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GeneHickman
09-10-23, 06:19
To the dude who's balls the tranny grabbed.
You were manhandled my friend. Jajaja. But all kidding aside what the heck were you doing at plaza botero and the iglesia at night? Sunset means it's a no go zone.
GeneHickman
09-10-23, 06:41
Her friend told her if she's coming to see me, to run my pockets LOL.
Wants me to fly her from Bogota to Medellin.
We've been speaking for weeks and she never mentioned any money.This is almost certain to end with a big disappointment for you my friend. Simple rule of thumb anytime a chica quotes you in Dollars, run Forrest run! The service will be poor, she will try to keep extracting $ from you and it will get awkward and that works to her advantage as you go limp and get turned off. She will get her trip her $250 or $400 and her IG pics from wherever she makes you take her in MDE. And you return home holding your dick and hopefully wiser even if your pockets are a $1 k lighter.
My first experience with Veracruz church was I saw a bunch of girls near the church at night. I start walking closer and when I got within half a block I noticed they were dudes dressed up as girls. I then started to cross the street and one of them ran at me and grabbed my balls and wouldn't let go. I tried to smack it's hand off but wouldn't let go. There was a police officer close by, I was about to yell for them but they let go right before I called out. I couldn't monger for like a day and a half.....Be careful out there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNdy8_I7BoE.
Mr Enternational
09-10-23, 13:46
But all kidding aside what the heck were you doing at plaza botero and the iglesia at night? Sunset means it's a no go zone.Who told you that? Most of the time I go there is at night.
I have been finding a bunch of pretty 18 year old girls recently on Facebook. They always seem eager to meet with me. They always tell me that they have problems finding gringo clients on Facebook. Part of it may be that they are too inexperienced to figure out how to hook gringo clients. It does seem strange to me because they are young, attractive and provide a solid performance in bed at a reasonable price. For guys complaining about the experienced pros at the Mansion or Park Lleras, this may be the way to go.
If anyone is currently in Medellin or will be in Medellin within the week. Send me a message and I might be able to connect you with a young pretty 18 year old girl who needs cash right away. I have never been with her but she is a friend of a 18 year old girl that I saw in my last trip and I will see her on my next trip.
No, I am not a pimp.
No, I do not make any money from this transaction.
Just trying to help out young attractive girls in Medellin. Like Mother Teresa. Ja ja ja.Very odd description. How does one find girls randomly on Facebook? Are there Facebook groups or channels where girls advertise or how do you go about it?
I appreciate the info but its like saying: "Go to Medellin, there are a lot of 18 year old girls. " not super helpful.
Very odd description. How does one find girls randomly on Facebook? Are there Facebook groups or channels where girls advertise or how do you go about it?
I appreciate the info but its like saying: "Go to Medellin, there are a lot of 18 year old girls. " not super helpful.With respect. If you did a search you would find that the topic of "How To FaceBook" has been discussed many times and there is a complete guide in the 'Links to Reports of Distinction' section. Go to the Colombia forum and scan down to find it.
Very odd description. How does one find girls randomly on Facebook? Are there Facebook groups or channels where girls advertise or how do you go about it?
I appreciate the info but its like saying: "Go to Medellin, there are a lot of 18 year old girls. " not super helpful.You now know about it, right? I would say he already helped and he is one of the more generous posters that share. You can go to Report of Distinction thread to find how to more easily.
How does one find girls randomly on Facebook? Are there Facebook groups or channels where girls advertise or how do you go about it?
You don't find them randomly. You friend a guy or a guy with connections, then you review their friends and you can assume they are working girls by association.
I saw a bunch of girls near the church at night. I start walking closer and when I got within half a block I noticed they were dudes dressed up as girls.That's incredible. I been going there several years I have never seen a guy dressed up as a woman, not even during fiestas. Colombians don't seem to do that type of thing. Maybe its a Western fetish.
I've heard that a lot of girls moved to other countries. Like Panama, Mexico, Spain, some in Dominican Republic. Girl go where the money is. Who ever is willing to pay more consistently.
Remember these girls didn't just die. For some reason they are off the market or or the market moved.Believe it or not, these girls are human beings too. They have ambitions, desires. They are not going to wait for the same clients for 20 years if smthg better comes along. I believe that girls moving to different cities and countries is very normal and part of the regular life cysle of a working girl. But there are thousands of new ones coming on the market so no need to panic. Just find some new ones.
VsebudetNY
09-10-23, 15:16
Very odd description. How does one find girls randomly on Facebook? Are there Facebook groups or channels where girls advertise or how do you go about it?
I appreciate the info but its like saying: "Go to Medellin, there are a lot of 18 year old girls. " not super helpful.http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2016-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=2610518&viewfull=1#post2610518.
Careful riding the Metro during the busy hours. When the Metro doors open it's like a football team trying to get on the subway. During this rush I had 4 guys bouncing off of me and my cell phone mysteriously disappeared from my front pocket.
To the dude who's balls the tranny grabbed.
You were manhandled my friend. Jajaja. But all kidding aside what the heck were you doing at plaza botero and the iglesia at night? Sunset means it's a no go zone.
That's incredible. I been going there several years I have never seen a guy dressed up as a woman, not even during fiestas. Colombians don't seem to do that type of thing. Maybe its a Western fetish.Prior to the Pandemic, it was just as the poster described and had always been that way, especially at the corner of the Church courtyard along the walkway where the wall separates the courtyard along the building corner.
Or, you have to be kidding! LOL.
You don't find them randomly. You friend a guy or a guy with connections, then you review their friends and you can assume they are working girls by association.A1990, see below, find her followers on Facebook and add them. The issue with posting link like this is the potential of many people doing it the same time and that will diminish your return. In my opinion, she looks better than most Facebook girls.
...Also this girl insta: ktz__20 used to be a Facebook girl 6 6. 5 in my book. ...
Very odd description. How does one find girls randomly on Facebook? Are there Facebook groups or channels where girls advertise or how do you go about it?
I appreciate the info but its like saying: "Go to Medellin, there are a lot of 18 year old girls. " not super helpful.Last year, before I ever visited Medellin, I had the same questions. How do you find young attractive girls in Medellin who would like to meet older mongers to make some money on Facebook?
I was never a big Facebook user. So, I just started trying to figure it out. First I read everything I could read on this website about using Facebook to find girls. Not just 10 pages back. I probably went back a few hundred pages. And then I read everything I could on a website dedicated to Pattaya on topics related to Medellin. There were sections devoted to mongering in other countries and a handful of trip reports about Medellin. After doing that, I did find a handful of names of FB girls in Medellin and asked to be their friend. Most said yes, and then I looked through their friends and started asking to be their friend. I also looked at their gringo friends and if the friends list is open, I would steal those girls too. Once they became my friends, I searched through their friends list and then made request to be friends with the pretty ones. And then my friends list really started to take off.
There are also other techniques. The shortcut now is that website where guys review FB girls in Medellin. Another way is friends of popular Medellin nightclubs in Park LLeras. Go to their FB pages and steal those girls. There are so many techniques but you just have to be creative.
That was five months before my first trip. So basically I spent five months working diligently on building up a good list of young attractive women in Medellin.
I didn't just ask someone hey how do you find girls on Facebook. I just starting doing it after spending some time thinking about how to do it. And I am an old guy.
Now, this is what I do. I just go through the recommended friends list and make maybe 1 to 2 friend requests a week. My friends list is all young attractive women from Medellin so Facebook is only recommending young attractive women from Medellin to me. Here and there, they recommend a guy and I delete.
Now I am more picky and have been deleting friends, girls who no longer make the cut. The standard to be my FB friend now is that it has be a girl that I would actually want to meet. There is also the issue of having too many friends and then you start overlooking great girls. Need to trim the weeds from time to time to get rid of the deadwood.
But when you are first starting out, the standard should be any doable girl in Medellin who is not unattractive or too old in order to build up your list.
But I wouldn't mind investigating the prices and clinics.
Does anyone know a top notch clinic for lasik in MDE?I know there have been some reports of guys having Lasik done here successfully, however I would be very nervous having something like that done here, especially if something goes wrong which of course could happen in the States. I'm not saying you can't have a favorable outcome, but you are dealing with your eyes and if money is not an issue which a lot of times is the driver for guys getting things taken care of here, I would get it done in the States, and I know a lot of guys may think that is ridiculous but again it's your eyesight your dealing with and if something comes up it could be awkward with the language being one of the issues. I'm not dishing the medical system in Colombia, it's actually very good with some very competent Doctor's, but for something involving your eyes versus something else I would think twice about this.
Just my opinion.
StudBucket
09-10-23, 19:14
Last year, before I ever visited Medellin, I had the same questions. How do you find young attractive girls in Medellin who would like to meet older mongers to make some money on Facebook?
I was never a big Facebook user. So, I just started trying to figure it out. First I read everything I could read on this website about using Facebook to find girls. Not just 10 pages back. I probably went back a few hundred pages. And then I read everything I could on a website dedicated to Pattaya on topics related to Medellin. There were sections devoted to mongering in other countries and a handful of trip reports about Medellin. After doing that, I did find a handful of names of FB girls in Medellin and asked to be their friend. Most said yes, and then I looked through their friends and started asking to be their friend. I also looked at their gringo friends and if the friends list is open, I would steal those girls too. Once they became my friends, I searched through their friends list and then made request to be friends with the pretty ones. And then my friends list really started to take off.
There are also other techniques. The shortcut now is that website where guys review FB girls in Medellin. Another way is friends of popular Medellin nightclubs in Park LLeras. Go to their FB pages and steal those girls. There are so many techniques but you just have to be creative.
That was five months before my first trip. So basically I spent five months working diligently on building up a good list of young attractive women in Medellin.
I didn't just ask someone hey how do you find girls on Facebook. I just starting doing it after spending some time thinking about how to do it. And I am an old guy.
Now, this is what I do. I just go through the recommended friends list and make maybe 1 to 2 friend requests a week. My friends list is all young attractive women from Medellin so Facebook is only recommending young attractive women from Medellin to me. Here and there, they recommend a guy and I delete.
Now I am more picky and have been deleting friends, girls who no longer make the cut. The standard to be my FB friend now is that it has be a girl that I would actually want to meet. There is also the issue of having too many friends and then you start overlooking great girls. Need to trim the weeds from time to time to get rid of the deadwood.
But when you are first starting out, the standard should be any doable girl in Medellin who is not unattractive or too old in order to build up your list.Can you post a link to the website that rates the FB girls, that would be awesome? I have several from FB lined up for next trip and will post my reviews after. Thanks.
especially at the corner of the Church courtyard along the walkway where the wall separates the courtyard along the building corner.
Or, you have to be kidding! LOL.Not kidding at all. But am curious now, how do you tell them apart from the trans women?
StudPlayer
09-10-23, 20:10
I know there have been some reports of guys having Lasik done here successfully, however I would be very nervous having something like that done here, especially if something goes wrong which of course could happen in the States. I'm not saying you can't have a favorable outcome, but you are dealing with your eyes and if money is not an issue which a lot of times is the driver for guys getting things taken care of here, I would get it done in the States, and I know a lot of guys may think that is ridiculous but again it's your eyesight your dealing with and if something comes up it could be awkward with the language being one of the issues. I'm not dishing the medical system in Colombia, it's actually very good with some very competent Doctor's, but for something involving your eyes versus something else I would think twice about this.
Just my opinion.As a long term resident with decades of experience, I agree wih surfer.
Let me expound: many people from medellin have relatives in jail in the states.
And you don't know who is who or what is what.
You may go to a clinic where the nurse's dad brother or uncle is in jail in the states and this is her chance to fuck a gringo and she will do it.
Could be the nurse, could be the secretary, could be the doctor.
Could be anyone. You don't know.
Things like this happen every day in Colombia.
Colombia is a brutal, petty envious and jealous society and they do not like gringos at all (except for the money).
All the con mucho gusto, a la orden, plaisir servirte is bullshit.
And things have gotten real bad since the petro government took over.
Stick to enjoying anonymous stanky and when your 2 weeks 2 months or 2 years are up, use your return ticket.
But they are your dice. Roll them as you please.
Ask Osteoknot about this.
By the way, where is Osteoknot who was so enamored with Medellin he could not think straight?
I know there have been some reports of guys having Lasik done here successfully, however I would be very nervous having something like that done here, especially if something goes wrong which of course could happen in the States. I'm not saying you can't have a favorable outcome, but you are dealing with your eyes and if money is not an issue which a lot of times is the driver for guys getting things taken care of here, I would get it done in the States, and I know a lot of guys may think that is ridiculous but again it's your eyesight your dealing with and if something comes up it could be awkward with the language being one of the issues. I'm not dishing the medical system in Colombia, it's actually very good with some very competent Doctor's, but for something involving your eyes versus something else I would think twice about this.
Just my opinion.I had lasik done in the states 25 years ago. Still 20/20. You have to be out of your mind to do lasik anywhere else but America. Read all the horror stories of bad lasik jobs in America, much less Colombia or Mexico. It's your eyes not a teeth cleaning.
Yes, that is a very good tip. Whenever you are in a crowded space you have to be extra vigilant of your valuables. I've been lucky by making myself extra sensitive to any touches near my pockets and ignoring anything else. The distraction bump is a classic pickpocket tactic. Another old and reliable tactic is an attractive woman brushing near or touching your groin area. It's male human nature to focus on that unless you are on guard for it. A final additional tip is if you use your phone on the metro watch out for thieves who will try to grab it and jump off the train just as the doors close.
Careful riding the Metro during the busy hours. When the Metro doors open it's like a football team trying to get on the subway. During this rush I had 4 guys bouncing off of me and my cell phone mysteriously disappeared from my front pocket.
Yes, that is a very good tip. Whenever you are in a crowded space you have to be extra vigilant of your valuables. I've been lucky by making myself extra sensitive to any touches near my pockets and ignoring anything else. The distraction bump is a classic pickpocket tactic. Another old and reliable tactic is an attractive woman brushing near or touching your groin area. It's male human nature to focus on that unless you are on guard for it. A final additional tip is if you use your phone on the metro watch out for thieves who will try to grab it and jump off the train just as the doors close.Today I boarded the Metro in Poblado at around noon headed towards Centro and a bunch of tourists boarded the Metro besides me and two guys had their smart phones in their back pockets with about an inch of their phones sticking out. You talk about easy prey, it amazes me how naive some of the tourists are here.
StudBucket
09-11-23, 02:42
Yes, that is a very good tip. Whenever you are in a crowded space you have to be extra vigilant of your valuables. I've been lucky by making myself extra sensitive to any touches near my pockets and ignoring anything else. The distraction bump is a classic pickpocket tactic. Another old and reliable tactic is an attractive woman brushing near or touching your groin area. It's male human nature to focus on that unless you are on guard for it. A final additional tip is if you use your phone on the metro watch out for thieves who will try to grab it and jump off the train just as the doors close.One thing I do is when I am walking in an area with a lot of people at night like Calle 10 is to keep my left hand in my pocket as I walk keeping a clutch on my money clip and just looking nonchalant.
This is almost certain to end with a big disappointment for you my friend. Simple rule of thumb anytime a chica quotes you in Dollars, run Forrest run! The service will be poor, she will try to keep extracting $ from you and it will get awkward and that works to her advantage as you go limp and get turned off. She will get her trip her $250 or $400 and her IG pics from wherever she makes you take her in MDE. And you return home holding your dick and hopefully wiser even if your pockets are a $1 k lighter.Yea I know, I told her I'm not giving her that, she said she still wants to see me, so she'll take $80.
As a long term resident with decades of experience, I agree wih surfer.
Let me expound: many people from medellin have relatives in jail in the states.
And you don't know who is who or what is what.
You may go to a clinic where the nurse's dad brother or uncle is in jail in the states and this is her chance to fuck a gringo and she will do it.
Could be the nurse, could be the secretary, could be the doctor.
Could be anyone. You don't know.
Things like this happen every day in Colombia.
Colombia is a brutal, petty envious and jealous society and they do not like gringos at all (except for the money).
All the con mucho gusto, a la orden, plaisir servirte is bullshit.
And things have gotten real bad since the petro government took over.
Stick to enjoying anonymous stanky and when your 2 weeks 2 months or 2 years are up, use your return ticket.
But they are your dice. Roll them as you please.
Ask Osteoknot about this.
By the way, where is Osteoknot who was so enamored with Medellin he could not think straight?Didn't we kill Pablo for them. Why do they hate us again. Is this hatred for Americans that seems to be worldwide a jealousy thing or is it the war mongering thing. If it's the war mongering, I understand but any other reason seems odd. Especially since we give billions of aid everywhere with money we have to borrow. LOL.
Mr Enternational
09-11-23, 04:58
Let me expound: many people from medellin have relatives in jail in the states. And you don't know who is who or what is what. You may go to a clinic where the nurse's dad brother or uncle is in jail in the states and this is her chance to fuck a gringo and she will do it.LOL. WHAT? Some of you guys have some weird and far fetched imaginations. It is more so because in the USA you can sue if something goes wrong. In most other countries you are doing it at your own risk. Something goes wrong and too bad so sad. There is nobody in a doctor's office waiting to do harm to someone because their relative is in jail.
So this girl from pereira wants to come see me in Medellin, I'm not to sure, she's 20 and I just found out she has a kid and is a single mom, what you guys think.
So this girl from pereira wants to come see me in Medellin, I'm not to sure, she's 20 and I just found out she has a kid and is a single mom, what you guys think.If you want to see her you see her. If her having a kid turns you off you don't see her. Personally if she has a kid and she's hot enough I will see her everyday but I don't want to see the kid. Also aside from the fact that she would most likely have a bunch of bodies, let's ignore that, I wouldn't commit to a girl who has a kid. It's like picking up where someone left off.
I met this girl one time in Santo Domingo. Her pictures where so good she might've not been real. But after a bait and switch and persisting that wanted the right girl, she came to me at 7 am. It was the best sex of my life. She's exactly my type and I haven't met any one that looks better than her. Taller with nice books but skinny body and olive skin super pretty face. I had her every day for a week. Then the next year I had her every day at punta cana for week and we went to Cali together and I found out she had 2 kids from 2 different guys. I would never commit but she sure was hot.
Mr Enternational
09-11-23, 16:38
Didn't we kill Pablo for them. Why do they hate us again.Who is we? The 2 DEA agents were in an interview recently and said it was all Colombian people that found him and killed him. They could not even carry weapons to kill him if they wanted to.
One thing I do is when I am walking in an area with a lot of people at night like Calle 10 is to keep my left hand in my pocket as I walk keeping a clutch on my money clip and just looking nonchalant.A combo team with the hard bump technique will still work to grab your money due to the distraction and then quickly pass it off to another team member. Hand in her pocket tells thieves where your money is and which pocket to target. It is better not to put your money in your pockets. There are other places such as a money belt. But to each, his own.
So this girl from pereira wants to come see me in Medellin, I'm not to sure, she's 20 and I just found out she has a kid and is a single mom, what you guys think.She looks like she's going to scopolamine your ass. My vote says no don't send a dime or buy any bus tickets!
So this girl from pereira wants to come see me in Medellin, I'm not to sure, she's 20 and I just found out she has a kid and is a single mom, what you guys think.Try simplify things to only date girls that can come in a taxi or Uber from her place within an hour.
Maybe someone can help you if you can describe what is unique about her that you can't find someone like her in Medellin.
MongerHunger
09-11-23, 19:01
So this girl from pereira wants to come see me in Medellin, I'm not to sure, she's 20 and I just found out she has a kid and is a single mom, what you guys think.She looks very average.
Try simplify things to only date girls that can come in a taxi or Uber from her place within an hour.
Maybe someone can help you if you can describe what is unique about her that you can't find someone like her in Medellin.I never been to Medellin, was worried about the drugging thing and the gringos and hoodrats over taking the place, so I thought let me import something just in case.
So this girl from pereira wants to come see me in Medellin, I'm not to sure, she's 20 and I just found out she has a kid and is a single mom, what you guys think.I had two Venezolas in Dominican Republic. One was 30. Super sexy MILF with 36 Double Dee tits on a great body. Loved to fuck and suck. The other was 21 and drop dead gorgeous even without makeup. Also very busty. I would give anything to see either of them again but alas they have disappeared. I will try the Venezolan casa in Santo Domingo in November tho. Salud.
So this girl from pereira wants to come see me in Medellin, I'm not to sure, she's 20 and I just found out she has a kid and is a single mom, what you guys think.She is a H0 e. Don't do it unless that's what your looking for?
ElSexoChino7
09-12-23, 01:27
So this girl from pereira wants to come see me in Medellin, I'm not to sure, she's 20 and I just found out she has a kid and is a single mom, what you guys think.Why do you need validation from someone? It's your money, if you want to hit it that bad, you go get the job done. Always take precautions with random girls. I fucked a lot of single moms over my years of mongering in Colombia and only few of them were bad but mostly gave me a good run for my money. As long as the pussy is tight and doesn't smell that's all that matters LOL.
I read the question to be about safety. If that's what it is about my advice is to err on the side of caution and meet her in a hotel and leave your valuables at home.
Why do you need validation from someone? It's your money, if you want to hit it that bad, you go get the job done. Always take precautions with random girls. I fucked a lot of single moms over my years of mongering in Colombia and only few of them were bad but mostly gave me a good run for my money. As long as the pussy is tight and doesn't smell that's all that matters LOL.
So this girl from pereira wants to come see me in Medellin, I'm not to sure, she's 20 and I just found out she has a kid and is a single mom, what you guys think.You may not know this, but there are already women in Medellin. There's no need to fly them in from all over the country.
What's the current standard price in centro? Is it still 30 K + room? Raudal 50 + room?
Maha Siddha
09-12-23, 05:14
Dear All.
I am planning a trip to Medellin for a month arriving mid-November before Thanksgiving.
I messaged seven Airbnb ask for day visitors and occasionally nighttime visitors.
One says no sex tourism. And one says I have to pay if the visitor stays after dawn.
The rests are cool with it. (One says the guest need to register at the door.).
So, is there any specific neighborhood to stay as long? It's good as long as not too far from Metro?
Thanks for the help.
Why do you need validation from someone? It's your money, if you want to hit it that bad, you go get the job done. Always take precautions with random girls. I fucked a lot of single moms over my years of mongering in Colombia and only few of them were bad but mostly gave me a good run for my money. As long as the pussy is tight and doesn't smell that's all that matters LOL.Not looking for validation, just more experienced guys to give me some feedback. It's my first time in Colombia, want to know if seeing a Venezuelan chick with a spider tat near her coochie was a good idea LOL I'll also be mingling on the streets, so willing to next her if need be.
I had two Venezolas in Dominican Republic. One was 30. Super sexy MILF with 36 Double Dee tits on a great body. Loved to fuck and suck. The other was 21 and drop dead gorgeous even without makeup. Also very busty. I would give anything to see either of them again but alas they have disappeared. I will try the Venezolan casa in Santo Domingo in November tho. Salud.Damn I have two girls in Bogota ready for a threesome right now. I'm going to Paris after I leave Medellin though, so maybe another time LOL. Can you recommend where I can meet normal non pros in Medellin? I already see the airbnbs are strict on sex tourism, plus the other guys out there acting like they discovered heaven because they finally get attention from women. Also hearing they're sleeping with the underage girls as well.
I'm not sure what you or anyone else means by "normal" or "non pro" girls. If you are asking where to go to find women who will have sex with you in exchange for money, RTFF applies. Otherwise you could join book groups or attend church services.
Damn I have two girls in Bogota ready for a threesome right now. I'm going to Paris after I leave Medellin though, so maybe another time LOL. Can you recommend where I can meet normal non pros in Medellin? I already see the airbnbs are strict on sex tourism, plus the other guys out there acting like they discovered heaven because they finally get attention from women. Also hearing they're sleeping with the underage girls as well.
More girls ask for 40 K + room these days. You can still get most for 30 K + room. The barrier fence still has most of the girls squeezed along the side and behind the church. I don't expect the fence to last past Christmas after the current mayor is gone.
What's the current standard price in centro? Is it still 30 K + room? Raudal 50 + room?
Going to Medellin for Halloween and I'm having a hard time finding guest friendly spots any plugs on them?
Thanks.
DramaFree11
09-12-23, 14:46
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Going to Medellin for Halloween and I'm having a hard time finding guest friendly spots any plugs on them?
Thanks.I recommend starting with filtering for "self check in. " It's tedious work but there are normally plenty of options. Most won't say in the listing they are guest friendly. You also need to inbox the host, confirm guests are allowed and ask if there are additional fees. If there is a doorman or it's a hotel setup, some will try to charge an exorbitant fee for each guest. It's also good to make sure there is a safe either as an amenity in the listing or by asking in your message to the host.
Dear All.
I am planning a trip to Medellin for a month arriving mid-November before Thanksgiving.
I messaged seven Airbnb ask for day visitors and occasionally nighttime visitors.
One says no sex tourism. And one says I have to pay if the visitor stays after dawn.
The rests are cool with it. (One says the guest need to register at the door.).
So, is there any specific neighborhood to stay as long? It's good as long as not too far from Metro?
Thanks for the help.Stay in the vicinity of poblado / parque Lleras. It's the safest place for foreigners. Lots of restaurants and clubs, very walkable, and generally safe. Still, keep your head on a swivel don't take your eyes off your drink, and don't walk around with your pricey valuable phone out on display.
I highly recommend you "mingle on the streets" while in Medellin, especially if it's your first time here.
A good time to go is after 9 PM in and around the Botero Plaza area.
You won't be disappointed, as some of Medellin's finest start showing up later in the evening, no different than other mongering venues around the World.
And you shouldn't let a spider tat on a Venezuelan near her twat deter you from "nexting" a Venezuelan, but a tat in this area on a Colombian is a different matter.
Have fun while your in town and be safe.Thanks, appreciate it. Do you know if laureles also has action?
JohnnieCash
09-12-23, 21:34
And you shouldn't let a spider tat on a Venezuelan near her twat deter you from "nexting" a Venezuelan...To err on a safe side OP should look of a good catholic girl, so one with a tat of the cross near her twat or between her tits.
Also, a business casual outfit could be a good idea for the evening mingling near the Botero Plaza, or perhaps even a black tie, so one doesn't stick out too much in this classy area.
Going to Medellin for Halloween and I'm having a hard time finding guest friendly spots any plugs on them?
.Google or search for "Energy Living" on airbnb or.
http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/...
FlyGuyEddie007
09-12-23, 22:19
I never been to Medellin, was worried about the drugging thing and the gringos and hoodrats over taking the place, so I thought let me import something just in case.This is exactly my concern as well. I was going to go down there in November, but I push back my vacation till February. I'm going to go to the La mansion Super Bowl weekend already have a room reserved provided there's drugging crap everything down there gets a little better I'm pretty sure the girls at the hotel are going to be safe and not doing that because they don't want to cut off their long term money but it's a gamble meeting some woman outside of the hotel.
I see recent video on YouTube, where a guy went on the third date with a girl, and she drugged him on the third date not the first day, not the second date of the third date and robbed him.
This is exactly my concern as well....Did you read this?
Yellow Taxi; Robbery Scheme near Provenza
Hey all, a friend of my mine was recently robbed at gun point for his iPhone and watch while walking home from Provenza....
Dear All.
I am planning a trip to Medellin for a month arriving mid-November before Thanksgiving.
I messaged seven Airbnb ask for day visitors and occasionally nighttime visitors.
One says no sex tourism. And one says I have to pay if the visitor stays after dawn.
The rests are cool with it. (One says the guest need to register at the door.).
So, is there any specific neighborhood to stay as long? It's good as long as not too far from Metro?
Thanks for the help.Anywhere in Poblado or Laureles is fine. It doesn't have to be close to the Metro. You can always take Uber for a few bucks anywhere you need to go. The FB and Seeking girls don't take the Metro. They take taxis so distance from Metro not important for mongering purposes.
Did you read this?My friend was drugged and robbed after scopolamine drugging last week, Colombia is going to lose tourism if nothing is done, dangerous place.
ElSexoChino7
09-13-23, 04:04
A good time to go is after 9 PM in and around the Botero Plaza area.
I thought it is not safe to be in this area when the sun goes down??
What's the strategy here?
Between all the druggings and all the top tier girls traveling and the uglier ones trying to charge more in lleras it simply isn't appealing as a monger destination.
Guys are barebacking 200 mil hookers and bragging about it while aids is on a noticeable rise in mde.
Even the big spenders and simps realize it's not even that much fun anymore. Druggings of foreigners are a once or twice a week thing now. Robberies of foreigners is a daily thing.
As a mongering destination I don't think it's worth it.
I had a great time in Bogota. And I see Jaco is making a comeback so I might have to check that out also.
I highly recommend you "mingle on the streets" while in Medellin, especially if it's your first time here.
A good time to go is after 9 PM in and around the Botero Plaza area.
You won't be disappointed, as some of Medellin's finest start showing up later in the evening, no different than other mongering venues around the World.
And you shouldn't let a spider tat on a Venezuelan near her twat deter you from "nexting" a Venezuelan, but a tat in this area on a Colombian is a different matter.
Have fun while your in town and be safe.Don't forget to bring your iPhone 14 pro max. You are going to need that larger screen when you are what's apping girls outside at 2 am in el centro. The lighting is bad at that time.
10:00 PM tonight two guys tried robbing a local wearing a backpack between the metro and the church in front of Hotel Calle Real. The guy kept his phone and the 2 guys got away walking past the church towards the bars. Police came 5 minutes later from the metro side but after chatting the guy for 5 minutes turned and returned back heading back towards the metro. The front of the guy's shoulder near the collar bone was bleeding (2 inch circle). Not sure what caused the bleeding because I did not see a hole in his shirt. Maybe small knife? I went to my hotel ASAP. I am usually in by 9:00 but was bored so people watched. Silly me.Typically the posts here are about gringos getting jacked up, but the reality is that it's probably over 99% locals.
And as your post illustrates, walking around Centro later in the evening by yourself is not safe for anyone, whether your a monger or a local.
And yes, the guy you mentioned got stabbed with a small knife, and lots of locals carrying them, including the girls working the streets.
It's unfortunate that you, and others I know staying in Centro pretty much don't go out much after 9 PM because of the way things are there and I wouldn't be out either.
Between all the druggings and all the top tier girls traveling and the uglier ones trying to charge more in lleras it simply isn't appealing as a monger destination.
Guys are barebacking 200 mil hookers and bragging about it while aids is on a noticeable rise in mde.
Even the big spenders and simps realize it's not even that much fun anymore. Druggings of foreigners are a once or twice a week thing now. Robberies of foreigners is a daily thing.
As a mongering destination I don't think it's worth it.
I had a great time in Bogota. And I see Jaco is making a comeback so I might have to check that out also.It's unfortunate how things have changed here, yet more and more mongers are showing up here, and as an example a lot of hardcore Tijuana mongers who come here are typically enamored with MDE.
So in this particular instance MDE has become a mongering destination for them, and many others as well who used to frequent SEA.
Yet for others MDE has lost it's luster and rightly so for all the reasons you mention.
John Gault
09-13-23, 16:41
Between all the druggings and all the top tier girls traveling and the uglier ones trying to charge more in lleras it simply isn't appealing as a monger destination.
Guys are barebacking 200 mil hookers and bragging about it while aids is on a noticeable rise in mde.
Even the big spenders and simps realize it's not even that much fun anymore. Druggings of foreigners are a once or twice a week thing now. Robberies of foreigners is a daily thing.
As a mongering destination I don't think it's worth it.
I had a great time in Bogota. And I see Jaco is making a comeback so I might have to check that out also.I'm here for 34 days and Partners he is correct. It has really gone down hill. I don't think it has been said enough that the amount of attacks against Gringos are mostly unreported. Really the police think gringos are stupid.
A few months ago I was cut on my hand from a knife attack and as I was getting a bandage a cop was there and he quickly walkede away when he saw me.
StudPlayer
09-13-23, 17:37
Here is a link to an interesting article:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-09-13/tourism-remote-workers-in-medellin-spark-local-tensions
I thought it is not safe to be in this area when the sun goes down??
What's the strategy here?It's not static. Within Plaza Botero is less safe when it is more or less deserted after the police is gone. People still go to the strip clubs. It is safer on the side of the strip club, then on the opposite side of the road. Taking metro to leave may be safer compared to waiting for Uber outside. It's better to wait inside but you will eventually go outside and may need to use your phone to locate the waiting Uber. That has risk vs just walk straight to metro. There are vendors that only come out at night which means people go there at night. You basically have to be familiar with the area so you don't get lost in the areas that are much less safe. There are other problems like anyone can come up to you to ask you for something. Are you going to give him / her anything?
It's unfortunate how things have changed here, yet more and more mongers are showing up here, and as an example a lot of hardcore Tijuana mongers who come here are typically enamored with MDE.
So in this particular instance MDE has become a mongering destination for them, and many others as well who used to frequent SEA.
Yet for others MDE has lost it's luster and rightly so for all the reasons you mention.A girl in Bogota told me right now Mexicans are infatuated with mongering in Colombia.
A girl in Bogota told me right now Mexicans are infatuated with mongering in Colombia.There are very few real Mexicans in Colombia. It's more likely that they are pochos (US born citizens of mexican decent) who are posing as Mexicans who are in Colombia.
Medclubber
09-14-23, 01:18
I'm here for 34 days and Partners he is correct. It has really gone down hill. I don't think it has been said enough that the amount of attacks against Gringos are mostly unreported. Really the police think gringos are stupid.
A few months ago I was cut on my hand from a knife attack and as I was getting a bandage a cop was there and he quickly walkede away when he saw me.It's sad indeed. Ever since Petro took office, things have gone down hill quickly!
Arrived in Medellíand after 4 nights in Panama. Part of my bday week and figured since all the girls in Panama were from Medellin, why not.
Lodging: Stayed at the Haven Hotel of Calle 10 A, about 3 blocks from Lleras. Very nice place, great rooftop bar and food. We booked the 2 br suite where each room has a jacuzzi. All in, about $125 per person per night. Website says one free visitor per day and 100 k fee after that. Had no issue getting our visitors for free in and never got a chance to test the fee for second in same day. Great staff.
Transportation. Airport was 98 k in, 120 k out (4 am) about $20 and $30 respectively.
Tour. Did Guatape and El Peñol with Andes Adventures. Highly recommend.
Night 1: Lleras. Man that place is insane. After getting hounded by 58 promoters, and seeing nothing but what looked like bottom of the barrel, we grabbed some seats and a table outside just down from Gusto. We chilled there for about 2 hrs and some better options started rolling in around 10/11 pm. Talked to a few but we not impressed with the quality vs asking prices. And tbh, quite a noticeable number looked straight up underage. We passed as we'the just had some that morning in Panama and had other options for night 2.
Night 2. Ordered in. So, as we were flying down the day before, we cast the usual wide nets, this time a mix of PP and ME. By midday we'the settled on a nice late 20's 8 or so from PP and she'the sent a picture of her cousin who was nice looking too. Rate was 300 k - $80 / HR. We both wanted to hang with them, have some jacuzzi time etc so we negotiated for 1 M for the evening, which ended up being about 4 hrs. They were awesome. Super friendly, relaxed, we ordered room service and then bucket naked fun. BBBJ and she grabbed my hands and told me to grab her head. Man. Then session began mish, CG, a quatro, told me to slap that booty. Damn. After about an hour, and three body trembling orgasms on her part (I don't enjoy this shit unless they come, and I will do whatever it takes LOL mostly) I let mine rip. Whew. I'm going back will see her again.
We had w other alternatives. I had one who quoted me 1. 2 M for amanecida or 170 k per hour and the one that got away was a nice college girl at 220 k who spoke amazing English that I will definitely see next trip. We chatted for like 3 weeks before the trip but shit just fell thru. Aside from that, I'm building my Rolodex with the ones I met in Panama who will be back home soon.
All this to say there's really good options online if you do the verifications and are nice. Maybe I'll try Lleras next time but man they really looked skanky last week.
On to Aruba.
LoveItHere
09-14-23, 08:13
I did it again. Stayed out till 10:15 pm near the church. Late 20 year old girl grabbed an older local with backpack trying to get him upstairs to do the deed. He was not interested. She grabbed his shirt hard so he could not get away. She got her BIG girl friend to come help her. The BIG girl stood beside him but did not help because there were 5 people right their and in the bright light. If the 5 people were not there I am sure the BIG girl would have helped.
Last week a foreigner who should know better got pick-pocketed around 8:00 pm near the church. Two girls were hugging and loving up on him and his ego went into high gear and his brain dropped into reverse. He figured it out and grabbed her and forced her to sit on the bench as he checked his pockets. He let her go and the two girls ran away into the night with 70,000 mil / $18 USD. I laughed at him because he was an idiot. He told me he was leaving in the morning and I laughed harder. Too damn funny that his last memory was going to be that.
YOU do not belong in Centro after 8:30. Truth be told I am starting to feel like I do not belong here either at any time. May be my last trip or at least my second to last trip. The girls just are not enough reason to be here. Other areas of Medellin are not much better or the other cities I have been to.
Correction. Last night I believe the guy probably received a bloody hand when thrown to the pavement. Then transfered the blood near his collar bone when he took off his backpack when speaking to the police. Based on the blood pattern on his shirt. Drama running amuck temporarily in my head.
I did it again. Stayed out till 10:15 pm near the church. Late 20 year old girl grabbed an older local with backpack trying to get him upstairs to do the deed. He was not interested. She grabbed his shirt hard so he could not get away. She got her BIG girl friend to come help her. The BIG girl stood beside him but did not help because there were 5 people right their and in the bright light. If the 5 people were not there I am sure the BIG girl would have helped.
Last week a foreigner who should know better got pick-pocketed around 8:00 pm near the church. Two girls were hugging and loving up on him and his ego went into high gear and his brain dropped into reverse. He figured it out and grabbed her and forced her to sit on the bench as he checked his pockets. He let her go and the two girls ran away into the night with 70,000 mil / $18 USD. I laughed at him because he was an idiot. He told me he was leaving in the morning and I laughed harder. Too damn funny that his last memory was going to be that.
YOU do not belong in Centro after 8:30. Truth be told I am starting to feel like I do not belong here either at any time. May be my last trip or at least my second to last trip. The girls just are not enough reason to be here. Other areas of Medellin are not much better or the other cities I have been to..You can stay in Santa Fe redlight area till late without problems-- There are way more Girls too Hot Ones! -- 8+ Blocks of Streetie Sweeties and 8+ Great Clubs with Hot Slutty girls.
Santa Fe is the Disneyland for guys-- Great Friggen Rides -- So Many Hot Girls -- So Little Time.
I did it again. Stayed out till 10:15 pm near the church. Late 20 year old girl grabbed an older local with backpack trying to get him upstairs to do the deed. He was not interested. She grabbed his shirt hard so he could not get away. She got her BIG girl friend to come help her. The BIG girl stood beside him but did not help because there were 5 people right their and in the bright light. If the 5 people were not there I am sure the BIG girl would have helped.Big girls scare the fuck out of me. Like on next Friday, the little sister that's bigger than the big sister lmao.
No Bueno!
It's sad indeed. Ever since Petro took office, things have gone down hill quickly!Glad I went when I did.
You can stay in Santa Fe redlight area till late without problems-- There are way more Girls too Hot Ones! -- 8+ Blocks of Streetie Sweeties and 8+ Great Clubs with Hot Slutty girls.
Santa Fe is the Disneyland for guys-- Great Friggen Rides -- So Many Hot Girls -- So Little Time.Agreed. Same quality as la isla for for 150 k 20 minutes instead of 550 k 30 minutes. But ig not as safe. That's what you're paying for at la isla. Safety. I would still do Santa Fe over la isla. I would only put Santa Fe above la isla if the prices come down to 350 k again.
There is an article in bloomberg.com today about Medellin. Tourist number is going to explode.
I'm here for 34 days and Partners he is correct. It has really gone down hill. I don't think it has been said enough that the amount of attacks against Gringos are mostly unreported. Really the police think gringos are stupid.
A few months ago I was cut on my hand from a knife attack and as I was getting a bandage a cop was there and he quickly walkede away when he saw me.
Agreed. Same quality as la isla for for 150 k 20 minutes instead of 550 k 30 minutes. But ig not as safe. That's what you're paying for at la isla. Safety. I would still do Santa Fe over la isla. I would only put Santa Fe above la isla if the prices come down to 350 k again.SF girls and La Isla girls are in completely different leagues quality wise. You can compare SF to street sweeties of El Centro, but not to the most high end strip club in Medellin. Sure, La Isla got some bad apples, but overall quality is far superior. And since the rates are fixed, even though pricey, you can choose any girls you want for the same price. SF and El Centro are great only for someone on a limited budget, with low standards (can fuck pretty much anyone). My first 9/10 I did fuck at La Isla, when I first got to Medellin about 8 yrs ago. The girl was a fitness model with 6-pack abs. Cost me around $100 back then. You can't find a fitness model in a dump place like SF or El Centro.
LoveItHere
09-15-23, 05:38
More people out tonight so stayed till 10:00 pm again. My sleep pattern is all screwed up.
The thief girl asks me for money and not in a friendly way. I never give anything and she moved on.
9:30 pm police van and motorcycle pull up at the church / Mor Dis because / pharmacy corner. They walk down the pathway towards bar street. One guy has the child arm patch and they are checking IDs for underage girls. None were there and the guys were sitting together chatting and the girls were sitting together chatting so the guys were not trying to pickup any of the girls. Police make their way down the alley. The big girl from the night before has been chatting with the gringos off and on earlier. After the police leave she tells one of the gringos that the police wanted one of the girls to pretend to be too young so they could make money off the gringos (extortion).
I speak no Spanish so no idea if this was said of not. Sadly, the other gringo who speaks Spanish was not smart enough to ask the other girls if they too were asked to do the same thing (lie about their age). I try to verify stories I hear and this was important to know. I learned before not to have him ask intelligent questions. It gets watered down and lost in translation.
You can stay in Santa Fe redlight area till late without problems-- There are way more Girls too Hot Ones! -- 8+ Blocks of Streetie Sweeties and 8+ Great Clubs with Hot Slutty girls.
Stayed one month and hated it. Miserably cold. She did not want me touching her with my cold hands and I did not want her touching me with her cold hands. People and dog piss and shit everywhere.
Stayed one month and hated it. Miserably cold. She did not want me touching her with my cold hands and I did not want her touching me with her cold hands. People and dog piss and shit everywhere.I hate the hot sticky MDE weather- I am from LA and do not miss the hot weather-- Sure some areas are dirty-- but not the RedLight area.
You came at the wrong time there are some rainy periods but the last 6 months have been Great spring days during summer-- If you look on the Bogotá section you will se plenty of Happy reports -- not like here-- Good luck-.
It's sad indeed. Ever since Petro took office, things have gone down hill quickly!Nice anecdote.
My contacts tell me crime is way down. Good news indeed. Thanks to petro.
Blue Touch
09-15-23, 14:34
I did it again. Stayed out till 10:15 pm near the church. Late 20 year old girl grabbed an older local with backpack trying to get him upstairs to do the deed. He was not interested. She grabbed his shirt hard so he could not get away. She got her BIG girl friend to come help her. The BIG girl stood beside him but did not help because there were 5 people right their and in the bright light. If the 5 people were not there I am sure the BIG girl would have helped.
Last week a foreigner who should know better got pick-pocketed around 8:00 pm near the church. Two girls were hugging and loving up on him and his ego went into high gear and his brain dropped into reverse. He figured it out and grabbed her and forced her to sit on the bench as he checked his pockets. He let her go and the two girls ran away into the night with 70,000 mil / $18 USD. I laughed at him because he was an idiot. He told me he was leaving in the morning and I laughed harder. Too damn funny that his last memory was going to be that.
YOU do not belong in Centro after 8:30. Truth be told I am starting to feel like I do not belong here either at any time. May be my last trip or at least my second to last trip. The girls just are not enough reason to be here. Other areas of Medellin are not much better or the other cities I have been to..There have been rude loud-mouth gringos hanging around a bench at the Veracruz since the beginning of Covid pandemic, and they are inviting problems to other foreigners. These overweight, unattractive guys act obnoxious, drink with working girls and fight with local punks on the center of promenade. Locals hate them. Most of them had their belongings stolen and some of them were extorted to pay money for their security. Basically they are advertising that foreigners are easy to be stolen and they deserved to be so. Just be careful at Botero and stay away from local hustlers and loud-mouth gringos.
GeneHickman
09-15-23, 16:00
Nice anecdote.
My contacts tell me crime is way down. Good news indeed. Thanks to petro.IDK where you are getting your info from but crime on Gringos is up. Whether that is a function of more gringos going there and being stupid or being targettid I'll stay curious about. But definitely the number of scopings and robbery v Gringos is up compared to pre pandemic.
GeneHickman
09-15-23, 16:15
There are very few real Mexicans in Colombia. It's more likely that they are pochos (US born citizens of mexican decent) who are posing as Mexicans who are in Colombia.Exactly high end Mexican narcos know not to go to Colombia, they would more likely find local or get their chicas flown in to Mexico. The lower end ones or regular guys choose local options.
IDK where you are getting your info from but crime on Gringos is up. My claim is anecdotal, same as yours. You say its up, I say its down. Whete is your evidence to support your claim?
I know many guys that stay in centro and have been coming many years. They all say its far safer now than it used to be. Used to bevery dangerous, wheteas now they feel more confident walking around, even at night.
MongerHunger
09-15-23, 18:56
There have been rude loud-mouth gringos hanging around a bench at the Veracruz since the beginning of Covid pandemic, and they are inviting problems to other foreigners. These overweight, unattractive guys act obnoxious, drink with working girls and fight with local punks on the center of promenade. Locals hate them. Most of them had their belongings stolen and some of them were extorted to pay money for their security. Basically they are advertising that foreigners are easy to be stolen and they deserved to be so. Just be careful at Botero and stay away from local hustlers and loud-mouth gringos.I've seen those old gringos before sitting and drinking with the chicas near the Vera Cruz mall. Sometimes they have music blasting and trying to look cool. It's kind of funny to me. They look very out of place. The first time I seen them I was like WTF?
To the dude who's balls the tranny grabbed.
You were manhandled my friend. Jajaja. But all kidding aside what the heck were you doing at plaza botero and the iglesia at night? Sunset means it's a no go zone.LOL, manhandled indeed! It was my first time there and I was in my early 30's. I had a hotel in botero and was scouting for some action (just not that kind of action). Many years later, I tried going out at night just to see what I had missed. It def wasn't worth it. The girls wanted more money than the casas and they upsold like crazy. At the time the casa girls were hotter too.
My claim is anecdotal, same as yours. You say its up, I say its down. Whete is your evidence to support your claim?
I know many guys that stay in centro and have been coming many years. They all say its far safer now than it used to be. Used to be very dangerous, where as now they feel more confident walking around, even at night.It's reasonable to assume that as tourist numbers have increased in recent years, so will crimes against tourists, so the raw number goes up but the crimes per capita (percentage) is more likely to have gone down.
This article says there were 25 foreigners killed in Medellin in 2022.
https://crisis24.garda.com/alerts/2023/03/colombia-police-investigation-into-death-of-foreign-national-in-medellin-ongoing-as-of-march-3#text=However%2 see%20 authorities%20 have%20 reported%20 a,killed%20 in%20 Medellin%20 in%202022.
However the number of international visitors to Medellin in 2022 was over 1. 4 million.
https://www.medellincolombia.co/general-information/medellin-factfile/#text=Medellin%20 Tourism%20 Figures&text=Medellin%20 saw%201%2 C400%2 C000%20 international%20 visitors%20 in%202022.
That's a rate of 1. 7 homicides per 100,000 which makes it safer than most US cities. The avg for Colombia is 27.1, the US is 6. 8, I'm taking the risk as the UK is 1. 2.
As for crime in general, getting mugged, drugged, whatever. It's the same rule as travelling anywhere, just don't be stupid. Don't walk around strange neighbourhoods at night, don't walk around with your expensive phone out, don't start shit with the locals, don't get so drunk you can't find your way home, don't accept candy from strangers, that kind of thing. Same rules as Thailand, the Philippines, Barcelona or New Orleans. If you're not a complete idiot Medellin is perfectly safe.
The best thing you can do to avoid a dangerous situation is to look out for and avoid them. No matter where in the world you are.
There have been rude loud-mouth gringos hanging around a bench at the Veracruz since the beginning of Covid pandemic, and they are inviting problems to other foreigners. These overweight, unattractive guys act obnoxious, drink with working girls and fight with local punks on the center of promenade. Locals hate them. Most of them had their belongings stolen and some of them were extorted to pay money for their security. Basically they are advertising that foreigners are easy to be stolen and they deserved to be so. Just be careful at Botero and stay away from local hustlers and loud-mouth gringos.I know exactly who you are talking about there's this one gringo with Grey hair and a Grey beard that sits on the bench in front of the glass walkway talking loud in English all obnoxious and shit.
And during my last trip in May and June there was what looked like East LA Pochos on the other end down by the panaderia that were being rude and obnoxious too. I had found a cute petite vennie near the panaderia I was making small talk to in Spanish to see if I liked her vibe and out of nowhere the fake Mexicans started yelling at me in English they were like "you look like a gangster" then I just ignored them and the vennie and I walked off towards hotel brisas de jardin by the casino there and she dropped a coin and I was like "se te cayo una moneda" and I picked it up and handed it to her. Then after the fake Mexicans realized I was ignoring them they started yelling "south side" just like that in English at the top of their lungs. It made me feel very uncomfortable to say the least.
Quintero or the local police or whoever should get rid of these scumbags. Charge them with some kind of fake crime or something and deport them back to the US. They look like the kind of people you see in the US living in tents and smoking fentanyl. I say round them up and get them the fuck out of here.
There is an article in bloomberg.com today about Medellin. Tourist number is going to explode.Agree. I think some of us are old enough to remember the articles about Buenos Aires in the mid 2000's and how things exploded after that. Thankfully that was a further and more expensive flight. Not such barrier for Medellin!
My claim is anecdotal, same as yours. You say its up, I say its down. Whete is your evidence to support your claim?
I know many guys that stay in centro and have been coming many years. They all say its far safer now than it used to be. Used to bevery dangerous, wheteas now they feel more confident walking around, even at night.Just my opinion but I don't think it's any safer at night now than before the Pandemic or even several years ago.
The only difference now is that with the barricading around the Botero and Veracruz area and the increased daytime police presence it is safer during the daytime, but at night when everything is shut down, no different than before, but now more gringos are out at night than before, but there's also been lot's of reports of guys getting jacked up no different now than in the past.
I also think that a lot of guys who frequent Centro at night have become more astute about their surroundings, meaning things to be aware of, hence they feel more confident as you mention, and think it's safer now than in the past, but it isn't.
SF girls and La Isla girls are in completely different leagues quality wise. You can compare SF to street sweeties of El Centro, but not to the most high end strip club in Medellin. Sure, La Isla got some bad apples, but overall quality is far superior. And since the rates are fixed, even though pricey, you can choose any girls you want for the same price. SF and El Centro are great only for someone on a limited budget, with low standards (can fuck pretty much anyone). My first 9/10 I did fuck at La Isla, when I first got to Medellin about 8 yrs ago. The girl was a fitness model with 6-pack abs. Cost me around $100 back then. You can't find a fitness model in a dump place like SF or El Centro.Read my last post on Bogota forum 2 days ago. Yes you can find a fitness model. I'm talking about the clubs not the street. Fiebre and Troya are equal interns of girl quality to la isla. La isla is just over priced because of how they package the experience.
Read my last post on Bogota forum 2 days ago. Yes you can find a fitness model. I'm talking about the clubs not the street. Fiebre and Troya are equal interns of girl quality to la isla. La isla is just over priced because of how they package the experience.Well, then you are comparing low end clubs to high end La Isla. It's like comparing New Life to Loutron. An average La Isla girl easily beats an average Fiebre / Troya girl, there is no doubt about it. You got to be blind not to see the difference. But hey, more power to you, I guess it makes your life easier not to notice the difference.
And speaking of fitness models, it has become much harder to find one at La Isla, let alone at SF clubs. The quality is down everywhere.
Well, then you are comparing low end clubs to high end La Isla. It's like comparing New Life to Loutron. An average La Isla girl easily beats an average Fiebre / Troya girl, there is no doubt about it. You got to be blind not to see the difference. But hey, more power to you, I guess it makes your life easier not to notice the difference.
And speaking of fitness models, it has become much harder to find one at La Isla, let alone at SF clubs. The quality is down everywhere.
I found a fitness model at fiebre 2 days ago. I see her going to the gym everyday.
I guess our tastes are different or our experiences have been different. But I find that la isla and sf clubs are truly the same in terms of quality. La isla might have more girls but most of them are average. In terms of top tier talent both sf clubs have and many isla have the same amount imo. Just a handful of girls are top tier.
Personally out of all the times I went to la isla around half the time maybe less I have been disappointed. And just leave without anyone. Whenever girls go to dance I'm never like wow I want to take her to the room upstairs. But when I go to fiebre I have been consistently impressed by the dancers and have always taken a girl upstairs. And it's cheaper which is surprising to me.
That's why in my book they are the same. Lido in Bogota I think is equal to Loutron in Medellin in terms of quality. But lido is crazy expensive like 200 usd for an hour with the girl but all the girls are hot except for 1 or 2. Loutron I heard has gone slightly down but I'll have to see for myself.
I don't consider myself cheap like paying centro prices but I do consider myself reasonable.
The lesson here is paying more doesn't necessarily always give a better experience. Eg prime example being gustos and second being la isla raising their prices to 550 k + 50 k cover and the experience being essentially the same.
I prefer Medelln over bogota however because online girls are really good for 200k and pausas provide better service and over are just better. Even though I sometimes get bad service and bad attitude in bogota I can count that I can always find someone good enough in sf
I know exactly who you are talking about there's this one gringo with Grey hair and a Grey beard that sits on the bench in front of the glass walkway talking loud in English all obnoxious and shit.....He is talking about a group of gringos that are sitting on the bench to the right of the church when you are facing the church. It looks like they just use it as a social gathering place.
It's reasonable to assume that as tourist numbers have increased in recent years, so will crimes against tourists, so the raw number goes up but the crimes per capita (percentage) is more likely to have gone down.
This article says there were 25 foreigners killed in Medellin in 2022.
https://crisis24.garda.com/alerts/2023/03/colombia-police-investigation-into-death-of-foreign-national-in-medellin-ongoing-as-of-march-3#text=However%2 see%20 authorities%20 have%20 reported%20 a,killed%20 in%20 Medellin%20 in%202022.
However the number of international visitors to Medellin in 2022 was over 1. 4 million.
https://www.medellincolombia.co/general-information/medellin-factfile/#text=Medellin%20 Tourism%20 Figures&text=Medellin%20 saw%201%2 C400%2 C000%20 international%20 visitors%20 in%202022..Stories about guys being drugged and robbed isn't common in Thailand, the Philippines, Barcelona or New Orleans but it is common in Medellin. To me, that is one significant difference about Medellin. Drug cartels running around is also found in Mexico and Colombia but not most of the other countries. They don't target gringo but sometimes gringos getting killed is an accidental consequence of drug wars. I do know a few guys who say they would never go to Colombia because the danger is not worth it. Now, that doesn't stop me for the reasons you mentioned. Take precautions and be aware of your circumstances. If something seems off, move on or ask the girl to leave.
He is talking about a group of gringos that are sitting on the bench to the right of the church when you are facing the church. It looks like they just use it as a social gathering place.I would say let the old guys have their fun. They are probably living on a tight budget and they enjoy the El Centro scene. Just ignore them and move on.
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That's a rate of 1. 7 homicides per 100,000 which makes it safer than most US cities. The avg for Colombia is 27.1, the US is 6. 8, I'm taking the risk as the UK is 1. 2.
As for crime in general, getting mugged, drugged, whatever. It's the same rule as travelling anywhere, just don't be stupid. Don't walk around strange neighbourhoods at night, don't walk around with your expensive phone out, don't start shit with the locals, don't get so drunk you can't find your way home, don't accept candy from strangers, that kind of thing. Same rules as Thailand, the Philippines, Barcelona or New Orleans. If you're not a complete idiot Medellin is perfectly safe....Those numbers are not useful in this context as others have said it. You seem to be implying Medellin is as safe as Thailand. The robberies are not limited to night time. Most robberies reported here or elsewhere are not in strange neighborhoods.
The first time I went to la isla, way back in the day, it was amazing. Half the girls there were hot. The other two strip clubs were great too. 25% of the girls there were hot. The last time I went post pandemic it was awful. I saw one girl that was hot at la isla but her personality sucked so I didn't take her. The other clubs were awful and empty. I don't know if the pandemic is the reason why it sucks in 2023. Someone here that's been living there the last few years would be more qualified to answer that. Gustos and the park were horrible. It's like a magic ugly stick came and touched the city, and now all all the girls are old, hardened look, and a ton of makeup. Enjoy but I'll fly the extra 5 hours and go to Rio.
Blue Touch
09-16-23, 16:55
I would say let the old guys have their fun. They are probably living on a tight budget and they enjoy the El Centro scene. Just ignore them and move on.The gringos in front of the Veracruz mall are making tons of troubles with locals and police. They were kicked out of some hotels and prohibited from entering some restaurants and shops.
It is known to create problems, but usually after a few attempts it works. NOT THIS TIME.
I tried 15 times yesterday, and 10 today, 4 different browser and 2 PCs. I arrive at the end, where it asks for the address (Datos de hospedaje), and then I get a blank page with "502 Bad Gateway" message.
My flight is this night. What would you do?
It is known to create problems, but usually after a few attempts it works. NOT THIS TIME.
I tried 15 times yesterday, and 10 today, 4 different browser and 2 PCs. I arrive at the end, where it asks for the address (Datos de hospedaje), and then I get a blank page with "502 Bad Gateway" message.
My flight is this night. What would you do?The same thing happened to me. I got it to work by using the Spanish version, and not using "Frequent traveler". Also, when selecting the departing city, I selected Florida as the city because in the previous version, that was the option I used. By making those three changes, it worked the first time. So I don't know which is causing the bad gateway.
StudPlayer
09-16-23, 17:35
The first time I went to la isla, way back in the day, it was amazing. Half the girls there were hot. The other two strip clubs were great too. 25% of the girls there were hot. The last time I went post pandemic it was awful. I saw one girl that was hot at la isla but her personality sucked so I didn't take her. The other clubs were awful and empty. I don't know if the pandemic is the reason why it sucks in 2023. Someone here that's been living there the last few years would be more qualified to answer that. Gustos and the park were horrible. It's like a magic ugly stick came and touched the city, and now all all the girls are old, hardened look, and a ton of makeup. Enjoy but I'll fly the extra 5 hours and go to Rio.You will be able to find all the hotties from medellin in private harems adorned with gold in the arab world and in clubs in Japan, south Korea, spain to some extent and other places no doubt I am not aware of.
There has been a huge shift in the world, it is not reserved for any one venue or country.
Big big money has scoured the world and sequestered the finest girls from around the globe in private situations.
Read what has happened in the FKKs in Germany, the whole city of Medellin, Angeles City in the Philipines, Bangkok and Pattaya in Thailand.
And other similar venues around the world.
The quality and quantity of the chicas has crashed everywhere.
It is no coincidence. Big money has scoured the world and sequestered the best of the best.
It is over boys. It is a whole new ball game now.
I would say let the old guys have their fun. They are probably living on a tight budget and they enjoy the El Centro scene. Just ignore them and move on.When I'm in Centro I stay clear of other gringos.
Unfortunately because of the onslaught of the new mongers here who used to frequent SEA, and from many others places since the Pandemic, these new mongers since Colombia opened up eight months after the Pandemic have changed many things for foreign mongers in Centro now.
Sometimes I see these mongers as though I was somewhere in SEA who typically have a beer in one hand, and a Cigarette in the other.
Some of them, but not all of them I find disgusting, not only by their personal habits and appearance, but with there dealings with the SW's, and the locals who frequent Centro daily, hence leaving what I call a tarnished image for all of the foreign mongers here of which many are good guys.
As a result of this, the mongering environment is very different than before the Pandemic.
And it's not just the older mongers but also the younger mongers who have contributed to tarnishing all the foreign mongers, as though we have a stigma.
The same thing happened to me. I got it to work by using the Spanish version, and not using "Frequent traveler". Also, when selecting the departing city, I selected Florida as the city because in the previous version, that was the option I used. By making those three changes, it worked the first time. So I don't know which is causing the bad gateway.I did other 6 attempts, tried English and Spanish, different cities (Denver and Miami).
Result: I don't even arrive at the last page, it fails on step 3 with a "504 Gateway Time-out".
I do not think that there is an offending content in my form, but their server that doesn't work, and maybe they will fix it too late for me.
I have taken and printed all the screenshots, so I can prove my due diligence, but their process doesn't work.
BTW, first time in 6 trips.
Mr Enternational
09-16-23, 18:55
It is known to create problems, but usually after a few attempts it works. NOT THIS TIME.
I tried 15 times yesterday, and 10 today, 4 different browser and 2 PCs. I arrive at the end, where it asks for the address (Datos de hospedaje), and then I get a blank page with "502 Bad Gateway" message.
My flight is this night. What would you do?Nothing. I already reported that I did not fill it out entering or leaving last time.
MaddTraveler
09-16-23, 21:59
-- Landed in Mde 9/12 and totally forgot about check-mig, but they didn't ask for it so fellas it looks like it's no longer needed nor the Vax card. Or it could be if your a frequent traveler they already have you in the sys and migracion dude just askd me if it's a tourism trip and I said yes. Done in 2 minutes.
-- Airport taxi is a bit higher. Normal rate used to be 80 k-100 k to Laureles or El Plobado but now min is 120 k. Some wanted 150 k.
-- Last trip was in Feb and I didn't notice inflation isssue, but this trip I def do. Food, Taxi (starts now at 4300 on meter instead of 3300), chicas also slightly more expensive.
-- Leasing a nice apt in a quiet area of Laureless, can tell prices are going up.
-- Slept and organized first afternoon and ate at a nice restaurant near my apt (Morenita), really good food, paid 60 k totall incl drink and a beer. Slept for 12 hrs. (bro was tired).
-- I'm here for several Months, so no rush. Woke up and took a cab to centro 9/13, lots and lots of hunnies, few 7-8's, I shit you not. I was so confused on whom to chose so I didn't. Walked into Cojenitas, 2 beers, called the finest flaca after her stage dance (solid 8) to come sit (approx 4 pm), chatted, girl drink, then 120 k in room and got that first nut out. Total incl beer was less than 150 k, no propina.
-- I promised myself I wouldn't hunt any non-pros since tht takes a lot of work. But then I realize focusing on pros only is not a better option w all the druggin going on, and much less risk w a true non-pro. Also since I'm here a while I DO want a novia. Fuck that. Refuse to have to pay each time LOL. My main strat will be approaching chicas in person when walking around. Got few digits so far and chatting. I make sure to ask that they are not prepagos and that I am not seeking that. I want either an amiga, or algo serio (something serious). The one I'm chatting with are ok w / that. Tinder and dating apps nowadays is 99% hardcore pros and problem chicas, I scan through them just for fun but they never fail, that as soon as you match they either tell you or want to meet you ASAP, ignore personal questions and simply want to meet or asking you whether you're in an apt or hotel. They're basically measuring you as their next potential victim for money or drugging your ass. So don't do it bc Mde is super dangerous now w those types.
-- Met a cool dude from the Airport who lives here and confirm the issues, we had lunch next day w his spouse incl few of his mates. I always admire and happy to learn from the older gents and vets!!
-- Day 3 got some work stuff set up, then realized eros spa is super close less than a 10 min walk, decent line up of 12-15 chicas, lots of 4-5's but couple doable 6's and 7's. Went there damage 80 k (was 70 k few months back). Chica said no specific time. Was super tight, was screaming while I tore it up. We layed down and chatted. Wanted an extra 40 k for BBBJ, but was terrible at it, I called her out and said yo you don't know how to do this, she said she does. So I stood up instead of laying down and she improved a bit LOL. Overall ok. Total damage 120 k (she didn't earn extra propina but did her job).
-- didn't do shit yesterday, and I have a cita this evening w a non-pro morena w some huge tits, going out for drinks. Hopefully I get to smash!!
I did other 6 attempts, tried English and Spanish, different cities (Denver and Miami).
Result: I don't even arrive at the last page, it fails on step 3 with a "504 Gateway Time-out".
I do not think that there is an offending content in my form, but their server that doesn't work, and maybe they will fix it too late for me.
I have taken and printed all the screenshots, so I can prove my due diligence, but their process doesn't work.
BTW, first time in 6 trips.It's been a while since I've done devops type work but it could be geo tied load balancer leads to a bad server / site. Maybe try bouncing off a VPN in Colombia? Failing that maybe try rebooting and using an incognito tab.
Voodoo Jones
09-16-23, 22:39
I was getting the same error on my last trip, but I was using the Frequent Traveler option like Fun Luvr mentioned. I didn't use that option and then tried another computer with another browser. That worked, but I don't think I had to use a different computer or browser.
I'm back in Bogota and had no issues using my iPhone the other day. Didn't use Frequent Traveler either.
Silver Turtle
09-16-23, 23:29
I did other 6 attempts, tried English and Spanish, different cities (Denver and Miami).
Result: I don't even arrive at the last page, it fails on step 3 with a "504 Gateway Time-out".
I do not think that there is an offending content in my form, but their server that doesn't work, and maybe they will fix it too late for me.
I have taken and printed all the screenshots, so I can prove my due diligence, but their process doesn't work.
BTW, first time in 6 trips.Try different browsers, ie Chrome, Firefox, Edge, etc. Make sure you'll look at the right end of the web pages.
The first time I went to la isla, way back in the day, it was amazing. Half the girls there were hot. The other two strip clubs were great too. 25% of the girls there were hot. The last time I went post pandemic it was awful. I saw one girl that was hot at la isla but her personality sucked so I didn't take her. The other clubs were awful and empty. I don't know if the pandemic is the reason why it sucks in 2023. Someone here that's been living there the last few years would be more qualified to answer that. Gustos and the park were horrible. It's like a magic ugly stick came and touched the city, and now all all the girls are old, hardened look, and a ton of makeup. Enjoy but I'll fly the extra 5 hours and go to Rio.So Rio is really that much better than Medellin??
Would you day it's better than Guayaquil Ecuador??
Is there a street scene in Rio like botero or lleras?
CowboyCheeba
09-17-23, 08:19
Because I had to weed through pages of complaining, whining, fear mongering (heh), or the ol' "Back in my day" BS. I'll give you some reports.
Used mileroticos, photoprepagos and have had success.
First was a girl showing her face, said she was in her teens, but was in her late 20's, however looked exactly like the photos.
She was a girl next door type with a gorgeous face that was a turn on by itself, no makeup, all natural and it was GFE.
I paid 300+50 for transport. Two leches. Bbj - and she delivered.
A little shy, but sensual. Super tight as well and a pretty kitty. We kissed a bunch and she was very sweet, clean, no drama, and eager to please. What a start to the trip. Overall 9/10.
Next was more of a porn star chica, face was blurred but her body was petite, natural and super fit. Again pictures were "verified" and it definitely was her.
The girls use the earliest photos of them it seems, and ride those pics until it's not viable anymore. She had tats, and she had two listings, one with tats and one without. Same number same chica.
Shows up later than we planned but she was super sweet.
Showed up and I asked her to dance for me, she puts on her playlist and starts to dance and teasing me.
Fake ass lips but everything else real. The DSL were fun, but kind of comical, but didn't stop her from pleasing me. She took more control, and rode me like a bronco, but did plenty of BJ teasing with a lot of eagerness. We spoke about Colombia and she gave me lots of tips in between leches. Her kitty was pretty damn perfect as well and quite tight again.
From her profile her vibe was quite obvious, so far my instincts have steered me in the right direction. Not into the non-responsive chicas bc they will probably be aloof when you meet them.
After the second leche we had some time and she told me about all the things I need to see and do while here. She is passionate about her country, and is a paisa. The genuine personalities in Colombia are truly special. Overall 8/10.
It helps a ton to speak Spanish, and luckily I do with near fluency. But a lot of words don't transfer because of regional dialects and certain words having totally different meanings, which is fun to figure out but if you're a gringo using translation apps only, hopefully you learn a thing or two along the way.
Honestly the gringos I see here are cringe AF. The way they act, the way they have no interest in the people or culture. I get the fact that people want to experience their fantasies here, but its no wonder there is resentment when gringo groups are in nice restaurants openly talking about their escapades loudly, and celebrating like they have never had sex before. It's pathetic really. And then some bring "dates" with them and are just in their translation apps the whole time or they ignore the chicas, who looked bored out of their minds and are just waiting to get paid and leave. No real connection being made. But I did see some supermodel hot girls with these gringos so they were doing something right.
My hotel charges way too much to allow a chica in, but I don't think I would have loved staying in some of the budget options that people tout on this board because walking / driving past them, they don't seem that clean, and are full of gringos.
Will try out the clubs so I can feel out personality, and not stick to whatsapp and online profiles. So far the list include FaseDos, La Isla, Fiebre, Lutron, etc.
I may see my first chica again bc she was such a surprise by how down to earth and natural she was.
Good luck guys, hope this is somewhat helpful to some.
You will be able to find all the hotties from medellin in private harems adorned with gold in the arab world and in clubs in Japan, south Korea, spain to some extent and other places no doubt I am not aware of.
There has been a huge shift in the world, it is not reserved for any one venue or country.
Big big money has scoured the world and sequestered the finest girls from around the globe in private situations.
Read what has happened in the FKKs in Germany, the whole city of Medellin, Angeles City in the Philipines, Bangkok and Pattaya in Thailand.
And other similar venues around the world.
The quality and quantity of the chicas has crashed everywhere.
It is no coincidence. Big money has scoured the world and sequestered the best of the best.
It is over boys. It is a whole new ball game now.That damn "big money!" Always hatching some nefarious plot to destroy everything, just like some James Bond Villain.
Fortunately, just like every super villain in every movie, they really suck at it. Plus, it's pretty difficult to round up and sequester about 800 million women.
If you're in Colombia, or undoubtedly in any of the cities listed, just go to a mall, walk down the street, or stop by a church. You'll see plenty of beautiful women. If you're able to greet them and speak 4 or 5 sentences in their language (with 1 sentence being a description of your knowledge of their language), you have a chance for a conversation. If you have a conversation, you have a chance for a date. If you have a date, you have a chance.
Hookers are still out there in the same numbers, however, the game has changed. If you have a cellphone, tablet or computer, you have everything you need to change right along with it.
So Rio is really that much better than Medellin??
Would you day it's better than Guayaquil Ecuador??
Is there a street scene in Rio like botero or lleras?The street scene in Rio is a non starter. Mostly ladyboys and really washed up hookers. Any girl that is at least decent looking will work at the termas or small clubs. If they work the street they are bottom of the barrel or chicks with dicks.
They are not hard to avoid. They are only a nuisance most of the time. As mentioned, they regularly have bad interactions with locals and with each other. There is a younger contingent that hangs out in the bars behind the church doing tusi and coke.
I would say let the old guys have their fun. They are probably living on a tight budget and they enjoy the El Centro scene. Just ignore them and move on.
The most likely cause is a temporary web server outage. Checkmig sits behind the Colombia immigration website's WAF. Try again later.
It's been a while since I've done devops type work but it could be geo tied load balancer leads to a bad server / site. Maybe try bouncing off a VPN in Colombia? Failing that maybe try rebooting and using an incognito tab.
I was getting the same error on my last trip, but I was using the Frequent Traveler option like Fun Luvr mentioned. I didn't use that option and then tried another computer with another browser. That worked, but I don't think I had to use a different computer or browser.
I'm back in Bogota and had no issues using my iPhone the other day. Didn't use Frequent Traveler either.Apparently they have not worked out all the bugs since they transitioned and changed the Platform several months back as for whatever reason my frequent traveler info wasn't transferred over and I had issues last month with Check Mig but got around it.
-- Landed in Mde 9/12 and totally forgot about check-mig, but they didn't ask for itI also forgot. Immigration didn't ask for it.
Airport taxi is a bit higher. Normal rate used to be 80 k-100 k to Laureles or El Plobado but now min is 120 k. Some wanted 150 k.I confirmed with the tout in uniform and the taxi driver, that the fare is 98 K (to Poblado), including the tollway. 98 K is max; assuming that is the official fare. But note that I landed at 3 PM; some poster mentioned that the group can gouge when it is off hours. He was very happy when I gave him 102 K; he helped with the luggage.
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09-17-23, 19:46
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Silver Turtle
09-17-23, 19:54
They are not hard to avoid. They are only a nuisance most of the time. As mentioned, they regularly have bad interactions with locals and with each other. There is a younger contingent that hangs out in the bars behind the church doing tusi and coke.Some of these gringos were arrested and put into jails for a few days. Now the locals think that all gringos are assxxxxs.
You will be able to find all the hotties from medellin in private harems adorned with gold in the arab world and in clubs in Japan, south Korea, spain to some extent and other places no doubt I am not aware of.
There has been a huge shift in the world, it is not reserved for any one venue or country.
Big big money has scoured the world and sequestered the finest girls from around the globe in private situations.
Read what has happened in the FKKs in Germany, the whole city of Medellin, Angeles City in the Philipines, Bangkok and Pattaya in Thailand.
And other similar venues around the world.
The quality and quantity of the chicas has crashed everywhere.
It is no coincidence. Big money has scoured the world and sequestered the best of the best.
It is over boys. It is a whole new ball game now.I thought you guys were exaggerating saying things like this, but I just landed in Medellin and these chicks are busted! Mostly fatties and out of shape chicks everywhere. Girls like this wanting 100 usd and free drinks all night.
I also forgot. Immigration didn't ask for it.
I confirmed with the tout in uniform and the taxi driver, that the fare is 98 K (to Poblado), including the tollway. 98 K is max; assuming that is the official fare. But note that I landed at 3 PM; some poster mentioned that the group can gouge when it is off hours. He was very happy when I gave him 102 K; he helped with the luggage.The MIG form you filled out is on the computer. They don't need to ask for it because they see the information on their computer screens.
The fare to Poblado from the airport is set out on the big sign on the wall where you get the white taxi. It says "98 pesos". Always good to confirm with the driver but so far they all have complied with the posted fare.
Excellent report, and yes, thank you for actual information!
Because I had to weed through pages of complaining, whining, fear mongering (heh), or the ol' "Back in my day" BS. I'll give you some reports.
Used mileroticos, photoprepagos and have had success.
First was a girl showing her face, said she was in her teens, but was in her late 20's, however looked exactly like the photos.
She was a girl next door type with a gorgeous face that was a turn on by itself, no makeup, all natural and it was GFE.
I paid 300+50 for transport. Two leches. Bbj - and she delivered.
A little shy, but sensual. Super tight as well and a pretty kitty. We kissed a bunch and she was very sweet, clean, no drama, and eager to please. What a start to the trip. Overall 9/10.
Next was more of a porn star chica, face was blurred but her body was petite, natural and super fit. Again pictures were "verified" and it definitely was her.
The girls use the earliest photos of them it seems, and ride those pics until it's not viable anymore. She had tats, and she had two listings, one with tats and one without. Same number same chica.
Shows up later than we planned but she was super sweet...
This trip was so odd. I had been in Bogota the first weekend of August and it followed the standard Santa Fe routine. Street girls, club girls, street girls and done. All good.
Medellin, for whatever reason, became the "novia GFE" trip.
Night 1 - Saturday the 19th. Walking from Lleras toward Calle 10, met a long black haired beautiful semi-indigenous looking girl. High cheekbones, full lips, slim, but with nalguitas that you can get a nice handful of. Went for a drink, had some snacks at the Mexican bar / salsa place just south of Lleras, went across to the super loud club but sat outside and had some drinks. Went to my hotel, no charge to take her up, and we had a nice 1 hour plus time together. Back to the bars, more drinks, back to the hotel more fucking. Then repeated again.
Day 2 / Night 2 Sunday the 20th to Monday the 21st. Spent the whole day Sunday in bed, watching tv and more sex. Same night time routine. Finally, she left Monday morning. All in, she asked for zero money, which was odd, but I gave her $170 k, plus bought food and drinks. Saw her later that day and she had gotten a big hole in her fake Chanel sneakers where the sole separated from the leather. I gave her another $100 k for some new shoes.
All in, $270 k for probably 12 sessions, multiple pops over 3 nights and 2 full days. Craziness. Never had that happen before.
Day 3 - rest and recovery day. But popped by the spa on lower Calle 10 heading toward Carrera 43, got a massage and an exceedingly nice happy ending.
Day 4-5 - hooked up with a girl from Tinder. She works at a big department store in one of the larger centro commerciales, so I met her at work, went to dinner, back to my hotel for 2 hours. Zero cash, paid for taxis and dinner. Next day, met her again for dinner, stayed overnight at my hotel and we had about 6 different sessions over the entire evening, night, next morning. She had to work and was about to leave. Didn't ask for any money whatsoever, but before she did I gave her $400 k to put toward her scooter purchase. She was exceedingly grateful.
In 5 days, only 2 girls, complete GFE from both with probably 20+ separate sex sessions (not all producing a nut as I'd be blowing sand at that point), and all for only $670 k. Craziness.
Finally Day 7 - went to Botero, went with 3 different Venezolanas. One cute, but perfunctory; her cousin (sent to me in the room by the first girl, so I didn't see beforehand) was about as plain looking as they come, but MAN, the BEST deepthroat BBBJ I've had in a long, long, time. Well worth the $50 k, plus I gave her another $20 k as a tip. Incredible. Last girl had a bad attitude, wouldn't BBBJ even though she said she would, etc.
Night of Day 7 - spent in the little bar next to the chicken place on Calle 10, took 2 separate girls down to the hostel a few blocks down Calle 10.1st one. Slim, almost zero titties, but did an good job on BBBJ and rode me cowgirl very nicely. Next girl was a young light skinned Venezolana who gave me the complete GFE, including a cumshot all over her back and body, for only $170 k (after initially asking for $400 k).
Bottom line, there's a lot of options out there, I try to speak to the girls to get a feel for their personality, whether or not we have any chemistry in our flirtations, and just go with the ones that seem like they'd be fun. It's not all good, the 3rd girl in Botero was one of my worst experiences, but more than made up for by the last, 19-20 year old Vennie on Calle 10 who have me the complete GFE, but with a PSE ending!
Enjoy!
MongerHunger
09-18-23, 16:32
I thought you guys were exaggerating saying things like this, but I just landed in Medellin and these chicks are busted! Mostly fatties and out of shape chicks everywhere. Girls like this wanting 100 usd and free drinks all night.Avoid any chicas that quotes prices in dollars.
I thought you guys were exaggerating saying things like this, but I just landed in Medellin and these chicks are busted! Mostly fatties and out of shape chicks everywhere. Girls like this wanting 100 usd and free drinks all night.In a metro area of over 4 million people, you find 3 ugly girls and declare the whole city is worthless?
Aren't you the guy who's been asking about flying girls in for the past month? Although that's almost always a terrible idea, in your case, it might be your only hope.
So are you planning to leave now and save your remaining hotel cost or stay and endure the hags?
I thought you guys were exaggerating saying things like this, but I just landed in Medellin and these chicks are busted! Mostly fatties and out of shape chicks everywhere. Girls like this wanting 100 usd and free drinks all night.
I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to suggest the locals think all gringos are asses. As I stated, the gringos that can't seem to stay out of trouble with the police and locals are not hard to avoid. In fact, no gringos are very hard to avoid because there are not that many compared to the overall crowds in Centro. I will say that I notice the more problematic among us actively seeking out engagement with other gringos. I suspect it's a reaction to having been shunned here and at home. I won't pretend to have any insights about what it says about cultural norms. For me personally the bench mob of gringos that have been around for years are like loose tiles and holes in pedestrian paths around Centro. I don't take note of them except to avoid them.
Some of these gringos were arrested and put into jails for a few days. Now the locals think that all gringos are assxxxxs.
Silver Turtle
09-18-23, 21:36
I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to suggest the locals think all gringos are asses. As I stated, the gringos that can't seem to stay out of trouble with the police and locals are not hard to avoid. In fact, no gringos are very hard to avoid because there are not that many compared to the overall crowds in Centro. I will say that I notice the more problematic among us actively seeking out engagement with other gringos. I suspect it's a reaction to having been shunned here and at home. I won't pretend to have any insights about what it says about cultural norms. For me personally the bench mob of gringos that have been around for years are like loose tiles and holes in pedestrian paths around Centro. I don't take note of them except to avoid them.Previously you stated that you are one of these guys on the bench.
Medclubber
09-19-23, 01:24
That damn "big money!" Always hatching some nefarious plot to destroy everything, just like some James Bond Villain.
Fortunately, just like every super villain in every movie, they really suck at it. Plus, it's pretty difficult to round up and sequester about 800 million women.
If you're in Colombia, or undoubtedly in any of the cities listed, just go to a mall, walk down the street, or stop by a church. You'll see plenty of beautiful women. If you're able to greet them and speak 4 or 5 sentences in their language (with 1 sentence being a description of your knowledge of their language), you have a chance for a conversation. If you have a conversation, you have a chance for a date. If you have a date, you have a chance.
Hookers are still out there in the same numbers, however, the game has changed. If you have a cellphone, tablet or computer, you have everything you need to change right along with it.Nah you can't deny that quality has taken quite a hit over the last few years. I don't believe that it's because of rich oil sheiks buying up all girls LOL, although there's some truth there of course, mobility has gone up so girls can easily travel to Dubai and make 10 x more than what they make in Medellin.
But the MAIN reason is much simpler: Onlyfans. This platform is at least partly the problem. Normally one of the biggest factors determining your salary is the country you're in. A top doctor in Medellin doesn't even come close to what a top doctor in Dubai makes, just because they're working in different countries. However Onlyfans totally changed this, all of a sudden it doesn't matter anymore if you're from Dubai or Medellin, the hotter you are the more you make. So this makes it extremely interesting for hot girls from poorer countries. A hot girl can't make 100 k usd / month working at Parque Lleras. But they can with Onlyfans. Not saying this explains all of it, there are of course tons of girls not willing to make internet porn for obvious reasons. But it surely is a very important factor for the quality decrease over the last few years. Girls don't even need to have sex with total strangers anymore, they can make much more putting some rubber dildo in their asses in front of a webcam. Of course this is very tempting to quite a few and hence the increased popularity of this platform correlates with the decrease on the streets in Medellin, of that I'm sure.
Onlyfans, seriously? Even if it were something new and unique (and it definitely is not) I don't see that it could take girls off the market to the point we would notice. It makes sense to me that chaturbate, onlyfans and the like could cause some girls to ask for more money. Girls I've known who don't cam work haven't stayed with it more than a few months at a time. I don't know enough about it to understand why. What has taken my favorites off the market on a consistent basis for years is pregnancies and marriages.
Nah you can't deny that quality has taken quite a hit over the last few years. I don't believe that it's because of rich oil sheiks buying up all girls LOL, although there's some truth there of course, mobility has gone up so girls can easily travel to Dubai and make 10 x more than what they make in Medellin.
But the MAIN reason is much simpler: Onlyfans. This platform is at least partly the problem. Normally one of the biggest factors determining your salary is the country you're in. A top doctor in Medellin doesn't even come close to what a top doctor in Dubai makes, just because they're working in different countries. However Onlyfans totally changed this, all of a sudden it doesn't matter anymore if you're from Dubai or Medellin, the hotter you are the more you make. So this makes it extremely interesting for hot girls from poorer countries. A hot girl can't make 100 k usd / month working at Parque Lleras. But they can with Onlyfans. Not saying this explains all of it, there are of course tons of girls not willing to make internet porn for obvious reasons. But it surely is a very important factor for the quality decrease over the last few years. Girls don't even need to have sex with total strangers anymore, they can make much more putting some rubber dildo in their asses in front of a webcam. Of course this is very tempting to quite a few and hence the increased popularity of this platform correlates with the decrease on the streets in Medellin, of that I'm sure.
I'll go with that. I also admit to heavy use of tusi and bazuko and regular stints in the city jail.
Previously you stated that you are one of these guys on the bench.
Nah you can't deny that quality has taken quite a hit over the last few years. I don't believe that it's because of rich oil sheiks buying up all girls LOL, although there's some truth there of course, mobility has gone up so girls can easily travel to Dubai and make 10 x more than what they make in Medellin.
But the MAIN reason is much simpler: Onlyfans. This platform is at least partly the problem. Normally one of the biggest factors determining your salary is the country you're in. A top doctor in Medellin doesn't even come close to what a top doctor in Dubai makes, just because they're working in different countries. However Onlyfans totally changed this, all of a sudden it doesn't matter anymore if you're from Dubai or Medellin, the hotter you are the more you make. So this makes it extremely interesting for hot girls from poorer countries. A hot girl can't make 100 k usd / month working at Parque Lleras. But they can with Onlyfans. Not saying this explains all of it, there are of course tons of girls not willing to make internet porn for obvious reasons. But it surely is a very important factor for the quality decrease over the last few years. Girls don't even need to have sex with total strangers anymore, they can make much more putting some rubber dildo in their asses in front of a webcam. Of course this is very tempting to quite a few and hence the increased popularity of this platform correlates with the decrease on the streets in Medellin, of that I'm sure.Onlyfans should be banned.
LoveItHere
09-19-23, 06:26
There have been rude loud-mouth gringos hanging around a bench at the Veracruz since the beginning of Covid pandemic, and they are inviting problems to other foreigners. These overweight, unattractive guys act obnoxious, drink with working girls and fight with local punks on the center of promenade. Locals hate them. Most of them had their belongings stolen and some of them were extorted to pay money for their security. I have been here 7+ weeks. I knew several of the bench losers from 2 years ago. Nearly got into a fight with two of them. I chat with them from time to time this visit but then ignore them and their stupidity. I know nothing of them fighting with the locals. They have had slight verbal fights with the local homeless people to get away and leave them alone. How exactly did they have their belongings stolen? I ask because most have little money and thus nothing to steal. They are not paying security money. Where are you pulling this out of?
The gringos in front of the Veracruz mall are making tons of troubles with locals and police. They were kicked out of some hotels and prohibited from entering some restaurants and shops.I was kicked out of Botero Real on the side of the church 2 years ago because they went 100% short time only rooms. Hotel Boulevar cut the overnight stays in half to have more short time rooms. So some of the bench losers were unable to stay there when they returned on their next visit. Those moved to Hotel the'Grieff. Three of those guys cook using hotplates in their hotels so eat out very little. One drinks so much he rarely eats at all, and half of what he eats is street food. Prohibited from entering some shops. What kind of shops? Guys worldwide are not known for shopping. You can look at their clothes and see they do not clothes shop. They do not spend money so how can they get kicked out of shopping stores? You are telling me the police can not handle these stupid foreigners if they had a problem with them?
You are making stuff up. I agree they are losers and will list some examples why. Load music. Lots of drinking in public. Trying to hug and get attention from all the street girls they can to cock block and stroke their low self esteem. Some grab the girls boobs when they hug them. Some try to get the girls to show their tits. The loud stereo guy has been handing out suckers to kids passing by for months. I think he wants to get a grooming job at Disney. They have the girls sit on their laps. Some make dry humping motions.
All of this is done in public. I told several of them that they are idiots and how to behave but they do not listen at all. Simply put, if the locals are not doing it then you should not be doing it. The local guys that pick up the street girls are very quiet and discreet which is how all of us should be. I hate the bench crew and have said so to many of them. Many of us on this site hate them because they make us all look bad. So if we hate them, then many of the locals that see this every single day surely hate them too.
The MIG form you filled out is on the computer. They don't need to ask for it because they see the information on their computer screens.
The fare to Poblado from the airport is set out on the big sign on the wall where you get the white taxi. It says "98 pesos". Always good to confirm with the driver but so far they all have complied with the posted fare.If you travel light, there is always the option of catching the bus to MDE, it will leave you at the stop at the San Diego Mall, about 14 k pesos and then you can catch a taxi to your place from there.
In a metro area of over 4 million people, you find 3 ugly girls and declare the whole city is worthless?....Based on the past posts, I think these 3 are the attractive ones in his view, otherwise why ask price?
I think it's a bit of an exaggeration to suggest the locals think all gringos are asses..There is an incredible amount of ahlt talk going on here right now. Conspiracies that colombians hate gringos, no decent looking girls, crime spiralling out of control, onlyfans millionaire chicas left, right and centre, . Did I hit the Shlt Talk Mde link by mistake?
Medclubber
09-19-23, 17:31
Onlyfans, seriously? Even if it were something new and unique (and it definitely is not) I don't see that it could take girls off the market to the point we would notice. It makes sense to me that chaturbate, onlyfans and the like could cause some girls to ask for more money. Girls I've known who don't cam work haven't stayed with it more than a few months at a time. I don't know enough about it to understand why. What has taken my favorites off the market on a consistent basis for years is pregnancies and marriages.It's not new, but it's definitely increased in popularity over the last few years. I think it's mostly because of COVID, it's ever since that broke out that quality has gone down in Colombia. Cam/Onlyfans was already extra attractive to girls in poorer countries like Colombia, but the fact that there were no gringo's to f*ck for money, made at least some of them change to cam / onlyfans and it seems quite a few are happy with that change and stayed there. More money, less need to f*ck total strangers. Again, an ugly centro chick won't move to cam.onlyfans, they won't make much money there. But the really hot ones can make more money there than walking the streets. And it's really those really hot chicks that are now missing.
Of course it's not just only 1 explanation, but I'm sure this it's one of them. The decentralisation of digital porn has not been good for mongerers and with upcoming VR/AR technology it's only going to get worse.
I'll go with that. I also admit to heavy use of tusi and bazuko and regular stints in the city jail.And you failed to mention the quality and attributes of the SW's you go with including but not limited to very pregnant Chicas, grossly overweight Chicas, and the Sacaleros [my favorites} LOL.
I have been here 7+ weeks. I knew several of the bench losers from 2 years ago. Nearly got into a fight with two of them. I chat with them from time to time this visit but then ignore them and their stupidity.I realized a long time ago that interacting, and trying to give advice to other mongers in Centro that are not your personal friends is a total waste of time.
All mongers, myself included, are going to roll the way they want to with little to no regard to what other mongers think, unless they are personal friends and someone they respect.
JohnnieCash
09-19-23, 20:12
... Medellin, for whatever reason, became the "novia GFE" trip...Well, looks like somebody didn't get the memo that Medellin is finished LOL.
Nice one.
Also, for context -- what's your Spanish level and approx age bracket?
The bus is good even if you have a lot of luggage because there is so much space in the rear baggage storage. The taxi dispatcher girls at San Diego now wear uniforms to keep away mischief makers away. You can jump in a taxi from there.
If you travel light, there is always the option of catching the bus to MDE, it will leave you at the stop at the San Diego Mall, about 14 k pesos and then you can catch a taxi to your place from there.
If you travel light, there is always the option of catching the bus to MDE, it will leave you at the stop at the San Diego Mall, about 14 k pesos and then you can catch a taxi to your place from there.No need to travel light to use the bus. I bring two pieces of luggage and use the bus every time. They have a luggage area in the rear of the bus (outside access).
GeneHickman
09-19-23, 22:02
Re Only fans and other webcams. Yes it's an issue. I read a report that said recently there are 200 k webcam models in Colombia, that said only a small fraction of them make big money. Remember there is no limit on number of viewers a single chica can have, whereas they can only fuck one or two at a time. So the breakdown of $ is quite interesting and like everywhere else in competitive sports a lot of factors come into play and many of these cam girls return to the game. So not all accurate saying it's all shifted online. It's a factor that's all.
I would argue simping and idiots paying $ rates and some of them finding gustos and la Isla are bigger factors. I've lost 3 very good hoes that way. One of whom the simp actually bought her an apartment!!! Takes her to Europe and Asia on trips and it's a big gift every special event. I've seen her since 2019 and never given her more than 250mil but she seemed a little disappointed last time. Oh well on to the next.
Silver Turtle
09-19-23, 23:30
I realized a long time ago that interacting, and trying to give advice to other mongers in Centro that are not your personal friends is a total waste of time.
All mongers, myself included, are going to roll the way they want to with little to no regard to what other mongers think, unless they are personal friends and someone they respect.You brought them. Good job.
Silver Turtle
09-19-23, 23:32
I'll go with that. I also admit to heavy use of tusi and bazuko and regular stints in the city jail.Good luck with avoiding yourself on the bench.
Mojo Bandit
09-19-23, 23:38
Re Only fans and other webcams. Yes it's an issue. I read a report that said recently there are 200 k webcam models in Colombia, that said only a small fraction of them make big money. Remember there is no limit on number of viewers a single chica can have, whereas they can only fuck one or two at a time. So the breakdown of $ is quite interesting and like everywhere else in competitive sports a lot of factors come into play and many of these cam girls return to the game. So not all accurate saying it's all shifted online. It's a factor that's all.
I would argue simping and idiots paying $ rates and some of them finding gustos and la Isla are bigger factors. I've lost 3 very good hoes that way. One of whom the simp actually bought her an apartment!!! Takes her to Europe and Asia on trips and it's a big gift every special event. I've seen her since 2019 and never given her more than 250mil but she seemed a little disappointed last time. Oh well on to the next.I don't know much about the overall industry or how it works for all the kinds of webcam girls but I had a webcam girl I did citas with in Medellin tell me that up in Bello the gangs have large warehouses that are full of cubicles that are decorated to look like bedrooms for these girls. All diffrent themes and shit. They had her long hair braided and had her wearing an oldschool german style dress and called her Frulein something-or-other, she said there was about 50 girls working in the warehouse she was in. She basically got paid by the hour and was eager for citas. So you can bet the gangs keep most of the money.
It's not new, but it's definitely increased in popularity over the last few years. I think it's mostly because of COVID, it's ever since that broke out that quality has gone down in Colombia. Cam/Onlyfans was already extra attractive to girls in poorer countries like Colombia, but the fact that there were no gringo's to f*ck for money, made at least some of them change to cam / onlyfans and it seems quite a few are happy with that change and stayed there. More money, less need to f*ck total strangers. Again, an ugly centro chick won't move to cam.onlyfans, they won't make much money there. But the really hot ones can make more money there than walking the streets. And it's really those really hot chicks that are now missing.
Of course it's not just only 1 explanation, but I'm sure this it's one of them. The decentralisation of digital porn has not been good for mongerers and with upcoming VR/AR technology it's only going to get worse.The really hot ones were already making more money than walking the streets by working the Mansion, Facebook, Gusto, Tinder, Seeking, etc.
It's not one of the explanations. I've watched many Medellin working girls try webcam or Onlyfans. They almost never make any money. Onlyfans, if you're going to make money, you need to post pics and videos every day, plus work at least 4 or 5 hours every day on social media, making contacts and getting your name out there. If you keep that up for a month or two, you will probably get paid. You might even earn as much in those 2 months as you could have made from 1 Facebook date. 200-300 hours to earn the same as you could be making in 1 hour in bed?
Webcam is basically the same amount of work, before you start making money. To make webcam worse, a girl has to sit in front of a cam, smiling, keeping attentive and active for hours at a time when nobody is tipping, nobody is chatting.
Neither option is easy money.
I don't know much about the overall industry or how it works for all the kinds of webcam girls but I had a webcam girl I did citas with in Medellin tell me that up in Bello the gangs have large warehouses that are full of cubicles that are decorated to look like bedrooms for these girls. All diffrent themes and shit. They had her long hair braided and had her wearing an oldschool german style dress and called her Frulein something-or-other, she said there was about 50 girls working in the warehouse she was in. She basically got paid by the hour and was eager for citas. So you can bet the gangs keep most of the money.Even the legit studios usually keep 50%, at least until the model starts making good money. The ones working for the gangs don't last long. The real studios have a higher success rate, but they're a lot more selective about who they'll hire.
This is in line with what one of my girls told me about it. She moved back relatives in Cordoba but lived in Bello the past couple of years. On a related note, the Aventura casa also has ring lights in all their session rooms that the girls use for web cam sessions when the flow of local punters slows down. It's a vibe.
I don't know much about the overall industry or how it works for all the kinds of webcam girls but I had a webcam girl I did citas with in Medellin tell me that up in Bello the gangs have large warehouses that are full of cubicles that are decorated to look like bedrooms for these girls. All diffrent themes and shit. They had her long hair braided and had her wearing an oldschool german style dress and called her Frulein something-or-other, she said there was about 50 girls working in the warehouse she was in. She basically got paid by the hour and was eager for citas. So you can bet the gangs keep most of the money.
You sold me short by leaving out the little person and the one missing her nose who wears the same green sparkly dress almost every day.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2853918]And you failed to mention the quality and attributes of the SW's you go with including but not limited to very pregnant Chicas, grossly overweight Chicas, and the Sacaleros [myfavorites}LOL. [ / QUOTE].
Even the legit studios usually keep 50%, at least until the model starts making good money. The ones working for the gangs don't last long. The real studios have a higher success rate, but they're a lot more selective about who they'll hire.Let me butt in here since I mostly do webcam girls in Colombia.
The website takes usually takes 70%. Then from the 30% that's remaining the girls get 50%. For every dollar you give they get 15 cents. And they have to convert it to pesos so if the exchange rate goes down like it is now it affects how much they earn. And that affects how long girls decide to work if they work at all. There are dedicated studios. There are houses they turn into studios. They make studios out of hotels that aren't as busy when tourism is low.
Girl do this thing called being a satélite. Which is they can take the equipment from the studio and set it up in their house. This way the studio only takes 10% to 20%. And the studio gets the space back so that they can bring another newbie girl.
Another thing girls do is save up the money to buy their own equipment and then they get that 20% back.
The holy grail is when they become independent do multiple websites with varying percentages that they take at the same time, have an onlyfans for subscriptions / passive income and use instagram as a dating app to get flown out by sugar daddies.
I know one girl who is doing all of these things and is on seeking I haven't been with her because she is presumably expensive but she's really hot at least her body and she's from seeáli. Her name is dianac1998.
The really hot ones were already making more money than walking the streets by working the Mansion, Facebook, Gusto, Tinder, Seeking, etc.
It's not one of the explanations. I've watched many Medellin working girls try webcam or Onlyfans. They almost never make any money. Onlyfans, if you're going to make money, you need to post pics and videos every day, plus work at least 4 or 5 hours every day on social media, making contacts and getting your name out there. If you keep that up for a month or two, you will probably get paid. You might even earn as much in those 2 months as you could have made from 1 Facebook date. 200-300 hours to earn the same as you could be making in 1 hour in bed?
Webcam is basically the same amount of work, before you start making money. To make webcam worse, a girl has to sit in front of a cam, smiling, keeping attentive and active for hours at a time when nobody is tipping, nobody is chatting.
Neither option is easy money.I agree but I can't explain where the really hot girls have gone. I started the webcam thing March 2020 the quality was way better then and there were more girls. Now all of the girls I've ever met in person / was going to me have gone for greener pastures. I think some have integrated back into the workforce like university and regular jobs because things got a little better in Colombia.
My thesis is that some have moved outside the country think Spain Panama Mexico Dominican Republic and started charging more. Other have gone to only fans. Others just quit. Others got scoped by sugar daddies. Either way hoeflation is real.
This trip was so odd. I had been in Bogota the first weekend of August and it followed the standard Santa Fe routine. Street girls, club girls, street girls and done. All good.
Medellin, for whatever reason, became the "novia GFE" trip.
Night 1 - Saturday the 19th. Walking from Lleras toward Calle 10, met a long black haired beautiful semi-indigenous looking girl. High cheekbones, full lips, slim, but with nalguitas that you can get a nice handful of. Went for a drink, had some snacks at the Mexican bar / salsa place just south of Lleras, went across to the super loud club but sat outside and had some drinks. Went to my hotel, no charge to take her up, and we had a nice 1 hour plus time together. Back to the bars, more drinks, back to the hotel more fucking. Then repeated again.
Enjoy!Same. I'm going to Medellin for 3 months and I have 8 girls that want to meet me and be GFE with. I've met them all before so there's that. Most are cam girls. Also those blakck hair indigenous looking girls are my favoriteeeeeeeeeeeeee. If I see one that doesn't have any problems I'll marry her on the spot. I've met a girl like that from Cali in Santo Domingo the best sex of my life. Called her every day for a week. Do you guys know where they come from? Is Cartagena is it Cordova? Because if is I'm just going to go there and never come back.
Medclubber
09-20-23, 13:17
Let me butt in here since I mostly do webcam girls in Colombia.
I know one girl who is doing all of these things and is on seeking I haven't been with her because she is presumably expensive but she's really hot at least her body and she's from seeli. Her name is dianac1998.Woah, frikking hot indeed! Yeah that's exactly what I mean, this girl is now not on the streets but doing webcam indeed. And there are a lot more like her. Of course this is at least a partial explanation, that webcam business boomed ever since covid. And even if a girl doesn't do cam ONLY, still, any time she's doing cam she's not on the streets or with one of us :)
I also know some girls who moved out of the country but I find it hard to believe that it's just a sudden outflux to other countries that is THE driving factor behind the hoeflation
Blue Touch
09-20-23, 15:25
I realized a long time ago that interacting, and trying to give advice to other mongers in Centro that are not your personal friends is a total waste of time.
All mongers, myself included, are going to roll the way they want to with little to no regard to what other mongers think, unless they are personal friends and someone they respect.Very few of them speak Spanish. They distrust others, and among themselves, as they are shunned in Colombia and their home country. Probably none of them have college degree and some may have dropped out of high school.
You brought them. Good job.Yes, I'm going to go down in infamy here as the board member who single handily ruined mongering in Medellin with all my posts going back several years now.
There's been estimates by others that as a result of all my posts, thousands of new mongers have shown up that have changed the mongering landscape.
I guess I will always just be a pariah for many here as a result of all my posts, but do think many benefited from some of my posts, just like other board members who have been posting here for several years now like myself.
So if I have been able to help others with information here, is that so bad, as isn't that what this Site is for, to help others to monger here.
Very few of them speak Spanish. They distrust others, and among themselves, as they are shunned in Colombia and their home country. Probably none of them have college degree and some may have dropped out of high school.This post made me laugh. When did you conduct your survey and why didn't you include all those that are early retired?
Also those blakck hair indigenous looking girls are my favoriteeeeeeeeeeeeee. If I see one that doesn't have any problems I'll marry her on the spot..You mean the inca- looking girls? Can't say they are my taste but this shows beauty is inthe eye of the monger.
I realized a long time ago that interacting, and trying to give advice to other mongers in Centro that are not your personal friends is a total waste of time.
All mongers, myself included, are going to roll the way they want to with little to no regard to what other mongers think, unless they are personal friends and someone they respect.Surfer dropping gems in here. I abandoned trying to make friends while mongering a long time ago. Straight up watch people pay in dollars and talk about using money exchanges and look the other way now.
Now all of the girls I've ever met in person / was going to me have gone for greener pastures. I think some have integrated back into the workforce like university and regular jobs .
My thesis is that some have moved outside the country. Other have gone to only fans. Others just quit. Others got scoped by sugar daddies.l.Just the normal life cycle of a working girl. Been that way since putadom began.
My GF is webcam model and works with me occasionally for couple stuff. Now she personally wants a threesome but with two guys (off cam). I am in town the month of October staying next to Oviedo Mall. DM me for details. You must be height and weight proportionate, under 55 preferably, straight but not homophobic as you're going to be in a threesome so you might see another dick. She's clean, minimal tattoos, long black hair to her ass, submissive, anal and CIM. She wants to meet at a bar and go from there. Who's up for it?
ElSexoChino7
09-21-23, 08:19
My GF is webcam model and works with me occasionally for couple stuff. Now she personally wants a threesome but with two guys (off cam). I am in town the month of October staying next to Oviedo Mall. DM me for details. You must be height and weight proportionate, under 55 preferably, straight but not homophobic as you're going to be in a threesome so you might see another dick. She's clean, minimal tattoos, long black hair to her ass, submissive, anal and CIM. She wants to meet at a bar and go from there. Who's up for it?I'm up for it LOL. What exact dates will you be there? I'll be there the week of Halloween.
A buddy flew in yesterday and was eager to get laid so after getting settled in we headed out around 10 to la isla. As many have reported, I agree it was so much better before covid when you could find a few girls that were friendly with natural bodies, but now it is dominated by the silicone hardcore working girl chicks strictly looking to pull as many pesos they can from the dudes who think they are bigshots making it rain. We left after an hour and headed back down to fase2 where it was a better last night. My buddy spotted a cute spinner and immediately pulled her over to interview her. Very friendly and easy going, he was hooked. They had some drinks and headed to the room. He came back all smiles and we were done for the night, mission accomplished.
Silver Turtle
09-21-23, 14:51
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You mean the inca- looking girls? Can't say they are my taste but this shows beauty is inthe eye of the monger.I would be surprised if he meant them. I really like the taller indigenous looking beauties with black hair. There are not many of them hooking. I used to bang one in Abydos back in the day, she had me cumming back for more and I usually rarely repeat.
Seeking is useless here. Girls keep agreeing to meet, then going ghost at the time we schedule, then say "oh sorry I was busy with school, bills, problems etc" Better off just hitting the brothels at least you know you're guaranteed something. If you're a solo traveler and want a companion through seeking, you'll be having your time wasted a lot and your plans for the day ruined.
ElSexoChino7
09-21-23, 21:49
Seeking is useless here. Girls keep agreeing to meet, then going ghost at the time we schedule, then say "oh sorry I was busy with school, bills, problems etc" Better off just hitting the brothels at least you know you're guaranteed something. If you're a solo traveler and want a companion through seeking, you'll be having your time wasted a lot and your plans for the day ruined.Colombian women in general are flaky as fuck LOL. I think everyone here knows that. You should always have 3-5 dates lined up ahead of time just in case they flake, which most of them are. You just need 1 that's not going to flake LOL. I was in the same boat as you when I was in Bogota last month. I got around 15-20 Whatsapp numbers from Seeking and ended up banging only 3, but it was worth it. 2 of them I banged twice and will see them again when I come back to Bogota. The other one is a gorgeous 20 yrs old university student who only does it on the side to make extra money for her school expenses. She got a fucking sexy Colombian accent I've ever heard. Talking to her in Spanish just made me horny enough LOL. Sexy moans. Took an hour break after the 1st pop. We've talked about her school and how she makes easy money from her older clients (senior citizens) who just want to see her naked and touch her cause they just can't perform anymore. Banged her again in full mish and finish in doggy. You can find some of my reports in "Bogota reports" section last month August. All 3 of them I met on Seeking. Some are from other online websites.
II really like the taller indigenous looking beauties with black hair..Which ones do you mean? I only know the short and squat ones that wear bright dresses and shuffle to music in the streets.
I'm up for it LOL. What exact dates will you be there? I'll be there the week of Halloween.I am in town the entire month of October. 1-31. DM me and we will connect.
Mr Enternational
09-22-23, 14:36
Colombian women in general are flaky as fuck LOL. I think everyone here knows that. I got around 15-20 Whatsapp numbers from Seeking and ended up banging only 3, but it was worth it. 2 of them I banged twice and will see them again when I come back to Bogota.If they don't flake!
Which ones do you mean? I only know the short and squat ones that wear bright dresses and shuffle to music in the streets.Those are the same ones I've seen there as well. I can remember a few years back there was one of them very different than the others walking around selling candy and kind of cute versus the others typically sitting and dancing and asking for coins.
So I decided to interact with her, and gave her some coins for a piece of candy and tried to speak with her but couldn't understand a single word she said as she was speaking some dialect with no Spanish words I could make out.
Oh well, I thought I might be going with another "candy girl" but that wasn't in the cards.
It can consume a lot of time and energy. I don't mind it once every so often.
Surfer dropping gems in here. I abandoned trying to make friends while mongering a long time ago. Straight up watch people pay in dollars and talk about using money exchanges and look the other way now.
I had a bad session in the Channel Hotel behind the church back in 2021. It's all your fault!
Yes, I'm going to go down in infamy here as the board member who single handily ruined mongering in Medellin with all my posts going back several years now.
There's been estimates by others that as a result of all my posts, thousands of new mongers have shown up that have changed the mongering landscape.
I guess I will always just be a pariah for many here as a result of all my posts, but do think many benefited from some of my posts, just like other board members who have been posting here for several years now like myself.
So if I have been able to help others with information here, is that so bad, as isn't that what this Site is for, to help others to monger here.
Colombian women in general are flaky as fuck LOL. I think everyone here knows that. You should always have 3-5 dates lined up ahead of time just in case they flake, which most of them are. You just need 1 that's not going to flake LOL. I was in the same boat as you when I was in Bogota last month. I got around 15-20 Whatsapp numbers from Seeking and ended up banging only 3, but it was worth it. 2 of them I banged twice and will see them again when I come back to Bogota. The other one is a gorgeous 20 yrs old university student who only does it on the side to make extra money for her school expenses. She got a fucking sexy Colombian accent I've ever heard. Talking to her in Spanish just made me horny enough LOL. Sexy moans. Took an hour break after the 1st pop. We've talked about her school and how she makes easy money from her older clients (senior citizens) who just want to see her naked and touch her cause they just can't perform anymore. Banged her again in full mish and finish in doggy. You can find some of my reports in "Bogota reports" section last month August. All 3 of them I met on Seeking. Some are from other online websites.How much for edit (nvm I found it in your past post) That's how much I pay
Which ones do you mean? I only know the short and squat ones that wear bright dresses and shuffle to music in the streets.An example. Me likee.
An example. Me likee.I have never seen an indigenous woman like this in Centro or anywhere else in Colombia.
Where is this one from, as if I saw something like that roaming around and working I'd go for it, but my last attempt with an indigenous was futile given the language barrier.
I had better luck with a "gypsy" in Croatia, she was an animal, and I couldn't understand a single word, but many times that doesn't even matter as you can have great sessions with no need to communicate verbally.
An example. Me likee.Oh I see. The Amazonas. You don't need to worry about scop w those, you just have to watch out for poison arrows.
GeneHickman
09-23-23, 20:48
An example. Me likee.I think unfortunately their populations the continent over have declined. There are many mixed ones. I pulled one off seeking, actually an economist and fairly attractive. I only sessioned once with her, we spent all day and I gave her some money. I think she said her mom was native indian. Sexually she was meh and though she was nice, not a great personality match for me. I am still in touch, she works as a tour agent putting together group tours from MDE.
Mr Enternational
09-23-23, 21:41
I have never seen an indigenous woman like this in Centro or anywhere else in Colombia.
Where is this one from, as if I saw something like that roaming around and working I'd go for it,When I went to Leticia I showed my Amazon guide a picture of an indigenous chicks I got from somewhere, can't remember. I said let's go find her. He said you are not going to find a chick like that in Colombia, only in Brazil or Peru. Later on I wanted to get a shirt made with the image so I did a photo search. Turns out the chick is a Brazilian porn star.
Gringo Trooper
09-23-23, 22:59
I was going through my old posts and noticed this one about. Leidy Barron (she's on IG). Dear lord, she must be 28 or 29 or so now, since I met her like 8 years ago maybe longer. But gosh darn she looks like a completely different person. These nose jobs, fake booties, and hardcore time spent getting railed really do some damage to these chicas.
I met Leidy when she was 19, so now she is likely 24 (max 25). A few pages ago her Instagram was mentioned.
Being in the game for a long time has clearly changed / damaged her. Back when I first met her she was stunning, already had a nose job and implants, but she was a sight to be seen.
I said I would pay for her taxi, because I thought she lived in Bello.
She pulls up to hotel with her 19 year old Colombian guy friend and I knew he was going to try to scam me for 20 k.
I walked up to his car and called his b S, and said I knew he wasn't a taxi driver.
I paid him because whatever, anyways, once she was chilling in my hotel she admitted that she had her own apartment next to my hotel in el Poblado.
I deleted her number because even though she was a stunner, there's tons more just like her to be found.
As users like TTM, PN and others have explained.
Got back recently from my first trip to Medallo. Stayed in an airbnb in a nice area equipped with a bolted-down lock box and a doorman.
Trip summary follows.
1. Thursday afternoon, Fantasia Energy Spa. About 15 chicas presented themselves. None that I found super hot (I prefer lean to athletic, or model types, not big-tits-and-big-ass), but one girl seemed to have a good attitude and reasonable looks. Had a pretty good experience with her. 175000 with a beer, paid before going upstairs.
2. Thursday evening, Parque Lleras. Around 8 pm there were a few dozen girls. By 10 pm probably 100 of them, at the edge of the park, standing on a couple of corners, and outside on La 10. A few who looked good, but were not very engaging. I like a little personality, so passed and went home.
3. Friday evening, Parque Lleras. Similar or slightly higher availability than the night before. Found a girl with looks and personality that I liked, negotiated a price (250000 including orale al naturale, down from an initial ask of 400000), and took her back. Disappointing experience. Once we were back at my place she was no longer fun and flirty. It was more like going to get your teeth cleaned -- all business. After we were done and I paid her, she made an attempt to raid my pants pocket (pants were on the floor) while I was looking away for a second. (There wasn't much there anyway, as all the real goods were locked in the safe.) Sent her away without cabfare.
4. Saturday afternoon, Loutron. A dozen or so girls presented, but I wasn't into any one them. I asked to wait and see more. Five more presented but again nobody I was into. Was asked again for my choice, and again I said I'd wait and see some others. In the next group of five there were two I liked. Picked one, paid at the till (415000 with the beer I drank while waiting). Excellent experience, hot and passionate.
5. Sunday evening. Had planned an evening with a girl from Tinder, with a backup date also planned with another. Both flaked. Looked online and found a nice-looking prepago with an incall in Laureles. Turned out they were operating a sort of mini-casa there -- at least four or five girls working, in a big apartment with as many bedrooms. Cute and fun girl. Pretty good experience. 150000 for an hour plus 60000 for orale al naturale.
6. Monday afternoon, New Life. About 15 girls. 14 were hard no's for me, the other one I guess I could have taken if there were no other options. I left, paid 5000 for my beer and the 3000 viewing fee (which is now charged even if you buy a drink, as per many signs all over the walls.).
7. Monday afternoon, Fantasia Energy again. Much bigger lineup than a few days before -- 25-30 girls. They presented very fast, making it a bit hard to keep track. None that I found super hot, but two or three were not bad. I picked one, she turned out to have fake tits which I don't love. OK experience. 185000 with the beer -- not sure why the price was slightly higher than a few days earlier. (I protested, before going upstairs, but they insisted.).
Overall, these were OK experiences, plus an attempted robbery. Only the relatively expensive Loutron visit was memorable in a good way. Have had better experiences in many places.
Great report. Would you mind sharing the Airbnb name if possible. My PM is active but I was not able to send you any PM.
Got back recently from my first trip to Medallo. Stayed in an airbnb in a nice area equipped with a bolted-down lock box and a doorman.
Trip summary follows.
1. Thursday afternoon, Fantasia Energy Spa. About 15 chicas presented themselves. None that I found super hot (I prefer lean to athletic, or model types, not big-tits-and-big-ass), but one girl seemed to have a good attitude and reasonable looks. Had a pretty good experience with her. 175000 with a beer, paid before going upstairs.
2. Thursday evening, Parque Lleras. Around 8 pm there were a few dozen girls. By 10 pm probably 100 of them, at the edge of the park, standing on a couple of corners, and outside on La 10. A few who looked good, but were not very engaging. I like a little personality, so passed and went home.
3. Friday evening, Parque Lleras. Similar or slightly higher availability than the night before. Found a girl with looks and personality that I liked, negotiated a price (250000 including orale al naturale, down from an initial ask of 400000), and took her back. Disappointing experience. Once we were back at my place she was no longer fun and flirty. It was more like going to get your teeth cleaned -- all business. After we were done and I paid her, she made an attempt to raid my pants pocket (pants were on the floor) while I was looking away for a second. (There wasn't much there anyway, as all the real goods were locked in the safe.) Sent her away without cabfare..
I agree but I can't explain where the really hot girls have gone. I started the webcam thing March 2020 the quality was way better then and there were more girls. Now all of the girls I've ever met in person / was going to me have gone for greener pastures. I think some have integrated back into the workforce like university and regular jobs because things got a little better in Colombia.
My thesis is that some have moved outside the country think Spain Panama Mexico Dominican Republic and started charging more. Other have gone to only fans. Others just quit. Others got scoped by sugar daddies. Either way hoeflation is real.For a long time I was skeptical of how many girls were actually going to Europe and really making it, but over the past couple of years I've met more and more girls who have gone, returned, or planning to go. I also have a few acquaintances that are Spanish and Italian. They tell me that a large proportion of the higher end P4 P there is Colombiananas and Brazilieras. The one Spaniard even complained to me that the prices at the higher end Rio Termas and Seeking was the same as Madrid, challenging his whole rationale for 'going to the source. '.
The only girls that stay in South America seem to be the ones with kids or other family complications.
Got back recently from my first trip to Medallo. Stayed in an airbnb in a nice area equipped with a bolted-down lock box and a doorman..Wow, you stayed is reportedly safe areas and went to decent and upscale places. Still you experienced an attempted robbery in a short 5 day trip.
I hope the fools that think Medellin is a cakewalk take heed.
After we were done and I paid her, she made an attempt to raid my pants pocket (pants were on the floor) while I was looking away for a second. (There wasn't much there anyway, as all the real goods were locked in the safe.) Sent her away without cabfare.Was she a Venezuelan?
Got back recently from my first trip to Medallo. Stayed in an airbnb in a nice area equipped with a bolted-down lock box and a doorman,
3. Friday evening, Parque Lleras. Similar or slightly higher availability than the night before. Found a girl with looks and personality that I liked, negotiated a price (250000 including orale al naturale, down from an initial ask of 400000), and took her back. Disappointing experience. Once we were back at my place she was no longer fun and flirty. It was more like going to get your teeth cleaned -- all business. After we were done and I paid her, she made an attempt to raid my pants pocket (pants were on the floor) while I was looking away for a second. (There wasn't much there anyway, as all the real goods were locked in the safe.) Sent her away without cabfare.
Overall, these were OK experiences, plus an attempted robbery. Only the relatively expensive Loutron visit was memorable in a good way. Have had better experiences in many places.Nice report with good information for others relative to pricing and your experiences at the different venues.
It can be so hit or miss when pulling a walker no matter where you are in Medellin whether it be Lleras or Centro.
Kind of like a box of mixed chocolates, you never know many times what your going to end up until you get them in the room.
I remember a few times getting a walker in the room, unwrapping her, and as soon as the bra comes off, their boobs fall kind of like runny eggs, or the woman is lactating which I know some guys get off on, but not me, or the girl is so loose my dick is flopping around with no friction inside of her. So in those instances I abort the session if I know I am not going to nut, and do so as nicely as possible without offending them and paying exactly what was agreed to.
Sometimes I wonder if it's a red flag when you meet someone on the street that is to your liking physically wise and personality and fun and flirty on the street, yet as soon as your in the room, boom all business.
Unfortunately a lot of the walkers have the mentality of I'll never see this guy again so fuck it. You would think some of the walkers would provide good service, maybe get a tip, and a repeat, but some are so hardcore and rightly so as they do get hosed a lot by guys.
And the worst part is the attempted robbery part, and since she didn't get anything, just getting her out versus giving her shit about her trying to rip you off is smart to avoid an altercation, as things can get ugly in a hurry, even with Spanish speaking skills.
Mr Enternational
09-24-23, 23:46
Wow, you stayed is reportedly safe areas and went to decent and upscale places. Still you experienced an attempted robbery in a short 5 day trip.
I hope the fools that think Medellin is a cakewalk take heed.What does any of the other stuff have to do with a Lleras Park chick trying to steal money out of his pants? It was not an attempted robbery, but an attempted sticky fingers, which is to be expected when doing street shit.
I have never seen an indigenous woman like this in Centro or anywhere else in Colombia.
Where is this one from, as if I saw something like that roaming around and working I'd go for it, but my last attempt with an indigenous was futile given the language barrier.
I had better luck with a "gypsy" in Croatia, she was an animal, and I couldn't understand a single word, but many times that doesn't even matter as you can have great sessions with no need to communicate verbally.I have never seen anyone like this hooking on the streets in Centro neither but have seen them in a few casas, Energy for example and the girl in the photo is almost a spitting image of a girl I used to bang in Abydos years ago.
Abydos, wow now you are really throwing it back.
I have never seen anyone like this hooking on the streets in Centro neither but have seen them in a few casas, Energy for example and the girl in the photo is almost a spitting image of a girl I used to bang in Abydos years ago.
So this girl from pereira wants to come see me in Medellin, I'm not to sure, she's 20 and I just found out she has a kid and is a single mom, what you guys think.Too skinny for me. Ask her if she has girlfriend with big boobs.
As many Colombians who want or have the wherewithal to go to Europe have had that option now that all but a small number of countries there only require tourist visas. Those who want to the option of return visits follow rules to extend or leave and those who are there for all they can get out of a one time visit do what the hell they want before packing it in. Inflation cuts into what used to be a big earnings premium compared to what they can do back in Colombia.
For a long time I was skeptical of how many girls were actually going to Europe and really making it, but over the past couple of years I've met more and more girls who have gone, returned, or planning to go. I also have a few acquaintances that are Spanish and Italian. They tell me that a large proportion of the higher end P4 P there is Colombiananas and Brazilieras. The one Spaniard even complained to me that the prices at the higher end Rio Termas and Seeking was the same as Madrid, challenging his whole rationale for 'going to the source. '.
The only girls that stay in South America seem to be the ones with kids or other family complications.
As many Colombians who want or have the wherewithal to go to Europe have had that option now that all but a small number of countries there only require tourist visas. Those who want to the option of return visits follow rules to extend or leave and those who are there for all they can get out of a one time visit do what the hell they want before packing it in. Inflation cuts into what used to be a big earnings premium compared to what they can do back in Colombia.I go quite often to Madrid and Colombianas and Paraguay girls are all around. Average price is 100€/ H.
DramaFree11
09-25-23, 21:50
As many Colombians who want or have the wherewithal to go to Europe have had that option now that all but a small number of countries there only require tourist visas. Those who want to the option of return visits follow rules to extend or leave and those who are there for all they can get out of a one time visit do what the hell they want before packing it in. Inflation cuts into what used to be a big earnings premium compared to what they can do back in Colombia.I also think is a very small percentage that are successful. Unless they are super hot or very smart it is very hard for a Latin girl to be successful in the states or Europe now. Unless they are willing to grind away in a strip bar or get married it would be pretty difficult for them.
I meet a lot of college girls on SA in CDMX, they will come to visit me at my place and almost none of them have a computer. I always ask and they say they do not need one, I am shocked. They are so far behind the Euros and Americans in computer skills it will be almost impossible for them to succeed, Not to mention the language skills. The Colombian girls that contact me on SA most refuse to speak English. I doubt this will fly in Europe when they are unwilling to speak the native language.
The few that are willing to put the hard work in with language / computer skills will be successful, but from what I have seen, most would fail horribly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvozb5eL2F8
Let's go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvozb5eL2F8
Let's go.Why would I want to go to that? It looks like some overpriced tourist / gringo bullshit. No ill stick to Centro or my barrio thank you.
JohnnieCash
09-26-23, 02:45
I also think is a very small percentage that are successful. Unless they are super hot or very smart it is very hard for a Latin girl to be successful in the states or Europe now. Unless they are willing to grind away in a strip bar or get married it would be pretty difficult for them.
I meet a lot of college girls on SA in CDMX, they will come to visit me at my place and almost none of them have a computer. I always ask and they say they do not need one, I am shocked. They are so far behind the Euros and Americans in computer skills it will be almost impossible for them to succeed, Not to mention the language skills. The Colombian girls that contact me on SA most refuse to speak English. I doubt this will fly in Europe when they are unwilling to speak the native language.
The few that are willing to put the hard work in with language / computer skills will be successful, but from what I have seen, most would fail horribly.They don't need computer skills for hooking. Nor to learn a new language if working in Spain or other Spanish-speaking countries.
Yes, that is my experience as well, in Spain, Italy, France, and Portugal. In Italy and France they've been priced out by more so by the eastern Europeans and the Africans.
I go quite often to Madrid and Colombianas and Paraguay girls are all around. Average price is 100/ H.
GeneHickman
09-26-23, 06:04
I also think is a very small percentage that are successful. Unless they are super hot or very smart it is very hard for a Latin girl to be successful in the states or Europe now. Unless they are willing to grind away in a strip bar or get married it would be pretty difficult for them.
Eh? Why would they need to do any of that if they are willing to spread their legs and find sugar relationships etc.
I meet a lot of college girls on SA in CDMX, they will come to visit me at my place and almost none of them have a computer. I always ask and they say they do not need one, I am shocked. They are so far behind the Euros and Americans in computer skills it will be almost impossible for them to succeed, Not to mention the language skills. The Colombian girls that contact me on SA most refuse to speak English. I doubt this will fly in Europe when they are unwilling to speak the native language.
The few that are willing to put the hard work in with language / computer skills will be successful, but from what I have seen, most would fail horribly.Eh? Why any of that when they ready to open their legs for $. They'll have plenty of prospects stateside.
GeneHickman
09-26-23, 06:06
As many Colombians who want or have the wherewithal to go to Europe have had that option now that all but a small number of countries there only require tourist visas. Those who want to the option of return visits follow rules to extend or leave and those who are there for all they can get out of a one time visit do what the hell they want before packing it in. Inflation cuts into what used to be a big earnings premium compared to what they can do back in Colombia.They face the same cost of living delta in EU /US v Colombia. So I would argue 200 mil is the equivalent of $100 or $150 here, adjusting for cost of living.
GeneHickman
09-26-23, 06:13
Didn't we kill Pablo for them. Why do they hate us again. Is this hatred for Americans that seems to be worldwide a jealousy thing or is it the war mongering thing. If it's the war mongering, I understand but any other reason seems odd. Especially since we give billions of aid everywhere with money we have to borrow. LOL.We also put our nose everywhere it doesn't belong, claim to spread our values when 1/2 our nation doesn't even agree on some of them, and generally act like we have a chip on our shoulder, and we weaponize our $ and financial system left and right. We also have a global taxation system and lecture others about printing $ when we do it ourselves, so yeah I think people would like an America that is live and let live. The so called rules based order is really our rules.
I also think is a very small percentage that are successful. Unless they are super hot or very smart it is very hard for a Latin girl to be successful in the states or Europe now. Unless they are willing to grind away in a strip bar or get married it would be pretty difficult for them.Most don't go to Europe to be "successful. " They go because someone told them they can make more money, either through legitimate jobs, like modeling, or hooking. I know of several who have done well modeling in Europe. The ones who go to hook, usually don't fare as well. The people who recruit and pay their way take much of what they earn.
I meet a lot of college girls on SA in CDMX, they will come to visit me at my place and almost none of them have a computer. I always ask and they say they do not need one, I am shocked. They are so far behind the Euros and Americans in computer skills it will be almost impossible for them to succeed, Not to mention the language skills. The Colombian girls that contact me on SA most refuse to speak English. I doubt this will fly in Europe when they are unwilling to speak the native language.Most can't afford a computer. If they had spare money to buy a computer they wouldn't be selling pussy. Also, most college girls selling pussy aren't enrolled at any university. However, saying "I'm in university and need extra money for expenses" almost always guarantees more money than "I fuck for money. " A dead giveaway is a "college girl" who says she doesn't need a computer. Unless the college only teaches cosmetology, any college student without a computer recognizes the need.
You're still going with the "refuse to speak English" crap? You're unlikely to find many Colombians, who are selling pussy, who can speak English. If they could speak English they would have a legit job. There's a big demand for people who are bilingual. Not speaking a language they don't know isn't a refusal.
The native language in Europe isn't English, excluding England, which is no longer part of the EU. It's German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, Greek and a bunch of others. Granted, a significant portion of the population of Europe is bilingual and can speak English.
For the record, more people speak Spanish as their native tongue (6% of the population) than speak English (5. 1% which is tied with Arabic.
The few that are willing to put the hard work in with language / computer skills will be successful, but from what I have seen, most would fail horribly.It's not from a lack of effort. There's this thing, it exists all over the world, and is a big problem in Colombia. It's called "poverty. " People who live in poverty usually don't have access to advanced education. Learning to speak another language is difficult and takes time and money. Learning computer skills takes time and money. The people in Colombia who can afford to learn those things already have sufficient money. They don't need to sell pussy to strangers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvozb5eL2F8
Let's go.Yeah, it's real but those aren't all working girls. Most of the video was shot in Provenza which has very few p4 p chicas, just girls out for a night on the town. Some of it was shot on Calle 10, which does have hookers lurking around. Be careful propositioning those Provenza girls.
They face the same cost of living delta in EU /US v Colombia. So I would argue 200 mil is the equivalent of $100 or $150 here, adjusting for cost of living.2 things here:
1. You ignore supply, demand, and local taxes / tariffs. These are all very important and prevent real prices being the same worldwide.
2. You are comparing the price of salt with saffron. EUR 100 is a price for local people. Same price in Col is COP 40.000. Your 200.000 is a price invented to rip off tourists only.
MongerHunger
09-26-23, 14:51
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-09-13/tourism-remote-workers-in-medellin-spark-local-tensions
I would be surprised if he meant them. I really like the taller indigenous looking beauties with black hair. There are not many of them hooking. I used to bang one in Abydos back in the day, she had me cumming back for more and I usually rarely repeat.I'm talking about girls like this. Definitely my type. I find more of them in small Colombian cities and from.
Venezuela. Think Veronica Rodriguez back in the day. This girl is the best girl I've ever found. Met her in Dominican Republic and did some traveling with her. Best sex of my life. Too bad I had to leave her because she's mad disrespectful.
Elvis 2008
09-26-23, 18:28
For a long time I was skeptical of how many girls were actually going to Europe and really making it, but over the past couple of years I've met more and more girls who have gone, returned, or planning to go. I also have a few acquaintances that are Spanish and Italian. They tell me that a large proportion of the higher end P4 P there is Colombiananas and Brazilieras. The one Spaniard even complained to me that the prices at the higher end Rio Termas and Seeking was the same as Madrid, challenging his whole rationale for 'going to the source. '.
The only girls that stay in South America seem to be the ones with kids or other family complications.Very interesting. That jibes with what I have heard from the non-pros. Also, Europe is safer than Colombia. I have no data to support it but I suspect the Colombians are a lot less cocky in Europe than they are in Mexico. I think the Mexican men pump up Colombian women too much.
After heading to Venezuela given all their Miss Universe wins, I was greatly disappointed with the women in Venezuela. Thing is I did see stunning Venezuelans. They were just not in Venezuela.
FWIW, all my gal's friends who have been to the USA and Europe prefer Europe. Except for family and money issues, I think most would move to Europe if they could. It makes sense that if you want a really hot Colombian, you might be better off looking to Spain than Colombia.
If you want a really hot Colombian and not pay through the nose, you need to go to places where the tourists are not. I cannot believe how much English I have heard in Medellin and Cartagena.
Most can't afford a computer. If they had spare money to buy a computer they wouldn't be selling pussy. Also, most college girls selling pussy aren't enrolled at any university. However, saying "I'm in university and need extra money for expenses" almost always guarantees more money than "I fuck for money. " A dead giveaway is a "college girl" who says she doesn't need a computer. Unless the college only teaches cosmetology, any college student without a computer recognizes the need.
.Most CAN afford a computer, but prefer to spend money on something else or simply don't need one because they are not in college. If a girl can afford one of the newest iPhones, and a lot of girls have them, she can afford to buy a used computer. Or sell pussy for a week or two and earn enough to buy one.
Weeding out girls who are not in college but say they are, is monger's responsibility. Those who pretend to be in college are easy to spot. Ask a few questions about her school and studies, check out her social media (does she have photos with her schoolmates? Wearing uniform if she is a medical student? Etc), see what her schedule / availability looks like, etc.
Legit college students would not sell pussy on the street. They are discreet and don't want to be seen hooking in a public place. So when you pick a hooker at Lleras or El Centro, chances are she never been enrolled at a university and whatever she is saying about college is BS.
I have had arrangements with college girls, and never had issues. All were legit and were happily sharing with me pics of them in class and discussing their studies and plans after graduation. Typical Lleras hoe with a lollipop in her mouth, and a bag of tussi in her purse has never set foot in college.
They face the same cost of living delta in EU /US v Colombia. So I would argue 200 mil is the equivalent of $100 or $150 here, adjusting for cost of living.For many of them it is an opportunity to travel, see the world, take nice pics, brag about their trip to amigas who couldn't make it. Also there is a chance to meet a wealthy European sugar daddy. Even if they break even after the trip, it's all good.
ColombiaLover
09-26-23, 20:43
Yeah, she must be old and ragged as hell by now. I used to think she looked pretty good, but then she started to post videos of herself putting make-up on. And you realized how unattractive she really is. The face, not to mention all of the other work she's had done. I prefer natural "girl next door" type who don't need much make-up and certainly don't need implants, lipo, veneers, tatooed eyebrows, etc.
I was going through my old posts and noticed this one about. Leidy Barron (she's on IG). Dear lord, she must be 28 or 29 or so now, since I met her like 8 years ago maybe longer. But gosh darn she looks like a completely different person. These nose jobs, fake booties, and hardcore time spent getting railed really do some damage to these chicas.
Very interesting. That jibes with what I have heard from the non-pros. Also, Europe is safer than Colombia. I have no data to support it but I suspect the Colombians are a lot less cocky in Europe than they are in Mexico. I think the Mexican men pump up Colombian women too much.
After heading to Venezuela given all their Miss Universe wins, I was greatly disappointed with the women in Venezuela. Thing is I did see stunning Venezuelans. They were just not in Venezuela.
FWIW, all my gal's friends who have been to the USA and Europe prefer Europe. Except for family and money issues, I think most would move to Europe if they could. It makes sense that if you want a really hot Colombian, you might be better off looking to Spain than Colombia.
If you want a really hot Colombian and not pay through the nose, you need to go to places where the tourists are not. I cannot believe how much English I have heard in Medellin and Cartagena.You've been to Venezuela?
Yeah, she must be old and ragged as hell by now. I used to think she looked pretty good, but then she started to post videos of herself putting make-up on. And you realized how unattractive she really is. The face, not to mention all of the other work she's had done. I prefer natural "girl next door" type who don't need much make-up and certainly don't need implants, lipo, veneers, tatooed eyebrows, etc.I remember she could be had for 250-300 mil. And as her value has completely decreased she thinks she's worth 300 usd for an hour LOL. These mde girls are absolutely delusional.
Most CAN afford a computer, but prefer to spend money on something else or simply don't need one because they are not in college. If a girl can afford one of the newest iPhones, and a lot of girls have them, she can afford to buy a used computer. Or sell pussy for a week or two and earn enough to buy one.
Weeding out girls who are not in college but say they are, is monger's responsibility. Those who pretend to be in college are easy to spot. Ask a few questions about her school and studies, check out her social media (does she have photos with her schoolmates? Wearing uniform if she is a medical student? Etc), see what her schedule / availability looks like, etc.
Legit college students would not sell pussy on the street. They are discreet and don't want to be seen hooking in a public place. So when you pick a hooker at Lleras or El Centro, chances are she never been enrolled at a university and whatever she is saying about college is BS.
I have had arrangements with college girls, and never had issues. All were legit and were happily sharing with me pics of them in class and discussing their studies and plans after graduation. Typical Lleras hoe with a lollipop in her mouth, and a bag of tussi in her purse has never set foot in college.Did you lose track of the conversation, or did you think you could score a few points?
Dramafree was talking about Colombian women on Seeking in CDMX. No connection to street hookers in Lleras or El Centro. I also have no connection to street hookers in Lleras or El Centro, so there appears to be no reason to insert them into the discussion.
Most Colombian women who are selling pussy can afford computers? Really? Or are you talking about most college students you have had arrangements with? I'm asking because I've been to Colombia and I've met Colombians, including a lot who were selling pussy. I suppose if they gave up eating and having a place to live, most could afford a computer. However, since most have no use for a computer, and do need food and a place to live, they foolishly don't buy computers.
Most can't afford the newest IPhones either. However, there are a lot of guys who buy the newest iPhones for girls, especially girls who are selling pussy. Did you not know that's where all those new phones come from?
Why is weeding out girls who are really in college from girls pretending to be in college anyone's responsibility? They are women you pay to fuck. Other men also pay them to fuck. Whether they're enrolled in university, or never graduated high school, doesn't have any relevance. The entire subject only serves 2 purposes:
1. It ensures women will be paid more for their pussy from naive guys.
2. It allows foolish guys to pretend they're not paying a prostitute, when they're paying a prostitute.
Just a side note. Did you know that students studying to be dental assistants, certified nursing assistants and many other non-degree medical field jobs, wear the exact same uniforms as those studying to be nurses and doctors?
Back to the subject, legit college students. Dramafree claimed all of the college students without computers, stated they didn't need a computer, when he asked. I'm assuming he asks because he is willing to buy them a computer. Otherwise, why ask? Would you ask a woman if she needs taxi money and then refuse to give it if she needed it? Answer the question. Do you believe no legit college student would accept the offer of a free computer?
I'm talking about girls like this. Definitely my type. I find more of them in small Colombian cities and from.
I could def be wrong but she just looks like a typical morena to me. W plastic tits. Doesn't look indigenous in the slightest. I spose her disabuela could be.
Elvis 2008
09-27-23, 16:16
You've been to Venezuela?Yeah, and the two border crossings where I not only saw but felt the differences in country was from the USSR to Finland and Venezuela to Colombia. I never thought I would feel a country as hopeless as the old USSR until I went to Venezuela, and it is worse now than when I went.
I could def be wrong but she just looks like a typical morena to me. W plastic tits. Doesn't look indigenous in the slightest. I spose her disabuela could be.I agree she looks like an average costeña / Morena with bolt-ONS not indigenous looking in the least.
Also indigenous women don't have bolt-ONS, how do I know you may wonder, it's because I met one before lmao.
Mr Enternational
09-27-23, 17:02
Most can't afford the newest IPhones either. However, there are a lot of guys who buy the newest iPhones for girls, especially girls who are selling pussy. Did you not know that's where all those new phones come from?How do guys that pay for pussy not realize this? So this bich does not have a car, a motorcycle, an authentic luxury purse, nice shoes, flooring in the house, or even 20,000 pesos for a taxi, but bought herself a 6 million peso phone? Most of them are stupid, but they are not that stupid. And if you see her with an iPhone that she did buy herself, then she has sense enough to buy a fake one. Just because the outside says iPhone, does not mean the inside says iPhone.
Why is weeding out girls who are really in college from girls pretending to be in college anyone's responsibility? They are women you pay to fuck. Other men also pay them to fuck. Whether they're enrolled in university, or never graduated high school, doesn't have any relevance. The entire subject only serves 2 purposes:
1. It ensures women will be paid more for their pussy from naive guys.
2. It allows foolish guys to pretend they're not paying a prostitute, when they're paying a prostitute.You are telling the truth today. That is why I am always confused when hookers put university student on their profile. What the fuck does that have to do with what I am hiring her for? I am not looking for a study buddy. Putting her mom is a carpenter would serve the same purpose: None!
Provenza is chock a block with prepagos.
Yeah, it's real but those aren't all working girls. Most of the video was shot in Provenza which has very few p4 p chicas, just girls out for a night on the town. Some of it was shot on Calle 10, which does have hookers lurking around. Be careful propositioning those Provenza girls.
Provenza is chock a block with prepagos.I have been up in Provenza a few times in the last month on a Friday night, and there are a lot of single girls walking around, but I did not seen any tale tell signs, like around LLeras and Calle 10 of SW's giving males the google eye and hoots as they pass by.
Perhaps I have totally missed seeing any walkers up there during my very brief past visits, unless of course your referring to Prepagos who only work the Internet, versus being walkers.
I can't envision the SW scene spilling over into Provenza, but who knows, with all the increase in tourism, maybe it already has if that is what your aware of, and if so, are you aware of any specific locations in Provenza where SW's have been spotted as that would be interesting information. Kind of like around Dominos on Calle 10, but in Provenza. I always look around the bridge crossing the Quebrada when I'm up there but haven't noticed anything, as my monger radar is always on when I'm up in that area.
As far as the politics for Provenza, I have no clue about this.
I agree she looks like an average costea / Morena with bolt-ONS not indigenous looking in the least.
Also indigenous women don't have bolt-ONS, how do I know you may wonder, it's because I met one before lmao.Now your talkin sense. Hehe.
How do guys that pay for pussy not realize this? So this bich does not have a car, a motorcycle, an authentic luxury purse, nice shoes, flooring in the house, or even 20,000 pesos for a taxi, but bought herself a 6 million peso phone? Most of them are stupid, but they are not that stupid. And if you see her with an iPhone that she did buy herself, then she has sense enough to buy a fake one. Just because the outside says iPhone, does not mean the inside says iPhone.
You are telling the truth today. That is why I am always confused when hookers put university student on their profile. What the fuck does that have to do with what I am hiring her for? I am not looking for a study buddy. Putting her mom is a carpenter would serve the same purpose: None!Who are these guys buying hookers newest iPhones? I don't know a single monger who would do that. We are talking about prepagos, right? If we are, then it makes zero sense to buy an expensive phone to some random hooker that charges you by the hour. Real relationships or some long-term SB-SD arrangements is a different story.
Why does it have to be a 6 mil peso iPhone? She can get a used one, 12 or 13 model for much less. Average Lleras hoe can make 300 mil cop per night, serving just 1 dude. 5 times x week = 1,500,000 cop. Do your math. Its not a rocket science. These hoes can make much more than a cashier at Burger King and can easily afford a freaking iphone or a computer. Do you realize she can get a payment plan and pay it off over a year or two? Your claim that every hoe's iPhone is a gift from some sucker is bullshit.
Speaking of college girls, if she is legit college girl its a great plus for me personally. I would rather spend my time with someone more educated, someone with goals in life other than party and drugs, someone who doesn't fuck dudes for living but rather to supplement income or pay for school expenses. Some do speak English, which is also a plus. But I understand your point of view, if you are fine with a 15 minute quickie with a street girl, you could care less if she is in college or not. My target audience is different than yours.
Elvis 2008
09-27-23, 18:49
Dramafree claimed all of the college students without computers, stated they didn't need a computer, when he asked. I'm assuming he asks because he is willing to buy them a computer. Otherwise, why ask? Would you ask a woman if she needs taxi money and then refuse to give it if she needed it?It is a good question. I wish I would have thought to ask it because every girl I was interested in long term ended up having a laptop.
Most Colombian women who are selling pussy can afford computers? Really? Or are you talking about most college students you have had arrangements with? I'm asking because I've been to Colombia and I've met Colombians, including a lot who were selling pussy.90% of what women bring to relationships is sex, and 90% of what men bring is money. The only women you think not selling sex are either filthy rich or the ones dating you.
I suppose if they gave up eating and having a place to live, most could afford a computer.Yeah, that sounds like the women you "date". All my gal's friends have computers and many have cars. Heck, an 18 year old cousin of hers worked hard and paid for a trip for her and her sister to Europe.
Just a side note. Did you know that students studying to be dental assistants, certified nursing assistants and many other non-degree medical field jobs, wear the exact same uniforms as those studying to be nurses and doctors?And here we go again. You and your fellow Medellin morons think that if anyone is dating an elite Colombian woman, it is a con. Yes, all those photos my gal showed me of her in Europe and Mexico were fake. So are those of all of her friends and family. They were ALL photoshopped. The cars her friends drive are rentals or from sugar daddies. None have decent paying jobs of their own. Every car on the roads is owned by men, and it is the same with all the cattle in the countryside. They are all 100% owned by men.
And the female students who know anatomy, ask me about physiology, and have textbooks costing hundreds of dollars were also putting on an elaborate act. They are such good fucking con women that we are powerless to detect which women are professional students and those who are not. We need you, Professor Shit for Brains truck driver, to tell us which women are true working professionals and which are not. In the incredibly wise words of you Professor Shit for Brains, if this women are professional, they would not be interested in you. Of course, it does not matter that you do not know the specific men and women in question.
What we know about you is you didn't pay a dime in rent in over a year, had no hot water, begged guys to help you, got a device that goes for a whopping $35 on Amazon, and bragged about having hot water.
So let me make this statement. If you think having hot water is something to brag about, the elite Colombian women are not going to be interested in you. In your case, the women are not the con artists. You are!!
Most Colombian women who are selling pussy can afford computers? Really? Or are you talking about most college students you have had arrangements with? I'm asking because I've been to Colombia and I've met Colombians, including a lot who were selling pussy. I suppose if they gave up eating and having a place to live, most could afford a computer. However, since most have no use for a computer, and do need food and a place to live, they foolishly don't buy computers.
Looks like the only Colombianas you are dealing with are dirt poor ones. Those who have no flooring in their house, starving every day, etc. Thank god, I have met different girls and our paths with the ones you mentioned do not cross.
The girls I have had arrangements with have flooring in their house, have TVs and computers, and don't have to eat out of trash containers. I have never been asked to buy them a computer, and never offered them to buy one (why would I? Once I was asked to help with repairing one due to the screen damage. I don't buy chicks iPhones and never been asked to buy one. I would only do that If I were in a relationship, there is nothing wrong with buying your GF an iPhone or a computer for her birthday. I can, and do once in a while, buy chicks some sexy lingerie, or a dress. Maybe a sexy perfume. Because I enjoy when the chick I have an arrangement with, looks sexy and smells good.
Mr Enternational
09-27-23, 19:42
Who are these guys buying hookers newest iPhones? I don't know a single monger who would do that. We are talking about prepagos, right?The same guys flying them to Cartagena, Cancun, Europe, giving them $300 for a couple of hours, etc. I do not have any friends that are mongers that would do that, but evidently many guys do because it has been announced enough on this board.
A lot of guys here talking out of line about things they really don't know. Also too many bitter mongers here worrying about what girls have and think they deserve based on their own budget. You guys need to wake up.
These top girls during a 7-10 year period of their lives will live like millionaires. There will always be a guy that buys them cars phones bags and pay for all their trips.
If you meet one of these over the hill 28-30 year old plastic hookers ask them their life story. I'll give you an example.
A famous mansion girl Alexandra.
You guys seen her with cars traveling to almost every country in the world with brand name designer bags etc etc.
How about Marcela Morales. She's in Europe with her sugar daddy and acts like she never hooked before when I know she's taken at least 100 dicks in her mouth.
This is their life. And there's another level to mongering too. It's called I got FU money and I'll do as I please. I'll fly the girl to my place and buy her whatever the fuck she wants just so I can have her at my beck and call. These are the same girls some of you like to say ain't worth more than 200 mil. And maybe you're right. But realize you're not playing on that level. So stop making assumptions.
Most hot girls will use her prime to do more than most middle income people will do in a lifetime and this is just facts.
They trade 7-10 years of their life for what's almost a certain 30-40 years of poverty unless they're smart enough to save which 99% aren't. So accept this and move on.
If you want a top notch girl and she's been exposed to big things you're going to have to pay big $$. Unless you're grandfathered in.
It really depends on which point of their life you're meeting them at.
The same guys flying them to Cartagena, Cancun, Europe, giving them $300 for a couple of hours, etc. I do not have any friends that are mongers that would do that, but evidently many guys do because it has been announced enough on this board.If a girl can get $300 for a couple of hours (and very very few can), she can easily afford to buy herself the newest iphone, clothes, etc. Even travel on her own dime. The girls who get those rates consistently, are doing well, and definitely don't live in a shack with no flooring.
If a girl can get $300 for a couple of hours (and very very few can), she can easily afford to buy herself the newest iphone, clothes, etc. Even travel on her own dime. The girls who get those rates consistently, are doing well, and definitely don't live in a shack with no flooring.$300 is 200,000 Colombian Pesos. I know a few girls that might get that much one or twice a month but consistently? Probably can count the number of girls who can pull that in on a consistent basis on one hand. And most of them are touring Europe or the Middle East. They aren't sitting at home waiting for their "I-phone" to ring.
A lot of guys here talking out of line about things they really don't know. Also too many bitter mongers here worrying about what girls have and think they deserve based on their own budget. You guys need to wake up.
These top girls during a 7-10 year period of their lives will live like millionaires. There will always be a guy that buys them cars phones bags and pay for all their trips.
If you meet one of these over the hill 28-30 year old plastic hookers ask them their life story. I'll give you an example.
A famous mansion girl Alexandra.
You guys seen her with cars traveling to almost every country in the world with brand name designer bags etc etc.
How about Marcela Morales. She's in Europe with her sugar daddy and acts like she never hooked before when I know she's taken at least 100 dicks in her mouth.
This is their life. And there's another level to mongering too. It's called I got FU money and I'll do as I please. I'll fly the girl to my place and buy her whatever the fuck she wants just so I can have her at my beck and call. These are the same girls some of you like to say ain't worth more than 200 mil. And maybe you're right. But realize you're not playing on that level. So stop making assumptions.
Most hot girls will use her prime to do more than most middle income people will do in a lifetime and this is just facts..I am with you on the fact that no one has a right to fuck anyone based on what they think that person should accept. There is no benefit in being bitter over someone not accepting what you deem they should accept. The same girl who has taken 200,000 COP might get $300 USD. *That same girl might get flown out to the DR, France, or Croatia.
However, we can also acknowledge idiocy.
Case in point. Agent 0, Former Wizards NBA star who earned nearly $200 M (this does not include any endorsement money), and now has one of the biggest sports podcasts which will undoubtedly land him a huge media contract if he decides to partner, has more fucking money than anyone who has read this damn forum at any point. And he manages to refrain from gallivanting with and spending excessive amount of money on working girls, because, no matter how you cut it, it would be fucking dumb. Openly talks about it on his streams.
"Women out here they want the Birkin Bags, they want to eat. Like 3 x a day. Fuck. *They want to go out places and they don't want to go to regular places, they want to go to all the expensive ass places. *Movies, first class tickets to shit, they want to go on vacation. There are a lot of things that come with, you know, when I can just pay $200-$250 and get right to the good stuff."
He also lays out how he "shops" on Instagram, and his DMs are all hoes. And he laughs at some of their prices, because any sane person would laugh at $5,000, no matter how much money they have.
So a 9 figure net worth individual doesn't have to wine and dine working girls. To do so is a choice, not a state of normalcy simply because one has FU money. That "level" of paying far more than you need to has nothing to do with having a staggering net worth. Or is it impossible for someone with a stratospheric net worth to do something stupid as fuck with their money?
I am with you on the fact that no one has a right to fuck anyone based on what they think that person should accept. There is no benefit in being bitter over someone not accepting what you deem they should accept. The same girl who has taken 200,000 COP might get $300 USD. *That same girl might get flown out to the DR, France, or Croatia.
However, we can also acknowledge idiocy.
Case in point. Agent 0, Former Wizards NBA star who earned nearly $200 M (this does not include any endorsement money), and now has one of the biggest sports podcasts which will undoubtedly land him a huge media contract if he decides to partner, has more fucking money than anyone who has read this damn forum at any point. And he manages to refrain from gallivanting with and spending excessive amount of money on working girls, because, no matter how you cut it, it would be fucking dumb. Openly talks about it on his streams.
"Women out here they want the Birkin Bags, they want to eat. Like 3 x a day. Fuck. *They want to go out places and they don't want to go to regular places, they want to go to all the expensive ass places. *Movies, first class tickets to shit, they want to go on vacation. There are a lot of things that come with, you know, when I can just pay $200-$250 and get right to the good stuff."
He also lays out how he "shops" on Instagram, and his DMs are all hoes. And he laughs at some of their prices, because any sane person would laugh at $5,000, no matter how much money they have.
So a 9 figure net worth individual doesn't have to wine and dine working girls. To do so is a choice, not a state of normalcy simply because one has FU money. That "level" of paying far more than you need to has nothing to do with having a staggering net worth. Or is it impossible for someone with a stratospheric net worth to do something stupid as fuck with their money?But what's the point?? The issue is that it exists. And if one has a 9 figure net worth he's more likely not taking that approach. Mongering in itself is a hobby or luxury. It's not a necessity. And just with all other luxuries there's levels to it. A hand bag can cost 100 $ or 100,000.
You only live once so whatever your budget live to the fullest and stop worrying about what others have. It's amazing how some guys want to count girls money then get upset about it. If a girl is smart enough to hustle a good life for herself more power to her. As for me I spend what I want as long as I get what I'm paying for.
Who are these guys buying hookers newest iPhones? I don't know a single monger who would do that. We are talking about prepagos, right? If we are, then it makes zero sense to buy an expensive phone to some random hooker that charges you by the hour. Real relationships or some long-term SB-SD arrangements is a different story.Who? Guys who think they're in an exclusive SB / SD relationship with them, guys who think they are just "supplementing their income" and many other types. I'll even give you an example.
About 25 years ago, one of my best friends, and fuck buddies, was a stripper. She was one of those who really was a college student when she started stripping. She had 2 special customers. One of them took her on trips all over the world, gave her the down-payment for her house and bought her an Infiniti. The other one dropped a few thousand on her each month and bought her a Harley, just a Sportster, but still a chunk. Both thought she was exclusive with them.
My old roommate had guys buying her iMacs, DSLR cameras, or just giving her ridiculous money. And those were guys who had only seen her on webcam. There is no shortage of guys who'll spend crazy money on a girl they barely know.
I even told this one before. A Venezuelan waitress I had gotten to know brought a gringo to me one morning while I was having breakfast. He wanted me to translate. First time in Colombia, he had fallen in love with her (and she wasn't super gorgeous or anything). He wanted me to explain that he was going to send her $250 every week until he could come back and marry her. He'd known her for 3 days.
Why does it have to be a 6 mil peso iPhone? She can get a used one, 12 or 13 model for much less. Average Lleras hoe can make 300 mil cop per night, serving just 1 dude. 5 times x week = 1,500,000 cop. Do your math. Its not a rocket science. These hoes can make much more than a cashier at Burger King and can easily afford a freaking iphone or a computer. Do you realize she can get a payment plan and pay it off over a year or two? Your claim that every hoe's iPhone is a gift from some sucker is bullshit.Why? Because you're the one who said "girls who have the newest iPhones. " I'm just guessing that the "newest iPhones" aren't used and 1 to 2 years old. Maybe "newest" means something different to you.
A typical, blah, blah, blah, can make 300 k in a night, minus 50 k for taxis. However, most of them can't make that every night. If they're lucky, twice a week. Most can't easily afford anything. Why? Because most of them have no sense when it comes to money. They get money and they spend it, usually on stuff they don't need.
Then there's the hooker mentality (although you can find it in any job that pays cash daily). If you get a good payday, then you party until you're broke, or you stay at home until you're broke. Very few hookers treat it like a real job, showing up every day, giving max effort and saving money.
Speaking of college girls, if she is legit college girl its a great plus for me personally. I would rather spend my time with someone more educated, someone with goals in life other than party and drugs, someone who doesn't fuck dudes for living but rather to supplement income or pay for school expenses. Some do speak English, which is also a plus. But I understand your point of view, if you are fine with a 15 minute quickie with a street girl, you could care less if she is in college or not. My target audience is different than yours.Why? I can understand the appeal of girls who speak English, if you can't speak Spanish. I can understand not wanting to be around girls who are heavy into drugs. I just don't understand "goals in life", unless you're looking for a relationship. You're paying them to fuck, whether for 15 minutes or 6 hours. If they just come over, talk about school, life goals and whatever else, no sex, no physical intimacy, are you still happy paying them?
Also, the reality is, you have no idea if they're just paying school expenses or fucking guys for money. Unless you're with them 24/7, all you know is what she tells you. Every guy who has had a girlfriend or wife cheat on them (or who has cheated on a wife or girlfriend), knows this.
Your "target audience?" Again, you're paying women for sex. An audience pays the performer, not the other way around.
Looks like the only Colombianas you are dealing with are dirt poor ones. Those who have no flooring in their house, starving every day, etc. Thank god, I have met different girls and our paths with the ones you mentioned do not cross.
The girls I have had arrangements with have flooring in their house, have TVs and computers, and don't have to eat out of trash containers. I have never been asked to buy them a computer, and never offered them to buy one (why would I? Once I was asked to help with repairing one due to the screen damage. I don't buy chicks iPhones and never been asked to buy one. I would only do that If I were in a relationship, there is nothing wrong with buying your GF an iPhone or a computer for her birthday. I can, and do once in a while, buy chicks some sexy lingerie, or a dress. Maybe a sexy perfume. Because I enjoy when the chick I have an arrangement with, looks sexy and smells good.Where did you get that from? I just repeated to you, for at least the 20th time, I don't do street girls, whether in El Centro or Parque Lleras. Never have. Even if I did, why would you, or anyone, assume that the girls are starving every day, or have no flooring? Why flooring? That's just so fucking random?
I know you don't speak Spanish, but do you at least speak English? Because you don't seem able to understand it.
I'm just baffled here. Eating out of trash containers? I understand what you're trying to do. You're trying to say that I've only fucked homeless women who are in every way disgusting. Right? But that's fucking ridiculous. Other than the occasional casa, which I haven't done in 3 years, and Las Islas, I've almost exclusively used Facebook. Not sure how many homeless women, eating out of trash containers, keep active on Facebook. Do you have any statistics on that?
I'm trying to keep on subject, but you do make it difficult. Let's start with a simple question. Are you Dramafree? I'm assuming you aren't, but you seem to think you are. Let me refresh your memory.
Back to the subject, legit college students. Dramafree claimed all of the college students without computers, stated they didn't need a computer, when he asked. I'm assuming he asks because he is willing to buy them a computer. Otherwise, why ask? Would you ask a woman if she needs taxi money and then refuse to give it if she needed it? Answer the question. Do you believe no legit college student would accept the offer of a free computer?Nobody mentioned you, until you decided, once again, to jump into a discussion without having any idea what the discussion is about.
I don't have issues with girls getting as much as they can while young with sugar daddies. It's the ones that scam guys online and never met the person that I have problems with.
I am with you on the fact that no one has a right to fuck anyone based on what they think that person should accept. There is no benefit in being bitter over someone not accepting what you deem they should accept. The same girl who has taken 200,000 COP might get $300 USD. *That same girl might get flown out to the DR, France, or Croatia.
However, we can also acknowledge idiocy.
Case in point. Agent 0, Former Wizards NBA star who earned nearly $200 M (this does not include any endorsement money), and now has one of the biggest sports podcasts which will undoubtedly land him a huge media contract if he decides to partner, has more fucking money than anyone who has read this damn forum at any point. And he manages to refrain from gallivanting with and spending excessive amount of money on working girls, because, no matter how you cut it, it would be fucking dumb. Openly talks about it on his streams.
"Women out here they want the Birkin Bags, they want to eat. Like 3 x a day. Fuck. *They want to go out places and they don't want to go to regular places, they want to go to all the expensive ass places. *Movies, first class tickets to shit, they want to go on vacation. There are a lot of things that come with, you know, when I can just pay $200-$250 and get right to the good stuff."
He also lays out how he "shops" on Instagram, and his DMs are all hoes. And he laughs at some of their prices, because any sane person would laugh at $5,000, no matter how much money they have.
So a 9 figure net worth individual doesn't have to wine and dine working girls. To do so is a choice, not a state of normalcy simply because one has FU money. That "level" of paying far more than you need to has nothing to do with having a staggering net worth. Or is it impossible for someone with a stratospheric net worth to do something stupid as fuck with their money?If the girl wants to be stupid about how much she will accept then fuck her on to the next one until you find the one who will accept your price and / or your risk-level of service. And the same thing goes in reverse, I'm sure eventually after declining numerous fair offers, she will find some idiot willing to pay $300 usd for some mediocre covered service with a washed up be.
Tch with bolt-ONS and a botox ass LOL. To each his or her own.
$300 is 200,000 Colombian Pesos. I know a few girls that might get that much one or twice a month but consistently? Probably can count the number of girls who can pull that in on a consistent basis on one hand. And most of them are touring Europe or the Middle East. They aren't sitting at home waiting for their "I-phone" to ring.$300 is $1,200,000 COP I don't quite know what happened. I proof-read before posting.
Mr Enternational
09-28-23, 18:53
First time in Colombia, he had fallen in love with her (and she wasn't super gorgeous or anything). He wanted me to explain that he was going to send her $250 every week until he could come back and marry her. He'd known her for 3 days.Fucked a hooker in Thailand a couple of weeks ago. Her beach hooker coworker met a guy from California a couple of months ago while out hooking. The guy went back home and sent her $135 every 2 days for 2 months then came back and married her. (She showed me the wedding pictures.) he is still waiting on the paperwork for her to go back home with him. He does not speak Thai and she can hardly speak English.
Stranger things have happened than a trick buying an iPhone for a hooker.
But what's the point?? The issue is that it exists. And if one has a 9 figure net worth he's more likely not taking that approach. Mongering in itself is a hobby or luxury. It's not a necessity. And just with all other luxuries there's levels to it. A hand bag can cost 100 $ or 100,000.
You only live once so whatever your budget live to the fullest and stop worrying about what others have. It's amazing how some guys want to count girls money then get upset about it. If a girl is smart enough to hustle a good life for herself more power to her. As for me I spend what I want as long as I get what I'm paying for.Guys who worry about what other guys are paying for pussy are budget conscious perhaps because they do not have a whole lot to work with and are afraid that if guys give hookers too much then those chicas will expect more from other guys including themselves. I feel for them but I am out to enjoy myself and will pay a chica an amount that I believe will yield me good service but will not overspend.
It's probably because I look thirstier and sleazier. I get propositioned whenever I'm there. Carrera 33 and the quebrada bridge are clean zones. The bars and discos between la 10 and la 8 are hot spots. I'm not a regular so what happens to me is more anecdotal than scientific. As you know, in Colombia there is a very fine line between single girls and street walkers. It's not common for girls out for civilian activities to do it without a mixed group of friends. La 10 and Lleras now make Plaza Botero feel like Disneyland. The transformation since the pandemic is really striking.
I have been up in Provenza a few times in the last month on a Friday night, and there are a lot of single girls walking around, but I did not seen any tale tell signs, like around LLeras and Calle 10 of SW's giving males the google eye and hoots as they pass by.
Perhaps I have totally missed seeing any walkers up there during my very brief past visits, unless of course your referring to Prepagos who only work the Internet, versus being walkers.
I can't envision the SW scene spilling over into Provenza, but who knows, with all the increase in tourism, maybe it already has if that is what your aware of, and if so, are you aware of any specific locations in Provenza where SW's have been spotted as that would be interesting information. Kind of like around Dominos on Calle 10, but in Provenza. I always look around the bridge crossing the Quebrada when I'm up there but haven't noticed anything, as my monger radar is always on when I'm up in that area.
As far as the politics for Provenza, I have no clue about this.
Fucked a hooker in Thailand a couple of weeks ago. Her beach hooker coworker met a guy from California a couple of months ago while out hooking. The guy went back home and sent her $135 every 2 days for 2 months then came back and married her. (She showed me the wedding pictures.) he is still waiting on the paperwork for her to go back home with him. He does not speak Thai and she can hardly speak English.
Stranger things have happened than a trick buying an iPhone for a hooker.Every time I hear a story like this, the guy happens to be from California. Well, if he got FU money, not a big deal. But marrying a hooker who can potentially get half of his assets is bizarre and can't even compare to buying an iPhone or sending a few thousand bucks.
I'm going to Medellin soon and now that I'm thinking about it, Bogota might beat Medellin in terms of quality to price ratio. You can get a 7 for a reasonable price in Santa Fe vs the same thing in Lleras for twice the amount.
I'm not sure anything beats Santa Fe in terms of ease and price for the same quality but just to make sure let me recap everything in Medellin. And you guys can fill what I'm missing. There's:
Loutron for 400 k.
La isla for 550 k and 50 k cover.
Fase dos idk prices but every time I went in 2022 I didn't see anything good.
Luna lunera idk prices same deal as fase dos.
Centro walkers I heard quality is down. Prices still cheap.
Centro casas. I have never been.
Laureles casas. Like energy. Overhyped. I forgot prices.
Gustos 150 to 300 dollars lmaoooooo.
Online:
Mileroticos I think it's like 200-300 an hour for their place and 300- 400 for domicilio.
Pasionprepago same as mileroticos but I have this one girl charging me 500 for 30 minutes at my place and she ain't even hot?
Photoprepago same deal as mileroticos.
Facebook. I recently started this by looking at the Medellin hall of shame group and finding girls on the public friends lists of guys there and adding a bunch of them. Facebook now recommends me girls. Idk about prices because I haven't asked. I haven't seen these girls on mileroticos. They seem responsive.
Seeking arrangements. Haven't asked prices haven't gotten membership but quality seems good and the consensus seems to be that it's like 25% more expensive than mileroticos.
Medellin vs Bogota.
Medellin is generally safer imo vs Santa Fe. That's how I feel.
Santa Fe is very convenient. And good quality to price ratio vs Medellin venues.
Paisas are friendlier than rolas and provide better service imo.
Online anything sucks in Bogota. I was so consistently disappointed I just stopped looking. Waste of time.
Am I missing any venues? Any hidden gems?
Elvis 2008
09-29-23, 07:44
The same guys flying them to Cartagena, Cancun, Europe, giving them $300 for a couple of hours, etc.Why would someone fly someone out for a couple of hours as opposed to the whole day? Who on here has posted that? Who here flies women to Europe?
I do not have any friends that are mongers that would do that but evidently many guys do because it has been announced enough on this board.For me, it is two full days travel time to Cartagena. Cancun is a 2 hour flight. So if the gal's flight to Cancun and whatever I am paying her are less than what I make in 2 days, it makes sense.
But yeah, I guess you do not know anyone making four or even three figures for one day's work.
Guys who worry about what other guys are paying for pussy are budget conscious perhaps because they do not have a whole lot to work with and are afraid that if guys give hookers too much then those chicas will expect more from other guys including themselves. I feel for them but I am out to enjoy myself and will pay a chica an amount that I believe will yield me good service but will not overspend.I don't spend much time thinking about what other guys pay because it doesn't really matter. I offer what I think is reasonable and fair for the girl, and she can accept it or pass on it. If she rejects it, I move on to the next girl. Every guy is different in terms of his financial condition. What is a lot to one guy may be peanuts to the next guy. Every girl is different in terms of age, looks and performance. What one girl is willing to accept may be completely different than what another girl is willing to accept. It doesn't matter to me what one guy is willing to pay another girl. Now, I do understand the desire to make fun of other guys who you think are overpaying because it makes you feel like you are superior to that guy and you are so much smarter than the other guy but other than that, it is irrelevant. If the girl is asking more than you are willing to pay her, then just move on to the next girl.
I'm going to Medellin soon and now that I'm thinking about it, Bogota might beat Medellin in terms of quality to price ratio. You can get a 7 for a reasonable price in Santa Fe vs the same thing in Lleras for twice the amount.
I'm not sure anything beats Santa Fe in terms of ease and price for the same quality but just to make sure let me recap everything in Medellin. And you guys can fill what I'm missing. There's:
Loutron for 400 k.
La isla for 550 k and 50 k cover.
Fase dos idk prices but every time I went in 2022 I didn't see anything good.
Luna lunera idk prices same deal as fase dos.
Centro walkers I heard quality is down. Prices still cheap.
Centro casas. I have never been.
Laureles casas. Like energy. Overhyped. I forgot prices.
Gustos 150 to 300 dollars lmaoooooo.I was last night in Santa Fe with Woodman.
Will report on Bogota section, I did find at least two girls to my liking and went up with one 20 years slim, no kids damage 100 k + 10 k room. Had to repeat as first time got knock on door to soon! This suck but definitely in SF you can get gems for good price. I felt very safe all around, however we came back walking to Tequendama suite hotel and two police stopped and told us was not safe doing that as we crossed deserted areas.
JohnnieCash
09-29-23, 13:31
Mileroticos I think it's like 200-300 an hour for their place and 300- 400 for domicilio.Check the reviews on catadorcolombia and doncolombia, they mention the prices.
Facebook... Idk about prices because I haven't asked. They seem responsive.What are you chatting with WGs about though? Prices are 200-250+ mil generally.
Curious how you guys configure and manage your mongering Facebook profile.
1. Do you show your age in profile?
2. Do you use your own photo?
3. Do you use your own name or make up one?
4. Do you set your location as Medellin or your country / city?
5. Do you maintain the profile with regular updates / photos and such?
Mr Enternational
09-29-23, 17:23
I don't spend much time thinking about what other guys pay because it doesn't really matter. I offer what I think is reasonable and fair for the girl, What criteria do you use in deciding what is reasonable and fair?
Mr Enternational
09-29-23, 17:32
Why would someone fly someone out for a couple of hours as opposed to the whole day? Who on here has posted that? Who here flies women to Europe?I think you missed the commas. I said the same guys flying them to Cartagena. The same guys flying them to A. The same guys flying them to Z. The same guys giving them $300 for a couple of hours, I. E. Gustos or taking them out of La Isla. Not meaning the same guys flying them to Cancun to give them $300 for a couple of hours. Yes there have been reports here of posters flying them to Europe.
Check the reviews on catadorcolombia and doncolombia, they mention the prices.
What are you chatting with WGs about though? Prices are 200-250+ mil generally.I forgot to add lleras. That's like 200 to 400 for SW's.
I just said hi to them on Facebook and asked if they were in Medellin. I just want to meet a girl next door type not a sillicone doll that I’m seeing in Facebook.
Curious how you guys configure and manage your mongering Facebook profile.
1. Do you show your age in profile?
2. Do you use your own photo?
3. Do you use your own name or make up one?
4. Do you set your location as Medellin or your country / city?
5. Do you maintain the profile with regular updates / photos and such?I don't see the benefit of using a different profile. I hate Facebook anyways and having on login for verything just makes my life easier.
I don't see the benefit of using a different profile. I hate Facebook anyways and having on login for verything just makes my life easier.I don't use FB for non-mongering purposes so I only have a single FB profile. Yes to all questions.
A separate account is one of several steps you would have to take to prevent facebook introducing ALL your contacts to each other. The other steps are covered in a couple of searchable threads in this web site.
I don't see the benefit of using a different profile. I hate Facebook anyways and having on login for verything just makes my life easier.
It's probably because I look thirstier and sleazier. I get propositioned whenever I'm there. Carrera 33 and the quebrada bridge are clean zones. The bars and discos between la 10 and la 8 are hot spots. I'm not a regular so what happens to me is more anecdotal than scientific. As you know, in Colombia there is a very fine line between single girls and street walkers. It's not common for girls out for civilian activities to do it without a mixed group of friends. La 10 and Lleras now make Plaza Botero feel like Disneyland. The transformation since the pandemic is really striking.I am jealous, I have never have been propositioned in Provenza, only on Calle 10 and around LLeras.
You sound like a "babe magnet", maybe it's because your a Centro street rat who typically are very sleazy and thirsty to dump a load on a moments notice as you have described yourself. LOL.
All kidding aside, the transformation of Calle 10 and the Lleras area since the Pandemic seems to be in step with the increase of tourism.
And the prices being reported here by others are ridiculous, especially when the quality at least what I have seen is on par with Centro as this is where a lot of the SW's have been showing up from as I and others have noticed.
I wonder if the blatancy of SW's on Calle 10 and the Lleras area will occur in Provenza, and I wouldn't be surprised if it did.
I am jealous, I have never have been propositioned in Provenza, only on Calle 10 and around LLeras.
You sound like a "babe magnet", maybe it's because your a Centro street rat who typically are very sleazy and thirsty to dump a load on a moments notice as you have described yourself. LOL.
All kidding aside, the transformation of Calle 10 and the Lleras area since the Pandemic seems to be in step with the increase of tourism.
And the prices being reported here by others are ridiculous, especially when the quality at least what I have seen is on par with Centro as this is where a lot of the SW's have been showing up from as I and others have noticed.
I wonder if the blatancy of SW's on Calle 10 and the Lleras area will occur in Provenza, and I wouldn't be surprised if it did.He is confusing Provenza with Calle 10 and Parque Lleras. I have been dining out and partying in Provenza countless times, and never got approached by a working girl. Heck, they even have cops now by the entrance on calle 10, right next to the burger joint and La Cruda restaurant. There are no SW in provenza. You may see some p4 p girls, but they are wined and dined there, not standing around looking for a client. The vast majority are normal people having fun and enjoying themselves.
A separate account is one of several steps you would have to take to prevent facebook introducing ALL your contacts to each other. The other steps are covered in a couple of searchable threads in this web site.I agree with this statement if you use Facebook for your real friends. It can get awkward. I don't use FB anymore with my friends and so I just started deleting all my real friends and started over with girls from Medellin.
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