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Voodoo Jones
02-08-23, 05:22
I was in MDE for about 2 weeks. Here are my report so people can get some benefits going either first timers or veterans.Very helpful report. Coincidentally, two of the women you linked I had my eyes on. Good to know they actually looked like their pics even though one has her face blurred.
Errol Flynn
02-08-23, 06:19
I was in MDE for about 2 weeks. Here are my report so people can get some benefits going either first timers or veterans.
From Airport: You can either take bus to San Diego or el Centro (behind Nutibara Hotel) for 16 mil and then taxi to your place OR you can take taxi / uber directly to your place (about 90 mil now).
I mostly did centro casa either solo or with another ISG member (BarrioSpinner) and then chill around centro for lunch / coffee then hit up the grills (Conejita or Nueva). Centro Casas route: New Life (3 mil viewing if you don't take a girl), Sexy Amigas, or Zandaly. They all within 3-5 blocks of each other. For addresses, use the posted map. I checked out New Life a few times but never took anyone there...
...I also did once at Energy Spa to check it out since I haven't been there before. Was lack luster, not worth the money or repeat. Also checked out La Isla for fun with another ISG.Thanks for a very informative and useful post. I'm not really a Casa guy-but everything else was spot on important to the visit I hope to make in a few weeks.
I'll be in MDE in 10 days and have done some research based on my preferences for quality girls and friendly accommodations. Any confirmation or advise to avoid would be highly appreciated.
From what I've gathered, seems the top quality girls can be found in Loutron, Chicas Energy, New Life and Luna Lunera. Any of these I should prioritize? Any to avoid?
As for accommodations, seems it is difficult to find hotels that won't object or up-charge for bringing in girls. I was planning on staying at Intercontinental or Estelar since I've read some reports mention they did not have issues bringing in girls; anyone has had issues with either of these? I'm still no clear on which Estelar people are referring to, as I see there are a few (Blue, Milla de Oro, Apartamentos); any one of these in particular is GF?
As for Airbnb, I have found some that appear to be friendly, but seems they are located in noisy areas and might not be as clean as advertised; any good experiences with Airbnb?
I was in MDE for about 2 weeks. Here are my report so people can get some benefits going either first timers or veterans.
From Airport: You can either take bus to San Diego or el Centro (behind Nutibara Hotel) for 16 mil and then taxi to your place OR you can take taxi / uber directly to your place (about 90 mil now).
I mostly did centro casa either solo or with another ISG member (BarrioSpinner) and then chill around centro for lunch / coffee then hit up the grills (Conejita or Nueva). Centro Casas route: New Life (3 mil viewing if you don't take a girl), Sexy Amigas, or Zandaly. They all within 3-5 blocks of each other. For addresses, use the posted map. I checked out New Life a few times but never took anyone there..Vere interesting. Could you tell me if girls allow you to bareback?
SankarShetty
02-08-23, 13:11
Colombia is gearing up for protests against the government. There extensive mobilization around the city. Centro is completely changed yesterday with police barricades and only one ingress and egress points in to the plaza. One of the first marches is the upcoming Monday. Some of you may recall violence of 2021 marches and protests. Please stay safe and try not to get stuck in traffic during the roadblocks.
Bottom line is old women are not fuckable. When I go to the pool or Walmart, all I see are old unfuckable women......I'm thinking we should appreciate our nubile nymphs even more because that's probably how they look at us oldies.
I am just finishing up my visit to Medellin. I am flying out tomorrow morning and everything seems fine in Medellin. There's a lot of debate about pricing, older rounders with much younger girls, druggings and so on. I was a bit busy doing things in the bedroom to fully engage in the debates. I can tell you is I came, I had a great time and I leave very satisfied with Medellin. I saw Facebook girls exclusively and I was happy with the prices that I paid and the service that I received. Everyone has their own price point which they want to pay and I was happy with the prices that I paid and it really doesn't matter to me what anyone else thinks about how much I paid.
This is my third trip to Medellin and I would come back. La Quinta por.LOL. Glad you had a great trip!!
MaddTraveler
02-08-23, 17:20
Colombia is gearing up for protests against the government. There extensive mobilization around the city. Centro is completely changed yesterday with police barricades and only one ingress and egress points in to the plaza. One of the first marches is the upcoming Monday. Some of you may recall violence of 2021 marches and protests. Please stay safe and try not to get stuck in traffic during the roadblocks.I read about that vaguely but thanks for the extra details, sounds like it will be serious and this is helping on my decision heading out there. It's not a vaca for me if I got to worry about that kinna of BS.
PigSavinBoy
02-08-23, 17:20
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FlowState985
02-08-23, 18:13
Vere interesting. Could you tell me if girls allow you to bareback?BBFS is not my thing with working girl so I never asked. You could try and chat with them and get them more comfortable with you especially at the strip clubs and go from there.
Nil Admirari
02-08-23, 18:21
I was in MDE for about 2 weeks. Here are my report so people can get some benefits going either first timers or veterans.......Let me add my thanks (to the others that you have already received) for your detailed and informative trip report. Even as a seasoned, Medellin veteran I gleaned several interesting leads to pursue. And your post proved a welcome relief from all the Tit-for-Tat, One-Upmanship that has dominated this thread of late. Well, perhaps not just "as of late".
Anthony2023
02-08-23, 20:44
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I was in MDE for about 2 weeks. Here are my report so people can get some benefits going either first timers or veterans.
From Airport: You can either take bus to San Diego or el Centro (behind Nutibara Hotel) for 16 mil and then taxi to your place OR you can take taxi / uber directly to your place (about 90 mil now).
I mostly did centro casa either solo or with another ISG member (BarrioSpinner) and then chill around centro for lunch / coffee then hit up the grills (Conejita or Nueva). Centro Casas route: New Life (3 mil viewing if you don't take a girl), Sexy Amigas, or Zandaly. They all within 3-5 blocks of each other. For addresses, use the posted map. I checked out New Life a few times but never took anyone there.
Zandaly- Beer 5 mil, girl 55 mil for half. Giselle- Thin spinner, she has some type of butt injection so you see marks on her butts, good service, kisses. Cristal- A little bigger than expected, big shaggy tits, recently had a baby, okay service. Estafania- Nice body, fake tits, but cute face. Charlotte- Dark mulata vennie, cute face but the overly done fake ass that doesn't match her thin body kind of a turn off when on d4 jaja, asked for propina. Mia- nice face and body, fake tits with scar marks.
Sexy Amigas. Beer 7 mil, girl 65 mil for half. Estrella- Thin spinner, curly hair, hottest looking girl in there, kisses but no tongue, 50 mil for BBBJ. Daniella- Thick chica, fake tits, but not overly done, standard service.
Went to Conjeta a few times but never sessioned. Checked it out and chill with a beer or two, then went to Nueva. BarrioSpinner sessioned here a few times. Girl wanted 100 mil to 150 mil for half. Beer is 8 or 9 mil.
Nueva Grill- beer / water 8 mil, cost is depend on each girl. Maria Jose- 21 yo, very thin and short vennie with braces, 75 mil half. She was actually quite friendly and engaging with the conversation afterward. These girls after I cannot make up the names because it was hard to hear with loud music. 2nd chica is from Bello- this girl looks a bit masculine from afar with the club light but when she is close, she's a good looking chica, thin spinner, with great smile, 80 mil half. She has a few small tattoos and one between the collar bones. 3rd chica- thin spinner, she has a crown tattoo on her right butt. This chica got into it, does DT and sucked pretty well, but talked too much, asked for propina. Genesis (I think) - thin spinner, she comes with her older sister who is slightly thicker. She has a heart tattoo on her left arm, and her older sister has a wraparound tattoo on the left thigh. Only negative is when doing d4, she kept pushing her ass to me and it was hard for me to get any thrust.
I might have missed a couple chicas. Can't remember them all.
Okay online and other casas.
Diamond- operated out of Belmonte building. 2 different Torre 1 and 2, make sure you know which one. Majority of the girls are on Photoprepagos or you can get Diamond's number and request a catalog. https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/el-poblado/haremos-todas-las-picardias-morbosas-y-atrevidas-id-uupee from Pereira. The pictures are more filtered, she looks similar in person but a bit darker and slightly thicker. I decided to only do half when I saw her. 140 mil half. https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/el-poblado/alma-modelo-de-rostro-angelical-figura-esbelta-muy-dulce-y-id-qcc5n Picture is mostly accurate, slightly darker in person, from Bucaramanga. Good service with no upcharge BBBJ said depends on hygiene. https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/el-poblado/rica-escort-una-autentica-bomba-latina-del-porno-id-wfkbc Picture is accurate in person except the face is a bit older than I would like. I think she's in her 30's. She got really into it, but kept making weird face kinda turn off jaja. She rode me a long time too. 130 mil half.
Angeles Spa- Cra. 81 #42-60, #202 Laureles. https://angeles-4.ola.click/products. Viewing fee 30 mil if you don't take one. Sara- bigger than the picture, definitely not the same girl because the one I got has tattoos and the one in the pictures doesn't. 90 mil half. Celeste- just like the pic, service was great, BBBJ was top. 50 mil extra.
Santa Spa. Av. 80 #32 EE-21, Laureles (Approximate) I went here around 5 PM and only saw 1 chica which is the one below. There was two other Colombianos waiting and she said more chicas coming if you want to wait or take her. One of the col took her and I decided to wait with the other col but only 1 more girl showed up after 20 min, so I left. I met the owner who ran another casa below. https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/el-poblado/guapisima-con-un-cuerpo-exquisito-y-candente-id-usk5z Did not session, but true to pics, 200 mil hour.
Rejas Blancas (not sure of name bc the girl gave me) Cra 79 A #3962, Laureles. It looks like setup similar to Energy spa. You can come in for viewing. https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/hermosa-camila-nueva-tu-compania-ideal-adicta-al-sexo/22892440/ I found her online and she gave me address to the casa, which I found out later owned by the same owner of Santa Spa. Mechanical and clock watcher, otherwise decent session, 100 mil half even though ads says 40 min. https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/juana-pervertida-dejate-seducir-por-el-placer-y-la-lujuria-agenda-tu-cita/23776139/ this online chica sent me to the same house, but was bait and switched with a different girl named Juana so I left. They said the girl in picture do work there but coming in later. Whatever.
Ellas Erotic https://ellaserotic.com/models/prepagos/ 2 locations. AV 80 #52-04, LOS Colores. Lorena- true to pics. 40 mil BBBJ. 80 mil half. Luisa- true to pics, bad breath. 80 mil half. Both times, I was about 10 min late to the scheduled appointment and these girls counted against me, meaning I was on the clock when I was scheduled. Both chicas, said you got 5 min left when we just started like 10-15 min ago.
2nd location Calle 44 #90 A-49, La America. I had better service at this location, maybe it's just the girl. Zoe- slightly thicker than picture but otherwise same girl. She got into it right away with kissing and such. I gave her 100 mil and when she came back we just go at it, and until I left. I forgot about the change jaja. Fernanda- true to pic, but the face is a bit older than I would like probably in 30's but she was really into it. Kissing, DT, etc. I should've paid for BBBJ. Great service. She almost got me ready for 2nd round but I was out of time and too tired to continue jaja.
I also did once at Energy Spa to check it out since I haven't been there before. Was lack luster, not worth the money or repeat. Also checked out La Isla for fun with another ISG.Thank you Flowstate for the detailed info, I am nub, can you please tell me how is 55 Mil in USD. I am little confused.
MaddTraveler
02-08-23, 23:50
I was in MDE for about 2 weeks. Here are my report so people can get some benefits going either first timers or veterans.
From Airport: You can either take bus to San Diego or el Centro (behind Nutibara Hotel) for 16 mil and then taxi to your place OR you can take taxi / uber directly to your place (about 90 mil now).
I mostly did centro casa either solo or with another ISG member (BarrioSpinner) and then chill around centro for lunch / coffee then hit up the grills (Conejita or Nueva). Centro Casas route: New Life (3 mil viewing if you don't take a girl), Sexy Amigas, or Zandaly. They all within 3-5 blocks of each other. For addresses, use the posted map. I checked out New Life a few times but never took anyone there.
Zandaly- Beer 5 mil, girl 55 mil for half. Giselle- Thin spinner, she has some type of butt injection so you see marks on her butts, good service, kisses. Cristal- A little bigger than expected, big shaggy tits, recently had a baby, okay service. Estafania- Nice body, fake tits, but cute face. Charlotte- Dark mulata vennie, cute face but the overly done fake ass that doesn't match her thin body kind of a turn off when on d4 jaja, asked for propina. Mia- nice face and body, fake tits with scar marks.
Sexy Amigas. Beer 7 mil, girl 65 mil for half. Estrella- Thin spinner, curly hair, hottest looking girl in there, kisses but no tongue, 50 mil for BBBJ. Daniella- Thick chica, fake tits, but not overly done, standard service.
Went to Conjeta a few times but never sessioned. Checked it out and chill with a beer or two, then went to Nueva. BarrioSpinner sessioned here a few times. Girl wanted 100 mil to 150 mil for half. Beer is 8 or 9 mil.
Nueva Grill- beer / water 8 mil, cost is depend on each girl. Maria Jose- 21 yo, very thin and short vennie with braces, 75 mil half. She was actually quite friendly and engaging with the conversation afterward. These girls after I cannot make up the names because it was hard to hear with loud music. 2nd chica is from Bello- this girl looks a bit masculine from afar with the club light but when she is close, she's a good looking chica, thin spinner, with great smile, 80 mil half. She has a few small tattoos and one between the collar bones. 3rd chica- thin spinner, she has a crown tattoo on her right butt. This chica got into it, does DT and sucked pretty well, but talked too much, asked for propina. Genesis (I think) - thin spinner, she comes with her older sister who is slightly thicker. She has a heart tattoo on her left arm, and her older sister has a wraparound tattoo on the left thigh. Only negative is when doing d4, she kept pushing her ass to me and it was hard for me to get any thrust.Good report man glad you enjoyed. Let's bring this forum back to life w actual pussy discussion. I just bookd for this Fri and will stay for 10 days. One of my regulars convinced me and your report helped LOL.
I know a few independent girls that do bareback with me and I myself prefer it. I would not think that Casa's would be a good place for this, you would want the low volume independent girls that do this on occassion. Message me for details.
Vere interesting. Could you tell me if girls allow you to bareback?
I rent AirBnB's on all of my trips to Medellin. My first trip I stayed in El Poblado and the last 5 trips Laureles. There are tons of Bars in Laureles on the Setenta although getting a place too close to the Setenta would be really noisy until around 4:00 am. I usually try to be around 6 blocks away from the action. Make sure you vette your AirBnB and make sure they are guest friendly before reserving.
I am not seeing reports of guys renting AirBnBs in Medellin. Is AirBnB a good coice for a longer stay?
In what colonia are the bars? I wouldn't want to rent a long term place too far from the action.
As for Airbnb, I have found some that appear to be friendly, but seems they are located in noisy areas and might not be as clean as advertised; any good experiences with Airbnb?Miamiboy suggested airbnb for me 3/33 great location and walking distance to whatever you need. I had 3 girls per day visit me and no issue with front desk and no extra charge for the girl.
Enjoy.
Low volume.
I know a few independent girls that do bareback with me and I myself prefer it. I would not think that Casa's would be a good place for this, you would want the low volume independent girls that do this on occassion. Message me for details.
The American media personality Megyn Kelly does not approve of our lifestyle https://nypost.com/2023/02/08/megyn-kelly-blasts-leonardo-dicaprio-for-banging-teenagers/.
Let's make sure everyone understands the park is being remodeled yes! But everything around is open and girls all around etc. It's not closed!Parque LLeras is not accessible. It is barricaded. It is indeed closed.
Yes, it is being remodeled and yes the streets and bars around it are generally open. Much of the action is on Calle 10.
FlowState985
02-09-23, 04:16
Thank you Flowstate for the detailed info, I am nub, can you please tell me how is 55 Mil in USD. I am little confused.You can just use Xe.com convert COP to USD. 55 mil is 55000 col pesos or 11.55 usd. Mil is a thousand in spanish.
Anthony2023
02-09-23, 04:41
I stayed at a airbnb on my recent trip. Located above the city in las palmas with a breathtaking view of medellin, many have said its the best view of the city on airbnb and I can't see any other property that's better located for this. It was a really nice high rise on the 16th floor out of 17 and security was located at the front gate. Visitors have to have cedula and they take a picture of each visitor thru a security camera. Also was only a 5-10 min ride to provenza. I believe la isla was only walking distance but I didn't have time to visit, I'm sure it would be very convenient to take isla girls back to this place. Roughly around 130 usd a night so not too bad. The only downside was only 1 guest is allowed at one time, so if you're looking to do trios I suggest someplace else other than airbnbs because most won't allow more than 1 guest at a time.
You can tell the hot manager that you don't want presentation then you don't have to pay. This is when you go with a friend and you don't plan to session. I remember that viewing fee is 4 mil.
Vere interesting. Could you tell me if girls allow you to bareback?Depends on the girl and it will cost extra but yes just have to ask them individually.
Depends on the girl and it will cost extra but yes just have to ask them individually.I'm going to Medellin next month, and I already asked many girls on facebook who are totally OK to fuck bareback! Even some colombian pornstars!
DonMedellin
02-09-23, 17:08
Ellas Erotic https://ellaserotic.com/models/prepagos/
Solid report, thanks. I was a regular at Ellas Erotic when they first opened. Service was really good. Since I was having sessions there regularly, they treated me well. Maybe things have changed, but I plan on visiting them again to see if they would treat me like before.
HarryDubois
02-09-23, 18:01
One thing which I have noticed is that every single first hand (not something heard from someone, etc) account of scopolamine attacks which I have been able to find online.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2762340#post2762340.
https://youtu.be/4D8CHyaJTfg
https://youtu.be/6x7u6JSXv_w
https://youtu.be/SwQWdbeFW40
Involves a non-pro. There is never any discussion about paying for the date. The girl is allegedly just interested in a normal date / hook up (even if he is 54 and she is 28!) and then everything goes black for the victim and when he regains consciousness all his money is gone.
Is it fair to assume that a WGs, whether met on the street, Tinder, Facebook, seeking or whatever, are very very unlikely to drug you? Could this be because she has a job, she doesn't want to get arrested or get a bad reputation online and therefore she doesn't want to get involved in the drugging and robbing business?
I had a good time when I went to Ellas back in January. I saw Zoe and she was a pro in the good sense of the word (I. E. Good at her job and good people skills). I don't know if their lineup is as extensive as they claim I actually asked who else was working when I showed up (I misbooked at Colores instead of there) and they showed me Zoe and another chica. That might be my one critique. But I would definitely go back, especially if I stay in Santa Monica again as the America location was only 5 minute walk from my apartment.
Solid report, thanks. I was a regular at Ellas Erotic when they first opened. Service was really good. Since I was having sessions there regularly, they treated me well. Maybe things have changed, but I plan on visiting them again to see if they would treat me like before.
I'm going to Medellin next month, and I already asked many girls on facebook who are totally OK to fuck bareback! Even some colombian pornstars!I will give you my experience and I think this is more accurate. Some girls will bare back, most girls will not. This is my experience with Facebook girls. If you ask 10, maybe 3 or perhaps 4 will say yes. It is not the case that all girls or even most girls will say yes. Unlike the Philippines, the girls here seem to more aware of the risks of barebacking and they are concerned about catching STDs. Your rate of success will depend upon which girls you are asking, of course.
But the lure of money is very strong, and so it is true that if you ask enough girls, you will be able to be bareback enough girls for your trip. But don't expect most girls to agree. Some girls were asked for a higher rate for barebacking.
Thank you Flowstate for the detailed info, I am nub, can you please tell me how is 55 Mil in USD. I am little confused.Current exchange rate is 4750 COP per dollar. For estimates I use 4500 to 1. 55 mil is 55,000 (mil or k means thousand). At today's rate is under $12 USD. At my approximation rate, it's a bit over $12.
The American media personality Megyn Kelly does not approve of our lifestyle https://nypost.com/2023/02/08/megyn-kelly-blasts-leonardo-dicaprio-for-banging-teenagers/.That's fair. I've never approved of her.
You hear women saying how terrible it is all the time, but put a bunch of them together and put on a movie with some young stud barely dressed and you'll need a mop.
I stayed at a airbnb on my recent trip. Located above the city in las palmas with a breathtaking view of medellin, many have said its the best view of the city on airbnb and I can't see any other property that's better located for this. It was a really nice high rise on the 16th floor out of 17 and security was located at the front gate. Visitors have to have cedula and they take a picture of each visitor thru a security camera. Also was only a 5-10 min ride to provenza. I believe la isla was only walking distance but I didn't have time to visit, I'm sure it would be very convenient to take isla girls back to this place. Roughly around 130 usd a night so not too bad. The only downside was only 1 guest is allowed at one time, so if you're looking to do trios I suggest someplace else other than airbnbs because most won't allow more than 1 guest at a time.It's walking distance to Provenza, but the walk back is a pain.
Multiple girls take to Motel Ibiza. Less risk, more room and a stripper pole.
You can tell the hot manager that you don't want presentation then you don't have to pay. This is when you go with a friend and you don't plan to session. I remember that viewing fee is 4 mil.Or just buy a beer. If I'm going with a friend and I'll be waiting, ill get a beer and enjoy the parade every time the lineup comes out.
I'm going to Medellin next month, and I already asked many girls on facebook who are totally OK to fuck bareback! Even some colombian pornstars!What's offered in messages before you're in Colombia is often much different from what is offered when the girl is standing in front of you.
The girl's goal is to get into your room. She doesn't get paid if she doesn't get in your room (unless you're foolish enough to pay in advance). Many will say yes to anything to get in the door.
Also consider, saying "no", or directly contradicting someone goes against Colombian social norms. A better approach is to draw them out on subjects. Instead of direct yes / no questions. Ask what they like, work them around to talking about a subject.
What's offered in messages before you're in Colombia is often much different from what is offered when the girl is standing in front of you.
The girl's goal is to get into your room. She doesn't get paid if she doesn't get in your room (unless you're foolish enough to pay in advance). Many will say yes to anything to get in the door.
Also consider, saying "no", or directly contradicting someone goes against Colombian social norms. A better approach is to draw them out on subjects. Instead of direct yes / no questions. Ask what they like, work them around to talking about a subject.Also keep in mind many of the accounts are fake and they never have any intention of ever coming to your place, they will agree to anything and will try to get you to send money beforehand.
I'm seeing so many fake profiles. I have a tiktok account where I follow a bunch of sexy girls, which I'm sure you many of you do as well. Well as I was browsing fb adding chicas, I saw one of the tiktok girls on fb. Messaged her, asked her how much for her to come over. She said 250. I confirmed it was indeed 250 mil pesos and not USD. Well I thought damn, I get to be with a semi famous tiktok girl. We continue to message on whatsapp. She wants 250 plus 50 each way for taxi. Well that's 350. Far off from 250. So I tell her I normally pay 200 + taxi. She says that since its the first time she will pay for her own taxi 1 way and only charge me 50 for the other way. How kind! Okay, I ask to video call. I call but she doesn't pick up. Instead she sends me more fotos and a video of "herself". She's hot enough, I say okay, just come over, Ill meet her at a public spot so if she's not who she says she is, I can ditch her. Then it comes. She sends me her nequis phone number and asks me to send her 50 k for her taxi before she comes over. BAM! Scam!
Anatomy of a scam:
- semi famous tiktoker / instagram girl.
- does not want to videocall.
- asks for money before hand.
GoodBYE!
Its actually really quite suprising how many girls I recognize from tiktok that I have randomly encountered on facebook.
I will give you my experience and I think this is more accurate. Some girls will bare back, most girls will not. This is my experience with Facebook girls. If you ask 10, maybe 3 or perhaps 4 will say yes. It is not the case that all girls or even most girls will say yes. Unlike the Philippines, the girls here seem to more aware of the risks of barebacking and they are concerned about catching STDs. Your rate of success will depend upon which girls you are asking, of course.
But the lure of money is very strong, and so it is true that if you ask enough girls, you will be able to be bareback enough girls for your trip. But don't expect most girls to agree. Some girls were asked for a higher rate for barebacking.I don't have any problem to pay more for barebacking. In fact I don't care of the price. All what I want is a young sexy lady 18/25 who will let me do BBFS. It can be 50 ? 100 ? Or Even 300 ? If the girl doesn bareback and is nice with me, no problem for me to pay.
Solid report, thanks. I was a regular at Ellas Erotic when they first opened. Service was really good. Since I was having sessions there regularly, they treated me well. Maybe things have changed, but I plan on visiting them again to see if they would treat me like before.How does it work this website Ellaserotic? Do we need to call them to book a girl before? I went on their website and I'm very interested in Angel, Samantha and Lorena. Did you meet them? How much do they ask to fuck? Do they accept BBFS if we pay more?
I don't find their adress on the website.
Can you tell me more? Are they exactly the girls of the pictures? Or they use photoshop a lot?
Anthony2023
02-10-23, 02:12
It's walking distance to Provenza, but the walk back is a pain.
Multiple girls take to Motel Ibiza. Less risk, more room and a stripper pole.I wouldn't recommend walking.
I'm thinking energy living for my next trip, I heard they are fine with trios.
Or just buy a beer. If I'm going with a friend and I'll be waiting, ill get a beer and enjoy the parade every time the lineup comes out.Then it will cost you about 8 mil, instead of 4 to get the same thing.
The person that your messaging may be a dude that works for organized crime or a casa.
One time I thought I was messaging a tall Vennie and she had all the goodies that I was looking for on Milerotico. I invite her to my AirBnB a block from Parque Lleras, she shows up and I asked her about some of the things on the ad and and messaged stuff she had a blank look and did not understand what I was asking about. (BTW I do speak Spanish). At that point I figured out that she must be working for an agency or something like that. We get down to business and I really did enjoy my session with her. So afterwards we were chatting at the table and I asked her for her WhatsApp phone number and she gave it to me. Later on in the evening I started getting strange messages on my WhatsApp from her. A picture of an elderly man (some family resemblance to the girl). Then a picture of a man walking up to the Pearly Gates. Well that really freaked me out and I deleted her number pretty quick.
I stick with the Independents now and one thing that I do to help me filter out the ads is run the phone number on the Milerotico search and if more than 1 girl shows up in the ads I move on. Another thing that I'll do is Google the phone number without the Country code and sometimes you can find local reviews on them.
What's offered in messages before you're in Colombia is often much different from what is offered when the girl is standing in front of you.
The girl's goal is to get into your room. She doesn't get paid if she doesn't get in your room (unless you're foolish enough to pay in advance). Many will say yes to anything to get in the door.
Also consider, saying "no", or directly contradicting someone goes against Colombian social norms. A better approach is to draw them out on subjects. Instead of direct yes / no questions. Ask what they like, work them around to talking about a subject.
One thing which I have noticed is that every single first hand (not something heard from someone, etc) account of scopolamine attacks which I have been able to find online.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2762340#post2762340.
https://youtu.be/4D8CHyaJTfg
https://youtu.be/6x7u6JSXv_w
https://youtu.be/SwQWdbeFW40
Involves a non-pro. There is never any discussion about paying for the date. The girl is allegedly just interested in a normal date / hook up (even if he is 54 and she is 28!) and then everything goes black for the victim and when he regains consciousness all his money is gone.
Is it fair to assume that a WGs, whether met on the street, Tinder, Facebook, seeking or whatever, are very very unlikely to drug you? Could this be because she has a job, she doesn't want to get arrested or get a bad reputation online and therefore she doesn't want to get involved in the drugging and robbing business?It's not safe to assume anything.
However, I'll assume that many guys don't want to publicly declare they were trying to fuck a hooker and got drugged and robbed.
The first thing a good gun safety course should teach is the gun is always loaded until you have personally verified it's not loaded. If you hand the gun to someone and they hand it back, it's once again a loaded gun until you check it again. It should be automatic, every time you pick up a gun, you verify whether or not it's loaded.
That's the basic idea with your drink. It doesn't matter who you're drinking with. If the drink leaves your sight, or leaves your control treat it as if it's been loaded.
How many times do we have to go over this? Do not pay up front. Don't do it.
Also keep in mind many of the accounts are fake and they never have any intention of ever coming to your place, they will agree to anything and will try to get you to send money beforehand.
I'm seeing so many fake profiles. I have a tiktok account where I follow a bunch of sexy girls, which I'm sure you many of you do as well. Well as I was browsing fb adding chicas, I saw one of the tiktok girls on fb. Messaged her, asked her how much for her to come over. She said 250. I confirmed it was indeed 250 mil pesos and not USD. Well I thought damn, I get to be with a semi famous tiktok girl. We continue to message on whatsapp. She wants 250 plus 50 each way for taxi. Well that's 350. Far off from 250. So I tell her I normally pay 200 + taxi. She says that since its the first time she will pay for her own taxi 1 way and only charge me 50 for the other way. How kind! Okay, I ask to video call. I call but she doesn't pick up. Instead she sends me more fotos and a video of "herself". She's hot enough, I say okay, just come over, Ill meet her at a public spot so if she's not who she says she is, I can ditch her. Then it comes. She sends me her nequis phone number and asks me to send her 50 k for her taxi before she comes over. BAM! Scam!
Anatomy of a scam:
- semi famous tiktoker / instagram girl.
- does not want to videocall.
- asks for money before hand.
GoodBYE!
Its actually really quite suprising how many girls I recognize from tiktok that I have randomly encountered on facebook.
Nothing personal but I think what you suggested is a foolish assumption.
One thing which I have noticed is that every single first hand (not something heard from someone, etc) account of scopolamine attacks which I have been able to find online.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2762340#post2762340.
https://youtu.be/4D8CHyaJTfg
https://youtu.be/6x7u6JSXv_w
https://youtu.be/SwQWdbeFW40
Involves a non-pro. There is never any discussion about paying for the date. The girl is allegedly just interested in a normal date / hook up (even if he is 54 and she is 28!) and then everything goes black for the victim and when he regains consciousness all his money is gone.
Is it fair to assume that a WGs, whether met on the street, Tinder, Facebook, seeking or whatever, are very very unlikely to drug you? Could this be because she has a job, she doesn't want to get arrested or get a bad reputation online and therefore she doesn't want to get involved in the drugging and robbing business?
It depends on the AirBnB, The last one I had the guest limit was 6, ready for that 5 some.
I stayed at a airbnb on my recent trip. Located above the city in las palmas with a breathtaking view of medellin, many have said its the best view of the city on airbnb and I can't see any other property that's better located for this. It was a really nice high rise on the 16th floor out of 17 and security was located at the front gate. Visitors have to have cedula and they take a picture of each visitor thru a security camera. Also was only a 5-10 min ride to provenza. I believe la isla was only walking distance but I didn't have time to visit, I'm sure it would be very convenient to take isla girls back to this place. Roughly around 130 usd a night so not too bad. The only downside was only 1 guest is allowed at one time, so if you're looking to do trios I suggest someplace else other than airbnbs because most won't allow more than 1 guest at a time.
Anthony2023
02-10-23, 06:48
The person that your messaging may be a dude that works for organized crime or a casa.
One time I thought I was messaging a tall Vennie and she had all the goodies that I was looking for on Milerotico. I invite her to my AirBnB a block from Parque Lleras, she shows up and I asked her about some of the things on the ad and and messaged stuff she had a blank look and did not understand what I was asking about. (BTW I do speak Spanish). At that point I figured out that she must be working for an agency or something like that. We get down to business and I really did enjoy my session with her. So afterwards we were chatting at the table and I asked her for her WhatsApp phone number and she gave it to me. Later on in the evening I started getting strange messages on my WhatsApp from her. A picture of an elderly man (some family resemblance to the girl). Then a picture of a man walking up to the Pearly Gates. Well that really freaked me out and I deleted her number pretty quick.
I stick with the Independents now and one thing that I do to help me filter out the ads is run the phone number on the Milerotico search and if more than 1 girl shows up in the ads I move on. Another thing that I'll do is Google the phone number without the Country code and sometimes you can find local reviews on them.I found that out when I went to a casa in laurales late at night. Girl had no clue what we had agreed on prior to meeting, I messaged the number calling them out on their lie and walked out and my night turned out to be better because I picked up a really hot brick house vennie at a club in lleras. A easier way to find out if a girl is a independent or agency girl is by messaging several and if you get the same pretty much word for word generic message from several of them than you'll know which ones are agency, don't even bother asking them questions because its somebody who is replying back for all the agency girls.
One thing which I have noticed is that every single first hand (not something heard from someone, etc) account of scopolamine attacks which I have been able to find online.
Involves a non-pro. There is never any discussion about paying for the date. The girl is allegedly just interested in a normal date / hook up (even if he is 54 and she is 28!) and then everything goes black for the victim and when he regains consciousness all his money is gone.
Is it fair to assume that a WGs, whether met on the street, Tinder, Facebook, seeking or whatever, are very very unlikely to drug you? Could this be because she has a job, she doesn't want to get arrested or get a bad reputation online and therefore she doesn't want to get involved in the drugging and robbing business?The scenario you describe is indeed how it happened to me. But all of those girls you listed are pros. Including the girls that go on dates and drug and rob people; they are professional robbers.
What is a casa girl's typical work hours like? 6 days a week, 4 pm-12 pm sound right to anyone? Casas must have a standard, otherwise they can't rely on a girl to show up.
One thing which I have noticed is that every single first hand (not something heard from someone, etc) account of scopolamine attacks which I have been able to find online.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2762340#post2762340.
https://youtu.be/4D8CHyaJTfg
https://youtu.be/6x7u6JSXv_w
https://youtu.be/SwQWdbeFW40
Involves a non-pro. There is never any discussion about paying for the date. The girl is allegedly just interested in a normal date / hook up (even if he is 54 and she is 28!) and then everything goes black for the victim and when he regains consciousness all his money is gone.
Is it fair to assume that a WGs, whether met on the street, Tinder, Facebook, seeking or whatever, are very very unlikely to drug you? Could this be because she has a job, she doesn't want to get arrested or get a bad reputation online and therefore she doesn't want to get involved in the drugging and robbing business?The organized gangs that do this pose as prostitutes or not. Whatever suits the situation. But when there are standing offers to working girls to scope their clients I would say that of the thousands of cases most involve working girls. That is where the opportunity is.
Working girls are contacted and told that if they can scope a customer and then call the number and let the gang in the door they will get a much larger payoff than just what they have been paid. Even if only a small percentage of working girls become part of this it is a huge risk factor for potential customers. And this is happening.
Some casa's have only staffed girls and some have staffed and independents that will rent space there. Some Casas are only space that independents rent with no management. If you have a certain girl that you would like to session with you it would be wise to make an appointment with the casa or girl beforehand. Hours would depend on the Casa and girls typical hours could be all over the place, part time, full time, independent.
What is a casa girl's typical work hours like? 6 days a week, 4 pm-12 pm sound right to anyone? Casas must have a standard, otherwise they can't rely on a girl to show up.
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What is a casa girl's typical work hours like? 6 days a week, 4 pm-12 pm sound right to anyone? Casas must have a standard, otherwise they can't rely on a girl to show up.Its usually around 9/10 am to 6/7 pm. Might be 5/6/7 days per week.
HarryDubois
02-10-23, 18:46
The organized gangs that do this pose as prostitutes or not. Whatever suits the situation. But when there are standing offers to working girls to scope their clients I would say that of the thousands of cases most involve working girls. That is where the opportunity is.Considering that Medellin is the world's number 1 sex tourism destination (based on the number of posts on this site) and so much of the sex between gringos and Paisas is pay for play, which is legal, I would have thought that the drugging and robbery victims would be 90% mongers.
I was surprised however that so far (and I've just started researching this) every single first hand account of drugging and robbing involves a non-pro. Someone meets a young woman usually on tinder but maybe at a bar, no payment is requested, they head to his place for some privacy and suddenly it's two days later and everything is gone.
Here's my theory however if someone can prove me wrong please do.
Unless you're Brad Pitt a Medellin nonpro is not going to have sex with you for free on the first date. If she's agreeing to go to bed with you she wants money. If she's a WG so you agree on a price and it's all good. If she's not a WG then she's still going to get paid. She's going to rob you.
Considering that Medellin is the world's number 1 sex tourism destination (based on the number of posts on this site) and so much of the sex between gringos and Paisas is pay for play, which is legal, I would have thought that the drugging and robbery victims would be 90% mongers.
I was surprised however that so far (and I've just started researching this) every single first hand account of drugging and robbing involves a non-pro. Someone meets a young woman usually on tinder but maybe at a bar, no payment is requested, they head to his place for some privacy and suddenly it's two days later and everything is gone.
Here's my theory however if someone can prove me wrong please do.
Unless you're Brad Pitt a Medellin nonpro is not going to have sex with you for free on the first date. If she's agreeing to go to bed with you she wants money. If she's a WG so you agree on a price and it's all good. If she's not a WG then she's still going to get paid. She's going to rob you.It was several years ago when I read somewhere on a Colombian site about the 50 to 100,000 scopolamine poisonings per year in Colombia. So certainly many, or most, would be Colombian. Every person I know of that has been scoped it was by working girls. But, being that all of those people are mongers that also is not surprising. We were also told by a police captain in Medellin that this is very common with working girls in Parque Lleras, for example. Someone else on this site also mentioned that girls had told him that they were given a standing offer, that if they would do the scoping then the gang would give them a piece of the profit, so basically they could scope someone if the opportunity arose, or perhaps if they were pissed at that client. They carried the drug, and all they needed to do was slip it in a drink, call these guys, leave the door open, and leave.
Anyway, I read your initial post to suggest that working girls are less likely to be involved in scoping. I don't think that is a safe assumption, as they are more likely to be in a position to drug clients than anyone else.
Considering that Medellin is the world's number 1 sex tourism destination (based on the number of posts on this site) and so much of the sex between gringos and Paisas is pay for play, which is legal, I would have thought that the drugging and robbery victims would be 90% mongers.
I was surprised however that so far (and I've just started researching this) every single first hand account of drugging and robbing involves a non-pro. Someone meets a young woman usually on tinder but maybe at a bar, no payment is requested, they head to his place for some privacy and suddenly it's two days later and everything is gone.
Here's my theory however if someone can prove me wrong please do.
Unless you're Brad Pitt a Medellin nonpro is not going to have sex with you for free on the first date. If she's agreeing to go to bed with you she wants money. If she's a WG so you agree on a price and it's all good. If she's not a WG then she's still going to get paid. She's going to rob you.Medellin is not the world's number 1 sex tourism destination. Thailand is much bigger a destination. I don't think it is even in the top 5. The number of posts on this site only indicates that guys are more likely to post about Medellin on this website and not that it is the world's biggest sex tourism destination.
HarryDubois
02-11-23, 00:18
Every person I know of that has been scoped it was by working girls. But, being that all of those people are mongers that also is not surprising. We were also told by a police captain in Medellin that this is very common with working girls in Parque Lleras, for example.
Anyway, I read your initial post to suggest that working girls are less likely to be involved in scoping. I don't think that is a safe assumption, as they are more likely to be in a position to drug clients than anyone else.That makes sense to me. After all if you're a WG why settle for $60 from sex when you can get $6,000 from robbery? It's just interesting that not one of those victims to my knowledge has put their story on the internet. I would expect to seek in capital letters all over this forum and the rest of the internet: AVOID COLOMBIAN WOMEN EXCEPT IN A BROTHEL. You can assume, hopefully, that the brothel (or strip club, massage clinic or whatever they choose to call it) manager won't want to destroy his business with a drugged and robbed incident. But anywhere else, who knows? Are you going to stop consuming liquids during your entire visit?
That makes sense to me. After all if you're a WG why settle for $60 from sex when you can get $6,000 from robbery? It's just interesting that not one of those victims to my knowledge has put their story on the internet. I would expect to seek in capital letters all over this forum and the rest of the internet: AVOID COLOMBIAN WOMEN EXCEPT IN A BROTHEL. You can assume, hopefully, that the brothel (or strip club, massage clinic or whatever they choose to call it) manager won't want to destroy his business with a drugged and robbed incident. But anywhere else, who knows? Are you going to stop consuming liquids during your entire visit?Mongers are not ready to tell the world that they are mongers. So you won't find these stories on the internet very often. Guys I know that got scoped barely will admit it to their best friends let alone wife, family, kids back home, etc.
The casas, and clubs, generally would be safer. I know the bars tend to watch out for their customers as well. They will open drinks in front of you so you know it wasn't tampered with, and try to protect their clients in general.
So with consuming liquids. Open the bottle yourself then you know if it was properly sealed. Don't let anyone bring you an open drink. It is very hard to get scoped if you don't ingest it in a drink. Take your drink with you if you go to the bathroom. Or get the bartender to put it in a safe place for you until you get back.
And if you want to risk a date on Tinder or something make sure you get a picture of the ID and the woman and send them to a friend. Adds a bit of disincentive if a chica may be thinking of something harmful to you. See the chica in a place that takes pictures and verifies the cedula of anyone with you. These don't guarantee safety, but go a long ways.
Mr Enternational
02-11-23, 03:18
Medellin is not the world's number 1 sex tourism destination. Thailand is much bigger a destination. I don't think it is even in the top 5.You do not need to know where to go in Thailand. You simply show up and you are in the middle of everything.
HarryDubois
02-11-23, 03:59
Mongers are not ready to tell the world that they are mongers. So you won't find these stories on the internet very often. Guys I know that got scoped barely will admit it to their best friends let alone wife, family, kids back home, etc.On this forum I think no one would be embarrassed to say that they met a WG and got drugged and robbed. But no one has said it. The one person here who tells his story specifically says it was a non-pro. It's strange.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2762340#post2762340.
About drinks, this fellow says that he went to a hotel room with a non-pro whom he had met on Tinder. He was given a sealed aluminum can of beer. He wiped the top of the can with his shirt then opened the beer and drank. He awoke three days later with $7,000 missing.
https://youtu.be/6x7u6JSXv_w?t=468
Anyway, here is my personal plan. Land in Medellin. Take a taxi which I have reserved in advance through booking.com to my airbnb in El Poblado. Stay there for a week with a girl who I have already met through seeking.com. Probably go out to some clubs with her if she wants to. Give her a million pesos at the beginning of each day. That sounds fair to me for the company of a beautiful college aged girl. Take the taxi back to the airport and go home.
As soon as I arrive in my room but before anyone else shows up, I'll take some duct tape. Put my passport and $200 into an envelope. Tape that to the back of a picture or the back of the TV screen. If anything horrible happens, I will have money for food and I will be able to board my return flight.
Not sure if anyone brought tickets for Super Bowl party, but I just received email saying only quests now can attend, something to do with with fire department estipulations, their now not allowed to have more then 100 people at a time on property! Hmmmmm,
DonCarlos1234
02-11-23, 09:28
Medellin is not the world's number 1 sex tourism destination. Thailand is much bigger a destination. I don't think it is even in the top 5. The number of posts on this site only indicates that guys are more likely to post about Medellin on this website and not that it is the world's biggest sex tourism destination.Colombia is such a beautiful country. In the top 10 (or so?) in the world for stupid gringos to go on marriage tours. (https://loveme.com/tour/order/latin-tour-order.shtml) yet answer me this. Why do girls (madams) refer their girlfriends to me when I am there? Is that not considered pimping?
Mr Enternational
02-11-23, 10:21
Why do girls (madams) refer their girlfriends to me when I am there? Is that not considered pimping?Is it pimping for guys here to recommend chicks to each other?
Colombia is such a beautiful country. In the top 10 (or so?) in the world for stupid gringos to go on marriage tours. (https://loveme.com/tour/order/latin-tour-order.shtml) yet answer me this. Why do girls (madams) refer their girlfriends to me when I am there? Is that not considered pimping?You are a client and they want their girlfriends to make some money with you. I also suspect that they are getting a commission from girlfriends if they see you. When I turn down a girl or we can't come to an agreement, sometimes they will recommend a girl who will agree to my terms. I rarely see the referrals because I prefer to do my own research on a girl.
I've been to Medellin 3 times. I can tell you for a fact the best way to not get scoped is avoid bringing girls from parque Llleras, gusto, and online. Especially if it's an apartment. If it's a hotel where they give I'the, it's lower risk. Street girls are your highest risk. Lowest risk is getting a girl from a casa or la isla for later. I have never had an issue if I had a good session with a girl. The best part about Medellin is the flake rate for hotel after work is much lower than Mexico or Brazil. Mexico flake rate from hk is 90%, Brazil is 50%, Medellin is a surprisingly 20% in my experiences. If you are renting an apartment be very careful bringing those types home.
I would think that one would have to me getting paid or benefit from the service provided by the girl to be considered a pimp. I have been known to recommend girls that I like but never considered myself a pimp. If I was it were true it would be a really bad business model.
Is it pimping for guys here to recommend chicks to each other?
RakSopheni
02-11-23, 18:26
Medellin is not the world's number 1 sex tourism destination. Thailand is much bigger a destination. I don't think it is even in the top 5. The number of posts on this site only indicates that guys are more likely to post about Medellin on this website and not that it is the world's biggest sex tourism destination.Total agreement here. The high number of posts in the Medellin thread indicates only that proximal to the United States, it is the closest and lowest hanging fruit. As for size-for all intents and purposes the entire city of Pattaya in Thailand is a red-light district. In the Western Hemisphere, Rio de Janeiro has far more P2 P options. Columbia is cheap and close- and some mongers prefer Latinas to Asians and don't mind covered sex. The lower Forum activity in the Bangkok and Pattaya thread indicate to me that the logistics are so easy relative to MDE and others such that intel / recon is less necessary. Also the place is flooded with mongers, so there's not as much need to search for camaraderie online.
Anthony2023
02-11-23, 18:56
Anyway, here is my personal plan. Land in Medellin. Take a taxi which I have reserved in advance through booking.com to my airbnb in El Poblado. Stay there for a week with a girl who I have already met through seeking.com. Probably go out to some clubs with her if she wants to. Give her a million pesos at the beginning of each day. That sounds fair to me for the company of a beautiful college aged girl. Take the taxi back to the airport and go home.
As soon as I arrive in my room but before anyone else shows up, I'll take some duct tape. Put my passport and $200 into an envelope. Tape that to the back of a picture or the back of the TV screen. If anything horrible happens, I will have money for food and I will be able to board my return flight.You already fucked up when you mentioned taxi. Don't use taxi. Only Uber or DiDi.
If I was you only keep the girl 2 or 3 days at most. Offer her 500 k with the option for her to stay with you if she wants. Why giver her another 500 k just to sleep.
Give her the money at the end of each day.
The only regret I had was not visiting any pros. Sure the GFE is nice but medellin has some really good pro talent and cheap, on my next trip I hope to partake on that. Also would recommend you find girls in the clubs at lleras if your seeking girl is into trios.
HarryDubois
02-11-23, 19:15
The lower Forum activity in the Bangkok and Pattaya thread indicate to me that the logistics are so easy relative to MDE and others such that intel / recon is less necessary. Also the place is flooded with mongers, so there's not as much need to search for camaraderie online.I think that there is something about Latinas which other women just haven't got. That's my personal, although limited, experience so far.
I'm not saying that Medellin is necessarily the world's biggest center of working girls however in terms of having the most men per year visiting from other countries primarily for the purpose of having sex with local women, if Medellin is not #1 it's surely a top contender. The Guinness Book of World Records needs to investigate.
. The lower Forum activity in the Bangkok and Pattaya thread indicate to me that the logistics are so easy relative to MDE and others such that intel / recon is less necessary. Also the place is flooded with mongers, so there's not as much need to search for camaraderie online.There are also several dedicated forums that are extremely popular.
I've been to Medellin 3 times. I can tell you for a fact the best way to not get scoped is avoid bringing girls from parque Llleras, gusto, and online. Especially if it's an apartment. If it's a hotel where they give I'the, it's lower risk. Street girls are your highest risk. Lowest risk is getting a girl from a casa or la isla for later. I have never had an issue if I had a good session with a girl. The best part about Medellin is the flake rate for hotel after work is much lower than Mexico or Brazil. Mexico flake rate from hk is 90%, Brazil is 50%, Medellin is a surprisingly 20% in my experiences. If you are renting an apartment be very careful bringing those types home.I hate "facts", especially when someone has to stress they are "facts" instead of conclusions based on their experience. Don't get worked up.
Many apartments have tighter entry security than some hotels. Some hotels you're able to bypass security with a girl. Each person should consider the level of security which they feel is necessary. There are advantages to both apartments and hotels, depending on each person's situation.
Any girl is a potential risk. The biggest risk appears to be Tinder, but it's a bad idea to assume a girl is safe because of where you found her. Your focus should be on not providing the opportunity to anyone. It also means not letting everyone know you're a good target. The same advice that's been offered for years still works.
1. Don't advertise your wealth.
2. Don't get wasted.
3. Watch your drink at all times.
Total agreement here. The high number of posts in the Medellin thread indicates only that proximal to the United States, it is the closest and lowest hanging fruit. As for size-for all intents and purposes the entire city of Pattaya in Thailand is a red-light district. In the Western Hemisphere, Rio de Janeiro has far more P2 P options. Columbia is cheap and close- and some mongers prefer Latinas to Asians and don't mind covered sex. The lower Forum activity in the Bangkok and Pattaya thread indicate to me that the logistics are so easy relative to MDE and others such that intel / recon is less necessary. Also the place is flooded with mongers, so there's not as much need to search for camaraderie online.The high number of posts for Medellin and Colombia in general are because this board has been the go to board for these places from a way back. Other boards cover Thailand for example. I don't think you can read anything more into it than that. It's just a history.
Anthony2023
02-12-23, 02:55
I've been to Medellin 3 times. I can tell you for a fact the best way to not get scoped is avoid bringing girls from parque Llleras, gusto, and online. Especially if it's an apartment. If it's a hotel where they give I'the, it's lower risk. Street girls are your highest risk. Lowest risk is getting a girl from a casa or la isla for later. I have never had an issue if I had a good session with a girl. The best part about Medellin is the flake rate for hotel after work is much lower than Mexico or Brazil. Mexico flake rate from hk is 90%, Brazil is 50%, Medellin is a surprisingly 20% in my experiences. If you are renting an apartment be very careful bringing those types home.What do you mean "flake" rate by hk in mexico? Are you saying the odds of a girl meeting you outside of the club?
HarryDubois
02-12-23, 03:03
I'm a bit skeptical about the drugging and robbing issue in Medellin.
My question is this: Is it a greater risk than risk of traffic accidents in the US?
Unofficial estimates put the number of annual scopolamine incidents in Colombia at approximately 50,000. /.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130315175638/https://www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=12118
During the first half of 2022,*El Poblado experienced*2 homicides and 1587 thefts from persons.
https://www.medellinadvisors.com/homicide-theft-in-medellin-2022-mid-year-figures/
These are the only statistics which seem at all relevant which I can find.
There were 42,915 motor vehicle deaths in the US in 2021. Approximately 4. 8 million people were seriously injured in automobile collisions in the US in 2020. The US has about six and a half times the population of Colombia.
Is anyone avoiding traveling in a motor vehicle in the United States because of traffic accidents? It's definitely possible to be killed or severely injured when driving in the United States. It happens many times each day. However the odds of it happening to you aren't really very high.
I would say, if you drive in the US wear a seatbelt, follow traffic regulations, don't drink and drive. In Medellin if a girl offers free sex on the first date politely but quickly walk away. I don't think that more anxiety than that is rational.
You already fucked up when you mentioned taxi. Don't use taxi. Only Uber or DiDi.
If I was you only keep the girl 2 or 3 days at most. Offer her 500 k with the option for her to stay with you if she wants. Why giver her another 500 k just to sleep.
Give her the money at the end of each day.
The only regret I had was not visiting any pros. Sure the GFE is nice but medellin has some really good pro talent and cheap, on my next trip I hope to partake on that. Also would recommend you find girls in the clubs at lleras if your seeking girl is into trios.He should only plan on seeing the girl for 2 to 3 hours the first day. Planning an overnight with a girl you haven't met is a bad move. Planning to have her stay for the whole trip is crazy. It's a lot easier to get a girl to stay longer or come back than it is to convince her to leave without all the money she's expecting.
Payment should not be until you're ready for her to leave, whether she's there for 1 hour or 1 week. Going in with a set price that seems fair is not the best approach, especially if you're talking multiple days. Instead decide on a fair short-term rate. If you decide to keep her for the night, you may or may not need to pay more.
BTW, if you had to give the girls money, they were pros.
I think that there is something about Latinas which other women just haven't got. That's my personal, although limited, experience so far.
I'm not saying that Medellin is necessarily the world's biggest center of working girls however in terms of having the most men per year visiting from other countries primarily for the purpose of having sex with local women, if Medellin is not #1 it's surely a top contender. The Guinness Book of World Records needs to investigate.Medellin isn't even the biggest center for working girls in Colombia.
There are a few girls I know that collect 50 k from the girls they referred. I don't consider that pimping as they do not work for these girls. More like a one time fee.
Is it pimping for guys here to recommend chicks to each other?.
Total agreement here. The high number of posts in the Medellin thread indicates only that proximal to the United States, it is the closest and lowest hanging fruit. As for size-for all intents and purposes the entire city of Pattaya in Thailand is a red-light district. In the Western Hemisphere, Rio de Janeiro has far more P2 P options. Columbia is cheap and close- and some mongers prefer Latinas to Asians and don't mind covered sex. The lower Forum activity in the Bangkok and Pattaya thread indicate to me that the logistics are so easy relative to MDE and others such that intel / recon is less necessary. Also the place is flooded with mongers, so there's not as much need to search for camaraderie online.Stating that Medellin is the closest is absurd, get out an atlas or a globe, ever heard of Tijuana or San Jose, Costa Rica? Lowest hangin fruit, that is absurd also, nothin is easier than the zona in Tijuana or gringo gulch in San Jose. Medellin takes a little bit of work contacting chicas or headin all over a giant metropolis to find them.
I hate "facts", especially when someone has to stress they are "facts" instead of conclusions based on their experience. Don't get worked up.
Many apartments have tighter entry security than some hotels. Some hotels you're able to bypass security with a girl. Each person should consider the level of security which they feel is necessary. There are advantages to both apartments and hotels, depending on each person's situation.
Any girl is a potential risk. The biggest risk appears to be Tinder, but it's a bad idea to assume a girl is safe because of where you found her. Your focus should be on not providing the opportunity to anyone. It also means not letting everyone know you're a good target. The same advice that's been offered for years still works.
1. Don't advertise your wealth.
2. Don't get wasted.
3. Watch your drink at all times.Sometimes security is working with the criminals at apartments. They will wait for an American to leave his room and then call their buddies to break in. I met a guy that had everything stolen from his apartment in Rio. That ain't happening at a nice hotel. Front desk people have degrees and speak 2 or 3 languages. Security guards at apartments need a heartbeat. I stayed at Windsor Copacabana and I promise you nobody is getting through there without being stopped by front desk. They are very professional there. I'm not saying it's impossible at nice hotels but apartments in Rio or high risk.
RakSopheni
02-12-23, 15:12
Stating that Medellin is the closest is absurd, get out an atlas or a globe, ever heard of Tijuana or San Jose, Costa Rica? Lowest hangin fruit, that is absurd also, nothin is easier than the zona in Tijuana or gringo gulch in San Jose. Medellin takes a little bit of work contacting chicas or headin all over a giant metropolis to find them.Medellin is the lowest hanging fruit with value and quality- which I took a worldly sophisticated guy such as yourself would understand as a priori to the declarative statement. What is Absurd is the high price of eggs in the USA or a novel by Camus. Where we agree is that it does take a bit of work in MDE, which necessitates the high level of forum activity- which brings us back full circle to where this started, which is to say MDE high post volume does not imply it is a large scene.
Sometimes security is working with the criminals at apartments. They will wait for an American to leave his room and then call their buddies to break in. I met a guy that had everything stolen from his apartment in Rio. That ain't happening at a nice hotel. Front desk people have degrees and speak 2 or 3 languages. Security guards at apartments need a heartbeat. I stayed at Windsor Copacabana and I promise you nobody is getting through there without being stopped by front desk. They are very professional there. I'm not saying it's impossible at nice hotels but apartments in Rio or high risk.I once came across an American in Poblado, Medellin who told me that his apartment was robbed and everything he owned in it was stolen. He then asked me for money to buy food.
What do you mean "flake" rate by hk in mexico? Are you saying the odds of a girl meeting you outside of the club?Yes, in my experience Medellin is the best place for outside the club or casa. I was with a 19 yo at a casa with an amazing natural bod. I got her what's app and she said 8 pm. She was right on time and she told me how bored she was at work with few customers. She said she couldn't wait to come to my hotel. Another one was a Deepthroat artist. She came at 9 pm like we agreed. There are many more. HK. Forget it. They say they will come at 6 am when work ends but are so tired and go home. Forget before work because they sleep all day. HK is very difficult. Brazil, like I said, is better, but nothing close to Medellin. The percentages I posted are my own personal experiences. YMMV, If you're hygienic, pleasant, and have a good time with her, they will almost always come after work or day off. Medellin girls need money. LOL.
HarryDubois
02-12-23, 17:53
He should only plan on seeing the girl for 2 to 3 hours the first day. Planning an overnight with a girl you haven't met is a bad move. Planning to have her stay for the whole trip is crazy. It's a lot easier to get a girl to stay longer or come back than it is to convince her to leave without all the money she's expecting.
Payment should not be until you're ready for her to leave, whether she's there for 1 hour or 1 week. Going in with a set price that seems fair is not the best approach, especially if you're talking multiple days. Instead decide on a fair short-term rate. If you decide to keep her for the night, you may or may not need to pay more.I am not a very experience monger. I just started last July with a trip to Athens, followed by a trip to Barcelona. In both those locations I did the brothel thing and it was a OK. Last month I went to Lisbon and the experience was life changing, for the better. A little background: I'm 62, American, look OK for my age, I'm divorced 10 years and I'm really depressed.
At any rate I went on seeking two weeks before the Lisbon trip. I sent out a lot of messages. I was offering 600 euros per day paid at the beginning of each day for three days. I got some responses. I asked for a video chat. Four agreed. I chose one. She was Brazilian, stated age 25, real age maybe 28. She told me that she had recently arrived from Brazil and was just starting to try pay for play. I think that this was true. She was a very nice normal woman. We spent three days together in an Airbnb in Cascais. It was fantastic. Not just the sex, but the relationship. We watched some movies together. We showered together. We slept together. The experience of sleeping in the same bed with an attractive woman was something I had not experienced in over 20 years.
So this is what I personally am looking for in Colombia. Not just sex although definitely that also, but a mini-relationship, a sort of one week marriage with a gorgeous young woman, minus the screaming, dishes breaking and police running in which seems to be how a lot of real marriages eventually end up today.
I always give the girl the money up front the moment that we meet and I have had success with that, in brothels and seeking. I want the woman to be comfortable, relaxed and happy to be with me and personally this has worked for me.
Here's a link to my friend from Lisbon.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3672dab7-7f99-46ef-a407-f0108fc87498
And photos. If you meet her please be kind and respectful.
HarryDubois
02-12-23, 18:12
I found an article in Spanish about drugging and robbing. These are some excerpts with the translation courtesy of Google Translate.
602 people affected by thefts in Medellin, between 2016 and 2018, at the hands of criminals who submitted their will by supplying them with drugs.
Most of the crimes are concentrated in the Center, El Poblado and Laureles, as well as in a commercial sector of Itagüí.
According to the investigation of the Prosecutor's Office, bars, taverns and discos are the places where the most contacts are established between the perpetrator and his victim, with 228 cases in the last two years; Taxis follow (45); social networks (17); and the house of the affected person (14), who is generally a single woman or an old man, where criminals enter asking for a borrowed bathroom or a glass of water.
An important part of those affected are homosexuals, especially in the circuit of the Center of Medellin. Alejandro Gamboa, an activist for human rights and the Lgbti community, believes that "for cultural reasons, the places where same-sex people socialize the most are still partying places, and that makes them more vulnerable to this crime."
The complaints received by the Medellin Prosecutor's Office indicate that in 168 cases the aggressors were men, while 97 were perpetrated by women. Regarding the victims, men bear the worst part, with 358 complaints filed, while women filed 88 (period January 2017-April 2018).
The Secretary of Security of Medellin, Andrés Tobón highlights the importance of self-care: "in places of partying and liquor consumption, it is preferable to be accompanied by trusted people, so that the state of alcoholism does not make us vulnerable. We must bear in mind that on the street not everyone who treats us well is a friend."
https://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/la-ruta-de-la-escopolamina-va-para-donde-haya-rumba-FA10322667
Women in Medellin are seldom if ever interested in casual sex with a tourist unless he is paying her. *.
https://medellinvip.net/how-to-pick-up-women-in-medellin-for-bachelor-party-groups/
The few first hand accounts of victims which I have found online have all been foreign men meeting non-pros who were consenting to have sex for free on the first meeting.
This guy got robbed of $7,000 although he was allegedly very careful with his drink.
https://youtu.be/6x7u6JSXv_w
My perception is that being drugged and robbed in Medellin is possible, it's statistically very unlikely and if something is too good to be true (free sex on the first date with a hot young Paisa) then it isn't true. Walk away.
It looks like her plastic surgeon was inspired by the Jessica Rabbit cartoon character.
I am not a very experience monger. I just started last July with a trip to Athens, followed by a trip to Barcelona. In both those locations I did the brothel thing and it was a OK. Last month I went to Lisbon and the experience was life changing, for the better. A little background: I'm 62, American, look OK for my age, I'm divorced 10 years and I'm really depressed.
At any rate I went on seeking two weeks before the Lisbon trip. I sent out a lot of messages. I was offering 600 euros per day paid at the beginning of each day for three days. I got some responses. I asked for a video chat. Four agreed. I chose one. She was Brazilian, stated age 25, real age maybe 28. She told me that she had recently arrived from Brazil and was just starting to try pay for play. I think that this was true. She was a very nice normal woman. We spent three days together in an Airbnb in Cascais. It was fantastic. Not just the sex, but the relationship. We watched some movies together. We showered together. We slept together. The experience of sleeping in the same bed with an attractive woman was something I had not experienced in over 20 years.
So this is what I personally am looking for in Colombia. Not just sex although definitely that also, but a mini-relationship, a sort of one week marriage with a gorgeous young woman, minus the screaming, dishes breaking and police running in which seems to be how a lot of real marriages eventually end up today.
I always give the girl the money up front the moment that we meet and I have had success with that, in brothels and seeking. I want the woman to be comfortable, relaxed and happy to be with me and personally this has worked for me.
Here's a link to my friend from Lisbon.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3672dab7-7f99-46ef-a407-f0108fc87498
And photos. If you meet her please be kind and respectful.
I think Bogota is the biggest center for working girls and everything else in Colombia.
Medellin isn't even the biggest center for working girls in Colombia.
Anthony2023
02-12-23, 21:09
He should only plan on seeing the girl for 2 to 3 hours the first day. Planning an overnight with a girl you haven't met is a bad move. Planning to have her stay for the whole trip is crazy. It's a lot easier to get a girl to stay longer or come back than it is to convince her to leave without all the money she's expecting.
Payment should not be until you're ready for her to leave, whether she's there for 1 hour or 1 week. Going in with a set price that seems fair is not the best approach, especially if you're talking multiple days. Instead decide on a fair short-term rate. If you decide to keep her for the night, you may or may not need to pay more.
BTW, if you had to give the girls money, they were pros.That is recommended but if you're comfortable enough, have done your homework on the girl and gotten to know each other a bit before actually meeting and you have good security at your place, overnights with someone you just met isn't a problem.
Getting her to leave, all I had to say was that I had plans to meet with a group of people today.
Which is why I recommended you give payment at the end of each day, because if you don't and you decide to pay her when you kick her out, she may not want to leave without receiving what she expected for the so many days she thought she was going to stay.
Pros as in the ones who actually advertise their services on websites or casa girls, not semi pros like Facebook, seeking or club girls.
Sometimes security is working with the criminals at apartments. They will wait for an American to leave his room and then call their buddies to break in. I met a guy that had everything stolen from his apartment in Rio. That ain't happening at a nice hotel. Front desk people have degrees and speak 2 or 3 languages. Security guards at apartments need a heartbeat. I stayed at Windsor Copacabana and I promise you nobody is getting through there without being stopped by front desk. They are very professional there. I'm not saying it's impossible at nice hotels but apartments in Rio or high risk.Wrong country. Although, if you're in a hotel in Rio, you're probably not at risk of being robbed in Medellin.
At most hotels there are maintenance people and a cleaning staff, all with keys to your room. It wasn't too long ago when a BM had his cash stolen by one of the maids. Several times in the past I've been given a key to a room already rented to someone else, or had someone else open the door to my room because the front desk made a mistake. I've also been placed in adjoining rooms with 1 or both doors unlocked, and ground floor rooms with the windows unlocked.
And in Colombia, even in several of the nice hotels I've stayed in, finding someone at the desk who speaks English is at best 50-50.
But the issue isn't whether your risks of being robbed in Medellin when staying in a hotel in Rio are less than when staying in an apartment in Medellin. The issue is taking responsibility for your own security.
If you start assuming you're safe because of where you stay or who you see, you'll get robbed whenever someone has the time. The criminals are pretty busy with all the people who aren't paying attention.
Medellin is the lowest hanging fruit with value and quality- which I took a worldly sophisticated guy such as yourself would understand as a priori to the declarative statement. What is Absurd is the high price of eggs in the USA or a novel by Camus. Where we agree is that it does take a bit of work in MDE, which necessitates the high level of forum activity- which brings us back full circle to where this started, which is to say MDE high post volume does not imply it is a large scene.The people who prefer Sosua or Tijuana think differently. Much of it depends on where you're at in the US.
However, MDE is a large mongering scene, and in 1 area it might be the largest. That would be Facebook. Is there anywhere else with a Facebook scene to rival Medellin? In other areas and overall it's not at the top.
None of that matters. What matters is what you're looking for. Your top mongering scene could be anywhere. It doesn't matter how much I like Medellin if you're looking for tall, blue eyed blondes, or chubby Indian girls.
I am not a very experience monger. I just started last July with a trip to Athens, followed by a trip to Barcelona. In both those locations I did the brothel thing and it was a OK. Last month I went to Lisbon and the experience was life changing, for the better. A little background: I'm 62, American, look OK for my age, I'm divorced 10 years and I'm really depressed.
At any rate I went on seeking two weeks before the Lisbon trip. I sent out a lot of messages. I was offering 600 euros per day paid at the beginning of each day for three days. I got some responses. I asked for a video chat. Four agreed. I chose one. She was Brazilian, stated age 25, real age maybe 28. She told me that she had recently arrived from Brazil and was just starting to try pay for play. I think that this was true. She was a very nice normal woman. We spent three days together in an Airbnb in Cascais. It was fantastic. Not just the sex, but the relationship. We watched some movies together. We showered together. We slept together. The experience of sleeping in the same bed with an attractive woman was something I had not experienced in over 20 years.
So this is what I personally am looking for in Colombia. Not just sex although definitely that also, but a mini-relationship, a sort of one week marriage with a gorgeous young woman, minus the screaming, dishes breaking and police running in which seems to be how a lot of real marriages eventually end up today.
I always give the girl the money up front the moment that we meet and I have had success with that, in brothels and seeking. I want the woman to be comfortable, relaxed and happy to be with me and personally this has worked for me.
Here's a link to my friend from Lisbon.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3672dab7-7f99-46ef-a407-f0108fc87498
And photos. If you meet her please be kind and respectful.You do what you think is best. Afterwards you can tell us how it went.
Here's a common way it goes in Medellin:
Your new temp wife shows up and you give her enough to cover all her expenses for 1 month and promise 6 months more, paid each day, for another month. She realizes she forgot some things she needs, or she needs to give the money to her mother. Whatever the reason, she needs to leave, but she'll be right back.
After a few hours you start sending messages. She might answer. Chances are, if she does, it's because she figures she can get more money from you. Sometimes it's a family emergency, sick grandmothers are popular. She might come back and you might get your fairytale. Or she might come back and a few days later you wake up and everything is gone.
7 million pesos in Medellin goes a long way towards buying a house. You're ready to give a girl 1 million just to show up and say Hello,. Even if she plays the role perfectly, she might not be right for you.
Set up 3 or 4. Meet 1 for dinner and decide if she's worth a trip to your room. Once you get 1 to the room decide if she's worth keeping overnight. If she's still worth keeping in the morning, make your proposal. Only pay for what she's earned and pay the rest at the end. If she needs to give someone money, have the person come to you. Repeat until you find the right one.
What's working against you is that your plan worked once. Your brain is telling you that you have a winning strategy. Reality is saying you got lucky.
I'm telling you this because I started out with almost exactly the same plan and everyone told me not to do it. They said to get my feet wet before jumping off the cliff. Fortunately, 1 hour into my perfect plan I realized I was making a big mistake. My trip was nothing like I planned, but it ended up being great, because I finally listened.
I found an article in Spanish about drugging and robbing. These are some excerpts with the translation courtesy of Google Translate.
602 people affected by thefts in Medellin, between 2016 and 2018, at the hands of criminals who submitted their will by supplying them with drugs.
Most of the crimes are concentrated in the Center, El Poblado and Laureles, as well as in a commercial sector of Itag.
According to the investigation of the Prosecutor's Office, bars, taverns and discos are the places where the most contacts are established between the perpetrator and his victim, with 228 cases in the last two years; Taxis follow (45); social networks (17); and the house of the affected person (14), who is generally a single woman or an old man, where criminals enter asking for a borrowed bathroom or a glass of water.
An important part of those affected are homosexuals, especially in the circuit of the Center of Medellin. Alejandro Gamboa, an activist for human rights and the Lgbti community, believes that "for cultural reasons, the places where same-sex people socialize the most are still partying places, and that makes them more vulnerable to this crime."
The complaints received by the Medellin Prosecutor's Office indicate that in 168 cases the aggressors were men, while 97 were perpetrated by women. Regarding the victims, men bear the worst part, with 358 complaints filed, while women filed 88 (period January 2017-April 2018).
The Secretary of Security of Medellin, Andrs Tobn highlights the importance of self-care: "in places of partying and liquor consumption, it is preferable to be accompanied by trusted people, so that the state of alcoholism does not make us vulnerable. We must bear in mind that on the street not everyone who treats us well is a friend."
https://m.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/seguridad/la-ruta-de-la-escopolamina-va-para-donde-haya-rumba-FA10322667
Women in Medellin are seldom if ever interested in casual sex with a tourist unless he is paying her. *.
https://medellinvip.net/how-to-pick-up-women-in-medellin-for-bachelor-party-groups/
The few first hand accounts of victims which I have found online have all been foreign men meeting non-pros who were consenting to have sex for free on the first meeting.
This guy got robbed of $7,000 although he was allegedly very careful with his drink.
https://youtu.be/6x7u6JSXv_w
My perception is that being drugged and robbed in Medellin is possible, it's statistically very unlikely and if something is too good to be true (free sex on the first date with a hot young Paisa) then it isn't true. Walk away.Statistics become a lot less important when you become one.
People lie, embellish and bend the facts to put themselves in the best light. Chances are you've done it plenty of times. The more embarrassing the situation, or the greater the consequences, the more likely they are to bend the truth.
What you should be taking from that stuff is:
1. People get drugged and robbed.
2. People get drugged and robbed by people who have access to their drink.
3. A person who can afford international travel to get laid makes a good target.
My perception is that being drugged and robbed in Medellin is possible, it's statistically very unlikely and if something is too good to be true (free sex on the first date with a hot young Paisa) then it isn't true. Walk away.I've had sex with a few nonpros on the first date in Medellin. So I'd disagree that it's rare or that there aren't Paisas out there interested in that. I'd go as far as to say that I'd have missed out on some of my best experiences taking your advice.
Any situation meeting a stranger is not going to be 100% safe but you can mitigate the risk. I like to meet women with a robust social media presence and who seem super open and willing to talk about their lives and backgrounds extensively before we meet. I'm also going to be mindful of where we are meeting (I chose), order transportation myself and keep an eye on drinks etc. If the girl gives me a good vibe, seems to trust me and let me take the lead, and seems like she has nothing to hide during a date I'll consider inviting her to my apartment.
There is no reason why you should be robbed of 7000 dollars because you shouldn't bring that much cash to a third world country in the first place. It's an idiot rookie move. The biggest change I made is getting a Schwab debit card. There is no reason anymore to bring a bunch of cash and convert at a cambio. Just take out the minimum you need for that night from an ATM and Schwab will reimburse you the fees. Back in the day Schwab denied my checking account because my credit sucked. Once they changed their policy a few years ago, and stopped using credit scores for checking, I was able to get approved. Now I never bring a lot of cash.
Today, I have a Schwab and SoFi checking account. Neither charges international fees or cash withdrawal fees. You don't get reimbursed at sofi for ATM convenience fees but everything else is free. Always have 2 checking accounts. You need 2 for backup in case one gets declined because of their BS fraud alerts because you swiped at McDonald's twice in a row which actually happened to me. 2 k in each account and you're gold. If someone scopes you or breaks in they ain't getting much because you shouldn't have much. My last trip I brought a whole 300.00 in cash. That's it.
HarryDubois
02-13-23, 06:43
Here's a common way it goes in Medellin:
Your new temp wife shows up and you give her enough to cover all her expenses for 1 month and promise 6 months more, paid each day, for another month. She realizes she forgot some things she needs, or she needs to give the money to her mother. Whatever the reason, she needs to leave, but she'll be right back.I have thought about that. It's certainly possible that I'll hand my seeking girl a million pesos and two minutes later she get's a phone call, her dog was just hit by a car, it's an emergency and she's gone. First of all, if she does that then she's just thrown away the remaining 6 million, so why would she do that, but who knows, it's possible. In that case I just lost a million (that's $210 US) which will not destroy my vacation and I will just open the old laptop, hunt around a little and head off to one of the better brothels, strip clubs etc. I'm in a location with thousands of other options.
So plan A is a mini-relationship. Plan be is the brothels.
The only thing which I am a little uncertain about are the exact prices in Medellin. I am attaching a photo. She is 19. Is a million pesos per day too much? Will it sound suspicious? I'll also spend a few dollars on her for her meals or if we go out to a club however that might be another $30 a day. In a lot of places you would need to pay several hundred dollars or more per hour for this girl. A million sounds low to me. So I am wondering if anyone has an opinion.
HarryDubois
02-13-23, 06:54
I've had sex with a few nonpros on the first date in Medellin. So I'd disagree that it's rare or that there aren't Paisas out there interested in that. I'd go as far as to say that I'd have missed out on some of my best experiences taking your advice.That's really interesting, however is your Spanish fluent? Are you recognizable as a gringo tourist? Were the women about your own age? Did you meet them at a club (which I have heard is really difficult; Colombians come with their own closed friend groups) or in some other situation?
My impression is that a typical tourist hooking up and going home with a Paisa because she thinks he's hot is almost unheard of. More frequent seems to be a typical tourist hooking up and going home with a Paisa and not remembering anything until two days later.
HarryDubois
02-13-23, 07:32
However, MDE is a large mongering scene, and in 1 area it might be the largest. That would be Facebook. Is there anywhere else with a Facebook scene to rival Medellin?How do you find MDE working girls on facebook?
I've had sex with a few nonpros on the first date in Medellin......It should probably read: "If you are looks challenged and offered sex on the first date, walk away".
My perception is that being drugged and robbed in Medellin is possible, it's statistically very unlikely and if something is too good to be true (free sex on the first date with a hot young Paisa) then it isn't true. Walk away.Police reports and stats are one thing, hospital stats are another. If you can find it there was a good article a couple or three years ago on drug poisonings with scopolamine, and the numbers were in the 10's of thousands. Up to 100,000 for the country. I will try to find that and dig it out.
The problem is that for guys seeing prostitutes, and then getting drugged, only a very small number would ever be reported to police. Guys I know that have been scoped in 100% of the cases did NOT report it. They survived, they lost some stuff, and they didn't want the world to know what happened.
So my perception is that if you are careless and see working chicas in Medellin or Bogota, you have a very high chance of it happening. Of course in most cases it would be in your own apartment, etc. So by following the great suggestions of folks like Jb and others on this board you can reduce that risk to negligible, but without taking some care you are a target.
I have thought about that. It's certainly possible that I'll hand my seeking girl a million pesos and two minutes later she get's a phone call, her dog was just hit by a car, it's an emergency and she's gone. First of all, if she does that then she's just thrown away the remaining 6 million, so why would she do that, but who knows, it's possible. In that case I just lost a million (that's $210 US) which will not destroy my vacation and I will just open the old laptop, hunt around a little and head off to one of the better brothels, strip clubs etc. I'm in a location with thousands of other options.
So plan A is a mini-relationship. Plan be is the brothels.
The only thing which I am a little uncertain about are the exact prices in Medellin. I am attaching a photo. She is 19. Is a million pesos per day too much? Will it sound suspicious? I'll also spend a few dollars on her for her meals or if we go out to a club however that might be another $30 a day. In a lot of places you would need to pay several hundred dollars or more per hour for this girl. A million sounds low to me. So I am wondering if anyone has an opinion.Just wanted to chime in. I agree with the earlier poster that your plan is unlikely to succeed. Medellin (as has been noted here countless times) is not like Lisbon or most of Europe. These chicas are truly go with the flow and few plan out what they're doing more than a day in advance. If she's having a good time with you, she'll stay and you'll be golden. If not, the excuses (sick friend, sick mom) will come. My advice is to just play it by ear day to day.
I was just there mid-January and had the same chica over every night for a week (I was working during the day). Excellent service, total GFE. 300 mil for toda la noche (8 pm - 10 am) every night. Then she crashed at my place (with her friends) for the weekend and it was 300 mil for the weekend (food costs made up for it). So yes, I would say 1 million pesos per day is an overpay. But it's your $$$ so if that's what you want to do. Go for it and have fun.
I am attaching a photo. She is 19. Is a million pesos per day too much? Oh my giddy aunt. Harry, can I be your agent? I will manage your financial affairs while your in Colombia. How does that sound?
Police reports and stats are one thing, hospital stats are another. If you can find it there was a good article a couple or three years ago on drug poisonings with scopolamine, and the numbers were in the 10's of thousands. Up to 100,000 for the country.Right. But the stats he reported were not even instances of scop, they were robberies. Of ocurse, the vast, vast majority of crimes go unreported, espec in countries where the polcie are corrupt or incompetent, or both, like in Colombia and the USA.
HarryDubois
02-13-23, 17:36
Police reports and stats are one thing, hospital stats are another. If you can find it there was a good article a couple or three years ago on drug poisonings with scopolamine, and the numbers were in the 10's of thousands. Up to 100,000 for the country. I will try to find that and dig it out.Maybe you mean this?
Unofficial estimates put the number of annual scopolamine incidents in Colombia at approximately 50,000.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130315175638/https://www.osac.gov/Pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=12118
Also, I just joined a private facebook group called Colombia Scopolamine Victims and Alerts. I am attaching a couple of screen shots. Apparently the perpetrators are non-pros, at least generally.
HarryDubois
02-13-23, 17:40
Oh my giddy aunt. Harry, can I be your agent? I will manage your financial affairs while your in Colombia. How does that sound?If you can deliver that sweet sweet Latina pussy, you've got a deal. I'm sending my credit card info.
No but seriously is a million pesos a day too much or too little for a girl like this? Obviously assuming that the photo is accurate. Two hundred bucks sounds dirt cheap to me however I understand that Medellin prices are relatively low.
That's really interesting, however is your Spanish fluent? Are you recognizable as a gringo tourist? Were the women about your own age? Did you meet them at a club (which I have heard is really difficult; Colombians come with their own closed friend groups) or in some other situation?
My impression is that a typical tourist hooking up and going home with a Paisa because she thinks he's hot is almost unheard of. More frequent seems to be a typical tourist hooking up and going home with a Paisa and not remembering anything until two days later.There are plenty of chicas who want a gringo boyfriend, hope to find a mozo (be your mistress) to support them, or want an adventure / fun time (or multiple of these things). The same rules don't apply here as the US for dating especially in terms of age. This last time I was in Medellin I went on a date with a 21-year-old law student who lives in Luareles, is from a good family and who spoke fluent English. In addition to going out with me, she told me all about the 50-year-old gringo ex-boyfriend she'd recently broke up with after dating them for 8 months. The point is there are lots of local women who are interested in and open to dating foreigners for the reasons listed above including some fairly classy ones. Also remember, many enjoy going to nice spots and don't have the disposable income to make it happen every weekend on their own (so that's another reason she may say yes to going out with you). I've never found that being in country for a shorter time period (a week or two) has hurt my ability to get a date. I usually sleep with a few of the girls I go on dates with after the first date. I'm not saying all of these girls are classy or true "good girls", but they are girls that decided to sleep with me without receiving more than taxi money or possibly 50 k for a sitter, though sometimes neither of the two.
Now, I speak Spanish fluently, which helps a lot, but I look like a gringo. I'm in my 30's so not that old but I generally date girls in their early to late 20's. I don't pick up girls at clubs its mostly online for me 95% Facebook. I've hit it off with a few girls at stores, and on the street as well. I have chatted with a few girls over tinder but I take the same approach of screening their other social media, chatting extensively and dictating our plans for the date myself (I'd say this is the normal expectation with these women for a first date).
If you want to be as safe as possible I'd stick to casas during daytime hours. I'd avoid the Centro ones because you run a slight risk of getting robbed by a drug addict or you could step in a pothole and hurt yourself (I kid about the pothole especially though exactly that happened to me outside of New Life in 2020). Just sticking to pros on Facebook or the online pages doesn't guarantee your safety. I've heard stories of pros that scam, steal, and drug. Personal recommendations can help, though I can think of one girl I thought was chill and have been with that I heard had robbed another guy who let his guard down with her. Colombia is not the safest spot in the world and its not a beginner destination either. You need some street smarts and language skills will also help you a lot. My advice is to make plans to mitigate risks, don't be too trusting too quickly, trust your own instincts, and don't worry about bailing if something seems off.
HarryDubois
02-14-23, 00:09
I speak Spanish fluently, which helps a lot, but I look like a gringo. I'm in my 30's so not that old but I generally date girls in their early to late 20's.I think the fact that you are fluent Spanish speaking and are dating age appropriate women puts you in a different category than 90% of the Americans visiting Medellin.
I wouldn't pay that. Don't be surprised when you meet her and she is 10 years older and 30 lbs heavier. I would recommend that you meet her for dinner and if you feel like take her back to your place. There are way too many beautiful women in Medellin than to settle for just seeing one. Enjoy some variety and have 4 or 5 different girls on your trip. After I'm with a girl for 3-4 hours I'm ready for the next one.
If you can deliver that sweet sweet teenage Latina pussy, you've got a deal. I'm sending my credit card info.
No but seriously is a million pesos a day too much or too little for a girl like this? Obviously assuming that the photo is accurate. Two hundred bucks sounds dirt cheap to me however I understand that Medellin prices are relatively low.
HarryDubois
02-14-23, 01:46
I wouldn't pay that. Don't be surprised when you meet her and she is 10 years older and 30 lbs heavier.I must video chat with her before I arrive in Colombia.
How much would you offer? 800 k? 700 k?
I don't want to be cheap and annoy her however I also don't want to drastically overpay. It may even sound suspicious "For so much money, what does he want to do with me?
That's really interesting, however is your Spanish fluent? Are you recognizable as a gringo tourist? Were the women about your own age? Did you meet them at a club (which I have heard is really difficult; Colombians come with their own closed friend groups) or in some other situation?
My impression is that a typical tourist hooking up and going home with a Paisa because she thinks he's hot is almost unheard of. More frequent seems to be a typical tourist hooking up and going home with a Paisa and not remembering anything until two days later.While less common than in the US, it happens. If you're a young good looking guy who has chicas hit on you in the US, you can definitely get laid in Colombia for nothing. If you really want to do this, get out of Poblado, especially near Parque Lleras. A lot of non pros don't want to be seen with an obvious Gringo in these areas.
Then again, if you're in town for just a week and want to leave nothing to chance, just pay for it.
Parque LLeras is not accessible. It is barricaded. It is indeed closed.
Yes, it is being remodeled and yes the streets and bars around it are generally open. Much of the action is on Calle 10.A lot of the park is now open.
Just got back from Medellin.
Fun to hit Parque Lleras and chat with the girls I know from Centro.
Most girls go home empty handed, but they're all looking for the big gringo payout. LOL.
Had a great time in Medellin, and Bogota as well.
I'm always a street a guy at heart, and almost always have pretty good luck.
Befriended a few cops guarding Botero now.
Cool guys.
Kept me safe while on the hunt at night on the other side of the gated Plaza.
When they split, I did as well.
Too many bad hombres on the hunt to rob at night to go about unguarded at night.
Overall I like Medellin the most in Colombia, then Bogota, however, Brazil will always be my number uno.
Heading back there tomorrow.
Cheers.
It will be interesting to see how long the barricading of ground zero will be in effect for since initiated. Almost a ghost town albeit a few scattered walkers inside the barricaded areas with everyone on the other side of the barricades and the glass covered walkway area is very crowded.
Kind of surreal walking inside of the barricaded area and not seeing walkers all over the place and the business's inside are getting hammered with hardly any foot traffic passing thru. And although getting access into the area thru the manned police entrances may entail being searched, you can enter the area thru the complex adjacent to the Metro without being searched. And business at the short time hotels like Premium Plaza has to be way down along with all the eateries having way less customers.
Oh well.
I must video chat with her before I arrive in Colombia.
How much would you offer? 800 k? 700 k?
I don't want to be cheap and annoy her however I also don't want to drastically overpay. It may even sound suspicious "For so much money, what does he want to do with me?It's really easy. But it does require you to actually use advice, instead of insisting you know better than the accumulated decades of experience that has already chimed in.
You tell her you want to meet her. Tell her your basic plan, not the "I want you to stay with me for a week" plan, the "we'll have dinner then go to my hotel" plan. Tell her you will be in town for a few days, maybe a week. If she agrees to the initial date, ask her how much she wants.
You don't know the market and you keep insisting on looking at it from a US standpoint. Which means you're practically guaranteed to pay a ridiculous price if you make an offer.
Here's the good part. Once she gives you a price, you can play it 3 ways.
1. Ask if the price includes taxi. If she says yes, offer 20% less. If she says no offer her 20 k more for taxi.
2. Tell her that you always pay 20% less. If she doesn't accept, offer her price but tell her it includes the taxi.
3. Ask her if the price is for toda la noche, all night. If not, you can either agree to her price, offer 20% less, or offer 20% more for all night.
Whichever way you go, after the first fuck decide if she's worth keeping all night. If you keep her all night, decide in the morning if you want to offer her the 1 week deal. A more than fair price for all night is around 400 k. If you want to give her more, offer it as a tip at the end.
Under no circumstances should you pay her until the agreed upon date (or night) is complete.
Anthony2023
02-14-23, 09:52
I think the fact that you are fluent Spanish speaking and are dating age appropriate women puts you in a different category than 90% of the Americans visiting Medellin.I'm also fluent in spanish and mid 30's. Isn't most everybody on this forum?
90% of americans vistiting? I thought most of us who visit are mid 30's and speak spanish?
Are you saying most american visitors are old and don't speak spanish?
Lucky Nuts
02-14-23, 14:28
I'm also fluent in spanish and mid 30's. Isn't most everybody on this forum?
90% of americans vistiting? I thought most of us who visit are mid 30's and speak spanish?
Are you saying most american visitors are old and don't speak spanish?Not sure about "most american visitors" being old but personally I didn't consider paying for sex until the girls I wanted to fuck were less than half my age and it was the only way possible to fuck the same type girls I was fucking as a young guy. It does suprise me how many younger guys I see in Medellin and most probably looking for P4 P. Hell I'm in Pattaya now and it shocks me that in the best gogo most young asian guys appear to be about the same age as the girls dancing on stage. Not being judgemental but I just couldn't have imagined doing that myself. So yeah I'm guilty of often being in Medellin as an older guy haha.
I'm also fluent in spanish and mid 30's. Isn't most everybody on this forum?
I thought most of us who visit are mid 30's and speak spanish?
Yeah, I think most of us here are in our mid-30's and fluent in Spanish. That's what I tell all the girls.
I can't pretend to have any interest in the demographics of this web site's membership. Nonetheless, it is a very frequent discussion topic.
Yeah, I think most of us here are in our mid-30's and fluent in Spanish. That's what I tell all the girls.
Tostao disappeared not long before the latest barrier project. Since then, a new 5,000 peso store that sells Chinese made plastic goods took over one of the storefronts across from Premium Plaza. The official word from City Hall is the barrier is supposed to be in place 45 days or more. I think that leaves about three weeks until the end of the 45 day period. Personally I don't see why this one will be any more sustainable than the previous iterations. This week I noticed some of the regulars inside the barrier but dressed in civilian clothing. I assume that is a ploy to gain admission and ply their trade as before. A girl I know who used to work the sculptures complained to me that there are "a lot of women" concentrated along the glass walkway side of the church and behind it. The concentration of cart vendors beneath the metro viaduct and in areas outside the barrier is overwhelming. They and their bluetooth public address systems should never have been allowed in the plaza in my opinion. I agree the low end fast food joints and the short time hotels inside the barrier have to be hurting.
It will be interesting to see how long the barricading of ground zero will be in effect for since initiated. Almost a ghost town albeit a few scattered walkers inside the barricaded areas with everyone on the other side of the barricades and the glass covered walkway area is very crowded.
Kind of surreal walking inside of the barricaded area and not seeing walkers all over the place and the business's inside are getting hammered with hardly any foot traffic passing thru. And although getting access into the area thru the manned police entrances may entail being searched, you can enter the area thru the complex adjacent to the Metro without being searched. And business at the short time hotels like Premium Plaza has to be way down along with all the eateries having way less customers..
I included the story about the 21-year-old law student girl I met who was dating a 50-year-old gringo because those sorts of age gaps in dating aren't that uncommon either. Speaking the language will help a lot, though I've had a couple of nonpros who were ready to play the translator game with me before they knew I spoke Spanish. My point is you'd be surprised at what is possible in Medellin and you might be holding yourself back. I'm still modifying my approach as I come back and learn more.
I think the fact that you are fluent Spanish speaking and are dating age appropriate women puts you in a different category than 90% of the Americans visiting Medellin.
PigSavinBoy
02-14-23, 17:38
This last time I was in Medellin I went on a date with a 21-year-old law student .... who spoke fluent English.Hmm it might be nice to meet a fluent English chica and have a proper conversation for a change. Where did you find her? SA?
I'm also fluent in spanish and mid 30's. Isn't most everybody on this forum?
90% of americans vistiting? I thought most of us who visit are mid 30's and speak spanish?
Are you saying most american visitors are old and don't speak spanish?I'd say that's about 1/3 of the forum.
I've found the following rough groups:
1) Retired 60+ gringos w / pension or steady retirement income (live in country, or take longer trips, basic Spanish, often stick to 1-3 'regulars'.
2) 30-45 year olds that are still working (do 5-10 day trips, often divorced, conversational Spanish fluency, split of guys who travel solo and those that travel in groups on guy trips, try to fit in as many girls as possible. Used to go to Brazil, Costa Rica, or DR).
3) < 30 year olds that are digital nomads (live in country due to low COL, building a business or side hustle, often fully fluent or have parents that were native, trying to get local girlfriend but enjoy the P4 P opportunities).
Outside of those buckets I meet the occasional one-offs that are married to a Colombian or are ex-military, retired early, and exploring.
Mr Enternational
02-14-23, 19:03
Hmm it might be nice to meet a fluent English chica and have a proper conversation for a change. Where did you find her? SA?So why not learn Spanish? When I was interested to have proper conversations with people in various countries, I learned their languages.
How many board members are there and how many of us have you met?
I'd say that's about 1/3 of the forum.
I've found the following rough groups:
1) Retired 60+ gringos w / pension or steady retirement income (live in country, or take longer trips, basic Spanish, often stick to 1-3 'regulars'.
2) 30-45 year olds that are still working (do 5-10 day trips, often divorced, conversational Spanish fluency, split of guys who travel solo and those that travel in groups on guy trips, try to fit in as many girls as possible. Used to go to Brazil, Costa Rica, or DR).
3) < 30 year olds that are digital nomads (live in country due to low COL, building a business or side hustle, often fully fluent or have parents that were native, trying to get local girlfriend but enjoy the P4 P opportunities).
Outside of those buckets I meet the occasional one-offs that are married to a Colombian or are ex-military, retired early, and exploring.
There are quite a few of them behind the check in counters in the airport and hotel reception desks.
Hmm it might be nice to meet a fluent English chica and have a proper conversation for a change. Where did you find her? SA?
I found her on Facebook. Just luck of the draw in terms of who I friended and who friended me and who I was chatting with. She peaked my interest when she told me she lived in Laureles and was studying law. I always like to ask what barrios they are from and their jobs / studies.
Hmm it might be nice to meet a fluent English chica and have a proper conversation for a change. Where did you find her? SA?
HarryDubois
02-14-23, 21:41
How do I go about finding MDE girls on facebook? Does anyone have links to profiles which have more female MDE friends listed?
If I was feeling generous and really liked the girl (one that I already knew) $500,000 for the night. To be honest though I have had lots of girls spend the night with me and I didn't have to pay any extra.
I would not feel comfortable offering a lot of money ($500,000) for an overnight with a girl that I didn't know. I would recommend a first date dinner, back to your place 2-3 hours $300,000. At this price most girls won't think your cheap unless she is a 9 in which case expect to pay a little more. If everything works out well you can see her as much or less as you please. Keep your options open and don't tie yourself down (unless the chica is doing it and your into that stuff). Although this could be an embarrasing way to get robbed LOL.
I must video chat with her before I arrive in Colombia.
How much would you offer? 800 k? 700 k?
I don't want to be cheap and annoy her however I also don't want to drastically overpay. It may even sound suspicious "For so much money, what does he want to do with me?
If I was feeling generous and really liked the girl (one that I already knew) $500,000 for the night. To be honest though I have had lots of girls spend the night with me and I didn't have to pay any extra.
Yup. I don't seek out all nighters, but I've had that happen a fair amount over the years. Arrange short-time, get along well, and the chica decides to stay the night with no additional payment.
Absolutely no reason to make a deal for all night if you haven't already sampled the girl short time. If you have a good time you can usually extend, frequently for no more pesos. And if she’s not good, you want to be able to get her to leave and you’ll feel like an idiot if you agreed to take her all night.
How many board members are there and how many of us have you met?I have no idea how many board members there are, but I think there's a counter along the bottom (or top).
I've been on this board off and on for almost 20 years, and I'm only mid 40's. I was on Argentina Private back in the day with Jackson and even met him a couple times. But I digress. Over the years I've probably met 80-100 guys in person that I've connected with through here and another 150-250 mongers that I've met on location through friends, at casas, or out on the town (many are unaware of ISG). I stay close with 20-25 of them that I've found to be most honest, trustworthy, and laid back. I've met guys that were 25 year old virgins and guys that were 85 with 20 year old girlfriends. Everything from police and army rangers to doctors, start up founders, and former pro ball players as well. We're an interesting cross section of society, with the only common characteristic that I can discern being an uncommonly high sex drive.
I hate "facts", especially when someone has to stress they are "facts" instead of conclusions based on their experience. Don't get worked up.
Many apartments have tighter entry security than some hotels. Some hotels you're able to bypass security with a girl. Each person should consider the level of security which they feel is necessary. There are advantages to both apartments and hotels, depending on each person's situation.
Any girl is a potential risk. The biggest risk appears to be Tinder, but it's a bad idea to assume a girl is safe because of where you found her. Your focus should be on not providing the opportunity to anyone. It also means not letting everyone know you're a good target. The same advice that's been offered for years still works.
1. Don't advertise your wealth.
2. Don't get wasted.
3. Watch your drink at all times.Agree with this 100%. I was scoped back in mid November, many of you saw my report at that time.
Backstory.
I like to mix my Medellin trips up with a mix of pros, semi-pros, and non-pros. For the semi-pros I was using Bumble which in my prior experience had Paisas which were looking for more of a normal relationship as opposed to straight P4 P (as is the case with Tinder). It had worked for meeting girls with normal girls in the past, often with free sex and deeper relationships / friendships after 2-3 dates. Anyway, this particular time was scoped at the end of the second date with the girl in my apartment. We never once discussed payment and I didn't even sleep with her. I was making her dinner and she scoped my drink when I stepped out on the balcony to get steaks off of the grill. I was unconscious for 45+ hours and she cleaned me out of 5 k worth of stuff plus passport, credit cards, phone, etc... charged a ton of stuff over the 2 days I was out. Whether it was solopamine or horse tranquilizer I have no idea, but I was down in 10-15 seconds. It was the same week that the kid from California was scoped and killed by the girl he met on Tinder.
Anyway. Abide by all of JBee's rules, even for the regular ones until you get to know them better. There are several stories of guys knowing girls for weeks and even months before getting scoped. You may have the girls whatsapp and FB, but that's it. She can easily drug you, take your stuff, and disappear.
If you can deliver that sweet sweet teenage Latina pussy, you've got a deal. I'm sending my credit card info.
No but seriously is a million pesos a day too much or too little for a girl like this? Obviously assuming that the photo is accurate. Two hundred bucks sounds dirt cheap to me however I understand that Medellin prices are relatively low.Some thoughts:
1) I see no reason to 'wife up' with a girl in Medellin, particularly if it's one of your first trips. Plenty of girls this good looking or better that you can source from Facebook or the casas for less and you have the benefit of variety.
2) I personally see no reason to pay a girl for the entire day unless you have some fluency in Spanish, plan to have a lot of sex, and maybe doing a tour (ie Guatape) and having dinner. If this doesn't apply you're going to have an awkward time and will be paying her 10 x Colombian minimum wage to play on her phone all day.
3) For a day I'd say 500 k tops. This girl would be 250 k to 300 k for FS over 1-2 hours and she probably only gets 2-3 mongers a week. I think she'd be fine with 500 k. Of note, the last time I paid full day was back in Sept / Oct when a favorita from Barranquilla joined me at a Santa Marta resort. I paid 350k / day, but covered all other expenses. With sex 3x a day, including once bare back, it was well worth it. For context she has a college degree and makes $650/mth which is apparently quite good. For her, she just had the opportunity to take some nice photos for her 100k IG followers.
4) Whatever you pay, know that it will be more as she'll be with you the ENTIRE day and wanting food, additional clothing, things for her sick grandma, etc. So add 300 k.
Overall I understand how you can say $200 is cheap, but recognize this is not Europe or the US. With the cost of living $200 is closer to $800 in the US give or take and employment prospects much worse.
PigSavinBoy
02-15-23, 03:42
Thanks for the ideas Knowledge and Recondite.
So why not learn Spanish? When I was interested to have proper conversations with people in various countries, I learned their languages.By proper I meant fluent -- understanding all that's said, effortlessly cracking jokes, flirting, using metaphors, irony, idioms. All done spontaneously without any pauses to find the right words.
I am learning (damn conjugations are killing me) and fluency is the end goal, but it won't happen next week (nor even next year) so in the so-called meantime it might be fun to get in with some English speaking Colombianas as well (and it could actually help with progress, even if she isn't fluent it might still be beneficial to have a live translator at hand).
When I 'dated', or rather hung out for extended periods of time with some chicas, pretty quickly I reached the limit of my Spanish and then the experience just wasn't too fun, ranging from fkn boring (there is only so much conversation at 6 yo level one can take), frustrating -- when girl is clearly sharing something and I don't understand most of it; or when I want to quickly comment or respond to something, can't find the words and the opportunity passes before I can even start to pull out the translator (too late to make that joke now, the chica with baboon ass already passed or the yellow bird flew away), to feeling like work instead of chill -- both parties sweating their brains and palms translating on the phone back and forth (which is the last thing I feel like doing after a good session).
Anthony2023
02-15-23, 04:15
I was unconscious for 45+ hours and she cleaned me out of 5 k worth of stuff plus passport, credit cards, phone, etc... charged a ton of stuff over the 2 days I was out. Whether it was solopamine or horse tranquilizer I have no idea, but I was down in 10-15 seconds. It was the same week that the kid from California was scoped and killed by the girl he met on Tinder.
Anyway. Abide by all of JBee's rules, even for the regular ones until you get to know them better. There are several stories of guys knowing girls for weeks and even months before getting scoped. You may have the girls whatsapp and FB, but that's it. She can easily drug you, take your stuff, and disappear.Did you lower your daily ATM withdrawal and transaction limit when you arrived to Colombia?
Was it difficult to get your passport back? Did they accept a photo copy?
I think this is the same guy that posted a gazillion "stupid" questions in the Rio thread, but once the date came that it was time to go, something came up. Now it is time to do the same in the Medellin thread.Yup. People called him out on his BS in that thread and they'll eventually do the same here. He never went to Rio and he'll never go to Medellin.
Anthony2023
02-15-23, 04:34
Not sure about "most american visitors" being old but personally I didn't consider paying for sex until the girls I wanted to fuck were less than half my age and it was the only way possible to fuck the same type girls I was fucking as a young guy. It does suprise me how many younger guys I see in Medellin and most probably looking for P4 P. Hell I'm in Pattaya now and it shocks me that in the best gogo most young asian guys appear to be about the same age as the girls dancing on stage. Not being judgemental but I just couldn't have imagined doing that myself. So yeah I'm guilty of often being in Medellin as an older guy haha.I think it's just a generational thing, more younger guys are waking up, making more money and realizing we don't have to settle for just 1 chick. Today's young women in america are not the same like they were back in your day either way.
It's hilarious when people and even working girls think us younger mongers do it because it's our only option. Actually we do it because it gives us plenty of options. Besides it's never free, you have to pay for it one way or another, I rather just pay to put in less time because to me time is more valuable.
Some thoughts:
1) I see no reason to 'wife up' with a girl in Medellin, particularly if it's one of your first trips. Plenty of girls this good looking or better that you can source from Facebook or the casas for less and you have the benefit of variety.
2) I personally see no reason to pay a girl for the entire day unless you have some fluency in Spanish, plan to have a lot of sex, and maybe doing a tour (ie Guatape) and having dinner. If this doesn't apply you're going to have an awkward time and will be paying her 10 x Colombian minimum wage to play on her phone all day.
3) For a day I'd say 500 k tops. This girl would be 250 k to 300 k for FS over 1-2 hours and she probably only gets 2-3 mongers a week. I think she'd be fine with 500 k. Of note, the last time I paid full day was back in Sept / Oct when a favorita from Barranquilla joined me at a Santa Marta resort. I paid 350k / day, but covered all other expenses. With sex 3x a day, including once bare back, it was well worth it. For context she has a college degree and makes $650/mth which is apparently quite good. For her, she just had the opportunity to take some nice photos for her 100k IG followers.
4) Whatever you pay, know that it will be more as she'll be with you the ENTIRE day and wanting food, additional clothing, things for her sick grandma, etc. So add 300 k.
Overall I understand how you can say $200 is cheap, but recognize this is not Europe or the US. With the cost of living $200 is closer to $800 in the US give or take and employment prospects much worse.7 years ago I did cost of living comparisons between Indianapolis and cities in Medellin. Indianapolis has one of the lowest cost of living in the US. I believe it came out that Indianapolis is 151% more expensive than Medellin. That was with an exchange rate of 3000 to 1.
Add in the poverty rate and you're not making a fair comparison. In the US cheap prostitutes tend to be the dregs, drug problems, mental health problems. In Colombia a cheap prostitute is just a normal girl whose major flaw is she lacks initiative. Here $10 is a lot of money. It's roughly 1 days pay for manual labor. $50 is a day's pat for a low level white collar job. $100 is management level daily salary. The President of Colombia earns about 600 k pesos per day and half the people will say he's fucking the entire country.
On that scale, 1 million COP to just fuck 1 guy daily seems a bit high.
Anthony2023
02-15-23, 11:00
What happened to the website? Why did they make changes?
Without being able to see profile photos, or reviews / comments, also they took away the option to view recently updated profiles, it's pretty much useless now.
Agree with this 100%. I was scoped back in mid November, many of you saw my report at that time.
Backstory.
I like to mix my Medellin trips up with a mix of pros, semi-pros, and non-pros. For the semi-pros I was using Bumble which in my prior experience had Paisas which were looking for more of a normal relationship as opposed to straight P4 P (as is the case with Tinder). It had worked for meeting girls with normal girls in the past, often with free sex and deeper relationships / friendships after 2-3 dates. Anyway, this particular time was scoped at the end of the second date with the girl in my apartment. We never once discussed payment and I didn't even sleep with her. I was making her dinner and she scoped my drink when I stepped out on the balcony to get steaks off of the grill. I was unconscious for 45+ hours and she cleaned me out of 5 k worth of stuff plus passport, credit cards, phone, etc... charged a ton of stuff over the 2 days I was out. Whether it was solopamine or horse tranquilizer I have no idea, but I was down in 10-15 seconds. It was the same week that the kid from California was scoped and killed by the girl he met on Tinder.
Anyway. Abide by all of JBee's rules, even for the regular ones until you get to know them better. There are several stories of guys knowing girls for weeks and even months before getting scoped. You may have the girls whatsapp and FB, but that's it. She can easily drug you, take your stuff, and disappear.There should be a rogues' gallery of girls who have scoped guys in Colombia in a thread on ISG using girls' photos from facebook, whatsapp, etc.
Mr Enternational
02-15-23, 16:05
I am learning (damn conjugations are killing me) and fluency is the end goal, but it won't happen next week (nor even next year)Write out flash cards. Start with the present / present indicative. On one side write the infinitive and on the other side write the conjugations. For example in English write "to be" on one side. On the other side write on different lines "I am, You are, he She It is, They are".
Start out with your main most frequently used verbs like to ser, estar, ir.
Mr Enternational
02-15-23, 16:59
It's hilarious when people and even working girls think us younger mongers do it because it's our only option. Actually we do it because it gives us plenty of options. Funny people would think that. You look online and see that young American chicks are more promiscuous than ever and do not care who knows it.
By proper I meant fluent -- understanding all that's said, effortlessly cracking jokes, flirting, using metaphors, irony, idioms. All done spontaneously without any pauses to find the right words.
You set a very high bar. Most BMs can't do that in English, nor most Colombians in Spanish!
What happened to the website? Why did they make changes?
it's pretty much useless now.It was pretty much useless in the first place. I dunno why anyone would think their experience with a particular girl is going to be like any other person's experience with a girl. Personal reviews are pointless beyond red flagging.
HarryDubois
02-15-23, 17:27
Based on research that I have done, I think that there are several reasons why Medellin gets more attention on ISG that any other city in the world. It seems to be like the #1 monger destination or at least a top contender.
Several things combine to make Medellin the world's best sex worker destination:
Genetics:
The population is a mix of about 80% Spanish and 20% Native American.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paisa_(region).
The Spanish were mainly from the Extremadura and Basque areas. Women will generally be about 5'2", European features, dark eyes, dark straight hair shoulder to waist length, light brown to white skin. There are also many recent Venezuelan refugees.
Poverty:
More than 50% of the population in the Medellin metropolitan area is poor, meaning an income of under $90 per month per person.
https://www.oecd.org/education/executive.pdf
https://colombiareports.com/colombias-poverty-rate-down-to-39-3-as-economy-recovers-from-pandemic/
The youth unemployment rate amounted to 26.44 percent in 2021. The youth unemployment rate refers to the share of the economically active population aged 15 to 24 currently without work but in search of employment. The youth unemployment rate does not include economically inactive persons such as the long-term unemployed or full-time students.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/811936/youth-unemployment-rate-in-colombia
Sex drive:
Spanish people seem to have a very high sex drive.
https://www.expatmadrid.com/2018/05/28/sex-in-spain/
https://latinawoman.org/latina-women-in-bed
So Medellin offers a vast number of passionate, beautiful and very poor girls which may be unmatched elsewhere.
The only fly in the ointment seems to be the drugging and robbing problem, however that never or almost never happens with a WG. So long as you are paying her for sex, you should be fine. Plus of course stick to low crime areas like El Poblado and don't do anything illegal like buying drugs, selling drugs, pimping out girls, sex with underage girls etc.
If you are looking for more normal dating experiences or friendships with a girl that speaks some English, I'd try to look for a girl interested in a language exchange. I've heard about weekly meetups in Poblado and have seen ads about language exchanges on Gringo Paisa (Facebook group for Medellin ex-pats). There are a few Facebook girls that are known for their English (can think of a couple off the top of my head). I can't give you first-hand knowledge about any of these topics, though, as I spoke Spanish fluently before I ever came to Medellin.
Upping your Spanish is definitely going to improve your experience. Also hanging out with non-English speakers is the fastest way to get there once you have a basic level of Spanish. You might want to keep a notebook with you and write down a couple of words your girls are repeating over and over again that you don't understand. Ask her to repeat that word. Put that in your translator or look it up. Try to learn ten to twenty of those words every day you hang out. That approach has worked for me as a way to improve my understanding of other languages.
Thanks for the ideas Knowledge and Recondite.
By proper I meant fluent -- understanding all that's said, effortlessly cracking jokes, flirting, using metaphors, irony, idioms. All done spontaneously without any pauses to find the right words.
It's hilarious when people and even working girls think us younger mongers do it because it's our only option. Actually we do it because it gives us plenty of options. Besides it's never free, you have to pay for it one way or another, I rather just pay to put in less time because to me time is more valuable.Okay so you want to make yourself feel better about paying. Truth is there's no reason for anyone young, in shape with looks, game, and decent income to be paying outside of rare occasions. And no you don't "pay one way or another. " Buying someone drinks and a meal doesn't count of course as many of us do that for family and friends. Picking up the tab at the restaurant is just custom on a date, not payment for sex. Plus sex is typically better with someone who wants to have it with you as opposed to those that do it because they were paid.
PigSavinBoy
02-15-23, 20:47
Write out flash cards. Start with the present / present indicative. On one side write the infinitive and on the other side write the conjugations. For example in English write "to be" on one side. On the other side write on different lines "I am, You are, he She It is, They are".
Start out with your main most frequently used verbs like to ser, estar, ir.Good advice, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm using Anki software for that (which I've been using for years now for other stuff), a deck where I can filter and practice chosen verbs and tenses. Started initially with just an 'I' present tense of most common verbs, then added 'you' (since I found myself using these two the most), then expanding to past, future and plus other verbs and persons. But tracking my progress and retention it seems like it's going to take an awfully long time to learn all the fundamentals (and fluency seems so far ahead it's hardy imaginable), hence some new interest in the English-speaking chicas for LT.
BTW how long did it take you (and other guys feel free to share your experience in as well) to learn the language to satisfactory level?
Also, do Colombians normally study English in schools here as part of standard curriculum, like in high schools or universities?
FlowState985
02-15-23, 20:49
Write out flash cards. Start with the present / present indicative. On one side write the infinitive and on the other side write the conjugations. For example in English write "to be" on one side. On the other side write on different lines "I am, You are, he She It is, They are".
Start out with your main most frequently used verbs like to ser, estar, ir.Dude, this is a great idea. I was doing it on a notebook but flash card would be better.
PigSavinBoy
02-15-23, 20:51
You set a very high bar. Most BMs can't do that in English, nor most Colombians in Spanish!True, tall ask, which is why I'd be also satisfied with a chica that speaks just some intermediate English. Though it did happen once when 20-something Colombian guy approached me to practice English (or maybe to show it off). It was like entering an alternate universe and I was like WTF, are you even Colombian? Where is your accent? Totally effortless and fun conversation on both sides. Couldn't believe him he'd never even been to any English-speaking countries. As far I could tell he was fluent. (Man, you don't need to practice shit, what are you selling? Do I still have my wallet?
PigSavinBoy
02-15-23, 21:14
If you are looking for more normal dating experiences or friendships with a girl that speaks some English, I'd try to look for a girl interested in a language exchange. I've heard about weekly meetups in Poblado and have seen ads about language exchanges on Gringo Paisa (Facebook group for Medellin ex-pats). There are a few Facebook girls that are known for their English (can think of a couple off the top of my head). I can't give you first-hand knowledge about any of these topics, though, as I spoke Spanish fluently before I ever came to Medellin.
Upping your Spanish is definitely going to improve your experience. Also hanging out with non-English speakers is the fastest way to get there once you have a basic level of Spanish. You might want to keep a notebook with you and write down a couple of words your girls are repeating over and over again that you don't understand. Ask her to repeat that word. Put that in your translator or look it up. Try to learn ten to twenty of those words every day you hang out. That approach has worked for me as a way to improve my understanding of other languages.Thank you for suggestions Recondite, I'll look into that. Your are on point in regards to hanging out with locals -- I did pick up some new words and phrases doing just that. At my current level it can quickly become overwhelming though where I can't retain much or follow the convo but once I'll have the fundamentals mastered I should get much more benefit from that approach hopefully.
When locals are talking fast it's often difficult to differentiate when one word begins and other ends, especially when they don't seem to pronounce the world endings or when 'estoy' becomes 'toy' and 'gusta' 'uta', like in the song Una Noche En Medellin where I can barely make out much besides the words in the title hah.
I do have my 'personal dictionary and phrasebook' as well (where 'repite por favor' figures at the beginning of it highlighted in yellow hah) which I'm always expanding, biggest problem for me at this point seems to be retention, hopefully should improve with more practice and exposure.
Thanks for your input, appreciated.
PigSavinBoy
02-15-23, 21:37
What happened to the website? Why did they make changes?
Without being able to see profile photos, or reviews / comments, also they took away the option to view recently updated profiles, it's pretty much useless now.Maybe they got spooked by the recent media circus / crack-down on the Medellin gringo 'party planners'. They restricted it soon after.
I rather just pay to put in less time because to me time is more valuable.Regarding time, well if you are enjoying the company of the girl then it's time well spent. If not then it's time to build a connection elsewhere which typically leads to better sex than paying money. Or maybe you don't like women other than to fuck them, quite common in communities like this actually. In which case paying as the go to method probably isn't a bad idea.
On my last trip, I stayed at the San Peter Apartment Suites in Laureles. The place is popular among gringos. I thought it was a decent place. It has a kitchen with a stove, microwave, sink, and frig. It also has a washer. There is a separate bedroom. The bathroom is fine except that water temperature is hard to control. It seems to be cold or very hot. The girls did not like that. Ja ja ja. It was guest friendly and I had no problems with girls visiting me. I did not have any threesomes so I can't report on two girls coming at the same time but girls coming on the same day at different times was not a problem.
All in, it was about $50 a night. I booked thru Agoda and you have to pay San Peter directly when you arrive. They surprised me by saying cash only, no credit card so you need to hit those ATMs to pay the bill upfront. They did give me an extra day to pay. They said only on Airbnb could you pay by credit card but there is an additional charge when you book through Airbnb.
The biggest issue is probably noise at night. There is a bar connected to the hotel / apt but I think it is the nightclub next door that is the issue. Music blaring until 2 am or so. I don't know because when I am tired, I just sleep right through the music and I am dead to the world. If you are a light sleeper, it could be a problem. That was my room. Maybe there are rooms less noisy. I don't know.
The guys staying at the place are very friendly and I spoke to a number of guys when I am in the lobby or in the elevator. It is like a small version of the Mansion because most of the guys staying there are there for the purpose.
Very close to the 70 where there are a lot of restaurants, bars, a supermarket, banks, money exchanges and everything you need as a gringo visitor. No streetwalkers though. There are some prepagos that are located in nearby apartments in Laureles based on some research but I did not partake.
There is only one elevator so it could take a while at times. 17 floor building, I think.
All the receptionists are older women and they are very nice. There is one person who does not speak English but the rest of the ladies seem to speak English.
I thought it was decent place to stay but the night time noise may be an issue for some.
Did you lower your daily ATM withdrawal and transaction limit when you arrived to Colombia?
Was it difficult to get your passport back? Did they accept a photo copy?They didn't get any money out of the ATM as I have a pin and both Schwab and Chase are awesome. That noted, I think limit is $1 k.
The worst thing was that they had my personal laptop which they used my face to open and then added a pin to unlock afterwards. Since that was a 'trusted' device they got into my eBay and Paypal to cause havoc by adding my credit cards.
For passport I needed to go to Bogota. I had photo copies of my passport, birth certificate, and drivers license. All of that helped. I was in line at 9:30 am and had my new passport by 3 pm and flew out that night. It's just an Emergency Passport (good for 1 year), so need to renew.
Did you lower your daily ATM withdrawal and transaction limit when you arrived to Colombia?
Was it difficult to get your passport back? Did they accept a photo copy?You've mentioned this a few times and it makes no sense. Lower your daily withdrawal limit? When they withdraw money they see your balance (at least at most banks here). Which means they take out what they can and come back the next day and the next and the next until they have it all. What do they do with you? Keep you unconscious or just kill you.
The smart way to handle this, if it concerns you, is to have an account with Fidelity or Schwab. You keep your cash in the investment account. You transfer money to your bank account when you want to take money out at an ATM. If you were to get 'scoped' or kidnapped or something. They would take out the daily limit money but see the balance was almost gone. There wouldn't be any motivation to keep you after they got all the money. ATMs don't show balances in investment accounts at the same financial institution.
Same with a transaction limit on your credit card. Usually that means notification if your do more than 3 transactions in a day (or whatever you set it at) it doesn't mean you can't do 4 or 5. Even if your bank allows you to set a hard limit, that just means they wait a day to get a few more charges, and the next day and the next etc. BTW what do you want to do with your credit card anyway? Colombia is mostly a cash based economy. Prepay your hotel or place your are staying and pay cash for your restaurants, taxis, bar bills, etc. So what happens if there is an emergency and you need to buy a plane ticket or something else? Just transfer money from your investment account to your bank account and pay in cash. It shouldn't wreck your lifestyle if it happens to come up.
At the very least hide your damn credit card somewhere no one could ever find it. A lot of better hotels have a security box in the reception area (at my hotel it is like a safe deposit box). Put your card in an envelope and leave it there.
As to the passport. You call the American Embassy in Bogota and they will help you get an emergency passport. You won't be able to fly on a copy of our passport.
Start out with your main most frequently used verbs like to ser, estar, ir.And then be prepared to be confused AF since ser and estar is the same word in English, and since ser and ir have some identical meanings ("I was" and "I went" are the same in Spanish, for example). But yeah, flash cards work great. Keep them in your pocket and look at them while you are wasting time in lines.
Dcrist0527
02-16-23, 03:11
1 day into my trip, just a couple things to report.
Parque Lleras is largely open. There are still some areas closed off but probably 70% complete. It is a little nicer but for the time spent on the work, I would have expected better. FWIW, there were not a ton of girls inside the park. In fact there were just a few on the fringes. Most still hung out on Calle 10.
Lleras Park bar. For the first time, I saw a fair number of lookers there last night. I'm not totally in love with the vibe but it works. Going to hit it up tonight to see if the quality is still there.
Gustos (remember, my dick, my money); really disappointed. Arrived about 11:30 or 12. It was nearly empty. Didn't spend much time up there. Went back to Lleras Park.
The mansion bar: spent a few hours there. I don't have a room there but yes, you can still pay the cover and go in. My impression: the girls are a level below alot of places. But I've been really pleased with the quality of sessions with the girls I pull from there. It's negotiable but 200 k will get you a good session.
Last but not least: happy massage. A trip to Medellin is not complete until I go to Happy. It is not FS. Nor is it inexpensive. But I just love that place. The girls are awesome. Again, he only.
Thank you for suggestions Recondite, I have found working girls a useful tool to practice Spanish too, apart from those that speak gutter / barrio Spanish. Many of them don't have a gigantic vocabulary and their level of Spanish is not so advanced. Plus they are usually very patient.
And then be prepared to be confused AF since ser and estar is the same word in English, and since ser and ir have some identical meanings ("I was" and "I went" are the same in Spanish, for example). But yeah, flash cards work great. Keep them in your pocket and look at them while you are wasting time in lines.The literal translations of the Spanish verbs "estar" and "ser" are the exact same in English (to be), but they absolutely do not mean the identical same thing in Spanish. Keeping it really, really simple the former can be temporal while the latter is about the essence of something or someone that is more of a fixed or permanent characteristic. In English we don't have multiple verbs for "being". This makes it confusing and challenging, at least at first, to learn the differences between estar and ser and how to use those verbs in Spanish correctly. English also doesn't have "masculine" and "feminine" which I find to be (ser would be appropriate here haha) really fucking annoying! Why? Just to make it harder to learn Spanish? LOL!
Explorer8939
02-16-23, 05:18
I am thinking about a visit to Medellin later this year, planning to stay in an AirBnB, if I can figure out how to ensure that I can bring ladies to my place.
I am fluent in Spanish (amazingly).
What I would like to know if Medellin is worth it, compared to Tijuana to warrant the travel time and expense from California. Tijuana ladies are now asking for $100 for a quickie, and they can be very mechanical.
Those numbers are from several years ago, it's at least double that now.Thanks for the catch. Currently it's 1,087,500 COP daily (1,087,467 if you're being picky). The point still stands.
Do you guys think having an uncovered BJ at the casa is taking a big chance for std?
Another question, some regular girls just come over to get paid, after ine nut they want to leave and GFE experience is super hard to find. Has that been other peoples experience?
Medellin is well forth the extra travel time and it is a hassle to get there from the West Coast, expect at least a 14 HR - 20 HR trip. Is it worth it? Hell yes, you will be throwing rocks at Tijuana after you visit Medellin. I usually stay 2-4 weeks when I visit so the 2 long travel days is not too bad. For $62 you can have a girl for a few hours and have GFE too if you play your cards right.
I am thinking about a visit to Medellin later this year, planning to stay in an AirBnB, if I can figure out how to ensure that I can bring ladies to my place.
I am fluent in Spanish (amazingly).
What I would like to know if Medellin is worth it, compared to Tijuana to warrant the travel time and expense from California. Tijuana ladies are now asking for $100 for a quickie, and they can be very mechanical.
BlueChange
02-18-23, 03:30
I am thinking about a visit to Medellin later this year, planning to stay in an AirBnB, if I can figure out how to ensure that I can bring ladies to my place.
I am fluent in Spanish (amazingly).
What I would like to know if Medellin is worth it, compared to Tijuana to warrant the travel time and expense from California. Tijuana ladies are now asking for $100 for a quickie, and they can be very mechanical.Ask thd airbnb "Hi what's the guest policy because I have some meetings for work and some things I wanted to show clients".
That ususally is the best way to know if its unlimited or if it's strict. If its strick they will say "no more then 3 or so per visit".
I know what buildings are cool if you want to dm me I can tell you some to look for.
Medellin is well forth the extra travel time and it is a hassle to get there from the West Coast, expect at least a 14 HR - 20 HR trip. Is it worth it? Hell yes, you will be throwing rocks at Tijuana after you visit Medellin. I usually stay 2-4 weeks when I visit so the 2 long travel days is not too bad. For $62 you can have a girl for a few hours and have GFE too if you play your cards right.I am going to make my first trip in a few weeks. I will fly from Bay Area to LAX and take Avianca to Medellin. I am looking online and You Tube for AirBNB at El Problado or Laurels. I am talking to women on Seeking and Tinder. It's hard to know which way to go. I am total sex-pat want to be. I don't care about "drinks" I am intersted in meeting women. I might try to go to a club to get takeout. Any ideas I am open to.
Ask thd airbnb "Hi what's the guest policy because I have some meetings for work and some things I wanted to show clients".
That ususally is the best way to know if its unlimited or if it's strict. If its strick they will say "no more then 3 or so per visit".
I know what buildings are cool if you want to dm me I can tell you some to look for.Best, I think, to be more direct and ask the host about whether they allow guests overnight. Most places have some system for monitoring guests and if they don't like what you are doing they can boot your az to the street with no refund. And Airbnb will not be on your side if they say that it is because you are participating in sex tourism. Sex tourism is hugely different than having a friend or co worker drop by for a tea in the afternoon.
Was in Medellin in November and had a great time. Stayed in Laureles and Poblado. Parque lleras is an experience and near by road. Wished the construction was completed though. Met another monger and hung out a few days. Checked out Gusto but won't be going back, priced both of us out as we could had stayed home for the price. Visited El Centro but didn't partake.
Overall it was fun and a great first experience!
Met an Uber driver who offered personal taxi and other services. He was willing to do mongering tours but I didn't take it up as I didn't have time. His brother has a boat on Guatape and seems like he helps throe parties or at least helps with logistics such as finding sites and girls. He knows some prepagos which I got their contact, but did not partake, again not enough time.
Never used his services but seems nice enough, speaks English pretty good. Feel free to PM me for his contact.
Ask thd airbnb "Hi what's the guest policy because I have some meetings for work and some things I wanted to show clients".
That ususally is the best way to know if its unlimited or if it's strict. If its strick they will say "no more then 3 or so per visit".
I know what buildings are cool if you want to dm me I can tell you some to look for.This is funny to me just be straight out and ask if you can bring dates and overnight. Why beat around the Bush? They know you're a sex tourist and there's no way around it. I do this in all my travels Latin America and Europe.
Do you guys think having an uncovered BJ at the casa is taking a big chance for std?
Another question, some regular girls just come over to get paid, after ine nut they want to leave and GFE experience is super hard to find. Has that been other peoples experience?Yes your dick will fall off in a month.
You've mentioned this a few times and it makes no sense. Lower your daily withdrawal limit? When they withdraw money they see your balance (at least at most banks here). Which means they take out what they can and come back the next day and the next and the next until they have it all. What do they do with you? Keep you unconscious or just kill you.
The smart way to handle this, if it concerns you, is to have an account with Fidelity or Schwab. You keep your cash in the investment account. You transfer money to your bank account when you want to take money out at an ATM. If you were to get 'scoped' or kidnapped or something. They would take out the daily limit money but see the balance was almost gone. There wouldn't be any motivation to keep you after they got all the money. ATMs don't show balances in investment accounts at the same financial institution.
Same with a transaction limit on your credit card. Usually that means notification if your do more than 3 transactions in a day (or whatever you set it at) it doesn't mean you can't do 4 or 5. Even if your bank allows you to set a hard limit, that just means they wait a day to get a few more charges, and the next day and the next etc. BTW what do you want to do with your credit card anyway? Colombia is mostly a cash based economy. Prepay your hotel or place your are staying and pay cash for your restaurants, taxis, bar bills, etc. So what happens if there is an emergency and you need to buy a plane ticket or something else? Just transfer money from your investment account to your bank account and pay in cash. It shouldn't wreck your lifestyle if it happens to come up.
At the very least hide your damn credit card somewhere no one could ever find it. A lot of better hotels have a security box in the reception area (at my hotel it is like a safe deposit box). Put your card in an envelope and leave it there.
As to the passport. You call the American Embassy in Bogota and they will help you get an emergency passport. You won't be able to fly on a copy of our passport.You don't have to have schwab or fidelity to do what you are saying; you can use any bank in fact. I myself use Capital one. What you do is you open a checking and a Savings account but you only link the checking account to your debit card, not your Savings account, you can call the customer service at the bank to have it set up this way. Then you keep your big money in the non linked savings account and whenever you need to use the ATM just get on your banking app and transfer what you need from the savings to the checking and then withdrawal at the ATM. There used to be a limit of 6 transfers per month out of the savings account this used to be called Regulation the and they used to charge you a fee if you withdrew or transfered out more than 6 times per month, however that Regulation the was suspended as of 2021 because of Covid and it hasn't been reinstated, capital one even confirmed this when I called and asked about it. So you can make as many transfers out of the savings per month as you want. So don't be afraid to keep your thousands in that unlinked Savings account and just transfer and withdraw as needed. If anyone ever steals your debit card, the money in the savings will be untouchable (unless if they also stole your phone and had access to your banking app in which case you would be fucked). But you can minimize that by using a burner phone that doesn't have your banking app on it or just leaving the your phone at home / hotel or whatever.
And as Villlany noted alot of banks will show on the ATM receipt how much is avail in the account printed on the receipt, but when using this method it only shows how much is left available in the corrientes (checking) account and the ahorros (savings) option doesn't work or show anything, it will just give an error msg.
-Gabacho.
Medellin is well forth the extra travel time and it is a hassle to get there from the West Coast, expect at least a 14 HR - 20 HR trip. Is it worth it? Hell yes, you will be throwing rocks at Tijuana after you visit Medellin. I usually stay 2-4 weeks when I visit so the 2 long travel days is not too bad. For $62 you can have a girl for a few hours and have GFE too if you play your cards right.Absolutely agree with this. Tijuana is cool, yes, however, once I experienced the parade of women presented to you in the casas in Medellin I lost excitement for Tijuana (not entirely though because it's so easy to get there for me). Medellin is a great city to visit IMHO.
VsebudetNY
02-18-23, 17:46
The literal translations of the Spanish verbs "estar" and "ser" are the exact same in English (to be), but they absolutely do not mean the identical same thing in Spanish. Keeping it really, really simple the former can be temporal while the latter is about the essence of something or someone that is more of a fixed or permanent characteristic. In English we don't have multiple verbs for "being". This makes it confusing and challenging, at least at first, to learn the differences between estar and ser and how to use those verbs in Spanish correctly. English also doesn't have "masculine" and "feminine" which I find to be (ser would be appropriate here haha) really fucking annoying! Why? Just to make it harder to learn Spanish? LOL!The guy was born to be a teacher- Watch the videos and you will know when to use "ser" and when "estar". Watch his other videos to understand how to conjugate most of spanish verbs without memorizing all the forms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmpPhSNt1J4&list=PLv63dFTP4Sjq6knRsZQI-bTnRE38cZZoy&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ovM6bntSlw&list=PLv63dFTP4Sjq6knRsZQI-bTnRE38cZZoy&index=14
You don't have to have schwab or fidelity to do what you are saying; you can use any bank in fact. I myself use Capital one. What you do is you open a checking and a Savings account but you only link the checking account to your debit card, not your Savings account, you can call the customer service at the bank to have it set up this way. Then you keep your big money in the non linked savings account and whenever you need to use the ATM just get on your banking app and transfer what you need from the savings to the checking and then withdrawal at the ATM. There used to be a limit of 6 transfers per month out of the savings account this used to be called Regulation the and they used to charge you a fee if you withdrew or transfered out more than 6 times per month, however that Regulation the was suspended as of 2021 because of Covid and it hasn't been reinstated, capital one even confirmed this when I called and asked about it. So you can make as many transfers out of the savings per month as you want. So don't be afraid to keep your thousands in that unlinked Savings account and just transfer and withdraw as needed. If anyone ever steals your debit card, the money in the savings will be untouchable (unless if they also stole your phone and had access to your banking app in which case you would be fucked). But you can minimize that by using a burner phone that doesn't have your banking app on it or just leaving the your phone at home / hotel or whatever..You are exactly correct. I mentioned my account with Schwab and another friend does the same thing with his Fidelity account but as you said it is something easily arranged with most banks. This really protects you from an untoward event. Lowering your daily withdrawal limit gives the sense of security but it really doesn't protect you.
Hi everybody,
I'm going to Medellin, next week for 2 weeks. I'll visit Medellin, then I'll fly to Carthagene and then Bogota and will be back in Medellin at the end of my trip.
How much do you think I need for mongering, and visits for 2 weeks? I've right now 2500 euros for 2 weeks. Do you think it's enough?
And I plan to pay about 80 euros max per night for hotel so about 1000 euros more for the hotels for 2 weeks.
Do you think it's enough to enjoy Colombia and fuck pretty girls?
WankingDead
02-19-23, 12:39
Hi everybody,
I'm going to Medellin, next week for 2 weeks. I'll visit Medellin, then I'll fly to Carthagene and then Bogota and will be back in Medellin at the end of my trip.
How much do you think I need for mongering, and visits for 2 weeks? I've right now 2500 euros for 2 weeks. Do you think it's enough?
And I plan to pay about 80 euros max per night for hotel so about 1000 euros more for the hotels for 2 weeks.
Do you think it's enough to enjoy Colombia and fuck pretty girls?It depends.
If you plan on fucking one chica per day and eat cheap food you will need roughly $50 $60 per day that is less than $1000 for your trip.
You can multiply that by the number of gorls you are planning on entertaining.
John Gault
02-19-23, 15:31
I am going to make my first trip in a few weeks. I will fly from Bay Area to LAX and take Avianca to Medellin. I am looking online and You Tube for AirBNB at El Problado or Laurels. I am talking to women on Seeking and Tinder. It's hard to know which way to go. I am total sex-pat want to be. I don't care about "drinks" I am intersted in meeting women. I might try to go to a club to get takeout. Any ideas I am open to.How many posts do you have to read before you learn to stay away from Tinder. It appears to me Tinder is one of the main ways these Basterds use to drug people. If you just lose your goods it is not as bad as the many fellows who have died from an overdose from these girls on Tinder.
LoveItHere69
02-19-23, 17:24
How many posts do you have to read before you learn to stay away from Tinder. It appears to me Tinder is one of the main ways these Basterds use to drug people. If you just lose your goods it is not as bad as the many fellows who have died from an overdose from these girls on Tinder.I wish I knew just how many fools have watched the Youtube videos and read about scoping on this very site but still ignored us and thought it would not happen to them but did. I think the guys that actually know things should give opposite advice to stop guys from coming here. Such as: Go out at night alone and drunk because it is safe. The safest girls can be found on Tinder and Seeking. Take your camera out and take lots of pictures at Botero.
Not including Airfare I can go burn through $3,000 us in 2 weeks. This includes my AirBnb, girl every day, 60-90 minute massages every other day and eating all meals out. You could do this for much cheaper by all means but when I'm there I pull out all of the plugs, eat very well, nicer AirBnB and have the higher end girls. Just girls I budget $65 per day so $910 for mongering.
Hi everybody,
I'm going to Medellin, next week for 2 weeks. I'll visit Medellin, then I'll fly to Carthagene and then Bogota and will be back in Medellin at the end of my trip.
How much do you think I need for mongering, and visits for 2 weeks? I've right now 2500 euros for 2 weeks. Do you think it's enough?
And I plan to pay about 80 euros max per night for hotel so about 1000 euI ros more for the hotels for 2 weeks.
Do you think it's enough to enjoy Colombia and fuck pretty girls?
Honestly I would avoid internet girls in Medellin. There are so many casas to go to and meet girls in person, it isn't worth the scope risk. You should have no problem getting a girl to go to your hotel, if you offer more than she gets at the casa. Remember, whatever you pay the girl at the casa she is giving part to the house. As I stated in a previous post, getting girls to come to your place after a good session is easy in Medellin.
Not including Airfare I can go burn through $3,000 us in 2 weeks. This includes my AirBnb, girl every day, 60-90 minute massages every other day and eating all meals out. You could do this for much cheaper by all means but when I'm there I pull out all of the plugs, eat very well, nicer AirBnB and have the higher end girls. Just girls I budget $65 per day so $910 for mongering.Just use a 100 a day in your calculations and you will have plenty enough. I always came home with change.
AmorPorFavor
02-19-23, 19:54
Not including Airfare I can go burn through $3,000 us in 2 weeks. This includes my AirBnb, girl every day, 60-90 minute massages every other day and eating all meals out. You could do this for much cheaper by all means but when I'm there I pull out all of the plugs, eat very well, nicer AirBnB and have the higher end girls. Just girls I budget $65 per day so $910 for mongering.Where do you get your massages and how much are they?
For your Bogota portion of your trip, the girls in the Santa Fe clubs range from 70 k-130 k peso so about 13-25 euro for a 20 min session upstairs in the club. SG's are around roughly 50 k cop (about 10 euro). Poker beer and water are about 10 k cop (2 euro rough). Food is inexpensive and depends how fancy you want to eat. To give you a general idea I had 1/4 chicken, salad and fresh limeade was 15 k cop all the way up to an amazing grilled fish with a beer for 45 k cop. Depending on how you get around the public transport is basically 3 k cop a ride and if you're at one of the hotels nearby Santa Fe a taxi will be between 7-15 k cop max. Good luck.
Hi everybody,
I'm going to Medellin, next week for 2 weeks. I'll visit Medellin, then I'll fly to Carthagene and then Bogota and will be back in Medellin at the end of my trip.
How much do you think I need for mongering, and visits for 2 weeks? I've right now 2500 euros for 2 weeks. Do you think it's enough?
And I plan to pay about 80 euros max per night for hotel so about 1000 euros more for the hotels for 2 weeks.
Do you think it's enough to enjoy Colombia and fuck pretty girls?
PigSavinBoy
02-20-23, 02:58
Take your camera out and take lots of pictures at Botero.Botero Plaza has been much safer since they put up that fence and guard all the three gates. Hardly any SWs compared to my previous visit, majority have been pushed outside, some literally are propping the entrance gate right next to the police, interesting sight. Still some SWs inside since it's possible to bypass the gates via Veracruz shopping center (if it's not Sunday) but since there aren't that many people walking through the plaza anyway I guess the girls will give it up eventually.
No more 'sunbathers' in the park area either.
Strange to see the fountain area front of Veracruz church empty. Took some photos, not sure how long will that last.
Definitely less walking needed to find a SW now LOL, all concentrated and packed like sardines. If anything, one has to walk real slow or just stop to process it.
Saw a policemen with metal detectors patting down and checking bags of some working class people, I guess most people will eventually just avoid the hassle of walking through.
One gordita SW got into a fit when they didn't allow her to go in. Saw both SW and John asked for IDs and allowed in but they do seem to try make it annoying and difficult.
There were some police festivities when I passed through today -- a policeman was singing some love songs while two police-women danced with tourists, bizarre.
Mojo Bandit
02-20-23, 03:37
Anyone have any expereinces with testosterone in Colombia? It is related when I take it I wake up with boner and my engine running LOL. True story. I know from other forums that I can find testosterone over the counter but I am specifically looking for something more long acting. The longest acting I can find or a doctor who can write me a script so I can bring a boatload back through customs. I read in anothe forum that you can bring a few months supply. But this is unverified info.
FlappyGilmore0
02-20-23, 03:40
Both are equally guest friendly with security.
Energy is easier to meet other gringos, they have nice gym to work out and steam room, great restaurant on site, larger rooms.
Haven is easily walkable at night, has more in room jacuzzi options, rooftop events on Fridays, noisy.
Pros and cons? Girl friendly?
Anyone have any expereinces with testosterone in Colombia? It is related when I take it I wake up with boner and my engine running LOL. True story. I know from other forums that I can find testosterone over the counter but I am specifically looking for something more long acting. The longest acting I can find or a doctor who can write me a script so I can bring a boatload back through customs. I read in anothe forum that you can bring a few months supply. But this is unverified info.You can get plenty of the best test in the states and bring to Colombia. Why buy their product.
Test cyp is the best in my opinion.
Mojo Bandit
02-20-23, 04:59
You can get plenty of the best test in the states and bring to Colombia. Why buy their product.
Test cyp is the best in my opinion.Of course I have thought of that and of course I have researched that, but if that was an option for me than I would not be posting the question in the first place. First of all you cannot get test in the usa without a prescription and most doctors do not write a script unless you have a massive deficit. And they base that on your age. The older you are the more that deficist has to be because they allow for the natural test to go down with age.
Unless you live in a loosely regulated state like Florida where they have "aging clinics" that charge you 1000 dollars just to do the workup, exam and labs. And that's on top of your travel expenses. The they mark up a 60 dollar vile of test to 200 dollars.
So no thank you I would prefer to get it in Colombia where like all pharmecuticals they sell the same quality stuff for usually a lower price and I don't get shook down for hundreds of dollars by some sham doctor who owns a villa in the keys.
Of course I have thought of that and of course I have researched that, but if that was an option for me than I would not be posting the question in the first place. First of all you cannot get test in the usa without a prescription and most doctors do not write a script unless you have a massive deficit. And they base that on your age. The older you are the more that deficist has to be because they allow for the natural test to go down with age.
Unless you live in a loosely regulated state like Florida where they have "aging clinics" that charge you 1000 dollars just to do the workup, exam and labs. And that's on top of your travel expenses. The they mark up a 60 dollar vile of test to 200 dollars.
So no thank you I would prefer to get it in Colombia where like all pharmecuticals they sell the same quality stuff for usually a lower price and I don't get shook down for hundreds of dollars by some sham doctor who owns a villa in the keys.The same test you get from a doc is the same test bodybuilders use. Many sites you can get them 60 $ a bottle. But if you need to do things on the straight and arrow then you're going to have to do it the hard way.
Anthony2023
02-20-23, 12:29
Everybody knows about energy living Airbnb but has anyone had experience with GO living Airbnb? I'm thinking about staying there my first night or 2 when I go back.
Based on research that I have done, I think that there are several reasons why Medellin gets more attention on ISG that any other city in the world........You are mistaken. Many other cities get more attention on ISG than Medellin. You are not mindful of ISG configuration. Have a look at the Tijuana thread for example.
Botero Plaza has been much safer since they put up that fence and guard all the three gates. Hardly any SWs compared to my previous visit, majority have been pushed outside, some literally are propping the entrance gate right next to the police, interesting sight. Still some SWs inside since it's possible to bypass the gates via Veracruz shopping center (if it's not Sunday) but since there aren't that many people walking through the plaza anyway I guess the girls will give it up eventually.
No more 'sunbathers' in the park area either.
Strange to see the fountain area front of Veracruz church empty. Took some photos, not sure how long will that last.
Definitely less walking needed to find a SW now LOL, all concentrated and packed like sardines. If anything, one has to walk real slow or just stop to process it.I believe that with the high density of people outside of the barricades that the pick pockets are having a field day.
Definitely surreal walking around the front of the Veracruz Church and it being devoid of all the SW's. And lot's of the business's inside the barricaded area have been affected by this, and your correct, when people get searched to go inside the area they will start to avoid the area. Meaning places like Premier Plaza has less customers staying there' and their short time occupancy must be way down compared to before.
I think the barricading would be more appropriate to just include around the Museum, Park, and Statue areas as there are no business's that would be effected. Basically things would return to as they were before, while allowing the tourists to gawk at all of Botero's art work.
I suspect there will be some changes coming soon with the situation there as the business owners inside the barricaded area have to be up in arms.
RamDavidson84
02-20-23, 19:04
Everybody knows about energy living Airbnb but has anyone had experience with GO living Airbnb? I'm thinking about staying there my first night or 2 when I go back.Place is solid, if your just bringing one guest a night, its fine. Has a little gym as well and a coffee shop you can get water and snacks at. Clean, quiet, and safe. Downside is its not near anything else, so must uber to any place you want to go. Depending on traffic about 10 min to parque Lleras.
Anyone have any expereinces with testosterone in Colombia? It is related when I take it I wake up with boner and my engine running LOL. True story. I know from other forums that I can find testosterone over the counter but I am specifically looking for something more long acting. The longest acting I can find or a doctor who can write me a script so I can bring a boatload back through customs. I read in anothe forum that you can bring a few months supply. But this is unverified info.Available in pharmacies Nebido and Testuviron-- Nebido is a big shot-- lasts 5-8 weeks. 240 mil.
Testuviron 2 weeks 30 mil.
For your Bogota portion of your trip, the girls in the Santa Fe clubs range from 70 k-130 k peso so about 13-25 euro for a 20 min session upstairs in the club. SG's are around roughly 50 k cop (about 10 euro). Poker beer and water are about 10 k cop (2 euro rough). Food is inexpensive and depends how fancy you want to eat. To give you a general idea I had 1/4 chicken, salad and fresh limeade was 15 k cop all the way up to an amazing grilled fish with a beer for 45 k cop. Depending on how you get around the public transport is basically 3 k cop a ride and if you're at one of the hotels nearby Santa Fe a taxi will be between 7-15 k cop max. Good luck.Thanks for the nice info about prices in santa fe.
Since you are well familiar with both places, do you think it is worthwhile to travel to Bogota from medellin for 2-3 days to sample different providers?
Anthony2023
02-20-23, 22:17
Place is solid, if your just bringing one guest a night, its fine. Has a little gym as well and a coffee shop you can get water and snacks at. Clean, quiet, and safe. Downside is its not near anything else, so must uber to any place you want to go. Depending on traffic about 10 min to parque Lleras.Ok cool, good to know, since some airbnbs aren't guest friendly or like to charge fees. Even some threaten to charge you $500 usd in the description if you bring a guest. Ridiculous.
Here are some of my favorite places for massage.
Spa Therapias Medellin 90 minute massage $150,000 professional, no hanky panky.
Cra. 84 #37-35 Barrio Simon Bolivar.
Amatsu Spa Laureles 90 minutes $150,000.
Spa Manos Seda in Laureles Owner operator, pretty good massage that was semi erotic she may have a happy ending with some encouragement.
Lexi Nuru massage independent, has a nice incall in Laureles a couple of blocks from UniCentro Mall. Toe curling massage, on flip BBBJ and full sex. She went Cowgirl on me and stuck it in bareback, if your a condom guy let her know at start of session. 90 minutes $210,000. I saw her 3 times on my last trip. Message me for her contact info.
Where do you get your massages and how much are they?
I go to a men's health clinic. They believe men's target testosterone should be around a 1000. Mine was normal for my age at 450 but who wants to be normal? I want to be Superman! You do not want to go to a regular doctor because they will tell you your testosterone is in normal range for your age and not prescribe. I like the 20% testosterone cream, easy to apply and travel with. It cost me $350 for a 3 month supply. Blood work and exam $300-$500 once per year
Of course I have thought of that and of course I have researched that, but if that was an option for me than I would not be posting the question in the first place. First of all you cannot get test in the usa without a prescription and most doctors do not write a script unless you have a massive deficit. And they base that on your age. The older you are the more that deficist has to be because they allow for the natural test to go down with age.
Unless you live in a loosely regulated state like Florida where they have "aging clinics" that charge you 1000 dollars just to do the workup, exam and labs. And that's on top of your travel expenses. The they mark up a 60 dollar vile of test to 200 dollars.
So no thank you I would prefer to get it in Colombia where like all pharmecuticals they sell the same quality stuff for usually a lower price and I don't get shook down for hundreds of dollars by some sham doctor who owns a villa in the keys.
ISG.
Tijuana 3,786 reports.
Medellin 60,695 reports.
I would have to say that Medellin has a slight lead.
You are mistaken. Many other cities get more attention on ISG than Medellin. You are not mindful of ISG configuration. Have a look at the Tijuana thread for example.
Mr Enternational
02-20-23, 23:37
ISG.
Tijuana 3,786 reports.
Medellin 60,695 reports.
I would have to say that Medellin has a slight lead.LOL. Nice try. Tijuana has its own section with many threads. The general thread has 23,000 posts alone (which is where most people post), while one club, Hong Kong, has 17,000 posts.
RamDavidson84
02-21-23, 00:42
I go to a men's health clinic. They believe men's target testosterone should be around a 1000. Mine was normal for my age at 450 but who wants to be normal? I want to be Superman! You do not want to go to a regular doctor because they will tell you your testosterone is in normal range for your age and not prescribe. I like the 20% testosterone cream, easy to apply and travel with. It cost me $350 for a 3 month supply. Blood work and exam $300-$500 once per yearDo not start testosterone unless you want to do it for life. I have heard from many people the cream sucks. The injection is best. 1000 is high and you will be jacked up, downside is your blood will most likely thicken and this will hurt your cardio / stamina / mobility. Donate blood to thin it.
Bottom line, if your testosterone is normal and you feel fine, exercise and diet is way more beneficial and cheaper.
Testosterone will shut down your natural test and may even screw your libido up. It can also offset your hormone profile and lead to having to take more drugs to block high estrogen. This is not cheap to take these drugs and get these tests. Spend the extra cash on smokin hot latinas. If your age shows and you need a boost, testosterone can absolutely help, but it is a life time commitment to most likely having to do painful injections into yourself where scar tissue builds up. Your body will also over years require you to take higher and higher doses to get the same effect. This leads to more money spent and even more side effects, the worst of which can possibly be prostate cancer.
There are some guys who can take test for decades and they have very little side effects and reap the benefits. This represents a small percentage of men. Most guys will not be that lucky.
ChuchoLoco
02-21-23, 00:53
I go to a men's health clinic. They believe men's target testosterone should be around a 1000. Mine was normal for my age at 450 but who wants to be normal? I want to be Superman! You do not want to go to a regular doctor because they will tell you your testosterone is in normal range for your age and not prescribe. I like the 20% testosterone cream, easy to apply and travel with. It cost me $350 for a 3 month supply. Blood work and exam $300-$500 once per yearI get mine from endocrinologist. A 1,000 seems way to high for normal but it does feel incredible but. A few years ago I must have been doing too much somehow and I was in 8 or 9 hundreds and I was never so horny in my life. I wanted to fuck anything and I mean anything. I would have even fucked a rock if I knew there wasn't a snake under it! Good luck and have fun but be careful. Too much T can lead to too much estrogen which will create a whole lot of problems. Too much T also affects prostate so just be careful. But that feeling is just too good. Actually more like Superman on steroids.
What would happen for a 55 year old guy who is at 420 total and he got a shot of test at a pharmacy in Colombia? Is it possible to take the shot and have an increase in libido without any lasting side effects or would one shot even make a difference?
LOL. Nice try. Tijuana has its own section with many threads. The general thread has 23,000 posts alone (which is where most people post), while one club, Hong Kong, has 17,000 posts.I wouldn't even call that a legit "try" LOL! Don't know how he was counting, but it was clearly a faulty method. Guy would never be my accountant LOL!
Mojo Bandit
02-21-23, 08:24
Available in pharmacies Nebido and Testuviron-- Nebido is a big shot-- lasts 5-8 weeks. 240 mil.
Testuviron 2 weeks 30 mil.Thanks, Nebido is definitely what I would want to find. Is it available in most pharmacies in Medellin or would I have to look around for it?
My testosterone is 200 now. Pretty awful. Which is why I can't screw like I use too. Unfortunately I've been diagnosed recently with diabetes. Went to hospital with over 1000 blood sugar. I don't want to put any more substances in my body. Insulin, statins, diabetes meds. Testosterone will just make things worse. I figure I have 10 years left before I croak. I'm going to blow a ton of money next Rio trip. I can't take it with me so the hoes will get my money as it should be.
Thanks, Nebido is definitely what I would want to find. Is it available in most pharmacies in Medellin or would I have to look around for it?Yes, You should be able to find it most places.
Yes, You should be able to find it most places.Have you been able to get Nebido without a prescription? I've looked for it and my hovia has looked for it without much luck. We've found it in a few places but a prescription was required.
Mojo Bandit
02-22-23, 03:47
Have you been able to get Nebido without a prescription? I've looked for it and my hovia has looked for it without much luck. We've found it in a few places but a prescription was required.It would be nice to hear someone say that they have actually bought the Nebido over the counter.
Thanks for the nice info about prices in santa fe.
Since you are well familiar with both places, do you think it is worthwhile to travel to Bogota from medellin for 2-3 days to sample different providers?There are 1000's of girls available in Medellin who will make you happy 4 a small fee, absolutely no reason to go to Bogota.
Honestly I would avoid internet girls in Medellin. There are so many casas to go to and meet girls in person, it isn't worth the scope risk. You should have no problem getting a girl to go to your hotel, if you offer more than she gets at the casa. Remember, whatever you pay the girl at the casa she is giving part to the house. As I stated in a previous post, getting girls to come to your place after a good session is easy in Medellin.I could not disagree with you more. I have chatted with dozens of girls on facebook, invited many of them over & have had only 1 bad session. Most were GFE, all were BBBJ, & a few were ok with BBFS. I paid 200 k-300 k total 4 each of them. All but 1 stayed 2 hrs. Or more. I love facebook in mde!
What would happen for a 55 year old guy who is at 420 total and he got a shot of test at a pharmacy in Colombia? Is it possible to take the shot and have an increase in libido without any lasting side effects or would one shot even make a difference?There used to be reports of shots given at pharmacies in Costa Rica but in Colombia you'll likely have to take the product with you and self-administer.
I could not disagree with you more. I have chatted with dozens of girls on facebook, invited many of them over & have had only 1 bad session. Most were GFE, all were BBBJ, & a few were ok with BBFS. I paid 200 k-300 k total 4 each of them. All but 1 stayed 2 hrs. Or more. I love facebook in mde!I don't know anything about Facebook game. I should be more clear. I was talking escort agencies, seeking, and tinder.
He's probably right that you are at a higher risk with girls off the internet. I mostly pull from Facebook myself and have a similar experience to you with one or two girls where I didn't vibe (and this was in the beginning before I'd fully learned the ropes) and a lot of good to truly amazing experiences. That being said the safest venue and move would probably be Casas during the day. But what we do is inherently risky on many levels (meeting people we don't know, a higher number of scammers, STDS, being in a foreign country). If you can't stomach any risk stay home and jerk off. But be careful having too much fun in the shower as you might slip and kill yourself (jajaja). Otherwise take steps to be smart and mitigate the risks of your behavior like staying at a more secure spot, stowing valuables in a safe or hiding them, having a burner phone you use when traveling that doesn't have all your banking and personal data on it, investigating and screening people you meet, watch your drink, order taxis and pick meeting spots etc.
I could not disagree with you more. I have chatted with dozens of girls on facebook, invited many of them over & have had only 1 bad session. Most were GFE, all were BBBJ, & a few were ok with BBFS. I paid 200 k-300 k total 4 each of them. All but 1 stayed 2 hrs. Or more. I love facebook in mde!
He's probably right that you are at a higher risk with girls off the internet. I mostly pull from Facebook myself and have a similar experience to you with one or two girls where I didn't vibe (and this was in the beginning before I'd fully learned the ropes) and a lot of good to truly amazing experiences. That being said the safest venue and move would probably be Casas during the day. But what we do is inherently risky on many levels (meeting people we don't know, a higher number of scammers, STDS, being in a foreign country). If you can't stomach any risk stay home and jerk off. But be careful having too much fun in the shower as you might slip and kill yourself (jajaja). Otherwise take steps to be smart and mitigate the risks of your behavior like staying at a more secure spot, stowing valuables in a safe or hiding them, having a burner phone you use when traveling that doesn't have all your banking and personal data on it, investigating and screening people you meet, watch your drink, order taxis and pick meeting spots etc.I agree. I have only seen Facebook girls on my three trips to Medellin and I have generally been happy with the results. I need my cellphone when I travel to check on things but having a second cellphone when you go out is a good idea too. Staying in a hotel with security is also a good thing to do. The downside is that sometimes they are too rigid and you can't get your girl to your hotel room. Screening girls is always a good idea but sometimes I take chances on girls with very little on their FB profile and it has worked out. But that is taking additional risk.
But the point is that there are things you can do to make it safer if you are concerned. I would also agree that going to the casas and having sex in the casa and not in your hotel room is much safer if you don't want to take any chances. The girls will not drug or rob you in the casas because the casas are trying to run a business and you can't get customers if the girls are doing that in your casa.
There used to be reports of shots given at pharmacies in Costa Rica but in Colombia you'll likely have to take the product with you and self-administer.Many Pharmacies have a person and room to give shots-- The Nebido dose is difficult to draw up in the syringe because it is so large-- I have had tecks have trouble with that-- You should make sure the person is experienced-.
Testuviron comes preloaded in a syringe.
There are 1000's of girls available in Medellin who will make you happy 4 a small fee, absolutely no reason to go to Bogota.Way More chicas in Bogota-- on a busy night in Santa Fe you will see 300+ Hotties in very little time.
It would be nice to hear someone say that they have actually bought the Nebido over the counter.I have bought many times without script.
SdesChain19
02-22-23, 19:28
I could not disagree with you more. I have chatted with dozens of girls on facebook, invited many of them over & have had only 1 bad session. Most were GFE, all were BBBJ, & a few were ok with BBFS. I paid 200 k-300 k total 4 each of them. All but 1 stayed 2 hrs. Or more. I love facebook in mde!Where exactly in Facebook do you find these girls?
Way More chicas in Bogota-- on a busy night in Santa Fe you will see 300+ Hotties in very little time.There are Other strolls and Many massage parlor / casas -- Not to mention many agencies and much much less scopolomina dosing going on.
Mojo Bandit
02-23-23, 00:40
Many Pharmacies have a person and room to give shots-- The Nebido dose is difficult to draw up in the syringe because it is so large-- I have had tecks have trouble with that-- You should make sure the person is experienced-.
Testuviron comes preloaded in a syringe.Woodman09 Have you seen the Nebido available in pharmacies in Medellin without a prescription.
Lots of great information on the threads, but I hope you don't mind a difficult question to research. I tried to find this myself to no avail.
What is the next step up from Barra Ejectuvia without going to all the way to Fase II or La Isla? Thanks.
PigSavinBoy
02-23-23, 01:44
Lots of great information on the threads, but I hope you don't mind a difficult question to research. I tried to find this myself to no avail.
What is the next step up from Barra Ejectuvia without going to all the way to Fase II or La Isla? Thanks.Maybe Table Dance Grill Club or Luna Lunera, though I haven't been in either.
There used to be reports of shots given at pharmacies in Costa Rica but in Colombia you'll likely have to take the product with you and self-administer.Have you ever had a one time shot administered? I'm curious if a one time shot actually is in danger of producing increased libido and does it have any long term effects. Positive or negative.
Mojo Bandit
02-23-23, 03:09
Where exactly in Facebook do you find these girls?There is no special spot in FB. You have to put in the work. Go to the thread called Links to Reports of Distinction and use the Search Thread function to find three posts by a user named Nounce. One report is "getting started on Facebook" dated 5/24/21, another is called "Facebook" and date was 1/09/22 another report is called "Facebook for Newbies" dated 10/01/21.
Mojo Bandit
02-23-23, 03:25
I have bought many times without script.Sorry bro I asked you a question in a post earlier that you had already answered.
What is the next step up from Barra Ejectuvia without going to all the way to Fase II or La Isla? Thanks.Interesting question. Definitely a bit of a chasm between the two tiers. Probably some freelancer bars would be the closest thing in between but those are never sure things.
FlagRunner77
02-23-23, 04:11
Where exactly in Facebook do you find these girls?I can't PM you, otherwise I would help.
Lots of great information on the threads, but I hope you don't mind a difficult question to research. I tried to find this myself to no avail.
What is the next step up from Barra Ejectuvia without going to all the way to Fase II or La Isla? Thanks.I've never seen anything really between those levels as far as strip clubs go.
Ok, so I've read all the advice about how to search and friend girls in MDE. I had my first account shut down after two days but I've had a second account up now for about a week after including more personal info, pictures and posts and I'm slowly making progress with about 25 friends and 60 pending. My question is it seems like the vast majority of these girls are trying to sell online content. They are supposedly from MDE but am I wasting my time trying to chat with them or from your experience are these girls willing to meet in person? Maybe I'm friending the friends so I'm getting the same types of girls and I need to find more of the non pro types to link off their friends? Or is this just how it works down there? Do so many actually sell videos and / or private chats? Heading there in a few weeks so any tips are appreciated. Any good FB prospects you may have experience with that I could make contact with to build from would be appreciated. Thanks.
My testosterone is 200 now. Pretty awful. Which is why I can't screw like I use too. Unfortunately I've been diagnosed recently with diabetes. Went to hospital with over 1000 blood sugar. I don't want to put any more substances in my body. Insulin, statins, diabetes meds. Testosterone will just make things worse. I figure I have 10 years left before I croak. I'm going to blow a ton of money next Rio trip. I can't take it with me so the hoes will get my money as it should be.If you think you have 10 years then it will be 10 years, that's the power of the mind. Forget time limits. Enjoy yourself. It has been scientifically proven that an older man having relations with a younger woman adds more years to his life than if he did not.
ChuchoLoco
02-23-23, 15:23
If you think you have 10 years then it will be 10 years, that's the power of the mind. Forget time limits. Enjoy yourself. It has been scientifically proven that an older man having relations with a younger woman adds more years to his life than if he did not.This is excellent advice! Take it and enjoy!
I have bought many times without script.Is Nebido a steroid or testosterone? If testosterone, how did it affect or help you? Thanks.
Is Nebido a steroid or testosterone? If testosterone, how did it affect or help you? Thanks.Testosterone undecanoate, sold under the brand names Andriol and Aveed among others, is an androgen and anabolic steroid medication that is used mainly in the treatment of low testosterone levels in men, including hormone therapy for transgender men. It is taken by mouth or given by injection into muscle.
There is no special spot in FB. You have to put in the work. Go to the thread called Links to Reports of Distinction and use the Search Thread function to find three posts by a user named Nounce. One report is "getting started on Facebook" dated 5/24/21, another is called "Facebook" and date was 1/09/22 another report is called "Facebook for Newbies" dated 10/01/21.I'm not the one that asked for this, but thank you for pointing me to these posts. I spent a good 30 minutes looking for this information a few days ago. Now, I don't have to keep looking aimlessly.
I find chatting to be valuable but I'm looking for semipros and nonpros a lot of the time. A lot of pros won't bother talking to you much until you are in Medellin but will be blowing you up with messages if they know you are in the city. I don't blame them for that, they don't want to waste their time chatting to random guys they won't make money off of. As to girls selling content, a good percentage of them will probably see you (but keep what I just wrote in mind).
If you are looking for nonpros or semipros, chatting can be a good way to establish if you have common interests or a connection and can save time when you are in the city (I. E. Up your chance of having a normal girl be comfortable sleeping with you right away). I'll say Hi to a lot of chicas and I will respond to their messages. But, if they take forever to respond to me or don't respond to me, I'm not wasting more time on them. Ultimately it's a numbers game that can work to your advantage with a little perseverance. Facebook also gives you better returns depending on the time you invest in it and the time you are active. I didn't have nearly the options on my first trip when I had 25 or 30 friends as I did later. I think it's a great resource for people who like Medellin and plan on returning or who live there. I don't know if it's worth the investment for someone for a one-and-done trip.
Ok, so I've read all the advice about how to search and friend girls in MDE. I had my first account shut down after two days but I've had a second account up now for about a week after including more personal info, pictures and posts and I'm slowly making progress with about 25 friends and 60 pending. My question is it seems like the vast majority of these girls are trying to sell online content. They are supposedly from MDE but am I wasting my time trying to chat with them or from your experience are these girls willing to meet in person? Maybe I'm friending the friends so I'm getting the same types of girls and I need to find more of the non pro types to link off their friends? Or is this just how it works down there? Do so many actually sell videos and / or private chats? Heading there in a few weeks so any tips are appreciated. Any good FB prospects you may have experience with that I could make contact with to build from would be appreciated. Thanks.
John Gault
02-23-23, 21:10
Maybe Table Dance Grill Club or Luna Lunera, though I haven't been in either.Never heard of it. Anyone know of it?
As far as Barra Exitiva. Plenty of 8's in there for around 100 K. Really for the money the best bet. One thing to keep in mind. For the most part you have to make the first move.
This was my first time in Colombia.
Arriving into the Country.
Flew into Bogota then connected to Medellin with a two-hour lay over. I was asked for my Covide vaccine proof in the queue for customs. Money exchange rates were slightly better in Bogota Airport 1 USD = 4,300 or 4,400 COP if I recall vs 4,000 or 4,100 COP in Medelin Airport. There was a store as you exit arrivals in Bogata that was selling local SIMS but it was outrageous in price. I was able to get a SIM in MDE on the departures level from a little convenience-type store. I did get a message after a week saying my phone wasn't registered and it would be locked if I didn't register it soon, but since I only had two weeks in the country I didn't bother looking into this further.
Taxi from MDE using the tunnel to the Mansion where I stayed was 110 COP although I found through one of my Uber trips an awesome driver that speaks English (spent 10 years in New York) he charged me 100 mil on the way back for my departure back home. I hired him to take me around some of the Barrios as this was something I wanted to see but didn't necessarily feel comfortable going alone. He is an awesome guy and I am more than happy to share his contact details.
Accommodations.
I spent two nights in the Mansion as it was my first time in the country. I wouldn't stay more than two nights. I went to BB in the DR a few years ago and was expecting a similar atmosphere but the place is run down, my rooms (more expensive) were nice. Monday night first night there was one girl. Second night was on Saturday more girls some were super hot ended up taking one Christina out to a club in Las Palmas she recommended vs going Parque Ilares or Provenza it was bootle service required which pissed me off but still had a fun night and she was freaky, and I would recommend. I talked to another girl there Camila from Spain very cute but she would not budge from 300 COP and no BBBJ and no kissing so I said fuck that. They have a bar by the pool with limited drinks only open to 6 and the bar downstairs music is super loud and the drinks were expensive. The average age there is definitely older, I'm late 30's. Pablado is also super expensive the only pro is that some of the ATM's you can pull out up to 2,000,000 COP at a time vs in Laureles where I was most of my time was only 600,000 and they charge you 24,000 COP plus the $5 my bank charges me so it adds up. I think most of the Manison girls will start at 300 Mil and most won't budge, but YMMV. Mateo one of the guys helping at the front desk is awesome but the management was a bit weird. A guy I met during my stay and after I checked out was having a day time party during the week I asked if I could come by I didn't mind paying a cover and would buy drinks from the bar they said no. Overall I give the place 2. 5/5.
The rest of the time I stayed in an AirBNB in Laurels. Was a bit frustrating to find a place as so many places say no sex tourism under their rules. This place was super strict with their guest rules only one guest at time if you had a one bedroom more if you had a 2 bedroom and I mean really strict which is good and bad. Laurels was super chill, lots of remote workers' cafes, restaurants etc walking distance to the 70 which has lots of bars and restaurants but is quiet enough to sleep. An ISG member I met said most places say no guests but don't really enforce the rules. One can always check by messaging the owner. The only issue I had in Laurles was all the ATM's I could find let you take out 600 K at a time and with fees it adds up.
Action.
I spread my time between Casas, FB Girls, Girls Off Escort Sites, and one SW in Centro.
I went to Centro almost every day, I'm as gringo looking as you get so I was worried I would stick out like a penguin in the desert but I never had an issue. I would take an Uber to Nutibara hotel and walk to the plaza and Carrea 53 which is where the majority of the SW's are. Yes there is alot of sketchy people but lots of police and normal tourists as well. Honestly I felt more sketch walking around Tenderloin district in SF. I would go every day mostly walk around, people watch or meet up with a fellow ISG have a coffee or beer. I would go into the local bars on 53 where I was the only gringo and was treated no different then a local. I had my cash in a money belt and only what I needed, no watch and a phone I didn't mind losing. I also had a fake wallet with old gift cards which if I was robbed I had no issue handing over. Again this was never an issue although I met an ISG that was robbed a year earlier in Centro. Someone stopped asked for the time he took out his phone to check and they just grabbed the phone. My advice is just to ignore people. There were a few hot SW's some really young petite spinners although one has to be careful always ask for ID to be sure if they look young. There are a few ST hotels nearby the plaza and on 53. You do enough loops you will see quickly where they are. I only tried one SW and didn't love the experience was poor service and the room was shit. 30 minutes will run you 30-60 mil COP to 10-20 for the room. Unless you speak good Spanish and get one of the few hotties that you can chat beforehand to go over expectations I would say for the price you are better off going to a CASA. But still, I would take some of the precautions I outlined and at go atleast once to check it out. People make Centro out to be much worse than it actually is.
I went to two strip clubs in Centro but they were dark, noisy and same prices as CASA's I didn't partake.
CASA's.
Zandaly was number 1 for the number of hot girls. I tried Andrea, Laura, Daneila (girl next door cutie) and Charlotte who I noticed flow state reviewed. She is a well-built Vene but was the only one who asked for a tip which for not doing anything spectacular compared to the other girls did not go over well. Rooms are small but clean. Laura does A+ as an extra which I really wanted to try but could not line her up for a second go. 65 mil for half hour BBBJ usually 30-40 mil extra but never opted for that in CASA too much traffic.
Sexy Amigas was number 2 - some cute girls, nicer rooms than Zandaly. Had one firecracker who forgot her name didn't charge extra for BBBJ, not the best looking but I usually don't go for the best lookers as I find the service is not the best and a darker skinned chica that was decent. 60 or 65 for half an hour.
New Life was number 3. Went on a Sunday and all other places were closed. Was terrible. Place looked like a prison compared to the other two. I snagged the only decent girl before a big group of Americans came in. The others were terrible. I can't recommend this place.
I wanted to try Ellas Erotica, especially Mia Silver but it is by appointment only and not the best at responding to WhatsApp.
The CASA's I found was good for a quick inexpensive release but was nothing memorable.
FB Girls. The Bad.
I tried building my own Rolodex through a fake account but ended up getting contacts through other ISG members. Some contacts I got from two different sources which means they are well known and mostly cater to gringos.
Estefina. Last 4 digits phone 4749. Avoid super rushed terrible service.
Naani -Unfortunately deleted her number, Was recommended by a fellow ISG but my experience was poor. Rushed not great service. Not that great looking IMp.
Laura Bustamante. Recommended through ISG and the website chicca check. She speaks English and does tours. Communa 13 and horse riding. I wanted to take a break from the action so I contacted her to do a horse tour. She said 150 k including transport from back to my place. She asked me if I wanted her to join and I said yes isn't that the whole point of having a guide? What she failed to tell me after we have done the ride was that I had to pay her portion of the ride which she said was 150 K which was way too much for the shit ride we did on the streets in Coccacobbana. I questioned her how she charges me 150 including transportation it was an 40 min-1 hour car ride each way in traffic.
In addition when we stopped midway through the ride at some restaurant. She asked if I wanted some food and a drink I said I wasn't to hungry I would be happy with some fries. She ended up ordering a whole bunch of food and drinks as I went ot the bathroom which I had to pay came out to 250 mil. I was pretty mad and should of left it there but being horny I invited her back for a massage after she dropped me off. I would admit she had a cute light skinned face, but after getting undressed her body was fat and she had a strange smell down there. The next day I messaged her saying that her ordering a bunch of food and drinks without my consent and then pulling that shit with the fees to cover her portion was not cool. She came back with some shit in 10 years of doing this no other guys ever had a problem covering her food drinks etc. I have no problem doing that if I invite a chica for dinner and there is the intention of some fun afterwards but for a tour which I'm paying her for I find that bullshit. The english speaking taxi driver who showed me around I had no problem buying lunch for but to expect I am your ATM without my consent go fuck yourself. This was a general observation I had with all girls down there is that you are easy money and they will take advantage of you especially if you don't speak Spanish.
FB Girls The Good.
Sofia # 1859 - Passed on to be by El Papi I saw her on my first night. Very cute, nice body with larger not huge natural tits loves to smoke weed she got me a vape pen which came in very handy for discreet smoking. The sex was nothing amazing but good and I would recommend her. Damage was 250 plus 100 for the vape and battery.
Lexi # 9379 - Does massages out of a place with other chicas near the University in Laurles. Charges 80 K extra for FS which I didn't pay but the massage includes BBBJ and some very sensual rubbing with the pussy and felt this was more than enough to enjoy my session. She will also do rimming if you ask and are clean. I told another ISG about her and he had a good time.
Elly. She's from Cartagena but as in MDE for a few days and her contact was passed on to me by El Papi. I could tell from the photos she had a bit of meat on her and I left her to the last night. My regular feel trough and I was in a bit of a pinch as I couldn; t find anyone else and didn't want to end my last night in Colombia on the shit note. I regret not trying her earlier. Again body wasn't the best but the service was top notch, stayed past the hour although YMMV we seemed to gel very well and she speaks English. She said I can share her contact info which I can do you you DM me and you are an active contributor on the page.
Online.
Cristal-.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/cristal-linda-y-pacionada-ardiente-una-diablita/22657056/
She operates out of place from Laurles not far from where I was staying. Super bubbly attitude, very PSE A+ plus DT for extra. Wish I had time to do her more thane once.
Natalie-.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/deliciosa-arrech-esperandote-en-mi-apartamento-desnuda-o-en-lenceria-coml-quuera/22573064
I came across her browsing the escort site and her ad said she does swinger clubs which was something I always wanted to try. What a disaster. She was more than hour late, looked nothing like her pictures, fat with lots of acne was half drunk and did a bunch of Tussi in front of me. Was disappointed as I was really looking forward to hitting up the Swingers club but not with that dumpster fire.
Other Non-Mongering Activities.
Mongering in MDE was probably my secondary purpose ha ha lies but I like to balance my trips with a little bit of adventure. I did a 5 day trip with Colombia Moto Adventures which was awesome and probably the highlight of my trip. Its not cheap but I really had a great time and got to see some off the beaten path parts of Colombia where you don't see any other tourists. I also tried paragliding with Ruben flies although there are a few outfits that do this out of MDE they were very safe and had a good instructor that spoke english.
Summary.
I have been to the DR in 2014, the Philippines in 2017, Asia 2020 and 2022. Each have its pros and cons. I found in Asia it's easier cheaper to find someone for LT for cheaper BBBJ of uncovered FS if you want was easier to find, Asian girls will also take care of you I found, the girls in Colombia are way hotter but they will try and milk you and knowing Spanish will make your experience way better and feel like get taken advantage alot less. My Spanish was so-so. If you find a good Colombian chick though the sex is amazing and they definitely love sex, but it's harder to find that gem. Always negotiate, a few girls would quote 300 k then I would just ignore them and they quickly drop down to 200 k, as they all love money, but what they don't realize is there soo many girls to be had even they dropped their price I tended to ignore them as I felt this was a precursor to shitty service or being a pro vs the girls that would accept 200 or 250.
A guy I met who comes to MDE regularly uses Seeking alot and had some real hotties but he also spends alot of time gathering those contacts which is not easy for your occasional visitor. Even though I witnessed a murder, I never really felt in danger in Colombia although I did run into a few people that got pick pocketed or robbed but for most part they were either drunk or not careful or didn't take basic precautions. Unless I improve my Spanish I would probably go back to Asia for my next trip altough its alot further from North America but Colombia is awesome, the people super nice and there is alot of fun stuff to do other then mongering. Each their own but I am glad I went and I look forward to visiting again just not sure when.
I apologize for my spelling and grammar typing this on my phone is not easy. Hopefully this post is useful to some visiting MDE for the first time.
Happy Mongering,
YM.
Disappointment on my last visit. The 8-10 girls had some stunners, and I picked one I felt like and paid the standard charge.
But in the room the girl tried to up charge for kissing, up charge for DATY and upcharge for dick sucking. Is that now the routine? Or just my bad luck in selection. ? I said no to her and got a standard fuck with a rubber. Nothing exciting to make me want to go back there.
ColombiaLover
02-23-23, 23:07
Note to new guys. White taxi from Rio Negro to Laureles is 100 mil. Return trip should only be 85 mil. It's not much difference in dollars, but it's the principle to me. That some of these guys try to rip us off. I still remember when a yellow taxi tried to charge md 50 mil from Laureles to Lleras, a ride that is normally about 15 - 16 mil. Told him to fuck off and three him a 20. Asshole. It's bad enough that the taxi out of Lleras try to rip you off, but even worse when a taxi to Lleras tries to rip you off. Geez. Make sure the meter is running!
This was my first time in Colombia.
Arriving into the Country.
Taxi from MDE using the tunnel to the Mansion where I stayed was 110 COP although I found through one of my Uber trips an awesome driver that speaks English (spent 10 years in New York) he charged me 100 mil on the way back for my departure back home. I hired him to take me around some of the Barrios as this was something I wanted to see but didn't necessarily feel comfortable going alone. He is an awesome guy and I am more than happy to share his contact details.
This was my first time in Colombia.
Even though I witnessed a murder, I never really felt in danger in Colombia although I did run into a few people that got pick pocketed or robbed but for most part they were either drunk or not careful or didn't take basic precautions.
Happy Mongering,
YM.Good report, interested in details about the murder you witnessed.
This was my first time in Colombia.
Arriving into the Country.
Flew into Bogota then connected to Medellin with a two-hour lay over. I was asked for my Covide vaccine proof in the queue for customs. Money exchange rates were slightly better in Bogota Airport 1 USD = 4,300 or 4,400 COP if I recall vs 4,000 or 4,100 COP in Medelin Airport. There was a store as you exit arrivals in Bogata that was selling local SIMS but it was outrageous in price. I was able to get a SIM in MDE on the departures level from a little convenience-type store. I did get a message after a week saying my phone wasn't registered and it would be locked if I didn't register it soon, but since I only had two weeks in the country I didn't bother looking into this further.
Taxi from MDE using the tunnel to the Mansion where I stayed was 110 COP although I found through one of my Uber trips an awesome driver that speaks English (spent 10 years in New York) he charged me 100 mil on the way back for my departure back home. I hired him to take me around some of the Barrios as this was something I wanted to see but didn't necessarily feel comfortable going alone. He is an awesome guy and I am more than happy to share his contact details.
Accommodations.Your phone is going to be bricked up when you come back.
Anthony2023
02-24-23, 00:07
This was my first time in Colombia.
Even though I witnessed a murder, I never really felt in danger in Colombia although I did run into a few people that got pick pocketed or robbed but for most part they were either drunk or not careful or didn't take basic precautions. Unless I improve my Spanish I would probably go back to Asia for my next trip altough its alot further from North America but Colombia is awesome, the people super nice and there is alot of fun stuff to do other then mongering. Each their own but I am glad I went and I look forward to visiting again just not sure when.
YM.Damn my guy, you definitely ventured into the budget side of mongering, not surprised you ran into a few let downs. Exactly what I was trying to avoid for my first trip.
But it's good you were still able to have a good time.
One thing for sure is if money is not an issue it's kind of impossible not to have a good time in Colombia. For my next trip I'm still not interested in visiting centro but will check out maybe ellas erotic or loutron. Fb girls can be hit or miss so it's best to pick out club girls. I got lucky with a finding a gem on ig for a few days but took up too much of my time so I'll try to avoid that.
I'm Hispanic so knowing Spanish makes things definitively easier. But you even witnessed a murder? Wtf where were you at? Tell us more about that.
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This was my first time in Colombia.
Arriving into the Country.
Flew into Bogota then connected to Medellin with a two-hour lay over. I was asked for my Covide vaccine proof in the queue for customs. Money exchange rates were slightly better in Bogota Airport 1 USD = 4,300 or 4,400 COP if I recall vs 4,000 or 4,100 COP in Medelin Airport. There was a store as you exit arrivals in Bogata that was selling local SIMS but it was outrageous in price. I was able to get a SIM in MDE on the departures level from a little convenience-type store. I did get a message after a week saying my phone wasn't registered and it would be locked if I didn't register it soon, but since I only had two weeks in the country I didn't bother looking into this further.
Taxi from MDE using the tunnel to the Mansion where I stayed was 110 COP although I found through one of my Uber trips an awesome driver that speaks English (spent 10 years in New York) he charged me 100 mil on the way back for my departure back home. I hired him to take me around some of the Barrios as this was something I wanted to see but didn't necessarily feel comfortable going alone. He is an awesome guy and I am more than happy to share his contact details.
Accommodations.
I spent two nights in the Mansion as it was my first time in the country. I wouldn't stay more than two nights. I went to BB in the DR a few years ago and was expecting a similar atmosphere but the place is run down, my rooms (more expensive) were nice. Monday night first night there was one girl. Second night was on Saturday more girls some were super hot ended up taking one Christina out to a club in Las Palmas she recommended vs going Parque Ilares or Provenza it was bootle service required which pissed me off but still had a fun night and she was freaky, and I would recommend. I talked to another girl there Camila from Spain very cute but she would not budge from 300 COP and no BBBJ and no kissing so I said fuck that. They have a bar by the pool with limited drinks only open to 6 and the bar downstairs music is super loud and the drinks were expensive. The average age there is definitely older, I'm late 30's. Pablado is also super expensive the only pro is that some of the ATM's you can pull out up to 2,000,000 COP at a time vs in Laureles where I was most of my time was only 600,000 and they charge you 24,000 COP plus the $5 my bank charges me so it adds up. I think most of the Manison girls will start at 300 Mil and most won't budge, but YMMV. Mateo one of the guys helping at the front desk is awesome but the management was a bit weird. A guy I met during my stay and after I checked out was having a day time party during the week I asked if I could come by I didn't mind paying a cover and would buy drinks from the bar they said no. Overall I give the place 2. 5/5.
The rest of the time I stayed in an AirBNB in Laurels. Was a bit frustrating to find a place as so many places say no sex tourism under their rules. This place was super strict with their guest rules only one guest at time if you had a one bedroom more if you had a 2 bedroom and I mean really strict which is good and bad. Laurels was super chill, lots of remote workers' cafes, restaurants etc walking distance to the 70 which has lots of bars and restaurants but is quiet enough to sleep. An ISG member I met said most places say no guests but don't really enforce the rules. One can always check by messaging the owner. The only issue I had in Laurles was all the ATM's I could find let you take out 600 K at a time and with fees it adds up.
Action.
I spread my time between Casas, FB Girls, Girls Off Escort Sites, and one SW in Centro.
I went to Centro almost every day, I'm as gringo looking as you get so I was worried I would stick out like a penguin in the desert but I never had an issue. I would take an Uber to Nutibara hotel and walk to the plaza and Carrea 53 which is where the majority of the SW's are. Yes there is alot of sketchy people but lots of police and normal tourists as well. Honestly I felt more sketch walking around Tenderloin district in SF. I would go every day mostly walk around, people watch or meet up with a fellow ISG have a coffee or beer. I would go into the local bars on 53 where I was the only gringo and was treated no different then a local. I had my cash in a money belt and only what I needed, no watch and a phone I didn't mind losing. I also had a fake wallet with old gift cards which if I was robbed I had no issue handing over. Again this was never an issue although I met an ISG that was robbed a year earlier in Centro. Someone stopped asked for the time he took out his phone to check and they just grabbed the phone. My advice is just to ignore people. There were a few hot SW's some really young petite spinners although one has to be careful always ask for ID to be sure if they look young. There are a few ST hotels nearby the plaza and on 53. You do enough loops you will see quickly where they are. I only tried one SW and didn't love the experience was poor service and the room was shit. 30 minutes will run you 30-60 mil COP to 10-20 for the room. Unless you speak good Spanish and get one of the few hotties that you can chat beforehand to go over expectations I would say for the price you are better off going to a CASA. But still, I would take some of the precautions I outlined and at go atleast once to check it out. People make Centro out to be much worse than it actually is.
I went to two strip clubs in Centro but they were dark, noisy and same prices as CASA's I didn't partake.
CASA's.
Zandaly was number 1 for the number of hot girls. I tried Andrea, Laura, Daneila (girl next door cutie) and Charlotte who I noticed flow state reviewed. She is a well-built Vene but was the only one who asked for a tip which for not doing anything spectacular compared to the other girls did not go over well. Rooms are small but clean. Laura does A+ as an extra which I really wanted to try but could not line her up for a second go. 65 mil for half hour BBBJ usually 30-40 mil extra but never opted for that in CASA too much traffic.
Sexy Amigas was number 2 - some cute girls, nicer rooms than Zandaly. Had one firecracker who forgot her name didn't charge extra for BBBJ, not the best looking but I usually don't go for the best lookers as I find the service is not the best and a darker skinned chica that was decent. 60 or 65 for half an hour.
New Life was number 3. Went on a Sunday and all other places were closed. Was terrible. Place looked like a prison compared to the other two. I snagged the only decent girl before a big group of Americans came in. The others were terrible. I can't recommend this place.
I wanted to try Ellas Erotica, especially Mia Silver but it is by appointment only and not the best at responding to WhatsApp.
The CASA's I found was good for a quick inexpensive release but was nothing memorable.
FB Girls. The Bad.
I tried building my own Rolodex through a fake account but ended up getting contacts through other ISG members. Some contacts I got from two different sources which means they are well known and mostly cater to gringos.
Estefina. Last 4 digits phone 4749. Avoid super rushed terrible service.
Naani -Unfortunately deleted her number, Was recommended by a fellow ISG but my experience was poor. Rushed not great service. Not that great looking IMp.
Laura Bustamante. Recommended through ISG and the website chicca check. She speaks English and does tours. Communa 13 and horse riding. I wanted to take a break from the action so I contacted her to do a horse tour. She said 150 k including transport from back to my place. She asked me if I wanted her to join and I said yes isn't that the whole point of having a guide? What she failed to tell me after we have done the ride was that I had to pay her portion of the ride which she said was 150 K which was way too much for the shit ride we did on the streets in Coccacobbana. I questioned her how she charges me 150 including transportation it was an 40 min-1 hour car ride each way in traffic.
In addition when we stopped midway through the ride at some restaurant. She asked if I wanted some food and a drink I said I wasn't to hungry I would be happy with some fries. She ended up ordering a whole bunch of food and drinks as I went ot the bathroom which I had to pay came out to 250 mil. I was pretty mad and should of left it there but being horny I invited her back for a massage after she dropped me off. I would admit she had a cute light skinned face, but after getting undressed her body was fat and she had a strange smell down there. The next day I messaged her saying that her ordering a bunch of food and drinks without my consent and then pulling that shit with the fees to cover her portion was not cool. She came back with some shit in 10 years of doing this no other guys ever had a problem covering her food drinks etc. I have no problem doing that if I invite a chica for dinner and there is the intention of some fun afterwards but for a tour which I'm paying her for I find that bullshit. The english speaking taxi driver who showed me around I had no problem buying lunch for but to expect I am your ATM without my consent go fuck yourself. This was a general observation I had with all girls down there is that you are easy money and they will take advantage of you especially if you don't speak Spanish.
FB Girls The Good.
Sofia # 1859 - Passed on to be by El Papi I saw her on my first night. Very cute, nice body with larger not huge natural tits loves to smoke weed she got me a vape pen which came in very handy for discreet smoking. The sex was nothing amazing but good and I would recommend her. Damage was 250 plus 100 for the vape and battery.
Lexi # 9379 - Does massages out of a place with other chicas near the University in Laurles. Charges 80 K extra for FS which I didn't pay but the massage includes BBBJ and some very sensual rubbing with the pussy and felt this was more than enough to enjoy my session. She will also do rimming if you ask and are clean. I told another ISG about her and he had a good time.
Elly. She's from Cartagena but as in MDE for a few days and her contact was passed on to me by El Papi. I could tell from the photos she had a bit of meat on her and I left her to the last night. My regular feel trough and I was in a bit of a pinch as I couldn; t find anyone else and didn't want to end my last night in Colombia on the shit note. I regret not trying her earlier. Again body wasn't the best but the service was top notch, stayed past the hour although YMMV we seemed to gel very well and she speaks English. She said I can share her contact info which I can do you you DM me and you are an active contributor on the page.
Online.
Cristal-.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/cristal-linda-y-pacionada-ardiente-una-diablita/22657056/
She operates out of place from Laurles not far from where I was staying. Super bubbly attitude, very PSE A+ plus DT for extra. Wish I had time to do her more thane once.
Natalie-.
https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/deliciosa-arrech-esperandote-en-mi-apartamento-desnuda-o-en-lenceria-coml-quuera/22573064
I came across her browsing the escort site and her ad said she does swinger clubs which was something I always wanted to try. What a disaster. She was more than hour late, looked nothing like her pictures, fat with lots of acne was half drunk and did a bunch of Tussi in front of me. Was disappointed as I was really looking forward to hitting up the Swingers club but not with that dumpster fire.
Other Non-Mongering Activities.
Mongering in MDE was probably my secondary purpose ha ha lies but I like to balance my trips with a little bit of adventure. I did a 5 day trip with Colombia Moto Adventures which was awesome and probably the highlight of my trip. Its not cheap but I really had a great time and got to see some off the beaten path parts of Colombia where you don't see any other tourists. I also tried paragliding with Ruben flies although there are a few outfits that do this out of MDE they were very safe and had a good instructor that spoke english.
Summary.
I have been to the DR in 2014, the Philippines in 2017, Asia 2020 and 2022. Each have its pros and cons. I found in Asia it's easier cheaper to find someone for LT for cheaper BBBJ of uncovered FS if you want was easier to find, Asian girls will also take care of you I found, the girls in Colombia are way hotter but they will try and milk you and knowing Spanish will make your experience way better and feel like get taken advantage alot less. My Spanish was so-so. If you find a good Colombian chick though the sex is amazing and they definitely love sex, but it's harder to find that gem. Always negotiate, a few girls would quote 300 k then I would just ignore them and they quickly drop down to 200 k, as they all love money, but what they don't realize is there soo many girls to be had even they dropped their price I tended to ignore them as I felt this was a precursor to shitty service or being a pro vs the girls that would accept 200 or 250.
A guy I met who comes to MDE regularly uses Seeking alot and had some real hotties but he also spends alot of time gathering those contacts which is not easy for your occasional visitor. Even though I witnessed a murder, I never really felt in danger in Colombia although I did run into a few people that got pick pocketed or robbed but for most part they were either drunk or not careful or didn't take basic precautions. Unless I improve my Spanish I would probably go back to Asia for my next trip altough its alot further from North America but Colombia is awesome, the people super nice and there is alot of fun stuff to do other then mongering. Each their own but I am glad I went and I look forward to visiting again just not sure when.
I apologize for my spelling and grammar typing this on my phone is not easy. Hopefully this post is useful to some visiting MDE for the first time.
Happy Mongering,
YM.Great report bro. Thank you and happy to help. At least someone post reviews. Lately most folks have been talking about robbing and other stuff which is good to share but not to scare people. I am glad you enjoyed Elly and Sofia. Elly is special and a very sweet girl. As you mention it's not the look always but more about the attitude and top notch service. I will be in medellin March 9 and already lined up the girls and few repeat.
Never heard of it. Anyone know of it?
As far as Barra Exitiva. Plenty of 8's in there for around 100 K. Really for the money the best bet. One thing to keep in mind. For the most part you have to make the first move.It's over by the airport, the one in Medellin, not the one in Rionegro. The one report I've seen on it wasn't promising at all.
Disappointment on my last visit. ...The upcharge has been reported at least one time recently. It wasn't better than a few years ago when the girl may just say no to extra service. Look on the bright side, at least now it is offered.
Great report bro. Thank you and happy to help. At least someone post reviews. Lately most folks have been talking about robbing and other stuff which is good to share but not to scare people. I am glad you enjoyed Elly and Sofia. Elly is special and a very sweet girl. As you mention it's not the look always but more about the attitude and top notch service. I will be in medellin March 9 and already lined up the girls and few repeat.Yes, it was a nice report. I would like to underscore how important masks and proof of vaccinations. At LAX, I was required by Avianca to wear a mask on the flight. They also wanted my vaccination history well beyond my most recent shot. I don't know if other carriers are requiring the same. I see a lot people wearing masks.
Disappointment on my last visit. The 8-10 girls had some stunners, and I picked one I felt like and paid the standard charge.
But in the room the girl tried to up charge for kissing, up charge for DATY and upcharge for dick sucking. Is that now the routine? Or just my bad luck in selection. ? I said no to her and got a standard fuck with a rubber. Nothing exciting to make me want to go back there.I have always found Loutrons to have the hottest girls of any casa in Medellin except for Abydos which unfortunately is no more and from all accounts was owned by the same person. In all my visits to Loutrons, the last of which I think was 2018, I was never upsold for any services, However, I don't think I ever got BBBJ there inclusive but CBJ was definitely available. I hope this upcharge for kissing and DATY is not a new requirement.
Parasitius
02-24-23, 16:54
Where exactly in Facebook do you find these girls?If they have a facebook account and they look hot with some pictures that suggest they're not a virgin AND they're in Medellin AND they're not the wife of some rich guy or some other super obvious thing (a nun) that eliminates them from needing or wanting money at all, then, you can ask them to meet. It's not a magic special super secret group of facebook girls guys.
Colombian airlines require masks on national flights. Sometimes I am asked to wear one to board, sometimes not. I never wear one during the flights but most passengers do. I don't know why Colombia is holding on to a mask mandate after most other countries left them behind. It seems the country likes to go its own way on matters of public health. They still require a yellow fever vaccine for people who arrive direct from Brazil. Go figure.
Yes, it was a nice report. I would like to underscore how important masks and proof of vaccinations. At LAX, I was required by Avianca to wear a mask on the flight. They also wanted my vaccination history well beyond my most recent shot. I don't know if other carriers are requiring the same. I see a lot people wearing masks.
If they have a facebook account and they look hot with some pictures that suggest they're not a virgin AND they're in Medellin AND they're not the wife of some rich guy or some other super obvious thing (a nun) that eliminates them from needing or wanting money at all, then, you can ask them to meet. It's not a magic special super secret group of facebook girls guys.I agree. Facebook is not like Seeking or Tinder. People in Colombia use FB like Americans do, to set up a personal profile for friends and family. The big difference is that some of the girls in Medellin are open to having sex with gringos to make some extra money. A number of these girls are not full time escorts but just open to it when they need the money. You just need to find young attractive women located in Medellin and make friend requests. From there, you mine their friends for more women. There are also nightclubs in Medellin where you can find friends there and just ask to be their friend. There are many ways to discover and find women located in Medellin. You just need to make the effort and spend some time doing it.
If this is too much trouble and you don't want to do it, you don't have to. There are strip clubs, casas, nightclubs and streetwalkers for immediate meetings. But if you are only wiling to spend a little time on Facebook, it probably won't be that successful. If you have willing to make the effort and keep at it, it can be a goldmine for young attractive women willing to have GFE sex with you for a reasonable price.
OK made my first trip to Medellin at the end of January. Had help with a few members prior to arriving on trying to establish FB contacts. Set up a side account and started adding as much as I could. Thanks to Humpty and Jim for some contacts to get me started. I don't speak much Spanish at all but have taken up duolingo and try to spend 15 minutes everyday. I know I will slowly get better as time goes on. Looking at reviews and recommendations I wanted a good safe place to stay. Usually when traveling I need good wifi and Aircon. So I decided to stay at Energy for the security and location. When I travel I mainly traveling to experience the culture, activities, and tourist stuff (just want some company while abroad) I've learned to scuba in Thailand and that's been my last 3 trips. This trip I had a few motorcycle tours.
So arrived on Wednesday and took a taxi to Energy. Used the ATM when I got out of customs, seems everyone is hitting that ATM which is right there. Took out some money right away to make sure I had local currency. Seems 6 mil is the max the most I observed the atms will dish out. (About $125 usd) So made it to Energy living and doorman / security has the key to my Airbnb. I get in and settle in as it's late afternoon, I try to notify some of the women I'm arriving as I had no specific dates set up yet. I also checked up on the tours I set up.
I had An E bike city tour the next day Thursday, Motorcycle tour to Guatape on Friday and then dirt bike tour Monday. Well apparently the group Guatape tour I never paid for or finalized. So for that day they had a Motorcycle I could rent and I used google maps to get there myself. A bit of a drive but was a good trip (you get routed thru a dirt area you need to take for some reason, not sure why, maybe a short cut not sure).
So the E bike tour was great. When in a big city I always see if the e bike tours available. You get to see so much and cover quite a good amount of area without being exhausted. Gives you an idea of the layout of the city and the guide gives you a lot of recommendations.
Later that night I meet up with.
Dahiana Crespedes.
Really great body (enhanced) but in general not knowing Spanish I don't think one will have as good as a time just in my opinion. Yes I used translator but not quite the same. It was good service GFE. Very nice body.
The next girl I saw was Nanii Columbia.
She speaks a little English and I took her to dinner. After that wanted to go to a club and hear some music. WE traveled by Uber to not sure where it was but I couldn't find an ATM (many ATMs and places that have ATMs are closed up at night) I didn't have any pesos on me and cautious just using my card for everything. So we end up bailing back to the Airbnb. Had a good time with her also GFE.
So I've been around a long time in general and pretty smart but yeah I got taken for some money. All my fault, funny something I would never do at home but oh well it is what it is. The first one Manuela Bernal. On facebook.
She uses a driver to collect part of the full amount and says she arrives after to make sure (her safety). I think I gave the guy 1 mil. $25 usd I think. Even took a picture of his drivers license and plate number. Oh course she never shows up. Says she was robbed blah blah blah. My fault. I think a red flag with this one on FB she post videos and pics but you can't comment on her page or any of her post.
Estefa Morales.
Next one I meet on fb also and actually talked with her quite awhile. We set up a later day to meet (Sunday) as I had other stuff lined up and she gave me the whole story blah blah. So gave her money up front again way of much. And of course the day comes and she never shows up. She gets a mouth full of text of my thoughts. I actually meet her in person when I gave the money to her the day before. Again my fault. Southing I would usually never do. The money I lost between the 2 girls I'm not crying over and oh well money lost. Lesson learned. She has changed her number but still text me. I told her I fell sorry for her situation (saying he Mom died, who knows) I told her hey I forgive her, she stills text me still but I've told her if she mentions money I will just block her.
I got to see this one at her place. Cristal.
Cristal Forums Photoprepagos. (enhanced).
She was fun, mirrored wall and small shower to use. Clean good place She ordered my uber on my way out, she again was fun and very engaging. I think she had someone coming in right after me. (Side note some of the smaller rear doors on their cars have are squarish. I ended up opening a rear door took one to the middle of the forehead. (the Uber driver keep pointing at my forehead) he took me to a pharmacy because it was bleeding pretty good. I cleaned it up and bandaid over it. After that got dropped off in El Centro area just to walk around and maybe shop. After a few hours of shopping, there is still blood seeping thru the bandaid. At that point I knew I need stitches. So there was a hospital close to El Centro and went there (3 hour tour) LOL. Only $25 later and 3 stitches. Back to my hotel after that.
I see a girl named ISA, she doesn't have FB. And was referred to by a member Jimmy. She was fun but in the middle of things looks like her period came on with a small amount of blood on the bag. So let her know, she jumped up and went to the bathroom after we finished. She apologized and was on her way not too long after. She tried to ask to come by the next day and I reminded her about her period but was going to recommend her friend but she wasn't GFE. So pass.
Stefina was referred to me from again a member, She doesn't have facebook. Very petite cute girl. All natural and small chest. She was very cute and easy going. She smoked a bit on the balcony (I don't). Kinda shy but all and all fun and GFE. She was suppose to arrived by a certain time as I wanted to use the Jacuzzi on the top of the hotel but the time she arrived it was closed 10 pm.
Was suppose to meet a girl the morning I was leaving her name is Maria (another recommended lady), She showed up but only had a picture of her I. The on the phone Energy won't allow that, She apologized so I was scrambling last minute as I had to check out in 2 hours. I had been talking with Lexi a massage lady that was mentioned in the reviews and she was able to come over last minute. She does nuru type of massage very sensual massage. She looks younger in her pics but I she was still good looking, probably in her 30's. The sensual part was really good and had a good time right before I needed to be out the door.
So all in all a good time. Rappi keep having issues finding Energy and a few times orders got canceled. I used the restaurant at Airbnb and man the T-bone steak was awesome. Probably 1 lb, $70 but well worth it. I got a deep tissue massage at Medellin sports massage which was really good. I almost tapped out, they seem pretty busy with appointments but seem to do really good. I never got a chance to book them again but wanted to.
Also the dirt biking was a killer but a bit too much 8 hours of true dirt biking in the mountains. (Never dirt bike before, just street bike). If I had to do it again, maybe half amount of time and the up hill was. A learning curve. I fell a lot and yeah my knee is still recovering (not used to putting my foot down, different with street bikes). Didn't make it to any Casas and I'm not into street game. I like the comforts in my own place. Had a few members numbers that were also there the same time, just never got a chance to hang out with anyone. Next time will try to get out at night a bit more and experience the night life and the cases, clubs.
Sorry for the long post.
If they have a facebook account and they look hot with some pictures that suggest they're not a virgin AND they're in Medellin AND they're not the wife of some rich guy or some other super obvious thing (a nun) that eliminates them from needing or wanting money at all, then, you can ask them to meet. It's not a magic special super secret group of facebook girls guys.It's not a special, super, secret group of Facebook girls. However, it's a bit more restrictive than just some sexy photos. Colombian women dress sexy and they love their selfies. If you start messaging every sexy girl you find on Facebook in Medellin, there will probably be some issues.
It's more productive to follow the guides recently linked and start building from known prepagos.
And for today's batch of "How do you find girls on Facebook" guys, just read back and you'll find the information, or go directly to the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread and start reading.
You can friend and message random girls too. I just wouldn't be asking them how much for sex off the bat. Treat it just like "sliding into dms" here in the US. Say Hi, maybe compliment them and if they respond and are friendly go from there.
It's not a special, super, secret group of Facebook girls. However, it's a bit more restrictive than just some sexy photos. Colombian women dress sexy and they love their selfies. If you start messaging every sexy girl you find on Facebook in Medellin, there will probably be some issues.
It's more productive to follow the guides recently linked and start building from known prepagos.
And for today's batch of "How do you find girls on Facebook" guys, just read back and you'll find the information, or go directly to the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread and start reading.
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