Medellin Reports

[Charm City Dave]

I have att wireless and have had excellent service all over south america including Medellin. Just make sure you have all your international features on BEFORE you roam. Look at your online account and click all applicable boxes.Yep I know I'll have service, question is will anyone in the USA who calls me know I'm out of the country. As stated in Brazil the ring tone changes and the voicemail prompts are in Portuguess (which would kinda be a hint).

[Member #4394]

Your money is best spent. I am sure such an investment will bring a much larger return to you. I wish I had your wisdom.

[QUOTE=Furysys; 1109176]I've always paid for an hour in the casa, first because I don't like to rush like hell (getting old!) , and even an hour goes fast as hell. I always like to engage the girls in conversation, first, because I like to talk to them to practise Spanish, and second, to try, if only a little, to get into their heads a bit as to how they view life, which is utterly different than anything most of us could ever want to experience. They generally have a fatalistic view, especially when it comes to Colombian perro-dogs, the girls hate them, but always seem to fall in love with them, a complete oxymoron, but describes that infinite female ability to see exactly what is not there. The cost is completely irrelevant, when one has to pay $20 for a 3 minute lapdance where I live, who cares about $20 vs $30 or whatever, when one gets what we get.

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[Cubanut]

There is only one fallacy to what you did! Going to the casas, where they just present, is in my opinion, just hit or miss on the GFE! What ya missed out on is meeting them like I like to do, and that is to rap with them, and know whether ya have GFE upfront, and what ya are going to get. In the casas. Good luck to total GFE!

Just sayin. Zig Monger,

I don't really crave GFE, but gosh darn it, it just sometimes happens! Even at the casas. As far as Hit or Miss, well if you monger as a numbers game, the hits WILL come right along. I mean heck, every now and then even suckers get five card Blackjack at the casino, right?

Just speaking for myself, there are many times when I HIT and ended up with a MISS.

Cheers,

Cubanut

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[Neverenuff]

To those who have been to both places and checked out both scenes:

I'm set to visit Colombia a few days and though I've been to Cartagena, I've never been to Medellin and have never checked out the casa scene. I have been to Rio and it's incredible termas. What are the similarities / differences, pros / cons, between the casas and the termas?

Thanks in advance.

[Bonhead]

To those who have been to both places and checked out both scenes:

I'm set to visit Colombia a few days and though I've been to Cartagena, I've never been to Medellin and have never checked out the casa scene. I have been to Rio and it's incredible termas. What are the similarities / differences, pros / cons, between the casas and the termas?

Thanks in advance. It's like comparing Villa Mimosa to the Termas'. There is no comparison, LOL. Termas' are palaces of luxurious pussy. Casa's are dungeons of enslaved concubines. If you truly enjoy the experience of the Termas, then you cannot compare the two as being on the same plane. If you are just about shagging as many cute chicks as possible, then your money goes a lot further at the Casas.

[Bonhead]

my E-P1 camera around my neck as he passed. Stay safe.Please, please, please don't perpetuate the Asian stereotype in Colombia. Rock out all you want like that in Times Square, Piccadilly Circus or when walking around in Clark Quay. In Colombia the camera goes in your pocket or bag.

[Cuero99]

Zig Monger,

I don't really crave GFE, but gosh darn it, it just sometimes happens! Even at the casas. As far as Hit or Miss, well if you monger as a numbers game, the hits WILL come right along. I mean heck, every now and then even suckers get five card Blackjack at the casino, right?

Just speaking for myself, there are many times when I HIT and ended up with a MISS.

Cheers,

Cubanut.

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Cubanut,

Certainly, if you are a volume mongerer like yourself your approach seems just fine. Sadly not all of us have unlimited bullets, in my case 1 or 2 leches daily, maybe 3 if I really push it occasionally, is about all I can manage day after day, which means more often than not just a single chica on a given day. Given this, especially since I am usually in town for at most a week and sometimes only 5 or 6 days, I try find ways to maximize the possibility of each experience being GFE, as well as being able to spend some other getting-to-know time with the girl before or after the sex which adds to the experience for me and often for the chica as well.

For me it feels like any day in paisa heaven that I don't enjoy some GFE is a bit of a disappoinment. I have found dates with romancelatina girls work better for me and my desires than casas; incidentally many but certainly not all of these internet girls are also some time mansion guests. So far 100% of the girls I've "dated" from RL, probably a dozen or so over the last 3 trips, except for one that backed out completely on sex I guess due to her not liking me, have delivered full GFE. About half of those dozen or so also work regularly or occasionally at the mansion.

If others have recommended venues or sources where GFE rate tends to be high I am interested in hearing about them.

[Hollow Man]

Tried to go to Maracaibo last night but seems it was closed so I hopped in Barra Ejecutivo which is right next to it I think. 20-30 chicas some doable (most not) with 2 very nice blondes. Las americas is next to it as well but surrounding area seems waaay dangerous. The dude who looks like a bald arab man sat a 2 girls next to me and my friend and later dropped some lady drinks. Hoped my friend would have argued since my spanish is non-existent but he's a newbie. Picked a girl and the guy said 80k so I countered with 50k like the reports said but he said 80k. I refused and said 'vamos' and he went down to 70k. Then there was a misunderstanding with the bill and my friend thought we needed to pay 37k extra for a room (which was included in the 80k) and the mood was kinda spoiled now that haggling / miscommunication was involved over women. Still took the chick for 70k though. Carolina was good at what she does and surprised me after I finished by giving me a CBJ AFTER I finished and trying to get me up again. Tipped her 20k for the cool effort. Chicks here are cool and the atmosphere is generally good as long as there is no miscommunication. The 80k price they threw at me doesn't match the location and mind you I argued the point and then refused it, and then refused it again after it went to 70k since I thought he was trying to rip me as the previous guides said 50k.

Taxi guy looked like a young hoodie punk and he gave the doorman a tip or something then proceeded to drive me in the opposite direction of my hostel. I called him on it and he made some "ohhhh mistake and threw spanish around even though I had clearly repeated the address 5 times. District, Calle then carrera. Fare was 13k for something that is normally 10k. He stopped at some red lights and not at others. Really dicey.

Didn't hop around because of the rain and the bad mojo so back to bed.

[Menteng]

I suggest you to delete your post then, because the above statement makes you definitely identifiable by those who know you!I don't mind and what is there to fear? Besides, the ones who will be able to identify me are the same ones who visit this thread.

[Manizales911]

went back to new life and took johanna. soo nice. 35k for girl 3k for drink.

fase dos (ii) blows. got there at 9 and empty so left and came back at 10:30. 11:15. girls uppity. beers cost more if you sit at a closer table. some nice lookers but not many and atmosphere wasn't a happy one. the only happy girls i saw were the ones that came with their bf's. usually i tip with smiles and playful but these girls were all about putting the tip in their hand.

still a bit slow i guess. raining all week long so my trip timing was pretty bad.

today was special as some girls even went "mira, mira, es chino" and pointed me out while i was walking the markets toward botera park." little kids ran up to me in the museum and stood in front of me to get a better look. the stares are there and they try to hide it but when everyone is try to catch peeks it is apparent.

i wonder if it's raining in other parts of colombia but i want to try paragliding and do more recon before i go. hostel chick made it apparent she was up for fun and she wanted drinks but there are warning bells in my head about being a sucker or loco chica. we'll see what happens.

medellin is safe if you don't stand out. harder being asian because everyone stares. one guy i said 'ola' to as he passed. i thought was looking at me but it was apparent his fixed were fixed on my e-p1 camera around my neck as he passed. stay safe.no offense but you certainly didn't do your homework before getting on the plane. walking around anywhere in colombia with a camera around your neck is inviting trouble, put that fucking thing away before you have a knife or gun shoved in in your face. wtf.

[Tbird]

Walking around ANYWHERE in Colombia with a camera around your neck is inviting trouble, put that fucking thing away before you have a knife or gun shoved in in your face. WTF.This is (as of today) a $500 camera, so mas o menos a million pesos. That is two minimum monthly salaries in Colombia.

Though I have a few other and better cameras, I only take a little Panasonic travel zoom point-and-shoot with me, it stays on my belt in a case and is generally covered by a shirt or denim jacket. I do not travel with ANYTHING I cannot afford to lose. I wear a $50 watch and use a basic cell phone I got from Ebay for $12.

I am not being paranoid, just careful. I was walking around La Candelaria in BOG in September, and a foreign guy walked by with what I think was a Nikon D-90 and an external flash gun mounted on it. A woman shouted at him from a store " Senor, be careful! Put that away!". The locals know.

[Artisttyp]

This is (as of today) a $500 camera, so mas o menos a million pesos. That is two minimum monthly salaries in Colombia.

Though I have a few other and better cameras, I only take a little Panasonic travel zoom point-and-shoot with me, it stays on my belt in a case and is generally covered by a shirt or denim jacket. I do not travel with ANYTHING I cannot afford to lose. I wear a $50 watch and use a basic cell phone I got from Ebay for $12.

I am not being paranoid, just careful. I was walking around La Candelaria in BOG in September, and a foreign guy walked by with what I think was a Nikon D-90 and an external flash gun mounted on it. A woman shouted at him from a store " Senor, be careful! Put that away!". The locals know. Avid photographers should look into the canon elph s95. *Supposedly it's the best pocket camera out there. It can do 80% of what SLR's can do.

I am very happy to have gotten rid of my SLR. If you don't travel with organized tours or a la carte an SLR makes no sense in these countries. I've lost so many cool shots since I bought my SLR camera. No more.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Taxi guy looked like a young hoodie punk and he gave the doorman a tip or something then proceeded to drive me in the opposite direction of my hostel. I called him on it and he made some "ohhhh mistake and threw spanish around even though I had clearly repeated the address 5 times. District, Calle then carrera. Fare was 13k for something that is normally 10k. He stopped at some red lights and not at others. Really dicey.

Didn't hop around because of the rain and the bad mojo so back to bed. I don't know dude. It seems like you and your buddy who you say is a "newbie" are absolute poster children the kind that should stay in the confines of the MANSION. Walking around centro with your Canon or Nikons hanging around your neck. Your buddy who speaks some Spanish, is he latino or caucasian who speaks some spanish? (big difference) Considering you guys are staying in a hostel. You are prime targets for being robbed or worse even, being taken on the infamous "Pasaje Milionario" You're lucky somebody in the Bar didn't call and have you set up. Happens everyday.

[Member #4176]

Tried to go to Maracaibo last night but seems it was closed so I hopped in Barra Ejecutivo which is right next to it I think. 20-30 chicas some doable (most not) with 2 very nice blondes. Las americas is next to it as well but surrounding area seems waaay dangerous. The dude who looks like a bald arab man sat a 2 girls next to me and my friend and later dropped some lady drinks. Hoped my friend would have argued since my spanish is non-existent but he's a newbie. Picked a girl and the guy said 80k so I countered with 50k like the reports said but he said 80k. I refused and said 'vamos' and he went down to 70k. Then there was a misunderstanding with the bill and my friend thought we needed to pay 37k extra for a room (which was included in the 80k) and the mood was kinda spoiled now that haggling / miscommunication was involved over women. Still took the chick for 70k though. Carolina was good at what she does and surprised me after I finished by giving me a CBJ AFTER I finished and trying to get me up again. Tipped her 20k for the cool effort. Chicks here are cool and the atmosphere is generally good as long as there is no miscommunication. The 80k price they threw at me doesn't match the location and mind you I argued the point and then refused it, and then refused it again after it went to 70k since I thought he was trying to rip me as the previous guides said 50k.

Taxi guy looked like a young hoodie punk and he gave the doorman a tip or something then proceeded to drive me in the opposite direction of my hostel. I called him on it and he made some "ohhhh mistake and threw spanish around even though I had clearly repeated the address 5 times. District, Calle then carrera. Fare was 13k for something that is normally 10k. He stopped at some red lights and not at others. Really dicey.

Didn't hop around because of the rain and the bad mojo so back to bed. Dude when I comes to drivers you should try to get one that you trust and just call him. They can even hang with you. That girl you got for 70k this was at the strip clubs?

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Avid photographers should look into the canon elph s95. *Supposedly it's the best pocket camera out there. It can do 80% of what SLR's can do.

I am very happy to have gotten rid of my SLR. If you don't travel with organized tours or a la carte an SLR makes no sense in these countries. I've lost so many cool shots since I bought my SLR camera. No more. I too love the canons Artisttyp but I have upgraded from my Canon sd630. I chose to go with the Panasonic Lumix because of the wide angle function and the officlal LEICA Lens. Plus even a little cheaper. Takes crystal clear pictures and HD video at 12mp. http://reviews.cnet.com/4504-4_7-0.html?id=33736875&id=34154931&tag=compare

[Member #4176]

Zig Monger,

I don't really crave GFE, but gosh darn it, it just sometimes happens! Even at the casas. As far as Hit or Miss, well if you monger as a numbers game, the hits WILL come right along. I mean heck, every now and then even suckers get five card Blackjack at the casino, right?

Just speaking for myself, there are many times when I HIT and ended up with a MISS.

Cheers,

Cubanut.

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She looked nice and gave a GFE. I hope you took her back home.

[El Bacano]

What is the chances of a little speaking white boy like me gettin a gf in Medellin?

I do plan on going into mongering but cash is easy.

I need a little love. Any chance?

[Tbird]

Avid photographers should look into the canon elph s95. *Supposedly it's the best pocket camera out there. It can do 80% of what SLR's can do.

I am very happy to have gotten rid of my SLR. If you don't travel with organized tours or a la carte an SLR makes no sense in these countries. I've lost so many cool shots since I bought my SLR camera. No more. Artisttyp, I own the S95 and it is a fantastic camera. The fast 2. 0 lens makes it great for indoor shots without flash (dimly lit chica bars, anyone?).

However, it is almost $400 and I would HATE if anything happened to it. The Panasonic FH20 I travel with is only $139 on Amazon, has a decent lens, and its Intelligent Auto actually knows what it is doing. Also an 8x zoom for some tricky situations.

If after all these years of travel I finally get mugged in Bogota, they will not get much from me. The camera, a 3-year-old Skagen worth $50 at time of purchase, and an old wallet with 200K cash at most.

[Hollow Man]

Yeah, after Botero park with the camera it didn't come out again so no worries about that.

Visited Atenea and great line-up 8 chicas but it was just for recon. Sexy salas had one chunky chick. Back to New Life which had good options. Took Karin and it was sterile but thats kinda the way I prefer it. My friend had a wild chick that he had alot of fun with. 35k girl. 3k water.

Friend's spanish blows too but it's better than my nada. Got a PM that says he rate is still 50k so it looks like I got taken. That blows too. Going to stick to the nicer clubs instead.

Weather is sunny until 2- then splooge again.

Wednesday nights apparently B-Lounge is the happening (normal) club. Packed and good music. 20k cover and hottest chicks but this is a normal club.

Parque LLeras had cuties just sitting around but I didn't try for it cause I was already with a tourist chick and I have no Spanish skills anyway.

In the end I find that picking up regular girls is easy enough as tourists chicks are good for fun, and if your spanish is good then local chicks are fun. Going to move on soon to scout out other parts of the country.

[Cuero99]

Avid photographers should look into the canon elph s95. *Supposedly it's the best pocket camera out there. It can do 80% of what SLR's can do.

I am very happy to have gotten rid of my SLR. If you don't travel with organized tours or a la carte an SLR makes no sense in these countries. I've lost so many cool shots since I bought my SLR camera. No more. I'm not really an avid photographer, but I have a dislike for poor cell phone pics and low quality snapshots, especially when a potentially great view of a cute chica is wasted. A bad result of a nice view, fuzzy, too dark or too light, was all too common for me. So about a year ago I bought a Canon Powershot S90 to replace my older Powershot A560. I just checked out the S95, it looks to me like the S90 is just a slightly lesser model.

Anyway, this S90 takes fantastic pictures, much clearer pictures than the older and lesser quality A560, especially under low light. The downsides are the S90 is a bit large and heavy for a point and shoot, and the quality comes at a price tag compared to the average PAS. But that price is still less than even the most basic SLR while producing very near SLR quality pics as far as I can tell, with little fuss and inconvenience.

Based on the quality of my recent photos, for my purposes I don't see myself ever bothering with an SLR. This camera will be more than satisfactory to me until it breaks down or is stolen.

[Ricker]

I've always paid for an hour in the casa, first because I don't like to rush like hell (getting old!) , and even an hour goes fast as hell. I always like to engage the girls in conversation, first, because I like to talk to them to practise Spanish, and second, to try, if only a little, to get into their heads a bit as to how they view life, which is utterly different than anything most of us could ever want to experience ... I feel the same way amigo, I like to chill just a bit with ém before the love making.

Often leads to much better GFE.

Of course every once in a while you can choose bad and catch a dud, but it's only a waste of 20k pesos, the difference between an hour vs a half if she's not a keeper.

I've known the manager of New Life for years and when I find a sweetie there, I tell him 'tiempo libre' and just pay for whatever time I stay with the chica. And at times, it's been a few hours.

Have fun.

[Tbird]

I just checked out the S95, it looks to me like the S90 is just a slightly lesser model.

The ONLY difference between the two worth mentioning is that the S95 has 720p video whereas the S90 is VGA; and Canon tightened up a few dials.

Enjoy! Shoot hot chicas and share when you can. After my next trip I am stuck in SP until September. .

[Member #4176]

Yeah, after Botero park with the camera it didn't come out again so no worries about that.

Visited Atenea and great line-up 8 chicas but it was just for recon. Sexy salas had one chunky chick. Back to New Life which had good options. Took Karin and it was sterile but thats kinda the way I prefer it. My friend had a wild chick that he had alot of fun with. 35k girl. 3k water.

Friend's spanish blows too but it's better than my nada. Got a PM that says he rate is still 50k so it looks like I got taken. That blows too. Going to stick to the nicer clubs instead.

Weather is sunny until 2- then splooge again.

Wednesday nights apparently B-Lounge is the happening (normal) club. Packed and good music. 20k cover and hottest chicks but this is a normal club.

Parque LLeras had cuties just sitting around but I didn't try for it cause I was already with a tourist chick and I have no Spanish skills anyway.

In the end I find that picking up regular girls is easy enough as tourists chicks are good for fun, and if your spanish is good then local chicks are fun. Going to move on soon to scout out other parts of the country. Dude, you need to have your eyes and ears open. When ever I ask the local is a place dangerous they say yes or no but, always say NOT to attract too much attention to yourself. If that guy gave you a price that was more then is charged to the locals then his can see that your a mark gringo. With money. Warning light should have went off. And you were carring a camera around. Wooosh. Dude.

[Jfregedie]

I want to take my first trip to Colombia and want some info. Whats a good place to start for newbies and any all inclusive resorts near the action.

Thanks

[Colashermosas]

I have a friend that is curious in doing this (maybe she has some experience before)

I said $200=400 mil COP for an night at an espectaculo, romantic dinner and then sex all night.

With several clientes a months she could get started paying her bills, py the childrens fee at the expensive private s.

$200 X 20 per months= $4000. That is 10 times more that my friend makes resposible for an small, but, tasty, restuarant.

I will give her the offer and hope that you gay can help me out with some tip, where she can make money in an 1st claess environment.

Saludos

[SavePros321]

I want to take my first trip to Colombia and want some info. Whats a good place to start for newbies and any all inclusive resorts near the action.

ThanksYou should talk to Colashermosas.

But seriously, just read the last few post by Cubanut.

[Goga Fung]

To those who have been to both places and checked out both scenes:

I'm set to visit Colombia a few days and though I've been to Cartagena, I've never been to Medellin and have never checked out the casa scene. I have been to Rio and it's incredible termas. What are the similarities / differences, pros / cons, between the casas and the termas?

Thanks in advance.Medellin casas and Rio thermas are very different things. I've had about 10 girls in Rio thermas and one from Copacabana, and all of them were either good or fantastic. Some of the best fucks in my life.

Medellin casas are normally 5 times cheaper than Thermas, but the girls' quality and performance is far from Brazileras in thermas. The good thing about casas, most of them are dirt cheap, so in case you have time and energy, you can go through many girls and find some gems. Then if you develop good "relationship" with them they can give you really good time.

To me brazileras were much more open-minded than most colombianas. But I guess it depends on personal taste.

[SlamCity7777]

I have a friend that is curious in doing this (maybe she has some experience before)

I said $200=400 mil COP for an night at an espectaculo, romantic dinner and then sex all night.

With several clientes a months she could get started paying her bills, py the childrens fee at the expensive private s.

$200 X 20 per months= $4000. That is 10 times more that my friend makes resposible for an small, but, tasty, restuarant.

I will give her the offer and hope that you gay can help me out with some tip, where she can make money in an 1st claess environment.

SaludosYour friend is Linda why buena why simpatica? Manda me foticos why vamos a ver! Dale!

[LuckyEddie]

I have a friend that is curious in doing this (maybe she has some experience before)

I said $200=400 mil COP for an night at an espectaculo, romantic dinner and then sex all night.

With several clientes a months she could get started paying her bills, py the childrens fee at the expensive private s.

$200 X 20 per months= $4000. That is 10 times more that my friend makes resposible for an small, but, tasty, restuarant.

I will give her the offer and hope that you gay can help me out with some tip, where she can make money in an 1st claess environment.

SaludosJust don't mention anythng cultural or the bluffers will come out in hoardes.

[LuckyEddie]

I want to take my first trip to Colombia and want some info. Whats a good place to start for newbies and any all inclusive resorts near the action.

ThanksMedellin Mansion (Casablanca) is a good place that can get one started. Everything all in one spot, bilingual staff who knows the ropes.

If you have a few weeks, speak proficiant Spanish and have street smarts the learning curve is fun and can pay off in the long run.

[Chesscat]

I have decided to join the contingent that is outraged that someone will come onto this forum, with almost a decade of reports from all over Colombia, subdivided into subjects like apartments, specific hotels, etc, etc, and ask, hey dudes, WTF should I do? I am highly offended (and outraged)! But if you really can't read, then I suggest you stay home.

[Member #4394]

how about changing the thread name "medelin list" to "medellin list (info for new comers)"? plus, copy/move some posts by cubanut and others for newbies to the thread?


i have decided to join the contingent that is outraged that someone will come onto this forum, with almost a decade of reports from all over colombia, subdivided into subjects like apartments, specific hotels, etc, etc, and ask, hey dudes, wtf should i do? i am highly offended (and outraged)! but if you really can't read, then i suggest you stay home.

[Fun Luvr]

I have a friend that is curious in doing this (maybe she has some experience before)

I said $200=400 mil COP for an night at an espectaculo, romantic dinner and then sex all night.

With several clientes a months she could get started paying her bills, py the childrens fee at the expensive private s.

$200 X 20 per months= $4000. That is 10 times more that my friend makes resposible for an small, but, tasty, restuarant.

I will give her the offer and hope that you gay can help me out with some tip, where she can make money in an 1st claess environment.

SaludosI don't think she is going to find 20 guys a month that will pay $200 a night no matter if she is a ten. That would be one almost every night when you take out the five days or so a month she is out of commission.

[Iguana Six]

I've been to MDE twice, but only from PTY.

I have read that some company has inexpensive flights from the MIA (or a nearby airport) to MDE? Anyone have any info?

[You Can]

If your talking about miami airport, then you have to fly out of Ft. Lauderdale on spirit airlines. www.spiritairlines.com They run alot of specials. But nickel and dime you but I enjoy flying with them its convenient for me.


I've been to MDE twice, but only from PTY.

I have read that some company has inexpensive flights from the MIA (or a nearby airport) to MDE? Anyone have any info?

[You Can]

She isn't going to find even 3 guys that are going to pay that. 200, 000 peso top for all night, an she isn't getting no romantic dinner. Guys dreaming.


I don't think she is going to find 20 guys a month that will pay $200 a night no matter if she is a ten. That would be one almost every night when you take out the five days or so a month she is out of commission.

[Iguana Six]

If your talking about miami airport, then you have to fly out of Ft. Lauderdale on spirit airlines.

www.spiritairlines.com

They run alot of specials. But nickel and dime you but I enjoy flying with them its convenient for me. I appreciate the assist.

[Joe Six Pack]

Hello guys,

I will be traveling to Medellin in Feb, during my last trip I met two cute girls on RL, one of the girls name was Bibiana, she was wild, smoked pot, and fucked my crazy, did everything I asked her including a bi-show.

She had her profile on this page http://www.romancelatina.com/en/member/profile.php?profile_id=1996614

But now I cannot find her, I do not have her phone number also, can someone help? Does anyone have her contact, some of her photos that I had.

[Tweeners]

Hello, guys,

I will be traveling to Medellin in Feb, during my last trip I met two cute girls on RL, one of the girls name was Bibiana, she was wild, smoked pot, and fucked my crazy, did everything I asked her including a bi-show.

She had her profile on this page.

http://www.romancelatina.com/en/member/profile.php?profile_id=1996614

But now I cannot find her, I do not have her phone number also, can someone help? Does anyone have her contact, some of her photos that I had. She's out of the game on WU retainer by some gringo sucker. She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now. WU or not, these girls will earn when opportunity presents itself. Please don't PM me for contact info, I don't have any, but if you check her FB page you'll see a photo of her and her sucker

[Aussie Greg]

Bibiana is still around and working.

A. G.


She's out of the game on WU retainer by some gringo sucker. She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now. WU or not, these girls will earn when opportunity presents itself. Please don't PM me for contact info, I don't have any, but if you check her FB page you'll see a photo of her and her sucker

[LuckyEddie]

She's out of the game on WU retainer by some gringo sucker. She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now. WU or not, these girls will earn when opportunity presents itself. Please don't PM me for contact info, I don't have any, but if you check her FB page you'll see a photo of her and her suckerWhy oh why these guys continue to make hookers their girlfriend totally baffles me. Then they wonder why or scream injustice when they find out she still has her rolodex of top clients and is serviceing them them when the time is right. People just don't quit something they have going that brings in good money. Just ask Donald Trump, he still works.

[Furysys]

Part A doesn't bother me at all. Nothing wrong with having a hooker as a gf. You are absolutely right about Part B, these guys find them in a casa in el Centro, and figure they will save them by sending them money so they don't have to be hookers anymore. They will have the girl all to themselves. In fact, if it were me, I'd love her to service her regs, gives me time to check out what else is available!

[HelpRules]

Joe, that girl is incredible. Boobs real? What percentage of the girls at the casas look like that? I really need to go to Colombia.

[HelpRules]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a WU retainer and FB page?

[LuckyEddie]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a WU retainer and FB page?Western Union, FB is Facebook, let's GWTFP

[MrK]

Bibiana is still around and working.

A. G.Hoping someone can help me. I want to visit Medellin this weekend and stay at the famous mansion. No luck with emails or phone calls. Is the mansion booked up?

[Tweeners]

Why oh why these guys continue to make hookers their girlfriend totally baffles me. Then they wonder why or scream injustice when they find out she still has her rolodex of top clients and is serviceing them them when the time is right. People just don't quit something they have going that brings in good money. Just ask Donald Trump, he still works.Guy proposed to a MM girl last night, brought the ring from the USA. If he's smart he brought it home to keep it safe, won't be too long before it grows legs and walks away. Was told her 13 year old daughter blew a gasket at the thought of Mom marrying a drunk Americano. Guys do what guys do

[Tweeners]

Bibiana is still around and working.

A. G. As I said "She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now." She's much less visible, gone from RL, gone from CC and her friend list on FB went from over 150+ to just 38. In addition to the one gringo who has her on lockdown, there are a total of 2 other mongers. That total used to be much higher.

Her profile photo is of her with said gringo so he's quite clearly marked his territory. Yes she still works, works often. But unless you have contact info, you have to be subtle about contacting her, she has it pretty good right now.

Same can also be said of Carolina, the cutie with the split lip. She is also on WU retainer by an American currently living in Tokyo. She did the same thing as Bibiana, put up a photo of her and said gringo as her profile photo, then purged most of her friend list. Her I have good conatct info for.

[Tweeners]

Joe, that girl is incredible. Boobs real? What percentage of the girls at the casas look like that? I really need to go to Colombia.Bibiana's tetas are real.

Casas can vary from day to day, hour to hour.

[Tweeners]

Part A doesn't bother me at all. Nothing wrong with having a hooker as a gf. You are absolutely right about Part B, these guys find them in a casa in el Centro, and figure they will save them by sending them money so they don't have to be hookers anymore. They will have the girl all to themselves. In fact, if it were me, I'd love her to service her regs, gives me time to check out what else is available!Many times gringos need to be told that in Colombia, there's no such thing as a steady barfine. You can lock them down when you're there, but the girls that have been in the game for a while and have dispensed contact info will get calls. None of them are turning down money and all of them think that the WU gringo will never find out.

Then someone takes a photo, and the drama begins.

[HelpRules]

Whats her last name so I can check it on FB. There are a million bibiana. Does she have any sexy photos on FB.

[Rickyj]

Is there a way that I can set up the phone so that people calling me don't know that I am outside of the U. S? I live alone but relatives call me all the time and I don't want them to hear the international ring tone beep. I wouldn't really pick up though. I also want to see if there is a way that if I call them from overseas it shows my number. Not sure if I am making any sense here.

[John]

Hi guys,

I have stayed many a times in Casa Blanca I and II. My coming trip in February I plan to stay few days at CB 1 and then move on to an apartment for few days. I have noticed some of my girls would prefer to visit a nice condo. I would like to get some information from those who have stayed in a nice apartment near to Casa Blanca.

I am looking for some condo with nice amenities and if possible with Jacuzzi.

Please let me know on this board or via PM.

Regards,

John.

[Aussie Greg]

Try calling Sara today from 9. 30 to 6. 30pm, public holiday here yesterday and she took the computer home with her over the weekend and didn't have internet.

We did have a secretary here from 11. 00am to 8. 00pm Sunday and Monday but maybe she wasnt in the office when you called and I wasnt walking past the office when you called either.

I think we have 1 room available this week.

A. G.


Hoping someone can help me. I want to visit Medellin this weekend and stay at the famous mansion. No luck with emails or phone calls. Is the mansion booked up?

[John Gault]

As I said "She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now." She's much less visible, gone from RL, gone from CC and her friend list on FB went from over 150+ to just 38. In addition to the one gringo who has her on lockdown, there are a total of 2 other mongers. That total used to be much higher.

Her profile photo is of her with said gringo so he's quite clearly marked his territory. Yes she still works, works often. But unless you have contact info, you have to be subtle about contacting her, she has it pretty good right now.

Same can also be said of Carolina, the cutie with the split lip. She is also on WU retainer by an American currently living in Tokyo. She did the same thing as Bibiana, put up a photo of her and said gringo as her profile photo, then purged most of her friend list. Her I have good conatct info for. Ah Carolina, A great girl with a nice personality. I am surprised she only has one WU customer. She is a friend, but a little out of my price range.

[Ricker]

Many times gringos need to be told that in Colombia, there's no such thing as a steady barfine. You can lock them down when you're there, but the girls that have been in the game for a while and have dispensed contact info will get calls. None of them are turning down money and all of them think that the WU gringo will never find out.

Then someone takes a photo, and the drama begins. Tiene razon mi amigo! How right you are, and as Lucky Eddie said, once they've found an easy source of income, they may be more discreet about it, but they'll keep themselves in the game.

I befriended a beautiful girl here in Brazil who's ENGAGED to a guy in Europe.

He bought her a car, an apartment, sends hert $1000 bucks a month and vists for 2 weeks a year.

They've been engaged for about a year now.

She calls me frequently and we hang out, do the fun stuff, and I help her out a little.

We've built 'uma amizade colorida' as they say in Brazil. A colorfull friendship.

I do feel bad, and I'm being sincere when I say this, when he calls from Europe and she's sitting on top of me riding and she answers the phone saying that she misses him.

I won't post her fotos or her name or other identifying info, because chances are, these guys read this forum too, and I don't want to ruin a good thoing for these girls, or for the guys either.

Hey, I help some special girls out too, and at times I've sent them dinero, but I know what the deal is, and I don't believe that they're sitting around just waiting for me to call or return, and I don't really care.

For some guys though, it's all about the illusion, and it may just help them get thru the day in pussy prison, and it's still cheaper than actually marrying and then the subsequent BS.

Take care amigos.

[Tweeners]

I won't post her fotos or her name or other identifying info, because chances are, these guys read this forum too, and I don't want to ruin a good thoing for these girls, or for the guys either.Very classy, whenever I know a girl has an ongoing financial support in place, I assume that said novio likely found her the same way I did, and read the same sites. I never out the WU novios, no point. He gets crushed, she gets no money, lose-lose IMO

[Tweeners]

Ah Carolina, A great girl with a nice personality. I am surprised she only has one WU customer. She is a friend, but a little out of my price range.She is the best.

I wish her and the novio all the happiness in the world

[Cubfan1963]

WTF is WU? I know I will bash my head the table out of sheer stupidity when I find out the answer.

Thanks

[Avatar]

WU=Western Union=sending the girl money so she can stop being a "working girl" Har dee har har!

[SavePros321]

WTF is WU? I know I will bash my head the table out of sheer stupidity when I find out the answer.

ThanksSee post #6101. Someone just asked this question yesterday.

SMDH.

[Gerem]

You guys are talking about Angie or Bibi?

[Tweeners]

Yes, WU = Western Union

And many guys send payments to the girls because they'll promise to stop working, they never do and the guy sending the money is subsidizing the fun for guys in town at that time. It's sad and it happens waaaaaaaay more often than you think. Some of the girls have their own WU cards, they collect so often!

[SlamCity7777]

Tiene razon mi amigo! How right you are, and as Lucky Eddie said, once they've found an easy source of income, they may be more discreet about it, but they'll keep themselves in the game.

I befriended a beautiful girl here in Brazil who's ENGAGED to a guy in Europe.

He bought her a car, an apartment, sends hert $1000 bucks a month and vists for 2 weeks a year.

They've been engaged for about a year now.

She calls me frequently and we hang out, do the fun stuff, and I help her out a little.

We've built 'uma amizade colorida' as they say in Brazil. A colorfull friendship.

I do feel bad, and I'm being sincere when I say this, when he calls from Europe and she's sitting on top of me riding and she answers the phone saying that she misses him.

I won't post her fotos or her name or other identifying info, because chances are, these guys read this forum too, and I don't want to ruin a good thoing for these girls, or for the guys either.

Hey, I help some special girls out too, and at times I've sent them dinero, but I know what the deal is, and I don't believe that they're sitting around just waiting for me to call or return, and I don't really care.

For some guys though, it's all about the illusion, and it may just help them get thru the day in pussy prison, and it's still cheaper than actually marrying and then the subsequent BS.

Take care amigos. Ricker I always enjoy your posts! I've been staying away because as of late it seems like the same questions all the time and the OG Mongers (OG=Original Gansta) with real info get stressed and upset. USE THE SEARCH feature!

I hear ya on the "Engaged" local girl, I was the other guy in this equation, the dude was from the UK and paid the rent, bills, ect. He saw her twice a year while I had my tooth brush and shave kit in the bathroom!

Do I feel bad for this guy? Nope.

I'm sure he wants to see her more but the idea, the illusion for him is that he has a beautiful Latina Chick that is all about him and only him. I'm sure he goes out for a drink after work and when he says "Blah-Blah-Blah my young, beautiful, Brazilian fiance. You want to see a picture?" and his buddies eyes pop out of their heads and he feels that smug feeling of pure awesome. He might have more loot than brains, if that's how he wants to spend his loot let him, it's his loot, his life, his dream.

Not hating, but I've been suckered before into thinking I was "El unico". It happens some girls just have that sexy-sweet-jedi-mind trick thing going on!

I still send certain "Special Girls" regalitos like flowers for their birthday, Christmas Cards, and yes a few bucks to help them make ends meet or for their kids birthday. Why the hell not? What's $50-$100 to me or to you? This amount of money is like 1 meal or a few rounds of drinks. For her it's the MOST AMAZING AND KIND GESTURE. If you play your cards right you'll be viewed in this light and not as some chump. You must dictate and control the process and perception. Don't be a Chump be a Hero. I can't explain how you do it cause the Game "is to be sold not told" if you've spent over $400 in a strip club in America / Sex Jail and NOT got laid than you don't get it. If you've taken a stripper home and spend little money and have no coke; clearly you're on the grind!

Anyway my point is $50 and you'll never need worry about service or any of that junk; just pure GFE if not actual Girl Friend time spent. It happens but you have to it right and be in control.

[Mr Gogo]

Yes, WU = Western Union

And many guys send payments to the girls because they'll promise to stop working, they never do and the guy sending the money is subsidizing the fun for guys in town at that time. It's sad and it happens waaaaaaaay more often than you think. Some of the girls have their own WU cards, they collect so often! Last month at MIA airport I met a guy that was also going to the DR. He was going to Santo Domingo to purchase heavy duty equipment to ship to Haiti. He previously had met a Dominicana that was tricking in Haiti and had retired her to Santo Domingo. He sends her 200usd per month and had 5000usd cash for his brief visit with her. He spoke no spanish, didn't have any common sense but had Haitian relief money out the ass. He was married in the states but was in love with this Dominicana. I had to get on the phone with her to confirm his airport pickup with her. He had no clue how the game worked and I kind of felt sorry for her.

His buddy was an older gentleman (62) and had a 23yo Dominicana (he pays for her apartment 500usd). She wanted a baby so he was going to get a reverse vesectomy to have a baby. I said"what if it doesn't work between you and her and you get put on child support". He said ill just leave the country. This pissed me of that he would intentially have a baby and run (the baby deserves better).

Some guys don't fucking think about what they are doing, they just do what feels good for now. The funny part is that I have women that have discontinued conversation with me because I don't send money. Then two months later I get a"te extrano" or 'te quiero mucho" text asking when I'm coming.

[Dcfan77]

On the att network in Medellin my ihpone worked great. I make calls and receive calls and it all shows up like normal (like in the states) even texts. But the charges are thru the roof. So I just stuck to texting.


Is there a way that I can set up the phone so that people calling me don't know that I am outside of the U. S? I live alone but relatives call me all the time and I don't want them to hear the international ring tone beep. I wouldn't really pick up though. I also want to see if there is a way that if I call them from overseas it shows my number. Not sure if I am making any sense here.

[LuckyEddie]

WTF is WU? I know I will bash my head the table out of sheer stupidity when I find out the answer.

ThanksSavepros is a nice guy. I can be abrasive. Open your eyes man!

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1111118&viewfull=1#post1111118

[HelpRules]

I don't have a problem having a hooker for a girlfriend, but why send money when your not even there. How stupid can you be. Anyone that thinks a ho will stop being a ho because you send money is a fool. You know what they say about a fool and his money.

[Reefski]

On the left is Bibiana and I believe (but am not sure) that this is the Carolina everyones talking about.

Reef


Whats her last name so I can check it on FB. There are a million bibiana. Does she have any sexy photos on FB.

[LuckyEddie]

I befriended a beautiful girl here in Brazil who's ENGAGED to a guy in Europe.

He bought her a car, an apartment, sends hert $1000 bucks a month and vists for 2 weeks a year.

They've been engaged for about a year now.

She calls me frequently and we hang out, do the fun stuff, and I help her out a little.
And many guys send payments to the girls because they'll promise to stop working, they never do and the guy sending the money is subsidizing the fun for guys in town at that time. It's sad and it happens waaaaaaaay more often than you think. When the out of town gringo is paying / subsidizing, the girl is very relaxed, chooses how and with who she wants to spend her time and performs really well. Especially if you have something together and it is not a PFP situation. She does not HAVE to work (in any job. Not just as a puta) so it is really good for her.

Like Ricker I have one who was engaged and now she must have some other highbrow or is back together with the first guy because she has a brand new big screened smartphone. She did tell me that she has been known to hang with the gringo crowd and I know that the fiancee is / was from New York. By the way she has no idea I know about her fiancee (if he still exists) and I do not pay her nor do I take her out. I slightly over pay her round trip cab fare from Envigado and give her some chocolates every now and then.

In that middle period between guys she used to stay the night but now no. So I know she has something going on with someone and I don't care. Also her level of performace has improved. No strings attached great sex no headaches and she's a pornstar in the sack.

Whoever you are guy. Thank you!

[LuckyEddie]

Whats her last name so I can check it on FB. There are a million bibiana. Does she have any sexy photos on FB.I can't believe no one has stepped forward and posted this poor girl's last name and other vital statistics.

Someone did post a link to the private webcam in her bedroom but I searched and I cannot find it. A little help?

[SavePros321]

If no on has her last name maybe someone can post her credit report or grades from high school? Maybe a copy of her cedula?

I have a link I can send to the private webcam in her bedroom. Just PM me. Judging from all the folks who have recently shown up and who refuse to RTFF your going to be receiving an email soon letting you know that you've reached you ISG inbox quota, LOL.

[Cubfan1963]

See post #6101. Someone just asked this question yesterday.

SMDH. Yeah, I did a search but came up empty and the abbreviation was not on the list. Thanks for the info. That sound you hear is my head bouncing off my table.

[LuckyEddie]

Judging from all the folks who have recently shown up and who refuse to RTFF your going to be receiving an email soon letting you know that you've reached you ISG inbox quota, LOL.At least you know I'm kidding. Also I altered my post a bit. Either way this guy is determined to steal this girl for his own wife and he's convinced that someone is going to post nude photos, facebook info, her home address and phone number here on a public forum. Hehehe

[Reefski]

Last name is a fairly common Hispanic one. I remember a You Tube video of her that was smoking hot, fully clothed but just exuding her great personality and sexiness. I had emailed it to a buddy and just clicked on it now but got an error message. With removing a bunch of her FB friends and cleaning up any lingering RomanceLatina traces she's doing a good job covering her tracks.

Bottom line is she's kind of a Jeckel and Hyde but still a great girl most of the time. I hope she does well from this walking wallet she's lined up. Hell, there's a 50/50 chance he's an ISG member and reading this.

Reef


I can't believe no one has stepped forward and posted this poor girl's last name and other vital statistics.

Someone did post a link to the private webcam in her bedroom but I searched and I cannot find it. A little help?

[Tweeners]

Last name is a fairly common Hispanic one. I remember a You Tube video of her that was smoking hot, fully clothed but just exuding her great personality and sexiness. I had emailed it to a buddy and just clicked on it now but got an error message. With removing a bunch of her FB friends and cleaning up any lingering RomanceLatina traces she's doing a good job covering her tracks.

Bottom line is she's kind of a Jeckel and Hyde but still a great girl most of the time. I hope she does well from this walking wallet she's lined up. Hell, there's a 50/50 chance he's an ISG member and reading this.

Reef. He's a monger, he met her at Chateau Greg, so I think the chances are very good that he's a member here. I can't out her by dropping the last name, what it comes down to is you know her or you don't. Book a room at the Mansion, ask Greg to write her number down, since he can't call putas anymore, and give her a call. I suspect that she'll meet anyone that she knows already.

If her WU hubby is reading this, please ignore the previous paragraph. While almost all girls on WU will continue to work, yours is different and will love only you, money isn't an object as she loves you for you.

[Chesscat]

It's considered naive to attribute feelings to the working girls. When a girl tries to reach out for something better, like a real relationship, it's disappointing to me that lots of guys, people with resources, money, education, exert themselves to try to submarine or frustrate the attempts of these girls to realize a better life. Carolina is a good person, she has a good heart. Bibiana in my opinion does too, though she is a different person obviously. But as the people with resources, money, education, why not give these girls a chance, a break? I wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! Is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks?

[Ricker]

. I still send certain "Special Girls" regalitos like flowers for their birthday, Christmas Cards, and yes a few bucks to help them make ends meet or for their kids birthday. Why the hell not? What's $50-$100 to me or to you? This amount of money is like 1 meal or a few rounds of drinks. For her it's the MOST AMAZING AND KIND GESTURE. If you play your cards right you'll be viewed in this light and not as some chump. You must dictate and control the process and perception. Don't be a Chump be a Hero. I can't explain how you do it cause the Game "is to be sold not told" if you've spent over $400 in a strip club in America / Sex Jail and NOT got laid than you don't get it. If you've taken a stripper home and spend little money and have no coke; clearly you're on the grind!

Anyway my point is $50 and you'll never need worry about service or any of that junk; just pure GFE if not actual Girl Friend time spent. It happens but you have to it right and be in control. Totally agree amigo, nothing wrong with helping out some 'friends', and like you say, it pays back big time.

Today, I'm in Brazil, I brought a beautiful, sweet working girl an old, inexpensive cel phone of mine and bought a sim card for about $6 dollars, after I found out hers got stolen recently.

Her face lit up like she was a kid at Christmas :)

Do you think she showed me the love or what?

My knees are still wobbly. Hehehehe.

I love the sweet ones, when the little things make them happy, of course I roam far away from the gringo hideaways. No offense, I'm one too, it's just ... well, you know.

[Ricker]

... i wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks? ... now now senor, i bet most guys wish these girls the best, i know i do.

i respected them and treated them well when they were working, and i respect them as well now.

the point guys are making is just to keep your eyes open if you happen to be the one in love with an ex-worker.

each situation is different, with some guys much more naive than others and some girls much more coniving than others. just depends ehhhh.

[Legal Tender]

it's considered naive to attribute feelings to the working girls. when a girl tries to reach out for something better, like a real relationship, it's disappointing to me that lots of guys, people with resources, money, education, exert themselves to try to submarine or frustrate the attempts of these girls to realize a better life. carolina is a good person, she has a good heart. bibiana in my opinion does too, though she is a different person obviously. but as the people with resources, money, education, why not give these girls a chance, a break? i wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks?resources, money, education. . . do not equate to character. and it is not naive to believe that a good helping of compassion and care is the right thing to do. funny, but we all know, in almost any situation, what is the right or wrong thing to do. any effort to aid the suffering of another is a good thing. the buddha teaches that the purpose in life is to ease the suffering of others. pragmatically, a little care and concern is all it takes to be rewarded with passion and pleasure. nothing better than some "i know you do care about me" sex. finally, it's just good karma. otherwise, one is just a "jaded hating fuck." simple as that.

only good energy!

[LuckyEddie]

it's considered naive to attribute feelings to the working girls. when a girl tries to reach out for something better, like a real relationship, it's disappointing to me that lots of guys, people with resources, money, education, exert themselves to try to submarine or frustrate the attempts of these girls to realize a better life. carolina is a good person, she has a good heart. bibiana in my opinion does too, though she is a different person obviously. but as the people with resources, money, education, why not give these girls a chance, a break? i wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks? chesrep001, you making stuff up buddy or what? angry inside? need a hug? pass that spliff.

no disrespect intended but somehow you are bit confused and have interpreted that posters here don't wish these two girls and their guys happiness or success.

i missed that in all the posts here and thought the general jist was just that "they are still focking clients for $$ and the guy probably doesn't know or is being played." not to mention bibi is a self confessed aprepera (lesbian).

was there another point you somehow uncovered or was inadvertantly deleted demonstrating that posters here are naive, jaded and hating fucks?

[Reefski]

Completely agree Ricker. When I was mongering mainly in SEA I started buying cheap earrings and giving them out to some of the more affectionate bar girls. Nowadays I find that works just as well here in S. America. When I'm in the US I get on Amazon and buy 6 or so sets in the $20 to $25 range, bring them back and then give them out when I feel like it.

I just need to remember to get out of town before their ears infect and turn green. Hah!

Reef


Today, I'm in Brazil, I brought a beautiful, sweet working girl an old, inexpensive cel phone of mine and bought a sim card for about $6 dollars, after I found out hers got stolen recently.

Her face lit up like she was a kid at Christmas.

Do you think she showed me the love or what?

My knees are still wobbly. Hehehehe.

[Tweeners]

it's considered naive to attribute feelings to the working girls. when a girl tries to reach out for something better, like a real relationship, it's disappointing to me that lots of guys, people with resources, money, education, exert themselves to try to submarine or frustrate the attempts of these girls to realize a better life. carolina is a good person, she has a good heart. bibiana in my opinion does too, though she is a different person obviously. but as the people with resources, money, education, why not give these girls a chance, a break? i wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks?nothing wrong with wishing them well, but really the halos slip when they promise to stop working and don't. afaik carolina hasn't been working, bibiana does and right there is the difference and every wu lockdown starts with the same promises. some can keep those promises but the vast number don't. i'm guessing you are or at least a friend of bibiana's sponsor?

[Mtn Snow]

I always before I go get on e-bay and buy wholesale lots of make up. $15. 00 gets you 100 different things of make up. Lipstick, eye liner ect. From brand names. The girls go bonkers. Especially if is says Maybelline or Victoria secret. They love anything lip gloss, eyeliners, masquera. And I give it out to all of them. Talk about a little goes a long way! Now when I go back. They all know Santa showed up and boy o boy! Talk about attention!


Completely agree Ricker. When I was mongering mainly in SEA I started buying cheap earrings and giving them out to some of the more affectionate bar girls. Nowadays I find that works just as well here in S. America. When I'm in the US I get on Amazon and buy 6 or so sets in the $20 to $25 range, bring them back and then give them out when I feel like it.

I just need to remember to get out of town before their ears infect and turn green. Hah!

Reef.

[Chesscat]

No, I'm not a friend of her friend, I don't know him. I am a friend of Bibiana's, or used to be, and Carolina also. I just think we should be helping these girls in general, and no one can take away my personal set of rose-colored glasses!

[Rickyj]

On the att network in Medellin my ihpone worked great. I make calls and receive calls and it all shows up like normal (like in the states) even texts. But the charges are thru the roof. So I just stuck to texting.So if I call you and I'm here in USA and you are in Colombia I hear the ringer as normal, meaning I wouldn; t hear the international beeping as the ringer? I have an iphone too on att.

[Hang Low 69]

Can't wait for the WU to get her the visa. Then I can save some money and Fuck her in the USA and not have to fly south. She told me last month she would be seeing me soon. I guess thats what she was talking about.

[Tweeners]

I agree with that 100%, I'm friends with both as well and any good fortune that finds them is Ok with me. We were just speaking to the reality of most WU arrangements.

[Bobsthrobbinknob]

I have known a beautiful paisa for almost 2 years. She styles hair, does manicures and pedicures out of her living room and also in a salon. She (and her sister) would NEVER be with a man in a P4P situation. Many of the Colombian women have the same "principales".

Finding a girl for a LTR who in the past has chosen to sell pussy instead of having higher standards will generally only lead to disappointment in the future. She will always have some sort of financial problem and her only solution in the past has been lay on her back. What do you think it will be in the future?

[TweedleD]

Its all good, Business is good, life is great, people are beatiful,"I don't care if she cums lays stays or prays, what ever happens, my toes keep tapping" I don; t get why people want to slam and criticize each other on this board, Pretty much its all good. If you want to "hit it and quit it" fine. If you want wife up, cool. If you love this hotel or that "bed and breakfast "place, thats fine, If you want to spend too much money, If you want to be a cheap charlie, no problem, just have fun, and stop badmouthing people you have never met, Just my humble opinion.

[Member #4176]

Its all good, Business is good, life is great, people are beatiful,"I don't care if she cums lays stays or prays, what ever happens, my toes keep tapping" I don; t get why people want to slam and criticize each other on this board, Pretty much its all good. If you want to "hit it and quit it" fine. If you want wife up, cool. If you love this hotel or that "bed and breakfast "place, thats fine, If you want to spend too much money, If you want to be a cheap charlie, no problem, just have fun, and stop badmouthing people you have never met, Just my humble opinion.I like this post. Just go with the flow. No worries and enjoy life.

[LuckyEddie]

I don; t get why people want to slam and criticize each other on this board, Pretty much its all good.... just have fun, and stop badmouthing people you have never met, Just my humble opinion.Am I readiing the same forum? Who is bad mouthing and criticizing who? Maybe I have some posters on block?

Besides one guy with shit colored glasses (

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1111524&viewfull=1#post1111524

) I have not seen any bashing, badmouthing or nonsense. Just the usual banter. JMHO

[LuckyEddie]

So if I call you and I'm here in USA and you are in Colombia I hear the ringer as normal, meaning I wouldn; t hear the international beeping as the ringer? I have an iphone too on att.It doesn't matter what you have. When you are on another network roaming internationally and you have paid for International roaming with your carrier (ATT) when you step off the plane in Colombia the local 3G Comcel tower picks up your sim and communicates to ATT (everyone actually) that they have you and ATT responds back with an open gateway or 'yes' (because you have Int roaming). So when someone in the US calls your US ATT number ATT forwards the call to Comcel who knows where you are.

This is the point where ATT and Comcel are both handling your call. With ATT handling the US side: the caller to the sattelite, and Comcel handling from the comsat to you.

Note: Comcel is in charge of sending back whatever it wants through ATT and ATT has no idea what Comcel is going to send back (besides the basics) and acts as a conduit only counting minutes to charge you once the call is connected, so your callers will hear the Comcel international ring or the Comcel international busy signal or the Comcel international prompts in Spanish or your very own international voice as given to ATT via Comcel from you and your phone in Colombia.

Also the caller ID is not totally guaranteed to be accurate in both directions but is accurate about 90% of the time these days

[Manizales911]

Can't wait for the WU to get her the visa. Then I can save some money and Fuck her in the USA and not have to fly south. She told me last month she would be seeing me soon. I guess thats what she was talking about.Any type of visa for her to enter the USA will take 6 months to a year so don't count on seeing her in the USA any time "soon". My money says she wouldn't go to the USA even if she had the opportunity, she makes good money in Medellin, has a Colombian boyfriend, all her family is here including her child and what is she going to do in the USA work in McDonalds? There are many girls that want to go to the USA but for every one of them there are twenty that wouldn't go under any circumstances.

[Tweeners]

Am I readiing the same forum? Who is bad mouthing and criticizing who? Maybe I have some posters on block?

Besides one guy with shit colored glasses (

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=1111524&viewfull=1#post1111524

) I have not seen any bashing, badmouthing or nonsense. Just the usual banter. JMHOI don't have anyone on block and I agree with you, even went back over the posts, unless speaking of WU gringos is considered bad. I'd have no idea why, I like them! They keep the girls in nice clothes and free to enjoy their time with other amigos.

If someone sees bashing, please point it out.

[LuckyEddie]

i don't have anyone on block and i agree with you, even went back over the posts, unless speaking of wu gringos is considered bad. i'd have no idea why, i like them! they keep the girls in nice clothes and free to enjoy their time with other amigos.

if someone sees bashing, please point it out. the only negaive bashing is by the gentleman who complained:


it's considered naive to attribute feelings to the working girls. when a girl tries to reach out for something better, like a real relationship, it's disappointing to me that lots of guys, people with resources, money, education, exert themselves to try to submarine or frustrate the attempts of these girls to realize a better life. carolina is a good person, she has a good heart. bibiana in my opinion does too, though she is a different person obviously. but as the people with resources, money, education, why not give these girls a chance, a break? i wish both of them, and their significant others, much happiness! is that too naive for all you jaded hating fucks?i think maybe his meds need to be adjusted or he suffers from flashbacks or hot flashes or something. he seems pretty angry though.

[John Gault]

I don't have anyone on block and I agree with you, even went back over the posts, unless speaking of WU gringos is considered bad. I'd have no idea why, I like them! They keep the girls in nice clothes and free to enjoy their time with other amigos.

If someone sees bashing, please point it out. Not really bashing on this board, but take a walk to the Casa Blanca Medellin forum as it concerns MDE.

I think it may come to blows. LOL

[Tweeners]

Not really bashing on this board, but take a walk to the Casa Blanca Medellin forum as it concerns MDE.

I think it may come to blows. LOLThat thread much like the actual property is a cesspool, but we know that when we post there. I was under the impression that this thread was being perceived as negative when I thought it was fine.

[TweedleD]

That thread much like the actual property is a cesspool, but we know that when we post there. I was under the impression that this thread was being perceived as negative when I thought it was fine.Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGt9jAkWie4

[Vincelee76]

I agree, we and men in general should try to help these girls foreign nations.

Just look at the american women back home. They treat men like garbage. America is such a feminized society. Women are really spoiled and demanding in the states.

While women in Columbia treats men pretty darn well. Columbian women does deserve more respect than what we give them.

[Pittguy578]

Artisttyp, I own the S95 and it is a fantastic camera. The fast 2. 0 lens makes it great for indoor shots without flash (dimly lit chica bars, anyone?).

However, it is almost $400 and I would HATE if anything happened to it. The Panasonic FH20 I travel with is only $139 on Amazon, has a decent lens, and its Intelligent Auto actually knows what it is doing. Also an 8x zoom for some tricky situations.

If after all these years of travel I finally get mugged in Bogota, they will not get much from me. The camera, a 3-year-old Skagen worth $50 at time of purchase, and an old wallet with 200K cash at most. You can get the S90 for around $200 now. Essentially same camera and same fast lens. Only difference is no HD video. However, HD Video with a CCD sensor is not that much better than standard definition anyways.

[Mr Gogo]

Women don't treat me like garbage in the USA either. Keep paying those Columbians to treat you like a man. I just got back from Colombia and I'll give my report in a few days on the NON pros. I'm an American and I love my fellow american women way more than Colombians. Maybe you are fat? Maybe you are ugly? Poor? All I know is that I'm banging these hot american women and you have admitted you are not of any competition to me. Sorry for your misfortune but please don't generalize 300, 000, 000 + million people.I know just how your report will go to save everybody from reading the bullshit later.

"I've decided to go to Colombia because I need a break from all the hot American women that have been giving me pussy (my American women never argue, complain or are competitive). I land at MDE and on the tarmac are ten NON pros waiting for me with number cards with my name on it. As I'm escorted to a waiting taxi with these NON pros I can't help but feel sorry about all the hot American women I left behind. In the taxi the girls say they are tired of fat, ugly and poor Americanos, they also want a guy who won't pay them to be a man. The girls offer me money because I'm gorgeous, but being the gentleman I am I decline but let them pay the taxi. I'm rich and good looking so I fuck for free. These girls are on me like flies on shit, but I'm to pretty to fuck but I let one girl give me a handjob."

Thats your intro, look forward to the rest of your report.

[Legal Tender]

I know just how your report will go to save everybody from reading the bullshit later.

"I've decided to go to Colombia because I need a break from all the hot American women that have been giving me pussy (my American women never argue, complain or are competitive). I land at MDE and on the tarmac are ten NON pros waiting for me with number cards with my name on it. As I'm escorted to a waiting taxi with these NON pros I can't help but feel sorry about all the hot American women I left behind. In the taxi the girls say they are tired of fat, ugly and poor Americanos, they also want a guy who won't pay them to be a man. The girls offer me money because I'm gorgeous, but being the gentleman I am I decline but let them pay the taxi. I'm rich and good looking so I fuck for free. These girls are on me like flies on shit, but I'm to pretty to fuck but I let one girl give me a handjob."

Thats your intro, look forward to the rest of your report. Damn, I know exactly how you feel. I'm sure you had a number of American women sending you money via Western Union even though you are interdependently wealthy. And, you didn't mention that you are fluent in Spanish (without a hint of accent) but that is assumed. Whatever you do don't let these Piasas treat you like a sex toy. They will do that if you allow it.

Only good energy!

[Ricker]

Women don't treat me like garbage in the USA either. Keep paying those Columbians to treat you like a man. I just got back from Colombia and I'll give my report in a few days on the NON pros. I'm an American and I love my fellow american women way more than Colombians. Maybe you are fat? Maybe you are ugly? Poor? All I know is that I'm banging these hot american women and you have admitted you are not of any competition to me. Sorry for your misfortune but please don't generalize 300, 000, 000 + million people.Damn I admire you!

[SavePros321]

Damn, I know exactly how you feel. I'm sure you had a number of American women sending you money via Western Union even though you are interdependently wealthy. And, you didn't mention that you are fluent in Spanish (without a hint of accent) but that is assumed. Whatever you do don't let these Piasas treat you like a sex toy. They will do that if you allow it.

Only good energy! I think you missed the sarcasm of Mr. Gogo's post (which was a response to Runner Up). Ricker seems to get it though.

[Combo]

Runner up's post, while certainly mean-spirited, has a bit of truth to it. I don't think the 150 Million or so women in the US are substantially more or less "nice" or "good" than the women in Colombia. I've met some very decent

Women in the US.

The big thing we have going for us in Colombia is our $$$. We can buy a heck of a lot more pussy with those dollars in Colombia than we can in the US.

One think I will say Colombia (as well as Brasil, DR, etc) have going for them is that prostitution is legal. In this aspect, they are more enlightened than we are. They recognize that men want casual sex and that for some women, this is their best way to support themselves.

[LuckyEddie]

I know just how your report will go to save everybody from reading the bullshit later....Most guys with game don't feel the need to report it on a public forum. trust me, I know.

[Mr Gogo]

Most guys with game don't feel the need to report it on a public forum.Exactamente amigo.

But I actually am looking forward to Runnys trip report. But its will take him a few days to make it up.

[LuckyEddie]

The big thing we have going for us in Colombia is our $$$. We can buy a heck of a lot more pussy with those dollars in Colombia than we can in the US..The foreigner has money compared to the typical Colombian woman (non puta) , an estrato 2 or 3, single mom fending for her endlessly sick kid (s) and mom, struggling a bit to eat well and get medical care, shares a bed with her sister, ten people living in the same house, never goes out.

You get the picture.

The foreigner always knows where his next meal is coming from, can usually get another job if not satisfied with his current job, has medical insurance, nice things, a car, can afford hotel and airfare and he takes home probably more than 10X the girl, who mostly is unemployed making ZERO but if she is making anything in her shit job (anyone get girls with jobs?) it is probably minimum and she's looking at USD$50-$60 / week and puts in 60 hours. The foreigner probably is not able to meet her because she sleeps, works and cares for her kid. She is not meeting guys on websites or in Parque Lleras.

The foreigner is in Colombia, on vacation, relaxed, not working, has money to spend and generally:

1.) buys this poor jobless girl and maybe her kid thoughtful gifts,

2.) takes her out, pays for movies, dinner, drinks, everything,

3.) hands over money. CASH MONEY!

In the US, find a girl who makes $50 a week, living in crappy conditions, buy her everything and hand her Cash. You will get laid I guarantee it. Also you will be the king there too even if you are a spineless sniveling pile of crap. Just like in Colombia.

Or

Get a job that pays 10x more than the average US woman. USD$500, 000, nice car, super penthouse, nice area in town, expensive restuarants, buy her vacations and spend on her relatively the same amt as you spend on the Colombiana, hang in affluent areas, work out a few days a week etc. Your confidence, game and everything else will skyrocket. Trust me.

You think the model girlfriend of the $500K high powered executive swallows, fuks his brains out, has no attitude and treats him like gold?

If not, he's on to the next one. Guaranteeeeeed, just like Colombia

[Ricker]

The foreigner has money compared to the typical Colombian woman (non puta) , an estrato 2 or 3, single mom fending for her endlessly sick kid (s) and mom, struggling a bit to eat well and get medical care, shares a bed with her sister, ten people living in the same house, never goes out.

You get the picture.

The foreigner always knows where his next meal is coming from, can usually get another job if not satisfied with his current job, has medical insurance, nice things, a car, can afford hotel and airfare and he takes home probably more than 10X the girl, who mostly is unemployed making ZERO but if she is making anything in her shit job (anyone get girls with jobs?) it is probably minimum and she's looking at USD$50-$60 / week and puts in 60 hours. The foreigner probably is not able to meet her because she sleeps, works and cares for her kid. She is not meeting guys on websites or in Parque Lleras.

The foreigner is in Colombia, on vacation, relaxed, not working, has money to spend and generally:

1.) buys this poor jobless girl and maybe her kid thoughtful gifts,

2.) takes her out, pays for movies, dinner, drinks, everything,

3.) hands over money. CASH MONEY!

In the US, find a girl who makes $50 a week, living in crappy conditions, buy her everything and hand her Cash. You will get laid I guarantee it. Also you will be the king there too even if you are a spineless sniveling pile of crap. Just like in Colombia.

Or

Get a job that pays 10x more than the average US woman. USD$500, 000, nice car, super penthouse, nice area in town, expensive restuarants, buy her vacations and spend on her relatively the same amt as you spend on the Colombiana, hang in affluent areas, work out a few days a week etc. Your confidence, game and everything else will skyrocket. Trust me.

You think the model girlfriend of the $500K high powered executive swallows, fuks his brains out, has no attitude and treats him like gold?

If not, he's on to the next one. Guaranteeeeeed, just like Colombia

I like this post ... great analogy.
Now if I only get that $500K a yr job I applied for :)

[Combo]

You said that better than I could Lucky. Hopefully our Central Bank doesn't continue printing endless USDollars and

Devaluing our currency or in 10 or 20 years, the South Americans will be coming to the US for cheap pussy.

[John Gault]

You said that better than I could Lucky. Hopefully our Central Bank doesn't continue printing endless USDollars and

Devaluing our currency or in 10 or 20 years, the South Americans will be coming to the US for cheap pussy. The only point I differ on is that 10 or 20 years is being very hopeful. The die is cast boys, lets enjoy it while we can. I know I am.

[SlamCity7777]

The foreigner has money compared to the typical Colombian woman (non puta) , an estrato 2 or 3, single mom fending for her endlessly sick kid (s) and mom, struggling a bit to eat well and get medical care, shares a bed with her sister, ten people living in the same house, never goes out.

You get the picture.

The foreigner always knows where his next meal is coming from, can usually get another job if not satisfied with his current job, has medical insurance, nice things, a car, can afford hotel and airfare and he takes home probably more than 10X the girl, who mostly is unemployed making ZERO but if she is making anything in her shit job (anyone get girls with jobs?) it is probably minimum and she's looking at USD$50-$60 / week and puts in 60 hours. The foreigner probably is not able to meet her because she sleeps, works and cares for her kid. She is not meeting guys on websites or in Parque Lleras.

The foreigner is in Colombia, on vacation, relaxed, not working, has money to spend and generally:

1.) buys this poor jobless girl and maybe her kid thoughtful gifts,

2.) takes her out, pays for movies, dinner, drinks, everything,

3.) hands over money. CASH MONEY!

In the US, find a girl who makes $50 a week, living in crappy conditions, buy her everything and hand her Cash. You will get laid I guarantee it. Also you will be the king there too even if you are a spineless sniveling pile of crap. Just like in Colombia.

Or

Get a job that pays 10x more than the average US woman. USD$500, 000, nice car, super penthouse, nice area in town, expensive restuarants, buy her vacations and spend on her relatively the same amt as you spend on the Colombiana, hang in affluent areas, work out a few days a week etc. Your confidence, game and everything else will skyrocket. Trust me.

You think the model girlfriend of the $500K high powered executive swallows, fuks his brains out, has no attitude and treats him like gold?

If not, he's on to the next one. Guaranteeeeeed, just like ColombiaThis has to be one of the best posts I've ever seen on this board!

IMO you can do this plan in the US for $100K plus $500 is like for Wannabe Actresses and Vegas Level Stripper Girlfriends. If you make $100K+ you can or should be pulling about 95% of the women in the us. IMO most girls with what we would call good jobs in the US are making. $40-$65K so if you're making $100+ you can take her to Mexico for a 3 day weekend and these "Super-Hot-Dimes" USA version will hump the shit out of you; or you can go to Brazil, Argentina, Costa Rica, Panama, take a girl of equal "Super-Hot-Sexy" quality just lacking in English skills and buy her a soda, pizza, and take her to a movie and get the same result, oh and the soda, pizza, and movie cost about a third of what it does back in your respective country.

[Legal Tender]

I think you missed the sarcasm of Mr. Gogo's post (which was a response to Runner Up). Ricker seems to get it though.Oh, my bad. But, I really do mean what I wrote about not letting the Piasa chicas using the Yankees as sex toys. In fact just a few months ago I went into this place they called a "casa" in el centro. I think they call it the New Life. Unlike Mr. Gogo, my spanish is not so good. There were 10 or 12 lovely young girls and I'm sure they understood my offer that if they would make love to me for free that I would pay for the room. I was lead to one of the rooms, and without much persuasion this beauty took off her clothes and had her way with me. On the way out, I just stopped at the cashier and paid the COP equivalent of $20, for the room, of course, so there must have been a "meeting of the minds."

Sure, I felt a little cheap about being so easy, but the more I though about it, I think we really made a connection. You would never guess it, but I've never been so lucky with women in the good old USA of A. Any advice on getting my girl to our own little love nest in Aramarica. . . .

Mr. Gogo, no, I really meant the guy that I really admire,"Runner Up", please tell me how you do what you do. I'm trying to learn, and I am feeling really good about my progress, but always looking for pointers to be more "cool." I could write about Susie, my co-worker at Walmart that actually touched my penis while we were stocking Hello, Kitty dolls in the merchandise room. She said she was sorry, that it was an accident, but I didn't believe her. But, that's for a different forum. Sorry, I digress.

Oh, by the way, what is sarcasm?

Only good energy

[John Gault]

Oh, my bad. But, I really do mean what I wrote about not letting the Piasa chicas using the Yankees as sex toys. In fact just a few months ago I went into this place they called a "casa" in el centro. I think they call it the New Life. Unlike Mr. Gogo, my spanish is not so good. There were 10 or 12 lovely young girls and I'm sure they understood my offer that if they would make love to me for free that I would pay for the room. I was lead to one of the rooms, and without much persuasion this beauty took off her clothes and had her way with me. On the way out, I just stopped at the cashier and paid the COP equivalent of $20, for the room, of course, so there must have been a "meeting of the minds."

Sure, I felt a little cheap about being so easy, but the more I though about it, I think we really made a connection. You would never guess it, but I've never been so lucky with women in the good old USA of A. Any advice on getting my girl to our own little love nest in Aramarica. . . .

Mr. Gogo, no, I really meant the guy that I really admire,"Runner Up", please tell me how you do what you do. I'm trying to learn, and I am feeling really good about my progress, but always looking for pointers to be more "cool." I could write about Susie, my co-worker at Walmart that actually touched my penis while we were stocking Hello, Kitty dolls in the merchandise room. She said she was sorry, that it was an accident, but I didn't believe her. But, that's for a different forum. Sorry, I digress.

Oh, by the way, what is sarcasm?

Only good energyVery funny and I hope when you are back in Walmart Susie gives you a BJ. I think a BBBJ at this point is a little premature.

[Furysys]

Mr. Lucky Eddie, in very politically incorrect terms, you have described exactly the situation. Other than hoping I am not a snivelling pile of shit. That exactly describes the girl I have been with for about three years off and on. Earns about 700k pesos a month, works 50 hrs a wk, has (only 1) kid, thank God, and has a little space in her place, she has her own room in Bello, and yes, I do that for her, she stays with me in Poblado when she can stay over, gets taken to LLeras, the whole bit, and I get laid silly by her. Of course, during the day, she is working like hell, I can run off to el Centro. She doesn't have time for anything else, basically works, sleeps, eats, takes care of the kid, and maybe a little walk on the cyclovia on Sundays, that's it. Where I live in Western Canada, the women don't need men, they make plenty enough on their own, the only reason for a guy is to spend a few months with him, then rip off everything she can.

[Mackin]

Excellent observations. You get an A for todays lesson.

[Napalm]

All I can add to the WU thread is at least he's not sending money to a fugly chica!

Oh and I received my Rentista visa today so in light of my imminent flight from confinement here in sex prison I would like to make Bibiana's WU bf an offer:

For a small fee I will thoroughly investigate whether or not the subject in question is indeed on the straight and narrow. If I am successful in playing hide the weiner in exchange for pesos then you may feel free to thank me for services rendered. I promise if she has fallen off the wagon I will derive no pleasure in poking her. I am a professional and making whoopie with her will be just another job for me.

[Cubanut]

Medellin is getting a reputation for bozo gringos coming in and taking prepagos to dinners, movies and shopping. Colombians are very nosey and don't miss anything. PLease leave you prepagos in the casas or the streets where you meet them.Runner Up,

Those same nosey Colombians have absolutely no idea that the girls you were with were non-pros. For all they know, those girls are Prepagos as well. Didn't you take your girls to dinner, movies and shopping? And from the sound of your report, you treat most of them like Prepagos anyway."Luv them & Dump them". So what if you don't actually hand them money. You paid for everything else after all.

BTW:

I wrote a while back of a young fella that had infiltrated the local scene and was doing great until he fucked his so called best friends sister. The brother and his buddies beat the crap out of him. He has never returned to Medellin.

Just saying that it seems like bad Karma could come about the way you play these so called "Non-Pros".

I wish you the best and hope you never "F*ck with the wrong Colombiana".

Cheers,

Cubanut.

144816

[HelpRules]

Why is this guy fucking his friends sister. That is wrong in any country. You will get your ass kicked in alot of american cities for doing that. Its a unwritten rule that you don't bang your friends sister.

[Mr Gogo]

Pretty good report there Runner. You do have a little game after all. Kudos.

[Napalm]

Holy shnikes I completely missed that post. I personally try not to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) anybody off while I'm in Colombia, chicas included. If he keeps that up sooner or later it WILL catch up to him and then, Pobrecito!

My personal goal is not to even bother with non pros on my next trip down. For me I'd rather throw some pesos down and get what I want without playing games and chasing after it. Also I don't want to make enemies of non pros (or their friends and family) , since I WILL get tired of them sooner rather than later. Why waste their time or mine? Not to mention the hard feelings. If a girl is up for NSA that's one thing. But I will never lead a girl on down there.


Runner Up,

Those same nosey Colombians have absolutely no idea that the girls you were with were non-pros. For all they know, those girls are Prepagos as well. Didn't you take your girls to dinner, movies and shopping? And from the sound of your report, you treat most of them like Prepagos anyway."Luv them & Dump them". So what if you don't actually hand them money. You paid for everything else after all.

BTW:

I wrote a while back of a young fella that had infiltrated the local scene and was doing great until he fucked his so called best friends sister. The brother and his buddies beat the crap out of him. He has never returned to Medellin.

Just saying that it seems like bad Karma could come about the way you play these so called "Non-Pros".

I wish you the best and hope you never "F*ck with the wrong Colombiana".

Cheers,

Cubanut.

144816

[Mr Gogo]

Runner Up,

Those same nosey Colombians have absolutely no idea that the girls you were with were non-pros. For all they know, those girls are Prepagos as well. Didn't you take your girls to dinner, movies and shopping? And from the sound of your report, you treat most of them like Prepagos anyway."Luv them & Dump them". So what if you don't actually hand them money. You paid for everything else after all.

BTW:

I wrote a while back of a young fella that had infiltrated the local scene and was doing great until he fucked his so called best friends sister. The brother and his buddies beat the crap out of him. He has never returned to Medellin.

Just saying that it seems like bad Karma could come about the way you play these so called "Non-Pros".

I wish you the best and hope you never "F*ck with the wrong Colombiana".

Cheers,

Cubanut.

144816Great photo, and she looks pissed. I guess she didn't want to pay her taxi LOL. I really liked Runners report. A couple things I want to comment on."Nosey Colombians"? Runner I only found Colombians nosey is when we step into their lives. Otherwise Colombians will walk by you without even missing a step. Also be careful with the "meet the family" shit, especially if your intentions arent honorable. You can fall to "that no good mf" quick and the family won't be to sad if something happens to you.

[Ricker]

... Never saw her again but every day we made plans for the next day and I just never followed through. She probably hates me now and in hind site she was probably the best girl I met the entire trip. Enemy #1.

... Met another girl. I never called her a gain. Enemy #2.

... She left thinking I would call her the next day. Never called her but took a couple of calls from her. Enemy#3.

... Well the main 20 year old kept me happy all week. This girl was good but I left the country again without saying by to her like a big a hole.

... Enemy #4.

... Medellin is getting a reputation for bozo gringos coming in and taking prepagos to dinners, movies and shopping. Colombians are very nosey and don't miss anything. PLease leave you prepagos in the casas or the streets where you meet them.

Enjoyed reading your report, though I'm glad I don't have your Karma.
I just don't have the heart to romance, build-up expectations, and dump decent girls with no explanation, at least not anymore.

I've done it, I'm no saint for sure.
If you can speak spanish and you've got even a small amount of charm in you, and you're not afraid to approach girls, you can easily get dates with non-pros and with a little more charm, get them to fall for ya a bit and put out.
The bad I personally felt from it afterwards, however, was not worth the little bit of fun I got from it.

I still like to mix it up with non-pros, but I'm a bit more honest with them these days, especially with the truly decent girls.

By the way, I think Medellin may be getting a reputation for another type of gringo too, besides what you mentioned.
As you say, Colombians are very nosey and don't miss anything.

Good luck ...

[LuckyEddie]

Holy shnikes I completely missed that post...It seems that posts are being inserted not based on the website's time but maybe the time of the poster? I missed a bunch of posts that snuck in behind posts I had already read. Go figure.

[Mr Gogo]

It seems that posts are being inserted not based on the website's time but maybe the time of the poster? I missed a bunch of posts that snuck in behind posts I had already read. Go figure.From what I understand most replies post asap. But you can get flagged very easily here (I'm one) and your posts are under moderators review before they post. It could be a simple sentence stucture error or if you have a reputation as a trouble maker, or someone else can complain about you. I was flagger because of my writing style but was told when I do 25 perfect posts I will be off probation. Its important to always look back for old posts especially if the forum moves fast.

Its funny because on facebook (which is 100 times bigger than ISG) you arent required to have perfect gramar. But on a sex forum you better cross your Ts and dot your Is.

[Napalm]

It seems that posts are being inserted not based on the website's time but maybe the time of the poster? I missed a bunch of posts that snuck in behind posts I had already read. Go figure.

That does seem to be the case. Hopefully it's only a temporary glitch.

[Lima Busy]

Why is this guy fucking his friends sister. That is wrong in any country. You will get your ass kicked in alot of american cities for doing that. Its a unwritten rule that you don't bang your friends sister.When I was in the States I was "doing" my best friends twin sister, who was married to my second best friend!

That was 35 years ago (she's 3x divorced) and we are all still great friends!

[You Can]

I never heard of any unwritten rule that you don't bang your friends sister? If she is of age and wants to fuck who cares if she is my friends sister. I don't see a problem.


Why is this guy fucking his friends sister. That is wrong in any country. You will get your ass kicked in alot of american cities for doing that. Its a unwritten rule that you don't bang your friends sister.

[Ricker]

I never say goodbye and never stay more than a few days in the same hotel. Those two actions are meant to protect me from bad karma.

Medellin is not all that. Most girls have small boobs and they always have that big hole from some vaccine on their arm. I hate that hole! One time I met the most beautiful girl ever and she had a birthmark on her ass! This last trip I met a girl that had 5 or 6 long black hairs on her neck!

Anyway I'm going to take my party somewhere else. Well, good luck in your search for perfection and from protecting yourself from the bad Karma :)

Just a little secret though, you're not going to find perfection anywhere you take 'your party', and the Colombian beauty is pretty hard to beat actually.

Happy travels.

[You Can]

You must be kidding? I guess your perfect? Bud, you need to grow up!


I never say goodbye and never stay more than a few days in the same hotel. Those two actions are meant to protect me from bad karma. Imagine saying bye to 5 girls at the airport, imagine 2 or 3 girls showing up at the same hotel during the night. Phone is also always off when I'm with a girl.

Medellin is not all that. Most girls have small boobs and they always have that big hole from some vaccine on their arm. I hate that hole! One time I met the most beautiful girl ever and she had a birthmark on her ass! This last trip I met a girl that had 5 or 6 long black hairs on her neck!

Anyway I'm going to take my party somewhere else.

[Artisttyp]

I never say goodbye and never stay more than a few days in the same hotel. Those two actions are meant to protect me from bad karma.

They always have that big hole from some vaccine on their arm. I hate that hole! I can relate to the hotel comment. I like to find a home and stick with it. However once the cat is out of the bag I feel uncomfortable about the staff knowing my game. It *could lead to repercussions.

There is one woman at the hotel desk (where I stay) that doesn't like me and she lets me know it. I am still courteous to her but it is still uncomfortable. I am a pig and I know it but I'd prefer to be low key.

CHOPPED MEAT. You find that in almost any affordable pfp venue! My advice is to get into it. When I look in the mirror these days I would have a hard time sleeping with me for $17. My waist size has grown considerably and compared to a few years ago and I am starting to develop ***** tits. If anything somewhat attractive wants to sleep with I consider myself lucky. Throw all the cottage cheese MILF's my way.

[Furysys]

My my my, we do have an inflated opinion of ourselves, don't we? That would be a problem, eh. 5 gorgeous paisas fighting it out to say goodbye to you at the airport? And worrying about making all these enemies?

I'll tell ya, the average paisa girl probably has an attention span with a gringo of about 25 minutes. If you don't phone back, she'll go on to the next and sure as hell won't worry about you. And they are all pros, ESPECIALLY the 'nonpros'!

[Legal Tender]

My hunch proved correct. Our brother Runner Up is a troll: One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument. So he must be bored, too. He uses his time and Jackson's hard drive space to suggest a disrespectful and mean spirited interaction with Colombian girls is productive or should be approved. I don't believe anyone is that stupid. Not only is it bad karma, it's simply unproductive in life. I spent a few minutes reviewing his prior posts (excluding the ones, by definition, that were previously deleted by Jackson as per policy) and the thrust of his writings universally fall within the definition of trolling.

Now my "boring" episode has lead Runner Up to his goal. Some attention. Let's hope he fulfills his promise and moves on to other venues than Colombia, and, it follows, from this forum. These made up stories where the theme is that irresistibility allows cruelness is of no value.

Only good energy (with a special dose for RU)


I never say goodbye and never stay more than a few days in the same hotel. Those two actions are meant to protect me from bad karma. Imagine saying bye to 5 girls at the airport, imagine 2 or 3 girls showing up at the same hotel during the night. Phone is also always off when I'm with a girl.

Medellin is not all that. Most girls have small boobs and they always have that big hole from some vaccine on their arm. I hate that hole! One time I met the most beautiful girl ever and she had a birthmark on her ass! This last trip I met a girl that had 5 or 6 long black hairs on her neck!

Anyway I'm going to take my party somewhere else.

[Mr Gogo]

My hunch proved correct. Our brother Runner Up is a troll: One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument. So he must be bored, too. He uses his time and Jackson's hard drive space to suggest a disrespectful and mean spirited interaction with Colombian girls is productive or should be approved. I don't believe anyone is that stupid. Not only is it bad karma, it's simply unproductive in life. I spent a few minutes reviewing his prior posts (excluding the ones, by definition, that were previously deleted by Jackson as per policy) and the thrust of his writings universally fall within the definition of trolling.

Now my "boring" episode has lead Runner Up to his goal. Some attention. Let's hope he fulfills his promise and moves on to other venues than Colombia, and, it follows, from this forum. These made up stories where the theme is that irresistibility allows cruelness is of no value.

Only good energy (with a special dose for RU)You would figure that on a sex board that everyone could agree to hunt pussy with respect to other individuals and fair pricing structure. But here you have some arrogant, conceited, and selfish dudes who are only about exploiting a good thing for self gratification. Take, take and take. One dude wanted to talk a girl down from 20usd for a quickie. Then he pays 20usd for a hamburger and fries. This same guy complains all the time about guys overpaying and fucking up the game.

Alot of these guys get shitted on by women in America and then want to go to a third world country and be a major player because you can talk a girl down five dollars. What the fuck is 5usd?

Ricker your preaching to the choir but they don't hear you. Karma is a mother fucker. But every dog has his day.

[Justafool]

That hole you mentioned, is that the divot most Americans (older) have from mandatory vaccinations? Curious as to when you were born and where you grew up should you not have that divot? Now a many woman and little girls are being vaccinated to defend against some form of cancer. I think it is cervical. Maybe you should look at that 'hole' as a good think better then the cancer from many of the druggies in other parts.

Mole on her ass that is what makes the 'most beautiful girl ever' ugly?

Long black hairs, you did not spend much time in the hole just on the neck. You could not offer her a tweezer or pay for some electrolysis? After all how much could 5 long black hairs cost to remove?

Yes, small tits but I hate more the enhanced so please to not complain about small, there are already too many who get stuffed with silicon.

I do not say most of the Colombians are great looking but there are enough too make it worth my visits. I get much more (quality and features for a lot less) than in the states. If they are not good enough for your dabbles move on. There are plenty more locations to enjoy.

On this last trip I picked up one who claims to be 18, ohaja; she was great. The only negative was that I could not fit more time into my schedule for her. With the children and the jealousy of the ex-wife (taking away, again, the rights she gives me with my children) I could not fit her in too much but I will see her again on the next trip. Great slim and tight body (event after having her 18 month son) , just as I enjoy. She does have small tits that we probably enhanced by her pregnancy.

The other on this last trip I met at a casa near Parque Bolivar. The one a flight up from a gym. She is chunky bit not a pig and I was instantly taken by her face, so sweet. Not my usual type but fine by I made my choice and it turned out to be the right one! She did not BB everything but did a little extra for a little more. She, is one I will spend a lot more time with on my next visit (if I can find the card I put her.

Neither are enhanced medically and both provided happiness. Both seemed to enjoy my company and even after I explained my marriage created vow of partial poverty and provided me with phone numbers before we separated.

And then there is my ex-wife, the most beautiful ever. Hey was that the beauty mark on her ass you were disgusted with?

No where you will find perfection but I have found close to it several times in Medellin.


I never say goodbye and never stay more than a few days in the same hotel. Those two actions are meant to protect me from bad karma. Imagine saying bye to 5 girls at the airport, imagine 2 or 3 girls showing up at the same hotel during the night. Phone is also always off when I'm with a girl.

Medellin is not all that. Most girls have small boobs and they always have that big hole from some vaccine on their arm. I hate that hole! One time I met the most beautiful girl ever and she had a birthmark on her ass! This last trip I met a girl that had 5 or 6 long black hairs on her neck!

Anyway I'm going to take my party somewhere else.

[Justafool]

How much room would you have to stike up a conversation. Anyway, I think I and others have put too much into his 1 cent.


Lat item, although minor, I was surprised to read Runny flew in the back of the plane. A previous post Runny had said how he's worth "millions". It's so "nice" to see a millionaire slumming and flying coach. (a true man of the people)

Reef.

[Legal Tender]

. Karma is a mother fucker. .Truer words were never written. Karma IS a mother fucker. I recall that recently there was a discussion of the advisability of sending some lovely Piasa a few COP's via Western Union on a regular basis. Now, that might be a decision that enhances one's karma. The Buddha wrote, in substance, that if a person knew the joy that he felt in giving they would never have another meal without sharing it. The WU discussion seemed to focus on the fact or assumption that those who have shared their bodies for money would continue that practice. Frankly, I wonder the relevance. One thing for sure, if your benefactor is fucking you, she isn't fucking another dude at THAT time.

By analogy, I was in Times Square during the summer with an American woman. A homeless dude came up and gave me the usual: "I haven't eaten in 2 days, can you give me some money to eat?" I discretely slipped him 5 or 10 bucks, and off he went. My companion looked at me with disgust and disapprovingly said that he would just go buy alcohol or drugs. My reply was what he did with the money that I gave him was not my problem. It wasn't my concern.

Hey, being a "sponsor" furnishing what you can, but always WHEN you say you will do it, can give you some good mother fucking karma. Besides soon you know whether she is using the money for helping with her family or something that improves he future or just spending like a self indulgent and narcissistic western female. Chances are you will hear that her child got a new. . . . Or is now going to a better school. . . .

Finally, there is nothing better than "thank you" "you make a difference in my life" sex. First thing you know, she is bringing her cousin or some other hot young girl to bring you pleasure, too. Now, that's mother fucking karma.

This sponsorship idea is fairly well established in Eastern Europe. I don't remember that idea being discussed here. I wonder how many respondents would show up in response to an offer in a media that would reach the university community? Any thoughts?

[Mr Gogo]

Truer words were never written. Karma IS a mother fucker. I recall that recently there was a discussion of the advisability of sending some lovely Piasa a few COP's via Western Union on a regular basis. Now, that might be a decision that enhances one's karma. The Buddha wrote, in substance, that if a person knew the joy that he felt in giving they would never have another meal without sharing it. The WU discussion seemed to focus on the fact or assumption that those who have shared their bodies for money would continue that practice. Frankly, I wonder the relevance. One thing for sure, if your benefactor is fucking you, she isn't fucking another dude at THAT time.

By analogy, I was in Times Square during the summer with an American woman. A homeless dude came up and gave me the usual: "I haven't eaten in 2 days, can you give me some money to eat?" I discretely slipped him 5 or 10 bucks, and off he went. My companion looked at me with disgust and disapprovingly said that he would just go buy alcohol or drugs. My reply was what he did with the money that I gave him was not my problem. It wasn't my concern.

Hey, being a "sponsor" furnishing what you can, but always WHEN you say you will do it, can give you some good mother fucking karma. Besides soon you know whether she is using the money for helping with her family or something that improves he future or just spending like a self indulgent and narcissistic western female. Chances are you will hear that her child got a new. Or is now going to a better school.

Finally, there is nothing better than "thank you" "you make a difference in my life" sex. First thing you know, she is bringing her cousin or some other hot young girl to bring you pleasure, too. Now, that's mother fucking karma.

This sponsorship idea is fairly well established in Eastern Europe. I don't remember that idea being discussed here. I wonder how many respondents would show up in response to an offer in a media that would reach the university community? Any thoughts? Hold up brother I think you have it a little twisted. But first were not going to turn this into"The karma" board. If you give a homeless guy money to go buy liquor, thats not establishing good Karma. Maybe offer to buy him something to eat from Mcdonalds would be better because you know your good deed went to something positive.

Also how is "sponsoring" a chic who fucks guys when your not there good Karma? Save that money for when you are there and spend it on her when she fucks you. Is sending WU money that her boyfriend spends on drugs good Karma for anyone?

Also treating her nice in the hopes that you can bang her cousin is not good Karma. Good Karma would be to not fuck her cousin because you respect her.

[Joe Six Pack]

Hello, all; There is a Party at Hotel VIP on Friday January 21, 2011.

Where: Calle 5 No. 43 the 26 Patio Bonito, Medellin, Colombia near to Parque lleras.

What time: At 8:00 PM on Friday Jan 21st 2011.

Entry fee is $20, 000 peso or $10.

Call harry [Telephone Number deleted by Admin] for more info

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[Zig Monger]

By the way, I think Medellin may be getting a reputation for another type of gringo too, besides what you mentioned.

As you say, Colombians are very nosey and don't miss anything.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Yo ricker, Ziggy here. Just wondering what other type of reputation we may be getting? I have heard things recently, too, and wondering if you have heard the same things?

You have ment me before, I walk with 2 artificial legs, just so you can remember me my friend, but I am concerned about what this other reputation is? The reason that I am asking is that I was told that I talked inapproapriatly to chicas on facebook. Heard anything about this. Supposedly there are crusaders who live there who are about to cause some problems. Only because they are upset with the sheer number of gringos who are stomping on their playground!

[TweedleD]

So basically you're saying.

I'm scared of American women with blue or green eyes and tall with a job and would rather pay you to make me feel like I made a difference in the world with a few crappy gifts! Great! What a life! Can't wait until I'm old and retarded to be like you! Everybody"s entitled to an opinion

[TweedleD]

I know that if I was banging prepagos I could pal up with you guys and talk some english on my trips. I know I could sit in bars and casas and drink and then pick up a girl and bang her. I know I could fratinize and feel like I have some friends on this board.

BUT HERE IS THE PROBLEM.

I know from my perfect spanish that these girls aren't the same as the ones I'm hangin with. They are any of these combinations. Poor, dumb, adicted to drugs or lazy. The thought of me rolling around with a girl that sleeps with countless men / day is liken to me sticking my penis in a clogged up urinal. It would be torture for me, to roll around in a bed in a casa with spooge on the wall, burgars on the wall, and cooties everywhere is not a good vacation to me.

Sorry, just the way I feel. I thoroughly check out my ladies before acting. As previously mentioned if a girl likes me she likes me enough to go to el centro and get the 1 hour all std check! I still where a condom though.

I just hope when I get Old (never fat or sloppy and drunk) I don't think "ALL THE GIRLS ARE PREPAGOS", that would be sad, sad, sad.

Most women want to be loved and marry and love their kids!

You can put me down all you want but the real problem with gringos are the sex tourists. Look at the jaded countries like brazil, Costa rica and DR. I put lots of smiles on the faces of everyone I encounter when out of the USA.

This isn't a fight, it is fact. Why are you posting on a prostitution board?

[SavePros321]

Why are you posting on a prostitution board?If you've ever had stray dogs or cats hanging around your place you know not to feed them because everytime you open your front door there they are expecting to be fed again.

It's the same thing with trolls. Don't feed the trolls. Else they won't go away.

[You Can]

I agree, let not go crazyy with all this Karma talk, but fukit I will add this to the conversation and this is no bullshit. Whenever I get a bum asking me for a few bucks, I always ask them what there going to do with it? For the most part they always say buy something to eat or something else they think I want to hear! Then I say no, thats no good why don't you go buy some liquor or drugs and you will feel alot better and they don't know what to say, they actually look puzzled. But I am serious, so I give them a 10 dollar bill and tell them to go get fucked up! There usually happy now and I am to because I know I just helped a guy out that wanted a few drinks or to suck on the glass dick! God bless the soul.


Hold up brother I think you have it a little twisted. But first were not going to turn this into"The karma" board. If you give a homeless guy money to go buy liquor, thats not establishing good Karma. Maybe offer to buy him something to eat from Mcdonalds would be better because you know your good deed went to something positive.

Also how is "sponsoring" a chic who fucks guys when your not there good Karma? Save that money for when you are there and spend it on her when she fucks you. Is sending WU money that her boyfriend spends on drugs good Karma for anyone?

Also treating her nice in the hopes that you can bang her cousin is not good Karma. Good Karma would be to not fuck her cousin because you respect her.

[LuckyEddie]

Whenever I get a bum asking me for a few bucks, I always ask them what there going to do with it? For the most part they always say buy something to eat or something else they think I want to hear! Then I say no, thats no good why don't you go buy some liquor or drugs and you will feel alot better and they don't know what to say, they actually look puzzled. But I am serious, so I give them a 10 dollar bill and tell them to go get fucked up! There usually happy now and I am to because I know I just helped a guy out that wanted a few drinks or to suck on the glass dick! God bless the soul.A beggar asks a man in car at a traffic light for some money to eat.

The man says, 'If I give you the money, you will just use it to buy booze'

The beggar says, 'No, I don't drink'.

The man asks, 'Then you will just gamble it away'

The beggar says 'No, I don't gamble'.

"Well you'll just spend the money on a hooker in the red light district instead of food" barked the man.

"No I don't believe in paying for sex" replied the beggar.

Then the man asks, 'Then will you get in the car and come home with me so my wife can see what happens to a man who doesn't drink, gamble and sleep with hookers? '

[John Gault]

I agree, let not go crazyy with all this Karma talk, but fukit I will add this to the conversation and this is no bullshit. Whenever I get a bum asking me for a few bucks, I always ask them what there going to do with it? For the most part they always say buy something to eat or something else they think I want to hear! Then I say no, thats no good why don't you go buy some liquor or drugs and you will feel alot better and they don't know what to say, they actually look puzzled. But I am serious, so I give them a 10 dollar bill and tell them to go get fucked up! There usually happy now and I am to because I know I just helped a guy out that wanted a few drinks or to suck on the glass dick! God bless the soul.I like that. Tell them to get high not go eat.

One time when I lived in a rough area I walked out of my house and a guy asked me for money to go eat. At that time we had just finished a real good dinner and had a lot of good leftovers. I tell the guy wait a minute and I will help you out. I go in my house and make a great sandwich with crisp Italian bread and I then go outside and hand it to him. He looked like I had just given him a sack of monkeys.

[LuckyEddie]

Jeeze, this guy has never spoken to anyone on a plane one seat in front of him! What a loner!

I'm done with you people. JajajaWhy do you and so many mongers feel the need to prove that they are not really mongers or have graduated to suddenly being real men who don't pay for sex anymore?

Never in his life has Donald Trump bragged about having money.

Brad Pitt never had to tell his friends "I'm a ladies' man with game, chicks dig me"

Lady Diana never said "I have class" or "I am affluent"

Einstein never told anyone,"I'm a smart feller"

These people don't have to say it, in fact they don't even think about. They just ARE.

People who DO brag about how great they are really aren't. Because greatness, class, being a real man etc, is understood, no need to brag about it to a bunch of internet strangers.

The braggart at one point in his life has come to realize just what he lacks and was not born with and thus becomes resentful and also lacks to ability to be happy with himself. The common and classic traits are bragging as a way to fill in what is missing and treating others with little or no respect, especially women as that is who he blames for his shortcomings. Our friend has already demonstrated that tenfold.

Inferiority complex? Low self esteem? A need for approval? Yes, yes, and probably yes.

Runnies, is my approval really that valuable to you? I am so flattered. I pat you on the head and hang your drawing on the fridge, whatta good boy!

Does it bother you that you had to weasel your way into the club instead of being born a great ladies man? Are you really a member or are you faking it a little?

Obviously you are leaving us as why would such a great man need to part of the monger community?


I'm tired of trying to educate you people. Final post to follow. About educating youI for one could all use some education to get to your level, oh swami, can you write a book perhaps?

[LuckyEddie]

Most of my girls don't want to go to lleras because they think people will think she is a prepago because I'm white and blue.Runny as much fun as I had with my last post (bronchitis almost all the way gone) in all seriousness I have had two occasions where the girl did not want to go to Lleras.

There are 3 main reasons not including the estrato 2 girl who has been there and feels out of place because of who she is and how she dresses; of course an afluent foreigner like yourself who speaks perfect spanish would never be able to tolerate the gutter talk of a barrio girl so I exclude that:

1.) she is protecting her rep with someone other than you. Ie: other men she does not want to be seen by and have to confront at a later time. Uncomfortable for her.

2.) she is protecting her rep with you. She is known gringo trash and does not want you to find out. Use your imagination. Uncomfortable for her.

3.) she is embarrsased to be seen with you because you are not her type, much older or she is way out of your league. Nuff said.

All 3 are bad my friend. Good looking, young, blond hair blue eyes, speak perfect Spanish? What decent girl would not want to parade around with you in the Beverly Hills of Medellin?

[Ricker]

Please my friend, I hate the your mistake.

Thanks
Hahah I just had sishi with her Friday nightDitto my friend, I hate the 'sishi' mistake :)

[Ricker]

... She probably hates me now and in hind site she was probably the best girl I met the entire trip. Enemy #1.

... I never called her a gain. Enemy #2.

... Never called her but took a couple of calls from her. Enemy#3.

... I just got a nasty email from her today telling me that she is different and can't be treated like this and never to call her again. Enemy #4. Now I have to admit, all that hating and enemy making is pretty admirable stuff. :)


... I put lots of smiles on the faces of everyone I encounter when out of the USA ...You mean right up until they hate ya and become another 'enemy' as you put it, right?

BTW, you're not self-absorbed or anything are ya?

[LuckyEddie]

Here is my situation. I come here for valuable travel advice and normally get it.
Enough said and I promise I'll be nicer from here on out because I do plan on traveling a lot this year and need the information. ByeThat's funny. I can't find any posts where you asked for "travel advice". If you are not posting here and only reading than you don't have to "be nicer from here on out ". The phrase "fulla shit" comes to mind.

Here is my situation: I come here for valuable horse racing advice and for home improvement tips and normally get it.


My experiences are with non pros. A lot of times I get people challenging the truth of my posts because a lot of you people here think all women are prepagos when in reality it is about. 0001 of the population! .Although you are on the right track, that not all women are pros, your figure is pretty exaggerated. Be that as it may let me inform you that women who do not sell themselves and have some semblance of dignity, class and self respect would not be caught dead with a foreigner who is just passing through. Even the foreigner passing through every 3 months (on bizness no doubt you international executive you!).

Sorry to break the news but therein lies the catch 22. Spelling it out: If the girl is quality and not prepago and she is with you (travelling through every coupla months) immediately her high level of worth goes right down the toilet. Also women with self respect are not jumping into bed on one or two dates with the travelling saleman from Skokie.

Most under 30, single no children estrato 3 or 4 women who are not prepagos who have regular office jobs and half their shit together aren't really into the weekend romance with foreigners. You, like myself, being in touch with women all over the globe should know that is the case.

Did I mention before somewhere that the phrase "fulla shit" somes to mind?

Also for the same reason you list as to why US women and Colombian women are not all that different (to which I whole heartedly concur) there exists the same thing with Col men vs US men. There are tons of good Colombian pickens for Colombian women and tons of losers. Just like the US. There is no need for her to settle.

Why would that awesome Colombiana waste her time with some foreigner who is just passing through? With some foreigner who can't find a good airfare deal without going to a sex forum? A guy who already stays in six different places when in Colombia who is in need of more hotel information or "travel advice"? A self proclaimed millionaire? Looking to save $100 on airfare? The phrase "fulla shit" comes to mind.

On a lighter note Spirit Air is having a promotion where people not in their club can reap the benefits without the $39 fee. Maybe you are here for weather too? There is a low pressure system coming in from the north.

See? It's good that you are here. Look at all these travel tips in Medellin Sex Reports! You are sooo right Mr Millionaire!

Or maybe you are here to pump yourself up because of your short comings and low self image? Obviously that is what it is as what type of millionaire continues to come here for travel advice? Maybe you're are just fulla shit?

[Tar Heel Bred]

Sup fellas. I'm going to Colombia for 2 weeks in March. I'm going to be hitting all the major spots. Medellin, Bogota, Cali, pereira, santa marta, barranquilla, and Cartagena.

I'm young in shape 24 yrd old male that will be trying to game girls in regular clubs and malls but I need a fall back option if it turn up empty handed.

I'm looking for a spots to go to sorta like The Balcony in Brazil and the Del Rey in Costa Rica where I can go and try to shore (get some girls for free)

Can someone give me some spots to hit?

[Legal Tender]

If you've ever had stray dogs or cats hanging around your place you know not to feed them because everytime you open your front door there they are expecting to be fed again.

It's the same thing with trolls. Don't feed the trolls. Else they won't go away. Please, attention is addicting. The troll choses to engage negatively in order to get attention. Don't reward this type of behavior. Response just encourages it. Don't feed the troll.

[SavePros321]

sup fellas. i'm going to colombia for 2 weeks in march. i'm going to be hitting all the major spots. medellin, bogota, cali, pereira, santa marta, barranquilla, and cartagena.

i'm young in shape 24 yrd old male that will be trying to game girls in regular clubs and malls but i need a fall back option if it turn up empty handed.

i'm looking for a spots to go to sorta like the balcony in brazil and the del rey in costa rica where i can go and try to shore (get some girls for free)

can someone give me some spots to hit? go to the "medellin list" thread. when you find the "medellin list" in that forum look under the section of that list that says "clubs / discos / non pro." there are also list threads for cali and bogota as well.

godspeed

[HelpRules]

Has anyone tried Coca Sek? I was reading about this drink made with coca leaves. Whats it like? Can you buy it anywhere in Colombia?

[Kozak]

Hi All,

Wanted to ask any Canadian who have gone to MDE what airlines they used. I am in the process of doing the reaserch but wanted to know what others had used. I have seen AA and Air Canada that have flights but if anyone else has other recomendations please PM me. Debating about MDE or Brazil so any info on flights would help

Thanks.

Kozak

[You Can]

Hey Bud, this runner up guy is a total piece of crap! Hopefully he will travel to an area with a beautiful beach and ocean and walk down to the ocean and just keep walking till its over his head and put himself out of his misery. He is a total dickhead!


Why do you and so many mongers feel the need to prove that they are not really mongers or have graduated to suddenly being real men who don't pay for sex anymore?

Never in his life has Donald Trump bragged about having money.

Brad Pitt never had to tell his friends "I'm a ladies' man with game, chicks dig me"

Lady Diana never said "I have class" or "I am affluent"

Einstein never told anyone,"I'm a smart feller"

These people don't have to say it, in fact they don't even think about. They just ARE.

People who DO brag about how great they are really aren't. Because greatness, class, being a real man etc, is understood, no need to brag about it to a bunch of internet strangers.

The braggart at one point in his life has come to realize just what he lacks and was not born with and thus becomes resentful and also lacks to ability to be happy with himself. The common and classic traits are bragging as a way to fill in what is missing and treating others with little or no respect, especially women as that is who he blames for his shortcomings. Our friend has already demonstrated that tenfold.

Inferiority complex? Low self esteem? A need for approval? Yes, yes, and probably yes.

Runnies, is my approval really that valuable to you? I am so flattered. I pat you on the head and hang your drawing on the fridge, whatta good boy!

Does it bother you that you had to weasel your way into the club instead of being born a great ladies man? Are you really a member or are you faking it a little?

Obviously you are leaving us as why would such a great man need to part of the monger community?

I for one could all use some education to get to your level, oh swami, can you write a book perhaps?

[You Can]

That is exactly my point! I am sure these folks (LOL) would love a bite to eat but what they really want is to get a buzz or keep a buzz and since I can totally relate to that, I am cool with that! I sure is hell am not going to start trying to reform a guy down on his luck. No fucking way, I want the guy to be happy! He already has enough problems!


I like that. Tell them to get high not go eat.

One time when I lived in a rough area I walked out of my house and a guy asked me for money to go eat. At that time we had just finished a real good dinner and had a lot of good leftovers. I tell the guy wait a minute and I will help you out. I go in my house and make a great sandwich with crisp Italian bread and I then go outside and hand it to him. He looked like I had just given him a sack of monkeys.

[Mr Gogo]

That is exactly my point! I am sure these folks (LOL) would love a bite to eat but what they really want is to get a buzz or keep a buzz and since I can totally relate to that, I am cool with that! I sure is hell am not going to start trying to reform a guy down on his luck. No fucking way, I want the guy to be happy! He already has enough problems!Reform the guy? Nobody said grab his hand and take him to church. But if you want the guy to be happy and if your comfortable doing it that way, its all good.

[Justafool]

This would have made for a truer story but "through the openings between the seats." as you claim, in the back rows does not allow for much of a gap to converse through a seat.

You live with that story, not really important, not that interesting. Would not be that big of a deal except you are insulting the Colombianas I care about and you are belittling those on this board with your poor writing and exaggerated tales.


Jeeze, this guy has never spoken to anyone on a plane one seat in front of him! What a loner!

I'm done with you people. Jajaja

[Mule69]

Has anyone tried Coca Sek? I was reading about this drink made with coca leaves. Whats it like? Can you buy it anywhere in Colombia?A couple years ago I also read the Maxim article about this elixir but in my travels to Medellin and Cartagena I have never seen or heard tell of it. I believe the Maxim author bought it in Cali. It is as far as I know not approved nor legal to buy it in Colombia. If anyone knows different please weigh in. (BTW. Coca sek is an energy drink made with coca leaves that according to the Maxim magazine writer puts Red bull to shame!)

[Tar Heel Bred]

With that type of travel schedule, you won't have time to hit any clubs. You'll only see the insides of airports or bus stations.

Reef. This is my actual itinerary as of now.

March 1. Medellin

March 2. Medellin.

March 3. Medellin.

March 4. Cali.

March 5. Cali.

March 6. Cali.

March 7. Bogota.

March 8. Bogota.

March 9. Bogota.

March 10. Santa Marta.

March 11. Santa Marta.

March 12. Santa Marta.

March 13. Baranquilla.

March 14. Baranquilla.

March 15. Cartagena.

March 16. Cartagena.

Ill have time to hit the clubs.

Medellin to Cali is 9 hrs

Cali to Bogota is 12 hrs.

Only long problematic bus ride is from Bogota to Santa Marta 20 some hours!

[Tar Heel Bred]

I think this is just a broke ass gringo trying to get by coming to Colombia with not a centavo in his pocket. His post does not even make sense. Look at the destinations he is going to, and the time frame he is going to be in Colombia.your funny dude. I'm actually a grad student going to Colombia for Spring Break to scope out cities to help decide which one to move to when I graduate.

Its an ambitious itinerary with my timeframe but I think I can make it work. As long as I get one day and 2 nights in each city thats all I need.

[Legal Tender]

your funny dude. I'm actually a grad student going to Colombia for Spring Break to scope out cities to help decide which one to move to when I graduate.

Its an ambitious itinerary with my timeframe but I think I can make it work. As long as I get one day and 2 nights in each city thats all I need. So, you're going just to get an overview. Sounds like an interesting but not the usual Yankee trip to Colombia. Please consider writing a report about your trip. Besides, nothing is written in stone. If you find a city that you don't want to leave, then don't. I'm curious. What drew you to Colombia. I take it your're not the retired type, but just starting on your professional career.

Only good energy!

[Tar Heel Bred]

So, you're going just to get an overview. Sounds like an interesting but not the usual Yankee trip to Colombia. Please consider writing a report about your trip. Besides, nothing is written in stone. If you find a city that you don't want to leave, then don't. I'm curious. What drew you to Colombia. I take it your're not the retired type, but just starting on your professional career.

Only good energy!I love everything South American. The women, the music, the dance, the vibe. I've been to Brazil last yr soo the country with the next hottest women is Colombia imo.

Def not the retired type. Like I said I'm 24 and have a passion for travel with a addicting taste for hot exotic women! American women do nothing for me anymore. After I get my second degree in 2 years I'm leaving the USA

I'm not going to Colombia to bang hookers. But I like to have a plan B if I find myself empty handed at the end of the night. I loved Rio. After going out to the clubs, I would go to Balcony Bar and in one week had 3 girls go back to my apartment for free and even cooked for me the nxt day! I'm hoping to have the same results in Colombia!

Ill throw down trip report upon my return.

[Justafool]

Sounds like something that would go big in Peru or one of the cultures / countries that (legally) comsume (crew) the coca leaves.


A couple years ago I also read the Maxim article about this elixir but in my travels to Medellin and Cartagena I have never seen or heard tell of it. I believe the Maxim author bought it in Cali. It is as far as I know not approved nor legal to buy it in Colombia. If anyone knows different please weigh in. (BTW. Coca sek is an energy drink made with coca leaves that according to the Maxim magazine writer puts Red bull to shame!)

[TonySoprano]

Has anyone used the online websites to find prepagos? How do they compare with the chicas at the casas. I am going to give masajistas paisas a try.

[Psychman]

your funny dude. I'm actually a grad student going to Colombia for Spring Break to scope out cities to help decide which one to move to when I graduate.

Its an ambitious itinerary with my timeframe but I think I can make it work. As long as I get one day and 2 nights in each city thats all I need. Sorry you were the recipient of some snarkyness without good cuase. It seems to be a hobby of some posters. I was in your shoes 20 years in Central America, and used working girls as back ups for when the club scene did not work out, just as you are planing. Now, I'm too lazy and 20 year old chicas are way too much work and my rate of sucess is far to low- but you get go get them.

I would say that perhaps cutting out on your longest leg would make the trip far more enjoyable. I personally like to sink into a spot for a bit longer, especially when I am working for the freebies.

One options also is getting a cheap flight from Bogata to one of the Costal towns. Really not too expensive if you buy a one way flight in country.

[LuckyEddie]

I love everything South American. The women, the music, the dance, the vibe. I've been to Brazil last yr soo the country with the next hottest women is Colombia imoBesides sexier women (in and out of the bedroom) Brazil has much better food than Colombia.

In the Colombian cities go to the hotspots at night and you will do fine. You like to dance, are young, educated and well travelled, I don't see a problem. Brazil is the best spot on the planet for Latin women. Ipanema beach, great food, awesome vibe (you won't find that vibe in Colombia, sorry).

Although Spanish is more important to Colombian women than Portuguese is to Brazilian women it's the only problem I have with Brazil. I do NOT want to learn Portuguese. Also the guys on this board are budget conscious and not reallly into the slightly higer prices for airfare and hookers that Brazil offers.

I would live in Brazil if it weren't for the USD $1100, 10 hour flight and the Portuguese language thing. Their economy is booming and crime is down.

You will have a great time in Colombia.

[Ricker]

. Although Spanish is more important to Colombian women than Portuguese is to Brazilian women it's the only problem I have with Brazil. I do NOT want to learn Portuguese.

I would live in Brazil if it weren't for the USD $1100, 10 hour flight and the Portuguese language thing. Their economy is booming and crime is down.

You will have a great time in Colombia. I know what ya mean about Brazil!

I love the people, the girls and the culture.

Man, I did NOT want to have to learn Portuguese either, but I'll tell ya what, after deciding to learn it, it's really not that difficult a transition from Spanish, especially if your spanish grammar is already good, and it's a fun, sexy language.

I would say that speaking Portuguese is just as important to Brazillian girls as spanish is to Colombianas, unless you just hang out in the touristy areas of Brazil.

Funny, the other night I was translating for a Colombian guy in a night club in Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Though similar for sure, the spanish will only get ya so far in Brazil.

It's also fun to speak Portuguese with the Colombianas, they find it fun to try and translate it to spanish, and it sounds sexy.

Happy travels.

[Legal Tender]

I love everything South American. The women, the music, the dance, the vibe. I've been to Brazil last yr soo the country with the next hottest women is Colombia imo.

Def not the retired type. Like I said I'm 24 and have a passion for travel with a addicting taste for hot exotic women! American women do nothing for me anymore. After I get my second degree in 2 years I'm leaving the USA

Ill throw down trip report upon my return. Ok, the truth come out: I hate you! I'm 64 and have a passion for traveling with addicting taste for hot exotic women, too! And, I'm richer than four feet up a bull's ass. Want to trade places? Hell, I've got shoes that are older than you are.

Seriously, your acknowledgement of the allure of South America is really refreshing reading coming from someone who is in the spring time of his life. I hope you find only the best. Because of various considerations, thankfully health is not one of them, I cannot move to Colombia, although I have recently purchased an apartment in Medellin. I've done the next best thing. I've sponsored a beautiful Piasa as a student here in the US. She is beautiful, an ass that ought to be insured, and a very serious student. The reward of seeing her grow and develop in the Spring time of her life is a great gift to me. Thank you for your contributions to this area of ISG, and we all look forward to vicariously sharing in your adventure.

Only good energy!

[LuckyEddie]

I would say that speaking Portuguese is just as important to Brazillian girls as spanish is to Colombianas, unless you just hang out in the touristy areas of Brazil.Which is what this guy is doing. Brazillians in Rio are just so much more laid back and the women who are out and about are totally approachable. Must be the beach scene.


Man, I did NOT want to have to learn Portuguese either, but I'll tell ya what, after deciding to learn it, it's really not that difficult a transition from Spanish, especially if your spanish grammar is already good, and it's a fun, sexy language.I had a problem going to Spanish from Italian and still mix things up. Throwing Portuguese into the mix, a very Italianesque language, would kill me more and I would end up with a mix of all three. If Brazil were only 5 hours from the mainland I would give it a shot, the whole 9.

[LuckyEddie]

I've sponsored a beautiful Piasa as a student here in the US. She is beautiful, an ass that ought to be insured, and a very serious student. The reward of seeing her grow and develop in the Spring time of her life is a great gift to me. Thank you for your contributions to this area of ISG, and we all look forward to vicariously sharing in your adventure.

Only good energy! Legal, thanks for sharing but I hope you are ready for the end of Winnie the Pooh.

[Ricker]

Which is what this guy is doing. Brazillians in Rio are just so much more laid back and the women who are out and about are totally approachable. Must be the beach scene.

I had a problem going to Spanish from Italian and still mix things up. Throwing Portuguese into the mix, a very Italianesque language, would kill me more and I would end up with a mix of all three. If Brazil were only 5 hours from the mainland I would give it a shot, the whole 9. Yep, I totally agree with all that.

Also, not just in the beach scene of Rio, but I find Brazillian girls from all over, generally more easily approachable than most other latin or anglo girls.

[Mountain Guy]

What airline offers those prices? I've been trying to figure out how to get from Medellin to the beaches (CTG) without spending two days on a bus and all I can find are flight routed through Bogota at US$260 or more.


I'd suggest you take at least one flight, pretty cheap if you book a week in advance. They'll advertise for say. 18, 000 COP (!) to 158, 000 COP for Bogota to Medellin, for example.

I booked a 38, 000 flight that route, one way, and with taxes it came to about 150, 000 COp, so say $80 USD, not bad at all.

If there was a straight, level road anywhere in Colombia the buses wouldn't be too bad. But with limited time, you won't save that much $$ by busing it, and I don't think you'll see much.

If yout ake the bus you might meet a nice single mom with 2 young kids on her lap in the seat beside you as she can't afford to buy more than 1 ticket.

BTW, I think you are doing the right thing, looking around, although it is hard to tell what a place is really like after a few days.

[LuckyEddie]

Hah! I knew it wouldn't take long. Eddie, you're thinking just like me but then again I'm a cynical fuck at heart.

Reef. Me too. I make Schopenhauer look cheery.


"In early youth, as we contemplate our coming life, we are like children in a theatre before the curtain is raised, sitting there in high spirits and eagerly waiting for the play to begin. It is a blessing that we do not know what is really going to happen. Could we foresee it, there are times when children might seem like innocent prisoners, condemned, not to death, but to life, and as yet all unconscious of what their sentence means. Nevertheless, every man desires to reach old age; in other words, a state of life of which it may be said: 'It is bad to-day, and it will be worse to-morrow; and so on till the worst of all."

[Frank Casio]

Hi guys,

My body Mr. PO from Panama is breaking all kinds of records at My Place. He was here about a month ago and partook of the company of 24 "cuties" in 10 days. A combination of La Mayorista girls and las "casas". That`s 24 different "cuties", not sessions, because he did repeat. That would be even more. I believe the last record was 17 in a week, formerly held by my body from Brazil.

Mr. PO is back at My Place for a month, and this time his going for a 90-100 record in a month. Mr. PO is 48 yrs. Old, so we're pumping him up with all kinds of testosterone, ha, ha. I`m lucky if I have enough leche for 20 sessions a month, but then, I`m 52 and getting lazy. Too much pussy in the last 5 years, ha, ha.

Frank Casio!

[Strangeman]

You can not. I have tried booking from Avianca and Copa. The flights are cheap. Unless you buy from the US. Then the price is sometimes almost triple for the same ticket. I will be purchasing my ticket in country for that very reason. I am not sure why they apply the very obvious gringo tax.

[Da Kine Kid]

Be interested to know if you can access the same fares from outside Colombia?I know with Avianca, you cannot get those same prices outside of Colombia. I even called them to ask why the prices differed depending on which country you're from (when it asks you at the initial entry to the site) and why I couldn't purchase one at the Colombian price online using my US credit card, and the representative explained to me that it goes on a sliding scale depending which country you're from.

The thing to do is just fly into Bogota from the US (as it was the cheapest) and then buy the tickets on the spot at the Avianca counter as soon as you land at El Dorado, to get the Colombian price. It kind of riled my ass that the "gringo tax" applied even to established institutions.

If you don't want to buy the tickets immediately at the airport, I know they have Avianca counters at many of the Exito stores.

[LocoGringo]

Try these, no increase for being in the USA and booking. www.satena.com, www.aires.aero And www.easyfly.com.co These 3 airlines offer flights to many of the smaller, larger cities in Colombia. They fly out of Herrera airport in Poblado, much nore convienient that the international a / p in Rio negra.

[Black Page]

I know with Avianca, you cannot get those same prices outside of Colombia. I even called them to ask why the prices differed depending on which country you're from (when it asks you at the initial entry to the site) and why I couldn't purchase one at the Colombian price online using my US credit card, and the representative explained to me that it goes on a sliding scale depending which country you're from.This statement is partially wrong and misleading (as some others I read about this issue).
On Avianca.com you CAN specify what country you are in.
(BTW, why this damn new forum software automatically "corrects" my text and writes "Avianca. Com"?)

It is probably true that, if you are going to use a USA credit card, then you MUST specify that your country is USA and then you are offered the higher price. I never tried this, so I do not argue or contradict this statement.

However, the same does NOT hold for all countries. I live in a European country. When I buy tickets from avianca. Com:
- I specify "Colombia" as my country.
- I make my choice and buy tickets, at the Colombian regular price.
- I pay with my "European-country" credit card.
- booking is immediately confirmed, while the e-ticket is issued a couple of days later (they need to do some thorough check on the bank network).

I add that the Avianca web site is one of the best ones. Very efficient and informative. It presents all fares and flights in a very readable table. It also allows you to contact the call center by real time CHAT. That's very convenient. The people at the call center is kind, courteous, and efficient.

My suggestion to USA customers is to check the Colombia price (set Colombia as your country on the web site) and then try to buy the ticket from the call center by telephone or chat.

PS: I know what you are thinking. I am NOT affiliated with Avianca, neither they pay me to advertise.

[LocoGringo]

I have been able to buy tickets recently at Avianca. Com with a USA credit card and get COP prices if I use Colombia as my base, not USA. This is either a new policy (good) or the website is making an exception. I a platinum with Avianca but that means nothing. In the past I would but a tx in Colombia and then use it for a flight later by calling and reissuing the tx, lots of work to save but it works. Check this wbsite for airports and who flys there, then use a little spanish to book. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Airports_in_Colombia

[SlamCity7777]

Guys,

All the air fare and flight info should be sent via PM or on a separate topic.

Can we get back on track and talk about banging hot young chicks?

[Black Page]

Guys,

All the air fare and flight info should be sent via PM or on a separate topic.

Can we get back on track and talk about banging hot young chicks? I agree, but I beg everyone to promise to refrain from advertising his own premises, like those were the only places where to meet girls in Medellin. There are specific threads also for that. At least, these posts on Avianca allow people to come to MDE saving some money. That's useful!

Now, let us all promise to talk ONLY about the (hard) core topic of the thread?

[El Vagabundo]

I know with Avianca, you cannot get those same prices outside of Colombia. I even called them to ask why the prices differed depending on which country you're from (when it asks you at the initial entry to the site) and why I couldn't purchase one at the Colombian price online using my US credit card, and the representative explained to me that it goes on a sliding scale depending which country you're from.I know this off of the topic, 'Banging Hot Chicas' And yes, I like banging hot chicas too, but this little conversion about Avianca is a hot spot with me. Last year I wrote Avianca this email:

Hello, Ms. Cabrera:

In July your company stopped accepting USA credit cards for purchases on line in Pesos.

What you are doing is implementing a two tier pricing system. One in dollars and one in pesos. Since the dollar pricing is a lot higher, you are trying to stop foreigners from buying in pesos by prohibiting the use of international credit cards on peso purchases. It is a clear and obvious scheme to charge foreigners more for the same service.

This trick to prohibit the use of international credit cards is just another ruse to cheat or abuse us, the consumer and specifically foreigners out of a little extra $$$$

I have seen a lot of postings on various web sites about your new policy of charging foreigners more for the same flight. None of them are complementary. Until this practice is stopped, I will not be flying Avianca. There are many choices available, Spirit Air, Copa, Jet Blue and several more.

For national flights there is Aires, Aero Republica, Easy Fly, ADA and several others. By the way, Aires has no problem processing USA credit cards on line for national flights priced in Pesos.

Thank you for your time reading this and please let the people in charge of this un fair policy know.

This was their response:

We have received your comments and appreciate your loyalty to Avianca. We constantly strive to improve our services based on feedback from our customers.

As you are aware, we recently modified our policy for tickets purchased through our Internet website,

www.avianca.com.

Customers must now complete purchases made over the website using a credit card issued in the same country in which they make their purchase. Therefore, the country where the customer's credit card was issued must correspond to the country that the customer selects when initially logging on to our website.

This measure was taken in response to a troubling pattern of credit card fraud involving purchases made with cards issued in countries outside of the country where the purchase originates. Avianca took this step to protect its customers and will continue to closely monitor transactions to detect and address fraud.

As you may also be aware, the fares available to customers making purchases in one country may differ from fares available to customers making purchases in other countries. This fare differential is a reflection of numerous factors, including local tariff rules, currency exchanges, and pricing strategies in response to competitive forces.

Our goal is to provide our customers with excellent service and an exclusive and distinctive experience aboard our flights. We are committed to working hard to improve our service and welcome future comments and suggestions.

Very truly yours,

Gina Lazaro.

Customer Relationship Department

[Napalm]

This was their response:

We have received your comments and appreciate your loyalty to Avianca. We constantly strive to improve our services based on feedback from our customers.

As you are aware, we recently modified our policy for tickets purchased through our Internet website,

www.avianca.com.

Customers must now complete purchases made over the website using a credit card issued in the same country in which they make their purchase. Therefore, the country where the customer's credit card was issued must correspond to the country that the customer selects when initially logging on to our website.

This measure was taken in response to a troubling pattern of credit card fraud involving purchases made with cards issued in countries outside of the country where the purchase originates. Avianca took this step to protect its customers and will continue to closely monitor transactions to detect and address fraud.

As you may also be aware, the fares available to customers making purchases in one country may differ from fares available to customers making purchases in other countries. This fare differential is a reflection of numerous factors, including local tariff rules, currency exchanges, and pricing strategies in response to competitive forces.

Our goal is to provide our customers with excellent service and an exclusive and distinctive experience aboard our flights. We are committed to working hard to improve our service and welcome future comments and suggestions.

Very truly yours,

Gina Lazaro.

Customer Relationship DepartmentWow that's a bullshit response If I ever heard one! How the fuck does overcharging foreign transactions prevent fraud? And currency exchange? Local tariff rules? Pricing strategies in response to competitive forces? LMFAO! Fuck you very much Avianca. You can shove your pricing strategies up your ass sideways! Cocksuckers

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Wow that's a bullshit response If I ever heard one! How the fuck does overcharging foreign transactions prevent fraud? And currency exchange? Local tariff rules? Pricing strategies in response to competitive forces? LMFAO! Fuck you very much Avianca. You can shove your pricing strategies up your ass sideways! CocksuckersSimple, find a Colombian person you can "trust" and have them buy the ticket for you and you pay them back. Which is what I do if I'm not in the country myself where I can walk into an Avianca store. This price gouging has been going on for a few years now.

[Black Page]

Folks,

Sorry to repeat, but people might be scared off and not use Avianca just because of last posts. The problem reported must exist only with USA people (I do not argue). All others Can happily buy Avianca tickets at Colombian prices with no hassle. I repeat:

I live in a European country. I bought tickets from Avianca.com at Colombian COP price last DECEMBER 2010. This is the procedure to follow:
- I specify "Colombia" as my country.
- I make my choice and buy tickets, at the Colombian regular price.
- I pay with my "European-country" credit card.
- booking is immediately confirmed, while the e-ticket is issued a couple of days later (they need to do some thorough check on the bank network).

[El Vagabundo]

Wow that's a bullshit response If I ever heard one! How the fuck does overcharging foreign transactions prevent fraud? And currency exchange? Local tariff rules? Pricing strategies in response to competitive forces? LMFAO! Fuck you very much Avianca. You can shove your pricing strategies up your ass sideways! CocksuckersI still travel on Avianca all the time. They have all the routes and run pretty well. They are the best airline here in Colombia and are on par with most of the US and airlines. It is their sales and customer service end that is the problem. I have no loyalty to them as they are a bunch of gonifs. Last month I used my miles to purchase a ticket and the taxes were $30. 00 They charged my credit card 2 times. I called them and they see where they charged me twice. They said it will be 60 to 90 days to request a refund. Yeah, right. By then I am out of the period my credit card company allows me to dispute an item. I will dispute both charges as I have no way of knowing which one is the right one. I am sure my credit card company will remove both of the charges. Fuck'them. I could care less how it ends up just as long as I get my $30 back.

[Phunluv]

I just wanted to point out something I noticed about fare differences in COP and USD. This past November, I was helping a buddy research online airfares for his wife and infant child to go to Cali around the Christmas season. I tried every possible way I can think of to search for fares on the Avianca site. I did notice the USD fare was higher than the one in COP for exactly the same itinerary, but the difference was not a huge one. It seems that you can't pay for the e-ticket anymore directly in COP if you have a US credit card, but from what I've seen, the difference is almost always less than $40 and sometimes just around $10-20.

I'm not totally crazy about this, but I think it's legal. I wouldn't rule out Avianca just on this issue alone. I would say use Avianca if their flight schedule works well for you; I wouldn't call them a great airline but they're okay and have improved slightly in recent years. There's always AA of course if you don't mind connecting through MIA (I try to avoid all the bozo TSA guys & the cuban mafia there, LOL!). Spirit is okay and FLL is not as giant a hub as MIA so things tend to run a bit smoother there. Just realize it's pretty no-frills and you can get hit badly with the luggage fees if you don't plan in advance.

I have hundreds of thousands of FF miles I need to start using so it's not a major issue for me and I believe Avianca is joining Star Alliance so keep that in mind if you have FF miles in a Star-affiliated airline and the Avianca fares are pissing you off. Avianca fares tend to be pricey compared to the other airlines and while the "dollar surcharge" is annoying, it only adds a bit and is not the main source of the price difference when comparing with Spirit or AA.

Since I live in NYC and speak Spanish, I think next time I might check with local travel agencies in Astoria, Queens or certain Colombian neighborhoods out in Jersey for fare quotes. I've always wondered about these local agencies that cater to the immigrants; if anyone has tried this way, let me know if you've found a better deal through a neighborhood agency. (There's a shipping service in Queens I use that's MUCH cheaper than FedEx when I need to send something down there although it can take awhile)

Now back to your regularly scheduled monger program.

[Bowerboy]

I have been on a 3 month trip through South America and it is the same problem everwhere. It is abasolutely f#cking insane and absolutely mindblowingly anoying and frustrating. Its like the airlines have done verything possible to stop anyone buying a ticket! It is absolutely f#cked.

First you have to pay the hugely inflated gringo price. Ok so once you acept this and try and buy the ticket it won't let you unless you have a credit card from that country. Its not just Columbia, its every country is the same. The only exception seems to be Taca airlines (which is why their 5:40am flight from Lima to Cuzco is always full 'because its about the only company who sells online in a normal way).

Compared to all Asian and European Airlines the Airlines of the Americas are a total farce. If the whole world ran their airlines the same way no one could get anywhere. Note that European and Asian airlines are the only airlines that evr turn a profit.

It helps to make sales if you can acually buy a what the company is selling. It is so absurd that its beyond belief. I have had to change plans and make so many diversions during this trip because I couldn't buy tickets for otherwise empty flights (in 3 months the only full or even close to full flight I have ben on was Taca from Lima to Cusco).

[Justafool]

I do searches to include Avianca, Copa and AA to get the best price. The most convienent of the three is Copa, them AA, lastly Avianca because of the flight arrival and departure times in Colombia. All three have at times been the cheapest and all three I have amassed free trips to Colombia. As for the Avianca credit card policy, I do not see it be that much of a difference in price between booking from the different companies other than you are not paying the same taxes (which a Colombian citizen or resident will still need to pay at the airports). I have logged in on Avianca and paid with my US credit card even though the policy does not allow. The computer (at that time) did not know my card was a foreign account. Try doing it from the Colombia sight and ignore the warning but look around you might find a better price and not have to stress about revelutionizing the companies policies.

[Phunluv]

I have been on a 3 month trip through South America and it is the same problem everwhere. It is abasolutely f#cking insane and absolutely mindblowingly anoying and frustrating. Its like the airlines have done verything possible to stop anyone buying a ticket! It is absolutely f#cked.Not sure if things have changed in recent years due to credit card fraud but a friend of mine who traveled throughout Colombia for several months had no problem flying around inside the country and even changing his ticket without any special fees or hassles. He always just went up to the counter at the airport and asked what was available. At least for regional flights WITHIN Colombia, I believe this is still the best way to go unless you are tied to a specific schedule and need to be absolutely sure you will be on a specific flight.

I can't speak though for other countries and international flights will obviously be more complicated. The Lima-Cuzco leg is an obvious exception because of the Machu Picchu tourism.

[Paisalover]

Simple, find a Colombian person you can "trust..."Yeah, right."Simply" find one. Coudln't help laughing. Still looking for a Colombian I can trust.

Enjoy the life!

PaisaLover.

Colombian Girlfriends without the Strings Attached (http://www.girlfriend4aweek.com)

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Yeah, right."Simply" find one. Coudln't help laughing. Still looking for a Colombian I can trust.

Enjoy the life!

PaisaLover.

Colombian Girlfriends without the Strings Attached (http://www.girlfriend4aweek.com)Sure its a daunting task, but it can be done. Of the 100's of Colombians I know, I can count the ones I would trust with any amount of money on one hand and that's INCLUDING my girl's family LOL. Never loan a Colombian money unless you can afford to not see it again. That's a golden Colombian rule to live by.

[Member #4394]

I think "presta me" does not mean "lend me" in effect in latin world as our "you have a second?" does not really mean just a second.


Sure its a daunting task, but it can be done. Of the 100's of Colombians I know, I can count the ones I would trust with any amount of money on one hand and that's INCLUDING my girl's family LOL. Never loan a Colombian money unless you can afford to not see it again. That's a golden Colombian rule to live by.

[LittleTruths]

Sure its a daunting task, but it can be done. Of the 100's of Colombians I know, I can count the ones I would trust with any amount of money on one hand and that's INCLUDING my girl's family LOL. Never loan a Colombian money unless you can afford to not see it again. That's a golden Colombian rule to live by.Well, feel free to bar "Colombians" and write "people" instead then, 'cause the same rule applies to just about all people IMO, and EXPECIALLY the ones you are related to by blood or relationship.

[John Gault]

Well, feel free to bar "Colombians" and write "people" instead then, 'cause the same rule applies to just about all people IMO, and EXPECIALLY the ones you are related to by blood or relationship.I don't borrow and I don't lend. I espesially don't lend.

When your broke, your a joke.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Well, feel free to bar "Colombians" and write "people" instead then, 'cause the same rule applies to just about all people IMO, and EXPECIALLY the ones you are related to by blood or relationship.Sure you can lump every kind of person and citizenship in here to an extent, but this is the Colombian forum isn't it? I speak from in depth experience.

[Manizales911]

Simple, find a Colombian person you can "trust" and have them buy the ticket for you and you pay them back. Which is what I do if I'm not in the country myself where I can walk into an Avianca store. This price gouging has been going on for a few years now.This is what I do also. The problem is most people don't have someone in Colombia that they can trust.

[Rodeo9112]

I do searches to include Avianca, Copa and AA to get the best price. The most convienent of the three is Copa, them AA, lastly Avianca because of the flight arrival and departure times in Colombia. All three have at times been the cheapest and all three I have amassed free trips to Colombia. As for the Avianca credit card policy, I do not see it be that much of a difference in price between booking from the different companies other than you are not paying the same taxes (which a Colombian citizen or resident will still need to pay at the airports). I have logged in on Avianca and paid with my US credit card even though the policy does not allow. The computer (at that time) did not know my card was a foreign account. Try doing it from the Colombia sight and ignore the warning but look around you might find a better price and not have to stress about revelutionizing the companies policies.I also found that you can get really cheap rates on Avianca if you wait till the last minute (I. E. Week before) to buy a ticket online. Now, I don't know if it was because I was in country and purchasing from a Colombian IP address in COP, but, the roundtrip between Bogota (where I was) and Medellin was right around $100 USD. This was the case when I made my first trip to Medellin (from Bogota) at the last minute after hearing all the wonderful things about "Medallo"! Just my. 02cents.

Rodeo

[Bandy]

AVIANCA is really getting expensive! For my May trip, for several months, I was waiting for airfare for the direct AVIANCA flight from JFK to MDE to come down. Instead the airfare went over $700. In fact, even with other airlines it is in mid to high $600's. Then I found a reasonable fare ($465) via Copa Airlines through VAYAMA (www.vayama.com). There is one stop at the Panama City. The same flight through Orbitz and others as well as Copa Airlines websites are close to $700. The $465 includes a $40 credit as "Wecome to 2011". Never dealt with Vayama before. But I already received the electronic ticket. So looks like they are legit. It is hard to believe that there is over $200 price difference for the same flight through other airline travel sites.

Bandy

[Ouzo 12]

Which airline should one use for cheap flights to mde

From Montreal?

I'd be interested in hearing from other canadians.

Thanks for any info given.

[Mackin]

Hey Bandy, See you in may. I am one of the guys who was there last year when you were there. I just tried AA from Detroit and they want $388. 00. One way. Then get to add on Med to Miami plus add Miami to Det. If you book round trip they want 262 each way. Last year was 149. 00 each way on a round trip. With taxes was low 300. 00 for Miami to Med. All this to say about 150. 00 more this year.

Kind of got you by the balls, don't they. PM me if you want to know who I am.

[Justafool]

It gives me an hour to grab and go on booze and perfume. I do not recommend the buying electornics at the airport duty free. In Target, I paid $180 with tax for a DSD XL anniversary addition, one that the duty free in Panama was selling for $225.


AVIANCA is really getting expensive! For my May trip, for several months, I was waiting for airfare for the direct AVIANCA flight from JFK to MDE to come down. Instead the airfare went over $700. In fact, even with other airlines it is in mid to high $600's. Then I found a reasonable fare ($465) via Copa Airlines through VAYAMA (

www.vayama.com

). There is one stop at the Panama City. The same flight through Orbitz and others as well as Copa Airlines websites are close to $700. The $465 includes a $40 credit as "Wecome to 2011". Never dealt with Vayama before. But I already received the electronic ticket. So looks like they are legit. It is hard to believe that there is over $200 price difference for the same flight through other airline travel sites.

Bandy

[Kdogg21]

Which airline should one use for cheap flights to mde

From Montreal?

I'd be interested in hearing from other canadians.

Thanks for any info given.Try using Kayak, I have been doing that, all flights will be through the US. Air canada flies direct Toronto to Bogotá 3 times a week, the flight is expensive, but with aeroplan miles has been the best deal for me to get there. Then I book Avianca separate. It is the only Direct flight from canada to Colombia. A few charters do have seasonal flights to Cartagena and San andres

[Questner]

Which airline should one use for cheap flights to mde

From Montreal?

I'd be interested in hearing from other canadians.

Thanks for any info given. Check out seasonal Air Transat to CTG or Spiritair from Plattsburg (PBG).

[Tomasb]

I found this advert on CL posting a few days ago under Colombia Vacation Rentals. Negative to say the least, any board members wish to comment?

Hi.

Yes it is true.

You now can choose from 6. Yes SIX. Vacant dusty apartments.

They all have the newest most modern electronics and furniture.

And that stuff is expensive down there.

The idea was to have some great places available for rent but it.

Seems every gringo and his dog had the same idea, so now there.

About a dozen of us gringos with about a dozen apartments each and we.

Are all trying to rent to the hapless gringo tourist who still.

Thinks that Medellin is still a cool place to hang out.

A few years ago it was but not anymore. Medellin is yesterday's flavor.

Maybe while Uribe was president, it was a real cool place but now.

That he is gone it has gotten just downright dangerous again.

Gringos being accosted and robbed on the streets and while casually strolling in parks.

Screwed with at every opportunity.

You don't think there is a huge police presence because it is safe do you?

You should hear some of the stories I could tell you about the apartment renovations.

Oh why did I ever get involved?

When I first visited Medellin I was a pretty wealthy guy with a net worth of almost two million dollars.

I spent a good chunk of that buying the apartments and now the expenses are eating me alive.

All I used to do was spend my time there with all my pretty girlfriends and it was nice.

Then I decided to get involved. Bought apartments.

Tried to start renting apartments to what are.

Essentially poor gringos who are trying to save 2 bucks a night.

What a pain in the butt.

Not to mention the monthly nut on the apartments is almost 3000 us dollars.

So anyway now I have 6 dusty vacant apartments in Medellin waiting.

For renters and I am sitting here in snowy New York freezing my butt off.

How did this happen?

Anyone want to rent (or buy) 6 vacant dusty apartments in Medellin?

[Hioctane]

AVIANCA is really getting expensive! For my May trip, for several months, I was waiting for airfare for the direct AVIANCA flight from JFK to MDE to come down. Instead the airfare went over $700. In fact, even with other airlines it is in mid to high $600's. Then I found a reasonable fare ($465) via Copa Airlines through VAYAMA

www.vayama.com

There is one stop at the Panama City. The same flight through Orbitz and others as well as Copa Airlines websites are close to $700. The $465 includes a $40 credit as "Wecome to 2011". Never dealt with Vayama before. But I already received the electronic ticket. So looks like they are legit. It is hard to believe that there is over $200 price difference for the same flight through other airline travel sites.

BandyAirfare has been getting crazy! Best deal around is Spirit. Around $220 from LGA (without baggage). Even at $260 it's still a steal. I plan to travel super light and save on baggage too.

[CaptainDorado]

I found this advert on CL posting a few days ago under Colombia Vacation Rentals. Negative to say the least, any board members wish to comment?

Hi.

Yes it is true.

You now can choose from 6. Yes SIX. Vacant dusty apartments.

They all have the newest most modern electronics and furniture.

And that stuff is expensive down there.

The idea was to have some great places available for rent but it.

Seems every gringo and his dog had the same idea, so now there.

About a dozen of us gringos with about a dozen apartments each and we.

Are all trying to rent to the hapless gringo tourist who still.

Thinks that Medellin is still a cool place to hang out.

A few years ago it was but not anymore. Medellin is yesterday's flavor.

Maybe while Uribe was president, it was a real cool place but now.

That he is gone it has gotten just downright dangerous again.

Gringos being accosted and robbed on the streets and while casually strolling in parks.

Screwed with at every opportunity.

You don't think there is a huge police presence because it is safe do you?

You should hear some of the stories I could tell you about the apartment renovations.

Oh why did I ever get involved?

When I first visited Medellin I was a pretty wealthy guy with a net worth of almost two million dollars.

I spent a good chunk of that buying the apartments and now the expenses are eating me alive.

All I used to do was spend my time there with all my pretty girlfriends and it was nice.

Then I decided to get involved. Bought apartments.

Tried to start renting apartments to what are.

Essentially poor gringos who are trying to save 2 bucks a night.

What a pain in the butt.

Not to mention the monthly nut on the apartments is almost 3000 us dollars.

So anyway now I have 6 dusty vacant apartments in Medellin waiting.

For renters and I am sitting here in snowy New York freezing my butt off.

How did this happen?

Anyone want to rent (or buy) 6 vacant dusty apartments in Medellin? Saw that to and sent an email to him, never heard back. Who is this person?

[MiamiHeatLuver]

It's pretty obvious the guy has an axe to grind, he doen't like the gringos in Medellin. There are lots of these types around, mainly pissed off colombians, but some strange gringos too who want Medellin all to themselves IMO.

I am renting a nice little apt in el poblado, it was not easy to find. So please show me where all the empty apts are.

As for being safe, you must be kidding. Hanging around el poblado is like hanging around beverly Hills. If anything I would say it's boring it's so tranquil.

The only thing I agree with is Medellin is yesterday's news. There are so many gringos here it isn't funny. No wonder this guy is trying to scare some off. I was at a cafe a few days ago and all 8 tables were full of gringos. Not a colombian in sight.

I think this guy should just tell the truth, the reason not to come to Medellin is that gringos now outnumber prepagos (and besides that, not a helluva lot to do here)

I'm enjoying my time here, the girls are pretty and lots walking around. So far I have had much better luck getting dates with non pros than with prepagos, which tells you something.

But after a week, the inital euphoria has worn off, and I'm looking forward to the next stop, which will be outside of Colombia 'cause I think it's done here, at least for me, as I am 50, and competition here is way too fierce for my lazy ass. Thats a pretty honest assessment, But not only American and Brit gringos but others like Dutch, German, Belgium, Backpackers. Every single kind of debauchees gringo from every country can now be found in Medellin. Mainly in the south though. From lleras on down to Sabaneta. Thats why people are learning to go to other areas and keep their mouths SHUT. Not only in other parts of Medellin but other parts of Colombia.

Keeping Medellin for themselves? That's laughable, Medellin has been on its way down for the past 3 years now.

[Devoman]

Which airline should one use for cheap flights to mde

From Montreal?

I'd be interested in hearing from other canadians.

Thanks for any info given. Ouzo,

The best way to do it is to connect through Miami or Orlando. You need to book 2 separate flights. One from Montreal to Miami and the other from Miami to Medellin. Give yourself lots of time to connect in Miami as the flights from South America are often delayed. Let me know if you need any further info.

Devo

[LuckyEddie]

Ouzo,

The best way to do it is to connect through Miami or Orlando. You need to book 2 separate flights. One from Montreal to Miami and the other from Miami to Medellin. Give yourself lots of time to connect in Miami as the flights from South America are often delayed. Let me know if you need any further info.

DevoI know a lot of folks break the rules but if you want to talk about airfare / flights, getting around and all around general info on Colombia. It's very helpful information but it should be here:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info

Thank you

[BeersTerry]

How about trying Montreal. NYC. Medellin?

I've done NYC to Medellin / Bogota a couple of times. It sure beats hanging out in Miami airport for 6 hours.

[LuckyEddie]

How about trying Montreal. NYC. Medellin?

I've done NYC to Medellin / Bogota a couple of times. It sure beats hanging out in Miami airport for 6 hours. For me all of this flying business is just so complicated and I am not good at using the computer all that good, so I jump ship in Skokie and I make way over to Tibet Travel Agency and I get on on a course in the Himalayas. I'm waiting for the next available travel agent and who do they give me? The Dali Lama himself, flowing robes, book of Tibet, bald, striking. First I asked him where the airport is located and he, said "Gunga Galunga". . That is when I asked him to help you guys out : The Montreal to Medellin thing, and here is his advice:

"For my money and time there is just no better route to MDE from Montreal than via Atlanta.". Says Dali Lama from Tibet Travel in Skokie, Tibet.

To which I replied,"Hey Lama! They don't wants no big layovers as that cuts into chica time".

Dali Lama grunts, says a prayer and does some incredible magic on his computer, takes pull on his Elsinore, scratches his flanel robe and says, "I'm talking Delta of course. No need to book two seperate airlines and it's all one ticket. No extra baggage fees"

The Dali Lama saves the day again:

Depart – Sat Feb 12 2011

Delta Flight 5138 Departs: 9:49a Elliott Trudeau (YUL) Arrives: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Canadair Regional Jet 700 (Regional Jet) | 3h 05m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 1h 01m

Delta Flight 443 Departs: 1:55p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 6:42p Eldorado (BOG)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 4h 47m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 48m

Delta Flight AV9300 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 9:30p Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 10:22p Jose Marie Cordova (MDE)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 58m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Return – Sat Feb 26 2011

Delta Flight AV9304 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 7:05a Jose Marie Cordova (MDE) Arrives: 8:03a Eldorado (BOG)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 50m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 17m

Delta Flight 444 Departs: 10:30a Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 3:37p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 5h 07m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 2h17m

Delta Flight 5372 Departs: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 3:32p Elliott Trudeau (YUL)

Canadair Regional Jet 900 (Regional Jet) | 2h 38m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain.

The Dali Lama says "The big leg is a Boeing with lots of leg room, so yer friends got that going for them. Which is nice."

[Hioctane]

No one who has apts for sale or rent is going to post in Craigslist that it's really hard to do. Pretty easy to see through this guy.

Probably the same guy who posts on CL that DAS is watching you! Hahaha what a joke.

Might be another reason to avoid Medellin though, I can tell gringos have a bad rep here, and it's not going to get any better.

And yeah, tons of europeans here as well. I have phone numbers of maybe 15 prepagos, most of them well known, and to find one available on a Monday night I had to call 10. Admittedly it was last minute, but everyone is calling all the same girls. So far my 2 episodes with the well known girls have been very disappointing. I'll try one more before sticking to the 2 non pros I have found, that have much better attitudes, and even though they are over 30, look as good as the 20 year olds. There are reputable renters on craigslist. To say that their apartments are vacant is bullshit. There are plenty of agencies that can help you rent. Heck, you can post here and charge less than what the standard rate is. And you will get guys banging down your door. Even a discount rate is better than a vacant apartment!

Seeing the same prepagos is lame. They overcharge because they know you are gringo. You want some real fun? Start your own network. Go to casas. Take them out. Meet their friends. Meet their friends friends. You'll soon have your own private network.

[Ricker]

Once again LuckyEddie, you got me LMFAO with tears.

Thanks for that post!

[LuckyEddie]

Once again LuckyEddie, you got me LMFAO with tears.

Thanks for that post! Thanks Ricker. I wish I could edit it because I have funnier stuff to add but too late.

I actually changed my mind and think all this talk about Medellin and women and sex and picking up the ladies really needs to take a back seat so we can get some real Medellin Reports: Airlines-How to get from point A to point B.

I mean if people can't get to the airport or get tickets how the hell are they going to enjoy the International Sex Guide? Let's not put the cart before the horse I always say.

I just hope Jackson doesn't come on here and move all of these airline posts over to Expedia or Orbitz, you know what a stick in the mud that guy is.

[Rodeo9112]

I've done NYC to Medellin / Bogota a couple of times. It sure beats hanging out in Miami airport for 6 hours.Not if you smash a good Brazilian or Venezuelan escort during your layover in Miami! The area around the airport is crawling with love hotels and incall escort locations. Trust me, I used to live and work in the heart of it all. Of course, I understand wanting to avoid the stress of leaving the airport and then having to re-do the whole security screening drama.

Rodeo

[Member #4394]

"Dalai" Lama please.


For me all of this flying business is just so complicated and I am not good at using the computer all that good, so I jump ship in Skokie and I make way over to Tibet Travel Agency and I get on on a course in the Himalayas. I'm waiting for the next available travel agent and who do they give me? The Dali Lama himself, flowing robes, book of Tibet, bald, striking. First I asked him where the airport is located and he, said "Gunga Galunga". . That is when I asked him to help you guys out : The Montreal to Medellin thing, and here is his advice:

"For my money and time there is just no better route to MDE from Montreal than via Atlanta.". Says Dali Lama from Tibet Travel in Skokie, Tibet.

To which I replied,"Hey Lama! They don't wants no big layovers as that cuts into chica time".

Dali Lama grunts, says a prayer and does some incredible magic on his computer, takes pull on his Elsinore, scratches his flanel robe and says, "I'm talking Delta of course. No need to book two seperate airlines and it's all one ticket. No extra baggage fees"

The Dali Lama saves the day again:

Depart – Sat Feb 12 2011

Delta Flight 5138 Departs: 9:49a Elliott Trudeau (YUL) Arrives: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Canadair Regional Jet 700 (Regional Jet) | 3h 05m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 1h 01m

Delta Flight 443 Departs: 1:55p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 6:42p Eldorado (BOG)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 4h 47m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 48m

Delta Flight AV9300 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 9:30p Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 10:22p Jose Marie Cordova (MDE)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 58m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Return – Sat Feb 26 2011

Delta Flight AV9304 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 7:05a Jose Marie Cordova (MDE) Arrives: 8:03a Eldorado (BOG)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 50m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 17m

Delta Flight 444 Departs: 10:30a Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 3:37p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 5h 07m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 2h17m

Delta Flight 5372 Departs: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 3:32p Elliott Trudeau (YUL)

Canadair Regional Jet 900 (Regional Jet) | 2h 38m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain.

The Dali Lama says "The big leg is a Boeing with lots of leg room, so yer friends got that going for them. Which is nice."

[Furysys]

Rodeo, never would have known that (seriously!). I have been stuck in the Miami airport but never more than.

3 hrs. Sounds like an idea if you are stuck there for more than 5, I'd have to look into that someday

[TweedleD]

Not if you smash a good Brazilian or Venezuelan escort during your layover in Miami! The area around the airport is crawling with love hotels and incall escort locations. Trust me, I used to live and work in the heart of it all. Of course, I understand wanting to avoid the stress of leaving the airport and then having to re-do the whole security screening drama.

RodeoI understand there is also some senatorial foot tapping in the bathroom stalls but I'm not really into that

[Nino Bravo]

For me all of this flying business is just so complicated and I am not good at using the computer all that good, so I jump ship in Skokie and I make way over to Tibet Travel Agency and I get on on a course in the Himalayas. I'm waiting for the next available travel agent and who do they give me? The Dali Lama himself, flowing robes, book of Tibet, bald, striking. First I asked him where the airport is located and he, said "Gunga Galunga". . That is when I asked him to help you guys out : The Montreal to Medellin thing, and here is his advice:

"For my money and time there is just no better route to MDE from Montreal than via Atlanta.". Says Dali Lama from Tibet Travel in Skokie, Tibet.

To which I replied,"Hey Lama! They don't wants no big layovers as that cuts into chica time".

Dali Lama grunts, says a prayer and does some incredible magic on his computer, takes pull on his Elsinore, scratches his flanel robe and says, "I'm talking Delta of course. No need to book two seperate airlines and it's all one ticket. No extra baggage fees"

The Dali Lama saves the day again:

Depart – Sat Feb 12 2011

Delta Flight 5138 Departs: 9:49a Elliott Trudeau (YUL) Arrives: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Canadair Regional Jet 700 (Regional Jet) | 3h 05m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 1h 01m

Delta Flight 443 Departs: 1:55p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 6:42p Eldorado (BOG)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 4h 47m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 48m

Delta Flight AV9300 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 9:30p Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 10:22p Jose Marie Cordova (MDE)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 58m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Return – Sat Feb 26 2011

Delta Flight AV9304 Operated by Avianca Aerovias Departs: 7:05a Jose Marie Cordova (MDE) Arrives: 8:03a Eldorado (BOG)

Airbus A320-100/200 (Narrow-body Jet) | 0h 50m | 144 miles | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Bogota, Colombia (BOG) for 2h 17m

Delta Flight 444 Departs: 10:30a Eldorado (BOG) Arrives: 3:37p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL)

Boeing 757 (Narrow-body Jet) | 5h 07m | 2105 miles | WiFi Available | 9+ seats remain

Layover in Atlanta, GA (ATL) for 2h17m

Delta Flight 5372 Departs: 12:54p Hartsfield- Jackson (ATL) Arrives: 3:32p Elliott Trudeau (YUL)

Canadair Regional Jet 900 (Regional Jet) | 2h 38m | 992 miles | 9+ seats remain.

The Dali Lama says "The big leg is a Boeing with lots of leg room, so yer friends got that going for them. Which is nice."Hey Luckie,

It seems you are a little "Unluckie" when it comes to travel agents. Better inform the Dali, that flight 443 on Feb. 12 leaves out of Atlanta at 4:55 pm, and arrives in Bogota at 9:42 pm. Which means of course you will miss your Avianca flight to MDE, and will have to spend the night in Bogota and catch a flight to MDE the next day. Bummer.

[Chesscat]

In the first place this should be in the apts thread. But anyway, I don't doubt that there are some people who bought, who decided they didn't want to live full-time in Medallo, and then have various degrees of difficulty in renting their places out. But the most prominent investor-renter is Bbrocs, who by all appearances is a pretty good guy. He has not had any problem in turn of occupancy or ROI, but in his brutal honesty he has posted (in the appropriate apt section) problems he has run into with the 30 day rule. This 30 day rule is designed to eliminate short-term apt rentals. The goal is not completely illogical, if the condos, which is mostly what they are, are rented to guys with prurient interests, then this impacts the other condo owners, in that low-rent, or high-rent, but rentable chicas, and perhaps shit-faced foreigners, are their new neighbors. But, recognizing the logic in the law, it makes me in the first place realize, again, the dangers of investing in a foreign country where you don't know all the laws or ins and outs, or for that matter to what extent you will realize your imagined paradise there. But I get the impression our friend Bbrocs has deep enough pockets, not immeasurably deep, but deep enough, to weather the storm, or even the permanent change. I hope so, as he seems quite the decent person. Also, at such time as I retire, in a few years, a monthly rental would be perfect for me, as it may be for many of you right now. As for despondent investors, in the first place I don't believe it, in the second Barry's places are the best, by the week or the month as the case may be.

[Bbrocs]

that was a hoax, i contacted the poster to buy all or lease, never returned the email. that cl post was put there to scare off foreign investors. i think someone was taking a shot at me, funny he mentions the same apartment number he owns, i own that number. he says in ny freezing, i am in ny freezing. my new problem at soto, i'll go long term, short term or i'll sell them for a profit through first american. it's that simple. meanwhile good colombian real-estate continues to rise. if it goes sideways or down, i'm 42, who knows what will be in 15-20 years. chess thanks man for the kind words. me and ruben actually care about our clients, that's our secret our niche, i also can decorate the crap out of apartment, and yes i have some deep pockets, it wasn't handed to me i carved it out myself. go go gold & silver, still plenty of room to run on silver. never say i didn't give a tip. now soto verde says i can't have any women enter my apartments, gearing up for a lawsuit and half.

barry.


in the first place this should be in the apts thread. but anyway, i don't doubt that there are some people who bought, who decided they didn't want to live full-time in medallo, and then have various degrees of difficulty in renting their places out. but the most prominent investor-renter is bbrocs, who by all appearances is a pretty good guy. he has not had any problem in turn of occupancy or roi, but in his brutal honesty he has posted (in the appropriate apt section) problems he has run into with the 30 day rule. this 30 day rule is designed to eliminate short-term apt rentals. the goal is not completely illogical, if the condos, which is mostly what they are, are rented to guys with prurient interests, then this impacts the other condo owners, in that low-rent, or high-rent, but rentable chicas, and perhaps shit-faced foreigners, are their new neighbors. but, recognizing the logic in the law, it makes me in the first place realize, again, the dangers of investing in a foreign country where you don't know all the laws or ins and outs, or for that matter to what extent you will realize your imagined paradise there. but i get the impression our friend bbrocs has deep enough pockets, not immeasurably deep, but deep enough, to weather the storm, or even the permanent change. i hope so, as he seems quite the decent person. also, at such time as i retire, in a few years, a monthly rental would be perfect for me, as it may be for many of you right now. as for despondent investors, in the first place i don't believe it, in the second barry's places are the best, by the week or the month as the case may be.

[Lima Busy]

this 30 day rule is designed to eliminate short-term apt rentals. the goal is not completely illogical, if the condos, which is mostly what they are, are rented to guys with prurient interests, then this impacts the other condo owners, in that low-rent, or high-rent, but rentable chicas, and perhaps shit-faced foreigners, are their new neighbors.the law (becoming popular in cities around the world) is actually as a result of the lobbying of the hotel companies and has nothing to do with the small number of mongers around. they recently implemented this in nyc (where i was from) and it has been bandied about here in lima.

many mongers will stay for a month or more so it does not affect them. the "real tourists" are just passing thru for a few days and are opting for apartments rather than putting up the family in a hotel. the hotels are well aware of cl and other venues and are acting in there own self interest. if there were any major players in mde they would band together to form an association and make there voices (money) heard!

[LuckyEddie]

If there were any major players in MDE they would band together to form an association and make there voices (money) heard!Or they should just be majority on the condo board or own the building outright.

[LuckyEddie]

Hey Luckie,

It seems you are a little "Unluckie" when it comes to travel agents. Better inform the Dali, that flight 443 on Feb. 12 leaves out of Atlanta at 4:55 pm, and arrives in Bogota at 9:42 pm. Which means of course you will miss your Avianca flight to MDE, and will have to spend the night in Bogota and catch a flight to MDE the next day. Bummer. I may be unlucky but I can research and book a flight without asking 20 different people "What should I do?", hold my own dick when I [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) but I obviously I have been duped by a Dali Lama impersonator. Oh well looks like I will be stuck in some airport somewhere between Montreal and Medellin. If only I had asked more people to show me how this airport thing functions. Thanks Nino you saved me a heap of trouble.

[LuckyEddie]

in the first place this should be in the apts thread.no! we should keep all of the apartment and rentals and 'air travel 101' here instead of in the threads where they belong. this way when some newbie stops by and says,"i rtff but for the last 40 pages there was nothing but crap" he will be justified.

if i am jackson i blow all this shit out and give us all warnings. especially me!

[Bbrocs]

Or they should just be majority on the condo board or own the building outright.There is such a group that I donate to that fights the hotel and tourism lobby, Actuiva or something close to that. Right now there is legislation to appeal it but the hotel lobby is stronger then the apartment lobby, they got much deeper pockets, have the ear of government. Our appeal has been delayed. As far as getting on apartment condo boards. That's not going to happen there snooty people running these boards, having a foreigner even at the meeting is a no no. At my building even when I'm in town they have the meetings and don't inform me. They don't want me and my lawyers there. So how you running for the board? Own the entire building you say? Wow what a great Idea, That's to much freaking money. When buying different apartments you have the ability to own all different kinds of places, that appeal to all kinds of different people. It will work itself out or it won't and I'll put these two up for sale and buy into a more friendly building. This is just my two cents. I claim to be no expert on Colombia anything. I'm just happy to have a place to go to besides NY, and Lima.

[LuckyEddie]

Right now there is legislation to appeal it but the hotel lobby is stronger then the apartment lobby, they got much deeper pockets, have the ear of government....
...buy into a more friendly building.So if you buy into a friendlier building you can obviously circumvent that 30 day law or whatever is proposed by the hotel lobby. That may not be a bad idea. If the neighbors are OK and the layout of the property is such that no one is all that bothered.....

[Bbrocs]

So if you buy into a friendlier building you can obviously circumvent that 30 day law or whatever is proposed by the hotel lobby. That may not be a bad idea. If the neighbors are OK and the layout of the property is such that no one is all that bothered.....Of course, but what should be stated that renting over 30 days is entirely legal. Giving someone a written lease for a month and having them stay 15 days and then giving the admin a letter they broke there lease and putting no one else in for the rest of the month is grey area legal. A lot of us did not know this would happen, I bought pre May 1, 2010 and at that time everything was legal. My buddy Rich Haus said to me and lives in Bello, might be the only gringo living there, said nothing is worse then a wealthy Colombian. He was half kidding but the poblado older crowd with some money have such a feeling of entitlement. Makes US snobs look liberal. Lets get back to stories now about pussy please. Enough wallstreet journal.

[Ouzo 12]

I apologize if my post wasn't appropriate for this thread, now chill out, don't blow a gasket!

[Chesscat]

She said she was coming over at 11am on Friday, the 31st, and lo and behold she arrived. We spent some time on the veranda talking. She has blond hair, a musical voice. We ventured to the bedroom. She has a great ass, beautiful face. I worshipped this 19 year old by licking most of her body, the most interesting parts with great gusto. Lately I have taken to using polyurethane condoms with olive oil. So I rubbed her soft skin with olive oil, which she likes, and then nailed her with her lying on her stomach, watching those nalgas respond to my vigorous phuck. A timely and gratifying nut.

Later another called, saying she wanted to come over around 6, it's unusual for them to venture out on the 31st. But she arrived. 18 years old, has a 2 year old, tall, brownish-blond hair, green eyes, nice tits. We talk for a while, then into the bedroom. She has some new fancy ropa interior, which I ask her to remove. Then I ask her to blow me, which she gave to understand is somewhat of an imposition, which just makes it sexier, the image is engraved in my mind. Then I nail her missionary style, she is responsive to a good phuck. Again, a timely wonderful nut.

A twofer is quite special for me. If I ever get caught in Groundhog Day, I hope it's Dec 31, 2010.

[Chesscat]

We ventured out on the 29th of December, a Wednesday. First to La Mayorista, not my personal favorite. I also want to say that I am very much against drugs. Don't do them! Somehow some drugs made their way into my system that night, along with alcohol, which affected my perception et al. (If I ever find those guys!). There was one dude with us who liked to control, and he grabbed a taxista he knew and took us on some type of tour of the badlands. I just recall underpasses, fires (sort of cookouts for the super-underclass) , and as out taxi stopped, ladies and children approaching the vehicle. I didn't understand or appreciate our modus operandi, so I took to calling out Feliz Quinceañera at the little ones. We kept moving, strange sights. We made our way to Fase II, three of us, we had a good time, I met me future ex-wife there, we didn't hook up, but she captivated me, I saw her later in another context and I really like her. Maybe I can be one of her Johns. But she was and is extraordinary.

Fase II closed about 330 or 4, and the other two dudes were going to another hotel, so they kind of left me, or I left them. The drugs that had somehow made their way into my system were affecting my perception perceptibly, but I was having fun. I just wasn't ready for bed.

So I caught a taxi, which dropped me off at Parque Lleras. There is not much happening at Lleras a 4 am, so I sat myself down in the middle. I had on my best clothes, for a guy who travels with one carry-on, which was a leather jacket, black shoes and pants, white shirt, and a miniature I-pod.

My memory is spotty, and my perception was altered.

I found myself with at least three new friends, young kids around me, we all sat down inside the fountain (waterless). The dude on my left kept requesting funds to buy party supplies, which I furnished. He would leave and return and we continued to festejar. And we talked. It's hard for me to believe, literally, but I understood the poor street urchin in front of me belonged to a swim team, and in a couple of days they had a swim meet against Itaguí and Bello. I asked who went to his swim meets, he seemed to say no one but then the guy on my right said he went, he was part of his porra (he was supposed to be his brother or half-brother).

I lent the kid on my right my little ipod and ear pods, and he spend the next eternity listening to them, occasionally I changed the music for him. He was content.

They mentioned the police occasionally, but I never turned around, never paid attention.

We partied extensively, but gradually a silence came over us, lasting for an hour, or more or less. The sun began to rise, us still sitting in the fountain. There seemed to be others at times, shadows coming and going.

As the sun came up they had to leave. The dude on my right gave me back my ipod, The dude on my left, and the swim dude asked me for some breakfast money and some money to pay the toll (?) , which I gave to them.

They left and I was alone. I didn't know where I was, and I sat there for a while just wondering about many things. After who knows how long I stood up, and began to walk. I found a street I knew, and then, almost at the point of giving up, found my apt.

Two nights later, my last night in Medallo, I was wandering around taking photos of the lights and all, and I ate at the Lebanese place in Lleras. A chiclet seller appeared in front of me and I tossed him a coin. He tossed me a little chiclet packet, I said thanks. Later, after I had walked around taking photos, I was walking back through the same area, and I heard someone call my name, the way Hispanics say my name. I couldn't locate the source for a minute, and then I saw the chiclet seller. He was sitting, and he said my name again, with affection, we did the fist bump and I wished him a happy new year. I didn't recognize him, which is strange because the three guys who sat with me I think I know them so well.

We had talked, and talked and talked and became brothers.

The fist bump with the chiclet dude means it was real and really happened. And I think about those guys, and that night, all the time.

I will never forget that night, to the extent that I can remember it.

[Cubfan1963]

I understand there is also some senatorial foot tapping in the bathroom stalls but I'm not really into thatTweedle. Very funny dude. Not sure if everyone got the joke but I appreciated it.

[You Can]

i enjoyed this!


we ventured out on the 29th of december, a wednesday. first to la mayorista, not my personal favorite. i also want to say that i am very much against drugs. don't do them! somehow some drugs made their way into my system that night, along with alcohol, which affected my perception et al. (if i ever find those guys!). there was one dude with us who liked to control, and he grabbed a taxista he knew and took us on some type of tour of the badlands. i just recall underpasses, fires (sort of cookouts for the super-underclass) , and as out taxi stopped, ladies and children approaching the vehicle. i didn't understand or appreciate our modus operandi, so i took to calling out feliz quinceañera at the little ones. we kept moving, strange sights. we made our way to fase ii, three of us, we had a good time, i met me future ex-wife there, we didn't hook up, but she captivated me, i saw her later in another context and i really like her. maybe i can be one of her johns. but she was and is extraordinary.

fase ii closed about 330 or 4, and the other two dudes were going to another hotel, so they kind of left me, or i left them. the drugs that had somehow made their way into my system were affecting my perception perceptibly, but i was having fun. i just wasn't ready for bed.

so i caught a taxi, which dropped me off at parque lleras. there is not much happening at lleras a 4 am, so i sat myself down in the middle. i had on my best clothes, for a guy who travels with one carry-on, which was a leather jacket, black shoes and pants, white shirt, and a miniature i-pod.

my memory is spotty, and my perception was altered.

i found myself with at least three new friends, young kids around me, we all sat down inside the fountain (waterless). the dude on my left kept requesting funds to buy party supplies, which i furnished. he would leave and return and we continued to festejar. and we talked. it's hard for me to believe, literally, but i understood the poor street urchin in front of me belonged to a swim team, and in a couple of days they had a swim meet against itaguí and bello. i asked who went to his swim meets, he seemed to say no one but then the guy on my right said he went, he was part of his porra (he was supposed to be his brother or half-brother).

i lent the kid on my right my little ipod and ear pods, and he spend the next eternity listening to them, occasionally i changed the music for him. he was content.

they mentioned the police occasionally, but i never turned around, never paid attention.

we partied extensively, but gradually a silence came over us, lasting for an hour, or more or less. the sun began to rise, us still sitting in the fountain. there seemed to be others at times, shadows coming and going.

as the sun came up they had to leave. the dude on my right gave me back my ipod, the dude on my left, and the swim dude asked me for some breakfast money and some money to pay the toll (?) , which i gave to them.

they left and i was alone. i didn't know where i was, and i sat there for a while just wondering about many things. after who knows how long i stood up, and began to walk. i found a street i knew, and then, almost at the point of giving up, found my apt.

two nights later, my last night in medallo, i was wandering around taking photos of the lights and all, and i ate at the lebanese place in lleras. a chiclet seller appeared in front of me and i tossed him a coin. he tossed me a little chiclet packet, i said thanks. later, after i had walked around taking photos, i was walking back through the same area, and i heard someone call my name, the way hispanics say my name. i couldn't locate the source for a minute, and then i saw the chiclet seller. he was sitting, and he said my name again, with affection, we did the fist bump and i wished him a happy new year. i didn't recognize him, which is strange because the three guys who sat with me i think i know them so well.

we had talked, and talked and talked and became brothers.

the fist bump with the chiclet dude means it was real and really happened. and i think about those guys, and that night, all the time.

i will never forget that night, to the extent that i can remember it.

[Devoman]

I apologize if my post wasn't appropriate for this thread, now chill out, don't blow a gasket!Ouzo,

You have nothing to apologize about and certainly not to anyone here except maybe Jackson. Many long time members post in the wrong section so no one here is perfect. As far as your original question I have been around this game for a few years and still find great info about flights and travel search engines from other members.

I was a newbie once and like to give back like those who helped me. If you have any questions feel free to post and don't worry about pleasing anyone else.

Devo

[DoloresThomas]

my memory is spotty, and my perception was altered.urban literature. bukowski-like. weird and nice report at the same time. kudos.

[LuckyEddie]

I apologize if my post wasn't appropriate for this thread, now chill out, don't blow a gasket!I post crap all the time, I never blow a gasket. No sweat bro. If you need pointers on how to pack your suitcase post an inventory of the items and the dimensions of the suitcase, maybe post a photos of everything and we'll try to guess the weight and advise on baggage fees. Hey only trying to give back to the community. I keep forgetting not everone is over 25 and has seen an airport.

OK, so I am a sarcastic bastard, don't take me seriously, no one else does.

[Mountain Guy]

My question deals with Medellin, so hopefully it isn't inappropriate in this thread.

I'm coming to Colombia for my first trip in April, flying into Medellin. I've mongered some of the hot spots around the globe and speak ok Spanish. I was thinking about spending part of my trip at the beaches and maybe checking out Cartagena, Santa Marta, etc, but from reading the posts, it sounds expensive and not too good of mongering there.

So do you veterans think I should just stay in Medellin for the whole 15 days, or should I book another flight and check out the playas for a few days?

[Viajero]

My question deals with Medellin, so hopefully it isn't inappropriate in this thread.

I'm coming to Colombia for my first trip in April, flying into Medellin. I've mongered some of the hot spots around the globe and speak ok Spanish. I was thinking about spending part of my trip at the beaches and maybe checking out Cartagena, Santa Marta, etc, but from reading the posts, it sounds expensive and not too good of mongering there.

So do you veterans think I should just stay in Medellin for the whole 15 days, or should I book another flight and check out the playas for a few days?Stay in Medellin

[Manizales911]

My question deals with Medellin, so hopefully it isn't inappropriate in this thread.

I'm coming to Colombia for my first trip in April, flying into Medellin. I've mongered some of the hot spots around the globe and speak ok Spanish. I was thinking about spending part of my trip at the beaches and maybe checking out Cartagena, Santa Marta, etc, but from reading the posts, it sounds expensive and not too good of mongering there.

So do you veterans think I should just stay in Medellin for the whole 15 days, or should I book another flight and check out the playas for a few days?Cartagena has excellent mongering, I can't speak of Santa Marta as I haven't been. Cartagena CAN be expensive if you let it be, do your homework and it isn't much more than many other places, a bargain basement mongers location it is not but it can be reasonable if you know what you are doing. Some of the hottest girls in the country "work" in Cartagena.

[You Can]

I would definitely check out Cartagena, I think its good for getting women. As far as expensive, I don't know how it compares to Medellin. I usually estimate 4 to 500. US per day. That includes money for the room and all other expenses, other then airfare. But I am a big drinker and party like a mad man in Cartagena. I am heading down there the 15th of February and hope to spend a couple days in Santa Marta, if I find the right girl to take with me.


My question deals with Medellin, so hopefully it isn't inappropriate in this thread.

I'm coming to Colombia for my first trip in April, flying into Medellin. I've mongered some of the hot spots around the globe and speak ok Spanish. I was thinking about spending part of my trip at the beaches and maybe checking out Cartagena, Santa Marta, etc, but from reading the posts, it sounds expensive and not too good of mongering there.

So do you veterans think I should just stay in Medellin for the whole 15 days, or should I book another flight and check out the playas for a few days?

[Combo]

Cartagena is definitely worth checking out. The old city is beautiful and there is tons of mongering available. However, you should know ahead of time that the beach is not very nice.

[Manizales911]

we ventured out on the 29th of december, a wednesday. first to la mayorista, not my personal favorite. i also want to say that i am very much against drugs. don't do them! somehow some drugs made their way into my system that night, along with alcohol, which affected my perception et al. (if i ever find those guys!). there was one dude with us who liked to control, and he grabbed a taxista he knew and took us on some type of tour of the badlands. i just recall underpasses, fires (sort of cookouts for the super-underclass) , and as out taxi stopped, ladies and children approaching the vehicle. i didn't understand or appreciate our modus operandi, so i took to calling out feliz quinceañera at the little ones. we kept moving, strange sights. we made our way to fase ii, three of us, we had a good time, i met me future ex-wife there, we didn't hook up, but she captivated me, i saw her later in another context and i really like her. maybe i can be one of her johns. but she was and is extraordinary.

fase ii closed about 330 or 4, and the other two dudes were going to another hotel, so they kind of left me, or i left them. the drugs that had somehow made their way into my system were affecting my perception perceptibly, but i was having fun. i just wasn't ready for bed.

so i caught a taxi, which dropped me off at parque lleras. there is not much happening at lleras a 4 am, so i sat myself down in the middle. i had on my best clothes, for a guy who travels with one carry-on, which was a leather jacket, black shoes and pants, white shirt, and a miniature i-pod.

my memory is spotty, and my perception was altered.

i found myself with at least three new friends, young kids around me, we all sat down inside the fountain (waterless). the dude on my left kept requesting funds to buy party supplies, which i furnished. he would leave and return and we continued to festejar. and we talked. it's hard for me to believe, literally, but i understood the poor street urchin in front of me belonged to a swim team, and in a couple of days they had a swim meet against itaguí and bello. i asked who went to his swim meets, he seemed to say no one but then the guy on my right said he went, he was part of his porra (he was supposed to be his brother or half-brother).

i lent the kid on my right my little ipod and ear pods, and he spend the next eternity listening to them, occasionally i changed the music for him. he was content.

they mentioned the police occasionally, but i never turned around, never paid attention.

we partied extensively, but gradually a silence came over us, lasting for an hour, or more or less. the sun began to rise, us still sitting in the fountain. there seemed to be others at times, shadows coming and going.

as the sun came up they had to leave. the dude on my right gave me back my ipod, the dude on my left, and the swim dude asked me for some breakfast money and some money to pay the toll (?) , which i gave to them.

they left and i was alone. i didn't know where i was, and i sat there for a while just wondering about many things. after who knows how long i stood up, and began to walk. i found a street i knew, and then, almost at the point of giving up, found my apt.

two nights later, my last night in medallo, i was wandering around taking photos of the lights and all, and i ate at the lebanese place in lleras. a chiclet seller appeared in front of me and i tossed him a coin. he tossed me a little chiclet packet, i said thanks. later, after i had walked around taking photos, i was walking back through the same area, and i heard someone call my name, the way hispanics say my name. i couldn't locate the source for a minute, and then i saw the chiclet seller. he was sitting, and he said my name again, with affection, we did the fist bump and i wished him a happy new year. i didn't recognize him, which is strange because the three guys who sat with me i think i know them so well.

we had talked, and talked and talked and became brothers.

the fist bump with the chiclet dude means it was real and really happened. and i think about those guys, and that night, all the time.

i will never forget that night, to the extent that i can remember it. nice story but walking around at 4 a. m. with an ipod and a camera anywhere in colombia is just not smart dude.

[Abril]

How do you find these places, without getting into foot tapping?


Not if you smash a good Brazilian or Venezuelan escort during your layover in Miami! The area around the airport is crawling with love hotels and incall escort locations. Trust me, I used to live and work in the heart of it all. Of course, I understand wanting to avoid the stress of leaving the airport and then having to re-do the whole security screening drama.

Rodeo

[Member #4161]

Cartagena has excellent mongering, I can't speak of Santa Marta as I haven't been. Cartagena CAN be expensive if you let it be, do your homework and it isn't much more than many other places, a bargain basement mongers location it is not but it can be reasonable if you know what you are doing. Some of the hottest girls in the country "work" in Cartagena.The bottom line is Cartagena is very expensive for everything compared to any of the other major cities in Colombia. You can figure the prices of lodging, food, partying, the girls, is all double or triple what you will find in any of the other major cities in Colombia. DO NOT let anyone tell you differently, and I have been in Cartagena more times than I can even remember. I have seen many cheap asses come to Cartagena thinking they could get by on one hundred fifty to two hundred dollars a day, and be able to party on the beach during the day, and go to the bars like LDV at night, be able to entertain girls, and in a couple days they were dead ass broke, spending the rest of the days in an apartment, using the few pesos they had left for food, and taxi fare to get back to the airport.

When I am referring to the one hundred and fifty, to two hundred dollars a day, this is for food and entertainment only, lodging and transportation is additional. The only way you can get by cheaper is if you do not buy any food, drinks, during the day on the beach, or if you do not spend any money for drinks in the bars at night. Basically what I am saying is, the only way to get by under the amount of money I stated is if you buy a bottle of booze and drink only in your apartment, or if you eat at the cheapest places you can find. The girls alone want one hundred dollars. If you like to party, then be prepared to spend three to five hundred dollars a day for food, transportation, nightlife entertainment, and of course the girls. If you cannot afford that, then stay in Medellin, Cali, or Bogota, where you can have a great time for a third, or half that amount. Also, if you are thinking about going to Cartagena for the beach, you will more than likely find yourself very disappointed, as most of it has been washed out in the ocean, see the pic that was posted the other day in the Cartagena thread, and the water is dirty as dirty can be.

If you do come to Cartagena, and go to Playa Hollywood, and see a big overweight guy smoking a cigar that just might be me, even though I am working hard to slim down these days, as that was my New Years resolution, or just ask Tony if Jeff is around. The first drinks of your choice will be on me! (smile) The smilies do not seem to be working.

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My question deals with Medellin, so hopefully it isn't inappropriate in this thread.

I'm coming to Colombia for my first trip in April, flying into Medellin. I've mongered some of the hot spots around the globe and speak ok Spanish. I was thinking about spending part of my trip at the beaches and maybe checking out Cartagena, Santa Marta, etc, but from reading the posts, it sounds expensive and not too good of mongering there.

So do you veterans think I should just stay in Medellin for the whole 15 days, or should I book another flight and check out the playas for a few days? If the purpose of your trip is only sleeping, drinking alcool and mongering, than CTG is too expensive *just for that. You can stay in MDE and limit your walks to the route between hotel and casas.

In all other cases, missing to visit Cartagena would be a real shame. CTG is a wonderful place and the Centro itself is one of the Unesco World Heritage sites. Yes, more expensive, but my suggestions are:

- You can stay in a nice hotel of the Centro, enjoying the atmosphere and still playing at night. I spend 80-100 USD / day for a cozy hotelito, where I do not bring girls. Decent places are available for less.

- You can eat very good food for 50USD in a good restaurant in the Centro (not top notch). Spend less if you are ok with plain food.

- Plan 200k COP for a good girl. Save your money for the girls and do not drink more than 1-2 (but they cost 10k-15k, not so much).

- Avoid to spend your day drinking on Playa Hollywood. It's a waste of time and money (unless you don't want to spend your budget for a good seafood dinner in cocktails and not much more)

I would go to CTG for minimum 3 days. Read my FR on the CTG forum for details about my way of enjoying CTG.

(Just my very personal opinion, of course. Lots of people in this forum will disagree)