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What criteria do you use in deciding what is reasonable and fair?Price threads are on-going here and there has been a lot of back and forth about what is too much. It tends to get very hostile with a lot of guys insulting other guys and calling them simps so I don't want to get into that. There are too many variables for the girls so there is no one set going-rate for girls in Medellin. For each person, it boils down to their own financial situation, and how much they really want that particular girl. My take on it is if you are happy with paying a certain amount to a girl and she is happy with the amount, then it is a win-win. Now, you could have paid less, but you don't have any issues with it so I would not worry about it.
You are here on vacation. You want to have a good time. You're having a good time and the amount you spend is fine with you. Then I would say the amount you paid to the girls is reasonable and fair to you.
He is confusing Provenza with Calle 10 and Parque Lleras. I have been dining out and partying in Provenza countless times, and never got approached by a working girl. Heck, they even have cops now by the entrance on calle 10, right next to the burger joint and La Cruda restaurant. There are no SW in provenza. You may see some p4 p girls, but they are wined and dined there, not standing around looking for a client. The vast majority are normal people having fun and enjoying themselves.The police presence has been at the main entrance to Provenza for quite a while know, and I don't believe he is confusing Provenza with Calle 10 and Parque LLeras.
Although you and I have never been approached when there, I suspect there are some SW's working inside Provenza, but let's say a different category of SW's than we see working Calle 10 and Lleras.
Meaning ones that don't congregate with others, wear slutty looking outfits, and are a bit more sophisticated, and for many, might not be recognizable to us, especially being dispersed amongst so many other people walking around in Provenza.
Her beach hooker coworker met a guy from California a couple of months ago while out hooking. The guy went back home and sent her $135 every 2 days for 2 months then came back and married her. (She showed me the wedding pictures.) he is still waiting on the paperwork for her to go back home with him. He does not speak Thai and she can hardly speak English.
Stranger things have happened than a trick buying an iPhone for a hooker.My theory is that some never experienced good sex and the first time they do experience nice behaviour + sex their brains get zapped. You can only feel sorry for those poor bastards.
i do understand the desire to make fun of other guys who you think are overpaying because it makes you feel like you are superior to that guy and you are so much smarter than the other guy but other than that, it is irrelevant. Other guys like to overpay bcos it makes them feel superior to think they are wealthier and get better chicks.
Other guys like to overpay bcos it makes them feel superior to think they are wealthier and get better chicks.Exactly, they think because they found her on seeking and pay her 400 k COP or more that she is cleaner or provides a better service than chicas who can be found in cheaper venues.
I thought I wrote that Provenza has prepagos. It's reassuring to be considered a normal person. I've been known to have a drink or two when I'm out but so far I haven't gotten so juiced that I can tell the difference between la 10, Lleras and Provenza.
He is confusing Provenza with Calle 10 and Parque Lleras. I have been dining out and partying in Provenza countless times, and never got approached by a working girl. Heck, they even have cops now by the entrance on calle 10, right next to the burger joint and La Cruda restaurant. There are no SW in provenza. You may see some p4 p girls, but they are wined and dined there, not standing around looking for a client. The vast majority are normal people having fun and enjoying themselves.
That is indeed the deal. They have to keep a lower profile and dress more modestly than their Lleras / la 10 counterparts (not very difficult). The checkpoints are not at all difficult to defeat. It's pretty simple to just walk in the back way or at any corner of la 10 west of the checkpoints. I'm wondering why there are anti sex tourism signs at the entrances of restaurants on carrera 33 if there are no prepagos. But seriously, in Provenza girls don't whistle or pull at your clothes like on la 10 but they are working.
The police presence has been at the main entrance to Provenza for quite a while know, and I don't believe he is confusing Provenza with Calle 10 and Parque LLeras.
Although you and I have never been approached when there, I suspect there are some SW's working inside Provenza, but let's say a different category of SW's than we see working Calle 10 and Lleras.
Meaning ones that don't congregate with others, wear slutty looking outfits, and are a bit more sophisticated, and for many, might not be recognizable to us, especially being dispersed amongst so many other people walking around in Provenza.
Yes, that is not a realistic point of view but I can understand the desire. If it's believable it's worth it. I don't believe it and it's not because I can't afford it.
Exactly, they think because they found her on seeking and pay her 400 k COP or more that she is cleaner or provides a better service than chicas who can be found in cheaper venues.
My theory is that some never experienced good sex and the first time they do experience nice behaviour + sex their brains get zapped. You can only feel sorry for those poor bastards.I do agree with this. Unfortunately now my brain has been zapped by mongering and I have trouble finding good sex in the states.
I hate to miss out on this money debate. LOL.
I remember a few weeks ago that Gobacho posted that he paid 150 mil for a FB date and the girl came by public transportation. I was thinking that is smart with money, and probably takes skill too. I have never been able to get a FB girl to come by metro and I proposed to pay them 50 mil to ride metro. To me that is the gist of the whole thing regardless how much you spend.
Here I am in a city where I can get 30 minutes for less than USD5. Why pay 10 when I only need to pay 5, right? LOL.
... so there is no one set going-rate for girls in Medellin. ....The amount you pay a girl is about the amount of the majority of her customers pay her. You limit your amount and you limit the pool of the girls you can have.
Exactly, they think because they found her on seeking and pay her 400 k COP or more that she is cleaner or provides a better service than chicas who can be found in cheaper venues.They are definitely a lot hotter that's for sure. The performance point I understand. But I can't even get excited about many of these 150 k and 200 k skanks. I'm fine with paying $20 to $40 more to actually get it up. That's a Taco Tuesday takeout order for me.
I do agree with this. Unfortunately now my brain has been zapped by mongering and I have trouble finding good sex in the states.You can always have sex with an attractive girl with GFE performance in the United States even if you are average looking and have no game. The problem is that it will cost you a lot, about $350 to $400. Ja ja ja.
Just landed in med from bog. Talked to one of my cam girls while in Bogota. 2 weeks ago she was thrilled to go to guatape with me. The day before I get to Medellin she's like sorry I'm seeing someone rn. In my head I'm like why you talking to me then gtfo I'm not going to be your back up. So that's done. Just ghosted her.
Talked to another one of my cam girls. She wants Mexican food but after I land she's like sorry I'm busy. Very flaky. At least she didn't ghost me and I'm probs meeting with her on Tuesday.
Went to Santa Guadalupe in Amsterdam plaza very good restaurant. It started to pour but it stopped. So I went to lleras. Same old story but it looks like there's less girls than usual and the quality is slightly down in my eyes. Maybe because it was raining. I saw the two blonde twins but they seemed to be taken. I want to see what they are about. Yea it looks like centro girls just come to lleras. Welcome to centro after hours.
Went to gustos. 20 k cover like usual. Looks like more staff. Different waitresses upstairs. The one with the really big tits wasn't there. Maybe a guy sweeped her up. Quality down?
Wouldn't do any of the girls there. Even if they were 200 k. They just aren't my type. Like they are girls who were insecure because they are the good looking and then they get surgery to cover up their ugliness but I can still see they are ugly. And it's overpriced. They just aren't for me.
Club was emptier than I thought. For 11 pm.
Is it rain? Is it because. It's Saturday? Holiday maybe? What's the deal?
Lots of Indian guys at the park tho which is interesting.
Went to la isla. Took me like 30 minutes to get an Uber. Taxis are charging me 30 k to go to la isla. I'm like nah and Ubers are cancelling in front of my face because the police that is specifically designed to stop Ubers from taking customer is right next to my pick up spot. I finally got one tho for 9 k.
La isla was also emptier than I would imagine for 12 pm Saturday night.
Saw a girl I did last year was surprised she was still there. But should I really be surprised now that the price is 550 k. Ridiculous. She was hounding.
Me to have sex I'm like nah I just came to scope out the talent. She did tell me however that it is kinda empty today and that a ton of girls, the majority, come on Wednesday and Sunday. So I'm going to go and check it out on those days. I did be friend one girl I not really befriend but I got her Instagram and I know for a fact she comes on Thursdays so I'm going to do her on Thursday.
Saw the girl I lost my virginity to there. Was also surprised she was there because I thought she went to Mexico. Was a pleasant encounter. Sweet girl.
Here are my thoughts Santa Fe Bogota clubs vs la isla:
La isla has a high price now. I only saw one girl who I would pay that price for and she wasn't even that crazy Good.
I will say that La Isla quality concentrates very heavily around seven. You'll find a lot of 7's. La isla is very consistent you'll find a multitude of sevens and a handful of eights.
Bogota on the other hand the bad is really bad but the good is really good. There's a lot of variance because they import the girls and everybody who lives in Santa Fe is terrible but the girls are really good. Isla on the other hand because everybody's mostly from Medellin and girls from medellin are just consistently above average, Isla is just consistently above average with a handful of eights and maybe one day you'll find a nine.
Either way, I have three months here. I'll try to find some success and report back on like what's the best way that has worked out for me is it camgirls is it Casas is it online? Is it Facebook who knows?
I just want two girls that are at my beck and Call, and whenever I need them to come, they do the job and I don't have to think about it so the only thing I have to think about is how to make more money that's it.
Yea it looks like centro girls just come to lleras. Welcome to centro after hours.
I've been saying this was the case since 2021. I had first hand proof; one of my girls, Geisis (a black vennie I had followed here from Bogota) explained to me that her and her friends would work in botero / Veracruz during the daytime hours until around 8 pm and then they would go down to poblado in the evenings thru early am and charge 150 k to 200 k per hour instead of their normal 30 k or 40 k per half hour that they charge in Centro.
I remember asking her why she wouldn't just only work poblado since it paid so much better and she told me that she had to do the normal ratos in centro first to make sure she would have taxi money otherwise she could risk getting stuck in poblado if she didn't get any customers on that particular day because they would stay until after the metro and buses stopped running.
I reported on this back in 2021 that it was the same girls just more dolled up and wearing better clothes and charging the gringos 3 or 4 times more money and no one believed me. Then in 2022 you guys said there was a few Centro girls there but not that many and now finally in 2023 you guys are saying the same thing I said in 2021 lmao.
Just landed in med from bog. Talked to one of my cam girls while in Bogota. 2 weeks ago she was thrilled to go to guatape with me. The day before I get to Medellin she's like sorry I'm seeing someone rn. In my head I'm like why you talking to me then gtfo I'm not going to be your back up. So that's done. Just ghosted her.
Talked to another one of my cam girls. She wants Mexican food but after I land she's like sorry I'm busy. Very flaky. At least she didn't ghost me and I'm probs meeting with her on Tuesday.
Went to Santa Guadalupe in Amsterdam plaza very good restaurant. It started to pour but it stopped. So I went to lleras. Same old story but it looks like there's less girls than usual and the quality is slightly down in my eyes. Maybe because it was raining. I saw the two blonde twins but they seemed to be taken. I want to see what they are about. Yea it looks like centro girls just come to lleras. Welcome to centro after hours.
Went to gustos. 20 k cover like usual. Looks like more staff. Different waitresses upstairs. The one with the really big tits wasn't there. Maybe a guy sweeped her up. Quality down?
Wouldn't do any of the girls there. Even if they were 200 k. They just aren't my type. Like they are girls who were insecure because they are the good looking and then they get surgery to cover up their ugliness but I can still see they are ugly. And it's overpriced. They just aren't for me.
Club was emptier than I thought. For 11 pm.
Is it rain? Is it because. It's Saturday? Holiday maybe? What's the deal?
Lots of Indian guys at the park tho which is interesting.
Went to la isla. Took me like 30 minutes to get an Uber. Taxis are charging me 30 k to go to la isla. I'm like nah and Ubers are cancelling in front of my face because the police that is specifically designed to stop Ubers from taking customer is right next to my pick up spot. I finally got one tho for 9 k.
La isla was also emptier than I would imagine for 12 pm Saturday night.
Saw a girl I did last year was surprised she was still there. But should I really be surprised now that the price is 550 k. Ridiculous. She was hounding.
Me to have sex I'm like nah I just came to scope out the talent. She did tell me however that it is kinda empty today and that a ton of girls, the majority, come on Wednesday and Sunday. So I'm going to go and check it out on those days. I did be friend one girl I not really befriend but I got her Instagram and I know for a fact she comes on Thursdays so I'm going to do her on Thursday.
Saw the girl I lost my virginity to there. Was also surprised she was there because I thought she went to Mexico. Was a pleasant encounter. Sweet girl.
Here are my thoughts Santa Fe Bogota clubs vs la isla:
La isla has a high price now. I only saw one girl who I would pay that price for and she wasn't even that crazy Good.
I will say that La Isla quality concentrates very heavily around seven. You'll find a lot of 7's. La isla is very consistent you'll find a multitude of sevens and a handful of eights.
Bogota on the other hand the bad is really bad but the good is really good. There's a lot of variance because they import the girls and everybody who lives in Santa Fe is terrible but the girls are really good. Isla on the other hand because everybody's mostly from Medellin and girls from medellin are just consistently above average, Isla is just consistently above average with a handful of eights and maybe one day you'll find a nine.
Either way, I have three months here. I'll try to find some success and report back on like what's the best way that has worked out for me is it camgirls is it Casas is it online? Is it Facebook who knows?
I just want two girls that are at my beck and Call, and whenever I need them to come, they do the job and I don't have to think about it so the only thing I have to think about is how to make more money that's it.A buddy and I were also out last night in provenza and lleras hoping to scope out for new fresh talent to add to our roster, but then the monsoon rains came and that pretty much fucked the night for everyone. We ended up just heading home and called over two facebook girls who are regulars for us to salvage the rainy night. They showed up around midnight and we drank bottles of wine on the balcony and they are still sleeping in our beds. Time to wake them up and head to cyclovia for some salpicon.
...she told me that she had to do the normal ratos in centro first to make sure she would have taxi money otherwise she could risk getting stuck in poblado if she didn't get any customers on that particular day because they would stay until after the metro and buses stopped running....Using the same logic, once she has a date in El Poblado, she can stop going to El Centro the next day and just repeat the same thing, right? Or just lower her rate to 150 or 100 mil in Poblado so she can get her taxi money more easily, no? BTW, I am not looking for an answer.
You were right then and you are right now. You were not the only one saying that. To be fair, it's not so easy to notice if you don't know the girls very well or you aren't in Medellin on a regular basis. The human mind is fascinating. All manner of creative imagination and confirmation bias go into play to get our heads to deny what our eyes see.
I've been saying this was the case since 2021. I had first hand proof; one of my girls, Geisis (a black vennie I had followed here from Bogota) explained to me that her and her friends would work in botero / Veracruz during the daytime hours until around 8 pm and then they would go down to poblado in the evenings thru early am and charge 150 k to 200 k per hour instead of their normal 30 k or 40 k per half hour that they charge in Centro.
I remember asking her why she wouldn't just only work poblado since it paid so much better and she told me that she had to do the normal ratos in centro first to make sure she would have taxi money otherwise she could risk getting stuck in poblado if she didn't get any customers on that particular day because they would stay until after the metro and buses stopped running.
I reported on this back in 2021 that it was the same girls just more dolled up and wearing better clothes and charging the gringos 3 or 4 times more money and no one believed me. Then in 2022 you guys said there was a few Centro girls there but not that many and now finally in 2023 you guys are saying the same thing I said in 2021 lmao.
I've been saying this was the case since 2021. I had first hand proof; one of my girls, Geisis (a black vennie I had followed here from Bogota) explained to me that her and her friends would work in botero / Veracruz during the daytime hours until around 8 pm and then they would go down to poblado in the evenings thru early am and charge 150 k to 200 k per hour instead of their normal 30 k or 40 k per half hour that they charge in Centro
I reported on this back in 2021 that it was the same girls just more dolled up and wearing better clothes and charging the gringos 3 or 4 times more money and no one believed me. Then in 2022 you guys said there was a few Centro girls there but not that many and now finally in 2023 you guys are saying the same thing I said in 2021 lmao.Your seeing posts about this from newer board members who were not on this board two years ago. You, and myself, along with others, have been posting about the evolution and return to mongering on Calle 10 and Lleras area after Colombia opened up about eight months after the Pandemic started.
I would say that now perhaps the majority of the posters on this board are post pandemic members that had not been to Colombia before, or only briefly and not aware of the changes.
The good news in what I call the evolution of Calle 10 and Lleras since the Pandemic is that there is something for everybody.
Many of the newer mongers stay in Pobaldo, have access to great dining and bars, along with an ample supply of SW's nearby to pull from.
As far as the bitching and moaning of which I've remarked on several times about the asking prices, it's irrelevant, because those board members pulling from Calle 10 and Lleras can afford it.
And for the board members who have been here since before the Pandemic and never pulled from Lleras, I see it having no effect on them because they would never pay 4 to 5 times for the same thing that could be had in Centro.
I think one poster said "welcome to Centro after hours" which I think is very succinct.
So it's good for everybody what's happened, and hopefully nobody here is going to blame me for what's evolved on Calle 10 and the Lleras area meaning that I told all the hookers in Centro that they could make 4 to 5 times on Calle 10 hence it's my fault. LOL.
I suspect Provenza may fall to what I will call "SW blatancy" in the coming year.
More to follow I'm sure.
It can cost you that and a great deal more if the attractive girl turns out to be an undercover vice police officer.
You can always have sex with an attractive girl with GFE performance in the United States even if you are average looking and have no game. The problem is that it will cost you a lot, about $350 to $400. Ja ja ja.
Using the same logic, once she has a date in El Poblado, she can stop going to El Centro the next day and just repeat the same thing, right? Or just lower her rate to 150 or 100 mil in Poblado so she can get her taxi money more easily, no? BTW, I am not looking for an answer.Who knows. She started waiting me to pay her more bcuz the 100 mil for BBFS I had been giving her since 2018 in Bogota was no longer good enough and I stopped seeing here in November of 2021. And now she's living in Spain.
[] can stop going to El Centro the next day and just repeat the same thing, right? Or just lower her rate to 150 or 100 mil in Poblado so she can get her taxi money more easily, no?. [ / QUOTE] or she can work in both places and earn more money.
Using the same logic, once she has a date in El Poblado, she can stop going to El Centro the next day and just repeat the same thing, right? Or just lower her rate to 150 or 100 mil in Poblado so she can get her taxi money more easily, no? BTW, I am not looking for an answer.Yea but the problem is that they blow the money as fast as they get it, they don't necessarily save it from day to day, atleast not when I knew her she didn't.
Mr Enternational
10-01-23, 22:27
I've been saying this was the case since 2021. I had first hand proof; one of my girls, Geisis (a black vennie I had followed here from Bogota) explained to me that her and her friends would work in botero / Veracruz during the daytime hours until around 8 pm and then they would go down to poblado in the evenings thru early am and charge 150 k to 200 k per hour instead of their normal 30 k or 40 k per half hour that they charge in Centro.Many of us have been saying this for way more than 2 years, but Poblado die hards never wanted to face it.
I remember asking her why she wouldn't just only work poblado since it paid so much betterSame reason McDonald's does not only sell hamburgers in airports where they are known to be more expensive. It is called price discrimination. Get what you can wherever you can get it. No since in only working Poblado where there is a lower chance of you making the higher price when you can also work downtown where there is a higher chance of getting the lower price. Unless you are like Heineken and only want to be known as premium.
or she can work in both places and earn more money.She is already working in both places. It sounds like she is still living from day to day and don't have saving for the raining day. They don't think like many us normally think that's why I am not looking for an answer.
I hate to miss out on this money debate. LOL.
I remember a few weeks ago that Gobacho posted that he paid 150 mil for a FB date and the girl came by public transportation. I was thinking that is smart with money, and probably takes skill too. I have never been able to get a FB girl to come by metro and I proposed to pay them 50 mil to ride metro. To me that is the gist of the whole thing regardless how much you spend.
Here I am in a city where I can get 30 minutes for less than USD5. Why pay 10 when I only need to pay 5, right? LOL.Yeah, I have been to some of those super low-end joints in centro in Rio, the quality is definitely lacking, to put it mildly. I remember the madam standing at the door yelling out to passerby in portuguese "pussy only $5"(LOL).
All the girls from la isla are the same quality as the best girls from Santa Fe.
Before I said that the best girls from Santa Fe are better than la isla and that the worst girls are worse than any girl In la isla. But I realize that I was wrong.
La is la is definitely better than Santa Fe. It's that in Santa Fe you have Greta girls right next to really bad girls so the hot girls look really hot by comparison. In la isla almost all the girls are hot and all are definitely above average so all the girls just look normal if you compare them to each other.
It's like if you're Dan bilzerian. All you see is hot girls so a hot girl looks normal to you and normal girl looks ugly to you. You're exposed to so many hot girls they all look normal at la isla.
Does this justify 550 k? Not for me. I would pay 400 k but why am I crying over $40 dollars.
I do agree with this. Unfortunately now my brain has been zapped by mongering and I have trouble finding good sex in the states.Same here in Europe.
Despite zapping look after your mental, physical and financial health and you will be fine.
Mr Enternational
10-02-23, 15:41
Does this justify 550 k? Not for me. I would pay 400 k but why am I crying over $40 dollars.At some point you should probably cry over $40. If someone tried to charge you $42 for something you are used to paying $2 for, I am sure you would not say I am not going to cry over $40. But it seems for pussy guys tend to develop the type of attitude where they do not mind paying more. If you were to want to pay the girl $40 less, should she not cry over $40?
Yeah, I have been to some of those super low-end joints in centro in Rio, the quality is definitely lacking, to put it mildly. I remember the madam standing at the door yelling out to passerby in portuguese "pussy only $5"(LOL).I think maybe you forgot to mention in Rio it usually starts at 10 minutes so that maybe $5 for 10 minutes if you can still find it.
Mr Enternational
10-02-23, 19:31
I think maybe you forgot to mention in Rio it usually starts at 10 minutes so that maybe $5 for 10 minutes if you can still find it.Which is generally sufficient. I am there to fuck and get my rocks off, not to make long play love to a hooker. Beats telling a Seeking chick that I am going to wine and dine her then take her home to fuck her for the same 10 minutes and pay her $120.
You broke it down to brass tacks. Where's the lie?
Which is generally sufficient. I am there to fuck and get my rocks off, not to make long play love to a hooker. Beats telling a Seeking chick that I am going to wine and dine her then take her home to fuck her for the same 10 minutes and pay her $120.
ElSexoChino7
10-03-23, 02:50
All the girls from la isla are the same quality as the best girls from Santa Fe.
Before I said that the best girls from Santa Fe are better than la isla and that the worst girls are worse than any girl In la isla. But I realize that I was wrong.
Does this justify 550 k? Not for me. I would pay 400 k but why am I crying over $40 dollars.Last time I went to La Isla was this past March 2023. Went on a Saturday night around 1:00 am. Got my drink and chill in the bar while watching crazy activities going on. It was a busy night. Your typical American brothers are making it rain of pesos while the girls are getting crazy picking up those pesos in the floor. Quality of girls are mixed of mostly 7's and a handful of 8's. Around 80% of girls are silicone dolls and only few natural girls. I saw 4 girls in the stage legs spread wide open while fucking dildos, while guys telling them 'Rapido!' 'Rapido!' waiting for them to squirt LOL. 2 of them even climbed up the pole while fucking dildos up there LOL. Shit was crazy. You will never see those in US strip clubs. I've been approach by few girls while watching, but after seeing all those silicone makes me turn off and lose interest so just decided to watch the entertainment in front of me.
I understand why you got to cry over $40, Santa Fe prices still cannot be beat though, especially the street girls. Woodman even mentioned 50 k prices or less on his Bogota reports. Street actions are just not my thing though. I always stick to clubs, SA or online. I remember when I paid 170 k for a solid 8 girl in Fase dos, I still regret till today why I didn't get her number. Came back there 2 times and never saw her again. She got the soft perfect ass matched with a cute face. Went to Loutron the next day, paid 300 k for a HOT MILF, which is 9 on my scale. She was all natural. Double the's boobs. I sucked those tits and she was lactating LOL. First time tasted milk from a pro. It was a phenomenal experience even the sex was amazing. I was pleased and even gave her 100 k tip. I'm glad I did not get anything from that got tested right away after the trip. Got her number tried to hit her up on my recent trip, but no response. Probably changed her number which some girls do. This was back in 2019. I miss those years right before COVID where the service and quality of girls are on its peak for mongering. Even though the dollars is not the equivalent of exchange rate today. You will get your money's worth back then with a hot girl. I'm not saying you cannot get the same today, but the quality just went downhill, plus the inflated prices. Reason why you got to take care of your regular girls that's always giving you a good time.
I'm looking to venture out and give the 'Mansion' a try on my visit to Medellin this month and see how it is.
MarquisdeSade1
10-03-23, 05:28
"It can cost you that and a great deal more if the attractive girl turns out to be an undercover vice police officer. ".
Watch tus huevos out there.
https://www.aol.com/news/160-arrested-crackdown-patrons-sex-224840996.html
I was enjoying your post until you let me down with the punter 101 misstep of not getting the phone number of a girl you really enjoyed. I like to err on the side of caution because I much prefer the bother of deleting numbers I later decide I won't use to regretting not getting the number of I girl I really want to see again. I'm with you 100% about the silicone. Besides my dislike for it, I feel badly for the girls who do it to themselves. It's a big health risk. I've talked a few girls out of it.
Last time I went to La Isla was this past March 2023. Went on a Saturday night around 1:00 am. Got my drink and chill in the bar while watching crazy activities going on. It was a busy night. Your typical American brothers are making it rain of pesos while the girls are getting crazy picking up those pesos in the floor. Quality of girls are mixed of mostly 7's and a handful of 8's. Around 80% of girls are silicone dolls and only few natural girls. I saw 4 girls in the stage legs spread wide open while fucking dildos, while guys telling them 'Rapido!' 'Rapido!' waiting for them to squirt LOL. 2 of them even climbed up the pole while fucking dildos up there LOL. Shit was crazy. You will never see those in US strip clubs. I've been approach by few girls while watching, but after seeing all those silicone makes me turn off and lose interest so just decided to watch the entertainment in front of me.
I understand why you got to cry over $40, Santa Fe prices still cannot be beat though, especially the street girls. Woodman even mentioned 50 k prices or less on his Bogota reports. Street actions are just not my thing though. I always stick to clubs, SA or online. I remember when I paid 170 k for a solid 8 girl in Fase dos, I still regret till today why I didn't get her number. Came back there 2 times and never saw her again. She got the soft perfect ass matched with a cute face. Went to Loutron the next day, paid 300 k for a HOT MILF, which is 9 on my scale. She was all natural. Double the's boobs. I sucked those tits and she was lactating LOL. First time tasted milk from a pro. It was a phenomenal experience even the sex was amazing. I was pleased and even gave her 100 k tip. I'm glad I did not get anything from that got tested right away after the trip. Got her number tried to hit her up on my recent trip, but no response. Probably changed her number which some girls do. This was back in 2019. I miss those years right before COVID where the service and quality of girls are on its peak for mongering. Even though the dollars is not the equivalent of exchange rate today. You will get your money's worth back then with a hot girl.
Your best bet is to go to LLeras Park Club in the Poblado area next to the Park. The mansion bar is a bar / lounge with music and so is Lleras Park Club. The real difference is that Lleras Park will have from 50 to 70 girls depending on the time of the night whereas the Mansion is very hit or miss with having from only a few girls to a max. Peak of a dozen or so. No comparison.Anyone know if it's still open or around? Can't seem to find it on google maps. They have an old FB page that hasn't had a post since 2018.
Anyone know if it's still open or around? Can't seem to find it on google maps. They have an old FB page that hasn't had a post since 2018.I was just in medellin Its gone but replaced with different club.
I was just in medellin Its gone but replaced with different club.Is the new one the same format? Any idea where its located?
LoveItHere
10-04-23, 03:46
Which is generally sufficient. I am there to fuck and get my rocks off, not to make long play love to a hooker. Beats telling a Seeking chick that I am going to wine and dine her then take her home to fuck her for the same 10 minutes and pay her $120.10 minutes? Really? You always talk about all your GFs all over the world but now telling us that 10 minutes is enough time. You can not even get a woman warmed up in that kind of time so how exactly could you keep any GF anywhere? Do not answer you will just lie like when you told us your rent has not increased in 14 years.
It takes two minutes just to enter the room and take off clothes. Not you, her. One minute to say a few words, put on a condom, and get on the bed. One minute of super short foreplay to enjoy her body by simply caressing her body. I need to suck on tits to get me going. That leaves only 6 minutes if everything went perfect. But if she tries to do a striptease, talk, or go to the bathroom you lose another minute. That now leaves you with 5 minutes. I am jealous of all mongers that can do that. It saves you a ton of money. But I feel horrible for any GF or wife that you may have. You must be rich because the sex is not keeping them around.
Mr Enternational
10-04-23, 04:07
10 minutes? Really? You always talk about all your GFs all over the world but now telling us that 10 minutes is enough time. You can not even get a woman warmed up in that kind of time so how exactly could you keep any GF anywhere? Sorry sir. I am not in the business of warming up hookers. Why are you even trying to compare what I said I do with hookers to what I did not say I do with a normal girlfriend? I do not travel with hookers. I do not go to dinner with hookers. This has nothing to do with a normal girlfriend. There is a lot of shit I do not do with hookers that I do with normal girlfriends. It is a shame that some people can not separate the two and do not know there are differences.
Mr Enternational
10-04-23, 04:11
Do not answer you will just lie like when you told us your rent has not increased in 14 years.Yes it is a lie that my rent in Thailand has not been the same 4500 baht since the day I moved in to my place 14 years ago. Please fill me in on how much it started out as and how much it is today since you seem to know the truth.
Which is generally sufficient. I am there to fuck and get my rocks off, not to make long play love to a hooker. Beats telling a Seeking chick that I am going to wine and dine her then take her home to fuck her for the same 10 minutes and pay her $120.If all you need is a 10 minute quickie, then it makes no sense to meet a Seeking girl regardless the rate.
Me personally, I prefer to have a nice meal / drinks with a beautiful female companion, get to know her, let the rapport build up, then bring her back to my place and fuck as much as I want without any rush, with all the GFE attributes included.
If you are happy with a bowl of rice and beans, don't tell me I need to eat the same. I will enjoy my steak.
GeorgeCarta22
10-04-23, 06:25
Just landed in med from bog. Talked to one of my cam girls while in Bogota. 2 weeks ago she was thrilled to go to guatape with me. The day before I get to Medellin she's like sorry I'm seeing someone rn. In my head I'm like why you talking to me then gtfo I'm not going to be your back up. So that's done. Just ghosted her.
Talked to another one of my cam girls. She wants Mexican food but after I land she's like sorry I'm busy. Very flaky. At least she didn't ghost me and I'm probs meeting with her on Tuesday.
Went to Santa Guadalupe in Amsterdam plaza very good restaurant. It started to pour but it stopped. So I went to lleras. Same old story but it looks like there's less girls than usual and the quality is slightly down in my eyes. Maybe because it was raining. I saw the two blonde twins but they seemed to be taken. I want to see what they are about. Yea it looks like centro girls just come to lleras. Welcome to centro after hours.
Went to gustos. 20 k cover like usual. Looks like more staff. Different waitresses upstairs. The one with the really big tits wasn't there. Maybe a guy sweeped her up. Quality down?
Wouldn't do any of the girls there. Even if they were 200 k. They just aren't my type. Like they are girls who were insecure because they are the good looking and then they get surgery to cover up their ugliness but I can still see they are ugly. And it's overpriced. They just aren't for me.
Club was emptier than I thought. For 11 pm.
Is it rain? Is it because. It's Saturday? Holiday maybe? What's the deal?
Lots of Indian guys at the park tho which is interesting.
Went to la isla. Took me like 30 minutes to get an Uber. Taxis are charging me 30 k to go to la isla. I'm like nah and Ubers are cancelling in front of my face because the police that is specifically designed to stop Ubers from taking customer is right next to my pick up spot. I finally got one tho for 9 k.
La isla was also emptier than I would imagine for 12 pm Saturday night.
Saw a girl I did last year was surprised she was still there. But should I really be surprised now that the price is 550 k. Ridiculous. She was hounding.
Me to have sex I'm like nah I just came to scope out the talent. She did tell me however that it is kinda empty today and that a ton of girls, the majority, come on Wednesday and Sunday. So I'm going to go and check it out on those days. I did be friend one girl I not really befriend but I got her Instagram and I know for a fact she comes on Thursdays so I'm going to do her on Thursday.
Saw the girl I lost my virginity to there. Was also surprised she was there because I thought she went to Mexico. Was a pleasant encounter. Sweet girl.
Here are my thoughts Santa Fe Bogota clubs vs la isla:
La isla has a high price now. I only saw one girl who I would pay that price for and she wasn't even that crazy Good.
I will say that La Isla quality concentrates very heavily around seven. You'll find a lot of 7's. La isla is very consistent you'll find a multitude of sevens and a handful of eights.
Bogota on the other hand the bad is really bad but the good is really good. There's a lot of variance because they import the girls and everybody who lives in Santa Fe is terrible but the girls are really good. Isla on the other hand because everybody's mostly from Medellin and girls from medellin are just consistently above average, Isla is just consistently above average with a handful of eights and maybe one day you'll find a nine.
Either way, I have three months here. I'll try to find some success and report back on like what's the best way that has worked out for me is it camgirls is it Casas is it online? Is it Facebook who knows?
I just want two girls that are at my beck and Call, and whenever I need them to come, they do the job and I don't have to think about it so the only thing I have to think about is how to make more money that's it.Are there any other clubs like gustos? Seems like it's just park sws but I kinda like the club pick up atmosphere better.
Sorry sir. I am not in the business of warming up hookers. Why are you even trying to compare what I said I do with hookers to what I did not say I do with a normal girlfriend? I do not travel with hookers. I do not go to dinner with hookers. This has nothing to do with a normal girlfriend. There is a lot of shit I do not do with hookers that I do with normal girlfriends. It is a shame that some people can not separate the two and do not know there are differences.Sometimes with hookers you just want to basically rip off their clothes as soon as you get them in the room, dump a load in them, and get rid of them as soon as possible.
I remember many years ago when I used to hang in Tijuana on the weekends I encountered a woman who worked the streets part time, and whenever I would go with her she would always complain about her husband whom she referred to as "Speedie Gonzalez".
She would tell me that when he penetrated her that after about twenty pumps he would blow his load and she was so frustrated as he couldn't even last two minutes, which wasn't nearly enough time for her to even get warmed up, let alone orgasm.
So perhaps for some giving a hooker 10 minutes of their time is being generous. LOL.
Is the new one the same format? Any idea where its located?Parque Lleras with the new club, Black Diamond.
I was enjoying your post until you let me down with the punter 101 misstep of not getting the phone number of a girl you really enjoyed. I like to err on the side of caution because I much prefer the bother of deleting numbers I later decide I won't use to regretting not getting the number of I girl I really want to see again. I'm with you 100% about the silicone. Besides my dislike for it, I feel badly for the girls who do it to themselves. It's a big health risk. I've talked a few girls out of it.In 2009 I was in New Life seated with one other monger, a local, when the lineup paraded. In that lineup was one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. The papasan asked the Colombian dude for his choice and my mind was going bonkers. He chose, to my consternation and relief, another woman. I immediately selected my choice who turned out to be also a nice person and a very good lay. After I left the place I thought I should have taken her phone number but those were the days when hot providers were readily available in the casas. However, as time went on I began to feel more and more that I should have taken her number. I returned the next day to seek her but she was not there and never to be seen by me again. To this day I regret not having got her contact information.
I'm not going to lie. I've made that mistake too although it's been quite a while. If I had to guess I'm going to say the Colombian's choice had a fatter ass than the girl you wanted. I know a very attractive and slender girl who works in a casa. She told me most of her clients are foreigners because the Colombians don't go for her body type.
In 2009 I was in New Life seated with one other monger, a local, when the lineup paraded. In that lineup was one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. The papasan asked the Colombian dude for his choice and my mind was going bonkers. He chose, to my consternation and relief, another woman. I immediately selected my choice who turned out to be also a nice person and a very good lay. After I left the place I thought I should have taken her phone number but those were the days when hot providers were readily available in the casas. However, as time went on I began to feel more and more that I should have taken her number. I returned the next day to seek her but she was not there and never to be seen by me again. To this day I regret not having got her contact information.
Are hotels in Medellin mostly guest friendly? If they aren't, anyone have recommendations in the El Poblado area?
I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.
I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS
It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).
I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.
Here's tonight's takeaway.
Follow your instincts and judgment.
Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).
Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.
LoveItHere
10-06-23, 15:50
One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it.
Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.Firstly, helping newbies usually ends up as a loss. Not even a breakeven situation because they never listen to a pros advice.
She came up to you was the first red flag. That is an 80% bad omen.
Thanks for taking one for the team! You helped another guy down the line. I get tired of doing it all the time. If more guys fought back then the girls will be less likely to F us over. She still received a good payday of 160,000 COP.
Last night I took a girl for the 4th time. Very rare occurrence. But it was rainy and late. I swear for a split second she was about to ask for money first this time. Then she held up her hands showing 10 (100,000 COP) when I paid her 50,000 the first 3 times. It was cool outside so she pulled her half shirt up but not off (thin girl so probably cold). She tried slightly to have me not suck on her boobs (never happened before). I took a little longer and offered 10,000 COP extra to finish. She wanted 20,000 COP. I agreed because I never gave her extra before and knew this was our last hurray.
I swear these girls must think I have fallen in love with them. Same crap happened to me in the Philippines years ago. 80% of the girls turn to crap on the 3rd or 4th meeting (the very few that make it that far).
I'm not going to lie. I've made that mistake too although it's been quite a while. If I had to guess I'm going to say the Colombian's choice had a fatter ass than the girl you wanted. I know a very attractive and slender girl who works in a casa. She told me most of her clients are foreigners because the Colombians don't go for her body type.As recent as 6 years ago New Life had really hot chicas. Back in 2016 I chose this young chica who must have been 18/19 with slim body and pretty face. Thing is she was inexperienced. She was so tight I had problems penetrating even with lube. If I remember correctly I did not come. Tight body and small firm breasts. The inexperience made the chemistry all wrong.
Are hotels in Medellin mostly guest friendly? If they aren't, anyone have recommendations in the El Poblado area?Provenza lofts is girl friendly. Lost my "virginity" there. There another hotel near by that is by the same owner as Provenza lofts but I don't remember the name.
And I think hotel dix is also girl friendly but I ah ent been there.
I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.
The ones with ugly faces are always the worst. Every girl that I had that has great looking face was always nice. Also I feel like the more girls charge the more entitled and bratty they will be. Also I always pay up front. Every girl I've ever been with expects it upfront the first time. After the second time they know me and trust me so they just come in do the deed and I pay them and they are happy. I don't know what's up with gustos but it seems to attract girls that act that way. I would only take a 9 out from gustos and I've never seen a 9 in Colombia that is working. A 9 is objectively perfect. A 10 is objectively perfect and your type.
I get lazy sometime and don't want to go out and find girls at gusto or other clubs.
Tinder has been good to me when I initially came, but the last week it was getting really slow.
Last night I decided to purchase tinder platinum and I got 26 new matches overnight.
Two of them are 9's and I'm looking forward knocking them down (they are pros for sure).
What I like about dating apps, is that you can find both a real GF and you can pay others if you like.
I haven't used seeking.com on here, but I saw that there are a crazy amount of girls on there.
I feel like they are overpriced there, does anyone have experience on seeking in Medellin?
I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.
I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS
It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).
I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.
Here's tonight's takeaway.
Follow your instincts and judgment.
Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).
Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.I had one like that, luckily she had a job and no choice but to leave my place empty handed. I had another I met in lleras, I told her straight up I wasn't paying I just wanted to kick it with her, she said it was a slow night for her so she didn't mind. I did have to pay to get her phone fixed in the am though, but wasn't much LOL.
I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.
I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS
It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).
I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.
Here's tonight's takeaway.
Follow your instincts and judgment.
Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).
Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.I had something kind of sort of similar happen to me in Bogota back in August. I had a homegirl bring me a friend of hers (SF SG) to my hotel on cra 13 and Calle 22 near santa fe.
The deal was suppose to be 100 mil COP for BBFS. I also had to pay 20 mil exidente to the hotel to bring her to my room.
Anyways long story short we get in my room and she starts demanding the 100 mil pesos adelentado (up front) and I'm like "siempre pago después" And she says no and that she always charges up front and insists on the money. So then I start making sure she understood how the service was going to be because I know from experience that when you pay up front they often change the rules of the agreement and don't do what was agreed upon. So I asked her if she understood that the servicio was sin condóand and then she replies "tenemos que cuidarnos".
After hearing that in my mind I'm like nah ***** your getting the fuck out of my room your not getting a dime let alone 100 mil pesos. So I ask her politely in Spanish to leave, I'm like "sabes que no quiero el servicio, usted puede salir de mi pieza, porfa" and get this, the ***** refuses to fucking leave my room. Amazing. This makes me even more mad that she won't leave, and I'm a pretty big dude I'm like 230 lbs. So I literally pick the ***** up and throw her into the hall way and shut the door to my room behind me locking us both outside of the room. Then I start calling her pinche gonorrhea and hijueputa and all that shit why que me the asco why sal de mi hotel pinche Veneca, etc.
Then the hotel manager dude, whom I've known since 2018, comes and escorts her the rest of the way out to the street. And I explain what happened to the hotel dude how she wanted to charge me upfront and tried to change the terms of the agreement and then refused to leave after being asked politely to do so. And low and behold he gave me back my 20 mil I had paid for her exidente fee and told me I was in the right to ask her to leave.
-Gabacho.
The ones with ugly faces are always the worst. Every girl that I had that has great looking face was always nice. Also I feel like the more girls charge the more entitled and bratty they will be. Also I always pay up front. Every girl I've ever been with expects it upfront the first time. After the second time they know me and trust me so they just come in do the deed and I pay them and they are happy. I don't know what's up with gustos but it seems to attract girls that act that way. I would only take a 9 out from gustos and I've never seen a 9 in Colombia that is working. A 9 is objectively perfect. A 10 is objectively perfect and your type.Well I think some might disagree with you regarding looks and service if that is what your referring to with the "ugly girls" as I think at times the ones with the prettier faces are worse, but that is just my opinion.
However on more substantial issue, paying up front when your taking someone back to your place, or them requesting payment up front beforehand is a huge red flag.
As once they've been paid they may just lay there, provide shitty service, and push to get the deed done ASAP.
This doesn't always happen, but there is a simple solution to guarantee hopefully a better session.
Before leaving with the girl, simply tell them that you always pay afterwards, and if they are not willing to accept this, then consider saying adios as this is a red flag.
And a compromise position if your really enamored with the girl is to offer one half up front and the other half upon completion.
Sometimes, myself included, forget that we as mongers are in the drivers seat, not the hooker.
RamDavidson84
10-07-23, 00:57
I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.
I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS
It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).
I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.
Here's tonight's takeaway.
Follow your instincts and judgment.
Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).
Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.Nice play Carrib, I can tell you heart was in the right place to give the security guy the 125. I am assuming he caught your back and rid that girl from your apartment. Bro, I also got to say though, if you take a girl back to your place, unless she is denying service, drugging you, or robbing you, you got to pay her bro. I can't say I totally blame her here. Also logically speaking, that was a huge amount of money to throw a security guard, that 125 $ was probably his weekly paycheck. The only thing this guy will think for the rest of his interactions with gringos is how can he get money out of them and he's going to replay this story to everyone he knows. I respect a good tipper, but 125 $ to a security guard is overboard and sets a bad precedent which can affect the game. Always respect the game before the hoe playa.
The ones with ugly faces are always the worst. Every girl that I had that has great looking face was always nice. Also I feel like the more girls charge the more entitled and bratty they will be. Also I always pay up front. Every girl I've ever been with expects it upfront the first time. After the second time they know me and trust me so they just come in do the deed and I pay them and they are happy. I don't know what's up with gustos but it seems to attract girls that act that way. I would only take a 9 out from gustos and I've never seen a 9 in Colombia that is working. A 9 is objectively perfect. A 10 is objectively perfect and your type.You are the only monger in history who has said "I always pay up front".
Nice play Carrib, I can tell you heart was in the right place to give the security guy the 125. I am assuming he caught your back and rid that girl from your apartment. Bro, I also got to say though, if you take a girl back to your place, unless she is denying service, drugging you, or robbing you, you got to pay her bro. I can't say I totally blame her here. Also logically speaking, that was a huge amount of money to throw a security guard, that 125 $ was probably his weekly paycheck. The only thing this guy will think for the rest of his interactions with gringos is how can he get money out of them and he's going to replay this story to everyone he knows. I respect a good tipper, but 125 $ to a security guard is overboard and sets a bad precedent which can affect the game. Always respect the game before the hoe playa.
Ram that is good advice and I appreciate it, however I am sure i agree with “if u take a girl back to your place, you have to pay her” however to your point, I alway say never get into an argument with a Chica, so I will also pay something to get her ass to leave.
It was a huge amount and that was an additional fuck up on my part-in any case I have a few more days to try to talk to said security guard and explain why I gave him so much money. I can't remember the last time I had a problem with a Chica as I usually screen them well but this time I was caught off guard with a Chica I would normally never give the time of day, again my mistake. As for warning them that you never pay of front, what if she lies and then demand payment up front? The problem is that most of these Chicas understand that the majority of gringos fear the Colombian polce and oftentimes use that to their advantage.
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One last word about paying upfront, that sets a terrible precedent so please refrain from doing so, if a Chica demands payment upfront, you can show her you have the money to pay her and if she still refuses, show her ass the door. Hopefully you won't have to deal with the BS I encountered. She's lucky we weren't at a love motel, I would I simply paid the hotel and left her ass there. Some of you mongers have allowed these putas to take complete control of the mongering scene here in Medellin, basic and borderline ugly putas are asking 250 USD.
It isn't always going to be a problem. In my experience more often than not the best case scenario after you pay up front is a subpar session, and it goes downhill from there. There are too many other options to take the risk in my opinion. Sometimes I will tell a girl that she offended me by asking. That's helped put them on defensive and sometimes accept my terms. If they don't then I just move on. I don't have first time encounters in my home. A couple of the short time joints in Centro are like second homes to me so I guess they count as exceptions.
Well I think some might disagree with you regarding looks and service if that is what your referring to with the "ugly girls" as I think at times the ones with the prettier faces are worse, but that is just my opinion.
However on more substantial issue, paying up front when your taking someone back to your place, or them requesting payment up front beforehand is a huge red flag.
As once they've been paid they may just lay there, provide shitty service, and push to get the deed done ASAP.
This doesn't always happen, but there is a simple solution to guarantee hopefully a better session.
Before leaving with the girl, simply tell them that you always pay afterwards, and if they are not willing to accept this, then consider saying adios as this is a red flag.
And a compromise position if your really enamored with the girl is to offer one half up front and the other half upon completion.
Sometimes, myself included, forget that we as mongers are in the drivers seat, not the hooker.
I wanted to briefly add this in hopes that it might help. Been to Colombia many times. I hate Cartagena due to the heat. Bogota is like a western city. Medellin however, wow how beautiful she is.
If you are looking to meet people, facebook is the best way. Just do a search of random people in medellin or Antiquola (spelling), and just message and friend people. I used to have a FB, and pretty much once you make one friend, they all start messaging you. This is the safest manner.
Club gusto sucks. Parque lleras is cool, but there is better spots. The mansion hotel is a good beginner spot from what I heard. Never went since I was connecting with people on Facebook.
One thing however, be careful with drugs. Its really popular down there, and really cheap. I haven't went back in 18 months. Last thing that kinda worried me was a guy from Southern CA getting drugged and killed by a chick he met on tinder. To everyone on this sub, Colombia is a poor country. So be mindful. Someone once gave me a few basic rules.
1. Be mindful. In Colombia, people will kill you for $50-$100 USD.
2. don't look at anyone wrong. You never know if that nerd is the nephew of the cartel boss.
3. Be aware of your surroundings.
4. Cops are crooks here. Don't carry shit with you since I have had many times cops stop me and pat me down.
I usually stayed in Poblado, at a nice airbnb. When booking an airbnb, contact the peopele via Airbnb and find their company on google. You can usually save up to 30% by not going through airbnb and instead booking through their company page.
Anyways, that's it for now. I have so much to share but am a little disorganized with my thoughts. If you're going to medellin, enjoy! Its a fucking beautiful place. Imagine a city in a jungle bowl. And the women, wow are they beautiful. I mean The Paisas, women from Medellin, they are a mix between european and latin. Light complexion, beautiful.
Hope to share more soon! For now, I got to start gettting ready for my Thailand trip!
I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.
I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS
It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).
I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.
Here's tonight's takeaway.
Follow your instincts and judgment.
Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).
Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.Gustos is a shit show. What are you doing there. It's a zombie apocalypse.
It isn't always going to be a problem. In my experience more often than not the best case scenario after you pay up front is a subpar session, and it goes downhill from there. There are too many other options to take the risk in my opinion. Sometimes I will tell a girl that she offended me by asking. That's helped put them on defensive and sometimes accept my terms. If they don't then I just move on. I don't have first time encounters in my home. A couple of the short time joints in Centro are like second homes to me so I guess they count as exceptions.In very simple terms, any one who pays upfront loses all their leverage with a Chica, and some of the more devious Chicas will renege on what was agreed to and even request additional monies to include what was originally agreed to after being paid.
And for many of the newbie mongers here with little to no experience in Colombia, and little to no Spanish speaking skills, they can get taken, especially when a Chica threatens to call the Police as than typically the monger becomes frightened.
There's just to many pitfalls in paying upfront, and I made this mistake around ten years ago when I was in Santa Fe in Bogota, my time was limited, and for whatever reason I made the mistake of paying upfront for a Chica, and I got burned.
The girl was nice enough and everything was fine in the room until I noticed lots of blood on the condom.
You talk about a boner killer, upon the sight of the blood I immediately ended the session, and the girl told me it was normal for her to work during her period.
And she was very blatant about it, not even trying to play dumb like she didn't know she was on her period which is typically what is said when Chicas pull this stunt.
So this is just one example of the risks in paying upfront.
As far as mongering in Centro, I can't ever remember a Chica asking me to pay her upfront, but we are talking chump change of typically $ 10 USD there and even less. LOL.
However, I do remember one incident in Centro where I agreed to 30 K with a Chica, and when we got into the room she said she wanted 40 K.
So I got up and said goodbye while she begged me to stay saying that she would accept what was originally agreed to.
So she made nothing, and I was out the cost of the room which is chump change and avoided what would not of been a good session after the drama.
I think everyone here would agree that avoiding a "bad session" is paramount.
So if I think a bad session may be in the works when I'm with a Chica, I end the session and move on.
I get lazy sometime and don't want to go out and find girls at gusto or other clubs.
Tinder has been good to me when I initially came, but the last week it was getting really slow.
Last night I decided to purchase tinder platinum and I got 26 new matches overnight.
Two of them are 9's and I'm looking forward knocking them down (they are pros for sure).
What I like about dating apps, is that you can find both a real GF and you can pay others if you like.
I haven't used seeking.com on here, but I saw that there are a crazy amount of girls on there.
I feel like they are overpriced there, does anyone have experience on seeking in Medellin?Seeking doesn't want to take my credit card.
I tried this tinder thing. With platinum. Didn't get any matches. Maybe I'll wait a day.
I did see a few cams girls.
I know on that. These are cam girls that didn't want to give me their contact info so we could meet up. I also saw a few girls from seeking on tinder.
I probably don't get any matches because these girls don't think I'm foreigner. I look Hispanic.
Tried looking for a girls on mileroticos. None of the girls are replying. It's seems like they treat this as a job. Monday to Friday 10 to 6 pm. No overtime.
You are the only monger in history who has said "I always pay up front".Crazy lmao. Ok will say that yes. There have been times where I have paid up front and got bad service. Once from a girl who used to do lleras for 250 k then moved to gustos recently and now charges at least 150 usd. I gave her 400 thinking I was being nice because I know her from before she did gustos. She took the money and refused to do another until I have her 50 usd more. I was like gtfo. Did try to take the money back because I don't want problems / it's too much of. A Hassle. The other time was a entro girl I met at lleras. Payed her when we got to my place in hindsight she was ugly af. She started begging for beers and I bought them for her. She wouldn't listen when I would tell her what to do. Wanted to do it her own way. I'm like just gtfo lmao.
Maybe paying afterwards is the way. And that's what usually happens when the girl has been there for the second time. She knows the deal and she can trust me but I feel like if I don't pay before the service is going to be bad or they are going to want to rush. Idk. You guys are argue the opposite. Maybe you're right.
I read once that a guy here shows them the money but doesn't pay but pays after to show hey I have the money but I'm paying you after.
I read once that a guy here shows them the money but doesn't pay but pays after to show hey I have the money but I'm paying you after.I have another way to deal with this. If she 'insists' on being paid up front (and you don't like the chances of that working out) OR is changing the agreement and you just want her gone, you do this.
Pretend to go look for the money she wants, then pretend that you don't have enough or any at all (your choice). Tell her that you really thought you had the cash, but that you must have lost it or got pick pocketed, or some other excuse. Tell her she can follow you to an ATM to get the cash. You must do this with a very friendly and believable face. Tell her that you can understand why she'd want money up front, that you too have heard of men who try to cheat girls.
Once you are outside the Hotel / Room, give her taxi money ONLY and say 'adios chica'.
I get lazy sometime and don't want to go out and find girls at gusto or other clubs.
Tinder has been good to me when I initially came, but the last week it was getting really slow.
Last night I decided to purchase tinder platinum and I got 26 new matches overnight.
Two of them are 9's and I'm looking forward knocking them down (they are pros for sure).
What I like about dating apps, is that you can find both a real GF and you can pay others if you like.
I haven't used seeking.com on here, but I saw that there are a crazy amount of girls on there.
I feel like they are overpriced there, does anyone have experience on seeking in Medellin?It's all pros. They all pretend they are high class and not a full time prepago. It's all BS.
I have seen a lot of fb and tinder girls on seeking.
Girls on seeking really play lotto. Trying for 3-500 usd and a free expensive meal. This is the hustle.
Hoeflation: the idea that we in our generation have to put in twice the work and pay twice as much for a girl half as good as our grandfathers did.
I messaged a girl in mileroticos on August while I was in Bogota. She's In Medellin and tells me it's 300 k for the hour. I get to Medellin in October and she's like it's 450 k. Messaged her from a Colombian number. It's still 450.
Hoeflation. She's like 7. 5 -8. And she doesn’t do natural oral anymore. Wouldn’t want that anyways. Saw her sucking some tranny guy on camera
Like I said they're playing lotto.
They find one or two guys who pay that.
LoveItHere
10-08-23, 02:20
Maybe paying afterwards is the way. And that's what usually happens when the girl has been there for the second time. She knows the deal and she can trust me but I feel like if I don't pay before the service is going to be bad or they are going to want to rush. Idk. You guys are argue the opposite. Maybe you're right.All the endless posts about paying after in almost every location in the world are crazy wrong. You are the brilliant one. Carryon paying first. If you want the very best service that will simply make your head spin. Pay her before you even leave the bar, disco, or restaurant where you found her. That will build killer trust!
I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.
I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS
It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).
I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.
Here's tonight's takeaway.
Follow your instincts and judgment.
Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).
Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.If a girl acts dumb then I tell them call the damn cops. And I explain the situation and give the cops money so that the girl gets nothing. It's a loss either way.
At least if I give it to the cops they won't share with the girl. If I don't then the cops might take the girls side and make me pay the girl and she'll split it with them anyway.
ID at least fuck her in another way and she won't be going to bed happy either. LOL.
LoveItHere
10-08-23, 02:46
Went to Zandalay Saturday 3:45.9 girls. None were worth a crap. That place is stupid. I walk in. 3 guys and 4 girls at the bar drinking and talking. I buy a drink and sit down at the bench seat alone. 5 minutes later another guy comes in and sits alone across from me at another bench seat. I wait another 10 minutes. During that time a group of 3 guys come up the stairs, look around, and quickly leave. The people working there are too damn stupid to tell the 3 guys to sit down and they will bring out the rest of the girls. The people working there seem to think it is a bar and not a brothel. I have to ask the worker there to show me the girls. The girls introduce themselves and I pay and leave. Coke cost me 6000 COP there versus 3000 COP at the much better New Life.
New Life same day at 4:15. Around 20 girls. Did a pretty one with a pleasing personality. Will hopefully get the other one I wanted on Monday.
FYI New Life Halloween Party October 28th on Saturday.
First time to either one of those in 2. 5 years. Quality down. Talked to a Colombian guy as we walked out who was raised in the USA he said the same thing. He mentioned how 10 years ago the girls were super hot back then.
No pregnant girls at Botero (FYI for those fetish guys to save you a trip). 4 girls now with boob jobs at Centro. Not huge jobs because they had little to start with. I know because I had sex with 3 of them. The 4th one I was not into 2 years ago when I first saw her. She was small last month but suddenly her body shape grabbed my attention. I checked out her body and then her face and realized who she was. Still not interested because one of her friends who also had a boob job was so bad I did not cum.
Getting bored of Centro in just 2. 5 months. Too many repeats. Not enough new girls. With the rainy season now it is boring the crap out of me and the rain has only been here for less than 2 weeks. Will move to Laureles for a week or two and try some spas and online girls. Pray for me.
LoveItHere
10-08-23, 05:00
So based on your estimate, are your saying that 5% of the gringos will drive the pricing so high in Centro for both locals and gringos, that the majority of the Centro girls will jump to Poblado.
The customers who pull in Pobaldo are not going to go with the majority of girls of work Centro as they not very desirable.
The "jump" of girls from Centro to Poblado has been taking place for several months now, and the quality is not all that great, and I doubt it can become any more saturated, especially with more fat and ugly girls from Centro.
Also, based on the majority of the clients being locals in Centro, my prediction is pricing won't change much in Centro except for inflation.
And also something you may not be aware of, but the locals do control pricing to a certain degree in Centro.
If you spend much time in Centro and observe how the locals interact with the girls, a lot of times a local will go up to a girl, and then after a short period of time will walk away.
Typically what has happened is that the local made a "offer" below what the SW wanted which typically a lot of the locals do with the SW's.
So the SW's are cognizant of how sensitive pricing can be, and if they all tried to ask for too much would have little to no business.
So the notion that there is going to be a mass exodus of the Centro girls to Poblado in the future is hard to imagine.
And as far as local and gringo pricing, believe it or not, there are gringos here that can and do get "local pricing" in Centro, but they have Spanish speaking skills.I always wanted to come back and correct all your errors on your post. But as soon as I start I have to stop. I just do not have that kind of time. So so much is wrong. You really have no idea what is happening right in front of your eyes. You take few girls and keep taking the same ones. I am a one and done type of guy so I am taking more girls and a larger variety of girls and am far more in touch with girls' asking prices, hotels, etc.
The girls keep asking for more and more money. I have had several ask for more money in the 2 months I have been in Centro taking the same girl. Met a blonde girl at the yellow corner restaurant asking 60,000 COP now. So the Colombians are causing this? No. It is because there are more and more 2 week millionaires. Paying Colombian prices is nothing on a 2 week trip. In the near future the Centro girls will only need ten 2 week millionaires per week to make the same as 30 locals and thus not need the Colombians except for emergency money. The majority or not moving their bodies and making their money in Poblado. They have a different method. Not brilliant. Just different. You have not figured this out. I know because you would have announced it to everyone trying to show your brilliance.
In 5 years Centro will be dead. I never meant all the girls will be gone in the post you are talking about. All that needs to happen in the top 20%. I know that once the top 20% are gone then nearly all the foreigners will also be gone. Fact is the quality in the clubs, spas / casas, and street are all down. Read the posts from the last year from all the different venues for getting girls. All the guys have the same comments about each and every venue. Nowhere has gotten better and nowhere has stayed the same. Centro has dropped 5% in numbers and quality. Another 5% in the next 1. 5 years and I will not be returning myself. Once the change happens it will accelerate. Everyone is talking about it. Even travel articles talking about the jump in tourism numbers to Colombia.
I wish you knew all that you think you do. Your talking about locals walking up to street girls and walking away telling me it is because the girls ask too much. Wow, a one hour old newbie can figure that out. But there are many reasons. He asked for kinky stuff and she said no. He got her Whatsapp to make a later date. He is a regular and just saying Hi and he will meet her tomorrow. She is used to gringo prices where she receives 10,000+ COP more. The guys do not control the prices. The girls do. The girls are especially learning this with the 2 week millionaires who have limited time and a large budget. The girls are learning quickly how to prioritize. 2 week millionaires are first, local gringos second, and then the local Colombians. Saw the same thing in the Philippines. There it was Koreans first and the rest of the foreigners second.
You are unable to connect the dots because you do not even see them all. I only gave a very small handful and I have only been here for 2 months and have been gone for 2 years.
I think your two-month pricing experience has more to do with you than it does with the market. I don't know you but I've spent a bit more than two months at a time in the area.
I always wanted to come back and correct all your errors on your post. But as soon as I start I have to stop. I just do not have that kind of time. So so much is wrong. You really have no idea what is happening right in front of your eyes. You take few girls and keep taking the same ones. I am a one and done type of guy so I am taking more girls and a larger variety of girls and am far more in touch with girls' asking prices, hotels, etc.
The girls keep asking for more and more money. I have had several ask for more money in the 2 months I have been in Centro taking the same girl. Met a blonde girl at the yellow corner restaurant asking 60,000 COP now. So the Colombians are causing this? No. It is because there are more and more 2 week millionaires. Paying Colombian prices is nothing on a 2 week trip. In the near future the Centro girls will only need ten 2 week millionaires per week to make the same as 30 locals and thus not need the Colombians except for emergency money. The majority or not moving their bodies and making their money in Poblado. They have a different method. Not brilliant. Just different. You have not figured this out. I know because you would have announced it to everyone trying to show your brilliance..
All the endless posts about paying after in almost every location in the world are crazy wrong. You are the brilliant one. Carryon paying first. If you want the very best service that will simply make your head spin. Pay her before you even leave the bar, disco, or restaurant where you found her. That will build killer trust!When you meet a girl in an establishment it seems best to confirm that payment would be made after rapture before you leave the place arm in arm.
The Tall Man
10-08-23, 17:22
I always wanted to come back and correct all your errors on your post. But as soon as I start I have to stop. I just do not have that kind of time. So so much is wrong. You really have no idea what is happening right in front of your eyes. You take few girls and keep taking the same ones. I am a one and done type of guy so I am taking more girls and a larger variety of girls and am far more in touch with girls' asking prices, hotels, etc.
The girls keep asking for more and more money. I have had several ask for more money in the 2 months I have been in Centro taking the same girl. Met a blonde girl at the yellow corner restaurant asking 60,000 COP now. So the Colombians are causing this? No. It is because there are more and more 2 week millionaires. Paying Colombian prices is nothing on a 2 week trip. In the near future the Centro girls will only need ten 2 week millionaires per week to make the same as 30 locals and thus not need the Colombians except for emergency money. The majority or not moving their bodies and making their money in Poblado. They have a different method. Not brilliant. Just different. You have not figured this out. I know because you would have announced it to everyone trying to show your brilliance.
In 5 years Centro will be dead. I never meant all the girls will be gone in the post you are talking about. All that needs to happen in the top 20%. I know that once the top 20% are gone then nearly all the foreigners will also be gone. Fact is the quality in the clubs, spas / casas, and street are all down. Read the posts from the last year from all the different venues for getting girls. All the guys have the same comments about each and every venue. Nowhere has gotten better and nowhere has stayed the same. Centro has dropped 5% in numbers and quality. Another 5% in the next 1. 5 years and I will not be returning myself. Once the change happens it will accelerate. Everyone is talking about it. Even travel articles talking about the jump in tourism numbers to Colombia.
I wish you knew all that you think you do. Your talking about locals walking up to street girls and walking away telling me it is because the girls ask too much. Wow, a one hour old newbie can figure that out. But there are many reasons. He asked for kinky stuff and she said no. He got her Whatsapp to make a later date. He is a regular and just saying Hi and he will meet her tomorrow. She is used to gringo prices where she receives 10,000+ COP more. The guys do not control the prices. The girls do. The girls are especially learning this with the 2 week millionaires who have limited time and a large budget. The girls are learning quickly how to prioritize. 2 week millionaires are first, local gringos second, and then the local Colombians. Saw the same thing in the Philippines. There it was Koreans first and the rest of the foreigners second.
You are unable to connect the dots because you do not even see them all. I only gave a very small handful and I have only been here for 2 months and have been gone for 2 years.I and my wing-man (a Colombian friend) stopped in Avineda Grill (in centro across the street from Botero plaza) yesterday late afternoon / early evening (Saturday 7 PM) and although it was busy with lots of guys enjoying their drinks and many of girls IT WAS THE WORST QUALITY I HAVE SEEN IN 6 YEARS frequenting this club.
The good day are gone, now you have to hunt and hunt to find a decent no scam quality session.
TTM.
I always wanted to come back and correct all your errors on your post. But as soon as I start I have to stop. I just do not have that kind of time. So so much is wrong. You really have no idea what is happening right in front of your eyes. You take few girls and keep taking the same ones. I am a one and done type of guy so I am taking more girls and a larger variety of girls and am far more in touch with girls' asking prices, hotels, etc.
The girls keep asking for more and more money. I have had several ask for more money in the 2 months I have been in Centro taking the same girl. Met a blonde girl at the yellow corner restaurant asking 60,000 COP now. So the Colombians are causing this? No. It is because there are more and more 2 week millionaires. Paying Colombian prices is nothing on a 2 week trip. In the near future the Centro girls will only need ten 2 week millionaires per week to make the same as 30 locals and thus not need the Colombians except for emergency money. The majority or not moving their bodies and making their money in Poblado. They have a different method. Not brilliant. Just different. You have not figured this out. I know because you would have announced it to everyone trying to show your brilliance.
In 5 years Centro will be dead. I never meant all the girls will be gone in the post you are talking about. All that needs to happen in the top 20%. I know that once the top 20% are gone then nearly all the foreigners will also be gone. Fact is the quality in the clubs, spas / casas, and street are all down. Read the posts from the last year from all the different venues for getting girls. All the guys have the same comments about each and every venue. Nowhere has gotten better and nowhere has stayed the same. Centro has dropped 5% in numbers and quality. Another 5% in the next 1. 5 years and I will not be returning myself. Once the change happens it will accelerate. Everyone is talking about it. Even travel articles talking about the jump in tourism numbers to Colombia.
I wish you knew all that you think you do. Your talking about locals walking up to street girls and walking away telling me it is because the girls ask too much. Wow, a one hour old newbie can figure that out. But there are many reasons. He asked for kinky stuff and she said no. He got her Whatsapp to make a later date. He is a regular and just saying Hi and he will meet her tomorrow. She is used to gringo prices where she receives 10,000+ COP more. The guys do not control the prices. The girls do. The girls are especially learning this with the 2 week millionaires who have limited time and a large budget. The girls are learning quickly how to prioritize. 2 week millionaires are first, local gringos second, and then the local Colombians. Saw the same thing in the Philippines. There it was Koreans first and the rest of the foreigners second.
You are unable to connect the dots because you do not even see them all. I only gave a very small handful and I have only been here for 2 months and have been gone for 2 years.I've had SGs in Centro quote me 60 mil recently and I always counter with "siempre pago cuarenta mil más la pieza" And 9 times out of 10 they will accept that, very rarely they will counter with 50 mil and even more rarely they won't budge to which I just like "no joda" and move on to the next one.
I suspect the reason they are charging you more is because you are an obvious gringo. Can you even properly pronounce "cuarenta mil"?
I think your two-month pricing experience has more to do with you than it does with the market. I don't know you but I've spent a bit more than two months at a time in the area.Unless you are like him who stays in Centro. Your two months will be different from his.
The problem with the 5% Surfer mentioned does not consider other possibilities. I am making up the numbers as one possibility. Every girl has 20 customers, 1 is gringo so now basically all girls are affected. It's not about that they can really make more, but is how they are being stimulated by money that changes the girl's attitude.
Unless you are like him who stays in Centro. Your two months will be different from his.
The problem with the 5% Surfer mentioned does not consider other possibilities. I am making up the numbers as one possibility. Every girl has 20 customers, 1 is gringo so now basically all girls are affected. It's not about that they can really make more, but is how they are being stimulated by money that changes the girl's attitude.This illustrates my point, if only 5% of the mongers in Centro are foreigners, there's no way those 5% are going to affect the market for the locals, who make up 95% of the clients and are not quoted "gringo pricing".
And the thought that the gringos will drive out the locals over time in Centro that was floated is ridiculous as the numbers don't support it.
And believe it or not, there are foreigners here that do get local pricing contrary to what some may think.
Foreign mongers in Centro are very low in numbers, where as in, and around LLeras, it's the opposite, with the mongers being literally all foreigners, hence the ridiculous pricing every one is reporting.
I see the pricing increases in Centro being pretty much inflation driven, versus in the Lleras area being driven by foreigners and the girls savy enough to take advantage of them.
This is the distinction here, Centro and the Lleras area for mongering are very different, however some don't get the distinction here.
Mr Enternational
10-09-23, 06:39
I bought a Claro SIM the other day in Leticia. It was 10,000 pesos. I asked the guy about registration and it being locked after a while and he told me it would not happen. Guess I will find out for sure next time.So the end of July I bought my Claro SIM from a bootleg place in Leticia. I came back to Colombia the other day (2 months later) and my SIM worked fine. To double check, I went to the Claro store at the mall.
I told the lady there my situation and that I wanted to register so my SIM would not be blocked. She said there was no need to do anything and that it would not be blocked. She said but the only way to register would be to use a Colombian's ID. She asked if I wanted the girl I was with to do it. I said well if there is no need to then no.
She said I could go over to the cashier to pay for more credit so that I could add internet. I told the cashier that I only needed internet for 2 days. She said the 3,500 peso plan would do me good. She had a list of all the prepay plans on the wall next to her. I asked if she had a copy and she said no. I gave her my phone and asked her to take a picture of it for me. Looks like the most expensive plan is 41,000 pesos for 12 GB over 30 days. So if someone is telling you to pay more than that, then you know they are ripping you off.
That plan she gave me was only 400 MB. Man I ran out of internet before I even got in the Indriver 1 hour later. Well when I was in the Indriver it said 80% data used.
I tried to add more money to my account through my phone with 2 different credit cards but it would not take. I ended up going to a site where you can add credit (mobilerecharge) and added like $5. Then I was able to choose a better internet plan (7 day 2 GB) from the Claro site.
I certainly agree girls will ask foreigners they don't know, or who they believe many not know better, for unreasonable amounts of money.
Unless you are like him who stays in Centro. Your two months will be different from his.
The problem with the 5% Surfer mentioned does not consider other possibilities. I am making up the numbers as one possibility. Every girl has 20 customers, 1 is gringo so now basically all girls are affected. It's not about that they can really make more, but is how they are being stimulated by money that changes the girl's attitude.
Zandaly has not been the same since it parted ways with Cata just after the pandemic. Cata's place Aventura is better but she told me she struggles to keep a good staff rotation because girls don't want to complete their shifts and prefer the freedom of fishing for clients on the Internet. Aventura is in Chagualo so it's not as convenient or comfortable for foreigners and short term visitors but it's not hard to reach since it's right on the Metroplus stop. These days Amigas Sexxy is I think in second place among Centro casas of gringo interest. Aiffe is as always very unreliable and hasn't made any noticeable facility improvements in the 15 years I've been going there. I avoid New Life. When I was last there about 6 months ago with a bunch of weekend warrior friends I realized the frat house atmosphere has not changed.
Went to Zandalay Saturday 3:45.9 girls. None were worth a crap. That place is stupid. I walk in. 3 guys and 4 girls at the bar drinking and talking. I buy a drink and sit down at the bench seat alone. 5 minutes later another guy comes in and sits alone across from me at another bench seat. I wait another 10 minutes. During that time a group of 3 guys come up the stairs, look around, and quickly leave. The people working there are too damn stupid to tell the 3 guys to sit down and they will bring out the rest of the girls. The people working there seem to think it is a bar and not a brothel. I have to ask the worker there to show me the girls. The girls introduce themselves and I pay and leave. Coke cost me 6000 COP there versus 3000 COP at the much better New Life.
New Life same day at 4:15. Around 20 girls. Did a pretty one with a pleasing personality. Will hopefully get the other one I wanted on Monday.
FYI New Life Halloween Party October 28th on Saturday.
First time to either one of those in 2. 5 years. Quality down. Talked to a Colombian guy as we walked out who was raised in the USA he said the same thing. He mentioned how 10 years ago the girls were super hot back then.
No pregnant girls at Botero (FYI for those fetish guys to save you a trip). 4 girls now with boob jobs at Centro. Not huge jobs because they had little to start with. I know because I had sex with 3 of them. The 4th one I was not into 2 years ago when I first saw her. She was small last month but suddenly her body shape grabbed my attention. I checked out her body and then her face and realized who she was. Still not interested because one of her friends who also had a boob job was so bad I did not cum.
Getting bored of Centro in just 2. 5 months. Too many repeats. Not enough new girls. With the rainy season now it is boring the crap out of me and the rain has only been here for less than 2 weeks. Will move to Laureles for a week or two and try some spas and online girls. Pray for me.
I've had SGs in Centro quote me 60 mil recently and I always counter with "siempre pago cuarenta mil ms la pieza" And 9 times out of 10 they will accept that, very rarely they will counter with 50 mil and even more rarely they won't budge to which I just like "no joda" and move on to the next one.
I suspect the reason they are charging you more is because you are an obvious gringo. Can you even properly pronounce "cuarenta mil"?There are foreigners here who pay local prices, and I have as well, and I am an obvious gringo as soon as I start speaking.
What your post illustrates is that a foreigner who knows the market in Centro, and speaks a fair amount of Spanish, along with having some game, can get local pricing, as it seems like a lot of the gringos in Centro just can't seem to navigate the terrain there, and the smarter SW's take advantage of them and hence cannot get local pricing.
You stated that 9 times out of 10 the SW's accept your price, which makes perfect sense, as to why would a SW turn you away if you illustrate your knowledge of the market, as you are no different than their client base which I estimate to be at least 95% locals.
RamDavidson84
10-09-23, 20:47
Ram that is good advice and I appreciate it, however I am sure i agree with if u take a girl back to your place, you have to pay her however to your point, I alway say never get into an argument with a Chica, so I will also pay something to get her ass to leave.
It was a huge amount and that was an additional fuck up on my part-in any case I have a few more days to try to talk to said security guard and explain why I gave him so much money. I can't remember the last time I had a problem with a Chica as I usually screen them well but this time I was caught off guard with a Chica I would normally never give the time of day, again my mistake. As for warning them that you never pay of front, what if she lies and then demand payment up front? The problem is that most of these Chicas understand that the majority of gringos fear the Colombian polce and oftentimes use that to their advantage.
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One last word about paying upfront, that sets a terrible precedent so please refrain from doing so, if a Chica demands payment upfront, you can show her you have the money to pay her and if she still refuses, show her ass the door. Hopefully you won't have to deal with the BS I encountered. She's lucky we weren't at a love motel, I would I simply paid the hotel and left her ass there. Some of you mongers have allowed these putas to take complete control of the mongering scene here in Medellin, basic and borderline ugly putas are asking 250 USD.Just to clarify a bit more, I was referring to taking girls out of Gustos or a high end place in Medellin. If you pull a girl out of Gustos and take her back to your rental and get her naked and then she starts trouble because you want to pay her afterward, that is something I wouldn't recommend. I especially wouldn't recommend it if you want to avoid the police or trouble. I have heard of first hand accounts of girls pulling knives and pepper spraying people over situations like this. Discuss it with the girl up front if you want to pay after, but you should probably expect a Gusto girl to flip her shit if you get her naked and then refuse her payment if she wants it before you fuck. Colombian women can go from normal to pyscho in a split second, especially if they are getting turned down to fuck because they are over the hill and this was their main form of income.
As for paying your way out of a sticky situation, I agree 100%, 125 $ to not end of in Colombian prison is well worth it. If that 125 $ to the security guard is what it took to stay out of trouble then I understand, but I was saying if you just threw him 125 for being a good dude, then that tip is too much.
Now a street walker centro girl may be different from a Gusto chica, but if a girl thinks she's getting 125 $ and then gets shot down, well be ready for drama. Always save that drama for your mama Carrib!
This illustrates my point, if only 5% of the mongers in Centro are foreigners, there's no way those 5% are going to affect the market for the locals, who make up 95% of the clients and are not quoted "gringo pricing".
And the thought that the gringos will drive out the locals over time in Centro that was floated is ridiculous as the numbers don't support it.
And believe it or not, there are foreigners here that do get local pricing contrary to what some may think.
Foreign mongers in Centro are very low in numbers, where as in, and around LLeras, it's the opposite, with the mongers being literally all foreigners, hence the ridiculous pricing every one is reporting.
I see the pricing increases in Centro being pretty much inflation driven, versus in the Lleras area being driven by foreigners and the girls savy enough to take advantage of them.
This is the distinction here, Centro and the Lleras area for mongering are very different, however some don't get the distinction here.The point that was made is not that gringos will affect Centro rates, but that more and more Centro girls, cream of the crop, will work in Poblado and / or online, where they can get much more money. Centro uglies will stay in Centro, and will serve locals and get local rates.
There was a discussion recently about Centro girls working Centro during the day, and Lleras during the night. Those girls who work both locations, will probably stick to Lleras only and then transition to online, or higher end venues. Working both locations is not sustainable, because what's the point? If you, lets say, flip burgers during the day, and get paid X pesos, and do exact same work at night and get paid 10 X pesos, sooner or later you will start picking only night shifts.
The point that was made is not that gringos will affect Centro rates, but that more and more Centro girls, cream of the crop, will work in Poblado and / or online, where they can get much more money. Centro uglies will stay in Centro, and will serve locals and get local rates.
There was a discussion recently about Centro girls working Centro during the day, and Lleras during the night. Those girls who work both locations, will probably stick to Lleras only and then transition to online, or higher end venues. Working both locations is not sustainable, because what's the point? If you, lets say, flip burgers during the day, and get paid X pesos, and do exact same work at night and get paid 10 X pesos, sooner or later you will start picking only night shifts.The problem with that is the income is unpredictable. A girl working El Centro is almost certain to get enough customers to make money, and with the metro and buses, transportation is cheap.
However, going to Lleras, there's a fair chance she won't get a customer every night, and by the time she finishes she'll need to get a taxi. Most of them have no cash reserve, so getting stuck in Lleras is a real risk.
For girls who think, save and plan, then a transition to Lleras is a possibility. For the majority, it's something they'll do occasionally, when they have friends with them and someone has enough money to get back home.
Eustisflman
10-10-23, 02:32
Late report from Labor day.
Back from MDE and spend 5 days in an Airbnb 2 streets over from Energy Living building. Meet with all my girls from Seeking. I use this here in States and all my travels (CR, Peru, Ecuador, Nica, Canada. Etc). 300 k was what I paid for 6 different girls and 1 for 400 k. All of them spent several hours with me out in the city then a few hours or overnight at my place. Most of them I fucked 2 times, all were under 28 and skinny little hotties.
Wtf is up with online? I messaged a bunch of girls most don't respond. When they do respond they respond I try to confirm the time or the place they don't respond.
I had two girls tell me send me the money for the taxi and I'm like no I will send you the Uber paid. They either don't respond or charge me 60 k for taxis. I live right next to this girl BTW. I legit went to her spot for another girl and it was 7 k from my spot.
I went to see the only girl that would actually confirm that I could go there and they bait and switch me with another girl. And then they do the usual o sorry she's not here she's doing a domicilio I can show you the only other girl that is here I'm like whatever this better be the hottest girl I've ever seen because I'm not tolerating this garbageass service. Girl is also ugly. That's why they're don't get picked. Hire better girls. So I leave.
Wtf is happening? Can I get a decent girl to show up and or respond? Wtf.
The most impact gringos have on pricing is the price they pay individually. You are quite right that there are not enough gringos, especially not in Centro, to move the market. There are micro markets that are gringo dominated (e. G. The Mansion / Gringo Inn, Parque Lleras) where gringos are in the majority. Those are exceptional situations. The going rate in Centro is 30,000 to 40,000. I have a select few regulars I bring home from time to time. I give them 50 K. I covered casas in an earlier post. Those prices are not gringo driven either for the same reason as the street rates are not. You can tip your way to higher prices or pay for an hour and get the same one pop you would get for the cost of half an hour but again, that's only going to affect the guy in the room not everybody else. Apologies for the boring post. I just stuck to the facts.
There are foreigners here who pay local prices, and I have as well, and I am an obvious gringo as soon as I start speaking.
What your post illustrates is that a foreigner who knows the market in Centro, and speaks a fair amount of Spanish, along with having some game, can get local pricing, as it seems like a lot of the gringos in Centro just can't seem to navigate the terrain there, and the smarter SW's take advantage of them and hence cannot get local pricing.
You stated that 9 times out of 10 the SW's accept your price, which makes perfect sense, as to why would a SW turn you away if you illustrate your knowledge of the market, as you are no different than their client base which I estimate to be at least 95% locals.
You don't need a Colombian cedula to register your phone. I registered several phones for years before I had my first cedula. You can do it from the phone itself on the Claro app or on the Claro web site. You have to set up an online account first by establishing a user ID and password.
So the end of July I bought my Claro SIM from a bootleg place in Leticia. I came back to Colombia the other day (2 months later) and my SIM worked fine. To double check, I went to the Claro store at the mall.
I told the lady there my situation and that I wanted to register so my SIM would not be blocked. She said there was no need to do anything and that it would not be blocked. She said but the only way to register would be to use a Colombian's ID. She asked if I wanted the girl I was with to do it. I said well if there is no need to then no.
She said I could go over to the cashier to pay for more credit so that I could add internet. I told the cashier that I only needed internet for 2 days. She said the 3,500 peso plan would do me good. She had a list of all the prepay plans on the wall next to her. I asked if she had a copy and she said no. I gave her my phone and asked her to take a picture of it for me. Looks like the most expensive plan is 41,000 pesos for 12 GB over 30 days. So if someone is telling you to pay more than that, then you know they are ripping you off.
That plan she gave me was only 400 MB. Man I ran out of internet before I even got in the Indriver 1 hour later. Well when I was in the Indriver it said 80% data used.
I tried to add more money to my account through my phone with 2 different credit cards but it would not take. I ended up going to a site where you can add credit (mobilerecharge) and added like $5. Then I was able to choose a better internet plan (7 day 2 GB) from the Claro site.
When all hope is lost la isla has your back. Even tho it's 550 k for the room and the girl and 50 k cover and a bunch of 2 k,s to get the strippers of your back it was worth it today. Went with a girl that had a big ass. Doesn't do oral. Should a told me that before going in. She'll do oral for the right guy trust. She doesn't do something? She actually means she just doesn't do it for you.
There were other girls I would have done. But the one I went with had the complete package. It's like some have a nice face but no body. Some have a nice booty but ugly face.
After messaging so many girls and getting ghost 24/7 I had to go to lleras. There was no one there. Lleras street girls are truly the worst of the crop. Went to gustos. There was only 2 girls. The rest of the club is empty.
Went to la isla. Empty. But girls are there. 2 groups of guys. Some girls I would do but they don't justify 125 usd. Except for the one I went with. If they can get all the girls like her I would go more. But I saw girls with no curves. An actual stick in a dress. Thst girl doesn't justify550 k cop. At least I can find 3 girls on any given day.
Lesson learned today: don't talk to online girls past 7.
Tried seeking. Actually bought a membership. Girls that are hot don't message back (I've only been on for a day). Girls that do message back are ugly. Some gave their WhatsApp. Haven't talked prices yet. I have one girl I'm meeting at Thursday at la matriarca. Let's see how that goes. She semi hot like 7 I guess. Let see. I have other girls messaging me what are you looking for in the app and blocking me if they don't like my answer. I don't really know how to handle that question.
GeorgeCarta22
10-10-23, 07:11
When all hope is lost la isla has your back. Even tho it's 550 k for the room and the girl and 50 k cover and a bunch of 2 k,s to get the strippers of your back it was worth it today. Went with a girl that had a big ass. Doesn't do oral. Should a told me that before going in. She'll do oral for the right guy trust. She doesn't do something? She actually means she just doesn't do it for you.
There were other girls I would have done. But the one I went with had the complete package. It's like some have a nice face but no body. Some have a nice booty but ugly face.
After messaging so many girls and getting ghost 24/7 I had to go to lleras. There was no one there. Lleras street girls are truly the worst of the crop. Went to gustos. There was only 2 girls. The rest of the club is empty.
Went to la isla. Empty. But girls are there. 2 groups of guys. Some girls I would do but they don't justify 125 usd. Except for the one I went with. If they can get all the girls like her I would go more. But I saw girls with no curves. An actual stick in a dress. Thst girl doesn't justify550 k cop. At least I can find 3 girls on any given day.
Lesson learned today: don't talk to online girls past 7.
Tried seeking. Actually bought a membership. Girls that are hot don't message back (I've only been on for a day). Girls that do message back are ugly. Some gave their WhatsApp. Haven't talked prices yet. I have one girl I'm meeting at Thursday at la matriarca. Let's see how that goes. She semi hot like 7 I guess. Let see. I have other girls messaging me what are you looking for in the app and blocking me if they don't like my answer. I don't really know how to handle that question.I've been following this forum for quite some time leading up to my trip and this has me pretty bummed out.
I've been wanting to just get a GF type for my couple days in medellin and seems like situation is pretty rough.
The last 50 pages of this sub I pretty much gathered.
- do facebook research connections before you go.
- tinder girls could be ok more potential for scolp.
- la isla is good for a quickie but over priced.
- loutron is hit or miss.
- parque lleras girls are mostly sub 7.
- and just never go to gustos.
- photo prepago? (not sure).
Is this basically the summary of medellin's current situation?
LoveItHere
10-10-23, 16:59
I found a Centro pregnant girl. She was holding a folder with a baby on it. I asked if she was pregnant and she said no it was negative. I told her if it was negative she would have thrown the paperwork away. Then said it was her friends and I asked why she was carrying it up to my room. She admitted she did not want anyone to know so I can not tell. She is only 1+ month in because nothing is showing except her boobs were really hard. I could tell you guys but half of you would walk up to her and ask, "Which one of you is the pregnant one?
I and my wing-man (a Colombian friend) stopped in Avineda Grill (in centro across the street from Botero plaza) yesterday late afternoon / early evening (Saturday 7 PM) and although it was busy with lots of guys enjoying their drinks and many of girls IT WAS THE WORST QUALITY I HAVE SEEN IN 6 YEARS frequenting this club.
TTM.You would have cried if you were out on Monday. It was like a holiday or Sunday bad. But there were less people everywhere, but no idea why.
I suspect the reason they are charging you more is because you are an obvious gringo. Can you even properly pronounce "cuarenta mil"?20+ girls remember me from 2 years ago when I never had these problems. I did not sex all 20 but they knew I was not a newbie and tell their friends. I have had 7 girls I had sex with in the 2+ months I have been here try to raise prices. I have stated many times I do not know Spanish so I can not pronounce that in any way shape or form. These girls see me every single day and sometimes for hours when I sit and watch the world go by.
I also have experience in Santa Marta (week), Bogota (month), Barranquilla (2 months), Pereira (month), Cucuta (month).
And the thought that the gringos will drive out the locals over time in Centro that was floated is ridiculous as the numbers don't support it.
And believe it or not, there are foreigners here that do get local pricing contrary to what some may think.
This is the distinction here, Centro and the Lleras area for mongering are very different, however some don't get the distinction here.I have clearly stated that the locals will not be run out. But the top 20% of the girls will be taken away to Poblado, FB, websites, Western Union. The girls are learning but you are not. Street girls could never afford to get a boob job. Yet I know 3 recently. One in the last 2 years. One last month that went from nothing to something and the last one still had her bandages on when I did her 3 weeks ago. Where did that money come from?
Guys lie just as much as the girls. The Russian guy brags that he gets the cheapest everything he buys. The guys I have heard brag the most about getting local prices are screwing some less than stellar girls and are doing them repeatedly. That does not work for the 2-3 week tourist or me who likes constant new girls. I know several of these girls but most I have no interest in or already been with.
To give you an idea of what things you learn when you spend as much time down here as I do. Two years ago the drug dealers hide their stuff with the carts in the park. The carts were removed and when I left the drug dealers were hidding their stuff on the girls (usually around their waist) since the girls were not checked by the police like the gys were. I come back and the drug dealers on the side of the church alleyway now hide their stuff at the side entrances to the church on the ground and put garbage or a rock in front of it. Once saw them hide it behind the sign on the door. But the number one place is that little section of dirt with a little grass. There is a dead tree there that looks like a yard tall spike in the ground. They simply hide it under the 7" grass that has fallen over. Do not believe me. Go search under that grass a few times and see how long it takes for one of the drug guys to come running.
In the past guys asked if there is air conditioning in any of the ST hotels but nobody ever answers that I have read and you know everything. There was one when I left 2 years ago. In fact I had to ask them to turn it off because I was freezing. Not sure if they still have them because I have not returned to that one. But this trip there are 2 other hotels that have air conditioning on Carrera 53 (bar street). One on each side of the street at the mid-way point. I know because I had a girl in one and I could feel the cold air coming down the steps of the other one.
Curious. I am pretty sure you are not here now but were 2 weeks ago. If I walked past you in Centro could you identify me? Because I am 90% sure I can identify you. You talk to everybody while I try to avoid most foreigners so this should be easy for you.
Aventura is in Chagualo so it's not as convenient or comfortable for foreigners and short term visitors but it's not hard to reach since it's right on the Metroplus stop. These days Amigas Sexxy is I think in second place among Centro casas of gringo interest. I avoid New Life. When I was last there about 6 months ago with a bunch of weekend warrior friends I realized the frat house atmosphere has not changed.I had a New Life girl Saturday and wanted another girl next visit. The front office girl said come Monday so I did at 2:30. Not there. Asked what day and time the girl normally comes in. The front office girl had no idea. The place was dead except for 3 black guys in the cubicle drinking like it was a bar.
Then tried to meet a girl off the prepagos site but her map was 3 times farther than the one shown on the website which was only 7 blocks away near San Antonio Station that I walk past nearly every week. I cancelled.
The problem with that is the income is unpredictable. A girl working El Centro is almost certain to get enough customers to make money, and with the metro and buses, transportation is cheap.
However, going to Lleras, there's a fair chance she won't get a customer every night, and by the time she finishes she'll need to get a taxi. Most of them have no cash reserve, so getting stuck in Lleras is a real risk.
For girls who think, save and plan, then a transition to Lleras is a possibility. For the majority, it's something they'll do occasionally, when they have friends with them and someone has enough money to get back home.I'm not buying your argument about the taxi money. If a girl is decent looking (and she has to be in order to work Lleras and command gringo rates) she will have no problem getting at least 1 client per shift at 250-300 mil cop. If she is ugly or below average looking, she is at risk and better be sticking to her local clientele in Centro.
And the taxi money is not that much compared to what they can charge a gringo. I doubt it is more than 20-25 mil late at night, even if she lives far away. She can share the ride with another hoe and pay even less. If a girl can't get a customer, she can always lower her rate and get one, and still make enough to cover all her expenses, including taxi.
Mr Enternational
10-10-23, 17:58
Let see. I have other girls messaging me what are you looking for in the app and blocking me if they don't like my answer. I don't really know how to handle that question.My top three answers are: 1 It depends on the woman. 2 I want what you want. 3 What are you offering?
The exchange rate is back good again. I just went to Davivienda this morning and I was able to pull out $430 mil COP and I was charged $98.02 usd on my Capital One 360 checking account. And as always remember to decline the exchange rate that the ATM offers you as that is just throwing away money if you accept it.
Gabacho.
Mr Enternational
10-10-23, 18:11
You don't need a Colombian cedula to register your phone. I registered several phones for years before I had my first cedula. You can do it from the phone itself on the Claro app or on the Claro web site. You have to set up an online account first by establishing a user ID and password.Tried that. It said my passport number was fake!
I found a Centro pregnant girl. She was holding a folder with a baby on it. I asked if she was pregnant and she said no it was negative. I told her if it was negative she would have thrown the paperwork away. Then said it was her friends and I asked why she was carrying it up to my room. She admitted she did not want anyone to know so I can not tell. She is only 1+ month in because nothing is showing except her boobs were really hard. I could tell you guys but half of you would walk up to her and ask, "Which one of you is the pregnant one?
You would have cried if you were out on Monday. It was like a holiday or Sunday bad. But there were less people everywhere, but no idea why.
20+ girls remember me from 2 years ago when I never had these problems. I did not sex all 20 but they knew I was not a newbie and tell their friends. I have had 7 girls I had sex with in the 2+ months I have been here try to raise prices. I have stated many times I do not know Spanish so I can not pronounce that in any way shape or form. These girls see me every single day and sometimes for hours when I sit and watch the world go by.
I also have experience in Santa Marta (week), Bogota (month), Barranquilla (2 months), Pereira (month), Cucuta (month).
I have clearly stated that the locals will not be run out. But the top 20% of the girls will be taken away to Poblado, FB, websites, Western Union. The girls are learning but you are not. Street girls could never afford to get a boob job. Yet I know 3 recently. One in the last 2 years. One last month that went from nothing to something and the last one still had her bandages on when I did her 3 weeks ago. Where did that money come from?
Guys lie just as much as the girls. The Russian guy brags that he gets the cheapest everything he buys. The guys I have heard brag the most about getting local prices are screwing some less than stellar girls and are doing them repeatedly. That does not work for the 2-3 week tourist or me who likes constant new girls. I know several of these girls but most I have no interest in or already been with.
To give you an idea of what things you learn when you spend as much time down here as I do. Two years ago the drug dealers hide their stuff with the carts in the park. The carts were removed and when I left the drug dealers were hidding their stuff on the girls (usually around their waist) since the girls were not checked by the police like the gys were. I come back and the drug dealers on the side of the church alleyway now hide their stuff at the side entrances to the church on the ground and put garbage or a rock in front of it. Once saw them hide it behind the sign on the door. But the number one place is that little section of dirt with a little grass. There is a dead tree there that looks like a yard tall spike in the ground. They simply hide it under the 7" grass that has fallen over. Do not believe me. Go search under that grass a few times and see how long it takes for one of the drug guys to come running.
In the past guys asked if there is air conditioning in any of the ST hotels but nobody ever answers that I have read and you know everything. There was one when I left 2 years ago. In fact I had to ask them to turn it off because I was freezing. Not sure if they still have them because I have not returned to that one. But this trip there are 2 other hotels that have air conditioning on Carrera 53 (bar street). One on each side of the street at the mid-way point. I know because I had a girl in one and I could feel the cold air coming down the steps of the other one.
Curious. I am pretty sure you are not here now but were 2 weeks ago. If I walked past you in Centro could you identify me? Because I am 90% sure I can identify you. You talk to everybody while I try to avoid most foreigners so this should be easy for you.
I had a New Life girl Saturday and wanted another girl next visit. The front office girl said come Monday so I did at 2:30. Not there. Asked what day and time the girl normally comes in. The front office girl had no idea. The place was dead except for 3 black guys in the cubicle drinking like it was a bar.
Then tried to meet a girl off the prepagos site but her map was 3 times farther than the one shown on the website which was only 7 blocks away near San Antonio Station that I walk past nearly every week. I cancelled.I was never doubting your experience or saying anything about which cities you have been to and / or how many times you have been there. What I said is that you're an obvious gringo, and you just confirmed that by admitting that you don't speak any Spanish and cannot say 40,000 in Spanish. Therein lies the problem, not the fact that you are inexperienced but the fact that you are not making an effort to learn the language and the culture and become immersed in it.
The moment you open your mouth the girls know you are not from here. They know that guys who aren't from here are not necessarily going to know the going rates, whether or not payment is beforehand or afterwards, or the level of quality or amount of time that the "rato" is supposed to be.
You know it truly astonishes me how many of you guys come here and or other parts of Latin America without even attempting to learn Español. I've been learning Spanish since atleast 2010 and I wanted to learn it, I want to be able to communicate with the women I am fucking, I want to understand what a passerby on the street is telling me, I want to be able to ask where the q-tips are at in exito. I don't want to be that dumbass who has to pull out his phone to use Google translate to talk to the girls or have to point at pictures on a menu to order a steak at a restaurant.
Why wouldn't you want to learn?? It will open up so many more opportunities and change the quality of your sessions in ways you probably cannot even comprehend. Pero bueno, keep doing it your way and paying your 60 k for crappy sessions with lousy vennies and bust out your iPhone mid session to look up the word volteate when you want to her flip over LOL.
Curious. I am pretty sure you are not here now but were 2 weeks ago. If I walked past you in Centro could you identify me? Because I am 90% sure I can identify you. You talk to everybody while I try to avoid most foreigners so this should be easy for you..Nope, I'm here in Medellin and have been since the first week of August.
And yesterday at 3 PM I met with one of my regulars at Hotel Deseo's so your guess that I'm not here is mistaken.
I was in room 111, and it had a mirror on the ceiling. LOL.
I have posted many times about the gringos in Centro, and that I don't engage with them in Centro except on a very rare occasion when a friend is there.
And it's interesting that you are 90% sure you can identify me.
I would think it would be either 0% or 100%.
I'm not an obvious gringo, I don't have blond hair or blue eyes, nor red hair, nor light colored skin, and have been told by other Colombians that appearance wise I can pass as a Colombian until I start to speak.
In my opinion the, majority of the gringos hanging around in Centro are a bunch of losers so hence I don't talk with them contrary to what you think I do when I'm there.
Simply put, I am in Centro to dump a load, and get out of dodge, I am not there to socialize with other gringos.
And as far as your question whether I could identify you in Centro, the answer is no.
We have never met, nor do I know anyone who knows you who has pointed you out to me, so why even ask such a question.
However, any time I walk by a gringo in Centro I don't know, I automatically consider them a loser whether it's correct or not.
Hopefully this clarifies things for you as to my whereabouts.
I've been following this forum for quite some time leading up to my trip and this has me pretty bummed out.
I've been wanting to just get a GF type for my couple days in medellin and seems like situation is pretty rough.
The last 50 pages of this sub I pretty much gathered.
- do facebook research connections before you go.
- tinder girls could be ok more potential for scolp.
- la isla is good for a quickie but over priced.
- loutron is hit or miss.
- parque lleras girls are mostly sub 7.
- and just never go to gustos.
- photo prepago? (not sure).
Is this basically the summary of medellin's current situation?Yep. Exactly. I would say on average the ugliest girls are prettier than other places I've been. And the best girls are the same as other places I've been but they charge more.
I think online you can find a few great looking girls for a reasonable price. Except for what happened to me yesterday. Idk what is happening girls I guess have so many clients they don't need to bother responding to you.
Tinder also kinda sucks unless you're white or black because then you get matched up with hottest pros. Because I look Hispanic all I get ugly normies wanting a relationship.
Tried that. It said my passport number was fake!With Claro I remember registering my on Huawei P30 and before that my LG V30 with my passport and it worked fine. But I now have been using Tigo for over a year and I recently bought a new phone a Xiaomi Redmi Note 12's and when I went to register it in the Mi Tigo app it didn't give me an option for registering with a passport. It only had options for cedula de ciudadania, cedula de extranjeria, and some shit called HTIN or something. Luckily I've been seeing alot of paisas lately and one that I'm close to let me use her cedula de ciudadania to register my phone and it worked like a charm on the first try.
Highflier1222
10-10-23, 22:55
Friends- I am heading out to Medellin (staying at El Poblado area), welcome any recommendations. Message here or DM!! Thank you!
Tried that. It said my passport number was fake!Don't know about this case, but sometimes the systems in Latin America require a prefix before the passport number to identify the country where the document was issued, for example USApassportnumber or even area code followed by a number.
My top three answers are: 1 It depends on the woman. 2 I want what you want. 3 What are you offering?You're a genius wtf?
The exchange rate is back good again. I just went to Davivienda this morning and I was able to pull out $430 mil COP and I was charged $98.02 usd on my Capital One 360 checking account. And as always remember to decline the exchange rate that the ATM offers you as that is just throwing away money if you accept it.
Gabacho.It's going back down. But I think we end the year at 4400.
ElSexoChino7
10-11-23, 03:30
When all hope is lost la isla has your back. Even tho it's 550 k for the room and the girl and 50 k cover and a bunch of 2 k,s to get the strippers of your back it was worth it today. Went with a girl that had a big ass. Doesn't do oral. Should a told me that before going in. She'll do oral for the right guy trust. She doesn't do something? She actually means she just doesn't do it for you.
There were other girls I would have done. But the one I went with had the complete package. It's like some have a nice face but no body. Some have a nice booty but ugly face.
After messaging so many girls and getting ghost 24/7 I had to go to lleras. There was no one there. Lleras street girls are truly the worst of the crop. Went to gustos. There was only 2 girls. The rest of the club is empty.
Went to la isla. Empty. But girls are there. 2 groups of guys. Some girls I would do but they don't justify 125 usd. Except for the one I went with. If they can get all the girls like her I would go more. But I saw girls with no curves. An actual stick in a dress. Thst girl doesn't justify550 k cop. At least I can find 3 girls on any given day.
Lesson learned today: don't talk to online girls past 7.
Tried seeking. Actually bought a membership. Girls that are hot don't message back (I've only been on for a day). Girls that do message back are ugly. Some gave their WhatsApp. Haven't talked prices yet. I have one girl I'm meeting at Thursday at la matriarca. Let's see how that goes. She semi hot like 7 I guess. Let see. I have other girls messaging me what are you looking for in the app and blocking me if they don't like my answer. I don't really know how to handle that question.Go to la Isla after midnight, the later the better. That's when the good looking girls pops out. If they do, hopefully not all of them are silicone dolls. But you'll still find some natural girls mixed in. Anytime before midnight is a no go, especially on weekdays which is mostly no action. Weekends will be more girls and better quality. At least this was my experience from my last trip March. Did you get any success from getting the la isla's girls Whatsapp and just hitting them up later and doing domicilio?
I would avoid gusto's at all. Why'all never learned your lessons. Girls there will stick to their 'unionized' $300 USD price LOL. Either you pay that price with a mediocre service and no guarantee if it's even going to be worth it or just moved on. I would not even waste my time of stepping my foot back at that place LOL.
I was able to get 20+ Whatsapp from seeking. Now that my membership expires, the hot girls that I messaged last month finally decided to reply, but I need to renew my membership so I can read their messages. Not sure, if I would do that, but I will test the waters first to see how many will NOT flake on those 20+ contacts LOL. Always plan a back up. I still got girls lined up if they do flake. I'll be there in 2 weeks to see my regular girls and hopefully some new faces.
https://www.tiktok.com/@vero_gedler?_t=8gPVvCsQWr4&_r=1
I'm trying to know where they are from. I met one like her in punta Cana I can't get over her LOL. I've met some here in Medellin. One is from neiva a can girl in Cali. Another is from Cordova Colombia. 2 more are from Cali. I the one in the TikTok is from Venezuela but idk what part. I guess there is no set place where you will find girls of this type. Olive skin. Black hair. Skinny. Boobs optional.
MongerHunger
10-11-23, 05:13
I have other girls messaging me what are you looking for in the app and blocking me if they don't like my answer. I don't really know how to handle that question.Please let us know how you answered these chicks so we can have a good laugh. LOL.
LoveItHere
10-11-23, 06:23
Went to New Life today to try a new girl. Tried a thin black girl. Horrible. Maybe she wanted one of the two black guys that walked in as we were going up the stairs, does not like short guys, or does not like white guys. Got into the room and I was halfway undressed and she was just sitting there so I motioned to take her clothes off. She does not want me to use my condom but hers instead. It did not fit so had to go to mine. I start to suck on her boobs and she is staring at the ceiling so I go to doggie. I am getting hot so I go to turn on the fan and she bitches. I go to add more lube and she bitches. Her name Tatiana. Maybe it was just me. Just putting the warning out there.
Centro pretty dead today again and 2 bars closed today that never happens on a Tuesday. No holidays. What's going on?
It's going back down. But I think we end the year at 4400.4500 is like the sweet spot. Of course 5000 was nice while it lasted but the prices started rising on food and shit which took away from the value of the better rate. So when it hovers around 4500 is when we're still getting a good value and prices are at less of a risk to rise.
I recommend you bring the phone with the SIM card in it and your passport to a Claro dealer or sales office. One of their mall locations will be less hectic than going through their dealers around Centro. They will be able to assist you further. If you haven't already established an online account and associated your cell phone number to it that might be part of the problem. If document types other than passport are offered you can try one of those with your passport number. That may be a workaround if the web site only accepts Colombian passport numbers (two letters followed by five digits). Every time I get a new phone I am prompted to register the new phone's IMEI. I don't get prompted for a passport or other document. If you are able to recharge your number or check the its status I'm probably barking up the wrong tree.
Tried that. It said my passport number was fake!
This might be the problem. Colombia passport numbers are five digits preceded by two letters. I think the two letters might correspond to department (E. G. CO = Cordoba). Maybe it's worth a try to Use CO followed by five random digits.
With Claro I remember registering my on Huawei P30 and before that my LG V30 with my passport and it worked fine. But I now have been using Tigo for over a year and I recently bought a new phone a Xiaomi Redmi Note 12's and when I went to register it in the Mi Tigo app it didn't give me an option for registering with a passport. It only had options for cedula de ciudadania, cedula de extranjeria, and some shit called HTIN or something. Luckily I've been seeing alot of paisas lately and one that I'm close to let me use her cedula de ciudadania to register my phone and it worked like a charm on the first try.
Voodoo Jones
10-11-23, 16:45
Wtf is up with online? I messaged a bunch of girls most don't respond. When they do respond they respond I try to confirm the time or the place they don't respond.
I had two girls tell me send me the money for the taxi and I'm like no I will send you the Uber paid. They either don't respond or charge me 60 k for taxis. I live right next to this girl BTW. I legit went to her spot for another girl and it was 7 k from my spot.
I went to see the only girl that would actually confirm that I could go there and they bait and switch me with another girl. And then they do the usual o sorry she's not here she's doing a domicilio I can show you the only other girl that is here I'm like whatever this better be the hottest girl I've ever seen because I'm not tolerating this garbageass service. Girl is also ugly. That's why they're don't get picked. Hire better girls. So I leave.
Wtf is happening? Can I get a decent girl to show up and or respond? Wtf.I haven't had any problems with scheduling women online the past one and a half week. The bait and switch only seems to happen at spas where the women typically don't live there. I had that happen on my last trip, but I knew it was a spa because they sent multiple options to me when I first texted them. Luckily, they informed me that my original choice was unavailable before I left and the one I ended up (they had the available ones introduce themselves one at a time) with was cute and enthusiastic.
I've been to multiple houses where the women live there, but each one has a personal number and I always get the one I texted.
My personal advice is to repeat with the ones you liked because the subsequent sessions get better. It's always a gamble if the session would be good even if she's hot. I had 2 women in Bogota that looked like their pictures but weren't good at all. Usually best to start with 30 minutes just in case and then schedule longer sessions if she's worth it.
Please let us know how you answered these chicks so we can have a good laugh. LOL.I said I'm looking to conocer gente.
I said I'm looking to conocer gente.Most are looking for sponsors or money. At least you can say you are looking for beneficios mutuos.
Mr Enternational
10-11-23, 19:16
I recommend you bring the phone with the SIM card in it and your passport to a Claro dealer or sales office. One of their mall locations Yes I went to a big mall Claro store with my phone, passport, SIM, and original packaging for it. That is where the lady told me I did not need to do anything except go to the cashier and purchase more credit.
I just booked a flight to Medellin for the 17th. I read that hotel Dix is girl friendly but it seems to be booked. Does anyone have a recommendation for a hotel? Any other advice is welcome. I have been studying Spanish for 6 months but still suck. First time in Colombia, but lots of other experience.
BTW I am continuing on to BA. After 10 days in Medellin, but the Argentina forum is a ghost town. Back when I couldn't go it was an amazing forum, now that I'm going it's worthless. Is there website anyone recommends for BA?
I'm planning my first trip to Colombia. Planning to stay a week or two in Medellin next month (trying to decide whether to split two weeks between that and Bogota or not). Anyone could point me to a cute GFE paisa who could also serve as a guide? Show me around town, take me to various neighborhoods, point me to interesting eating establishments, local foods, maybe even bring a friend over for threesome, and wouldn't feed me scolopomine LOL.
Maybe a student or a former student that works on the side. I'd be working most nights but my days and weekends should be free.
I'm pretty well versed on most things Brazil, including off the beaten path but this would be my first time in Colombia. I'd really appreciate the lead. I speak good Portuguese and passable Spanish. PM please.
Mr Enternational
10-12-23, 01:38
but the Argentina forum is a ghost town. Back when I couldn't go it was an amazing forum, now that I'm going it's worthless.And that does not tell you anything?
I just booked a flight to Medellin for the 17th. I read that hotel Dix is girl friendly but it seems to be booked. Does anyone have a recommendation for a hotel? Any other advice is welcome. I have been studying Spanish for 6 months but still suck. First time in Colombia, but lots of other experience.
BTW I am continuing on to BA. After 10 days in Medellin, but the Argentina forum is a ghost town. Back when I couldn't go it was an amazing forum, now that I'm going it's worthless. Is there website anyone recommends for BA?Most guys will here will tell you to RTFF (read the fucking forum) but I will try and answer your questions.
Have you considered Airbnb, they are readily available.
Uber is prob the safest and most economical way to get around, a taxi from the airport should cost you around 90 K pesos and you can change money at the airport, their rates are decent, then use ATMs or money exchanges for the duration.
If you go to parque LLeras and venture into Gustos, the girls will sense you are a newbie and the ugliest Chicas will try to charge you $250-300 DOLLARS, learn the exchange rate (4300 pesos to one USD) get quoted in Pesos, if you do decide to pay in dollars, at least choose an 8 hope that you will have a good experience. Beatty is in the eye of the beholder, but we all can agree on the difference btw a 5 and a 8-10, if u pay an ugly average chica 1.2 million pesos, don’t expect the prettiest ones not to charge the same or more.
Be aware of your surroundings, be on lookout for chicas who will try to drug you.
Scroll thru the forum, tons of info. Dont attract attention, stay low key and have fun.
Wtf is up with online? I messaged a bunch of girls most don't respond. When they do respond they respond I try to confirm the time or the place they don't respond.
I had two girls tell me send me the money for the taxi and I'm like no I will send you the Uber paid. They either don't respond or charge me 60 k for taxis. I live right next to this girl BTW. I legit went to her spot for another girl and it was 7 k from my spot.
I went to see the only girl that would actually confirm that I could go there and they bait and switch me with another girl. And then they do the usual o sorry she's not here she's doing a domicilio I can show you the only other girl that is here I'm like whatever this better be the hottest girl I've ever seen because I'm not tolerating this garbageass service. Girl is also ugly. That's why they're don't get picked. Hire better girls. So I leave.
Wtf is happening? Can I get a decent girl to show up and or respond? Wtf.New mongers are treating these girls as if they are princesses, too much money coming into MDE and these guys are throwing cash around so the girls are acting accordingly with their options. I am not advocating that anyone should mistreat them, rather it appears that some mongers have forgotten who is paying whom for services rendered.
One of my girls used to take 350K pesos for a few hrs, obviously she now has others who are paying her moreshe tried to push me down her schedule (tomorrow when she has time) I never called her backshes cute but I would rather find another or go somewhere else, when a chica feels she can put me on a backlog, good riddance.
PS.
Our plane arrived early back to the US, we must have been delayed 20 mins at the gate, We are trying to find someone with a key to the sky deck thing which connects u to the gate at least that was the explanation, when we finally got off the plane, there were at least 10 agents fully armed at the doorsomeone got caught.
This trip I stopped thru Hooters to watch the games, chicas are really cute -anyone tried to link up?
I just booked a flight to Medellin for the 17th. I read that hotel Dix is girl friendly but it seems to be booked. Does anyone have a recommendation for a hotel? Any other advice is welcome. I have been studying Spanish for 6 months but still suck. First time in Colombia, but lots of other experience.
BTW I am continuing on to BA. After 10 days in Medellin, but the Argentina forum is a ghost town. Back when I couldn't go it was an amazing forum, now that I'm going it's worthless. Is there website anyone recommends for BA?BA:
Club the'Lirio Vicente López 2134.
Disco bar after the show on the upper floor: https://www.cocodrilobuenosaires.com/.
Local forum: https://www.escortsxp.com/.
Escorts: https://www.soloindependientes.com/escorts-acompanantes.htm.
There is much more. Important to know dolar blue rate and official ARS rate, bring cash, how you manage your cash exchange and payments is important.
Banned twice on tinder. The first time was for saying I want to be someone's sugar daddy in the bio.
Now I get banned saying X no trans X I was basically only getting matches with trans people and ugly girls. Those are the kinds of people that will report you.
I guess that goes to show that my pictures didn't portray any looks, money, or status. I had at least enough of those to get ugly girls and trans people who will honestly go for anyone. Pros / normal good looking girls just don't like me I guess. I'm not making another account until I have abs in 3 months and it I can flash something expensive.
Be careful out there.
Side note. The last time I went to gustos I saw some dude pay the bounce 20 usd instead of 20k cop. Crazy. Even little things like that goes to show the money being thrown around at these girls which causes them to act badly
This trip I stopped thru Hooters to watch the games,Does that Hooters stream every / any sports event? If it is the same as the Hooters in Bogota's Zona T, then it only shows the games that are on the regular cable channels.
There's 2 places in Parque Lleras that will stream any sports event that you request. Patrick's, it's the Irish bar. And Gringo Loco. This bar replaced the old one that was there. Same format; new owner. Ex military; nice guy. Also, I was told that the sports bar in San Peter (Avenida 70) will stream the games.
That's the advantage of having all these gringos around. I couldn't find any place in Bogota's Zona T that streams all the games. Even the bars that were labeled as "sports bars" only showed the games that were on the regular cable channels.
Most guys will here will tell you to RTFF (read the fucking forum) but I will try and answer your questions.
Have you considered Airbnb, they are readily available.
Uber is prob the safest and most economical way to get around, a taxi from the airport should cost you around 90 K pesos and you can change money at the airport, their rates are decent, then use ATMs or money exchanges for the duration.
If you go to parque LLeras and venture into Gustos, the girls will sense you are a newbie and the ugliest Chicas will try to charge you $250-300 DOLLARS, learn the exchange rate (4300 pesos to one USD) get quoted in Pesos, if you do decide to pay in dollars, at least choose an 8 hope that you will have a good experience. Beatty is in the eye of the beholder, but we all can agree on the difference btw a 5 and a 8-10, if u pay an ugly average chica 1.2 million pesos, dont expect the prettiest ones not to charge the same or more.
Be aware of your surroundings, be on lookout for chicas who will try to drug you.
Scroll thru the forum, tons of info. Dont attract attention, stay low key and have fun.The airport exchange rate is terrible. Exchange rates in Medellin are decent, but not at the airport.
One of exchange places at the Bogota airport usually has a good rate.
Mr Enternational
10-12-23, 06:46
Now I get banned saying X no trans X I was basically only getting matches with trans people and ugly girls. Those are the kinds of people that will report you.It was not the people that reported you. It was the system. I got banned for reporting that a person in the female section was trans.
Mr Enternational
10-12-23, 06:53
Our plane arrived early back to the US, we must have been delayed 20 mins at the gate, We are trying to find someone with a key to the sky deck thing which connects u to the gate at least that was the explanation, when we finally got off the plane, there were at least 10 agents fully armed at the doorSame thing happened on my flight from Bogota Monday. Well they could not get one of the security doors open. And there were like 10 Customs guys around as well.
...I was basically only getting matches with trans people and ugly girls. Those are the kinds of people that will report you....Does it take two to have a match?
The airport exchange rate is terrible. Exchange rates in Medellin are decent, but not at the airport.
One of exchange places at the Bogota airport usually has a good rate.No money exchange place gives a reasonable rate, not in the MDE airport, not in the BOG airport, not in any city. Those places make money by ripping people off. Some of them are so bad they literally give you like 20% less than the actual exchange rate shown on Google. The only way to get a fair exchange rate is to use an ATM machine to withdraw pesos.
After arriving at the MDE airport and going thru migration and customs, he can use the escalator to go back up to the 2nd level and then head toward the salidas nacionales side of the terminal. Before he reaches the security check point there are several ATM machines there on the left hand side including Davivienda which doesn't charge any fees.
If arriving at the BOG airport there isn't a Davivienda but there are several other ATMs I believe bancolombia and banco de Bogotá or some other green one. Those ATMs will charge a fee but even with said fee he will still be getting a better exchange rate than using a money exchange kiosk. And always remember to decline the fee the ATM offers.
-Gabacho.
Don't trust the ATMs at the MDE airport. Twice I've had my Schwab card canceled mid-trip because of attempted fraud after I used the ATM at the airport. Since then I've made the habit of always keeping enough COP with me when I leave Colombia to get me back into town and to a more secure ATM when I return.
Mr Enternational
10-12-23, 16:45
No money exchange place gives a reasonable rate, not in the MDE airport, not in the BOG airport, not in any city. Those places make money by ripping people off.Actually some in Asia, Dominican Republic, and Peru do give more of a real rate. I do not know how they make money. But on the whole asking about a currency exchange place is like asking where should I get a horse and buggy to get from the airport to my hotel in Poblado. The people that still use the places in the States must be totally green at traveling. I can not believe those places are still open as big of a ripoff as they are. So if I give you $1, you will give me 80 cent worth of the other currency? Deal!
Something very annoying that you learn living here is there isn't much organized customer service. Colombia businesses and government are very good at presenting an image of organized procedures and regulations but the reality is you can ask five employees and officials a question and get five different answers. It's especially bad with the banks. My advice is to seek a second or third opinion until you find an informed and motivated employee. The answer you described sounds to me like an employee who said what she thought would get you to go away quickly. I'm sorry this has been such a pain in the neck but I'm confident you will be able to get it resolved.
Yes I went to a big mall Claro store with my phone, passport, SIM, and original packaging for it. That is where the lady told me I did not need to do anything except go to the cashier and purchase more credit.
Most guys will here will tell you to RTFF (read the fucking forum) but I will try and answer your questions.
Have you considered Airbnb, they are readily available.I've been reading the forum a little obsessively.
I looked at AirBnB, but some say "no sex tourism" some say nothing, so I'm not sure if saying nothing means OK. Some say 24 security guards.
Thanks for the help.
Don't trust the ATMs at the MDE airport. Twice I've had my Schwab card canceled mid-trip because of attempted fraud after I used the ATM at the airport. Since then I've made the habit of always keeping enough COP with me when I leave Colombia to get me back into town and to a more secure ATM when I return.Which exact ATM was it? I've used the Davivienda machines there as well as the BBVA on the bottom level (before they started charging 18 mil) and I've never had any fraud on my card. As easy way to avoid this would be to just lock your card on your app whenever you are not using it to withdraw.
I just booked a flight to Medellin for the 17th. I read that hotel Dix is girl friendly but it seems to be booked. Does anyone have a recommendation for a hotel? Any other advice is welcome. I have been studying Spanish for 6 months but still suck. First time in Colombia, but lots of other experience.
BTW I am continuing on to BA. After 10 days in Medellin, but the Argentina forum is a ghost town. Back when I couldn't go it was an amazing forum, now that I'm going it's worthless. Is there website anyone recommends for BA?I'm actually headed to Medellin on the 17/18th and then on to Buenos Aires from there too. Maybe a 1 stop in Bogota since its the layover. Been reading the forums trying to get the lay of the land and will do some trip reports.
No money exchange place gives a reasonable rate, not in the MDE airport, not in the BOG airport, not in any city. Those places make money by ripping people off. Some of them are so bad they literally give you like 20% less than the actual exchange rate shown on Google. The only way to get a fair exchange rate is to use an ATM machine to withdraw pesos.
After arriving at the MDE airport and going thru migration and customs, he can use the escalator to go back up to the 2nd level and then head toward the salidas nacionales side of the terminal. Before he reaches the security check point there are several ATM machines there on the left hand side including Davivienda which doesn't charge any fees.
If arriving at the BOG airport there isn't a Davivienda but there are several other ATMs I believe bancolombia and banco de Bogot or some other green one. Those ATMs will charge a fee but even with said fee he will still be getting a better exchange rate than using a money exchange kiosk. And always remember to decline the fee the ATM offers.
-Gabacho.I meant the exchange rate that the ATM offers*.
DiscoverFL
10-12-23, 20:03
I just booked a flight to Medellin for the 17th. I read that hotel Dix is girl friendly but it seems to be booked. Does anyone have a recommendation for a hotel? Any other advice is welcome. I have been studying Spanish for 6 months but still suck. First time in Colombia, but lots of other experience.
BTW I am continuing on to BA. After 10 days in Medellin, but the Argentina forum is a ghost town. Back when I couldn't go it was an amazing forum, now that I'm going it's worthless. Is there website anyone recommends for BA?Check the mansion (http://hotelmedellinplaza.com), best place for your first time in town.
DiscoverFL
10-12-23, 20:13
Don't trust the ATMs at the MDE airport. Twice I've had my Schwab card canceled mid-trip because of attempted fraud after I used the ATM at the airport. Since then I've made the habit of always keeping enough COP with me when I leave Colombia to get me back into town and to a more secure ATM when I return.Haven't had your experience, but one tip for foreign travel with any card. Try to make your FIRST transaction a card insert with pin, NOT a 'tap to pay'. The higher security insert with pin will validate the card and you as being there (knowing the pin), thus marking you and the card as in-country. If your first transaction is a tap-to-pay (like buying a coffee before the ATM) then you may get flagged as potential fraud. Since they can only validate the card and not yourself, then a generated security call may not reach or ring you out-of-country (since you 'just' arrived, cell phone company may not be forwarding calls properly yet), and your card will get disabled. Using an ATM (even the one right by the exit) with your PIN will count as a card insert with pin. With this approach even my local credit union ATM card has worked reliably in Colombia and many other countries (including Morocco).
Don't trust the ATMs at the MDE airport. Twice I've had my Schwab card canceled mid-trip because of attempted fraud after I used the ATM at the airport. Since then I've made the habit of always keeping enough COP with me when I leave Colombia to get me back into town and to a more secure ATM when I return.I have never had any issues with the ATMs at the MDE airport. I have used the ATMs upstairs at the airport on six separate occasions without an issue. Now, it may be the case that the boardmember had issues with his Schwab card but it may not be related to the ATMs at the airport. I also use Schwab. Works like a charm each and every time with no issues.
DiscoverFL
10-12-23, 20:24
After arriving at the MDE airport and going thru migration and customs, he can use the escalator to go back up to the 2nd level and then head toward the salidas nacionales side of the terminal. Before he reaches the security check point there are several ATM machines there on the left hand side including Davivienda which doesn't charge any fees.Excellent advise, I always forget about that Davivienda ATM on the 2nd floor. This will save you the extra $5 the ATM at the immigration exist charges as an additional fee. Goes without saying, always remember to DECLINE their conversion, let your own bank do the conversion.
I've been following this forum for quite some time leading up to my trip and this has me pretty bummed out.
I've been wanting to just get a GF type for my couple days in medellin and seems like situation is pretty rough.
The last 50 pages of this sub I pretty much gathered.
- do facebook research connections before you go.
- tinder girls could be ok more potential for scolp.
- la isla is good for a quickie but over priced.
- loutron is hit or miss.
- parque lleras girls are mostly sub 7.
- and just never go to gustos.
- photo prepago? (not sure).
Is this basically the summary of medellin's current situation?I have visited Medellin six times. I have never been to the casas. I have never taken a El Centro or Poblado streetwalker. I have never taken a girl at Loutron, Gustos or La Isla. I have never used online prepago sites.
Yet I always have a good time in Medellin. I just focus on girls on Facebook and I have always been able to find young attractive girls for a reasonable fair price (per my standards). No reason to go elsewhere as far as I am concern.
Still it is not for everyone because it requires some time and effort prior to going on your trip. Usually I have girls ready to go on Facebook before I set foot in Medellin. To each his own.
Wtf is up with online? I messaged a bunch of girls most don't respond. When they do respond they respond I try to confirm the time or the place they don't respond.
I had two girls tell me send me the money for the taxi and I'm like no I will send you the Uber paid. They either don't respond or charge me 60 k for taxis. I live right next to this girl BTW. I legit went to her spot for another girl and it was 7 k from my spot.
I went to see the only girl that would actually confirm that I could go there and they bait and switch me with another girl. And then they do the usual o sorry she's not here she's doing a domicilio I can show you the only other girl that is here I'm like whatever this better be the hottest girl I've ever seen because I'm not tolerating this garbageass service. Girl is also ugly. That's why they're don't get picked. Hire better girls. So I leave.
Wtf is happening? Can I get a decent girl to show up and or respond? Wtf.I am not sure what you mean by online girls. Are you referring to prepago websites or Seeking girls or Facebook girls? These are all online girls.
Here is my take on Facebook girls. Some girls are flaky. Some girls will not respond to you. Some girls will take their time in responding to you. If you chat with enough girls, it doesn't matter. Follow up with the ones with respond promptly and agree to your terms.
Does it take two to have a match?Who has time to vet whether or not they are trans. I just swipe right in everyone and see who bites.
BbqMushrooms
10-13-23, 00:00
Anyone gone on the unofficial moto ride around Medellin on Halloween. Where everyone dresses up and tricks out their bikes?
I'd love to go this year.
Airport BOG.
USD exchange rates.
4200 to buy.
4000 to sell.
Hooters.
The had at least 3 games on plus the chicas were nice eye candy.
Those aren't terrible rates for an airport exchange booth. The ATMs will always give better rates.
Airport BOG.
USD exchange rates.
4200 to buy.
4000 to sell.
Hooters.
The had at least 3 games on plus the chicas were nice eye candy.
That really is excellent advice. Another option is uber or didi. You can pay them by credit card via the apps. There is free wifi at the airport.
Excellent advise, I always forget about that Davivienda ATM on the 2nd floor. This will save you the extra $5 the ATM at the immigration exist charges as an additional fee. Goes without saying, always remember to DECLINE their conversion, let your own bank do the conversion.
Those guys pass by my apartment. It seems like the group gets bigger every year.
Anyone gone on the unofficial moto ride around Medellin on Halloween. Where everyone dresses up and tricks out their bikes?
I'd love to go this year.
JohnnieCash
10-13-23, 17:14
The foreigner from the USA and a Colombian National were held hostage at the home in Las Palmas where they were kept since Friday October 6th by the criminal group Los Pachelly from Bello. The victims were tortured, gave up code for the safe, the valuables were taken from the home, while held hostage at home, other members of the criminal organization went out and emptied bank accounts over the days.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/rescate-de-secuestrados-en-parcelacion-de-las-palmas-medellin-PF22637080
Something very annoying that you learn living here is there isn't much organized customer service. Colombia businesses and government are very good at presenting an image of organized procedures and regulations but the reality is you can ask five employees and officials a question and get five different answers. It's especially bad with the banks. My advice is to seek a second or third opinion until you find an informed and motivated employee. The answer you described sounds to me like an employee who said what she thought would get you to go away quickly.I agree with your evaluation of customer service. Last month, I had to buy a new cell phone in Medellin (previous phone's battery got pregnant). I bought the phone at Ktronix. I asked the sales lady if they could register the phone. She told me no, that I needed to go to Claro, which is the carrier I use. The lady at Claro told me they could not register it until 20 days after I purchased it. I knew that didn't sound right, but there was nothing else I could do at the Claro store. I then went to the Mi Claro app and finally got it to accept my passport number. I was able to register the phone through the app the day after I purchased it. I also learned on the Claro site that the phone may be locked after 21 days of when usage starts. I still can't get the Mi Claro app to accept my credit card, so I can't add data through the app.
Another tidbit of information. If you use Symantec VIP authentication with your Schwab account, it will not work if you change phones, even though it transfers all the information in the app to the new phone. You need to call Schwab to register the new phone with the app.
I've been reading the forum a little obsessively.
I looked at AirBnB, but some say "no sex tourism" some say nothing, so I'm not sure if saying nothing means OK. Some say 24 security guards.
Thanks for the help.You should always message the host and remove all doubt. Saying nothing doesn't mean ok. You don't have to mention girls. You just have to ask about the guest policy and they are more than happy to tell you what they allow. The hosts are very good in getting back to you. There are many great Abnbs that I do not stay at because they do not allow guests or they only allow one registered guest for the whole stay. Now it is possible that you can sneak girls in but I don't like to play that game.
The foreigner from the USA and a Colombian National were held hostage at the home in Las Palmas where they were kept since Friday October 6th by the criminal group Los Pachelly from Bello. The victims were tortured, gave up code for the safe, the valuables were taken from the home, while held hostage at home, other members of the criminal organization went out and emptied bank accounts over the days.
https://www.elcolombiano.com/antioquia/rescate-de-secuestrados-en-parcelacion-de-las-palmas-medellin-PF22637080We are targets. Best advice is to always keep a low profile.
Another tip is to always travel with a backup card, preferably from a second account. It can save your vacation.
Haven't had your experience, but one tip for foreign travel with any card. Try to make your FIRST transaction a card insert with pin, NOT a 'tap to pay'. The higher security insert with pin will validate the card and you as being there (knowing the pin), thus marking you and the card as in-country. If your first transaction is a tap-to-pay (like buying a coffee before the ATM) then you may get flagged as potential fraud. Since they can only validate the card and not yourself, then a generated security call may not reach or ring you out-of-country (since you 'just' arrived, cell phone company may not be forwarding calls properly yet), and your card will get disabled. Using an ATM (even the one right by the exit) with your PIN will count as a card insert with pin. With this approach even my local credit union ATM card has worked reliably in Colombia and many other countries (including Morocco).
Maybe you experienced the impact of recess week. It ends today. Colombian schools and universities have an annual vacation this week. It's basically similar to the European summer school holidays and the North American Spring Break.
Wtf is up with online? I messaged a bunch of girls most don't respond. When they do respond they respond I try to confirm the time or the place they don't respond.
I had two girls tell me send me the money for the taxi and I'm like no I will send you the Uber paid. They either don't respond or charge me 60 k for taxis. I live right next to this girl BTW. I legit went to her spot for another girl and it was 7 k from my spot.
I went to see the only girl that would actually confirm that I could go there and they bait and switch me with another girl. And then they do the usual o sorry she's not here she's doing a domicilio I can show you the only other girl that is here I'm like whatever this better be the hottest girl I've ever seen because I'm not tolerating this garbageass service. Girl is also ugly. That's why they're don't get picked. Hire better girls. So I leave.
Wtf is happening? Can I get a decent girl to show up and or respond? Wtf.
Don't trust the ATMs at the MDE airport. Twice I've had my Schwab card canceled mid-trip because of attempted fraud after I used the ATM at the airport. Since then I've made the habit of always keeping enough COP with me when I leave Colombia to get me back into town and to a more secure ATM when I return.This might not apply to you, who knows. But Schwab says that if you are traveling abroad it is a good idea to set a travel notice. It will lessen the chance of a transaction being declined because of potential fraud. Now this should not apply to withdrawing from an ATM but it might. When I first started coming to Medellin I religiously set the travel notice to avoid any potential problems. It takes a few minutes and who knows how much time it will have saved you if you have a problem while you are out of country.
I'm staying very near the estadio metro stop. Any good short time motel recommendations? Thanks.
Something very annoying that you learn living here is there isn't much organized customer service. Colombia businesses and government are very good at presenting an image of organized procedures and regulations but the reality is you can ask five employees and officials a question and get five different answers. It's especially bad with the banks. My advice is to seek a second or third opinion until you find an informed and motivated employee. The answer you described sounds to me like an employee who said what she thought would get you to go away quickly. I'm sorry this has been such a pain in the neck but I'm confident you will be able to get it resolved.Yep, I had an issue with Claro regarding Internet service and what I was being charged monthly.
The first person I talked with said they could not lower what I was paying for Internet service and this was after I had posed as a new customer and the rate quoted was lower.
I was told they couldn't lower the price to match what new customers were paying.
So I demanded to speak with her boss and presented my case, and her boss immediately lowered the price to match what new customers were paying.
What you have brought up is correct, there's no consistency to things at many places of business, and I think especially for foreigners, they just want to blow you off.
When I called for the employees boss, she was not a happy camper about this, especially when her boss lowered the price.
And upon leaving and getting it in writing as to what was promised, I told the Supervisor that her employee who tried to blow me off that she was an excellent business woman trying to increase company profits.
Now it is possible that you can sneak girls in but I don't like to play that game.Exactly. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Foreigners won't have a leg to stand on in these situations.
Yea basically any profile you find only with a decent looking girl is probably fake. They are just trying to lure you in so that then they can give you all the girls that are actually available.
They're using photos of girls who used to to work in their agency years ago and probably moved on to tithes things but because she looks good and generates a lot of leads they just use her pictures as the poster girl for the agency and when you actually hit them up one of the girls pretends to be the poster girl and right when they give you the address to call the Uber and the Uber is on it's way they say oh by the way we played you and this is actually the girl that's showing up.
If they ask for 350 mil and for the taxi money in advanced you already know the deal. I tell them oh I don't have a way to send you money for taxis but I can get you Uber and there's like ok then you're paying 410 k in total. I'm like I'm not dumb I live right next you to and the taxi there. And back should be max 20 k.
In the end, Medellin online is just filled mostly with a bunch of scammers. Why? Because there's gringo money now and all the good looking girls said f you to the agencies and the agencies are only left with ugly girls so they have to scam in order to even get close to making what they used to make with actually decent looking girls.
Oh and the girls don’t know about this either. It’s management doing this. I went one time and it was at a spa. they tried the switxheroo when i got there and i was like im
not hsving it and showed the girl the profile and she was like confused because it linked to her number. she called management and they were doing a "domiciilio". yea right that girl probably doesnt exist.
I'm staying very near the estadio metro stop. Any good short time motel recommendations? Thanks.Hotel Suites 44 is a no frills love motel. Lov Suites should be more upscale.
Yea basically any profile you find only with a decent looking girl is probably fake. They are just trying to lure you in so that then they can give you all the girls that are actually available.
They're using photos of girls who used to to work in their agency years ago and probably moved on to tithes things but because she looks good and generates a lot of leads they just use her pictures as the poster girl for the agency and when you actually hit them up one of the girls pretends to be the poster girl and right when they give you the address to call the Uber and the Uber is on it's way they say oh by the way we played you and this is actually the girl that's showing up.
If they ask for 350 mil and for the taxi money in advanced you already know the deal. I tell them oh I don't have a way to send you money for taxis but I can get you Uber and there's like ok then you're paying 410 k in total. I'm like I'm not dumb I live right next you to and the taxi there. And back should be max 20 k.
In the end, Medellin online is just filled mostly with a bunch of scammers. Why? Because there's gringo money now and all the good looking girls said f you to the agencies and the agencies are only left with ugly girls so they have to scam in order to even get close to making what they used to make with actually decent looking girls..I guess you are referring to online prepagos or girls advertising on websites such as mileroticos. What you are saying may be true to some extent. My experience has been with online girls on Facebook. On Facebook at least, the girls tend to look like their pictures. They come to you and you pay for the taxi when they arrive. You negotiate the price with the girls and meet the girls that agree to the price that you want to pay and agree to the sexual activities that you want for the time you want. After six trips, it has been worked out fine for me.
Airport BOG.
USD exchange rates.
4200 to buy.
4000 to sell.
Hooters.
The had at least 3 games on plus the chicas were nice eye candy.Nice try buddy. These are current rates as of Friday 10/13. Most money exchange places are offering 3800 to 3900 per dollar while the atms are giving out between 4200 to 4300 per dollar. That's a difference of between 30 mil to 40 mil (about 10%) for each $100 that is exchanged / withdrawn. Adds up fast if one is exchanging $500 usd or more.
Not sure about you, but if I went to Colombia with $5,000 usd I wouldn't want to give away $500 of it to a money exchange kiosk.
Attached is the current rates of money exchange kiosks in various cities in Colombia and at different money exchanges.
Only in Cucuta does the rate apear to be somewhat close to the real exchange rate and none of you are flying in thru Cucuta.
Gabacho.
The Colombian slang term for this practice is "el cambiazo. " Loosely translated it means "bait and switch. "
Yea basically any profile you find only with a decent looking girl is probably fake. They are just trying to lure you in so that then they can give you all the girls that are actually available.
They're using photos of girls who used to to work in their agency years ago and probably moved on to tithes things but because she looks good and generates a lot of leads they just use her pictures as the poster girl for the agency and when you actually hit them up one of the girls pretends to be the poster girl and right when they give you the address to call the Uber and the Uber is on it's way they say oh by the way we played you and this is actually the girl that's showing up.
If they ask for 350 mil and for the taxi money in advanced you already know the deal. I tell them oh I don't have a way to send you money for taxis but I can get you Uber and there's like ok then you're paying 410 k in total. I'm like I'm not dumb I live right next you to and the taxi there. And back should be max 20 k.
In the end, Medellin online is just filled mostly with a bunch of scammers. Why? Because there's gringo money now and all the good looking girls said f you to the agencies and the agencies are only left with ugly girls so they have to scam in order to even get close to making what they used to make with actually decent looking girls.
Debit and credit card issuers use security algorithms and individual user history to prevent fraud. Deviations from the typical usage pattern can trigger a fraud alert and flag a users account to be blocked. Your recommendation is a good way to prevent it. Guys who infrequently use their cards outside their home countries should notify their card issuers a week or so in advance to avoid a bad surprise.
This might not apply to you, who knows. But Schwab says that if you are traveling abroad it is a good idea to set a travel notice. It will lessen the chance of a transaction being declined because of potential fraud. Now this should not apply to withdrawing from an ATM but it might. When I first started coming to Medellin I religiously set the travel notice to avoid any potential problems. It takes a few minutes and who knows how much time it will have saved you if you have a problem while you are out of country.
ElSexoChino7
10-14-23, 23:21
This is my first time going Halloween time in Medellin. Does anybody knows any Halloween parties event to go to? I'd definitely going to try one of the nights in the Mansion. I've read about some kind of motorcycle Halloween event that will be happening.
Does anybody have info or link on that event?
Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.
This might not apply to you, who knows. But Schwab says that if you are traveling abroad it is a good idea to set a travel notice. It will lessen the chance of a transaction being declined because of potential fraud. Now this should not apply to withdrawing from an ATM but it might. When I first started coming to Medellin I religiously set the travel notice to avoid any potential problems. It takes a few minutes and who knows how much time it will have saved you if you have a problem while you are out of country.I've used my Schwab card all over the world for twenty years and have never put in a travel alert, and have never had the card declined. YEMV.
I've read about penile implants of the sort Larry Flynt made famous after he became paraplegic. As described, it would eliminate the normal refractory period. I guess you have to decide how much you want to countermand Mother Nature. More recently, transexuals who were born as women have begun using them as part of their transition to manhood.
Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.
DiscoverFL
10-15-23, 03:26
This is my first time going Halloween time in Medellin. Does anybody knows any Halloween parties event to go to? I'd definitely going to try one of the nights in the Mansion. I've read about some kind of motorcycle Halloween event that will be happening.
Does anybody have info or link on that event?Friday 27th at the Mansion's club is their annual crazy Halloween party. Advance ticket purchase recommended. Definitely the place to be. Well at least for me that's where I will be.
Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.Taldalafil.
Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.Generic Cialis is available-- good prices.
Manizales911
10-15-23, 17:49
Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.Get an IPP procedure, Inflatable Penile Prosthesis. Best decision of my life, I can bang for days if I want to.
Manizales911
10-15-23, 17:50
I've read about penile implants of the sort Larry Flynt made famous after he became paraplegic. As described, it would eliminate the normal refractory period. I guess you have to decide how much you want to countermand Mother Nature. More recently, transexuals who were born as women have begun using them as part of their transition to manhood.I have one, greatest invention since the wheel, maybe better.
Manizales911
10-15-23, 17:53
I've used my Schwab card all over the world for twenty years and have never put in a travel alert, and have never had the card declined. YEMV.Until it does. Make sure you have a backup plan because one day it is going to happen. I have two Schwab cards and they have been declined / blocked multiple times.
As I've spent the first half of my month long stay here in Poblado I must say that while my regulars have been good the newbie scene is a little slower than in August. Been stopping into the Mansion and it's been slower than expected. Plenty of the regular girls but not a lot of new blood. Did meet one a couple of weeks ago that's been a delight. I like the ones who come to the city for the first time, hear about the Mansion and want to make a little money. They seem more a little more non-pro to start with and enjoy just hanging out, eating and overnighting.
Had my fair share of regular chica drama. You know, car accidents, sick nephews, sick kids and eviction notices. All of course with the solution of pesos to fix everything. But I must say the level and frequency of drama is much less than I've grown accustomed to having lived in Haiti for a number of years. Mind you the Haitian and Dominican men and women are masters at conjuring up some reason they need help. I had a maid there in one of my homes who every year at Christmas we mourned and buried her grandmother. Mind you, she was a live in maid for $75 a month, so you just sort of roll with it and keep a straight face. But here in Colombia I do appreciate that regular girls like to spend time with you but are less drama needy. Not say they don't have some, but it's less for me.
If you're looking for a good inexpensive massage, I've tried the Garage a couple of times in the Rio Center. One hour is 100 K, 70 K special on Saturday. First time the girl was straight legit massage, which is what I was looking for. Second time, the girls doing a good job but I notice kept removing my towel and was pretty open about a full body experience. Laying face down for the back massage she suddenly jumps up on top of me and starts massaging me with her bare legs. Now it's taking me a minute to realize some how during the massage she got her pants off. Reminded me of a soapy experience in Bangkok. She did a good job and then asked if I wanted "extras" to which she asked for 100 K stimulation and 250 K for oral. As you can imagine I passed. Nonetheless, for 70 K it's a good hour massage.
I spend my days walking and discovering new places. Thanks to one fellow on here I went to visit a Japanese Ice Cream parlor on Calle 10. With the secret phrase and the knowledge that you can open the ice cream cooler door you can enter one of the most interesting Speakeasy's I've been to in awhile. Great atmosphere, drinks and a few local girls.
See ya all at the Mansion Halloween Party.
Nice try buddy. These are current rates as of Friday 10/13. Most money exchange places are offering 3800 to 3900 per dollar while the atms are giving out between 4200 to 4300 per dollar. That's a difference of between 30 mil to 40 mil (about 10%) for each $100 that is exchanged / withdrawn. Adds up fast if one is exchanging $500 usd or more.
Not sure about you, but if I went to Colombia with $5,000 usd I wouldn't want to give away $500 of it to a money exchange kiosk.
Attached is the current rates of money exchange kiosks in various cities in Colombia and at different money exchanges.
Only in Cucuta does the rate apear to be somewhat close to the real exchange rate and none of you are flying in thru Cucuta.
Gabacho.I actually got 154 USD for 650 K Pesos in BOG.
Member #4788
10-15-23, 20:46
I have been to Colombia a few times. Been to Cartagena once and Medellin several. For those of you considering Cartagena, is say stay away. It really sucks in terms of a cool vacation spot. The weather is hot. Its got a seedy feel to it, especially by the clock tower. While I enjoy the new area hotels, and the beauty of old town, I was very much under heat alert as it is 100% humidity and felt like 120. I was dripping sweat from the moment I would step out in the day.
So that's why I recommend, Medellin! What a beautiful country with the beautiful looking women, the beautiful scenery of being in a bowl like country with green jungle trees between high rises. I recommend when staying, book a hotel on Airbnb. You can actually get better rates by connecting with those AIRBNB host on google via their website. Saves you about 40%. I like to stay in Poblado where the new nicer high rises are, and its safe and clean. Below I will try to give a quick guide for the many things I have experienced in MDE.
1. I have never stayed overnight in Parque Lleras. However this is where most people tend to go at night for fun. While its a cool spot to walk around, drink, have fun, I found more fun outside.
2. When I went to Medellin, I was introduced to this big ass Colombian dude who I'm sure some on this forum might know. I think his name was Julian or something like that. Anyways he's very well connected with Americans, he has contacts with chicks, and drugs. He invited me to a few mansion pool parties with the baddest looking chicks. If you're looking for him, all you got to do is ask some regular Americans who might look like theyre part of the game. I lost all my WhatsApp contacts last year on accident.
3. Meeting chicks: In MDE, you can meet chicks anywhere. My recommendation. Stay off Tinder. I heard about the Asian American kid out of California who was drugged and killed last year. People need to be extremely mindful. The best trick to finding cool girls is first getting connected. If you have a friend who visits often, ask him to connect you with friends via facebook. FB is the best spot to meeting cool chicks, having a great time with good chicks, and getting best bang for your buck. ID say no more than $100 for a full 24 hours.
4. Safety: I will share with you what someone shared with me. "In Colombia, people are people are very poor. Someone can hire someone to kill you for $100". So be mindful in Co. No one is out to kill you if you don't do anything wrong. But mess with the wrong people, and there can be trouble found.
5. Party favors: Tussi is the big thing out here. Its expensive. Cocaine is considered the poor mans drug. You can ask a taxi drive to get you some and drop it off. Ill be honest. When I went I was a big stoner. I needed weed after my flight. My taxi driver took me into the hood of Medellin. I mean about 15 minutes away from Poblado into a really dangerous looking area. Right when I got there, I recall a race and chase of guys on motorcycles and cops. My cab driver had me hide and put my head down for a few minutes. We looped around and came back, drug dealer was standing nearby and my driver went in to pickup my goods.
6. Massage places: I'm not a fan. I don't personally find a girl I can have fun and form a connection with then 1 hour of fun.
7. Strip clubs: I am a big fan of La Isla. The girls are beautiful. Imagine Hong Kong in Tijuana, without as many dudes, and more women. Prices are not expensive at all.
8. Other places ot checkout: I highly recommend everyone checkout the bars and restaurants in Laureles. If there is a soccer match, definitely go! Take the trolley ride up. You can go to Comuna 13. You can go to Guatape. MDE has cool places to checkout. There is a sunset spot up the mountain that most people go at night.
I will try to give back more to this forum and others. I have only just got my account. Expect more in the coming weeks. I am asking if people can help guide me for my future Thailand trip please!
Thanks.
Until it does. Make sure you have a backup plan because one day it is going to happen. I have two Schwab cards and they have been declined / blocked multiple times.Yes, I always travel with at least three ATM cards (E-Trade and PayPal) and at least two FOREX fee-free credit cards. I never use the debit cards for purchases, or very very rarely; that might be why I've not had problems.
I actually got 154 USD for 650 K Pesos in BOG.So your talking about going backwards from pesos into dollars??
Obviously you can't do that at an ATM, your best bet would be to save those COPs for a future trip, but if you had excess pesos and wanted dollars then you would have to use an exchange place. That being said that's not a bad rate for going in reverse. I'm sure their rate for going from dollars into pesos is lower and that is when a Davivienda ATM and a cap one or schwab card will come in handy.
BlueChange
10-15-23, 22:56
This is my first time going Halloween time in Medellin. Does anybody knows any Halloween parties event to go to? I'd definitely going to try one of the nights in the Mansion. I've read about some kind of motorcycle Halloween event that will be happening.
Does anybody have info or link on that event?Just go to any of the clubs in lleras. Halloween has gotten much much bigger in the past decade. Before it was soo hard for colombians to source costumes. Now these bitches go crazy!
It really is a great place for Halloween.
Member #4788
10-15-23, 23:27
Just go to any of the clubs in lleras. Halloween has gotten much much bigger in the past decade. Before it was soo hard for colombians to source costumes. Now these bitches go crazy!
It really is a great place for Halloween.I Second Halloween in Medellin. Its a party with so many people walking around in Parque Lleras trying to have fun. I further recommend you try to find the house pool parties.
Nice try buddy. These are current rates as of Friday 10/13. Most money exchange places are offering 3800 to 3900 per dollar while the atms are giving out between 4200 to 4300 per dollar. That's a difference of between 30 mil to 40 mil (about 10%) for each $100 that is exchanged / withdrawn. Adds up fast if one is exchanging $500 usd or more.
Not sure about you, but if I went to Colombia with $5,000 usd I wouldn't want to give away $500 of it to a money exchange kiosk.
Attached is the current rates of money exchange kiosks in various cities in Colombia and at different money exchanges.
Only in Cucuta does the rate apear to be somewhat close to the real exchange rate and none of you are flying in thru Cucuta..For about 3 years now, at the Bogota airport, there has almost always been at least 1 currency exchange place giving very close to what you can get from the ATM (by declining the local conversion). If your bank charges a transaction fee and, or a currency exchange fee, the rate is better than the ATM.
Generally speaking, exchanging currency at the airport is a bad idea. The rates are always terrible. On the same day, in the Bogota airport I was offered 3300,3700, 3850 and 4200 when the rate was 4300.
Seeking Girl wants me to fly her from Australia to Medellin, then to Europe to party with her friends then back to Australia, also wants me to pay for her hotels a total of $6000. I declined she gets upset and calls me broke LOL, she was super friendly before hand.
StudBucket
10-16-23, 03:36
Hey Guys,
I know this is not the thread to discuss Medellin hotels but the Medellin Hotel thread is dead. There have been only like 8 posts in 1 month and lots of crickets in between posts. Nonetheless, was wondering if anyone could recommend hotels with following things:
1) Girl friendly- allow different girls daily at no charge. I am okay with paying for the 2nd girl in the same day as I only do 1 per day.
2) Relatively near Parque Lleras area, not to exceed about 0.5 km or like 10 minute walk max from there.
3) Nice, 4 star rated . Good size rooms.
4) Cost / Budget- Up to about 120 us dollars per night.
I like the Hotel DuParc but rates really shot up to almost 160 per night. I have stayed at the Mansion but found it noisy in the morning, older, and I have plenty of chicas lined up.
I checked the Hotel Dix and its sold out for my dates (week after Thanksgiving).
Thanks,
SB.
My weekend warrior friends have pretty much settled on the the Haven.
Hey Guys,
I know this is not the thread to discuss Medellin hotels but the Medellin Hotel thread is dead. There have been only like 8 posts in 1 month and lots of crickets in between posts. Nonetheless, was wondering if anyone could recommend hotels with following things:
1) Girl friendly- allow different girls daily at no charge. I am okay with paying for the 2nd girl in the same day as I only do 1 per day.
2) Relatively near Parque Lleras area, not to exceed about. 5 km.
3) Nice, 4 star at least. Good size rooms.
4) Cost / Budget- Up to about 120 us dollars per night.
I've used my Schwab card all over the world for twenty years and have never put in a travel alert, and have never had the card declined. YEMV.Yes, brother. Schwab has been remarkable consistent. Over the many years I have had an account with them a decline has never happened. But it is important to always have a plan be. Sometimes a particular ATM will not take the card or rejects it. Sometimes I have to place my cart into the ATM more than once before it takes it. On my last trip a transaction was declined. I was moving around in the USA and I always have problems with my financial institutions (bunch of mother fuckers if you ask me). It took a little time on the phone to figure everything out. My movements had tripped the AI fraud detector even though I had filed my travel notices. After I got off the phone with them, everything has been working fine. Some people take a really negative view of everything.
Now it should be noted that I have had ATMs snatch my card twice. Called Schawb. They had my card to me in two days on their dime. But the first time I had to borrow money from my friends I was with and many of them are the cheapest of the cheep mother fuckers. I like the ones that are generous like I am. But I learned my lesson and keep cash as a back up. Second time it did not phase me at all as now I keep two banks. Banks fucking with my money is the reason I prefer crypto.
Exchange rates are a fact of life for the international traveler. I remember when I first started posting here people were clowning on me because I exchanged money at the airport. Enough to get me my girl waiting to give pussy via a taxi ride. Talk about a bunch of cheep mother fuckers. Damn! My advice is just to make sure you are not being a penny wise and a pound foolish. Calculate how much you are giving up for each transaction. Unless you are moving serious money (sometimes I do and sometimes I don't) it really should not matter to a person who has paid for their passport, a plane ticket, hotel room and lodging for their trip. Hit the gym so you can build the guns that allow you to carry your stack and spend it. Money means nothing in life. Other than what it can get you to improve your life.
First time to Medellin and first time poster. I'm 40 years old from California and my Spanish is not so great. I'm very interested in connecting with some mongers and making some friends as I'll be in Colombia the next 3 to 6 months. I'm a bit nervous due to the reports of people being drugged. First round is on me!
DiscoverFL
10-16-23, 17:36
Hi guys, what other pills is there besides sedenefil? I take it and after one round it goes down. I'm looking for something that keeps it hard for longer and more rounds.Cialis works great too, generic easily available locally. But there is also in addition Privigil Dapoxetine (available in USA by prescription but not in Colombia, or import it from India online) which is to prevent premature ejaculation. Take some Dapoxetine and either Viagra or Cialis and you can go all night. Mfff has never been more fun. No idea why Colombia doesn't have it.
DiscoverFL
10-16-23, 17:50
First time to Medellin and first time poster. I'm 40 years old from California and my Spanish is not so great. I'm very interested in connecting with some mongers and making some friends as I'll be in Colombia the next 3 to 6 months. I'm a bit nervous due to the reports of people being drugged. First round is on me!I definitely recommend hanging some evenings at the Mansion's (Casa Blanca in the forums here) attached bar (nickname La Cueva). It's $50 k COP ($11-12 USD) to enter as a non-guest. The girls come and go in waves, but all have their ID checked and recorded. Meaning it is a very safe environment to meet girls, exchange WhatsApp numbers, and even take one back. It's located here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/CCb6BWogTB37N1tc8. The bar is the door to the left of the main entrance with the stairs (it's a converted garage). The bar is also having their famous annual Halloween party on Friday the 27th, you will need a ticket in advance, which you can get at the club. For that it will be standing room only with girls in all kinds of crazy outfits, prepare yourself to collect dozens of numbers.
Also, if you like beer, I recommend Foxey Pub in the Manila area of Poblado. This pub has 6 different breweries under one roof; each brewery basically runs their own little bar. Great way to try amazing local beers. It's also a really nice relatively safe area to chill and walk around in.
I definitely recommend hanging some evenings at the Mansion's (Casa Blanca in the forums here) attached bar (nickname La Cueva). It's $50 k COP ($11-12 USD) to enter as a non-guest. The girls come and go in waves, but all have their ID checked and recorded. Meaning it is a very safe environment to meet girls, exchange WhatsApp numbers, and even take one back. It's located here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/CCb6BWogTB37N1tc8. The bar is the door to the left of the main entrance with the stairs (it's a converted garage). The bar is also having their famous annual Halloween party on Friday the 27th, you will need a ticket in advance, which you can get at the club. For that it will be standing room only with girls in all kinds of crazy outfits, prepare yourself to collect dozens of numbers.
Also, if you like beer, I recommend Foxey Pub in the Manila area of Poblado. This pub has 6 different breweries under one roof; each brewery basically runs their own little bar. Great way to try amazing local beers. It's also a really nice relatively safe area to chill and walk around in.Awesome! Will be at the Mansion Halloween party on the 27th!
GeorgeCarta22
10-16-23, 20:21
Tough time with facebook.
Ok so with the advice of this group I am avoiding tinder (even though that's what I used for Cartagena contacts).
And have been trying to search girls in skimpy outfits located in Medellin. Problem is none of them are accepting my friend request. Anyone have any other tips?
I did try and friend girls who follow or view "gusto" and "la isla".
ElSexoChino7
10-16-23, 20:44
Hey Guys,
I know this is not the thread to discuss Medellin hotels but the Medellin Hotel thread is dead. There have been only like 8 posts in 1 month and lots of crickets in between posts. Nonetheless, was wondering if anyone could recommend hotels with following things:
1) Girl friendly- allow different girls daily at no charge. I am okay with paying for the 2nd girl in the same day as I only do 1 per day.
2) Relatively near Parque Lleras area, not to exceed about 0.5 km or like 10 minute walk max from there.
3) Nice, 4 star rated . Good size rooms.
4) Cost / Budget- Up to about 120 us dollars per night.
I like the Hotel DuParc but rates really shot up to almost 160 per night. I have stayed at the Mansion but found it noisy in the morning, older, and I have plenty of chicas lined up.
I checked the Hotel Dix and its sold out for my dates (week after Thanksgiving).
Thanks,
SB.LLeras Green Hotel, I've heard good things about this hotel. This is close to your descriptions. Guest friendly. I never stayed here as I prefer guest friendly Airbnb's with security. I was considering on staying at this hotel last year based from the review of a guy from YouTube, but I decided that I don't want to be too close to Parque LLeras.
ElSexoChino7
10-16-23, 20:51
I definitely recommend hanging some evenings at the Mansion's (Casa Blanca in the forums here) attached bar (nickname La Cueva). It's $50 k COP ($11-12 USD) to enter as a non-guest. The girls come and go in waves, but all have their ID checked and recorded. Meaning it is a very safe environment to meet girls, exchange WhatsApp numbers, and even take one back. It's located here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/CCb6BWogTB37N1tc8. The bar is the door to the left of the main entrance with the stairs (it's a converted garage). The bar is also having their famous annual Halloween party on Friday the 27th, you will need a ticket in advance, which you can get at the club. For that it will be standing room only with girls in all kinds of crazy outfits, prepare yourself to collect dozens of numbers.
I'm excited to check this spot. Are all the girls that comes here are working girls? How's the quality of girls? What's the going rate here?
My weekend warrior friends have pretty much settled on the the Haven.What, in particular, have your friends liked about the Haven? I had a girl tell me that she liked to go there with clients, so it must be fairly nice.
Any additional information is welcomed before I book my Thanksgiving week trip, thanks!
BbqMushrooms
10-16-23, 21:50
First time to Medellin and first time poster. I'm 40 years old from California and my Spanish is not so great. I'm very interested in connecting with some mongers and making some friends as I'll be in Colombia the next 3 to 6 months. I'm a bit nervous due to the reports of people being drugged. First round is on me!Hey Mike,
I would buy a subscription so you can private message people and get contact info.
Also, there are a lot of good tips in the reports of distinction to avoid getting drugged, but in general:
- if it's too good to be true, then it's probably a trap.
- that gorgeous woman is not that into you, she's into your bank accounts.
- watch your drink and food at all times.
- don't accept random drinks or drugs.
- don't let the chicas pick the location for the first meet.
- stay at a place with door security. Since you're already here, if you haven't done this, I would just vet the chicas better before bringing them back to your place.
Personally, I also operate on a spare phone and wallet with a card with a small limit or amount. You can even carry a decoy wallet to chuck and run if you're sensing a mugging.
Don't be stupid and you'll be fine!
What does the subscription show up as on the credit card?
What does the subscription show up as on the credit card?Nothing: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/ISG_Payments.php?.
You either pay with bitcoin or cash in an envelope. You can buy bitcoin in a myriad of different ways, I bought some with cashapp, they just recommend not using coinbase.
StudBucket
10-17-23, 05:42
LLeras Green Hotel, I've heard good things about this hotel. This is close to your descriptions. Guest friendly. I never stayed here as I prefer guest friendly Airbnb's with security. I was considering on staying at this hotel last year based from the review of a guy from YouTube, but I decided that I don't want to be too close to Parque LLeras.So I am actually familiar with this hotel as I asked the people at the front desk to show me 2 rooms there while on a trip. The one thing I can say is that the rooms that I saw did not have a single window so they felt cold and weird. I would not have minded even looking out to another building but to have no windows on a long trip would bother me so I ruled it out. The rooms were just okay, and were of a 3 star type. But it serves as a good backup if one is looking for cheaper rooms near Parque Lleras. The Arte Hotel has better rooms but they have a more industrial/cold feel also but they do have windows which let light in but the view is of a building only.
StudBucket
10-17-23, 06:05
My weekend warrior friends have pretty much settled on the the Haven.Hi Knowledge, rooms like nice here and I actually asked for a tour in this hotel as well the last trip. The hotel checks all boxes except for the fact that you get very small rooms. The rooms are only 170-200 sf and are all 120 -180 per night us. So you get small room, albeit it modern and nice, for a higher price. Just my take. Medellin is tough on the hotel situation and has gotten worse since the dollar devalued against the peso.
BbqMushrooms
10-17-23, 06:21
What does the subscription show up as on the credit card?It shows up as "I'm a huge pervert, I've married a woman I despise, and now I'm looking for hookers in Colombia, LLC".
There’s literally a banner on every page telling you how to get a subscription. If you get stuck, search the whole forum for “bitcoin” to get some hints. Not asking for much here just the bare minimum amount of initiative.
What does the subscription show up as on the credit card?I think you use credit card to buy bitcoin and use the purchased bitcoin to pay for membership.
I don't know much about hotels in Medellin. Unless they rent by the hour LOL!. I've never entered the Haven so all my information is second hand. I will say that small spaces are not unusual in Medellin. There are businessman hotels a little farther away from Lleras and la 10 but they are going to limit your visitor count.
Hi Knowledge, rooms like nice here and I actually asked for a tour in this hotel as well the last trip. The hotel checks all boxes except for the fact that you get very small rooms. The rooms are only 170-200 sf and are all 120 -180 per night us. So you get small room, albeit it modern and nice, for a higher price. Just my take. Medellin is tough on the hotel situation and has gotten worse since the dollar devalued against the peso.
Hi Knowledge, rooms like nice here and I actually asked for a tour in this hotel as well the last trip. The hotel checks all boxes except for the fact that you get very small rooms. The rooms are only 170-200 sf and are all 120 -180 per night us. So you get small room, albeit it modern and nice, for a higher price. Just my take. Medellin is tough on the hotel situation and has gotten worse since the dollar devalued against the peso.Energy living will check all of your boxes.
They like the location and consider it just below a Hilton or Marriott but costs slightly more. Overall they like it because they don't get hassled about bringing in girls the way they used to at the Dann Carlton and the Four Points. All the questions are making more curious to see the rooms so I'm going to check it out when they are here next time.
What, in particular, have your friends liked about the Haven? I had a girl tell me that she liked to go there with clients, so it must be fairly nice.
Any additional information is welcomed before I book my Thanksgiving week trip, thanks!
First time to Medellin and first time poster. I'm 40 years old from California and my Spanish is not so great. I'm very interested in connecting with some mongers and making some friends as I'll be in Colombia the next 3 to 6 months. I'm a bit nervous due to the reports of people being drugged. First round is on me!Tried DMing you but seems it's disabled for you. Will be in Medellin for first 2 weeks of Nov, technically my second trip but my first was only 2 months ago. Feel free to connect privately.
Hi Knowledge, rooms like nice here and I actually asked for a tour in this hotel as well the last trip. The hotel checks all boxes except for the fact that you get very small rooms. The rooms are only 170-200 sf and are all 120 -180 per night us. So you get small room, albeit it modern and nice, for a higher price. Just my take. Medellin is tough on the hotel situation and has gotten worse since the dollar devalued against the peso.You might want to re-check the pricing. I will be back in Medellin in early December for a little over a week, and the pricing for those small rooms (which I agree are tight) works out to under $80 a night. You can get a room with a living area (couch / chair) for under $100 a night which I found to be comfortable even during a 3 week stay. Of course, there are other options there which cost more (balconies, jacuzzis, multiple rooms) - but I found the location to be perfect for me (very close to Provenza and Lleras, but just far enough away from the action to be relatively quiet) and the hotel clean and modern. Of course, the dates you'll be staying there also matters for pricing. The breakfast sucks, though.
LLeras Green Hotel, I've heard good things about this hotel. This is close to your descriptions. Guest friendly. I never stayed here as I prefer guest friendly Airbnb's with security. I was considering on staying at this hotel last year based from the review of a guy from YouTube, but I decided that I don't want to be too close to Parque LLeras.I have stayed there a couple of times. It is inexpensive for the area and safe. They do allow guests but there is a fee, I believe $10-20 but don't hold me to that. The rooms are indeed small and it is a no frills hotel. If you want to spend time in the room, it is not for you. If it is a place to sleep, shower, s* and shave, with guests when you want it, it serves the purpose. DuPark next door is nicer and has a great breakfast, but their price has doubled from the time I first stayed there 2 years ago. Lleras Green cannot be closer to the action, so convenient. It is pretty noisy, so if you want to sleep before 3 am, bring ear plugs and noise cancelling headsets. Hope this helps.
Happy hunting.
Snook.
I'm excited to check this spot. Are all the girls that comes here are working girls? How's the quality of girls? What's the going rate here?Yes, all the girls are working girls. Quality is pretty good, lots of 6-7's who will almost always show you a good, safe, time as they don't want to get barred. Price is def negotiable but 250 cop is a normal rate.
Here's a summary of my trip in August 2023.
I'm a total newbie in Medellin and my Spanish was virtually non-existent. I could get by in a restaurant but that's pretty much it.
Prior to coming to Medellin I read the forum and my main take away was the fact that I had build a new FB profile and line up FB girls ahead of time. I spent about 2 months finding girls on FB and got to about 120 contacts. I did not contact any of them before landing in Medellin.
Arrival and getting around
Since Uber is not officially allowed, I opted to get a taxi from the taxi area.
I asked the driver about the price but don't remember what he actually said.
Upon arrival to my destination he said 100 k. I thought it would be 75 k as was suggested elsewhere but I wasn't going to argue with him. I didn't have cash so opted to pay by card.
Taxi drivers have this portable card machine. The one my driver used didn't connect well. It took us 6-7 attempts before my transaction went through.
Tip: Often times when you pay by debit card they will ask you which account to use 'Ahorros' is for Savings and 'Corrientes' is for current account. Often times it doesn't matter what you choose but sometimes it does (as was the case with my taxi driver's machine).
Once in the city. I was Ubering pretty much everywhere. In my experience getting the non-taxi Ubers (inside the app you have a choice) was more reliable. Waiting times were shorter and they didn't cancel on me. In Medellin you should just get into the front seat straight away, some drivers don't mind you sitting in the back but sometimes they'll ask you to sit in the front. Also most of the Ubers I took had the seats adjusted for the front seat.
Massage places
I used to be a massage guy for various reasons and I still like to mix in body to body massages when I travel.
I found 2 places in El Poblado with decent ratings just by searching on Google Maps. I find that reviews are somewhat trustworthy and indicative of the services provided.
First I tried Happy Massage. Messaged them on WhatsApp and they provided the price list along with the catalog of girls. Unfortunately there are no faces in the material you receive.
They have different types of massages ranging from normal with happy ending to body to body. Some include 2 finishes, some don't. But there's a clearly stated price in case you want 2nd finish with a massage that doesn't normally include it.
The line up was very decent. I tried 3 different massages with 3 different girls. Most were quite dark skinned, but there was also one lady with lighter skin.
I believe prices were in the range of 200-350 k.
Tip: I decided to try their most expensive option. The one that includes Pandora's box, thinking that maybe that includes things beyond hand relief, but it didn't (at least I my case). With Pandora's box the masseuse lets you choose one card which describes some kind of activity. I think I got a pretty lame one. Basically the girl would take a flashlight and guide your hand with it. I. e. You are touching where she is pointing. I have no idea what's on the other cards. Maybe I'll ask next time I visit.
I also didn't ask if there were any extras. While the masseuses were attractive 2 out of 3 did not give out GFE vibes, so I think it wouldn't have been good value for money anyway.
The massages were ok. Nothing to write home about, but they do focus on your erogenous zones sufficiently. YMMV with different masseuses though.
On one occasion I tried to check the full line up in person. But other girls weren't available, only the older lady. Which wasn't my type.
I'd give Happy Massage 4. 5/5 overall. It's pricey but I did enjoy my time there and the girls were hot.
Esperanza Massage.
This place seems much cheaper. I think I paid 150 k for topless B2 be. Similar to Happy Massage they send you catalog of girls and prices via WhatsApp. I did get to see the line up. There were about 6 girls I think. None were my type to be honest, but one girl had a really nice booty so I went with her. Didn't ask for availability of BJ / FS.
Mileroticos
Decided to try Mileroticos - 2 ads caught my eye. One masseuse and one independent.
The masseuse.
Price was cheapest I encountered to date - 120 k for B2 be. Place was in Laureles. In a residential area. Found the door and rang the bell. Door was opened by the girl in the ad. She looked just as good in person as she did in the ad. A 19 year old Colombiana, slightly curvier than I like but still very attractive with great proportions. She was dressed in a masseuse uniform. Turns out it was some sort of a casa. Because she asked me who I was there to see.
Massage wasn't great and wasn't that sensual but upon turning over she asked me how I wanted to finish. The choices were oral and FS. I didn't actually understand fully what she was saying and just kept nodding, thus choosing FS for 100 k extra. So total damage was around 220 k.
The girl was very friendly but the room really smelled of man-juice, which was putting me off.
I'd give this girl 7. 5/10. Happy with experience and might even return back to marvel at her booty in doggy position.
The independent.
Similar to the masseuse girl. Got the address in Laureles area by WhatsApp. I show up, knock on door, the door is opened by chubby lady. I say I want to see X (the girl from ad) - she says X is not available and asks if I want to see another girl. I say no and leave. The reason I left promptly is because in the 'reception area' there were 6 dudes sitting on couch staring at me having a conversation in my broken Spanish with that lady. They didn't look like tourists either. I didn't feel like sticking around, so left. But then I get another message on WhatsApp from X asking if I already left. I said no and she said to come back.
At this point there were several red flags and I should've just gone elsewhere at that point. Red flag 1: the girl was not independent, it was a casa. Red flag 2: they tried to bait and switch. Red flag 3: there are sketchy dudes on the couch.
I don't know what I was thinking but I went back. I think it's because the girl looked insanely hot on the ad and I thought it's worth taking a chance. When I get back, X opens the door. The lighting was not very good, I could recognise her but wasn't sure if she's a looker or not. She also had a long dress which covered most of her body. So I proceed inside and agree on the time / price. I think it was around 150-200 k. She takes her dress off and I know I made a mistake by coming back but it's too late to back out. It was a total waste of time and money.
I give this girl 4/10. Looks wise she is probably a 5 or a 6, but service was terrible.
Parque Lleras and Calle 10
This is where a lot of the street walkers are. At night, girls don't just congregate in Parque Lleras. They are all along Calle 10 from Parque Lleras pretty much all the way to Provenza (the area with restraunts).
There are 2 things to note:
1) Entry from Calle 10 to Prague Lleras and adjacent areas is controlled by security / police. You'll see metal fence thingies barricading the entrances, leaving just narrow gaps for entry and exit. Some girls get their IDs checked. I think they also check some bags.
2) There's a lot of police around this area at night. Yet you still get some dudes trying to sell you coke as you walk around.
It's a bit weird to see working girls standing right next to the police. For the first few days this was putting me off from getting numbers from girls, but it seems to be pretty normal here.
I got a total of 3 numbers from street girls.
One quoted 100 dollars. I did not continue conversation. One quoted 300 k and another one 350 k (not including taxis).
I decided to session with the one who quoted 350 k. I really liked her look when I saw her on the street. Very pretty face and nice ass. It was the worst punt of my entire trip.
Her boobs sagged a lot and weren't pleasant to look at. But worst of all she had some skin issues. I couldn't see it before because of what she was wearing.
I know people say that you shouldn't pay upfront, in the past I've had plenty of experiences where I paid upfront and had a good time, so I didn't think much of it.
By the time I saw her naked I already gave her the money and I didn't think there was a way for me to get it back.
The girl was 21 (I think), had a son, was generally pleasant to talk to. I just wish I could meet her 2 years earlier before she had a baby. For some reason I kept thinking about this girl from time to time afterwards, I just felt sorry for her situation. Because of that. I didn't care much for money I gave her.
Ibiza Motel (Itagui branch)
I decided to use Ibiza Motel for all of my punts. My thinking was that it's safer this way and I could save some money by not staying in some overpriced hotel in El Poblado.
I really didn't know how motels worked in Medellin, so here's a guide I wish I had:
1. You don't need to book in advance. You just show up and get the room on the spot. They have different types. I opted for 'Premium' which is 120 k. You can book advance, but it's mostly for special occasions when you want to order some custom decorations etc. Locals would use it for anniversaries etc.
2. When you get to the motel there's an intercom that you use to speak to the 'receptionist' but in practice there's also someone outside. If it's in the evening. It's probably the security guard, but if you are there earlier in the day. There's some sort of a 'maid'. Most of the time I'd just tell them that I want Premium and then they'd talk to someone inside. Once the room is allocated they tell you the number of the room. Rooms are along a long passage. There's a digital sign next to each door which lights up when the room is allocated, so you are able to see where to go.
3. The doors to the rooms are controlled by the reception. They open the doors when someone arrives or after you've paid and ready to leave. For most rooms there's a set of stairs you have to climb to get into the actual room. The doors don't open into the rooms directly, they lead you to the stairs bit.
4. Aircon and jacuzzi are disabled by default. There's a phone in the room. You can ring reception to ask them to turn on either.
5. You get a phone call from the reception when a guest arrives. The inform you of the arrival and ask for confirmation. Once you confirm they let the guest through and open the door.
6. For some reason I couldn't just let my guest out and stay in the room myself after we were done. I tried a few times in my broken Spanish but had no luck. So I had to always leave with the girl at the same time.
7. When you are ready to leave. You call the reception and tell them that you want to pay and leave. In your room. There's a fridge. On the other side of the fridge is actually the space where all the maids are. So once they know that you are ready to leave. They open the fridge from the other side and check what you've used.
Once they've calculated your total they will knock from the other side of the wall where fridge is. There's a compartment above the fridge. You open that and talk to the person on the other side. They show you the bill and you are able to pay. I always paid by card.
Once you've paid. The doors downstairs are opened and you can leave. The moment you leave the room. Maids enter the room and check the room. As you walk out the security guard would normally stop me and ask to wait until the maids confirm that everything is in order. Until the guards gets a confirmation he'd keep you there. They also have a waiting area where you can wait for taxis.
8. Room is given to you for up to 6 hours, after which they start charging extra. There are also limits on how many people can be in the room depending on the room you booked. I believe Premium is for 2 people, but you can get a third one in if you pay extra.
FB girls
FB girls were the highlight of the trip.
I am not going to describe each encounter, I'll just summarise as follows:
- Out of 5 girls, only 1 didn't provide GFE (but she had the best ass).
- Looks / body wise they were 7. 5-9's for me.
- As far as I remember. Ages were 18/19/19/21/23.
- 2 didn't want to use condoms and in the heat of the moment I went along with it (never done this before. Ever). 1 of them didn't let me pull out. She was on top.
- Prices were 250 k-350 k + 50 k for taxis.
- I did encounter a fair few scam profiles. In 2 cases I found out they were scammers pretty late in the process. 1 I was able to spot just before arranging for meet up. They used photos of some OF model that I was able to reverse image search eventually (had to try each photo). 1 was indistinguishable from a real profile (I. E. I met up with another real FB girl who had a very similar profile). I don't know what they wanted but they played along all the way through arranging a meet up and even saying they are ready to catch a taxi. Then nothing. Fortunately someone else was available at last minute, so it was fine.
I'm coming back to Medellin in a few weeks and planning to repeat all of my FB girls and try to find a few more.
If anyone wants to exchange contacts for FB girls. DM me, but please be aware I'm very picky and don't get mad if I decline your offers. Also, obviously I can only vouch for my experiences. Your mileage may vary.
I'll attach screenshots of FB girls I mentioned above. If you are able to find them through the images. Go for it. You earned it. And I'll be happy to share their contacts in DMs after my trip in November.
I'm too lazy to proof read my post. Hope at least some of it is readable and useful to somebody.
(I'll be in Medellin again in first 2 weeks of November. DM me if you want to meet up.).
StudBucket
10-18-23, 05:45
You might want to re-check the pricing. I will be back in Medellin in early December for a little over a week, and the pricing for those small rooms (which I agree are tight) works out to under $80 a night. You can get a room with a living area (couch / chair) for under $100 a night which I found to be comfortable even during a 3 week stay. Of course, there are other options there which cost more (balconies, jacuzzis, multiple rooms) - but I found the location to be perfect for me (very close to Provenza and Lleras, but just far enough away from the action to be relatively quiet) and the hotel clean and modern. Of course, the dates you'll be staying there also matters for pricing. The breakfast sucks, though.Hey there JC. I rechecked several dates via end of November and December and found that the least expesive room is about 110 per night, not 80 dollars. But, I do find that price to be not so bad for the quality of the hotel. I was able to actually get a room for about 120 at DuParc and got a free upgrade as I have stayed there before several times so it worked out. Thanks.
LoveItHere
10-18-23, 06:55
Hey there JC. I rechecked several dates via end of November and December and found that the least expesive room is about 110 per night, not 80 dollars.The prices change daily like flights do. Not nearly as much. I wanted a certain hotel near a disco in a small town that first listed $18, then $20, then hit $33, now back down to $19. All in a 7 day time frame.
Hey there JC. I rechecked several dates via end of November and December and found that the least expesive room is about 110 per night, not 80 dollars. But, I do find that price to be not so bad for the quality of the hotel. I was able to actually get a room for about 120 at DuParc and got a free upgrade as I have stayed there before several times so it worked out. Thanks.Must be the dates, as I saw the same prices I quoted to you this morning. $94 a night (on average) for an 8-night say from Dec. 5th to 13th for the Marquesses (which is a suite, no balcony). But $113 a night if just on the weekend. Smallest rooms are roughly $20 less in both instances. Doesn't include the VAT, but I don't believe that apples to foreigners (and the site says it does not, but I could be misinterpreting). But anyway, I'm not trying to be their shill. Duparc looks nice. I just personally find access to the the types of atmosphere I prefer (restaurants, cafes, bars) to be better where Haven is (although I'm also going to consider Click Clack this time around. But that is more expensive and I believe you have to pay for visitors). I'm so looking forward to getting back down there.
Iguana Six
10-18-23, 14:16
Background:
Favorita I have known 14+ years got a butt augmentation almost a decade ago. Now, it is going bad. She tells me the surgeon wants COP 40 million to remove the polymers, keep them from migrating, and hide the suture scars in the butt crack.
Questions:
Granted, the procedure would involve a hospital surgical suite, an hour or more under anesthesia, etc. , but is this the going rate down there?
Is it normal that surgeons would not accept credit cards for procedures?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpoiH38KVc
Here's a summary of my trip in August 2023.
I'm a total newbie in Medellin and my Spanish was virtually non-existent. I could get by in a restaurant but that's pretty much it.
Prior to coming to Medellin I read the forum and my main take away was the fact that I had build a new FB profile and line up FB girls ahead of time. I spent about 2 months finding girls on FB and got
to about 120 contacts. I did not contact any of them before landing in Medellin.I dislike FB so much that I haven't used it in probably 10 years, but with this report, I might have to reconsider that opinion!
Thanks for this!
Background:
Favorita I have known 14+ years got a butt augmentation almost a decade ago. Now, it is going bad. She tells me the surgeon wants COP 40 million to remove the polymers, keep them from migrating, and hide the suture scars in the butt crack.
Questions:
Granted, the procedure would involve a hospital surgical suite, an hour or more under anesthesia, etc. , but is this the going rate down there?
Is it normal that surgeons would not accept credit cards for procedures?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpoiH38KVcRegardless of whether or not that is the going rate (which it probably isn't) you would be the biggest simp of 2023 if you sent that kind of money to her. It would be much cheaper to just block her and let natural selection run its course. But hey it's your money, go ahead and simp it off.
Doesn't include the VAT, but I don't believe that apples to foreigners (and the site says it does not, but I could be misinterpreting).Tourists (travelers who stay 180 days or less in one calendar year) are not supposed to have to pay the VAT tax. The one and only time I stayed at the Mansion, they charged a VAT tax and would not take it off even after I questioned it. They claimed the exemption only applies to new hotels, which is pure BS.
DiscoverFL
10-18-23, 18:30
Background:
Favorita I have known 14+ years got a butt augmentation almost a decade ago. Now, it is going bad. She tells me the surgeon wants COP 40 million to remove the polymers, keep them from migrating, and hide the suture scars in the butt crack.
Questions:
Granted, the procedure would involve a hospital surgical suite, an hour or more under anesthesia, etc. , but is this the going rate down there?
Is it normal that surgeons would not accept credit cards for procedures?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpoiH38KVc$9,500 USD? That's more than a US doctor & hospital would charge for implant removal.
Background:
Favorita I have known 14+ years got a butt augmentation almost a decade ago. Now, it is going bad. She tells me the surgeon wants COP 40 million to remove the polymers, keep them from migrating, and hide the suture scars in the butt crack.
Questions:
Granted, the procedure would involve a hospital surgical suite, an hour or more under anesthesia, etc. , but is this the going rate down there?
Is it normal that surgeons would not accept credit cards for procedures?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bpoiH38KVcWow that's fucking ridiculous, maybe 10 million COP.
My suggestion would be to have your "favorita" supply you with the Doctor's quote, and as far credit cards, yes most accept them but a lot also prefer electronic transfers into their bank accounts.
Hopefully she will have a nice ass to grab when the procedure is done and she has healed. LOL.
DiscoverFL
10-18-23, 18:39
Here's a summary of my trip in August 2023.
Arrival and getting around
Since Uber is not officially allowed, I opted to get a taxi from the taxi area.
I asked the driver about the price but don't remember what he actually said.
Upon arrival to my destination he said 100 k. I thought it would be 75 k as was suggested elsewhere but I wasn't going to argue with him. I didn't have cash so opted to pay by card.
As stated in this forum many times, the current white taxi rate to the city from the airport is $98 k COP, which everyone rounds up to $100 k. Some users have reported that late night arrivals can get hustled to $120 K COP, but that could be a confidence / approach issue. It is posted in a big sign where you pick up your luggage and also at the airport's website: https://www.aeropuertorionegro.co/web/page/72/C%C3%B3mo-llegar.
DiscoverFL
10-18-23, 18:47
Tourists (travelers who stay 180 days or less in one calendar year) are not supposed to have to pay the VAT tax. The one and only time I stayed at the Mansion, they charged a VAT tax and would not take it off even after I questioned it. They claimed the exemption only applies to new hotels, which is pure BS.When this happens to you, you can just fill out a form at exit and the government will refund you the VAT tax. This is the main reason the hotel collects and copies your passport and entry stamp, legal evidence as to why they did not collect VAT tax. This applies to almost every country in the world. Avianca has a page specific to Colombia on the process: https://www.avianca.com/co/en/before-your-trip/travel-documentation/statement-and-sales-tax-refund/.
When this happens to you, you can just fill out a form at exit and the government will refund you the VAT tax. Only if you paid with a credit or debit card, and you still may not get it. My neighbor filed the papers at the airport more than three years ago for taxes the hotel and other miscellaneous places charged. She still hasn't received a refund, nor any communication from the tax department.
As stated in this forum many times, the current white taxi rate to the city from the airport is $98 k COP, which everyone rounds up to $100 k. Some users have reported that late night arrivals can get hustled to $120 K COP, but that could be a confidence / approach issue. It is posted in a big sign where you pick up your luggage and also at the airport's website: https://www.aeropuertorionegro.co/web/page/72/C%C3%B3mo-llegar.What happens late at night if there is only one white taxi available, or only a few, some will ask for more then the posted rate as you mentioned and will blow you off if you don't take it, so in some instances doesn't matter how you approach them.
I arrived one night around 2 PM and a white taxi driver said 110 K, and since he was the only driver available, and I was wasted from flying so long I just said okay fuck it let's go.
I didn't want to screw around over about $ 2 USD at 2 AM in the morning and just wanted to climb in the sack.
If there had been more than one taxi driver available I might have raised hell, but sometimes they will all try to hose you as this happens a lot with the yellow taxis like in and around Zona Rosa and at the Poblado Metro station if there is a shortage of taxis, especially if your a foreigner, and a Friday or Saturday night.
I Just recently got in a yellow cab at the Poblado Metro Station, and was headed up towards the Tesoro area and the driver gave me a fixed price when I asked him to turn on the meter so I just got out of the cab and found another one. If you are able to pick up a yellow taxi at a designated pick up spot for them, like at EXITO in Pobaldo, they won't try to pull a stunt like that.
This past Monday I had a flight out of Medellin and reserved a pick up in Poblado, with the same white taxi company that works out of Rio Negro and the posted rate on their website for pick up from Medellin to Rio Negro was only 90 K, and they were very punctual.
And as far as the posted rate of 98 K well as some may not be aware of, that's the posted rate from portions of Medellin like Poblado posted in all the yellow taxis.
And sometimes at the airport when there are no taxis available that sometimes occurs during the day, you will have to wait for one to show up and will be paying 98 K but again have to wait a awhile so you can always go to the departure level and look for someone being dropped off and snag a ride.
I have only had to do this on one occasion, and as an example, if it's a yellow taxi they will be happy to take you because they are not licensed to pick up passengers at the airport so they just return to the City as the 98 K fare actually includes the toll fare both ways.
What happens late at night if there is only one white taxi available, or only a few, some will ask for more then the posted rate as you mentioned and will blow you off if you don't take it, so in some instances doesn't matter how you approach them.
I arrived one night around 2 PM and a white taxi driver said 110 K, and since he was the only driver available, and I was wasted from flying so long I just said okay fuck it let's go.
I didn't want to screw around over about $ 2 USD at 2 AM in the morning and just wanted to climb in the sack.Your experiences at the airport mirror mine. I consistently arrive late due to the airline schedule. Have the same problem with the hustle. I am not going to going to fuck around over a few dollars. I am long past worrying about that in order to facilitate my personal comfort.
Mr Enternational
10-19-23, 02:19
Favorita I have known 14+ years got a butt augmentation almost a decade ago. Now, it is going bad. She tells me the surgeon wants COP 40 millionYou ask too many questions man. Just pay it.
GeorgeCarta22
10-19-23, 14:38
FB girls
FB girls were the highlight of the trip.
I am not going to describe each encounter, I'll just summarise as follows:
- Out of 5 girls, only 1 didn't provide GFE (but she had the best ass).
- Looks / body wise they were 7. 5-9's for me.
- As far as I remember. Ages were 18/19/19/21/23.
- 2 didn't want to use condoms and in the heat of the moment I went along with it (never done this before. Ever). 1 of them didn't let me pull out. She was on top.
- Prices were 250 k-350 k + 50 k for taxis.
- I did encounter a fair few scam profiles. In 2 cases I found out they were scammers pretty late in the process. 1 I was able to spot just before arranging for meet up. They used photos of some OF model that I was able to reverse image search eventually (had to try each photo). 1 was indistinguishable from a real profile (I. E. I met up with another real FB girl who had a very similar profile). I don't know what they wanted but they played along all the way through arranging a meet up and even saying they are ready to catch a taxi. Then nothing. Fortunately someone else was available at last minute, so it was fine.
I'm coming back to Medellin in a few weeks and planning to repeat all of my FB girls and try to find a few more.
If anyone wants to exchange contacts for FB girls. DM me, but please be aware I'm very picky and don't get mad if I decline your offers. Also, obviously I can only vouch for my experiences. Your mileage may vary.
I'll attach screenshots of FB girls I mentioned above. If you are able to find them through the images. Go for it. You earned it. And I'll be happy to share their contacts in DMs after my trip in November.
I'm too lazy to proof read my post. Hope at least some of it is readable and useful to somebody.
(I'll be in Medellin again in first 2 weeks of November. DM me if you want to meet up.).Damn man I've been having a lot of trouble matching with girls like this forum said.
I'm friending anyone and everyone in Medellin area and just typing random names and changing the city to Medellin.
Maybe it's because I made a new account recently and didn't post my actually face? I dno.
What's weird is I'm having more success with instagram looking for girls.
I'm going to have to buy a membership again and DM you for those girls info ugh.
BbqMushrooms
10-19-23, 17:57
Maybe it's because I made a new account recently and didn't post my actually face? I dno.
What's weird is I'm having more success with instagram looking for girls.
Exactly. I find when my photo is even an obscure picture of my face (can't truly tell it's me), more girls accept my friendship requests.
Also, post a few public things so that someone looking at your page still gets a sense of who you are. Your humor, your interests, etc.
I have a feeling that instagram is the way to go these days. I haven't had an issue connecting with chicas on Facebook, but something is telling me it would be easier to connect with younger women on that platform. Since it's a younger person's app. But maybe because Colombia has lots of older gringos coming who use Facebook chicas have adapted to that to connect. Then because the chicas are there, more mongers show up and it's a self reinforcing cycle.
Can we crowdfund a documentary into the use of social media for hoeing around Colombia? Who were the pioneers? Key moments? How Facebook policy changes affected the market?
Exactly. I find when my photo is even an obscure picture of my face (can't truly tell it's me), more girls accept my friendship requests.
Also, post a few public things so that someone looking at your page still gets a sense of who you are. Your humor, your interests, etc.
I have a feeling that instagram is the way to go these days. I haven't had an issue connecting with chicas on Facebook, but something is telling me it would be easier to connect with younger women on that platform. Since it's a younger person's app. But maybe because Colombia has lots of older gringos coming who use Facebook chicas have adapted to that to connect. Then because the chicas are there, more mongers show up and it's a self reinforcing cycle.
Can we crowdfund a documentary into the use of social media for hoeing around Colombia? Who were the pioneers? Key moments? How Facebook policy changes affected the market?Maybe the fact that more girls accept your friend request when they can't actual see your face as opposed to seeing your face is more a reflection of how you look. Ja ja ja.
Older gringos actually don't use Facebook very much. Rather, older gringos go on Facebook because girls in Medellin are on Facebook. Girls were on FB first and that is why gringos go searching there.
Many girls on FB are also on Instragram or you might say many girls on Instragram often have a FB profile.
I think your cause and effect analysis may be slightly off.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100080044435168&mibextid=LQQJ4d
Facebook scam account. Pretends to be a girl. They say they live like 4 hours away from Medellin but they want to meet. Just send the taxi money. Which it should be 600 k but they ask for 74 mil. When you ask them to send a picture a certain way to prove it actually them they don't. When you ask to call them on video they make up an excuse. They did share the location live and it was where they told me. But without a video call can't prove anything which they won't do.
Don't send money guys becareful out there.
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100080044435168&mibextid=LQQJ4d
Facebook scam account. Pretends to be a girl. They say they live like 4 hours away from Medellin but they want to meet. Just send the taxi money. Which it should be 600 k but they ask for 74 mil. When you ask them to send a picture a certain way to prove it actually them they don't. When you ask to call them on video they make up an excuse. They did share the location live and it was where they told me. But without a video call can't prove anything which they won't do.
Don't send money guys becareful out there.That's one of the most obviously fake accounts I've seen to be honest LOL. There are multiple different pics of chics (one that is legit and I've met) as well as pics of Jessica Rabbit who is a somewhat famous IG'er and pornstar from Barranquilla. You can do a reverse image search if you want to do a quick check on an account's authenticity.
Exactly. I find when my photo is even an obscure picture of my face (can't truly tell it's me), more girls accept my friendship requests.
Also, post a few public things so that someone looking at your page still gets a sense of who you are. Your humor, your interests, etc.
I have a feeling that instagram is the way to go these days. I haven't had an issue connecting with chicas on Facebook, but something is telling me it would be easier to connect with younger women on that platform. Since it's a younger person's app. But maybe because Colombia has lots of older gringos coming who use Facebook chicas have adapted to that to connect. Then because the chicas are there, more mongers show up and it's a self reinforcing cycle.
Can we crowdfund a documentary into the use of social media for hoeing around Colombia? Who were the pioneers? Key moments? How Facebook policy changes affected the market?I have faux accounts for FB and IG although I do use real pics. I've had quite good success. IG takes a little longer and more prima donnas, but you can find some real lookers. I find they typically want more than the FB girls by 100 k or so premium, but some of them will go out with you simply to have a nice dinner at a fashionable place. I've had some freebies.
This is my process for online.
1. Filter every girl that is ugly.
2. Message the handful of decent girls.
The hot girls either don't answer or they are just an agency where the girl doesn't work anymore and there's only a few ugly girls. (The tried circumnavigating my step 1) or they're yea I would love to show up to your house just send me money first. Anyone asking for money is a scammer. Even if it's for the taxi. And some might be legit but I would never know because I can't send money in Colombia maybe remitly works. Either way, I'the rather be on the safe side and just label them as scammers. The vast multitude of only girls are ugly tho.
Face book is filled with scammers, bimbos selling pics, and girls I wouldn't go out with. The handful that would go out with me I asked to video call one before a date because they started asking for money for un "un helado" I said after you video call me I'll send it. They video call me and the room is mad dark. She's like I'm in "university ". My booty. So dark but it didn't seem like the girl in the photos.
So yea Medellin online sucks. And Medellin in general seems to be bad as well. At least quality per cost. There are a bunch of girls online and in person but they are all ugly.
Lleras girls are just centro girls. Centro girls are not that good looking I've heard. I want to fantasias energy and it was bad so other casas might be the same. There are only 2 or 3 girls I would do in la isla. Don't feel like negotiating in gustos. I still have to try Loutron again.
Just going to stick to la isla, Loutron if it's good and venture out to Luna lunera and fase dos to see if it's good. Otherwise peace out Medellin.
This is my process for online.
1. Filter every girl that is ugly.
2. Message the handful of decent girls.
The hot girls either don't answer or they are just an agency where the girl doesn't work anymore and there's only a few ugly girls. (The tried circumnavigating my step 1) or they're yea I would love to show up to your house just send me money first. Anyone asking for money is a scammer. Even if it's for the taxi. And some might be legit but I would never know because I can't send money in Colombia maybe remitly works. Either way, I'the rather be on the safe side and just label them as scammers. The vast multitude of only girls are ugly tho.
Face book is filled with scammers, bimbos selling pics, and girls I wouldn't go out with. The handful that would go out with me I asked to video call one before a date because they started asking for money for un "un helado" I said after you video call me I'll send it. They video call me and the room is mad dark. She's like I'm in "university ". My booty. So dark but it didn't seem like the girl in the photos.
So yea Medellin online sucks. And Medellin in general seems to be bad as well. At least quality per cost. There are a bunch of girls online and in person but they are all ugly.
Lleras girls are just centro girls. Centro girls are not that good looking I've heard. I want to fantasias energy and it was bad so other casas might be the same. There are only 2 or 3 girls I would do in la isla. Don't feel like negotiating in gustos. I still have to try Loutron again.
Just going to stick to la isla, Loutron if it's good and venture out to Luna lunera and fase dos to see if it's good. Otherwise peace out Medellin.I haven't have the same experience with Facebook girls in Medellin but I have been focused exclusively on Facebook girls for six trips now. With some time and effort, you can avoid the scammers and unattractive girls. There are a number of young attractive girls available on Facebook for a reasonable price. You just have to take the time to screen the girls and find the good ones. I would agree if you don't have the time before your trip, don't go on Facebook looking for girls. You do have to pay for transport because they tend to live in Bello but you can pay for the taxi when it arrives at your place and not in advance. So far no girl has not looked like their pictures on their FB profile. I have been impressed with with the quality of the girls that I have found on FB and their performance in bed. But to each, his own and you should do what you think is right for you.
This is my process for online.
1. Filter every girl that is ugly.
2. Message the handful of decent girls.
The hot girls either don't answer or they are just an agency where the girl doesn't work anymore and there's only a few ugly girls. (The tried circumnavigating my step 1) or they're yea I would love to show up to your house just send me money first. Anyone asking for money is a scammer. Even if it's for the taxi. And some might be legit but I would never know because I can't send money in Colombia maybe remitly works. Either way, I'the rather be on the safe side and just label them as scammers. The vast multitude of only girls are ugly tho.
Face book is filled with scammers, bimbos selling pics, and girls I wouldn't go out with. The handful that would go out with me I asked to video call one before a date because they started asking for money for un "un helado" I said after you video call me I'll send it. They video call me and the room is mad dark. She's like I'm in "university ". My booty. So dark but it didn't seem like the girl in the photos.
So yea Medellin online sucks. And Medellin in general seems to be bad as well. At least quality per cost. There are a bunch of girls online and in person but they are all ugly.
Lleras girls are just centro girls. Centro girls are not that good looking I've heard. I want to fantasias energy and it was bad so other casas might be the same. There are only 2 or 3 girls I would do in la isla. Don't feel like negotiating in gustos. I still have to try Loutron again.
Just going to stick to la isla, Loutron if it's good and venture out to Luna lunera and fase dos to see if it's good. Otherwise peace out Medellin.Unfortunately, this is the reality. Most of the hot girls are no longer in MDE, but in Europe, Mexico, etc. Or have sugar daddies and / or western union simps and don't need to fuck random gringos anymore. Bogota might be a better option, because of the college girls, and a sheer volume of women, but the weather kinda sucks. Lune Lunera is garbage, don't waste your time. La Isla is superior to fase dos. Loutron is a hit or miss, but the service is a bit mechanical and all covered.
For a newbie, Medellin is a tough place nowadays. Most guys who still have fun in Medellin are those living there, or coming down there often and relying on their regulars. Treat your regulars well, guys and enjoy them while they last.
StudPlayer
10-20-23, 05:51
Just as many have been stating for a few months now, the decline of medellin started about 10 years ago. Read my reports and you can follow the progression.
In some people's opinion the best strategy in medellin today is to go to the centro casas and offer a tip (propina) for whatever service you desire.
See, the problem with going to the places where you pay hundred of thousands of pesos upfront is that the chica has already made her money as soon as you have paid the time fee for her.
She does not need a tip to make it worth her while to suffer you on top of her for a rato.
Enjoy the last that medellin has to offer and of course don't end up like that guy in cartagena today.
Colombia is passe. Check out my recent post on El Salvador.
Unfortunately, this is the reality. Most of the hot girls are no longer in MDE, but in Europe, Mexico, etc. Or have sugar daddies and / or western union simps and don't need to fuck random gringos anymore.
BbqMushrooms
10-20-23, 06:04
That's one of the most obviously fake accounts I've seen to be honest LOL.I feel like there's a huge tell on these accounts. See image. Like there's some parent account sharing posts with 90 other accounts. Who must be fake as well.
Stinky Squid
10-20-23, 07:12
I'm coming from Brazil for a short stint to Medellin. Been there years ago. Now I read everybody is upset its all bad and nothing. Should I just not bother? I used to be in Bogota in the post COVID era and it was decent. Has it really gotten so bad?
Unfortunately, this is the reality. Most of the hot girls are no longer in MDE, but in Europe, Mexico, etc. Or have sugar daddies and / or western union simps and don't need to fuck random gringos anymore. Bogota might be a better option, because of the college girls, and a sheer volume of women, but the weather kinda sucks. Lune Lunera is garbage, don't waste your time. La Isla is superior to fase dos. Loutron is a hit or miss, but the service is a bit mechanical and all covered.
For a newbie, Medellin is a tough place nowadays. Most guys who still have fun in Medellin are those living there, or coming down there often and relying on their regulars. Treat your regulars well, guys and enjoy them while they last.Yep. Confirmed. Girls go where the money is.
You know what's crazy? I have to make more money to get the good looking girls and be able to travel to where they are AND I have to also get more status on ig or something to either bring the girls to me or so that they actually reply. There's no other way to secure a steady stream of play. Crazy I have to do so much I guess it’s the life of a man.
Did go to la isla. Found a found an 8. 5 I really like. Has a booty so big that even when I squeeze it it doesn't fit in my hand. Glad I went because now I have her contact and we'll be going to eat Mexican food maybe shells come back to my place for a reasonable price. Talked to a girl who walked up to me as I went out. Absolute 5. Mate was like you want to go upstairs and I was like I called the Uber. She said if I wanted to take her home I'm like what's the cost. Un million she said that's 1,000 k Like USD 250. I just laughed. She did say 200 goes to la isla which is interesting. Maybe out of the regular 550 k for 30 minutes. La isla takes 200 k so the girl gets 350? Hmm if this is true then girls were getting 150 before the price hike. Hmm.
I told her what if I get your what'sapp and call you tomorrow. She stills said 1 million. LOL. Relatively speaking she's the ugliest girl in la isla. Next! Hopefully the 8. 5 I met today doesn't charge me that.
In the middle of my stay at la isla (got there at 11:30 pm left at 2:30 am) there was this girl that was eyeing me the entire team she's like a 7 tbh. Would do her but I wanted better. After some friendly banter her and her friend who are dressed up in white dresses propose a trio (they both have huge asses but one of them has a prettier face) and I ask what's the price and it's 1. 100 k that 550 k x2. Interesting. I'm like nah I'm not interested (I tried getting atrio mileroticos today. Woulda cost 700 k total) after the uglier friend leaves I kindly tell the prettier girl "hey I've noticed nones come up to talk to you. Word of advice. You did well with the bikini but don't wear a dress. It hides your ass. " Apparently she gets offended, gets closer like she's going to whisper something and grabs my neck so I can't back away. She says something like I've been to California Hawaii, Dubai and west bubble that's how I dress that's me I'm not like the other chicks. I just walk away lmao. Coo coo for coco puffs. Woulda taken her upstairs too but all I heard is "I'm proud to be a hoe getting flown everywhere ". In my head I'm like why you back in mde if people flying you out everywhere shouldn't you have a relationship already? Ah that's right she's a hoe. Hoes don't get wifed up.
Anyways. La isla always has 1 or 2 chicks I would do. So 8 or above. Like a handful of 7's which I would do if there were no 8 and I really wanted a woman's touch lmao. And like 50% of the club is like Less than 6. My standards are high.
I spend 720 k total. 550 k girl 50 k cover 50 k in 2 k bills. 70 k on drinks.
My strategy rn is if I'm feeling lazy call one of my regulars to my house. Go to la isla when I'm not feeling lazy. And venture out and find other spots. Try not to spend more than usd250 a week.
I don't think I'm going to come back to Mde tho. Everything is more expensive than Bogota, online doesn't exist and only la isla is consistently good but it is increasingly pricey. Bogota Santa Fe was where it's at. Too bad the food sucks. Pick your poison.
Sigh. Hax.
BbqMushrooms
10-20-23, 10:03
What a great feature!
If you click on a profile you can add them to your ignore list! It shrinks all of their posts to a small panel telling you it's a post from an ignored user. Then you can scroll right past the self-pitying, pathetic drivel on to actually good posters.
This is another topic, which in my opinion is all based on personal preference, personal tastes, how you like to monger, etc.
Weather is fantastic, lots of good food and drink options, and just generally nice in El Poblado / Provenza.
Medellin vs. Bogota: Medellin is easily double the cost. However, Medellin El Centro girls are $40-50 k, just like SF girls in Bogota. They take you to a short time room for 30 minutes vs. 20 minutes-ish in SF Bogota. If cheap, fairly plain looking girls (I. E. Great body, so so face) are good enough to get the job done, and sometimes they are for me, then El Centro is worth a look.
Parque Lleras / Provenza. When I was there 2 months ago, literally 100's of girls out, especially when the bars started closing down between 3-4 AM, easily 300-400 girls in the park, around the park, down Calle 10. The vast majority to my eyes were decent quality, enough to stop, chat with them, flirt, ask prices. Most were asking $400-500 k right out of the gate, but quickly came down to $300 k if it looked like a sale was going to be lost. Got lots and lots of WhatsApp numbers, through which some even offered $200-250 k, so the price will vary, especially if they think you'll come through and if they seem interested in you. As always, your mileage may vary.
Tinder worked good for me, just a lot of flakes to weed through, found a couple of gems though, with no cost other than a nice meal in a nice restaurant and taxi costs.
Like I say, it was more than fun enough for me to make a return trip. I'll probably hit La Isla and Fase II, just because.
I'm coming from Brazil for a short stint to Medellin. Been there years ago. Now I read everybody is upset its all bad and nothing. Should I just not bother? I used to be in Bogota in the post COVID era and it was decent. Has it really gotten so bad?
I'm coming from Brazil for a short stint to Medellin. Been there years ago. Now I read everybody is upset its all bad and nothing. Should I just not bother? I used to be in Bogota in the post COVID era and it was decent. Has it really gotten so bad?If you have pre-established connections such as repeat Facebook girls, friends of friends, and repeat barrio girls then it isn't bad at all.
Now the last few times I went to Centro I wasn't too impressed. I think once the barricades around botero plaza come down in January things will be better around Centro again.
MiamiSammy
10-20-23, 18:38
I'm coming from Brazil for a short stint to Medellin. Been there years ago. Now I read everybody is upset its all bad and nothing. Should I just not bother? I used to be in Bogota in the post COVID era and it was decent. Has it really gotten so bad?Medellin is tops in Colombia- paisa girls are the most beautiful in Colombia. I personally prefer Colombian women to Brazilian, but other than that you can't beat Medellin. It's all about the game- I think the best bet in Colombia is the spas if you're older or the clubs if you've got plenty of game. The other great option is online things like Milertico, Photoprepagos, and the like. I'd say skip Medellin at your expense.
SlickVick0303
10-20-23, 18:54
Long time Monger in Tijuana and the states (Vegas, Cali) - Finally made it back to Medellin after a non mongering trip about 8 years ago.
I guess maybe because it was a first trip for me with actual mongering and partying in mind that I enjoyed it so much, which I could understand seeing as now to me Tijuana has lost so much of it's glory for me.
My first visit to Tijuana was in 2012 and man oh man what a change 10 years makes. Prices has doubled, quality is half and it just doesn't feel the same. Having said that, I still do love it and lots of fun to be had, but it's just not what it used to be imo.
Perhaps that's what happens when you see the change in places and maybe that is why I see lots of posts that Medellin is not worth it.
To me it was great and I literally only did the parque lleras tour. Didn't even look for FB / IG? Tinder girls or visit any casas. Just did the park area and it was awesome. Lots of fun and lots of options.
For me the major pay dirt were the clubs. All the working girls go. You simply sit down, have a drink and pick out what you like! My type of setting! Got a bottle and relaxed while I had several hotties trying to make eye contact.
Most quoted 300-400 K. Had only 4 sessions during my time as it was just a weekend trip but all were good. Complete hotties. 3 were very normal aka Tijuana HK vibes with the exception there was no BS hotel rooms or extra cost for drinks etc. By basic I mean CBJ, CFS. 1 was full blown GFE. Fuckin awesome and it was the hottest one too so I think that made my trip.
I am going back in December. Quick question for the vets. This trip I went with 3 buddies so 4 of us total. This next trip will be solo. Any advice or extra concerns I should have being in that area alone? Make me more prone for a target? Clubbing isn't the same alone as with a group of friends.
Stinky Squid
10-20-23, 20:41
This is another topic, which in my opinion is all based on personal preference, personal tastes, how you like to monger, etc.
Weather is fantastic, lots of good food and drink options, and just generally nice in El Poblado / Provenza.
Medellin vs. Bogota: Medellin is easily double the cost. However, Medellin El Centro girls are $40-50 k, just like SF girls in Bogota. They take you to a short time room for 30 minutes vs. 20 minutes-ish in SF Bogota. If cheap, fairly plain looking girls (I. E. Great body, so so face) are good enough to get the job done, and sometimes they are for me, then El Centro is worth a look.
Parque Lleras / Provenza. When I was there 2 months ago, literally 100's of girls out, especially when the bars started closing down between 3-4 AM, easily 300-400 girls in the park, around the park, down Calle 10. The vast majority to my eyes were decent quality, enough to stop, chat with them, flirt, ask prices. Most were asking $400-500 k right out of the gate, but quickly came down to $300 k if it looked like a sale was going to be lost. Got lots and lots of WhatsApp numbers, through which some even offered $200-250 k, so the price will vary, especially if they think you'll come through and if they seem interested in you. As always, your mileage may vary.
Tinder worked good for me, just a lot of flakes to weed through, found a couple of gems though, with no cost other than a nice meal in a nice restaurant and taxi costs.
Like I say, it was more than fun enough for me to make a return trip. I'll probably hit La Isla and Fase II, just because.Thanks for rescuing the morale here!
These 500,400, 350,250 prices in the bar closing hours are for what? Don't tell me they are for an hour, right? They are for bringing them to your place and do all night, right?
I just walked through the park with those big heads and the museum on the side in el centro and there are lots of girls standing around at this afternoon hour. I noticed one girl in a white club dress and I don't know what the point is, she was allowing to let herself be hogged by some dude who stood around there like I dunno a friend or so. What is the point of standing apparently for getting customers and let some dude friend or whatever stand next to you?
This old hotel Nutibara is really well located with view on the plaza, does anyone know the protocol? Can you just walk your girl into the elevator or will these security people and bell boys stop you? Asking for ID is probably good anyway, but will there then be bitching and moaning from the front desk people? Even if a 2-person room was booked? And how about 2 girls? A King size bed is always way to big to lie in it just with one girl. Hehehe.
PS: I also recalled that lollipop girl who I saw in this plaza when I was in Medellin years ago. And today again I saw lollipop , walking out of the plaza to the south, on the left side I saw what looks like those short term hotels. And girls in front. And again one with a lollipop. Is this some sort of signal for something?
Parque Lleras girls quote the high prices and they are for a half hour or hour, depending on what you can negotiate with the girl. That said, I did run across one who originally told me $250, then came down to $100 k and she stayed with me 3 nights and 2 full days, multiple sessions across all nights and days, and in the end I gave her a grand total of $170 k and bought her a new pair of sneakers for $60 k. I almost felt bad about that, but she seemed very pleased with the final arrangement.
El Centro girls are much, much cheaper, but to my mind the quality wasn't as good. Not that there are no good looking ones, but they generally look rougher, more used up. I would walk the streets around Plaza Botero and see what you see. Lots and lots of little cantinas / bars, with girls standing on the stairs or out front, with the rooms up above. I didn't sample any of these, but the prices were the same as the ones in Plaza Botero. Again though, I ran across a girl who gave me the very best deep throat I've ever had in my life in Plaza Botero. She was as plain looking as they come, probably a 5 in my book, but her dick sucking skills were otherworldly!
I didn't look at Hotel Nutibara, but I would imagine with the location they are more than used to guys bringing girls in. Ask the door person or front desk people what the story is. They'll let you know.
Thanks for rescuing the morale here!
These 500,400, 350,250 prices in the bar closing hours are for what? Don't tell me they are for an hour, right? They are for bringing them to your place and do all night, right?
I just walked through the park with those big heads and the museum on the side in el centro and there are lots of girls standing around at this afternoon hour. I noticed one girl in a white club dress and I don't know what the point is, she was allowing to let herself be hogged by some dude who stood around there like I dunno a friend or so. What is the point of standing apparently for getting customers and let some dude friend or whatever stand next to you?
This old hotel Nutibara is really well located with view on the plaza, does anyone know the protocol? Can you just walk your girl into the elevator or will these security people and bell boys stop you? Asking for ID is probably good anyway, but will there then be bitching and moaning from the front desk people? Even if a 2-person room was booked? And how about 2 girls? A King size bed is always way to big to lie in it just with one girl. Hehehe.
PS: I also recalled that lollipop girl who I saw in this plaza when I was in Medellin years ago. And today again I saw lollipop , walking out of the plaza to the south, on the left side I saw what looks like those short term hotels. And girls in front. And again one with a lollipop. Is this some sort of signal for something?
...These 500,400, 350,250 prices in the bar closing hours are for what? Don't tell me they are for an hour, right? They are for bringing them to your place and do all night, right?...You are confused by different venues. The priced you listed are for girls that are in Lleras. It would be 40 mil for half hour If you see the same girl in Centro.
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Thanks for rescuing the morale here!
These 500,400, 350,250 prices in the bar closing hours are for what? Don't tell me they are for an hour, right? They are for bringing them to your place and do all night, right?
I just walked through the park with those big heads and the museum on the side in el centro and there are lots of girls standing around at this afternoon hour. I noticed one girl in a white club dress and I don't know what the point is, she was allowing to let herself be hogged by some dude who stood around there like I dunno a friend or so. What is the point of standing apparently for getting customers and let some dude friend or whatever stand next to you?
This old hotel Nutibara is really well located with view on the plaza, does anyone know the protocol? Can you just walk your girl into the elevator or will these security people and bell boys stop you? Asking for ID is probably good anyway, but will there then be bitching and moaning from the front desk people? Even if a 2-person room was booked? And how about 2 girls? A King size bed is always way to big to lie in it just with one girl. Hehehe.El Poblado in general caters to gringos / Europeans and other foreigners from high income countries. The girls that work there charge between 4 to 5 times the normal going rates for Colombian locals that can be found all over the country (Bogota SF, Villavicencio, Cucuta, Armenia, Pereira, Manizales, Cali, Medellíand Plaza Botero etc.)
Although I have never mongered in El Poblado (Parque Lleras / calle 10) I have fucked many girls in centro / from facebook / referrals who have told me they also work in Poblado. They usually charge 250 k for an hour (often times they will start out higher 400 k or 350 k etc. To see if they can dupe an unsophisticated foreigner into paying the higher prices, but they will agree to 250 k.
Keep in mind these same girls also work en centro in plaza botero where they fuck local parceros for only 40 k cop for a half hour. I have in fact barebacked many of them for 80 k to 100 k cop. It all depends on many factors such as how bad they need money that particular day, etc. Some girls will fuck for as low as 20 k to 30 k COP if they've been standing around all day and haven't had a customer.
From the girls I have talked to that work both venues they tend to think of Poblado as their overpaying gringo clientele. The services are more likely to be covered and 4 to 5 times more expensive than it should be. In other words el Poblado is a scam. Just like the taxistas there will try to scam you so will the girls, bars, restaurants, etc. That's how it is in any tourist area anywhere in the world.
Your best bet is to use a mixture of Centro and Facebook.
I have often had amanecidas (all nighters) for 300 k COP in Medellin and in Bogotá and those are BBFS MSOG amanecidas.
There is a lot of information in this forum on hotel nutibarra. Osteoknot used to stay there all the time and posted frequently about that hotel. Just use the search function and RTFF.
Gabacho.
Long time Monger in Tijuana and the states (Vegas, Cali) - Finally made it back to Medellin after a non mongering trip about 8 years ago.
I guess maybe because it was a first trip for me with actual mongering and partying in mind that I enjoyed it so much, which I could understand seeing as now to me Tijuana has lost so much of it's glory for me.
My first visit to Tijuana was in 2012 and man oh man what a change 10 years makes. Prices has doubled, quality is half and it just doesn't feel the same. Having said that, I still do love it and lots of fun to be had, but it's just not what it used to be imo.
Perhaps that's what happens when you see the change in places and maybe that is why I see lots of posts that Medellin is not worth it.
To me it was great and I literally only did the parque lleras tour. Didn't even look for FB / IG? Tinder girls or visit any casas. Just did the park area and it was awesome. Lots of fun and lots of options.
For me the major pay dirt were the clubs. All the working girls go. You simply sit down, have a drink and pick out what you like! My type of setting! Got a bottle and relaxed while I had several hotties trying to make eye contact.
Most quoted 300-400 K. Had only 4 sessions during my time as it was just a weekend trip but all were good. Complete hotties. 3 were very normal aka Tijuana HK vibes with the exception there was no BS hotel rooms or extra cost for drinks etc. By basic I mean CBJ, CFS. 1 was full blown GFE. Fuckin awesome and it was the hottest one too so I think that made my trip.
I am going back in December. Quick question for the vets. This trip I went with 3 buddies so 4 of us total. This next trip will be solo. Any advice or extra concerns I should have being in that area alone? Make me more prone for a target? Clubbing isn't the same alone as with a group of friends.Don't wear jewelry, don't expose cell phone, carry only enough money that you need at that particular time, don't walk the streets intoxicated, stay out of deserted areas, monitor your drinks closely and you should be fine.
How does Gusto's compare to Hong Kong?
Thanks for rescuing the morale here!
These 500,400, 350,250 prices in the bar closing hours are for what? Don't tell me they are for an hour, right? They are for bringing them to your place and do all night, right?
I just walked through the park with those big heads and the museum on the side in el centro and there are lots of girls standing around at this afternoon hour. I noticed one girl in a white club dress and I don't know what the point is, she was allowing to let herself be hogged by some dude who stood around there like I dunno a friend or so. What is the point of standing apparently for getting customers and let some dude friend or whatever stand next to you?
This old hotel Nutibara is really well located with view on the plaza, does anyone know the protocol? Can you just walk your girl into the elevator or will these security people and bell boys stop you? Asking for ID is probably good anyway, but will there then be bitching and moaning from the front desk people? Even if a 2-person room was booked? And how about 2 girls? A King size bed is always way to big to lie in it just with one girl. Hehehe.
PS: I also recalled that lollipop girl who I saw in this plaza when I was in Medellin years ago. And today again I saw lollipop , walking out of the plaza to the south, on the left side I saw what looks like those short term hotels. And girls in front. And again one with a lollipop. Is this some sort of signal for something?You need to negotiate the time frame with the girl, but assume it's 1 pop or an hour unless stated otherwise.
Nutibara does card in my experience and limit is typically two people unless you booked 3 (they'll sometimes charge more as it includes breakfast). They usually have a couple doormen late at night to help look out for you.
I believe my room had a Queen, but may have been a King. It's worth upgrading to the bigger room with balcony for $10 more / night.
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