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I don't see any mention of the Medellin Mansion anymore. Is it still operating? IF so, has it changed in some way? Back in the day, at least a third of the discussion on the Medellin forum was about the Mansion....It's been mentioned recently.
Why not just stay at the Mansion? Totally safe, every girl who enters is registered and ID checked, girls hanging out daytime, on premise club with girls, most guests don't speak english so girls are google translate familiar, etc. Seems so much easier for your situation.
So, a Tinder hit. Age listed as 21. Asked me for 400,000 COP. I asked if she was special. She sent me a "question mark". I told her that was a lot. She said: "Ok, Fue un gusto". End of conversation.
Elvis 2008
06-14-23, 05:36
Well many of the newcomers here don't know how it was here prior to the Pandemic and don't need to adapt meaning adjusting to the new conditions.
Hence when they see all the posts by guys who have been here awhile, who are complaining, myself included, I understand where their coming from.
All the bitching and moaning about the past does no good.
Albeit at least I have some very fond memories of perhaps what one might call a bygone era here with the turning point being the Pandemic.Surfer, I was there pre-pandemic and right afterwards. You were too right? Those two or three months after the lockdowns ended were the greatest months of pussy I had ever had. There was no way it was going to stay like that. You had the lockdowns for 9 months right? When that ended, the women were ready to fuck anyone or anything.
GringoAdvent
06-14-23, 07:31
Are there any groups (discord, here, FB, etc) for planning on meeting up for drinks?
I'll be engaging in my 3rd tour. Always been solo, but would like to meet people this time. I'm 25 and work remotely.
Surfer, I was there pre-pandemic and right afterwards. You were too right? Those two or three months after the lockdowns ended were the greatest months of pussy I had ever had. There was no way it was going to stay like that. You had the lockdowns for 9 months right? When that ended, the women were ready to fuck anyone or anything.Yes I left four days before the lockdown and returned when Colombia opened back up 8 months later. My friends here told me how horrific things where here and having to stay holed up.
I'm glad I left because I would of went stir crazy. I returned before the vaccines came out in November and it was totally crazy pussy wise as you describe.
Conceptually speaking for all the new comers here, meaning post pandemic guys, imagine all the pussy available with few foreign and local clients.
The locals at this time were very cash poor with no disposable income being shut out of work, so Centro was like being at a Dollar store.
A buyers market for sure, but that changed rapidly when Colombia was wide open, and SEA and the rest of the World was shut down and mongers from all over the World started showing up here in droves.
This is the worst change in my opinion as to what has happened here.
Albeit Medellin was getting increased monger attention before the Pandemic, if there had been no Pandemic, there would be a lot less mongers here today.
And for all the new mongers showing up here, and seeing how inexpensive it is, and how good it can be, a lot of them aren't going back to SEA, and I don't blame them, albeit I always enjoyed going there.
Just had my 1st trip to COL in BOG which was awesome and of course have my eyes set on MDE, CAR. Is it generally true that club girls in MDE cost more than BOG? While I can't find consistent rates factoring in time, I'm reading that more often MDE will have girls quoting $150, $200+ for sessions. My 2 Santa Fe / BOG visits I was reliably getting quotes for 90 K-110 K ($26 max) for 20 min sessions, so $80 an hour. And I'm pretty stingy on only conventionally attractive girls (fit or enhanced), so it wasn't the street urchins. They didn't have the immaculate super model looks, but these were from legit 8's 9's Even the Eroticas Bogotas site, which does MDE girls too, was around 330 K per hour so near $100/ HR adding in some extras.
Is there truly inflation in MDE vs BOG? Would make sense from posts I see about the gringos in MDE, while in BOG I saw zero foreigners. Plus Santa Fe / BOG can be very sketchy and from YouTube videos it seems the club areas of Poblado like Gusto Isla are a little safer and more "luxury". Planning my next trip, so while MDE seems worth at least 1 gamble, BOG is far easier to get to for a short 3 day trip as I'm able to get a direct flight, vs always losing 1 day and stress for connections in SAm for MDE.
MaddTraveler
06-14-23, 16:50
Just had my 1st trip to COL in BOG which was awesome and of course have my eyes set on MDE, CAR. Is it generally true that club girls in MDE cost more than BOG? While I can't find consistent rates factoring in time, I'm reading that more often MDE will have girls quoting $150, $200+ for sessions. My 2 Santa Fe / BOG visits I was reliably getting quotes for 90 K-110 K ($26 max) for 20 min sessions, so $80 an hour. And I'm pretty stingy on only conventionally attractive girls (fit or enhanced), so it wasn't the street urchins. They didn't have the immaculate super model looks, but these were from legit 8's 9's Even the Eroticas Bogotas site, which does MDE girls too, was around 330 K per hour so near $100/ HR adding in some extras.
Is there truly inflation in MDE vs BOG? Would make sense from posts I see about the gringos in MDE, while in BOG I saw zero foreigners. Plus Santa Fe / BOG can be very sketchy and from YouTube videos it seems the club areas of Poblado like Gusto Isla are a little safer and more "luxury". Planning my next trip, so while MDE seems worth at least 1 gamble, BOG is far easier to get to for a short 3 day trip as I'm able to get a direct flight, vs always losing 1 day and stress for connections in SAm for MDE.Once in a blue I reply only to help fellow readers from being confused or getting bad intel. You can't compare Santa Fe Bogota with Parque Lleras in El Poblado Medellin. Are you high? Those two areas shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
Santa Fe in Bogota is a dirty street, it is quite safe although it looks like it may not be. The place in Medellin it compares to is El Centro, Medellin. Now pricings will be similar and Medellin is even cheaper in the streeets. Clubs in el centro Medellin like barra ejecutiva competes with Santa's Fe's Troya / fiebre (def more in Santa Fe) with similar costs for drinks and girls.
So it's El Centro Medellin Vs Santa Fe Bogota = They will compete hard in terms of cost and street girls availability and clubs.
Gusto and other semi upscale clubs in Medellin cannot be compared to anything in Bogota, since there's no Gringo central area like El Poblado Medellin. But if you need to visit upscale clubs in Bogota, there are many and they're just spread out especially north (Chapinero, Zona G etc), where you will pay easily $150-$500 usd hourly plus club fee to take out. Way more upscale and ridiculously expensive than Medellin.
But honestly many gringos and old skool mongers prefer Bog since it's low key, rarely any gringo or weekend warriors in sight since those fools don't know how to navigate Bogota, it's a huge city, which I also like. In Bogota you have to worry less about seeing yourself in a youtube video like you will in El Poblado LOL.
Once you take away the gringo avail effect from any city, prices are similar, so no real inflation. The price diff you see is just Stupid gringos being taken advantage of by smart hawkers everywhere. That is all.
Once in a blue I reply only to help fellow readers from being confused or getting bad intel. You can't compare Santa Fe Bogota with Parque Lleras in El Poblado Medellin. Are you high? Those two areas shouldn't even be in the same sentence.
Santa Fe in Bogota is a dirty street, it is quite safe although it looks like it may not be. The place in Medellin it compares to is El Centro, Medellin. Now pricings will be similar and Medellin is even cheaper in the streeets. Clubs in el centro Medellin like barra ejecutiva competes with Santa's Fe's Troya / fiebre (def more in Santa Fe) with similar costs for drinks and girls.
So it's El Centro Medellin Vs Santa Fe Bogota = They will compete hard in terms of cost and street girls availability and clubs.
Gusto and other semi upscale clubs in Medellin cannot be compared to anything in Bogota, since there's no Gringo central area like El Poblado Medellin. But if you need to visit upscale clubs in Bogota, there are many and they're just spread out especially north (Chapinero, Zona G etc), where you will pay easily $150-$500 usd hourly plus club fee to take out. Way more upscale and ridiculously expensive than Medellin.
But honestly many gringos and old skool mongers prefer Bog since it's low key, rarely any gringo or weekend warriors in sight since those fools don't know how to navigate Bogota, it's a huge city, which I also like. In Bogota you have to worry less about seeing yourself in a youtube video like you will in El Poblado LOL.
Once you take away the gringo avail effect from any city, prices are similar, so no real inflation. The price diff you see is just Stupid gringos being taken advantage of by smart hawkers everywhere. That is all.I appreciate the elaboration for the well thought out answer. As I wrote I've never been to MDE and only went to BOG 1 x so being eager for another trip I wanted to get my bearings. I've had mixed DMs and posts I read so I am appreciative, I didn't think my question was propagating anything. I avoided in BOG the upscale north spots like Lido due to some reports quoting 500-800 K rates. Plus I know I'm going to get fleeced with gringo tax. I'm MIA & ATL based where it's not hard to get $600/ HR, so I'm trying to be well under $200 factoring in travel costs / time. With the varied reports I was unsure. I'm definitely a "safe" club guy, and expected avg talent in SF but there was a good numbers of stunners that stopped me in tracks. So if the Poblados / Gustos are a clear tier higher in talent that makes me even more excited for MDE. Only thing I can do is nut up like every one else & see for myself. Again I appreciate the lay out because before my impression of Centro was that it was low quality, but if it's on equal footing as SF which exceeded my expectations.
DonMedellin
06-15-23, 02:36
In the mood for a hot MILF. If anyone knows one (30's to low 40's), good shape, not too much tattoos, please dm me. Thanks!
TexasPistol
06-15-23, 04:22
None of the people that I know that have been drugged were offered free sex. They were paying, but got more than they bargained for.Any links to any first hand accounts here, on youtube, in the media in Spanish or English? I belong to a facebook group for Medellin drugging victims. They've never heard of a problem with a working girl. It's always "I'm 56 from Dallas and I met this hot 20 year old Colombian girl on tinder. We went to her apartment etc" You know the rest.
In the mood for a hot MILF. If anyone knows one (30's to low 40's), good shape, not too much tattoos, please dm me. Thanks!New to ISG but not to USASG, any intel would be appreciated.
I haven't been in Medellin since 2019, so I'm wondering how things are currently. For the El Centro and Lleras girls, is kissing standard, like DFK, or do I have to ask for it? Is BBBJ still standard or do I have to ask for it? Generally, how are the girls about taking pics or videos? (of course, I ask in the room, not on the street). Tijuana girls won't let me kiss the nipples. That's not a problem in MDE right?
DondeSea72
06-15-23, 10:33
My Spanish tutor lives in Bogota and told me the story of the 4 children aged 13 to 1 that survived for 40 days in the Jungle. The baby was only 11 months old and they all had no food or water and just survived. The 11 month old is a little girl. I'm a million percent sure that she is the toughest baby in the world. I wonder what she thinks this world is? Those kids are so brave they should be offered US citizenship by default. We need people like them. The more I read about this story the more amazed I become. Supposedly a dog found the children but got lost and they are searching for the dog now / still. I have basic survival skills ie find water, make shelter but I don't think I'the last more than 7 days. It's an amazing true story.
Hey fellas!
Its been about 5 years since my last trip to Medellin. I was planning a post-Covid return. Been reading the forum a bit.
I don't see any mention of the Medellin Mansion anymore. Is it still operating? IF so, has it changed in some way? Back in the day, at least a third of the discussion on the Medellin forum was about the Mansion.
I realize that this question may come off as clueless if its old news. But I love that place. I hope it didn't close.
Thanks in advance!I hear the Castillo is a private residence now.
Any recommendations for a dentist? I just need a routine cleaning and if they can do x-rays n shit that would be great too. Been a few years since I been to the dentist.I have had very good experience with: Natural Odontologia, Laureles, Circular 2 #71 39.
You can make an appointment via Whatsapp.
They put in 2 new crowns for me, it was fast, cheap and good work in my opinion.
As I remember, the cleaning was about 120.000 COP.
DonMedellin
06-15-23, 17:05
A lot of girls I've met are from Bello. Has any of you actually been to Bello? Jardin botanico is as far north as I've been in Medellin. Would like to check out Bello, would I run into issues walking around there as a gringo? If you want to join me, send a dm.
The Tall Man
06-15-23, 17:16
A lot of girls I've met are from Bello. Has any of you actually been to Bello? Jardin botanico is as far north as I've been in Medellin. Would like to check out Bello, would I run into issues walking around there as a gringo? If you want to join me, send a dm.I have been to just about every part of Bello at sometime in the past dozen years so "Been there and Done that" time and again, matter of fact I will be there this afternoon. Last night was in Manrique with some local party barrio novias, got to love the barrio chicas. Get out of Medellin and certainly the hell hole Poblado.
TTM.
A lot of girls I've met are from Bello. Has any of you actually been to Bello? Would like to check out Bello, would I run into issues walking around there as a gringo?Have been out there many times. Parque Obrero is where I usually go. Its a Zona Rosa with many clubs and bars. Lots of local talent around. I felt as safe there as I do in any other location in MDE. Manrique, El Centro, Barrio Antioquia, Itague, Boston, Campo Valdes, Castilla. That is to say I felt pretty safe.
NapataJohn
06-15-23, 18:52
Have been out there many times. Parque Obrero is where I usually go. Its a Zona Rosa with many clubs and bars. Lots of local talent around. I felt as safe there as I do in any other location in MDE. Manrique, El Centro, Barrio Antioquia, Itague, Boston, Campo Valdes, Castilla. That is to say I felt pretty safe.https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/el-coctel-que-se-ha-llevado-la-vida-de-los-extranjeros-en-medellin-BD19380742
RainCity206
06-15-23, 22:17
I have been to just about every part of Bello at sometime in the past dozen years so "Been there and Done that" time and again, matter of fact I will be there this afternoon. Last night was in Manrique with some local party barrio novias, got to love the barrio chicas. Get out of Medellin and certainly the hell hole Poblado.
TTM.How does one join you for these barrio parties? I love getting out of the tourist areas and will be back in Medellin next week.
In the mood for a hot MILF. If anyone knows one (30's to low 40's), good shape, not too much tattoos, please dm me. Thanks!Sounds like my Manrique MILF jajaja.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/el-coctel-que-se-ha-llevado-la-vida-de-los-extranjeros-en-medellin-BD19380742Not sure why you posted this in relation to a question about safety in Bello. Does Bello have a higher murder rate or criime rate?
I will travel solo to Medellin and want to join a sex tourist group. Basically, arrange me for to visit nightclubs, and hunt girls?
Could anybody suggest some webpage or links so that I can find one, or a sex tourist guide?
In addition, could you point me the website for Mansion and how is the quality of girls there? I will only stay for two days, so I want to find a place with deterministic good-quality girls.
Thank you!
John Gault
06-16-23, 19:19
My Spanish tutor lives in Bogota and told me the story of the 4 children aged 13 to 1 that survived for 40 days in the Jungle. The baby was only 11 months old and they all had no food or water and just survived. The 11 month old is a little girl. I'm a million percent sure that she is the toughest baby in the world. I wonder what she thinks this world is? Those kids are so brave they should be offered US citizenship by default. We need people like them. The more I read about this story the more amazed I become. Supposedly a dog found the children but got lost and they are searching for the dog now / still. I have basic survival skills ie find water, make shelter but I don't think I'the last more than 7 days. It's an amazing true story.If you have water, that is the main thing. People go on complete water fasts for over a month. Myself I have fasted for 7 days with no problem. Your right those kids were awesome. I bet the leader of the group was the key.
Looking for recent reports or feedback on swinger clubs. Old threads are outdated. Thanks.
I will travel solo to Medellin and want to join a sex tourist group. Basically, arrange me for to visit nightclubs, and hunt girls?
Could anybody suggest some webpage or links so that I can find one, or a sex tourist guide?
In addition, could you point me the website for Mansion and how is the quality of girls there? I will only stay for two days, so I want to find a place with deterministic good-quality girls.
Thank you!What you are asking for is not something you will probably find. These sorts of groups cross the line of what is legal, and I think it is safe to say that authorities wish they would cease to exist, so whether legal or not they will bring trouble on themselves. Sex tourism is considered an "evil" by general society there. So the closest to a webpage or guide you will find is this forum, where people merely share their experiences but are not doing it for profit or for personal gain of any kind.
As for the mansion I don't have the website off the top of my head, but it is easy to find if you search under the Casa Blanca thread or probably in several other threads. I don't know what you mean by "deterministic good quality girls". Quality is very individual, and no two people will have the same experience. No one tells them what they need to do or provide, they are totally independent and so there is no way to assure you of anything on that.
ILoveColombia
06-17-23, 21:29
I look for erotic models for casting, from a curious girl doing a one-timer to a model / s for long-term contract term contract.
Typically Pocahontas girls 9-10, even super-voluptous girls are welcome or blonded girls with brown / dark eyes.
Success means leaving poverty fo life, while one time meetings for 100-250 not really solve anything for a girl here.
The stigma doing prno is nothing to compared before the Pandemic.
Are the the moment collecting the principal and planning all legal, technical, administraitve, promotion that ash to be done.
If you know any such girl that would be interested, please PM me.
Pierre.
Husker Dude
06-17-23, 23:02
I will travel solo to Medellin and want to join a sex tourist group. Basically, arrange me for to visit nightclubs, and hunt girls?
Could anybody suggest some webpage or links so that I can find one, or a sex tourist guide?
In addition, could you point me the website for Mansion and how is the quality of girls there? I will only stay for two days, so I want to find a place with deterministic good-quality girls.
Thank you!The Mansion - hotelmedellinplaza.com , email them for room availability.
ILoveColombia
06-18-23, 14:17
What you are asking for is not something you will probably find. These sorts of groups cross the line of what is legal, and I think it is safe to say that authorities wish they would cease to exist, so whether legal or not they will bring trouble on themselves. Sex tourism is considered an "evil" by general society there. So the closest to a webpage or guide you will find is this forum, where people merely share their experiences but are not doing it for profit or for personal gain of any kind.
As for the mansion I don't have the website off the top of my head, but it is easy to find if you search under the Casa Blanca thread or probably in several other threads. I don't know what you mean by "deterministic good quality girls". Quality is very individual, and no two people will have the same experience. No one tells them what they need to do or provide, they are totally independent and so there is no way to assure you of anything on that.
What you are asking for is not something you will probably find. These sorts of groups cross the line of what is legal, and I think it is safe to say that authorities wish they would cease to exist, so whether legal or not they will bring trouble on themselves. Sex tourism is considered an "evil" by general society there. So the closest to a webpage or guide you will find is this forum, where people merely share their experiences but are not doing it for profit or for personal gain of any kind.
As for the mansion I don't have the website off the top of my head, but it is easy to find if you search under the Casa Blanca thread or probably in several other threads. I don't know what you mean by "deterministic good quality girls". Quality is very individual, and no two people will have the same experience. No one tells them what they need to do or provide, they are totally independent and so there is no way to assure you of anything on that.On Colombian-Cupid there are girl active all the time looking for short term meetings. This site is officially a romance site but many many of the girls are both easy available, not to expensive and often very beautiful.
You need Spanish at medium level otherwise it will be very frustrating to communicate.
No group or mansion are necessary, girls today are their own bosses and you can ask a girl in the street, on social media, romance site, whatever; there are +4 million people in Greater Medellin, 2 million females, the group 18-35 is a huge part of he population, but they are also many multiples more since they come to Medellin from villages or small towns or other cities so maybe girls 18-35 looking good and looking for any opportunities are 5 times more than in a normal for a city in Colombia. Its like a magnet!
Authorities and society, employers in general pay so low wages that beauty, sensuality, elegance, fitness becomes much more important than in a normal Western society. The pretty girls get they money.
Around 75% are poor at least, 25% don't need your money and live middle-class lives. But even among middle-class girls, many want more money, vacations, expensive gifts, especially from tourists and high level positioned guys. Prepagismo is not the exact th same as prostitution, itäs often a kind a side project, even if they have a BF or husband, it's built in the culture since decades if not centuries. There are maybe 50,000-100,000 9-s, 10-s in Medellin 18-35 offering their services. Hard to calculate, but too many to handle. My estimate is probably to low!
Many semi-prepagos can be converted to GF and future wife. There are also an enourmous amount of webcam models. They you can offer some of them a meeting IRL and get it!. There are no real boundaries, limits between novia, webcam-model, prepago, girls here just act short there since life here is so insecure and it has been so since. Ever. But of course, there a cadre of 25-35% that are really serious!
Girls you can get in any poor country, but the difference is that in Medellin the majority is BEAUTIFUL, not ugly! And often very nice to be with. Costenas are even more nicer, though not nearly so beautiful, , but the Caribbean heat is simply too much.
Medellin also has a lot of other things to offer; the 80-90% of the time, when you are not thinking or being with girls there are both interesting and fun things to do. And the climate is simply perfect, 365 days a year.
What you are asking for is not something you will probably find. These sorts of groups cross the line of what is legal, and I think it is safe to say that authorities wish they would cease to exist, so whether legal or not they will bring trouble on themselves. Sex tourism is considered an "evil" by general society there. So the closest to a webpage or guide you will find is this forum, where people merely share their experiences but are not doing it for profit or for personal gain of any kind.
As for the mansion I don't have the website off the top of my head, but it is easy to find if you search under the Casa Blanca thread or probably in several other threads. I don't know what you mean by "deterministic good quality girls". Quality is very individual, and no two people will have the same experience. No one tells them what they need to do or provide, they are totally independent and so there is no way to assure you of anything on that.Thank you so much for the information. ""deterministic good quality girls", I mean a place where there are plenty of girls, and I can anyway have a very large chance to find 1-2 girls that are my type or at least at medium quality, just like FKK sharks. I do not want to go a place where I stay for a whole night, but can only find undesired girls (e. G. Fat, or not good-looking, etc.)
Thanks again!
NapataJohn
06-18-23, 16:19
On Colombian-Cupid there are girl active all the time looking for short term meetings. This site is officially a romance site but many many of the girls are both easy available, not to expensive and often very beautiful..Make sure to lookout for your safety slightly more.
Girls you can get in any poor country, but the difference is that in Medellin the majority is BEAUTIFUL, not ugly!
Haha, I get the impression that you are looking at a website of beautiful young women and thinking to yourself that all women in Medellin look like that. If you go out on the streets of a regular barrio and look dispassionately at the people that are there, I think you would have a different opinion.
Thank you so much for the information. ""deterministic good quality girls", I mean a place where there are plenty of girls, and I can anyway have a very large chance to find 1-2 girls that are my type or at least at medium quality, just like FKK sharks. I do not want to go a place where I stay for a whole night, but can only find undesired girls (e. G. Fat, or not good-looking, etc.)
Who could possibly know what are "girls that are my type" and "undesired girls"? I suggest you try out the places that have the largest number of options.
The Tall Man
06-18-23, 17:51
On Colombian-Cupid there are girl active all the time looking for short term meetings. This site is officially a romance site but many many of the girls are both easy available, not to expensive and often very beautiful.
You need Spanish at medium level otherwise it will be very frustrating to communicate.
No group or mansion are necessary, girls today are their own bosses and you can ask a girl in the street, on social media, romance site, whatever; there are +4 million people in Greater Medellin, 2 million females, the group 18-35 is a huge part of he population, but they are also many multiples more since they come to Medellin from villages or small towns or other cities so maybe girls 18-35 looking good and looking for any opportunities are 5 times more than in a normal for a city in Colombia. Its like a magnet!
Authorities and society, employers in general pay so low wages that beauty, sensuality, elegance, fitness becomes much more important than in a normal Western society. The pretty girls get they money.Agreed, well said and accurate description of CC websites.
TTM.
Who could possibly know what are "girls that are my type" and "undesired girls"? I suggest you try out the places that have the largest number of options.Or else do a crawl / hop to widen your options.
ILoveColombia
06-18-23, 21:23
Haha, I get the impression that you are looking at a website of beautiful young women and thinking to yourself that all women in Medellin look like that. If you go out on the streets of a regular barrio and look dispassionately at the people that are there, I think you would have a different opinion.A normal paisa is often just a normal girl, yes.
But the amount, percentage of the good looking one's, they are many times prepagos, often part-time, paying their bills, for their kids, for vacation.
In that respect Medellin has the best supply in the world. ; the percentage of young people of the population, the influx from minor cities.
And the attitude; they not think it mean so much. I have have novias that I understood had other guys, I have had prepagos that wanted to be with just one guy and choose me (for a while), one time almost marriage. Being webcam girl among sexy paisas is kind kind of normal.
2019 I went to a de luxe casa near Girardot stadium; one lived at circular 3, I lived at Circular 2, like 100 meters between "we are neighbours, she said", another close to the condominium of my friend in sala-canz. In Buenos Aires the corresporent girl would be a 5-6 girl from a distant province!
But yes, at La UPB, "The Boulevard", where I study Spanish or Exito, the girls looks normal. But visit a expensive gym like Bodytech, it was filled with fit girls in small tight outfits, at 6-7 am before university / work!
The difference is that in Medellin a 9 or 10 in her 20's or early 30's can say YES and mean it, both ST or long term relationship, that is like another world, here in Scandinavia we have beautiful girls, but the chance of getting a decent GF is so much smaller, the process especially is much more complicated.
Colombian and Brazilian girls are very hygienical, but they have not anxiety for having sex, as long as you have equally good hygiene. I would say; being a gentleman and having impeccable hygiene are two underrated factors. The real luxury girl often / always demands prices that are un-realistic, but they are a small part of the supply. Bartenders in Parque Lleras or La 70, waitresses, neighbours. Just overcome the western typical anxiety to ask and you can have many many girls, more than you can handle.
I lived at Apartahotel Montes 2013-2018 6 times and the businessmen had a lot of girl short term. The female that cleaned my "aparta-estudio" hinted of having sex and a few times we made it since I loved to stay in that big jaccuzzi and well they came in at 9 am or 10 am for cleaning, and I was, "just come in". They where good looking, as I understood some got fired for being to much with the hotels clients!
I will travel solo to Medellin and want to join a sex tourist group. Basically, arrange me for to visit nightclubs, and hunt girls?
Could anybody suggest some webpage or links so that I can find one, or a sex tourist guide?
In addition, could you point me the website for Mansion and how is the quality of girls there? I will only stay for two days, so I want to find a place with deterministic good-quality girls.
Thank you!Better to look for others on this site to go with or meet up with some guys at the mansion who know the game. The map (look at other links for 'Medellin Map') probably has 75% of the casas and clubs. More 'official' Sex tourist guides and websites were popping up 8-10 years ago, but drew the wrath of the government and some gangs. Most stopped doing it, were thrown in jail, or shot (I'm serious). Not something you want to be a part of.
ILoveColombia
06-18-23, 21:32
Better to look for others on this site to go with or meet up with some guys at the mansion who know the game. The map (look at other links for 'Medellin Map') probably has 75% of the casas and clubs. More 'official' Sex tourist guides and websites were popping up 8-10 years ago, but drew the wrath of the government and some gangs. Most stopped doing it, were thrown in jail, or shot (I'm serious). Not something you want to be a part of.Foreigners being killed in Medellin some years ago was al related to their interference in the local business-hierchy of prepagos and drugs, otherwise you risk no more here than in any other place.
I will travel solo to Medellin and want to join a sex tourist group. Basically, arrange me for to visit nightclubs, and hunt girls?
Could anybody suggest some webpage or links so that I can find one, or a sex tourist guide?
In addition, could you point me the website for Mansion and how is the quality of girls there? I will only stay for two days, so I want to find a place with deterministic good-quality girls.
Thank you!You probably don't want to label yourself as a "sex tourist. " It's a pejorative that that can lead people to think underage or anything else forbidden. It's out there no need to have "sex tourist" on your forehead.
Pascal1111
06-19-23, 02:54
Hello everyone,
I will be travelling to Medellin for a week later next month and was hoping for some advice on the best place to bring girls near El Poblado. I've decided to stay in a hotel. I don't feel comfortable paying the hotel fees or getting a reputation for being a monger at the hotel I stay at long term and I've read too many horror stories here to bring a girl into the same room with my passport / money / valuables. I exclusively plan to hire higher end girls off websites and am ethnically Latino if that makes any difference. My Spanish isn't perfect but I should be able to communicate what I need to effectively.
Are there any love hotels nearby the El Poblado area that people here can recommend? Would it be better to travel further out? I've tried searching the thread for recommendations already, by the way.
AfternoonSnack
06-19-23, 03:34
Hello everyone,
I will be travelling to Medellin for a week later next month and was hoping for some advice on the best place to bring girls near El Poblado. I've decided to stay in a hotel. I don't feel comfortable paying the hotel fees or getting a reputation for being a monger at the hotel I stay at long term and I've read too many horror stories here to bring a girl into the same room with my passport / money / valuables. I exclusively plan to hire higher end girls off websites and am ethnically Latino if that makes any difference. My Spanish isn't perfect but I should be able to communicate what I need to effectively.
Are there any love hotels nearby the El Poblado area that people here can recommend? Would it be better to travel further out? I've tried searching the thread for recommendations already, by the way.I strongly suggest Ibiza Motel. It's a short cab ride away and the girls will be excited. It's their version of five star luxury. And it's a really fun place to party without worrying about the neighbors.
On Colombian-Cupid there are girl active all the time looking for short term meetings. This site is officially a romance site but many many of the girls are both easy available, not to expensive and often very beautiful.
You need Spanish at medium level otherwise it will be very frustrating to communicate.
No group or mansion are necessary, girls today are their own bosses and you can ask a girl in the street, on social media, romance site, whatever; there are +4 million people in Greater Medellin, 2 million females, the group 18-35 is a huge part of he population, but they are also many multiples more since they come to Medellin from villages or small towns or other cities so maybe girls 18-35 looking good and looking for any opportunities are 5 times more than in a normal for a city in Colombia. Its like a magnet!
Authorities and society, employers in general pay so low wages that beauty, sensuality, elegance, fitness becomes much more important than in a normal Western society. The pretty girls get they money.
The girls on CC may / will fuck you but will always whine and tell you they need money before they leave. Their English is usually poor if at all.
Haha, I get the impression that you are looking at a website of beautiful young women and thinking to yourself that all women in Medellin look like that. If you go out on the streets of a regular barrio and look dispassionately at the people that are there, I think you would have a different opinion.Brother TK you are so right. During my first trip to Medellin I was actually disappointed by the way the girls looked. Yes, there were a few stunners out there. But all the hype I had read about Medellin and the girls of Colombia simply was not true according to a "boots on the ground" observation with my own eyes.
That being said, there is going to be someone who jumps up (beats their chest and calls me names because I am new to the Medellin forum and have strong opinions they disagree with)' and tells me to go someplace else if I don't like it. And to them I just put two middle fingers up! I'll go where I want, when I want and write what want about it.) I had a great trip! And I got all the sex I wanted. And I learned that I simply prefer the skin shade of my girls to be butterscotch to dark chocolate. And to have some ass. Because the most beautiful Colombianas that I saw looked like that.
So it is off to Cali at some point to explore a place I have been told has more of girls of my preferred type. The girls of Medellin that I saw on the street fell on the numeric attractiveness scale that would fit a Standard Deviation curve. A beauty standard that I have found to be consistent the world over. In my opinion, the girls of Medellin are no more attractive or less attractive than I have found during my travels throughout the world.
BlueChange
06-19-23, 10:32
Hello everyone,
I will be travelling to Medellin for a week later next month and was hoping for some advice on the best place to bring girls near El Poblado. I've decided to stay in a hotel. I don't feel comfortable paying the hotel fees or getting a reputation for being a monger at the hotel I stay at long term and I've read too many horror stories here to bring a girl into the same room with my passport / money / valuables. I exclusively plan to hire higher end girls off websites and am ethnically Latino if that makes any difference. My Spanish isn't perfect but I should be able to communicate what I need to effectively.
Are there any love hotels nearby the El Poblado area that people here can recommend? Would it be better to travel further out? I've tried searching the thread for recommendations already, by the way.Best love hotel is Ibiza, high end, no interaction with staff (its all with intercoms) every room has a jazuzzi, I found Ora (Gold) room to be plenty.
https://motelibiza.com/ibiza/tarifas
It's in ItagüI like 13 minutes from Poblado depending on traffic.
BlueChange
06-19-23, 10:49
Better to look for others on this site to go with or meet up with some guys at the mansion who know the game. The map (look at other links for 'Medellin Map') probably has 75% of the casas and clubs. More 'official' Sex tourist guides and websites were popping up 8-10 years ago, but drew the wrath of the government and some gangs. Most stopped doing it, were thrown in jail, or shot (I'm serious). Not something you want to be a part of.Preach, see "colombian jake" as a cautious tale, you don't want to get invovled with any of that.
Foreigners being killed in Medellin some years ago was al related to their interference in the local business-hierchy of prepagos and drugs, otherwise you risk no more here than in any other place.Really. More recently they die of accidental or deliberate overdoses of knock-out drugs like scopolamine. And based on the number of people I have personally met that have been drugged that way it is endemic. Of course you can do things to lower that risk, but it is endemic in Medellin and Bogota.
Thank you so much for the information. ""deterministic good quality girls", I mean a place where there are plenty of girls, and I can anyway have a very large chance to find 1-2 girls that are my type or at least at medium quality, just like FKK sharks. I do not want to go a place where I stay for a whole night, but can only find undesired girls (e. G. Fat, or not good-looking, etc.)
Thanks again!The mansion would probably not meet your requirements, it is nothing like a brothel where there are a variety of girls wandering around that you choose from. These are working girls from their own places that come in to the hotel, not in any way employed or controlled by the hotel, and may be available. During the day there may only be a very few or none sometimes. You say "plenty of girls". That will never be the case. Anything between none and maybe 6? I have not stayed there recently but during the day it was only a few around. At night they come into the bar next door, same as they might in any bar, and try to get business that way. It is a small bar so anything over 6 girls would be a lot. If you have very specific requirements I can almost guarantee there will never be one or two. Of course I have no idea what you consider medium quality or your type.
The Tall Man
06-19-23, 14:29
Hello everyone,
I will be travelling to Medellin for a week later next month and was hoping for some advice on the best place to bring girls near El Poblado. I've decided to stay in a hotel. I don't feel comfortable paying the hotel fees or getting a reputation for being a monger at the hotel I stay at long term and I've read too many horror stories here to bring a girl into the same room with my passport / money / valuables. I exclusively plan to hire higher end girls off websites and am ethnically Latino if that makes any difference. My Spanish isn't perfect but I should be able to communicate what I need to effectively.
Are there any love hotels nearby the El Poblado area that people here can recommend? Would it be better to travel further out? I've tried searching the thread for recommendations already, by the way.
Best love hotel is Ibiza, high end, no interaction with staff (its all with intercoms) every room has a jazuzzi, I found Ora (Gold) room to be pleanty.
https://motelibiza.com/ibiza/tarifas
It's in ItagI like 13 minutes from poblado depending on traffic.I have been traveling everywhere in Colombia for decades and now living full time in Medellin for almost 10 years, so "been there and done that", heck I have experienced more than what many visitors and even most expats will never or could never comprehend.
The Ibiza is a good suggestion and just know that if your a single gringo in Medellin there is no escaping the stereotype that your a sex tourist, 1000% end of story. The hotel your at and as your walking in the street or in a store or a mall every Colombian that you come across sees you as a visiting sex tourist, but don't worry because they could care less.
Have fun!
TTM.
BlueChange
06-19-23, 16:17
Just had my 1st trip to COL in BOG which was awesome and of course have my eyes set on MDE, CAR. Is it generally true that club girls in MDE cost more than BOG? While I can't find consistent rates factoring in time, I'm reading that more often MDE will have girls quoting $150, $200+ for sessions. My 2 Santa Fe / BOG visits I was reliably getting quotes for 90 K-110 K ($26 max) for 20 min sessions, so $80 an hour. And I'm pretty stingy on only conventionally attractive girls (fit or enhanced), so it wasn't the street urchins. They didn't have the immaculate super model looks, but these were from legit 8's 9's Even the Eroticas Bogotas site, which does MDE girls too, was around 330 K per hour so near $100/ HR adding in some extras.
Is there truly inflation in MDE vs BOG? Would make sense from posts I see about the gringos in MDE, while in BOG I saw zero foreigners. Plus Santa Fe / BOG can be very sketchy and from YouTube videos it seems the club areas of Poblado like Gusto Isla are a little safer and more "luxury". Planning my next trip, so while MDE seems worth at least 1 gamble, BOG is far easier to get to for a short 3 day trip as I'm able to get a direct flight, vs always losing 1 day and stress for connections in SAm for MDE.I have to say hands down it is the apartments. The apartments in Medellin are sooo overpriced for Airbnb. Not only for daily but monthly as well. You get way way more bang for your buck in Bogota for housing. It isn't even keeping up with inflation. Places that were 500-600 a month are now 1400 a month in less then 2 years time. I could see if it went up to like 900 or something but to have it more then double and ONLY in Medellin is insanity. It sucks and I don't think it will change unless Colombia puts in a law of some sort.
I have to say hands down it is the apartments. The apartments in Medellin are sooo overpriced for Airbnb. Not only for daily but monthly as well. You get way way more bang for your buck in Bogota for housing. It isn't even keeping up with inflation. Places that were 500-600 a month are now 1400 a month in less then 2 years time. I could see if it went up to like 900 or someting but to have it more then double and ONLY in medellin is insanity. It sucks and I don't think it will change unless Colombia puts in a law of some sort.Totally agree. I rented a nice Airbnb in Bogota in Chapinero, for 45 bucks a night. The place had a private elevator that opened into the apartment. The same apartment in MDE would be 80-100 bucks per night.
Haha, I get the impression that you are looking at a website of beautiful young women and thinking to yourself that all women in Medellin look like that. If you go out on the streets of a regular barrio and look dispassionately at the people that are there, I think you would have a different opinion.Yup. The average-looking woman in Medellin is nothing special (and I like Medellin). There's simply no place in the World where a high percentage of the women are really good-looking. Now if you're going to La Isla, of course there's lots of attractive women (with lots of silicone!
The mansion would probably not meet your requirements, it is nothing like a brothel where there are a variety of girls wandering around that you choose from. These are working girls from their own places that come in to the hotel, not in any way employed or controlled by the hotel, and may be available. During the day there may only be a very few or none sometimes. You say "plenty of girls". That will never be the case. Anything between none and maybe 6? I have not stayed there recently but during the day it was only a few around. At night they come into the bar next door, same as they might in any bar, and try to get business that way. It is a small bar so anything over 6 girls would be a lot. If you have very specific requirements I can almost guarantee there will never be one or two. Of course I have no idea what you consider medium quality or your type.To be fair, on a reasonably good night at the bar downstairs, you can have easily have 20+ women. The problem is (again generally) that most of them I wouldn't pay to fuck.
During the day, it is indeed generally very slim pickings.
With all that said, the Mansion IMO is a fun place to stay.
DiscoverFL
06-19-23, 18:29
The mansion would probably not meet your requirements, it is nothing like a brothel where there are a variety of girls wandering around that you choose from. These are working girls from their own places that come in to the hotel, not in any way employed or controlled by the hotel, and may be available. During the day there may only be a very few or none sometimes. You say "plenty of girls". That will never be the case. Anything between none and maybe 6? I have not stayed there recently but during the day it was only a few around. At night they come into the bar next door, same as they might in any bar, and try to get business that way. It is a small bar so anything over 6 girls would be a lot. If you have very specific requirements I can almost guarantee there will never be one or two. Of course I have no idea what you consider medium quality or your type.I'd generally agree with all you say except at night, where ID say 20+ girls cycle through the bar / club at night. Sometimes less, but more recently more as the cops have made the park harder at nigh|t.
Ovechkin08
06-19-23, 19:53
Hello chaps. I live in London and typically monger in Spain. I love Latina women and Spain is full of them. One of my favorite cities (both for mongering and for visiting) is Madrid. The puticlubs in Madrid are full of beautiful Colombian and Venezuelan women which can be had for between EUR 100 and 200/ hour depending on the club. I've been debating whether or not it makes sense to visit Colombia (Cartagena and Medellin) vs. Just staying in Madrid. From watching Youtube videos, I really like the look of the girls in Club Gusto and El Poblado but quoted prices seem to be no better than Spain. I've seen a similar case in Cartagena where I see girls quoting in USD and at prices that would rival top clubs like Vive Madrid in Spain. Given flight costs and general lack of culture compared to a major city like Madrid (museums, restaurants, etc), I'm wondering if a trip to the source" is worth the cost / time? Many thanks!
I have been traveling everywhere in Colombia for decades and now living full time in Medellin for almost 10 years, so "been there and done that", heck I have experienced more than what many visitors and even most expats will never or could never comprehend.
The Ibiza is a good suggestion and just know that if your a single gringo in Medellin there is no escaping the stereotype that your a sex tourist, 1000% end of story. The hotel your at and as your walking in the street or in a store or a mall every Colombian that you come across sees you as a visiting sex tourist, but don't worry because they could care less.
Have fun!
TTM.Last time I was in Medellin towards end of Covid, this construction worker yells at me " thanks for coming back to Colombia, we need the sex tourists back. " he said the girls were broke or something like that. LOL.
I am searching for affordable airbnb / hotel near el poblado meets following criteria:
- Guest (Chica) Friendly (no hidden cost).
- Have 24 hours security guards / front desk who will check for ID going in / going out.
Where would that be? There is no such filters in airbnb.
Mr Enternational
06-19-23, 22:17
Given flight costs and general lack of culture compared to a major city like Madrid (museums, restaurants, etc), I'm wondering if a trip to the source" is worth the cost / time? Many thanks!On one hand you have probably already seen all the museums and eaten all the food that Madrid has to offer. So not sure how that would factor into your decision. If you are just looking for a hole to stick your dick in then stick with Madrid. If you are looking for new experiences in life then try other places.
Hello chaps. I live in London and typically monger in Spain. I love Latina women and Spain is full of them. One of my favorite cities (both for mongering and for visiting) is Madrid. The puticlubs in Madrid are full of beautiful Colombian and Venezuelan women which can be had for between EUR 100 and 200/ hour depending on the club. I've been debating whether or not it makes sense to visit Colombia (Cartagena and Medellin) vs. Just staying in Madrid. From watching Youtube videos, I really like the look of the girls in Club Gusto and El Poblado but quoted prices seem to be no better than Spain. I've seen a similar case in Cartagena where I see girls quoting in USD and at prices that would rival top clubs like Vive Madrid in Spain. Given flight costs and general lack of culture compared to a major city like Madrid (museums, restaurants, etc), I'm wondering if a trip to the source" is worth the cost / time? Many thanks!If you are getting prices in Colombia that equat to 100 and 200 euro, you are looking in the wrong place. Colombia is much, much cheaper than Spain (if you stay out of Gusto's) but it's also much, much more dangerous. But, you have the time and cost of the flight, so you'd need probably at least a week or ten days to break even on the sex. Spain has women from all over the world and Colombia has women from Colombia and Venezuela. Would I go to Colombia if I lived in the UK? No. If I was sick of Spain I would go to Bratislava. Lots of really great looking women there, although a totally different look from the latinas.
Madrid v Medellin. I'm wondering if a trip to the source" is worth the cost / time?I would say don't underestimate the value of visiting a new place. Trying new experiences is nearly always a good thing. Colombia is not Spain. Its very different in culture, and that in itself is worth experiencing. Its not great for fine arts and historic buildings but it does have its own attractions. Amazon rainforest, Guatape, Santa Marta old town, and the Colombian lifestyle. Its also extremely cheap and one does not need to spend EUR 100-200 for one hour. For example, I pay EUR 10-15. You could also set up a great tour. Mix in Galapagos, (try a couple of night in Guayaquil on the way), you could also fly direct to DR these days. Maybe you could get to Cuba from there (not sure). That would be a great trip for a first timer.
So yeah, my advice is try smething new and try not to comapre the 2 bcos they have different positives.
Had a very relaxing weekend in Medellin getting trying out some erotic massage parlors.
1 - Luxuri Tentaciones (can be found on mileroticos by searching 'Luxuri') - I pre-arranged a 1 HR session with Sofia (180 k) the good news is she is even more stunning than the photos on the website. The bad news is the location is a dump. It is on the first floor of a confusing apartment complex and smells like trash. The massage was nothing to write home about but got OWO and FS for 180 k. I'd recommend an outcall next time.
2 - Atenea (Spa Atenea on google) - I chose Heidy and she was exactly my type, slender and clean shaven. 1 HR massage for 200 k the massage itself was just okay, she was a little rough for my liking but the handjob was the best I've ever had, she clearly knew what she was doing. No option for FS but the happy ending was amazing.
3 - Spa in San Diego Neighborhood (no name yet) - found a massage parlor in an apartment building near Centro Comercial San Diego and booked with Paula. They appear to be new and can only be found on mileroticos, search "San Diego" under masajes and you will find a few postings with similar descriptions, just different photos and phone numbers. Each masseuse appears to be independent, but shares the common studio. Paula was stunning, 150 k for 1 HR massage. Definitely the best massage of the trip, body-to-body and touching was allowed (including FIV) but no FS. HJ was great but did not come close to Heidy at Atenea.
I have done the bigger "name-brand" parlors in Medellin before (Om Spa, Tantra, Fantasia, etc.) and am starting to like the smaller ones better. I would not recommend Luxuri for a straight-up massage, but the others listed above were both more than adequate.
Sorry to interrupt the incessant chit chat, or is it shit shat, with an actual report. As part of a five week work stint in Colombia, I had the first of a few MDE visits a week ago and managed three sessions.
First was Marcela from photoprepagos. Her ad says "the most beautiful smile in the world" and I can't disagree after meeting her. She's a full but nicely figured MILF with big natural tits and long black hair. Super sweet, friendly, and fun, and she provided excellent GFE service for the ridiculous, at least for my budget, price of 180 k for the hour including a superb BBBJ. I can't wait to repeat with her tomorrow when I return to the city. Next was Luisa who had positive reviews on catadorcolombia. She was at one of the Ellas Erotic houses in the LOS Colores neighborhood. To me she was one of those gorgeous young costenas who doesn't really know how beautiful she is. Drop dead perfect body with flawless skin, and, amazingly, no tattoos. Pretty face with no makeup which I really like and long black hair. Killer BBBJ and very good service for 180 k for the hour including the BBBJ. Finally, I was in the mood for some chocolate and met Maria Jose from photoprepagos. She advertises as a barbie negrita and that's pretty accurate. Great, firm, slim body, pretty face, super BBBJ, and overall very good service. A little pricey at 290 k for the hour including the BBBJ but well worth it for me. I was way more than satisfied with all three of these very different girls, all of whom provided no BS service with all sorts of positions and no complaints. Of course, plain old good luck helps, but MDE remains one of my favorite mongering destinations.
...Its also extremely cheap and one does not need to spend EUR 100-200 for one hour.
...So yeah, my advice is try smething new and try not to comapre the 2 bcos they have different positives.I can confirm that Colombia is relatively cheaper than Europe. Plus, some of the working girls in a Europe have an attitude.
JustinFields
06-20-23, 07:38
Are the guys that are getting scolpamined are they actually banging these girls. My guess is that the majority probably don't even get laid and they are in the talking negotiation stage when they get scoped.
Man I'm looking for the same thing. Have to book the Airbnb soon. Can anyone help us?
I am searching for affordable airbnb / hotel near el poblado meets following criteria:
- Guest (Chica) Friendly (no hidden cost).
- Have 24 hours security guards / front desk who will check for ID going in / going out.
Where would that be? There is no such filters in airbnb.
ILoveColombia
06-20-23, 10:46
If you are getting prices in Colombia that equat to 100 and 200 euro, you are looking in the wrong place. Colombia is much, much cheaper than Spain (if you stay out of Gusto's) but it's also much, much more dangerous. But, you have the time and cost of the flight, so you'd need probably at least a week or ten days to break even on the sex. Spain has women from all over the world and Colombia has women from Colombia and Venezuela. Would I go to Colombia if I lived in the UK? No. If I was sick of Spain I would go to Bratislava. Lots of really great looking women there, although a totally different look from the latinas.Colombia is a lot cheaper, but to break even and also do the other things museeums, resturants, Toro at Macarena (or is it banned), a lot of places. Bogota is cold, but around the capital there are valleys that a at low altitude and hence warm, 25-35 Celcius, go there w a girl or 2, it's like what santiago de Antioquia is for Medellin. 2 weeks is to short for me, one month at least. Avoid overpriced areas as Poblado. In Laureles, the hugh middle-class area, prices for any service is much lower, the same quality of girls, resturants and AUTENTIC. Poblado feels ARTIFICAL.
Poblado; paisa friends said it's new rich, criminals and overpriced prepagos who excell there, so the "old" money moved to other areas. All prepagos think Poblado is top, for me it's a red flag, why pay Western Europe prices in Colombia?, I never go there, I speak Spanish so I prefer laureles, Estadio or even centro.
Madrid is a fantastic city; medellin can¡t compete with that, but has a ace; it's always, 365 days a year, 25 celcius. No winter, spring, autumn, always summer, , even if it is called City of the eternal spring (25 is like July in Europe, not March / April).
I find colombian people, especially girls can be so life-loving, easy-going, even so that Quebec wants electronic-engineers from Colombia since they adapt culturally so easily!
Spanish people also good in Madrid.
Colombia; many places are not used to tourist, they have not learnt how to charge more, "the gringo-premium", easy to get friends. But in established places they ONLY think gringo=$.
Colombia tourist agency slogan; "the risk is that you don't want to leave!" it's very true.
Prepago-friend. If a prepago likes you, you can get a good discount, go out as a couple.
I have have met both Barracudas and Angels. You notice easily if she is a Barracuda, but the problem it's excting with dangerous females, donne pericolose.
My friends GF was dangerous and did crazy things, but he always came back to here since she was always unpredictable.
All in all, Colombia (and VNZ used to be even better but are now gone as a destination but can come back if we need their oil on a huge scale, which is a probable scenario w sanctions against Russia and the Russian oil production not can be exported since all experts has left, there production will fall and must be replaced, so VNZ might be welcomed anew into the global society and by doing so getting rid of all debt's they own Russia and China, hehehe, partly according to peter Z)).
Just for the experience.
I know nomads that are nerds and live in Colombia on tourist / student visa and get paid from their Western company, as working from home, just that living costs, prepago costs are like 22% of that in UK and then it's money well spend, which €200-300 is a really crazy price which US / Europe guys pay. I earn €300 net a day x 22 a month. €300 for 1 hour vs 8 hours at the office. It's a bad deal.
ILoveColombia
06-20-23, 11:43
I have to say hands down it is the apartments. The apartments in Medellin are sooo overpriced for Airbnb. Not only for daily but monthly as well. You get way way more bang for your buck in Bogota for housing. It isn't even keeping up with inflation. Places that were 500-600 a month are now 1400 a month in less then 2 years time. I could see if it went up to like 900 or someting but to have it more then double and ONLY in medellin is insanity. It sucks and I don't think it will change unless Colombia puts in a law of some sort.Medellin is like barcelona or milan, turin, they have a entrepreneurial gene.
When voilence now is not pressing down economic activity, growth pops-up by itself, also like Beirut!
Liberal culture, easy to do business, easy to get females.
Bogotá is stagnating, it have had a long period of growth but now macro factors are pointing in the wrong direction.
A paia friend have been buying 3 apartments the last decade and he runs a small resturant and they are now worth 300 k COP each, at least 100% growth since 2015.
The resturant pays the bills, the pension, richness comes from his apartments. And not having time to spend them on casinos or prepagos, his novia is a beauty but very hard discling him!
The whole motoway / freewy access to Rio Grande Airport, and other areas are filled with new de luxe.
They say 50% of emplyed people in Medellin are informal, 85% in he rural areas around, so GNP / capita etc is hard to estimate.
Moving money to tax paradises.
65-75% are truly hard working and poor, 10-20% are just rake home the profits.
The optimism, this gives growth, 2000-2019 people in absolute poverty fell by 1% by year from 30% to 10% in medellin.
Still many have a life =all waking hours are working hours! . Monday to Sunday.
But it's also a human phenomonen, migration. Latin people March from Brazil to USA. It's a thing humans do.
Living ouside medellin, in marinilla, which is close or guarne, very chill, good air everything.
2013; in sabaneta; a paisa friend measured the airquality, it was bad, today it's cancer. Provoking, an un espected side effect of frequent mongering.
Take your IT newwork and work from home, get paid from your company in US / Europe, bu live or spend much time outside the major cities and use sun-protection, maybe even more important than condoms!
ILoveColombia
06-20-23, 11:58
I have been traveling everywhere in Colombia for decades and now living full time in Medellin for almost 10 years, so "been there and done that", heck I have experienced more than what many visitors and even most expats will never or could never comprehend.
The Ibiza is a good suggestion and just know that if your a single gringo in Medellin there is no escaping the stereotype that your a sex tourist, 1000% end of story. The hotel your at and as your walking in the street or in a store or a mall every Colombian that you come across sees you as a visiting sex tourist, but don't worry because they could care less.
Have fun!
TTM.
I have been traveling everywhere in Colombia for decades and now living full time in Medellin for almost 10 years, so "been there and done that", heck I have experienced more than what many visitors and even most expats will never or could never comprehend.
The Ibiza is a good suggestion and just know that if your a single gringo in Medellin there is no escaping the stereotype that your a sex tourist, 1000% end of story. The hotel your at and as your walking in the street or in a store or a mall every Colombian that you come across sees you as a visiting sex tourist, but don't worry because they could care less.
Have fun!
TTM.I agree, but when you have learned the lingo and can communicate fluently; this "sex-turist" factor becomes a minor factor.
But 95% don't speak Spanish or rudimentary.
I learn this by avoiding anglosaxon and other light skinned people and where they hang and got my own oscial phere, with foreigners, but they are a majority and they also speak Spanish.
Then again; people doesn't care so much in medellin, all men go to prepagos. All married men I know in Colombia gos to prepagos. You can even discuss which clubs or girls which are the best with your professors in Spanish at La UPB!
I would say; if you don't hunt females, for relationship or sex or both, then you are considered gay or strange!
The females except you to attack you when opportunity given, colombian or gringo!
Sometimes I feel paisa females are even more into getting sex than men. They think like, a good fxxx + some money, married or not!
Those of us who come from countries where poor hygiene has been the norm, where we haven't had access to hot baths, have developed a fear of touch.
Colombian women are meticulous about their and your hygiene, but we from cold countries have a kind of anxiety about physical touch.
Probably because thousands of years of touching has been contagious.
My teacher in Medellin who often lives in the US said "if I had hugged and kissed my American girlfriends like I do my Colombian ones, I would have gone to jail!
ILoveColombia
06-20-23, 12:07
The mansion would probably not meet your requirements, it is nothing like a brothel where there are a variety of girls wandering around that you choose from. These are working girls from their own places that come in to the hotel, not in any way employed or controlled by the hotel, and may be available. During the day there may only be a very few or none sometimes. You say "plenty of girls". That will never be the case. Anything between none and maybe 6? I have not stayed there recently but during the day it was only a few around. At night they come into the bar next door, same as they might in any bar, and try to get business that way. It is a small bar so anything over 6 girls would be a lot. If you have very specific requirements I can almost guarantee there will never be one or two. Of course I have no idea what you consider medium quality or your type.A girl said she wanted no relationship with me, she wanted to be single. But alng the conversation, "I'm like that, I don't want a BF". I asked about th mansion. "No, Greg / Mansion charges too much", besides the fee they take for the room the Mansion demands extra money from the girls, but officially they deny it.
Just her comment was so spontanous, like it was like there where no point going there for here and she was a HOT girl, mayby not a 10 but looking like a very sexy blond american pornstar with brown eyes.
ILoveColombia
06-20-23, 12:45
Really. More recently they die of accidental or deliberate overdoses of knock-out drugs like scopolamine. And based on the number of people I have personally met that have been drugged that way it is endemic. Of course you can do things to lower that risk, but it is endemic in Medellin and Bogota.
Really. More recently they die of accidental or deliberate overdoses of knock-out drugs like scopolamine. And based on the number of people I have personally met that have been drugged that way it is endemic. Of course you can do things to lower that risk, but it is endemic in Medellin and Bogota.
Really. More recently they die of accidental or deliberate overdoses of knock-out drugs like scopolamine. And based on the number of people I have personally met that have been drugged that way it is endemic. Of course you can do things to lower that risk, but it is endemic in Medellin and Bogota.https://colombiareports.com/amp/medellins-scopolamine-threat/
You loose your own will and give away your pin code to your credit card.
Have a lower weekly withdrawal and higher it, lets say just during daytime one day or the few days you pay for apartments, go shopping etc, buy airfare-tickets, and then lower it again.
They you limit the damage.
I did so after being robbed, she saw my pin-code, and when I was in the shower she was superfast down to the ATM and empty daily maximum. But I must add, I was a in the bathroom for a long time taking care of a small wound. So special circumstances. It happend in Manizales so I dicovered the withdrawls after coming home to Medelin after the weekend. I was also on strong antibiotics and took tramadol for the pain, which made me blurry and forgot / skipped my own secutrity precautions which I'm normally very strict about.
After that I enhanced my security routines even more. I put a thick chain on my closet and hid the chain with having cloth hangning on the door of it. Crazy!
Twice I have been robbed during 12 longer visits South America 2003-2019.
And in Medellin or Buenos Aires, where I lived one year (x2) , I must have taken taxis like 3 x 365 x2 = around 2000 times.
But these two events still scares me! I will always be a little afraid and hence loose some of the pleasure!
But also; different cards. Two-factor verification.
Anything that complicates for the robber and anything that minimize losses.
Then put US3. 000 on a "mental account" for robbery-losses. I have put such robbery-reserve money on my parents accounts, of which codes, numbers I know nothing!
You can also have a weekly budget and get money send to you and pick them up at WU, being robbed on the last day you maybe jusy have 100 dollars.
But all in all; the dangerous things for tourists are still; traffic accidents!
But here at home, the risk is the same, but the security program is turned -off, you don't except nothing to happen! While in Latin America, the security issue take away some of the pleasure, you are a little afraid in the back of your head, always! Which can destroy relations where no harm was never intended!
ILoveColombia
06-20-23, 13:01
Brother TK you are so right. During my first trip to Medellin I was actually disappointed by the way the girls looked. Yes, there were a few stunners out there. But all the hype I had read about Medellin and the girls of Colombia simply was not true according to a "boots on the ground" observation with my own eyes.
That being said, there is going to be someone who jumps up (beats their chest and calls me names because I am new to the Medellin forum and have strong opinions they disagree with)' and tells me to go someplace else if I don't like it. And to them I just put two middle fingers up! I'll go where I want, when I want and write what want about it.) I had a great trip! And I got all the sex I wanted. And I learned that I simply prefer the skin shade of my girls to be butterscotch to dark chocolate. And to have some ass. Because the most beautiful Colombianas that I saw looked like that.
So it is off to Cali at some point to explore a place I have been told has more of girls of my preferred type. The girls of Medellin that I saw on the street fell on the numeric attractiveness scale that would fit a Standard Deviation curve. A beauty standard that I have found to be consistent the world over. In my opinion, the girls of Medellin are no more attractive or less attractive than I have found during my travels throughout the world.
Brother TK you are so right. During my first trip to Medellin I was actually disappointed by the way the girls looked. Yes, there were a few stunners out there. But all the hype I had read about Medellin and the girls of Colombia simply was not true according to a "boots on the ground" observation with my own eyes.
That being said, there is going to be someone who jumps up (beats their chest and calls me names because I am new to the Medellin forum and have strong opinions they disagree with)' and tells me to go someplace else if I don't like it. And to them I just put two middle fingers up! I'll go where I want, when I want and write what want about it.) I had a great trip! And I got all the sex I wanted. And I learned that I simply prefer the skin shade of my girls to be butterscotch to dark chocolate. And to have some ass. Because the most beautiful Colombianas that I saw looked like that.
So it is off to Cali at some point to explore a place I have been told has more of girls of my preferred type. The girls of Medellin that I saw on the street fell on the numeric attractiveness scale that would fit a Standard Deviation curve. A beauty standard that I have found to be consistent the world over. In my opinion, the girls of Medellin are no more attractive or less attractive than I have found during my travels throughout the world.No.
I lived in Arequipa for a semester and studied. The best looking prepagos where Colombianas, which came there since they simply look so much better on avergae.
A friend moved from medellin to Lima, "all men are so ugly here".
A good paisa friend " the girls in Buenos Aires", where his son studied art, "have faces like horses", long-faced.
But yes, 50-60% are normal or ugly in Medellin.
Before we all get nuked, the russian and ukrainian girls!
In Africa, girls, and men also, from somalia / etiopia / Eritrea, tall, slim, tall necks, long thin arms and legs, they are simply very beautiful, good looking faces too, like black-barbies.
But I have had 4 10-GF in Peru. In my local gym hee at home, there are very few girls, one are a latina; she is awesome, and she is from Peru.
But I remember, if you been in the old center in Arequipa, with resturants all around on 3-5-7 floor. I thought, I will good looking girl; there where zero! During eating a lunch or dinner daytime! Maybe one, she was awesome, the waitress, but 99% she was from Colombia.
I went to big casa in Arequipa, but it was closed, but the guys let me in for a beer. Especially then I understood, in Peru "Colombiana" means good looking girl!
Yesterday I boarded the Metro at the Poblado Station around noon headed towards Centro.
Upon departing the station there was an announcement in Spanish to guard your valuables including phones, etc.
And then to my surprise the announcement was made in English by the same speaker and it wasn't a recording.
This is the first time I have ever heard an announcement of any type in English on the Metro, maybe it's been going on awhile, or maybe just around the tourist areas, but definitely a shock to hear an announcement in English on the Metro.
This is just another example of how popular and touristy Medellin has become and the changes taking place.
You probably don't want to label yourself as a "sex tourist. " It's a pejorative that that can lead people to think underage or anything else forbidden. It's out there no need to have "sex tourist" on your forehead.The reality is that if your an older male, and an obvious gringo, you will automatically be considered a "sex tourist" by most Colombians.
There's no way around this.
It goes with the territory here, and what might be considered embarrassing here may occur when a monger is with a young tart, at least 30 years younger than you, and they get the look of shame depending on where you are.
I have been in a few hotel elevators with a young tart in tow, a family enters the elevator, and the wife typically gives me a very dirty look, and the husbands at times are are having a wet dream, especially when their wife is like a sack of potatoes. LOL.
Mr Enternational
06-20-23, 17:24
https://colombiareports.com/amp/medellins-scopolamine-threat/
You loose your own will and give away your pin code to your credit card.You do not lose your own will, you wre just more open to suggestion. Like someone could say you need to hurry up and pay this bill. What is your pin so I can get the money for you? Look at videos of people under nitrous oxide at the dentist for example. They say all kind of crazy shit with no inhibitions.
And I learned that I simply prefer the skin shade of my girls to be butterscotch to dark chocolate. And to have some ass. Because the most beautiful Colombianas that I saw looked like that.
In my opinion, the girls of Medellin are no more attractive or less attractive than I have found during my travels throughout the world.I totally agree w both these comments. I also prefer the coloured girls. Always look healthier. Better toned, more athlletic. Thats just my preference.
Yeah, I think there are plenty of good looking Colombian women, but no more so than in most other countries. But they do like to splash the make-up here. And I often wonder if MDE gets star comments mostly from guys come from a country where most of the women are ghastly or unattainable.
DiscoverFL
06-20-23, 19:19
A girl said she wanted no relationship with me, she wanted to be single. But alng the conversation, "I'm like that, I don't want a BF". I asked about th mansion. "No, Greg / Mansion charges too much", besides the fee they take for the room the Mansion demands extra money from the girls, but officially they deny it.The statements regarding the mansion are 100% not true. First of all, the mansion is run by Robert and Alexa. Second, they charge the girls nothing to visit (daytime or night). They do require daytime ones call in advance to get a slot, assigned sparingly. Third, there are no 'room fees' (to who?) but instead the rooms are rented as regular guest house rooms to visitors.
https://colombiareports.com/amp/medellins-scopolamine-threat/
You loose your own will and give away your pin code to your credit card.
Have a lower weekly withdrawal and higher it, lets say just during daytime one day or the few days you pay for apartments, go shopping etc, buy airfare-tickets, and then lower it again.
They you limit the damage.
I did so after being robbed, she saw my pin-code, and when I was in the shower she was superfast down to the ATM and empty daily maximum. But I must add, I was a in the bathroom for a long time taking care of a small wound. So special circumstances. It happend in Manizales so I dicovered the withdrawls after coming home to Medelin after the weekend. I was also on strong antibiotics and took tramadol for the pain, which made me blurry and forgot / skipped my own secutrity precautions which I'm normally very strict about.
After that I enhanced my security routines even more. I put a thick chain on my closet and hid the chain with having cloth hangning on the door of it. Crazy!
Twice I have been robbed during 12 longer visits South America 2003-2019.
And in Medellin or Buenos Aires, where I lived one year (x2) , I must have taken taxis like 3 x 365 x2 = around 2000 times.
But these two events still scares me! I will always be a little afraid and hence loose some of the pleasure!
But also; different cards. Two-factor verification.
Anything that complicates for the robber and anything that minimize losses.
Then put US3. 000 on a "mental account" for robbery-losses. I have put such robbery-reserve money on my parents accounts, of which codes, numbers I know nothing!
You can also have a weekly budget and get money send to you and pick them up at WU, being robbed on the last day you maybe jusy have 100 dollars.
But all in all; the dangerous things for tourists are still; traffic accidents!
But here at home, the risk is the same, but the security program is turned -off, you don't except nothing to happen! While in Latin America, the security issue take away some of the pleasure, you are a little afraid in the back of your head, always! Which can destroy relations where no harm was never intended!The one thing I did last year is open a savings account that doesn't have ATM cards attached to them. Money can only be ach withdrawn to a checking account. There is no way a criminal will know the account exists unless you have the app on your phone which you should never leave after ACH. Delete download delete download. The most they can steal is what you ACH. Only ACH what you need and then withdraw in pesos every couple days from a checking account that charges no international fees.
What are the odds a 9 in Medellin gives it away for free. It seems like the culture there says don't be dumb girl and give it away for free at 18. Prostitution is so accepted there and part of the culture. Also, it's not like the Colombian guys treat them well, so why not F a white guy who will treat you like a queen for a months salary at KFC. Hell I've been to Taco Bell in America where the cashier was 18 and was a solid 9 with a brick house body. I thought to myself I would pay her 200 for a hour. She would have to work over 2 days there to make that.
I haven't heard that yet. I will listen out for it. I think I've seen English language signage in some of the stations. It's good advice. The only public transportation I know that doesn't have a pickpocket problem is in Japan. They have a problem with perverts who feel up girls or record upskirt videos. In Tokyo I actually saw a guy with some kind of camera with a gooseneck extension slip it under the school uniform skirt of a girl on the metro. I wasn't the only one who saw it and no one did anything.
Yesterday I boarded the Metro at the Poblado Station around noon headed towards Centro.
Upon departing the station there was an announcement in Spanish to guard your valuables including phones, etc.
And then to my surprise the announcement was made in English by the same speaker and it wasn't a recording.
This is the first time I have ever heard an announcement of any type in English on the Metro, maybe it's been going on awhile, or maybe just around the tourist areas, but definitely a shock to hear an announcement in English on the Metro.
This is just another example of how popular and touristy Medellin has become and the changes taking place.
I am searching for affordable airbnb / hotel near el poblado meets following criteria:
- Guest (Chica) Friendly (no hidden cost).
- Have 24 hours security guards / front desk who will check for ID going in / going out.
Where would that be? There is no such filters in airbnb.Hotel Du Parc is in between Parque Lleras and Parque Poblado. Usually you can get it for $100/ nt (breakfast included) and it is pretty nice. They check ID's at the front desk for guests but do not charge for them.
What are the odds a 9 in Medellin gives it away for free. It seems like the culture there says don't be dumb girl and give it away for free at 18. Prostitution is so accepted there and part of the culture. ...why not F a white guy who will treat you like a queen for a months salary at KFC. NOt sure what a 9 is. I assume its what you consider a very good looking girl. If the girl is not having regular sex by 18 in Colombia, then she is in the minority. A huge proportoin of them already have (broken) families by that age. And that is often the reason they work in sex. And am not sure what white skin has to do with tourists.
Mr Enternational
06-21-23, 16:01
Hell I've been to Taco Bell in America where the cashier was 18 and was a solid 9 with a brick house body. I thought to myself I would pay her 200 for a hour. She would have to work over 2 days there to make that.Why is that your mentality? Whenever I see a normal chick that I like I just talk to them normally and ask to get to know them or whatever. It does not pop into my head that I would pay her. Some of you guys are really too deep into this P4P shit.
Mr Enternational
06-21-23, 16:05
Also, it's not like the Colombian guys treat them well, so why not F a white guy who will treat you like a queen for a months salary at KFC.Why do tourists always have the idea that local guys treat chicks bad but foreigners treat them well? This is a common bullshit idea in damn near every thread. There are locals that treat chicks good and there are foreigners that treat chicks like shit.
BlueChange
06-21-23, 18:09
Why do tourists always have the idea that local guys treat chicks bad but foreigners treat them well? This is a common bullshit idea in damn near every thread. There are locals that treat chicks good and there are foreigners that treat chicks like shit.I think its because the type of girl that gravitates towards foreigners usually talks shit about the locals. I agree its across the board of good and bad treatment. But that is where the stereotype originates from.
Why is that your mentality? Whenever I see a normal chick that I like I just talk to them normally and ask to get to know them or whatever. It does not pop into my head that I would pay her. Some of you guys are really too deep into this P4P shit.I agree with you and the majority of people who post stuff don't really understand Latino culture (at least how it applies to Colombia). If you are here for 2 weeks, not many girls will want to start a relationship that isn't compensation based. I mean after-all, Even if you can speak some Spanish you won't be around to give her gifts on her birthday. You won't be around to buy her that new pair of shoes. Men are the providers (in this culture) and if you aren't going to be here to help out, she isn't likely to be interested.
OTOH if you do live here, speak Spanish and can be available to take her to dinner at a nice restaurant or maybe a weekend trip to Guatape or San Jeronimo or someplace else. Now you are very interesting to her. If she sees you as a friend who can help out in times of need you become very handsome even if you are her grandfather's age. Girls are groomed to find a stable man who can be a productive member of the family. Mothers tell their daughters. "it is just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is with a poor man". Obviously there aren't enough "rich men" to go around. But show a girl that you live here, and can be a friend and sex will follow since it isn't a big deal. It is almost as plentiful as avocados.
Dcrist0527
06-21-23, 20:32
The statements regarding the mansion are 100% not true. First of all, the mansion is run by Robert and Alexa. Second, they charge the girls nothing to visit (daytime or night). They do require daytime ones call in advance to get a slot, assigned sparingly. Third, there are no 'room fees' (to who?) but instead the rooms are rented as regular guest house rooms to visitors.Spot on information from DiscoverFL. Only thing I will add: those slots have almost dried up. For various reasons, they are severely limiting the volume of girls during the day. That's sad because despite what's been reported here, the daytime action was sufficient. In the past couple years, you might have 5-10 girls hanging out. It was a low-pressure, relaxed environment, which is my style. Now? They are severely restricting girls during the day and they are scheduling them out weeks in advance. The result: fewer choices and girls far more anxious to cash in on "their" day.
Hi,
I will be in Medellin next week and just want to get your suggestion:
1. Could you recommend me some girl guest-friendly hotels close to Parque Lleras for around 70-100 USD per night? I booked a hotel called Dann Carlton Medellin Hotel, how about this one?
2. I planned to date with girls in my hotel room using photoprepagos.com, how about this website, is it good and safe or anything I need to know?
3. Any other places I can look for girls during the daytime, please send me links / addresses. I remember a folk mentioned "casa" as a brothel, what is exactly the name or weblink?
Highly appreciate it!
Why do tourists always have the idea that local guys treat chicks bad but foreigners treat them well? This is a common bullshit idea in damn near every thread. There are locals that treat chicks good and there are foreigners that treat chicks like shit.For me it's because damn near every girl tells me that Colombian men are dogs, with the exception of their father or brother (s) of course. Perhaps they say it because it's what I want to hear, but many of them have the stories to back it up. Also, if the local guys treat the girls so well, why the heck are so many of them single mothers? You're not much of a man if you abandon a girl (and your child) where I come from, but it's very common in their culture.
On the other hand the worst 'treatment' I hear about foreigners is usually them not tipping or having bad hygeine LOL.
AfternoonSnack
06-22-23, 00:53
I'm headed back to Medellin next week and my semi-pro novia invited me to a family finca party to meet her grandmother and the rest of her extended family. Any idea what I'm in for?
If she sees you as a friend who can help out in times of need you become very handsome even if you are her grandfather's age. As you are in fact their grandfather's age, that's what you want to think but it's self-delusion. To them it's like eating a bad meal for money, and if married to grandpa they are very likely to cheat with men they are attracted to.
Also one doesn't need to live in Colombia to provide birthday gifts and the like or even fill the role of "novio. " Many have a number of foreign men with this designation while the real novio is close to their age and Colombian. In fact good spending novios from afar are surely often preferred as they have to fuck them less.
For me it's because damn near every girl tells me that Colombian men are dogs, with the exception of their father or brother (s) of course. Perhaps they say it because it's what I want to hear, but many of them have the stories to back it up. Also, if the local guys treat the girls so well, why the heck are so many of them single mothers? You're not much of a man if you abandon a girl (and your child) where I come from, but it's very common in their culture.
On the other hand the worst 'treatment' I hear about foreigners is usually them not tipping or having bad hygeine LOL.A lot of women gravitate toward men that treat them poorly, and this is cross cultural. Some claim to want "nice guys," and may experiment with that but ultimately return to the familar and what they find exciting.
Mr Enternational
06-22-23, 02:27
Also, if the local guys treat the girls so well, why the heck are so many of them single mothers? You're not much of a man if you abandon a girl (and your child) where I come from, but it's very common in their culture.If that is their reasoning it is obvious they have not seen all the single mothers that foreigners left behind in other countries as well as their own. Just finished reading an article about it in Philippines. When a chick tells me about how bad local men are I say all men and all women are the same. It does not matter where they come from. You are just not used to a foreign man's bullshit yet. Besides that, it should be pretty easy getting along with a mf that is on vacation. The problems start when you have to see each other everyday or live together. Back in the day I used to mess with a Filipina chick and she would call her American husband Noriega because he was so tough on her.
From the Time article:
"Eventually, she found an email address, and when she sent a message, to her delight, she got a reply. Levante says her biological father, a sailor from Belfair, Washington, who left Subic for good in 1981, was sympathetic at first to her life story. But when she decided to ask him for help, noting that she was midway through a nursing attendant degree but would soon have to drop out because she couldn't afford tuition, he replied: 8203;"Please do not think that I am a knight in shining armor who is going to ride in and rescue you. " A few months later, Levante was told by her father's wife in the USA That he had died. ".
This is a roundabout way of saying girls are keen to use guys as ATMs. It's all good as long as the sex is to your liking.
I agree with you and the majority of people who post stuff don't really understand Latino culture (at least how it applies to Colombia). If you are here for 2 weeks, not many girls will want to start a relationship that isn't compensation based. I mean after-all, Even if you can speak some Spanish you won't be around to give her gifts on her birthday. You won't be around to buy her that new pair of shoes. Men are the providers (in this culture) and if you aren't going to be here to help out, she isn't likely to be interested.
OTOH if you do live here, speak Spanish and can be available to take her to dinner at a nice restaurant or maybe a weekend trip to Guatape or San Jeronimo or someplace else. Now you are very interesting to her. If she sees you as a friend who can help out in times of need you become very handsome even if you are her grandfather's age. Girls are groomed to find a stable man who can be a productive member of the family. Mothers tell their daughters. "it is just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as it is with a poor man". Obviously there aren't enough "rich men" to go around. But show a girl that you live here, and can be a friend and sex will follow since it isn't a big deal. It is almost as plentiful as avocados.
Why is that your mentality? Whenever I see a normal chick that I like I just talk to them normally and ask to get to know them or whatever. It does not pop into my head that I would pay her. Some of you guys are really too deep into this P4P shit.Why would a girl give it up for free to any John who approaches and talks to her? They know why John is in Colombia. Also, you assume that every John has game, speaks Spanish and is at least half decent looking, and this is not always the case. You have been talking a lot lately about "messing" with girls for free, if you can still pull that off, good for you, but then what are you doing on a mongering forum? My understanding is that you mess with average or below average looking girls, fucking them for free is not a big deal. Go ahead and try to score a hot chick without paying, and let us know how that goes.
Mr Enternational
06-22-23, 05:50
You have been talking a lot lately about "messing" with girls for free, if you can still pull that off, good for you, but then what are you doing on a mongering forum?They are women. They are not some sacred untouchable alien orb. So because I ate pizza today, I can not eat a ribeye tomorrow? Because I drove my car today, I can not ride my motorcycle tomorrow or my bicycle the next day? There is no either or or mutual exclusivity with paying chicks or fucking chicks for free. You know that both can be done right?
My understanding is that you mess with average or below average looking girls,Where did you get that understanding from?
Look under FAQ. General Questions, What is the purpose of the forum? And it says in red bold print:
The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.
Now for those who have difficulty with reading comprehension in the English language, this is not a mongering board. This is a big tent forum about having sex with girls. Now please tell me that at least some of you out there know how to have sex with a girl without paying her. That discussion is very active other threads.
Why do tourists always have the idea that local guys treat chicks bad but foreigners treat them well? This is a common bullshit idea in damn near every thread. There are locals that treat chicks good and there are foreigners that treat chicks like shit.I talk to all of my dates at length before I fuck them & I am talkin hundreds of paisas & I am hard pressed to remember just one who spoke highly of the local men. Of course, hookers are at the lower end of the strata but still, almost 100% speak ill of local men & that is why they are not livin the dream of a husband, children, a house etc. Etc. If a guy was treating my prospective dates good, they would not be selling their snatch for a pittance, Mr. Know=it=all Enternational.
Why would a girl give it up for free to any John who approaches and talks to her? They know why John is in Colombia. Also, you assume that every John has game, speaks Spanish and is at least half decent looking, and this is not always the case. You have been talking a lot lately about "messing" with girls for free, if you can still pull that off, good for you, but then what are you doing on a mongering forum? My understanding is that you mess with average or below average looking girls, fucking them for free is not a big deal. Go ahead and try to score a hot chick without paying, and let us know how that goes.I've lived long enough now to know that hot chicks and ugly chicks are 2 different skill sets. Ugly girls are starved for male attention and sex. Guys don't hit on them or pay them no mind. I had a 65 yo women at a sports bar tell me she wanted to F me after talking to me for 10 minutes. Hot chicks don't do that. If ugly chick is a co worker she will immediately hit on you if you are friends. Hot chicks are so much work no matter your age. The 19 yo cashier at Taco Bell was smoking, she must get hit on 20 times a day. The song brickhouse was written for this girl. My late 40's ass at that time would have looked creepy trying to get a date, but I sure as hell would have paid her. That's why I love Brazil. There are a few of those types at one of the termas every time. They aren't in huge abundance anymore since help closed, but they are still there.
To sum up, I go to Brazil to bang hot chicks because I'm too lazy to hit on them in the states. I don't go for ugly chicks.
Mr Enternational
06-22-23, 13:50
I talk to all of my dates at length before I fuck them & I am talkin hundreds of paisas & I am hard pressed to remember just one who spoke highly of the local men. Of course, hookers are at the lower end of the strata but still, almost 100% speak ill of local men & that is why they are not livin the dream of a husband, children, a house etc. Etc. If a guy was treating my prospective dates good, they would not be selling their snatch for a pittance, Mr. Know=it=all Enternational.Since you seem to only talk to hookers I guess you would not know that women that are not hookers talk about local men the same way. It has nothing to do with whether they are selling pussy or not. It works the same way as guys that come on this board and talk about the women where they are from. Really. Is every chick where you come from fat and bitchy?
You made two valid points. (1) Prepagos often have daddy issues that permeate their other interactions with men. (2) Prepagos are not the sum total of Colombian womanhood. The second point appears to be a distinction without a difference to some of us.
I talk to all of my dates at length before I fuck them & I am talkin hundreds of paisas & I am hard pressed to remember just one who spoke highly of the local men. Of course, hookers are at the lower end of the strata but still, almost 100% speak ill of local men & that is why they are not livin the dream of a husband, children, a house etc. Etc. If a guy was treating my prospective dates good, they would not be selling their snatch for a pittance, Mr. Know=it=all Enternational.
I'm headed back to Medellin next week and my semi-pro novia invited me to a family finca party to meet her grandmother and the rest of her extended family. Any idea what I'm in for?You'll be required to give grandma a rim job. Don't forget that the correct term is "Beso Negro. " Afterwards, all the men in the family will spank you with bamboo while singing the Colombian National Anthem. At midnight everyone finds a goat to molest. Kind of like Friday night in rural Alabama, but in Spanish.
There will be food, drink and music. Some people will probably be dancing and will urge you to join them. The older generation will be interested in talking to you. The party will probably last until 2 or 3 am. Bring some special snack from home to share. My current favorite is a jar or 2 of bread and butter pickles. Treat it like a family reunion.
This is a roundabout way of saying girls are keen to use guys as ATMs. It's all good as long as the sex is to your liking.Well gee. I wasn't addressing direct pay-4-play but let's not be naive here. We all pay in one way or another. Unless you are a gigolo and the woman pays you.
As you are in fact their grandfather's age, that's what you want to think but it's self-delusion. To them it's like eating a bad meal for money, and if married to grandpa they are very likely to cheat with men they are attracted to.
Also one doesn't need to live in Colombia to provide birthday gifts and the like or even fill the role of "novio. " Many have a number of foreign men with this designation while the real novio is close to their age and Colombian. In fact good spending novios from afar are surely often preferred as they have to fuck them less.How would you know? Have you ever been out on a date that wasn't transactional in nature? I didn't think so.
I talk to all of my dates at length before I fuck them & I am talkin hundreds of paisas & I am hard pressed to remember just one who spoke highly of the local men. Of course, hookers are at the lower end of the strata but still, almost 100% speak ill of local men & that is why they are not livin the dream of a husband, children, a house etc. Etc. If a guy was treating my prospective dates good, they would not be selling their snatch for a pittance, Mr. Know=it=all Enternational.If you are a young heaux and a more seasoned heaux is giving you advice wouldn't the vet say, "Tell 'them that men from his country are amazing and our young men are all douchebags".
Just seems like good sales technique to build rapport.
Why would a girl give it up for free to any John who approaches and talks to her? They know why John is in Colombia. Also, you assume that every John has game, speaks Spanish and is at least half decent looking, and this is not always the case. You have been talking a lot lately about "messing" with girls for free, if you can still pull that off, good for you, but then what are you doing on a mongering forum? My understanding is that you mess with average or below average looking girls, fucking them for free is not a big deal. Go ahead and try to score a hot chick without paying, and let us know how that goes.She wouldn't, not to "any John."
Why would any man assume the "any John" role?
I used to spend my time in strip clubs. I behaved just like anyone else, "any John", and only got attention from the ones wanting money. Then I learned to not be "any John. " I stopped approaching strippers and started just talking with girls.
Instead of spending $200 or more trying to get a girl interested in me, I would end up spending $50 and half the girls, the bouncers, cook and manager would drop by to say Hello,. A few of the girls took me to lunch or dinner, their treat. 4 ended up renting my spare bedroom at different times, several of them hired me to move them. For 1 week I was driving a stripper's Corvette, while she arranged an indoor parking spot for it. Another always asked me to take her to and from the airport, leaving her Infiniti with me as long as I fed her cats while she was away.
And some of them would fuck me for free.
If you approach any woman with the goal of getting her to fuck for money, the only good outcome is you might find one to fuck you for money.
If you approach any woman, just to talk, be friendly, get to know them, if you're the least bit interesting, some will be interested. It doesn't matter if you're the right age, weight or height. All that matters is that you're a nice guy who can carry a conversation. If so, there's a decent chance you'll walk out with a Whatsapp number.
Of course, in Colombia, if you're not willing to invest the time and effort into learning the language, it's going to be difficult.
Spot on information from DiscoverFL. Only thing I will add: those slots have almost dried up. For various reasons, they are severely limiting the volume of girls during the day. That's sad because despite what's been reported here, the daytime action was sufficient. In the past couple years, you might have 5-10 girls hanging out. It was a low-pressure, relaxed environment, which is my style. Now? They are severely restricting girls during the day and they are scheduling them out weeks in advance. The result: fewer choices and girls far more anxious to cash in on "their" day.I'm thinking about setting up a welcome cita with an old fave when I get back to Casa Blanca soon. Any recent reports of the coverage of young ladies by la piscina in the 4:00 to 6:00 range (late afternoon, early evening).
If fresh reports say the pool area is crowded during that time I may wait to book an advanced meeting and just socialize with the ladies who are around.
This is a roundabout way of saying girls are keen to use guys as ATMs. It's all good as long as the sex is to your liking.Is anyone going to man up and say that even if the girl is not charing them for sex that they spend COP on a girl that has "real" interest in them?
I will.
I have a girl in Colombia. And she is into me for me. And when I am there I spend money on her. And when I am not there I send her money.
Now I will stand back and let people call me dumb, stupid, Western Union Novio (don't use it), Simp or any number of derogatory terms they wish to use to make them feel better after reading about how a situation works for me and the sex is to my liking. A poster said that you cannot have it both ways. That you can pay girls to fuck you. And I would argue that just because you give money to a girl and you are fucking them that does not make you her client or her your prostitute.
I am complete agreement that there is some wack thinking up in here (my opinion) and maybe a step back is in order. However you choose to get your pussy is fine with me. Just don't try to tell me that the way you get your pussy is better than my way of getting pussy. Tell me HOW you get your pussy. That is what I am interested in.
Lastly, we are all just throwing around our opinions up in here. No one has proof that his way or what he is thinking is the right thing or the only way.
I talk to all of my dates at length before I fuck them & I am talkin hundreds of paisas & I am hard pressed to remember just one who spoke highly of the local men. Of course, hookers are at the lower end of the strata but still, almost 100% speak ill of local men & that is why they are not livin the dream of a husband, children, a house etc. Etc. If a guy was treating my prospective dates good, they would not be selling their snatch for a pittance, Mr. Know=it=all Enternational.Depending on how I lead a conversation, I can get the same girl to say Colombian men treat her badly, and that Colombian men treat her great.
Almost any Colombian will agree with what you say, no matter what you say. It's deeply ingrained in their culture.
I also spend time talking to girls. Not one has ever mentioned how Colombian men treat her, what she thinks about gringos who overpay, or what she thinks about US politics. I never talk to a working girl about those things, so they never come up.
In the past I spent quite a bit of time with a working girl and her boyfriend. I think now they've been together for about 12 years and have 2 kids together. My impression is that he mostly treats her right.
However, they're poor and he has minimal work skills. He works when he can and she works when she can. Treating her well doesn't feed the family.
Cuba Tourist
06-22-23, 16:35
There must be a list of casas on here but I cannot find it. Can any one point me in the right direction? I am in Medellin for the next week or so so if anyone wants to get together, please send me a PM. Thanks so much.
I've lived long enough now to know that hot chicks and ugly chicks are 2 different skill sets. Ugly girls are starved for male attention and sex. Guys don't hit on them or pay them no mind. I had a 65 yo women at a sports bar tell me she wanted to F me after talking to me for 10 minutes. Hot chicks don't do that. If ugly chick is a co worker she will immediately hit on you if you are friends. Hot chicks are so much work no matter your age. The 19 yo cashier at Taco Bell was smoking, she must get hit on 20 times a day. The song brickhouse was written for this girl. My late 40's ass at that time would have looked creepy trying to get a date, but I sure as hell would have paid her. That's why I love Brazil. There are a few of those types at one of the termas every time. They aren't in huge abundance anymore since help closed, but they are still there.
To sum up, I go to Brazil to bang hot chicks because I'm too lazy to hit on them in the states. I don't go for ugly chicks.Exactly. This is why I don't pay to fuck ugly or average chicks. Why would I, if I can get them for free with relatively low effort? Doesn't make any sense. I only pay to fuck women I can't score for free, or women that would take a lot of my time and effort if I tried to fuck them for free. Ugly chicks don't make my dick happy, so I don't care about them, p4 p or not.
How would you know? Have you ever been out on a date that wasn't transactional in nature? I didn't think so.You can sugarcoat it as you please, but what Paulie said is damn right. It is a human nature. Take the money or possibility of inheriting shit out of the equation, and your average gringo grandpa becomes a regular pensioner playing dominoes at your local park.
Mr Enternational
06-22-23, 17:24
Well gee. I wasn't addressing direct pay-4-play but let's not be naive here. We all pay in one way or another. Unless you are a gigolo and the woman pays you.We may all spend money, but spending money when you are with a chick is not the same as paying to sleep with a chick. There is a difference. You are going to spend money in life whether a chick is with you or not. Hell, I could even go to an expensive steak house and spend $100 when I am alone but go to a buffet and spend $25 for 2 people when I am with a chick.
You are not wrong in my opinion.
Is anyone going to man up and say that even if the girl is not charing them for sex that they spend COP on a girl that has "real" interest in them?
I will.
I have a girl in Colombia. And she is into me for me. And when I am there I spend money on her. And when I am not there I send her money.
Now I will stand back and let people call me dumb, stupid, Western Union Novio (don't use it), Simp or any number of derogatory terms they wish to use to make them feel better after reading about how a situation works for me and the sex is to my liking. A poster said that you cannot have it both ways. That you can pay girls to fuck you. And I would argue that just because you give money to a girl and you are fucking them that does not make you her client or her your prostitute.
I am complete agreement that there is some wack thinking up in here (my opinion) and maybe a step back is in order. However you choose to get your pussy is fine with me. Just don't try to tell me that the way you get your pussy is better than my way of getting pussy.
They are women. They are not some sacred untouchable alien orb. So because I ate pizza today, I can not eat a ribeye tomorrow? Because I drove my car today, I can not ride my motorcycle tomorrow or my bicycle the next day? There is no either or or mutual exclusivity with paying chicks or fucking chicks for free. You know that both can be done right?
Where did you get that understanding from?I never said those quotes.
I am an ugly chick, old woman magnet. I don't know if that means I'm ugly, and don't realize it, or my being friendly to all coworkers including ugly ones make them think I'm interested. Weird thing is, I never flirt with unattractive girls. If I'm on lunch break with them, I will talk to them, but I never show sexual interest. One girl said I must be gay because I turned her down. She was a solid 4.
Hot girls on the other hand are like a riddle. You won't solve it unless you say and do and act in a way that triggers her attraction. That takes time.
Mr Enternational
06-22-23, 21:53
I never said those quotes.I know man. It was MB, but the website software mistakenly quoted it to you and since the site owner will not take me off moderation I could not go back and change it.
I've had both normal girls I've dated and working girls tell me horror stories about Colombian guys, which has always made me assume they act worse than guys in the US and Europe. However, there are some hard stats that help illustrate the differences between Colombia and Western developed countries:
1) according to a recent study by Tinder / Bumble of over 600,000 Colombians 8 in 10 guys were unfaithful to their partners and 6 in 10 women were unfaithful to their partner. I'm attaching the link. It's in Spanish but it's amusing. Colombia is number 2 for unfaithfulness behind Brazil in Latin America.
https://noticias.caracoltv.com/actualidad/colombia-es-el-segundo-pais-con-mas-infieles-en-latinoamerica-segun-estudios-internacionales-rg10
2) Colombia has a way higher level of femicides than the US or Europe (femicides women who are murdered due to their gender). In 2019 there were 570 reported in Colombia a country of over 50 million million. There were 470 reported in the US, a country of over 330 million, and the US is known as the country with the most per capita in the developed world. I had an interesting chat about this with a girl that is studying law in Medellin a while back. I used 2019 because I could easily find stats for that year for both countries.
I think infidelity for men in particular has to do with the culture and the legal system. Men are taught throughout Latin America that having a lot of women is a sign of being a successful man. My father-in-law, who is from Central America, for example, has three or four kids outside of wedlock. Secondly, there are no legal consequences practically for committing violence against women or abandoning kids. I know a couple of women in Medellin who have tried to get child support for their kids from a deadbeat dad but its taken years and both are still waiting for that money (both have six-year-olds). Most don't even bother. As we've seen with scopings, roberries, etc. , the fiscalia (I. E. Prosecutor) does a pretty poor job of investigating and prosecuting most crimes.
I lost count of how many hookers I've been with in Mexico Brazil or Colombia that were texting their boyfriends or husbands after we were done. They had no clue she was a hooker or cheating. Most people can't do monogamy unless they have no options.
OldSchool318
06-23-23, 00:12
I have a friend from Panama here in the states and she is adamant that every Colombiana she has ever met is actually a prostitute and will take $$$ for sex because it's a part of their culture somehow.
Don't know if that is exactly true however I will say even the Colombianas I have had in a dating situation called me Papi. Ajajajajja.
I dunno but I absolutely love them and plan to fuck their pussies mouths and assholes until my Dick falls off.
Tonight was my first time in and around Parque Lleras since the traffic barriers were installed. I really like it, but I've never gone there looking for chicas. It appeared the only automobile traffic allowed inside the barriers was for deliveries, and going to / from the parking garage across from Hooters. I imagine they accommodate taxis going to the hotels to pick up and drop off luggage. The loud bar across from Patrick's had turned down their volume. I think a person could actually hear the sports broadcast in Patrick's now. Many of the bars and restaurants had tables set up in the streets. The hotel across from Lleras Town had three flood lights shining right in the face of anyone walking from the west and south towards the hotel. I hope that will be changed.
AfternoonSnack
06-23-23, 16:00
You'll be required to give grandma a rim job. Don't forget that the correct term is "Beso Negro. " Afterwards, all the men in the family will spank you with bamboo while singing the Colombian National Anthem. At midnight everyone finds a goat to molest. Kind of like Friday night in rural Alabama, but in Spanish.
There will be food, drink and music. Some people will probably be dancing and will urge you to join them. The older generation will be interested in talking to you. The party will probably last until 2 or 3 am. Bring some special snack from home to share. My current favorite is a jar or 2 of bread and butter pickles. Treat it like a family reunion.Thanks brother. I'll probably try to slip away with the abuela before the goat part starts. Sounds like we'll be on pretty good terms by then anyway.
Something we take for granted in the first world is public space design standards. It's not unusual to have to squint or shade your eyes to see past bright spotlights directed at eye level. Sometimes in restaurants I have to angle my chair away from spotlight glare to read the menu or see my table mate. I think part of the problem is the difference between the average height of Colombians and gringos. You have to be really careful with blinding lights while you are walking on broken sidewalks and navigating random deep holes. Some of the buildings around Milla de Oro have floor mounted spotlights on stairs shining into your eyes. It's funny once you get used to it but dangerous until you do.
Tonight was my first time in and around Parque Lleras since the traffic barriers were installed. I really like it, but I've never gone there looking for chicas. It appeared the only automobile traffic allowed inside the barriers was for deliveries, and going to / from the parking garage across from Hooters. I imagine they accommodate taxis going to the hotels to pick up and drop off luggage. The loud bar across from Patrick's had turned down their volume. I think a person could actually hear the sports broadcast in Patrick's now. Many of the bars and restaurants had tables set up in the streets. The hotel across from Lleras Town had three flood lights shining right in the face of anyone walking from the west and south towards the hotel. I hope that will be changed.
Tonight was my first time in and around Parque Lleras since the traffic barriers were installed. I really like it, but I've never gone there looking for chicas. It appeared the only automobile traffic allowed inside the barriers was for deliveries, and going to / from the parking garage across from Hooters. I imagine they accommodate taxis going to the hotels to pick up and drop off luggage. The loud bar across from Patrick's had turned down their volume. I think a person could actually hear the sports broadcast in Patrick's now. Many of the bars and restaurants had tables set up in the streets. The hotel across from Lleras Town had three flood lights shining right in the face of anyone walking from the west and south towards the hotel. I hope that will be changed.It will be interesting to see if, and how long until some of the still shuttered bar / eating places around the Park re-open.
With the increased amount of foreigners living here now, and tourists, I could see the whole area becoming as full and vibrant as the Provenza area within a few years.
It's all good red, brown, olive, morena, guera. I personally love the white skinned Paisas which is why Medellin is my favorite mongering City. I'll be heading to Colombia again mid August for a month and can't wait to get back.
Brother TK you are so right. During my first trip to Medellin I was actually disappointed by the way the girls looked. Yes, there were a few stunners out there. But all the hype I had read about Medellin and the girls of Colombia simply was not true according to a "boots on the ground" observation with my own eyes.
That being said, there is going to be someone who jumps up (beats their chest and calls me names because I am new to the Medellin forum and have strong opinions they disagree with)' and tells me to go someplace else if I don't like it. And to them I just put two middle fingers up! I'll go where I want, when I want and write what want about it.) I had a great trip! And I got all the sex I wanted. And I learned that I simply prefer the skin shade of my girls to be butterscotch to dark chocolate. And to have some ass. Because the most beautiful Colombianas that I saw looked like that.
So it is off to Cali at some point to explore a place I have been told has more of girls of my preferred type. The girls of Medellin that I saw on the street fell on the numeric attractiveness scale that would fit a Standard Deviation curve. A beauty standard that I have found to be consistent the world over. In my opinion, the girls of Medellin are no more attractive or less attractive than I have found during my travels throughout the world.
Yep, this happens quite a bit after the 3rd date, I usually just tell them that I wouldn't be comfortable doing that. It could be a perfectly good time but I tend to err on the side of caution.
I'm headed back to Medellin next week and my semi-pro novia invited me to a family finca party to meet her grandmother and the rest of her extended family. Any idea what I'm in for?
I'm headed back to Medellin next week and my semi-pro novia invited me to a family finca party to meet her grandmother and the rest of her extended family. Any idea what I'm in for?If you have Spanish speaking skills, or let's say you understand a lot of Spanish and can converse, I would go to the party for sure.
There will be lot's of booze and probably some very good food as well.
If your limited to using a translator all the time it might be awkward for you.
If you go, bring a couple bottles of liquor for the party, everybody will love you. LOL.
I have really had a great massage from Lexi which in a independent. She has a nice in-call location close to UniCentro in Laureles. I did the 90 minute which did include full service and BBBJ on the flip.
I saw her 3 times on my last trip I enjoyed it so much. Another one is Spa Manos de Seda, more of a legit independent masseuse which has a pretty erotic style to it. Amatsu is really good if your looking for a good legit massage. Spa Therapias Medellin $150,000 90 minutes legit spot. I enjoy my massages a lot and will usually get one every other day when I'm visiting.
Had a very relaxing weekend in Medellin getting trying out some erotic massage parlors.
1 - Luxuri Tentaciones (can be found on mileroticos by searching 'Luxuri') - I pre-arranged a 1 HR session with Sofia (180 k) the good news is she is even more stunning than the photos on the website. The bad news is the location is a dump. It is on the first floor of a confusing apartment complex and smells like trash. The massage was nothing to write home about but got OWO and FS for 180 k. I'd recommend an outcall next time.
2 - Atenea (Spa Atenea on google) - I chose Heidy and she was exactly my type, slender and clean shaven. 1 HR massage for 200 k the massage itself was just okay, she was a little rough for my liking but the handjob was the best I've ever had, she clearly knew what she was doing. No option for FS but the happy ending was amazing.
3 - Spa in San Diego Neighborhood (no name yet) - found a massage parlor in an apartment building near Centro Comercial San Diego and booked with Paula. They appear to be new and can only be found on mileroticos, search "San Diego" under masajes and you will find a few postings with similar descriptions, just different photos and phone numbers. Each masseuse appears to be independent, but shares the common studio. Paula was stunning, 150 k for 1 HR massage. Definitely the best massage of the trip, body-to-body and touching was allowed (including FIV) but no FS. HJ was great but did not come close to Heidy at Atenea.
I have done the bigger "name-brand" parlors in Medellin before (Om Spa, Tantra, Fantasia, etc.) and am starting to like the smaller ones better. I would not recommend Luxuri for a straight-up massage, but the others listed above were both more than adequate.
AfternoonSnack
06-24-23, 03:41
Yep, this happens quite a bit after the 3rd date, I usually just tell them that I wouldn't be comfortable doing that. It could be a perfectly good time but I tend to err on the side of caution.I've already said yes so I'm committed. Based on our history I trust her. I'm just not sure what I'm getting into with a family finca party.
If you have Spanish speaking skills, or let's say you understand a lot of Spanish and can converse, I would go to the party for sure.
There will be lot's of booze and probably some very good food as well.
If your limited to using a translator all the time it might be awkward for you.
If you go, bring a couple bottles of liquor for the party, everybody will love you. LOL.I'm more in the "understand a lot of Spanish and can converse" category, but I can get by. She doesn't speak any english, so she knows my skills.
Thanks for the tip on bringing a gift. JjBee62 mentioned the same thing.
John Gault
06-24-23, 16:08
I've already said yes so I'm committed. Based on our history I trust her. I'm just not sure what I'm getting into with a family finca party.
I'm more in the "understand a lot of Spanish and can converse" category, but I can get by. She doesn't speak any english, so she knows my skills.
Thanks for the tip on bringing a gift. JjBee62 mentioned the same thing.Someone there will be more than happy to go to the store for you if you forget to bring a few bottles.
There must be a list of casas on here but I cannot find it. Can any one point me in the right direction? I am in Medellin for the next week or so so if anyone wants to get together, please send me a PM. Thanks so much.World Travel 69 has a list that's maintained over at: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List.
You may have to go back a page or two for the Google Map, but it's there.
DonMedellin
06-24-23, 19:07
How is the lineup and service at Energy these days? I've read mixed review of this place. I went once in 2022 and the lineup and service was pretty average. How is it now?
This is pretty much a vacation that I squeezed in at the last moment. I see that no one is posting reports. I see a bunch of mongers here so it surprises me that people are willing to say little. I am coming from Bay Area (Nor Cal).
I usually fly out of SFO on JetBlue but their schedule has changed and they don't have flights to Medellin anymore. While they still fly there there are no connecting flights. It used to be FLL but I guess it's seasnal. I took a flight from SJC to PHX to MIA. The flight to PHX had a 9 hour layover. It was at 11:58 pm so I got hotel room. I got snacks and ate some food at hotel and took nap. I got back to the airport and was pretty packed. It was okay American Airlines are more organized than JetBlue they make sure people line up in section that they paid for. I noticed the employees are mostly women and much older. The amenities on the airline are less and don't have t. V screens you have to use your phone or tablet. They don't have food except cookies and did not have a blanket and pillow but oddly on the MIA- MDE morning flight they did. That's for people who want to know about flights cost me around $800.
Day One.
I get to my AirBNB in Laureles around 3 pm feeling real funky the hotel in Phoenix didn't have a functioning shower. So, I get squared away and at about 4:30 pm I heard a pop, pop and thought it was firecrackers or something and then I heard a lot more. I was on the 5th floor and saw people from the bar running after the gun man and some people running away. It was crazy It was a different experience for Laureles.
So. I had Laura come over and I mentioned her in my post on Medellin. I had saw her a few months ago but didn't post that trip. She's 22 brunette I think 36 DD about 5'4" not skinny lots of meat but it looks real good and curvy. She has a light complexion with some Tatts I don't think too much of. Laura comes from a less fortunate barrio but speaks almost perfect English. She's a college student.
I sent Laura an Uber and she got here and into the lobby that is unmanned and electronically locked. Some dude let her in and there was a couple guy in his fifties and his wife in her 40's and they were arguing in the lobby. This lady was seething and Laura said she was telling her "I know you don't live here" and " I am going to call the police. " It was after 10 pm and I apologized to the lady and said she is with me. I was shocked and Laura was shaken and the husband didn't say a word. I guess it was some sort of classism.
The sex we had was nearly outstanding. I have two women that I regularly see but the other one in my opinion is close to 9-10 it depends. People who have the'm me say she is "hot. " That's true but the sex is not better. Laura is more experienced but hasn't been around the block a lot. (Not to say other girl has) but I got my shoe polished for at 30 minutes and until I had her stop. She has a technique that isn't fast but is on point. I had my right hand middle finger in her pussy while she sucked my. At my age I don't have many shots in me but she swallowed one. Thank goodness I have meds from Roman $72 for a bunch of packets. I was tired so I turned her over busted my nut inside her. It was wet slippery pussy and when I was done I couldn't do anymore so I played with her big tits for awhile and she came. It was after midnight and I was tired. I think she liked my bed. I can't sleep with people clutching on me. I paid her and she left.
Day 2 - I went to Plaza Botero to look at the talent. The women out there are so sexy. It's a place worth visiting in the daytime only. What I like about Botero is it's kind of like Tijuana where the talent is lined up. I think the girls dress sexier than Lleras Park by far. I saw this short tanned girl with curves in a white pleated tennis skirt with no panties. She was walking by I wanted to run after her but had another meeting scheduled that evening.
I had a meeting with Yoli from Tinder. She was a morenita and was 22 years old. Her pics looked great but they were old. She was actually 30 with 3 kids. She said she wanted 250 and I agreed. I wanted bare and she thought about it said "ok. " When we were about to fuck she was like "how many other girls do I fuck'" I was taken aback. She doesn't speak English and my Spanish is bad but I told her why did she come if that was a problem? I didn't say anything else but knew it wasn't going to be good. We went bare and she was really good at giving head. She had suction that was quite different. You can see some baby damage but nice big titts and pretty shaved pussy. It was tight but not loose like a goose. I tried to kiss her twice and she turned her head. We were fucking I missionary and she was not liking to to fuck bare (germaphobe) I tried to prove it to her that I was ok. I got attitude and while we were in missionary I pulled out like Ed Powers and shot my mustard all over her. Then she demanded 50 mil more. I gave it to her and then she had the nerve to ask if I wanted to meet again. I said I didn't know. Then she went over my sent and was washing the dishes. I got her an Uber and she left. What a waste of time and money.
I lost count of how many hookers I've been with in Mexico Brazil or Colombia that were texting their boyfriends or husbands after we were done. They had no clue she was a hooker or cheating. Most people can't do monogamy unless they have no options.Do not kid yourself. They know. It's latin America man. I've been exploring this place for many years.
I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.
Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.
They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency.
Now obviously, a large group of men will be annoyingly loud. There are all-star nations of imbecile tourists. Israelis, Brits, and Aussies are some of the worst in the world. But the difference is that those tourists are usually more well-traveled than our homegrown hooligans and therefore they know how to take it down a notch.
All I can say is that these guys better watch it or else they'll make the news if one of them decides to mouth off in Parque Lleras. I hope they try to pull their shenanigans in Castilla or Manrique. That would be hilarious! And if you mess with the police, you will end up in a bad place.
Anyway, before some of you get all butt-hurt and try to cancel me, just ask yourself: Am I lying?
-Loki.
P.S. Don't bother messaging me privately unless you have something intelligent to say.
RichTheFact
06-26-23, 00:14
This is pretty much a vacation that I squeezed in at the last moment. I see that no one is posting reports. I see a bunch of mongers here so it surprises me that people are willing to say little. I am coming from Bay Area (Nor Cal).
I usually fly out of SFO on JetBlue but their schedule has changed and they don't have flights to Medellin anymore. While they still fly there there are no connecting flights. It used to be FLL but I guess it's seasnal. I took a flight from SJC to PHX to MIA. The flight to PHX had a 9 hour layover. It was at 11:58 pm so I got hotel room. I got snacks and ate some food at hotel and took nap. I got back to the airport and was pretty packed. It was okay American Airlines are more organized than JetBlue they make sure people line up in section that they paid for. I noticed the employees are mostly women and much older. The amenities on the airline are less and don't have t. V screens you have to use your phone or tablet. They don't have food except cookies and did not have a blanket and pillow but oddly on the MIA- MDE morning flight they did. That's for people who want to know about flights cost me around $800.
.Haha that's crazy, I'm on a similar flight, except out of SFO with American, I have a 10 hour layover in Phoenix, then off to Miami, and then to Medellin where I will arrive around 1 pm in a little over two weeks from now. And wow, 250 seems a bit steep, but I guess its a situational thing. Personally, I have cultivated a few friendships / soon to be intimate relationships with some just wanting to party, and some making it explicitly clear that they are serious about work and if that's not what I want them I'm barking up the wrong tree. Tinder nets about 2-3 matches a day and for every twenty I talk to, maybe 3 to 5 are conversations that turn to WhatsApp contacts, whereby their status updates say alot about their lifestyle, I. E. Whether or not they are in a hotel every weekend; but most I have noticed seem to keep jobs in factories producing things like plastics, Levi's Jeans, or some sell clothing and things of that nature, while others will just upload annoying tik tok videos of them lip syncing to some songs.
Anywho, I have booked a place in Poblado, my Spanish is top notch, and I have a few contacts who don't mind their WhatsApp being passed out if anyone is interested just drop me a pm. I have finally got the process rolling and should be upgraded with regards to my account either later today or tomorrow. I'm just looking to have a good time, go out to some bars / clubs, and then come back and have a fun filled night of "beneficio mutuo" as they say in their Tinder profiles. Additionally, I have some family in Cartagena, so when I mention this I feel (hope) that this serves as somewhat of a deterrent for any of the nefarious types with a lowlife scumbag directing their moves from the shadows.
I'm also down to check out some of the Spas such as Loutron or New LIfe, in fact I definitely will as the prices seem to be very reasonable and the reviews are pretty good. Mongo mentioned $150,000 for 90 minutes which seems like a heck of a deal!
I know the opinions on this place are mixed but I would like if someone can provide recent intel. What is the best time to go for the best talent? Is BBBJ an extra charge and if so, how much? Also, I understand its not viewable from the road, up on top of a hill. What should I look out for if my Uber driver does not know? I will have boots on the ground in 3 weeks, if anyone would like to hang out for a beer or two send me a message.
I know the opinions on this place are mixed but I would like if someone can provide recent intel. What is the best time to go for the best talent? Is BBBJ an extra charge and if so, how much? Also, I understand its not viewable from the road, up on top of a hill. Usually the most girls are there on the weekends. Everything is negotiable once you get into the room. Kissing is extra, BBBJ extra, whatever the girl thinks she can get- its a fight zone. That is why I do not like it anymore. Yes, you go up many hills. Winding road. Taxi drivers know how to get there, most.
I found a soft spot on the floor right in front of the main desk. Has anyone else noticed also? Of course, I used to renovate houses.
I have a friend from Panama here in the states and she is adamant that every Colombiana she has ever met is actually a prostitute and will take $$$ for sex because it's a part of their culture somehow.Yes, the Colombianas in Panama are all hookers. They can get a 90 day visa, no problem, so they go there to fuck and raise money for their family back home. Alot of jealousy because Panama used to be a part of Colombia many years ago, now they look at each other with distain and jealousy and Panamanians give Colombianas a bad rap just like Venies.
Mr Enternational
06-26-23, 14:51
Yes, the Colombianas in Panama are all hookers. They can get a 90 day visa, no problem, so they go there to fuck and raise money for their family back home. Alot of jealousy because Panama used to be a part of Colombia many years ago, now they look at each other with distain and jealousy and Panamanians give Colombianas a bad rap just like Venies.Say what? One Colombian from Medellin that I used to messed with has lived in Panama for the 17 years I have known her. She has always worked in a factory there. My ex girlfriend from Barranquilla who I met when she was living in Venezuela has lived in Panama for maybe the last 13 years and she is a hair stylist. Last year I paid her a friendly visit when I was in Panama and there was a bunch of them (Colombian and Venezuelan guys and girls) living in a high rise condo together. It was like how they say about Mexican or Vietnamese people in the States. Every 5 minutes a new mf would come out of the back from somewhere. I was like how many mfs live here? Eons ago a chick I was messing with in Barranquilla was also trying to go to Panama to do hair. When I went to Barranquilla a couple of weeks ago I was not able to see one of my normal chicks because she, her son, and her sister were going to Panama for a few days to go shopping and to the beach. You guys got to get out to meet some normal people; everybody is not a hooker.
Try to get in a few days in Choco. There isn't much tourism infrastructure but the nightlife is fire. For reference, the club district is like a whole neighborhood of Jennylao like places.
Brother TK you are so right. During my first trip to Medellin I was actually disappointed by the way the girls looked. Yes, there were a few stunners out there. But all the hype I had read about Medellin and the girls of Colombia simply was not true according to a "boots on the ground" observation with my own eyes.
That being said, there is going to be someone who jumps up (beats their chest and calls me names because I am new to the Medellin forum and have strong opinions they disagree with)' and tells me to go someplace else if I don't like it. And to them I just put two middle fingers up! I'll go where I want, when I want and write what want about it.) I had a great trip! And I got all the sex I wanted. And I learned that I simply prefer the skin shade of my girls to be butterscotch to dark chocolate. And to have some ass. Because the most beautiful Colombianas that I saw looked like that.
So it is off to Cali at some point to explore a place I have been told has more of girls of my preferred type. The girls of Medellin that I saw on the street fell on the numeric attractiveness scale that would fit a Standard Deviation curve. A beauty standard that I have found to be consistent the world over. In my opinion, the girls of Medellin are no more attractive or less attractive than I have found during my travels throughout the world.
I haven't really relied on these boards in years. So I haven't posted in quite a while. But. I need to post after visiting Energy recently. From about 2012 to 2020 I was a regular at Energy and I was always able to find a good time there. The talent of the girls is not really why I am writing.
The reason for this post is:
I have noticed that since the pandemic ended, there have been a lot more visitors of the. How shall we say it. Melanin-rich variety from the United States.
In a country as diverse as Colombia with a somewhat equally diverse tourist pool, these folks are quite easily discernible in a crowd regardless of that diversity due to their easy-to-spot behaviors:
They are loud as they are in the States. At least one of them in every group is wearing sandals with socks. They have no real self-awareness when they are out in public (similar to the States I guess). However, they SHOULD be more self-aware since they are not in their own country and can't protect themselves legally should they end up in an altercation. If they are emboldened to act the fool in Colombia, they will get deported and banned, perhaps incarcerated.
Yes, I know. Before you berate me, I am very well aware that everyone is here to have a good time. However, if Colombia (Medellin in particular) becomes like the Dominican Republic, it will be a sad day. I hope they find themselves some "get right" if they continue to visit Colombia.
Anyway. Back to the incident at Energy. A group of nine of them came in the other day. It was disgraceful.
They cat-called the girls unnecessarily when they came out to present themselves. It was embarrassing to hear them calling out numbers like they were at a Magic City auction. One of these "gentlemen" was talking out loud in English referring to one of the girls as "his working girl". I wish someone would give them an etiquette course when they applied for their passport. It's frustrating because I leave the States to get away from these types of people. Much to my chagrin, they are here now in larger numbers and with more frequency..Funny you should mention Energy, because something quite similar happened to me about 4 years ago.
I went in and the first waiting room was packed with 6 or 7 guys almost exactly as you described. They were loud, rather rude and pretty obnoxious. They had to have the lineup 3 times because they weren't even paying attention.
All of that worked out in my favor. I got 3 additional lineups and saw a girl who made it obvious she didn't want to get picked by 1 of them, because she wanted me. Turned out to be hands down my best casa experience of all time, and one of my best fucks of all time. I'm surprised someone on the street didn't call the police because of the noise she was making.
I've seen more. A guy standing in the middle of the sidewalk with a huge stack of cash in his hand, yelling at a bus, in English, asking if it went to El Centro. That was probably 6 years ago. Nearly every trip, going back 5 years, I've seen groups, from 2 or 3 up to 8 or more, waiting in the immigration line talking loudly about mongering.
A refreshing change of pace when I flew into Bogota in February, there were 3 guys politely trying to get through the line because they needed to catch a connection to Cartagena. Their behavior was exemplary and everyone helped push them to the front of the line. Such nice young men, thanking everyone. Of course there was 1 big difference between them and all the loud, rude, obnoxious guys. That melanin thing.
You see, all those assholes, dating back to well before covid, were white. The 3 guys who were nice, considerate and grateful, were black.
Funny thing is, my 1 trip to the DR and I met chill, nice, helpful guys of all types and I saw bad behavior from all types, including a big group of drunk Canadian men and women.
Bad behavior has nothing to do with skin color.
Instead of going through all that, just drop a post saying you despise black people and don't think any of them should be allowed in Colombia. It saves time and you'll still get all the PMs you want from people who feel the same way.
You see, all those assholes, dating back to well before covid, were white. The 3 guys who were nice, considerate and grateful, were black.
Bad behavior has nothing to do with skin color.
Haha. Nice post. On another point, I think it would be easier for bad behaving tourists to 'ruin' a destination like DR bcos that country is so tourist focussed. Whereas a larger city like MDE or BOG can absorb a lot more tourists before bad behaviour starts to stand out. I think its more likely to be seen mainly in the 'tourist pockets' of a large city, such as Pqe Lleras. In any case, one can just move on to a new city with less tourists bcos paid sex is Colombian culture too.
Elvis 2008
06-26-23, 18:46
2) Colombia has a way higher level of femicides than the US or Europe (femicides women who are murdered due to their gender). In 2019 there were 570 reported in Colombia a country of over 50 million million. There were 470 reported in the US, a country of over 330 million, and the US is known as the country with the most per capita in the developed world. I had an interesting chat about this with a girl that is studying law in Medellin a while back. I used 2019 because I could easily find stats for that year for both countries.
I think infidelity for men in particular has to do with the culture and the legal system. Men are taught throughout Latin America that having a lot of women is a sign of being a successful man. My father-in-law, who is from Central America, for example, has three or four kids outside of wedlock. Secondly, there are no legal consequences practically for committing violence against women or abandoning kids. I know a couple of women in Medellin who have tried to get child support for their kids from a deadbeat dad but its taken years and both are still waiting for that money (both have six-year-olds). Most don't even bother. As we've seen with scopings, roberries, etc. , the fiscalia (I. E. Prosecutor) does a pretty poor job of investigating and prosecuting most crimes.Great post, Recondite. I said I had met three women in Colombia who were wife material. At least two of the fathers and at least one of the brothers cheated. Hell, one had a half-sister, the daughter of her father's mistress, she used to hang with.
The one I met in Medellin I was a little leery of because she had a very negative opinion of her father. I could just feel that lack of trust in her with men. Her mother was really sweet but I could sense even as a newcomer how devastating it was that he cheated on her. Her self-esteem seemed to be close to nothing, and she was an amazing woman. Current gal has a high opinion of her father, even though he cheated on her mother, which I think is really important.
The weird part, and maybe this is just true among the upper classes, is most of the girls I have met who are in high school have not dated and are virgins. I think my gal was like that. She was swept off her feet in college, and she got pregnant, and did the Catholic thing and had the child. The guy who got her pregnant has not done shit but beat her up, but there have been others in his family who have been supportive.
Maybe others women meet better guys and get married in college, but there are so many women I have met on line who went to college and got a taste of reality and said "Fuck it, I am not hanging around these broke crude bums" and went for guys who treated them better or had some money.
That is why guys have a chance in Colombia to get women they never would otherwise. Yes, the women are attracted to men with money but also they are so disappointed in the infidelity and mistreatment of Colombian men.
They also have other Colombian women who set a very high standard for looks and servitude. I have been so impressed with the energy, intelligence, kindness, and know how of the middle aged women I have met in Colombia. Some of the younger women imitate their role models, and those are the ones I wanted, but many do not.
RichTheFact
06-26-23, 22:18
Haha. Nice post. On another point, I think it would be easier for bad behaving tourists to 'ruin' a destination like DR bcos that country is so tourist focussed. Whereas a larger city like MDE or BOG can absorb a lot more tourists before bad behaviour starts to stand out. I think its more likely to be seen mainly in the 'tourist pockets' of a large city, such as Pqe Lleras. In any case, one can just move on to a new city with less tourists bcos paid sex is Colombian culture too.The only bad behavior I plan on doing is in the BED with chiquita who's tight, right and looks like she can go aaaallll night! Haha, with that said yes. Tinder is on fire, and many can be had for around the $100-120 range from what I have seen although YMMV; I've got about 50 or so contacts or varying chicas from all Plastic to all natural, . Skinny, chubby, toned. These chicks really run the gamut from what I've seen. Well, I'll be in Medellin with boots on the ground in about 3 weeks, but if anyone wants to chat with a few chicas drop me a line and I'll send you some numbers, you can get to know them at your leisure and feel them out. These are all going to be tinder chicks tho, and I know there are differing opinions about them. Personally, I require them to be available for video calls before I take them seriously. Anyways, drop me a line! Happy hunting all!
AmorPorFavor
06-26-23, 22:55
I know man. It was MB, but the website software mistakenly quoted it to you and since the site owner will not take me off moderation I could not go back and change it.You are on permanent moderation for good reason. All you do is pick fights and find fault with other mongers all day. Plus do a lot of bragging. And very occasionally offer up some useful information.
Mr Enternational
06-27-23, 01:40
You are on permanent moderation for good reason. All you do is pick fights and find fault with other mongers all day. Plus do a lot of bragging. And very occasionally offer up some useful information.I have never understood how people on this website consider it bragging for a person to say they went out with a chick that is not a hooker. I always thought it was something that normal people do since adolescence and is no more of a brag than saying I ate a hamburger today. Bragging would be saying I was driving my Ferrari 120 mph today and the chicks were all over me. Bragging would not be saying last week I went to the beach with Mary Sue who is a nurse at the hospital downtown. But I guess.
LoveItHere
06-27-23, 04:32
You are on permanent moderation for good reason. All you do is pick fights and find fault with other mongers all day. Plus do a lot of bragging. And very occasionally offer up some useful information.I know if I dated all the teachers, doctors, lawyers, models, and all around good girls like him I sure as hell would not have any reason what-so-ever for being on this website and definitely not have 14,000 posts. That kinda sorta screams liar to me.
Try to get in a few days in Choco. There isn't much tourism infrastructure but the nightlife is fire. Whereabouts do you refer to / did you go? Its a huge strip of land from Panama all the way down to Cali.
I said I had met three women in Colombia who were wife material. At least two of the fathers and at least one of the brothers cheated. Hell, one had a half-sister, the daughter of her father's mistress, she used to hang with.
Her mother was really sweet but I could sense even as a newcomer how devastating it was that he cheated on her. ...even though he cheated on her mother, which I think is really important.
...but also they are so disappointed in the infidelity and mistreatment of Colombian men.
Am curious why you think it is important. I prefer the thinking that is more prevalent in some Asian cultures. Where partners accept that their partners have sex with others, as long as they do it discretely, and that it is just sex. It seems to me that the sexual act is really not important. What is important is to be trustworthy, reliable and supportive; that is what "loyal' is in a meaningful sense. To 'cheat' is to plan to leave, to have a relationship with another. That's when sexual relationships can have a serious impact on a long term relationship. But simply having sex with another just for fun. That has no impact on a long term relationship, in fact it can often save it from being tedious. IMO.
Quibdó, good times, including music beyond the standard mix of reggaeton, salsa, cumbia & vallenato. Don't drink the tap water!
Whereabouts do you refer to / did you go? Its a huge strip of land from Panama all the way down to Cali.
QQ. What's the current fare for a white taxi from MDE to El Poblado? I seem to remember it was 90 K COP but it's been a few months since I've been there.
TIA.
QQ. What's the current fare for a white taxi from MDE to El Poblado? I seem to remember it was 90 K COP but it's been a few months since I've been there.
TIA.I think it is now 98 K.
Should be still 90 k. Two months ago I paid 95 K but it was 12 am.
QQ. What's the current fare for a white taxi from MDE to El Poblado? I seem to remember it was 90 K COP but it's been a few months since I've been there.
TIA.
John Gault
06-28-23, 13:52
On 6/1/23 it was 98 K. That has been the same price all year for me.
DiscoverFL
06-28-23, 14:47
On 6/1/23 it was 98 K. That has been the same price all year for me.There is a sign, where you pick up your luggage, that informs tourists how much the taxi is -- and yes it clearly states 98,000 COP if you want the car all to yourself (a shared ride is cheaper, if someone is found to share it with you). But I know some people get a little paranoid as to what the 'right price' should be, so you can just check this sign in case there are any changes. Then you walk out the first cabs you see are white (shared) ones, but they will take you by yourself for the same $98 k COP rate. You'd have to walk further for a yellow non-shared cab, but there's no point in doing that.
Elvis 2008
06-28-23, 15:00
Am curious why you think it is important. I prefer the thinking that is more prevalent in some Asian cultures. Where partners accept that their partners have sex with others, as long as they do it discretely, and that it is just sex. It seems to me that the sexual act is really not important. What is important is to be trustworthy, reliable and supportive; that is what "loyal' is in a meaningful sense. To 'cheat' is to plan to leave, to have a relationship with another..TK, wife material does not refer to fidelity or cheating or even a relationship. Go the 4 minute mark in this video or watch the whole thing it is hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInk1rV2VEg.
It means a woman who is pretty or stunning, good in bed, generous, considerate, and ethical. You do not need to be worried about them spiking your drink or stealing your wallet. They cook you a meal, want to give you a massage after sex, and do your laundry all without you asking. They do all these things because they are happy to do it and not for some quid pro quo.
They are the only types of women guys should even think about committing to, and they are rare.
It does not even refer to looks. In fact, most of the women in the wife category are not stunning because the stunners more often than not are used to having men care for them. They are more likely to be cute than hot.
SlapShot10
06-28-23, 19:22
I end up there over the weekend because I have a weekend warrior buddy in town. Monday night rolls around and I notice I'm missing a credit card. I piece together the weekend and determine it must be at Gusto. I check my app and the last charge is 3:32 a. I then check my DiDi app and my ride left at 2:18 a. So, obviously, I left my card and it was charged at closing time. No problem, even if they marked up the service fee / tip. All good, just want my card back; more so because it's from a US bank. I don't want the hassle of getting a new one.
I show up at 7:00 p to get my card. Security downstairs says there is no card. Two employees getting out the the elevator say there is no card. Everyone is telling me to cancel it and get a new one, EVERYONE. I finally get upstairs and the guy says I didn't pay a tab. I had told him my last charge was 3:32 a but I didn't say that it says GUSTO ENTERTAINMENT on the charge. He says it had to be at another bar because I didn't pay in Gusto. I said, if I didn't pay, then I should have an open tab that I would like to pay. He said no, I didn't pay and I don't have a tab. I remember the girls punching in each beer I ordered, but both bartenders are saying they know my name and I didn't have a tab. I step outside to review my bank app and screenshot the payment. I show the manager. He now shifts to it's not their fault and I should cancel it.
I tell him the best way to go about this is to review the video at 3:32 a and figure out who processed the payment. At that point, we can ask the specific employee if they know anything. If they don't, then I will need to cancel the card. Note: There were no charges on the card after the Gusto charge. This manager is literally laying on a couch telling me he doesn't have time to review the video and I should come back the following day. I said, that really doesn't work for me, the client, because some one could use the card between now and then. He says, so cancel it. I tried to explain the headache of getting a replacement card from the US. I know it's extremely easy to replace a Bancolombia debit card, but that's not the case, for me. He continues on to say if he lost his watch, that's his problem. I ended the conversation by saying if he lost his watch in my house or place of business, I would find his watch, not take a nap on the damn couch while saying I don't have time to help a customer.
Go to La Isla, go to Fase Dos, go to the casas. Gusto is just the same worn-out girls looking for the highest bidder and is not a representation of what Medellin has to offer. There is fantastic information in this thread. Do your research and enjoy. F Gusto! I popped into Conejitas Grille Club (or whatever it's called) across from Botero on Saturday and there were actually a handful of decent looking girls.
Cheers and special Hello, to all the pandemic boys! (I bought an apartment, got a marriage visa, and wasn't seeing enough useful information here to keep checking in).
It means a woman who is pretty or stunning, good in bed, generous, considerate, and ethical. You do not need to be worried about them spiking your drink or stealing your wallet. They cook you a meal, want to give you a massage after sex, and do your laundry all without you asking.
They are the only types of women guys should even think about committing to, and they are rare.
It does not even refer to looks. In fact, most of the women in the wife category are not stunning because the stunners more often than not are used to having men care for them. They are more likely to be cute than hot.Thanks for the reply Elvis but it seems to be completely off topic. I was aksing you why you think having sex outside of a relationship is an important negative act and you refer to it as 'cheating'.
It's great to see you Slapshot. You were one of the bright lights of the pandemic. It's terriffic to see you are here full time and enjoying it. It's fucked up what Gusto did to you. This is a good public service reminder that the place is a classic clip joint staffed by entitled local pond scum.
I end up there over the weekend because I have a weekend warrior buddy in town. Monday night rolls around and I notice I'm missing a credit card. I piece together the weekend and determine it must be at Gusto. I check my app and the last charge is 3:32 a. I then check my DiDi app and my ride left at 2:18 a. So, obviously, I left my card and it was charged at closing time. No problem, even if they marked up the service fee / tip. All good, just want my card back; more so because it's from a US bank. I don't want the hassle of getting a new one.
I show up at 7:00 p to get my card. Security downstairs says there is no card. Two employees getting out the the elevator say there is no card. Everyone is telling me to cancel it and get a new one, EVERYONE. I finally get upstairs and the guy says I didn't pay a tab. I had told him my last charge was 3:32 a but I didn't say that it says GUSTO ENTERTAINMENT on the charge. He says it had to be at another bar because I didn't pay in Gusto. I said, if I didn't pay, then I should have an open tab that I would like to pay. He said no, I didn't pay and I don't have a tab. I remember the girls punching in each beer I ordered, but both bartenders are saying they know my name and I didn't have a tab. I step outside to review my bank app and screenshot the payment. I show the manager. He now shifts to it's not their fault and I should cancel it..
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I tell him the best way to go about this is to review the video at 3:32 a and figure out who processed the payment. At that point, we can ask the specific employee if they know anything. If they don't, then I will need to cancel the card. Note: There were no charges on the card after the Gusto charge. This manager is literally laying on a couch telling me he doesn't have time to review the video and I should come back the following day. I said, that really doesn't work for me, the client, because some one could use the card between now and then. He says, so cancel it. I tried to explain the headache of getting a replacement card from the US. I know it's extremely easy to replace a Bancolombia debit card, but that's not the case, for me. He continues on to say if he lost his watch, that's his problem. I ended the conversation by saying if he lost his watch in my house or place of business, I would find his watch, not take a nap on the damn couch while saying I don't have time to help a customer.
Go to La Isla, go to Fase Dos, go to the casas. Gusto is just the same worn-out girls looking for the highest bidder and is not a representation of what Medellin has to offer. There is fantastic information in this thread. Do your research and enjoy. F Gusto! I popped into Conejitas Grille Club (or whatever it's called) across from Botero on Saturday and there were actually a handful of decent looking girls.Don't use credit cards in Medellin bars and clubs. That's begging for trouble, but if you do, don't leave it behind and don't run any tabs. What makes you think it would be any different at La Isla or Fase Dos? The risks are still high and it's pointless if you have access to cash. During the pandemic about 80% of the content on this thread was from you. You're hardly a newbie so I find this post surprising.
RamDavidson84
06-29-23, 05:31
Don't use credit cards in Medellin bars and clubs. That's begging for trouble, but if you do, don't leave it behind and don't run any tabs. What makes you think it would be any different at La Isla or Fase Dos? The risks are still high and it's pointless if you have access to cash. During the pandemic about 80% of the content on this thread was from you. You're hardly a newbie so I find this post surprising.The problem with only using cash is if you are balling out for the night, you can run out of money and for obvious reasons you don't want to carry around a ton of cash in Medellin. I always keep a burner credit card I use in the clubs to pay for drinks / ladies. The burner card is not my debit card and has a 2 k limit so in a worst case scenario of fraud I would only be out that much. It actually happened to me one time in DR. Out of no where I got charged a ton money after a night out and it was linked to a Walmart in like Alabama or something. My card was with USAA and they refunded the fraud charges but lesson was learned. As corny as it sounds, I also keep cash in a money belt for emergencies. I have a story behind that but it will make me look like an asshole if I post it. Don't ever run out of cash with a hooker with your phone dead and the closest atms not taking your cards! Money belt lesson learned.
Elvis 2008
06-29-23, 07:08
Thanks for the reply Elvis but it seems to be completely off topic. I was aksing you why you think having sex outside of a relationship is an important negative act and you refer to it as 'cheating'.You are looking it from a man's POV where you think having sex for physical purposes is okay, and I get where you are coming from. That is not how women take it. They will tolerate it if you are fooling around and do not get emotional with another woman but none of them like it.
As for why the women do not (and I can just laugh and see Mr. E coming in and disagreeing), it is because they feel inadequate. The women are taught, trained, raised that if they were better women their BFs, husbands would not fool around on them.
Chris Rock said when his wife learned about his cheating she turned into a different women, and that is what I have seen too.
IMO any guy who says my woman does not care if I fool around is not in a real relationship. And with the demographics in Asia and so many men and so few women, the days of the male sex tours IMO will be numbered.
Snake Bite
06-29-23, 16:43
Do you have more information on where near UniCentro? I'm living in the area and it would be perfect when I need to scratch the itch.
I have really had a great massage from Lexi which in a independent. She has a nice in-call location close to UniCentro in Laureles. I did the 90 minute which did include full service and BBBJ on the flip.
SlapShot10
06-29-23, 16:52
Don't use credit cards in Medellin bars and clubs. That's begging for trouble, but if you do, don't leave it behind and don't run any tabs. What makes you think it would be any different at La Isla or Fase Dos? The risks are still high and it's pointless if you have access to cash. During the pandemic about 80% of the content on this thread was from you. You're hardly a newbie so I find this post surprising.Don't leave credit cards at bars. Got it. Much appreciated.
The problem with only using cash is if you are balling out for the night, you can run out of money and for obvious reasons you don't want to carry around a ton of cash in Medellin. This is exactly why. I actually came to Gusto from La 70 where I had to pay cash for all the bottles we drank during the soccer game. I also know both bartenders, but somehow my shit got lost in the shuffle.
It's great to see you Slapshot. You were one of the bright lights of the pandemic. It's terriffic to see you are here full time and enjoying it. It's fucked up what Gusto did to you. This is a good public service reminder that the place is a classic clip joint staffed by entitled local pond scum.It's just the level of customer service. If the guy stood up, took my number, and said, "I'll review the video as soon as I can" . Well, I'd have still ended up canceling the card, but at least I wouldn't leave the place pissed off.
Oh, and just a quick note, I've never used it down here, but it appears BUMBLE is a good alternative to TINDER. My buddy was on it his whole trip and had a few girls from his matches. It seems to me like a less popular app than Tinder that maybe the grillas and thiefs don't use and / or know much about.
Mr Enternational
06-29-23, 18:20
As for why the women do not (and I can just laugh and see Mr. E coming in and disagreeing), it is because they feel inadequate. The women are taught, trained, raised that if they were better women their BFs, husbands would not fool around on them.
The only thing I am disagreeing with is that you always insist that everybody wants or should want things how you like or want them. A good woman is what her man perceives one to be. It does not matter what you think one is, what I think one is, or what Dr. Ruth thinks one is. To one guy a good woman is one who makes steak every Wednesday. To another it is a woman that will let him watch her suck another guy's dick.
As far as women being taught, trained and raised that if they were better then their mates would not want to fuck other women, this is pure foolishness. Absolutely NOBODY is saying this to their kids.
Ravi Surya
06-30-23, 07:34
Can you guys recommend some chica friendly stay options in Laureles? I have stayed in Poblado in past but now want to stay once in Laureles.
Don't leave credit cards at bars. Got it. Much appreciated.
This is exactly why. I actually came to Gusto from La 70 where I had to pay cash for all the bottles we drank during the soccer game. I also know both bartenders, but somehow my shit got lost in the shuffle.
It's just the level of customer service. If the guy stood up, took my number, and said, "I'll review the video as soon as I can" . Well, I'd have still ended up canceling the card, but at least I wouldn't leave the place pissed off.
Oh, and just a quick note, I've never used it down here, but it appears BUMBLE is a good alternative to TINDER. My buddy was on it his whole trip and had a few girls from his matches. It seems to me like a less popular app than Tinder that maybe the grillas and thiefs don't use and / or know much about.I've had some good luck on Bumble in Medellin over the past few years. My experience is you don't find as many quickies, but there are some quality women on the site.
SlapShot10
07-01-23, 00:14
Can you guys recommend some chica friendly stay options in Laureles? I have stayed in Poblado in past but now want to stay once in Laureles.San Peter Apartments (Depending on how long you plan to stay. I would say it's better for shorter-term stays.).
Nil Admirari
07-01-23, 14:26
San Peter Apartments (Depending on how long you plan to stay. I would say it's better for shorter-term stays.).Agreed. San Peter girl-friendly (with strict screening of chicas); well-located and managed. That said, a number of board members report having moved out due to noise from neighboring discos. Ask for an apartment with the bedroom located to the rear of the building and with sound-insulated windows. These units command a much higher daily rent--but worth it.
Another good bet for girl-friendly accommodations in Laureles: Hotel Dorado on La 70 (Carrera 70). Compared with San Peter: no kitchens, but much closer to the Metro than the San Peter. And boasts a rooftop bar with scenic views.
DiscoverFL
07-01-23, 18:47
Can you guys recommend some chica friendly stay options in Laureles? I have stayed in Poblado in past but now want to stay once in Laureles.I use Airbnb and use the 'filters' option to select "Self Check-In". Usually those apartments are usually with a lock box and have their own entrance and no one cares who goes in or out. Has worked great for me so far.
This is classic damned if you do damned if you don't sex guide energy. If you had cash pickpocketed guys would be lining up to blame you for not using a credit card. You lost a credit card so now it's your fault for not using cash. All that aside, I stand by my opinion that Gustos sucks a big fat one.
Don't leave credit cards at bars. Got it. Much appreciated.
This is exactly why. I actually came to Gusto from La 70 where I had to pay cash for all the bottles we drank during the soccer game. I also know both bartenders, but somehow my shit got lost in the shuffle.
It's just the level of customer service. If the guy stood up, took my number, and said, "I'll review the video as soon as I can" . Well, I'd have still ended up canceling the card, but at least I wouldn't leave the place pissed off.
Oh, and just a quick note, I've never used it down here, but it appears BUMBLE is a good alternative to TINDER. My buddy was on it his whole trip and had a few girls from his matches. It seems to me like a less popular app than Tinder that maybe the grillas and thiefs don't use and / or know much about.
Can you guys recommend some chica friendly stay options in Laureles? I have stayed in Poblado in past but now want to stay once in Laureles.I have stayed at Hotel Dorado La 70 on numerous occasions.
I will be there on the 11th of July.
It is girl friendly, it has a Casino there.
Free breakfast, roof top bar.
I paid around 46 dollars per night.
You're right in the action area.
I have no problem sleeping.
There is 24 hours security at the door.
It's busy and big Hotel.
SureMan.
ElephantBeer
07-02-23, 10:31
Been in Poblado for the last week. I have chronic fatigue syndrome, so sometimes I can't do much. It's been relatively bad this week so have been sleeping 16 HR stretches.
I've also got my GF along which further complicates things.
However, walking up the main streets (uphill) in poblado. The streets are teeming with hookers. Some over the hill, but by and large mostly are okay, with a few spinners. If only I were 20 years younger!
Personally, I'm to the point where it's not worth walking up to a girl, trying to talk to her, arrange to go someplace, take the walk of shame, find a short time hotel, undress, shower, pay, and hope she's good in the bed. For 20 min of fun. And if a condom is involved. No fun at all. So, a night spent reading a book, or on the internet with some good sushi or pizza usually wins. (get old enough, and screw enough girls and it might happen to you to!
I would however, be interested in anyplace I can just walk into with no fuss and walk out 30 min later. Either a massage place for happy ending, or a sex shop that has girls in the back or an incall place like Brazil. Anything like that exist here?
Appreciate any responses. Here for another week trying to recover enough to get to Peru then Boliva, Rio and Argentina.
Also, an all nude strip club would be nice to find. To take the GF to. After 10 months traveling through E. Europe and avoiding the places due to scams, might be nice to see some quim again.
Been in Poblado for the last week. I have chronic fatigue syndrome, so sometimes I can't do much. It's been relatively bad this week so have been sleeping 16 HR stretches.
I've also got my GF along which further complicates things.
However, walking up the main streets (uphill) in poblado. The streets are teeming with hookers. Some over the hill, but by and large mostly are okay, with a few spinners. If only I were 20 years younger!
Personally, I'm to the point where it's not worth walking up to a girl, trying to talk to her, arrange to go someplace, take the walk of shame, find a short time hotel, undress, shower, pay, and hope she's good in the bed. For 20 min of fun. And if a condom is involved. No fun at all. So, a night spent reading a book, or on the internet with some good sushi or pizza usually wins. (get old enough, and screw enough girls and it might happen to you to!.In a nutshell, for a quick release, just get in cab and head to one of the many casa's in town, or perhaps Centro.
And pizza and sushi winning out over Pussy.
I guess if your that fatigued at the end of the day I could see this, but honestly this doesn't sound good.
How old are you anyways?
I have a friend here who is 76 and hits Centro at least every other day pulling girls easily over 50 years younger than him and blowing loads.
Hopefully you will get stamina back before you leave and have some good sessions.
I use Airbnb and use the 'filters' option to select "Self Check-In". Usually those apartments are usually with a lock box and have their own entrance and no one cares who goes in or out. Has worked great for me so far.There's some definite benefits to having a place you can easily enter and leave with whomever you want, however as your aware there's a lot more instances where guys are having problems with Chicas where there is no security in the building.
You have to be really cautious, meaning have your radar up at all times.
When you least expect it, something can happen.
Been in Poblado for the last week. I have chronic fatigue syndrome, so sometimes I can't do much. It's been relatively bad this week so have been sleeping 16 HR stretches.
I've also got my GF along which further complicates things.
However, walking up the main streets (uphill) in poblado. The streets are teeming with hookers. Some over the hill, but by and large mostly are okay, with a few spinners. If only I were 20 years younger!
Personally, I'm to the point where it's not worth walking up to a girl, trying to talk to her, arrange to go someplace, take the walk of shame, find a short time hotel, undress, shower, pay, and hope she's good in the bed. For 20 min of fun. And if a condom is involved. No fun at all. So, a night spent reading a book, or on the internet with some good sushi or pizza usually wins. (get old enough, and screw enough girls and it might happen to you to!
I would however, be interested in anyplace I can just walk into with no fuss and walk out 30 min later. Either a massage place for happy ending, or a sex shop that has girls in the back or an incall place like Brazil. Anything like that exist here?
Appreciate any responses. Here for another week trying to recover enough to get to Peru then Boliva, Rio and Argentina.
Also, an all nude strip club would be nice to find. To take the GF to. After 10 months traveling through E. Europe and avoiding the places due to scams, might be nice to see some quim again.Strip club, no problem. The nicest, by far, is Las Islas, a short taxi ride away. Expensive, but it's probably the best one to bring a girlfriend.
For Massage, go to Centro Comercial Rio Sur. There are 3 or 4 massage places there. The massage is good, and usually hot girls who'll strip down at least to panties. Prices for extras are high and it depends on the girl whether it's just a hand job or something more. Very nice places too.
Google says that Jade Palace Spa is open. It's on Calle 10 across the street from where you see the working girls. As far as I know it's still full service, although I have no idea of the quality of girls in the current lineup.
Take your girl to fase 2 and go alone to casas in Centro or Laureles. You noticed what is very hard to miss on la 10. It is a full on hooker stroll day and night.
Been in Poblado for the last week. I have chronic fatigue syndrome, so sometimes I can't do much. It's been relatively bad this week so have been sleeping 16 HR stretches.
I've also got my GF along which further complicates things.
However, walking up the main streets (uphill) in poblado. The streets are teeming with hookers. Some over the hill, but by and large mostly are okay, with a few spinners. If only I were 20 years younger!
Personally, I'm to the point where it's not worth walking up to a girl, trying to talk to her, arrange to go someplace, take the walk of shame, find a short time hotel, undress, shower, pay, and hope she's good in the bed. For 20 min of fun. And if a condom is involved. No fun at all. So, a night spent reading a book, or on the internet with some good sushi or pizza usually wins. (get old enough, and screw enough girls and it might happen to you to!
I would however, be interested in anyplace I can just walk into with no fuss and walk out 30 min later. Either a massage place for happy ending, or a sex shop that has girls in the back or an incall place like Brazil. Anything like that exist here?
Appreciate any responses. Here for another week trying to recover enough to get to Peru then Boliva, Rio and Argentina.
Also, an all nude strip club would be nice to find. To take the GF to. After 10 months traveling through E. Europe and avoiding the places due to scams, might be nice to see some quim again.
I went by Patrick's this evening and it was closed. Also, there is a "For Sale" sign in the corner of the front patio. I was planning on watching the Nascar race there, but I went to Hooter's instead. The good news is that Hooter's was able to get the feed for the race.
AfternoonSnack
07-03-23, 04:04
I would however, be interested in anyplace I can just walk into with no fuss and walk out 30 min later. Either a massage place for happy ending, or a sex shop that has girls in the back or an incall place like Brazil. Anything like that exist here?A condom will probably be involved, but in your situation I'd recommend Jade Palace Spa. The prices are clearly laid out before the lineup, and you can negotiate for upgrades in the room. It's up one flight of stairs on 38th right by the corner of 10 and 38th. No Spanish required.
MongerSocal
07-03-23, 04:22
I went by Patrick's this evening and it was closed. Also, there is a "For Sale" sign in the corner of the front patio. I was planning on watching the Nascar race there, but I went to Hooter's instead. The good news is that Hooter's was able to get the feed for the race.I was there on Thursday June 29. It was empty though. But I figured it was a Thursday.
MongerSocal
07-03-23, 04:24
I visited Medellin from June 27th to July 1st. First night there I hit the ground running. I visited Las Islas strip club which I was very disappointed. (Note: I live in LA so Tijuana strip clubs have spoiled me). First there is no ATM in the club so you have 2 options. Either bring a ton of cash for the ladies or use your credit card to open a line of credit with the club. In order to start a line of credit you must purchase $80 dollars worth of alcohol first. The woman in the club were gorgeous but all of them were unenthusiastic. The reason could be it was a Tuesday night but anyone that has been to Hong Kong Tijuana knows it is always a party no matter what time. So my friend and I left to Parque Lleras. OMG the woman were gorgeous. Each one better than the other. A sea of women to choose from either walking down the sidewalk or in the pedestrian walkway where the bars and restaurants are. I grabbed a chick each night I was in Medellin this is what I learned. None of the girls I picked had a designated motel therefore they wanted to come to my airbnb. Luckily I picked an airbnb about 3 miles south of Parque Lleras. So I was able to bring them to my room. No problem. The rates range from 300 K COL ($72) to 400 K ($96) a girl will tell you either 1 hour or up to 3 hours. Which sounds like a deal but it really depends on the girl. No matter the time the girl says your paid up to once your done unloading your manhood the girl wants to leave to earn more of course. If you want multiple sessions it costs extra. None wanted CIM. BBBJ costs extra. Some girls don't kiss. Medellin women are masters of makeup. 3 girls I picked looked gorgeous on the outside. But once in my room their bodies were less than steller. They were still good in thd sack so I didn't mind. 1 girl was from Bogota had a gorgeous face and gorgeous body. Second to the last night I went to the Barra Ejecutiva. Even though the venue is smaller the woman were more aimed to please. I found this super cute Venezuelan girl. She was hot had amazing body and amazing session. I even asked her to come to my room the following day. She charged 400 K for 2 hours but stayed longer than that plus multiple sessions. We still talk via whatsapp. I have heard there's another red-light district in Medellin with cheaper prices. But its in a bad neighborhood. Overall as a monger I love Medellin because the woman are gorgeous, sexy accent, and super chill. The prices are the same as Tijuana so if you're looking for a good deal because its further away from the States I don't you getting it. I promise I will return to Medellin. Anyone with questions or tips on their next vacay feel free to send me a message.
I went by Patrick's this evening and it was closed. Also, there is a "For Sale" sign in the corner of the front patio. I was planning on watching the Nascar race there, but I went to Hooter's instead. The good news is that Hooter's was able to get the feed for the race.It was for sale for the past year, and it is possible that a deal went through. Sad if that is the case.
I have the read the forum and am done planning my trip next month (first time in Colombia). I plan on doing mostly a mix of FB, SA and of course I will wander around and see what the casas and clubs are about.
I would like to know where, generally, the hottest women in Medellin hang out whether it is a physical space, an agency or a website. If price is not a problem where would you go to bang 10's (preferably GFE) ?
I have the read the forum and am done planning my trip next month (first time in Colombia). I plan on doing mostly a mix of FB, SA and of course I will wander around and see what the casas and clubs are about.
I would like to know where, generally, the hottest women in Medellin hang out whether it is a physical space, an agency or a website. If price is not a problem where would you go to bang 10's (preferably GFE) ?If price is no issue then I would say SA, great Selection and you can do a search and lots of options. Second I would go with facebook, only club I have been to is fase dos but that was a very good time.
There is no 1 place where the 10's congregate, you will have to comb through the options you mentioned. Really depends on your type. If you like operadas then strip club will be your best option, Isla or Face are the better ones. The SA and other online (other than FB) will be hit or miss with always the possibility of getting catfished. There is zero guarantee on GFE each girl will be either yes or a no. I have seen in the past 10's asking $300-800 US or even more. Sometimes you will find them for a bit less but not much. They know the game well. Good luck.
I have the read the forum and am done planning my trip next month (first time in Colombia). I plan on doing mostly a mix of FB, SA and of course I will wander around and see what the casas and clubs are about.
I would like to know where, generally, the hottest women in Medellin hang out whether it is a physical space, an agency or a website. If price is not a problem where would you go to bang 10's (preferably GFE) ?
What are the prices that the street girls hanging around Calle 10 are asking for these days? Not talking about the ones in Lleras itself.
SlapShot10
07-03-23, 20:26
It was for sale for the past year, and it is possible that a deal went through. Sad if that is the case.I heard a large chain sports bar / restaurant from Ecuador (or maybe Peru) is going to be leasing the space.
Proc & Ryno's is also closed, at the moment. It's down to Hooters & Ay Wey, in the park. Hooters is much cheaper and better looking girls; also, a full menu. I only end up the once every few months, but a light beer at Ay Wey is nearly 20 k pesos, comes in a can, isn't very cold, and is served by a 5 or 6.
You noticed what is very hard to miss on la 10. It is a full on hooker stroll day and night.With all the SW's working Calle 10 these days, what's missing are a few short time love hotels like in Centro.
Maybe a few of the small Hostels on or near Calle 10 could be converted.
However this probably wouldn't fly with the City, but who knows, maybe legally it's allowed as to what's the difference with the Hotels around the area that allow SW's in with ID, albeit you will be paying quite a bit more than 20 K for a short time room.
And if some short time love hotels were to open up, there would probably be quite an increase in SW's plying their trade on Calle 10.
Perhaps this is a business venture to be investigated. LOL.
JackRamher420
07-03-23, 21:49
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Hope everyone is doing well and getting ready to have a fun safe 4th. Long time monger first time poster. I am on the CRT boards but have not posted here on ISG got the site from someone over on CRT.
Have been to Mexico and San Jose CR a few times and loved it. Now I am venturing off to Medellin the land of Eternal Spring. I am so excited to finally head there after many months of contemplating.
I am looking for some advice on places to stay that are chica friendly and not wanting to charge and a leg for chica fee. I understand that's the game but lets be reasonable.
I have been looking at airbnb I have heard of energy living and saw one that allows you to smoke weed. Dope (no point intended) as well as La Mansion which I heard is a must if I travel there. I guess its like the Del rey in San Jose CR that its a must stay if traveling to either country.
I am so overwhelmed with what I am seeing on youtube. La 70, paruqe lleras, LA 33 etc etc etc.
Any advise apt, hotel, air bnb etc would prefer a balcony with either mountain or city views that you guys can share would be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone is out there those dates hope we can link grab some drinks and scope out the talent.
Thank you everyone for your time.
Newbie poster to ISG.
Take care.
I went by Patrick's this evening and it was closed. Also, there is a "For Sale" sign in the corner of the front patio. I was planning on watching the Nascar race there, but I went to Hooter's instead. The good news is that Hooter's was able to get the feed for the race.They are currently open Tues. Saturday. Closed on Sunday & Monday. I'm sure they will return to 7 days a week come USA football season as they get a lot of tourists & ex-pats coming in to watch the NFL games.
... I have heard there's another red-light district in Medellin with cheaper prices. But its in a bad neighborhood. ...I guess you Uber to the club. You are already in the bad area with cheaper price. Did you negotiate? The girls now have learned to take advantage of mongers and try to get a free swing for home run. There was a discussion about this club not that long ago when a member was quoted 250 mil for a session while other were paying 80 mil. I guess the price will stick when there are enough people paying.
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Hope everyone is doing well and getting ready to have a fun safe 4th. Long time monger first time poster. I am on the CRT boards but have not posted here on ISG got the site from someone over on CRT.
Have been to Mexico and San Jose CR a few times and loved it. Now I am venturing off to Medellin the land of Eternal Spring. I am so excited to finally head there after many months of contemplating.
I am looking for some advice on places to stay that are chica friendly and not wanting to charge and a leg for chica fee. I understand that's the game but lets be reasonable.
I have been looking at airbnb I have heard of energy living and saw one that allows you to smoke weed. Dope (no point intended) as well as La Mansion which I heard is a must if I travel there. I guess its like the Del rey in San Jose CR that its a must stay if traveling to either country.
I am so overwhelmed with what I am seeing on youtube. La 70, paruqe lleras, LA 33 etc etc etc.
Any advise apt, hotel, air bnb etc would prefer a balcony with either mountain or city views that you guys can share would be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone is out there those dates hope we can link grab some drinks and scope out the talent.
Thank you everyone for your time.
Newbie poster to ISG.
Take care.A couple of points. First, there is nothing in Colombia, and in Medellin, that is anything like the Del Rey used to be, or like the Sportsmens, or like Taormina, etc. In San Jose. The Mansion is very small in comparison, and they allow a few girls in the hotel part during the day, but everyone goes through security to get into the hotel, gate is locked, and there are no chicas parading through for your perusal as in the venues in San Jose. In the evening the chicas coming to the Mansion go to the bar next door, which is semi-open but with what is a significant door fee. Again small bar, and nothing like the Sportsmens or Taormina on a Friday night. So basically have no expectations of anything similar to Costa Rica in that regard. The business model of having an open bar, hotel, etc. Where chicas can come and solicit business, and then stay with guests in their rooms on site. Basically that does not exist for all practical purposes. Don't get me wrong, staying at the M can be a great first time experience, if the bar next door ever opens up again, but not the same.
And Airbnbs and guests. Many, if not most, want nothing to do with people like us who want to bring prostitutes into their homes or properties. Same in San Jose. I'm in an airbnb there now that said nothing on their Airbnb listing, but when I got here it is posted clearly on the wall that no unregistered guests allowed, no guests with any connection with prostitution, etc. Same idea in Medellin. So some that specifically allow guests are the only good option if that is what you want to do.
And be careful of anything you see on youtube. Most of it is BS and it is ruining the place for people like us because people that live there also can view these videos and the government and the city are extremely unhappy with how Medellin is being portrayed, and would like nothing better than to find some of these youtube video creators and eliminate them. Don't underestimate the anger over some of what has been posted on Youtube. One in particular where some young American guys were parading a chica through Parque Lleras like a wheelbarrow, all of them in full party mode. You have several million residents and people in power that found this disgusting, and an insult by arrogant assholes using treating their city and country like the people are dirty slaves or something like that.
Anyway. It is a great place to go. Stay under the radar. Enjoy what is available. Be sure your hosts whether a hotel or Airbnb are okay with you bringing in prostitutes. They have every right to not want that and no obligation under law to allow it.
I was recently in Medellin again for nine days. I was there mainly to undergo eye surgery but managed to have some fun before, during recovery, and after as well. Anyway I thought I'd share some thoughts and experiences.
Medical Tourism:
I found out that I have a degenerative eye condition called Keratoconus recently and decided to have it taken care of in Medellin at the Clinica Opthomologica San Diego. I've got a high deductible plan in the US with an HSA and I hate dealing with US insurance due to opaque pricing, scheduling, etc. So being able to book a trip using HSA funds and taking care of the issue in Colombia made a lot of sense for me. If you look up Colombia, they are quite well regarded for eye surgery globally. Bogota is supposed to be even better than Medellin. The Clinica Opthomologica is 7 stories of offices exclusively oriented towards eye treatment. My surgery was pretty involved including implanting intercorneal ring segments and undergoing a course of corneal crosslinking. It took over 2 hours to do both eyes. I'm well into recovery and am super happy with the results. I spent about $3000, which is less than 1/4 of what I would have spent in the US, where crosslinking alone runs $2000-4000 per eye and the intercorneal segment implantation runs $2000 plus per segment (I had 3 implanted). Scheduling was super easy and flexible too. The recovery sucked for a couple of days but went pretty fast after that. I'm happy to share my surgeon's details over PM if anyone is interested. I wouldn't recommend what I did to just anyone. I speak Spanish fluently so I was able to communicate well with my surgeon and support staff. I can see it being more difficult for someone who doesn't speak Spanish. I also have an amiga who let me stay at her house and took care of me for the worst of the recovery. It's not so hard to hire a nurse and comes out to 50-70 k a day as an alternative. Anyway, I personally think this was a great way to spend my tax-free HSA money with employer match and I avoided a lot of the annoying aspects of the US healthcare system in the process. It doesn't hurt that you can deduct travel expenses with HSAs.
Importance of making friends:
As I said a friend of mine I've known for over a year ended up taking me to my surgery and taking care of me. She's done a lot of favors for me before from helping me with shopping to booking dental appointments. I always bring her a small gift from the US and take her out to eat and get drinks. She's a platonic friend I don't have a sexual relationship with. Some of my nonplatonic amigas also offered to take care of me / take me to the operation, but I felt the greatest trust with her. Anyway, at least for the way I roll I think it really helps to make one or two local friends. You need to be a good judge of character, of course since there are a lot of scammer types. But its great to have someone you can ask for recommendations, that is willing to take you places, and that can help you out in cases like mine. I also enjoy my friend's company and have learned a lot from her about life in Colombia. It was interesting to stay in her place at San Javier, which was small but pretty nice. I didn't realize that a lot of people have pay-as-you-go electricity, for example. The fact that we are platonic friends keeps things more stable, which has always been an issue for my nonplatonic amigas.
Hotel Dorado 70:
I stayed here specifically so that I could use things like room service during my recovery and have free reign with visitors. I'm not a huge fan of Hotel Dorado for the price. I much prefer airbnbs where you can get a larger, nicer space for the same amount I spent on the hotel, though I used credit card points to fund most of my stay. I was on the 11th floor and didn't have huge issues sleeping but I could hear la 70 as a dull roar. Tranquility is important to me, so this may be less of an issue for some. I also found the breakfast to be pretty low quality and ended up going to spots like Rituales or Pergamino for half of my breakfasts. Room service was reasonably priced and the food is decent from the restaurant. The fridge in my room didn't work and they never repaired it despite me asking a couple of times. It's pretty easy to get girls in, though. You just register them at the front desk with ID. I even snuck a girl I knew previously who had forgot to bring her ID (I checked her in at a place I stayed earlier in the year and know her) during the day with absolutely no issue. The hotel is full of Colombians and Latin American tourists, so I did feel a bit scandalous a few times given how vocal some of my visitors were. The maid was cleaning the room across the hall from mine when Cristal visited me, and she never quite looked at me the same after that. Anyway, in the future I'll go back to staying in the buildings rented on Airbnb that I like.
Casas:
I went to Zandaly again on the first day I was in town as Cristal the PSE provider on photoprepagos wasn't available. I arrived there at 3 pm on a Saturday, which was the day of the game between Nacional and Millionarios and Zandalys was packed. I don't recommend going there necessarily at those super busy moments. I got to watch five prepagos haul a drunk guy out of the casa onto the stairs when I arrived. It also took forever for them to put on a half-assed lineup due to the pure chaos and packed space. I ended up going with Andrea, who I'd had sex with before in January. I'm pretty sure she didn't remember me, though I didn't try to jog her memory. She did a pretty good job with BBBJ and CIM for a bit extra but I got the feeling she was rushing things. I don't blame her wanting to circle back to make more money due to how many guys were in the casa. I think going between 11 and 1 pm is a much better move for that casa and for casa's in particular. But some people might enjoy that sort of chaos. I also went back to Ellas Erotic and booked with Angel. Angel is a light skinned Venezuelan. She was very sweet but our sexual styles didn't quite gel. She's more about slow sensual and sweet sex while I like things a little rougher and faster. I think she did her best, though so I wouldn't knock her. We had an interesting conversation about Venezuela and life in Medellin as well. So I wouldn't knock her. She's a salsa dancer and you can tell by the way she moves. I'm sure plenty of guys would have a great time with her.
Pro's and Semipros:
I always like to see Cristal from Photoprepagos once per trip. She came to Hotel Dorado and charged me the standard 200 k she charges for a PSE session with anal and 30 k for transport. She cums from anal and is up for most things, so I always enjoy seeing her. It's also fun to hear stories about different clients and experiences she's had. She got pissed because one of her Colombian clients that she pegs exclusively was bugging her nonstop during our session as he was supposed to see her an hour or so after. That's the fun of speaking Spanish and getting to know people a bit and she's got some stories and done some crazy sexual things. She is super loud, which may have caused some scandal at the hotel.
I also saw a couple of girls that were prepagos off facebook. I tend to go for the one's that are happy to show up and talk price when they show up or will even just ask me to give them whatever I want to give them. I saw one girl, we'll call her S that I'd seen last trip. She's 19 and has the classic long, black-haired paisa look with a nice, natural body. She hung out for four hours or so and had sex with her a couple times. Was very sweet and told me how much she liked to spend time with me and talk. She's really into asking questions about philosophy and science. Of course, she was waiting for the $$ at the end, though as well. Also saw a new girl, another S, who I took out to eat and spent a good 3 hours with as well. I was scrambling to find someone the day I saw her so she was probably a bit below my normal standards. But she was good company and the sex was decent. Anyway, I think my approach works pretty well for me to maximize positive experiences. I stay away from girls who quote "per hora", in dollars, or aren't willing to tell me much about themselves and tend to find women who are happy to hang out, friendly, and give very GFE service.
Finally, I saw my submissive semipro from earlier trips once. She gives a great deepthroat BBBJ, swallows, and is up for just about anything. She's always been ashamed to even mention a price to me so I usually just give her whatever I feel like. I do bring her chocolate from the US and have given her different gifts in the past and when we go out. She's getting more serious with a boyfriend so her availability was less than in the past, which was too bad. Its definitely an interesting relationship as she's told me a lot about her family and she goes out of her way to take care of me. She wanted to take me to my surgery and take care of me as well. You can also tell she's a true semi-pro / hasn't been with a load of gringos.
Nonpros / dating:
Finally, I did manage to go out with a couple nonpros. I was talking to 10 or so different girls for a couple of weeks before the trip and talked to a few more while I was in Medellin. I find it harder to line up dates than it was right after the pandemic. This may be due to more tourism and more negative experiences with other gringos. I had six girls make plans with me but a four of the six flaked (though the tend to come back and ask for another chance for whatever reason). I went on a couple dates with one woman in her 30's. I met her at Centro Comercial Arcadia where she works first and then she came to stay the night with me at the hotel the next day. She was decent enough looking to give her a shot but I ended up not liking how we had sex (no BJ on her part). It was also clear she was in a more precarious financial position, which usually means they'll be messaging asking for money in the future. So I cut her off.
The other girl I went out with was great. With some work, you can definitely find some serious girlfriend material types. She was a 21-year-old working in the beauty treatment industry (botox, fillers etc), that owned her own house and seemed like she had her head on straight. She also was a lot more intellectual and less superficial than your typical paisa girl. We spent all day together on a Saturday visiting Mirador El Cielo, going out to eat and going to 20 mission microbrewery that night. Anyway, she was all over me from near the beginning of the date and we were making out pretty heavily from about the midway point of things on. I didn't sleep with her after the date. I tend to try not to be too aggressive and I'm happy to go on a date without getting laid if there is good chemistry and we are having fun. This approach has paid dividends for me in the past. The funny thing is that we'd been Facebook friends for over a year and I hadn't messaged her before I saw one of her stories while in Medellin. I made plans to see her again but she got sick with a high fever and vomiting the day before going home. But I'm hopeful we will go out again when I come back for my post-surgery checkup and lens fitting in 3 months.
The microbrewery scene in Medellin is a lot of fun by the way. There is typically a cover band playing 80's and 90's rock in English and Spanish in addition to food and beers. I've been to both 20 Mission and tres Cordilleras at this point and taken a couple of different chicas. It still surprises me how much Colombians seem to love 80's and 90's rock in English. It's funny to see girls singing along to Nirvana, Van Halen, and Gun's and Roses. The girl I was with even taught me a new phrase "chirriar" which she said refers to hangouts where you drink beer with your friends and listen to rock music.
This has probably been covered before but what is the overall consensus of facebook vs seeking? I am staying at the mansion a month from now but I heard the bar is closed and the girls at the pool are limited so I decided to not take a chance and line things up for my arrival in August. The women I see on seeking look amazing but I haven't contacted yet to know if they are scams ore asking ridiculous American prices.
This has probably been covered before but what is the overall consensus of facebook vs seeking? I am staying at the mansion a month from now but I heard the bar is closed and the girls at the pool are limited so I decided to not take a chance and line things up for my arrival in August. The women I see on seeking look amazing but I haven't contacted yet to know if they are scams ore asking ridiculous American prices.All 3 have the same exact girls. The fb pros started bombarding them a couple years ago.
Very nice, I'm pleased the procedure went well. You are quite right about Zandaly and prime time. It's hectic at all the casas during big games and late afternoons. Especially on the 1st and 15th pay days. I keyed in on your report when you mentioned the Clinica Opthomologica because one of my top girls is a supervisor in the billing office there. I've not been treated there but during a couple of quick visits to pick her up for after work dinner (and dessert of course) it was easy to see it is a very serious institution. I would be comfortable under their care without hesitation.
I was recently in Medellin again for nine days. I was there mainly to undergo eye surgery but managed to have some fun before, during recovery, and after as well. Anyway I thought I'd share some thoughts and experiences.
Medical Tourism:
I found out that I have a degenerative eye condition called Keratoconus recently and decided to have it taken care of in Medellin at the Clinica Opthomologica San Diego. I've got a high deductible plan in the US with an HSA and I hate dealing with US insurance due to opaque pricing, scheduling, etc. So being able to book a trip using HSA funds and taking care of the issue in Colombia made a lot of sense for me. If you look up Colombia, they are quite well regarded for eye surgery globally. Bogota is supposed to be even better than Medellin. The Clinica Opthomologica is 7 stories of offices exclusively oriented towards eye treatment. My surgery was pretty involved including implanting intercorneal ring segments and undergoing a course of corneal crosslinking. It took over 2 hours to do both eyes. I'm well into recovery and am super happy with the results. I spent about $3000, which is less than 1/4 of what I would have spent in the US, where crosslinking alone runs $2000-4000 per eye and the intercorneal segment implantation runs $2000 plus per segment (I had 3 implanted). Scheduling was super easy and flexible too. The recovery sucked for a couple of days but went pretty fast after that. I'm happy to share my surgeon's details over PM if anyone is interested. I wouldn't recommend what I did to just anyone. I speak Spanish fluently so I was able to communicate well with my surgeon and support staff..
LvZooMan211
07-05-23, 02:01
Hi there. Anyone staying at the Mansion right now or recently that may know why the bar next door is closed? I asked and they told me it may be opened in 3 weeks but they don't have anymore information. TIA.
Short time options right on the strip would certainly increase the volume of action. I think it's unlikely because of the reasons you mentioned, and also because the space is so much more valuable as full service hotels for tourists. Rooms are going for US $150 and up and new hotels are going up all along the streets leading to la 10. I see the classic signs of a construction bubble. Once the demand cools off a bit and the construction of rooms catches up I won't be surprised to see more of these rooms in the US $50 to $US70 range.
With all the SW's working Calle 10 these days, what's missing are a few short time love hotels like in Centro.
Maybe a few of the small Hostels on or near Calle 10 could be converted.
However this probably wouldn't fly with the City, but who knows, maybe legally it's allowed as to what's the difference with the Hotels around the area that allow SW's in with ID, albeit you will be paying quite a bit more than 20 K for a short time room.
And if some short time love hotels were to open up, there would probably be quite an increase in SW's plying their trade on Calle 10.
Perhaps this is a business venture to be investigated. LOL.
All 3 have the same exact girls. The fb pros started bombarding them a couple years ago.It depends on if you want GFE or not. There are women all over place Lleras Park or Botero. You can pay 200 mil to 300 mil but it will be hard to find GFE for that on Seeking.
Would you recommend Medellin for someone who speaks 0 Spanish? Is it still possible to find independents for 100-150 k / h? Thanks in advance.
Didn't go inside the park but there are police under a pop up which it appears you have to go through to get in the prk. Saw girls inside so not sure how strict they are on the chicas. On 10th outside the parkIt was 1 am to 3 am and the quality was pretty low for my taste but they were still asking 300-400 k for a pop. We worked one down to 250 but I wasnt interested. Ill be back on the weekend for a hopefully better update.
A Airbnbs a Many, if not most, want nothing to do with people like us who want to bring prostitutes into their homes or properties. Same in San Jose. I'm in an airbnb there now that said nothing on their Airbnb listing, but when I got here it is posted clearly on the wall that no unregistered guests allowed, no guests with any connection with prostitution, etc. Same idea in Medellin. So some that specifically allow guests are the only good option if that is what you want to do.
Definitely a good idea to query your airbnb host about guest policies prior to booking. I haven't had an issue luckily but I'm usually up front and tell them I have several girlfriends and they will visit. Is that an issue? One host got all heated and said prostitution is not allowed. I got pretend offended that how dare he call my girlfriends prostitutes and he chilled out. Wound up he is an absentee manager and the security staff had no issue with me bringing up chicas. Sometimes just asking their guest policy is sufficient to guage the situation. Obviously being discreet about the whole process is paramount. The more she looks like a regular chica the better.
DiscoverFL
07-05-23, 18:06
Hi there. Anyone staying at the Mansion right now or recently that may know why the bar next door is closed? I asked and they told me it may be opened in 3 weeks but they don't have anymore information. TIA.Not sure if you are aware, but there is a separate forum here for the mansion (look for Casa Blanca). This was discussed there. But briefly, they allowed an important permit to expire, forcing its unplanned closure. Initially they thought they could get it renewed in a week; but like many government-related things in Colombia, things can take longer than desired. Now it seems they are expecting a two more-week delay before they get the new permit and can reopen the bar.
Didn't go inside the park but there are police under a pop up which it appears you have to go through to get in the prk. Saw girls inside so not sure how strict they are on the chicas. On 10th outside the parkIt was 1 am to 3 am and the quality was pretty low for my taste but they were still asking 300-400 k for a pop. We worked one down to 250 but I wasnt interested. Ill be back on the weekend for a hopefully better update.Pricing of 300 K to 400 K after 1 AM in the morning seems astronomical in a sense when the same quality girl can easily be had for a fifth or less in Centro.
Almost sounds unionized in a sense for a SW at 3 AM morning asking for so much.
Or perhaps I'm just having a hard time reconciling and processing the way things are now.
Before the Pandemic the activity was always in and around Parque Lleras, but now Calle 10 has become what I guess you could call the "Strip" in Zona Rosa of Poblado.
If this is the new norm for the Strip, it's not surprising.
And with the lack of short time Love Motels nearby, the SW's in a lot of instances will have to spend more time with a client getting to and from their Hotel or Airbnb, hence higher pricing.
However as many are aware, a lot of the same SW's also work Centro. And I can't blame them for strutting their wares on the Strip for a much bigger payday, and if these SW's are actually getting over 250 K for short time at 3 AM, what the hell are they asking for at 10 PM.
Anyways, what your reporting is not surprising and unfortunately if it's the new norm, it's just another transition Medellin is going thru with all the increased tourism and foreign remote workers.
Didn't go inside the park but there are police under a pop up which it appears you have to go through to get in the prk. Saw girls inside so not sure how strict they are on the chicas. On 10th outside the parkIt was 1 am to 3 am and the quality was pretty low for my taste but they were still asking 300-400 k for a pop. We worked one down to 250 but I wasnt interested. Ill be back on the weekend for a hopefully better update.When I was Calle 10 I noticed the police checking iid's for underage workers.
Would you recommend Medellin for someone who speaks 0 Spanish? Is it still possible to find independents for 100-150 k / h? Thanks in advance.No. I wouldn't recommend Medellin for someone who speaks zero Spanish. I especially wouldn't recommend it for someone expecting to find prices unchanged from 2018.
While those prices may still be found, they will almost certainly require lots of negotiation, in Spanish and will be at incall locations, casas, or informal casas and not independents.
Pascal1111
07-06-23, 00:58
This probably sounds stupid but man I thought the working girls would be more obvious than they are to me. Sorry if this is a hand holding question, but how exactly do I find one? Do I just walk up to random girls I see on their own? I only saw three in the whole park and they looked like they didn't want to talk to anyone (looking down at their phone, sitting on a corner of a bench). I don't want to end up harnessing a poor civilian who's just waiting for her friends to show up. The hottest, youngest looking girls tend to congregate together in groups which tells me they are not working girls. Am I wrong to assume this?
Do I actually have to go into one of the clubs? I don't drink and am traveling solo, so I'd just be sitting around basically and hoping a girl would come up to me, which isn't ideal as I'd like to pick out the girl, not the other way around.
Part of the issue might be that I'm a young Latino guy so girls might not recognize me as a gringo on the prowl. Every girl I've seen on my trip so far has come from websites (I'll report on them all in a later post) and they've all been great but I wanted the experience of picking one off the park at least once on my trip. Thanks for any advice.
Pascal1111
07-06-23, 03:48
Didn't go inside the park but there are police under a pop up which it appears you have to go through to get in the prk. Saw girls inside so not sure how strict they are on the chicas. On 10th outside the parkIt was 1 am to 3 am and the quality was pretty low for my taste but they were still asking 300-400 k for a pop. We worked one down to 250 but I wasnt interested. Ill be back on the weekend for a hopefully better update.I was just walking on Calle 10 and couldn't find anyone, where are you finding these girls exactly? Do you have to go inside one of the restaurants or clubs to find them? How do you tell apart civilian girls from working girls? Sorry if this is obvious, just kinda struggling out here.
Pricing of 300 K to 400 K after 1 AM in the morning seems astronomical in a sense when the same quality girl can easily be had for a fifth or less in Centro.Ok, I'll bite. To my Centro Rats out there, what's the going rate in el Centro nowadays?
Didn't go inside the park but there are police under a pop up which it appears you have to go through to get in the prk. Saw girls inside so not sure how strict they are on the chicas. On 10th outside the parkIt was 1 am to 3 am and the quality was pretty low for my taste but they were still asking 300-400 k for a pop. We worked one down to 250 but I wasnt interested. Ill be back on the weekend for a hopefully better update.There were news articles a couple of months ago about the problem with under age stuff in Parque Lleras and in Centro around Botero. Police and the social services for child welfare have been on the scene in Parque Lleras with police as they were setting up the road blocks coming in to the area. So I suspect that is the main reason, and also to make the area safer for people enjoying the bars and clubs still inside the Parque Lleras area. I don't think it was ever to stamp out legit prostitution as that is legal. Although the area does not have that zoning so perhaps there could be issues around that for the businesses that are part of that.
Ok, I'll bite. To my Centro Rats out there, what's the going rate in el Centro nowadays?40 mil más la pieza a parte (plus room fee).
Some girls try to say 50 k or 60 k if they think you look like a gringo but I instantly counter offer to 40 k why yo pago la pieza and if they say no then just go down the line there's 50 more that will say yes.
Of course if you want extras it can be a little more but even upto BBFS shouldn't set you back more than 70 k to 100 k depending on the girl.
And yes you should speak Spanish when negotiating.
I am staying in Laureles now and the neighborhood is fine. I will be moving to Poblado next week so I can report on a few things. But I'm not a casa, streetwalker or nightclub guy which is what most guys here are into. I have been perfectly happy with Facebook girls, 18-22. It has been working out in the past and it's working out on this trip. When I see a new girl sometimes it is disappointing but often it is not. I do my research and reach out to the girls before the trip and not during the trip so when I arrive in Medellin I already have a number of girls to see and my schedule is already filled up. I don't schedule the girls ahead of time except for the first day. I think one or two days notice is the best way because girls don't know what they're going to do more than a day in advance. If there is a party with friends, they rather do that.
Pricing of 300 K to 400 K after 1 AM in the morning seems astronomical in a sense when the same quality girl can easily be had for a fifth or less in Centro.
Almost sounds unionized in a sense for a SW at 3 AM morning asking for so much.
Or perhaps I'm just having a hard time reconciling and processing the way things are now.
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However as many are aware, a lot of the same SW's also work Centro. And I can't blame them for strutting their wares on the Strip for a much bigger payday, and if these SW's are actually getting over 250 K for short time at 3 AM, what the hell are they asking for at 10 PM.
Anyways, what your reporting is not surprising and unfortunately if it's the new norm, it's just another transition Medellin is going thru with all the increased tourism and foreign remote workers.I was here two years ago and it would be 11 pm pouring rain, not a gringo in sight and these chicks still asking 300 k. I didn't get it then either. But if they made some cash in the day maybe they just hold out for the big fish.
Pricing of 300 K to 400 K after 1 AM in the morning seems astronomical in a sense when the same quality girl can easily be had for a fifth or less in Centro.
Almost sounds unionized in a sense for a SW at 3 AM morning asking for so much.
Or perhaps I'm just having a hard time reconciling and processing the way things are now.
Before the Pandemic the activity was always in and around Parque Lleras, but now Calle 10 has become what I guess you could call the "Strip" in Zona Rosa of Poblado.
If this is the new norm for the Strip, it's not surprising.
And with the lack of short time Love Motels nearby, the SW's in a lot of instances will have to spend more time with a client getting to and from their Hotel or Airbnb, hence higher pricing.
However as many are aware, a lot of the same SW's also work Centro. And I can't blame them for strutting their wares on the Strip for a much bigger payday, and if these SW's are actually getting over 250 K for short time at 3 AM, what the hell are they asking for at 10 PM.
Anyways, what your reporting is not surprising and unfortunately if it's the new norm, it's just another transition Medellin is going thru with all the increased tourism and foreign remote workers.I would disagree with the statement that a lot of the streetwalkers in Poblado also work in El Centro. I am not sure of the supporting evidence to back up this assertion. But then again my statement is space just on looking at the girls in Poblado and looking at the girls in El Centro. It is definitely not a scientific analysis.
I think that the girls who can command a higher rates would work in Poblado and those who can't, work in El Centro.
DiscoverFL
07-06-23, 19:38
I was just walking on Calle 10 and couldn't find anyone, where are you finding these girls exactly? Do you have to go inside one of the restaurants or clubs to find them? How do you tell apart civilian girls from working girls? Sorry if this is obvious, just kinda struggling out here.Go stand here, in front of Droguera Alemana, any time after sundown: https://goo.gl/maps/5EBtduTKqnM2dU777.
Every girl surrounding you in a night dress is a pre-pago.
DiscoverFL
07-06-23, 19:46
This probably sounds stupid but man I thought the working girls would be more obvious than they are to me. Sorry if this is a hand holding question, but how exactly do I find one? Do I just walk up to random girls I see on their own? I only saw three in the whole park and they looked like they didn't want to talk to anyone (looking down at their phone, sitting on a corner of a bench). I don't want to end up harnessing a poor civilian who's just waiting for her friends to show up. The hottest, youngest looking girls tend to congregate together in groups which tells me they are not working girls. Am I wrong to assume this?
Do I actually have to go into one of the clubs? I don't drink and am traveling solo, so I'd just be sitting around basically and hoping a girl would come up to me, which isn't ideal as I'd like to pick out the girl, not the other way around.
Part of the issue might be that I'm a young Latino guy so girls might not recognize me as a gringo on the prowl. Every girl I've seen on my trip so far has come from websites (I'll report on them all in a later post) and they've all been great but I wanted the experience of picking one off the park at least once on my trip. Thanks for any advice.You can buy some soda or juice and walk around, if you see single girls hanging out. Standing or sitting, just walk close and upon eye contact say 'hola'. They will engage you and you can use google translate if necessary. If they are not interested, they will walk away or not respond. Simple as that. Terminology wise, they call it a 'cita' or date. Yes, you can say things like "I'm looking for a date tonight" etc. No need to mention sex unless getting into specifics. They like to pretend they are all classy and welcome someone who lets them feel special. Lots of 'my amor' and how beautiful and other random compliments go a long way with them. You can use terms like reward (recompensa) or gift (regalo) when talking about compensation. It's really kind of a easy calm dating game where they will try to make it easy for you. You can even break ice by inviting them to a cheap beer at any of those outdoor tables, keep the soda / juice for yourself.
I heard a large chain sports bar / restaurant from Ecuador (or maybe Peru) is going to be leasing the space.
Proc & Ryno's is also closed, at the moment. It's down to Hooters & Ay Wey, in the park. Hooters is much cheaper and better looking girls; also, a full menu. I only end up the once every few months, but a light beer at Ay Wey is nearly 20 k pesos, comes in a can, isn't very cold, and is served by a 5 or 6.Well shit. I was just there about a month ago. It was my usual watering hole with ex-pats and quiet escape to watch sports. Owner didn't say anything about closing, but he has been half in the bag most of the times I have been there lately. Great guy. Sorry to hear. Hope it is only temporary for them. I will be back in 3 weeks and report. BTW, lot of construction and closures going on in that area, so nothing really shocks me right now.
Happy hunting.
Snook.
I was here two years ago and it would be 11 pm pouring rain, not a gringo in sight and these chicks still asking 300 k. I didn't get it then either. But if they made some cash in the day maybe they just hold out for the big fish.To put things in perspective, 300 K is basically the minimum wage a worker makes in Colombia for a weeks work.
There's lots of SW's who work both Calle 10 and Centro where the going rate more or less for locals is 40 K.
I understand that the SW's working the Strip (Calle 10) are asking for lots of Pesos, as the customers pulling from there have never pulled from Centro, hence one might surmise that the asking / starting rate for foreigners / gringos on the Strip is 300 K, which makes sense, and maybe another poster who has pulled from the Strip can confirm this.
However, I can easily see a foreigner / gringo with Spanish speaking skills pulling SW's from the Strip for a lot less than the asking price, especially if there are no other customers out.
So if a SW who works both Centro and the Strip where offered 150 to 200 K when there were no other customers out, I'm sure there would be some who accept a lower offer as basically they would have to do four to five clients in Centro to make that kind of money.
But based on what your reporting, it makes sense that the SW's working the Strip are making bank or they wouldn't be out there as there are guys pulling them.
Just a sign of the times as before the Pandemic I don't recall seeing SW's working Calle 10.
Mongering venues come and go, and it's interesting watching the "evolution" of Calle 10 aka the "Strip".
40 mil ms la pieza a parte (plus room fee).
Some girls try to say 50 k or 60 k if they think you look like a gringo but I instantly counter offer to 40 k why yo pago la pieza and if they say no then just go down the line there's 50 more that will say yes.
Of course if you want extras it can be a little more but even upto BBFS shouldn't set you back more than 70 k to 100 k depending on the girl.
And yes you should speak Spanish when negotiating.Also what occurs is that there are a lot of locals who will just come up to a girl, and make an offer as to how much they will pay.
I have seen it happen on many occasions.
A local walks up to a girl, makes an offer, and it gets rejected and he walks away.
Several girls have told me this and felt really insulted, but it works at times.
Especially if a girl is totally broke.
I meant to post this when I got here on Tuesday night but I was exhausted. After ending a year + relationship with my Vennie from Bogota, I literally checked out of the place we met and said goodbye and had no place to go. She had returned a bunch of stuff I had stashed at her place so I was overloaded, particularly with my organic massage oils that give me tremendous relief to my joints and I just love having hotties rub me down with, so flying was going to be problematic because they tend to leak and that's disastrous. I was contemplating renting a car and driving myself and really glad I didn't do that. I took a cab to the terminal de transportes and hopped on the first bus to Medellin. I had no idea what I was getting myself into. I've been on buses before in Colombia but JEEZ. It took damn 12 hours and the chick next to me had doo doo breath and wouldn't stop fidgeting. The ride is 100 k so dirt cheap but you pay on the back end. What a ride. My taxi buddy picked me up and we dropped of my bag and headed over to LLeras where I left an earlier report. So anyway, the bus to Bogota is super cheap but I wouldn't recommend it unless you have no other choice or really want to save pesos.
I would disagree with the statement that a lot of the streetwalkers in Poblado also work in El Centro. I am not sure of the supporting evidence to back up this assertion. But then again my statement is space just on looking at the girls in Poblado and looking at the girls in El Centro. It is definitely not a scientific analysis.
I think that the girls who can command a higher rates would work in Poblado and those who can't, work in El Centro.A lot may not be precise, but if you wander around centro during the day and Poblado at night you will more than likely see some repeats. Again, "a lot" may be a stretch but there are some who work both spots.
Before I left Colombia just a few days ago I told my girl that I like her naked. It was first thing in the morning and she was on my lap at the time. She stripped naked on the spot. And she said: "What my King wants, my King gets. There are worse problems to have. And I am not even going to share the amount of money I spend on her because someone will jump up and beat their chest and call me a liar. But those of use who like relationships and partners know the real deal. And when the relationship ends, I will scream 'next' out of my front door and the girls will start lining up.
Contrary to popular belief this is not a forum about prostitution. Now I know many may not have any interest in having a girlfriend in Colombia. Individuals have told me that is like bring sand to the beach. But the one thing I don't do is worry about what a man is doing with his dick. And I don't care what anyone else thinks about what I am doing with mine.
At some point I will pay a prostitute to have sex with me in Medellin and report about it here. That will make some people happy. Others will not give a fuck. Some of my critics will never back off. Right now I am pleased to hear about all aspects of having sex with girls in Medellin as that is the purpose of the forum. And I also like to hear about how people go about day to day life in Medellin.
Pussy is Pussy
John Gault
07-07-23, 12:43
To put things in perspective, 300 K is basically the minimum wage a worker makes in Colombia for a weeks work.
There's lots of SW's who work both Calle 10 and Centro where the going rate more or less for locals is 40 K.
I understand that the SW's working the Strip (Calle 10) are asking for lots of Pesos, as the customers pulling from there have never pulled from Centro, hence one might surmise that the asking / starting rate for foreigners / gringos on the Strip is 300 K, which makes sense, and maybe another poster who has pulled from the Strip can confirm this.
However, I can easily see a foreigner / gringo with Spanish speaking skills pulling SW's from the Strip for a lot less than the asking price, especially if there are no other customers out.
So if a SW who works both Centro and the Strip where offered 150 to 200 K when there were no other customers out, I'm sure there would be some who accept a lower offer as basically they would have to do four to five clients in Centro to make that kind of money.
But based on what your reporting, it makes sense that the SW's working the Strip are making bank or they wouldn't be out there as there are guys pulling them.
Just a sign of the times as before the Pandemic I don't recall seeing SW's working Calle 10.
Mongering venues come and go, and it's interesting watching the "evolution" of Calle 10 aka the "Strip".A perfect example would the Mayorista strip. Ten years ago it was my go to area. I would stay at one of the hotels around the corner from the Casino and would have a picnic at night there. A few months ago I went there at night for old times sake and I only saw 5 girls and none were to my liking. In the past there would be 40 or 50 with some good ones there.
A lot may not be precise, but if you wander around centro during the day and Poblado at night you will more than likely see some repeats. Again, "a lot" may be a stretch but there are some who work both spots.I think that it is likely that some of girls work both spots. I think that is an accurate statement. I don't think it is a lot. From what I have seen, most of the girls working in El Centro are not attractive enough to get gringos to pay the higher rate in Poblado. But if they are attractive enough to get business in Poblado, enough for a month's wages, I find it difficult to believe that they want to sell themselves for 40 or 50 mil in El Centro. But I am no expert on this matter.
BlueChange
07-07-23, 14:27
Paulia.
57 324xxxx379.
180 K plus 50 K oral natural.
https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/taliana3127034185
Saw this ad, she is staying close by in Belmonte, the unofficial love hotel of poblado.
I wanted something tight and young and I figured she fit the bill.
I get there, fuck what a busted face. It was a 3/10 fuck. But I was already there and wanted to nut.
She has braces (something I am going to ask in the future if they have) to make it worse.
Tits are perky though but she kisses with little pecos.
Head was like 6/10 BUT she does spit on your cock a lot. I did my best to close my eyes to get thru it.
ONLY good thing is she has a nice looking pussy, so I made her give me head with her ass to me so I could look at it play with her pretty pussy.
Fucking was like 4/10. Totally just whatever and fake moans.
I nutted on her tits, then she gave a half ass massage.
Skip please.
BlueChange
07-07-23, 14:29
I meant to post this when I got here on Tuesday night but I was exhausted. After ending a year + relationship with my Vennie from Bogota, I literally checked out of the place we met and said goodbye and had no place to go. She had returned a bunch of stuff I had stashed at her place so I was overloaded, particularly with my organic massage oils that give me tremendous relief to my joints and I just love having hotties rub me down with, so flying was going to be problematic because they tend to leak and that's disastrous. I was contemplating renting a car and driving myself and really glad I didn't do that. I took a cab to the terminal de transportes and hopped on the first bus to Medellin. I had no idea what I was getting myself into. I've been on buses before in Colombia but JEEZ. It took damn 12 hours and the chick next to me had doo doo breath and wouldn't stop fidgeting. The ride is 100 k so dirt cheap but you pay on the back end. What a ride. My taxi buddy picked me up and we dropped of my bag and headed over to LLeras where I left an earlier report. So anyway, the bus to Bogota is super cheap but I wouldn't recommend it unless you have no other choice or really want to save pesos.Yeah NEVER take any long distance bus or any bus for that manner is Colombia. I made a mistake of going from Medellin To Peria to see the Termas and took a bus. HOLY FUCK, the loud music, everyone on their phones, screaming babies, terrible smells. NEVER NEVER AGAIN. Sorry you went thru that, my ride was only 5 hours I can't imagine that aweful bus ride for 12 hours with shitty roads.
Not reading about scope attacks by Tinder babes any more. Apparently the girls are behaving better now.
Minor quibble: you don't have to wait until night.
Go stand here, in front of Droguera Alemana, any time after sundown: https://goo.gl/maps/5EBtduTKqnM2dU777.
Every girl surrounding you in a night dress is a pre-pago.
I won't presume to evaluate a lot vs a little but I can 100% confirm that multiple girls work both spots. To take it a step further, a trans woman who works out of the short time hotel across from the Veracruz church front entrance and inside the wire told me she alternates nights between la 10 and the San Diego stroll. That's more news than any of us can probably use. It does however add a bit of perspective and color.
I think that it is likely that some of girls work both spots. I think that is an accurate statement. I don't think it is a lot. From what I have seen, most of the girls working in El Centro are not attractive enough to get gringos to pay the higher rate in Poblado. But if they are attractive enough to get business in Poblado, enough for a month's wages, I find it difficult to believe that they want to sell themselves for 40 or 50 mil in El Centro. But I am no expert on this matter.
A lot may not be precise, but if you wander around centro during the day and Poblado at night you will more than likely see some repeats. Again, "a lot" may be a stretch but there are some who work both spots.It's the same with the strip clubs. A few years ago, on 3 consecutive nights I went to Barra Ejecutiva, Fase 2 and Las Islas. In Fase 2 saw a girl who had been working Barra Ejecutiva the night before. The next night, in Las Islas saw a girl who had been in Fase 2.
It's not always about the money. Girls often work with friends or family. They might normally work El Centro, because that's where their friends are. If a friend wants to work Lleras, they'll bring along another to keep them company.
JackRamher420
07-08-23, 00:45
Any of you gents going to be in Medellin the weekend of August 17-21?
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Hope everyone is doing well and getting ready to have a fun safe 4th. Long time monger first time poster. I am on the CRT boards but have not posted here on ISG got the site from someone over on CRT.
Have been to Mexico and San Jose CR a few times and loved it. Now I am venturing off to Medellin the land of Eternal Spring. I am so excited to finally head there after many months of contemplating.
I am looking for some advice on places to stay that are chica friendly and not wanting to charge and a leg for chica fee. I understand that's the game but lets be reasonable.
I have been looking at airbnb I have heard of energy living and saw one that allows you to smoke weed. Dope (no point intended) as well as La Mansion which I heard is a must if I travel there. I guess its like the Del rey in San Jose CR that its a must stay if traveling to either country.
I am in Medellin again, airfares are cheap so I grabbed one for roughly 600 USD. I have had good luck with Tinder Chicas, been to Lutron and New Life. Lutron lineup had a least 3 tens (my opinion) and New Lifes lineup very subpar.
Lutron- as I said at least 3 10's, picked a blonde or fake blonde all natural. She was cool, homegirl has been all over Europe and Latin America, I guess with sponsor? Sex was decent and price was 400 K pesos in cash and 480 k with credit card, paid 420 K all in including a beer.
New Life-lineup was subpar but 100 K for an hour and 80 K for 45 minutes, my buddy wanted to go and he picked a girl so I decided to partake so I chose this girl who was actually a Venezuelan. She looked average but she showed me some dolled up picks and MANNNN she looks GOOD all made up. Sex was ok, she told me she's been in Medellin 6 years, moved here at 18 with a 1 year old she now has 2 kids. 86 K pesos total for 45 minutes.
Tinder -found a nice looking one, fake tits and small ass but she was TIGHT, great sex she wanted 400 K for a few hrs we agreed to 300 K. She came over, had few drinks at a bar, she was actually real cool, she's texted the next day wanted to another session with an actual massage -will prob repeat soon but I have other options.
Non pro-waitress -FINE as hell -working on it.
Went to comuna 13, several restaurants (OCI. MDE, Colosal again and Carmen) My Spanish is enough that I can hold a decent convo with the Chicas, Medellin is still a good place as long you avoid the tourist traps like Gustos but I kinda like to go to there to at least observe so I may go tonite. I also met this dude at a bar in Communa 13, he invited me to this club called GLOW VIP so I may check it out as well.
P.S. Families and American women are visiting Medellin, some are staying at my spot, I need to find another place with less Americans.
A perfect example would the Mayorista strip. Ten years ago it was my go to area. I would stay at one of the hotels around the corner from the Casino and would have a picnic at night there. A few months ago I went there at night for old times sake and I only saw 5 girls and none were to my liking. In the past there would be 40 or 50 with some good ones there.Yep, Mayorista used to be lot's of fun over a decade ago, and I don't know why it lost it's charm.
And way different than Centro being in kind of an Industrial area versus downtown.
There's a lot of transport in the area and almost seemed like a venue for truckers, kind of like a mongering destination for sailors at a port but for truckers.
Oh well. LOL.
Not reading about scope attacks by Tinder babes any more. Apparently the girls are behaving better now.Only a fraction of a fraction ever get reported. And fewer yet make the media in the US or other places. So who knows. I would certainly not conclude that the girls are behaving better. Thousands of druggings per year and most never make the news in any way, but hospital stats I saw a couple of years ago were staggering.
To put things in perspective, 300 K is basically the minimum wage a worker makes in Colombia for a weeks work.
There's lots of SW's who work both Calle 10 and Centro where the going rate more or less for locals is 40 K.
I understand that the SW's working the Strip (Calle 10) are asking for lots of Pesos, as the customers pulling from there have never pulled from Centro, hence one might surmise that the asking / starting rate for foreigners / gringos on the Strip is 300 K, which makes sense, and maybe another poster who has pulled from the Strip can confirm this.
However, I can easily see a foreigner / gringo with Spanish speaking skills pulling SW's from the Strip for a lot less than the asking price, especially if there are no other customers out.
So if a SW who works both Centro and the Strip where offered 150 to 200 K when there were no other customers out, I'm sure there would be some who accept a lower offer as basically they would have to do four to five clients in Centro to make that kind of money.
.I've been back in Medellin for about a week now.
The vast majority of the girls on Calle 10 aren't any better looking than the centro girls in general.
And there are definitely a good amount that work both.
There's definitely the exceptions of course.
I've seen some very good looking girls on Calle 10 and some are asking for 400 K and probably getting it.
That's the exception though.
A handful of girls last night asked me for 150 K right off the bat.
It may be because I approached them speaking good spanish or because in reality, most girls aren't getting chosen, or a combo of both.
A very good looking Paisa I saw last night quoted me 300 K, however, I was done for the day and got her WhatsApp.
Bottom line for me is, I enjoy Centro, I always find something good out there.
I know a gazillion of the girls out there.
I chit chat a lot. It's fun for me.
Up until about 830 pm or so, then I'm out of there. The police presence dies out and the riff raff gets going more.
Calle 10 / Parque Lleras is obviously more relaxed than El Centro at night, in that you're not going to get robbed or stabbed, etc. LOL.
Lots of gringos strolling around, I'm happy for them. Enjoying themselves.
I've met a few keepers out there as well.
Enjoy!
Went to la isla. Same crowd. Gringos, wealthy locals.
Same girls. Lots of plastic which I like.
I don't think there are ugly girls at la isla. All at least 5 most are 7 some 8.
Idk if someone already talked about this.
Price update: All the rooms cost 550 k COP. The entrance cover is 50 k. Idk who said it was 80 k.
Basically if you don't tip girls with 2 k bills and you go in and take one girl to the rooms that's 600 k. Not too far off from the 150-300 USD girls are asking at gustos.
Medellin is getting expensive and the COP is rising / the dollar is going down. Medellin definitely beats Cali imo. I'm not sure I'll stay / come back. Sure there are other places for cheap but rising prices are not it.
OH. I went to spa fantasias energy in laureles. 170 k for a massage girl 1 hour. People hype this place up but all the girls are hovering right below 5. The best you're going to get there is a 6. I went around 5 pm. I heard the boss lady talking to other dudes if you want a better room I heard it's like 200 k extra. Don't know. Picked a decent girl. She gave me a massage I told her no sex because she's not that attractive. We talked a bit it was awkward. Left. Probs won't go back. Loutron is where it's at?
DondeSea72
07-08-23, 11:17
Lutron- as I said at least 3 10's, picked a blonde or fake blonde all natural. She was cool, homegirl has been all over Europe and Latin America, I guess with sponsor? Sex was decent and price was 400 K pesos in cash and 480 k with credit card, paid 420 K all in including a beer.
Was the total spent there $1. 3 M pesos or $300 for a 10? Is BBBJ or kissing possible?
Thanks!!
Sometimes there is some debate about younger mongers versus the older mongers. I am an older monger and I just met with a younger monger who is much younger, more fit and better looking than me, and it's all good. I don't feel that I am in competition with younger mongers for young attractive women. There is enough for everyone. There is no need to make yourself feel better by putting down all the older mongers who are going out with women young enough to be their granddaughters. He is having a great time with his girls and I am having a great time with my girls. As to whether the girls would prefer younger mongers in shape, I don't know and I don't care because they are good to me in bed and want to make me happy and that is all that matters. They leave happy with money in their pocket and I am happy with their performance in bed. Win win situation as far as I am concerned.
I am in Laureles now and there are no street walkers here or nightclubs with freelancers. There are plenty of nightclubs and bars and attractive women walking around but as far as I can tell, they are not P4 P girls. But if you are young and you have game, it is possible when you may be able to pick them up. But that is not me.
I can't comment on the current debate about street walkers in El Centro versus street walkers in Poblado currently because I have not been to other places so far on this trip. But I do plan to move to Poblado soon and a visit to El Centro is possible so I might make a few comments about that in a future post.
The trip is not over so it is still possible that I could be drugged and robbed. Jajaja.
Yeah NEVER take any long distance bus or any bus for that manner is Colombia. I made a mistake of going from Medellin To Peria to see the Termas and took a bus. HOLY FUCK, the loud music, everyone on their phones, screaming babies, terrible smells. NEVER NEVER AGAIN. Sorry you went thru that, my ride was only 5 hours I can't imagine that aweful bus ride for 12 hours with shitty roads.The roads aren't bad. I've driven 2 different routes between Bogota and Medellin, and other than the places where landslides have damaged the road, the roads are in better condition than the US Interstate system.
However, the roads are full of mountain passes, sharp turns, steep hills and slow trucks. Trying to pass someone qualifies as an attempted suicide. All the twist and turns will beat you up.
The young heads are silly with there money and don't know mongering scene. There are rules to this shit! Any that's way a stop fuckin with the'jean. I'm out to better cities in Colombia!!
Sometimes there is some debate about younger mongers versus the older mongers. I am an older monger and I just met with a younger monger who is much younger, more fit and better looking than me, and it's all good. I don't feel that I am in competition with younger mongers for young attractive women. There is enough for everyone. There is no need to make yourself feel better by putting down all the older mongers who are going out with women young enough to be their granddaughters. He is having a great time with his girls and I am having a great time with my girls. As to whether the girls would prefer younger mongers in shape, I don't know and I don't care because they are good to me in bed and want to make me happy and that is all that matters. They leave happy with money in their pocket and I am happy with their performance in bed. Win win situation as far as I am concerned.
I am in Laureles now and there are no street walkers here or nightclubs with freelancers. There are plenty of nightclubs and bars and attractive women walking around but as far as I can tell, they are not P4 P girls. But if you are young and you have game, it is possible when you may be able to pick them up. But that is not me.
I can't comment on the current debate about street walkers in El Centro versus street walkers in Poblado currently because I have not been to other places so far on this trip. But I do plan to move to Poblado soon and a visit to El Centro is possible so I might make a few comments about that in a future post.
The trip is not over so it is still possible that I could be drugged and robbed. Jajaja.
400 k. Wow. Just wow. That is crazy!
I've been back in Medellin for about a week now.
The vast majority of the girls on Calle 10 aren't any better looking than the centro girls in general.
And there are definitely a good amount that work both.
There's definitely the exceptions of course.
I've seen some very good looking girls on Calle 10 and some are asking for 400 K and probably getting it.
That's the exception though.
A handful of girls last night asked me for 150 K right off the bat.
It may be because I approached them speaking good spanish or because in reality, most girls aren't getting chosen, or a combo of both.
A very good looking Paisa I saw last night quoted me 300 K, however, I was done for the day and got her WhatsApp.
Bottom line for me is, I enjoy Centro, I always find something good out there.
I know a gazillion of the girls out there.
I chit chat a lot. It's fun for me.
Up until about 830 pm or so, then I'm out of there. The police presence dies out and the riff raff gets going more.
Calle 10 / Parque Lleras is obviously more relaxed than El Centro at night, in that you're not going to get robbed or stabbed, etc. LOL.
Lots of gringos strolling around, I'm happy for them. Enjoying themselves.
I've met a few keepers out there as well.
Enjoy!
You got real lucky with the tinder date. Be careful bro!! They drugging like crazy in the'jean and other cities too.
I am in Medellin again, airfares are cheap so I grabbed one for roughly 600 USD. I have had good luck with Tinder Chicas, been to Lutron and New Life. Lutron lineup had a least 3 tens (my opinion) and New Lifes lineup very subpar.
Lutron- as I said at least 3 10's, picked a blonde or fake blonde all natural. She was cool, homegirl has been all over Europe and Latin America, I guess with sponsor? Sex was decent and price was 400 K pesos in cash and 480 k with credit card, paid 420 K all in including a beer.
New Life-lineup was subpar but 100 K for an hour and 80 K for 45 minutes, my buddy wanted to go and he picked a girl so I decided to partake so I chose this girl who was actually a Venezuelan. She looked average but she showed me some dolled up picks and MANNNN she looks GOOD all made up. Sex was ok, she told me she's been in Medellin 6 years, moved here at 18 with a 1 year old she now has 2 kids. 86 K pesos total for 45 minutes.
Tinder -found a nice looking one, fake tits and small ass but she was TIGHT, great sex she wanted 400 K for a few hrs we agreed to 300 K. She came over, had few drinks at a bar, she was actually real cool, she's texted the next day wanted to another session with an actual massage -will prob repeat soon but I have other options.
Non pro-waitress -FINE as hell -working on it.
Went to comuna 13, several restaurants (OCI. MDE, Colosal again and Carmen) My Spanish is enough that I can hold a decent convo with the Chicas, Medellin is still a good place as long you avoid the tourist traps like Gustos but I kinda like to go to there to at least observe so I may go tonite. I also met this dude at a bar in Communa 13, he invited me to this club called GLOW VIP so I may check it out as well.
P.S. Families and American women are visiting Medellin, some are staying at my spot, I need to find another place with less Americans.
Did why'all try the Mayorista area. That was great back in the day.
I think that it is likely that some of girls work both spots. I think that is an accurate statement. I don't think it is a lot. From what I have seen, most of the girls working in El Centro are not attractive enough to get gringos to pay the higher rate in Poblado. But if they are attractive enough to get business in Poblado, enough for a month's wages, I find it difficult to believe that they want to sell themselves for 40 or 50 mil in El Centro. But I am no expert on this matter.
400 k. Wow. Just wow. That is crazy!Is 400 K really that crazy? That is about $100. In America, $100 will get you 15 minutes or 30 minutes with the 6/7 girl everything covered. I know you guys don't like to compare prices to America what is also something you have to keep in mind. I'm not saying that I'm paying 400 k for a girl but It is not too much for a short time visitor from a Western country to pay if the girl is very attractive and going to perform services that he wants in an excellent manner. In Costa Rica, the Colombian girls are all asking $100 US for an hour. I'm not saying that asking for that amount is proper. I'm just saying it's not that crazy high for an American to be willing to pay. I know some of you guys will say that that sort of thinking is going to ruin Medellin But Medellin is very close to the east coast of America particularly Miami and you can't ignore relative pricing.
Spoken like a true Centro rat. But seriously, this is a good clear and fair summary of what is really going on.
I've been back in Medellin for about a week now.
The vast majority of the girls on Calle 10 aren't any better looking than the centro girls in general.
And there are definitely a good amount that work both.
There's definitely the exceptions of course.
I've seen some very good looking girls on Calle 10 and some are asking for 400 K and probably getting it.
That's the exception though.
A handful of girls last night asked me for 150 K right off the bat.
It may be because I approached them speaking good spanish or because in reality, most girls aren't getting chosen, or a combo of both.
BlueChange
07-08-23, 16:56
OH. I went to spa fantasias energy in laureles. 170 k for a massage girl 1 hour. People hype this place up but all the girls are hovering right below 5. The best you're going to get there is a 6. I went around 5 pm. I heard the boss lady talking to other dudes if you want a better room I heard it's like 200 k extra. Don't know. Picked a decent girl. She gave me a massage I told her no sex because she's not that attractive. We talked a bit it was awkward. Left. Probs won't go back. Loutron is where it's at?Yeah Its weird with Fantasia Energy. Its only up until this year that the decline has really sunk in. I been going there almost a decade. Actually that was the first casa I ever went to in Med and I remember getting this 9 named Alexandra. Wow She was such a firecracker I couldn't even contain myself!
That said I feel like I have to talk to management or something because quality control has gone down significantly. However I'm sure it is more difficult to recruit 8's and 9's because the competition with the internet is more fierce. I mean a girl can hop on IG, have some dude pay a trip to Europe and then she can go on SA and fund it fast that way. 10 years ago it was harder because the network wasn't that big and this place wasn't as popular.
I dunno I think ALL the gringo areas are being gentrified and particular the rents here have tripled in 2 years. I was paying $500 a month and its now almost $1400 a month for the same thing!
I'm with you, I would like to find a new place because there is no way its going back to the old ways, you got any suggestions?
You got real lucky with the tinder date. Be careful bro!! They drugging like crazy in the'jean and other cities too.Thank you bro for the warning. I always stay in a secure building and security will not allow a Chica to leave until they call and I tell them its ok for her to go.
Someone asked about Loutron pricing, I thought I clearly reported it. Ah well here we go….
Loutron 400K PESOS for one hour with a Chica using cash, with a credit card its 480K PESOS. There were about 10-12 girls there and at least three of them we absolute dimes.
PigSavinBoy
07-08-23, 17:06
I'm out to better cities in Colombia!!Better in what way?
Loutrons- price sounds about right and hasn't changed much since my first visit back in the day. Maybe 50 k more if I remember correctly. That was my first strip club ever in the'jean. Then my guy showed to the centro clubs and the rest is history.
Thank you bro for the warning. I always stay in a secure building and security will not allow a Chica to leave until they call and I tell them its ok for her to go.
Someone asked about Loutron pricing, I thought I clearly reported it. Ah well here we go.
Loutron 400K PESOS for one hour with a Chica using cash, with a credit card its 480K PESOS. There were about 10-12 girls there and at least three of them we absolute dimes.
Mr Enternational
07-08-23, 20:04
Is 400 K really that crazy? That is about $100. In America, $100 will get you 15 minutes or 30 minutes with the 6/7 girl everything covered. I know you guys don't like to compare prices to America what is also something you have to keep in mind. I'm just saying it's not that crazy high for an American to be willing to pay.Try to switch the same argument over to a taxi. Should you be willing to pay 150,000 ($36) for a taxi from the airport to Poblado? After all, if you were in New York the same ride would be $80. No $36 is not that crazy high for an American to pay, but taxis from the airport to Poblado cost 90,000 pesos ($21) in Colombia. You are saying that you should be willing to pay more simply because you have it, not because that is what the value is locally.
Sometimes there is some debate about younger mongers versus the older mongers. I am an older monger and I just met with a younger monger who is much younger, more fit and better looking than me, and it's all good......We bang the same girls as the young, fit, handsome mongers, ha ha.
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