Medellin Reports

[DownLow123]

Transaction fee is nothing to do with the exchange rate.

There are 3 components to the cost of using and ATM in a foreign country..
1. The fee that the ATM charges
2. The foreign withdrawal fee that your bank may or may not charge.
3. The exchange rate that is used for the transaction

Most of the time the biggest cost by far is the exchange rate used for the transaction. That will be determined by what sort of foreign exchange clearing process your bank uses. Most USA banks seem to use the VISA facility for this, if you use your debit card to withdraw money. And assuming your debit card is operated on the VISA network with your bank. And the cost there might be around 1% for US banks, or based on the previous day's VISA exchange rate...not sure. But if you are lucky or unlucky enough to have a Canadian bank it is a whole different process, usually. Anyway. Then for sure the exchange cost will be your largest cost in the process.

In my case if I withdraw cash from Davivienda
1. There is no ATM charge
2. My bank charges $5 per foreign transaction
3. My bank charges 2.5% compared to the mid market rate at the time you withdraw the cash. So on my typical $500 approximate withdrawal my currency exchange cost is $15.50, my home bank fee is $5.00, total $20.50. If I deal with a bank here in Colombia that charges an ATM fee that is over and above the $20.50Thanks for the info.


Is your pin over 4 digits? 2 years back they changed it so if your pin is over 4 digits it won't read it but will deducte it. I had a 6 digit pin I had to change to 4 in order to use here.Now that you mention it I believe it was. What a royal PIA that was. I'm contemplating re-trying Davivienda bank with the 4 digit pin.

[XXL]

In my case if I withdraw cash from Davivienda
1. There is no ATM charge
2. My bank charges $5 per foreign transaction
3. My bank charges 2.5% compared to the mid market rate at the time you withdraw the cash. So on my typical $500 approximate withdrawal my currency exchange cost is $15.50, my home bank fee is $5.00, total $20.50. If I deal with a bank here in Colombia that charges an ATM fee that is over and above the $20.50.

And the only way I will really know the cost of the currency exchange is to either just believe my bank, that it is 2.5%, or look at the rate I got and compare it to the published mid market rate on that day at that time of day. Which is hard to do. But I have done it and it does seem to correspond to what the bank says they charge, which is 2.5%Thanks for this heads-up. So Davivienda will give you 500 USD each time, not bad, I thought the limit was much lower. This would suggest if you live long-term in Colombia (and cannot often bring in loads of cash from abroad), the best strategy to spend your money is to use your foreign credit cards. Having a Colombian bank account to do SWIFT transfers is not a good idea as the bank will screw you on transfer fees + lousy exchange rate + ATM charges every time you use your colombian debit card.

By the way, can you use Master cards as well as Visa? I'm trying to devise a financial strategy for Colombia. Maybe simply flying in with 5 or 6 different credit cards is the simplest way, considering I may lose 1 credit card a month inside some ATM. Having replacement credit cards + PIN sent to Colombia being suicidal, they need to get sent back home where I can recover them three times a year.

[Fun Luvr]

Transaction fee is nothing to do with the exchange rate.No one said the transaction fee has anything to do with the exchange rate. You said you didn't see him say anything about the exchange rate he got. He stated the transaction fee was 18,500 which was equal to $4.19. How do you suppose he determined the USD amount of the transaction fee? He must have determined the exchange rate then divided it into 18,500 to get $4.19. Even if his bank showed the transaction fee as a separate entry, they would have had to know the COP amount and used the exchange rate to come up with $4.19. The Colombian banks who own the ATM's do not send USD amounts to the clearing houses, because they don't know what the USD amount is. That is determined by the clearing houses.

[LoveItHere69]

I checked "Decline banks exchange rate" and said the transaction was successful but did not spit any money at me. I'm not the only one, other people have been scammed a couple years ago by same bank. Careful of Davivienda bank.
I Around three years ago I declined the conversion rate and it said there was an error and kicked my card out. Happened at 3 different banks but only stole from me one of those times. Months later I tried a bank in another city and the same thing happened and it stole my money. I use Charles Schwab and my money was returned. I will never use that damn Davivienda ever again.

[Artvand1]

I have a friend that lives in MDE. He loves it. I believe he is retired.

The thing I can't get around in MDE is that where there is smoke there is fire. I've been doing pretty serious research on Scopalina and the dangers of MDE. I'm not gay, but I don't have anything against gay people whatsoever. The intel I received is that the gay pay for play scene in MDE is thriving and there is a huge scopalina risk for gay, affluent Gringos. Similar risk for affluent out of shape Gringos constantly looking to low ball chicas over $6. The Police in Colombia aren't all that respected by Colombians. Whatever you do don't count on them for anything. Check out the you tube videos of Americans that got scoped, overweight, out of shape, and effeminate seem to be common themes.

My Spanish tutor is from Bogota. She has told me that there is no safe place in Colombia, even for Colombians.

The Colombian chicas are flat out gorgeous. The Colombian men I've met in the US have told me that if a Colombian lady really loves you then they are surprisingly faithful. I juxtapose that with the Colombian men I met in MDE, they sure do seem to call ladies Putas, and they do it often.

I believe a suburb of SJ, CR would be a far safer place to be a digital nomad. Great weather, big CIA ops center, lots of retired CIA live there. The Switzerland of Central America.Nice to know Colombian women are considered faithful. And thanks so much for recommending SJ, Costa Rica. I will check it out for sure.

[Nounce]

.... I've been trying to find girls on FB but I haven't had any luck. ...You can find some tips in the Reports of Distinction thread.


I wish, bro.That is a facebook girl.

[Zeos1]

Thanks for this heads-up. So Davivienda will give you 500 USD each time, not bad, I thought the limit was much lower. This would suggest if you live long-term in Colombia (and cannot often bring in loads of cash from abroad), the best strategy to spend your money is to use your foreign credit cards. Having a Colombian bank account to do SWIFT transfers is not a good idea as the bank will screw you on transfer fees + lousy exchange rate + ATM charges every time you use your colombian debit card.

By the way, can you use Master cards as well as Visa? I'm trying to devise a financial strategy for Colombia. Maybe simply flying in with 5 or 6 different credit cards is the simplest way, considering I may lose 1 credit card a month inside some ATM. Having replacement credit cards + PIN sent to Colombia being suicidal, they need to get sent back home where I can recover them three times a year.Davivienda allows 2 million withdrawal, which for me in Canadian dollars is over $500, but in US dollars I'm not sure, may be a bit more or less. I just used that number as an example. And I was not talking about credit cards, I was talking about a debit card transaction. For me that is a separate card, but for Americans I'm not sure.

For sure it is best to decline the rate the ATM offers you. It usually offers a 6 or 7% cost which is higher than your own bank or your own bank's clearing house will end up passing on to you.

[DonCarlos1234]

Well of course it is possible to walk into a barbecue restaurant and pick out a couple of dishes to make up a vegetarian plate, but how many vegetarians are regularly walking into a meat house to get a vegetarian meal? If one wanted to find a needle it would make much more sense to go to the sewing aisle at Walmart than to look in a haystack.

Seeking is a haystack full of hookers. Who pays $100 to dig through hundreds of hookers in hopes of finding the 2 chicks that stumbled on the site by happenstance and are not there to sell pussy? There are not women signing up for the site that are not initially looking for what the site is advertising the same as no chick's first introduction to facebook was to sell pussy.SA has changed. I'm guessing maybe it's full of Ho's now (I know I left there with too many numbers, too many options, a year ago. And I questioned why I even posted about it here but then you & Elvis seem to be paying attention. And not all the girls I've found in Colombia were on SA. Just some of the best. They were difficult to let go.

[Turgid]

I have done it countless times in many of the casas. Never had a problem. Just do it discretely.It depends on the girl. Some girls have very strong ties with the management of the casa and they will tell if you ask to meet them outside. I once gave a tip to a girl at Zandaly and I saw her give it to the mamasan.

[MoonShot]

Tens of thousands of young men earning western wages staying in Medellin for the long term. I think that this is not bode well for mongers. Medellin already has increased numbers of men visiting. The promotion of the digital nomad Visa I think will eventually change Medellin for the worst and drive up prices. How can I not drive up prices when you have so many westerners coming earning Western wages needing to rent and looking for girls? That is my take on the digital nomad Visa.

[Elvis 2008]

My point in the grander scheme and in terms of the law of averages is that if you want a girlfriend look for a normal girl that is not p4 p. Seeking is not the best way to find that. There is nothing wrong with having a sugar baby if you know what you are getting into and know what you want. Can that relationship transform? Sure. His and other people's posts are proof. But, a site like Seeking is explicitly designed to link sugar daddys to babies. Now does Seeking magically have all the most attractive girls ever on it who would never open a personal Facebook or Instagram account? I don't think so.LOL. Like so many guys here, you are literally doing the sour grapes thing. Whatever preconceived notions you have of seeking, they go out the window when you meet the women. Most of the women I put in the hooker or never want to see them again category straight up. But there are a few that are in the possible sugar baby category, and a very few move up into the SB / GF category, and the women are judging me likewise.

But you have two things way wrong. Every guy I know who uses seeking has gotten tired of the hookers and is looking for better. They do not go on the site looking for love. With men, sex comes first and then love, and it is the opposite for women.

The second thing you have way wrong is that women do not go on the site because of its name. They go on it because their friends have, and their expectations are whatever their friends got: money, Iphone, husband ETC. Yes, there have been many women who have gotten their husbands from the site.

The less important thing is every guy I know who uses seeking knows there are the hooker types on the site. And sure why wouldn't the hooker types use seeking in addition to FB or IG? Yeah, I would not be shocked if there were an 80 or 90% overlap. However, what you do not see is the beautiful women who fucked me and expected no compensation. Heck, I had one girl I gave a few hundred bucks to try to give me the money back because she wanted to be my GF. I cannot tell you the top seeking girls do not use FB or IG, but I would be surprised if they did. They do not need to.

What you do not see that I do is a guy who has his big head trying not to be envious of what this guy Davv got and a little head that is envious, and you are trying to rationalize how your dick is feeling. I know when I was married, I had all the bullshit excuses about staying married that I am sure you have.

If you are really married, then you should be happy with what you got but obviously you are not and want better. The best you can get when you are married is a SB looking mostly for money, and it does not make much sense for you to have a SB or babies unless you are in Colombia. To get a quality GF, you would have to lie and lead her on. A woman is not going to open up to a married man as compared to when you are single. I have been in both spots. I know.

Obviously, your brain is winning the battle with your dick, and that is fine. It is only when your dick wins, and I am 99% sure it will eventually, that you should even look at seeking. So it is not for you and quit the nonsensical worrying about others. They have experience with the site, and you do not.

[Surfer500]

Tens of thousands of young men earning western wages staying in Medellin for the long term. I think that this is not bode well for mongers. Medellin already has increased numbers of men visiting. The promotion of the digital nomad Visa I think will eventually change Medellin for the worst and drive up prices. How can I not drive up prices when you have so many westerners coming earning Western wages needing to rent and looking for girls? That is my take on the digital nomad Visa.A different take for you on the digital nomads of which the government is estimating there will be about 45,000 of them issued in the next year and a half. I would estimate that maybe 1/2 of the Visas will go to women, and the other 1/2 say to men, some of which are gay. Of those men, a lot of them will be "non-mongers", being younger guys, so I see little impact on mongering prices, however as you mention, as Colombia develops tourism wise, especially Medellin, it will drive prices up for everything which is no surprise. And even with increased pricing that has been going on, the Country is still a bargain. Where can you get gasoline for around $ 2 USD, and get fucked for as low as $ 10 USD short of going to India or somewhere in Africa. I have noticed a logarithmic increase in tourism since the Pandemic in Medellin. Everything changes as your aware, but it's going on all over the World with prices going up everywhere, but Colombia is still at a fraction of pricing compared to other mongering venues. We can all complain about it, but there isn't much we can do about it.

[Davvv100]

Every guy I know who uses seeking has gotten tired of the hookers and is looking for better. They do not go on the site looking for love. With men, sex comes first and then love, and it is the opposite for women...I didn't want to quote the whole thing but great post.

[Nounce]

...But you have two things way wrong...By reading between the lines, I think what matters is the cost. If Seeking is free like Faecbook, would it make a difference? The distinction really is meaningless.

I think in your view there are two sides of Facebook, I think that is why you said top ones don't have facebook, but I think what you really are saying is that top one don't have a p4 p facebook account. That probably is something alone the line RC is looking at but he does not necessarily look for "top".

[Artvand1]

Tens of thousands of young men earning western wages staying in Medellin for the long term. I think that this is not bode well for mongers. Medellin already has increased numbers of men visiting. The promotion of the digital nomad Visa I think will eventually change Medellin for the worst and drive up prices. How can I not drive up prices when you have so many westerners coming earning Western wages needing to rent and looking for girls? That is my take on the digital nomad Visa.So true, so many of my friends in America are planning to get it and move there. I was also considering but many folks warned me of the crime rate in Colombia. I am still considering though.

[Artvand1]

If you are really married, then you should be happy with what you got but obviously you are not and want better. The best you can get when you are married is a SB looking mostly for money, and it does not make much sense for you to have a SB or babies unless you are in Colombia. To get a quality GF, you would have to lie and lead her on. A woman is not going to open up to a married man as compared to when you are single. I have been in both spots. I know.
.If marriage sucks, is it worth it to give everything up for a woman in Colombia. Asking for a friend. Well my marriage sucks and would do anything to get out LOL.

[Mr Enternational]

Whatever preconceived notions you have of seeking, they go out the window when you meet the women. Most of the women I put in the hooker or never want to see them again category straight up. But there are a few that are in the possible sugar baby category, and a very few move up into the SB / GF category, and the women are judging me likewise.Are you really going to do this? So what you are saying is that instead of giving the HOOKER 200,000 pesos whenever you meet up with her, you MOVE HER UP to sugar baby and give her 2,500,000 per month regardless. He said if you want a girlfriend, not if you want someone to financially take care of. This is worse than the guys making videos in Cartagena of how easy it is to get Colombian chicks; nevermind the chicks they are going around making videos of them exchanging numbers with are hookers. Are people really this delusional?

[Surfer500]

Davivienda charges no transaction fee. Any fees you encounter when using their ATMs are charged by the bank that issued your card. Always decline any conversion offers. It is no more complicated than that. There is no need to post photos. They will only confuse guys further.This kind of begs the question as to if they are not charging a transaction fee they must be adjusting the exchange rate they give you so they can be compensated. What would be interesting to know is what rate your actually getting compared to other banks but I don't know how you would get that information. What's nice about Davienda is you can withdraw 2,000,000 COP per transaction versus other banks that are typically 1,000,000 COP or less per transaction.

[DonMedellin]

A friend of mine made a newbie mistake by not bringing condoms to Colombia and now he is regretting for his life. He bought some local brand at an Exito but couldn't come in it. Do you guys know a good brand he can buy in Medellin?

I usually bring 32 x2 condoms to Colombia, but he missed me by a few weeks so I couldn't give him my surplus.

[Mtndew704]

Tens of thousands of young men earning western wages staying in Medellin for the long term. I think that this is not bode well for mongers. Medellin already has increased numbers of men visiting. The promotion of the digital nomad Visa I think will eventually change Medellin for the worst and drive up prices. How can I not drive up prices when you have so many westerners coming earning Western wages needing to rent and looking for girls? That is my take on the digital nomad Visa.It will drive up prices in certain parts of the city but Medellin as a whole will be fine imo.

[PigSavinBoy]

A friend of mine made a newbie mistake by not bringing condoms to Colombia and now he is regretting for his life. He bought some local brand at an Exito but couldn't come in it. Do you guys know a good brand he can buy in Medellin?

I usually bring 32 x2 condoms to Colombia, but he missed me by a few weeks so I couldn't give him my surplus.You can buy durex in most pharmacies or just order from rappi.

[Anthony2023]

All this talk with atms and fees is such a headache. Last time I used Davidienda and banco Colombia and I got charged like a total of $30 in fees for taking out money like 3-4 times. It seems like these days it's better off to just change money at one of the malls. I think that's what I plan to do for my next trip coming up. Forget the ATM.

[BlueChange]

Sorry this forum needs to get back to reviews. But here is a warning!

50 K Shannon to leave!

So I was talking to another one from SA. (The unofficial sponsor of BB) and this cute tiny one appeared.

We have been trying to link all week. I have say this girl is the king of lighing and filters.

I call her an Uber, it's waiting 12 minutes. She stop responding so I'm like "fuck it I'll get someone else".

And cancel the ride. 15 minutes later this girl tells me she is on her way in the taxi and asking me why I canceled it! Bbeeootcchhhh the time you took to respond I could have watched an entire marathon of Seinfeld.

Anyway now I got to go meet.

Her downstairs and pay cash.

Etc. She shows up like 40 min later and as soon as I saw her I wish I put her back into that fucking uber.

She has GIANT crate face ACNE that she covers up with about 8 lbs of makeup. The closer she got the more I could see neil armstrongs footprints. We reluclantly went up the elevator as I was trying to figure out what to say.

She uses my bathroom, comes back out. Ok not only is the face a mess but she is beyond thin, she has that malnursiehed thin look to her. Like she hasn't eaten since last year.

I just muster up. Sorry this isn't going to work. I give her 50 K to leave and then call her a taxi. It's PEAK and the fucking taxi are NOT picking up. I'm like fuck! I hand her another 50 K and leave and tell her to use that and just hail one.

This see*nt has the nerve to text me while I'm upstairs "can you call me another, because the taxi is soo expensive" I'm like "stupid bEETCH that is what the other 50 K is for! Fuck off".

Here is the bitches face that tricked me. Don't be fooled by Sharron, fuck off!

[JjBee62]

Tens of thousands of young men earning western wages staying in Medellin for the long term. I think that this is not bode well for mongers. Medellin already has increased numbers of men visiting. The promotion of the digital nomad Visa I think will eventually change Medellin for the worst and drive up prices. How can I not drive up prices when you have so many westerners coming earning Western wages needing to rent and looking for girls? That is my take on the digital nomad Visa.Drop that number from tens of thousands to several hundred, maybe 1 thousand.

In a city of over 4 million.

[Mr Enternational]

She has GIANT crate face ACNE that she covers up with about 8 lbs of makeup. The closer she got the more I could see neil armstrongs footprints. So why don't you ask for pictures without makeup? I do not like chicks with makeup so it is normal for me to ask.

[Knowledge]

Poblado and Laureles for the weekend warriors, plus Sabaneta and Envigado for longer term residents get by far the most gringo demand. The rest of the city is not as of much interest to foreigners. The pace of construction in gringo areas is definitely not keeping up with the recent demand so prices will continue to rise in those areas until either the demand slows or the pace of construction picks up.


It will drive up prices in certain parts of the city but Medellin as a whole will be fine imo.

[JustinFields]

Going to medellin for the first time.

Not really looking to make my trip all about the girls but I will partake in a little pay for play.

Where do you guys recommend I stay?

Should I take Uber or Taxi?

How dangerous is it?

Do all hotels not allow guests? Any friendly air bnb's or hotels that allow guests?

Thanks for your help and pm me if you want.

[Zeos1]

Tens of thousands of young men earning western wages staying in Medellin for the long term. I think that this is not bode well for mongers. Medellin already has increased numbers of men visiting. The promotion of the digital nomad Visa I think will eventually change Medellin for the worst and drive up prices. How can I not drive up prices when you have so many westerners coming earning Western wages needing to rent and looking for girls? That is my take on the digital nomad Visa.Tens of thousands. Dream on. The digital nomad visa will change nothing. Most of the digital nomads that are here do just fine without it.

[BlueChange]

Drop that number from tens of thousands to several hundred, maybe 1 thousand.

In a city of over 4 million.Facts, the GPD of tourism in Colombia in general is like less then 3%. There might be an uptick but it is NOT going to be like disneyland numbers or anything like that.

The big factor is the language for sure. If there is a big push for education and english here I can see something but that would also mean more economic jobs here which is not happening anytime soon.

There are maybe going to be an extra 500 dudes here a year and that's about it.

[Nounce]

Tens of thousands. Dream on. The digital nomad visa will change nothing. Most of the digital nomads that are here do just fine without it.Overall new comers will change the real estate market. When the real estate market is booming, it will not be limited in one single area.

Just reading reports here one should know the price is changing. Remember an experienced poster was asked to pay way more money than usual in the more expensive centro club. I think there is a reason they asked for the high price. It is because by luck some other guys, likely new paid it. And in this case, the girl was also successful. This is not limited in just one club. Basically there are guys think it is so cheap and very happy to pay despite overpaying.

Many girls basically want to have a gringo boyfriend to take care of them. It does not matter if it is seeking or facebook. Just reading reports here you know people are paying for SB, and sometime more than one and he is not even in Medellin.

[MoonShot]

I have been in Medellin for a few days now and it feels about the same. I am staying in Laureles now so far the food has been great. There are definitely a lot of wonderful places to eat in Laureles. Later this week I'm going to move to Poblado for the last part of my trip. This is my fourth trip so I'm starting to get the hang of things. In my previous trips I used Facebook exclusively and this trip is no different. There are more than enough options on Facebook so far things have been going very well for the most part. There is still time for me to be drugged and robbed but so far everything is fine.

[Sean EZ]

So why don't you ask for pictures without makeup? I do not like chicks with makeup so it is normal for me to ask.I also ask if they have any babies. I always ask a prostitute in Parque Lleras, or Tinder or SA if they have a baby. It's almost always a disqualifier. I am not paying hourly to look at saggy boobs.

[Sean EZ]

A different take for you on the digital nomads of which the government is estimating there will be about 45,000 of them issued in the next year and a half. I would estimate that maybe 1/2 of the Visas will go to women, and the other 1/2 say to men, some of which are gay. Of those men, a lot of them will be "non-mongers", being younger guys, so I see little impact on mongering prices, however as you mention, .Some of them are Venezula IT guys, not just the "well paid" US or EU based gringo, this is a myth. The bar to entry is low. This is not an investment visa. Stop worrying about the competition.

Anyone on this forum who is here for a weekend, your market is the dumb Parque Llleras girls and some strip club broads. This is your main competition, the girls are demanding to be paid by the hour and some guys willing to throw the ask price cash at them. This is a city of four million, and every girl wants a sugar daddy to support them, just find a way to meet them.

This is the new era of Instagram, everyone wants a new iPhone, figure this out guys haha.

[RedMan0505]

I have been in Medellin for a few days now and it feels about the same. I am staying in Laureles now so far the food has been great. There are definitely a lot of wonderful places to eat in Laureles. Later this week I'm going to move to Poblado for the last part of my trip. This is my fourth trip so I'm starting to get the hang of things. In my previous trips I used Facebook exclusively and this trip is no different. There are more than enough options on Facebook so far things have been going very well for the most part. There is still time for me to be drugged and robbed but so far everything is fine.LOL, that drugged and rob part, it's cheaper and safer for me to delta vacation Spain, enjoy stay safe LOL.

[DonCarlos1234]

A different take for you on the digital nomads of which the government is estimating there will be about 45,000 of them issued in the next year and a half. I would estimate that maybe 1/2 of the Visas will go to women, and the other 1/2 say to men, some of which are gay. Of those men, a lot of them will be "non-mongers", being younger guys, so I see little impact on mongering prices, however as you mention, as Colombia develops tourism wise, especially Medellin, it will drive prices up for everything which is no surprise. And even with increased pricing that has been going on, the Country is still a bargain. Where can you get gasoline for around $ 2 USD, and get fucked for as low as $ 10 USD short of going to India or somewhere in Africa. I have noticed a logarithmic increase in tourism since the Pandemic in Medellin. Everything changes as your aware, but it's going on all over the World with prices going up everywhere, but Colombia is still at a fraction of pricing compared to other mongering venues. We can all complain about it, but there isn't much we can do about it.Digital Nomads consist of people working remotely using Medellin's high speed infrastructure I. E. We Work sites, hostels and cyber cafes. Already they include travel bloggers / adventurers, eco tourism people, investment bloggers and well. I predict tourism will grow exponentially. Like a skyrocket! It's not their income that will increase prices but who they reach. They are MEGA influencers. I doubt many will want to visit El Centro so not too much to worry about here. They will hit the malls, take tours, eat out, fill up hotels. Might be hard to get an uber on the weekends. LOL Best to move to Bogota before it's also discovered.

[DonCarlos1234]

LOL. Like so many guys here, you are literally doing the sour grapes thing. Whatever preconceived notions you have of seeking, they go out the window when you meet the women. Most of the women I put in the hooker or never want to see them again category straight up. But there are a few that are in the possible sugar baby category, and a very few move up into the SB / GF category, and the women are judging me likewise.

But you have two things way wrong. Every guy I know who uses seeking has gotten tired of the hookers and is looking for better. They do not go on the site looking for love. With men, sex comes first and then love, and it is the opposite for women.

The second thing you have way wrong is that women do not go on the site because of its name. They go on it because their friends have, and their expectations are whatever their friends got: money, Iphone, husband ETC. Yes, there have been many women who have gotten their husbands from the site.

The less important thing is every guy I know who uses seeking knows there are the hooker types on the site. And sure why wouldn't the hooker types use seeking in addition to FB or IG? Yeah, I would not be shocked if there were an 80 or 90% overlap. However, what you do not see is the beautiful women who fucked me and expected no compensation. Heck, I had one girl I gave a few hundred bucks to try to give me the money back because she wanted to be my GF. I cannot tell you the top seeking girls do not use FB or IG, but I would be surprised if they did. They do not need to.

What you do not see that I do is a guy who has his big head trying not to be envious of what this guy Davv got and a little head that is envious, and you are trying to rationalize how your dick is feeling. I know when I was married, I had all the bullshit excuses about staying married that I am sure you have.

If you are really married, then you should be happy with what you got but obviously you are not and want better. The best you can get when you are married is a SB looking mostly for money, and it does not make much sense for you to have a SB or babies unless you are in Colombia. To get a quality GF, you would have to lie and lead her on. A woman is not going to open up to a married man as compared to when you are single. I have been in both spots. I know.

Obviously, your brain is winning the battle with your dick, and that is fine. It is only when your dick wins, and I am 99% sure it will eventually, that you should even look at seeking. So it is not for you and quit the nonsensical worrying about others. They have experience with the site, and you do not.Thanks Elvis, with words of wisdom there is hope. . . Some of you might want to switch over to the SA part of ISG. Link is under dating agencies below. IMHO Colombia (maybe MX) is the promised land.

[Zeos1]

Digital Nomads consist of people working remotely using Medellin's high speed infrastructure I. E. We Work sites, hostels and cyber cafes. Already they include travel bloggers / adventurers, eco tourism people, investment bloggers and well. I predict tourism will grow exponentially. Like a skyrocket! It's not their income that will increase prices but who they reach. They are MEGA influencers. I doubt many will want to visit El Centro so not too much to worry about here. They will hit the malls, take tours, eat out, fill up hotels. Might be hard to get an uber on the weekends. LOL Best to move to Bogota before it's also discovered.Digital nomads, or more broadly the digital economy of Medellin, is growing most likely. But tourism overall is nowhere near what it was pre-Covid, it is recovering but not there yet. I'm in a hotel that would have been full pre-covid. And I can see two other larger hotels next door essentially. Occupancy is probably 10%. So the tourism numbers have a ways to go. And the digital nomad guys, yep, I talk to lots of them. None of them are even looking at the digital nomad visa. And they are not in the tens of thousands, and are not affecting much of anything other than the market for furnished rentals in possibly a couple of areas, although again, with tourism not back fully yet that is not much of an issue.

Cost inflation and inflation in general is an issue, but I don't think the mongers or digital nomads or even tourism has much or anything to do with that. It is more of the same that has happened and is happening in the rest of the world.

And as far as mega influencers and all of that. Who knows. If they influence tourism they may become a factor in bringing back tourism. There are a lot of backpackers and younger tourists in general, although again, not back to pre pandemic levels.

[YoungPapi]

Hey guys,

Just wanted to ask what are some potential spots I can pick up a girl at that's relatively safe to go to. I had planned to meet a girl I talked to for a couple years (long story) but she flaked on me, luckily I have another girl I'm supposed to meet but she's on vacation at the beach and won't be back in Medellin till next week. I really need to get me nice few girls while I wait but the problem is I'm staying south of Laureles I believe the area is called Rosales. Do you guys happen to know of any spots nearby to pick up a girl or would I have to go to Poblado to get some action? I'm trying to take it slow since its my first time in Colombia and I'm solo so I want to be as safe as possible yet I'm still willing to risk it a bit just to get some Colombian action.

[MoonShot]

Digital Nomads consist of people working remotely using Medellin's high speed infrastructure I. E. We Work sites, hostels and cyber cafes. Already they include travel bloggers / adventurers, eco tourism people, investment bloggers and well. I predict tourism will grow exponentially. Like a skyrocket! It's not their income that will increase prices but who they reach. They are MEGA influencers. I doubt many will want to visit El Centro so not too much to worry about here. They will hit the malls, take tours, eat out, fill up hotels. Might be hard to get an uber on the weekends. LOL Best to move to Bogota before it's also discovered.I posted that about digital nomads because of a newspaper article I read about how digital nomads have priced out locals in certain big cities in Mexico. They talk about how digital nomads have caused rental prices to skyrocket and that the number of digital nomads has increase dramatically since COVID. It was a very negative article about how digital nomads have caused prices to go up particularly Mexico City.

It may not be the digital nomad Visa that causes changes in Colombia but it may just be the increase in digital nomads. It will be interesting to see what if any changes may occur in Medellin. For long time visitors to Medellin, they have already noticed the large increase in visitors and the negative impact on Medellin.

It does not affect me as much because I like to travel to different countries. I'm currently exploring Medellin but I have visited Thailand and the Philippines much more. Westerners are always complaining about how other types of visitors or ruining the city that they visit a lot. Like people complaining about the Koreans in the city or complaining about the Russians in Pattaya at least in the past. Or complaining about the Japanese or the Chinese or whatever. Things change due to circumstances and I think digital nomads for a recent phenomenon that will also change things in certain cities overseas.

Is it affecting me on this trip? Absolutely not but it is just an abstract concept for now. I have more than enough Facebook girls to entertain me on this trip. If anything, they are a bit too aggressive in trying to get me to see them. There are too many girls I want to see to see girls more than once but I try to be nice about it. I am a newcomer to Medellin so I can't compare it to the way it was a few years ago. All I know is the way it is right now is still very nice for older mongers who want to have a good time with young attractive girls for a reasonable price. That is enough for me and should be enough for most short time visitors. The reason I was thinking about digital nomads Is that in less than a year and a half I will do slow traveling as a retired person and Columbia is a country that I would consider visiting for a few months at a time.

But for now I'm just a short-term visitor for about a week or so and enjoying my visit so far.

[Surfer500]

I also ask if they have any babies. I always ask a prostitute in Parque Lleras, or Tinder or SA if they have a baby. It's almost always a disqualifier. I am not paying hourly to look at saggy boobs.There's nothing like un-wrapping a Chica and her boobs are like sunny side up eggs that kind of run.

Or a Chica whose pussy is so loose your dick doesn't even hit the sides of her vagina.

I'm guessing this is what your trying to stay clear of.

A total turn off for me and a boner killer.

However, some guys specifically look for Chicas with babies who are lactating.

I guess it turns them on when their milk is dripping out of their nipples while riding them.

And then there are guys looking for very pregnant Chicas.

At least in this situation you don't need to ask any questions. LOL.

[Nounce]

... But tourism overall is nowhere near what it was pre-Covid, it is recovering but not there yet. I'm in a hotel that would have been full pre-covid. And I can see two other larger hotels next door essentially. Occupancy is probably 10%. So the tourism numbers have a ways to go. ...

And as far as mega influencers and all of that. Who knows. If they influence tourism they may become a factor in bringing back tourism. There are a lot of backpackers and younger tourists in general, although again, not back to pre pandemic levels.Google this term Medellins Growth in Tourism Over the Years

It says.


Between January and May of this year, 472,826 travelers passed through immigration controls, exhibiting a 38% growth when compared to 2019. It also says something about Medellin GDP.

I have lived in many neighborhoods. I can observe the changes simply based on Airbnb ownership or management.

[Elvis 2008]

If marriage sucks, is it worth it to give everything up for a woman in Colombia.Very, very unlikely. In most cases, guys will be happier playing the field.

[DondeSea72]

Very, very unlikely. In most cases, guys will be happier playing the field.The only thing I miss about being married or being in a serious relationship is having someone to talk to at dinner. That's priceless, and I miss it. I've had some ladies that can really cook and there aren't many things better than working your ass of all day and knowing at the end you get to come home and eat a delicious dinner.

I learned the hard way that just because you're married it doesn't mean you can have sex when ever you want.

It's from a movie but it's true, marriage is just like buying someone you hate a house and giving them half of your stuff. In other words they get half the money and all the pussy.

I'm planning my 2nd trip to Colombia now. I'm going full board Spanish immersion so my next report will be from MDE.

I don't use seeking, fb, tinder, or any of that. This trip I'm going to practice just talking to Chicas and being nice to them.

If I die then I get to go home to God. If I'm tortured I get to atone for my sins. If I end up in jail and suffer then I get to have God close to me. There is no downside. I either win or I learn. There is no such thing as losing.

Fui diestro, fui valiente y arrogante.

[DownLow123]

The days are really running into each other. I have to go back into my whatsapp / fb messages to see who I saw and recall the memory. Headed out to El Centro for 1st time with a fellow monger also staying in the Laureles area. What an eye opener when compared to the states. Not just the SW's and casas, but the poverty. There was this dude with no legs literally crawling around El Centro, that shit hurt seeing. Other's included black feet and almost black body, two little girls came up to me and asked for money, oldest one couldn't have been older than 9 and the other 6? Looked at my monger and he just looked down like man shit is rough. I told them lo siento pero no. My monger said they probably marked us as foreigners and their parents sent them. Good on the spot call by him. We did see 1-2 hot street walkers but didn't partake. Some are aggressive and will touch you as you walk by them. It was nice to experience El Centro finally and quit reading about it on the board. We spent about 4-5 hours in El Centro before it started pouring out which led us to grab an uber and head back.

I forgot who I saw this date, but nothing so spectacular to remember and write about.

One thing I notice is Colombians are hard working people. They get paid less than our USA counter parts yet they work 10 x harder. My observation.

Saw a pregnant SW just behind veracruz church if anyone is into pregnant woman. She was actually a bit cute.

I planning on going back to Calle 52 (behind the church) to seek out the big butt vennies Worldtravel 69 put on the map for us.

Do you bring SW's to a short stay motel? Where do you go to get the deed done? I noticed some of them were sitting on stairs in little alley ways, maybe something is up there to do the deed?

[MateoCast98]

Met this girl Ann on seeking, took her out on a date at the mall, seems like a pro. She's 21 has a kid, she looks good in pics, but she has some serious baby damage on her stomach. She hides it well. It was a bit of a turn off for me. LFK upcharged on BBJ, it was 300 k for the hour also she wants you to pay for her Ubers. Her kitty is loose, boobs are a bit saggy probably from the breastfeeding. Her face is cute, but it doesn't negate all the negatives for me. I wouldn't repeat.

Curious if anyone else has seen her?

She mentioned she's super picky on seeking.

https://members.seeking.com/member/92cb5477-e2f0-469c-930b-6e051afa9f40

[MongerHunger]

The days are really running into each other. I have to go back into my whatsapp / fb messages to see who I saw and recall the memory. Headed out to El Centro for 1st time with a fellow monger also staying in the Laureles area. What an eye opener when compared to the states. Not just the SW's and casas, but the poverty. There was this dude with no legs literally crawling around El Centro, that shit hurt seeing. Other's included black feet and almost black body, two little girls came up to me and asked for money, oldest one couldn't have been older than 9 and the other 6? Looked at my monger and he just looked down like man shit is rough. I told them lo siento pero no. My monger said they probably marked us as foreigners and their parents sent them. Good on the spot call by him. We did see 1-2 hot street walkers but didn't partake. Some are aggressive and will touch you as you walk by them. It was nice to experience El Centro finally and quit reading about it on the board. We spent about 4-5 hours in El Centro before it started pouring out which led us to grab an uber and head back.

I forgot who I saw this date, but nothing so spectacular to remember and write about.

One thing I notice is Colombians are hard working people. They get paid less than our USA counter parts yet they work 10 x harder. My observation.Most every thing you mentioned can be seen in the United States and Europe. Obviously you have never been to certain parts or even have the knowledge of San Francisco, LA, Chicago, Detroit, New York, Amsterdam, London, Athens, Greece, Frankfurt, Germany and many other Western Cities. Your shock constitutes living in a bubble or maybe closed minded.

[LoveItHere69]

We did see 1-2 hot street walkers but didn't partake. Some are aggressive and will touch you as you walk by them. FYI. The ones touching you are the ones robbing you.

[MongerHunger]

The days are really running into each other. I have to go back into my whatsapp / fb messages to see who I saw and recall the memory. Headed out to El Centro for 1st time with a fellow monger also staying in the Laureles area. What an eye opener when compared to the states. Not just the SW's and casas, but the poverty. There was this dude with no legs literally crawling around El Centro, that shit hurt seeing. Other's included black feet and almost black body, two little girls came up to me and asked for money, oldest one couldn't have been older than 9 and the other 6? Looked at my monger and he just looked down like man shit is rough. I told them lo siento pero no. My monger said they probably marked us as foreigners and their parents sent them. Good on the spot call by him. We did see 1-2 hot street walkers but didn't partake. Some are aggressive and will touch you as you walk by them. It was nice to experience El Centro finally and quit reading about it on the board. We spent about 4-5 hours in El Centro before it started pouring out which led us to grab an uber and head back.Most every thing you mentioned can be seen in the United States and Europe. Obviously you have never been to certain parts or even have the knowledge of San Francisco, LA, Chicago, Detroit, New York, Amsterdam, London, Athens, Greece, Frankfurt, Germany and many other Western Cities. Your shock constitutes living in a bubble or maybe closed minded.

If you had mentioned the type of things you seen in Medellin but in relation to major European / American cities people would barely even bat an eye.

[DownLow123]

Sunday mornings are good days for taking pictures of medellin with your phone. Barely anyone out around 7-9 am. I walked around with my phone, felt safe the entire time. The traffic was also sparse as well. Walked to Unicentro (with phone out capturing the morning vibe) to go to the gym. They don't open until 11 am my phone said on Sundays. Fuck. So I headed back to my spot.

I came back in the mood for a date and just as I was reaching out to some prospects the first girl I saw on this trip (She literally arrived 20 minutes after I stepped into my Airbnb) hit me up on whatsapp. She looks like a light skinned Vivan Fox in her 20's. She wanted to grab lunch. Told her to come over first (Giggity) than we will get lunch. After arriving, we took some pics and she explained about the feel of the vibe from our first encounter. I explained it to her and she understood. The date started with some reggaeton music, her dancing around my Airbnb until she made it into the room. We started grinding on each other and off came the clothes. She began with a light blowjob on the corner of the bed and quickly turned into the best blowjob of my life. This chicka was sucking my dick while deep throating me. Hard to explain. Basically, she was massaging the tip using the very back of her throat somehow. And massaging the base with her tongue. Never in my life have I felt no shit like this. I could have sworn she was sucking cum straight out of my prostate with how hard she was sucking. I didn't last no longer than 5 minutes before I blew. I blew directly down her throat as my dick was still deep down her throat. She left it there for at least 15 secs after I came. Pulled it out for air, than deepthroated me again to get the last remaining drops out. Lord have mercy don't fall in love with this chick I told myself. After we were getting dressed, she whispers in google translate "Quiero que te corras dentro de mi coño profundo como lo hiciste en mi garganta" I fucking love Colombia I thought. Gave her 200 k.

We head to lunch. A nice Mexican place in Guadalupe? A bit expensive even in Colombia. We ordered a bunch of shit fair to say. Bill came to 130 k for the two of us. She paid for lunch. WTF I thought. I didn't even get a chance to pull out any money. So we take a taxi and head back to my Airbnb. I began feeling her out about round 2 to see if she was serious. I start teasing her. After a bit of chatting, I told her I need to head to Unicentro for some things. Ask her to walk with me. Stupid me because she's in high heels. But she obliges and off we go. What a cool personality she has. When you can crack jokes in a foreign language and it's funny to both parties, that shit is an awesome feeling. We were laughing almost the whole way there. I take out a small number of pesos from ATM, we go window shopping allowing food to digest and eventually head back to my spot. We get back to my place and round 2 almost immediately starts. She just jumps on the bed and begins undressing pointing to me to join her. SHIIIIT I said and joined her. She started with another amazing BJ before I couldn't take it anymore and flipped her over for doggy. Fine fucking ass she has. After about 10 minutes I get close so I tell her I'm hot and she gets on top to give me a break. She can ride dick like a champ. Think of a pendulum that rocks back and forth, that was my dick as she deep grinded me. Got close again so flipped her over for missionary. This didn't take long, 6-7 minutes before I told her leche and she grabbed my ass and pushed me into her before she started sucking on my tongue. I put it (what felt like) directly on her cervix and busted inside of her. She jumped a little so I know she felt it. She smiled and said gracias. She tried to play with some oozing out of her but barely any did as it was so deep inside of her. I really didn't want to nut inside but man these girls are good at their jobs! Thank God I gave her a fake name. I was with her most of the day, from 10 ish until 6-7 ish. This day only costed me 70 k!

We talked, she told me she wants to take me to Guadalupe (the place with the big rock and stairs) and that we should go this weekend. Told her maybe. I know I will be paying for that trip if I go. She was showing me some hotel rooms between 190 k – 480 k. A bit expensive.

We will see in a future report.

A couple hours after girl #3 hits me up. She sends me pics of her in this little tan dress with nothing under it. Told her I was tired maybe tomorrow but sent me another picture where I just couldn't say no. So she headed over, got to my spot a little before 9. Ordered some rappi for us that never came. We watched a show for about an hour on Netflix about zombies. She's the intimate one that wants you to hold her all the fking time. Which is a nice change of pace for me. So we acted like BF / GF and cuddled with her ass in a thong and a half mini shirt which only covered her tits. I was in my boxers. She kept jumping at the show LOL. It was a bit scary admittingly. Show ends, I turn off tv and lights and I try to get at her stroking her legs but she moves my hand and puts my arm and leg around her and she passes out LMAO. Does this girl ever sleep I thought. I also thought no way in hell am I paying her our full amount for this BS. She has an early class and sets the alarm on my phone for 5:45 am. I just stared at her while she was sleeping and thought MY GOD this girl is beautiful. Not an imperfection, looks like she's straight out of sports illustrated, cinnamon skin, long black hair down to her ass. Her body is also perfect. Told myself the next woman I get serious with is going to be a Colombian when I eventually move down here. I woke up to her sucking jr. Damn nice way to wake up. She than lays on her side, tells me to put my arm under her neck and holds my hand while holding my other arm of hers. She did this thing where she locks my legs so tight it applies extra penetrating pressure. Again, damn these girls are good at there job. I don't even make it to another position without busting. She asked for milk outside por fa vor so busted all over her ass. She than proceeded to put some inside her pussy. WHY I thought. She just hit me up as I'm writing this LOL. Anyways Sunday was a very busy day for me and I fell back to asleep and didn't wake up until 8-9 ish Monday morning. I love Colombia!

[L00PY]

I planning on going back to Calle 52 (behind the church) to seek out the big butt vennies Worldtravel 69 put on the map for us.

Do you bring SW's to a short stay motel? Where do you go to get the deed done? I noticed some of them were sitting on stairs in little alley ways, maybe something is up there to do the deed?FYI, you may or may not see any big butt vennies there on the map. The area is in flux with barricades and the normal flow of people.

The chica will always know a spot, often one where they get a kickback from. I'd say the one right by the church is a safe bet. In some ways, the closer the short time hotel, the better. Things are less likely to go wrong as they don't want to mess up their stomping grounds. I've reconsidered before after she said she had been banned from a given location for fighting. If you pick the place, you can control the situation a bit more. If you go to the place right there, it'll probably be fine. If she leads you down the block, around a corner, down another street, to somewhere, pay attention to your spidey senses and not what the little head's telling you.

[DownLow123]

Most every thing you mentioned can be seen in the United States and Europe. Obviously you have never been to certain parts or even have the knowledge of San Francisco, LA, Chicago, Detroit, New York, Amsterdam, London, Athens, Greece, Frankfurt, Germany and many other Western Cities. Your shock constitutes living in a bubble or maybe closed minded.

If you had mentioned the type of things you seen in Medellin but in relation to major European / American cities people would barely even bat an eye.I 100% agree with you as this is my first time outside of the USA, well other than being deployed with the USA Army.


FYI. The ones touching you are the ones robbing you.Facts! Thanks! I still remember Jbee's story when they tried to inch his phone out of his pocket while a vendor grabbed his attention, make sense.

[DownLow123]

FYI, you may or may not see any big butt vennies there on the map. The area is in flux with barricades and the normal flow of people.

The chica will always know a spot, often one where they get a kickback from. I'd say the one right by the church is a safe bet. In some ways, the closer the short time hotel, the better. Things are less likely to go wrong as they don't want to mess up their stomping grounds. I've reconsidered before after she said she had been banned from a given location for fighting. If you pick the place, you can control the situation a bit more. If you go to the place right there, it'll probably be fine. If she leads you down the block, around a corner, down another street, to somewhere, pay attention to your spidey senses and not what the little head's telling you.Good to know thanks, may partake Friday.

[DownLow123]

Day 7 in Laureles MDE Monday.

Went out with a fellow monger to check the metro out. Took the electric bus to the metro in Oriente. We took it all the way up and back (we didn't dare to get out off the metro). Will look back at all the pics and never forget those barrio's. Seeing them on TV compared to irl is no comparison.

We stopped for some food at a chicken place, in San Jose. The food was muy bien. I notice the meat is tastier than the states due to how Colombia raises the chicken, cattle etc naturally compared to an industry like the states.

We took the electric bus to Miraflores to ride the metro in that area. Doesn't go as high as Oriente but still captured many photos and enjoyed my time.

Could someone tell me how the Civica Eventual works? I bought one, loaded it with like 14 k than the last ride back me and amigo got stuck because no more money on card. We had to wait in a long line to recharge it at a lottery place. Though I didn't mind admiring all the 8-10's walking by but 5 hours in and my feet were killing me.

So finally got it reloaded and took electric bus to san antonio but we got off on the wrong side. So we said fuck it, we'll walk the rest of the way to suriamericana than down to laurels. Up on the bridge we got some nice videos of Colombian traffic. Maybe that video will shut my wife up about how bad usa traffic is once and for all.

We did visit Zandalya casa, as I said the days are all running into each other so don't know if we went on this day or the day prior. I didn't partake (I'm spoiled rotten sin no condon) think wearing one will give me performance issues. My Amigo took a cute little thing Daniella? With him. He enjoyed it which was a win for us.

Shout out to my fellow monger amigo with the kick-ass directions and the postday1 Levonorgestrel after the first girl scare.

The trip was about 5-6 hours, enjoyed it. No ladies to report, my feet was hurting and just wanted to get some work done, let my dick heal, than go to bed.

Tuesday's report is the scariest day of my life. To many details to start it now as I'm supposed to be meeting up with amigo to check parque lleras out in a few.

[BlueChange]

170 K + 40 K propiaa oral naturale.

https://masajistaspaisas.com/masajista/manuelapobladohot/

3244042185.

Review.

Woke up feeling anxious and wanted to relieve some stress. I went to the pages and came across here.

She responded quickly and was actually just leaving the gym. I was about 9:45 and I knew I would be her first client. There is something about being first and getting that fresh puss before it's been ran thru in the morning that makes it exciting. I'm able to get the first taste and my stank on it.

She is really comfortable with me on the phone she gives me her personal number and then even facetime me to say Hello,. Her photos match the pics however I can tell she is a bit aged in her face. Never mind though she is still sexy. She later reviled she is 26 however that face was looking closer to 31. Never the less still sexy.

She lives in Medellin's most thinly veiled bordello in Poblado. Torre Del Rio. Only other building to rival that is Belmonte. She tells me I can come a little earler then expected and I make my way over around 10:30. I get to the building and by this time its a normal knee jerk to have my celdua ready for the guards to record. I make my way up and she opens the door and bam hits me with DFK.

Walking past the empty living room into the back bedroom we waste no time and start kissing even more. Her tits are soo high and perky and she turns around and digs her plug ass into my cock. My pants are bursting as she grabs even more with her ass cheeks. Her tits are super fake but her ass she tells me is from the gym. She is def athentilc but still is built for fucking.

We get to bed and remove her top and revealing her hard nipples. I keep kissing and biting and sucking and going back to kiss her neck. She removes her panties and I have to get a taste. Her pussy is soo fresh its like natural water. No musty smell or anything just pure natural snatch. Now its my turn, wow this fucking girl can suck. She is very very gentle and her mouth is like soft velvet. She sucks and licks the cock with just the right amount of suction does an excellent job with my balls as well. (Make sure you are shaved as it was a pre-requesite that she asked before she agreed to oral natrual) we been foreplay about 14 min now and its time to fuck. She puts on the rubber, gets on top and wow her pussy is actually tight!!

She knows exactly how to ride and LOVES to use the mirror to let us look at each other as we fuck. Serioslly I turned my head away, she switched position and she motions me to look back at the mirror and watch how she fucks. What a narcissist! I'm getting ready to cum and I ask her where, she says he likes it on her tits however I Dubbo why but I couldn't contain myself and just finish in the bag.

We lay down another 20 min or so, she isn't a clock watcher at all and is super relax. She tells me she is a mom and her kid has blue eyes and shows me photos. Ok a little bit tooo personal time for me to split!!

Anyway in conclusion if you want someone who is a good fuck and lots of kissing and passion with nice big surgery tits THIS is your girl!!

[Elvis 2008]

The only thing I miss about being married or being in a serious relationship is having someone to talk to at dinner. That's priceless, and I miss it. I've had some ladies that can really cook and there aren't many things better than working your ass of all day and knowing at the end you get to come home and eat a delicious dinner.It is a lot cheaper to hire a cook, psychologist, and hooker.


I learned the hard way that just because you're married it doesn't mean you can have sex when ever you want.Studies show the sex goes down the longer you are involved. That is why I never thought I would get hitched. There are not many women who like sex more than men do.


Marriage is just like buying someone you hate a house and giving them half of your stuff. In other words they get half the money and all the pussy.That is if you have no prenup. It is dumb to get married without a prenup, and I did, but guys should NEVER do that. Thing is I have no idea what the laws are really like in Colombia and what the judges do there. Maybe they uphold the prenup contract and are objective, but I just do not seeing any judge in Colombia being all that sympathetic to a gringo.


If I die then I get to go home to God. If I'm tortured I get to atone for my sins. If I end up in jail and suffer then I get to have God close to me. There is no downside. I either win or I learn. There is no such thing as losing.
It sounds like you have some religious guilt. Goal of every species is to survive and reproduce. Man does that by men fucking as many women as they can, and God made it so that fucking new pussy was more pleasurable than old. See the Coolidge effect.

[KeviKev68]

I apologize for the late trip report. I hope someone will find it useful. I had a case of food poisoning that came from a pizza place in my hometown. I was sick for a week. I had made a mistake and shorted myself one day so it was only a 6 day trip instead of 7. That extra day lost made a difference.

I took a flight on JetBlue from SFO to FLL it was 10 pm flight arriving at 6:30 am (it was later due to weather affecting the route) I chose JetBlue because I was unhappy with the barebones service that I had experienced on Avianca on my first trip to Medellin. The only advantages of Avianca a national carrier for Colombia is that they help you with the registration. You don't have to Check-Mig they handle it for you when you reach the counter. Also, when I got to customs there wasn't a long line or confusion. On the other hand, with the USA carriers you have to do Check- Mig no earlier than 2 days and at least an hour before you arrive. It's worth repeating that the airlines will NOT let your check your bags or board until you can prove that you have registered. When I got to Medellin the line for customs took over an hour. However, I enjoyed the service on JetBlue far better, outstanding entertainment movies, music and Direct TV at no extra charge. There are snacks that are free they had a pantry you could get all you want. You might want to get a sandwich before you board they don't serve meals per se.

Day 1.

I stayed at an AirBNB in Laureles I spoke about it in an earlier thread. I saw 3 women on this trip and 2 were repeats from my first visit.

I saw Laura again she's 21 and a college student. She speaks and writes English fluently. She has been to Panama but not to the USA. I was thinking that she is a real working girl but that isn't the case.

When we talked the first time she asked for 250 cop. So, Laura is full figured China not fat but not a flacita either. Her tits are 36 DD I think they are enhanced. She's the best fuck I've ever had in terms of performance. There's no clock watching and it's full GFE. I have to say she gives me the longest BBBJ I have ever had, She has taken to swallowing my cum. I tried to warn her just made a noise like ok and swallowed my load anyway. It was a TLN and MSOG and she stayed with me until 4 am. I was so tired from my flight and had gas really bad. I wanted to fart so many times but she had her arms around me. She finally left I am not much of TLN guy. I've had it in Manila, Cebu, DR and Tijuana but It wasn't sex all night. There's chemistry but she doesn't sext me at all.

Day 2.

I went to breakfast at this place in Laureles called "Sweet Georgia Cafe" it's a really good gringo menu. The waitresses wear these short mini-skirts but the only I like is the shorter girls that works weekends. I get the French Toast bacon (thick slices) and eggs. They also give you sliced fruit and coffee and juice for 30 cop. On this day I went Plaza Botero to look around but I wasn't going to do anything. It was early Saturday and not much of a selection anyway. I was out there for an hour or two and got an Uber back to the apartment.

I had at least 6 contacts that I was talking to from Tinder, Colombian Cupid and Seeking. My Tinder was was just clocking on I'ts own. Listen, I'm not a good looking guy I am a fat black guy over 50 with better than average teeth. These girls were just biting so I was talking to people anywhere from 200 cop - 600 cop. These girls were fine as fuck (not necessarily hotter than the college sorority and athletes that I fuck from Seeking) these girls mostly are really nice. There are some who suffer from GPS asking for 600 cop or 300 US dollars for non GFE. So, I said "fuck it" I whittled my list down to the ones who offered full GFE. I found takers but I had stuff to do so no sexo from the list. I took a nap went out to eat and over to Parque Lleras. I was just sitting main area across the street from the clubs. I saw this little fllacita with Daisy Duke shorts on. She had sexy legs a no Tatts. She said her name was Karolina 20 Years old brunette light complexion. She spoke some English and said she is from Venezuela. She has a 2 year old and 300 cop. I got her Whats App and walked up the street away from the park. I was approached by 2 girls who said they were 19 and 20. I was kind of tired but noticed those girls had to be teenagers. Game Over I went back to apartment.

Day 3 - I had made date with Sophia from Seeking. I saw her on my last trip. She is the hottest girl in Colombia that I have met. She is 21 years old blond college student doesn't speak English. On her Whats App you can see her partying with friends at a pool in a bikini. It was a risk negotiating for BB but I did it. I offered 500 cop. She said that she's never done it before and not to cip. So, 9 pm comes along and the Uber I sent her arrives. She had some shorts on. Sophia has sexy tanned legs and no Tatts. A girly girl who reminds me of a young Olivia the'abo. We talk for a bit and she took her shorts off revealing a sexy thong. I took her to the bedroom and licked her meaty pink pussy. She was squirming and we switched positions and she gave me a mechanical BBBJ.

Wethen got into missionary and her pussy was tight it felt so good I felt skin friction soft but giving away when I got deeper. . When was all the way in she opened her mouth really wide and I could not help but to "jack hammer" and then pulled out let a load that could fill a gas tank. It felt so good. I was going to get and put my clothes on but I saw a look on her face and got right back on her and I worked over that pussy she was moaning and I pulled out and came again. I felt kind of guilty fucking a 21 year old I am 55. I gave her box of chocolates and sent her away.

Day 4- I made an appointment with Majestic Dental Group in El Poblado to get my teeth whitened. I had a faint yellow in my teeth. When I got to the place the hot manager offered me Champagne which I denied. This girl who did my procedure was 20 something morena flacita. She was wearing a mask but took it off to show me how to rinse the solution with my my mouth closed. She had the prettiest face with a mole on the right side. Didn't speak English but she was fine. I got the 90 minute treatment for 360 cop or $72 at that time.

I was talking to other girls on WhatsApp to see who was down to meet. The timeframe that people could meet due to school, work and other stuff wasn't working out. But, I get a text from Sophia from the previous night and she said that she was DTF. The chemistry with Sophia is clearly not there. This is really about money. That's okay but I told her that. She said that she would stay longer and for me to get some alcohol and we can talk. There's only one problem: she doesn't speak English. So, I had to pass.

The next girl who I met was Karen. She was actually from Colombian Cupid. I was taken aback at first because she was talking in terms of dollars rather than Colombian pesos. She wanted $100 bucks which was 472 cop. I countered with 400 and she came over. Karen had red dyed hair and was a flacita from Comuna 13 . She was ok had a small opening and the BBBJ was better than the night before but I won't repeat.

Day 5.

I was still hearing from Sophia and wanted to pull the trigger but it was too late. I just went out on this day to see Comuna 13 which was nice and a lot of cuties. I had incoming calls and messages from Seeking girls from back home. This one girl that I used to fuck bb for 200 but just ghosted me almost 2 years ago re-appeared. She said she had another kid and didn't have money blah blah blah. It was like Chris Rock said " don't let broke dicks come inside of you. " I just told her to call Sociall Services. I didn't meet anyone on this day.

Day 6.

I saw Laura again and we had sex from 8 pm to 3 am. I think she enjoys the sex and money. I like to eat fresh young pussy. The bed which was much harder than my Sleep Number and she liked it betta than the one she had at home. It was a good visit not as good as the other visit but enough for a future visit.

Return.

I didn't meet anyone on this day. I wanted to hit Sophia before returning but it didn't pan out. I was talking Karolina from Parque Lleras but she was a young Vennie and I didn't know how to verify her so I passed, Lots of women wanted to meet but not enough time or the right time. I have my 2 keepers Laura and Sophia but will add one or two more from my waiting lists.

I did have problems upon return to USA at FLL. The carousel broke down and it took 30 minutes to get my luggage that had to be re-checked. At this airport it doesn't go through. I didn't think about that. I only had 2 hours to make my flight home but 30 minutes had been wasted. The line for immigration was over an hour long. I did not have time to get food and barely made my flight. The next time I will use Global Entry it had no line at all.

[MoonShot]

When I arrived in Medellin, the line for customs was quite long like the last time. It took about 45 minutes or so. There is WiFi so you can entertain yourself on your phone as you wait.

Medellin has a number of large clean modern shopping malls. I like the food courts there and there are plenty of options for eating delicious food for a reasonable price.

Exito is an excellent supermarket chain. They have branches everywhere. They are not the same size. Some are smaller and some are huge. The big ones are quite impressive and offer everything you would need food wise.

When selecting a hotel you do have to be careful to research whether it is guest friendly. Not all hotels allow guests and some charge extra when you have visitors. You can always ask before booking. Now is also the case that some hotels have a written policy about guests but they do not strictly enforce it.

I have stayed in hotel where the policy is no guest after 9:00 pm And the girl came in at 9:30 with no problem. Another hotel said that there was a charge for each visitor but they did not charge me.

I'm still in Medellin now I would say so far the Facebook scene Is as good as ever. There are plenty of young attractive girls interested in meeting gringos to earn a little money. You just need to be patient because they may not respond to you immediately and many are not full-time professionals so you need to start with a little small talk so they can feel comfortable with you. They want to see what you look like so you should have some current pictures on your Facebook profile. It always helps to have some funny pictures so you give the impression that you have a sense of humor and not a boring serious guy.

One issue that I have is that some of the girls are very aggressive in trying to see you so they will send you a number of messages. Yes, you can ignore the messages but if you plan on seeing the girl one day, you better respond. Like many guys, I set up more options than I have time available and seems everybody wants to see you on the same day. The girls lie to you all the time so it is not a big deal to lie to the girls about why you can't see them right now.

[Surfer500]

I took a flight on JetBlue from SFO to FLL it was 10 pm flight arriving at 6:30 am (it was later due to weather affecting the route) I chose JetBlue because I was unhappy with the barebones service that I had experienced on Avianca on my first trip to Medellin. The only advantages of Avianca a national carrier for Colombia is that they help you with the registration. You don't have to Check-Mig they handle it for you when you reach the counter. Also, when I got to customs there wasn't a long line or confusion. On the other hand, with the USA carriers you have to do Check- Mig no earlier than 2 days and at least an hour before you arrive. It's worth repeating that the airlines will NOT let your check your bags or board until you can prove that you have registered. When I got to Medellin the line for customs took over an hour. However, I enjoyed the service on JetBlue far better, outstanding entertainment movies, music and Direct TV at no extra charge. There are snacks that are free they had a pantry you could get all you want. You might want to get a sandwich before you board they don't serve meals per se.l.Jetblue hands down in Economy has everyone else beat for sure. As far as AVIANCA, well they still at least from LAX to MDE fly the larger jets with Business Class sleeping seats, but when doing a search say on Google or Kayak for business class flights with 180% flat seats from the USA it will only be on COPA. I've seen one way prices on COPA business class at upwards of $ 1,200 yet on AVIANCA about $ 800 for the business class seat with no service literally except coffee or water and a tray of slop to eat for everyone on the plane. And AVIANCA has the best schedule from MDE to LAX with you being able to leave MDE at 9 AM and be at LAX at 7 PM. So no early morning departure and no late arrival.

[Conqueeftadore]

So I set up an account for here in mde complete with pics and all that stuff. But then what now? It's a new account and I have zero friends. How do I connect with women here?

[Nounce]

I bought one, loaded it with like 14 k than the last ride back me and amigo got stuck because no more money on card. ....I guess you ride metro (1) from Laurales to San Antonio, get on tramcar (2) to Buenos Aires to catch the cable car (3). You have two passengers so 14000 bought you about 6 tickets total, probably with some discount depending on the combination of the cars you took. The scanner will tell you how much you have left.

[PigSavinBoy]

I guess you ride metro (1) from Laurales to San Antonio, get on tramcar (2) to Buenos Aires to catch the cable car (3). You have two passengers so 14000 bought you about 6 tickets total, probably with some discount depending on the combination of the cars you took. The scanner will tell you how much you have left.San Antonio to Tranvia is integrated so it doesn't charge for the transfer. Same Miraflores / Oriente to metrocable (check metro map for all integrated stations). Not sure how does the system work for double swipes though. Best to reload the card on the less crowded stations as the queues can get long otherwise. Also, one can easily walk from Buenos Aires to San Antonio, as it's downhill (and an interesting walk anyway). Just be careful not to get hit by a tram or moto / bicycle (keep behind green painted lines).

[Zeos1]

I guess you ride metro (1) from Laurales to San Antonio, get on tramcar (2) to Buenos Aires to catch the cable car (3). You have two passengers so 14000 bought you about 6 tickets total, probably with some discount depending on the combination of the cars you took. The scanner will tell you how much you have left.5000 to buy the card initially. So subtract that too. And the cable metro costs extra compared to just using the regular metro. Anyway, 14 mil doesn't get you very far.

[Davvv100]

Met this girl Ann on seeking, took her out on a date at the mall, seems like a pro. She's 21 has a kid, she looks good in pics, but she has some serious baby damage on her stomach. She hides it well. It was a bit of a turn off for me. LFK upcharged on BBJ, it was 300 k for the hour also she wants you to pay for her Ubers. Her kitty is loose, boobs are a bit saggy probably from the breastfeeding. Her face is cute, but it doesn't negate all the negatives for me. I wouldn't repeat.


https://members.seeking.com/member/92cb5477-e2f0-469c-930b-6e051afa9f40Thank you for the heads up. I'll block her.

[JjBee62]

Most every thing you mentioned can be seen in the United States and Europe. Obviously you have never been to certain parts or even have the knowledge of San Francisco, LA, Chicago, Detroit, New York, Amsterdam, London, Athens, Greece, Frankfurt, Germany and many other Western Cities. Your shock constitutes living in a bubble or maybe closed minded.Small towns, big cities, you can find it throughout the US. However, most people never see it. If it becomes too visible local government and law enforcement work to make it less visible.

The only real difference is that Colombia doesn't waste money trying to hide the existence of poverty, although I'm sure they find other ways to waste money.

[Davvv100]

She is very very gentle and her mouth is like soft velvet. She sucks and licks the cock with just the right amount of suction does an excellent job with my balls as well.
Glad to hear you had a good time. Thanks for the review.

[JjBee62]

Sunday mornings are good days for taking pictures of medellin with your phone. Barely anyone out around 7-9 am. I walked around with my phone, felt safe the entire time. The traffic was also sparse as well. Walked to Unicentro (with phone out capturing the morning vibe) to go to the gym. They don't open until 11 am my phone said on Sundays. Fuck. So I headed back to my spot.Good report. Just a couple of notes.

1. It's Guatape, the lake with the big stone, not Guadalupe.

2. Sundays and holidays (I believe from 7 am to 2 pm) is Ciclovia. Certain streets are shut down ro traffic and are opened up for walking, jogging, bicycling, skating, etc. I generally refer to it as either Spandex Appreciation Day, or the Camel Toe Parade. In Laureles you'll find it around El Estadio. In Poblado they shut down 1 side of Avenida Poblado and you can follow the route all the way from Envigado to El Centro. If the weather is good, it's a great way to spend a few hours.

3. I'm assuming you haven't had a vasectomy. Don't be too surprised on a later trip to find out you're a daddy.

[JjBee62]

Day 7 in Laureles MDE Monday.

Went out with a fellow monger to check the metro out. Took the electric bus to the metro in Oriente. We took it all the way up and back (we didn't dare to get out off the metro). Will look back at all the pics and never forget those barrio's. Seeing them on TV compared to irl is no comparison.

We stopped for some food at a chicken place, in San Jose. The food was muy bien. I notice the meat is tastier than the states due to how Colombia raises the chicken, cattle etc naturally compared to an industry like the states.

We took the electric bus to Miraflores to ride the metro in that area. Doesn't go as high as Oriente but still captured many photos and enjoyed my time.

Could someone tell me how the Civica Eventual works? I bought one, loaded it with like 14 k than the last ride back me and amigo got stuck because no more money on card. We had to wait in a long line to recharge it at a lottery place. Though I didn't mind admiring all the 8-10's walking by but 5 hours in and my feet were killing me.

So finally got it reloaded and took electric bus to san antonio but we got off on the wrong side. So we said fuck it, we'll walk the rest of the way to suriamericana than down to laurels. Up on the bridge we got some nice videos of Colombian traffic. Maybe that video will shut my wife up about how bad usa traffic is once and for all.

We did visit Zandalya casa, as I said the days are all running into each other so don't know if we went on this day or the day prior. I didn't partake (I'm spoiled rotten sin no condon) think wearing one will give me performance issues. My Amigo took a cute little thing Daniella? With him. He enjoyed it which was a win for us.

Shout out to my fellow monger amigo with the kick-ass directions and the postday1 Levonorgestrel after the first girl scare.

The trip was about 5-6 hours, enjoyed it. No ladies to report, my feet was hurting and just wanted to get some work done, let my dick heal, than go to bed.

Tuesday's report is the scariest day of my life. To many details to start it now as I'm supposed to be meeting up with amigo to check parque lleras out in a few.A few more notes.

1. The entire system is called the Metro. It's made up of 2 lines of Metro trains, 2 lines of Metro buses, several Metrocables (the gondolas) and the Tranvia (which is the one you took to Oriente). There is also a feeder bus system which brings people to the various metro stations. There's am app available which can help with finding your way around.

2. The Civica card can be recharged at any station. Look for the ticket booth as you enter. I usually put 20 k on the card and whenever there is no line I'll add more.

[Knowledge]

You can reload your card at Gana locations. They are all over the city, sometimes as many as three only a few doors from each other and outside of most metro stations.


San Antonio to Tranvia is integrated so it doesn't charge for the transfer. Same Miraflores / Oriente to metrocable (check metro map for all integrated stations). Not sure how does the system work for double swipes though. Best to reload the card on the less crowded stations as the queues can get long otherwise. Also, one can easily walk from Buenos Aires to San Antonio, as it's downhill (and an interesting walk anyway). Just be careful not to get hit by a tram or moto / bicycle (keep behind green painted lines).

[DownLow123]

I guess you ride metro (1) from Laurales to San Antonio, get on tramcar (2) to Buenos Aires to catch the cable car (3). You have two passengers so 14000 bought you about 6 tickets total, probably with some discount depending on the combination of the cars you took. The scanner will tell you how much you have left.Yes I noticed this, I should load the card with at least 20 k next trip.


San Antonio to Tranvia is integrated so it doesn't charge for the transfer. Same Miraflores / Oriente to metrocable (check metro map for all integrated stations). Not sure how does the system work for double swipes though. Best to reload the card on the less crowded stations as the queues can get long otherwise. Also, one can easily walk from Buenos Aires to San Antonio, as it's downhill (and an interesting walk anyway). Just be careful not to get hit by a tram or moto / bicycle (keep behind green painted lines).Ok, makes sense, heh yea, we almost got hit by one funny you said that.


5000 to buy the card initially. So subtract that too. And the cable metro costs extra compared to just using the regular metro. Anyway, 14 mil doesn't get you very far.Si Correcto.

[TexasPistol]

So I set up an account for here in mde complete with pics and all that stuff. But then what now? It's a new account and I have zero friends. How do I connect with women here?I would suggest joining this group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/solterasysolterosmedellincolombia/

From this base you may also be able to send friend requests to friends of girls in this group and Facebook will also start sending you suggestions based on what type of friends you already have. It takes a little time, a lot of girls will want to send you "content" (their own homemade porn) and without a video chat I would not assume that any photos are real. Also check for underage girls. do not message them. they may try to blackmail you. With some patience and carefulness you'll find some good deals.

[DownLow123]

Saw girl number one. Still my fav and my 3rd or 4th time seeing. She has black hair with blonde streaks, green emerald eyes (first Columbiana I saw with light eyes, normally it's brown eyes) about 5-2.

We met a few hours before her class started. She was telling me she starts an internship here pretty soon, good for her! She takes her studies serious, I like that about her. We sit chat about our little fight we had a few days ago, (why I haven't seen her for last 3 days) we hug and make up and realize it was just a big misunderstanding. After some small talk in the kitchenette area we move to the bedroom. No music this time just straight to business since she still has to shower and prepare for her classes coming up.

BBBJ, she's really gentle and played with the boys, ok nice. She worked for a solid 10 minutes even after I was clearly ready for the main entry, NICE! Start in missionary as she tells me this is her fav position. Pumping away for a good 10 minutes before she realizes I'm caliente. She flips me on my back and take over. 10 minutes and now she's sweating all over me. I look at her and we both laugh so I flip her doggy. 5 minutes and I just can't buss. Annoying. Flip her back to missionary and felt that warm flood of hers when she orgasmed, that was enough for me to get mine. She smiles and says, "gracias por esperarme". I responded with "it just worked out like that". As we got dressed she mentions, "do you want anymore kids". I look at her and said why do you ask? You think some got in? She said no, I just want to know. So I told her if the right partner comes around than maybe one more. She says something like "interesante" ok. I thought. We both gets dressed, she says she wishes she can stay but can't. She wisely sets up another date with me (she tried for the next day Wednesday) but told her we should wait for Thursday (we are supposed to go out shopping and have lunch that day) she made me promise and off she went in her indriver.

I agreed to meet Girl # 0 parents, the very first girl I saw, the one that surprised the shit out of me and paid for lunch. Why? Don't fuckin ask. Where do I start.

So her, father, and mother picked me up at my Airbnb and brought me to there crib. I was under the impression they lived somewhere in the vicinity of Laureles. Nope, in a broken-down poor barrio near bello.

Driving up the mountain everyone saw the look of horror on my face and askes twice are you ok? Tried to play it off as cool as possible, si, esta bien as I quivered under my seat belt.

I ask, how much longer until were there, I was told 20 minutes. Ok. 20 minutes rolls by, are we now almost there, 20 minutes I'm told once again. OMFG I came real close to just jumping out of the truck and fetching the nearest taxi. It gets dark and now I don't have a fucking clue where we are. Half the fucking houses or whatevre they are missing roofs, others doors etc. Girl # 0 proceeds to say, (hunny my family don't have much money) I said "I don't judge", w / e they want to hear to keep them on my good side so I don't die, I thought.

It took about an hour to get to there place, up and down these narrow hills, so narrow that the brakes didn't work going down and the truck just slid into the street.

Finally got there. The parents give me a tour of there home, (makes me feel a little better) There's a beautiful view of Medellin from there 3rd floor balcony. Wow, had to take a few pics which I will post if there not to big. Eventually made my way to there living room, I say down on there chair and they offered me a banana. I took it and said gracias. I thought (wow there offering food, maybe I will live through this after all). I was led downstairs to girl number 0 apartment. Apparently, the parents lives upstairs, and girl #0 lives downstairs and her brother somewhere else I never quite figured out. Her parents were actually pretty cool.

As I was in girl #0 apartment, she left me alone while she showered. I reached out to a fellow monger asking for help. He said send him my google maps location. Took a good 15 minutes before I finally got a signal and sent. I will also attach to this post. Again, if pic meets requirements. After girl #0 gets out of shower I'm asked if I like fish. Told her I prefer pollo, she says ok. After walking her dog through the barrio with her, we all drive to a restaurant called Waira, which I will also post.

I doubt anyone has been way up there as its literally in the middle of nowhere. But the views are spectacular and I want to say it's almost worth it for the drive, or in my case, to risk your life for. The food was good, but upsetted my stomach the next day pretty bad. So there's the six of us at the restaurant, myself girl 0 her parents, her brother, and brothers GF. I lean over and tell girl 0 I only have 200 mil. She said no problem split bill with her father. As I was still alive, I said no problem. Bill came to +300 k. I ended up paying 200 k, everything I had and told her I need 35 k to get back to casa. She told me no worries her dad was going to take me. I asked when, as I just paid the 200 k which was not half of the bill.

We leave restaurant, the look of horror that was on my face is now a look of how am I still alive.

We get back to there place after many hills and slips down hills into traffic.

Girl #0 asks me if I want to sleep over, I felt the No begin to regurgitate out of my guy into my throat and out my moth before I stopped and said "well I have work to do early in the morning so probably not tonight sweety. She responded with, please it would make me and my parents happy. I just looked around the truck and spit out a meek ok. So ended up spending the night in girl #0 apartment. She offered some weed and gladly took it. Thought to myself if I'm going to die at least I will be high. Took about 5-6 tokes and I was gone. Colombian weed is very strong. Comparable with the states dispensary.

Girl #0 gave me the best blow job I have ever had in my life. She topped her last BJ. I wish I wasn't so high at the time so I could have enjoyed it better but everything was so numb. I barely ever saw my dick as it was buried deep down in her trachea / esophagus for the next 30 minutes. Yes, a straight 30 min blowjob that was fucking incredible. I had a hard time busting because of the weed, but she did that double BJ thing I tried to describe in my last report where she sucks the head, and middle / base of dick at same time. Yup, that did it. She gagged as I creampied her esophagus. Kept it in until every drop was out, despite her having a hard time breathing. When she finally pulled my dick out of her lung area, I was going limp at this point. I aksed her if she tasted any, she said no, I just felt it go into my stomach. I don't remember much as I was high as a kite and just passed out with one of my last thoughts "ok well if you guys are going to kill me know, I'm ready after that".

I passed out around 1-2 am. Don't know about her. She kept hogging the blankets and my feet kept getting cold so I kept waking up fighting for the blanket.

Her alarm goes off for 5 am. WTF I thought. She says we have to go as my dad needs to bring you back early. I was dressed in about 0. 1 secs. She sat up from the bed and I was already dressed standing next to the door ready to go. She commented how I didn't enjoy the stay. I replied I did, its just that I'm cold way up in these mountains and want to go back to mi casa for a warm shower (my Airbnb has hot water). She says ok.

So, we leave around 5:30 ish, I arrive back at my casa a little before 6:30 am, tell them to hold on and gave girl #0 150 k for breakfast and lunch and 50 k to her dad for gas or for not killing me.

Wow! You can't make this shit up.

What an amazing experience that I lived through!

Moral of the story, don't go meeting no girls' parents.

[Nounce]

.... Not sure how does the system work for double swipes though. ...I think different combination has a discount. It is not free. San Javiar or Santa Domingo are free and does not need to swipe again.

[DonMedellin]

Moral of the story, don't go meeting no girls' parents.Bro, you're lucky to be alive. 98 out 100 stories like this will end up with the guy being kidnapped. Glad you had a nice experience, but no one should take this kind of risk for a chick who you've only met once. If you don't mind I ask, how old are you? And can you pass as Colombian in a barrio?

[YoungPapi]

FYI, you may or may not see any big butt vennies there on the map. The area is in flux with barricades and the normal flow of people.

The chica will always know a spot, often one where they get a kickback from. I'd say the one right by the church is a safe bet. In some ways, the closer the short time hotel, the better. Things are less likely to go wrong as they don't want to mess up their stomping grounds. I've reconsidered before after she said she had been banned from a given location for fighting. If you pick the place, you can control the situation a bit more. If you go to the place right there, it'll probably be fine. If she leads you down the block, around a corner, down another street, to somewhere, pay attention to your spidey senses and not what the little head's telling you.Where would you find these big booty Venezuelans?

[Surfer500]

I think different combination has a discount. It is not free. San Javiar or Santa Domingo are free and does not need to swipe again.What may be confusing in terms of "swiping and discounts" with the Metro system, which one other poster mentioned, is that if using the Metro, and than use a connecting Metro bus, you will swipe your Civica, and you won't be charged to use the bus.

Simply put, you can ride the Metro from anywhere in the City to one of the Metro bus lines, as an example at the Industralies Station, and there is no additional cost to ride the connecting bus, meaning the transfer is included.

[DownLow123]

Bro, you're lucky to be alive. 98 out 100 stories like this will end up with the guy being kidnapped. Glad you had a nice experience, but no one should take this kind of risk for a chick who you've only met once. If you don't mind I ask, how old are you? And can you pass as Colombian in a barrio?I'm in my early 40's.

Yes I can pass as Colombian in a barrio (which is why I'm still alive I think).

I've met the chick three times before I met her parents.

[DownLow123]

Good report. Just a couple of notes.

1. It's Guatape, the lake with the big stone, not Guadalupe.

2. Sundays and holidays (I believe from 7 am to 2 pm) is Ciclovia. Certain streets are shut down ro traffic and are opened up for walking, jogging, bicycling, skating, etc. I generally refer to it as either Spandex Appreciation Day, or the Camel Toe Parade. In Laureles you'll find it around El Estadio. In Poblado they shut down 1 side of Avenida Poblado and you can follow the route all the way from Envigado to El Centro. If the weather is good, it's a great way to spend a few hours.

3. I'm assuming you haven't had a vasectomy. Don't be too surprised on a later trip to find out you're a daddy.1. Two diffrent parts of Colombia, got it.

2. Ah that would explain why, thanks for the clarification. "Spandex Appreciation Day, or the Camel Toe Parade" LMAO.

3. How's the child support laws in Colombia? LOL All jokes aside I had one scare but she's in college and I'm sure she took the pill on her own as she does not want any kids. The others a fellow monger gave me some plan be pills. So think I'm ok in that regard. Unless, there actively trying to have monger baby's.

[DownLow123]

A few more notes.

1. The entire system is called the Metro. It's made up of 2 lines of Metro trains, 2 lines of Metro buses, several Metrocables (the gondolas) and the Tranvia (which is the one you took to Oriente). There is also a feeder bus system which brings people to the various metro stations. There's am app available which can help with finding your way around.

2. The Civica card can be recharged at any station. Look for the ticket booth as you enter. I usually put 20 k on the card and whenever there is no line I'll add more.Thanks for shedding some more light on that metro debacle. All the comments here helps me understand it a lot better.

[JustinFields]

Newbie on this forums but not a newbie when it comes to mongering.

Went through some shit over the last few years and decided to do something for my self and Medellin Colombia it is.

I will be staying a week in mid July. Picked up an Airbnb in the el Poblado area.

I will see some girls up there but will also do other things and not make it the main focus of my trip.

I will be going solo. A few questions I have.

What do you guys recommend I do or see when I am out there.

How dangerous is the Lleras park area at night?

How do you guys like the food?

Is the tap water safe to drink?

Taxi or Uber?

[Fun Luvr]

ChicaCheck now has all features working.

[BlueChange]

Newbie on this forums but not a newbie when it comes to mongering.

Went through some shit over the last few years and decided to do something for my self and Medellin Colombia it is.

I will be staying a week in mid July. Picked up an Airbnb in the el Poblado area.

I will see some girls up there but will also do other things and not make it the main focus of my trip.

I will be going solo. A few questions I have.

What do you guys recommend I do or see when I am out there.

How dangerous is the Lleras park area at night?

How do you guys like the food?

Is the tap water safe to drink?

Taxi or Uber?What do you guys recommend I do or see when I am out there.

Parque Arvi and the metro cable. Gutape for a day trip, the museum near del rio. The old castle. Museo El Castillo. Communa 13 (watch yourself here).

How dangerous is the Lleras park area at night?

Super safe on the corners but always watch your back walking in between where you see police. Don't wave your phone around, be suspecious if you see 2 guys on a motorcyle near you.

How do you guys like the food?

Colombian food blows with the exception of cafe from juan valedez and a palito de queso from toasto. Most of the food you get is like things you find in america for take out but done poorly. There is like sushi, pizza, chinese etc. Download rappi so you can get delviery to your airbnb and also for groceries etc.

Is the tap water safe to drink?

It is very safe however I just prefer bottle water for portability. ONly place to worry about water is if you ever make a trip to Santa Marta. That beach town even the locals get sick from the paraiste in the water / food.

[JustTK]

What do you guys recommend I do or see when I am out there.

Parque Arvi and the metro cable. Gutape for a day trip, the museum near del rio. The old castle. Museo El Castillo. Communa 13 (watch yourself here).

How do you guys like the food?


Is the tap water safe to drink? ONly place to worry about water is if you ever make a trip to Santa Marta..IMO Guatape is the only world class activity for tourists in the MDE area, although you can do any of the other stuff you mention if you want to fill up your day.

Food sucks in general. The cheap restauraants dotted around town are terrible IMO - 20 different ways to serve the same handful of ingredients. But you can find a few great restaurants if you have the time to search them out? Which ones? - well, obvio depends on your budget. I like Govindas for day to day food, and I like Zaaika and Tabun for higher cost meals. I haven't been to any high end places for several years, so no comment on that.

Water in Sta Marta is not claimed to be potable. Govt will tell you not to drink it. I drink it after boiling. Whereas water in MDE is declared as safe to drink. I drink it from the tap.

[RiceRocket99]

Wow! You can't make this shit up.

What an amazing experience that I lived through!

Moral of the story, don't go meeting no girls' parents.Is this your first Medellin trip? Barrio life is the way to go!! But obviously, it’s not for everyone. I visit girls' families all the time and I use it as an opportunity to see more of the barrios, especially if it's somewhere I have never been. Personally, I feel safer in the barrios with locals than in Poblado with gringos hehe. And it's much more fun! I'm a Chinese guy in early 40's, but look like I'm in my 30's so I def don't blend in. But I speak Spanish, respect the culture, and have been hanging out in the barrios for years. One time I went to Pachelly way up in the hills of Bello and it's suppose to be a dangerous barrio, but I felt safe because I was amongst amigas and their families. It's one of the few times you would still have a gringo factor because up there they def don't see any foreigners. But yeah, I understand you being out of your element and feeling like you can get got. Just take a deep breath and enjoy it!! Btw..I tell chicas in the barrios Im a chino paisa hasta la chimba hpta!!! :)

[Anthony2023]

Moral of the story, don't go meeting no girls' parents.Here's my first thought, why did you even agree to meet this girls parents? I just never understood that, unless you both want something serious, I'm sure the parents feel the same way, otherwise they wouldn't go thru all that trouble.

I guess if you are a real gringo meaning non Latino, you're curious about the barrio life and want to experience it? But if you are Latino like myself, shit just visit your own family in Mexico or wherever like I do for the barrio experience. No need to take a risk like that in unfamiliar territory.

[Ramses2]

If an Airbnb doesn't specify that you can't bring female guests / sex workers, can I assume that it's OK? I've noticed that most of the places is laurels has this policy, but in San Diego / Buenos Aires it doesn't say that.

[DonCarlos1234]

I'm in my early 40's.

Yes I can pass as Colombian in a barrio (which is why I'm still alive I think).

I've met the chick three times before I met her parents.LOL Colombia is less dangerous then Tijuana where I lived for 6 years. These people are not out to kill you. You learned that and had a peak experience by taking some risk. If it was your first trip / first meeting of course that would be much more dangerous. Enjoy life while we can.

[Knowledge]

Pueblito Paisa is a good option for guys who are here for only a few days at a time. Guatape is amazing but it takes a day out of your trip.


IMO Guatape is the only world class activity for tourists in the MDE area, although you can do any of the other stuff you mention if you want to fill up your day.

Food sucks in general. The cheap restauraants dotted around town are terrible IMO - 20 different ways to serve the same handful of ingredients. But you can find a few great restaurants if you have the time to search them out? Which ones? - well, obvio depends on your budget. I like Govindas for day to day food, and I like Zaaika and Tabun for higher cost meals. I haven't been to any high end places for several years, so no comment on that.

Water in Sta Marta is not claimed to be potable. Govt will tell you not to drink it. I drink it after boiling. Whereas water in MDE is declared as safe to drink. I drink it from the tap.

[Nounce]

...Simply put, you can ride the Metro from anywhere in the City to one of the Metro bus lines, as an example at the Industralies Station, and there is no additional cost to ride the connecting bus, meaning the transfer is included.I took this fare chart tonight. Maybe I am wrong, but I think it lists different price for different combination. That is where the discount coming from. Your Spanish is much better than mine, so maybe you can shed some light on what it is describing.

[Nounce]

I went to a restaurant that I have been to before with a friend. The bill is under 400 mil total. What was weird was the waiter took out his translator to ask me how much tip I was going to give? 10%, 15% or 20%. My friend said it was no unusual in Medellin but it is for me and I have been to the same restaurant before and was even in the same seat as last time.

To put it into perspective, a regular girl told me she earns 45 mil for working a 10 hours night shift. My cleaner is 70 mil to clean and wash everything in the apartment.

[JjBee62]

I went to a restaurant that I have been to before with a friend. The bill is under 400 mil total. What was weird was the waiter took out his translator to ask me how much tip I was going to give? 10%, 15% or 20%. My friend said it was no unusual in Medellin but it is for me and I have been to the same restaurant before and was even in the same seat as last time.

To put it into perspective, a regular girl told me she earns 45 mil for working a 10 hours night shift. My cleaner is 70 mil to clean and wash everything in the apartment.I think in that situation I would have not even paid the 10% tip and I would have let him know I won't be back.

[Menteng]

I went to a restaurant that I have been to before with a friend. The bill is under 400 mil total. What was weird was the waiter took out his translator to ask me how much tip I was going to give? 10%, 15% or 20%. My friend said it was no unusual in Medellin but it is for me and I have been to the same restaurant before and was even in the same seat as last time.

To put it into perspective, a regular girl told me she earns 45 mil for working a 10 hours night shift. My cleaner is 70 mil to clean and wash everything in the apartment.Tipping is still not compulsory in Medellin. Maybe the waiter was bluffing, knowing you're not a local. The common question they will ask when you ask for the bill will be: would you like to tip in cash or include that in the total amount. If you choose the latter, they will charge a 10% tipping, if you prefer to pay in cash, you can decide how much you will tip. When they don't ask, usually in the fancier places, the 10% shows as part of the total amount, though mentioned in a separate line. I have ignored that "tip included amount" several times, when I'm not happy with the service or quality of what was served.

[Menteng]

Btw..I tell chicas in the barrios Im a chino paisa hasta la chimba hpta!!! :)I'm South East Asian and had lived in Medellin for about 10 years and still return there almost every year. That's how I earned that description LOL!

[Parasitius]

I went to a restaurant that I have been to before with a friend. The bill is under 400 mil total. What was weird was the waiter took out his translator to ask me how much tip I was going to give? 10%, 15% or 20%. My friend said it was no unusual in Medellin but it is for me and I have been to the same restaurant before and was even in the same seat as last time.

To put it into perspective, a regular girl told me she earns 45 mil for working a 10 hours night shift. My cleaner is 70 mil to clean and wash everything in the apartment.Absolutely bizzare to the point you should be enraged, it is scary because if these scumbags are allowed to prosper Medellin will turn into a hell on earth like Cancun. Please do not contribute to the corruption of this great city. I am happy to pay the service charge only for Colombians who are respectful enough to treat me like anyone else who eats there, not an opportunity to exploit.

Please consider giving 0, and since the tip was alceady on the bill for that, DEMAND they remove it. I have never removed it because I have never encountered scum like this. If they refuse to remove it, refuse to sign and email your credit card company to get a refund.

It is absolutely the extreme end of arrogance for a Colombian to do anything but the standard schpiel of "Do you wish to include the standard service charge?" (ALWAYS 10%, YOU DO NOT ALTER IT)

[NapataJohn]

Newbie on this forums but not a newbie when it comes to mongering.
Taxi or Uber?https://www.escapeartist.com/blog/no-dar-papaya/

[Gabacho]

I took this fare chart tonight. Maybe I am wrong, but I think it lists different price for different combination. That is where the discount coming from. Your Spanish is much better than mine, so maybe you can shed some light on what it is describing.The different prices are for the different types of cards. Look at the top row for example that is the row that will apply to most people using the metro system. If you have a tarjeta eventual (the old grey one but is now white) you pay 3280 pesos, if you have a personalized cared then you pay 2880. The lower rows are for different combinations of busses, tranvia, metro, etc. And the metrocable to go to parque arvi has a different price as well and isn't included in the fare for the Santo Domingo metro cable.

[Surfer500]

I took this fare chart tonight. Maybe I am wrong, but I think it lists different price for different combination. That is where the discount coming from. Your Spanish is much better than mine, so maybe you can shed some light on what it is describing.I don't know if my Spanish is any better than yours, and the chart is confusing but I did notice that if your a senior citizen you get a discount of something like 150 or 200 Pesos off the base fare, but I'm not sure how you get the discount. I'm assuming to get the discount your CIVICA card would have to be registered with your ID which they used to do years ago, and it might only apply to Colombian Citizens.

[Surfer500]

Absolutely bizzare to the point you should be enraged, it is scary because if these scumbags are allowed to prosper Medellin will turn into a hell on earth like Cancun. Please do not contribute to the corruption of this great city. I am happy to pay the service charge only for Colombians who are respectful enough to treat me like anyone else who eats there, not an opportunity to exploit.

Please consider giving 0, and since the tip was alceady on the bill for that, DEMAND they remove it. I have never removed it because I have never encountered scum like this. If they refuse to remove it, refuse to sign and email your credit card company to get a refund.

It is absolutely the extreme end of arrogance for a Colombian to do anything but the standard schpiel of "Do you wish to include the standard service charge?" (Always 10%, you do not alter it)I've never eaten anywhere in Medellin at a high end place where more than 10% has been asked for or already included in the bill. Unfortunately more of this is going to occur as more and more foreigners show up and people figure out how to squeeze them.

A perfect example of this happened to me two weeks ago. I met one of my Chicas at the Poblado Metro Station and we got in a yellow cab to go to a Hotel near Tesoro. I showed the driver the route on my phone and asked him to turn on the meter and he refused. He said the fare would be 20,000 COP so I told him that was insane and that I wasn't that dumb and got out of the Taxi and slammed the fucking door.

We got in another cab and the fare ended up being only 10,000 COP.

Moral of the story like you point out is don't put up with this shit.

However because things are so cheap here, a lot of times it's just chump change for many, and as much as this stuff pisses people off like you and I, can you blame them for trying to squeeze foreigners no different than other parts of the World.

[Surfer500]

Pueblito Paisa is a good option for guys who are here for only a few days at a time. Guatape is amazing but it takes a day out of your trip.Perhaps a disclaimer on Guatape as far as climbing the rock. There are guys here that have a hard time walking from the Poblado Metro Station up Calle 10 to Lleras. So there may be some who won't be able to make it up the rock as there are lots and lots of steps to climb at an elevation higher than Medellin.

[JjBee62]

Absolutely bizzare to the point you should be enraged, it is scary because if these scumbags are allowed to prosper Medellin will turn into a hell on earth like Cancun. Please do not contribute to the corruption of this great city. I am happy to pay the service charge only for Colombians who are respectful enough to treat me like anyone else who eats there, not an opportunity to exploit.

Please consider giving 0, and since the tip was alceady on the bill for that, DEMAND they remove it. I have never removed it because I have never encountered scum like this. If they refuse to remove it, refuse to sign and email your credit card company to get a refund.

It is absolutely the extreme end of arrogance for a Colombian to do anything but the standard schpiel of "Do you wish to include the standard service charge?" (ALWAYS 10%, YOU DO NOT ALTER IT)If the restaurant uses an electronic POS system, the 10% is put on automatically with an explanation that it's voluntary. There will be 2 totals. No need to demand anything, although talking to the manager is a good idea.

[Anthony2023]

Absolutely bizzare to the point you should be enraged, it is scary because if these scumbags are allowed to prosper Medellin will turn into a hell on earth like Cancun. Please do not contribute to the corruption of this great city. I am happy to pay the service charge only for Colombians who are respectful enough to treat me like anyone else who eats there, not an opportunity to exploit.

Please consider giving 0, and since the tip was alceady on the bill for that, DEMAND they remove it. I have never removed it because I have never encountered scum like this. If they refuse to remove it, refuse to sign and email your credit card company to get a refund.

It is absolutely the extreme end of arrogance for a Colombian to do anything but the standard schpiel of "Do you wish to include the standard service charge?" (ALWAYS 10%, YOU DO NOT ALTER IT)Nah you bugging, I always tip higher in Colombia, even in the states I tip more than the standard 20% for great service.

[Nil Admirari]

IMO Guatape is the only world class activity for tourists in the MDE area, although you can do any of the other stuff you mention if you want to fill up your day.
Food sucks in general.
The cheap restauraants dotted around town are terrible IMO - 20 different ways to serve the same handful of ingredients. But you can find a few great restaurants if you have the time to search them out? Which ones? - well, obvio depends on your budget. I like Govindas for day to day food, and I like Zaaika and Tabun for higher cost meals. I haven't been to any high end places for several years, so no comment on that..
To echo JustTK (second the motion), I'd agree that Guatape (both the town and the nearby rock formation, El Peon) is the only tourist destination within a one day, round-trip that qualifies as"not-to-be missed" even if one's on a brief vacation in Medellin. I also concur on the dining out options: I take a pass on the restaurants with typical Medellin fare (Bandeja Paisa, Mondongo, Arepas, etc]. At the high end, Colombian chef Juan Manuel Barriento's El Cielo in Miami, received the first ever Michelin star awarded to a restaurant in Florida. (Michelin doesn't rate Colombian eateries). I once splurged on his El Cielo in Poblado, and felt that it was overrated- (too heavy on the precious, presentation of small dishes). And I doubt one would find another Medellin restaurant that would merit Michelin awarding a star.

That said, as JustTK notes, one can find some great dining options--especially among those restaurants offering Nikkei (Peruvian / Japanese fusion), mariscos (sea food) or Italian cuisine. A few personal favorities (mostly In Laureles where I hang my hat when in town): for Nikkei try La Causa or Mitsura, for Italian--Carduff Pasta Fresca (owned by a Swiss Italian couple--black fetuccini with mariscos recommended), and Pan y Pomadoro; for seafood--Pescatori Pacfico, and in Manila,the upscale, somewhat pricey, Frutos del Mar.

To the newbies who wrote, do savor both the cuisine as well as the chicas.

[Sean EZ]

CUON in Poblado (Below Parque Lleras) has good reviews but I only liked the seared tuna there, did not like anything else. I don't think Colombia is yet a fancy dining destination. I like the moms and pops pastel de pollo and pastel de carne with potatos. These can be delicious as well as a beef soup, should be $2-5 USD. Medellin has many good steak places however!

I had several girls from the Park over the last few weeks that agreed to stay all night and leave at 5 AM. This has become ridiculous. If you have to pay $200-300 US dollars to keep them all night this isn't worth it anymore even compared to other countries in Europe or even US. I think for those who live here or are on longer stays, it's the key to meet girls outside of the tourist monger areas. There are many many girls and the city is big, it's good to have a good company to go out and meet them. (I used to go out alone to music clubs etc but no longer feel safe).

[Davvv100]

Seeking username: Mia.

Name: Ivana.

Age: 24.

Height: 5'3.

Link: https://members.seeking.com/member/8f8d99f5-76e9-4ce2-ae28-4dee38e8936f.

All right guys, I want to share this review with you guys just in case you are considering meeting this girl.

Intro:

I saw this girl's profile a year ago when I first arrived in the city, I sent her a message and she was asking for 500.000 at the moment. Following the advice of this forum, I declined to pay that much. I did not try to negotiate and she did not try to convince me. Now, I started seeing seeking girls again and this time I'm willing to pay a little bit more, every now and then, to meet really hot girls (let's not start a discussion about hotness). So I contacted her, this time she asked me 1. 1 M for all day. I say I just wanted to meet for a few hours and she quoted me $135 USD (around 600.000 COP) for a few hours. Looking at her pictures I was not 100% convinced it was worth it to pay that much. Her pictures were not very clear and she did not show her body like other girls. I asked for more pics of her face and she sent me a few videos. She looked al right but still. There was something bothering me. So I asked her to meet for a coffee and we would see from there but she did not even reply. My thought process was, this is the second time I reached her and she doesn't compromise. She is not willing to lower her price so she must be worth it. (Yeah, I know. Kind of stupid in hindsight.) A few days later I said fuck it, and made an appointment.

The date:

I requested her uber. She arrived and I went downstairs to welcome her. As soon as she got out of the car I knew I had made a terrible mistake. She was not only uglier than in the pictures but she was also wearing a cheap black dress. Even though the dress was black and loose around the waist I was able to see she had a belly. She looked like Betty la fea (a colombian soap opera) I did not know how to react. Is not the first time this has happened, it has happened with a few girls but girls but the difference between the pics and reality was not as big as this one, besides the other girls asked for 200.000. I greeted her and we went upstairs. We sat down and started to chat. She wanted to take a shower first and that's when I told her she looked very different from the pictures. She laughed and said this is the first time someone tells her that. She said it's ok, I just have to pay her and she will leave. I said I was going to pay her 200.000 for the 15 minutes she had been there but she wanted the $135 USD. I said no way, and she kept asking for the money, time after time. She was yelling and at some point she threatened to call her pimp or whatever. It's not that I didn't believe her, I just didn't give a fuck. So she called someone and I called the police. At this point she tried to grab my phone and I stood up quickly and pushed her. I was in fight or flight mode and I could feel my heart beating faster. I was so fucking angry but I calmed down, I told her to calm down and to sit down. She started crying and telling how hard this work is, blah, blah, blah. After 45 minutes I gave up. I had to find a way to get her out. I told her I would giver her 400.000 but we had to go to the ATM. She agreed. We walked to the ATM, I gave her the money and I headed back to my place.

I recorded the whole thing in a voice recording on my phone just in case.

Obviously, there are a lot of lessons to learn here:

First, listen to your gut, I knew something was weird with this girl and her pictures but I didn't listen.

Second, I'm going to start meeting girls for the first time at a public place. I stopped doing this after I met multiple girls at my place with zero issues but this is a good reminder that this stuff happens.

[AmorPorFavor]

CUON in Poblado (Below Parque Lleras) has good reviews but I only liked the seared tuna there, did not like anything else. I don't think Colombia is yet a fancy dining destination. I like the moms and pops pastel de pollo and pastel de carne with potatos. These can be delicious as well as a beef soup, should be $2-5 USD. Medellin has many good steak places however!

I had several girls from the Park over the last few weeks that agreed to stay all night and leave at 5 AM. This has become ridiculous. If you have to pay $200-300 US dollars to keep them all night this isn't worth it anymore even compared to other countries in Europe or even US. I think for those who live here or are on longer stays, it's the key to meet girls outside of the tourist monger areas. There are many many girls and the city is big, it's good to have a good company to go out and meet them. (I used to go out alone to music clubs etc but no longer feel safe).I took a date to CUON recently and we shared several dishes. I liked all the seafood plates a lot and only the costillas de cerdo that she wanted were just OK. The chef is the same Michelin star guy from Cielo but at lower prices. The interior and the service were excellent. Can't wait to go back.

[JustTK]

I was feeling nostalgic last night, so I went for mini-pub crawl t find some bars with alternative music. Went to All Bar in front of Univ de Antioquia, then I went to Yag'e Bar in Castilla, then I went to several bars in Pqe Periodista. Was a fun night. Lots of bohemian people hanging and being cool. No hassle from anyone. Envigado also has several alt music spots, esec near Buena Mesa. Some decent beers too.

Overall, the alternative music scene is pretty vibrant across toen, and the people that frequent those places seem down to earth types. Was fun.

[Gabacho]

I don't know if my Spanish is any better than yours, and the chart is confusing but I did notice that if your a senior citizen you get a discount of something like 150 or 200 Pesos off the base fare, but I'm not sure how you get the discount. I'm assuming to get the discount your CIVICA card would have to be registered with your ID which they used to do years ago, and it might only apply to Colombian Citizens.You don't have to be a citizen to get that. You have to go to the cliente al servicio offices (San Antonio or Acevedo) and take your passport book (I've used my passport card also) and you get the personalized card which they give you one for free they don't charge you like with the eventual card. And the personalized card will give you the discounted price on the metro (senior citizen price too if you qualify). It also gives you the option to use the metro on credit and will allow you to go negative on your card un to the value of one metro ride which is then deducted from the amount you reload it with the next time you reload it.

[DownLow123]

Saw the bloody fb girl I wrote in a previous post. Forgot what fb girl # I called her so I will call her FB girl #5. She showed up, I paid only for her taxi to me and back as she felt bad, she didn't finish the job last time. She cute, barely any make-up on. We talk about her son, my kid's blah blah blah, it's about 7-8 pm so we get things going. I didn't even get to put on reggaeton as the clothes started flying off. She started with a BBBJ, nice, she deepthroated a couple times, gagged. Ok, A for effort. I than put her on top of me and she rides me while holding my head up so I can watch, nice. She cowgirled for a good 15 minutes. I eventually flipped her doggy, nice ass while I was pounding. She can take a pounding as well. I watch for blood no blood yey! Flip her in missionary and finished all over her chest, she loved it. Gave me the good ol' mi gustas (I like you) as it slides down her chest.

We shower, talk a little and I told her I really respect her for coming to see me just for a taxi ride, she told me mi gustas and that she'the rather be a good friend than anything else. I think what she meant is that its more lucrative for her to give me this freebee and continue to see me for more money.

Me and a fellow Monger headed to Parque LLeras around 11 pm. Was a good time, we didn't partake, just sat at a bar and enjoyed the vibe. He mentioned it brings him back to his 20's, his parting days. I agreed it was a bit of nostalgia. We stayed for a couple of hours enjoying all the hotties, mind you I'm just coming off of a date so I was not looking to partake. After about 3-4 cervezas we ordered an uber and headed back. Walked about a half block to my Airbnb at 3:30 am but no one was out and I sprint walked, all was ok. Parque LLeras had a good vibe, as long as you're not flashing money and / or cell phones around. There was a cop on scene on a bike as well. I felt very safe, even at 2 am.

[DownLow123]

Met up with fb girl #1. Came over for a date, a pretty good one. BBBJ, only 5 minutes as she said something like "I want you inside" so I gave her what she wanted. Busted on the outside of her chocha as it was a close one pulling it out. After we took a shower, she took me to a place to shop for knock off designer shit.

She took me to the outskirts of El Centro, don't know if that was the best place around here but whatever. Tried on a few shirts, the chick told me the ones that she thinks look good on me and didn't. Went with her opinion because I have no fashion sense. Picked up a few shirts and a hat. After a few hours of shopping headed back to my casa. She mentioned she was hungry. So, I open Rappi, fuck it's not working for whatever reason. Told her lets walk around and look for a restaurant. She said OK. After walking in the opposite direction of unicentral for 5 minutes and not finding shit I told her lets just go to unicentral food court. She said OK. Was about a 15 min walk now.

While holding hands on the way, a woman stopped us and said something in Spanish to which my date responded "Gracias". Asked my date what she said, and she said the woman made a comment that we looked nice together. Ok, cool. So we get to Unicentral order some food and had a crazy intimate talk about why she does this, what it would be like to get married, what it would be like for us to get married blah blah blah. She begins pointing out all of the foreigners in the mall. Some I didn't really realize until I got a closer look. Food came, but she wanted to eat back at my place. Ok whatever. We walk back to my place. We both ate about half before we head back to the room.

Round two.

Longer BBBJ this time. Mi Gusta. Started in missionary, caliente, so flipped her on top. After she was sweating on me, I flipped her doggy. Got close after 15 minutes or so. I'm finding it harder to buss in my old age. Flip her back missionary and got her to orgasm which heated my dick up and came with her, almost inside her forgetting to pull out. (Maybe this is why she keeps talking to me about kids and shit) but I got like half in and half out (prey for me). Think she knew because she just covered her face blushing and smiling. Told her lets go take a shower and asked her to push if any got inside. She made the slightest fucking push anyone has ever seen. I just laughed and said "¿eso es todo? She laughed. I offered her the plan be pill a fellow monger gave me. I tried hard to get her to take it in front of me. But she wouldn't. Just kept making excuses but said she will take it later. (this girl trying hard for some child support). We spoke more intimate talk, after asked when I'm leaving told her when than she made me promise to come back. I promised. Her indriver finally showed up, end of date.

Was supposed to go parasailing with a fellow monger as it was one of his last days here before he heads back to the states. We ended up not going due to the weather. It was raining bad last Thursday which is why I went ahead with girl #1. Hanging out with fellow Mongers ALWAYS takes precedence before dates in my book.

[ChuchoLoco]

I was feeling nostalgic last night, so I went for mini-pub crawl t find some bars with alternative music. Went to All Bar in front of Univ de Antioquia, then I went to Yag'e Bar in Castilla, then I went to several bars in Pqe Periodista. Was a fun night. Lots of bohemian people hanging and being cool. No hassle from anyone. Envigado also has several alt music spots, esec near Buena Mesa. Some decent beers too.

Overall, the alternative music scene is pretty vibrant across toen, and the people that frequent those places seem down to earth types. Was fun.Probably spend too much time there and at all hours but I fit in even at my age. Never had a problem but don't like the taxis there so I walk down to I believe San Juan Blvd or another major street to get one. Nice mix of people enjoying Mother Nature and some beers and.

[Gabacho]

You don't have to be a citizen to get that. You have to go to the cliente al servicio offices (San Antonio or Acevedo) and take your passport book (I've used my passport card also) and you get the personalized card which they give you one for free they don't charge you like with the eventual card. And the personalized card will give you the discounted price on the metro (senior citizen price too if you qualify). It also gives you the option to use the metro on credit and will allow you to go negative on your card un to the value of one metro ride which is then deducted from the amount you reload it with the next time you reload it.Servicio al cliente*.

[TexasPistol]

Second, I'm going to start meeting girls for the first time at a public place. I stopped doing this after I met multiple girls at my place with zero issues but this is a good reminder that this stuff happens.I never meet anyone from seeking without a video chat first. There is no good reason to object to a three minute, normal, non-sexual video chat. I don't know much Spanish however I will be certain to include a question like "Como te llamas?" and get the correct response to prove it's not some sort of fake video clip. After a few bad experiences I have become very cynical about any Internet photos (including ones on normal dating sites). I assume that they are, shall we say, aspirational until proven otherwise.

[DownLow123]

Met a new fb girl, what is she fb girl #6? One of the hottest I've seen. We actually was working out at the same gym and didn't realize it until we saw each other on the date. The date was supposed to be for 11 am but of course like all paisa's she was running late. Didn't show up until 12:30 ish. I was supposed to meet another fellow monger for 1:30 pm so told her to hurry por favor. When she finally did show up she was stunning. Fake long eyelashes, long blonde hair, tiny nose, WOW. Not the hottest I've met but definitely in the top 3. So did my usual chill routine before the date. She has no kids, goes to school, just moved out on her own. She couldn't get off of the subject of me being a single father. She asked me every question inside and out about it. Like it's unheard of to her. After about 20 minutes of her chatting me up about parenting my kids alone, I finally take her to the bedroom.

Some kisses, than off came the clothes. BBBJ not bad, no deep throat so she lost points there but she was gentle and played with the boys so a 6/10 for her BBBJ skills. BBFS with milk outside the pussy. She closed her eyes suggesting to me she was imaging someone else fucking her. Ok no problem. Took her a good 5 minutes but she eventually got into it. Missionary and she started holding me down and speaking dirty in my ear. 10 minutes of missionary and I flipped her around for doggy. Almost busted so back to missionary to finish the deed. Somehow pulled out in time seeing how hot she was, and gave her the old milk grafitti on the outside of her chocha.

After the deed was done she took a shower and we chatted about (you guessed it) me raising my kids alone. She finally ordered herself an indriver after about 10 minutes of chatting with me. She's a very popular girl, her phone was going off the whole time she was with me, but she was respectful enough not to answer it. When she was in the shower I peeked at her phone (without touching it) as all her notifications were other guys trying to get at her. She had at least 12 or so unanswered messages just in our 45 min date. She's a really sweet girl, I can see why. I will definitely be seeing her again.

Met up with another fellow monger in el poblado. This guy been here for a few months. Cool cat. The first monger I met and wrote about flew back to the states today. So it's nice to meet another one. We hung out for about an hour or so, gained a lot of info from him and told him about my "meet the paisa's parents story. He was intrigued. After grabbing lunch with I headed back to my Airbnb.

Girl # 3 heads over and arrives around 9 ish. She's the sleepover one without asking. She has this little tube top on only covering her titties and this short dress with a thong underneath. I bought us some food via rappi which actually worked for us this time. She got to my spot around 9 pm. We ate together, but couldn't finish so she asked for us to acurrucarse (snuggle) while watching a movie. This girl holds you tight while snuggling, I like that so I told her lets go. 5 minutes into the movie I start to fall asleep. She caresses my face to wake up to watch the movie with her. Ok fine. Than she starts to fall asleep so I do the same to her, she laughs and pulled me away from the tv and put my arms around her. A few hours later I woke up to turn off tv. Of course, she wakes up, god forbid I fkin move. In the middle of the night I get the urge and try to get her in the mood, but she wasn't having it, kept putting my arm around her every time I moved it. We slept from 11 pm – 9 pm. It was nice. She woke me up by massaging my package. She took off her thong, the only thing she wears to bed with me. I thought finally, its go time. I notice I'm already ready to go with her just touching the fcking thing, so that messes up my blowjob. She lays on her side and I position myself behind her. Were both on hour sides and she does that thing with her leg to add extra pumping power and depth (if you know what I mean). I don't last but 7-8 minutes. FUCK! She's so tight. I tried to pull out but she was into it and kept it inside by holding my legs and backing up into me. Told her "Leche *****". She didn't give a damn. Managed to get a third out. (Again, pray for me).

We cuddled a bit more before going to take a shower. During the shower I told her to push it out. She did the best she can but doesn't like the sound it makes. Aw well ***** push! I thought. She's a sweet girl. She's a bit of the jealous type as she asks me every day ¿qué estás haciendo? I tell her what I'm doing and it's always "con una chica"? I either ignore or lie, or amplify as one time I said, "si, con todas las chicas conmigo debería abrir un centro commercial" Don't think it translate well into Spanish but she got the idea and laughed.

[Blitz33]

Met a new fb girl, what is she fb girl #6? .DownLow123 I've got to ask, how did you find these girls on FB? I've been in Bogota the last few months, coming to MDE next week; and I've mainly been using Tinder, with good success, but FB seems to be an even better acquisition source, and I'd love to know what FB groups or so did you use to find these women.

[Knowledge]

The Poblado Metro station and the area on la 10 near Dominos are notorious hotspots for the most abusive taxi ripoffs. There have been several newspaper and television press reports about it. It's gotten to be almost as bad as the US $100 beer and umbrella scams on the beach in Cartagena. It's too bad the buses are so uncomfortable because they are a convenient and low cost option. Uber and didi work but you have to wait. The key is to insist on the meter being turned on.


I've never eaten anywhere in Medellin at a high end place where more than 10% has been asked for or already included in the bill. Unfortunately more of this is going to occur as more and more foreigners show up and people figure out how to squeeze them.

A perfect example of this happened to me two weeks ago. I met one of my Chicas at the Poblado Metro Station and we got in a yellow cab to go to a Hotel near Tesoro. I showed the driver the route on my phone and asked him to turn on the meter and he refused. He said the fare would be 20,000 COP so I told him that was insane and that I wasn't that dumb and got out of the Taxi and slammed the fucking door.

We got in another cab and the fare ended up being only 10,000 COP.

Moral of the story like you point out is don't put up with this shit.

However because things are so cheap here, a lot of times it's just chump change for many, and as much as this stuff pisses people off like you and I, can you blame them for trying to squeeze foreigners no different than other parts of the World.

[Turgid]

....After a few bad experiences I have become very cynical about any Internet photos (including ones on normal dating sites). I assume that they are, shall we say, aspirational until proven otherwise.My rule of thumb is to imagine her 7 years older and without makeup.

[Surfer500]

Servicio al cliente*.Your losing your Spanish skills, major language blunder. LOL.

This is good information, I think I might qualify for the "senior discount" METRO card.

With that being said, I'll see if I can get it.

If so, I think I'll save about 200 Pesos each time I use the METRO.

So I could kind of look at this as though after I've ridden the METRO about twenty times, I'll be able to partake in a Centro SW courtesy of the METRO.

It' almost like many years ago getting a card punched at a Pizza place where you get a free pizza after you've bought so many.

[Turgid]

..... I told her she looked very different from the pictures. She laughed and said this is the first time someone tells her that. She said it's ok, I just have to pay her and she will leave.......I can't help feeling you were scammed. Suggestions? Video call prior.

[JjBee62]

Seeking username: Mia.

Name: Ivana.

Age: 24.

Height: 5'3.

Link: https://members.seeking.com/member/8f8d99f5-76e9-4ce2-ae28-4dee38e8936f.

All right guys, I want to share this review with you guys just in case you are considering meeting this girl.

Intro:My thoughts.

1. Find your price range. Whether you're comfortable with 40 k, 400 k, or 1 million, stick to your range. It's okay to splurge on occasion, but you need to verify in advance that what you get is what you expect.

2. Meeting in a public place for a minimal amount is a good idea. If a girl resists meeting in this way it's likely she knows she won't live up to your expectations.

3. Have an escape route. When you saw the girl and realized it was a mistake, a good escape plan could have minimized the unpleasantness. Show up wearing a mask and tell her you have Covid and can't see anyone, pay her a reasonable amount and send her away. Diarrhea makes a good excuse as well. Or pull a Colombiana move. Tell her your brother was in an accident and you are waiting for news.

4. Bottom line: Never take someone to your room if you don't want to do anything with them in your room.

[Surfer500]

To echo JustTK (second the motion), I'd agree that Guatape (both the town and the nearby rock formation, El Peon) is the only tourist destination within a one day, round-trip that qualifies as"not-to-be missed" even if one's on a brief vacation in Medellin..Another overlooked tourist destination which is more for Colombians that can be done in one day is partaking in a "DIA de sol", meaning a day of sun in and around Santa Fe De Antoquioa and San Geronimo.

There are a lot of hotels with nice swimming pools and you pay an entrance fee of anywhere from about 60,000 to 80,000 COP per person to use the facilities including lunch. And some of the facilities also have wet and dry Saunas as well.

No more than about 4 hours travel time roundtrip or less by bus from the Caribe Station.

Actually a shorter trip than to Guatape, and what's nice it can be very hot there, and is a perfect day trip with a Chica.

They love hanging by a pool in a slinky bikini and sipping on beers.

[Surfer500]

Probably spend too much time there and at all hours but I fit in even at my age. Never had a problem but don't like the taxis there so I walk down to I believe San Juan Blvd or another major street to get one. Nice mix of people enjoying Mother Nature and some beers and.Parque Periodista is also known as "Stoners Park" that nobody has seemed to mention yet.

You literally won't see anyone sitting in the park without at least one of the following, a joint in one hand, a beer in one hand, some white powder being sniffed, and / or other stuff as well.

It can be a fun place kind with a "beatnik" atmosphere at times.

And if you play the guitar and are good you will get a lot of attention and might find a stoned hippe chick to bang there.

[AmorPorFavor]

Seeking username: Mia.

Name: Ivana.

Age: 24.

Height: 5'3.

So I guess all her SA pics were completely fake? Not even her? Lots of deceptive pics on her profile. Always a red flag. No pic of face with body and a few heavily filtered face shots. Now her profile says she's in Playa del Carmen. Girls have very high pricing there and its an expensive place compared to MDE. Did your apartment have security? That would help you to be able to call them, after you made friends with them of course. Its always a good idea to bring some small amount of cash down with you to meet them, like 100 m. When she got out of the car and you did not like what you saw you can give her the 100 and say no gracias and beat it. I've done it and its a lot better situation than letting them into your apartment.

[Evx69]

I'm trying to figure out if I should go to Medellin this week. The weather says it's raining in the evening this whole week, but I thought it always rains in Medellin. Google said the weather was like this last week as well. I know you can't predict it, but for anyone that has been in Medellin for a while now, do you think this weather would stop people from going on? I'm just concerned the nightlight wouldn't be that good in this weather.

[AmorPorFavor]

Another overlooked tourist destination which is more for Colombians that can be done in one day is partaking in a "DIA de sol", meaning a day of sun in and around Santa Fe De Antoquioa and San Geronimo.

There are a lot of hotels with nice swimming pools and you pay an entrance fee of anywhere from about 60,000 to 80,000 COP per person to use the facilities including lunch. And some of the facilities also have wet and dry Saunas as well.

No more than about 4 hours travel time roundtrip or less by bus from the Caribe Station.

Actually a shorter trip than to Guatape, and what's nice it can be very hot there, and is a perfect day trip with a Chica.

They love hanging by a pool in a slinky bikini and sipping on beers.Santa Fe de Antioquia looks cool. Can or have you used Uber to get there and back? You can likely get Uber to go there but I'm concerned about getting one back. I won't be taking the bus. Google says its only 1 hour each way?

[DownLow123]

DownLow123 I've got to ask, how did you find these girls on FB? I've been in Bogota the last few months, coming to MDE next week; and I've mainly been using Tinder, with good success, but FB seems to be an even better acquisition source, and I'd love to know what FB groups or so did you use to find these women.FB is exclusive to Medellin here in Colombia.

I got my FB strategy from this forum, though I do things a bit differently my way, you can still find all the how-to's in this forum. You just have to read and follow the advice of past mongers who were successful with it.

[Gabacho]

Your losing your Spanish skills, major language blunder. LOL.

This is good information, I think I might qualify for the "senior discount" METRO card.

With that being said, I'll see if I can get it.

If so, I think I'll save about 200 Pesos each time I use the METRO.

So I could kind of look at this as though after I've ridden the METRO about twenty times, I'll be able to partake in a Centro SW courtesy of the METRO.

It' almost like many years ago getting a card punched at a Pizza place where you get a free pizza after you've bought so many.Nah not at all bro. Ni madres. I was just tired I'm back in pussy prison working 13 hour shifts minus 30 min lunch saving up money for my next trip LOL.

[BlueChange]

Seeking username: Mia.

Name: Ivana.
. Its always a good idea to bring some small amount of cash down with you to meet them, like 100 m. When she got out of the car and you did not like what you saw you can give her the 100 and say no gracias and beat it. I've done it and its a lot better situation than letting them into your apartment.Yeah I call that key money. Like in real estate when you pay a tenant to just leave rather then dealing with courts and then wrecking your place and time wasting not having a new tenant.

[TexasPistol]

My rule of thumb is to imagine her 7 years older and without makeup.That's best case. I had one girl in the DR whose photos were all stolen from a well known Mexican porn star. However if you screen them with a good, realistic few minute long video chat, you will find women with 100% authentic photos. It's probably about 10%.

[Surfer500]

Santa Fe de Antioquia looks cool. Can or have you used Uber to get there and back? You can likely get Uber to go there but I'm concerned about getting one back. I won't be taking the bus. Google says its only 1 hour each way?I have used an UBER once but to only go to San Geronimo which if there is no traffic only takes an hour with Santa Fe being another 1/2 hour away. When the UBER driver arrived he wanted to cancel the ride but I told him I would pay the tunnel fare both ways so he took us. Also, besides the bus they have collectivos that run from the bus station and it really isn't that bad. Another option is to hire a yellow taxi at the Caribe bus station or in Santa Fe or San Geronimo as getting an UBER I don't think is an option from there. I think the taxi's were asking around 250,000 Pesos each way. So you might try getting an UBER to take you and a taxi returning. And the bus ride or collectivo ride isn't that bad as it's a two lane divided road they have been working on for the last decade, so it's not like a one lane road in each direction where people can't pass and can be really slow like it used to be. And it's cheap like around 30,000 COP each way. I personally have been on the bus to other parts of the Country and don't recommend using them except to the Santa Fe area or Guatape as they can be a nightmare. And although Google might say Santa Fe is an hour away, the issue is the traffic getting out of the City and getting back in the afternoon. Therefore I would figure at least two hours to get back to Medellin. If you just want to hang by some pools for the day and not do any sight seeing in Santa Fe I would suggest San Geronimo as it's closer and there are a bunch of places to spend the day.

Hopefully this helps.

[Surfer500]

The Poblado Metro station and the area on la 10 near Dominos are notorious hotspots for the most abusive taxi ripoffs. There have been several newspaper and television press reports about it. It's gotten to be almost as bad as the US $100 beer and umbrella scams on the beach in Cartagena. It's too bad the buses are so uncomfortable because they are a convenient and low cost option. Uber and didi work but you have to wait. The key is to insist on the meter being turned on.Yep in and around Lleras and Provenza the taxi cab drivers are having a field day because there are a lot of tourists who are staying in Poblado and don't know how cheap the taxi's can be if the meter is used, or are wasted and don't want to argue over being double charged or more, or just don't give a shit and pay. Lots and lots of gringos who are residents and live here use Uber as basically if your a foreigner the cab drivers and especially late at night will try hosing the foreigners and I suspect the Colombians as well but to a lesser degree.

[Paulie97]

I requested her uber. She arrived and I went downstairs to welcome her. As soon as she got out of the car I knew I had made a terrible mistake. She was not only uglier than in the pictures but she was also wearing a cheap black dress. Even though the dress was black and loose around the waist I was able to see she had a belly. She looked like Betty la fea (a Colombian soap opera) I did not know how to react. Is not the first time this has happened, it has happened with a few girls but girls but the difference between the pics and reality was not as big as this one, besides the other girls asked for 200.000. I greeted her and we went upstairs. We sat down and started to chat. She wanted to take a shower first and that's when I told her she looked very different from the pictures. She laughed and said this is the first time someone tells her that. She said it's ok, I just have to pay her and she will leave. I said I was going to pay her 200.000 for the 15 minutes she had been there but she wanted the $135 USD. I said no way, and she kept asking for the money, time after time. She was yelling and at some point she threatened to call her pimp or whatever. It's not that I didn't believe her, I just didn't give a fuck. So she called someone and I called the police. At this point she tried to grab my phone and I stood up quickly and pushed her. I was in fight or flight mode and I could feel my heart beating faster. I was so fucking angry but I calmed down, I told her to calm down and to sit down. She started crying and telling how hard this work is, blah, blah, blah. After 45 minutes I gave up. I had to find a way to get her out. I told her I would giver her 400.000 but we had to go to the ATM. She agreed. We walked to the ATM, I gave her the money and I headed back to my place. Of course you realized the mistake right away when she got out of the car so shouldn't have invited her inside. For first time with a girl I meet them outside of a Love Motel. On the rare occasion that she's way different from the photos I cover her transportation costs plus a little more. She of course was quite unreasonable when she demanded full payment without providing service, and only did this because she had leverage, was in your place where she could make a scene and draw complaints from the other guests or tenants. I'm surprised she gave up this leverage by walking with you to the ATM. You must have convinced that was your plan for payment after the session.

But I never invite a hooker to where I sleep no matter how long I've know them. And yes they can cause trouble at a Love Motel as well but there they have less leverage.

Thanks a lot for sharing. These issues come up occasionally thus these reports and discussions are useful.

[DownLow123]

Girl # 3 left around 11 am or so from the overnight I wrote about in last report. After she left I got dressed and headed to Parque Botero, wanted some pics of the statues. Still a barrier around with law enforcement selecting who they let through. I than walked about 30 minutes north of Parque Botero and began to get uncomfortable. Was trying to get to some shopping district in the area, but as I continued walking (well past where they do the motorcycle repair out in the open) there were less and less people and more and more graffiti on the store walls which left me feeling more and more sketchy. Eventually I said fuck this and turned around and headed back for Parque Botero. Not to mention I had to pull out my phone for google maps every 10 minutes or so (it's a Colombia burner) but still I don't like targets on my back.

I notice just outside of the park they had a lot of shops set up. A lot (and I mean A LOT) of shops were selling used phones under the bridge just outside. Stolen monger phones? Hmmm. I was tempted to buy one just to see, but choose not to, even though they were cheap enough. I spent a good 4 hours walking around outside the park checking out the 100's of shopping tents they had. I bought some knock off designer shit, 3 hats, a couple more shirts, a Jordan wallet which looked cool. A little hidden sleeve pops out of it if you pull it in the right area, Cool. That costed me 25 k. The hats were 45 k each. LV, Gucci, and a fake tommy Hilfiger hat. Eh, no one in the states will know the difference (giggity). Was looking for shit for my wife and kids back home but had a hard time finding clothes for the kids. It's either baby shit or adult shit in el centro. Going to take a date with me Monday as she knows the exact place that sells the clothes I'm looking for. But that's for Monday's report. Really enjoyed my time off from sex and girls which allowed me some alone time to just think. I thought a lot about a convo me and a fellow monger had Friday about folks who moved to Colombia full time, some glad they moved and some whom moved back to the states, and some in between. I get the move down here as a man, unlimited sex with 10's after a simple text. But the convo with the fellow monger was more than that and we tried to get deep down into the cons and pros. At the end of the day, you have to really enjoy the culture and what Colombia has to offer as there are many cons I. E. Constantly watching your 6, disallowing you to be comfortable in your own home (due to scopolamine) etc etc. I also thought about home and the kids and began to feel a bit home sick. This was the first time, probably because I didn't have my cock stuffed inside some paisa's pussy or mouth.

I think this is a really cool topic for the board, pros and cons of moving to Colombia full time as a man.

I get back around 5 ish, right before it starts to rain (Gracias rain gods, I will sacrifice the hair of a paisa as I pull some out getting it doggy style in your name rain god.).

About 10 I meet a new fb girl. She's been getting at me since the beginning of the trip but just never had time to pull the trigger. Well tonight I had her come by. She looked young so told her to bring her cedula. Si amor. Of course, it's some excuse how she forgot it when she arrives. I grill her a bit about her age. She doesn't seem like the extort type, so said fuck it and went on with my pre date routine. After routine and some jaja's we get to the bedroom. She was really inexperienced. I said FUCK. But she already had my dick in her hand so fuck it, I had to lead her, for everything. BBBJ sucked. Hard pulling best describes it. Even after me leading her. But finally get hard, not 100% but just enough to please the rain gods so flip her over doggy. It barely fits in. No blood so she's not a virgin at least. Whew. I start to turn it up and pound a little harder and she moves her ass away from me in a way she doesn't want to be pounded. OMFG this chick is not 18 I thought. After flipping her over for missionary I grab my phone for google translate and ask "Do you like 50 shades of gray" I get a "No entiendo" (I had to do something for self-entertainment) I laughed hard inside. Before I go limp we go missionary. Ugh, a star fish. Just laying there looking at me. I wanted to say ***** what are you looking at. Than I slowed down so I don't feel like I'm raping the poor girl. Took a good 30-40 minutes to finish.

After the deed she asks (Wait for it) Tu gusta Amor? I almost lost my shit! But just to get her out I said si, estas lista para taxi ahora? As she's still dressing. Order her taxi, she tells me she has a friend for a threesome if I want. I thought yea that's going to happen. Her taxi showed up about 10 minutes later, yey. It's a little after 11 pm and I'm done for the day. All I want to do is get some sleep without a numb arm for a night.

[AmorPorFavor]

Yeah I call that key money. Like in real estate when you pay a tenant to just leave rather then dealing with courts and then wrecking your place and time wasting not having a new tenant.Yeah but with girls in MDE it only costs you $10 to get rid of them pronto.

[JjBee62]

The Poblado Metro station and the area on la 10 near Dominos are notorious hotspots for the most abusive taxi ripoffs. There have been several newspaper and television press reports about it. It's gotten to be almost as bad as the US $100 beer and umbrella scams on the beach in Cartagena. It's too bad the buses are so uncomfortable because they are a convenient and low cost option. Uber and didi work but you have to wait. The key is to insist on the meter being turned on.I used to always walk down to the line of raxis in front of Parque Poblado. Less scammed there.

Also always make sure the meter is reset.

[MoonShot]

There's definitely a lot more happening in Poblado. There are more clubs, bars and restaurants. I probably have seen more gringos in the first hour walking around Poblado than in 5 days in Laureles. My last trip was spent entirely in Laureles and I do miss Poblado. A lot more of the service staff also speak English here in Poblado. The gringos are almost all Americans based on the accent that I'm hearing. I do see some attractive street walkers in Poblado as opposed to none in Laureles. There are also a lot of young gringos hang out here. I like the layout of some of the bars here in Poblado. I continued just to see Facebook girls so I can't tell you about the quality of the girls at the bars or walking the streets. I do see that one advantage is that they are here already so you don't have to pay a transport cost and you don't have to wait on them. That is definitely a benefit. Also you get to check them out in person.

I still have a few days here in Medellin but my trip is coming to a close. So far I have been having a good time and have not been drugged or robbed yet but there are still a few days left. I was even staying in an Abnb with no security for a few days. I would not recommend that for newbies.

[Gabacho]

About 10 I meet a new fb girl. She's been getting at me since the beginning of the trip but just never had time to pull the trigger. Well tonight I had her come by. She looked young so told her to bring her cedula. Si amor. Of course, it's some excuse how she forgot it when she arrives. I grill her a bit about her age. She doesn't seem like the extort type, so said fuck it and went on with my pre date routine. After routine and some jaja's we get to the bedroom. She was really inexperienced. I said FUCK. But she already had my dick in her hand so fuck it, I had to lead her, for everything. BBBJ sucked. Hard pulling best describes it. Even after me leading her. But finally get hard, not 100% but just enough to please the rain gods so flip her over doggy. It barely fits in. No blood so she's not a virgin at least. Whew. I start to turn it up and pound a little harder and she moves her ass away from me in a way she doesn't want to be pounded. OMFG this chick is not 18 I thought. After flipping her over for missionary I grab my phone for google translate and ask "Do you like 50 shades of gray" I get a "No entiendo" (I had to do something for self-entertainment) I laughed hard inside. Before I go limp we go missionary. Ugh, a star fish. Just laying there looking at me. I wanted to say ***** what are you looking at. Than I slowed down so I don't feel like I'm raping the poor girl. Took a good 30-40 minutes to finish.

After the deed she asks (Wait for it) Tu gusta Amor? I almost lost my shit! But just to get her out I said si, estas lista para taxi ahora? As she's still dressing. Order her taxi, she tells me she has a friend for a threesome if I want. I thought yea that's going to happen. Her taxi showed up about 10 minutes later, yey. It's a little after 11 pm and I'm done for the day. All I want to do is get some sleep without a numb arm for a night.If there is ever any doubt as to a girl's age (especially if she's saying she is 18) you should always, and I cannot stress this enough, always ask to see her cedula.

You should have either insisted she go back and get it or had declined her service. Not sure what type of hotel or airbnb you are staying at but most hotels will demand to see a cedula especially if there is any doubt as to the chica's age.

[Mr Enternational]

I told her she looked very different from the pictures. She laughed and said this is the first time someone tells her that. She said it's ok, I just have to pay her and she will leave. I said I was going to pay her 200.000 for the 15 minutes she had been there but she wanted the $135 USD. I said no way, and she kept asking for the money, time after time. She was yelling and at some point she threatened to call her pimp or whatever. It's not that I didn't believe her, I just didn't give a fuck. So she called someone and I called the police. At this point she tried to grab my phone and I stood up quickly and pushed her. I was in fight or flight mode and I could feel my heart beating faster. I was so fucking angry but I calmed down, I told her to calm down and to sit down. She started crying and telling how hard this work is, blah, blah, blah.Well bich first of all YOU chose this work. Then you have the nerve to be trying to catfish people while charging too much damn money. Maybe if you were honest about yourself then the work would not be so hard. Or just maybe you could get a normal job instead of doing this "hard" work.

[Mr Enternational]

I don't remember much as I was high as a kite and just passed out with one of my last thoughts "ok well if you guys are going to kill me know, I'm ready after that".

I passed out around 1-2 am. Don't know about her. She kept hogging the blankets and my feet kept getting cold so I kept waking up fighting for the blanket.

Her alarm goes off for 5 am. WTF I thought. She says we have to go as my dad needs to bring you back early. I was dressed in about 0. 1 secs. She sat up from the bed and I was already dressed standing next to the door ready to go. She commented how I didn't enjoy the stay. I replied I did, its just that I'm cold way up in these mountains and want to go back to mi casa for a warm shower (my Airbnb has hot water). She says ok.

Wow! You can't make this shit up.

What an amazing experience that I lived through!

Moral of the story, don't go meeting no girls' parents.Looks like I am an outlier on this one. I have been meeting chicks around the world online for the last 25 years and this is the type of adventure and experience that I live for. I have tons of these great stories and I have not been killed yet. (I remember going to a funeral in bum fuck Valle del Cauca (over 2 hours from Cali on the bus) with some chick whose cousin and friends got mass murdered in some drug trafficking shit.) You will not remember the third chick that you fucked in Colombia but you are going to remember this chick forever and probably remain friends with her for a long time.

[TjBrazil]

A lot of mistakes by the previous poster. Number one, if you are using seeking or tinder, it's a 20.00 meet you for coffee fee. That's a lot of money in Medellin to just have coffee and take Uber. If she says no way, she wants the whole 125 to 150 bucks, you walk. Don't get attached to these pictures on a screen. Delete her immediately. No negotiation. Second, if you like her in person you can take her to a hourly place to avoid being drugged in your hotel. Only bring girls to your hotel that you have slept with or slept with in a casa or strip club. Even then you have to have a good feel for the girl. I have never had a problem with a Colombian girl coming to my hotel after sleeping with them. I know if we vibed or not. Only in Tijuana can you have an unknown escort come to your hotel and not worry about it. The reputable agencies have done the work for you. Colombia and Brazil is No Way Jose on a stranger from the internet coming in your room. Follow those rules and you should be fine.

[Sean EZ]

I think the best advice I can give to any punters new and experienced ones about the girls from Parque Llleras and the surrounding clubs, especially with the Vennies, maintain control of the situation. The minute they are in your room you have to take control of the situation and show them you are in charge. Many will get on the phone or start checking their messages half of the evening or start doing their Tusi thing, so be polite but firm and put them in their place. It's a way women test men and you have to show that you can control them. Then they melt for you. You don't want a situation where she is sucking your dick while text somebody or checking her Instagram story. It reminds me of a scene in one American movie where a prostitute was smoking out the window while checking her watch. Some of these girls come from the schools of the hard knocks and the lowest backgrounds straight from the streets, especially the Vennies can be disgusting, you will notice them spitting and acting like street dogs.

If you don't want everything covered discuss everything up front. If you ask her to stay overnight, be specific about the time in the morning. Sometimes you will meet a nice and young paisa but for the most part I advice you to establish who's in control and what the expectations are and you will have a more fun experience.

[SureMan]

Hi.

I am trying to book Hotel Dorado.

I am using Agoda as they have cheapest rate.

It's 37 dollars over night.

I go thru everything then it adds the 19% tax.

What advice on this can anyone give.

First time using Agoda.

It's for May 2ND to May 8TH.

Sureman.

[MoonShot]

It is sound advice to take a girl the first time to a short time hotel. I would not disagree with that. But I feel that if you stay in a hotel or Airbnb with security, it should be fine. I like being in my hotel room because it is comfortable and I have already paid for it. This is my fourth trip and I have always taking the girls back to my hotel room. So far, there have been no problems and nothing is missing from my room. It is true that it is more risky than taking her to a short-term hotel but there are a lot of benefits to having sex in your room. It's just a more relaxing environment for you. I also have snacks and drinks for the girls in my hotel room. But I am not a big fan of drinking with the girls. There is no reason to have an open bottle or drink in your glass laying around where there is the possibility the girl can put something in your drink when you are not looking or in the bathroom. I just drink from a bottle of water from the refrigerator where I have several bottles of water on the shelf.

I also like to screen out girls on Facebook. With a girls postings on Facebook, you can get a general idea of the type of girl she is. I'm usually suspicious of a Facebook profile set up exclusively for business.

I would agree that the safest path is seeing girls at the casas. No way that the girls are robbing or drugging you at the casas because they have a reputation to protect. Hotel M and taking girls from their bar is also a safe bet because hotel M knows who the girls are at the bar.

There are ways to stay safe be in Medellin and decrease the probability of being drugged and robbed. You just have to be aware of your surroundings and not take excessive risks.

I would also warn guys about underaged girls. They are on the streets and on line. The possibility of being in prison and the consequences always makes me very paranoid about making sure that the girl can prove that she is 18. That is one of the advantages of staying in the hotel that checks ID. The hotel also does not want underaged girls in the hotel so they will reject identification cards that look fake. You may be a bit sad but it is better for you that you are not seeing that girl. If you were to take that girl to a short-term hotel, they will not check her identification card.

Stay safe and have fun. I'm still in Medellin now and so far things are going well without any problems. I'd like to try to keep it that way.

I did meet a few guys from ISG and everyone seems cool. I have not met any of the flamers on ISG.

[Surfer500]

Hi.

I am trying to book Hotel Dorado.

I am using Agoda as they have cheapest rate.

It's 37 dollars over night.

I go thru everything then it adds the 19% tax.

What advice on this can anyone give.

First time using Agoda.

It's for May 2ND to May 8TH.

Sureman.Only Colombians and Colombian residents are required to pay the 19% tax, IVA.

For a foreigner with a Passport, the Hotel will look in your Passport at the entry stamp to verify you were issued a "tourist visa" , and based on that you are exempt and should not have to pay the 19% and it should be refunded and or not charged.

Up until January of this year the 19% VAT had been waived since the Pandemic. I also think some Hotels might collect the 19% tax, make photo copies of the foreigners Passport and date of entry stamp as proof for DIAN "the Colombian IRS " and pocket the money from unsuspecting tourists.

Regardless, if your a foreigner and your Passport stamp identifies you as entering on a tourist visa your exempt from paying the 19% IVA.

This also holds true for purchases you make in the Country and bring home, but I don't know the rules about this, but do know there is a tax refund office at the Rio Negro airport where you present your documentation and are issued a refund, but again I don't know how it works there, but have seen the office there.

I'm sure there are other board members here who know more about this.

[Nounce]

If there is ever any doubt as to a girl's age (especially if she's saying she is 18) you should always, and I cannot stress this enough, always ask to see her cedula...If the girl can't produce the actual cedula, one can always get the cedula number and a digital copy to check the police report online. At least you will know the cedula exists.

[Nounce]

...... though I do things a bit differently my way, .... You just have to read and follow the advice of past mongers who were successful with it.Would you mind sharing so I can be half as successful as you. 😂

[ChuchoLoco]

Parque Periodista is also known as "Stoners Park" that nobody has seemed to mention yet.

You literally won't see anyone sitting in the park without at least one of the following, a joint in one hand, a beer in one hand, some white powder being sniffed, and / or other stuff as well.

It can be a fun place kind with a "beatnik" atmosphere at times.

And if you play the guitar and are good you will get a lot of attention and might find a stoned hippe chick to bang there.I did mention it by the use of Mother Nature but it's a very old term and obviously not known or used now. Cool that you go and enjoy the place too. I rarely see other Gringos there at night but during the day there may be a few. Probably my go to place rather than Botero or Poblado but that's just me. I'm a joker, I'm a smoker, I'm a midnight toker. Like everywhere, it's best to keep your guard up and not get too blasted.

Yes, if you play the guitar, you will be a guitar hero!

[ChuchoLoco]

Saw girl number one. Still my fav and my 3rd or 4th time seeing. She has black hair with blonde streaks, green emerald eyes (first Columbiana I saw with light eyes, normally it's brown eyes) about 5-2.

We met a few hours before her class started. She was telling me she starts an internship here pretty soon, good for her! She takes her studies serious, I like that about her. We sit chat about our little fight we had a few days ago, (why I haven't seen her for last 3 days) we hug and make up and realize it was just a big misunderstanding. After some small talk in the kitchenette area we move to the bedroom. No music this time just straight to business since she still has to shower and prepare for her classes coming up.

BBBJ, she's really gentle and played with the boys, ok nice. She worked for a solid 10 minutes even after I was clearly ready for the main entry, NICE! Start in missionary as she tells me this is her fav position. Pumping away for a good 10 minutes before she realizes I'm caliente. She flips me on my back and take over. 10 minutes and now she's sweating all over me. I look at her and we both laugh so I flip her doggy. 5 minutes and I just can't buss.Sorry but the danger was all in your mind. You probably have never been or seen a poor neighborhood anywhere and in Medellin it is the norm. By the way, it is very unusual for a girl to take a stranger to meet the family. She must have really liked you! Families are reserved for close friends and real boyfriends. Not sure why she would have taken you to meet them unless they asked you for a new washer or refrigerator. I'm sure that it was a culture shock but you experienced what most never will and in the end, you are better for it.

[XXL]

Hi.

I am trying to book Hotel Dorado.

I am using Agoda as they have cheapest rate.

It's 37 dollars over night.

I go thru everything then it adds the 19% tax.

What advice on this can anyone give.

First time using Agoda.

It's for May 2ND to May 8TH.

Sureman.Agoda is notorius for playing such games. Beware of the currency trick too.

[Gabacho]

If the girl can't produce the actual cedula, one can always get the cedula number and a digital copy to check the police report online. At least you will know the cedula exists.From what I understand the police can look up cedula numbers with their little hand held devices that look like cellphones and they often do just that when they stop people in public and ask them for their numero de cedula. I think various hotels have a way of looking them up as well, however the information online doesn't have a picture, just the cedula number name gender and date of birth. Therefore this isn't a foolproof plan Nounce, as it is is possible she could give you the cedula number belonging to a friend, sister, cousin, etc and without a picture there would be no way for you to know whether that cedula belongs to her or not.

Best bet is to have her bring her cedula and then look at it yourself and make sure she checks out. If she really did forget it, go back and get it, if she wants the money that bad she'll go get it. And if she was lying about forgetting it and doesn't have it, well that is a red flag.

[Paulie97]

Hi.

I am trying to book Hotel Dorado.

I am using Agoda as they have cheapest rate.

It's 37 dollars over night.

I go thru everything then it adds the 19% tax.

What advice on this can anyone give.

First time using Agoda.

It's for May 2ND to May 8TH.

Sureman.Just walk in. Odds are very high they will have rooms unless some huge concert is in town. If booked there's plenty of other similar choices nearby. Medellin hotels typically will take less than the best rates on booking sites. Offer them around $30 in the local currency and take it from there. Of course balk if they try to charge the tax. Good luck.

[LoveItHere69]

Hi.

I am trying to book Hotel Dorado.

I am using Agoda as they have cheapest rate.

I go thru everything then it adds the 19% tax.

What advice on this can anyone give.This will help so you can see the prices listed up front from the start.

Far right icon with black triangle.

Go down to Settings and select the money image.

Choose "Total Price per night".

I have seen this in other countries. Sometimes it applies to you and sometimes it does not but they will try to get you to pay it. Pay it for a night or two and then renegotiate that tax (what ever it is).

[Turgid]

Sorry but the danger was all in your mind. You probably have never been or seen a poor neighborhood anywhere and in Medellin it is the norm. By the way, it is very unusual for a girl to take a stranger to meet the family. She must have really liked you! Families are reserved for close friends and real boyfriends. Not sure why she would have taken you to meet them unless they asked you for a new washer or refrigerator. I'm sure that it was a culture shock but you experienced what most never will and in the end, you are better for it.Us older punters would never experience that. If you're young, white, blond with blue eyes I think she'd be happy to take you to her folks.

[The Cane]

Us older punters would never experience that. If you're young, white, blond with blue eyes I think she'd be happy to take you to her folks.I had a young, white, blonde Colombiana take me to meet her family that lived near Medellin. I myself was neither young, blond, nor blue eyes. That's not what it takes to be every Colombiana's "principe azul", not even the white ones. Believe this.

[ChuchoLoco]

Us older punters would never experience that. If you're young, white, blond with blue eyes I think she'd be happy to take you to her folks.I am an older white guy and I speak from experience. I have been invited to meet the family and remain friends with them. Doubtful it was love. Most likely an opportunity to have an older benefactor or something.

Also met the friends and their families and they all lived in very poor neighborhoods that you'the never see a Gringo in and nobody ever bothered me and I was never scared.

Don't seek yourself short my friend. People respond to genuine personalities and my studying Spanish and Latin American Affairs with a degree in both at the age of 60 helped I'm sure.

[DownLow123]

Looks like I am an outlier on this one. I have been meeting chicks around the world online for the last 25 years and this is the type of adventure and experience that I live for. I have tons of these great stories and I have not been killed yet. (I remember going to a funeral in bum fuck Valle del Cauca (over 2 hours from Cali on the bus) with some chick whose cousin and friends got mass murdered in some drug trafficking shit.) You will not remember the third chick that you fucked in Colombia but you are going to remember this chick forever and probably remain friends with her for a long time.


Sorry but the danger was all in your mind. You probably have never been or seen a poor neighborhood anywhere and in Medellin it is the norm. By the way, it is very unusual for a girl to take a stranger to meet the family. She must have really liked you! Families are reserved for close friends and real boyfriends. Not sure why she would have taken you to meet them unless they asked you for a new washer or refrigerator. I'm sure that it was a culture shock but you experienced what most never will and in the end, you are better for it.You guys are both right. It is my first time in a foreign country, alone. So the experience scared the shit out of me. But after surviving it I do now realize what ya'll mean about how powerful the experience was. Your right, I will never remember some of the chicks I fucked here in Colombia but I will ALWAYS remember her and the experience. Absolutely mind blowing. To say the least. Yes she is my best friend here in Colombia. Even a fellow monger noticed her texting me while we were hanging out. He couldn't believe how much she text's me in a day. Shit, I can't either.

[DownLow123]

If there is ever any doubt as to a girl's age (especially if she's saying she is 18) you should always, and I cannot stress this enough, always ask to see her cedula.

You should have either insisted she go back and get it or had declined her service. Not sure what type of hotel or airbnb you are staying at but most hotels will demand to see a cedula especially if there is any doubt as to the chica's age.Got it. They can easily extort us.

[ChuchoLoco]

You guys are both right. It is my first time in a foreign country, alone. So the experience scared the shit out of me. But after surviving it I do now realize what ya'll mean about how powerful the experience was. Your right, I will never remember some of the chicks I fucked here in Colombia but I will ALWAYS remember her and the experience. Absolutely mind blowing. To say the least. Yes she is my best friend here in Colombia. Even a fellow monger noticed her texting me while we were hanging out. He couldn't believe how much she text's me in a day. Shit, I can't either.Great attitude DownLow! Your first time alone in another country and you're off to a great start. Like I said, she really must like you to take you home to the family. Good man. But please keep your guard up and keep your excellent attitude. It's always good to have friends. They usually last longer than lovers. Maybe she's a keeper but that's your decision.

[DownLow123]

I say the bloody girl fb girl #3? (I would have to go back and check what girl is the bloody one) As I promised her I would see her again before my trip ends. She's the one that gave me a freebie last time due to her bleeding during out session the 1st time seeing her. She's a sweet girl who is trying to open her own business. She get to my spot a little after 3 pm. We have really good convo despite the language barrier. Never a dull moment with her. In fact we fight over the phone to hit the button on google translate so we can speak to one another. We talk for a good 30-45 minutes than off to business. Reggaeton on and clothes off.

She gives a good BBBJ as last time. She tries to deepthroat, gags A for effort. I slightly push her off and she immediately hops on top, I didn't even have to ask, nice. She goes to town on me for a good 10 minutes with some mi gusta, tu gusta? Si bby mi gusta que rica and she goes nuts after this, she puts it in deep and does what I call the pendulum swing where my cock is literally grinding her cervix, cliterous and walls all at the same time. She's sweating on me and I tell her that I don't want to leche yet. She slows down and I throw her on her back for missionary. I pop about 5 minutes later all over her chest. She looks at me and asks te gusta? I look at her and think (what you think as my babies are running down her chest). Si bby, te gusta I say with a smirk.

She gets dress and we talk about our kids and I tell her I want to buy my kids some shit. Told her my first amiga friend (girl # 1) took me to the wrong place. She said she knows a place to take me. Said bet. So were supposed to hang out Monday for some shopping.

I only seen her today as I wanted to take a break. Got caught up on a lot of reports. Thought about some good times with a fellow monger who left back to the states last Friday. Weird, I miss hanging out with the dude. Part of me feels alone again.

I'm getting more homesick. Thinking about how much of a hoe I am and I want a break from sex. My prostate must be screaming at me by now.

Until the next report.

[DownLow123]

Would you mind sharing so I can be half as successful as you. 😂Game is what I do different. I practiced the art of pick up for years back in the states. I'm good at dropping little seeds in there mind in fb msgs then coming back days or weeks later to water that seed until there almost dying to see me. I hack there mind in a way to make them think Damn I want to see him so bad AND I get paid for it! So when I drop a (I'm in Medellin location share at the airport) my phone lights up like the 4th of July. They all have an itch to see "who is this guy" and think "I'm getting paid for this" type of mind set.

[MoonShot]

Game is what I do different. I practiced the art of pick up for years back in the states. I'm good at dropping little seeds in there mind in fb msgs then coming back days or weeks later to water that seed until there almost dying to see me. I hack there mind in a way to make them think Damn I want to see him so bad AND I get paid for it! So when I drop a (I'm in Medellin location share at the airport) my phone lights up like the 4th of July. They all have an itch to see "who is this guy" and think "I'm getting paid for this" type of mind set.For you older mongers out there I'm going to give you this comment. I am an older monger in my late '50's, average looking, with probably very little game but a good amount of money. I come here on short vacations and I have a great time and I would say that my experiences with young attractive girls 18 to 21 have been very good. If you're just a nice guy with money to spare, there are plenty of young attractive girls interested in making sure that you will have a good time.

[Knowledge]

I thought I was checking the Medellin forum of ISG and I find myself on Stormfront. WTAF.

[Iguana Six]

What is the name of the love hotel in Laureles? The one that is very new, very sophisticated? Futuristic? Build like a fortress on the outside, but looks like a parking structure on the inside? ? You can walk in or drive in, get a room assigned and up you go.

I am not sure, but was the name "Hotel the?

[TjBrazil]

Game is what I do different. I practiced the art of pick up for years back in the states. I'm good at dropping little seeds in there mind in fb msgs then coming back days or weeks later to water that seed until there almost dying to see me. I hack there mind in a way to make them think Damn I want to see him so bad AND I get paid for it! So when I drop a (I'm in Medellin location share at the airport) my phone lights up like the 4th of July. They all have an itch to see "who is this guy" and think "I'm getting paid for this" type of mind set.You practice pick up on hookers. I practice for marathons in my car. LOL.

[Surfer500]

I have seen this in other countries. Sometimes it applies to you and sometimes it does not but they will try to get you to pay it. Pay it for a night or two and then renegotiate that tax (what ever it is).It's a tax levied on Colombians and Colombian residents called IVA of 19%. Foreign visitors on a tourist Visa are exempt from having to pay this upon showing them their Passport and entry stamp upon checking in. This is something that needs to be addressed upon checking in, not afterwards.

[Surfer500]

I am an older white guy and I speak from experience. I have been invited to meet the family and remain friends with them. Doubtful it was love. Most likely an opportunity to have an older benefactor or something.

Also met the friends and their families and they all lived in very poor neighborhoods that you'the never see a Gringo in and nobody ever bothered me and I was never scared.

Don't seek yourself short my friend. People respond to genuine personalities and my studying Spanish and Latin American Affairs with a degree in both at the age of 60 helped I'm sure.Conceptually I still struggle in a good way with the fact that the acceptance of age is very different here than in the USA.

Simply put, the thought of a 60 year plus man with someone 1/2 or 1/3 their age would be considered repulsive to many in the USA, where here, generally speaking, not the case at all.

The culture is so different here, and you, myself, and others have experienced what you have described contrary to what others may think.

[Surfer500]

From what I understand the police can look up cedula numbers with their little hand held devices that look like cellphones and they often do just that when they stop people in public and ask them for their numero de cedula. IThe police do have hand held devices as you mention, typically green, and about mid-size between a small tablet and a cell phone as you describe. I've seen the Police in and around the Poblado Metro station and along Calle 10 at times. There will always be two policemen that are armed. I've watched on several occasions the Police ask people for their Cedula number, they enter it, and if nothing pops up, they are immediately on their way.

However, if a Colombian has some type of an infraction, warrant, or whatever on their record than I suppose they might be detained and / or arrested, hence two policemen.

My advice to guys here is to always carry a photo copy of your Passport page and date of entry stamp with you at all times and leave your Passport in your safe where your staying.

If you get stopped and they ask where your passport is, tell them it's in your safety deposit box, "caja de seguridad" and upon showing them copies of the documents mentioned they will send you on your way. Once one asked, I told them my Passport was in my security box if they wanted to go with me I would gladly show it to them and they laughed, were very polite and professional and just smiled and said have a nice day upon showing them the photocopies.

[Mingle2023]

I am pretty much like you. I like to take the girl to my hotel room rather than fuck on site or short time hotel.

I am planning my first trip to Columbia and it seems Medellin is the place to visit first.

Can you give me some feedback where to meet young freelancers? Which bars? Night clubs? Which facebook pages?

Thank you in advance.


It is sound advice to take a girl the first time to a short time hotel. I would not disagree with that. But I feel that if you stay in a hotel or Airbnb with security, it should be fine. I like being in my hotel room because it is comfortable and I have already paid for it. This is my fourth trip and I have always taking the girls back to my hotel room. So far, there have been no problems and nothing is missing from my room. It is true that it is more risky than taking her to a short-term hotel but there are a lot of benefits to having sex in your room. It's just a more relaxing environment for you. I also have snacks and drinks for the girls in my hotel room. But I am not a big fan of drinking with the girls. There is no reason to have an open bottle or drink in your glass laying around where there is the possibility the girl can put something in your drink when you are not looking or in the bathroom. I just drink from a bottle of water from the refrigerator where I have several bottles of water on the shelf.

I also like to screen out girls on Facebook. With a girls postings on Facebook, you can get a general idea of the type of girl she is. I'm usually suspicious of a Facebook profile set up exclusively for business.

I would agree that the safest path is seeing girls at the casas. No way that the girls are robbing or drugging you at the casas because they have a reputation to protect. Hotel M and taking girls from their bar is also a safe bet because hotel M knows who the girls are at the bar.

There are ways to stay safe be in Medellin and decrease the probability of being drugged and robbed. You just have to be aware of your surroundings and not take excessive risks.

I would also warn guys about underaged girls. They are on the streets and on line. The possibility of being in prison and the consequences always makes me very paranoid about making sure that the girl can prove that she is 18. That is one of the advantages of staying in the hotel that checks ID. The hotel also does not want underaged girls in the hotel so they will reject identification cards that look fake. You may be a bit sad but it is better for you that you are not seeing that girl. If you were to take that girl to a short-term hotel, they will not check her identification card.

Stay safe and have fun. I'm still in Medellin now and so far things are going well without any problems. I'd like to try to keep it that way.

I did meet a few guys from ISG and everyone seems cool. I have not met any of the flamers on ISG.

[Mingle2023]

I am planning my first trip to Columbia.

What is the best way to meet chica online?

Thanks in advance.


Looks like I am an outlier on this one. I have been meeting chicks around the world online for the last 25 years and this is the type of adventure and experience that I live for. I have tons of these great stories and I have not been killed yet. (I remember going to a funeral in bum fuck Valle del Cauca (over 2 hours from Cali on the bus) with some chick whose cousin and friends got mass murdered in some drug trafficking shit.) You will not remember the third chick that you fucked in Colombia but you are going to remember this chick forever and probably remain friends with her for a long time.

[Anthony2023]

(giggity). Was looking for shit for my wife and kids back home .You have a wife back home? Wtf what did I miss. Do you mind me asking do you have an open relationship? Because otherwise how are you away this long in another country without raising red flags?? Not trying to be in your business but just curious. Couldn't be me, I'the feel like a Pos if she didn't know.

Anyways I'm landing later tonight, probably won't post till back in the states. Too much fun to be had to be posting or even logging in on here when I'm there.

[DownLow123]

You have a wife back home? Wtf what did I miss. Do you mind me asking do you have an open relationship? Because otherwise how are you away this long in another country without raising red flags?? Not trying to be in your business but just curious. Couldn't be me, I'the feel like a Pos if she didn't know.Got cheated on by wife gave me two options. Divorce and wreck havoc in my kids life or come to Colombia to get even? I choose the latter. As far as excuses go, you have to use your imagination. When theirs a will theirs a way.

[DownLow123]

Great attitude DownLow! Your first time alone in another country and you're off to a great start. Like I said, she really must like you to take you home to the family. Good man. But please keep your guard up and keep your excellent attitude. It's always good to have friends. They usually last longer than lovers. Maybe she's a keeper but that's your decision.Thanks! Seems like we'll remain close friends even when I go to the states, I'll keep her on my burner phone at work.

[DownLow123]

You practice pick up on hookers. I practice for marathons in my car. LOL.Thats too funny.

[Nounce]

What is the name of the love hotel in Laureles? The one that is very new,...I think you can google for Ibiza to see if that is what you are looking for. There are two of them. One in Laureles.

[Nounce]

From what I understand the police can look up cedula numbers...g.You are right it is not fool proof. It is a tool that maybe useful in some occasions. The public web site will show only name and cedula number. That is enough to see if the cedula exists before meeting the girl. Many of them don't try to hide and will have no cedula and cedula number.

[Nounce]

Game is what I do different. I practiced the art of pick up for years back in the states....I guess that is reflected in your writing too? I was thinking you have a different method of selecting girls. Thank you for your reports.

[Mr Enternational]

Simply put, the thought of a 60 year plus man with someone 1/2 or 1/3 their age would be considered repulsive to many in the USA, It is only repulsive when the man has no money or is not famous.

[MoonShot]

I was reading my post about game and I thought that some may think it was a flame in the guy but it was not meant to be. I just meant that you don't need game to meet and have fun with attractive girls in Medellin. There are a lot of attractive girls who have young fit boyfriends or guys they hang out with whom they have a lot of fun. These girls are not looking for another boyfriend, they would like to make some money with you. They already have young guys they party with But those guys don't give them money. So they are looking for gringos who are willing to pay them a fair amount of money for sex and they are more than willing to do that but they do prefer guys who are not abusive, rude, smelly, or cranky. What is more important to them than looks or charm is that you are a nice guy who is willing to pay them a fair amount for the sex.

So for you older guys you do not have game, you can still have a good time. Just take a shower, be nice to the girls and try to not be so serious. They will want your business and you will have a good time.

This is my last night in Medellin so I will try to make the best of it. I have some plans that seem like it would be a lot of fun but I don't want to jinx it by telling you what it is. But the best laid plans of mice and Men often go astray.

[MoonShot]

Got cheated on by wife gave me two options. Divorce and wreck havoc in my kids life or come to Colombia to get even? I choose the latter. As far as excuses go, you have to use your imagination. When theirs a will theirs a way.I didn't get cheated on but the marriage was going downhill. I just bit the bullet and got divorced even with small kids. It does not actually have it on your kid's life if you have a good shared custody arrangement. It has been 10 years now and life has been good. But I understand the concern about how we would affect the lives of your kids. I have never regretted that divorce. One of the best decisions I have made in my life. The past years with these attractive women overseas has been amazing.

[MoonShot]

I am pretty much like you. I like to take the girl to my hotel room rather than fuck on site or short time hotel.

I am planning my first trip to Columbia and it seems Medellin is the place to visit first.

Can you give me some feedback where to meet young freelancers? Which bars? Night clubs? Which facebook pages?

Thank you in advance.A common response is always read the past 30 pages of this thread. I'm just chilling now in my hotel room in Medellin so I have a few minutes. There are freelancers who walk around Poblado near park Lleras. There are also some well-known nightclubs for freelancers inside. I have no personal experience with these girls because I have stuck exclusively to Facebook girls and I have been quite happy with them. There is no Facebook page where there is a listing of young attractive freelancers. Instead you have to go through the process of finding and being friends with girls on Facebook who are in Medellin.

Here and there on this thread guys have mentioned some techniques so I'm not going to repeat them. But I will give you a short summary. Find a few girls on Facebook who are located in Medellin and then from there look at who their friends are and then ask to be their friends and keep going. I will actually give you a name of not a real girl but a name that is very common with a lot of girls in Medellin. That is the name Luisa Fernanda. There must be at least 15 girls with that name who are in Medellin and likely willing to have sex for money with you. So start with that name and go from there. You willing to go through the time and effort a few weeks before your trip, you will have a few Facebook girls to see.

How will you know they are freelancers? Well, if she is young and attractive and you are not in her league but she is interested in meeting with you, she is interested in pay for play.

[LoveItHere69]

It's a tax levied on Colombians and Colombian residents called IVA of 19%. Foreign visitors on a tourist Visa are exempt from having to pay this upon showing them their Passport and entry stamp upon checking in. This is something that needs to be addressed upon checking in, not afterwards.I mentioned other countries. Many hotels or their employees will add fees or taxes that do not exist to make money. At check-in he should try to get whatever service fee or tax removed. He will most likely never get anything accomplished online or on the phone before he gets there. If he really wants to stay there he may have to "eat" the cost for a night or two before changing hotels.

But if you want to get all anal retentive:

Colombia VAT, which is known as the IVA tax, is the country's main indirect tax, which is collected by DIAN.

The IVA tax refund can be requested at the Direcciand de Impuestos why Aduanas Nacionales (DIAN) office in any international airport in the country.

In Medelland, the DIAN office is located in the Jos Mara seerdova airport to the left of the Avianca check-in. According to staff in this office, DIAN at the airport is staffed 24 hours a day every day. But late at night this office may be closed when they rarely have clients. But you can ask the airport information to call DIAN and they will send someone from their office downstairs, which is staffed 24 hours.

All purchases eligible for a tax refund must have been paid for in-person with a debit or credit card. Cash payments for purchases are not eligible for the tax refund.

[DiscoverFL]

I am pretty much like you. I like to take the girl to my hotel room rather than fuck on site or short time hotel.

I am planning my first trip to Columbia and it seems Medellin is the place to visit first.

Can you give me some feedback where to meet young freelancers? Which bars? Night clubs? Which facebook pages?

Thank you in advance.First time? Just go stay an the Mansion, learn the ropes and great girls to choose from.

[Surfer500]

I mentioned other countries. Many hotels or their employees will add fees or taxes that do not exist to make money. At check-in he should try to get whatever service fee or tax removed. He will most likely never get anything accomplished online or on the phone before he gets there. If he really wants to stay there he may have to "eat" the cost for a night or two before changing hotels.

But if you want to get all anal retentive:

Colombia VAT, which is known as the IVA tax, is the country's main indirect tax, which is collected by DIAN.

The IVA tax refund can be requested at the Direcciand de Impuestos why Aduanas Nacionales (DIAN) office in any international airport in the country.

In Medelland, the DIAN office is located in the Jos Mara seerdova airport to the left of the Avianca check-in. According to staff in this office, DIAN at the airport is staffed 24 hours a day every day. But late at night this office may be closed when they rarely have clients. But you can ask the airport information to call DIAN and they will send someone from their office downstairs, which is staffed 24 hours.

All purchases eligible for a tax refund must have been paid for in-person with a debit or credit card. Cash payments for purchases are not eligible for the tax refund.Excellent information to be aware of for others who are making purchases in Colombia and want to get the 19% collected by DIAN at the time of purchase paid by all Colombians. But I doubt many would mess around trying to get the 19% they paid on a couple of bags of coffee upon leaving the Country. LOL.

[Dcrist0527]

I was reading my post about game and I thought that some may think it was a flame in the guy but it was not meant to be. I just meant that you don't need game to meet and have fun with attractive girls in Medellin. There are a lot of attractive girls who have young fit boyfriends or guys they hang out with whom they have a lot of fun. These girls are not looking for another boyfriend, they would like to make some money with you. They already have young guys they party with But those guys don't give them money. So they are looking for gringos who are willing to pay them a fair amount of money for sex and they are more than willing to do that but they do prefer guys who are not abusive, rude, smelly, or cranky. What is more important to them than looks or charm is that you are a nice guy who is willing to pay them a fair amount for the sex.

So for you older guys you do not have game, you can still have a good time. Just take a shower, be nice to the girls and try to not be so serious. They will want your business and you will have a good time.For a myriad of reasons, us mongers complicate things too much. What MoonShot said should be given to new and veteran mongers. Whether you are young or old, good looking or dumpy, you will reach way beyond your league with his advice. Be clean, be respectful, be smart but fair with your donations and you will find great rewards in Medellin. Or be sweaty, have bad breath, treat them like working girls or argue over a 10 k taxi ride, then wonder why the girls never seem to be into you. The choice is yours.

[Mr Enternational]

If the restaurant uses an electronic POS system, the 10% is put on automatically with an explanation that it's voluntary. There will be 2 totals. No need to demand anything, although talking to the manager is a good idea.I am at a restaurant now. As you said they added a 10% tip and a long explanation at the bottom of the bill saying that if you want to change it then just tell the server.

[TjBrazil]

Thats too funny.The pua world seems exhausting. I watched a few interviews with a famous PUA named Paul Janka. He did day game in New York. You can see his old videos on you tube. He said his closing rate was 5% and that is considered good in the pua world. And he was good looking and graduated from Harvard. He could have just paid for it like us and saved the aggravation. I can't imagine anyone of us lazy asses on this board hitting on 100 regular girls a day in the US. LOL.

[CeeJay1]

Got cheated on by wife gave me two options. Divorce and wreck havoc in my kids life or come to Colombia to get even? I choose the latter. As far as excuses go, you have to use your imagination. When theirs a will theirs a way.Just curious, with considering your experiences in Medellin, will you be finished getting even or will you continue to exercise the latter option to get even in Colombia? Or are you completely rethinking your options?

[Turgid]

I am an older white guy and I speak from experience. I have been invited to meet the family and remain friends with them. Doubtful it was love. Most likely an opportunity to have an older benefactor or something.

Also met the friends and their families and they all lived in very poor neighborhoods that you'the never see a Gringo in and nobody ever bothered me and I was never scared.

Don't seek yourself short my friend. People respond to genuine personalities and my studying Spanish and Latin American Affairs with a degree in both at the age of 60 helped I'm sure.Ok, so I really just have to speak for myself then. I have mongered in Europe, the whole of the western hemisphere and Asia for many decades and I have never had a working girl invite me to meet her parents. I have met some outside of their work environment but was never invited home. I have been invited, though, by civilians who did not know of my hobby.

[Sean EZ]

It is only repulsive when the man has no money or is not famous.100%. There is no better answer. In EU / UK people don't care as much for some reason about the age gap.

[PepolesBuddy]

To all the turds that are paying for webcam models, pay for their time just to meet you and no sex, or just over paying in general.

Stop it, and move on. Keep your pimp hand strong!

[Surfer500]

I didn't get cheated on but the marriage was going downhill. I just bit the bullet and got divorced even with small kids. It does not actually have it on your kid's life if you have a good shared custody arrangement. It has been 10 years now and life has been good. But I understand the concern about how we would affect the lives of your kids. I have never regretted that divorce. One of the best decisions I have made in my life. The past years with these attractive women overseas has been amazing.You actually might be an exception compared to others as to how things might of turned out if you had been in an ugly divorce which seems to be more the case.

The impacts financially are one thing, and can be horrendos, but the emotional and psychological damage to the children can be far worse.

I'm going to bet, that some here, might agree that the best thing they got out of being married where children, at least that's my personal experience being married and divorced with two children.

[Iguana Six]

What is the name of the love hotel in Laureles? The one that is very new, very sophisticated? Futuristic? Build like a fortress on the outside, but looks like a parking structure on the inside? ? You can walk in or drive in, get a room assigned and up you go.

I am not sure, but was the name "Hotel the?Correction: I believe it was the Hotel "the".

I am trying to find the hotel's website and address.

[Nounce]

... Which facebook pages?....You can start here.


Facebook for newbies.

[ColombiaLover]

Of course the key is in determining the "fair amount. " It's like when the Democrats say that "rich" people need to pay their "fair share. " Don't be a sucker and assume that what they ask for is "fair. " Maybe it's fair to them, but not fair to you based on the market. I agree that they want a nice guy who will not hurt or abuse them. Especially if there is a good possibility of repeat business. The more you chase after a hardened pro, the more attitude you get, the more you'll be asked to pay, and, in some cases, the lower the quality of sex will be. My best, most economical girls are those who are new or only part-time or who are non-pros who don't really ask for anything at all (although I always offer them something for "sus cosas".


What is more important to them than looks or charm is that you are a nice guy who is willing to pay them a fair amount for the sex.

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[Anthony2023]

I decline and take Visa but best transation fee that I found.

Fuck Davivienda! I spent almost an hour at the bank asking them to return my 1. 000.000 mil they stole form my bank but not spit money out. I checked "Decline banks exchange rate" and said the transaction was successful but did not spit any money at me. I have capital one so called them and the transaction went through on there end and the rep said the ATM should have gave you money. After using google translate with some manager at the Davivienda bank almost an hour did they tell me they will credit the account but my take 7-10 bussiness days. Still recieved no answer why ATM did that. I'm not the only one, other people have been scammed a couple years ago by same bank. Careful of Davivienda bank.

https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=833733So after a late arrival I decided to call it a night after davivienda cancelled a 1 million transaction I requested. I almost requested 2 mil. The good thing is it gave me a receipt saying transaction not received. But my account still shows pending the money subtracted from my account, hopefully it will be back in my account when I wake up, so I don't have to make a phone call, but yeah fuck davivienda, I was going to go get something to eat and maybe pick up a chick or just get some numbers at lleras bar or gustos but I think this was a sign to call it a night, so I did. Not only that but I forgot my burner iPhone at the airport smh. Hoping someone leaves it at the lost and found. I think I just need some sleep, been up past 24 hrs. Only slept a bit on the plane. Hopefully tomorrow is a better day.

[Mtndew704]

So after a late arrival I decided to call it a night after davivienda cancelled a 1 million transaction I requested. I almost requested 2 mil. The good thing is it gave me a receipt saying transaction not received. But my account still shows pending the money subtracted from my account, hopefully it will be back in my account when I wake up, so I don't have to make a phone call, but yeah fuck davivienda, I was going to go get something to eat and maybe pick up a chick or just get some numbers at lleras bar or gustos but I think this was a sign to call it a night, so I did. Not only that but I forgot my burner iPhone at the airport smh. Hoping someone leaves it at the lost and found. I think I just need some sleep, been up past 24 hrs. Only slept a bit on the plane. Hopefully tomorrow is a better day.Damn you traveling from the west coast? A friend of mine left his debit card in an ATM at the airport once. Went back the next day and was able to get it back from security.

[Nounce]

You actually might be an exception compared to others ....Assume you are married for one year with a kid and is the sole earner, it is probably unwise to wait for the sake of the child because the divorce settlement could be lifetime vs less than 1 year once you pass the time threshold depending on states. You are digging a hole that becomes deeper and deeper as you get older. On the other hand, if you have already passed the time threshold or are wealthy enough, then waiting does not have the same issue as in a shorter marriages, let's say less than 10 years.

[VsebudetNY]

You are right it is not fool proof. It is a tool that maybe useful in some occasions. The public web site will show only name and cedula number. That is enough to see if the cedula exists before meeting the girl. Many of them don't try to hide and will have no cedula and cedula number.Even if chica shows you the physical cedula it's not guaranteed that it's real and / or it's hers. I was chatting with one FB girl for months and couldn't arrange cita because she had only contrasena. My building is requiring only original cedula or passport and they're checking it scanning barcode with the app on the phone. One day she told me that she got her original cedula and we arranged the cita. She arrived and front desk called me and said they won't let her in because the cedula is fake. When I later asked them what was wrong they told me that original cedula was issued to a MAN with different name. I know for sure that she's not underaged, so I don't know what her intentions were to use the fake cedula, but couple of my friends had her and that cedula passed "inspection" in Energy Living and couple other places. I also know at least 2 chicas that were using their older sister's cedulas and were banging gringos at 16 and 17 and one that is 18 already but didn't get her cedula yet and using her friend's cedula.

P.S. It reminds me of the "perfect" ID (from the states though).

[Surfer500]

Assume you are married for one year with a kid and is the sole earner, it is probably unwise to wait for the sake of the child because the divorce settlement could be lifetime vs less than 1 year once you pass the time threshold depending on states. You are digging a hole that becomes deeper and deeper as you get older. On the other hand, if you have already passed the time threshold or are wealthy enough, then waiting does not have the same issue as in a shorter marriages, let's say less than 10 years.Yeah a one year old versus a 12 year old makes a world of difference when parents divorce. I went thru this when divorcing with two teenagers at the time, and there are "scars" in the sense of very bad memories my children haven't been able to completely get beyond due to errors by both me and my ex-spouse. And marriage length his huge, but everybody goes a different route as to handle if and when to divorce. And I remember working and meeting guys going thru a divorce who had children, and I remember a sports event with my daughter at around 12 years old at a Park where a couple were going thru a divorce and fighting in front of their kids and other parents. Some really ugly stuff goes on and my bet is there are several others who can attest to this.

Fast forward to one year after I divorced about twenty years ago and I show up at the Del Rey in San Jose Costa Rica on my maiden mongering foray.

Oh my god, what a fucking eye opener that was. Not only the women who worked there at the time, but how many guys where showing up there who were in the throes of divorce. And after sampling the Colombians there for a year I finally started coming here!

[MoonShot]

So after a late arrival I decided to call it a night after davivienda cancelled a 1 million transaction I requested. I almost requested 2 mil. The good thing is it gave me a receipt saying transaction not received. But my account still shows pending the money subtracted from my account, hopefully it will be back in my account when I wake up, so I don't have to make a phone call, but yeah fuck davivienda, I was going to go get something to eat and maybe pick up a chick or just get some numbers at lleras bar or gustos but I think this was a sign to call it a night, so I did. Not only that but I forgot my burner iPhone at the airport smh. Hoping someone leaves it at the lost and found. I think I just need some sleep, been up past 24 hrs. Only slept a bit on the plane. Hopefully tomorrow is a better day.I had the same thing happened to me. ATM transaction unsuccessful but my bank emails me that the money was withdrawn. Don't worry about it. It gets corrected in the end but you may have to inform your bank. When I got home, the money was still withdrawn from my bank account. I emailed my bank and they said they would look into it and temporarily gave me back the money. After a week or so, I got another email saying that the money credit was permanent and all is well.

[MoonShot]

Even if chica shows you the physical cedula it's not guaranteed that it's real and / or it's hers. I was chatting with one FB girl for months and couldn't arrange cita because she had only contrasena. My building is requiring only original cedula or passport and they're checking it scanning barcode with the app on the phone. One day she told me that she got her original cedula and we arranged the cita. She arrived and front desk called me and said they won't let her in because the cedula is fake. When I later asked them what was wrong they told me that original cedula was issued to a MAN with different name. I know for sure that she's not underaged, so I don't know what her intentions were to use the fake cedula, but couple of my friends had her and that cedula passed "inspection" in Energy Living and couple other places. I also know at least 2 chicas that were using their older sister's cedulas and were banging gringos at 16 and 17 and one that is 18 already but didn't get her cedula yet and using her friend's cedula.

P.S. It reminds me of the "perfect" ID (from the states though).This trip I had a 17-year-old girl who told me that she had her cousins identification card and they look alike. She has already been seen a number of gringos. I told her I would wait for her to turn 18 because I don't want any trouble. Another girl told me that she could bring her sister's cedula. Well, at least the girls are honest enough to tell me that they are not 18.

[MoonShot]

I have had a number of guys on this website who ask me for the names of some of my favorite Facebook girls in Medellin. These are my thoughts about that type of request from anonymous strangers who I have never met.

It takes me a lot of time and effort to find the type of girls that I am interested in. Then there is trial and error in seeing these girls and some are good and some are not. Over four trips, the girls who are good to me end up on my list of favorites. After each trip, I am back on the hunt looking for new girls when I am home for my next trip.

So basically guys want the results of all this time and effort in exchange for me basically nothing more than thanks bro.

So there's not a lot in it for me to share this type of information but I have done so for guys that I have actually meet on the ground who are struggling with Facebook girls and for my real friends in exchange for some meals and drinks. It is not about the money but some appreciation for my assistance.

And I also have exchanged info with other guys for equivalent info. That to me would be a fair exchange.

Those bareback 18 year old girls aren't a dime a dozen so when I do find her, I think you can understand my hesitation on sharing her name with anonymous strangers on this website.

Maybe some guys think that I am selfish and we should share and share like. But to me, sharing means an equal exchange of information.

But I freely share information about logistics about traveling to Medellin on this website.

[Mr Enternational]

You actually might be an exception compared to others as to how things might of turned out if you had been in an ugly divorce which seems to be more the case.

The impacts financially are one thing, and can be horrendos, but the emotional and psychological damage to the children can be far worse.There is no reason for 2 adults not to come to an amicable decision. Instead people would rather be greedy and make the lawyers rich. Then some people just do not know any better. I was talking to a coworker the other day that paid a lawyer $115,000 when she got a divorce. Her ex took her to court on contempt charges and she paid even $7,000 more for the lawyer to show up to court with her. I tried to explain to her how she was out of her mind and could have done it her damn self but she insisted she needed to be ripped off. My divorce only cost me the $55 it was to file the initial petition.

Emotional and psychological damage only happens when people have jackazzes for parents. When my mom and dad got divorced my dad still came to see me and my brother everyday when he finished work. The only difference for us was that he did not sleep there. My dad has been remarried for almost 40 years but he still goes to some events on my mom's side of the family even when she does not go and my mom still goes to events on my dad's side of the family.

A couple days ago I turned 51 and me, my mom, dad, and brother went to lunch and my mom paid for it all. My mom and have have always known that what matters is their children. No matter how much my dad was behind on child support she never stopped him from seeing his kids. Even after my brother turned 18 my dad still owed money for child support and the state was trying to go after him. My mom told them to forget about that, the kids are grown already.

[XXL]

So after a late arrival I decided to call it a night after davivienda cancelled a 1 million transaction I requested. I almost requested 2 mil. The good thing is it gave me a receipt saying transaction not received. But my account still shows pending the money subtracted from my account, hopefully it will be back in my account when I wake up, so I don't have to make a phone call, but yeah fuck davivienda, ...That's bad. But could you have withdrawn 2 million? If so that's a sizeable sum. Here's another link about such incidents:

https://www.expatexchange.com/expatguide/190/3444006/Colombia/Expats-Living-in-Colombia/ATM-No-Cash

One poster wrote Schwab was the common denominator of those incidents. That's probably owing to the forum being in English though.

[Eszpresszo]

Arrived in MDE evening before last from Cusco. The altitude in Cusco messed with me badly. Though I did make it to Machu Picchu, I was ready to get someplace warmer and much lower. Hadn't busted a nut since I left Arequipa for Cusco, and didn't get a hard-on the entire week in Cusco. 11,000 feet messes up most people, but me more than most. Shortness of breath, difficulty sleeping and diarrhea that started the morning I arrived in Cusco and ended the moment I had my layover at LIM, which is almost at sea level. After a good night's rest at my Airbnb off La Setenta, I awoke with the first erection in a week and was feeling HORNY. So, I hit up Sofia on Whatsapp, asking for a date the following day (today). Sofia is my bright spot in a city of mostly mediocre service providers (sure they look great, but can they fuck good?) I like Medellin (this is my 5th time here). But, bland food and mediocre service in the sack are one reason I use keep moving along on this quest.

Met Sophia back in February. She shares a place close to my place and her price (160 k an hour) was right. She got great reviews on Don Colombia, and I found her ad on Photoprepagos. I sent her a Zap and we hooked up one evening. The large apartment she works out is right on Avenida Colombia / Calle 50 across from the Brigada Septima. We had a date for 7 PM and along the way I needed to get some cash from BanColombia ATM next to ENERGIA on Cr. 74. I was unsuccessful in getting money from that ATM location (common problem in Colombia) when I looked over and saw a line of guys waiting to get into Energia. I noticed they were a mixture of races, but they had distinct BRIT accents, and didn't seem too happy for the wait. Neither would I. Both times I visited the place back in 2016, I didn't see another customer. But, now its marked as "Spa Fantasias Energy Medellin" on Google Maps, so I guess it's global (though I can't imagine the service being good, I'm pretty much into Prepagos now, anyways.) I walked back down the street to the mini-mall and was able to withdraw requisite funds from their ATM without further issue. I headed back up the street and noticed the line outside Energia was gone. Maybe they left or maybe they got served, who knows. Arrived a bit late at the destination, Sofia opened the door, pooked her head around invited me into what appeared to be a large living room. Once she closed the door I saw she was a very short, brown, completely naked criolla with a cute face and enormous breasts that must have made up 20% of her body weight. She greeted me with a kiss, and then I noticed another girl on the couch eating pasta from a bowl, and another laying on a massage table with a sleeping mask over her eyes. I got hustled past the kitchen where I saw some small lockers along the wall. This wasn't a retail brothel, but I could sense several girls were using the place.

Off to her room, a mattress on a low platform and colored lights on the walls. Very cosy. She offered me a shower while she disappeared with my payment, perhaps to stash her cash in her locker? In her current state, she had no place to stash it, that's for sure.

So, she arrived back in the room for the preliminary chit-chat and then let me examine that gorgeous, tiny body. This one actually liked to kiss, and be eaten and responded with only the second ever BBBJ I ever got in Colombia. After this good start, Sofia at least put on the condom I brought (I always bring the best with me) and finished me off reverse cowgirl, something few women can do. I knew why she garnered good reviews, and vowed to visit her again. After another round of chit-chat in my limited Spanish another quick shower, she escorted me to the door, still butt naked. I had to wonder if she spent the whole day like that. The girl on the couch was still eating a bowl of pasta (an hour later) and the other was now laying on another couch holding a pillow over her face (I guess she didn't want me to see her face if I wasn't paying).

Made good on my vow to return, today. Returned to Sofia's lair at noon. This time she was wearing heels and minimal black lace onsey. Headed back to the room, took a shower and we indulged in a bit more chit-chat this time. Turns out she has a legit interest in her clients, or at least my background, my agenda, where I was going next (Bucaramanga) and when I would be back. Similar festivities this time, but I spent more time sucking those amazing boobs. I think she understood my condition, when she gave the expected BBBJ until I almost lost it in her mouth. She loaded the condom, got on top and we were off. The girl has stamina for sure, stopping when I was about to blow my nuts and starting up again for the finale. After she climbed off she grapped some wet wipes and pulled off the condom and cleaned me off (Once another girl in a Bogota casa actually tossed wet wipes at me from the bedside, because she was so spermophobic.) I had over 20 minutes left from my hour, so she snuggled next to me and chit-chatted some more (unlike some girls who go shower or get dressed because they are done). Truly a gem in this town. I didn't wear out my welcome when my hour was up, so we both got dressed and she took me to the door. Give me a sweet kiss and I was off to lunch, my wallet only slightly lighter but my nuts much lighter. Shortly afterwards she sent me a photo collage of one of her pals, Daynna. I'm not sure why, but it could be an interesting threesome for my next visit.

If you are physically in Medellin or at least in South America, hit me up and I will send you her contact info as she currently doesn't have an ad running. However, if you are not south of the Darien Gap, please don't bug me.

[Evac305]

Does anybody have current contact information for angels spa? The website and WhatsApp stopped working.

[Litmus Smut]

To all the turds that are paying for webcam models, pay for their time just to meet you and no sex, or just over paying in general.

Stop it, and move on. Keep your pimp hand strong!Was on the fence to write this, but the comment on" keeping the pimp hand strong" is one I support. So, here it goes. (FYI: I wrote this and then reread it once, so pardon the stream of thought and / or grammar issues).

Over the weekend (April 22), I went to Exxxotica, which is like a porn convention, in Chicago. Aside from being board in the good ol' USA, I have always been curious about going to some erotic show and figured it was like going to a glorified strip club, so thought "Why not? It's not too far and I'the regret not going more than going. ".

I do not regret going, but it reaffirmed how much of a rat-race-pussy-prison the USA is. That was an unexpected conclusion that astounded me as I walked around a convention center with desperate looking people, man and woman, pornstar and consumer, alike. I went with the glib hope of "hey, I'll see some sexy stuff" only to being overwhelmed with people embarrassed aura, lots of queers (of the LGBTQ brigade, thus it is not derogatory) in gimp and slave outfits, a strong expression of many fetishes out there, and just sensing more sadness than joy.

Of the pornstars, there were some currently big names there. Violet Myers had a line. Jillian Janson was there, but looked lonely and under-visited. Alex Coal (who looks like AOC and I told her she could make a killing to parody porn with that shtick but I don't think she liked that idea:) was pimply when seeing her at close range. Tera Patrick looked like she taught high school math, and not in a sexy way, just plain looking. Lisa Ann had a line, and it incredibly short.

In addition, a whole bunch of webcam girls selling themselves. Everyone was selling, selling, selling themselves and it had this palatable taste. And of this webcam group, a lot of them looks between "ugh" to "meh". It was a startling revelation that these average looking girls were making a living online and brought me to the belief that women have such a low barrier of acceptance by men. (Seeing and speaking to one of the camgirls and the message about overpaying for nothing / pimp hand is how the two posts connect.).

Of the guys there, I did chat with Evan Stone. He banged Anita Blonde way back and we talked about girls in Europe.

Of the customers seeking pictures and memorabilia, what a motely crew. After opening up to mongering, the whole strip club and porn scene just died for me so I cannot help but feel sorry for fat guys paying $40 for a picture with a girl like Alex Coal and all it is is a few of pics, one normal, one with his hands guided to her tits, and one with his hands guided to her crotch. I was like "$40 bucks gets be a heck of a lot more that 2-minutes setting up for a picture with a quite mediocre looking girl in real life.

I could not help but feel sorry for guys in wheelchairs who have no other outlet for their manly desires, which was not a feeling I wanted to feel when I went there for my own lustful purposes. Going there to see tits only to encounter a guy with no legs or a guy with a seriously messed up face is an emotional roller coaster that can droop any boner.

But that is what the convention was: A place for people with no outlet.

Then the Chicago strip clubs had their representation. They hosted after parties, where "VIPs" could go. Really, anyone could go, but for the extra $50 for the entrance ticket, you get free entry to a strip club to pay for club priced drinks and tip strippers. Meh.

There were girls dancing on poles, but not nipples. All nipples were covered with pasties. So, a girl could be 98% naked, but no nipples. This was true of camgirls, pornstars, strippers, and guests. It was a place all about sex, but nipples were forbidden. Ok. Yeah. Whatever.

All of the booths and interested expected to be there were there, but given the corporately wrapped environment and presentation of it all, I mean, even though porn is incredibly fake, this Exxxotica convention just reeked of a bukkake jerk circle wrapped in a tease where you don't get to release. The tease that America has come to represent. The promise of greatness and riches and good times, but nothing but the overly obvious branding of oneself, selling oneself to foolish boys. And that is what America is. A place to bundle up your sexual lust, only for it to be forbidden to express. Unless you put it under the 1st Amendment. How fucking weird.

Admittedly so, I had nothing to do there. I was a straight up tourist with no intention on anything other than to see it. But I could not see myself going there with a photo to be signed, or the need to have a picture taken with a hooker (especially one I hadn't laid with) as if I actually knew her. I don't see anyone as a person of interest when the possibility of sex equals 0. Remove the possibility of sex and you remove my interest, which is why America has become so uninteresting.

And, if you've ever been to a comic book show or card show, or even a boat show for that matter, it felt like any kind of merchants' convention, but for sex, but not for sex. It was for the guys to get masturbation material, and the girls to network so that there's more masturbation material. The amount of sex (free or paid) to come out of a convention like that, I would bet, would be extraordinarily low. And that's what's kind of a bummer, and why the comment "Keep the pimp hand strong" resonates with me.

Medellin is that place where a man forgets porn. At least I do. Medellin is nothing but fun with sex as available as a Coca Cola, and being with girls that look 5 time better than Violet Myers, who is actually attainable and not pedestalized and chased by all of Chicago and the wider world.

Medellin is seemingly getting more and more popular, and it feels we are all concerned it will change for the worse. That is why I think keeping the pimp hand strong will help keep the market in balance.

[MongerSocal]

Arrived in MDE evening before last from Cusco. The altitude in Cusco messed with me badly. Though I did make it to Machu Picchu, I was ready to get someplace warmer and much lower. Hadn't busted a nut since I left Arequipa for Cusco, and didn't get a hard-on the entire week in Cusco. 11,000 feet messes up most people, but me more than most. Shortness of breath, difficulty sleeping and diarrhea that started the morning I arrived in Cusco and ended the moment I had my layover at LIM, which is almost at sea level. After a good night's rest at my Airbnb off La Setenta, I awoke with the first erection in a week and was feeling HORNY. So, I hit up Sofia on Whatsapp, asking for a date the following day (today). Sofia is my bright spot in a city of mostly mediocre service providers (sure they look great, but can they fuck good?) I like Medellin (this is my 5th time here). But, bland food and mediocre service in the sack are one reason I use keep moving along on this quest.

Met Sophia back in February. She shares a place close to my place and her price (160 k an hour) was right. She got great reviews on Don Colombia, and I found her ad on Photoprepagos. I sent her a Zap and we hooked up one evening. The large apartment she works out is right on Avenida Colombia / Calle 50 across from the Brigada Septima. We had a date for 7 PM and along the way I needed to get some cash from BanColombia ATM next to ENERGIA on Cr. 74. I was unsuccessful in getting money from that ATM location (common problem in Colombia) when I looked over and saw a line of guys waiting to get into Energia. I noticed they were a mixture of races, but they had distinct BRIT accents, and didn't seem too happy for the wait. Neither would I. Both times I visited the place back in 2016, I didn't see another customer. But, now its marked as "Spa Fantasias Energy Medellin" on Google Maps, so I guess it's global (though I can't imagine the service being good, I'm pretty much into Prepagos now, anyways.).Bro,

I will definitely take you up on the offer. My bud & I are also takings a trip to Machu Pichu on June 16th. Hopefully the altitude sickness doesn't affect us too much. Then from Cusco we're going to Medellin for the first time. I'll hit you up when the trip date gets closer.

[MoonShot]

I am writing this from the airport returning from Medellin. Missed my connecting flight due to delay on the first flight. Had to stay overnight in hotel for next flight. At least it was the flight returning from Medellin.

It was a good trip. I saw mostly old favorites but I did see three new girls. Everyone was good to me and everyone was late to very late. Most of the girls I saw were 18 to 20, the others were 22 to 24. Facebook girls only.

I knowingly took the risk of going all bareback on this trip. Most girls will say no, some girls will say yes. I had enough options to just see the girls who said yes.

That also meant not seeing a lot of wonderful girls so next time I will mix it up.

I thought the food was decent with a lot of international options and hamburgers.

There are also some good value hotels and Abnbs for the $50 to $60 range guest friendly. You just need to confirm the guest policy before booking.

I stayed half the time in Laureles and half in Poblado. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

They took the fence down around Park Lleras. I saw a decent amount of quality streetwalkers on the main street where Hotel Dix is located. That hotel is definitely convenient if you want to see these girls.

The only disappointment was a threesome with two 18 year old girls who were friends. They promised they would do everything and of course they didn't. But I can't really complain about a threesome with two attractive girls.

[Chicago85]

I have had a number of guys on this website who ask me for the names of some of my favorite Facebook girls in Medellin. These are my thoughts about that type of request from anonymous strangers who I have never met.

It takes me a lot of time and effort to find the type of girls that I am interested in...

So basically guys want the results of all this time and effort in exchange for me basically nothing more than thanks bro.....

So there's not a lot in it for me to share this type of information but I have done so for guys that I have actually meet on the ground who are struggling....
.I don't think anyone blames you for your position Moonshot. To be honest, I've had more issues giving out names than not doing so with some things coming back to bite me with the girl (guy didn't pay agreed amount, horrible hygiene, too drunk, 'asked for weird stuff' or tried to go BB when she said no). I'm pretty clear with the girls and guys now and only give info to people that I've met in person. You also find out quickly if it's a 'fair' trade or not. It sucks when you connect a guy with a few hot semi-pros from IG and another guy shares the hardened 150 k FB girls that everyone knows about or some methed up girl from El Centro LOL.

[JjBee62]

Was on the fence to write this, but the comment on" keeping the pimp hand strong" is one I support. So, here it goes. (FYI: I wrote this and then reread it once, so pardon the stream of thought and / or grammar issues).

Over the weekend (April 22), I went to Exxxotica, which is like a porn convention, in Chicago. Aside from being board in the good ol' USA, I have always been curious about going to some erotic show and figured it was like going to a glorified strip club, so thought "Why not? It's not too far and I'the regret not going more than going. ".

I do not regret going, but it reaffirmed how much of a rat-race-pussy-prison the USA is. That was an unexpected conclusion that astounded me as I walked around a convention center with desperate looking people, man and woman, pornstar and consumer, alike. I went with the glib hope of "hey, I'll see some sexy stuff" only to being overwhelmed with people embarrassed aura, lots of queers (of the LGBTQ brigade, thus it is not derogatory) in gimp and slave outfits, a strong expression of many fetishes out there, and just sensing more sadness than joy...You understand that "keep your pimp hand strong" means slapping women who don't do things the way you want? Which, I suppose will help keep the market in balance. When "strong pimp hand" guys start running into angry Colombian pimps and get sent home in body bags, the demand will decrease.

Exxxotica type conventions are all over. They're mainly for various sex workers to network and learn to improve their business, while allowing fans to meet their favorite fantasy. There's one in Cartagena each year.

Like every type of convention, unless it's something you're into, there's no sense in going. For the people who go, it makes them happy, fulfills a fantasy and doesn't hurt anyone. Surely you have better things to do than to make fun of some legless guy in a wheelchair.

About the pasties, most US cities have laws against public nudity. Obviously the girls at the convention were just keeping it legal. Telling the porn star the same thing she probably hears from every guy usually won't impress her.

If you had paid attention, you probably would have seen several Colombian webcam models there. The big studios are usually well represented.

[MoonShot]

I don't think anyone blames you for your position Moonshot. To be honest, I've had more issues giving out names than not doing so with some things coming back to bite me with the girl (guy didn't pay agreed amount, horrible hygiene, too drunk, 'asked for weird stuff' or tried to go BB when she said no). I'm pretty clear with the girls and guys now and only give info to people that I've met in person. You also find out quickly if it's a 'fair' trade or not. It sucks when you connect a guy with a few hot semi-pros from IG and another guy shares the hardened 150 k FB girls that everyone knows about or some methed up girl from El Centro LOL.I have also had issues where both the girl and the guy were complaining to me as If I get something out of it. Some girls message me to say the guy is very rude, or wanted sexual acts that she doesn't do. I just had a guy turn down two girls when they arrived because they weren't his type or did not look exactly like the pictures. He gave them 100 mil to go away but the girls were not happy and let me know about it.

I have also had exchanges where I give away a gem and I get back a common stone.

So far The sharing of information has not worked out very well for me. I have yet to see a girl recommended by any other person in Medellin.

[Mtndew704]

I don't think anyone blames you for your position Moonshot. To be honest, I've had more issues giving out names than not doing so with some things coming back to bite me with the girl (guy didn't pay agreed amount, horrible hygiene, too drunk, 'asked for weird stuff' or tried to go BB when she said no). I'm pretty clear with the girls and guys now and only give info to people that I've met in person. You also find out quickly if it's a 'fair' trade or not. It sucks when you connect a guy with a few hot semi-pros from IG and another guy shares the hardened 150 k FB girls that everyone knows about or some methed up girl from El Centro LOL.Learned my lesson the hard way giving out numbers to guys from this board. Lost a semi-pro just for dude to give me a chick that works at Luna Lunera smh.

[MoonShot]

Learned my lesson the hard way giving out numbers to guys from this board. Lost a semi-pro just for dude to give me a chick that works at Luna Lunera smh.Another issue that can come up with referrals is how much you are responsible for them.

Lets say a guy asks you for a great girl to see and you introduce him to one of your girls and she drugs and robs him. Well, you can bet that the guy will blame you for that even though the girl was great to you and you are not getting compensated in any way for the introduction.

Or lets say you introduce the guy to a favorite girl and he is abusive to her. Well, you can bet that the girl will complain and blame you for that even though you are not getting anything for making the introduction.

I also get sucked into the getting involved in setting up the arrangement which I really don't want to do in my vacation. On my last trip, I introduced a guy to a girl. I just meet the guy at the hotel and he is not really a friend but he is a nice guy. But he struggles with Facebook and WhatsApp and translation and soon I get requests to assist in setting up the date and how much to pay and directions and basically acting like a pimp without any compensation. Then the girl is late and then he is messaging me about when she is coming and then I have to get involved and ask her when she is coming and it gets on and on. And I'm on vacation.

So I am starting to sour on helping guys with girls because of all the hassles. But I am still wiling to trade info with guys who treat women right and understand that I have no responsibility for what happens afterwards. And also I think it might be easier to give out the name of the girl without the introduction and let the guy take it from there. But then I get the guys who don't know how to do it and start asking me a thousand questions.

It is just a lose lose situation for the guy giving out referrals with very little in return.

[FRobertson]

Nah you bugging, I always tip higher in Colombia, even in the states I tip more than the standard 20% for great service.But how much do you tip the captain and the first officer of your airplane when they land particularly well? Do you tip more when you get a particularly good fare on Frontier or Spirit?

And how much do you tip the receptionist at the doctor's office?

And when you get your power and gas bills, do you throw in a few extra bucks for the hard-working people there?

And how much do you tip the cashier at Publix, and the girls at McDonald's drive through?

[Casa No Va]

I am writing this from the airport returning from Medellin. Missed my connecting flight due to delay on the first flight. Had to stay overnight in hotel for next flight. At least it was the flight returning from Medellin.

It was a good trip. I saw mostly old favorites but I did see three new girls. Everyone was good to me and everyone was late to very late. Most of the girls I saw were 18 to 20, the others were 22 to 24. Facebook girls only.

I knowingly took the risk of going all bareback on this trip. Most girls will say no, some girls will say yes. I had enough options to just see the girls who said yes.

That also meant not seeing a lot of wonderful girls so next time I will mix it up.

I thought the food was decent with a lot of international options and hamburgers.

There are also some good value hotels and Abnbs for the $50 to $60 range guest friendly. You just need to confirm the guest policy before booking.

I stayed half the time in Laureles and half in Poblado. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

They took the fence down around Park Lleras. I saw a decent amount of quality streetwalkers on the main street where Hotel Dix is located. That hotel is definitely convenient if you want to see these girls.

The only disappointment was a threesome with two 18 year old girls who were friends. They promised they would do everything and of course they didn't. But I can't really complain about a threesome with two attractive girls.Hey Moon Shot. I understand your position on wanting to keep gems to yourself. Can I pick your brain on your method of negotiating BBFS. I've had success negotiating in the room after they see what I'm working with and my hygiene. Just negotiating BBBJ beforehand but it seems like you negotiate before you even meet them. Over FB messenger or switching to Whattsapp? Do you tell them you will provide tests results? Or is it a numbers game like you said Any insight or strategies would be much appreciated. Thanks.

[Villainy]

I don't think anyone blames you for your position Moonshot. To be honest, I've had more issues giving out names than not doing so with some things coming back to bite me with the girl (guy didn't pay agreed amount, horrible hygiene, too drunk, 'asked for weird stuff' or tried to go BB when she said no). I'm pretty clear with the girls and guys now and only give info to people that I've met in person. You also find out quickly if it's a 'fair' trade or not. It sucks when you connect a guy with a few hot semi-pros from IG and another guy shares the hardened 150 k FB girls that everyone knows about or some methed up girl from El Centro LOL.A couple of years ago someone posted a few names from FB with whom they had been communicating. They asked for any information on those girls. I knew one pretty well and I responded with honest information. 95% very good. 5% so-so but nothing bad. Well, a day or two later I get a message from her giving me the "fuck you treatment". She didn't want me talking shit about her.

We eventually patched things up. I was just trying to help her but some dick on here had to write her and tell her she was being discussed and slammed on the board. He must of thought that would endear her to him. BTW she knew it was me even though my ISG name isn't the same as my FB name. But she doesn't see many people so she knew who it was. So I learned my lesson. -0- referrals unless I've met you and I think you belong in the sane universe.

So recently I met an older gentleman on this board and sent him a few referrals. He didn't think some of them were cute enough (which was bizarre, to say the least). He did meet one of them and paid her a rate commensurate with 5 years ago. Thing is, that guy is not short of money.

Anyway, I've learned my lesson. I just don't give referrals to guys unless I know them really well. It just won't work out well.

[MoonShot]

But how much do you tip the captain and the first officer of your airplane when they land particularly well? Do you tip more when you get a particularly good fare on Frontier or Spirit?

And how much do you tip the receptionist at the doctor's office?

And when you get your power and gas bills, do you throw in a few extra bucks for the hard-working people there?

And how much do you tip the cashier at Publix, and the girls at McDonald's drive through?Tipping is a personal decision. Why the flaming? It is not even your money. A person should be able to spend money he wants to spend money. Why does it matter to you?

[Mr Enternational]

I have had a number of guys on this website who ask me for the names of some of my favorite Facebook girls in Medellin.

So basically guys want the results of all this time and effort in exchange for me basically nothing more than thanks bro.In my experience they do not even give you a thanks bro and many times ruin your relationship with the girl. It is really bad when you do not even post a picture of the girl, but people want the contact info.

[LoveItHere69]

Seriously never give referrals. Did you guys not learn long ago playing match maker and you lost friends when your friends had a nasty break-up? We have argued endlessly about what 8's, 9's, and 10's are every few months. Why would you think his 10 would be the same as your 10? One if not both or all three of you will not be happy with the outcome. It is a great way to burn bridges at both ends.

Also, guys are F-ing idiots. 60+ year old French guy had twins on his bucket list before he dies. I had not been with these girls but had their pictures and Whatsapp. Showed him the pictures of the pretty girls but not stunners. He said $140 USD for an hour with both girls including taxi was too much. Most bucket lists costs thousands and $140 was too much for him.

I can do it with one guy but knew him for many months. I would point out hot girls walking by and he would do the same so we knew what each other liked. We have shared around 30 girls with a high success rate. Any problems were mostly personalities were not compatible. I only complained about one girl he gave me. 22 year old with no kids but was a lesbian and wore that tight boob holder that smashed her boobs. They were big like I wanted but they were so soft and mushy like she had had 3+ kids and was 40 years old.

I also hate the "Bros before Hoes". I travel to different countries to meet hot young women, NOT YOU! You mean nothing to me. She means everything. Simply put you may be interesting to talk to and fill in some slow time, but she makes me happy. She will leave me with a memory years down the road, while you will not. Just a sprinkle of perspective.

[Litmus Smut]

You understand that "keep your pimp hand strong" means slapping women who don't do things the way you want? Which, I suppose will help keep the market in balance. When "strong pimp hand" guys start running into angry Colombian pimps and get sent home in body bags, the demand will decrease.My mind didn't go there. When Pepoles Buddy was chiding dudes for giving money away to girls online for nothing. I took it as a man who minds his money, a man who controls the frame, a man who spends money for something – not for nothing. Maybe boomers think differently and get reminiscent of Shorty the Pimp, domestic violence, and getting girls hooked on drugs or something. I see pimping as a frame of mind – that pimp hand holds trump cards and knows how to play them.


Exxxotica type conventions are all over. They're mainly for various sex workers to network and learn to improve their business, while allowing fans to meet their favorite fantasy. There's one in Cartagena each year.Yes, I mentioned Exxotica by name so people could search it if they want to, not reference "a" porn convention in "a" city, so that it might render unproductive results. I also put the date I went to clue people in if they wanted to look for themselves. Brand, City, Date. If there is one in Colombia, I'the bet the rules of the American pussy prison system don't apply as much there. Probably some decorum required, but easier to make offers.


Like every type of convention, unless it's something you're into, there's no sense in going. For the people who go, it makes them happy, fulfills a fantasy and doesn't hurt anyone. Surely you have better things to do than to make fun of some legless guy in a wheelchair.I've been to boat shows. Don't own a boat. Learned about boats. "No sense in going" I disagree. Like admitted to, I was a tourist with no interest in spending money on anything offered there. DVDs? Posters? Photo Op? 3 x Nope. If anything, I would go again next year with business intentions in mind because what's clear is there is money to be made. Therefore, there was a sense in going after seeing how many people are desperate to make it.

This term of "making fun" is an especially odd comment. I wasn't offended by solo guys walking around, the obvious incels, the packs of bro dudes, people of different ethnicity, couples, queers, lesbians, the handicapped or the guy dressed as Jesus. Just because it was noticed and mentioned doesn't mean I mocked them verbally or in my mind. Your other comments have a bit of info, but this mention of "making fun" of someone has a tone of projection.


About the pasties, most US cities have laws against public nudity. Obviously the girls at the convention were just keeping it legal. Telling the porn star the same thing she probably hears from every guy usually won't impress her.Yeah and yeah, so. If you know what pasties are, you know why they have them. And, I probably didn't impress Evan Stone too much either. Or Spencer Bradley. They won't remember anyone. But Alex Coal does look like AOC, which would probably make her as much money as Lisa Ann did for portraying that lady from Alaska.


If you had paid attention, you probably would have seen several Colombian webcam models there. The big studios are usually well represented.I looked at them all. Most were not worth the time. Why would I care if they were Colombian or American or Japanese or Mexican when attractiveness is the primary factor? Was I supposed to run up to one of them on her live stream and tell her I've been to Colombia? Some guys went there to meet their online idol. I did not.

[Nounce]

Tipping is a personal decision. Why the flaming? It is not even your money. A person should be able to spend money he wants to spend money. Why does it matter to you?Put it this way, based on the context of the discussion that I started and combined with the overpaying reply, the question can be converted to this, the waiter presents you with tipping choices of 30%, 60%, 90%, are you going to tip 100%? The question really is not about the amount you want to tip.

[MoonShot]

Hey Moon Shot. I understand your position on wanting to keep gems to yourself. Can I pick your brain on your method of negotiating BBFS. I've had success negotiating in the room after they see what I'm working with and my hygiene. Just negotiating BBBJ beforehand but it seems like you negotiate before you even meet them. Over FB messenger or switching to Whattsapp? Do you tell them you will provide tests results? Or is it a numbers game like you said Any insight or strategies would be much appreciated. Thanks.Well, I will say that on my previous trip, I took 15 condoms with me and when I came home, I had 15 condoms. So on my recent trip, I just took 8 condoms with me and when I came home, I had 8 condoms. This is not to say that all the girls in Medellin will do bareback. It is the opposite. Most will say no. As a result, if you want bareback, you have to ask a number of girls about it and perhaps a few will say yes. The percentage depends on the type of girl you are asking and what they think about how you look. I don't know exactly what they are looking for but most girls just ballpark whether or not they think you are a clean guy or not. It is not a scientific analysis at all.

I don't like to negotiate in the room because if I want bareback and the girl says no, well, then you have a problem. It's going to be covered sex which is fine and not a dealbreaker for me but it may not be what I really wanted that night.

So, after some small talk, I will make my offer of money, time and bareback all at once and see how he girl reacts. Sometimes it is just jajaja, other times, no my love, it has to be sex with a condom. Or it could be ok but the price must be higher. You get a number of responses. It doesn't matter whether it is on Messenger or WhatsApp.

It is a numbers game. Ask enough girls and some will say yes. Ballpark, I would say 2 to 3 per 10 girls.

[Chicago85]

But how much do you tip the captain and the first officer of your airplane when they land particularly well? Do you tip more when you get a particularly good fare on Frontier or Spirit?

And how much do you tip the receptionist at the doctor's office?

And when you get your power and gas bills, do you throw in a few extra bucks for the hard-working people there?

And how much do you tip the cashier at Publix, and the girls at McDonald's drive through?My personal opinion is that here's a big difference given that sex, by nature, is not a commoditized service. The person's hands are on your physical body (and often times in places where they could do harm, doing things disagreeable to them). Also, in many cases you hope to see the girl / person again. This the reason that I also tip my barber and masseuses. None of the above meet that criteria.

The other thing that I'll mention is that I'm much more like to tip a girl working a casa a higher percentage as the rate is not set by them, vs the FB girls where you negotiate with them. If I think the FB girl rate is already quite fair / high, I may not tip at all, even if good service.

[RiceRocket99]

I have had a number of guys on this website who ask me for the names of some of my favorite Facebook girls in Medellin. These are my thoughts about that type of request from anonymous strangers who I have never met.

It takes me a lot of time and effort to find the type of girls that I am interested in. Then there is trial and error in seeing these girls and some are good and some are not. Over four trips, the girls who are good to me end up on my list of favorites. After each trip, I am back on the hunt looking for new girls when I am home for my next trip.

So basically guys want the results of all this time and effort in exchange for me basically nothing more than thanks bro.

So there's not a lot in it for me to share this type of information but I have done so for guys that I have actually meet on the ground who are struggling with Facebook girls and for my real friends in exchange for some meals and drinks. It is not about the money but some appreciation for my assistance.

And I also have exchanged info with other guys for equivalent info. That to me would be a fair exchange..I like your general approach on giving away chica info. My approach is just say no. I'm glad you posted about it so guys can stop thinking they can just get shit for free from random strangers on the board. I just ignore their messages myself no offense. They can RTFF on how and where to look and put in some time and effort, ain't rocket science. That's how I started. I only give out chica info to actual friends of mine. A few times I set up a whole week with chicas because I was bringing 2 high school buddies of mine at different times who were on their virgin trip to MDE. Having them around helped me build more chica contacts because I got more new amigas to come through. The good ones I'll keep their contact info for future dates. Win-win situation for me and my buddies.

[MoonShot]

Usually on every trip, there will be a few girls who I tell I will be meeting them but I don't see them because I don't have time. You always want to have more girls as possibilities just in case your top tier girls are unavailable. Those girls are definitely not happy when they find out that I am back home and I didn't see them when I was Medellin. Of course, they are more angry that they missed on making money with me than actually seeing me. But they like to play that game about how much they really wanted to see you. I usually tell them that I will try to see them on my next trip and I move them up on my list for the next trip and I make more of an effort to see them.

That is why I mention that I don't tell everyone that I am in Medellin because then a lot of your Facebook friends will message you and want to see you. But for me, it is a bit too much of a good thing and I hate ignoring the messages of young pretty girls. It just doesn't seem right to me.

[FRobertson]

Tipping is a personal decision. Why the flaming? It is not even your money. A person should be able to spend money he wants to spend money. Why does it matter to you?Tipping is a personal decision, correct. As is everything else in life.

Because this particular individual chose to publicly express his views on tipping, I am writing to clarify his tipping rules. Asking questions is likewise a personal decision.

There is no flaming in my post.

[FRobertson]

I like your general approach on giving away chica info. My approach is just say no. I'm glad you posted about it so guys can stop thinking they can just get shit for free from random strangers on the board. I just ignore their messages myself no offense. They can RTFF on how and where to look and put in some time and effort, ain't rocket science. That's how I started. I only give out chica info to actual friends of mine. A few times I set up a whole week with chicas because I was bringing 2 high school buddies of mine at different times who were on their virgin trip to MDE. Having them around helped me build more chica contacts because I got more new amigas to come through. The good ones I'll keep their contact info for future dates. Win-win situation for me and my buddies.This matter is very dear to me because several forums on USSG seem to be overrun with PM douchery where local "experts" only provide massage parlor information through private messages to other senior members. Which is ridiculous.

For me the distinction is between publicly available information and private contacts.

This board exists, in the global sense, thanks to those pillars of the community who kindly and freely share their reports of massage parlors, partytreffs, girl bars, and similar establishments around the world. We can't all be as great as them, but they inspire us to throw in our own reports whenever we can. Speaking for myself, I have tremendously benefited from the board and therefore I feel compelled to share whatever meager morsels of experience I acquire.

However, private contacts are just that. Private. If it's not a publicly advertising service provider, then it's your private catch. This is the difference between a girl's facebook or tinder profile (private) and her masajistaspaisas profile (public and there is absolutely no reason to hoard it).

[MoonShot]

This matter is very dear to me because several forums on USSG seem to be overrun with PM douchery where local "experts" only provide massage parlor information through private messages to other senior members. Which is ridiculous.

For me the distinction is between publicly available information and private contacts.

This board exists, in the global sense, thanks to those pillars of the community who kindly and freely share their reports of massage parlors, partytreffs, girl bars, and similar establishments around the world. We can't all be as great as them, but they inspire us to throw in our own reports whenever we can. Speaking for myself, I have tremendously benefited from the board and therefore I feel compelled to share whatever meager morsels of experience I acquire.

However, private contacts are just that. Private. If it's not a publicly advertising service provider, then it's your private catch. This is the difference between a girl's facebook or tinder profile (private) and her masajistaspaisas profile (public and there is absolutely no reason to hoard it).I also make that distinction. I also post a lot on GDL, Mexico, about massage parlor girls and agency girls and Twitter escorts and I give out names and contact info freely. These are girls that are openly advertising and promoting themselves as escorts so I have no issues about sharing such info and have done so.

The Facebook girls that I have seen just have a regular FB profile and do not openly state that they are escorts. They do not advertise on escort websites. There is no indication openly that they are escorts and they prefer to keep it that way. They would not like it if I posted their names on this website and said they are escorts. So for these girls, I do hesitate on sharing info unless I know the guy.

So this is a good distinction that you are pointing out. If I saw a girl on a prepago website, I would not hesitate to discuss her here and to give out contact info to all.

[Nounce]

...public and there is absolutely no reason to hoard it....There is because it is a form of marketing, intentional or not. The girl will become more popular and that will affect the price for the mongers fishing in the same pond. The girls will move between ponds to make more money so it may affect more than one pond. The IG girl that was mentioned by the generous tipping member recently, she migrated from FB to IG / overseas. Her price more than doubled even in Medellin. Airbnb is similar.

[UnknownGnome]

Looking at both Poblado and Laureles but does anyone have any great leads on good massage spas? Abybos I'm Manila has a really solid massage for 140,000. Happy Massage is a bit pricey at 240,000 but they do a great job. Looking for the holy grail though.

[KainnyC4]

Veteran to Colombia 🇨127476; taught myself Spanish looking to visit Colombia now but hear they are checking vaccine status. My questions: have they check yr vaxx status? If you have no corona vaccines will Colombia decline entry? Any and info will help thanks. I will not be vaccinated or tested if that helps to understand. Thank you gentlemen happy mongering.

[DownLow123]

The pua world seems exhausting. I watched a few interviews with a famous PUA named Paul Janka. He did day game in New York. You can see his old videos on you tube. He said his closing rate was 5% and that is considered good in the pua world. And he was good looking and graduated from Harvard. He could have just paid for it like us and saved the aggravation. I can't imagine anyone of us lazy asses on this board hitting on 100 regular girls a day in the US. LOL.There is definitely a learning curve studying game. But once you obtain a deep understanding of it, game becomes an extremely useful tool to have in your back pocket. I can't tell you how many times a girl told me condom only during a meet, said ok np, stacked a few routines together on her via google translate and 15 minutes later she's putting it in her toto no condom, nothing else said. I may be the only one who ever used good game on a foreign hooker LOL, but it works wonders for cheap dates and free extras. So yes it's much faster to p4 p but game enhances your experience to almost automatic GFE BBFS and them lowering there price for next meet just to see you again. But game can backfire on you, and the chica can invite you to meet her parents LOL.


You actually might be an exception compared to others as to how things might of turned out if you had been in an ugly divorce which seems to be more the case.

The impacts financially are one thing, and can be horrendos, but the emotional and psychological damage to the children can be far worse.

I'm going to bet, that some here, might agree that the best thing they got out of being married where children, at least that's my personal experience being married and divorced with two children.This.


So after a late arrival I decided to call it a night after davivienda cancelled a 1 million transaction I requested. I almost requested 2 mil. The good thing is it gave me a receipt saying transaction not received. But my account still shows pending the money subtracted from my account, hopefully it will be back in my account when I wake up, so I don't have to make a phone call, but yeah fuck davivienda, I was going to go get something to eat and maybe pick up a chick or just get some numbers at lleras bar or gustos but I think this was a sign to call it a night, so I did. Not only that but I forgot my burner iPhone at the airport smh. Hoping someone leaves it at the lost and found. I think I just need some sleep, been up past 24 hrs. Only slept a bit on the plane. Hopefully tomorrow is a better day.As I've said Fuck davivienda. Davivienda is the only bank that attempts this scam and it's better to just avoid the bank altogether. 18.500 pesos for ATM fee is a better deal than "hoping the ATM spits money at you imo.

[L00PY]

...but hear they are checking vaccine status. My questions: have they check yr vaxx status? If you have no corona vaccines will Colombia decline entry? Any and info will help thanks. I will not be vaccinated or tested if that helps to understand.The airline should deny you boarding if you can't prove vaccination or a test within 48/72 hours. Assuming you're in the US, just check the US Embassy page for Colombia for updates: https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/.

When I travelled last year, I was asked at check-in, right before boarding my transfer, but not immigration.

[DownLow123]

Met up with a new FB girl today (girl #10?) for 220 k. A condom was never discussed. She arrived on her own personal motorcycle (which I thought was cool) a little before 11 am. She asks me where to park it, I told her no se but was really thinking how the fuck do I know, I'm not from here only renting. So she pays some woman up the street from my Airbnb to watch her bike for 20 k, cool. She looks like her pics but a bit older. She's 28, the oldest chica I've seen so far. So I go through my routine, offer her some snack and shit. I ask her if she's scared riding her motorcycle in Colombian traffic, she says no way. I would be, I told her. I lead her to the room but she says she wants to shower first. She said she's a little sweaty from the ride. I asked her where is she sweaty? She gives me a strange look so I point to her pussy, she says si amor. I lean into her and whisper in her ear "quiero comerte el coño hasta que me ahogues con tu sudor why jugo de orgasm" because I'm a nasty motherfucker. Which is like I want to eat your pussy until you drown me with your juices is the English equivalent. She smiles and begins undressing.

Before she even takes her top off she stuffs my face in her crotch. Damn, this girl is Horney I thought. And I'm a nasty fucker so I went to town on her. Imagine a watermelon which you can never finish. Yea, that was me. There was one point I had to take a break to breath, rest my tongue, and get some of her juices from entering my nose. Five seconds later she asks for me to continue. I ate her out for a good 25 minutes before I asked "you don't do this often, no? She says no and that she broke up with an ex so she hasn't fucked in a while. So she pulls me up and flips me and begins to ride me. She has skills for sure.

She rode me fast and hard, than she would switch and grind on me to the musica I had on. A good 15 minutes go by and she's sweating (it's fucking hot in my Airbnb as it is). So I flip her for missionary but told myself not to cum because I want to watch it go in and out of her phat ass in doggy. After a few pumps in missionary, she says to milk outside of her pussy. Si, Claro I tell her (Yes of course). I ended up busting in missionary unfortunately as she kept pulling me into her whispering Spanish shit in my ear which turned me on. After the deed, she took a shower, we chatted a bit, she told me it would be fun if she could invite her friend for a threesome sometime. I said sure maybe. After about 15 minutes she finished getting dressed, hopped on her motorcycle and left. The original date was supposed to be 200 k (extras were never discussed) but I gave her an extra 20 k for the lady watching her bike.

The bloody chick (Girl #3?) comes by to take me shopping. She takes me to the outskirts of el centro, some big ass building with nothing but clothing and shoe stores. Cool, better than the last place girl #1 took me. We spent about 2. 5 hours shopping. Her civilian job involves clothes so she knows where to go for the cheapest clothes. She took me to some 3rd floor store with all brand-new clothes still in the plastic wrapping. I ended up spending a little over 200 k on 4 pair of jeans for my four teenage children back in the states. We left and began to just walk around, hold hands and kiss periodically. I was pretty quiet because I got sick of whipping out my phone for google translate very 30 secs. But think we just enjoyed each other's presence. After about 15 minutes of walking around we got hot and jumped in a cab and went back to my Airbnb. I wasn't in the mood for a date (sexo) so I gave her 100 k for her time, took a couple photos together and she left.

Received a text from Girl #4? The sleepover chick saying she wanted to spend the night. Told her I was tired from walking and shopping. She asked if it was with another chica told her no LOL. She reminded me that I leave Wednesday. Told her I will send a taxi her way for 8 (takes her a good 45 minutes to reach my place) so she would arrive for 9 pm. I ordered her some food from rappi (which actually worked this time). When she arrived, we took a walk down my street as there was a cop car in front of my Airbnb building. After about 10 minutes we head back, cop car is still there but the cops are not. So we sneak into my 1st floor casa. We start to eat and she shows me her joint she brought for us to smoke. We ate for about 20 minutes before she wants to go watch a movie she found on Netflix for us the night before. We head to the room.

I joke to her that she's going to fall asleep first, she laughs and says no it going to be me this time. About 20 minutes in she pulls me close which I already know her by now is her sleeping signal. I tease her and told her I knew she would fall asleep first. She tells me she's not sleeping, only resting. LMAO yea ok. I woke up about 3 hours later to a numb arm and us spooning. Aww how cute I thought. So I try to turn around and give my arm some relieve but no somehow she has sleep homing to know if my crotch leaves her ass, she feels it in her sleep and pulls me back towards her. How the fuck do you feel me move in your sleep? I was stealthy about it, I thought. So I just look at her and my god is she beautiful, so I just suck it up and continue to spoon her. I woke up a few hours later with her head on my chest and I can finally feel my arm again! Wow I thought, maybe I won't have to amputate my arm after all. Again, I take a moment to watch her sleep and enjoy her beauty. I had to kiss her, so I kissed her on her forehead like she was my girl. It woke her up, she turns and kisses me back and off to sleep we go again.

I wake up to her leading my hand up and down her ass and around her crotch. Oh, it's go time I thought! So we start by spooning and her putting it in. She was already wet, and I was already hard. We start slow, as she holds the back of my head with her arms. OMG I thought, I'm not going to be able to pull out this time. She's so fucking tight, my god. After about 10 minutes of spooning sex I can't take it anymore and flip her missionary. She grabs the back of my neck and my hips to guide me in and control the rhythm. Felt like we were fucking to some reggaeton song. She flips me and gets on top after about 5 minutes. She rides CG until I say leche. She don't care she starts grinding on it taking it all. I tell her leche amor please. Nope nothing she just keeps grinding. No way am I pushing her off. Feels to good. Fuck it, I buss inside. Damn that felt good. She knows I busted because she's wiggling her body in a way to get it all inside. I'm just laying there having a seizure at this point. She puts her legs under mines and starts fucking again. I can't fucking take it and try to get her off but she won't budge. She wants that child support from her rich American BF she's thinking. During that point and time I remember a fellow monger hit me up stating he believes the child support rate in Colombia is 50-100 k a month. Fuck it I'll pay $10-$20 / month for this nut until I regret it. Shit was fantastic. Five minutes after I buss inside her she finally gets off. We cuddled a bit more before her alarm went off for her class. We showered, didn't really say much about what just happened. So to break an awkward silence in the shower I tell her she owes me for falling asleep on me first. She laughs and reminds me that we didn't even get to smoke together. Told her oh shit I forgot. Blamed her for falling asleep first. We spoke for a good 20 minutes before ordering her taxi. She said she's going to miss me and to never forget about her. She was sad. Told her I will be back. Made me promise. I never asked her, her age. She's 20 years old. Her taxi showed up and off she went. Oh shit I forgot to pay her, I thought. I go running outside in nothing but my shorts and flip flops on and give her 250 k. She laughs and taxi leaves.

[ColombiaLover]

Damn straight! You nailed it. I am like you. I work hard. I find new girls who are still fresh and reasonable in price. Why would I share them with someone you don't know? You could be an asshole. Or abuse them. And that looks bad on me. Or worse, you could be a sucker and way overpay her and then she'll want more from me. I am happy to share about pros, but not the private stash I work so hard to find on FB.


I have had a number of guys on this website who ask me for the names of some of my favorite Facebook girls in Medellin. These are my thoughts about that type of request from anonymous strangers who I have never met.

It takes me a lot of time and effort to find the type of girls that I am interested in. Then there is trial and error in seeing these girls and some are good and some are not. Over four trips, the girls who are good to me end up on my list of favorites. After each trip, I am back on the hunt looking for new girls when I am home for my next trip.

So basically guys want the results of all this time and effort in exchange for me basically nothing more than thanks bro.

So there's not a lot in it for me to share this type of information but I have done so for guys that I have actually meet on the ground who are struggling with Facebook girls and for my real friends in exchange for some meals and drinks. It is not about the money but some appreciation for my assistance.

And I also have exchanged info with other guys for equivalent info. That to me would be a fair exchange.

Those bareback 18 year old girls aren't a dime a dozen so when I do find her, I think you can understand my hesitation on sharing her name with anonymous strangers on this website.

Maybe some guys think that I am selfish and we should share and share like. But to me, sharing means an equal exchange of information.

But I freely share information about logistics about traveling to Medellin on this website.

[JamesElroy]

Hi, call me crazy but I used to get off on banging some of those Sacalero girls that used to hang out in Botero plaza. Where'the they all go? New hangout spot, don't see as many as in years prior.

[FRobertson]

The airline should deny you boarding if you can't prove vaccination or a test within 48/72 hours. Assuming you're in the US, just check the US Embassy page for Colombia for updates: https://co.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/.

When I travelled last year, I was asked at check-in, right before boarding my transfer, but not immigration.No one cares about covid this year. I just flew to Colombia and no one asked, neither the airline nor the immigration.

However, the airline cared about the return ticket (but the immigration officer didn't, just stamped the passport).

[MoonShot]

No one cares about covid this year. I just flew to Colombia and no one asked, neither the airline nor the immigration.

However, the airline cared about the return ticket (but the immigration officer didn't, just stamped the passport).The same thing happened to me. No one asked me about COVID going to or coming back. I am from the USA. In Medellin, no one was wearing masks anymore. I just came back, took a COVID test and I am fine so far,.

[Huacho]

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[John Gault]

No one cares about covid this year. I just flew to Colombia and no one asked, neither the airline nor the immigration.

However, the airline cared about the return ticket (but the immigration officer didn't, just stamped the passport).The Check Mig form is different now. I just filled it out and there is not even a question about Covid vaccinations. Also when I checked the rules for entering into Colombia it stated no masks in public are needed. Of course I got not confirmation by E- Mail of the form being completed. I printed out the form. I am a hard copy guy so even if I got a e-mail I still would of printed out the form.

[Casa No Va]

This is not to say that all the girls in Medellin will do bareback. It is the opposite. Most will say no. As a result, if you want bareback, you have to ask a number of girls about it and perhaps a few will say yes. The percentage depends on the type of girl you are asking and what they think about how you look. I don't know exactly what they are looking for but most girls just ballpark whether or not they think you are a clean guy or not. It is not a scientific analysis at all.

I don't like to negotiate in the room because if I want bareback and the girl says no, well, then you have a problem. It's going to be covered sex which is fine and not a dealbreaker for me but it may not be what I really wanted that night.

So, after some small talk, I will make my offer of money, time and bareback all at once and see how he girl reacts. Sometimes it is just jajaja, other times, no my love, it has to be sex with a condom.Thanks for the insight on your method Moon Shot. Those are decent odds out of 10. Nice to be sure especially on my shorter trips to countries. Need to work on my Facebook game and start adding chicas. I've always relied on my fluent Spanish, hygiene humor and some hands on massage to get them used to my touch before I broach the subject last minute in the room. Usually right after a BBBJ. Have had pretty good success and allows me to see what they are working with down there before I take the plunge. Sometimes an up charge and sometimes none with just heat of the moment alcohol or substance induced wildness and connection. When I'm living in a country and really like a girl that denies BBFS initially but makes up for it in the other little things she does and her personality, attention etc after becoming a regular it usually just starts to happen once she trusts you more and realizes she wants to keep you as a regular. Need to work your method in as well on FB especially in Medellin. Thanks again.

DownLow. Never thought of just translating txt pickup that's probably been overused in USA to Spanish to build sexual attention and attraction before the meet. I've always relied on presenting myself best I can in the moment. Definitely something I will add to my tool belt. Thanks for sharing.

And I just read on Division of Foreign affairs site that no more Covid restrictions or requirements for travel to Colombia but that it could change at any time. Last year before Christmas I left from NY on Spirit checked in at a Kiosk that didn't ask me to show an agent any documentation. Took my carry on and proceeded to my flight to Bogota connection in Ft Lauderdale with Layover. In immigration line in Colombia after not having vaccine proof or neg test I was brought aside into a back room waited an HR for a Spirit rep and was sent directly back with my return combination without any time fto.

Eat food. Was craving a Sancocho or Sobrebarriga. Should have bought a snack on budget Spirit Had to scramble get a quick neg test and book another flight to enjoy what was left of my booked trip. My fault but wish that experience on no one. Check and double check the covid rules in each country.

[Surfer500]

Hi, call me crazy but I used to get off on banging some of those Sacalero girls that used to hang out in Botero plaza. Where'the they all go? New hangout spot, don't see as many as in years prior.No, your not that crazy al least in my book.

As your aware, years ago the Sacaleros would line up alongside the Museum and there were some hotties. Albeit very thin, a stench to them, and zonked out from sniffing the VOC's in the glue.

Where have they all gone.

Good question.

I've seen a few congregating across the street in front of the Hotel Nutibarra, but there is no area which I used to call "Sacalero Row" alongside the Museum like many years ago.

The Sacaleros are all still around, you just have to look for the telltale sign being a little black plastic bag and a small bottle of glue.

They seem to have just blended in as you have noticed, and guys will find them if they spend enough time walking around the Centro / Botero area.

Some guys loving going with them, because they are so spaced out you can do anything you want with them.

Let us know when you hit "pay dirt", but I can't see many board members here getting near them with a ten foot pole.

This is truly something only that a "street rat" would partake in, albeit not many of them, but maybe Knowledge! LOL.

[MoonShot]

Damn straight! You nailed it. I am like you. I work hard. I find new girls who are still fresh and reasonable in price. Why would I share them with someone you don't know? You could be an asshole. Or abuse them. And that looks bad on me. Or worse, you could be a sucker and way overpay her and then she'll want more from me. I am happy to share about pros, but not the private stash I work so hard to find on FB.I feel exactly the same way. For girls who advertise on websites as escorts, I freely share that info to other guys with no problem. As for those hard to find young attractive girls on FB who are also good in bed and reasonably priced, it takes a lot of work and effort to find them and to give that contact info to strangers in exchange for nothing of value doesn't seem like a fair exchange. Especially if she is a young attractive bareback girl who is good in bed.

Also once you give out that name and contact info to another guy, he may turn around and share it freely with his friends or other strangers and before you know it, that special girl you like is popular and busy, and is raising her price to you or just too busy to see you.

I had been giving out contact info to guys that I have actually met in person in the past but so far, in four trips to Medellin, I have never met a young pretty girl that I would like to meet with info from other guys yet.

[Mtndew704]

Veteran to Colombia 🇨127476; taught myself Spanish looking to visit Colombia now but hear they are checking vaccine status. My questions: have they check yr vaxx status? If you have no corona vaccines will Colombia decline entry? Any and info will help thanks. I will not be vaccinated or tested if that helps to understand. Thank you gentlemen happy mongering.I am unvaccinated and traveled to Medellin last August / Sept. And had no issues. I did take a covid test though so you might still have to do that.

[MoonShot]

Thanks for the insight on your method Moon Shot. Those are decent odds out of 10. Nice to be sure especially on my shorter trips to countries. Need to work on my Facebook game and start adding chicas. I've always relied on my fluent Spanish, hygiene humor and some hands on massage to get them used to my touch before I broach the subject last minute in the room. Usually right after a BBBJ. Have had pretty good success and allows me to see what they are working with down there before I take the plunge. Sometimes an up charge and sometimes none with just heat of the moment alcohol or substance induced wildness and connection. When I'm living in a country and really like a girl that denies BBFS initially but makes up for it in the other little things she does and her personality, attention etc after becoming a regular it usually just starts to happen once she trusts you more and realizes she wants to keep you as a regular. Need to work your method in as well on FB especially in Medellin. Thanks again.

I would agree that if you do not mention the topic of bareback in your chats, it is also possible that the girl will agree to it once she gets to know you and thinks that you are clean. On earlier trips, this is what I did but it was sometimes yes, sometimes no, and there are times when I just want guaranteed bareback. So currently, I just ask upfront and I know what I will get when we are in the room.

It is also the case as you noted that some girls will say sex with condom only, and then will allow bareback on a future visit. More so when she wants you to see her again and you casually mention that you prefer to see girls who do bareback and that is why you are not seeing her again. Just wait some time and she get back to me and agree to it when the rent is due and you are still in town.

[Casa No Va]

I am unvaccinated and traveled to Medellin last August / Sept. And had no issues. I did take a covid test though so you might still have to do that.https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/colombia/

This site claims there are no more covid restrictions or asking for proof of vaccination status or negative test. Information seems current.

While Embassy site seems is still stating that proof of negative test is needed. If boots on the ground haven't been being asked for vax card or neg test in immigration line in Colombia I guess that's what's occuring. And I'm glad that shiite is over.

Better safe than sorry to get tested probably. But that money would be better spent in country in my opinion. Lets stop making the testing companies and mini clinics rich.

[Temporis]

I've been in Bogota for the past couple of months and decided to fly over to Medellin finally. Arrived on Friday morning, looked up a place to stay, and settled on a hotel in Laureles. On first impression I've got to say Medellin seems a lot nicer than Bogota, though Laurelles is probably not representative of the entire city (I stayed near Santa Fe in Bogota). Explored the city a bit during the day and decided I would check out La Isla and Fase Dos at night.

Was tired as shit from the early flight so decided to take a 20 m nap at 10 pm before heading off to La Isla. Which turned into a 2 h nap. So I ended up getting there at 1 am instead of 11 pm. Was charged 50 k to enter then headed in. This place is super different from the clubs I normally go to in Bogota. First it's a lot bigger. And second there's actually way more tourists. I rarely saw tourists in Bogota, but basically every guy I talked to in La Isla was a tourist. Got a corona for 35 k and decided to walk around. I like different types of girls, though my favorite is definitely the skinny with sillicone type. I kind of expected every girl to be super hot, but doesn't seem to be the case. Most of the girls I wanted to talk to were busy, but I found one girl and got qouted 300 k for 30 m or 600 k for an hour. From what I get 400 k for 40 minutes or an hour is the norm? I'm OK with higher prices if the girls are way hotter. But for the most part I could find hotter girls in Bogota who charge 120 k for a short time or 700 k for the whole night. So my La Isla experience was kind of disappointing. The club's really nice, and it's possible that it was a bit worse because I came so late (11 pm is usually the best time). So going to try again on Saturday.

After La Isla headed off to Fase Dose around 2:30 am. 30 k cover to enter, and it was a huge disappointment. Was only there for 10 minutes before I decided to leave. Wasn't interested in any of the girls so didn't ask about prices. Again, it's possible I came too late but it was also a Friday. When I headed home I decided to try the Facebook approach of searching for a girl named "Vanessa Fernandes" and going through friends lists mentioned earlier in this thread. Also added a Karina Hernandez who I know used to be a working girl based on some other reports, and is exactly my type (pictures attached). I was using a new profile without a picture and kind of just spam adding. Had 2 girls accept my friend request (at 5 am? And then boom my profile gets banned from adding too many people and potentially being a bot LOL. Think I should've waited until the day when more girls added me back so my profile is more legit before I tried adding so many girls.

Had a couple questions:

1. Are there other clubs worth visiting? I'm planning on going to some of the spas and Loutron (that's the same as the Mansion?

2. Do you actually setup a profile with your picture and everything? I'd personally prefer not to have photos.

I'm considering getting a new sim to create a new profile, but I don't know if that's worth it. From what I understand using FB is a phenomenom unique to Medellin and not other cities. I'm still waiting for the dispute on FB for them to review that I'm not violating their rules.

If anyone's interested in meeting up for drinks or going to the clubs feel free to PM.

[ErmBobby]

Not sure if this is the place to address this but my phone got stolen last night from a prostitute. I was wondering if you guys have ever experienced this and did you ever find your phone?

[Mr Enternational]

I rarely saw tourists in Bogota, but basically every guy I talked to in La Isla was a tourist. I kind of expected every girl to be super hot, but doesn't seem to be the case. I found one girl and got qouted 300 k for 30 m or 600 k for an hour. I'm OK with higher prices if the girls are way hotter. But for the most part I could find hotter girls in Bogota who charge 120 k for a short time or 700 k for the whole night. It just goes to show that when you go to places where tourists are then you are charged tourist prices. That says nothing at all as to how the chicks look. Sad that some guys swear that because they paid a certain amount to their girl then she is better than the girl you paid way less to. But as you have learned from day 1 of your trip this is purely dumb logic.

Had you not had Bogota to compare it to, then you may have been like a hog in slop. Bologna sandwich is the best thing ever to a guy that has never had a ribeye steak. Looks like you ate a nice moderately-priced steak yesterday, and got offered an over-priced bologna sandwich today. Because of experience you knew the difference.

[KainnyC4]

Hi,

I'll be in Medellin in early May, I am looking for friendly wing men, monger etc. I am Medellin experienced, can speak Spanish, negotiate, and knowledgeable of the culture, area. Thanks gentlemen.

[DonCarlos1234]

During that point and time I remember a fellow monger hit me up stating he believes the child support rate in Colombia is 50-100 k a month. Fuck it I'll pay $10-$20 / month for this nut until I regret it. Sounds like a love affair with a 20 yr old. Make her happy.