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It's very common. I've always thought it's best to ask them how much for their time, or if they'd like a gift, to get an understanding of expectations. I had a couple situations years ago where things were not agreed to before and the girl expected outrageous amounts. Making a scene, one even called the cops (was the DR).
Some will say not to negotiate and see what you can get for free, but I don't agree with this tactic either. The truth is that you will get some free sex, but it's not because the girl is in love, it's more likely that she's just new to the game and afraid of the confrontation with a 250 lb dude. I've seen guys leave a live in girlfriend of a week high and dry (ie didn't pay a dime) and fly out. It just doesn't seem right to me.Very well said.
Has anyone attended flower parade in St Elena recently? Would you say it is worth visiting it for someone who does not speak Spanish? And what is best mode for going to the city to watch the parade. Take taxi or?
Not sure if return to Medellin will be smooth or too complicated?
Is that area safe during the crowded period?
And if I can't visit the parade, what are some good venues to see the flowers near LA 70 area?
Idk if I write a report a month ago but I went to gustos and la isla. 550 k for girl at la isla. All rooms are the same price now. That's almost 150 usd. Before like the end of 2022 it was 350 k for 30 minutes. That's under 100 usd.
Went to gustos. Surprisingly I saw a girl I met at lleras in the middle of 2022. She cost 250 k back then. Now I saw her at gustos and she was charging me in dollars. She said 200 usd. I'm like what? You're the same person your not even a 7. She's lije 150 usd because she knows me. I'm like bah you can leave my apartment bye. I asked how much she would charge me if I call her tomorrow. 150 usd. I'm like I'm not paying premium prices for truly not that great of a girl.
She told me that is what everyone us charging and what gringos are accepting. Whatever.
Also gusto has a lot more gurls than men like 7 to 1.
Anyways I bring this up to question pricing.
Are gusto 150 usd prices justified now that the best establishment in Medellin la isla is charging basically 150 usd? What do you guys think? I wouldn't pay more than 400 k cop for even the best girl.
You know what I think happened at la isla? The cop got to basically 5 k at one point so la isla wanted 100 usd and just converted. Now that the price is high and gringos are taking it they won't lower it. Also the priced out middle class Colombians so who knows if this was truly good for business.
Hax.
I always go to Patricks Pub but the rumor is it has changed hands. Hotters {sic } is close by if Patricks is not an option.Unless Patrick's has changed ownership in the last month, it's still the same owner. I went by there at the beginning of last month on a Sunday, and it was closed. The next Sunday, it was open and the owner was out front where he normally is. Now that football season is almost here, his business should pick up. It's been really slow every time I've been by there recently.
I think I'm successful finding normal girls for several reasons. I speak Spanish fluently and try to know as much as I can about the city and the culture in Medellin. I make an effort to target girls who have full-time jobs, live in decent neighborhoods, and don't have kids as well. I talk to girls extensively before I meet them (this tends to screen out most of the grillas and trafficked girls you mentioned). I also ask girls out for a coffee or lunch / dinner to get a better read on them vs. Right to my apartment. Have I met some semipros that way? Yes. Most semipros I meet end up being a great experience and I'm more than happy to give a regalito to them after sex. My point from before is that if you get a girl who tells you "the me lo que quieres" (give me what you want) or "the me un regalito" (give me a gift) when they are about to leave, just give them 200 or 250 k. I've never had someone get pissed at me when I've done that. At the same time, I've met and slept with many nonpros as well, including the girl I was just living with for three weeks.
Do I recommend other's do what I do? Not necessarily especially if you don't speak Spanish or have a poor sense of social awareness. But it's worked well for me so far. At the same time, I'm under no illusions that most nonpros are looking for something as well. This may be a visa, financial help down the line (I. E. Postpago), or someone to take them out and show them a good time. Those are things that come out with time. I'm more than happy to accommodate option number three. Anyway, not all Colombianas are prepagos and there is a healthy dating market out there as well of girls who are interested in getting to know and date foreigners. I think many other members as well as several of my friends who frequent Medellin can attest to the fact that there are lots of nonpro options out there for those who know how to look for them.
As is often the case with guys on this site, you seem to have some fantasies going on in your head. The typical Medellin girl that finds her way on a foreigner's Facebook friend list is working, selling sexual services, content, or both and most if not all that you felt like you got "for free" felt cheated after the fact but didn't have the courage to ask for her money. That's assuming you aren't blowing smoke which is common enough here.
P.S. Also a lot of these girls are part of organized businesses and have handlers.
It is just the way it is. Almost all of the girls I chat with on FB do not ask me for money but most expect payment if they have sex with you. So to avoid misunderstandings, I ask them how much they expect if we meet, and rarely is a girl offended. Instead, they usually give me a price or they ask how much I would give them. When I first visited Medellin, I meet a girl who did not ask me for money in the chats but after we had sex, she asked me for money and it was an awkward negotiation when services have already been rendered and accepted. It's like eating dinner thinking that it is free and then you get the bill and try to negotiate downward.
Now I prefer to know ahead of time and even with girls who have been chatting with me for months and have never mentioned money, when I ask that question, the response is almost always, how much you give me?Thanks for your reply, yeah I was also thinking like that and it's best to ask instead to avoid issues afterwards, in your experience how much would be a acceptable amount.
For a girl if you ask her to come for let's say 1 hour 3 hours half day / night?
Thanks in advance.
Voodoo Jones
08-04-23, 17:20
Anyways I bring this up to question pricing.
Are gusto 150 usd prices justified now that the best establishment in medellin la isla is charging basically 150 usd? What do you guys think? I wouldn't pay more than 400 k cop for even the best girl.
You know what I think happened at la isla? The cop got to basically 5 k at one point so la isla wanted 100 usd and just converted. Now that the price is high and gringos are taking it they won't lower it. Also the priced out middke class Colombians so who knows if this was truly good for business.I first visited Medellin last December and went to La Isla twice with a group of guys (a mix of ISG members and their friends). I remember the prices being around 350-400 K for 40 minutes. That was expected for a high-end club. I didn't partake because I was seeing women during the days for cheaper and longer. Then I saw a post last month that said it was now 550 K (like you said). Considering there's a 50 K cover charge and you have to buy drinks, you're looking at 650 K+ total for 40 minutes. No fucking way. You could find gorgeous women elsewhere for a fraction of that price. The idiots you see throwing around bills are the ones driving up prices and happily getting ripped off for a woman who probably finished fucking another guy 30 minutes before they showed up.
Gustos has always been a rip-off. My entire group got quoted $300 USD from different women. I just drank and hung out.
HoustonTxJake
08-04-23, 17:50
Planning my next trip, obviously I am thinking of the important things. Where are the best spots for watching football on Sundays? I assume Lleras would have plenty of options, but please drop some recommended spots.Medellin Sports bar just a few feet off of La 70 in Laurels in the San Peter Building should have the game.
I think I'm successful finding normal girls for several reasons. I speak Spanish fluently and try to know as much as I can about the city and the culture in Medellin. I make an effort to target girls who have full-time jobs, live in decent neighborhoods, and don't have kids as well. I talk to girls extensively before I meet them (this tends to screen out most of the grillas and trafficked girls you mentioned). I also ask girls out for a coffee or lunch / dinner to get a better read on them vs. Right to my apartment. Have I met some semipros that way? Yes. Most semipros I meet end up being a great experience and I'm more than happy to give a regalito to them after sex. My point from before is that if you get a girl who tells you "the me lo que quieres" (give me what you want) or "the me un regalito" (give me a gift) when they are about to leave, just give them 200 or 250 k. I've never had someone get pissed at me when I've done that. At the same time, I've met and slept with many nonpros as well, including the girl I was just living with for three weeks.
Do I recommend other's do what I do? Not necessarily especially if you don't speak Spanish or have a poor sense of social awareness. But it's worked well for me so far. At the same time, I'm under no illusions that most nonpros are looking for something as well. This may be a visa, financial help down the line (I. E. Postpago), or someone to take them out and show them a good time. Those are things that come out with time. I'm more than happy to accommodate option number three. Anyway, not all Colombianas are prepagos and there is a healthy dating market out there as well of girls who are interested in getting to know and date foreigners. I think many other members as well as several of my friends who frequent Medellin can attest to the fact that there are lots of nonpro options out there for those who know how to look for them.I will tell you this story about the first girl I met in Medellin on Facebook. We didn't discuss money and she went to my room and we had sex. Afterwards, I gave her 200 k and she said you have to give me more. So I gave her 50 k more and she said you have to give me more. I told her that she needed to leave, and boy, she was pissed off. So first day, first girl, that girl was pissed off when I gave her 250 k when we had no agreement about money and money was never discussed. After that incident, I decided to have an agreement prior to meeting a girl. After that, there has never been an issue as to money.
..... I think many other members as well as several of my friends who frequent Medellin can attest to the fact that there are lots of nonpro options out there for those who know how to look for them.Whether they're pros, semipros or nonpros, I let my money do the talking, meaning that nonpros are just playing a longer game than the semipros and same for the semipros than the pros.
I wouldn't disagree. But it takes two to tango and this is the same in the US or Europe. You don't need to marry that nonpro, send her money, or buy her expensive things unless you want to. How you manage her and how she reacts is a game between you and her.
Whether they're pros, semipros or nonpros, I let my money do the talking, meaning that nonpros are just playing a longer game than the semipros and same for the semipros than the pros.
NoobMonger305
08-04-23, 21:33
Hello mongers! I just found this forum after being in the usa one for years. Didn't know we had an international branch. Amazing LOL. I am going to medellin for my first time in early December for a whole week. I've been to cartagena and got INCREDIBLE action at the plaza del reloj (my type which is young like early 20's max since I am a young guy myself. I like petite, spinner. Short. Small. Cute. Not much into huge fake boobs).
I will be staying a few blocks west of parque lleras since I was reading in other places el poblado is the place to be.
My questions to you fellows are as follow.
Is mileroticos the only place to find legit ads? Are they even legit ads?
Are the sw like in cartagena? (as I described what I found there cheap with amazing service to boot).
To find what I like I know I have to search, but are there places / areas that would increase my odds?
Aside from the mongering questions of course if anyone has other travel tips would appreciate it. And I promise 100% to leave a review of any providers yall recommend that I end up seeing. TIA and stay safe.
Mr Enternational
08-04-23, 22:40
I wouldn't disagree. But it takes two to tango and this is the same in the US or Europe. You don't need to marry that nonpro, send her money, or buy her expensive things unless you want to. How you manage her and how she reacts is a game between you and her.Well the nonpros I know must be playing a hell of a long game, because I have known some for over 15 years and they have never asked me for shit.
This is the most realistic post in this thread so far becuase it is the most likely outcome besides the few exceptions that can happen. If you don't make an agreement because it spoils your mood or whatever other reason then you open yourself for "you owe me more" type discussions or worse, or you could have an amazing session for less money than you imagined or no money at all. Experienced guys here know which of these scernarios is more frequent and likely. It can be fun to spice up the transactional routine or it can be a pain in the ass. If you make a clear agreement per Moonshot's practice, you won't have to wonder how it will turn out after the deed is done. Information is power, now everyone is is equipped with the tools and free to make their choice.
I will tell you this story about the first girl I met in Medellin on Facebook. We didn't discuss money and she went to my room and we had sex. Afterwards, I gave her 200 k and she said you have to give me more. So I gave her 50 k more and she said you have to give me more. I told her that she needed to leave, and boy, she was pissed off. So first day, first girl, that girl was pissed off when I gave her 250 k when we had no agreement about money and money was never discussed. After that incident, I decided to have an agreement prior to meeting a girl. After that, there has never been an issue as to money.
Thanks for your reply, yeah I was also thinking like that and it's best to ask instead to avoid issues afterwards, in your experience how much would be a acceptable amount.
For a girl if you ask her to come for let's say 1 hour 3 hours half day / night?
Thanks in advance.There has been a lot of discussion on the so-called going rate for Facebook girls. My opinion is that there is not one going rate. Every girl is different and has her own opinion on how much she is worth. Age and appearance are big factors. There is only one way to find out. Ask her or if she says, how much will you offer, start your negotiations with a number that you are willing to give. That number depends on you. Now I will tell you what I do but this doesn't mean that it is the right number. I start out with 200 mil and would be willing to go up to 300 mil. Transportation is usually extra, about 50 mil roundtrip. I usually ask for 1. 5 to 2 hours for that price.
As for time, of course, half day or overnight is different from one to two hours. I am not interested in long time stays so I don't know the general number for longer stays.
If you want two shots over 2-3 hours, let her know, make your offer and then she will accept or counteroffer and the price will be somewhere in the middle.
It is probably best to start with less than 2 hours for the first meeting because you may not actually like her. Then after you meet her, you can negotiate for all day if that is what you want.
This is just my opinion based on my personal experiences and your experiences may differ.
Idk if I write a report a month ago but I went to gustos and la isla. 550 k for girl at la isla. All rooms are the same price now. Thats almost 150 usd. Before like the end of 2022 it was 350 k for 30 minutes. Thats under 100 usd.
Went to gustos. Surprisingly I saw a girl I met at lleras in the middle of 2022. She cost 250 k back then. Now I saw her at gustos and she was charging me in dollars. She said 200 usd. I'm like what? You're the same person your not even a 7. She's lije 150 usd because she knows me. I'm like bah you can leave my apartment bye. I asked how much she would charge me if I call her tomorrow. 150 usd. I'm like I'm not paying premium prices for truly not that great of a girl.
She told me that is what everyone us charging and what gringos are accepting. Whatever. Also gusto has a lot more gurls than men like 7 to 1.
Anyways I bring this up to question pricing....
Are gusto 150 usd prices justified now that the best establishment in medellin la isla is charging basically 150 usd? What do you guys think? I wouldn't pay more than 400 k cop for even the best girl.
You know what I think happened at la isla? The cop got to basically 5 k at one point so la isla wanted 100 usd and just converted. Now that the price is high and gringos are taking it they won't lower it. Also the priced out middke class colombians so who knows if this was truly good for business.
.I think it's just Colombian culture. I've seen this stubbornness in other countries, but it's much more pronounced here. For example, I know the real estate market here a bit having owned two condos in the past. You could not believe the number of local Paisas that will let an apartment sit vacant for YEARS rather than lower the rent (or price) by 10%. They have a set number that someone told them it was worth and they're sticking to it. Similar case with the girls. Most of us have business sense and would factor in opportunity cost (ie it's late at night and if I don't accept an offer I'm going home with $0 vs the $40 I spent on entry and drinks!) . Not so with the girls... some guy paid them $300 two months ago and they're holding out for another one-off idiot. I also think they don't want to go against the chica pricing union and lose face.
Silver Turtle
08-05-23, 21:20
To my fellow Centro rats, just out of curiosity what is the back story on the change of name / ownership of Premier Plaza to Botero Casa? The only difference I could see besides the sign is the absence of the gringos who used to hang out on the balcony overlooking ground zero.
On a related note, it seems the large Bluetooth speakers are allowed inside the wire again. So far it's karaoke style vallenato and cumbia "singers. " I wonder how far behind the raooers and indigenous child dance troupes can be.There is an American guy sitting and playing old music-1970's-80's rock music loud with a bluetooth speaker in the area. He is with a few other guys. They all are unattractive and strange.
Hello mongers! I just found this forum after being in the usa one for years. Didn't know we had an international branch. Amazing LOL. I am going to medellin for my first time in early December for a whole week. I've been to cartagena and got INCREDIBLE action at the plaza del reloj (my type which is young like early 20's max since I am a young guy myself. I like petite, spinner. Short. Small. Cute. Not much into huge fake boobs).
I will be staying a few blocks west of parque lleras since I was reading in other places el poblado is the place to be.
My questions to you fellows are as follow.
Is mileroticos the only place to find legit ads? Are they even legit ads?
Are the sw like in cartagena? (as I described what I found there cheap with amazing service to boot).
To find what I like I know I have to search, but are there places / areas that would increase my odds?
Aside from the mongering questions of course if anyone has other travel tips would appreciate it. And I promise 100% to leave a review of any providers yall recommend that I end up seeing. TIA and stay safe.I'd say to read the past few pages of this thread, but it gets sidetracked from time to time. So what's better for a noob is to read through the "Reports of Distinction" section on the Colombia main page. Good luck. I'm taking my second trip to Medellin in November, sorry our paths won't meet up.
I first visited Medellin last December and went to La Isla twice with a group of guys (a mix of ISG members and their friends). I remember the prices being around 350-400 K for 40 minutes. That was expected for a high-end club. I didn't partake because I was seeing women during the days for cheaper and longer. Then I saw a post last month that said it was now 550 K (like you said). Considering there's a 50 K cover charge and you have to buy drinks, you're looking at 650 K+ total for 40 minutes. No fucking way. You could find gorgeous women elsewhere for a fraction of that price. The idiots you see throwing around bills are the ones driving up prices and happily getting ripped off for a woman who probably finished fucking another guy 30 minutes before they showed up.
Gustos has always been a rip-off. My entire group got quoted $300 USD from different women. I just drank and hung out.Gustos is some weird place where all the girls are weather beaten and wear a ton of makeup, and then get together and charge 250 or 300 dollars. It would be like us mongers getting together and charging all swimsuit models 200 bucks for sex and not budging. LOL.
You are right about the real estate situation. I think it's because real estate taxes aren't a thing below the top tier of property values, so there isn't a big rush to rent or sell vacant properties in Latin America. In Colombia, I think the overriding factor is personal finance services are what they used to be in the late 80's in more developed countries. It's still a cash and reputation economy here. Check out the ATM lines near the 1st and 15th of every month to see Colombians do at ATMs what we do from our phones. They check their balances, they ponder which bills to pay, they deduct cash, and they pay some of their bills, all while a long line of other people are waiting to do the same thing. You quickly learn to stay away from ATMs around the 1st and 15th. Property owners prefer will wait as long as it takes until they get the price they think they should get, and it has to be backed up by what they consider to be a qualified co-signer if it's a rental. Some of us are old enough to remember having to answer questions like "where are you from" or "what line of work are you in" to rent or apply for mortgages. Nowdays of course it's just a matter of providing financial records and references for rentals. Like with everything else here, we have a big advantage in real estate transactions because most of us can come up with the cash we we need to.
I think it's just Colombian culture. I've seen this stubbornness in other countries, but it's much more pronounced here. For example, I know the real estate market here a bit having owned two condos in the past. You could not believe the number of local Paisas that will let an apartment sit vacant for YEARS rather than lower the rent (or price) by 10%. They have a set number that someone told them it was worth and they're sticking to it. Similar case with the girls. Most of us have business sense and would factor in opportunity cost (ie it's late at night and if I don't accept an offer I'm going home with $0 vs the $40 I spent on entry and drinks!) . Not so with the girls... some guy paid them $300 two months ago and they're holding out for another one-off idiot. I also think they don't want to go against the chica pricing union and lose face.
I wouldn't disagree. ....I guess another point is that this is a different experience that is not something that one can just buy directly.
Super Tramp
08-06-23, 00:26
I will tell you this story about the first girl I met in Medellin on Facebook. We didn't discuss money and she went to my room and we had sex. Afterwards, I gave her 200 k and she said you have to give me more. So I gave her 50 k more and she said you have to give me more. I told her that she needed to leave, and boy, she was pissed off. So first day, first girl, that girl was pissed off when I gave her 250 k when we had no agreement about money and money was never discussed. After that incident, I decided to have an agreement prior to meeting a girl. After that, there has never been an issue as to money.Moonshot I enjoy your contributions.
I agree with your approach.
I think some of his experiences are also relative to his Spanish and being almost half your age.
There are many youtube videos. Watch a couple and see what you think. It's all very colorful. The Reader's Digest description I can offer is a holiday parade with a large throng of specatators. This being Colombia, be prepared to surrender any hint of personal space. I attended it once, years ago. If you have a day to kill it's a nice alternative to the usual day trip to Guatape.
Has anyone attended flower parade in St Elena recently? Would you say it is worth visiting it for someone who does not speak Spanish? And what is best mode for going to the city to watch the parade. Take taxi or?
Not sure if return to Medellin will be smooth or too complicated?
Is that area safe during the crowded period?
And if I can't visit the parade, what are some good venues to see the flowers near LA 70 area?
ILoveColombia
08-06-23, 02:44
Hello mongers! I just found this forum after being in the usa one for years. Didn't know we had an international branch. Amazing LOL. I am going to medellin for my first time in early December for a whole week. I've been to cartagena and got INCREDIBLE action at the plaza del reloj (my type which is young like early 20's max since I am a young guy myself. I like petite, spinner. Short. Small. Cute. Not much into huge fake boobs).
I will be staying a few blocks west of parque lleras since I was reading in other places el poblado is the place to be.
My questions to you fellows are as follow.
Is mileroticos the only place to find legit ads? Are they even legit ads?
Are the sw like in cartagena? (as I described what I found there cheap with amazing service to boot).
To find what I like I know I have to search, but are there places / areas that would increase my odds?
Aside from the mongering questions of course if anyone has other travel tips would appreciate it. And I promise 100% to leave a review of any providers yall recommend that I end up seeing. TIA and stay safe.I think renting and living in Laureles or Estadio gives much better value, compared to Parque lleras and El Poblado, even if some say it's lower quality, it's really not. I would say prices are lower since the market is for colombian middle class. And with currently low exchange rate for the peso at 4000 to the dollar (,even if it was up almost to 5000, that could not last), it's a good time to go. At La 70, Avenida 70, you have La UPB, which have good Spanish courses, or at Estadio, close to Exito Colombia and the Giradot Estadio, there are Bodytech which resides also at "el cafetero" near Andreas Escobar Sports Park (who was killed 94 after he made a self-goal at the USA soccer WC) , if you go to Bodytech or another top-class gym there will be many more hot chics than you ever see at any club!
Use Mileroticos and look for Laureles, the girls there charge less than El Poblado girls, but it's the same thing!
Connect with local guys, in private they give you some very good advice, where to go, where few gringos ever go!
You need basic Spanish, that will do!
IMHO they expect local guys, they are not really prepared to overprice you with a gringo-premium like the girls at the top-class clubs, El Poblado or Parque Lleras.
If you meet some colombian guys they can recommend you even more economical, and more authentic places. In there company you will be safe, you will just use common sense and everything will be just fine! If they are descent people with descent professions, they are very unlikely to do you any harm.
1st world People spend to much money just to avoid just a little bit of normality, and that is just not worth the price.
Whether they're pros, semipros or nonpros, I let my money do the talking, meaning that nonpros are just playing a longer game than the semipros and same for the semipros than the pros.Yup. It's just the length of time. Like the wise osteoknot said back in the day "we all pay for it somehow at the end of the day".
As I've spent more time here I've come to learn that to get women you have to have money at the end of the day. Like. Getting a girl friend is just prostitution with extra steps. Like she has to like how you look, and she has to trust that you can provide and protect and you have to act all dominant, and at the end of the day you have to pay for her shit. You're still paying for all her shit and you have to do all that other stuff. But what's crazy is that with having a girlfriend she decides whether she'll have sex with you. But at that point if there's no sex I'm leaving.
I will say though, that finding a girlfriend that actually gives you sex, is feminine and is submissive is way easier here in Colombia than it is in the us. It's kinda crazy. I'm an engineer. Here I make a doctors salary basically I'm in the 1% and almost everyone here is low income class so girls are just drawn to me. My looks are average. But in the us. I'm in the top 10%. Girls won't even look at me. Not the 7+ in looks at least. Truly everything revolves around money. Girls that look good in the us know that they can get someone in the top 1% so they don't care about anything else.
Something else that makes finding a really hot girlfriend difficult is that now any 7+ can be scooped up and flown out because of social media. So even finding one is difficult but if you do find one, she probs won't talk to you because she knows she can get men in the top 1% world wide.
Finding girlfriends even in Medellin is getting more difficult by the day especially if she's hot.
So what's the course of action? Get rich and acquire status. That's solves every material problem. Want a hot girl? No problem you can pay 1 k 2 k an hour. Want a 7 GF? No problem you can pay 100 k a year for her lifestyle. If that's not the play, I guess you're going to la isla and gustos getting their WhatsApp and praying to god they accept 400 k or less for an hour or be happy with the 4-5 you found in centro.
Either way, inflation is real and money solves everything.
Hax.
Here I make a doctors salary basically I'm in the 1% and almost everyone here is low income class so girls are just drawn to me. How to they know your income before they meet you?
Mr Enternational
08-06-23, 05:34
How to they know your income before they meet you?And what would it matter unless she had control of it?
How to they know your income before they meet you?The stuff you wear, the stuff you post on social media. How many followers you got. There's a lot of ways to determine someone social class without knowing them.
How to they know your income before they meet you?Girl also know I'm a foreigner even tho I'm Hispanic. And my accent isn't Colombian.
Lead with a discussion of money and you create a prostitute when you could have a non pro experience. And everyone can indeed make their choice.
Anybody figure out that the girl is also taking the chance that she will not get what she wants if a money discussion about it does not occur. In my opinion, the girl is taking the risk. Because if the man holds frame after the sex occurs, gives what he wants then tells her to get the fuck out, no problems.
Information is power. Incomplete knowledge is useless. Action trumps everything.
RamDavidson84
08-06-23, 07:21
I guess another point is that this is a different experience that is not something that one can just buy directly.It can certainly buy happiness. Short time love- Oh yea!
Moonshot I enjoy your contributions.
I agree with your approach.
I think some of his experiences are also relative to his Spanish and being almost half your age.I would agree. You have to look in the mirror and have an understanding of the situation. I am older, late 50's, average looks. When a young attractive girl, 18-20, is chatting with me and interested in meeting with me, it is common sense to think that she is interested in trying to make money with me. Now, it is possible when I talk to older women late 20's, early 30's and up, that there might be a woman that is interested in regular dating but that would be the exception and not the rule. When you read these stories of older average looking men going out with young attractive women, and then it ends badly, you almost always think, well, wasn't it obvious that she was only interested in him because of the money and she had a local young boyfriend on the side? I think about the older American guy arrested for killing his much younger DJ "girlfriend". So for me, I just make it simple and ask about the money even when the girl is chatting for a while, saying how she really likes me and wants to meet, and maybe 5% of the time, the girl says she doesn't want any money. So far, I have not meet any of those girls because they are not as attractive as the other girls or when it is time to meet, they ghost me.
It is just the way I like to do things and I am not giving advice. Everyone can do what they want. I am not interested in a girlfriend or wife. I am just trying to enjoy my vacations in Medellin with young attractive women who are interested in entertaining me for a reasonable price that makes everyone happy.
I think how you are treated has a lot to do with your own confidence and attitude. I spent a couple days with my cousin, who is in his 50's before I left Medellin. He was spreading money around left and right to everyone from hotel reception to street people. I introduced him to a friend of mine who helps me out when I'm in town and he bought her a $700 phone on the first day. Now he's got enough money that all of this is next to meaningless for him. But at the same time, he complains about how he is always the sugar daddy and how he wants a girl to like him for him. My guess is he leads with money due to a lack of confidence on other fronts.
Personally, I'll happily take girls out and spend money on them as long as I'm doing stuff I would have wanted to do anyway or something she suggests that genuinely interests me. I give gifts but small ones that I try to make thoughtful, like a book I think she'll like, or the drink or candy I noticed she loves. I also genuinely enjoy exposing them to new foods and experiences. But once the suggestion games start I. E. "I'd really love that, or wouldn't that look good on me", or the long stories about financial issues start, I'm usually out of there. There are latinas that are happy to follow your lead and have modest needs / desires. The ones who really like you usually find ways to do things for you like cleaning and cooking for you, helping you groom, and making sure you get good deals and information. I've said it before but small financial gestures from Colombianas area a big deal like a girl who pays your metro, buys you a coffee, or shows up with a small gift for you. There are also women who spend heavily on men. I've experienced getting taken out, gifted cologne, and even a phone by a woman interested in me. That is harder to find in Colombia for the simple fact that even most working women with what you'd think are decent jobs are probably barely getting by financially.
And what would it matter unless she had control of it?
Yup. It's just the length of time. Like the wise osteoknot said back in the day "we all pay for it somehow at the end of the day".
As I've spent more time here I've come to learn that to get women you have to have money at the end of the day. Like. Getting a girl friend is just prostitution with extra steps. Like she has to like how you look, and she has to trust that you can provide and protect and you have to act all dominant, and at the end of the day you have to pay for her shit. You're still paying for all her shit and you have to do all that other stuff. But what's crazy is that with having a girlfriend she decides whether she'll have sex with you. But at that point if there's no sex I'm leaving.
I will say though, that finding a girlfriend that actually gives you sex, is feminine and is submissive is way easier here in Colombia than it is in the us. It's kinda crazy. I'm an engineer. Here I make a doctors salary basically I'm in the 1% and almost everyone here is low income class so girls are just drawn to me. My looks are average. But in the us. I'm in the top 10%. Girls won't even look at me. Not the 7+ in looks at least. Truly everything revolves around money. Girls that look good in the us know that they can get someone in the top 1% so they don't care about anything else.
Something else that makes finding a really hot girlfriend difficult is that now any 7+ can be scooped up and flown out because of social media. So even finding one is difficult but if you do find one, she probs won't talk to you because she knows she can get men in the top 1% world wide.
Finding girlfriends even in Medellin is getting more difficult by the day especially if she's hot.
So what's the course of action? Get rich and acquire status. That's solves every material problem. Want a hot girl? No problem you can pay 1 k 2 k an hour. Want a 7 GF? No problem you can pay 100 k a year for her lifestyle. If that's not the play, I guess you're going to la isla and gustos getting their WhatsApp and praying to god they accept 400 k or less for an hour or be happy with the 4-5 you found in centro.
Either way, inflation is real and money solves everything.
Hax.The only time you can be dead broke and attract good looking girls is when you're a teenager. I lost my virginity at 17 to a girl I worked with at the local grocery store. She was a cashier and I was a stock boy in the summer. She was stacked and no implants since it was still the 80's. Face 8 body 10. I was finally completing puberty. 5' 10" 155 pounds with a full head of hair. She flirted with me like I was brad Pitt. Now she would be on instagram saying she is 18 and being propositioned by every rich guy in America.
There has been a lot of discussion on the so-called going rate for Facebook girls. My opinion is that there is not one going rate. Every girl is different and has her own opinion on how much she is worth. Age and appearance are big factors. There is only one way to find out. Ask her or if she says, how much will you offer, start your negotiations with a number that you are willing to give. That number depends on you. Now I will tell you what I do but this doesn't mean that it is the right number. I start out with 200 mil and would be willing to go up to 300 mil. Transportation is usually extra, about 50 mil roundtrip. I usually ask for 1. 5 to 2 hours for that price.
As for time, of course, half day or overnight is different from one to two hours. I am not interested in long time stays so I don't know the general number for longer stays.
If you want two shots over 2-3 hours, let her know, make your offer and then she will accept or counteroffer and the price will be somewhere in the middle.
It is probably best to start with less than 2 hours for the first meeting because you may not actually like her. Then after you meet her, you can negotiate for all day if that is what you want.
This is just my opinion based on my personal experiences and your experiences may differ.I like your approach and I think its a very good one, one more thing I notice that it also depend upon desperation of girl, a girl with thousands of FB friends and old profiles will always charge more and show you attitude, in comparison to new girls with less friends on their list and newer profile.
Something else that makes finding a really hot girlfriend difficult is that now any 7+ can be scooped up and flown out because of social media. So even finding one is difficult but if you do find one, she probs won't talk to you because she knows she can get men in the top 1% world wide.
Finding girlfriends even in Medellin is getting more difficult by the day especially if she's hot.
You are spot one with my experience. This community was originally built for middle age and over, avg looking guys of avg income. Gives us the opportunity to find younger, good looking women that are affordable. With the onset of youtube, instagram, etc, guys that wouldn't usually even think of going abroad for women (young, good looking, wealthy), are now flooding Bogota and Medellin. Three years ago, during the pandemic, I flew to Bogota on a basically empty plane. Hooked up with a 9, a model out of work at the time. Saw her a few times since then, but now it's coming to an end. A guy her age, early twenties, very well off and good looking, from North America, texted her on IG. Since then they are going all over Europe, Colombia, first class tickets, best hotels, all the trimmings. She also hooks up his wealthy young buddies with other models.
As you say, the days of well priced 7's and over are now ending. This does not really affect the Centro type girls, the rising prices due to demand are not as significant there. It's probably time to start looking at other places if one wants 7's, or, pony up the cash.
Hello mongers! I just found this forum after being in the usa one for years. Didn't know we had an international branch. Amazing LOL. I am going to medellin for my first time in early December for a whole week. I've been to cartagena and got INCREDIBLE action at the plaza del reloj (my type which is young like early 20's max since I am a young guy myself. I like petite, spinner. Short. Small. Cute. Not much into huge fake boobs).
I will be staying a few blocks west of parque lleras since I was reading in other places el poblado is the place to be.
My questions to you fellows are as follow.
Is mileroticos the only place to find legit ads? Are they even legit ads?
Are the sw like in cartagena? (as I described what I found there cheap with amazing service to boot).
To find what I like I know I have to search, but are there places / areas that would increase my odds?
Aside from the mongering questions of course if anyone has other travel tips would appreciate it. And I promise 100% to leave a review of any providers yall recommend that I end up seeing. TIA and stay safe.You just found it, but you posted on it 4 years ago? You promise 100% to leave a review, but you left no review for your Cartagena trip? You're talking about girls at Plaza de Reloj, but your Cartagena post said you were going for a bachelor party?
Here are some tips:
1. Work on your memory. If you can't remember you've been on ISG before, how will you remember any of the advice given?
2. Don't make useless promises. About 99% of people who promise 100% to write a review, never write a review. However they often return years later with the same questions, making the same promises.
3. Use the search function. If you're interested in Mileroticos, search for posts mentioning Mileroticos.
4. Don't make decisions without first gathering sufficient information. A few blocks west of Parque Lleras may not be the best area to stay and Poblado may not be the place to be. Those are individual determinations and aren't things you should just accept at face value.
5. Don't expect anything about 1 place to be like another place. If you're looking for street action like you found in Cartagena, go to Cartagena.
6. Read the forum. Start by going back and reading until you can't stand to read anymore. Then keep reading. Ask yourself questions, then search for answers. If you point to a restaurant and ask if they serve hamburgers, and you just order a hamburger, you missed almost everything that's on the menu. At this point you have no idea what's on the menu in Medellin.
There are many youtube videos. Watch a couple and see what you think. It's all very colorful. The Reader's Digest description I can offer is a holiday parade with a large throng of specatators. This being Colombia, be prepared to surrender any hint of personal space. I attended it once, years ago. If you have a day to kill it's a nice alternative to the usual day trip to Guatape.The Classic Car parade is worth checking out if you're into cars. Part of the route, when I saw it, ran along Avenida las Vegas just south of the Aguacatela station. I also caught a bicycle parade near Estadio in Laureles.
Yup. It's just the length of time. Like the wise osteoknot said back in the day "we all pay for it somehow at the end of the day".
As I've spent more time here I've come to learn that to get women you have to have money at the end of the day......Some guys fool themselves thinking that they're getting pussy for free when they are carrying out the girls on dates, spending tons of time with them and buying them presents and shit when truth be told they're spending more on them than we are on pros when you compute the costs per session. My time is money, where the pros at.
They are regulars. I've seen them involved in bad interactions with girls, the girls' boyfriends, police, and robbers. I don't understand the speaker thing, it could be an attempt to fit in. There is already more than enough of that in the plaza.
There is an American guy sitting and playing old music-1970's-80's rock music loud with a bluetooth speaker in the area. He is with a few other guys. They all are unattractive and strange.
FACTS. But I don't begrudge the desire for fantasy life. I think it enhances the experience for some. When I was younger I used to fantasize more. I'm grateful that I've been lucky enough to be in a place where my real life satisfies and entertains me more than I even fantasized about in younger years. Anyway, back to the girls. I'm hoping that next week after the flower fest is done the Centro casa and street scenes will be back closer to normal. To be fair, I didn't notice much visitor impact until last Wednesday when the crowds really picked up. I saw only a couple of my regular acquaintances around the plaza before I later popped into a normally lower key casa that reminded me of New Life it was so busy. The manager told me they had a nice surge last week. Earlier in the week I got an whatsapp message from an Aventura girl telling me she moved to the long time place on Ayacucho because she had a falling out with the Aventura manager. I'm probably going to stop in next week. I haven't been there since before the tranvia was built.
Some guys fool themselves thinking that they're getting pussy for free when they are carrying out the girls on dates, spending tons of time with them and buying them presents and shit when truth be told they're spending more on them than we are on pros when you compute the costs per session. My time is money, where the pros at.
BenTiger07
08-06-23, 22:00
I haven't been in medellin for 6 months, but it seems alot has changed. Compared to just few months ago, La isla now charges about 60% more for a girl with raised prices & weakening dollar. That is a bold decision to do so suddenly.
How are prices at gusto, parque, etc now?
Medclubber
08-06-23, 22:25
Idk if I write a report a month ago but I went to gustos and la isla. 550 k for girl at la isla. All rooms are the same price now. Thats almost 150 usd. Before like the end of 2022 it was 350 k for 30 minutes. Thats under 100 usd.
Yeah, La isla has gotten really expensive. 550 k is indeed now the girl charge. Also, I've visited La Isla various times alone and they never made a point of me sitting somewhere without ordering a bottle. They did so yesterday, they told me no bottle = no seat, you have to stand in the back at the tables, so can't even have a girl riding on your lap.
Some guys fool themselves thinking that they're getting pussy for free when they are carrying out the girls on dates, spending tons of time with them and buying them presents and shit when truth be told they're spending more on them than we are on pros when you compute the costs per session. My time is money, where the pros at.Stop projecting No one is fooling themselves. If an individual is flying to another country to get "free pussy" is it really free? Yes the pussy may be free in that he does not have to pay for the girl to get on her knees or spread her legs or her ass checks. But indeed has administrative costs. And I don't see anyone posting the true cost of a session. In college me and my boys has a concept called CPO (Cost per orgasm). You add up ALL you cost (everything you spent to get into the pussy). And you divided it by how many nuts that you busted. That give you your CPO. I don't see anyone posting a CPO. It has to be self reported. Then assertion can be made like "they're spending more on them than we are on pros". If you are honest Mr. Turgid, that statement is a WAG. It is your opinion but stated as a fact.
My objective of life is not spend the least amount of money on everything I fucking buy. My objective is to enjoy my life. I can by fake Oakley Sunglass in El Centro for a fraction of the price of the real thing. Yet, I just bought the real thing. 2 pairs in fact. And I saved some money, because the second pair was 50% off. I bought the real thing out of the Oakley store. If someone else does not choose to spend their money in that way, I am fine with it. But I can tell you without a doubt the sex I get with a girl that actually likes me (read chemistry) is far superior to the sex from hard core professionals. I am way past being happy just to be getting pussy from a physically attractive girl.
All relationships are based in money! The question for me is: "Is the relationship solely for money". My time is not money. Money is unlimited. My time is a hard asset. Limited. 24 hours a day just like everyone else. And the clock is ticking. I am about experiences. Not money. Cause you cannot take that paper shit (fiat money) with you. And it has no intrinsic value in the first place.
NoobMonger305
08-07-23, 15:07
You just found it, but you posted on it 4 years ago? You promise 100% to leave a review, but you left no review for your Cartagena trip? You're talking about girls at Plaza de Reloj, but your Cartagena post said you were going for a bachelor party?
Here are some tips:
1. Work on your memory. If you can't remember you've been on ISG before, how will you remember any of the advice given?
2. Don't make useless promises. About 99% of people who promise 100% to write a review, never write a review. However they often return years later with the same questions, making the same promises.
3. Use the search function. If you're interested in Mileroticos, search for posts mentioning Mileroticos..Damn yeah you are right I posted something here 4 years ago and totally forgot. Sorry for my bad memory. I didn't review anyone because I forgot about his board completely and I didn't see anyone refer specific providers / locations then the trip came and went and then covid hit and everything turned upside down. Yeah we were there for a bachelor party but we stayed a few days. If you see me on the USA board you will see I have been pretty active for years and left lots of reviews. Again I just forgot about this board. Yes I have been reading. Of course. I understand if I want the same as Cartagena I should go to Cartagena. My questions pertain to Medellin because I wanted to go somewhere new and figured ID mention what I was looking for to get more accurate answers. There are over 60 k pages worth of material here. Most of which has very little to do with what I am looking for since my questions were not so broad. Figured I could ask and someone might point me in the right direction like the other guy that replied to me. Thanks for taking your time to respond though but you said a lot without really answering anything. I got a few months and ill keep reading. But its a lot to comb through and some assistance would be appreciated instead of needless remarks about my poor memory.
Yes, there are always some really cool old cars in that parade. One year a few of them showed up in front of the Museo de Antioquia.
The Classic Car parade is worth checking out if you're into cars. Part of the route, when I saw it, ran along Avenida las Vegas just south of the Aguacatela station. I also caught a bicycle parade near Estadio in Laureles.
RamDavidson84
08-07-23, 18:57
Stop projecting No one is fooling themselves. If an individual is flying to another country to get "free pussy" is it really free? Yes the pussy may be free in that he does not have to pay for the girl to get on her knees or spread her legs or her ass checks. But indeed has administrative costs. And I don't see anyone posting the true cost of a session. In college me and my boys has a concept called CPO (Cost per orgasm). You add up ALL you cost (everything you spent to get into the pussy). And you divided it by how many nuts that you busted. That give you your CPO. I don't see anyone posting a CPO. It has to be self reported. Then assertion can be made like "they're spending more on them than we are on pros". If you are honest Mr. Turgid, that statement is a WAG. It is your opinion but stated as a fact.
My objective of life is not spend the least amount of money on everything I fucking buy. My objective is to enjoy my life. I can by fake Oakley Sunglass in El Centro for a fraction of the price of the real thing. Yet, I just bought the real thing. 2 pairs in fact. And I saved some money, because the second pair was 50% off. I bought the real thing out of the Oakley store. If someone else does not choose to spend their money in that way, I am fine with it. But I can tell you without a doubt the sex I get with a girl that actually likes me (read chemistry) is far superior to the sex from hard core professionals. I am way past being happy just to be getting pussy from a physically attractive girl.
All relationships are based in money! The question for me is: "Is the relationship solely for money". My time is not money. Money is unlimited. My time is a hard asset. Limited. 24 hours a day just like everyone else. And the clock is ticking. I am about experiences. Not money. Cause you cannot take that paper shit (fiat money) with you. And it has no intrinsic value in the first place.Is that you Osteo? I thought you'd be dead by now, or jail.
Mr Enternational
08-07-23, 20:40
Why do folks always make a disingenuous argument when people say free? Free means no payment or 'gifts" to the chick. It does not mean you did not spend any money at all. Hell it is not free to live. You have to buy food, buy a car or pay for Uber or even the bus, unless you walk every damn where. When Denny's gives me a free meal on Veterans Day then it is not actually free because I had to put gas in my car to drive there to eat the meal? Be fucking serious. You know what people mean by free or no payment to the person.
There is a huge increase in number of American and European tourists in Medellin that speak English. This should correspond to some increased availability of English speaking ladies but I am having very hard time finding them. Have you come across any?
If anyone can share a number or two, I will really be thankful.
I was under the impression that buying the sim from big movistar shop means they will automatically register my sim and imei info. However to my dismay, my phone IMEIs are completely blocked in Colombia.
I checked some old posts but could not find a working website on which I can try to have it unblocked.
Can someone please point me to the place. Is there a website on which I can appeal or do.
I need to go to an actual claro or movistar office to get it unblocked?
If the latter is an option, please let me know any claro or movistar office near unicentro mall area in Laureles where I can get it unblocked.
Thank you for any guidance.
I was under the impression that buying the sim from big movistar shop means they will automatically register my sim and imei info. However to my dismay, my phone IMEIs are completely blocked in Colombia.
I checked some old posts but could not find a working website on which I can try to have it unblocked.
Can someone please point me to the place. Is there a website on which I can appeal or do.
I need to go to an actual claro or movistar office to get it unblocked?
If the latter is an option, please let me know any claro or movistar office near unicentro mall area in Laureles where I can get it unblocked.
Thank you for any guidance.Need more info about your phone, where did you get it, are you still paying for it.
If you got it from a major US carrier and you own the phone, you can call them and ask for an unlock code, assuming that the phone has never been reported and your IMEI is actually not listed in a blacklisted IMEI database.
If it's blacklisted, you will prob have to root the phone or get a third party to do it for you.
PS if your IMEI is blacklisted or phone is locked to your home carrier only, it is not just Colombia
I was under the impression that buying the sim from big movistar shop means they will automatically register my sim and imei info. However to my dismay, my phone IMEIs are completely blocked in Colombia.
I checked some old posts but could not find a working website on which I can try to have it unblocked.
Can someone please point me to the place. Is there a website on which I can appeal or do.
I need to go to an actual claro or movistar office to get it unblocked?
If the latter is an option, please let me know any claro or movistar office near unicentro mall area in Laureles where I can get it unblocked.
Thank you for any guidance.
I assume this is after you purchase a Colombia SIM and your phone was locked after you use it. For Claro, I was told you need to go to the one inside LOS Molinos. You will need to pay for it too. For Movistar, you probably can find out from a store. The SIM needs to be registered with your passport. My SIM was locked despite that I only had it for less than a week. That is my experience anyway.
Mr Enternational
08-08-23, 04:06
I assume this is after you purchase a Colombia SIM and your phone was locked after you use it. For Claro, I was told you need to go to the one inside LOS Molinos. You will need to pay for it too. For Movistar, you probably can find out from a store. The SIM needs to be registered with your passport.I bought a Claro SIM the other day in Leticia. It was 10,000 pesos. I asked the guy about registration and it being locked after a while and he told me it would not happen. Guess I will find out for sure next time.
I was under the impression that buying the sim from big movistar shop means they will automatically register my sim and imei info. However to my dismay, my phone IMEIs are completely blocked in Colombia.
I checked some old posts but could not find a working website on which I can try to have it unblocked.
Can someone please point me to the place. Is there a website on which I can appeal or do.
I need to go to an actual claro or movistar office to get it unblocked?
If the latter is an option, please let me know any claro or movistar office near unicentro mall area in Laureles where I can get it unblocked.
Thank you for any guidance.You need to register your IMEI with some telecommunications department (I forgot the name of it). It costs 20 mil. I did it twice, the first time online using the link provided by Movistar support, and the 2nd time at Movistar store. However it took a couple of weeks or so for my phone to start working. Interestingly enough, I was able to use DATA the entire time, but could not make calls or send text messages. After a few weeks, it finally got fully unlocked.
Why do folks always make a disingenuous argument when people say free?
Disingenuous: Not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. I am never disingenuous. In fact I am so candid and sincere when I make a response it is sometimes interpreted as being argumentative when I am only pointing out deficiencies in the ideas being proffered. My ideas often so powerful they are like an armor piercing slug hitting a vest designed to stop hand gun ammunition.
Free means no payment or 'gifts" to the chick.
Gift - a thing given willingly to someone without payment; a present. If you buy dinner for the girl it it a gift? Strict definition would define it as a gift. Free is that the girl sees you in your place or her place and sex occurs. According to some no money for taxi. No dinners. No day trips to the beach or sight seeing. No vacations. No movies. No nothing.
You see prostitution is defined as: the practice or occupation of engaging in sexual activity with someone for payment. Looks very straight forward. But I have pointed out several examples in serval posts that shows that is no always a bright line transaction. Of course it can be. But sometime it is not. Marriage is the most expensive sex you will ever get for "free". LOL!
I prefer to use that actual definitions of the Kings English instead of the interpretations of others. I am NOT going to let anyone tell me that if I give my girlfriend money to get her nails and hair done and she asked me what color I want her nails or when we are together we goto the salon together and get our manicure pedicure that she is a prostitute. Yet that is the opinion of some individuals posting here. Because I like to see her with pretty fingernails when I look down and see her hands wrapped around my dick as she lowers her mouth on it. Maybe when she is around me she wraps it about the dick of some other man. But I can't control that. You know how many wives I have fucked, listened to their conversations while they are laying next to me in bed.
Words have meaning. And in order for others to understand the meaning of your posts you have to use those words properly. But I don't understand why money it is such an issue for some people anyone. Nothing is in life is free. This is a site that is for sharing information on having sex with girls. There are many individuals getting sex from girls in many different ways. I like to hear their stories. You need internet service to make contact with girls in some cases. I suppose that is why SIM cards are being discussed in the Medellin Reports thread. I get it. LOL!
LoveItHere
08-08-23, 06:01
So many tourists taking so many pictures of the fat statues. Listening to the tour guides speaking English versus Spanish it seems as if 60% are Colombians and 40% are foreigners. Either way the hotels are a lot more full. Many police are keeping the beggars, vendors, young punks, and women for rent wearing revealing clothes out of the fat statues areas.
No pregnant girls at this time.
Sorry to say but quality is down from 2 years ago.
Midget = proportioned. Dwarf = not proportioned.
There is a dwarf available for anyone who needs to check that off their bucket list of somebody they just have to F. Walk down the alleyway on the side of the Vero Cruz church to Carrera 53 (aka bar street). Cross the street and she is in one of the two hotel entrances across from D1. Sorry guys but she is fugly.
A group of guys own Hotel Botero Real on the side of Vera Cruz church. I met them when they bought the place and kicked the overnighters out for short time only. They also own Hotel Brisas Del Jardin which is the one when you walk down the alleyway on the side of the church to bar street. There is a casino on the left and the very next entrance is the hotel. I know because (once or twice) I saw one of the owners there talking to the employee in the office area and said Hi on my way to screwing a girl. If you walk from the Botero Parque under the metro heading toward the Prado metro station. They also own the one on the left side with the really big balcony (forgot the name). I walked with one of the owners to that hotel. He had business to do there and showed me two rooms. OMG! Nasty! Cockroaches everywhere.
There are three Mandala hotels. I am only interested in the Botero street girl area. That one is Hotel Mandala Botero. I stayed 3 nights. To bring in a girl for a few hours is 35,000. Here is where I get a little mad. I do not have to stay there and I can still get a room for 3 hours for 35,000. If I stay there I should get a discounted price right? This is by far the closest cleanest hotel for short time. The shower can fit 4 people. I was surprised this 3 star hotel has F-ing rooms available. Sadly, no A / see.
Hotel Casa Botero (prior Premier Plaza) is owned by Hotel Mandala Botero. They cleaned it up a little but no major work done. 60,000 per night now. I know because Mandala Botero has Hotel Casa Botero cards on their counter and I asked just to be sure. I also stayed at Casa Botero for a few nights.
Surfer you always mention Hotel Deseos but never the sister hotel. You need to learn the street better. The sister hotel is Hotel Soberano. The yellow hotel just around the corner from the airport bus drop off behind Nutribara. I stayed at Soberano my last trip for 2 weeks 2 years ago. They had remodeled everything. New flooring, paint, toilet, sink, shower. The best rooms are 310,410 maybe some others. The elevator does not work and looks as if it never will. I learned they are sister hotels when I had a problem with the cleaning lady they recommended Deseos. Also, I saw employees working both hotels.
Hotel Nutribara on Agoda.com they show pictures of a swimming pool, sauna, and steam room. None of the three exist and have not for many many years. I was going to try them for a few days but lying to customers like that pissed me off so the hell with them.
Need more info about your phone, where did you get it, are you still paying for it.
If you got it from a major US carrier and you own the phone, you can call them and ask for an unlock code, assuming that the phone has never been reported and your IMEI is actually not listed in a blacklisted IMEI database.
If it's blacklisted, you will prob have to root the phone or get a third party to do it for you.
PS if your IMEI is blacklisted or phone is locked to your home carrier only, it is not just ColombiaNot what is happening with Colombia. These are being blocked by the gov't of Colombia.
Nothing to do with your phone or carrier in the US. Colombia blocks phones that have not been registered with them (them being the government of Colombia). Buying a SIM does not necessarily register your phone. I have learned from experience. So when you bring a phone into Colombia that is not on their central registry system you have about a month to get it registered with their system, no matter where you got your Colombian SIM from. The major carriers, if you get the SIM from them, will or can do this properly at the outset. But buying a SIM from a store that sells and installs them may not. It will require your passport and a little process at the same time as you get your SIM. Best done directly with the company stores for Claro or Movistar or whoever, not a little store that just sells and installs the SIM. The country will have your phones IMEI registered when you are done. Regardless of what Colombian phone company. Otherwise you will be blocked in Colombia, no matter what company SIM you get. You can get this unblocked, but it will take a day and only by the carrier of your original SIM that you started with that got you blocked (generally the previous trip).
I was under the impression that buying the sim from big movistar shop means they will automatically register my sim and imei info. However to my dismay, my phone IMEIs are completely blocked in Colombia.
I checked some old posts but could not find a working website on which I can try to have it unblocked.
Can someone please point me to the place. Is there a website on which I can appeal or do.
I need to go to an actual claro or movistar office to get it unblocked?
If the latter is an option, please let me know any claro or movistar office near unicentro mall area in Laureles where I can get it unblocked.
Thank you for any guidance.Had the same thing and had to go to the actual company store for the company that my original Colombia SIM was from. Took me a while to figure out as it was a year or two earlier on a previous trip. Find the nearest company store for the SIM you originally had, and the phone number you had. Google location. In my case it was in San Diego mall.
I was told only the original company you got the SIM from (that resulted in you getting blocked) can have it unblocked.
There is a huge increase in number of American and European tourists in Medellin that speak English. This should correspond to some increased availability of English speaking ladies but I am having very hard time finding them. Have you come across any?
If anyone can share a number or two, I will really be thankful.There are a not English speaking ladies but you have to search and might find some. Some will speak little bit but not enough to hold conversation. I also always go for English speaking girls and found few. Look for girls that go to college / universities. But depends on your need love / sex language will do the trick for you.
Send me a PM and will share you one contact.
I agree the Plaza Botero / Parque Berrio quality was better a couple of years ago. Now that some of the girls ask for 40,000 the casas are worth another look. I think the barrier (especially the part that cut off the back of the church from the plaza) is one of the reasons. The other two reasons are economic improvement in Venezuela that brought girls back there and slowed down the flow of girls coming here (LATAM is about to resume operations in Venezuela) and groups of girls who move down to Poblado to work. My sense is the barrier had the biggest impact.
I expect the barrer will be breached or gone by Christmas once Mayor Quintero is voted out. Without getting too deeply into local politics, the facts are Quintero is way behind in the polls, he was recalled once during his term, he faced accusations of sexual harassment and rape, and he has not been able to answer questions about the source of his increase in real estate holdings and cash since he was elected. He had been allied with President Gustavo Petro during the presidential campaign that Petro's son was recently locked up for allegdly helping fund with laundered narco funds.
So many tourists taking so many pictures of the fat statues. Listening to the tour guides speaking English versus Spanish it seems as if 60% are Colombians and 40% are foreigners. Either way the hotels are a lot more full. Many police are keeping the beggars, vendors, young punks, and women for rent wearing revealing clothes out of the fat statues areas.
No pregnant girls at this time.
Sorry to say but quality is down from 2 years ago.
Midget = proportioned. Dwarf = not proportioned.
There is a dwarf available for anyone who needs to check that off their bucket list of somebody they just have to F. Walk down the alleyway on the side of the Vero Cruz church to Carrera 53 (aka bar street). Cross the street and she is in one of the two hotel entrances across from D1. Sorry guys but she is fugly.
A group of guys own Hotel Botero Real on the side of Vera Cruz church. I met them when they bought the place and kicked the overnighters out for short time only. They also own Hotel Brisas Del Jardin which is the one when you walk down the alleyway on the side of the church to bar street. There is a casino on the left and the very next entrance is the hotel. I know because (once or twice) I saw one of the owners there talking to the employee in the office area and said Hi on my way to screwing a girl. If you walk from the Botero Parque under the metro heading toward the Prado metro station. They also own the one on the left side with the really big balcony (forgot the name). I walked with one of the owners to that hotel. He had business to do there and showed me two rooms. OMG! Nasty! Cockroaches everywhere.
There are three Mandala hotels. I am only interested in the Botero street girl area. That one is Hotel Mandala Botero. I stayed 3 nights. To bring in a girl for a few hours is 35,000. Here is where I get a little mad. I do not have to stay there and I can still get a room for 3 hours for 35,000. If I stay there I should get a discounted price right? This is by far the closest cleanest hotel for short time. The shower can fit 4 people. I was surprised this 3 star hotel has F-ing rooms available. Sadly, no A / see.
Hotel Casa Botero (prior Premier Plaza) is owned by Hotel Mandala Botero. They cleaned it up a little but no major work done. 60,000 per night now. I know because Mandala Botero has Hotel Casa Botero cards on their counter and I asked just to be sure. I also stayed at Casa Botero for a few nights.
Surfer you always mention Hotel Deseos but never the sister hotel. You need to learn the street better. The sister hotel is Hotel Soberano. The yellow hotel just around the corner from the airport bus drop off behind Nutribara. I stayed at Soberano my last trip for 2 weeks 2 years ago. They had remodeled everything. New flooring, paint, toilet, sink, shower. The best rooms are 310,410 maybe some others. The elevator does not work and looks as if it never will. I learned they are sister hotels when I had a problem with the cleaning lady they recommended Deseos. Also, I saw employees working both hotels.
Hotel Nutribara on Agoda.com they show pictures of a swimming pool, sauna, and steam room. None of the three exist and have not for many many years. I was going to try them for a few days but lying to customers like that pissed me off so the hell with them.
Why do folks always make a disingenuous argument when people say free? Free means no payment or 'gifts" to the chick. It does not mean you did not spend any money at all. Hell it is not free to live. You have to buy food, buy a car or pay for Uber or even the bus, unless you walk every damn where. When Denny's gives me a free meal on Veterans Day then it is not actually free because I had to put gas in my car to drive there to eat the meal? Be fucking serious. You know what people mean by free or no payment to the person.Eating at dennys is definitely no free after you vomit.
I've been posted here in a while but I've been here for over 10 years and the same reoccurring theme. We can have three pages of people arguing over 10,000 pesos for a taxi ride from the airport. These girls are dirt fucking poor they don't have hot water. Have you ever seen the inside of their houses? Why brag that you got them for cheap offer free. I always give them money because $50 is nothing to me $100 is nothing if a girl truly wants to hang out with me. I will tell her I'm not paying you for sex if we have chemistry and we have sex. Of course I will help you. There's plenty of regular girls or semi pro is whatever you call them, but those Facebook girls are ruined for life. The young ones everybody just takes advantage of them they eventually get smarter. Why do people brag that they got them for free or for $40 when you're making 50 to 100,000 a year you could change their life forever with $1000 but instead you come out here and you brag, how are you manipulated and took advantage of some dirt poor barrio girl who is future is nothing but fatherless children death and robbery. Why'all got a wake up.
JohnnieCash
08-09-23, 03:59
you could change their life forever with $1000More like for a week.
Have you ever seen the inside of their houses?It might surprise you but a lot people do not mind living the way they do, e. G. There is a lot of improvement they could do with some effort but they don't, because they simply don't care. It's only you that couldn't imagine living in such conditions. Same with hot water. Not a big deal.
Some people that have never been poor and seem to think these people live in constant state of suffering while in fact many if not most of them actually lead a happier more relaxed and socially fulfilling life than many rich folks. Especially when everyone around them is in similar situation more or less. Poor but happy.
There are exceptions of course but in most cases money will be spent on 6th pair of shoes, clothes and other throwables, plus a big screen TV repayment. 1 kg of rice is 5 mil COP in exito.
Money saved on hookers better give to a real charity, all the starving and homeless children fed already? Although whom to help is always a moral dilemma.
Besides, posters writing about the free sex here are mostly after 'she's with me for me not for the money' thing. I'm sure they spend on their GF plenty indirectly, just don't like to be charged by the hour.
I've been posted here in a while but I've been here for over 10 years and the same reoccurring theme. We can have three pages of people arguing over 10,000 pesos for a taxi ride from the airport. These girls are dirt fucking poor they don't have hot water. Have you ever seen the inside of their houses? Why brag that you got them for cheap offer free. I always give them money because $50 is nothing to me $100 is nothing if a girl truly wants to hang out with me. I will tell her I'm not paying you for sex if we have chemistry and we have sex. Of course I will help you. There's plenty of regular girls or semi pro is whatever you call them, but those Facebook girls are ruined for life. The young ones everybody just takes advantage of them they eventually get smarter. Why do people brag that they got them for free or for $40 when you're making 50 to 100,000 a year you could change their life forever with $1000 but instead you come out here and you brag, how are you manipulated and took advantage of some dirt poor barrio girl who is future is nothing but fatherless children death and robbery. Why'all got a wake up.99% of them, if you give them $1000 USD, will be broke again within a month. Many will be broke within a week. The only ones whose lives are changed forever by $1000 are the ones who get killed by whoever steals the money from them. That is the reality.
Yes, I've been in their homes, and I've seen how they live. I have no problem with handing out something extra. However, if you think giving them more money is going to somehow fix their crappy situation, you're the one who needs to wake up. The issues are a lot deeper than that.
Thanks a lot for posting one of the most important piece. That it has to be unblocked by company that the SIM was bought from.
I wish there was a website where one could go and register the SIM as well as request the unblock. It is way too cumbersome to even find out how to get the IMEI registered.
I have also heard that now a days unblocking can take 2-3 business days!
Had the same thing and had to go to the actual company store for the company that my original Colombia SIM was from. Took me a while to figure out as it was a year or two earlier on a previous trip. Find the nearest company store for the SIM you originally had, and the phone number you had. Google location. In my case it was in San Diego mall.
I was told only the original company you got the SIM from (that resulted in you getting blocked) can have it unblocked.
I assume this is after you purchase a Colombia SIM and your phone was locked after you use it. For Claro, I was told you need to go to the one inside LOS Molinos. You will need to pay for it too. For Movistar, you probably can find out from a store. The SIM needs to be registered with your passport. My SIM was locked despite that I only had it for less than a week. That is my experience anyway.Yeah, I have got two phones blocked in Colombia now. Running out of phones. Thanks for replying.
You need to register your IMEI with some telecommunications department (I forgot the name of it). It costs 20 mil. I did it twice, the first time online using the link provided by Movistar support, and the 2nd time at Movistar store. However it took a couple of weeks or so for my phone to start working. Interestingly enough, I was able to use DATA the entire time, but could not make calls or send text messages. After a few weeks, it finally got fully unlocked.Couple of weeks. What a mess. I will have to contact movistar support to see if they can help.
I have also heard that now a days unblocking can take 2-3 business days!It did not take long for me. Claro asked me to purchase an expensive plan to unblock my SIM. My phone was blocked after I already registered with another carrier. It was the registered carrier told me who blocked my phone. Now I always register with my passport to avoid the possible hassle when I get a new SIM despite my phone has been registered before.
I think my example is an exception. The phone usually will not be blocked for a short usage like 1 week like mine did.
It did not take long for me. Claro asked me to purchase an expensive plan to unblock my SIM. My phone was blocked after I already registered with another carrier. It was the registered carrier told me who blocked my phone. Now I always register with my passport to avoid the possible hassle when I get a new SIM despite my phone has been registered before.
I think my example is an exception. The phone usually will not be blocked for a short usage like 1 week like mine did.Not true. I was in Colombia for less than a week and my both phones got blocked. And just today I already got a message from Tigo regarding my phone blockage. It has been just 4 days.
How do register with your passport. Can you please explain?
Not true. I was in Colombia for less than a week and my both phones got blocked. And just today I already got a message from Tigo regarding my phone blockage. It has been just 4 days.
How do register with your passport. Can you please explain?That makes you an exception too. LOL. I try not too be too assertive on these things as my only goal is to share information. If I said it otherwise, someone may jump out and start another debate which I try to avoid as it is useless in my view.
The only way I have done it is take my passport to a company store to have them register it. There are other ways to register it like via a link that was mentioned but I have never received a link or done it.
Not true. I was in Colombia for less than a week and my both phones got blocked. And just today I already got a message from Tigo regarding my phone blockage. It has been just 4 days.
How do register with your passport. Can you please explain?This is for Claro.
You need to go to an OFFICIAL Claro company store, such as the one inside the Andino Mall. You need your passport (or a copy), and the salesperson will register your passport with the SIM on their computer. Then you go to the cashier and pay for a package. It is then official.
Warning: if you go to an unofficial store or corner kiosk, and if you buy and use a SIM, it is not official. I had a bad experience once. I mistakenly thought a phone store was an official Claro office. The MFer salesperson lied to me; he BSed something like that the passports were invalid. He wanted to sell me his phones for sale with a preloaded SIM. I'm assuming it would have worked since he would have made a profit on the phone. I mistakenly bought a SIM from him (of course I was overcharged). I loaded it, but only Social Media worked. No minutes or data. I was told by Claro that the SIM was "unauthorized". Be careful if you go to an unofficial store.
It seems the SIM has to be registered to someone. Either your passport at the official Claro store, or a SIM from the street that is registered to a local; but that can be dangerous since that person can cancel / change.
Some people here are reporting that their phones gets locked when using an unauthorized SIM. Don't really understand that. Of course the phone company (such as Claro) can lock you out of their system, but can they lock your phone with ALL phone carriers, including inside the US? Don't know.
Either register your SIM legally, or get the SIM from a person you can trust 100%.
Note: you can get a legal SIM when you exit El Dorado Airport baggage area; it's right in front. But price is more than triple for maybe one third the data. It is priced in US dollars, so obviously it's a rip-off. But it might be worth the convenience for some.
LoveItHere
08-10-23, 03:02
I am not a techie. I know that internet connections in Colombia can be bad at times. But why not just use Whatsapp? It is free and ready to go as soon as the plane lands. I believe nearly 95% of people and businesses use it. What is the huge advantage of having a local sim? I assume 15% less problems with connections. I do not speak Spanish. But texting has worked out fine for me and you can make calls with Whatsapp. I am getting laid just fine without a sim so please list a few big advantages of having a local sim?
This is for Claro.
You need to go to an OFFICIAL Claro company store, such as the one inside the Andino Mall. You need your passport (or a copy), and the salesperson will register your passport with the SIM on their computer. Then you go to the cashier and pay for a package. It is then official.
Warning: if you go to an unofficial store or corner kiosk, and if you buy and use a SIM, it is not official. I had a bad experience once. I mistakenly thought a phone store was an official Claro office. The MFer salesperson lied to me; he BSed something like that the passports were invalid. He wanted to sell me his phones for sale with a preloaded SIM. I'm assuming it would have worked since he would have made a profit on the phone. I mistakenly bought a SIM from him (of course I was overcharged). I loaded it, but only Social Media worked. No minutes or data. I was told by Claro that the SIM was "unauthorized". Be careful if you go to an unofficial store.
It seems the SIM has to be registered to someone. Either your passport at the official Claro store, or a SIM from the street that is registered to a local; but that can be dangerous since that person can cancel / change.
Some people here are reporting that their phones gets locked when using an unauthorized SIM. Don't really understand that. Of course the phone company (such as Claro) can lock you out of their system, but can they lock your phone with ALL phone carriers, including inside the US? Don't know.
Either register your SIM legally, or get the SIM from a person you can trust 100%.
Note: you can get a legal SIM when you exit El Dorado Airport baggage area; it's right in front. But price is more than triple for maybe one third the data. It is priced in US dollars, so obviously it's a rip-off. But it might be worth the convenience for some.It is an agency of the government of Colombia that locks phones that have not been properly registered in the country. The lock only applies when you are in Colombia, but to all the carriers there. And it is based on the phone itself, not any particular SIM (the IMEI). You have a couple of weeks or more to complete the registration, but if you do not register is by their deadline your phone will be blocked even if you have already left the country. In other words, you might have only been there for a week, but they send out a text message and if you do not respond the phone gets blocked anyway, which you find out the next time you visit the country and try to get a SIM from anyone.
And the resellers of SIMS might be perfectly good people, and that would be fine if your phone was already legally in the country, but until it is registered as a legal phone in the country by going through the process of registering it, you can buy SIM cards from whoever you want and they will not work once you have been blocked.
It is an agency of the government of Colombia that locks phones that have not been properly registered in the country. The lock only applies when you are in Colombia, but to all the carriers there. And it is based on the phone itself, not any particular SIM (the IMEI). You have a couple of weeks or more to complete the registration, but if you do not register is by their deadline your phone will be blocked even if you have already left the country. In other words, you might have only been there for a week, but they send out a text message and if you do not respond the phone gets blocked anyway, which you find out the next time you visit the country and try to get a SIM from anyone.
And the resellers of SIMS might be perfectly good people, and that would be fine if your phone was already legally in the country, but until it is registered as a legal phone in the country by going through the process of registering it, you can buy SIM cards from whoever you want and they will not work once you have been blocked.The takeaway from all this phone discussion as far as I see it is for a someone who won't be in Colombia for much time is to obtain International service if your carrier offers it and use your USA phone if that is where your from.
A Colombian phone and number unfortunately will not work if you have apps that may require secondary verification in instances where they only do it by text, hence you may have some difficult situations, as an example with some USA banks they will not send texts to an overseas number such as when there is an issue with your ATM cards.
My advice to those here for short periods of time is not to bother with a Colombian phone.
I know someone who needed information from Social Security while in Colombia and could not obtain it as it required two step verification, but they only offered it by text to his number and not by E mail, so he had a problem to resolve.
I'm sure there are some work arounds for this for the tech savy, but some just are not tech savy.
I am not a techie. I know that internet connections in Colombia can be bad at times. But why not just use Whatsapp? It is free and ready to go as soon as the plane lands. I believe nearly 95% of people and businesses use it. What is the huge advantage of having a local sim? I assume 15% less problems with connections. I do not speak Spanish. But texting has worked out fine for me and you can make calls with Whatsapp. I am getting laid just fine without a sim so please list a few big advantages of having a local sim?For me it is 2 things. Mde is a big city, I am often in cabs or rideshares enroute to elsewhere & I need to make plans, advise of lateness, seek dates for the morning etc. Etc. , this is impossible unless I am on a local network.
2) often I am in a restaurant or bar or store etc. Etc. & I need to go outside to meet the ride. Wifi aint workin in the street! I have lost rides because they were around the corner or something & we could not connect.
The takeaway from all this phone discussion as far as I see it is for a someone who won't be in Colombia for much time is to obtain International service if your carrier offers it and use your USA phone if that is where your from.
A Colombian phone and number unfortunately will not work if you have apps that may require secondary verification in instances where they only do it by text, hence you may have some difficult situations, as an example with some USA banks they will not send texts to an overseas number such as when there is an issue with your ATM cards.
My advice to those here for short periods of time is not to bother with a Colombian phone.
I know someone who needed information from Social Security while in Colombia and could not obtain it as it required two step verification, but they only offered it by text to his number and not by E mail, so he had a problem to resolve.
I'm sure there are some work arounds for this for the tech savy, but some just are not tech savy.My carrier in north america has free texting to most countries. So I have my phone with me, I get texts, even without any expensive international roaming add-ONS. So I can get my two step authentication texts. I have a second phone, or a phone that takes dual SIMs, and use my Colombian number for calls and business in Colombia. OR, if your carrier offers a reasonably priced international plan go with that. Mine does not, hence the second phone and local SIM option.
My buddy and I decided to head out to Fase Dos last night around 11 pm. Like all places, it can be hit or miss you just got to go and check it out. Some nights you hit the jackpot and it is brimming with talent, but other nights, it sucks, with just older ugly hags playing with their phones. As we entered we scoped out the talent and sat at the bar. About 20-25 girls, but nothing that reall caught our eye. We were about to get up and leave when two hotties came bouncing through the front door, apparently late for their shift. We were going to stay a little while longer. They head to the back and change, and 20 minutes later come out hand in hand with glittery miniskirts and heels, giggling and smiling. Ohhhh my God. We quickly waved them over before anyone else swooped in on them. Daniela, a 19 yr old slender all natural beauty with that beautiful silky smooth long black hair cascading down her back and Ana, another spinner, 20 yr old, blonde with sparkling eyes and the face of an angel with smooth beautiful skin. They were from Manrique and had only been working a week. Conversation was good and full of energy and we as we always do with new girls let them know that we live here in Medellin in laureles, that quickly establishes that we are not gringo tourists here on vacation only for a week and then gone. We have no time pressure to force an expensive, unfulfilling sex act in the back while they are working. We told them we had to bolt, got their Wpp numbers and set up a double date for them to come over Saturday night and we would cook for them and have some drinks. Looks like we just added two fresh new girls to the roster. Que chimba es medellin!
JohnnieCash
08-10-23, 14:05
please list a few big advantages of having a local sim?Since many of business, online sellers and services (putas included) won't list the prices it's prudent to inquire from a Colombian number (Can't know a price of a damn pizza without going through whole whatsapp conversation, ffs. Well, at least they are responsive most of the time).
In general though, no advantages of randos knowing you're a gringo / tourist as far as I can tell.
It might surprise you but a lot people do not mind living the way they do, e. G. There is a lot of improvement they could do with some effort but they don't, because they simply don't care. It's only you that couldn't imagine living in such conditions. Same with hot water. Not a big deal.
Some people that have never been poor and seem to think these people live in constant state of suffering while in fact many if not most of them actually lead a happier more relaxed and socially fulfilling life than many rich folks. Especially when everyone around them is in similar situation more or less. Poor but happy.
There are exceptions of course but in most cases money will be spent on 6th pair of shoes, clothes and other throwables, plus a big screen TV repayment. 1 kg of rice is 5 mil COP in exito.
Money saved on hookers better give to a real charity, all the starving and homeless children fed already? Although whom to help is always a moral dilemma.
Besides, posters writing about the free sex here are mostly after 'she's with me for me not for the money' thing. I'm sure they spend on their GF plenty indirectly, just don't like to be charged by the hour.What about Venezuelan refugees that have to other way to earn than working as a hooker to feed their family. I'm sure you think they can choose to go flip some burger or something else instead right?
- To the original poster: Did you forget where you are posting? If you read the forum long enough, you probably realize you posted in the wrong place.
My carrier in north america has free texting to most countries. So I have my phone with me, I get texts, even without any expensive international roaming add-ONS. So I can get my two step authentication texts. I have a second phone, or a phone that takes dual SIMs, and use my Colombian number for calls and business in Colombia. OR, if your carrier offers a reasonably priced international plan go with that. Mine does not, hence the second phone and local SIM option.Whose the carrier?
I personally have Verizon with an International Plan so total normal, just like in the States and no issues and no need for a Colombian smart phone, however I do have a Colombian burner phone for ventures around the City.
So many horror stories in the past on this board about lost / stolen phones and the headaches they cause which I don't want.
There are at least a few people who are significantly more than $1,000 in debt. Assuming someone you have that amount would use it to pay down their debt, and this is a big assumption, that person would be closer to square one. Which further assumes the person would not run up yet more debt.
More like for a week.
It might surprise you but a lot people do not mind living the way they do, e. G. There is a lot of improvement they could do with some effort but they don't, because they simply don't care. It's only you that couldn't imagine living in such conditions. Same with hot water. Not a big deal.
Some people that have never been poor and seem to think these people live in constant state of suffering while in fact many if not most of them actually lead a happier more relaxed and socially fulfilling life than many rich folks. Especially when everyone around them is in similar situation more or less. Poor but happy.
There are exceptions of course but in most cases money will be spent on 6th pair of shoes, clothes and other throwables, plus a big screen TV repayment. 1 kg of rice is 5 mil COP in exito.
Money saved on hookers better give to a real charity, all the starving and homeless children fed already? Although whom to help is always a moral dilemma.
Besides, posters writing about the free sex here are mostly after 'she's with me for me not for the money' thing. I'm sure they spend on their GF plenty indirectly, just don't like to be charged by the hour.
At&t and t-mobile offer account plans that include international roaming data at no additional cost. I recommend you get one even if you already have a Colombia number. It covers you in a pinch if your Colombia service provider has an outage or your account is out of data. It of course also covers you if you travel somewhere other than Colombia.
For me it is 2 things. Mde is a big city, I am often in cabs or rideshares enroute to elsewhere & I need to make plans, advise of lateness, seek dates for the morning etc. Etc. , this is impossible unless I am on a local network.
2) often I am in a restaurant or bar or store etc. Etc. & I need to go outside to meet the ride. Wifi aint workin in the street! I have lost rides because they were around the corner or something & we could not connect.
I am not a techie. I know that internet connections in Colombia can be bad at times. But why not just use Whatsapp? It is free and ready to go as soon as the plane lands. I believe nearly 95% of people and businesses use it. What is the huge advantage of having a local sim? I assume 15% less problems with connections. I do not speak Spanish. But texting has worked out fine for me and you can make calls with Whatsapp. I am getting laid just fine without a sim so please list a few big advantages of having a local sim?You have to have an internet connection to use Whatsapp. The MDE airport has free wifi, but unless you have an international data plan, you can't use Whatsapp when you leave the airport on the way to Medellin. If you're riding in a taxi or rideshare or bus, you can't use Whatsapp. You can't receive or send messages, or make calls, when you're not connected to wifi. I pay Claro 41 mil for 30 days of calls, text, and data. To me, it's well worth it.
Whose the carrier?T-Mobile. Most / all plans have free text and slow (2 G?) data for 215 countries. 25 cent per minute. Unlimited minutes and faster (4 G?) data in Mexico and Canada. Decent prices if 55+ with multiple phones.
Didn't want to pay for roaming for half the year, so was forced to switch to T-mobile.
I always get the local 30 day plan for 41 K in Colombia (you can also get the 30 day plan with the same data but limited text/minutes, instead of unlimited text/minutes for ?31K).
If you don't like the hassle of going to a Claro company store, the Google Fi plan seems to be convenient.
I'm sure there are some work arounds for thisYou can get a Google Voice number. Get a Google voice number with a US cell number. Then add the Google number to the credit card / bank / etc as the primary number. Then when the company calls to verify, it should go to the Google Voice number, which you can get if you have internet data.
Only potential problem is that some of the banks / brokers / credit card companies might not work with the Google Voice number.
Medclubber
08-11-23, 01:08
Does anybody know where they sell XL sized condoms? Or anything bigger than the standard size that they sell here. I've seen this question before on the forum but wasn't answered then. Hopefully somebody knows.
Mr Enternational
08-11-23, 02:06
What about Venezuelan refugees that have to other way to earn than working as a hooker to feed their family. I'm sure you think they can choose to go flip some burger or something else instead right?Exactly. I have met too many Venezuelan refugees that are not hookers, so I know not to believe a lie that there is no other way. What do you suppose they will do when that way runs out if what you say is true?
Does anybody know where they sell XL sized condoms? Or anything bigger than the standard size that they sell here. I've seen this question before on the forum but wasn't answered then. Hopefully somebody knows.Most of the sex shops should have them, although the XL size aren't as large as XL sized condoms in the US.
JohnnieCash
08-11-23, 04:05
What about Venezuelan refugees that have to other way to earn than working as a hooker to feed their family. I'm sure you think they can choose to go flip some burger or something else instead right?Had the locals in mind. Vennies are in different category, often without support network, family and any other prospects, often just a BF and a bebe in a new land. Don't mind tipping them, not at all. And to clarify I'm talking about centro Vennies charging minimum rate, not the Poblado Vennies who quote in usd and won't budge when offered less than 300 mil. Those clearly have enough.
Strangely even though I have the contact list full of Vennies it's the Colombinas I barely know that send me the requests for money. "I'm visiting my aunt pueblo and can't afford a ticket to Medellin, mor". Here's the photo of some mountains.
One of the best one was from a chica in a club, asking to send some money, spamming nasty photos and how she'll give me a good time soon. All the while she was sitting like 3 meters from me. And didn't have a phone with her, left it at home.
My buddy and I decided to head out to Fase Dos last night around 11 pm. Like all places, it can be hit or miss you just got to go and check it out. Some nights you hit the jackpot and it is brimming with talent, but other nights, it sucks, with just older ugly hags playing with their phones. As we entered we scoped out the talent and sat at the bar. About 20-25 girls, but nothing that reall caught our eye. We were about to get up and leave when two hotties came bouncing through the front door, apparently late for their shift. We were going to stay a little while longer. They head to the back and change, and 20 minutes later come out hand in hand with glittery miniskirts and heels, giggling and smiling. Ohhhh my God. We quickly waved them over before anyone else swooped in on them. Daniela, a 19 yr old slender all natural beauty with that beautiful silky smooth long black hair cascading down her back and Ana, another spinner, 20 yr old, blonde with sparkling eyes and the face of an angel with smooth beautiful skin. They were from Manrique and had only been working a week. Conversation was good and full of energy and we as we always do with new girls let them know that we live here in Medellin in laureles, that quickly establishes that we are not gringo tourists here on vacation only for a week and then gone. We have no time pressure to force an expensive, unfulfilling sex act in the back while they are working. We told them we had to bolt, got their Wpp numbers and set up a double date for them to come over Saturday night and we would cook for them and have some drinks. Looks like we just added two fresh new girls to the roster. Que chimba es medellin!You are a true operator! Thank you my ISG brother for an actual report as this is the Medellin Reports.
LoveItHere
08-11-23, 06:01
You have to have an internet connection to use Whatsapp. The MDE airport has free wifi, but unless you have an international data plan, you can't use Whatsapp when you leave the airport on the way to Medellin. If you're riding in a taxi or rideshare or bus, you can't use Whatsapp. You can't receive or send messages, or make calls, when you're not connected to wifi. I pay Claro 41 mil for 30 days of calls, text, and data. To me, it's well worth it.I have Google FI. I just turn on "Mobile Data" for a few minutes to do some text messages or look at a map when I do not have internet connection. Cheap and easy.
Exactly. I have met too many Venezuelan refugees that are not hookers, so I know not to believe a lie that there is no other way. What do you suppose they will do when that way runs out if what you say is true?Yea like the lady that sells the empanadas venezolanas on calle 50 or the women yelling restaurante over by hotel calle real, I've even met a maracucho taxi driver (who was more honest than many colombian taxistas) . All of them are Venezuelan immigrants but none of them are hookers.
I regret to inform you that I have been seen her off and on since '15 when she was a mansion girl and she told me I was her "first client" anal back then, LOL. So don't take what girls say for being the truth.
I've seen Angie in 2018. I give her credit she's kept her body in shape.
She is married with kids and the husband knows.
She gives a mean BBBJCIM.
When I saw her it was 250 mil. I asked for anal she said she was a virgin back there. I made her an offer she accepted and we did it.
If you're going to see her have some 420 available since she's a straight stoner.
At&t and t-mobile offer account plans that include international roaming data at no additional cost. I recommend you get one even if you already have a Colombia number. It covers you in a pinch if your Colombia service provider has an outage or your account is out of data. It of course also covers you if you travel somewhere other than Colombia.The downside to a USA phone with International service in Colombia is if its lost or stolen and the issues associated with out it, such as no two step verification, no Whatsapp, etc.
This is the risk I see for those who use them here, however for those here for short periods of time and are smart with their phones it should not be an issue, in other words keep it hidden whenever you can as if it disappears your hosed.
Seems like some like to only roll with a Colombian number here, or only a USA number, and some with both, with seems to be the ideal situation as you mention.
PigSavinBoy
08-11-23, 15:11
It covers you in a pinch if your Colombia service provider has an outage or your account is out of data.I like to keep my Claro account always loaded with plenty of funds, when I notice I have ran out data then it's just *611#, go through the menus and get a new data package, payment deducted from the account funds.
Always good idea to have a backup of course, but as far as I know the international service providers will use one of the local provider' network and infrastructure anyway, so if local network is out it'll be the same for a phone with US or any other aboard provider while roaming. I'd also imagine local SPs prioritize their own traffic before the one they rent to 3rd parties, but I don't know for sure.
I have Google FI. I just turn on "Mobile Data" for a few minutes to do some text messages or look at a map when I do not have internet connection. Cheap and easy.I have Google Fi too. The difference is with Colombia plan, you get unlimited data for WhatsApp so you can send and receive pictures anywhere, and it costs much less.
Yea like the lady that sells the empanadas venezolanas on calle 50 or the women yelling restaurante over by hotel calle real, I've even met a maracucho taxi driver (who was more honest than many colombian taxistas) . All of them are Venezuelan immigrants but none of them are hookers.There are jobs available but it is either low pay or hard labor in a farm or factory somewhere. There are many of them in Brazil too but I haven't met one that is a hooker.
There are jobs available but it is either low pay or hard labor in a farm or factory somewhere. There are many of them in Brazil too but I haven't met one that is a hooker.I agree. It sounds suspicious. Hooking is fast money. It's difficult to go from fast quick money to bone breaking work like selling street food.
JohnnieCash
08-11-23, 15:42
I've even met a maracucho taxi driver (who was more honest than many colombian taxistas)It's been my experience that Venezolanos here are much less likely to scam / rob than locals, and majority of them are hard working decent people. It might be because they're not at home that they are on their best behavior, or might because just how they are. I don't know, never been to Venezuela, but some of my fav people that I've met here are Venezolanos.
They do like their sandals though.
I wish I could help. Unfortunately, like scent free deodorant and large size shoes, Trojan XL or Durex Comfort condoms are rare or non existent in Colombia.
Does anybody know where they sell XL sized condoms? Or anything bigger than the standard size that they sell here. I've seen this question before on the forum but wasn't answered then. Hopefully somebody knows.
Unless you speak fluent Spanish without an accent they they are going to know you are not from Colombia no matter what number you call from. Everyone knows I am not from Colombia the moment I open my mouth because of my accent. They still understand me.
Since many of business, online sellers and services (putas included) won't list the prices it's prudent to inquire from a Colombian number (Can't know a price of a damn pizza without going through whole whatsapp conversation, ffs. Well, at least they are responsive most of the time).
In general though, no advantages of randos knowing you're a gringo / tourist as far as I can tell.
Being a prostitute is sex work It is work like any other job. Different jobs pay different money. And would make the point that independents are actual business owners providing a service.
I agree. It sounds suspicious. Hooking is fast money. It's difficult to go from fast quick money to bone breaking work like selling street food.I was just wondering if you were speaking from the point of view of actually having experience doing sex work or just giving your opinion.
I am looking for some hotels or airbnbs that are friendly towards bringing girls without extra fees.
I know a spot in CDMX so I can share if you got good info.
JohnnieCash
08-12-23, 14:17
they are going to know you are not from Colombia no matter what number you call from. That's why you write not call.
Only when they are leaving me voice messages talking fast Spanish is when I might tell them to write me instead.
But even not speaking perfect Spanish and having local number gives less chance of random tourist, gone soon, let's-squeeze what we still can treatment.
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The many GuiaCereza sex shops in Medellin sell German-manufactured Vitalis condoms in XL Or one can order Chinese-made LifeStyles in 53 mm from Mercado Libre and they will often be delivered next day.
Then keep your mouth shut and just text.
Johhnie's advice is legit, so STFU.In order to get 'free' sex where you end up spending tons of cash on the puta you need to speak gringo Spanish not just text.
I made the logical assumption you meant written messages. Thanks for that helpful advice. It goes a long way toward preventing the Medellin forum devolving into what one of the Caribbean forums has become.
That's why you write not call.
Only when they are leaving me voice messages talking fast Spanish is when I might tell them to write me instead.
But even not speaking perfect Spanish and having local number gives less chance of random tourist, gone soon, let's-squeeze what we still can treatment.
Thanks! I'm going to give that a try.
The many GuiaCereza sex shops in Medellin sell German-manufactured Vitalis condoms in XL Or one can order Chinese-made LifeStyles in 53 mm from Mercado Libre and they will often be delivered next day.
I wish I could help. Unfortunately, like scent free deodorant and large size shoes, Trojan XL or Durex Comfort condoms are rare or non existent in Colombia.I could loan you a few Magnums I think I have a few left that I won't use.
This is a classic page from the prepago playbook. They are constantly having "first time" experiences and always just arrived for the days work at a casa or on the street. I laughed as I read this post because it made me think about how many times Centro girls I've seen an hour or more before I chat with them and they tell me they just got to the plaza.
I regret to inform you that I have been seen her off and on since '15 when she was a mansion girl and she told me I was her "first client" anal back then, LOL. So don't take what girls say for being the truth.
I'm good thanks. I go all boy scout on essential supplies so I don't get caught out. I appreciate the offer. We should always try to support each other.
I could loan you a few Magnums I think I have a few left that I won't use.
That is a good point. I keep spare SIMs I can activate via the carrier web site. I've been lucky to not have to use them so far. I once though I lost a phone but found it in my apartment right after I activated a spare SIM. Once I switched the newly activated SIM with the one I had been using my original phone was up and working again like my senior moment never happened.
The downside to a USA phone with International service in Colombia is if its lost or stolen and the issues associated with out it, such as no two step verification, no Whatsapp, etc.
This is the risk I see for those who use them here, however for those here for short periods of time and are smart with their phones it should not be an issue, in other words keep it hidden whenever you can as if it disappears your hosed.
Seems like some like to only roll with a Colombian number here, or only a USA number, and some with both, with seems to be the ideal situation as you mention.
That's why you write not call.
Only when they are leaving me voice messages talking fast Spanish is when I might tell them to write me instead.
But even not speaking perfect Spanish and having local number gives less chance of random tourist, gone soon, let's-squeeze what we still can treatment.Thank you for your very reasoned and eloquent response.
For me this advice is very interesting. Because I spend most of my time in the Dominican Republic and there is is a very real risk that if you do not know how much something should cost you will not be quoted the correct amount. Although I have very little experience in Colombia, I am in business there and my business partner makes sure we are not overpaying on operational cost and capital expenditures. But even in stores, restaurants and the streets I have found the individuals running those business to be fair and have not engaged in price gouging. How do I know? I check with my business partner afterwards. And so far I have gotten confirmation that the amounts I paid for the item or service was a fair market price.
Then keep your mouth shut and just text.
Johhnie's advice is legit, so STFU.I never said that I thought your advice was unsound. But I still don't see the need for a Colombian number unless I need to make outgoing calls. Then I will just add another E-sim to my iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 GB and and turn it on and off when I am in Colombia. The same way I do for my number I use in the Dominican Republic.
Smokers Rule
08-13-23, 04:35
Quick update for stays at Energy.
They're starting to ask the girls to have the guys bring them back down when they're done. Girl told me it's because of an incident with a Lleras girl that scoped a guy and robbed him then left.
On my first night I brought a girl back down and left with her (separate directions) and security didn't see so they Whatsapped me to see if the girl had left.
I appreciate this added level of security, and it is one of the reasons why I pay extra to stay at Energy.
BlueChange
08-13-23, 07:43
Quick update for stays at Energy.
They're starting to ask the girls to have the guys bring them back down when they're done. Girl told me it's because of an incident with a Lleras girl that scoped a guy and robbed him then left.
On my first night I brought a girl back down and left with her (separate directions) and security didn't see so they Whatsapped me to see if the girl had left.
I appreciate this added level of security, and it is one of the reasons why I pay extra to stay at Energy.This is becoming a norm amongst many of the Hi rise condos in poblado. Last Teo I stayed at the girl even told me when they arrived "you have to escort me down when I leave" more then happy to have this policy. Even more fun to give Hi fives to security knowing I smashed a smoke show.
Quick update for stays at Energy.
They're starting to ask the girls to have the guys bring them back down when they're done. Girl told me it's because of an incident with a Lleras girl that scoped a guy and robbed him then left.
On my first night I brought a girl back down and left with her (separate directions) and security didn't see so they Whatsapped me to see if the girl had left.
I appreciate this added level of security, and it is one of the reasons why I pay extra to stay at Energy.I don't understand how girls manage to steal a man from their room? About me, I always go to the hotel, and even if I was in an apartment, I always put my important things like money, passport, my phone, camera, in a safety box and if not There aren't any, I put them in my completely closed suitcase with a code to open the suitcase. I have never had a problem.
PassportGuy
08-13-23, 14:13
I am looking for some hotels or airbnbs that are friendly towards bringing girls without extra fees.
I know a spot in CDMX so I can share if you got good info.I'm at hotel biminimal in laureles they are fine with chicas as long as they don't spend the night. If they do spend the night it's 13 usd.
John Gault
08-13-23, 17:13
I don't understand how girls manage to steal a man from their room? About me, I always go to the hotel, and even if I was in an apartment, I always put my important things like money, passport, my phone, camera, in a safety box and if not There aren't any, I put them in my completely closed suitcase with a code to open the suitcase. I have never had a problem.You really need to do some research on the effects of the drug the girls use. What it does is make you completly being without will. She will say to you { Amore please open the safe } {Or Bebe lets go to the ATM. } You will gladly do what she asks you to do. Now if she gives you too strong of a dose then you will pass out and if it does not kill you then the locks you have will protect you.
You really need to do some research on the effects of the drug the girls use. What it does is make you completly being without will. She will say to you { Amore please open the safe } {Or Bebe lets go to the ATM. } You will gladly do what she asks you to do.....Hold on, if she says here take this dildo and fuck yourself while I film you, the scoped guy will do it? Then these girls could blackmail threatening to publish and ensure themselves of continuous paydays.
Every day, YouTube suckers post 4-5 HD videos about Lleras Park, notably girls standing in front of HOOKAH store. I don't want anyone to catch me when I'm talking to girls. It appears that hookah shop is the only place to find girls.
But even in stores, restaurants and the streets I have found the individuals running those business to be fair and have not engaged in price gouging.Yes, I have found most / all of those type of establishments to be fair. Definitely not like Vietnam.
But I have found numerous night club and all strip club waiters and a large percentage of taxi drivers to be rip off MFers.
What it does is make you completly being without will. She will say to you { Amore please open the safe } {Or Bebe lets go to the ATM. } You will gladly do what she asks you to do.Wow! All the efforts the CIA experimented on truth serums, and they could have just used the scope! LOL!
You really need to do some research on the effects of the drug the girls use. What it does is make you completly being without will. She will say to you { Amore please open the safe } {Or Bebe lets go to the ATM. } You will gladly do what she asks you to do. Now if she gives you too strong of a dose then you will pass out and if it does not kill you then the locks you have will protect you.I think that effect varies, but it does make some folks a lot more compliant. I hear of video monitors showing guys helping to carry stuff out of their apartments for the thieves. But some that have been scoped don't end up being very helpful. At least they don't find that they have revealed pin numbers and some things once they come out from under the effects of the drug.
The drug has been tested as a truth serum etc. And appears not to have been as useful as the stories might suggest.
I don't understand how girls manage to steal a man from their room? About me, I always go to the hotel, and even if I was in an apartment, I always put my important things like money, passport, my phone, camera, in a safety box and if not There aren't any, I put them in my completely closed suitcase with a code to open the suitcase. I have never had a problem.Scoped is short for being drugged with scopolamine. If that happens the security in your hotel room might not help a lot as the girl might have a couple of days to get you at the right level of being drugged that you may have given up your codes or whatever. Or not. But they also have time to pry open a suitcase of get some on line help from friends as to how to open your safe. You essentially are helpless when under the influence of the drug and probably a bit unconcerned about what is going on around you, if not unconcious.
John Gault
08-13-23, 22:55
Hold on, if she says here take this dildo and fuck yourself while I film you, the scoped guy will do it? Then these girls could blackmail threatening to publish and ensure themselves of continuous paydays.I will take your comment as it is given. There are many wise remarks I could make, but lets just say that it could happen except they are not long term players. All they want to do is get your goods and then hit the trail.
John Gault
08-13-23, 23:05
Every day, YouTube suckers post 4-5 HD videos about Lleras Park, notably girls standing in front of HOOKAH store. I don't want anyone to catch me when I'm talking to girls. It appears that hookah shop is the only place to find girls.You hit the nail on the head. For a guy who has to be careful these Clowns are so greedy to get likes that they don't care who they hurt. Myself I'm more concerned with all the Jokers coming to MDE in droves. Getting to be where I feel like to bring one of those portable chairs as I wait forever to get thru Customs in MDE.
Mr Enternational
08-13-23, 23:33
Every day, YouTube suckers post 4-5 HD videos about Lleras Park, notably girls standing in front of HOOKAH store. I don't want anyone to catch me when I'm talking to girls. It appears that hookah shop is the only place to find girls.Of course there is no privacy; you are in public.
I think that effect varies, but it does make some folks a lot more compliant. I hear of video monitors showing guys helping to carry stuff out of their apartments for the thieves. But some that have been scoped don't end up being very helpful. At least they don't find that they have revealed pin numbers and some things once they come out from under the effects of the drug.
The drug has been tested as a truth serum etc. And appears not to have been as useful as the stories might suggest.I read a few articles about the effects of being scoped, and it is not the way some are saying. The CIA actually spent a lot of time and money testing it as a truth serum, and in the end, it didn't work the way they expected. If this drug is so powerful that you will answer questions that you don't want to answer, believe me, the CIA would have used it on the terrorists but they didn't because it doesn't work that way.
It lowers your inhibitions the same way that being drunk does. Yes, it does knock you out which is the intended purpose. You may answer what your pin number is because you are dazed and confused but no different than if you were drunk.
There is actually 1973 study by the USA Army on the effects of the drug on subjects. I read it quickly but it said subjects were disconnected as if they were daydreaming and their answers were confused.
I think it is a myth that you lose your free will and you will answer all questions. You are just in a state of confusion as if you were drunk or high. If you are the type of person who gives out your ATM pin if you are drunk, then you will probably do the same thing if you are scoped. I tend not to be type of person but that's just me.
BowieBlueEyes
08-14-23, 01:18
Planning a trip to Medellin mid Sept. Let me know if you are going to be there.
It sounds like it is Facebook and maybe clubs that work. Are there any websites you would recommend? Do dating websites or apps work?
Those are good practices. I recokon you also avoid getting blackout drunk and / or high around the girls. Thank you for setting a good example.
I don't understand how girls manage to steal a man from their room? About me, I always go to the hotel, and even if I was in an apartment, I always put my important things like money, passport, my phone, camera, in a safety box and if not There aren't any, I put them in my completely closed suitcase with a code to open the suitcase. I have never had a problem.
The substance that shows up most commonly in toxicology tests is Benzodiazepine and its variants. It is scary as fuck that guys are getting this shit dripped into their drinkks.
You really need to do some research on the effects of the drug the girls use. What it does is make you completly being without will. She will say to you { Amore please open the safe } {Or Bebe lets go to the ATM. } You will gladly do what she asks you to do. Now if she gives you too strong of a dose then you will pass out and if it does not kill you then the locks you have will protect you.
GeneHickman
08-14-23, 07:53
I've been posted here in a while but I've been here for over 10 years and the same reoccurring theme. We can have three pages of people arguing over 10,000 pesos for a taxi ride from the airport. These girls are dirt fucking poor they don't have hot water. Have you ever seen the inside of their houses? Why brag that you got them for cheap offer free. I always give them money because $50 is nothing to me $100 is nothing if a girl truly wants to hang out with me. I will tell her I'm not paying you for sex if we have chemistry and we have sex. Of course I will help you. There's plenty of regular girls or semi pro is whatever you call them, but those Facebook girls are ruined for life. The young ones everybody just takes advantage of them they eventually get smarter. Why do people brag that they got them for free or for $40 when you're making 50 to 100,000 a year you could change their life forever with $1000 but instead you come out here and you brag, how are you manipulated and took advantage of some dirt poor barrio girl who is future is nothing but fatherless children death and robbery. Why'all got a wake up.Welcome to the jungle my friend, eat or be eaten. Go start handing out $1 k to "better their poor barrio lives" and see what that gets you, smh, some people got to learn the hard way.
The day I start handing out 1 k to people in Colombia is the day I start sucking sick in Colombia.
Why do people brag that they got them for free or for $40 when you're making 50 to 100,000 a year you could change their life forever with $1000 but instead you come out here and you brag, how are you manipulated and took advantage of some dirt poor barrio girl who is future is nothing but fatherless children death and robbery. Why'all got a wake up.Why don't you support poor old people with your money and only young, hot girls? If you want to be their simp and gringo-wallet that's fine but stop shaming other men what they do with their money. 40 $+ is fair price for sex taking into consideration they give it away for free to all local thugs and scumbags who pay 0 $. If girl is making sex with you daily that's 1200 $ just from one customer.
That's nice, tax free salary in Colombia (5 x of min wage). To make min Columbian wage (250 $) she is just need to make sex 6 times, that's very little effort for something other women who work low paid jobs like cleaning, farming, retail or food processing are paid for whole month of hard work.
'You could change their life forever with $1000. ' I appreciate you decided to make us laugh but it's not clown gathering.
I've been posted here in a while but I've been here for over 10 years and the same reoccurring theme. We can have three pages of people arguing over 10,000 pesos for a taxi ride from the airport. These girls are dirt fucking poor they don't have hot water. Have you ever seen the inside of their houses? Why brag that you got them for cheap offer free. I always give them money because $50 is nothing to me $100 is nothing if a girl truly wants to hang out with me. I will tell her I'm not paying you for sex if we have chemistry and we have sex. Of course I will help you. There's plenty of regular girls or semi pro is whatever you call them, but those Facebook girls are ruined for life. The young ones everybody just takes advantage of them they eventually get smarter. Why do people brag that they got them for free or for $40 when you're making 50 to 100,000 a year you could change their life forever with $1000 but instead you come out here and you brag, how are you manipulated and took advantage of some dirt poor barrio girl who is future is nothing but fatherless children death and robbery. Why'all got a wake up.Another person telling us how we should spend our money, saying that we should give these girls more money than agreed upon. I disagree that $1000 to these girls would change their life forever. That money would be spend so quickly, that a few weeks later, she would be back trying to find another customer. But more to the point, giving $1000 to each girl you see is tremendously expensive. Are we mongers or charities? Are we responsible for improving the lives of these girls who don't really care about us? But then you also mention $50 which is not very much for a session and $100 for a longer session which is close to the going rate for longer sessions or all night. You complain about guys paying $40 when you're paying $50 which isn't that much more.
To each his own. It's your money, spend it however you want. Don't let anyone tell you how to spend your own money especially a complete stranger who doesn't even know your situation.
It is not reasonable to expect privacy if you engage girls in Parque Lleras. Besides the hordes of youtubers who will exaggerate everything they see and show, the place is smothered in private and city surveillance cameras. It is not a place to go for low key fun.
Every day, YouTube suckers post 4-5 HD videos about Lleras Park, notably girls standing in front of HOOKAH store. I don't want anyone to catch me when I'm talking to girls. It appears that hookah shop is the only place to find girls.
OldSchool318
08-14-23, 17:59
That money would be spend so quickly, that a few weeks later, she would be back trying to find another customer.
To each his own. It's your money, spend it however you want. Don't let anyone tell you how to spend your own money especially a complete stranger who doesn't even know your situation.Agree with these snippets.
This goes for women anywhere in the world as I have had girlfriends from Netherlands and CR and Colombia and Mexico and of course the USA.
If a girl is not taught financial literacy and the value of a dollar, that $1000 will be gone in a week and she will be right back at starting point.
If she does know and was taught the value of a buck, she is probably not in this business very long if at all. Reasoning they are not desperate to earn, because they don't burn.
Also, plenty of these girls are getting money from different sources for different reasons. They play the game better than you would think.
Thanks! I'm going to give that a try.The Vitalis XL condoms aren't Magnum sized, but they're a bit larger than the standard. I've still got a 1 or 2 somewhere.
... Have you ever seen the inside of their houses? ... you could change their life forever with $1000 ....I have been and seen the all their belonging washed away during mud slide. Last time I went to visit a girl is to take her to ride metro to my place. She said "no metro" the moment I entered her place. I offered her 50 mil to take metro with me to my place. It's not a one time deal, it would be a few times a week while I was there. There was another 18 yr old girl said she did not have money because her period was just over. I told her I would pick her up at the station if she took metro to my place, and I would give her some money. She came but her mother gave her 10 mil to take the taxi, and I paid 5 mil because the cost was 15 mil. I took her to a restaurant to have dinner than gave her some money to go home. She took a taxi home. She then turned around to ask my wingman the same. Maybe there is a good one somewhere know that people are trying to help them and know to do the right thing, but so far I have not encountered one yet.
I think many would help if any of these girls life could be changed permanently by $1000. Why not?
Yes, I'll be there around the same time -- Sept 13-21 in my case. Also my first visit. Would be good to meet up and compare notes.
Planning a trip to Medellin mid Sept. Let me know if you are going to be there.
It sounds like it is Facebook and maybe clubs that work. Are there any websites you would recommend? Do dating websites or apps work?
I can tell you a few years ago I dated an utr working girl. And as many of you know I always side with the guys who spend more not less but in this instance I will tell you that not even 10 k will change their lives. They'll be broke within a month or two. And I know this from personal experience.
The amount really doesn't matter.
100 k could go just as fast. They'll buy car phone surgeries clothes bags and it'll all be gone poof.
What they won't do is something smart like start a business or buy a house.
This is the sad reality of hookers here.
StudPlayer
08-15-23, 02:49
https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/murio-turista-extranjero-jose-pacheco-al-parecer-por-escopolamina-en-medellin-FC22132887
Welcome to the jungle my friend, eat or be eaten. Go start handing out $1 k to "better their poor barrio lives" and see what that gets you, smh, some people got to learn the hard way.He would be kidnapped so fast and all his money drained.
I have been and seen the all their belonging washed away during mud slide. Last time I went to visit a girl is to take her to ride metro to my place. She said "no metro" the moment I entered her place. I offered her 50 mil to take metro with me to my place. It's not a one time deal, it would be a few times a week while I was there. There was another 18 yr old girl said she did not have money because her period was just over. I told her I would pick her up at the station if she took metro to my place, and I would give her some money. She came but her mother gave her 10 mil to take the taxi, and I paid 5 mil because the cost was 15 mil. I took her to a restaurant to have dinner than gave her some money to go home. She took a taxi home. She then turned around to ask my wingman the same. Maybe there is a good one somewhere know that people are trying to help them and know to do the right thing, but so far I have not encountered one yet.
I think many would help if any of these girls life could be changed permanently by $1000. Why not?Everybody's butt hurt especially the passport bros they think I'm handing out hundred dollar bills and they're insulted because they are cheapskates. That's why they take it personal I'm saying $1000 will change their life I would never give them $1000. How about 50 or $75 instead of using there Naked photos as a trophy cheapskates .
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GeneHickman
08-15-23, 14:50
He would be kidnapped so fast and all his money drained.Like I said, some got to learn the hard way.
I spent 10 days in Medellin in August and just came back. It was my first trip and overall it went very well. Some background info I am in my late 20's and speak decent spanish. I have been to Mexico a few time but never to Colombia. This forum helped me so I am giving back. I will try to be brief but know that this is my experience as a newbie and other people might have different experiences.
_ Huge amount of women willing to pay for play. It blows my mind how almost any women whose number I took (waitresses, students, girls seen outside) will entertain pay for play. Regular dates are also much easier to secure with beautiful women.
_ Gusto: Went to Gusto a Saturday night. It was overrated. One drink cost me 80000 pesos, more expensive than NYC. Also there is a cover charge. Girls were all hardened pros. Washed up and past their prime with tons of make up and botched surgery, not my style. They are all colluding to push for 300 usd which seems to work: saw some drunk gringos getting played. They spoke no spanish and used the translator app to communicate. Only girl I liked was the waitress so took her number and smashed the next day. Went there another time towards the end of my trip and once again talent is surprisingly lacking for the prices quoted. My friend found what he liked and negotiated down to 200 usd for an overnight.
_ Outside in Lleras Park is very mixed. Some hot girls and also some girls I would never touch. I spent a few hours at night just people watching and observing: most girls were getting 0 business. Not what I expected. Could see a few gringos that obviously wanted girls but they are shy and didn't approach the hot girls in group. They got accosted by washed up sharks instead, it was obvious they didn't like the girl but still went with her. Maybe too much in a hurry to get laid and too shy to approach the girls in groups? So tip is don't be shy and talk to the girls you like. I talked to the girls I found hot and got quotes and numbers. I always called their bluff: they would start with quotes around 300 - 500 mil but I always managed to take them to the 150 mil - 250 mil range.
I only went with one Lleras girl the whole trip, a hot 20 yo Venezuelan. Snatched her from her group and took her to a nearby bar. Negotiated what I wanted and agreed to 250 mil. She gave great service and stayed around 3 hours. I took many numbers but truth is Seeking and FB kept me busy and I only had 10 days this trip.
_ Facebook is indeed a gold mine. It has served me well. Girls will quote extravagant rates to gringos but call their bluff. I made two prepagos friends and they showed me the other side of the coin: business is slow. I don't like to cheap out but when I negotiate I almost always manage to take them to 150-250 mil + transport. Quotes are arbitrary: this hot 18 yo morena ended up staying a whole day with me for 250 mil and took me partying with her friend group (dangerous but against my better judgement) in a night club with only locals. She showed me her FB and she literally got some gringo in his 50's to agree to 700 mil pesos for an hour. She would have accepted 400 mil if he negotiated. So yeah price differences are wild.
I met around 4 FB girls and all were great. Most I paid was 400 mil for a night and lowest was 150 mil for a few hours. All gave great service and felt like semi-pros and took their time. One of the girl was not a prepago but eventually managed to convince her to go to a "date" with me. No price negotiated but gave her 300 mil after the night. I think it's fair to give her a little bit of money because I have no intention of becoming her novio.
_ Seeking also works well. Girls tend to quote higher. Paid 200 k for one and 300 k for the other. Worth it to me still: they were both students and showed me a good time. Girls tend to be more "upper class" in Seeking: FB has more girls from Bello, Itagui and poor neighborhoods. The girls I met in Seeking were students and seemed more classy in the way they dressed, spoke and also how they behaved in restaurants. I agreed to 500 mil for a girl that was really hot and it was worth it. 21 yo student that ended up being my favorite experience for this trip. It was actually a pleasure taking her to a high end restaurant and hanging out with her. Repeated with her on the last day of my trip and this is one I will be seeing again when I come back.
_ Loutron: Went once and I think it is overrated. Girls weren't that pretty and service is non GFE and rushed. Picked one that was a 7 since nothing better was there. Might just be my experience but for the same price termas in Brazil and FKKs in Germany blow it out the water. Even HK in Tijuana had much better looking girls. The mansion and the setting look great though. Just doesn't make any sense for me to pay 400 mil for girls that I don't even find that attractive when there is so much better out there. Felt a bit like Gusto: I was told pre-trip this is where the 10's hang out and I can say I didn't see any in these places. Not even a 9.
_ La Isla: Seems to be the most expensive spot in town (apart from Gusto scammers) but at least girls were hot and diverse in looks and styles. Went at night around 11 PM and there was a huge amount of girls of all types. I paid the cover charge and got a beer then made the round around the various tables where the girls were seated. Chatted and took the numbers of the girls I found hot then went with one that was a 9 in my book. Stereotypical tall, thick colombian look with pretty face. I don't like surgery but hers was small and not over the top. 550 mil is the price for the girl in the club with room included, no room for negotiation. Expensive but unlike in Loutron I felt like I got my money worth. Negotiated full GFE before: unlike in Loutron you have time to buy the girl a drink establish rapport and negotiate what you want.
_ So far one civie "GF" type that doesn't want money (at least for now). Usually spend the day going out with her then use prepagos at night. Met her in provenza and took her number. She speaks a bit of english and wants practice. Civie dating is worth it in Colombia but didn't have time to fully explore this option. Anyway thanks for the guys here who recommended the provenza area to find hot civies. It worked pretty well for me: a lot were with their boyfriends but the single ones responded positively when I talked to them. Could only go on dates with one because of time but will be back on my next trip.
I also did a lot of touristy stuff like spending a day in Guatape with a girl, visiting Communa 13 and other spots. I did some stuff that were ill advised safety wise like going to party with the prepago friends I made far away from Poblado but it ended up going well. Met and talked to a bunch of colombians away from the tourist hot spot of Poblado and also got to see how they live and party. Getting off the beaten path has worked out this time and I had a lot of great experiences but again not the wisest safety wise.
Thanks for the great report. Medellin is amazing and most people are nicer. Agree FB is where you find most of the girls and I stick to it. I even found few girls that actually speak English. Enough to have a conversation.
I spent 10 days in Medellin in August and just came back. It was my first trip and overall it went very well. Some background info I am in my late 20's and speak decent spanish. I have been to Mexico a few time but never to Colombia. This forum helped me so I am giving back. I will try to be brief but know that this is my experience as a newbie and other people might have different experiences.
_ Huge amount of women willing to pay for play. It blows my mind how almost any women whose number I took (waitresses, students, girls seen outside) will entertain pay for play. Regular dates are also much easier to secure with beautiful women.
_ Gusto: Went to Gusto a Saturday night. It was overrated. One drink cost me 80000 pesos, more expensive than NYC. Also there is a cover charge. Girls were all hardened pros. Washed up and past their prime with tons of make up and botched surgery, not my style. They are all colluding to push for 300 usd which seems to work: saw some drunk gringos getting played. They spoke no spanish and used the translator app to communicate. Only girl I liked was the waitress so took her number and smashed the next day. Went there another time towards the end of my trip and once again talent is surprisingly lacking for the prices quoted. My friend found what he liked and negotiated down to 200 usd for an overnight.
_ Outside in Lleras Park is very mixed. Some hot girls and also some girls I would never touch. I spent a few hours at night just people watching and observing: most girls were getting 0 business. Not what I expected. Could see a few gringos that obviously wanted girls but they are shy and didn't approach the hot girls in group. They got accosted by washed up sharks instead, it was obvious they didn't like the girl but still went with her. Maybe too much in a hurry to get laid and too shy to approach the girls in groups? So tip is don't be shy and talk to the girls you like. I talked to the girls I found hot and got quotes and numbers. I always called their bluff: they would start with quotes around 300 - 500 mil but I always managed to take them to the 150 mil - 250 mil range.
I only went with one Lleras girl the whole trip, a hot 20 yo Venezuelan. Snatched her from her group and took her to a nearby bar. Negotiated what I wanted and agreed to 250 mil. She gave great service and stayed around 3 hours. I took many numbers but truth is Seeking and FB kept me busy and I only had 10 days this trip.
_ Facebook is indeed a gold mine. It has served me well. Girls will quote extravagant rates to gringos but call their bluff. I made two prepagos friends and they showed me the other side of the coin: business is slow. I don't like to cheap out but when I negotiate I almost always manage to take them to 150-250 mil + transport. Quotes are arbitrary: this hot 18 yo morena ended up staying a whole day with me for 250 mil and took me partying with her friend group (dangerous but against my better judgement) in a night club with only locals. She showed me her FB and she literally got some gringo in his 50's to agree to 700 mil pesos for an hour. She would have accepted 400 mil if he negotiated. So yeah price differences are wild.
I met around 4 FB girls and all were great. Most I paid was 400 mil for a night and lowest was 150 mil for a few hours. All gave great service and felt like semi-pros and took their time. One of the girl was not a prepago but eventually managed to convince her to go to a "date" with me. No price negotiated but gave her 300 mil after the night. I think it's fair to give her a little bit of money because I have no intention of becoming her novio.
_ Seeking also works well. Girls tend to quote higher. Paid 200 k for one and 300 k for the other. Worth it to me still: they were both students and showed me a good time. Girls tend to be more "upper class" in Seeking: FB has more girls from Bello, Itagui and poor neighborhoods. The girls I met in Seeking were students and seemed more classy in the way they dressed, spoke and also how they behaved in restaurants. I agreed to 500 mil for a girl that was really hot and it was worth it. 21 yo student that ended up being my favorite experience for this trip. It was actually a pleasure taking her to a high end restaurant and hanging out with her. Repeated with her on the last day of my trip and this is one I will be seeing again when I come back.
_ Loutron: Went once and I think it is overrated. Girls weren't that pretty and service is non GFE and rushed. Picked one that was a 7 since nothing better was there. Might just be my experience but for the same price termas in Brazil and FKKs in Germany blow it out the water. Even HK in Tijuana had much better looking girls. The mansion and the setting look great though. Just doesn't make any sense for me to pay 400 mil for girls that I don't even find that attractive when there is so much better out there. Felt a bit like Gusto: I was told pre-trip this is where the 10's hang out and I can say I didn't see any in these places. Not even a 9.
_ La Isla: Seems to be the most expensive spot in town (apart from Gusto scammers) but at least girls were hot and diverse in looks and styles. Went at night around 11 PM and there was a huge amount of girls of all types. I paid the cover charge and got a beer then made the round around the various tables where the girls were seated. Chatted and took the numbers of the girls I found hot then went with one that was a 9 in my book. Stereotypical tall, thick colombian look with pretty face. I don't like surgery but hers was small and not over the top. 550 mil is the price for the girl in the club with room included, no room for negotiation. Expensive but unlike in Loutron I felt like I got my money worth. Negotiated full GFE before: unlike in Loutron you have time to buy the girl a drink establish rapport and negotiate what you want.
_ So far one civie "GF" type that doesn't want money (at least for now). Usually spend the day going out with her then use prepagos at night. Met her in provenza and took her number. She speaks a bit of english and wants practice. Civie dating is worth it in Colombia but didn't have time to fully explore this option. Anyway thanks for the guys here who recommended the provenza area to find hot civies. It worked pretty well for me: a lot were with their boyfriends but the single ones responded positively when I talked to them. Could only go on dates with one because of time but will be back on my next trip.
I also did a lot of touristy stuff like spending a day in Guatape with a girl, visiting Communa 13 and other spots. I did some stuff that were ill advised safety wise like going to party with the prepago friends I made far away from Poblado but it ended up going well. Met and talked to a bunch of colombians away from the tourist hot spot of Poblado and also got to see how they live and party. Getting off the beaten path has worked out this time and I had a lot of great experiences but again not the wisest safety wise.
....... Even HK in Tijuana had much better looking girls. ......Great report. I always enjoy reading the young uns having a good time. Interesting comparison between Loutrons and HK in Tijuana both of which I have frequented. I have consistently had hotter chicas in Loutrons. However, my last trip to HK was in 2010. Perhaps I need to revisit that establishment.
Got to learn from you. I never really negotiate. And I never really talk to local girls that aren't strictly in a p4 p setting. I've just had bad experiences in the states where girls reject me left and right. But if you're saying it's that easy here I'll give it a shot. I'm in Bogotá en and I live where there are a lot of university students. Got to get into the Facebook and seeking arrangements game. If you're getting those prices. I always thought it would be too expensive. But 500 k for a really decent girl I would take. What interesting tho is that they stay for more than an hour for you.
I feel you're really tall and foreign. Looking. And really good at talking to people. Because you're having crazy success.
Like I've never tried to talk to the gusta waitress (she's hotter then the working girls) because one time I did try to talk to her and she ignored me and referred me to the bartender dude to order a drink.
I spent 10 days in Medellin in August and just came back. It was my first trip and overall it went very well. Some background info I am in my late 20's and speak decent spanish. I have been to Mexico a few time but never to Colombia. This forum helped me so I am giving back. I will try to be brief but know that this is my experience as a newbie and other people might have different experiences.
_ Huge amount of women willing to pay for play. It blows my mind how almost any women whose number I took (waitresses, students, girls seen outside) will entertain pay for play. Regular dates are also much easier to secure with beautiful women.
_ Gusto: Went to Gusto a Saturday night. It was overrated. One drink cost me 80000 pesos, more expensive than NYC. Also there is a cover charge. Girls were all hardened pros. Washed up and past their prime with tons of make up and botched surgery, not my style. They are all colluding to push for 300 usd which seems to work: saw some drunk gringos getting played. They spoke no spanish and used the translator app to communicate. Only girl I liked was the waitress so took her number and smashed the next day. Went there another time towards the end of my trip and once again talent is surprisingly lacking for the prices quoted. My friend found what he liked and negotiated down to 200 usd for an overnight...
You overlooked the most important criteria, which is fluency in Spanish. I'm having trouble texting in Spanish. Is there a way to auto-translate discussions from English to Spanish and vice versa?
Got to learn from you. I never really negotiate. And I never really talk to local girls that aren't strictly in a p4 p setting. I've just had bad experiences in the states where girls reject me left and right. But if you're saying it's that easy here I'll give it a shot. I'm in Bogot en and I live where there are a lot of university students. Got to get into the Facebook and seeking arrangements game. If you're getting those prices. I always thought it would be too expensive. But 500 k for a really decent girl I would take. What interesting tho is that they stay for more than an hour for you.
I feel you're really tall and foreign. Looking. And really good at talking to people. Because you're having crazy success.
Like I've never tried to talk to the gusta waitress (she's hotter then the working girls) because one time I did try to talk to her and she ignored me and referred me to the bartender dude to order a drink.
Everybody's butt hurt especially the passport bros they think I'm handing out hundred dollar bills and they're insulted because they are cheapskates. That's why they take it personal I'm saying $1000 will change their life I would never give them $1000. How about 50 or $75 instead of using there Naked photos as a trophy cheapskates .Nobody is butt hurt. Everyone is just repeating the same fact:
$1,000 will not change any of those girl's lives.
Unless they are childless and one of the unemployed boys in their neighborhood knocks them up while helping them blow through the money.
The girls whose lives might be changed by $1000 are already in the process of changing their lives. They are saving money, getting an education and developing a workable plan for the future. For them, the money would just get them there a little faster.
DiscoverFL
08-16-23, 13:46
You overlooked the most important criteria, which is fluency in Spanish. I'm having trouble texting in Spanish. Is there a way to auto-translate discussions from English to Spanish and vice versa?On Android phones, Google's GBoard Keyboard and Microsoft's keyboard both support real-time translation; making it easy to write in Englisha and send in Spanish.
JohnnieCash
08-16-23, 19:29
Nobody is butt hurt. Everyone is just repeating the same fact:
$1,000 will not change any of those girl's lives.
Unless they are childless and one of the unemployed boys in their neighborhood knocks them up while helping them blow through the money.They could also OD from too much tussi and / or get beaten up and sliced while being robbed for all that cash. So I guess technically yes, one could change their lives with $1000.
Mr Enternational
08-16-23, 19:43
Nobody is butt hurt. Everyone is just repeating the same fact: $1,000 will not change any of those girl's lives. The girls whose lives might be changed by $1000 are already in the process of changing their lives. They are saving money, getting an education and developing a workable plan for the future. For them, the money would just get them there a little faster.The other week ago I was in Rio fucking a hooker. I asked her if she was not doing this what would she be doing. She had absolutely no idea. No dreams or aspirational at all. Like you said the people that plan on doing something different already have a plan to do something different.
Mono Sin Luz
08-17-23, 03:27
For those who have been successful at getting to know woman through FB, I have a question. I created a profile months ago, and have been slowly adding woman. I have 77 "friends" so far. I haven't talked with anyone yet. Some clearly are bots or something, or may be just selling content it seems.
My question is, do you also add guys? As I said, I currently have 77 woman friends and only send friend requests to woman. Is that what you also do?
I'm guessing if that's the case is just too obvious what I'm looking for. No?
You overlooked the most important criteria, which is fluency in Spanish. I'm having trouble texting in Spanish. Is there a way to auto-translate discussions from English to Spanish and vice versa?I'm Hispanic and look Hispanic but people can tell I'm not from Colombia if they give me another look. I speak Spanish well but I have a different accent. Who knows maybe this guy is just really good with the ladies and not just with his wallet. The girls might see it as wow I would do him for free but he's paying me? Nice bonus!
Either way I aspire to be like him / make so much money I can do anyone I want.
At the end of the day we all pay for it somehow.
Hax.
Nobody is butt hurt. Everyone is just repeating the same fact:
$1,000 will not change any of those girl's lives.
Unless they are childless and one of the unemployed boys in their neighborhood knocks them up while helping them blow through the money.
The girls whose lives might be changed by $1000 are already in the process of changing their lives. They are saving money, getting an education and developing a workable plan for the future. For them, the money would just get them there a little faster.It does work 1 thousand dollars could pay the rent for quite a few months. I've done it with my girlfriend and I put her in beauty school in El Centro. She's working in the salon now. Everybody missed the point of what I said they thought I was telling him to be a Simp and throw money around. I'm just saying the narrative here is saving nine dollars for a taxi coming back from the airport taking two different buses and taking advantage of young girls because you think they are working girls and they need to be treated like that. Just give them the $75. I understand you want to think that they are with you because they like you that's fine get them there for that purpose, but give them the money anyway. I've been living here for 12 years so there's not too many people they were going to tell me how to run my life. And I'm not telling you how to spend your money but don't take advantage of these girls. Just because you can! Does anybody agree with that?
For those who have been successful at getting to know woman through FB, I have a question. I created a profile months ago, and have been slowly adding woman. I have 77 "friends" so far. I haven't talked with anyone yet. Some clearly are bots or something, or may be just selling content it seems.
My question is, do you also add guys? As I said, I currently have 77 woman friends and only send friend requests to woman. Is that what you also do?
I'm guessing if that's the case is just too obvious what I'm looking for. No?I recommend make sure the Facebook profile is not connected to your real life or your legitimate life. Whatever you want to call it. I never added men to mine, but that will help you get into the algorithm. If you have friends with common interest. Once you start adding the girls, they will come to you. You will see them in the front suggestions go through the photos look for them in Gringo Apartments Jacuzzis and things like that they have a lot of Gringo's clicking on their photos you know that you're in the game.
Mono Sin Luz
08-17-23, 16:35
I recommend make sure the Facebook profile is not connected to your real life or your legitimate life. Whatever you want to call it. I never added men to mine, but that will help you get into the algorithm. If you have friends with common interest. Once you start adding the girls, they will come to you. You will see them in the front suggestions go through the photos look for them in Gringo Apartments Jacuzzis and things like that they have a lot of Gringo's clicking on their photos you know that you're in the game.Thanks for the reply and the tips. I already got one's phone number, so I think I'm getting there.
It does work 1 thousand dollars could pay the rent for quite a few months. I've done it with my girlfriend and I put her in beauty school in El Centro. She's working in the salon now. ... Does anybody agree with that?I agree with all the points you made. Of course there are many who have no plans for the future and any amount won't change their life, but that's everywhere. Just look at the welfare state in the US.
I can't believe we are debating running around Colombia passing out 1 k cash to people. That's the equivalent to running around America passing out 10 k to everyone. One thing I've learned in my old age, is you can't save the world. The world is screwed up. There is a type of genetic lottery: where were you born, who your parents are, are you a great athlete, are you good looking, what trauma were you exposed too when you were a kid, it's really endless. All these things contribute to what we become. Warren Buffett said he was lucky when he was born in 1930, it was in America, he was white and male. Any of those things been different, he doesn't get to use his skill set to become a billionaire. Lebron James is similar. If was born in 1800 instead of today, his life would have turned out completely different.
AmorPorFavor
08-17-23, 17:59
It does work 1 thousand dollars could pay the rent for quite a few months. I've done it with my girlfriend and I put her in beauty school in El Centro. She's working in the salon now. Everybody missed the point of what I said they thought I was telling him to be a Simp and throw money around. I'm just saying the narrative here is saving nine dollars for a taxi coming back from the airport taking two different buses and taking advantage of young girls because you think they are working girls and they need to be treated like that. Just give them the $75. I understand you want to think that they are with you because they like you that's fine get them there for that purpose, but give them the money anyway. I've been living here for 12 years so there's not too many people they were going to tell me how to run my life. And I'm not telling you how to spend your money but don't take advantage of these girls. Just because you can! Does anybody agree with that?Yes I agree with you. I'm not going to be giving out $1,000 to them but it amazes me how cheap some mongers are. Going on and on about saving $9 on a cab ride and a few bucks on a phone plan. I was lucky enough to be born in the first world like most of these guys who like to nickel and dime girls born into poverty. Now I'm not throwing around dollars like an idiot making it rain and I do negotiate prices down but $25 is piss to me. Can't even buy a burger in a nice restaurant with that where I live. I take no joy in beating them down as far as possible and am convinced that for the type of girls I'm doing, SA and FB, that I get much better and longer dates with them. As much sex as I can muster and most of it BB without asking. They can't wait to come see me again. I take no joy in exploiting people from poor countries. No woman likes a cheap man. OK all the cheapskate trolls can attack now.
Yes I agree with you. I'm not going to be giving out $1,000 to them but it amazes me how cheap some mongers are. Going on and on about saving $9 on a cab ride and a few bucks on a phone plan. I was lucky enough to be born in the first world like most of these guys who like to nickel and dime girls born into poverty. Now I'm not throwing around dollars like an idiot making it rain and I do negotiate prices down but $25 is piss to me. Can't even buy a burger in a nice restaurant with that where I live. I take no joy in beating them down as far as possible and am convinced that for the type of girls I'm doing, SA and FB, that I get much better and longer dates with them. As much sex as I can muster and most of it BB without asking. They can't wait to come see me again. I take no joy in exploiting people from poor countries. No woman likes a cheap man. OK all the cheapskate trolls can attack now.It always amazes me how other guys like to try to tell us how to spend our money. I work to earn money. It is my money to spend. Why should I listen to you on how much I will pay a girl? I don't go around telling you how much you should pay and you shouldn't tell me how much I should pay. I don't even know you and you don't know me. Every monger is different and everyone has his own way of spending money and that is his right.
JohnnieCash
08-17-23, 19:37
It does work 1 thousand dollars could pay the rent for quite a few months. I've done it with my girlfriend. ..... and taking advantage of young girls ... Just give them....Well, are we talking about girlfriends or hookers, which is it then? Or GF-hookers combined aka sugar babies?
And how is it taking advantage of the girl if she quotes me a price then I either accept it or not?
Should I pay rent of my aguacate vendor too? Just checking.
And what's with the bleeding heart for hookers. There are many people all around the country in much worse situation.
How about a waitress who works for 8 h for 30-40 mil, surely she deservers her rent paid as well. Oh wait, but she's not fucking so nope. Charity but only after blow job, is it?
Lastly I wonder why do you feel like telling people what they should spend. Are you a leftist politician?
P.S. Could anyone give me $1000 so I can pay my rent, pretty please. Surely you can afford it. (JK, give it to starving children or blow it on the horse track -- your money, not my damn business).
Mr Enternational
08-17-23, 21:04
And I'm not telling you how to spend your money but don't take advantage of these girls. Just because you can! Does anybody agree with that?Some may say they are taking advantage of you. Are there any Colombian guys giving them $75?
Just like in Thailand, it costs a Thai $1. 10 to go to a national park. It costs foreigners 5 times as much. Should foreigners be happy to pay 5 times as much because it will change Thailand or are foreigners being taken advantage of? I for one prefer to pay according to how much something costs without the price being adjusted for how much I may have or what I may be worth.
"Entry fee: National park entrance fee is 200 THB for Non-Thai adults and 100 for Non-Thai children, for Thai adults it is 40 THB, and for Thai children, it is 20 THB, parking for cars is 30 Baht. ".
Mr Enternational
08-17-23, 21:16
I take no joy in exploiting people from poor countries. No woman likes a cheap man. OK all the cheapskate trolls can attack now.You are talking about hookers. How are you exploiting them? You are not coaxing them into selling ass. They are putting out a product. They are not going to sell it to you for any less than they are going to sell it to you. Best of all there is no need to try to impress them by playing big spender.
When I go to McDonald's I am not concerned about what McDonald's likes. I am going there to spend money on what I like, not trying to impress or make them happy. Of course a hooker wants to come back and see you, the same as you want to go back and see your job tomorrow to get more money. Is your boss bragging about you as an employee do not want to work for a cheap company or that he takes no joy in expoliting you? No. It is come to work and get paid what we are paying or find somewhere else to work.
I recommend make sure the Facebook profile is not connected to your real life or your legitimate life. I only have Facebook on my computer. Is there a way to use the app on my phone without it connecting my profile to all my contacts? Otherwise, to be safe, I think I'll just keep using it only on my computer. Thanks.
It does work 1 thousand dollars could pay the rent for quite a few months. I've done it with my girlfrien...How many girls you have helped and how many you have fucked. That percentage will tell the whole story. No one is saying not to help in the right situation. What most are saying is that don't be taken advantage of and do it blindly.
Spent few days in city of eternal spring in early Aug. Well, the city of spring was baking this time with daily temps above 30 degrees Celsius every day. New Life lineup was not so great (as usual), may be about 12-15 girls with just 2 worth 2nd looks. Zandalay was hopeless although they had about 8-10 girls. Sexy Amigas was much better but not as good as last year. About 8 girls, half were doable. Centro scene was decent as well, did not partake but found at least 2/3 girls that would meet my standard each time I visited. Parque Lieras was a bit down as well, the number of girls on Sat night was about 25-30 around 10 pm, however I did not see one girl that I would like to spend my time or money on. 65 for media hora at sexy amigas, 60 at new life plus some girls wanted 40 COPs for BBBJ and experencia novia which is double of what they wanted last year. The service quality was Okaish mostly except for one rotten apple at sexy amigas (daniella or stephenia?) who wanted to wrap up iin10 minutes and did not want to remove bra because she had some issue with her breasts. Not sure why the eff was she still working then. Avoid this woman.
Facebook chicas don't want less than 300 K now. Didn't try prepagos but I am thinking I need to increase the scope now. Medellin is becoming more expensive steadily and clearly, this was a damn expensive trip due to that stupid flower festival. And quality has slid in past 6 months.
A question for the experienced guys. Do you think there are better chances of finding some English speaking girls on seeking or facebook or among prepagos as compared to casas, centro and Parque Lieras?
It is an agency of the government of Colombia that locks phones that have not been properly registered in the country. The lock only applies when you are in Colombia, but to all the carriers there. And it is based on the phone itself, not any particular SIM (the IMEI). You have a couple of weeks or more to complete the registration, but if you do not register is by their deadline your phone will be blocked even if you have already left the country. In other words, you might have only been there for a week, but they send out a text message and if you do not respond the phone gets blocked anyway, which you find out the next time you visit the country and try to get a SIM from anyone.
And the resellers of SIMS might be perfectly good people, and that would be fine if your phone was already legally in the country, but until it is registered as a legal phone in the country by going through the process of registering it, you can buy SIM cards from whoever you want and they will not work once you have been blocked.This is exactly what my understanding and experience is, so far at least. Buying sim from a company owned store is not enough, one has to ask them to register the sim against your passport.
This is for Claro.
You need to go to an OFFICIAL Claro company store, such as the one inside the Andino Mall. You need your passport (or a copy), and the salesperson will register your passport with the SIM on their computer. Then you go to the cashier and pay for a package. It is then official.
Warning: if you go to an unofficial store or corner kiosk, and if you buy and use a SIM, it is not official. I had a bad experience once. I mistakenly thought a phone store was an official Claro office. The MFer salesperson lied to me; he BSed something like that the passports were invalid. He wanted to sell me his phones for sale with a preloaded SIM. I'm assuming it would have worked since he would have made a profit on the phone. I mistakenly bought a SIM from him (of course I was overcharged). I loaded it, but only Social Media worked. No minutes or data. I was told by Claro that the SIM was "unauthorized". Be careful if you go to an unofficial store.
It seems the SIM has to be registered to someone. Either your passport at the official Claro store, or a SIM from the street that is registered to a local; but that can be dangerous since that person can cancel / change.
Some people here are reporting that their phones gets locked when using an unauthorized SIM. Don't really understand that. Of course the phone company (such as Claro) can lock you out of their system, but can they lock your phone with ALL phone carriers, including inside the US? Don't know.
Either register your SIM legally, or get the SIM from a person you can trust 100%.
Note: you can get a legal SIM when you exit El Dorado Airport baggage area; it's right in front. But price is more than triple for maybe one third the data. It is priced in US dollars, so obviously it's a rip-off. But it might be worth the convenience for some.I wish we could obtain a list of official stores where one can register the sims. So far I have used movistar and claro stores in Unicentro. Both did NOT register the sims leading to my phones being blocked.
This time I bought movistar sim from a small shop but talked to someone who worked for movistar and got the sim / phone registered for just 3 USD! He also told me that it is possible to get the blocked phones unlocked but it costs like 10 USD and one needs to leave the phone with the guy who would get it unlocked for 2 days at least. Something I will try next time.
Meanwhile it will be good to know to have a list of official stores where one can buy SIMs and have them registered. Specially near Laureles.
I only have Facebook on my computer. Is there a way to use the app on my phone without it connecting my profile to all my contacts? Otherwise, to be safe, I think I'll just keep using it only on my computer. Thanks.If you have one Facebook account it is the same on computer or phone. Looks different, but all the same contacts, etc.
It is difficult and demanding work to maintain separate identities on facebook. The spyware and cookies are highly persistent and well hidden. Little by little, aided by our own inadvertent clicks on ads or "people you know" facebook merges accounts you control into a single behind the scenes backdoor into your contacts (including contacts who have never visited facebook or had a facebook account) and web activity until you begin to see the same ads, invitations, and invites across all your accounts. You have been warned.
If you have one Facebook account it is the same on computer or phone. Looks different, but all the same contacts, etc.
It does work 1 thousand dollars could pay the rent for quite a few months. I've done it with my girlfriend and I put her in beauty school in El Centro. She's working in the salon now. Everybody missed the point of what I said they thought I was telling him to be a Simp and throw money around. I'm just saying the narrative here is saving nine dollars for a taxi coming back from the airport taking two different buses and taking advantage of young girls because you think they are working girls and they need to be treated like that. Just give them the $75. I understand you want to think that they are with you because they like you that's fine get them there for that purpose, but give them the money anyway. I've been living here for 12 years so there's not too many people they were going to tell me how to run my life. And I'm not telling you how to spend your money but don't take advantage of these girls. Just because you can! Does anybody agree with that?You've been taking advantage of the girls for 12 years, but nobody else is supposed to do the same thing?
I'll explain. Your girlfriend, if you found her in the US would cost you $5,000 per month or more, assuming she's young and hot. However, your dollars buy a lot more in Colombia. It's the main reason all of us come here. In Colombia, even if we're giving each girl an extra $10, $20 or even $50 each time we're taking advantage of their economic situation to get much more at a price we can afford.
I don't save money by taking the bus from the airport. I usually rent a car (which I drove for 14 hours today). $1,000 has never changed my girlfriend's life. At best it would cover her rent for 3 months, not counting utilities. Sending most of the girls to cosmetic school wouldn't exactly change their lives. Ask her how many friends, relatives and neighbors did the same thing. You've given her the skills necessary to remain at a poverty level income for the rest of her life. Why do you think so many of the Facebook girls are also working in salons?
GeorgeCarta22
08-18-23, 07:34
I'm about to make a new random alias facebook profile. I didn't realize facebook and seeking were so popular. When I went to cartagena I just used tinder for the most part and that worked out sorta well.
For facebook are you just searching prepago facebook groups or are you just searching people within medellin?
Also so many reports now about how all the girls are being rated 6/10 and below at most of the establishments. Makes me feel like I should just go back to cartagena instead of visitng Medellin for the first time.
I wish we could obtain a list of official stores where one can register the sims. So far I have used movistar and claro stores in Unicentro. Both did NOT register the sims leading to my phones being blocked.
This time I bought movistar sim from a small shop but talked to someone who worked for movistar and For Claro: Those SMALL shops you see with a Claro sign are NOT official company stores. In the above example, if that person worked at that small store, he probably was not a official company employee. Those small stores might have official pay stations, but the phones and services that are there are not official.
The official Claro stores are huge and modern. Many employees, and they wear matching shirts. The store has all the new, modern phones. It should be obvious.
In the Bogota Andino Mall, I go the official company Claro store on the 2nd floor, and I give them a copy of my passport and ask for a SIM. Then they go to their computer, and they register it.
I was scammed once in Bogota. The small store had a Claro sign. It even had a Claro pay station, where the locals pay their bills. But the phone store that was part of that was not an official Claro store. From hindsight, it was obvious. The 2 people there wore different shirts with a Claro label. Didn't have the latest models. They had used phones for sale; I think this is the key giveaway. Official company owned Claro stores DO NOT SELL used phones. Store looked like a local phone store. The guy pretended to be a Claro employee. Should have seen thru his BS.
It is difficult and demanding work to maintain separate identities on facebook. The spyware and cookies are highly persistent and well hidden. Little by little, aided by our own inadvertent clicks on ads or "people you know" facebook merges accounts you control into a single behind the scenes backdoor into your contacts (including contacts who have never visited facebook or had a facebook account) and web activity until you begin to see the same ads, invitations, and invites across all your accounts. You have been warned.If you're worried about keeping your Facebook accounts completely separate (and you should be), there's only one way to do it.
Get a new, unlocked, prepaid phone. Register it in a different name. Use that phone only to access your alternate Facebook. Do not put anything on the phone that connects to any of your main accounts. Don't use any face pictures. Do not add any friends who are friends on your main account.
I only have Facebook on my computer. Is there a way to use the app on my phone without it connecting my profile to all my contacts? Otherwise, to be safe, I think I'll just keep using it only on my computer. Thanks.Open FB in incognito mode or private mode on the browser you use. Use m. faceboob.com unfortunately it will not allow you to use messenger. In order to use messenger if using an android phone press the 3 dots top right of the screen and click the box desktop site. Everything will be very small but you can zoom in and manage with difficulty.
Looking for phone store employees wearing uniforms is a very good tip, Thank you so much for it.
For Claro: Those SMALL shops you see with a Claro sign are NOT official company stores. In the above example, if that person worked at that small store, he probably was not a official company employee. Those small stores might have official pay stations, but the phones and services that are there are not official.
The official Claro stores are huge and modern. Many employees, and they wear matching shirts. The store has all the new, modern phones. It should be obvious.
In the Bogota Andino Mall, I go the official company Claro store on the 2nd floor, and I give them a copy of my passport and ask for a SIM. Then they go to their computer, and they register it.
I was scammed once in Bogota. The small store had a Claro sign. It even had a Claro pay station, where the locals pay their bills. But the phone store that was part of that was not an official Claro store. From hindsight, it was obvious. The 2 people there wore different shirts with a Claro label. Didn't have the latest models. They had used phones for sale; I think this is the key giveaway. Official company owned Claro stores DO NOT SELL used phones. Store looked like a local phone store. The guy pretended to be a Claro employee. Should have seen thru his BS.
Mono Sin Luz
08-18-23, 14:00
Disclaimer: this is a crosspost from the "Seeking Arrangement" forum, although I have made some editions.
Folks,
I'm heading to Medellin next week. I've been there before but had never used SA (seeking arrangement) there.
I am already in contact with a bunch of really hot chicks, but I have not talked money with anyone yet, I just have been filtering out pros because I'm looking for the civilian type.
My last sugar baby relationships date from before the pandemic, so I don't have a good reference in price. I think I read earlier here folks saying 500 K COP, which sounds super reasonable (to me, given the quality of the woman) but I want to get your opinion hopefully based on your current experience. What is a fair price these days for a really young and tight 20 y / o hottie?
I read elsewhere folks talking about 250-400 EUR for Wester Europe and I was just yesterday quoted $500 by a pretty hot 25 y / o in TX.
So for Medellin, would $100 be a good amount not to offend the girl right out the bat? $150?
Thanks in advance.
JohnnieCash
08-18-23, 14:00
It always amazes me how other guys like to try to tell us how to spend our money. I work to earn money. It is my money to spend. Why should I listen to you on how much I will pay a girl? I don't go around telling you how much you should pay and you shouldn't tell me how much I should pay. I don't even know you and you don't know me. Every monger is different and everyone has his own way of spending money and that is his right.It's just rude, bordering on offensive, that's what it is.
As for the poster living 12 y in Colombia, I guess that's happens to you naturally. You integrate into the local culture and eventually think it's OK to start just asking gringos for money.
JohnnieCash
08-18-23, 14:10
You've been taking advantage of the girls for 12 years, but nobody else is supposed to do the same thing?Heh yeah, seems like the OP have been "exploiting" them for a long time, had a change of heart and now trying to appease his own guilt on the forum, telling others how much of their own money they should spend.
$75 was it? Pease keep us posted on the exact guilt-free rates, I assume these have to be adjusted for inflation yearly.
Why should we all suffer for OPs mistakes? Not sure.
I think this mostly Medellin https://www.instagram.com/scopequeens/.
Also see https://www.facebook.com/groups/mdehallofshame.
This is exactly what my understanding and experience is, so far at least. Buying sim from a company owned store is not enough, one has to ask them to register the sim against your passport.
I wish we could obtain a list of official stores where one can register the sims. So far I have used movistar and claro stores in Unicentro. Both did NOT register the sims leading to my phones being blocked.
This time I bought movistar sim from a small shop but talked to someone who worked for movistar and got the sim / phone registered for just 3 USD! He also told me that it is possible to get the blocked phones unlocked but it costs like 10 USD and one needs to leave the phone with the guy who would get it unlocked for 2 days at least. Something I will try next time.
Meanwhile it will be good to know to have a list of official stores where one can buy SIMs and have them registered. Specially near Laureles.As Zeos1 and others have said, this has nothing to do with SIM cards. You register your device (by putting in its IMEI) not the SIM card. When you purchase a SIM card at an official store, you provide your passport to set up an account. But registering your phone is a different procedure.
It always amazes me how other guys like to try to tell us how to spend our money. I work to earn money. It is my money to spend. Why should I listen to you on how much I will pay a girl? I don't go around telling you how much you should pay and you shouldn't tell me how much I should pay. I don't even know you and you don't know me. Every monger is different and everyone has his own way of spending money and that is his right.All the guys who try to tell other guys how to spend their money are relatively poor guys. They mistakenly believe that if guys give the chicas more money it will cause chica inflation which would make their sexual activity unattainable. That is fallacious and would not affect their fellatio. 😄.
Mr Enternational
08-18-23, 17:11
one rotten apple at sexy amigas (daniella or stephenia?) who wanted to wrap up iin10 minutes and did not want to remove bra because she had some issue with her breasts. Not sure why the eff was she still working then. Avoid this woman.Maybe she just had some surgery done or she is on her period and her nipples are sore. She is still working for the same reason everyone else is: money.
Mr Enternational
08-18-23, 17:14
It is difficult and demanding work to maintain separate identities on facebook. The spyware and cookies are highly persistent and well hidden. Little by little, aided by our own inadvertent clicks on ads or "people you know" facebook merges accounts you control into a single behind the scenes backdoor into your contacts (including contacts who have never visited facebook or had a facebook account) and web activity until you begin to see the same ads, invitations, and invites across all your accounts. You have been warned.Use 2 different browsers and not the app.
JohnnieCash
08-18-23, 18:05
If you're worried about keeping your Facebook accounts completely separate (and you should be), there's only one way to do it.
Get a new, unlocked, prepaid phone. Register it in a different name. Use that phone only to access your alternate Facebook. Do not put anything on the phone that connects to any of your main accounts. Don't use any face pictures. Do not add any friends who are friends on your main account.And probably best not use the same wi-fi / network that you use to access your real account.
That would work. I can see you understand that use the burner "only" means you can't place or receive phone calls, you can't use anything except the phone's browser and the phone must be configured with an apple or android account used for nothing else. Also, you have to avoid using the same Internet connection as you use for your other devices. A VPN client on the phone (remember, it can't be the same VPN account you use on other devices) would prevent unintentionally revealing other devices that share the connection. Facebook is so insidious that any deviation from those practices will compromise your privacy.
If you're worried about keeping your Facebook accounts completely separate (and you should be), there's only one way to do it.
Get a new, unlocked, prepaid phone. Register it in a different name. Use that phone only to access your alternate Facebook. Do not put anything on the phone that connects to any of your main accounts. Don't use any face pictures. Do not add any friends who are friends on your main account.
As long as the SIM you buy is not already registered to someone else you can register it on the service provider's website or mobile app. Every time I get a new phone I have to do it. I'm grateful I don't have to deal with a phone shop. The SIM you buy should be in a sealed plastic envelope with the phone number and serial number on its label. You can buy cheap SIMs beneath the metro in Plaza Botero but you will have problems registering them.
This is exactly what my understanding and experience is, so far at least. Buying sim from a company owned store is not enough, one has to ask them to register the sim against your passport.
I wish we could obtain a list of official stores where one can register the sims. So far I have used movistar and claro stores in Unicentro. Both did NOT register the sims leading to my phones being blocked.
This time I bought movistar sim from a small shop but talked to someone who worked for movistar and got the sim / phone registered for just 3 USD! He also told me that it is possible to get the blocked phones unlocked but it costs like 10 USD and one needs to leave the phone with the guy who would get it unlocked for 2 days at least. Something I will try next time.
Meanwhile it will be good to know to have a list of official stores where one can buy SIMs and have them registered. Specially near Laureles.
That's not enough.
Open FB in incognito mode or private mode on the browser you use. Use m. faceboob.com unfortunately it will not allow you to use messenger. In order to use messenger if using an android phone press the 3 dots top right of the screen and click the box desktop site. Everything will be very small but you can zoom in and manage with difficulty.
As Zeos1 and others have said, this has nothing to do with SIM cards. You register your device (by putting in its IMEI) not the SIM card. When you purchase a SIM card at an official store, you provide your passport to set up an account. But registering your phone is a different procedure.I've always gone to the official Claro store at the Andino Mall, and purchased a SIM card with a copy of my passport, and then I've went to the cashier to pay for my load. Never had a problem afterwards. I don't think those Claro salespeople every registered my phone, since I didn't see them looking thru my phone to get the IMEI number. I believe Claro knows your IMEI number of your phone if you connect to their network.
Don't really understand how you register your phone. Never got a text from Claro asking for the IMEI number. Shouldn't it be automatic?
Although I haven't gotten a new SIM for a few years since it seems the SIM is still valid if you load it before 1 year expiration. I've never changed phones after I got the SIM. Maybe that's a way to test.
ColombiaLover
08-18-23, 22:52
I agree that beating them down is wrong (monetarily or physically). But that said, I don't see mongering as exploitation. We pay these girls much more than they could make with a regular job (that they are qualified to do, which isn't much). Some of the girls really need the money to pay rent, buy food, take care of the baby, etc. Other girls use it for surgeries and treatments and fake designer clothes and purses and shoes and drugs. That's their choice, although I prefer girls who need the money to take care of a family or get educated. Paying them way above what they are worth financially in Colombia, to me, is not exploitation. If anything, gringos are often "exploited" by the girls and others (taxis, etc.). I have a clear conscience because what would many of these girls do without us? The Colombian government is not going to take care of them and either is their deadbeat boyfriend of baby daddy. That said, I believe in paying a fair price. I'm not trying to talk them down below the low end of "market" but am also certainly not dumb enough to overpay (for all of the stupid reasons gringos overpay).
Yes I agree with you. I'm not going to be giving out $1,000 to them but it amazes me how cheap some mongers are. Going on and on about saving $9 on a cab ride and a few bucks on a phone plan. I was lucky enough to be born in the first world like most of these guys who like to nickel and dime girls born into poverty. Now I'm not throwing around dollars like an idiot making it rain and I do negotiate prices down but $25 is piss to me. Can't even buy a burger in a nice restaurant with that where I live. I take no joy in beating them down as far as possible and am convinced that for the type of girls I'm doing, SA and FB, that I get much better and longer dates with them. As much sex as I can muster and most of it BB without asking. They can't wait to come see me again. I take no joy in exploiting people from poor countries. No woman likes a cheap man. OK all the cheapskate trolls can attack now.
Mono Sin Luz
08-18-23, 23:02
I think this mostly Medellin https://www.instagram.com/scopequeens/.
Also see https://www.facebook.com/groups/mdehallofshame.The Facebook link is not working for me.
That is exactly right. You can put the punter phone behind a VPN session to keep facebook's algorithms away from other devices on your Internet connection.
And probably best not use the same wi-fi / network that you use to access your real account.
Mr Enternational
08-19-23, 04:03
I have a clear conscience because what would many of these girls do without us?The same thing they did during covid without you. As far as I know they all made it through and nobody perished due to not having gringos around to exploit them.
I definitely would not start at $150 or $100 and never negotiate in dollars. You have to remember a lot of "seeking" girls are full time prepagos in disguise. Why would you pay more just because her profile is on seeking? You will find the same girls on FB, tinder, lleras and even centro (rarely). So it makes no sense to wine and dine a girl who's a full time pro.
Of course it depends on how much time you are expecting them to spend etc. For newbies I would avoid seeking and stick to casa, clubs, tinder etc but remember to always give your price and not ask them theirs. Negotiate in pesos and start low 200 mil plus taxi is usual starting rate for outcall.
Disclaimer: this is a crosspost from the "Seeking Arrangement" forum, although I have made some editions.
Folks,
I'm heading to Medellin next week. I've been there before but had never used SA (seeking arrangement) there.
I am already in contact with a bunch of really hot chicks, but I have not talked money with anyone yet, I just have been filtering out pros because I'm looking for the civilian type.
My last sugar baby relationships date from before the pandemic, so I don't have a good reference in price. I think I read earlier here folks saying 500 K COP, which sounds super reasonable (to me, given the quality of the woman) but I want to get your opinion hopefully based on your current experience. What is a fair price these days for a really young and tight 20 y / o hottie?
I read elsewhere folks talking about 250-400 EUR for Wester Europe and I was just yesterday quoted $500 by a pretty hot 25 y / o in TX.
So for Medellin, would $100 be a good amount not to offend the girl right out the bat? $150?
Thanks in advance.
Use 2 different browsers and not the app.This is the best answer. It will be better if this browser is only used for facebook only. While we are on this topic. ISG uses Google service so Google probably knows the activities of those visitors who use google too. haha.
Elvis 2008
08-19-23, 15:43
Everybody's butt hurt especially the passport bros they think I'm handing out hundred dollar bills and they're insulted because they are cheapskates. That's why they take it personal I'm saying $1000 will change their life I would never give them $1000. How about 50 or $75 instead of using there Naked photos as a trophy cheapskates .QR, I do not think it is the passport bros. Those are guys who work in the USA, have money, and visit abroad. The guys fighting you on this IMO are the guys living on a fixed income and are always threatened when others come in and pay without consideration for their budgets.
As far as giving women a $1000 and changing their lives, the guys from Freakonomics actually took on something similar to it. Back in the early days of the USA, the state of Georgia had this deal where one in five of its residents received via lottery a chance at some serious land / money. When the matter was studied, what was found was a one time infusion of cash did very little to change the fate of said people.
That said, what you are talking about is an investible woman, one you give $1000, and she spends on garnering a skill and uses it to make way more than $1000 and is actually appreciative of you for doing so. That is really rare because such a woman probably would have made it on her own without you. Out of the hundreds of women I have met mongering over the last decade, there were only four I considered investible or my preferred term is wife / GF material. Most women will waste the $1000 on something stupid and then hit you up shortly thereafter for more money.
That is the problem with prostitution and the quick buck. The quick buck goes out as fast as it goes in.
The same capability that facebook uses to mine your contacts who have never had facebook accounts allow it to mine your browsing history on browsers you never use to access facebook, cross reference your device's registry keys, and take advantage of bookmark syncing features some uses don't even know are active. At a minimum you must use a single purpose device for punter activity on facebook. Then you also have to be scrupulous about which friend requests, contacts, and even likes (you should not like anything from a punter account) to control (as distinct from prevent) facebook linking your punter account to other apps (including facebook), services, and contacts you maintain in real life. Tiktok, tinder, facebook and the other social apps spend billions to confuse users into thinking it's quick and easy to isolate their accounts. You have been warned, I won't insist.
This is the best answer. It will be better if this browser is only used for facebook only. While we are on this topic. ISG uses Google service so Google probably knows the activities of those visitors who use google too. haha.
QR, I do not think it is the passport bros. Those are guys who work in the USA, have money, and visit abroad. The guys fighting you on this IMO are the guys living on a fixed income and are always threatened when others come in and pay without consideration for their budgets.
As far as giving women a $1000 and changing their lives, the guys from Freakonomics actually took on something similar to it. Back in the early days of the USA, the state of Georgia had this deal where one in five of its residents received via lottery a chance at some serious land / money. When the matter was studied, what was found was a one time infusion of cash did very little to change the fate of said people.
That said, what you are talking about is an investible woman, one you give $1000, and she spends on garnering a skill and uses it to make way more than $1000 and is actually appreciative of you for doing so. That is really rare because such a woman probably would have made it on her own without you. Out of the hundreds of women I have met mongering over the last decade, there were only four I considered investible or my preferred term is wife / GF material. Most women will waste the $1000 on something stupid and then hit you up shortly thereafter for more money.
That is the problem with prostitution and the quick buck. The quick buck goes out as fast as it goes in.I agree with you and once again, I never suggested giving them $1000. It was a number that came to my head. I said that it could change their lives and everybody got butt hurt. I they thought I was implying I throw money around like some kind of Simp. Like I said earlier, I did help somebody I make over six figures and I slowly gave her money because I'm fully aware they are going to spend it instantly. Helping a girl get braces for her crooked teeth buying a iPad for their children. These little things change their life. It's much cheaper than having a girlfriend or a wife in the United States. I think everybody agrees that I was just suggesting that some people do exploit them and try to give them the boyfriend experience to save money. One thing I know, for sure is you could not expect a positive outcome just accept whatever the outcome is and have no expectations and you won't be disappointed. I believe any girl that's doing this to multiple people or is still in the. P4 p game really doesn't deserve anyone's money. Next time I will "quote the author of the post. So, as not to offend the guys with fixed incomes that are living there. Thanks for the positive response.
ColombiaLover
08-20-23, 04:45
There were still several gringos in MDE during COVID, whether those who lived there full time or who got "stuck" there. And the, according to a few chicas I know well, were the gringo clients who felt bad for the chicas and sent them a little money for food. I admit I sent 100 mil to one chica that I used to see regularly. So even during COVID, many still relied on gringos. I will say again, I have a very clear conscience. I see no exploitation as a previous poster suggested.
The same thing they did during covid without you. As far as I know they all made it through and nobody perished due to not having gringos around to exploit them.
This is the best answer. It will be better if this browser is only used for facebook only. While we are on this topic. ISG uses Google service so Google probably knows the activities of those visitors who use google too. haha.Thanks guys, that is what my gut was telling me. I will not use the facebook app on my phone, and just get girls what's app if I want to contact them later. Thanks again.
...I will not use the facebook app on my phone, and just get girls what's app if I want to contact them later. Thanks again.However you can have a burner that you use only for mongering. You can have the app on this phone as long as you treat the phone as a sandbox. You can use this phone connected to any WiFi, for example: Starbucks, I am confident that none of the other customers see info related to your activity and you won't see theirs. If you agree, and think it logically, you can use it almost everywhere. hehe.
...That said, what you are talking about is an investible woman, one you give $1000...I don't know about the whole context of the situation the OP is in. This is what I would do in my own situation.
If it is started with P4 P, I would tell the girl to come frequently enough so she can make USD $ 1000/ month. This way she can make more money and not less. If the girl is worthwhile, she can use the money wisely. I would even tell her to put other customers ahead of me schedule-wise because I want her to diversify and have more job opportunities.
If it is not P4 P, I would just give her money for free and not have sexual relationship with her for free.
There are more scenarios that I can come up with but the above are the basic ideas.
There were still several gringos in MDE during COVID, whether those who lived there full time or who got "stuck" there. And the, according to a few chicas I know well, were the gringo clients who felt bad for the chicas and sent them a little money for food. I admit I sent 100 mil to one chica that I used to see regularly. So even during COVID, many still relied on gringos. I will say again, I have a very clear conscience. I see no exploitation as a previous poster suggested.It's not exploitation, but compassion.
Nothing wrong helping out regulars, especially during the eight months the Country was shut down during the Pandemic.
I am going to Medellin for 5 days and was very interested in recent intel on this location. It appears to be one of the top places for quality. I have been to many FKK's in Europe, is this similar? Not much information online and no website.
Any intel on prices and extras?
Cost to taxi from Poblado?
Do they serve food and drinks?
Options for 2 girls??
Thanks in advance.
It always amazes me how other guys like to try to tell us how to spend our money. I work to earn money. It is my money to spend. Why should I listen to you on how much I will pay a girl? I don't go around telling you how much you should pay and you shouldn't tell me how much I should pay. I don't even know you and you don't know me. Every monger is different and everyone has his own way of spending money and that is his right.Pricing always has been and always will be discussed here. It will never be shut down. No one is trying to take away your "rights" so simply bypass the suggestions and advice, make it rain, spend more than is necessary in given markets or whatever you like. We all know it is your money to spend.
All the guys who try to tell other guys how to spend their money are relatively poor guys. They mistakenly believe that if guys give the chicas more money it will cause chica inflation which would make their sexual activity unattainable. That is fallacious and would not affect their fellatio. 😄.Actually a lot of comfortable and otherwise wealthy people like to get a good value for their buck as it often goes with the territory. It's how they got rich. Show offs and braggarts usually have less means though there are exceptions to all rules. And yes, consumer behavior effects markets. Though spending habits in El Poblado likely will have little effect on pricing in Centro.
P.S. Pricing in a community like this is always going to be a popular topic. Might as well get used to it.
It's worth mentioning that only a small minority of girls here rely mostly on gringos as customers. Among that small minority are girls who work Parque Lleras / Provenza, the Mansion, and certain facebook girls. The large majority of girls in the game rely mostly on Colombian customers. I remember during the early days of the pandemic the casas started to bar foreigners. I got a exemption at the places I visited regularly until they started to shut down altogether. Among casas I think New Life might be an exception where girls could specialize in foreigners.
The same thing they did during covid without you. As far as I know they all made it through and nobody perished due to not having gringos around to exploit them.
Mr Enternational
08-20-23, 22:51
I don't know about the whole context of the situation the OP is in. This is what I would do in my own situation.
If it is started with P4 P, I would tell the girl to come frequently enough so she can make USD $ 1000/ month. This way she can make more money and not less.Damn. You guys do not get tired of fucking the same hooker like that? I am in it for the strange, not the familiar. I could never fuck the same hooker $1000 worth of times.
I am going to Medellin for 5 days and was very interested in recent intel on this location. It appears to be one of the top places for quality. I have been to many FKK's in Europe, is this similar? Not much information online and no website.
Any intel on prices and extras?
Cost to taxi from Poblado?
Do they serve food and drinks?
Options for 2 girls??
Thanks in advance.It's a silicone convention. If that's your thing you'll be happier than a pig in mud.
Lucky Nuts
08-21-23, 05:57
I am going to Medellin for 5 days and was very interested in recent intel on this location. It appears to be one of the top places for quality. I have been to many FKK's in Europe, is this similar? Not much information online and no website.
Any intel on prices and extras?
Cost to taxi from Poblado?
Do they serve food and drinks?
Options for 2 girls??
Thanks in advance.No it's not similar to the FKKs. The chicas don't mingle out front. They come out from the back and make an introduction. It's just a brothel set up in a big old grand building that may or may not have an interesting history. I've visited a few times without taking a session and my recollection is full figured 30 ish (year old) ladies. So if that's your target you might have some luck there.
Taxi ride cost: All taxi rides are relatively cheap in Medellin. Don't worry about the taxi cost.
Food and drinks? Drinks of course. I remember they do serve popcorn jaja. My friends visited (and sessioned) and ordered food which was probably delivered in from a nearby restaurant. Very good they said.
Prices and Options for 2 girls: It's a brothel. Bring your money and tell them what you want. It's probably about a hundred dollars worth of pesos per chica per 45 mintues for standard service (covered everything and no kissing) is my best guess. Let me repeat that just an estimate or guess based on prices my last visit a couple years ago.
If you're looking for more of a place like FKKs where the chicas hang out close to the customers try the brothels Zandaly and Chicas Sexi Amigas and sit at their bars. Or try the el centro bars across the street from Parque Botero. Coneitas and Bar Grille Nuevo.
I don't know about the whole context of the situation the OP is in. This is what I would do in my own situation.
If it is started with P4 P, I would tell the girl to come frequently enough so she can make USD $ 1000/ month. This way she can make more money and not less. If the girl is worthwhile, she can use the money wisely. I would even tell her to put other customers ahead of me schedule-wise because I want her to diversify and have more job opportunities.
If it is not P4 P, I would just give her money for free and not have sexual relationship with her for free.
There are more scenarios that I can come up with but the above are the basic ideas.Absolutely nobody knows the context of what I said. They just saw the $1000 and assumed that I was telling people to give $1000 to prostitutes and that's about it. It took off from there and it became something very toxic. All of the cheapskates came out and made their case. They started quoting smaller and smaller parts of my post and those took off on individual rants. It was pretty hilarious. Doesn't bother me a bit. I stand behind what I said for days ago look it up.
It's worth mentioning that only a small minority of girls here rely mostly on gringos as customers. Among that small minority are girls who work Parque Lleras / Provenza, the Mansion, and certain facebook girls. The large majority of girls in the game rely mostly on Colombian customers. I remember during the early days of the pandemic the casas started to bar foreigners. I got a exemption at the places I visited regularly until they started to shut down altogether. Among casas I think New Life might be an exception where girls could specialize in foreigners.Even at New Life I'm guessing it is 95% local business. Most of the times I've been there it was all locals, and the lunchtime traffic in particular. Guys working in the area take an hour for lunch and nothing better than 30 min at New Life and then a lunch special nearby for 5 dollars. So for equivalent of under 20 dollars lunch and sex.
Told her I wanted drinks, she says sex and massage first. Seems miserable and just wants to get paid. What you guys think, is it worth it?
I am going to Medellin for 5 days and was very interested in recent intel on this location. It appears to be one of the top places for quality. I have been to many FKK's in Europe, is this similar? Not much information online and no website.
Any intel on prices and extras?
Cost to taxi from Poblado?
Do they serve food and drinks?
Options for 2 girls??
Thanks in advance.There's nothing in MDE like the FKKs. If you go in expecting to find that, you'll be very disappointed.
YounGun3393
08-22-23, 08:24
Even at New Life I'm guessing it is 95% local business. Most of the times I've been there it was all locals, and the lunchtime traffic in particular. Guys working in the area take an hour for lunch and nothing better than 30 min at New Life and then a lunch special nearby for 5 dollars. So for equivalent of under 20 dollars lunch and sex.Wait I thought new life was a massage spot. Same for Zandaly and Chicas Sexi Amigas.
Absolutely nobody knows the context of what I said. They just saw the $1000 and assumed that I was telling people to give $1000 to prostitutes and that's about it. It took off from there and it became something very toxic. All of the cheapskates came out and made their case. They started quoting smaller and smaller parts of my post and those took off on individual rants. It was pretty hilarious. Doesn't bother me a bit. I stand behind what I said for days ago look it up.I think it's the opposite, what's the point of being on this site let alone mongering in Medellin if you're just going to pay them more than what they asked for. The responses to your report by other members were spot-on. If we hustled like your claiming, we would be no better and just as broke as the Chicas we're patronizing. It's exactly right that most of them have no financial sense and would be broke the next day no matter how much that's given to them. The prices we pay or not pay is the reason majority of travel or live in Medellin. I mean, if you have a missionary mindset, I'm sure there's plenty of other sites and agency's that handle that. I going to continue to bargain sensibly for what was, is or how much longer these prices remain.
Wait I thought new life was a massage spot. Same for Zandaly and Chicas Sexi Amigas.They are brothels. Massage is optional.
ElSexoChino7
08-22-23, 13:42
I'll be visiting back my favorite city this October or November. I'm trying to use the Facebook option for girls and already created alternative profile only for FB girls. Which Facebook search groups should I start with? Names? Any recommendations will be appreciated and of course I will leave a spicy feedback after my visit.
Flew in from Cartagena to EOH. 5 minute cab ride to my AirBnb on Calle 10 A. Recommend EOH to avoid the long drive from MED / Rio Negro. My AirBnb was 1 block from Parque Lleras but Calle 10 A is a super busy street all day and night with no crosswalk so it can take a while to cross the street. No security desk so I was able to bring as many girls at any time.
Not many girls during the day time in the park but there were usually at least a couple girls working. 200 k to 350 k for 1 hour. Police check points controlling access to the park most of the day and night. So in the park was very safe. Around the park was pretty safe also. Soul Spa on Calle 10 offered HJ only for 50 k on top of the 100 k for a 1 hour massage. Spa M and Sixth Sense Spa offered 1 hour FS for 170 k. Used Mileroticos and photosaccompantes to call girls to my Airbnb. 200 k to 350 k for 1 hour. Their incall rates were 100 k to 250 k for 1 hour. At night the park has 50 to 200 girls around the park and in the clubs. Girls start showing up around 8 pm. 1 am the girls in the club start checking outside for guys. You can sit across from any of the clubs to see the girls going in and out. Most of the clubs had no cover. A couple had a 10 k cover on the weekend. You can also hang out near SupahShooter and see all the girls getting dropped off for Gustos and catch them before anyone else. Gustos mostly had milfs between 30 and 40 yo. Not really my thing. I usually picked up the 20 yo in and around the park. If the girl is in the park, she went thru a TSA like security check so she probably doesn't have drugs or weapons. I say probably because I did see some girls doing bumps before going into Gustos so they do sneak it in or buy it from someone in the Park. Picked up 20 light skinned skinny morenas and 5 paisas. 1 girl offered me drugs, I passed. She also tried to steal my portable phone battery but I made her empty her purse and she gave it back. Later I noticed she stole my face wash and my generic replacement sonicare tooth brush head but not the actual brush. So watch out. They'll take anything they can.
Checked out Fase II on Friday night. 30 girls, again mostly milfs. But for the price of a drink or a couple 2 k notes, the girls will give you lapdances and HJ teases. There was also a 4 girl lesbian sex show with dildos around midnight. 30 k or 50 k entrance. (Can't remember) When you buy a drink they give you change in a stack of 2 k notes because each girl will come by to collect tips from every customer after they dance on stage. Not sure about prices but there's a hotel next door if you find a girl you like.
Also went to Loutron. 10 milfs. A couple skinny girls the rest were naturally curvy or had fake boobs and butts. There's an entrance fee of 120 k. I think the price for 1 hour was 200 k to 300 k. It's a long drive up and back so I probably won't go again.
Great weather, okay food, and easy access to sexy morenas at the park.
Medclubber
08-22-23, 16:22
It's a silicone convention. If that's your thing you'll be happier than a pig in mud.Nah, not sure I agree. I love silicone but there are quite a few chica's without silicone there. The lineup varies greatly though, I've had times when there were literally only 2 girls available and times when there were at least 20. I'd say average amount of available girls is around 10. Also the level of service greatly varies among the chica's there.
If you want more, high quality girls to choose from, La Isla definitely is the right choice. Even though the price is kind of insane now, 550 k, there are some real hotties out there.
Told her I wanted drinks, she says sex and massage first. Seems miserable and just wants to get paid. What you guys think, is it worth it?Don't know the girl so I can tell you if it is "worth it" but she is asking almost 3 times the norm for a really delicious hot girl. You obviously don't know Spanish and your translator app, while giving literal translations, tells her she is dealing with a Gringo.
One other piece of (I'm sure unwanted) advice. Drinking with girls maybe something you think is fun but it is the way to get yourself drugged and robbed. If you need the name of some of the bars where Gringos congregate, I'm sure we can give you a few. Drink with other Gringos or by yourself. It is a lot safer.
Even at New Life I'm guessing it is 95% local business. Most of the times I've been there it was all locals, and the lunchtime traffic in particular. Guys working in the area take an hour for lunch and nothing better than 30 min at New Life and then a lunch special nearby for 5 dollars. So for equivalent of under 20 dollars lunch and sex.Agree. God help you if you go on pay day. Colombians in many jobs are paid 1 x a month, and the day often falls on the last Thursday or working day of the month. I went to New Life on that day once years ago and there were 30+ girls and a similar number of guys. Standing room only. The intro line never stopped!
Disclaimer: this is a crosspost from the "Seeking Arrangement" forum, although I have made some editions.
Folks,I'm heading to Medellin next week. I've been there before but had never used SA (seeking arrangement) there.
I am already in contact with a bunch of really hot chicks, but I have not talked money with anyone yet, I just have been filtering out pros because I'm looking for the civilian type.
My last sugar baby relationships date from before the pandemic, so I don't have a good reference in price. I think I read earlier here folks saying 500 K COP, which sounds super reasonable (to me, given the quality of the woman) but I want to get your opinion hopefully based on your current experience. What is a fair price these days for a really young and tight 20 y / o hottie?
I read elsewhere folks talking about 250-400 EUR for Wester Europe and I was just yesterday quoted $500 by a pretty hot 25 y / o in TX.
So for Medellin, would $100 be a good amount not to offend the girl right out the bat? $150?
Thanks in advance.First, some guys will say that you'll see the same Seeking girls at Lleras, on Tinder, or in the centro casas. I personally have not found that to be the case. Overall the girls have been of higher quality in terms of looks, personality / intelligence (many with degrees), and in some ways performance.
In terms of price, the last time I used it in MDE was 1-2 years ago and I was doing 300 k to 500 k depending on time (usually 1. 5 to 3 hours). Average was around 350/400 k.
-Chicago.
Mr Enternational
08-22-23, 21:19
Told her I wanted drinks, she says sex and massage first. Seems miserable and just wants to get paid. What you guys think, is it worth it?What do you go to work for? If it is for more than to get paid then you are in the minority. Why do guys always complain when the hooker knows what she is there for? Are you looking for someone to fuck or a drinking buddy?
Me and Trip went to a brothel in Cali where they do the lineup the same as New Life. I asked the guy why do the girls go away so fast. He said you foreigners always come with this shit. These girls are here to be fucked. You look at them and decide who you want then you go fuck them. You don't try to make girlfriends out of the hookers. The chick flat out said you give me money and I give you a massage and pussy. Where is the problem other than the 800,000 peso ripoff price? The Colombian philosophy is that you get to know and wine and dine girlfriends; you fuck hookers.
what you guys think, is it worth it?Looks no better than a ton of girls I give 50 k to, but only you can decide if she's worth it. To you.
Told her I wanted drinks, she says sex and massage first. Seems miserable and just wants to get paid. What you guys think, is it worth it?Run Forrest Run LOL.
Mr Enternational
08-22-23, 22:11
I think it's the opposite, what's the point of being on this site let alone mongering in Medellin if you're just going to pay them more than what they asked for. The responses to your report by other members were spot-on. If we hustled like your claiming, we would be no better and just as broke as the Chicas we're patronizing. It's exactly right that most of them have no financial sense and would be broke the next day no matter how much that's given to them. The prices we pay or not pay is the reason majority of travel or live in Medellin. I mean, if you have a missionary mindset, I'm sure there's plenty of other sites and agency's that handle that. I going to continue to bargain sensibly for what was, is or how much longer these prices remain.Defintiely hustling backwards. Why are most guys on here traveling to get laid? Because it worked out so well back home that chicks get money so they would not have to fuck your sorry ass anymore. Guys do it to themselves. Let's find a chick that has no money so she will fuck us for money, then give her so much money so she will no longer need to fuck us (or at least the us that are not going to pay way more than should be paid). That is a simp mentality. Versus Pretty Tony's pimp mentality where you make sure they stay broke so they will always need you.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gaj-7BroWNY&pp=ygUbdGhlIG1hY2sga2VlcCBhIGJpdGNoIGJyb2tl
I believe it is all in the eye of the beholder. For some, Seeking Arrangement is the blessed gateway to women of unimaginable and otherwise unattainable beauty and charm. For others, SA stands for "Simping Arrangement. " The important bit is that the guy feels fulfilled and satisfied.
First, some guys will say that you'll see the same Seeking girls at Lleras, on Tinder, or in the centro casas. I personally have not found that to be the case. Overall the girls have been of higher quality in terms of looks, personality / intelligence (many with degrees), and in some ways performance.
In terms of price, the last time I used it in MDE was 1-2 years ago and I was doing 300 k to 500 k depending on time (usually 1. 5 to 3 hours). Average was around 350/400 k.
-Chicago.
StudPlayer
08-22-23, 22:26
Totally agree with TK. 100 K pesos is ok too.
Remember this is Medellin.
Girls like her go for usd $20 or 30 for an hour or two of sexual and massage service.
All the tourist incels are screwing it all up.
Correction: All the tourist incels have screwed it all up.
The chicas are for sex and massage not for taking out on dates in public.
If you take them out in public you will be laughed at.
Looks no better than a ton of girls I give 50 k to, but only you can decide if she's worth it. To you.$12? That's a steal. Cheapest I've done is a girl in Brazil that liked me and didn't want me to pay the bar fine so she told me wait outside for her across the street, she got her things and ran out to come meet me and called a Uber for us. Only wanted $30 from me spent the whole night and morning together.
Told her I wanted drinks, she says sex and massage first. Seems miserable and just wants to get paid. What you guys think, is it worth it?Tell her 50 mil más la pieza and she meets up with you in plaza botero. If not she can kick rocks. Also wtf would you want to go out for drinks, that's a waste of time and money and a good way to get drugged and robbed.
Also your spanish looks fake as hell I know those weren't your words lmao.
Anyways if you pay 800 mil I feel sorry for you.
I'll be visiting back my favorite city this October or November. I'm trying to use the Facebook option for girls and already created alternative profile only for FB girls. Which Facebook search groups should I start with? Names? Any recommendations will be appreciated and of course I will leave a spicy feedback after my visit.This is where I started. I went to Diviniwomen Medellin Go through the friends lists of the guys who are friends in this list. Start friending the women that you like just not to many per day (not sure the number for the algorithms). When someone accepts your friend request send them a message to say Hello,. (don't send out too many messages per day) Go through their friends list, repeat. Or search for the name Maria or any other common name and start sending out friend requests. Next thing you know you will have over a thousand friends and you will be getting friend requests from them.
Mono Sin Luz
08-23-23, 13:05
First, some guys will say that you'll see the same Seeking girls at Lleras, on Tinder, or in the centro casas. I personally have not found that to be the case. Overall the girls have been of higher quality in terms of looks, personality / intelligence (many with degrees), and in some ways performance.
In terms of price, the last time I used it in MDE was 1-2 years ago and I was doing 300 k to 500 k depending on time (usually 1. 5 to 3 hours). Average was around 350/400 k.
-Chicago.Agreed on quality. I mean, it may be true that you can find some of the woman in SA in Parque Leras, Tinder, Facebook, etc. However, there is a subset of chicks that at least to my knowledge are only found in places like SA.
Basically civilians that want to have fun, get some money for whatever the fuck they want the money, but they are not fucking every dude that crosses their path, so that made them like a true girlfriend (perfect -- no drama).
As far as price, some are charging crazy amounts ($300), and they are fucking hot woman, but the competition is so high that you don't have to do that.
I've been able so far to get some for 400 k, 500 k and one really hot one for a multi hour session for 800 k.
I won't even go to an ATM on or near pay day. It's brutal.
Agree. God help you if you go on pay day. Colombians in many jobs are paid 1 x a month, and the day often falls on the last Thursday or working day of the month. I went to New Life on that day once years ago and there were 30+ girls and a similar number of guys. Standing room only. The intro line never stopped!
Told her I wanted drinks, she says sex and massage first. Seems miserable and just wants to get paid. What you guys think, is it worth it?Chances are she's not a scoper.
Medclubber
08-23-23, 15:39
Agreed on quality. I mean, it may be true that you can find some of the woman in SA in Parque Leras, Tinder, Facebook, etc. However, there is a subset of chicks that at least to my knowledge are only found in places like SA.
Basically civilians that want to have fun, get some money for whatever the fuck they want the money, but they are not fucking every dude that crosses their path, so that made them like a true girlfriend (perfect -- no drama).
As far as price, some are charging crazy amounts ($300), and they are fucking hot woman, but the competition is so high that you don't have to do that.
I've been able so far to get some for 400 k, 500 k and one really hot one for a multi hour session for 800 k.Actually, last week I did the hottest girl ever in my mongering career LOL. At la Isla. Definitely a 9.5 in my book, maybe even a 10 because I've never seen a hotter working girl than her. A girl I'd never seen there before, although she told me she's been working there for a year now, but she doesn't work all days. I asked, what do you do then those other days, you work at Lleras? She looked at me like I was crazy "NO WAY", she said she felt that was way too dangerous. What she did on her off days was visit her regular customers at their homes. But she felt working on the street wasn't a good risk / reward situation for her. I think this was an interesting notition. Girls like her love La Isla because it's safe and they make good, probably better money there than in the streets anyway. Why take the risk going with some random stranger they meet in Lleras.
Wait I thought new life was a massage spot. Same for Zandaly and Chicas Sexi Amigas.No. They are casas. Brothels. Energy (Spa Fantasias Energy) tries to pass itself off as a massage spa, but it's still a casa.
Totally agree with TK. 100 K pesos is ok too.
Remember this is Medellin.
Girls like her go for usd $20 or 30 for an hour or two of sexual and massage service.
All the tourist incels are screwing it all up.
Correction: All the tourist incels have screwed it all up.
The chicas are for sex and massage not for taking out on dates in public.
If you take them out in public you will be laughed at.You're partially right. Although almost none of them are for massage, unless they work in an actual massage spa. That is, if you've ever experienced a professional, licensed, clinical massage.
I've been taking Medellin girls out for dates for years, some are just friends, some are non-pros, some are working girls. Never been laughed at. Only rarely have I gotten any nasty looks, and most of those were just glances. I've been to many restaurants, theaters, bars, even strip clubs with the girls. Everyone just takes it in stride.
Whether you just want a quick 20 minute, in and out, or you want to wine and dine and wife up, find what works for your budget and your satisfaction.
Mono Sin Luz
08-23-23, 18:37
Folks,
I have a bit of a cash flow issue due to some timing issues moving money and withdrawing before I flew into Medellin.
My debit card limit has a pretty low limit for withdrawals ($300) and I want to get around $3000.
What is the most effective way to send that money from US to Colombia? PayPal? Western Union?
Thanks in advance.
Agreed on quality. I mean, it may be true that you can find some of the woman in SA in Parque Leras, Tinder, Facebook, etc. However, there is a subset of chicks that at least to my knowledge are only found in places like SA.
Basically civilians that want to have fun, get some money for whatever the fuck they want the money, but they are not fucking every dude that crosses their path, so that made them like a true girlfriend (perfect -- no drama).
As far as price, some are charging crazy amounts ($300), and they are fucking hot woman, but the competition is so high that you don't have to do that.
I've been able so far to get some for 400 k, 500 k and one really hot one for a multi hour session for 800 k.Yes, that makes sense. I expect prices have gone up decently post Covid and almost 2 years since I had those prices.
Mr Enternational
08-23-23, 22:21
$12? That's a steal.That is not a steal. That is just how much it costs. It is pussy. Half of the planet has one.
Cheapest I've done is a girl in Brazil that liked me and didn't want me to pay the bar fine so she told me wait outside for her across the street, she got her things and ran out to come meet me and called a Uber for us. Only wanted $30 from me spent the whole night and morning together.That was like the normal price for chicks from Help back in the day in Rio. Also the places downtown in Rio used to be 1 real per minute. In those days it was 4 reais to $1. So 25 cent per minute. $5 for 20 minutes. Other than that there were the $6 places in Ecuador. You have to figure the locals are not making that much money so the prices are aligned with them. Only in places that foreign guys frequent do the prices get jacked up out of proportion.
Agreed on quality. I mean, it may be true that you can find some of the woman in SA in Parque Leras, Tinder, Facebook, etc. However, there is a subset of chicks that at least to my knowledge are only found in places like SA.
Basically civilians that want to have fun, get some money for whatever the fuck they want the money, but they are not fucking every dude that crosses their path, so that made them like a true girlfriend (perfect -- no drama).
As far as price, some are charging crazy amounts ($300), and they are fucking hot woman, but the competition is so high that you don't have to do that.
I've been able so far to get some for 400 k, 500 k and one really hot one for a multi hour session for 800 k.I could sell you an airport and you would go for it. Seeking is filled with working girls who yes are fucking every dude with enough money to pay them. Think about it, you messaged them, talked them up and agreed on a price. You didn't discover the theory of gravity or gold. You are one of the many dates they have scheduled. Yes some of these girls can be found in other venues, I've personally seen girls from Lleras, tinder and FB on seeking. I also wouldn't negotiate multi hours unless it's a repeat and you can confirm worthiness. Looking for potential GF on seeking is bound for drama. These girls will sell you a dream and an airport.
And this is what a mean by the local economic ecosystem.
Remember, these hoes belong to the street. Fuck why'all doing spending $1000 US! Slap you when I see you! LOL.
That is not a steal. That is just how much it costs. It is pussy. Half of the planet has one.
That was like the normal price for chicks from Help back in the day in Rio. Also the places downtown in Rio used to be 1 real per minute. In those days it was 4 reais to $1. So 25 cent per minute. $5 for 20 minutes. Other than that there were the $6 places in Ecuador. You have to figure the locals are not making that much money so the prices are aligned with them. Only in places that foreign guys frequent do the prices get jacked up out of proportion.
Have someone send you money through Western Union and pick it up from éxito.
Folks,
I have a bit of a cash flow issue due to some timing issues moving money and withdrawing before I flew into Medellin.
My debit card limit has a pretty low limit for withdrawals ($300) and I want to get around $3000.
What is the most effective way to send that money from US to Colombia? PayPal? Western Union?
Thanks in advance.
Mr Enternational
08-24-23, 14:58
My debit card limit has a pretty low limit for withdrawals ($300) and I want to get around $3000.Call your bank and have then raise it.
That is not a steal. That is just how much it costs. It is pussy. Half of the planet has one.
That was like the normal price for chicks from Help back in the day in Rio. Also the places downtown in Rio used to be 1 real per minute. In those days it was 4 reais to $1. So 25 cent per minute. $5 for 20 minutes. Other than that there were the $6 places in Ecuador. You have to figure the locals are not making that much money so the prices are aligned with them. Only in places that foreign guys frequent do the prices get jacked up out of proportion.Half of New York got pussy. Half of Chicago, Miami or LA got pussy. However we don't see $12 rates, not even close. Even if you use PPP / Big Mac index to compare rates, the difference can't be justified.
Totally agree with TK. 100 K pesos is ok too.
Remember this is Medellin.
Girls like her go for usd $20 or 30 for an hour or two of sexual and massage service.
All the tourist incels are screwing it all up.
Correction: All the tourist incels have screwed it all up.
The chicas are for sex and massage not for taking out on dates in public.
If you take them out in public you will be laughed at.Nobody is going to laugh at an old fart with a young tart in tow on a date in public.
However depending on where the pair is they may get some disapproving glances.
An example would be in an elevator where another couple enters and the women gives a disapproving glance which has happened to me. Or if a family is going to enter an elevator and they have kids and see and old fart with a young tart they don't get in the elevator with you.
Or the look of shame when guys are bringing young tarts up to the room.
This all goes with the territory which you get used to, and nobody should care about what others think.
TexasPistol
08-24-23, 16:52
Half of New York got pussy. Half of Chicago, Miami or LA got pussy. However we don't see $12 rates, not even close. Even if you use PPP / Big Mac index to compare rates, the difference can't be justified.One thing I have noticed about Medellin is the incredible range of prices for sex. You can go to Gusto in Parque Lleras and pay up to $300 US or go to El Centro or go online https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/ and spend a little time hunting around and pay 60 K pesos (around $16) and get the same youth, beauty and passion, in other words the same sex. I suppose the difference is that the Gusto girl is more educated, sophisticated, more fashionably dressed while the 60 K pesos girl lives in a shack with her baby and her mother. So if that presentation and education is important to you, then you do you. I think that for most of us, we aren't looking for the highest SAT scores.
This is also my experience. In a few cases it is actually the same girls. To be fair, that is not something that is apparent to the infrequent visitor or the more casual observer. It's all about perceived value. For example, I'm a Centro rat but there are places and girls in Centro that are below even my low standards, LOL!
One thing I have noticed about Medellin is the incredible range of prices for sex. You can go to Gusto in Parque Lleras and pay up to $300 US or go to El Centro or go online https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/ and spend a little time hunting around and pay 60 K pesos (around $16) and get the same youth, beauty and passion, in other words the same sex. I suppose the difference is that the Gusto girl is more educated, sophisticated, more fashionably dressed while the 60 K pesos girl lives in a shack with her baby and her mother. So if that presentation and education is important to you, then you do you. I think that for most of us, we aren't looking for the highest SAT scores.
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