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NapataJohn
05-15-23, 15:20
Last minute trip and trying Facebook for the first time this time, I've only got 2 weeks so my set up will be limited..If you have a facebook send me and I can ask my contacts to contact you but they would be about 400 k at least for 2 hours GFE.
Good day,
An excited first timer heading to Medellin this Tuesday at a local AirBnB in El Poblado. I've been searching for more details on casas around El Poblado, as I intend to make the pilgrimage to Gutsos to see what all the fuss is about, and take a long week to safely explore this option. With "casas" a common term, I get everything or nothing as I navigate the site. I'd thought to earn a whisker or two in El Centro, but I don't think I'm there out of the box just yet. Thanks and a tip of the hat to you all for providing the forum and info to make the trip a reality.No casas that I know of but there are a few massage places around parque Lleras that offer "extras" for the right price. I remember getting a BBBJ at one of them several years ago when I was new to Medellin but for the life of me I can't remember the name.
Why would I care what others think? Lmao.
If you really want to know what sounds gay. Is criticizing other men on the choices they make, dude who cares, let them be.Hey if you want to miss out on an actual Medellin experience by hanging out at Gustos. That is your loss my man.
Thanks for the note, plan on making the rounds to both.El centro at night is not for the faint of heart. Day time is safe though.
Honestly if you want to build a FB friend network this is something you should have started months before your trip. Two weeks is so little time that you're either going to have to get very lucky or you'll need a fellow monger to share his friend's list with you. But conversely any such monger has a strong incentive NOT to share their list because why would they risk you ruining their fun by overpaying their regulars or possibly infecting them with who knows what STDs?
Rather than asking for a sugar date and then trying to explain what that is just say you're visiting Medellin and that you'd like to meet or you think together you and they can have some fun together. Any pro or semi-pro will immediately agree and ask what date you arrive. She'll also probably start calling you "amor". If a girl plays dumb and asks why or what do you mean you're just talking to a regular girl and your chances of fucking her for money are considerably lower. If you talk a good game and are good-looking and charming (which let's be blunt--you're probably not if you're on this forum) you might be able to wine and dine her straight to your bed but for most of you it's not worth the effort. Move on to the next girl.Thanks. Yes months ago would have been better. Last time I was there (2019) I just used tinder and was able to wine and dine them just fine and have sex for free. I always thought if I go back to Medellin I won't need to see girls for money. However this time I am alone, and far more concerned about safety which seems to have dropped significantly since 2019 and with tinder. This is what has brought me here, as I am able to control a situation a lot more with p4 p. Not having to really do the dating / partying / flashy bit and tell them when and where to be (love motel or my secure hotel) will hopefully avoid me getting scoped.
I've not mentioned visiting on FB, and actually had my location set to Medellin too, and only chatted in Spanish. Mainly for safety (less of a target) but I might throw some caution to the wind given you say they're more likely to meet a tourist.
I may also try seeking given my short notice too. But has the downside of maybe "rich" guys being a target.
MikeGirobari
05-15-23, 17:59
I might meet up with her but wanted to see if anyone here know her?
Which Airbnb would you recommend that has tight security (but allows sex encounters)?
Anthony2023
05-15-23, 18:16
Hey if you want to miss out on an actual Medellin experience by hanging out at Gustos. That is your loss my man.I spent most of my last recent trip in Guatape and other areas outside of Medellin. I'm pretty sure I've explored more of Colombia than most people on this forum have in the short time I've been there buddy.
I'm pretty tech savvy so wanted to share some tips. I'm not speaking from results here as I have not been on my trip yet, these are mostly things I have noticed or that came to mind while preparing that I have previous technical experience with. If something is already common knowledge I guess I just have not seen it mentioned here yet.
Facebook:
- Profiles location: I've set my location to Medellin, it's less likely to trigger facebook banning you for adding many girls from Medellin rather than some other location.
- Friend's List: If you've set your profile's location to Medellin, when looking through someone's friend's list you can filter the friend's list by "My Current City" to avoid clicking through everyone. You must be logged in on a desktop browser.
- VPN: I've noticed some mention to also VPN and set your location to Medellin. Don't for the most part unless you have a dedicated IP VPN. Paid services like NordVPN still use shared IPs that so many bots also use, your account will be way more likely to be banned as Facebook know those VPN IPs. If you insist on using a VPN, choose a newer server (higher # usually) and use the same one each time. The better option is to use a dedicated proxy or your cell off of wifi. All overkill in my opinion, your own IP should be fine.
- Aged Accounts: If you are making a new account and don't want to start slow (e. G. 5 requests a day) buy an aged account for a few dollars (https://accsmarket.com/en/catalog/facebook/fbboosted). These are registered years ago and have some random friends populated. Aged accounts are way less likely to be banned. The better ones are usually the USA IP registered ones. You can also request it be male / female etc. Again nothing really wrong with just registering your own new facebook account fresh but I've been adding 20-30 girls / day with an aged account and no issues yet.
- Saving Posts: I have seen it suggested to save url links to girls profiles to be added later if you're limiting your friend requests. Instead if the girl's profile has at least one post on it, you can save that post from their profile within facebook to your saved posts section where you can also create categories (https://www.facebook.com/saved). It's more streamline than having it in a document. Plus when I go to send some friend requests on the app and revisit the saved list, it even suggests removing them from the list, almost like it knows you've now added them. It's a nice way to make a queue.
- Friend Custom Lists: Once girls are friends you can create different custom friend's lists within facebook (https://www.facebook.com/friends) primarily this might be helpful to organize girls however you want. You can also use these custom lists in your privacy settings to hide and show various parts of your profile / posts to different girls if you need for whatever reason.
Other Generic Safety Tools. I mention these here because Medellin isn't the safest, nothing beats just not putting yourself in situations to begin with but these might help if you need them:
- AI Background Check: This is not regular Tineye or Reverse Image search. With AI Facial search (https://pimeyes.com) you can upload some photos of a person and it will go and find that exact person online, in many other places they appear in photos. It's particularly good at finding adult content, so if the girl you're searching has escort ads or webcam content up, it may find those. You can also probably find their real name / social account if they're public enough. Up to you how you use this, it is paid to visit the links but you can see the results for free. Personally if I was talking to a girl and she's acted all innocent and I find she's all over camming sites and ads, I'd prefer to know what I am going in to. It's also great to see some content as a sneak preview.
- Wifi Security Camera: Instant view into my hotel room / airbnb from my phone and records too, alerts me to movement in my room too. Many on the market, mine fits in palm of my hand and was <$50. (Wyze cam on amazon). If I travel I can just plug it in and connect it to the wifi. Can record to an SD card or to the cloud if you're wanting content off site. I read a story here that an accomplice to a scoping broke and stole a security cameras memory, so it being in the cloud already means it's already stored online and away from you physically if it get's broken or stolen. The downside here is you might not want your security camera footage going online even if it is a secured passworded location. Your call. You could even just point it right at your door to get a girls face on her way in.
- Location tracking: You might want to use Airtags to track your stuff, or share your phone's location with a friend.
- Put your money in your shoe: Yeah this one is low tech! But saved me maybe over a total of $1000 in Mexico, cops stopped me a few times and stole my money from my wallet, but they forgot my shoes! Also a throw away wallet with old cards can help.
- Door stop alarm: I don't have one of these but did consider one when I was travelling a while back. Basically a door wedge to put by your door, if someone tries to open your front door you'll know.
IAmThatGuy
05-15-23, 18:53
My first visit in Medellin did not go as expected, due to circumstances I will explain later, but I have learned lesson for future visits.
Facebook: I was banned shortly after I created account. If you are going this route start early, add friends slowly.
Tinder: Tinder's algorithm is designed to make you pay and get trash matches. I only got matches with 9's and 10's at the end of my subscription. I had some really hot regular girls asking for hookups. I have not met anyone from Tinder but it seems very easy to score if you are relatively young and fit.
Bumble: Poor results. I did not swipe at all so that's probably one of the reasons I got nearly no likes.
SA: If you are willing to pay it's the easiest and most efficient way.
Day 1: I was planning to meet with this chick from SA I've been talking with about three weeks. She texted me on the day on my flight. She was not responding so I moved onto the next one. 18 years from SA. Agreed to TLN for 400. Sent her Uber and gave her instructions to my room. She was nothing like her pictures. Pictures were her but with loads of makeup and taken at the right angle. Fairly unattractive face and deep voice probably from smoking. I was horny so I let her in anyway. Chit chat, she took shower and then to the bedroom. Make out session, she goes on top of me and starts riding. The most tight pussy I've ever been with. And she would not lube at all. She was completely dry. Friction was surreal. I flipped her over and went down on her to try to lube her up. No success. Moved onto missionary and then back to her on top of me. I blew my load inside of her. She took a translator and let me know she is not on birth control. Having a child is a no no, let alone with unattractive chick. I started googling for pharmacies that were open during the night. Anyway, I told her we are going to pharma later. She agreed. Went for a second round. To my surprise she gave a very good BJ. We ended session in doggy. Went to pharma, she ate day after pill, I sent her home with Uber. She wanted to meet a few times during my visit but I wasn't interested.
Another chick from SA texted me she is able to meet after 2 days.
Day 2: Found a chick on one of those websites. 22. Incall. Arrived to her apartment, her mother and siblings went into other room before I was allowed to pass though the living room into girls bedroom. One of the most weird meetings. Her mom and siblings hanging around in the kitchen while daughter is getting railed in a room. Chick was actually very sweet. She did not have condoms and would let me hit raw but I wasn't going to risk it with STD's so we used mine. Action was decent, went for two rounds.
Went to parque Lleras at the evening. To one of those bars where you pay chick drinks and she spends time with you. Went back to app to take a rest, alone. Although some of these chicks would be down to fuck after shift, it's a waste of time and money. For the amount of $ you are going to spend on those drinks you can get 10 from SA.
Day 3: Talked with two chicks from SA. Both were asking what I was doing tonight, letting me know they are free. Neither of them proposed to meet and neither did I. They knew I was there and if they want $ they better make some effort.
After these conversations went nowhere I went to parque Lleras. Picked up attractive chick and went to app. She asked for 200 for 1 h, I proposed 400 TLN and she accepted. Chit chat, we go to the bedroom she asks for $. That should raise some red flags but I though maybe she had some bad experience with payments so she now asks upfront. Body wise she was my ideal match. Good tits, great ass, fit and cute. And this is where the good stuff ends. Her attitude was trash. We make out, BJ, she goes on top, we switch miss and I nut in condom. Due to effect of Cialis I had 0 recovery time so I just kept going. ***** felt warmth of my nut and pulled out. Went to take a shower, came back and started dressing up. Asked her where tf is she going? That wasn't a deal. Told her to give me 200 back. She refused to. I repeated again, this time in aggressive manner. She handed over 200, then I told her to gtfo. Lesson learned. I am never picking up those working girls from the streets ever again.
Day 4: Woke up with some digestion problems. Food poisoning. It kept going on all day along so I did not leave app at all. Seemed to get better at the evening so I arranged meeting with this chick from SA who said she would be available in two days. We agreed in TLN and she told me she will have to get up at 6 AM because she has some stuff to do in the morning. I was ok with that. We set time and place. I sent her Uber. She texts me and says she won't be able to stay whole night because she of the stuff she has to do, and she will leave at 2 AM. She said she could stay whole night the day after. I canceled Uber and told her we are done.
I went to some night club. Was asked by cute chick if I want to dance with her. She also had hot friend. After a while I can feel my stomach is upset again so I return back to app.
Day 5: Didn't leave app due to food poisoning.
Day 6: I met with chick from SA. I knew she wasn't fit but. She was slightly more overweight than I though. Anyway, we talked a bit and I did not feel attraction at all so I told her I don't feel well and she should leave.
Chick from day 4 texts me if I had changed my mind and if I would want to meet with her for TLN. No, bye.
Day 7: Checked out in the morning. I had flight in the evening. And I am not leaving until I fuck at least one chick. Arranged meeting with chick from SA at 2 PM. She forgot and responded half an our later. Too late, I sealed the deal with another chick. We met in a love hotel. 19 yrs old, attractive, good tits, even better ass. Exactly the way I like them chicks. The only worthy meet on this trip. We had a great session, GFE, made her cum twice and then she went crazy and fucked my brains out. Nutted in her, she said she was on birth control. Anyway, that was a good end to my trip.
DonMedellin
05-15-23, 20:33
Does anyone know where I can get a legit massage and a BJ or possibly FS at the end?
I might meet up with her but wanted to see if anyone here know her?
Which Airbnb would you recommend that has tight security (but allows sex encounters)?No, I really wish I could say that I know her. To stay safe I always send an Uber. I don't trust "drivers" dropping off and and hanging around.
If you do not like the price, then do not play the game.
If guys are paying $200 for women who are midgets, pregnant, average looking, or cannot apply makeup, then yeah, guys need to stop paying that.
On the other hand, I met a seeking woman for a drink. She was smoking hot and wanted $140 for two hours, and we went at it bare three times. In fact, she was so fucking good I called her back and did her again.
Maybe I could have gotten her down some but I got the impression that she was low volume and that was the minimum she would take, and I did not want to risk negotiating.
And you are saying I paid too much and shouldn't have fucked her? I tell you what. Guys spend their money how they see fit and if you do not like the prices, use your hand.
Are you seriously telling guys what to do when some hottie is in front of them? LOL. Yeah, I am sure that is gong to work. / sarc."Hot" women are not a rarity sir they are abundant. Let's not artificially push up prices. That's all I'm saying.
Not only you fail to understand the difference between girls, you also fail to realize the difference between BMW and Hyundai, or between any premium German car maker and mass market Korean car maker. Whoosh! What was that? That was the sound of a rebuttal concept going straight over your head.
JohnHancock11
05-15-23, 23:45
I'm writing this report several days late. There are just too many chicas taking up my time.
I invited a new FB chica over in the early afternoon and it went very well. She has a kid but is still young so her body doesn't show many signs. She stayed for a couple hours, BBBJ, all the normal stuff. 250 k total.
Friday night I met up with a couple other BM's and we went first to Fase II. 30 k for entry. We arrived a little after 11. It was just starting to get busy. We ordered a half bottle of vodka for 220 k and sat down. There were plenty of good looking chicas walking around of all types. I have been here a couple times before but this was the best showing talent wise. Maybe because it was a Friday.
A bunch of girls came over and talked with us. Got a few dances and a couple of numbers. It was a fun couple of hours. There were definitely girls worth taking. I was quoted 330 k to go to the rooms next door. But I had an 18 year old from FB coming over early the next day and I wanted to be ready.
We decided to go to La Isla just before 2. I don't remember why and I wish that we had just stayed at Fase II. La Isla had 80 k cover charge. The party was definitely still going. There were tons of ladies there. There were a couple of groups of guys throwing money around. And the chicas kind of all sitting around them waiting for it to start raining again. There was a show going on stage with some fireworks or something going off. It was producing a lot of smoke and the smoke was burning our eyes all the way in the back by the bar.
Some of the girls were going into the room in the back rubbing their eyes. We stopped to buy a beer and you couldn't buy just one. You had to buy two for 80 k.
I think 2 girls total made eye contact with us the entire time. Apart from the girls dancing near the stage, most were sitting in chairs looking at their phones. Maybe at that time of night their phones provide more options for them. Obviously we could have gotten up to go talk to some but there were almost none that even made me want to. Overall just a disappointing time at La Isla, so we left.
Does anyone know where I can get a legit massage and a BJ or possibly FS at the end?Go to Rio Del Sur Mall in El Poblado. Look up Dan Spa or Zen Spa.
I spent most of my last recent trip in Guatape and other areas outside of Medellin. I'm pretty sure I've explored more of Colombia than most people on this forum have in the short time I've been there buddy.And yet a set up like Gustos blows your mind and appears like a solar eclipse to you.
I might meet up with her but wanted to see if anyone here know her?
Which Airbnb would you recommend that has tight security (but allows sex encounters)?Use a love motel.
Mr Enternational
05-16-23, 01:21
Tinder's algorithm is designed to make you pay and get trash matches. I only got matches with 9's and 10's at the end of my subscription. Except those are not 9's and 10's. That is just Tinder trying to make you sign up again like you said. You can look on youtube to see how dating sites do this.
I'm writing this report several days late. There are just too many chicas taking up my time.
Some of the girls were going into the room in the back rubbing their eyes. We stopped to buy a beer and you couldn't buy just one. You had to buy two for 80 k.
I think 2 girls total made eye contact with us the entire time. Apart from the girls dancing near the stage, most were sitting in chairs looking at their phones. Maybe at that time of night their phones provide more options for them. Obviously we could have gotten up to go talk to some but there were almost none that even made me want to. Overall just a disappointing time at La Isla, so we left.Please note entrance fee at la ISLA is 50 K not 80, says so at the door. A corona beer is about 32 K not 40 and yes you can buy one.
Trying to do my part, sharing info.
PS>>>
went to La ISLA at least twice but didnt partake, went during a slow night and on a weekend where it was packed. I was quoted in dollars and 300-600K for one hour in one of the rooms. There were some stunners in there as well as weekend bros throwing money at Chicas.
One skinny (slim) blonde or fake blonde Chica came to sit next to me and we engaged in a convo, still not very fluent in spanish (I speak mostly Porto) but can manage. I guess she thought she was the shit as she quoted me 600K without batting an eye. I calmly asked her why am I getting different prices from Chicas (300K pesos now her at 600K) after a few mins she mumbled something that she need to do and got up and left. As I was leaving the club, she was sitting by herself, our eyes locked and we both smiled at each other.
There was another cute chica, kinda tall with a great body, at least an 8 on anyones scale, she spoke a bit of English, asked how much she wanted, quoted me 100 USD to go back in the room, I asked her to quote in pesos, she wanted 400K (current exchange rate ranged from 4484 to 4619 during the week) I countered with 300K but she stood firm at 400k, being quoted in pesos was a 60k difference, 60 K isnt the issue, it is taking control of the transaction not allowing the Chica to dictate the price and conversion rate.
Spent rest of my time in Laureles after that, theres an abundance of regular real cute Chicas out there and some casas.
JohnHancock11
05-16-23, 02:22
I decided to quit doing separate reports for each day. It is time consuming and I'm sure nobody cares. Plus the days were mostly rinse and repeat. I had 2 or 3 FB chicas over every day. Only two were repeats from previous trips. There were a bunch of new ones that I wanted to meet. So I did. Age ranges were 18-24. Each one of them I paid 250 k including taxi. Mostly that is because when talking about payment I say "Siempre pago 200 k pesos mas taxi o 250 k en total" Could I get some of them cheaper? Probably. But I think 250 k is a fair price and I have found they think it is fair also.
Every one of them did BBBJ, again mostly because I have screened them and they know I am expecting it. The average amount of time spent is 2 hours. The shortest was an hour and the longest was 5 hours because we fell asleep after. I guess she fell asleep and I enjoyed spooning the naked 18 year old on my bed for a couple hours.
Last night after my second FB date left I went out and met another BM in Parque Lleras. We sat at a bar in the park for a while, Diablo I think. It's a little off the main path for people watching but not bad. After that we walked around a bit. We walked past Gustos. (I told my friend there were plenty of Hyundai's and BMW's parked on Calle 10).
There were a bunch of Vennie's out. They were huddled in groups. I don't like walking up to them like that because I don't like dealing with the pack mentality. We sat down at another bar just off the parque. Met a couple of 35 year old non-pro Paisa's who were celebrating Mother's Day. Got a number. It was a good day.
Now I'm chilling at the Airbnb waiting for my last stand since I have to leave tomorrow. One of the 18's who was particularly pleasing is coming back for Act II.
This place is wonderful.
JohnHancock11
05-16-23, 02:30
Please note entrance fee at la ISLA is 50 K not 80, says so at the door. A corona beer is about 32 K not 40 and yes you can buy one.
Trying to do my part, sharing info.I'll rephrase.
On previous occasions when I have been there, it was 50 k to enter and I was allowed to buy one beer only.
That particular night, it was 80 k to enter and you had to buy 2 of whatever you were drinking. The 32 k is likely accurate. That particular number I don't remember for certain.
Let me correct you there a bit bro, HELP in Rio (now closed) was the largest of these type of clubs.
Here are few...
I would ad one more: Scandallo in Sau Paulo, a nicer HELP like. You can also ad FKKs in Europe (mostly Germany and Switzerland
SouthernGent85
05-16-23, 03:46
Poblado is a big place, the biggest of the 16 or so comunas of Medellin. I don't know of any casas in Poblado. The term is used for places similar to MPs in other countries, or brothel sorts of places. But the term "casa" will not bring up anything in a search as it just means "house". So there are many of these in centro, but also a number in other parts of the city such as Estadio / Laureles. There are lots of posts in this forum about the various casas, and maps, etc. Can be searched and found.
Casas, in my opinion, are a great starting point in Medellin. They are safe, and once you read up on the various ones you may want to visit the way they operate is pretty clear. And much safer than trying to pick up a girl on the street in the parque Lleras area, or in centro area.
Gustos is like a shark tank, plus when you get to your room with the girl you have the same safety issue as any street girl, at multiple times the price. But still an interesting experience as it shows you that end of the "market". There will be some beautiful chicas, well dressed, and in a little world where many of the clients have no idea of the real marketplace. My first exposure to Gustos was when a chica I had been with a couple of days earlier for 200 k was asking over $200 US at Gustos. (I met her at the mansion and typical rates there were 150 k, so she had a bit of a premium price there at 200 K). Anyway, she fit in at Gustos, but also fit in at the Mansion at 20% of the price. And she was happy with either. That is the marketplace.Excellent feedback, a tip of the hat to you! In agreeance that finding the Casas is the key to a first timer's fun run.
SouthernGent85
05-16-23, 04:09
After several months of reading these reports, saving up and finding the right time to make the leap to explore this mystical place, the time is almost here. Tonight has a kid-like Christmas energy, where you can't sleep because you know tomorrow morning is going to be nothing but fun. I know someone is reading this post the same way I used to read others here, wishing, fantasizing and dreaming that it should be you on the next plane away from all these problems. If anything I just want to say and show it can be done. Just keep at it. I can't wait to unwrap this week of adventure. I'll do my best to share the stories, and again appreciate this space. A tip of the hat until then.
DonMedellin
05-16-23, 04:21
For real? Which neighborhood was this at? Colombia never cease to surprise me.
Incall. Arrived to her apartment, her mother and siblings went into other room before I was allowed to pass though the living room into girls bedroom. One of the most weird meetings. Her mom and siblings hanging around in the kitchen while daughter is getting railed in a room. Chick was actually very sweet. She did not have condoms and would let me hit raw but I wasn't going to risk it with STD's so we used mine. Action was decent, went for two rounds.
BlueChange
05-16-23, 05:10
Let me correct you there a bit bro, HELP in Rio (now closed) was the largest of these type of clubs.
\Wow! HELP. That was my first introduction to mongering back in like 2004 or so. My goodness. I swear if that place was open today I don't think I would have even ventured into Colombia.
The atompshere, the vibe, the energy the shear SIZE of it. I loved how it felt like a real club and it was like even though all the girls were working you still felt like there wasn't this hard sell from the girls.
I think I banged to this day the most beauitful girl there ever, but my goodness she was on a next level in terms of understanding men and how to manipulate them. I was way too young to even understand but damn.
Soo so sooo many good fucks there, There will never be anything like it again at the size that was. I think it was even taughted as "the largest club in south america" it just so happend to have working girls there.
If you look in my profile you can see reports of it in the rio fourm somehwere. Props for the reminder.
Dcrist0527
05-16-23, 17:05
After several months of reading these reports, saving up and finding the right time to make the leap to explore this mystical place, the time is almost here. Tonight has a kid-like Christmas energy, where you can't sleep because you know tomorrow morning is going to be nothing but fun. I know someone is reading this post the same way I used to read others here, wishing, fantasizing and dreaming that it should be you on the next plane away from all these problems. If anything I just want to say and show it can be done. Just keep at it. I can't wait to unwrap this week of adventure. I'll do my best to share the stories, and again appreciate this space. A tip of the hat until then.I think we've all experienced it. Haha I live near a mid-size town in the Southeast. More often than not, I'll fly out of a larger airport, often the first flight out in the morning. I usually plan to wake up at 2 AM, try to get to sleep early the night before, and drive up early that morning. It never works. LOL That anticipation won't let me doze off.
Dcrist0527
05-16-23, 17:11
I'll rephrase.
On previous occasions when I have been there, it was 50 k to enter and I was allowed to buy one beer only.
That particular night, it was 80 k to enter and you had to buy 2 of whatever you were drinking. The 32 k is likely accurate. That particular number I don't remember for certain.Thanks for the clarification. I've never seen it at 80 k but maybe it was a special event, like you say.
I'll say this. La Isla has never been my favorite place. It's a bit too transactional. And the rain boys just piss me off and put me in a bad mood. But, I'll stop there once or twice every trip. On my last trip, there seemed to be a decidedly different vibe. Much more aggressive meseros. I'm totally speculating but it felt like new management with a much different approach than I saw in the past. I saw some meseros directed by managers (to approach some patrons and advise that they needed to order a drink. I don't have the backstory. For all I know, these patrons were troublemakers. But the whole vibe was different. I'm going to try it once more next week and it might be off my list after that.
Dcrist0527
05-16-23, 17:45
Go to Rio Del Sur Mall in El Poblado. Look up Dan Spa or Zen Spa.Also interested in this.
I've visited OM Spa in Rio Sur a few times. My experience there is that HJ is available and readily offered for too high of a price. But that's about it. Though I can confirm takeout is available with all that you'd expect. Never saw Dan or Zen there. But, I had a hard enough time finding OM. LOL.
I'm pretty tech savvy so wanted to share some tips. I'm not speaking from results here as I have not been on my trip yet, these are mostly things I have noticed or that came to mind while preparing that I have previous technical experience with. If something is already common knowledge I guess I just have not seen it mentioned here yet.
Facebook:
- Profiles location: I've set my location to Medellin, it's less likely to trigger facebook banning you for adding many girls from Medellin rather than some other location.
- Friend's List: If you've set your profile's location to Medellin, when looking through someone's friend's list you can filter the friend's list by "My Current City" to avoid clicking through everyone. You must be logged in on a desktop browser.
- VPN: I've noticed some mention to also VPN and set your location to Medellin. Don't for the most part unless you have a dedicated IP VPN. Paid services like NordVPN still use shared IPs that so many bots also use, your account will be way more likely to be banned as Facebook know those VPN IPs. If you insist on using a VPN, choose a newer server (higher # usually) and use the same one each time. The better option is to use a dedicated proxy or your cell off of wifi. All overkill in my opinion, your own IP should be fine.
- Aged Accounts: If you are making a new account and don't want to start slow (e. G. 5 requests a day) buy an aged account for a few dollars (https://accsmarket.com/en/catalog/facebook/fbboosted). These are registered years ago and have some random friends populated. Aged accounts are way less likely to be banned. The better ones are usually the USA IP registered ones. You can also request it be male / female etc. Again nothing really wrong with just registering your own new facebook account fresh but I've been adding 20-30 girls / day with an aged account and no issues yet.
- Saving Posts: I have seen it suggested to save url links to girls profiles to be added later if you're limiting your friend requests. Instead if the girl's profile has at least one post on it, you can save that post from their profile within facebook to your saved posts section where you can also create categories (https://www.facebook.com/saved). It's more streamline than having it in a document. Plus when I go to send some friend requests on the app and revisit the saved list, it even suggests removing them from the list, almost like it knows you've now added them. It's a nice way to make a queue.
- Friend Custom Lists: Once girls are friends you can create different custom friend's lists within facebook (https://www.facebook.com/friends) primarily this might be helpful to organize girls however you want. You can also use these custom lists in your privacy settings to hide and show various parts of your profile / posts to different girls if you need for whatever reason.
Other Generic Safety Tools. I mention these here because Medellin isn't the safest, nothing beats just not putting yourself in situations to begin with but these might help if you need them:
- AI Background Check: This is not regular Tineye or Reverse Image search. With AI Facial search (https://pimeyes.com) you can upload some photos of a person and it will go and find that exact person online, in many other places they appear in photos. It's particularly good at finding adult content, so if the girl you're searching has escort ads or webcam content up, it may find those. You can also probably find their real name / social account if they're public enough. Up to you how you use this, it is paid to visit the links but you can see the results for free. Personally if I was talking to a girl and she's acted all innocent and I find she's all over camming sites and ads, I'd prefer to know what I am going in to. It's also great to see some content as a sneak preview.
- Wifi Security Camera: Instant view into my hotel room / airbnb from my phone and records too, alerts me to movement in my room too. Many on the market, mine fits in palm of my hand and was <$50. (Wyze cam on amazon). If I travel I can just plug it in and connect it to the wifi. Can record to an SD card or to the cloud if you're wanting content off site. I read a story here that an accomplice to a scoping broke and stole a security cameras memory, so it being in the cloud already means it's already stored online and away from you physically if it get's broken or stolen. The downside here is you might not want your security camera footage going online even if it is a secured passworded location. Your call. You could even just point it right at your door to get a girls face on her way in.
- Location tracking: You might want to use Airtags to track your stuff, or share your phone's location with a friend.
- Put your money in your shoe: Yeah this one is low tech! But saved me maybe over a total of $1000 in Mexico, cops stopped me a few times and stole my money from my wallet, but they forgot my shoes! Also a throw away wallet with old cards can help.
- Door stop alarm: I don't have one of these but did consider one when I was travelling a while back. Basically a door wedge to put by your door, if someone tries to open your front door you'll know.Thanks Pistol. There's some potentially useful stuff in there. The only one I've historically used is the old money in the shoe trick. I'll probably use pimeyes. While I'm not on facebook, I have had some problems with SA while outside the USA, so your facebook and VPN suggestions may come in handy for that.
Please note entrance fee at la ISLA is 50 K not 80, says so at the door. A corona beer is about 32 K not 40 and yes you can buy one.
Trying to do my part, sharing info.
PS>>>
went to La ISLA at least twice but didnt partake, went during a slow night and on a weekend where it was packed. I was quoted in dollars and 300-600K for one hour in one of the rooms. There were some stunners in there as well as weekend bros throwing money at Chicas.
One skinny (slim) blonde or fake blonde Chica came to sit next to me and we engaged in a convo, still not very fluent in spanish (I speak mostly Porto) but can manage. I guess she thought she was the shit as she quoted me 600K without batting an eye. I calmly asked her why am I getting different prices from Chicas (300K pesos now her at 600K) after a few mins she mumbled something that she need to do and got up and left. As I was leaving the club, she was sitting by herself, our eyes locked and we both smiled at each other..La Isla is not a club with freelancers, like Gusto. Rates are supposed to be fixed (they do have basic and more expensive rooms though), but you are not supposed to negotiate. The last time I fucked a girl there, I paid 350 k, basic room included. BTW, you pay to the cashier at the bar. I heard now the minimum fixed rate is 400 mil (basic room, 30-40 minute service). If you don't want a more expensive room, or a longer session, there is no need to negotiate. You can always ask the cashier about the current rates, rather than asking girls and being quoted different prices. I think they used to have a sign with the fixed rate by the bar. Don't be a sucker, and only pay the fixed rate!
IAmThatGuy
05-16-23, 21:08
For real? Which neighborhood was this at? Colombia never cease to surprise me.El Poblado. Residential complex with many buildings and it's own security.
La Isla is not a club with freelancers, like Gusto. Rates are supposed to be fixed (they do have basic and more expensive rooms though), but you are not supposed to negotiate. The last time I fucked a girl there, I paid 350 k, basic room included. BTW, you pay to the cashier at the bar. I heard now the minimum fixed rate is 400 mil (basic room, 30-40 minute service). If you don't want a more expensive room, or a longer session, there is no need to negotiate. You can always ask the cashier about the current rates, rather than asking girls and being quoted different prices. I think they used to have a sign with the fixed rate by the bar. Don't be a sucker, and only pay the fixed rate!What I am saying is this:
They are allowing the girls to quote prices and I did get quoted 300-600 k pesos, the 50 k entrance fee and the occasional 80 K "special event" fee keeps all if not all regular Colombians out of the club, this is why I guess most gringos now feel safe to make it rain. I didn't take any of the Chicas, had other options. Chicas there, some of them are legit 10's and seeing them naked is an added plus as you can see any flaws (stretch marks, bad surgery scars). Prices are no longer listed behind or near the bar as you say.
I suppose the regular room price is 400 K so the Chica who quoted 300 K may have been lying, it was a slow night.
Once again here’s my question
If the at the top establishments (Lutron’s, fase II, Lã ISLA) are all charging 90-100 USD for one hour with a Chica why would u pay a Gustos girl 300-400 USD?
Someone also posted that a mansion girl charges 200K pesos at the mansion but wants 200 USD at Gusto;s how is this acceptable?
Take back control of the market gents, fine ass pussy is in abundance in Colombia.
One of my favorite pastimes while on mongering trips is to go to some spots and observe, use to do it at HELP in rio and many other bars in pattaya, Bangkok, Singapore and Hong Kong etc . I do the same in Colombia. I watch the girls, the customers and the interactions- observe and learn.
Some come talk to me but otherwise I am low key, grab a cheap drink, be cool with the staff and security. Sometimes I get lucky oftentimes I hop in Uber go my on way.
What I am saying is this:
They are allowing the girls to quote prices and I did get quoted 300-600 k pesos, the 50 k entrance fee and the occasional 80 K "special event" fee keeps all if not all regular Colombians out of the club, this is why I guess most gringos now feel safe to make it rain. I didn't take any of the Chicas, had other options. Chicas there, some of them are legit 10's and seeing them naked is an added plus as you can see any flaws (stretch marks, bad surgery scars). Prices are no longer listed behind or near the bar as you say.
I suppose the regular room price is 400 K so the Chica who quoted 300 K may have been lying, it was a slow night.
Once again heres my question
If the at the top establishments (Lutrons, fase II, L ISLA) are all charging 90-100 USD for one hour with a Chica why would u pay a Gustos girl 300-400 USD?
Someone also posted that a mansion girl charges 200K pesos at the mansion but wants 200 USD at Gusto;s how is this acceptable?
Take back control of the market gents, fine ass pussy is in abundance in Colombia.
One of my favorite pastimes while on mongering trips is to go to some spots and observe, use to do it at HELP in rio and many other bars in pattaya, Bangkok, Singapore and Hong Kong etc . I do the same in Colombia. I watch the girls, the customers and the interactions- observe and learn.
Some come talk to me but otherwise I am low key, grab a cheap drink, be cool with the staff and security. Sometimes I get lucky oftentimes I hop in Uber go my on way.Medellin has been going downhill for a while now.
It's not the pricing that bothers me.
But it's the fact that girls who simply aren't worth the price they're charging.
Prime example is fb girls and centro street walkers are now in lleras and gustos charging 200-300 usd.
There was a time when Gustos was a great place and I swore by this place.
But now it's absolute trash.
I met may utr non pro types and still follow them til this day on sm.
These girls are not the prepago or street hooker types.
La Isla is also getting real bad. Once again it's not the price that bothers me. But I never had problems with girls giving me BBBJCIM or anal at la Isla.
Now these girls who are worse looking than before won't even budge.
Why? Cause now it's the norm for idiots to throw money and make it rain.
I'm all for guys having a good time. But my issue is they're all posers.
The quality of girls have drastically taken a dive.
This was my scene. The upper echelon and more expensive outlets.
But now I wouldn't go back to Gustos. And I'll prob never pull from la Isla.
Dcrist0527
05-17-23, 02:30
Medellin has been going downhill for a while now.
It's not the pricing that bothers me.
But it's the fact that girls who simply aren't worth the price they're charging.
Prime example is fb girls and centro street walkers are now in lleras and gustos charging 200-300 usd.
There was a time when Gustos was a great place and I swore by this place.
But now it's absolute trash.
I met may utr non pro types and still follow them til this day on sm.
These girls are not the prepago or street hooker types.
La Isla is also getting real bad. Once again it's not the price that bothers me. But I never had problems with girls giving me BBBJCIM or anal at la Isla..I'm over this Gustos discussion. But seriously, I see 300 and now 400 USD being talked about as fact. Has anyone admitted to paying those prices? And I mostly read those quotes from people who swore Gustos off long ago.
As for the guys that make it rain, they disgust me. They are small peckered idiots who do it to laugh at the girls. But I don't think they are driving up costs significantly. They toss a bunch of 2 K pesos. 50 cents each. LOL. Yes, the girls scramble and hover. But the lucky ones get what, 20 K? 40 K? They get that after 1 dance from tips.
I'm curious how these girls are getting more than the standard price. Are mongers paying the girl and she pays the cashier? Or does she tell the cashier her price? Not being argumentative here. Just curious. Maybe the standard price is no more.
https://photoprepagos.com/go/gNxz-MZFp
I visited her last week. The first Photoprepagos girl I visited. Her price is 80 k an hour and 30 k for BBBJ. The address of her building is in her add it's off Calle 44 on carrera 79 A. Well let me start off with saying she's ugly and looks nothing like her pictures. This is the one I probably should have walked away from, but with time constraints and since I traveled there I got oral from her anyways. When I got to the room the bed took up the entire place. It's basically a shitty casa room. She wanted 60 k for CIM and I declined. I ended up doing CIM because She didn't pull it out of her mouth. Of course when I was leaving she says 60 k for the CIM. I said no. Why should I pay for that when I said no to begin with and she didn't have to keep it in her mouth. She a gave a lousy BJ and even though I paid for an hour I stayed 25 min. Not mentioned the photoshopped pictures. I would say she should work in a casa, but what for. Most would pass on her in a casa line up anyways. So she's probably better off duping customers with her pictures and leaving them with little options.
If the at the top establishments (Lutrons, fase II, L ISLA) are all charging 90-100 USD for one hour with a Chica why would u pay a Gustos girl 300-400 USD?
Someone also posted that a mansion girl charges 200K pesos at the mansion but wants 200 USD at Gusto;s how is this acceptable?
Take back control of the market gents, fine ass pussy is in abundance in Colombia. First of all, 90-100 USD at la isla is not a full hour session, but 30-40 minutes. Second of all, most Gusto girls would agree to 200-250 USD, or even lower, as one of the recent posters confirmed. Still pricey, but definitely not as high as 400 USD. Thirdly, Gusto girls usually stay with you for a few hours, sometimes overnight, depending on what you agreed on or how comfortable she is with you. Rarely they do more than 1 client per night, while La Isla girls can fuck multiple guys back to back, since sessions are short, and they fuck on site, no time is wasted on ubers, etc. Try to get La Isla girl for a takeout and see what she is going to quote you, because of the lost income opportunity. I bet it would be in the 1 to 1. 5 million pesos, which is basically Gusto rates.
She So Hot!! https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258.
Several rookie mistakes here. You are the one with the money not them. Regardless of whatever she quotes to you, you need to respond with "siempre pago 40 mil why yo pago la pieza" that will put you into the proper going rate range. If she says no you say no too. There are many more that will say yes do fuck her, and plus you can tell from her vibe she's a ***** if she says no, so fuck her. Second rookie mistake, you pay after the deed. "siempre pago despus. "you pay for the pieza with a 50 mil bill as long as the pie a is 10 mil or less you get back 40 mil to pay the girl. I recommend using Botero Real, the red hotel directly in front of the church (they charge 9 mil for 30 mins often longer before knock comes but officially it's 30 mins just ask for un ratico when paying and it's 9 mil).
As far as the knife thing it would have been avoided if you had exact change. As for her shitty attitude try to chat them up a bit before you take her to the room you can usually get a vibe for how they will be in the room based on how they interact with you during the pregame chat. Bitches that don't pay me much attention or answer with an attitude get the "mejor otro DIA, Chao" and girls that smile and show attention and interest get the "vamos a la pieza. ".
Also if your Spanish isn't atleast good enough to handle that without using your fucking google translate app on your phone, then you have no business in El centro.
-Gabacho.Definitely some assumptions here in your response. I did talk to the girl beforehand, and it was totally fine. It was also completely in Spanish (including all of the convo inside of the room). I paid at the hotel desk, which OK I guess you guys in centro pay after the fact. But normally it doesn't make any difference at all. The only thing I didn't realize is that the rates mentioned on the forum of 35 k-50 k are for 30 minute sessions, not 15.
MikeGirobari
05-17-23, 07:52
Use a love motel.Which one would you recommend that has airtight and trustworthy security?
Medellin has been going downhill for a while now.
It's not the pricing that bothers me.
I don't know what Medellin was like before, but for Colombia I'll have to agree that it's actually bad. Like every part from the low-end scene to the higher-end scene is just worse. The clubs are worse. The street action is worse. The massage places are worse. The city is nice though, and the non-P2 P scene is better. I stopped doing my daily reports earlier, but I think for like my day 7 I finally went to Parque lleras. I talked to a few girls, and they were charging 300 k / h + 90 k for the room. Majority of the girls were super mid, and then there were just a few attractive girls. I was talking to the girls outside the barricades, so maybe it's different inside and at Gustos and whatever. But it's funny there were actually 2 girls I recognized from Bogota who charge 130 k / h in Bogota but wanted 390 k / h here.
I never understood the thing about people complaining about others paying higher prices, but in mass quanties I guess it does actually make a difference. Like I'm fine with paying 400 k to see some of the girls at La Isla. Hong Kong Tijuanna is $100 to see a girl, and I've seen like 60-80 girls there. The hottest girls at La Isla are definitely hotter than the hottest girls at HK Tijuana. But seeing $200 to see a girl in Colombia is definitely the effect of this place being a way more common tourist destination.
I'm over this Gustos discussion. But seriously, I see 300 and now 400 USD being talked about as fact. Has anyone admitted to paying those prices? And I mostly read those quotes from people who swore Gustos off long ago...I didn't session at Gusto. I went after reading your reports. I saw nothing I like and it was too packed to stick around so I asked a few girls their rate. The starting price was at USD200/ HR, USD300/ HR. I know I probably can get different result if I took your approach, but it wasn't a pleasant environment so I didn't stick around long. I don't even feel the price is that bad as they are honest about it's quoted in USD. To me there is no reason to spend that kind of money with average girls for my taste. I could easily get someone much better with the same price elsewhere.
As has been reported by one newbie here before, he did not pay at casher at La Isla, he paid girl in the room with a higher price and they even had an argument. Basically, you see scammy behaviors on all venues from La Isla to El Centro SWs in Medellln now. The worst thing is the service go completely downhill. La Isla was a much nicer place before Pandemic but now it felt like a clip joint if you have visit it before the change.
Mr Enternational
05-17-23, 12:02
I'm curious how these girls are getting more than the standard price. Are mongers paying the girl and she pays the cashier? Or does she tell the cashier her price? Not being argumentative here. Just curious. Maybe the standard price is no more.I do not think there was ever a standard price in these type places. You could always negotiate with the girl. You give the girl the money and she gives it to the cashier, who then writes the amount down under the girl's name. There is a fee for the room, then before the girl leaves for the night, they give her the money she made. Casas have standard prices, but in strip / fuck clubs, you pay what you negotiate.
Mr Enternational
05-17-23, 12:07
https://photoprepagos.com/go/gNxz-MZFp
I visited her last week. The first Photoprepagos girl I visited. Her price is 80 k an hour and 30 k for BBBJ. The address of her building is in her add it's off Calle 44 on carrera 79 A. Well let me start off with saying she's ugly and looks nothing like her pictures.It is pretty obvious the pictures are photoshopped. There is like an unnatural haze on the person.
Dcrist0527
05-17-23, 14:12
I didn't session at Gusto. I went after reading your reports. I saw nothing I like and it was too packed to stick around so I asked a few girls their rate. The starting price was at USD200/ HR, USD300/ HR. I know I probably can get different result if I took your approach, but it wasn't a pleasant environment so I didn't stick around long. I don't even feel the price is that bad as they are honest about it's quoted in USD. To me there is no reason to spend that kind of money with average girls for my taste. I could easily get someone much better with the same price elsewhere.
As has been reported by one newbie here before, he did not pay at casher at La Isla, he paid girl in the room with a higher price and they even had an argument. Basically, you see scammy behaviors on all venues from La Isla to El Centro SWs in Medellln now. The worst thing is the service go completely downhill. La Isla was a much nicer place before Pandemic but now it felt like a clip joint if you have visit it before the change.Sorry if my reports sent you and you didn't enjoy it. Like you said, I'm sure you could have worked down below $200 USD, but if you don't like the environment, why bother. It is loud, for sure. Honestly, I don't even know why I like the environment. I'm almost 50 and don't dance. It's just the allure of something different, I suppose.
I'm not one that gets a girl at La Isla every time. But each time I did, I paid the cashier directly. I really never bothered to negotiate because I thought it was a fixed price. Good to know, thanks.
Dcrist0527
05-17-23, 14:17
I do not think there was ever a standard price in these type places. You could always negotiate with the girl. You give the girl the money and she gives it to the cashier, who then writes the amount down under the girl's name. There is a fee for the room, then before the girl leaves for the night, they give her the money she made. Casas have standard prices, but in strip / fuck clubs, you pay what you negotiate.Good to know. I've never paid the girl directly. Honestly, I've only picked up a girl half of the times I've gone there. It's just got a weird vibe to me. I've never even negotiated with a girl in La Isla. I went to the cashier, paid 350 k or whatever it was and off we went. Maybe I missed out and overpaid by not negotiating. LOL But I will say I haven't had a bad session there.
Hunglow1625
05-17-23, 14:40
Yes Angie is hot! However good luck tracking her down. I tried once. Like most of the chicas its all about timing with them. Most live in the moment. Many aren't reliable.
I may try to get up w / her next week while I'm there. As always too many to choose from! Choose several because they have no problem leaving Men hanging.
She So Hot!! https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258.
Nil Admirari
05-17-23, 15:33
I do not think there was ever a standard price in these type places. You could always negotiate with the girl. You give the girl the money and she gives it to the cashier, who then writes the amount down under the girl's name. There is a fee for the room, then before the girl leaves for the night, they give her the money she made. Casas have standard prices, but in strip / fuck clubs, you pay what you negotiate.In past years, at the top and mid-tier strip clubs (La Isla, Fase Dos, Luna Lunera, San Diego Grill), I could always obtain a quoted, set house rate (from a waiter / cashier / bartender) for a 40 or 1 HR session with one of the resident chicas. Ditto, for at least Fase Dos and Luna Lunera during my January thru March visit earlier this year. From more recent reports, it does seems that the policy has changed, at least at La Isla, and the girls may be setting / negotiating their own fee for service.
DonMedellin
05-17-23, 17:50
She So Hot!! https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258.I've seen her in my gym. Didn't know she's a working girl.
I'm a Brazil regular but Medellin was really easy to quickly build a roaster of top talent. I'm picky, yet in about 3 months, less if we consider travelling, I have 10-15 (what I consider) top tier girls I'm seeing and a growing list of 150 to 200 girls I have yet to even meet. Doubt I will be able to meet most of them, there are just too many. I cannot understand how so many hot girls are available. Of all the cities I've seen, it is probably the best so far for GFE P4P. One reason it works is that logistically, the city is the perfect size. Not too big, not too small. Without traffic, I had girls travel the entire city in less than 30 min. But it's also the last place I would suggest anyone looking for something even remotely serious.
I met quite a few board members here over the last few weeks and always fun to kick it.
Other points:
-Still haven't made my way to Centro or checked any casas.
-Parque Lleras is mostly a gringo trap. Funny enough, I saw at least 20 familiar faces there from Santa Fe Bogota.
-I've been to La Isla a few times with friends during prime time and have yet to see any girl I thought was really hot. Maybe it was a few bad nights? Walking around in any mall I see prettier girls.
-Despite the criticism, I actually like Gusto haha and never had issues there, quite some hot girls, the club is great and the music top notch as they have DJs flown in from the US all the time.
Favorite restos are Carmen, Relato, Oci. Mde, Colosal, Cuon. Cielo is way overrated IMO.
Chill spots include Envy, Montre, Coracao, Deriva. For partying, Icono, Zenith and Dubai.
Mr Enternational
05-17-23, 19:17
I've seen her in my gym. Didn't know she's a working girl.If me and her have 4 friends (who are mongers) in common, then the verdict is in!
JustinFields
05-17-23, 19:45
Going to Medellin in mid July. I know this is a mongering forum, but what else do you guys recommend to do as far as restaurants and places to go.
I will be going in mid July and if anyone is down to meet and maybe smoke a cigar I am down. I will be going solo so it would be nice to spend it with a fellow American. Message me if interested.
I will probably do a little pay for play but not making it the focus of my trip.
Do you guys prefer Poblado or Laureles? My spanish is probably at 15%.
Have any of you guys been successful in banging girls out there without paying for it?
Yes Angie is hot! However good luck tracking her down. I tried once. Like most of the chicas its all about timing with them. Most live in the moment. Many aren't reliable.
I may try to get up w / her next week while I'm there. As always too many to choose from! Choose several because they have no problem leaving Men hanging.I've seen Angie in 2018. I give her credit she's kept her body in shape.
She is married with kids and the husband knows.
She gives a mean BBBJCIM.
When I saw her it was 250 mil. I asked for anal she said she was a virgin back there. I made her an offer she accepted and we did it.
If you're going to see her have some 420 available since she's a straight stoner.
Yes Angie is hot! However good luck tracking her down. I tried once. Like most of the chicas its all about timing with them. Most live in the moment. Many aren't reliable.
I may try to get up w / her next week while I'm there. As always too many to choose from! Choose several because they have no problem leaving Men hanging.Last I heard she only sees a select few whom she has seen years before and likes.
The time I was with her many years ago she was very hot but she had a movie star attitude.
Others have said she was very nice and fun but that may have been before her head got a little gassed up.
Hunglow1625
05-18-23, 00:16
She's had some recent grille work done I can tell. Not sure why because she already had a pretty face. But we all know how these Colombianas are LOL. I actually did see her 1 night about 4 years ago at Pargue Lleras of all places, crossing the street. She looked to be heading somewhere so I didn't bother her. She's agreed to meet w / me before but couldn't track her down and I do not chase!
Last I heard she only sees a select few whom she has seen years before and likes.
The time I was with her many years ago she was very hot but she had a movie star attitude.
Others have said she was very nice and fun but that may have been before her head got a little gassed up.
ColombiaLover
05-18-23, 02:53
I was fortunate to have been with her very early in her "career" - Boyd from the Castillo set me up. Back then she was 170, which was a premium over the 150 or less you had to pay. She was good. But once she became more commercial, I stopped seeing her (which is normally what I do). Did not know she was married. She had a kid from way back. Maybe she has more now? She has to keep working out of that ass and those thighs will get out of control! Good luck with hooking up with her. If the OP does, be sure to let us know what you think about her now.
I've seen Angie in 2018. I give her credit she's kept her body in shape.
She is married with kids and the husband knows.
She gives a mean BBBJCIM.
When I saw her it was 250 mil. I asked for anal she said she was a virgin back there. I made her an offer she accepted and we did it.
If you're going to see her have some 420 available since she's a straight stoner.
ColombiaLover
05-18-23, 02:55
Ibiza in Itagui. Just off the highway.
Which one would you recommend that has airtight and trustworthy security?
Sorry if my reports sent you and you didn't enjoy it. Like you said, I'm sure you could have worked down below $200 USD, but if you don't like the environment, why bother. It is loud, for sure. Honestly, I don't even know why I like the environment. I'm almost 50 and don't dance. It's just the allure of something different, I suppose.
I'm not one that gets a girl at La Isla every time. But each time I did, I paid the cashier directly. I really never bothered to negotiate because I thought it was a fixed price. Good to know, thanks.I value your report and I have been to Gusto several times before. It's a nice bar. This time, it was just too packed. I like what La Isla used to be that I can relax in the club with a table and have a few drinks. La Isla was fixed price before. I was commenting on the change for the worse.
I've seen this girl on FB, and Seeking. I think she's a cam model in MDE. I don't think this profile is real. Any one any info and if she does pre-paid?
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100083122604662
To follow up my last post, I found the real one:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100079913050428&sk=about
JohnHancock11
05-18-23, 11:32
She So Hot!! https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258.Jaja, I'm mostly joking although if she really was born in 95 she's a little on the old side for my taste. Obviously, she is hot and if given a chance I would definitely meet her. I don't have her as a friend. We have a handful of mutual friends so I sent her a request for kicks. For those of you that already have her as a friend I'm curious about something. Her most recent picture available for me to see as a non-friend is from May of 2021. Does she still look this good 2 years later?
JohnHancock11
05-18-23, 11:57
I had a situation with Uber on my trip that I just returned from. I used Uber a bunch of times while I was there, both for rides for me and rides for chicas to and from. I generally prefer to use Uber when it's available. It seems like a safer option to me than Indriver although I have no data points to back that up. Indriver generally seems to have more drivers available and for about the same cost. I don't ever take taxis except for the guys that I have met personally, usually through recommendations. But I digress.
Back to the Uber story. I went to Lleras just one time on this past trip and to get home ordered an Uber with two stops, first to drop my friend off and then on to drop me off. The total was around 21 k pesos. There was an upcharge because of demand even though he was actually sitting across the street on Calle 10 when I ordered it. No problem. He took my friend home and then he took me home. I closed the app and went to bed. I found the problem when I woke up around 11 the next morning. The Uber receipt in my email said the trip cost was over 150 k and that the trip had ended 3. 5 hours after he had actually dropped me off. I looked up the route and it showed this crazy trip all over Medellin. You could actually see that he drove by my apartment twice.
I sent a message to Uber explaining the situation thinking obviously this is a mistake and they will just issue the credit. I received a reply in Spanish which basically said that if I did not like the route the driver was taking I should have told him to take a different route. Furthermore it said the amount of credit I was requesting was above some limit that they have. I replied once again that this was either a big error on Uber's part or intentional fraud on the part of the driver. I received a reply back almost immediately with the exact same verbiage as the first response, only this time in English.
So I called my credit card company and they said once it posts I need to call back and they will dispute it for me. I'm hopeful it will be credited then. But I guess I need to do more than just watch my receipts and make sure every trip shows as ended when I arrive at my destination. Has anybody else ever had an experience like this?
Hunglow1625
05-18-23, 13:41
I'm just wondering that after you dispute this will Uber block you from using again. Could happen. Keep us posted. I would think contact an English speaking Uber associate in the states to get it resolved properly.
I had a situation with Uber on my trip that I just returned from. I used Uber a bunch of times while I was there, both for rides for me and rides for chicas to and from. I generally prefer to use Uber when it's available. It seems like a safer option to me than Indriver although I have no data points to back that up. Indriver generally seems to have more drivers available and for about the same cost. I don't ever take taxis except for the guys that I have met personally, usually through recommendations. But I digress.
Back to the Uber story. I went to Lleras just one time on this past trip and to get home ordered an Uber with two stops, first to drop my friend off and then on to drop me off. The total was around 21 k pesos. There was an upcharge because of demand even though he was actually sitting across the street on Calle 10 when I ordered it. No problem. He took my friend home and then he took me home. I closed the app and went to bed. I found the problem when I woke up around 11 the next morning. The Uber receipt in my email said the trip cost was over 150 k and that the trip had ended 3. 5 hours after he had actually dropped me off. I looked up the route and it showed this crazy trip all over Medellin. You could actually see that he drove by my apartment twice.
I sent a message to Uber explaining the situation thinking obviously this is a mistake and they will just issue the credit. I received a reply in Spanish which basically said that if I did not like the route the driver was taking I should have told him to take a different route. Furthermore it said the amount of credit I was requesting was above some limit that they have. I replied once again that this was either a big error on Uber's part or intentional fraud on the part of the driver. I received a reply back almost immediately with the exact same verbiage as the first response, only this time in English.
Hunglow1625
05-18-23, 13:50
How do you figure? Because of how many friends? This Cam Model has more fakes using her pics more then any I've ever seen in Colombia. I've seen at least 10 profiles myself.
Most are men LOL!
To follow up my last post, I found the real one:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100079913050428&sk=about
Parasitius
05-18-23, 14:07
trip cost was over 150 k and that the trip had ended 3. 5 hours after he had actually dropped me off. I looked up the route and it showed this crazy trip all over Medellin. You could actually see that he drove by my apartment twice.If your credit card charges back from Uber, they may permanently ban you. Consider that.
That said, this is a VERY common and VERY intentional scam in Medellin. It is extremely offensive Uber is being so stupid to pretend they don't know you're reporting the typical Medellin scam. The idiots did it to me in the middle of the day there. I would go to the same mall 5-6 days a week. And he drove around for like 2 hours after and went to parts of the city I never go to. I contacted Uber and said. Just look at the freaking map! I got out of the car at the mall that I have gone to every day almost for the past month. It is obvious fraud.
I think I got a refund and it was all fixed, but sadly I can't say 100% because I don't remember carefully checking.
I've had this Uber scam tried on me a few times in Medellin. Like a lot of scams it only seems to be popular in Medellin. Monitor your trips closely. If you don't get a Uber receipt email within a couple of minutes after the end of your ride, use the app to check your status. If the ride shows still open, cancel the ride. The cancellation will have the effect of stopping the drag on ride. You'll end up paying for the original part of the ride but not the tag on.
Hi,
Can someone please help me finding a guest friendly hotel near Plaza Botero, I know about hotel nutibara looking for more suggestions, thanks in advance.
DownLow123
05-18-23, 19:29
I had a situation with Uber on my trip that I just returned from. I used Uber a bunch of times while I was there, both for rides for me and rides for chicas to and from. I generally prefer to use Uber when it's available. It seems like a safer option to me than Indriver although I have no data points to back that up. Indriver generally seems to have more drivers available and for about the same cost. I don't ever take taxis except for the guys that I have met personally, usually through recommendations. But I digress.
Back to the Uber story. I went to Lleras just one time on this past trip and to get home ordered an Uber with two stops, first to drop my friend off and then on to drop me off. The total was around 21 k pesos. There was an upcharge because of demand even though he was actually sitting across the street on Calle 10 when I ordered it. No problem. He took my friend home and then he took me home. I closed the app and went to bed. I found the problem when I woke up around 11 the next morning. The Uber receipt in my email said the trip cost was over 150 k and that the trip had ended 3. 5 hours after he had actually dropped me off. I looked up the route and it showed this crazy trip all over Medellin. You could actually see that he drove by my apartment twice.
I sent a message to Uber explaining the situation thinking obviously this is a mistake and they will just issue the credit. I received a reply in Spanish which basically said that if I did not like the route the driver was taking I should have told him to take a different route. Furthermore it said the amount of credit I was requesting was above some limit that they have. I replied once again that this was either a big error on Uber's part or intentional fraud on the part of the driver. I received a reply back almost immediately with the exact same verbiage as the first response, only this time in English.
So I called my credit card company and they said once it posts I need to call back and they will dispute it for me. I'm hopeful it will be credited then. But I guess I need to do more than just watch my receipts and make sure every trip shows as ended when I arrive at my destination. Has anybody else ever had an experience like this?You tell the driver the max your willing to pay for the ride, they can either accept it or ignore it. Download app, problem solved. UBER is illegal in Colombia for a reason.
Mr Enternational
05-18-23, 20:29
If you don't get a Uber receipt email within a couple of minutes after the end of your ride, use the app to check your status. If the ride shows still open, cancel the ride. The cancellation will have the effect of stopping the drag on ride. You'll end up paying for the original part of the ride but not the tag on.You can always switch your Uber to pay cash.
I've had this Uber scam tried on me a few times in Medellin. Like a lot of scams it only seems to be popular in Medellin. Monitor your trips closely. If you don't get a Uber receipt email within a couple of minutes after the end of your ride, use the app to check your status. If the ride shows still open, cancel the ride. The cancellation will have the effect of stopping the drag on ride. You'll end up paying for the original part of the ride but not the tag on.I have been to Medellin 3 times. I take Uber everywhere and I have them pick up chicas. I would never trust chicas bringing a "driver" to my Airbnb. The rides I take on Uber are like. 41 cents tu 5 dollars.
I don't trust cabs or any other apps out there at all.
Hi,
Can someone please help me finding a guest friendly hotel near Plaza Botero, I know about hotel nutibara looking for more suggestions, thanks in advance.Unfortunately there are no guest friendly hotels in and around the area you described.
The Tall Man
05-19-23, 02:04
Wow! HELP. That was my first introduction to mongering back in like 2004 or so. My goodness. I swear if that place was open today I don't think I would have even ventured into Colombia.
The atompshere, the vibe, the energy the shear SIZE of it. I loved how it felt like a real club and it was like even though all the girls were working you still felt like there wasn't this hard sell from the girls.
I think I banged to this day the most beauitful girl there ever, but my goodness she was on a next level in terms of understanding men and how to manipulate them. I was way too young to even understand but damn.
Soo so sooo many good fucks there, There will never be anything like it again at the size that was. I think it was even taughted as "the largest club in south america" it just so happend to have working girls there.
If you look in my profile you can see reports of it in the rio fourm somehwere. Props for the reminder.The Tall Man is in your court with regards to HELP disco in Rio, been there a few times in the early 2000's and what memories of the chicas, the dancing, the energy and hey it's Rio after all.
Enough said!
TTM.
I have been to Medellin 3 times. I take Uber everywhere and I have them pick up chicas. I would never trust chicas bringing a "driver" to my Airbnb. The rides I take on Uber are like. 41 cents tu 5 dollars.
I don't trust cabs or any other apps out there at all.I've lived here for almost 4 years now. I take taxis everywhere and I don't have any bad experiences to report. Of course if you are getting your taxis at Parque Lleras or close by. Then there might be someone trying to take advantage. Afterall that is the tourist zone where the rich foreigners stay.
Locals use taxis for short trips or the Metro or buses of course. Longer trips (like for example Laureles to Bello) they all seem to use InDriver. As someone pointed out, enter your pick-up and destination and your suggested price. You may get counter-offers. If nothing happens raise your price 1 mil. Easey Peasy.
I think people should know that outside of the Parque Lleras area, taxis are just fine. Of course it would help if you can articulate in Spanish where you want to go. Failing that give him the destination written on a card or piece of paper. I'm pretty friendly with a group of ex-pats that are living here and I haven't heard of any incidents or problems with a taxi.
I had a situation with Uber on my trip that I just returned from. I used Uber a bunch of times while I was there, both for rides for me and rides for chicas to and from. I generally prefer to use Uber when it's available. It seems like a safer option to me than Indriver although I have no data points to back that up. Indriver generally seems to have more drivers available and for about the same cost. I don't ever take taxis except for the guys that I have met personally, usually through recommendations. But I digress.
Back to the Uber story. I went to Lleras just one time on this past trip and to get home ordered an Uber with two stops, first to drop my friend off and then on to drop me off. The total was around 21 k pesos. There was an upcharge because of demand even though he was actually sitting across the street on Calle 10 when I ordered it. No problem. He took my friend home and then he took me home. I closed the app and went to bed. I found the problem when I woke up around 11 the next morning. The Uber receipt in my email said the trip cost was over 150 k and that the trip had ended 3. 5 hours after he had actually dropped me off. I looked up the route and it showed this crazy trip all over Medellin. You could actually see that he drove by my apartment twice.
I sent a message to Uber explaining the situation thinking obviously this is a mistake and they will just issue the credit. I received a reply in Spanish which basically said that if I did not like the route the driver was taking I should have told him to take a different route. Furthermore it said the amount of credit I was requesting was above some limit that they have. I replied once again that this was either a big error on Uber's part or intentional fraud on the part of the driver. I received a reply back almost immediately with the exact same verbiage as the first response, only this time in English.
So I called my credit card company and they said once it posts I need to call back and they will dispute it for me. I'm hopeful it will be credited then. But I guess I need to do more than just watch my receipts and make sure every trip shows as ended when I arrive at my destination. Has anybody else ever had an experience like this?I always use inDriver and it's always in cash. You put in the amount your willing to pay and drivers will accept it or offer a counter offer. I have never had a problem with InDriver. Avoid using regular taxis if possible tho, they have counterfeit bills they use to give you your change. Taxistas are scam artists.
I had a situation with Uber on my trip that I just returned from. I used Uber a bunch of times while I was there, both for rides for me and rides for chicas to and from. I generally prefer to use Uber when it's available. It seems like a safer option to me than Indriver although I have no data points to back that up. Indriver generally seems to have more drivers available and for about the same cost. I don't ever take taxis except for the guys that I have met personally, usually through recommendations. But I digress.
Back to the Uber story. I went to Lleras just one time on this past trip and to get home ordered an Uber with two stops, first to drop my friend off and then on to drop me off. The total was around 21 k pesos. There was an upcharge because of demand even though he was actually sitting across the street on Calle 10 when I ordered it. No problem. He took my friend home and then he took me home. I closed the app and went to bed. I found the problem when I woke up around 11 the next morning. The Uber receipt in my email said the trip cost was over 150 k and that the trip had ended 3. 5 hours after he had actually dropped me off. I looked up the route and it showed this crazy trip all over Medellin. You could actually see that he drove by my apartment twice.
I sent a message to Uber explaining the situation thinking obviously this is a mistake and they will just issue the credit. I received a reply in Spanish which basically said that if I did not like the route the driver was taking I should have told him to take a different route. Furthermore it said the amount of credit I was requesting was above some limit that they have. I replied once again that this was either a big error on Uber's part or intentional fraud on the part of the driver. I received a reply back almost immediately with the exact same verbiage as the first response, only this time in English.
So I called my credit card company and they said once it posts I need to call back and they will dispute it for me. I'm hopeful it will be credited then. But I guess I need to do more than just watch my receipts and make sure every trip shows as ended when I arrive at my destination. Has anybody else ever had an experience like this?Oh and I forgot to mention actually better yet than InDriver is to just use the good old public transit. One of the main reasons I chose medellin over Bogota to rent and apartment and live her when I'm not working was the metro system. The metro, tranvia, metro cable and integrated busses can get you just about anywhere you need to go and for a fraction of the cost. Current price is only 2880 pesos for using both lines of the metro and the attached metro cables and then you can pay a discounted prices of 1800 if you need to transfer to a bus after using the metro. And I have never not one time had a bus driver or metro station give me back counterfeit money or any other kind of scams. Also there are lots of police and cameras throughout the metro system and it is safe and for the most part reliable (although linea K metro cable was down for a cpl hours this evening but that is not the norm).
Hi,
Can someone please help me finding a guest friendly hotel near Plaza Botero, I know about hotel nutibara looking for more suggestions, thanks in advance.Calle Real and Premier Plaza and various others up in prado area a cpl blocks up the street from hotel nutibara (if you have the cajones to stay in that area LOL).
Calle Real and Premier Plaza and various others up in prado area a cpl blocks up the street from hotel nutibara (if you have the cajones to stay in that area LOL).Almost like Halloween late at night around the Veracruz Church area, not a good place to be for anyone who is afraid of their shadow. LOL.
Calle Real and Premier Plaza and various others up in prado area a cpl blocks up the street from hotel nutibara (if you have the cajones to stay in that area LOL).Thanks for quick reply, I have seen Calle Real but was not sure it was guest friendly, between Calle Real and Premier Plaza which one you think us better (in terms of amenities).
Poblado, especially Parque Lleras, the Poblado metro station and the Domino's Pizza on la 10 are ground zero for ride share and taxi ripoffs. In fact, they are ground zero for gringo ripoffs of every kind. Uber cleverly words its support questions so you have to pay attention to how you report situations like this. What works is to select the driver did not end the trip after he dropped me off selection. From the description of uber's response it sounds like they assumed the original poster was still in the vehicle the entire time.
I've lived here for almost 4 years now. I take taxis everywhere and I don't have any bad experiences to report. Of course if you are getting your taxis at Parque Lleras or close by. Then there might be someone trying to take advantage. Afterall that is the tourist zone where the rich foreigners stay.
Locals use taxis for short trips or the Metro or buses of course. Longer trips (like for example Laureles to Bello) they all seem to use InDriver. As someone pointed out, enter your pick-up and destination and your suggested price. You may get counter-offers. If nothing happens raise your price 1 mil. Easey Peasy.
I think people should know that outside of the Parque Lleras area, taxis are just fine. Of course it would help if you can articulate in Spanish where you want to go. Failing that give him the destination written on a card or piece of paper. I'm pretty friendly with a group of ex-pats that are living here and I haven't heard of any incidents or problems with a taxi.
I had a problem in another country. I had to open a new uber account. Uber blocked me from using the app unless I paid the credit card chargeback. I used a different card and e-mail address to open a new account and it's like it never happened. It wasn't even enough money to justify the inconvenience but I feel it's important to give Uber some incentive to keep tricky drivers in line.
If your credit card charges back from Uber, they may permanently ban you. Consider that.
That said, this is a VERY common and VERY intentional scam in Medellin. It is extremely offensive Uber is being so stupid to pretend they don't know you're reporting the typical Medellin scam. The idiots did it to me in the middle of the day there. I would go to the same mall 5-6 days a week. And he drove around for like 2 hours after and went to parts of the city I never go to. I contacted Uber and said. Just look at the freaking map! I got out of the car at the mall that I have gone to every day almost for the past month. It is obvious fraud.
I think I got a refund and it was all fixed, but sadly I can't say 100% because I don't remember carefully checking.
I always use inDriver and it's always in cash. You put in the amount your willing to pay and drivers will accept it or offer a counter offer. I have never had a problem with InDriver. Avoid using regular taxis if possible tho, they have counterfeit bills they use to give you your change. Taxistas are scam artists.You have the option to pay the ride in cash.
Hey fellas, theres been a few posts lately about looking for "good" girls in Medellin for a GF,/ relationship. First this is not what this forum is about. Second a tell tale sign she's not. If she has photos at these nice restaurants in Poblado. I like to eat there too but don't go foolin yourselves fellas cause someones paying for those dinners and theyre not usually paying cause theyre interested in her personality. Haha just keep a sane head on your shoulders and don't take it all too seriously. Have fun here.
You can always switch your Uber to pay cash.My trip last year in Cali, I had to switch to "pay in cash" because it was a lot easier to get an uber that way. Someone explained to me the drivers preferred cash payment and most wouldn't come pick you up if you had it set for pay by credit card.
Thanks for quick reply, I have seen Calle Real but was not sure it was guest friendly, between Calle Real and Premier Plaza which one you think us better (in terms of amenities).I've stayed at both establishments, totally guest friendly. Calle Real is old and funky. If you stay there ask for a room at the back of the building as it will be quiet versus a room in the front. Premier Plaza is more modern, some rooms with jacuzzi tubs and fuck chairs, however you need to stay away from a room in the front, they can be very bright and hot and noisy, and immediately behind the Hotel you can at times hear noise from the bars along the street. If you stay there, ask for a room in the middle, it will be the quietest. Not sure whether they have a joiner fee meaning if your staying overnight whether they will charge a fee for bringing in multiple Chicas. Years ago it was unlimited but I think they charge a joiner fee, maybe 10,000 COP. There's no air conditioning at either place, and both will have hot water (hopefully). Just be advised thought that if you've never been here before, are an obvious gringo with no Spanish speaking skills it can be dicey after around 9 PM walking around alone, especially along the passage way from Calle Real down to Premier Plaza by the Veracruz Church. As far as amenities, well you will be lucky if you get a room that has a toilet seat, let alone a showerhead. There's no AC at these places, so if I had to choose, and I wanted something more modern then Premier Plaza might work for you. And of course Nutibarra is kind of old and funky as well, but for going out at night it would be a safer bet then the other too because there is direct access by taxi to the front door where as you will have to walk a ways to the ohters.
Thanks for quick reply, I have seen Calle Real but was not sure it was guest friendly, between Calle Real and Premier Plaza which one you think us better (in terms of amenities).Last time I stayed at Calle Real it was 40 mil per day for a basic room and they were chica friendly but charged a fee of 10 mil per visit for chicas. Also they need to have a cedula in order to come up to your room, Venezuelan cedulas were ok. This was in 2021 however so they may have raised the prices since then.
Premier Plaza I believe is currently 70 mil per day and they are chica friendly (obvio as it also functions as a short time hotel). Not sure what the visitor fee is there but I believe it's around 18 k per hour when used as a short term hotel so probably something like that for the visitor fee for people staying there per diem.
Thanks for quick reply, I have seen Calle Real but was not sure it was guest friendly, between Calle Real and Premier Plaza which one you think us better (in terms of amenities).In terms of amenities I have heard premier Plaza is better, I've only used it as a short time hotel, whereas with Calle Real I lived there for about a month back in 2021. I know Calle Real had a mini fridge in the room, a decent bed and flat screen TV with HDMI hook up for connecting a laptop and also had hot water.
I believe they said the room I used to stay in with the windows was going to be turned into a jacuzzi room, so they may offer a jacuzzi sweet at Calle Real now.
-Gabacho.
I just saw a video that said Lleras has changed after the construction. They mentioned the girls have moved. Is this true or have they just dispersed throughout the park?
JohnHancock11
05-20-23, 07:39
I just saw a video that said Lleras has changed after the construction. They mentioned the girls have moved. Is this true or have they just dispersed throughout the park?I was there a few days ago. The park itself looks good. There are still some girls walking around in the park area but not like before. The night I was there, many more girls were up on Calle 10 spread out over several blocks near the park. Of course the Lleras Park club still had plenty of chicas and I'm sure Gusto's did as well. I was only there one night on this trip.
Q.
I always use inDriver and it's always in cash. You put in the amount your willing to pay and drivers will accept it or offer a counter offer. I have never had a problem with InDriver. Avoid using regular taxis if possible tho, they have counterfeit bills they use to give you your change. Taxistas are scam artists.
My trip last year in Cali, I had to switch to "pay in cash" because it was a lot easier to get an uber that way. Someone explained to me the drivers preferred cash payment and most wouldn't come pick you up if you had it set for pay by credit card.I always pay in exact cash when using taxis. I never give them big bills, which is one of the reasons why I use my 50 k bills when making transactions in the stores no matter how small. I break it down to small bills so mainly any taxi transactions are one way such as me handing them the exact amount. Years back when I was leaving out of the MDE airport I was exchanging my cop back to usd and the money exchange handed me back a 2 k bill because it was counterfeit. So I just gave it to a taxi driver on my next trip. Of course it's not much money. I would've given it to a stripper or taxi cab driver there either way. Although I haven't been to a strip club Medellin quite some time now. As far as taking regular taxis, it can be tricky. Like if I'm in Plaza Botero and I want to take a cab to Poblado I'll walk over to carrera 46 Avenida oriental on the side that goes directly to Poblado. If I take a cab from Plaza Botero and say I want go to Poblado you could end up taking a full tour of Medellin. And if I'm in Poblado it's the direct opposite I'll take the cab from carrera 43 a on the side that goes in the direction towards el centro, but in this case I take it directly to Plaza Botero. I can go on about transportation what method is best such as cab, metro or even walking and that would depend on the time of day it is considering peaks hours and traffic. This is all based based on my experience of course. Last trip I tried to get a cab from Plaza Botero to Energy around 8 am in the morning, but they all were taken none were available, so I ended up walking. I never tried Uber or inDriver here, but if they take cash and I don't have to use or provide a credit car for the app I'm definitely going to give it a try.
I just saw a video that said Lleras has changed after the construction. They mentioned the girls have moved. Is this true or have they just dispersed throughout the park?Friday night I walked up to Parque Lleras from the Metro up Calle 10, and a few blocks below the Park on Calle 10, and past the Park, there were a lot of girls standing on the sidewalks.
Upon entering the Park they had it barricaded with entrances and cops. Upon walking thru the Park around 7 PM there were very few girls, at least obvious girls working, and things have changed around the Park with no cars, and tables in the streets and on the sidewalks in front of many of the places to eat and drink.
After having dinner in Provenza, I went back thru the Park after 9 PM, and there were girls in the Park scattered around, but they were not heavily concentrated in front of Gustos outside but it was early. What I did notice was at the entrance with the barricades off of Calle 10 around 9 PM, there was one cop, but he wasn't even checking people out who were entering or leaving.
So your question whether the girls have moved, well the answer is yes and no.
Prior to the Pandemic there were very few girls working Calle 10, but with the Park re-opened they are now inside but it appears as though they are not allowed to be loitering in large groups like before inside the Park, that is at least my theory. I saw no more than two girls together inside the Park, versus sometimes a heard of girls inside the Park. But later in the evening who knows, perhaps it's exactly as before.
However I did see groups of upwards of eight girls together along Calle 10, and believe the Police would break that up inside the Park, but my observations are at one point in time, and I wasn't there later in the evening as I mentioned.
I think how they have barricaded the Park, and the surrounding areas with the outdoor seating like in Provenza is a good thing. The remodeling of the Park turned out well after a long time but still isn't completely done and a lot of the side streets are still tore up.
Perhaps someone else has been out later in the evening in front of Gustos and can share what they observed within the Park.
There also is a lot of new building construction projects and remodeling going on around the Park. I think the area is poised to really take off and become kind of like the Provenza area with all the tourists.
I have no knowledge of the politics in Medellin, but my theory is that since the Medellin is becoming so touristy now, they are trying to better control the tourist spots like the Botero area, and now Parque LLeras.
Just my observations and theories after a stroll thru the Park. Someone else may have a different take based on their observations.
I never tried Uber or inDriver here, but if they take cash and I don't have to use or provide a credit car for the app I'm definitely going to give it a try.No credit card needed for either app. A third app, DiDi, is usually a little cheaper than Uber, but recently there seems to be less DiDi drivers.
Nil Admirari
05-20-23, 14:53
I've lived here for almost 4 years now. I take taxis everywhere and I don't have any bad experiences to report. Of course if you are getting your taxis at Parque Lleras or close by. Then there might be someone trying to take advantage. Afterall that is the tourist zone where the rich foreigners stay......
We've probably flogged the Uber / Taxi horse to near death (to be sure, an uber-prosaic topic for a mongering board), but I thought that I'd get in one more whack at the horse's near corpse in order to share a couple of lessons learned from navigating the streets of Medellin over the past four years or so.
As Villainy has noted, taxis are generally safe (with the exception of some of the drivers hanging out near Parque Lleras), but I'd add that that's with one important exception that newbies should keep in mind. On 3 or 4 occasions (out of 100's of rides) I've had drivers conveniently "forget" to turn the meter on at the beginning of the trip and then try to charge double or triple the reasonable rate. As soon as you enter the cab, try to remember to check that the meter has started running.
After having used taxis exclusively for several years, I now tend to divide my trips between cabs and Uber based on the following considerations:
If I'm familiar with my destination, I know roughly what the trip should cost, and I'm in a location with plenty of taxis passing by, I'll just jump in a cab. This often saves the sometimes prolonged wait for a ride-share driver to accept the ride and show up.
However, if I've never been to the destination (and it's not near some landmark familiar to everyone e.g. Plaza Botero, a Centro Commercial) then I take an Uber since all of their drivers have the Uber Map app or use WAZE. By contrast, many taxi drivers are Luddites, who don't use smart phones with WAZE or Google maps. On several occasions I've had to sit out their driving around cluelessly for 15 minutes or more trying to find my destination address, and sometimes having to call someone at the destination to get help. In a couple of cases (e.g. coming from Laureles to an obscure Envigado address) the driver has given up altogether and returned me home. This would never happen with Uber, In-Driver, or the other rider apps.
I have had a couple of chicas tell me that they have had problems with taxi drivers at night (theft; sexual assault), but I don't have a sense that (statistically) that's a risk that us aging lechers have to much worry about. I do sometimes, especially late at night, take a good look at the driver before getting in his car, and, if I get a bad vibe, wave him away. Always happiest to find an older driver with religious medallions on the dashboard who crosses himself every time he passes by a church.
P.S.: Hola, Villainy.
taxis are generally safe ...As soon as you enter the cab, try to remember to check that the meter has started running.
Even better, just live in El Centro, then you don't need a taxi. **shrugmoji**.
This is the problem here. When you try to post or give out right info. Some one would love to argue because he thinks he knows better. HaHa.
I was at La Isla Thursday or Friday night. Cover was 80 mil peso, it was posted at enterance. It was packed with tourist. They had some disney world parade style show going on with dudes making it rain on stage.
Pyrotechniques released so much smog that it was unbareable to be there.
Beer / water / gatorade you had to buy two minimum upto 80 mil peso. Chicks were too busy on the phone.
Playing american and techno music instead of local.
It was waste of night.
over all Medellin is becoming more expensive. i think chicas are dominating scene better then mongers this year as compare to pre covid era. there is that limited supply of FB chicas 80% of them are on every one's friend list. so they are not Semi pro any more. HaHa.
Please note entrance fee at la ISLA is 50 K not 80, says so at the door. A corona beer is about 32 K not 40 and yes you can buy one.
Trying to do my part, sharing info.
PS>>>
went to La ISLA at least twice but didnt partake, went during a slow night and on a weekend where it was packed. I was quoted in dollars and 300-600K for one hour in one of the rooms. There were some stunners in there as well as weekend bros throwing money at Chicas.
One skinny (slim) blonde or fake blonde Chica came to sit next to me and we engaged in a convo, still not very fluent in spanish (I speak mostly Porto) but can manage. I guess she thought she was the shit as she quoted me 600K without batting an eye. I calmly asked her why am I getting different prices from Chicas (300K pesos now her at 600K) after a few mins she mumbled something that she need to do and got up and left. As I was leaving the club, she was sitting by herself, our eyes locked and we both smiled at each other.
There was another cute chica, kinda tall with a great body, at least an 8 on anyones scale, she spoke a bit of English, asked how much she wanted, quoted me 100 USD to go back in the room, I asked her to quote in pesos, she wanted 400K (current exchange rate ranged from 4484 to 4619 during the week) I countered with 300K but she stood firm at 400k, being quoted in pesos was a 60k difference, 60 K isnt the issue, it is taking control of the transaction not allowing the Chica to dictate the price and conversion rate.
Spent rest of my time in Laureles after that, theres an abundance of regular real cute Chicas out there and some casas.
This is the problem here. When you try to post or give out right info. Some ding dong would love to argue because he thinks he knows better. HaHa.
I was at La Isla Thursday or Friday night. Cover was 80 mil peso, it was posted at enterance. It was packed with tourist. They had some disney world parade style show going on with dudes making it rain on stage.
Pyrotechniques released so much smog that it was unbareable to be there.
Beer / water / gatorade you had to buy two minimum upto 80 mil peso. Chicks were too busy on the phone.
Playing american and techno music instead of local.
It was waste of night.La isla use to be 20 k entrance and a mixture of people between locals and tourists. Taking the girl upstairs was 300 mil. The girls were truly hot and they use to be open to whatever desire you had and if one girl wouldn't another would.
Now its 80 k to enter the girls are not as hot and they won't do basic things like BBBJ etc. And their prices to take them out is a million min just for them.
This has happened because gringos are going and half the time they're not even banging these girls and paying them a million cop to dance and cuddle. This is the pathetic trend. Then these idiots come home and talk about how they're bagging such hot girls and how ez it is when I'm reality they're just paying prostitutes.
I have personally seen guys pay 1000 usd to a girl there. She was a friend. She told me the guy barely had sex cause he was too wrecked to get hard.
This is the pathetic trend that is ruining medellin and giving these girls ridiculous egos.
Mr Enternational
05-21-23, 00:17
This is the problem here. When you try to post or give out right info. Some one would love to argue because he thinks he knows better. HaHa.
I was at La Isla Thursday or Friday night. Cover was 80 mil peso, it was posted at enterance.Is it possible they are doing different things on different nights? One night where it is slower could be 50 and a night where they had all going on that you say, the price could be jacked up to 80. You both could be right.
La isla use to be 20 k entrance and a mixture of people between locals and tourists. Taking the girl upstairs was 300 mil. The girls were truly hot and they use to be open to whatever desire you had and if one girl wouldn't another would.
Now its 80 k to enter the girls are not as hot and they won't do basic things like BBBJ etc. And their prices to take them out is a million min just for them.
This has happened because gringos are going and half the time they're not even banging these girls and paying them a million cop to dance and cuddle. This is the pathetic trend. Then these idiots come home and talk about how they're bagging such hot girls and how ez it is when I'm reality they're just paying prostitutes.
I have personally seen guys pay 1000 usd to a girl there. She was a friend. She told me the guy barely had sex cause he was too wrecked to get hard.
This is the pathetic trend that is ruining medellin and giving these girls ridiculous egos.It was ruined by youtubers. Every day, I mean daily, multiple youtubers post videos from Colombia advertising it as sex paradise full of hot girls and for cheap. What used to be secret intel you could find only on this forum is now everybody secret. It will never get better it will get just worse and worse like Thailand. There is really nothing you can do so just enjoy while it last, once something is in decline it never comes back to its former glory unless global economy collapses and simps run out of money.
Is there a gym somewhere within walking distance in El Centro. ?. I'll be staying at the Nutibara and need a place to flex my manly muscles.
DonCarlos1234
05-21-23, 05:48
La isla use to be 20 k entrance and a mixture of people between locals and tourists. Taking the girl upstairs was 300 mil. The girls were truly hot and they use to be open to whatever desire you had and if one girl wouldn't another would.
Now its 80 k to enter the girls are not as hot and they won't do basic things like BBBJ etc. And their prices to take them out is a million min just for them.
This has happened because gringos are going and half the time they're not even banging these girls and paying them a million cop to dance and cuddle. This is the pathetic trend. Then these idiots come home and talk about how they're bagging such hot girls and how ez it is when I'm reality they're just paying prostitutes.
I have personally seen guys pay 1000 usd to a girl there. She was a friend. She told me the guy barely had sex cause he was too wrecked to get hard.
This is the pathetic trend that is ruining medellin and giving these girls ridiculous egos.Yes and the buzz that we hear, the videos of people walking around spewing their BS bring more of the same. Then idiots making it rain. Kinda like the USA hip hop world mentality, big asses and stupid people. HEY, look at me I have $. The hot girls are still there. They are more selective now. Cost maybe 20-40% more. Still incredible. You won't find them in the US under what $300 for an ugly SW? . Patience and persistence is now your best game. I found 2 extremely good looking girls, got their numbers and had them meet at my hotel 2 days later. Never left my seat, was polite to everyone (even the fatties) and succeeded. I'll be back in 3 weeks. It takes 9-10 hours on a plane from Vegas (or me) . Florida is 3-4, NYC is 5. No wonder it's full of shit for brains people. (just kidding).
JohnnyWalker55
05-21-23, 10:39
Q.
I always pay in exact cash when using taxis. I never give them big bills, which is one of the reasons why I use my 50 k bills when making transactions in the stores no matter how small. .Just a nota bona for you guys out there, there are various ways to break the 50 k bills.
1) use them at a big store when getting a 10-20 k recarga for your sim card.
2) go to a big casino at la playa and get smaller notes at the cashier box.
3) use it to buy a 5 k metro card.
4) use an ATM at an open colpatria or davivienda branch (lots in the malls) and walk to the teller and they give you as many 10-20 k notes as you want.
Happy mongering.
Jw.
Is there a gym somewhere within walking distance in El Centro. ?. I'll be staying at the Nutibara and need a place to flex my manly muscles.There are a couple up on Ave Oriental, close to the La Playa intersection. BodyTech is one of them. Can't recommend bcos I don't go to those places. Those are not the type of muscles I look to flex.
In terms of amenities I have heard premier Plaza is better, I've only used it as a short time hotel, whereas with Calle Real I lived there for about a month back in 2021. I know Calle Real had a mini fridge in the room, a decent bed and flat screen TV with HDMI hook up for connecting a laptop and also had hot water.
I believe they said the room I used to stay in with the windows was going to be turned into a jacuzzi room, so they may offer a jacuzzi sweet at Calle Real now.
-Gabacho.Wow great to hear from someone who has personal experience with both hotels, I am planning to book one of them for one day and then decide where to spend rest to the time after looking on both when I reach there, I have to visit Medellin from August 3 to August 23 , I know that this area is a little dangerous (I have been there only 2 times but only in daylight) , do to think its too dangerous to stay there as you have personal experience staying that area?
I also visited La Isla Monday night with fellow new bee from here. just to chk out the talent. They charged 40 mil cover weekdays. And 220 mil for 6 corona small size bottles. if you want to seat upfront then you must buy big liquor bottle.They are nuts. And fase dos is no different. Went there with seasoned ISG member on Friday night. cover was 30 mil and For Absolute vodka 200 or 250 ML bottle, it was 220 mil peso. Yikes. Parque lleras Vennies will quote 300 mil for 1 session. They have union over there. Haha.
And pick up bars were even higher 300 to 350 mil peso for chicas and bar fine of 100 mil peso. Its like you need HELOC to go to Colombia now. HaHa.
Is it possible they are doing different things on different nights? One night where it is slower could be 50 and a night where they had all going on that you say, the price could be jacked up to 80. You both could be right.
....They are nuts. And fase dos is no different. .... HaHa.A whisky and coke used to be about 25 mil at La Isla. You get a table and pretty good service from a waiter whether you are alone or with a group. A session was about 270 the first time I went to the club. I remember there was no cover at Fase2 before and on site session was about 160 mil. I could be wrong with these numbers as it was before Covid
.... Upon walking thru the Park around 7 PM there were very few girls, at least obvious girls working....I had an appointment at 10 AM in El Poblodo. I had a online meeting from 9 AM t0 10 AM on a short notice. I figured the park would be quiet so I had my meeting in the park. There were a couple of street artists selling painting or portraits. THere were also a row of tents selling souvenirs, same as Plaza Botero. Most of the surface on the surrounding streets were painted. There were two girls working. I noticed many features of the park that I did not notice at night. There were many groups of gringos around the area. I couldn't help and took this picture.
Just got quoted 450 mil for an hour + taxi fee from a Prepagos girl. Am I tripping or is that way too high. I'the rather get 2 pops at a casa for 140 k.
I had an appointment at 10 AM in El Poblodo. I had a online meeting from 9 AM t0 10 AM on a short notice. I figured the park would be quiet so I had my meeting in the park. There were a couple of street artists selling painting or portraits. THere were also a row of tents selling souvenirs, same as Plaza Botero. Most of the surface on the surrounding streets were painted. There were two girls working. I noticed many features of the park that I did not notice at night. There were many groups of gringos around the area. I couldn't help and took this picture.Ha ha yea flipflops. That's gringo alright!
VsebudetNY
05-21-23, 22:23
Just a nota bona for you guys out there, there are various ways to break the 50 k bills.
1) use them at a big store when getting a 10-20 k recarga for your sim card.
2) go to a big casino at la playa and get smaller notes at the cashier box.
3) use it to buy a 5 k metro card.
4) use an ATM at an open colpatria or davivienda branch (lots in the malls) and walk to the teller and they give you as many 10-20 k notes as you want.
Happy mongering.
Jw.Good tips, JW!
Just want to add another method that I've been using for years, and you don't need to step away from ATM LOL.
If you're using Schwab or Capital One or other card that refunds ATM fees then after your main withdrawal of 1 or 2 millions just make 1/2/3 withdrawals 80 K each. You'll receive 4/8/12 20 K bills.
If you're still using the card with ATM fees then just select other amount and enter 1,980,000 instead of 2,000,000 or 980,000 instead of 1,000,000 and you will get 4 20 K bills right away.
One more time reminder for new members - ALWAYS decline conversion at ATM!
StudBucket
05-21-23, 23:22
Hello, with some much talk about Gustos on this forum, I am wondering if anyone can tell us how Lleras Park Nightclub has been recently? I found it to be better on Friday and Saturday night than Gusto's last trip and the women can be had for no more than $80-120 USA Dollars. They are all freelancers in the club.
There are a couple up on Ave Oriental, close to the La Playa intersection. BodyTech is one of them. Can't recommend bcos I don't go to those places. Those are not the type of muscles I look to flex.See you in Mid June if you are still around then. Lunch at Govindas sounds good.
DonMedellin
05-22-23, 01:47
Do flight attendants all live in Rio Negro? Couldn't help but notice 8/10 of them are hot. Has any of you dated them?
Do flight attendants all live in Rio Negro? Couldn't help but notice 8/10 of them are hot. Has any of you dated them?Yes, they all live in Rio Negro. Lol
LoveItHere
05-22-23, 04:49
I always go to ATM before the weekend hits because the ATMs run out of money and the lines are long. But I ran out of money on a few weekends and actually got lucky late Saturday (maybe it was Sunday). The ATMs pay out the big bills first. When I got there all the 50's and 20's were gone so it was spitting out 10's so I stocked up both times. Do not rely on this method. But as you pass by an ATM on the weekend pay attention to the people counting their money as they walk away and see what denominations they have and maybe get in line.
Unfortunately there are no guest friendly hotels in and around the area you described.But I read previously in this thread that hotel nutibara is guest friendly?
Is it possible they are doing different things on different nights? One night where it is slower could be 50 and a night where they had all going on that you say, the price could be jacked up to 80. You both could be right.E, I went there 2 nights -Monday, very slow and on Friday and it was packed, I was charged 50 K. At first, I thought I was being scammed but on the second visit I noticed the sign on the door which in fact said 50 K. They must be changing the price on a whim. Now another member posted he paid 40 K pesos. If we don't take control of these prices, before long La ISL will be charging 100-150 K entrance fee.
Here's an idea -gather up a few mongers (at least 5) go there and if they try to charge 50-80 K pesos, ask to be let in for 30 or 40 K if not go to Fase 2.
No need to make a scene or raise your voice in fact be real cool and if they refuse, simply let them know that you will be going elsewhere with your dollars.
DownLow123
05-22-23, 05:37
Is there a gym somewhere within walking distance in El Centro. ?. I'll be staying at the Nutibara and need a place to flex my manly muscles.You will save yourself time to walk to the nearest smartfit (which is laureles unicemtro mall) someone correct me if I'm wrong. Smartfit line seems to be the best gym in south america, and for the serious gym rat, like myself. If I were you I'd hop in a taxi or take an indriver to the gym and back. It'll be about $4 usd for the trip. I personally used unicentro smartfit and had squat macjines, a place for heavy deadlifts, they charge 80 k cop for a month membership which is on the expensive side, but worth it. Save yourself the headache.
Wow great to hear from someone who has personal experience with both hotels, I am planning to book one of them for one day and then decide where to spend rest to the time after looking on both when I reach there, I have to visit Medellin from August 3 to August 23 , I know that this area is a little dangerous (I have been there only 2 times but only in daylight) , do to think its too dangerous to stay there as you have personal experience staying that area?Don't go around flexing your gold chains or flashing your money or iPhone around and you will be just fine in this area. It is no more dangerous than santa fe in Bogota.
I will search the forum for answers but looking for best guest friendly Airbnb's and hotels in Laureles. Any info appreciated.
JohnnyWalker55
05-22-23, 08:26
Just got quoted 450 mil for an hour + taxi fee from a Prepagos girl. Am I tripping or is that way too high. I'the rather get 2 pops at a casa for 140 k.Assuming they don't speak spanish and can't go for non-pros, new MDE mongers are left with three options:
1) get the wham bam non GFE service from the seasoned casa girls in centro (zandalay, dulce, amigas sexy, etc).
2) stick out like a sore thumb at ground zero and risk robbery / violence for cheap vennies.
3) pay out the ass for an online girl that doesn't look like her pictures.
Or, la isla or fase 2 or gustos if you want to be a mark.
Any "7+ " paisa worth their salt has figured out the instagram / onlyfans game, and don't need to sell themselves for 50 k cop anymore. May have some luck on seeking arrangements.
There is no more gringo allure or charm, it's expected.
Best bet, learn spanish and blend to get a non pro.
A little off topic from your post, yes.
Medellin is the new cartagena, the locals see a foreigner and know they're here for degenerate sex. Anti-gringo sentiment is very high and will only increase. Not going to sugar coat it.
Elvis 2008
05-22-23, 10:07
Yes and the buzz that we hear, the videos of people walking around spewing their BS bring more of the same. Then idiots making it rain. Kinda like the USA hip hop world mentality, big asses and stupid people. HEY, look at me I have $. The hot girls are still there. They are more selective now. Cost maybe 20-40% more. Still incredible.DC, I swear I am in this parallel universe in that the Colombia I see is so much different than what other guys see. On the one hand, I read Colombians and their $500 a month salaries and the like, but I see the Iphones and the fancy cars and I know things do not add up. I have been to poorer countries where the women wanted more money. I think pussy got cheap in Colombia because of the Venezuelan invasion and things in Venezuela are not as bad as they were so pussy was going to get more expensive because of that.
Meanwhile, my gal has a death in the family and she gets an inheritance. The family member owned a farm. I actually went there. It did not look like much on the outside, but the land was incredibly valuable and she got a share of the animals. I couldn't calculate an exact figure but those cows were worth a lot more than I thought. And where the farm was, the grasslands North of Bogota, have great fields for cattle grazing. I wondered how much of the farming business outside of the drugs is being kept off the books. It was kind of staggering how much the businesses this family member had added up to. I wonder how many Americans would have assumed this Colombian family member was poor.
My gal stayed with her cousins and their house was stunning. The gal I was dating before this one had a house in the city of Apartado that was like 3,000 square feet and it too was nice. When I was on a tour of Cartagena, the guide was pointing to the million dollar homes in Bocagrande and Castillogrande, and yet the average American thinks of Colombia as poor right?
You won't find them in the US under what $300 for an ugly SW? . Patience and persistence is now your best game. I found 2 extremely good looking girls, got their numbers and had them meet at my hotel 2 days later. Never left my seat, was polite to everyone (even the fatties) and succeeded. I'll be back in 3 weeks. It takes 9-10 hours on a plane from Vegas (or me) . Florida is 3-4, NYC is 5. No wonder it's full of shit for brains people. (just kidding).Don, I was in Miami when Avianca started back direct flights from Miami to Cartagena. Avianca and the Miami airport made a bit of a party out of it. They had speakers and a podium and like some free drinks and food. Anyway, the airport guy said Colombia was Miami's #1 international destination. So you have our government do this crazy fucking $10 trillion Covid stimulus package, and it is crazy to think that some of that money would not find its way to Colombia.
Thing is one of my best friends is in Florida and he is bothered by the easy money so many people there have come into. Apparently, the best land to build on in Florida is the ones where they grow citrus, and he built on land previously used to grow citrus. His city has grown like a weed, and the traffic is unreal. Still, he pays little in property taxes because he gets an agricultural exemption because he lets cattle feed on his property. At some point, a famer needs to ask himself if this insane tax policy is going to be kept up. Why is there a tax break for some farmer raising cattle or growing citrus in what is now suburban Florida? Wouldn't it make more sense to sell the farm for millions to some condo developer and move your operation to Colombia where the land and help is so much cheaper? We have a free trade deal with Colombia right?
For some reason, the airlines overestimate the times from Florida to Colombia. In reality, it is two hours from Miami to Cartagena and like two and a half to Medellin and Bogota. What is so disgusting for those of us in Texas is nonstops from here are four figures because of monopoly pricing. But because you have like five or six airlines competing on routes, flights from Florida are dirt cheap. So a three day weekend is cheap with regards to time spent and air fares cost, and it is crazy to think that the huge money flowing into Florida is not going to go to Colombia too. Why bother with the $500 an hour hooker in Miami versus a better one for a fraction of that cost in Colombia?
You lived in Tijuana in Mexico and saw it change as American money flowed in. Now companies are moving their factories from Mexico to China because labor is cheaper in Mexico. The peso has gone from 20 to the dollar to 17 now, and I think the peso will continue to get stronger. The Mexican women I know may not be rich, but they are not desperate. Maybe it is just me but I do not see that desperation in Colombia either. Thing is I think people have totally forgotten about Covid and how hard Colombia shut down. Those were desperate times because so few people could work or earn a living. It is crazy to compare those days to now.
Is there a gym somewhere within walking distance in El Centro. ?. I'll be staying at the Nutibara and need a place to flex my manly muscles.I agree with DownLow123. Your best bet for price and value is likely SmartFit although it will be a cab ride, albeit short and cheap. If you're hear for a week I'd do that. I've found BodyTech to be a bit pretentious and to be more difficult for sign up as a foreigner. The one issue with SmartFit is that some locations allow day passes and others do not. I for one typically find the month pass at 50 k to 100 k (ie $12 to $18) depending on location to still be good value for 5 to 7 trips over a week. Remember to bring a copy of your passport as they oddly need that (as opposed to other ID).
Going to Medellin in mid July....
I will probably do a little pay for play but not making it the focus of my trip.
Do you guys prefer Poblado or Laureles? My spanish is probably at 15%.
Have any of you guys been successful in banging girls out there without paying for it?Yes, but it's largely dependent upon your age, fluency in Spanish, and spending time with the girl. I used to have my trips spread out as 1/3 prepagos (ie casas, clubs), 1/3 semi-pros (ie the less hardcore FB girls), and 1/3 non-pros (ie girls I'd meet through friends or on street). With the latter you have a lot of challenges, but it can be done after a couple nice dates, convincing them that you're not a monger, and having some connection to Colombia or Medellin. Non-pros go out with tight nit groups and families in Colombia, not looking to 'hook up' like in the US so it's hard to break that circle. But again, can be done. For each 10-12 day trip I'd usually have dates with 2-3 non-pros and maybe 1-2 would be able to hook up with. If nothing else you get to work on your Spanish, although the initial interactions can be frustrating and awkward.
Wow! HELP. That was my first introduction to mongering back in like 2004 or so. My goodness. I swear if that place was open today I don't think I would have even ventured into Colombia.
The atompshere, the vibe, the energy the shear SIZE of it. I loved how it felt like a real club and it was like even though all the girls were working you still felt like there wasn't this hard sell from the girls.
I think I banged to this day the most beauitful girl there ever, but my goodness she was on a next level in terms of understanding men and how to manipulate them. I was way too young to even understand but damn.
Soo so sooo many good fucks there, There will never be anything like it again at the size that was. I think it was even taughted as "the largest club in south america" it just so happend to have working girls there.
If you look in my profile you can see reports of it in the rio fourm somehwere. Props for the reminder.I first stumbled onto that club during Carnival at the age of 24 and think that club was a good part of the reason I got into the hobby and never go married LOL. Surely saved me some money over the long run ha ha.
I will search the forum for answers but looking for best guest friendly Airbnb's and hotels in Laureles. Any info appreciated.You won't find much on guest friendly airbnbs. An individual airbnb may allow a guest one day and then change their house rules and not allow it. You can look at Airbnb listings, see what the listing says under the "rules" section, and sometimes under the safety and security section, and guest comments. And you can usually know which ones do NOT allow guests. But to be sure you will need to check with the host before booking. However sometimes you will see listings on Airbnb for some of the more common spots such as San Peter in Laureles, Energy Living, or places that P o be l a the o Rentals have, and these are or have been guest friendly. They show up under hotel searches, booking.com searches, Airbnb, etc.
E, I went there 2 nights -Monday, very slow and on Friday and it was packed, I was charged 50 K. At first, I thought I was being scammed but on the second visit I noticed the sign on the door which in fact said 50 K. They must be changing the price on a whim. Now another member posted he paid 40 K pesos. If we don't take control of these prices, before long La ISL will be charging 100-150 K entrance fee.
Here's an idea -gather up a few mongers (at least 5) go there and if they try to charge 50-80 K pesos, ask to be let in for 30 or 40 K if not go to Fase 2.
No need to make a scene or raise your voice in fact be real cool and if they refuse, simply let them know that you will be going elsewhere with your dollars.Join the mongers union now. We'll teach them what to charge. Nice idea, but I don't think that will change very much.
But as a group they might give you a break if you asked nicely as you suggest. That is very possible.
You won't find much on guest friendly airbnbs. An individual airbnb may allow a guest one day and then change their house rules and not allow it. You can look at Airbnb listings, see what the listing says under the "rules" section, and sometimes under the safety and security section, and guest comments. And you can usually know which ones do NOT allow guests. But to be sure you will need to check with the host before booking. However sometimes you will see listings on Airbnb for some of the more common spots such as San Peter in Laureles, Energy Living, or places that P o be l a the o Rentals have, and these are or have been guest friendly. They show up under hotel searches, booking.com searches, Airbnb, etc.Most Abnb's that do not allow guests are explicit about it on their listing under the Rules section. If it is a bit vague, I always sent a message to the host asking about their guest policy and they will tell you. I always recommend that you confirm the guest policy on an Airbnb before booking. The hosts usually get back to you quickly. There are many great Abnb's that I would love to stay in except for their guest policy. If you want to bring girls back to your place, it does eliminate a good number of wonderful places to stay.
San Peter is the old standby and you can't go wrong there. The only complaint I have is noise issues with that nightclub next door.
DiscoverFL
05-22-23, 15:19
I will search the forum for answers but looking for best guest friendly Airbnb's and hotels in Laureles. Any info appreciated.You can look for Airbnb's with private entrance, keylock / code entrance (you never meet anyone). Those basically don't care, since they are not monitoring. Some more affordable places in Manila (down the hill from Laureles); yet still in the middle of everything.
Silver Turtle
05-22-23, 15:27
Calle Real and Premier Plaza and various others up in prado area a cpl blocks up the street from hotel nutibara (if you have the cajones to stay in that area LOL).I briefly met a young guy with mental problem and a loud redneck guy who stayed at Premier Plaza last year. I heard that the hotel is noisy and sometimes guests' money are stolen. I saw some gringos in the area. All were unattractive guys and some look creepy. They all sounded like highs chool graduates or dropout, and no college graduate. They stood out and the locals hated them. The area looks safe but I know tons of gringos and Colombians who were robbed there.
But I read previously in this thread that hotel nutibara is guest friendly?That was an example of sarcasm. It's harder to find a hotel in El Centro that isn't guest friendly than it is to find one that is.
E, I went there 2 nights -Monday, very slow and on Friday and it was packed, I was charged 50 K. At first, I thought I was being scammed but on the second visit I noticed the sign on the door which in fact said 50 K. They must be changing the price on a whim. Now another member posted he paid 40 K pesos. If we don't take control of these prices, before long La ISL will be charging 100-150 K entrance fee.
Here's an idea -gather up a few mongers (at least 5) go there and if they try to charge 50-80 K pesos, ask to be let in for 30 or 40 K if not go to Fase 2.
No need to make a scene or raise your voice in fact be real cool and if they refuse, simply let them know that you will be going elsewhere with your dollars.Because the doormen at strip clubs determine pricing and policy.
If you don't want to spend money at a strip club, instead of wasting time and money going to strip clubs where you'll need to spend money, go somewhere else.
I saw some gringos in the area. All were unattractive guys and some look creepy. They all sounded like highs chool graduates or dropout, and no college graduate. They stood out and the locals hated them.That was probably me. Why didn't you say Hello,?
Was bitching about prices a few posts ago but it is what is. Outcall from "Melissa Fitness" from prepagos. I'm a gym rat, I squat 400 lbs, She made me look like I've never touched a weight in my life. Insane physique, massive quads even by my standards, damage was 450 k for 2 in an hour. Showed up at that exact minute I asked which is surprising most chicas are like 30 minutes late from my experience. She was honestly really cool and had a great attitude, face was kinda weird but not ugly. Would recommend and might repeat.
BTW met a girl on tinder who is 30 years old who quoted me in fucking USD, and $120 at that. No thanks. I've been coming here since 2018 and I think the end is near.
I briefly met a young guy with mental problem and a loud redneck guy who stayed at Premier Plaza last year. I heard that the hotel is noisy and sometimes guests' money are stolen. I saw some gringos in the area. All were unattractive guys and some look creepy. They all sounded like highs chool graduates or dropout, and no college graduate. They stood out and the locals hated them. The area looks safe but I know tons of gringos and Colombians who were robbed there.Unattractive creepy gringos match perfectly with unattractive creepy SW girls. It is actually a good thing that they stay there and do their thing, away from nicer neighborhoods and decent gringos.
You can look for Airbnb's with private entrance, keylock / code entrance (you never meet anyone). Those basically don't care, since they are not monitoring. Some more affordable places in Manila (down the hill from Laureles); yet still in the middle of everything.Down the hill from Lleras, not Laureles.
You can look for Airbnb's with private entrance, keylock / code entrance (you never meet anyone). Those basically don't care, since they are not monitoring. Some more affordable places in Manila (down the hill from Laureles); yet still in the middle of everything.One of the drawbacks to Abnb's without any security, of course, is that you are open to being drugged and robbed. There will be no one checking the girls and watching them when they leave. I stayed at such a place and I felt there is also the possibility that someone can watch you enter your lock code and rob you when you are not home. The girl you are bringing to the place will be right next to you when you enter the code, and you have to be careful that she does not see the code.
I'm back in Medellin.
Anyone interested in meeting up? Lunch, dinner, or drinks. I don't drink but can hang out.
PigSavinBoy
05-22-23, 23:23
JohnG: Fucking gringos ruining the market for me!
Later that day...
JohnG: Hola bebe let's meet, what the price?
Chica: It's Gringo Price, mor.
JohnG: Alright fine with me, Cheaper than home.
Later that night...
JohnG: Will you suck it natural?
Chica: Bebe! That is an Extra Gringo Price, mi cielo.
JohnG: OK, cheaper than home.
3 minutes later...
Chica: Estoy cansada.
El fin.
On a side note, I don't visit New Life often, but last time I've been, a chica was quoting me extras in US dollars all of the sudden, saying how cheap it is for me and playing all indignant.
DiscoverFL
05-23-23, 00:29
Down the hill from Lleras, not Laureles.Sorry, mental fart, good catch.
Unattractive creepy gringos match perfectly with unattractive creepy SW girls It is actually a good thing that they stay there and do their thing, away from nicer neighborhoods and decent gringos.So are you saying that any gringo that stays in Centro is unattractive and creepy?
Ignoring what might be considered is an "unattractive gringo and "creepy", there are lots of gringos that live in nicer neighborhoods, such as in Poblado and Laureles who do their "thing" in Centro.
So perhaps this is a paradox.
Was bitching about prices a few posts ago but it is what is. Outcall from "Melissa Fitness" from prepagos. I'm a gym rat, I squat 400 lbs, She made me look like I've never touched a weight in my life. Insane physique, massive quads even by my standards, damage was 450 k for 2 in an hour. Showed up at that exact minute I asked which is surprising most chicas are like 30 minutes late from my experience. She was honestly really cool and had a great attitude, face was kinda weird but not ugly. Would recommend and might repeat.
BTW met a girl on tinder who is 30 years old who quoted me in fucking USD, and $120 at that. No thanks. I've been coming here since 2018 and I think the end is near.That sounds really off. I saw Melissa too, and it was $180 k / h. We went twice too in the hour.
Mr Enternational
05-23-23, 04:05
On a side note, I don't visit New Life often, but last time I've been, a chica was quoting me extras in US dollars all of the sudden, saying how cheap it is for me and playing all indignant.LOL. They always think that. Try showing them on the internet how much it costs for a small apartment in New York in pesos. You will not seem so rich after that.
I have a couple of chicks that have recently emigrated to the States. Shit is not as easy as they imagined. One from Honduras was living in Nashville and thing ls were not working out so she told me she would move to California. I said well that is going from the frying pan to the fire. Even I would not try moving to California. They do not realize that in most cases the first generation is going to struggle a lot while making things better for the their kids. It is not the first generation that will be tasting the milk and honey. They will be feasting on shit sandwiches.
Because the doormen at strip clubs determine pricing and policy.
If you don't want to spend money at a strip club, instead of wasting time and money going to strip clubs where you'll need to spend money, go somewhere else.If you enter a place and you only the workers are locals then you are getting ripped off. They can charge Colombian monthly salary believe me people will come.
Back during my 2019 trip I stayed with a big group at a high end airbnb. The host there had an agency who'the send maybe 30 photos of girls on WhatsApp all stunning and faces visible for us to choose from. They weren't cheap but great quality. I'the like something similar this trip but the agencies I've looked at all blur photos and don't seem to have the volume. I'm unsure whether the host this time will be as accommodating. Anyone know an agencies that do this or would be willing to do this once I build a relationship.
I've asked a few girls so far if they know of an agency and they have no idea what I'm talking about.
Blue Touch
05-23-23, 17:23
So are you saying that any gringo that stays in Centro is unattractive and creepy?
Ignoring what might be considered is an "unattractive gringo and "creepy", there are lots of gringos that live in nicer neighborhoods, such as in Poblado and Laureles who do their "thing" in Centro.
So perhaps this is a paradox.Since the covid years the El Centro, specially Veracruz area, has become a nestle of white trash hombres. Loud, overweight, uneducated gringos hung around there.
WillTravles2
05-23-23, 18:21
I'm back in Medellin.
Anyone interested in meeting up? Lunch, dinner, or drinks. I don't drink but can hang out.My first time in Medellin and would love to link up with some other like minded people.
So are you saying that any gringo that stays in Centro is unattractive and creepy?
Ignoring what might be considered is an "unattractive gringo and "creepy", there are lots of gringos that live in nicer neighborhoods, such as in Poblado and Laureles who do their "thing" in Centro.
So perhaps this is a paradox.I can't vouch for ANY gringo, but there is definitely a strong positive correlation. Same with SF in Bogota. The vast majority of decent, successful, intelligent people that I have met in Medellin or Bogota live in nicer neighborhoods (I have to say, there are some clowns / weekend warriors there too), and most of them have no business to do in El Centro / SF and never been there, because they don't need to. I can understand going there once in while to hit a casa or something, but living or staying there is questionable, and guys who do so, are mostly low lifes. If one has the coin, comes from a developed country, and prefers safety and comfort, staying in poor barrios makes no sense, it just won't fit their lifestyle. Very very few guys, like RiceRocket, can actually make it work.
WillTravles2
05-23-23, 18:39
Hey I've got a no doorman hotel 3 blocks from the center of Parque lleras. It's not my main place, I keep nothing in the room, it's only for fun. I'm trying to meet a few guys like myself who want to pick up a few different ladies and have a YOLO night. I'm talking sharing, swapping and all three doors open. No trans, no judgment, just not my thing.
You don't need to chip in for the room it's already paid for.
If anyone's interested we can set a time and meet outside Hookah. I only have it booked for tonight but if this go well this can be a regular thing. I'm in town for 2 weeks.
Mr Enternational
05-23-23, 19:29
I can understand going there once in while to hit a casa or something, but living or staying there is questionable, and guys who do so, are mostly low lifes. If one has the coin, comes from a developed country, and prefers safety and comfort, staying in poor barrios makes no sense, it just won't fit their lifestyle.In that case, one has to question that if one has the coin and comes from a developed country, then why even go to a developing country / shithole to begin with?
Did an early weekday walk through Lleras around 9. I see the girls on Called 10 but I side the park I'm not sure what is going on. Are the working girls now inside the bars? Can I just walk in?
I haven't gone into the bars as I don't drink. I don't know the etiquette but walked into what I thought was a bar and it was a night club that required bottle service.
Girls entering Lleras were ID'ed. It's a nice park with the upgrades but vastly different from November when I was there. I think I walked in at 8:30 and there were a crowd of girls by the entrance. When I left at 9, most were gone. Not sure if they were picked up or moved into the bars.
Tips here or DM appreciated.
UnknownGnome
05-23-23, 21:04
What is everyone's favourite massage parkour right now? I've been going to Abybos, Zen Spa, El Garage.
Any recommendations of parlours and specific girls? Look for HS mainly.
Did an early weekday walk through Lleras around 9. I see the girls on Called 10 but I side the park I'm not sure what is going on. Are the working girls now inside the bars? Can I just walk in?
I haven't gone into the bars as I don't drink. I don't know the etiquette but walked into what I thought was a bar and it was a night club that required bottle service.
Girls entering Lleras were ID'ed. It's a nice park with the upgrades but vastly different from November when I was there. I think I walked in at 8:30 and there were a crowd of girls by the entrance. When I left at 9, most were gone. Not sure if they were picked up or moved into the bars.
Tips here or DM appreciated.If you were walking early in the morning you would not be seeing many working girls. If you meant early in the evening at around 8 PM, yes there would be some on Calle 10 and probably in the park area, although I don't know how the checkpoints are affecting that. I was there in April before they had the checkpoints functioning at the entrances. But picking up chicas in parque Lleras, or on 10th is not that safe in my opinion. Lots of safer options in my opinion. As discussed in this forum. The casas, some of the strip clubs, etc.
You said you were there in November. I doubt that anything is different as far as the chicas on Calle 10 or in parque Lleras.
I can't vouch for ANY gringo, but there is definitely a strong positive correlation. Same with SF in Bogota. The vast majority of decent, successful, intelligent people that I have met in Medellin or Bogota live in nicer neighborhoods (I have to say, there are some clowns / weekend warriors there too), and most of them have no business to do in El Centro / SF and never been there, because they don't need to. I can understand going there once in while to hit a casa or something, but living or staying there is questionable, and guys who do so, are mostly low lifes. If one has the coin, comes from a developed country, and prefers safety and comfort, staying in poor barrios makes no sense, it just won't fit their lifestyle. Very very few guys, like RiceRocket, can actually make it work.This is not true. I prefer the high end and universally hotter girls.
But there are many gringos with successful lives that prefer the adventure and griminess of it all.
Imagine living in the ghetto your whole life and going into Beverly Hills. You'll be intrigued and mesmerized.
It goes the other way also. Imagine living in Beverly Hills all your life. Now you go into the hood and see girls for sale, drugs, etc. It's a fascination.
I've seen it many times.
But yes many times it's guys who are cheap and frugal.
But I don't think looks has anything to do with it. I have an obese millionaire friend. He'll get whatever he wants whenever he wants in Colombia.
Imagine living in Beverly Hills all your life. Now you go into the hood and see girls for sale, drugs, etc. It's a fascination.
I've seen it many times.
But yes many times it's guys who are cheap and frugal.
But I don't think looks has anything to do with it. I have an obese millionaire friend. He'll get whatever he wants whenever he wants in Colombia.What you are describing is an exception. Let's be real, how many Beverly Hills folks would like to go to a developing country to stay in the hood and interact with local prostitutes, druggies, etc? Eat street food? See trash and feces everywhere? And we are talking about living or staying there, not just taking a few hours tour with a guide to check it out.
What the other poster meant by "unattractive" is not necessarily a physical condition or body type, rather how one dresses, how one is groomed, how one presents himself. DJ Khaled is a millionaire, he is fat dude, but you can't say he looks like homeless / broke / druggie, and some folks I'm talking about forgot when was the last time they shaved or took a shower.
LoveItHere
05-24-23, 03:56
What the other poster meant by "unattractive" is not necessarily a physical condition or body type, rather how one dresses, how one is groomed, how one presents himself..Keep in mind that to be in Centro on a regular basis it is safest to dress down and act rough around the edges so people assume you have less money and education so are more likely to be more street smart and more likely to possibly fight back in a situation. Thus, scaring off thieves and deterring beggars from asking for money.
Not me though. I scream in the face of danger as I run in the opposite direction. I have an all natural lack of hygiene and behavioral issues. Since I left the basement with no mom to dress me correctly I have had more misses than hits in the dressing attire department but watching fashion ads on FB is helping tremendously. Also, on a higher note I went back to school 3 years ago and now I am a 7th grade graduate. My guess is that you and I probably have a lot in common and should meet for drinks sometime if I can ever get my ass back to Colombia again.
Coming up in July. Been reading the forum for a while. A few CR trips under my belt, ready to level up! Staying in Laureles July 18-24, got decent FB options already. Looking to find some out in the wild as well.
RamDavidson84
05-24-23, 05:34
As realistically as possible, how long could a mongering make it in Medellin if they had 1 million in cash? Could you go forever and budget your shit right. Make some money off the interest. Work some digital nomad gigs and make that shit last 20 years and live comfortably? Anyone thoughts from some people who have long term experience would be appreciated.
I should had clarified it was night. Parque Lleras in November and now is completely different. There are tables setup outside the restaurant on the road and people are eating and drink in those tables. No cars in or out.
I saw girls in bars but haven't jumped on it yet. I was only there for one night.
Walking back to my hotel, I had to walk past Parque de El Poblado and saw a cute working girl standing next to the stoplights. I first thought it was just a normal girl until I realized she never crossed the street. We made eye contact and she watched me as I walked past. I even glanced back if she was still looking, and yes she was. It was raining or j may have at least talked with her.
If you were walking early in the morning you would not be seeing many working girls.
Since the covid years the El Centro, specially Veracruz area, has become a nestle of white trash hombres. Loud, overweight, uneducated gringos hung around there.So it's starting to resemble Poblado?
DonCarlos1234
05-24-23, 09:44
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Girls entering Lleras were ID'ed. It's a nice park with the upgrades but vastly different from November when I was there.
Tips here or DM appreciated.That is amazing!
Too many videos promoting sex tourism pissed off the government & a lot of the locals. Buy a coffee. Chill and watch the show. Spend some $ at Marquee and make them happy.
DonCarlos1234
05-24-23, 09:55
My last trip to S. America was to Medellin 5 months ago. I found 4 stunners (near 9 -10's) and one repeat model (a 10) with widely varying prices. Only one girl of the dozen or so I met was under an 8. I was stupid horney from being in sex prison so a quick hand job seemed ok.
La Isla girls wanted 500 COP Isabella & the other Daniella was 800 COP I only had time for one, so I picked Daniela who stayed for over 3 hours. Yum. Repeat that one.
2 Sisters from Fase Dos Romaniq & Maria (met them separately) 23 year old wanted $300 USD for all night. I should have said yes but too many options. I countered 600 COP and got no reply. Yeah that was way too low for this girl. I was already spoiled. LOL I believe I was not her only option that night. Her 21 year old sister may have found out I was double timing them. It's OK, I already did them both multiple times for 300 COP in the club. They were both wild. Was a great time, multiple positions, some I had never dreamed of. O lord I have sinned. (The Cane).
Model friend from 2 previous visits Geraldine 3rd time and she's getting too expensive. I brought her gifts, she seemed to want more. 1,000 COP 2 hours. I need to slow down. She's a 10. I have someone who works with her and many, many more Colombian models. She sends me photos and asks if I am free. LOL.
Loutron. Jennifer –– WOW, met her 2 times for only 45 minutes but those memories I will keep, $350 COP Also brought some friends there on a tour. They will never be the same!
There were more, all came to my hotel (Dann Carlton) I tried to get 2 girls to fly down from Bogota. It was the beginning of the Christmas shopping season. So we could not make it happen then. I miss Medellin.
I would like to see Sao Paulo, Rio or even Buenos Aries and the beaches. But I think it's unlikely I can find anything better than what I already have had. Seems Scandallo costs even more than my 10's cost in Colombia. Geez one girl would marry me or live together in sin. LOL (22 years old blonde in flight attendant school. Another blonde speaks 6 languages, (FRENCH) plays violin and is a ballet dancer (both in Bogota) So getting on a long 16 hour+ flight seems I would find more 10's, 9's and lots of fun. But it will take time, cost more and MIGHT disappoint.
I get the feeling that real GFE is better in Colombia also. It takes a lot of time, $ and some luck. Why go anywhere else?
I like taking risks so if I can combine this with my art business in Brazil. I will do it anyway.
......I get the feeling that real GFE is better in Colombia also. It takes a lot of time, $ and some luck. Why go anywhere else?
I like taking risks so if I can combine this with my art business in Brazil. I will do it anyway.I suppose each man's experience can be different but I think getting with non-pros in Colombia is easier. However, GFE from pros in Brazil can't be beat.
DeanDone85
05-24-23, 14:13
I was in Medellin a cpl of years ago as part of S America tour with 4 lads. I wasn't really in the know as to what to expect but few years later and more worldwide travel has left me convinced that it pounds for pound heavyweight mongering destination of the world. I haven't been to SE Asia so am aware I could have my mind changed.
I only had a few days in Medellin. We stayed near Lleras and visited all the nearby places as well as a daytime tour to centro. Minimal Spanish was an issue but regardless the talent available was unreal. Fase Dos was a classy setup and had an unreal session with a slim blonde and then picked up 2 lovely venues from outside Gustos for a night I only have flashbacks of.
The chilled Latin vibe of the place and the ease with which you can get green, white and pink combined with cost just make it a no brainer.
I'm due to travel again to the region next month and am preparing fastidiously. What I am yet to really establish is the best way to arrange overnights. I like to party and am happy to have 1-2 girls back at mine. What's the best approach to arrange this and how much should a high end lady cost. Any advice or techniques appreciated. I'm 40, wealthy but am not insecure enough to feel I need to make it rain before I put my hat on.
Currently am going down the seeking route but I have a feeling that the contact bars like gustos will probably be better. Opinions welcomed but only if you've got some actual pitch side experience.
Thanks in advance.
All this recent recognition is going to my head. I'm starting to feel more like a celebrity than a Centro rat.
Since the covid years the El Centro, specially Veracruz area, has become a nestle of white trash hombres. Loud, overweight, uneducated gringos hung around there.
It appears it makes some feel more decent, intelligent, and accomplished than they may feel in their developed country.
In that case, one has to question that if one has the coin and comes from a developed country, then why even go to a developing country / shithole to begin with?
In that case, one has to question that if one has the coin and comes from a developed country, then why even go to a developing country / shithole to begin with?Because prostitution is illegal in Beverly Hills.
And if you have the coin you can always maintain more or less the same lifestyle you had back home. Nice apartment or a villa, best restaurants, best girls, whatever you want you can have it. What puzzles me is why come to a developing country to downgrade your lifestyle or even to risk your life.
Casa No Va
05-24-23, 15:33
Because prostitution is illegal in Beverly Hills.
And if you have the coin you can always maintain more or less the same lifestyle you had back home. Nice apartment or a villa, best restaurants, best girls, whatever you want you can have it. What puzzles me is why come to a developing country to downgrade your lifestyle or even to risk your life.As upper middle class I can choose to fly under the radar in a third world country. Not bring much attention on myself and have my budget extend way further. From cheap hotels to Hostels I've been able to stay in countries much longer not pay a premium for lodging and women and search for those diamonds in the rough in the slummier mongering locations. I speak Spanish fluently and have had great experiences without breaking the bank. For me a pretty comfy bed and a roof over my head is all I need. Plus meeting likeminded backpackers and world travelers from all walk of life is fun when staying in hostels. If I meet a higher maintenance type of girl I always have the option of a nicer love motel or booking a 5 star hotel for one or 2 nights if necessary. I'm not flashy nor am I dirty and unhygienic. Upper thirties, fit, decent looking white Latino dude and you will find me having fun in Santa Fe, Centro Medellin or Gringo Gulch CR. If I want to treat a great girl I find to luxury we can always take a trip somewhere like Guatape or the beach.
Analogy: I try not to assume well off people from any City when going out into the woods always go glamping. Maybe a tent and a sleeping bag and connecting with the raw somewhat dangerous nature of it all is exciting to some. To others maybe not.
Dcrist0527
05-24-23, 16:12
I saw the name Lexi pop up a few times recently on this board and references to Mileroticos. I'm not sure if I saw the same Lexi but a search did provide some assurance that it was likely the same Lexi. Set up a massage, 90 minutes. (I hate being rushed) Get to the place in Laureles without issue. Easy to find. Lexi answers the door and asks who I have an appointment with. Um, you. LOL. Obviously a few girls working out of this place. No worries. First impression she seems very kind. Really skinny girl, not skin and bones but a little skinnier than I prefer. Her face was average. Overall, appearance is probably a 6. 5 in my book. Not unattractive at all, just not my type. Go to a room that just smells like cat piss. If there's one real complaint, it's that smell. Massage was good. Above average. I chose Lexi based on the positive comments on the body slide and nuru. She did not disappoint. It was fantastic. It all ended with a 10 out of 10 hand job. During the slide we played just the tip for a bit. She's a really good girl and definitely wants to please. I imagine there's probably more to the menu. I didn't even ask. She was just not my type but I would recommend. I am even thinking about repeating, but really, why? So many options. Cost for everything was 220 k. 90 minute massage, body slide, etc. Probably cheaper options out there but I was pleased.
OldSchool318
05-24-23, 16:48
Because prostitution is illegal in Beverly Hills.
And if you have the coin you can always maintain more or less the same lifestyle you had back home. Nice apartment or a villa, best restaurants, best girls, whatever you want you can have it. What puzzles me is why come to a developing country to downgrade your lifestyle or even to risk your life.I can think of a couple reasons. Being in the concrete jungle is a rush to some of these guys.
Many also are coming from a place where the high end shit is expensive and they are trying to save coin. Maybe they would save coin anyway by just being there but in the end. That's the way they choose to do it.
I have done it both ways going low end and high end. Even in between. I love street girls so sometimes that's the way I do it. I also love higher end girls too.
In the end I am most concerned with did you have a good time.
Elvis 2008
05-24-23, 19:16
As realistically as possible, how long could a mongering make it in Medellin if they had 1 million in cash? Could you go forever and budget your shit right. Make some money off the interest. Work some digital nomad gigs and make that shit last 20 years and live comfortably? Anyone thoughts from some people who have long term experience would be appreciated.Look at muni bond funds, NHMAX is one of those funds and now is at a 5. 3% yield so that would be like $53,000 per year tax free. You would have a great life at that amount.
I follow a series of bond funds and some are paying around 10% now. CIF (LOL), DHY, BLW, PHT, PHK are bond funds yielding about 10% so that would be $100 k a year although I have not dived deep into these funds for a long time, and you have to pay taxes on that amount. I also think bonds are due to go up so it is a higher risk than munis but potentially a higher reward.
You can earn $112,000 a year tax free if you earn that money abroad, but that cannot be interest.
I am not sure if you can do it but it would be intriguing to see if you could have a company that invests in bonds, and the company gets that interest and you pay yourself a salary out of that. That is a job for lawyers and accountants, but I wonder if it could be done. Colombian taxes might ruin that scenario, but I am not sure.
The last thing is investing in Colombian real estate. A gal I was dating was going to build apartments in her home town, and I was stunned at the yields she was talking about getting. Also, my gal's mother and several of her aunts make a majority of their incomes as landlords. Given the much less risky 10 year bonds in Colombia yield around 12%. http://www.worldgovernmentbonds.com/country/colombia/, I could see someone doing really, really well being a landlord in Colombia. Can you imagine 25% or 30% yields as a landlord?
It makes me wonder what I am doing in the USA.
IAmThatGuy
05-24-23, 19:30
Hey I've got a no doorman hotel 3 blocks from the center of Parque lleras. It's not my main place, I keep nothing in the room, it's only for fun. I'm trying to meet a few guys like myself who want to pick up a few different ladies and have a YOLO night. I'm talking sharing, swapping and all three doors open. No trans, no judgment, just not my thing.
You don't need to chip in for the room it's already paid for.
If anyone's interested we can set a time and meet outside Hookah. I only have it booked for tonight but if this go well this can be a regular thing. I'm in town for 2 weeks.What is the name of the hotel? I have been looking for a no doorman apartment / hotel with guest friendly policy around parque with no luck.
Elvis 2008
05-24-23, 19:46
I would like to see Sao Paulo, Rio or even Buenos Aries and the beaches. But I think it's unlikely I can find anything better than what I already have had. Seems Scandallo costs even more than my 10's cost in Colombia. Geez one girl would marry me or live together in sin. LOL (22 years old blonde in flight attendant school. Another blonde speaks 6 languages, (FRENCH) plays violin and is a ballet dancer (both in Bogota) So getting on a long 16 hour+ flight seems I would find more 10's, 9's and lots of fun. But it will take time, cost more and MIGHT disappoint.
I get the feeling that real GFE is better in Colombia also. It takes a lot of time, $ and some luck. Why go anywhere else?
I like taking risks so if I can combine this with my art business in Brazil. I will do it anyway.Don,
I cannot imagine doing a business in Brazil. Granted, Venezuela is worse, but I would even do Argentina over Brazil, and Argentina like Venezuela has a culture that says swindling people is okay. Both countries have defaulted on their debt like ten times. Still, unlike Venezuela, Argentina works as a country much better because of a crazy barter system and personal trust. There does seem to be a small subset of people in Argentina you can trust.
Brazil's slogan is that it is going to be the next great country in the world and always will be, and I did not get why until I went there. OMG, the system is corrupt. The rich people have tied up so much that it is very hard for the poor to get ahead, and I was not impressed with the work ethic in general of the Brazilians.
But like Turgid say, the WGs in Brazil are amazing. I don't know if they take a class in it but the women give great oral. I cannot recall moaning from BJs more in my life. So yeah, it is intriguing. The women are fun, friendly, horny, and great in the sack. Thing is they have a reputation of not being loyal. The woman who just DFK you often will do the same with five other guys that night. That is the stereotype anyway.
I am much more impressed with the Colombian work ethic and while the Colombian women may not be as skilled as Brazilians I think the Colombian women are much friendlier and sweeter. I have been serious with one Colombian woman and semi-serious with two, and I cannot recall any of them ever telling me no. They have often busted their asses to make me happy.
And maybe I am stereotyping about countries and women but there is some truth to most stereotypes. Funny thing is a guy wrote a book stereotyping the different Latinas: https://www.amazon.com/Chicaspotting-Field-Latinas-United-States-ebook/dp/B018FLYEMA.
And it is funny and IMO pretty accurate. Of course, the woke mob wants the book banned.
As realistically as possible, how long could a mongering make it in Medellin if they had 1 million in cash? Could you go forever and budget your shit right. Make some money off the interest. Work some digital nomad gigs and make that shit last 20 years and live comfortably? Anyone thoughts from some people who have long term experience would be appreciated.I'm guessing you live in California. One million dollars will definitely allow a normal person to live comfortably for 20 years in Medellin. Without any supplemental income, that would provide you $50,000 per year. If you invested $500,000 in CD's at 5%, that would provide an additional $25,000 per year. You should be able to invest more than $500,000 because I would not make any large purchases until I lived in the area for a while to observe the surroundings. I'd invest $900,000, leaving $100,000 for initial expenses and pocket money for one year.
NycNative1
05-24-23, 22:19
I've been frequenting this site for years but this is my first post. A lot of my friends are too chicken shit to go to Colombia to monger they are stuck on the. Are, I spent time in guat city mongering so I'm not afraid to go solo I am not a gringo just American LOL. My question is where are the fast houses in Medellin that fuck for 10 us? Guatemala city fast houses were 7.50-11 usd. I had a 3 some for 120 q = 15 usd in Guatemala. I always bring my own protection and I blend in. Looking for the barrios in Medellin.
That is amazing!
Too many videos promoting sex tourism pissed off the government & a lot of the locals. Buy a coffee. Chill and watch the show. Spend some $ at Marquee and make them happy.Possibly that. But also I was told by a local it is an attempt to stop underage prostitution. There are terrible stories about that circulating in local press and the gossip mill. And so the politicos are forced to act.
I've been frequenting this site for years but this is my first post. A lot of my friends are too chicken shit to go to Colombia to monger they are stuck on the. Are, I spent time in guat city mongering so I'm not afraid to go solo I am not a gringo just American LOL. My question is where are the fast houses in Medellin that fuck for 10 us? Guatemala city fast houses were 7.50-11 usd. I had a 3 some for 120 q = 15 usd in Guatemala. I always bring my own protection and I blend in. Looking for the barrios in Medellin.The casas or the street girls in El centro is what you are looking for.
Nil Admirari
05-25-23, 00:30
As upper middle class I can choose to fly under the radar in a third world country.............Excuse the pedantics and this digression from posting on the noble pursuit of Paisa pussy, but here goes a needed corrective to the post quoted above.
Applying the label "third world" to any country is 40 years out of date, and in the case of Colombia is quite inaccurate and could reasonably be perceived as patronizing and insulting. The terms "First", "Second" and "Third World" date to the Cold War era, when the allied, industrialized "Western Bloc" countries (also including the Eastern likes of Australia and Japan) were designated as "First World", the Communist bloc countries allied with the Soviet Union were "Second World", and most all the other non-allied countries were "Third World". However, in popular usage Third World came to imply impoverished" and "undeveloped" although it included countries such as Saudi Arabia and Uruguay with high per capita incomes. Since the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1992 these categorizations have lost their relevance.
Today some commentators refer to "developed" versus "developing countries". However, the World Bank and IMF use a more neutral (non-judgmental) categorization based on four income groups: low, lower-middle, upper-middle, and high income. It might surprise some to learn that Colombia (and most all of South America) is classified as "Upper-Middle Income"--far removed from the "third world" implied stigma. See this link for a map and listing of these income categories by country:
https://datatopics.worldbank.org/world-development-indicators/the-world-by-income-and-region.html#text=The%20 World%20 Bank%20 classifies%20 economies,%2 Dmiddle%2 C%20 and%20 high%20 income.
And look here for definitions and map of "First, Second, and Third World countries as used way back when:
https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world_countries.htm
As realistically as possible, how long could a mongering make it in Medellin if they had 1 million in cash? Could you go forever and budget your shit right. Make some money off the interest. Work some digital nomad gigs and make that shit last 20 years and live comfortably? Anyone thoughts from some people who have long term experience would be appreciated.Interesting question and of course would depend on how you would live in Colombia. Will you be living in Poblado in a strata 5 or 6 neighborhood or a lower strata neighborhood. Are you going to be eating in fancy places or at home. Are you going to be patronizing with SW's, have some girlfriends, or whatever. Where are you going to park this money, was your intent to bring it in to Colombia? Maybe rephrase your question with some parameters as to what your expectations are, and perhaps others can help answer your question better.
Regardless, a guy could easily live in Medellin for twenty years on $ 500,000 if he invested his money wisely.
As realistically as possible, how long could a mongering make it in Medellin if they had 1 million in cash? Could you go forever and budget your shit right. Make some money off the interest. Work some digital nomad gigs and make that shit last 20 years and live comfortably? Anyone thoughts from some people who have long term experience would be appreciated.I had a nest egg that would be about that if adjusted for inflation from the time I retired 11 years ago. I have been living all over and I budget my shit right and I have about the same amount of inflation adjusted money as I did when I retired. Didn't work much, some, and have lived very comfortably. I think you are younger like maybe 40 but if you have a million after tax and ANY brains and skills at all, and have experience working on line, you should go for it. But don't think about interest. Think about capital gains. If you want money to last forever, you have to have substantial exposure to equities vs. Income-oriented investments.
Mr Enternational
05-25-23, 02:58
But like Turgid say, the WGs in Brazil are amazing. I don't know if they take a class in it but the women give great oral. I cannot recall moaning from BJs more in my life. So yeah, it is intriguing. The women are fun, friendly, horny, and great in the sack. Thing is they have a reputation of not being loyal. The woman who just DFK you often will do the same with five other guys that night. That is the stereotype anyway.Stereotype? The reality of a working girl is that they are fucking for money. Why would they have a need to be loyal or to not kiss anyone else that night? If you have an actual girlfriend then no she is not going around kissing any tom dick or harry. How is that even a thought? This is my actual girlfriend, but since she is Brazilian she has a tendency to go around the room kissing random strangers? That sounds ridiculous.
I am much more impressed with the Colombian work ethic and while the Colombian women may not be as skilled as Brazilians I think the Colombian women are much friendlier and sweeter. I have been serious with one Colombian woman and semi-serious with two, and I cannot recall any of them ever telling me no. They have often busted their asses to make me happy.What do you mean you are more impressed by the Colombian work ethic? If a Colombian or Brazilian have a job, then they both go to them and work. If you judge on hookers alone, isn't it said here that Colombian hookers should be expected to be late? You do not see that in Brazil. I have had normal relationships with many Colombians and many Brazilians. They are both the same. If a woman anywhere loves you and wants to be with you then the relationship reflects that. It has nothing to do with having a yes woman who never tells you no about anything.
As upper middle class I can choose to fly under the radar in a third world country. Not bring much attention on myself and have my budget extend way further. From cheap hotels to Hostels I've been able to stay in countries much longer not pay a premium for lodging and women and search for those diamonds in the rough in the slummier mongering locations. I speak Spanish fluently and have had great experiences without breaking the bank. For me a pretty comfy bed and a roof over my head is all I need. Plus meeting likeminded backpackers and world travelers from all walk of life is fun when staying in hostels. If I meet a higher maintenance type of girl I always have the option of a nicer love motel or booking a 5 star hotel for one or 2 nights if necessary. I'm not flashy nor am I dirty and unhygienic. Upper thirties, fit, decent looking white Latino dude and you will find me having fun in Santa Fe, Centro Medellin or Gringo Gulch CR. If I want to treat a great girl I find to luxury we can always take a trip somewhere like Guatape or the beach.
Analogy: I try not to assume well off people from any City when going out into the woods always go glamping. Maybe a tent and a sleeping bag and connecting with the raw somewhat dangerous nature of it all is exciting to some. To others maybe not.MiamiBoy is just being a ******* as usual. The fact of the matter is that- El Centro is the heart of Medellin and you can find people from all walks of life there. Wasting money just because you have it is stupid. Obviously, as he has proven time and time again with his arrogant posts, MB1 doesn't know the real Colombia, he stays in his plastic barrios fucking his plastic women that he overpays.
El Centro is much more than just Botero or Veracruz, it is the heart of the city where you can find anything your looking for whether that be bandeja paisa, paintings being sold by local artists, even shower heads and excellent quality knock off shoes. I myself like to sip on a 2 mil lemonade while sitting down and people watching.
As far as the prostitution goes sure there are a lot of undesirable hags in the Veracruz area but there are also beautiful, sweet diamonds in the rough to be found there, it just takes a little effort to find what you are looking for. To blow the whole place off is just asinine. But hey I guess if you've got "the coin" you can live in your own little arrogant world.
Wow great to hear from someone who has personal experience with both hotels, I am planning to book one of them for one day and then decide where to spend rest to the time after looking on both when I reach there, I have to visit Medellin from August 3 to August 23 , I know that this area is a little dangerous (I have been there only 2 times but only in daylight) , do to think its too dangerous to stay there as you have personal experience staying that area?Sorry it took me a few days to get back to you, I've been pretty busy lately. The area is fine during the day, just don't go flashing around your "coin" or your IPhone 16 XL or whatever and you will be fine. I'd say be back in your hotel by no later than 9 pm but usually most the action moves to Poblado and Parque Lleras by the time, where the same girls charge guys like MB1 5 times more because they are gringos and have "the coin" LOL. But yea you will be fine in the Botero / Veracruz are during the day time hours.
Also if you want to save urself a little "coin" and put it to other uses such as a second polvo, and you don't mind walking a few blocks thru the scary congrete jungle, I would recommend the hotels on the other side of avenida oriental one block past Exito San Antonio. The area is called El Palo con El Huevo and there are several hotels there that will be even cheaper than Calle Real or Premier Plaza.
DonCarlos1234
05-25-23, 06:42
Don,
I cannot imagine doing a business in Brazil. Granted, Venezuela is worse, but I would even do Argentina over Brazil, and Argentina like Venezuela has a culture that says swindling people is okay. Both countries have defaulted on their debt like ten times. Still, unlike Venezuela, Argentina works as a country much better because of a crazy barter system and personal trust. There does seem to be a small subset of people in Argentina you can trust.
Brazil's slogan is that it is going to be the next great country in the world and always will be, and I did not get why until I went there. OMG, the system is corrupt. The rich people have tied up so much that it is very hard for the poor to get ahead, and I was not impressed with the work ethic in general of the Brazilians.
But like Turgid say, the WGs in Brazil are amazing. I don't know if they take a class in it but the women give great oral. I cannot recall moaning from BJs more in my life. So yeah, it is intriguing. The women are fun, friendly, horny, and great in the sack. Thing is they have a reputation of not being loyal. The woman who just DFK you often will do the same with five other guys that night. That is the stereotype anyway.
I am much more impressed with the Colombian work ethic and while the Colombian women may not be as skilled as Brazilians I think the Colombian women are much friendlier and sweeter. I have been serious with one Colombian woman and semi-serious with two, and I cannot recall any of them ever telling me no. They have often busted their asses to make me happy.
And maybe I am stereotyping about countries and women but there is some truth to most stereotypes. Funny thing is a guy wrote a book stereotyping the different Latinas: https://www.amazon.com/Chicaspotting-Field-Latinas-United-States-ebook/dp/B018FLYEMA.
And it is funny and IMO pretty accurate. Of course, the woke mob wants the book banned.Guess I should read his book. Lives in Medellin. https://www.facebook.com/josephbovino you remeer my target market for sculptures are plastic surgeons? De. Robert Rey etc.
What is everyone's favourite massage parkour right now? I've been going to Abybos, Zen Spa, El Garage.
Any recommendations of parlours and specific girls? Look for HS mainly.Om Spa for Men is the only one I've tried in the last couple years and the most I've gotten a girl to do is a HJ. How are those others? Do they offer more?
I like great sex just like everyone else but from time to time I like a good tantra message with a good lingam massage finish. I haven't explored that in Medellin yet but I do see some offers. Tantra Medellin appears to be a place that offers that but quality is unknown. Carrera 80 #44 b-139 is the address. 120 mil for 45 minutes including oral, unclear if that is BBBJCIM. Anyone try that place? Any recommendations for an attractive woman that offers a good tantra massage?
Manizales911
05-25-23, 15:39
As realistically as possible, how long could a mongering make it in Medellin if they had 1 million in cash? Could you go forever and budget your shit right. Make some money off the interest. Work some digital nomad gigs and make that shit last 20 years and live comfortably? Anyone thoughts from some people who have long term experience would be appreciated.If your money was properly invested and with little risk tolerance yes, you could live in perpetuity with that much and live like a king in Medellin.
Elvis 2008
05-25-23, 16:27
Stereotype? The reality of a working girl is that they are fucking for money. Why would they have a need to be loyal or to not kiss anyone else that night? If you have an actual girlfriend then no she is not going around kissing any tom dick or harry. How is that even a thought? This is my actual girlfriend, but since she is Brazilian she has a tendency to go around the room kissing random strangers? That sounds ridiculous.Sigh. https://www.charliehoehn.com/2010/11/23/6-weeks-in-buenos-aires-or-how-i-learned-to-love-brazilians/.
The first thing you should know about Brazilian women is that, if you are in a bar or club, they are very quick to jump down your throat. I've seen guys walk up to them and passionately make out within 20 seconds of meeting, to the extent that it looks like they're going to rip each other's clothes off right in front of you. This is not an exaggeration.
https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-Brazilian-kiss-mean-Why-do-Brazilian-girls-like-to-engage-in-a-kiss-with-a-stranger-at-a-pub
What does a Brazilian kiss mean? Why do Brazilian girls like to engage in a kiss with a stranger at a pub?
What do you mean you are more impressed by the Colombian work ethic? If a Colombian or Brazilian have a job, then they both go to them and work.That says a lot about who have you been hanging around with. Go to an upscale home in Brazil and one in Colombia. What is the biggest difference between the two?
If you judge on hookers alone, isn't it said here that Colombian hookers should be expected to be late? You do not see that in Brazil.You don't see that in Brazil? LOL. Hell, even if a woman wanted to be on time, you never know with the traffic in Sao Paulo.
I have had normal relationships with many Colombians and many Brazilians. They are both the same. If a woman anywhere loves you and wants to be with you then the relationship reflects that. It has nothing to do with having a yes woman who never tells you no about anything.When I was in Colombia, the woman I was with spent two hours preparing a meal. In Colombia, the government has declared that Venezuelans be paid the same minimum wage as Colombians. Maybe there are some, but I have never heard of anyone having servants in Colombia.
When I went to upscale homes in Argentina and Brazil, the servants prepared the meal, did the cleaning, and hell even raised the children. I met an Argentine who lived in Canada that was skiing two days after giving birth, and the reason she was able to do was that she had so much help. She said in Canada she would have had only one child but she was able to have four because she had so much help. And every upscale home I looked at in Brazil and Argentina had servants quarters.
The helpers typically come from rural Brazil or Paraguay, and they are paid next to nothing. A Brazilian lawyer wanted to pay her servant more but she was told by neighbors not to do so as to not raise the price on everyone else. It is kind of like the guys here bitching at others for paying the hookers more.
Elvis 2008
05-25-23, 16:31
Guess I should read his book. Lives in Medellin. https://www.facebook.com/josephbovino you remeer my target market for sculptures are plastic surgeons? De. Robert Rey etc.It is a good read. It is funny that the author ended up in Medellin.
This:
I can think of a couple reasons. Being in the concrete jungle is a rush to some of these guys.
Many also are coming from a place where the high end shit is expensive and they are trying to save coin. Maybe they would save coin anyway by just being there but in the end. That's the way they choose to do it.
I have done it both ways going low end and high end. Even in between. I love street girls so sometimes that's the way I do it. I also love higher end girls too.
In the end I am most concerned with did you have a good time.And this:
As upper middle class I can choose to fly under the radar in a third world country. Not bring much attention on myself and have my budget extend way further. From cheap hotels to Hostels I've been able to stay in countries much longer not pay a premium for lodging and women and search for those diamonds in the rough in the slummier mongering locations. I speak Spanish fluently and have had great experiences without breaking the bank. For me a pretty comfy bed and a roof over my head is all I need. Plus meeting likeminded backpackers and world travelers from all walk of life is fun when staying in hostels. If I meet a higher maintenance type of girl I always have the option of a nicer love motel or booking a 5 star hotel for one or 2 nights if necessary. I'm not flashy nor am I dirty and unhygienic. Upper thirties, fit, decent looking white Latino dude and you will find me having fun in Santa Fe, Centro Medellin or Gringo Gulch CR. If I want to treat a great girl I find to luxury we can always take a trip somewhere like Guatape or the beach.
Analogy: I try not to assume well off people from any City when going out into the woods always go glamping. Maybe a tent and a sleeping bag and connecting with the raw somewhat dangerous nature of it all is exciting to some. To others maybe not.You can find loud, obnoxious, poorly educated gringos, with no class and poor hygiene, anywhere. If you're anywhere in Medellin, and you hear people conversing in English, there's a fair chance you'll hear something which fits into 1 of the categories above. Talk to 20 random gringos, probably 1 will have bad breath, body odor, or enough cologne to pose a health hazard. You can find them in Provenza and Parque Lleras, or in El Centro.
Poorly educated has no connection to the level of education completed. Read the forum and tell me I'm wrong. The post which started all this, which mentioned high school dropouts, appears to have been written by a low achieving 12 year old. Run it by your favorite 6th grade English teacher and watch the red pen go to work. The follow-up posts claiming a definite correlation between low class and preference for El Centro are nothing more than poorly disguised bigotry and bigotry can only exist by embracing ignorance.
Instead of posting your beliefs on the inferiority of people who have different preferences, why not post something useful? Where do you eat? What shopping do you do? What have you learned that helps you connect with the girls? What problems have you experienced and how did you overcome them? If you've spent more than a few weeks in Medellin, you should have some knowledge, which others can use to improve their visit.
And isn't helping others better than insulting people you know nothing about?
I'll start.
If I'm staying in an apartment, I'll usually cook breakfast. Fry some eggs, slice an avocado, and wash it down with some juice. Lunch I take at any Colombian restaurant, with a menu of the day. You should have no trouble finding something for under 25 k (when I started, 12-15 k was high end). That's your choice of pork chicken or beef, usually with rice, some type of potato, possibly yuca (edible drywall), a small salad, maybe a choice of soup or beans, and either juice or guandolo. It's just a simple meal, cheap and easy.
Talking to the girls, throw out a few compliments. Most will eat it up. Don't waste a lot of time getting to know them. If you're talking to a girl 6 months before your trip, you'll probably be disappointed. Make contact, let them know when you're coming and move on until you're on the way.
If you've got some special girls and want to make their stay more memorable, get a Disney+ subscription and bring a jar of bread and butter pickles (I wrap the jar in bubble wrap and put it in a zip lock bag in my checked bag). The pickles are like candy and Disney can be streamed in Spanish with English subtitles (or vice versa).
What useful tips do you have?
For awhile I've been sporadically chatting with this attractive Facebook girl. I told her I'll be visiting Medellin and that maybe we can have some fun together, my usual opening line. She readily agreed. Fast forward to today, I message her saying I'm in Medellin for a few weeks if you still want to meet. She says sure, but you should know that I only go out on "citas". Now I've seen this term translated as "date" and "appointment", and pros use it to mean the latter, so I ask if she means a regular date or a paid date. Immediately blocked. Guess she meant a romantic date, whoops.
BlueChange
05-25-23, 18:53
I like great sex just like everyone else but from time to time I like a good tantra message with a good lingam massage finish. I haven't explored that in Medellin yet but I do see some offers. Tantra Medellin appears to be a place that offers that but quality is unknown. Carrera 80 #44 b-139 is the address. 120 mil for 45 minutes including oral, unclear if that is BBBJCIM. Anyone try that place? Any recommendations for an attractive woman that offers a good tantra massage?I went there a couple years back. It wasn't anyting speical like a second rate energy and not that organized. I actually got caught by my noiva at the time because I had "tantra medellin" in my most recent uber rides and I had a uber driver waiting of for me. He cancled the ride and I had to put an address in when my GF showed up and she grab my phone, typed and then giggle nervously. Later that night she revelaed and ya. Tantra Medellin pretty hard to hide haha.
I didn't get any Tantra either, its just a name. Normal sex place with pretty average girls.
Dcrist0527
05-25-23, 19:07
Om Spa for Men is the only one I've tried in the last couple years and the most I've gotten a girl to do is a HJ. How are those others? Do they offer more?I literally just left Zen. Got a really hot masseuse. Believe her name is Joanna. Very nice look to her. But best I could do was a HJ. Same experience as OM. But the massage was very good.
Dcrist0527
05-25-23, 19:10
I like great sex just like everyone else but from time to time I like a good tantra message with a good lingam massage finish. I haven't explored that in Medellin yet but I do see some offers. Tantra Medellin appears to be a place that offers that but quality is unknown. Carrera 80 #44 b-139 is the address. 120 mil for 45 minutes including oral, unclear if that is BBBJCIM. Anyone try that place? Any recommendations for an attractive woman that offers a good tantra massage?Tried it several years ago, so not sure this is helpful. But I left pretty disappointed.
I would recommend Happy Massage for what you're looking for. It is pricey, by Colombian standards, but has exactly what you are looking for. I've visited with all of the current girls and I don't think you can make a bad choice.
For awhile I've been sporadically chatting with this attractive Facebook girl. I told her I'll be visiting Medellin and that maybe we can have some fun together, my usual opening line. She readily agreed. Fast forward to today, I message her saying I'm in Medellin for a few weeks if you still want to meet. She says sure, but you should know that I only go out on "citas". Now I've seen this term translated as "date" and "appointment", and pros use it to mean the latter, so I ask if she means a regular date or a paid date. Immediately blocked. Guess she meant a romantic date, whoops.Cita means what you want it to, generally it means that you meet up for sex, any other activities will be up to you but it generally means at your place. Few Colombian girls will be talking to foreign men they've never met over the internet, those that do know what the score is.
Honestly, I wouldn't bother talking to them too much until you're in country or at least very close to it (I. E. You're sitting in the departure lounge and bored).
Colombianas live in the moment, at best they might make plans for the next few days, even then those plans are pretty far from solid. If she's asking if you want a cita, she means now-ish, as in she's bored and needs money today.
As a side note, if you've never been to Medellin, you should really read up on Colombian slang (Google is your friend here). This will really help with the language barrier,.
LivingFossil
05-25-23, 22:39
Yoo.
Last time I was in MDE I stayed at no doorman airbnb near Lleras and it was great I would just walk the girls back to my spot for fun.
This time I think I will stay away from the noise in a large building that checks all IDs and I will try to get most of my girls not from Lleras. But if I did want a Lleras girl and they don't have an ID where are the short time motels to go to that are close?
Mr Enternational
05-26-23, 00:06
Now I've seen this term translated as "date" and "appointment", and pros use it to mean the latter, so I ask if she means a regular date or a paid date. Immediately blocked. Guess she meant a romantic date, whoops.That is why my favorite thing to say is "como asi?" so that I can get clarification.
MiamiBoy is just being a ******* as usual. The fact of the matter is that- El Centro is the heart of Medellin and you can find people from all walks of life there. Wasting money just because you have it is stupid. Obviously, as he has proven time and time again with his arrogant posts, MB1 doesn't know the real Colombia, he stays in his plastic barrios fucking his plastic women that he overpays.
El Centro is much more than just Botero or Veracruz, it is the heart of the city where you can find anything your looking for whether that be bandeja paisa, paintings being sold by local artists, even shower heads and excellent quality knock off shoes. I myself like to sip on a 2 mil lemonade while sitting down and people watching.
As far as the prostitution goes sure there are a lot of undesirable hags in the Veracruz area but there are also beautiful, sweet diamonds in the rough to be found there, it just takes a little effort to find what you are looking for. To blow the whole place off is just asinine. But hey I guess if you've got "the coin" you can live in your own little arrogant world.Your right on the money here.
Most guys who go to Centro and see all the undesirables as you described have a tendency to jump to the conclusion that anyone who partakes there is also an undesirable as well.
However I think it takes a lot of effort, versus a little effort to find what your looking for, the language barrier is huge, and probably the hardest part is that you need to spend lots of time on the ground there and be very patient to find the diamonds in the rough.
I have been exploring the listings of Abnb places in Medellin. There are quite a few that expressly say no sex tourism or "no hookers". It is a shame that a number of those places are very nice. A lot more places say that visitors are not allowed or the registered guests are allowed, meaning if you have a special girl. Medellin probably has more Abnb places with guest restrictions than other cities. There is definitely a lot of hosts who do not want the business of gringos engaged in mongering so be careful about reading the house rules when trying to book an Abnb place.
If you are a casa guy or El Centro streetwalker fan, it will not be a problem and there are a lot of great places that you can stay for a reasonable price. There are still a number of good places on Abnb that are guest friendly but I would say it is a minority of listings on Abnb.
It is the same with the hotels. There are guest friendly hotels but there are also a lot of hotels that do not allow guests or charge a high price for visitors.
You don't run into this issue as much in Thailand or the Philippines or even Mexico. But apparently it is an issue in Medellin.
Yoo.
Last time I was in MDE I stayed at no doorman airbnb near Lleras and it was great I would just walk the girls back to my spot for fun.
This time I think I will stay away from the noise in a large building that checks all IDs and I will try to get most of my girls not from Lleras. But if I did want a Lleras girl and they don't have an ID where are the short time motels to go to that are close?A girl without an ID from Lleras is a death wish.
I have been exploring the listings of Abnb places in Medellin. There are quite a few that expressly say no sex tourism or "no hookers". It is a shame that a number of those places are very nice. A lot more places say that visitors are not allowed or the registered guests are allowed, meaning if you have a special girl. Medellin probably has more Abnb places with guest restrictions than other cities. There is definitely a lot of hosts who do not want the business of gringos engaged in mongering so be careful about reading the house rules when trying to book an Abnb place.
If you are a casa guy or El Centro streetwalker fan, it will not be a problem and there are a lot of great places that you can stay for a reasonable price. There are still a number of good places on Abnb that are guest friendly but I would say it is a minority of listings on Abnb.
It is the same with the hotels. There are guest friendly hotels but there are also a lot of hotels that do not allow guests or charge a high price for visitors.
You don't run into this issue as much in Thailand or the Philippines or even Mexico. But apparently it is an issue in Medellin.It is even more of an issue in San Jose Costa Rica.
Even if the Airbnb says nothing about guests I would read the description of the unit and the other info in the listing. You may be in an apartment attached to the family home, for example. In that case one would reasonably refrain from having guests in. The safest bet is to ask the host before you book.
Centro is definitely not a point and click game. Even the casas require a time commitment to get the best experience.
Your right on the money here.
Most guys who go to Centro and see all the undesirables as you described have a tendency to jump to the conclusion that anyone who partakes there is also an undesirable as well.
However I think it takes a lot of effort, versus a little effort to find what your looking for, the language barrier is huge, and probably the hardest part is that you need to spend lots of time on the ground there and be very patient to find the diamonds in the rough.
... There are still a number of good places on Abnb that are guest friendly but I would say it is a minority of listings on Abnb.
It is the same with the hotels. There are guest friendly hotels but there are also a lot of hotels that do not allow guests or charge a high price for visitors.
You don't run into this issue as much in Thailand or the Philippines or even Mexico. But apparently it is an issue in Medellin.Also much less an issue in Brazil it seems, at least as far as hotels (not AirBnBs) are concerned. Thirty years ago Brazil was awful in that respect, you could hardly find a single hotel that allowed guests in without a hefty joiner fee.
DonCarlos1234
05-26-23, 05:35
It is a good read. It is funny that the author ended up in Medellin.Also lives in Miami, Immigration attorney.. maybe part time Medellin. 6 X bestseller on Amazon. Looking forward to the read & perhaps meet him in person. Seems to hang out places near my usual hotel. Thanks again.
Dcrist0527
05-26-23, 15:49
Over the last few nights, the actual park has been empty between 10 pm and 3 am. The checkpoints are really grilling the girls. I'm not sure what they are asking, but they are checking IDs, which is not a bad thing for us. The girls that are allowed through go right to the bars. They do have police posted in the park. So the girls are definitely either in the bars or on Calle 10.
Spent a few nights in Gustos this week. And please, I do not want to spark that debate again. You don't like Gustos? Fine, but for those that do, I found the talent to be better than ever. The majority of the girls are 8's and up. Just last night, I counted at least five 10's. And plenty of 9's. Of course, that's all subjective. But what I really enjoyed was the variety. My 10 may be your 8 or 9. What I noticed were a lot of 9's that had different looks. Dark skinned or light, blondes or dark hair, flacas or curvy. I pity the man that couldn't find "the one" there. Prices have increased to be certain. Looked like there were a lot of girls that wouldn't budge from their asking price. But there was a constant stream of couples exiting too. Each night, I was able to find the right one but they did make me go to my personal cap of 600 k.
Lleras Park was packed last night. I didn't find the environment appealing. Don't get me wrong, there are a few diamonds in there. But that feels like a place that you see the girl, you negotiate and you go. At least that seems like the girls attitude. Just not my style. Even if I wanted to chat with the girl, it's shoulder to shoulder, no seating available, etc.
Went into Glow for the first time. Got to say it has potential. I went in and they definitely pull off a high-end feel. I went in there really late. It was probably around 2:30. Decent crowd but I wasn't shopping at that point. Might stop by there tonight, only earlier.
I literally just left Zen. Got a really hot masseuse. Believe her name is Joanna. Very nice look to her. But best I could do was a HJ. Same experience as OM. But the massage was very good.I've gotten BBBJ and was offered CFS at Dan Spa. Same location, Rio Sur mall.
Centro is definitely not a point and click game. Even the casas require a time commitment to get the best experience.Time isn't the issue at hand money is LOL.
Manizales911
05-26-23, 17:45
Yoo.
Last time I was in MDE I stayed at no doorman airbnb near Lleras and it was great I would just walk the girls back to my spot for fun.
This time I think I will stay away from the noise in a large building that checks all IDs and I will try to get most of my girls not from Lleras. But if I did want a Lleras girl and they don't have an ID where are the short time motels to go to that are close?Why would you take ANY girl to your place that does not have proper identification, that is not only foolish but reckless in Medellin.
DownLow123
05-26-23, 18:42
My airbnb specifically said "no sex tourism". My airbnb had a doorman but I specifically got an airbnb on 1st floor away from doorman. I averaged about 2-3 girls per day for 2 weeks, never was questioned by doorman nor host. I know my doorman saw at least a couple of my girls come and go, especially when one of my longer term girls took out the trash walking right by the doorman and giving him a hola, como esta? I should also note I added a 2nd guest to my airbnb (at no additional cost) prior to paying for it. Did this in the event if I was ever questioned I would say the girl is my guest. But never had too.
I have been exploring the listings of Abnb places in Medellin. There are quite a few that expressly say no sex tourism or "no hookers". It is a shame that a number of those places are very nice. A lot more places say that visitors are not allowed or the registered guests are allowed, meaning if you have a special girl. Medellin probably has more Abnb places with guest restrictions than other cities. There is definitely a lot of hosts who do not want the business of gringos engaged in mongering so be careful about reading the house rules when trying to book an Abnb place.
If you are a casa guy or El Centro streetwalker fan, it will not be a problem and there are a lot of great places that you can stay for a reasonable price. There are still a number of good places on Abnb that are guest friendly but I would say it is a minority of listings on Abnb.
It is the same with the hotels. There are guest friendly hotels but there are also a lot of hotels that do not allow guests or charge a high price for visitors.
You don't run into this issue as much in Thailand or the Philippines or even Mexico. But apparently it is an issue in Medellin.
Don't be naive, they know what were there for and they care more about renting there shit out than the no sex tourism bs.
My airbnb specifically said "no sex tourism". My airbnb had a doorman but I specifically got an airbnb on 1st floor away from doorman. I averaged about 2-3 girls per day for 2 weeks, never was questioned by doorman nor host. I know my doorman saw at least a couple of my girls come and go, especially when one of my longer term girls took out the trash walking right by the doorman and giving him a hola, como esta? I should also note I added a 2nd guest to my airbnb (at no additional cost) prior to paying for it. Did this in the event if I was ever questioned I would say the girl is my guest. But never had too.
Don't be naive, they know what were there for and they care more about renting there shit out than the no sex tourism bs.I would be careful if the house rules say no sex tourism and you are engaged in mongering. They definitely would have the right to kick you out and then it becomes a headache that you have to deal with, during the trip and after the trip with Abnb to get your money back. I agree that it is possible that they won't enforce it but it is also possible that they do. They say it explicitly so there is not much you can do when you blatantly violate one of the conditions of renting the Abnb apartment.
I would ask the host directly about guests visiting the place and if they say, it is fine, then I would rent the place. If the house rules say no sex tourism and the host tells me that no guest are allowed, I would be hesitate to rent the place and just ignore the house rule. I am on vacation. I don't need hassles. There are other places to rent.
My airbnb specifically said "no sex tourism". My airbnb had a doorman but I specifically got an airbnb on 1st floor away from doorman. I averaged about 2-3 girls per day for 2 weeks, never was questioned by doorman nor host. I know my doorman saw at least a couple of my girls come and go, especially when one of my longer term girls took out the trash walking right by the doorman and giving him a hola, como esta? I should also note I added a 2nd guest to my airbnb (at no additional cost) prior to paying for it. Did this in the event if I was ever questioned I would say the girl is my guest. But never had too.
Don't be naive, they know what were there for and they care more about renting there shit out than the no sex tourism bs.Typically the problems that arise is when guys rent places and make a lot of noise and / or have some very slutty women coming and going and someone in the building complains.
If guys are discreet about their business, meaning telling their visitors to come dressed like a house maid (not in a uniform) but plane Jane clothing and no make-up versus full on hooker attire that will go a long way.
The other thing to do is be-friend the doorman called Porteros.
Grease the skids with them, buy them some food / drinks and that will go a long ways in case anything arises and you need someone on your side.
I am here to call bullshit on Miamiboy1 and his stupid inaccurate posts about El Centro in Medellin.
Here is a beautiful diamond in the rough I just found near the Veracruz Church area. 22 year old paisa named Monica. She said she used to work in a restaurant but started doing this 2 months ago as she needed to earn more plata to help support her family. She is far from what ever the hell a street urchin is, in fact she was friendly, affectionate, and had an excellent body and cute smile also gave an impeccable unrushed service as well.
Afterwards I walked a couple of blocks to Restaurante Mi llanerito and am currently enjoying a delicious lunch of carne ternera a la llanera.
So please do tell us, MiamiB*tch, what is so bad about El Centro that makes you constantly have to spew your inaccurate hateful misinformation?
Or are you willing to admit that you've just been talking out of your ass this entire time, bro??
...Don't be naive, they know what were there for and they care more about renting there shit out than the no sex tourism bs.I think some care about the reaction from the neighbors. What they don't want the guest to do is taking the girls to the common area like swimming pool where the kids might be. If all guests are low key like you, and keep it in the room, then it probably will be ok.
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You don't see that in Brazil? LOL. Hell, even if a woman wanted to be on time, you never know with the traffic in Sao Paulo.....I had hookers and regular girls came to my place in Sao Paulo and elsewhere regularly and they were all on time that I don't wonder about where they were like in Colombia, but that does not mean all will be on time. Most Colombian hookers are less educated, and don't want to work regular job so that maybe one reason. You need to provide a context before making comparison.
I have been to many bars in Sao Paulo, and have never seen what you described. Why do men still go to clubs if it's that easy. This is the hottest encounter I have seen. Most larger apartments in El Poblado have maid quarter with bathroom so it's no big deal. I have been to several of them. It is cheap to hire a maid too. The apartments aren't expensive by US standard. I have stayed in gated community that is filled with custom homes in Brazil. This one has a soccer field in it.
Internet are filled with people don't know what they are talking about so your links are useless. Like a guy can claim Agentina is better than Colombia when the guy has never been to Colombia. Just because a guy said that will make it true?
... anyone who partakes there is also an undesirable as well.....I think the basic logic is if you have money, you will show it by spending it. The reverse is if you spend less, it means you don't have money.
My airbnb specifically said "no sex tourism". My airbnb had a doorman but I specifically got an airbnb on 1st floor away from doorman. I averaged about 2-3 girls per day for 2 weeks, never was questioned by doorman nor host. I know my doorman saw at least a couple of my girls come and go, especially when one of my longer term girls took out the trash walking right by the doorman and giving him a hola, como esta? I should also note I added a 2nd guest to my airbnb (at no additional cost) prior to paying for it. Did this in the event if I was ever questioned I would say the girl is my guest. But never had too.
Don't be naive, they know what were there for and they care more about renting there shit out than the no sex tourism bs.Some do, some don't. They can toss you out on your ear with no refund if they want if they want. Airbnb will not support the guest in that case. Anyway it worked out for you and that's great. It's different from some I stayed in where the owner and family were right next door.
I am here to call bullshit on Miamiboy1 and his stupid inaccurate posts about El Centro in Medellin.
Here is a beautiful diamond in the rough I just found near the Veracruz Church area. 22 year old paisa named Monica. She said she used to work in a restaurant but started doing this 2 months ago as she needed to earn more plata to help support her family. She is far from what ever the hell a street urchin is, in fact she was friendly, affectionate, and had an excellent body and cute smile also gave an impeccable unrushed service as well.
Afterwards I walked a couple of blocks to Restaurante Mi llanerito and am currently enjoying a delicious lunch of carne ternera a la llanera.
So please do tell us, MiamiB*tch, what is so bad about El Centro that makes you constantly have to spew your inaccurate hateful misinformation?
Or are you willing to admit that you've just been talking out of your ass this entire time, bro??Not sure why my pictures didn't upload earlier but anyways here is the diamond in the rough and the pictures of my lunch. Both the chica and the lunch were in el centro. And I didn't get robbed, stabbed or killed by the way.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/laureles-estadio/un-grupo-de-chicas-hermosas-y-adictivas-id-nn2et
Visited there few weeks ago. Communicated with them on the usual (Photoprepagos) route on WA. When I texted back and fourth I was told I needed an appointment an hour in in advance with one of the girls. I asked if I could just show up now at the present time. She said yes and sends me a gallery of about 9 photos and tells me to let her know which one I want. I figured since there was a group of girls that work out of there I'd just show up and choose which ever one's were available. But she was adamant on me choosing one of the girls based on the pictures. So I chose the girl named Emma and she texted back she's busy. So why is she sending me pictures of girls that are busy. Well anyways I choose the girl named Sofia and she texted back "okay she's available". So I make my way over there. I rung the bell and made my way up the stairs and there was a room right next to the stair case and then a bathroom next to that and my first thought was here we go again, Shitty rooms. Even some of the worst casa's I been to have personal bathrooms inside the rooms. The lady that ran the place was asking whom I had an appointment with. I then noticed a room with a curtain door that was slightly opened and I can hear the girls talking. I thought fuck that so I told her "I want a presentation", (instead of her pressing me on choosing a girl based on pictures). So, she tells me to wait in the room. Then during the the presentation I noticed the girl Sofia that I chose based on the pictures, but instead I chose a different girl named Tokyo. So when I was in the room with Tokyo I ask for BBBJ and she started going on about idk I didn't make out her Spanish but I think it was about how long I was going to be there. I really wasn't in the mood for nonsense like her asking for 100 k or more for uncovered BJ. Above all else, her breath wasn't smelling to great and it seemed she had a bit of an attitude. So I changed my mind and told her "Naomi" send Naomi in" she looked a little puzzled but I didn't give a shit. But she got the message I wanted a different girl. When I first looked at the pictures I thought I definitely don't want Naomi, but in person she was sweet and gave really good BBBJ. Overall I'the rather just go to a regular casa like New Life or which ever ones are left for an unscheduled visit and presentation that may cost 3 k or 5 k (like za za does now) or no fee like energy. Rather than a 30 k viewing fee like Angels does. The girls are not that much better then say New Life. In fact they look nothing like their pictures. The girls on Photoprepagos in general do not look like their photos. They airbrush everything. So you really don't know who or what your making plans with like a 3,4,5 photoshopped into a 8, 9 or 10. The rooms are the worst. There's no hot-tub, clean floors or luxury beds like in their photos. The room in Angels that I was in didn't even have a bathroom. They used a community one. I guess this escort sites are a better way to go for them, By the time you go through the trouble and planning of getting there. You either give in or sacrifice and start over again. The photos of the girls at Angels Spa are below.
Just to add a note that the previous Sunday at New Life I probably sat through one of worst presentations I've seen there. I even think there was a transvestite in the mix. But Go figure it ended up saving my trip. I had a session with a Vennie on my last day of trip. She wasn't a photoshopped 10. But better than any other girl I found on photoprepagos.
Centro is definitely not a point and click game. Even the casas require a time commitment to get the best experience.I don't have a language barrier and if I did I would not be in Centro without a reliable wing man.
LivingFossil
05-27-23, 14:01
Wow lots of fear here about no ID girls, I get it but I think they target easy prey and I don't think I fit that criteria.
I have successfully taken back dozens of Lleras girls with no ID to my no doorman Airbnb on many trips and never felt any danger.
The disadvantage is all Lleras accommodations with no door man are loud and I am light sleeper LOL.
So do most Lleras girls carry ID or if they don't where to do y'all take them?
I don't have a language barrier and if I did I would not be in Centro without a reliable wing man.What your pointing out pretty much in a nutshell sums up what typically differentiates the experiences guys have in Centro. It can be a minefield at times, and if you don't have Spanish speaking skills the chances of having problems and bad experiences versus good ones is greatly increased. Medellin is not like a border town such as Tijuana where the language barrier is not an issue. What guys have to realize is that the vast majority of the clients are locals, versus foreigners in Centro. Additionally the place is not for the timid or those afraid of their shadow.
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Some do, some don't. They can toss you out on your ear with no refund if they want if they want. Airbnb will not support the guest in that case. Anyway it worked out for you and that's great. It's different from some I stayed in where the owner and family were right next door.Here's an example of someone who obviously doesn't want any visitors in her apartments:
"The conditions of the reservation must be maintained with the number of guests previously registered. In case of requiring a modification, inform the host to generate the charge (Maybe she meant "change", but it's written in Spanish and states "el cargo") Entering the property by a guest without notice generates a fine of $100 USD.
- Visitors are not allowed. In exceptional cases you must notify the host.
Failure to comply with the rules generates a charge of 300 USD".
The host (a woman) has 17 properties listed on Airbnb. Why anyone would agree to those conditions is beyond me. Suppose a couple (non mongers) rents her apartment and meets another couple and wants to invite them to the apartment for dinner. That could potentially result in a $400 charge.
Monger Longer
05-27-23, 17:00
Has anybody ever eaten here? It's right next to Loutron and it gets really high marks for food and atmosphere. Do you know if there is a way to get there without walking all the way around via the street? They're right on top of one another and I find it hard to believe there isn't a path or a staircase between the two. I get peckish after the deed and a good meal with a view fits the bill.
AmorPorFavor
05-27-23, 17:55
Diamond in the rough? Jajaja. She is below average looking, not higher than 6/10 on my scale. Your post only proves two things. El Centro is a shithole and your standards are low. You are bragging about the girl I would not even notice, let alone pay her for sex. The truth is revealed. You are delusional.
Btw, you lunch doesnt even look appealing.Yea I wouldn't fuck the girl or eat the lunch.
Not sure why my pictures didn't upload earlier but anyways here is the diamond in the rough and the pictures of my lunch. Both the chica and the lunch were in el centro. And I didn't get robbed, stabbed or killed by the way.Thank god we all have different tastes, to me her face looks like a foot!
Not sure why my pictures didn't upload earlier but anyways here is the diamond in the rough and the pictures of my lunch. Both the chica and the lunch were in el centro. And I didn't get robbed, stabbed or killed by the way.She isn't my type either but no one liked the Brazilian girl on the subway that I posted. Would I walk around el centro for her and all that entails? No.
Wow lots of fear here about no ID girls, I get it but I think they target easy prey and I don't think I fit that criteria.
I have successfully taken back dozens of Lleras girls with no ID to my no doorman Airbnb on many trips and never felt any danger.
The disadvantage is all Lleras accommodations with no door man are loud and I am light sleeper LOL.
So do most Lleras girls carry ID or if they don't where to do y'all take them?You're thinking of the wrong danger. The danger, if they have no ID, is that they are also lacking the 18 years required to make them safe, from the legal perspective.
Of course, as has been reported before, if they don't have an ID, and they're working with the police, it doesn't matter if they're 25. You end up paying a big bribe, probably 1 that will require a visit to the ATM.
That of course is the best case scenario. Worst case you end up doing a Jake.
DonMedellin
05-27-23, 20:40
Is this place near la 80, a silver metal door? There were some nice milfs working there back in like 2021. Now I am not sure. Isabel looks nice in photo, was she there when you arrived?
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin/laureles-estadio/un-grupo-de-chicas-hermosas-y-adictivas-id-nn2et
Visited there few weeks ago. Communicated with them on the usual (Photoprepagos) route on WA. When I texted back and fourth I was told I needed an appointment an hour in in advance with one of the girls. I asked if I could just show up now at the present time. She said yes and sends me a gallery of about 9 photos and tells me to let her know which one I want. I figured since there was a group of girls that work out of there I'd just show up and choose which ever one's were available. But she was adamant on me choosing one of the girls based on the pictures. So I chose the girl named Emma and she texted back she's busy. So why is she sending me pictures of girls that are busy. Well anyways I choose the girl named Sofia and she texted back "okay she's available". So I make my way over there. I rung the bell and made my way up the stairs and there was a room right next to the stair case and then a bathroom next to that and my first thought was here we go again, Shitty rooms. Even some of the worst casa's I been to have personal bathrooms inside the rooms. The lady that ran the place was asking whom I had an appointment with. I then noticed a room with a curtain door that was slightly opened and I can hear the girls talking. I thought fuck that so I told her "I want a presentation", (instead of her pressing me on choosing a girl based on pictures). So, she tells me to wait in the room. Then during the the presentation I noticed the girl Sofia that I chose based on the pictures, but instead I chose a different girl named Tokyo. So when I was in the room with Tokyo I ask for BBBJ and she started going on about idk I didn't make out her Spanish but I think it was about how long I was going to be there. I really wasn't in the mood for nonsense like her asking for 100 k or more for uncovered BJ. Above all else, her breath wasn't smelling to great and it seemed she had a bit of an attitude. So I changed my mind and told her "Naomi" send Naomi in" she looked a little puzzled but I didn't give a shit. But she got the message I wanted a different girl. When I first looked at the pictures I thought I definitely don't want Naomi, but in person she was sweet and gave really good BBBJ. Overall I'the rather just go to a regular casa like New Life or which ever ones are left for an unscheduled visit and presentation that may cost 3 k or 5 k (like za za does now) or no fee like energy. Rather than a 30 k viewing fee like Angels does. The girls are not that much better then say New Life. In fact they look nothing like their pictures. The girls on Photoprepagos in general do not look like their photos. They airbrush everything. So you really don't know who or what your making plans with like a 3,4,5 photoshopped into a 8, 9 or 10. The rooms are the worst. There's no hot-tub, clean floors or luxury beds like in their photos. The room in Angels that I was in didn't even have a bathroom. They used a community one. I guess this escort sites are a better way to go for them, By the time you go through the trouble and planning of getting there. You either give in or sacrifice and start over again. The photos of the girls at Angels Spa are below.
Just to add a note that the previous Sunday at New Life I probably sat through one of worst presentations I've seen there. I even think there was a transvestite in the mix. But Go figure it ended up saving my trip. I had a session with a Vennie on my last day of trip. She wasn't a photoshopped 10. But better than any other girl I found on photoprepagos.
Has anybody ever eaten here? It's right next to Loutron and it gets really high marks for food and atmosphere. Do you know if there is a way to get there without walking all the way around via the street? They're right on top of one another and I find it hard to believe there isn't a path or a staircase between the two. I get peckish after the deed and a good meal with a view fits the bill.One of my favorite places in town! The view is unbeatable and a good date spot. Try to ask for the 1st row tables at the balcony which have unobstructed views when making reservations.
Oddly enough, I don't advise getting steak here, they can't seem to get the doneness right (actually I have yet to be impressed with steak in Colombia anywhere).
Not aware of another entrance than the street courtyard.
Elvis 2008
05-27-23, 23:08
My airbnb specifically said "no sex tourism". My airbnb had a doorman but I specifically got an airbnb on 1st floor away from doorman. I averaged about 2-3 girls per day for 2 weeks, never was questioned by doorman nor host. I know my doorman saw at least a couple of my girls come and go, especially when one of my longer term girls took out the trash walking right by the doorman and giving him a hola, como esta? I should also note I added a 2nd guest to my airbnb (at no additional cost) prior to paying for it. Did this in the event if I was ever questioned I would say the girl is my guest. But never had too.
Don't be naive, they know what were there for and they care more about renting there shit out than the no sex tourism bs.I agree with you DL that those renting out their places only care about money, however I think you are missing a few things.
I rented a place in Mexico City for four nights for like $400. The owner claimed I did $900 worth of damage. She had a picture of a dirty dish and scuff marks on a couch. We were running late to the airport and did not have time to clean like I like to. I gave her $50 and showed Airbnb the costs of a maid and to clean a couch in Mexico City and stated that $50 should cover it. I also told AirBnb that I doubted that we caused the scuff marks and said I felt like the owner was trying to stick it to a gringo. I also said if they sided with her that I would cancel my account and would not willingly pay them that $900 and would see them in court.
AirBnb did something I thought at first was weird but later realized was smart. They kept telling me they were investigating the case for weeks. I suspect that AirBnb was saying to the lady if you are apartment is not up to par, we are not going to put your apartment up on the site for people to rent it. In other words, you are going to have to spend $900 in repairs and THEN we will ask for you to be compensated or you can say the $50 is enough for cleaning and getting the place up to snuff. Now she is losing potentially $100 a night in rent. Worse, her reputation is being dinged. Finally, I think she backed off and told AirBnb the $50 for cleaning was adequate. Point is Airbnb was smart and was not going to let the woman profit off her potentially false claim.
So DL what are you going to do if the items in the apartment are vandalized, and the owner says I want $5000? You got a doorman saying you have women coming and going. You could have Airbnb saying you are engaged in sex trafficking and potentially in a USA court in violation with your agreement with the owner. You are cooked and have no defense. The smartest thing for you to do at that point would be to pay that owner whatever he wants.
If your Airbnb host says no trafficking, take your women to a love motel. Airbnb has different rules than hotels.
You're thinking of the wrong danger. The danger, if they have no ID, is that they are also lacking the 18 years required to make them safe, from the legal perspective.
Of course, as has been reported before, if they don't have an ID, and they're working with the police, it doesn't matter if they're 25. You end up paying a big bribe, probably 1 that will require a visit to the ATM.
That of course is the best case scenario. Worst case you end up doing a Jake.That is a big scam that happens in the Philippines. Girl with no ID, police knock on the door, police say girl is underaged, girl says she is 17. With no ID, and the police and the girl saying she is 17, what is your defense? It puts you in a difficult situation where it will be money for the bribe or being taken to the police station until you decide to get the money for the bribe.
Now I don't know if this is a thing in Medellin. I just know that it is a thing in the Philippines.
Has anybody ever eaten here? It's right next to Loutron and it gets really high marks for food and atmosphere. Do you know if there is a way to get there without walking all the way around via the street? They're right on top of one another and I find it hard to believe there isn't a path or a staircase between the two. I get peckish after the deed and a good meal with a view fits the bill.I have eaten there and it is as advertised, the view is spectacular and food is great. I went there without a reservation and the hostess seated us upstairs and there was a fine ass chica Djing up there.
The view is spectacular day or night. The food is better than what you normally get in a place that has a waterfront or mountaintop view because these places can get away with low quality product that would not be tolerated at a place without the killer view. I rate the food on par with the other upscale places in Poblado. The prices are very fair.
Has anybody ever eaten here? It's right next to Loutron and it gets really high marks for food and atmosphere. Do you know if there is a way to get there without walking all the way around via the street? They're right on top of one another and I find it hard to believe there isn't a path or a staircase between the two. I get peckish after the deed and a good meal with a view fits the bill.
Mojo Bandit
05-28-23, 04:00
Worst case you end up doing a Jake.What is a jake?
Is this place near la 80, a silver metal door? There were some nice milfs working there back in like 2021. Now I am not sure. Isabel looks nice in photo, was she there when you arrived?It's on Carrera 81#42-60 apartamento 202 in Laurels and when they press the button to open the door it flings open all the way flat against the wall due to the springs. All the ones presented in the pictures with the exception of Emma were present. So if that's the Isabella you're talking about then she was there.
Mr Enternational
05-28-23, 05:56
What is a jake?Offing yourself. Remember Board Member ColombiaJake? When he got busted he killed himself in jail. Just google ColombiaJake and you will see tons of articles about the situation.
"What Took Medellin's Top American Pimp So Long to Get Caught?"
AmorPorFavor
05-28-23, 06:07
Has anybody ever eaten here? It's right next to Loutron and it gets really high marks for food and atmosphere. Do you know if there is a way to get there without walking all the way around via the street? They're right on top of one another and I find it hard to believe there isn't a path or a staircase between the two. I get peckish after the deed and a good meal with a view fits the bill.I ate there with a date recently and the appetizer was very good. So was desert and the wine. My entree was just OK but hers was very good. The view is amazing but we were not seated at a table with a view. The place was packed on a weeknight. The band was too loud but still a good evening. Service was excellent. Had photo shoot with the hottie SA chica on the deck after meal.
Has anybody ever eaten here? It's right next to Loutron and it gets really high marks for food and atmosphere. As with women, someone's 5-star may be another person's 1-star. I ate there one time with three other people. We had steak, pork, fish, and something they said was seafood. It looked like ravioli without the sauce. Very bland taste. The fish was good. The steak and pork were average at best. I tried to order chicken, but the waiter said the only chicken on the menu would take more than hour to prepare. I asked for a glass of water and the waiter said they didn't have a license to serve water in a glass, only bottled water. The only bottled water was imported from France and was served at room temperature, without a glass of ice. We were seated near the band that was playing that night. They were so loud that we could not have a conversation. The view from the balcony is good. The prices were ridiculously high for Medellin.
What is a jake?He is referring to Colombia Jake. Another know it all who was too smart to listen to anyone. I think if you search the forum you will find the story of his demise some 4 or 5 years ago.
That is a big scam that happens in the Philippines. Girl with no ID, police knock on the door, police say girl is underaged, girl says she is 17. With no ID, and the police and the girl saying she is 17, what is your defense? It puts you in a difficult situation where it will be money for the bribe or being taken to the police station until you decide to get the money for the bribe.
Now I don't know if this is a thing in Medellin. I just know that it is a thing in the Philippines.Of course it happens in Medellin. It's a concern in virtually every mongering destination. It's too obvious of a scam to not happen.
Has anybody ever eaten here? It's right next to Loutron and it gets really high marks for food and atmosphere. Do you know if there is a way to get there without walking all the way around via the street? They're right on top of one another and I find it hard to believe there isn't a path or a staircase between the two. I get peckish after the deed and a good meal with a view fits the bill.So have I found an easy way to get to Loutron? Ask the driver to take me to that restaurant. The last time I went we had lots of difficulty finding Loutron.
Not sure why my pictures didn't upload earlier but anyways here is the diamond in the rough and the pictures of my lunch. Both the chica and the lunch were in el centro. And I didn't get robbed, stabbed or killed by the way.You are giving posters the opportunity to bash the girl and the meal in order to show other posters how refined their tastes are.
Ole MB, I'm going to be in Medellin this summer hopefully sooner than later. I'm going to pull up on you and I better see Ms Colombia on your hip or your a fraud.
You are giving posters the opportunity to bash the girl and the meal in order to show other posters how refined their tastes are.I actually just think they are making themselves look like arrogant Sobs. Ternera a la llanera is a delicacy in Colombian Cuisine from the llanos orientales region of the country. I've actually traveled there myself to Villavicencio, Meta and Melgar, Tolima annd had this meal first hand where it originates from and it is delicious. I doubt these guys talking shit on here have ever been to villao or any of the other beautiful pueblos that Colombia has to offer.
As far as the girl goes, I don't see anything wrong with her. Sure she isn't the best looking woman in Medellin but she isn't ugly either. She had a cute smile and a decent body and gave great service. At the end of the day I was happy and I'm sure I spent way less money than what they spend.
If MB1 and APF or whoever else want to think they are better than the rest of us because they throw around cash and make it rain then they can do that, pero quien conoce mas a Colombia? I'm pretty sure that question answers itself!
Elvis 2008
05-29-23, 00:54
About what the differences are.
I have been to many bars in Sao Paulo, and have never seen what you described. Why do men still go to clubs if it's that easy. Internet are filled with people don't know what they are talking about so your links are useless.So the only person's POV that matters is yours? So now you know better than the BBC? https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-31510184.
I have not seen this either Nounce, but I have heard from many it happens.
I had hookers and regular girls came to my place in Sao Paulo and elsewhere regularly and they were all on timeI am glad the women were on time for you and Mr. E but that is not what I saw and not the stereotype.
Most larger apartments in El Poblado have maid quarter with bathroom so it's no big deal. I have been to several of them. It is cheap to hire a maid too. The apartments aren't expensive by US standard. Like a guy can claim Argentina is better than Colombia when the guy has never been to Colombia. Just because a guy said that will make it true?The Argentina comment was by a woman with children who lived in Argentina and had lived in Canada before. Still, this was a stereotype based on my observations. House servants were so common in Brazil and Argentina and talked about so much there and I heard nothing about them in Colombia. So I actually asked my gal about it.
She told me we have servant's quarters in our place. I LOLed at that one because I literally thought those quarters were a big closet. She had a live in nanny for years growing up. As of now, she said that she saw there was more of the American model where maids come in and clean versus live with people in Colombia.
When I was in Brazil, I met with an attractive lawyer who had kids and was divorced. This was business not pleasure but she mentioned she had an American guy she was dating, and he wanted to bring her to the USA. Things fizzled between them because her family and job were in Brazil, but the other big thing was the help she had with her kids. She knew she would have much more work to do around the house in the USA without the servants she had in Brazil.
That does not matter to guys seeing hookers or the blue collar type women in Brazil, but Don is like me, and he aims high. I have never heard of a Colombian woman reluctant to leave Colombia because of servants. What I have seen are Colombian women be wizards in the kitchens whereas the Brazilian women let their servants do the cooking and cleaning.
I have not been to Argentina or Brazil in a while so maybe that has changed, but I doubt it.
She isn't my type either but no one liked the Brazilian girl on the subway that I posted. Would I walk around el centro for her and all that entails? No.I think that is not quite true. I like her. Haha. It is just no one agree with your rating. I think you rate her as 10. He probably is too plain for some others. I don't have problem with that.
You are giving posters the opportunity to bash the girl and the meal in order to show other posters how refined their tastes are.There is another way to look at it.
I am planning to visit Medelland. And would like to book through some reputable agencies. Can you please suggest name of them and I can check them online. I am thinking to get in my hotel room for long stay. I can manage spanish through Google translator. Also please suggest some brothel kind of places. I have researched on Google but it would better to get information from here.
Let me know if you would like to know about places in states (I know it's expensive 😅.
As far as the girl goes, I don't see anything wrong with her. Sure she isn't the best looking woman in Medellin but she isn't ugly either. She had a cute smile and a decent body and gave great service. At the end of the day I was happy and I'm sure I spent way less money than what they spend.!It's interesting how some guys choose a girl on how pretty their face is, which is their primary selection criteria.
You where happy with her, she gave you great service, and my guess is with few rules, where as the beauty queens will typically have more rules.
I know guys who always look for the most stunning and beautiful girl they can find, and going with them is what they like and works for them.
Everybody rolls different, and making fun of a guy's choices and berating them here on this board is stupid.
There was nothing wrong with your choice.
I am planning to visit Medelland. And would like to book through some reputable agencies. Can you please suggest name of them and I can check them online. I am thinking to get in my hotel room for long stay. I can manage spanish through Google translator. Also please suggest some brothel kind of places. I have researched on Google but it would better to get information from here.
Let me know if you would like to know about places in states (I know it's expensive 😅.Search this thread for casa, that's what brothels are referred to in Medellin. I don't use agencies, so can't help with that.
Ole MB, I'm going to be in Medellin this summer hopefully sooner than later. I'm going to pull up on you and I better see Ms Colombia on your hip or your a fraud.I don't need to prove anything to you or anyone else, and I have zero interest in meeting you or your friend Gabacho.
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