13:32
Taking in consideration of the recent tragic events would you still recommend using seeking? I was also thinking of using seeking prior to my first medellin trip next month but now I'm not so sure since I keep hearing about how people keep getting set up with tinder and seeking.
This misunderstanding is my fault. I wrongly assumed it goes without saying that it's equally important to settle on what activities will take place for the agreed price. So now I've said it. I agree other things can go wrong that are beyond our control, but they are of the force majeure variety. Earthquakes, civil unrest, diarrhea. Beyond that we are getting into self-fulfilling prophecy territory. People pick up on that vibe and take advantage of it if we put it out there.
Sry, I disagree. Why? Bcos price is only one of many things that can go wrong. You can arrange a price and still have a big issue over smthg else. Many of the potential issues are just stuff that you have no control over. So yeah, you can perhaps narrow the scope for an issue on price, but one of many other issues can occur and cause a similar problem. Personally, I would not lose sleep on; price. If she is going to be a bltch, she is going to be a bilch regardless.
Solid info! I thank you.If you are going to be in Colombia for 2 weeks, try starting 2-3 weeks before. If it is one weeks, try 3-4 weeks before.
I take them to WhatsApp right away, and I discuss pricing from there while in US. It would be all set once I have landed in the target city. They may ask what are you looking for "que buscas", or "que buscas en la red", you can answer conservatively with "mutually beneficial relationship" to start if you are not sure how to answer.
FYI there is no need to worry, he was not our very own Fresh Prince of Bello.
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/ytpal0/update_on_paul_nguyen/
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/ysl04e/brother_went_missing_in_medellin_police_wont_look/
I am sure majority of you exercise with cautions but still watch yourself and each other out there. Kid was young, like 27.
Anthony Bourdain would be proud.I am a fan! Too bad he was not a monger.
shes hot for me and she wants to fuck and she's doing it to please herself you will never get that from a prostitute.Not my experience at all. I have / had a very natural sexual relationship w plenty of working girls. If I didn't, I wouldn't repeat, and I would have given up on this game a long time ago. All you need to do is be fun, friendly and treat them like real people.
beyond our control, but they are of the force majeure variety. Earthquakes, civil unrest, diarrhea.Haha. That was pretty funny. FM, the bane of my real life. . I would add to that list. Girls that just want to FK guys over. Bad choices. Another good reason to pay street prices.
I agree but there's more to it, I'm not knocking anybody but there's a lot of people on here that don't see a value in mutual attraction for example if I go on dates in the states with a girl and I'm attracted to her and she's attracted to me when that moment comes she grabs my arm and pulls me in the bedroom she's hot for me and she wants to fuck and she's doing it to please herself you will never get that from a prostitute you will get a fake performance for me I can feel the energy the longer I'm in this game the less I want high mileage papa goes you know the ones that you negotiate with them they come in your apartment they don't smile they come in the bedroom they take their clothes off and they put a condom on you and do a fake BJ for three minutes then they climb on top of you and say give me the milk why are you taking so long they don't kiss they don't want you to give them oral and they're not there to have an orgasm some people don't understand this but there is a massive difference I mean a world of difference when a girl is hot for you it doesn't matter what she does or what her performances it's 100 times better than a Stone cold prostitute looking for milk and money.Just like there are girls that we call hardened pros, there are guys on here who as well could be described as hardened pros in the hobby. Prostitutes' main objective is to get as much money as possible with as less effort as possible. And hardened pro guys just want to shoot their load and pay close to nothing.
I agree but there's more to it, I'm not knocking anybody but there's a lot of people on here that don't see a value in mutual attraction for example if I go on dates in the states with a girl and I'm attracted to her and she's attracted to me when that moment comes she grabs my arm and pulls me in the bedroom she's hot for me and she wants to fuck and she's doing it to please herself you will never get that from a prostitute you will get a fake performance for me I can feel the energy the longer I'm in this game the less I want high mileage papa goes you know the ones that you negotiate with them they come in your apartment they don't smile they come in the bedroom they take their clothes off and they put a condom on you and do a fake BJ for three minutes then they climb on top of you and say give me the milk why are you taking so long they don't kiss they don't want you to give them oral and they're not there to have an orgasm some people don't understand this but there is a massive difference I mean a world of difference when a girl is hot for you it doesn't matter what she does or what her performances it's 100 times better than a Stone cold prostitute looking for milk and money.If she was that into you, you wouldn't be paying her.
I am a fan! Too bad he was not a monger.I think Anthony Bourdain may have been a monger actually and just didn't mention it in his show for obvious reasons. I always thought it was strange that he did the episode on Kentucky Fried Buches in zona norte in Tijuana, I mean you literally have to walk right past the SWers to get to the place.
If she was that into you, you wouldn't be paying her.If you knew a girl that owned a bar. . And she was in to you, would you expect free drinks every time you went there?
If you knew a girl that owned a bar. . And she was in to you, would you expect free drinks every time you went there?Yes, she can write those drinks off on her taxes.
My curiosity got the better of me and I went through the first couple of pages of the Seeking Arrangement section here. Yes, I RTFF. LOL. It's the same sort of discussions that go on here in the main forum with a subtle difference (without a distinction). For example, guys are on there debating whether they are willing to fuck fat girls. As one would expect, few are willing, but the subtle difference is they are also debating whether and how the "get to know you" date should be cut short.
Seen through the eyes of a hardened Centro rat who from time to time cheats on the street scene with mileroticos / photoprepago apartment dates, friends with benefits & casa visits, this Seeking Arrangement vs the rest overlooks a key consideration. We are all paying the girls, albeit across a wide range of prices. I fully respect the value of perceived emotional fulfillment from relationships with girls sourced from web sites where they ply their wares and convince customers they are so irresistible they would not disappear within moments of being denied payment. The hair splitting subjective labels like pro, semi pro, 4-5-6-7-10 say more about us than they do about the girls. It's possible to disagree with other people's choices without demeaning them. Unless the disparagement is a coping mechanism for personal dissatisfaction.
Not my experience at all. I have / had a very natural sexual relationship w plenty of working girls. If I didn't, I wouldn't repeat, and I would have given up on this game a long time ago. All you need to do is be fun, friendly and treat them like real people.
If you are aware of the risk it's not very difficult to protect yourself from someone who may try to slip you a mickey. I think you have to be extra careful if you are in unfamiliar territory like a hotel room or an airbnb. It's worth noting that relatively few of these cases involve guys in their own homes. The perpetrators target tourists because they know they will have the advantage of surprise and be able to get away with it more easily. When in doubt, point your phone at a girl and see how she reacts. Any attempt to dodge being photographed is a big bright red flag. You should also refuse any dining or drinking establishment recommendations. Get on the Internet and make a list of places you can bring dates where they won't have confederates posted up. If you are not from an urban area be extra careful because you are less likely to sense the moves these people up to no good make.
Taking in consideration of the recent tragic events would you still recommend using seeking? I was also thinking of using seeking prior to my first medellin trip next month but now I'm not so sure since I keep hearing about how people keep getting set up with tinder and seeking.
I'm not convinced he wasn't. There was chatter his Asia Argento thing was complicated by third parties.
I am a fan! Too bad he was not a monger.
I couldn't have said it better. I tried hard but this is the post to read if what I wrote on the subject is confusing in any way.
Here's some advice for everyone. Saying "no offense" and then saying something offensive doesn't really cover it.
There are roughly 5 million types of mongers. I've met a lot more than just 2. Everyone has their own history, their own reasons and their own preferences. Throwing everyone into 2 groups makes as much sense as dividing people by the color of their skin, picking 1 color and calling them all losers.
However, if you want, pick a group for me.
My sex drive isn't high. Never was super high. Married 3 times, all 3 divorces were reasonably amicable. Early on I had difficulty initiating conversation with women, but ended up dating often. Women frequently approached me, either directly or through mutual friends. I was always good at romance, still good at it when I feel like making an effort. Once I reached 30, my dating and sex life took off. For about 10 years I averaged meeting and having sex with 15-20 new girls per year, with maybe 1 per year being a prostitute. Many started with dates, many went straight to sex. A few became regulars, whenever I was in their area. 10 years ago I got tired of dating. It seemed pointless. Still wanted sex, decided paying was the simplest route. A year ago I decided to mix dating in with mongering. Settled on 2, 1 is a semi-pro, the other just a regular girl, lower mileage than you're ever likely to find on SA. 4 months ago I dropped the semi-pro and am exclusive with the regular girl..
I can clear this up. Seeking Arrangement is a higher cost alternative to Tinder and some users believe Seeking Arrangement is a dating sit of the match.com variety, in spite of the "Arrangement" aspect.
Hey bro what's the difference between seeking arrangements and finding GF's on tinder?
I am confused.
Not my experience at all. I have / had a very natural sexual relationship w plenty of working girls. If I didn't, I wouldn't repeat, and I would have given up on this game a long time ago. All you need to do is be fun, friendly and treat them like real people.Bingo!
It's just as simple as that.
Lots of avenues for meeting girls, lots of guys' opinions on what's the best way.
Does it really matter?
It's all about what TK says above really, regardless of what you pay, from whatever venue you meet.
Yes, she can write those drinks off on her taxes.The correct answer was no.
If you're a carpenter and a girl is fucking you, should she expect you to remodel her kitchen for free? If you're a mechanic do you replace the clutch on her old Volvo for free (if you've ever replaced the clutch on an old Volvo I know your answer)? If she's an accountant do you expect her to fo your taxes for free?
If a woman owns a bar and you show up every night to drink for free, you're not only costing her money, you're interfering with her business.
Mutually appreciated sex with equal attraction is great. Personally I believe that's why many guys go to Colombia. For a reasonable price you can find girls who will have sex with you and enjoy it.
Mr Enternational
11-13-22, 20:54
If you knew a girl that owned a bar. . And she was in to you, would you expect free drinks every time you went there?She has to pay for the drinks. She was born with the pussy.
It happened in Cartagena and a secret service agent met a young attractive girl and they spent the night together and have fun. He was 40 and fit and thought that It was just a normal pickup and one night stand.Yeah. But, no.
The entire stay-behind detail went to Pley Club and they all procured chicas.
Two of these fools inexplicably decided to pay the $60 jailbreak fee on 2 x chicas. They brought them back to the place where they were staying, Hotel Caribe (ONE of those fools either agreed to some retarded USD price thinking it was COP, or agreed to some price with the intention of stiffing the girl. Or the girl said, "This guy is so incredibly dumb, watch me take $800 from him. He's not going to completely burn down the USSS and lose his job- for less money than he made staying behind to close out the visit. I. e. Doing absolutely nothing and getting paid for a few days. That would be retarded."
He called her bluff, and proved that he was not in fact merely dumb, but truly retarded. And the rest is now part of American History.
LoveItHere69
11-13-22, 21:26
Some people don't understand this but there is a massive difference I mean a world of difference when a girl is hot for you it doesn't matter what she does or what her performances it's 100 times better than a Stone cold prostitute looking for milk and money.And just think if she was your GF and loved you it would be 1000 times better. Oh, and better yet if she was your wife and loved you it would be 1,000,000 times better. So why do you guys not get married and have the best sex ever? If you guys have this magical connection you would not be on this site designed for paying girls for money. But here you are.
Stone cold prostitute? That is at such a level of BS that you should be banned for saying such stupidity here. You are talking about the women I love.
If you are going to be in Colombia for 2 weeks, try starting 2-3 weeks before. If it is one weeks, try 3-4 weeks before.
I take them to WhatsApp right away, and I discuss pricing from there while in US. It would be all set once I have landed in the target city. They may ask what are you looking for "que buscas", or "que buscas en la red", you can answer conservatively with "mutually beneficial relationship" to start if you are not sure how to answer.Good info also appreciated.
Good info also appreciated.This may save you some money if you only want to be on for a month. After you sign up the membership, after a couple of weeks, they may send you promotion with discount for the monthly premium membership. They also have promotion for discount around holidays. If you have time, you can wait for the promotion and not in a hurry to sign up. If you are on longer term, you have to be careful about discussing money, especially PPM because you may get banned and lost your paid membership. That is why I gave you an example of what to say in my earlier post
Friday night in Provenza I saw so many street girls I decided I should document it. These two were especially aggressive. They were strolling carrera 34 just south of la 10. I think the one in white shorts had ass pads in her underwear. Be careful out there.
She is a vennie, petite spinner, white with more European look, 19, with one 2 yr old kid or 2 kids. The face is pretty, but weathered like she has something on her mind. By look alone, I would grab her at any place before anyone else in a heartbeat, Gusto, or La Isla. Just keep in mind, she fits my preferred slender body type, short or tall.
She said she works everyday but I have only seen her a couple of times around the glass walkway. She was gone every time when I circled back to find her. That is how it is in El Centro. Today, on my way home, after dark, I saw her standing alone. I got her name and whatsapp so I won't miss her again. I had a date coming to my place shortly but decided to turn around to see what she looked like naked for 40 mil. Haha. It's CBJ and she was OK with Steve 2 position which is basically oral with her lying down. I would never finish or get hard enough this way in this situation. I have achieved my purpose so I terminated the session to go home waiting for my date.
Mr Enternational
11-14-22, 03:00
I can clear this up. Seeking Arrangement is a higher cost alternative to Tinder and some users believe Seeking Arrangement is a dating sit of the match.com variety, in spite of the "Arrangement" aspect.Actually the site dropped the Arrangement part and is now only known as Seeking. I think that means you do not have to pay the chicks anymore.
RiceRocket99
11-14-22, 03:56
I'm back in the Bay Area now, trying my best to be a good inmate in American sexual prison. With good behavior, I'll be out in no time and heading back to MDE to celebrate my release with multiple releases. Going to be fun passing Christmas and new years over there again, barrio block parties here I cum!! Drinking unless guaro, listening to ear blasting navidad music, eating home made sancocho, seeing hot barrio girls on every corner, and doing it all with locals, I wouldn't have it any other way. BTW, I'm not randomly showing up to a barrio uninvited, it's always with chicas extending an invitation to their family party fest and feast. And it's chicas I've known for years, not someone I just met last night.
It sucks the Asian guy just wanted to have some Medellin fun and ended up dead. We all have to be extra careful no matter if we're newbies or experienced vets, especially doing the upcoming holiday season.
Btw, I assume you were talking about me when you said “Fresh Prince of Bello”. I do like the sound of that haha.
FYI there is no need to worry, he was not our very own Fresh Prince of Bello.
The correct answer was no.
If you're a carpenter and a girl is fucking you, should she expect you to remodel her kitchen for free? If you're a mechanic do you replace the clutch on her old Volvo for free (if you've ever replaced the clutch on an old Volvo I know your answer)? If she's an accountant do you expect her to fo your taxes for free?
If a woman owns a bar and you show up every night to drink for free, you're not only costing her money, you're interfering with her business.
Mutually appreciated sex with equal attraction is great. Personally I believe that's why many guys go to Colombia. For a reasonable price you can find girls who will have sex with you and enjoy it.Just say you never had free sex, its easier to say that.
Anthony2023
11-14-22, 05:47
If you are aware of the risk it's not very difficult to protect yourself from someone who may try to slip you a mickey. I think you have to be extra careful if you are in unfamiliar territory like a hotel room or an airbnb. It's worth noting that relatively few of these cases involve guys in their own homes. The perpetrators target tourists because they know they will have the advantage of surprise and be able to get away with it more easily .Since it will be my first trip to Medellin and travelling solo I will definitely have my guard up even tho I am mid 30's Hispanic and muscular. Will not be dressing nice like I usually would anywhere else when I go out. I don't think I could get away with dressing nice like I do when I visit Tijuana, even there I usually noticed people looking at my new shoes, new clothes, airpods, shades etc. I feel that if I do that in Medellin I could potentially make myself a easy target so perhaps it would be wise to just blend in and dress plain. I think even leaving something as little as a apple watch in your room would be a good idea. I can imagine if I wasn't Hispanic and fluent in Spanish travelling alone there would be even more risky. But yeah I'm not taking any chances, definitely will be watching my drinks too.
...They have no clue what real GFE is, and don't even want to try, because they are too lazy, insecure, etc.
...I can assure you that I know what GFE is, and I have experienced real GFE many times in my life.
However, at this stage in my life, I am not interested in a GFE relationship. I just want to bust a nut and have some fun. It is not that complicated.
I think Anthony Bourdain may have been a monger actually and just didn't mention it in his show for obvious reasons. I always thought it was strange that he did the episode on Kentucky Fried Buches in zona norte in Tijuana, I mean you literally have to walk right past the SWers to get to the place.Don't forget the show in Bangkok where he ended up drunk and kissing a ladyboy.
I couldn't have said it better. I tried hard but this is the post to read if what I wrote on the subject is confusing in any way.I feel like a Bartles and James ad. Thank you for your support.
Actually the site dropped the Arrangement part and is now only known as Seeking. I think that means you do not have to pay the chicks anymore.I thought it meant the girls are no longer just looking for guys to buy them flowers.
I'm not convinced he wasn't. There was chatter his Asia Argento thing was complicated by third parties.I was thinking about that story.
Just say you never had free sex, its easier to say that.I've had quite a bit of paid sex, where I was the one being paid. Only once was I paid with cash. Many years ago a local coke dealer gave me coke to get me to fuck her. Didn't much care for her, but $200 worth of coke, plus what we went through made it worth it to spend the night with her.
There were also a lot of women who would pick me up, take me home, feed me and fuck me, from overnight up to 3 days. Never spent a penny. But that's a younger man's game.
However, looking at it 1 way everyone always pays for sex. Time is valuable and you're spending it on pussy. The question is, are you getting your money's worth?
I agree but there's more to it, I'm not knocking anybody but there's a lot of people on here that don't see a value in mutual attraction for example if I go on dates in the states with a girl and I'm attracted to her and she's attracted to me when that moment comes she grabs my arm and pulls me in the bedroom she's hot for me and she wants to fuck and she's doing it to please herself you will never get that from a prostitute you will get a fake performance for me I can feel the energy the longer I'm in this game the less I want high mileage papa goes you know the ones that you negotiate with them they come in your apartment they don't smile they come in the bedroom they take their clothes off and they put a condom on you and do a fake BJ for three minutes then they climb on top of you and say give me the milk why are you taking so long they don't kiss they don't want you to give them oral and they're not there to have an orgasm some people don't understand this but there is a massive difference I mean a world of difference when a girl is hot for you it doesn't matter what she does or what her performances it's 100 times better than a Stone cold prostitute looking for milk and money.Can you tell these are from prostitutes? Just like Seeking, you still need to meet the right girls. Like others have said, treat them normally and make them comfortable around you. There is never a rush to have sex or finish. Sometimes I think it took too long because they are young and want to have fun.
You can see the girl lower her price for me. This girl does not really need money because she has a very wealthy SD so she always dressed very well. I can't write too much because the SD maybe reading. LOL.
There is also no way you can tell these girls are high mileage or not.
There are dramas as well. A girl accused me having another girl because I didn't confirm with her. An hour after appointment, she was mad at me but I was still waiting for her to show. when she thought I had another chick.
Mr Enternational
11-14-22, 07:59
Can you tell these are from prostitutes I can definitely tell. Normal chicks don't keep saying amor and mi vida and cielo like hookers do.
Wayne Roberts
11-14-22, 11:14
Question for the vets.
If you spoke no spanish, you were a complete newbie, and only had one week on the ground in Medellin in January. How would you approach that trip?
Yeah. But, no.
The entire stay-behind detail went to Pley Club and they all procured chicas.
Two of these fools inexplicably decided to pay the $60 jailbreak fee on 2 x chicas. They brought them back to the place where they were staying, Hotel Caribe (ONE of those fools either agreed to some retarded USD price thinking it was COP, or agreed to some price with the intention of stiffing the girl. Or the girl said, "This guy is so incredibly dumb, watch me take $800 from him. He's not going to completely burn down the USSS and lose his job- for less money than he made staying behind to close out the visit. I. e. Doing absolutely nothing and getting paid for a few days. That would be retarded."
He called her bluff, and proved that he was not in fact merely dumb, but truly retarded. And the rest is now part of American History.The secret service guy never gave an interview so we will never know the truth. We only have the girl's story and interviews with the other people involved. When I read that she said she told him that it was 800 US, that was really high to me so I thought she made that part up and did not tell him But was pulling one of those scams but telling the guy after the fact how much she expected and then there would be some negotiations and she would get something lower but still something like $300 US which is also high.
The article said he said I'm not paying you any money in an angry manner and then he tossed her out of the room. But the article also said he gave her $30 which puzzled me a little bit.
Based on this behavior, My guess was that She didn't tell him that she expected $800 but was trying to pull this stunt in the morning thinking that he would pay her to avoid a loud argument in the morning. Instead what happened that morning was a loud shouting match that led to the police being called which is never a good thing especially if you are working for the secret service on a detail to protect the president.
The fact that he was in his 40's and fit I think is a factor. My guess is that he thought he was picking up a girl and they were having fun like a normal date. Anyway I agree that his behavior in the morning to treat her then that manner was a big mistake and I'm not sure what he was thinking especially under those circumstances when he was working. It was interesting that the other secret service guys were trying to calm the situation and trying to resolve the matter by collecting money among the guys and giving her 250 US.
And in the end she was content with 250 and left but only after to please arrived.
The whole point of me retelling that story was that it was a cautionary tale that you should have an understanding with a girl as to whether she expects to get paid and if so, how much. At least for me, I don't want a situation where after the deed is done, and I give the girl what I think is reasonable, the girl tells me that I need to give her more money and we have an impasse and at the very least an awkward situation that needs to be resolved. But like I said when the services have already been rendered and now you are negotiating price, that puts you in an awkward situation.
I'm going to give you analogy that is not very good at all. You go into a restaurant you order a dish that you like and some wine without asking to see the menu. In your mind, they should cost a certain amount and the restaurant should be happy to receive that amount. So after you finish eating the meal, you leave that amount on the table. The waiter says to you Sir it is much more than that and you have to pay. You say I'm not going to pay anymore, but I've given you is reasonable and that is what I usually pay for a meal like that and you should accept it. Well, you have an impasse.
I know that some guys will say well I always do it like that and there's never any problem. That may be true but there may be a problem in the future. But I am not one to tell people what to do, I'm just saying what I have been doing after my first trip when I had a disagreement with a girl over money when we never discussed money and I thought we were just going out on a date. But that was my first trip to Medellin and I still had a lot to learn.
Just Incognito
11-14-22, 13:31
Question for the vets.
If you spoke no spanish, you were a complete newbie, and only had one week on the ground in Medellin in January. How would you approach that trip?Another question asked and answered 1000 times that could easily be figured out with a basic reading through the various Colombia and Medellin forums.
Stay at the Mansion. If you can't figure out what that means after reading through various discussion topics here. Traveling to Medellin is probably not a good idea for you.
I can definitely tell. Normal chicks don't keep saying amor and mi vida and cielo like hookers do.Thanks, Now I remember this has been talked about. I tried to make my question less confrontational so I deleted some words. My original post was "Can you tell these are stone cold prostitutes?
Question for the vets.
If you spoke no spanish, you were a complete newbie, and only had one week on the ground in Medellin in January. How would you approach that trip?Claim a refund on your travel insurance.
I can definitely tell. Normal chicks don't keep saying amor and mi vida and cielo like hookers do.Haha. While that's true for the majority, I don't think its bulletproof. Just as in english, some groups call everyone "love", so they do in spanish. So I don't think its so true of amor.
And just think if she was your GF and loved you it would be 1000 times better.
Stone cold prostitute? That is at such a level of BS that you should be banned for saying such stupidity here. You are talking about the women I love.Hehe, but is t that why you love them?
Haha. While that's true for the majority, I don't think its bulletproof. Just as in english, some groups call everyone "love", so they do in spanish. So I don't think its so true of amor.The female owner of the fried chicken called me amor. Older female vendor also tend to use the word more. Not sure why a prostitute uses it when it indicates she is a prostitute.
Mr Enternational
11-14-22, 17:28
The female owner of the fried chicken called me amor. Older female vendor also tend to use the word more. Not sure why a prostitute uses it when it indicates she is a prostitute.Yes. Even I am from the southern USA and call women sweetheart. The difference is that hookers overuse the word. They tend to use it at the end of damn near every sentence. They will amor you to death. A normal person will be like can I get you anything sweetheart? Then the rest of the conversation they will not use the word again.
But a hooker is like let me get a menu sweetheart. Do you want cheese with that sweetheart? Do you want ice in your drink sweetheart? Any condiments with that sweetheart? Do you want dessert too sweetheart? Thank you for coming sweetheart.
Another question asked and answered 1000 times that could easily be figured out with a basic reading through the various Colombia and Medellin forums.
Stay at the Mansion. If you can't figure out what that means after reading through various discussion topics here. Traveling to Medellin is probably not a good idea for you.I would generally agree with this statement. The Mansion will provide you with girls on site and fellow mongers at the hotel will provide guidance to you. It is the easiest setup for first-timers but eventually you want to move on from the Mansion. It can be a little too easy and convenient and in a hinder your knowledge about mongering in Medellin for future trips.
For my first trip to Medellin, I intended to stay at the mansion but then decided that I wanted to learn things on my own and that is what I did. The upside is that you learn a lot when you first trip, downside is that you will make mistakes and learn from them.
As for speaking Spanish, it helps and it makes things easier. But but keep this in mind. I hear a lot of guys say they don't speak Spanish but that does not mean they can't make a little effort to learn a little Spanish. So just because you don't speak any Spanish now doesn't mean you can't speak a little Spanish in a few weeks. Just learning the basics can be helpful in communications with the locals.
As for myself, I speak some basic Spanish but on each subsequent trip, it gets a little better but I will never be fluent. That does not stop me from having a good time with the chicas.
Friday night in Provenza I saw so many street girls I decided I should document it. These two were especially aggressive. They were strolling carrera 34 just south of la 10. I think the one in white shorts had ass pads in her underwear. Be careful out there.These two don't appear to be "street girls", I guess they wouldn't be out there unless they were getting customers. If they had seen you taking a photo of them you might of gotten your ass kicked as they looked like trouble. Very different now in and around Lleras and the surrounding areas since the onset of the Pandemic, and when Lleras opens back up it will be even more of a circus like atmosphere with all the hustlers, beggars, Indigenous, and sex workers roaming around.
First let me say that I'm no expert and I've only been to Medellin twice on short trips. So for guys who want to criticize me, I am a loser, I overpay, I don't know what I'm doing, I am ruining it for all the other guys, you were doing things the right way I'm doing it the wrong way, etc.
I prefer to get an agreement on price even with girls who are not asking me for money on the chats. The second thing I started to do is to ask how long they will stay. Now I am an older man near 60 so I'm a one shot guy but I like to take my time so I usually ask for 2 hours. If you don't ask for 2 hours, girls may want to leave after you finish and it is less than 1 hour. Even after asking for 2 hours, girls may not stay 2 hours but will stay hour 15 minutes, hour and a half or an hour 45 minutes. That has happened to me on this trip but it is not a big deal for me because the sex part has been completed and the rest is just other stuff. But for guys who really want 2 hours and want to screw for 2 hours with more than one shot, I can see that this can be a big deal if the girl is itching to go after you finish the first time and it has been 1 hour.
The easy resolution for guys who want multiple shots is to clarify your intent with the girl. At least that is my opinion which may be wrong.
I feel the same way about particular sexual acts that you may want. For example let's take anal. If this is something you want, I think you should mention that during the preliminary discussions. That way if this is what you want you can be assured that you are getting it as opposed to asking and being rejected during the meeting. I think the same thing goes for finish in the mouth. If this is what you want, you might want to mention it in the chat to ensure that this is what you're going to get. There may be surcharges for these acts.
Anyway this is just the opinion of one person who does not know anything about Medellin as I'm sure some of you guys will say.
Since it will be my first trip to Medellin and travelling solo I will definitely have my guard up even tho I am mid 30's Hispanic and muscular. Will not be dressing nice like I usually would anywhere else when I go out. I don't think I could get away with dressing nice like I do when I visit Tijuana, even there I usually noticed people looking at my new shoes, new clothes, airpods, shades etc. I feel that if I do that in Medellin I could potentially make myself a easy target so perhaps it would be wise to just blend in and dress plain. I think even leaving something as little as a apple watch in your room would be a good idea. I can imagine if I wasn't Hispanic and fluent in Spanish travelling alone there would be even more risky. But yeah I'm not taking any chances, definitely will be watching my drinks too.Apple watches, airpods, expensive shades and new shoes make excellent gifts for guys who ride around together on motos.
When I step outside in Medellin I have at most 4 things in my pockets, plus my backpack. My backpack contains a bottle of water, a light jacket, baby wipes, face masks, some hard candy, condoms and Viagra. Nothing of value and it's a cheap backpack. In my pockets:
Front left. Phone.
Front right. Money, enough to accomplish my goals.
Back right. Room key card (right front for actual keys), ID (US Passport card), emergency money, just enough to get back to my room.
No wallet, no jewelry, no $6000 DSLR camera, no watch, no credit cards. When I need cash I take a debit card to the ATM, get money and lock it away in my room.
Mechanic88
11-14-22, 20:18
First let me say that I'm no expert and I've only been to Medellin twice on short trips. So for guys who want to criticize me, I am a loser, I overpay, I don't know what I'm doing, I am ruining it for all the other guys, you were doing things the right way I'm doing it the wrong way, etc.
I prefer to get an agreement on price even with girls who are not asking me for money on the chats. The second thing I started to do is to ask how long they will stay. Now I am an older man near 60 so I'm a one shot guy but I like to take my time so I usually ask for 2 hours. If you don't ask for 2 hours, girls may want to leave after you finish and it is less than 1 hour. Even after asking for 2 hours, girls may not stay 2 hours but will stay hour 15 minutes, hour and a half or an hour 45 minutes. That has happened to me on this trip but it is not a big deal for me because the sex part has been completed and the rest is just other stuff. But for guys who really want 2 hours and want to screw for 2 hours with more than one shot, I can see that this can be a big deal if the girl is itching to go after you finish the first time and it has been 1 hour.
The easy resolution for guys who want multiple shots is to clarify your intent with the girl. At least that is my opinion which may be wrong.
I feel the same way about particular sexual acts that you may want. For example let's take anal. If this is something you want, I think you should mention that during the preliminary discussions. That way if this is what you want you can be assured that you are getting it as opposed to asking and being rejected during the meeting. I think the same thing goes for finish in the mouth. If this is what you want, you might want to mention it in the chat to ensure that this is what you're going to get. There may be surcharges for these acts.
Anyway this is just the opinion of one person who does not know anything about Medellin as I'm sure some of you guys will say.You're being way too reasonable LOL.
I can assure you that I know what GFE is, and I have experienced real GFE many times in my life.
However, at this stage in my life, I am not interested in a GFE relationship. I just want to bust a nut and have some fun. It is not that complicated.This might be my favorite post of the day.
If I go inside a man's garage, I can get a pretty good idea about what his mechanical skills are and how skilled he is. I can tell if he's a woodworker, or an auto mechanic. If a stranger tells me he bought a screwdriver, I have no idea what he's planning to screw, or how well he's going to screw it. I don't even know if he's got the right tool for the job.
It's complete bullshit to assume you know everything about anyone. For all anyone knows Centro Rat Surfer500 was fucking Demi Moore before she got the boob job and Angelina Jolie before she got her lips done. JustTK might have been a famous gigolo, who's hiding from Interpol in Colombia. Huacho might run sensitivity training workshops where he sweet talks hot HR chicks into his bed.
Or they might just be regular guys, who have lived regular lives, had regular experiences and at some point decided fucking young Colombianas for money was better than listening to some middle age woman complain her way through menopause.
Which ones they're fucking, how they're fucking and how much they're spending is nobody's business. How they were fucking 20 or 30 years ago is nobody's business.
I've had a lot of girlfriends and the GFE was different with each. One shocked me by not stopping the blowjob when I got stopped at a stoplight with about 20 people standing on the corner. One wouldn't even consider giving road head. I've had GFE that was also PSE and PSE that definitely wasn't GFE.
Each of us is familiar with our own experiences. Nothing more. Don't assume you know what stranger's are doing, or were doing when you were still wearing diapers.
I can definitely tell. Normal chicks don't keep saying amor and mi vida and cielo like hookers do.I believe the amor, vida and cielo stuff depends on how you talk to them. If you don't throw in the sweet talk, or respond to it, they don't use it. Even my old roommate, a regular girl and webcam model always refers to me as "my Jay. ".
However, a girl sending several messages, voice and or video calls without response is definitely a full-time working girl.
Yes. Even I am from the southern USA and call women sweetheart. The difference is that hookers overuse the word. They tend to use it at the end of damn near every sentence. They will amor you to death. A normal person will be like can I get you anything sweetheart? Then the rest of the conversation they will not use the word again.
But a hooker is like let me get a menu sweetheart. Do you want cheese with that sweetheart? Do you want ice in your drink sweetheart? Any condiments with that sweetheart? Do you want dessert too sweetheart? Thank you for coming sweetheart.So all Alabama waitresses are hookers? Whenever I've been in the deep south I hear "honey" more than a beekeeper.
In Medellin, if they're using "amor" they're either a regular girl, or a higher class of prostitute. If they're calling you "mor", get your cash out.
Question for the vets.
If you spoke no spanish, you were a complete newbie, and only had one week on the ground in Medellin in January. How would you approach that trip?1. Start learning Spanish. An hour a day in 10-15 minute sessions with a language app.
2. Stay at the Mansion. Search Google for Hotel M Medellin and you'll find the website.
3. Bring your own condoms.
First let me say that I'm no expert and I've only been to Medellin twice on short trips. So for guys who want to criticize me, I am a loser, I overpay, I don't know what I'm doing, I am ruining it for all the other guys, you were doing things the right way I'm doing it the wrong way, etc.
I prefer to get an agreement on price even with girls who are not asking me for money on the chats. The second thing I started to do is to ask how long they will stay. Now I am an older man near 60 so I'm a one shot guy but I like to take my time so I usually ask for 2 hours. If you don't ask for 2 hours, girls may want to leave after you finish and it is less than 1 hour. Even after asking for 2 hours, girls may not stay 2 hours but will stay hour 15 minutes, hour and a half or an hour 45 minutes. That has happened to me on this trip but it is not a big deal for me because the sex part has been completed and the rest is just other stuff. But for guys who really want 2 hours and want to screw for 2 hours with more than one shot, I can see that this can be a big deal if the girl is itching to go after you finish the first time and it has been 1 hour.
The easy resolution for guys who want multiple shots is to clarify your intent with the girl. At least that is my opinion which may be wrong.
I feel the same way about particular sexual acts that you may want. For example let's take anal. If this is something you want, I think you should mention that during the preliminary discussions. That way if this is what you want you can be assured that you are getting it as opposed to asking and being rejected during the meeting. I think the same thing goes for finish in the mouth. If this is what you want, you might want to mention it in the chat to ensure that this is what you're going to get. There may be surcharges for these acts.
Anyway this is just the opinion of one person who does not know anything about Medellin as I'm sure some of you guys will say.Almost everything you said is very savy. Anyone who criticizes you should go pound sand. Your point about discussing services you want / need and time frame are very important, especially if you have some preferences that are perhaps non-standard.
Didn't know it was a Colombian holiday today. When I showed up to front door of Energy, it was closed. Their was a guy standing on the stoop and he pointed to the door next to it #49-107. I was confused at that point and thought was this another way into Energy. I rang the bell l was buzzed in. When I got inside I mentioned Energy to the girl it sounded like she said yes. I was then presented with the line up of girls. There was about 12 of them most of them kinda ugly definitely not what I expected. I picked the best one them. It was 150 k for an hour. The whole session was good. great BBBJ CIM and when it was over I was getting ready to leave and she gave me a 10 min back massage. A great session all the way through for 150 k. When I showed the girl the energy web site she didn"t recognize it. I didn't know there was another casa next door to Energy. I'll try energy tomorrow and if the service is anything like what I just received and the girls look as they do on the website, it should be a home run.
Anthony2023
11-14-22, 23:56
Claim a refund on your travel insurance.Lmao. My first trip will be in Jan. For a week too, maybe I could help him out so he doesn't cancel LOL.
Thanks, Now I remember this has been talked about. I tried to make my question less confrontational so I deleted some words. My original post was "Can you tell these are stone cold prostitutes?There is a big difference between 'amor,' which is overused and means very little, and 'mi amor,' which is not used casually at all!
Yes, I covered this in a post about a week ago. Another member here thought he was in Energy but when he described the location and the prices I knew it was the place you visited. As you discovered, they emphasize very full service sessions for moderate prices. Pretty much anything you can think of is included in their set fee. As you also discovered the girls don't wear numbers and aren't surgically enhanced like next door. The two casas are good combination. If you don't find the girls where you went attractive enough you can go next door. If you go to Energy and you don't feel like the session was satisfying then you can go next door and get all up in a nolds barred session.
Didn't know it was a Colombian holiday today. When I showed up to front door of Energy, it was closed. Their was a guy standing on the stoop and he pointed to the door next to it #49-107. I was confused at that point and thought was this another way into Energy. I rang the bell l was buzzed in. When I got inside I mentioned Energy to the girl it sounded like she said yes. I was then presented with the line up of girls. There was about 12 of them most of them kinda ugly definitely not what I expected. I picked the best one them. It was 150 k for an hour. The whole session was good. great BBBJ CIM and when it was over I was getting ready to leave and she gave me a 10 min back massage. A great session all the way through for 150 k. When I showed the girl the energy web site she didn"t recognize it. I didn't know there was another casa next door to Energy. I'll try energy tomorrow and if the service is anything like what I just received and the girls look as they do on the website, it should be a home run.
I guess I don't understand how else you would do it. This is the second time in recent days I wrongly assumed something goes without saying. I am trying to learn.
First let me say that I'm no expert and I've only been to Medellin twice on short trips. So for guys who want to criticize me, I am a loser, I overpay, I don't know what I'm doing, I am ruining it for all the other guys, you were doing things the right way I'm doing it the wrong way, etc.
I prefer to get an agreement on price even with girls who are not asking me for money on the chats. The second thing I started to do is to ask how long they will stay. Now I am an older man near 60 so I'm a one shot guy but I like to take my time so I usually ask for 2 hours. If you don't ask for 2 hours, girls may want to leave after you finish and it is less than 1 hour. Even after asking for 2 hours, girls may not stay 2 hours but will stay hour 15 minutes, hour and a half or an hour 45 minutes. That has happened to me on this trip but it is not a big deal for me because the sex part has been completed and the rest is just other stuff. But for guys who really want 2 hours and want to screw for 2 hours with more than one shot, I can see that this can be a big deal if the girl is itching to go after you finish the first time and it has been 1 hour.
The easy resolution for guys who want multiple shots is to clarify your intent with the girl. At least that is my opinion which may be wrong.
I feel the same way about particular sexual acts that you may want. For example let's take anal. If this is something you want, I think you should mention that during the preliminary discussions. That way if this is what you want you can be assured that you are getting it as opposed to asking and being rejected during the meeting. I think the same thing goes for finish in the mouth. If this is what you want, you might want to mention it in the chat to ensure that this is what you're going to get. There may be surcharges for these acts.
Anyway this is just the opinion of one person who does not know anything about Medellin as I'm sure some of you guys will say.
They were 100% street girls. They left no doubt about their intentions. I agree with you about the photo op. That is why I shot them in the back.
These two don't appear to be "street girls", I guess they wouldn't be out there unless they were getting customers. If they had seen you taking a photo of them you might of gotten your ass kicked as they looked like trouble. Very different now in and around Lleras and the surrounding areas since the onset of the Pandemic, and when Lleras opens back up it will be even more of a circus like atmosphere with all the hustlers, beggars, Indigenous, and sex workers roaming around.
Now that you remind, I believe the name change came after authorities cracked down on pay for play activities on the site.
Actually the site dropped the Arrangement part and is now only known as Seeking. I think that means you do not have to pay the chicks anymore.
Wayne Roberts
11-15-22, 01:47
Another question asked and answered 1000 times that could easily be figured out with a basic reading through the various Colombia and Medellin forums.
Stay at the Mansion. If you can't figure out what that means after reading through various discussion topics here. Traveling to Medellin is probably not a good idea for you.Thanks to everyone else for the advice.
This feedback right here is what makes it so hard to get info from this forum these days though. The search function is not great at all, so its hard to search through info in particular sections. With the vast majority of info being posted in one thread rather than multiple threads, the amount of info you need to sift through takes an incredibly long time, and often its people who have gone off topic discussing all kinds of things.
RTTF is half the reason why traffic across this site has dropped off over the years, because these threads descend into a quasi chat room for the same regulars who find these sorts of a questions a distraction, while for the newbies who could become regulars don't bother because who has the time to sift through thousands of posts trying to parse information while people argue amongst themselves. Often the questions being asked have not had a direct answer for over a year or more, and still someone will pop up with the usual "RTTF".
"Stay at the Mansion" - We are in a post covid world right now, I don't know what he situation is like on the ground and the general consensus is that things have dropped off there from what I can see. Maybe that's not the case, who knows because heaven forbid you ask. I get the sense that a one week trip for a non spanish speaker is probably not a good idea, and that's fine. I'm in Brazil anyway, was thinking of hopping over for a week with a few friends but maybe its best to just give it a skip.
Question for the vets.
If you spoke no spanish, you were a complete newbie, and only had one week on the ground in Medellin in January. How would you approach that trip?Stay at the Mansion.
Thanks to everyone else for the advice.
I'm in Brazil anyway, was thinking of hopping over for a week with a few friends but maybe its best to just give it a skip.If you are in Brasil and having fun, no real point in Medellíand, really. Starting from the Yew Ess, Colombia has the advantage of being much closer than Brasil but once you get all the way to Brazil? Maybe use Colombia to break up a long return flight if you have the flexibility.
Thanks to everyone else for the advice.
This feedback right here is what makes it so hard to get info from this forum these days though. The search function is not great at all, so its hard to search through info in particular sections. With the vast majority of info being posted in one thread rather than multiple threads, the amount of info you need to sift through takes an incredibly long time, and often its people who have gone off topic discussing all kinds of things.
RTTF is half the reason why traffic across this site has dropped off over the years, because these threads descend into a quasi chat room for the same regulars who find these sorts of a questions a distraction, while for the newbies who could become regulars don't bother because who has the time to sift through thousands of posts trying to parse information while people argue amongst themselves. Often the questions being asked have not had a direct answer for over a year or more, and still someone will pop up with the usual "RTTF".
"Stay at the Mansion" - We are in a post covid world right now, I don't know what he situation is like on the ground and the general consensus is that things have dropped off there from what I can see. Maybe that's not the case, who knows because heaven forbid you ask. I get the sense that a one week trip for a non spanish speaker is probably not a good idea, and that's fine. I'm in Brazil anyway, was thinking of hopping over for a week with a few friends but maybe its best to just give it a skip.Do you really want to know why so many regulars don't like answering questions? Read the post I quoted above.
I've seen and answered just about every question asked. I can't think of a single one that had not been answered in over a year. Often the same question is asked less than a week after it was answered.
You asked for advice for a complete newbie, who knows no Spanish, for a 1 week trip. The best and simplest answer is to stay at the Mansion. When people gave you the best answer you got pissy over it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with those answers. Perhaps you meant to ask a different question.
It might seem offensive when someone says RTFF, but it's the best possible advice. Yes there's a lot of stuff that doesn't directly answer the questions you might have, but mixed in there is a lot of tidbits which are helpful. Not only that, but by reading the forum you will find the information you need to better search for answers.
There's nothing wrong with a non Spanish speaker taking a 1 week trip to Medellin. If you stay at the Mansion you'll almost certainly have a safe and good time. There are other ways to do it, but they require more work on the part of the visitor. However, helping someone decide which other option is best requires more information.
I totally agree with that statement.
Thanks to everyone else for the advice.
This feedback right here is what makes it so hard to get info from this forum these days though. The search function is not great at all, so its hard to search through info in particular sections. With the vast majority of info being posted in one thread rather than multiple threads, the amount of info you need to sift through takes an incredibly long time, and often its people who have gone off topic discussing all kinds of things.
RTTF is half the reason why traffic across this site has dropped off over the years, because these threads descend into a quasi chat room for the same regulars who find these sorts of a questions a distraction, while for the newbies who could become regulars don't bother because who has the time to sift through thousands of posts trying to parse information while people argue amongst themselves. Often the questions being asked have not had a direct answer for over a year or more, and still someone will pop up with the usual "RTTF".
"Stay at the Mansion" - We are in a post covid world right now, I don't know what he situation is like on the ground and the general consensus is that things have dropped off there from what I can see. Maybe that's not the case, who knows because heaven forbid you ask. I get the sense that a one week trip for a non spanish speaker is probably not a good idea, and that's fine. I'm in Brazil anyway, was thinking of hopping over for a week with a few friends but maybe its best to just give it a skip.
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This feedback right here is what makes it so hard to get info from this forum these days though.
... .Have you read Reports of Distintion?
YahooDiSingh
11-15-22, 07:16
I believe he's talking about Loutron. I'm not really sure about 10's and 20's girls. I'm hoping he's not talking about ages.HAHAHA.
No I'm talking about ten's of girls around like each time. 10 girls come. You pick one. Then another 10 come you pick another etc.
But I have been searching for this mansion setup but I can't find it, do you know what I'm talking about?
Have you read Reports of Distintion?Its true that the forum could implement different threads for different purposes. I know there are some threads already for this purpose, but the forum threads could be improved / better structured.
For example -.
Newbie advice.
Chica friendly accommodation.
The Mansion (and any other popular discussion topics).
Crime.
Girl ratings (for those that imagine they are at all useful).
Whatever else
ATM, many subjects are just bundled in to one thread so it is quite difficult to find stuff in such a jumble of info, especially since the Search function operates like smthg out of the 1980's.
There is a big difference between 'amor,' which is overused and means very little, and 'mi amor,' which is not used casually at all!Thanks, was not aware the subtle difference.
DonMedellin
11-15-22, 14:33
How many of you have been drugged? I guess it's not too uncommon on this board. If you are reading this, you are lucky. Not sure if I can share a reddit link here, but go to the medellin reddit page and read the post about Paul Nguyen and the comment section. She and her gang kidnapped a guy last month, and just days ago, she was trying to drug another guy. She belongs to jail. And her accomplices.
I guess I don't understand how else you would do it. This is the second time in recent days I wrongly assumed something goes without saying. I am trying to learn.I only negotiate the minimum I need to be able to get off, BBBJ, kissing. FB girls are not like girls in Gusto or on the street that almost always quote by hours. I like the ones that just come for a cita / rato. Some will say un polvo which does not limit time either. So it is meaningless to negotiate time for one shot with FB girls if they don't want to stick around.
My observation is Paisa girls love music, dancing, maybe singing, and weeds. I have posted several WhatsApp conversations and you will see what many are like. I think many girls will pretend to be what you like but I don't like that. I try to let them be themselves and don't judge. They are less likely to be bored and probably will stay longer if you have an environment they want to stay in. There is a reason they like music from Bad Bunny. Try figure that out.
You will know if you can get other activities for free when you repeat or in a better position to get it at a cost. This does not work if you don't or can't repeat.
The main thing probably is picking the right girl. You can read posts from Lucky Nuts to find his suggestion.
This girl just turned 20. I gave her a nickname 2 d because she looks better and different in person (3 d) than in photos (2 d). I never negotiated time with her. One thing that is both annoying and nice is she kept changing music like most girls do. At one point, I was wondering if the moaning was coming from the music or from her mouth. That is the good part. Hehe. Last night, she gave me oral multiple times, sometimes licking it like lollipop, sometimes used it as microphone to sing, and sometime doing the camel slide thing. She finished me in cowgirl, leaning back holding both of my hands. And continue to dance with my dick inside her for a good 5 to 10 minutes until I could not take it. That felt good. LOL. She stayed naked and told me to lie on the bed to relax. She continue to sing and dance naked until the car came. She didn't have time to shower and asked for wet wipe to quickly cleaned and left because the car is already here. This is a girl that I used to think has some kind of gem phobia because she carries a toothbrush with her to brush her teeth before kissing.
I leaned everything I said above from this thread. People who know me will tell you if I can do it you can do it.
How many of you have been drugged? I guess it's not too uncommon on this board. If you are reading this, you are lucky. Not sure if I can share a reddit link here, but go to the medellin reddit page and read the post about Paul Nguyen and the comment section. She and her gang kidnapped a guy last month, and just days ago, she was trying to drug another guy. She belongs to jail. And her accomplices.Its been all over facebook too, shits sad but I hope its a reminder you need to move smart in Medellin.
It happens. I think it's less likely to happen to anyone who is on the lookout for it. The recurring theme among survivors and guys who avoided close calls is they see the red flags in retrospect.
How many of you have been drugged? I guess it's not too uncommon on this board. If you are reading this, you are lucky. Not sure if I can share a reddit link here, but go to the medellin reddit page and read the post about Paul Nguyen and the comment section. She and her gang kidnapped a guy last month, and just days ago, she was trying to drug another guy. She belongs to jail. And her accomplices.
How many of you have been drugged? I guess it's not too uncommon on this board. If you are reading this, you are lucky. Not sure if I can share a reddit link here, but go to the medellin reddit page and read the post about Paul Nguyen and the comment section. She and her gang kidnapped a guy last month, and just days ago, she was trying to drug another guy. She belongs to jail. And her accomplices.I was drugged around the same day as Paul. Out for 40 hours (Monday 10 pm to Wed 5 pm). Second date with a non pro (I thought) girl from Bumble and mistakenly invited her to my apartment. Went down within 15 secs. She then calls an accomplice and cleared my place out. Many of you know me in person and I am a fairly seasoned Medellin guy. No newbie.
I will share the story when back stateside, but be very careful out there gentlemen. I was lucky to survive and only have replaceable things stolen.
I was drugged around the same day as Paul. Out for 40 hours (Monday 10 pm to Wed 5 pm). Second date with a non pro (I thought) girl from Bumble and mistakenly invited her to my apartment. Went down within 15 secs. She then calls an accomplice and cleared my place out. Many of you know me in person and I am a fairly seasoned Medellin guy. No newbie.
I will share the story when back stateside, but be very careful out there gentlemen. I was lucky to survive and only have replaceable things stolen.Yeah I'm done with tinder / bumble I'm never going to use those apps again, too much risk. Interested in hearing the full story, glad you weren't killed like Paul.
Thanks to everyone else for the advice.
This feedback right here is what makes it so hard to get info from this forum these days though. The search function is not great at all, so its hard to search through info in particular sections. With the vast majority of info being posted in one thread rather than multiple threads, the amount of info you need to sift through takes an incredibly long time, and often its people who have gone off topic discussing all kinds of things.
RTTF is half the reason why traffic across this site has dropped off over the years, because these threads descend into a quasi chat room for the same regulars who find these sorts of a questions a distraction, while for the newbies who could become regulars don't bother because who has the time to sift through thousands of posts trying to parse information while people argue amongst themselves. Often the questions being asked have not had a direct answer for over a year or more, and still someone will pop up with the usual "RTTF".
"Stay at the Mansion" - We are in a post covid world right now, I don't know what he situation is like on the ground and the general consensus is that things have dropped off there from what I can see. Maybe that's not the case, who knows because heaven forbid you ask. I get the sense that a one week trip for a non spanish speaker is probably not a good idea, and that's fine. I'm in Brazil anyway, was thinking of hopping over for a week with a few friends but maybe its best to just give it a skip.The RTFF comments come from a couple of common things.
First, a question or questions to which there is no real answer. Sometimes they are vague questions, matters of opinion only, or just very general. For someone to answer they first have to guess what you really want to know, or to write a book as an answer to cover all the possibilities. These sorts of requests are probably best met with silence, but really, reading a wide variety of posts is very helpful in getting a general feel for some things in order to ask a useful question. So sometimes it gets the dreaded RTFF response.
Second, a question that has been answered repeatedly and often recently. Regular posters get tired of answering the same question every week. Again, silence is a good response, or the RTFF as an expression of frustration.
Third, the search function is just fine. Same as all other similar forums. Learn how to use it.
I will certainly help people and contribute. But I have no desire to add numbers to this board or any other. I use it to find useful information by generally reading everything that is posted on areas I am interested in. And this takes very little time daily. When I first joined I probably read several hundred or a thousand or so posts going back a year or two in parts of the forum I was interested in. Not everyone will do that, I realize. But do a little reading and searching.
HAHAHA.
No I'm talking about ten's of girls around like each time. 10 girls come. You pick one. Then another 10 come you pick another etc.
But I have been searching for this mansion setup but I can't find it, do you know what I'm talking about?You're talking about Loutron. It's a brothel that is in a mansion. You can search this thread for Loutron for more information.
How many of you have been drugged? I guess it's not too uncommon on this board. If you are reading this, you are lucky. Not sure if I can share a reddit link here, but go to the medellin reddit page and read the post about Paul Nguyen and the comment section. She and her gang kidnapped a guy last month, and just days ago, she was trying to drug another guy. She belongs to jail. And her accomplices.Can someone please plaster this site with lots of pics of this killer, I hope she gets what she has coming to her! Stay safe guys!
Anthony2023
11-15-22, 22:01
She didn't have time to shower and asked for wet wipe to quickly cleaned and left because the car is already here.This is essential. Every experienced monger should always have wet wipes available for the ladies. Definitely will earn you points in my experience. Also what did you mean there is a reason they like bad bunny? You mean because quieren perreo? What do you mean?
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/yumk3w/do_you_know_this_girl_3000000_cop_reward_she_was/
Apparently she is a Chaturbate webcam girl: karol_bell1.
The grilla look is something those who have been in Colombia know real well. If you have never been, look at the girls who dressed and act like shanks in your city, that would be a start.
Look fellas, the peso lost a tonne of value within a year. Yes it's great for guys with USDs but it's a double edged sword for tourists who also want lady company. If the economy tanks in the richer countries, the western union boyfriends and webcam funds will dry up. Expect more brazen acts. This can be a positive for those who take the precautions as women will be more attainable, but they also may be up to no good and work in groups to rob.
I suggest all newbies if your goal is sex and you don't mind paying, go to the places that are licensed to do that stuff. Even if you decide to meet up with her afterwards, at least there is a trail. I am not sure about phone tracking software etc or if AirPods exist in other sizes. But even by then it could be too late.
I also suggest taking a few selfies with your dates. These grillas are always taking photos and do the grilla pose. Something between a lean back, moving their hips in a direction so their waist long hair can shine, shit like that. You guys have all seen certain poses these girls do. Send the photo to a buddy (íes) and you're safer. I doubt these girls will refuse a selfie together. No selfie, be weary.
Plan be. Tell her you have to go to an ATM. You don't know Spanish well and want her help. Have her turn away when you enter your pin, but at least their is video evidence and a time stamp on her being with you. These grillas are not always the sharpest knives in the drawer. No matter how many precautions they take, even the most expert and experienced ones drop the ball and get caught.
Lastly, if staying at places with shitty security or none, take the selfies! And send them to buddies ASAP.
Be safe!
ILikeButts
11-16-22, 00:00
The search function is not great at all, so its hard to search through info in particular sections. With the vast majority of info being posted in one thread rather than multiple threads, the amount of info you need to sift through takes an incredibly long time, and often its people who have gone off topic discussing all kinds of things.I agree with you that the search function is not great and the "RTFF" response is overused, IMO. One recommendation you might find helpful is to check out the Links to Reports of Distinction thread which you can find in the main Colombia forum - http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?160-Colombia.
It has lots of good info on specific topics. Facebook, casas, centro, etc.
How many of you have been drugged? .In the interessts of balance. No, not apart from by myself, whcih happens maybe once per month.
ILikeButts
11-16-22, 00:17
I was drugged around the same day as Paul. Out for 40 hours (Monday 10 pm to Wed 5 pm). Second date with a non pro (I thought) girl from Bumble and mistakenly invited her to my apartment. Went down within 15 secs. She then calls an accomplice and cleared my place out. Many of you know me in person and I am a fairly seasoned Medellin guy. No newbie.
I will share the story when back stateside, but be very careful out there gentlemen. I was lucky to survive and only have replaceable things stolen.Sorry that happened to you and glad you ended up okay. 40 hours is a long time to be out so she must have given you a massive dose. This stuff scares me way more than the risk of getting mugged.
When I first came on this forum I asked the question of whether you mitigate your risk of drugging in MDE by agreeing to a price up front rather than trying to do vanilla dating (ie, supposed non-pros). I was told I was naive and lacked street smarts for thinking this way. But in the two years since I have heard lots of reports of druggings and not one of them involved a payment, always guys trying to vanilla date and get laid without paying. I stick to my belief. Agree to a price ahead of time and you lower your risk dramatically. Also, stay off tinder and if you want to vanilla date meet girls IRL, not online. Just my two bits.
Anthony2023
11-16-22, 00:18
Yeah I'm not sure if I would recommend taking selfies of these girls. Some of these girls want to be discreet and one should respect their privacy. I wouldn't want some girl I just met to be taking random pictures of me either. Talk about killing the mood. At least wait till she's several drinks in if you are going to try to be slick and do that. I'm going solo for the first time but I'm just going to use my common sense. You should be able to notice if something doesn't feel right. Also pay attention to things like how they are dressed. If a girl shows up to a date all covered up like the pic of the chick Paul was with, that to me would of been a red flag already not to mention she was on her phone. A girl should rarely be even looking at her phone if she's on a date with you. Just have to play it smart and I'm going to try to avoid letting a waiter / waitress bring me a beer or drink. I rather go up to the bar and grab it myself.
Do you have a theory about how you were drugged?
I was drugged around the same day as Paul. Out for 40 hours (Monday 10 pm to Wed 5 pm). Second date with a non pro (I thought) girl from Bumble and mistakenly invited her to my apartment. Went down within 15 secs. She then calls an accomplice and cleared my place out. Many of you know me in person and I am a fairly seasoned Medellin guy. No newbie.
I will share the story when back stateside, but be very careful out there gentlemen. I was lucky to survive and only have replaceable things stolen.
Mr Enternational
11-16-22, 01:06
I have heard lots of reports of druggings and not one of them involved a payment, always guys trying to vanilla date and get laid without paying. I stick to my belief. Agree to a price ahead of time and you lower your risk dramatically. Also, stay off tinder and if you want to vanilla date meet girls IRL, not online. Just my two bits.I do not get it. How do you think your risk is lowered by agreeing on a price? The chick can still agree on a price and drug you. She is not coming to make money being a hooker, she is coming to rob you! Agreeing on a price is only telling her she will get at least that amount after she drugs you.
There is a guy in the Boca Chica thread right now that was stolen from by a chick he agreed a price with. He was shocked that a thief stole his shit. Afterwards he sent her a message asking why would she steal when he was supposed to give her more than what she stole. The answer is simple; because she is a thief. Agreeing to sex with or without money just gives her an in so that she can take whatever she can get her hands on. So agreeing on a price means shit. If you want pretty much guaranteed safety then go to the casas and clubs.
Staying off Tinder we can agree on!
Mr Enternational
11-16-22, 01:10
Yeah I'm not sure if I would recommend taking selfies of these girls. Some of these girls want to be discreet and one should respect their privacy. I wouldn't want some girl I just met to be taking random pictures of me either. Talk about killing the mood. At least wait till she's several drinks in if you are going to try to be slick and do that. Huh? How do you think you are going to find the chick in the first place? You are going to see PICS of her online where guys go to look for hookers! Wait until she is several drinks in? What would that do? You realize these chicks are drugging guys as soon as they start drinking. They are not staying 2 hours to get cozy then deciding to drug and rob.
https://www.reddit.com/r/medellin/comments/yumk3w/do_you_know_this_girl_3000000_cop_reward_she_was/
Apparently she is a Chaturbate webcam girl: karol_bell1.
The grilla look is something those who have been in Colombia know real well. If you have never been, look at the girls who dressed and act like shanks in your city, that would be a start.
Look fellas, the peso lost a tonne of value within a year. Yes it's great for guys with USDs but it's a double edged sword for tourists who also want lady company. If the economy tanks in the richer countries, the western union boyfriends and webcam funds will dry up. Expect more brazen acts. This can be a positive for those who take the precautions as women will be more attainable, but they also may be up to no good and work in groups to rob.
I suggest all newbies if your goal is sex and you don't mind paying, go to the places that are licensed to do that stuff. Even if you decide to meet up with her afterwards, at least there is a trail. I am not sure about phone tracking software etc or if AirPods exist in other sizes. But even by then it could be too late.
I also suggest taking a few selfies with your dates. These grillas are always taking photos and do the grilla pose. Something between a lean back, moving their hips in a direction so their waist long hair can shine, shit like that. You guys have all seen certain poses these girls do. Send the photo to a buddy (es) and you're safer. I doubt these girls will refuse a selfie together. No selfie, be weary.I have been following the Reddit links about Paul from the night he disappeared on 70 and well before his lifeless body was found hours later. I must say I was super impressed how promptly and efficiently all the reddit sleuths went to work looking for the female person of interest. Thankfully Paul snapped an undercover pic of her when they met at the bar. It didn't take long for a few redditirs to run her image through a facial recognition app using AI technology. The search results yielded valuable information about the chica involved in his disappearance. Let's hope she gets picked up soon. Last time I checked there was a 10 k usd reward for her capture. That should entice one of her "friends" to spill the beans on her whereabouts.
Sorry that happened to you and glad you ended up okay. 40 hours is a long time to be out so she must have given you a massive dose. This stuff scares me way more than the risk of getting mugged.
I stick to my belief. Agree to a price ahead of time and you lower your risk dramatically. Also, stay off tinder and if you want to vanilla date meet girls IRL, not online. Just my two bits.Not to diminish the negative experience of others, but this is all anecdotal. I would love to see some stats on REAL risk. I mean surely, you have more chance of being run over on the street. Although that's anecdotal too. I am just concerned not to create a mountain out of a molehill.
BUt one thing I feel quite sure about. Arranging a price beforehand has zero impact. How could it? Sii mi cielo, dame 150.000, esta bien? Why would that be beyond a mala chica?
Do you have a theory about how you were drugged?I know how I was drugged, it was a shot of aguadiente. We'd already had some wine and one smaller shot, I was out on the balcony getting steaks off the grill, I come in and she says let's do another shot. She had pre poured, but I had bought the bottle earlier and she took her's first.
As soon as I took mine I knew something was odd. That noted, there was none of the zombiness or going numb for me. My legs gave out and I went straight to the floor. That shit, at least in the quantity I was given, is no joke. E.
I know how I was drugged. I was out on the balcony getting steaks off the grill, I come in and she says let's do another shot.
My legs gave out and I went straight to the floor..Anyone in your apartment. FB, Seeking, Tinder, whatever. Seems the extra you pay for the convenience and to have a girl come to your place also has added risks. Must be these high end hookers on social media... Its not likely to happen in a 8 k hotel room in Centro. And even if it did, what are they going to steal, a spare condom, an extra sheet of lavatory paper?
Maybe that's good advice in itself. If your worried about this type of activity. Just take a street girl to a local hotel. Saves you money and lower risk.
If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.
Anthony2023
11-16-22, 03:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04
Very good documentary for people who haven't watched it. Good info on how people use this drug and it's effects and what to look out for.
This is good advice. Doormen and security cameras are your friends. My only quibble is it's a good practice to keep track of your drink whether or not you have a doorman. When in doubt or with previously unknown parties, don't consume anything.
If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.
OK, so the reason I asked the question was to help other guys avoid a similar fate. One of the ways I've stayed away from this sort of thing is I have a hard non negotiable rule in my apartment. I never allow any girl into my kitchen or near my food or drinks. Anything that is consumed in my place is prepared and served by me only. I don't remember every having to insist. In my experience it is unusual for local girls, especially local girls you don't know well, to volunteer to prepare or serve anything. I always offer whatever they may want and then I serve it to them. I don't even allow girls to wash dishes or bring used plates to the kitchen. They can't slip you anything by cleaning up but I like to keep it simple by maintaining a strict across the board off limits policy. I'm really sorry you had to go through this and I appreciate you sharing to help other guys avoid it.
I know how I was drugged, it was a shot of aguadiente. We'd already had some wine and one smaller shot, I was out on the balcony getting steaks off the grill, I come in and she says let's do another shot. She had pre poured, but I had bought the bottle earlier and she took her's first.
As soon as I took mine I knew something was odd. That noted, there was none of the zombiness or going numb for me. My legs gave out and I went straight to the floor. That shit, at least in the quantity I was given, is no joke. E.
Yeah I'm not sure if I would recommend taking selfies of these girls. Some of these girls want to be discreet and one should respect their privacy. I wouldn't want some girl I just met to be taking random pictures of me either. Talk about killing the mood. At least wait till she's several drinks in if you are going to try to be slick and do that. I'm going solo for the first time but I'm just going to use my common sense. You should be able to notice if something doesn't feel right. Also pay attention to things like how they are dressed. If a girl shows up to a date all covered up like the pic of the chick Paul was with, that to me would of been a red flag already not to mention she was on her phone. A girl should rarely be even looking at her phone if she's on a date with you. Just have to play it smart and I'm going to try to avoid letting a waiter / waitress bring me a beer or drink. I rather go up to the bar and grab it myself.If you're planning on using common sense, then being several drinks in with a girl should never happen.
Unfortunately, and this is a bigger problem the more you drink, people don't always pay attention when things don't feel right.
Girls spend a lot of time on their phones. Unless you're able to carry on at least a basic conversation in Spanish, she's likely to be on her phone.
Here are some signs that you might be in trouble:
1. The girl wants you to go to her choice of bar. Don't. Pick where you're going to go. If you're not certain about the girl, meet at a public place, like The Beer Store in Parque Lleras. Watch her arrive, see if anyone is following her. Shortly after she arrives move to a different bar.
2. The girl is insistent that you drink. Don't. If you suspect she has put something in your drink, don't drink it and order something else.
3. Once in your room the girl is hesitant to get naked and get busy. If she's stalling, trying to get you to drink or anything else, send her away.
Don't drink to excess. The more you drink the easier it is to drug you, and the greater risk you'll die from being drugged.
Not to diminish the negative experience of others, but this is all anecdotal. I would love to see some stats on REAL risk. I mean surely, you have more chance of being run over on the street. Although that's anecdotal too. I am just concerned not to create a mountain out of a molehill.
BUt one thing I feel quite sure about. Arranging a price beforehand has zero impact. How could it? Sii mi cielo, dame 150.000, esta bien? Why would that be beyond a mala chica?Your risk, based on the way you monger is essentially zero. The guys who monger strictly around Parque Lleras have a higher risk. Those who use Tinder have a higher risk. If they party hard, even more risk.
If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.And if you do have that, keep your eyes on your drink.
I was drugged around the same day as Paul. Out for 40 hours (Monday 10 pm to Wed 5 pm). Second date with a non pro (I thought) girl from Bumble and mistakenly invited her to my apartment. Went down within 15 secs. She then calls an accomplice and cleared my place out. Many of you know me in person and I am a fairly seasoned Medellin guy. No newbie.
I will share the story when back stateside, but be very careful out there gentlemen. I was lucky to survive and only have replaceable things stolen.Do you know what her name is do you have a photo because I have a friend of mine that's active on there he says it's the least dangerous site but apparently not these girls get away with anything I hope you filled out a police report 99.9% of people never do that's why they keep drugging people and never get caught.
Anthony2023
11-16-22, 06:09
From videos I been watching about victims, it's best to avoid any woman who approaches you wherever you may be, especially if she's with a friend. I would even try to avoid having a conversation with anyone who comes up to you. Stick to women only you approach. Same goes for online.
Hey, does any know what the cost of girl in La Isla and Faze dos is now?
DonCarlos1234
11-16-22, 08:43
They were 100% street girls. They left no doubt about their intentions. I agree with you about the photo op. That is why I shot them in the back.Who has an opinion or better some insight or facts regarding "mongering: in Medellin like the people who peruse this list. VS. DIY tourists or guys that use the bachelor party websites (all inclusive type "high end" sex tourists? NOTE the city of Medellin is investing large sums of $ in a major face lift for Lleras and they have corporate backers building hotels like Marquee owned by Casacol. Tourism has more than doubled in the last year, beyond 2019 reported numbers. And still growing. What will the future look like?
ShinyCrazy
11-16-22, 13:30
I'm planning to follow your recommendations.
Given the Paul Nguyen situation, here's the rest of my newbie safety plan:
4. Go to New Life during the day.
5. Get back to the Mansion before dark and partake of girls from the Mansion bar in the evening.
6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.
What about finding photoprepagos girls and getting outcall to the Mansion, if I don't find anything I like at the Mansion bar?
Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion? Do both buildings ID the girls at the door for your protection?
Thanks for your suggestions.
1. Start learning Spanish. An hour a day in 10-15 minute sessions with a language app.
2. Stay at the Mansion. Search Google for Hotel M Medellin and you'll find the website.
3. Bring your own condoms.
6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.
Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion?
I heard that the Mansion reception staff are now putting scop in the welcome drinks.
You could of course just go out for the day w 100.000 in your pocket, pick up a couple of street girls, and take them to a short time hotel. In the worst case scenario, all they could do is steal your taxi fare home. In the best case, you could have a lot of fun for USD 20.
If you're bringing chicas to your apartment, it's best to stay in a place with a reception that takes IDs and also calls you when your guests are leaving. If you don't have this, keep your eyes on your drink.I don't drink with my girls in my hotel room. I prefer to concentrate on the task at hand and alcohol affects my ability to perform. I let the girls drink beer but I just drink from a bottle of water with a cap. I can see that drinking with girls at your place can increase the risk. Something to think about is whether it is really necessary to drink alcohol with the girl when you are back in your place. Maybe it is a young monger's thing but when you are older, you need to be 100% ready to perform.
Husker Dude
11-16-22, 16:02
I'm planning to follow your recommendations.
Given the Paul Nguyen situation, here's the rest of my newbie safety plan:
4. Go to New Life during the day.
5. Get back to the Mansion before dark and partake of girls from the Mansion bar in the evening.
6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.
What about finding photoprepagos girls and getting outcall to the Mansion, if I don't find anything I like at the Mansion bar?
Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion? Do both buildings ID the girls at the door for your protection?
Thanks for your suggestions.Girls coming into the Mansion do have ID's checked & info written down before entering both hotel or bar. They can't enter if they have been banned from the Mansion (which occurs if they cause trouble). If you invite outside girls that are not normally Mansion girls, then you may not be as safe. Also some outside girls refuse to go to the Mansion.
... 1. The girl wants you to go to her choice of bar. Don't. Pick where you're going to go. ....And order you own car, don't take the car the girl ordered. minuto30.com reported that the victim was found in Robledo which is a long way from Poblado or Laureles. It also said the victim is the 26th killed this year in similar circumstance.
I'm planning to follow your recommendations...I think you can try to make friends with other mongers or make connections with girls while you are in Mansion to take advantage of it since it is not cheap to stay there. You maybe able to find like minded mongers to learn about Medellin or go out with.
I don't drink with my girls in my hotel room. I prefer to concentrate on the task at hand and alcohol affects my ability to perform. I let the girls drink beer but I just drink from a bottle of water with a cap. I can see that drinking with girls at your place can increase the risk. Something to think about is whether it is really necessary to drink alcohol with the girl when you are back in your place. Maybe it is a young monger's thing but when you are older, you need to be 100% ready to perform.Absolutely f*ing right. I follow exactly the same procedures including drinking water from a capped bottle. Of course my hotel checks on-line and records all the cedula information. I wouldn't say it is impossible to get scoped in this scenario but it is dramatically safer and I've never heard of anyone getting scoped in this hotel or the San Peter which follows similar procedures.
Another worthwhile alternative for those who are new and very concerned with safety. There is a short term hotel on Calle 33 called Thematic Luxury. Not only do both the male and female need to present identification when checking in (passport will work fellows) but the rooms are electronically locked after you enter. You have to call the front desk to get out and they send someone up to check the minibar before they buzz the door open. Also they speak to the guy before buzzing you out or sending someone up to check the room out. No girl is going to scope you when she can't get out of the room.
Rooms there run from 60-90 mil ($12-18) for 3 hours and the pricier rooms have a nice sized jacuzzi.
How many of you have been drugged? I guess it's not too uncommon on this board. If you are reading this, you are lucky. Not sure if I can share a reddit link here, but go to the medellin reddit page and read the post about Paul Nguyen and the comment section. She and her gang kidnapped a guy last month, and just days ago, she was trying to drug another guy. She belongs to jail. And her accomplices.Never been drugged, thank God.
#3 in my opinion is the best of that good list.
If you're planning on using common sense, then being several drinks in with a girl should never happen.
Unfortunately, and this is a bigger problem the more you drink, people don't always pay attention when things don't feel right.
Girls spend a lot of time on their phones. Unless you're able to carry on at least a basic conversation in Spanish, she's likely to be on her phone..
I'm pretty sure you could stand on la 10 for several days and not see a single person pass by who has been this sort of victim. The odds are against it but it does happen. For argument's sake let's say the 27 documented cases are a subset of 100 or more that includes unreported or unknown cases. It's still a small percentage of the total number of annual visitors. The pattern you see in the reports are inexperienced guys who did not recognize the warning signs. Let's none of us please be one of those guys.
Not to diminish the negative experience of others, but this is all anecdotal. I would love to see some stats on REAL risk. I mean surely, you have more chance of being run over on the street. Although that's anecdotal too. I am just concerned not to create a mountain out of a molehill.
BUt one thing I feel quite sure about. Arranging a price beforehand has zero impact. How could it? Sii mi cielo, dame 150.000, esta bien? Why would that be beyond a mala chica?
Who has an opinion or better some insight or facts regarding "mongering: in Medellin like the people who peruse this list. VS. DIY tourists or guys that use the bachelor party websites (all inclusive type "high end" sex tourists? NOTE the city of Medellin is investing large sums of $ in a major face lift for Lleras and they have corporate backers building hotels like Marquee owned by Casacol. Tourism has more than doubled in the last year, beyond 2019 reported numbers. And still growing. What will the future look like?Well thru my lens, mongering in Medellin was much better prior to the Pandemic, yet the City as you mention is becoming a tourist and digital nomad mecca. Since the Pandemic, hordes of foreign mongers have arrived spoiling things not limited to just price and service as reported here. Albeit the foreign mongers with lots of experience in Medellin, and those that either live here or spend six months a year here, and have Spanish speaking skills won't be affected as much as the other mongers.
ShinyCrazy
11-16-22, 18:21
I plan to definitely connect with the other guys at the Mansion, and of course take advantage of the girls at the Mansion. I haven't seen any recent reports of the number and quality of girls at the Mansion bar. Hoping the pickings aren't so slim that I need to cast a wider net. Regardless of the price of the Mansion, for those of us short time visitors, it is much cheaper than ending up dead in a garbage bag in a ditch. I'll pay more for safety.
I think you can try to make friends with other mongers or make connections with girls while you are in Mansion to take advantage of it since it is not cheap to stay there. You maybe able to find like minded mongers to learn about Medellin or go out with.
ShinyCrazy
11-16-22, 18:30
I heard that the Mansion reception staff are now putting scop in the welcome drinks.
You could of course just go out for the day w 100.000 in your pocket, pick up a couple of street girls, and take them to a short time hotel. In the worst case scenario, all they could do is steal your taxi fare home. In the best case, you could have a lot of fun for USD 20.That is in my plan although I figured that I would try the casas like New Life or Zandalay rather than street meat. One notch more expensive, but one notch safer, I assume. Regardless, I won't be bringing my Rolex and laptop and home stereo and gold bars walking around Centro. I can't imagine traveling in a strange city without the guidance of Google maps, however, so I assume all visitors carry a phone, but I'll try to bring a crappy one. How else do you find your way around and use Uber? Or do you use a paper map like in ancient times? If you don't use Uber, do you use a white taxi and have the casa call for one when you are ready to head back to your hotel? Or just pound pavement?
A couple drinks is fine as long as you watch your drink. Just don't get wasted. You make yourself a much easier target. And even if you're drinking water or Coke, you still need to watch your drink. Just keep in mind these girls aren't your friends. Though the good ones can make you feel like it.
The quality at the Mansion can vary a lot. One week might be great, the next week next to nothing. I've stayed dozens of times, but I always end up using other venues to complement what's available on site.
...When I first came on this forum I asked the question of whether you mitigate your risk of drugging in MDE by agreeing to a price up front rather than trying to do vanilla dating (ie, supposed non-pros). I was told I was naive and lacked street smarts for thinking this way. But in the two years since I have heard lots of reports of druggings and not one of them involved a payment, always guys trying to vanilla date and get laid without paying. I stick to my belief. Agree to a price ahead of time and you lower your risk dramatically. Also, stay off tinder and if you want to vanilla date meet girls IRL, not online. Just my two bits.I somehow agree with you. My wingman was drugged in Cartagena, even though we were sharing an apartment in Laguito. I was tired and went to bed around midnight, leaving the two of them in the living room. My bedroom was not locked, so I was lucky that she did not come to my room. My buddy was fine the next day, in the pm.
I found out later that my wingman bargained hard with his girl, getting her to agree to a TLN for a very cheap price. I suspected there was some revenge motive in her plan.
HappyShiva
11-16-22, 19:47
Never been drugged, thank God.A good friend of mine got drugged in Medellin by a street woman, took his wallet, CC, Cel phone. His life just stopped without CC and celphone and took him forever to recieive new CC from EU. He brought her to the apartment late in the evening, opened beer and boom all of sudden he was knocked out until next afternoon. And slowly slowly he regained and realized that he got robbed and drugged.
I can't imagine traveling in a strange city without the guidance of Google maps, however, so I assume all visitors carry a phone, but I'll try to bring a crappy one. How else do you find your way around and use Uber? Or do you use a paper map like in ancient times? If you don't use Uber, do you use a white taxi and have the casa call for one when you are ready to head back to your hotel? Or just pound pavement?It might all seem a little daunting to start, but its not that bad. When I first started in MDE, I would choose a couple of casas close together (a second one for just in case I didn't fancy anyhting in the first one). So I just got a taxi to the door of the first, and the seond one would only be a couple of blocks away. After you do it a few times, the pieces of the Centro jigsaw slowly fit togther better. The good news is that almost none of the casas are in really dangerous areas, and they are closed during witchhing hour anyway. So you should be fine, even if you get lost and have to follow your Google maps. Taxis are everywhere in MDE. Amd sure if they all went down the same street at the same time, an acorn would drop from a tree in Australia.
I'm planning to follow your recommendations.
Given the Paul Nguyen situation, here's the rest of my newbie safety plan:
4. Go to New Life during the day.
5. Get back to the Mansion before dark and partake of girls from the Mansion bar in the evening.
6. Avoid the bar / party / street girl scene.
What about finding photoprepagos girls and getting outcall to the Mansion, if I don't find anything I like at the Mansion bar?
Are girls likely to drug you and steal from you at the Mansion? Do both buildings ID the girls at the door for your protection?
Thanks for your suggestions.Paul's story being picked up by Newsweek and local channels in LOS Angeles County where he is from. It involved a Tinder date apparently and it is a tragic story. It is just another reminder that guys have to be very careful in Medellin. Medellin is just a little bit more dangerous than other mongering cities in other countries. Before I visited Medellin, I read so many reports about druggings and robberies in Medellin so I was very alert to that fact. What happened to Paul and a fellow board member in the same time period recently is something that newbies should be very careful about.
At the same time, I would say that you don't need to just stick with casas and the Mansion. If you stay in a hotel that checks ID, and you do your due diligence on Facebook, that can work and be safe too. On my two weeks to Medellin, I used Facebook exclusively and so far everything has been fine and I have been very content.
In denial present company not excluded.
Making excuses why not to fuel the addiction by doing this or that, he did this or that wrong so it won't happen to me. LOL.
Staying home is the solution to not being shot drugged or robbed in Colombia. Any takers? Ha ha.
That is in my plan although I figured that I would try the casas like New Life or Zandalay rather than street meat. One notch more expensive, but one notch safer, I assume. Regardless, I won't be bringing my Rolex and laptop and home stereo and gold bars walking around Centro. I can't imagine traveling in a strange city without the guidance of Google maps, however, so I assume all visitors carry a phone, but I'll try to bring a crappy one. How else do you find your way around and use Uber? Or do you use a paper map like in ancient times? If you don't use Uber, do you use a white taxi and have the casa call for one when you are ready to head back to your hotel? Or just pound pavement?This is a good place for this.
Almost everyone carries a phone. Many bring a cheap phone to use. Keep the phone in a front pants pocket. If you need to look at the phone, step into a building or stop and put your back against the wall. Before pulling out your phone look both ways to see if anyone is watching you. Have Google Maps open with your destination marked. That way you only need a few seconds to get your bearings.
The street signs aren't on poles at the corners. They are mounted on the buildings at the corner. Street addresses are a measure of distance, in meters from the lower number cross street. For example, New Life's address is Calle 56 #43-39. It's on Calle 56,39 meters west of Carrera 43. Since it's an odd number it's on the south side. To make it easier, you go through the blue door and up the stairs, through a second security gate.
You'll only find white taxis at the airport. The taxis in Medellin are yellow. When you exit New Life turn left. Walk 2 blocks to Avenida Oriental. You can't miss it, it's the biggest street in the area. Cross Oriental and turn left. Walk 3 blocks (busy street, lots of people) and turn right on Avenida Maracaibo. That will take you to the Metro tracks. Turn left and you'll see Plaza Botero. You can find a taxi there, or walk to the Parque Berrio Metro station.
Is there any place in medellin, preferably el poblado area, grocery store that has American bacon like Oscar Meyer brand? Also American hot dogs, lunch meats, and steaks? Thanks for the help. Sick of Colombian tocineta. To me, not even close to American bacon.
You guys are making me feel older than I am. I don't think I'm the only one on here who has done most of his travel to new places before the advent of GPS. I guess there may be a few people here who never had a paper map in their cars but I'm not going to pretend to one of them.
It might all seem a little daunting to start, but its not that bad. When I first started in MDE, I would choose a couple of casas close together (a second one for just in case I didn't fancy anyhting in the first one). So I just got a taxi to the door of the first, and the seond one would only be a couple of blocks away. After you do it a few times, the pieces of the Centro jigsaw slowly fit togther better. The good news is that almost none of the casas are in really dangerous areas, and they are closed during witchhing hour anyway. So you should be fine, even if you get lost and have to follow your Google maps. Taxis are everywhere in MDE. Amd sure if they all went down the same street at the same time, an acorn would drop from a tree in Australia.
I sympathize with your friend and other victims. This particular case makes me worry about a narrative I see growing on mainstream gringo forums focused on Medellin. The conventional wisdom is becoming the idea that Tinder is the source of the drugging and robbery and if you don't use Tinder you will be OK. Most of us know better than this but people like the 27 year old guy from California aren't as experienced. They could read something like that and get into a bad situation because of it.
A good friend of mine got drugged in Medellin by a street woman, took his wallet, CC, Cel phone. His life just stopped without CC and celphone and took him forever to recieive new CC from EU. He brought her to the apartment late in the evening, opened beer and boom all of sudden he was knocked out until next afternoon. And slowly slowly he regained and realized that he got robbed and drugged.
I somehow agree with you. My wingman was drugged in Cartagena, even though we were sharing an apartment in Laguito. I was tired and went to bed around midnight, leaving the two of them in the living room. My bedroom was not locked, so I was lucky that she did not come to my room. My buddy was fine the next day, in the pm.
I found out later that my wingman bargained hard with his girl, getting her to agree to a TLN for a very cheap price. I suspected there was some revenge motive in her plan.I highly doubt it had any relation to his bargaining. If they see you as an easy and lucrative target, they're going to try.
I’ll add that you’re generally at less risk if you come across as a not rich tourist. Though we’re all rich compared to these chicas.
I'm pretty sure you could stand on la 10 for several days and not see a single person pass by who has been this sort of victim. The odds are against it but it does happen. For argument's sake let's say the 27 documented cases are a subset of 100 or more that includes unreported or unknown cases. It's still a small percentage of the total number of annual visitors. The pattern you see in the reports are inexperienced guys who did not recognize the warning signs. Let's none of us please be one of those guys.The number 27 are the murders. Not the druggings. I personally know 2 or 3 guys that have been drugged in Medellin, and I don't know that many people there in total. So it is pretty common. I read in media there one time that it was one of the leading causes for hospitalization in Colombia, but I don't recall where I saw the article and it was a few years ago. It's not just tourists that get drugged. The material to make the local version is not necessarily pharmaceutical as it can be extracted from leaves from a tree that grows in Colombia. Which makes it doubly dangerous as dosage can be variable even when someone may not be trying to kill you.
The number 27 are the murders. Not the druggings. I personally know 2 or 3 guys that have been drugged in Medellin, and I don't know that many people there in total. So it is pretty common. I read in media there one time that it was one of the leading causes for hospitalization in Colombia, but I don't recall where I saw the article and it was a few years ago. It's not just tourists that get drugged. The material to make the local version is not necessarily pharmaceutical as it can be extracted from leaves from a tree that grows in Colombia. Which makes it doubly dangerous as dosage can be variable even when someone may not be trying to kill you.I knew a guy who was killed in Medellin. I never found out all circumstances and don't know if he was ever drugged.
Yet I say go to MDE. Just exercise common sense precautions.
Full disclosure. I have never been to the Mansion so I can address it objectively. However inexperienced you may be, staying at the Mansion or being robbed and dying a violent death is not a binary choice. If you do decide to stay there and you find yourself underwhelmed by the staffing, the good news is you have the entire city of Medellin within easy reach. There is lots of helpful safety information on this section of the website. At one time there was a Mansion specific section. I wish you a safe and enjoyable visit.
I plan to definitely connect with the other guys at the Mansion, and of course take advantage of the girls at the Mansion. I haven't seen any recent reports of the number and quality of girls at the Mansion bar. Hoping the pickings aren't so slim that I need to cast a wider net. Regardless of the price of the Mansion, for those of us short time visitors, it is much cheaper than ending up dead in a garbage bag in a ditch. I'll pay more for safety.
That is a great point you made about the scoping. If you read the gringo media it's easy to assume it's foreigners only. I'm reading so much about this here and elsewhere on the Internet I'm starting to wonder how I managed to stay away from it over the years.
The number 27 are the murders. Not the druggings. I personally know 2 or 3 guys that have been drugged in Medellin, and I don't know that many people there in total. So it is pretty common. I read in media there one time that it was one of the leading causes for hospitalization in Colombia, but I don't recall where I saw the article and it was a few years ago. It's not just tourists that get drugged. The material to make the local version is not necessarily pharmaceutical as it can be extracted from leaves from a tree that grows in Colombia. Which makes it doubly dangerous as dosage can be variable even when someone may not be trying to kill you.
Is there any place in medellin, preferably el poblado area, grocery store that has American bacon like Oscar Meyer brand? Also American hot dogs, lunch meats, and steaks? Thanks for the help. Sick of Colombian tocineta. To me, not even close to American bacon.I don't know the answer, but I typically search the 'GringoPaisa' forum on Facebook for questions like this. You can join and then use the search button in upper right on group page. I know there are at least two guys that have advertised specialty meats on there in the past 4 months.
Do you know what her name is do you have a photo because I have a friend of mine that's active on there he says it's the least dangerous site but apparently not these girls get away with anything I hope you filled out a police report 99.9% of people never do that's why they keep drugging people and never get caught.Her name and photo was provided on Reddit by a young man with better survival instincts than myself. He spent 3 hours with her around Laureles, but said he isn't much of a drinker. They then went to his hotel where the hotel staff scanned her cedula (she used the real one). The girl got frustrated when she couldn't get the guy to drink and left. He also took a quick pic of her at the bar.
I've been in contact with this guy as well as Paul's family and legal. Yes, I filed a report. This was prior to learning of Paul's death, but I was nearly killed and she took a large number of items from me. Yes, much of this is my fault, but the Medellin Mayor and Police need to take this far more seriously. Imagine if it was Medellin men drugging foreign women? If there were 3 dead then there would international outrage and we have what, 25 men with 2 months left in the year? Crime nearly always spikes in Medellin prior to Christmas as well.
If I can give any advice it's don't use Tinder or Bumble and if a girl is under 25 and not negotiating for the deed than she likely has a different angle. My fault was thinking this girl was simply down to fuck. I'm 43 and in good shape so I still do get some freebies, usually 1-2 a trip, but need to have much more skepticism. Earlier in the night I had a non-pro I really liked ghost me so I was a bit blue-balled and after a few drinks lost my sense of caution.
Her name and photo was provided on Reddit by a young man with better survival instincts than myself. He spent 3 hours with her around Laureles, but said he isn't much of a drinker. They then went to his hotel where the hotel staff scanned her cedula (she used the real one). The girl got frustrated when she couldn't get the guy to drink and left. He also took a quick pic of her at the bar.
I've been in contact with this guy as well as Paul's family and legal. Yes, I filed a report. This was prior to learning of Paul's death, but I was nearly killed and she took a large number of items from me. Yes, much of this is my fault, but the Medellin Mayor and Police need to take this far more seriously. Imagine if it was Medellin men drugging foreign women? If there were 3 dead then there would international outrage and we have what, 25 men with 2 months left in the year? Crime nearly always spikes in Medellin prior to Christmas as well.
If I can give any advice it's don't use Tinder or Bumble and if a girl is under 25 and not negotiating for the deed than she likely has a different angle. My fault was thinking this girl was simply down to fuck. I'm 43 and in good shape so I still do get some freebies, usually 1-2 a trip, but need to have much more skepticism. Earlier in the night I had a non-pro I really liked ghost me so I was a bit blue-balled and after a few drinks lost my sense of caution.Why is nobody plastering her pic all over this site! Stuff like this is when we all need to stand together, pics! Pics, pics instead we're talking about where to get American bacon! Putting her pics on here would be a great big help to all!
I just returned from my 10 day trip to Medellin. I saw 13 girls in 10 days, all from Facebook. To fit in all the girls that I wanted to see, I had to do double duty on some days when is hard for an older gent but possible with a little help from Viagra.
I did not get robbed or drugged. I stayed in a hotel where the identification card was checked and photocopied. I decided on this trip to see if I could get bareback GFE sessions. This is what I experienced when I asked the girls that question. Most said no, some said yes. Some said yes with additional payment. Some said no and then later in the week said yes when I passed on seeing them. All I can tell you is that I brought 15 condoms just in case and when I went home, I had 15 condoms left. There were enough Facebook girls that I had chatted with, that if you just ask enough girls, you will get your fill of bareback girls if that is what you want but you will also get a lot of rejections. Just par for the course.
The mandatory warning for barebacking. It is risky and you may catch a STD or HIV. You should read about the risk before you engage in such risky behavior. As for me, at my advanced age, I have had performance issues when I use a condom (but not all the time). Just one of those things.
Most of the girls were young and attractive, 18-22 years old. Surprising number of girls were 18 years old. The rest were 24-25 years old. Most were short and slim, a few were curvy with large breasts. No one rushed me. Everyone gave me the time to finish. I am an older monger, close to 60 so one shot is more than enough for me. I asked for 2 hours but that did not mean two hours of sex and I did not require that. Everyone said yes to 2 hours but apparently 2 hours does not mean 2 hours to the girls. The girls generally stayed about 1 1/2 to 1 HR 45 minutes. Some stayed 2 hours or more. No one left before I had my fill of sex and it was just the non-sex part that got shortchanged. The agreed upon amount was usually in 200-250 mil, usually plus 50 mil transport but not always.
I was very content with the performances. The only complaint I would have is that the blowjobs tend to be short, about 5 minutes long. There were some exceptions. I have posted about my experiences in Guadalajara where the girls gave long deep blowjobs. It was a little different here. However, when it came to the sex, the girls were all willing to let me go as long as I wanted until I finished. No complaints there.
This was my second trip so I learned a lot from my mistakes during my first trip. Everything was negotiated upfront prior to the meeting and there were no misunderstanding. I only speak basic Spanish and I rely on Google Translate to get my point across along with hand gestures.
Good trip. Plenty of fun. No mishaps. Every girl was good to great in bed and everyone was friendly. There were no major disappointments. The girls all looked like their pictures on Facebook and everyone was the age that they said they were. I looked at their ID cards when they presented it to the hotel. It was surprising to me that girls didn't try to say that they were younger than they were. That is something that happens in other countries.
I look forward to trip number three. Third is the charm, as they say.
I was always very careful in Medellin. I am aware of my surroundings and try to screen my girls carefully based on their Facebook profiles. So far, it has been working out and I will probably stick with Facebook girls on my next trip. No reason to change from a successful formula.
The only issue is that if you are going to insist on barebacking, you will miss out on some very attractive girls who seem very promising but will not go bareback for obvious reasons. I am going to open it up to very attractive girls who at least provide BBBJ next time.
Her name and photo was provided on Reddit by a young man with better survival instincts than myself. He spent 3 hours with her around Laureles, but said he isn't much of a drinker. They then went to his hotel where the hotel staff scanned her cedula (she used the real one). The girl got frustrated when she couldn't get the guy to drink and left. He also took a quick pic of her at the bar.
I've been in contact with this guy as well as Paul's family and legal. Yes, I filed a report. This was prior to learning of Paul's death, but I was nearly killed and she took a large number of items from me. Yes, much of this is my fault, but the Medellin Mayor and Police need to take this far more seriously. Imagine if it was Medellin men drugging foreign women? If there were 3 dead then there would international outrage and we have what, 25 men with 2 months left in the year? Crime nearly always spikes in Medellin prior to Christmas as well.
If I can give any advice it's don't use Tinder or Bumble and if a girl is under 25 and not negotiating for the deed than she likely has a different angle. My fault was thinking this girl was simply down to fuck. I'm 43 and in good shape so I still do get some freebies, usually 1-2 a trip, but need to have much more skepticism. Earlier in the night I had a non-pro I really liked ghost me so I was a bit blue-balled and after a few drinks lost my sense of caution.I would assume you were staying in a building with no reception / security? So that she could let her accomplice into the building and get out with your belonging without any issues. If that's the case, my advice to all would be to stay at hotels or airbnbs with security and cameras. I have been staying at the same Airbnb in Laureles for the last two years, and oftentimes (but not always) was required to personally escort ladies out of the building, I think it is a great practice which should be implemented everywhere. What I still don't get is why she provided her real ID at the hotel, if she was intending to drug and rob the guy. You don't give your ID before you commit a crime, makes no sense. Unless her ID was fake, but since they scanned it, I would assume it was real. I'm not sure if fake ID can be scanned though. She could have just said that she did not have ID on her and bail out. Instead, she proceeded with him to his room, I'm puzzled here.
Mechanic88
11-17-22, 04:48
Why is nobody plastering her pic all over this site! Stuff like this is when we all need to stand together, pics! Pics, pics instead we're talking about where to get American bacon! Putting her pics on here would be a great big help to all!There's a picture of her in this link.
https://nextshark.com/california-man-found-dead-after-tinder-date-in-colombia/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1668639621.
I was drugged around the same day as Paul. Out for 40 hours (Monday 10 pm to Wed 5 pm). Second date with a non pro (I thought) girl from Bumble and mistakenly invited her to my apartment. Went down within 15 secs. She then calls an accomplice and cleared my place out. Many of you know me in person and I am a fairly seasoned Medellin guy. No newbie.
I will share the story when back stateside, but be very careful out there gentlemen. I was lucky to survive and only have replaceable things stolen.Can you clarify also was it in fact something she slipped in your drink. There are wild stories and unconfirmed reports that the scopolamine can come in liquid or powder.
Is there any place in medellin, preferably el poblado area, grocery store that has American bacon like Oscar Meyer brand? Also American hot dogs, lunch meats, and steaks? Thanks for the help. Sick of Colombian tocineta. To me, not even close to American bacon.You can try PriceSmart if you haven't already. Madurando has dry aged rib-eye.
Her name and photo was provided on Reddit by a young man with better survival instincts than myself. He spent 3 hours with her around Laureles, but said he isn't much of a drinker. They then went to his hotel where the hotel staff scanned her cedula (she used the real one). The girl got frustrated when she couldn't get the guy to drink and left. He also took a quick pic of her at the bar.
I've been in contact with this guy as well as Paul's family and legal. Yes, I filed a report. This was prior to learning of Paul's death, but I was nearly killed and she took a large number of items from me. Yes, much of this is my fault, but the Medellin Mayor and Police need to take this far more seriously. Imagine if it was Medellin men drugging foreign women? If there were 3 dead then there would international outrage and we have what, 25 men with 2 months left in the year? Crime nearly always spikes in Medellin prior to Christmas as well.
If I can give any advice it's don't use Tinder or Bumble and if a girl is under 25 and not negotiating for the deed than she likely has a different angle. My fault was thinking this girl was simply down to fuck. I'm 43 and in good shape so I still do get some freebies, usually 1-2 a trip, but need to have much more skepticism. Earlier in the night I had a non-pro I really liked ghost me so I was a bit blue-balled and after a few drinks lost my sense of caution.I want to thank you for posting it and for owning it. You recognized where you could have done better and reported it. That serves as a warning for everyone. Just because you're experienced doesn't make you exempt from these types of things.
BarrioSpinners
11-17-22, 10:54
This is a good place for this.
The street signs aren't on poles at the corners. They are mounted on the buildings at the corner. Street addresses are a measure of distance, in meters from the lower number cross street. For example, New Life's address is Calle 56 #43-39. It's on Calle 56,39 meters west of Carrera 43. Since it's an odd number it's on the south side. To make it easier, you go through the blue door and up the stairs, through a second security gate.
I find very useful Google earth / street views to check the buildings and the address on it, most streets are up to date.
DonCarlos1234
11-17-22, 11:24
Full disclosure. I have never been to the Mansion so I can address it objectively. However inexperienced you may be, staying at the Mansion or being robbed and dying a violent death is not a binary choice. If you do decide to stay there and you find yourself underwhelmed by the staffing, the good news is you have the entire city of Medellin within easy reach. There is lots of helpful safety information on this section of the website. At one time there was a Mansion specific section. I wish you a safe and enjoyable visit.You can not be too careful with strangers on ANY internet site or walking around out on the streets. The risks some of you take for a cheap fuck or wanting to meet multiple women (! Are just stupid. NO it is not what you expect but it is happening anyway. Use your BRAIN. You get all this info here, yet it still happens. You are accidents waiting. I am sorry. It will continue unless you use your brains!
I've heard stories of powder scoping of guys who get it blown into their faces. My impression is it's more often something slipped into a drink. I've never heard of someone having something slipped into their drink in a public place like a restaurant or bar. All this scoping talk recently I'm going to be on the lookout to get a better feel for teams involved in it. Having lived mostly in urban areas my instinct is to move away from squirrely behavior. I think it's worked in my favor so far.
Can you clarify also was it in fact something she slipped in your drink. There are wild stories and unconfirmed reports that the scopolamine can come in liquid or powder.
Mr Enternational
11-17-22, 14:10
Her name and photo was provided on Reddit by a young man with better survival instincts than myself. He spent 3 hours with her around Laureles, but said he isn't much of a drinker. They then went to his hotel where the hotel staff scanned her cedula (she used the real one). The girl got frustrated when she couldn't get the guy to drink and left.Exactly. You guys are making rocket science out of this. It is not that hard to figure. Didn't I say that ALL these stories have in common that the guy was drinking. If you are not drinking, more than likely they will not be able to get you. Meet up with these chicks when you are sober (unlike the guy that drunk a ton before meeting up and they were able to rob him without even drugging him) and do not drink around them!
Mr Enternational
11-17-22, 14:29
my advice to all would be to stay at hotels or airbnbs with security and cameras. You don't give your ID before you commit a crime, makes no sense. These are not the smartest people in the world. They would be working a regular job instead of out drugging and robbing if they were. Plus after you have pulled it off so many times until it is like brushing your teeth, then you get complacent. You know how many of these stories that I have seen on facebook where they have the chick on camera? They do not care about any stinking cameras or IDs or none of that shit. They only care about walking out with your shit.
This is an excellent bit of advice. You can go to a safe place like nearby cafe to whip out your phone and orient yourself and chart a path with visual cues right up to the doorway of the venue.
I find very useful Google earth / street views to check the buildings and the address on it, most streets are up to date.
Exactly. You guys are making rocket science out of this. It is not that hard to figure. Didn't I say that ALL these stories have in common that the guy was drinking. If you are not drinking, more than likely they will not be able to get you. Meet up with these chicks when you are sober (unlike the guy that drunk a ton before meeting up and they were able to rob him without even drugging him) and do not drink around them!I agree. I will say that historically I've invited the Paisas I thought were non-pros over to my place for some dinner drinks on the 2nd or 3rd date. My trips have typically been 8 to 14 days so this was done to accelerate things a bit. The drinks have always been ones that I bought and giving a woman a nice glass of wine and massage works as well as an aphrodisiac here as it does in the US. Was I doing too much for these women? Probably yes, even though a handful developed into great novia / friends with benefits situations. Even this will stop for here on out. No more non-pros unless through Paisa friends. Only offsite and sober as well.
Exactly. You guys are making rocket science out of this. It is not that hard to figure. Didn't I say that ALL these stories have in common that the guy was drinking. If you are not drinking, more than likely they will not be able to get you. Meet up with these chicks when you are sober (unlike the guy that drunk a ton before meeting up and they were able to rob him without even drugging him) and do not drink around them!Is there a scenario where they can drug you without you drinking? I've heard stories through the years of such but they all seem to be too far-fetch in my opinion.
ILikeButts
11-17-22, 15:25
Thanks for the trip report, good stuff. Glad you had a good time. I'm a similar age and we are pretty similar in how we roll. Facebook is my favorite source and also used it exclusively on my last trip. Next trip (in a week) I might try to expand my horizons a bit with some Centro and / or casa activities as well. In the FB proposal message I don't specifically say bareback but mention I want a "girlfriend experience" and I was 9/9 on the last trip, with a few requiring a propina. So for guys like us that is out there and on the menu.
I just returned from my 10 day trip to Medellin. I saw 13 girls in 10 days, all from Facebook. To fit in all the girls that I wanted to see, I had to do double duty on some days when is hard for an older gent but possible with a little help from Viagra.
I did not get robbed or drugged. I stayed in a hotel where the identification card was checked and photocopied. I decided on this trip to see if I could get bareback GFE sessions. This is what I experienced when I asked the girls that question. Most said no, some said yes. Some said yes with additional payment. Some said no and then later in the week said yes when I passed on seeing them. All I can tell you is that I brought 15 condoms just in case and when I went home, I had 15 condoms left. There were enough Facebook girls that I had chatted with, that if you just ask enough girls, you will get your fill of bareback girls if that is what you want but you will also get a lot of rejections. Just par for the course.
The mandatory warning for barebacking. It is risky and you may catch a STD or HIV. You should read about the risk before you engage in such risky behavior. As for me, at my advanced age, I have had performance issues when I use a condom (but not all the time). Just one of those things.
Most of the girls were young and attractive, 18-22 years old. Surprising number of girls were 18 years old. The rest were 24-25 years old. Most were short and slim, a few were curvy with large breasts. No one rushed me. Everyone gave me the time to finish. I am an older monger, close to 60 so one shot is more than enough for me. I asked for 2 hours but that did not mean two hours of sex and I did not require that. Everyone said yes to 2 hours but apparently 2 hours does not mean 2 hours to the girls. The girls generally stayed about 1 1/2 to 1 HR 45 minutes. Some stayed 2 hours or more. No one left before I had my fill of sex and it was just the non-sex part that got shortchanged. The agreed upon amount was usually in 200-250 mil, usually plus 50 mil transport but not always.
I was very content with the performances. The only complaint I would have is that the blowjobs tend to be short, about 5 minutes long. There were some exceptions. I have posted about my experiences in Guadalajara where the girls gave long deep blowjobs. It was a little different here. However, when it came to the sex, the girls were all willing to let me go as long as I wanted until I finished. No complaints there.
This was my second trip so I learned a lot from my mistakes during my first trip. Everything was negotiated upfront prior to the meeting and there were no misunderstanding. I only speak basic Spanish and I rely on Google Translate to get my point across along with hand gestures.
Good trip. Plenty of fun. No mishaps. Every girl was good to great in bed and everyone was friendly. There were no major disappointments. The girls all looked like their pictures on Facebook and everyone was the age that they said they were. I looked at their ID cards when they presented it to the hotel. It was surprising to me that girls didn't try to say that they were younger than they were. That is something that happens in other countries.
I look forward to trip number three. Third is the charm, as they say.
I was always very careful in Medellin. I am aware of my surroundings and try to screen my girls carefully based on their Facebook profiles. So far, it has been working out and I will probably stick with Facebook girls on my next trip. No reason to change from a successful formula.
The only issue is that if you are going to insist on barebacking, you will miss out on some very attractive girls who seem very promising but will not go bareback for obvious reasons. I am going to open it up to very attractive girls who at least provide BBBJ next time.
Can you clarify also was it in fact something she slipped in your drink. There are wild stories and unconfirmed reports that the scopolamine can come in liquid or powder.Yes, it was slipped in a shot / trago of aguadiente.
To be honest, I rarely drink hard liquor anymore, but I had bought it to take to a Paisa friends place later in the week for a small get together. When the girl arrived we had some red wine first. Then she saw the aguadiente and asked if I liked it, which I affirmed. She said she did too (which should have been a sign as most girls don't! I opened it and poured small shots first as she only looked like 110 lbs.
I then put some steaks on the balcony grill and continued chatting with her through the doorway (I speak conversational spanish). I wrap up steaks and go back inside where she has larger pre poured shots suggests we do another one. I say ok if you do yours first. She does, gives me a wink, and says your turn. I do mine next and as I did it I could see it was cloudy, but it was too late. Hit me like a ton of bricks and 'big tree, fell hard'.
Other reports talk about a 'Zombie' state. I didn't experience that, but it may have just been due to my dosage. My experience was more akin to what people say when they've been date raped.
What I still don't get is why she provided her real ID at the hotel, if she was intending to drug and rob the guy. You don't give your ID before you commit a crime, makes no sense. Unless her ID was fake, but since they scanned it, I would assume it was real. I'm not sure if fake ID can be scanned though. She could have just said that she did not have ID on her and bail out. Instead, she proceeded with him to his room, I'm puzzled here.There is a lot of reasons a person might use her real ID. Maybe she knew that they check the ID thoroughly. She proceed to the room to check what is in the room and to see if it is worth it to rob him or not. And they will probably try with another girl.
The thing is Medellin is getting a lot of tourist throwing big money around girls and that attracts people that want to rob you because there life is hard and cruel. Like someone said before some people make 40.000 cop a day working whole day and you a throwing 20 x that amount for a pussy to bust 1 nut.
In Colombia you are not the middle class but the upper class and that brings attention.
I got a good friend in Colombia and he always says this. Think with your head and not your dick.
If you are not pulling that type of woman where you live with your looks, you are not pulling them in Colombia.
If you know and just want to fuck and give money make sure you are staying at a good apartment or hotel where all guest need to register.
Put safety and security above pussy. Try to stay at place with multiple guards and where they check ID thoroughly and with a lot of camera.
Some places they have 2 guards all the time at front desk and they scan your ID and take pictures.
Know and remember that she is in for the money not your looks so do not let your guards down and do not overpay, play broke and do not pay gringo prices, some girls will accept local prices, if you pay higher prices easily knows that it just attracts the things you do not want to. The successful / rich looking will get you easy pussy in States but not in Colombia it will get you problems.
Is there a scenario where they can drug you without you drinking? I've heard stories through the years of such but they all seem to be too far-fetch in my opinion.In your food.
I find very useful Google earth / street views to check the buildings and the address on it, most streets are up to date.For casas especially, Street View is great to find the right door.
Is there a scenario where they can drug you without you drinking? I've heard stories through the years of such but they all seem to be too far-fetch in my opinion.Yes I've heard the stories.
1. They blow the power into your face. That's James Bond, not real life. It would require exceptional precision and timing, and you'd still be "what the fuck? Hey asshole what was that all about?
2. The girl puts it on her skin, so when you kiss her you get drugged. That's a lot of kissing and would require about 10 times the dosage. Plus Scopolamine can be absorbed through the skin so they are more likely to drug themselves.
3. They put it on doorknobs. That one came from a YouTube Medellin "expert. " Unless you're sucking doorknobs or immediately linking your hands after grabbing a doorknob, not much of a risk.
Occam's Razor. The easiest way is probably the right way. It's not difficult for a pretty girl to get a gringo to drink with her. It's not complicated for a pretty girl to distract a drunk gringo long enough to put something in his drink. If you're in a bar suggested by the girl, she can easily have accomplices drug your drink.
Other reports talk about a 'Zombie' state. I didn't experience that, but it may have just been due to my dosage. My experience was more akin to what people say when they've been date raped.This whole topic raises a question that perhaps you and / or others can answer. Whatever the drugs are that get used, will the victim be in a state of mind where they would open a security box in their apartment knowingly while intoxicated / drugged, etc. I know guys with a gun to their head would do so, but it sounds like in a lot of cases the guys just pass out and then get robbed. And your to be commended for sharing your experience, you can never let your guard down because when you least expect it, you can jacked up.
Mr Enternational
11-17-22, 19:12
I will say that historically I've invited the Paisas I thought were non-pros over to my place for some dinner drinks on the 2nd or 3rd date. Even this will stop for here on out. No more non-pros unless through Paisa friends.I understand how you are feeling coming off of the incident, but it does not have to stop. If the chick is a real nonpro and not someone up to no good then it is easy to find this out by vetting her.
One of the first things I ask a chick is what she does for a living. If she does not have a job that she goes to everyday from this time to this time then yellow flags should go up. Every nonpro chick that I know in Colombia has some type of job or is an actual full time student. And I know a lot of freaking Colombian chicks. That is why when I am in Bogota, Barranquilla, or Cali I am alone in the daytime. All the nonpros are at a real job or in a real school building. The don't have idle time to putz off.
Colombia is not like the Dominican Republic where chicks will sit on their ass for years staring at the sky without a job. Chicks that have jobs are not the ones out doing this kind of nefarious stuff.
ColombiaLover
11-18-22, 01:06
That's OK, because these girls are the ones you really should not be barebacking. Hi mileage. Probably been banged raw multiple times in the past. With hardened pros, I always use a condom even though, like you, I hate them and much prefer bareback.
The only issue is that if you are going to insist on barebacking, you will miss out on some very attractive girls who seem very promising but will not go bareback for obvious reasons. I am going to open it up to very attractive girls who at least provide BBBJ next time.
ShinyCrazy
11-18-22, 04:12
This is a good place for this.
Almost everyone carries a phone. Many bring a cheap phone to use. Keep the phone in a front pants pocket. If you need to look at the phone, step into a building or stop and put your back against the wall. Before pulling out your phone look both ways to see if anyone is watching you. Have Google Maps open with your destination marked. That way you only need a few seconds to get your bearings.
The street signs aren't on poles at the corners. They are mounted on the buildings at the corner. Street addresses are a measure of distance, in meters from the lower number cross street. For example, New Life's address is Calle 56 #43-39. It's on Calle 56,39 meters west of Carrera 43. Since it's an odd number it's on the south side. To make it easier, you go through the blue door and up the stairs, through a second security gate.
You'll only find white taxis at the airport. The taxis in Medellin are yellow. When you exit New Life turn left. Walk 2 blocks to Avenida Oriental. You can't miss it, it's the biggest street in the area. Cross Oriental and turn left. Walk 3 blocks (busy street, lots of people) and turn right on Avenida Maracaibo. That will take you to the Metro tracks. Turn left and you'll see Plaza Botero. You can find a taxi there, or walk to the Parque Berrio Metro station.Excellent info! Thanks!
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