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PigSavinBoy
01-10-23, 12:49
It is with great resentment and sadness that I am about to post what I am going to post but I feel as though the information needs to be out there to help fellow mongers in medellin to avoid what happened to me.
So anyways I just recently got back to medellin after having been gone for 2 months working in the US. I had been messaging this lesbian marimacha chick that I met on a previous trip back in May while I was on my way here. It turns out she was also pregnant and I kinda have a fetish for pregnant women LOL.
Anyways so as soon as I arrived I grabbed the bus from the airport (which is now 14 mil by the way) and headed to terminal del norte. I had Yei (the pregnant lesbian chick) meet me there, and since I had my suitcase and backpack and all my belongings with me I told her I wanted to go to my apartment in santo domingo (I know big mistake, especially with a chick I've only seen one time prior). Anyways we make it back to my place, everything is in order just how I left it in November. She says she wanted a beer an guila light, I tell her she shouldn't be drinking since she is 8 months pregnant but I guess one light beer wouldn't hurt. I then go to the local tienda in my barrio and buy 2 Aguila lights and come back. I open them both and take a swig of mine and then hop in the shower since I was all sweaty and hadn't showered since I left California. When I get out of the shower yei is in my room mopping up something on the floor and I'm like what happened and she's like oh I accidentally spilled the beers. And I'm like ok whatever. So then I go to grab my beer and low and behold the beer is more full than it had been after my first swig before I got in the shower. Upon further inspection I also noticed that it had alot more foam than it did before my shower and it had some kind of white powder on the neck of the bottle. So I questioned her about it but she denied putting anything in my beer, I however didn't believe her and I went and dumped it out. We then proceeded to have a BBFS session which actually was really good and exactly what I wanted just as good as the first time I saw her back in May. Then afterwards she started complaining that her barriga was hurting and that she didn't feel she could walk all the way down the hillsbof my barrio down to where taxis and cars pass by and that she wanted her girlfriend to come get her so we could both help her walk. I knew something fishy was going on but against my better judgment I gave her my address to give to her girlfriend to grab a taxi, but the address isn't exact because I don't know the interior number and all cars can't pass all the way up here just motos and pedestrians because the road gets too narrow. So when the girlfriend arrived I had to go down to get her. During this time when I left yei alone in my apartment she got into my backpack and took my laptop, my tablet, and a cheap Sony cybershot camera and put them into her backpack that she had brought with her. My dumbass being too trusting didn't think to double check my backpack until after the girlfriend and I helped her down the hill and into a taxi. And when I got back I checked and of course my shit was gone. Luckily everything was all cheap shit tho. The laptop was $100 on black Friday at best buy it was a Lenovo IdeaPad I1 with barebones specs, I just use it to hook up to the TV to watch movies and shows I have downloaded on hard drives. She also got my tablet which was some cheap shit from Walmart called Onn that was like $70 maybe, and she also got my Sony w800 cybershot camera also worth about $70 oh and my cell phone charger was missing as well. The stupid * actually left behind things that were more valuable than what she took, such as my 2 western digital 10 TB hard drives and an original JBL Bluetooth speaker among other things.
Anyways I have attached pictures of the lesbian chick and her girlfriend as well as her Facebook profile and pictures of the residual powder on the beer bottle (after I had dumped it out).
The marimacha goes by Yei Sanchez and the girlfriend (the fem lesbian) goes by Joanna Gomez or Reichell Gomez. They work in the Botero area and stay in a pagodiario in prado.
I guess I always learn the hard way, I know better than to bring chicas back to my place especially one's I don't really know that well, I was thinking with my dick instead of my head and after I noticed the powder on the beer I honestly don't know why I didn't throw the * out of my apartment right away. The good news is that I didn't drink the beer, I didn't pass out or even die, and while I'm out about $250 usd worth of electronics, I can always buy those things back again and it honestly wouldn't put much of a dent in my wallet at the moment.
Please be careful out there guys. This is the first time anything like this has ever happened to me in all the 5 years I've been coming to Colombia, but it seems to me that people are robbing and stealing more than they used to. A friend of mine recently had his IPhone stolen in Centro and even a vennie I know had her phone stolen as well. This for me is just a lesson to learn about not being so trusting of people which really I already knew but I guess I was just getting to confident or too comfortable, but it could have turned out much worse.Damn, lucky she was sloppy and you've noticed it, could've been be much worse considering she seems like an amateur so who knows what kind of dose was in there. Thanks for the report and posting her mug and info. Remember to change all your passwords / auto-logins that might've been on the devices.
Mr Enternational
01-10-23, 13:30
How did she get into the safe? Just curious.There are 800,000 videos on youtube that show how to get into a safe. Using a magnet, potato, or fist are 3 ways.
I remember this now. During that time there weren't many people in the plaza so the commotion was really noticeable.
Hi Knowledge,
Not quite but sort of; two guys went hands-on with me in front of the ground-zero Tostao on the first DIA sin IVA during the pandemic. You were nearby. At that time I was staying with a girlfriend in Prado Centro and then moved to my first Medellin apartment, where I quickly got nailed for having too many guests and basically had to move because I was put on probation. I then moved to a great apartment in a building with porteros that love me and have been here ever since. I'll reply to another message now with details of the scope incident.
How did she get into the safe? Just curious.Yes the hotel absolutely failed me. I stayed in this international chain and registered as one person for my own safety, I had no intention of taking anybody to my room. She got into my safe because apparently she got the code from me. That's why she was in my room for 2. 5 hours, it probably took several tries for her to get the safe and devices open as I was stupefied by the drug. This is my last comment on this. I have been on two year's worth of lunch dates here. Conversation on this day was normal to above normal, she never advertised herself as a puta nor looked like one nor was I looking for one. She presented herself as a woman who went to a technical institite and had a stable job. We were not partying or headed for the bed. When she left my hotel that night on moto (google maps location tracking), one ATM card went south and the other made several withdrawals moving north. Credit cards immediately were being used for online and in-person charges. There were a lot of people behind this and they were well-organized. Anyways I'm still here, I like Colombia. But it's a jungle out there. Weekend warriors who visit for five days and declare Colombia safe are very ill-informed. Be safe everyone.
Is she from bogata? Because the only hot girl I see on fb with that name says she was born and lives in bogata.Try these.
https://www.facebook.com/kittyslammed
https://www.instagram.com/sweete_sassy/?hl=en
https://chaturbate.com/sweete_sassy/
Seeing these reports of people getting robbed / drugged is honestly scaring me from visiting. I haven't been out of the US before and I am wondering if I should just go to Thailand for my first time out of the country or just try Colombia. Thailand is like a 30 hour flight while Colombia is only like 6 hours.
I would mostly rely on outcall (escort agencies etc). I would really appreciate some honest feedback on if I should go to Colombia or not as a first timer.
Thanks.
Almost every instance I've heard of, involving guys getting drugged and robbed, have a couple of things in common. The biggest one is leaving a drink unattended. Your mindset should be the same with a drink left unattended as with a piece of food dropped on a public restroom floor. It goes in the toilet, not in your mouth.
Another common thread involves 1 or more girls of uncertain origin. Tinder is a good example. It's designed to be anonymous, making it perfect for anyone interested in targeting men for robbery.
Hotel safes can be opened without the code. If you're targeted by a group of pros, they won't need your code. Same thing if you're targeted by an amateur who knows how to use Google.
Most things on your phone can be accessed once the phone is unlocked. If you use facial recognition or a fingerprint to unlock, chances are anyone who gets access to your phone can unlock it. Same with a PIN, if they see you unlock it. Unlock phone, open app, click forgot password, email is sent with reset link, reset password, the app is yours.
It's easy to let your guard down. Make a habit of questioning your environment and situation. Try to think outside the box with protecting your valuables. It's possible to avoid most of the risks.
AmorPorFavor
01-10-23, 19:38
Yes the hotel absolutely failed me. I stayed in this international chain and registered as one person for my own safety, I had no intention of taking anybody to my room. She got into my safe because apparently she got the code from me. That's why she was in my room for 2. 5 hours, it probably took several tries for her to get the safe and devices open as I was stupefied by the drug. This is my last comment on this. I have been on two year's worth of lunch dates here. Conversation on this day was normal to above normal, she never advertised herself as a puta nor looked like one nor was I looking for one. She presented herself as a woman who went to a technical institite and had a stable job. We were not partying or headed for the bed. When she left my hotel that night on moto (google maps location tracking), one ATM card went south and the other made several withdrawals moving north. Credit cards immediately were being used for online and in-person charges. There were a lot of people behind this and they were well-organized. Anyways I'm still here, I like Colombia. But it's a jungle out there. Weekend warriors who visit for five days and declare Colombia safe are very ill-informed. Be safe everyone.Did the credit card companies reimburse you for the fraudulent charges?
To me it sounds like she told you what you wanted to hear when you asked her to tell you about herself. The important thing is you didn't lose anything irreplaceable, like your life. If you learned from the experience you will be OK.
Yes the hotel absolutely failed me. I stayed in this international chain and registered as one person for my own safety, I had no intention of taking anybody to my room. She got into my safe because apparently she got the code from me. That's why she was in my room for 2. 5 hours, it probably took several tries for her to get the safe and devices open as I was stupefied by the drug. This is my last comment on this. I have been on two year's worth of lunch dates here. Conversation on this day was normal to above normal, she never advertised herself as a puta nor looked like one nor was I looking for one. She presented herself as a woman who went to a technical institite and had a stable job. We were not partying or headed for the bed. When she left my hotel that night on moto (google maps location tracking), one ATM card went south and the other made several withdrawals moving north. Credit cards immediately were being used for online and in-person charges. There were a lot of people behind this and they were well-organized. Anyways I'm still here, I like Colombia. But it's a jungle out there. Weekend warriors who visit for five days and declare Colombia safe are very ill-informed. Be safe everyone.
Anthony2023
01-10-23, 21:19
Try these.
https://www.facebook.com/kittyslammed
https://www.instagram.com/sweete_sassy/?hl=en
https://chaturbate.com/sweete_sassy/Ah OK thanks I think I did see her on fb. Not my type so I kept searching.
Anthony2023
01-10-23, 21:25
Best I've seen that's about true. Doritos nacho cheese are all over though, and the Colombian brands of potato chips are quite good. They also have good chocolate bars, ice cream, and cakes. As bad as Colombian food can be, sweets is their strength.Oh ok good to know. I saw some video of a guy saying he brought American snacks for this girl and she went ape shits LOL so they might like that as a small gift LOL.
Anthony2023
01-10-23, 21:31
Yes the hotel absolutely failed me. I stayed in this international chain and registered as one person for my own safety. Anyways I'm still here, I like Colombia. But it's a jungle out there. Weekend warriors who visit for five days and declare Colombia safe are very ill-informed. Be safe everyone.You should have made the tramp take a sip of the beer when you asked her about it. "No I didn't touch" "alright bih take a sip" LOL.
MiamiSammy
01-10-23, 22:18
Yes the hotel absolutely failed me. I stayed in this international chain and registered as one person for my own safety, I had no intention of taking anybody to my room. She got into my safe because apparently she got the code from me. That's why she was in my room for 2. 5 hours, it probably took several tries for her to get the safe and devices open as I was stupefied by the drug. This is my last comment on this. I have been on two year's worth of lunch dates here. Conversation on this day was normal to above normal, she never advertised herself as a puta nor looked like one nor was I looking for one. She presented herself as a woman who went to a technical institite and had a stable job. We were not partying or headed for the bed. When she left my hotel that night on moto (google maps location tracking), one ATM card went south and the other made several withdrawals moving north. Credit cards immediately were being used for online and in-person charges. There were a lot of people behind this and they were well-organized. Anyways I'm still here, I like Colombia. But it's a jungle out there. Weekend warriors who visit for five days and declare Colombia safe are very ill-informed. Be safe everyone.Look, you're hanging with a fast, dangerous crowd. You didn't come to Medellin to rub elbows with the church crowd. If you call escorts in Cleveland you're liable to get drugged and rolled. This isn't so much about Colombia being dangerous as it is you putting yourself in high-risk situations. Don't blame the hotel for your behavior. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't be working the ladies, only saying if you're expecting them to always be honest business people it's you that's delusional.
MiamiSammy
01-10-23, 22:23
There are 800,000 videos on youtube that show how to get into a safe. Using a magnet, potato, or fist are 3 ways.800,000, eh? I like the potato method best.
Look, you're hanging with a fast, dangerous crowd. You didn't come to Medellin to rub elbows with the church crowd. If you call escorts in Cleveland you're liable to get drugged and rolled. This isn't so much about Colombia being dangerous as it is you putting yourself in high-risk situations. Don't blame the hotel for your behavior. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't be working the ladies, only saying if you're expecting them to always be honest business people it's you that's delusional.I think this is a bit beyond the normal escort world. What it appears to be is that the organized crime groups have developed a very extensive network of people that are reasonably proficient at finding victims, and then with the help of the network stealing all of the information they can get their hands on, and then cleaning out bank accounts, stealing identifies, etc. Tens of thousands, into the hundreds of thousands, druggings per year in Colombia is hardly a typical risk that you have in seeing escorts in other parts of the world. It is in their best interest that they not kill very many, but they are likely using the home made versions of scopolamine as it can be manufactured there direct from a tree that grows in the areas including Bogota, and dosage may be uncertain.
Damn, lucky she was sloppy and you've noticed it, could've been be much worse considering she seems like an amateur so who knows what kind of dose was in there. Thanks for the report and posting her mug and info. Remember to change all your passwords / auto-logins that might've been on the devices.I believe what happened is she must have put a lot of it in the beer which caused it to foam up and overflow, hence the powder on the neck and rim of the bottle that can be seen in the photos. Also that would explain why she grabbed my mop and was mopping up also. I think she was very inexperienced in this, and I know it's my fault I got got for leaving her alone in my place with my belongings. I should have known better. I have a select few I brought over during my August thru November stay when I first got the apartment and those are ones I've known for a long time and nothing was ever missing. I need to have better judgment of who I invite to my place and think with my head not my dick. Lesson learned.
FlappyGilmore0
01-11-23, 01:18
Not to beat a dead horse but the hotel definitely failed at lugnut.
On the other hand, My understanding is that even the act of meeting a woman then immediately having 1:1 time with her is big red flag in Colombia per cultural norms.
At Jjbee great points. Some precautions may be difficult to take the longer you're in the city though.
There is a YouTube video out there about a guy who tricked a scammer into scoping herself LOL.
At Dchrist thanks for the details. Will give the place a try.
GeneHickman
01-11-23, 01:32
I think this is a bit beyond the normal escort world. What it appears to be is that the organized crime groups have developed a very extensive network of people that are reasonably proficient at finding victims, and then with the help of the network stealing all of the information they can get their hands on, and then cleaning out bank accounts, stealing identifies, etc. Tens of thousands, into the hundreds of thousands, druggings per year in Colombia is hardly a typical risk that you have in seeing escorts in other parts of the world. It is in their best interest that they not kill very many, but they are likely using the home made versions of scopolamine as it can be manufactured there direct from a tree that grows in the areas including Bogota, and dosage may be uncertain.I agree it's an elevated risk in Colombia compared to other places. I also agree it's organized crime and we know Colombia is well known for that. Also correct that there are precautions one can take, all the way to going to a love motel with any stranger. The part worst than the loss of phone etc, is the loss of data, passwords etc, which allows the criminals to do much bigger money theft. Almost makes you want to take a separate phone for travel with no such data on it.
Seeing these reports of people getting robbed / drugged is honestly scaring me from visiting. I haven't been out of the US before and I am wondering if I should just go to Thailand for my first time out of the country or just try Colombia. Thailand is like a 30 hour flight while Colombia is only like 6 hours.
I would mostly rely on outcall (escort agencies etc). I would really appreciate some honest feedback on if I should go to Colombia or not as a first timer.
Thanks.The thing is you can get pussy so cheap in Colombia (or Brasil, Thailand, DR, etc) because you are really rich compared to them. It's been discussed before that a typical Colombian makes the equivalent of about $200-250 USD a month. So even if you're a gringo of modest means, you can afford more pussy than you can handle. However, that wealth disparity makes you a juicy target. Added to that, you're not hanging around librarians or church ushers. You're hanging around "working girls," and like it or not they typically have a lot of delincuent friends. Or are delincuents themselves.
If you want to go to a non-third world country where this hobby is virtually 100% safe, you might consider the FKKs in Germany. Personally I like traveling somewhere warm during the N. American winter, but if that doesn't matter to you, the FKKs are as good as it gets.
Mr Enternational
01-11-23, 03:41
So even if you're a gringo of modest means, you can afford more pussy than you can handle. However, that wealth disparity makes you a juicy target. Added to that, you're not hanging around librarians or church ushers. You're hanging around "working girls," and like it or not they typically have a lot of delincuent friends. Or are delincuents themselves.And that is what separates us centro rats from the Poblado dwellers. We totally understand that we are doing street shit, and not sitting in a condo with rose colored glasses thinking how thankful this chick is going to be that I am giving her 200,000 pesos plus tip, taxi, and whatever the hell else, before we pass out and all our shit ends up missing.
Once again, these mfs are not your friends. I do not know if it was this thread or another that the poster said why didn't she realize I was going to give her more than she stole. What he did not understand is what a working girl is. They get it with their lips, hips, and fingertips. It is not always the proper business transaction that some squares are picturing it to be. Just because it is legal does not mean people are on the up and up and not up to no good.
Seeing these reports of people getting robbed / drugged is honestly scaring me from visiting. I haven't been out of the US before and I am wondering if I should just go to Thailand for my first time out of the country or just try Colombia. Thailand is like a 30 hour flight while Colombia is only like 6 hours.
I would mostly rely on outcall (escort agencies etc). I would really appreciate some honest feedback on if I should go to Colombia or not as a first timer.
Thanks.Go to Tijuana and get your feet wet their. Don't like it, easily walk back.
I'm making my first trip to Medellin. I have play in other countries, including Tijuana (which was a 4 day stay). I'll report back after my trip.
The thing is you can get pussy so cheap in Colombia (or Brasil, Thailand, DR, etc) because you are really rich compared to them. It's been discussed before that a typical Colombian makes the equivalent of about $200-250 USD a month. So even if you're a gringo of modest means, you can afford more pussy than you can handle. However, that wealth disparity makes you a juicy target. Added to that, you're not hanging around librarians or church ushers. You're hanging around "working girls," and like it or not they typically have a lot of delincuent friends. Or are delincuents themselves.
If you want to go to a non-third world country where this hobby is virtually 100% safe, you might consider the FKKs in Germany. Personally I like traveling somewhere warm during the N. American winter, but if that doesn't matter to you, the FKKs are as good as it gets.It doesn't get you out of the winter weather, but a more accessible option is Canada. I don't know how things are currently enforced, but it was pretty wide open with escorts, massage parlors and strip clubs last I checked.
BarrioSpinners
01-11-23, 06:08
Most things on your phone can be accessed once the phone is unlocked. If you use facial recognition or a fingerprint to unlock, chances are anyone who gets access to your phone can unlock it. Same with a PIN, if they see you unlock it. Unlock phone, open app, click forgot password, email is sent with reset link, reset password, the app is yours.Problem is that the victim will give access to phone and the only option I can think of is to get someone to do weekly transfers on my card. You basically don't know how to access that money by yourself. In my case, once accommodation is paid I only need money for food, uber and ladys. I also remove all banking app from my main phone and I download them again only if I need it.
I'll give you the quick lowdown on the mansion. Disclaimer: I do like the place and at least stop in there every visit. It has plenty of haters on this board. Which is fine but I cannot figure out why they are so adamant.
Basically, think day vs night. In the morning, it's generally guests only. The staff is fantastic. They'll do anything for you. The breakfast is cooked to order. Think homemade vs a big spread. About noon, girls will start trickling in. You'll have anywhere between 5 and 15 girls there during the day at the pool. The vibe is pretty low key. There's not alot of hustle. As has been said, you'll get to know them well. Obviously, all are available to take to your room. Price is 200 K. Obviously, you can negotiate what you want. I've never had a bad session there.
At 6 PM, the pool area essentially closes. Everyone goes to the bar / club. I have never been a fan of the club, at least as far as the facilites. It's just not that nice. It is clean. But calling it a club is a bit of a stretch. Very small bar, large dance floor that's not often used. And seating along the walls. When there aren't many people there, it has a very odd feel to it. But, I will say, I've had some really good nights there. Numbers of girls vary there, but I'd say usually you'll find around 20 girls there. It's definitely livelier later.Hey, what's the site or full name for this mansion place I would love to check it out.
Snickers and M&Ms are sold at Exito supermarkets and smaller grocery stores too. Twizzlers licorice twists can't be found, though. And curiously, Campbells condensed soups are nowhere I've been.
These are facts. Ignore them at your peril.
And that is what separates us centro rats from the Poblado dwellers. We totally understand that we are doing street shit, and not sitting in a condo with rose colored glasses thinking how thankful this chick is going to be that I am giving her 200,000 pesos plus tip, taxi, and whatever the hell else, before we pass out and all our shit ends up missing.
Once again, these mfs are not your friends. I do not know if it was this thread or another that the poster said why didn't she realize I was going to give her more than she stole. What he did not understand is what a working girl is. They get it with their lips, hips, and fingertips. It is not always the proper business transaction that some squares are picturing it to be. Just because it is legal does not mean people are on the up and up and not up to no good.
Hey, what's the site or full name for this mansion place I would love to check it out.http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/
Voodoo Jones
01-11-23, 19:07
I was in Medellin last month and had 3 different women in my apartment at Energy Living. No problems and saw 2 of them again on different days.
I followed the same advice I provided here before my trip:
I didn't drink alcohol with them in my apartment. I asked if they wanted a beer, but I drank water and and never left my drink unattended. If they put something in my water, it would become cloudy and noticeable. If I had suspicions, I could just refill my glass from the tap. The only time I drank alcohol with women was when we were at a restaurant and I never left the table until we were ready to go. Don't get drunk with them, let them drink if they want, but keep your senses. Also, drinking alcohol can lead to whiskey dick and I'm here to fuck them, not get drunk with them.
This is the utmost important advice you can follow. They can't drug you by blowing powder in your face or getting it absorbed through your skin. You have to ingest it.
Finally, get a place that requires ID for entrance, order all transportation yourself (I exclusively used Uber including picking them up and dropped off), and don't leave them unattended for too long. I avoided getting Rappi (food delivery) because that would mean I had to go downstairs to get it. But if I did, I would 100% tell her to come down with me. No way I'm leaving someone in my apartment by themselves. Instead, I ordered room service or went to a restaurant.
I had a great time in Medellin. Met up with a few ISG members and we went out every night. I'm going back next month to hook up with these same women.
Yes the hotel absolutely failed me. I stayed in this international chain and registered as one person for my own safety, I had no intention of taking anybody to my room. She got into my safe because apparently she got the code from me. That's why she was in my room for 2. 5 hours, it probably took several tries for her to get the safe and devices open as I was stupefied by the drug. This is my last comment on this. I have been on two year's worth of lunch dates here. Conversation on this day was normal to above normal, she never advertised herself as a puta nor looked like one nor was I looking for one. She presented herself as a woman who went to a technical institite and had a stable job. We were not partying or headed for the bed. When she left my hotel that night on moto (google maps location tracking), one ATM card went south and the other made several withdrawals moving north. Credit cards immediately were being used for online and in-person charges. There were a lot of people behind this and they were well-organized. Anyways I'm still here, I like Colombia. But it's a jungle out there. Weekend warriors who visit for five days and declare Colombia safe are very ill-informed. Be safe everyone.There are guys that say "this will never happen to me because. ".
The desire to procreate is stronger than crack, coke and heroin combined LOL.
It is with great resentment and sadness that I am about to post
I guess I always learn the hard way, I know better than to bring chicas back to my place especially one's I don't really know that well, I was thinking with my dick instead of my head and after I noticed the powder on the beer I honestly don't know why I didn't throw the * out of my apartment right away. The good news is that I didn't drink the beer, I didn't pass out or even die, and while I'm out about $250 usd worth of electronics, I can always buy those things back again and it honestly wouldn't put much of a dent in my wallet at the moment.
Please be careful out there guys. This is the first time anything like this has ever happened to me in all the 5 years I've been coming to Colombia, but it seems to me that people are robbing and stealing more than they used to. A friend of mine recently had his IPhone stolen in Centro and even a vennie I know had her phone stolen as well. This for me is just a lesson to learn about not being so trusting of people which really I already knew but I guess I was just getting to confident or too comfortable, but it could have turned out much worse.You may have gotten complacent which is often the case when things go your way and your having so much fun.
"Rust never sleeps" "Colombian thieves and scammers continue to evolve no matter how you prepare and what you think you read".
MiamiSammy
01-12-23, 00:41
I think this is a bit beyond the normal escort world. What it appears to be is that the organized crime groups have developed a very extensive network of people that are reasonably proficient at finding victims, and then with the help of the network stealing all of the information they can get their hands on, and then cleaning out bank accounts, stealing identifies, etc. Tens of thousands, into the hundreds of thousands, druggings per year in Colombia is hardly a typical risk that you have in seeing escorts in other parts of the world. It is in their best interest that they not kill very many, but they are likely using the home made versions of scopolamine as it can be manufactured there direct from a tree that grows in the areas including Bogota, and dosage may be uncertain.My, you are naive, aren't you? Prostitution has always been heavily controlled by organized crime, not just in Colombia but elsewhere. Colombia has a superstructure of cartels that are almost half a century old. Yes, most of the girls in Medellin and elsewhere in Colombia are independent and somewhat safe, but anywhere the papayas hang low you'll find people willing to pool their resources to pick them. Nowhere do papayas hang lower than when a guy has his pants around his ankles. What are you going to do? Go to a cop and say, "Hey, I brought a hooker up to my room and she rolled me!" Prostitution isn't illegal in Colombia, but soliciting sex (mongering) is. They just caught a guy from San Fran at the airport in Medellin for offering money for sex online, and then there's always the tale of Cuba Dave. Most risks can be managed effectively, but the first step is to be fully cognizant that the hobby carries a lot of risks in the best of circumstances.
MiamiSammy
01-12-23, 01:02
I was in Medellin last month and had 3 different women in my apartment at Energy Living. No problems and saw 2 of them again on different days.
I followed the same advice I provided here before my trip:
I didn't drink alcohol with them in my apartment. I asked if they wanted a beer, but I drank water and and never left my drink unattended. If they put something in my water, it would become cloudy and noticeable. If I had suspicions, I could just refill my glass from the tap. The only time I drank alcohol with women was when we were at a restaurant and I never left the table until we were ready to go. Don't get drunk with them, let them drink if they want, but keep your senses. Also, drinking alcohol can lead to whiskey dick and I'm here to fuck them, not get drunk with them.
This is the utmost important advice you can follow. They can't drug you by blowing powder in your face or getting it absorbed through your skin. You have to ingest it.
Finally, get a place that requires ID for entrance, order all transportation yourself (I exclusively used Uber including picking them up and dropped off), and don't leave them unattended for too long. I avoided getting Rappi (food delivery) because that would mean I had to go downstairs to get it. But if I did, I would 100% tell her to come down with me. No way I'm leaving someone in my apartment by themselves. Instead, I ordered room service or went to a restaurant.
I had a great time in Medellin. Met up with a few ISG members and we went out every night. I'm going back next month to hook up with these same women.Good advice, VJ.
My, you are naive, aren't you?... Prostitution isn't illegal in Colombia, but soliciting sex (mongering) is. They just caught a guy from San Fran at the airport in Medellin for offering money for sex online, and then there's always the tale of Cuba Dave. Most risks can be managed effectively, but the first step is to be fully cognizant that the hobby carries a lot of risks in the best of circumstances.Before calling others "naive" please link us to the Colombian legal statute that confirms that offering sex for money (mongering) is illegal in Colombia. Pimping is illegal there, but that's a different matter altogether. Also Cubadave was charged under some obscure statute which prohibits using the media in ways that harm the reputation of the country, not mongering or pimping or anything like that. Finally, if you are talking about this asswipe, Thomas Renno from the Bay area who was nabbed at the airport in Medellin, 2019, he was up to way more than soliciting sex. WHOM he was soliciting was the issue, not the soliciting itself.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6870293/California-man-jailed-Colombia-seeking-sex-girls.html
Please do some research before engaging your mouth, or just drop out. That would benefit the community while saving others the time it takes to correct nonsense.
My, you are naive, aren't you? Prostitution has always been heavily controlled by organized crime, not just in Colombia but elsewhere. Colombia has a superstructure of cartels that are almost half a century old. Yes, most of the girls in Medellin and elsewhere in Colombia are independent and somewhat safe, but anywhere the papayas hang low you'll find people willing to pool their resources to pick them. Nowhere do papayas hang lower than when a guy has his pants around his ankles. What are you going to do? Go to a cop and say, "Hey, I brought a hooker up to my room and she rolled me!" Prostitution isn't illegal in Colombia, but soliciting sex (mongering) is. They just caught a guy from San Fran at the airport in Medellin for offering money for sex online, and then there's always the tale of Cuba Dave. Most risks can be managed effectively, but the first step is to be fully cognizant that the hobby carries a lot of risks in the best of circumstances.The organized crime part is that there are standing offers to otherwise independent girls to deliver guys to them. Not saying that these organized crime groups control the girls, or many of them in any case. But these deals are on a transactional basis. You get x dollars / pesos if you can get a guy drugged and then call us.
I think that part of the organized approach has increased a lot in the recent past.
My, you are naive, aren't you? Prostitution has always been heavily controlled by organized crime, not just in Colombia but elsewhere. Colombia has a superstructure of cartels that are almost half a century old. Yes, most of the girls in Medellin and elsewhere in Colombia are independent and somewhat safe, but anywhere the papayas hang low you'll find people willing to pool their resources to pick them. Nowhere do papayas hang lower than when a guy has his pants around his ankles. What are you going to do? Go to a cop and say, "Hey, I brought a hooker up to my room and she rolled me!" Prostitution isn't illegal in Colombia, but soliciting sex (mongering) is. They just caught a guy from San Fran at the airport in Medellin for offering money for sex online, and then there's always the tale of Cuba Dave. Most risks can be managed effectively, but the first step is to be fully cognizant that the hobby carries a lot of risks in the best of circumstances.And I'm very familiar with the Cuba Dave story. Nothing to do with organized crime there, just a test of their legislation against promotion of sex tourism (and a few other tidbits thrown in). I think the link between organized crime and prostitution is mainly true in the US, to a lesser extent in other places that have more liberal laws. And in CR connected with non-organized crime more commonly. Guys pimping their girlfriends / wives and certainly pimping the illegal residents in some cases.
Anthony2023
01-12-23, 06:37
I didn't drink alcohol with them in my apartment. I asked if they wanted a beer, but I drank water and and never left my drink unattended. If they put something in my water, it would become cloudy and noticeable. If I had suspicions, I could just refill my glass from the tap. The only time I drank alcohol with women was when we were at a restaurant and I never left the table until we were ready to go. Don't get drunk with them, let them drink if they want, but keep your senses. Also, drinking alcohol can lead to whiskey dick and I'm here to fuck them, not get drunk with them.
This is the utmost important advice you can follow. They can't drug you by blowing powder in your face or getting it absorbed through your skin. You have to ingest it.
Finally, get a place that requires ID for entrance, order all transportation yourself (I exclusively used Uber including picking them up and dropped off), and don't leave them unattended for too long. I avoided getting Rappi (food delivery) because that would mean I had to go downstairs to get it. But if I did, I would 100% tell her to come down with me. No way I'm leaving someone in my apartment by themselves. Instead, I ordered room service or went to a restaurant..Good advice about not drinking in the apartment. I have a question did any of them spent the night with you? I know obviously that wouldn't be the smartest thing to do but I'm wondering how many people here have done it with out any problems.
Anthony2023
01-12-23, 06:40
Snickers and M&Ms are sold at Exito supermarkets and smaller grocery stores too. Twizzlers licorice twists can't be found, though. And curiously, Campbells condensed soups are nowhere I've been.Thanks for that info.
DonCarlos1234
01-12-23, 11:32
The thing is -snip- you are really rich compared to them. It's been discussed before that a typical Colombian makes the equivalent of about $200-250 USD a month. So even if you're a gringo of modest means, you can afford more pussy than you can handle.So to those who believe that the girls in Provenza, who party at Sixttina are average, make $250/ month. LOL. Need your money? Think again. Or stay in Centro. You are a minority scraping the bottom WG's of Colombia. ELEVATE your mindset. Enjoy the real Colombia. It's there when you open your minds. AND YOUR WALLETS and it's still affordable.
Dcrist0527
01-12-23, 14:59
Guys,
I want to say thank you. The recent reports have sufficiently scared the shit out of me. Haha and I don't scare easily. Those that know me know I'm not the most cautious monger. I'm not particularly foolish (most of the time) but I operate with little fear. I use caution and trust my gut. But based on these reports, and some real time info from some amigas living in Medellin, I do think we're in a time where crimes against mongers are elevated. As others have said, we are attractive targets.
I haven't really thought this through so I'm just throwing an idea out there. Many of us, myself included, travel alone. When I'm in country, even many of my "real life" friends and family do not know my location. But I'm wondering if there is an opportunity to help each other out. As I think through this, I'm not sure it would work. Nor would it necessarily prevent anything. But I wonder if there is something we can do to "check in" with another monger in the country. My activities probably put me at a higher risk. I love going to the bars, drinking and partying with the girls. I enjoy that very much and without that, I'm not sure how frequently I would visit. I'm aware of the risk and I'm willing to take those risks. One thing I do is befriend the bouncers or doormen. They will absolutely look out for you if you treat them well and offer a small tip. (I can give examples! LOL) I'm not one of those obnoxious American drunks at all. I'm low key, I don't make a scene, etc. But I have had a night or two where I probably should have been robbed or drugged because I partied a little too hard.
My suggestion: is there any value in texting or messaging a fellow in-country monger to say here are my plans, here's when I should be back, and if you don't hear from me by a certain time, call the hotel staff for a wellness check? Like I said, I can envision many challenges to this. But I do want to think out of the box. We got a good thing in MDE and I worry that this uptick in druggings and robberies is a trend that can upset the apple cart.
You should have made the tramp take a sip of the beer when you asked her about it. "No I didn't touch" "alright bih take a sip" LOL.If she agreed to take a sip I would have prevented her. The last thing you want is a drugged puta in your hotel room.
This is the wiser perspective. It is sometimes difficult to see past momentary instincts of anger and vengeance.
If she agreed to take a sip I would have prevented her. The last thing you want is a drugged puta in your hotel room.
Provenza is the real Colombia?
So to those who believe that the girls in Provenza, who party at Sixttina are average, make $250/ month. LOL. Need your money? Think again. Or stay in Centro. You are a minority scraping the bottom WG's of Colombia. ELEVATE your mindset. Enjoy the real Colombia. It's there when you open your minds. AND YOUR WALLETS and it's still affordable.
First time poster here. Hoping to get some advice. Been mongering since '97 or so, mostly here in the US and have had a few sketchy experiences but nothing terrible. Have had 1 experience overseas and it was fine. Not great but not bad either.
I recently visited Medellin and Cartagena in a capacity that I wasn't able to engage in any mongering but I saw the opportunities first hand as I was able to go out in parque Lleras and in old city Cartagena. I have an opportunity to go back to Medellin very soon, like next 10 days or so and am planning on going for 3 nights. I've tried to read as much as I possibly could and generally do not try to be on any radar but this is my first time traveling out of the country where mongering will be a primary focal point of the trip and I'll be solo, so I want to be as cautious as possible. I actually read VJ's report below and would love to meet up with any of you who may be there, so I'm not totally alone in navigating this trip. Plus I think there's probably a little more safety in numbers.
I've read quite a bit about New Life and some of the strip clubs in centro. Thoughts on those places? I spent a little bit of time in centro last trip but didn't even notice those places. Obviously I saw the street girls but I've heard New Life and the strip clubs are a slightly higher caliber. Can anyone comment on their experiences there? Also I wouldn't mind a massage and then some action, I've read some good things about some of the massage parlors.
Last time I stayed in an Airbnb for a few nights and there was lots of signage about no sex tourism but I don't think they would have known since there was just a door with a code. I also stayed at an American hotel chain for a night and I think they would have stopped anyone from coming in altho I could be wrong. I have not booked a place to stay yet and would absolutely love some good ideas. I've read, it's better to not bring someone from parque Lleras back to your Airbnb or hotel but rather an hourly love motel. But I haven't seen any real advice on where there is one and how much these cost etc etc. So any advice here would be greatly appreciated especially in regards to where to bring someone you meet while your out and definitely where to stay because I'd like to get something booked before I arrive.
Finally any other advice people with experience would like to offer I'm all ears. I'm a frequent traveler, I've been all over the world except to Asia, I've also been a frequent monger, for over 20 years, but I'm also very cautious. Being drugged or robbed is a big concern I have for this trip. Planning on taking as many precautions as possible including deleting all financial apps from my phone and trying to be as aware as possible. Not leaving drinks unattended, not drinking alcohol or other drinks around girls. I'm not looking to develop ongoing mongering relationships with anyone or spend hours with anyone, just enjoy the sex and go (or have them go). Thanks and if you are going to be in Medellin soon, let me know, I'd love to meet some fellow mongers to go out with.
If she agreed to take a sip I would have prevented her. The last thing you want is a drugged puta in your hotel room.Correct answer. I've seen the story several times about the guy switching beers so the girl drugged herself. I doubt it ever happened. And it's definitely the last thing you want to do. Get rid of the girl, call the police if you must, but don't try to drug her.
Think about it. I'm 6'4" and 225#. I can guarantee, if a girl is in my room she's at least 110# lighter. Chances are she will use enough of the drug to make sure I go down, almost certainly a dangerous overdose. Put that same amount in a person half my size and there's a good chance I'm dealing with a dead girl. Even if she just gets part of the dosage, what do you do with an unconscious girl who needs medical attention? And how will the police respond?
If she agreed to take a sip I would have prevented her. The last thing you want is a drugged puta in your hotel room.No, the last thing you want in your hotel room is a dead puta.
Provenza is the real Colombia?Can you even get Colombian food in Provenza?
Voodoo Jones
01-12-23, 22:09
Good advice about not drinking in the apartment. I have a question did any of them spent the night with you? I know obviously that wouldn't be the smartest thing to do but I'm wondering how many people here have done it with out any problems.This was my first time in Medellin, so I wouldn't have felt comfortable with one staying the night. On my next trip, I will have one stay with me for a couple days (outside of Medellin) but I already have all her basic info and will get a copy of her ID when I book the place. I know this sounds dangerous to some guys, but I've done it before with two girls from Bogota. Again, I'll take all precautions and I have a certain level of trust with this one.
Anthony2023
01-12-23, 23:03
This was my first time in Medellin, so I wouldn't have felt comfortable with one staying the night. On my next trip, I will have one stay with me for a couple days (outside of Medellin) but I already have all her basic info and will get a copy of her ID when I book the place. I know this sounds dangerous to some guys, but I've done it before with two girls from Bogota. Again, I'll take all precautions and I have a certain level of trust with this one.OK so you have had somebody you've never met previously spend the night.
Yeah I'm feeling a little iffy about it but I did some digging going thru a chicks Facebook the other day that wants to spend the night and I seen she has her main family as friends on it going back years, so at least I know she's not on a back up account. Still you have to have your guard up tho.
Anthony2023
01-12-23, 23:06
If she agreed to take a sip I would have prevented her. The last thing you want is a drugged puta in your hotel room.Yes of course, if she agreed there would be no need for her to do it. I meant just to see what her reaction would be if you asked her to. That's how you know if there was something in it or not.
Mr Enternational
01-12-23, 23:12
So to those who believe that the girls in Provenza, who party at Sixttina are average, make $250/ month. LOL. Need your money? Think again. Or stay in Centro. You are a minority scraping the bottom WG's of Colombia. ELEVATE your mindset. Enjoy the real Colombia. It's there when you open your minds. AND YOUR WALLETS and it's still affordable.So last month in Barranquilla a chick that I mess with invited me to her coworker's birthday party. Not one minute during those few hours did someone come to me and say since you are here enjoying this real Colombia, you need to open your wallet. Maybe your mindset is scraping the bottom of what Colombia has to offer. Elevate it!
Anthony2023
01-13-23, 01:47
First time poster here. Hoping to get some advice. Been mongering since '97 or so, mostly here in the US and have had a few sketchy experiences but nothing terrible. Have had 1 experience overseas and it was fine. Not great but not bad either.
I recently visited Medellin and Cartagena in a capacity that I wasn't able to engage in any mongering but I saw the opportunities first hand as I was able to go out in parque Lleras and in old city Cartagena. I have an opportunity to go back to Medellin very soon, like next 10 days or so and am planning on going for 3 nights. I've tried to read as much as I possibly could and generally do not try to be on any radar but this is my first time traveling out of the country where mongering will be a primary focal point of the trip and I'll be solo, so I want to be as cautious as possible. I actually read VJ's report below and would love to meet up with any of you who may be there, so I'm not totally alone in navigating this trip. Plus I think there's probably a little more safety in numbers.
I've read quite a bit about New Life and some of the strip clubs in centro. Thoughts on those places? I spent a little bit of time in centro last trip but didn't even notice those places. Obviously I saw the street girls but I've heard New Life and the strip clubs are a slightly higher caliber. Can anyone comment on their experiences there? Also I wouldn't mind a massage and then some action, I've read some good things about some of the massage parlors..Ah so the family trip down there made you want to go back that quick, must of seen some good talent walking by out there huh.
I would also like to know what's the nicest closest hourly love motel to parque Lleras. I hear people talk about Ibiza but I don't know how far that is.
I'll be down there around the same time. Looking for maybe someone who would like to spilt a bottle at Isla since I won't be drinking much. Also go to this cigar lounge in Poblado I've heard about if anyone is into that.
El Corral, or some of the convenience stores between the bars microwave homemade arepas.
No, the last thing you want in your hotel room is a dead puta.
GeneHickman
01-13-23, 07:53
Guys,
I want to say thank you. The recent reports have sufficiently scared the shit out of me. Haha and I don't scare easily. Those that know me know I'm not the most cautious monger. I'm not particularly foolish (most of the time) but I operate with little fear. I use caution and trust my gut. But based on these reports, and some real time info from some amigas living in Medellin, I do think we're in a time where crimes against mongers are elevated. As others have said, we are attractive targets.
My suggestion: is there any value in texting or messaging a fellow in-country monger to say here are my plans, here's when I should be back, and if you don't hear from me by a certain time, call the hotel staff for a wellness check? Like I said, I can envision many challenges to this. But I do want to think out of the box. We got a good thing in MDE and I worry that this uptick in druggings and robberies is a trend that can upset the apple cart.A better plan is a like minded wingman. If you're going to be drugged and robbed it's going to be a 2-3 HR timeline, and then you or your body just lies there till found. What good would that do? It's what could mitigate that before it happens that is vital.
BarrioSpinners
01-13-23, 08:29
I haven't seen any real advice on where there is one and how much these .I was about to post the same question and I jumped in. I will be there for the first time next week, so I cannot advice one is better.
However I will start by checking these for Tinder chicas, price is on the websites:
- Thematic Luxury https://www.facebook.com/thematicluxury/ and Motel Ejecutive La 33 (it's on the same road, just opposite) next to Luna Lunera.
On Calle 51 avenida Colombia there are 3 motels one next to the other:
- Motel 3 the Suites http://www.3dsuite.co/.
- Thematic Suites www.thematicsuites.com.co.
- Lov suites.
There is a Map somewhere on this forum with more options.
Someone complained about Jacuzzi not always working, so if you are into that I would double check.
The cheapest one in El Centro will work for street action, but they have their own so no paperwork for me.
RahulMangla2009
01-13-23, 09:38
Hi all,
Planning on visiting Medellin and staying at mansion in 3rd week of January. I heard / read that they have new management now. Any thing to keep in mind or worry about safety wise? I have stayed there 4-5 times until 2019. But going after a long covid break now. Want to make sure the safety aspect is still there like before. Any one else going around then? Message me.
Ah so the family trip down there made you want to go back that quick, must of seen some good talent walking by out there huh.
I would also like to know what's the nicest closest hourly love motel to parque Lleras. I hear people talk about Ibiza but I don't know how far that is.
I'll be down there around the same time. Looking for maybe someone who would like to spilt a bottle at Isla since I won't be drinking much. Also go to this cigar lounge in Poblado I've heard about if anyone is into that.At night, Motel Ibiza is 10 minutes away from Parque Lleras by taxi. During the afternoon it might take 30 minutes or more.
El Corral, or some of the convenience stores between the bars microwave homemade arepas.I've never tried dead puta stuffed arepas.
I'm guessing that was supposed to be a response to a different post.
OK so you have had somebody you've never met previously spend the night.
Yeah I'm feeling a little iffy about it but I did some digging going thru a chicks Facebook the other day that wants to spend the night and I seen she has her main family as friends on it going back years, so at least I know she's not on a back up account. Still you have to have your guard up tho.Wanting to spend the night without first meeting you is a red flag. It's common for a girl to agree on an all night price, fuck once, make an excuse to leave and demand the full amount. It's better to set up a shorter time. If you're really enjoying it and feel okay with it, you can always extend.
I was about to post the same question and I jumped in. I will be there for the first time next week, so I cannot advice one is better.
However I will start by checking these for Tinder chicas, price is on the websites:
- Thematic Luxury https://www.facebook.com/thematicluxury/ and Motel Ejecutive La 33 (it's on the same road, just opposite) next to Luna Lunera.
On Calle 51 avenida Colombia there are 3 motels one next to the other:
- Motel 3 the Suites http://www.3dsuite.co/.
- Thematic Suites www.thematicsuites.com.co.
- Lov suites.
There is a Map somewhere on this forum with more options.
Someone complained about Jacuzzi not always working, so if you are into that I would double check.
The cheapest one in El Centro will work for street action, but they have their own so no paperwork for me.For every love motel I've visited, you have to call the front desk to get the jacuzzi turned on.
Hi all,
Planning on visiting Medellin and staying at mansion in 3rd week of January. I heard / read that they have new management now. Any thing to keep in mind or worry about safety wise? I have stayed there 4-5 times until 2019. But going after a long covid break now. Want to make sure the safety aspect is still there like before. Any one else going around then? Message me.No guarantees, but I think you're generally safe there. Like most doorman buildings, they record the information of any chica entering. That eliminates a lot of problems. IMO you should always stay in a place that takes chicas' IDs upon entering.
That said, if you're picky, be prepared to find talent on your own. What's available on site (day or night) is very inconsistent.
Ah so the family trip down there made you want to go back that quick, must of seen some good talent walking by out there huh.
I would also like to know what's the nicest closest hourly love motel to parque Lleras. I hear people talk about Ibiza but I don't know how far that is.
I'll be down there around the same time. Looking for maybe someone who would like to spilt a bottle at Isla since I won't be drinking much. Also go to this cigar lounge in Poblado I've heard about if anyone is into that.Can't DM you but would love to meet up, definitely have some apprehension about going out alone. Still haven't booked a place yet. Starting to consider the mansion unless someone has better advice.
Can you even get Colombian food in Provenza?Here.
https://www.mondongos.com.co/
Anthony2023
01-14-23, 02:17
Wanting to spend the night without first meeting you is a red flag. It's common for a girl to agree on an all night price, fuck once, make an excuse to leave and demand the full amount. It's better to set up a shorter time. If you're really enjoying it and feel okay with it, you can always extend.I agree. I'll make the decision to whether let her stay with me or not after spending time with her during our night out. I'm only considering it not because she's very pretty but because I vetted her social medias thoroughly and verified some of her parents and family members on it. I think if she was robbing or drugging people she wouldn't be using the same social media profiles going back years and have family on it.
Plus she's been messaging me like every day for the past month, I don't think anyone would bother with all that if they were just out to get you. They would just contact you a few days before. Either way I'm still going to have my guard up. If she decides she doesn't want to stay I'll be more than fine with that too. What she's asking for all night won't hurt my pockets either way. I would actually feel bad if I gave her less considering the amount of time she's going to spend with me just for dinner and a night out.
If she's as sweet as she is online I'm confident it will be more than worth it. You have to remember you're not the only option to these girls. On any given weekend they have guys lined up ready for her and she chose you to cater to you. While she's out having dinner and drinks with you she could have been making money pleasing others. Everyone should keep that in mind. That's the difference between a man just looking for a cheap fuck and a gentleman.
Anthony2023
01-14-23, 02:21
At night, Motel Ibiza is 10 minutes away from Parque Lleras by taxi. During the afternoon it might take 30 minutes or more.Thanks good to know. Do you know if they require a reservation online or do they take walk ins?
Just back frome Medellin. I had a girl that came over to my apartment for playtime and she said that she wanted to spend the night. I didn't have any issues with it but I had met her a few times before. All was good. Same price as regular session so I was happy with the arrangement.
Wanting to spend the night without first meeting you is a red flag. It's common for a girl to agree on an all night price, fuck once, make an excuse to leave and demand the full amount. It's better to set up a shorter time. If you're really enjoying it and feel okay with it, you can always extend.
Just back frome Medellin. I had a girl that came over to my apartment for playtime and she said that she wanted to spend the night. I didn't have any issues with it but I had met her a few times before. All was good. Same price as regular session so I was happy with the arrangement.Prior experience with a girl, in my opinion, is an important factor. You already know about performance and chances are good that she sees you as a regular source of income. Although it does happen, she's less likely to screw up a good arrangement.
John Gault
01-14-23, 14:50
Not terrible news but still not good.
In Nov. And now in Jan. Both times the wait to clear customs was an hour and 20 minutes. More upsetting to me was in the line to clear it was loaded with Gringos. I think experenced guys know how Costa Rica was ruined in the same way. Regulars already know that on Jan. First Colombia allows prices to rise. The taxi from the airport went from 90 K to 98 K. Once on the ground most everything also seemed to cost more. So far no rain in the 3 days I have been here. Well at least there is some good news. At the airport a guy tried to charge me 160 K and then at the dentist the guy quoted me 250 K to do some work. I showed him my total cash was 178 K and he told mr ok. Man they are hurting here and the urge to rip off is strong here.
Not terrible news but still not good.
In Nov. And now in Jan. Both times the wait to clear customs was an hour and 20 minutes. More upsetting to me was in the line to clear it was loaded with Gringos. I think experenced guys know how Costa Rica was ruined in the same way. Regulars already know that on Jan. First Colombia allows prices to rise. The taxi from the airport went from 90 K to 98 K. Once on the ground most everything also seemed to cost more. So far no rain in the 3 days I have been here. Well at least there is some good news. At the airport a guy tried to charge me 160 K and then at the dentist the guy quoted me 250 K to do some work. I showed him my total cash was 178 K and he told mr ok. Man they are hurting here and the urge to rip off is strong here.Colombia is a lot bigger than CR, I don't see the same happening. Prices are going up because inflation is out of control in Colombia.
Colombia is a lot bigger than CR, I don't see the same happening. Prices are going up because inflation is out of control in Colombia.Well, I have lived in and moved out of both CR and Colombia and I can say that without a doubt, the exact same thing is happening in Colombia (particularly Medellin, will not bother with the accent mark) now that happened in Costa Rica say 20 years ago. It will take a while more for the gringos to ruin it completely, but they will.
Voodoo Jones
01-14-23, 16:50
OK so you have had somebody you've never met previously spend the night.
Yeah I'm feeling a little iffy about it but I did some digging going thru a chicks Facebook the other day that wants to spend the night and I seen she has her main family as friends on it going back years, so at least I know she's not on a back up account. Still you have to have your guard up tho.No, you're misunderstanding me. The girls in Bogota I had hooked up 3 different nights before I decided to spend a weekend with them. I get all of their IDs to book the room.
I would never spend a night with someone unless I met them multiple times and even then, I've only done it with those 2 and now this 1 coming up.
I don't use Tinder, too anonymous, and never tried Facebook.
Colombia is a lot bigger than CR, I don't see the same happening. Prices are going up because inflation is out of control in Colombia.Well, I have lived in and moved out of both CR and Colombia and I can say that without a doubt, the exact same thing is happening in Colombia (particularly Medellin, will not bother with the accent mark) now that happened in Costa Rica say 20 years ago. It will take a while more for the gringos to ruin it completely, but they will.
Voodoo Jones
01-14-23, 17:42
Wanting to spend the night without first meeting you is a red flag. It's common for a girl to agree on an all night price, fuck once, make an excuse to leave and demand the full amount. It's better to set up a shorter time. If you're really enjoying it and feel okay with it, you can always extend.Agreed. My first meetings are usually a few hours. But they always want to meet again for longer and the vibe gets better each time we meet.
I rather spend most of the day together and send them home late. The 2 girls I hooked up with in Bogota left my place as late as 3 am before I decided I wanted to spend a weekend with them.
To be honest and so you guys don't get the wrong idea: spending the night is risky and I'm not recommending anyone here do it because you have to be smart with who you choose. I'm taking a calculated risk here and I'm confident enough with my approach. Not to sound like a dick, but I don't think the average monger is as capable. I had a friend take home girls from strip clubs and a club like Gustos without any issues though. Never tried it with these types of girls (pros). Not my thing.
Not terrible news but still not good.
In Nov. And now in Jan. Both times the wait to clear customs was an hour and 20 minutes. More upsetting to me was in the line to clear it was loaded with Gringos. I think experenced guys know how Costa Rica was ruined in the same way. Regulars already know that on Jan. First Colombia allows prices to rise. The taxi from the airport went from 90 K to 98 K. Once on the ground most everything also seemed to cost more. So far no rain in the 3 days I have been here. Well at least there is some good news. At the airport a guy tried to charge me 160 K and then at the dentist the guy quoted me 250 K to do some work. I showed him my total cash was 178 K and he told mr ok. Man they are hurting here and the urge to rip off is strong here.I also had a long wait at Customs in November. It was a Saturday and the lines were long and there weren't that many custom agents. They need more agents working the lines. It is definitely very annoying to wait so long after the plane ride. 98 k is a lot for the taxi to the city but they do have to pay that toll for the tunnel. There are cheaper options if you want to do the shared taxi.
All in all, Colombia is still a cheap country relatively speaking. For the same ride to the airport here, Uber charges me $80 so the 98 k taxi fare doesn't bother me that much.
Mondongos is close to Provenza but closer to Parque Lleras. La Corral is nearer to Provenza and there are convenience stores in Provenza that sell warmed over arepas and other fast food items along with beer, cigarettes, and condoms. Sambombi and oci. Mde are high end Provenza restaurants that serve Colombian food.
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https://www.mondongos.com.co/
Mr Enternational
01-14-23, 18:24
First Colombia allows prices to rise. The taxi from the airport went from 90 K to 98 K. Once on the ground most everything also seemed to cost more. I agree. The United States allowed prices to rise. Thailand allowed prices to rise. Mexico allowed prices to rise. France allowed prices to rise. What are all of these places doing allowing prices to rise? I would never raise the price of anything that I am selling or of a service that I am performing no matter what.
Here.
https://www.mondongos.com.co/I'm familiar with Mondongos, but that's not in Provenza.
It was a joke. Provenza is mostly upscale restaurants and bars, with various cuisines. It's about as far from the real Medellin as you can get. Don't get me wrong, I love Provenza, it's just not really a Colombian experience.
I agree. I'll make the decision to whether let her stay with me or not after spending time with her during our night out. I'm only considering it not because she's very pretty but because I vetted her social medias thoroughly and verified some of her parents and family members on it. I think if she was robbing or drugging people she wouldn't be using the same social media profiles going back years and have family on it.
Plus she's been messaging me like every day for the past month, I don't think anyone would bother with all that if they were just out to get you. They would just contact you a few days before. Either way I'm still going to have my guard up. If she decides she doesn't want to stay I'll be more than fine with that too. What she's asking for all night won't hurt my pockets either way. I would actually feel bad if I gave her less considering the amount of time she's going to spend with me just for dinner and a night out.
If she's as sweet as she is online I'm confident it will be more than worth it. You have to remember you're not the only option to these girls. On any given weekend they have guys lined up ready for her and she chose you to cater to you. While she's out having dinner and drinks with you she could have been making money pleasing others. Everyone should keep that in mind. That's the difference between a man just looking for a cheap fuck and a gentleman.No they don't. At least not at the price you'll probably pay. If a girl has guys lining up to see her every night, she's got no reason to waste time messaging you. She's going to be too busy getting laid and paid. A busy girl on Facebook sees 2 or 3 guys per week. A super busy one might do 5 or 6.
Thanks good to know. Do you know if they require a reservation online or do they take walk ins?No reservations. Any taxi driver should know it. It's on Autopista Sur just south of Mayorista. The taxi will pull up to the gate, where you'll place your order, just like a drive through. A few years ago they had a security guard checking girl's cedulas as well. Every room has a jacuzzi. The next level up has a sauna as well. I always ask for "una habitacion solo con jacuzzi", a room just with a jacuzzi. They'll tell you the number of your room. Gate opens taxi drives to your room, a lighted sign with the number will be flashing. When you get there the door will open. Just inside is a button to close the door.
Go up the stairs (unless you're driving, you'll have a 3rd floor room. Second floor rooms each have their own garage. At the top of the stairs you'll see:
Starting to your left, a mini fridge, with a cabinet above, a couch, a stripper pole, a sound system, a love chair (vaguely shaped like a high heel shoe), the bed, the jacuzzi, a bathroom sink, toilet and shower.
You need to call the desk to get the water for the jacuzzi turned on. You'll need to adjust the temperature (just warm, most of the girls don't have hot water) and turn off the water when it's full. If you need air, call the desk to get the air conditioning turned on. Rooms are for 6 hours.
When you're ready to leave call the front desk to get your check. They will swing out the mini fridge and inventory it, lock it up, total your bill and sound a buzzer. Open the cabinet above the fridge and your bill will be there. Pay the bill and ask for a taxi. They will call you when the taxi arrives.
Until the bill is paid and your ride has arrived the entry door can't be opened. During your stay you will not come face to face with anyone. It's all very discreet.
I forgot to mention the menu. On the desk is a menu and catalog, you can order sex toys and steak, or whatever you desire. The mini fridge contains drinks, snacks, lube, condoms, bubble bath and a couple of cheap toys.
Not terrible news but still not good.
In Nov. And now in Jan. Both times the wait to clear customs was an hour and 20 minutes. More upsetting to me was in the line to clear it was loaded with Gringos. I think experenced guys know how Costa Rica was ruined in the same way. Regulars already know that on Jan. First Colombia allows prices to rise. The taxi from the airport went from 90 K to 98 K. Once on the ground most everything also seemed to cost more. So far no rain in the 3 days I have been here. Well at least there is some good news. At the airport a guy tried to charge me 160 K and then at the dentist the guy quoted me 250 K to do some work. I showed him my total cash was 178 K and he told mr ok. Man they are hurting here and the urge to rip off is strong here.When I arrived December 13 the wait was only 20 minutes at 2:30 pm. There are always guys at the airport trying to gouge gringos. I had to wait 20 minutes for my rental car to be brought from an offsite lot and must have been asked 50 times if I needed a taxi.
It's in the dry season now. You should have mostly good weather for the next month or so.
Rate increases happen every January 1st. Taxis, buses and the Metro all raise their rates, this includes the metered yellow taxis.
Thanks good to know. Do you know if they require a reservation online or do they take walk ins?Walk-ins are all I've done but you may want to book ahead depending on the amenities you want or are looking for in a room. It's really convenient and they don't even check cedula (during my visits).
Anthony2023
01-14-23, 22:51
Agreed. My first meetings are usually a few hours. But they always want to meet again for longer and the vibe gets better each time we meet.
I rather spend most of the day together and send them home late. The 2 girls I hooked up with in Bogota left my place as late as 3 am before I decided I wanted to spend a weekend with them.
To be honest and so you guys don't get the wrong idea: spending the night is risky and I'm not recommending anyone here do it because you have to be smart with who you choose. I'm taking a calculated risk here and I'm confident enough with my approach. Not to sound like a dick, but I don't think the average monger is as capable. I had a friend take home girls from strip clubs and a club like Gustos without any issues though. Never tried it with these types of girls (pros). Not my thing.I definitely would not consider letting a girl I just met at a bar or club spend the night.
You can at least vet a girl you been talking to online for weeks but with a girl you just met at a club you are taking a huge risk.
Anthony2023
01-14-23, 23:00
Can't DM you but would love to meet up, definitely have some apprehension about going out alone. Still haven't booked a place yet. Starting to consider the mansion unless someone has better advice.I'm staying at a high rise Airbnb because it has probably the best balcony view above the city. But from what I hear I would have gone with the energy building as a second choice.
That's fine. When you get here just post on here in the travel announcements section where you'll be at around what time and if I see it I'll reply back.
MiamiSammy
01-14-23, 23:41
I agree. The United States allowed prices to rise. Thailand allowed prices to rise. Mexico allowed prices to rise. France allowed prices to rise. What are all of these places doing allowing prices to rise? I would never raise the price of anything that I am selling or of a service that I am performing no matter what.Seriously? You ***** about the price of a taxi going up without any understanding that the price of the peso has plummeted in the last year. Your $32 taxi ride a year ago ($90 k at $2800 COP /$1 USD) now actually costs you only $21 ($98 k at $4700 COP /$1 USD). You're getting the best bargain in the world- cheap hotels, cheap food, and cheap top shelf pussy. Stop whining.
Seriously? You ***** about the price of a taxi going up without any understanding that the price of the peso has plummeted in the last year. Your $32 taxi ride a year ago ($90 k at $2800 COP /$1 USD) now actually costs you only $21 ($98 k at $4700 COP /$1 USD). You're getting the best bargain in the world- cheap hotels, cheap food, and cheap top shelf pussy. Stop whining.2800 cop for 1 usd a year ago? What are you smoking? We haven't seen these rates since like 2019. A year ago exchange rate was about 4000 or so, and the airport ride was about 60-65 k pesos or about $15.
By the way, USD has been plummeting vs COP in the last few days. From 4900's to 4600's.
AirBnbs are up 50-100% year over year in certain areas and buildings.
2800 cop for 1 usd a year ago? What are you smoking? We haven't seen these rates since like 2019. A year ago exchange rate was about 4000 or so, and the airport ride was about 60-65 k pesos or about $15.
By the way, USD has been plummeting vs COP in the last few days. From 4900's to 4600's.
AirBnbs are up 50-100% year over year in certain areas and buildings.You're both way off.
1 year ago exchange rate was around 3800. Last time it was 2800 was summer of 2018. I'm guessing he screwed up punching 3800 into the calculator and didn't realize it.
Taxi from the airport 1 year ago was 90 k. It hasn't been 70 k since 2017.
Taxi rates from the airport are set by the government and go up every year. The same is true for the metered yellow taxis and the airport buses.
If you go upstairs to the departures level you might be able to strike a deal with a yellow taxi dropping someone off.
I definitely would not consider letting a girl I just met at a bar or club spend the night.
You can at least vet a girl you been talking to online for weeks but with a girl you just met at a club you are taking a huge risk.Yet, the majority of druggings which are reported involve girls vetted online.
I've been meeting people from online since about the time you learned to walk. What you think you know about anyone online is what they want you to know. In reality you're at a much higher risk believing a girl online is safe than a guy pulling a girl from a club who's aware of the risks.
2023, watch your drink this year boys.
Anthony2023
01-15-23, 20:27
Yet, the majority of druggings which are reported involve girls vetted online.
I've been meeting people from online since about the time you learned to walk. What you think you know about anyone online is what they want you to know. In reality you're at a much higher risk believing a girl online is safe than a guy pulling a girl from a club who's aware of the risks.I doubt you were meeting anyone on the internet in the 80's. If you were I'the say you should of gone out more.
Andersson25
01-15-23, 23:09
Are the Cabaas motel in Manila-area similar to Ibiza? I was planning to use that place and booked an apartment close.
Walk-ins are all I've done but you may want to book ahead depending on the amenities you want or are looking for in a room. It's really convenient and they don't even check cedula (during my visits).
Andersson25
01-15-23, 23:15
Same to you, stay safe! I have been out drinking and hitting on chicks alone most of my life, but I kind of like the idea of having a drinking-buddy to watch my ass in Medellin.
2023, watch your drink this year boys.
Are the Cabaas motel in Manila-area similar to Ibiza? I was planning to use that place and booked an apartment close.Not nearly as nice as Ibiza. But obviously more convenient.
MiamiSammy
01-15-23, 23:49
You're both way off.
1 year ago exchange rate was around 3800. Last time it was 2800 was summer of 2018. I'm guessing he screwed up punching 3800 into the calculator and didn't realize it.
Taxi from the airport 1 year ago was 90 k. It hasn't been 70 k since 2017.
Taxi rates from the airport are set by the government and go up every year. The same is true for the metered yellow taxis and the airport buses.
If you go upstairs to the departures level you might be able to strike a deal with a yellow taxi dropping someone off.You missed the most important part- "You're getting the best bargain in the world- cheap hotels, cheap food, and cheap top shelf pussy. Stop whining. ".
You missed the most important part- "You're getting the best bargain in the world- cheap hotels, cheap food, and cheap top shelf pussy. Stop whining. ".Damn right!! I'm in Medellin and actually regret not staying longer. You got to put more work in to get what you want, but the option are endless.
I'll leave my full detail report after my trip. Mainly just on my experience and not reviewing the ladies I have seen so far.
To the ones on the fence about coming, just do it. Trust me. I literally just got done banging this hottie. 2 rounds BBFS. Started in the shower, but had to stop cause she started to moan load. Got to stay discrete. Finish it off in the bed and just make out when her volume raise up again.
Got distracted! Anyway Just got to keep your head up, keep your eyes moving. Don't drink around girls in your room if you can avoid it. And most importantly, if you turn your back away from your drink and it's open. Assume it's fuck with that bad bojo.
But for my first time mongers, I'll say visit Tijuana first. It's a buffet in Tijuana, just here in Medellin, you just got to put in more work.
First Colombia allows prices to rise. The taxi from the airport went from 90 K to 98 K. Once on the ground most everything also seemed to cost more. So far no rain in the 3 days I have been here. Well at least there is some good news. At the airport a guy tried to charge me 160 K and then at the dentist the guy quoted me 250 K to do some work. I showed him my total cash was 178 K and he told mr ok. Man they are hurting here and the urge to rip off is strong here.Even the Hotel Nutribar in El centro has been stuck around $52 a night even if booking it around March time frame. I paid $22 a night back November. I'll probably just go the Airbnb route, which is cheaper, but it probably won't be located in El centro.
It is a double edged sword. The more we praise Colombia, the more men come to Colombia, and then it changes and we all complain about it. Ha ha ha. I am relatively new to Colombia myself so I have no right to complain about more guys coming to Colombia.
I have always enjoyed visiting Thailand and the Philippines for mongering but since covid, I have not been back. I have been searching for closer destinations to America. First I went to Costa Rica and then Mexico and now I visited Medellin, Colombia for my past two trips. From the East Coast, Medellin is about 5 1/2 hours or 3 1/2 from Florida so it fits my criteria for a country that is closer to America. From the West Coast, Mexico is closer and if I lived in Texas or California, I would prefer Guadalajara, Mexico due to the flight times and cost but from the East Coast, Medellin is the best bet for best close-by mongering country in my humble opinion. Thailand and the Philippines still have a special place in my heart and I will be back soon when I am ready to take a longer trip.
For those who want to save money, the casas and the streetwalkers in El Centro are a good value. I prefer the girls on Facebook and from the first trip to the second trip, I have been learning a lot and I expect good things on FB for my third trip. Solid GFE sessions with young attractive girls in my hotel room is what I have getting and the price range generally has been 200 to 300 mil for sessions that are 90 minutes to 2 hours. In my own negotiations with FB girls, I start out with 200 mil and some accept but there are number of girls who say no and we end up with 250 to 300 mil plus taxi.
There is a large number of young attractive girls on FB willing to have sex for money with gringos for the right price and my biggest problem is not enough time or energy to see all the girls I would like to see.
On this website, there has been this debate about older mongers versus younger mongers. I am an older monger in my late 50's. As with all older mongers, I used to be a younger monger in my 20's and 30's so I understand the mindset of younger mongers. When I was younger, I also thought that girls prefer to be with younger better looking guys than those old out of shape guys in their 50's or 60's and so they were having more fun with me rather than those perverts who are old enough to be their grandfathers. Now that I am one of those perverts, I can see that young attractive girls can also appreciate older gringos who will treat them nice and will pay them the gringo going rate and the girls make the effort to try to make you happy. There are enough girls for everyone and we can all enjoy the girls of Medellin. And there are more than enough attractive girls who are willing to have sex with men old enough to be their grandfathers so it is not a problem for older mongers.
I will be back in Medellin in a few weeks and will post some comments about my trip. Once again, it will be an all FB trip.
Hillbilly69
01-16-23, 16:03
This girl I am pretty sure works in centro in front of Botero Hotel, she is a very big girl correct? Her friend stole one of my friends cell phones and attempted to steal another friends cell phone 3 days after I warned him about her, about half the Medellin police force showed up LOL. Gang of thieves for sure.
It is with great resentment and sadness that I am about to post what I am going to post but I feel as though the information needs to be out there to help fellow mongers in medellin to avoid what happened to me.
So anyways I just recently got back to medellin after having been gone for 2 months working in the US. I had been messaging this lesbian marimacha chick that I met on a previous trip back in May while I was on my way here. It turns out she was also pregnant and I kinda have a fetish for pregnant women LOL.
Anyways so as soon as I arrived I grabbed the bus from the airport (which is now 14 mil by the way) and headed to terminal del norte. I had Yei (the pregnant lesbian chick) meet me there, and since I had my suitcase and backpack and all my belongings with me I told her I wanted to go to my apartment in santo domingo (I know big mistake, especially with a chick I've only seen one time prior). Anyways we make it back to my place, everything is in order just how I left it in November. She says she wanted a beer an guila light, I tell her she shouldn't be drinking since she is 8 months pregnant but I guess one light beer wouldn't hurt. I then go to the local tienda in my barrio and buy 2 Aguila lights and come back. I open them both and take a swig of mine and then hop in the shower since I was all sweaty and hadn't showered since I left California. When I get out of the shower yei is in my room mopping up something on the floor and I'm like what happened and she's like oh I accidentally spilled the beers. And I'm like ok whatever. So then I go to grab my beer and low and behold the beer is more full than it had been after my first swig before I got in the shower. Upon further inspection I also noticed that it had alot more foam than it did before my shower and it had some kind of white powder on the neck of the bottle. So I questioned her about it but she denied putting anything in my beer, I however didn't believe her and I went and dumped it out..
MiamiSammy
01-16-23, 19:21
So. I've always based myself in Medellin / Laureles. I just love it there, but I get feeling guilty for not checking out other spots. I've been to Pereira, Cartagena, Barranquilla, and Santa Marta. I'm on my way back in a couple weeks. Anywhere else I should be checking out? I keep hearing about Cucutá, Cali has always been interesting, and prices look REALLY good in Bucaramanga. Or should I just stay in Laureles again?
So. I've always based myself in Medellin / Laureles. I just love it there, but I get feeling guilty for not checking out other spots. I've been to Pereira, Cartagena, Barranquilla, and Santa Marta. I'm on my way back in a couple weeks. Anywhere else I should be checking out? I keep hearing about Cucut, Cali has always been interesting, and prices look REALLY good in Bucaramanga. Or should I just stay in Laureles again?If you're brave enough and it's within your budget, rent a car and do some touring. You could easily compare Pereira, Armenia and Manizales. Or start from Bogota and hit Tunja, Bucaramanga and Cucuta.
Driving in Colombia is a challenge and can be stressful, but you get to see more that way.
RiceRocket99
01-16-23, 22:07
I'm usually based in MDE as well and have been to all the places you mentioned, including Bucaramanga and Cucuta. IMHO, go to Bucaramanga: do not pass go, do not collect 200 mil pesos. Good luck! As for me, I'm going to have to check out either Pasto or Ibague (letting out my secret of unjaded Colombian cities 😬)
So. I've always based myself in Medellin / Laureles. I just love it there, but I get feeling guilty for not checking out other spots. I've been to Pereira, Cartagena, Barranquilla, and Santa Marta. I'm on my way back in a couple weeks. Anywhere else I should be checking out? I keep hearing about Cucut, Cali has always been interesting, and prices look REALLY good in Bucaramanga. Or should I just stay in Laureles again?
Just curious has anyone on here meet up with any webcam girls? I've talked to one or 2, I'd consider meeting up with. Just curious what other peoples experiences are?
Anthony2023
01-16-23, 23:54
What's the deal with the phones?
Is it easy to bypass iCloud lock in Colombia? It is damn near impossible to unlock here in the states unless you take it to apple.
Most phone repair shops won't bother with that but if you're lucky maybe $20-$60 depending on the phone to sell for parts. I'm guessing they just re sell for parts?
Yeah Tijuana is a lot easier as many women speak english. There are also telegram groups with women being advertised and reviewed. Much smaller than Medellin I assume. I'm in Cali and easier for me to get to Tijuana but hey got to graduate now will be in Medellin at the end of the month.
Damn right!! I'm in Medellin and actually regret not staying longer. You got to put more work in to get what you want, but the option are endless.
I'll leave my full detail report after my trip. Mainly just on my experience and not reviewing the ladies I have seen so far.
To the ones on the fence about coming, just do it. Trust me. I literally just got done banging this hottie. 2 rounds BBFS. Started in the shower, but had to stop cause she started to moan load. Got to stay discrete. Finish it off in the bed and just make out when her volume raise up again.
Got distracted! Anyway Just got to keep your head up, keep your eyes moving. Don't drink around girls in your room if you can avoid it. And most importantly, if you turn your back away from your drink and it's open. Assume it's fuck with that bad bojo.
But for my first time mongers, I'll say visit Tijuana first. It's a buffet in Tijuana, just here in Medellin, you just got to put in more work.
This girl I am pretty sure works in centro in front of Botero Hotel, she is a very big girl correct? Her friend stole one of my friends cell phones and attempted to steal another friends cell phone 3 days after I warned him about her, about half the Medellin police force showed up LOL. Gang of thieves for sure.Yes you are describing the girlfriend of the girl I was messing with. I was with the pregnant butch one that is smaller and 8 months pregnant. They were in cahoots though, it was the bigger one that showed up to "help" the pregnant one because she was complaining that she was in pain and needed help walking. It was when I went down the hill to meet Joanna (the one your describing) that's when the butch one relieved me of my pertenencias that I still had in my back pack. It's my own fault for being too trusting and letting stupid be*tches come to my apartment that I don't really know.
She was a mutual friend of another girl that I've known for about 2 years and I was extending that trust I had built with the other girl onto her since they were mutual friends, big mistake!
Anyways I'm over it already!
I already got another laptop and camera, still need a new tablet but I've been making due with my phone for now. No ones come back to my place and tried to break in or anything and I doubt by now they would even remember how to get here or which exact apartment is mine.
I've still been going down to Centro and enjoying my low hanging mangos LOL. I got BBFS cip from a SWer I found by the church this morning for 30 mil (she was older, but gave great service).
I would post more about my endeavors on here but during my last trip everyone just wanted to argue with me about the stupidest shit like ATM fees or wasting money in strip clubs.
I only came back on here to warn fellow mongers about these 2 girls that are stealing from people.
-Gabacho Out.
RahulMangla2009
01-17-23, 07:09
Hi all, this is a pretty stupid post for some, but I really really have the itch to try BBFS. Never done it before, and I am getting into my 40's soon. So, was really hoping to get some BB action once or twice atleast during this upcoming trip to Medellin. Need your advice.
I realize that there is a risk factor that is not zero for sure. But, I am trying to minimize HIV risk as much as possible. So, was hoping to see only selectively someone who is having a family, has kids, is not a 'professional' who is visiting strip clubs etc. I. e. Someone who is homely person and not going out for sex every other day with strangers. I think I have found a few FB girls like that profile. I am planning to carry the oraquick hiv test kit with me and have the girl do a quick saliva test before the act.
Any ideas on what the risk factor could be in the above for contracting hiv? Sorry I know I am being too paranoid / asking a stupid question, but hopefully you understand from the pov of someone who has never had BBFS before.
Same to you, stay safe!....I have travelled all over the world and Colombia is the only country in which I was attacked. Twice. I have no illusions. Nevertheless Germany is the only country in which I had stuff actually stolen, go figure.
Milovanovic
01-17-23, 16:30
Just curious has anyone on here meet up with any webcam girls? I've talked to one or 2, I'd consider meeting up with. Just curious what other peoples experiences are?Have met 2, what do you want to know? They live, breathe, fuck and nothing's like on webcam, if you were interested in that part of it. One was an insane Venezuelan with a couple of friends in the same business, who would've been available apparently. She fucked like crazy and I ran out of cash accidentally, but she didn't care and kept on sending me pictures from her show. Lost interest after the first time, she was too tol. And the other was one a referral from another girl, would not repeat.
Both told me that this webcam shit is a show and they've been nothing like on cam IRL. Not sure that is the answer you were looking for.
But wondering about San Diego. La isla is charging 400 k for 45-1 HR everything but you have to add the 50 k entry and 180 k bucket price if you drink beer vs just going to a smaller club. San Diego is close but never been. Any idea from someone recently what cover, girls price total including room and like what a bucket of beer would cost? If you prefer to DM me its fine. Are the girls that much hotter at isla, f2. I was happy but not overly impressed at fase 2 o isla but it could have been the holiday crew.
Hi all, this is a pretty stupid post for some, but I really really have the itch to try BBFS. Never done it before, and I am getting into my 40's soon. So, was really hoping to get some BB action once or twice atleast during this upcoming trip to Medellin. Need your advice.
I realize that there is a risk factor that is not zero for sure. But, I am trying to minimize HIV risk as much as possible. So, was hoping to see only selectively someone who is having a family, has kids, is not a 'professional' who is visiting strip clubs etc. I. e. Someone who is homely person and not going out for sex every other day with strangers. I think I have found a few FB girls like that profile. I am planning to carry the oraquick hiv test kit with me and have the girl do a quick saliva test before the act.
Any ideas on what the risk factor could be in the above for contracting hiv? Sorry I know I am being too paranoid / asking a stupid question, but hopefully you understand from the pov of someone who has never had BBFS before.There are some drugs that you can take to minimize the risk of HIV during your trip. PrEP pills. You can read about it on the internet. I actually have more concerns about catching STDs when I bareback. Herpes, gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis are real risks. The more you bareback, the more likely you will eventually catch something. Just the nature of the beast. If you really want to minimize catching something, one strategy would be to have the girl take a STD and HIV test and then spend your trip with your special tested girl or two. If you do that, you don't have to have the criteria of kids, etc. So far I have been lucky and have tested negative after two trips in Medellin with barebacking.
As for taking the risk of barebacking and there are real risks as you know, there is something really pleasurable about sliding your cock bareback into a young attractive girl's tight wet pussy. Can't beat that feeling.
Hello.
Preparing for my up coming trip to Medellin and reaching out on SA and Facebook initially and see what's available and pricing.
I am getting some crazy prices from the ladies $250 US for some and when I asked for Pesos 1,100 mil and another one asked $800 mil raw WTF.
Its crazy.
Granted I just started and the chicks closer to 30 yrs old I guess more experienced are asking more. Last year I was paying around 250 mil.
Hello.
Preparing for my up coming trip to Medellin and reaching out on SA and Facebook initially and see what's available and pricing.
I am getting some crazy prices from the ladies $250 US for some and when I asked for Pesos 1,100 mil and another one asked $800 mil raw WTF.
Its crazy.
Granted I just started and the chicks closer to 30 yrs old I guess more experienced are asking more. Last year I was paying around 250 mil.Prices are similar to what you paid last year - 200 to 300 mil seems to be the going rate still based on last trip two months ago. You are just finding the wrong girls right now but keep looking and you will be fine.
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/prep/index.html
Take PrEP which will significantly reduce your risks to HIV. You may still get exposed to other STDs but those are treatable.
Hi all, this is a pretty stupid post for some, but I really really have the itch to try BBFS. Never done it before, and I am getting into my 40's soon. So, was really hoping to get some BB action once or twice atleast during this upcoming trip to Medellin. Need your advice.
I realize that there is a risk factor that is not zero for sure. But, I am trying to minimize HIV risk as much as possible. So, was hoping to see only selectively someone who is having a family, has kids, is not a 'professional' who is visiting strip clubs etc. I. e. Someone who is homely person and not going out for sex every other day with strangers. I think I have found a few FB girls like that profile. I am planning to carry the oraquick hiv test kit with me and have the girl do a quick saliva test before the act.
Any ideas on what the risk factor could be in the above for contracting hiv? Sorry I know I am being too paranoid / asking a stupid question, but hopefully you understand from the pov of someone who has never had BBFS before.
Hi all, this is a pretty stupid post for some, but I really really have the itch to try BBFS. Never done it before, and I am getting into my 40's soon. So, was really hoping to get some BB action once or twice atleast during this upcoming trip to Medellin. Need your advice.
I realize that there is a risk factor that is not zero for sure. But, I am trying to minimize HIV risk as much as possible. So, was hoping to see only selectively someone who is having a family, has kids, is not a 'professional' who is visiting strip clubs etc. I. e. Someone who is homely person and not going out for sex every other day with strangers. I think I have found a few FB girls like that profile. I am planning to carry the oraquick hiv test kit with me and have the girl do a quick saliva test before the act.
Any ideas on what the risk factor could be in the above for contracting hiv? Sorry I know I am being too paranoid / asking a stupid question, but hopefully you understand from the pov of someone who has never had BBFS before.If you're that worried about it just take prep a few days before and after you do it. Truvada, Biktarvy, Apretude, Cabotegravir shot, etc. Do some research to mitigate your risk.
Mr Enternational
01-17-23, 21:48
Preparing for my up coming trip to Medellin and reaching out on SA and Facebook initially and see what's available and pricing.
I am getting some crazy prices from the ladies $250 US for some and when I asked for Pesos 1,100 mil and another one asked $800 mil raw WTF.
Its crazy.
Granted I just started and the chicks closer to 30 yrs old I guess more experienced are asking more. Last year I was paying around 250 mil.Stop being cheap and pay it. It costs less than home. Everybody knows all the elite top shelf chicks are on SA. Why are you trying to cheap out on them? They know their worth.
You're getting the best bargain in the world- cheap hotels, cheap food, and cheap top shelf pussy. Stop whining.
Lucky Nuts
01-17-23, 23:23
Hello.
Preparing for my up coming trip to Medellin and reaching out on SA and Facebook initially and see what's available and pricing.
I am getting some crazy prices from the ladies $250 US for some and when I asked for Pesos 1,100 mil and another one asked $800 mil raw WTF.
Its crazy.
Granted I just started and the chicks closer to 30 yrs old I guess more experienced are asking more. Last year I was paying around 250 mil.Stating the obvious but you're doing something wrong. Keep trying to improve your delivery. Don't ask for raw like on your first message. For sure the 30 year old chicas are fine with normal prices. Don't ask them how much. Tell them you pay 200 or 250 mil if they want to visit you. In the heat of the moment, if they insist on using a condom, tell them you are willing to pay a propina for bareback if that's what you want. My experience it's the 18 and 19 year old post covid chicas expecting crazy money like 350 or even 400 mil pesos.
Maybe you're fishing in the wrong pond and haven't found the Bello chicas. At least half of the FB chicas live up north there. Search in the reports of distinction how to find the Facebook chicas.
If any chica wants to discuss prices in dollars tell her to change over to COP. If she doesn't change then ignore her and move on to the other chicas. There are so many so don't get overly focused on one for any reason. And never ever discuss prices with the chicas in dollars. Never!
Mr Enternational
01-17-23, 23:36
Have met 2, what do you want to know? They live, breathe, fuck and nothing's like on webcam, if you were interested in that part of it.
Both told me that this webcam shit is a show and they've been nothing like on cam IRL. Not sure that is the answer you were looking for.Because mfs want the fantasy to be reality. After filling up on porn all of their lives, nobody expects to have a shit coated dick after they pull it out of a chick's ass for the first time. The movie did not show that part. Remember Henry Winkler is afraid to death of motorcycles, but he sure made a good Fonzie.
Hello.
Preparing for my up coming trip to Medellin and reaching out on SA and Facebook initially and see what's available and pricing.
I am getting some crazy prices from the ladies $250 US for some and when I asked for Pesos 1,100 mil and another one asked $800 mil raw WTF.
Its crazy.
Granted I just started and the chicks closer to 30 yrs old I guess more experienced are asking more. Last year I was paying around 250 mil.When is your trip? I'm in town now and I'm dropping 150 to 300 COP range. And don't put all yours eggs on Facebook and seeking. Your option will be limitless here. You got the brothels. They come up in either a silk top or lingerie and showcase in front of you. Above 7's in my opinion. The two I pick are solid 8. One of them got her WhatsApp number and brought her to my place for 2 more rounds bare. But so far, I been to energy and tantra and no complaints what so ever. All under 170 for the hour at the spa.
LoveItHere69
01-18-23, 02:47
I have travelled all over the world and Colombia is the only country in which I was attacked. Twice. I have no illusions. Nevertheless Germany is the only country in which I had stuff actually stolen, go figure.Only time I was attacked broad daylight and people everywhere but nobody gets involved buy more bad people. One turned into five. Phone taken but when they ran they ran into police a block away and I got my phone back and the one guy got his ass kicked by the police. Gave both police 80,000 the next day. -Mercedes Park Cucuta.
First time bitten by a dog in well lit shopping area at night. Dogs run in packs late at night and many streets are pitch black. If even two go into attack mode you could be maimed or killed. -Cucuta.
Walked down a street with dogs in the daytime and no problems because owners and people out. But when I returned later that night (well lit street) the dogs got territorial and followed me growling. - Nicaragua.
I avoid going out at night in most areas now and carry pepper spray. Silly girl in Medellin saw my can and I explained what it was. But that was not enough. When I was in the shower she pushed the button for just a second. But with the fan on. Well we were coughing hard and could not stop. Snot running out our noses. Ahhh the good times!
Voodoo Jones
01-18-23, 03:27
Hello.
Preparing for my up coming trip to Medellin and reaching out on SA and Facebook initially and see what's available and pricing.
I am getting some crazy prices from the ladies $250 US for some and when I asked for Pesos 1,100 mil and another one asked $800 mil raw WTF.
Its crazy.
Granted I just started and the chicks closer to 30 yrs old I guess more experienced are asking more. Last year I was paying around 250 mil.Keep looking. The price range is much bigger in Medellin because it's a very popular mongering city and prices have increased a lot the past year. I had one quote me $200 USD for a day. Another wanted 450 K COP per hour and wouldn't lower the rate even if I wanted to meet longer. I passed on both of them and found women who would spend half the day with me for 500 K or less (after our initial date of 2-3 hours).
And as some of the other members suggested, look for other opportunities (prepagos, brothels, etc.) because the women online might reschedule or cancel last minute.
As I recently posted, here's the report I promised. Quick background, first time to MDE. Been to the Su many times in past and a few other places. I'm going to try to write this with newbies in mind and hopefully it is useful and maybe even interesting to vets. I will preface it by saying, I got very useful info on this site. But damn had to sift through 100's of pages and 6 months worth to get some of my basic questions answered. I dare not post and ask fir a little help, as seems anyone who does is told to RTFF. Thar's a shame. I get it about the guys asking a million questions. But I just wanted basics, girl friendly hotels, what to watch out for at airport and other scamd, best areas, where and how the casas work. Anyway, here goes. I'll focus on everything else here, and the girls in another post.
I went for a full week, weekend to weekend. I was supposed to gave a wingman but he bailed, no. Problem fot me. Based on board input I considered Poblado (Hotel M or otherwise), El Centro, and Laureles.
I crossed off staying in El Centro as a first timer for obvious reasons. I liked how Poblado sounded wirh more gringos and a target rich nice area. But wanting something different from the Su and over-commercialization of our little hobby, I chose Laureles. Not only did I want to avoid the constant hussle and poor service in the Su now, I also didn't like the thought of being a target just by being in Poblado.
I stayed at Hotel Dorado la 70 in Laureles. I really liked it there. I knew from the board it is not a target rich area, but is nice, close to El Centro, safe and anything you need in walking distance. I saw a few gringo tourists, but it is mainly an upscale (by Colombia standards) local community. I felt very safe walking around even at night, although I did not venture farby foot. Everything can be found in 4 or 5 blocks on that main street right in front of hotel. It is very vibrant with open restaurants, clubs and bars, street vendors, etc. It goes late night. It is noisy but walls are pretty sound proofed...Late question but you mention that you stay at Hotel Dorado la 70 and its chica friendly, I want to know do you book it for single guest or double occupancy, I am worried that they be not give me hard time due to that when I reach there, thanks in advance.
RahulMangla2009
01-18-23, 04:09
Fantastic advice. I had not thought about PREP and just read about it online. Going to an appointment to a planned parenthood tomorrow. I don't want to have any paper trails etc. So, will be avoiding using insurance information. I believe the generic prep pills are pretty cheap. But, just in case, I decide to use the truvada / descovy, would you know if I use the insurance, will they send any kind of paperwork / bills to my home? I really hope not, and get in trouble with family.
There are some drugs that you can take to minimize the risk of HIV during your trip. PrEP pills. You can read about it on the internet. I actually have more concerns about catching STDs when I bareback. Herpes, gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis are real risks. The more you bareback, the more likely you will eventually catch something. Just the nature of the beast. If you really want to minimize catching something, one strategy would be to have the girl take a STD and HIV test and then spend your trip with your special tested girl or two. If you do that, you don't have to have the criteria of kids, etc. So far I have been lucky and have tested negative after two trips in Medellin with barebacking.
As for taking the risk of barebacking and there are real risks as you know, there is something really pleasurable about sliding your cock bareback into a young attractive girl's tight wet pussy. Can't beat that feeling.
RahulMangla2009
01-18-23, 04:10
Fantastic advice. I had not thought about PREP and just read about it online. Going to an appointment to a planned parenthood tomorrow. I don't want to have any paper trails etc. So, will be avoiding using insurance information. I believe the generic prep pills are pretty cheap. But, just in case, I decide to use the truvada / descovy, would you know if I use the insurance, will they send any kind of paperwork / bills to my home? I really hope not, and get in trouble with family.
If you're that worried about it just take prep a few days before and after you do it. Truvada, Biktarvy, Apretude, Cabotegravir shot, etc. Do some research to mitigate your risk.
Anthony2023
01-18-23, 05:41
Because mfs want the fantasy to be reality. After filling up on porn all of their lives, nobody expects to have a shit coated dick after they pull it out of a chick's ass for the first time. The movie did not show that part. Ummm. What LOL. Not sure what type of nasty chicks you been fucking in the ass, but the none of the chicks not even the first timers I've done it with never left shit on my dick LOL.
Anthony2023
01-18-23, 06:12
Stop being cheap and pay it. It costs less than home. Everybody knows all the elite top shelf chicks are on SA. Why are you trying to cheap out on them? They know their worth.LOL. Well he can't be that cheap if he paid the membership to use seeking.
You are splitting hairs. So the shit was left on the condom instead of your dick. But seriously, it's likely you would find some shit unless you go necro.
Ummm. What LOL. Not sure what type of nasty chicks you been fucking in the ass, but the none of the chicks not even the first timers I've done it with never left shit on my dick LOL.
Ummm. What LOL. Not sure what type of nasty chicks you been fucking in the ass, but the none of the chicks not even the first timers I've done it with never left shit on my dick LOL.It's like I always say. If you're going to fuck a lot of pretty girls in the ass, then you're just going to have to take a little shit every now and again! After all, it's called a poop chute for a reason LOL! That said, I've been quite fortunate over the years and have encountered hardly any "bad" situations. But there have been some. Maybe a handful or so. Most girls who butt fuck a lot tend to prepare themselves. Like the porn star Elisa Sanches in Brazil. She took an enema before I cornholed (on two different occasions) in my hotel room.
Sailor Jim
01-18-23, 18:33
It is with great resentment and sadness that I am about to post what I am going to post but I feel as though the information needs to be out there to help fellow mongers in medellin to avoid what happened to me.
So anyways I just recently got back to medellin after having been gone for 2 months working in the US. I had been messaging this lesbian marimacha chick that I met on a previous trip back in May while I was on my way here. It turns out she was also pregnant and I kinda have a fetish for pregnant women LOL.
Anyways so as soon as I arrived I grabbed the bus from the airport (which is now 14 mil by the way) and headed to terminal del norte. I had Yei (the pregnant lesbian chick) meet me there, and since I had my suitcase and backpack and all my belongings with me I told her I wanted to go to my apartment in santo domingo (I know big mistake, especially with a chick I've only seen one time prior). Anyways we make it back to my place, everything is in order just how I left it in November. She says she wanted a beer an guila light, I tell her she shouldn't be drinking since she is 8 months pregnant but I guess one light beer wouldn't hurt. I then go to the local tienda in my barrio and buy 2 Aguila lights and come back. I open them both and take a swig of mine and then hop in the shower since I was all sweaty and hadn't showered since I left California. When I get out of the shower yei is in my room mopping up something on the floor and I'm like what happened and she's like oh I accidentally spilled the beers. And I'm like ok whatever. So then I go to grab my beer and low and behold the beer is more full than it had been after my first swig before I got in the shower. Upon further inspection I also noticed that it had alot more foam than it did before my shower and it had some kind of white powder on the neck of the bottle. So I questioned her about it but she denied putting anything in my beer, I however didn't believe her and I went and dumped it out. We then proceeded to have a BBFS session which actually was really good and exactly what I wanted just as good as the first time I saw her back in May. Then afterwards she started complaining that her barriga was hurting and that she didn't feel she could walk all the way down the hillsbof my barrio down to where taxis and cars pass by and that she wanted her girlfriend to come get her so we could both help her walk. I knew something fishy was going on but against my better judgment I gave her my address to give to her girlfriend to grab a taxi, but the address isn't exact because I don't know the interior number and all cars can't pass all the way up here just motos and pedestrians because the road gets too narrow. So when the girlfriend arrived I had to go down to get her. During this time when I left yei alone in my apartment she got into my backpack and took my laptop, my tablet, and a cheap Sony cybershot camera and put them into her backpack that she had brought with her. My dumbass being too trusting didn't think to double check my backpack until after the girlfriend and I helped her down the hill and into a taxi. And when I got back I checked and of course my shit was gone. Luckily everything was all cheap shit tho. The laptop was $100 on black Friday at best buy it was a Lenovo IdeaPad I1 with barebones specs, I just use it to hook up to the TV to watch movies and shows I have downloaded on hard drives. She also got my tablet which was some cheap shit from Walmart called Onn that was like $70 maybe, and she also got my Sony w800 cybershot camera also worth about $70 oh and my cell phone charger was missing as well. The stupid * actually left behind things that were more valuable than what she took, such as my 2 western digital 10 TB hard drives and an original JBL Bluetooth speaker among other things.
Anyways I have attached pictures of the lesbian chick and her girlfriend as well as her Facebook profile and pictures of the residual powder on the beer bottle (after I had dumped it out).
The marimacha goes by Yei Sanchez and the girlfriend (the fem lesbian) goes by Joanna Gomez or Reichell Gomez. They work in the Botero area and stay in a pagodiario in prado.
I guess I always learn the hard way, I know better than to bring chicas back to my place especially one's I don't really know that well, I was thinking with my dick instead of my head and after I noticed the powder on the beer I honestly don't know why I didn't throw the * out of my apartment right away. The good news is that I didn't drink the beer, I didn't pass out or even die, and while I'm out about $250 usd worth of electronics, I can always buy those things back again and it honestly wouldn't put much of a dent in my wallet at the moment.
Please be careful out there guys. This is the first time anything like this has ever happened to me in all the 5 years I've been coming to Colombia, but it seems to me that people are robbing and stealing more than they used to. A friend of mine recently had his IPhone stolen in Centro and even a vennie I know had her phone stolen as well. This for me is just a lesson to learn about not being so trusting of people which really I already knew but I guess I was just getting to confident or too comfortable, but it could have turned out much worse.Appreciate you sharing, glad you didn't get drugged. That scope is some serious shit. If you have a weak or older heart and get the wrong dose you could end up in the hospital or worse.
A friend of mine was robbed this past weekend in his AIRBNB, two perpetrators were somehow able to get into the building and were waiting outside the door of his apartment when he opened it up to leave. Not sure how long they were waiting in the hallway or why no neighbors saw anything, I mean it's their building too. One guy had a revolver, held at his side, not pointed, and stood back while the main thief who did all the talking had a knife. They got everything of value except his passport, THC gummies and a money belt, which my buddy considered a win since the belt has 500 USD.
Supposedly the police didn't seem to care, had a "so what, another foreigner got robbed, I need to get home to eat supper". The security cameras have a technical difficulty so there is no tape.
My buddy didn't resist. He was not hurt, he didn't have any girls with him and no one knew he was there and what was the address, except for me and obviously the airbnb owner.
I feel bad but I work from home in Medellin and can't really have guests stay over during this critical time at work, it would be too distracting, so I recommended an airBnb near me in the Boston / Buenos Aires area. Crime and homelessness is up a little bit here but I never thought it was this bad.
I am recommending a hotel from now on to anyone coming down. It seems all the protective measures in place with airBnB are for the owner and not the guest.
A friend of mine was robbed this past weekend in his AIRBNB, two perpetrators were somehow able to get into the building and were waiting outside the door of his apartment when he opened it up to leave. Not sure how long they were waiting in the hallway or why no neighbors saw anything, I mean it's their building too. One guy had a revolver, held at his side, not pointed, and stood back while the main thief who did all the talking had a knife. They got everything of value except his passport, THC gummies and a money belt, which my buddy considered a win since the belt has 500 USD..Is this common? Was he in some bad area or unknown building, no security? I can't imagine this in the known gringo and tourist airbnb's.
How bad is the crime really, or is it just many more foreigners are coming to MDE these days, can you be robbed in Parque Lleras walking around where it's usually full of police present, or robbed in a taxi? I've always taken street taxis in the past and never had an issue, hope is still safe these days.
On The Road
01-18-23, 19:02
Stay in a hotel or apartment building that requires the chicas to register with their cedulas.Any suggestion?
Hello everyone, I'm planning to fuck a few girls raw. I need a clinic where I can get myself and the girls tested. Any suggestion for a clinic in Medellin for a good price and fast turnaround? Thanks in advance.
I'm surprised that out of visiting all those places you haven't yet tried Bogota? There's some info in the other areas section of this forum on Cucuta but it gives the impression opposite to what we would think. I imagine Cucuta as being this place with tons of young, cute vennies that set up shop here when the reality seems to be that while there are some, the scene is fairly small and the majority are probably headed toward Bogota anyways as their first main stop. Anyways this is the Medellin forum so won't clog it up but check out my post from about a month ago in Bog. Good luck.
So. I've always based myself in Medellin / Laureles. I just love it there, but I get feeling guilty for not checking out other spots. I've been to Pereira, Cartagena, Barranquilla, and Santa Marta. I'm on my way back in a couple weeks. Anywhere else I should be checking out? I keep hearing about Cucut, Cali has always been interesting, and prices look REALLY good in Bucaramanga. Or should I just stay in Laureles again?
I arrive at 0700 into MDE (Jan 30th) and booked my first night at the Mansion. They don't allow early check-in (Check-in is at 3 pm) although maybe I can give the front desk a nice tip and see if they can help me out. I don't want to waste any time getting to fun. They said my belongings would be safe at the front desk but I'm a little hesitant to leave passport, cards, cash etc and sure as hell not going to go out with it all on me.
Any ideas how I can safely store my stuff and go on the prowl. I guess worst case I could find a cheap hotel for a few hours.
Where is the best place to get a local sim card and exchange cash?
Mr Enternational
01-19-23, 01:14
I arrive at 0700 into MDE (Jan 30th) and booked my first night at the Mansion. They don't allow early check-in (Check-in is at 3 pm) although maybe I can give the front desk a nice tip and see if they can help me out. Should have paid for the day before you arrive. Who is to say there will even be a room available at that time.
Any suggestion?http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2654-Medellin-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments
Anthony2023
01-19-23, 03:48
Where is the best place to get a local sim card and exchange cash?Sim card? People still use those? Hahaha jk. I need a sim card for my burner phone too. The real question is do those sim cards they sell work with locked phones tied to only one network?
Anthony2023
01-19-23, 03:56
It's like I always say. If you're going to fuck a lot of pretty girls in the ass, then you're just going to have to take a little shit every now and again! Damn LOL well hopefully I don't get jinxed.
CenTexCrash
01-19-23, 05:50
Incoherently written first timer recap by a hobbyist seasoned around the globe.
I try to RTFF but also Colombia threads bloated with users off topic flame war each other really threw a wrench in my conquest.
A week before my flight I did the ISG strat to send friend requests on FB and out of 80 requests, 2 confirmed me day before flight. That's when I knew this might get a little bumpy.
Ultimately my past hobby xp of parachute into a locale, check into hotel, and meet girl an hour later kind of ruined me. That approach simply doesn't exist in Medellin.
Medellin is not a quick strike setting. It requires time, commitment, other re $ources to a point to indulge you have to plan on Medellin being your only hobby destination and have no time to hobby outside of Colombia.
The ISGers speaking highly of Medellin didn't bud overnight. Their black book took months or years or expat abroad status to have connections they're enjoying. If you're one of those congrats. Keep doing what you're doing and I salute and envy you.
However if you're a casual once every 3-5 years type visitor, Medellin might not bear the results you were hoping to indulge. There are options, but they're geared more towards locals who are too drunk to care if the girl doesn't match girl in pics. And overpriced escorts too.
Know Spanish. Have some game. And most importantly plan on visiting 3-4 times / year. Even your first visit will require additional planning of some way some how getting contacts weeks before your arrival to make sure your starting point goes smoothly, which starts to sound like a Catch 22. If this is for you, then by all means.
I don't know how else to explain it.
RahulMangla2009
01-19-23, 06:19
Interested in knowing this as well.
Hello everyone, I'm planning to fuck a few girls raw. I need a clinic where I can get myself and the girls tested. Any suggestion for a clinic in Medellin for a good price and fast turnaround? Thanks in advance.
Anyone here who would like to hit Medellin El Centro together during daytime for safety?
I'm in my 30's /40's, would be nice to meet someone so we can watch our backs more.
How can we keep in touch, I have no idea how the btcs payments work.
Mr Enternational
01-19-23, 12:33
Incoherently written first timer recap by a hobbyist seasoned around the globe.
I try to RTFF but also Colombia threads bloated with users off topic flame war each other really threw a wrench in my conquest.
Ultimately my past hobby xp of parachute into a locale, check into hotel, and meet girl an hour later kind of ruined me. That approach simply doesn't exist in Medellin.
Medellin is not a quick strike setting..Definitely incoherent. How can different discussions in a forum cause a person not to get laid? With all the cheap casas and strip clubs around, the only excuse is staring you in the mirror. According to your reports, you are causing yourself not to get laid. Next time try leaving the hotel before declaring it is impossible to get laid without being there 3 years. Well I can't even say that. Because in Rio you did leave the hotel and had other board members guiding you around, yet still made all the excuses why you could not get laid; one being that $40 for a chick that ticked all your boxes was too expensive.
Nil Admirari
01-19-23, 13:18
Hello everyone, I'm planning to fuck a few girls raw. I need a clinic where I can get myself and the girls tested. Any suggestion for a clinic in Medellin for a good price and fast turnaround? Thanks in advance.
Lab Proanalab provides "Servicio domicilio". They come to your apartment and send the results by email or WhatsApp the same day. I paid 60 mil each for HIV (VIH) and syphilis (sfilis) tests. Best to send a WhatsApp to arrange the visit. There are walk-in clinics where you might pay somewhat less and perhaps get HIV results while you wait. Results for other STDs probably take longer.
Med Lab Proanalab Servicio domicilio.
+57 316 6551205.
[EMAIL]validacionesproanalabsas@gmail.com
For other clinics that provide STD testing on a walk-in or domicilio basis, Google "Pruebas de ETS en Medellin" ETS is the abbreviation for "enfermedad de transmisiand sexual".
It's like I always say. If you're going to fuck a lot of pretty girls in the ass, then you're just going to have to take a little shit every now and again! After all, it's called a poop chute for a reason LOL! That said, I've been quite fortunate over the years and have encountered hardly any "bad" situations. But there have been some. Maybe a handful or so. Most girls who butt fuck a lot tend to prepare themselves. Like the porn star Elisa Sanches in Brazil. She took an enema before I cornholed (on two different occasions) in my hotel room.I agree. In porn, all the girls who do anal prep beforehand and do enemas. That is why the cocks come out clean. If you see a girl and don't request an enema beforehand, like most guys, and then want anal, the girl is not going to do any prep work. Everyone goes to take a shit and wipes on the outside but in most cases there will be residue inside the anal cavity. If you going to enter the ass, you may get some of that residue on your cock. The more girls you take, the more likely it is going to happen. That has been my experience with brown stains on my condom from time to time. Sometimes you get lucky, and sometimes you don't. But it has nothing to do with the girl being nasty or dirty. It has everything to do with prep work beforehand for the girl.
Incoherently written first timer recap by a hobbyist seasoned around the globe.
I try to RTFF but also Colombia threads bloated with users off topic flame war each other really threw a wrench in my conquest.
A week before my flight I did the ISG strat to send friend requests on FB and out of 80 requests, 2 confirmed me day before flight. That's when I knew this might get a little bumpy.
Ultimately my past hobby xp of parachute into a locale, check into hotel, and meet girl an hour later kind of ruined me. That approach simply doesn't exist in Medellin.
Medellin is not a quick strike setting. It requires time, commitment, other re $ources to a point to indulge you have to plan on Medellin being your only hobby destination and have no time to hobby outside of Colombia.
The ISGers speaking highly of Medellin didn't bud overnight. Their black book took months or years or expat abroad status to have connections they're enjoying. If you're one of those congrats. Keep doing what you're doing and I salute and envy you...There are quick and easy brothels in El Centro that have been discussed here such as New Energy. You don't have to know anything, just the address of these casas like New Energy. You go in, you pick your girl and you screw and you pay a reasonable amount. There are also higher end strip clubs that have been mentioned where you can have sex in house. So for newbies there are some places to go for easy sex without much work.
As for Facebook, yes, you do need to do some advance work to make friend requests and for the girls to get around to accepting it and then for some chatting. It doesn't take months or years but it would take a few weeks before the trip. But it is true that those who have been doing it for a while have a blackbook of FB girls that makes it much easier because the girls know them and will meet with them quickly when they are in town for a price that has already been agreed upon.
It is better to know some Spanish but you don't have to be fluent. I just speak a little Spanish, just enough to get by. I probably spend 5 minutes every two days to learn a little Spanish and that is all the effort I make. You don't need game to meet with girls who are pay for play. You just need money.
But as you noted, Medellin is not as easy as Pattaya, Thailand, or some other mongering cities.
Definitely incoherent. How can different discussions in a forum cause a person not to get laid? With all the cheap casas and strip clubs around, the only excuse is staring you in the mirror. According to your reports, you are causing yourself not to get laid. Next time try leaving the hotel before declaring it is impossible to get laid without being there 3 years. Well I can't even say that. Because in Rio you did leave the hotel and had other board members guiding you around, yet still made all the excuses why you could not get laid; one being that $40 for a chick that ticked all your boxes was too expensive.Bro you got to know you're really fucking up when even Mr. E is ready to call you cheap LOL! Sounds like you needed to stay home until you could get your money all the way right. Because I don't care what anybody says. When you add it all up (travel, lodging, meals, poontang, miscellaneous) overseas mongering is relatively expensive. And if you can't fork over $40 for a chica who otherwise ticks all your boxes because that costs too much, then you're in the wrong hobby bro. Just saying.
FlowState985
01-19-23, 17:18
I arrive at 0700 into MDE (Jan 30th) and booked my first night at the Mansion. They don't allow early check-in (Check-in is at 3 pm) although maybe I can give the front desk a nice tip and see if they can help me out. I don't want to waste any time getting to fun. They said my belongings would be safe at the front desk but I'm a little hesitant to leave passport, cards, cash etc and sure as hell not going to go out with it all on me.
Any ideas how I can safely store my stuff and go on the prowl. I guess worst case I could find a cheap hotel for a few hours.
Where is the best place to get a local sim card and exchange cash?Getting sim is real easy, although not sure how far you would have to walk or cab from the Mansion. Basically, any store you see that has sign of Tigo, Claro will have a sim (usually 5000 peso) + recagar (recharge) for 20-40 mil depends on how many days you want.
As far as exchange cash, I use ATM for best conversion and convenient. Your bank might charge you ATM fee 5-10 usd or whatever, MAKE SURE you decline conversion rate (high mark up from ATM).
I don't see there is a big issue leaving your luggage at the Mansion and venture out. If you are concern about that then you can buy a small TSA lock to lock your luggage, it's cheap on amazon.
Getting sim is real easy, although not sure how far you would have to walk or cab from the Mansion. Basically, any store you see that has sign of Tigo, Claro will have a sim (usually 5000 peso) + recagar (recharge) for 20-40 mil depends on how many days you want.
As far as exchange cash, I use ATM for best conversion and convenient. Your bank might charge you ATM fee 5-10 usd or whatever, MAKE SURE you decline conversion rate (high mark up from ATM).
I don't see there is a big issue leaving your luggage at the Mansion and venture out. If you are concern about that then you can buy a small TSA lock to lock your luggage, it's cheap on amazon.He can get a sim card a block away from the Mansion. I agree there should be no problem with dropping luggage at the desk. There are several currency exchange places at Oviedo mall, 5 minutes walk away.
However, he might want to recargar his phone. Recagar would mean "to shit again. ".
Thanks for the report. Did you have any issues with bringing in the girls? Planning a trip for next month and looking at either Hotel Park 10 or Intercontinental.
First time poster, long time reader. As I am concluding five months in Medellin I thought I would share what I have been up to.
About me: mid thirties, work remotely, experienced monger, conversational Spanish skills. Not my first time in Colombia. Previously short trips to Bogota and Cartagena.
I stayed in Poblado close to Provenza and Parque Lleras. I highly recommend Lettera Hotel. I do not recommend Dann Carlton, 23 Hotel. Charlee Hotel or Park 10.
I also stayed at the Intercontinental in Las Palmas which I liked but it's not walking distance to Provenza / Lleras. Great restaurant and grill there. Big pool. Gym. Very nice.
Primary hunting ground was Seeking. Lots of girls available. Negotiated up front and then sent them an Uber and had them dropped off directly at my hotel. Very easy. Very efficient.
I spent a lot of time at Parque Lleras when I first arrived. Highly amusing but gets old after a few weeks. Tons and tons of girls on the weekends. It's certainly a sight to see. I recommend the hookah bar with green lights with a perfect view of the busiest corner in the park. Invite a girl up for a drink and send her back if she's not for you. A hundred more are waiting.
Casas: Checked out Newlife but didn't like any of the girls. Paid the viewing fee and left. Went to Spa Energias. Didn't like the line up but picked a young Venezuelan. Never returned to either casa.
Went to Loutron's one night. Small line up. Mostly girls who had been operated on. Not my style but picked a girl. Terrible service. Upsold me but failed to deliver the goods. Had the audacity to ask me for a tip at the end. Do not recommend this establishment.
Checked out La Isla but left within 15 minutes of arrived. The girls started harassing me for tips before I had even gotten a drink and watched a dance.
The girls at the Do Men's Spa below Diez Hotel in Poblado are available for whatever you can negotiate. The massages however are mediocre.
Overall, I had a great time here. I definitely recommend visiting Medellin. Having said that, I prefer la playa why el sol. Headed to the DR next.
So just doing the research online here are some answers. First if you have a newer phone it has esim capabilities, I've used it in Mexico. What's nice about it is, there is no changing or a card, you can have it ready to work as soon as you land, it will connect to the local network and there are different packages you can choose from, Also no need to register it with your passport locally. I think the drawback is you can't actually makes calls its only data driven but you can still use WhatsApp, facebook, instagram. Thats what I will be doing when I arrive when I'm out and about. When at my airbnb wifi is king.
I know its been talked about but the best exchange rate is an ATM, If you don't have a card though that picks up the ATM fees then it may add up in the long run. I know my bank can order currency but their exchange rate sucked. You maybe be able to find a currency exchange place (San Francisco is suppose to have one) but you might get charged a fee to do it. ATM the best way to go though.
I arrive at 0700 into MDE (Jan 30th) and booked my first night at the Mansion. They don't allow early check-in (Check-in is at 3 pm) although maybe I can give the front desk a nice tip and see if they can help me out. I don't want to waste any time getting to fun. They said my belongings would be safe at the front desk but I'm a little hesitant to leave passport, cards, cash etc and sure as hell not going to go out with it all on me.
Any ideas how I can safely store my stuff and go on the prowl. I guess worst case I could find a cheap hotel for a few hours.
Where is the best place to get a local sim card and exchange cash?
Iguana Six
01-20-23, 03:58
I had a flight to and from MDE, but it was cancelled. I went to their website and they have no flights out of MDE after the first week.
Anyone know what is going on?
I texted them to get my refund, and they told me it had something to do with COVID cases in Medellin.
BlueChange
01-20-23, 04:00
Emerelda.
180 + 100 propina for oral naturale (yeah I know).
I'the been pounding some of my regulars and decided I wanted to see a line up.
Nothing really caught my eye except for this super cute button-nose light cinnamon paísa. She was petite with extra perky be cups that were pierced. We get to the room.
And she was just all business. Her body.
Was tight a cute little ass you could use as a. Nightstand. She gave me a massage on my back that lasted 3 min, did the flip.
Then rubbed my Johnson. She reaches for the rubber but I ask for oral naturale. Hits me with 100 mil! I swear this is the standard energy markup. Ok I paid it, I will say her mouth was smooth except this BJ lasted like 45 seconds. On the rubber went, she was tight but man it was just nothing there, no passion. Tried to do missionary and same with doggy with That gourgeous ass but damn wasn't really into it. Took the rubber off and had her finish me off. The hand job wasn't even good and I had to do it myself to get close and then let her drive for the finish. If you see her. Just pass.
Emmy 500 k SA.
Been on a streak with girls in seeking I pretty much only go there now. Something about light eyes paísa that makes me go extra hard.
We talked back and forth. She lives in the south so it's like an extra hour for her to get To my place. We had been chatting for a while. I asked that she not dress like a prepago and dress conservative, she more then passed that test. She wore a black sweater with a white collar underneath (I would later find out the white collar shirt was actually a fake shirt that is really a bra made to look like a colllared shirt (in guessing something a webcammer might wear etc) and a short jean skirt. We had some drinks, talked and made out. Finally we were getting down to biz. She agreed to BB and I showed her my test. It was on. She is 5 2 and weighrs like 103 lbs. But let me tell you when she took off that shirt and collar I couldn't belive she was hiding perfect full see natural tits! Light pink brown nips that matched her super light skin. She started with a massage but without lotion is wasn't enjoyable. Then she flipped me and gave me an amazing BJ that lasted like 15 minutes. She sucked and I wanted to give her a facial. She was horny and she saw my test from before so we hopped right on. Her Pussy is like silk and I can see a little pussy juice on my cock from the first insertion. I didn't last lost and pulled out and shot an 8 ropper all over her perky natural tits. She stayed like almost the whole night but I needed her gone because I had a flight to catch in the AM. SA is the best place for BB to be honest.
There are quick and easy brothels in El Centro that have been discussed here such as New Energy. You don't have to know anything, just the address of these casas like New Energy. Why.
Where the heck is New Energy? Never heard of it.
Dispute the credit card charge and use the money to buy a ticket on Jet Blue.
I had a flight to and from MDE, but it was cancelled. I went to their website and they have no flights out of MDE after the first week.
Anyone know what is going on?
I texted them to get my refund, and they told me it had something to do with COVID cases in Medellin.
There are quick and easy brothels in El Centro that have been discussed here such as New Energy. You don't have to know anything, just the address of these casas like New Energy. Why.
Where the heck is New Energy? Never heard of it.I think you are mixing New Life with Energy (which also has another name which I can't recall at the moment). New Life is in Centro, whereas Energy is in Estadio area. But the point is valid, with proper address one can find these. Taxi drivers can anyway. Most of the time. On foot it is a challenge until you learn the address system, which has been covered on this forum in the past. And if you are looking for business sign or something to tell you that you are at the right place. Don't bother. Almost without exception these places have nothing to indicate you are at the right place, other than a buzzer, or door you can open and a buzzer inside to go through the next door.
MikeKelimir
01-20-23, 15:02
Does anyone know of a place in Medellin similar to Nanxing (Bogota)?
CenTexCrash
01-20-23, 15:08
I had a flight to and from MDE, but it was cancelled. I went to their website and they have no flights out of MDE after the first week.
Anyone know what is going on?
I texted them to get my refund, and they told me it had something to do with COVID cases in Medellin.Not sure if it's airport itself? Or that city's government made ban of airline? As of last month when I hunted for airfare, Mexico's Viva Aerobus had same disclaimer for MEX-MDE "This route is suspended until further notice" but their MEX-BOG was still available. May have to infiltrate via Bogota then take a bus / plane to get to Medellin.
SankarShetty
01-20-23, 16:32
Incoherently written first timer recap by a hobbyist seasoned around the globe.
I try to RTFF but also Colombia threads bloated with users off topic flame war each other really threw a wrench in my conquest.
A week before my flight I did the ISG strat to send friend requests on FB and out of 80 requests, 2 confirmed me day before flight. That's when I knew this might get a little bumpy.
Ultimately my past hobby xp of parachute into a locale, check into hotel, and meet girl an hour later kind of ruined me. That approach simply doesn't exist in Medellin.
Medellin is not a quick strike setting. It requires time, commitment, other re $ources to a point to indulge you have to plan on Medellin being your only hobby destination and have no time to hobby outside of Colombia.
The ISGers speaking highly of Medellin didn't bud overnight. Their black book took months or years or expat abroad status to have connections they're enjoying. If you're one of those congrats. Keep doing what you're doing and I salute and envy you.
However if you're a casual once every 3-5 years type visitor, Medellin might not bear the results you were hoping to indulge. There are options, but they're geared more towards locals who are too drunk to care if the girl doesn't match girl in pics. And overpriced escorts too..There is some truth to this but its not all doom for virgin trippers. I think you will still wet your wicker considering so many online options for delivery (FB, tinder, CC, PP etc) but the quality of experiences are usually better for those that have built their black book over the years.
I arrive at 0700 into MDE (Jan 30th) and booked my first night at the Mansion. They don't allow early check-in (Check-in is at 3 pm) although maybe I can give the front desk a nice tip and see if they can help me out. I don't want to waste any time getting to fun. T...Cash: If you have to exchange cash. You can exchange some at the airport. Like others have said, ATM will be better.
SIM card:
There used to be a place similar to a bookstore or something on the second floor that you can get SIM card in the airport . You have to ask because it may not be on display. You can kill sometime while trying to find it but I don't know if it is still there.
Once you are in the city, if it is still early and you want to kill some time. Go to Botero Plaza to sightseeing. There is a WOM store by the white church Veracruz. They usually have staff that can speak English. You can pay 20 mil for 30 days or whatever days you need for less cost, but you need to have your passport with you. This will register your phone in their system so it won't be locked after 30 days. The official stores like this are more like full service and stores of this provider usually are less busy. The other providers often have longer lines I think because they offer more services
There is a cafe that is part of the museum. You can order something and sit on the patio to people watch if you have time to kill.
There are many neighborhood stores that sell SIM. These are like the airport one, and they may be able to help you setup SIM card and put data in your SIM.
Then there are street vendors. Yo can only buy SIM which is normally 5 mil but you can get it for 3 mil in some places. You need to go to GANA to show your phone number and name of the provider to put data on the phone. I think the least expensive plan is 5 mil. GANA is everywhere so you won't miss it.
Pictures:
The for sale sign next to the 000 is the WOM store location. You can see the white Veracruz church to the left.
You can kill more time to have lunch at the restaurant across from the white church. You can see all the actions from the patio, bring your binoculars. This picture is old. It now has a glass walkway.
SankarShetty
01-20-23, 16:45
Inflation has certainly caused Airbnb and hotel pricing to go up. The thing that gets to me is that its not 5 to 10%, a good number of Airbnb apartments are now priced 20 to 30% higher. This is especially true if its a new project or building. Most of the really good one bedroom or studios are no less than 80 a night, similar ones were 50 a night last year. I think someone mentioned Jan 1 being the time when govt allowed businesses to reprice their offerings. A number of apartments in primero park Laureles, Belen, Manila, Poblado and conquistadores neighborhoods are up at least 15%.
Perhaps we should all move to Bello. Jejejee.
How is Buenos Aires area? Esp. With the tram system that opened in 2021 I think its a very accessible part of the city close enough to Centro.
Hope this is temporary. And certainly, usd is not the sweet 5.2 cop it was 3 months ago.
Sim card? People still use those? Hahaha jk. I need a sim card for my burner phone too. The real question is do those sim cards they sell work with locked phones tied to only one network?No, they will not work in a locked phone.
What range have others been paying / offering to better quality SA girls recently? (I know YMMV).
Is US $80-120 reasonable or overpaying?
MikeKelimir
01-20-23, 18:20
This is overpaying.
Hourly speaking, this is a VERY rough rule of thumb where you can assume a 90% "price acceptance" rate without hassle. Of course you can negotiate to get lower prices. Assuming exchange at 4,000 (it's better, but round numbers make it easier to mentally process.
1. street average - 160,000 COP / $40 USD.
2. apartment average (in call) - 200,000 COP / $50 USD.
3. apartment average (out call) - 280,000 COP / $70 USD.
4. casa average - 100,000 COP /$25 USD in the centro type places, $50 energy, $80 loutron.
5. club average - 300,000 COP / $75 USD (fase2/ isla) - about 1/2 that in the non-fase2 and non-isla places.
6. spa average - 160,000 COP / $40 USD.
7. mansion prices - 200,000 COP-300,00 COP $50-$75.
8. lleras street prices - 200,000 COP / $50 USD.
8. lleras (in a club) prices - 350,000 COP ($90) and up (prices are lower with girls on the street, and higher when they are in the club -- make sure you clarify whether you are talking in dollars or pesos. Girls will say "300" then try to do some dumb shit like say she meant 300 USD).
Again, those are rough, and the exchange rate is better now, so you may see a 20%-ish reduction in the $USD prices if your ATM lets you pull money at the 4,400 range or higher.
What range have others been paying / offering to better quality SA girls recently? (I know YMMV).
Is US $80-120 reasonable or overpaying?
Cash: If you have to exchange cash. You can exchange some at the airport. Like others have said, ATM will be better.
SIM card:
There used to be a place similar to a bookstore or something on the second floor that you can get SIM card in the airport . You have to ask because it may not be on display. You can kill sometime while trying to find it but I don't know if it is still there.
Once you are in the city, if it is still early and you want to kill some time. Go to Botero Plaza to sightseeing. There is a WOM store by the white church Veracruz. They usually have staff that can speak English. You can pay 20 mil for 30 days or whatever days you need for less cost, but you need to have your passport with you. This will register your phone in their system so it won't be locked after 30 days. The official stores like this are more like full service and stores of this provider usually are less busy. The other providers often have longer lines I think because they offer more services
There is a cafe that is part of the museum. You can order something and sit on the patio to people watch if you have time to kill.
There are many neighborhood stores that sell SIM. These are like the airport one, and they may be able to help you setup SIM card and put data in your SIM.
Then there are street vendors. Yo can only buy SIM which is normally 5 mil but you can get it for 3 mil in some places. You need to go to GANA to show your phone number and name of the provider to put data on the phone. I think the least expensive plan is 5 mil. GANA is everywhere so you won't miss it.
Pictures:
The for sale sign next to the 000 is the WOM store location. You can see the white Veracruz church to the left.
You can kill more time to have lunch at the restaurant across from the white church. You can see all the actions from the patio, bring your binoculars. This picture is old. It now has a glass walkway.No matter where you get your SIM make sure you go to the service provider (Claro, etc.) and have it registered properly (if you bought it from a company store they would do that when they first install it) Otherwise that phone will be locked out after 30 days, and the lock is on the IME of the phone, so you will never be able to use it in Colombia again. Happened to me. You may be able to get that lock removed on a subsequent trip, but you can only do that by going back to the original provider, with the phone number, passport, etc. Took me a couple of days.
Elvis 2008
01-20-23, 19:15
What range have others been paying / offering to better quality SA girls recently? (I know YMMV).
Is US $80-120 reasonable or overpaying?It is fine Sean but just at least try to meet without having to mention money. Most I ever paid was $140 for someone who let me go bare. Bring up money if you have to but try not to bring it up.
And meet them in a nice place and dress nicely to project the image of "This is the life you will get if you roll with me. ".
There are a lot of flakes so always have a backup plan. Outside of going bare, which was frequent with me, you will find all in all the WGs are better in bed. So if you are just looking at getting laid, seeking really is not that great.
And even in Colombia, you have to go through a lot of losers before you find a winner. Guys myself included talk way to much about the winners and not enough about the losers.
..Otherwise that phone will be locked out after 30 days,....I switched and registered with a 2nd provider. The first provider locked my phone in less than 2 weeks, not the 30 days we know. I have to buy another highest cost plan from the 1st provider to get it unlocked. I know this is an exception but it happened to me.
AmorPorFavor
01-20-23, 22:18
What range have others been paying / offering to better quality SA girls recently? (I know YMMV).
Is US $80-120 reasonable or overpaying?The hottest ones insist on $120-$200. Pay it or you will not be seeing them. If you do pay it they will usually not be clock watchers and you will have long dates with dinner out and possible overnights with BBFS if they like you. The most I paid was $160 (800m pesos) but that was for around 18 hours of unlimited BBFS.
Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.
I switched and registered with a 2nd provider. The first provider locked my phone in less than 2 weeks, not the 30 days we know. I have to buy another highest cost plan from the 1st provider to get it unlocked. I know this is an exception but it happened to me.I know I got a text message warning me that the phone would be locked, or something like that, if I did not register it properly. I ignored it as I was leaving the country soon, and only when I went back a couple of years later I found that phone was locked for Colombia, but not anywhere else. Not sure how they do that. But I eventually was able to go back to the original SIM carrier and I also had to open the cheapest plan available, and then they unlocked it and properly registered it. I was then able to activate a SIM from another company as I had already purchased that before I found my phone to be locked. So I ended up with 2 active plans.
I purchase a iPhone 11 (cheap) a while back. So I always travel with two phones when visiting foreign countries. I keep the main one at hotel / airbnb (newest iPhone) and just walk around with the 11 (wouldn't care that much if someone steals it) I use google fi esim function and terminate service when I arrive back in the states. Esim saves the hassle in going to a cell store in a foreign country. But yes, make sure your phone is unlock. Also, not sure on android but iPhone can have 2 lines active for the ones that travels with just one phone.
This is overpaying.
Hourly speaking, this is a VERY rough rule of thumb where you can assume a 90% "price acceptance" rate without hassle. Of course you can negotiate to get lower prices. Assuming exchange at 4,000 (it's better, but round numbers make it easier to mentally process.
1. street average - 160,000 COP / $40 USD.
2. apartment average (in call) - 200,000 COP / $50 USD.
3. apartment average (out call) - 280,000 COP / $70 USD.
4. casa average - 100,000 COP /$25 USD in the centro type places, $50 energy, $80 loutron.
5. club average - 300,000 COP / $75 USD (fase2/ isla) - about 1/2 that in the non-fase2 and non-isla places.
6. spa average - 160,000 COP / $40 USD.
7. mansion prices - 200,000 COP-300,00 COP $50-$75.
8. lleras street prices - 200,000 COP / $50 USD.
8. lleras (in a club) prices - 350,000 COP ($90) and up (prices are lower with girls on the street, and higher when they are in the club -- make sure you clarify whether you are talking in dollars or pesos. Girls will say "300" then try to do some dumb shit like say she meant 300 USD).
Again, those are rough, and the exchange rate is better now, so you may see a 20%-ish reduction in the $USD prices if your ATM lets you pull money at the 4,400 range or higher.Nice summary of costs in Medellin.
This is overpaying.
Hourly speaking, this is a VERY rough rule of thumb where you can assume a 90% "price acceptance" rate without hassle. Of course you can negotiate to get lower prices. Assuming exchange at 4,000 (it's better, but round numbers make it easier to mentally process.
1. street average - 160,000 COP / $40 USD.
2. apartment average (in call) - 200,000 COP / $50 USD.
3. apartment average (out call) - 280,000 COP / $70 USD.
4. casa average - 100,000 COP /$25 USD in the centro type places, $50 energy, $80 loutron.
5. club average - 300,000 COP / $75 USD (fase2/ isla) - about 1/2 that in the non-fase2 and non-isla places.
6. spa average - 160,000 COP / $40 USD.
7. mansion prices - 200,000 COP-300,00 COP $50-$75.
8. lleras street prices - 200,000 COP / $50 USD.
8. lleras (in a club) prices - 350,000 COP ($90) and up (prices are lower with girls on the street, and higher when they are in the club -- make sure you clarify whether you are talking in dollars or pesos. Girls will say "300" then try to do some dumb shit like say she meant 300 USD).
Again, those are rough, and the exchange rate is better now, so you may see a 20%-ish reduction in the $USD prices if your ATM lets you pull money at the 4,400 range or higher.Street price is $40 mil COP (sometimes $30 mil).
Apartment out call is $150 mil COP (of course this will vary depending on where you source the girl from).
Casas I don't have much experience but I've read there are plenty of Casas in the $50 mil - $70 mil range.
Spa / Mansion / Lleras I'll leave that up to you poblado boys to answer that one since you guys know what you pay.
And exchange rate is currently 4600 (not 4000, I think accuracy should be more important that making your mental math easier for you.
I'm guess I'm back now.
-Gabacho out.
Errol Flynn
01-21-23, 06:20
The hottest ones insist on $120-$200. Pay it or you will not be seeing them. If you do pay it they will usually not be clock watchers and you will have long dates with dinner out and possible overnights with BBFS if they like you. The most I paid was $160 (800m pesos) but that was for around 18 hours of unlimited BBFS.Are you paying in dollars? That seems crazy. But maybe I misunderstand.
I know I got a text message warning me that the phone would be locked, or something like that, ... So I ended up with 2 active plans.You get text message when you are about to reach 30 days. I got that SIM less than 2 weeks and was locked. I ended up like you with 2 active plan and they force me to buy 30 days plan to unlock my cell. I also know guys that just switch SIMs without registration without problems. I am avoiding to provide detail like this just to avoid arguments with other members.
Some comments on latest posts about prices and crime. Walking around Parque Lleras last night there seemed to be X100 more tourists than pre-COVID. Top pretty street girls asking $100 and get multiple offers, so they choose who they will go with. Average price can be $50 for lower end.
I can't possibly imagine now one could get robbed in good areas such as Parque Lleras when there are so many people are out. And so much police present.
As far as prices, good building such as Energy are $130 a night and sold out. We have huge inflation all over the world, not just in Colombia. So no it's not much cheaper than Spain anymore, I can see how top shelf girls in Medellin can get $200+. Medellin may have reached a point where is is too popular and has lost its bargain value, this happens in all internet famous destination. Venezuela might be next big thing.
What is the new place New Electro, is it like Gusto or more like Face2?
Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.Just go man! Trust me! I thought just like you and now I'm happy I went. I'm actually going go back before the summer and I regret not staying longer this pass trip. Just keep your eye on your drinks, or better off. Don't drink around a chica, especially in your airbnb. Build you up a Facebook or a seeking list. I didn't bother with tinder. Yes the scope exist, but is all about how you handle your self around other people. I seen gringos walking out of clubs with two bangers, and I'm like I hope they get both of them in bed and not them fcking him up while he drug up.
I been to Spain (for work but did splurge around) and the rates are better in Medellin. Looks are the same I'll say, but Spain chicas are older then the ones you'll find in Medellin. I also think Colombian woman are more attractive here IMO. They do travel to Spain and other Europe country. Even the USA. But like I said, I think these are the older ones.
I was dropping 150-300 cop range at my airbnb. Mostly 200 cop. In the Casas your under 200 cop unless your going to loutron. Street walkers your drop at most 70 cop which includes the room in centro. Llaures they were mostly quoting 300 but I never brought them back here or never bother since I had so many chicas already in my line up. And they still texting me the one I bang. LOL.
Are you paying in dollars? That seems crazy. But maybe I misunderstand.He's talking about SA (Seeking Arrangements) where gringos go to overpay. It's probably the same women you can find on mileroticos or photoprepagos just showing up in a fancier dress and charging 4 x more money.
Raven Boy 89
01-21-23, 17:15
I don't know if my opinion will help but I just wanted to share.
I am kind of in the same mindset but here in Greater Seattle area the "talent" is absolute shit, grannies in the AMP's, super entitled hoes on the blade that charge an arm and leg and give shit performance, odor, pimp shenanigans, the list goes on here in pussy prison. I was so sick of the talent here (or lack there) that I went to Cartagena in Sept 2022 for a week and man it was soooo good and haven't partaken in any services at home since I came back to save up. I went alone, and was safe but at times didn't feel safe like in some of the dark streets leading to my hotel. Granted I took precautions I Ubered everywhere (no problems and cheap), I took the girls to my room and kept my eye on them, didn't drink at all with them, and just banged them. I came across only one bad experience as far as smell and service but all the other chicas I was with were great I even had fun with hot 20 year old that I still think about it hahaha. I am honestly addicted to the atmosphere there, girls in bikinis where I could approach them near Stall 4 on the beach (I think? Walk around the street with latinas in tight dresses. I was able to meet some fine ass women.
That being said I hear you. I really want to go to Medellin because of what I am reading here and seeing on youtube, la isla, casa, etc. But I share your concerns about the getting scoped.
I am currently researching going to Rio or Medellin, I feel like you can find some hot younger girls in Medellin in the parques and el centro but hey I may be wrong. At this point its between Rio, and Medellin. I may pull the trigger for March. The only reason why I haven't pulled the trigger yet is the safety.
I did have to walk away from quite a few girls in Cartagena because of their pricing. I did feel that they have gotten accustomed to getting paid more than they are worth because some dudes just pay anything or have poor negotiating skills and then there is the damn simps out there.
Curious what part of Spain or you speaking of where there are hotter girls, is it a red light area?
Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.
Mr Enternational
01-21-23, 17:46
We have huge inflation all over the world, not just in Colombia. So no it's not much cheaper than Spain anymore, I can see how top shelf girls in Medellin can get $200+.So how much would the same girl be getting in Spain where the cost of living is higher? If it ain't 5 times more than the $200 you say they get in Medellin then something is off. Why would chicks go work in a far off foreign land where the cost of living is higher, in order to make the same money? Or are chicks no longer branching out to Europe, Panama, etc to sell pussy because they can get the same money at home?
I got a question I want to bring a girl and her friend to Ibiza love motel she is over 18 because I've known her for a long time but she hasn't got her permanent cédula she has the contraseña and her friend has a cédula. What's the process of getting into Ibiza? Are they going to ID the girls or do they just drive in the car with me through the gate? I'm not sure how this one works. Can someone please explain thank you.
I don't need any lectures on trying to get away with something illegal because it's not what I'm trying to do. I've been around a long time. This is a legitimate question.
I just got back from there and had a blast during my 2 week stay. I'm not sure where you are finding these $200 girls, must be Gusto's and I would suggest getting them somewhere else. I did not pay more than $65 for anywhere between a couple of hours to overnight. Getting Scoped is from being stupid and putting yourself in that situation. I have spent quite a bit of time down there and love the Colombian women, most are awesome to spend time with and are not Divas in any means.
Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.
Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.Then go to Spain. See how easy that was. In less than the time it took you to write your post, you could have booked a flight and found a place to stay.
This works for any place in the world. If you don't want to go there and would rather go somewhere else, just go where you want to go. There's no reason to come here and list all the reasons why you would rather go somewhere else. If you decide to buy tools at Home Depot do you first stop by Lowes to yell "I don't want to shop here?
Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.
Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.Dig, I'the stay home bro. Especially if you have some self respect which a lot of guys are clearly lacking here. Especially if you are just going for the pussy and not the culture. It's obvious a few here on this forum have gone native down there in Medellin. A hundred tourists could get robbed, drugged and killed and Medellin still isn't that bad. My "wife" is from a third world country and when I go to visit her family we have to watch out how we move, what neighbourhoods we visit, and at what time of the day, can't leave the house after a certain time, etc. The whole day revolves around security and it's fucking exhausting. After a week of that shit I can't wait to come home to Toronto. Why anyone of us would choose to visit Medellin for a vacation now, while there is clearly an organized group of criminals specifically targeting our group (mongers) is obvious. Let's just call it what it is, it's total and complete desperation. I realize I'm being judgemental and my situation in terms of bitches is better than most, but it still has to be said. Last thing, I wonder how many of these so called Medellin vets are moving the same way as my girls family. Just basically stuck in one spot never venturing out here or there, always watching their back and the like. That is a fucking prison cell. I'm not saying all are moving like that but I'm willing to bet a lot of them are. The fact that our society in North America has made it so inhospitable to men is what I'm most upset about. The fact that some would rather risk their own safety to fuck a ***** than stay home speaks volumes. There are other spots where you can happily monger without worrying about this bullshit that's going on in Medellin (Cartagena, Dominican Republic (the whole country not just Sosua) Brazil, Mexico, Costa Rica, Thailand, Europe, etc. Sorry for the rant. Thanks.
A Canadian was a victim but the girl was arrested.
https://www.minuto30.com/mujer-drogo-canadiense-para-robo-laureles/1400295/
She even tried to steal his electric razor. That's cold blooded. The tramadol they found on her is no joke. That shit can kill someone with an overdose.
A Canadian was a victim but the girl was arrested.
https://www.minuto30.com/mujer-drogo-canadiense-para-robo-laureles/1400295/
Is Medellin even worth going to anymore? From all the insane stories of scolp to more thefts and crime I can't for the life of me see any reason anyone goes here anymore. I've heard the chicas are now as entitled as American women and demand like $200 for 90 minutes and they act like divas. I could fuck hotter ones in Spain for that price what the fuck. Plus all of the simps that came here during the pandemic ruined it by sending these girls money and paying ridiculous quotes. Idk man I just don't see any good reasons to go here anymore, there's better and safer places. The only reason was to pay for hot chicks for low prices but even now they are asking for way too much.Yeah its worth it, people just need to stop inviting girls over they don't know to their place like why'all BFFs.
I just got back from there and had a blast during my 2 week stay. I'm not sure where you are finding these $200 girls, must be Gusto's and I would suggest getting them somewhere else. I did not pay more than $65 for anywhere between a couple of hours to overnight. Getting Scoped is from being stupid and putting yourself in that situation. I have spent quite a bit of time down there and love the Colombian women, most are awesome to spend time with and are not Divas in any means.I wouldn't go to Spain over Colombia for the girls. But cannot argue the costs in Colombia have gone up, $100 per night accommodation prices are compatible to those in the EU are common and there are a lot of dudes now throwing money around!
Then go to Spain. See how easy that was. In less than the time it took you to write your post, you could have booked a flight and found a place to stay.
This works for any place in the world. If you don't want to go there and would rather go somewhere else, just go where you want to go. There's no reason to come here and list all the reasons why you would rather go somewhere else. If you decide to buy tools at Home Depot do you first stop by Lowes to yell "I don't want to shop here?I didn't mean to shit on medellin, it's just that the main allure for me was being able to bang young hot chicks for less than $50 and even cheaper but now the girls who are hot at a minimum are charging higher than a $100? And the cost of the airbnbs and other things seems to have exploded. Combine this with the crime reports and the stigma against gringos I just am swayed off by it, rather do Mexico or Thailand where the prices are still okay for what you get.
Iguana Six
01-22-23, 03:00
Hi all, this is a pretty stupid post for some, but I really really have the itch to try BBFS. Never done it before, and I am getting into my 40's soon. So, was really hoping to get some BB action once or twice atleast during this upcoming trip to Medellin. Need your advice.
I realize that there is a risk factor that is not zero for sure. But, I am trying to minimize HIV risk as much as possible. So, was hoping to see only selectively someone who is having a family, has kids, is not a 'professional' who is visiting strip clubs etc. I. e. Someone who is homely person and not going out for sex every other day with strangers. I think I have found a few FB girls like that profile. I am planning to carry the oraquick hiv test kit with me and have the girl do a quick saliva test before the act.
Any ideas on what the risk factor could be in the above for contracting hiv? Sorry I know I am being too paranoid / asking a stupid question, but hopefully you understand from the pov of someone who has never had BBFS before.Look into FC-2 (or FC2) internal (female) condoms. All the sensation. None of the risk.
Iguana Six
01-22-23, 03:23
Incoherently written first timer recap by a hobbyist seasoned around the globe.
I try to RTFF but also Colombia threads bloated with users off topic flame war each other really threw a wrench in my conquest.
A week before my flight I did the ISG strat to send friend requests on FB and out of 80 requests, 2 confirmed me day before flight. That's when I knew this might get a little bumpy.
Ultimately my past hobby xp of parachute into a locale, check into hotel, and meet girl an hour later kind of ruined me. That approach simply doesn't exist in Medellin.
Medellin is not a quick strike setting. It requires time, commitment, other re $ources to a point to indulge you have to plan on Medellin being your only hobby destination and have no time to hobby outside of Colombia.
The ISGers speaking highly of Medellin didn't bud overnight. Their black book took months or years or expat abroad status to have connections they're enjoying. If you're one of those congrats. Keep doing what you're doing and I salute and envy you.
However if you're a casual once every 3-5 years type visitor, Medellin might not bear the results you were hoping to indulge. There are options, but they're geared more towards locals who are too drunk to care if the girl doesn't match girl in pics. And overpriced escorts too.
Know Spanish. Have some game. And most importantly plan on visiting 3-4 times / year. Even your first visit will require additional planning of some way some how getting contacts weeks before your arrival to make sure your starting point goes smoothly, which starts to sound like a Catch 22. If this is for you, then by all means.
I don't know how else to explain it.It was a different scene back in the late 2000's: Pre-FaceBook or WhatsApp, no smart phones, etc.
I didn't mean to shit on medellin, it's just that the main allure for me was being able to bang young hot chicks for less than $50 and even cheaper but now the girls who are hot at a minimum are charging higher than a $100? And the cost of the airbnbs and other things seems to have exploded. Combine this with the crime reports and the stigma against gringos I just am swayed off by it, rather do Mexico or Thailand where the prices are still okay for what you get.Ridiculous. Hot girls can easily be gotten for (well) under the equivalent of $100 USD. I'm pickier than the vast majority of mongers and I have never paid over 250 mil pesos (for short-time). Of course some girls may "ask" for that much, but I don't care about what they ask. I tell them what I'll pay and most accept. If they don't, I move on to the next.
If you actually meet the girl in person and chat with her a bit, that makes a ton of difference. A smile and a few witty comments can go a long way. A lot better than contacting them on FB or Seeking and asking "Hi, how much do you charge for a stupid Gringo?" Though I will grant you the online options can be convenient.
As far as crime / danger, I'll grant you Spain is safer (I mentioned Germany in an earlier post which is safe and the FKKs are awesome). But if you follow a few basic rules, you'll likely be safe in Colombia.
1. Do not leave your drink out of your sight, whether it's booze or Diet Coke.
2. Stay in a place with a reception that registers guests and calls you upon your guest leaving.
3. Don't play the big shot and throw money around. No need to advertise how rich you are.
4. Don't use Tinder.
Also as far as Colombia, Medellin is hardly the only place. Plenty of other cities that haven't been overrun by Gringos.
I didn't mean to shit on medellin, it's just that the main allure for me was being able to bang young hot chicks for less than $50 and even cheaper but now the girls who are hot at a minimum are charging higher than a $100? And the cost of the airbnbs and other things seems to have exploded. Combine this with the crime reports and the stigma against gringos I just am swayed off by it, rather do Mexico or Thailand where the prices are still okay for what you get.
Ridiculous. Hot girls can easily be gotten for (well) under the equivalent of $100 USD. I'm pickier than the vast majority of mongers and I have never paid over 250 mil pesos (for short-time). Of course some girls may "ask" for that much, but I don't care about what they ask. I tell them what I'll pay and most accept. If they don't, I move on to the next.
If you actually meet the girl in person and chat with her a bit, that makes a ton of difference. A smile and a few witty comments can go a long way. A lot better than contacting them on FB or Seeking and asking "Hi, how much do you charge for a stupid Gringo?" Though I will grant you the online options can be convenient.
As far as crime / danger, I'll grant you Spain is safer (I mentioned Germany in an earlier post which is safe and the FKKs are awesome). But if you follow a few basic rules, you'll likely be safe in Colombia.
1. Do not leave your drink out of your sight, whether it's booze or Diet Coke.
2. Stay in a place with a reception that registers guests and calls you upon your guest leaving.
3. Don't play the big shot and throw money around. No need to advertise how rich you are.
4. Don't use Tinder.
Also as far as Colombia, Medellin is hardly the only place. Plenty of other cities that haven't been overrun by Gringos.Agreeing with combo. I highly recommend Medellin. Shit, just stay in the tourist area like parque larress during the dark time if you don't want to venture else where. Your not going find nothing at centro after 10 pm but homeless and ugly street walkers. Trust me, I walk it recently at 10 pm and nothing entertaining their or worthy. And the homeless people not going bother you. At the end of day, just use common sense. And if you see a chica offer a threesome. I wouldn't even bother biting that billet unless you seen one of them multiple times.
Honestly, don't make it a monger trip only. Go do some tourist stuff like commua 13. Their are enough Americans and other foreign here. I met some cool as people outside of the hobby and inside a hobby.
I got a question I want to bring a girl and her friend to Ibiza love motel she is over 18 because I've known her for a long time but she hasn't got her permanent cdula she has the contrasea and her friend has a cdula. What's the process of getting into Ibiza? Are they going to ID the girls or do they just drive in the car with me through the gate? I'm not sure how this one works. Can someone please explain thank you.
I don't need any lectures on trying to get away with something illegal because it's not what I'm trying to do. I've been around a long time. This is a legitimate question.The last few times I went to Ibiza they had somebody checking cedulas at the gate. However, that was a few years back. Last I heard they aren't checking.
The Contrasena is useless. However, if she has a picture of both sides of her cedula on her phone that will likely work. I ran into the same situation just before Christmas. 2 of the 3 girls I took to La Isla didn't have their cedulas with them and tge photos were accepted.
Dig, I'the stay home bro. Especially if you have some self respect which a lot of guys are clearly lacking here. Especially if you are just going for the pussy and not the culture. It's obvious a few here on this forum have gone native down there in Medellin. A hundred tourists could get robbed, drugged and killed and Medellin still isn't that bad. My "wife" is from a third world country and when I go to visit her family we have to watch out how we move, what neighbourhoods we visit, and at what time of the day, can't leave the house after a certain time, etc. The whole day revolves around security and it's fucking exhausting. After a week of that shit I can't wait to come home to Toronto. Why anyone of us would choose to visit Medellin for a vacation now, while there is clearly an organized group of criminals specifically targeting our group (mongers) is obvious. Let's just call it what it is, it's total and complete desperation. I realize I'm being judgemental and my situation in terms of bitches is better than most, but it still has to be said. Last thing, I wonder how many of these so called Medellin vets are moving the same way as my girls family. Just basically stuck in one spot never venturing out here or there, always watching their back and the like. That is a fucking prison cell. I'm not saying all are moving like that but I'm willing to bet a lot of them are. The fact that our society in North America has made it so inhospitable to men is what I'm most upset about. The fact that some would rather risk their own safety to fuck a ***** than stay home speaks volumes. There are other spots where you can happily monger without worrying about this bullshit that's going on in Medellin (Cartagena, Dominican Republic (the whole country not just Sosua) Brazil, Mexico, Costa Rica, Thailand, Europe, etc. Sorry for the rant. Thanks.I'll take your bet. How much can you afford to lose? I'll even pick up my winnings in Toronto and you can pay in CAD.
I was just in Medellin over Christmas. I went all over, from El Centro to San Antonio del Prado. I walked, drove and took the Metro. Although 1 guy did try to pick my pocket (and failed), I never felt threatened or nervous. During much of the time I was with my girlfriend and her family. We were our all hours of the day and night. Nobody was hiding, or looking over their shoulder. Just relaxed good times.
Of course everyone takes normal precautions. When my girlfriend had to go to El Centro she messaged me saying she didn't want to take her phone out while she was there. That's just common sense.
Tell me how much you want to bet. If you make it worth my time I'll squeeze in a 4 or 5 day trip before the end of April and post pictures from all over to show that people aren't hiding, terrified of your bogeyman.
I didn't mean to shit on medellin, it's just that the main allure for me was being able to bang young hot chicks for less than $50 and even cheaper but now the girls who are hot at a minimum are charging higher than a $100? And the cost of the airbnbs and other things seems to have exploded. Combine this with the crime reports and the stigma against gringos I just am swayed off by it, rather do Mexico or Thailand where the prices are still okay for what you get.I'm not sure where your information comes from, but it's not a reliable source.
First, if you're looking for prices in dollars, you've already decided to screw yourself.
You can certainly spend those amounts if you want to. I think I paid over $150 per night my last trip, but that's only because I wanted to. A deluxe 2 bed 2 bath apartment with secure parking, 2 blocks from the best restaurants in Medellin is worth it to me. However, there are hundreds of options for under $50 per night.
There have been women charging $100 and up for as long as I've been going to Medellin. Or you can find beautiful women for a lot less, under $20 is possible, if you're willing to make an effort.
Anywhere you go there will be people, who have no idea what they're talking about, telling you how terrible it is. It's up to you to decide if you want to be one of them.
Then go to Spain. See how easy that was. In less than the time it took you to write your post, you could have booked a flight and found a place to stay.
This works for any place in the world. If you don't want to go there and would rather go somewhere else, just go where you want to go. There's no reason to come here and list all the reasons why you would rather go somewhere else.....I maintain there's no best mongering destination in the world. The desirability of a destination depends on the proclivity of the monger:
1) If you have the resources Germany is the best mongering destination in the world;.
2) If you favor good service above all else Brazil is the best mongering destination in the world;.
3) If you want easy access to poontang Thailand is the best mongering destination in the world;.
4) If you want cheap sex Colombia is still the best mongering destination in the world.
Ridiculous. Hot girls can easily be gotten for (well) under the equivalent of $100 USD. I'm pickier than the vast majority of mongers and I have never paid over 250 mil pesos (for short-time). Of course some girls may "ask" for that much, but I don't care about what they ask. I tell them what I'll pay and most accept. If they don't, I move on to the next.
If you actually meet the girl in person and chat with her a bit, that makes a ton of difference. A smile and a few witty comments can go a long way. A lot better than contacting them on FB or Seeking and asking "Hi, how much do you charge for a stupid Gringo?" Though I will grant you the online options can be convenient.
As far as crime / danger, I'll grant you Spain is safer (I mentioned Germany in an earlier post which is safe and the FKKs are awesome). But if you follow a few basic rules, you'll likely be safe in Colombia.
1. Do not leave your drink out of your sight, whether it's booze or Diet Coke.
2. Stay in a place with a reception that registers guests and calls you upon your guest leaving.
3. Don't play the big shot and throw money around. No need to advertise how rich you are.
4. Don't use Tinder.
Also as far as Colombia, Medellin is hardly the only place. Plenty of other cities that haven't been overrun by Gringos.I agree. This is a very insightful informative post. You can get young attractive girls for 200-300 mil but some will refuse your offer and hold out for more. There are plenty of fish in the ocean so if a girl says no to a reasonable amount, just move on to the next girl.
Taking these basic steps for safety will minimize your risks but of course, it does not eliminate the risks. Colombia as a whole is more dangerous than many of the other popular mongering countries like Thailand and Costa Rica.
RamDavidson84
01-22-23, 15:47
I maintain there's no best mongering destination in the world. The desirability of a destination depends on the proclivity of the monger:
1) If you have the resources Germany is the best mongering destination in the world;.
2) If you favor good service above all else Brazil is the best mongering destination in the world;.
3) If you want easy access to poontang Thailand is the best mongering destination in the world;.
4) If you want cheap sex Colombia is still the best mongering destination in the world.Nice post. Can you elaborate on what makes Germany superior to the others if you got the cash? Any comparisons between Colombia and Thailand. Never been to Asia or Europe, but it's on my radar.
I got a question I want to bring a girl and her friend to Ibiza love motel she is over 18 because I've known her for a long time but she hasn't got her permanent cdula she has the contrasea and her friend has a cdula. What's the process of getting into Ibiza? Are they going to ID the girls or do they just drive in the car with me through the gate? I'm not sure how this one works. Can someone please explain thank you.
I don't need any lectures on trying to get away with something illegal because it's not what I'm trying to do. I've been around a long time. This is a legitimate question.A Contrasena is a temporary ID issued by the Government that can be obtained and used by a Colombian while waiting for a Cedula.
It has a photograph of the individual, their Cedula number, along with having an expiration date on it.
The Contrasena will be accepted in lieu of a Cedula, however cannot be used for airline travel.
Mr Enternational
01-22-23, 18:16
You can get young attractive girls for 200-300 mil but some will refuse your offer and hold out for more. There are plenty of fish in the ocean so if a girl says no to a reasonable amount, just move on to the next girl.What makes 200,000 - 300,000 pesos a reasonable amount?
Is there a club or a placed called New Electro or something?
LoveItHere69
01-22-23, 19:33
I was just in Medellin over Christmas. I went all over, from El Centro to San Antonio del Prado. I walked, drove and took the Metro. Although 1 guy did try to pick my pocket (and failed), I never felt threatened or nervous. During much of the time I was with my girlfriend and her family. We were our all hours of the day and night. Nobody was hiding, or looking over their shoulder. Just relaxed good times.
Of course everyone takes normal precautions. When my girlfriend had to go to El Centro she messaged me saying she didn't want to take her phone out while she was there. That's just common sense.
First of all, everything you do is unique and special in comparison to everyone else on this site so nothing applies to you so stop defending yourself. Everyone knows just how special you are. (Just wait for it guys. He will write pages on my comment to correct me. He simply can not help himself.).
Precautions for pickpocketing applies in every country you go to in all locations day or night. The difference is when a gun is shown or they beat you up for your stuff. You simply should not go walking alone or drunk in the middle of the night in at least 60% of every city in Colombia. But yet you can do just that in Thailand or the Philippines (only countries I know and can compare) with no problems.
Most countries you only have to worry about taking out your phone when walking along a street where a motorcycle can come up behind you and snatch it. In Colombia a group of guys will walk right up to you in broad daylight and attack you for it in the front of 50+ people. The people will only watch and will not help you. Seen that many times.
Colombia is flat out a different animal in comparison to most other monger locations for two main reasons in my eyes. First, there are very few of us to support the others and no "foreigner" areas where huge numbers of foreigners can be found so you are basically on your own. Second, is the huge amount of Venies that need money to survive and to send back home.
Also, prostitutes steal from customers in every country so no news there. But I do not think using scopolamine to rob customers is used in such abundance elsewhere. Using scopolamine has killed several foreigners each and every year in Colombia. Is this common anywhere else? Comments any one because I am curious myself.
MarcoReyes
01-22-23, 19:42
Hey guys, this is my first post but I've been a long time reader of this thread. I have traveled to Medellin about 4 times in the past two and a half years and have found some decent success. I find myself now looking to expand into other ways of getting girls and building up a solid roster I am completely happy with. I've tried online escorts (mileroticos, pasionprepago and photoprepagos), Seeking, Tinder and now trying the FaceBook game. Here is some of the things I've experienced and learned about, ranging from the order of my most used methods to least used. This is only my personal experience and you're allowed to share a different perspective to educate myself and others:
Online: Pasion prepagos Medellin (search in google) is probably the most reliable website I use, photoprepagos being next with Mileroticos last but probably will find cheaper girls who are more flexible. Online is my PRIMARY way of hooking up with girls here because of how easy it is to contact the girls from WhatsApp and plan a date. The pros are that you get lots of variety and can make a list of girls you're interested in quick. Also, if there is chemistry with a girl you can have a really great time with a hot girl for very good prices by US dollar standards. The cons is that it is sometimes very hit or miss. You will get the service but some girls can rush, some might not get too into it, some might not do things you want so it is important to establish clarity before the meeting. It is also really taboo to ask for pics from these working girls, they'll usually redirect you to their ad even when they actually do look like their pics, I assume is for safety / privacy reasons. Even though some of the pics might hide some stuff, I've felt that I haven't gotten catfished too bad. These chicks are also all about the money and the really good ones can be very difficult to set up a date with, sometimes other girls will have you come to their casa and they hook you up with a different girl smh. I am fluent in Spanish so they never get to play games with me but it is very frustrating when you're really horny so beware of that and tried to confirm for sure that the session will be ONLY with the chick you're talking to. Overall I want to grow away from online escorts for girls who are less transactional, more consistent and with less direct competition for their time.
Seeking: I tried seeking and I was surprised by the amount of attention I got, for any guy with decent pics its a gold mine for attracting. Going through with dates / lays is another story though. There are different types of girls on seeking, most popular are working girls in disguise for more money & higher quality men than paisa men and also spoiled girls who are trying to get as much money as possible from foreigners in USD, trips or experiences. I found that my best strategy is funnel the massive amounts of leads to WhatsApp and figure out the girls I'll go out with from there. It's a cool process but you later find out it can be long tedious work. Pros: Girls are hot, lots of variety and girls usually answer reply at high rates, you can also ask for pics. There might be some non working girls who are new to this and if you get them to like you it CAN be way worth the $100. I still fuck with a girl I met from my first trip using Seeking, she used it to meet higher status guys while she was having some issues with her husband. I don't totally condone this but it took a while to get her comfortable enough to meet and get in bed, she is very appreciative / not high maintenance at all and until this day whenever I come back in town she makes time and effort to meet up and do everything bareback. She deleted seeking but did webcam for some time and is now doing normal work.
The cons: not every chick is like this, I'll say the majority will try to maximize the amount of money and experiences they can get from you shamelessly and will be already talking to a bunch of guys looking to do the same. I went on lots of dates my previous trips and I noticed I spent so much time vetting and planning for some of these girls to take them out on a date, that ended up a bit expensive anyway and for me to end up paying 300 k for mediocre sex smh. I realized towards the end of the trip that it was better for my mental health and time efficiency to just get escorts online because at least these girls know they're there to fuck, the vetting process is way less time consuming and they're not out here asking for phones and rent a few days into meeting you. The worst thing as a guy is investing so much time, money and energy on a chick who you think is just hot and the sex ends up being mediocre and the whole time you're thinking, I should of just hit up Mia for some proper hot 200 k sex for an hour and be happy the rest of the day 😂. Some girls are glorified expensive working girls. If you have lots of money to spend is probably your best option though, you can meet some hot young spoiled girls. I have a lot of numbers and decent girls from my previous trips using seeking but I only actively repeat with the girl I mentioned earlier and one other short red haired tiny chica who probably gives one of the best heads but quotes me 300 k / HR + taxi every time. I think she is just a working girl through seeking but is a bit too transactional despite being punctual and is getting older and chubbier lately. I don't think I will use seeking for this trip because of the time consuming nature of it but have contacts for some girls that I didn't meet last time. Now I will approach it with way less time investment and energy. All the leads you get can from seeking can be overwhelming and I did not spend as much time being present in the moment my last trip using seeking, I was constantly on my phone looking for the next hot girl who might be cool LOL. P.S. : I strongly believe there is just as many girls who are hot here in Medellin and don't know how far their hotness can take them so I am mostly look for these type of girls.
Tinder: I've only met one girl from here and it was cool but it wasn't worth it. She was a "church girl" but she got me weed, she gave me head but I didn't end up sleeping with her at the end. Tinder just doesn't work for me at all and I'm heavily turned off by the horror stories I hear from there.
FaceBook game: Brand new to this, made an account a week prior to coming but having very limited success so far. From what I heard it has huge potential and I would appreciate some advice on how I can leverage this account to get more lowkey normal or semi pro girls. I have a pro camera that I use for video content back home so all my pics are decent but I still struggle to get some replies and accepted requests. I currently have 49 friends. I've looked through this thread but haven't found much on the things I can post to have some sort of engagement in my profile and not appear as a bot. I added people using the chicacheck website and added some of the good reviewed girls friends but maybe there's more I can do? If anyone wants to connect and share some contacts or advice etc direct message me here or on FaceBook where I have the same name as here + it says I'm from Tampa, FL and born in Medellin.
Street / Casas / brothels: Have only gone to one in Centro and was not very impressed at that time of day. It was also a quick stop and I had no intentions of getting with a girl. I think there is potential here to get some proper sluts for a low price which I am very in favor of but I am not willing to do this by myself. If anyone wants to adventure out, have a good time and check out some of the popular places on here together DM me, I am open to exploring more during this trip.
Day game: Only did day game once here but the quality of the girls you approach is much higher than online for obvious reasons. I mostly talk to girls doing normal jobs and have had success considering how little I've done it. I am open to doing more of this during this trip.
Overall this trip:
I find myself in a unique position where I have a father that lives and does business here so I am staying for over a month this time around and I'm able to stay at any hotel I want because I am not tied down to one place that I'm already paying for. I am a fluent Spanish speaker, I know a few of older locals through family (they're always working, no money + time) and will like to meet other mongers to have fun, introduce and meet girls. My goal this trip is to create so much value on my FB page from hanging out and going to cool places that I have inbound girls in the DM's that are comfortable enough to hang out, and then later build out a solid roster with attractive non pro and semi pro girls that I get from FB, day game etc. Using these consistent properly vetted girls I want to meet with other ambitious mongers (LOL) and see if we can host fun private parties and shit (nothing crazy), maybe create some content for some of these girls for some extended play time. I know a few places that aren't too expensive and with the right girls, can be a fucking blast! These are all ideas and I am open to sharing what I've learned during my trips and hearing criticism. I barely drink alcohol and smoke weed during the night sometimes just to sleep and fuck mostly, but I am not judgmental as long as you don't let any of that shit negatively affect yourself and others. I have hella game, can communicate well and can figure out suspicious situations / people so hit me up if you want to kick it one of these days and want to wander a little more comfortable during your stay. I am staying until the 20th of February. I can expand on some of my points with more information to whoever is curious on here and responds to this thread. I will do some more reports throughout my trips hopefully some of you guys get some value from them!
What makes 200,000 - 300,000 pesos a reasonable amount?It seems to be the number that many FB girls will accept but it does not mean that girls will not accept less. Personally, it is a number that I am comfortable with and don't mind spending if you are a young attractive girl and will give me GFE for at least an hour and a half to two hours. I don't like a lot of back and forth in negotiations and for me personally, 150 mil for FB girls got a lot more pushback than 200 mil.
You can say, well, that is much higher than the 40 mil streetwalker in El Centro but it is also less than the girls in the higher priced nightclubs. Pay what you are willing to pay and don't worry about what the other guy is paying. That is my motto.
I just got back from 8 days in Medellin and want to share my experiences with dating, semipros, casas and strip clubs. It helps me put my thoughts down as I process things and hopefully can be helpful to all of you who want current intel. I'm going to start off with the more straight-up P4 P casas, strip clubs, and photoprepagos girl as that's relatively easy to chronicle.
I visited a number of Centro casas with another member who I've known for a while including Zandaly, Sexy Amigas, Dulce Compania, New Life and Aiffe. I also went to Ellas Erotic in Luareles and visited Cristal a PSE photoprepagos provider I'd seen before.
In terms of Centro casas, Zandaly was by far my favorite. The girls there were thinner and more to my taste and there are a couple that have nice faces too. I tried a couple providers a tall dark Venezualan called Charlotte and a whiter girl called Andrea. Both of them gave good service with uncovered CIM etc for extra. Zandaly's was also the cheapest spot covering 55 k for half an hour 50 k bbj and 20 k CIM. Both girls I saw were borderline GFE with open-mouth kissing and caressing. Charlotte was able to deepthroat me and let me face fuck her a bit. My friend and I went three times and we ended up getting to know and talking to the manager a bit as we both speak Spanish. They have a VIP room you can take girls into to talk to them which is free of cost. It also has natural light so you can see facial or body flaws better. The rooms are standard but there is a nicer one on the main floor. My buddy had a good connection with one of the girls and ended up paying her 400 k to go to La Piscina swingers club with him another night.
I visited Sexy Amigas, Dulce Compania, New Life, and AIffe each once and was less impressed. New Life has a lot of girls and a couple ok looking ones but they were worse than Zandaly's talent in my opinion so I just paid the 3 k viewer fee and left. Dulce Compania looked like it had nice facilities and was full of Colombians. But the girls were all thick to downright fat so I left. Most of the girls were heavier at Dulce Compania too (there were only four the time we visited). Finally, Aiffe is downright scary. It looked like at least two of the girls were almost crying when they did the presentation and the manager looked like a bona fide pimp. Those are not things that enhance a casa experience, for me at least. The other casas also charge more than Zandaly (60 k to 80 k if my memory serves).
In terms of strip clubs, I went to the Hilton Grill, which is a local spot my friend was a big fan of. He had some luck with a dancer there that we hung out with. I'm not a big fan of the strip club model in Medellin or generally (though I've had some fun at Mexican strip clubs), but I decided to give it a shot with my friend and spent a night there. We ordered a bottle of Ron Caldas and a couple of drinks for his girl he already knew and a good-looking, slim white paisa from Bello for me and spent a couple of hours talking and listening to the music. The culture here seems to be that they hang out and talk but don't sit on your lap or do crazy things as much as my experience in Mexico. Drinks were pretty reasonable (7 k for beers for girls) and the bottle we split was 100 k. I didn't have much of a connection with the girl, which normally would cause me to send her off, but my buddy told me that it had taken him a while to win over his amiga so I kept her around. So I figured what the hell, its pretty cheap why not see where things go. After a couple hours hanging out, I took my girl to the back for 80 k and gave her 20 k more for BBBJ. She gave me a selfish hot girl sort of performance where we fucked a bunch in the positions she wanted. She was touching herself while we fucked and seemed to be enjoying herself but was less attentive to me. Did some BBBJ but not a load. I have issues cumming sometimes, especially if I feel things are off so I didn't cum. She did offer uncovered sex but I declined (not going to do that with a cheap stripper). Anyway, she seemed pissed at the end of the night that I hadn't cum. It probably punctured her image of herself as hot shit. Anyway, all this reinforced my poor impression of strip clubs even though I know some of you are into them. I've been to three now in Medellin (Conejitas and Barra Executiva) and they are not for me. The normal fee to take a girl to the back at Hilton Grill is 70 k by the way but my girl was apparently the top earner in the club so she charged a little more. The rooms are pretty low-end.
I also tried a higher end casa Ellas Erotic in Luareles. They have a couple of locations one of which is near the church of the Americas and is 5 minutes from where I was staying in Santa Monica. It's definitely a bit more upscale than the Centro spots but I'd also recommend it, rough edges and implementation aside. They have a website https://ellaserotic.com/ which lists the girls in their two locations and their extras. They cover 80 k half hour and 140 k for the hour. You send a WhatsApp and make an appointment with the chica you want to see. I found the whole website and system to be clunky and confusing, especially with the two locations. The girl's names aren't listed on the main page (you have to click on photos). I asked who was available the day I went and it was hard to quickly settle on a choice given the two locations and lack of names on the landing page. Because of these issues, I ended up booking a girl at the wrong location. Luckily they were willing to give me a lineup when I arrived at the Americas location. The facilities are definitely more upscale and the girls were generally a bit hotter as well. I ended up going for an hour with Zoe. She is a cute morena clara with a nice tight body and is studying business. I had a pleasant hour with her and we had sex for most of the hour. We hit it off well and seemed to have a good connection as I made her laugh repeatedly. I asked her to show me the craziest positions she knew and we invented a few together as well. She has anal and BBBJ as extras. She wouldn't do anal with me due to my size / thickness but she said she does it with most guys. Definitely a pro but in a good way. She'd punch my arm when I teased her and made her laugh and accuse me of making her look unprofessional / abandon her image and decor.
Finally, I mentioned Cristal from Photoprepagos before. I still highly recommend her as she's the most PSE pro I've been with in Medellin. She charged me her grandfathered rate of 200 k for a PSE hour, though apparently, prices are going up. Did anal with her and you can face fuck her like in a porno (with the sound and all). She does CIM and Cum on her face and likes you to smack her in the face with your dick. She also talks really dirty to you if you ask. She's no longer the freakiest girl I met in Medellin (more to come in the second part), but is close. I tried to invite her to La Piscina (the biggest swinger club in town) and she was very enthusiastic when I saw her in person. She even said she'd love to come with a friend of mine who'd gone with me before and she'd eat her out. But when it actually came time to take details and set it up she seemed to chicken out. I think she's most comfortable in her work apartment vs. Outside of her apartment in Laureles. She told me a bit more about her other business and her life outside escorting this time, which was interesting. I could probably easily develop a borderline friendship, as far as clients go, with her if I invested the time.
Overall, the only bad experience I had was at the Hilton grill with the stripper. Everything else was great. I do recommend talking with a chica you are interested in a bit before pulling the trigger (especially if you speak Spanish) as that gives you a hint of how things will go down. It's usually worth bailing if you don't feel there is much of a connection between you.
Ridiculous. Hot girls can easily be gotten for (well) under the equivalent of $100 USD.....You are right. He is not really wrong if he had qualified with the word some popular. They were finding girls in the wrong place
I purchase a iPhone 11 (cheap) a while back. So I always travel with two phones when visiting foreign countries. I keep the main one at hotel / airbnb (newest iPhone) and just walk around with the 11 (wouldn't care that much if someone steals it) I use google fi esim function and terminate service when I arrive back in the states. Esim saves the hassle in going to a cell store in a foreign country. But yes, make sure your phone is unlock. Also, not sure on android but iPhone can have 2 lines active for the ones that travels with just one phone.Could you share info on what company you use. I am sort of Familiar with the e sim I use it as my main sim back home and was able to get a physical sim to use simultaneously while in Thailand but I didn't know you could get an esim in a foreign country as well?
No matter where you get your SIM make sure you go to the service provider (Claro, etc.) and have it registered properly (if you bought it from a company store they would do that when they first install it) Otherwise that phone will be locked out after 30 days, and the lock is on the IME of the phone, so you will never be able to use it in Colombia again.
Happened to me. You may be able to get that lock removed on a subsequent trip, but you can only do that by going back to the original provider, with the phone number, passport, etc. Took me a couple of days.Thanks this is very useful information and potentially saved me a huge headache. Appreciated.
Cash: If you have to exchange cash. You can exchange some at the airport. Like others have said, ATM will be better.
SIM card:
There used to be a place similar to a bookstore or something on the second floor that you can get SIM card in the airport . You have to ask because it may not be on display. You can kill sometime while trying to find it but I don't know if it is still there.
Once you are in the city, if it is still early and you want to kill some time. Go to Botero Plaza to sightseeing. There is a WOM store by the white church Veracruz. They usually have staff that can speak English. You can pay 20 mil for 30 days or whatever days you need for less cost, but you need to have your passport with you. This will register your phone in their system so it won't be locked after 30 days. The official stores like this are more like full service and stores of this provider usually are less busy. The other providers often have longer lines I think because they offer more services
There is a cafe that is part of the museum. You can order something and sit on the patio to people watch if you have time to kill.
There are many neighborhood stores that sell SIM. These are like the airport one, and they may be able to help you setup SIM card and put data in your SIM.
Then there are street vendors. Yo can only buy SIM which is normally 5 mil but you can get it for 3 mil in some places. You need to go to GANA to show your phone number and name of the provider to put data on the phone. I think the least expensive plan is 5 mil. GANA is everywhere so you won't miss it.
Pictures:
The for sale sign next to the 000 is the WOM store location. You can see the white Veracruz church to the left.
You can kill more time to have lunch at the restaurant across from the white church. You can see all the actions from the patio, bring your binoculars. This picture is old. It now has a glass walkway.Thank you for the very detailed post!
Cheers!
I just got back from 8 days in Medellin and want to share my experiences with dating, semipros, casas and strip clubs. It helps me put my thoughts down as I process things and hopefully can be helpful to all of you who want current intel. I'm going to start off with the more straight-up P4 P casas, strip clubs, and photoprepagos girl as that's relatively easy to chronicle.
I visited a number of Centro casas with another member who I've known for a while including Zandaly, Sexy Amigas, Dulce Compania, New Life and Aiffe. I also went to Ellas Erotic in Luareles and visited Cristal a PSE photoprepagos provider I'd seen before.
In terms of Centro casas, Zandaly was by far my favorite. The girls there were thinner and more to my taste and there are a couple that have nice faces too. I tried a couple providers a tall dark Venezualan called Charlotte and a whiter girl called Andrea. Both of them gave good service with uncovered CIM etc for extra. Zandaly's was also the cheapest spot covering 55 k for half an hour 50 k bbj and 20 k CIM. Both girls I saw were borderline GFE with open-mouth kissing and caressing. Charlotte was able to deepthroat me and let me face fuck her a bit. My friend and I went three times and we ended up getting to know and talking to the manager a bit as we both speak Spanish. They have a VIP room you can take girls into to talk to them which is free of cost. It also has natural light so you can see facial or body flaws better. The rooms are standard but there is a nicer one on the main floor. My buddy had a good connection with one of the girls and ended up paying her 400 k to go to La Piscina swingers club with him another night.
I visited Sexy Amigas, Dulce Compania, New Life, and AIffe each once and was less impressed. New Life has a lot of girls and a couple ok looking ones but they were worse than Zandaly's talent in my opinion so I just paid the 3 k viewer fee and left. Dulce Compania looked like it had nice facilities and was full of Colombians. But the girls were all thick to downright fat so I left. Most of the girls were heavier at Dulce Compania too (there were only four the time we visited). Finally, Aiffe is downright scary. It looked like at least two of the girls were almost crying when they did the presentation and the manager looked like a bona fide pimp. Those are not things that enhance a casa experience, for me at least. The other casas also charge more than Zandaly (60 k to 80 k if my memory serves).
In terms of strip clubs, I went to the Hilton Grill, which is a local spot my friend was a big fan of. He had some luck with a dancer there that we hung out with. I'm not a big fan of the strip club model in Medellin or generally (though I've had some fun at Mexican strip clubs), but I decided to give it a shot with my friend and spent a night there. We ordered a bottle of Ron Caldas and a couple of drinks for his girl he already knew and a good-looking, slim white paisa from Bello for me and spent a couple of hours talking and listening to the music. The culture here seems to be that they hang out and talk but don't sit on your lap or do crazy things as much as my experience in Mexico. Drinks were pretty reasonable (7 k for beers for girls) and the bottle we split was 100 k. I didn't have much of a connection with the girl, which normally would cause me to send her off, but my buddy told me that it had taken him a while to win over his amiga so I kept her around. So I figured what the hell, its pretty cheap why not see where things go. After a couple hours hanging out, I took my girl to the back for 80 k and gave her 20 k more for BBBJ. She gave me a selfish hot girl sort of performance where we fucked a bunch in the positions she wanted. She was touching herself while we fucked and seemed to be enjoying herself but was less attentive to me. Did some BBBJ but not a load. I have issues cumming sometimes, especially if I feel things are off so I didn't cum. She did offer uncovered sex but I declined (not going to do that with a cheap stripper). Anyway, she seemed pissed at the end of the night that I hadn't cum. It probably punctured her image of herself as hot shit. Anyway, all this reinforced my poor impression of strip clubs even though I know some of you are into them. I've been to three now in Medellin (Conejitas and Barra Executiva) and they are not for me. The normal fee to take a girl to the back at Hilton Grill is 70 k by the way but my girl was apparently the top earner in the club so she charged a little more. The rooms are pretty low-end.
I also tried a higher end casa Ellas Erotic in Luareles. They have a couple of locations one of which is near the church of the Americas and is 5 minutes from where I was staying in Santa Monica. It's definitely a bit more upscale than the Centro spots but I'd also recommend it, rough edges and implementation aside. They have a website https://ellaserotic.com/ which lists the girls in their two locations and their extras. They cover 80 k half hour and 140 k for the hour. You send a WhatsApp and make an appointment with the chica you want to see. I found the whole website and system to be clunky and confusing, especially with the two locations. The girl's names aren't listed on the main page (you have to click on photos). I asked who was available the day I went and it was hard to quickly settle on a choice given the two locations and lack of names on the landing page. Because of these issues, I ended up booking a girl at the wrong location. Luckily they were willing to give me a lineup when I arrived at the Americas location. The facilities are definitely more upscale and the girls were generally a bit hotter as well. I ended up going for an hour with Zoe. She is a cute morena clara with a nice tight body and is studying business. I had a pleasant hour with her and we had sex for most of the hour. We hit it off well and seemed to have a good connection as I made her laugh repeatedly. I asked her to show me the craziest positions she knew and we invented a few together as well. She has anal and BBBJ as extras. She wouldn't do anal with me due to my size / thickness but she said she does it with most guys. Definitely a pro but in a good way. She'd punch my arm when I teased her and made her laugh and accuse me of making her look unprofessional / abandon her image and decor.
Finally, I mentioned Cristal from Photoprepagos before. I still highly recommend her as she's the most PSE pro I've been with in Medellin. She charged me her grandfathered rate of 200 k for a PSE hour, though apparently, prices are going up. Did anal with her and you can face fuck her like in a porno (with the sound and all). She does CIM and Cum on her face and likes you to smack her in the face with your dick. She also talks really dirty to you if you ask. She's no longer the freakiest girl I met in Medellin (more to come in the second part), but is close. I tried to invite her to La Piscina (the biggest swinger club in town) and she was very enthusiastic when I saw her in person. She even said she'd love to come with a friend of mine who'd gone with me before and she'd eat her out. But when it actually came time to take details and set it up she seemed to chicken out. I think she's most comfortable in her work apartment vs. Outside of her apartment in Laureles. She told me a bit more about her other business and her life outside escorting this time, which was interesting. I could probably easily develop a borderline friendship, as far as clients go, with her if I invested the time.
Overall, the only bad experience I had was at the Hilton grill with the stripper. Everything else was great. I do recommend talking with a chica you are interested in a bit before pulling the trigger (especially if you speak Spanish) as that gives you a hint of how things will go down. It's usually worth bailing if you don't feel there is much of a connection between you.Thanks I very much enjoyed reading your post and really looking forward to post two and who the freakiest girl in MDE is. I def into trying a PSE session or two.
Is the he Cristal you referenced?
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/exquisita-y-rica-dama-te-hara-temblar-de-placer-id-7td2e
I'm also really into nonpros and semipros as I've written about and have previously written about some of those experiences. I primarily use Facebook but have also started to use Instagram and tinder a bit. I've written about some of my methods for finding nonpros and semipros in previous posts on Facebook. I don't bother with paid services like Seeking or Colombian Cupid as Facebook has generally been a good source of girls for me. For safety my advise is always to chat as extensively with girls as possible and ask for social media (if you meet them on tinder) as well as about jobs, studying, barrio etc.
Now, my primary goal (this is my 5th trip) has been to develop a stable core of girls I can see in the future. I've developed what I consider deep connections with four or five girls in the past but its been hard to keep things up in the past due to emotional issues (primarily the fact I'm married and in an open relationship) or money issues as I'm not especially interested in sending money to girls when I'm not there. These past girls are all nonpros or at least did not charge me money upfront for sex. Of course, the lines here are quite blurred. I had issues this trip, for example, with a girl I'd seen in July who I'd had a great time with. She went to Las Piscinas with my in July and we had some crazy sex together. This time, she had just come home from a vacation and flaked on me a couple times. The timing may have been bad, but the flaking wasn't cool in my book. This girl is webcam, onlyfans and dates guys as a semipro but she'd been clear with me in the past that we were true friends and she didn't want any money from me. I was also minorly in love with a webcam girl I met in last January who had feelings for me as well but we ended up clashing and fighting due to those emotional issues. I have started rethinking issues surrounding money and may send small amounts of money randomly, for birthdays or special occasions. It seems like a good way of showing affection and fitting the local culture. Ultimately I think investing a little money could be worth it if I can maintain the sorts of connections I want. There are also some great semipros out there and I may focus more on some of them.
I set up concrete dates with eight girls, went out with six girls, and ended up sleeping with three of them. I found the girls on Facebook and one from tinder using criteria for semi to nonpros I've previously written about. I enjoyed the dates generally as I picked out restaurants I would have liked to eat at anyway and places I wanted to visit. I'd generally offer up a potential second part to the date if I enjoyed the girls company. On all of the occasions, I felt there was good chemistry I had no trouble inviting a girl back to my place after that first date.
Now in terms of dating there are a few things to watch out for. 1) There are a number of flaky girls. You will probably have some ditch plans with you. There were a few girls I wanted to see that I never managed to make concrete plans with and a couple who made plans with me and bailed on those plans due to weather, being scared or other issues.
2) There are girls that are interested but scared of seeing you. I did have lunch at Mayorca mall with an 18 year I'd been chatting with who worked there to reassure her. She still chickened out of a second date despite being affectionate when I saw her. I've had similar issues in the past. I'd also say past good dates don't guarantee you'll see a girl in the future. I had a great date with a girl I met in July who was begging me to come to my apartment that last trip. Either she was genuinely busy or significantly cooled to me this time. I'd write off any girls that are unsure or seem like they'd chicken out due to the wealth of options out there.
3) there is a class of girl that is looking to make gringo friends to take her out on your dime. I'm agnostic about this. I don't mind making platonic friends if the girl is genuinely cool. For example, I went out with a strata 5 law student this trip who speaks English fluently and told me a lot of interesting things about Medellin. She was so interested I'd be happy to take her out again as I know I'd learn more about the city, culture and possibly go places I didn't know about with her. These girls can also be useful local connections as well. I've known another girl since July who has taken me to some cool spots and helped me set up a tooth cleaning and find different things in the city. However, I'm not interested in making loads of those sorts of friendships. I also went out with another girl like that (costena) I met on tinder for coffee who was at least a cheap date. She was nice enough but no clear chemistry. I played up the body language game touching her arm, shoulders, brushing her hair etc and even asked her about things but didn't get a great response from her. But conversation and company for 10 am coffee weren't bad for the price of taxis and a cup of coffee.
4) Finally there are some semipros who will just assume you know that they want money without asking for it. This is not a bad thing necessarily unless you are expressly avoiding paid sex. These tend to be younger and poorer girls. You should easily be able to figure this out, though, when you talk to them either in person or over chat. If you are trying to avoid paid sex, I'd talk about how you prefer "sexo con atracion mutuo" vs. "sexo pagado" and see what their reactions are. I did have a funny issue this trip with a girl I met where I forgot to have that conversation. She was 18 years old and tiny (like 4 feet tall) but cute and she was from a very poor / troubled background in Manrique. I took her out to eat (paid taxis etc) and at the end of the meal she asked me if I wanted to take her to my place. She was cute enough so I thought why not though I didn't think hard about how much money I had on me. Anyway, she was very affectionate with me the whole time and we had great sex. Everything was very GFE. Lots of making out, groping in the shower, and a couple of rounds of sex in different positions. She was more the romantic / affectionate than wild type. At the end of the date after we were getting the taxi at the door she asked if I was going to give her anything. I had 100 k in my wallet, which I gave her. Afterward, I got messages about how she wasn't a "puta barrata" and such, which was kind of funny (I guess she thought of herself as a puta carra). Luckily no issues, though. But I could have avoided issues if I'd been more careful talking about sex beforehand. I also clearly told her that she should tell gringos she was looking for money for sex, especially if they took her out to eat vs. Asking her to come to their apartments. I think we ended on ok terms and maybe she learned a valuable lesson. It's funny because she told me the only person she'd ever have unpaid sex with would be a boyfriend. I think this is a widespread attitude, especially among poorer and younger girls. I do think we had some genuine chemistry, or she was an amazing actress, as the sex was good and naturally flowing.
5) There are some genuinely sweet girls out there who are not interesada (gold diggers) at all. I went out with a girl I'd talked to on Facebook who was super sweet with me and very cool about money issues, especially for a Colombian. She paid for her own taxi to the date at a Peruvian restaurant in Laureles. She paid for our metro fares around the city as we went up to the Parque Arvi line afterward. Those sort of little gestures are a huge positive sign for me that I'm not dealing with an interesada. There was also lots of hand-holding and hugging from the beginning of our date and she made sweet gestures like giving me an earbud to listen to music and offering me use of her phone's hotspot when I was having internet issues. After going up the cable car and back, I offered for her to hang out at my place and had sex with her. She was pretty kinky / wild. She knew how to deepthroat and did CIM with swallow and told me about a lot of crazy sexual things she tried in the past. Her pictures were better looking than in person (which is another issue you commonly run into). But I think her sweetness and energy more than made up for that. She didn't want and I didn't offer any money to her. Her family owned a big pizza spot in Manrique and she was relatively well off. I only ended up being able to see her once. I think she was a bit off put by the fact I was married as well (something I thought I'd told her in chat but that seems to have only come out after we had sex).
6) The last girl I met was the best girl I met on this trip and someone I'd keep in touch with. She ended up being that "the me lo que quieres" type which we talked about quite explicitly and at length as I got to know her better. However, I'm more than happy to give this girl a little money because she ended up being one of the freakiest women I've met in my life (not just Colombia) and we had great energy and chemistry together. She is a light-skinned morena with straight her, a decent but not incredible face but a smoking body. I wouldn't have taken her for a freak as her pictures on her Facebook are quite conservative. I'd chatted with her since July and she has a boyfriend, which weirded me out a bit as I was worried I might have some Colombian guy after me if I saw her. However, it seems she is in some sort of open relationship and her boyfriend is ok with her fucking other guys, which I realize is also not so uncommon, especially in the pro-to-semipro realm. Anyway, I decided to have a beer on la 70 with her when I had a free moment because we'd been chatting so long and she'd been saying she wanted to see me. But I had no expectations of actually fucking her. We talked about a lot of things and our conversation turned to things like our craziest sexual experiences. I told her about how I enjoyed the swinger club here in Medellin and it became clear she'd never gone but was interested in the experience. She also made it clear to me that she was very open-minded sexually and liked having sex, so I thought why not and took her back to my apartment (I actually flaked on another girl I was planning to see). Anyway, after a few drinks and more talking we got to sex. I found out quickly she was into being dominated and degraded. She asked me to choke her and spit on her face while we were having sex and got off on me cumming on her face and begging for my leche. I gave her 200 k and paid for her taxis, which she was happy with.
On my last night in Medellin, I took her out again to tres cordilleras brewery where there was a cover band playing rock when we came, and afterwards took her to La Piscina. I've been to La Piscina once before with another open-minded girl and had a lot of fun (to the point where I've recommended it as one of my favorite spots in the city). This girl took to the swingers club like a duck to water. She was dancing on me naked in no time, sucking me off in front of everyone, and fucking in the jacuzzi like a natural. She also was intrigued by the BDSM room and asked for me to fuck her in the stockade they had there (which was cool in theory but kind of hard in practice given our body types / sizes). We also had sex in the smoking room next to my buddy and his girl. The craziest part, though is when we found a quiet place for me to cum (as fucking in front of people makes it harder for me to cum). She was masturbating as I jerked off on her face and squirted all over my leg as I came. We were also approached by a girl who was looking to swap or I think get at me. I let my girl deal with her, as I think that's the gentlemanly thing to do given the situation. They danced on each other a bit but it was my girl's judgment that she wasn't hot enough to do anything with. Piscinas had about 30 or 40 couples there when we were there and there were plenty of girls stripping, a couple of couples that fucked on stage, and a couple of girls that fucked each other on stage. It remains one of my favorite places to go, with a freaky girl of course. My buddy's girl was less comfortable with the environment and he didn't have nearly as good of a time as the two of us. I gave this girl another 200 k after we had gone out and had been fucking in Las Piscinas for four hours straight. The lines here are way blurrier around money than in other spots. I felt like we had really great chemistry and mutual attraction making the sex and companionship as good or better than any nonpro I've been with (she squirted on me after all jajaja). So I'd be more than happy to give her a bit of money when we see each other next time I'm in Medellin.
Overall, I'm starting to think that good semipros may be a better long-term way of developing a stable of girls than nonpros, though I'm still happy to fuck nonpros. I'd suggest that you should focus on more middle and upper-class types if you want true nonpros. Also clearly discuss sex and money issues in person on your date or in chats. Most girls are open and / or fine with those sorts of discussions about what they expect (I. E. Money for sex). You can pretty much get everything you'd get sexually with a nonpro from a semipro as well. The only thing that may be lacking is the rush that comes when deep feelings are present. Nonpros I've met in the past, especially the poorer ones tend to be waiting for you to show affection by sending a little money or helping them out financially in a jam. So the differences are more nuanced than one might think.
VsebudetNY
01-22-23, 23:04
A Contrasena is a temporary ID issued by the Government that can be obtained and used by a Colombian while waiting for a Cedula.
It has a photograph of the individual, their Cedula number, along with having an expiration date on it.
The Contrasena will be accepted in lieu of a Cedula, however cannot be used for airline travel.The Contrasena will NOT be accepted in lieu of a Cedula in ALL places. Firsthand knowledge: San Peter will not allow chica with contrasena to enter the building.
Mr Enternational
01-23-23, 00:19
The Contrasena will NOT be accepted in lieu of a Cedula in ALL places. Firsthand knowledge: San Peter will not allow chica with contrasena to enter the building.Or even hardly any places. My girlfriend left her ID at the bus station in Valledupar when she went to Medellin to look for a job. I went to visit and stayed at the San Peter. They would not let her in with that picture bullshit. I cursed her out and asked her how she even thought that could be a thing. She claimed the people thought she was a hooker. I said no because a friend of mine came over once and I wanted to show him the place but they would not let him in either because he did not have ID with him.
She did not last long in Medellin. She was staying up high in the hood with her cousin who is a nurse. She said she could not take living in those barrio conditions. When we went to her cousin's place it felt like the taxi was about to pop a wheelie with those steep inclines.
After we got there she wanted to go smoke some weed. We went crossing a river, past a play ground, and back into some woods and she bought a blunt from some guy there. She gave him a 20 and he was supposed to bring her some chage back. He never came back. I was like he ain't going nowhere; you can get it from him next time. It was pitch black dark but the view was amazing.
We walked back to the apartment and I had the munchies like a mf. I saw a store with an ice cream cooler in the distance. I said I am going to be mad as hell if that shit is a mirage or if it is empty when we get there. It was real though and I bought the three of us ice cream.
We went back to the section where her cousin lives and stood out eating our ice creams. I kept taking my phone out to take some nice pictures that I imagined. Her cousin kept telling me to keep my phone in my pocket before I get robbed. I said what the fuck are we doing standing out here eating ice cream if it is so damn dangerous. She claimed we would not get rob if they could not visibly see anything to rob us for.
I finally called an Uber to get the hell out of there. The street was so narrow and inclined that it took the Uber like 20 minutes to turn the car around. He was sweating like a mf and I was ducked down. I think he finally just ended up going in reverse to the next intersection where he could turn it around. They had told me to get in the car and don't look back. LOL.
Thanks I very much enjoyed reading your post and really looking forward to post two and who the freakiest girl in MDE is. I def into trying a PSE session or two.
Is the he Cristal you referenced?
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/exquisita-y-rica-dama-te-hara-temblar-de-placer-id-7td2eYes. That's her.
I also tried a higher end casa Ellas Erotic in Luareles. They have a couple of locations one of which is near the church of the Americas and is 5 minutes from where I was staying in Santa Monica. It's definitely a bit more upscale than the Centro spots but I'd also recommend it, rough edges and implementation aside. They have a website https://ellaserotic.com/ which lists the girls in their two locations and their extras. They cover 80 k half hour and 140 k for the hour. You send a WhatsApp and make an appointment with the chica you want to see. I found the whole website and system to be clunky and confusing, especially with the two locations. The girl's names aren't listed on the main page (you have to click on photos). I asked who was available the day I went and it was hard to quickly settle on a choice given the two locations and lack of names on the landing page. Because of these issues, I ended up booking a girl at the wrong location. Luckily they were willing to give me a lineup when I arrived at the Americas location. The facilities are definitely more upscale and the girls were generally a bit hotter as well. I ended up going for an hour with Zoe. She is a cute morena clara with a nice tight body and is studying business. I had a pleasant hour with her and we had sex for most of the hour. We hit it off well and seemed to have a good connection as I made her laugh repeatedly. I asked her to show me the craziest positions she knew and we invented a few together as well. She has anal and BBBJ as extras. She wouldn't do anal with me due to my size / thickness but she said she does it with most guys. Definitely a pro but in a good way. She'd punch my arm when I teased her and made her laugh and accuse me of making her look unprofessional / abandon her image and decor.
Very nice report, Thanks a lot for sharing the details.
I would love to expand my knowledge of casa in laureles. Sometimes going to centro seems like a bad option. Is Ellas Erotic close to Energy Spa? Are they usually not inclined to show you the line up And how much extra you had to pay for kissing, BBBJ etc?
Thanks for a wonderful report. Haven't seen one like this for a long time.
Is it generally safe to visit the prepagos in their apartments?
Hey guys, this is my first post but I've been a long time reader of this thread. I have traveled to Medellin about 4 times in the past two and a half years and have found some decent success. I find myself now looking to expand into other ways of getting girls and building up a solid roster I am completely happy with. I've tried online escorts (mileroticos, pasionprepago and photoprepagos), Seeking, Tinder and now trying the FaceBook game. Here is some of the things I've experienced and learned about, ranging from the order of my most used methods to least used. This is only my personal experience and you're allowed to share a different perspective to educate myself and others:
Online: Pasion prepagos Medellin (search in google) is probably the most reliable website I use, photoprepagos being next with Mileroticos last but probably will find cheaper girls who are more flexible. Online is my PRIMARY way of hooking up with girls here because of how easy it is to contact the girls from WhatsApp and plan a date. The pros are that you get lots of variety and can make a list of girls you're interested in quick. Also, if there is chemistry with a girl you can have a really great time with a hot girl for very good prices by US dollar standards. The cons is that it is sometimes very hit or miss. You will get the service but some girls can rush, some might not get too into it, some might not do things you want so it is important to establish clarity before the meeting. It is also really taboo to ask for pics from these working girls, they'll usually redirect you to their ad even when they actually do look like their pics, I assume is for safety / privacy reasons. Even though some of the pics might hide some stuff, I've felt that I haven't gotten catfished too bad. These chicks are also all about the money and the really good ones can be very difficult to set up a date with, sometimes other girls will have you come to their casa and they hook you up with a different girl smh. I am fluent in Spanish so they never get to play games with me but it is very frustrating when you're really horny so beware of that and tried to confirm for sure that the session will be ONLY with the chick you're talking to. Overall I want to grow away from online escorts for girls who are less transactional, more consistent and with less direct competition for their time.
Seeking: I tried seeking and I was surprised by the amount of attention I got, for any guy with decent pics its a gold mine for attracting. Going through with dates / lays is another story though. There are different types of girls on seeking, most popular are working girls in disguise for more money & higher quality men than paisa men and also spoiled girls who are trying to get as much money as possible from foreigners in USD, trips or experiences. I found that my best strategy is funnel the massive amounts of leads to WhatsApp and figure out the girls I'll go out with from there. It's a cool process but you later find out it can be long tedious work. Pros: Girls are hot, lots of variety and girls usually answer reply at high rates, you can also ask for pics. There might be some non working girls who are new to this and if you get them to like you it CAN be way worth the $100. I still fuck with a girl I met from my first trip using Seeking, she used it to meet higher status guys while she was having some issues with her husband. I don't totally condone this but it took a while to get her comfortable enough to meet and get in bed, she is very appreciative / not high maintenance at all and until this day whenever I come back in town she makes time and effort to meet up and do everything bareback. She deleted seeking but did webcam for some time and is now doing normal work.
The cons: not every chick is like this, I'll say the majority will try to maximize the amount of money and experiences they can get from you shamelessly and will be already talking to a bunch of guys looking to do the same. I went on lots of dates my previous trips and I noticed I spent so much time vetting and planning for some of these girls to take them out on a date, that ended up a bit expensive anyway and for me to end up paying 300 k for mediocre sex smh. I realized towards the end of the trip that it was better for my mental health and time efficiency to just get escorts online because at least these girls know they're there to fuck, the vetting process is way less time consuming and they're not out here asking for phones and rent a few days into meeting you. The worst thing as a guy is investing so much time, money and energy on a chick who you think is just hot and the sex ends up being mediocre and the whole time you're thinking, I should of just hit up Mia for some proper hot 200 k sex for an hour and be happy the rest of the day 😂. Some girls are glorified expensive working girls. If you have lots of money to spend is probably your best option though, you can meet some hot young spoiled girls. I have a lot of numbers and decent girls from my previous trips using seeking but I only actively repeat with the girl I mentioned earlier and one other short red haired tiny chica who probably gives one of the best heads but quotes me 300 k / HR + taxi every time. I think she is just a working girl through seeking but is a bit too transactional despite being punctual and is getting older and chubbier lately. I don't think I will use seeking for this trip because of the time consuming nature of it but have contacts for some girls that I didn't meet last time. Now I will approach it with way less time investment and energy. All the leads you get can from seeking can be overwhelming and I did not spend as much time being present in the moment my last trip using seeking, I was constantly on my phone looking for the next hot girl who might be cool LOL. P.S. : I strongly believe there is just as many girls who are hot here in Medellin and don't know how far their hotness can take them so I am mostly look for these type of girls.
Tinder: I've only met one girl from here and it was cool but it wasn't worth it. She was a "church girl" but she got me weed, she gave me head but I didn't end up sleeping with her at the end. Tinder just doesn't work for me at all and I'm heavily turned off by the horror stories I hear from there.
FaceBook game: Brand new to this, made an account a week prior to coming but having very limited success so far. From what I heard it has huge potential and I would appreciate some advice on how I can leverage this account to get more lowkey normal or semi pro girls. I have a pro camera that I use for video content back home so all my pics are decent but I still struggle to get some replies and accepted requests. I currently have 49 friends. I've looked through this thread but haven't found much on the things I can post to have some sort of engagement in my profile and not appear as a bot. I added people using the chicacheck website and added some of the good reviewed girls friends but maybe there's more I can do? If anyone wants to connect and share some contacts or advice etc direct message me here or on FaceBook where I have the same name as here + it says I'm from Tampa, FL and born in Medellin.
Street / Casas / brothels: Have only gone to one in Centro and was not very impressed at that time of day. It was also a quick stop and I had no intentions of getting with a girl. I think there is potential here to get some proper sluts for a low price which I am very in favor of but I am not willing to do this by myself. If anyone wants to adventure out, have a good time and check out some of the popular places on here together DM me, I am open to exploring more during this trip.
Day game: Only did day game once here but the quality of the girls you approach is much higher than online for obvious reasons. I mostly talk to girls doing normal jobs and have had success considering how little I've done it. I am open to doing more of this during this trip.
Overall this trip:
I find myself in a unique position where I have a father that lives and does business here so I am staying for over a month this time around and I'm able to stay at any hotel I want because I am not tied down to one place that I'm already paying for. I am a fluent Spanish speaker, I know a few of older locals through family (they're always working, no money + time) and will like to meet other mongers to have fun, introduce and meet girls. My goal this trip is to create so much value on my FB page from hanging out and going to cool places that I have inbound girls in the DM's that are comfortable enough to hang out, and then later build out a solid roster with attractive non pro and semi pro girls that I get from FB, day game etc. Using these consistent properly vetted girls I want to meet with other ambitious mongers (LOL) and see if we can host fun private parties and shit (nothing crazy), maybe create some content for some of these girls for some extended play time. I know a few places that aren't too expensive and with the right girls, can be a fucking blast! These are all ideas and I am open to sharing what I've learned during my trips and hearing criticism. I barely drink alcohol and smoke weed during the night sometimes just to sleep and fuck mostly, but I am not judgmental as long as you don't let any of that shit negatively affect yourself and others. I have hella game, can communicate well and can figure out suspicious situations / people so hit me up if you want to kick it one of these days and want to wander a little more comfortable during your stay. I am staying until the 20th of February. I can expand on some of my points with more information to whoever is curious on here and responds to this thread. I will do some more reports throughout my trips hopefully some of you guys get some value from them!
Tom Dick 69
01-23-23, 01:34
I spent about 40 days between Nov'22 & Jan'23 in Medellin. I was mostly repeating with casas in Centro, especially New Life and Zandaly. On holidays, it seems only New life is an option. On Jan9th holiday, Zandaly, Amigas sexy, Dulce, Aifle are all closed.
Prices as of Jan'23: Aifle 55/30 90/60. Zandaly 85/60. New life 60/30 +20 k for each additional 15 min.
You are right. He is not really wrong if he had qualified with the word some popular. They were finding girls in the wrong placeThat's a very good point. A girl that's been in this game a while (and become well-known among the gringo crowd on FB or SA) might feel emboldened to hold out for a higher rate. I don't want that girl. The newer girls are generally a better experience.
I'm also really into nonpros and semipros as I've written about and have previously written about some of those experiences. I primarily use Facebook but have also started to use Instagram and tinder a bit. I've written about some of my methods for finding nonpros and semipros in previous posts on Facebook. I don't bother with paid services like Seeking or Colombian Cupid as Facebook has generally been a good source of girls for me. For safety my advise is always to chat as extensively with girls as possible and ask for social media (if you meet them on tinder) as well as about jobs, studying, barrio etc.
Now, my primary goal (this is my 5th trip) has been to develop a stable core of girls I can see in the future. I've developed what I consider deep connections with four or five girls in the past but its been hard to keep things up in the past due to emotional issues (primarily the fact I'm married and in an open relationship) or money issues as I'm not especially interested in sending money to girls when I'm not there. These past girls are all nonpros or at least did not charge me money upfront for sex. Of course, the lines here are quite blurred. I had issues this trip, for example, with a girl I'd seen in July who I'd had a great time with. She went to Las Piscinas with my in July and we had some crazy sex together. This time, she had just come home from a vacation and flaked on me a couple times. The timing may have been bad, but the flaking wasn't cool in my book. This girl is webcam, onlyfans and dates guys as a semipro but she'd been clear with me in the past that we were true friends and she didn't want any money from me. I was also minorly in love with a webcam girl I met in last January who had feelings for me as well but we ended up clashing and fighting due to those emotional issues. I have started rethinking issues surrounding money and may send small amounts of money randomly, for birthdays or special occasions. It seems like a good way of showing affection and fitting the local culture. Ultimately I think investing a little money could be worth it if I can maintain the sorts of connections I want. There are also some great semipros out there and I may focus more on some of them.
I set up concrete dates with eight girls, went out with six girls, and ended up sleeping with three of them. I found the girls on Facebook and one from tinder using criteria for semi to nonpros I've previously written about. I enjoyed the dates generally as I picked out restaurants I would have liked to eat at anyway and places I wanted to visit. I'd generally offer up a potential second part to the date if I enjoyed the girls company. On all of the occasions, I felt there was good chemistry I had no trouble inviting a girl back to my place after that first date.
Now in terms of dating there are a few things to watch out for. 1) There are a number of flaky girls. You will probably have some ditch plans with you. There were a few girls I wanted to see that I never managed to make concrete plans with and a couple who made plans with me and bailed on those plans due to weather, being scared or other issues.
2) There are girls that are interested but scared of seeing you. I did have lunch at Mayorca mall with an 18 year I'd been chatting with who worked there to reassure her. She still chickened out of a second date despite being affectionate when I saw her. I've had similar issues in the past. I'd also say past good dates don't guarantee you'll see a girl in the future. I had a great date with a girl I met in July who was begging me to come to my apartment that last trip. Either she was genuinely busy or significantly cooled to me this time. I'd write off any girls that are unsure or seem like they'd chicken out due to the wealth of options out there.
3) there is a class of girl that is looking to make gringo friends to take her out on your dime. I'm agnostic about this. I don't mind making platonic friends if the girl is genuinely cool. For example, I went out with a strata 5 law student this trip who speaks English fluently and told me a lot of interesting things about Medellin. She was so interested I'd be happy to take her out again as I know I'd learn more about the city, culture and possibly go places I didn't know about with her. These girls can also be useful local connections as well. I've known another girl since July who has taken me to some cool spots and helped me set up a tooth cleaning and find different things in the city. However, I'm not interested in making loads of those sorts of friendships. I also went out with another girl like that (costena) I met on tinder for coffee who was at least a cheap date. She was nice enough but no clear chemistry. I played up the body language game touching her arm, shoulders, brushing her hair etc and even asked her about things but didn't get a great response from her. But conversation and company for 10 am coffee weren't bad for the price of taxis and a cup of coffee.
4) Finally there are some semipros who will just assume you know that they want money without asking for it. This is not a bad thing necessarily unless you are expressly avoiding paid sex. These tend to be younger and poorer girls. You should easily be able to figure this out, though, when you talk to them either in person or over chat. If you are trying to avoid paid sex, I'd talk about how you prefer "sexo con atracion mutuo" vs. "sexo pagado" and see what their reactions are. I did have a funny issue this trip with a girl I met where I forgot to have that conversation. She was 18 years old and tiny (like 4 feet tall) but cute and she was from a very poor / troubled background in Manrique. I took her out to eat (paid taxis etc) and at the end of the meal she asked me if I wanted to take her to my place. She was cute enough so I thought why not though I didn't think hard about how much money I had on me. Anyway, she was very affectionate with me the whole time and we had great sex. Everything was very GFE. Lots of making out, groping in the shower, and a couple of rounds of sex in different positions. She was more the romantic / affectionate than wild type. At the end of the date after we were getting the taxi at the door she asked if I was going to give her anything. I had 100 k in my wallet, which I gave her. Afterward, I got messages about how she wasn't a "puta barrata" and such, which was kind of funny (I guess she thought of herself as a puta carra). Luckily no issues, though. But I could have avoided issues if I'd been more careful talking about sex beforehand. I also clearly told her that she should tell gringos she was looking for money for sex, especially if they took her out to eat vs. Asking her to come to their apartments. I think we ended on ok terms and maybe she learned a valuable lesson. It's funny because she told me the only person she'd ever have unpaid sex with would be a boyfriend. I think this is a widespread attitude, especially among poorer and younger girls. I do think we had some genuine chemistry, or she was an amazing actress, as the sex was good and naturally flowing.
5) There are some genuinely sweet girls out there who are not interesada (gold diggers) at all. I went out with a girl I'd talked to on Facebook who was super sweet with me and very cool about money issues, especially for a Colombian. She paid for her own taxi to the date at a Peruvian restaurant in Laureles. She paid for our metro fares around the city as we went up to the Parque Arvi line afterward. Those sort of little gestures are a huge positive sign for me that I'm not dealing with an interesada. There was also lots of hand-holding and hugging from the beginning of our date and she made sweet gestures like giving me an earbud to listen to music and offering me use of her phone's hotspot when I was having internet issues. After going up the cable car and back, I offered for her to hang out at my place and had sex with her. She was pretty kinky / wild. She knew how to deepthroat and did CIM with swallow and told me about a lot of crazy sexual things she tried in the past. Her pictures were better looking than in person (which is another issue you commonly run into). But I think her sweetness and energy more than made up for that. She didn't want and I didn't offer any money to her. Her family owned a big pizza spot in Manrique and she was relatively well off. I only ended up being able to see her once. I think she was a bit off put by the fact I was married as well (something I thought I'd told her in chat but that seems to have only come out after we had sex).
6) The last girl I met was the best girl I met on this trip and someone I'd keep in touch with. She ended up being that "the me lo que quieres" type which we talked about quite explicitly and at length as I got to know her better. However, I'm more than happy to give this girl a little money because she ended up being one of the freakiest women I've met in my life (not just Colombia) and we had great energy and chemistry together. She is a light-skinned morena with straight her, a decent but not incredible face but a smoking body. I wouldn't have taken her for a freak as her pictures on her Facebook are quite conservative. I'd chatted with her since July and she has a boyfriend, which weirded me out a bit as I was worried I might have some Colombian guy after me if I saw her. However, it seems she is in some sort of open relationship and her boyfriend is ok with her fucking other guys, which I realize is also not so uncommon, especially in the pro-to-semipro realm. Anyway, I decided to have a beer on la 70 with her when I had a free moment because we'd been chatting so long and she'd been saying she wanted to see me. But I had no expectations of actually fucking her. We talked about a lot of things and our conversation turned to things like our craziest sexual experiences. I told her about how I enjoyed the swinger club here in Medellin and it became clear she'd never gone but was interested in the experience. She also made it clear to me that she was very open-minded sexually and liked having sex, so I thought why not and took her back to my apartment (I actually flaked on another girl I was planning to see). Anyway, after a few drinks and more talking we got to sex. I found out quickly she was into being dominated and degraded. She asked me to choke her and spit on her face while we were having sex and got off on me cumming on her face and begging for my leche. I gave her 200 k and paid for her taxis, which she was happy with.
On my last night in Medellin, I took her out again to tres cordilleras brewery where there was a cover band playing rock when we came, and afterwards took her to La Piscina. I've been to La Piscina once before with another open-minded girl and had a lot of fun (to the point where I've recommended it as one of my favorite spots in the city). This girl took to the swingers club like a duck to water. She was dancing on me naked in no time, sucking me off in front of everyone, and fucking in the jacuzzi like a natural. She also was intrigued by the BDSM room and asked for me to fuck her in the stockade they had there (which was cool in theory but kind of hard in practice given our body types / sizes). We also had sex in the smoking room next to my buddy and his girl. The craziest part, though is when we found a quiet place for me to cum (as fucking in front of people makes it harder for me to cum). She was masturbating as I jerked off on her face and squirted all over my leg as I came. We were also approached by a girl who was looking to swap or I think get at me. I let my girl deal with her, as I think that's the gentlemanly thing to do given the situation. They danced on each other a bit but it was my girl's judgment that she wasn't hot enough to do anything with. Piscinas had about 30 or 40 couples there when we were there and there were plenty of girls stripping, a couple of couples that fucked on stage, and a couple of girls that fucked each other on stage. It remains one of my favorite places to go, with a freaky girl of course. My buddy's girl was less comfortable with the environment and he didn't have nearly as good of a time as the two of us. I gave this girl another 200 k after we had gone out and had been fucking in Las Piscinas for four hours straight. The lines here are way blurrier around money than in other spots. I felt like we had really great chemistry and mutual attraction making the sex and companionship as good or better than any nonpro I've been with (she squirted on me after all jajaja). So I'd be more than happy to give her a bit of money when we see each other next time I'm in Medellin.
Overall, I'm starting to think that good semipros may be a better long-term way of developing a stable of girls than nonpros, though I'm still happy to fuck nonpros. I'd suggest that you should focus on more middle and upper-class types if you want true nonpros. Also clearly discuss sex and money issues in person on your date or in chats. Most girls are open and / or fine with those sorts of discussions about what they expect (I. E. Money for sex). You can pretty much get everything you'd get sexually with a nonpro from a semipro as well. The only thing that may be lacking is the rush that comes when deep feelings are present. Nonpros I've met in the past, especially the poorer ones tend to be waiting for you to show affection by sending a little money or helping them out financially in a jam. So the differences are more nuanced than one might think.Damn, knowing Spanish will definitely elevates one trip to Colombia it seems.
I assume that all the girls at La Piscina come with their partners and going Solo they wouldn't let you in?
Mr Enternational
01-23-23, 02:58
Damn, knowing Spanish will definitely elevates one trip to Colombia it seems.
I assume that all the girls at La Piscina come with their partners and going Solo they wouldn't let you in?You do not have to quote the entire post to say a couple of words. You can delete the part of the post that is not relevant to what you are responding to.
Could you share info on what company you use. I am sort of Familiar with the e sim I use it as my main sim back home and was able to get a physical sim to use simultaneously while in Thailand but I didn't know you could get an esim in a foreign country as well?I use google fi on my secondary (burner) phone. I set up the line usually a week before I leave the states. I get the unlimited package with unlimited international data. I set it up using esim. It's one less thing I got to worry about. And like I mention. IPhone 10 and above allows you to use dual phone lines. For the ones that travels with a single phone.
They have gangbang nights on Tuesdays and Thursdays for single guys. They hire prepagos. I'm not sure that's my cup of tea, though. I'm a little too freaked out about diseases considering there are two to five prepagos servicing a bunch of random guys. Otherwise you want to bring a date to La Piscina. With some searching, you can find a casa, strip club, or online girl that may be interested. My buddy paid a girl he liked from Zandaly 450 k to go with him and had a good time the first time he went. He took a Facebook girl / escort the second time for 200 k but had a worse time as she wasn't into it. You can also get lucky and stumble on freakier girls, as has been my case. The first time I went it was because my amiga told me going to a swinger's club was her fantasy.
Damn, knowing Spanish will definitely elevates one trip to Colombia it seems.
I assume that all the girls at La Piscina come with their partners and going Solo they wouldn't let you in?
Ellas Erotic is near the America's church. I don't remember where Energy Spa is in relation. I'm not a huge fan of Energy based on the one time I went. I actually didn't ask about the extras. You can go to their website, WhatsApp them and I'm sure they'll tell you. My guess might be 60-80 k but that's a guess. They don't say they do a lineup or accept walk-ins and want you to choose a girl off the website. I'd say pictures are fairly accurate based on the two I saw.
Very nice report, Thanks a lot for sharing the details.
I would love to expand my knowledge of casa in laureles. Sometimes going to centro seems like a bad option. Is Ellas Erotic close to Energy Spa? Are they usually not inclined to show you the line up And how much extra you had to pay for kissing, BBBJ etc?
First of all, everything you do is unique and special in comparison to everyone else on this site so nothing applies to you so stop defending yourself. Everyone knows just how special you are. (Just wait for it guys. He will write pages on my comment to correct me. He simply can not help himself.).Thank you.
Precautions for pickpocketing applies in every country you go to in all locations day or night. The difference is when a gun is shown or they beat you up for your stuff. You simply should not go walking alone or drunk in the middle of the night in at least 60% of every city in Colombia. But yet you can do just that in Thailand or the Philippines (only countries I know and can compare) with no problems.Pickpockets usually don't pull a gun or knife, or beat their victims up.
You shouldn't go walking alone and drunk anywhere. If you're unable to control your drinking stay home, or hire a babysitter.
Most countries you only have to worry about taking out your phone when walking along a street where a motorcycle can come up behind you and snatch it. In Colombia a group of guys will walk right up to you in broad daylight and attack you for it in the front of 50+ people. The people will only watch and will not help you. Seen that many times.How many times? I've never seen it, but I'm sure it could happen. Seems unlikely if you keep your phone securely tucked away in your front pocket.
Colombia is flat out a different animal in comparison to most other monger locations for two main reasons in my eyes. First, there are very few of us to support the others and no "foreigner" areas where huge numbers of foreigners can be found so you are basically on your own. Second, is the huge amount of Venies that need money to survive and to send back home.Every different country is a different country. See if you can guess why. Every country has different cultural norms, different slang and different things to watch out for. If you're going to Colombia and expecting Thailand then Jajaja or 555 on you.
Also, prostitutes steal from customers in every country so no news there. But I do not think using scopolamine to rob customers is used in such abundance elsewhere. Using scopolamine has killed several foreigners each and every year in Colombia. Is this common anywhere else? Comments any one because I am curious myself.Scopolamine is just one of many drugs used to incapacitate people. I know a 50 year old small town school teacher (and she hasn't aged well) who was drugged in a small town bar by a guy hoping to rape her. It can happen anywhere. However, in Medellin, if you're aware of the risks and take simple precautions, the risk is almost zero.
BTW My experiences are my experiences. I make no claims about them, except that they are accurate to the best of my ability. For example, I will never claim to have seen something many times if I've only seen it once or heard about it from another source.
Or even hardly any places. My girlfriend left her ID at the bus station in Valledupar when she went to Medellin to look for a job. I went to visit and stayed at the San Peter. They would not let her in with that picture bullshit. I cursed her out and asked her how she even thought that could be a thing. She claimed the people thought she was a hooker. I said no because a friend of mine came over once and I wanted to show him the place but they would not let him in either because he did not have ID with him.
She did not last long in Medellin. She was staying up high in the hood with her cousin who is a nurse. She said she could not take living in those barrio conditions. When we went to her cousin's place it felt like the taxi was about to pop a wheelie with those steep inclines.
After we got there she wanted to go smoke some weed. We went crossing a river, past a play ground, and back into some woods and she bought a blunt from some guy there. She gave him a 20 and he was supposed to bring her some chage back. He never came back. I was like he ain't going nowhere; you can get it from him next time. It was pitch black dark but the view was amazing.
We walked back to the apartment and I had the munchies like a mf. I saw a store with an ice cream cooler in the distance. I said I am going to be mad as hell if that shit is a mirage or if it is empty when we get there. It was real though and I bought the three of us ice cream..I feel for your Uber driver. I ended up in one of those areas and had to back down 3 blocks with no room on either side and pedestrians everywhere. Google maps works better with the building name than with the address when you get up in the hills.
LoveItHere69
01-23-23, 06:31
Although 1 guy did try to pick my pocket (and failed), I never felt threatened or nervous. During much of the time I was with my girlfriend and her family. We were our all hours of the day and night. Nobody was hiding, or looking over their shoulder. Just relaxed good times.
Of course everyone takes normal precautions. When my girlfriend had to go to El Centro she messaged me saying she didn't want to take her phone out while she was there. That's just common sense.
I kept taking my phone out to take some nice pictures that I imagined. Her cousin kept telling me to keep my phone in my pocket before I get robbed. I said what the fuck are we doing standing out here eating ice cream if it is so damn dangerous. She claimed we would not get rob if they could not visibly see anything to rob us for.Just relaxed good times huh? But someone tried to steal from you. Your girl told you she was basically nervous to take her phone out in Centro. Mr. E's girl tells him to put his phone in his pocket or he would get robbed way up in the hills. If you wear trendy clothes and are alone you need to be worried. It is true and sad but you need to dress generic and not flashy and keep your phone hidden and stay in groups at night. This is not normal in many other mongering spots. You have to be alert at all times. You can not "Just Relax" as you say.
At night you should not walk home long distances but always take a taxi. This advice has been repeated a thousand times on this site for a reason. You have to be a little bit paranoid.
Nice post. Can you elaborate on what makes Germany superior to the others if you got the cash? Any comparisons between Colombia and Thailand. Never been to Asia or Europe, but it's on my radar.Germany is superior only if you like European girls, specifically Eastern Europeans. I happen to like that quality so I visit Germany every year. Google German FKKs for more info.
I happen to like both Colombia and Thailand as well. But I feel much safer in Thailand and their food is excellent.
Elvis 2008
01-23-23, 08:04
I'd suggest that you should focus on more middle and upper-class types if you want true nonprosThis is a good post. Yeah, you want to focus any long term efforts on the women who are white collar or studying to be. Otherwise, you should keep things as P4P. You can tell how much someone really likes you by how quickly they head for the door after they get their money.
Nonpros I've met in the past, especially the poorer ones tend to be waiting for you to show affection by sending a little money or helping them out financially in a jam. So the differences are more nuanced than one might think.Yeah, I have done that and thought about it. For the most part, my giving gifts was like advertising to the women I underpaid them. I know you feel good doing it but more often than not you will regret it.
You might want to look at Bogota. Women there are a little less pretty, but I found the women there to be ambitious, friendlier, and all in all, better long term prospects. Yeah, the city is not as livable is Medellin, but you also have a lot more to choose from.
But yeah, you have it figured out. The best and most satisfying part of mongering is building up a harem of sugar babies and always looking to make it better.
I'm also really into nonpros and semipros as I've written about and have previously written about some of those experiences. I primarily use Facebook but have also started to use Instagram and tinder a bit. I've written about some of my methods for finding nonpros and semipros in previous posts on Facebook. I don't bother with paid services like Seeking or Colombian Cupid as Facebook has generally been a good source of girls for me. For safety my advise is always to chat as extensively with girls as possible and ask for social media (if you meet them on tinder) as well as about jobs, studying, barrio etc.
Now, my primary goal (this is my 5th trip) has been to develop a stable core of girls I can see in the future. I've developed what I consider deep connections with four or five girls in the past but its been hard to keep things up in the past due to emotional issues (primarily the fact I'm married and in an open relationship) or money issues as I'm not especially interested in sending money to girls when I'm not there. These past girls are all nonpros or at least did not charge me money upfront for sex. Of course, the lines here are quite blurred.That is a very detailed and informative report I applaud your success. Normally I'd break it up and talk about each section, but I won't be awake that long. You'll figure it out.
Unless you want to get into a regular routine of sending money, I suggest sending gifts. I know a girl whose birthday is the day before mine. I'll buy some lingerie and maybe a vibrator from one of the Medellin sex shops and have it all delivered. Then she can use her presents to make my present.
The swinger scene is a blast with the right girl. Now I'm thinking about hitting a club in Bogota.
Nothing wrong with just making friends with girls. You invite them out and invite their friends as well. You might get lucky.
A contrasena issued by the government can be used as identification at the discretion of the hotel. San Peter has strict rules for visitors I know as I used to stay there. If a girl is known at the hotel and has her cedula on file, then it is up to the discretion of the hotel. I know because one of my girls lost her cedula and she was granted access to the hotel I am staying. My hotel is a 4 star hotel.
The Contrasena will NOT be accepted in lieu of a Cedula in ALL places. Firsthand knowledge: San Peter will not allow chica with contrasena to enter the building..
Germany is superior only if you like European girls, specifically Eastern Europeans. ...That is true, but I think he is comparing brothels or casas specifically.
You do not have to quote the entire post to say a couple of words....I just sucked it up. It only wasted about 10 minutes of my life scrolling. LOL.
Nil Admirari
01-23-23, 16:26
A contrasena issued by the government can be used as identification at the discretion of the hotel. San Peter has strict rules for visitors I know as I used to stay there. If a girl is known at the hotel and has her cedula on file, then it is up to the discretion of the hotel. I know because one of my girls lost her cedula and she was granted access to the hotel I am staying. My hotel is a 4 star hotel..
The following perhaps only of interest to denizens of the fabled San Peter.
Back in 2022, a chica, whom I had been seeing for 2 or 3 years on a regular basis in my San Peter apartment, lost her cedula. At first reception there wouldn't accept her temporary ID. However, going back through my What's App messages with my amiga, I compiled a chronological list of dates for her prior visits to the San Peter. Based on this (and with the managers OK) the ladies in reception were able to confirm in their log book that she had been admitted to the building many times in the past, and allowed her to visit with me without her original cedula. Peace in the valley and joy in the cama.
I just sucked it up. It only wasted about 10 minutes of my life scrolling. LOL.Yes, well I would like that 10 minutes of my life back. Mr. E is right. Posting etiquette people please! Don't quote a massive post just to reply with relatively few words in response.
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How many times? I've never seen it, but I'm sure it could happen. Seems unlikely if you keep your phone securely tucked away in your front pocket.....It happened to me. I was surrounded by 3 guys in a crowded area and one guy who spoke English just forced his hand into my front pocket.
Walking alone, especially long distance, is not safe whether you are drunk or not, day or night. It's a probability. It could happen the first day and it could happen the 100th day. One will change one's mind once that has happened. I agree with you about your own experience. That is my experience as well until it happened to me which changed my experience, and my perspective.
SankarShetty
01-23-23, 17:14
Damn, knowing Spanish will definitely elevates one trip to Colombia it seems.
I assume that all the girls at La Piscina come with their partners and going Solo they wouldn't let you in?Yes. Absolutely, fluent language and some money are far better than shitty rich but no hablas espanol.
There is one or 2 weekday nights that solos are allowed but yes, its the couple's entry. It takes a certain type of girl to have a great time there and most chicas catering to gringos don't fit well in to that scene.
Just relaxed good times huh? But someone tried to steal from you. Your girl told you she was basically nervous to take her phone out in Centro. Mr. E's girl tells him to put his phone in his pocket or he would get robbed way up in the hills. If you wear trendy clothes and are alone you need to be worried. It is true and sad but you need to dress generic and not flashy and keep your phone hidden and stay in groups at night. This is not normal in many other mongering spots. You have to be alert at all times. You can not "Just Relax" as you say.
At night you should not walk home long distances but always take a taxi. This advice has been repeated a thousand times on this site for a reason. You have to be a little bit paranoid.I think there is general agreement that Medellin is less safe than many other mongering cities such as Pattaya. There are enough stories about robberies and druggings to make the point. For me, I am a seasoned traveler so it just means being on alert and being careful. If this is not what you want to do on vacation, you should not visit Medellin. I have many friends who are not interested in visiting Medellin because they do not want to worry so much about being a victim of crime and there are safer alternatives. Some feel the same way about Brazil. Great mongering country but places like Rio have a danger of high crime.
I continue to visit Medellin but I try to be more careful and aware of my surroundings when I visit.
This is an old report from at least 6 months ago. I went to the club twice. One night, it was overrun by a bachelor party, so it was not a good night to be shopping for a woman. I settled for a not-so-good-looking one for 300 k pesos. Ugh. Additionally, there was a cover charge to get in -- I think something like $10 USD, but I don't remember for certain. Even though there was a cover charge, a staff member told me that I can either buy a drink or get out. I was walking around after my first encounter, shopping for a better one when the staff member told me this. I realized that this wasn't the best environment due to the bachelor party, so I decided to leave rather than buy a drink LOL.
Night #2 was much better. Way more women than men. I talked to several of the best looking ones. One very popular girl quoted 500 k, but most girls, even the good looking ones quoted 300 k. I went up with a Venezuelan beauty who had a nice set of fake tits. The service wasn't great, and her coochie was smelly. I used a condom for both Oral and FS but still had to go on antibioitics when I got home. I'm not 100% sure I got it from her (especially considering I didn't use a condom for Oral from other providers), but I still think I got it from her LOL.
Another thing about this club. Both nights, I had to wait for a room to be available once I picked my girl. They need more rooms I guess. It's kind of nice because you don't have to pay more, but you can still grope your girl while you wait for your room.
Another reports from a long time ago. At least 6+ months ago. I walked to Gusto's from my apartment, and immediately in the area surrounding Gusto's, there are lots of working women. A lot of them a pretty hot too. I paid the cover to get into Gusto's (maybe it was $20? Maybe a lot less than that? I don't really remember). When I got inside, it was CROWDED. Gusto's isn't really like a strip club the way La Isla is. It's more like a traditional night club, except all the women inside are hookers, and all the men are patrons. It was body to body. The girls in this club were more what you think of when you think Colombiana, for better or for worse. Big, curvy, plastic, done up with hot makeup etc. It wasn't my cup of tea. I thought the girls at La Isla were hotter, but that's kind of like comparing apples and oranges. Go to La Isla if you want a strip club experience. Gusto's if you want a night club experience. Gusto's was a little overwhelming for me. I didn't ask any prices from any girls. I wasn't in a girl friendly hotel anyway, so I didn't have a way to seal the deal with a girl from Gusto's had I wanted to.
They have 2 locations La America and Barrio LOS Colores. www.ellaserotic.co.
1 hour $120,000.
1/2 hour $80,000.
Oral natural $40,000.
One of the nicer casa's around.
Ellas Erotic is near the America's church. I don't remember where Energy Spa is in relation. I'm not a huge fan of Energy based on the one time I went. I actually didn't ask about the extras. You can go to their website, WhatsApp them and I'm sure they'll tell you. My guess might be 60-80 k but that's a guess. They don't say they do a lineup or accept walk-ins and want you to choose a girl off the website. I'd say pictures are fairly accurate based on the two I saw.
FlappyGilmore0
01-24-23, 01:51
I plan on giving this place a shot this week after hearing so much about it.
Note about Poblado Clubs like Gustos. From my experience They have older chicas there but lighting is so dark you might not notice. Lleres park seems to attract the younger crowd and you can meet some good candidates there is you go early. It's a little awkward being that it's a bit empty before 10:30 but it also gives you time to select then get out before the crowds.
They have 2 locations La America and Barrio LOS Colores. www.ellaserotic.co.
1 hour $120,000.
1/2 hour $80,000.
Oral natural $40,000.
One of the nicer casa's around.
I think there is general agreement that Medellin is less safe than many other mongering cities such as Pattaya. There are enough stories about robberies and druggings to make the point. For me, I am a seasoned traveler so it just means being on alert and being careful. If this is not what you want to do on vacation, you should not visit Medellin. I have many friends who are not interested in visiting Medellin because they do not want to worry so much about being a victim of crime and there are safer alternatives. Some feel the same way about Brazil. Great mongering country but places like Rio have a danger of high crime.
I continue to visit Medellin but I try to be more careful and aware of my surroundings when I visit.Both Brasil and Colombia have well-earned reputations for being dangerous. They're also my two favorite countries for this hobby. Thailand is great but I just don't feel like traveling for a day to get there. Germany is great but it's cold when I want to go somewhere warm.
Well it was my 2nd time, but first in the situation where I was there for these purposes. Sorry for any of the bad grammar in my post, I just wrote it off the top of my head.
After reading the board and asking a few noob questions, I thought it made by far the most sense to stay in the Mansion. I was traveling solo and I wanted to be somewhere safe and convenient that was catering to this hobby we all share. After staying at the Mansion, first let me say I absolutely loved it, but in hindsight it's probably less secure than I thought. I mean let's be honest, it's essentially one gate to get in, with people coming and going all day and night. Guys with guns could jack everyone's shit. Also the room doors were like the locks in doors inside an American house, no deadbolts, etc. There was a safe in your room and it serves it's purpose, but the first night I wasn't super comfortable falling asleep from a safety perspective. Despite that, I loved it and would absolutely recommend and go back, the convenience factor and the fact they check IDs and take info from the girls is a huge plus. Many of things I read here are true. The regulars there are super awesome dudes, willing to share details and advice on everything, including which girls are good and which ones suck.
So I arrived on a Thursday and stayed until Sunday. It was a sprint, definitely not a marathon. Being in my late 40's my desire to go multiple times per day for multiple days is dwindling, so it actually got a little tough and I didn't do as good as I wanted to but part of that was my fault.
The first day I got to the Mansion around 3:30-4 and was hoping to walk in and bang something from by the pool but the selection was just ok to me. 5's and 6's at best and I hadn't gotten to know anyone yet. So I just grabbed a few beers and chatted with everyone which was fine, then walked down to exchange money in oveido and get some dinner. When I came back there were a few people trickling into the hotel bar and 2 dudes hanging out front of the Mansion. Part of staying at the Mansion for me was the hope of finding someone around my age and interest to go out hunting with, as I didn't really want to be on the streets alone at night. So as it turns out, I made 2 really good friends on top of enjoying the weekend. I digress those guys went to grab some food and we made plans to go out later. I went into the bar, chatting with one girl, semi-unfriendly so I let her move on, she quoted 300 k for everything covered. Another girl a decent curvy dyed blonde 6 who's name escapes me (which is crazy because I ended up with her ass 3 times, smh) came in and we hit it off right away. She quoted me 300 k, but I told her I was only willing to pay 250 and I wanted the head natural and off we went. We got all the way to the sex part and she told me she didn't have a condom. So noob advice, in Colombia you better have condoms on you. They don't have them. So needless to say I had to finish with the blow job. Not ideal. This was around 8 pm, so immediately I kicked her out of my room, freshened up and met my 2 friends for a trip to parque lleras. The streets down in that area were incredible talent wise, but for personal reason I did not want to go into the club Lleras Park and they did so I ubered back to the Mansion after 2 hours of walking around and like an idiot hooked up with the same chick but this time got condoms from the front desk, another 250 k. For the people looking for advice, you will not feel nervous or unsafe in this area, even if you are alone and / or drunk. I promise. There's tons of cops and tons of Americans. I smoked weed on the streets and was at minimum a little tipsy every night. I never pulled money out, didn't wear my watch but was never fearful of my phone being taken.
Ok onto Day 2, Friday, by 10:30 am I was ready to go. My first day I was with the same chick twice, so I was definitely ready to try a different experience. I got an uber up to New Life. For some reason uber took me like a block over, but after a few pictures and pulling it up on google the driver got me to the right place. I actually chatted with 2 dudes inside after my session for awhile, both great guys and willing to share some advice and experiences. Again all the American dudes down there were super friendly and helpful. So I picked a Vennie (didn't know when I initially did, but she told me that's where she was from). A nice light skinned thicker girl with an incredible ass and smile, her name was Koral, she was probably a 7 in my book. Her titties seemed bigger in her lingerie than they actually were but she was super friendly and did the head au natural for an extra 50 k. My total bill there was 116 k which included a beer. She rode me and then let me finish in doggy, afterwards gave me her number and I'm sure I could have banged her for 100 or less outside of New Life. I'd definitely recommend her.
Later that day I hooked up with my friends and we went to Luna Lunera around 3-4 pm. We were the only guys there and paid a small cover to get in. I think 20 k each. There were 8 girls there. 7 of them were 7's or better. Surprisingly I took probably the youngest most slender one (I generally like the thicker ones more), but this one, Valentina had a fat ass and beautiful face probably an 8 on my scale and also probably the hottest chick I fucked there. She danced around and seemed like she was having fun. I felt like we negotiated a price but in the end I don't think it matter, they charged whatever they wanted. So the bill was 330 k for the room and the girl and supposedly my drink and her drink. I tipped 50 k to get the head au natural. She was incredible, we started off showering together and she let me play with her pussy some. She was wet and when we dried off and got on the bed she went right to sucking, swung her leg over my face, her pussy tasted amazing. She rode me but was trying to go way too fast and control everything so I flipped her over and smashed her doggy until I finished. She was sweet and was definitely the best up to this point in my trip. I didn't ask for her number and she didn't offer but I was here for a sprint not a marathon.
We got back to the Mansion and I took a nap, got up at 8, went to dinner and got back to the Mansion at 10. Decided to just chill there for the night. Fucking so sadly, I ended up with the first chick a third time. I'm so fucking stupid for that. I should have just picked a new one but I felt I had some mileage built up with her, but it was a waste of 250 k more, actually she basically demanded 300 k, so I gave it to her just to get her out of there. So upset at myself for settling, it was my biggest regret of the trip.
Day 3 So I've nutted 5 times in a 36 hour period and I was damn sure not going back to the original chick any more times, I was determined to make my last full day and last night a good one. We planned on going to Loutron in the early afternoon then watching the KC-Jax game at a bar in Poblado. So we went to Loutron and it was AWFUL!! Like 6-7 girls about 25-30 dudes. Most of the chicks were like 7's but fake (fake no matter how hot is a no go for me. I hate fake tits, personal preference). I can see the potential of this place, but all things considered I would have rather gone to New Life. There's something about pristine and super hot that actually turns me off. Like this place was too upscale for me, back in the states I prefer hood, like super hood strip clubs, I hate the high end places. So anyway we go back to the Mansion, cost me 110 k at Loutron for 2 drinks and viewing the chicks. Bum deal, but I actually didn't regret the experience. My buddies went downtown but I didn't want to miss the game so I ubered to the Mansion and literally grabbed the first girl I see, for 250 k. She's an average paisa. Average face, nice tits, average ass and body. Nothing special, can't even give you her name. Her performance was decent, 5 on looks, 7 on performance. Watched the game, got dinner and then around 11 pm decided fuck it I was going to go in Park Lleras as I know that's where the finest ass is. Just my opinion but in my 2 trips, the hottest chicks are in there. Grabbed a drink and was talking to and flirting with super hot chicks. A nice chocalate honey about 7. 5 with a great body is really throwing herself at me and she's got some cute friends. I know it goes against some precautions but at this point I know the mansion is overall pretty safe, so she ask me if I'm interested in her best friend joining us, I'm all about it. We negotiate, 500 k I think, to be honest I was pretty gone, might have been 600. We went back to the mansion they checked their IDs etc etc, and we go upstairs. Holy shit, they sucked and fucked me sooo good, one of their names is Jennifer. OMG These chicks were 7. 5-8's and their performance was a fucking 10. Like highly recommend these 2 beautiful black Colombians. They sent me pictures and videos and sadly I left the next day, but I absolutely would have done another 3 some with them. By the time I was done with them at like 2 am, I slept like a baby until 11 am. Well actually that's a lie, I went to the bar and found some hippie chick that smoked me out the night before and I asked if she had weed which she did. So I smoked with her, she was a tiny cute little thing, not my type but while smoking she starts making out with me and grabbing my dick. Granted I just had a 3 some but I would have banged her. Then we got done smoking and the bar is closing so we walk outside and she starts chatting with some other dude, so I just went to sleep. Funny I think she was high so she maybe forgot that she was just making out with me. My plan was to get one last round before I left at 12:30-12:45 but I just didn't have time and I was decently hung over, so I said my goodbyes to everyone and left.
I never felt unsafe. I also never did anything stupid, like leave an open drink around any of these chicks. I never flaunted money and I didn't wear expensive jewelry. The mansion is super ideal because it's set up for this and if you are going for your first time this place is a no-brainer. There's zero chance you will regret staying here. I only had 1 regret the whole trip and that was banging the same semi-average chick 3 times. Out of the 7 times I had sex on the trip 3 of them were with her and she was just ok. Ok I also regret somewhat not going in Llleras Park nightclub my first night too.
My best advice is don't over think it. Be smart and be you. Some people may same I'm stupid for drinking and partying, but that's me. So I can still be aware and alert because I'm used to partying. But if you don't party much then yea you are probably a lot bigger target if you go down there and get hammered.
The end. I hope this helps some people.
.....How many times? I've never seen it, but I'm sure it could happen. Seems unlikely if you keep your phone securely tucked away in your front pocket.......Yep, once I was walking through Centro with my phone in my hand and a guy tried to grab it from me, on a busy street. I held onto it, he was with another guy, no knives or gun were produced so I was able to keep my phone.
Yep, once I was walking through Centro with my phone in my hand and a guy tried to grab it from me, on a busy street. I held onto it, he was with another guy, no knives or gun were produced so I was able to keep my phone.Absolutely! If you're walking with phone in hand, there's a high risk someone will try to grab it and run away. If you're doing it on a deserted street, add the risk of someone pulling a knife or gun. If you're walking around and are distracted, 3 guys might move in, hold you and empty your pockets, like happened to Nounce and almost happened to me several years ago.
However, I have trouble believing that large groups of men attack and rob single individuals on crowded streets so often that anyone has seen such attacks "many times."
Every city is dangerous and Medellin is no exception. If you're walking around El Centro thinking it's just like Claxton, Georgia (population 2746, claims to be fruitcake capital of the world) you might discover it isn't. I don't know if they even have fruitcake in Medellin.
If you feel Medellin is too dangerous for you, don't go. You don't need to tell ISG that you're not going because it's too dangerous. There's a snowstorm coming and today the grocery stores will be packed with frantic people buying bread, milk and toilet paper. It's too crazy for me to go, but I'm not calling Kroger and making a store announcement.
If you would rather be engaging in international relations of the horizontal variety, than hide under your bed, then learn the risks. More importantly, learn how to manage the risks.
World Travel 69
01-24-23, 18:32
Calle 44 #90 A 49, La America. 12 Chicas. Prices: 80 k 30 min. , 120 k Hour, Oral natural 40 k. Hours: _ Tel: 323 364 5259, 313 669-1769. https://ellaserotic.com/ https://elfollador.com/ellas-erotic-en-medellin-3233645259/ https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/luna-la-paisa-mas-hermosa-cara-de-angel-flaca-divina/23619326/.
I can not locate the other place?
They have 2 locations La America and Barrio LOS Colores. www.ellaserotic.co.
1 hour $120,000.
1/2 hour $80,000.
Oral natural $40,000.
One of the nicer casa's around.
JuliusGeezer
01-24-23, 18:59
Hey guys, sorry if this has been asked but I'm sure some of you have seen the YouTube videos about Scopolamine on the Obi Laand channel on YouTube. I was watching the one titled "Ice Cold Scopolamine Queen says she doesn't care about her victims" and at the 4:26 mark the girl says she puts the drug around her chest and ears and neck. Any thoughts on this or anyone know if this would be effective in any way in getting the victim drugged on it's own? I am strictly talking about if the person didn't have their drink spiked and this was the only way.
A while back someone posted a myth vs reality article on Scopolamine here and it referred to the fact that getting the drug blown in your face is most likely a myth and very unlikely to have any effect. Wondering how this could work however what the girl mentions.
YouTube link: https://youtu.be/o9xVhm8ltnM.
My best advice is don't over think it. Be smart and be you. Some people may same I'm stupid for drinking and partying, but that's me. So I can still be aware and alert because I'm used to partying. But if you don't party much then yea you are probably a lot bigger target if you go down there and get hammered.
The end. I hope this helps some people.Great report, very informative. I have never been to the Mansion but it think it is the best way for first timers. The location is fine and not too far from bars and clubs. On the second trip, you might want to explore a bit more. I might finally visit that Mansion bar on my next trip just to check it out. The girls are screened so the chances of being drugged and robbed by one of the girls in the bar is very low and for newbies, that is a great thing.
Another reports from a long time ago. At least 6+ months ago. I walked to Gusto's from my apartment, and immediately in the area surrounding Gusto's, there are lots of working women. A lot of them a pretty hot too. I paid the cover to get into Gusto's (maybe it was $20? Maybe a lot less than that? I don't really remember). When I got inside, it was CROWDED. Gusto's isn't really like a strip club the way La Isla is. It's more like a traditional night club, except all the women inside are hookers, and all the men are patrons. It was body to body. The girls in this club were more what you think of when you think Colombiana, for better or for worse. Big, curvy, plastic, done up with hot makeup etc. It wasn't my cup of tea. I thought the girls at La Isla were hotter, but that's kind of like comparing apples and oranges. Go to La Isla if you want a strip club experience. Gusto's if you want a night club experience. Gusto's was a little overwhelming for me. I didn't ask any prices from any girls. I wasn't in a girl friendly hotel anyway, so I didn't have a way to seal the deal with a girl from Gusto's had I wanted to.Gusto's is charging cover in USD now?
Gusto's is charging cover in USD now?No. It's been awhile. Last time I was there it was 20 k at the door. La Isla cover charge is 50 k now.
RiceRocket99
01-24-23, 22:36
Is one of you flying one of my favs to Madrid, and then to Paris? Damn, talk about spoiling it. Her social media is lit with Mona Lisa and Eiffel Tower pics / videos. I can't hate, if I had the funds I'll do it too. She's a hottie and a sweetie. I have personally flown some of my favs to Cancun, Lima, and Rio. Those were great vacays. I even flew one to the Bay Area once because she had a US visa, but that was a stupid ass decision on my part after the fact (long story), never doing that again. We did have great sex, but the overall cost and suffering afterwards was not worth it at all. It was like 7 yrs ago and I was younger (34 at the time) and def dumber. Now I'm older and still dumber jajaja.
Gusto's is charging cover in USD now?It was 20 k COP in December when I went.
Hey guys, sorry if this has been asked but I'm sure some of you have seen the YouTube videos about Scopolamine on the Obi Laand channel on YouTube. I was watching the one titled "Ice Cold Scopolamine Queen says she doesn't care about her victims" and at the 4:26 mark the girl says she puts the drug around her chest and ears and neck. Any thoughts on this or anyone know if this would be effective in any way in getting the victim drugged on it's own? I am strictly talking about if the person didn't have their drink spiked and this was the only way.
A while back someone posted a myth vs reality article on Scopolamine here and it referred to the fact that getting the drug blown in your face is most likely a myth and very unlikely to have any effect. Wondering how this could work however what the girl mentions.
YouTube link: https://youtu.be/o9xVhm8ltnM.It's possible those things may have happened. But I'm guessing 99% of the time it's put in the victim's drink. It's just too easy and practical to do it that way. Obviously a girl that does this doesn’t care about the victim.
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