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There's been a midget working behind the church last few weeks, happy hunting.
One thing I have noticed about Medellin is the incredible range of prices for sex. You can go to Gusto in Parque Lleras and pay up to $300 US or go to El Centro or go online https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/ and spend a little time hunting around and pay 60 K pesos (around $16) and get the same youth, beauty and passion, in other words the same sex. I suppose the difference is that the Gusto girl is more educated, sophisticated, more fashionably dressed while the 60 K pesos girl lives in a shack with her baby and her mother. So if that presentation and education is important to you, then you do you. I think that for most of us, we aren't looking for the highest SAT scores.Who is paying 300 us. It's been 2 years since I've been but has it changed that much. Parque lleras and gustos suck. It should be no more than a 100.
Medclubber
08-24-23, 20:33
One thing I have noticed about Medellin is the incredible range of prices for sex. You can go to Gusto in Parque Lleras and pay up to $300 US or go to El Centro or go online https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/ and spend a little time hunting around and pay 60 K pesos (around $16) and get the same youth, beauty and passion, in other words the same sex. I suppose the difference is that the Gusto girl is more educated, sophisticated, more fashionably dressed while the 60 K pesos girl lives in a shack with her baby and her mother. So if that presentation and education is important to you, then you do you. I think that for most of us, we aren't looking for the highest SAT scores.Sorry this is just a bunch of nonsense. There's a huge amount of videos on youtube of the centro girls. If you can point me out some really hotties, 8-9-10's I'll buy you a beer LOL. 98% of those girls are just frikking ugly in my book. There are some doables there for sure but for hot girls you just need to go to different venues like Loutron or La Isla and pay up.
Nobody is going to laugh at an old fart with a young tart in tow on a date in public.
However depending on where the pair is they may get some disapproving glances.
An example would be in an elevator where another couple enters and the women gives a disapproving glance which has happened to me. Or if a family is going to enter an elevator and they have kids and see and old fart with a young tart they don't get in the elevator with you.
Or the look of shame when guys are bringing young tarts up to the room.
This all goes with the territory which you get used to, and nobody should care about what others think.I have experienced that slightly uncomfortable elevator ride when I am with a 18 year old girl and the couple who walks into the elevator is in their 50's or 60's. I am in my late 50's. They look at me and they look at my girl who looks very young and they have a disapproving look but do not say anything. The old guy is probably envious knowing that I am going to bang that young hot girl while he going to his room with the old hag. Ja ja ja.
One thing I have noticed about Medellin is the incredible range of prices for sex. You can go to Gusto in Parque Lleras and pay up to $300 US or go to El Centro or go online https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/medellin/ and spend a little time hunting around and pay 60 K pesos (around $16) and get the same youth, beauty and passion, in other words the same sex. I suppose the difference is that the Gusto girl is more educated, sophisticated, more fashionably dressed while the 60 K pesos girl lives in a shack with her baby and her mother. So if that presentation and education is important to you, then you do you. I think that for most of us, we aren't looking for the highest SAT scores.There has been discussion on this topic, whether it is the same type of girl in terms of youth, beauty and passion. I have looked at the girls in El Centro and in the casas and the girls in Gusto and on Facebook. It is not the SAT score or educational level that separates the girls but it is just a different type of girl, in my humble opinion. Now, I know the El Centro rats would like to believe that. If so, keep believing that because it really can't be proven or disproven in any meaningful way. I just know what I see with my own eyes.
That being said, nothing wrong with good sex with a El Centro girl for 60 k. It gets the job done and your balls are drained.
Manizales911
08-24-23, 23:58
Have someone send you money through Western Union and pick it up from xito.Use Remitly, better exchange rate and lower fee. My baby mama picks up her monthly stipend from me at Exito like clockwork.
Mr Enternational
08-25-23, 02:26
I could sell you an airport and you would go for it. Seeking is filled with working girls who yes are fucking every dude with enough money to pay them. Think about it, you messaged them, talked them up and agreed on a price. You didn't discover the theory of gravity or gold. You are one of the many dates they have scheduled. These girls will sell you a dream and an airport.LOL. She does not usually do it. Just so happened she needed money for a special thing and he was in the right place at the right time. MF peoeple need money for special things everyday. It is called rent, food, transportation. Fucking living. Like you are not going to work everyday but will just go on Thursday because out of nowhere you have to buy medicine. Making excuses for why the girl is a hooker just this one time. How much is that airport?
I can honestly say I give zero fucks about what anyone says or thinks about my dates. One of the biggest benefits of living here is no one can do anything about it except give you stink eye, especially if you keep it legal.
I have experienced that slightly uncomfortable elevator ride when I am with a 18 year old girl and the couple who walks into the elevator is in their 50's or 60's. I am in my late 50's. They look at me and they look at my girl who looks very young and they have a disapproving look but do not say anything. The old guy is probably envious knowing that I am going to bang that young hot girl while he going to his room with the old hag. Ja ja ja.
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Mr Enternational
08-25-23, 02:43
Half of New York got pussy. Half of Chicago, Miami or LA got pussy. However we don't see $12 rates, not even close. Even if you use PPP / Big Mac index to compare rates, the difference can't be justified.Is there not a sucker born every minute? You are seeing the consequences of a bunch of them gathered in New York, Chicago, Miami, Sosua, Cartagena, etc.
It is the same thing with diamonds. Shiny rocks have been sitting in holes in the ground for millions of years and people paid them no nevermind. But just in the past 100 years somebody was able to convince Westerners with more money than they know what do with that a shiny rock is something more valuable than it actually is. Why is it that you never see the population known for selling shiny rocks wearing shiny rocks? Ever tried selling one of those shiny rocks back to them? Maybe you would like to buy some air? I hear it pairs well with overpriced New York pussy.
There's been a midget working behind the church last few weeks, happy hunting.You mean a dwarf, not a midget.
Nobody is going to laugh at an old fart with a young tart in tow on a date in public.
However depending on where the pair is they may get some disapproving glances.
An example would be in an elevator where another couple enters and the women gives a disapproving glance which has happened to me. Or if a family is going to enter an elevator and they have kids and see and old fart with a young tart they don't get in the elevator with you.
Or the look of shame when guys are bringing young tarts up to the room.
This all goes with the territory which you get used to, and nobody should care about what others think.I just chatter away with the gals and people think I'm her grandfather.
Sorry this is just a bunch of nonsense. There's a huge amount of videos on youtube of the centro girls. If you can point me out some really hotties, 8-9-10's I'll buy you a beer LOL. 98% of those girls are just frikking ugly in my book. There are some doables there for sure but for hot girls you just need to go to different venues like Loutron or La Isla and pay up.Although I'm not a Centro rat, I used to spend a few hours there every day, just walking around and enjoying the ambiance. Now I have no idea what an 8, 9, or 10 is to you. A great deal of experience and observation has taught me that each man has his own preferences. I also know that if you walk through once, especially with a camera out, you probably won't see anything worth seeing. You have to keep making the rounds and you'll spot them, the ones you'll never find watching YouTube videos from guys who know next to nothing about the area (if they knew anything they wouldn't be posting the videos).
It's like the guys who find treasures in thrift stores. They don't go to 1 thrift store 1 time and find a $1,000 antique for $2. 50. They go to all of them, searching until they find the treasure.
StudBucket
08-25-23, 06:40
I could sell you an airport and you would go for it. Seeking is filled with working girls who yes are fucking every dude with enough money to pay them. Think about it, you messaged them, talked them up and agreed on a price. You didn't discover the theory of gravity or gold. You are one of the many dates they have scheduled. Yes some of these girls can be found in other venues, I've personally seen girls from Lleras, tinder and FB on seeking. I also wouldn't negotiate multi hours unless it's a repeat and you can confirm worthiness. Looking for potential GF on seeking is bound for drama. These girls will sell you a dream and an airport.Wise post and good advice gents, I agree.
From my first trip in August I can say that there is definitely a difference in the quality of girls between El Centro and other venues. What I found anecdotally is that paying more will get you better girls and a better experience but only up to a point. I found that after 400 000 pesos paying more does not get you anything extra: you can spend 300 $ on a Gusto girl but she will not be hotter or give better service than an attractive FB girl that you pay 300-400 k.
However I found there was a huge difference between the 70 k COP girls and the 300-400 k girls. I did not see any girl below 150 k that I wanted to bang so for me 150-400 k is the sweet spot for quality and price.
Trust me he's bangs young pussy too. He lives in pussy heaven. He might not roll like you roll.
I have experienced that slightly uncomfortable elevator ride when I am with a 18 year old girl and the couple who walks into the elevator is in their 50's or 60's. I am in my late 50's. They look at me and they look at my girl who looks very young and they have a disapproving look but do not say anything. The old guy is probably envious knowing that I am going to bang that young hot girl while he going to his room with the old hag. Ja ja ja..
JohnnieCash
08-25-23, 14:09
Trust me he's bangs young pussy too. He lives in pussy heaven. He might not roll like you roll.Difference being he doesn't bring his hookers home for all his neighbors / friends / family to see or his wife to run into. I don't bring them where I live either, prefer love hotels.
TexasPistol
08-25-23, 15:10
Sorry this is just a bunch of nonsense. There's a huge amount of videos on youtube of the centro girls. If you can point me out some really hotties, 8-9-10's I'll buy you a beer LOL. 98% of those girls are just frikking ugly in my book. There are some doables there for sure but for hot girls you just need to go to different venues like Loutron or La Isla and pay up.There really are. You have to do some hunting around and if your specific requirements are no tattoos, barely legal and big natural breasts then you might have to pay more. Or maybe not. Sometimes just the fact that something costs more makes it seem better. "Cheap sex worker" has a stigma, however what's wrong with looking for bargains in sex just like anything else?
I do a lot of running. What's the difference between $50 running shoes and $200 running shoes? $150.
Elvis 2008
08-25-23, 15:11
Disclaimer: this is a crosspost from the "Seeking Arrangement" forum, although I have made some editions.
Folks,
I'm heading to Medellin next week. I've been there before but had never used SA (seeking arrangement) there.
I am already in contact with a bunch of really hot chicks, but I have not talked money with anyone yet, I just have been filtering out pros because I'm looking for the civilian type.
My last sugar baby relationships date from before the pandemic, so I don't have a good reference in price. I think I read earlier here folks saying 500 K COP, which sounds super reasonable (to me, given the quality of the woman) but I want to get your opinion hopefully based on your current experience. What is a fair price these days for a really young and tight 20 y / o hottie?
I read elsewhere folks talking about 250-400 EUR for Wester Europe and I was just yesterday quoted $500 by a pretty hot 25 y / o in TX.
So for Medellin, would $100 be a good amount not to offend the girl right out the bat? $150?
Thanks in advance.Mono, try not to talk price. The best sessions I had were women who fucked me without a price, and when we were done, I gave them a gift but a lot of times even giving a gift would have almost been insulting as the women were not the hooker types.
I typically gave the hotter women $100 which was 5,000 COP but now is only 4,000 so you might have to start out at $125.
The most I paid was $140 which would be 6400 COP now but that was with a 9 who let me fuck her bare and she was amazing in bed.
I agree with every bit of this except the part about you not being a Centro rat. You might be missing a whisker or two but this kind of understanding is not common outside of the rat's nest.
Although I'm not a Centro rat, I used to spend a few hours there every day, just walking around and enjoying the ambiance. Now I have no idea what an 8, 9, or 10 is to you. A great deal of experience and observation has taught me that each man has his own preferences. I also know that if you walk through once, especially with a camera out, you probably won't see anything worth seeing. You have to keep making the rounds and you'll spot them, the ones you'll never find watching YouTube videos from guys who know next to nothing about the area (if they knew anything they wouldn't be posting the videos).
It's like the guys who find treasures in thrift stores. They don't go to 1 thrift store 1 time and find a $1,000 antique for $2. 50. They go to all of them, searching until they find the treasure.
From my first trip in August I can say that there is definitely a difference in the quality of girls between El Centro and other venues. What I found anecdotally is that paying more will get you better girls and a better experience but only up to a point. I found that after 400 000 pesos paying more does not get you anything extra: you can spend 300 $ on a Gusto girl but she will not be hotter or give better service than an attractive FB girl that you pay 300-400 k.
However I found there was a huge difference between the 70 k COP girls and the 300-400 k girls. I did not see any girl below 150 k that I wanted to bang so for me 150-400 k is the sweet spot for quality and price.300-400 k is a good price range if one is looking for a cute, above average looking girl, I would say 7-7. 5/10 that provides decent GFE service. Maybe a few years ago, it was possible to have an 8+ girl for that rate. But nowadays, due to various reasons, the best looking girls out there charge more, 500-700 k, so if one wants quality, he has to pay up. I agree 300 USD is bizzare and applies to Gusto specifically. I rarely have been quoted that much anywhere else. The hottest girls online, cream of the crop, would quote somewhere between 650 and 1 million pesos, and normally after some negotiations, would settle for less.
From my first trip in August I can say that there is definitely a difference in the quality of girls between El Centro and other venues. What I found anecdotally is that paying more will get you better girls and a better experience but only up to a point. I found that after 400 000 pesos paying more does not get you anything extra: you can spend 300 $ on a Gusto girl but she will not be hotter or give better service than an attractive FB girl that you pay 300-400 k.
However I found there was a huge difference between the 70 k COP girls and the 300-400 k girls. I did not see any girl below 150 k that I wanted to bang so for me 150-400 k is the sweet spot for quality and price.I pull these from Seeking. What qualification does it require to be on seeking? You just have to pay for what you like from where you find them. The first difference is really how they are dressed between different venus
ColombiaLover
08-25-23, 20:46
My experience is that if you put in the work, you can get a good quality GFE girl for 150 - 250 k. Girls who charge more are either hardened pros or chicas who "think" they deserve that much because some other chica friend said she should charge that much. Now if you are into fake tits, fake ass, surgeries, fake designer clothes, bags, and shoes, etc. Then you probably have to pay more to get that. Not might kind of girl. But just because you pay more doesn't mean the service will be better. In some cases, it will be average or worse, depending on the chica. If you don't have much time and don't visit MDE very often, then maybe paying 300-400 K makes your life easier and you don't care. But most chicas are not worth that much.
300-400 k is a good price range if one is looking for a cute, above average looking girl, I would say 7-7. 5/10 that provides decent GFE service. Maybe a few years ago, it was possible to have an 8+ girl for that rate. But nowadays, due to various reasons, the best looking girls out there charge more, 500-700 k, so if one wants quality, he has to pay up. I agree 300 USD is bizzare and applies to Gusto specifically. I rarely have been quoted that much anywhere else. The hottest girls online, cream of the crop, would quote somewhere between 650 and 1 million pesos, and normally after some negotiations, would settle for less.
Full disclosure, I am not a Seeking Arrangement user. All the same, I can't help but think this post is misleading. The girls have to be on the average more attractive than this lot.
I pull these from Seeking. What qualification does it require to be on seeking? You just have to pay for what you like from where you find them. The first difference is really how they are dressed between different venus
Eustisflman
08-25-23, 21:40
I use SA everywhere even at home in the US.
I have a few dates set up in MDE for 300-400 COP. That's a date with several hours and sex after (no time limit) not a come up and fuck me. One is even like I take what you give me. I also have a few from SA that are just workers. For them 150-200 COP since its strictly show up and fuck then leave.
I also like the flaca with small tits and a tiny ass. I know its not the Colombian way. If you have a few in your back pocket and care to share, DM me (of course the flaca you can put a few in your back pocket jaja).
My experience is that if you put in the work, you can get a good quality GFE girl for 150 - 250 k. Girls who charge more are either hardened pros or chicas who "think" they deserve that much because some other chica friend said she should charge that much. Now if you are into fake tits, fake ass, surgeries, fake designer clothes, bags, and shoes, etc. Then you probably have to pay more to get that. Not might kind of girl. But just because you pay more doesn't mean the service will be better. In some cases, it will be average or worse, depending on the chica. If you don't have much time and don't visit MDE very often, then maybe paying 300-400 K makes your life easier and you don't care. But most chicas are not worth that much.150-250 k will get you an average or below average looking chica. But for a monger who has been sex deprived at home for years, or has been fucking uglies, or women of more or less of his age, any young street urchin looks like a hottie.
What a chica is worth is determined by supply and demand, not by what you and me think. If she quotes you 500 k and can actually get 500 k from someone, then this is what she is worth. You might think is she not worth 500 k, or maybe she is just not in your budget, but this is not really her problem, but yours.
ElSexoChino7
08-26-23, 02:16
150-250 k will get you an average or below average looking chica. But for a monger who has been sex deprived at home for years, or has been fucking uglies, or women of more or less of his age, any young street urchin looks like a hottie.
What a chica is worth is determined by supply and demand, not by what you and me think. If she quotes you 500 k and can actually get 500 k from someone, then this is what she is worth. You might think is she not worth 500 k, or maybe she is just not in your budget, but this is not really her problem, but yours.A lot of factors comes into play and this is one of them. Most of the girls especially the ones 7+, knows their value and how much they are worth. These girls who have years of experience in being a pro, knows exactly what you're thinking when you approach them. It is always better to be polite and treat them with respect. Some pro's will be willing to lower their prices or give you a great deal if they like you. Sometimes you got to treat them like she's your real girl or romance them. They still want them to feel loved and get paid at the same time LOL, but giving them good experience from you will put a word out to your name and their network of friends.
Mr Enternational
08-26-23, 04:17
What a chica is worth is determined by supply and demand, not by what you and me think. If she quotes you 500 k and can actually get 500 k from someone, then this is what she is worth. You might think is she not worth 500 k, or maybe she is just not in your budget, but this is not really her problem, but yours.Not your problem at all. You can buy pussy quicker than she can sell pussy. And you do not need pussy to pay your bills. She needs money from you to pay hers. Ain't no supply and demand. A freelancer's worth is determined by what she decided to tell you the price is at a particular time and whether or not you decided to accept that price.
So if she tells you the price is 600 and you talk her to 400, she was really not worth 600 in the first place, but only worth 400? What about the guy who paid not only 600 off the bat but added a 100 tip? Was she really worth 700? Or the guy that actually got her to 300? Or even the mf that paid 60 at New Life when she only got half of that? Is she worth that 30 or the 700 that the second guy gave? When are you guys ever going to stop like a chick is doing you a favor by selling pussy?
300-400 k is a good price range if one is looking for a cute, above average looking girl, I would say 7-7. 5/10 that provides decent GFE service. Maybe a few years ago, it was possible to have an 8+ girl for that rate. But nowadays, due to various reasons, the best looking girls out there charge more, 500-700 k, so if one wants quality, he has to pay up. I agree 300 USD is bizzare and applies to Gusto specifically. I rarely have been quoted that much anywhere else. The hottest girls online, cream of the crop, would quote somewhere between 650 and 1 million pesos, and normally after some negotiations, would settle for less.How much would this go for? A girl that models.
LoveItHere
08-26-23, 06:36
There's been a midget working behind the church last few weeks, happy hunting.Thanks for repeating my post from 16 days earlier and getting it wrong. August 8 #63056.
Thanks for repeating my post from 16 days earlier and getting it wrong. August 8 #63056.Same shit to me.
150-250 k will get you an average or below average looking chica. But for a monger who has been sex deprived at home for years, or has been fucking uglies, or women of more or less of his age, any young street urchin looks like a hottie.....I think he is not talking about Seeking.
What a chica is worth is determined by supply and demand, not by what you and me think. ....There are other elements so that is not entirely true. Not all girls that ask for high price have the same demand. The girls limit their market to a group of gringos who were willing to pay it. Take any of these girl and put them in Centro, how many locals do you think will take them even with 50% off.
I typically gave the hotter women $100 which was 5,000 COP but now is only 4,000 so you might have to start out at $125.
The most I paid was $140 which would be 6400 COP now but that was with a 9 who let me fuck her bare and she was amazing in bed.Can you add the correct number of zeros to the digit? 4,000 COP is approximately $1.
World Travel 69
08-26-23, 15:41
If you need to look at my map, send a Private message to me.
Or any one of my Maps, because they are about to deleted.
Then send one to management to pay me for all my years of work.
All I ever received was a few dinners.
300-400 k is a good price range if one is looking for a cute, above average looking girl, I would say 7-7. 5/10 that provides decent GFE service. Maybe a few years ago, it was possible to have an 8+ girl for that rate. But nowadays, due to various reasons, the best looking girls out there charge more, 500-700 k, so if one wants quality, he has to pay up. I agree 300 USD is bizzare and applies to Gusto specifically. I rarely have been quoted that much anywhere else. The hottest girls online, cream of the crop, would quote somewhere between 650 and 1 million pesos, and normally after some negotiations, would settle for less.I agree w / MiamiBoy on pricing. I do not live in Medellin, so usually only have 1-2 weeks on the ground. No time for extended negotiations. I have a few long time favoritas that are 7-8's that I still pay 300 k to 350 k for 2 hours, but new girls charging referenced rates. They won't always budge much on price, but will have flexibility on time. I find the hotter ones are usually w / o kids and sometimes have fewer citas (due to pricing) so they are open to staying longer. On a per hour basis it has evened out for me.
ColombiaLover
08-26-23, 20:35
So you say. 150 - 250 K can get you better than average, especially when you consider not just looks, but also service. There is no need to pay 300+ for great sex. Some guys are paying for a fantasy. To each his own. Some guys pay because they can't negotiate or don't want to negotiate or don't care. I imagine some guys like street urchins and more power to them. I've never been a SW kind of guy and haven't been to a casa in probably 10 years or more. But I'm willing to do the homework and also get recommendations from chicas. Best luck I've had has been with sisters and cousins and friends, most of whom are not in the business. Those are the best to me.
Just because a chica can get some sucker to pay 600 mil, does not mean that is her worth. That is her worth to that one guy. Maybe no one else will pay her that.
For some guys it comes down to budget and I get that. For some guys like me, it comes down to common sense. The reason people have money is because they don't waste the money they have for no reason. Hence the reason why pro athletes make so much money and often go broke shortly after their career is over. No common sense.
I agree it's not her problem. If she asks for 500 mil and sticks with it, it's her issue. Maybe she gets a dumbass to pay it and maybe she doesn't. She's probably too stupid to understand that perhaps taking a little less would get her more clients and more money. They girls are, in general, pretty stupid. But a lot of gringos are pretty stupid also.
150-250 k will get you an average or below average looking chica. But for a monger who has been sex deprived at home for years, or has been fucking uglies, or women of more or less of his age, any young street urchin looks like a hottie.
What a chica is worth is determined by supply and demand, not by what you and me think. If she quotes you 500 k and can actually get 500 k from someone, then this is what she is worth. You might think is she not worth 500 k, or maybe she is just not in your budget, but this is not really her problem, but yours.
ColombiaLover
08-26-23, 20:37
Some apparently are willing to pay short-timer pricing, which is fine if that's the best you can do. No excuse for anyone who lives there, frequents there (I go about 10 times a year), or who puts in a little work.
I agree w / MiamiBoy on pricing. I do not live in Medellin, so usually only have 1-2 weeks on the ground. No time for extended negotiations. I have a few long time favoritas that are 7-8's that I still pay 300 k to 350 k for 2 hours, but new girls charging referenced rates. They won't always budge much on price, but will have flexibility on time. I find the hotter ones are usually w / o kids and sometimes have fewer citas (due to pricing) so they are open to staying longer. On a per hour basis I it has evened out for me.
How much would this go for? A girl that models.I doubt you'd find working girls looking like that in Medellin today. The days of banging such girls in Mde are long gone.
I doubt you'd find working girls looking like that in Medellin today. The days of banging such girls in Mde are long gone.Definitely not true.
Mojo Bandit
08-26-23, 23:32
How much would this go for? A girl that models.
I doubt you'd find working girls looking like that in Medellin today. The days of banging such girls in Mde are long gone.If you're asking if it's just possible to find girls like this the answer is always yes. Gusto is probably the most expensive venue and you might have to get lucky and be there on the right night to see one as hot as your model example but do your research online and you can find them. I talked to chicas that are just as pretty as her on FB just today that are semi-pro type working girls and I see them on on Seeking Arr. That are just as hot but again you have to do your research and develope your approach to see what kind of prices you are going to get. I have my own approach and my own style so as far as prices go YMMV.
I doubt you'd find working girls looking like that in Medellin today. The days of banging such girls in Mde are long gone.I saw this girl on Seeking. I don't know if she is a working girl or not, but I'm sure she is available for the right price. She is the type of a girl I would enjoy going out with, or travel if there is chemistry.
I don't know what she charges, but I would not talk money, unless she brings it up. And if she does, I would offer 600 mil cop or so, and see if she accepts. Now, for 600 I expect to have a few hours long date (possible TLN), not just a quickie.
Not your problem at all. You can buy pussy quicker than she can sell pussy. And you do not need pussy to pay your bills. She needs money from you to pay hers. Ain't no supply and demand. A freelancer's worth is determined by what she decided to tell you the price is at a particular time and whether or not you decided to accept that price.
So if she tells you the price is 600 and you talk her to 400, she was really not worth 600 in the first place, but only worth 400? What about the guy who paid not only 600 off the bat but added a 100 tip? Was she really worth 700? Or the guy that actually got her to 300? Or even the mf that paid 60 at New Life when she only got half of that? Is she worth that 30 or the 700 that the second guy gave? When are you guys ever going to stop like a chick is doing you a favor by selling pussy?I should have said that if she can get 500 mil consistently, then that is what she is worth. I understand that some sucker can pay her a million, but if she can't get a million on a regular basis, this would mean she is not worth a million. The point I was trying to make is the following: if a girl gets 500-700 mil on a consistent basis, she won't be selling her pussy for 150-250 k. Why would she? Makes no sense. A facebook girl selling her pussy for 300 k and having a good customer base, won't sell her pussy for 50 in El Centro. Even if she is brand new to the biz, and gets lucky when some sucker pays her a million, she won't be sticking to 1 million price tag for long, if there are no other mongers willing to pay that much. Sooner or later her rate will go down to be in line with the market.
Most of the girls especially the ones 7+, knows their value and how much they are worth. These girls who have years of experience in being a pro, knows exactly what you're thinking when you approach them.Why would I want a pro with years of experience? LOL. Nah, thanks. I don't like hardened pros that have been run through.
What you said about romance and stuff, definitely works but it works best with semi pros and non pros (my target audience).
She does model, here a publication I found with my Pimeyes account:
https://thekindredboutique.com/products/lace-trimmed-tank
How much would this go for? A girl that models.
Definitely not true.Definitely true that it's definitely not true. There are plenty of working models to be found on Facebook who are available for a price. Price varies.
TexasPistol
08-27-23, 16:17
I think that regarding pricing and how low you can go depends a lot on what your priorities are.
If you want someone who could be on the cover of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition, that's probably going to be expensive. I find however that the top tier appearance wise can be a lower tier attitude wise. In my book sex is 50% is appearance and 50% is attitude and passion.
To me, good sex means a woman under 30 (I'm over 60), who is pretty (I guess that means at least a 7), friendly, polite and loves sex. That is available for 60 k COP in Medellin although you may need to spend a few hours either online or on the street in El Centro. If you want to pay 200 k or 500 k you certainly can, and maybe get what you want in 15 minutes, but what's the big rush?
Anyway, just my two cents.
I should have said that if she can get 500 mil consistently, then that is what she is worth. I understand that some sucker can pay her a million, but if she can't get a million on a regular basis, this would mean she is not worth a million. The point I was trying to make is the following: if a girl gets 500-700 mil on a consistent basis, she won't be selling her pussy for 150-250 k. Why would she? Makes no sense. A facebook girl selling her pussy for 300 k and having a good customer base, won't sell her pussy for 50 in El Centro. Even if she is brand new to the biz, and gets lucky when some sucker pays her a million, she won't be sticking to 1 million price tag for long, if there are no other mongers willing to pay that much. Sooner or later her rate will go down to be in line with the market.This seems logical, until you learn that prostitution has nothing to do with logic. It simply doesn't work that way.
Almost universally prostitution is the result of need. Very few girls grow up thinking how wonderful it would be to fuck strangers for money. Instead, usually at an early age, often through coercion or force, they're introduced to the concept.
There's no corporate ladder to climb, nothing to drive them except a desire to move beyond prostitution. Fortunately for us and unfortunately for them, there are few opportunities for success that don't involve selling sex.
Some make the best of it, some even learn to enjoy it, at least part of the time. But there is no "what she's worth" crap. The price you're offered is based on 1 of 3 things:
1. How badly she needs the money.
2. How much does she think she can get from you.
3. How much she despises or likes you.
If she really needs to raise 150 k before tomorrow, while she might search for a 600 k or 1,000 k sucker, she's taking the first offer of 150 k or more. If she thinks you're a sucker, desperate to be with her, then her price goes as high as she can get. And if she looks at you and dreads the idea, then she'll try to price herself out of your budget.
And tomorrow, when the Colombian neighbor, who has been giving her 50 k since she was 14, sends her a message, guess who's riding on top of her for 50 k.
As for the rest:
Any girl who has a sufficient customer base to establish her "market rate" is a hardened pro. And unless she markets herself hard to gringos, she's never getting a consistent rate of 150 k or more. Her only hope of getting a consistent pay of 500-600 k is to keep finding gullible gringos who will pass her info on to more gullible gringos.
If you're asking if it's just possible to find girls like this the answer is always yes. Gusto is probably the most expensive venue and you might have to get lucky and be there on the right night to see one as hot as your model example but do your research online and you can find them. I talked to chicas that are just as pretty as her on FB just today that are semi-pro type working girls and I see them on on Seeking Arr. That are just as hot but again you have to do your research and develope your approach to see what kind of prices you are going to get. I have my own approach and my own style so as far as prices go YMMV.My bad, I'm a casa man and used to bang girls looking like that in the casas back in the day. I can't speak for fb or seeking.
Dates: August 14-17.
Arrived at MDE shortly before noon and was through immigration and in my rental car before 12:30. First stop was Oviedo mall where I needed to convert some dollars. There was a good reason why I needed to use the cambios instead of just pulling money from the ATM. After that I headed to get keys to my apartment in Envigado.
Rented a 2 bedroom, 3 bath house, 3 level, only a few steps away from Calle de Buena Mesa. Incredibly convenient for food, and a covered paid parking lot just 2 minutes walk away. Cost was $40 per night, plus $30 cleaning fee. No porteria, no security. WiFi was consistently 30 mbps up and down speed. There's no air conditioning, but with fans in every room it wasn't necessary. There's a washer and dryer and well stocked kitchen. Safes in each bedroom and plenty of towels and clean sheets. Bedrooms are on 1st and 3rd floor, with full bathrooms on each floor. Second floor is set up as an office with a desk. Very quiet and comfortable at night.
Since my girlfriend had just started orientation and training for her new job, I didn't spend much time with her until I arrived in Santa Marta. This worked out well because a couple of girls owed me favors.
The first girl recently started her internship, but couldn't afford to buy scrubs until the end of the month. Instead of waiting to begin, I loaned her 200 k and suggested a method of repayment.
She's 25, about 5'4", all natural GND type in looks. We've known each other for 3 years, but other than a lot of heavy flirting and a few dinners, we've never taken it further. Except I made it clear, this time would be different. She's not a pro in any way.
Original plan was to meet for dinner and go to my apartment. However, a few things came up causing a change of plans. First, her period started the night before. I don't have a problem with that, but I didn't want to deal with the mess at my place. Second, I expected things to get noisy. She's a masochist and to get the most out of her, I needed a place where the noise wouldn't disturb anyone. The final obstacle was the errands she needed to run for grandma. Cancel dinner, pick her up at grandma's and drive straight to Motel Ibiza. It was noisy, it was messy and we both left satisfied. We spent about 2 hours, cost was the 200 k I'd already given her for the scrubs, although she's convinced she still owes me.
Second girl is another I've known for over 3 years. Met her from buying videos at the beginning of the pandemic. Someone gave her my WhatsApp and out of the blue I started getting videocalls from her. With the other girls I made a deal. I would send them a set amount of money, 1 time. They would send videos which they felt were a fair trade. If I thought they had done a fair trade, I was open to buy again. Almost all of them failed. This girl, however, just kept going, before I could even offer to send money. Videos, solo and with a girlfriend, video calls, pictures. I sent a bit of money a few times, but it almost didn't seem to matter. When I was able to get to Medellin she came over, refused to name a price, stayed for 2 hours and seemed thrilled with 200 k. That was the last time I paid her.
I've been avoiding her over the past 18 months due to the girlfriend, but decided it was time for a visit. Besides I had a gift for her, a little $30 heater. She lives high in the mountains about an hour away from Medellin and it gets pretty cold there. She asked if she could introduce me to her friend. Of course.
Finding her house was a nightmare, but I finally arrived. Her friend showed up a few minutes later. Once they were both ready we went to La Rufina for dinner. It's worth checking out, although it's pretty far out of town. After dinner we took the long drive to my place. The plan was for them both to spend the night.
My friend is medium height with tiny feet and very large breasts. She's my idea of what "thick" should look like, lots of curves, all natural, with a small waist and everything firm. Her friend is bigger and chubby in my book, although not enough to be a problem. For DD cup fans, she's over qualified. Both have pretty faces.
What followed was more of a trio than a threesome, although there was some interaction with the girls. No phones were used, except to provide music. BBBJ and DFK were standard, as was CFS. My friend had brought an extremely noisy vibrator which was shared. When we were finished the sheets were soaked, so I left them upstairs and went to sleep in the downstairs bedroom. Woke them up at the agreed upon time, called an Uber for the other girl to take her to work. Gave my friend 50 k for the driver she got in touch with. Other than dinner, that was all I spent.
Once they were gone, I cleaned up, finished packing and got on the road to Santa Marta.
Been awhile since I scrolled thru the MDE forum. I absolutely miss you guys and I seriously miss MDE. Hopefully some day I can make my way back. Happy hunting fellas!!
I doubt you'd find working girls looking like that in Medellin today. The days of banging such girls in Mde are long gone.Why you say that? Met a girl and her twin sister in Cancun they were working at the "strip club" out there, both look like models had old drunk men rubbing up on them. Anywhere else they would be living in a penthouse with a rich dude.
We owe you a deb of gratitude Sir.
If you need to look at my map, send a Private message to me.
Or any one of my Maps, because they are about to deleted.
Then send one to management to pay me for all my years of work.
All I ever received was a few dinners.
This seems logical, until you learn that prostitution has nothing to do with logic. It simply doesn't work that way.
Almost universally prostitution is the result of need. Very few girls grow up thinking how wonderful it would be to fuck strangers for money. Instead, usually at an early age, often through coercion or force, they're introduced to the concept.
There's no corporate ladder to climb, nothing to drive them except a desire to move beyond prostitution. Fortunately for us and unfortunately for them, there are few opportunities for success that don't involve selling sex.
Some make the best of it, some even learn to enjoy it, at least part of the time. But there is no "what she's worth" crap. The price you're offered is based on 1 of 3 things:
1. How badly she needs the money.
2. How much does she think she can get from you.
3. How much she despises or likes you.
If she really needs to raise 150 k before tomorrow, while she might search for a 600 k or 1,000 k sucker, she's taking the first offer of 150 k or more. If she thinks you're a sucker, desperate to be with her, then her price goes as high as she can get. And if she looks at you and dreads the idea, then she'll try to price herself out of your budget.
And tomorrow, when the Colombian neighbor, who has been giving her 50 k since she was 14, sends her a message, guess who's riding on top of her for 50 k.
As for the rest:
Any girl who has a sufficient customer base to establish her "market rate" is a hardened pro. And unless she markets herself hard to gringos, she's never getting a consistent rate of 150 k or more. Her only hope of getting a consistent pay of 500-600 k is to keep finding gullible gringos who will pass her info on to more gullible gringos.Girls in the 600 k+ category are usually doing well, even having very few dates. Some of them are doing much better than you would think, and are probably on a yacht somewhere in Europe, as we speak. I also disagree that a girl has to cater to gringos specifically to get a consistent rate of 150 k+. As Mr E would say, half of MDE got a pussy, however true stunners willing to sell pussy, are scarce even in MDE. These girls can easily cater to wealthy or upper middle class locals. In the grand scheme of things, 100-150 USD is not a lot, and not only gringos can afford those rates. But to command those rates, a girl has to stand out. Nounce posted a few Seeking chicks recently, and most of them will never get 500-600 k simply because they are ugly and don't belong to this price range in the first place.
I can hardly imagine a 600 k girl to be so desperate that she would accept 25% of that, let alone 50 k from her neighbor. Once she reaches that price point on a regular basis, it makes zero sense to fuck her neighbor for 50 k, unless they are fuck buddies and just have casual sex.
Also, a "sufficient customer base" doesn't mean 10's or hundreds of gringos. It could be only a few guys at a time. Couple dates per week or so. Most of the girls who charge more don't need high volume to make the money they need. Even one sugar daddy with a couple of side daddies (as a backup) would be sufficient. Some girls only engage in p4 p to supplement their income. Girls who charge less, rely on a higher volume of customers, and in the case of El centro SW and casas, on a MUCH higher volume. Everybody needs money, but not everybody is starving to the point they have to accept whatever they are offered.
What I noticed is that some posters here are stuck in the past when it comes to prices. The rates have increased substantially since after Covid. Everything got more expensive, airbnbs, flights, etc. Some guys have regulars they know for years, and enjoy grandfathered pricing. Others have long term arrangements, or relationships, and don't hunt anymore, or haven't been in the country in a while, and have no clue about the going rates. You gotta be in the game to know what the rates are.
These are cold hard facts.
I think that regarding pricing and how low you can go depends a lot on what your priorities are.
If you want someone who could be on the cover of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition, that's probably going to be expensive. I find however that the top tier appearance wise can be a lower tier attitude wise. In my book sex is 50% is appearance and 50% is attitude and passion.
To me, good sex means a woman under 30 (I'm over 60), who is pretty (I guess that means at least a 7), friendly, polite and loves sex. That is available for 60 k COP in Medellin although you may need to spend a few hours either online or on the street in El Centro. If you want to pay 200 k or 500 k you certainly can, and maybe get what you want in 15 minutes, but what's the big rush?
Anyway, just my two cents.
AmorPorFavor
08-27-23, 21:22
Girls in the 600 k+ category are usually doing well, even having very few dates. Some of them are doing much better than you would think, and are probably on a yacht somewhere in Europe, as we speak. I also disagree that a girl has to cater to gringos specifically to get a consistent rate of 150 k+. As Mr E would say, half of MDE got a pussy, however true stunners willing to sell pussy, are scarce even in MDE. These girls can easily cater to wealthy or upper middle class locals. In the grand scheme of things, 100-150 USD is not a lot, and not only gringos can afford those rates. But to command those rates, a girl has to stand out. Nounce posted a few Seeking chicks recently, and most of them will never get 500-600 k simply because they are ugly and don't belong to this price range in the first place.
I can hardly imagine a 600 k girl to be so desperate that she would accept 25% of that, let alone 50 k from her neighbor. Once she reaches that price point on a regular basis, it makes zero sense to fuck her neighbor for 50 k, unless they are fuck buddies and just have casual sex.
Also, a "sufficient customer base" doesn't mean 10's or hundreds of gringos. It could be only a few guys at a time. Couple dates per week or so. Most of the girls who charge more don't need high volume to make the money they need. Even one sugar daddy with a couple of side daddies (as a backup) would be sufficient. Some girls only engage in p4 p to supplement their income. Girls who charge less, rely on a higher volume of customers, and in the case of El centro SW and casas, on a MUCH higher volume. Everybody needs money, but not everybody is starving to the point they have to accept whatever they are offered.
What I noticed is that some posters here are stuck in the past when it comes to prices. The rates have increased substantially since after Covid. Everything got more expensive, airbnbs, flights, etc. Some guys have regulars they know for years, and enjoy grandfathered pricing. Others have long term arrangements, or relationships, and don't hunt anymore, or haven't been in the country in a while, and have no clue about the going rates. You gotta be in the game to know what the rates are.Another thing about most of the really hot 8+ girls who won't come see you for less than 500-600 or more is that they won't just fuck anybody. If you are not visually appealing to them you will not be fucking them. They want to see pics of you beforehand. You also have to show them a good time or you won't be seeing them again. But if you have one and they like you and your cock it will be a long date, more of a party with true GFE, not monger GFE, and likely BBFS with MSG. They may even spend the night or you might take them to dinner. They have real jobs or are full time students and are low volume hookers just supplementing their income. Now their job may be as a webcam model, I have been with several, but its still work.
VsebudetNY
08-27-23, 21:36
Definitely true that it's definitely not true. There are plenty of working models to be found on Facebook who are available for a price. Price varies.Definitely true that you can have citas with working models, want to be models, webcam models, IG girls with more than 50 K followers, chicas starting in porno with scenes on Pornhub, 18-19 years old barrio girls that could be models based on they look, but new to P4P brought to you by their puta amigas. And you will be surprised that price will be 250-500 MIL. You just need a wide network of working girls, patience and some luck.
More facts here but the key point is this kind of activity requires more time, patience, and contacts than most short time visitors have. I like to mix it up from time to time. It's interesting to see what is available in the 200 k to 300 k range.
Definitely true that you can have citas with working models, want to be models, webcam models, IG girls with more than 50 K followers, chicas starting in porno with scenes on Pornhub, 18-19 years old barrio girls that could be models based on they look, but new to P4P brought to you by their puta amigas. And you will be surprised that price will be 250-500 MIL. You just need a wide network of working girls, patience and some luck.
Another thing about most of the really hot 8+ girls who won't come see you for less than 500-600 or more is that they won't just fuck anybody. If you are not visually appealing to them you will not be fucking them. They want to see pics of you beforehand. You also have to show them a good time or you won't be seeing them again. But if you have one and they like you and your cock it will be a long date, more of a party with true GFE, not monger GFE, and likely BBFS with MSG. They may even spend the night or you might take them to dinner. They have real jobs or are full time students and are low volume hookers just supplementing their income. Now their job may be as a webcam model, I have been with several, but its still work.This is 1000000% true.
The stunners in mde will still BBFS, lick your ass, CIM, COF, anal etc. What it comes down to is they must feel comfortable around you.
I think this is just a way for them to feel less guilty about what they're actually doing.
They being hookers but if they feel attracted to a guy they feel like it was more fun than it was about the $$. But of course the $$ is the key.
Mojo Bandit
08-27-23, 23:44
My bad, I'm a casa man and used to bang girls looking like that in the casas back in the day. I can't speak for fb or seeking.I hear you. I have thing for finding at least one stunner and its easier for me to do online to visit Casas not knowing what I am going to find. Don't we all mourn the days when you can walk into the Mansion and find those stunner girls all day long -FB and Only Fans have ruined that to some extent too. I mourn those days and I have never been to the Mansion LOL. Unfortunately all I did was read about it back then when it was a lurker on the Medellin thread who only went to Cartagena and by the time I made it to Medellin I had to learn the FB scene to find the chicas I was looking for and since the price was the same as a chica in Caratagena at the time (150 k t0 200 k) it didn't matter to me. I could find those stunner girls in LDV every night in Cartagena. When LDV it was in Laguito it was easier because it was big enough to mover around. Now in the LDV of the old city its harder to move around but those stunners are still there too.
As far as pricing goes I believe, IMHO, JjBee62 and Mr International are both right as usual (even if they do not always agree with each other LOL) there are a lot of variables and no fixed prices. YMMV.
A lot of times these girls are thinking in the moment that makes them desperate. Maybe their baby has a birthday or one of their friends has a birthday coming up and none of their "regulars" are in town so they will take something over nothing. Too many variables to caculate. If you negotiate whether or not you fuck her in the end will not come down to what she thinks she is worth it is what you think she is worth. Which is what has ruined the market for us budget guys LOL.
Mr Enternational
08-28-23, 02:59
Nounce posted a few Seeking chicks recently, and most of them will never get 500-600 k simply because they are ugly and don't belong to this price range in the first place.So show us some girls ON SEEKING that do command this price range. Since Seeking is supposed to be the bee's knees and many guys here say they pay chicks from Seeking that amount, there should be no problem pointing the 600 K chicks on that particular site out.
Mr Enternational
08-28-23, 03:05
To me, good sex means a woman under 30 (I'm over 60), who is pretty (I guess that means at least a 7), friendly, polite and loves sex.This begs the question does she have to love sex with guys over 60 the same way that good sex to you means a woman under 30? Or is it still fine that she only loves sex with guys her own age but not older guys?
Girls in the 600 k+ category are usually doing well, even having very few dates. Some of them are doing much better than you would think, and are probably on a yacht somewhere in Europe, as we speak. I also disagree that a girl has to cater to gringos specifically to get a consistent rate of 150 k+. As Mr E would say, half of MDE got a pussy, however true stunners willing to sell pussy, are scarce even in MDE. These girls can easily cater to wealthy or upper middle class locals. In the grand scheme of things, 100-150 USD is not a lot, and not only gringos can afford those rates. But to command those rates, a girl has to stand out. Nounce posted a few Seeking chicks recently, and most of them will never get 500-600 k simply because they are ugly and don't belong to this price range in the first place.
I can hardly imagine a 600 k girl to be so desperate that she would accept 25% of that, let alone 50 k from her neighbor. Once she reaches that price point on a regular basis, it makes zero sense to fuck her neighbor for 50 k, unless they are fuck buddies and just have casual sex.
Also, a "sufficient customer base" doesn't mean 10's or hundreds of gringos. It could be only a few guys at a time. Couple dates per week or so. Most of the girls who charge more don't need high volume to make the money they need. Even one sugar daddy with a couple of side daddies (as a backup) would be sufficient. Some girls only engage in p4 p to supplement their income. Girls who charge less, rely on a higher volume of customers, and in the case of El centro SW and casas, on a MUCH higher volume. Everybody needs money, but not everybody is starving to the point they have to accept whatever they are offered.
What I noticed is that some posters here are stuck in the past when it comes to prices. The rates have increased substantially since after Covid. Everything got more expensive, airbnbs, flights, etc. Some guys have regulars they know for years, and enjoy grandfathered pricing. Others have long term arrangements, or relationships, and don't hunt anymore, or haven't been in the country in a while, and have no clue about the going rates. You gotta be in the game to know what the rates are.That explains the disagreement. In your world all the hookers have MBA's and live in a magical land that's nothing like Colombia, or any other country I've ever heard of.
Maybe, and it's a stretch, 1 out of every 1,000 Colombian hookers get themselves into a stable financial situation and many of those do it by finding other girls to pimp out. You would have us believe that the reason guys have trouble finding hookers is because they are all out of cell range on their yachts in the Mediterranean.
Sure some girls get sugar daddies. Some, particularly webcam models, get several. But the vast majority are living the typical feast or famine life. If they get a good payday, they will party until they're broke, then scramble to get enough to feed their kids, until the next sucker comes along to fund the next binge.
Prostitution is almost never a consciously chosen career path. It's the result of bad decisions and minimal options. That doesn't magically transform into economic savvy, marketing genius and time management mastery.
Fortunately, that means anyone with a bit of cash will always have options.
Ruin the market in Medellin for sure. That's why I moved on. How can you compete with a guy that sending a prostitute a month allowance. LOL!
I hear you. I have thing for finding at least one stunner and its easier for me to do online to visit Casas not knowing what I am going to find. Don't we all mourn the days when you can walk into the Mansion and find those stunner girls all day long -FB and Only Fans have ruined that to some extent too. I mourn those days and I have never been to the Mansion LOL. Unfortunately all I did was read about it back then when it was a lurker on the Medellin thread who only went to Cartagena and by the time I made it to Medellin I had to learn the FB scene to find the chicas I was looking for and since the price was the same as a chica in Caratagena at the time (150 k t0 200 k) it didn't matter to me. I could find those stunner girls in LDV every night in Cartagena. When LDV it was in Laguito it was easier because it was big enough to mover around. Now in the LDV of the old city its harder to move around but those stunners are still there too.
As far as pricing goes I believe, IMHO, JjBee62 and Mr International are both right as usual (even if they do not always agree with each other LOL) there are a lot of variables and no fixed prices. YMMV.
A lot of times these girls are thinking in the moment that makes them desperate. Maybe their baby has a birthday or one of their friends has a birthday coming up and none of their "regulars" are in town so they will take something over nothing. Too many variables to caculate. If you negotiate whether or not you fuck her in the end will not come down to what she thinks she is worth it is what you think she is worth. Which is what has ruined the market for us budget guys LOL.
Explorer8939
08-28-23, 12:55
I will be taking a holiday from Pattaya in a few months, and am debating to go to either MDE or Rio. I am 100% fluent in Spanish, but my Portuguese is a bit lame.
So, I am reading this forum with great interest (I have been to Rio many times).
How long would you suggest staying in MDE?
It stands to reason that organized forward focused financial planning is not a prominent attribute among prepagos. For example, many of the Centro street girls (some of them with several children) pay a daily fee for their living space. They work the street to get enough dates for food and their daily rent. If they don't earn enough and can't convince their landlord to give them a break (usually in exchange for an extra cost) they will be put out and have to bunk up with a friend or find a spot out on the street.
I hear you. I have thing for finding at least one stunner and its easier for me to do online to visit Casas not knowing what I am going to find. Don't we all mourn the days when you can walk into the Mansion and find those stunner girls all day long -FB and Only Fans have ruined that to some extent too. I mourn those days and I have never been to the Mansion LOL. Unfortunately all I did was read about it back then when it was a lurker on the Medellin thread who only went to Cartagena and by the time I made it to Medellin I had to learn the FB scene to find the chicas I was looking for and since the price was the same as a chica in Caratagena at the time (150 k t0 200 k) it didn't matter to me. I could find those stunner girls in LDV every night in Cartagena. When LDV it was in Laguito it was easier because it was big enough to mover around. Now in the LDV of the old city its harder to move around but those stunners are still there too.
As far as pricing goes I believe, IMHO, JjBee62 and Mr International are both right as usual (even if they do not always agree with each other LOL) there are a lot of variables and no fixed prices. YMMV.
A lot of times these girls are thinking in the moment that makes them desperate. Maybe their baby has a birthday or one of their friends has a birthday coming up and none of their "regulars" are in town so they will take something over nothing. Too many variables to caculate. If you negotiate whether or not you fuck her in the end will not come down to what she thinks she is worth it is what you think she is worth. Which is what has ruined the market for us budget guys LOL.
Mr Enternational
08-28-23, 15:38
That explains the disagreement. In your world all the hookers have MBA's and live in a magical land that's nothing like Colombia, or any other country I've ever heard of.They are also models and beauty queens. Nothing wrong with having pride in the prostitute that you pay your money to. Afterall, she is representing what your money can buy.
That explains the disagreement. In your world all the hookers have MBA's and live in a magical land that's nothing like Colombia, or any other country I've ever heard of.
Maybe, and it's a stretch, 1 out of every 1,000 Colombian hookers get themselves into a stable financial situation and many of those do it by finding other girls to pimp out. You would have us believe that the reason guys have trouble finding hookers is because they are all out of cell range on their yachts in the Mediterranean.
Sure some girls get sugar daddies. Some, particularly webcam models, get several. But the vast majority are living the typical feast or famine life. If they get a good payday, they will party until they're broke, then scramble to get enough to feed their kids, until the next sucker comes along to fund the next binge.
Prostitution is almost never a consciously chosen career path. It's the result of bad decisions and minimal options. That doesn't magically transform into economic savvy, marketing genius and time management mastery.
Fortunately, that means anyone with a bit of cash will always have options.You are talking about bottom feeders, dirt poor girls, drug addicts, often with kids, living in a shack and trying to make ends meet every day. Most of the girls that I meet don't have MBA degree, but are in a much better position in life. Currently attending college or having a job, living in better neighborhoods, etc. Some are more fortunate because they get supported by parents. We are talking about different categories of girls.
Ruin the market in Medellin for sure. That's why I moved on. How can you compete with a guy that sending a prostitute a month allowance. LOL!You can't compete with a guy sending a girl a monthly allowance BUT there are plenty of other girls in Medellin. What you can do is move on to other girls. All this talk about guys ruining the market in Medellin is a bit too much. There are plenty of girls in Medellin. Some are priced very high due to their ability to attract guys willing to pay the amount requested but others do not have the luxury of waiting for guys to accept their terms. I have been visiting Medellin a few times now, and I've never had issues with finding young attractive girls for a reasonable price. Now I do encounter a few girls here and there asking for much more than I am willing to pay but I just say it is too much and move on to the next girl. I don't agonize about that particular girl and our inability to agree to terms. There are plenty of girls to chose from.
We all have our circles. I don't notice a shortage of girls in mine. I would say prices overall since the pandemic have very slightly outpaced the rate of inflation. The most recent annual inflation benchmark in Colombia is 13%. Seeking Arrangement, facebook, and Instagram are outlier markets with all sorts of exception cases. Casas and the streets of Centro are more uniform. Both have increased in cost an average 10,000 pesos, which is roughly 20% since the pandemic. The numbers don't account for the intangible of how we manage the sessions and relationships, which is what I think determines our level of satisfaction more than the price paid.
You can't compete with a guy sending a girl a monthly allowance BUT there are plenty of other girls in Medellin. What you can do is move on to other girls. All this talk about guys ruining the market in Medellin is a bit too much. There are plenty of girls in Medellin. Some are priced very high due to their ability to attract guys willing to pay the amount requested but others do not have the luxury of waiting for guys to accept their terms. I have been visiting Medellin a few times now, and I've never had issues with finding young attractive girls for a reasonable price. Now I do encounter a few girls here and there asking for much more than I am willing to pay but I just say it is too much and move on to the next girl. I don't agonize about that particular girl and our inability to agree to terms. There are plenty of girls to chose from.
Yes sir. I know there are plenty of girls in Da'jean. Honestly, Paisa's are a special breed, and I got tired of fucking with them. These are not girls; these are hoes! They belong to the streets. Let's all treat them as such. I've been visiting Da'jean since 2013, Bro!! Shit was off the chain back then! Now casa hoes are ugly and / or provide shitty mechanical service and have the nerve to ask for a tip. Charge crazy amounts for extra. Off to the next Colombian city that I will never disclose in this forum. LOL! I rant about guys ruining the market because I have seen it with my own eyes. I literally overhear hoes talking about up charging a stupid new gringo. This is all a recent phenomenon.
Have you guys ever heard the term Puebliado? 1000 cool points for you if you know what it means. LOL.
You can't compete with a guy sending a girl a monthly allowance BUT there are plenty of other girls in Medellin. What you can do is move on to other girls. All this talk about guys ruining the market in Medellin is a bit too much. There are plenty of girls in Medellin. Some are priced very high due to their ability to attract guys willing to pay the amount requested but others do not have the luxury of waiting for guys to accept their terms. I have been visiting Medellin a few times now, and I've never had issues with finding young attractive girls for a reasonable price. Now I do encounter a few girls here and there asking for much more than I am willing to pay but I just say it is too much and move on to the next girl. I don't agonize about that particular girl and our inability to agree to terms. There are plenty of girls to chose from.
ChuchoLoco
08-28-23, 20:11
Yes sir. I know there are plenty of girls in Da'jean. Honestly, Paisa's are a special breed, and I got tired of fucking with them. These are not girls; these are hoes! They belong to the streets. Let's all treat them as such. I've been visiting Da'jean since 2013, Bro!! Shit was off the chain back then! Now casa hoes are ugly and / or provide shitty mechanical service and have the nerve to ask for a tip. Charge crazy amounts for extra. Off to the next Colombian city that I will never disclose in this forum. LOL! I rant about guys ruining the market because I have seen it with my own eyes. I literally overhear hoes talking about up charging a stupid new gringo. This is all a recent phenomenon.
Have you guys ever heard the term Puebliado? 1000 cool points for you if you know what it means. LOL.So now it's the'jean? Got to learn a whole new lingo. I'll pass on the 1,000 points too. Don't hang in the same circles but that's ok. We all run with our own packs.
You are talking about bottom feeders, dirt poor girls, drug addicts, often with kids, living in a shack and trying to make ends meet every day. Most of the girls that I meet don't have MBA degree, but are in a much better position in life. Currently attending college or having a job, living in better neighborhoods, etc. Some are more fortunate because they get supported by parents. We are talking about different categories of girls.Do you write plots for Disney? Maybe The Hallmark Channel?
I'm talking about prostitutes. Women who exchange sex for cash or other things of monetary value. I'm not talking about a Disney Princess or any other fantasy.
"Hey dad! I'm going out tonight to fuck a gringo for money. Could you give me 300 mil so I can get my hair and nails done and buy a new outfit? Thanks! Don't worry. I know I've got a test tomorrow in my biomedical engineering class. I'll be home by 11. Love ya!" Sure must be nice to have such understanding, financially secure parents.
The girls you see, the girls everyone sees, almost every single time, come from poor families with no resources and too many kids. There's not a large pool of middle and upper class girls, enrolled in university, seeing an occasional gringo on the side, to pay for their yacht anchored in Mallorca.
There are however, many girls who will tell any lie to convince the gullible guys, who can't speak the language, they deserve to get paid more.
Go to her place, in the "better neighborhood. " It's either not in a better neighborhood, or she's sharing it with several other hookers (who will probably get thrown out soon because they aren't responsible enough with their money to pay the rent. Go to her university. Check out her class schedule.
Unfortunately, most guys went through that phase of believing everything the hookers told us. But then we learned some Spanish, started paying attention and simply did the math.
Some prostitutes are smarter than others. They realize that PT Barnum was absolutely correct. A sucker is born every minute and a whole bunch of them have US Passports.
Sorry this is just a bunch of nonsense. There's a huge amount of videos on youtube of the centro girls. If you can point me out some really hotties, 8-9-10's I'll buy you a beer LOL. 98% of those girls are just frikking ugly in my book. There are some doables there for sure but for hot girls you just need to go to different venues like Loutron or La Isla and pay up.Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. *Shrug*.
It's like the guys who find treasures in thrift stores. They don't go to 1 thrift store 1 time and find a $1,000 antique for $2. 50. They go to all of them, searching until they find the treasure.The problem w this analogy is that must of us don't go the centro looking for antiques. We are happy w just a comfortable chair for a while.
I do a lot of running. What's the difference between $50 running shoes and $200 running shoes? $150.Haha. And nicer packaging.
Why would I want a pro with years of experience? LO.The more peculiar is, why would you want one without years of experience?
TexasPistol
08-28-23, 23:39
This begs the question does she have to love sex with guys over 60 the same way that good sex to you means a woman under 30? Or is it still fine that she only loves sex with guys her own age but not older guys?Well, it means I'm convinced that she's enjoying sex with me. I'm not a mind reader. Unfortunately I don't know of any way to know for sure that a woman is having an orgasm. But at least I'm convinced that she's having fun and probably multiple orgasms.
Medclubber
08-29-23, 01:57
So show us some girls ON SEEKING that do command this price range. Since Seeking is supposed to be the bee's knees and many guys here say they pay chicks from Seeking that amount, there should be no problem pointing the 600 K chicks on that particular site out.I don't know about seeking, never used it. But if I can give an example, google the Colombia porn actress "Daniela Antury". I'm sure not everybody's cup of tea, I know a lot of guys look for natural, but in my book girls like this are 9's at least. I'm sure that if she'd worked at Gustos she'd be selling her pussy every night for at least $300, without problems. If she'd be smart she'd go to Dubai and work for at least $1000-$1500 a night and still be really busy.
Like MiamiBoy1 pointed out, such girl would never sell her pussy for 60 k in el centro. Never.
Eustisflman
08-29-23, 02:18
What's the better deal. Exchanging at a bank or just doing withdraws from an ATM?
Also is there a limit set by the ATM / Colombian bank on amount each withdrawal and max daily withdrawal. I am NOT asking about MY bank limits I know what they are.
You are talking about bottom feeders, dirt poor girls, drug addicts, often with kids, living in a shack and trying to make ends meet every day. Most of the girls that I meet don't have MBA degree, but are in a much better position in life. Currently attending college or having a job, living in better neighborhoods, etc. Some are more fortunate because they get supported by parents. We are talking about different categories of girls."Currently attending college " that is absurd, every one of these working girls will tell ya they are students, [Deleted by Admin].
Do you write plots for Disney? Maybe The Hallmark Channel?
I'm talking about prostitutes. Women who exchange sex for cash or other things of monetary value. I'm not talking about a Disney Princess or any other fantasy.
"Hey dad! I'm going out tonight to fuck a gringo for money. Could you give me 300 mil so I can get my hair and nails done and buy a new outfit? Thanks! Don't worry. I know I've got a test tomorrow in my biomedical engineering class. I'll be home by 11. Love ya!" Sure must be nice to have such understanding, financially secure parents.
The girls you see, the girls everyone sees, almost every single time, come from poor families with no resources and too many kids. There's not a large pool of middle and upper class girls, enrolled in university, seeing an occasional gringo on the side, to pay for their yacht anchored in Mallorca.
You never worked while in college? Me personally, I don't come from a wealthy family but when I was their age, my parents covered my basic needs. Food, rent (room, not the whole apartment), tuition. For everything else, like, clothing, new computer, spare money to hang out with friends, etc I had to work summer jobs and gigs. Same shit with these girls. Every time you reply to my posts, you go from one extreme to the other, argue for the sake of arguing.
As to the pool of girls enrolled in university, MDE is 2. 56 million people city, and I'm sure there are THOUSANDS if not tens of thousands college girl. And yes, some of them are willing to sell pussy, either to be able to afford tuition, or earn some spare cash. You call them prostitutes, simply because they "exchange sex for cash or other things of monetary value", and that's fine, maybe they are, but definitely not the same prostitutes selling pussy on the street just to get high after.
Do you support your "gf" financially? Do you buy her gifts? Do you pay for her travel expenses and shit? If so, by your definition, she might as well be a prostitute.
What's the better deal. Exchanging at a bank or just doing withdraws from an ATM?
Also is there a limit set by the ATM / Colombian bank on amount each withdrawal and max daily withdrawal. I am NOT asking about MY bank limits I know what they are.I think you have to have an account at the bank to exchange. It's best to use an ATM. You will get the rate set by Visa or MasterCard or whatever clearing house your card is tied to. The rate you get is real close to the closing rate two business days before the withdrawal. In other words, today (Tuesday) you will get last Friday's closing rate. Most banks charge a fee for using their ATM, and your bank may charge an out-of-network fee. Be sure to decline the exchange rate offered by the bank at the ATM.
The Colombian banks set a limit on each withdrawal and a daily limit.
Elvis 2008
08-29-23, 06:41
There's not a large pool of middle and upper class girls, enrolled in university, seeing an occasional gringo on the sideThat is literally all my gal's friends and family. A number of her friends have foreign boyfriends, speak multiple languages, and are university educated.
I'm talking about prostitutes. Women who exchange sex for cash or other things of monetary value. I'm not talking about a Disney Princess or any other fantasy.What women exchange sex for nothing? To quote Rich Cooper, Remove sex from a relationship, and you will discover that 90% of women have nothing to offer men in relationships.
Conversely, remove money from a relationship, and you will learn that 90% of women won't see a reason to be in said relationship. Are you saying that is not true?
"Hey dad! I'm going out tonight to fuck a gringo for money. Could you give me 300 mil so I can get my hair and nails done and buy a new outfit? Thanks! Don't worry. I know I've got a test tomorrow in my biomedical engineering class. I'll be home by 11. Love ya!" Sure must be nice to have such understanding, financially secure parents.Shaking my head. For the most part, almost all college students, even the ones with rich parents, have very little walking around money. You are just clueless as usual.
The girls you see, the girls everyone sees, almost every single time, come from poor families with no resources and too many kids. Go to her university. Check out her class schedule. Unfortunately, most guys went through that phase of believing everything the hookers told us. But then we learned some Spanish, started paying attention and simply did the math.Again, I am shaking my head. I have seen gals studying medicine do physiology homework, a teacher designing a lesson program in her school's uniform, a physical therapist studying anatomy. What fucking math are you talking about? You have your head in the sand and think you know it all. Your posts speak volumes about the kind of women you are seeing.
There are however, many girls who will tell any lie to convince the gullible guys, who can't speak the language, they deserve to get paid more.Oh brother. The women are paid with gifts, trips, dinners ETC, and they pay us back with sex, massages, cooking meals, and companionship. The trash you hang out with is always aiming for a buck; the women I know are constantly trying to prove their worth as a quality companion.
Here is Rich Cooper again, Women that don't clean, cook, give hummers or are willing to take their man's last name are always asking: "Where are the good men?
The good men just finished eating dinner, relaxing in their clean house about to get a hummer from a woman that took his last name.
I haven't had a problem finding women like that in Colombia. Apparently, the only women you know give hummers and have their hands out after.
I think you have to have an account at the bank to exchange. It's best to use an ATM. You will get the rate set by Visa or MasterCard or whatever clearing house your card is tied to. The rate you get is real close to the closing rate two business days before the withdrawal. In other words, today (Tuesday) you will get last Friday's closing rate. Most banks charge a fee for using their ATM, and your bank may charge an out-of-network fee. Be sure to decline the exchange rate offered by the bank at the ATM.
The Colombian banks set a limit on each withdrawal and a daily limit.Just to confirm, does this mean its a bad idea to exchange USD cash for Colombian Pesos at the MDE airport through the exchange tellers when you first arrive? Its recommended to just go to an ATM and withdraw a few times instead?
Mr Enternational
08-29-23, 08:51
Haha. And nicer packaging.Amazing how much you can get something for when the packaging is fucked up. Fucked up packaging is what I look for on Amazon because I know it will be at least 20% off. In the over 20 years that I have had my house I have bought 2 under the cabinet microwaves. The original was 25% off because the box was fucked up. Get it out to the car and I have to take it out of the box for it to fit. The second one was 50% off because they did not have a box for it. Joke was on them since it would not have fit in the car in the box anyway.
The other day I scheduled for a hooker to come over. She said she had to take a shower and put on a little makeup first. I said no makeup. She refused to come if she had to show up as her natural self. That packaging means so much to some people that they are willing to pay more for that than the item itself.
Mr Enternational
08-29-23, 09:03
Every time you reply to my posts, you go from one extreme to the other, argue for the sake of arguing. You call them prostitutes, simply because they "exchange sex for cash or other things of monetary value", and that's fine, maybe they are, but definitely not the same prostitutes selling pussy on the street just to get high after.You just went to the extreme. Why does the prostitute selling pussy on the street have to be doing it to get high? If the one on the street is doing it to keep a roof over her head and feed her family then would she be honored with the same grade of hooker as the one at the university? What if the hooker at the university is using the money to buy an iPhone and tussi instead of books and computers for school use? You talk as if there are only 2 groups of hookers: drug addict street ones and university ones struggling to get their day to day needs or school supplies. We all know better.
Eustisflman
08-29-23, 12:54
I think you have to have an account at the bank to exchange. It's best to use an ATM. You will get the rate set by Visa or MasterCard or whatever clearing house your card is tied to. The rate you get is real close to the closing rate two business days before the withdrawal. In other words, today (Tuesday) you will get last Friday's closing rate. Most banks charge a fee for using their ATM, and your bank may charge an out-of-network fee. Be sure to decline the exchange rate offered by the bank at the ATM.
The Colombian banks set a limit on each withdrawal and a daily limit.Does anyone know what the max withdrawal and daily limits are?
Thanks for the info!
JohnnieCash
08-29-23, 14:10
...such girl would never sell her pussy for 60 k in el centro. Never.Personally I wouldn't give her even 40 k if I saw her in centro and I'm not even joking.
I can only fuck so much and there are many better looking girls than can be found there, and some with bigger natural tits, 18-19 yo's with cute non-operated faces (and yes many many worse looking hags there as well).
IMO she's ugly (they key word is IMO).
But it's good when posters send examples of what they consider 9 or hot, goes to show how personal tastes differ, and nothing wrong with that, everybody should enjoy what they personally like.
such girl would never sell her pussy for 60 k in el centro. Never.But the point is that there is a very good chance that she used to. It would be the same girl. Only difference is she now charges more and does it in public.
Mr Enternational
08-29-23, 15:31
Conversely, remove money from a relationship, and you will learn that 90% of women won't see a reason to be in said relationship. Are you saying that is not true?Maybe you have had money all of your life or was never able to get a chick until you got money. Speaking from a mf that has not always had money but has never had a problem getting chicks, I will say that is definitely not true. Hell my cousin has not worked in 20 years yet never has a problem finding a chick to take care of him. He is 52 years old and now lives with a chick that has a docorate degree.
Just to confirm, does this mean its a bad idea to exchange USD cash for Colombian Pesos at the MDE airport through the exchange tellers when you first arrive? Its recommended to just go to an ATM and withdraw a few times instead?Unless your bank charges very high fees, it's almost always better to use an ATM. If you have to exchange at the arrival area of the airport, only exchange what you plan to need until you can get to an exchange in town or to an ATM because the rates at the airport are not good. You can search for "money exchanges" in Medellin and see on their websites what they are paying. Every one will be different. Then look at xe.com and see the real exchange rate. Make your decisions from that information. The one unknown is the fee charged by the ATM bank, which you will not know until you go to the ATM.
Personally I wouldn't give her even 40 k if I saw her in centro and I'm not even joking.
I can only fuck so much and there are many better looking girls than can be found there, and some with bigger natural tits, 18-19 yo's with cute non-operated faces (and yes many many worse looking hags there as well).
IMO she's ugly (they key word is IMO).
But it's good when posters send examples of what they consider 9 or hot, goes to show how personal tastes differ, and nothing wrong with that, everybody should enjoy what they personally like.One guys says she is a hot. Another guy says not even worth 40 mil. That is a wide disparity in personal taste but it does go to show how worthless these 1 to 10 rating scales are. Guy says he just banged a "10". Without a picture, it is really a meaningless statement. It just means that he banged a girl he personally considers a "10" in his eyes and it could be a "7" to other guys.
In the end, it really doesn't matter. As long as she is attractive to you, that is all that matters. Now, for bragging purposes, I guess it matters but then you need to show some pictures.
Does anyone know what the max withdrawal and daily limits are?
Thanks for the info!That varies by bank. I use Davivienda ATM's. The max withdrawal at one time is 2 million pesos. You can make multiple withdrawals in one day. I don't know their daily limit because I have $1000 daily limit with my Schwab card, and I can withdraw that amount. With BBVA bank, I think the max per transaction is 400 mil. I don't know if you can do multiple withdrawals in one day. At Scotiabank Colpatria, the max per transaction is 900 mil, and you can withdraw either three or four times daily. I don't know any of the limits at Bancolombia because I stopped using them years ago when they started charging a fee before hardly any other bank. Now almost all banks charge an ATM fee. I think Davivienda and BBVA do not charge fees.
Before anyone chimes in, I know Schwab, and some others, will reimburse the ATM fees if they are stated on the transaction, but I don't like to reward some banks when others don't charge a fee.
I hope this will end this discussion on this thread because it should be discussed in the "General Information" thread.
TexasPistol
08-29-23, 17:09
Again, I am shaking my head. I have seen gals studying medicine do physiology homework, a teacher designing a lesson program in her school's uniform, a physical therapist studying anatomy. Has anyone got the phone number of the physical therapist studying anatomy?? She can come over and study my anatomy. All for the sake of passing her exams of course. I very strongly support higher education for women.
Does anyone know what the max withdrawal and daily limits are?
!That depends on both the local and your own bank. Your limits may be different to other folks'.
I've been here for the past 6 weeks. Girl quantity and quality by the pool has varied each day. Seems to come and go. But most guys have enough regulars coming in from the outside. The bar has been the same way. Although I have met more new girls this trip including several who were at the bar for the first time with a friend who brought them to check it out. Going rate is 250-300 K plus tip or extras if you desire. However, one of my girls who a week ago went to the bar for the first time became a regular for me and we would just meet in the bar each night. She told me the other night that when she arrived to sign in, the "administration" told her to charge no less than 300 K and deny no condom requests or they will not be allowed back in. I've always known there is a bit of a "chicka union" in there but really each girl makes her own price. I paid 250 plus tips for two weeks and even had a couple who did anal and swallow. But I've also had girls who asked for 600 K. Needless to say they didn't go home with anyone. The girls in the bar talk a lot and share information. When I met a new black girl for the first time, I hadn't even finished a sentence and she told me that the girls told her "he likes the darker women" LOL.
For those who love a girl who can take it in the ass, I've had no problem this trip. Sometimes it is just heat of the moment. Not something planned. Here's an ass from one that you just know has been fucked a few times. This girl was a blast, squirted twice and swallowed like a good little ****.
I don't know about seeking, never used it. But if I can give an example, google the Colombia porn actress "Daniela Antury". I'm sure not everybody's cup of tea, I know a lot of guys look for natural, but in my book girls like this are 9's at least. I'm sure that if she'd worked at Gustos she'd be selling her pussy every night for at least $300, without problems. If she'd be smart she'd go to Dubai and work for at least $1000-$1500 a night and still be really busy.
Like MiamiBoy1 pointed out, such girl would never sell her pussy for 60 k in el centro. Never.Such girls sell their pussy in El Centro every day.
Sure, when she's famous, has had all the surgeries and is getting steady work, she's not in El Centro. But what happens when she is no longer making money that way? What happens when the money dries up?
You'll see them in the red light districts. For some, a botched plastic surgery, for others too much partying, or just age catching up to them, and they return to the streets.
And where did she start? Around the world, many of the porn stars you see were literally picked up from the street. Clean them up, fix hair and make-up and the fantasy is created. Then use them up, and when they start to fade, or when you pick up a new one from the street, you dump her back on the streets.
You can find them on Facebook, former models, porn stars, webcam girls. There's 1 in particular I'm thinking of right now. She was just a typical working girl 6 years ago, popular on Facebook. Someone paid for surgery, collagen and her price went up. Suddenly, she was going on big trips, nicer clothes, rolling in a different circle.
But, as a friend was fond of saying, "the rose fades fast in Medellin. " She's back amongst the Facebook crowd, struggling to find dates. I've watched the same thing happen with several girls. Some rise up, but most fall back down.
There's no pension plan, no golden parachute. In just a few years, most of them end up broke and struggling.
Fortunately, none of that matters to most guys. The girls you want are out there. Go and enjoy them and don't worry about anything other than whether or not you use a condom.
Just to confirm, does this mean its a bad idea to exchange USD cash for Colombian Pesos at the MDE airport through the exchange tellers when you first arrive? Its recommended to just go to an ATM and withdraw a few times instead?It's a horrible idea to exchange dollars at the Medellin airport. The exchange rate sucks. ATM is best. Shopping the exchange houses in Medellin isn't as good, but better than the airport.
I think fantasy will always be part of the game. It improves experiences as long as we don't get caught up in it to the point we lose sight of what is or is not real. When that happens it makes life unnecessarily difficult, expensive, and sometimes even dangerous. Fantasy things I think are sometimes hard to keep in their proper perspective are: the college girl, the "semi-pro," and girlfriend / girlfriend experience.
That explains the disagreement. In your world all the hookers have MBA's and live in a magical land that's nothing like Colombia, or any other country I've ever heard of.
Maybe, and it's a stretch, 1 out of every 1,000 Colombian hookers get themselves into a stable financial situation and many of those do it by finding other girls to pimp out. You would have us believe that the reason guys have trouble finding hookers is because they are all out of cell range on their yachts in the Mediterranean.
Sure some girls get sugar daddies. Some, particularly webcam models, get several. But the vast majority are living the typical feast or famine life. If they get a good payday, they will party until they're broke, then scramble to get enough to feed their kids, until the next sucker comes along to fund the next binge.
Prostitution is almost never a consciously chosen career path. It's the result of bad decisions and minimal options. That doesn't magically transform into economic savvy, marketing genius and time management mastery.
Fortunately, that means anyone with a bit of cash will always have options.
You never worked while in college? Me personally, I don't come from a wealthy family but when I was their age, my parents covered my basic needs. Food, rent (room, not the whole apartment), tuition. For everything else, like, clothing, new computer, spare money to hang out with friends, etc I had to work summer jobs and gigs. Same shit with these girls. Every time you reply to my posts, you go from one extreme to the other, argue for the sake of arguing.I never fucked guys or sucked their dicks for extra money in college. From your argument, I assume you did? There's a difference between working part-time to help fund an education, and sucking dicks. If a girl immediately rolls to "I'll just fuck a stranger to pay for this", it's highly unlikely she has the "work to build a future" mindset. University takes time, money and commitment and it takes years to see any reward for the effort. Prostitution is instant gratification. Fuck. Get paid. Doesn't take long for most girls to put university on hold.
Certainly, a few do it, but for most it doesn't work out. I learned that from a whole bunch of strippers. Stripping to pay for college. Except the 2 lifestyles are incompatible. Most drop out, Many plan to work for a few years then go back to school, but seldom do. Late nights, parties, always someone offering drugs and drinks. And the money.
As to the pool of girls enrolled in university, MDE is 2. 56 million people city, and I'm sure there are THOUSANDS if not tens of thousands college girl. And yes, some of them are willing to sell pussy, either to be able to afford tuition, or earn some spare cash. You call them prostitutes, simply because they "exchange sex for cash or other things of monetary value", and that's fine, maybe they are, but definitely not the same prostitutes selling pussy on the street just to get high after.From the OECD:
Attainment
The level of below upper secondary attainment among 25-34 year-olds is one of the highest among OECD and partner countries with available data. (24.5 %, rank 10/42 , 2021)
The level of below upper secondary attainment among 25-64 year-olds is one of the highest among OECD and partner countries with available data. (39.8 %, rank 10/43 , 2021)
The level of tertiary attainment among 25-34 year-olds is one of the lowest among OECD and partner countries with available data. (30.5 %, rank 35/43 , 2021)
The level of below upper secondary attainment among 55-64 year-olds is one of the highest among OECD and partner countries with available data. (60.8 %, rank 8/42 , 2021)Colombia ranks among the lowest in the world for education achievement, in all categories. Sure there are thousands of women in college. Figure 5 million people in the Medellin metro area, at a guess 150,000 enrolled in university. Call it 80,000 women. Perfect!
Except for 1 tiny problem. Most of those women don't need extra money for college. They don't need it because the majority of students are from families who can afford to support them. Spend some time on the campus of any Medellin university. EAFIT is a good example, or any of the others. You'll notice the difference. Or not.
As I've said, a few do it, most don't.
Do you support your "gf" financially? Do you buy her gifts? Do you pay for her travel expenses and shit? If so, by your definition, she might as well be a prostitute.I don't pay for her shit. It goes in the toilet, gets flushed. If that's your thing, I can ask her to bag it up and sell it to you. How much do you usually pay?
She might as well be a prostitute. Any woman who fucks and is not 100% self supporting could be considered a prostitute, if those the limits of your definition. Now call up your mom and explain it to her.
I'm surprised you don't understand this. You went to college. Surely you saw all the guys and girls who couldn't cut it. They partied themselves out, and ended up getting kicked, or dropping out.
DiscoverFL
08-29-23, 19:39
Unless your bank charges very high fees, it's almost always better to use an ATM. If you have to exchange at the arrival area of the airport, only exchange what you plan to need until you can get to an exchange in town or to an ATM because the rates at the airport are not good. You can search for "money exchanges" in Medellin and see on their websites what they are paying. Every one will be different. Then look at xe.com and see the real exchange rate. Make your decisions from that information. The one unknown is the fee charged by the ATM bank, which you will not know until you go to the ATM.To clarify on the airport ATM. If you DECLINE their offered conversion (always do this), you will get your banks own preferred conversion. BUT this specific ATM charges an additional withdrawal fee (I forget exactly, something between 25-30 k or so) for each withdrawal. Not a lot (7 USD), but you won't get that fee at an in-town major ATM. Hence the advice to just withdraw the $100-120 k you need for the cab ride into town and withdraw the rest at an in-town bank ATM.
DiscoverFL
08-29-23, 19:41
I've been here for the past 6 weeks. Girl quantity and quality by the pool has varied each day. Seems to come and go. But most guys have enough regulars coming in from the outside. The bar has been the same way. Although I have met more new girls this trip including several who were at the bar for the first time with a friend who brought them to check it out. Going rate is 250-300 K plus tip or extras if you desire. However, one of my girls who a week ago went to the bar for the first time became a regular for me and we would just meet in the bar each night. She told me the other night that when she arrived to sign in, the "administration" told her to charge no less than 300 K and deny no condom requests or they will not be allowed back in. I've always known there is a bit of a "chicka union" in there but really each girl makes her own price. I paid 250 plus tips for two weeks and even had a couple who did anal and swallow. But I've also had girls who asked for 600 K. Needless to say they didn't go home with anyone. The girls in the bar talk a lot and share information. When I met a new black girl for the first time, I hadn't even finished a sentence and she told me that the girls told her "he likes the darker women" LOL.
For those who love a girl who can take it in the ass, I've had no problem this trip. Sometimes it is just heat of the moment. Not something planned. Here's an ass from one that you just know has been fucked a few times. This girl was a blast, squirted twice and swallowed like a good little ****.Thanks for the report. Similar to what we experienced there in early-mid August. The girls told me that the 'word' has been passed around on telling new girls about the minimum and condoms. But you build our own rapport with girls so those are just guidelines.
Fun times in Medellin. My brother and I met up with Linda and Daniella to come over to our apartment in Laureles. Linda showed up looking in her usual knock out way an hour earlier so we had a few drinks and enjoyed a little smoke and some drinks. After a hour Daniella showed up looking super-hot too, she is really a tall one coming in at 6 foot 2 inches so yeah you will get some looks walking around with that one.
We head out to Taqueria Cuernavaca in Laureles and when we got there was a huge line and waiting list so Linda suggested La Pampa Argentinian Steakhouse. We got over there and was able to get a good table. So, we are having some conversation and Linda starts smoking some pot right there at the table. So, I turn to her and tell her that she probably shouldn't be doing that and she say "no se precupes, Daniella estas fumando su cigarro electronica". I'm like thinking we were going to get kicked out of the place but everything went well.
After dinner we head back to our AirBnB we pour some Cuba Libre's and we show the girls the Hot Tub out on our back patio. We started to coach the girls to get naked and jump in and they say you guys get in first. About 2 seconds later my brother and I were in the Hot Tub and were like on chicas, you have way too many clothes on. With a little more coaching the clothes started to drop off and before we knew it, they were in the tub with us. We had some drinks, talked, and played around a little and of course it was a great photo opportunity. I figure when we are 90, in our wheel chairs these pictures will bring back great memories.
After the Hot Tub Linda, lights one up and we partake for a little bit and then off to the bedroom and jump in bed. First, she starts massaging me a little bit and then starts kissing her way down and begins a great BBBJ. She is quite talented in this procedure and was driving me nuts as always. I had a real ripper going at this point and then she starts mounting me in reverse cow girl. Watching that ass and pussy riding up and down was giving me that life is good feeling LOL. Then she tells me that she really wants it doggie style, what can I guy do but comply at this point. So, there I am banging that fine ass watching those big titties swaying. I'm doing this for a while and since I had quite a few drinks it was difficult to climax. So, I pull out and lay down and had Linda finish me off with a great oral natural. Damages 4 hours $300,000 plus $50,000 tip.
One of many great nights in Medellin.
Next Report Parque Lleras.
Eustisflman
08-29-23, 21:14
That varies by bank. I use Davivienda ATM's. The max withdrawal at one time is 2 million pesos. You can make multiple withdrawals in one day. I don't know their daily limit because I have $1000 daily limit with my Schwab card, and I can withdraw that amount. With BBVA bank, I think the max per transaction is 400 mil. I don't know if you can do multiple withdrawals in one day. At Scotiabank Colpatria, the max per transaction is 900 mil, and you can withdraw either three or four times daily. I don't know any of the limits at Bancolombia because I stopped using them years ago when they started charging a fee before hardly any other bank. Now almost all banks charge an ATM fee. I think Davivienda and BBVA do not charge fees.
Before anyone chimes in, I know Schwab, and some others, will reimburse the ATM fees if they are stated on the transaction, but I don't like to reward some banks when others don't charge a fee.
I hope this will end this discussion on this thread because it should be discussed in the "General Information" thread.Thanks for the information. As to what section. Its Medellin I am asking about so its in here.
I don't know about seeking, never used it. But if I can give an example, google the Colombia porn actress "Daniela Antury". I'm sure not everybody's cup of tea, I know a lot of guys look for natural, but in my book girls like this are 9's at least. I'm sure that if she'd worked at Gustos she'd be selling her pussy every night for at least $300, without problems. If she'd be smart she'd go to Dubai and work for at least $1000-$1500 a night and still be really busy.
Like MiamiBoy1 pointed out, such girl would never sell her pussy for 60 k in el centro. Never.Ok I get it yes she's a 9 for me 8. 5. And she probably is worth 300 us at gustos. My problem is that any ugly girl that's wearing a dress can get in at gustos and she's expecting minimum 150 usd. That's crazy to me. I wouldn't pay more than 100 usd for most of the girls at gustos. Not to mention that if a girl isn't objectively ugly sex with a condom feels all the same independent of the girl.
Just like the girls have a 150 usd minimum union we need to also not pay for that. You guys can do what you want with your money but I think 150 usd is insane.
Who is going to gustos and paying that? LOL.
FreshOnTheBloc
08-30-23, 00:00
To clarify on the airport ATM. If you DECLINE their offered conversion (always do this), you will get your banks own preferred conversion. BUT this specific ATM charges an additional withdrawal fee (I forget exactly, something between 25-30 k or so) for each withdrawal. Not a lot (7 USD), but you won't get that fee at an in-town major ATM. Hence the advice to just withdraw the $100-120 k you need for the cab ride into town and withdraw the rest at an in-town bank ATM.Just wanted to mention Schwab has a debit card deal where they will refund all of your ATM fees. I use this card exclusively for travel and transfer funds into it only when I need it to withdrawal cash.
GeneHickman
08-30-23, 00:13
Ok I get it yes she's a 9 for me 8. 5. And she probably is worth 300 us at gustos. My problem is that any ugly girl that's wearing a dress can get in at gustos and she's expecting minimum 150 usd. That's crazy to me. I wouldn't pay more than 100 usd for most of the girls at gustos. Not to mention that if a girl isn't objectively ugly sex with a condom feels all the same independent of the girl.
Just like the girls have a 150 usd minimum union we need to also not pay for that. You guys can do what you want with your money but I think 150 usd is insane.
Who is going to gustos and paying that? LOL.Those that do aren't going to tell you here. If all that over pay stick to Gustos loutron and lleras, I'd be happy and never educate another fool. When I first started out I explored all venues that I am aware of. Centro at daytime, Centro casas, Laureles casas, La Isla and Fase dos, Loutron, Gustos, Seeking and FB. Even went to the mansion once. Only venue I haven't is tinder and bumble for obvious reasons. I took taximan referrals and and from other mongers. And then drew my own conclusions as to what suit my style. I would say after my first year I picked my favorite and stayed with it. So you just have to know your formula and what works for you and your style. If your style is to come to a poor 3rd works country make it rain and be a baller for a weekend and leave. Go have at it. Face the consequences if they come your way. When people say it's doable to get 8's at 200 mil why taxi it's because they have done their due diligence to get to that and built a roster and that's what they pay. Maybe you're lazy, not resourceful, maybe you can't believe them, maybe you have weird fetishes, and on and on, but if you follow this thread there's an enormous amount of info on here thant repeated and revisited. It's more than adequate to find your way. None of this crap discussion affects what many here do. I'll say that prices have gone up mayb be 50 mil over the past year whether that's from local factors or gringoflation IDK but either way it's not a factor, everything stateside is up even more and that is just life.
Mr Enternational
08-30-23, 00:21
we show the girls the Hot Tub out on our back patio. We started to coach the girls to get naked and jump in and they say you guys get in first. About 2 seconds later my brother and I were in the Hot Tub and were like on chicas, you have way too many clothes on.Please do not do that shit again. That was the perfect scenario for those chicks to lock you outside and be gone with your shit. Always make hookers get undressed first. Besides that I am not about to get into a hot tub with a dude!
JohnnieCash
08-30-23, 02:33
I said no makeup. She refused to come For some chicks it's like telling them to come barefoot.
That packaging means so much to some people that they are willing to pay more for that than the item itself.What's underneath has to meet the standard obviously but I do quite enjoy unwrapping a nice packaging. It's like a devouring a fancy dessert. One chica puts the glitter on her big tits for our meets, unprompted, guess she likes to have shiny tits LOL. Nice clothes and shoes, manicure, pedicure, shiny long hair, what's not to like. Yes you put a dinner in blender and drink it up, same end result, but it nicer to have it on plate, have it looking nice and eat it bit by bit.
Anyway, Colombian chicks generally seem to spend a lot of energy on the packaging, even when poor she'll get pampered for a date (not that I'm complaining). Vennies, are a bit more relaxed in that department, it would seem to me, or just have a different style. It's sometimes funny to see a gringo with a Colombiana all made up as if for a fashion photo-shoot and him looking like a bum.
It's also interesting to see the chicks pampered up for Sunday daytime strolls with families and bfs, a lot of sexy look-alike's in white sneakers.
Dendawga417
08-30-23, 02:35
I've been here for the past 6 weeks. Girl quantity and quality by the pool has varied each day. Seems to come and go. But most guys have enough regulars coming in from the outside. The bar has been the same way. Although I have met more new girls this trip including several who were at the bar for the first time with a friend who brought them to check it out. Going rate is 250-300 K plus tip or extras if you desire. However, one of my girls who a week ago went to the bar for the first time became a regular for me and we would just meet in the bar each night. She told me the other night that when she arrived to sign in, the "administration" told her to charge no less than 300 K and deny no condom requests or they will not be allowed back in. I've always known there is a bit of a "chicka union" in there but really each girl makes her own price. I paid 250 plus tips for two weeks and even had a couple who did anal and swallow. But I've also had girls who asked for 600 K. Needless to say they didn't go home with anyone. The girls in the bar talk a lot and share information. When I met a new black girl for the first time, I hadn't even finished a sentence and she told me that the girls told her "he likes the darker women" LOL.
For those who love a girl who can take it in the ass, I've had no problem this trip. Sometimes it is just heat of the moment. Not something planned. Here's an ass from one that you just know has been fucked a few times. This girl was a blast, squirted twice and swallowed like a good little ****.Good to know. I haven't been to the Mansion in over a year, though I'm planning on visiting this fall or winter. I had heard that some of the changes hadn't gone over well, so I'm glad I gave it time to shake out.
Who is the chica? I might give her a call when I'm down there, especially if she does anal.
MongerHunger
08-30-23, 06:19
Ok I get it yes she's a 9 for me 8. 5. And she probably is worth 300 us at gustos. My problem is that any ugly girl that's wearing a dress can get in at gustos and she's expecting minimum 150 usd. That's crazy to me. I wouldn't pay more than 100 usd for most of the girls at gustos. Not to mention that if a girl isn't objectively ugly sex with a condom feels all the same independent of the girl.
Just like the girls have a 150 usd minimum union we need to also not pay for that. You guys can do what you want with your money but I think 150 usd is insane.
Who is going to gustos and paying that? LOL.Some casa chicas look better than some Gusto chicas and at a fraction of the cost.
I have been with and have known these girls for a long time and would feel safe leaving my wallet out around them. You do have a point though, it would not be a good idea to do this with a pair of girl friends that you picked up in Parque Lleras or Centro the same day.
Please do not do that shit again. That was the perfect scenario for those chicks to lock you outside and be gone with your shit. Always make hookers get undressed first. Besides that I am not about to get into a hot tub with a dude!
A nice regular. Stopped by had fun and then gave me a tour of Comuna 13. 😏.
I just tried to send you a private message WT69 but it said you have chosen not to receive private messages so I'll just copy and paste here what I wanted to ask you:
WorldTraveler69,
Bro would you happen to have any maps for Pasto, Narino? I'm currently in Bogota and seriously considering hopping on a bus to pasto to go check it out like how I have done with Armenia and Villavicencio in the past.
Any map or just telling me what streets and areas to look for street girls would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Gabacho.
P.S: thanks for all your hard work bro, your maps helped me a lot back in the day when I first came to Santa Fe and more recently in places like Cucuta and Armenia.
You never worked while in college? Me personally, I don't come from a wealthy family but when I was their age, my parents covered my basic needs. Food, rent (room, not the whole apartment), tuition. For everything else, like, clothing, new computer, spare money to hang out with friends, etc I had to work summer jobs and gigs. Same shit with these girls. Every time you reply to my posts, you go from one extreme to the other, argue for the sake of arguing.
As to the pool of girls enrolled in university, MDE is 2. 56 million people city, and I'm sure there are THOUSANDS if not tens of thousands college girl. And yes, some of them are willing to sell pussy, either to be able to afford tuition, or earn some spare cash. You call them prostitutes, simply because they "exchange sex for cash or other things of monetary value", and that's fine, maybe they are, but definitely not the same prostitutes selling pussy on the street just to get high after.
Do you support your "gf" financially? Do you buy her gifts? Do you pay for her travel expenses and shit? If so, by your definition, she might as well be a prostitute.The definition of prostitution is exchanging sex for money. That is what will get you arrested in the states in a sting. If you don't mention sex for money they can't charge you with anything. Comparing different quality of prostitutes is another discussion. Go up to an undercover cop in Utah and say how much for nude modeling. You won't get arrested.
ColombiaLover
08-31-23, 04:48
Nice! I'd definitely bang that ass. My type also.
A nice regular. Stopped by had fun and then gave me a tour of Comuna 13. 😏.
To clarify on the airport ATM. If you DECLINE their offered conversion (always do this), you will get your banks own preferred conversion. BUT this specific ATM charges an additional withdrawal fee (I forget exactly, something between 25-30 k or so) for each withdrawal. Not a lot (7 USD), but you won't get that fee at an in-town major ATM. Hence the advice to just withdraw the $100-120 k you need for the cab ride into town and withdraw the rest at an in-town bank ATM.If you are getting the good conversion rate then why not withdraw the max, then you are set for awhile. According to your info, it is a set fee, not a percentage, so why not get the max if you badly need the cop?
DiscoverFL
08-31-23, 12:57
Fun times in Medellin. My brother and I met up with Linda and Daniella to come over to our apartment in Laureles. Linda showed up looking in her usual knock out way an hour earlier so we had a few drinks and enjoyed a little smoke and some drinks. After a hour Daniella showed up looking super-hot too, she is really a tall one coming in at 6 foot 2 inches so yeah you will get some looks walking around with that one.Ahh yes, Daniella is a favorite of mine. If you are fluent in Spanish she is fascinating to talk to, very enjoyable company. Her model-like height makes her a great date if you want to turn heads. We've even hung out without play or pay and she's just fun. She's also a frequent visitor to the mansion during daytime.
I think fantasy will always be part of the game. It improves experiences as long as we don't get caught up in it to the point we lose sight of what is or is not real. When that happens it makes life unnecessarily difficult, expensive, and sometimes even dangerous. Fantasy things I think are sometimes hard to keep in their proper perspective are: the college girl, the "semi-pro," and girlfriend / girlfriend experience.Exactly!
I saw this constantly in the webcam world. In the room of a model who routinely has 700-1000 viewers, there were always 5 or 6 convinced the model loved them, and only them. Years earlier I saw it in the strip clubs.
The fantasy works both ways. A gringo with money plays into a lot of paisa fantasies.
If you are getting the good conversion rate then why not withdraw the max, then you are set for awhile. According to your info, it is a set fee, not a percentage, so why not get the max if you badly need the cop?When I travel I use my Charles Schwab debit card. Reason 1: it refunds me for additional POS fees. I do not know how they can do it without losing money, but they do it. Reason 2: I do not want to have my main account debit card with me, in case of issue they can potentially take a lot of my money. On Charles Schwab, instead, I keep at max 2-3 thousands USD. I keep the other Credit and Debit card in the hotel safe, or hidden somewhere, but not with me unless I need.
Whenever I can I use Davivienda Cajeros. I never had any issue with them.
Confirmed: Always refuse the proposed exchange rate. In Colombia most bank will continue with the transaction with no issue, and Davivienda is one of them. This is not true in other countries, for instance all the 7/11 ATM in Thailand (at least the 10 I tested) refuse the transaction if you do not accept their conversion. Charles Schwab sends me a text with the USD amount in real time, and the exchange rate is always very close to the google online exchange value. The difference is negligible.
Finally, I also uninstall my home banking apps from my phone except for the Charles Schawab one. Why? Well, 2 reasons: (1) If a criminal take me in his custody, he could force me to login my smartphone. If your phone has face recognition, this is extremely easy and you might be even unaware of it (a little bit of benzodiazepine from a girl and you sleep deeply while she scans your face). In these situations, it is better the criminal doesn't know how much money you have and where you keep it. (2) If they have you in custody, and have access to your smartphone, then they have access to the Multi Factor Authentication (txt messages or authentication apps) as well. In this case, they can auto approve all the transaction they want, not just the ATM ones, and you are badly screwed up. If there is a lot of money in your bank, they also have a good justification to make sure you do not try to revoke any transaction once you are free, and this is bad.
I don't think Colombia is so dangerous, but often we are exposed to additional risks and better to adopt passive countermeasure. If they take me, they only see my Charls Schwab account with 3 k USD.
When I travel I use my Charles Schwab debit card. Reason 1: it refunds me for additional POS fees. I do not know how they can do it without losing money, but they do it. Reason 2: I do not want to have my main account debit card with me, in case of issue they can potentially take a lot of my money. On Charles Schwab, instead, I keep at max 2-3 thousands USD. I keep the other Credit and Debit card in the hotel safe, or hidden somewhere, but not with me unless I need.
Whenever I can I use Davivienda Cajeros. I never had any issue with them.
Confirmed: Always refuse the proposed exchange rate. In Colombia most bank will continue with the transaction with no issue, and Davivienda is one of them. This is not true in other countries, for instance all the 7/11 ATM in Thailand (at least the 10 I tested) refuse the transaction if you do not accept their conversion. Charles Schwab sends me a text with the USD amount in real time, and the exchange rate is always very close to the google online exchange value. The difference is negligible.
Finally, I also uninstall my home banking apps from my phone except for the Charles Schawab one. Why? Well, 2 reasons: (1) If a criminal take me in his custody, he could force me to login my smartphone. If your phone has face recognition, this is extremely easy and you might be even unaware of it (a little bit of benzodiazepine from a girl and you sleep deeply while she scans your face)..3 k is a lot to allow criminals to take. 1000 max. The rest in another checking account that isn't on your phone. You can do a transfer between banks if you need to replenish Schwab or you get robbed.
If they take me, they only see my Charls Schwab account with 3 k USD.Do you mean if they force you to give up your PIN, and they see that you have 3 K in there? IMO that would be bad. If your normal limit is 1 K per day, then they might hold you captive until 3 days, until they drain the account.
A better way would be to put 2 K in your brokerage account (or 1k and raise your ATM limit to 2K per day). You were required to open a brokerage account to get the Schwab card. Then you can transfer money into the Schwab bank when necessary. MAKE sure you turn off the overdraft transfer from your brokerage account. Another problem is that you can't transfer money on the weekends.
Wait. I guess that wouldn't work in your description because they have access to the Schwab account. It would list the brokerage account. I take mine off in my second phone. There exchange rates are always good. Just check it in your hotel room.
Mr Enternational
09-01-23, 08:11
Do you mean if they force you to give up your PIN, and they see that you have 3 K in there? IMO that would be bad. If your normal limit is 1 K per day, then they might hold you captive until 3 days, until they drain the account.I am amazed at what some guys worry about. Traveling all over the world and hanging out in some really shady places, I have never been worried about somebody taking me and seeing what is in my bank account. Really be funny if that brother goes no further than Poblado. He acts like he is going on an ultra high risk secret spy mission and needs 8 contingency plans.
I am amazed at what some guys worry about. Traveling all over the world and hanging out in some really shady places, I have never been worried about somebody taking me and seeing what is in my bank account. Really be funny if that brother goes no further than Poblado. He acts like he is going on an ultra high risk secret spy mission and needs 8 contingency plans.Leticia? Fucking nice bro. That's been on my radar for some time too. Are you going to take the river boat to Puerto Nariño?
I've been here for the past 6 weeks. Girl quantity and quality by the pool has varied each day. Seems to come and go. But most guys have enough regulars coming in from the outside. The bar has been the same way. Although I have met more new girls this trip including several who were at the bar for the first time with a friend who brought them to check it out. Going rate is 250-300 K plus tip or extras if you desire. However, one of my girls who a week ago went to the bar for the first time became a regular for me and we would just meet in the bar each night. She told me the other night that when she arrived to sign in, the "administration" told her to charge no less than 300 K and deny no condom requests or they will not be allowed back in. I've always known there is a bit of a "chicka union" in there but really each girl makes her own price. I paid 250 plus tips for two weeks and even had a couple who did anal and swallow. But I've also had girls who asked for 600 K. Needless to say they didn't go home with anyone. The girls in the bar talk a lot and share information. When I met a new black girl for the first time, I hadn't even finished a sentence and she told me that the girls told her "he likes the darker women" LOL.
For those who love a girl who can take it in the ass, I've had no problem this trip. Sometimes it is just heat of the moment. Not something planned. Here's an ass from one that you just know has been fucked a few times. This girl was a blast, squirted twice and swallowed like a good little ****.If it is true that chicas are banding together to pressure other chicas not to accept lower than 300 k AND chicas are agreeing to that then what is the point of the Mansion other than to collect contacts so that you can call her in to your apartment at YOUR rate some other day or night?
I don't understand.
Planning to visit Medellin in Sept 2nd week. I went to Medellin few times so far and it was always a great experience. I stayed in Laureles, San Peters Apartments all of the times and I know the area pretty well. But this time I am planning to stay in El Poblado, can anyone please suggest any girl friendly hotels in that area or Airbnbs that you are aware of, looking for one with a Jacuzzi. If any of you have any questions, feel free to message me and I will be happy to help with all the information. I visited a lot of casas in El Centro (New Life, Zandalay etc. , I also used prepago websites and I know lot of bars in Laureles to pickup girls etc. , Last time (May 2023) I felt that quality came down a lot in the Casas, I guess because of the inflation. But Prepago girls were still a great option for 150 mil pesos mostly. Most of the girls in the Poblado are about 300 mil and La Isla and fase dos were the same as well.
JohnJones22
09-02-23, 01:22
I know a guy who's a "presentador", he basically has access to all of your favorite IG colombian models (we're talking 100 k-1 M followers type of girls) and yes, most of them have a price. Usually lowest price is 1-2 M pesos for a few hours. Hell I've already paid 3 M for a famous IG model and let me tell you it was the best experience of my life. This presentador has offered me chicas up to 10 M pesos, no way would I ever pay that but some businessmen do.
Coming back to the point I wanted to make. A few pages back a few of why'all were talking about "600 k" chicas, (I'm assuming we're not just talking about Seeking girls), where does one find this type of chica? I'm in that inbetween place where I'm willing to spend 600 k for some high quality, not looking for 50 k chicas, and no more paying 3 M for a model because that's not sustainable either. Where do I find the 600 k girls?
I know a guy who's a "presentador", he basically has access to all of your favorite IG colombian models (we're talking 100 k-1 M followers type of girls) and yes, most of them have a price. Usually lowest price is 1-2 M pesos for a few hours. Hell I've already paid 3 M for a famous IG model and let me tell you it was the best experience of my life. This presentador has offered me chicas up to 10 M pesos, no way would I ever pay that but some businessmen do.
Coming back to the point I wanted to make. A few pages back a few of why'all were talking about "600 k" chicas, (I'm assuming we're not just talking about Seeking girls), where does one find this type of chica? I'm in that inbetween place where I'm willing to spend 600 k for some high quality, not looking for 50 k chicas, and no more paying 3 M for a model because that's not sustainable either. Where do I find the 600 k girls?There is no specific place devoted to 600 k girls. Maybe La Isla with their 550 k flat rate + 50 k entrance fee. Seeking, FB, Tinder, etc got all kinds of girls, from ugly to hot, and the rates vary a lot. You can use any platform to search for high quality girls, but it takes time and there is no guarantee they will settle for 600 k. You can also try Instagram, but focus on the chicas that don't have tens of thousands followers, or chicas that look hot but do not model. Just lower your expectations and adjust down what you can offer.
3 k is a lot to allow criminals to take. 1000 max. The rest in another checking account that isn't on your phone. You can do a transfer between banks if you need to replenish Schwab or you get robbed.I agree that $3 k is a lot to take, but note that the FDIC insures this iup to $250 k per account. As someone who was scolped last November (by a 'non pro on 3rd date') no less, and had $25 k taken from me between credit cards and bank accounts, Charles Schwab and Chase were iron clad and stand up. Citibank not so much. I was eventually made completely whole, but some banks I found better than others.
BTW. I take no pride in sharing this. I'm just making it know that it does happen, even to those of us who have been in the hobby for 10+ years and take normal precautions (ie locking things up). Shit happens. Keep your guard up gentlemen!
KilledSoul
09-02-23, 03:30
I know a guy who's a "presentador", he basically has access to all of your favorite IG colombian models (we're talking 100 k-1 M followers type of girls) and yes, most of them have a price. Usually lowest price is 1-2 M pesos for a few hours. Hell I've already paid 3 M for a famous IG model and let me tell you it was the best experience of my life. This presentador has offered me chicas up to 10 M pesos, no way would I ever pay that but some businessmen do.
How does one go finding such a presentador? Any pointers would be great help.
How does one go finding such a presentador? Any pointers would be great help.I have to see it to believe it. I talked to a guy one time at lleras that had a bunch of girls on his phone. One of the girls I knew personally. These girls weren't advertising or in the streets in the clubs or in spas. These were "semi pros" I guess all on instagram the followings weren't that big.
I feel like people charging that much is a scam. Like I've never seen a nine irl. And even if I have a nine with s condom feels the same a 5 with a condom.
It couldn't possibly be true that if you pay that much you will get a better experience equivalent to how much more you paid.
I would only pay that much if I knew the girl was only doing me and were in like a sd / sb situation. Like 10 mil a month.
Anyone can hook a brother up with a photo of their US passport entry stamp for Colombia within the last 90 days? Not asking for sensitive information just a photo of the entry stamp to save me 20% tax on my accommodations. ID be really grateful.
She is quite the woman and has it all personality, intelligence, classy, flirty and great in bed. She told me that she went to school to be a librarian so I asked her to wear her glasses next time and she complied. My brother and I are in Cartagena right now but when we get back to Medellin, Daniella will be at the top of the list.
Ahh yes, Daniella is a favorite of mine. If you are fluent in Spanish she is fascinating to talk to, very enjoyable company. Her model-like height makes her a great date if you want to turn heads. We've even hung out without play or pay and she's just fun. She's also a frequent visitor to the mansion during daytime.
JohnJones22
09-02-23, 15:47
Wow, Linda is a knockout! Lucky you. Where would I go about finding her? Does she also hang around mansion during the daytime?
Fun times in Medellin. My brother and I met up with Linda and Daniella to come over to our apartment in Laureles. Linda showed up looking in her usual knock out way an hour earlier so we had a few drinks and enjoyed a little smoke and some drinks. After a hour Daniella showed up looking super-hot too, she is really a tall one coming in at 6 foot 2 inches so yeah you will get some looks walking around with that one.
We head out to Taqueria Cuernavaca in Laureles and when we got there was a huge line and waiting list so Linda suggested La Pampa Argentinian Steakhouse. We got over there and was able to get a good table. So, we are having some conversation and Linda starts smoking some pot right there at the table. So, I turn to her and tell her that she probably shouldn't be doing that and she say "no se precupes, Daniella estas fumando su cigarro electronica". I'm like thinking we were going to get kicked out of the place but everything went well.
After dinner we head back to our AirBnB we pour some Cuba Libre's and we show the girls the Hot Tub out on our back patio. We started to coach the girls to get naked and jump in and they say you guys get in first. About 2 seconds later my brother and I were in the Hot Tub and were like on chicas, you have way too many clothes on. With a little more coaching the clothes started to drop off and before we knew it, they were in the tub with us. We had some drinks, talked, and played around a little and of course it was a great photo opportunity. I figure when we are 90, in our wheel chairs these pictures will bring back great memories..
John Gault
09-02-23, 17:04
No one has mentioned the weather in MDE. *.
I have been coming here since 2010 and it has never been this hot. I normally hate air conditioner's but now it is a must here now.
Anyway while taking my normal walk in Centro I was given a card for*.
Barcelona Casa CR 47 53-42. It was early in the day and I had not taken a shower yet. I would never take a girl in that state but I thought I could just go to check out the talent and pay the viewing fee and return later if someone strikes my fancy. The sign said 5 K fee if you did not partake in the festivities. I bought a water for 3 K and watched about 10 girls parade for me. 4 were very doable { *a 7 is my standard }. Before I* left I found out the fee for one hour is 70 K. I was very surprised as the lowest I have seen is 80 k and most others are 90 K for the hour. I did not ask about 30 minutes as I'm a hour guy. I guess buying a drink is good as was not asked for the 5 K fee as I went my way.
Please boys stop begging to pay 600 K. You guys are starting to blow my mind.
PigSavinBoy
09-02-23, 18:11
I did not ask about 30 minutes as I'm a hour guy. 30 min is 50 mil there. Good to hear they improved the lineup.
Carrera 47 #53-42....
Barcelona is the name used for many years by the place in Pardo that specialized in somewhat older ladies. The address on the card you got is I believe recently known as Zaza. When it comes to Centro casas, street addresses have meaning and names don't. If I'm not mistaken what's now known as Barcelona is the place across the street from the theater that famously has or had an orange colored bead curtain at its entrance. Is that the place?
No one has mentioned the weather in MDE. *.
I have been coming here since 2010 and it has never been this hot. I normally hate air conditioner's but now it is a must here now.
Anyway while taking my normal walk in Centro I was given a card for*.
Barcelona Casa CR 47 53-42. It was early in the day and I had not taken a shower yet. I would never take a girl in that state but I thought I could just go to check out the talent and pay the viewing fee and return later if someone strikes my fancy. The sign said 5 K fee if you did not partake in the festivities. I bought a water for 3 K and watched about 10 girls parade for me. 4 were very doable { *a 7 is my standard }. Before I* left I found out the fee for one hour is 70 K. I was very surprised as the lowest I have seen is 80 k and most others are 90 K for the hour. I did not ask about 30 minutes as I'm a hour guy. I guess buying a drink is good as was not asked for the 5 K fee as I went my way..
Summertime weather is hotter worldwide. I don't agree air conditioning is necessary. If you are on a lower floor or you don't have much shade you will be more comfortable with air conditioning during the mid afternoon.
On the subject of high six figure prepagos I firmly believe there isn't much rhyme or reason to it, especially once you get away from the high and low extremes of provider quality. What I find entertaining is some of the wacky justifications guys come up with for what we pay. Sometimes it goes to dark places when personal attacks and insults get tossed around. Mention of girls who work both Parque Lleras and Plaza Botero seems to be a trigger. I think it helps ward off the negative aspects of aging if we try to keep an open mind about other perspectives. Even though I am an affirmed Centro rat I dip my toe into the high end waters on a regular basis to make sure I'm not missing out on anything and to maintain a fresh frame of reference. I feel like it's my version of casino gambling. The odds are against a big breakthrough score but it's fun to play the bets.
No one has mentioned the weather in MDE. *.
I have been coming here since 2010 and it has never been this hot. I normally hate air conditioner's but now it is a must here now.
Anyway while taking my normal walk in Centro I was given a card for*.
Barcelona Casa CR 47 53-42. It was early in the day and I had not taken a shower yet. I would never take a girl in that state but I thought I could just go to check out the talent and pay the viewing fee and return later if someone strikes my fancy. The sign said 5 K fee if you did not partake in the festivities. I bought a water for 3 K and watched about 10 girls parade for me. 4 were very doable { *a 7 is my standard }. Before I* left I found out the fee for one hour is 70 K. I was very surprised as the lowest I have seen is 80 k and most others are 90 K for the hour. I did not ask about 30 minutes as I'm a hour guy. I guess buying a drink is good as was not asked for the 5 K fee as I went my way.
Please boys stop begging to pay 600 K. You guys are starting to blow my mind.
When I travel I use my Charles Schwab debit card. Reason 1: it refunds me for additional POS fees. I do not know how they can do it without losing money, but they do it. Reason 2: I do not want to have my main account debit card with me, in case of issue they can potentially take a lot of my money. On Charles Schwab, instead, I keep at max 2-3 thousands USD. I keep the other Credit and Debit card in the hotel safe, or hidden somewhere.They know you have more money. Best you keep all your money in your main acct and easily accessible. This is so that you can give it all to your kidnappers without delay. Otherwise they will start chopping your fingers off one by one and posting them home. As we speak I am typing this with my remaining 3 toes. Its a struggle, I tell you.
ElSexoChino7
09-02-23, 22:41
No one has mentioned the weather in MDE.
I have been coming here since 2010 and it has never been this hot. I normally hate air conditioner's but now it is a must here now.
I was just looking at Airbnb's and most of them don't have AC wtf is that? Finally found one after 3 hours of looking and it's guest friendly with awesome reviews.
Haven't posted in awhile but I did want to say, the last few times I've visited the casas and / or El Centro in general, the talent has fallen off noticeably since the pandemic. Some places have closed, there are less girls working, and the ones around don't look as good. Last time I was at a casa was about a month ago. It used to be, I would always see 1 or 2 newbies or raw talent, but that hasn't been the case for awhile now. That has been my experience. At the same time, it seems like there has been an explosion in the webcam and online stuff. Also seeing more Venezolanas and less quality Paisas.
I was just looking at Airbnb's and most of them don't have AC wtf is that? Finally found one after 3 hours of looking and it's guest friendly with awesome reviews.I heard it's like a heat wave happening till Feb. Next year. Don't know *shrugs* I'm in Bogota and it never passes 70 degrees here. Going to Medellin next month just booked a nice studio for 550 a month in laureles until the end of the year that's modern with ac. I wish you guys luck in this heat.
Mr Enternational
09-03-23, 05:15
Haven't posted in awhile but I did want to say, the last few times I've visited the casas and / or El Centro in general, the talent has fallen off noticeably since the pandemic. Some places have closed, there are less girls working, and the ones around don't look as good. Last time I was at a casa was about a month ago. It used to be, I would always see 1 or 2 newbies or raw talent, but that hasn't been the case for awhile now. That has been my experience. At the same time, it seems like there has been an explosion in the webcam and online stuff. Also seeing more Venezolanas and less quality Paisas.There is a saying that when one loses a job, they usually find a better one. The chicks have probably moved on to better shit since there was no money to be made from casas during the pandemic. Sometimes calamities improve people's lives because it throws them out of the complacency they had with a previous job.
Haven't posted in awhile but I did want to say, the last few times I've visited the casas and / or El Centro in general, the talent has fallen off noticeably since the pandemic. Some places have closed, there are less girls working, and the ones around don't look as good. Last time I was at a casa was about a month ago. It used to be, I would always see 1 or 2 newbies or raw talent, but that hasn't been the case for awhile now. That has been my experience. At the same time, it seems like there has been an explosion in the webcam and online stuff. Also seeing more Venezolanas and less quality Paisas.Mde not as poor anymore I guess. And the Venezuelans are going to Bogota I think.
In terms of cams I don't think so. Not on Streamate at least I have to keep tabs on chaturbate and strip chat and live Jasmin. My experience is that more girls are leaving the cam business than not. I had one cam girl from Armenia that I'm meeting up with with later this year who is now doing full time university instead of camming. Don't know where she getting the money for that. I have another cam girl from Cali that went from being a cam girl to being one of the moderators for cam girls. Maybe she wasn't getting enough money? I have another one that stopped camming for a month because personal issues but she's down to go to guatape with me. And not to mention the handful of other girls I've known that aren't doing it anymore.
Also girls go to where the money is and they usually start doing p4 p because of what friends tell them. With the massive influx of foreigners to Medellin more girls moving to poblado / lleras and not doing centro. I had one girl who used to work out of a casa in Itagui. Used to call her to my place near lleras everyday. I get back to Mde recently like last month and turns out her whole casa was moved super close to lleras. I'm guessing all the centro girl permanently moved to lleras as well.
It might be that economic conditions have improved so girls aren't into obvios p4 p street action. People have been mentioning that prices have increased even if ever so slightly.
Also it doesn't help that the exchange rate was close to 5 k at one point and so because if the excess pesos coming in places that attracted foreigners increased prices like Loutron and la isla while places for locals like centro have stayed the same. Girls go to where the money is. The less they fuck for more money the better so they are more attracted to these higher end places. Take gustos for example. There's a girl union basically saying not to go under 150 usd. That basically sucked up all the talent that was in lleras above a certain caliber up and into gustos.
Overall, these girls haven't died. We just have to figure out where they went, are they willing to p4 p,and how much are they willing to accept.
BartSimpson5
09-03-23, 06:14
Fun times in Medellin. My brother and I met up with Linda and Daniella to come over to our apartment in Laureles. Linda showed up looking in her usual knock out way an hour earlier so we had a few drinks and enjoyed a little smoke and some drinks. After a hour Daniella showed up looking super-hot too, she is really a tall one coming in at 6 foot 2 inches so yeah you will get some looks walking around with that one.
We head out to Taqueria Cuernavaca in Laureles and when we got there was a huge line and waiting list so Linda suggested La Pampa Argentinian Steakhouse. We got over there and was able to get a good table. So, we are having some conversation and Linda starts smoking some pot right there at the table. So, I turn to her and tell her that she probably shouldn't be doing that and she say "no se precupes, Daniella estas fumando su cigarro electronica". I'm like thinking we were going to get kicked out of the place but everything went well.
After dinner we head back to our AirBnB we pour some Cuba Libre's and we show the girls the Hot Tub out on our back patio. We started to coach the girls to get naked and jump in and they say you guys get in first. About 2 seconds later my brother and I were in the Hot Tub and were like on chicas, you have way too many clothes on. With a little more coaching the clothes started to drop off and before we knew it, they were in the tub with us. We had some drinks, talked, and played around a little and of course it was a great photo opportunity. I figure when we are 90, in our wheel chairs these pictures will bring back great memories.
After the Hot Tub Linda, lights one up and we partake for a little bit and then off to the bedroom and jump in bed. First, she starts massaging me a little bit and then starts kissing her way down and begins a great BBBJ. She is quite talented in this procedure and was driving me nuts as always. I had a real ripper going at this point and then she starts mounting me in reverse cow girl. Watching that ass and pussy riding up and down was giving me that life is good feeling LOL. Then she tells me that she really wants it doggie style, what can I guy do but comply at this point. So, there I am banging that fine ass watching those big titties swaying. I'm doing this for a while and since I had quite a few drinks it was difficult to climax. So, I pull out and lay down and had Linda finish me off with a great oral natural. Damages 4 hours $300,000 plus $50,000 tip.
One of many great nights in Medellin.
Next Report Parque Lleras.Great report! Where did you find Daniella?
BartSimpson5
09-03-23, 06:41
Planning to visit Medellin in Sept 2nd week. I went to Medellin few times so far and it was always a great experience. I stayed in Laureles, San Peters Apartments all of the times and I know the area pretty well. But this time I am planning to stay in El Poblado, can anyone please suggest any girl friendly hotels in that area or Airbnbs that you are aware of, looking for one with a Jacuzzi. If any of you have any questions, feel free to message me and I will be happy to help with all the information. I visited a lot of casas in El Centro (New Life, Zandalay etc. , I also used prepago websites and I know lot of bars in Laureles to pickup girls etc. , Last time (May 2023) I felt that quality came down a lot in the Casas, I guess because of the inflation. But Prepago girls were still a great option for 150 mil pesos mostly. Most of the girls in the Poblado are about 300 mil and La Isla and fase dos were the same as well.Hi, I tried to send you message but it looks like you have PMs blocked. What bars for pick up girls you can recommend in Laureles? Thanks!
I was just looking at Airbnb's and most of them don't have AC wtf is that? Finally found one after 3 hours of looking and it's guest friendly with awesome reviews.Unless the apartment has an extreme exposure to direct sun no AC is needed. In all my trips to Medellin I think it was only hot one time, and that was only around 30 see.
I was just looking at Airbnb's and most of them don't have AC wtf is that? Finally found one after 3 hours of looking and it's guest friendly with awesome reviews.Generally speaking and as a rule of thumb, if your in an Apartment building that is directly west facing with no shade from other buildings, you will want to definitely rent a Unit with AC, especially if your in a higher building. The difference can be like night and day in the same building depending on the direction of the Unit.
Also something you may not of considered is noise. Not all buildings have dual pane or sound reducing windows, especially the older buildings.
Hence you may find a Unit with AC, but because of the surroundings, like a busy road below, the noise can be an issue.
Most of the newer apartment buildings are equipped to have AC units, but they commonly don't exist in the older buildings.
For this reason, most Colombians do not like AC.
May seem odd, but that's the way it is in Medellin.
No one has mentioned the weather in MDE. *.
I have been coming here since 2010 and it has never been this hot. I normally hate air conditioner's but now it is a must here now.
d.Its definitely been hotter than hooker in heater here the past month.
Unfortunately it's global warming, not only here, but everywhere it seems like in the world.
And yes, unless your totally in the shade, AC is a must.
Mde not as poor anymore I guess. With the massive influx of foreigners to Medellin more girls moving to poblado / lleras and not doing centro. Agree. Now I haven't gone to the casas off the beaten path in awhile. I may have to venture out one day because the most notable ones in El Centro are a crap shoot. Long gone are the days of hitting multiple casas in one day for 2 or 3 smashes that were quality. I haven't migrated to the FB stuff yet either. You're right about adapting. I guess I've been spoiled for so long where going to bust a good nutt was as easy and effortless as going to the gym and having a good workout LOL. In and out.
MaddTraveler
09-03-23, 19:17
I agree that $3 k is a lot to take, but note that the FDIC insures this iup to $250 k per account. As someone who was scolped last November (by a 'non pro on 3rd date') no less, and had $25 k taken from me between credit cards and bank accounts, Charles Schwab and Chase were iron clad and stand up. Citibank not so much. I was eventually made completely whole, but some banks I found better than others.
BTW. I take no pride in sharing this. I'm just making it know that it does happen, even to those of us who have been in the hobby for 10+ years and take normal precautions (ie locking things up). Shit happens. Keep your guard up gentlemen!Sorry to hear what happened to you bro. Few years ago dudes getting scolped in Col was a very rare topic, now every day we're reading this incl deaths, so fellas we need to be more diligent. Obviously the Colombian Govt or Police isn't cracking down on it so it's up the us Gringos to find a way to prevent it. I was going to make this post on Best Practices, but I figured I'd reply it to your comment since you mentioned it:
These Rules will keep you alive, keep you from getting drugged or Scolped. Nothing is guarantee but your chances of encountering those issues are highly reduced:
1. Don't get drunk in the bars, clubs, or in the streets alone. If you're with friends it's usually OK.
2. Drugs, drugs, drugs, THIS is a choice that increases your chance of being among troubled chicas (especially if they do drugs also which is many of them). You made your own bed at this point.
3. We've all read about covering our drinks. Not leaving our drinks unattended. This one's on you.
4. Leave the gullible, everything is like a flowery pink paradise, I'm a rich (poor at home) gringo while in Medellin mindset behind.
5. Pretend you're hanging out or passing through the most dangerous hood in the US. Be observant of your surroundings, and you can do this without being paranoid.
6. Have a system. I've read some fellas do not bring girls to their main spot, or have a spare room, some leave their cash or main cellphone in safes, and only be outside with small amounts of cash or 1 credit card, or what they're willing to lose. This is what I do. I use the MotelNow app, which I learned about in a post here; basically lists all the love motels in Col you can use to bring girls for as cheap as 20 k pesos for few hrs. No excuses.
7. This may sound silly, but don't use fingerprints to unlock your phone, I don't know why this was invented bc anyone can drug / dose you and unlock your phone w your finger. Memorize a password duh. Same with your banks and money apps, do not have them auto-login or password saved. Every single person that have had money stolen while drugged is due to those. Come on, technology does make us lazy, and it's ok while at home on our day to day jobs, busy lifestyles. But if we're traveling to very poor countries with aggressive hawkers and gangsters everywhere, of which many wish to melt you for $20 why would you not adjust at least while there? I've worked in IT support and even in the states most consumer hacks / breaches which arent really hacks are due to lazy users or folks that auto-save every password in their browsers, phones, etc. Wives catching cheating husbands, vice and versa for using those features LOL. Yes these Col chicas will drug you and drain your accts so don't make it easy.
8. Stay away from dating apps, or do very very good video interviews. Do not do threesome unless it's with someone you've known for a while.
9. The comment above mentioned he was drugged on the 3rd date. Do yall remember the good ol mongering rule of "DO NOT REPEAT"? It is for this exact reason. Do not repeat dates with hawkers, and investigate better to confirm that they are truly non-pros if they claim to be. What's to stop them from lying? Nothing. So either become really good at it, or just void it. Guys who never repeat dates NEVER get in trouble and this is coming from the real Vets.
10. Best and true non-pros I've met and still experiencing with were not from dating apps. Someone who post an Ad as a gorgeous 20 year old female, seeking to date USA or Foreign Males from 18-90 years old is NOT a non-pro. Why would a normal girl, in college, living w parent, 20 years old with all her life ahead of her, want to be with a 50-90 year old man that barely speaks her language? She's a pro or after money; which will lead to greed and trouble. Yes, we've all read this a Million times that we're a Bank account to them at this point. Now, you could find a more honest one. Let's say a waitress, someone walking in the street or at work that you caught off guard; those interactions are more realistic due to the fact that she didn't target you, or had an Ad to go fishing for opportunities. You instead introduced yourself, asked her out and persuaded her like a real man does. So the internet and all these dating platforms are what's contributing to these problems.
I'm on my way back to Medellin in few days, I will likely stay for a Month or Two, or more since I work remotely LOL. Just broke up / ended things w couple local gfs so I will be in the hunt for new hunnies. I will post in that coming to town section for anyone who want to grab a beer. I'm reading some shit also which is good.
Cheers and be Safe Gentlemen!
the last few times I've visited the casas and / or El Centro in general, the talent has fallen off noticeably since the pandemic. Some places have closed, there are less girls working, and the ones around don't look as good.I'm not saying its always the case, but I think these drops in talent is as much to do with our own pschology as anything else. I hear it said many times that MDE is full of beauties, when the reality is that it isn't. Sure, there are some decent girls but often we get carried away like a kid in a sweet shop. Then after we acclimatise more, we see it more clearly for what it is. Girls dressing to the 9's to try to impress us.
Agree. Now I haven't gone to the casas off the beaten path in awhile. I may have to venture out one day because the most notable ones in El Centro are a crap shoot. Long gone are the days of hitting multiple casas in one day for 2 or 3 smashes that were quality. I haven't migrated to the FB stuff yet either. You're right about adapting. I guess I've been spoiled for so long where going to bust a good nutt was as easy and effortless as going to the gym and having a good workout LOL. In and out.I remember the days when at New Life or Energy I'd have to view the lineup a few times to try the choose from 3 or 4 solid 8/9's in the group. It was really difficult to choose and don't get me started on Abydos.
I remember the days when at New Life or Energy I'd have to view the lineup a few times to try the choose from 3 or 4 solid 8/9's in the group. It was really difficult to choose and don't get me started on Abydos.Yesss! I can relate. Trying to remember multiple names and then one comes out and your brain crashes like a computer. I wonder sometimes why not just give them numbers LOL. There used to be days where you had a good session and still wondered if you picked the right one because there were several smokers.
I'm not saying its always the case, but I think these drops in talent is as much to do with our own pschology as anything else. I hear it said many times that MDE is full of beauties, when the reality is that it isn't. Sure, there are some decent girls but often we get carried away like a kid in a sweet shop. Then after we acclimatise more, we see it more clearly for what it is. Girls dressing to the 9's to try to impress us.As someone that has lived full-time in Meddy for the last 6 plus years, I would say there are a lot of beautiful women here in the general population. But the casas in El Centro have gone downhill.
Today is Sunday so maybe not the best day to judge, but I took a long walk from my place to El Centro. I saw a couple of doable ones around the statutes but there wasn't a lot that caught my eye. The street behind the museum was pretty disgusting. I would have to be with my peeps to want to hang around there. Didn't go into any strip clubs. They are doing construction and simultaneously crowd control around Botero so there are barriers up and other things to control the flow. On the way home, I saw a homeless type dude snatch a shopping bag from an old lady and run off in the Laureles area.
Hi, I tried to send you message but it looks like you have PMs blocked. What bars for pick up girls you can recommend in Laureles? Thanks!Seems like my subscription expired. Try the Medellin sports bar in the evenings, this is the bar in the San peter apartments, there will be 6-7 girls in the evenings. Try the hotel el dorado LA 70 lobby, there will be few girls there. There are couple of couple of bars next to Exito LA 70, one is Angels Bar Salsa why Musica Variada, there are plenty of girls here but you have to pay a bar fee to get the girl to your hotel room.
Also there are lot of prepago girls in the Amoblados La 70 Medellíand (google it), you will find them on the photoprepago website or pasionprepagos. Quality and price wise this is the best option in my opinion. I tried lots of prepago girls without an issue is laureles and it is usually safe. Please don't go out of laureles or el poblado area if you are venturing into prepago girls.
I'm not saying its always the case, but I think these drops in talent is as much to do with our own pschology as anything else. I hear it said many times that MDE is full of beauties, when the reality is that it isn't. Its mostly silicone and plastic surgery.
Staying at the Dann Carlton Hotel. Just wondering if anyone stayed here? Are they girl friendly? Do they charge a fee for guest? Thank you kindly.
StudBucket
09-04-23, 07:08
Hey brothers, I am just posting this so we are all Vigilant and stay safe while visiting Medellin, but the unthinkable happened again:
Just saw this post from a day ago on Facebook, but this FB user below posted that an American was found dead in a hotel room due to being Scoped by a girl here. What is strange is that the hotel was not aware for 3 days he was dead. How on Earth did security let her slip out? I stay at the Royal Du Parc Hotel and security is very tight, with girls being required to furnish ID and me getting a call asking if everything is okay before she is allowed to leave the premises.
Here is the FB link:
https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=shawn%20smith%20pickett
Here is copy of the post:
Medellin Expats.
Posted by :Shawn Smith Pickett .
1 d.
It just keeps happening. Another American found dead in his hotel room yesterday In Medelland after visiting Parque Lleras. The 44 year old was found unconscious in his room after hotel staff had not seen him for three days. He was unconscious when they found him but later died. Foreigners who come here to party need to know by now those working girls would love to be doing anything other than working the streets and entertaining 55 year old gringos. They do it because they are either out of options economically and need to feed their kids or at the direction of a boyfriend. No you are not that cool. No You are not that attractive No they don't want to come to America. They want to clean your pockets Take as much money as they can from You and move on to the next as quickly as possible. If that means drugging you and getting away with even more and not having to entertain You some certainly will. The girls certainly are not Pharmacists so they are just guessing how much Scope to use. This is mostly directed at the self described Passport Bros who see the glam and glitter of Medelland on You tube and head over with 6 months of saved up cash and throw it around Lleras like a baller. You better save some of that cash for a transport back home in a casket. They will shoot you here for a I phone. Sorry and sad my fellow American lost his life in Such a beautiful country but Medelland is not Las Vegas.
Sorry to hear what happened to you bro. Few years ago dudes getting scolped in Col was a very rare topic, now every day we're reading this incl deaths, so fellas we need to be more diligent. Obviously the Colombian Govt or Police isn't cracking down on it so it's up the us Gringos to find a way to prevent it. I was going to make this post on Best Practices, but I figured I'd reply it to your comment since you mentioned it:
These Rules will keep you alive, keep you from getting drugged or Scolped. Nothing is guarantee but your chances of encountering those issues are highly reduced:
1. Don't get drunk in the bars, clubs, or in the streets alone. If you're with friends it's usually OK.
2. Drugs, drugs, drugs, THIS is a choice that increases your chance of being among troubled chicas (especially if they do drugs also which is many of them). You made your own bed at this point.
3. We've all read about covering our drinks. Not leaving our drinks unattended. This one's on you.
4. Leave the gullible, everything is like a flowery pink paradise, I'm a rich (poor at home) gringo while in Medellin mindset behind.
5. Pretend you're hanging out or passing through the most dangerous hood in the US. Be observant of your surroundings, and you can do this without being paranoid.
6. Have a system. I've read some fellas do not bring girls to their main spot, or have a spare room, some leave their cash or main cellphone in safes, and only be outside with small amounts of cash or 1 credit card, or what they're willing to lose. This is what I do. I use the MotelNow app, which I learned about in a post here; basically lists all the love motels in Col you can use to bring girls for as cheap as 20 k pesos for few hrs. No excuses.
7. This may sound silly, but don't use fingerprints to unlock your phone, I don't know why this was invented bc anyone can drug / dose you and unlock your phone w your finger. Memorize a password duh. Same with your banks and money apps, do not have them auto-login or password saved. Every single person that have had money stolen while drugged is due to those. Come on, technology does make us lazy, and it's ok while at home on our day to day jobs, busy lifestyles. But if we're traveling to very poor countries with aggressive hawkers and gangsters everywhere, of which many wish to melt you for $20 why would you not adjust at least while there? I've worked in IT support and even in the states most consumer hacks / breaches which arent really hacks are due to lazy users or folks that auto-save every password in their browsers, phones, etc. Wives catching cheating husbands, vice and versa for using those features LOL. Yes these Col chicas will drug you and drain your accts so don't make it easy.
8. Stay away from dating apps, or do very very good video interviews. Do not do threesome unless it's with someone you've known for a while.
9. The comment above mentioned he was drugged on the 3rd date. Do yall remember the good ol mongering rule of "DO NOT REPEAT"? It is for this exact reason. Do not repeat dates with hawkers, and investigate better to confirm that they are truly non-pros if they claim to be. What's to stop them from lying? Nothing. So either become really good at it, or just void it. Guys who never repeat dates NEVER get in trouble and this is coming from the real Vets.
10. Best and true non-pros I've met and still experiencing with were not from dating apps. Someone who post an Ad as a gorgeous 20 year old female, seeking to date USA or Foreign Males from 18-90 years old is NOT a non-pro. Why would a normal girl, in college, living w parent, 20 years old with all her life ahead of her, want to be with a 50-90 year old man that barely speaks her language? She's a pro or after money; which will lead to greed and trouble. Yes, we've all read this a Million times that we're a Bank account to them at this point. Now, you could find a more honest one. Let's say a waitress, someone walking in the street or at work that you caught off guard; those interactions are more realistic due to the fact that she didn't target you, or had an Ad to go fishing for opportunities. You instead introduced yourself, asked her out and persuaded her like a real man does. So the internet and all these dating platforms are what's contributing to these problems.
I'm on my way back to Medellin in few days, I will likely stay for a Month or Two, or more since I work remotely LOL. Just broke up / ended things w couple local gfs so I will be in the hunt for new hunnies. I will post in that coming to town section for anyone who want to grab a beer. I'm reading some shit also which is good.
Cheers and be Safe Gentlemen!Pretty good, except #9 is garbage.
Most of the drugging that gets reported happens on the first date.
Whether it's the first or the fifth, you should still take the same precautions.
This board is mainly for useless banter, rarely does someone post actual trip report.
Medellin is indeed very hot this year, during my visit in Aug, this year, it was 31 degrees every day. No way on earth I could have stayed in Medellin without an AC. All of South America is quite hot this winter.
Barcelona Casa seems like interesting find. Which case is it closest to?
No one has mentioned the weather in MDE. *.
I have been coming here since 2010 and it has never been this hot. I normally hate air conditioner's but now it is a must here now.
Anyway while taking my normal walk in Centro I was given a card for*.
Barcelona Casa CR 47 53-42. It was early in the day and I had not taken a shower yet. I would never take a girl in that state but I thought I could just go to check out the talent and pay the viewing fee and return later if someone strikes my fancy. The sign said 5 K fee if you did not partake in the festivities. I bought a water for 3 K and watched about 10 girls parade for me. 4 were very doable { *a 7 is my standard }. Before I* left I found out the fee for one hour is 70 K. I was very surprised as the lowest I have seen is 80 k and most others are 90 K for the hour. I did not ask about 30 minutes as I'm a hour guy. I guess buying a drink is good as was not asked for the 5 K fee as I went my way.
Please boys stop begging to pay 600 K. You guys are starting to blow my mind.
StudPlayer
09-04-23, 14:56
Does anyone else find the most interesting aspect of this news is that there seems to be no other mention of this anywhere else online?
If anyone has any other link to this news, post it.
Not seeing another word about this news has to make you wonder how many other similar incidents are unknown.
You can estimate the problem is at least twice as bad as it appears.
Read my recent post in Colombia general information and be careful.
Colombia has gone to hell. Can't believe so many are risking their lives for a little stanky.
Take it from a long term resident, it is fucking dangerous here now, real dangerous.
Everyone knows it even the USA Government knows it. Read their state department advisory now for Colombia.
It is no bullshit.
Hey brothers, I am just posting this so we are all Vigilant and stay safe while visiting Medellin, but the unthinkable happened again:
Just saw this post from a day ago on Facebook, but this FB user below posted that an American was found dead in a hotel room due to being Scoped by a girl here. What is strange is that the hotel was not aware for 3 days he was dead. How on Earth did security let her slip out? I stay at the Royal Du Parc Hotel and security is very tight, with girls being required to furnish ID and me getting a call asking if everything is okay before she is allowed to leave the premises.
Here is the FB link:
https://www.facebook.com/search/top?q=shawn%20smith%20pickett
Here is copy of the post:
Medellin Expats..
Does anyone else find the most interesting aspect of this news is that there seems to be no other mention of this anywhere else online?
If anyone has any other link to this news, post it.
Not seeing another word about this news has to make you wonder how many other similar incidents are unknown.
You can estimate the problem is at least twice as bad as it appears.
I don't find that interesting. It's pretty well known that a lot of these guys are married and don't want people to know what happened, too cool and don't want their people to know and / or just too embarrassed or just don't have the time or interest to make anything out of it. I know guys that have been drugged and robbed and still continue to come to Medellin. At this point, I think dudes just charge it to the game and are willing to take the risk.
John Gault
09-04-23, 16:36
This board is mainly for useless banter, rarely does someone post actual trip report.
Medellin is indeed very hot this year, during my visit in Aug, this year, it was 31 degrees every day. No way on earth I could have stayed in Medellin without an AC. All of South America is quite hot this winter.
Barcelona Casa seems like interesting find. Which case is it closest to?There are at least 4 casas within a 5 minute walk of Barcelona. Excuse my spelling Zandly, Sexy Amicas are the best ones.
Staying at the Dann Carlton Hotel. Just wondering if anyone stayed here? Are they girl friendly? Do they charge a fee for guest? Thank you kindly.Yes, guest friendly. Your guest needs a Cedula. If you booked the stay for 2 people, they won't charge you extra. Don't know what happens if you booked for 1 person.
Does anyone else find the most interesting aspect of this news is that there seems to be no other mention of this anywhere else online?
If anyone has any other link to this news, post it.
Not seeing another word about this news has to make you wonder how many other similar incidents are unknown.
You can estimate the problem is at least twice as bad as it appears.
Read my recent post in Colombia general information and be careful.
Colombia has gone to hell. Can't believe so many are risking their lives for a little stanky.
Take it from a long term resident, it is fucking dangerous here now, real dangerous.
Everyone knows it even the USA Government knows it. Read their state department advisory now for Colombia.
It is no bullshit.It's always been dangerous here, however I don't think Colombia has gone to hell and become a lot more dangerous over the past decade.
And I think that a large percentage of the guys who get jacked up could of avoided the situation if they had been more cautious, albeit a lot of times are thinking with their little heads when going with Chicas.
And I agree with you that guys getting jacked up is way more prevalent than reported, but again believe getting jacked up can be reduced if using some common sense and taking precautionary measures when going with Chicas as has been suggested by other posters.
Unfortunately you can never let your guard down here as you can get jacked up when you least expect it.
Under various names, that casa has been reported on for more than 10 years in this forum. Like all the others the quality has its ups and downs. Worldwide temperatures are rising, oh well.
This board is mainly for useless banter, rarely does someone post actual trip report.
Medellin is indeed very hot this year, during my visit in Aug, this year, it was 31 degrees every day. No way on earth I could have stayed in Medellin without an AC. All of South America is quite hot this winter.
Barcelona Casa seems like interesting find. Which case is it closest to?
Almost daily 4 PM rainstorms are about to begin. That will be the end of the heat wave until late December. I was in Milla de Oro a couple of nights last week. There are a lot more foreign tourists coming here these days than I remember.
Its definitely been hotter than hooker in heater here the past month.
Unfortunately it's global warming, not only here, but everywhere it seems like in the world.
And yes, unless your totally in the shade, AC is a must.
StudBucket
09-04-23, 17:55
Does anyone else find the most interesting aspect of this news is that there seems to be no other mention of this anywhere else online?
If anyone has any other link to this news, post it.
Not seeing another word about this news has to make you wonder how many other similar incidents are unknown.
You can estimate the problem is at least twice as bad as it appears.
Read my recent post in Colombia general information and be careful.
Colombia has gone to hell. Can't believe so many are risking their lives for a little stanky.
Take it from a long term resident, it is fucking dangerous here now, real dangerous.
Everyone knows it even the USA Government knows it. Read their state department advisory now for Colombia.
It is no bullshit.Here is a post I found on You Tube about it. It does not say he was scoped unitl they do autopsy, of course, but from all indications, a 44 year old man FJ Martin went missing several days ago and was found dead in his room points to scoping. Again, this is not my opinion, I am just posting the information. I suppose when they gather more facts and do autopsy, then more news will be posted online.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLZCh7F1jlA
This board is mainly for useless banter, rarely does someone post actual trip report.
Medellin is indeed very hot this year, during my visit in Aug, this year, it was 31 degrees every day. No way on earth I could have stayed in Medellin without an AC. All of South America is quite hot this winter.
Barcelona Casa seems like interesting find. Which case is it closest to?31° isn't particularly hot, especially with the low humidity and the altitude. Of course it depends on what you're acclimated to.
Although these days air conditioning is usually a feature in the places where I stay, I had no issues at all in August without air conditioning. By 9 pm every night, temperature drops to 16-18° see, perfect for sleeping.
As a bonus, for those who stay in Laureles or other western areas, every afternoon there's a strong breeze coming down the mountain. It does an excellent job of keeping the temperature bearable.
Medellin is indeed very hot this year, during my visit in Aug, this year, it was 31 degrees every day. No way on earth I could have stayed in Medellin without an AC. All of South America is quite hot this winter.
FWIW it's technically Summer in Medellin now (all of Colombia is north of the Equator). It's winter in (most of) Brasil, Argentina, Chili, Paraguay. Those countries are all or for the most part South of the Equator.
Does anyone else find the most interesting aspect of this news is that there seems to be no other mention of this anywhere else online?
If anyone has any other link to this news, post it.
Not seeing another word about this news has to make you wonder how many other similar incidents are unknown.
You can estimate the problem is at least twice as bad as it appears.
Read my recent post in Colombia general information and be careful.
Colombia has gone to hell. Can't believe so many are risking their lives for a little stanky.
Take it from a long term resident, it is fucking dangerous here now, real dangerous.
Everyone knows it even the USA Government knows it. Read their state department advisory now for Colombia.
It is no bullshit.It's been covered here extensively why many guys won't report when something bad happens to them. There's a certain amount of embarrassment, because afterwards you ask yourself "why didn't I see that coming?" You let your guard down, or get distracted at the wrong time and you find yourself the victim.
For at least the last 10 years the State Department has had a warning about visiting Colombia. It's always been dangerous, not much has changed. Drugging and robbing guys has been around for at least that long. Not many years ago they officially ended a 50 year Civil War, although there are still groups fighting in remote areas. The drug trade has always added risks. Toss in corruption and poverty and there are going to be risks.
If it's so dangerous, why are you just now saying something about it and planning to leave? It didn't suddenly become dangerous last week. If I'm ever someplace where "I can't believe so many are risking their lives", I'm on the next plane out. If that means abandoning everything I own, so be it. Ain't no piece of furniture worth more than my life. At least not to me. I'm sure there are guys here who would gladly trade my life for a decent recliner.
Most risks are manageable. Most of the guys here manage the risks quite well.
The talent evaporated.
New Life: Was my go to but on this trip there's a ton of fatties / grandmas and only like 3-4 girls who aren't who are usually taken.
Dulce: Lots of fatties here as well, maybe like one or two girls who are okay.
Club Sexy Amigas: I went there in the morning and there was only one girl available. Other girls went in and out with robes and a few girls were just getting in but all of them were flat as a pancake (not fat though). I'll probably go check it out one or two more times to see if I just got really unlucky.
Over the past few. Years, I've gotten at least like five or so 7's to 9's to choose from. This trip seems like a dud. The only girls that seem semi worth it are the girls I have on dial (from previous casa trips) but they are flaky and usually requires 4-8 hours. Where are all the hot girls hiding in centro? Anyone know of any decent casas in centro?
MaddTraveler
09-04-23, 21:05
Here is a post I found on You Tube about it. It does not say he was scoped unitl they do autopsy, of course, but from all indications, a 44 year old man FJ Martin went missing several days ago and was found dead in his room points to scoping. Again, this is not my opinion, I am just posting the information. I suppose when they gather more facts and do autopsy, then more news will be posted online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLZCh7F1jlAThat's why I made that post earlier about this.
The Scopolamine we used to read about was basically to rob the gringo where he'd wake up later and had zero knowledge of what he's done. Pretty much sounded like an hypnosis. Maybe a special dosage or recipe from Col which became even an urban myth. Like a zombie drug LOL. But lately it seem whatever drug or special mix they're using is actually killing tourists. Perhaps it's related to the protests in medellin that they hate tourists, they want us to leave since we've inflated many aspects of their local economy there? Pretty extreme. Dangerous nowadays.
If in Col I'd def stay away from main tourist spots since last reports confirm dudes were targetted from El Poblado specifically beside the typical Tinder type apps.
Be careful out there.
MaddTraveler
09-04-23, 21:26
I found a nice Apt in Beléand, Malibu, and it's in a strato 5 area / upscale part of Medellin. Since this maybe long-term is anyone here familiar with that area? In terms of nightlife of course for adult clubs and casas? I can find the food and Exitos by myself or use Rappi LOL. I don't want to take an uber for 30 min each time to go toward New Life in la Candelaria area.
With all these reports on scoping and the quality at the clubs down, there is no reason to go to Colombia over Brazil. Brazilian girls are better in every way.
Where are all the hot girls hiding ?Too fat, too thin, too ugly, too old, too young, too expensive, too cheap, too dangerous, too hot, too polluted, too socialist. No way am I going there.
The talent evaporated.
New Life: Was my go to but on this trip there's a ton of fatties / grandmas and only like 3-4 girls who aren't who are usually taken.
Dulce: Lots of fatties here as well, maybe like one or two girls who are okay.
Club Sexy Amigas: I went there in the morning and there was only one girl available. Other girls went in and out with robes and a few girls were just getting in but all of them were flat as a pancake (not fat though). I'll probably go check it out one or two more times to see if I just got really unlucky.
Over the past few. Years, I've gotten at least like five or so 7's to 9's to choose from. This trip seems like a dud. The only girls that seem semi worth it are the girls I have on dial (from previous casa trips) but they are flaky and usually requires 4-8 hours. Where are all the hot girls hiding in centro? Anyone know of any decent casas in centro?They figure they can make more money giving outcalls to gringos and strolling parque lleras. The 7-9's have moved on to Europe and Mexico there is a serious talent drain in Colombia.
MaddTraveler
09-05-23, 05:23
With all these reports on scoping and the quality at the clubs down, there is no reason to go to Colombia over Brazil. Brazilian girls are better in every way.Been there before? Met a Brazilian girl the other day in the states, in her 30's so very mature, business owner. She said her and family who recently moved to the US will never go back to Brazil since it is the most dangerous country in South America. I actually believe it since many news reports confirm that. The level of violence in Brazil are things you only see in movies, and Colombia is no where near that bad, so think again LOL.
She said you could be in a Taxi right out of the airport, and moto gangster will drive by the taxi w guns and rob you and the driver while you're at a stop light. In fact not only she broke it down to me, I also read and watched many taxi drivers now enhenced their cars to be bullet proof LOL. Yeah I know, I laughed also thinking it couldn't be that bad it is. You have drivers with bullet proof cars so that they can transport the tourist in peace from the Airport or around. I think once you're in the city and blend in and no one knows you then it's fine. But I hear both Rio and Sau Paulo we should stay away from. I'm still going to go, just sharing a story.
That kind of stuff make Colombia look ok still. If we control our little head in our pants for the most part we'll be alright in Col.
With all these reports on scoping and the quality at the clubs down, there is no reason to go to Colombia over Brazil. Brazilian girls are better in every way.Here are 2 reasons to go to Colombia over Brazil.
1. At least for me, flights are much cheaper and shorter to Colombia.
2. Spanish is a useful language in almost every country in Central and South America and the Caribbean, as well as Spain.
I've been told by people who I trust that Brazil is much better, but when the quality in the clubs and the scoping incidents generally don't concern me, and when I have excellent reasons to return to Colombia, it's not an easy sell.
GeorgeCarta22
09-05-23, 13:12
Almost daily 4 PM rainstorms are about to begin. That will be the end of the heat wave until late December. I was in Milla de Oro a couple of nights last week. There are a lot more foreign tourists coming here these days than I remember.When does the rainy season end? I plan on going early November.
I am curious if any seasoned MDE travelers know of another similar place to the Mansion? Or a similar bar that caters to international visitors? Seems like there's room in the market for another one.
December, sorry I did not write more clearly.
When does the rainy season end? I plan on going early November.
Try Aventura and let us know how you make out. There is also a place next to Energy that accepts walk ins and books appointments on mileroticos etc. You might enjoy the Ellas Eroticas locations. All are searchable on this forum or elsewhere on the Internet. Enjoy your visit.
The talent evaporated.
New Life: Was my go to but on this trip there's a ton of fatties / grandmas and only like 3-4 girls who aren't who are usually taken.
Dulce: Lots of fatties here as well, maybe like one or two girls who are okay.
Club Sexy Amigas: I went there in the morning and there was only one girl available. Other girls went in and out with robes and a few girls were just getting in but all of them were flat as a pancake (not fat though). I'll probably go check it out one or two more times to see if I just got really unlucky.
Over the past few. Years, I've gotten at least like five or so 7's to 9's to choose from. This trip seems like a dud. The only girls that seem semi worth it are the girls I have on dial (from previous casa trips) but they are flaky and usually requires 4-8 hours. Where are all the hot girls hiding in centro? Anyone know of any decent casas in centro?
They figure they can make more money giving outcalls to gringos and strolling parque lleras. The 7-9's have moved on to Europe and Mexico there is a serious talent drain in Colombia.Where can we find these top tier girls in Mexico?
Here are 2 reasons to go to Colombia over Brazil.
1. At least for me, flights are much cheaper and shorter to Colombia.
2. Spanish is a useful language in almost every country in Central and South America and the Caribbean, as well as Spain.
I've been told by people who I trust that Brazil is much better, but when the quality in the clubs and the scoping incidents generally don't concern me, and when I have excellent reasons to return to Colombia, it's not an easy sell.The extra flight hours is worth it. My last trip to Medellin was a real dud. Can't say the same for my Brazil trip. I've never been robbed by a motorcycle gang. Although my next trip I arrive at like 1 am. First time leaving the airport that late at night. I hope nothing happens other than no traffic which will be awesome.
I am curious if any seasoned MDE travelers know of another similar place to the Mansion? Or a similar bar that caters to international visitors? Seems like there's room in the market for another one.Problem with the mansion is I heard they have been robbed a few times. Maybe someone else can chime in on how many but you won't have to worry about that at a hotel. That place is a sitting duck for armed robbers.
StudBucket
09-05-23, 18:32
I am curious if any seasoned MDE travelers know of another similar place to the Mansion? Or a similar bar that caters to international visitors? Seems like there's room in the market for another one.Your best bet is to go to LLeras Park Club in the Poblado area next to the Park. The mansion bar is a bar / lounge with music and so is Lleras Park Club. The real difference is that Lleras Park will have from 50 to 70 girls depending on the time of the night whereas the Mansion is very hit or miss with having from only a few girls to a max. Peak of a dozen or so. No comparison.
Been there before? Met a Brazilian girl the other day in the states, in her 30's so very mature, business owner. She said her and family who recently moved to the US will never go back to Brazil since it is the most dangerous country in South America. I actually believe it since many news reports confirm that. The level of violence in Brazil are things you only see in movies, and Colombia is no where near that bad, so think again LOL.
She said you could be in a Taxi right out of the airport, and moto gangster will drive by the taxi w guns and rob you and the driver while you're at a stop light. In fact not only she broke it down to me, I also read and watched many taxi drivers now enhenced their cars to be bullet proof LOL. Yeah I know, I laughed also thinking it couldn't be that bad it is. You have drivers with bullet proof cars so that they can transport the tourist in peace from the Airport or around. I think once you're in the city and blend in and no one knows you then it's fine. But I hear both Rio and Sau Paulo we should stay away from. I'm still going to go, just sharing a story.
That kind of stuff make Colombia look ok still. If we control our little head in our pants for the most part we'll be alright in Col.Your friend sounds clueless. Number one, Brazilian taxi drivers don't stop at red lights. Red stands for recommend to stop in Brazil. 2) no taxi driver could afford to bullet proof their car. Most ridiculous thing I ever heard. I heard all those crazy type stories about Colombia. The only real threat to you in Colombia is scoping or someone breaking into your Airbnb or apartment.
There are down market strip clubs in Centro and higher end strip clubs in the neighborhoods surrounding El Poblado. You can have sessions on site or pay big to bring them to where you are staying. If the Mansion angle is about someone to speak English to you or gringos to hang around with then it's best to just go to Lleras.
Your best bet is to go to LLeras Park Club in the Poblado area next to the Park. The mansion bar is a bar / lounge with music and so is Lleras Park Club. The real difference is that Lleras Park will have from 50 to 70 girls depending on the time of the night whereas the Mansion is very hit or miss with having from only a few girls to a max. Peak of a dozen or so. No comparison.
With all these reports on scoping and the quality at the clubs down, there is no reason to go to Colombia over Brazil. Brazilian girls are better in every way.Brasil is every bit as dangerous as Colombia. Latin America in general is dangerous af and those two countries have been at or near the top of the list for decades.
Brasil is every bit as dangerous as Colombia. Latin America in general is dangerous af and those two countries have been at or near the top of the list for decades.Well, if you get scoped in Brazil, then at least you're getting scoped for better tutes LOL!
Where can we find these top tier girls in Mexico?They are in Cancun, Tulum, Mexico city and Tijuana. Some of the 8-10's are only available on IG and just work through referrals and already have a steady stream of sponsors.
Where can we find these top tier girls in Mexico?Go to Mex. City you will find them and they start st about $150 usd.
Brasil is every bit as dangerous as Colombia. Latin America in general is dangerous af and those two countries have been at or near the top of the list for decades.Agree. I think the girls may be safer, but the crime is more blatant. Case in point, I was at a big DJ concert on Copacabana beach 2 weeks ago towards the end of my stay. I had no jewelry, only my iPhone, and I kept that close to me. I saw locals take out their phones to take photos so I also did so (stupidly). After snapping a couple quick ones I had the phone at waste level to text a few and a thief grabbed it (while it was in my hands). I had both hands on it so we tussled and I yelled thief (in English). One of his accomplices then tackled me to the ground and said I was the thief!! The other locals weren't sure until they could clearly tell I was a tourist. They then grabbed the first thief, but by then he had handed off the phone to someone else who dissapeared into the crowd. They ruffed him up a bit, but that was it.
Overall I was very surprised by how brazen and coordinated the thievery is in Brazil. It wasn't pickpocketing, it was straight up grabbing and then having someone else pull you away. Watch yourself!
Should I go to the Brazil forums to find Medellin content?
BartSimpson5
09-06-23, 04:42
I've recently visited multiple times both places.
La Isla:
Much much bigger than Fase II, however it was weird that I went twice and once I saw really many beautiful girls, and second time really bad ones, literally I didn't like any of them 2nd time I went. I don't like the waitress there, especially one guy at the bar, very unpleasant. I had only one session there (when I went first time) and I have to say that session was very good, however only 1 shot was possible. Girl was brunet, I would rate her 8-9.
Prices generally are higher than in Fase II, either drinks and session with girl. Good thing however about this place is that girls are rotating there, unlike at Fase II.
Oh what I didn't like also is that if you don't buy bottle, there is no place to sit.
Fase II:
I visited this place like 5 times so far, it's smaller than La Isla but I think general design and vibe is much much better, I sesioned there with 3 girls. I recommend you guys stick to the ones that have bikini where belly is visible unless you want girl that has post-pregnant belly.
Girls are beautiful there, however they are not rotating, I see almost the same girls every time I go there.
The waiters are sooo much nicer, prices are lower and you can sit down at the bar even if you buy just a drink or water.
Overall I prefer Fase II much more than La Isla.
BTW. Do you know any clubs like these 2 mentioned above that are also kind of higher-end?
Agree. I think the girls may be safer, but the crime is more blatant. Case in point, I was at a big DJ concert on Copacabana beach 2 weeks ago towards the end of my stay. I had no jewelry, only my iPhone, and I kept that close to me. I saw locals take out their phones to take photos so I also did so (stupidly). After snapping a couple quick ones I had the phone at waste level to text a few and a thief grabbed it (while it was in my hands). I had both hands on it so we tussled and I yelled thief (in English). One of his accomplices then tackled me to the ground and said I was the thief!! The other locals weren't sure until they could clearly tell I was a tourist. They then grabbed the first thief, but by then he had handed off the phone to someone else who dissapeared into the crowd. They ruffed him up a bit, but that was it.
Overall I was very surprised by how brazen and coordinated the thievery is in Brazil. It wasn't pickpocketing, it was straight up grabbing and then having someone else pull you away. Watch yourself!You just proved my point. You were robbed because you were an idiot. Why would you bring a iPhone to Brazil. You know how much it's worth in that country with the huge tariffs they charge. Don't you rtff. You bring an old beater smartphone or buy a cheap brand like Blu for 50 to 100 bucks and let it go if someone grabs it. You could have been stabbed.
Everytime I read a story about someone being robbed it's always the tourist doing something dumb. The guy that I met that walked around at 2 am with a iPod, or the guy that brought all his electronics to Brazil: laptop, iPhone, tons of cash and someone broke into his apartment rental and took everything. Sure, I always take my iMac downstairs for breakfast, so everyone can see me, and when I get back, lock my things in the room and expect nothing bad to happen. LOL.
There is a reason I haven't been robbed in 20 years of mongering. I keep all valuables home and never rent apartments or air bnb.
StudBucket
09-06-23, 06:59
Brasil is every bit as dangerous as Colombia. Latin America in general is dangerous af and those two countries have been at or near the top of the list for decades.This is absolutely true Combo. Brazil is not safe by any means and maybe even more dangerous than Colombia in terms of homicides and violent crimes. I have been going there for 15 years and my long term girlfriend was from there. I know several Brazilians and they are scared in Rio at night and in Sao Paolo and warn to stay vigilant. Just google Good Night Cinderella drug in Brazil and you will see stories of sex workers who drug guys, rob them, and there have been deaths as well. Also, muggings at knife or gun point will occur (happened to her twice). My friend had his cell phone pick pocketed the first time he went with me. Many cities in Brazil make the worlds top dangerous cities list every year along with Mexico and the justice system is so broken, bankrupt that criminals know they will get out of violent crime soon if they pay a fine. Please stop giving false hopes to others Tijuana Brazil.
Also gents, please see the links below. Medellin did not even make it in the top 50 most dangerous cities in the world, Cali Colombia made it to number 24. You will see more cities in the USA, and Brazil that made the list and of course Mexican cities by far outnumber the rest.
https://www.worldatlas.com/cities/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.html#h_32854079534951638029315518
https://theboutiqueadventurer.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world/
Medellin has gone the Thailand way. Became too popular, girls found a way to work abroad and have moved en masse. All the best performers in Thailand that I have known for over 15 years are outside Thailand now, even working in such unlikely places as Georgia and Africa.
My last trip was quite underwhelming as well.
The talent evaporated.
New Life: Was my go to but on this trip there's a ton of fatties / grandmas and only like 3-4 girls who aren't who are usually taken.
Dulce: Lots of fatties here as well, maybe like one or two girls who are okay.
Club Sexy Amigas: I went there in the morning and there was only one girl available. Other girls went in and out with robes and a few girls were just getting in but all of them were flat as a pancake (not fat though). I'll probably go check it out one or two more times to see if I just got really unlucky.
Over the past few. Years, I've gotten at least like five or so 7's to 9's to choose from. This trip seems like a dud. The only girls that seem semi worth it are the girls I have on dial (from previous casa trips) but they are flaky and usually requires 4-8 hours. Where are all the hot girls hiding in centro? Anyone know of any decent casas in centro?
I am yet to break my centro cherry.
Can someone please recommend some clean, safe short term motels very close to Veracruz church? The area is very busy so I don't want to go across three four streets, hence need something as close to church as possible.
Thank you, in advance, for any pointers.
JohnnieCash
09-06-23, 13:54
Prices generally are higher than in Fase II, either drinks and session with girl.What were the prices in both places?
Should I go to the Brazil forums to find Medellin content?Actually the content is exactly identical in the sense of getting jacked up, everyone has a different perception of how dangerous a place is whether it's Colombia or Brazil, with the typical scenario being someone getting jacked up because of their own stupidity and or ignorance.
Exactly identical either in Colombia or Brazil.
Overall I was very surprised by how brazen and coordinated the thievery is in Brazil. It wasn't pickpocketing, it was straight up grabbing and then having someone else pull you away. Watch yourself!It's like this as well in Colombia as you know.
And during the Pandemic in Centro there were also was a lot of very brazen thievery.
And it's still prevalent now, but lesser than during the Pandemic.
I have a friend here visiting and staying in Centro.
A few nights ago at around 9 PM in the evening he was walking around Botero Plaza and four women accosted him and tried to pick pocket him, but he had zippers they couldn't open on his pants and was able to get away.
He said that if they had gotten him on the ground they would of been able to take his belongings.
Yes you have to watch out always, because as soon as you let your guard down and least expect it you can get jacked up.
I am yet to break my centro cherry.
Can someone please recommend some clean, safe short term motels very close to Veracruz church? The area is very busy so I don't want to go across three four streets, hence need something as close to church as possible.
Thank you, in advance, for any pointers.To make it simple for you, if you stand at the Fountain in the Veracruz Church courtyard, you will be able to see at least five short term love motels within 150 feet which will be clean and safe, albeit not the cheapest around.
Report back on your foray down under! LOL.
StudPlayer
09-07-23, 03:30
Now you got to be cool when you go here and you got to have some game.
But you will get what you want with a little game.
There are no rooms on site so it will be take away service and you got to be cool.
Here you will learn just how cool real Colombian chicas really are.
No hard core putas here.
This place is completely off the beaten path. Just show a taxi driver the address:
Calle 59 see #66-26, El Trapiche, Bello.
If you check the address on Google maps you won't see the bar which is newly constructed.
LoveItHere
09-07-23, 07:45
To make it simple for you, if you stand at the Fountain in the Veracruz Church courtyard, you will be able to see at least five short term love motels within 150 feet which will be clean and safe, albeit not the cheapest around.Safe yes. Clean? You have lost your mind.
In order of cleanliness. Mostly are all in a row if you look on Google Maps.
Mandala $35,000 for 3 hours.
Casa Botero (now owned by Mandala) $47,000 for 3 hours. (This makes no sense. Receptionist said they are trying to make it a family type hotel). FYI They offer free coffee, tea, and cereal breakfast. 4 rooms painted and 1 being painted now. Expect prices to keep going up as improvements keep being made).
Mairuba $18,000 for 2 or 3 hours. (past on information to me from guy last week).
The rest are pretty much different levels of dirty and uncomfortable.
I've been around El Cento day and night for over a week and haven't had any problems. The entire place is deserted on Sunday, and I've had no problems thus far. In the meantime, I reserve rooms at Hotel Alcazar or Hotel Conquistadores to rest.You are clueless. I do not have the time to list all the things I have seen and things that have been told to me by others. Botero area is dangerous. So are other areas, even Poblado.
Last time I was here was 2 years ago. There are around 15% less girls, working less hours so harder to find, and the quality is down 15%. No, I did not count them or use a spreadsheet. It is my guesstimate. But all the other guys have said the same thing.
LoveItHere69
09-07-23, 09:43
#4 for clean short time hotel.
Ocasionals Milan $8000 30 minutes (on Carrera 53 bar street) big vertical sign with big balcony. Hotel remodelled less than 2 years ago.
Safe yes. Clean? You have lost your mind.
In order of cleanliness. Mostly are all in a row if you look on Google Maps..I was not referring to the Hotels on the backstreet where they don't change the sheets and there are no bathrooms in the rooms.
All of the Love Motels within 150 feet of the Veracruz Fountain have bathrooms, towels, and hot water so I consider them clean.
As far as the rates for the Hotels you quoted, the Zona Rosa is directly in front of the Veracruz Fountains about 40 feet away and is about 15 K for short time.
And it changes the sheets, has towels, and hot water so need to be paying 30 K elsewhere, and clean enough for me.
There's a high probability that you can pick up a case of Scabies from one of the Hotels you mention that are in a row.
Not clean at all as you mention.
Medellin has gone the Thailand way. Became too popular, girls found a way to work abroad and have moved en masse. All the best performers in Thailand that I have known for over 15 years are outside Thailand now, even working in such unlikely places as Georgia and Africa.
My last trip was quite underwhelming as well.For Colombianas it's Mexico. Mexico is for them what USA is for Mexicans. Couple of lookers I see spend 3 months at a time in Mexico City and Playa del carmen. Mexican and US guys on business pay for their flights, hotels, another 500 US per day. Once there, they go on Tinder and Seeking and book guys once they need money. I imagine they aren't the only ones. Thing is, they will eventually have to come home to Colombia, then need money again and here we are.
MAKE sure you turn off the overdraft transfer from your brokerage account. Another problem is that you can't transfer money on the weekends.How do you do this? I can't find that option?
If it is true that chicas are banding together to pressure other chicas not to accept lower than 300 k AND chicas are agreeing to that then what is the point of the Mansion other than to collect contacts so that you can call her in to your apartment at YOUR rate some other day or night?
I don't understand.The sad fact is that if they really band together and start asking 500 k, guys will pay it, or they will be circle jerking each other. Many of those Mansion guys would never come to Colombia if not for the Mansion, so they are paying whatever is asked since they would be too scared to stay anywhere else.
ElSexoChino7
09-07-23, 21:25
Now you got to be cool when you go here and you got to have some game.
But you will get what you want with a little game.
There are no rooms on site so it will be take away service and you got to be cool.
Here you will learn just how cool real Colombian chicas really are.
No hard core putas here.
This place is completely off the beaten path. Just show a taxi driver the address:
Calle 59 see #66-26, El Trapiche, Bello.
If you check the address on Google maps you won't see the bar which is newly constructed.What it's like? Is it a strip club? Nightclub with semi pro's? Or are you talking about just local Colombian girls (non pros)?
How many bodies did you do on this place? At least share us some juicy details. I'll be at Medellin next month and will be checking this spot.
Also gents, please see the links below. Medellin did not even make it in the top 50 most dangerous cities in the world, Cali Colombia made it to number 24. You will see more cities in the USA, and Brazil that made the list and of course Mexican cities by far outnumber the rest. And the same flawed analysis I have been refuting here for many years. There's a target on your back in Medellin and Rio in a way that there's not in the states as well as many other parts of the world. The gang slaying stats in New Orleans are irrelevant to this discussion and the purpose of this forum. They know who you are so watch it gents. The moment you think you can't get got you are one step closer to getting got.
Skinny Gallo
09-08-23, 01:57
Medellin has gone the Thailand way. Became too popular, girls found a way to work abroad and have moved en masse. All the best performers in Thailand that I have known for over 15 years are outside Thailand now, even working in such unlikely places as Georgia and Africa.
My last trip was quite underwhelming as well.My last trip to Med was exactly one year ago. Zandaly girls were not so cute anymore, New Life girls, well I just had a beer for presentation and left, Nueva Avenida some girls cute but in minority. For fb: I was quoted in US dollars and dates were very hard to set up. Girls on fb now having travel photos from Paris and one I know moved to Spain. However, maybe fb might still work but it's not easy, maybe others are having more luck. For me Medellin lost it's charm. Thanks to You Tube and Covid war our Hobby has become hustle. It's not what it was 4-5 years ago before gringo tsunami.
I'll try Bogota few more times or maybe I'll just find new hobby.
Just my 5 cents.
Elvis 2008
09-08-23, 17:21
And the same flawed analysis I have been refuting here for many years. There's a target on your back in Medellin and Rio in a way that there's not in the states as well as many other parts of the world. The gang slaying stats in New Orleans are irrelevant to this discussion and the purpose of this forum. They know who you are so watch it gents. The moment you think you can't get got you are one step closer to getting got.That is totally right. Like you said with New Orleans, the same is true in Juarez / El Paso. Juarez is the 3rd most dangerous city in the world whereas El Paso, being right across the border, is the 3rd safest big city in America. https://kisselpaso.com/el-paso-once-again-makes-the-top-of-the-safest-large-us-city-list/.
The reason is the drug cartels doing the shooting keep their shit on their side of the border. The tourists are not targeted. They may be collateral damage, but the cartels are paid protection money by businesses in Juarez and they do not want American tourists to quit coming.
In Rio, two of the three guys in my group were mugged. In the tourist area, the cops did not give a shit. The other mugging was in the center of town where it is more locals, and the police response was robust.
Tourists are fair game in Medellin and Rio.
I have been finding a bunch of pretty 18 year old girls recently on Facebook. They always seem eager to meet with me. They always tell me that they have problems finding gringo clients on Facebook. Part of it may be that they are too inexperienced to figure out how to hook gringo clients. It does seem strange to me because they are young, attractive and provide a solid performance in bed at a reasonable price. For guys complaining about the experienced pros at the Mansion or Park Lleras, this may be the way to go.
If anyone is currently in Medellin or will be in Medellin within the week. Send me a message and I might be able to connect you with a young pretty 18 year old girl who needs cash right away. I have never been with her but she is a friend of a 18 year old girl that I saw in my last trip and I will see her on my next trip.
No, I am not a pimp.
No, I do not make any money from this transaction.
Just trying to help out young attractive girls in Medellin. Like Mother Teresa. Ja ja ja.
Her friend told her if she's coming to see me, to run my pockets LOL.
Wants me to fly her from Bogota to Medellin.
We've been speaking for weeks and she never mentioned any money.
Wow, this is downright depressing.
My last trip to Med was exactly one year ago. Zandaly girls were not so cute anymore, New Life girls, well I just had a beer for presentation and left, Nueva Avenida some girls cute but in minority. For fb: I was quoted in US dollars and dates were very hard to set up. Girls on fb now having travel photos from Paris and one I know moved to Spain. However, maybe fb might still work but it's not easy, maybe others are having more luck. For me Medellin lost it's charm. Thanks to You Tube and Covid war our Hobby has become hustle. It's not what it was 4-5 years ago before gringo tsunami.
I'll try Bogota few more times or maybe I'll just find new hobby.
Just my 5 cents.
Here are 2 reasons to go to Colombia over Brazil.
1. At least for me, flights are much cheaper and shorter to Colombia.
2. Spanish is a useful language in almost every country in Central and South America and the Caribbean, as well as Spain.
I've been told by people who I trust that Brazil is much better, but when the quality in the clubs and the scoping incidents generally don't concern me, and when I have excellent reasons to return to Colombia, it's not an easy sell.I'm not trying to sell Brazil by any means. But, all these things mentioned are actually positives and help to prevent Brazil from taking the kind of dive that places like Sosua and Cartagena have taken. The only obstacle for Rio was the cleanup that occurred around the Olympics when Help was closed. Any other barriers like Portuguese actually help those willing to put in the work. The critical mass will wind up in Colombia / Sosua because it's easier and cheaper. Easy will always attract more pants sagging.
BlueChange
09-09-23, 06:14
I'm not trying to sell Brazil by any means. But, all these things mentioned are actually positives and help to prevent Brazil from taking the kind of dive that places like Sosua and Cartagena have taken. The only obstacle for Rio was the cleanup that occurred around the Olympics when Help was closed. Any other barriers like Portuguese actually help those willing to put in the work. The critical mass will wind up in Colombia / Sosua because it's easier and cheaper. Easy will always attract more pants sagging.Sadest day when Help Closed. That is what prob made me switch to going to CO. I really can't explain the vibe. It's like a nightclub feel and everyone is having fun and the hotest girl ever will go home with you. It really was like the nightclub fantasy with guarenteed hot fucking. I swear the olypmics was the worst thing to happen to Brazil. And look at the place that ocupies the former help, that musuem thing never really worked out with all the money they lined up and spent. Help was soo HUGE!! A warehouse of hot brazillian working girls!
Oh well, glad I got to enjoy it.
BlueChange
09-09-23, 06:16
Her friend told her if she's coming to see me, to run my pockets LOL.
Wants me to fly her from Bogota to Medellin.
We've been speaking for weeks and she never mentioned any money.Why overpay and import a 3 when you can take a taxi for a 9 at a quater the price. Hard pass!
BlueChange
09-09-23, 06:17
My last trip to Med was exactly one year ago. Zandaly girls were not so cute anymore, New Life girls, well I just had a beer for presentation and left, Nueva Avenida some girls cute but in minority. For fb: I was quoted in US dollars and dates were very hard to set up. Girls on fb now having travel photos from Paris and one I know moved to Spain. However, maybe fb might still work but it's not easy, maybe others are having more luck. For me Medellin lost it's charm. Thanks to You Tube and Covid war our Hobby has become hustle. It's not what it was 4-5 years ago before gringo tsunami.
I'll try Bogota few more times or maybe I'll just find new hobby.
Just my 5 cents.All the gems are on Seeking, but yes I agree tooo many people making tiktoks about it is making it a bit too popular. I had that, I went away for a couple years and came back and was refreshed with new talent.
All the gems are on Seeking, but yes I agree tooo many people making tiktoks about it is making it a bit too popular. I had that, I went away for a couple years and came back and was refreshed with new talent.Even the seeking girls are mostly tinder, fb, and lleras girls. It's a thing now with all the pros. Just another platform for the 2-300 k girls now to get free dinners and act like they're unique. While I was browsing seeking it was crazy how many of these girls I already fucked for 2-300 k pesos now asking for 2-300 usd.
Medellin was going this way for a while now. I do believe it'll eventually die down with all the druggings and gringos realizing they're getting played.
ElSexoChino7
09-09-23, 07:36
I have been finding a bunch of pretty 18 year old girls recently on Facebook. They always seem eager to meet with me. They always tell me that they have problems finding gringo clients on Facebook. Part of it may be that they are too inexperienced to figure out how to hook gringo clients. It does seem strange to me because they are young, attractive and provide a solid performance in bed at a reasonable price. For guys complaining about the experienced pros at the Mansion or Park Lleras, this may be the way to go.
If anyone is currently in Medellin or will be in Medellin within the week. Send me a message and I might be able to connect you with a young pretty 18 year old girl who needs cash right away. I have never been with her but she is a friend of a 18 year old girl that I saw in my last trip and I will see her on my next trip.
No, I am not a pimp.
No, I do not make any money from this transaction.
Just trying to help out young attractive girls in Medellin. Like Mother Teresa. Ja ja ja.Definitely need this. I've been actually slowly building my Facebook list. The thing that I noticed in fb are most of the profiles are either fake profiles with photos of pretty girls. Some girls there only sell content and have no plans on meeting up. Some girls just don't reply when you messaged them.
Why overpay and import a 3 when you can take a taxi for a 9 at a quater the price. Hard pass!Yea I was too eager wasn't thinking LOL I never been to Colombia so just started pinging girls see who wanted to meet, also because of all the warnings about getting drugged from Medellin girls. She agreed but the more I look at her pics I'm like why did I do this, ticket is non refundable so I might be stuck. She also tried to raise the price on me to 400 saying that's what she usually gets.
Wow, this is downright depressing.There has been a lot of negative comments about the girls in the casas and the girls in the nightclubs. Too professional, rushed, overcharging, business like, average looks, and so on.
I have been to Medellin five times now and so far I have not seen a girl in a casa or in a nightclub or in the streets. I have just been focusing on Facebook and I think the girls I have been meeting so far have been great. Young, attractive, semi-pros who do it from time to time, solid performance, reasonable prices. If you make the effort, it can be a great experience. At the same time, I've had two older friends ask me about how to get started on FB, and they can't figure it out so it is not for everyone.
I have wiped my Facebook account of all true friends because I don't really use it so my FB account is now solely used for mongering purposes. If you can get started with a small group of young attractive girls, then FB will start recommending more young attractive girls in Medellin to you and that is how you grow your base. People have asked how do you get started? The answer is there is a website where guys post about FB girls and give reviews and comments. I am not sure I can give it out but if you don't know, just send me a private message. You can definitely get at least 100 girls from that website and go from there.
Seeking is similar to Facebook and you can get similar results. I don't use it because it is expensive and I can get the same results from FB. But if you want to meet girls online, Seeking is much easier because you can select from a large numbers of girls in Medellin and on Seeking, there is already an understanding that the girl expects money from you. It was meant as a sugar daddy website but it works just as well for finding pay for play girls for an hour or two.
JohnnieCash
09-09-23, 14:33
Yea I was too eager wasn't thinking LOL I never been to Colombia so just started pinging girls see who wanted to meet, also because of all the warnings about getting drugged from Medellin girls. She agreed but the more I look at her pics I'm like why did I do this, ticket is non refundable so I might be stuck. She also tried to raise the price on me to 400 saying that's what she usually gets.Hold on, you're importing a hooker that you've never met in person from another city? What a waste of time and money and you'd be most likely disappointed (if she even shows up). There must be literary 1000's of WG girls in establishments in Medellin that you can see in person first, girls will not scope you there, so if you're worried you could go to casas and clubs, majority of girls there will provide good service. Damn, you could just go to the most expensive club La Isla and find much hotter girl in there and it'd be around the same price probably. Well, good luck.
P.S. They do scope plenty in Bogota.
Sadest day when Help Closed. That is what prob made me switch to going to CO. I really can't explain the vibe. It's like a nightclub feel and everyone is having fun and the hotest girl ever will go home with you. It really was like the nightclub fantasy with guarenteed hot fucking. I swear the olypmics was the worst thing to happen to Brazil. And look at the place that ocupies the former help, that musuem thing never really worked out with all the money they lined up and spent. Help was soo HUGE!! A warehouse of hot brazillian working girls!
Oh well, glad I got to enjoy it.The great thing about Help was that it attracted Brazilians from all over the country to Rio to make money with p4 p so you always had the baddest women in the country in Rio for that purpose. Rio is still great, but you don't have that influx year round anymore.
I have been to Medellin five times now and so far I have not seen a girl in a casa or in a nightclub or in the streets. I have just been focusing on Facebook and I think the girls I have been meeting so far have been great. Young, attractive, semi-pros who do it from time to time, solid performance, reasonable prices. I guess the difference would be that dudes were getting attractive women and good service at casas for 40-50 mil at one time.
If your new and don't know where to go this is a good place to get started:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List
For some reason I can no longer access the map but the list still works and people are talking about new locations manually in the forum. Guess the admin of the map stopped?
I'm starting to see a couple different girls at the casas. I haven't seen an 8, 9 or 10 yet on this trip but I'll explore a bit and report back.
JohnnieCash
09-09-23, 15:00
They always tell me that they have problems finding gringo clients on Facebook. Part of it may be that they are too inexperienced to figure out how to hook gringo clients. It does seem strange to me because they are young, attractive and provide a solid performance in bed at a reasonable price. For guys complaining about the experienced pros at the Mansion or Park Lleras, this may be the way to go.Possible reasons, they might not be as pretty as you think plus it's a big city, 18 yos are dime a dozen and there are only so many gringos. Plus not sure what the obsession with the 18 number. Looks and service is more important IMO.
Funny she mentions problems with finding gringos, locals do not care about that number, and they usually go through them starting at around 13 (it is what it is).
Also, if she's doesn't have some tits and ass on her most Colombians aren't that interested. I know many gringo-servicing FB girls first and second hand and funny how majority of them are rather flat chested. It's good the gringos are here otherwise these girls have trouble with their local client base. Sin tetas no hay paradiso.
I am yet to break my centro cherry.
Can someone please recommend some clean, safe short term motels very close to Veracruz church? The area is very busy so I don't want to go across three four streets, hence need something as close to church as possible.
Thank you, in advance, for any pointers.My first experience with Veracruz church was I saw a bunch of girls near the church at night. I start walking closer and when I got within half a block I noticed they were dudes dressed up as girls. I then started to cross the street and one of them ran at me and grabbed my balls and wouldn't let go. I tried to smack it's hand off but wouldn't let go. There was a police officer close by, I was about to yell for them but they let go right before I called out. I couldn't monger for like a day and a half.
Careful out there, be ready dash out of there if they run at you. If you do find out, check for an adams apple first. You don't want a surprise popping up.
I guess the difference would be that dudes were getting attractive women and good service at casas for 40-50 mil at one time.I don't know if that is true. Everyone has their own perception of beauty so just because someone says there were attractive girls didn't mean that there were attractive girls per your own standards. Now, good service is more objective so if guys were happy with the service, I am more inclined to believe it. Guys saying they are meeting 8's and 9's really doesn't mean much without pictures and there is no standard as to what is an 8 or 9 or 10. I do know this. On the escort review website for the USA that is well known, guys give ratings on the girl's looks, and many times I am shocked at ratings of 8 or above when I see the girl in person who sometimes is a 6 in my opinion. But the majority of guys were rating her as 8 or above.
But casa girls are high volume and you might be going right after another guy especially if she is actually attractive.
If it is true that chicas are banding together to pressure other chicas not to accept lower than 300 k AND chicas are agreeing to that then what is the point of the Mansion other than to collect contacts so that you can call her in to your apartment at YOUR rate some other day or night?
I don't understand.For me the Mansion is about the location. Nice area, central to everything, I walk almost everyday to Park Lleras for dinner and recon. The bar at the Mansion is hit and miss. But mostly a hit with new girls. It's well known as a place to come and make a little extra cash for these girls and they often bring non-pro friends. A lot of the new girls might never come back for a month or two so getting contacts is what I do. I think the 300 K COP will work itself out cause I've had plenty of regulars happy with 250 K. But the Mansion also offers some of its regulars a bit of a private club feel. Everyone knows each other and often meet up for dinner. In fact a few weeks ago several of the guys just organized a Brazil trip last minute and left together. I have stayed at other places but sometimes I miss the social aspect of the M.
Definitely need this. I've been actually slowly building my Facebook list. The thing that I noticed in fb are most of the profiles are either fake profiles with photos of pretty girls. Some girls there only sell content and have no plans on meeting up. Some girls just don't reply when you messaged them.You need to keep scrolling girls and msg them. Most will reply and some might not as these girls travel a lot. Msg me I can share some FB girls with you.
Even the seeking girls are mostly tinder, fb, and lleras girls. It's a thing now with all the pros. Just another platform for the 2-300 k girls now to get free dinners and act like they're unique. While I was browsing seeking it was crazy how many of these girls I already fucked for 2-300 k pesos now asking for 2-300 usd.
Medellin was going this way for a while now. I do believe it'll eventually die down with all the druggings and gringos realizing they're getting played.Totally agree. Seeking in Medellin is trash right now, there are no gems to be found. Just a bunch of pros. And fb girls are extremely flaky. No show is the norm, even with repeat girls. Time to move to a different city or country, mde is done. Love the city though (.
I think different casas have different rules.
For Dulce, even a few minutes before opening, most if not all the girls are there.
For New Life, I think it opens at like 9 am or something and the girls don't really show up till 11 am. I saw a guy just leave telling me there were only 2 girls there as I entered around 10:15. When I got the line up, tons of girls started showing up. After I ordered, better girls started to show up. When I left, a ton of guys were already waiting. I think there's a sweet spot in times to show up here. I'll try out a bunch and report back.
It's a little hard to tell which girls will have a banging body and which won't during the line ups. I'm starting to see some girls offer more off the menu for tips but I'm hesitant. I don't want to inflate the prices for everyone doing kinda dumb stuff. I stick to casas because my ability to negotiate is pretty bad and I would 100% spoil it for everyone.
Ordering from places where girls post their own photos has been a real miss for me.
Many years ago in Tijuana I got super catfished. She must have used a photo from 10 years ago and brought a "friend" who was so fat, she was more wide than tall. She was so fat, it was impossible to penetrate her. She was so far when she walked, she caused mini earth quakes. Worst part was, after they entered my room, they wouldn't leave until they got some money even though there was no service.
A few years ago In Medellin, I hit up facebook and got a girl for like 200 bucks. Her face was nice but when she undressed, it was like she had just given birth. Stretch marks and saggy skin all over the place. It was also only for like 30 minutes. After a pop she left.
So far, the casas and the street girls are better for me since I can at least tell if a girl is somewhat attractive before I make the rent. Plus their prices are reasonable, if I had to pay 200-300 usd per pop, I'd go broke super quick.
Totally agree. Seeking in Medellin is trash right now, there are no gems to be found. Just a bunch of pros. And fb girls are extremely flaky. No show is the norm, even with repeat girls. Time to move to a different city or country, mde is done. Love the city though (.I have to disagree on a number of points. Medellin is not trash yet. I don't use Seeking so I have no comment on that. There are gems in the city but you just need to take the time to look for them. If you go to the obvious places, of course, the girls will be experienced pros. FB girls can be flaky but no show is not the norm. Usually on every trip, I have one or two girls who do not respond on the day of the appointment and I give them a deadline to get back to me, and then I schedule another girl. Always have a backup plan. I agree with you on this point, I love the city.
Skinny Gallo
09-09-23, 21:48
All the gems are on Seeking, but yes I agree tooo many people making tiktoks about it is making it a bit too popular. I had that, I went away for a couple years and came back and was refreshed with new talent.I scrolled through those gems and I saw there one my fb "friends" who was later on mileroticos and one fb girl who made porno.
Other girls on SA are probably less pro or no pro at all.
Who am I kidding?
This is absolutely true Combo. Brazil is not safe by any means and maybe even more dangerous than Colombia in terms of homicides and violent crimes. I have been going there for 15 years and my long term girlfriend was from there. I know several Brazilians and they are scared in Rio at night and in Sao Paolo and warn to stay vigilant. Just google Good Night Cinderella drug in Brazil and you will see stories of sex workers who drug guys, rob them, and there have been deaths as well. Also, muggings at knife or gun point will occur (happened to her twice). My friend had his cell phone pick pocketed the first time he went with me. Many cities in Brazil make the worlds top dangerous cities list every year along with Mexico and the justice system is so broken, bankrupt that criminals know they will get out of violent crime soon if they pay a fine. Please stop giving false hopes to others Tijuana Brazil.
Also gents, please see the links below. Medellin did not even make it in the top 50 most dangerous cities in the world, Cali Colombia made it to number 24. You will see more cities in the USA, and Brazil that made the list and of course Mexican cities by far outnumber the rest.
https://www.worldatlas.com/cities/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world.html#h_32854079534951638029315518
https://theboutiqueadventurer.com/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world/I want this to stay dangerous. All the spirit air / tijuana weekend monger types can get scared and stay out.
MarquisdeSade1
09-09-23, 23:32
But I wouldn't mind investigating the prices and clinics.
Does anyone know a top notch clinic for lasik in MDE?
Guys saying they are meeting 8's and 9's really doesn't mean much without pictures
I never said anything about 8 or 9's. I said "attractive. " I would say you used to definitely be able to go into a casa and find girls as attractive as Lleras and FB. As others has stated, many of the girls that were in casas and El Centro have migrated to Lleras and FB because they can make more $$. Others start out in Lleras now instead of a casa or El Centro because times have changed and some places closed after c19 and the word got out about gringos paying 5 times more in Lleras and on FB. People adapt. I was just noting that things have changed for various reasons regarding the casas.
I never said anything about 8 or 9's. I said "attractive. " I would say you used to definitely be able to go into a casa and find girls as attractive as Lleras and FB. As others has stated, many of the girls that were in casas and El Centro have migrated to Lleras and FB because they can make more $$. Others start out in Lleras now instead of a casa or El Centro because times have changed and some places closed after c19 and the word got out about gringos paying 5 times more in Lleras and on FB. People adapt. I was just noting that things have changed for various reasons regarding the casas.I just want to chime in here and say that I'm in Bogota and I've met multiple girls all 7. 5 plus (I tend you skew towards a lower rating) That say they don't work in Medellin and that they only go to Bogota for a 1 or 2 weeks to work. I've heard that a lot of girls moved to other countries. Like Panama, Mexico, Spain, some in Dominican Republic. Girl go where the money is. Who ever is willing to pay more consistently.
Also this girl insta: ktz__20 used to be a Facebook girl 6 6. 5 in my book. I'm not sure if she's still working but it looks like she's out of the country maybe France. Sugar daddy?
Remember these girls didn't just die. For some reason they are off the market or or the market moved.
I never said anything about 8 or 9's. I said "attractive. " I would say you used to definitely be able to go into a casa and find girls as attractive as Lleras and FB. As others has stated, many of the girls that were in casas and El Centro have migrated to Lleras and FB because they can make more $$. Others start out in Lleras now instead of a casa or El Centro because times have changed and some places closed after c19 and the word got out about gringos paying 5 times more in Lleras and on FB. People adapt. I was just noting that things have changed for various reasons regarding the casas.I will defer to your experience in Medellin since I have only been going for the past year and have no knowledge of the way it was. If you found young attractive girls providing solid performance for 40 to 50 mil in casa in the past, that is amazing, I would agree.
It would make sense why the good ones would gravitate now to Lleras and FB to make much more money.
It reminds me of the older guys talking about the golden days in Thailand or the Philippines. That is something I have knowledge about, going back to the 80's, and it is true.
BlueChange
09-10-23, 01:54
I just want to chime in here and say that I'm in Bogota and I've met multiple girls all 7. 5 plus (I tend you skew towards a lower rating) That say they don't work in Medellin and that they only go to Bogota for a 1 or 2 weeks to work. I've heard that a lot of girls moved to other countries. Like Panama, Mexico, Spain, some in Dominican Republic. Girl go where the money is. Who ever is willing to pay more consistently.
Also this girl insta: ktz__20 used to be a Facebook girl 6 6. 5 in my book. I'm not sure if she's still working but it looks like she's out of the country maybe France. Sugar daddy?
Remember these girls didn't just die. For some reason they are off the market or or the market moved.Another thing these chicks do is go to Europe once and take like 29329033 photos then they post it for like a year in their stories and go on tinder in the location to lure the guys to bring them back.
The market has changed and girl who is 9 or above is going to know the moment she post on IG. However, there are still dimes out there that for one reason or another just stay and you can bone. Maybe they are lazy, too much drugs, or just don't see big picure and rather hang with their cats.
Yeah that one I think I see her before.
Would love that Facebook girl review group, thanks!
There has been a lot of negative comments about the girls in the casas and the girls in the nightclubs. Too professional, rushed, overcharging, business like, average looks, and so on.
I have been to Medellin five times now and so far I have not seen a girl in a casa or in a nightclub or in the streets. I have just been focusing on Facebook and I think the girls I have been meeting so far have been great. Young, attractive, semi-pros who do it from time to time, solid performance, reasonable prices. If you make the effort, it can be a great experience. At the same time, I've had two older friends ask me about how to get started on FB, and they can't figure it out so it is not for everyone.
I have wiped my Facebook account of all true friends because I don't really use it so my FB account is now solely used for mongering purposes. If you can get started with a small group of young attractive girls, then FB will start recommending more young attractive girls in Medellin to you and that is how you grow your base. People have asked how do you get started? The answer is there is a website where guys post about FB girls and give reviews and comments. I am not sure I can give it out but if you don't know, just send me a private message. You can definitely get at least 100 girls from that website and go from there.
Seeking is similar to Facebook and you can get similar results. I don't use it because it is expensive and I can get the same results from FB. But if you want to meet girls online, Seeking is much easier because you can select from a large numbers of girls in Medellin and on Seeking, there is already an understanding that the girl expects money from you. It was meant as a sugar daddy website but it works just as well for finding pay for play girls for an hour or two.
I just want to chime in here and say that I'm in Bogota and I've met multiple girls all 7. 5 plus (I tend you skew towards a lower rating) That say they don't work in Medellin and that they only go to Bogota for a 1 or 2 weeks to work. I've heard that a lot of girls moved to other countries. Like Panama, Mexico, Spain, some in Dominican Republic. Girl go where the money is. Who ever is willing to pay more consistently.
Also this girl insta: ktz__20 used to be a Facebook girl 6 6. 5 in my book. I'm not sure if she's still working but it looks like she's out of the country maybe France. Sugar daddy?
Remember these girls didn't just die. For some reason they are off the market or or the market moved.I've been with ktz20 6 or 7 times in the last 2 years, I think she is beautiful, higher than a 6. 5 but just my opinion. She has a place in Bello but does some traveling when a client foots the bill. She has made multiple trips around the Carribean with johns but luckily for me has always been in mde & available when I have visited.
DramaFree11
09-10-23, 04:35
I just want to chime in here and say that I'm in Bogota and I've met multiple girls all 7. 5 plus (I tend you skew towards a lower rating) That say they don't work in Medellin and that they only go to Bogota for a 1 or 2 weeks to work. I've heard that a lot of girls moved to other countries. Like Panama, Mexico, Spain, some in Dominican Republic. Girl go where the money is. Who ever is willing to pay more consistently.
Also this girl insta: ktz__20 used to be a Facebook girl 6 6. 5 in my book. I'm not sure if she's still working but it looks like she's out of the country maybe France. Sugar daddy?
Remember these girls didn't just die. For some reason they are off the market or or the market moved.Yep, there is a ton of Colombian Chicks in CDMX and yes, there is a bunch in MDE. The Mexican Dudes, love fake and big asses. I just laugh when I see them and instant block when they contact me. For the most part they are very demanding, most refuse to speak English and are way more expensive than the Mexican Babes. Sorry.
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