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HumptyHump
12-13-22, 23:30
Hi all,

Three questions:

1. Last time visited cartagena. Had a hard time finding chicas comfortable on camera. Any info on pornstars / OF girls or prepagos who allow video?99% of my FB girls in MDE allow video. With a new girl, I take it slow. It's not lights, camera, action from the get go. I ask to take some photos while they are fully clothed. As the clothes begin to come off, I ask to take photos of them in their underwear, while complimenting them on their figures. These girls love to pose for the camera. Then while we are fucking, I will take a short break and take some more photos. Sometimes they cover their faces with their hands, but soon all that goes out the window in the heat of the moment. I have taken full on videos of most of the girls I've been with in MDE. The trick is to take it slow and make it seem very normal.

Luminous
12-13-22, 23:31
So true, they are just normal people. Some of them are famous or in position of power but terrible fucks.


Seeing that I have dated police chicks in the US, Brazil, Colombia, and Dominican Republic I just don't see the big deal about fucking someone because of their normal job. I also used to date a chick in Peru that had her own TV show. She was one of those psychic advice people. Also 3 days ago I fucked a chick in Barranquilla that was on some fat chicks reality show recently if that accounts for anything. Just normal ass people to me.

Knowledge
12-14-22, 01:35
A board member reviewed a girl in that place not long ago. He did not share the address but it is this place. It is also pretty popular on the Colombian punter sites.


It's in Laureles, https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/laureles-estadio/un-grupo-de-chicas-hermosas-y-adictivas-id-nn2et you can see where on the map below on that link and it looks like they have the best lineup of girls which is why i find it wierd how nobody have reviewed the place yet.

JustTK
12-14-22, 01:51
Seeing that I have dated police chicks in the US, Brazil, Colombia, and Dominican Republic I just don't see the big deal about fucking someone because of their normal job.I don't agree its a normal job. I want her handcuffed face down over the bonnet of her car. Or more likely motorbike in Colombia. I want it to hurt her for the first few minutes and then her groans of pain turn to pleasure. And I want her boss on the radio, trying to contact her "Sergeant Alvarez, is that you? Are you okay? Please report your whereabouts. What's that noise?" And she will learn how it feels to be fkd in the arse for a change. ACAB.

Igor54
12-14-22, 02:08
Hi,

I am going to visit Medellin and have no idea where to go. It's my #1 visit (mongering). Could you recommend "must to visit" places; night clubs, action spots, casas.

Thanks.

MedellinLove
12-14-22, 02:34
I'm not sure what you mean by bad date because there is no shortage of dissatisfied customers of agency and apartment girls. You only need to spend a few minutes on local review sites to see it. I am a Centro rat so on those occasions that I decide to turn my back on Centro I always vet the providers on review sites. I also make a point of leaving a review because I think it encourages the providers to perform well.Can you give us some sites?

DriftClouds
12-14-22, 03:14
Any brothels or streetgirls at Buenos Aires neighborhood?

Igor54
12-14-22, 04:14
Please, Could anyone make a fresh report on casas, clubs, etc. It's a pussy forum. You are discussing exchange rate, how to save a few pennies, safety and everything else. Except pussy places.

Thank you in advance.

Nounce
12-14-22, 07:34
I made factual observations for information sharing purposes.Specific to Relato? This is practically in your face and they make sure the customers see it before entering the seating area. Personally, I think behavior speaks more volume than how you dress.

Anthony2023
12-14-22, 09:20
Does anybody have a clue if the construction currently going on in Parque Lleras is set to wrap up anytime soon or is it a bigger project that will continue into the foreseeable future? I kinda like the idea of hunting in the park compared to calle 10. Hopefully whenever the construction concludes the girls migrate back off the busy street.I read in an article it was supposed to be completed by October but now the last week of December. I wouldn't count on it.

Anthony2023
12-14-22, 09:34
Don't argue with these guys about looks, looks is very subjective and most of these guys from I've gathered don't like curvy booty luscious women. Their idea of a 9 or 10/10 is probably Taylor Swift who's skinny, mid in the face and flat as a pancake but white with blonde hair and blue eyes. If you look at the girls who charge the most in the you U.S that's the look that is able to charge $1 k+/ HR.

With that said https://angeles-spa-2.ola.click/products click on the first girl "Naty" and I'd argue she's better looking than the girl you posted and charges $140 k / HR at that casa.

p.s Why has nobody reviewed Angeles spa yet? I'm sick and can't travel but this has been on my radar for quite some time but no reviews, come on guys are you just trying to keep this place a secret?You are right on the money, that's what I think they like 2 x 4's or tablas (wood planks) LOL. Either that or 18 yr olds have that look pre teen look. Not my thing I guess.

That's a damn good question, first time I'm hearing about that place and she's not bad looking, I still think the other chick is better. I might have to check it out and let you know.

Anthony2023
12-14-22, 09:37
A girl who naturally looks good and doesn't have 4+ surgeries done like the 1 you posted. To each their own but I would laugh in her face if she asked me for 500 k+ for a session.So in other words you don't have a link to one for example?

Anthony2023
12-14-22, 09:50
Specific to Relato? This is practically in your face and they make sure the customers see it before entering the seating area. Personally, I think behavior speaks more volume than how you dress.This is fascinating to see, they actually have a sign LOL. I heard about this on Reddit but never seen an actual picture of it. So how would they actually distinguish a "sex tourist" I mean obviously one would go nicely dress to this kind of establishment, at least business causal and the girl would be appropriately dressed for the occasion as well. But also if I'm not that old being 35, it wouldn't be as obvious as it would be seeing a 50+ yr old man out with a girl in her 20's. Would they not let them in if the age gap was obviously noticeable even tho they are appropriately dressed? It just seems stupid to me when they obviously know one of the reasons tourist visit is for sex. They should just stick to dress code. But even then, Have they not seen how scantily clad women dress to restaurants in places like Vegas and Miami now a days LOL.

PigSavinBoy
12-14-22, 12:24
Any brothels or streetgirls at Buenos Aires neighborhood?The closest action to Buenos Aires I know of is casa Natalia.

Latina400
12-14-22, 12:31
Does anyone know a safe and girlfriendly hotel, within the price range 30-60 dollar a night?

I have found a lot but most don't allow visitors, or only with fysical passport.

JustTK
12-14-22, 12:51
Please, Could anyone make a fresh report on casas, clubs, etc. It's a pussy forum.
Thank you in advance.Visited Friday late afternoon. Its a club w beer, music and girls. I listened to some music, had a beer and a girl. It was great. 3 stars.

Your welcome.

JustTK
12-14-22, 12:59
Any brothels or streetgirls at Buenos Aires neighborhood?Not that I know of. But many of the girls that live there and go out there are working girls. Theres plenty of nightlife, it just requires more work. Whereas centro is 10000 in a cab.

LittleBobLin
12-14-22, 13:20
I went La Isla two days ago and I think I got rigged off.

After negotiated with this 10/10 girl and agreed with 400 K (100 K for the room and 300 K for her).

She lead me to the bar and I paid 400 K to the man by the bar.

After a great session, she insisted me to pay her another 300 K, saying some BS that the payment I did earlier was entire for the room.

She didn't receive any.

I tried to argue but I knew no Spanish and I was there alone, didn't want to get into trouble.

I gave her the money and decide to move on.

Stupid me but still want to learn from the lesson, which one rigged me off? The bar man or the girl?

LittleBobLin
12-14-22, 13:31
I went La Isla two days ago and I think I got rigged off.

After negotiated with this girl and agreed with 400 K (100 K for the room and 300 K for her).

She lead me to the bar and I paid 400 K to the man by the bar.

After a great session, she insisted me to pay her another 300 K, saying some BS that the payment I did earlier was entire for the room.

She didn't receive any payment yet.

I tried to argue but I knew no Spanish and I was there alone. Didn't want to get into trouble.

I gave her the money and moved on.

Stupid me but still want to learn from the lesson, who rigged me off? The bar man or the girl?

Turgid
12-14-22, 15:32
That chick is a 7 at best without all the surgeries LOL like what is going on here.Just to get a grip on how you guys rate girls, how would you guys rate the chica in this photo?

Mr Enternational
12-14-22, 16:03
IStupid me but still want to learn from the lesson, which one rigged me off? The bar man or the girl?Seems you ripped yourself off!

JustTK
12-14-22, 16:28
Just to get a grip on how you guys rate girls, how would you guys rate the chica in this photo?I'll start - 4/10 - looks in reasonable health, but I am not usually attracted to blondes nor white girls. Def not a girl I would choose.

Voodoo Jones
12-14-22, 16:52
Stupid me but still want to learn from the lesson, which one rigged me off? The bar man or the girl?She ripped you off. Money always goes to the establishment. They take their cut then give her cut at the end of the night. Women might ask for a tip afterwards.

The Cane
12-14-22, 17:03
Just to get a grip on how you guys rate girls, how would you guys rate the chica in this photo?I like blonde white girls, and would have interest in this one. It's hard for me to give a "full confidence" rating because I can't see all of her body (tits and butt). I do find her face quite attractive though, which is super important to me. Based on what I can see, she's a solid 7 on my scale, and maybe as high as a 7+ depending on her tits and ass. I would definitely fuck her if I didn't see anybody else in the club I liked better and I was horny and ready to fuck since she appears to meet my minimum 7 out of 10 required score. Whereas JustTK doesn't prefer white girls, I am partial to the white girls and the Latinas. So, she gets a higher score on The Cane's scorecard.

LittleBobLin
12-14-22, 17:26
Seems you ripped yourself off!Yeah forgive my English typo.

Any advice for what I should've done?

Or advice I could take for the next visit.

MongerHunger
12-14-22, 18:16
Just to get a grip on how you guys rate girls, how would you guys rate the chica in this photo?Not my type.

JjBee62
12-14-22, 20:23
Just to get a grip on how you guys rate girls, how would you guys rate the chica in this photo?8 for the kitten, 5. 2 for the girl. Big feet, average body and face. Blonde or brunette I don't care, but pick one or the other.

Anthony2023
12-14-22, 21:25
I went La Isla two days ago and I think I got rigged off.

After negotiated with this girl and agreed with 400 K (100 K for the room and 300 K for her).

She lead me to the bar and I paid 400 K to the man by the bar.

After a great session, she insisted me to pay her another 300 K, saying some BS that the payment I did earlier was entire for the room.

La isla has a room fee? This is news to me.

Mtndew704
12-14-22, 22:00
So in other words you don't have a link to one for example?I don't have an instagram and like I said before your into the plastic chicas knock yourself out. You won't catch me paying those chicks 500 k+ for a session LOL.

HumbleHal
12-14-22, 22:40
Going to MDE over Christmas holiday to visit friends. Is the Santa Fe mall open, except on Dec. 25th? Not sure. Restaurants open, except on 25th? Any recent guidance? Loutron?

Knowledge
12-14-22, 22:53
The numerical ratings are highly subjective and individual. They are neither meaningful nor useful. As I wrote previously, threads about ratings come and go and tend to peter out within a week.


Just to get a grip on how you guys rate girls, how would you guys rate the chica in this photo?

Knowledge
12-14-22, 22:55
Thank you for this reminder it is important to confirm costs and service expectations in advance. I'm sorry you were victimized this way.


I went La Isla two days ago and I think I got rigged off.

After negotiated with this girl and agreed with 400 K (100 K for the room and 300 K for her).

She lead me to the bar and I paid 400 K to the man by the bar.

After a great session, she insisted me to pay her another 300 K, saying some BS that the payment I did earlier was entire for the room.

She didn't receive any payment yet.

I tried to argue but I knew no Spanish and I was there alone. Didn't want to get into trouble.

I gave her the money and moved on.

Stupid me but still want to learn from the lesson, who rigged me off? The bar man or the girl?

Knowledge
12-14-22, 23:05
There is an old school casa at calle 49 #43-68, a couple of doors east of the D1 on calle 49 (aka "Ayacucho). Way back when it was called Estambul before the tranvia was built. It's not Buenos Aires as such but it's pretty close to the eastern edge of Buenos Aires and the Placita de Flores. I haven't been in there in several years so I can't review the staffing or service.


Not that I know of. But many of the girls that live there and go out there are working girls. Theres plenty of nightlife, it just requires more work. Whereas centro is 10000 in a cab.

Knowledge
12-14-22, 23:16
The casas change names and sometimes go by several names at the same time. It's much more useful to share street addresses (see my response to this post).


The closest action to Buenos Aires I know of is casa Natalia.

Knowledge
12-14-22, 23:19
Oci. Mde and several other restaurants also display that sign prominently. You will also see it on their reservations web pages.


This is fascinating to see, they actually have a sign LOL. I heard about this on Reddit but never seen an actual picture of it. So how would they actually distinguish a "sex tourist" I mean obviously one would go nicely dress to this kind of establishment, at least business causal and the girl would be appropriately dressed for the occasion as well. But also if I'm not that old being 35, it wouldn't be as obvious as it would be seeing a 50+ yr old man out with a girl in her 20's. Would they not let them in if the age gap was obviously noticeable even tho they are appropriately dressed? It just seems stupid to me when they obviously know one of the reasons tourist visit is for sex. They should just stick to dress code. But even then, Have they not seen how scantily clad women dress to restaurants in places like Vegas and Miami now a days LOL.

DriftClouds
12-15-22, 00:37
Not that I know of. But many of the girls that live there and go out there are working girls. Theres plenty of nightlife, it just requires more work. Whereas centro is 10000 in a cab.Yeah my friend has a place at Buenos Aires area he said I can stay there short time for free, I am not sure if I should.

Zeos1
12-15-22, 00:43
Just to get a grip on how you guys rate girls, how would you guys rate the chica in this photo?Nothing wrong with her, but not at all my type. So a 5.

Mtndew704
12-15-22, 01:03
Just to get a grip on how you guys rate girls, how would you guys rate the chica in this photo?She doesn't even look Colombian.

Mtndew704
12-15-22, 01:14
I went La Isla two days ago and I think I got rigged off.

After negotiated with this girl and agreed with 400 K (100 K for the room and 300 K for her).

She lead me to the bar and I paid 400 K to the man by the bar.

After a great session, she insisted me to pay her another 300 K, saying some BS that the payment I did earlier was entire for the room.

She didn't receive any payment yet.

I tried to argue but I knew no Spanish and I was there alone. Didn't want to get into trouble.

I gave her the money and moved on.

Stupid me but still want to learn from the lesson, who rigged me off? The bar man or the girl?Both, you got played.

Smokers Rule
12-15-22, 01:18
MDE is difficult with no Spanish.


I tried to argue but I knew no Spanish and I was there alone. Didn't want to get into trouble.

I gave her the money and moved on.

Stupid me but still want to learn from the lesson, who rigged me off? The bar man or the girl?

JustTK
12-15-22, 02:13
Yeah my friend has a place at Buenos Aires area he said I can stay there short time for free, I am not sure if I should.Its pretty good fun up there. Lots of night life. One of the safer barrrios outside of the south. Do you have your own dial-a-entertainment?

JjBee62
12-15-22, 03:31
Going to MDE over Christmas holiday to visit friends. Is the Santa Fe mall open, except on Dec. 25th? Not sure. Restaurants open, except on 25th? Any recent guidance? Loutron?No idea about Loutron, but everything else should be open on the 24th. Some places might close early.

JjBee62
12-15-22, 03:37
I went La Isla two days ago and I think I got rigged off.

After negotiated with this girl and agreed with 400 K (100 K for the room and 300 K for her).

She lead me to the bar and I paid 400 K to the man by the bar.

After a great session, she insisted me to pay her another 300 K, saying some BS that the payment I did earlier was entire for the room.

She didn't receive any payment yet.

I tried to argue but I knew no Spanish and I was there alone. Didn't want to get into trouble.

I gave her the money and moved on.

Stupid me but still want to learn from the lesson, who rigged me off? The bar man or the girl?She screwed you.

In cases like that, at La Isla or most other establishments, take it back to the bar, or manager, or whoever is available. Use Google translate to explain what you understood and tell her you will pay her after you confirm it with the manager.

DriftClouds
12-15-22, 03:52
Its pretty good fun up there. Lots of night life. One of the safer barrrios outside of the south. Do you have your own dial-a-entertainment?I don't understand the meaning of "dial-a-entertainment".

It is a weird situation, me and my friend lives in the United States, and he is got a pen-pal in Medellin, and his pen-pal convinced him to invest a lot of money to build a house at that Buenos Aires neighborhood. And my friend he is not a monger. In exchange, he own small part of that building. Although he paid mostly of the house. And now he can live in a room with no windows, and I can live there too. But I am thinking his Medellin friend had take advantage of him and there might be something sketchy behind this shit deal. The only condition is if I live there, I can not bring hookers to the house.

JjBee62
12-15-22, 12:01
I don't understand the meaning of "dial-a-entertainment".

It is a weird situation, me and my friend lives in the United States, and he is got a pen-pal in Medellin, and his pen-pal convinced him to invest a lot of money to build a house at that Buenos Aires neighborhood. And my friend he is not a monger. In exchange, he own small part of that building. Although he paid mostly of the house. And now he can live in a room with no windows, and I can live there too. But I am thinking his Medellin friend had take advantage of him and there might be something sketchy behind this shit deal. The only condition is if I live there, I can not bring hookers to the house.Your friend is a monger now. He paid to get screwed.

I'm guessing your friend didn't use lawyers and contracts for his real estate investment. If not, he owns nothing. Depending on where it's located, a windowless room is not going to be comfortable, no air flow.

I would also question whether staying there for free is possible. You or he will most likely be presented with a list of things the house needs and payment will be expected.

Dial-a-entertainment refers to having women you can message to come have sex with you. Which doesn't matter if you stay at a place where you can't have visitors.

Anthony2023
12-15-22, 12:51
Oci. Mde and several other restaurants also display that sign prominently. You will also see it on their reservations web pages.I can't wait to see this for myself LOL. Whose idea was that. The sex tourism must really be as bad as they say it is. Either that or they just have a stick up their asses. Has anyone ever seen anything like this in other parts of the world? Because I've never seen it.

PigSavinBoy
12-15-22, 12:56
The casas change names and sometimes go by several names at the same time. It's much more useful to share street addresses (see my response to this post).


There is an old school casa at calle 49 #43-68, a couple of doors east of the D1 on calle 49 (aka "Ayacucho). Way back when it was called Estambul before the tranvia was built. It's not Buenos Aires as such but it's pretty close to the eastern edge of Buenos Aires and the Placita de Flores. I haven't been in there in several years so I can't review the staffing or service.Yep, that's the one I was talking about. Have not been there myself (yet) but I remember JohnnyWalker55 reporting on it here.

DriftClouds
12-15-22, 12:58
Why there are so many middle age Colombian man just sitting and standing on the sidewalk? I feel really insecure. After I calculate how much I spend on my frist trip, I realized I couldn't afford living in Poblado and laurels and facebook girls on regular basic. I am thinking centro would be my place next time. I went there but I only went to strip clubs because somehow, I feel more comfortable in a strip club than walking around on the street and I don't speak Spanish I couldn't pull my phone out on centro for safety reason. I understand those strange men are probably just labors resting but why the fuck standing and sitting right next to the street girls? Can't you just make some space if you want to have a beer then sit inside the bar? Some of them are younger guys but that make me even more uncomfortable what the fuck are you doing the only explanation is they are looking for foreign tourist victim. Shit.

Mr Enternational
12-15-22, 13:58
Why there are so many middle age colombian man just sitting and standing on the sidewalk? I feel really insecure. I understand those strange men are probably just labors resting but why the fuck standing and sitting right next to the street girls? Can't you just make some space if you want to have a beer then sit inside the bar? Some of them are younger guys but that make me even more uncomfortable what the fuck are you doing the only explanation is they are looking for foreign tourist victim. Shit.There is a thing as being cautious and there is another thing that is being paranoid. How many foreign people on that block did you see? If they were waiting for foreign tourist victims then they would starve to death. Or maybe you are just shy and do not want anyone to see you talking to a street girl. Don't worry. Nobody thinks you are there to do confession inside Vera Cruz church. They know you are there for the same reason as everyone else and nobody gives a shit.

Luminous
12-15-22, 14:25
You are totally applying your developed world mindset on a developing country. You are used to eating your Dominos' pizza a certain way and expect to get it exactly the same in anywhere in the world. The world won't change for you, you have to morph to the world you are in. These are not strange men, just normal men doing their normal things. Not saying it's totally safe but much safer (in my opinion) than what you are making it to be.

I am not saying you should do what you are not comfortable with. If you are not comfortable walking the take a cab.


Why there are so many middle age colombian man just sitting and standing on the sidewalk? I feel really insecure. After I calculate how much I spend on my frist trip, I realized I couldn't afford living in poblado and laurels and facebook girls on regular basic. I am thinking centro would be my place next time. I went there but I only went to strip clubs becuase somehow, I feel more comfortable in a strip club than walking around on the street and I don't speak spanish I couldn't pull my phone out on centro for safety reason. I understand those strange men are probably just labors resting but why the fuck standing and sitting right next to the street girls? Can't you just make some space if you want to have a beer then sit inside the bar? Some of them are younger guys but that make me even more uncomfortable what the fuck are you doing the only explanation is they are looking for foreign tourist victim. Shit.

JustTK
12-15-22, 14:51
I don't understand the meaning of "dial-a-entertainment"..I just meant girls on delivery.

JustTK
12-15-22, 14:58
You are totally applying your developed world mindset on a developing country. These are not strange men, just normal men doing their normal things. Not saying it's totally safe but much safer (in my opinion) than what you are making it to be.
.All this is true. And nearly all are exceptionally friendly. Time moves at a different speed in developing nations. Not everyone runs around like the world is about to end tmrw. Also many of the guys are picking up chicas too.

Zeos1
12-15-22, 16:18
Why there are so many middle age colombian man just sitting and standing on the sidewalk? I feel really insecure. After I calculate how much I spend on my frist trip, I realized I couldn't afford living in poblado and laurels and facebook girls on regular basic. I am thinking centro would be my place next time. I went there but I only went to strip clubs becuase somehow, I feel more comfortable in a strip club than walking around on the street and I don't speak spanish I couldn't pull my phone out on centro for safety reason. I understand those strange men are probably just labors resting but why the fuck standing and sitting right next to the street girls? Can't you just make some space if you want to have a beer then sit inside the bar? Some of them are younger guys but that make me even more uncomfortable what the fuck are you doing the only explanation is they are looking for foreign tourist victim. Shit.People just standing around are sometimes people running the businesses inside the stores and shopping centers. Or unemployed, or people recovering from the night before. And you can join in and play chess on the street, or various card games. Etc. And if they are around the street girls they may have some connection, their boyfriends, husbands, pimps, brothers, or just guys hoping to find someone within their budget. But I would guess none of them are looking for a foreign tourist victim. Or very very few. Those looking for a victim will not be standing around, they will be on the move, following you looking for an opportune spot, or in Parque Lleras where the potential victims are in abundance.

As for finding a place to live, I don't think your options are limited to Poblado or else centro. There are many other parts of the city where you might be more comfortable than centro, but that are more economical than Poblado. And I would not put Laureles into the same category as Poblado either, but again it depends where and what in either of them.

ChuchoLoco
12-15-22, 16:45
People just standing around are sometimes people running the businesses inside the stores and shopping centers. Or unemployed, or people recovering from the night before. And you can join in and play chess on the street, or various card games. Etc. And if they are around the street girls they may have some connection, their boyfriends, husbands, pimps, brothers, or just guys hoping to find someone within their budget. But I would guess none of them are looking for a foreign tourist victim. Or very very few. Those looking for a victim will not be standing around, they will be on the move, following you looking for an opportune spot, or in Parque Lleras where the potential victims are in abundance.

As for finding a place to live, I don't think your options are limited to Poblado or else centro. There are many other parts of the city where you might be more comfortable than centro, but that are more economical than Poblado. And I would not put Laureles into the same category as Poblado either, but again it depends where and what in either of them.What most Americans who haven't visited other countries don't realize is that parks are a meeting place for friends and family. Some are retired or have the day off or whatever but they go to the park to hangout and to meet and talk with friends or family and even strangers. Hard to believe today but 50 years ago Parque Bolivar was the place to meet especially at night after dinner. Totally safe. But that was then however meeting in parks is part of life in many countries. I just wanted to add to this post and agree with everything said. Having said that, it's understandable that some who aren't used to this may think otherwise and feel threatened and it's always a good idea to keep your guard up just don't get too paranoid.

Gilolo
12-15-22, 17:40
We have gone through 4 pages of stuff now other than actual report of an experience with a girl. I actually like the reports of a monger's experience with a girl in bed because it gives you an idea of what you can expect in Medellin. I will now post an actual mini report of a girl I met on my last trip. For those who prefer debates about minor things in Medellin, you should skip this post.

Una Noche en Medellin with Stephanie on my last trip.

The long and winding road to seeing her.

She was one of my early FB friends and I said Hello, in July, she said Hello, and that was it and I never followed up.

Then in September, she said Hello, and we engaged in some small talk but I didn't see her on my first trip.

In October, she messaged me again and we engaged in some small talk but I didn't pursue it.

A week before my last trip, she messaged me again to say Hello, sent some pictures and said she wanted to meet me. I said it is possible depending on how much. She laughed and said 250 mil plus taxi. I countered with my standard opening offer, 200 mil, 2 hours and sex without a condom. I always throw it out there but each part is negotiable and bareback is not essential but the opening offer is accepted, I take a girl very seriously. She said yes, and so I put her higher on my list of girls to see.

The problem was that I was booked up and it did not look as if I had any time for her. Still she was 22 years, attractive, slim and willing to take the standard offer so I tried hard to fit her on the schedule but time was ticking and I was already in the last stage of my trip...Please can you give me her phone number / Whasapp? I'd love meet her too.

Luminous
12-15-22, 17:58
Great thoughts ChuchoLoco and Zeos1. Generally people in US and the developed world live more individual and lonely lives and are not exposed to the "We" concept, these are "I" societies. As is evident in the data, this leads to significantly more depression and loneliness and less stronger bonds between people.

People in the developing world have less resources and live in more "We" based environments that leads to less loneliness and depression.

#2 reason I like Latin America. We all know what #1 is :)


What most Americans who haven't visited other countries don't realize is that parks are a meeting place for friends and family. Some are retired or have the day off or whatever but they go to the park to hangout and to meet and talk with friends or family and even strangers. Hard to believe today but 50 years ago Parque Bolivar was the place to meet especially at night after dinner. Totally safe. But that was then however meeting in parks is part of life in many countries. I just wanted to add to this post and agree with everything said. Having said that, it's understandable that some who aren't used to this may think otherwise and feel threatened and it's always a good idea to keep your guard up just don't get too paranoid.

Bill
12-15-22, 21:28
Why there are so many middle age colombian man just sitting and standing on the sidewalk? I feel really insecure. After I calculate how much I spend on my frist trip, I realized I couldn't afford living in poblado and laurels and facebook girls on regular basic. I am thinking centro would be my place next time. I went there but I only went to strip clubs becuase somehow, I feel more comfortable in a strip club than walking around on the street and I don't speak spanish I couldn't pull my phone out on centro for safety reason. I understand those strange men are probably just labors resting but why the fuck standing and sitting right next to the street girls? Can't you just make some space if you want to have a beer then sit inside the bar? Some of them are younger guys but that make me even more uncomfortable what the fuck are you doing the only explanation is they are looking for foreign tourist victim. Shit.There are men as you say "are looking for foreign tourist victim" and most of them speak spanish because its Colombia.

Some of them are pimps or handlers keeping a close eye on and protecting their moneymakers, some are not.

If you could learn some spanish you might be able to evesdrop and figure them out.

Lots of mongers want the "shoot fish in a barrel" experience and expect it in el Centro. Nope. Well maybe sometimes but eventually.

You can get stabbed, shot, drugged, mugged, ripped off jailed and worse in Medellin.

The best way to prevent this is to stay home. Its not similiar to rural Nebraska.

Many mongers don't want to hear about the negative.

Could be Its the glass is half full, ostrich head in the sand, denial sex addict thinking that leads to chasing that next orgasm LOL.

Knowledge
12-15-22, 22:23
It's very simple really. Strolling and socializing in parks and pedestrian zones like Junin is the only affordable entertainment for most of the population because it's free. Most Colombians are so poor that things we take for granted like movies, bars, restaurants and concerts are beyond their financial reach.


What most Americans who haven't visited other countries don't realize is that parks are a meeting place for friends and family. Some are retired or have the day off or whatever but they go to the park to hangout and to meet and talk with friends or family and even strangers. Hard to believe today but 50 years ago Parque Bolivar was the place to meet especially at night after dinner. Totally safe. But that was then however meeting in parks is part of life in many countries. I just wanted to add to this post and agree with everything said. Having said that, it's understandable that some who aren't used to this may think otherwise and feel threatened and it's always a good idea to keep your guard up just don't get too paranoid.

Voodoo Jones
12-15-22, 23:50
Me and another ISG member went to Loutron on a weekday at 5 pm (they open from noon to 10 pm that day). This "massage parlor" is located up in the hills and is pretty isolated with a long private driveway. Other people were saying drivers had trouble finding it, but our Uber got there using Waze without any issues. Now, when we were leaving, some Ubers were parked outside the building waiting for customers. The guy told us it's usually difficult finding an Uber because a lot of drivers don't like coming up this far, but again, we didn't have any issues.

The mansion was supposedly once owned by Pablo Escobar and it is very nice inside. As soon as your enter the main lobby with a winding staircase, you're greeted by one of the madams of the house. She leads you into a bar area and we took seats on the small balcony outside. They give you a drink and then 7 women were brought to your table, one at a time. They introduce themselves and show you what's under their robes. You're given a notepad and write down the names of the ones you like. We both had the same top 2 women and because I already had some great experiences the last couple days, I let him choose. I got Andrea and had a good time. It was 380 K for 70 minutes including strip tease, massage, and the drink.

I'm a face guy first and foremost, so I liked her. Fake rack, but real, nice ass. Surprisingly, the massage was good. Performance was also good. Probably the best pro experience I had in Colombia, but I only used a few in my trips to Bogota and now Medellin. Plus I prefer semi-pro women and had the best experiences with them (several hours at my apartment at a time).

My only complaint is that it was about 60 minutes instead of 70, but I was satisfied so what was I going to do for another 10 minutes? Talk to her? Nah, I was hungry and we ended up going to this nice ass restaurant named Colossal 10 minutes away that overlooked the city. You might want to opt for 60 minutes instead, even though it's only a 30 K difference. Lastly, I would have gone earlier in the afternoon but had other things come up.

Full disclosure: my friend didn't have as good of an experience. I lucked out I let him choose I guess.

Knowledge
12-16-22, 02:09
I'm glad I could help. If you don't mind me asking, what is the interest in Buenos Aires other than the casa?


Yep, that's the one I was talking about. Have not been there myself (yet) but I remember JohnnyWalker55 reporting on it here.

Knowledge
12-16-22, 02:32
Call me old fashioned but I feel for your friend. At 300 K+ he deserved to have his world rocked.


Me and another ISG member went to Loutron on a weekday at 5 pm (they open from noon to 10 pm that day). This "massage parlor" is located up in the hills and is pretty isolated with a long private driveway. Other people were saying drivers had trouble finding it, but our Uber got there using Waze without any issues. Now, when we were leaving, some Ubers were parked outside the building waiting for customers. The guy told us it's usually difficult finding an Uber because a lot of drivers don't like coming up this far, but again, we didn't have any issues.

The mansion was supposedly once owned by Pablo Escobar and it is very nice inside. As soon as your enter the main lobby with a winding staircase, you're greeted by one of the madams of the house. She leads you into a bar area and we took seats on the small balcony outside. They give you a drink and then 7 women were brought to your table, one at a time. They introduce themselves and show you what's under their robes. You're given a notepad and write down the names of the ones you like. We both had the same top 2 women and because I already had some great experiences the last couple days, I let him choose. I got Andrea and had a good time. It was 380 K for 70 minutes including strip tease, massage, and the drink.

I'm a face guy first and foremost, so I liked her. Fake rack, but real, nice ass. Surprisingly, the massage was good. Performance was also good. Probably the best pro experience I had in Colombia, but I only used a few in my trips to Bogota and now Medellin. Plus I prefer semi-pro women and had the best experiences with them (several hours at my apartment at a time).

My only complaint is that it was about 60 minutes instead of 70, but I was satisfied so what was I going to do for another 10 minutes? Talk to her? Nah, I was hungry and we ended up going to this nice ass restaurant named Colossal 10 minutes away that overlooked the city. You might want to opt for 60 minutes instead, even though it's only a 30 K difference. Lastly, I would have gone earlier in the afternoon but had other things come up.

Full disclosure: my friend didn't have as good of an experience. I lucked out I let him choose I guess.

JustTK
12-16-22, 03:20
Generally people in US and the developed world live more individual and lonely lives and are not exposed to the "We" concept, these are "I" societies. They'll get it eventually. When the Great Replacement finally arrives.

JustTK
12-16-22, 03:25
Please can you give me her phone number / Whasapp? I'd love meet her too.You got to be kiddin right? It took him 7 paras to get beyond 'Hello, How much time do you plan for your trip?

JustTK
12-16-22, 03:28
Nobody thinks you are there to do confession inside Vera Cruz church. They know you are there for the same reason as everyone else and nobody gives a shit.Come now Mr E. I actually go there to eat veggie food... As well as...

Knowledge
12-16-22, 04:34
Got lost here on the way to stormfront did you?


They'll get it eventually. When the Great Replacement finally arrives.

Nclpimp
12-16-22, 04:51
I read about 1 or 2 weeks ago about a casa in laureles in circunvalar 5 and 71st. It was right next to the gourmet restaurante Marino but lost that post. Can anyone give the address or give me the post number. I went back 20 pages and couldn't find it. I'll be staying in that block basically. Thanks.

Parasitius
12-16-22, 06:08
It's very simple really. Strolling and socializing in parks and pedestrian zones like Junin is the only affordable entertainment for most of the population because it's free. Most Colombians are so poor that things we take for granted like movies, bars, restaurants and concerts are beyond their financial reach.Seems like jumping to conclusions to me.

America is an extreme society with a lot of issues, if you want to compare countries to figure something out it should never be treated as the norm.

1. Car culture and sunurbs that make extreme human isolation the norm.

2. Look at all the pop psychology articles published in the past 15 years talking about the extreme social issues around the average American having less than 1 close friend.

Nounce
12-16-22, 06:58
..I don't speak spanish I couldn't pull my phone out on centro for safety reason....I took my phone out but it is like everywhere else you should be aware of your surroundings. You can get the least expensive brand new Samsung phone for about 400 mil in El Centro or maybe exitos with 1 year warranty. If you are not sure about price in El Centro, just walk around and check price in 2 or 3 stores and you will get an idea of what is the going price. One beauty of El Centro is that you will likely see a cluster of stores selling the same stuff. You are less likely to be taken advantage of if you check price from different stores. Many locals or girls I know all shop in El Centro.

You can observe the area from Gutenburg building or from the bar across before you venture into the bars on the back side. Just decide where you want to observe and go find a spot to have lunch. You may run into a member there.

The lodging situation is usually the longer you stay that the cheaper it is regardless the areas. If you eat where locals eat, it will be a lot cheaper.

Find Surfer's posts, he shared a lot of useful info.

Nounce
12-16-22, 07:12
What most Americans who haven't visited other countries don't realize is that parks are a meeting place for friends and family. Some are retired or have the day off or whatever but they go to the park to hangout and to meet and talk with friends or family and even strangers. ....But this is similar to where I live in US. Most parks in my area have BBQ tables some even with electricity. You can see people have parties or just gather there. Then there is playground in the park for kids so parents talk to each other. Also people walk their dogs in the park and they know each other too. Having said that, but I do see a difference in places like Periodista Park. Also in Brazil, they gather in large group all the time, rich or poor.

ChuchoLoco
12-16-22, 13:42
But this is similar to where I live in US. Most parks in my area have BBQ tables some even with electricity. You can see people have parties or just gather there. Then there is playground in the park for kids so parents talk to each other. Also people walk their dogs in the park and they know each other too. Having said that, but I do see a difference in places like Periodista Park. Also in Brazil, they gather in large group all the time, rich or poor.I have similar parks where I live too. Great place for families and friends to gather but they are still different. People drive to the parks and at least where I live they are in a suburban setting. In Medellin people walk there and it's a different setting where the one guy felt intimidated by some individuals. Yes, Periodista is different. I probably have spent too much time there even around midnight. It does get sketchy but nobody has ever bothered me but probably not the place for most. I guess I have been lucky and maybe foolish for going there that late at night. I was probably the oldest person there. I would say most parks in Medellin are safe during the day. It was probably that the guy was just out of his element.

Knowledge
12-16-22, 14:16
My post was about Colombia. In any case, I offer these facts:

1. Most of the American population lives in cities, a trend that began during the 19th century Industrial Revolution.

2. The Latino custom of addressing strangers as "amigo" or "mi amor" should not be misinterpreted as a friend relationship.


Seems like jumping to conclusions to me.

America is an extreme society with a lot of issues, if you want to compare countries to figure something out it should never be treated as the norm.

1. Car culture and sunurbs that make extreme human isolation the norm.

2. Look at all the pop psychology articles published in the past 15 years talking about the extreme social issues around the average American having less than 1 close friend.

Nil Admirari
12-16-22, 15:57
Me and another ISG member went to Loutron on a weekday at 5 pm............Surprisingly, the massage was good. Performance was also good. Probably the best pro experience I had in Colombia. .My only two visits up the hill to Loutron's (in years past), I took a pass on the chicas on view when finding that DFK and BBBJ was not on the menu, even with the offer of a generous propina (at least with the selected ladies from the lineup that got my juices flowing). Voodoo Jones, I'm curious--when you report that "Performance was also good", did that include either or both of these GFE enhancements (french kisses and mamada natural, aka BBBJ)? If so, were these included in the 380 or for an extra tip?

Turgid
12-16-22, 16:45
Just to get a grip on how you guys rate girls, how would you guys rate the chica in this photo?Ok, the ratings were from a 4 to a 7. One said she did not look Colombian. Some said she was not their type meaning that they would not pick her in a line up. BTW she is a former Miss Colombia and model. You guys have extremely high taste, LOL.

Eloket
12-16-22, 18:05
Landed Wednesday. After a very long trip I had a date with my favourite chicka. We have chatted most of the autumn and both were keen on seeing each other live. Had a dear encounter and then off for a meal. Bisonte in Laureles was near and provided excellent food and service. After some checking of my TV channels to find out if I can watch World Cup soccer, fatigue took over and both fell asleep.

Thursday went to supply my stock of food and drinks. Fixed a Tigo SIM. The apartment had no suitable mirror so I went to buy one. My earlier experience is that a mirror and music will enhance the speed to nudity. Still a bit exhausted and with a sore neck I rested in the apartment for the night while setting up dates for Friday. I'm staying until 12 Jan and I reckon I will have enough action until then.

Popeye back in action.

MiamiBoy1
12-16-22, 18:08
Ok, the ratings were from a 4 to a 7. One said she did not look Colombian. Some said she was not their type meaning that they would not pick her in a line up. BTW she is a former Miss Colombia and model. You guys have extremely high taste, LOL.High taste? I don't think they have any taste at all. One can't rate a girl a 4 or a 5 just because she is not his type. If he does that, he is not being objective and that defeats the whole purpose of the rating. A girl who is a true 4/10 is plain ugly, has physical defects. A 5 is someone you would do only when drunk and if no other options are available. The girl you posted is definitely not a 4 or a 5. She might not be someone's type, I get it, but objectively, she is well above average looking, I personally would put her in the 7 to 8 range, based on the only photo posted. Someone has recently posted some Instagram girl with big tits and ass. Totally not my type, I would probably would never pick her, but I still would rate her at least 7-7. 5, because her face is cute, hair / skin etc look healthy, looks like she takes care of herself, and even though she is not slim, which is my preferred body type, I think her body is proportional.

Don't pay attention to the comments like, oh, she is not Colombian, I rate her a 3/10 or, she looks healthy but not my type, therefore, 4/10 - totally useless comments. If you want to post your rating, make sure you are able to explain it, the way TheCane did.

So, according to ISG voters, a former miss Colombia and a model gets only 5.5/10. So pathetic

Hillbilly69
12-16-22, 18:30
I can't argue with much that is posted about centro, dangerous place, two of my friends had cell phones stolen this week and I don't have many friends, one got classic pecker grab from a girl then took his Samsung 21 (first day newbie) other buddy was drunk and took girl for first time back to his room, gone cell phone, police did nothing, he tried saving 2 bucks LOL. A girl I know got stabbed and killed at hotel by fountain two days ago, police came in force this week the El Colombiano paper did a video on Botero park about all bums, crap smell and abandonment of park by the Mayor and police. Police drove out most of the hoodies out of the park last few days, the guys sitting between Premier hotel and Veracruz church are either protecting their GF who is hooking or stealing and extorting someone.

Yes Grille Occidental is best strip club in Centro but the block you have to travel into Bronx is crazy dangerous at night, best time get there is about 8 PM dead after 11 PM beers are 5 k each no cover charge anything goes as far as touching or inserting bills the other two on De Greif are more like bing parlors than a strip club lame as F. Get Uber or Indriver directly from club leaving after dark.

Tuesday afternoon is best day of week for girls from 5-7 PM get the hell out of park after that, I don't recommend taking a phone to centro at all but if you do make sure is a cheapie. Try not to wear your beach shorts and flip flops it isn't Sosua!

I know someone who will guide you in Centro if needed, he makes good body guard, PM me for his number if neeeded the info is priceless for first timers he knows all the centro casas as he used to work at them. Speaks English and Spanish he is a Colombian.

Few random pics.

The Cane
12-16-22, 18:36
Ok, the ratings were from a 4 to a 7. One said she did not look Colombian. Some said she was not their type meaning that they would not pick her in a line up. BTW she is a former Miss Colombia and model. You guys have extremely high taste, LOL.I would just say that not all beauty pageant participants are hot, or even attractive for that matter. Take away the makeup, the processed hair, and perhaps a few other enhancements and well. You know that one had to rely heavily on her other talents to get where she is LOL! I have definitely seen some so-called pageant "beauties" that would be unfuckable per my optics scale. It was a rather disappointing reality to discover.

The Cane
12-16-22, 18:49
High taste? I don't think they have any taste at all. Don't pay attention to the comments like, oh, she is not Colombian, I rate her a 3/10 or, she looks healthy but not my type, therefore, 4/10 - totally useless comments. If you want to post your rating, make sure you are able to explain it, the way The Cane did. So, according to ISG voters, a former miss Colombia and a model gets only 5.5/10. So patheticThe reason why I didn't go higher than 7.5 is because whereas she apparently is not slim enough for you, she's too slim for me. I salivate over a narrow waist with a plump, round "hinder" hahaha. Hard to tell from that particular pic if she has that, so held at 7.5. But 100% agree that 3 to 5 is reserved for ugly to very ugly chicks only. And she's nowhere near to being ugly. Rather she's very fuckable, at least to me! And not because she's a Miss Colombia either. As I said, I've actually seen plenty of those pageant types who do nothing for me.

Mr Enternational
12-16-22, 19:09
One can't rate a girl a 4 or a 5 just because she is not his type. If he does that, he is not being objective and that defeats the whole purpose of the rating.
So, according to ISG voters, a former miss Colombia and a model gets only 5.5/10. So patheticIsn't the whole idea of a rating to rate how it appeals to you? That is subjectivity in and of itself. In order to do an objective rating there would need to be a list of objective criteria to fit. Like 3 centimeter nose. Size 6 shoe. And even if there was a list of objective criteria, that is not going to say that the person who scores a 10 on that particular set of objective criteria is going to appeal to everyone or even most people. It is only saying they fit in that particular box.

Who the hell gives a movie they do not like (not their type) a high rating and a movie they like (their type of movie) a low rating? I do not like sushi so I am not giving sushi a 9 rating. I like ribeyes, but I am not saying it is pathetic for a vegetarian not to give a ribeye a 9 rating.

Being a model is not saying shit. All three of these women are models, but that does not mean they are rated 10 by everyone. Why is it so hard to understand that everyone has different tastes and that your taste is not the be all end all best taste? Nobody's dick has to fuck a woman that somebody else's dick likes. And just because your dick like a woman it does not mean everyone else's dick should like her.

Voodoo Jones
12-16-22, 19:44
My only two visits up the hill to Loutron's (in years past), I took a pass on the chicas on view when finding that DFK and BBBJ was not on the menu, even with the offer of a generous propina (at least with the selected ladies from the lineup that got my juices flowing). Voodoo Jones, I'm curious--when you report that "Performance was also good", did that include either or both of these GFE enhancements (french kisses and mamada natural, aka BBBJ)? If so, were these included in the 380 or for an extra tip?I don't kiss pros, just the semi-pros I meet through other avenues, and didn't ask for BBBJ (should have mentioned that). It was my first time trying this place out and head can sometimes only last a few minutes, especially because the massage and strip tease take up a good portion of the hour.

However, another ISG member went the day after me and he paid extra for BBBJ from two girls at once, so it's definitely possible.

No GFE experience, didn't ask. Again, really don't care about that from pros. She was fun and seemed real into it once we got to business.

I should probably be a little more specific about the sex, but I feel like I'm writing erotica and that's not my thing LOL. I will say this though: most Colombian chicks like to do short, quick thrusts when on top. I like longer movements and so did she.

JustTK
12-16-22, 19:49
BTW she is a former Miss Colombia and model. You guys have extremely high taste, LOL.Hehe. Not about high or low taste. Just goes to show its subjective and others can't dictate who you find attractive.

JustTK
12-16-22, 20:06
One can't rate a girl a 4 or a 5 just because she is not his type. If he does that, he is not being objective and that defeats the whole purpose of the rating. A girl who is a true 4/10 is plain ugly, has physical defects. A 5 is someone you would do only when drunk and if no other options are available. So patheticAn incredibly dumb comment from the BM who thinks he owns an objective beautiful looks measuring stick. Of course NO ONE was being OBJECTIVE. Bcos looks ARE SUBJECTIVE. That was the whole point of the exercise, Duh.

MiamiBoy1
12-16-22, 20:14
An incredibly dumb comment from the BM who thinks he owns an objective beautiful looks measuring stick. Of course NO ONE was being OBJECTIVE. Bcos looks ARE SUBJECTIVE. That was the whole point of the exercise, Duh.I would rate your mental capacity 4/10. And I'm being generous.

Projektzer
12-16-22, 20:36
They'll get it eventually. When the Great Replacement finally arrives.LOL are you outing yourself as a white nationalist? Wtf is this? I'm here for fun under the sun not white boy fever dreams.

PigSavinBoy
12-16-22, 20:40
If you don't mind me asking, what is the interest in Buenos Aires other than the casa?Just replying to the poster that originally asked about it. I stayed couple times in Bombona area, which I guess is technically where this casa is located.

Don't know much about the BA neighborhood but I have strolled couple times at late evening (7-10) alongside the tranvia line from San Jose to Buenos Aires station and I'd say it's relatively safe; it was always lively, lots of people, some street performers, many food places (especially around BA station), bars and some clubs too I think. Got to be extra aware of chicos whizzing downhill at amazing speeds on their bicycles though; silent and the meeting could be deadly.

Zeos1
12-16-22, 21:57
High taste? I don't think they have any taste at all. One can't rate a girl a 4 or a 5 just because she is not his type. If he does that, he is not being objective and that defeats the whole purpose of the rating. A girl who is a true 4/10 is plain ugly, has physical defects. A 5 is someone you would do only when drunk and if no other options are available. The girl you posted is definitely not a 4 or a 5. She might not be someone's type, I get it, but objectively, she is well above average looking, I personally would put her in the 7 to 8 range, based on the only photo posted. Someone has recently posted some Instagram girl with big tits and ass. Totally not my type, I would probably would never pick her, but I still would rate her at least 7-7. 5, because her face is cute, hair / skin etc look healthy, looks like she takes care of herself, and even though she is not slim, which is my preferred body type, I think her body is proportional.

Don't pay attention to the comments like, oh, she is not Colombian, I rate her a 3/10 or, she looks healthy but not my type, therefore, 4/10 - totally useless comments. If you want to post your rating, make sure you are able to explain it, the way TheCane did.

So, according to ISG voters, a former miss Colombia and a model gets only 5.5/10. So patheticShame shame shame. On us. You ask for the rating, you get it, and then you proceed to attack everyone that doesn't agree with you.

MiamiBoy1
12-16-22, 22:10
Shame shame shame. On us. You ask for the rating, you get it, and then you proceed to attack everyone that doesn't agree with you.It was not me who posted the picture of the girl and asked to rate her. You guys are trashing the former miss Colombia rating her 4's and 5's, and obviously don't agree with all the people, judges, etc who voted for her.

John Clayton
12-16-22, 22:26
It was not me who posted the picture of the girl and asked to rate her. You guys are trashing the former miss Colombia rating her 4's and 5's, and obviously don't agree with all the people, judges, etc who voted for her.You tricked us!

The Cane
12-16-22, 22:31
It was not me who posted the picture of the girl and asked to rate her. You guys are trashing the former miss Colombia rating her 4's and 5's, and obviously don't agree with all the people, judges, etc who voted for her.I think some men are proud and eager to try to "prove" they have high standards by being overly "tough" in their optics judgments, and in the process lose clear perspective. I have seen Turgid say that there's no such thing as having "taste" when it comes to determining who is attractive since it's all so objective, but I disagree. In my view, you have "optics taste" if people (both men and women) tend to agree with you more often than not when you say someone is attractive (or not). Seeing that this woman is allegedly a Miss Colombia, then in my way of thinking the odds are that more people will find her to be attractive than not. Meaning that if you fall into that group who thinks she's attractive then you have taste. And if you don't? Then you don't have taste LOL! At least not with respect to her anyway hehe!

ElPapi
12-16-22, 22:50
Had an amazing 2 nights and 3 days in Medellin. Thanks to HumptyHump for your valuable feedback. Since it was a last minute decision he kind a help and guide me through the entire trip including girls, where to stay and where to go to roam around. He also msg me while I was in Medellin to ensure I was ok. Thanks a lot brother.

During my trip I meet 4 FB girls and one girl from the Do Spa.

Keller.

Humtyhump recommend me this girl from FB and I communicated her the day I was traveling. Mind it Immigration in MDE takes long time almost 40-60 min. After the immigration I took the taxi to my Airbnb. Stayed in Laurels and the location was amazing close to everything. I msg Keller after setting down and she said she can be there within 30 min. I quickly took a shower and went out to a pharmacy next door and bought the condoms and had some snacks on a coffee shop. Keller msg that she is downstairs and I went back and saw her waiting. She is so cute and pretty. We hugged and then went upstairs in the apartment. I bought some beer so we started drinking and then she started taking off her clothes. She has a nice curvy Colombian body with sexy ass. Her body was so soft and keep touching and kissing her. We went to bed and she started panting with her pussy. She allowed me to video her pussy fingering. We started DFK and I was squeezing her boobs. It was so nice and soft boobs and her nipples were pointy perfect for sucking. She gave a me decent BJ and no rush. As I was sucking her nipples she put the condom and I slowly insert into her vagina. I find her push very tight and as I was pounding her felt like I was crossing two layer inside her pussy. Great feeling and she was enjoying also. We change to multiple position and finally came in doggy. We relax for a bit and then eventually she left. She was no nice, no drama and very down to earth. She also hooked me up with her friends and told me she does trio with her friend. Next time I will do trio with her. Highly recommended girl. Everything about her was perfect.

Nani.

Humtyhump reviewed her and she did not disappoint. I booked for 10 pm and she actually came on time. Very sweet girl. Smile and laugh a lot. She is more of a party girl and we started drinking and dancing to music. Her body is very tight and sexy. Her ass is perfect. Most of the Colombian Girls have sexy ass. As we were dancing we were kissing deeply and I was touching her and also playing with her boobs. Once in the bed she gave me an amazing BJ. It was so good that I told her I want to cum on her mouth and she agreed. We the. Switch position mish, doggy, cowgirl and eventually came in her mouth. She swallows every drop it. I didn't realized she also squirt a lot. The bed was wet and I liked it. We spend some more time chilling and drinking and eventually repeat above session. Very satisfying and highly recommended.

Sophia.

Next day morning I wanted to see someone as o enjoyed morning sex lot. Found Sophia from FB and she was available. Set up a time and she came to my apartment at 10 am. She is only 19 and have a sexy petite body. She is tall and nice curve and once naked she was to hot. She got some weed and we started smoking and doing short gun. I told her I love sex in weed and she agree also. We went to the room and as I was smoking she gave me nice blow job. We switch turn as she was smoking I sucked her pussy. It was great chemistry. We started kissing, sucking her nipples. She was very Sensitive to Her nipples. But I enjoyed it. Had sex with her mostly on cowgirl, doggy and standing position was very sexy and she was moaning a lot. I eventually came while on missionary. Great experience and felt no rush. One thing I have to stay this MDE girls they love what they do and enjoy a lot.

Elly.

I know Elly from Cartegana and since she loved to MDE decide to meet her. We had a whole night of fucking, dancing, drinking, smoking and other things. She is a gem and has lot of energy to party whole night. We had sex 3 times and it was in between when we were dancing, when we went to bed and when we got up in the morning. She is one of the girl who speak English very well. I didn't need any translator at all. Highly recommended.

Medellin is a gem for me. I will visit again.

JjBee62
12-16-22, 23:05
It's very simple really. Strolling and socializing in parks and pedestrian zones like Junin is the only affordable entertainment for most of the population because it's free. Most Colombians are so poor that things we take for granted like movies, bars, restaurants and concerts are beyond their financial reach.I just spent 2 days in the north of Antioquia and Cordoba. Everywhere I went there were people just sitting around talking. I'm pretty sure they weren't waiting for gringos to rob, because they don't see very many.

JjBee62
12-16-22, 23:07
Seems like jumping to conclusions to me.

America is an extreme society with a lot of issues, if you want to compare countries to figure something out it should never be treated as the norm.

1. Car culture and sunurbs that make extreme human isolation the norm.

2. Look at all the pop psychology articles published in the past 15 years talking about the extreme social issues around the average American having less than 1 close friend.I've got less than 1 close friend. Ever since he lost his arm.

Elvis 2008
12-16-22, 23:32
Ok, the ratings were from a 4 to a 7. One said she did not look Colombian. Some said she was not their type meaning that they would not pick her in a line up. BTW she is a former Miss Colombia and model. You guys have extremely high taste, LOL.Turgid, kudos to you for the clever dig on so many guys here. You just proved what I have always said about this forum.

I have found the best single measurement with regards to being in demand is dress type. My ideal woman is dress size 0, and the most desired women are US sized 0 to 4. Once you get higher than that, prices are going to go down as the women are less desired. Average American woman is dress size 12.

You can get an approximation here: https://www.macys.com/p/evening-dress-code/size-guide-for-body-types/.

Thing is yes, you see women with a 36 inch chest wearing size 0 and 2 dresses. In fact, all the Miss Colombians I looked up had a waist size of 24 or less putting them in the zero dress category with waist.

Once you get past 2 or 4, to me, the higher the dress size, the lower the demand is for the woman, and the lower the price. There is nothing subjective about that. For the guys who think this is subjective, show me a size 14 or higher beauty queen winner.

Subconsciously when looking at a market of woman, I look for the most fit women, the women with 0 to 4 dress sizes and see what they charge. Once you establish that baseline, you can subtract from that amount as you go higher on the dress size scale.

If you like hamburger as much as steak, that is to your advantage as you are paying less to eat. If you like women in dress size 10 or greater, then you should be happy you are getting it for less but do not kid yourself. Just like we all know there is more demand for steak than burgers, we know there is more demand for women with a dress size of zero than one who is 10 or higher.

JjBee62
12-16-22, 23:39
High taste? I don't think they have any taste at all. One can't rate a girl a 4 or a 5 just because she is not his type. If he does that, he is not being objective and that defeats the whole purpose of the rating. A girl who is a true 4/10 is plain ugly, has physical defects. A 5 is someone you would do only when drunk and if no other options are available. The girl you posted is definitely not a 4 or a 5. She might not be someone's type, I get it, but objectively, she is well above average looking, I personally would put her in the 7 to 8 range, based on the only photo posted. Someone has recently posted some Instagram girl with big tits and ass. Totally not my type, I would probably would never pick her, but I still would rate her at least 7-7. 5, because her face is cute, hair / skin etc look healthy, looks like she takes care of herself, and even though she is not slim, which is my preferred body type, I think her body is proportional.

Don't pay attention to the comments like, oh, she is not Colombian, I rate her a 3/10 or, she looks healthy but not my type, therefore, 4/10 - totally useless comments. If you want to post your rating, make sure you are able to explain it, the way TheCane did.

So, according to ISG voters, a former miss Colombia and a model gets only 5.5/10. So patheticI wouldn't fuck her even if I was drunk, even if no one else was available and she was free. That means she's less than a 5, according to your definition. 4 sounds about right. Now if I wanted to hire someone to sell toothpaste or tampons, that's different. I'm looking at her for a specific purpose. On the other hand if I was hiring a foot model, there's no way she would get the job. Same for a hair model.

I've fucked a few times in my life. Enough times that I never have to fuck. I'll simply walk away and go to bed. I'll still have a dick tomorrow and there will still be pussy. So it never matters if a girl is on the cover of every magazine, I'm not rating her on anything other than my interest in fucking her.

Here is the bit where you're like a pig with a dildo, you can't seem to grasp it. Everyone is going to rate women differently. Some vary due to their mood. Some vary based on the woman's politics. Get a dictionary, look up "subjective", read the definition, then get someone to explain it to you. That's what any beauty scale is. Subjective.

Zeos1
12-17-22, 00:15
It was not me who posted the picture of the girl and asked to rate her. You guys are trashing the former miss Colombia rating her 4's and 5's, and obviously don't agree with all the people, judges, etc who voted for her.You talked me into it. Changing my rating to a 2.

JustTK
12-17-22, 00:16
You guys are trashing the former miss Colombia rating her 4's and 5's, and obviously don't agree with all the people, judges, etc who voted for her.And what's wrong with that? Oh I get it. Bcos its not how YOUR measuring stick is calibrated.

The Cane
12-17-22, 00:41
I think some men are proud and eager to try to "prove" they have high standards by being overly "tough" in their optics judgments, and in the process lose clear perspective. I have seen Turgid say that there's no such thing as having "taste" when it comes to determining who is attractive since it's all so objective, but I disagree. In my view, you have "optics taste" if people (both men and women) tend to agree with you more often than not when you say someone is attractive (or not). Seeing that this woman is allegedly a Miss Colombia, then in my way of thinking the odds are that more people will find her to be attractive than not. Meaning that if you fall into that group who thinks she's attractive then you have taste. And if you don't? Then you don't have taste LOL! At least not with respect to her anyway hehe!I meant to say per Turgid (and others too) that it's all so "subjective".

Bill
12-17-22, 01:44
I can't argue with much that is posted about centro, dangerous place, two of my friends had cell phones stolen this week and I don't have many friends, one got classic pecker grab from a girl then took his Samsung 21 (first day newbie) other buddy was drunk and took girl for first time back to his room, gone cell phone, police did nothing, he tried saving 2 bucks LOL. A girl I know got stabbed and killed at hotel by fountain two days ago, police came in force this week the El Colombiano paper did a video on Botero park about all bums, crap smell and abandonment of park by the Mayor and police. Police drove out most of the hoodies out of the park last few days, the guys sitting between Premier hotel and Veracruz church are either protecting their GF who is hooking or stealing and extorting someone.

Yes Grille Occidental is best strip club in Centro but the block you have to travel into Bronx is crazy dangerous at night, best time get there is about 8 PM dead after 11 PM beers are 5 k each no cover charge anything goes as far as touching or inserting bills the other two on De Greif are more like bing parlors than a strip club lame as F. Get Uber or Indriver directly from club leaving after dark.

Tuesday afternoon is best day of week for girls from 5-7 PM get the hell out of park after that, I don't recommend taking a phone to centro at all but if you do make sure is a cheapie. Try not to wear your beach shorts and flip flops it isn't Sosua!

I know someone who will guide you in Centro if needed, he makes good body guard, PM me for his number if neeeded the info is priceless for first timers he knows all the centro casas as he used to work at them. Speaks English and Spanish he is a Colombian.

Few random pics.Thank you for the excellent coverage and photos in your post. It was pretty hard to find amongst the incessant arguing.

Voodoo Jones
12-17-22, 01:50
Nani.

Humtyhump reviewed her and she did not disappoint. I booked for 10 pm and she actually came on time. Very sweet girl. Smile and laugh a lot. She is more of a party girl and we started drinking and dancing to music. Her body is very tight and sexy. Her ass is perfect. Most of the Colombian Girls have sexy ass. As we were dancing we were kissing deeply and I was touching her and also playing with her boobs. Once in the bed she gave me an amazing BJ. It was so good that I told her I want to cum on her mouth and she agreed. We the. Switch position mish, doggy, cowgirl and eventually came in her mouth. She swallows every drop it. I didn't realized she also squirt a lot. The bed was wet and I liked it. We spend some more time chilling and drinking and eventually repeat above session. Very satisfying and highly recommended.Hate to break it to you, but there's no such thing as squirting, it's literally just piss. She pissed all over your bed.

Anyway, how much were the FB girls?

Mtndew704
12-17-22, 02:06
Instagram / social media has brainwashed some of you guys. I'm not fucking some stick with 4+ plastic surgeries and sure as hell not paying hand over fist for it. Stay getting played suckers.

JustTK
12-17-22, 02:34
LOL are you outing yourself as a white nationalist? Wtf is this? I'm here for fun under the sun not white boy fever dreams.Quite the opposite actually. It was a poke against those that fear the GR. I don't GAF bcos I am not from there.

JustTK
12-17-22, 02:44
For the guys who think this is subjective, show me a size 14 or higher beauty queen winner.
.In many cultures, obesity is seen as a sign of afluence. Guys turn their noses up at 'poor' skinny girls. So yeah, there are plenty of larger girls that are ranked high. Maybe USA schools should do exchanges with students from those countries. Hehe.

Look at the girls in this beauty pageant and tell me how many you think are real beauties:
https://www.malawivoice.com/2022/07/28/over-100-beauty-queens-register-for-miss-malawi-beauty-pageant/

Knowledge
12-17-22, 04:03
It is an up and coming neighborhood. The tranvia improved it enormously.


Just replying to the poster that originally asked about it. I stayed couple times in Bombona area, which I guess is technically where this casa is located.

Don't know much about the BA neighborhood but I have strolled couple times at late evening (7-10) alongside the tranvia line from San Jose to Buenos Aires station and I'd say it's relatively safe; it was always lively, lots of people, some street performers, many food places (especially around BA station), bars and some clubs too I think. Got to be extra aware of chicos whizzing downhill at amazing speeds on their bicycles though; silent and the meeting could be deadly.

AmorPorFavor
12-17-22, 04:13
I think its great that some mongers like to save money fucking the fat ugly girls. Cuts down on the competition for the hot ones.

JjBee62
12-17-22, 04:52
I think some men are proud and eager to try to "prove" they have high standards by being overly "tough" in their optics judgments, and in the process lose clear perspective. I have seen Turgid say that there's no such thing as having "taste" when it comes to determining who is attractive since it's all so objective, but I disagree. In my view, you have "optics taste" if people (both men and women) tend to agree with you more often than not when you say someone is attractive (or not). Seeing that this woman is allegedly a Miss Colombia, then in my way of thinking the odds are that more people will find her to be attractive than not. Meaning that if you fall into that group who thinks she's attractive then you have taste. And if you don't? Then you don't have taste LOL! At least not with respect to her anyway hehe!Not at all.

I won't speak for anyone else, but I'm purpose driven. When I'm driving I have a purpose. Even when I'm just driving for no reason I'm still focused on the process.

When I'm rating a woman on a website named "International Sex Guide" then I'm rating her on how sexually appealing I find her. Because it's on a website called "International Sex Guide. " That's my purpose, find women, fuck women. Now if it was on a website called "Do you think other guys think this woman is beautiful" I would have a different opinion.

If I was sitting in a bar with friends checking out the women walking past, then I would point out each woman to the guy who was most likely to find her attractive. What I wouldn't do, because I have clear title to my testicles, is rate the girl a high number based on what I the other guys are rating her. I would simply say "not my type. ".

Of course we could all just throw out random numbers for every girl depending on what we think the majority will say. It would be even more useless, but at least you would be happy.

By the way, beauty contests usually use a very narrow definition of beauty. They don't represent a majority opinion. If you're rating based on beauty pageants you are basically asking Frito Lay what kind of snack is best.

FunForAll37
12-17-22, 05:01
Went to Medellin for the first time last month, stayed 10 days or so. Figured I'd pass along some thoughts. Great trip, will definitely be back.

First off, really liked Medellin as a city. Beautiful, warm, tucked away in the mountains. I liked it much better than Bogota and Cartagena, and I liked the vibe of the people too. I stayed in Poblado and didn't venture out into anywhere halfway dangerous and it felt safer than I expected. Note, I'm well aware feeling safe is not the same as being safe, having lived in Latin America before, but there's clearly a conscious effort in the nice areas to emphasize security to cater to the middle class and travelers and that goes a long way. I think with my natural precautions the odds of anything bad happening were very low.

I rented an AirBNB with visitor friendly security and just invited girls over from Facebook. Very easy to set up and had a girl over every day. Just followed the instructions oft repeated here for adding girls and was patient. I started a year out and had a list of girls to see that I contacted a week and a half out. Honestly, the only thing I regret is that I even sent out an "I'm here" picture post, because I didn't end up responding to a single unsolicited message and I got plenty. I didn't want to waste their time with small talk when I wasn't sure if I'd have time to see them and of the women I contacted proactively, I think every one but one got back to me so I didn't need to build an additional bench as it turned out. Oh well. Hopefully the attractive ones who reached out won't hold it against me when I contact them next time.

Colombian girls will sometimes get a bit of a bad rap here for being late, and I will say in their defense traffic is awfully bad. I think a lot of the girls really are trying to be on time but it's just unpredictable. I of course had late women and cancellations but the cancellations were both at least a few hours in advance and I had about as many girls that were early as were late.

As far as the girls go, it was a mixed bag. Some were kind of cold in person and I even got one holding me back with her hands as I fucked her which I had never experienced before. But others were very warm, eager to please and fun. Not one was what I'd call a bad experience, unless you count the one with the cold who didn't warn me in advance. I really didn't want to get sick and luckily I didn't. I'd say about half asked for condoms for penetration and the other half didn't. My general approach was if they asked about money, I'd specifically outline what I wanted and what I'd pay. If they didn't ask, I didn't bring up any services. I think some of them like the artifice of meeting a guy for a date and being given a gift at the end as opposed to being explicit about taking money for sex. Either way was fine by me. And I had no problems with the girls who didn't bring up anything. We just chatted, fucked, and they accepted what I gave them at the end gratefully. I would say of my two favorite experiences, one was a girl who asked about money first thing and clearly is doing this regularly and the other was a student who just finished her finals for psychology, never brought up money or services once, and let me nut inside her.

The most wild evening of the trip came in my attempt to have a three way. I invited a girl I'd already seen and had a great time with to bring a friend and because I'd been warned here about trios being you just taking turns fucking the two when she said trio I specifically said basically I've heard trios are just the guy taking turns fucking the two girls and I don't want that, I want all three of us fucking together and described a couple acts I'd like, and I said if you're not up for that I'd rather just see you again alone. Well, she said yes I understand you'll get what you want, but I got the Colombian trio I specified I didn't want anyway. Oh well. At least I jizzed all over their faces together at the end. But that isn't the wild part. Her friend showed up at the building without her physical cedula, only a picture on her phone and they had a long conversation with security while I stood by which was pretty embarrassing. I basically tried to encourage the friend to leave and said I'd pay her a little for the trip but eventually they talked the security guy into letting the friend in. I'm still not clear how. Their driver (the brother of the original girl who chauffeurs his sister to her dates) gave them his ID instead. The girl was clearly in her mid 20's to late 20's (she showed me a picture of her 7 year old son later), so that likely helped. Then to make things weirder the two girls started arguing over the course of our session. My Spanish is mid level so I was getting some of it but not all of it and at one point as one of the girls was riding me she was arguing so forcefully with the other girl I thought she might literally physically go after her. It was bizarre. She'd then roll her eyes at me like "can you believe this * when the other girl wasn't looking. Perhaps that's part of why they didn't do too much licking each other's pussies, although they were nice to me the whole time.

Two miscellaneous notes. Rappi is great. Cheap prices and the drivers get there quick because they ride around on motorbikes to avoid the car congestion. It's easy to order any drugs you need from them too, including stuff you can't get over the counter in the US. And second, if you don't like noise, be prepared for it. I was in a quiet area, no parties the entire time I was there, and 15 floors up. But I still needed the white noise on my phone because of the openings in the windows and the fact Colombia doesn't regulate car noises that much so you'll have these vehicles driving around without mufflers in the middle of the night making levels of noise that I think would get them arrested in some US cities. Not easy to avoid.

One question for other people here. I really, really liked the ease of being able to get the girls on Facebook and having the ability to know more about them than just what's on an escort website, rather than wandering around an area where everyone knows I'm there for sex. Medellin seems a little unique in that regard, but what other places offer something comparable, where the online game is pretty ubiquitous, whether on Facebook or Seeking or whatever? Is there anywhere like that among the top Asian destinations? I just so much prefer that to going to a bar or a brothel.

Anthony2023
12-17-22, 05:44
Instagram / social media has brainwashed some of you guys. I'm not fucking some stick with 4+ plastic surgeries and sure as hell not paying hand over fist for it. Stay getting played suckers.Nobody cares what you like. You want to fuck basic bitches good for you. No need to bash the preferences of others.

Nounce
12-17-22, 06:57
I think its great that some mongers like to save money fucking the fat ugly girls. Cuts down on the competition for the hot ones.Your comment is self defeating. Based on your logic, you should go to Brazil where you can get VS mode type much easier and you have less competition because the price is also way higher.

PigSavinBoy
12-17-22, 07:18
A girl I know got stabbed and killed at hotel by fountain two days ago,Do you know more about the circumstances? What happened? Which hotel?

Great report BTW.

Huacho
12-17-22, 07:37
My ideal woman is dress size 0In order to most closely match your IQ?

Combo
12-17-22, 12:57
Your comment is self defeating. Based on your logic, you should go to Brazil where you can get VS mode type much easier and you have less competition because the price is also way higher.Brasil, the land of round bundas?

Eloket
12-17-22, 14:02
I'm in an AirBnB in Laureles. Small place but has everything that was promised. At like $25 per night it'll do.

2 dates were setup. The first one, a Negra in her late 20's, actually came early to the appointment. She's a known FB chicka from my last visit. She didn't disappoint this time either. I tried some more kinky moves and she was all ears. That made me really horny. DATY, BBBJ, 69, fingering (especially the finger in the ass was popular) and various positions ended in making us both very happy. It set me back 250 mil mas taxi.

The second date. A Paisa mid 20's. Also a FB repeat from last visit. She's a bit timid and shy and my communication skills do not improve that situation. We ordered a Burrito from Rappi. The restaurant was like 2 blocks away, but we had to wait 2 hours before it was delivered. Taco House Laureles was the place. The driver said that the restaurant had sent him off to deliver in Poblado before delivering to us. Anyway, after dinner I offered to give her a massage. Clothes went off and joyous groans was heard. One thing led to another. Seriously I might be too old to have 2 shots on one day because this time it was a no go. Or it's the shy attitude with little action from her side (no starfish but not super active). She's very nice girl, next door cute. She put in some effort but not that much feeling behind. Some fake moaning didn't make things better. This time the deal was 200 mil mas taxi. It ended up about the same total as the first date counting the Rappi order.

Popeye is pleased with the game starting up.

Nounce
12-17-22, 15:38
Brasil, the land of round bundas?Haha, but I am referring to the body height and type in this case. One can always find others who spend more. By the same logic, he is in fact calling himself cheap and not knowing it.

Turgid
12-17-22, 15:47
I think some men are proud and eager to try to "prove" they have high standards by being overly "tough" in their optics judgments, and in the process lose clear perspective. I have seen Turgid say that there's no such thing as having "taste" when it comes to determining who is attractive since it's all so objective, but I disagree. In my view, you have "optics taste" if people (both men and women) tend to agree with you more often than not when you say someone is attractive (or not). Seeing that this woman is allegedly a Miss Colombia, then in my way of thinking the odds are that more people will find her to be attractive than not. Meaning that if you fall into that group who thinks she's attractive then you have taste. And if you don't? Then you don't have taste LOL! At least not with respect to her anyway hehe!First of all I will give you the benefit of the doubt and conclude that you meant subjective rather than objective for it is the mantra in many posts that I have written that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Everybody obviously has taste i. e. his taste. If you will go back to the original post you will see that the gist of my disagreement was someone thinking that he has better taste than another. Many have rated the woman you rated a 7 as 5 or less. JjBee62 said about her: "I wouldn't fuck her even if I was drunk, even if no one else was available and she was free. That means she's less than a 5". Do they have better taste than you?
I am happy with my taste. I will not accept anyone telling me that they have better taste than me. Yes, I will occasionally bang a woman I rate less than a 7 but that has nothing to do with my taste, just a matter of how horny I am at a particular point in time hehe.
I still rate my boyhood pin up a 10 at the time the photo was taken and I don't care what any of you guys rate her.

Luminous
12-17-22, 16:01
Most men would fuck pretty much anything when horny. But that definition, is there any women that's less than a 5?


"I wouldn't fuck her even if I was drunk, even if no one else was available and she was free. That means she's less than a 5".

Mtndew704
12-17-22, 16:03
Nobody cares what you like. You want to fuck basic bitches good for you. No need to bash the preferences of others.Wtf is a "basic chica" 99.9% of these girls are broke compared to the average monger.

JjBee62
12-17-22, 16:34
Most men would fuck pretty much anything when horny. But that definition, is there any women that's less than a 5?I spent several years doing just that. Then one horny night I went to the apartment of a girl I chatted a bit with online. It was late, real late. Her online name was "Dollface" so I was hoping for something worthwhile. Wrong.

The apartment was filthy, garbage everywhere. Ashtrays all had mountains of cigarette butts and she didn't stop smoking while I was there. "Dollface" was accurate, if you're talking horror movies. I stayed just long enough to make an excuse and get out. That ended my "anything if I'm horny" phase for about 20 years. Had a pretty good run during that time. Then I was single again and using dating sites. Fucked a few who I normally would have passed on. Then I met another horror story. Missing most of her teeth, chain smoking. Body looked like she was in the early stages of becoming The Blob. And she was ready to fuck, while I was ready to vomit. That was the day before I started mongering.

Now I make very few compromises. There's no reason to. When I'm in Colombia, I can almost always find someone who meets all my requirements. If not, send out some messages and wait. Worst case, there's always a rub and tug at Rio Sur.

JjBee62
12-17-22, 16:50
Got settled into my Provenza apartment last night and decided to take a walk. Between 8:30 and 10:30 there were plenty of girls on Calle 10 and at the west end of the park. Saw a few on the streets around Lleras, but none in the crowds of Provenza, at least none who were looking for dates. There were several very attractive girls early, but later the quality was much less. If there was any doubt about whether some of the girls also work El Centro, several times I heard the psspsspss that many of the girls use along Veracruz.

I even saw Frankenstein out for the first time in years. About 5 years ago she was working the park every night. She was probably cute at one time, before she started getting cheap plastic surgery. She looked terrible years ago and looks worse now.

Provenza was packed with people and there was a decent crowd in Parque Lleras. It doesn't look like the park renovation will be finished anytime soon.

Decided to get a burger at Hooters just to see the incredible beauties someone was raving about last year. There was a tall girl with a cute face, for those who like the tall ones. The manager was the only one who deserved to wear a Hooters shirt. The best one, IMO, was a black girl. Overall, didn't see anything that made me drool.

JjBee62
12-17-22, 18:35
Nobody cares what you like. You want to fuck basic bitches good for you. No need to bash the preferences of others.Look at it this way:

Even if some guys have only fucked "basic bitches", Even if they've only fucked fat and ugly women, they've still had more and better sex in Medellin than you.

You're looking for women (from far away) who have had at least 2 or 3 expertly done surgical procedures, who will be willing to meet and have sex with you. Most of the guys on this board will have 4 fucks or more before you can even get a response from someone. Chances are, almost everyone else will have as much sex as they want, while you'll be lucky to get laid twice.

Just Incognito
12-17-22, 18:55
Great report. Curious about the prices the girls charged and what they looked like LOL.

I love when its rainy in Medellin and I just order in Rappi and chicas for a few days. Heaven!


Had an amazing 2 nights and 3 days in Medellin. Thanks to HumptyHump for your valuable feedback. Since it was a last minute decision he kind a help and guide me through the entire trip including girls, where to stay and where to go to roam around. He also msg me while I was in Medellin to ensure I was ok. Thanks a lot brother.

During my trip I meet 4 FB girls and one girl from the Do Spa.

Keller.

Humtyhump recommend me this girl from FB and I communicated her the day I was traveling. Mind it Immigration in MDE takes long time almost 40-60 min. After the immigration I took the taxi to my Airbnb. Stayed in Laurels and the location was amazing close to everything. I msg Keller after setting down and she said she can be there within 30 min. I quickly took a shower and went out to a pharmacy next door and bought the condoms and had some snacks on a coffee shop. Keller msg that she is downstairs and I went back and saw her waiting. She is so cute and pretty. We hugged and then went upstairs in the apartment. I bought some beer so we started drinking and then she started taking off her clothes. She has a nice curvy Colombian body with sexy ass. Her body was so soft and keep touching and kissing her. We went to bed and she started panting with her pussy. She allowed me to video her pussy fingering. We started DFK and I was squeezing her boobs. It was so nice and soft boobs and her nipples were pointy perfect for sucking. She gave a me decent BJ and no rush. As I was sucking her nipples she put the condom and I slowly insert into her vagina. I find her push very tight and as I was pounding her felt like I was crossing two layer inside her pussy. Great feeling and she was enjoying also. We change to multiple position and finally came in doggy. We relax for a bit and then eventually she left. She was no nice, no drama and very down to earth. She also hooked me up with her friends and told me she does trio with her friend. Next time I will do trio with her. Highly recommended girl. Everything about her was perfect.

Nani.

Humtyhump reviewed her and she did not disappoint. I booked for 10 pm and she actually came on time. Very sweet girl. Smile and laugh a lot. She is more of a party girl and we started drinking and dancing to music. Her body is very tight and sexy. Her ass is perfect. Most of the Colombian Girls have sexy ass. As we were dancing we were kissing deeply and I was touching her and also playing with her boobs. Once in the bed she gave me an amazing BJ. It was so good that I told her I want to cum on her mouth and she agreed. We the. Switch position mish, doggy, cowgirl and eventually came in her mouth. She swallows every drop it. I didn't realized she also squirt a lot. The bed was wet and I liked it. We spend some more time chilling and drinking and eventually repeat above session. Very satisfying and highly recommended.

Sophia.

Next day morning I wanted to see someone as o enjoyed morning sex lot. Found Sophia from FB and she was available. Set up a time and she came to my apartment at 10 am. She is only 19 and have a sexy petite body. She is tall and nice curve and once naked she was to hot. She got some weed and we started smoking and doing short gun. I told her I love sex in weed and she agree also. We went to the room and as I was smoking she gave me nice blow job. We switch turn as she was smoking I sucked her pussy. It was great chemistry. We started kissing, sucking her nipples. She was very Sensitive to Her nipples. But I enjoyed it. Had sex with her mostly on cowgirl, doggy and standing position was very sexy and she was moaning a lot. I eventually came while on missionary. Great experience and felt no rush. One thing I have to stay this MDE girls they love what they do and enjoy a lot.

Elly.

I know Elly from Cartegana and since she loved to MDE decide to meet her. We had a whole night of fucking, dancing, drinking, smoking and other things. She is a gem and has lot of energy to party whole night. We had sex 3 times and it was in between when we were dancing, when we went to bed and when we got up in the morning. She is one of the girl who speak English very well. I didn't need any translator at all. Highly recommended.

Medellin is a gem for me. I will visit again.

DudeNgso
12-17-22, 19:00
Have fun with the middle linebacker built Serena types. Good for you.

Have fun with the girl that has 10 lbs on you. Good for you.

Have fun with the thin model types. Good for you.

Have fun with the homely basux country paisa girl or the dolled up plasticy silicon brickhouse type good for you.

Everybody is happy. But just stop with chest pounding about my preference is the best and yours sucks. It's like a pack of junior high girls buckering. Think about it, how pathetic is your life that you are seeking street cred, confirmation, and attention seeking on a damn puta mongering board.

Pathetic. Take it to the "stupid shit in Medellin" topic because that is all it is.

Huacho
12-17-22, 19:20
One question for other people here. I really, really liked the ease of being able to get the girls on Facebook and having the ability to know more about them than just what's on an escort website, rather than wandering around an area where everyone knows I'm there for sex. Medellin seems a little unique in that regard, but what other places offer something comparable, where the online game is pretty ubiquitous, whether on Facebook or Seeking or whatever? Is there anywhere like that among the top Asian destinations? I just so much prefer that to going to a bar or a brothel.It isn't Asia but Buenos Aires is like that now. All online and tons of it.

RedWaters44
12-17-22, 21:32
Went to Medellin for the first time last month, stayed 10 days or so. Figured I'd pass along some thoughts. Great trip, will definitely be back.

First off, really liked Medellin as a city. Beautiful, warm, tucked away in the mountains. I liked it much better than Bogota and Cartagena, and I liked the vibe of the people too. I stayed in Poblado and didn't venture out into anywhere halfway dangerous and it felt safer than I expected. Note, I'm well aware feeling safe is not the same as being safe, having lived in Latin America before, but there's clearly a conscious effort in the nice areas to emphasize security to cater to the middle class and travelers and that goes a long way. I think with my natural precautions the odds of anything bad happening were very low.
nations?Thank you for the incredible report. This was very informative. I know you basically said you kept things brief when communicating on Facebook, but if you are willing, could you please elaborate a bit more on how you went about starting online communication and setting up dates on the app? Did you just add them and message a price amount as the first message or did you talk to them a bit first? Would be super appreciative if you could share your online tactics because it seems your trip was a huge success.

Elvis 2008
12-17-22, 21:48
In many cultures, obesity is seen as a sign of afluence. Guys turn their noses up at 'poor' skinny girls.Not anymore. Men are subconsciously attracted to healthy women. In the past, the heavier women were seen as healthier. That is not the case now. Even in Bolivia, the poorest country in South America, the models were dress size zero types.


ILook at the girls in this beauty pageant and tell me how many you think are real beauties:
https://www.malawivoice.com/2022/07/28/over-100-beauty-queens-register-for-miss-malawi-beauty-pageant/Most are beauties, but most would be dress size 0 to 4. The exception to the rule is when you have bigger men. Those guys may go up to dress size 6 or 8. One stripper I talked to said, "I have to lose weight. The only guys who want dances from me now are Mexicans and blacks. " And she went from like a dress size 2 to a 6.


Maybe USA schools should do exchanges with students from those countries. Hehe.Those foreign women would get fat here in no time. I cannot tell you how many foreign thin women I have seen bulk up here after a year or two.

I still think the reason there are so many Colombian beauties is because the food in Colombia sucks.

PigSavinBoy
12-17-22, 21:56
Wtf is a "basic chica"Must be a one without all the extra addons like fake ass, man made boobs, fish lips, attached hair etc.

I like basic chicas.

AmorPorFavor
12-17-22, 22:39
Your comment is self defeating. Based on your logic, you should go to Brazil where you can get VS mode type much easier and you have less competition because the price is also way higher.You are the last person in the world that I would take advice from but I will go to Brazil someday anyway because I like beaches and warm oceans. And I will go first class.

ColombiaLover
12-17-22, 23:36
WHile there are some VS models I find attractive, I have never viewed them as being the cream of the crop (and that goes for models in general). Give me a flaca with a pretty face and smile, no surgeries or other work, and not horrible tats. And that's my idea of hot.

We can agree to disagree, but there is not a strong correlation, in my opinion, between cost and looks (including body type). I have my limits on what I pay and I can generally get what I want. And that is not a fat girl, or a girl with horrible tatoos, a tussi user or alcoholic, and / or a used up working girl. I avoid the so-called 10's. They are not hot. To me, hot is natural. And they can be found if you put the work in. And it can cost you less than you think. Sometimes even free (other than taxi).

To each his own.


I think its great that some mongers like to save money fucking the fat ugly girls. Cuts down on the competition for the hot ones.

PremiumBetter
12-17-22, 23:38
Hey guys, I have read quite of this forum and I'm coming to Colombia for first time in 1 week from now, will be staying 40+ days, Medellin to start. Have many trips behind me, but south america for the first time.

I've read plenty about zombie drug and other things that I need to be careful off. I have 2 questions related mostly with security.

Would you recommend when bringking up a girl in my place, should I lock the door and put the key in the safe or is that bit too much? Do you have a different approach? Ofcourse will keep an eye on my drink, don't want to get drugged.

First few days I plan to go around center of Poblado, parque Poblado and so on, would you recommend leaving the phone at the apartment and just take cash with me?

The Cane
12-18-22, 00:48
I meant to say per Turgid (and others too) that it's all so "subjective".First of all, I did mean to say "subjective", and I corrected myself with the above-referenced post.


First of all I will give you the benefit of the doubt and conclude that you meant subjective rather than objective for it is the mantra in many posts that I have written that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Everybody obviously has taste i. e. his taste. I am happy with my taste. I will not accept anyone telling me that they have better taste than me. Yes, I will occasionally bang a woman I rate less than a 7 but that has nothing to do with my taste, just a matter of how horny I am at a particular point in time hehe. I still rate my boyhood pin up a 10 at the time the photo was taken and I don't care what any of you guys rate her.Second, this whole debate started because of you and your inquiry. So don't go and start getting all defensive and salty if people give you responses that you don't like hearing. If you don't really want to hear what people think then don't ask, and especially not in a public forum like this one. And of course obviously everybody has taste. But what's clearly not so obvious is that some have good taste while others have bad taste! In fact, that's a truism often not obvious at all to the ones with bad taste hahaha! You're known for saying somebody else's 10 is likely your 5. Yeah? Well we're still waiting to see some "real" pics of who you've been fucking then. Not pics of Miss Colombia or Raquel Welch (or whoever that is). No, let's see some real tutes you been fucking and then let the court of public opinion decide. All mongers should be prepared to put their ratings where their mouths are if they insist on criticizing the tastes of other fellow mongers.


By the way, beauty contests usually use a very narrow definition of beauty. They don't represent a majority opinion. If you're rating based on beauty pageants you are basically asking Frito Lay what kind of snack is best.Uh, I don't get your Frito-Lay analogy (other than it's another "salty" comment LMAO), but I didn't rate her based "on beauty pageants". Like most everybody else here, I didn't know she was a Miss Colombia until so told. Also, I think I was quite clear in my posts that I don't think the fact that somebody is supposedly a pageant beauty queen is dispositive of anything. I've seen plenty of pageant participants (including winners) who did nothing for me in the sexual attractiveness department. Happy Holidays and peace and goodwill to all men and mongers (tutes too) on earth!

JustTK
12-18-22, 03:16
Must be a one without all the extra addons like fake ass, man made boobs, fish lips, attached hair etc.
.Haha, classic. One that hasnt been enhanced.

Huacho
12-18-22, 03:24
Would you recommend when bringking up a girl in my place, should I lock the door and put the key in the safe or is that bit too much? Do you have a different approach?If I were the woman, this would scare the snot out of me. It depends where you are staying. Some places will keep their ID and not let them leave until they call you and make sure all is well. That is my personal favorite approach.

JustTK
12-18-22, 03:48
Not anymore. Men are subconsciously attracted to healthy women. In the past, the heavier women were seen as healthier. That is not the case now. Even in Bolivia, the poorest country in South America,
Have you been to Africa recently? Still going strong there. Also Pacific. Its a case of wealthier, not heallthier. Fat women, new shoes, satellite TV, all are subjectively desirable items.

MiamiBoy1
12-18-22, 05:41
Look at it this way:

Even if some guys have only fucked "basic bitches", Even if they've only fucked fat and ugly women, they've still had more and better sex in Medellin than you.

You're looking for women (from far away) who have had at least 2 or 3 expertly done surgical procedures, who will be willing to meet and have sex with you. Most of the guys on this board will have 4 fucks or more before you can even get a response from someone. Chances are, almost everyone else will have as much sex as they want, while you'll be lucky to get laid twice.I prefer quality over quantity and would gladly take 1 or 2 memorable sessions with an attractive girl that I really like / crave vs 10 mediocre sessions with centro SW uglies.

BTW you have no clue how much sex the poster had or will have to make such profound statement.

MiamiBoy1
12-18-22, 05:49
You're known for saying somebody else's 10 is likely your 5. Yeah? Well we're still waiting to see some "real" pics of who you've been fucking then. Not pics of Miss Colombia or Raquel Welch (or whoever that is). No, let's see some real tutes you been fucking and then let the court of public opinion decide. All mongers should be prepared to put their ratings where their mouths are if they insist on criticizing the tastes of other fellow mongers.

Centro rats (BBJ, TK, and others) are known for that. Can't wait for them to post pics of the girls they fucked, but something tells me we will not see any. BBJ would rather suck his own dick than fuck a former miss Colombia for free.

JjBee62
12-18-22, 06:07
I prefer quality over quantity and would gladly take 1 or 2 memorable sessions with an attractive girl that I really like / crave vs 10 mediocre sessions with centro SW uglies.

BTW you have no clue how much sex the poster had or will have to make such profound statement.He has yet to venture into Colombia. Maybe I'm way off base, but I always thought it was impossible to have sex with women in Colombia without physically being in Colombia. If you can explain that it'll save all of us a lot of travel costs.

Certainly I'm guessing about how much sex he will have once he gets to Colombia. However, based on the experiences of others there's, in my opinion, a good chance his trip will run into problems.

As for the other silliness, I've never had an El Centro SW, ugly or otherwise. Haven't had many mediocre sessions either. I'm also smart enough to realize that very few people who keep coming back to Medellin are having mediocre sex (from their perspective) with ugly women (from their perspective). They are enjoying themselves. That's why they keep coming back.

Now their sessions are probably different from mine, and they're probably not doing the same women, just as they aren't eating the same foods, drinking the same drinks or shitting in the same toilet. Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you believe all the women you've never seen that are being fucked by guys you've never met are ugly. What matters is that each person finds a way to do what makes them happy.

Oterri
12-18-22, 14:19
The place was rocking a few months ago. Jam packed but was almost deserted on a sat night recently around 8/9 pm. Very few girls, rare tourists. Was I too early?

Nounce
12-18-22, 14:29
Centro rats (BBJ, TK, and others) are known for that. Can't wait for them to post pics of the girls they fucked, but something tells me we will not see any. BBJ would rather suck his own dick than fuck a former miss Colombia for free.I am not doubting the types of women that you said you have fucked.

I think Centro mongers posted more pictures than any mongers that fuck the 9's or 10's. You can find pictures in Wofl62's posts and there are others. There is practically 0 post or very few from mongers that fucked the 9's or 10's showing the pictures of women they fucked or available with the exception of Elvis. I remember you showed an European IG model that is not even someone you fucked or in Colombia. The description about these women is always associated with numbers, and labels. The sex is always "great" but no detail provided on what makes it great.

Nounce
12-18-22, 14:41
Hey guys, I have read quite of this forum and I'm coming to Colombia for first time in 1 week from now, will be staying 40+ days, Medellin to start. Have many trips behind me, but south america for the first time.

I've read plenty about zombie drug and other things that I need to be careful off. I have 2 questions related mostly with security.

Would you recommend when bringking up a girl in my place, should I lock the door and put the key in the safe or is that bit too much? Do you have a different approach? Ofcourse will keep an eye on my drink, don't want to get drugged.

First few days I plan to go around center of Poblado, parque Poblado and so on, would you recommend leaving the phone at the apartment and just take cash with me?I think if you are worry about drugging, you need to separate your important stuff from you so they can't get to it, like a different place. Or find a place that they can't leave without you being conscious. Phone can be considered a safety device too, so buy a cheap phone. You can get a new Samsung phone for about 80 USD in Medellin.

JustTK
12-18-22, 14:50
Centro rats (BBJ, TK, and others) are known for that. Can't wait for them to post pics of the girls they fucked, but something tells me we will not see any.I don't take pics of girls. It doesn't interest me. I don't use a 1-10 rating scale so even if I had pics I would not know who was a 9 or 10 anyway. And lastly, why would I GAF what you or anyone else thinks of a girl I fkd?

MoonShot
12-18-22, 15:20
I don't take pics of girls. It doesn't interest me. I don't use a 1-10 rating scale so even if I had pics I would not know who was a 9 or 10 anyway. And lastly, why would I GAF what you or anyone else thinks of a girl I fkd?I also don't care what a bunch of strangers think about the girls that I see. I don't think that anyone should care. Just see the girls that you want to see and if they are attractive to you, that should be enough. You don't need the validation from a bunch of people you don't know or even people you know. I have had friends criticize some of the girls that I have seen and I don't really care about it. If I think the girl is attractive and we had a good time, regardless of what others think, I would see her again. As many have stated, beauty is very subjective, and one man's 10 is another's 5.

LvZooMan211
12-18-22, 15:23
Hello all, does anyone know if there is a cambio with good exchange rate near San Peter Suites? I will be there in a week and need to exchange some USD. Or is it better to use an ATM?

TIA.

Luminous
12-18-22, 15:24
I only try to rent places with security so they take a picture of the girls cedula before she comes in and it prevents and accomplice from free entry.

I also tip the guard upfront and ask them to not let the girl leave till they call me to confirm everything is ok.


I think if you are worry about drugging, you need to separate your important stuff from you so they can't get to it, like a different place. Or find a place that they can't leave without you being conscious. Phone can be considered a safety device too, so buy a cheap phone. You can get a new Samsung phone for about 80 USD in Medellin.

FunForAll37
12-18-22, 15:41
It isn't Asia but Buenos Aires is like that now. All online and tons of it.Thanks. I shall research further on the right venues (I seem to recall a mention of Seeking being big there once) and pricing as I do like Buenos Aires.

JjBee62
12-18-22, 15:41
Centro rats (BBJ, TK, and others) are known for that. Can't wait for them to post pics of the girls they fucked, but something tells me we will not see any. BBJ would rather suck his own dick than fuck a former miss Colombia for free.I can't fathom where in your oxygen starved brain you decided I was a Centro rat. I've never earned my whiskers. Never taken a street girl in Colombia. Have written about that fact many times. I've been to some of the casas, in Centro and Laureles, but I've probably taken a girl less than half the time. I've been to the clubs in Centro and taken a couple of girls, although not in years (same with the casas). I even went to the Mansion once to see what it's about. About the only unique venue I haven't visited is Loutron.

However, I enjoy El Centro. I'll happily spend hours just walking and watching the people. There's a beauty to El Centro which most are incapable of seeing. Until you can connect with that, you'll just be another lost gringo.

I've mostly been a Facebook guy. Wrote some definitive posts about Facebook. If you've used Facebook chances are you benefitted from my efforts. A couple of years ago I branched out, found a mostly untapped source and have been using those connections. There are advantages and disadvantages, like anything else, but I'm happy with it.

On a few occasions I've posted pics of girls I've fucked. I don't do it often because I usually don't take photos. It's interesting you bring it up because the only photos I remember you posting were of girls who wouldn't even respond to you. Tell you what. When you post a picture of a girl you've fucked, I'll post another of a girl I've fucked.

I will say you must have a remarkable penis. It can read resumes? Wow! Mine just knows whether a pussy is tight or loose, wet or dry, shaved or hairy, etc. It can tell when it's being handled expertly. All the other stuff it leaves to me. I don't get excited by titles, or other people's opinions. I look at a woman and decide what I like, what I don't like and whether I would fuck her. I don't like tall women, or women with big feet. I don't like thick thighs or unusually large breasts or asses. There are other things, but one of the most important factors is attitude. Add in my current mood. My perfect woman could be standing naked in front of me begging to fuck and if I'm not feeling like fucking, she'll have to wait.

FunForAll37
12-18-22, 15:58
Thank you for the incredible report. This was very informative. I know you basically said you kept things brief when communicating on Facebook, but if you are willing, could you please elaborate a bit more on how you went about starting online communication and setting up dates on the app? Did you just add them and message a price amount as the first message or did you talk to them a bit first? Would be super appreciative if you could share your online tactics because it seems your trip was a huge success.I kept it very simple. When messaging shortly before my trip I just said I was going to be in Medellin in a week and a half, gave them a sincere compliment, whether just saying they were beautiful or I liked their smile or whatever struck me about their pictures, and said I wanted to meet them when I was there. And then when I arrived and was ready to see them I'd say I was there and asked if they were available today / tomorrow or tomorrow / the day after or whenever I was looking to schedule. Very direct. I'd then answer whatever questions they had about or make small talk if they wanted to. And I don't have enough experience to know if this made a difference but when they agreed to a time (and a price if applicable), I gave them a set of instructions about the building address, to dress conservatively, my Whatsapp number, to text when they arrived so I could meet them etc. My thinking is the specificity of the instructions made it clear the meeting was real and expected so they'd be less likely to cancel than if we just agreed, "yeah, we're meeting tomorrow, talk then. " As alluded to, I still did have two cancellations over the course of the trip but batting average was pretty high and of those two, I rescheduled one and saw her and the other wanted to reschedule but I was less pleased with how she handled the cancellation so I said I wouldn't have time to see her this time.

Turgid
12-18-22, 16:36
......Second, this whole debate started because of you and your inquiry. So don't go and start getting all defensive and salty if people give you responses that you don't like hearing. If you don't really want to hear what people think then don't ask, and especially not in a public forum like this one. And of course obviously everybody has taste. But what's clearly not so obvious is that some have good taste while others have bad taste! In fact, that's a truism often not obvious at all to the ones with bad taste hahaha! You're known for saying somebody else's 10 is likely your 5. Yeah? Well we're still waiting to see some "real" pics of who you've been fucking then. Not pics of Miss Colombia or Raquel Welch (or whoever that is). No, let's see some real tutes you been fucking and then let the court of public opinion decide. All mongers should be prepared to put their ratings where their mouths are if they insist on criticizing the tastes of other fellow mongers......"....just stop with chest pounding about my preference is the best and yours sucks. It's like a pack of junior high girls buckering. Think about it, how pathetic is your life that you are seeking street cred, confirmation, and attention seeking on a damn puta mongering board.

Pathetic. ".

Posted earlier by another monger. Applies perfectly to you Cane.

MiamiBoy1
12-18-22, 16:52
I am not doubting the types of women that you said you have fucked.

I think Centro mongers posted more pictures than any mongers that fuck the 9's or 10's. You can find pictures in Wofl62's posts and there are others. There is practically 0 post or very few from mongers that fucked the 9's or 10's showing the pictures of women they fucked or available with the exception of Elvis. I remember you showed an European IG model that is not even someone you fucked or in Colombia. The description about these women is always associated with numbers, and labels. The sex is always "great" but no detail provided on what makes it great.Not posting 9's and 10's that a monger fucked totally makes sense. First of all, it would look like bragging. Second of all, who wants to get a shit ton of PMs asking for girls' contact info? And lastly, 9's and 10's are not easy to score, but once you manage to do that, you want to keep them to yourself and not post anything about them, even just a photo, on a public forum.

Me personally, I only share pics with the posters that I know or trust, via PM's.

The Cane
12-18-22, 16:57
I also don't care what a bunch of strangers think about the girls that I see. I don't think that anyone should care. Just see the girls that you want to see and if they are attractive to you, that should be enough. You don't need the validation from a bunch of people you don't know or even people you know. I have had friends criticize some of the girls that I have seen and I don't really care about it. If I think the girl is attractive and we had a good time, regardless of what others think, I would see her again. As many have stated, beauty is very subjective, and one man's 10 is another's 5.Despite what Dom Turgid would suggest, I actually agree with this 1000%. When it's all said and done, at the end of the day go with who you like, and don't give a damn about what anybody else thinks. After all, you paid for that tute and they didn't! Now when somebody else starts paying your bills, then their opinions will matter. But until then, they don't. That said, if you ask me what I think about it all, then I just might be in the mood to tell you. And if I do, then I'm going to tell you exactly what I think, and you have no justification for acting all "butt hurt" about it. You asked. I answered. Do what you like. End of story.

Nounce
12-18-22, 17:02
Not posting 9's and 10's that a monger fucked totally makes sense. First of all, it would look like bragging. Second of all, who wants to get a shit ton of PMs asking for girls' contact info? And lastly, 9's and 10's are not easy to score, but once you manage to do that, you want to keep them to yourself and not post anything about them, even just a photo, on a public forum.

Me personally, I only share pics with the posters that I know or trust, via PM's.That is understandable. That goes back to your post why asking for pictures?

Personally I only go by seeing the happiness in mongers that I met in person regardless of the opinion I have about the quality of the girls.

MiamiBoy1
12-18-22, 17:02
I don't take pics of girls. It doesn't interest me. I don't use a 1-10 rating scale so even if I had pics I would not know who was a 9 or 10 anyway. And lastly, why would I GAF what you or anyone else thinks of a girl I fkd?You don't use 1-10 rating scale, yet you rate girls 4's and 5's left and right.

MiamiBoy1
12-18-22, 17:11
That is understandable. That goes back to your post why asking for pictures?
If one publicly trashes a girl that someone else posted about or fucked, then one should be able to provide us with his own photos. When I see a picture of the girl that I personally don't like or would not fuck, I do not comment or rate her.

The Cane
12-18-22, 17:35
If one publicly trashes a girl that someone else posted about or fucked, then one should be able to provide us with his own photos. When I see a picture of the girl that I personally don't like or would not fuck, I do not comment or rate her.Thumbs up all the way! But also don't get mad if you specifically ask for feedback and subsequently get some that maybe you don't like.

Nounce
12-18-22, 17:43
If one publicly trashes a girl that someone else posted about or fucked, then one should be able to provide us with his own photos. When I see a picture of the girl that I personally don't like or would not fuck, I do not comment or rate her.I happen to think that is not a trashing comment. He was invited to rate the girl and he gave his opinion. On the other hand, I think this is trashing in comparison.


I think its great that some mongers like to save money fucking the fat ugly girls. Cuts down on the competition for the hot ones.

Mtndew704
12-18-22, 18:43
Hello all, does anyone know if there is a cambio with good exchange rate near San Peter Suites? I will be there in a week and need to exchange some USD. Or is it better to use an ATM?

TIA.I prefer to use the ATMs, usually better rates from my experience.

Mtndew704
12-18-22, 19:36
If one publicly trashes a girl that someone else posted about or fucked, then one should be able to provide us with his own photos. When I see a picture of the girl that I personally don't like or would not fuck, I do not comment or rate her.There's 100's of vids on youtube of people walking thru El Centro, knock yourself out.

Lucky Nuts
12-18-22, 21:02
Hey guys, I have read quite of this forum and I'm coming to Colombia for first time in 1 week from now, will be staying 40+ days, Medellin to start. Have many trips behind me, but south america for the first time.

I've read plenty about zombie drug and other things that I need to be careful off. I have 2 questions related mostly with security.

Would you recommend when bringking up a girl in my place, should I lock the door and put the key in the safe or is that bit too much? Do you have a different approach? Ofcourse will keep an eye on my drink, don't want to get drugged.

First few days I plan to go around center of Poblado, parque Poblado and so on, would you recommend leaving the phone at the apartment and just take cash with me?Dude your first trip to south america and you have 40+ days in Medellin? You are going to F*ing love it! I'm excited for you LOL.

You are wise to be safety cautious and just being conscious of the dangers you will very likely avoid them. But hell yes you want to carry a telephone with you at all times (in your front pocket). At a mininum you'll want it to take a phone number from a chica that smiles at you. You'll probably want it to use google translate if your spanish isn't great. And you'll probably need google maps since it's your first time around town. Then there's Uber and Didi for grabbing rides. If you don't have an old phone to bring with you for that I'd recommend you walk down to Ktronix store in Poblado and buy a cheap phone for about $100 worth of pesos. Sim cards and data plans are super cheap here.

Regarding bringing chicas back to your apartment. Personally I only stay at buildings with security and chicas need to register. If you have an apartment without that I'd just be VERY careful with your drink is all. As long as you are ever aware of that drugging danger you shouldn't have a problem.

With that much time I'd tell the chicas you are here for the winter and you don't know when you are leaving. Tell them you are looking for an amiga to visit you at least once a week. Your level of service should be better than the weekend visitor gets.

Enjoy Medellin! Please share your experiences.

JustTK
12-18-22, 21:23
You don't use 1-10 rating scale, yet you rate girls 4's and 5's left and right.I rated one girl as a 4 . Since I was playing along as part of the test. It's not smthg I do normally. I gave her 4 based on my own subjective view of how attractive I find her in compairison to other girls, I. E. Just below average. I didn't count the number of freckles on her back, nor the length and angle of her nose. I also didn't ask her how many exams she passed in school.

Luminous
12-18-22, 21:45
That's funny but I see it differently. I have seen a lot of Latin women that look amazing in their 20's but most of them go downhill really fast by the time they hit 35. If food was bad, they would stay amazing.




I still think the reason there are so many Colombian beauties is because the food in Colombia sucks.

John Clayton
12-18-22, 21:59
That's funny but I see it differently. I have seen a lot of Latin women that look amazing in their 20's but most of them go downhill really fast by the time they hit 35. If food was bad, they would stay amazing.Not the food -- the sugar.

JjBee62
12-18-22, 23:40
Hello all, does anyone know if there is a cambio with good exchange rate near San Peter Suites? I will be there in a week and need to exchange some USD. Or is it better to use an ATM?

TIA.Usually it's better to use an ATM. However, depending on the fees your bank charges, the fees the ATM charges and whether you accept the ATM conversion (don't. Ever), you might get the same or better rate at a money exchange. Davivienda has an ATM close to San Peter, and they have no additional fees. There's a money exchange in Unicentro mall, which isn't too far.

JjBee62
12-19-22, 00:00
Not posting 9's and 10's that a monger fucked totally makes sense. First of all, it would look like bragging. Second of all, who wants to get a shit ton of PMs asking for girls' contact info? And lastly, 9's and 10's are not easy to score, but once you manage to do that, you want to keep them to yourself and not post anything about them, even just a photo, on a public forum.

Me personally, I only share pics with the posters that I know or trust, via PM's.Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you post pictures of Instagram models and claimed those were the types you were getting? Haven't you, many times, claimed other people were settling for ugly girls because they couldn't get the type of girls you're getting? If you're already doing nothing but bragging you might as well put up a picture. It's simple. You blur the face, resize (because if you have a good phone, the original pic is huge) and post.

I've been getting requests for contact info for years, I just don't bother to respond, except for the rare occasion when a girl has asked me to recommend her. I'd guess that on average those requests take up 2 seconds per month of my time.

Anthony2023
12-19-22, 00:04
Look at it this way:

Even if some guys have only fucked "basic bitches", Even if they've only fucked fat and ugly women, they've still had more and better sex in Medellin than you.

You're looking for women (from far away) who have had at least 2 or 3 expertly done surgical procedures, who will be willing to meet and have sex with you. Most of the guys on this board will have 4 fucks or more before you can even get a response from someone. Chances are, almost everyone else will have as much sex as they want, while you'll be lucky to get laid twice.And I'm fine with that because sex isn't the only reason I'm visiting. "more" perhaps, "better" I highly doubt that. I'll be lucky if I still feel like fucking after 3 days.

Anthony2023
12-19-22, 00:16
I prefer quality over quantity and would gladly take 1 or 2 memorable sessions with an attractive girl that I really like / crave vs 10 mediocre sessions with centro SW uglies.

BTW you have no clue how much sex the poster had or will have to make such profound statement.I see it exactly the same. That's why sometimes repeats happen at places like hk because on that particular night I didn't see a girl hotter looking girl.

He also doesn't know how much I'm willing to spend, which for the most part makes all the difference of not only how much quantity but also quality of sex one can have.

DriftClouds
12-19-22, 01:03
Me and my friend live in the States, he is kind of a privileged white man he is not making a lot of money, but his stepdad was a lawyer, so he grew up not worrying about money. And he like to make international friends, he traveled to many weird places, Jordan, India, Medellin (I thought it is weird until I visited). So he knew this colombian guy before facebook were invented. He is gay, his colombian friend (let's call him A) is Bi. But I doubt it. Because A didn't fuck him. But, A smooth talk him into invested on him. My friend invested 60 k USD, to A, to build a house, in Buenos Aires Neiborhood. The first two floor (one room for each floor) are for rent, the third floor is for business use (no room, just a tiny flat floor) A's mother doing some barber shop there, very small business, couple of chairs. Then the 4th floor up to 6th floor are for A and his mother living, kitchen, balcony etc. And my friend get a tiny room without window which he lives there 2 weeks a year, but he says he want to retire early, few years later he will be living there permanently. I really fucking doubt it. But that is what he said.

Because Buenos Aires neiborhood is not one of the best area, and I doubt it is even worth his money, and it is not a big house, I think my friend made a bad deal, but I don't know, maybe the bricks are expensive in Colombia, Idk.

My friend told me I should live there next time I visit medellin, no hooker in the house but I can live there for free for a while. I am like, yeah I couldn't afford living in Laurels for long time but your friend A is very skeptical. I doubt A harm people for a living, but he might know some gangsters friend and profit from hurting people as a middle man, I want to know what you guys have to say about this. A didn't even have sex with my friend, I have no idea why he made such a stupid deal, I am not gay so I don't know, maybe his little room worth 60 K.

JjBee62
12-19-22, 01:30
Me and my friend live in the States, he is kind of a privileged white man he is not making a lot of money, but his stepdad was a lawyer, so he grew up not worrying about money. And he like to make international friends, he traveled to many weird places, Jordan, India, Medellin (I thought it is weird until I visited). So he knew this colombian guy before facebook were invented. He is gay, his colombian friend (let's call him A) is Bi. But I doubt it. Because A didn't fuck him. But, A smooth talk him into invested on him. My friend invested 60 k USD, to A, to build a house, in Buenos Aires Neiborhood. The first two floor (one room for each floor) are for rent, the third floor is for business use (no room, just a tiny flat floor) A's mother doing some barber shop there, very small business, couple of chairs. Then the 4th floor up to 6th floor are for A and his mother living, kitchen, balcony etc. And my friend get a tiny room without window which he lives there 2 weeks a year, but he says he want to retire early, few years later he will be living there permanently. I really fucking doubt it. But that is what he said.

Because Buenos Aires neiborhood is not one of the best area, and I doubt it is even worth his money, and it is not a big house, I think my friend made a bad deal, but I don't know, maybe the bricks are expensive in Colombia, Idk.

My friend told me I should live there next time I visit medellin, no hooker in the house but I can live there for free for a while. I am like, yeah I couldn't afford living in Laurels for long time but your friend A is very skeptical. I doubt A harm people for a living, but he might know some gangsters friend and profit from hurting people as a middle man, I want to know what you guys have to say about this. A didn't even have sex with my friend, I have no idea why he made such a stupid deal, I am not gay so I don't know, maybe his little room worth 60 K.You can find reasonable hotel rooms for under $25 per night. Some might not allow visitors, but you have a room, with windows, and in a neighborhood that is at least more convenient.

Eloket
12-19-22, 02:59
Saturday in December in Medellin. That means party. I had my Negra over for a session during the day. Nice performance again this time including BBBJ and CIM. We're definitely on the same playground. We decided go out party later. She went home to freshen up and change clothes.

Later we ended up at a place I think is called Fonda Cana Brava. Bottle of rum, a couple of sodas and dinner for both landed on $70. The service was excellent. Salsa, reggaeton and other different dance music on the speakers. We danced a lot and had a great time. Exhausted from this we ended up in my apartment. Where we, tired and tipsy, both fell asleep.

Popeye having fun in Medellin.

Turgid
12-19-22, 14:06
Me and my friend live in the States, he is kind of a privileged white man he is not making a lot of money, but his stepdad was a lawyer, so he grew up not worrying about money. And he like to make international friends, he traveled to many weird places, Jordan, India, Medellin (I thought it is weird until I visited). So he knew this colombian guy before facebook were invented. He is gay, his colombian friend (let's call him A) is Bi. But I doubt it. Because A didn't fuck him. But, A smooth talk him into invested on him. My friend invested 60 k USD, to A, to build a house, in Buenos Aires Neiborhood. The first two floor (one room for each floor) are for rent, the third floor is for business use (no room, just a tiny flat floor) A's mother doing some barber shop there, very small business, couple of chairs. Then the 4th floor up to 6th floor are for A and his mother living, kitchen, balcony etc. And my friend get a tiny room without window which he lives there 2 weeks a year, but he says he want to retire early, few years later he will be living there permanently. I really fucking doubt it. But that is what he said.

Because Buenos Aires neiborhood is not one of the best area, and I doubt it is even worth his money, and it is not a big house, I think my friend made a bad deal, but I don't know, maybe the bricks are expensive in Colombia, Idk.

My friend told me I should live there next time I visit medellin, no hooker in the house but I can live there for free for a while. I am like, yeah I couldn't afford living in Laurels for long time but your friend A is very skeptical. I doubt A harm people for a living, but he might know some gangsters friend and profit from hurting people as a middle man, I want to know what you guys have to say about this. A didn't even have sex with my friend, I have no idea why he made such a stupid deal, I am not gay so I don't know, maybe his little room worth 60 K.This is a question best answered by yourself as you know the parties involved and have met them face to face. Nevertheless, you strike me as not being wealthy so that's one thing in your favor but the real issue is does A think you are wealthy? If he does chances are he is going to want something from you as he did from your friend. Even if he does not, I'd be wary.

Nounce
12-19-22, 14:11
...Should I stay at my friend's Colombian friend's house?...I just looked up Airbnb and I found a room with window and private bathroom for about US $70/ week. I think you can do a search and try answer the question yourself because we don't know what is your financial limit.

Nounce
12-19-22, 16:28
Ok, the ratings were from a 4 to a 7. One said she did not look Colombian. Some said she was not their type meaning that they would not pick her in a line up. BTW she is a former Miss Colombia and model. You guys have extremely high taste, LOL.What is your rating of her?

Are you aware of that almost all posts like your original post have a bias?

MiamiBoy1
12-19-22, 17:21
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you post pictures of Instagram models and claimed those were the types you were getting? Haven't you, many times, claimed other people were settling for ugly girls because they couldn't get the type of girls you're getting? If you're already doing nothing but bragging you might as well put up a picture. It's simple. You blur the face, resize (because if you have a good phone, the original pic is huge) and post.

I've been getting requests for contact info for years, I just don't bother to respond, except for the rare occasion when a girl has asked me to recommend her. I'd guess that on average those requests take up 2 seconds per month of my time.If I blur the face, it would make posting pics pointless. Face, at least to me, is super important. One can't rate a girl properly without seeing a face.

I think it was just one time when I posted some Instagram chick for rating purposes, and I said that she was just a random chick that I never fucked.

Some other people (not all people, of course) don't get the type of girls I'm getting not because they can't, but because they are too lazy, cheap, have "pussy is pussy" mentality, lack of self-confidence, etc. This has a lot to do with the age, the older one gets, the lower his standards become.

The Cane
12-19-22, 17:50
If I blur the face, it would make posting pics pointless. Face, at least to me, is super important. One can't rate a girl properly without seeing a face.

I think it was just one time when I posted some Instagram chick for rating purposes, and I said that she was just a random chick that I never fucked.

Some other people (not all people, of course) don't get the type of girls I'm getting not because they can't, but because they are too lazy, cheap, have "pussy is pussy" mentality, lack of self-confidence, etc. This has a lot to do with the age, the older one gets, the lower his standards become.I agree with you about the face. It's all important to me. If I don't like a girl's face then we won't be having sex. I don't care how nice the rest of her is. But I don't agree with you about "the older you get the lower one's standards become". My standards are exactly as they always have been throughout my life, and they will never change! If and when the day comes when I can't pull and fuck the kind of girls I like, then I will just stop fucking. So help me God!

JjBee62
12-19-22, 18:12
He also doesn't know how much I'm willing to spend, which for the most part makes all the difference of not only how much quantity but also quality of sex one can have.Anyone hurt themselves laughing at this bit of "wisdom?

Quantity, especially in Medellin, has very little to do with how much you're willing to spend. If you can afford $100 per day for sex it's possible to fuck 8 women and still have enough left over for lunch and dinner. P.S. There's no need to say "how much quantity. " "How much" and "quantity" mean the same thing.

As for quality of sex, you're even further away from reality. Quality is completely subjective (at least when you're discussing sex). How well rested are you? How well rested is the girl? What is your mood? What is her mood? What things other than sex are on your mind? What other things are on her mind? Where is she on her menstrual cycle? What does she think of you? The list of factors go on and on. How much you're willing to spend has absolutely nothing to do with any of them.

Sometimes it's something simple which completely changes the experience. You can pay the hottest girl in Medellin $50,000 USD for a night of passion and if she gets a message 15 minutes after arrival that her dog just died, quality just went to the $8 range.

There are plenty of guys who claim the more you pay, the worse the sex. That's not true, unless you're approaching with the idea that paying more equals better service.

Good luck.

JjBee62
12-19-22, 18:17
And I'm fine with that because sex isn't the only reason I'm visiting. "more" perhaps, "better" I highly doubt that. I'll be lucky if I still feel like fucking after 3 days.Did you not understand that?

If you've never been to Medellin, anyone who has had sex in Medellin has had more sex in Medellin and better sex in Medellin than you. *After* you've been to Medellin then some comparison can be made about the number of times you've had sex in Medellin.

However, *After* you've had sex in Medellin nobody will ever know if the sex you had was better than the sex anyone else had.

JjBee62
12-19-22, 18:54
If I blur the face, it would make posting pics pointless. Face, at least to me, is super important. One can't rate a girl properly without seeing a face.

I think it was just one time when I posted some Instagram chick for rating purposes, and I said that she was just a random chick that I never fucked.

Some other people (not all people, of course) don't get the type of girls I'm getting not because they can't, but because they are too lazy, cheap, have "pussy is pussy" mentality, lack of self-confidence, etc. This has a lot to do with the age, the older one gets, the lower his standards become.1. You know what the face looks like, so blurring it doesn't detract from anyone else's opinion. At worst they might wonder if the face was as good as the body. Of course if the body sucks, I can understand the reluctance.

2. Actually, you posted 2. One, I believe, was Russian. The other was Colombian and you said she wouldn't respond to your messages.

3. Nobody knows the types of girls you're getting, just as you almost never know the types of girls everyone else is getting. For example, you just recently claimed I'm getting girls from El Centro. All of this is only occurring in your mind.

4. "The older one gets the lower his standards become" might be the stupidest statement you've made, and you've had some real winners. Speaking only for myself, the older I get the higher my standards have become.

It's simple biology. When I was young, it took nothing at all to get me sexually stimulated. An ugly scar? Stretch marks? Sagging tits? Even a stinky pussy didn't matter until after I'd dropped my load. Those things just determined how quickly I made my exit. As I aged, it became harder to overlook the flaws. And at this point, there's a long list of deal breakers.

I'm assuming that is the case with most of the other old guys. I don't see any 50-75 year old guys coming to Colombia to date 40-60 year old women. I don't see fat 40 year olds swinging on the pole at La Isla while old gringos throw money at them.

If you're a financially stable older man, able to afford to visit Colombia, there are tons of women back in the US who would be thrilled to cook, clean and take care of your every need, and many of them are financially stable as well. If our standards drop as we age, why aren't we all fucking Mary Beth and eating her homemade dinners?

Let's make this simple for everyone. Fuck the women you want to fuck. Let others fuck the ones they want to fuck. If you want to post about the women you're fucking, post. If not, don't.

But stop with the ridiculous "I'm fucking better women than you" bullshit. That is unless you're ready to back up your claims.

Mtndew704
12-19-22, 20:59
Did you not understand that?

If you've never been to Medellin, anyone who has had sex in Medellin has had more sex in Medellin and better sex in Medellin than you. *After* you've been to Medellin then some comparison can be made about the number of times you've had sex in Medellin.

However, *After* you've had sex in Medellin nobody will ever know if the sex you had was better than the sex anyone else had.Jesus this dude hasn't even be to Medellin once? Holy shit.

Huacho
12-19-22, 21:29
He also doesn't know how much I'm willing to spend, which for the most part makes all the difference of not only how much quantity but also quality of sex one can have.Oh my goodness. So much wrong with this statement, but if this dude ever actually makes it to Colombia, he will sure find out just how way, way off base this statement is. Quantity sure. Quality no. Just ask any divorced rich guy. Start with Tom Brady and Elon Musk.

Elvis 2008
12-19-22, 21:54
There is practically 0 post or very few from mongers that fucked the 9's or 10's showing the pictures of women they fucked or available with the exception of Elvis.Thanks, Nounce. I am not sure if he has posted pics but Don Carlos and I have gone after similar types, and I and I think others here can vouch that he has sought out the most beautiful women too.

And yeah, I do think more beautiful women can charge more and get more. That should not be news to anyone.

With regards to performance though, that is trickier. If a woman performs well and has reviews and a line of guys wanting to see her, then what you pay for does correlate to performance. The erotic review has reviews rating escorts with regards to looks and performance and for the most part, I found the reviews on target.

The issue with Colombia is that you do not have many reviews so what you pay and what you get is really a crap shoot, and for the most part, more money does not correlate to better performance.

For what it is worth though, my favorite Medellin find was a five foot, 115 pound gal who was more cute than hot who was an absolute tiger in the sheets, and she had a great personality. She was not the type with a line out the door but she would have had one if guys knew how good in bed she was.

I do not know if it was because there were so few tourists in Bogota in comparison but when I met a really hot one in Medellin, they were way more cocky than their hot counterparts in Bogota. This was probably because they had so much smoke being blown up their ass. And maybe because of the Bogota weather and the covering up with clothes, the hotties were not as obvious.

So in Medellin, where I found the best value was in the 6 to 8 or above average looking types who are 9's and 10's in performance. Maybe that is why guys are so defensive when it comes to rating the looks of the women in Medellin. I certainly did not have the best sexual experiences with the best looking women I saw in Medellin.

CaliTexMex
12-19-22, 22:29
Medellin is a well-designed city with an ideal climate. Prices are quite affordable compared with most worldwide destinations. The prepagos scene has good variety to keep everyone happy. Culturally sex is more conservative so you won't see the craziness apparent in locations across East Asia or Europe. El Centro area may provide a more toned-down version of Bangkok for certain individuals. If you're obviously an expat this is not the best advice.

Safety was the biggest concern by far spending a few weeks in Medellin. If you're a white guy you will stand out in a bad way. I did have some minor scuffles in my stay from very aggressive junkies after the sun set. If you are not in very good shape and sober with at least workable Spanish I would not recommend going out alone in Medellin, something I did the entire trip. Everyone from locals to larger middle-aged black American guys thought I was unwise coming alone. I always had a concern any time I was out in public anywhere in the city at any time. My astuteness and aggressive defense when junkies tried to get close I think kept me safe from a stabbing or other robbery attempt. Locals agreed it is acceptable to physically threaten street trash of which I had to do a few times, unfortunately. If you're not ready to throw hands or kicks or run at a moments notice Medellin is not the best place for a solo foreign traveler. Strolling around border towns in the evening in Mexico is a walk in the park compared to this city.

For girls the city is hard to beat in price for quality. I stuck only with casas due to the security issues. Sandalay had the hottest girls on average, followed by New Life. My favorite girl in terms of looks and pussy was Estafania at Sandalay. She was a young 20 year old girl with nice fake tits, dark skin, tight ass, and a very tight beautiful pussy. She did enjoy giving a dance to music to start the sessions. Love how the girls there walk around with barely any clothes on.

My most repeated location was New Life simply due to the large selection and lower traffic / transit area outside. Best girl there was Camilla, an early 30's spinner type who enjoys a good hard pounding. She wears glasses sometimes which gives her an exciting look. Took her a handful of times and she is surprisingly good at massage. Angel, another petite spinner, was an honorable mention.

Most sessions I took the 30 minute (media hora) option. It was 50 k COP ( 10 USD) at Sandalay and 60 at New Life ( 13 USD) which included CBJ with vaginal sex. With good girls I would take the hour option for 22 USD. You are not pressured to drink, buy girls drink, eat, or upsell on services in the room. Never once did I have any pressure or had any bullshit pulled by staff or the girls. Also nicer than Mexico in that all positions and full nude are included in the same price. Never understood why in Mexico girls want another 5 USD for a different position or clothing configuration. No such games in Colombia.

I'm not sure about ever returning, at least solo, outside of a need for a quick romp trip. The location is ideal if a US citizen is located near a major international transit hub into Latin America. For a quick trip you can stomp through several girls in short order and make a quick flight back home. Prices are unbeatable in most places across the world for the quality, to my knowledge and experience. It's not nearly as fun as any other known destination, including Tijuana, as it's difficult to enjoy with all the robberies and druggings going on.

If the security questions were adequately addressed the place could become a top destination. Staying in very nice hotels in a safe neighborhood still won't get you away from the violence as there were multiple shootings right outside the hotel during my stay. The girls are quite sweet, no big egos or bad attitudes, and many shapes and sizes to choose from. The normal people were quite friendly and docile. It is a land of stark contrasts and hope they figure it out. Very rarely do I leave a hotspot without some some longing to stay for more and withdrawals after getting back, but I have not longed for Medellin since heading to the airport. Only other place I felt somewhat similar was the Philippines but still enjoyed that place heavily to Colombia. Good news is if you can make it in Colombia you can supposedly make it anywhere in Latin America. I'm not sure how people put up with that shit and live in that type of environment. Most don't know anything different.

Mtndew704
12-19-22, 23:41
Medellin is a well-designed city with an ideal climate. Prices are quite affordable compared with most worldwide destinations. The prepagos scene has good variety to keep everyone happy. Culturally sex is more conservative so you won't see the craziness apparent in locations across East Asia or Europe. El Centro area may provide a more toned-down version of Bangkok for certain individuals. If you're obviously an expat this is not the best advice.

Safety was the biggest concern by far spending a few weeks in Medellin. If you're a white guy you will stand out in a bad way. I did have some minor scuffles in my stay from very aggressive junkies after the sun set. If you are not in very good shape and sober with at least workable Spanish I would not recommend going out alone in Medellin, something I did the entire trip. Everyone from locals to larger middle-aged black American guys thought I was unwise coming alone. I always had a concern any time I was out in public anywhere in the city at any time. My astuteness and aggressive defense when junkies tried to get close I think kept me safe from a stabbing or other robbery attempt. Locals agreed it is acceptable to physically threaten street trash of which I had to do a few times, unfortunately..What hotel were you staying at where there were multiple shootings outside of it? As far as the junkies in El Centro you just have to look right through them and give them 0 attention. Also like you mentioned you can get physical if need be, the local shop owners do it all the time and no one gives a fuck. From my experience the junkies are scared of you, I can see the fear in their eyes. They won't just flat out assault you in public even at night. I have spent countless hours in El Centro and no one has ever tried to assault me. If some junkie or homeless person is bothering you a lot just dip into a bar / restaurant / casino they won't be allowed in.

The Cane
12-20-22, 00:22
Safety was the biggest concern by far spending a few weeks in Medellin. If you're a white guy you will stand out in a bad way. I did have some minor scuffles in my stay from very aggressive junkies after the sun set. If you are not in very good shape and sober with at least workable Spanish I would not recommend going out alone in Medellin, something I did the entire trip. Everyone from locals to larger middle-aged black American guys thought I was unwise coming alone. I always had a concern any time I was out in public anywhere in the city at any time. My astuteness and aggressive defense when junkies tried to get close I think kept me safe from a stabbing or other robbery attempt. Locals agreed it is acceptable to physically threaten street trash of which I had to do a few times, unfortunately. If you're not ready to throw hands or kicks or run at a moments notice Medellin is not the best place for a solo foreign traveler. Strolling around border towns in the evening in Mexico is a walk in the park compared to this city.

I'm not sure about ever returning, at least solo, outside of a need for a quick romp trip. The location is ideal if a US citizen is located near a major international transit hub into Latin America. For a quick trip you can stomp through several girls in short order and make a quick flight back home. Prices are unbeatable in most places across the world for the quality, to my knowledge and experience. It's not nearly as fun as any other known destination, including Tijuana, as it's difficult to enjoy with all the robberies and druggings going on.

If the security questions were adequately addressed the place could become a top destination. Staying in very nice hotels in a safe neighborhood still won't get you away from the violence as there were multiple shootings right outside the hotel during my stay. The girls are quite sweet, no big egos or bad attitudes, and many shapes and sizes to choose from. The normal people were quite friendly and docile. It is a land of stark contrasts and hope they figure it out. Very rarely do I leave a hotspot without some some longing to stay for more and withdrawals after getting back, but I have not longed for Medellin since heading to the airport. Only other place I felt somewhat similar was the Philippines but still enjoyed that place heavily to Colombia. Good news is if you can make it in Colombia you can supposedly make it anywhere in Latin America. I'm not sure how people put up with that shit and live in that type of environment. Most don't know anything different.I hate reading all of the reports in recent years about how dangerous things have allegedly become in Medellin. I used to spend a lot of time there, and overall it was my favorite big city in Colombia. At that time Botero Park was perfectly safe. It seems that these days one has to be looking over their shoulder even in Poblado! Too bad. I found Medellin to be a nice city with great weather inhabited by welcoming people and beautiful paisa girls.

Fun Luvr
12-20-22, 03:09
I still rate my boyhood pin up a 10 at the time the photo was taken and I don't care what any of you guys rate her.I think Raquel Welsh was many guys pinup 10 in the '60's and '70's.

Anthony2023
12-20-22, 03:47
My general approach was if they asked about money, I'd specifically outline what I wanted and what I'd pay. If they didn't ask, I didn't bring up any services. I think some of them like the artifice of meeting a guy for a date and being given a gift at the end as opposed to being explicit about taking money for sex. Either way was fine by me. And I had no problems with the girls who didn't bring up anything. We just chatted, fucked, and they accepted what I gave them at the end gratefully.

Two miscellaneous notes. Rappi is great. Cheap prices and the drivers get there quick because they ride around on motorbikes to avoid the car congestion.What did you give them? Money or a physical gift? I myself just ask them straight up if they are a female companion, I use the I'd like to take you to dinner approach because I do want to visit some nice restaurants while I'm there either way and I tell them if I like them and they like me we can agree to a price to go back to my place after our night out. I tell them I like to be honest and direct about what I want so we both don't waste our time. Let's be real these girls no the game. So far all the ones I've contacted have told me they are indeed companions and would love to see me.

Do you trust rappi? Do they seal the bag of food and drinks like they do with door dash and uber eats here in the states? Like you said I would hate to get sick too.

Anthony2023
12-20-22, 04:04
There are plenty of guys who claim the more you pay, the worse the sex. That's not true, unless you're approaching with the idea that paying more equals better service.
Everything you said is true, however don't forget it goes both ways. Just like you said something can happen and cause her to change her mood, same thing can happen when you choose to negotiate. The more you negotiate the dryer she could become. From my experiences "outside" of medellin iv'e had no complaints and been happy with what I get, I'm not worried at all or feel I need luck in medellin. Not to mention I'm latino and speak fluent spanish. I'm just stating "typically" the more you pay the better quality of service you get and that's with anything you buy. Like I said for me it's been rewarding but to each his own.

Anthony2023
12-20-22, 04:55
Most sessions I took the 30 minute (media hora) option. It was 50 k COP ( 10 USD) at Sandalay and 60 at New Life ( 13 USD) which included CBJ with vaginal sex. With good girls I would take the hour option for 22 USD. You are not pressured to drink, buy girls drink, eat, or upsell on services in the room. Never once did I have any pressure or had any bullshit pulled by staff or the girls. Also nicer than Mexico in that all positions and full nude are included in the same price. Never understood why in Mexico girls want another 5 USD for a different position or clothing configuration. No such games in Colombia. Before I say anything, nice report. I'm not knocking you in any way to each his own, Just wanted to point out to the other members of this forum that this is a perfect example of how not everyone can relate. I don't even have to guess what age group the OP is in because I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be too far off but he mentioned quality with the above sessions which for him I'm sure he was being honest. But for me and other like minded individuals, the thought of paying a girl to sell her body to me for less than what it costs to buy a pizza would be very depressing for me and not be enjoyable (as of right now). The girls in Mexico, I'm assuming you are talking about the paraditas? Again, not a turn on for me, never been with one and have no interest in that, I just been with the club girls mostly hk. Like I said maybe when I'm 60+ that might be an option. Maybe my standards might change, or like jjb said they might not.

IamLookin
12-20-22, 04:58
Sounds like you spent your time in El Centro which is the arm pit of Medellin. How someone can generalize the entire city of Medellin from staying in that area is beyond me. I have been traveling to Medellin for the last 6 years. I go there alone every 2 to 3 months and stay several weeks or more at a time. I stay in Laureles at a 4 star hotel that offers everything I need at an economical price. I take long walks in the area (parque laureles) and never had an issue. I have friends that are expats living in the area that can tell you the same thing. None of which find the need to venture to the cesspool known as El Centro where you will run into the kind of trouble you described


Medellin is a well-designed city with an ideal climate. Prices are quite affordable compared with most worldwide destinaciones. The prepagos scene has good variety to keep everyone happy. Culturally sex is more conservative so you won't see the craziness apparent in locations across East Asia or Europe. El Centro area may provide a more toned-down version of Bangkok for certain individuals. If you're obviously an expat this is not the best advice.

Safety was the biggest concern by far spending a few weeks in Medellin. If you're a white guy you will stand out in a bad way. I did have some minor scuffles in my stay from very aggressive junkies after the sun set. If you are not in very good shape and sober with at least workable Spanish I would not recommend going out alone in Medellin, something I did the entire trip. Everyone from locals to larger middle-aged black American guys thought I was unwise coming alone. I always had a concern any time I was out in public anywhere in the city at any time. My astuteness and aggressive defense when junkies tried to get close I think kept me safe from a stabbing or other robbery attempt. Locals agreed it is acceptable to physically threaten street trash of which I had to do a few times, unfortunately. If you're not ready to throw hands or kicks or run at a moments notice Medellin is not the best place for a solo foreign traveler. Strolling around border towns in the evening in Mexico is a walk in the park compared to this city...

FunForAll37
12-20-22, 06:08
What did you give them? Money or a physical gift? I myself just ask them straight up if they are a female companion, I use the I'd like to take you to dinner approach because I do want to visit some nice restaurants while I'm there either way and I tell them if I like them and they like me we can agree to a price to go back to my place after our night out. I tell them I like to be honest and direct about what I want so we both don't waste our time. Let's be real these girls no the game. So far all the ones I've contacted have told me they are indeed companions and would love to see me.

Do you trust rappi? Do they seal the bag of food and drinks like they do with door dash and uber eats here in the states? Like you said I would hate to get sick too.I gave them cash after I finished. I suppose some might be okay with gifts but I'm not looking to get into any arguments with an angry girl over $60-$80. I also did bring a few gifts which I gave away as a surprise to the best performers, both to reward them and because I'd be interested in seeing them in the future. There's been some discussion here about girls wanting money upfront sometimes; I didn't experience that. But maybe if you're staying in a less nice apartment that's more likely.

There's no one correct approach so everyone's welcome to approach this however they want. The reason I wasn't as direct in Colombia is there's a mix of pros and semi-pros and I wanted to be welcoming to both. Given it seemed to be about half and half between girls who brought up money, there clearly are plenty of girls who either prefer not to discuss it or think there are men who prefer not to. But I doubt there are a lot of semi-pros who clutch their pearls at men who are super direct.

My recollection was the bags and boxes had sticker seals from the restaurants but I'm not 100% certain. That wasn't something I was concerned with as I don't think there's much incentive for anyone to screw with the food. The restaurants want repeat business and if the food is tampered with Rappi has the info of the delivery people. But if you're concerned about that, it's easy to catch an Uber or inDriver to a nice restaurant.

Latina400
12-20-22, 12:44
Hey guys,

Anyone knows a safe and girlfriendly hotel or apartment?

There are so many choices but its difficult to choose.

My requests:

- max $60 a night.

- safe / security.

- girlfriendly.

- Laureles.

- 3/4 star.

- some view will be nice (terrace not needed).

Also if anyone goes there in February / March / April, let me know. Would be nice to hit El Centro together to get some numero de telefonos.

Knowledge
12-20-22, 14:07
Show some love to Centro. LOLOL!


Sounds like you spent your time in El Centro which is the arm pit of Medellin. How someone can generalize the entire city of Medellin from staying in that area is beyond me. I have been traveling to Medellin for the last 6 years. I go there alone every 2 to 3 months and stay several weeks or more at a time. I stay in Laureles at a 4 star hotel that offers everything I need at an economical price. I take long walks in the area (parque laureles) and never had an issue. I have friends that are expats living in the area that can tell you the same thing. None of which find the need to venture to the cesspool known as El Centro where you will run into the kind of trouble you described .

PremiumBetter
12-20-22, 14:25
Sounds like you spent your time in El Centro which is the arm pit of Medellin. How someone can generalize the entire city of Medellin from staying in that area is beyond me. I have been traveling to Medellin for the last 6 years. I go there alone every 2 to 3 months and stay several weeks or more at a time. I stay in Laureles at a 4 star hotel that offers everything I need at an economical price. I take long walks in the area (parque laureles) and never had an issue. I have friends that are expats living in the area that can tell you the same thing. None of which find the need to venture to the cesspool known as El Centro where you will run into the kind of trouble you described .Hey man,

Would you name the hotel? I'm curious because I'm looking between multiple options in Medellin.

JjBee62
12-20-22, 16:21
Sounds like you spent your time in El Centro which is the arm pit of Medellin. How someone can generalize the entire city of Medellin from staying in that area is beyond me. I have been traveling to Medellin for the last 6 years. I go there alone every 2 to 3 months and stay several weeks or more at a time. I stay in Laureles at a 4 star hotel that offers everything I need at an economical price. I take long walks in the area (parque laureles) and never had an issue. I have friends that are expats living in the area that can tell you the same thing. None of which find the need to venture to the cesspool known as El Centro where you will run into the kind of trouble you described.Your generalization is as unfair as the one you're complaining about.

I've wore out 2 pairs of shoes walking around Medellin. I'd guess I've covered more territory than most. Tourists have been assaulted and robbed, or drugged and robbed in Laureles and Poblado, as much or more than in El Centro.

Let's get it straight, El Centro is not for everyone, especially now when it's jam packed with shoppers. If large crowds bother you, or if seeing people sleeping on the street bothers you, you will be uncomfortable. There's a lot of noise and activity, which can be intimidating. There are always guys trying to get you into their store, restaurant or club. There are beggars and people selling everything. And mixed in are people who will pick your pockets if given the chance.

However, it's also vibrant, filled with normal, friendly people. It's the heart of the city and something everyone should experience. Afterwards you can run back to Laureles or Poblado, lock your doors, take a shower and make up stories about how brave you were to stick your hand into the jaws of death.

Certainly there are risks. Just last night I walked out of Grill Nueva Avenida and a guy with a tray of candy started bumping against me. He was trying to distract me so he could slip my phone from my front pocket. I caught him at it, stuffed my phone back and he backed up. No violence or threat to my life. Just a look of fear when I caught him and a look of relief when I didn't start yelling.

Turgid
12-20-22, 16:24
What is your rating of her?

Are you aware of that almost all posts like your original post have a bias?Many posters on ISG believe that the lower they rate a girl the higher their tastes would appear to be so I conducted an experiment by posting a photo of a former Miss Colombia to confirm just that. You had mfs rating her 4 and what not. My rating is a 7 and possibly higher if I see her in real life.

Nounce
12-20-22, 16:37
... My rating is a 7 and possibly higher if I see her in real life.That rating is based on the photo, right? Is the photo photoshopped in your opinion?

You said it could go higher when you see her in person, but it could go lower too, right?

Nounce
12-20-22, 16:39
...For what it is worth though, my favorite Medellin find was a five foot, 115 pound gal who was more cute than hot who was an absolute tiger in the sheets, and she had a great personality. She was not the type with a line out the door but she would have had one if guys knew how good in bed she was....I have similar observation. Energetic is what I like to use to describe them.

JustTK
12-20-22, 16:41
Many posters on ISG believe that the lower they rate a girl the higher their tastes would appear to be so I conducted an experiment by posting a photo of a former Miss Colombia to confirm just that. This is just a ridiculous claim. No one's taste is 'higher' pr 'lower', simply different.

The Cane
12-20-22, 16:55
Many posters on ISG believe that the lower they rate a girl the higher their tastes would appear to be so I conducted an experiment by posting a photo of a former Miss Colombia to confirm just that. You had mfs rating her 4 and what not. My rating is a 7 and possibly higher if I see her in real life.So it looks like our thinking on this isn't so different after all! LMFAO! Including on how some guys go about rating optics, and why they do what they do. They will deny it, but I've lived long enough to understand and recognize a lot about human behavior. And then when they find out it's Miss Colombia they cry foul and say you tricked us! LOLOLOL!

JjBee62
12-20-22, 17:24
Many posters on ISG believe that the lower they rate a girl the higher their tastes would appear to be so I conducted an experiment by posting a photo of a former Miss Colombia to confirm just that. You had mfs rating her 4 and what not. My rating is a 7 and possibly higher if I see her in real life.It wasn't a good experiment. As I've stated before I use a simple rating system. Do I want to fuck her? If someone insists I convert a Boolean scale to a numeric scale, then they are likely only getting a 4, 5, or 6 (I don't want to fuck her, maybe, or I think I want to fuck her).

Based on the photo I don't want to fuck her. If I wanted to appear as if I have higher standards, I'd have simply done an image search, found out who she was then rated her at whatever level I thought you would rate her. Because the sure-fire way to impress others with your taste is to agree with them.

But I don't care how you rate her. It doesn't matter in the least to me. If you were my best friend it still wouldn't matter. When a girl is looking up at me with my cum dribbling down her chin, I don't wonder what you thought of her blowjob skills. When I'm mid plunge into a tight pussy, I don't ask myself if you would think it's tight or loose. When she walks out my door I don't fret over whether or not you find her attractive. I fuck simply for my pleasure, not to try and impress anyone else.

I did a similar, although I cringe to call it an experiment, a couple of years ago. I posted pics of 5 or 6 girls I knew. Some guys wanted to know where I found them. Some called them ugly or said they wouldn't fuck them for free. The difference? Guys who dislike me disliked the girls. Guys who liked me, or had no opinion, liked the girls.

To add more confusion, I think the girl is attractive. I'd be happy to look at her, but her look isn't sexually enticing to me. As I said before, this forum is about fucking, not looking. Next time clarify the parameters of your experiment.

Muccells
12-20-22, 19:10
I am currently in Medelland. The arrival was a bit shitty because Medellin's airport is currently performing maintenance at night (around 1 am). My initial flight was a bit late so it got cancelled because Medellin's airport shut down at 1 am. I don't know if they are done w the maintenance but if you flight is late you might end up w a cancelled flight.

A few of my friends went semi pros. They told me there is a bunch of mexican guys recruiting Medelland girls. Kicker is that these mexican guys only want them for more than 2 months and after that they get new girls. They can come back after 2 months.

I am always happy to see my friends and I like to think they are happy to see me too. Happy to share their contact info. I feel terrible that I can only see them once or twice because of work.Any contact info you would greatly appreciated, sent you an inbox also.

Jay0940
12-20-22, 19:13
Hey guys,

Anyone knows a safe and girlfriendly hotel or apartment?

There are so many choices but its difficult to choose.

My requests:

- max $60 a night.

- safe / security.

- girlfriendly.

- Laureles.

- 3/4 star.

- some view will be nice (terrace not needed).

Also if anyone goes there in February / March / April, let me know. Would be nice to hit El Centro together to get some numero de telefonos.San Peter Apartments sounds like what you're after. Very chica friendly, no joiner fee, and right in Laureles. Stay on a higher floor to avoid the worst of the surrounding noise.

Just be advised, it's Colombia, not the USA 3/4 star accommodations there are a shade more basic.

Bill
12-20-22, 21:02
Medellin is a well-designed city with an ideal climate. Prices are quite affordable compared with most worldwide destinations. The prepagos scene has good variety to keep everyone happy. Culturally sex is more conservative so you won't see the craziness apparent in locations across East Asia or Europe. El Centro area may provide a more toned-down version of Bangkok for certain individuals. If you're obviously an expat this is not the best advice.

Safety was the biggest concern by far spending a few weeks in Medellin. If you're a white guy you will stand out in a bad way. I did have some minor scuffles in my stay from very aggressive junkies after the sun set. If you are not in very good shape and sober with at least workable Spanish I would not recommend going out alone in Medellin, something I did the entire trip. Everyone from locals to larger middle-aged black American guys thought I was unwise coming alone. I always had a concern any time I was out in public anywhere in the city at any time. My astuteness and aggressive defense when junkies tried to get close I think kept me safe from a stabbing or other robbery attempt. Locals agreed it is acceptable to physically threaten street trash of which I had to do a few times, unfortunately. If you're not ready to throw hands or kicks or run at a moments notice Medellin is not the best place for a solo foreign traveler. Strolling around border towns in the evening in Mexico is a walk in the park compared to this city.


I'm not sure about ever returning, at least solo, outside of a need for a quick romp trip. The location is ideal if a US citizen is located near a major international transit hub into Latin America. For a quick trip you can stomp through several girls in short order and make a quick flight back home. Prices are unbeatable in most places across the world for the quality, to my knowledge and experience. It's not nearly as fun as any other known destination, including Tijuana, as it's difficult to enjoy with all the robberies and druggings going on.Thanks for summing up el centro, Medellin. Very accurate, truthful and well written.

Of course you will have guys that are blinded by sex addiction that can't or won't see it that way.

Nothing and no one will change their mongering mentality.

"see I made it, and so can you!

"they only stole my fake wallet".

"its the cost of doing what we do".

"its only a flesh wound".

IamLookin
12-20-22, 21:06
The issue is not large crowds or shoppers or the guys trying to get you to go into their restaurants or shops. It's about the filth and danger in that area. Too many members here try minimizing or even worse, make it sound that this the normal way of life in Medellin. It is not normal. Walking around deprecation while you keep your eyes wide open on your sorroundings out of fear is not normal. Knife fights happen there often. I know, one of the few times I was there it happened. Hang out there at night? I guess you deserve a medal for something or other? You really think crimes committed in el centro get reported? I know many girls that have been victims of theft and assault there. Sure there is crime in poblado and laureles but those areas will definitely get more news than el centro. Can you provide where you are getting your statistical data that poblado or laureles is more dangerous than el centro? Please share that.


Your generalization is as unfair as the one you're complaining about.

I've wore out 2 pairs of shoes walking around Medellin. I'd guess I've covered more territory than most. Tourists have been assaulted and robbed, or drugged and robbed in Laureles and Poblado, as much or more than in El Centro.

Let's get it straight, El Centro is not for everyone, especially now when it's jam packed with shoppers. If large crowds bother you, or if seeing people sleeping on the street bothers you, you will be uncomfortable. There's a lot of noise and activity, which can be intimidating. There are always guys trying to get you into their store, restaurant or club. There are beggars and people selling everything. And mixed in are people who will pick your pockets if given the chance.

However, it's also vibrant, filled with normal, friendly people. It's the heart of the city and something everyone should experience. Afterwards you can run back to Laureles or Poblado, lock your doors, take a shower and make up stories about how brave you were to stick your hand into the jaws of death.

Certainly there are risks. Just last night I walked out of Grill Nueva Avenida and a guy with a tray of candy started bumping against me. He was trying to distract me so he could slip my phone from my front pocket. I caught him at it, stuffed my phone back and he backed up. No violence or threat to my life. Just a look of fear when I caught him and a look of relief when I didn't start yelling..

Knowledge
12-20-22, 23:27
Knife fights are not at all unusual in Centro, especially in Plaza Botero and Parque Bolivar. That said, I don't find them difficult to avoid.


The issue is not large crowds or shoppers or the guys trying to get you to go into their restaurants or shops. It's about the filth and danger in that area. Too many members here try minimizing or even worse, make it sound that this the normal way of life in Medellin. It is not normal. Walking around deprecation while you keep your eyes wide open on your sorroundings out of fear is not normal. Knife fights happen there often. I know, one of the few times I was there it happened. Hang out there at night? I guess you deserve a medal for something or other? You really think crimes committed in el centro get reported? I know many girls that have been victims of theft and assault there. Sure there is crime in poblado and laureles but those areas will definitely get more news than el centro. Can you provide where you are getting your statistical data that poblado or laureles is more dangerous than el centro? Please share that..

Turgid
12-21-22, 00:08
That rating is based on the photo, right? Is the photo photoshopped in your opinion?

You said it could go higher when you see her in person, but it could go lower too, right?Obviously the rating is on the photo and I can't say whether it is slightly photoshopped, severely photoshopped or not at all and you are quite right the rating in the flesh could possibly go down as well. I have actually seen in the flesh two Miss Universes and one Miss World, one Miss Universe and the Miss World I found very hot and was attracted to. The other Miss Universe was not really my type but she had an amazing body and I could see why people could think her face was really beautiful and I would have no objection to her being rated highly.

MaddTraveler
12-21-22, 00:36
The issue is not large crowds or shoppers or the guys trying to get you to go into their restaurants or shops. It's about the filth and danger in that area. Too many members here try minimizing or even worse, make it sound that this the normal way of life in Medellin. It is not normal. Walking around deprecation while you keep your eyes wide open on your sorroundings out of fear is not normal. Knife fights happen there often. I know, one of the few times I was there it happened. Hang out there at night? I guess you deserve a medal for something or other? You really think crimes committed in el centro get reported? I know many girls that have been victims of theft and assault there. Sure there is crime in poblado and laureles but those areas will definitely get more news than el centro. Can you provide where you are getting your statistical data that poblado or laureles is more dangerous than el centro? Please share that..If you're a thief or a local struggling in Medellin, and wanted to target gringos or a group of people that you either despise or know has extra cash, where would you go? It's all over the news, 25 gringo or so killed in Medellin in 2022 alone approx 9 or 10 were violent crimes. None were in centro. All targeted from airport, tinder meets, or el Poblado since that's the concentrated area. Even a headless chicken could understand that logic. Centro is not the safest but as a gringo your not safer in el Poblado. I get harassed by cops all the time in that area to see if I have drugs. Not once in centro. These are facts.

LoveItHere69
12-21-22, 00:39
They won't just flat out assault you in public even at night. I have spent countless hours in El Centro and no one has ever tried to assault me. If some junkie or homeless person is bothering you a lot just dip into a bar / restaurant / casino they won't be allowed in.I stayed at Boulevard Botero in front of the church on the 2nd or 3rd floor for a month in the window room. Spent 3 months at the hotel (red, white, black) on the side of the church before it changed to ST only rooms. I was on the second floor in the large window room. I can assure everyone that I saw more for more hours than anyone else. You are wrong!

I was with a sweet new girl around age 19 5 different times. Then left Colombia and returned 7 months later and she had new older (30+) friends. She was not worth a shit after her new friends messed her up. One night looking out the window with the lights off I saw her being used as sexy bait to get this drunk guy around the corner of the church so the older girls could rob him. They tried getting in his backpack while the young sexy girl flirted with him. They gave up after 15 minutes. But I guarantee he did not make it home with all his stuff.

Combo
12-21-22, 02:31
Your generalization is as unfair as the one you're complaining about.

I've wore out 2 pairs of shoes walking around Medellin. I'd guess I've covered more territory than most. Tourists have been assaulted and robbed, or drugged and robbed in Laureles and Poblado, as much or more than in El Centro.

Let's get it straight, El Centro is not for everyone, especially now when it's jam packed with shoppers. If large crowds bother you, or if seeing people sleeping on the street bothers you, you will be uncomfortable. There's a lot of noise and activity, which can be intimidating. There are always guys trying to get you into their store, restaurant or club. There are beggars and people selling everything. And mixed in are people who will pick your pockets if given the chance.

However, it's also vibrant, filled with normal, friendly people. It's the heart of the city and something everyone should experience. Afterwards you can run back to Laureles or Poblado, lock your doors, take a shower and make up stories about how brave you were to stick your hand into the jaws of death.

Certainly there are risks. Just last night I walked out of Grill Nueva Avenida and a guy with a tray of candy started bumping against me. He was trying to distract me so he could slip my phone from my front pocket. I caught him at it, stuffed my phone back and he backed up. No violence or threat to my life. Just a look of fear when I caught him and a look of relief when I didn't start yelling.I agree. Most visits I'll hit Centro one day or night just to mix things up. Same thing with La Isla and other venues in the city. I don't think most of us use one venue exclusively. A variety of approaches is fun.

JustTK
12-21-22, 04:38
Centro is not the safest but as a gringo your not safer in el Poblado. I get harassed by cops all the time in that area to see if I have drugs. Not once in centro. These are facts.There are plenty of tourists in Centro these days. One key difference is that many of them come in groups w tour leaders, and that reduces the risk substantially.

Lefeu
12-21-22, 04:45
I hate reading all of the reports in recent years about how dangerous things have allegedly become in Medellin. I used to spend a lot of time there, and overall it was my favorite big city in Colombia. At that time Botero Park was perfectly safe. It seems that these days one has to be looking over their shoulder even in Poblado! Too bad. I found Medellin to be a nice city with great weather inhabited by welcoming people and beautiful paisa girls.I think CaliTexMex is painting a false, scary picture of Medellin. I go there every year for at least 10 years and I never found that city as dangerous as folks here are painting it.

In fact, I just got back to the US early this month after a 2. 5 week stay. I never felt in danger at any time. I did not venture in centro on this trip, but I have on many other trips. IMO, one just needs to exercise caution. Medellin is a fun city, and relatively safe. Definitely safer than Tijuana, Mexico, in my opinion.

Combo
12-21-22, 05:16
What hotel were you staying at where there were multiple shootings outside of it? As far as the junkies in El Centro you just have to look right through them and give them 0 attention. Also like you mentioned you can get physical if need be, the local shop owners do it all the time and no one gives a fuck. From my experience the junkies are scared of you, I can see the fear in their eyes. They won't just flat out assault you in public even at night. I have spent countless hours in El Centro and no one has ever tried to assault me. If some junkie or homeless person is bothering you a lot just dip into a bar / restaurant / casino they won't be allowed in.I witnessed an assault on a backpacker en el Centro en broad daylight. None of the pedestrians in the area batted an eye.

That said, I never had a problem en el Centro. But you have to pay attention to what’s around you and take that x3 if it’s after dark

JjBee62
12-21-22, 06:11
Knife fights are not at all unusual in Centro, especially in Plaza Botero and Parque Bolivar. That said, I don't find them difficult to avoid.So that's why you carry a chainsaw?

MiamiBoy1
12-21-22, 06:17
It wasn't a good experiment. As I've stated before I use a simple rating system. Do I want to fuck her? If someone insists I convert a Boolean scale to a numeric scale, then they are likely only getting a 4, 5, or 6 (I don't want to fuck her, maybe, or I think I want to fuck her).

Based on the photo I don't want to fuck her. If I wanted to appear as if I have higher standards, I'd have simply done an image search, found out who she was then rated her at whatever level I thought you would rate her. Because the sure-fire way to impress others with your taste is to agree with them.

To add more confusion, I think the girl is attractive. I'd be happy to look at her, but her look isn't sexually enticing to me. As I said before, this forum is about fucking, not looking. Next time clarify the parameters of your experiment.Your own "simple" rating system is useless for other mongers. Let's say, you went to La Isla on day X, and you want to write a report about it and share your experience. How would you describe the talent on the day you went there, so that other posters or newbies, at least had an idea of the quality (optics) of talent there? It would be something like, hmmm, out of 100 girls, there were a few I would fuck, a few I would maybe fuck, and the rest I would not fuck? Very "informative". And your desire to session with La Isla girl would not only depend on the talent there, but also on other factors. How tired or horny you were, money or budget situation, etc.

You think the girl on the photo was attractive, but still rated her 4 or 5, confusing everybody here. If you don't use 1-10 scale, don't rate the girls according to that scale. Your desire to fuck her has nothing to do with her objective attractiveness.

Anthony2023
12-21-22, 08:24
Your own "simple" rating system is useless for other mongers. Let's say, you went to La Isla on day X, and you want to write a report about it and share your experience. How would you describe the talent on the day you went there, so that other posters or newbies, at least had an idea of the quality (optics) of talent there? It would be something like, hmmm, out of 100 girls, there were a few I would fuck, a few I would maybe fuck, and the rest I would not fuck? Very "informative". And your desire to session with La Isla girl would not only depend on the talent there, but also on other factors. How tired or horny you were, money or budget situation, etc.

You think the girl on the photo was attractive, but still rated her 4 or 5, confusing everybody here. If you don't use 1-10 scale, don't rate the girls according to that scale. Your desire to fuck her has nothing to do with her objective attractiveness.Bro you are wasting your time writing back to them. Some of these guys are so old they probably don't even know who J balvin let alone any of the less known artist are in Colombia LOL. Yet they claim they receive better chemistry and better sex than others lmao. Let them think that. And if they think music doesn't have any effect with connecting and vibing with these girls they are only lying to themselves. Let them just pretend they know the lyrics and believe they are having some sort of emotional connection LOL.

Huacho
12-21-22, 11:35
Your desire to fuck her has nothing to do with her subjective attractiveness.Fixed that for you! Attractiveness is just flat out NOT objective. As an example, South Sea Islanders (Samoa, Fiji, etc.) tend to think, the bigger the better. There is an African tribe where attaining beauty involves putting rings around your neck to stretch it. Maybe it helps with deep throat or something but a lot of people would just think it was weird. I don't like plastic surgery, lots of makeup, lots of perfume, or lots of tattoos. So if I think a woman with fake tits, two kilos of mascara and three big tramp stamps is unattractive, that is subjective because someone else (and yes, probably someone younger) might think she is hawt AF. Objectively, we could count the tramp stamps, weigh the mascara, or measure the fake tits.

Nounce
12-21-22, 13:18
Obviously the rating is on the photo and I can't say whether it is slightly photoshopped, severely photoshopped or not at all and you are quite right the rating in the flesh could possibly go down as well. I have actually seen in the flesh two Miss Universes and one Miss World, one Miss Universe and the Miss World I found very hot and was attracted to. The other Miss Universe was not really my type but she had an amazing body and I could see why people could think her face was really beautiful and I would have no objection to her being rated highly.That is what I am trying to get to. I think the photo is photoshopped, so the rating will go down to below 7. Then for example, if I prefer girls with dark skin, the rating can go down more. RIght? At this point, it will be close to 4.

If you show two photos with different skin colors, then you may come to a different conclusion.

Turgid
12-21-22, 14:35
That is what I am trying to get to. I think the photo is photoshopped, so the rating will go down to below 7. Then for example, if I prefer girls with dark skin, the rating can go down more. RIght? At this point, it will be close to 4.

If you show two photos with different skin colors, then you may come to a different conclusion.When one really considers it rating a girl based on a photo is a waste of time. As a matter of fact similarly even rating a girl one has seen in the flesh. I have no problem with a guy rating a girl I think is a 3 as a 9. I am happy for him as he may very well think a girl I rate as a 9 is a 3. Rating girls is an exercise in folly if taken seriously.

Eszpresszo
12-21-22, 16:17
When one really considers it rating a girl based on a photo is a waste of time. As a matter of fact similarly even rating a girl one has seen in the flesh. I have no problem with a guy rating a girl I think is a 3 as a 9. I am happy for him as he may very well think a girl I rate as a 9 is a 3. Rating girls is an exercise in folly if taken seriously.Its an exercise in male immaturity. I'm old myself; old enough to remember when this numerical rating of women's appearance was a trend. The late 70's. It even sparked a popular country song by Bobby Bare, called "Numbers". (check it out, it's funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8WKEs6y8qw). And the Blake Edwards film, "10" which is worth a watch too for Dudley Moore's performance. Teen girls filled the mall where I worked with ridiculous t-shirts marked with a large 10, even though it was always wishful thinking on their part.

But, that folly passed like all other trends (like the "Pet Rock") and by the end of the 20th century, rating girls by numbers was relegated to adolescent males, for the most part. Which brings us to an important point I need to make here. If you are still immature enough to use numbers, you are too young for this hobby. Yes, that's right. Punting is an old man's hobby. If you are young, you can still be and should be pursuing relationships with ordinary civilian girls while you can, before their attitude turns toxic. When there are still good women worth having and available (because they get scarce in their 30's and what is left over can be dicey).

Punters have typically been mature men like myself, who still crave young women and of course, married men who need something other than their spouse to suit their carnal needs. All of the GPS in Brazil, whom I have queried about their client base have told me the same thing. 90% of their clients are married and usually older men. Because if you are single young man in Brazil, you are living in a nation full of fun women. Anytime I've come across fellow punters in South America (usually entering or leaving a brothel) my counterparts are usually mature like myself. This has happened in Argentina, Brazil and Colombia. And even in Pattaya, which is like the Disney World for males, the average age of the male visitor seems well over 30, or 40 even.

I never got serious about punting until I got divorced at the ripe age of 57, and found myself outside of the league of hot, young sluts. Not to mention that divorce left me near broke for a few years. Punting turned out to more cost efficient and less frustrating than dating.

That said, if you are under 40 and pursuing some fap fantasy about paying for sex, you are wasting your life. All I can say is go find a girlfriend, while you still can.

Mtndew704
12-21-22, 16:44
I stayed at Boulevard Botero in front of the church on the 2nd or 3rd floor for a month in the window room. Spent 3 months at the hotel (red, white, black) on the side of the church before it changed to ST only rooms. I was on the second floor in the large window room. I can assure everyone that I saw more for more hours than anyone else. You are wrong!

I was with a sweet new girl around age 19 5 different times. Then left Colombia and returned 7 months later and she had new older (30+) friends. She was not worth a shit after her new friends messed her up. One night looking out the window with the lights off I saw her being used as sexy bait to get this drunk guy around the corner of the church so the older girls could rob him. They tried getting in his backpack while the young sexy girl flirted with him. They gave up after 15 minutes. But I guarantee he did not make it home with all his stuff.Well yeah being alone wasted at night in that area is asking for trouble, that's his mistake. Also he had backpack on which to them screams he's got something valuable on him.


I witnessed an assault on a backpacker en el Centro en broad daylight. None of the pedestrians in the area batted an eye.

That said, I never had a problem en el Centro. But you have to pay attention to whats around you and take that x3 if its after darkI have seen locals get assaulted in broad daylight but never a foreigner. I have heard stories though but it usually involves some issue in regards to money, drugs, females, or they are just being obnoxious and super flashy. But with that being said yeah I guess its possible for a foreigner to get robbed in broad daylight for no reason, I just never seen it.

Nounce
12-21-22, 16:58
...In fact, I just got back to the US early this month after a 2. 5 week stay. I never felt in danger at any time. ...It's a probability and can be random. I have walked the same route more than 50 times, and felt no danger at all. Until the 51st time when I was blocked by 2 men at 10 am, and not in Centro. I am sure I won't feel that comfortable walking the same route if this happens to me the first time I walked the route. So one must take that into consideration. People react to incident differently. Some people are calm and collected like the member that was robbed by Tinder date. Some would leave and never return.

Elvis 2008
12-21-22, 19:05
Attractiveness is just flat out NOT objective. As an example, South Sea Islanders (Samoa, Fiji, etc.) tend to think, the bigger the better. There is an African tribe where attaining beauty involves putting rings around your neck to stretch it. Maybe it helps with deep throat or something but a lot of people would just think it was weird. I don't like plastic surgery, lots of makeup, lots of perfume, or lots of tattoos. So if I think a woman with fake tits, two kilos of mascara and three big tramp stamps is unattractive, that is subjective because someone else (and yes, probably someone younger) might think she is hawt AF.When I was competing for the hottest women in Colombia, it is true that it scared me tremendously to be competing against South Sea Islanders, African tribesman, and guys like you Huacho. / Sarc.

And seeing as how you like women with rings around their necks and fat Samoan women, what are you doing in a Colombia forum?

Mr Enternational
12-21-22, 20:13
Bro you are wasting your time writing back to them. Some of these guys are so old they probably don't even know who J balvin let alone any of the less known artist are in Colombia LOL. Yet they claim they receive better chemistry and better sex than others lmao. Let them think that. And if they think music doesn't have any effect with connecting and vibing with these girls they are only lying to themselves. Let them just pretend they know the lyrics and believe they are having some sort of emotional connection LOL.I have had tons of normal girlfriends in Colombia and one thing I have never needed to connect or vibe with them is music. We do a thing called talk to each other. I would even be tempted to say that you have to play all of this music to avoid having to converse with each other because you probably do not have shit in common in the first place. Just because the taxi driver plays Bad Bunny does not mean we are establishing a connection and vibing while I am riding in his car.

Mr Enternational
12-21-22, 20:22
Fixed that for you! Attractiveness is just flat out NOT objective. I don't like plastic surgery, lots of makeup, lots of perfume, or lots of tattoos. So if I think a woman with fake tits, two kilos of mascara and three big tramp stamps is unattractive, that is subjective because someone else (and yes, probably someone younger) might think she is hawt AF. Objectively, we could count the tramp stamps, weigh the mascara, or measure the fake tits.I am the exact same way. Every time I read a report of how hot the chick was then I scroll and click on the pictures to see a chick with a bunch of tattoos I am like oh god no. My eyes see that shit and I automatically can not look any further to see if there is any underlying beauty. It is just not SUBjectively (which means only MY opinion) attractive to me. Like you said, if we could count the tattoos and come to an convention that 10 tattoos or more equal attractive, then we would be on to some OBjective standards.

IamLookin
12-22-22, 00:07
Of course if you are a thief you want to target rich areas. It only makes sense. So does that mean I should not go to the upper west side of Manhattan and instead go to Hunts Point NY? Just to be clear when you wrote 25 killed in Medellin where are you getting that number? If you check El Colombiano newspaper, as of October there were 20 extranjero deaths. This includes Americans, Dominicans, Spaniards, and the UK. This does not mean they were all murdered in Poblado. The breakdown according to the paper is 3 were homicide related, 1 traffic accident, 2 from cheap unsafe surgeries, there was also 2 hit jobs related to drug deals. The rest were mainly criminal / drug related. El Centro is a haven for thieves to quickly move and attack mostly the poor that go there. The paper also mentioned that numbers are not kept for the illegals that are frequently targeted or involved. Poblado and Laureles are not completely safe by any means but please lets not mislead readers of el centro. It is a dirty dingy place.


If you're a thief or a local struggling in Medellin, and wanted to target gringos or a group of people that you either despise or know has extra cash, where would you go? It's all over the news, 25 gringo or so killed in Medellin in 2022 alone approx 9 or 10 were violent crimes. None were in centro. All targeted from airport, tinder meets, or el Poblado since that's the concentrated area. Even a headless chicken could understand that logic. Centro is not the safest but as a gringo your not safer in el Poblado. I get harassed by cops all the time in that area to see if I have drugs. Not once in centro. These are facts..

PremiumBetter
12-22-22, 00:56
Hey guys, what would be your prefered way to hit up on local girls in Medellin during the day? Shopping center or something else? I was thinking of Centro Comercial Santa Fe.

JustTK
12-22-22, 01:03
If you check El Colombiano newspaper, as of October there were 20 extranjero deaths. This includes Americans, Dominicans, Spaniards, and the UK.
Does it give a breakdown by region of the city? Although we might think most tourists stay in Poblado, I doubt that is true. Maybe most gringos stay there, but I doubt most Latinos stay there. And I bet the biggest number of tourists would be Latinos.

JjBee62
12-22-22, 01:08
Bro you are wasting your time writing back to them. Some of these guys are so old they probably don't even know who J balvin let alone any of the less known artist are in Colombia LOL. Yet they claim they receive better chemistry and better sex than others lmao. Let them think that. And if they think music doesn't have any effect with connecting and vibing with these girls they are only lying to themselves. Let them just pretend they know the lyrics and believe they are having some sort of emotional connection LOL.Seriously? You and MiamiBoy are the only ones claiming to get better sex and better connections. You just fucking did it.

Better is subjective. The sex I get is only better or worse than other sex that I've gotten. There is no way to compare the sex you may someday get to the sex I'm getting. I use my penis. I assume you have your own penis and use that. I use my brain. I'm not sure what you have which is comparable, but you might use whatever that is.

All of this shit takes place in the brain. The rest of your body just has nerve receptors which transmit electrical impulses. Your brain then decides what all that means. Since all of us are using different brains (and different amounts of those brains) every single situation is unique to each individual.

If I'm fucking the women who are most attractive to me, you're fucking the women who are most attractive to you, and MiamiBoy is fucking the women who are most attractive to him, who is fucking the most attractive girls? 3 completely different body types, probably 3 completely different types of hair, levels of makeup and other things. Which group is the most attractive?

The answer is:

It doesn't matter.

P.S. Try Morat. If you just stick with the overplayed crap you're not going to impress anyone. Also, you would be amazed at how many Colombian girls really dig 70's, 80's and 90's Classic Rock. They also get into many Contemporary US artists (spent much of the last 24 hours with my car full of Colombians and my girlfriend was choosing the music).

IamLookin
12-22-22, 01:43
Unfortunately there is no breakdown given by area. I do have these paragraphs from Colombia Reports.

"Robberies are most common in the city's downtown area where hundreds of thousands of people visit every day to go to work. Affluent districts like Poblado and Laureles / Estadio have also become popular attractions for robbers.

Homicides
Medellins homicide rate has increased after hitting an all-time low in 2015, mainly because of an escalating turf war between gangs that are aligned with local crime syndicate the Oficina de Envigado, and their paramilitary rivals, the AGC, who control gangs in the west of the city.

Medellins downtown area has always had the citys highest homicide rate because it is where most drug dealing, fencing and contraband trading takes place.”


Does it give a breakdown by region of the city? Although we might think most tourists stay in Poblado, I doubt that is true. Maybe most gringos stay there, but I doubt most Latinos stay there. And I bet the biggest number of tourists would be Latinos..

Dazneak
12-22-22, 03:02
Hi Mongers.,

I've been lurking for a little while on this forum, and after reading so many forum posts decided to take the plunge to visit in April. I have always found it a bit confusing on where to find that first person on Facebook to add. Any advice would be appreciated!!

Zeos1
12-22-22, 04:00
Hey guys, what would be your prefered way to hit up on local girls in Medellin during the day? Shopping center or something else? I was thinking of Centro Comercial Santa Fe.If you are successful hanging out in malls picking up women at home you may be able to in another country. Who knows.

Anthony2023
12-22-22, 04:26
I have had tons of normal girlfriends in Colombia and one thing I have never needed to connect or vibe with them is music. We do a thing called talk to each other. I would even be tempted to say that you have to play all of this music to avoid having to converse with each other because you probably do not have shit in common in the first place. Just because the taxi driver plays Bad Bunny does not mean we are establishing a connection and vibing while I am riding in his car.It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out any girl will have more chemistry and vibe better (thus more than likely have better sex) with someone she has more in common with oppose to being with someone she has very little in common with and can't relate to. You can choose not to believe that, but that is a simple fact.

Anthony2023
12-22-22, 05:09
Seriously? You and MiamiBoy are the only ones claiming to get better sex and better connections. You just fucking did it.

Also, you would be amazed at how many Colombian girls really dig 70's, 80's and 90's Classic Rock. They also get into many Contemporary US artists (spent much of the last 24 hours with my car full of Colombians and my girlfriend was choosing the music).How I'm I claiming to have better sex out there if I haven't even landed there yet? LOL.

I'm sorry to burst your bubble jb but when you compare someone like you (60 I'm guessing white) vs someone like me (latino, 35), more than likely these 18-35 yr old (latina girls) are going to have better chemistry and more in common with some one like myself. That's pretty common sense. Same as if I was talking to a 50+ yr old white woman, you would more than likely have more chemistry and things in common with her. For someone that's older I would of thought you would be smarter than this jb. Do you honestly believe these girls aren't putting on a show for you? You should know they just see you as a gringo ATM just like everybody else. They are not going to be able to relate to you as much as someone like me that speaks fluent spanish, is closer to there age and comes from a similar culture. Sorry I have to be the one to tell you this but you can't be that naive.

P. S who doesn't like 70's,80's,90's that doesn't mean anything. The point I was trying to make is who they are MOST LIKELY to have a stronger bond with, which COULD lead to having better chemistry and a better experience more times than not.

Anthony2023
12-22-22, 05:27
Hi Mongers.,

I've been lurking for a little while on this forum, and after reading so many forum posts decided to take the plunge to visit in April. I have always found it a bit confusing on where to find that first person on Facebook to add. Any advice would be appreciated!!Hello fellow monger.

Search happy ending medellin on Facebook and start adding girls from the friends list. From there Facebook will start suggesting girls to you from medellin. Talk to girls who have pictures of their family or kids. You are less likely to be at risk that way.

Anthony2023
12-22-22, 05:58
Punting is an old man's hobby. If you are young, you can still be and should be pursuing relationships with ordinary civilian girls while you can, before their attitude turns toxic. When there are still good women worth having and available (because they get scarce in their 30's and what is left over can be dicey).

Punters have typically been mature men like myself, who still crave young women and of course, married men who need something other than their spouse to suit their carnal needs. All of the GPS in Brazil, whom I have queried about their client base have told me the same thing. 90% of their clients are married and usually older men. Because if you are single young man in Brazil, you are living in a nation full of fun women. Anytime I've come across fellow punters in South America (usually entering or leaving a brothel) my counterparts are usually mature like myself. This has happened in Argentina, Brazil and Colombia. And even in Pattaya, which is like the Disney World for males, the average age of the male visitor seems well over 30, or 40 even.

I never got serious about punting until I got divorced at the ripe age of 57, and found myself outside of the league of hot, young sluts. Not to mention that divorce left me near broke for a few years. Punting turned out to more cost efficient and less frustrating than dating.

That said, if you are under 40 and pursuing some fap fantasy about paying for sex, you are wasting your life. All I can say is go find a girlfriend, while you still can.This proof's to me even when we get older we could still have a lot to learn. While it's true that for the most part most mongers are older men, I think that has to do because of the fact most older men are financially stable to pursue the hobby. As far as if your under 40 you should be pursuing a relationship that couldn't be more farther than the truth. Most men in their 30's and 40's are in miserable relationships / marriages. I got married young in my 20's and was lucky enough to get out of it when I entered my 30's. I dated in my early 30's and believe me when I tell you this generation of entitled females is nothing like the women you dated when you were in your 30's. Not to mention there was no social media and perhaps texting. Most good looking females nowadays are talking to at least 2 guys at the same time. You can't take any of them seriously. You might find a unicorn in today's day and age but believe me it's rare. No thanks. Been there done that. I rather focus on my finances, my happiness instead of trying to make someone else happy. The hobby works out great for me because I travel a lot as well. So it's convenient and also drama free. I think hobbying in my mid 30's is awesome because like I mentioned before I have the full confidence to go after the hottest women (in my opinion) and the best part about it is I don't have to PRETEND like they like me as well because I am still young, fit, fun and attractive.

Anthony2023
12-22-22, 06:16
All I can say is go find a girlfriend, while you still can.Forgot to mention, at my age I can also still have that girlfriend experience in the hobby, by taking them out to dinners or dates without the awkwardness of the whole world staring at us if I was much older. At my age I can be out in public and be seen with a big titted, big butt girl without feeling uncomfortable. I agree 100% with you guys if I was 60+ years old no way in hell would I want to been with a plastic girl. It would be too obvious what kind of deal we got going on. I think I would just order room service at that point to spare me the embarrassment.

Nounce
12-22-22, 07:52
... "Robberies are most common in the city's downtown area where hundreds of thousands of people visit every day to go to work. Affluent districts like Poblado and Laureles / Estadio have also become popular attractions for robbers. ...I got this from where you got the quote from. It's not surprising that more people is going to have more robberies. It's not clear what is the "rate" or the context of the number? It also has to do with behaviors so these numbers could change for people don't engage in the same behavior.

Nounce
12-22-22, 08:07
It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out any girl will have more chemistry and vibe better (thus more than likely have better sex) with someone she has more in common with oppose to being with someone she has very little in common with and can't relate to. You can choose not to believe that, but that is a simple fact.Even if that is true, it still does not mean you have better sex than others. Just let the girl choose the music then she will think you have great connection.

GringoAdvent
12-22-22, 09:01
Can anyone point me in the direction of finding groups to join for FB girls? I am not having luck searching.

Also, has anyone had experience going full google translate on one of these dates? My spanish es no muy bien.

Anthony2023
12-22-22, 10:56
Even if that is true, it still does not mean you have better sex than others. Just let the girl choose the music then she will think you have great connection.Key word "More than likely".

Doesn't mean it will always be true.

JjBee62
12-22-22, 14:50
Unfortunately there is no breakdown given by area. I do have these paragraphs from Colombia Reports.

"Robberies are most common in the city's downtown area where hundreds of thousands of people visit every day to go to work. Affluent districts like Poblado and Laureles / Estadio have also become popular attractions for robbers.

Homicides
Medellins homicide rate has increased after hitting an all-time low in 2015, mainly because of an escalating turf war between gangs that are aligned with local crime syndicate the Oficina de Envigado, and their paramilitary rivals, the AGC, who control gangs in the west of the city.

Medellins downtown area has always had the citys highest homicide rate because it is where most drug dealing, fencing and contraband trading takes place.

.I'll add some observations.

On my drive north to Caucasia the army was everywhere, groups of them in almost every town. In one town the doors of almost every house and business were tagged in red paint with "AGC. ".

Downtown also has the highest population density. The crime there, especially involving foreigners is usually simple larceny. The people reporting being drugged and robbed stayed in Poblado and Laureles. Guys reporting a chica demanding more money and calling the police were mostly staying in Poblado or Laureles. However, wherever you are, it's up to you to keep alert for potential threats.

If you really want to see the filth in Medellin, I know of 2 spots. The first is in El Centro. Start on the north side of the Prado station and walk west. That's the area where all those garbage bags end up and people dig through for stuff to sell. You'll also, if you keep walking the area see scenes that have probably inspired a few zombie apocalypse movies. I don't advise going there. I never felt threatened, but there's nothing you want there.

There's a similar area I know of near Industriales in the north of Poblado.

JjBee62
12-22-22, 15:19
It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out any girl will have more chemistry and vibe better (thus more than likely have better sex) with someone she has more in common with oppose to being with someone she has very little in common with and can't relate to. You can choose not to believe that, but that is a simple fact.Every girl selling pussy can relate to any guy buying pussy, because they have the most important thing in common: The desire to trade money for sex.

Young, old, fat, skinny, Spanish speaking or barely able to say "hola", none of us have anything significant in common with most of these girls.

How many of your close friends or relatives were murdered before the age of 20? Were you forced to have sex between the age of 12-14? How many consecutive days have you gone eating only rice because the family had no money for anything else? How old were you when you first had a shower with hot water? Did you grow up in a house at least partially constructed from scrap materials? How many times have you and your friends been robbed at gunpoint? Did you have 2 or more children before the age of 18?

Just about every girl hooking in Medellin has experienced some of those things, many have been through all of them. Being sent to bed once without dinner doesn't really compare.

Making a connection takes more than playing "Criminal" and telling her how much you admire Pablo Escobar.

JjBee62
12-22-22, 15:33
Hey guys, what would be your prefered way to hit up on local girls in Medellin during the day? Shopping center or something else? I was thinking of Centro Comercial Santa Fe.First, I would ask myself how successful I've been in the past picking up women in the top 20% income bracket by talking to them at malls. Then I would ask myself if I speak and understand Spanish well enough to transfer that success to any mall in a Spanish speaking country. Next, I'd ask myself whether a (at least moderately) wealthy woman would be interested in me.

I would think the chance are better in a bar or restaurant, where people are not focused on a task, or in a mall in a lower income neighborhood.

JjBee62
12-22-22, 15:37
Hi Mongers.,

I've been lurking for a little while on this forum, and after reading so many forum posts decided to take the plunge to visit in April. I have always found it a bit confusing on where to find that first person on Facebook to add. Any advice would be appreciated!!Go to the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread, read back a few pages. You'll find helpful links on several subjects.

Nounce
12-22-22, 19:23
... when you wrote 25 killed in Medellin where are you getting that number? If you check El Colombiano newspaper, as of October there were 20 extranjero deaths...His number is from December. I think it is more now because there were a couple of men drugged in Laureles and one died.

Dcrist0527
12-22-22, 19:35
Phenomenal post. I'm one that requires chemistry to enjoy a session. But chemistry does not equal "things in common. " I don't think very many mongers can truly understand the difficult lives that nearly all of these girls have experienced. I'm sympathetic. Empathetic. But I can never understand the experience and you did a great job explaining it jjbee.


Every girl selling pussy can relate to any guy buying pussy, because they have the most important thing in common: The desire to trade money for sex.

Young, old, fat, skinny, Spanish speaking or barely able to say "hola", none of us have anything significant in common with most of these girls.

How many of your close friends or relatives were murdered before the age of 20? Were you forced to have sex between the age of 12-14? How many consecutive days have you gone eating only rice because the family had no money for anything else? How old were you when you first had a shower with hot water? Did you grow up in a house at least partially constructed from scrap materials? How many times have you and your friends been robbed at gunpoint? Did you have 2 or more children before the age of 18?

Just about every girl hooking in Medellin has experienced some of those things, many have been through all of them. Being sent to bed once without dinner doesn't really compare.

Making a connection takes more than playing "Criminal" and telling her how much you admire Pablo Escobar.

Tonesz
12-22-22, 20:14
Wound up deciding to go to Medellin after hearing so many people talking about it and having enjoyed it so I decided to do my research. I have been recently lurking in this forum for not that long trying to get information as well as lots of Youtube videos and wrote down places I should check out as it was recommended. I wound up getting my ticket for one week as a test run.

Preparation-.

A little about me, I'm in my early 30's, Latino and I am semi fluent in Spanish but I do have an accent so you can tell I'm not a local.

A month before my flight I started swiping on Tinder and trying to get a decent list of girls I could possibly meet up there. Of course a lot of people mentioned to not use Tinder, but I made sure I vetted them, spoke to them on video and made at least a small little connection with them. No talk of money, no talk of gifts, just me telling them I wana take them out to dinner and have us explore. This is just my way of how I do things. Might work for others and it might not. Throughout all the girls I spoke to on there I had at least a good 5 girls I established a meet up with when I got there.

I started looking for locations to stay around, I asked in forums and someone mentioned to me that LOS Patios Hostel was a good location for first timers, so I said why the heck not it has a lot of people and will give me something to do since I don't know anyone in Colombia and if these girls flake they at least will have something for me to do at night time. I wounding booking a private room (Looking back at it I shouldn't have booked it because they don't allow other people to stay the night, more on this later).

Flight, since I live on the east coast someone told me that it would be way cheaper to take spirit to Frt Lauderdale and then layover to MDE cost me around 400 $ or so I believe. (Will never take Spirit again, more on this later).

Objectives before Flight-.

These were the locations I wanted to check out during my stay in Medellin (didn't get to check out all of them, maybe next time).

La chula las palmas, La isla, Loutron, fase dos, Envy roof top, mirador de las palmas, Palmahia, La Setenta strip, Hangar m45, Azotea 360 and a couple of more places around Manrique.

These are just ones that come to the top of my head.

1st day-.

Everything went smooth with my flights I wound up getting to LOS Patios Hostel around 7 pm or so on a Wednesday I was tired so I knew I wasn't going to meet any girl that night I just wanted to rest. Worse enough that Spirit forgot my luggage in Fort Lauderdale and since it was raining they told me they couldn't deliver it to my location so I had to go pick it up and come back to my hostel with it. I was sweaty from being up all day so I wanted to freshen up and at least have a drink.

Once I got back the hostel was having a bar hop event at 10 pm so I got ready and started drinking at the roof top and trying to meet new people, it was Ok, 98% of the people there were gringos and only myself and one other were Hispanics. They wound up taking us to some bars around Parque lleras which I don't even remember the name because they were ok, nothing that caught my eye because I wound up just leaving because it was not my style as I went there for locals and the only locals that were there was old 40+ year old ladies.

Wound up getting an Uber to La Isla and I must say the girls there were really good looking, beautiful curves and pretty faces all around. I really enjoyed myself there I wound up getting a room with one of the girls there and her body was amazing, I believe she charged me 400,000 pesos, she was a paisa and she did not disappoint I give her a good personal rating of 8. I will be going back there.

Day 2-.

Got some Pan de Bonos and waited for my tinder date to arrive to the metro station. She was coming from some barrio up north so she had to take a bus and then the train to get to where I was located. Great girl, her name was Maria. We went out to eat around the poblado area, this is when I tried to take her to my room but I was told by the front desk that guests are not allowed in the rooms and they cannot stay overnight. Wound up renting an Airbnb for one night for about 30 $ since she was staying the night. Maria had an amazing body and she knew it, she wasn't ashamed to show it off as she wanted me to take pictures of her while we were in the room of her in her underwear and then fully naked. She gave some amazing head too but sadly she didn't swallow but she let me record everything that we did. Once again she was not shy. Never asked for money just for the fare to get to me and to get back the next day.

Day 3 –.

Had another tinder date with this other paisa her name is Estefania, wound up flaking on another one she was Venezuelan but I was going to make it up to her the next day. Wound up meeting Estefania she's studying to be a teacher so I met her up after school went north past el centro. Great girl, light skinned with really light brown eyes, great skinny body but really curvy with a nice ass for her body type, plus found out she was a real home body type of girl. Wound up going out to eat to the Hangar. Now the Hangar had great food but I just didn't like their seating situation. I get it they want to make you feel like you're in a plane but the tray thing they put on top of your chair slants so makes everything just slide down. Didn't really get used to it. I would go next time but with a reservation for a better seat.

Once we were done eating her mom calls her to make sure she is ok and that to make sure she didn't get "kidnapped" LOL, we get in a little conversation so this is where it got tricky and it could of went south real quick. We wound up deciding for me to go meet her mom but they live all the way up the morro (mountains.) Part of me was a little sketchy but the other side of me wanted to because I came here to see the non tourist side of Medellin and that would be perfect. Plus I am not too unfamiliar with the Barrios as I go visit my family in Peru from time to time and they live in poor Barrios as well. I made the decision to go with her up to her Barrios which once again it could have been bad for me if she had alternative motives. So the barrio was past the Metro Santo Domingo and after going all the way up I must say I have a great deal of respect for the people who climb all the way up and all the way down daily as it was just crazy. My legs were burning once reaching the top because not all taxis like to go up there as it is dangerous and its extremely steep and narrow. The view was incredible though, personally best view of Medellin ever as you could see all of the city from the highest point. It was beautiful. The houses were basically shacks and you can tell it was really poor Barrio. Met her mom and brothers and they welcomed me with open arms and it was really nice and we just spoke until later on that night her and her brother walked me back down and got me a taxi so I can head back to my hotel.

Day 4-.

Something must of happened because I was extremely attracted to Estefania. Planned of meeting her that same day but after she came out of school again. I had some time to kill so I went to el Centro to see what the talk is all about, unfortunately I really didn't see any SW as I was really early according to the lemonade man which I tipped a small amount to give me the details of el centro. Which for me I like to do as I believe not only will they look out for you but they will give you the local info as in what to look out for or where to go. Lots of people just taking pictures around the statues and people just sitting around and enjoying the sun / view of course some people laid out in the floor due to drugs but I mean to me it didn't seem anything crazy as people make it out to be just people hanging around. Then again I grew up in the hood so I guess anything is better and you kinda get the sense when a place is no good. Only thing I saw was that when I was getting an Empanada I saw an elderly man almost get his phone stolen by this young guy but then again he had it around his belt in a high traffic area but good thing the old man noticed and the kid just kept on walking. I was about to go to New life casa to check it out since I was close by but then Estefania told me she was coming out early so I went to see her.

Went up the Barrio again, don't fall asleep on these Barrio girls they have amazing bodies, but this time her mom cooked for me a home made bandeja paisa and I must say It was so dam good. I spent most of the time hanging around with her and her family in the "shack" later that night they wound up taking me to Manrique to enjoy the night life. Not sure exactly where we went but they knew the spot. Very fun, a lot of pretty local girls. Wound up getting 2 bottles of aguardiente because it was buy 1 get one free type of deal LOL but it was pretty cheap maybe 30 $? I noticed that if they see people walking around theres always those guys that I guess you can call it advertise for the lounges and you get a deal. We spent drinking and dancing that whole night until they had to go home. I wound up then going to Fase Dos with some dude I met in la Isla LOL.

Fase Dos was fun, only spent a good maybe 40 $ for everything in that place for half a bottle of aguardiente and ofcourse money to give to the strippers. There the dude I met introduced me to some chick that works there that he had the night with (I would personally give her a good 7. 5 as she was good looking and nice body) and told me she gives good Blow jobs without condom, that she just waits for you to whip it out and starts going crazy and that she swallows too. Got her number and started talking to her for the next time I was free. Wound up going home.

Day 5-.

Once again flaked on the other girls I was supposed to meet and spent it with Estefania, but this time I got to spend it alone with her, I decided to try to take her to my private room, the staff didn't give me shit this time as maybe because the way she was dressed they thought she was another tourist so they signed her in and gave her a wrist band to come and go as she pleases to my room. Wound up having sex with her there and wow she was good. Right away started giving me blowjob, took off all her clothes and she was shy about it so she had me turn off all the lights so it could be dark but her blowjob skills were good, then had her ride me and she was so tight it made me cum in about 2-3 minutes I was like wow that was unexpected. She just laughed and went on with watching movies and then went for a 2nd and 3rd round. You can tell she was very willing to please. Just spent the day with her in the hotel as after that I was completely drained. Plus she let me cum in her all those times.

Day 6 –.

Met up with Estafania and since her family was nothing but nice to me and even cooked for me I decided to do a small shopping for her mom. So Estefania and her brother came with me to Exito and we got things her mom needed such as bags of rice and sugar and all the good stuff for her to cook. Didn't cost me much maybe about 200 $ or less but regardless that's what I would of spent out paying different girls and drinking and all this and that, but instead I'm getting pussy basically for "free" well not really but you catch my drift. Plus I feel like I did a good deed looking at their living circumstances. Later fucked Estefania again in my room a couple of times and went back up to the barrio to hang out up there and show me around. Once again lots of respect to the people who travel up and down those stairs. The food is also so good.

Day 7-.

My last day I left early due to my flight so I really didn't do much just ate some pan de bonos. The flight back was terrible. We landed early in Fort Lauderdale but missed my layover flight due to immigration and for some reason Spirit had us waiting for us to get our luggage and re check it back in which caused a lot of people to miss their layover flight. Couldn't get another flight back until the next day at 8 am which then I had to get a hotel and all that. It was crazy and such a waste of time. For this I rather spend that extra money and get a one way flight than having to deal with the inconvenience.

Summary-.

Would I have changed anything? Not really I really enjoyed my time there and it was a great surprise. I saw a lot of beautiful women around and spoke to some. Got some numbers for next time I come around. Medellin treated me very well. I will be going back on February again for 2 weeks this time. I will try to get back in touch with my other Tinder matches from before which I have started little by little to see them. I will also try to spend more time to check out more areas as I basically spent it with Estefania that time but she did show me around a lot of places. I will for sure have some time for the Fase Dos girl and been in contact with her so she's already waiting for me LOL. I will just try to explore more of the city and get more notches under my belt and O yea once again try my luck on the SW centro girls just to see what's out there. Oh and try out Angeles Spa as well since I hear good things about it.

IamLookin
12-22-22, 20:44
The number is from end of month October published in December. The number will increase by years end obviously. I don't think the causes of deaths are going to be much different


His number is from December. I think it is more now because there were a couple of men drugged in Laureles and one died..

Litmus Smut
12-22-22, 21:03
Construction workers said they expect the project to be done after 2 months, so a rough ETA of March 1.

The place looks the same, but there is a lot more brick and stone pavers on the sidewalks in place of the old broken concrete. Looks like the tents in front of Gustos will be permanent.

See video for deets and a walk around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgqBu7NxVO4

Anthony2023
12-22-22, 21:38
Every girl selling pussy can relate to any guy buying pussy, because they have the most important thing in common: The desire to trade money for sex.

Young, old, fat, skinny, Spanish speaking or barely able to say "hola", none of us have anything significant in common with most of these girls.

How many of your close friends or relatives were murdered before the age of 20? Were you forced to have sex between the age of 12-14? How many consecutive days have you gone eating only rice because the family had no money for anything else? How old were you when you first had a shower with hot water? Did you grow up in a house at least partially constructed from scrap materials? How many times have you and your friends been robbed at gunpoint? Did you have 2 or more children before the age of 18?

Just about every girl hooking in Medellin has experienced some of those things, many have been through all of them. Being sent to bed once without dinner doesn't really compare.

Making a connection takes more than playing "Criminal" and telling her how much you admire Pablo Escobar.I agree most wouldn't. I on the other hand have experienced a couple things you mentioned. I didn't grow up as privileged as most middle class. So yeah you basically proved my point, someone as myself could be more relatable.

Knowledge
12-22-22, 21:49
I was very much hoping the reconstruction would include new sidewalks and roadways. The tree roots had pretty much taken over the park. Quite a few wasted people have fallen on the broken and uneven surfaces. It will be interesting to see if the tents get organized similar to Parque Poblado to control the vendors. They were beginning to clog the park badly.


Construction workers said they expect the project to be done after 2 months, so a rough ETA of March 1.

The place looks the same, but there is a lot more brick and stone pavers on the sidewalks in place of the old broken concrete. Looks like the tents in front of Gustos will be permanent.

See video for deets and a walk around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgqBu7NxVO4

JjBee62
12-22-22, 22:36
Construction workers said they expect the project to be done after 2 months, so a rough ETA of March 1.

The place looks the same, but there is a lot more brick and stone pavers on the sidewalks in place of the old broken concrete. Looks like the tents in front of Gustos will be permanent.

See video for deets and a walk around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgqBu7NxVO4The tents go up on the north side for Christmas, same with the Parque Poblado tents. They'll probably come down after New Years.

Tonesz
12-23-22, 01:51
Phenomenal post. I'm one that requires chemistry to enjoy a session. But chemistry does not equal "things in common. " I don't think very many mongers can truly understand the difficult lives that nearly all of these girls have experienced. I'm sympathetic. Empathetic. But I can never understand the experience and you did a great job explaining it jjbee.I agree with this as well. Just my short time spent there I got to see how the real barrios up in the hills are and as jjbee mentioned it is all made by scrap material and no windows just a piece of cloth covering that large hole. Was in the house of a girl that her roof was scrap metal with holes on it so when it rained we had to put buckets under it. I came from a barrio like that in Peru so I kinda understand it and it doesn't bother me at all but I never fully lived through it as they are doing. Just kinda humbles you. I got to speak to some girls from Fase Dos mostly as friends, as well did a few video calls with them and from what I noticed even the sexiest girls out there working in those locations and well dressed still live in barrios with houses as that mentioned.

Nounce
12-23-22, 06:56
The number is from end of month October published in December. The number will increase by years end obviously. I don't think the causes of deaths are going to be much different

.The 25th victim is the 27 yr old California man that died recently.

This is 26th.


.... I think it is more now because there were a couple of men drugged in Laureles and one died.