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SlowBlow
01-25-24, 20:21
For guys who are fearful about crime in Medellin, I agree that you should not come. Guys who enjoy Medellin aren't going to try to convince you to come to Medellin. We don't care whether you come or not. In fact, like many guys, I prefer that less guys come to Colombia because it is getting too popular. I have a few friends who will never visit Colombia due to the safety issues and I don't make any effort to try to convince them otherwise.

Colombia is more dangerous than a lot of other mongering countries such as Thailand, the Philippines, Costa Rica or even Mexico. I don't think that many people would disagree. For guys who visit, it is just a matter of managing risk and being more careful.I feel the same way, I don't care if anyone comes or not, but it's just a little annoying reading about it. Locals are the worst because they'll tell you an area is super dangerous but then you go there and it feels just like everywhere else and even they've never had any problems.

Ultimately, if you go looking for trouble, you're more likely to find it. Searching for quick and easy sex? Well you're going to come across a problem eventually more than likely. I try to do find semi-pros rather than straight up pros because they're easier to sus out I feel.

There's no such thing as no risk in life. Also people can calculate for certain risks but some are unavoidable. Is investing in index funds risky? Well it's more risky than CDS and less than buying individual stocks but what choice do you have? Keep the money under your mattress and let inflation eat it?

Is traveling to Colombia for women risky? Well yes but what's the alternative? Sit around in a rich country where women are delusional, bored in a dark room on a screen all day in the name of "safety"? No thanks, for me that's already death.

Yuvaraj
01-25-24, 22:21
I agree. I felt that I made the right decision by starting with Hotel M. I just thought sharing my viewpoint as a first timer for the benefit of anyone considering / planning their first trip. I really liked the area where Hotel M is. If I can find a similar hotel but with more modern finish within 5 minutes of walking distance, that would be my ideal second time hotel which I'm thinking of in Spring.


Hotel M is a good bet for first timers. The girls are known by the hotel and the hotel can probably track down any girl giving you trouble. However, the girls won't try anything because they know that the hotel knows who they are. Plenty of choices at the bar and pool. I think it is a good place to start for newbies. Some guys don't move from there at all. There are also a lot of other mongers who are willing to chat with you and share info.

I didn't start out at Hotel M because I felt comfortable on my own but I have been doing this for a while. Hotel M is not the cheapest or best hotel to stay but it has some advantages.

Gabacho
01-25-24, 23:33
Strangers won't, but friends will.And remember guys any stranger calling you "my friend" in English is not your fucking friend.

SlowBlow
01-26-24, 00:11
Certainly they would understand the progressive tense. But for example, to say something like "reading is good" or "learning is good," that's the infinitive. "Leer es bueno. " Basically in Spanish, to use the progressive, the action has to be in progress at that moment. If I'm asked what I am doing in Colombia, it's not "Estoy estudiando" but rather the simple indicative, "Estudio. " because I'm not studying at that exact moment. And Colombians aren't going to correct your Spanish. And as far as how long you've been studying, "hace X aos que ESTUDestudioIO."I know Google translate isn't perfect but it shows "I've been learning" as "he estado aprendiendo". Also I've never had any Spanish friends correct me for saying this either. I know that "estaba trabajando" is "I was working" and that's correct.

Stl24
01-26-24, 01:49
I am trying to find Hotel M on the map or on Expedia but I can't seem to. Is this the Hotel M (la mansion)?


Hotel M is a good bet for first timers. The girls are known by the hotel and the hotel can probably track down any girl giving you trouble. However, the girls won't try anything because they know that the hotel knows who they are. Plenty of choices at the bar and pool. I think it is a good place to start for newbies. Some guys don't move from there at all. There are also a lot of other mongers who are willing to chat with you and share info.

I didn't start out at Hotel M because I felt comfortable on my own but I have been doing this for a while. Hotel M is not the cheapest or best hotel to stay but it has some advantages.

Kbdb2488
01-26-24, 03:40
My buddy is arriving Monday and his airbnb account got flagged for "suspicious activity" and cancelled his reservation, blocked his account, nightmare.

Can someone please mention the guest friendly hotels that can be booked short notice? He will be there for 8 nights. I have heard Energy living is only booked through airbnb, true? I recommended Hotel Dorado in Laureles but hopefully more is out there. Now I will be checking my airbnb reservation daily until I return in late Feb.

Gabacho
01-26-24, 10:08
My buddy is arriving Monday and his airbnb account got flagged for "suspicious activity" and cancelled his reservation, blocked his account, nightmare.

Can someone please mention the guest friendly hotels that can be booked short notice? He will be there for 8 nights. I have heard Energy living is only booked through airbnb, true? I recommended Hotel Dorado in Laureles but hopefully more is out there. Now I will be checking my airbnb reservation daily until I return in late Feb.Why doesn't he just use VRBO isn't that like the same shit as Airbnb?

Gabacho
01-26-24, 10:31
My buddy is arriving Monday and his airbnb account got flagged for "suspicious activity" and cancelled his reservation, blocked his account, nightmare.

Can someone please mention the guest friendly hotels that can be booked short notice? He will be there for 8 nights. I have heard Energy living is only booked through airbnb, true? I recommended Hotel Dorado in Laureles but hopefully more is out there. Now I will be checking my airbnb reservation daily until I return in late Feb.Or just make a new Airbnb account using a different email address and different card. It's not rocket science.

Knowledge
01-26-24, 16:31
Just open a new airbnb account. You might have to use a different payment method and e-mail address.


My buddy is arriving Monday and his airbnb account got flagged for "suspicious activity" and cancelled his reservation, blocked his account, nightmare.

Can someone please mention the guest friendly hotels that can be booked short notice? He will be there for 8 nights. I have heard Energy living is only booked through airbnb, true? I recommended Hotel Dorado in Laureles but hopefully more is out there. Now I will be checking my airbnb reservation daily until I return in late Feb.

Gabacho
01-26-24, 18:07
I know Google translate isn't perfect but it shows "I've been learning" as "he estado aprendiendo". Also I've never had any Spanish friends correct me for saying this either. I know that "estaba trabajando" is "I was working" and that's correct.Yea maybe Huacho is wrong. Or he's just going off of pure text book rules and not actually how people speak in real life. I've always used "estaba durmiendo" or "estaba dormido" to say I was sleeping. Although since living here I've picked up "me quedé dormido. " in Spanish there are multiple ways to say the same thing. I don't think one is necessarily more correct than the other, just how in Colombia it's "la nevera" but in Mexico it's "el refri" there's more than one way to say the same thing.

Not only that but there's shit you can't even learn from the text books at all. Such as a paisa will substitute the word "amigo" with the word "parce" and a Venezuelan will use the word "pana" for "amigo" and it's not pano for a male it's pana for both males and females.. Are you gonna say that's incorrect too Huacho?

-Gabacho

LvZooMan211
01-26-24, 21:13
My buddy is arriving Monday and his airbnb account got flagged for "suspicious activity" and cancelled his reservation, blocked his account, nightmare.

Can someone please mention the guest friendly hotels that can be booked short notice? He will be there for 8 nights. I have heard Energy living is only booked through airbnb, true? I recommended Hotel Dorado in Laureles but hopefully more is out there. Now I will be checking my airbnb reservation daily until I return in late Feb.Try San Peter Apartments in Laureles. I always stay there for a few days. Guest friendly with a valid Colombian ID and no chica fee.

LvZooMan211
01-26-24, 21:17
I am trying to find Hotel M on the map or on Expedia but I can't seem to. Is this the Hotel M (la mansion)?Hotel M 
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Carrera 43 # 2 sur - 50, Medellin. Colombia
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Phone: +1 312 546 4301.

Email: info@hotelmedellinm.com.

Website: http://hotelmedellinm.com/.

Gabacho
01-26-24, 21:28
Try San Peter Apartments in Laureles. I always stay there for a few days. Guest friendly with a valid Colombian ID and no chica fee.I never stay in these places so I don't really know or care but I do have a question to which the answer may help other guys who do stay there. When you say a valid Colombian ID does this mean only a Colombiana with a cedula de ciudadania or does this also include other forms of ID issued by the Colombian government such as a Venezuelan with a valid PPT or cedula de extranjeria?

Asking for guys who may want to stay at San Peter Apartments and might want to bring a vennie back to their place.

Jbj64
01-26-24, 21:30
Try San Peter Apartments in Laureles. I always stay there for a few days. Guest friendly with a valid Colombian ID and no chica fee.https://www.laurelessuites.com/
Just 2 blocks away from la 70 so quieter

CK465
01-26-24, 23:57
So I've been planning this trip for 2 years now but I couldn't find anyone to go until now. Finally bought my ticket.

I will be there from Dec 11th - 17th.

Main priorities are Guatape, Loutron, Cerro El Picacho, Energy Spa, New Life, La Isla, Fase Dos, Luna Lunera, Comuna 13, Want to do a Colombian Party bus.

And Crepes and Waffles (LOL).

Definitely bar hopping all 7 of these days. If anyone wants to join for a beer I'm down.

I've been messaging Facebook girls for a while now. How much should I quote them?

Also any tips? Will probably end up at Gustos one day cause the first 3 days will be in Laureles then Poblado the last 3 days.Any spot in particular that you enjoyed?

Stl24
01-27-24, 03:24
Thanks, I appreciate it!


Hotel M 
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Carrera 43 # 2 sur - 50, Medellin. Colombia
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Phone: +1 312 546 4301.

Email: info@hotelmedellinm.com.

Website: http://hotelmedellinm.com/.

Nil Admirari
01-27-24, 15:12
... or does this also include other forms of ID issued by the Colombian government such as a Venezuelan with a valid PPT or cedula de extranjeria?
Asking for guys who may want to stay at San Peter Apartments and might want to bring a vennie back to their place.

San Peter will accept an original Venezuelan passport, even if the date has expired. However, they will not grant entry with the temporary IDs issued by the Colombian government to some Venezuelan refugees on the grounds that they are too readily forged.

Knowledge
01-27-24, 16:21
Crepes and Waffles, LOL!, that is a good one. You gave me a good laugh.


So I've been planning this trip for 2 years now but I couldn't find anyone to go until now. Finally bought my ticket.

I will be there from Dec 11th - 17th.

Main priorities are Guatape, Loutron, Cerro El Picacho, Energy Spa, New Life, La Isla, Fase Dos, Luna Lunera, Comuna 13, Want to do a Colombian Party bus.

And Crepes and Waffles (LOL).

Definitely bar hopping all 7 of these days. If anyone wants to join for a beer I'm down.

I've been messaging Facebook girls for a while now. How much should I quote them?

Also any tips? Will probably end up at Gustos one day cause the first 3 days will be in Laureles then Poblado the last 3 days.

MoonShot
01-27-24, 16:59
https://www.laurelessuites.com/
Just 2 blocks away from la 70 so quieterThere are two issues. One is that there is construction with renovating an older building into more units by the owner so there is construction noise in the daytime at times. Second, there is no security at all, no doorman, no reception area. So you do lose any type of protection against druggings and robberies.

So I wouldn't recommend it to those not experienced in Medellin but if you take proper safeguards and you have been to Medellin a few times, it can be a good place to stay once the construction is finished later this year or so.

StudBucket
01-28-24, 00:25
Hello Fellow ISGers.

I wanted some of your thoughts whether or not one should consider some girls from FB as possibilities for scoping us? I know the golden rules are do not ever get girls from Tinder, or other similar dateing apps, but FB is not really a "dating app" per se. I know many of us on here, including myself, have had good experiences on FB and never had any issues, but I am wondering if I should take extra precaution here as well. Has anyone had any stories of friends getting drugged, specifically from Facebook girls? Thanks your inputs are appreciated.

Zeos1
01-28-24, 04:04
Hello Fellow ISGers.

I wanted some of your thoughts whether or not one should consider some girls from FB as possibilities for scoping us? I know the golden rules are do not ever get girls from Tinder, or other similar dateing apps, but FB is not really a "dating app" per se. I know many of us on here, including myself, have had good experiences on FB and never had any issues, but I am wondering if I should take extra precaution here as well. Has anyone had any stories of friends getting drugged, specifically from Facebook girls? Thanks your inputs are appreciated.I think that there are some Facebook profiles that look more fake than others, and so if you have no other ways of knowing that chica then I would be careful. However, many of them have multiple other gringos or whatevers as friends, so when a profile shows up and you have 40 friends in common it is likely she has been in the business for a while, and knows a few other mongers who you also may know. Anyway. Friends in common, real looking pictures of family, etc. , long time on Facebook, not a brand new account. Lots of ways of doing some screening.

Mojo Bandit
01-28-24, 05:08
Hello Fellow ISGers.

I wanted some of your thoughts whether or not one should consider some girls from FB as possibilities for scoping us? I know the golden rules are do not ever get girls from Tinder, or other similar dateing apps, but FB is not really a "dating app" per se. I know many of us on here, including myself, have had good experiences on FB and never had any issues, but I am wondering if I should take extra precaution here as well. Has anyone had any stories of friends getting drugged, specifically from Facebook girls? Thanks your inputs are appreciated.


Zeos about summed it up . You have to consider it is always a possibility that you can get scoped by anyone but in my opinion it is less likely to happen with an FB chica. I suggest you gather at least a hundred or more FB prepagos before reaching out.

Yet again if you are new to the FB scene than you may not have the resources to tell a fake profile from a old scanky prepago LOL. That is the difference bettween an FB and a Tinder profile. FB chica's profiles are more complex and than a Tinder profile and so its easier to spot a fake one. Often times with the FB chicas I have 20 or more mutual friends. Also you can see on many profiles their photos through the years and see photos where the chica is standing with another known prepago. That being said I have around 2000 FB chicas friends in medellin so I can usually tell. Many of the younger chicas are not into posting photos. FB is old fashion to them and they are strung out on that Tik Tok dope. Which defeats their purpose if they are serious about making money but I guess they are not so I stay wary of them.

I personally feel that one of the best precautions you can take is to stay in a building that has professional security where they make a copy of the chicas identification and keep iot when they have them sign in.

StudBucket
01-28-24, 05:27
Zeos about summed it up . You have to consider it is always a possibility that you can get scoped by anyone but in my opinion it is less likely to happen with an FB chica. I suggest you gather at least a hundred or more FB prepagos before reaching out.

Yet again if you are new to the FB scene than you may not have the resources to tell a fake profile from a old scanky prepago LOL. That is the difference bettween an FB and a Tinder profile. FB chica's profiles are more complex and than a Tinder profile and so its easier to spot a fake one. Often times with the FB chicas I have 20 or more mutual friends. Also you can see on many profiles their photos through the years and see photos where the chica is standing with another known prepago. That being said I have around 2000 FB chicas friends in medellin so I can usually tell. Many of the younger chicas are not into posting photos. FB is old fashion to them and they are strung out on that Tik Tok dope. Which defeats their purpose if they are serious about making money but I guess they are not so I stay wary of them.

I personally feel that one of the best precautions you can take is to stay in a building that has professional security where they make a copy of the chicas identification and keep iot when they have them sign in.This is very good advice from both you and Zeos. We always talk about staying far away from Tinder, but FB safety is not mentioned. I have been going to Medellin for about 5 years and mongered for 15 years so I am not new to the game. I guess I was also just more curious to see if anyone had heard of druggings specifically from FB but it seems like not so much an issue. It's a great point you make and agree that one of the best things you can do is stay at a place that takes their ID. This is is why I always stay at Hotel DuParc which does do this and has cameras with a doorman. In most of the druggings I have seen commentary on many druggings in Medellin and the victim is not in a secure building with these security measures.
Also, I like both of your points about staying away from fake or suspicious, making sure you have some mutual FB friends in common. , I will not befriend profiles that look new, suspicous, etc and will always mandate a video call before I go out with a girl to make sure it is not fake. Any more mongers tips or experiences much appreciated.

Zeos1
01-28-24, 11:32
This is very good advice from both you and Zeos. We always talk about staying far away from Tinder, but FB safety is not mentioned. I have been going to Medellin for about 5 years and mongered for 15 years so I am not new to the game. I guess I was also just more curious to see if anyone had heard of druggings specifically from FB but it seems like not so much an issue. It's a great point you make and agree that one of the best things you can do is stay at a place that takes their ID. This is is why I always stay at Hotel DuParc which does do this and has cameras with a doorman. In most of the druggings I have seen commentary on many druggings in Medellin and the victim is not in a secure building with these security measures.
Also, I like both of your points about staying away from fake or suspicious, making sure you have some mutual FB friends in common. , I will not befriend profiles that look new, suspicous, etc and will always mandate a video call before I go out with a girl to make sure it is not fake. Any more mongers tips or experiences much appreciated.Something I forgot to mention about Facebook is that the friends thing is less than reliable on its own. There are chicas that seem to be selling and buying, or lending, access to friend lists, and a chica sending you a friend request and who already has other friends in common still might be a bad person. So if I get a friend request I also look at everything else, her posts, etc. Etc. And if it is a bare minimum account with only pictures of the chica herself it is a no go as far as accepting them as a friend. I'm not terribly active with my Facebook stuff for Medellin, so most of my friends there are from a few years back, and once in a while I get a friend request from a friend of one of those. Some are legit I think, others I'm not so sure. In any case even if I think they are legit and probably fine I let them age for a while. I'm not there anyway at the moment, and so not trying to arrange anything with any of them anyway.

Gabacho
01-28-24, 12:26
Something I forgot to mention about Facebook is that the friends thing is less than reliable on its own. There are chicas that seem to be selling and buying, or lending, access to friend lists, and a chica sending you a friend request and who already has other friends in common still might be a bad person. So if I get a friend request I also look at everything else, her posts, etc. Etc. And if it is a bare minimum account with only pictures of the chica herself it is a no go as far as accepting them as a friend. I'm not terribly active with my Facebook stuff for Medellin, so most of my friends there are from a few years back, and once in a while I get a friend request from a friend of one of those. Some are legit I think, others I'm not so sure. In any case even if I think they are legit and probably fine I let them age for a while. I'm not there anyway at the moment, and so not trying to arrange anything with any of them anyway.There was just a Facebook chica I was reaching out to last week trying to set up a cita to fuck her and I have like 20 amigas en comun with her and I personally have already fucked some of the girls in some of the pictures she posted recently so I figured she would be cool.

When she messaged me back she said she only does trios with her other friend and I said I don't like trios that I only wanted to see her and she straight up said no. Then like a cpl days later (I'm seeing all her pics and stories now even though she hasn't accepted the friend request I sent her) I see this picture she posted with like 3 other vennies and a vennie dude and they literally have like all these gram bags of tussi (like literally 10 or 12 baggies of tussi with little cartoon characters on the baggies) like as if they are selling it.

So I instantly saw atleast like 3 red flags there with her.

1.) that she only does trios this means that she was most likely planning to rob me or this is what she does to her other clients that actually agree to the trio.

2.) the fact she is selling tussi means she's a drug dealer and not just a working girl so she probably has questionable morals.

3.) the fact she was so quick to say no when I said I just wanted to see her, rather than arrange to meet in Centro and go to a short time hotel shows that she in fact is robbing people with her friends.

And also from her pics it looks like she works in Poblado so we probably wouldn't have been able to come to an agreement on price anyways as I usually tell all the poblado girls to fuck off when they quote me 250 mil.

Also I asked my homegirl Fifi (who I've known since 2022 and trust) about her and as soon as I told her about the trio thing and her saying she won't see me sola, she told me to stop messaging her. So I believe Fifi was thinking this bytxh was up to no good as well. Needless to say I blocked the bytxh after that.

-Gabacho.

ElSexoChino7
01-29-24, 04:59
Something I forgot to mention about Facebook is that the friends thing is less than reliable on its own. There are chicas that seem to be selling and buying, or lending, access to friend lists, and a chica sending you a friend request and who already has other friends in common still might be a bad person. So if I get a friend request I also look at everything else, her posts, etc. Etc. And if it is a bare minimum account with only pictures of the chica herself it is a no go as far as accepting them as a friend. I'm not terribly active with my Facebook stuff for Medellin, so most of my friends there are from a few years back, and once in a while I get a friend request from a friend of one of those. Some are legit I think, others I'm not so sure. In any case even if I think they are legit and probably fine I let them age for a while. I'm not there anyway at the moment, and so not trying to arrange anything with any of them anyway.I give up on Facebook it's just a waste of time. Almost all the chicas I added a few months back already added me back. I messaged them and mostly just left me on read or just told me that they are only selling content.

There's this one chica that's really hot and I wanted to fuck, but after I added her, Facebook suggested me 'similar friends' that I may know of. First thing I noticed is 2 other different FB accounts with different names but the same photos from the first chick that I added. So now I'm friends with this chica with same photos, different names but on 3 separate accounts. I just give up LOL.

Seeking has been more reliable with me and will always be. My current roster are all from seeking and I will use that platform for a while.

StudBucket
01-29-24, 06:00
I give up on Facebook it's just a waste of time. Almost all the chicas I added a few months back already added me back. I messaged them and mostly just left me on read or just told me that they are only selling content.

There's this one chica that's really hot and I wanted to fuck, but after I added her, Facebook suggested me 'similar friends' that I may know of. First thing I noticed is 2 other different FB accounts with different names but the same photos from the first chick that I added. So now I'm friends with this chica with same photos, different names but on 3 separate accounts. I just give up LOL.

Seeking has been more reliable with me and will always be. My current roster are all from seeking and I will use that platform for a while.Sorry you had a bad experience with FB for mongering but for many members on the site it has paid dividends. Problem is that it does take more work sometimes in the beginning to weed out the fake profiles, delete the gals only looking for content, and getting a good roster can take time. I must say that Seeking is not point and click and I have been a paid member for many years. You have many flakes, fake profiles, and girls that want to charge high amounts in Medellin so that discouraged me somewhat also. So, if you are patient, can navigate and disregard the BS both of these sites can be a good avenue to meet gals. I must say that my preferred method is just going down to Parque Lleras at night and working the clubs and gals congregating on sidewalks. Got to love Medellin!

Turgid
01-29-24, 13:46
Medellin or Tijuana guys?

MoonShot
01-29-24, 14:32
Sorry you had a bad experience with FB for mongering but for many members on the site it has paid dividends. Problem is that it does take more work sometimes in the beginning to weed out the fake profiles, delete the gals only looking for content, and getting a good roster can take time. I must say that Seeking is not point and click and I have been a paid member for many years. You have many flakes, fake profiles, and girls that want to charge high amounts in Medellin so that discouraged me somewhat also. So, if you are patient, can navigate and disregard the BS both of these sites can be a good avenue to meet gals. I must say that my preferred method is just going down to Parque Lleras at night and working the clubs and gals congregating on sidewalks. Got to love Medellin!If you're not willing to put in some time, looking for girls on Facebook won't work that well. If you're arriving in Medellin and searching when you are in town for a week, it's not going to work. You need to take some while you're home to do the work and find the type of girls that you want to see. Everyone differs in how they screen them. The most basic is when I see a FB profile and there is not much posted or just one picture, I usually pass. It's an art not a science.

If you want easy with no effort, stick to the casas, streetwalkers and girls at the bars and strip clubs. Nothing wrong with that and you get to see the girl in person before you take her.

I have months before my trips so I have time to do some research on Facebook and with each trip, your stable of FB girls gets better and better.

Knowledge
01-29-24, 16:13
Tijuana, and be sure to share your experiences in that forum.


Medellin or Tijuana guys?

Magma5108
01-29-24, 16:31
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Dcrist0527
01-29-24, 16:48
Medellin or Tijuana guys?Why choose? Do both! LOL.

I'm dreading the flights but I'm heading out to Tijuana from the east coast for a very long weekend and then heading to Medellin for another 8 days.

I've spent a lot of time in both locales over the last 10 years and I think MDE wins hands down. Virtually every reason I could give you is subjective. But for me, it's nearly unanimous. I really only added Tijuana to my upcoming trip due to nostalgia. I had so many great nights there. But I am thinking this is my last visit to Tijuana. I still like Tijuana, but given the cost, the service and the fact I prefer paisas to the Mexicanas, it's time to close that chapter.

Gabacho
01-29-24, 19:23
Why choose? Do both! LOL.

I'm dreading the flights but I'm heading out to Tijuana from the east coast for a very long weekend and then heading to Medellin for another 8 days.

I've spent a lot of time in both locales over the last 10 years and I think MDE wins hands down. Virtually every reason I could give you is subjective. But for me, it's nearly unanimous. I really only added Tijuana to my upcoming trip due to nostalgia. I had so many great nights there. But I am thinking this is my last visit to Tijuana. I still like Tijuana, but given the cost, the service and the fact I prefer paisas to the Mexicanas, it's time to close that chapter.Plus in Tijuana, atleast in my experience the girls are alot more strict about using condoms versus in Colombia where its basically like condoms are just optional.

Gabacho
01-29-24, 19:36
Why choose? Do both! LOL.

I'm dreading the flights but I'm heading out to Tijuana from the east coast for a very long weekend and then heading to Medellin for another 8 days.

I've spent a lot of time in both locales over the last 10 years and I think MDE wins hands down. Virtually every reason I could give you is subjective. But for me, it's nearly unanimous. I really only added Tijuana to my upcoming trip due to nostalgia. I had so many great nights there. But I am thinking this is my last visit to Tijuana. I still like Tijuana, but given the cost, the service and the fact I prefer paisas to the Mexicanas, it's time to close that chapter.Also in Tijuana the girls feel more mechanical and out of sync during the experience, kind of like you're just fucking a doll or something. They also tend to charge extra for each and every little thing and you end up paying alot more money for crappier service. Not to mention the usd / mxn exchange rate has gone to shit making Mexico overpriced.

In Colombia, on the other hand, the girls are actual people and it doesn't feel like you are fucking a doll it feels like you are fucking a real person, also they don't charge extra to remove their clothes or to suck your dick or even to let you do DATY on them, which most in Tijuana won't allow but with those nasty hairy bushes and vertical see-section scars and malos olores, you should probably skip that in Tijuana.

Here is Colombia the girls are much cleaner, much happier, and actually enjoy doing their jobs, and you get everything included with full nudity and your dick sucked for about $10 usd in plaza botero.

No my friends, there is no comparison, Tijuana is a dirty overpriced shit hole. It's literally San Diego's toilet that backs up and overflows into imperial beach whenever it rains LOL. Medellin is a million times better, hands down.

-Gabacho Out.

Gabacho
01-29-24, 20:48
I tried sending you a message but it says I can't send you a PM.If I were you I would be very leery of asking that guy to set you up with anyone. For all you know he could be one of the guys who pay the girls to scope and rob gringos and you could be obliviously walking right into his fucking trap.

I'm actually quite intrigued that the admins even allow him to advertise his services on ISG, even if he doesn't have bad intentions his services would still amount to pimping and pandering if he gets any kind of financial kick back for helping you, and I highly doubt he is doing it out of the goodness of his heart LOL.

Casa No Va
01-30-24, 03:17
If you're not willing to put in some time, looking for girls on Facebook won't work that well. If you're arriving in Medellin and searching when you are in town for a week, it's not going to work. You need to take some while you're home to do the work and find the type of girls that you want to see. Everyone differs in how they screen them. The most basic is when I see a FB profile and there is not much posted or just one picture, I usually pass. It's an art not a science.

If you want easy with no effort, stick to the casas, streetwalkers and girls at the bars and strip clubs. Nothing wrong with that and you get to see the girl in person before you take her.

I have months before my trips so I have time to do some research on Facebook and with each trip, your stable of FB girls gets better and better.Hey Moon Shot had a question.

I'm working on growing my list of friends on Facebook. Have you found that the girls that sell content on their pages are more likely or less likely to meet for presencial p4 p.

Thanks for info!

Huacho
01-30-24, 10:20
The best pussy to price ratio is to be found in Bratislava and the women are gorgeous. However, they are not, and never will be, hot blooded latinas. For hot blooded latinas, MDE is about as good as it gets. Tijuana is disgusting.

Shoman
01-30-24, 13:21
I would like to check this off the bucket list. Any recommendations?

Turgid
01-30-24, 14:46
Why choose? Do both! LOL.

I'm dreading the flights but I'm heading out to Tijuana from the east coast for a very long weekend and then heading to Medellin for another 8 days.

I've spent a lot of time in both locales over the last 10 years and I think MDE wins hands down. Virtually every reason I could give you is subjective. But for me, it's nearly unanimous. I really only added Tijuana to my upcoming trip due to nostalgia. I had so many great nights there. But I am thinking this is my last visit to Tijuana. I still like Tijuana, but given the cost, the service and the fact I prefer paisas to the Mexicanas, it's time to close that chapter.I would take this as a plus for Medellin. So far its Medellin 2, Tijuana 1. I will let you guys decide for me. You are right but the one that gets the most votes I'll do first.

Turgid
01-30-24, 14:48
Tijuana, and be sure to share your experiences in that forum.Anyone who has read my posts over the years will know that your exhortation is unnecessary.

Gabacho
01-30-24, 16:13
Medellin or Tijuana guys?To put this question into perspective, would you rather eat a steak from Outback Steakhouse or from Cattleman's?

Tijuana = Outback.

Medellin = Cattleman's.

Gabacho
01-30-24, 16:19
Hey Moon Shot had a question.

I'm working on growing my list of friends on Facebook. Have you found that the girls that sell content on their pages are more likely or less likely to meet for presencial p4 p.

Thanks for info!The ones selling content are morons. Just block them and move on to the next one. This way you weed out all the stupid ones and you are left with the ones that are serious.

Gabacho
01-30-24, 16:21
For hot blooded latinas, MDE is about as good as it gets. Tijuana is disgusting.I couldn't agree with you more!

MoonShot
01-30-24, 17:31
Hey Moon Shot had a question.

I'm working on growing my list of friends on Facebook. Have you found that the girls that sell content on their pages are more likely or less likely to meet for presencial p4 p.

Thanks for info!There are some girls who are just interested in selling content. If so, I just delete them. There are also girls who try to sell you content but are also interested in meeting you if you say no. I usually just say I am not interested in buying content but if you would like to meet when I am in Medellin, it is possible. If they say yes, then we can negotiate the terms as my trip gets closer. There is really no reason to negotiate terms too far ahead of your trip. Girls are much more interested in someone who is coming to Medellin soon.

I have had good sessions with girls that I have met who also tried to sell me content so it is not a red flag to me.

Huacho
01-30-24, 23:31
I couldn't agree with you more!Really I think the pussy is slightly better in Bogotá but I don't want to freeze my jones off. Bogotá is a bit too high to qualify.

Turgid
01-31-24, 15:31
"Why choose? Do both! LOL.

I'm dreading the flights but I'm heading out to Tijuana from the east coast for a very long weekend and then heading to Medellin for another 8 days.

I've spent a lot of time in both locales over the last 10 years and I think MDE wins hands down. Virtually every reason I could give you is subjective. But for me, it's nearly unanimous. I really only added Tijuana to my upcoming trip due to nostalgia. I had so many great nights there. But I am thinking this is my last visit to Tijuana. I still like Tijuana, but given the cost, the service and the fact I prefer paisas to the Mexicanas, it's time to close that chapter. ".

Some of the best pussy in the fucking world can be found in Tijuana, MDE quality is not that different.

But I like the weather much better in Tijuana (beach too).

The food is fucking amazing the best in the world.

The putas have never ever scammed me there.

And its so damn easy to get there.

Oh and if you're a monger theres about 0% chance you will return in a body bag, or at all!!

If I could live in Tijuana or anywhere in Colombia, Tijuana wins hands down.

I rather be a few minutes from the border than an international flight away.

World class medical care is extremely important to me, and don't tell me its pretty good in Colombia LMAO compared to what?This is a strong positive for Tijuana. It seems to be Medellin 5, Tijuana 3.

El Mechanico
01-31-24, 18:55
Why does this seem to be so difficult for you guys? Seems like every couple months someone posts about this.

Everytime you buy a new phone or bring in a phone from out of country you have to register the IMEI of said phone. Not sure about Movistar but with Tigo and Claro you can do this yourself within the miTigo or mi Claro app.

It is a relatively simple process that asks for your cedula number if you are a citizen or passport number if you are a foreigner. There is no need to have someone from the cell phone store do it for you and there is no need to keep buying a new sim card every few months. I have had the same Tigo sim card now since early 2022 and I have used it in various different phones.
I am calling BS on this. It is not a relatively simple process! I have tried for a half an hour and Claro App will not let me get through the registration process by using my US cell number and passport. You have to have a Claro number or a Claro Sim card in order to create an account! That is why we are having so much trouble with it. My next trip down I will get a Claro Sim card and try again.
I just tried again to register , this time on the on Tigo app and same thing, it refused to let me. So apparently you can bring a US phone in to the country but you have to have an existing Claro or Tigo number in order to register the new phone that you just brought in from the US.
El Mechanico.

ElSexoChino7
01-31-24, 19:07
Medellin or Tijuana guys?This is not even a question. Medellin hands down. I don't care what anyone says LOL.

As far as my experience goes, I will never get tired of paisas. They got the best pussy in the world. Even when I was Mexico, I was still banging Colombianas there. Every single paisas gave me the GFE experience and sex did not feel mechanical unlike, mexicanas which most of them are. They loved sex as much as we do and I love hearing paisas when they moans in the bed, they have the sexiest accent. Cost wise, Medellin beats Tijuana easy. I do live in the East coast so MDE is just 6 hours away.

Gabacho
01-31-24, 19:11
I am calling BS on this. It is not a relatively simple process! I have tried for a half an hour and Claro App will not let me get through the registration process by using my US cell number and passport. You have to have a Claro number or a Claro Sim card in order to create an account! That is why we are having so much trouble with it. My next trip down I will get a Claro Sim card and try again.

El Mechanico.Of course you need a Claro Sim and Claro phone number to use the claro app to register your phone. And if you had a Tigo sim card and phone number then you would use the Tigo app.

I think you misunderstood something in the process. If you don't have Claro then why the hell would you be using the Claro app? That's like if you had Verizon and we're trying to use the T-Mobile app.

The process is very simple I will outline it for you agn.

1.) When you are physically in Colombia purchase a Claro sim card and put a cheap plan on it at the claro store or gana or wherever (there's plans available from 3 mil to 31 mil pesos).

2.) Slap the sim card into your phone and you should have signal and data and be able to place phone calls and send/rec SMS to Colombian numbers.

3.) Now download the MiClaro App from the Playstore or Apple.

4.) Use your new phone number to register the app to your account.

5.) Within the app there will be the option to register the IMEI number of your phone with your passport or cedula so that it doesn't get blocked.

Make sure you do this within 30 days of first using the phone in Colombia or it will be blocked.

If you choose to use Tigo then the process is pretty much the same but the app is called MiTigo.

Any other questions?

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El Mechanico
01-31-24, 21:23
Of course you need a Claro Sim and Claro phone number to use the claro app to register your phone. And if you had a Tigo sim card and phone number then you would use the Tigo app.

I think you misunderstood something in the process. If you don't have Claro then why the hell would you be using the Claro app? That's like if you had Verizon and we're trying to use the T-Mobile app.

The process is very simple I will outline it for you agn.

1.) When you are physically in Colombia purchase a Claro sim card and put a cheap plan on it at the claro store or gana or wherever (there's plans available from 3 mil to 31 mil pesos).

2.) Slap the sim card into your phone and you should have signal and data and be able to place phone calls and send/rec SMS to Colombian numbers.

3.) Now download the MiClaro App from the Playstore or Apple.

4.) Use your new phone number to register the app to your account.

5.) Within the app there will be the option to register the IMEI number of your phone with your passport or cedula so that it doesn't get blocked.

Make sure you do this within 30 days of first using the phone in Colombia or it will be blocked.

If you choose to use Tigo then the process is pretty much the same but the app is called MiTigo.

Any other questions?Thank you, sir. You are correct! I was under the incorrect assumption that I could register my phone and then buy a Sim card for a Colombian number. Obviously, as you just explained, that is backwards. I will try on my next trip and let you know. Thanks again for your help, I am a slow learner ha ha.

El Mechanico.

Mr Enternational
01-31-24, 22:13
I am calling BS on this. It is not a relatively simple process! I have tried for a half an hour and Claro App will not let me get through the registration process by using my US cell number and passport. You have to have a Claro number or a Claro Sim card in order to create an account! LOL. How are you trying to register a phone without a SIM and phone number? I agree that it is not a simple process. I could not do it on the app either, after the lady at the store told me there was no need to do it.

I bought my SIM in July and Saturday I finally got the dreaded message that if I did not register my phone by February 16 it would be blocked on their network. I immediately went to a huge Claro store in the biggest mall in Barranquilla. The lady told me it was not a service center and I would need to go to the service center Monday. The first thing Monday I went and it took the lady like 10 minutes to register my phone and passport number in the system. No Claro employee ever said you can just do it in the app. And if it took her 10 minutes on their own company computer, it does not seem simple at all.

Manizales911
01-31-24, 22:19
Thank you, sir. You are correct! I was under the incorrect assumption that I could register my phone and then buy a Sim card for a Colombian number. Obviously, as you just explained, that is backwards. I will try on my next trip and let you know. Thanks again for your help, I am a slow learner ha ha.

El Mechanico.I will add to Gabacho's advise. If you go to a Claro store they will register the phone for you when you purchase a sim card or an E-sim. To be clear, it has to be an actual Claro owned store, most of the stores with Claro signs are just authorized retailers and can NOT register the phone for you or install an E-sim.

Exoticspirit
02-01-24, 02:18
I would like to check this off the bucket list. Any recommendations?I had a nuru session with FS a few weeks ago in Toronto believe it or not. Nuru is an Asian thing so they do it best.

JjBee62
02-01-24, 02:59
Arrived Saturday night late and stayed in Rionegro to pick up my rental car on Sunday. Was waiting for my ride to the hotel within 20 minutes after the door opened, short line. Learned upon arrival that my luggage took a detour. Finally got it Sunday night.

Had a lunch invitation in Envigado at Restaurante Viejo John, right off the park. Very popular place with a long line waiting for a table. Fortunately, my hosts were already seated. Excellent comida tipica and prices seemed reasonable, although I never saw the check. If you like Colombian food, it's worth a visit.

Monday night was date night. Made the mistake of trying Denver Grill in La Strada. Not worth it. There's a small gas grill in the middle of each table. If you order a steak, you cook it yourself on the grill. So far, not bad, until the 2 ribeyes showed up. Steaks were less than a half inch thick. Convenient for quick grilling, but not worth the 110 k each price tag. Came with 1 small side dish. Food was good, just not much for the price.

Last night I visited La Mayoria in the hills above Envigado. It's a large place which is probably packed on the weekends, although not many people there on Tuesday. Friday through Sunday they have horse shows of various types at the restaurant. I chose what was described as a thick cut sirloin and got a thick cut sirloin that may have been the best steak I've had in Medellin. Service was good and good views. Long ride by taxi, but it's only 12 minutes away from where I'm staying.

Monday night exposed my date to the bar at the Mansion. Only 2 girls there when we arrived, 1 more came in a few minutes later. There were no other customers. Bartender was cute, as were 2 of the 3 girls. The third girl looked pretty rough. Stayed for 1 drink before heading to La Isla. When we left it was only the doorman, the bartender and 1 girl in the bar.

Arrived at La Isla before 10 pm, lots of girls, no customers. They now charge 100 k cover for a girl, 50 k for guys. I'm glad they weren't doing that last year when I took 3 girls. The club slowly filled with customers, although not a big crowd. Two guys were periodically making it rain, which drew almost all the girls. Almost all the customers were gringos. As for the girls, they came in all shapes and sizes. Quite a few with grossly over inflated (to me) tits and asses. Quite a few were all natural. There are always enough options to satisfy most tastes.

Can't help much with lodging, because I'm staying at an apartment in the hills above Envigado, which my hosts had available. I didn't want to stay here, but they insisted. It's free, stocked with plenty of food and wine, in a quiet location, and comfortable, but it's not exactly a convenient location. I've been grabbing breakfast or lunch with friends and have a family barbecue to attend tomorrow night. Leaving on Saturday night on the last flight out.

FunForAll37
02-01-24, 03:26
Learned a lesson tonight. Had a girl say "mi hora es $X. " Seemed like she might be saying "mi hora" in the sense of my time, so I clarified saying I'd pay her for her time but might be longer than an hour or less than an hour, and I didn't want to be rushed. I thought it was pretty clear, she said okay. Sure enough, we meet, we chat, she takes photos of course, she shows me her TikTok, she cleans herself, and then as we're getting started she informs me of the time and is looking to get double her rate. I just had her finish me orally and got her out of there as quick as possible. One of the nice things about Medellin is you don't get the clock watchers as much as American providers, but should have recognized hora for the red flag that it was. I'm just ghosting any girls that use hora in the future, like as if they cited me their American dollar rate.

Nounce
02-01-24, 04:27
...Envigado at Restaurante Viejo John, right off the park. I think that is by Sabaneta Park, good food, large portion. There is a la gloria de gloria in Envigato that is popular with ribs and huge chicharon.

Lucky Nuts
02-01-24, 05:45
This is not even a question. Medellin hands down. I don't care what anyone says LOL.

As far as my experience goes, I will never get tired of paisas. They got the best pussy in the world. Even when I was Mexico, I was still banging Colombianas there. Every single paisas gave me the GFE experience and sex did not feel mechanical unlike, mexicanas which most of them are. They loved sex as much as we do and I love hearing paisas when they moans in the bed, they have the sexiest accent. Cost wise, Medellin beats Tijuana easy. I do live in the East coast so MDE is just 6 hours away.I think there are a couple good reasons why Paisas are in fact the best. Primarily, imo, it's because the chicas here look at each of us as a potential reoccuring revenue source. Whereas in most other countries I've played the game the girls are trying to figure out how to do the least and still get the money for the one trick. They never seem to think past that one first meeting. Dumbasses. Here the chicas always ask questions to figure out how good of a future revenue stream you may become. Are they just smarter? No I think it's a cultural thing. They learn from a young age that a guy takes care of a female financially. And as they get of age they look for those sources of financial help. Gringos are a perfect fit for their mindset. And so they want us to enjoy our time together and then blow up our phones begging for more sessions. At least that's my experience. I've almost never had mechanical sex here like I've had in many other countries. Day and night difference with the paisas.

Fun Luvr
02-01-24, 05:59
I arrived at MDE tonight at about 8:15 on Copa. The line at immigration was approximately 70-80 people. It moved fairly fast. I was through it in about 20 minutes. The bags from my flight had already arrived. The bus to San Diego was almost full, so only had to wait a little while for it to leave. The bus fare is now 15,500. They also accept payment with a Metro card. Before I left the US, I used Ding to add data and minutes to my Colombian number. It's cheap. I paid for 6 days with 1g of data. Total cost was $2.68. When I arrived at MDE, everything was working. I received a message from Claro that I had added 7 days with 2g of data.

Lucky Nuts
02-01-24, 06:07
Just want to submit a PSA of sorts for anyone looking for STD testing. I use Proanalab to get tested every year or so. Whatsapp +57 321 743 0433. A 4 part panel "muestras de sangre" for HIV / Clamidia / Herpes / Sifilis is 236 mil if you visit their lab at carrera 49 #60-05 just a couple blocks north of Parque Bolivar. Or 256 mil domicillio. Same day results for HIV and 3 days for the other tests. Just FYI.

Robotron
02-01-24, 06:48
I'm a bit confused on how to safely solo travel. I've heard that you should find girls online before arriving to plan, then again meeting girls online is how you get scammed? Was thinking of making a Facebook with my real face but fake name and adding girls. Or tinder.

Then there's the possibility of being drugged. Should I completely avoid all drinks that are poured even if out at a restaurant and bar, and bring my own unopened water from a market?

Finally, should I request the girl to shower with soap and rinse with mouthwash, while watching her physically do this?

As for these "short hour hotels", I should do homework and find secure ones that have guards plus tip them to make sure I don't end up a statistic?

DownLow123
02-01-24, 07:23
I arrived in MDE tonight but forgot to pack boxers (don't ask how please) I am pretty close to unicentro Laureles. Anyone know of a store or stores around Laureles that sales mens boxers / briefs? Also, I am looking for a mini 2 serving indoor grill, something like a mini george foreman. Anyone know where I can find one of these at? I will go and check out Exito as I have to make my first run there upon entering the city anyways.

Please help LOL.

DonCarlos1234
02-01-24, 10:59
This is a strong positive for Tijuana. It seems to be Medellin 5, Tijuana 3.I was in Rio not that long ago. People rave that the beaches in Copacabana and Ipanema are the best in the world. There are upwards of 40 million people living within 100 miles. You think they will vote / mention there favorite spots? Yep but it does not make it so. Outside Rio there are much nicer beaches. IMHO I lived in Baja for 6 years. Beaches there are nice compared to the desert here in Las Vegas. When I finally made it to Colombia. It was, still is beyond comparison to Tijuana. Only the drunken debauchery and memories in Tijuana can compare. But alas the reality of "the way it was" is a lot different then those fond select memories and. Things have changed. SAVE your memories, don't pollute them by returning to disappointment. LOL Enjoy Medellin & all of Colombia.

Husker Dude
02-01-24, 16:47
Arrived Saturday night late and stayed in Rionegro to pick up my rental car on Sunday. Was waiting for my ride to the hotel within 20 minutes after the door opened, short line. Learned upon arrival that my luggage took a detour. Finally got it Sunday night.

Had a lunch invitation in Envigado at Restaurante Viejo John, right off the park. Very popular place with a long line waiting for a table. Fortunately, my hosts were already seated. Excellent comida tipica and prices seemed reasonable, although I never saw the check. If you like Colombian food, it's worth a visit.

Monday night was date night. Made the mistake of trying Denver Grill in La Strada. Not worth it. There's a small gas grill in the middle of each table. If you order a steak, you cook it yourself on the grill. So far, not bad, until the 2 ribeyes showed up. Steaks were less than a half inch thick. Convenient for quick grilling, but not worth the 110 k each price tag. Came with 1 small side dish. Food was good, just not much for the price.

Last night I visited La Mayoria in the hills above Envigado. It's a large place which is probably packed on the weekends, although not many people there on Tuesday. Friday through Sunday they have horse shows of various types at the restaurant. I chose what was described as a thick cut sirloin and got a thick cut sirloin that may have been the best steak I've had in Medellin. Service was good and good views. Long ride by taxi, but it's only 12 minutes away from where I'm staying.

Monday night exposed my date to the bar at the Mansion. Only 2 girls there when we arrived, 1 more came in a few minutes later. There were no other customers. Bartender was cute, as were 2 of the 3 girls. The third girl looked pretty rough. Stayed for 1 drink before heading to La Isla. When we left it was only the doorman, the bartender and 1 girl in the bar.

Arrived at La Isla before 10 pm, lots of girls, no customers. They now charge 100 k cover for a girl, 50 k for guys. I'm glad they weren't doing that last year when I took 3 girls. The club slowly filled with customers, although not a big crowd. Two guys were periodically making it rain, which drew almost all the girls. Almost all the customers were gringos. As for the girls, they came in all shapes and sizes. Quite a few with grossly over inflated (to me) tits and asses. Quite a few were all natural. There are always enough options to satisfy most tastes.

Can't help much with lodging, because I'm staying at an apartment in the hills above Envigado, which my hosts had available. I didn't want to stay here, but they insisted. It's free, stocked with plenty of food and wine, in a quiet location, and comfortable, but it's not exactly a convenient location. I've been grabbing breakfast or lunch with friends and have a family barbecue to attend tomorrow night. Leaving on Saturday night on the last flight out.Nice review! You arrived too early for the action. Mansion bar doesn't get going til after 10 PM and La Isla doesn't get going til midnight.

Turgid
02-01-24, 17:55
I was in Rio not that long ago. People rave that the beaches in Copacabana and Ipanema are the best in the world. There are upwards of 40 million people living within 100 miles. You think they will vote / mention there favorite spots? Yep but it does not make it so. Outside Rio there are much nicer beaches. IMHO I lived in Baja for 6 years. Beaches there are nice compared to the desert here in Las Vegas. When I finally made it to Colombia. It was, still is beyond comparison to Tijuana. Only the drunken debauchery and memories in Tijuana can compare. But alas the reality of "the way it was" is a lot different then those fond select memories and. Things have changed. SAVE your memories, don't pollute them by returning to disappointment. LOL Enjoy Medellin & all of Colombia.Medellin 8, Tijuana 3. Unless there is a dramatic change in forum opinions I'd soon be booking my umpteenth trip to Medellin. First to Medellin since covid struck and the second to Colombia since then.

JjBee62
02-02-24, 05:59
I think that is by Sabaneta Park, good food, large portion. There is a la gloria de gloria in Envigato that is popular with ribs and huge chicharon.You are correct. It was Sabaneta park.

Zeos1
02-02-24, 06:07
I'm a bit confused on how to safely solo travel. I've heard that you should find girls online before arriving to plan, then again meeting girls online is how you get scammed? Was thinking of making a Facebook with my real face but fake name and adding girls. Or tinder.

Then there's the possibility of being drugged. Should I completely avoid all drinks that are poured even if out at a restaurant and bar, and bring my own unopened water from a market?

Finally, should I request the girl to shower with soap and rinse with mouthwash, while watching her physically do this?

As for these "short hour hotels", I should do homework and find secure ones that have guards plus tip them to make sure I don't end up a statistic?Probably not the place for you.

JjBee62
02-02-24, 06:31
I'm a bit confused on how to safely solo travel. I've heard that you should find girls online before arriving to plan, then again meeting girls online is how you get scammed? Was thinking of making a Facebook with my real face but fake name and adding girls. Or tinder.

Then there's the possibility of being drugged. Should I completely avoid all drinks that are poured even if out at a restaurant and bar, and bring my own unopened water from a market?

Finally, should I request the girl to shower with soap and rinse with mouthwash, while watching her physically do this?

As for these "short hour hotels", I should do homework and find secure ones that have guards plus tip them to make sure I don't end up a statistic?I'll try to address as many of your questions as possible. Some I can't help much with because I'm no longer searching for new girls in Medellin.

There are pluses and minuses to using Facebook. A big plus is you can fairly quickly find hundreds of potential dates. A big downside is, unless you use a separate device, which has no connections to any of your other accounts, or phone number, the people on your main Facebook account will eventually get some bleed over from your mongering account. I've had a few friends and family members complain about getting friend requests from Colombian girls. Go to the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread and search for "Facebook" to find some step by step guides. Avoid Tinder.

Your risk of being drugged at a bar or restaurant, when you are alone is very low. I've never hesitated to drink whatever I wanted while out alone. However, when you are with someone, there's always a chance they will slip something in your drink, if you leave it unattended, or are distracted. One strategy is to minimize your drinking, drink slowly, small sips and to always keep your drink within sight and out of easy reach for anyone else. Avoid drinking to excess. If a girl is pushing you to drink that's a red flag. If, while you are setting up the date, the girl mentions drinking, another red flag. You're paying the girl to fuck, not to drink your booze.

Showering with a girl is excellent for foreplay, plus it ensures both of you are fresh and clean. Before the girl arrives you should secure all valuables, leaving out only what you need to pay her. Otherwise, your pants with all your stuff in the pockets, might get left where she can clean you out.

There are 2 different categories of short time hotels. In the first are the short time hotels, mostly in El Centro, where you would take street girls. You're unlikely to find any security there. You also won't be taking any Facebook girls to any of those places.

Love Motels are the other type. You also won't find anyone to tip, however, in most your risks are low. Motel Ibiza is probably the nicest. It's expensive, but a good place.

JjBee62
02-02-24, 06:35
Nice review! You arrived too early for the action. Mansion bar doesn't get going til after 10 PM and La Isla doesn't get going til midnight.I knew it would be slow, but it was a convenient place to wait for La Isla to open. I think we left La Isla at 12:30. Cops were set up on Las Palmas just after the driveway. Pulled me in and spent about 2 minutes staring at my license before letting us go.

MaddTraveler
02-02-24, 07:11
Final update before I left Medellin last Fri.

Since I stayed close to 5 Months, I confirmed w / the inmigracióand officer at the airport upon departure if I can return to complete the remainder of my visa in few days and they said no prob. Made it to Miami this week and extended / renewd my passport, tomorrow heading to BOG for few weeks, then Brazil. From BOG flights are half the cost to BRA vs FL, plus after so many months in mde it's only fair to go say Hello, to few hunnies in BOG before I leave Colombia for a while.

I know some of you vets already know this, but since most new travelers are concerned with online / app meets due to fear, I figured this would help. We all know El Poblado is expensive and a tourist trap, strip clubs arent for everyone and shady, most don't like the Centro street rats, many of us don't like the casas, so I discovered one addl great option for chicas.

En El Centro right in front of Hilton Grill club, and in both sides of that entire street, I discovered that all those bars have "bar girls". When you walk and pass by after 5-6 p you will see 5-10 girls in each bar sitting alone waiting for men. These girls are independent, cleaner chicas working, and even with my extensive experience in mde I never knew that. But I guess since I gave up on tinder and avoiding danger with online setups I started searching for more bars and in person interactions. So I spoke w some of those girls, and I was quoted 35 k bar take out fee, plus the girls could charge 150-200 k / HR, or more / less depending on her. I even asked why not 50 k like the street girls. They laughed and said most only date 1 guy or none for the night, they don't walk the street. The pretty street girls would bang 5-10 dudes a day, and it's rushed. In the bars, you get to sit in a clean environment, drink, converse, dance, and it was so worth it. I've seen many 7-9's, no seriously, def can compete with Lleras chicas, all dressed up and I think 150-200 k is fair plus seeing new fresh faces was quite a relief in that area. The few I banged were top shelf!! Wow.

Couple weeks ago one of my old novias tried to set me up, after we broke up and haven't spoken for over a month. She called and said a family member of her was kidnapped by gangs, and wanted me to help. She showed up at my apt ringing the bell without an invite, thankfully I had already moved. She came several times. I declined to help and suggested the police, she insisted they wouldn't help. I said how could I help? I'm no super ninja nor a fucking bank acct you can just call only when you need money, besides I never met that fam member, so this aint my prob. Sent those exact words. I had to make the shit clear. The audacity. But I'm quite certain it was a set up based on her prev sneaky ways. Once befofe, she sent me a video of a building on fire, said it was an arson in one of the apts from her neighborhood causing many people to be homeless, and askd if I could donate. I replied and said I will pray for those people. Of course I confirmed video was fake and old but didn't tell her that. I simply said I don't do charity, and I'm not Joe Biden. The only people I give change and some money to are the indigenous homeless I see in the streets that the Colombians treat like second class citizens. Otherwise these hoz must earn every fucking penny. I was so done with hoz that I stopped being over generous like no longer over-tip in restaurants or taxis, if no locals tip I don't tip either LOL. Fuck yall.

When I try to be polite, they think I'm easy till I tell them to fuck off then they get it. So fellas don't be a nice guy or even appear to be one.

Lastly, ran into many pedos, yes some of yall deserve to be scoped and drugged. Right in the middle of botero plaza, the police often have a van that says "proteccióand infantil" / child protection, looking for you dumb mfrs. I bumped at least 3 times into some dudes, having a long 5+ minutes convo with some minors, appears to be so, then they'd either call me to say Hello, with a fist pump / handshake, and obviously first thing I'd do is asking the girls how old are you, 17,16, then fuckers would make a face as if they didn't know. Like if you approach a young girl, first thing you should ask is her age, then maybe even proceed asking for an ID, etc. So why would you be standing there chatting for more than 2 minutes? You walk the fuck away from a minor. It's disgusting and happening in both Lleras and Centro. One old fart past 60 was bragging and dancing on how many young virgins he scored in couple years. As if it's his life's best accomplishment LOL, spend hrs and days hunting them online first. Like my dude most normal men have had those in middle school and high school years bruh. You are late at 60 sir. Like most awkward encounters and losers I come accross during my travels are always sex-deprived men, those who never got married or never had a real GF, doesn't know shit about women, and actually think they're players now paying for sex. Total fucking lunatics.

I think Medellin is a beautiful city and still a gem but clearly there are better spots that are less tense. I stopped few buddies that were on their way to visit, I asked them to slightly increase their budget and meet in BRA instead LOL.

Have fun and be safe!

John Gault
02-02-24, 17:03
Final update before I left Medellin last Friday

En El Centro right in front of Hilton Grill club, and in both sides of that entire street, I discovered that all those bars have "bar girls". When you walk and pass by after 5-6 p you will see 5-10 girls in each bar sitting alone waiting for men. These girls are independent, cleaner chicas working, and even with my extensive experience in mde I never knew that. But I guess since I gave up on tinder and avoiding danger with online setups I started searching for more bars and in person interactions. So I spoke w some of those girls, and I was quoted 35 k bar take out fee, plus the girls could charge 150-200 k / HR, or more / less depending on her. I even asked why not 50 k like the street girls. They laughed and said most only date 1 guy or none for the night, they don't walk the street. The pretty street girls would bang 5-10 dudes a day, and it's rushed. In the bars, you get to sit in a clean environment, drink, converse, dance, and it was so worth it. I've seen many 7-9's, no seriously, def can compete with Lleras chicas, all dressed up and I think 150-200 k is fair plus seeing new fresh faces was quite a relief in that area.

Have fun and be safe!I have been talking about the bar scene in that area for quite some time. I have never taken one from the bar as I just like to dance with these girls. A drink for them or you is 6 K. I have been in most of them and Bar Madrid is the best one.

DJHeywood
02-02-24, 19:55
Going through the forum but hoping for guidance. Thinking of my 1st MDE trip, flights are $300's while my other targets BOG, CAR, Tijuana, Brazil, western Euro are all $800 up to $1600 so I'd rather spend the difference on girls.

Suggestions on a simple 3-4 day. I had awesome times in Bogota & Cartagena. Found girl friendly hotels close to the clubs and were modern enough, safe. I'm too lazy to do the Facebook scene and staying short time only.

Any recs on where to stay that's close to the clubs, while modern, "safe, & girl friendly?

My plan would be to go to the clubs the first night. Have 2 or 3 girls separately. And then repeat them during the day time, adding more on following nights.

Whats current ask price? I was able to get 300-400 K in CAR clubs per 45 min, 150 K in SF clubs for 20 min.

Dcrist0527
02-02-24, 21:37
I was in Rio not that long ago. People rave that the beaches in Copacabana and Ipanema are the best in the world. There are upwards of 40 million people living within 100 miles. You think they will vote / mention there favorite spots? Yep but it does not make it so. Outside Rio there are much nicer beaches. IMHO I lived in Baja for 6 years. Beaches there are nice compared to the desert here in Las Vegas. When I finally made it to Colombia. It was, still is beyond comparison to Tijuana. Only the drunken debauchery and memories in Tijuana can compare. But alas the reality of "the way it was" is a lot different then those fond select memories and. Things have changed. SAVE your memories, don't pollute them by returning to disappointment. LOL Enjoy Medellin & all of Colombia.Your words really struck me, enough to change my flights. LOL. I was going to visit Tijuana but it was all about the nostalgia. While Medellin does not have a Hong Kong, it's also true that HK is not what it once was. And when I thought about it, there's not even one aspect where Tijuana beats Medellin. So I changed my flights and even added a few days extra hahaha but my entire trip will be in MDE.

DonCarlos1234
02-02-24, 22:08
I think Medellin is a beautiful city and still a gem but clearly there are better spots that are less tense. I stopped few buddies that were on their way to visit, I asked them to slightly increase their budget and meet in BRA instead LOL.

Have fun and be safe!Sao Paulo / Rio is a paradise, a little warmer and humid. Airbnb's cheaper, girls also but the girls are well, Brazilian! My plan is to enjoy Brazil's Costa Do Sul with a date. Today I just read there's a heavy rain warning there. LOL maybe in April. Enjoy!

Gabacho
02-02-24, 23:55
Sao Paulo / Rio is a paradise, a little warmer and humid. Airbnb's cheaper, girls also but the girls are well, Brazilian! My plan is to enjoy Brazil's Costa Do Sul with a date. Today I just read there's a heavy rain warning there. LOL maybe in April. Enjoy!Yea but what about that new stupid entry requirement where you have to show them 6 months of bank statements and have a balance of over $2000 usd and pay an $85 fee??

I think that's going to be a deal breaker for a lot of guys who may be on a tight budget.

Gabacho
02-03-24, 00:22
the first are the short time hotels, mostly in El Centro, where you would take street girls. You're unlikely to find any security there. You also won't be taking any Facebook girls to any of those places.
.I have specifically had Facebook girls meet me at parque berrio metro station and then taken them to Hotel Botero Real or Hotel Pasaje Real. I think some other poster also mentioned they do the same too.

In fact that is alot safer than bringing them to your actual place where you live or stay at.

Gabacho
02-03-24, 00:34
There are 2 different categories of short time hotels. In the first are the short time hotels, mostly in El Centro, where you would take street girls. You're unlikely to find any security there. You also won't be taking any Facebook girls to any of those places.If the original poster is concerned about being scoped and / or robbed by a Facebook girl, I would in fact recommend my method of having the Facebook girl meet him at parque berrio metro station and then take her to hotel botero real.

That way he can leave his personal belongings back at his main hotel or Airbnb and only bring his burner phone and enough cash to pay the Chica and the pieza and there is nothing extra that can be stolen from him as all his other stuff is back safe at the other place.

Also don't drink anything tell her it's sex for money there is no fucking beer involved LOL. If she wants the money she will understand and if not then that means she was up to no good. Pretty simple process.

Knowledge
02-03-24, 01:37
This discovery is documented extensively in years of posts in this forum. Also mentioned many times in this forum. It's best to avoid heavy drinking while navigating Centro.


I have been talking about the bar scene in that area for quite some time. I have never taken one from the bar as I just like to dance with these girls. A drink for them or you is 6 K. I have been in most of them and Bar Madrid is the best one.

TjBrazil
02-03-24, 04:06
Final update before I left Medellin last Fri.

Since I stayed close to 5 Months, I confirmed w / the inmigraciand officer at the airport upon departure if I can return to complete the remainder of my visa in few days and they said no prob. Made it to Miami this week and extended / renewd my passport, tomorrow heading to BOG for few weeks, then Brazil. From BOG flights are half the cost to BRA vs FL, plus after so many months in mde it's only fair to go say Hello, to few hunnies in BOG before I leave Colombia for a while.

I know some of you vets already know this, but since most new travelers are concerned with online / app meets due to fear, I figured this would help. We all know El Poblado is expensive and a tourist trap, strip clubs arent for everyone and shady, most don't like the Centro street rats, many of us don't like the casas, so I discovered one addl great option for chicas.

En El Centro right in front of Hilton Grill club, and in both sides of that entire street, I discovered that all those bars have "bar girls". When you walk and pass by after 5-6 p you will see 5-10 girls in each bar sitting alone waiting for men. These girls are independent, cleaner chicas working, and even with my extensive experience in mde I never knew that. But I guess since I gave up on tinder and avoiding danger with online setups I started searching for more bars and in person interactions. So I spoke w some of those girls, and I was quoted 35 k bar take out fee, plus the girls could charge 150-200 k / HR, or more / less depending on her. I even asked why not 50 k like the street girls. They laughed and said most only date 1 guy or none for the night, they don't walk the street. The pretty street girls would bang 5-10 dudes a day, and it's rushed. In the bars, you get to sit in a clean environment, drink, converse, dance, and it was so worth it. I've seen many 7-9's, no seriously, def can compete with Lleras chicas, all dressed up and I think 150-200 k is fair plus seeing new fresh faces was quite a relief in that area. The few I banged were top shelf!! Wow.

Couple weeks ago one of my old novias tried to set me up, after we broke up and haven't spoken for over a month. She called and said a family member of her was kidnapped by gangs, and wanted me to help. She showed up at my apt ringing the bell without an invite, thankfully I had already moved. She came several times. I declined to help and suggested the police, she insisted they wouldn't help. I said how could I help? I'm no super ninja nor a fucking bank acct you can just call only when you need money, besides I never met that fam member, so this aint my prob. Sent those exact words. I had to make the shit clear. The audacity. But I'm quite certain it was a set up based on her prev sneaky ways. Once befofe, she sent me a video of a building on fire, said it was an arson in one of the apts from her neighborhood causing many people to be homeless, and askd if I could donate. I replied and said I will pray for those people. Of course I confirmed video was fake and old but didn't tell her that. I simply said I don't do charity, and I'm not Joe Biden. The only people I give change and some money to are the indigenous homeless I see in the streets that the Colombians treat like second class citizens. Otherwise these hoz must earn every fucking penny. I was so done with hoz that I stopped being over generous like no longer over-tip in restaurants or taxis, if no locals tip I don't tip either LOL. Fuck yall.

When I try to be polite, they think I'm easy till I tell them to fuck off then they get it. So fellas don't be a nice guy or even appear to be one.

Lastly, ran into many pedos, yes some of yall deserve to be scoped and drugged. Right in the middle of botero plaza, the police often have a van that says "protecciand infantil" / child protection, looking for you dumb mfrs. I bumped at least 3 times into some dudes, having a long 5+ minutes convo with some minors, appears to be so, then they'd either call me to say Hello, with a fist pump / handshake, and obviously first thing I'd do is asking the girls how old are you, 17,16, then fuckers would make a face as if they didn't know. Like if you approach a young girl, first thing you should ask is her age, then maybe even proceed asking for an ID, etc. So why would you be standing there chatting for more than 2 minutes? You walk the fuck away from a minor. It's disgusting and happening in both Lleras and Centro. One old fart past 60 was bragging and dancing on how many young virgins he scored in couple years. As if it's his life's best accomplishment LOL, spend hrs and days hunting them online first. Like my dude most normal men have had those in middle school and high school years bruh. You are late at 60 sir. Like most awkward encounters and losers I come accross during my travels are always sex-deprived men, those who never got married or never had a real GF, doesn't know shit about women, and actually think they're players now paying for sex. Total fucking lunatics.

I think Medellin is a beautiful city and still a gem but clearly there are better spots that are less tense. I stopped few buddies that were on their way to visit, I asked them to slightly increase their budget and meet in BRA instead LOL.

Have fun and be safe!I tell you these girls are brazen as hell. They must watch a lot of Hollywood movies. My friends kidnapped, condos on fire, mother has cancer. They must think we are complete idiots. I agree with the tipping, F 'them unless you have a guy working for you getting food at other restaurants while you drink somewhere else.

VgsFun
02-03-24, 07:46
Final update before I left Medellin last Fri.

Since I stayed close to 5 Months, I confirmed w / the inmigraciand officer at the airport upon departure if I can return to complete the remainder of my visa in few days and they said no prob. Made it to Miami this week and extended / renewd my passport, tomorrow heading to BOG for few weeks, then Brazil. From BOG flights are half the cost to BRA vs FL, plus after so many months in mde it's only fair to go say Hello, to few hunnies in BOG before I leave Colombia for a while.

I know some of you vets already know this, but since most new travelers are concerned with online / app meets due to fear, I figured this would help. We all know El Poblado is expensive and a tourist trap, strip clubs arent for everyone and shady, most don't like the Centro street rats, many of us don't like the casas, so I discovered one addl great option for chicas.

En El Centro right in front of Hilton Grill club, and in both sides of that entire street, I discovered that all those bars have "bar girls". When you walk and pass by after 5-6 p you will see 5-10 girls in each bar sitting alone waiting for men. These girls are independent, cleaner chicas working, and even with my extensive experience in mde I never knew that. But I guess since I gave up on tinder and avoiding danger with online setups I started searching for more bars and in person interactions. So I spoke w some of those girls, and I was quoted 35 k bar take out fee, plus the girls could charge 150-200 k / HR, or more / less depending on her. I even asked why not 50 k like the street girls. They laughed and said most only date 1 guy or none for the night, they don't walk the street. The pretty street girls would bang 5-10 dudes a day, and it's rushed. In the bars, you get to sit in a clean environment, drink, converse, dance, and it was so worth it. I've seen many 7-9's, no seriously, def can compete with Lleras chicas, all dressed up and I think 150-200 k is fair plus seeing new fresh faces was quite a relief in that area. The few I banged were top shelf!! Wow.

Couple weeks ago one of my old novias tried to set me up, after we broke up and haven't spoken for over a month. She called and said a family member of her was kidnapped by gangs, and wanted me to help. She showed up at my apt ringing the bell without an invite, thankfully I had already moved. She came several times. I declined to help and suggested the police, she insisted they wouldn't help. I said how could I help? I'm no super ninja nor a fucking bank acct you can just call only when you need money, besides I never met that fam member, so this aint my prob. Sent those exact words. I had to make the shit clear. The audacity. But I'm quite certain it was a set up based on her prev sneaky ways. Once befofe, she sent me a video of a building on fire, said it was an arson in one of the apts from her neighborhood causing many people to be homeless, and askd if I could donate. I replied and said I will pray for those people. Of course I confirmed video was fake and old but didn't tell her that. I simply said I don't do charity, and I'm not Joe Biden. The only people I give change and some money to are the indigenous homeless I see in the streets that the Colombians treat like second class citizens. Otherwise these hoz must earn every fucking penny. I was so done with hoz that I stopped being over generous like no longer over-tip in restaurants or taxis, if no locals tip I don't tip either LOL. Fuck yall.

When I try to be polite, they think I'm easy till I tell them to fuck off then they get it. So fellas don't be a nice guy or even appear to be one.

Lastly, ran into many pedos, yes some of yall deserve to be scoped and drugged. Right in the middle of botero plaza, the police often have a van that says "protecciand infantil" / child protection, looking for you dumb mfrs. I bumped at least 3 times into some dudes, having a long 5+ minutes convo with some minors, appears to be so, then they'd either call me to say Hello, with a fist pump / handshake, and obviously first thing I'd do is asking the girls how old are you, 17,16, then fuckers would make a face as if they didn't know. Like if you approach a young girl, first thing you should ask is her age, then maybe even proceed asking for an ID, etc. So why would you be standing there chatting for more than 2 minutes? You walk the fuck away from a minor. It's disgusting and happening in both Lleras and Centro. One old fart past 60 was bragging and dancing on how many young virgins he scored in couple years. As if it's his life's best accomplishment LOL, spend hrs and days hunting them online first. Like my dude most normal men have had those in middle school and high school years bruh. You are late at 60 sir. Like most awkward encounters and losers I come accross during my travels are always sex-deprived men, those who never got married or never had a real GF, doesn't know shit about women, and actually think they're players now paying for sex. Total fucking lunatics.

I think Medellin is a beautiful city and still a gem but clearly there are better spots that are less tense. I stopped few buddies that were on their way to visit, I asked them to slightly increase their budget and meet in BRA instead LOL.

Have fun and be safe!Thanks for the report. Where is this place? I tried googling Hilton Grill Club and could not find any. Appreciate if you could help. This is useful info. Will be visiting Medellin soon for the first time!

JohnnyWishBone
02-03-24, 13:04
This is a strong positive for Tijuana. It seems to be Medellin 5, Tijuana 3.The more gringos that prefer Tijuana, the better.

JohnnyWishBone
02-03-24, 13:45
I just went to monger in plaza botero this morning. After hopping off the bus in the prado centro area where they sell stuff on the ground under the metro, I walked across the street and directly into the Plaza and straight down to the church without any checkpoint to walk through.

Theres girls around the water fountains again and sitting on the brick work of the church. The area feels more open and free again like how it always used to be pre-2023.

As far as you sissy boys who say it was better with the barriers you can still go hide behind the barriers in parque lleras. Maybe that will be your new safe place since plaza botero is no longer safe for you guys unless if you've got some real cajones LOL.

As far as my session went I found a 24 year old vennie. BBFS CIP for 80 mil and I paid for the pieza at hotel botero real still 9 mil. She was kind of mechanical and didn't like to kiss or make eye contact but she smelled and tasted clean and I got my nut off inside her so I was a happy camper.

Afterwards I talked to my homegirl Gaby out in front of the church for a bit and she agreed that is better now without the stupid barriers and things are getting back to how they used to be before.

I think maybe I'll start going down there more often again.

-Gabacho.BBFS and CIP for 80 mil is a bargain. I am returning to Medellin in May and I will be looking to get myself as many girls as physically possible. The dream is to get two girls, BBFS, CIP and creampie eating.

Gabacho
02-03-24, 16:31
BBFS and CIP for 80 mil is a bargain. I am returning to Medellin in May and I will be looking to get myself as many girls as physically possible. The dream is to get two girls, BBFS, CIP and creampie eating.In my experience a lot of the street girls will do BBFS CIP for 80 mil to 100 mil. Granted these aren't your top notch looking women LOL. I've gotten it as low as 40 mil from a candy girl but the quality (looks-wise not necessarily servicio wise) drops off considerably when seeking sub-80 mil BBFS.

Turgid
02-03-24, 16:42
The more gringos that prefer Tijuana, the better.Too late, Medellin is already completely overrun with gringos.

Mr Enternational
02-03-24, 16:52
The dream is to get two girls, BBFS, CIP and creampie eating.That is no dream. That is something that you saw in a porno that you want to recreate.

Knowledge
02-03-24, 17:41
Overrun is a strong word unless we don't consider areas other than Poblado, Laureles, north Sabaneta, Envigado, and New Life. When I am in those parts of town the difference from the rest of the city (which is almost all of the city) is very jarring.


Too late, Medellin is already completely overrun with gringos.

DownLow123
02-03-24, 18:11
Are the vendors in el centro underneath the bridge near plaza botero that sell cheap stolen phones around on Saturdays?

I know I seen them on Sunday's before.

Gabacho
02-03-24, 21:55
Are the vendors in el centro underneath the bridge near plaza botero that sell cheap stolen phones around on Saturdays?

I know I seen them on Sunday's before.They're there everyday.

Nounce
02-03-24, 22:32
Are the vendors in el centro underneath the bridge near plaza botero that sell cheap stolen phones around on Saturdays?

I know I seen them on Sunday's before.Look around in the streets in the back of of Nutibara, probably Calle 53. There ae official stores there where you can buy new ones cheap with one year warranty.

The stolen phone stands are toward Prado station on the side walk of the street near the metro route.

Nounce
02-03-24, 22:40
Thanks for the report. Where is this place? I tried googling Hilton Grill Club and could not find any. Appreciate if you could help. This is useful info. Will be visiting Medellin soon for the first time!John Gault mentioned Bar Madrid. You can just google that or google Bar Monaco if Bar Madrid does not come up. It is on the opposite side of the street toward Botero Plaza. It's a very local place so not ideal for someone that does not know the area.

I don't think what's being reported is universally true. That price does not make sense in general for the type of customers that visit the area. Besides, Mr E reported before, the girls that he talked to do not go with customer to have sex so it will depend on the girl. I am not saying the report is inaccurate but I won't generalize it. My last visit was NYE after midnight and my data expired so I had to call a taxi which was difficult there at that hour and I made a report on that

Nounce
02-03-24, 22:43
...I think that's going to be a deal breaker for a lot of guys who may be on a tight budget.That is great to hear LOL.

JjBee62
02-04-24, 00:48
If the original poster is concerned about being scoped and / or robbed by a Facebook girl, I would in fact recommend my method of having the Facebook girl meet him at parque berrio metro station and then take her to hotel botero real.

That way he can leave his personal belongings back at his main hotel or Airbnb and only bring his burner phone and enough cash to pay the Chica and the pieza and there is nothing extra that can be stolen from him as all his other stuff is back safe at the other place.

Also don't drink anything tell her it's sex for money there is no fucking beer involved LOL. If she wants the money she will understand and if not then that means she was up to no good. Pretty simple process.The only problem with that, particularly with new guys, is Parque Berrio and El Centro scares the crap out of some people. I've used a variation on that theme many times. Had the girl meet me somewhere public then take her to Motel Ibiza.

ChuchoLoco
02-04-24, 02:29
Are the vendors in el centro underneath the bridge near plaza botero that sell cheap stolen phones around on Saturdays?

I know I seen them on Sunday's before.Why keep thieves in business by buying their goods? Your phone or whatever could be up for sale soon too. Just buy a cheap one from a real store or buy second hand in USA. You can get a decent older used iPhone that does all you need for $100 online at home if you are in USA.

Zeos1
02-04-24, 06:00
Too late, Medellin is already completely overrun with gringos.Except it is very easy to live there and hardly ever see another gringo. It is overrun if you only go to the 5 percent of the city where there are gringos. And even there there are lots of times you may be the only one.

I think this idea that gringos have all this influence and are causing all these changes is simply exaggerated.

Robotron
02-04-24, 08:33
I'll try to address as many of your questions as possible. Some I can't help much with because I'm no longer searching for new girls in Medellin.

There are pluses and minuses to using Facebook. A big plus is you can fairly quickly find hundreds of potential dates. A big downside is, unless you use a separate device, which has no connections to any of your other accounts, or phone number, the people on your main Facebook account will eventually get some bleed over from your mongering account. I've had a few friends and family members complain about getting friend requests from Colombian girls. Go to the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread and search for "Facebook" to find some step by step guides. Avoid Tinder.

Your risk of being drugged at a bar or restaurant, when you are alone is very low. I've never hesitated to drink whatever I wanted while out alone. However, when you are with someone, there's always a chance they will slip something in your drink, if you leave it unattended, or are distracted. One strategy is to minimize your drinking, drink slowly, small sips and to always keep your drink within sight and out of easy reach for anyone else. Avoid drinking to excess. If a girl is pushing you to drink that's a red flag. If, while you are setting up the date, the girl mentions drinking, another red flag. You're paying the girl to fuck, not to drink your booze..Thanks for the help. I'm wanting to travel either here, Cartagena, or Brazil sometime this year for up to two weeks on a budget of 5,000 USD including flight, hotel, and girls.

Anyone know where money will go furthest, especially if you wanted GFE / BBFS / Foreplay? I get that there's always a tradeoff as subjectively hotter girls tend to be more expensive with limited service. Also time of the year that's best?

DonCarlos1234
02-04-24, 10:37
The more gringos that prefer Tijuana, the better.Tijuana is a direct connect from So Cal therefore you can easily find 100+ girls in one club with no searching needed. The Cartels have already placed them at HKTJ along with other nearby locations. As long as you are spending money they will provide great service. They have been recruited to make all the USA gringos happy. They travel there from the entire country of Mexico and yes even Colombia. Go there. Save time and $. You will have a terrific time. No guide needed. No scopolamine, no wallets stolen. Very safe. Just stay in the red light area.

MaddTraveler
02-04-24, 15:17
Thanks for the report. Where is this place? I tried googling Hilton Grill Club and could not find any. Appreciate if you could help. This is useful info. Will be visiting Medellin soon for the first time!Someone already replied with Bar Madrid which is one of them. Also not in Gmap. It's carrera 53, intersects with calle 53 so don't get them confused. There's also Bar El Country, and al huge billiard place calld Billares why Cartas, and Taberna El Tiburon (on Gmap). Not saying that's where the girls are just reference points. When I travel I sometimes take notes of places I can recall and use those for uber and taxis, also everyone knows everywhere near that area if you ask. Beware that this area isn't too fancy and not for everyone, don't get intimidated by street homeless people, nothing happens if you mind your business and stick near the bars, lots of taxis and can take uber easily.

MaddTraveler
02-04-24, 15:30
I have been talking about the bar scene in that area for quite some time. I have never taken one from the bar as I just like to dance with these girls. A drink for them or you is 6 K. I have been in most of them and Bar Madrid is the best one.Bro shit was unreal, seeing 5 - 10 girls sitting alone in each spot, bored, and 3 dudes in front begging you to go in LOL, so many walking and chasing the rats don't know about these. Obviously when they sit you can't fully see what the body looks like. But the patrons called a couple to greet us in the street, and we chatted with few first before going in and I was sold.

DoomBringer321
02-04-24, 16:44
The ones that follow my social media posts will notice that I am always roasting up the people that go to Medellin because it seems that my former compatriots have done an amazing job of raising their profile as well as getting themselves killed, robbed or drugged in the process, I believe because of due lack of diligence and stupidity but that is my opinion, however after seeing videos like this I can see why some men will risk it all, especially considering the state of the dating market in the west. This post was inspired by dcbornrob I have not been to Medellin in years but it seems that I might make a trip over there to avail myself of some entertainment.

https://youtu.be/5kHsBml5IEs?si=sECFoeYuEhpoLIxg

Dcrist0527
02-04-24, 17:44
Tijuana is a direct connect from So Cal therefore you can easily find 100+ girls in one club with no searching needed. The Cartels have already placed them at HKTJ along with other nearby locations. As long as you are spending money they will provide great service. They have been recruited to make all the USA gringos happy. They travel there from the entire country of Mexico and yes even Colombia. Go there. Save time and $. You will have a terrific time. No guide needed. No scopolamine, no wallets stolen. Very safe. Just stay in the red light area.LOL No joke, the last several times I went to the bars in Tijuana, I selceted Colombianas. I certainly didn't go looking for them. They were just simply the most attractive to me.

Towards the end of the Adelitas days, I think more than 50% were from Colombia.

Gabacho
02-04-24, 17:52
Someone already replied with Bar Madrid which is one of them. Also not in Gmap. It's carrera 53, intersects with calle 53 so don't get them confused. There's also Bar El Country, and al huge billiard place calld Billares why Cartas, and Taberna El Tiburon (on Gmap). Not saying that's where the girls are just reference points. When I travel I sometimes take notes of places I can recall and use those for uber and taxis, also everyone knows everywhere near that area if you ask. Beware that this area isn't too fancy and not for everyone, don't get intimidated by street homeless people, nothing happens if you mind your business and stick near the bars, lots of taxis and can take uber easily.These bars are nothing new. They line Cra 53 on the opposite side of the street across from the back of the museum. Alot of those girls won't have sex tho. I specifically remember talking up a girl named Wendy in one of those bars and eventhough I got her WhatsApp number she wouldn't agree to go to a pieza with me. She said she worked as a mesera only.

Quite frankly those bars are a waste of time when there are street girls right outside on the side walks that will happily fuck for 40 mil so why would I waste 6 k on beer when I don't even want to drink? And 150 mil I highly doubt the locals are paying tanto.

RamDavidson84
02-04-24, 17:57
The ones that follow my social media posts will notice that I am always roasting up the people that go to Medellin because it seems that my former compatriots have done an amazing job of raising their profile as well as getting themselves killed, robbed or drugged in the process, I believe because of due lack of diligence and stupidity but that is my opinion, however after seeing videos like this I can see why some men will risk it all, especially considering the state of the dating market in the west. This post was inspired by dcbornrob I have not been to Medellin in years but it seems that I might make a trip over there to avail myself of some entertainment.

https://youtu.be/5kHsBml5IEs?si=sECFoeYuEhpoLIxgIs that Cartagena in the video?

Dcrist0527
02-04-24, 18:01
Thanks for the help. I'm wanting to travel either here, Cartagena, or Brazil sometime this year for up to two weeks on a budget of 5,000 USD including flight, hotel, and girls.

Anyone know where money will go furthest, especially if you wanted GFE / BBFS / Foreplay? I get that there's always a tradeoff as subjectively hotter girls tend to be more expensive with limited service. Also time of the year that's best?I'll offer my opinion, based on my experience. Others will surely have different opinions. Much of the cost depends on where you shop. Personally, I've never found happiness with a centro girl. But my point is, cost varies greatly in Medellin. But if you do an apples to apples comparison (primarily casas and clubs in my case), I would say that Rio is SLIGHTLY cheaper. Honestly, I found them to be virtually the same price. Airfare to Brazil of course will be more and hotels will be more. And they have that stupid visa process coming in April. (My issue is not with having $2 k in the bank. LOL It's disclosing unnecessary info.) The food in Brazil is infinitely better.

As for the girls, looks are always subjective. Colombianas are the gold standard for my preference. Brazil is a very close second. And as far as services, I'm stating the obvious but it will depend on the girl. BBBJ is pretty much the standard in both locations. BBFS is available in either location. I generally don't take that risk but I don't think it's generally more likely in one country vs the other.

Perhaps the biggest distinction I'd draw between Medellin and Rio is the performance. And I'm not saying either is bad. But in MDE, typically I get the GFE. They are caring, more tender. In Rio, they want you to have the best sex of your life. It's like an olympic sport to them. There are benefits to both. But I think, again. Just my experience. That is the biggest difference.

5 k should get you a good time in either locale. But the airfare and hotel costs to Rio are a bit steeper.

Gabacho
02-04-24, 18:03
Why keep thieves in business by buying their goods? Your phone or whatever could be up for sale soon too. Just buy a cheap one from a real store or buy second hand in USA. You can get a decent older used iPhone that does all you need for $100 online at home if you are in USA.The OP asked a simple question about whether or not the stolen phone vendors were there on Saturday. He didn't ask for your ethical input nor did he state that he was actually going to buy a stolen phone.

Combo
02-04-24, 18:25
Tijuana is a direct connect from So Cal therefore you can easily find 100+ girls in one club with no searching needed. The Cartels have already placed them at HKTJ along with other nearby locations. As long as you are spending money they will provide great service. They have been recruited to make all the USA gringos happy. They travel there from the entire country of Mexico and yes even Colombia. Go there. Save time and $. You will have a terrific time. No guide needed. No scopolamine, no wallets stolen. Very safe. Just stay in the red light area.For guys that live in the Southwest US, Tijuana is certainly a great option. For those of us in the East or Midwest, probably not so much.

Butch145
02-04-24, 18:41
Well another quick trip to Medellin.

Just a reminder make sure you have the Migracion form filled out before you get to airport. Can't check in until its done, which is what happen to me. I lucked out and still made the flight.

Flight on AA was cancelled and had to wait until next morning to fly into medellin.

Wait a pain in the ass waiting in immigrations. Takes a good 1 hour or longer.

Thanks to Miami boy advice stayed again at 3/33 airbnb.

My plan usually try to meet 3 girls a day- morning afternoon and evening.

Since flight arrived around 2 pm and 1 hour in Immigration and another 35 min drive to airbnb.

Coordinated 3 some for 4:30 pm, figure by than buy viagra across the street and it should kick in by the time they arrive. Cost per each girl 250,000 plus taxi 50,000 Raw Friendly.

3 some was perfect and did not disappoint, they worked me non stop until I was drained.

Next chick was scheduled for 8 pm was a bit disappointed, great looking and of course nice thin body but disappointing service 300,000 (raw friendly).

Day two in morning chick was fine and did the deed cost 250,000 + 20,000 taxi (raw friendly).

Next girl was around 2 pm, she asked before coming over if I wanted her to bring a vibrator for use to enjoy, sure why not. Well her son saw her taking it so she couldn't bring it with her. Oh well.

We chatted for a bit about the things she likes doing in bed. She was on top and did the usual and when I proceeded to go into missionary position she took control again and made put into her ass without lube. Jesus it was hard to penetrate but she was enjoying her self this way and I was not.

After that we took a shower and had her do a rimjob on me and shipped her home cost 250,000 and after her I had no chance to see another girl that night.

Flight was scheduled around 1 am back to Miami and again it was cancelled.

Next morning finally a flew back to Miami.

All my find was on Facebook on this trip, in the past I used to use Seeking.

Lots of food places in walking distance again thanks to miami boy for all the restaurant suggestion.

I was a bit concerned I bought around 80 Viagra pills and was worried it could be an issue. I took all of them out of the pack and put into a medicine bottle. Easier to get in Colombia and cost cheaper than in USA.

DJHeywood
02-04-24, 22:04
Well another quick trip to Medellin.

Just a reminder make sure you have the Migracion form filled out before you get to airport. Can't check in until its done, which is what happen to me. I lucked out and still made the flight.

Flight on AA was cancelled and had to wait until next morning to fly into medellin.

Wait a pain in the ass waiting in immigrations. Takes a good 1 hour or longer.

Thanks to Miami boy advice stayed again at 3/33 airbnb.

My plan usually try to meet 3 girls a day- morning afternoon and evening.

Since flight arrived around 2 pm and 1 hour in Immigration and another 35 min drive to airbnb.

Coordinated 3 some for 4:30 pm, figure by than buy viagra across the street and it should kick in by the time they arrive. Cost per each girl 250,000 plus taxi 50,000 Raw Friendly.

3 some was perfect and did not disappoint, they worked me non stop until I was drained.

Next chick was scheduled for 8 pm was a bit disappointed, great looking and of course nice thin body but disappointing service 300,000 (raw friendly).

Day two in morning chick was fine and did the deed cost 250,000 + 20,000 taxi (raw friendly).

Next girl was around 2 pm, she asked before coming over if I wanted her to bring a vibrator for use to enjoy, sure why not. Well her son saw her taking it so she couldn't bring it with her. Oh well.

We chatted for a bit about the things she likes doing in bed. She was on top and did the usual and when I proceeded to go into missionary position she took control again and made put into her ass without lube. Jesus it was hard to penetrate but she was enjoying her self this way and I was not.

After that we took a shower and had her do a rimjob on me and shipped her home cost 250,000 and after her I had no chance to see another girl that night.

Flight was scheduled around 1 am back to Miami and again it was cancelled.

Next morning finally a flew back to Miami.

All my find was on Facebook on this trip, in the past I used to use Seeking.

Lots of food places in walking distance again thanks to miami boy for all the restaurant suggestion.

I was a bit concerned I bought around 80 Viagra pills and was worried it could be an issue. I took all of them out of the pack and put into a medicine bottle. Easier to get in Colombia and cost cheaper than in USA.Migracion form. Maybe it depends on the airline? I've flown into Bogota twice and Cartagena on LATAM / Delta and never had Mig checked. Plus 1 time I couldn't even get the website to function. Unless Medellin itself matters if flying into direct.

AmorPorFavor
02-05-24, 00:26
The ones that follow my social media posts will notice that I am always roasting up the people that go to Medellin because it seems that my former compatriots have done an amazing job of raising their profile as well as getting themselves killed, robbed or drugged in the process, I believe because of due lack of diligence and stupidity but that is my opinion, however after seeing videos like this I can see why some men will risk it all, especially considering the state of the dating market in the west. This post was inspired by dcbornrob I have not been to Medellin in years but it seems that I might make a trip over there to avail myself of some entertainment.

https://youtu.be/5kHsBml5IEs?si=sECFoeYuEhpoLIxgThat is Cartagena. Go there.

KeviKev68
02-05-24, 04:22
Migracion form. Maybe it depends on the airline? I've flown into Bogota twice and Cartagena on LATAM / Delta and never had Mig checked. Plus 1 time I couldn't even get the website to function. Unless Medellin itself matters if flying into direct.When I used Avianca to fly into Medellin I think they have a different process than the American or foreign airlines. That was the only benefit of flying Avianca I did not have to worry about Check Mig.

Nounce
02-05-24, 04:39
...
Since I stayed close to 5 Months, I confirmed w / the inmigraciand officer at the airport upon departure if I can return to complete the remainder of my visa in few days and they said no prob. ...Colombia resets the date on Jan 1st. You can stay about 5 more months if you enter now. You can and should double check this.

MaddTraveler
02-05-24, 04:58
Colombia resets the date on Jan 1st. You can stay about 5 more months if you enter now. You can and should double check this.Yo, I've been coming to Colombia for years and this is 100% wrong.

Well, maybe it used to be that way at some point since I'm not that old, but this is not what's in the Col official sites, this is not what the immigration offer told me, this is not what the stamp reflects in my passport, nor the extended 3 months renewal I did in Dec that expires in March.

In about 5 months in Mde I've heard at least 25 different versions from lost and out of touch gringos (not you.) but this shit gets funny af. Once while I sat with a buddy in a cafe discussing this, an old Canadian lady in her 70's was nearby walking her dog and overheard us and came and joined the convo. She joked as to why so many are spreading wrong info, about the tourist visa and the digital nomad visa, when the fucking info is right on the darn official website? Like Mfrs can't read. We had a good laugh at that. She's been living in Mde for yrs.

Soooo, legally you can only stay in Colombia for up to 180 days from your date of arrival as a tourist, (not 6 months). Your first initial stamp is 90 days, then you can renew / extend for another 90 if approved. After which you must wait another 180 days before you return. New year has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with your dates. Rules are diff obviously for various visas. Currently I can get a biz visa, digital nomad visa (can be approved for 6 mo to 2 yrs), etc. I just don't want to, I prefer to travel for a while to other countries after I finish my 180 days.

In any case, I still appreciate the intel, but it is incorrect friend.

MaddTraveler
02-05-24, 05:06
These bars are nothing new. They line Cra 53 on the opposite side of the street across from the back of the museum. Alot of those girls won't have sex tho. I specifically remember talking up a girl named Wendy in one of those bars and eventhough I got her WhatsApp number she wouldn't agree to go to a pieza with me. She said she worked as a mesera only.

Quite frankly those bars are a waste of time when there are street girls right outside on the side walks that will happily fuck for 40 mil so why would I waste 6 k on beer when I don't even want to drink? And 150 mil I highly doubt the locals are paying tanto.This same argument can be said for girls at parque lleras, la isla, that charge 300-600 k or higher. Diff budgets and styles for everyone. Street girls are for quick rush fun mostly in dirty rooms for that 40 k and I've done 100's of them. But at times I want to sit down, grab a drink, dance, converse, in a clean environment. Not like I'm paying 50 k girl drink like they do in parque lleras, for 6 k? For fuck's sake. That's not even cheap, this is free according to my budget LOL. But yes the ones I met fuck. But again I didn't go to all of them and maybe some don't. To me any girl above 7/8 deserves 150/200 k for non rushed time spent. I meant we spend time chatting, dancing, build chemistry, trust me it's good cheap fun bro. But I get it, when you live there most days 40-50 k is the way to go, then on weekend why not have a little more fun.

Mr Enternational
02-05-24, 05:16
These bars are nothing new. They line Cra 53 on the opposite side of the street across from the back of the museum. Alot of those girls won't have sex tho.I thought they were on to something new or things had changed. The chicks in those bars are for drinking and dancing with you, not fucking.

MaddTraveler
02-05-24, 05:44
These bars are nothing new. They line Cra 53 on the opposite side of the street across from the back of the museum. Alot of those girls won't have sex tho. I specifically remember talking up a girl named Wendy in one of those bars and eventhough I got her WhatsApp number she wouldn't agree to go to a pieza with me. She said she worked as a mesera only.

Quite frankly those bars are a waste of time when there are street girls right outside on the side walks that will happily fuck for 40 mil so why would I waste 6 k on beer when I don't even want to drink? And 150 mil I highly doubt the locals are paying tanto.You're like the 2nd or 3rd guy who mention some of those girls on that fuck on Cra 53. I know exactly why LOL. You admitted yourself you don't want to drink or don't drink. It works the same way as those bars in Pattaya Thailand, you can't just take their number from the front of the bar in the street and ask them to go with you, that's always against the rules even though they are independent. Few of my buddies tried that and didn't work, sometimes they won't even give you their number. That entire setting is for you to go inside, sit, drink, and then pay the bar take out fee and negotiate your price with the girl and you can take her to your hotel. Thailand is the main spot where that's common. But trust me every female working in that area will fuck. Even P4 P requires some game.

Medclubber
02-05-24, 15:57
Just saw this scene from "Colombian star" (it seems to be her first ever porn scene) Sofia Silk, shot from an apartement in Medellin, just for the fun of it thought someone here might have banged her? https://vrlatina.com/video/latina-barbie-424.html.

Mr Enternational
02-05-24, 16:07
You're like the 2nd or 3rd guy who mention some of those girls on that fuck on Cra 53. I know exactly why LOL. You admitted yourself you don't want to drink or don't drink. It works the same way as those bars in Pattaya Thailand, you can't just take their number from the front of the bar in the street and ask them to go with you, that's always against the rules even though they are independent. Few of my buddies tried that and didn't work, sometimes they won't even give you their number. That entire setting is for you to go inside, sit, drink, and then pay the bar take out fee and negotiate your price with the girl and you can take her to your hotel. Thailand is the main spot where that's common. But trust me every female working in that area will fuck. Even P4 P requires some game.I do not know why your buddies are having problems. I have lived in Pattaya for 15 years and that is how I have always done it. I get the girl's contact and come back to pick her up when the bar closes. P4P requires no game the same as buying a hamburger in McDonald's requires no game. It is a business transaction. That is why it is galled PAY for play and not game for play. Money talks and so-called game walks. Save your game for chicks that do not require payment.

I used to date a Mexican chick in my city. She told me about some of the Mexican clubs in my city that were the exact same as 53. Guys would go there and pay chicks $5 to dance with them. It may sound weird, but there are all kinds and there is something for everyone.

JohnnieCash
02-05-24, 16:12
Even P4 P requires some game.Not exactly the game per-se just some common sense and situational awareness of how these businesses operate, understanding they need to extract some money first and that the girl have no obligation to fuck, this isn't a casa. She gets a commission for the drinks, plus a daily salary for manning the bar. Doesn't meant she won't want to fuck eventually or later when she's not observed and in a different environment. Admittedly some of these bars are more like lonely-hearts clubs but it is no accident there are many ST hotels next door to these establishments and that the take out fee exists. For point and shoot quick-let's-fuck-now there are other places.

I know of some SWs that worked these bars, couple of them quit because they actually didn't like drinking so much, or so they say. But they did fuck the customers that's for sure. One got kicked out because she didn't show up on time and regularly LOL (nothing like being true SW freelancer, no obligations, no boss, sleep however long you want, show up whenever, go home whenever).

MaddTraveler
02-05-24, 16:32
Exactly. What you are saying is that it is a waste of money and a waste of time you're just saying it in different words. Why would I want to waste money on beer and bar fines when I can fuck the street girls with that same money. Those girls aren't special just because they sit inside a bar. Fuck that.Hey bruh, I promise I won't make you upset man. I am trying to change, cause I know you always lecture dudes on here that are wasting money and ruining the game.

Anything above $10 Usd or 40 k is a waste. In fact I will quit having fun, no more taking girls out, no gifts, no clothing or jewelry even for myself, no cines, no more cigars, no playa or jetskis, no more football parties, no billiards, telling all homies to kick rocks since now in total isolation. I might as well eat less and join a diet. I'm going to disregard my stupid double six fig income and pretend I'm on a disability social security income and adjust all budgets accordingly. You got it sir.

ChuchoLoco
02-05-24, 17:13
When I used Avianca to fly into Medellin I think they have a different process than the American or foreign airlines. That was the only benefit of flying Avianca I did not have to worry about Check Mig.I just did my MIG as COPA required. It's on the list of required documents or something like that. Went fairly smoothly after I used their drop-downs instead of typing in the answer. I only fly COPA and always need the MIG.

Gabacho
02-05-24, 17:27
Yo, I've been coming to Colombia for years and this is 100% wrong.

Well, maybe it used to be that way at some point since I'm not that old, but this is not what's in the Col official sites, this is not what the immigration offer told me, this is not what the stamp reflects in my passport, nor the extended 3 months renewal I did in Dec that expires in March.

In about 5 months in Mde I've heard at least 25 different versions from lost and out of touch gringos (not you.) but this shit gets funny af. Once while I sat with a buddy in a cafe discussing this, an old Canadian lady in her 70's was nearby walking her dog and overheard us and came and joined the convo. She joked as to why so many are spreading wrong info, about the tourist visa and the digital nomad visa, when the fucking info is right on the darn official website? Like Mfrs can't read. We had a good laugh at that. She's been living in Mde for yrs.

Soooo, legally you can only stay in Colombia for up to 180 days from your date of arrival as a tourist, (not 6 months). Your first initial stamp is 90 days, then you can renew / extend for another 90 if approved. After which you must wait another 180 days before you return. New year has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with your dates. Rules are diff obviously for various visas. Currently I can get a biz visa, digital nomad visa (can be approved for 6 mo to 2 yrs), etc. I just don't want to, I prefer to travel for a while to other countries after I finish my 180 days.

In any case, I still appreciate the intel, but it is incorrect friend.I think you are the one who cannot read LOL. Here I found you the information that pertains to this. It specifically states you cannot stay more than 180 days in a "Calender year" but once the year has changed to a new year you can leave Colombia for a day and then return and the clock resets. Nowhere does it say that you have to stay out of Colombia for 180 days again before you return, that would only hold true if you had stayed from Jan thru Jul then you wouldn't be able to come back again until the next January. But if you came in July you could stay a max of 180 days then leave and come back Jan 1st of the next calendar year and get a new 90 days (extendable to 180 days with a prorrogar).

I suspect the 70 year old lady didn't know what she was talking about you mentioned that she had lived here for years so obviously she is on a visa and not using the 180 days.

Also the immigration officers speak Spanish and you speak English. Whether they told you what they told you in broken English or you tried asking in broken Spanish obviously something got lost in translation and you didn't understand what he said or he didn't know how to explain to you in English what he was trying to tell you.

As you can see it is clearly written here in this screen shot in the second paragraph. Also we have real life accounts of how this worked as I mentioned in my previous post from. Osteoknot who came at the tail end of 2021, maxed out his 180 then went to Panama for a day and came back in January of 2022 and was given a new 90 days without having to wait 180 days to come back again.

It's ironic that you say people are spreading false information when you in fact are the person spreading false information.

Nounce
02-05-24, 17:32
Yo, I've been coming to Colombia for years and this is 100% wrong.....You can clarify this when you visit Colombia next time.

Stl24
02-05-24, 17:33
I've mostly been looking in the Lleras Park area for lodging but I'm open to other areas. In terms of what I'm looking for in lodging is the ability to pickup street girls and bring them back to my place (well versed in security and situational awareness of staying safe). What areas are best to stay in to pickup street girls and bring them back to my hotel / airbnb?

Gabacho
02-05-24, 17:36
You can clarify this when you visit Colombia next time.He should brush up on his español first before he comes back so that he can understand what the immigration officer is telling him.

Nounce
02-05-24, 17:39
I thought they were on to something new or things had changed. The chicks in those bars are for drinking and dancing with you, not fucking.I remember you reported that. There are some bars actually have room on site that you can drink with the girls and take her to the room. It's a a bar setting but also works like a casa. They are mostly scattered a little bit north and there was one in downtown.

PigSavinBoy
02-05-24, 18:22
There are some bars actually have room on site that you can drink with the girls and take her to the room. It's a a bar setting but also works like a casa. They are mostly scattered a little bit north and there was one in downtown.Any names / addresses / directions?

MaddTraveler
02-05-24, 18:34
You can clarify this when you visit Colombia next time.This is already confirmed. No such thing as a reset w new year. I'm already back in Col. In Bogota since Friday.

Fun Luvr
02-05-24, 19:08
Soooo, legally you can only stay in Colombia for up to 180 days from your date of arrival as a tourist, (not 6 months). Your first initial stamp is 90 days, then you can renew / extend for another 90 if approved. After which you must wait another 180 days before you return. New year has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with your dates.If you are outside Colombia, the days in-country reset on January 1. If you are in Colombia, they do not reset until you leave after January 1. There is no 180 days wait time unless you enter January 6th or 7th and stay 180 days consecutively. I've been in Colombia more than 170 days, but less than 180, each of the last two years. I left near the end of December each year and returned in January and got a 90 days stamp. Near the end of the year, most of the immigration officers only give me the number of days I have under 180 for that year. So, yes, a new year has everything to do with your dates for a tourist visa unless you are already in Colombia at the beginning of a year.

AmorPorFavor
02-05-24, 21:53
https://www.elcolombiano.com/amp/medellin/investigan-la-muerte-de-dos-estadounidenses-en-laureles-y-el-poblado-IB23668808?fbclid=IwAR02J_podec8gLP6oySjnstgYysOUhJUOBxc1I_VVlou-Q8jZueFKU5XiXY

The Cane
02-05-24, 22:59
Medellin 8, Tijuana 3. Unless there is a dramatic change in forum opinions I'd soon be booking my umpteenth trip to Medellin. First to Medellin since covid struck and the second to Colombia since then.You might want to bro:

https://www.elcolombiano.com/amp/medellin/investigan-la-muerte-de-dos-estadounidenses-en-laureles-y-el-poblado-IB23668808?fbclid=IwAR02J_podec8gLP6oySjnstgYysOUhJUOBxc1I_VVlou-Q8jZueFKU5XiXY

Exoticspirit
02-05-24, 23:23
Given the current safety issues and the fact that my Spanish is limited, I've come up with a general plan for my first trip to Medellin and wondering what you experienced guys think of it (whether it's an itinerary that I would be happy with). I would stay for only 4-5 nights since it would be an extension of a scuba diving trip in the Caribbean. To make the accommodations as hassle free as possible, I would opt to pay a bit of a premium to stay at the Hotel M (formerly known as the Mansion) where it is already set up for monger tourists. I could pull girls from the same location during the daytime and nighttime knowing that they are already pre-screened, ie. , low risk of drugging or robbing me plus a known price range. I understand that their staff can also arrange for airport transits and drives to other tourist sites at a reasonable cost if I should utilize them.

During the daytime, I might visit New Life and Loutron. Then at night I would just stay at the Hotel M bar except for one night I might visit La Isla just to say I've been there whether I pull from there or not. In all of these external venues, I would just use their rooms.

I might stroll through Parque Ileras again just to say I've been there but not really pull any girl from there since that becomes more risky business especially for a first timer visitor like me. I would think that with the combination of Hotel M and the above mentioned external venues, I would have more than plenty in terms of girl action for my short trip.

So what do you guys think? Would this be enough for a first trip sampler of Medellin? Or would I be really missing out on something else that I did not consider including?

DJHeywood
02-05-24, 23:31
Given the current safety issues and the fact that my Spanish is limited, I've come up with a general plan for my first trip to Medellin and wondering what you experienced guys think of it (whether it's an itinerary that I would be happy with). I would stay for only 4-5 nights since it would be an extension of a scuba diving trip in the Caribbean. To make the accommodations as hassle free as possible, I would opt to pay a bit of a premium to stay at the Hotel M (formerly known as the Mansion) where it is already set up for monger tourists. I could pull girls from the same location during the daytime and nighttime knowing that they are already pre-screened, ie. , low risk of drugging or robbing me plus a known price range. I understand that their staff can also arrange for airport transits and drives to other tourist sites at a reasonable cost if I should utilize them.

During the daytime, I might visit New Life and Loutron. Then at night I would just stay at the Hotel M bar except for one night I might visit La Isla just to say I've been there whether I pull from there or not. In all of these external venues, I would just use their rooms.

I might stroll through Parque Ileras again just to say I've been there but not really pull any girl from there since that becomes more risky business especially for a first timer visitor like me. I would think that with the combination of Hotel M and the above mentioned external venues, I would have more than plenty in terms of girl action for my short trip.

So what do you guys think? Would this be enough for a first trip sampler of Medellin? Or would I be really missing out on something else that I did not consider including?I'd be interested too, I'm looking at a similar itinerary but instead just thought of having a nice Airbnb in Poblado that has security check in. Then Ubering to the clubs. Hotel M seems nice you get day time girls more safely but I don't know the quality or prices. Also if they allow outside / agency girls.

At least the Airbnb would be nicer and more in the middle of Isla Gustos Fase dos.

Gabacho
02-05-24, 23:47
Hey bruh, I promise I won't make you upset man. I am trying to change, cause I know you always lecture dudes on here that are wasting money and ruining the game.

Anything above $10 Usd or 40 k is a waste. In fact I will quit having fun, no more taking girls out, no gifts, no clothing or jewelry even for myself, no cines, no more cigars, no playa or jetskis, no more football parties, no billiards, telling all homies to kick rocks since now in total isolation. I might as well eat less and join a diet. I'm going to disregard my stupid double six fig income and pretend I'm on a disability social security income and adjust all budgets accordingly. You got it sir.LOL I'm not saying anything about all the other shit, I'm just saying for me, I wouldn't want to spend extra just because they sit inside a bar. The other shit has nothing to do with it. I go to the cine and mcdonald's and popsy too, no need to be an asshole.

Gabacho
02-05-24, 23:52
As always whenever some of you are at home with no money to travel you just come here to troll and argue. I mean this must be a trolling post.

Because what you're telling me is that the Colombian officials are wrong. And the visa extension they gave me from Dec to March is also wrong and I should have had a reset? Lmfao. Lame ass troll bro.

Whatever, argue among urselves, pointless discussion.No I'm saying you misunderstood what the Colombian officials told you.

The extrension (prorrogar) carries over into the next year, this is true. But it is also true that you get 180 days per calendar year that reset as of Jan 1st of each year. You can stay up until the date of the extension the. You have to leave but you can come right back the next day and will be issued a new 90 days because you are now in a new year and haven't hit the 180 or even 90 day mark yet.

Double six figure salary but not very intelligent LOL??

DownLow123
02-05-24, 23:52
Look around in the streets in the back of of Nutibara, probably Calle 53. There ae official stores there where you can buy new ones cheap with one year warranty.

The stolen phone stands are toward Prado station on the side walk of the street near the metro route.Thank you, found them no problem with your recommendation!


The OP asked a simple question about whether or not the stolen phone vendors were there on Saturday. He didn't ask for your ethical input nor did he state that he was actually going to buy a stolen phone.Couldn't have said it any better. Board would be 100 x better if people left there ethical BS to there-selves.

DownLow123
02-05-24, 23:58
https://www.elcolombiano.com/amp/medellin/investigan-la-muerte-de-dos-estadounidenses-en-laureles-y-el-poblado-IB23668808?fbclid=IwAR02J_podec8gLP6oySjnstgYysOUhJUOBxc1I_VVlou-Q8jZueFKU5XiXYThink it's not a spike in crime in medellin, but rather the amount of gringo's who touched down here now. I can't go anywhere without seeing at least one every 5 minutes. There fucking everywhere. Saw one drinking while on his big ass phone at 6 pm when it was getting dark on the outskirts of elcentro. The fuck you thinks going to happen in a foreign country?

Your going to see more and more dead gringos (RIP) due to simply the influx of them.

Walked by one wearing a gold chain yesterday on the border of Belen and Laureles. SMH. Though it's really tough for me to say this as I think any loss of life due to crime is beyond wrong but some of the gringos deserve that shit.

Paulie97
02-06-24, 01:05
Though it's really tough for me to say this as I think any loss of life due to crime is beyond wrong but some of the gringos deserve that shit.Since when dies someone deserve to die for wearing a gold chain? We can rightly tell people that they need to be more careful overseas, but announcing that they are deserving of death is something else altogether. No wonder you had trouble saying it. There's better and more accurate way of making your point, they don't let animals off the hook.

Paulie97
02-06-24, 01:13
Colombia is full of crime victims that weren't wearing gold chains. Therefore if you point to the stupidest of actions then tell yourself, "as long as I don't do that I'm fine," then you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

Dcrist0527
02-06-24, 02:21
Given the current safety issues and the fact that my Spanish is limited, I've come up with a general plan for my first trip to Medellin and wondering what you experienced guys think of it (whether it's an itinerary that I would be happy with). I would stay for only 4-5 nights since it would be an extension of a scuba diving trip in the Caribbean. To make the accommodations as hassle free as possible, I would opt to pay a bit of a premium to stay at the Hotel M (formerly known as the Mansion) where it is already set up for monger tourists. I could pull girls from the same location during the daytime and nighttime knowing that they are already pre-screened, ie. , low risk of drugging or robbing me plus a known price range. I understand that their staff can also arrange for airport transits and drives to other tourist sites at a reasonable cost if I should utilize them.

During the daytime, I might visit New Life and Loutron. Then at night I would just stay at the Hotel M bar except for one night I might visit La Isla just to say I've been there whether I pull from there or not. In all of these external venues, I would just use their rooms.

I might stroll through Parque Ileras again just to say I've been there but not really pull any girl from there since that becomes more risky business especially for a first timer visitor like me. I would think that with the combination of Hotel M and the above mentioned external venues, I would have more than plenty in terms of girl action for my short trip.

So what do you guys think? Would this be enough for a first trip sampler of Medellin? Or would I be really missing out on something else that I did not consider including?I'd always recommend the mansion for a first time visitor with limited Spanish. Very safe option. And the knowledge you'll gain from fellow mongers staying there is invaluable. You can always hit up a casa or club with one of them. As for the girls at the mansion, they are very safe and service has always been from really good to great. Going rate used to be 250. I've heard it's up to 300 k. I dare say you'll find some better looking girls in Lleras. But without a doubt you'll find girls MORE than adequate at the mansion.

Your plans seem exceptionally safe, with the exception of Lleras. There's definitely more risk in Lleras. The risk isn't being in the area, though I suppose anything can happen at any time. The risk is the girls are more of a wildcard. Personally, I love Lleras. It's fun. So I'm not discouraging you but you'll need to do alot more vetting of the girls than any of your other options mentioned. Also, good to know (and another poster asked) you can always bring girls back to the mansion. The girls need a cedula. Alot of Vennies in Lleras so before you invest the time, be sure they have proper ID. There's never a fee for bringing a girl back but they are tight on ID. And we should be thankful for that.

Dcrist0527
02-06-24, 02:51
Since when dies someone deserve to die for wearing a gold chain? We can rightly tell people that they need to be more careful overseas, but announcing that they are deserving of death is something else altogether. No wonder you had trouble saying it. There's better and more accurate way of making your point, they don't let animals off the hook.Well said. This board has taken a turn for the worse. I have thick skin so it's almost impossible to offend me. But between the laughable dick measuring contests about who knows more, who's more of a badass, or mocking how others spend their own money, it's just pathetic. I always wonder why random dudes on a hooker board get off on playing these infantile games with guys they'll never meet. Is there some prize I don't know about by bragging about some stupid shit that can't even be verified?

Stl24
02-06-24, 02:58
I am having a little bit of difficulty in finding the Hotel M or Mansion Hotel. If anyone can point me in the direction with an address or a link I would appreciate it. Also looking for any other locations besides close to Lleras that has street girls readily available that are safe to stay in. Another side note, I don't speak Spanish so keep that in mind LOL.

I a very experienced traveler including several locations that have the crime profile of what I'm reading about on the forum and online.


I've mostly been looking in the Lleras Park area for lodging but I'm open to other areas. In terms of what I'm looking for in lodging is the ability to pickup street girls and bring them back to my place (well versed in security and situational awareness of staying safe). What areas are best to stay in to pickup street girls and bring them back to my hotel / airbnb?

Exoticspirit
02-06-24, 03:52
Your plans seem exceptionally safe, with the exception of Lleras. There's definitely more risk in Lleras. The risk isn't being in the area, though I suppose anything can happen at any time. The risk is the girls are more of a wildcard. Personally, I love Lleras. It's fun. So I'm not discouraging you but you'll need to do alot more vetting of the girls than any of your other options mentioned. Also, good to know (and another poster asked) you can always bring girls back to the mansion. The girls need a cedula. Alot of Vennies in Lleras so before you invest the time, be sure they have proper ID. There's never a fee for bringing a girl back but they are tight on ID. And we should be thankful for that.I wouldn't be pulling girls from Ileras anyway. It would rather be just a stroll to take in the scene from a visual point of view maybe admiring the eye candy. I would rather just return back to the hotel M to pull a girl.

Combo
02-06-24, 04:22
Colombia is full of crime victims that weren't wearing gold chains. Therefore if you point to the stupidest of actions then tell yourself, "as long as I don't do that I'm fine," then you are setting yourself up for disappointment.Yes, but wearing a gold chain is one is several things that greatly increase your chances of being a victim.

ElSexoChino7
02-06-24, 04:52
I wouldn't be pulling girls from Ileras anyway. It would rather be just a stroll to take in the scene from a visual point of view maybe admiring the eye candy. I would rather just return back to the hotel M to pull a girl.Ain't nothing wrong with pulling girls from LLeras. You'll find a lot of variety in LLeras and I'm pretty sure you'll find what you're looking for there. I'd recommend you to go there after midnight. Your sweet spot would be around 2-3 am or after the clubs closed. All the girls will be outside, you will have better options and better negotiations. You can use Google translate, but still recommend to learn basic Spanish to talk to the girls. I've met few girls in LLeras that gave me GFE experience and best sex experience from there. I still talk to them till now and always see them whenever I'm in town. Don't limit yourself to the mansion. If you decide to pick up girls from LLeras, just practice extra caution and always follow your gut instinct, if something doesn't feel right just moved on to the next one, there's plenty of them. Weekends is the best time to go there for full mongering experience. Always bring your common sense with you and try to think with the bigger head as much as possible.

Robotron
02-06-24, 09:42
https://www.elcolombiano.com/amp/medellin/investigan-la-muerte-de-dos-estadounidenses-en-laureles-y-el-poblado-IB23668808?fbclid=IwAR02J_podec8gLP6oySjnstgYysOUhJUOBxc1I_VVlou-Q8jZueFKU5XiXYIs everyone here in agreement that Rio is safer?

It's my understanding that in those articles, those men already had connections as nomads built within the city and a target grew on their back as time passed. One was in an hotel, whose guards allowed the female to exit without the man. Something that could've been avoided by going to a hotel with securities who check ID and need the man to be present. I presume if you the woman understands she's being watched by a bribed security, she won't mess around, especially if foreigners pay for a premium hotel as insurance for their safety?

I haven't visited Colombia yet, but it seems that if you follow the rules there shouldn't be an issue. Yes, crimes occur all the time. Still, stick to crowded areas, don't show off, don't walk off a pre planned route or into an alley, don't goto the womans incall, hotel, place, no matter what.

Would it be rude for you to plainly tell the girl to keep her hands where you can see them all time and leave her bags near the door while's she with you?

For those of you who don't look like the "gringo", do you find it easier to fit in, get serviced, and not be targeted? I'm not white, and want the girls to know I have cash but at the same time not get overpriced by being from the US.

Turgid
02-06-24, 14:29
.......Walked by one wearing a gold chain yesterday on the border of Belen and Laureles. SMH. Though it's really tough for me to say this as I think any loss of life due to crime is beyond wrong but some of the gringos deserve that shit.I have a theory that the more pussy a man gets the less irate he becomes. Get at it dude!

TomTom336
02-06-24, 14:40
I am having a little bit of difficulty in finding the Hotel M or Mansion Hotel. If anyone can point me in the direction with an address or a link I would appreciate it.http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/

Mr Enternational
02-06-24, 14:47
Is everyone here in agreement that Rio is safer?

It's my understanding that in those articles, those men already had connections as nomads built within the city and a target grew on their back as time passed. One was in an hotel, whose guards allowed the female to exit without the man. Something that could've been avoided by going to a hotel with securities who check ID and need the man to be present. I presume if you the woman understands she's being watched by a bribed security, she won't mess around, especially if foreigners pay for a premium hotel as insurance for their safety?You think criminals care about any of this? Laws and rules only impede the people that that will abide by them. Whether they allowed the woman to leave without the man or not, the man would still be dead. Personally, I have never worried about whether a place is so-called safe or not.

Villainy
02-06-24, 15:09
Walked by one wearing a gold chain yesterday on the border of Belen and Laureles. SMH. Though it's really tough for me to say this as I think any loss of life due to crime is beyond wrong but some of the gringos deserve that shit.
Since when dies someone deserve to die for wearing a gold chain? We can rightly tell people that they need to be more careful overseas, but announcing that they are deserving of death is something else altogether. No wonder you had trouble saying it. There's better and more accurate way of making your point, they don't let animals off the hook.DESERVE might have been a rather strong choice of words but his point isn't far off. It is Darwinian natural selection in our modern world. People who come to Colombia to monger or do drugs without understanding the culture and without bothering to learn the language even to a minimal degree are at risk. Then to compound things, some visitors have to show off their wealth by wearing gold chains or flashy watches and / or expensive clothes and pull out their iphones in public. Then they invite a girl to their apartment that has no check-in safeguards and then want to drink with their girl guests. Is it any wonder that they get drugged and robbed and some die or get killed.

This is natural selection at work in the modern world.

Yuvaraj
02-06-24, 15:40
I stayed in Hotel M in last month and posted my review. I didn't feel unsafe at all. One thing I might do slightly differently is to go LLeras park area and bring a girl back to the hotel since they don't charge any guest fee. Is LLeras walkable from Hotel M?


Ain't nothing wrong with pulling girls from LLeras. You'll find a lot of variety in LLeras and I'm pretty sure you'll find what you're looking for there. I'd recommend you to go there after midnight. Your sweet spot would be around 2-3 am or after the clubs closed. All the girls will be outside, you will have better options and better negotiations. You can use Google translate, but still recommend to learn basic Spanish to talk to the girls. I've met few girls in LLeras that gave me GFE experience and best sex experience from there. I still talk to them till now and always see them whenever I'm in town. Don't limit yourself to the mansion. If you decide to pick up girls from LLeras, just practice extra caution and always follow your gut instinct, if something doesn't feel right just moved on to the next one, there's plenty of them. Weekends is the best time to go there for full mongering experience. Always bring your common sense with you and try to think with the bigger head as much as possible.

Dcrist0527
02-06-24, 15:48
Is everyone here in agreement that Rio is safer?I would say for general, random crime, Medellin is actually safer. But that's kind of luck of the draw. I think there is less concern about girls setting you up in Rio, yes.


Would it be rude for you to plainly tell the girl to keep her hands where you can see them all time and leave her bags near the door while's she with you?If it comes to this, is it worth it? I'm not mocking your question. But if I ever had to do that, I can promise you I would not enjoy the session. I'm not telling you to throw caution to the wind. But if this is what your gut is telling you, I suspect MDE is probably not a good idea for you.

Nounce
02-06-24, 17:10
I am having a little bit of difficulty in finding the Hotel M or Mansion Hotel. If anyone can point me in the direction with an address or a link I would appreciate it. Also looking for any other locations besides close to Lleras that has street girls readily available that are safe to stay in. Another side note, I don't speak Spanish so keep that in mind LOL.

I a very experienced traveler including several locations that have the crime profile of what I'm reading about on the forum and online.Didn't you get the answer already?


Thanks, I appreciate it!

DJHeywood
02-06-24, 18:35
Is everyone here in agreement that Rio is safer?

It's my understanding that in those articles, those men already had connections as nomads built within the city and a target grew on their back as time passed. One was in an hotel, whose guards allowed the female to exit without the man. Something that could've been avoided by going to a hotel with securities who check ID and need the man to be present. I presume if you the woman understands she's being watched by a bribed security, she won't mess around, especially if foreigners pay for a premium hotel as insurance for their safety?

I haven't visited Colombia yet, but it seems that if you follow the rules there shouldn't be an issue. Yes, crimes occur all the time. Still, stick to crowded areas, don't show off, don't walk off a pre planned route or into an alley, don't goto the womans incall, hotel, place, no matter what.

Would it be rude for you to plainly tell the girl to keep her hands where you can see them all time and leave her bags near the door while's she with you?

For those of you who don't look like the "gringo", do you find it easier to fit in, get serviced, and not be targeted? I'm not white, and want the girls to know I have cash but at the same time not get overpriced by being from the US.Rio safer than Medellin is hard to make an objective comparison. You can find trouble if you want it as easily as if you were in Atlanta or Baltimore. Even in rich districts the rules of situational awareness apply.

If a woman really wants to mess with you she can. There's always some level risk, heck she could chomp down on your dick. Having rapport with security & trying to avoid lodgings she may have contacts with are helpful.

If I'm worried about a woman's hands & her bags, then that's too big a red flag for me to continue the service. You should be able to overpower her, 3 somes on a 1st date to me are a big No. Asking her to shower with you is what I've done, let's do some foreplay, hygiene, and then assurance for no scope on her.

I'm not white, I've had Colombianas think I'm a dark skinned Colo / Cuban / Dominican, still your body frame, how you walk, and especially how you talk will give you away. You can always say no, negotiate, or walk away.

Trip Cyclone
02-06-24, 18:48
...of food places in walking distance again thanks to miami boy for all the restaurant suggestion.

I was a bit concerned I bought around 80 Viagra pills and was worried it could be an issue. I took all of them out of the pack and put into a medicine bottle. Easier to get in Colombia and cost cheaper than in USA.What's a good place to buy sildenafil / viagra in bulk? I went to a couple pharmacies during my last trip and it seemed like everywhere had it, but they would sell like 2 or 4 pills in a package.

MaddTraveler
02-06-24, 19:01
Since when dies someone deserve to die for wearing a gold chain? We can rightly tell people that they need to be more careful overseas, but announcing that they are deserving of death is something else altogether. No wonder you had trouble saying it. There's better and more accurate way of making your point, they don't let animals off the hook.I appreciate you calling this out. Clearly lots of aholes on here. Yet I'm the bad guy when I mock them for their rudeness. Mfrs would argue here here and say I ruin their life for overpaying women, on places they don't go or can't afford to go. Dudes would be home jerking off and bitter so they come here to disrespect others. When I read that comment I'm like death? Unless someone's a pedo or committing crimes, you shouldn't wish them harm for living their lives and spending their hard earned money.

I often go 6 mo or longer without reporting and posting, then occasionally I'd either get bored or excited and post a report. And quickly I'm reminded and re-educated on the multitudes of jerks here. Not all obviously.

Combo
02-06-24, 19:10
Is everyone here in agreement that Rio is safer?

For those of you who don't look like the "gringo", do you find it easier to fit in, get serviced, and not be targeted? I'm not white, and want the girls to know I have cash but at the same time not get overpriced by being from the US.Rio? Are you serious? Brasil and Colombia both have well-deserved reputations for being dangerous. That said, if you follow certain guidelines, you can reduce, though not eliminate, your chances of being a victim. I've been to both places dozens of times and haven't been a victim (though a couple close calls).

As far as your appearance, it might make a difference. But there have been Black, Latino, and Asian victims of these crimes against foreigners (I believe the article en El Colombiano references a Latino victim, though doesn't say where he's from). It's more important how you act than how you look. Don't throw around money, don't wear jewelry, watch your drink, stay in a place with a reception, etc.

It's also worth mentioning that Colombians themselves get "scoped." It's not limited to foreigners.

Husker Dude
02-06-24, 22:39
I stayed in Hotel M in last month and posted my review. I didn't feel unsafe at all. One thing I might do slightly differently is to go LLeras park area and bring a girl back to the hotel since they don't charge any guest fee. Is LLeras walkable from Hotel M?It's walkable about a mile. Depends on the girl if she is willing to walk. LOL Be sure she has valid cedula to enter Hotel M.

Lefeu
02-06-24, 23:39
... Depends on the girl if she is willing to walk. LOL Be sure she has valid cedula to enter Hotel M.Haha don't count on it. A working girl would not walk from lleras to the mansion, not practical.

Combo
02-07-24, 00:27
Haha don't count on it. A working girl would not walk from lleras to the mansion, not practical.Not many would. Also there are some quiet spots along that walk (around Parque La Presidenta) that are prime mugging spots. I'll run if I'm alone but not if walking with a chick.

Dcrist0527
02-07-24, 00:54
I stayed in Hotel M in last month and posted my review. I didn't feel unsafe at all. One thing I might do slightly differently is to go LLeras park area and bring a girl back to the hotel since they don't charge any guest fee. Is LLeras walkable from Hotel M?Is it walkable? Yes. I've done it many times. I've never felt unsafe doing so. But depending on your familarity with the area, comfort level on dark streets, I'm sure some would say it's foolish. But you could avoid the shortcut and take a longer route staying on two very busy streets. That said, uber is super cheap. It'll cost you probably a couple dollars. I'd recommend uber to get you close. Depending on the route, it's probably easiest to walk the last two blocks due to insane traffic.

However, I do not think any chica would be agreeable to that walk. LOL It's not a difficult walk, but it takes 15 minutes, give or take. And it's mostly flat. But I highly doubt any girl would do it. And again, a couple bucks to uber is money well spent.

One word of caution. I've read alot of stories about dangerous taxis leaving lleras. I've never had a problem with them. But uber is probably the safer option.

Gabacho
02-07-24, 01:20
Haha don't count on it. A working girl would not walk from lleras to the mansion, not practical.He can get an indriver from. Lleras to the mansion for relatively cheap tho.

Gabacho
02-07-24, 01:26
Another gringo bites the dust, this time in La Floresta.

https://youtu.be/aZ549MGckD8?si=y3H4ktT-jL8UnkXu

Follow Along.

Lucky Nuts
02-07-24, 01:59
I am having a little bit of difficulty in finding the Hotel M or Mansion Hotel. If anyone can point me in the direction with an address or a link I would appreciate it. Also looking for any other locations besides close to Lleras that has street girls readily available that are safe to stay in. Another side note, I don't speak Spanish so keep that in mind LOL.

I a very experienced traveler including several locations that have the crime profile of what I'm reading about on the forum and online.Heard from reliable sources the mansion is going through a transition end of this month. Transition as in ownership change and probably it will no longer be what it has been. So you might want to look into other options.

Husker Dude
02-07-24, 02:09
Heard from reliable sources the mansion is going through a transition end of this month. Transition as in ownership change and probably it will no longer be what it has been. So you might want to look into other options.I've heard no daytime chicas at pool now. Chicas allowed in hotel M1 by appointment only. Bar opens at 6 PM with all chicas can enter.

ElSexoChino7
02-07-24, 03:40
I stayed in Hotel M in last month and posted my review. I didn't feel unsafe at all. One thing I might do slightly differently is to go LLeras park area and bring a girl back to the hotel since they don't charge any guest fee. Is LLeras walkable from Hotel M?Uber from LLeras to the mansion is less than $2 USD. Save that energy and stamina for fucking LOL.

Yuvaraj
02-07-24, 03:59
Yeah. Thanks. That was the intent of the question that if LLeras and M are not too far from each other but clearly I didn't ask the question properly. .


Uber from LLeras to the mansion is less than $2 USD. Save that energy and stamina for fucking LOL.

Yuvaraj
02-07-24, 04:00
Meaning, we will have only fewer number of girls by the pool?


I've heard no daytime chicas at pool now. Chicas allowed in hotel M1 by appointment only. Bar opens at 6 PM with all chicas can enter.

DJHeywood
02-07-24, 04:20
Meaning, we will have only fewer number of girls by the pool?With that uncertainty of a roster, need to Uber, & the sound that the Hotel itself isn't high quality I'll likely pass on it.

In Cartagena I was able to knock off 50-150 K cop from club girls bc my place was 1 block away. Some initially assumed I was in Bocagrande Laguito 15-20 min drive away.

Husker Dude
02-07-24, 05:58
Meaning, we will have only fewer number of girls by the pool?I said NO chicas allowed at pool. They can only enter with an appointment & must leave after from the info I am getting.

LoveItHere69
02-07-24, 08:59
Since when dies someone deserve to die for wearing a gold chain? We can rightly tell people that they need to be more careful overseas, but announcing that they are deserving of death is something else altogether. No wonder you had trouble saying it. There's better and more accurate way of making your point, they don't let animals off the hook.There is a certain level of stupidity that demands consequences whether you know it or not or like it or not. Example. Let's say you have girlish attributes and go to prison with no dress code and you choose to keep wearing shorts that have an arrow aimed at your A-hole that says "Please enter here! You then get raped in your A-hole. You were too stupid to assume what would happen? Now I should feel sorry for you? Stupid games stupid prizes.

Exoticspirit
02-07-24, 13:39
With that uncertainty of a roster, need to Uber, & the sound that the Hotel itself isn't high quality I'll likely pass on it.

In Cartagena I was able to knock off 50-150 K cop from club girls bc my place was 1 block away. Some initially assumed I was in Bocagrande Laguito 15-20 min drive away.Being the only mongering focused hotel around, I wouldn't think that even new management would want to risk losing that status and business model.

TonyEm
02-07-24, 14:49
Hi, are there any late evening / night casas around centro? I can only session after 6-7 pm but equally don't want to be the last customer when the girls are tired and prepping to go home. Thanks.

Yuvaraj
02-07-24, 15:46
This is not good news. Hopefully thy reconsider it.


I said NO chicas allowed at pool. They can only enter with an appointment & must leave after from the info I am getting.

Dcrist0527
02-07-24, 15:56
Being the only mongering focused hotel around, I wouldn't think that even new management would want to risk losing that status and business model.I have no first hand knowledge about this, though I will reach out to a few friends there today. But you make an excellent point.

Granted, it's one of a few hotels that would be very girl friendly. But that's about the only benefit. I suppose having a room above the bar would be a plus. But there's no real benefit there because I take the girls to a better hotel. And the girls prefer that.

To your point, it's unique in that is is a mongering hotel. It's also baffling that they would change the model because they're usually at 100% capacity.

But they've always had to battle some politics. Their neighbors are not fans of the place. And they have had their share of issues with the city, be it licensing or complaints.

All that said, why would you buy that place and then eliminate the number one draw? It's not like anyone goes there for a luxury room. And the location isn't horrible but it's not walking distance to anything a monger wants except for a few massage places in Rio Sur. That would be an odd purchase, in my opinion.

Exoticspirit
02-07-24, 22:03
I have no first hand knowledge about this, though I will reach out to a few friends there today. But you make an excellent point.

Granted, it's one of a few hotels that would be very girl friendly. But that's about the only benefit. I suppose having a room above the bar would be a plus. But there's no real benefit there because I take the girls to a better hotel. And the girls prefer that.

To your point, it's unique in that is is a mongering hotel. It's also baffling that they would change the model because they're usually at 100% capacity.

But they've always had to battle some politics. Their neighbors are not fans of the place. And they have had their share of issues with the city, be it licensing or complaints.

All that said, why would you buy that place and then eliminate the number one draw? It's not like anyone goes there for a luxury room. And the location isn't horrible but it's not walking distance to anything a monger wants except for a few massage places in Rio Sur. That would be an odd purchase, in my opinion.The closest that I see for this type of hotel is Blackbeard's resort in Dominican Republic where every guest is a monger and they have prescreened girls in their pool area. I'm actually surprised that Medellin has not opened another establishment like Hotel M since it's such a great business model.

Dcrist0527
02-08-24, 00:24
The closest that I see for this type of hotel is Blackbeard's resort in Dominican Republic where every guest is a monger and they have prescreened girls in their pool area. I'm actually surprised that Medellin has not opened another establishment like Hotel M since it's such a great business model.Excellent comparison. One significant distinction. At the mansion, the girls are independent and set their own prices, whereas Blackbeards is a set price. But I'm splitting hairs.

It is a great business model. The problem is it pushes legal boundaries. (That is one of the constant challenges for ownership.)

Mr Enternational
02-08-24, 00:30
The closest that I see for this type of hotel is Blackbeard's resort in Dominican Republic where every guest is a monger and they have prescreened girls in their pool area. I'm actually surprised that Medellin has not opened another establishment like Hotel M since it's such a great business model.If it was such a great business model then you would see more. The truth of the matter is that it is probably not worth the headache.

Combo
02-08-24, 00:42
Being the only mongering focused hotel around, I wouldn't think that even new management would want to risk losing that status and business model.They may not have a choice. The neighbors hate the Mansion. The police have been all over them for years. It's possible that it's been made clear that they either change their "business model" or be shut down for good (I have no inside knowledge).

Exoticspirit
02-08-24, 00:51
They may not have a choice. The neighbors hate the Mansion. The police have been all over them for years. It's possible that it's been made clear that they either change their "business model" or be shut down for good.Hmm, I'll have to confirm with them before I book a room for the spring.

Dcrist0527
02-08-24, 03:05
I have no first hand knowledge about this, though I will reach out to a few friends there today. But you make an excellent point.

Granted, it's one of a few hotels that would be very girl friendly. But that's about the only benefit. I suppose having a room above the bar would be a plus. But there's no real benefit there because I take the girls to a better hotel. And the girls prefer that.

To your point, it's unique in that is is a mongering hotel. It's also baffling that they would change the model because they're usually at 100% capacity.

But they've always had to battle some politics. Their neighbors are not fans of the place. And they have had their share of issues with the city, be it licensing or complaints.

All that said, why would you buy that place and then eliminate the number one draw? It's not like anyone goes there for a luxury room. And the location isn't horrible but it's not walking distance to anything a monger wants except for a few massage places in Rio Sur. That would be an odd purchase, in my opinion.For what it's worth: the employees are not aware if it is being sold. They are telling me that they know something is going on. But, they also say there is always something rumored to be happening. It's fair to say they are worried but also not convinced it will be sold. I've talked to a few of the chicas and they are hearing a lot of rumors but nothing concrete.

For those planning a trip yet haven't made reservations, if it was me I would wait it out. Unless their policies have changed, you have to pay one night to hold the reservation. I wouldn't sink the $100, but that's just my opinion.

IntBond0
02-08-24, 05:00
Same tactics used in Colombia, Brazil and these other places.

https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhn22OdQZ9ZZ30z8u3/migrants-on-a-62-robbery-crime-spree-early-in-nyc

L00PY
02-08-24, 05:51
Hi, are there any late evening / night casas around centro? I can only session after 6-7 pm but equally don't want to be the last customer when the girls are tired and prepping to go home. Thanks.The casas action switches over to the strip clubs at that time. A similar number of women but the on-site rooms are much, much worse. Likely a little more expensive too. You could pretty much walk into one, do a lap to check out all the girls on the floor at the time, and make your selection from whomever catches your eye.

Zeos1
02-08-24, 14:09
If it was such a great business model then you would see more. The truth of the matter is that it is probably not worth the headache.The location they are in, the property, is probably worth a lot more if it were developed for something else, so there is that possible motivation to sell. Plus the area is not zoned for sex related activities, and there are no other types of casas or massage places or such on Avenida Poblado or a block off as in this case. And there is a huge anti-sextourism push going on in Medellin, not just recently, but I think gaining steam as various hotels sign on to not allow any such activities. So perhaps this place gets targeted by those activists and then has to stay very low key. I know the fact that the pool area could be seen from surrounding buildings was an issue, and that has been restricted. Anyway.

Turgid
02-08-24, 14:48
...... choose to keep wearing shorts that have an arrow aimed at your A-hole that says "Please enter here! You then get raped in your A-hole. You were too stupid to assume what would happen? Now I should feel sorry for you? Stupid games stupid prizes.If a dude in jail wears shorts that have an arrow aimed at his A-hole that says "Please enter here! and gets raped I don't think he'd complain, I think he'd be in glee.

Ullo200
02-08-24, 15:51
Hi,

Looking to book hotel Nutibara but is a little confused as should I book for one person or 2 as per my past experience with they don't bother to check if you have booking for 2 or 1 person until someone stay at night and you want breakfast for two people, almost every time they just take the photo copy of the cedula and let the girl in, any input from members on it?

Thanks.

Ullo200
02-08-24, 15:58
Listen, in hotel Nutibura you can bring for free 1 girl per day in your room after 6 pm. They never asked me to pay 70 k.

And almost all the girls I meet on facebook look the same in real but each time, before a girl come to me in my hotel, I always ask her to answer me on video on messenger or whasapp. If they don't want to do, I refuse the meeting.Even if you paid for one person for room, also can girl stay with you at night?

TonyEm
02-08-24, 18:44
The casas action switches over to the strip clubs at that time. A similar number of women but the on-site rooms are much, much worse. Likely a little more expensive too. You could pretty much walk into one, do a lap to check out all the girls on the floor at the time, and make your selection from whomever catches your eye.Thanks, will look into that.

DaddyLou37
02-08-24, 20:02
Few things first, thank you to all for the tips and whatnot. Have been to MDE twice, going again this year in May. You guys have helped so much with reports and whatnot. Thank you.

Any recommended outcall massage services? Found some previously on milerotics I think but was left unhappy. Last time some people staying close to us had some "massuses" come over that were amazing. Saw them leaving and couldn't get their info.

Going to be 5-6 people with us. Will be staying at Paris Suites right by Lleras Park and guest are not an issue. Stayed at Europa previously but less people going so downsizing.

Also best sites for escorts? Lacelestina seems to have died off. Even though previous trips we had better luck hitting local bars and bringing a group of girls back to the penthouse to party, I still like to see what's out there.

Also recommened chefs? Found a few online that were too overpriced.

DJHeywood
02-08-24, 20:05
For what it's worth: the employees are not aware if it is being sold. They are telling me that they know something is going on. But, they also say there is always something rumored to be happening. It's fair to say they are worried but also not convinced it will be sold. I've talked to a few of the chicas and they are hearing a lot of rumors but nothing concrete.

For those planning a trip yet haven't made reservations, if it was me I would wait it out. Unless their policies have changed, you have to pay one night to hold the reservation. I wouldn't sink the $100, but that's just my opinion.Thanks for the info. That kills my plan for Hotel M. I'd rather just stay at one of the pretty nice several airbnbs near Lleras with security.

Yuvaraj
02-08-24, 20:49
Can you give the name of those airbnbs please? I'm looking to go back in Spring. I spoke with the hotel today and they confirmed that there will be no girls by the pool in the afternoons. So I'm looking for girls friendly airbnbs that is not too far from hotel m (I just like the area with casino and starbucks etc).


Thanks for the info. That kills my plan for Hotel M. I'd rather just stay at one of the pretty nice several airbnbs near Lleras with security.

Exoticspirit
02-09-24, 03:39
Thanks for the info. That kills my plan for Hotel M. I'd rather just stay at one of the pretty nice several airbnbs near Lleras with security.How would we confirm if any Airbnb listings have security on site?

Knowledge
02-09-24, 03:43
Luna Lunera used to be my after work go to option back in my business traveler days. Like all the night time venues, they charge a bit more than the casas. Speaking of casas, I popped into Aiffe earlier this week. I don't mean to be unkind but I must say they right now have one of the worst lineups I've seen in a long time in a Centro casa.


The casas action switches over to the strip clubs at that time. A similar number of women but the on-site rooms are much, much worse. Likely a little more expensive too. You could pretty much walk into one, do a lap to check out all the girls on the floor at the time, and make your selection from whomever catches your eye.

Phreeman69
02-09-24, 04:54
Long time monger trying Medellin for the first time with another 65 year old friend. We've got a apartment up in Provenza with a jacuzzi for three nights (Monday / Tues / Wedn), and we both speak a fair amount of Spanish. I'm used to Sosua (and a bit of Costa Rica and Cartegena too) and wondering if my typical practices are going to fly with Facebook girls and those we might find in the Lleras area.

After chatting ladies up in a public place like a bar, I make sure they agree that: I'll pay them at the end, GFE ("trato de novia" in Colombia?) with DFK ("besos con lengua" BBBJ ("oral natural" and a propina if they make me come (not a given after sport fucking for a few days). (how do they say "come" in Colombian? And is it the same word for a woman's orgasm?

Is that going to fly in Medellin? I figure we'll line up pairs of FB girls for the day and cruise the local bars / park at night. (bear in mind weeknights) Will the FB girls meet us in a bar or coffee shop downstairs for a chat before we bring them up? If there's no chemistry and we send them on their way, what is fair, like 50-100 k each?

I'm building up a FB harem in advance (20 so far) but the LaCelestina. Co girls look hot too. Am I right that the agency girls are going to be more punctual, more expensive for less time, and maybe more consistent performance-wise? I'm hoping the FB cuties might be more fun to hang out with in the jacuzzi. I do see us drinking with the girls back at the apartment, and while that doesn't seem super stupid (two guys, good building security), might the agency girls be a bit safer?

Thanks for your thoughts, and all the background already on the forum. Count on a detailed report from me later.

DaddyLou37
02-09-24, 04:56
How would we confirm if any Airbnb listings have security on site?On the AirBnb listing look at the more info or reviews. If the property has a security guard one of those two places will usually mention it. Also look at the guest policy. If it states a generic "additional guests need to be confirmed with the host" etc then most likely can't bring anyone back. So avoid those places.

If anyone on the listing it states "bachelor party friendly" then you're usually good to go. But just message the host if needed and ask if local guests are allowed.

I've only stayed at Europa Suites which is on Calle 38 I think, a stones throw away from Lleras Park. The place is lavish. Super nice. 2 story penthouse with jacuzzi and 10 bedrooms, 2 of which also have jacuzzis on room. They do have separate rooms but almost 200 a night. But comes with jacuzzi in room and can't beat the location if you want to be near Lleares Park.

Have seen plenty on AibBnb for 100-130 a night.

DaddyLou37
02-09-24, 05:09
Long time monger trying Medellin for the first time with another 65 year old friend. We've got a apartment up in Provenza with a jacuzzi for three nights (Monday / Tues / Wedn), and we both speak a fair amount of Spanish. I'm used to Sosua (and a bit of Costa Rica and Cartegena too) and wondering if my typical practices are going to fly with Facebook girls and those we might find in the Lleras area.

After chatting ladies up in a public place like a bar, I make sure they agree that: I'll pay them at the end, GFE ("trato de novia" in Colombia?) with DFK ("besos con lengua" BBBJ ("oral natural" and a propina if they make me come (not a given after sport fucking for a few days). (how do they say "come" in Colombian? And is it the same word for a woman's orgasm?

Is that going to fly in Medellin? I figure we'll line up pairs of FB girls for the day and cruise the local bars / park at night. (bear in mind weeknights) Will the FB girls meet us in a bar or coffee shop downstairs for a chat before we bring them up? If there's no chemistry and we send them on their way, what is fair, like 50-100 k each?

I'm building up a FB harem in advance (20 so far) but the LaCelestina. Co girls look hot too. Am I right that the agency girls are going to be more punctual, more expensive for less time, and maybe more consistent performance-wise? I'm hoping the FB cuties might be more fun to hang out with in the jacuzzi. I do see us drinking with the girls back at the apartment, and while that doesn't seem super stupid (two guys, good building security), might the agency girls be a bit safer?

Thanks for your thoughts, and all the background already on the forum. Count on a detailed report from me later.Not super experienced, but I've had the best luck going to some of the local bars and getting the girls from there to head back and party at the Airbnb. Would only recommend if you have security (we have 2 armed guards at our Airbnb that checks all girls IDs and wouldn't let a few in).

Agency girls (in my experience) are more all business. You're on the clock as soon as they show up, so drinking or whatever for a hour or so will cost. Just felt more transactional. Getting a good little group from Park Lleras or another bar / club around had worked best for us.

But I do like having the agency's as I can set something up in 10 min max while laying in bed or on the toilet and can't beat that.

Lastly I never dove into the FB girls (just too much time and effort) but the last 20 or so pages of this thread are most filled with the risks of FB / dating site girls.

MarquisdeSade1
02-09-24, 12:58
I'm reading back a few pages and it seems MDE is attracting interest from some newcomers despite all the crime warnings, are those warnings attracting them?

It reminds me of the late 70's and very early 80's, we lived in a very nice area of Chicago, but nonetheless there was a wave of heroin overdoses for an extended period.

And the people dying werent from the area, some bikers were selling heroin and the buyers would get in their parked cars, shoot up and die.

It was even on the tv news which I think drove more deaths, the news said there was a very potent type of heroin hitting this area, called Mexican mud or black tar, or its latest cuter name.

Maybe for the female junkies "tootsie roll".

My theory some people are sheeple and live by the monkey see monkey do mentality.

The see MDE has pussy on the news and they book a flight nevermind the rest of the story talking about all the murders.

Not unlike the dead junkies in Chicago in the 70's or even today.

Again I'm very surprised by the number of newcomers, this website alone has hundreds of other places to visit.

But they want to goto to the thee most dangerous city in the world to monger, I can't think of another city in the entire world you're more likely to get killed in as a foreign monger.

I don't see as many repeat visitors posting? Maybe they know better, as we all know nature abhors a vacuum.

So in comes the newcomer!!

May God be with all of you!!

Nounce
02-09-24, 17:01
How would we confirm if any Airbnb listings have security on site?They are just doormen, not really security to keep mongers safe. It still happened in hotels and buildings with security. The robbers don't think like you do, otherwise we would not see so many caught on videos.

Zeos1
02-09-24, 17:43
How would we confirm if any Airbnb listings have security on site?If the Airbnb is in a condo building chances are there is security to allow people into the building. And some of the buildings have rules where the security people have to take information from non owners or non registered guests, such as looking at their ID. And confirming whether the host for that unit is ok with you bringing in visitors.

Anyway, if you see a unit that is in that type of building chances are it has security, but that does not mean it is totally safe as another post points out.

Airbnbs that are just independent apartments, or part of the hosts house, may not have any sort of security, but often do not allow guests especially if the host family is next door. The only way to know is to ask before you confirm your booking and pay.

Orgasmico
02-09-24, 17:49
Speaking of casas, I popped into Aiffe earlier this week. I don't mean to be unkind but I must say they right now have one of the worst lineups I've seen in a long time in a Centro casa.The Centro Casa scene kinda died off after C19 for a number of reasons. Salute to those that got to enjoy it during the good old days when there were 2 4 1 specials.

Exoticspirit
02-09-24, 21:17
Again I'm very surprised by the number of newcomers, this website alone has hundreds of other places to visit.

But they want to goto to the thee most dangerous city in the world to monger, I can't think of another city in the entire world you're more likely to get killed in as a foreign monger.

I don't see as many repeat visitors posting? Maybe they know better, as we all know nature abhors a vacuum.

So in comes the newcomer!!

May God be with all of you!!I would be one of those MDE newcomers. It's either bag the Colombian girls in Costa Rica, Panama City or at the source in MDE. But my first trip to MDE would not be involved in bringing any girls to my room unless it's at the Hotel M (mansion) and it would be those from its pool / bar area. Other times like on day visits to New Life and Loutron, I would be utilizing their own rooms. Even for a night visit to La Isla I would elect to use one of their internal rooms too. I would use Uber / taxi for all transits. This might all seem super conservative but hopefully it reduces any safety issues. The only time I might consider a looser strategy is if I'm with a group of other fellow mongers I might meet down there. Again, it's this way or just go to Costa Rica or Panama City for the Colombians.

Gilolo
02-09-24, 22:17
I have the impression that some people on this site do everything to prevent new men from coming to Medellin or elsewhere in Colombia by making them believe that the country is extremely dangerous and that the girls will rob them, or kidnap them, or kill. In fact, I think above all that they are afraid, that they will no longer be able to enjoy the most beautiful women of Medellin all to themselves. I went to Colombia twice this year, and I visited the whole country, and I fucked a lot of working girls I met on Facebook or in the casas of Medellin or in the street in El Centro and even Colombian pornstars and I had no problems! Plus I fucked them all bareback! I simply paid a little more! Afterwards, I didn't have any problems either, because I'm a kind, generous man, I don't drink, and I don't smoke. Now it's true that I pay a little more than the other members of this site, because I like to fuck beautiful, sexy working girls between 18 and 25 years old. And even though I'm quite a good-looking guy, I would have a hard time finding the same quality of sexy girls in my country for such little money. So YES, I don't mind paying pretty working girls between $30 and $120. As long as I get what I want and the girl is super hot, I don't mind paying that much every day for 2 weeks.


I'm reading back a few pages and it seems MDE is attracting interest from some newcomers despite all the crime warnings, are those warnings attracting them?

It reminds me of the late 70's and very early 80's, we lived in a very nice area of Chicago, but nonetheless there was a wave of heroin overdoses for an extended period.

And the people dying werent from the area, some bikers were selling heroin and the buyers would get in their parked cars, shoot up and die.

It was even on the tv news which I think drove more deaths, the news said there was a very potent type of heroin hitting this area, called Mexican mud or black tar, or its latest cuter name.

Maybe for the female junkies "tootsie roll".

My theory some people are sheeple and live by the monkey see monkey do mentality.

The see MDE has pussy on the news and they book a flight nevermind the rest of the story talking about all the murders.

Not unlike the dead junkies in Chicago in the 70's or even today.

Again I'm very surprised by the number of newcomers, this website alone has hundreds of other places to visit.

But they want to goto to the thee most dangerous city in the world to monger, I can't think of another city in the entire world you're more likely to get killed in as a foreign monger.

I don't see as many repeat visitors posting? Maybe they know better, as we all know nature abhors a vacuum.

So in comes the newcomer!!

May God be with all of you!!

Huacho
02-09-24, 23:35
it's this way or just go to Costa Rica or Panama City for the Colombians.There are way more colombianas in Panamá than in CR. CR, a lot of the gals are from Nicaragua.

John Gault
02-10-24, 00:54
Listen, in hotel Nutibura you can bring for free 1 girl per day in your room after 6 pm. They never asked me to pay 70 k.

And almost all the girls I meet on facebook look the same in real but each time, before a girl come to me in my hotel, I always ask her to answer me on video on messenger or whasapp. If they don't want to do, I refuse the meeting.The last time I stayed there the rule was before 6 pm girls were free not after 6 pm.

Gabacho
02-10-24, 01:08
More dead gringos in Colombia.

https://youtu.be/TfGbSqTLXds?si=4V6XixbrZP9EkDPW

Follow Along.

Knowledge
02-10-24, 02:54
There are other much better casas. I stop into Aiffe regularly because I'm friends with the family that owns the place. Spots like Ellas Erotica (both branches) and nearby Sexxy Amigas are more reliable.


The Centro Casa scene kinda died off after C19 for a number of reasons. Salute to those that got to enjoy it during the good old days when there were 2 4 1 specials.

KeviKev68
02-10-24, 03:30
I just wanted to put this out there since I will be MDE later this month. I am interested in women only. I don't care about food, alcohol or museums. It's all about women. Has anyone on here met any women from Instagram.

I have met one and wasn't the hottest IG girl but still a good lay. I have been collecting addresses and wondering if some these girls are P4 P if you know what I mean.

Vaneram346 jpriv. 15 fernanda31_ im_lalv22 and 18_vh.

I have two that found on Tinder that I am going to meet when I get there.

Any help would be cool!

Gabacho
02-10-24, 03:38
I have the impression that some people on this site do everything to prevent new men from coming to Medellin or elsewhere in Colombia by making them believe that the country is extremely dangerous and that the girls will rob them, or kidnap them, or kill. In fact, I think above all that they are afraid, that they will no longer be able to enjoy the most beautiful women of Medellin all to themselves. I went to Colombia twice this year, and I visited the whole country, and I fucked a lot of working girls I met on Facebook or in the casas of Medellin or in the street in El Centro and even Colombian pornstars and I had no problems! Plus I fucked them all bareback! I simply paid a little more! Afterwards, I didn't have any problems either, because I'm a kind, generous man, I don't drink, and I don't smoke. Now it's true that I pay a little more than the other members of this site, because I like to fuck beautiful, sexy working girls between 18 and 25 years old. And even though I'm quite a good-looking guy, I would have a hard time finding the same quality of sexy girls in my country for such little money. So YES, I don't mind paying pretty working girls between $30 and $120. As long as I get what I want and the girl is super hot, I don't mind paying that much every day for 2 weeks.Yea this guy marquis de sade is just trying to fearmonger and scare people away. While you should always take precautions to avoid being a victim, the odds of something bad actually happening to you are very slim. How many gringos were killed in Medellin in 2023?? Now think of how many gringos visited Medellin in 2023?? If you do the math you will see that it's not even like nowhere near even point one percent of gringos that got killed.

Just don't go around flashing and gold chains and jewelry and acting all stupid in public showing off and you should be fine.

BlueChange
02-10-24, 03:48
Few things first, thank you to all for the tips and whatnot. Have been to MDE twice, going again this year in May. You guys have helped so much with reports and whatnot. Thank you.

Any recommended outcall massage services? Found some previously on milerotics I think but was left unhappy. Last time some people staying close to us had some "massuses" come over that were amazing. Saw them leaving and couldn't get their info.

Going to be 5-6 people with us. Will be staying at Paris Suites right by Lleras Park and guest are not an issue. Stayed at Europa previously but less people going so downsizing.

Also best sites for escorts? Lacelestina seems to have died off. Even though previous trips we had better luck hitting local bars and bringing a group of girls back to the penthouse to party, I still like to see what's out there.

Also recommened chefs? Found a few online that were too overpriced.Passionprepago and prepago69 are pretty good quality. https://masajistaspaisas.com/ Also a hidden gem that doesn't really come up in many search engines but ALAWYS has quality bolt on paisa chicks. Its all just independents. The agency days seem to be few and far in between as its soo easy to setup and screen.

One that I Really miss was 1000 prepago. I swear I had 9 and 10 like legit super model on there. Ther was a girl I fuck from there that was on some foreign vogue or something. Too bad IG kinda let them know their value but still pleanty to be found!!

Mr Enternational
02-10-24, 03:58
I'm reading back a few pages and it seems MDE is attracting interest from some newcomers despite all the crime warnings, are those warnings attracting them? Again I'm very surprised by the number of newcomers, this website alone has hundreds of other places to visit. But they want to goto to the thee most dangerous city in the world to monger, I can't think of another city in the entire world you're more likely to get killed in as a foreign monger.

May God be with all of you!!Like a moth to a flame. This time a guy from the Netherlands checked in to his hotel and never checked out. Brought 2 chicks to the room at midnight and they left at 5 am. The cleaning lady found him dead. So for those that keep thinking I am safe if there is security or cameras, once again that has proven to be wrong.

https://www.minuto30.com/extranjero-fue-encontrado-sin-vida-en-un-hotel-de-medellin/1576601/?no_cache=1707527227&fbclid=IwAR0wsJbBDsRVR3TSCW3nBOsLkN3vf22a1pBmznb2dZLAxTRRVlgF8ccJaow_aem_ASabB2bS2dEgWT8WZpXxoEMu4ZLKj6biUWQhzsFAeHj5M7eFhabW7Y6nlRyQFG8KjQ4

Flawless Zeal
02-10-24, 04:23
More dead gringos in Colombia.

https://youtu.be/TfGbSqTLXds?si=4V6XixbrZP9EkDPW

Follow Along.What does a 70-year-old woman dying from a bad batch of ayahuasca have to do with anything? If you're actually trying to spread awareness, don't be the boy who cried wolf.

Zeos1
02-10-24, 04:35
I just wanted to put this out there since I will be MDE later this month. I am interested in women only. I don't care about food, alcohol or museums. It's all about women. Has anyone on here met any women from Instagram.

I have met one and wasn't the hottest IG girl but still a good lay. I have been collecting addresses and wondering if some these girls are P4 P if you know what I mean.

Vaneram346 jpriv. 15 fernanda31_ im_lalv22 and 18_vh.

I have two that found on Tinder that I am going to meet when I get there.

Any help would be cool!A city of 4. 5 million and you want information on 3 specific instagram girls. Good luck with that. Although you never know, someone from here might actually know something about them.

MarquisdeSade1
02-10-24, 06:48
"I have the impression that some people on this site do everything to prevent new men from coming to Medellin or elsewhere in Colombia by making them believe that the country is extremely dangerous and that the girls will rob them, or kidnap them, or kill. In fact, I think above all that they are afraid, that they will no longer be able to enjoy the most beautiful women of Medellin all to themselves. I went to Colombia twice this year, and I visited the whole country, and I fucked a lot of working girls I met on Facebook or in the casas of Medellin or in the street in El Centro and even Colombian pornstars and I had no problems! Plus I fucked them all bareback! I simply paid a little more! Afterwards, I didn't have any problems either, because I'm a kind, generous man, I don't drink, and I don't smoke. Now it's true that I pay a little more than the other members of this site, because I like to fuck beautiful, sexy working girls between 18 and 25 years old. And even though I'm quite a good-looking guy, I would have a hard time finding the same quality of sexy girls in my country for such little money. So YES, I don't mind paying pretty working girls between $30 and $120. As long as I get what I want and the girl is super hot, I don't mind paying that much every day for 2 weeks. ".

To deny you of your right to risk your life for some 3rd world putas? Seriously wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c

Dead mans famous last words, I had no problems!! Until oopsie!!

Like the asian comedian from Minnesota killed recently told all his friends and family, he never felt unsafe in MDE.

I guess not until someone cut his throat for $37 and back up old cell phone.

CK465
02-10-24, 08:01
I have the impression that some people on this site do everything to prevent new men from coming to Medellin or elsewhere in Colombia by making them believe that the country is extremely dangerous and that the girls will rob them, or kidnap them, or kill. In fact, I think above all that they are afraid, that they will no longer be able to enjoy the most beautiful women of Medellin all to themselves. I went to Colombia twice this year, and I visited the whole country, and I fucked a lot of working girls I met on Facebook or in the casas of Medellin or in the street in El Centro and even Colombian pornstars and I had no problems! Plus I fucked them all bareback! I simply paid a little more! Afterwards, I didn't have any problems either, because I'm a kind, generous man, I don't drink, and I don't smoke. Now it's true that I pay a little more than the other members of this site, because I like to fuck beautiful, sexy working girls between 18 and 25 years old. And even though I'm quite a good-looking guy, I would have a hard time finding the same quality of sexy girls in my country for such little money. So YES, I don't mind paying pretty working girls between $30 and $120. As long as I get what I want and the girl is super hot, I don't mind paying that much every day for 2 weeks.I'll be down there in a few weeks and I have a good base with Spanish and I'm not sticking out late in certain locations without a buddy or group. A lot of the killings can all be prevented if many of them did their research and stay off dating apps, etc. Using common sense is a worldwide trait, we just got to use it more.

YounGun3393
02-10-24, 09:36
Not super experienced, but I've had the best luck going to some of the local bars and getting the girls from there to head back and party at the Airbnb. Would only recommend if you have security (we have 2 armed guards at our Airbnb that checks all girls IDs and wouldn't let a few in).

Agency girls (in my experience) are more all business. You're on the clock as soon as they show up, so drinking or whatever for a hour or so will cost. Just felt more transactional. Getting a good little group from Park Lleras or another bar / club around had worked best for us.

But I do like having the agency's as I can set something up in 10 min max while laying in bed or on the toilet and can't beat that.
By local bars do you mean the ones near lleras or 70?

Also what agency's are you referring to?

I know if mileroticos pasion prepago. Are there others? I have a bachelor party soon and wouldn't mind having the company of 5-6 girls.

Turgid
02-10-24, 14:57
..... I'm a kind, generous man, I don't drink.......First off how does a kind, generous man who does not drink get civilians? For me getting a girl to my place and having a drink or two with her makes getting into her panties much less difficult. Even with a hooker I find I get better service from her if she's a little tipsy.

Orgasmico
02-10-24, 16:34
Yea this guy marquis de sade is just trying to fearmonger and scare people away. Given all the youtube vids, Facebook and WhatsApp groups, mongering forums, etc. , I doubt anyone can stop the influx of sex tourists into Medellin. For every marquis de sade, there are a 1,000 dudes encouraging other dudes to come to Medellin. Same for Sosua and other mongering locations. Then people complain later on about the demise of the location LOL.

JohnJones22
02-10-24, 17:56
How many of you guys would be willing to pay top dollar (1-2 K USD) for famous colombian instagram models / influencers (100 k followers +)?

RudeBwoy100
02-10-24, 18:38
How many of you guys would be willing to pay top dollar (1-2 K USD) for famous colombian instagram models / influencers (100 k followers +)?For the entire night or per the HR? Also, you'd have to post an example of what they look like, if they look like the ones in the U.S I'm sure some people would pay if it's for the night.

IntBond0
02-10-24, 18:42
This is how you get set up and murdered in a foreign country.

https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhNSzoTeB9dsW4QWHp/passport-bro-going-out-sad-colombian-woman-fights-and-humiliates-bro-for-not-paying-after-they-ran-a-train-on-her

LoveItHere69
02-10-24, 18:45
How many of you guys would be willing to pay top dollar (1-2 K USD) for famous colombian instagram models / influencers (100 k followers +)?That is like eating a Big Mac hamburger and paying $1000 just because it was served by a waiter on a fine linen tablecloth, gold plate, crystal glass, silverware. Your Instagram chicks are no prettier than what you can find walking down the street. You want to brag? Brag about what? That you paid several times too much? That just makes other guys know you are an idiot. No guy cares who you "F". The only difference between a model and another girl is that one is on a magazine and other is not.

John Gault
02-10-24, 19:36
I just wanted to put this out there since I will be MDE later this month. I am interested in women only. I don't care about food, alcohol or museums. It's all about women. Has anyone on here met any women from Instagram.

I have met one and wasn't the hottest IG girl but still a good lay. I have been collecting addresses and wondering if some these girls are P4 P if you know what I mean.

Vaneram346 jpriv. 15 fernanda31_ im_lalv22 and 18_vh.

I have two that found on Tinder that I am going to meet when I get there.

Any help would be cool!When are you guys start to know that Tinder is a deadly trap a lot of times?

Gabacho
02-10-24, 19:45
What does a 70-year-old woman dying from a bad batch of ayahuasca have to do with anything? If you're actually trying to spread awareness, don't be the boy who cried wolf.If you had watched the whole video you would have saw that he mentioned several other cases of dead gringos from this month and in January.

The lady with the ayahuacsca was just the first one he mentioned.

Zhagolo52
02-10-24, 20:06
Definitely a big no, you can find equally beautiful girls for normal prices. If you want to drop that $$ because they are "famous" that's a different thing.


How many of you guys would be willing to pay top dollar (1-2 K USD) for famous colombian instagram models / influencers (100 k followers +)?

Zhagolo52
02-10-24, 20:09
Best way to find out is send them messages and see if they respond, that's a big IF. Also the highest % of drugings of expats come from Tinder. There have been people that have been mongering for years down there and they still get drugged almost always from girls on Tinder. It really does have the highest % of incidents.


I just wanted to put this out there since I will be MDE later this month. I am interested in women only. I don't care about food, alcohol or museums. It's all about women. Has anyone on here met any women from Instagram.

I have met one and wasn't the hottest IG girl but still a good lay. I have been collecting addresses and wondering if some these girls are P4 P if you know what I mean.

Vaneram346 jpriv. 15 fernanda31_ im_lalv22 and 18_vh.

I have two that found on Tinder that I am going to meet when I get there.

Any help would be cool!

JGomez90
02-10-24, 20:25
How many of you guys would be willing to pay top dollar (1-2 K USD) for famous colombian instagram models / influencers (100 k followers +)?Absolutely not LOL. I could get 3 equally beautiful girls girls, a penthouse and a whole night of fun with that.

KeviKev68
02-10-24, 21:08
Definitely a big no, you can find equally beautiful girls for normal prices. If you want to drop that $$ because they are "famous" that's a different thing.I had one for 300 mil. You can find women for as low low as 80 mil. However, for those us of traveling from the west coast ,pinching pennies makes no sense. I won't pay 300 US dollars but I won't haggle over transportation money either.

KeviKev68
02-10-24, 21:13
A city of 4. 5 million and you want information on 3 specific instagram girls. Good luck with that. Although you never know, someone from here might actually know something about them.Dude, I was just asking if anyone knew if they were on the market. These aren't random chicas that you find on the street. It's worth asking regardless of the incoming.

YounGun3393
02-10-24, 21:42
Hey guys I am going to be in MDE for 2 nights only (sadly) and will be there for a bachelor party. We got a nice airbnb near parque lleras and I was wondering if you know any agency's aside from mileroticos prepagos69 etc where I can get a group of girls to join us? Lot of the guys are married so not all girls will need to provide FS except me ofc.

I know there are plenty near the park but not all are trustworthy or reliable and vetting will take time I don't have. I figure most girls might do FS only but just wondering what other alternatives there are. I’ll gladly take FS girls and I can take it from there. I speak the language so shouldn’t be an issue. Just looking for 4-6 girls. Thanks and feel free to pm.

Mr Enternational
02-10-24, 21:46
Dude, I was just asking if anyone knew if they were on the market. These aren't random chicas that you find on the street.I agree. They are random chicas that you find on the internet.

Mr Enternational
02-10-24, 21:58
How many of you guys would be willing to pay top dollar (1-2 K USD) for famous colombian instagram models / influencers (100 k followers +)?I have never paid more than $50 for some pussy and I have fucked porn stars in Brazil. I am not impressed by someone having followers or being so-called internet "influencers" or "models" (of which there must be millions of). You are aware that anyone can literally buy followers right? But I guess if you saw her on the internet then she must be good.

Stl24
02-10-24, 23:39
I am trying to decide between Europa Suites and an AirBNB I found at Edificio Provenza Life near the Calle 6/ Calle 33 split. As stated before my motivation is not food or drinking or partying or nightlife. My sole focus is the same thing KeviKevi said, it's all about the women. I want to maximize my time and I plan on seeing 3-4 women per day. I'd like the opportunity to bring some back to my place (with the proper safety measures taken of course). The host of the AirBNB said they have 24 hour reception and guests are permitted. Just looking at the pictures I do like the AirBNB as it is more like an apartment and the Europa Suite doesn't seem like it has the same feel. I don't mind using Uber or Taxi but the appeal of being that close to Lleras Park is appealing for finding street girls and walking back. Does taking an uber or taxi vs walking back to Europa after finding a girl impact or limit my options. I'll also take any feedback about Europa or Edificio Provenza Life. As always, thanks in advance!

Margaya
02-11-24, 00:02
Given all the youtube vids, Facebook and WhatsApp groups, mongering forums, etc. , I doubt anyone can stop the influx of sex tourists into Medellin. For every marquis de sade, there are a 1,000 dudes encouraging other dudes to come to Medellin. Same for Sosua and other mongering locations. Then people complain later on about the demise of the location LOL.If only Colombia government takes a harsh line on hordes of these rascals on youtube and puts some of them in jail like Costa Rica did with that one idiot, the pandemic can be brought under control quite fast. Will help Medellin, will help us all and certainly will save few lives. Of the noobs and gullibles who have no idea how dangerous things are in Colombia.

Gabacho
02-11-24, 00:36
What does a 70-year-old woman dying from a bad batch of ayahuasca have to do with anything? If you're actually trying to spread awareness, don't be the boy who cried wolf.Here is this better?

https://youtu.be/EUfvK0Cj5sA?si=sLxU_oTxvIs8RHXe

Orgasmico
02-11-24, 01:17
5 Dead In 1 Week.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/encuentran-extranjero-holandes-muerto-en-un-hotel-en-el-poblado-medellin-JG23708551.

Gilolo
02-11-24, 03:00
Well MarquisdeSade, I suggest you with all what you say to never go back Colombia! Colombia is not for you anymore. Be careful!


"I have the impression that some people on this site do everything to prevent new men from coming to Medellin or elsewhere in Colombia by making them believe that the country is extremely dangerous and that the girls will rob them, or kidnap them, or kill. In fact, I think above all that they are afraid, that they will no longer be able to enjoy the most beautiful women of Medellin all to themselves. I went to Colombia twice this year, and I visited the whole country, and I fucked a lot of working girls I met on Facebook or in the casas of Medellin or in the street in El Centro and even Colombian pornstars and I had no problems! Plus I fucked them all bareback! I simply paid a little more! Afterwards, I didn't have any problems either, because I'm a kind, generous man, I don't drink, and I don't smoke. Now it's true that I pay a little more than the other members of this site, because I like to fuck beautiful, sexy working girls between 18 and 25 years old. And even though I'm quite a good-looking guy, I would have a hard time finding the same quality of sexy girls in my country for such little money. So YES, I don't mind paying pretty working girls between $30 and $120. As long as I get what I want and the girl is super hot, I don't mind paying that much every day for 2 weeks. ".

To deny you of your right to risk your life for some 3rd world putas? Seriously wow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c

Dead mans famous last words, I had no problems!! Until oopsie!!

Like the asian comedian from Minnesota killed recently told all his friends and family, he never felt unsafe in MDE.

I guess not until someone cut his throat for $37 and back up old cell phone.

Robotron
02-11-24, 04:26
At this point, the Admin should lock this thread and Cartagena until all the kidnapping, murders, and drugging stop.

Also, it would be helpful to mention other South American destinations to go instead that are much safer.

On a side note, when I visit Medelin later this year, how many girls will a budget of 5000 USD get me? Trying to know how much to budget per day, and if its possible to find at least one GFE complete run way model for a day compared to the regulars youd find on the street. The kind of girl you'd see in the Hollywood movies like Sofía Vergara or who thinks they're worth 1000+ USD if they tour the states.

KeviKev68
02-11-24, 05:07
I agree. They are random chicas that you find on the internet.Let me tell you I have been doing this mongering thing for over 25 years. The Instagram girls I listed are many things except random.

LoveItHere69
02-11-24, 05:36
I have never paid more than $50 for some pussy and I have fucked porn stars in Brazil. I am not impressed by someone having followers or being so-called internet "influencers" or "models" (of which there must be millions of). You are aware that anyone can literally buy followers right? But I guess if you saw her on the internet then she must be good.You are not impressed by a guy who wants to have sex with an influencer? Then you think all of us are impressed that you had sex with a porn star? Oh, and that you never pay more than $50? Color me red with envy. I thought all your sex was free with lawyers, actresses, doctors, politicians, and such? Funny you never mention girls that a guy would more easily run across on a day to day basis such as a hotel worker or a waitress at a restaurant. The saddest part is I know you really believe your own crap. Except when you post pictures and the guys here inform you that they have had the same girl as you.

Combo
02-11-24, 07:44
5 Dead In 1 Week.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/encuentran-extranjero-holandes-muerto-en-un-hotel-en-el-poblado-medellin-JG23708551.They're just getting killed to scare guys away from visiting.

BlueChange
02-11-24, 08:33
They're just getting killed to scare guys away from visiting.My two cents on it is this city was always violent, however as economic times get harder in the world, more desperate people flock to Colombia leaving Venezuela it is putting pressure on people. Also the concentration of wealth in these areas has caused more criminals to come to the area. Also couples with more access to internet and information this place as had a bigger target on on the back for sex tourism. Also the growth of location based dating apps has just added to this oppritunity for people to put themselves in positions.

Use caution, its not safe, don't give papaya, have good security measures, avoid groups of girls you don't know. Use your gut. Try and build good networks here with people so you know who you can trust a little bit more.

Gabacho
02-11-24, 10:10
"Yea this guy marquis de sade is just trying to fearmonger and scare people away. While you should always take precautions to avoid being a victim, the odds of something bad actually happening to you are very slim. How many gringos were killed in Medellin in 2023?? Now think of how many gringos visited Medellin in 2023?? If you do the math you will see that it's not even like nowhere near even point one percent of gringos that got killed.

Just don't go around flashing and gold chains and jewelry and acting all stupid in public showing off and you should be fine. ".

You must be the biggest fool on this site, and wow that says a lot you have stiff competition.

PRO TIP to all don't risk your life listening to some moron on the internet telling you, you should be fine.

All the while posting videos of all the mongers getting killed in MDE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PXbplqnQ2U

Wow they don't get much "dummer" than YOU.

"If you do the math you will see that it's not even like nowhere near even point one percent of gringos that got killed".

This is your reasoning wow, you are a retard.

Show me another mongering hub with murders of mongers?

Giving dangerous advise to others is bad karma, maybe you will be next.

I'm guessing trash like you like to encourage others to visit, you don't care if they get killed.

You must think the more mongers the safer you will be.

And if less show up you will be a bigger target.

Good luck, Karma will be looking for you scumbag!!Get off my nuts, Mercury Marquis. You're an old elderly man with poor compression skills. Yes I link DCRob's videos to show others what's going on so that they are aware. I'm not going to tell people that they shouldn't come to Medellin though, they can make their own decisions. As long as you're not flashing jewelry and acting stupid you should be okay here, I stand by that statement. You on the other hand are delusional and feel the need to call me names and say I'll have bad karma? Do you even understand how karma works? I would have to do something bad to have bad karma and I haven't done anything bad so how do you come to your stupid conclusions?

And for the record I have been here for years and have yet to be kidnapped and / or killed, and furthermore I would welcome any motherfucker to try it and see what happens. To quote Mr E "they better kill me on the spot" point fucking blank, cause it will be a cold day in hell that I'll let a motherfucker kidnap Gabacho mothaphukkin Locc.

Gabacho
02-11-24, 10:35
Well MarquisdeSade, I suggest you with all what you say to never go back Colombia! Colombia is not for you anymore. Be careful!Couldn't agree with you more. Mr Mercury needs to stay TF out of Colombia.

Zeos1
02-11-24, 15:01
Dude, I was just asking if anyone knew if they were on the market. These aren't random chicas that you find on the street. It's worth asking regardless of the incoming.Of course they are not random in that sense. But there are thousands, probably hundreds of thousands, of chicas on Instagram in Colombia. So chances of anyone knowing anything are very low as Instagram does not make it easy for one to check out anything about the person you may hook up with. But best of luck. The problem with Instagram is related to that very thing. It has become a prime way for those that want to rob / drug people they hook up with. So take care.

The Cane
02-11-24, 15:16
My two cents on it is this city was always violent, however as economic times get harder in the world, more desperate people flock to Colombia leaving Venezuela it is putting pressure on people. Also the concentration of wealth in these areas has caused more criminals to come to the area. Also couples with more access to internet and information this place as had a bigger target on on the back for sex tourism. Also the growth of location based dating apps has just added to this opportunity for people to put themselves in positions. Use caution, its not safe, don't give papaya, have good security measures, avoid groups of girls you don't know. Use your gut. Try and build good networks here with people so you know who you can trust a little bit more.This hits the nail on the head spot on. There's always been a danger element, but its gotten far worse with the increase in both sex tourists and Venezuelan refugees flooding into Colombia. When I was a regular Colombia visitor "Me-del-lin" (dumb gringo pronunciation) had not been fully discovered yet by North Americans and Europeans. Now everybody knows and we have an increasingly dangerous cocktail of indignant locals, desperate refugees, and lecherous gringos all mixing together in one place. Look out!

Elvis 2008
02-11-24, 15:18
How many of you guys would be willing to pay top dollar (1-2 K USD) for famous colombian instagram models / influencers (100 k followers +)?Last I checked you can buy hundreds of thousands of followers for a few hundred bucks. Then there are the filters where women can make themselves look less fat, taller ETC, and I read somewhere an astonishing percentage of women on Instagram do just that.

I have a video of a Colombian woman in Bogota who would probably make your dick hard and it is not altered. In real life though, she was pretty underwhelming because she hid some of her worst features like her teeth and breasts, and her skin in real life was gross. To truly assess their beauty, you have to meet them.

Offering big money to a Colombian woman sight unseen is a big mistake. You will be conned.

JjBee62
02-11-24, 17:22
5 Dead In 1 Week.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/encuentran-extranjero-holandes-muerto-en-un-hotel-en-el-poblado-medellin-JG23708551.In 2017, just before Christmas, there were 4 killed in 1 week and a fifth hospitalized.

Flip a coin 10,000 times and you'll probably get around 5 k heads, 5 k tails. However, there's also fair chance you'll have a stretch of 5 in a row, heads or tails.

5 in 1 week is coincidence. 5 per week for 5 weeks is a trend.

JjBee62
02-11-24, 17:50
How many of you guys would be willing to pay top dollar (1-2 K USD) for famous colombian instagram models / influencers (100 k followers +)?Why would you want to pay top dollar? Having 10 k or 100 k followers doesn't mean anything. You're not paying to look at her Instagram and guaranteed she's not throwing up pictures of you fucking her for her followers. Is she likely to be totally in to you? Will she get real freaky and beg you for more? Probably not. It's probably going to be a bunch of rules, and a boring fuck.

However, it is Medellin and you can easily find models who have worked internationally, willing to rock your world for a lot less than $1 k USD. Why be willing to pay 5-10 x what a woman will happily accept?

JjBee62
02-11-24, 18:13
Dude, I was just asking if anyone knew if they were on the market. These aren't random chicas that you find on the street. It's worth asking regardless of the incoming.Even if someone knows if they are on the market, it doesn't mean they are on the market for you. With 100 k followers, they're getting hundreds of offers every week, some are crazy offers. How are you going to stand out? Are you willing to drop a few thousand USD, in advance, just to get a dinner date with no guarantees?

If she is on the market, you're getting effectively the same thing as everyone else. She's still just a hooker fucking anyone who has the money. You're just paying a lot more for it.

JjBee62
02-11-24, 18:27
At this point, the Admin should lock this thread and Cartagena until all the kidnapping, murders, and drugging stop.

Also, it would be helpful to mention other South American destinations to go instead that are much safer.

On a side note, when I visit Medelin later this year, how many girls will a budget of 5000 USD get me? Trying to know how much to budget per day, and if its possible to find at least one GFE complete run way model for a day compared to the regulars youd find on the street. The kind of girl you'd see in the Hollywood movies like Sofa Vergara or who thinks they're worth 1000+ USD if they tour the states.Kidnapping, drugging and murder were going on long before this board ever existed. Locking the thread won't stop anything, it will just limit the information available. Other destinations are mentioned, on the appropriate boards. If you want to find out about Brazil, Ecuador, Chile, Peru or anywhere else, go to that board. It makes no sense to have a Medellin thread which only talks about Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires.

On your side note, your budget will get you 1 girl, or 200. Are you setting aside $5 k just for girls, or does that include airfare, lodging, ground transportation, meals, etc? How long are you staying? What area of Medellin are you staying in? Where are you planning to find the girls? These are the things you need to figure out first.

In Colombia, just walking down the street or through the mall, you'll find many equal or superior to Sofia Vergara.

Bill
02-11-24, 18:38
My two cents on it is this city was always violent, however as economic times get harder in the world, more desperate people flock to Colombia leaving Venezuela it is putting pressure on people. Also the concentration of wealth in these areas has caused more criminals to come to the area. Also couples with more access to internet and information this place as had a bigger target on on the back for sex tourism. Also the growth of location based dating apps has just added to this oppritunity for people to put themselves in positions.

Use caution, its not safe, don't give papaya, have good security measures, avoid groups of girls you don't know. Use your gut. Try and build good networks here with people so you know who you can trust a little bit more.The USA Government has issued travel advisories to reconsider travel to Colombia if anyone didn't know.

Sex addict mongers would rather read about possible exaggerated reports of perfect encounters.

They forget about the possibility of leaving Colombia in a box.

It will never happen to me, swivel my head, carry a fake wallet, bullet proof vest, read 10 pages of ISG, etc.

Death has been known to reduce the competitive odds LOL!

Knowledge
02-11-24, 21:42
A woman's body was found stuffed in a suitcase in the Boston neighborhood last week. It's not an unusual event. The local press barely covered it as part of a trend of "femicides. " I wonder how many of you are even aware it happened. This sort of thing and bodies washing up on the shores of the Medellin River on a regular basis is far more frequent than the foreigner deaths. It's not likely to pop up on your radar unless you are here every day. Foreign crime victims are covered very differently than the Colombian victims. It's not unlike the way aviation accidents are covered compared to automotive accidents. Car accident deaths don't tend to make the news unless there is an extraordinary angle. This is because they happen many times per day and aviation accidents happen very rarely by comparison. I haven't learned this much about the members of this website group since the pandemic. I did not appreciate how heavily influenced some guys on here are by second hand reports from the gringo media. I was naive to misunderstand this.


What does a 70-year-old woman dying from a bad batch of ayahuasca have to do with anything? If you're actually trying to spread awareness, don't be the boy who cried wolf.