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Hey guys, sorry if this has been asked but I'm sure some of you have seen the YouTube videos about Scopolamine on the Obi Laand channel on YouTube. I was watching the one titled "Ice Cold Scopolamine Queen says she doesn't care about her victims" and at the 4:26 mark the girl says she puts the drug around her chest and ears and neck. Any thoughts on this or anyone know if this would be effective in any way in getting the victim drugged on it's own? I am strictly talking about if the person didn't have their drink spiked and this was the only way.
A while back someone posted a myth vs reality article on Scopolamine here and it referred to the fact that getting the drug blown in your face is most likely a myth and very unlikely to have any effect. Wondering how this could work however what the girl mentions.
YouTube link: https://youtu.be/o9xVhm8ltnM.Perhaps a pharmacist could give you a better answer. Here's mine:
Scopolamine is often used in a transdermal patch to treat motion sickness. If you put on enough patches you could maybe knock yourself out. However, what's being used to drug and rob people is a tablet form, or powdered form, so it will dissolve in liquid. I highly doubt it would stick well to skin. You can test it out by grinding up a couple of ibuprofen the next time you have a headache. Just rub the powder on your arm, wait an hour, then lick your arm and see if your headache goes away.
Even if it sticks well to the skin, without being absorbed, without leaving a residue, it would require a much larger amount to be used and there's no guarantee the guy is going to decide to give the girl a whole body cat bath.
To be on the safe side, if a woman demands that you lick her entire body, make her shower first.
FlowState985
01-25-23, 04:05
It was 20 k COP in December when I went.It's 20 mil cop. I was there on Saturday and Sunday. I think the other poster meant it was 20 as in 20 mil but using money sign kinda confusing.
Lleras Park Club charging 10 mil now, sometimes they do and sometimes they don't, fucking weird because we went in as a group for free and then 2 hours later we tried to go in and they tried to charge us 10 mil each. We saw some people go in for free. Also, we saw Tyreek Hill there on Sunday night.
Oh and there is a big bar in the corner close to Juan Valdez coffee. We went in and then we didn't order or buy anything, the security didn't let me leave, asking for a ticket so then I just snucked out saying I'm wait for my friend here "espero aqui" jaja, he even followed me and my friends to lleras park club and asked for ticket. Kinda aggressive. We just ignored him and talked to each other in English until he left jaja.
RamDavidson84
01-25-23, 05:21
It's 20 mil cop. I was there on Saturday and Sunday. I think the other poster meant it was 20 as in 20 mil but using money sign kinda confusing.
Lleras Park Club charging 10 mil now, sometimes they do and sometimes they don't, fucking weird because we went in as a group for free and then 2 hours later we tried to go in and they tried to charge us 10 mil each. We saw some people go in for free. Also, we saw Tyreek Hill there on Sunday night.
Oh and there is a big bar in the corner close to Juan Valdez coffee. We went in and then we didn't order or buy anything, the security didn't let me leave, asking for a ticket so then I just snucked out saying I'm wait for my friend here "espero aqui" jaja, he even followed me and my friends to lleras park club and asked for ticket. Kinda aggressive. We just ignored him and talked to each other in English until he left jaja.Why blow a guy's spot up and posting online you saw him there? Really fucked up if true man. Hopefully forum moderator takes it out.
SIM cards:
You can buy your SIM card at the airport. Go to Departures (upper floor). Go to the gift shop that has Claro / Tigo signs. I think I paid around 10,000 COP for a Claro SIM card. You can put money towards MBs or buy a package. 7,500 COP will get you 2 GB for 7 days. If your Colombian sim card has credit you can dial *611# to buy packages.
El centro:
If you have time you should definitely visit El Centro. I was there 2 days ago. 10-11 am. All girls were way below average. I stopped by at 11:30 am to noon. I saw some good looking ones. I saw 2 girls who were definitely above average. For the price of a Big Mac it was an absolutely deal! Unfortunately for me, I had one of my regulars coming to my Airbnb so I only went there to look. I didn't see any gringos. I only saw locals so it you go make sure not to wear anything flashy and only take a few pesos w you. I saw a few cops asking locals for their IDs so make sure to take an ID. A driver's licence or even a health card should work.
Viagra / Sildenafil:
After my 4th shot of the day I decided to buy Sildenafil. I went to the same drugstore I got it last time. I was told there is a new law that requires customers to show a prescription!! I thought this is Colombia so there must a store willing to sell me one without prescription so I went to another drugstore and bingo! I am sure that bastard overcharged me. I don't remember paying 30,000 COP last time.
Pusssy Drain:
I heard about Brain drain but never about pussy drain. It is real. So 60% of my non pro friends are going to Mexico, Spain and France to turn pros. There is some type of mafia recruiting girls in Medellin like there is no tomorrow. Two of my friends and her friends went to Mexico. One them went from a very shy 18 year old to a heartless pro who only cares about money. One of my favorite girls is going to Mexico to become a pro next week. She has an absolute perfect body. As I was ready to take my cab to the airport she said it was my fault she was leaving to Mexico because I never introduced her to my gringo friends. If anybody is in Medellin right now I am happy to share the contact info of my friends. I rather share them than see them go. I never take naked pictures but here a picture she sent me new year's eve.
AmorPorFavor
01-25-23, 06:36
SIM cards:
You can buy your SIM card at the airport. Go to Departures (upper floor). Go to the gift shop that has Claro / Tigo signs. I think I paid around 10,000 COP for a Claro SIM card. You can put money towards MBs or buy a package. 7,500 COP will get you 2 GB for 7 days. If your Colombian sim card has credit you can dial *611# to buy packages.
El centro:
If you have time you should definitely visit El Centro. I was there 2 days ago. 10-11 am. All girls were way below average. I stopped by at 11:30 am to noon. I saw some good looking ones. I saw 2 girls who were definitely above average. For the price of a Big Mac it was an absolutely deal! Unfortunately for me, I had one of my regulars coming to my Airbnb so I only went there to look. I didn't see any gringos. I only saw locals so it you go make sure not to wear anything flashy and only take a few pesos w you. I saw a few cops asking locals for their IDs so make sure to take an ID. A driver's licence or even a health card should work.
Viagra / Sildenafil:
After my 4th shot of the day I decided to buy Sildenafil. I went to the same drugstore I got it last time. I was told there is a new law that requires customers to show a prescription!! I thought this is Colombia so there must a store willing to sell me one without prescription so I went to another drugstore and bingo! I am sure that bastard overcharged me. I don't remember paying 30,000 COP last time.
Pusssy Drain:
I heard about Brain drain but never about pussy drain. It is real. So 60% of my non pro friends are going to Mexico, Spain and France to turn pros. There is some type of mafia recruiting girls in Medelland like there is no tomorrow. Two of my friends and her friends went to Mexico. One them went from a very shy 18 year old to a heartless pro who only cares about money. One of my favorite girls is going to Mexico to become a pro next week. She has an absolute perfect body. As I was ready to take my cab to the airport she said it was my fault she was leaving to Mexico because I never introduced her to my gringo friends. If anybody is in Medellin right now I am happy to share the contact info of my friends. I rather share them than see them go. I never take naked pictures but here a picture she sent me new year's eve.Do you know where in Mexico they are going? She looks hot, I'll be there in 4 weeks, if she will still be around PM me.
SIM cards:
You can buy your SIM card at the airport. Go to Departures (upper floor). Go to the gift shop that has Claro / Tigo signs. I think I paid around 10,000 COP for a Claro SIM card. You can put money towards MBs or buy a package. 7,500 COP will get you 2 GB for 7 days. If your Colombian sim card has credit you can dial *611# to buy packages.
El centro:
If you have time you should definitely visit El Centro. I was there 2 days ago. 10-11 am. All girls were way below average. I stopped by at 11:30 am to noon. I saw some good looking ones. I saw 2 girls who were definitely above average. For the price of a Big Mac it was an absolutely deal! Unfortunately for me, I had one of my regulars coming to my Airbnb so I only went there to look. I didn't see any gringos. I only saw locals so it you go make sure not to wear anything flashy and only take a few pesos w you. I saw a few cops asking locals for their IDs so make sure to take an ID. A driver's licence or even a health card should work.
Viagra / Sildenafil:
After my 4th shot of the day I decided to buy Sildenafil. I went to the same drugstore I got it last time. I was told there is a new law that requires customers to show a prescription!! I thought this is Colombia so there must a store willing to sell me one without prescription so I went to another drugstore and bingo! I am sure that bastard overcharged me. I don't remember paying 30,000 COP last time.
Pusssy Drain:
I heard about Brain drain but never about pussy drain. It is real. So 60% of my non pro friends are going to Mexico, Spain and France to turn pros. There is some type of mafia recruiting girls in Medelland like there is no tomorrow. Two of my friends and her friends went to Mexico. One them went from a very shy 18 year old to a heartless pro who only cares about money. One of my favorite girls is going to Mexico to become a pro next week. She has an absolute perfect body. As I was ready to take my cab to the airport she said it was my fault she was leaving to Mexico because I never introduced her to my gringo friends. If anybody is in Medellin right now I am happy to share the contact info of my friends. I rather share them than see them go. I never take naked pictures but here a picture she sent me new year's eve.I will be down there tomorrow. If you want to share aime of your friends. Time for me to meet new people.
....If you feel Medellin is too dangerous for you, don't go.....I like pussy too much to not go.
Pusssy Drain:
I heard about Brain drain but never about pussy drain. It is real. So 60% of my non pro friends are going to Mexico, Spain and France to turn pros. .Where do they all go in Mexico? I didn't find it easy in Mexico City when I was there couple of weeks ago.
Medellin certainly changed, full of groups of dudes.
FlowState985
01-25-23, 17:09
Why blow a guy's spot up and posting online you saw him there? Really fucked up if true man. Hopefully forum moderator takes it out.Blow up a guy's spot? You must be living under a rock. It is all over Facebook expats and facebook insider group. If you were in one, you would've known by now.
FlowState985
01-25-23, 17:33
SIM cards:
You can buy your SIM card at the airport. Go to Departures (upper floor). Go to the gift shop that has Claro / Tigo signs. I think I paid around 10,000 COP for a Claro SIM card. You can put money towards MBs or buy a package. 7,500 COP will get you 2 GB for 7 days. If your Colombian sim card has credit you can dial *611# to buy packages.
El centro:
If you have time you should definitely visit El Centro. I was there 2 days ago. 10-11 am. All girls were way below average. I stopped by at 11:30 am to noon. I saw some good looking ones. I saw 2 girls who were definitely above average. For the price of a Big Mac it was an absolutely deal! Unfortunately for me, I had one of my regulars coming to my Airbnb so I only went there to look. I didn't see any gringos. I only saw locals so it you go make sure not to wear anything flashy and only take a few pesos w you. I saw a few cops asking locals for their IDs so make sure to take an ID. A driver's licence or even a health card should work.
This sim card option might be a bit easier for newcomer. 10 mil at airport vs 5 mil at a store in the city is not that much different considering for convenient to get up and running.
As far as El centro, BarrioSpinner and I have been hitting it up everyday from around 12-6. We basically meet up and hit up the casas, Zandaly got some nice line up, probably best out of 3 (New Life, and Sexy Amigas). After a sess, we walk towards Botero and grab lunch or chill at coffee shop next to the Museo and then walk around, hit up the grills around 4-5 pm is where most of the girls coming in, got them fresh and hot. Nueva Grill Avienda got a few good looking spinner than Conejita, we both sessioned there a few times, price is 70-80 mil for half, beer is 8 mil. We leave the area by metro back to Laureles around 7.
I will be down there tomorrow. If you want to share aime of your friends. Time for me to meet new people.I'll DM you now, I also messaged 33 FlowState985. Let's go as a group, more fun and safer that way.
Gusto's is charging cover in USD now?Sorry, I don't remember exactly what the cover was in Colombian currency or USD, so I was just guessing about what I thought it was. If other posters are saying it's 20 k cop, that's probably right. So only $5. I was way off.
I like pussy too much to not go.I mostly go for the arepas.
MarcoReyes
01-25-23, 19:58
Yes. I never had a problem meeting with a prepago in their apartments. I recommend to get the exact address of where she is and for her to give you a picture of the outside of her apartment, especially at night because they can be hard to find once you arrive.
Thanks for a wonderful report. Haven't seen one like this for a long time.
Is it generally safe to visit the prepagos in their apartments?
Is one of you flying one of my favs to Madrid, and then to Paris? Damn, talk about spoiling it. Her social media is lit with Mona Lisa and Eiffel Tower pics / videos. I can't hate, if I had the funds I'll do it too. She's a hottie and a sweetie. I have personally flown some of my favs to Cancun, Lima, and Rio. Those were great vacays. I even flew one to the Bay Area once because she had a US visa, but that was a stupid ass decision on my part after the fact (long story), never doing that again. We did have great sex, but the overall cost and suffering afterwards was not worth it at all. It was like 7 yrs ago and I was younger (34 at the time) and def dumber. Now I'm older and still dumber jajaja.Yes, I flew with one in Madrid and Paris, I don't know if it's one of your favs, how old is your fav?
g over, so I said my goodbyes to everyone and left.
I never felt unsafe. I also never did anything stupid, like leave an open drink around any of these chicks. I never flaunted money and I didn't wear expensive jewelry. The mansion is super ideal because it's set up for this and if you are going for your first time this place is a no-brainer. There's zero chance you will regret staying here. I only had 1 regret the whole trip and that was banging the same semi-average chick 3 times. Out of the 7 times I had sex on the trip 3 of them were with her and she was just ok. Ok I also regret somewhat not going in Llleras Park nightclub my first night too.
Did it cost you to bring girls back to your room like a guest charge or same of it was one of the girls from the bar.
Was the hippy chick from the Mansion bar? She sounds like my cup of tea.
Also thanks for the report, I was a bit weary of I made the right choice booking there but your post eases my concerns.
Did it cost you to bring girls back to your room like a guest charge or same of it was one of the girls from the bar.
Was the hippy chick from the Mansion bar? She sounds like my cup of tea.
Also thanks for the report, I was a bit weary of I made the right choice booking there but your post eases my concerns.No charge to bring any guest to your room, whether you picked them up there or elsewhere.
Hippy chick was there at least last Friday and Saturday night. Friday she was with 2 friends and they were chilling in a corner, they looked like stoners LOL. Saturday I was too fucked up to remember if she was alone. We smoked alone so maybe.
Definitely no regrets about staying there. I'd go back for sure. If I went with a group of guys I'd consider staying elsewhere, but it's so convenient.
If you are staying at the mansion there is no charge to take a girl to your room, I know a few Hippy type chicas if anyone needs a number.
Did it cost you to bring girls back to your room like a guest charge or same of it was one of the girls from the bar.
Was the hippy chick from the Mansion bar? She sounds like my cup of tea.
Also thanks for the report, I was a bit weary of I made the right choice booking there but your post eases my concerns.
I believe you can mitigate the risk of getting drugged off their skin by requesting a joint shower immediately they show up. They are there to make money and will more than likely to comply if you are firm, and they understand they have to turn around and go home empty handed.
"Ice Cold Scopolamine Queen says she doesn't care about her victims" and at the 4:26 mark the girl says she puts the drug around her chest and ears and neck. Any thoughts on this or anyone know if this would be effective in any way in getting the victim drugged on it's own?
Perhaps to rule out the possibility or mitigate the risk, you could require a joint shower immediately after a chica shows up. She's there to make money and will more than likely comply if you're firm and if she understands she has to turn around and go home empty handed without hitting the shower first.
"Ice Cold Scopolamine Queen says she doesn't care about her victims" and at the 4:26 mark the girl says she puts the drug around her chest and ears and neck. Any thoughts on this or anyone know if this would be effective in any way in getting the victim drugged on it's own?
RamDavidson84
01-26-23, 03:33
Blow up a guy's spot? You must be living under a rock. It is all over Facebook expats and facebook insider group. If you were in one, you would've known by now.Two wrongs don't make a right. Follow the code. What happens in a strip club / brothel / casa / etc-stays in a strip club. If you have to share info, just state, "I saw a famous NFL football player there as well".
RiceRocket99
01-26-23, 04:04
Damn, I was kinda half ass kidding about it jajaja. Didn't expect a response, it may be the same girl, may be a different one. All good, no need to put her on blast on this board.
She's more of a friend than a fav now since we've known each other for years.
Yes, I flew with one in Madrid and Paris, I don't know if it's one of your favs, how old is your fav?
JuanDeFuca7777
01-26-23, 04:38
Hi All!
I will be in Medellin in early March and it will be the very first time for me. In terms of safety, if I visit the El Centro area during daytime and decide to pay a visit to one of the street SP (say Raudal area in El Centro), is there any actual risk of being drugged / robbed once inside the building?
Thanks in advance.
JuanDeFuca7777
01-26-23, 04:59
Perhaps to rule out the possibility or mitigate the risk, you could require a joint shower immediately after a chica shows up. She's there to make money and will more than likely comply if you're firm and if she understands she has to turn around and go home empty handed without hitting the shower first.If I pay a visit to the street chicas in El Centro during the day, is there any actual risk of being drugged / mugged once inside the buildings they work out of? Thanks!
Hi All!
I will be in Medellin in early March and it will be the very first time for me. In terms of safety, if I visit the El Centro area during daytime and decide to pay a visit to one of the street SP (say Raudal area in El Centro), is there any actual risk of being drugged / robbed once inside the building?
Thanks in advance.
If I pay a visit to the street chicas in El Centro during the day, is there any actual risk of being drugged / mugged once inside the buildings they work out of? Thanks!You be fine walking in centro during the day. Key thing in any foreign country you go, do flash your wealth. Leave the fancy shit at home. And the girls work out of love hotels. They are safe once inside.
Hi All!
I will be in Medellin in early March and it will be the very first time for me. In terms of safety, if I visit the El Centro area during daytime and decide to pay a visit to one of the street SP (say Raudal area in El Centro), is there any actual risk of being drugged / robbed once inside the building?
Thanks in advance.I would say 100% you're safe, in that situation, from being drugged and robbed. However, if you go up to a tiny room and there are 5 or 6 unconscious men piled everywhere, you probably should run away.
PlateauPunter
01-26-23, 23:34
I am currently in Medelland. The arrival was a bit shitty because Medellin's airport is currently performing maintenance at night (around 1 am). My initial flight was a bit late so it got cancelled because Medellin's airport shut down at 1 am. I don't know if they are done w the maintenance but if you flight is late you might end up w a cancelled flight.
A few of my friends went semi pros. They told me there is a bunch of mexican guys recruiting Medelland girls. Kicker is that these mexican guys only want them for more than 2 months and after that they get new girls. They can come back after 2 months.
I am always happy to see my friends and I like to think they are happy to see me too. Happy to share their contact info. I feel terrible that I can only see them once or twice because of work.Please see DM.
LoveItHere69
01-27-23, 01:38
I would say 100% you're safe, in that situation, from being drugged and robbed. However, if you go up to a tiny room and there are 5 or 6 unconscious men piled everywhere, you probably should run away.You can be robbed indirectly. Robbed of services. Girl took me to her ST hotel where she knew everyone and nobody knew me. Got to the room and she would not take off her shirt. That was extra. As I tried to leave she yelled out the hotel room into the lobby and they tried to shut the metal gate at the entrance. I slipped out barely. If I had not made it out they would have called guys from down the stairs on the street. Best to get whatever service you can from her or pay her and leave. If guys get called up they will surely take more than what is owed to the girl. Basically get their share. If she will only go to "her" hotel she mostly likely will give bad service.
JuanDeFuca7777
01-27-23, 01:43
You be fine walking in centro during the day. Key thing in any foreign country you go, do flash your wealth. Leave the fancy shit at home. And the girls work out of love hotels. They are safe once inside.
I would say 100% you're safe, in that situation, from being drugged and robbed. However, if you go up to a tiny room and there are 5 or 6 unconscious men piled everywhere, you probably should run away.Great! Thanks 🙏.
I assume that being with the working girls (of legal age obviously) is legal as long as you are in the tolerance zone?
Great! Thanks 🙏.
I assume that being with the working girls (of legal age obviously) is legal as long as you are in the tolerance zone?Yes, you won't have any issues with police.
You can be robbed indirectly. Robbed of services. Girl took me to her ST hotel where she knew everyone and nobody knew me. Got to the room and she would not take off her shirt. That was extra. As I tried to leave she yelled out the hotel room into the lobby and they tried to shut the metal gate at the entrance. I slipped out barely. If I had not made it out they would have called guys from down the stairs on the street. Best to get whatever service you can from her or pay her and leave. If guys get called up they will surely take more than what is owed to the girl. Basically get their share. If she will only go to "her" hotel she mostly likely will give bad service."Drugged and robbed." That's very specific. It means that picking a girl off the street in El Centro and going to a short time room with her carries no risk of being drugged and robbed.
However, she might have a stinky pussy. She might give a lousy blowjob. She might give lousy service. She might even have a penis. There are many ways that any encounter might not live up to your expectations.
In your situation, you were wrong. You failed to negotiate for everything you wanted before getting to the room. If you didn't want to pay for the extras you should have taken what was included, paid the fee and walked away, or paid, said no thanks and walked away. Once you've entered the room payment is expected. Otherwise you're risking much more money and potentially getting your ass kicked, over 30 k.
I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it works.
I would say 100% you're safe, in that situation, from being drugged and robbed. However, if you go up to a tiny room and there are 5 or 6 unconscious men piled everywhere, you probably should run away.I would agree that you are safe when visiting casas but El Centro is not a safe neighborhood generally. There are low lifes hanging out in El Centro and robbing gringos is a good way to make money for those who do not have money. Compared to Poblado or Laurelles, it is not as safe. You would need to watch out for pickpockets, hit and run robberies, and walking around in more isolated streets, just like any other sketchy neighborhood in any country.
I have visited El Centro and I was fine but I walk around with a high level of awareness of my surroundings in El Centro.
I would agree that you are safe when visiting casas but El Centro is not a safe neighborhood generally. There are low lifes hanging out in El Centro and robbing gringos is a good way to make money for those who do not have money. Compared to Poblado or Laurelles, it is not as safe. You would need to watch out for pickpockets, hit and run robberies, and walking around in more isolated streets, just like any other sketchy neighborhood in any country.
I have visited El Centro and I was fine but I walk around with a high level of awareness of my surroundings in El Centro.Nobody said anything about casas. The guy asked about his risk of being drugged and robbed when going to a ST room with a street girl.
As for the casas, 5 years ago there were some guys hanging out near the casas stopping and robbing gringos as they left the casa. At least one of them would claim to be with the police. Several ISG members had encounters with the guy. New Life and some other casas posted pictures and warnings about the risk.
There are many risks, including in Laureles and Poblado.
If she will only go to "her" hotel she mostly likely will give bad service.I'm not sure if it's "most likely" that she'll give you bad service, however, I agree that if they insist on their motel, especially if it's off the beaten path, chances are much higher of it.
I always refuse those that insist on their place.
Gets me thinking, hmmm why?
I am getting ready for the upcoming trip to Medellin and I'm excited about it. This is my third trip to Medellin and I have learned a lot during my first two trips. On my first trip, I made a few mistakes and was unfamiliar with the layout of the city. Most newbies will make mistakes. I wouldn't worry about it except the drugging and robbery thing. Be careful about that. Ha ha ha,.
There are many ways to approach Medellin. Some like El Centro and the streetwalkers and casas. Some like Tinder or Seeking. I decided to focus on Facebook on my first trip and I have continued using it to find and meet girls on my second trip and now my third trip. I never used FB much prior to going to Medellin so there was a bit of a learning curve but I put in the time and have been learning a lot about meeting girls on FB. It has been very success for me and unlike Seeking, it is free.
Some say not to chat or negotiate with the girls until a week to go. I chat and come to an agreement with girls way before that, but that's just me. I don't schedule them until I am there except for the girl on the first day. The girls usually don't mention money and I don't know when they would bring it up so I bring it up myself and no one is offended. They would say that they want to meet me and I say it is possible, it depends on how much you are expecting. Then most say what will you give, and no one ever says I am not an escort or acts offended. Then I give an offer with the price and what I expect, and the girl says yes or no. If no, there is usually an counteroffer and then perhaps some back and forth. But some laugh at my offer and say no thanks and we both move on.
I prefer the semi-pros and if a girl looks too hardcore, I pass. I also pass on girls with too many friends and girls with almost nothing on their FB profile. 18-24 age range, slim and attractive is what I prefer but a few curvy girls here and there is also nice.
I am no expect on Medellin and continue to learn about the city and the girls on each trip. There is still a lot to learn but the lessons are a lot of fun.
Medellin can be great and it offers a lot to mongers but you have to be more aware of your safety in Medellin, more so than in other mongering cities.
In your situation, you were wrong. You failed to negotiate for everything you wanted before getting to the room. If you didn't want to pay for the extras you should have taken what was included, paid the fee and walked away, or paid, said no thanks and walked away. Once you've entered the room payment is expected. Otherwise you're risking much more money and potentially getting your ass kicked, over 30 k.
I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it works.To me mistake #1 is dealing with Centro street girls as many are working illegally and with fake documents if they have any at all. Plus the areas around Botero Plaza are plenty dangerous, even in the day. I've never gotten services that way, nor will I as so much could go wrong. But, seeing that you known about the game there, and purport to know the rules, is advance payment the norm upon entering the room? Can someone else chime in?
Also, in virtually any venue it's acceptable to cancel an appointment if the fun hasn't started yet. The girl may ask for some money for her "time" but would typically expect far less than the full fee. But if she wants to make a scene, and it's only 30 mil, would be better to pay her off. Though I'd never have been there to start with. The casas all give a full refund if you call off the deal before the fun starts, you definitely aren't going to get your ass kicked, plus the girls have been vetted. So why not spend close to the same money and go there?
And regarding the context of your reply, is getting topless a common "extra" there? LOL I speak of the Centro street girls. If not then what else would you need to get straight before heading to the dive hotel? It could turn into a very long negotiation. LOL.
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I assume that being with the working girls (of legal age obviously) is legal as long as you are in the tolerance zone?It has nothing to do with what zone it is. Not all of them are old enough so you will need to check if you are not sure.
For safety, look for this sign, and only go to the short time hotel where you can see this sign from the entrance. There are 4. Same for picking up SG, don't go too far away that you can's see this sign. This is only if you don't know what you are doing or where you should go and worry about safety.
Mr Enternational
01-27-23, 22:28
There are low lifes hanging out in El Centro and robbing gringos is a good way to make money for those who do not have money.They would starve if they were waiting for foreigners to rob. Those only come by every blue moon. The money is in robbing Colombians.
"Drugged and robbed." That's very specific. It means that picking a girl off the street in El Centro and going to a short time room with her carries no risk of being drugged and robbed.
However, she might have a stinky pussy. She might give a lousy blowjob. She might give lousy service. She might even have a penis. There are many ways that any encounter might not live up to your expectations.
In your situation, you were wrong. You failed to negotiate for everything you wanted before getting to the room. If you didn't want to pay for the extras you should have taken what was included, paid the fee and walked away, or paid, said no thanks and walked away. Once you've entered the room payment is expected. Otherwise you're risking much more money and potentially getting your ass kicked, over 30 k.
I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it works.I call BS Jjbee. There have been severally occasions where a Chica tried to change up the service as to what would be provided after in the room and I've gotten mad and left without paying the chica. It's happened atleast twice at Botero Real that I can remember and at that 3 hour hotel over by the subway on the other side of Berrio I took Ashly from the metro stairs there recently and she was saying she was going to give me BBFS then when we got to the room she started asking for a preservativo so I left and not only did I not pay her but I also went to the reception lady and raised hell until she gave me back my 22 k I had paid for the room.
And for the record I have never had my ass kicked after any 3 of those situations. Granted I try to avoid these types of situations as it just makes for a headache but sometimes the Chica lies outside and then tries to change shit up inside and that's where I put my foot down.
On one of the occasions in particular last October I left botero real after a ***** had lied to me about services she would provide (I was out my 8 k but that's all) and I went and found another chica at hotel cascada that gave me an excellent session and did everything I was looking for.
JuanDeFuca7777
01-27-23, 23:23
It has nothing to do with what zone it is. Not all of them are old enough so you will need to check if you are not sure.
For safety, look for this sign, and only go to the short time hotel where you can see this sign from the entrance. There are 4. Same for picking up SG, don't go too far away that you can's see this sign. This is only if you don't know what you are doing or where you should go and worry about safety.Thanks! But I am kind of confused.
Isn't prostitution legal throughout the Tolerance zones?
FlowState985
01-28-23, 02:03
Thanks! But I am kind of confused.
Isn't prostitution legal throughout the Tolerance zones?There is no tolerance zone in mde, only in Bog and that's Santa Fe, but more experience member can chime in.
There is no tolerance zone in mde, only in Bog and that's Santa Fe, but more experience member can chime in.I'm Colombia prostitution is legal anywhere you go. There are no designated zones where it is legal on one street and illegal on another. There are however areas set up with short time hoteles and certain parks and plazas where chicas tend to congregate, such as santa fe in bogotá and botero plaza in medellin but there is not law designating them to those particular places. You will find that you can find swers in many places.
LoveItHere69
01-28-23, 04:39
"Drugged and robbed." That's very specific. It means that picking a girl off the street in El Centro and going to a short time room with her carries no risk of being drugged and robbed.
In your situation, you were wrong. You failed to negotiate for everything you wanted before getting to the room.
I'm not saying it's right, but that's the way it works.I specified not a normal robbery as a joke but it is real and planned out by several girls.
Being naked for sex is expected. Only a hand full of troubling women have done this BS trick. I had several not want to take their shoes off. So I have to negotiate that too? Negotiates would take hours to cover everything. 5 fast pumps or 5 slow pumps? Shallow, deep, or somewhere in the middle penetration? Kiss your neck, cheek, lips? How many kisses?
I took a girl and had her one or two times. But the next time she tried that same shirt off extra BS. I got out quickly. Luckily the help there did not try to stop me.
Had another girl with big boobs and I specifically mentioned I wanted to suck on them. She said ok. We took a shower she got out first. 3 minutes later when I entered the bedroom she was rubbing baby oil on her boobs so I could not suck on her boobs. Well planned out.
I know the way things work in Centro better than you.
Are you transitioning to be a woman? You are always nagging on everyone's posts like you have nothing better to do. Oh, that's right you don't.
Thanks! But I am kind of confused.
Isn't prostitution legal throughout the Tolerance zones?Prostitution is not illegal in the country. The zonas de tolerencia allow for businesses such as the clubs to operate as legal businesses. And to allow street walkers, etc. More like a zoning designation.
There is no tolerance zone in mde, only in Bog and that's Santa Fe, but more experience member can chime in.I was told that the area behind the Botero museum and the Raudel area are part of a designated zona de tolerencia. It is a zoning designation, not sure if there are any others in Medellin, but I expect there may be.
I was just reading an article about Cuba Dave and his trial in Costa Rica for promoting prostitution. It was an older article and I don't know if you guys know about him but the article said he was freed on appeal and he left the country. It says that he has now moved to Colombia. When I was in Costa Rica, I hear so many stories about guys moving on from Costa Rica to Colombia. I am also hearing that more guys who have been going to Mexico are now visiting Colombia so Colombia is definitely is attracting a lot of attention. It is what it is. I know there are guys trying to hold the line on the so called going rate but when you have more and more guys coming to Colombia and the same amount of girls, supply and demand takes over, and the price goes up.
Anyway, there are some comments from Cuba Dave in that article that are very appropriate here and should be listened to by older mongers:
"A 60 year old man sleeping with 20 year old women and believing that they really like them is crazy. This is fantasy. This is entertainment. ".
Words of wisdom spoken by an experienced monger.
Thanks! But I am kind of confused.
Isn't prostitution legal throughout the Tolerance zones?My suggestion is based on reality. The sex workers in Medellin are not limited to any zone that I know of. Is Park Lleras a Tolerance Zone? I don't think so. You will need to explain what do you think the law does and how is it being enforced in reality or someone knows the law can chime in?
...s advance payment the norm upon entering the room? Can someone else chime in?... LOL.My experience is that it is not the norm but it has happened more often than FB girls, relatively speaking. Changing deal is not uncommon. It has happened with FB girls too, just less often. I have not met one that didn't get naked in the room yet.
I call BS Jjbee. There have been severally occasions where a Chica tried to change up the service as to what would be provided after in the room and I've gotten mad and left without paying the chica. It's happened atleast twice at Botero Real that I can remember and at that 3 hour hotel over by the subway on the other side of Berrio I took Ashly from the metro stairs there recently and she was saying she was going to give me BBFS then when we got to the room she started asking for a preservativo so I left and not only did I not pay her but I also went to the reception lady and raised hell until she gave me back my 22 k I had paid for the room.
And for the record I have never had my ass kicked after any 3 of those situations. Granted I try to avoid these types of situations as it just makes for a headache but sometimes the Chica lies outside and then tries to change shit up inside and that's where I put my foot down.
On one of the occasions in particular last October I left botero real after a ***** had lied to me about services she would provide (I was out my 8 k but that's all) and I went and found another chica at hotel cascada that gave me an excellent session and did everything I was looking for.What are you calling BS on? He suggested, when he left the ST place, guys might detain him and take his money. If you find yourself in a situation where you might have whatever you have on you taken, or be subject to violence, if you don't pay 30 k, paying 30 k is the obvious choice. I respond to what is written, not what has happened to others (unless they've written about it and it's related).
Furthermore (and I don't know why nobody seems to grasp something so simple) the original question was:
Are you at risk of being drugged and robbed if you take a girl from the street in El Centro to a ST room?
My answer was "No. " Whether or not the girl will try to change the deal once you're in the room is unrelated to the original question and my response. Whether casas are safe, or a better option, also completely unrelated.
If you want to discuss how to deal with bad service, or girls not sticking to the deal, by all means, post about it.
I specified not a normal robbery as a joke but it is real and planned out by several girls.
Being naked for sex is expected. Only a hand full of troubling women have done this BS trick. I had several not want to take their shoes off. So I have to negotiate that too? Negotiates would take hours to cover everything. 5 fast pumps or 5 slow pumps? Shallow, deep, or somewhere in the middle penetration? Kiss your neck, cheek, lips? How many kisses?
I took a girl and had her one or two times. But the next time she tried that same shirt off extra BS. I got out quickly. Luckily the help there did not try to stop me.
Had another girl with big boobs and I specifically mentioned I wanted to suck on them. She said ok. We took a shower she got out first. 3 minutes later when I entered the bedroom she was rubbing baby oil on her boobs so I could not suck on her boobs. Well planned out.
I know the way things work in Centro better than you.
Are you transitioning to be a woman? You are always nagging on everyone's posts like you have nothing better to do. Oh, that's right you don't.I'll ask again, because apparently this is incredibly difficult for you.
What does any of that have to do with getting drugged and robbed in a ST room by an El Centro street girl? Did the girl who wouldn't take her shirt off try to drug you first? Did you suspect the baby oil might contain some type of drug? Was there a possibility the girl had a James Bond pair of shoes loaded with knockout gas? Is there any way you can connect any of your examples with being drugged and robbed?
Or were you just nagging on my original response because you have nothing better to do?
Here's an idea. If you want to post about all of the potential issues which might arise when dealing with street girls, post about all the potential issues and your strategies for avoiding or countering those issues. If someone wants to post about why they prefer casas over street girls, they should also post about their preferences. You don't need my permission. You don't need to wait until I answer a question, which is completely unrelated, to try and score points against me. Just write the post, provide the information, help others with your knowledge. After all, you almost certainly have more experience with El Centro street girls. Share your knowledge and help others have better outcomes.
That way, there's no reason for me to nag on your posts.
SlapShot10
01-28-23, 20:24
With the recent murder accusation of a gringo stuffing a Colombian DJ into a suitcase, I've noticed a lot of girls posting warnings and other shit on their social media. I think now is a good time to be extra diligent about our safety in Medellin / Colombia. They don't seem to be as angry when gringos get found dead in their apartments, but it is what it is. I would guess chicks in need of money might be a little more willing to scope a gringo right now than a week ago. Just do your best to be cautious.
If you think the Paisa prepagos are thieves and provide poor service, try furnishing an apartment. Holy shit it's mind-boggling, some of the stuff that has gone on.
I finally bought a place, and will be getting a jacuzzi at some point. All is good, still having fun and reaping the rewards of living in Paisaland.
Hope all is well. Shoutout to all the Medellin pandemic bros. Those were good times. ISG provided a great outlet for the monotony, boredom, and loneliness.
Slapshot lives.
Cheers.
There are probably more robbers in Parque Lleras than anywhere else. I think all the Gringos attract them.
They would starve if they were waiting for foreigners to rob. Those only come by every blue moon. The money is in robbing Colombians.
There are probably more robbers in Parque Lleras than anywhere else. I think all the Gringos attract them.One issue with such a statement is what is the basis of this statement? What research have you conducted? What are the police statistics?
There are a lot of broad statements on this thread and most are not fact based. I don't have a clue about robberies in Parque Lleras versus other neighborhoods.
Another guy stated that FB girls usually do 3-4 gringos a week. Now, what is the basis of that statement? How do you know this? There are thousands of FB girls who engage with gringos. I doubt that there has been a scientific survey of a random sample of FB girls to assess their work schedule. Guys often say such things based on what one or two girls tell me but that is not enough to conclude what the average FB girl does.
I think the answer is we don't know and the FB girls are too varied to simply state a single conclusion.
Mr Enternational
01-29-23, 01:40
I know there are guys trying to hold the line on the so called going rate but when you have more and more guys coming to Colombia and the same amount of girls, supply and demand takes over, and the price goes up.Fortunately or unfortunately, fucking in Colombia has nothing to do with your first world economics lesson. During Covid there were thousands of chicks and 3 foreign mongers and prices went up. In a glut as such, pussy should have almost been free according to your model.
The only going rate is in a place that you walk in such as New Life and there is a price list on the wall. But if we get on facebook or tinder or sa, then I could be paying 100,000 and you could be paying 500,000.
You don't need my permission. You don't need to wait until I answer a question, which is completely unrelated, to try and score points against me.No one is plotting "against" you, or looking to "score points" against you, as your importance falls way short of such endeavors. You are a guy who was swindled in Medellin for a year back in 2017 by a webcam girl and have spent very little time in the city since. We questioned your assertion that street girls all expect to be paid in advance of any fun. We also questioned your claim that topless sex should as a matter of course be negotiated in advance, while it follows that, if that is true, all sorts of silly details should be settled prior to heading to the room. In response you play the victim, and, delusionally think you are of some great importance in these discussions when you aren't, aside from the obvious deliberate disruptions. Just relax wherever you are and finish out your life.
I was just reading an article about Cuba Dave and his trial in Costa Rica for promoting prostitution. It was an older article and I don't know if you guys know about him but the article said he was freed on appeal and he left the country. It says that he has now moved to Colombia. When I was in Costa Rica, I hear so many stories about guys moving on from Costa Rica to Colombia. I am also hearing that more guys who have been going to Mexico are now visiting Colombia so Colombia is definitely is attracting a lot of attention. It is what it is. I know there are guys trying to hold the line on the so called going rate but when you have more and more guys coming to Colombia and the same amount of girls, supply and demand takes over, and the price goes up.
Anyway, there are some comments from Cuba Dave in that article that are very appropriate here and should be listened to by older mongers:
"A 60 year old man sleeping with 20 year old women and believing that they really like them is crazy. This is fantasy. This is entertainment. ".
Words of wisdom spoken by an experienced monger.There was a specific law in Costa Rica. Around 2012 or so, that outlawed the promotion of Costa Rica for purposes of sex tourism. Along that line. CD had a website, some pictures, stories, a subscription service, etc. (a website hosted in the US). He went back and forth to CR, chatted with gals, got pictures, promoted certain businesses on his website. So one trip he got arrested on the basis of this law. He spent a couple of years more or less in "preventive detention" which is more like guilty until proven innocent than the other way around. He was convicted of something, appealed, and the appeal was successful. A lot of reasons for the appeal being successful it seems. And so he survived. Was released, and from what I hear living the good life.
The lessons, I think. You may be innocent, but preventive detention and detention before trial is standard in Latin American countries. No "innocent until proven guilty". Another lesson. Don't give any appearance of promoting or being accused of taking advantage of a person in this business. Don't brag on social media or online anywhere about your "fun" even though the fun is legal. And don't think that because you come from a certain country you are automatically protected by laws in your place of origin, such as free speech or other such things. A few things that come to mind.
There were a couple of other cases in Colombia that did not turn out that nicely. Different accusations and situations. But appealing your conviction or accusation doesn't work out if you are dead.
My suggestion is based on reality. The sex workers in Medellin are not limited to any zone that I know of. Is Park Lleras a Tolerance Zone? I don't think so. You will need to explain what do you think the law does and how is it being enforced in reality or someone knows the law can chime in?Parque Lleras most likely is not a zona de tolerencia. But sex work is not illegal as far as I know. It is a zoning issue. There is probably no automatic zoning to allow an overt sex business such as a strip club, brothel, etc. All that it is, as far as I know, is a standard zoning designation for certain areas where these sorts of businesses are automatically within municipal zoning laws. In places outside of that there may be an amendment required to a zoning designation, or some such thing. We have exactly the same thing in Canada. Massage parlors and strip clubs are only allowed in areas designated under zoning by-laws. Outside of those areas a variance would need to be approved by city council.
So it really has nothing to do with sex work being legal or not. It is whether you can get a permit to set up a certain type of business in a place.
I specified not a normal robbery as a joke but it is real and planned out by several girls.
Being naked for sex is expected. Only a hand full of troubling women have done this BS trick. I had several not want to take their shoes off. So I have to negotiate that too? Negotiates would take hours to cover everything. 5 fast pumps or 5 slow pumps? Shallow, deep, or somewhere in the middle penetration? Kiss your neck, cheek, lips? How many kisses?
I took a girl and had her one or two times. But the next time she tried that same shirt off extra BS. I got out quickly. Luckily the help there did not try to stop me.
Had another girl with big boobs and I specifically mentioned I wanted to suck on them. She said ok. We took a shower she got out first. 3 minutes later when I entered the bedroom she was rubbing baby oil on her boobs so I could not suck on her boobs. Well planned out.
I know the way things work in Centro better than you.
Are you transitioning to be a woman? You are always nagging on everyone's posts like you have nothing better to do. Oh, that's right you don't.Now I'll try to help you avoid these types of issues in the future.
Absolutely you have more experience in El Centro. You've probably done your thing there hundreds of times. Yet, even knowing how things work, and with all that experience, you can still have problems. Fortunately, I enjoy trying to solve problems.
You're already starting at a disadvantage, and this has nothing to do with you. There are 3 things which make having a good session with the girls in El Centro harder than having a good session with a Facebook girl, IMO.
1. Location. You're taking girls to basic rooms, not all of which are especially clean. It's the same type of place they see every day. When they go home, it's probably not much of an improvement. Guys staying in just average places are bringing girls to a much better place than they're used to. Guys like me, who splurge on nice places are taking them, for awhile, to the life they dream about. It's easier for a girl to be excited about a session in a better environment.
2. Time. With a Facebook girl there's plenty of time to set things up and plenty of time for the girl to relax. You've got a short time to work out the deal and only 20-30 minutes to finish up.
3. Money. With El Centro rates, your payment is maybe 20-30% of what the girl hopes to make each day. Each customer for a typical Facebook girl pays 20-30% of what she expects to make for the week. You're just 1 of dozens of customers, instead of 1 of a few.
Here are my suggestions for minimizing the problems you mentioned (except for 1). The good news is, you don't have to spend more time covering every contingency. For the ones who don't want to take off their shirt, just start specifying "desnuda, sin toda tu ropa"(naked without all of your clothes). Kissing is always going to be hit or miss, but that should reduce the number of girls who want more money to take of their shirt. Or you can insist they take a shower with you before the deed. If you've already soaped up her tits in the shower, you've probably avoided paying for the shirt to come off.
The baby oil on the tits after the shower might not have been an attempt to keep your mouth off of them. That might be her normal routine. My normal thing after a shower is to put on deodorant. It doesn't matter that I once had a girlfriend who enjoyed licking my armpits (it sounds crazy, and she was, but damn she was fun). I needed to be reminded not to use deodorant when I had a date with her.
The way I'd avoid the problem would be (after sucking on them in the shower) to get out of the shower at the same time. To me this is very important. Not only is it fun to dry each other off, but it's better if you don't leave the girl unsupervised, especially if your stuff is where she can get at it. That way, if she reaches for the oil, you're right there to stop her. Plus, if she's alone in the bed while you're in the shower, you're wasting time.
Girls who don't want to take their shoes off probably have a good reason. I've seen some floors that I didn't want to step on, but that's not the reason. If you're on your feet all day, your feet will swell. It's not a problem, until you take your shoes off. However, putting your shoes back on 20 or 30 minutes later might be difficult, even impossible with some women's shoes. Talk to a nurse and she'll confirm that swollen feet and heels don't mix.
There are other possibilities. Some have bad foot odor. Some have ugly feet. Some have complicated footwear that takes time to put on. Of course, insisting on showering together before the deed practically guarantees the shoes are coming off.
I sympathize with all the problems the El Centro guys have to deal with. Facebook has some drawbacks too, but it's definitely an easier way to get laid.
RiceRocket99
01-29-23, 10:34
Congrats bro. I feel your frustration about furnishing your own place. I still have screen doors sitting in my spare bedroom waiting to be installed since last summer LOL. Do you have a Bancolombia or local bank account? Def helps with paying for EPM, property tax, etc when you're out the country. You can easily get a Bancolombia account now that you have your own spot.
BTW. I know there's been lots of talk about druggings and being extra careful around chicas, which are warranted. But I don't give a fuck jajaja. I party hasta la chimba hpta! There's no way I'm going out with a girl or girls and not drink, and I dont have to worry about leaving my drink unattended cuz I down my shots every time all the time 😆..fondo blanco bitches. Maybe it's because I've been coming here for over 10 yrs so I have the spidey paisa sense to know when to quit or when to keep getting lit. Scope my ass shit, I live and let die jajaja. Ok, I lie. Actually, dont come down here. Medellin is too dangerous, go to Dominican Republic, much safer 👍
Almost forgot…tussi makes the pussy juicy when you’re in the jacuzzi 😆
I finally bought a place, and will be getting a jacuzzi at some point. All is good, still having fun and reaping the rewards of living in Paisaland.
Hope all is well. Shoutout to all the Medellin pandemic bros. Those were good times. ISG provided a great outlet for the monotony, boredom, and loneliness.
Slapshot lives.
Cheers.
I am looking to book Hotel dorado la 70 in Laureles, can someone tell me if its chica friendly, also do they register cedula for guests and if I book for 2 person will they ask for additional money to bring girls to your room, I became concerned about security by reading few recent posts about thus issue recently.
I had a flight to and from MDE, but it was cancelled. I went to their website and they have no flights out of MDE after the first week.
Anyone know what is going on?
I texted them to get my refund, and they told me it had something to do with COVID cases in Medellin.When is your flight, I am flying MIA-MED in first week of Feb and on their website there is no outbound flight after 7th Feb.
There are quick and easy brothels in El Centro that have been discussed here such as New Energy. You don't have to know anything, just the address of these casas like New Energy. You go in, you pick your girl and you screw and you pay a reasonable amount. There are also higher end strip clubs that have been mentioned where you can have sex in house. So for newbies there are some places to go for easy sex without much work.
As for Facebook, yes, you do need to do some advance work to make friend requests and for the girls to get around to accepting it and then for some chatting. It doesn't take months or years but it would take a few weeks before the trip. But it is true that those who have been doing it for a while have a blackbook of FB girls that makes it much easier because the girls know them and will meet with them quickly when they are in town for a price that has already been agreed upon.
It is better to know some Spanish but you don't have to be fluent. I just speak a little Spanish, just enough to get by. I probably spend 5 minutes every two days to learn a little Spanish and that is all the effort I make. You don't need game to meet with girls who are pay for play. You just need money.
But as you noted, Medellin is not as easy as Pattaya, Thailand, or some other mongering cities.New energy is different from Energy Fantasias Spa?
There was a specific law in Costa Rica. Around 2012 or so, that outlawed the promotion of Costa Rica for purposes of sex tourism. Along that line. CD had a website, some pictures, stories, a subscription service, etc. (a website hosted in the US). He went back and forth to CR, chatted with gals, got pictures, promoted certain businesses on his website. So one trip he got arrested on the basis of this law. He spent a couple of years more or less in "preventive detention" which is more like guilty until proven innocent than the other way around. He was convicted of something, appealed, and the appeal was successful. A lot of reasons for the appeal being successful it seems. And so he survived. Was released, and from what I hear living the good life.
The lessons, I think. You may be innocent, but preventive detention and detention before trial is standard in Latin American countries. No "innocent until proven guilty". Another lesson. Don't give any appearance of promoting or being accused of taking advantage of a person in this business. Don't brag on social media or online anywhere about your "fun" even though the fun is legal. And don't think that because you come from a certain country you are automatically protected by laws in your place of origin, such as free speech or other such things. A few things that come to mind.
There were a couple of other cases in Colombia that did not turn out that nicely. Different accusations and situations. But appealing your conviction or accusation doesn't work out if you are dead.The lesson I take from the Cuba Dave incident is to keep a low profile and don't get on the radar of your mongering country. Colombia does not want to have a reputation for prostitution. Like Costa Rica, they want to promote the country as a great place to visit and want to attract the non-mongering crowd.
I visit, I have a good time and I don't try to attract attention to myself other than with anonymous postings on this website.
It was New Year's Day and I had just gotten back from dinner with a few guys that I knew at El Poblado. It was probably around 11:00 pm and I decided to head down to the Mansion bar and hang out for a while. Being the evening of Jan 1st it was pretty dead in there with only a few girls there. I plopped down next to a girl and started chatting with her about stuff and in the conversation I find out that she is a nurse. In the conversation I found it interesting that she spent 2 years in nursing school and only made around $300 a month in salary working full time. We talked for around 20 minutes and after that thought she might be fun to play with so I ask her if she does oral natural. She reply's that she only does oral with a condom. So, I'm bummed because this is one of my requirements and really like this. So since there really were not any other options at the time, I decided to take her anyway and make the best of it.
We get back to my room and she starts taking her closes off and man she had huge tits, I had to make a bee line for those and enjoyed sucking on those for a while. There was a little milk left just a taste since she had finished breast feeding a few months ago. I then proceeded to move down for some DATY which was nice and clean. I had her pretty worked up by this time and myself too! I then proceeded to rub my dick on her pussy which was very wet by this time and proceeded to enter her missionary bareback which she was cool with. I ended up having her in about every position that I could think of which she was more that happy to accommodate.
After this I asked her if the would like a massage and she said an enthusiastic yes, she flipped over on the stomach and I proceeded to put some oil on her. I accidently put a little too much on her butt 😊. I massaged her back for around 5 minutes and started working my way down to her ass and started teasing her butt hole. She really seemed to like this and then told me that I could put my dick in. I was thinking this is pretty cool so I went at it real slow at first and once she was good and relaxed was able to go all in. I ended up climaxing deep in her ass.
Afterwards we sat around and talked for around 20 minutes and then she left. Total time 2 hours all inclusive $300,000 (around $66.00 us). I did have her over to my apartment in Laureles a few times after that session and she made it onto my regulars list.
So, the lesson learned here was just because they require a condom for oral does not mean that they will be not be a lot of fun. Then again, I was just plain stupid lucky.
... It says that he has now moved to Colombia. When I was in Costa Rica, I hear so many stories about guys moving on from Costa Rica to Colombia. I am also hearing that more guys who have been going to Mexico are now visiting Colombia so Colombia is definitely is attracting a lot of attention......It seems as though the greater the number of reports of guys being drugged the greater the number of guys going to Colombia. It all started when covid struck and many destinations were closed to mongers but Colombia remained open. So guys flooded to Colombia. I have fond memories of my pre-2010 trips to Colombia which were among my best mongering experiences. It is with a little trepidation that I look forward to my March trip but I plan to do things differently. Colombia is a destination not to be missed.
One issue with such a statement is what is the basis of this statement? What research have you conducted? What are the police statistics?....Given there very few gringos living El Centro, what is the basis of your post that seems to imply there are more locals waiting to rob gringos in El Centro?
So, the lesson learned here was just because they require a condom for oral does not mean that they will be not be a lot of fun. Then again, I was just plain stupid lucky.I think there are a lot of exceptions depending on how you treat them, and your own hygiene, chemistry etc. Sounds like you put in the work to make her relax and enjoy. I'd bet she's cool with BBBJ with you at this point too. Would be odd if not given the other bb activities. It's only really a fraction of the seasoned pros who stick to their own rules consistently if there is chemistry or they relax around you. Either you get an upsell offer (happens to me in casas / stripclubs) or you get them asking you to do bb and other kinky stuff no money mentioned if you get along well.
Given there very few gringos living El Centro, what is the basis of your post that seems to imply there are more locals waiting to rob gringos in El Centro?I am also guilty of making broad statements without much support. Is El Centro more dangerous than Poblado? I am just stating what a lot of videos on El Centro say and youtubers say but it is not a scientific analysis. I did take a walking tour with a local guide and he also thought that gringos have to be careful walking around El Centro because he thought that there are a lot of bad people hanging around El Centro. There may be more gringos in Poblado and so there might be more robberies of gringos in Poblado based on numbers but the percentage of gringos in El Centro being victims of crime may be higher based on the neighborhood but that is just speculation on my behalf.
One issue with such a statement is what is the basis of this statement? What research have you conducted? What are the police statistics?
There are a lot of broad statements on this thread and most are not fact based. I don't have a clue about robberies in Parque Lleras versus other neighborhoods.
Another guy stated that FB girls usually do 3-4 gringos a week. Now, what is the basis of that statement? How do you know this? There are thousands of FB girls who engage with gringos. I doubt that there has been a scientific survey of a random sample of FB girls to assess their work schedule. Guys often say such things based on what one or two girls tell me but that is not enough to conclude what the average FB girl does.
I think the answer is we don't know and the FB girls are too varied to simply state a single conclusion.With the robbers statement, the key word is "probably" and it's probably wrong. Population density and crime go together. Whether it's right or wrong, it's important to understand that you can fall victim in any neighborhood.
I sent a message to Zuckerberg, but he hasn't responded about sharing data on Facebook girls in Medellin so I'm stuck with my experiences. If you're willing to give me a significant research budget, I'll be happy to attempt to answer with facts and data and a nice presentation complete with bell curves. Until then I'll just stick with my anecdotal research.
Many Facebook girls are getting 3-5 Facebook customers per week. Some are pushing for 7-10, while others struggle with 1-3. Still others are happy with 1-2 per week because it covers the hole in the existing household income.
Methodology: Two methods for collecting data over a 4 year period were used. The first was observation. Facebook girls love to post pictures from dates. Elevator, pool and jacuzzi photos are common. The second method was simple data collection from test subjects. Indirect questioning was used to approximate work habits. Further study is needed.
Exclusions: Information only covers dates originating with foreigners on Facebook. No data was collected on additional sexual activities with husband's, boyfriends, girlfriends or low income Colombian customers.
I am looking to book Hotel dorado la 70 in Laureles, can someone tell me if its chica friendly, also do they register cedula for guests and if I book for 2 person will they ask for additional money to bring girls to your room, I became concerned about security by reading few recent posts about thus issue recently.It used to be a girl per day and need to register them. Call and ask. Is is a good hotel, but pricy now, almost 100 USD per night last time I checked.
Given there very few gringos living El Centro, what is the basis of your post that seems to imply there are more locals waiting to rob gringos in El Centro?I was in El Centro during the day, I don't think it's unsafe, lots of local tourists and families. At night I would not go alone.
I think Parque Lleras is very safe during the day and night. Lots of police presence. Robbing tourists is bad for business.
I don't think is as bad as some make it sound, if anything there are way more people out and about than I've ever seen. Don't flash your money and phone and you'll be fine.
No one is plotting "against" you, or looking to "score points" against you, as your importance falls way short of such endeavors. You are a guy who was swindled in Medellin for a year back in 2017 by a webcam girl and have spent very little time in the city since. We questioned your assertion that street girls all expect to be paid in advance of any fun. We also questioned your claim that topless sex should as a matter of course be negotiated in advance, while it follows that, if that is true, all sorts of silly details should be settled prior to heading to the room. In response you play the victim, and, delusionally think you are of some great importance in these discussions when you aren't, aside from the obvious deliberate disruptions. Just relax wherever you are and finish out your life.What? I understand your mental health is about as stable as a house of cards in a hurricane, but you seem to have vacated reality. Again.
I never stated that payment upon entering the room is standard practice. Many of the El Centro regulars have posted, and whenever the question comes up. I've always responded that you pay the girl after, not before. The exceptions are all strip clubs and most casas. Where you pay in advance. You pay after at New Life. At Energy I've been asked to pay before (the norm) and been asked to pay after.
However, and I'm paraphrasing the original post which prompted my response, which apparently brought on your most recent psychotic break, certain events require different tactics. The original post presented a situation where:
1. The girl wanted more money for something which is typically included in the base price.
2. The poster suggested he was at risk of losing much more than the agreed upon price if he left without paying.
3. The poster suggested there was a risk of physical violence if he left without paying and that efforts were made to detain him.
In the described situation, you can either agree to pay for the shirt to come off, or accept that you're getting less than expected for the 30-40 k price. And if you're feeling vindictive, you can pull out and blow your load on the shirt. If you're so disgusted by such a reversal, you can tell the girl you won't pay and leave. However, if you want to leave and points 2 and 3 are in play, your best move is to pay the girl and walk out. It's not worth risking everything you have, or risk being attacked over a few dollars.
Never did I assert, suggest or imply that street girls expect to be paid in advance. I'm not sure which "we" you're referring to, because you're the only one afflicted by that particular hallucination.
Sticking with your imaginary "we", I never stated that topless sex should be negotiated for, or anything else. However, in the past I've always asserted that if something is important to you, negotiate for it in advance. That's basic. If you can only eat a steak which is cooked well done, you better be very clear when ordering.
In addition, if something like pay extra for topless starts to be a regular problem then you should address the issue before making the deal. That's simple shit.
Just for the record:
I spent just short of 9 months in Medellin in 2017 (April 9 to December 31) minus 5 days spent in Bogota. In 2018 I spent almost 3 months in Medellin (January 1 to March 28). In 2019, I was only in Medellin for 11 days, although I stayed in a webcam girl's apartment in Sabaneta for free. The same webcam girl has repeatedly offered me free use of her Airbnb in Bogota (sure does suck getting swindled) Add 14 days in 2020 (Covid restrictions canceled my first trip plans). 2021 saw me in Medellin for only 12 days, and in Bogota, quarantined, for 2 weeks. 2022 was different. My first day was in Medellin. The next 5 days were spent in Bahia Solano with a girl from Envigado. Then 3 days in Envigado, 1 day in La Pintada with a girl from Guarne and the last 4 days in Medellin. My 2nd trip of 2022 I spent 3 days in Montelibano (visiting the above mentioned webcam girl) and 11 in Medellin. Between the 2 trips, the girl from Envigado came to visit twice, for 5 days at the end of June and again for 7 weeks in August and September. That's a total of 145 days in Medellin since 2017 and another 20 days elsewhere in Colombia. How does that stack up on the ISG non-ex-pat scale?
And finally, If I'm not that important, why are almost all of your posts either about me, or responding to me? And why are the events of 2017 so crucial to your entire existence that you force them into every conversation as if the year was a song by Jim Morrison?
https://youtu.be/hIs5StN8J-0
Remember, the pills won't work if you don't take them.
What? I understand your mental health is about as stable as a house of cards in a hurricane, but you seem to have vacated reality. Again.
I never stated that payment upon entering the room is standard practice. Many of the El Centro regulars have posted, and whenever the question comes up. I've always responded that you pay the girl after, not before. The exceptions are all strip clubs and most casas. Where you pay in advance. You pay after at New Life. At Energy I've been asked to pay before (the norm) and been asked to pay after.
However, and I'm paraphrasing the original post which prompted my response, which apparently brought on your most recent psychotic break, certain events require different tactics. The original post presented a situation where:
1. The girl wanted more money for something which is typically included in the base price.
2. The poster suggested he was at risk of losing much more than the agreed upon price if he left without paying.
3. The poster suggested there was a risk of physical violence if he left without paying and that efforts were made to detain him.
In the described situation, you can either agree to pay for the shirt to come off, or accept that you're getting less than expected for the 30-40 k price. And if you're feeling vindictive, you can pull out and blow your load on the shirt. If you're so disgusted by such a reversal, you can tell the girl you won't pay and leave. However, if you want to leave and points 2 and 3 are in play, your best move is to pay the girl and walk out. It's not worth risking everything you have, or risk being attacked over a few dollars.
Never did I assert, suggest or imply that street girls expect to be paid in advance. I'm not sure which "we" you're referring to, because you're the only one afflicted by that particular hallucination.
Sticking with your imaginary "we", I never stated that topless sex should be negotiated for, or anything else. However, in the past I've always asserted that if something is important to you, negotiate for it in advance. That's basic. If you can only eat a steak which is cooked well done, you better be very clear when ordering.
In addition, if something like pay extra for topless starts to be a regular problem then you should address the issue before making the deal. That's simple shit.
Just for the record:
I spent just short of 9 months in Medellin in 2017 (April 9 to December 31) minus 5 days spent in Bogota. In 2018 I spent almost 3 months in Medellin (January 1 to March 28). In 2019, I was only in Medellin for 11 days, although I stayed in a webcam girl's apartment in Sabaneta for free. The same webcam girl has repeatedly offered me free use of her Airbnb in Bogota (sure does suck getting swindled) Add 14 days in 2020 (Covid restrictions canceled my first trip plans). 2021 saw me in Medellin for only 12 days, and in Bogota, quarantined, for 2 weeks. 2022 was different. My first day was in Medellin. The next 5 days were spent in Bahia Solano with a girl from Envigado. Then 3 days in Envigado, 1 day in La Pintada with a girl from Guarne and the last 4 days in Medellin. My 2nd trip of 2022 I spent 3 days in Montelibano (visiting the above mentioned webcam girl) and 11 in Medellin. Between the 2 trips, the girl from Envigado came to visit twice, for 5 days at the end of June and again for 7 weeks in August and September. That's a total of 145 days in Medellin since 2017 and another 20 days elsewhere in Colombia. How does that stack up on the ISG non-ex-pat scale?
And finally, If I'm not that important, why are almost all of your posts either about me, or responding to me? And why are the events of 2017 so crucial to your entire existence that you force them into every conversation as if the year was a song by Jim Morrison?
https://youtu.be/hIs5StN8J-0
Remember, the pills won't work if you don't take them.How did you get swindled?
I was in El Centro during the day, I don't think it's unsafe, lots of local tourists and families. ...The post is not about which one is safer. I think the OP needs to back up his claim first if he is going to ask other to do so. That's all.
You are in a tourist area with police presence. It is different if you go out of that area. There are mny drug users. They live there. There are certain behavior one should avoid in most places, not just El Centro.
Check the hotel reviews for noise complaints.
I am looking to book Hotel dorado la 70 in Laureles, can someone tell me if its chica friendly, also do they register cedula for guests and if I book for 2 person will they ask for additional money to bring girls to your room, I became concerned about security by reading few recent posts about thus issue recently.
Great to see you here again. Stay well and keep that jacuzzi clean when you get it.
With the recent murder accusation of a gringo stuffing a Colombian DJ into a suitcase, I've noticed a lot of girls posting warnings and other shit on their social media. I think now is a good time to be extra diligent about our safety in Medellin / Colombia. They don't seem to be as angry when gringos get found dead in their apartments, but it is what it is. I would guess chicks in need of money might be a little more willing to scope a gringo right now than a week ago. Just do your best to be cautious.
If you think the Paisa prepagos are thieves and provide poor service, try furnishing an apartment. Holy shit it's mind-boggling, some of the stuff that has gone on.
I finally bought a place, and will be getting a jacuzzi at some point. All is good, still having fun and reaping the rewards of living in Paisaland.
Hope all is well. Shoutout to all the Medellin pandemic bros. Those were good times. ISG provided a great outlet for the monotony, boredom, and loneliness.
Slapshot lives.
Cheers.
The post is not about which one is safer. I think the OP needs to back up his claim first if he is going to ask other to do so. That's all.
You are in a tourist area with police presence. It is different if you go out of that area. There are mny drug users. They live there. There are certain behavior one should avoid in most places, not just El Centro.Yes to all of the above. Since Covid and the park construction there are some dark areas around Parque Lleras where you might encounter trouble late at night. Lots of the clubs are gone and the crowds have moved up to Provenza. Now the girls are lined up on Calle 10. Eventually I expect the police to force them off of 10 to someplace less visible.
There are also parts of Poblado, especially towards the north west corner that are not what you might expect to find in Poblado.
No matter where you are, you should be aware.
No one is plotting "against" you, or looking to "score points" against you, as your importance falls way short of such endeavors. You are a guy who was swindled in Medellin for a year back in 2017 by a webcam girl and have spent very little time in the city since. We questioned your assertion that street girls all expect to be paid in advance of any fun. We also questioned your claim that topless sex should as a matter of course be negotiated in advance, while it follows that, if that is true, all sorts of silly details should be settled prior to heading to the room. In response you play the victim, and, delusionally think you are of some great importance in these discussions when you aren't, aside from the obvious deliberate disruptions. Just relax wherever you are and finish out your life.Precise and concise.
How did you get swindled?Swindled is Paulie's term. He's not stable under the best of conditions and my existence antagonizes him. Probably because I'm the only person who tried to be friends with him, but turned my back when he kept going psycho on me. In his twisted way, it's his continuing effort to punish me for leaving him friendless.
A brief synopsis:
2017 I liquidated everything in the US and moved to Medellin, the plan was to be part of a new webcam studio. The studio provided me with a room in a nice apartment, where I only paid for internet and half the utilities. While waiting for the studio to get going I was introduced to Juan Bustos and did some work for him. Juan is a huge deal in the Colombian webcam industry.
After 8 months the new studio didn't exist and the work for Juan wasn't enough to pay my expenses. The boss and I parted ways after I insisted on some compensation for my time. I struggled on for another 4 months before going back to the US and back to work.
The imaginary swindle is based on Paulie's delusions. I took a big gamble without knowing everyone who was in the game. The guy who recruited me didn't profit from me in the long run. His disagreement with me caused my roommate to force him into a much better deal for her and led her to work independently, losing him about half his income. Meanwhile, she remains a solid friend to me. The only thing he swindled out of me was the internet I paid for. However, had I been in my own apartment, my expenses would have quadrupled.
In my opinion, no attempt to swindle me was made. The guy just wasn't up to the task of running a webcam studio. Granted, I spent a year with almost no income and spent $25 k of my own money, but I consider it a fair trade.
For $25 k I took 1 year off from work. I spent 1 year in Colombia. I met a lot of new friends in Colombia. I got a very nice new laptop. I took classes to greatly improve my Spanish. I fucked a lot of Colombian women. I lost 60 pounds and got into good shape. And I got to start over.
Ending up in a big hole sucks. Climbing out of the hole feels great. Filling the hole and then climbing back up the ladder feels fantastic. If I hadn't blindly jumped at the deal I don't know where I would be today. However, I'm thrilled to be where I am now, so I consider the experience to be to my benefit.
I am also guilty of making broad statements without much support. Is El Centro more dangerous than Poblado? I am just stating what a lot of videos on El Centro say and youtubers say but it is not a scientific analysis. I did take a walking tour with a local guide and he also thought that gringos have to be careful walking around El Centro because he thought that there are a lot of bad people hanging around El Centro. There may be more gringos in Poblado and so there might be more robberies of gringos in Poblado based on numbers but the percentage of gringos in El Centro being victims of crime may be higher based on the neighborhood but that is just speculation on my behalf.I think the issue is the original post mentioned targeting gringos. If two guys on a moto want to target gringos, logically speaking, they will go to a target rich location that has good escape route.
DonMedellin
01-30-23, 19:49
I was wondering if any of you have ever been in the same boat as me. Basically, I stayed in Colombia for exactly 180 days in both 2021 and 2022. This means that I have stayed pass 183 days in a rolling 365-day period. Colombia law requires anyone who have stayed pass 183 days in a 365 day period to file taxes in Colombia. This is where I fit into. Has any one you stayed in Colombia pass 183 days in a 365-day period and needed to filed taxes?
I reached out to those gringos I know who live in Colombia year around, they all have filed taxes because they are either married to Colombians, or own properties, or have Colombia based income so they have to file anyways. Since I am a "tourist" who owns nothing in Colombia, their version of "IRS" don't know about me. Do I HAVE TO file?
Hotel Dorado La 70 is chica friendly. Granted, I wasn't bringing in 3 or 4 girls at a time, drunk offmy ass and being a fool. They have a few people at the front desk, and a low level security guard at door entrance from street. It is not a monger heavy establishment, but I had no problems no extra fee, and they seemed to know the routine about checking and copying ID.
Someone else commented about some noise complaints. Well, it is super convenient and right in the heart of restaurants, pubs and clubs, so it comes with the territory. I had no issues unless you are a super light sleeper. A room without balcony and sliding door would probably be quiter. But I requested top floor with balcony. Amazing views and well worth it.
I would add one thing. NO safe on room so better chica proof it or hide things.
I am looking to book Hotel dorado la 70 in Laureles, can someone tell me if its chica friendly, also do they register cedula for guests and if I book for 2 person will they ask for additional money to bring girls to your room, I became concerned about security by reading few recent posts about thus issue recently.
I was wondering if any of you have ever been in the same boat as me. Basically, I stayed in Colombia for exactly 180 days in both 2021 and 2022. This means that I have stayed pass 183 days in a rolling 365-day period. Colombia law requires anyone who have stayed pass 183 days in a 365 day period to file taxes in Colombia. This is where I fit into. Has any one you stayed in Colombia pass 183 days in a 365-day period and needed to filed taxes?
I reached out to those gringos I know who live in Colombia year around, they all have filed taxes because they are either married to Colombians, or own properties, or have Colombia based income so they have to file anyways. Since I am a "tourist" who owns nothing in Colombia, their version of "IRS" don't know about me. Do I HAVE TO file?Highly unlikely DIAN Colombia's "IRS" will come after you to file taxes as you don't even have a Cedula. Basically DIAN doesn't even know you exist and I have never heard of immigration identifying "tourists" who exceeded 183 days in 365 days being tracked down to file taxes.
Hell, I've never even heard of gringos in Colombia on resident / pension visas being tracked down to file taxes for that matter.
I would love to debate some of the hot issues on this website but I am busy trying to arrange girls to come over and have sex with me. This is my first time in Laureles so I will tell you how it compares to Poblado after the trip. There seems to be about a thousand hamburger places here.
I was wondering if any of you have ever been in the same boat as me. Basically, I stayed in Colombia for exactly 180 days in both 2021 and 2022. This means that I have stayed pass 183 days in a rolling 365-day period. Colombia law requires anyone who have stayed pass 183 days in a 365 day period to file taxes in Colombia. This is where I fit into. Has any one you stayed in Colombia pass 183 days in a 365-day period and needed to filed taxes?
I reached out to those gringos I know who live in Colombia year around, they all have filed taxes because they are either married to Colombians, or own properties, or have Colombia based income so they have to file anyways. Since I am a "tourist" who owns nothing in Colombia, their version of "IRS" don't know about me. Do I HAVE TO file?It's not per rolling 365 day period. It's per calendar year and the clock always resets each Jan 1st of each year. You are allowed 180 days total per calendar year.
Precise and concise.Not in any way accurate, but accuracy isn't important to everyone.
Precise and concise.I have a better response, but first a story.
About 15 years ago I took up archery, for fun and to do some hunting. Plus, it's a useful skill in case of zombie attack or if some rednecks in Arkansas are giving you the Ned Beatty treatment (unless you're into that, I'm not judging). I joined a league to make improving more interesting.
There was no chance of me winning. The winner scored 5997 of a possible 6000. Even with my handicap there was no chance. However, due to starting with a high handicap and constant improvement, I finished in a 3 way tie for 2nd, which required 1 more match to finish the placement. 1 guy was an old veteran, probably had been shooting for 40 years. The other was a 12 year old who already had a national sponsor. About halfway through the kid realized he had us both beat and started running his mouth. It didn't matter to me. I would have been thrilled finishing in the top 10.
When there were 2 rounds left it was clear, he would finish 2nd, I'd get 3rd and the old guy 4th. Then he let his mouth take over and put the next 3 shots dead center. He turned to me and said "I bet you can't beat that. " I told him, probably not, but I have to wait until you take your arrows out of my target. " That dropped him to 4th and left me in 2nd.
It doesn't matter how precise you are, if you don't know what you're shooting at.
I'm all in favor of you trying to get in shots on me Bill, although I have no idea why you want to. However, you're not getting anywhere playing cheerleader for Paulie (again if you're into that kind of role play, I'm not judging).
It's not per rolling 365 day period. It's per calendar year and the clock always resets each Jan 1st of each year. You are allowed 180 days total per calendar year.I think technically you are supposed to file taxes if you've stayed 183 days in a ROLLING 365 day period. Specifically the law says that if the 183 days spans multiple calendar years, you will be considered a tax resident for the second year. That said, I highly doubt anyone is going to come tracking you down, especially since you don't have a cedula.
To Gabacho who says it resets every January 1, I do not believe that to be true. The amount of days you can stay in the country in a calendar year resets on Jan 1, which makes sense since the limit is per calendar year. But this is not true with respect to taxes.
Refer here:
https://www.medellinlawyer.com/colombia-personal-tax-declaration/
Out of curiousity, how did you stay in Colombia for an entire year? What type of visa did you have? 25 k investment does not seem like enough for a business visa. In 2017 the exchange rate was not as favorable as it is today.
Swindled is Paulie's term. He's not stable under the best of conditions and my existence antagonizes him. Probably because I'm the only person who tried to be friends with him, but turned my back when he kept going psycho on me. In his twisted way, it's his continuing effort to punish me for leaving him friendless.
A brief synopsis:
2017 I liquidated everything in the US and moved to Medellin, the plan was to be part of a new webcam studio. The studio provided me with a room in a nice apartment, where I only paid for internet and half the utilities. While waiting for the studio to get going I was introduced to Juan Bustos and did some work for him. Juan is a huge deal in the Colombian webcam industry.
After 8 months the new studio didn't exist and the work for Juan wasn't enough to pay my expenses. The boss and I parted ways after I insisted on some compensation for my time. I struggled on for another 4 months before going back to the US and back to work.
The imaginary swindle is based on Paulie's delusions. I took a big gamble without knowing everyone who was in the game. The guy who recruited me didn't profit from me in the long run. His disagreement with me caused my roommate to force him into a much better deal for her and led her to work independently, losing him about half his income. Meanwhile, she remains a solid friend to me. The only thing he swindled out of me was the internet I paid for. However, had I been in my own apartment, my expenses would have quadrupled.
In my opinion, no attempt to swindle me was made. The guy just wasn't up to the task of running a webcam studio. Granted, I spent a year with almost no income and spent $25 k of my own money, but I consider it a fair trade.
For $25 k I took 1 year off from work. I spent 1 year in Colombia. I met a lot of new friends in Colombia. I got a very nice new laptop. I took classes to greatly improve my Spanish. I fucked a lot of Colombian women. I lost 60 pounds and got into good shape. And I got to start over.
Ending up in a big hole sucks. Climbing out of the hole feels great. Filling the hole and then climbing back up the ladder feels fantastic. If I hadn't blindly jumped at the deal I don't know where I would be today. However, I'm thrilled to be where I am now, so I consider the experience to be to my benefit.
Out of curiousity, how did you stay in Colombia for an entire year? What type of visa did you have?....My guess is you can do it with a student visa.
I think technically you are supposed to file taxes if you've stayed 183 days in a ROLLING 365 day period. Specifically the law says that if the 183 days spans multiple calendar years, you will be considered a tax resident for the second year. That said, I highly doubt anyone is going to come tracking you down, especially since you don't have a cedula.
To Gabacho who says it resets every January 1, I do not believe that to be true. The amount of days you can stay in the country in a calendar year resets on Jan 1, which makes sense since the limit is per calendar year. But this is not true with respect to taxes.
Refer here:
https://www.medellinlawyer.com/colombia-personal-tax-declaration/Yea my bad, I misread his question, I was referring to the the 180 days per calendar year that you can stay in the country without a visa, that resets every Jan 1. As far as taxes I really don't know how that works down here.
Hi Moonshot,
One of my favorite restaurants there is Crepes why Wafles, the Chicken and Broccoli crepe is my all time favorite. It pretty popular so you will probably encounter a waiting line. Caduff Pasta Fresca is also a great place with home made pasta. This place is owned by a English speaking European guy, I forgot his name though. Parmessano close to Parque Segundo is also good, usually a wait there too. Ammazza Gin Garden is also really good. La Pampa is an Argentinian steak house that I have been a few times the Baby Beef is really good. Anyway there are hundreds of restaurants there all within walking distance and there is also the food court at the UniCentro mall that has lots of places to eat too.
I would love to debate some of the hot issues on this website but I am busy trying to arrange girls to come over and have sex with me. This is my first time in Laureles so I will tell you how it compares to Poblado after the trip. There seems to be about a thousand hamburger places here.
My guess is you can do it with a student visa.I would be impressed if that were the case, going to school and running a business at the same time is hard.
Out of curiousity, how did you stay in Colombia for an entire year? What type of visa did you have? 25 k investment does not seem like enough for a business visa. In 2017 the exchange rate was not as favorable as it is today.6 months on regular tourist visa, 6 months on student visa.
To qualify for a 6 month student visa you have to prepay for 3 months of classes at an accredited institution. Prepay for 6 classes for a 1 year visa. Cost was about 3. 3 million for 3 Spanish classes at EAFIT. Classes are 5 days per week, 2 hours per day, for 4 weeks. If in Colombia the student visa can only be done at the Migracion office in Bogota.
Once you have any visa, other than the tourist visa, you have to get a cedula de extranjero. You can get that from any Migracion office.
The way it worked out my student visa expired 1 year and 6 days after my initial entry.
I would be impressed if that were the case, going to school and running a business at the same time is hard.Probably pensioners visa?? Isn't jjbee of social security age?
.....About 15 years ago I took up archery, for fun and to do some hunting. Plus, it's a useful skill in case of zombie attack or if some rednecks in Arkansas are giving you the Ned Beatty treatment (unless you're into that, I'm not judging). I joined a league to make improving more interesting.
There was no chance of me winning. The winner scored 5997 of a possible 6000. Even with my handicap there was no chance. However, due to starting with a high handicap and constant improvement, I finished in a 3 way tie for 2nd, which required 1 more match to finish the placement. 1 guy was an old veteran, probably had been shooting for 40 years. The other was a 12 year old who already had a national sponsor. About halfway through the kid realized he had us both beat and started running his mouth. It didn't matter to me. I would have been thrilled finishing in the top 10.
When there were 2 rounds left it was clear, he would finish 2nd, I'd get 3rd and the old guy 4th........I took up archery when I was 15 years old but it involved shooting my penis into a vagina, I used to be able to do 3 rounds but now I usually do 1. Out of a possible 6000 I probably ejaculated in about 5,950.
I took up archery when I was 15 years old but it involved shooting my penis into a vagina, I used to be able to do 3 rounds but now I usually do 1. Out of a possible 6000 I probably ejaculated in about 5,950.Not including all the practice?
Yea my bad, I misread his question, I was referring to the the 180 days per calendar year that you can stay in the country without a visa, that resets every Jan 1. As far as taxes I really don't know how that works down here.Not to quibble with you but there are some tricky situations. That reset word can be problematical.
So, for example, a monger who no longer posts on ISG spent a lot of time in Medellin. He was at 170 days and decided to come on Christmas Eve and planned on staying a month.
Afterall there were only 7 days left in 2021 and January 1 would reset right?? Wrong! He had 8 days which only took him to 178 BUT he had not left the country so his reset didn't start.
Until he exited and reentered the country. In other words, if he had stayed over into 2022 he would have run over the 180 days because the reset didn't occur until his existing entry stamp was matched with an exit stamp. He checked on this and made a two day trip to Panama City to accomplish his exit and then his reentry started the new year and the 180 days limitation.
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Hi Moonshot,
One of my favorite restaurants there is Crepes why Wafles, the Chicken and Broccoli crepe is my all time favorite. It pretty popular so you will probably encounter a waiting line. Caduff Pasta Fresca is also a great place with home made pasta. This place is owned by a English speaking European guy, I forgot his name though. Parmessano close to Parque Segundo is also good, usually a wait there too. Ammazza Gin Garden is also really good. La Pampa is an Argentinian steak house that I have been a few times the Baby Beef is really good. Anyway there are hundreds of restaurants there all within walking distance and there is also the food court at the UniCentro mall that has lots of places to eat too.I have been eating at different places since I arrived last night. Walking around, I definitely see a lot of different options. I look forward to eating at all these different places. And yes last night I was eating some tasty pussy from a 18 year old girl. Definitely more of that every day on my trip!
I would be impressed if that were the case, going to school and running a business at the same time is hard.He probably stayed from June to June. 180 days in one year, and 180 days the next calendar year (Jan 1st is when 180 days rule re-sets).
Nil Admirari
01-31-23, 20:09
I'd be interested in hearing from an El Centro regular who can perhaps clarify if my experience at Barra Ejecutiva was most likely a one-off (a chica trying to rip me off, rather than a sea change in strip club chica pricing).
On my return to Medellin early this month, I've twice had great luck finding a "hidden-gem"/"diamond-in-the-rough" beauty of a chica at Barra Ejecutiva. During many prior visits to the El Centro Clubs (most often Conejitos), I usually have walked out after finding only 3 or 4 marginally "doable" chicas at work, and the rest of the available ladies I wouldn't take to bed even if they paid me. and with the exception of my two "finds" the same proved true at Barra Ejecutiva.
I had great sessions with both of these hot chicas on the premises (good energy, DFK, BBBJ, and with one of them, to my surprise, slipping me in bareback). The 1 hour payment to the club was 250,000 (which seemed a bit steep for an El Centro club compared with what I vaguely recalled from my visit last August / September, but for me acceptable in the context of overall inflation here. I also gave them each a propina for the GFE extras).
Last night I returned to see one of these chicas (the other had returned to Venezuela a few days after I met her). When I asked her to a room, she told me that, since my visit 2 weeks ago, the club manager had raised the 1 hour price to 330,000 (including 30k for the room). While she went to the ladies room, I tried to double-check this pricing with one of the waiters, but he replied that I had to speak to the chica. When my lady friend returned, I attempted o clarify with her whether that was just her new price, or if it was the new charge for all the girls in the joint. With raggaeton blaring from the speakers and my imperfect Spanish, I wasn't sure what she said, but I think she implied that it was an across the board increase. In any event, I took a walk. 330 k to screw in a sleazy joint like Barra Ejecutiva (one stellar feature: the route to a room with your chosen girl, takes you into the men's room and through a hole in the wall of the toilet stall) is incredibly right up there with the going rates at La Isla and Fase II. (The latter now charges 300 k for 45 minutes.).
Can one of you El Centro hands chime in and let us know whether I was being ripped off, or if prices at Barra Ejecutiva (and perhaps elsewhere in El Centro) have really escalated that dramatically since late last year?
Can one of you El Centro hands chime in and let us know whether I was being ripped off, or if prices at Barra Ejecutiva (and perhaps elsewhere in El Centro) have really escalated that dramatically since late last year?Bara Ejec is always the most expenive in Centro. Mostly for drinks though, not for the girls. I think I paid 80.000 when I was last there, but TBH if your asking for 1 hour it would be more. The girls also will try to charge you what they can, even if there is a standard rate. The mesero's response tells you that. I don't go there often enough to help you more. I avoid the place due to the prices. I also avoid Conejitos due to the staff attitude. I like to stand at the bar and have a beer and chat with the girls and the staff. I don't like to be processed like a farm animal.
I had multiple sessions at Barra most recently in mid December. Standard rate seems to be 130 k mill for 30-45 minutes. Drinks are much more expensive than Conejitas but it does seem that you were ripped off.
I'd be interested in hearing from an El Centro regular who can perhaps clarify if my experience at Barra Ejecutiva was most likely a one-off (a chica trying to rip me off, rather than a sea change in strip club chica pricing).
On my return to Medellin early this month, I've twice had great luck finding a "hidden-gem"/"diamond-in-the-rough" beauty of a chica at Barra Ejecutiva. During many prior visits to the El Centro Clubs (most often Conejitos), I usually have walked out after finding only 3 or 4 marginally "doable" chicas at work, and the rest of the available ladies I wouldn't take to bed even if they paid me. and with the exception of my two "finds" the same proved true at Barra Ejecutiva.
I had great sessions with both of these hot chicas on the premises (good energy, DFK, BBBJ, and with one of them, to my surprise, slipping me in bareback). The 1 hour payment to the club was 250,000 (which seemed a bit steep for an El Centro club compared with what I vaguely recalled from my visit last August / September, but for me acceptable in the context of overall inflation here. I also gave them each a propina for the GFE extras).
Mr Enternational
01-31-23, 22:21
I'd be interested in hearing from an El Centro regular who can perhaps clarify if my experience at Barra Ejecutiva was most likely a one-off (a chica trying to rip me off, rather than a sea change in strip club chica pricing)..
I had great sessions with both of these hot chicas on the premises (good energy, DFK, BBBJ, and with one of them, to my surprise, slipping me in bareback). The 1 hour payment to the club was 250,000 (which seemed a bit steep for an El Centro club compared with what I vaguely recalled from my visit last August / September, but for me acceptable in the context of overall inflation here. I also gave them each a propina for the GFE extras).
Last night I returned to see one of these chicas (the other had returned to Venezuela a few days after I met her). When I asked her to a room, she told me that, since my visit 2 weeks ago, the club manager had raised the 1 hour price to 330,000 (including 30k for the room). While she went to the ladies room, I tried to double-check this pricing with one of the waiters, but he replied that I had to speak to the chica. 250? LOL. Like JTK, the last I was in there I paid 80 k. The waiter told you correctly. You have to ask the girl because each girl makes her own price. That is why I have? When people come reporting that the price is a particular thing. You negotiate the price with each individual girl. There is no set price. One thing I can bet is that Colombians are not paying 250 and 330.
Not to quibble with you but there are some tricky situations. That reset word can be problematical.
So, for example, a monger who no longer posts on ISG spent a lot of time in Medellin. He was at 170 days and decided to come on Christmas Eve and planned on staying a month.
Afterall there were only 7 days left in 2021 and January 1 would reset right?? Wrong! He had 8 days which only took him to 178 BUT he had not left the country so his reset didn't start.
Until he exited and reentered the country. In other words, if he had stayed over into 2022 he would have run over the 180 days because the reset didn't occur until his existing entry stamp was matched with an exit stamp. He checked on this and made a two day trip to Panama City to accomplish his exit and then his reentry started the new year and the 180 days limitation.Yes I remember when Osteoknot posted this. The 180 days per calendar year does reset on Jan 1 but not if you are already here before January 1st. You need to leave and then come back in that case. I have also noticed that the 90 day extension (permanencia para prorrogar or whatever it's called) is only required if you stay past 90 days on any one trip such as a whole 180 day block, but if you stay 90 days then leave then come back agn within the same year they give you a brand new 90 days again without having to pay for the extension.
There's a lot of little caveats that migracion Colombia is not really clear about on their website and you just have to learn them thru experience.
Yes to all of the above.
There are also parts of Poblado, especially towards the north west corner that are not what you might expect to find in Poblado.
No matter where you are, you should be aware.Agreed. Close to the river, for example along Avenida Las Vegas near Poblado Station, is much more dangerous than around, say Provenza.
NorthernLight
02-01-23, 02:14
Man, you could make a living by writing articles.
For $25 k I took 1 year off from work. I spent 1 year in Colombia. I met a lot of new friends in Colombia. I got a very nice new laptop. I took classes to greatly improve my Spanish. I fucked a lot of Colombian women. I lost 60 pounds and got into good shape. And I got to start over.
Ending up in a big hole sucks. Climbing out of the hole feels great. Filling the hole and then climbing back up the ladder feels fantastic. If I hadn't blindly jumped at the deal I don't know where I would be today. However, I'm thrilled to be where I am now, so I consider the experience to be to my benefit.
Hi Moonshot,
One of my favorite restaurants there is Crepes why Wafles, the Chicken and Broccoli crepe is my all time favorite. It pretty popular so you will probably encounter a waiting line. Caduff Pasta Fresca is also a great place with home made pasta. This place is owned by a English speaking European guy, I forgot his name though. Parmessano close to Parque Segundo is also good, usually a wait there too. Ammazza Gin Garden is also really good. La Pampa is an Argentinian steak house that I have been a few times the Baby Beef is really good. Anyway there are hundreds of restaurants there all within walking distance and there is also the food court at the UniCentro mall that has lots of places to eat too.For those who don't know, Crepes and Waffles can be found all over, including in many of the malls. If you have no interest in Colombian food, don't want a diet of just hamburgers and pizza, it's a good option. Most people should be able to find something to their liking on the menu.
Probably pensioners visa?? Isn't jjbee of social security age?Not quite there yet, but I'm at the point where I get the senior citizen discount without asking. I just started practicing yelling "get off my lawn", so I'll be ready.
Dcrist0527
02-01-23, 03:10
Swindled is Paulie's term. He's not stable under the best of conditions and my existence antagonizes him. Probably because I'm the only person who tried to be friends with him, but turned my back when he kept going psycho on me. In his twisted way, it's his continuing effort to punish me for leaving him friendless.
A brief synopsis:
2017 I liquidated everything in the US and moved to Medellin, the plan was to be part of a new webcam studio. The studio provided me with a room in a nice apartment, where I only paid for internet and half the utilities. While waiting for the studio to get going I was introduced to Juan Bustos and did some work for him. Juan is a huge deal in the Colombian webcam industry....
However, I'm thrilled to be where I am now, so I consider the experience to be to my benefit.Jjbee, I just want to thank you for sharing. I admire the courage it took to make that leap. Interesting story. And while you might not be more wealthy after it, you are richer from the experience.
He probably stayed from June to June. 180 days in one year, and 180 days the next calendar year (Jan 1st is when 180 days rule re-sets).I'm loving all the speculation, but it was simply done by taking the first 90 on the tourist visa, extending for the 2nd 90 days and then a 6 month student visa.
June to June won't work because you are still required to leave the country to reset the tourist visa.
They changed quite a bit with the different visas a few years ago, so if you're going to be pushing the 180 days, or using the student visa like I did, do some research.
Also, with any of the formal visas (unless this was changed), you're required to submit a letter, in Spanish. I spent a long time searching, because the Migracion website didn't mention anything about what was supposed to be in the letter. It's basically just a statement of financial responsibility stating you'll be responsible for paying your way out of Colombia when your visa expires.
I would love to debate some of the hot issues on this website but I am busy trying to arrange girls to come over and have sex with me. This is my first time in Laureles so I will tell you how it compares to Poblado after the trip. There seems to be about a thousand hamburger places here.LOL that's great, enjoy yourself bro!!
PigSavinBoy
02-01-23, 12:57
I'd be interested in hearing from an El Centro regular who can perhaps clarify if my experience at Barra Ejecutiva was most likely a one-off (a chica trying to rip me off, rather than a sea change in strip club chica pricing).
On my return to Medellin early this month, I've twice had great luck finding a "hidden-gem"/"diamond-in-the-rough" beauty of a chica at Barra Ejecutiva. During many prior visits to the El Centro Clubs (most often Conejitos), I usually have walked out after finding only 3 or 4 marginally "doable" chicas at work, and the rest of the available ladies I wouldn't take to bed even if they paid me. and with the exception of my two "finds" the same proved true at Barra Ejecutiva.
I had great sessions with both of these hot chicas on the premises (good energy, DFK, BBBJ, and with one of them, to my surprise, slipping me in bareback). The 1 hour payment to the club was 250,000 (which seemed a bit steep for an El Centro club compared with what I vaguely recalled from my visit last August / September, but for me acceptable in the context of overall inflation here. I also gave them each a propina for the GFE extras).About 2 weeks ago I was was offered 130 mil, then 100, then 80 mil (same chica). Though it was her that was offering to sell not me asking to buy. Never had a session for 1 h there although I'd actually expect to pay less and get some kind of discount for longer time, like in casas. AFAIK chicas set their own prices so don't buy the BS of 'papi, I would, but it's not allowed here for less than X'.
Hah, yes that walk thorough toilet can be a mood killer. Rooms are quite alright for Centro standards though. I think they hide those backroom entrances a bit since they aren't officially allowed to offer rooms. I remember when one time me and the chica weren't allowed to get out of the backstage at Nueva Avenida because the police was in the club (well we waited back in the prison room and had some unscheduled additional free fun so no complaints really).
For guys bringing girls back to the hotel, the cedula requirement can be an issue. Most hotels require the physical identification card or password. Some girls have lost it and only have a photocopy or only have the online version on the government website. Last night I had dinner for a girl and everything was going well and I had asked her before coming if she had her cedula and she said yes. Well, we go to my hotel and it turns out she only has a photocopy that is not good enough. There was the option of going to a short-term hotel but it was late and I was uncomfortable about it.
And then tomorrow's girl which is today also has a problem. After last night, I've been more thorough in asking if a girl has her physical identification card. The girl said she only had the online government version with a password. There are a few hotels that take it, like on my last trip, but this hotel did not.
When I get back home, I will mention what hotel I am staying in.
There are plenty of other girls to see when one girl does not have her physical identification but it is always a bummer when the girl you want has issues with her identification card. In the daytime, I am more comfortable with short-term hotels and I would be willing to use one if necessary.
There are some guys who advise men not to bring girls back to the hotel due to security concerns. They feel that the short-term hotels are safer when you want to see girls that you really don't know.
if you stay 90 days then leave then come back agn within the same year they give you a brand new 90 days again without having to pay for the extension.
There's a lot of little caveats that migracion Colombia is not really clear about on their website and you just have to learn them thru experience.Yes, plus they can make mistakes. Last year I was here for about 1 month, then left for 5-6 weeks, then came back again on same passport. I extended online and I thought they would have reduced my 90 day extension by the amount of time I had already spent in Colombia on the first visit. Both entry stamps are on the same page of my passport. But no, they extended another 90 days anyway, as if my first visit wasn't included in the total 180 days. And who am I to argue with an immigration official if he / she grants me permission to stay for 210 days in one year? I can only assume they were following the law. They gave my permission to do it anyway.
FlowState985
02-01-23, 17:41
Bara Ejec is always the most expenive in Centro. Mostly for drinks though, not for the girls. I think I paid 80.000 when I was last there, but TBH if your asking for 1 hour it would be more. The girls also will try to charge you what they can, even if there is a standard rate. The mesero's response tells you that. I don't go there often enough to help you more. I avoid the place due to the prices. I also avoid Conejitos due to the staff attitude. I like to stand at the bar and have a beer and chat with the girls and the staff. I don't like to be processed like a farm animal.I like Nueva grill for cheap price, girls and atmosphere. Barra drinks are expensive, I was there two years ago and I believe it was like 18 mil or20 mil for a beer, I don't know what it is now, I haven't been back since I found my favorite spot Nueva.
I go to Conejita too but the girls are lacking, mostly too thick for my liking jaja and BarriorSpinner got charged 150 mil for half for a thin spinner. He also was quoted 150 mil from another spinner a day earlier too. I got similar thin spinner next door beautiful face (her sister wasn't bad either) at Nueva for 70 mil. I'll post report once I am back and got time.
Nil Admirari
02-01-23, 18:14
About 2 weeks ago I was was offered 130 mil, then 100, then 80 mil (same chica). ...JustTK, PigSavinBoy, Mr. Enternational, SteelDH: Thanks one and all for the feedback on pricing at Barra Ejecutiva and other El Centro strip joints, your LOLs notwithstanding. Clearly I was gouged at 250 k, though, as I reported, the chica was a true Diamond-in-the Rough, equivalent to the hottest ladies that I've ever seen at La Isla and Fase II, and it's sometimes hard to argue with Penis Erectus--I was too turned on to easily take a walk, not to mention that the 4 hour viagra meter was due to run out in an hour or so by the time a had arrived there (a mongering hazard for us at the more ancient end of the geezer spectrum). Can't let that major investment in a blue pill go to waste.
Three of you report having paid 80 k at Barra last year (presumably for half an hour) which seems more or less consistent with the 150 k for a full hour that I recall paying last August at Conejitos. One thing that surprises me in a couple of your responses: the implication (if I read you correctly) that at all, or most, strip clubs one has to be prepared to negotiate with the chica for the price of heading to a room together. My experience during visits over the past 4 years to strip clubs here (from the high end ones to the El Centro low), has always been that, one gets a consistent quote (be it for a half hour or an hour) when questioning say a doorman and then double checking his answer with a waiter or cashier--and also that one gets consistent quotes from different chicas as well. And exactly the same rates are quoted if one returns a week or two later. My experience at Barra (of having to negotiate with the chica on the basic "go-to-the-room" rate, as opposed to the BBBJ / DFK extras) was, hopefully, an exception to the rule.
one has to be prepared to negotiate with the chica for the price of heading to a room together. For myself, I am not sure its a total free for all when kit comes to prices. Its just that I get the impression the bar man will let the girls gouge the clients for extra money if she can get away with it. When it comes to negotiating the price, I don't think it takes much work. Just a simple: "no! Its 70 mil" usually does the trick.
On another note, I recently met the nephew of the owner / manager of Barra Ejec. I will ask him about the pricing policy next time I see him.
Jjbee, I just want to thank you for sharing. I admire the courage it took to make that leap. Interesting story. And while you might not be more wealthy after it, you are richer from the experience.Thanks for the vote of confidence. On the financial ladder I had to start back at the bottom rung again. I'm where I was before I made the leap, or a bit higher, but I'm climbing at a faster rate.
Long ago I took a look back at all the mistakes I'd made, the opportunities I missed, the bad decisions and the unlucky breaks. Then I looked at where I was and decided I had no regrets and still have none. Besides, who sits around daydreaming about the year they spent working the same job they've worked for half of their life?
PigSavinBoy
02-01-23, 19:30
the implication (if I read you correctly) that at all, or most, strip clubs one has to be prepared to negotiate with the chica for the price of heading to a room together. My experience during visits over the past 4 years to strip clubs here (from the high end ones to the El Centro low), has always been that, one gets a consistent quote (be it for a half hour or an hour) when questioning say a doorman and then double checking his answer with a waiter or cashier--and also that one gets consistent quotes from different chicas as well. And exactly the same rates are quoted if one returns a week or two later. I guess depends on the club but I think there is kind of price fixing between the chicas, the minimum below which they all agree not to quote, of which number waiters and doormen are aware as well. If she takes less she might be accused of 'ruining the market for all of us' and end up scratched across the face. Also I found a bit strange when several different chicas in Nueva quoted me exactly 150 mil for 1 h in a hotel (not for takeout at that moment but at some unspecified date in the future outside of working hours), they must've all talked and arrive at this price as the standard, no club involved here. Not sure if the club enforces the session price floor but I don't think so, some $ is better then 0 after all (well, at least in centro).
There isn't definitely a cap on the max price hah. Often on busy nights when they have a lot of potential customers to pick from they do try to quote a bit higher too.
In my experience, other than drink prices and room cost (which club charges chica) it's all up for negotiation though.
The difficult trick is not to appear too thirsty when negotiating, which can be difficult with smoking hot chica, limited time and a hardon (they do often mouse around down there to check the customer' real interest level LOL). Knowing the standard market price helps of course as well.
FlowState985
02-01-23, 19:54
JustTK, PigSavinBoy, Mr. Enternational, SteelDH: Three of you report having paid 80 k at Barra last year (presumably for half an hour) which seems more or less consistent with the 150 k for a full hour that I recall paying last August at Conejitos. One thing that surprises me in a couple of your responses: the implication (if I read you correctly) that at all, or most, strip clubs one has to be prepared to negotiate with the chica for the price of heading to a room together. My experience during visits over the past 4 years to strip clubs here (from the high end ones to the El Centro low), has always been that, one gets a consistent quote (be it for a half hour or an hour) when questioning say a doorman and then double checking his answer with a waiter or cashier--and also that one gets consistent quotes from different chicas as well. And exactly the same rates are quoted if one returns a week or two later. My experience at Barra (of having to negotiate with the chica on the basic "go-to-the-room" rate, as opposed to the BBBJ / DFK extras) was, hopefully, an exception to the rule.The rate of the guys reported here probably in half hour range. If your rate is 1 HR plus BBBJ and sometime BBFS, then maybe it is justified for 250 mil at barra. Most / majority of girl wants 50 mil and up for BBBJ and other additional services. So assuming 150 mil for an HR at Barra plus 50 mil for BBBJ, besos, etc. , then you are getting close to 250 mil which was what you paid.
... then you are getting close to 250 mil which was what you paid.Unless the bar has pivoted to serve only gringos. It is hard to image that most their local clients can pay that price. This bar is like this since several years ago but it was always in 100 mil range. This is the first time that I heard of over 200 mil.
You can have a part time maid for a full day for 80 mil and that is already not a bad pay. That implies a local man will need to work 3 days to afford to have a session.
Agreed. Close to the river, for example along Avenida Las Vegas near Poblado Station, is much more dangerous than around, say Provenza.A reminder. It's from Medellin Expats FB group
FlappyGilmore0
02-02-23, 03:34
Dudes have to look out for themselves. What are guys doing walking in a park on the outskirts of Poblado at 9 pm? You'd barely walk through central park at that time.
A reminder. It's from Medellin Expats FB group
Dudes have to look out for themselves. What are guys doing walking in a park on the outskirts of Poblado at 9 pm? You'd barely walk through central park at that time.Well, when I live in some other countries, I can go anywhere I want. What's wrong with that? It's just a reminder so people can stay safe.
I personally went to that area over the river many times on both bridges. One has a large skate park with some street food until late night. The other also has several street food stalls under the bridge but they are mostly for dinner. I like to walk to explore, and I know I am not the only one. Sex is not my first priority.
That's not the outskirts of anything. But yeah, best to avoid at night for sure.
Dudes have to look out for themselves. What are guys doing walking in a park on the outskirts of Poblado at 9 pm? You'd barely walk through central park at that time.
It's been 2 weeks since my trip to Medellin. When I got back to the USA I was on a little bender, back in the usual strip clubs and seeing the regular below average chicks in my area. Kind of depressing. Is it wrong of me to be missing Colombia and these 2 chicas? God they were so amazing.
Anthony2023
02-02-23, 21:12
It's been 2 weeks since my trip to Medellin. When I got back to the USA I was on a little bender, back in the usual strip clubs and seeing the regular below average chicks in my area. Kind of depressing. Is it wrong of me to be missing Colombia and these 2 chicas? God they were so amazing.I would say it's not wrong but you should probably get your priorities in check and focus more on your goals. I just got back from Colombia about a week ago as well and to be honest ever since I've started the hobby during my travels I really have no interest in it when I'm back in the states. I mostly just focus on work and goals and only go out when I'm out of town. It's worked out great for me but yes I miss Colombia too already, should of stayed longer but I'm already planning to go back in a couple months.
It's been 2 weeks since my trip to Medellin. When I got back to the USA I was on a little bender, back in the usual strip clubs and seeing the regular below average chicks in my area. Kind of depressing. Is it wrong of me to be missing Colombia and these 2 chicas? God they were so amazing.It is definitely a different experience and you find yourself missing it as soon as you are on that plane. I am still here on vacation and I just had a wonderful experience with a sexy 19 year old girl. I would miss her except that I have another girl coming in 4 hours.
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02-03-23, 01:51
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Anthony2023
02-03-23, 03:42
It is definitely a different experience and you find yourself missing it as soon as you are on that plane. I am still here on vacation and I just had a wonderful experience with a sexy 19 year old girl. I would miss her except that I have another girl coming in 4 hours.The last girl I hooked up with was also 19 to my surprise, I thought she was older but it was a facebook meet up last minute so I didn't really talk to her much before I hit her up to meet me up in provenza, I just messaged her I would give her 250 k for dinner and sex after, didn't care if she would accept or not and didn't even think she was going to show but she did. To be honest it wasn't really my cup of tea. She was cute, nice slim figure, soft skin, about 5'7 I would rate a 7-8, but I prefer 24-29 age range. She was a bit shy but liked my physique when I took my shirt off. So she got into it and she was nice in bed and got super wet like I remember 19 yr olds getting. I'm mid 30's idk how some of you older guys are comfortable with 19 yr olds but to each his own.
The last girl I hooked up with was also 19 to my surprise, I thought she was older but it was a facebook meet up last minute so I didn't really talk to her much before I hit her up to meet me up in provenza, I just messaged her I would give her 250 k for dinner and sex after, didn't care if she would accept or not and didn't even think she was going to show but she did. To be honest it wasn't really my cup of tea. She was cute, nice slim figure, soft skin, about 5'7 I would rate a 7-8, but I prefer 24-29 age range. She was a bit shy but liked my physique when I took my shirt off. So she got into it and she was nice in bed and got super wet like I remember 19 yr olds getting. I'm mid 30's idk how some of you older guys are comfortable with 19 yr olds but to each his own.It takes years of practice for old men to feel comfortable with women young enough to be their granddaughters. Jajaja. I'm now in my late 50's and I'm quite at ease with girls who are 18 to 19 years old and it feels quite normal. This also makes the girls feel at ease. These girls are not looking for a boyfriends, they are looking to make some extra money and old guys have money.
DonMedellin
02-03-23, 17:47
A reminder. It's from Medellin Expats FB groupI used to live right above that park. I was sharing an apartment with two friends. One night one of them was robbed by two guys with knifes so we became very careful on when we can walk through the park. It is not too bad during the day because there are light foot traffic and locals hangout in the park. After dark, avoid at all cost.
It takes years of practice for old men to feel comfortable with women young enough to be their granddaughters. Jajaja.I usually sit them on my knee and offer them some chocolate if they come back to do their homework in my apartment.
I would say it's not wrong but you should probably get your priorities in check and focus more on your goals. I just got back from Colombia about a week ago as well and to be honest ever since I've started the hobby during my travels I really have no interest in it when I'm back in the states. I mostly just focus on work and goals and only go out when I'm out of town. It's worked out great for me but yes I miss Colombia too already, should of stayed longer but I'm already planning to go back in a couple months.Well, I'm not going to say I've totally made it, but I'm in my late 40's and I've done pretty well the past 5-6 years. Well enough I could potentially retire in 4-5 more years if I really want to. But I run my own business so I'd probably be bored if I did retire and will just keep it rolling. Anyway I was half joking, I do miss Colombia and definitely those 2 were fucking incredible, but I also know that the chances I'll ever see them again are slim and none. Love that I found this forum tho. Helps me live vicariously thru my fellow, so keep posting those reports!
Captain Solo
02-03-23, 19:09
I walked the streets North of Poblado, past parks with homeless people living among the shrubs. The stench of human waste was horrible. They were calling out to me to give them money. I sped up and got to the business street with stores.
Crime risks are just about everywhere in Medellin, even in crowded areas in daytime. The crowd would unlikely assist victims. An UBER driver drove me around El Centro at night to see the reality of extreme poverty, said even policias are afraid to go there at night. Even in the day time it was hard to grab a taxi or Uber from El Centro. Areas surrounding Botero Plaza are bustling with shops, restaurants vendor and shoppers, but are completely pitch black like hell after dark, all businesses locked up, noone walking the streets, only filthy homeless people scurrying around in the dark like rats. A couple streets near Plaza Botero were pitch black, filled with huge piles of garbage, people currying around, sorting through them. There were no cars, no traffic in El Centro after dark.
OTOH areas South near Santa Fe mall was very nice, clean, green, classy. I walked up and down Ave Poblado at night many times, beautiful boulevard, very few pedestrians, lots of cars, did not feel threatened Also took a long walk from Santa Fe Mall to Parque Lleras in day time. Streets and nice homes were beautifully landscaped with large varieties of lush green tropical plants, nice, clean, green, quiet, classy neighborhoods. I could live there with hot Colombianas, having passionate sex in that verdant tropical jungle.
BTW the fancy Andres Carne de Rez steak house on Ave Poblado is huge, very nice, but the rib eyes and Tbone were dry and tough, I could not through with a steak knife or chew through it, had to abandon after a couple bites. Same problem with the other famous steakhouses in El Centro, bland and very tough steaks. Looks like they butcher very old, worn out bovines. Went to the Italian chain restaurant inside Santa Fe mall, got really juicy, tender rib eyes.
It takes years of practice for old men to feel comfortable with women young enough to be their granddaughters. Jajaja. I'm now in my late 50's and I'm quite at ease with girls who are 18 to 19 years old and it feels quite normal. This also makes the girls feel at ease. These girls are not looking for a boyfriends, they are looking to make some extra money and old guys have money.Naw. It just takes years of practice to become old.
Anthony2023
02-03-23, 23:17
Crime risks are just about everywhere in Medellin, even in crowded areas in daytime. The crowd would unlikely assist victims. An UBER driver drove me around El Centro at night to see the reality of extreme poverty, said even policias are afraid to go there at night. Even in the day time it was hard to grab a taxi or Uber from El Centro. Areas surrounding Botero Plaza are bustling with shops, restaurants vendor and shoppers, but are completely pitch black like hell after dark, all businesses locked up, noone walking the streets, only filthy homeless people scurrying around in the dark like rats. A couple streets near Plaza Botero were pitch black, filled with huge piles of garbage, people currying around, sorting through them. There were no cars, no traffic in El Centro after dark.
OTOH areas South near Santa Fe mall was very nice, clean, green, classy. I walked up and down Ave Poblado at night many times, beautiful boulevard, very few pedestrians, lots of cars, did not feel threatened Also took a long walk from Santa Fe Mall to Parque Lleras in day time. Streets and nice homes were beautifully landscaped with large varieties of lush green tropical plants, nice, clean, green, quiet, classy neighborhoods. I could live there with hot Colombianas, having passionate sex in that verdant tropical jungle.
BTW the fancy Andres Carne de Rez steak house on Ave Poblado is huge, very nice, but the rib eyes and Tbone were dry and tough, I could not through with a steak knife or chew through it, had to abandon after a couple bites. Same problem with the other famous steakhouses in El Centro, bland and very tough steaks. Looks like they butcher very old, worn out bovines. Went to the Italian chain restaurant inside Santa Fe mall, got really juicy, tender rib eyes.Didn't get to venture in el centro not even during the day to see what it was like. Only drove past it on the way to comuna 13 your.
Andres de res isn't really fancy. Took a hot date there on a Saturday night. Good entertainment dinner and show but the steak wasn't that good like you said. Drinks were ok.
Elvis 2008
02-04-23, 01:43
BTW the fancy Andres Carne de Rez steak house on Ave Poblado is huge, very nice, but the rib eyes and Tbone were dry and tough, I could not through with a steak knife or chew through it, had to abandon after a couple bites. Same problem with the other famous steakhouses in El Centro, bland and very tough steaks. Looks like they butcher very old, worn out bovines. Went to the Italian chain restaurant inside Santa Fe mall, got really juicy, tender rib eyes.For whatever reason, yeah, the steaks in Colombia are tough. I am not sure if they tenderize them enough or what. I went to a place last night and finally had one that was not tough.
I walked the streets North of Poblado, past parks with homeless people living among the shrubs. The stench of human waste was horrible. They were calling out to me to give them money.
Next time ur sat in a nice restaurant, discomforted by the poverty, I hope you pause before your next mouthful to consider why it is this way. Capitalism. Its baked in to the system.
It takes years of practice for old men to feel comfortable with women young enough to be their granddaughters. Jajaja. I'm now in my late 50's and I'm quite at ease with girls who are 18 to 19 years old and it feels quite normal. This also makes the girls feel at ease. These girls are not looking for a boyfriends, they are looking to make some extra money and old guys have money.Also we tend to be calmer, LOL prolly only be one shot and generally less prone to assholery. If they are in it for the money they are fine with it. That being said I like them a little older because they tend to be better lovers but what can I say. Sometimes there's no substitute for hot young and tight.
Next time ur sat in a nice restaurant, discomforted by the poverty, I hope you pause before your next mouthful to consider why it is this way. Capitalism. Its baked in to the system.As if you are out there passing out food to the same people he is referring to. What a clown post.
It takes years of practice for old men to feel comfortable with women young enough to be their granddaughters. Jajaja. I'm now in my late 50's and I'm quite at ease with girls who are 18 to 19 years old and it feels quite normal. This also makes the girls feel at ease. These girls are not looking for a boyfriends, they are looking to make some extra money and old guys have money.Curious to know why does it take years of practice to feel comfortable with young women?
I would think it just takes money, the more the better.
GeneHickman
02-04-23, 11:41
Next time ur sat in a nice restaurant, discomforted by the poverty, I hope you pause before your next mouthful to consider why it is this way. Capitalism. Its baked in to the system.You got a problem with meritocracy?
Curious to know why does it take years of practice to feel comfortable with young women?
I would think it just takes money, the more the better.It is not normal in Western society for men in their upper 50's and above to be with young women 18-20 years old and most developed countries see this as sick and disgusting. A number of these men have grandchildren of that age. So there is sometimes discomfort being with women so young relative to their age. Also there is generational differences so that an older man is unable to relate to such a young woman.
But actually it was meant as a joke. .
For whatever reason, yeah, the steaks in Colombia are tough. I am not sure if they tenderize them enough or what. I went to a place last night and finally had one that was not tough.There is one restaurant in Buenas Aires cut steak with spoon.
The last girl I hooked up with was also 19 to my surprise, I thought she was older but it was a facebook meet up last minute so I didn't really talk to her much before I hit her up to meet me up in provenza, I just messaged her I would give her 250 k for dinner and sex after, didn't care if she would accept or not and didn't even think she was going to show but she did. To be honest it wasn't really my cup of tea. She was cute, nice slim figure, soft skin, about 5'7 I would rate a 7-8, but I prefer 24-29 age range. She was a bit shy but liked my physique when I took my shirt off. So she got into it and she was nice in bed and got super wet like I remember 19 yr olds getting. I'm mid 30's idk how some of you older guys are comfortable with 19 yr olds but to each his own.Last time I was in Brazil I went to a smaller terma for the first time. I see this sexy girl in her bikini with no client. She just turned 18. It's times like this I remind myself how much I love the hobby. Anyway we went to the room and she could Deepthroat and do anal. She was already a pro at 18. I was 30 years older than her.
As if you are out there passing out food to the same people he is referring to. What a clown post.Black and white fallacy. The clown unfortunately is your post.
You got a problem with meritocracy?NP w meritcracy. Just have a problem with exploitation and prejudice. We don't live in a meritocracy. We live in a world of favourtiism and cronyism.
It takes years of practice for old men to feel comfortable with women young enough to be their granddaughters. Jajaja. I'm now in my late 50's and I'm quite at ease with girls who are 18 to 19 years old and it feels quite normal. This also makes the girls feel at ease. These girls are not looking for a boyfriends, they are looking to make some extra money and old guys have money.Old men who feel uncomfortable with women young enough to be their grand daughters worry about what others think. I am in my late sixties and fortunately I do not fall into that category and would not have such a problem when I get old.
policias are afraid to go there at nigh.Plenty of police en el centro day and night. Don't go alone at night if you look obvious gringo. I went with a colombian friend plenty of times, no issues.
Cheap and very tender steaks at Las Pampas, is a chain but very good steak.
Captain Solo
02-04-23, 19:54
Unfortunately BS As is kind of far from Colombia.
Your pic shows a rib eye roast. Mr. Pampas in Tijuana would push around a cart with a huge rib eye roast with a big fat cap. It's so tender you can cut it with a spoon.
Plenty of police en el centro day and night..The whole plaza area is now fenced off and one must pass thru one of 3 police checkpoints to enter. Its an initiiative to clear the disorder from one of the main tousit centres of MDE.
Mr Enternational
02-04-23, 20:53
It is not normal in Western society for men in their upper 50's and above to be with young women 18-20 years old and most developed countries see this as sick and disgusting.
Last time I was in Brazil I went to a smaller terma for the first time. I see this sexy girl in her bikini with no client. She just turned 18. It's times like this I remind myself how much I love the hobby. Regardless, it is still an arbitrary number. Saying you like chicks at the minimum limit set by a particular community is like Chris Rock said, if they would let me go lower, then I would. The number in my state is 2 years less than that, but I am not up at the school behind the trees rubbing my hands and waiting for somebody to turn that age. Not my thing at all; has nothing to do with western society.
Anthony2023
02-04-23, 21:29
Last time I was in Brazil I went to a smaller terma for the first time. I see this sexy girl in her bikini with no client. She just turned 18. It's times like this I remind myself how much I love the hobby. Anyway we went to the room and she could Deepthroat and do anal. She was already a pro at 18. I was 30 years older than her.Tell me more about these termas, I'm thinking about a Brazil trip in the near future. I.
When I see the word terma I think a club, kind of dark inside, or like a sauna with plenty of thick big butt Brazilians who love anal. Is that accurate or I'm I way off?
Yes, well we've seen most of this movie before. What is different this time is in addition to yet another temporary (as they all have been) security barrier the police are banning motorcycles, roving vendors, and high speed bicycle riding. All things that made visiting the plaza annoying and dangerous for tourists. Also restricted to areas outside the barrier are street girls. They are still accessible to us but not within the temporary barrier. I describe the barrier as temporary because of the history of these political stunts of Mayor Quintero. Most recently, the 6-foot plus high fence with concrete anchors he had erected was gradually dismantled by the night crawlers and sold as scrap in Prado. This latest barrier is much less sturdy and and much more portable. It is buttressed by plastic wrap. Just today a saw a guy slip through a fresh gap in the barrier. A policewoman who was keeping watch over that section between controlled entry points yelled at him to come back and go through the checkpoint entrance. He ignored her and dialed a call on his mobile phone. I'm not sure whether he was pretending not to hear her. She ran over to him in front of the church and tapped him on the shoulder. After a short conversation she sent him on his way. I can't believe any reasonable person thinks this latest barrier will last even as long as the last one. One of the many older Colombian guys who hang around the plaza told me Quintero was due to make an appearance in the plaza today. Sure enough, when I checked my Twitter feed, there he was tweeting about "recovering" the plaza. His tweet included photos of the checkpoints and a confiscated butcher knife. Quintero likely felt pressure after a Dominican politician who visited Botero Plaza with her family during her Christmas vacation was robbed. As other Centro rats know, most of the girls did not work within the now closed off area. Now that those who used to have to join all the others around and behind the church it only makes them easier to engage.
The whole plaza area is now fenced off and one must pass thru one of 3 police checkpoints to enter. Its an initiiative to clear the disorder from one of the main tousit centres of MDE.
Curious to know why does it take years of practice to feel comfortable with young women?
I would think it just takes money, the more the better.It depends on your location.
An old man with a young woman will be stared at, despised, scorned, and scoffed at in public in a developed country. It's also harder to find younger women willing to date older men and if you do find one it would be more expensive (compared to developing countries). You would have to be comfortable with the new negative attention.
But an old man with a young woman won't even raise a single eyebrow in a developing country. You can find them a dime a dozen and they're affordable. I remember being in the Dominican Republic and this old guy had not one, but two, beautiful women with him and it reminded me how awesome this hobby was.
1. Parque Lleras is still closed. It has already been a year. At the slow rate of progress, it looked to me like they were at least two months from finish. That wold mean April.
2. Since the park is closed, most of the girls were on Calle 10.
3. The majority of the girls around LLeras were Venezuelan.
4. I stayed one night in Hotel Dix. It allowed Columbian visitors, but not Venezuelan visitors (unless they had Columbian identification).
5. Every girl asked for tres cientos mill (300,0000) and settled quick and easy for dos cientos mil (200,000).
Tell me more about these termas, I'm thinking about a Brazil trip in the near future. I.
When I see the word terma I think a club, kind of dark inside, or like a sauna with plenty of thick big butt Brazilians who love anal. Is that accurate or I'm I way off?This particular terma was called MV 30. It's a seedier place not as high end as the top 3 but not awful by any means. I was shocked to see this chick with no client. You could bounce a feather off her ass. I lost her number for next trip. I'll see if she is there when I go back.
It depends on your location.
An old man with a young woman will be stared at, despised, scorned, and scoffed at in public in a developed country. It's also harder to find younger women willing to date older men and if you do find one it would be more expensive (compared to developing countries). You would have to be comfortable with the new negative attention.
But an old man with a young woman won't even raise a single eyebrow in a developing country. You can find them a dime a dozen and they're affordable. I remember being in the Dominican Republic and this old guy had not one, but two, beautiful women with him and it reminded me how awesome this hobby was.I went to 24 hour fitness to swim today and they had a couple older chicks in there. I wanted to puke. I can't be with old women. 18 to 29 for life.
An old man with a young woman will be stared at, despised, scorned, and scoffed at in public in a developed country.I am guessing you have never been to France.
Or Geneva.
I am guessing you have never been to France.
Planning a month long trip to Medellin and I'm interested in high end Casas that cater more to locals with money.
I'm fully fluent in Spanish and really curious about one particular place that supposedly operates almost like a Brazilian Steak house? LOL. Supposedly you are seated in a nice restaurant type venue where the talent arrive one by only a a robe for them to show you all their goods before the next one comes in. I keep hearing there are several discreet venues like this in Medallo. Any one know of such places?
I'd appreciate any info or PMs.
BarrioSpinners
02-06-23, 00:37
As other Centro rats know, most of the girls did not work within the now closed off area. Now that those who used to have to join all the others around and behind the church it only makes them easier to engage.Yesterday they were all packed togheter down at the intersation but the less skanky manage to pass the barrier.
Lololol balls of steel to walk around the states with a chick 40 years younger than you. God bless you.Why? There's no law against walking around with a girl 20 years younger. Worst case scenario someone makes a rude comment, although that's unlikely. Nasty looks just get a big smile and "have a great day. ".
Planning a month long trip to Medellin and I'm interested in high end Casas that cater more to locals with money.
I'm fully fluent in Spanish and really curious about one particular place that supposedly operates almost like a Brazilian Steak house? LOL. Supposedly you are seated in a nice restaurant type venue where the talent arrive one by only a a robe for them to show you all their goods before the next one comes in. I keep hearing there are several discreet venues like this in Medallo. Any one know of such places?
I'd appreciate any info or PMs.In Medellin, yep. Energy / Fantasias is in a classic old house, and your description fits how they do it. The chicas introduce themselves, each has a number on their robe. And at the end you make your choice. It is run like a casa, but a higher price point than the centro casas. Located in Estadio area.
High end mansions and casas in Medellin.Loutron, it's higher price than average but I won't call it high end.
Mr Enternational
02-06-23, 18:01
How difficult was it to get a visa for your girl?
My Thai GF is 26. I'm 60 but look 50. I live in the US.What do you mean difficult to get a visa? What is the difficulty in it? You fill out the application and pay the money and turn in the required paperwork at the interview and they tell you yes or no. Either you qualify and are approved or you are not qualified and denied.
BTW the fancy Andres Carne de Rez steak house on Ave Poblado is huge, very nice, but the rib eyes and Tbone were dry and tough, I could not through with a steak knife or chew through it, had to abandon after a couple bites. Same problem with the other famous steakhouses in El Centro, bland and very tough steaks. Looks like they butcher very old, worn out bovines. Went to the Italian chain restaurant inside Santa Fe mall, got really juicy, tender rib eyes.Andres sucks. I've had plenty of steaks in Medellin and none of them are like the shoe leather you'll get at Andres.
PigSavinBoy
02-06-23, 20:34
Have you seen a 20 yr guy making out with a 60 yr old woman in public? Thank god, I haven't, because it would be disgusting to see (but totally legal). This is no different from a young girl who graduated high school just a couple of years ago making out with a grandpa in public.60 yo woman is not fertile anymore so it's unnatural and pointless. 60 yo man + 20 yo woman are both fertile (presumably) so nothing wrong with that.
How difficult was it to get a visa for your girl?
My Thai GF is 26. I'm 60 but look 50. I live in the US.It wasn't difficult at all. She already had her visa. The current waiting list to get an appointment to get a tourist visa at the US Embassy in Bogota is close to 2 years.
OnePocketWill
02-06-23, 20:59
1. Parque Lleras is still closed. It has already been a year. At the slow rate of progress, it looked to me like they were at least two months from finish. That wold mean April.
2. Since the park is closed, most of the girls were on Calle 10.
3. The majority of the girls around LLeras were Venezuelan.
4. I stayed one night in Hotel Dix. It allowed Columbian visitors, but not Venezuelan visitors (unless they had Columbian identification).
5. Every girl asked for tres cientos mill (300,0000) and settled quick and easy for dos cientos mil (200,000).Let's make sure everyone understands the park is being remodeled yes! But everything around is open and girls all around etc. It's not closed!
You would think so, but that was not my experience.
Last summer my Colombian girlfriend came to the US to visit me, right in the Bible belt. The first time was for 5 days, the second time she stayed for 7 weeks.
We stayed in hotels together, went to a theme park, a baseball game and other tourist attractions. Went to malls, stores and restaurants, even to my favorite small town diner. I introduced her to most of my family and even my landlady, who has a daughter the same age. The only bad look we got was from a Walmart greeter. Granted, 1 of my sisters refused to answer the door when we showed up, but she's a hardcore racist. Everyone else treated us just fine. A few older women even made a point of saying how beautiful she was.
I'm 60 and she's 20.
However, I'm completely comfortable with it. If I was worried what others would think it might have changed the way others reacted to us.In the America that I know, which is big cities, it would attract a lot of attention and a lot of scorn and negative comments. It is not a normal age gap for America and it does attract a lot of disgust. It also attracts a large number of young fit men with game gravitating towards your girl and trying to hit on her. I always thought that the Bible belt cities were even more judgmental but perhaps I am wrong. If that is the reaction in your city and she is still with you all the more power to you bro. To get a visitor visa for your girl to visit the United States is even more impressive if true.
OnePocketWill
02-06-23, 21:02
For whatever reason, yeah, the steaks in Colombia are tough. I am not sure if they tenderize them enough or what. I went to a place last night and finally had one that was not tough.I think what is happening because I have had friends with same experiences is it's the type you are choosing. At Andres you order the Llomo el trapo! It's amazing and better than most I get in the USA. (Stipulation I live in the Midwest but don't buy $100 steaks either) but my friends ordered the tomahawk and they ended up moving my steak! I have been to other steak places here and imo wasn't as good. So I think it's all opinions but try that out. Ask locals what they think or what's the best.
Lololol balls of steel to walk around the states with a chick 40 years younger than you. God bless you.In the States its all about envy and jealousy. The men give angry looks because they are married to whales while the women are irked because they feel you should date women closer to your own age....like them.
Don Diablo has a good reputation.
Andres sucks. I've had plenty of steaks in Medellin and none of them are like the shoe leather you'll get at Andres.
RamDavidson84
02-07-23, 00:00
Why? There's no law against walking around with a girl 20 years younger. Worst case scenario someone makes a rude comment, although that's unlikely. Nasty looks just get a big smile and "have a great day. ".You said 40 years, not 20. Even 20 is kinda pushing it for USA. Going out in public and balling out with a chick who is 40 years younger than you is awesome and I love reading it and would get a kick out of seeing it, but it would really irk the hell out of everyone who sees you two show affection in public. I am sure you would get the death looks and whispers of "grooming" and "sugar daddy". Like you state though, I am sure you could care less about that shit with a hot young thing on your arm.
#1 Rule of monger-life. There is what a man can do, and a man can't do.
Thank god a man with cash can always find some good looking female company, no matter his age.
Right on Bro.
I know quite a few girls that prefer the older guys to the young bucks for quite a few reasons. What it comes down to is communication, attitude, maturity and respect. My Girfriends either really enjoy their time with me if not they should be in line for an Oscar. Being in my 60's I have been known to play around with all ages (I do not like to descriminate although women 25-35 years old seem to be the sweetspot for me). Yeah, I know they are with me for my money and I am paying them for their services but we all are having a good time. The same thing that goes for the guys in their 30's they are with you for the money too so don't think your special.
You would think so, but that was not my experience.
Last summer my Colombian girlfriend came to the US to visit me, right in the Bible belt. The first time was for 5 days, the second time she stayed for 7 weeks.
We stayed in hotels together, went to a theme park, a baseball game and other tourist attractions. Went to malls, stores and restaurants, even to my favorite small town diner. I introduced her to most of my family and even my landlady, who has a daughter the same age. The only bad look we got was from a Walmart greeter. Granted, 1 of my sisters refused to answer the door when we showed up, but she's a hardcore racist. Everyone else treated us just fine. A few older women even made a point of saying how beautiful she was.
I'm 60 and she's 20.
However, I'm completely comfortable with it. If I was worried what others would think it might have changed the way others reacted to us.
Right on Bro.
I know quite a few girls that prefer the older guys to the young bucks for quite a few reasons. What it comes down to is communication, attitude, maturity and respect. My Girfriends either really enjoy their time with me if not they should be in line for an Oscar. Being in my 60's I have been known to play around with all ages (I do not like to descriminate although women 25-35 years old seem to be the sweetspot for me). Yeah, I know they are with me for my money and I am paying them for their services but we all are having a good time. The same thing that goes for the guys in their 30's they are with you for the money too so don't think your special.They don't love the older guys per se, they like the money that older guys have. Stop paying and see how long your "relationship" will last.
Up to 12-15 yr age gap is acceptable, because you are technically, the same generation. 20-25 yr gap, or 40 yr gap is too wide.
In the States its all about envy and jealousy. The men give angry looks because they are married to whales while the women are irked because they feel you should date women closer to your own age....like them.It's not just about jealousy or envy, but pure anger as well. Several years ago a woman told me that I was somebody who she saw as being with younger women, and that pissed her off to no end. I didn't even really "know" this woman as she was more of an acquaintance. At the time we were thinking about "getting to know each other better", but it never happened. The thing is that I'm not sexually attracted to most women my age (not all but most), and I suppose this can be said to be one of the negative "side effects" of mongering. I've never "adjusted" to being with women in my age cohort. And at this point in time, I don't ever intend to. I'll just keep fucking what I like to fuck until for whatever reason I can't anymore, and then I'll just stop fucking. Young, pretty blondes (brunettes and redheads too) forever: https://quatroporquatroclass.com.br/us/perfil/vitoria!
PigSavinBoy
02-07-23, 00:39
What does a few extra years matter?
I like them older
The kind they call senor Mayores by Becky G.
Been to this place today and have a very bad experience, they are money grabbers specially scamming foreigners, I took a girl there, first of all her butt we smelling pop and it turns me off immediately I kindly ask her to take shower, secondly when I try to touch her boobs she say no as even touching them heart her and I was thinking how I can have sex with her without touching boobs then I try to touch her body and she again say no as she feel tickles when I do it, I was pissed off at that time lastly I try to kiss her on face and she again say no I don't like it, her attitude was as she was not interested in sex at all and just killing time, how someone can have sex without touching body, boobs and kissing? My mode was off till that time but the last thing she does which completely make me mad was after 30 minutes she start telling me time is over, I have actually taken a screenshot when I enter the room and showed her its only 30 min first she don't accept but when I insist she agree to stay more but I myself left room in 40 minutes because it was pure torture, I go downstairs and tell the manager all the story and the response of the manager was we will not refund you, I say wait a minute when I ask for a refund, instead of asking the girl what the issue is and saying sorry you are telling me no refund.
So guys' there money hungry moron are there just to grab your money, their conversation start with money and end on money, we go these to relax and a couple of dollars are not a big deal but the mindset of the people at this place is criminal.
Anthony2023
02-07-23, 01:50
They don't love the older guys per se, they like the money that older guys have. Stop paying and see how long your "relationship" will last.
Up to 12-15 yr age gap is acceptable, because you are technically, the same generation. 20-25 yr gap, or 40 yr gap is too wide.The last chick I hooked with on my trip to my surprise was 19 years old, I'm 35 and even at my age I low key felt uncomfortable walking around with her in provenza, like I said I don't know how guys in their 50's and 60's are comfortable with that, I would assume most people might think they are walking around with their grand daughter.
I actually felt a little embarrassed and shame with the security guys at my airbnb when I had to tell her to display her cedula to them. Had I known her age prior to meeting up I would of gone with someone older, at the very least 21, But I said fuck it, it was my last day and she was a sweet girl. I guess I don't like feeling like a pedophile. Not my thing.
20-25 yr gap, or 40 yr gap is too wide.Too wide for what? Too wide for both parties to have a good time?
DiverFiver
02-07-23, 03:25
MB, why are you the "Acceptable Police" ? I am 62 and have a regular in Bogota that is 32, have known her 5 years. We are comfortable together, she usually stays with me for 2-3 days. Do normal things that normal people do. Go to eat, movies, concerts, tourist stuff, run errands, watch TV, etc. Of course she wouldn't be there without money, but its good for both of us. To each their own.
ColombiaLover
02-07-23, 03:37
While I still see prepagos and semi-pros on occasion, I am now more likely to see chicas who just enjoy the company. Food, jacuzzi, safe environment, good treatment in and outside of bed. I currently have a GF who is 18. I am 57. We connect in some ways, but certainly not others (some generational, some cultural). But we enjoy our time together. She asks nothing of me, although I did buy her a nice shirt for Christmas! Her parents know about me and are fine with it, because they know I respect and take care of her. And she is not the first girl I've been with whose parents were totally fine with it and actually were happy she was not with a guy who was going to abuse her or knock her up or treat her like dirt.
I am not saying every girls prefers an older guy and I'm not saying all parents would be accepting, but it does happen.
Obviously I have no illusions of marrying her and bringing her to the USA. That's not going to happen with any chica. But we are enjoying the time now and not worrying about the future.
Don't get me wrong, I like them young and fresh too, but I'm being realistic and would never call a girl that I'm fucking and who could be my granddaughter, a "girlfriend".
Her parents are probably in their early 40's. If i was her dad, i would never let her date a 60 yr old fart from the US no matter how much money he has, simply because this is fucked up.
So this morning I went down to Centro and had an excellent mid day session with a cute 23 year old vennie at botero real. Anyways I got some pics of the new barrier that was put up last week.
I heard it's only going to be temporary though and had something to do with a new paro nacional (protest) that is going to be happening soon.
Too wide for what? Too wide for both parties to have a good time?Too wide to have a real, long lasting relationship.
BTW, how do you know if both parties are having fun? Keep in mind that one party pays, and the other party gets paid. Would the party that gets paid have fun for free?
Anthony2023
02-07-23, 05:22
Her parents know about me and are fine with it, because they know I respect and take care of her. And she is not the first girl I've been with whose parents were totally fine with it and actually were happy she was not with a guy who was going to abuse her or knock her up or treat her like dirt.
Do they also know you see prepagos?
The real question you got to ask is, I don't know if you have a daughter or not but if you do or did, would you be OK with your 18-25 yr old daughter dating someone as old as 50-60 yrs or even just older than you?
If you would be ok with it idk about you but I would seriously seek a psychiatric evaluation for myself and said daughter ASAP.
Anthony2023
02-07-23, 05:56
To get a visitor visa for your girl to visit the United States is even more impressive if true.Is it really that hard to get a visitor visa to the us? I don't really know, I've only read if your a student it's not that hard. I always thought it would be more impressive to get a visa to places like Cuba.
In the America that I know, which is big cities, it would attract a lot of attention and a lot of scorn and negative comments. It is not a normal age gap for America and it does attract a lot of disgust. It also attracts a large number of young fit men with game gravitating towards your girl and trying to hit on her. I always thought that the Bible belt cities were even more judgmental but perhaps I am wrong. If that is the reaction in your city and she is still with you all the more power to you bro. To get a visitor visa for your girl to visit the United States is even more impressive if true.Does Chicago count as a big city? Downtown. Millenium Park. Willis Tower. The big Apple Store? I've previously posted 1 or 2 pictures undoubtedly taken on the observation deck of Willis Tower (formerly Sears Tower), so I'm pretty sure it's true that she has a visa (B1/ B2 if it matters). Attached is a screen shot from a video when we ate at Giordano's on Randolph Street. Notice the lack of disgust, scorn, negative comments or even attention.
It didn't attract a lot of attention, scorn, disgust, or negative comments. As I stated, just one judgemental loom. It also didn't attract any fit, young men gravitating towards her and trying to hit on her, not even when we spent the day at the water park at Kings Island in Cincinnati (which was the reason for the visit to the Chicago Apple Store). However, if she had worn the bikini she brought with her, something I bought her from Wicked Weasel, we would have attracted a lot of attention. Fortunately, I was able to buy something at the park more appropriate for the Midwest. That's not saying that she didn't get looked at and even stared at a few times, but that's pretty common with a beautiful woman in a bikini.
What you wrote is based on what you think would happen and reflects your opinion towards the whole old man, young woman scenario. What I've written is what I actually experienced and I believe my positive experience is a reflection of my acceptance that the age difference is irrelevant.
There's always the risk of some Karen going on a rant, but I've been through that before. I know how to make them look silly, and it would be worth some nice cash once the video went viral.
If you want, this summer (after her semester is over), I'll let you fly her and I to New York, LOS Angeles, or whichever big US city you want, and you can follow us around and see how people react. You can even try your game and try to hit on her.
You said 40 years, not 20. Even 20 is kinda pushing it for USA. Going out in public and balling out with a chick who is 40 years younger than you is awesome and I love reading it and would get a kick out of seeing it, but it would really irk the hell out of everyone who sees you two show affection in public. I am sure you would get the death looks and whispers of "grooming" and "sugar daddy". Like you state though, I am sure you could care less about that shit with a hot young thing on your arm.
#1 Rule of monger-life. There is what a man can do, and a man can't do.
Thank god a man with cash can always find some good looking female company, no matter his age.Sorry my brain was thinking 20 years old while my finger was typing 40 years younger and the result was "20 years younger. " Blame it on the 60 year old brain.
And who's balling out? We went places, did things as a couple, but we weren't giving each other tonsil massages in public, except at the airport. Although there was one night in the car, driving around, plus things got heated on the long road trips. In public we behave like a typical couple, same in Medellin.
To me, attitude is important. I see guys asking about "the walk of shame", bringing a girl to your hotel, or going into a red light business. I don't feel that way. Whatever I'm doing, it's completely normal and natural. People don't notice anything unusual because I'm not acting like I'm doing anything unusual.
The same approach, in my opinion, helps to avoid problems in places like El Centro. If you're walking around seeing criminals and druggies and danger everywhere, people will notice. When I walk around, I see just normal people doing normal things in a normal place and I'm just another face in the crowd.
Too wide to have a real, long lasting relationship.
BTW, how do you know if both parties are having fun? Keep in mind that one party pays, and the other party gets paid. Would the party that gets paid have fun for free?What is a real relationship? How long is "long lasting?" When does a relationship begin and end? And who gets to define those things? I would think those questions can only be answered by the people involved. Can you show me how your judgement on these things is superior to mine and hers?
BTW, how do you know both parties aren't having fun? In my case, I know both parties. You know neither. Neither party is getting paid, although one party does pay and provides things the other can't afford (like extended trips to the US).
How do you know if the person you've spent time with enjoyed the time together? What do you base it on? One good indicator is the "call back. " That's a comedy term. When a comedian tells a joke and then later on says something to connect the current joke to the previous one, that's a call back. It only works if the audience enjoyed the first joke.
If you do something with someone and they bring it up, in a positive way, at a later date, chances are they enjoyed it. A call back. Over Christmas I had a chance to hang out with her family, and they questioned us both about her time in the US. Based on the things she mentioned and her reaction and response to the things I mentioned, I'd say she had fun. Of course that's only based upon actual experience with the parties involved and doesn't use the more reliable method of just making shit up to align with your prejudices.
Errol Flynn
02-07-23, 07:56
In the States its all about envy and jealousy. The men give angry looks because they are married to whales while the women are irked because they feel you should date women closer to your own age....like them.I wish we could give likes on ISG.
They don't love the older guys per se, they like the money that older guys have. Stop paying and see how long your "relationship" will last.
Up to 12-15 yr age gap is acceptable, because you are technically, the same generation. 20-25 yr gap, or 40 yr gap is too wide.Stop paying with a 12-15 year age gap and see what happens. Stop paying with a 3 day age gap and see what happens.
When you're traveling to another country and paying a girl, as you've said, $100 or more, to spend time with you, the age gap isn't an issue. It works the same with my job. If they decide to stop paying me, how much longer do you think I'll keep coming to work? My name's not Milton.
Maybe someone else did, but I've never said anything about "love. " I care less about love than I care about the world knitting championship. Just like "love", I don't know if there is a world knitting championship. There's lust, self-preservation and self-gratification. There's even preservation of the species. When you take all those things out, where is the love?
Worrying about "love" is a quick way to fuck up a good thing. You see it all the time. Two people go out, they have fun, they fuck, they repeat, until one or both decide they're "in love. " They stop going out, they stop having fun and eventually they stop fucking and then it all goes to shit, because they confused fun with love and decided that some form of ownership was required. Worse, when it all falls apart, they usually decide they hate each other, which spreads amongst their friends because everyone has to pick a side.
Much more dependable is "is it working?" If it's working then don't fuck with it. If it's not working pick one:
1. Fix it.
2. Replace it.
3. Do without it.
If you go to a restaurant, since this is currently being discussed, and order a steak, you take a bite and decide if it's a good thing. If it isn't a good thing, back up to your 3 choices. Maybe a bit of salt or steak sauce will fix it, or you might need to send it back. Or you might just say fuck it and order a pizza. What you don't do, if it's a great steak, is buy the restaurant, close the doors and tell the staff they're only allowed to feed you and start eating every meal there.
Tiepolo2002
02-07-23, 13:45
Dears,
Some months ago, I was browsing Instagram, and somehow I bumped into this beauty from Medellin. From the photo, absolute goddess.
I could see she had several thousands of followers, which automatically means low chances of getting noticed, but I have tried anyway. She was clearly a pro, from the photo and party videos she posted. I had to try a few time before she gave me an answer, but basically I asked her in a polite way if there was a way to meet her.
She said that usual stuff and shared her price: "1 million COP for one night" (about 200 USD) which is quite the standard in Colombia. Then I asked her how much would be a whole day and she gave me 1. 5 M COP (300 USD). I live in Panama City and we could not meet for several months, but keep in touch. Once, I almost met her in Cartagena, but then not.
Then finally we met in November 2022 in Bogota' (I paid her flight) and she was amazing and fun all the time.
Last month, I met her again in Medellin, when I went to have some fun. She is sweet, she can easily have sex multiple times and enjoying it. Unlike other girls she is on a good mood all the time and her body is to die for. I plan to meet her again soon. Damage: 300 USD / day.
While I still see prepagos and semi-pros on occasion, I am now more likely to see chicas who just enjoy the company. Food, jacuzzi, safe environment, good treatment in and outside of bed. I currently have a GF who is 18. I am 57. We connect in some ways, but certainly not others (some generational, some cultural). But we enjoy our time together. She asks nothing of me, although I did buy her a nice shirt for Christmas! Her parents know about me and are fine with it, because they know I respect and take care of her. And she is not the first girl I've been with whose parents were totally fine with it and actually were happy she was not with a guy who was going to abuse her or knock her up or treat her like dirt.
I am not saying every girls prefers an older guy and I'm not saying all parents would be accepting, but it does happen.
Obviously I have no illusions of marrying her and bringing her to the USA. That's not going to happen with any chica. But we are enjoying the time now and not worrying about the future.It is the younger mongers who fight against this idea that much girls can enjoy the company of much older gringos. Remember this, as an older guy, I used to be your age and thought exactly the same thing. We used to be you and you will eventually become us. Because of this, you should hope that it is true so that you will continue to enjoy the company of much younger women even 30 or 40 years from now and they seem to enjoy your company. Wouldn't that be great even if it is a fantasy.
Great observation but you forgot the younger guys, yes if the younger guys quit paying see how long the Chicas hang around. You may think they want to be around you because your young and handsome but in reality they have their hands in your wallet. Your going to pay any way with meals or buying them clothes etc.
"Up to 12-15 yr age gap is acceptable, because you are technically, the same generation. 20-25 yr gap, or 40 yr gap is too wide. ".
These are the stupid rules that were forced upon us and the reason we leave to have fun. Bottom line is if your old and like younger women you can go to Colombia and have a great time for very little money. The girls that make my regular list are the ones that make me feel like a King and that I enjoy spending time with. I really don't care much for the naysayers who are trying to put us down and really do not care to hear about a youngster that can get pussy for free (although in reality it is not). This is a site about mongering and escorts (paying for sex). Enjoy my friends, I'm living the dream.
These are the stupid rules of pussy prison and the reason we leave to have fun.
They don't love the older guys per se, they like the money that older guys have. Stop paying and see how long your "relationship" will last.
Up to 12-15 yr age gap is acceptable, because you are technically, the same generation. 20-25 yr gap, or 40 yr gap is too wide.
Too wide to have a real, long lasting relationship.
BTW, how do you know if both parties are having fun? Would the party that gets paid have fun for free?I didn't make a claim. I proposed a hypothetical. You are the one making claims again. Claims are demonstrably false.
BTW. If you were to plan to go to the Supwerbowl final w your same age GF. But you didn't have nough money to buy the tickets, how much fun would you have? . And if you did have tickets to buy the tickets, would it be fair for me to say "that's not real fun bcos you had to pay for it"?
The last chick I hooked with on my trip to my surprise was 19 years old, I'm 35 and even at my age I low key felt uncomfortable walking around with her in provenza, like I said I don't know how guys in their 50's and 60's are comfortable with that, I would assume most people might think they are walking around with their grand daughter.
I actually felt a little embarrassed and shame with the security guys at my airbnb when I had to tell her to display her cedula to them. Had I known her age prior to meeting up I would of gone with someone older, at the very least 21, But I said fuck it, it was my last day and she was a sweet girl. I guess I don't like feeling like a pedophile. Not my thing.Many young guys don't like older men banging young women because of the possibility of old men fucking girls that the young guys want and so those young guys get the old man's sloppy seconds.
Sailor Jim
02-07-23, 16:09
Love equals money or money equals love...
My downfall, is my chicas see how much I spend on the pink shit, and that unfortunately sets the bar quite a bit higher, but that "problem" is of my own doing and I can only blame myself for that predicament, not them. What can I say when they observe, "But you spent X-million pesos this week on. . . ? " I tell them I worked long and hard to spend my money the way I choose, but if we are talking love, that is obviously a selfish retort and does not fly well...An old post but I have to add taking your date to a higher end restaurant although not an issue for us, but when the girl sees a steak dinner for 100 K and you're drinking 30 K drinks, when that bill comes and the waiter either announces for the whole restaurant what the total is, even though you are looking at the bill (The total is on the bill, that's what the bill is, why do they need to announce the total more than once?) or they lay the bill on the table in full view of everyone at the table while they work the credit card machine.
My point is aligned with Osteo that when the girls see you just spring 300 K for dinner and you have agreed on 200 K for the night, she may just feel slighted and service may take a dip. "If he is spending 20 K on taxis three times tonight, 300 K on dinner etc. Why am I only getting 200 K!
I find you get better service from the girl going to a humble tipico place to eat and not spending wads of cash in front of her.
By spending big bucks in front of her you are showing how rich you are, however temporary due to a good FX rate vs USD / EUR, this is not going to last forever. They are continuing to jack up prices due to all you Daddy Warbucks out there, spending like a drunken sailor. And I should know about sailors.
Just my. 02 cents.
RealDeal80
02-07-23, 16:14
Many young guys don't like older men banging young women because of the possibility of old men fucking girls that the young guys want and so those young guys get the old man's sloppy seconds.At 35 I probably thought the same thing. Now at 43 when I see a 55 year old with a 20 yr old I want to give the guy a high five and say good for you!
Bottom line is old women are not fuckable. When I go to the pool or Walmart, all I see are old unfuckable women. We have to travel to Brazil and Colombia so we have a huge amount of choice. It's impossible to compete with the 21 year old body. My old boss used to bust my balls for looking at 21 year olds. Then I saw his 250 pound wife and realized it was just jealousy. He has to bang this whale in his 50's.
Voodoo Jones
02-07-23, 16:37
She said that usual stuff and shared her price: "1 million COP for one night" (about 200 USD) which is quite the standard in Colombia. Then I asked her how much would be a whole day and she gave me 1. 5 M COP (300 USD).$200 for overnight isn't standard, it's definitely up there unless you're going to a high-end club which isn't worth it imo. Medellin is more expensive than Bogota though. I spent about $60 for a few hours to $100 for most of the afternoon. I'm heading back there this weekend and scheduled more time with the same girls for about the same I paid last time.
I had one that quoted $200 for the day and another wanted almost $100 per hour. You just have to weed through them until you find better options.
What it comes down to is the how much cash the girls can get for how little effort. So, on that basis we can probably agree the girls have to exert less effort to get more money the older the punter. All in all I feel strongly the older guys that really interest girls are the one's who appear on bank notes. Anyone who doubts that should withhold cash to get a low cost cocktail of truth and reality.
Right on Bro.
I know quite a few girls that prefer the older guys to the young bucks for quite a few reasons. What it comes down to is communication, attitude, maturity and respect. My Girfriends either really enjoy their time with me if not they should be in line for an Oscar. Being in my 60's I have been known to play around with all ages (I do not like to descriminate although women 25-35 years old seem to be the sweetspot for me). Yeah, I know they are with me for my money and I am paying them for their services but we all are having a good time. The same thing that goes for the guys in their 30's they are with you for the money too so don't think your special.
The streets are saying it is there for a 45 day period, possibly longer. I think it's been in place for a week or so already.
So this morning I went down to Centro and had an excellent mid day session with a cute 23 year old vennie at botero real. Anyways I got some pics of the new barrier that was put up last week.
I heard it's only going to be temporary though and had something to do with a new paro nacional (protest) that is going to be happening soon.
I think your point is valid even though you and the guy you quoted are not referring to quite the same thing. A key difference is it's not hard to setep away from the table and tell the waiter you want to settle the restaurant bill discreetly. You don't even need to show a menu to your date. There are barrio girls who won't understsand it anyway. To expedite the ordering process I sometimes break down the menu with questions like "do you prefer beef, pork, fish, or salad. " That's just an example because 90%+ of the time there isn't much interest in seafood or salad. French fries and solomito will usually get you past the awkward ordering phase.
An old post but I have to add taking your date to a higher end restaurant although not an issue for us, but when the girl sees a steak dinner for 100 K and you're drinking 30 K drinks, when that bill comes and the waiter either announces for the whole restaurant what the total is, even though you are looking at the bill (The total is on the bill, that's what the bill is, why do they need to announce the total more than once?) or they lay the bill on the table in full view of everyone at the table while they work the credit card machine.
My point is aligned with Osteo that when the girls see you just spring 300 K for dinner and you have agreed on 200 K for the night, she may just feel slighted and service may take a dip. "If he is spending 20 K on taxis three times tonight, 300 K on dinner etc. Why am I only getting 200 K!
I find you get better service from the girl going to a humble tipico place to eat and not spending wads of cash in front of her.
By spending big bucks in front of her you are showing how rich you are, however temporary due to a good FX rate vs USD / EUR, this is not going to last forever. They are continuing to jack up prices due to all you Daddy Warbucks out there, spending like a drunken sailor. And I should know about sailors.
Just my. 02 cents.
I didn't make a claim. I proposed a hypothetical. You are the one making claims again. Claims are demonstrably false.
BTW. If you were to plan to go to the Supwerbowl final w your same age GF. But you didn't have nough money to buy the tickets, how much fun would you have? . And if you did have tickets to buy the tickets, would it be fair for me to say "that's not real fun bcos you had to pay for it"?If I was not able to afford Super Bowl final tickets, we would find a way to have fun. Watch the game at home or at a sports bar, for example. And after the game, have even more fun in the bedroom. Because my GF dates me regardless of what I can or can't afford.
If you were 20 yrs old, would you enjoy banging a 60 yr old woman after you both went to the super bowl final on her dime? Do you realize that you have to "pay it back" to her in the bedroom after the game is over? Eat that 60 yr old pussy? How fun would it be for you?
...I find you get better service from the girl going to a humble tipico place to eat and not spending wads of cash in front of her.....I have been seeing a few recently in Brazil. The last one does not even have a phone. She was smiling at me every time I passed her store. I decided to talk to her, but she took a pen from the counter instead. I wasn't sure why so I gave her my WhatsApp and said message me if you would go out to dinner with me.
Next day I received a message from her from her mom's WhatsApp. We agreed on a place in the middle between our locations, and I had to tell her to take Uber and not bus because she lives in another side of the town. She said US $4 Uber was too high. I told her I would pay her trip both ways. By the time of our date, there must be a surge pricing and it became more than 9 USD. She would not take it until it settled at about 6USD. She came in Uber but arrived without a cell phone. The restaurant I picked probably is expensive by her standard.
I did ask about sex in general, but I did not ask for sex after dinner. She told me she would have sex with me tonight. We went to a love motel nearby and I did not pay her anything. I think the sex is different but not necessarily better. The full on DFK after sex is better than the usually paid ones. She is 20-year-old
I did ask her why she was smiling at me. The answer was she did that to everyone. LOL.
My intuition was to gift her money, but I have been reconsidering the money approach. I am not sure it would make it better by gifting her one-time payment and It's possible it would make it worse.
I had another regular who had her 20th birthday about two weeks ago. She said she could not meet on Saturday because there was a birthday party. My curiosity got to me so I asked was it her birthday? She confirmed and was like a little kid expecting a Christmas present wondering what gift I was going to give her. LOL. Money topic never came up before this. I was planning to gift her money for birthday present, but I changed my mind and took her to pick and buy a gift instead. She already had a necklace in mind as she told me during dinner. When we were shopping, I guess the female clerk knew I was paying so she showed her another necklace that was twice as expensive. The girl asked me which one did I like? I told her it's her birthday present so she should pick.
Because my GF dates me regardless of what I can or can't afford.
That'a great for you. I am pleased for you. I have never ever witnessed a couple stay together if one of them can't afford it. Apart from some examples at the real poverty end of the spectrum. Always, one must pay for it.
Mr Enternational
02-07-23, 19:15
An old post but I have to add taking your date to a higher end restaurant although not an issue for us, but when the girl sees a steak dinner for 100 K and you're drinking 30 K drinks, when that bill comes and the waiter either announces for the whole restaurant what the total is, even though you are looking at the bill (The total is on the bill, that's what the bill is, why do they need to announce the total more than once?) or they lay the bill on the table in full view of everyone at the table while they work the credit card machine.You say that as if everyone at the table was not there when things were ordered and when the food came. They saw what was there and it was no secret the price of the items listed in the menu. But in Sosua it used to happen a lot that guys go out to eat and chicks see them dining on lobster and shit then they want more money.
So many girls on facebook selling pictures. Often many accounts of the same person. Probably some guy selling videos they get off instagram and tiktok.
Many young guys don't like older men banging young women because of the possibility of old men fucking girls that the young guys want and so those young guys get the old man's sloppy seconds.Plus the young guys have to deal with the disappointment of the girl because they still haven't learned how to satisfy a woman.
Mr Enternational
02-07-23, 20:24
So many girls on facebook selling pictures. Often many accounts of the same person. Probably some guy selling videos they get off instagram and tiktok.Weird. Somehow I got caught up in a chat group in Barranquilla. I guess it must have been one of those photoprepagos ads that I contacted. Well when one person in the group found out the chick was selling content he laughed and was like for what. Then people started adding literally thousands of videos and pics of other people's content to the group and were like this shit is free. I had to delete that group. I could have gone into business and sold some of the videos that were placed into that group.
My nurse chick in Bogota has sent me so many pics and videos over the years that the other day I finally had to ask her if she was doing cam shows. Who the fuck has that much time be be taking all those pics and playing with themselves all the damn time. She got offended that I asked.
Mechanic88
02-07-23, 20:31
So many girls on facebook selling pictures. Often many accounts of the same person. Probably some guy selling videos they get off instagram and tiktok.LOL you're reply was pretty funny.
MaddTraveler
02-07-23, 20:59
Lmao. Just fcking around man. Been Mia for a min after my last Dec debauchery and now getting ready for another trip and deciding between MDE and DR and can't decide. It will be for 20 days to a Month and wish to fly in the next few days. My question is how's the action and party scene right now? I know next week or so (02/18) it's Barranquilla carnival and many chics and their families will be gone for that week or longer. Shall I wait? Also as I'm trying to catch up w y'all, all I'm reading past few pages is still the usual 2022 debates and dick measuring LOL, so anyone of y'all out there hitting it since no full reports in a min?
Anthony2023
02-07-23, 21:37
My point is aligned with Osteo that when the girls see you just spring 300 K for dinner and you have agreed on 200 K for the night, she may just feel slighted and service may take a dip. "If he is spending 20 K on taxis three times tonight, 300 K on dinner etc. Why am I only getting 200 K!
I find you get better service from the girl going to a humble tipico place to eat and not spending wads of cash in front of her.
By spending big bucks in front of her you are showing how rich you are, however temporary due to a good FX rate vs USD / EUR, this is not going to last forever. They are continuing to jack up prices due to all you Daddy Warbucks out there, spending like a drunken sailor. And I should know about sailors.
Just my. 02 cents.Haha I think every one has thought of this. My 2 cents, spend accordingly, if you're with a cheap date don't splurge on fancy dinners. However if you are with a higher end girl my experience has been they love those fancy dinners and they pay it back nicely later, either way I enjoy nice dinners too but like I said just use common sense.
Anthony2023
02-07-23, 21:47
Not only he sees prepagos, but also worked for a webcam girl and shared an apartment with her. I would never want my daughter to date his old ass, and if she did, I would fail as a father. But since his "girlfriend" was raised by a single mom, that explains everything. The most fucked up thing is he thinks it is normal to date someone who is 40 years younger. 20 yr old girl is just a kid with very little experience in anything, can't even legally consume alcohol in the States.True when I read the father isn't in the picture that made a lot of sense, I thought these parents have to fucked in the head.
Those exact thoughts ran thru my head when I was out with the 19 yr old, I was like this chick can't even order a drink back home haha, I was like wtf I'm I doing with her, I just wanted to bust my nut and get it over with, I couldn't date girls that young.
Anthony2023
02-07-23, 22:19
It's not just about jealousy or envy, but pure anger as well. Several years ago a woman told me that I was somebody who she saw as being with younger women, and that pissed her off to no end. I didn't even really "know" this woman as she was more of an acquaintance. At the time we were thinking about "getting to know each other better", but it never happened. The thing is that I'm not sexually attracted to most women my age (not all but most), and I suppose this can be said to be one of the negative "side effects" of mongering. I've never "adjusted" to being with women in my age cohort. And at this point in time, I don't ever intend to. I'll just keep fucking what I like to fuck until for whatever reason I can't anymore, and then I'll just stop fucking. Young, pretty blondes (brunettes and redheads too) forever: https://quatroporquatroclass.com.br/us/perfil/vitoria!Here's my question, and this goes out to all of you dinosaurs haha.
Do you guys fear ending up alone? I mean since like you said you don't see yourself settling with a woman around your age.
Like right now obviously for me after dating and a divorce and now in my mid 30's I have no intentions of settling down, but I have thought about how long could I keep fucking girls just for fun till I eventually would get tired of it, or better yet what would I do if one day my dick stopped working, do I really want to depend on viagra all the time. Nobody wants to end up in a nursing home alone left to die. I mean I still children & have family but sometimes I do wonder if I just keep living the monger life I might just end up alone in meaningless "GF" relationships and not exactly sure if that's the road I want to take but you guys make it seem like you are happy as can be. So I'm just curious about some honesty, some insight on that.
Anthony2023
02-07-23, 22:23
Does Chicago count as a big city? Downtown. Millenium Park. Willis Tower. The big Apple Store? I've previously posted 1 or 2 pictures undoubtedly taken on the observation deck of Willis Tower (formerly Sears Tower), so I'm pretty sure it's true that she has a visa (B1/ B2 if it matters). Attached is a screen shot from a video when we ate at Giordano's on Randolph Street. Notice the lack of disgust, scorn, negative comments or even attention.her.That elevator ride up the Willis tower is some ride isn't it, goes up really fast!
How did she like that deep dish? I think I tried it at the same place.
Mr Enternational
02-07-23, 22:26
Not only he sees prepagos, but also worked for a webcam girl and shared an apartment with her. I would never want my daughter to date his old ass, and if she did, I would fail as a father. But since his "girlfriend" was raised by a single mom, that explains everything. The most fucked up thing is he thinks it is normal to date someone who is 40 years younger. 20 yr old girl is just a kid with very little experience in anything, can't even legally consume alcohol in the States.When did ColombiaLover say all this?
This has been a good thread so far. Funny thing is today there is an article that Leonardo DiCaprio is dating a new 19 year old model. Doing what we all would do if we were him.
Explorer8939
02-07-23, 23:41
I am not seeing reports of guys renting AirBnBs in Medellin. Is AirBnB a good coice for a longer stay?
In what colonia are the bars? I wouldn't want to rent a long term place too far from the action.
Not only he sees prepagos, but also worked for a webcam girl and shared an apartment with her. I would never want my daughter to date his old ass, and if she did, I would fail as a father. But since his "girlfriend" was raised by a single mom, that explains everything. The most fucked up thing is he thinks it is normal to date someone who is 40 years younger. 20 yr old girl is just a kid with very little experience in anything, can't even legally consume alcohol in the States.I was referring to Jjbee, not ColombiaLover.
I would never want my daughter to date his old ass, and if she did, I would fail as a father. How do you reconcile this. You rate girls as 1-10 and mark some of the girls as 10 that FK you for money, right. So how come you wouldn't want your own daughter to be similar 10?
The streets are saying it is there for a 45 day period, possibly longer. .Already today the checkpoints were not even staffed by police.
I just don't like feeling like a pedophile and don't see how men with a 20,30,40 year age gap feel comfortable with it if I don't at my age.So if you didn't have a sexual hang up and feel like a paedophile then it would be okay, according to you. Well ok great bcos that's exacty how I feel. I don't feel uncomfortable at all so it is all ok according to you and I.
How do you reconcile this. You rate girls as 1-10 and mark some of the girls as 10 that FK you for money, right. So how come you wouldn't want your own daughter to be similar 10?What does this has to do with the rating scale? Yes, I want my daughter to look beautiful, as any father would want. But I will do my best to make sure my daughter will never be in a position to sell her pussy to some old fart, or anyone, for that matter.
I have seen girls quote me $800,000 for all night which would be a no go for me. Then again I have had chicas over and they ask if it's ok to spend the night and I pay them $300,000 in the morning.
I have had many women spend the night over the years and I generally do not pay extra for it.
$200 for overnight isn't standard, it's definitely up there unless you're going to a high-end club which isn't worth it imo. Medellin is more expensive than Bogota though. I spent about $60 for a few hours to $100 for most of the afternoon. I'm heading back there this weekend and scheduled more time with the same girls for about the same I paid last time.
I had one that quoted $200 for the day and another wanted almost $100 per hour. You just have to weed through them until you find better options.
What does this has to do with the rating scale? Yes, I want my daughter to look beautiful, as any father would want. But I will do my best to make sure my daughter will never be in a position to sell her pussy to some old fart, or anyone, for that matter.Well you rate women as high as they could possibly score as a 10 if they look good and FK you for money. So surely your daughter could rate 10 by doing the same? Even if not by you, but by another guy that follows your rating scale. You rate some girls as 10 which is the max score despite them accepting money for sex. So obv there is nothing wrong with doing that. So what's wrong with me or some other guy fking ur daughter for money? Hypothetical of course.
I am just finishing up my visit to Medellin. I am flying out tomorrow morning and everything seems fine in Medellin. There's a lot of debate about pricing, older rounders with much younger girls, druggings and so on. I was a bit busy doing things in the bedroom to fully engage in the debates. I can tell you is I came, I had a great time and I leave very satisfied with Medellin. I saw Facebook girls exclusively and I was happy with the prices that I paid and the service that I received. Everyone has their own price point which they want to pay and I was happy with the prices that I paid and it really doesn't matter to me what anyone else thinks about how much I paid.
This is my third trip to Medellin and I would come back. La Quinta por.
Anthony2023
02-08-23, 02:16
So if you didn't have a sexual hang up and feel like a paedophile then it would be okay, according to you. Well ok great bcos that's exacty how I feel. I don't feel uncomfortable at all so it is all ok according to you and I.Huh? Sorry I don't understand what you are getting at.
Well you rate women as high as they could possibly score as a 10 if they look good and FK you for money. So surely your daughter could rate 10 by doing the same? Even if not by you, but by another guy that follows your rating scale. You rate some girls as 10 which is the max score despite them accepting money for sex. So obv there is nothing wrong with doing that. So what's wrong with me or some other guy fking ur daughter for money? Hypothetical of course.What are you talking about? 1-10 scale is for looks only. Regardless of her degree, profession, personality, and it doesn't matter if she accepts money or not. I rate women differently depending on how they look. I rate them 5's, 7's, etc and all other numbers from 1 to 10. I haven't scored a 10 yet, maybe a couple of 9's. What's wrong with you fucking my daughter for money? Everything! My daughter, if I ever have one, will never have to fuck for money, simply because she won't be in need to do so.
Rochesterss
02-08-23, 02:26
Will be my 4th time travelling to Medellin since 2018. Don't speak Spanish but love the city and have visited many casas and strip clubs. Looking to increase my Facebook contacts for this trip. Also up for meeting up with fellow mongers. DM me.
Anthony2023
02-08-23, 02:41
If someone 19 makes you feel like a pedophile, and 21 is only a little better, what about a 20 year old? The difference in age from 1 year to the next could be a matter of seconds.
The laws vary, but if you're from the US, wherever you are, 18 is the line. If you feel uncomfortable with that, that's your own problem. In 20 years you'll be telling guys your age there's nothing wrong with it.20 for me is still like dating a teenager, I don't know what to tell you man, I'm just expressing how I feel about it, not everyone has to agree and I don't care what older guys are doing because it doesn't involve me. To each his own. And oh god no I hope I'm not telling that to younger guys, In 20 years hopefully I won't have the desire to monger any more because I met a woman to settle down with that's AT LEAST 30.
Let's be real, In my opinion anyone who is over 30 and purposely seeks teenagers has some sort of pedophilia fetish, I think most sane individuals would agree.
At my age now, my preference is 24-29, by the time I'm 60 IF I'm still mongering I'm hoping that doesn't change at the very least.
Mr Enternational
02-08-23, 02:41
I just don't like feeling like a pedophile and don't see how men with a 20,30,40 year age gap feel comfortable with it if I don't at my age.This is a word that has been hijacked and misconstrued, probably in an effort to shame people. This word deals with prepubescent people, not someone that is fully developed that may be much younger than the other person.
My girlfriend is from a country town in Brazil. She met her ex-husband when she was 17 and he was 40. She said when they would go places people would sometimes mistake her for his daughter, but nobody was like ewww. I am 50 and personally like chicks at least 25. But I think you will get a better perspective if you talk to normal chicks that like older guys, because some chicks do actually prefer older guys or like someone and he happens to be older.
What are you talking about? 1-10 scale is for looks only. Thats not what I remember at all. I remember you saying that a girl scored higher marks for education, job, where she lives, her life experiences. Etc (how much you paid for he, heher). Maybe I was wrong about that. I am too tired to look it up.
Thats not what I remember at all. I remember you saying that a girl scored higher marks for education, job, where she lives, her life experiences. Etc (how much you paid for he, heher). Maybe I was wrong about that. I am too tired to look it up.You are probably confusing me with Elvis and his opinion on the elites.
Anthony2023
02-08-23, 03:04
It's a free world in Colombia If someone is 60 and want's to date a 20 year old and she wants to be his girlfriend its all good. What I do not understand is why someone especially one of our Monger brothers would have a problem with it. We leave the good old USA for these exact socio norms that we do not agree with.True, like I said to each his own. If jjb and others like him are happy and that's what makes them happy good for them, I'm not knocking that, I'm just saying how I feel about it and if that offends anyone will than tough luck, that's the internet for you. If someone doesn't agree that's fine also. Hell when I see a old man with a young girl the only thing I feel is just a little embarrassed for the chick but that's about it. I don't get why some of you are saying it's jealousy. I'm pretty sure I can out perform most people twice my age without the need of a pill. But seriously more power to you, the good thing is you older guys are doing more work than us to keep that hooker mentality plugged in for these type of unfortunate women. So thanks for that.
Mr Enternational
02-08-23, 03:07
I don't need to know you, or know her, in order to make a simple conclusion that a 60 yr old gringo truck driver has very little (if anything at all) in common with a 20 yr kid from Colombia. You are being delusional when calling her your girlfriend.That begs the question of why do you think people have to have a lot in common in order to enjoy each other's company and have fun together? When I stop and look at it, me and my girlfriend are closer in age and do not have very much in common. But we do love to be with each other and take care of each other and do things together.
James Carville sticks out to me. While opposing lay political party members are ready to kill each other, this guy is a democratic political consultant that has been married to a republican political consultant for 30 years. They have opposing livelihoods yet are able to be together.
Sometimes I meet chicks and they say I need to get to know you first. I ask why; didn't you get to know your last boyfriend or kid's father first? And how did that turn out? It seems the prescribed path or path that most people travel does not guarantee shit. Sometimes think or do outside the box or throw caution to the wind and see what you come up with. If you can converse well and get along good with a person, what the fuck does it matter if both of your favorite color is red?
The mayor had his photo op the other day. He will let it fade away gradually now that he got what he needed from it.
Already today the checkpoints were not even staffed by police.
Mr Enternational
02-08-23, 03:23
I rate women differently depending on how they look. I rate them 5's, 7's, etc and all other numbers from 1 to 10. I haven't scored a 10 yet, maybe a couple of 9's.So would that not mean the 9 on your scale is actually a 10, or that the 10 is meaningless? Why would there be a grade for something that is virtually impossible to achieve?
Mr Enternational
02-08-23, 03:30
It's a free world in Colombia If someone is 60 and want's to date a 20 year old and she wants to be his girlfriend its all good. What I do not understand is why someone especially one of our Monger brothers would have a problem with it. We leave the good old USA for these exact socio norms that we do not agree with.But that is not saying we leave the USA to give up ALL social norms there. We still want to keep the ones we personally agree with. We just want more leeway for the norms we personally do not agree with.
Not only he sees prepagos, but also worked for a webcam girl and shared an apartment with her. I would never want my daughter to date his old ass, and if she did, I would fail as a father. But since his "girlfriend" was raised by a single mom, that explains everything. The most fucked up thing is he thinks it is normal to date someone who is 40 years younger. 20 yr old girl is just a kid with very little experience in anything, can't even legally consume alcohol in the States.Can we get the thread name changed from "Medellin Reports" to "Just Can't Stop Talking about JjBee62?" At least then half of the posts would be on topic.
Honestly, Mami'sBoy, if you had a daughter, it's unlikely I'd date her. Even drunk my standards are higher than to go that far down the food chain.
Just because it's hilarious to show how you never know what you're talking about:
I worked for a webcam studio (technically 3 of them), one of them was ran by the boyfriend of a webcam model. I lived in an apartment rented by that studio, along with another webcam model who worked for that studio. The webcam model I shared the apartment with currently owns homes on 2 continents and has offered me free stays, any time for however long I want, in her Bogota Airbnb. So obviously that must make me a truly horrible person (although I'm not sure why). BTW, you also see prepagos. Do you have a special exemption, or are you just flexing your hypocrisy?
Back to "things you don't know, but insist on talking about. ".
My girlfriend wasn't raised by a single mom. She's the second daughter and apparently, her mother was married before having her older sister (since she has 2 older brothers, same name). However, at some point her parents divorced and I've been told her father remarried.
The truly fucked up thing is that, along with whoever I might be fucking, my life is apparently the most important thing in the world to you.
If you want to get technical, and why not, she's over 40 years younger. I hit 60 before she hit 20. As the Official ISG Sheriff of the Morality Patrol that must really get you riled up. She doesn't need to drink alcohol in the US. Unlike with you, women don't need to get drunk before they can bear to be around me.
True when I read the father isn't in the picture that made a lot of sense, I thought these parents have to fucked in the head.
Those exact thoughts ran thru my head when I was out with the 19 yr old, I was like this chick can't even order a drink back home haha, I was like wtf I'm I doing with her, I just wanted to bust my nut and get it over with, I couldn't date girls that young.So fucking her was perfectly fine, but dating her would be fucked up?
Go ahead and read it again.
You had no problem, when you found out the girl you just met was 19, fucking her, paying her and sending her home, but getting to know her, spending several days with her, without even a kiss, keeping in touch with her for over 2 years before the first real time alone with her, would have been immoral?
That's so incredibly stupid, you should get a trophy.
BTW, what was the parenting situation of the 19 year old hooker? Surely, if it's so important you asked before fucking.
I don't need to know you, or know her, in order to make a simple conclusion that a 60 yr old gringo truck driver has very little (if anything at all) in common with a 20 yr kid from Colombia. You are being delusional when calling her your girlfriend.Here we go again.
You don't need to know anything about something in order to know everything about it? Does that sum it up?
Making a conclusion, without any data is called "I'm just going to make shit up. ".
Sad isn't it?
FlowState985
02-08-23, 04:32
I was in MDE for about 2 weeks. Here are my report so people can get some benefits going either first timers or veterans.
From Airport: You can either take bus to San Diego or el Centro (behind Nutibara Hotel) for 16 mil and then taxi to your place OR you can take taxi / uber directly to your place (about 90 mil now).
I mostly did centro casa either solo or with another ISG member (BarrioSpinner) and then chill around centro for lunch / coffee then hit up the grills (Conejita or Nueva). Centro Casas route: New Life (3 mil viewing if you don't take a girl), Sexy Amigas, or Zandaly. They all within 3-5 blocks of each other. For addresses, use the posted map. I checked out New Life a few times but never took anyone there.
Zandaly- Beer 5 mil, girl 55 mil for half. Giselle- Thin spinner, she has some type of butt injection so you see marks on her butts, good service, kisses. Cristal- A little bigger than expected, big shaggy tits, recently had a baby, okay service. Estafania- Nice body, fake tits, but cute face. Charlotte- Dark mulata vennie, cute face but the overly done fake ass that doesn't match her thin body kind of a turn off when on d4 jaja, asked for propina. Mia- nice face and body, fake tits with scar marks.
Sexy Amigas. Beer 7 mil, girl 65 mil for half. Estrella- Thin spinner, curly hair, hottest looking girl in there, kisses but no tongue, 50 mil for BBBJ. Daniella- Thick chica, fake tits, but not overly done, standard service.
Went to Conjeta a few times but never sessioned. Checked it out and chill with a beer or two, then went to Nueva. BarrioSpinner sessioned here a few times. Girl wanted 100 mil to 150 mil for half. Beer is 8 or 9 mil.
Nueva Grill- beer / water 8 mil, cost is depend on each girl. Maria Jose- 21 yo, very thin and short vennie with braces, 75 mil half. She was actually quite friendly and engaging with the conversation afterward. These girls after I cannot make up the names because it was hard to hear with loud music. 2nd chica is from Bello- this girl looks a bit masculine from afar with the club light but when she is close, she's a good looking chica, thin spinner, with great smile, 80 mil half. She has a few small tattoos and one between the collar bones. 3rd chica- thin spinner, she has a crown tattoo on her right butt. This chica got into it, does DT and sucked pretty well, but talked too much, asked for propina. Genesis (I think) - thin spinner, she comes with her older sister who is slightly thicker. She has a heart tattoo on her left arm, and her older sister has a wraparound tattoo on the left thigh. Only negative is when doing d4, she kept pushing her ass to me and it was hard for me to get any thrust.
I might have missed a couple chicas. Can't remember them all.
Okay online and other casas.
Diamond- operated out of Belmonte building. 2 different Torre 1 and 2, make sure you know which one. Majority of the girls are on Photoprepagos or you can get Diamond's number and request a catalog. https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/el-poblado/haremos-todas-las-picardias-morbosas-y-atrevidas-id-uupee from Pereira. The pictures are more filtered, she looks similar in person but a bit darker and slightly thicker. I decided to only do half when I saw her. 140 mil half. https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/el-poblado/alma-modelo-de-rostro-angelical-figura-esbelta-muy-dulce-y-id-qcc5n Picture is mostly accurate, slightly darker in person, from Bucaramanga. Good service with no upcharge BBBJ said depends on hygiene. https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/el-poblado/rica-escort-una-autentica-bomba-latina-del-porno-id-wfkbc Picture is accurate in person except the face is a bit older than I would like. I think she's in her 30's. She got really into it, but kept making weird face kinda turn off jaja. She rode me a long time too. 130 mil half.
Angeles Spa- Cra. 81 #42-60, #202 Laureles. https://angeles-4.ola.click/products. Viewing fee 30 mil if you don't take one. Sara- bigger than the picture, definitely not the same girl because the one I got has tattoos and the one in the pictures doesn't. 90 mil half. Celeste- just like the pic, service was great, BBBJ was top. 50 mil extra.
Santa Spa. Av. 80 #32 EE-21, Laureles (Approximate) I went here around 5 PM and only saw 1 chica which is the one below. There was two other Colombianos waiting and she said more chicas coming if you want to wait or take her. One of the col took her and I decided to wait with the other col but only 1 more girl showed up after 20 min, so I left. I met the owner who ran another casa below. https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/el-poblado/guapisima-con-un-cuerpo-exquisito-y-candente-id-usk5z Did not session, but true to pics, 200 mil hour.
Rejas Blancas (not sure of name bc the girl gave me) Cra 79 A #3962, Laureles. It looks like setup similar to Energy spa. You can come in for viewing. https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/hermosa-camila-nueva-tu-compania-ideal-adicta-al-sexo/22892440/ I found her online and she gave me address to the casa, which I found out later owned by the same owner of Santa Spa. Mechanical and clock watcher, otherwise decent session, 100 mil half even though ads says 40 min. https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/juana-pervertida-dejate-seducir-por-el-placer-y-la-lujuria-agenda-tu-cita/23776139/ this online chica sent me to the same house, but was bait and switched with a different girl named Juana so I left. They said the girl in picture do work there but coming in later. Whatever.
Ellas Erotic https://ellaserotic.com/models/prepagos/ 2 locations. AV 80 #52-04, LOS Colores. Lorena- true to pics. 40 mil BBBJ. 80 mil half. Luisa- true to pics, bad breath. 80 mil half. Both times, I was about 10 min late to the scheduled appointment and these girls counted against me, meaning I was on the clock when I was scheduled. Both chicas, said you got 5 min left when we just started like 10-15 min ago.
2nd location Calle 44 #90 A-49, La America. I had better service at this location, maybe it's just the girl. Zoe- slightly thicker than picture but otherwise same girl. She got into it right away with kissing and such. I gave her 100 mil and when she came back we just go at it, and until I left. I forgot about the change jaja. Fernanda- true to pic, but the face is a bit older than I would like probably in 30's but she was really into it. Kissing, DT, etc. I should've paid for BBBJ. Great service. She almost got me ready for 2nd round but I was out of time and too tired to continue jaja.
I also did once at Energy Spa to check it out since I haven't been there before. Was lack luster, not worth the money or repeat. Also checked out La Isla for fun with another ISG.
It's a free world in Colombia If someone is 60 and want's to date a 20 year old and she wants to be his girlfriend its all good. What I do not understand is why someone especially one of our Monger brothers would have a problem with it. We leave the good old USA for these exact socio norms that we do not agree with.This should be a pinned post. We all have our "predilections".
If I want to fuck a 20 yo and you have a problem with it, then GTFOH (in a Sopranos-NJ-kinda-way).
Voodoo Jones
02-08-23, 05:02
I have seen girls quote me $800,000 for all night which would be a no go for me. Then again I have had chicas over and they ask if it's ok to spend the night and I pay them $300,000 in the morning.
I have had many women spend the night over the years and I generally do not pay extra for it.Yeah, visiting a city for the first time is definitely the most difficult in terms of figuring out the going rate. I know people list prices here and it gives some indication of what to expect, but I don't know how these women look like. To be honest, some of the pictures posted here are not attractive and I wouldn't pay to fuck them even at cheap prices. I can only go with my experiences of what I like and how reasonable I think it is. Some will ask for more, others less, but I'm not going to make a big deal about $10-20 differences when we're spending hours together and I actually like her. Worst case scenario: I don't repeat with them and find someone better.
I was getting quoted high prices for some women on SA and getting worried Medellin was double the price of Bogota, but once you talk to enough of them, you'll find attractive women who ask for reasonable rates and it changes the dynamic going forward. I'm now comfortable enough to just ghost Medellin women when they open with too high of a price because I know I just need to keep looking. My biggest advice is never get too attached to one woman no matter how hot their pics are. Some of the best I hooked up with weren't on the top of my list when I first was browsing the site (they were still hot, don't get me wrong LOL).
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