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It's a youtube channel that does hidden camera views in the outdoors of parque Lleras and other places. Kinda gives you a view of what it should look like at night in the park.Here's an example https://youtu.be/vo5V1k4R0nU?si=V5bpfc6aUIlGS2J3.
The problem I have with these videos, especially since I've never visited, is that I have no idea who is and who is not a working girl. Sure there's a lot of fat ass chicas and attractive ones being shown here but it's all useless if it's just random videos of women on the street. I guess you never know until you try, but without knowing who you can and can't pick up, what's the point?
Are you meaning to tell me that the majority of the women in this video are approachable for an appointment?
There are supposedly three branches in Medellin. In el Centro at Cra 49 #50 - 23, in Poblado at Cra 43 A #16 Sur - 63, and in Laureles at Circular 73 be #76 - 16. I have used the one in Laureles years ago, but a couple of years ago I tried it two or three times and it would not accept a Schwab card.
There is also Scotiobank Colpatria with branches in Medellin that allow a higher withdrawal amount, I think 900 mil. I don't know how much, but they do charge an ATM fee.The one on Avenida Poblado no longer has an ATM.
Is there any good solution for getting change though? It is so frustrating to get mostly all big bills from the ATM and then when I try to pay for something I either get an exasperated look from the employee and they have to go see someone else in order to get change, or worse, they say they don't have that much change (nothing crazy, just a 50 k or 100 k bill).I always end up with too much change.
Get cash from the ATM. Go to Exito or Carulla, or any large market. Buy a bottle of water, pack of gum or other cheap item, and pay with a 50 k bill. If you use the metro, put 10 k on your Civica card and pay with a 50 k bill. Lots of places you can do that type of thing.
Ah ok, thanks, that's one more reason to stay the hell out of Parque Lleras. Imagine being surprised by questions about why you were in Parque Lleras doing whatever the youtuber says you were doing there.Wish I had known about that years ago. Instead of going places, I could just look at YouTube videos. Add in Pornhub and you can see what Parque Lleras looks like at night and see what it looks like to fuck a girl someone else picked up there. Add in a video of bandeja paisa and it's just like being there.
Yeah some of these Youtubers can be dicks about it. In Amsterdam you're explicitly not supposed to film, a few will do half ass face blurring where several frames are completely exposed, while getting a mongers face going / leaving a window. Not illegal, but very explicit. Same for Parque Lleras, plenty of normal tourists there so not as explicit but often will film cash or Translate exchanges. When called out about it there has to be enough support in comments, and even then they'll just repost when heat dies down.
I appreciate the value, but it is parasitic because they'll shit on the hobby and say it's purely tourism channel. But then not offer tourism advice, strategy with the girls, and sell uncut vids for higher price. It's a hustle.Flag those vids to Youtube! If enough of us do so Youtube may remove them or at the very least restrict them to +18.
not a huge deal to wait until end of month for Schwab to refund you. This continues to puzzle me because Schwab refunds my ATM fees right away, not at the end of the month. I must know somebody or blow somebody.
The whole world is clickbait for some of the youtubers. It is indeed a hustle. They will say anything on those videos to get more views. They don't worry about reality or anyone's reputation getting in the way of their earnings potential. My advice is, whatever you are doing or not doing, avoid them whenever you see them.
Yeah some of these Youtubers can be dicks about it. In Amsterdam you're explicitly not supposed to film, a few will do half ass face blurring where several frames are completely exposed, while getting a mongers face going / leaving a window. Not illegal, but very explicit. Same for Parque Lleras, plenty of normal tourists there so not as explicit but often will film cash or Translate exchanges. When called out about it there has to be enough support in comments, and even then they'll just repost when heat dies down.
I appreciate the value, but it is parasitic because they'll shit on the hobby and say it's purely tourism channel. But then not offer tourism advice, strategy with the girls, and sell uncut vids for higher price. It's a hustle.
I've been seeing reports that the Schwab card may not refund Davivienda's new fee because the fee is not disclosed. As you said, 15,000 a few times during a vacation visit is not going to ruin anyone financially. It does start to add if you are here all the time and you need a lot of cash on hand. I don't personally use cash for much of anything except girls. I very rarely do barrio plate of the day places so I can go a couple of months or more between ATM withdrawals. Just talking about this brings back my anger about not loading up on more pesos when it was at 5,000 just after Petro's election. I thought 20 million was enough but I was wrong LOL!
Yeah for Uber, and restaurants in moderate / wealthy areas should take a card. As many others say, get a Schwab card. Covers ATM fees, I feel like Davienda atms for max pulls were like $10-$15, not a huge deal to wait until end of month for Schwab to refund you. I'll do 2 max pulls. 1 stack goes to girl stuff. Big bills for simplicity, I'll negotiate for more time or extras if I'm short by a denomination. The next stack as someone else said make convenience store runs. Plenty small items, mouthwash, hard seltzer, bottled water, single use body cleaning products. All things I need. Worst case hang onto left over for next trip, or deposit foreign cash at my bank if it's like $300+ I don't want sitting for months.
DiscoverFL
02-23-24, 15:32
Here's an example https://youtu.be/vo5V1k4R0nU?si=V5bpfc6aUIlGS2J3.
The problem I have with these videos, especially since I've never visited, is that I have no idea who is and who is not a working girl. Sure, there's a lot of fat ass chicas and attractive ones being shown here but it's all useless if it's just random videos of women on the street. I guess you never know until you try, but without knowing who you can and can't pick up, what's the point?
Are you meaning to tell me that the majority of the women in this video are approachable for an appointment? Yes, they all are.
Happy to pay extra for the guest, but looking for a hotel where I can walk to Parque Lleras, 4 or 5 star.
I don't think they use vos in Latin America. I had a mexican girl I was seeing in Tijuana ask me what polvo was and I told her. It was in a song that we were watching the video for on TV.I was walking past the UVA park this morning and I happened to see this sign that reminded me of your post LOL. See the attached photo.
Yes, they all are.They're all a fucking ripoff too. Plaza Botero / La Veracruz / CRA 53 is a much better value and half the time (possibly more than half) it's the same chicas working both venues.
It's like Mr. E said recently, you can buy a Big Mac at the regular McDonald's or you can buy a Big Mac at a McDonald's inside an airport. Same Big Mac but two different prices.
Flawless Zeal
02-23-24, 17:38
I always end up with too much change.
Get cash from the ATM. Go to Exito or Carulla, or any large market. Buy a bottle of water, pack of gum or other cheap item, and pay with a 50 k bill. If you use the metro, put 10 k on your Civica card and pay with a 50 k bill. Lots of places you can do that type of thing.Thanks. Seeing your and other responses I realized that despite a lot of walking, I did not come across any large markets when I visited Bogota. Closest thing was a chain convenience store on the corner. Maybe I simply didn't look hard enough or it could have been the location I happened to stay in.
Here's an example https://youtu.be/vo5V1k4R0nU?si=V5bpfc6aUIlGS2J3.
The problem I have with these videos, especially since I've never visited, is that I have no idea who is and who is not a working girl. Sure there's a lot of fat ass chicas and attractive ones being shown here but it's all useless if it's just random videos of women on the street. I guess you never know until you try, but without knowing who you can and can't pick up, what's the point?
Are you meaning to tell me that the majority of the women in this video are approachable for an appointment?You Thought They Weren't? See'Mon. Man-- that's hilarious-.
Thanks. Seeing your and other responses I realized that despite a lot of walking, I did not come across any large markets when I visited Bogota. Closest thing was a chain convenience store on the corner. Maybe I simply didn't look hard enough or it could have been the location I happened to stay in.Exito, Jumbo, Makro, Carulla, D1, Ara, Isimo, Euro, Dollar City, and pharmacies such as La Rebaja etc. All take cards (unless if their system is down which can happen more often than you would think). And you can always buy something small with a 50 k or 100 k note in these stores and get Change back. If someone doesn't have change it is quite common for them to take your bill and go to another business or person outside / nextdoor to make change; they will not run off with your money just wait patiently and they will bring you your change.
Once you go into the barrios those type of storesand pharmacies are nowhere to be found and they are replaced by smaller barrio tiendas and pharmacies which are typically cash only. And any street vendors and many restaurants are cash only even in the area where those bigger chain grocery stores are located.
If course if yiu are using apps (for the most part) they take cards. I think maybe Indriver doesn't take cards and some apps will not work with foreign cards such as trying to put a recarga on your Tigo or Claro phone thru the Tigo or Claro apps, however there is a workaround for this using a third party app called Ding. Using the app Rappi you can order food, groceries, and even pharmaceuticals and have them delivered to you and charged to your card. I don't use Uber, I use Indriver, sometimes Didi, and Picap and I always use cash but I guess you can use cards with Uber. I prefer to use the bus and the metro tho and for this you need cash. Even at terminal de norte some of the bus companies only take cash, I think when I went to Guatape it might have been cash only for that bus.
It's generally better to just have cash, anyone who has spent any time in Latin America would already know that.
-Gabacho.
Thanks. Seeing your and other responses I realized that despite a lot of walking, I did not come across any large markets when I visited Bogota. Closest thing was a chain convenience store on the corner. Maybe I simply didn't look hard enough or it could have been the location I happened to stay in.The point, I think, was to buy some small item to get some change for your large bills. A convenience store would be a good place. Anyway, there were lots of suggestions and any of them could work. And if you want to find the nearest grocery store or whatever just search on google maps for closest store for food, or comida, or whatever and it will bring up something in whatever location you are.
TheDerilious
02-24-24, 02:55
Here's an example https://youtu.be/vo5V1k4R0nU?si=V5bpfc6aUIlGS2J3.
The problem I have with these videos, especially since I've never visited, is that I have no idea who is and who is not a working girl. Sure there's a lot of fat ass chicas and attractive ones being shown here but it's all useless if it's just random videos of women on the street. I guess you never know until you try, but without knowing who you can and can't pick up, what's the point?
Are you meaning to tell me that the majority of the women in this video are approachable for an appointment?Truthfully, if you go to any hopping "party" area in any city, you'll see similar views of hot, young women dressed to the nines walking around like this. The difference is that in many places, it's illegal to solicit those women and they would get offended if you did. In Parque Lleras, most of the women are approachable and are okay with being offered, at least. I'm heading back to Medellin in the summer to visit family and may or may not visit Parque Lleras but here are a few tips from my last trip (I last visited in late 2022 so I'm not sure what has changed).
I totally understand how hard it is to solicit a girl when she's in a pack so don't waste your time since it seems you're new to this. Still, you'll usually see girls walking by themselves in the park and it's likely they are working. You'll also see the working girls hanging out in a smoking section where there are some overhangs. General rule of thumb, if a girl is just hanging out by herself or with a friend (not a table, eating or drinking) and doing nothing, she's waiting to be talked to. It's pretty easy to tell the difference between a person that's trying to get somewhere and someone who is just waiting.
Eye contact is key. If a girl is interested, she will give you a sign. They are not going to play hard to get. Look at her, smile, and say hola. One of the hardest things for some guys is to just stare at someone since we are taught not to do that. You need to practice getting over that feeling. Be confident, smile, and give her a nod; she will respond positively if she's ready to talk. Try to do this while you're standing still and before she's right next to you. So many shy guys will quietly whisper at the last moment or do it while walking briskly past a girl which sends a mixed signal. In many ways, this is the perfect place for shy guys to practice this type of self-improvement.
While you can try picking up girls in any place in Lleras (near the bars or restaurants), as a first timer, you can try sitting in the main park area and try this out on the girls who are walking by. It's a bit quieter and I've found that many working girls will stroll through the park at some point. If you're worried about missing out on girls, try sitting nearer to the gates. Either way, get a drink, sit down and just practice looking at the girls walking by and giving them a smile.
Be patient. Another simple way to see if a girl is working or not is that she will just mill around the place for a long time. If you're just hanging at the park sipping on a soda or something, you'll probably see a bunch of the girls who are also just posted up around the park. Most people don't just stand around for 20-30 minutes looking at their phone while dressed up. So don't speed walk around the park and leave in ten minutes, complaining that you couldn't tell who to talk to. Just relax, take some time, absorb the sights, and look for the signs I mentioned above.
When you find a girl you like, give her a look and see how she responds. If she's hard to make eye contact with, try to be direct when approaching her. Don't pop up from behind or meekly creep up from the side. Try approaching from the front so you can immediately tell if she's not interested.
You can try observing some of the other mongers. If you're willing to be patient and relax, you'll eventually find another monger on the prowl (or getting hunted by a lady) and you'll see how it's done.
It's okay to lose. Getting rejected is fine, so get over it. It's also okay to scope out a girl and have her get picked up by another guy while you are building up your confidence and learning how things work. As you get comfortable, you won't need to wait so long before making a move.
Some of these are just generic tips but hopefully some help for the newbies who are not used to hitting on random women.
Thanks for the tips. One question I have. How much would my lack of speaking pretty much any Spanish impact your tips? I'm not expecting fluent English at all but do they speak enough to discuss prices / expectations?
Truthfully, if you go to any...
Mr Enternational
02-24-24, 06:15
Here's an example https://youtu.be/vo5V1k4R0nU?si=V5bpfc6aUIlGS2J3.
The problem I have with these videos, especially since I've never visited, is that I have no idea who is and who is not a working girl.If you have ever seen a hooker then you can first of all tell by the way they are dressed. Half naked or with all kind of tight clothes is not how women that are not hookers dress. In general, when women in Latin America who are not hookers go out dancing or drinking, then they wear casual clothes, not clothes that shout look at me! If she is wearing something you would be ashamed to see her leave your place wearing the next afternoon, then she is a hooker.
Once in Manila I had a chick come see me from her hometown just to kick back. She had just arrived on the bus, but when she showed up at the hotel she had on those fucking hooker clothes. I asked her where her normal clothes were. She said after she got off the bus she changed out of them and left her bag in some kind of locker. I said we are here chilling, you did not need to dress like you were going out to find customers. She said she did not know. She thought men liked to see women dressed that way. I prefer my hookers to be conservatively dressed. That way if we are going out or something then at least she does not look like a hooker.
Mr Enternational
02-24-24, 06:48
They're all a fucking ripoff too. Plaza Botero / La Veracruz / CRA 53 is a much better value and half the time (possibly more than half) it's the same chicas working both venues.
It's like Mr. E said recently, you can buy a Big Mac at the regular McDonald's or you can buy a Big Mac at a McDonald's inside an airport. Same Big Mac but two different prices.I am in Seychelles now and went on a tour yesterday. I booked mine at one of the tour booths on the beach. Initially dude told me 170 euro. I talked him down so much that he said look. I have to give the tour company 130 euro. Anything over is what I keep. So he ended up charging me 140 euro. I paid 10 euro down and the rest when I was on the tour. There were some people that paid over 300 euro. I know because when he went to collect from a pair of chicks he said 600 (so 300 each plus whatever deposit they had already paid.) When you look online on different sites there are prices of 175 euro, $265,273 euro. We were all on the same boat and had all equal everything. So no you do not get what you pay for. Sometimes you get the exact same as someone that knew better and paid a lot less.
Also along the lines of what you were saying, I was in Ethiopia last week. I contacted a place on whatsapp called model delivery service. When dude finally got around to sending the pictures one of them was a chick I was in the room with at the cheap spot ($10) at that very moment. Another was a chick I fucked the same place the day before. (That chick even tried to tell me double of what the model delivery guy said for all night!) And others were chicks I saw at other cheap spots. So it happens everywhere. You just have to be shrewd.
Exoticspirit
02-24-24, 13:10
.You can try observing some of the other mongers. If you're willing to be patient and relax, you'll eventually find another monger on the prowl (or getting hunted by a lady) and you'll see how it's done.
It's okay to lose. Getting rejected is fine, so get over it. It's also okay to scope out a girl and have her get picked up by another guy while you are building up your confidence and learning how things work. As you get comfortable, you won't need to wait so long before making a move.
Some of these are just generic tips but hopefully some help for the newbies who are not used to hitting on random women.Great tips! How are guys screening out potential trouble makers, ie. , those who will likely drug / rob you? I was under the impression from past several posts on Lleras that it's best not to pull from there.
Great tips! How are guys screening out potential trouble makers, ie. , those who will likely drug / rob you? I was under the impression from past several posts on Lleras that it's best not to pull from there.You can't screen a girl you pick up off the street whether near Lleras or anywhere else, other than asking to see her cedula, and knowing enough about it to see if it looks legit and her age, etc. Is ok.
The best you can do is have a safe place to take her, for example a hotel or apartment where security will record her info, check her ID, etc. And then be careful with your drinks, etc. In your room, and then hopefully be in a place where security wants your ok to let the girl back out, in other words they want to make sure you are ok before they let her leave the building.
What time does the ladies start showing up at Lleras. My goal is to maximize time and see 3-4 per day starting as early as possible (realistically the 9 am-10 am timeframe). Will there be ladies in Lleras that time of day? If not, where would you recommend going (casas, clubs, etc.) that early in the day.
Thanks for the tips. One question I have. How much would my lack of speaking pretty much any Spanish impact your tips? I'm not expecting fluent English at all but do they speak enough to discuss prices / expectations?
...I've never visited, is that I have no idea who is and who is not a working girl. ...There are two areas here. If you walk west for 5 minutes, you will see Provenza, that is where you see normal girls. Find a video and observe the difference to see how working girls dress.
Yes, they all are.It is straightforward, if you really have doubt. They are working so you can ask them are you working? They will tell you yes or no.
...Are you meaning to tell me that the majority of the women in this video are approachable for an appointment?
You could go to casas beginning about 10 am.
What time does the ladies start showing up at Lleras. My goal is to maximize time and see 3-4 per day starting as early as possible (realistically the 9 am-10 am timeframe). Will there be ladies in Lleras that time of day? If not, where would you recommend going (casas, clubs, etc.) that early in the day.
You can't screen a girl you pick up off the street whether near Lleras or anywhere else.I disagree with that. Chat her up. Is she strung out? Does she keep looking around (for her pimp, etc) or does she make eye contact? Look at her body and clothes. Does she take care of herself? Invite her for a drink. Sizing up hookers is just like sizing up anyone you intend to employ.
But yeah, then do all the other stuff Zeos talks about. I just think you can reduce risk somewhat via the interviewing process. That's worked for me so far.
There are two areas here. If you walk west for 5 minutes, you will see Provenza, t....It should be walk east.
What time does the ladies start showing up at Lleras. My goal is to maximize time and see 3-4 per day starting as early as possible (realistically the 9 am-10 am timeframe). Will there be ladies in Lleras that time of day? If not, where would you recommend going (casas, clubs, etc.) that early in the day.There will be slim picking during the day. At night, probably after 9 PM or 10 PM.
TheDerilious
02-25-24, 02:06
Thanks for the tips. One question I have. How much would my lack of speaking pretty much any Spanish impact your tips? I'm not expecting fluent English at all but do they speak enough to discuss prices / expectations?It shouldn't impact the how you pick up the girls. If you're talking to working girls (which most are, as others have also mentioned), you don't need to know any spanish. They will do the work on making the date the happen. So while it doesn't impact getting the date, the issue will be that you will be severely limited in negotiating and you can't really pre-validate how good the session might be, since you won't be able to butter her up. Just learn the words for the things you like (besos con lengua = french kissing) and ask them. It doesn't even have to be grammatically sound. Most likely you're convo is going to sound like this.
"Hola. Tu hermosa. Cuanto por cita. Besos con lengua?. ".
Keep it simple and understand that your negotiation is limited. You're not going to be able to charm her or give her any special reason to see her so accept it. If you really want to negotiate, learn some compliments and tell her you're a gentle guy or something, I guess.
There are a sizable portion of girls who know "decent" English, but you'll have to search and be willing to cut lose a hottie who doesn't know enough. I've found that some of the older women are more versed in english so if you're not trying to snatch up a 19 year old, you might have some better luck with the girls who are mid to late 20's or older.
TheDerilious
02-25-24, 02:25
Great tips! How are guys screening out potential trouble makers, ie. , those who will likely drug / rob you? I was under the impression from past several posts on Lleras that it's best not to pull from there.That's not really possible to do in advance. You need to take precautions on your side and not make yourself a target since criminals go after victims (people who have made themselves look ripe for ripping off). The biggest way to avoid this is by not being wasted or high. Avoid threesomes (sessions can also be pretty meh anyway, as others have mentioned) since it's harder to keep an eye on two gals.
I guess a few things that "could" be signs of a potential criminal are the following. The girl solicits you to buy or take drugs with her. She seems overly interested about inviting a friend to join. She insists on taking the lead of getting a cab or arranging transport if needed. She is giving out some insane discounts for service.
Overall, it's just important to remain in control of yourself. Even after the deed is done, you should probably avoid letting her wander your place without direct supervision. I've always found that no girl got mad at me for being wary. Most of them are just honest people trying to make some cash so they understand why you don't want them poking around your place or pushing drugs for you to snort. Some of the girls do have Tusi or weed that they don't mind sharing, but at least make sure they take a hit first and don't try to one up them by taking massive hits.
The Derillous has some excellent suggestions.
Let me add a few comments, based on what works for me. I will preface it by saying I am in my 7th decade, fit, and I try to present a good appearance. My Spanish is basic, but adequate to communicate. I don't have much game, but do have a little personality. I pull a girl from Lleras every night I am in Medellin, and have never had problems. I stay in a mid-priced hotel with a front desk that requires identification. I treat every girl with respect. And try to create a boyfriend / girlfriend experience. I pay about $40-$55. I always use a condom.
This is my routine:
1. I put away anything in my room that could easily be taken. Most money is kept in the safe.
2. I try to dress appropriately. Usually nice jeans and a collared shirt.
3. I only take about $100. And that is in COP.
4. I arrive at Lleras around 9:30 or 10:00 pm This is relatively early.
5. I wander through the park and Calle 10. I like to get a sense of the possibilities for the evening before making a decision. I make eye contact and smile at the girls I am interested in. I may even say Hello, (hola), tell them my name (soy <name ), and ask them their name (como te llamas?
6. I may spend 5 minutes or two hours looking. It all depends. But I like to get out of the park by 11:30 at the latest. I sense there is more potential for problems late at night.
7. I avoid girls who seem to know all the locals in the park, as I assume they are full time hookers. I also stay away from girls hanging out with Columbian guys (who I assume to be either boyfriends or pimps). I stay away from girls who are too heavily made up or too obviously hookers. I care less about what the girl looks like wearing provocative clothes, and more about how she looks au natural. I prefer the girl next door look.
7. When I have made my initial decision, I approach the girl. Always with a smile and a cheerful Spanish greeting. I try to engage in some small talk in basic Spanish. I try to sense the girl's friendliness and personality. (I am not interested in any drama or crude comments.) The discussion either confirms my decision or sends me on my way.
8. If the talk is positive, I ask if the girl would be willing to visit my casa. Then, assuming an eager "si", I suggest I would expect to give her a gift. Obviously, this gets into a quick negotiation of price. If it is early and I am enjoying the interaction, I may buy the girl a drink.
9. Then, it is back to my hotel. I always insist on taking a picture of the girl before she gets to my room, and I will not pay in advance.
This process has worked well for me.
I disagree with that. Chat her up. Is she strung out? Does she keep looking around (for her pimp, etc) or does she make eye contact? Look at her body and clothes. Does she take care of herself? Invite her for a drink. Sizing up hookers is just like sizing up anyone you intend to employ.
But yeah, then do all the other stuff Zeos talks about. I just think you can reduce risk somewhat via the interviewing process. That's worked for me so far.The ones that are not high, that are not strung out, that are not looking around. Those are the more dangerous. Likely a significant number of the girls in Lleras have the drugs in their purse. It is the ones that are making a business of it that will be the dangerous ones. They are not the ones on drugs, or with pimps, or looking rough. The opposite.
The small, and perhaps larger, groups of criminals have standing offers to virtually all of the girls. Here's the drug. If you have an opportunity use it, then call us, open the door, and we'll take care of the rest. Of course the opportunity is not always there. But the strung out ones won't be the ones you have to worry about, its the ones that may seem almost too good to be true.
Of course you need to avoid the ones that are obviously high or not taking care of themselves or looking around, or not making eye contact. All of those things. But the guys I have known that have been drugged it was the high end chicas that did it. The ones they never expected it from. The ones that did it on the 3rd or 4th date. Anyway.
Exoticspirit
02-25-24, 04:20
The ones that are not high, that are not strung out, that are not looking around. Those are the more dangerous. Likely a significant number of the girls in Lleras have the drugs in their purse. It is the ones that are making a business of it that will be the dangerous ones. They are not the ones on drugs, or with pimps, or looking rough. The opposite.Are there any significant differences in terms of how dangerous they potentially are if they are the ones alone or in groups or pairs?
Had this girl come out for drinks last night, we're hanging out, bar hopping, then out of nowhere she says she wants $300 for hanging out with me, I tried to get her to leave, she refused, then followed me home and stayed until 4 am waiting for me to give her some money, gave her a little money to get rid of her but looks like they put a fraud block on the transfer. So now she's texting me from different numbers saying I need to send her the money or she's coming to my apartment.
Mr Enternational
02-25-24, 07:56
That's not really possible to do in advance. You need to take precautions on your side and not make yourself a target since criminals go after victims (people who have made themselves look ripe for ripping off). The biggest way to avoid this is by not being wasted or high. Avoid threesomes (sessions can also be pretty meh anyway, as others have mentioned) since it's harder to keep an eye on two gals.When I first started mongering it was in Rio and all these tips and tricks were not needed. The only advice was to show up with money. I used to have a smile on my face all night sleeping sandwiched between two chicks. Now it seems like the juice isn't even worth the squeeze anymore (at least in Medellin). Something that used to be so easy has turned into rocket science and could blow up in your face (or even send you to the next life) at any moment. Pussy is not worth all that risk.
Casa No Va
02-25-24, 15:11
Had this girl come out for drinks last night, we're hanging out, bar hopping, then out of nowhere she says she wants $300 for hanging out with me, I tried to get her to leave, she refused, then followed me home and stayed until 4 am waiting for me to give her some money, gave her a little money to get rid of her but looks like they put a fraud block on the transfer. So now she's texting me from different numbers saying I need to send her the money or she's coming to my apartment.Not sure what you mean how she followed you home. Like on her own street bike or something. At some.
Point you could have slammed the door on her. Like the taxi home or the security at the front of your hotel or building or the door of your Room. Did you guys do the deed because not sure what you guys talked about until 4 am, that you owed her 300 for hanging out. Why keep hanging out with her then?
Had this girl come out for drinks last night, we're hanging out, bar hopping, then out of nowhere she says she wants $300 for hanging out with me, I tried to get her to leave, she refused, then followed me home and stayed until 4 am waiting for me to give her some money, gave her a little money to get rid of her but looks like they put a fraud block on the transfer. So now she's texting me from different numbers saying I need to send her the money or she's coming to my apartment.I been telling you guys fuxk all the bullshit, fuck going out for drinks, fuck going out to eat just take them to a short time fuck hotel and tell them "Quitate la ropa" and "abre las piernas" but no you guys don't listen to me and now look what happened LOL?
My advise to you would have never been to let her follow you home. You should have ordered a picap or didi moto and hopped on the moto and left her in the dust. Then block her on WhatsApp and any other way she had to contact you but you already fucked that up to LOL.
Maybe move into a different Airbnb before she comes back and also block her or honestly you should have already blocked her by now and do not have any more contact with her.
In normal conditions I would say go to the police but honestly they will just laugh at you and not do anything and if she lies to them and says you fucked her and didn't pay her that will make the situation worse.
So move to different Airbnb fast and block her.
Any other questions señor?
ChuchoLoco
02-25-24, 16:12
It shouldn't impact the how you pick up the girls. If you're talking to working girls (which most are, as others have also mentioned), you don't need to know any spanish. They will do the work on making the date the happen. So while it doesn't impact getting the date, the issue will be that you will be severely limited in negotiating and you can't really pre-validate how good the session might be, since you won't be able to butter her up. Just learn the words for the things you like (besos con lengua = french kissing) and ask them. It doesn't even have to be grammatically sound. Most likely you're convo is going to sound like this.
"Hola. Tu hermosa. Cuanto por cita. Besos con lengua?. ".
Keep it simple and understand that your negotiation is limited. You're not going to be able to charm her or give her any special reason to see her so accept it. If you really want to negotiate, learn some compliments and tell her you're a gentle guy or something, I guess.
There are a sizable portion of girls who know "decent" English, but you'll have to search and be willing to cut lose a hottie who doesn't know enough. I've found that some of the older women are more versed in english so if you're not trying to snatch up a 19 year old, you might have some better luck with the girls who are mid to late 20's or older.When you ask how much and you get her answer, make sure to clarify dollars or pesos. For example if she says 200 make sure to clarify dollars vs mil pesos. Some use the trick of having you think she quoted mil pesos but then she will say she meant and wants $200 US. The difference is $150 and it can get ugly.
When I first started mongering it was in Rio and all these tips and tricks were not needed. The only advice was to show up with money. I used to have a smile on my face all night sleeping sandwiched between two chicks. Now it seems like the juice isn't even worth the squeeze anymore (at least in Medellin). Something that used to be so easy has turned into rocket science and could blow up in your face (or even send you to the next life) at any moment. Pussy is not worth all that risk.It is true that Medellin has more risks than a number of other countries to visit. If you want to visit a country without any risks of being drugged and robbed or killed, Medellin is not the city for you. Thailand, Mexico, Philippines and Costa Rica along with a number of other countries are much safer. If you aren't willing to take extra precautions in order to visit a country, you should not go to Colombia. There are some guys who seem to have the attitude of "guys, convince me to go to Colombia" and I really don't care whether guys go to Colombia or not. Go if you want. Don't go if you don't want. If you are hesitate due to safety concerns, you should go elsewhere because those safety concerns are real and you can read all the articles about gringos being robbed or killed. It's real and it's something you have to deal with if you go to Colombia.
You have to balance risks versus rewards. Now I have been to Medellin a number of times and I will continue to visit Medellin so I have done the analysis for myself and I think the rewards are worth the risks but for others, it may not be.
Was in El Centro yesterday. Behind the museum was trash. Did see a few nice young Venezolanas around the statues. Guy sat next to me and started smoking some weed. I haven't smoked since I was a teen, but it smelled pretty good. Got handed a couple of casa cards so I decided to do a casa run. Nothing blew me away but I grabbed something since I was there and since I don't go to El Centro often.
Excellent tips / suggestions. Are there some hotels you could recommend?
The Derillous has some excellent suggestions.
Let me add a few comments, based on what works for me. I will preface it by saying I am in my 7th decade, fit, and I try to present a good appearance. My Spanish is basic, but adequate to communicate. I don't have much game, but do have a little personality. I pull a girl from Lleras every night I am in Medellin, and have never had problems. I stay in a mid-priced hotel.....
John Gault
02-25-24, 19:16
When I first started mongering it was in Rio and all these tips and tricks were not needed. The only advice was to show up with money. I used to have a smile on my face all night sleeping sandwiched between two chicks. Now it seems like the juice isn't even worth the squeeze anymore (at least in Medellin). Something that used to be so easy has turned into rocket science and could blow up in your face (or even send you to the next life) at any moment. Pussy is not worth all that risk.Of topic It is a pain in the butt to buy ammo in NJ. I was in Florida and went to buy ammo. I asked the man what I need to make the purchase? He said " do you have money? ".
Captain Solo
02-25-24, 21:43
Mexico City has a new international airport, NLU, with the old MEX, along with the very busy Cancun Int, are very good gateways for cheap nonstop flights to Central and South America cities:
Multi-city trip Economy $587.
Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 3 HR 25 min TIJ–NLU Nonstop.
Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 2 HR 15 min NLU–CUN Nonstop.
Thu, Apr 4 Wingo 3 HR 8 min CUN–MDE Nonstop.
Fri, Apr 12 Avianca 6 HR 25 min MDE–MEX 1 stop 1 HR 25 min SJO.
Fri, Apr 12 VivaAerobus 3 HR 50 min MEX–TIJ Nonstop.
When I first started mongering it was in Rio and all these tips and tricks were not needed. The only advice was to show up with money. I used to have a smile on my face all night sleeping sandwiched between two chicks. Now it seems like the juice isn't even worth the squeeze anymore (at least in Medellin). Something that used to be so easy has turned into rocket science and could blow up in your face (or even send you to the next life) at any moment. Pussy is not worth all that risk.What works perfectly fine in many mongering destinations today puts one at huge risk in Medellin. But Medellin isn't going to change, so the monger must learn the "tips and tricks" or go somewhere else, like the DR, Costa Rica, Panama City, or Thailand.
That said most guys who visit Medellin for fun could put their hands on 5 to 10 K push come to shove, which is a fortune down there. If the prey gets wise to a certain angle then the predators will adapt. For example knives can be used instead of scope, as was the case with the Turkish guy in Laureles, or the Panamanian-American businessman.
One might also consider vacations with total abstinence, as even a couple of drinks makes one less vigilant, while there's also dangers out on the street.
Apartment guards as a whole are overrated as some are just lazy and poor listeners, no matter if you slip them $ or chat them up. You can also tip well in a local restaurant yet your order is still liable to often come back wrong. Hotels are preferred, and I'd about write off AirBnb. And because a girl shows an ID doesn't mean it's hers or genuine.
P.S. In the past some have posted the high murder stats of some US and Mexican cities in an attempt to put Medellin in a better light. Goes the refrain, "Medellin had the lowest murder rate in 40 years last year and is safer than many US cities. " Well even if the Medellin murder stats aren't cooked and are truly the best in 40 years, they're still nothing to write home about. Murder stats are hugely spiked in Mexico by cartel wars, and the same applies to gang wars in some US cities. The suburbs to these US cities have far lower rates of violent crime.
Colombia as a whole has over 4 times the murder rate of the US, 26 per 100 K to the US at 6. And of course cartel wars in Mexico and gang violence in southside Chicago are irrelevant to the tourist experience in Medellin, while there's more to safety than murders. For example, street robberies in Medellin are very common, and way under reported as most consider it a waste of time.
Facts are just facts. It's how you choose and analyze them that matters. One can cherry pick and jump to all kinds of errant conclusions.
Silvakeviniam
02-25-24, 23:11
So I wanted to make a post about the best "time of day" for the different "types" of girls / plays available. I'the like to share what I've gathered reading the forum and also ask anyone to edit / add their two cents as needed. I want to capture a snapshot of the best, worst, and starting availability times of all the different types of action.
Obviously these aren't all exact times as individuals and business can operate as they please but just wanted to have a general feel. Thought this would be valuable for those of us (me) here for a short time and trying to be efficient.
Facebook girls:
Start time. All day.
Best time. After 6 pm.
Worst time / potentially closed. Mornings.
Casas:
Start time - 8 am.
Best time - 2 pm to 6 pm.
Worst time / potentially closed. After 6 pm.
Strip clubs:
Start time - 2 pm.
Best time. After 6 pm.
Worst time / potentially closed. Before 2 pm.
Street walkers El Poblado:
Start time - 24/7.
Best time. After 8 pm.
Worst time / potentially closed. Before 12 pm.
Street walkers El Centro:
Start time - 8 am.
Best time. After 12 pm.
Worst time / potentially closed. After 6 pm.
Agency / online listings:
Start time - 24/7.
Best time. After 6 pm.
Worst time / potentially closed. Before 10 am.
Bar / club freelancers:
Start time. After 6 pm.
Best time. After 9 pm.
Worst time / potentially closed. Before 6 pm?
Tinder / Bumble / online dating:
And / A.
If I missed an entire category, please let me know.
For me personally, I'the ideally like to see just Facebook girls for my entire time here. Is it realistic / easy to get these girls morning, noon, and night? I know they can be flaky too so I want to know what / where else I can venture to given the time of day if I get left hanging dry.
Thanks all.
When ini doubt, stay home and masturbate.
It is true that Medellin has more risks than a number of other countries to visit. If you want to visit a country without any risks of being drugged and robbed or killed, Medellin is not the city for you. Thailand, Mexico, Philippines and Costa Rica along with a number of other countries are much safer. If you aren't willing to take extra precautions in order to visit a country, you should not go to Colombia. There are some guys who seem to have the attitude of "guys, convince me to go to Colombia" and I really don't care whether guys go to Colombia or not. Go if you want. Don't go if you don't want. If you are hesitate due to safety concerns, you should go elsewhere because those safety concerns are real and you can read all the articles about gringos being robbed or killed. It's real and it's something you have to deal with if you go to Colombia.
You have to balance risks versus rewards. Now I have been to Medellin a number of times and I will continue to visit Medellin so I have done the analysis for myself and I think the rewards are worth the risks but for others, it may not be.
Had this girl come out for drinks last night, we're hanging out, bar hopping, then out of nowhere she says she wants $300 for hanging out with me, I tried to get her to leave, she refused, then followed me home and stayed until 4 am waiting for me to give her some money, gave her a little money to get rid of her but looks like they put a fraud block on the transfer. So now she's texting me from different numbers saying I need to send her the money or she's coming to my apartment.Considering what I've read I'm going with two sides to a story here.
Dcrist0527
02-26-24, 00:29
Just got back a few days ago and I'll try to keep this short. Just wanted to share a few thoughts. For personal reasons, I probably won't be back to Medellin for a while.
So much has been made of the increased danger. I'll admit, all of the talk made me a little more leery as my trip approached. That said, I had no greater sense of danger during my entire visit. In fact, the only danger I saw was two different incidents where older gringos did their best to pick a fight with strangers. Does my anecdotal experience mean MDE is perfectly safe? Nope. But I would have no more concern than I ever have had visiting Medellin. Even when you read the numerous stories. If you read beyond the headlines, you'd see that these body counts are not often related to mongering. But again, just one man's opinion.
I often prefer massages during the day and clubs at night. I'm not a fan of Centro; just not my style. I know I could get by with a much cheaper bill. But I left MDE with $1,500 more USD than I planned to.
Massages; I visited Esperanza, Dan Spa, Happy Massage, Tantra Donde Mi Rey and Bendito. Esperanza was worth the visit to just see Andrea. Service was good but a total knockout. Dan Spa, as expected, was a letdown. Good massage, poor HJ. Don't recall the girls name. Happy Massage is always enjoyable. While you'll typically only receive a HJ, it is definitely very sensual. Donde Mi Rey was a big surprise, in a positive way. Called and didn't need an appointment. I cannot remember the girls' names but opted for a threesome. The bad part was that everything was covered. But if lesbo action is your thing, this is your place. It was PSE. Tongues everywhere. Scissoring. It was phenomenal. 360 k with FS which I thought was a great value. And Bendito Spa was another gem. This is another HJ only place. Visited with Amatista one day and then 4 hands with Amatista and Esmerelda. That was on my last day. Really wish I had one more day to visit Esmerelda one on one. I will say Esmerelda is not a spinner. You can see that by the photos. But she is beautiful in person, almost mesmerizing. They definitely get into the ritual part of it. But was a great experience.
The mansion. Went there on a Friday night. About 10:15 ish. There were 10 total people in the bar. Went on a Monday. Maybe 15. They did say they were slammed on Saturday night. Pulled three from the mansion. Geraldine. Recommend. Juliana. High recommend. Nathalia. All was covered but I'd still highly recommend. Going price is 250 k to 300 k for a few hours.
Lleras. It's Lleras. No changes from the last visit. Visited Glow. I've never been impressed with that place. Black Diamond actually had some really good lookers. Took one back and was not disappointed. 300 k. Gustos was a mixed bag. Again, I know many say they get a quote 200 or 300 USD. The highest I paid this time was 600 k and that was basically an all nighter. There were mostly 7's with a few 8's. Saturday night was much less crowded than normal. Tuesday night, the guys outnumbered the girls! But oddly, the prices didn't seem to go up. I got takeout for 2 hours 500 k.
All in all, a great trip. Those of you worried about danger, listen to your gut. But I would not discourage anyone based on my experience.
Had this girl come out for drinks last night, we're hanging out, bar hopping, then out of nowhere she says she wants $300 for hanging out with me, I tried to get her to leave, she refused, then followed me home and stayed until 4 am waiting for me to give her some money, gave her a little money to get rid of her but looks like they put a fraud block on the transfer. So now she's texting me from different numbers saying I need to send her the money or she's coming to my apartment.Weird story. Looks like a little girl.
TheDerilious
02-26-24, 02:01
When I first started mongering it was in Rio and all these tips and tricks were not needed. The only advice was to show up with money. I used to have a smile on my face all night sleeping sandwiched between two chicks. Now it seems like the juice isn't even worth the squeeze anymore (at least in Medellin). Something that used to be so easy has turned into rocket science and could blow up in your face (or even send you to the next life) at any moment. Pussy is not worth all that risk.Is it really rocket science, though? Nothing people have mentioned is hard. It's literally "don't get so fucked up that you can't see straight. " Or "don't get in a taxi you didn't call. " Or "watch your drink so you don't get drugged. " Dawg, these are the standard things most women have to do every time they go out so it is rich to see us complain about it. I do agree that places like Thailand are safer and built to extract foreigner money with speed and simplicity, but that doesn't mean that having personal responsibility and taking care of yourself is a bridge too far to get some pussy. I am being very anecdotal but it seems that in my decade+ of mongering (maybe I need more experience), bad things have only happened to my friends / fellow mongers I've met who were doing stupid stuff. Whether it was trying to steal at a night market in Bangkok or getting drunk and then high on Tusi and staying out all night until 4 am, it has always felt like there was a very clear reason for why "bad" things happened to them. That said, I am a very wary guy who would rather go home alone than try to do something that feels off to me, so maybe that has also helped.
Just got back a few days ago and I'll try to keep this short. Just wanted to share a few thoughts. For personal reasons, I probably won't be back to Medellin for a while.
So much has been made of the increased danger. I'll admit, all of the talk made me a little more leery as my trip approached. That said, I had no greater sense of danger during my entire visit. In fact, the only danger I saw was two different incidents where older gringos did their best to pick a fight with strangers. Does my anecdotal experience mean MDE is perfectly safe? Nope. But I would have no more concern than I ever have had visiting Medellin. Even when you read the numerous stories. If you read beyond the headlines, you'd see that these body counts are not often related to mongering. But again, just one man's opinion.
I often prefer massages during the day and clubs at night. I'm not a fan of Centro; just not my style. I know I could get by with a much cheaper bill. But I left MDE with $1,500 more USD than I planned to.
Massages; I visited Esperanza, Dan Spa, Happy Massage, Tantra Donde Mi Rey and Bendito. Esperanza was worth the visit to just see Andrea. Service was good but a total knockout. Dan Spa, as expected, was a letdown. Good massage, poor HJ. Don't recall the girls name. Happy Massage is always enjoyable. While you'll typically only receive a HJ, it is definitely very sensual. Donde Mi Rey was a big surprise, in a positive way. Called and didn't need an appointment. I cannot remember the girls' names but opted for a threesome. The bad part was that everything was covered. But if lesbo action is your thing, this is your place. It was PSE. Tongues everywhere. Scissoring. It was phenomenal. 360 k with FS which I thought was a great value. And Bendito Spa was another gem. This is another HJ only place. Visited with Amatista one day and then 4 hands with Amatista and Esmerelda. That was on my last day. Really wish I had one more day to visit Esmerelda one on one. I will say Esmerelda is not a spinner. You can see that by the photos. But she is beautiful in person, almost mesmerizing. They definitely get into the ritual part of it. But was a great experience.
The mansion. Went there on a Friday night. About 10:15 ish. There were 10 total people in the bar. Went on a Monday. Maybe 15. They did say they were slammed on Saturday night. Pulled three from the mansion. Geraldine. Recommend. Juliana. High recommend. Nathalia. All was covered but I'd still highly recommend. Going price is 250 k to 300 k for a few hours.
Lleras. It's Lleras. No changes from the last visit. Visited Glow. I've never been impressed with that place. Black Diamond actually had some really good lookers. Took one back and was not disappointed. 300 k. Gustos was a mixed bag. Again, I know many say they get a quote 200 or 300 USD. The highest I paid this time was 600 k and that was basically an all nighter. There were mostly 7's with a few 8's. Saturday night was much less crowded than normal. Tuesday night, the guys outnumbered the girls! But oddly, the prices didn't seem to go up. I got takeout for 2 hours 500 k.
All in all, a great trip. Those of you worried about danger, listen to your gut. But I would not discourage anyone based on my experience.I'm here now in Centro and it's not really that bad. Just got to be careful. I saw 3 providers today. Two were memorable, one fat ass Vinnie from boreto Park in the AM and one girl from New Life, there was over 7 girls there today. I'm not really picky either so the girl I chose was great. Even masturbated after the session to top her off. LOL.
Stay safe, hermanos!
Excellent report, thanks for sharing. Especially the details about the massages. Can I ask where you stayed and how that helped / hindered your mongering? I have an AirBNB booked but I'm not 100% sold on it so I'm looking for other options.
Just got back a few days ago and I'll try to keep this short. Just wanted to share a few thoughts...
I took an Uber to Bar Madrid Friday night and it was a scary sight. I speak fluent Spanish and the Uber driver told me he didn't feel comfortable dropping me off there unless I was meeting buddies. So I asked him to turn around and he dropped me off at Provenza for dinner. I was tired from the flight so I went to sleep after that. It was 9 pm and the streetwalkers around Lleras park looked unappealing.
Last night I went to Lleras park around 8 pm because I was hungry. I went into this restaurant / bar and a girl started talking to me and insisted she was a server but she wasn't; she's one of those girls that get paid for every shot they get out of you. She's down to go out with me on Sunday but I know for a fact she won't fuck due to some trauma with her ex. There was better looking girls and I wonder if they're down to fuck instead. Shots were pricey 70 k COP a pop. I left around 10 pm because there was nobody else there I think it was a mistake to go in so early. 10 pm is the earliest to go in I think. I saw a lot of working girls on my way back and one of them caught my eye. Slim, fit, big boobs (turned out to be fake unfortunately). She charged 400 k COP and it was top 2 worst fuck of my life LOL. I tried kissing her since she was cute and she immediately turned it down and said no kissing. I started sucking on her boobs but she wanted to go straight to PIV. After 2 minutes of her riding me she asked to change position so I put her doggy style and she started groaning. I couldn't touch her hair either. I went to adjust the AC and I got soft from that so she said it was over. No BJ at all either, covered or uncovered. I told her we'd negotiated 400 k for 1 hour and she said it was for "1 polvo" I told her I hadn't cum so there was no way that was 1 polvo and she said the fact I hadn't cum was my problem. Lesson learned these girls are PROs you got to negotiate the fine print ahead of time LOL. In the end I went to bed and I woke up around 3 am so I could've gone up to try and pick up girls at the end of their working shift but I decided to just keep sleeping.
Today I'll be heading to the mansion.Parque chicks try to hustle you. That's why I don't pick them because they have bad service. The whiter the girl the worst the service. I do a lot of negotiating.
Captain Solo
02-26-24, 04:35
Mexico City has a new international airport, NLU, with the old MEX, along with the very busy Cancun Int, are very good gateways for cheap nonstop flights to Central and South America cities:
Multi-city trip Economy $587.
Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 3 HR 25 min TIJ–NLU Nonstop.
Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 2 HR 15 min NLU–CUN Nonstop.
Thu, Apr 4 Wingo 3 HR 8 min CUN–MDE Nonstop.
Fri, Apr 12 Avianca 6 HR 25 min MDE–MEX 1 stop 1 HR 25 min SJO.
Phreeman69
02-26-24, 04:40
My buddy and I had a great time over four days in El Poblado. We had an AirBnB 2-bedroom apartment with nice living area open to a private terrace with jacuzzi. We'd arrange Facebook girls in the early afternoon then later pick up girls from Parque Lleras at night -- two sessions with dinner and a nap in between. The afternoon parties especially were a blast. We'd all get drunk and smoke, dance and slowly get naked, jump in the jacuzzi for some oral sex, then mix up different combinations in the bedrooms. We usually had two girls but sometimes one or three.
We got lucky with the first pair our first afternoon: cute 20 year-old lesbian lovers. They liked fucking us but they really loved doing each other. The one started getting her period, which none of us realized for a bit. Funniest thing to see the little one's face all smeared with blood after eating out her partner. (kind of wrecked our sheets though).
We made some mistakes and learned some lessons. I felt the security downstairs did a good job of protecting us, taking a photograph of the girls' IDs.
- I left some money in a pants pocket which got stolen, and they stole my vibrator.
- Multiply flake outs of Facebook girls. I learned to have two backups who I'd tell that I had an appointment, but if they didn't show I'd call.
- I'd ask the Facebook girls if they had a girlfriend for my buddy, expecting we'd get two friendly to each other if not raging lesbians. But sometimes the girl would just order a chick off Facebook -- one she barely knew (like, "What's your friend's name?" "I don't know her name".
- I left my phone in a cab (stupidly). The cabbie promptly sold it to guys who started trying to break into my accounts. Fortunately I had brought a backup phone and was able to erase the stolen one. Be prepared.
- Generally the older girls were better fucks and definitely gave better head. It's so much fun dancing naked with two 20 year-olds though.
Most accepted 200 thousand pesos ($60), and then I'd tip another 50 k. Others wanted 300 k, which was fine. Some wanted more, but we never sessioned with them for a variety of reasons, not mostly price. I'd generally also give them 20 to 50 mil pesos for cabs.
It felt like we were taking some risks, but not that crazy. It sure was a lot of fun. Hoping to be back soon.
I need to send her the money or she's coming to my apartment.Yeah, this is always an issue once they know where your staying and it don't workout, and regardless of how much your in the right and how ridiculous, unreasonable and nefarious or whatever she's being, you have to, or should worry about what she's going to do the entire time your staying at place. That's why you're better off meeting them at one of these short time hotels.
Exoticspirit
02-26-24, 13:15
I'm here now in Centro and it's not really that bad. Just got to be careful. I saw 3 providers today. Two were memorable, one fat ass Vinnie from boreto Park in the AM and one girl from New Life, there was over 7 girls there today. I'm not really picky either so the girl I chose was great. Even masturbated after the session to top her off. LOL.
Stay safe, hermanos!Thanks for reporting. On Google Maps, the walk from Parque Botero to New Life doesn't look too bad as it's going in the direction away from the rougher streetwalker area.
BlueChange
02-26-24, 13:53
Are there any significant differences in terms of how dangerous they potentially are if they are the ones alone or in groups or pairs?I'm always weary of pairs. Like they know each other and have too much info.
Only do threesomes with a girl you already had a bunch of history with and she has a friend OR you and her go out on a prowl and pull another. Girls that work in pairs, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
You will be OK. I recommend you avoid Parque Bolivar and head directly toward Avenida Oriental along calle 54. That route will keep you on a busy street and away from the druggies and street people in the park.
Thanks for reporting. On Google Maps, the walk from Parque Botero to New Life doesn't look too bad as it's going in the direction away from the rougher streetwalker area.
Nil Admirari
02-26-24, 16:14
Parque chicks try to hustle you. That's why I don't pick them because they have bad service. The whiter the girl the worst the service. I do a lot of negotiating.I don't understand how anyone can generalize about a mongering venue or the ethnicity of chicas in such a dogmatic manner.
Having spent much of the last five years here, I've found the ladies hanging out around Parque Lleras (as in the casas and strip clubs) to encompass the full spectrum of Chicadom. In terms of looks: The occasional gem, most always several in the quite attractive to doable arrange, and the rest in the you "you couldn't pay me to...... " category. In terms of personality and service: some genuinely engaging and provide great full GFE value for the money; others mechanical clock watchers; the others somewhere in-between. Afro-Colombians, mestizas, blancas (Europeos) in all of the above categories. Over time, one gets pretty good at screening for those that promise to be good company and to provide genuine GFE service.
Some of the El Centro Rats on this thread claim that there's no difference in the quality of chicas to be found loitering about Parque Lleras (or in Gustos for that matter) and those in Plaza Botero and vicinity--and insist that there's, in fact, a large number of chicas working both locations, but charging 4 times the price in Lleras. In their view the only difference between the hotter lookin Llleras chicks and the plainer looking Botero broads is a lot of make-up and pricier / sexier outfits. Although I've never recognized chicas from El Centro in Parque Llleras, I don't doubt that there may well be a fair amount of overlap in the girls working both locations. But (speaking as someone who has spent a fair amount of time in El Centro strip clubs--Barre Ejecutiva, Conejitos, etc. -- and meandering about the Plaza Botero, Calle 53, Avenida de Greiff/Raudall mongering grounds), in my experience, in Parque Llleras one still finds a good number of chicas of a type (quality of looks; education and / or more European ancestry in some cases) that you'd never see in El Centro in your lifetime--except perhaps at midnight mass on Nochebuena (Christmas Eve).
I've met two (in my pretty selective view, quite beautiful) chicas in Parque Lleras whom I have seen reqularly for a couple of years in my apartment (one blondish, European parentage, college educated) --and who each get tested regularly for STDs and provide BBFS, often start our sessions with a leisurely, pro-quality stripshow/twerk-dance session, and are enjoyable to hang out with. I'm not 100% sure about this, but it's my impression that fairly often in and around Parque Lleras you'll find some better looking (sometimes better educated) chicas who are not working girls (i.e. not regularly doing multiple tricks per day), and who, only when hard up for cash, will go to the Parque to troll for clients, but who would never think of setting foot in El Centro.
You will be OK. I recommend you avoid Parque Bolivar and head directly toward Avenida Oriental along calle 54. That route will keep you on a busy street and away from the druggies and street people in the park.I've done that walk many times. I try to use different routes at different times to see different things. Daytime no problem with any of them, but always keep an eye out. One time I was with a rather conspicuous gringo and we saw that someone was following us, and we took some evasive action to shake him off. But other than that I enjoy the walk. Sometimes I come across through the various plazas, as much of the area has indoor mall type of walkways between blocks.
You will be OK. I recommend you avoid Parque Boliva...I actually think that is the route he should take to add in sight seeing. It's very busy during daytime with lots of police. I think there is a police station at the park too.
Being followed is what I was getting at with my advice to avoid the park. If the gamines notice a foreigner, in the park especially one who appears to be unfamiliar with is surroundings, I would not be surprised if a few of them decided it would be worth a try to follow him and try to take advantage. Above all, sparsely populated streets are to be avoided at all costs.
I've done that walk many times. I try to use different routes at different times to see different things. Daytime no problem with any of them, but always keep an eye out. One time I was with a rather conspicuous gringo and we saw that someone was following us, and we took some evasive action to shake him off. But other than that I enjoy the walk. Sometimes I come across through the various plazas, as much of the area has indoor mall type of walkways between blocks.
Captain Solo
02-26-24, 20:28
Mexico City has a new international airport, NLU, with the old MEX, along with the very busy Cancun Int, are very good gateways for cheap nonstop flights to Central and South America cities:
Multi-city trip Economy $587.
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Thu, Apr 4 Wingo 3 HR 8 min CUN–MDE Nonstop.
Fri, Apr 12 Avianca 6 HR 25 min MDE–MEX 1 stop 1 HR 25 min SJO.
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Exoticspirit
02-26-24, 21:34
I actually think that is the route he should take to add in sight seeing. It's very busy during daytime with lots of police. I think there is a police station at the park too.I saw photos of this parque and noticed during the daytime (I plan to visit New Life during midday) there were lots of old timers sitting on the benches inside the park.
Exoticspirit
02-26-24, 21:42
It appears that New Life and Energy Spa (near the stadium) are the two better known daytime casas in town. Wondering if those who have visited both can give their feedback on how these two establishments compare. I heard that Energy is pricier and at least on Google feedback, the reviews are very mixed. There's a guy on YouTube that just raves about Energy but he's really the only video review that I've seen (he also gives good feedback on New Life as well on a separate video).
Also, pardon my ignorant question but in mongering where I'm from (Toronto / Montreal) as well as in the past trips to Dominican Rep and Costa Rica as well as in Asia, it's standard practice for both girls and clients to shower (sometimes separately sometimes together depending on the girl). It is this same in MDE no matter if it's in a daytime casa, nighttime strip club room or pulling a girl back to your place from Parque Ileras?
Dcrist0527
02-26-24, 23:46
Excellent report, thanks for sharing. Especially the details about the massages. Can I ask where you stayed and how that helped / hindered your mongering? I have an AirBNB booked but I'm not 100% sold on it so I'm looking for other options.I'll be glad to share along with a big caution sign. I consider this place semi-guest friendly. The place is Soul Lifestyle Apartamentos. If you stay there, you will see several anti sex tourist signs. In addition, you will sign that you will not bring prostitutes there. However, they do allow 3 guests per week free of charge. I have never had a problem there. But, I insist the girls I bring there dress appropriately. I would say if you are discreet, don't cause problems and aren't obvious, you won't have a problem. The security there is great. They did boot a few 18 year olds out last week, not because of girls but because of loud music and the entire floor smelled like weed. It is NOT a party hotel, so to anyone reading, please don't ruin this place. Also, if you are a 10-girl a week guy, at best you'll have to use a love motel in addition. But with common sense, it's a great place. Good location. For what you pay, you get great accomodations. And security is great. They check ID, make a copy and tell the girl that she's not leaving the door without me with her.
Thanks for reporting. On Google Maps, the walk from Parque Botero to New Life doesn't look too bad as it's going in the direction away from the rougher streetwalker area.I'm still new to the area but I personally would not walk to New Life. Just take a Uber, it's literarily a dollar to get there and a dollar to get back to my hotel room. If you're comfortable walking then do you. I know it's a 6-10 min drive but it's really not that bad.
It appears that New Life and Energy Spa (near the stadium) are the two better known daytime casas in town. Wondering if those who have visited both can give their feedback on how these two establishments compare. I heard that Energy is pricier and at least on Google feedback, the reviews are very mixed. There's a guy on YouTube that just raves about Energy but he's really the only video review that I've seen (he also gives good feedback on New Life as well on a separate video).
Also, pardon my ignorant question but in mongering where I'm from (Toronto / Montreal) as well as in the past trips to Dominican Rep and Costa Rica as well as in Asia, it's standard practice for both girls and clients to shower (sometimes separately sometimes together depending on the girl). It is this same in MDE no matter if it's in a daytime casa, nighttime strip club room or pulling a girl back to your place from Parque Ileras?I am by no means an expert but here the cliff note version of my experience of both spots. New Life, went on Sunday. Had over 7 girls, you get the line up, pick the girl and pay after the deed. The girl didn't ask me to shower and was a freak. Our session lasted less than 30 minutes so the charge was 70 mill pesos. Energy. Difference here is that the quality is up a bit but they provide a massage and happy ending. I picked out my girl, asked if I wanted to shower and I said no. She said she'd do no cover service for another 190 mill or something but the session was already 185 mill cop. I paid for BBBJ which was 50 mil. We fuck, she gives me a naked massage and I had to shower to get the oil off and then she showers.
I personally like the Casa's cause you arrive, pick your hoe, cum, then leave and pay accordingly, other spots I'm seeing is they'll upsell you on service and look but it's on you if you can last the duration you paid for. I also went to Sexy Amigas today around 4 PM today. It was dead but full of girls. I porked a Vinnie MILF for thirty minutes and left with a smile on my face.
Last thing, I saw Passport Dog Kenny at Energy today, looked tired. Said he's been doing a lot of tours and was waiting on a client. Funny thing was that during my girl line up, I'm looking these girls up and down and Kenny was just meh, guy said he's been in Medellin for 5 years, he's numb to the females here, I guess.
Gay US citizen stabbed to death in El Poblado.
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Exoticspirit
02-27-24, 03:28
I am by no means an expert but here the cliff note version of my experience of both spots. New Life, went on Sunday. Had over 7 girls, you get the line up, pick the girl and pay after the deed. The girl didn't ask me to shower and was a freak. Our session lasted less than 30 minutes so the charge was 70 mill pesos. Energy. Difference here is that the quality is up a bit but they provide a massage and happy ending. I picked out my girl, asked if I wanted to shower and I said no. She said she'd do no cover service for another 190 mill or something but the session was already 185 mill cop. I paid for BBBJ which was 50 mil. We fuck, she gives me a naked massage and I had to shower to get the oil off and then she showers.Thanks for your feedback on your awesome visits. Wow looks like Energy is almost triple the rate of New Life then. But at least it sounds like both are worth visiting. I'll check on Sexy Amigas too.
It is nothing you should try after dark. During daylight hours it's not a problem. The worst part of it is the block just east of Avenida Oriental that is an open air flophouse and latrine for street people. The odors will take your breath away. That's another reason I recommend following east then turn north (left).
I'm still new to the area but I personally would not walk to New Life. Just take a Uber, it's literarily a dollar to get there and a dollar to get back to my hotel room. If you're comfortable walking then do you. I know it's a 6-10 min drive but it's really not that bad.
Thanks for the tip on this place I will take a look.
I'll be glad to share along with a big caution sign. I consider this place semi-guest friendly. The place is Soul Lifestyle Apartamentos...
Passport Dog Kenny is a colorful nickname. I'm not familiar with his "work" but he should take care to maintain a low profile. Partly because of the pandemic, it's been pretty quiet on the foreigner prosecution scene in the past five years. He might not be aware of the sad end some of his predecessors have had. The Reader's Digest version is once monetization of the scene becomes more prominent than local authorities consider acceptable for Colombian sensibilities, then the hammer comes down on whoever is easy to find. By find I mean show up in Internet searches or on the seized electronics and / or statements of the more reckless class of punters who find themselves in contact with law enforcement in compromising situations.
I am by no means an expert but here the cliff note version of my experience of both spots. New Life, went on Sunday. Had over 7 girls, you get the line up, pick the girl and pay after the deed. The girl didn't ask me to shower and was a freak. Our session lasted less than 30 minutes so the charge was 70 mill pesos. Energy. Difference here is that the quality is up a bit but they provide a massage and happy ending. I picked out my girl, asked if I wanted to shower and I said no. She said she'd do no cover service for another 190 mill or something but the session was already 185 mill cop. I paid for BBBJ which was 50 mil. We fuck, she gives me a naked massage and I had to shower to get the oil off and then she showers.
I personally like the Casa's cause you arrive, pick your hoe, cum, then leave and pay accordingly, other spots I'm seeing is they'll upsell you on service and look but it's on you if you can last the duration you paid for. I also went to Sexy Amigas today around 4 PM today. It was dead but full of girls. I porked a Vinnie MILF for thirty minutes and left with a smile on my face.
Last thing, I saw Passport Dog Kenny at Energy today, looked tired. Said he's been doing a lot of tours and was waiting on a client. Funny thing was that during my girl line up, I'm looking these girls up and down and Kenny was just meh, guy said he's been in Medellin for 5 years, he's numb to the females here, I guess.
You might not have noticed among the oldtimers there are also many drug addicts who hang on the benches nearer the catherdral. Less of a concern are the trans streetwalkers who work the area near the police station.
I saw photos of this parque and noticed during the daytime (I plan to visit New Life during midday) there were lots of old timers sitting on the benches inside the park.
Being followed is what I was getting at with my advice to avoid the park. If the gamines notice a foreigner, in the park especially one who appears to be unfamiliar with is surroundings, I would not be surprised if a few of them decided it would be worth a try to follow him and try to take advantage. Above all, sparsely populated streets are to be avoided at all costs.The incident where I got followed was from some guy that had asked for something earlier, somewhere around the metro station I think, and then followed us for a while. Because he had originally said something to us I had my eye on him as he began to follow us. But it had nothing to do with any park or whatever. Just something that could happen anywhere. Parque Bolivar is only a bit different as it is an area with more trannies, but I don't think it is more or less dangerous. Crowded areas where you walk through a lot of people are the most dangerous likely as far as daytime walking around, and perhaps areas under the metro tracks as you go towards the Prado station.
......Also, pardon my ignorant question but in mongering where I'm from (Toronto / Montreal) as well as in the past trips to Dominican Rep and Costa Rica as well as in Asia, it's standard practice for both girls and clients to shower (sometimes separately sometimes together depending on the girl)......I always shower before the deed and ask the girl to do so as well. Great if together. Makes for a better session. Also I always shower after.
I always shower before the deed and ask the girl to do so as well. Great if together. Makes for a better session. Also I always shower after.Don't go to La Bocatoreña then ja ja.
I always shower before the deed and ask the girl to do so as well. Great if together. Makes for a better session. Also I always shower after.This is extremely bad advice especially if you are showering alone while in the room with the girl, it is giving her the opportunity to go through your pockets while you are in the shower.
I suggest you shower at your house or hotel room beforehand. Never shower once with the girl unless if you are both showering at the same time and even then never let her get out of the shower before you do. Always keep an eye on her constantly.
It is much easier just to not shower. Most girls use baby wipes to clean themselves before and after sessions they call them pañitos and this is much better than showering. And if the girl asks you to shower, this is a red flag because she wants to go thru your pockets. Just tell her you already just showered right before you left your place because you have a ducha eléctrica and don't like to shower with cold water.
I saw photos of this parque and noticed during the daytime (I plan to visit New Life during midday) there were lots of old timers sitting on the benches inside the park.There used to be a short time hotel by the park but it is gone after COVID. Memorize the route and knowing where you are going will help you with safety. This route has better landmark as reference point so it is easier to remember.
You can consider taking the street Cr 49 to the park, turn to CL 54. Don't go toward west if you don't know what you are doing. The middle and the east side of the park are better than the west side of the park.
There are many restaurants on Cr 49. You can pick a 2nd floor one and have lunch and people watch. There are also several well-known restaurants. One is Versalles which is an old school type of restaurant that is rare in Medellin but common in Buenos Aires that may be interesting to you.
There is an university on CL 56 before you reach New Life. There are many decent small local Colombian restaurants that you can try. You can have breakfast or lunch there if you want to experience some local life style and food.
Captain Solo
02-27-24, 18:05
Mexico City has a new international airport, NLU, with the old MEX, along with the very busy Cancun Int, are very good gateways for cheap nonstop flights to Central and South America cities:
Multi-city trip Economy $587.
Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 3 HR 25 min TIJ–NLU Nonstop.
Mon, Mar 25 VivaAerobus 2 HR 15 min NLU–CUN Nonstop.
Thu, Apr 4 Wingo 3 HR 8 min CUN–MDE Nonstop.
Fri, Apr 12 Avianca 6 HR 25 min MDE–MEX 1 stop 1 HR 25 min SJO.
Fri, Apr 12 VivaAerobus 3 HR 50 min MEX–TIJ Nonstop.
El Mechanico
02-27-24, 18:11
This continues to puzzle me because Schwab refunds my ATM fees right away, not at the end of the month. I must know somebody or blow somebody.FWIW, I just went over my Schwab acct online. For the last several trips they refunded my ATM fees at the end of the month.
El Mechanico.
This is extremely bad advice especially if you are showering alone while in the room with the girl, it is giving her the opportunity to go through your pockets while you are in the shower.
I suggest you shower at your house or hotel room beforehand. Never shower once with the girl unless if you are both showering at the same time and even then never let her get out of the shower before you do. Always keep an eye on her constantly.
It is much easier just to not shower. Most girls use baby wipes to clean themselves before and after sessions they call them paitos and this is much better than showering. And if the girl asks you to shower, this is a red flag because she wants to go thru your pockets. Just tell her you already just showered right before you left your place because you have a ducha elctrica and don't like to shower with cold water.It's not necessarily bad advice. It depends on your location. Street girls in Short time hotels, bad advice. Someplace like Energy, it's usually requested by the girl and she will often join you. In your hotel or apartment, or at a better love motel, it's a good idea to shower with the girl.
Of course there are guys who don't want the girls freshly washed.
El Mechanico
02-27-24, 19:08
Ok, this will be the last ATM post until I get foto evidence of the ATMs asking me if I am ok with the Transaction fee on my next trip.
I asked the question earlier and it was never answered, probably because it was buried in the middle of the post.
Here is the question again:
Why would anyone on the face of the planet accept the banks conversion rate?
El Mechanico.
I think there are two reasons it happens. One reason is ignorance about what conversion rate means and what better rate is available. The other reason is inattention. I once ripped myself off by accepting the conversion rate without meaning to accept it because I had been drinking. Drunk banking is not a good practice.
Ok, this will be the last ATM post until I get foto evidence of the ATMs asking me if I am ok with the Transaction fee on my next trip.
I asked the question earlier and it was never answered, probably because it was buried in the middle of the post.
Here is the question again:
Why would anyone on the face of the planet accept the banks conversion rate?
El Mechanico.
Exoticspirit
02-27-24, 20:04
There used to be a short time hotel by the park but it is gone after COVID. Memorize the route and knowing where you are going will help you with safety. This route has better landmark as reference point so it is easier to remember.
You can consider taking the street Cr 49 to the park, turn to CL 54. Don't go toward west if you don't know what you are doing. The middle and the east side of the park are better than the west side of the park.
There are many restaurants on Cr 49. You can pick a 2nd floor one and have lunch and people watch. There are also several well-known restaurants. One is Versalles which is an old school type of restaurant that is rare in Medellin but common in Buenos Aires that may be interesting to you.
There is an university on CL 56 before you reach New Life. There are many decent small local Colombian restaurants that you can try. You can have breakfast or lunch there if you want to experience some local life style and food.Yes I noticed some sort of university buildings in the same area as New Life so I figure that area would be safer. I plan to wizz by the Parque Botero area just long enough to gaze at the statues then walk at a good pace towards New Life area and back to the Metro. I do like the idea of stopping for late lunch after a session at New Life before heading back to the Metro.
For a visit to Energy, I see there's a short walk from the Metro around the stadium and it also looks pretty safe there. Maybe some eateries there too after a session or I might head back to the Metro to visit Comuna 13.
Ok, this will be the last ATM post until I get foto evidence of the ATMs asking me if I am ok with the Transaction fee on my next trip.
I asked the question earlier and it was never answered, probably because it was buried in the middle of the post.
Here is the question again:
Why would anyone on the face of the planet accept the banks conversion rate?
El Mechanico.Because just under 50% of the population is stupider than average.
Ok, this will be the last ATM post until I get foto evidence of the ATMs asking me if I am ok with the Transaction fee on my next trip.
I asked the question earlier and it was never answered, probably because it was buried in the middle of the post.
Here is the question again:
Why would anyone on the face of the planet accept the banks conversion rate?
El Mechanico.Because it is deceptively worded and it appears as if you need to say yes in order to get pesos. You don't get this option in American ATMs so if you are new to traveling overseas or using ATMs overseas, you may think that you need to say yes in order to get pesos from the ATM. Unless you did some research, you might think you need to say yes to conduct the transaction successfully.
VsebudetNY
02-27-24, 21:55
Is there any good solution for getting change though? It is so frustrating to get mostly all big bills from the ATM and then when I try to pay for something I either get an exasperated look from the employee and they have to go see someone else in order to get change, or worse, they say they don't have that much change (nothing crazy, just a 50 k or 100 k bill).If you're using Schwab or Capital One or other card that refunds ATM fees then after your main withdrawal of 1 or 2 millions just make 1/2/3 withdrawals 80 K each. You'll receive 4/8/12 20 K bills.
If you're still using the card with ATM fees then just select other amount and enter 1,980,000 instead of 2,000,000 or 980,000 instead of 1,000,000 and you will get 4 20 K bills right away.
One more time reminder for new members. ALWAYS decline conversion at ATM!
Why would anyone on the face of the planet accept the banks conversion rate?
El Mechanico.Because they are stupid and don't know any better? Or maybe they think the ATM will decline their transaction unless if they accept it?
I personally think it's just a lack of experience. Once you start coming down here more and more over the years you get used to everything and you know to decline the ATM conversion rate. However, a first time visitor who has never seen it before, maybe he wouldn't know to decline it because it's something he's never done before.
It's kinda like when you're buying an airplane ticket online and they ask you if you want all the bullshit extras like priority bording or travel insurance and you have to make sure you check no.
Yes I noticed some sort of university buildings in the same area as New Life so I figure that area would be safer. I plan to wizz by the Parque Botero area just long enough to gaze at the statues then walk at a good pace towards New Life area and back to the Metro. I do like the idea of stopping for late lunch after a session at New Life before heading back to the Metro.
.That block can be grimy AF walking from Oriental. The usual homeless dudes lying around. Good luck with the Metro. I rarely take it since cabs are so inexpensive and the metro can get uncomfortably crowded and hot at times, especially during the workweek.
Anyone here or know anyone who is a non speaker and straight up got robbed? What do you even do if you are alone, no ID, phone, since all of your stuff was in a hotel room that you may or may not even have directions to anymore.
TheDerilious
02-28-24, 02:53
Anyone here or know anyone who is a non speaker and straight up got robbed? What do you even do if you are alone, no ID, phone, since all of your stuff was in a hotel room that you may or may not even have directions to anymore.First goal, don't be stupid and have that happen to you. Second goal, learn the literal basic concept of situational awareness. You should know where you are at all times and how to generally get back to your place if worse came to worst. There is no way they should be getting into your safe so you should never lose everything. But if you did have something really bad happen at your room, it's pretty simple.
Go to the front desk and tell them, they will bring the police. If you don't have a front desk or are away from your place, go to the police and mumble out what happened to you. They will understand very easily when Mr. Gringo cries about getting robbed. Get them to get you to the American embassy (or whatever nation you hail from). Prepare your excuses for your partner about how you got scoped when you "tried to help two 19-year-old Vennies who desperately begged you give them a place to stay because they had no money and needed a 'papi' to help them. " You would never do that in America, but you were just so moved by their plight and out of the kindness of your heart, you gave them a place to stay. Unfortunately, they betrayed your trust and violated your honor LOL. You'll have a lot of time to think up something even more whimsical than that.
Mr Enternational
02-28-24, 03:52
Because just under 50% of the population is stupider than average.Definitely more than 50. I am surprised at how many seasoned travelers I know that do not have a currency conversion app on their phone. The other day my ex-girlfriend asked me about something I told her and she got offended when I told her to search on google. I guess most people have phones for only taking pictures and playing games.
Ok, this will be the last ATM post until I get foto evidence of the ATMs asking me if I am ok with the Transaction fee on my next trip.
I asked the question earlier and it was never answered, probably because it was buried in the middle of the post.
Here is the question again:
Why would anyone on the face of the planet accept the banks conversion rate?
El Mechanico.Because they don't know. Simple. Not stupid, not anything, just not informed. You have to know what your own bank is going to charge you in order to know whether what is offered is a better option or not, and I can guarantee that very few people actually know what they are being charged, hence they just don't know. Until someone tells them. Which this board does.
Energy. Difference here is that the quality is up a bit but they provide a massage and happy ending. I picked out my girl, asked if I wanted to shower and I said no. She said she'd do no cover service for another 190 mill or something but the session was already 185 mill cop. I paid for BBBJ which was 50 mil. We fuck, she gives me a naked massage and I had to shower to get the oil off and then she showers.How did the girl look? Usually or least I was quoted 200 k one and 150 k for another for BBBJ at energy. 50 k is usually the going rate for BBBJ in the regular casa's. That's a good deal at energy. And her offering no cover service without asking is surprising, usually you get a flat no when you you asked that at energy or any other casa for that matter. But if she's offering it up front without you asking, is a bit of a red flag to me, especially if she doesn't even shower first. I alway like a bit of a push back or uncertainty if I asked them for full bareback service. At least if she shows some caution it gives you at least some piece of mind that she believes she's clean. If they don't care one way or another, who knows why!
50 k is usually the going rate for BBBJ in the regular casa's. Is that what they're asking for now? I gave a girl 25 k last week and I thought that was good. I don't go often but 50 K is the highest I've ever heard.
Because they don't know. Simple. Not stupid, not anything, just not informed. You have to know what your own bank is going to charge you in order to know whether what is offered is a better option or not, and I can guarantee that very few people actually know what they are being charged, hence they just don't know. Until someone tells them. Which this board does.ATMs ask 2 questions. One is if you accept the fee for using the ATM. If you say no, the transaction gets canceled. I think a lot of people who don't know any better assume that if they say no to the bank conversion question rate, the transaction will get canceled. Like you said, not stupid, just uninformed.
El Mechanico
02-28-24, 16:32
Because just under 50% of the population is stupider than average.That's pretty funny!
El Mechanico.
El Mechanico
02-28-24, 16:37
One is if you accept the fee for using the ATM. If you say no, the transaction gets canceled,Thank you. Some people have never seen this at an ATM in Colombia!
El Mechanico.
Exoticspirit
02-28-24, 18:02
ATMs ask 2 questions. One is if you accept the fee for using the ATM. If you say no, the transaction gets canceled. I think a lot of people who don't know any better assume that if they say no to the bank conversion question rate, the transaction will get canceled. Like you said, not stupid, just uninformed.I've been watching several YouTube videos on using ATMS during general international travel and all of them suggest that we should never accept the local bank's conversion rate as it will always be higher than our own bank's rate. They also say that foreign banks like to hide things such as the fact that you can still withdraw local cash by declining the local bank's conversion rate and they usually do this by making the buttons on the screen quite large in order to entice you to accept their rate. Most of the time we will still have some small charges for using a foreign ATM but just much less if we decline the foreign local bank's conversion rate.
Did anyone feel that earthquake last night? I was massive!
Did anyone feel that earthquake last night? I was massive!Someone mentioned it in the Stupid Shit Medellin section.
It woke me up. I forgot about it because I thought it was a dream. When I saw it on TV news later in the day I realized what it was.
Someone mentioned it in the Stupid Shit Medellin section.
ChuchoLoco
02-29-24, 15:37
I've been watching several YouTube videos on using ATMS during general international travel and all of them suggest that we should never accept the local bank's conversion rate as it will always be higher than our own bank's rate. They also say that foreign banks like to hide things such as the fact that you can still withdraw local cash by declining the local bank's conversion rate and they usually do this by making the buttons on the screen quite large in order to entice you to accept their rate. Most of the time we will still have some small charges for using a foreign ATM but just much less if we decline the foreign local bank's conversion rate.The BVVA ATM on La 70, the one with 2 doors across and a block away from Hotel Medeterano did not give the option of conversation rates as it had in the past. I always used that one because of convenience and seemed safe. It only asked if it was a withdrawal and from current account then asks if you agree to the 20,000 and change fee. I just checked with Schwab and the gal gave me the rate they used but it was 1 pesos to dollar so I asked what rate was how many pesos per dollar and not how much 1 peso was. She took me to VISA.com where there is a conversion area and the rate was almost exactly the current exchange rate of 3995 plus or minus. Rates change all the time and it was so close as to not make a difference. Has anybody else used the BVVA ATM's there and did you experience anything different as far as being asked whether or not you accept their rate? I'm satisfied with they was it worked for me but am curious as to why it didn't give rate option. Like someone else mentioned, Schwab returns transaction fee on the last day of the month.
The going rate is 30 K. You can negotiate down in some cases. Girls will try to get guys to pay as much as they think they can get away with.
Is that what they're asking for now? I gave a girl 25 k last week and I thought that was good. I don't go often but 50 K is the highest I've ever heard.
My trip (Medellin and Bogota) is coming up in a couple weeks and I am trying to come up with my daily plan for the trip. If you were trying to maximize your mongering time in Medellin (seeing 3-4 women per day) and trying to have some variety (casas, strip clubs, street girls), what would be your ideal day?
TraveLight
03-01-24, 02:03
Ok, this will be the last ATM post until I get foto evidence of the ATMs asking me if I am ok with the Transaction fee on my next trip.
I asked the question earlier and it was never answered, probably because it was buried in the middle of the post.
Here is the question again:
Why would anyone on the face of the planet accept the banks conversion rate?
El Mechanico.When I first learned of this prior to a trip to Mexico, I remember that I would have likely accepted it, thinking, I would be canceling the transaction otherwise. I'm thankful for having done some RTF prior to my first trip to LATAM.
BlueChange
03-01-24, 03:19
EVELYN.
https://masajistaspaisas.com/masajista/nikolmendez/
+57 3013465400.
180 K 1 HR + 70 K for oral natural.
RUN don't walk to this gem. *.
I was working all day and finally had some time free. Only thing is I couldn't decide if I should go to Loutron and spend the 400*+ or find an independent. I Finally after texting back and forthand her disappearing*in between clients I was able to book her around 4 pm.
The address that prepago building Del Rio, I mean I must have seen atleast*50 different*girls over the*years in different apartments. Typcial drill, go to the security, have your ID ready and make sure you walk to the correct tower (torre) Pro tip, some elevators don't go all the way up and you have to walk up one or twoflights*to the final floor.
I knock, she answers right away and this gorgeous 5'2 pochahontas with long black straight hair hitting the bottom of her ass. She is wearing a bikini and her nice full see cups sit perfect on her petite frame. I can notice a very small ammount of baby damage on her stomach however it honeslty is very small you barely notice, you easily can look past it. She greets with me such happiness, a smile and a small peck. She is a light skin*with a kiss of cinnamon. *.
I walk into the bedroom, more kissing then I give her some pesos. She comes back about 1 minute later. She offers a shower however I told her I showered right before I came over. We start to make out more and she knows I paid for oral natural. She asks me how I like it I say "suauve*& passionate" She starts to suck me and I'm already like morning wood levels of hard and she gentle makes love to my dick. She knows exaclty what to do as she looks at me soo fucking sexy with my knish in her mouth. * She does this sloppy wet BJ for like 10 minute, I even ask if she does 69. She climbs on and damn she is super clean, she responds really well and can barely suck as she strokes me and I can feel her really enjoying it. *.
We strap on and she gets on top. She has a tight little puss and doesn't even put lube on, she slides in and I can feel the warmth of her little fuck hole. *.
We switch to missionary then on the side missionary and lots of kissing, I try and make her cum but then she shows me a position that she likes that does that. She lays on her stomach and guides my cock in and she bounces her ass to me while rubbing her clit on the bed while her legs are close together and I thrust on her. We fuck in this poistion for a while and I can see her face flush red as she has a real O. Totally shaking and sensitive. *.
Finally I'm ready to pop and ask her where she wants it, she ask for her tits. She wipes again and keeps sucking and stroking me till I shoot a 7 roper all over her perfectly*perky see cup bolt ONS. Damn. Such a good fuck. After she gets me some water and is just asking me questions and lightly strokes my body and being very "carinos". I found out the chick is 28! I thought she was like 21, or 22 max. She surprised me. * I get dressed, she DFK me goodbye and I'm off to enjoy the rest of the evening feeling satisified. Will repeat. * Some side notes about her face, she does have a young face however you can tell she recovered from some acne and has parts when you get up close you can see some crater face things like near the sides of her face by her ear. However, its nothing that distracts you from her beauty or the fact that she is a great fuck!
It woke me up. I forgot about it because I thought it was a dream. When I saw it on TV news later in the day I realized what it was.I'm in Centro and I didn't feel anything and I'm a light sleeper.
How did the girl look? Usually or least I was quoted 200 k one and 150 k for another for BBBJ at energy. 50 k is usually the going rate for BBBJ in the regular casa's. That's a good deal at energy. And her offering no cover service without asking is surprising, usually you get a flat no when you you asked that at energy or any other casa for that matter. But if she's offering it up front without you asking, is a bit of a red flag to me, especially if she doesn't even shower first. I alway like a bit of a push back or uncertainty if I asked them for full bareback service. At least if she shows some caution it gives you at least some piece of mind that she believes she's clean. If they don't care one way or another, who knows why!She was nice looking. My rating would be a 7/10 as she had a nice face but her personality is what got me to pick her. She had that leader demeanor. I can see others giving her a 6 but not a 5 though. Yeah, I'm hearing a lot of girls from New life go work Energy for a little bit high pay. Again, it was an alright experience but I wouldn't repeat. Maybe with the girl cause she was fun but the service IMO was worth the over 200 mil pesos.
Also, it's not unusual for a lot of these Casa girls to offer BBBJ and uncovered service if you pick the right one. It's if you want to pay the price that gets me.
My trip (Medellin and Bogota) is coming up in a couple weeks and I am trying to come up with my daily plan for the trip. If you were trying to maximize your mongering time in Medellin (seeing 3-4 women per day) and trying to have some variety (casas, strip clubs, street girls), what would be your ideal day?If you are trying to see 3 or 4 per day and doing all these sorts of venues you will likely run out of time. City is big enough that you will burn a lot of time going from one part to another, finding places, etc. My ideal day would be to not do that. Logistics will get you if you are moving around to all those different things. Traffic jams, etc, etc.
First visit here in Medellin is going real well, especially since I'm in Centro in order to be closer to the action.
I've been hooking up with a lot of Vinnies and they've been super cool and trenquilo with me, even though my Spanish is see+, we use GT to speak when we want to get across a topic. Anyway. I've been quoted by SW's that the going rate is around 70 mil for thirty minutes, and somewhere around 100-200 mil for the hour and depending on services if you go to the short stay hotel. None of the SW pros I've seen have tried to play me with the price and even corrected me to the correct lower price. Shit you won't see in the states, brah.
Also, Casa's like New Life and Sexy Amigas are my go to cause you can't beat a 70 mil 30 minute session for real.
Energy's rate was fine for what it was but I don't think I'll go to Loutron or anywhere else for the remainder of my stay.
Also, I ordered a Vinnie MILF off of Miltereroticos and she practically stayed the remainder of the night into the morning and only charged 300 mil for over an hour session. She was fun. I really can't be mad with these prices and glad I took the dip to come here. It's a Heaven for Ass and it speaks true. Just can't burn all my money here. Got to return and make money in the states.
My trip (Medellin and Bogota) is coming up in a couple weeks and I am trying to come up with my daily plan for the trip. If you were trying to maximize your mongering time in Medellin (seeing 3-4 women per day) and trying to have some variety (casas, strip clubs, street girls), what would be your ideal day?Start with a trip to the casas in centro. I don't know what time you want to start but these joints are fully loaded with chicas from late morning to late afternoon. Have lunch, return to home base for a date with facebook chica. These girls party late so a later date, 4-6 pm will work. Rest up, have dinner then head to strip clubs after 10 pm, earlier, if you want to hit the edgy ones in centro. Get some action there & if you still have money, energy & leche, head to parque lleras where there will be chicas strolling til very late, 4 am or so. A wonderful, 4 chica day!
EVELYN.
https://masajistaspaisas.com/masajista/nikolmendez/
+57 3013465400.
180 K 1 HR + 70 K for oral natural.
RUN don't walk to this gem. *.
I was working all day and finally had some time free. Only thing is I couldn't decide if I should go to Loutron and spend the 400*+ or find an independent. I Finally after texting back and forthand her disappearing*in between clients I was able to book her around 4 pm.
The address that prepago building Del Rio, I mean I must have seen atleast*50 different*girls over the*years in different apartments. Typcial drill, go to the security, have your ID ready and make sure you walk to the correct tower (torre) Pro tip, some elevators don't go all the way up and you have to walk up one or twoflights*to the final floor.
I knock, she answers right away and this gorgeous 5'2 pochahontas with long black straight hair hitting the bottom of her ass. She is wearing a bikini and her nice full see cups sit perfect on her petite frame. I can notice a very small ammount of baby damage on her stomach however it honeslty is very small you barely notice, you easily can look past it. She greets with me such happiness, a smile and a small peck. She is a light skin*with a kiss of cinnamon. *.
I walk into the bedroom, more kissing then I give her some pesos. She comes back about 1 minute later. She offers a shower however I told her I showered right before I came over. We start to make out more and she knows I paid for oral natural. She asks me how I like it I say "suauve*& passionate" She starts to suck me and I'm already like morning wood levels of hard and she gentle makes love to my dick. She knows exaclty what to do as she looks at me soo fucking sexy with my knish in her mouth. * She does this sloppy wet BJ for like 10 minute, I even ask if she does 69. She climbs on and damn she is super clean, she responds really well and can barely suck as she strokes me and I can feel her really enjoying it. *.
We strap on and she gets on top. She has a tight little puss and doesn't even put lube on, she slides in and I can feel the warmth of her little fuck hole. *.
We switch to missionary then on the side missionary and lots of kissing, I try and make her cum but then she shows me a position that she likes that does that. She lays on her stomach and guides my cock in and she bounces her ass to me while rubbing her clit on the bed while her legs are close together and I thrust on her. We fuck in this poistion for a while and I can see her face flush red as she has a real O. Totally shaking and sensitive. *.
Finally I'm ready to pop and ask her where she wants it, she ask for her tits. She wipes again and keeps sucking and stroking me till I shoot a 7 roper all over her perfectly*perky see cup bolt ONS. Damn. Such a good fuck. After she gets me some water and is just asking me questions and lightly strokes my body and being very "carinos". I found out the chick is 28! I thought she was like 21, or 22 max. She surprised me. * I get dressed, she DFK me goodbye and I'm off to enjoy the rest of the evening feeling satisified. Will repeat. * Some side notes about her face, she does have a young face however you can tell she recovered from some acne and has parts when you get up close you can see some crater face things like near the sides of her face by her ear. However, its nothing that distracts you from her beauty or the fact that she is a great fuck!That specific website you used, do you have to go to incall for all of the girls? Or is this one big building?
Just wondering why everyone says don't goto incall youll get scoped and organs sold. Also do you know what the VIP stands for on that site as some of the girls say "theyre not prepagos / prepaid" yet still advertise.
The going rate is 30 K. You can negotiate down in some cases. Girls will try to get guys to pay as much as they think they can get away with.Yeah, that sounds more reasonable. I don't go often, but anything from 10 K to 30 K has been more of my experience, but I understand why tourists wind up paying more for everything. Anyway, the best casas on the low key ones that are off the grid. I cringe at the thought of going to Parque Lleras now, as I remember how it was 10 or more years ago. Happy Hunting!!
Exoticspirit
03-01-24, 13:18
Yeah, that sounds more reasonable. I don't go often, but anything from 10 K to 30 K has been more of my experience, but I understand why tourists wind up paying more for everything. Anyway, the best casas on the low key ones that are off the grid. I cringe at the thought of going to Parque Lleras now, as I remember how it was 10 or more years ago. Happy Hunting!!From everything I've read about Parque Lleras girls (regarding safety, etc) and all the videos online, I think the way this location would fit into my first trip is not really where I would pull any girls since I'll have the casas during the daytime and the Mansion at night plus maybe Loutron too as a backup. Instead, I'll visit Parque Lleras just to chill out and watch all the eye candy go by when I'm done with the tourist stuff for the day as well as in between any sessions.
Since I'm not much of a drinker and really don't like the loud music environment of a strip club anymore at my age, I would much rather sit outside in a nice pleasant environment to watch girls go by rather than in La Isla and Fase Dos. But what seems to be good about Medellin is that it has venues to fit any taste or style that guys might like whether in a crazier party like environment or a more quiet subdued one.
Exoticspirit
03-01-24, 13:22
Also, Casa's like New Life and Sexy Amigas are my go to cause you can't beat a 70 mil 30 minute session for real.
Energy's rate was fine for what it was but I don't think I'll go to Loutron or anywhere else for the remainder of my stay.Thanks for your feedback on the casas as they will most definitely be on my visit schedule. How did you find the selection in terms of numbers available to choose from and quality compared with New Life, Sexy Amigas and Energy?
Earlier this week I was surprised to discover that Zandaly is still only 55 K for 30 minutes.
First visit here in Medellin is going real well, especially since I'm in Centro in order to be closer to the action.
I've been hooking up with a lot of Vinnies and they've been super cool and trenquilo with me, even though my Spanish is see+, we use GT to speak when we want to get across a topic. Anyway. I've been quoted by SW's that the going rate is around 70 mil for thirty minutes, and somewhere around 100-200 mil for the hour and depending on services if you go to the short stay hotel. None of the SW pros I've seen have tried to play me with the price and even corrected me to the correct lower price. Shit you won't see in the states, brah.
Also, Casa's like New Life and Sexy Amigas are my go to cause you can't beat a 70 mil 30 minute session for real.
Energy's rate was fine for what it was but I don't think I'll go to Loutron or anywhere else for the remainder of my stay.
Also, I ordered a Vinnie MILF off of Miltereroticos and she practically stayed the remainder of the night into the morning and only charged 300 mil for over an hour session. She was fun. I really can't be mad with these prices and glad I took the dip to come here. It's a Heaven for Ass and it speaks true. Just can't burn all my money here. Got to return and make money in the states.
I've been quoted by SW's that the going rate is... Normally the opening quote is 50 mil + room, the vast majority of them are happy with 40, which was the old rate and some still open with it.
Centro streets are 30 K to 50 K plus hotel room of 8 k to 20 K.
First visit here in Medellin is going real well, especially since I'm in Centro in order to be closer to the action.
I've been hooking up with a lot of Vinnies and they've been super cool and trenquilo with me, even though my Spanish is see+, we use GT to speak when we want to get across a topic. Anyway. I've been quoted by SW's that the going rate is around 70 mil for thirty minutes, and somewhere around 100-200 mil for the hour and depending on services if you go to the short stay hotel. None of the SW pros I've seen have tried to play me with the price and even corrected me to the correct lower price. Shit you won't see in the states, brah.
Also, Casa's like New Life and Sexy Amigas are my go to cause you can't beat a 70 mil 30 minute session for real.
Energy's rate was fine for what it was but I don't think I'll go to Loutron or anywhere else for the remainder of my stay..
BlueChange
03-01-24, 15:19
My trip (Medellin and Bogota) is coming up in a couple weeks and I am trying to come up with my daily plan for the trip. If you were trying to maximize your mongering time in Medellin (seeing 3-4 women per day) and trying to have some variety (casas, strip clubs, street girls), what would be your ideal day?Of course you want to see that many the first day, but trust us you will run out of steam however if you wanted to maximize your time I would do this.
1. Start hitting up FB and Seeking girls now, get some WhatsApp numbers and build some reporre with girls and let them know the dates you are coming.
2. Take a midday flight so you get into Medellin around 10 pm. Check into an airbnb so you can host easy, hit me I'll give you some places that are easy with girls coming in.
3. Order rappi and stock up on supplies, water, wine, beer, snacks, eggs for the morning etc. You want to be well rested and have all this out of the way.
4. Wake up around 9 or 10, and head over to a casa. If you want top shelf go to Loutron (400 K) for Middle Class go to Fantisa Energy for bottom go new life (I mean win terms of price).
6. It is noon now, go grab lunch, head back to your crib and chill. Start chasing up a girl and see if you can get some girl to come thru around 3 or 4 pm.
7. Bone a FB or Seeking chick, that will usually be a couple hours.
8. Grab dinner, go to a mall etc.
9. Head over to a strip club like Fase Dos or somthing and bone a chick from there.
10. Head to bed and do it all over again!!
BlueChange
03-01-24, 15:24
That specific website you used, do you have to go to incall for all of the girls? Or is this one big building?
Just wondering why everyone says don't goto incall youll get scoped and organs sold. Also do you know what the VIP stands for on that site as some of the girls say "theyre not prepagos / prepaid" yet still advertise.I been using that site for a decade or more.
All the girls are independents, they each have different places they work out of. However Torres Del Rio is one of the more popular Prepago apartment buildings for some reason or another. It's been that way for as long as I can remember. I have banged multiple different in sometimes the same apartment but a different bedroom without realizing it.
It's all independents however you can see the girls place ads on many different sites if you google their number.
As far as VIP it just means they paid more for their ad to be placed higher on the screen.
As far as being scoped, generally sites like these the girls are professionals and have a long time in the game. I understand you being cautious which is good. I would say, if your spider sense goes off then turn around and bounce. I think I found find more of the fake girls not being real on a site like Milerotics because the ads are cheaper to place.
Wondering if there are girls available at night near Parque Poblado or if this is more a quiet residential park?
Am buying an apartment for a possible Air BNB on 43 d Street in the Parque of Poblado Building. Need renovation, so it is 40 years old now and needs work. Building is about 12 stories high and says Edificio El Poblado. Anyone familiar with this building? Strata 6 so it should be upper class.
Thanks for the itinerary / tips fellas. BlueChange what is the best way to get in touch with you. I have one booked but I can still cancel and I found another that's nice close to Lleras Park but I'd like to hear your recommendations.
.....Check into an airbnb so you can host easy, hit me I'll give you some places that are easy with girls coming in....
Start with a trip to the casas in centro. I don't know what time you want to start but these joints are fully loaded with chicas from late morning to late afternoon. Have lunch, return to home base for a date with facebook chica. These girls party late so a later date, 4-6 pm will work. Rest up, have dinner then head to strip clubs after 10 pm, earlier, if you want to hit the edgy ones in centro. Get some action there & if you still have money, energy & leche, head to parque lleras where there will be chicas strolling til very late, 4 am or so. A wonderful, 4 chica day!
Awesome suggestions. I would definitely make use of this suggestions. .
I will be all in Medellin and its only for 4 days so want to maximize my trip in day 3-4 chics etc.
As per your tips I think I lined up few SA girls didn't quite start FB game as it may take too long time.
Will definitely try Loutron in Day time and what / where is Casa? Is this same as Loutron? Sorry newbie and first timer to Medllin.
How safe is it to go to Strip club " Face Dos" Alone offcourse will take uber, but what times are the best to hit them.
Thanks for your tips again.
Of course you want to see that many the first day, but trust us you will run out of steam however if you wanted to maximize your time I would do this.
1. Start hitting up FB and Seeking girls now, get some WhatsApp numbers and build some reporre with girls and let them know the dates you are coming.
2. Take a midday flight so you get into Medellin around 10 pm. Check into an airbnb so you can host easy, hit me I'll give you some places that are easy with girls coming in.
3. Order rappi and stock up on supplies, water, wine, beer, snacks, eggs for the morning etc. You want to be well rested and have all this out of the way.
4. Wake up around 9 or 10, and head over to a casa. If you want top shelf go to Loutron (400 K) for Middle Class go to Fantisa Energy for bottom go new life (I mean win terms of price).
6. It is noon now, go grab lunch, head back to your crib and chill. Start chasing up a girl and see if you can get some girl to come thru around 3 or 4 pm.
7. Bone a FB or Seeking chick, that will usually be a couple hours.
8. Grab dinner, go to a mall etc.
9. Head over to a strip club like Fase Dos or somthing and bone a chick from there.
10. Head to bed and do it all over again!!
Thanks for your feedback on the casas as they will most definitely be on my visit schedule. How did you find the selection in terms of numbers available to choose from and quality compared with New Life, Sexy Amigas and Energy?You can find some hidden gems but I went today around 1 PM and place was packed. Plenty of girls but no 10's IMO. You're better off to go on Sunday where there's less guys.
Centro streets are 30 K to 50 K plus hotel room of 8 k to 20 K.Well, I only saw four Centro Girls. 2 twice and the experiences were chef kiss. If I ever go back I'll be ready with better Spanish and will haggle more. At least I didn't pay over a 100 mill for thirty minutes, brah. Saw posts like that here. SMH.
Exoticspirit
03-02-24, 01:03
4. Wake up around 9 or 10, and head over to a casa. If you want top shelf go to Loutron (400 K) for Middle Class go to Fantisa Energy for bottom go new life (I mean win terms of price).!I assume there's no cover charge at these casas except maybe for Loutron. If I don't like anything I see at New Life or Energy, is there a penalty fee of some type to just walk out without doing a session?
BlueChange
03-02-24, 03:35
Wondering if there are girls available at night near Parque Poblado or if this is more a quiet residential park?
Am buying an apartment for a possible Air BNB on 43 d Street in the Parque of Poblado Building. Need renovation, so it is 40 years old now and needs work. Building is about 12 stories high and says Edificio El Poblado. Anyone familiar with this building? Strata 6 so it should be upper class.You are just ASKING for headaches with that location. You will have soo many problems. What is the asking price on it?
BlueChange
03-02-24, 03:37
Thanks for the itinerary / tips fellas. BlueChange what is the best way to get in touch with you. I have one booked but I can still cancel and I found another that's nice close to Lleras Park but I'd like to hear your recommendations.DM me I can show you which one works best I found.
BlueChange
03-02-24, 03:44
Awesome suggestions. I would definitely make use of this suggestions. .
I will be all in Medellin and its only for 4 days so want to maximize my trip in day 3-4 chics etc.
As per your tips I think I lined up few SA girls didn't quite start FB game as it may take too long time.
Will definitely try Loutron in Day time and what / where is Casa? Is this same as Loutron? Sorry newbie and first timer to Medllin.
How safe is it to go to Strip club " Face Dos" Alone offcourse will take uber, but what times are the best to hit them.
Thanks for your tips again.Just look in google maps for it, there is also a map in another Medellin page that shows ALL the cases locations. Loutron is at the very very top of Poblado up the hill and far away from everything.
Its super safe to go, maybe try La Isla its all secluded and I think a bit higher end. You are cool go to solo I found if anything its more so going alone there one or two English speaking men will approach trying to like hip you to local stuff. Uussaly like some young whipper snapper wanan be rapper from Miami, just stay away they are hustling to get extra money.
I like to go like 8 to strip clubs its before all the talent arrives but it isn't super slammed. I stay away Saturdays though cause its too packed but you can see some awesome lesbo shows on stage like around 12 or 1 and the girls fucking each other with dildo and stuff.
Da Poon Man
03-02-24, 03:56
I'm going to Medellin for the first time at the end of this month. How easy is it to find street girls to give BBBJ? Or any kind. Casas, strip cubs etc?
If I visit Colombia, it'll be as a dark skinned individual with zero spanish skill. This should be obvious that I'm not from the area, but do you think when it comes to Seeking Arrangement, Tinder, and the other online dating sites, I'd be better off lying that I live in and am from Colombia, or admit that I'm American, which may end up quoting in USD and other upcharges?
I'm really curious out of those two personas which would attract a date with "high end" sugar babies, those girls with the noticeable high quality pics, sport cars, volcano backgrounds etc, since technically Americans are "rich".
Other than that, any other tips to attract woman in Colombia from SA profile wise such as writing in English or Spanish in my bio?
You can find some hidden gems but I went today around 1 PM and place was packed. Plenty of girls but no 10's IMO. You're better off to go on Sunday where there's less guys.# 1 if you are expecting to find 10's in a casa you will never be happy, there are no 10's screwing dudes for $20.
#2 if you go on a Sunday you will find the worst of the worst, the good ones take Sunday off, you will find plenty of 4's.
BlueChange
03-02-24, 19:21
I'm going to Medellin for the first time at the end of this month. How easy is it to find street girls to give BBBJ? Or any kind. Casas, strip cubs etc?Pretty damn easy. You.
Got to tip though. Say "oral naturale para propina"? They will ask how much. 50 K is standard 100 k is high end and anything more you don't want cause she is going to constantly be baby whipping your cock every 5 sucks cause she doesn't really want to and the price is high to make peeps say no.
BlueChange
03-02-24, 19:22
If I visit Colombia, it'll be as a dark skinned individual with zero spanish skill. This should be obvious that I'm not from the area, but do you think when it comes to Seeking Arrangement, Tinder, and the other online dating sites, I'd be better off lying that I live in and am from Colombia, or admit that I'm American, which may end up quoting in USD and other upcharges?
I'm really curious out of those two personas which would attract a date with "high end" sugar babies, those girls with the noticeable high quality pics, sport cars, volcano backgrounds etc, since technically Americans are "rich".
Other than that, any other tips to attract woman in Colombia from SA profile wise such as writing in English or Spanish in my bio?Only color that matters is green.
Always talk in Spanish unless they keep with English in respondan.
Always negotiate in pesos. Any chick that asks for dollars straight up will have high mileage.
I can't send DM's on here. Is there another way to get in contact? I am a member on the usasexguide. NL forum as well. Not sure if you are but I can send messages back and forth on there.
DM me I can show you which one works best I found.
# 1 if you are expecting to find 10's in a casa you will never be happy, there are no 10's screwing dudes for $20.
#2 if you go on a Sunday you will find the worst of the worst, the good ones take Sunday off, you will find plenty of 4's.Yeah, New Life is a popular spot but if you want 10 quality you got to go Loutron or something, which I didn't because I just didn't want to shell up mote pesos. I like NL for the ass selection and price. I'm not a picky guy and yesterday I had two girls I wanted to see but I saw my top pick. Regardless, ass is everywhere. Just ask.
I assume there's no cover charge at these casas except maybe for Loutron. If I don't like anything I see at New Life or Energy, is there a penalty fee of some type to just walk out without doing a session?All casa charge you for viewing the lin up. It's normally 5 mil to look or 3 mil if you get a drake like water or Gatorade. If you don't luke what you see then order Gatorade and bounce.
Mr Enternational
03-02-24, 23:16
It's worth mentioning that in Colombian Spanish the word penthouse doesn't mean the same thing it means in English. In Colombia it means an upper floor apartment, not necessarily the top floor and not necessarily even a high floor.It is actually pretty much the same in English. In a hotel that I stay in in Las Vegas the top 4 or 5 floors are labeled PH. When you go to the rooms on those floors they are the exact same as the rooms on every other floor.
The viewing fee is not enforced for regular customers. I am in favor of it because the hordes of weekend warrior lookie lou were starting to interfere with the sacas' business. Some of these guys were going around secretly filming the lineups and putting them on youtube. Some were also charging other guys tour fees to bring them around to casas. It's not a big burden to buy a beer or soft drink.
All casa charge you for viewing the lin up. It's normally 5 mil to look or 3 mil if you get a drake like water or Gatorade. If you don't luke what you see then order Gatorade and bounce.
You are of course right. The thing is some of these guys really can't help themselves. It's a sort of self destructive addiction. The urges overtake critical thinking and reasoning and, well, the rest is history.
This is just plain DUMB DUMB DUMB no matter which country it's in whether in Colombia, somewhere in Asia or even back in our home countries. There are more than enough women of legal age for us to enjoy. Leave the underage alone!
I am trying to decide between two AirBNB's. Both are roughly the same price and offer the same comforts. The only difference is one is about 1/4 of a mile from Lleras Park and restaurants and shops etc but has no AC. The other is about double the distance from Lleras and doesn't seem to have shops or restaurants or much around it but it has AC. For the sake of this question, I hate being hot. Should I go with the closer one and chance the fact it had no AC or go with the other?
If I visit Colombia, it'll be as a dark skinned individual with zero spanish skill. This should be obvious that I'm not from the area, but do you think when it comes to Seeking Arrangement, Tinder, and the other online dating sites, I'd be better off lying that I live in and am from Colombia, or admit that I'm American, which may end up quoting in USD and other upcharges?
I'm really curious out of those two personas which would attract a date with "high end" sugar babies, those girls with the noticeable high quality pics, sport cars, volcano backgrounds etc, since technically Americans are "rich".
Other than that, any other tips to attract woman in Colombia from SA profile wise such as writing in English or Spanish in my bio?Why lie? If you don't speak Spanish, it'd be impossible to convince them you live in or are from Colombia. Even if you did speak Spanish, they'd figure out pretty quickly that you weren't from there.
OTOH, I would tell them you're in town for a while even if you're not. If they think you'll be there a few weeks, they are more likely to give you good service, hoping that you'll repeat.
And never deal in or discuss USD with the girls. If a chica even brings a dollars with me, I generally say goodbye because she's treating me like a fool right off the bat.
RahulMangla2009
03-03-24, 08:47
Hi,
Travelling to Medellin next week and wondering if I can purchase some kind of a mobile hotspot device? I have an iphone with verizon international travelpass, but I don't think the hotspot / tethering works when travelling internationally. Will rather prefer to get a local wifi device or some kind of a pocket mifi device. How can I get one in Medellin at the airport or say in poblado area somewhere?
Context: I will be working as well when travelling for this mini vacation fun. Hence, need a strong wifi and don't want to depend only on the hotel wifi (I will be going to guatape as well, and have heard most hotels don't have decent wifi there). Hence, need a backup wifi device.
BlueChange
03-03-24, 14:21
I am trying to decide between two AirBNB's. Both are roughly the same price and offer the same comforts. The only difference is one is about 1/4 of a mile from Lleras Park and restaurants and shops etc but has no AC. The other is about double the distance from Lleras and doesn't seem to have shops or restaurants or much around it but it has AC. For the sake of this question, I hate being hot. Should I go with the closer one and chance the fact it had no AC or go with the other?Take the one with the AC, you don't want to be that close to LLeras. You are taking taxi's most of the time anyway so what does an extra 5 min in a taxi mean. You ususally do not need AC in Medellin however we are having a particually hot season so it might suit you well.
Why lie? If you don't speak Spanish, it'd be impossible to convince them you live in or are from Colombia. Even if you did speak Spanish, they'd figure out pretty quickly that you weren't from there.
OTOH, I would tell them you're in town for a while even if you're not. If they think you'll be there a few weeks, they are more likely to give you good service, hoping that you'll repeat.
And never deal in or discuss USD with the girls. If a chica even brings a dollars with me, I generally say goodbye because she's treating me like a fool right off the bat.Could've sworn I read Gringos (Americans?) get up charged compared to locals, and this is also why men go out of their way to get a sim card with the local number. Otherwise I don't understand why not just get a backup number from the States and head over.
Or does Gringo include even those white / black foreigners from Europe / All other nationalitys like Asian too.
Specifically referring to Seeking Arrangements advice or other online dating platforms like Colombian cupid, how do you stay in touch if you don't currently have a local phone number through what'sapp (if its important as referenced earlier)? I have a SA premium account, location is USA, and would hit up the girls now even though trip is 3 months away to get a heads start unless I should wait.
Again this was another situation where ID change home location to Medellin but likely on a different account to keep my identity seperate (sort of falsifying age and how rich I appear to catfish, I know bad American culture, but everyone wins since they're getting paid).
I am trying to decide between two AirBNB's. Both are roughly the same price and offer the same comforts. The only difference is one is about 1/4 of a mile from Lleras Park and restaurants and shops etc but has no AC. The other is about double the distance from Lleras and doesn't seem to have shops or restaurants or much around it but it has AC. For the sake of this question, I hate being hot. Should I go with the closer one and chance the fact it had no AC or go with the other?I've never felt the need for AC in Medellíand. Check the weather for your time of visit and you might not either. That city is a lot wetter than it is hot.
Mr Enternational
03-03-24, 16:43
Specifically referring to Seeking Arrangements advice or other online dating platforms like Colombian cupid, how do you stay in touch if you don't currently have a local phone number through what'sapp (if its important as referenced earlier)? I have a SA premium account, location is USA, and would hit up the girls now even though trip is 3 months away to get a heads start unless I should wait.
Again this was another situation where ID change home location to Medellin but likely on a different account to keep my identity seperate (sort of falsifying age and how rich I appear to catfish, I know bad American culture, but everyone wins since they're getting paid).You trying to appear rich is just going to make them expect more money. There is no head start or needing to stay in touch with hookers. Who you contact today may be on the other side of the world in 3 months. 2 or 3 days before is as soon as you need to contact them. Do not waste people's time. You do not need a local phone number. The number I contact hookers through is my US google voice whatsapp.
Could've sworn I read Gringos (Americans?) get up charged compared to locals, and this is also why men go out of their way to get a sim card with the local number. Otherwise I don't understand why not just get a backup number from the States and head over.
Or does Gringo include even those white / black foreigners from Europe / All other nationalitys like Asian too.
Specifically referring to Seeking Arrangements advice or other online dating platforms like Colombian cupid, how do you stay in touch if you don't currently have a local phone number through what'sapp (if its important as referenced earlier)? I have a SA premium account, location is USA, and would hit up the girls now even though trip is 3 months away to get a heads start unless I should wait.
Again this was another situation where ID change home location to Medellin but likely on a different account to keep my identity seperate (sort of falsifying age and how rich I appear to catfish, I know bad American culture, but everyone wins since they're getting paid).Gringo can be any foreigner basically. They don't care much what you look like, but generally if they know you're from somewhere outside you may be asked for more than they would for informed locals. Actually, you will be asked for more. I wouldn't worry about phone numbers, etc. They will know anyway. And if you managed to fool them by using a local number or whatever they would know as soon as you met them, and you will probably need to pay a bit more. Just accept it. Because otherwise you will just have confrontation and trouble. Negotiate, yes, and you will get into a reasonable ballpark, but don't expect to get the price that a local would get on the streets in centro.
I am trying to decide between two AirBNB's. Both are roughly the same price and offer the same comforts. The only difference is one is about 1/4 of a mile from Lleras Park and restaurants and shops etc but has no AC. The other is about double the distance from Lleras and doesn't seem to have shops or restaurants or much around it but it has AC. For the sake of this question, I hate being hot. Should I go with the closer one and chance the fact it had no AC or go with the other?Take the AC. It's true that it doesn't get very hot in Medellin. After all, it's called the City of Eternal Spring. Open the window and circulate the air and you'll be just fine. However, open the window 1/4 mile from Parque Lleras and you'd better be a heavy sleeper because of the noise.
All the feedback you all wrote is helpful. My last SA and online dating question if that's even possible is when you come across a Colombian women writing her profile in English instead of her native language, is that a red flag? I was talking to a profile in Medellíand that was written in English but I decided to use translation to message her, and a few exchanges of we're both beautiful and she wants dinero from arrangement leads to " Podemos tener sexo" from her. Is this too a red flag?
Because of this interaction with a beautiful woman in that low quality zero filter Colombian photograph, I was also contemplating what it would be like to just ship her here to the states for a week and possibly marry her. These women truly are amazing and I'm catching feelings. Now I know how many of our kind get scoped.
Ppartynextdoor
03-03-24, 19:57
Headed to Medellin for the second time solo. First trip was 6/2023.
Anyone in town during that time I'm willing to link up and monger together.
For the first time solo travelers it's not as bad as they say. I will start by saying I'm 6'4 and 230 pounds but that doesn't mean a thing in all reality I'm also black. First trip I hit tons of casas for 3 somes. I banged chicas in El Centro beware of El Centro at night I got caught up out there with the chicas and I didn't realize it became night time. It was impossible to find a Uber or Lyft at that time which was weird because a Uber took me down there around 5 pm. I had to walk and walk and walk til I flagged down a passing cab and yes I was followed leaving el Centro and I knew it I just kept it moving that is food for thought. I want to visit strip clubs in El Centro at night but from my experience it's not good to hang around out there solo. I stayed in the thick of parque lerras last time, my first night I got stuck in el Centro after dark, I wasn't scared but I was aware I was being targeted and got the fuck out of there. By the second and third night I figured it out. Wake up eat hit el centro, hit casas for threesomes then regroup at home base use the site for chicas then hit el poblado if you still have more steam. I had 16 chicas in 4 days in Medellin. Also I went to chicas "apts" at night without any issues at all alot of them stayed in laureles which is why I choose to book an Airbnb in laureles this time. I blew 1 million pesos in El poblado in 1 night two threesomes and 1 chica back to back to back LOL. Also I did this all off of Google translate. Tap in if your in town next weekend I want to hit fase dos and what not. Also I didn't buy drinks while moving around I put tequila in a water bottle and didn't drink anything from any bar the entire trip besides water or Gatorade. I also brought 2 girls twice back to my air BNB and I was not robbed and I brought 1 girl another night and another night. The key to not getting drugged with bringing girls back is this. A soon as the door closes within 1 minutes pull it out and get too it, don't drink with these girls in your hotel don't dance don't small talk fuck them and send them packing.
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Could've sworn I read Gringos (Americans?) get up charged compared to locals, and this is also why men go out of their way to get a sim card with the local number. Otherwise I don't understand why not just get a backup number from the States and head over.
Or does Gringo include even those white / black foreigners from Europe / All other nationalitys like Asian too.
Specifically referring to Seeking Arrangements advice or other online dating platforms like Colombian cupid, how do you stay in touch if you don't currently have a local phone number through what'sapp (if its important as referenced earlier)? I have a SA premium account, location is USA, and would hit up the girls now even though trip is 3 months away to get a heads start unless I should wait.
Again this was another situation where ID change home location to Medellin but likely on a different account to keep my identity seperate (sort of falsifying age and how rich I appear to catfish, I know bad American culture, but everyone wins since they're getting paid).By the second sentence of any message, any Colombian knows you're not a Colombian. Having a local number or listing your home as Medellin isn't going to make everyone ignore that you don't talk like a local. While they may not know the difference between Alabama and Arizona they know you're not a paisa.
Add to that, you're already paying $100+ monthly on SA, double that if you add a new account. Saving $15 doesn't really seem like a priority.
Guys go out of their way to get a local sim card because it's cheaper unless you have TMobile.
Just be the real you. If the girl thinks you're younger, more attractive and wealthier it's going to change the way she responds when she meets you. If she's expecting Brad Pitt and she gets Ernest Borgnine, she'll be less willing to put forth her best efforts. However, if she knows up front she's meeting some old gringo, she won't be disappointed.
I am trying to decide between two AirBNB's. Both are roughly the same price and offer the same comforts. The only difference is one is about 1/4 of a mile from Lleras Park and restaurants and shops etc but has no AC. The other is about double the distance from Lleras and doesn't seem to have shops or restaurants or much around it but it has AC. For the sake of this question, I hate being hot. Should I go with the closer one and chance the fact it had no AC or go with the other?Temperature at night drops down to low 60's. Sunset is about 6 pm. Except for a few hours in the afternoon, on a really hot day, I've rarely felt the need for anything more than a fan. There's usually a decent late afternoon breeze keeping it tolerable. Humidity usually isn't bad, unless you're from a high desert area.
However, some guys can't handle being without air conditioning.
All the feedback you all wrote is helpful. My last SA and online dating question if that's even possible is when you come across a Colombian women writing her profile in English instead of her native language, is that a red flag? I was talking to a profile in Medelland that was written in English but I decided to use translation to message her, and a few exchanges of we're both beautiful and she wants dinero from arrangement leads to " Podemos tener sexo" from her. Is this too a red flag?
Because of this interaction with a beautiful woman in that low quality zero filter Colombian photograph, I was also contemplating what it would be like to just ship her here to the states for a week and possibly marry her. These women truly are amazing and I'm catching feelings. Now I know how many of our kind get scoped.A profile in English is a huge red flag. Her telling you that you can have sex is another red flag.
You can't just ship most of them to the states. A visa is required. Bringing one, if you find one with a visa, will almost certainly be more expensive than going to Colombia and doing the 3 F (find'them, fuck'them and forget'them). However, it's also a lot of fun introducing them to new things. Flannel pajamas, bread and butter pickles, Waffle House, going to the ballpark for a baseball game, Disney World, ice skating, or just sitting in a semi-rural area and watching the ducks and squirrels will put a smile on their face. Of course, there's always a risk that you'll come home to find she bought 6 jars of peanut butter, or finished off the half gallon of gourmet ice cream.
I haven't seen any advantage to actually marrying one.
Headed to Medellin for the second time solo. First trip was 6/2023.
Anyone in town during that time I'm willing to link up and monger together.
For the first time solo travelers it's not as bad as they say. I will start by saying I'm 6'4 and 230 pounds but that doesn't mean a thing in all reality I'm also black. First trip I hit tons of casas for 3 somes. I banged chicas in El Centro beware of El Centro at night I got caught up out there with the chicas and I didn't realize it became night time. It was impossible to find a Uber or Lyft at that time which was weird because a Uber took me down there around 5 pm. I had to walk and walk and walk til I flagged down a passing cab and yes I was followed leaving el Centro and I knew it I just kept it moving that is food for thought. I want to visit strip clubs in El Centro at night but from my experience it's not good to hang around out there solo. I stayed in the thick of parque lerras last time, my first night I got stuck in el Centro after dark, I wasn't scared but I was aware I was being targeted and got the fuck out of there. By the second and third night I figured it out. Wake up eat hit el centro, hit casas for threesomes then regroup at home base use the site for chicas then hit el poblado if you still have more steam. I had 16 chicas in 4 days in Medellin. Also I went to chicas "apts" at night without any issues at all alot of them stayed in laureles which is why I choose to book an Airbnb in laureles this time. I blew 1 million pesos in El poblado in 1 night two threesomes and 1 chica back to back to back LOL. Also I did this all off of Google translate. Tap in if your in town next weekend I want to hit fase dos and what not. Also I didn't buy drinks while moving around I put tequila in a water bottle and didn't drink anything from any bar the entire trip besides water or Gatorade. I also brought 2 girls twice back to my air BNB and I was not robbed and I brought 1 girl another night and another night. The key to not getting drugged with bringing girls back is this. A soon as the door closes within 1 minutes pull it out and get too it, don't drink with these girls in your hotel don't dance don't small talk fuck them and send them packing.Good share. What did you do to attract attention and also gave it away that you were being targeted by men or women? I'm half your size and will solo travel in a few months, so in the event I realize I'm being followed need to have an escape plan. Did you pick up any parque lerras women and bring them back to your place or trust them into a short stay hotel? Lastly any BBFS?
Already 4 Americans locked up in the past year for abusing minors in Medellin. Got to be dumb to try that, especially with all the available talent.Beware of women who are big in size and look over 18 but may in fact be minors.
Beware of women who are big in size and look over 18 but may in fact be minors.It is worth noting that the converse of this can also be true, especially with some Venezuelan women they may be 19 20 or even 21 years old but look small and scrawny to where you would think they may look like they are minors especially by US standards.
That is why it always best to ask to see cedula and then to use a hotel that will also verify the cedula as to its authenticity.
BellBurner
03-04-24, 14:48
Hey all,
I'm fresh off my visit from Medellin and I'm in horny jail. However, is anyone in contact with any of the girls from la isla?
Thanks.
By the second sentence of any message, any Colombian knows you're not a Colombian. Having a local number or listing your home as Medellin isn't going to make everyone ignore that you don't talk [Deleted by Admin] I've had my +57 number since 2021 now and while messaging thru WhatsApp they cannot tell that I am not Colombian. When meeting in person I'm pretty sure I can get past the second sentence without them asking where I'm from. Opening sentences using phrases such "Hola Mami" "que mas pues" and "como me LE va".
Usually at some point they will ask me where I'm from but it's not the 2nd sentence out of my mouth. And I always reply "Soy Mexicano" I never say I'm a gringo.
Exoticspirit
03-04-24, 18:31
There's an airport bus service from / to the Medellin airport called Combuses and one of their stops is near the San Diego Mall. Anybody here ever use this and is the San Diego Mall area safe enough to wait for and get dropped off by an Uber?
There's an airport bus service from / to the Medellin airport called Combuses and one of their stops is near the San Diego Mall. Anybody here ever use this and is the San Diego Mall area safe enough to wait for and get dropped off by an Uber?That's the only transport I use to and from the airport. It used to be 14 k now it's 15,500 cop but still the best option. You can get dropped off and picked up at the metro station exposiciones now too and pay with either your civica card or cash. Even if you have a maleta they will put it in the back for you and it's a very comfortable bus ride.
BellBurner
03-04-24, 19:10
There's an airport bus service from / to the Medellin airport called Combuses and one of their stops is near the San Diego Mall. Anybody here ever use this and is the San Diego Mall area safe enough to wait for and get dropped off by an Uber?Hi, I've been to that mall and you will be fine to wait to be picked up. The downtown area is considered unsafe depending on where you're walking towards. I would just wait in the mall until you know that your ride is there to pick you up.
It's fine, and don't be put off by the people who want to help you with your luggage into a taxi. A small tip is all they expect.
There's an airport bus service from / to the Medellin airport called Combuses and one of their stops is near the San Diego Mall. Anybody here ever use this and is the San Diego Mall area safe enough to wait for and get dropped off by an Uber?
Mechanic88
03-04-24, 19:46
There's an airport bus service from / to the Medellin airport called Combuses and one of their stops is near the San Diego Mall. Anybody here ever use this and is the San Diego Mall area safe enough to wait for and get dropped off by an Uber?I use it all the time. They drop you off at a taxi station. From there I just take a taxi to where ever I'm going.
Nil Admirari
03-04-24, 21:00
I use it all the time. They drop you off at a taxi station. From there I just take a taxi to where ever I'm going.Another to / from the airport transport option (in between a taxi and a bus in terms of price, comfort and waiting times) is to take a "colectivo": in effect, a shared white taxi. They also pick-up and drop-off passengers by the San Diego Mall. If I'm not mistaken the 2024 price is 25,000 mil to the airport and 30,000 from.
The last time I used the service from the airport into the city, the driver agreed to take me to my apartment in Laureles from San Diego for an additional 15,000. But yellow cabs and the metro are both nearby.
Exoticspirit
03-04-24, 21:34
Another to / from the airport transport option (in between a taxi and a bus in terms of price, comfort and waiting times) is to take a "colectivo": in effect, a shared white taxi. They also pick-up and drop-off passengers by the San Diego Mall. If I'm not mistaken the 2024 price is 25,000 mil to the airport and 30,000 from.
The last time I used the service from the airport into the city, the driver agreed to take me to my apartment in Laureles from San Diego for an additional 15,000. But yellow cabs and the metro are both nearby.I did see the colectivo option and since I would not be in any hurry, it is an option. The only thing I was worried about with these shared rides is that I also noticed that the vehicles were not that big and I would have a large backpack plus a carry on luggage which is not an issue with the buses. So maybe if I was first in line for an empty colectivo, it might be workable.
What is a good guest friend hotel near medellin sports bar?
Another to / from the airport transport option (in between a taxi and a bus in terms of price, comfort and waiting times) is to take a "colectivo": in effect, a shared white taxi. They also pick-up and drop-off passengers by the San Diego Mall. If I'm not mistaken the 2024 price is 25,000 mil to the airport and 30,000 from.
The last time I used the service from the airport into the city, the driver agreed to take me to my apartment in Laureles from San Diego for an additional 15,000. But yellow cabs and the metro are both nearby.Yes, I have taken the collective twice. 6 people packed into a compact car. And some of them have showered! LOL. If money is sparce you should plan your airfare months in advance and go Spirit so you cannot let your seat recline back, saving a few bucks.
Ppartynextdoor
03-05-24, 00:24
Good share. What did you do to attract attention and also gave it away that you were being targeted by men or women? I'm half your size and will solo travel in a few months, so in the event I realize I'm being followed need to have an escape plan. Did you pick up any parque lerras women and bring them back to your place or trust them into a short stay hotel? Lastly any BBFS?In retrospect, I think I was a little too excited meaning, I hit like 3 chicas on the same stretch. So they assumed I had money and I didn't haggle. The escape plan was for me to speed walk and keep bending corners. I'm from an urban environment in the states so this is nothing new to me. I noticed I was being followed because a pack of 3 guys were outside the little hotel that I noticed from plaza botero about 30 minutes before and when I walked off they slowly started to walk behind me. I turned a corner to get off the strip and I took a quick glance behind me and boom there they were, I made it to the next corner basically almost going in a circle if I made another left turn and boom there they were but I noticed they were speeding up. I have really long legs so it's very easy for me to speed walk fast without looking crazy. That's when I made a right turn and threw my legs into overdrive LOL and made it to the next corner asoon as they were turning into the block. I jogged the next block and kept making turns until I saw a cab driver I literally walked in front of his cab and he let me in. It became a totally different element at night young Spanish guys were play fighting in the street and all kinds of shit. I would recommend not going to el Centro at night solo in a nutshell. But to answer your question I think they saw I was banging multiple chicas and I wouldn't even haggle, just show them my phone they would type the price and I would say ok. Highest I got quoted was 75 by the way and no lower then 60. I recommend el poblado at night you can hang out there til 3 am and there are tons of expats and gringos you will bump into. And a lot of police at el poblado so it creates the illusion of safety.
All the feedback you all wrote is helpful. My last SA and online dating question if that's even possible is when you come across a Colombian women writing her profile in English instead of her native language, is that a red flag? I was talking to a profile in Medelland that was written in English but I decided to use translation to message her, and a few exchanges of we're both beautiful and she wants dinero from arrangement leads to " Podemos tener sexo" from her. Is this too a red flag?
Because of this interaction with a beautiful woman in that low quality zero filter Colombian photograph, I was also contemplating what it would be like to just ship her here to the states for a week and possibly marry her. These women truly are amazing and I'm catching feelings. Now I know how many of our kind get scoped.Simp alert! Pull over! Pull over! Have you been drinking sir? No, I just want to marry a prostitute and bring her to America. She loves me, even tho she has sex with men for money. I can forget her past. She tells me I'm handsome and she says she loves me. I believe her.
There's an airport bus service from / to the Medellin airport called Combuses and one of their stops is near the San Diego Mall. Anybody here ever use this and is the San Diego Mall area safe enough to wait for and get dropped off by an Uber?I use the buses to and from the airport almost every trip, usually five trips a year. The drop off area has always been safe, any time of day and night. I always get a taxi from the drop off spot. The cost to Laureles is very little more than an Uber. Going to the airport, it's best to get on the bus where they start from, Calle 36 #45-14. The fare is 15,500 each direction.
There's an airport bus service from / to the Medellin airport called Combuses and one of their stops is near the San Diego Mall. Anybody here ever use this and is the San Diego Mall area safe enough to wait for and get dropped off by an Uber?There is a bus that drops you at San Diego Mall and then you can take an Uber from there to wherever. Not sure if you have to have pesos to ride the bus, if you don't have a fare card. The cost of an Uber from San Diego Mall will vary depending on the time of day. Uber prices can double during Rush Hour.
There are also shared cabs to San Diego that cost 25,000 or about $6. 50 USD and then you can take an Uber from there to wherever as well.
Decision might come down to how much time you want to spend traveling with your luggage and the cost difference. I think the airport cabs are around 110,000 or about $28 USD and they drop you off at your door.
Exoticspirit
03-05-24, 03:10
There is a bus that drops you at San Diego Mall and then you can take an Uber from there to wherever. Not sure if you have to have pesos to ride the bus, if you don't have a fare card. The cost of an Uber from San Diego Mall will vary depending on the time of day. Uber prices can double during Rush Hour.
There are also shared cabs to San Diego that cost 25,000 or about $6. 50 USD and then you can take an Uber from there to wherever as well.
Decision might come down to how much time you want to spend traveling with your luggage and the cost difference. I think the airport cabs are around 110,000 or about $28 USD and they drop you off at your door.After the shared cabs drop off most of the passengers at San Diego, will they normally be willing to go to your final destination for an extra charge?
For my trip later this spring, I'll actually be arriving at San Diego probably around 6 pm. If Ubers are double the cost during this time, maybe the taxis might end up being cheaper (going to Poblado).
After the shared cabs drop off most of the passengers at San Diego, will they normally be willing to go to your final destination for an extra charge?
For my trip later this spring, I'll actually be arriving at San Diego probably around 6 pm. If Ubers are double the cost during this time, maybe the taxis might end up being cheaper (going to Poblado).Good question about the shared cab. I'm sure it could be worked out.
As far as 6 pm, the congestion can also be really bad, depending on the direction of travel.
In general, I would try to avoid rush hour travel, if possible. Ubers will get you there but Medellin does have bad congestion at times. The train can be ridiculous depending on the station during rush hour.
Keep in mind, since this is Medellin, double the price could be $3. 50 to $7. 00. For us that live here it's noticeable but for most tourists it's noting. When a person wants to get back to El Poblado, time is often more important than the additional cost. San Diego has restaurants, Starbucks and other amenities if you wanted to kill some time.
After getting off that plane, I'm usually tired and I just want to get to the hotel as quickly as possible. I have luggage and a backpack so that's also something to consider. I just take the white cab and it takes me directly to my hotel for 110 mil. None of this waiting around for the minibus to leave, getting off at San Diego, getting into another cab to get to your hotel. It depends on what is your time worth. Is $10 or even $15 worth it to you for the extra hassle?
There is a bus that drops you at San Diego Mall and then you can take an Uber from there to wherever. Not sure if you have to have pesos to ride the bus, if you don't have a fare card. The cost of an Uber from San Diego Mall will vary depending on the time of day. Uber prices can double during Rush Hour.
There are also shared cabs to San Diego that cost 25,000 or about $6. 50 USD and then you can take an Uber from there to wherever as well.
Decision might come down to how much time you want to spend traveling with your luggage and the cost difference. I think the airport cabs are around 110,000 or about $28 USD and they drop you off at your door.I'm not understanding what the issue is with cab to taxi fare. I have a driver who picks me up at the airport and drops me off at Laureles for 110 cop. I am sure El Poblado would be less but in any event that's not a lot of money. There are buses but why would you do that to save $5 ? It doesn't make any sense.
If you can afford to fly to Colombia and have a place to stay the least of money you will spend is on Uber. It's cheap as hell to move around in Uber -Medellin- Colombia.
After the shared cabs drop off most of the passengers at San Diego, will they normally be willing to go to your final destination for an extra charge?
For my trip later this spring, I'll actually be arriving at San Diego probably around 6 pm. If Ubers are double the cost during this time, maybe the taxis might end up being cheaper (going to Poblado).The man with 501 questions.
Headed to Medellin for the second time solo. First trip was 6/2023.
Anyone in town during that time I'm willing to link up and monger together.
For the first time solo travelers it's not as bad as they say. I will start by saying I'm 6'4 and 230 pounds but that doesn't mean a thing in all reality I'm also black. First trip I hit tons of casas for 3 somes. I banged chicas in El Centro beware of El Centro at night I got caught up out there with the chicas and I didn't realize it became night time. It was impossible to find a Uber or Lyft at that time which was weird because a Uber took me down there around 5 pm. I had to walk and walk and walk til I flagged down a passing cab and yes I was followed leaving el Centro and I knew it I just kept it moving that is food for thought. I want to visit strip clubs in El Centro at night but from my experience it's not good to hang around out there solo. I stayed in the thick of parque lerras last time, my first night I got stuck in el Centro after dark, I wasn't scared but I was aware I was being targeted and got the fuck out of there. By the second and third night I figured it out. Wake up eat hit el centro, hit casas for threesomes then regroup at home base use the site for chicas then hit el poblado if you still have more steam. I had 16 chicas in 4 days in Medellin. Also I went to chicas "apts" at night without any issues at all alot of them stayed in laureles which is why I choose to book an Airbnb in laureles this time. I blew 1 million pesos in El poblado in 1 night two threesomes and 1 chica back to back to back LOL. Also I did this all off of Google translate. Tap in if your in town next weekend I want to hit fase dos and what not. Also I didn't buy drinks while moving around I put tequila in a water bottle and didn't drink anything from any bar the entire trip besides water or Gatorade. I also brought 2 girls twice back to my air BNB and I was not robbed and I brought 1 girl another night and another night. The key to not getting drugged with bringing girls back is this. A soon as the door closes within 1 minutes pull it out and get too it, don't drink with these girls in your hotel don't dance don't small talk fuck them and send them packing.I'll be there with my brother. Let's have a drink and hit some casas. Which ones do you recommend I've only been to new life in centro.
I've had my +57 number since 2021 now and while messaging thru WhatsApp they cannot tell that I am not Colombian. When meeting in person I'm pretty sure I can get past the second sentence without them asking where I'm from. Opening sentences using phrases such "Hola Mami" "que mas pues" and "como me LE va".
Usually at some point they will ask me where I'm from but it's not the 2nd sentence out of my mouth. And I always reply "Soy Mexicano" I never say I'm a gringo.You understand there is a difference in local communication skills between someone who has been spending much of their time in Medellin for some years and someone who has never been to Colombia and probably can't handle more than a few sentences in Spanish?
Your +57 number has next to nothing to do with their acceptance of you. It's your Spanish proficiency combined with your knowledge of the local lingo.
I'm not understanding what the issue is with cab to taxi fare. I have a driver who picks me up at the airport and drops me off at Laureles for 110 cop. I am sure El Poblado would be less but in any event that's not a lot of money. There are buses but why would you do that to save $5 ? It doesn't make any sense.
If you can afford to fly to Colombia and have a place to stay the least of money you will spend is on Uber. It's cheap as hell to move around in Uber -Medellin- Colombia.I'm not saying this is something I would do. The guy asked about the bus. As you saw, I said he could take a cab from the airport and it would drop him off right at his door for around $25 USD. Someone also mentioned he could take an Uber from the airport to El Poblado. I think the guy is just trying to assess all the options since he's never been here before.
Guy asked about the Metro as well. Personally, I don't use the Metro because cabs are only $2-$3 USD on average for me and much more convenient, but to each his own. There are times when the Metro makes sense like connecting to the cable car to Parque Arvi or something like that.
I agree with your assessment. I'd rather pay a bit more, especially if I'm on vacation and my time is limited and I have luggage. While someone is taking different modes to save a few bucks, I would have already dropped my bags off and been drinking a cold beer or doing something else relaxing.
I've used the metro in Europe, but the train usually stops right at the airport and drops me 5 min from my airbnb / hotel and the cost difference is much greater. For example, a cab in London might be $60-$70 USD while the train ride is $10 and the train will get me to my hotel in 30 min. One has to decide when the juice is worth the squeeze. In Colombia, I'm using cabs because they are so inexpensive.
After the shared cabs drop off most of the passengers at San Diego, will they normally be willing to go to your final destination for an extra charge?
For my trip later this spring, I'll actually be arriving at San Diego probably around 6 pm. If Ubers are double the cost during this time, maybe the taxis might end up being cheaper (going to Poblado).Just take the bus. It probably will be more comfortable too. It has a new stop right at the metro station that I have not tried. If you travel light, you could just take metro to your place or switch to Taxi when needed.
Daytime Centro is fine. Night time is OK too, but it can be scary if you don't know the place. Fear will cause problem. Uber might not come to pick you up so you have to wait more. This is your first time, so the arrival time may impact your choice for your safety concern and that mainly because of the unknow. When you are dropped off at the bus stop, you probably don't even need to lift a finger to carry your luggage, there are people there will get you a taxi and bring your luggage to the taxi. But you need to have some changes like 2 mil to give to the people who help you.
... It doesn't make any sense. ...I will give you a simple one. The flight between Rio and Sao Paulo can be between 500 USD and 100 USD or possibly cheaper. The bus is less than 50 USD. Many will take the bus because the flight is more expensive at the time they want to travel. If you have taken the bus before, then you will be in control more because you already gained the experience on your term, instead of being forced to. Once people did it, and some may like it because of various reasons, they will decide to keep on doing it. Have you ever tried it before you ask the question? Because that may be where the answer is.
Simp alert! Pull over! Pull over! Have you been drinking sir? No, I just want to marry a prostitute and bring her to America. She loves me, even tho she has sex with men for money. I can forget her past. She tells me I'm handsome and she says she loves me. I believe her.I think her jugs, not breasts, may be naturales. Based on those stats alone, I'd retire from the hobby and earn a high paying job at Mcdonalds in the US and have her raise my nepo babies locally.
Back to SA, as far as scams go, are there specific and safe restaurants or places to take these women on the Meet / Greet date, and is it protocol to only send her way the Uber / Taxi itself if necessary, rather than me ever sending her money online to get the ride herself?
Also based on your experiences, what have been the minimum and maximum COP to offer the SA girls? If I wanted a few hours or overnight, or she happens to be extremely attractive etc. It's around 3-500 USD Minimum in the USA on SA unfortunately for a few hours or even less time. Thinking I'd always negotiate online beforehand rather than waiting until meeting in person to discuss payments. But I do like to at least mention upfront I'd give them X amount to reel them in and see what they're looking for.
The mall closes at night. Buses are 24/7. The safe option is to wait at the covered bus stop where you are dropped off. Ubers will pick you up from there.
Hi, I've been to that mall and you will be fine to wait to be picked up. The downtown area is considered unsafe depending on where you're walking towards. I would just wait in the mall until you know that your ride is there to pick you up.
Manizales911
03-05-24, 16:29
After getting off that plane, I'm usually tired and I just want to get to the hotel as quickly as possible. I have luggage and a backpack so that's also something to consider. I just take the white cab and it takes me directly to my hotel for 110 mil. None of this waiting around for the minibus to leave, getting off at San Diego, getting into another cab to get to your hotel. It depends on what is your time worth. Is $10 or even $15 worth it to you for the extra hassle?I take taxis over buses almost everywhere. When I land in Pereira I can either take a 5 dollar jam packed bus ride or a 60 dollar taxi to Manizales, I haven't taken that bus in close to ten years, fuck that. But to each their own.
Elvis 2008
03-05-24, 19:32
I think her jugs, not breasts, may be naturales. Based on those stats alone, I'd retire from the hobby and earn a high paying job at Mcdonalds in the US and have her raise my nepo babies locally.It that gal is what you want, it is a dime a dozen in Colombia.
Back to SA, as far as scams go, are there specific and safe restaurants or places to take these women on the Meet / Greet date, and is it protocol to only send her way the Uber / Taxi itself if necessary, rather than me ever sending her money online to get the ride herself?Just meet them in the hotel bar or restaurant if you are hungry. That way you are safe and you can bang them right then. You do not need to wait until the 2nd date in Colombia. The first time I was there I met SA girls in GHL hotel in Poblado. A lot of times I snuck them up without doing a guest fee.
Also based on your experiences, what have been the minimum and maximum COP to offer the SA girls? If I wanted a few hours or overnight, or she happens to be extremely attractive etc. It's around 3-500 USD Minimum in the USA on SA unfortunately for a few hours or even less time. Thinking I'd always negotiate online beforehand rather than waiting until meeting in person to discuss payments. But I do like to at least mention upfront I'd give them X amount to reel them in and see what they're looking for.It may have changed since I have not used it for three years but if you are mentioning money up front, the woman is more likely a hooker than a girl looking to meet a sugar daddy or interested in something long term. Unlike the USA, a lot of Colombian women will not even mention price. If they do not bring it up, you should not either. I think I took 10 women to bed from SA in Colombia without mentioning price. With most of them, I gave them money later usually $80 or $100 which was close to higher end escort rates in Colombia. Yeah, you can get it cheaper for street walkers.
Don't even bother trying to form a long term relationship with a woman who is not a white collar worker or studying to be one. Keep those girls on a P4 P leash.
One huge difference between the USA and Colombia is how men can behave. In the USA, we have women crying rape after consenting to sex and feeling badly about it later. In Colombia, the laws are similar, but they are not enforced. Every woman I got serious with in Colombia had a half brother or sister because their fathers were fucking other woman. 86% of all births in Colombia are to single mothers, and most get little or nothing from their fathers. So that is the character of the typical Colombian man. "Oh, you are pregnant. I am out of here. ".
And a lot of the SA women will ghost you once you get here, so I would not be messing around with SA until one week before you arrive.
Most of the guys here say SA is a waste of $100 per month, and it is unless you are wanting something long term. For me, it was the easiest way to meet white collar women. There are a lot better options though if you are just looking to get laid.
I probably would take the bus if I were visiting for vacation. The extra 15 to 45 minutes you can save by using a taxi would be more of a consideration.
Just take the bus. It probably will be more comfortable too. It has a new stop right at the metro station that I have not tried. If you travel light, you could just take metro to your place or switch to Taxi when needed.
Daytime Centro is fine. Night time is OK too, but it can be scary if you don't know the place. Fear will cause problem. Uber might not come to pick you up so you have to wait more. This is your first time, so the arrival time may impact your choice for your safety concern and that mainly because of the unknow. When you are dropped off at the bus stop, you probably don't even need to lift a finger to carry your luggage, there are people there will get you a taxi and bring your luggage to the taxi. But you need to have some changes like 2 mil to give to the people who help you.
I take taxis over buses almost everywhere. When I land in Pereira I can either take a 5 dollar jam packed bus ride or a 60 dollar taxi to Manizales, I haven't taken that bus in close to ten years, fuck that. But to each their own.You prefer Manizales over Pereira?
After getting off that plane, I'm usually tired and I just want to get to the hotel as quickly as possible. I have luggage and a backpack so that's also something to consider. I just take the white cab and it takes me directly to my hotel for 110 mil. None of this waiting around for the minibus to leave, getting off at San Diego, getting into another cab to get to your hotel. It depends on what is your time worth. Is $10 or even $15 worth it to you for the extra hassle?The reason to take taxi is straightforward. The reason to take the bus can be more complex. Last year I found out at 1 AM my 5 AM flight was canceled because checkmig can't find my flight. I immediately bought another flight later that day and arrived at San Diego mall after midnight. I walked to the BBQ street stand by the stop and order a plate of BBQ there before getting a Uber.
Two Mexicans were scoped in a club in Provenza.
https://youtu.be/myFNV1tOsqQ?si=6xP423SWYAyc2-uK
Follow Along.
I don't click youtube links. Is one of them the Mexican discovered disoriented and laid out in Bello this week?
Two Mexicans were scoped in a club in Provenza.
https://youtu.be/myFNV1tOsqQ?si=6xP423SWYAyc2-uK
Follow Along.
That is definitely a lot of posts about taking public transportation from the airport to save money. If you want to save money you should go all the way. See girls at the casas or El Centro streets only. Stay at a hostel since you won't be bringing girls back. Eat at small local places only.
But if you really want to save money, stay home, watch porn and masturbate. You can save hundreds if not thousands of dollars that way.
It's getting too dangerous over there no matter how careful you are. Not worth the risk IMO.
Two Mexicans were scoped in a club in Provenza.
https://youtu.be/myFNV1tOsqQ?si=6xP423SWYAyc2-uK
Follow Along.
Two Mexicans were scoped in a club in Provenza.Just don't hang out with Mexicans.
All the feedback you all wrote is helpful. My last SA and online dating question if that's even possible is when you come across a Colombian women writing her profile in English instead of her native language, is that a red flag? I was talking to a profile in Medelland that was written in English but I decided to use translation to message her, and a few exchanges of we're both beautiful and she wants dinero from arrangement leads to " Podemos tener sexo" from her. Is this too a red flag?
Because of this interaction with a beautiful woman in that low quality zero filter Colombian photograph, I was also contemplating what it would be like to just ship her here to the states for a week and possibly marry her. These women truly are amazing and I'm catching feelings. Now I know how many of our kind get scoped.You don't even speak her language and you're going to marry her? You think she'd be happy being away from her friends and family living with a stranger? After a few months in the states, she'll ditch you for a younger guy (generally after she's gotten whatever she can out of you). Literally the most self-abusive thing you can do with these girls is bring them back home with you.
75 year old US citizen found dead in his hotel room in Medellin after 15 days.
https://youtu.be/0sqzcJgBnWE?si=uTPuD7_ig3VbU0kY
Follow along.
You do have to be careful. There is no way I am moving away from Colombia.
It's getting too dangerous over there no matter how careful you are. Not worth the risk IMO.
I don't click youtube links. Is one of them the Mexican discovered disoriented and laid out in Bello this week?Yea it was, him and another one both Mexican nationals both scoped. Apparently they had been at a club in Provenza where it happened (they had wristbands from the club). Then the dude woke up in the street somewhere in Bello missing his belongings.
That is definitely a lot of posts about taking public transportation from the airport to save money. If you want to save money you should go all the way. See girls at the casas or El Centro streets only. Stay at a hostel since you won't be bringing girls back. Eat at small local places only.
But if you really want to save money, stay home, watch porn and masturbate. You can save hundreds if not thousands of dollars that way.I think the whole point is about making the money stretch further so he can stay in Colombia for a longer period of time.
It cost 110 mil for a white cab. That is the equivalent of $26 US dollars. After traveling so far to arrive at the promised land why worry about a few dollars?
A white cab is fast and efficient and they will drive you to your door. If saving 10 dollars is that important then maybe you are better staying home.
I agree with you MoonShot.
That is definitely a lot of posts about taking public transportation from the airport to save money. If you want to save money you should go all the way. See girls at the casas or El Centro streets only. Stay at a hostel since you won't be bringing girls back. Eat at small local places only.
But if you really want to save money, stay home, watch porn and masturbate. You can save hundreds if not thousands of dollars that way.
I have a very reliable, trustworthy driver who I have used for airport pickup and dropoff on all of my 3 recent trips. He will also do tours and general rides around the city but because Uber is so dirt cheap I only hire him for airport transfers. English fluent, he lived in Miami for years, always takes me to exchange money away from the airport close to my airbnbs in Laureles. Much better rate, don't ever exchange money at the airport. 120 mil but I usually give him 140 mil for the convenience and helpfulness. He can help with entertainment options like women or extra curricular activities if you need. Message me for his number if you like. I don't get any cut haha just trying to help a good guy. Always reliable, understands and waits if immigration is taking a long time.
AmorPorFavor
03-07-24, 05:22
It cost 110 mil for a white cab. That is the equivalent of $26 US dollars. After traveling so far to arrive at the promised land why worry about a few dollars?
A white cab is fast and efficient and they will drive you to your door. If saving 10 dollars is that important then maybe you are better staying home.
I agree with you MoonShot.Unreal that some mongers are so cheap that they would go through all the hassle of a bus and then a taxi with luggage to save $10 after traveling so far. No wonder gringos get a bad rap in MDE. I'm sure the chicas just hate dealing with these cheap Charlies. Just splurge a little and spend the $26 and start your vacation.
I probably would take the bus if I were visiting for vacation. The extra 15 to 45 minutes you can save by using a taxi would be more of a consideration.I think what you are saying is that it is situational. I was in another city last month and the bus from the airport was 2 hours. I arrived at 8 AM and took Uber to a cafe to wait until 11:30 AM check in time. If I were in Medellin, I would just take the bus. I am not in a rush to go to a cafe or some place to wait. There are so many people taking bus, now all these people are being classified as cheap. Does that even make sense?
It's better for people just to provide information and let the person make the informed decision, instead of making decision for other people that one knows nothing about and proceed to start a debate.
Mr Enternational
03-07-24, 06:49
Unreal that some mongers are so cheap that they would go through all the hassle of a bus and then a taxi with luggage to save $10 after traveling so far. No wonder gringos get a bad rap in MDE. I'm sure the chicas just hate dealing with these cheap Charlies. Just splurge a little and spend the $26 and start your vacation.Thing about it is that the people that have done it know that it is no hassle. And it saves more than $10. Actually saves about $50 round trip.
I have a very reliable, trustworthy driver who I have used for airport pickup and dropoff on all of my 3 recent trips. 120 mil but I usually give him 140 mil for the convenience and helpfulness. The rides from the airport to where I stay in both Barranquilla and Cali are roughly the same distance as the distance from the Rio Negro airport to either Laureles or downtown and it costs me 20,000 pesos for Indriver. In Medellin it probably takes me 5 minutes more on the bus than it does in a taxi and apparently from this report costs more than 100,000 pesos less.
JohnnieCash
03-07-24, 06:52
No wonder gringos get a bad rap in MDE.AFAIK the 'bad rep' gringos are getting is for the opposite -- overspending and gentrification.
I'm sure the chicas just hate dealing with these cheap Charlies.They do like to squeeze their 'bobos', that's for sure (and who doesn't like clueless customer paying premium for nothing). Of course nobody respects an idiot / push-over so great treatment shouldn't be expected.
As for bus vs taxi, so many pointless comments, bus cost X, taxi Z, the OP can make his own decision, everybody knows taxi is the most convenient, I don't get why some posters feel obliged to chip in with their name calling.
And it's not only about the money, bus can be more interesting ride and the city buses can be like rollercoaster -- mixing with locals, massive celling poster / paint of Jesus Christ / Holy Mary over your head, blasting reaggeaton, roaring engine smoking up, holding on to your seat while the driver is putting pedal to the metal taking corners and then braking sharply. Ariport bus is usually a more smooth ride though. Airport taxi the most boring ride. But to be fair, many city taxistas do drive like maniacs, barely passing obstacles and people at high speed, which, when sitting in front can be fun too. The moto taxi can be fun as well, but I value my skin too much, it will be taken off like butter in no time after the contact with the ground, even at the relatively low speed (I do like my bones and brain too (I use it on occasion)).
It can be fun to use public transportation in the city and a sense of accomplishment when you were able to do so to go to a location that you want to visit. I always use the Metro to go to El Centro or some sightseeing places. If you go to Parque Arvi, the cable cars to get up there give you a good experience and there is a sense of accomplishment that you were able to get there by public transportation.
My point is that from the airport I am tired especially after that our long line for immigration that you may experience. I just want to get to the hotel as quickly as possible. That white cab for 110 mil set fee is a no hassle experience that will get you to your hotel safely without any issues. From point A to point and no worries about the tax driver trying to rip you off.
I am in Medellin now and everything seems fine. I have not been drugged or robbed yet but my trip is not finished so there is still time for an incident.
The usual precautions mentioned here will make your trip a little safer. Stay in a place with security and not an Airbnb with no security. Don't drink with the girls and be careful about threesomes with two girls that you do not know. It is just harder to keep an eye on two girls at the same time.
Now I have read a lot of stories about guys on motorcycles robbing people. That has not happened to me but I am aware of my circumstances. I am cautious about when I take out my phone and do not carry my wallet in a place that is easy to be pickpocketed.
I think if you just take these types of common sense precautions, there is a lower probability of bad things happening. Yeah the same time as I mentioned, Colombia is a more dangerous country than some other mongering countries such as Thailand, Costa Rica or the Philippines. I have friends who say I am not risking death for pussy and they will never come to Colombia. I don't think that is a bad decision at all because you definitely can go to safer countries than Colombia.
But if you take extra precautions, Colombia can be a fun place.
Thing about it is that the people that have done it know that it is no hassle. And it saves more than $10. Actually saves about $50 round trip.
Yeah actually I was just thinking the difference is way more than $10 usd. The bus is currently $15'500 COP or $3.93 usd and the White Taxis are $110'000 COP or $27.92 usd, using an exchange rate of 1:3940. So the difference is $24 each way.
You captured the various driving scenarios very well. It breaks my heart when I see handicapped and very old people having to deal with the way the city bus drivers run their routes.
AFAIK the 'bad rep' gringos are getting is for the opposite -- overspending and gentrification.
They do like to squeeze their 'bobos', that's for sure (and who doesn't like clueless customer paying premium for nothing). Of course nobody respects an idiot / push-over so great treatment shouldn't be expected.
As for bus vs taxi, so many pointless comments, bus cost X, taxi Z, the OP can make his own decision, everybody knows taxi is the most convenient, I don't get why some posters feel obliged to chip in with their name calling.
And it's not only about the money, bus can be more interesting ride and the city buses can be like rollercoaster -- mixing with locals, massive celling poster / paint of Jesus Christ / Holy Mary over your head, blasting reaggeaton, roaring engine smoking up, holding on to your seat while the driver is putting pedal to the metal taking corners and then braking sharply. Ariport bus is usually a more smooth ride though. Airport taxi the most boring ride. But to be fair, many city taxistas do drive like maniacs, barely passing obstacles and people at high speed, which, when sitting in front can be fun too. The moto taxi can be fun as well, but I value my skin too much, it will be taken off like butter in no time after the contact with the ground, even at the relatively low speed (I do like my bones and brain too (I use it on occasion)).
Yes, it is situational. Anytime I get off a flight here and the bus line is long, I immediately default to uber or didi.
I think what you are saying is that it is situational. I was in another city last month and the bus from the airport was 2 hours. I arrived at 8 AM and took Uber to a cafe to wait until 11:30 AM check in time. If I were in Medellin, I would just take the bus. I am not in a rush to go to a cafe or some place to wait. There are so many people taking bus, now all these people are being classified as cheap. Does that even make sense?
It's better for people just to provide information and let the person make the informed decision, instead of making decision for other people that one knows nothing about and proceed to start a debate.
I remember once taking a shared taxi (colectivo) for only slightly more than the cost of the bus.
It cost 110 mil for a white cab. That is the equivalent of $26 US dollars. After traveling so far to arrive at the promised land why worry about a few dollars?
A white cab is fast and efficient and they will drive you to your door. If saving 10 dollars is that important then maybe you are better staying home.
I agree with you MoonShot.
To each their own. But I find it a hassle. After spending the better part of the day getting to Medellin, the last thing on my mind is saving $20 some dollars. You mentioned the bus but didn't mention the cost of the cab after getting dropped off. Why hassle with your luggage. Where else can you get door to door service at $20 or $24 ?
Makes no sense to me. Unless your budget is extremely tight and living on paycheck to paycheck in the states.
Yeah actually I was just thinking the difference is way more than $10 usd. The bus is currently $15'500 COP or $3.93 usd and the White Taxis are $110'000 COP or $27.92 usd, using an exchange rate of 1:3940. So the difference is $24 each way.
To each their own. But I find it a hassle. After spending the better part of the day getting to Medellin, the last thing on my mind is saving $20 some dollars. You mentioned the bus but didn't mention the cost of the cab after getting dropped off. Why hassle with your luggage. Where else can you get door to door service at $20 or $24 ?
Makes no sense to me. Unless your budget is extremely tight and living on paycheck to paycheck in the states.Actually the bus now drops off at Exposiciones and then you can hop on the metro for $3280 COP. And not necessarily people on a paycheck to paycheck budget could just be people who don't want to waste money. And usually when I arrive at MDE I'm just coming from Bogota not having spent my whole day on planes. Anyways to each his own.
First visit here in Medellin is going real well, especially since I'm in Centro in order to be closer to the action.
I've been hooking up with a lot of Vinnies and they've been super cool and trenquilo with me, even though my Spanish is see+, we use GT to speak when we want to get across a topic. Anyway. I've been quoted by SW's that the going rate is around 70 mil for thirty minutes, and somewhere around 100-200 mil for the hour and depending on services if you go to the short stay hotel. None of the SW pros I've seen have tried to play me with the price and even corrected me to the correct lower price. Shit you won't see in the states, brah.
Also, Casa's like New Life and Sexy Amigas are my go to cause you can't beat a 70 mil 30 minute session for real.
Energy's rate was fine for what it was but I don't think I'll go to Loutron or anywhere else for the remainder of my stay.
Also, I ordered a Vinnie MILF off of Miltereroticos and she practically stayed the remainder of the night into the morning and only charged 300 mil for over an hour session. She was fun. I really can't be mad with these prices and glad I took the dip to come here. It's a Heaven for Ass and it speaks true. Just can't burn all my money here. Got to return and make money in the states.Hey no they all played with you on the price. It goes highest 50 k.
Unreal that some mongers are so cheap that they would go through all the hassle of a bus and then a taxi with luggage to save $10 after traveling so far. No wonder gringos get a bad rap in MDE. I'm sure the chicas just hate dealing with these cheap Charlies. Just splurge a little and spend the $26 and start your vacation.It's unreal that some mongers believe they are qualified to make decisions for all mongers. And assume everyone's problems are based on other mongers not following their direction.
I've taken a few short trips to Bogota from Medellin, no luggage, just my backpack. In Bogota, I hopped on the bus to Portal Dorado, got on the Transmilenio and rode to within 3 blocks of my hotel. I think it was 1600 pesos at the time and probably saved 45 minutes. When I returned, I got on the bus to San Diego, walked 1 block and hopped on a bus which dropped me right in front of my apartment. 9500 for the airport bus, 1800 for the other and took maybe 10 minutes longer. Bus was more comfortable than any taxi.
At the time exchange rate was about 2500 to 1. Savings were more than $10, but it wasn't about the savings. Midday traffic in both cities can be terrible. Being stuck in traffic in a bus is, to me, slightly better than being stuck in a taxi.
Everyone who visits is going to have different priorities, different interests and different comfort levels. The biggest mistake I've seen people make is to let someone else determine what will be best for them.
Nounce is absolutely right. Put the information out there and allow others to make the decisions which best fit their style.
For the record, I've taken white taxis, yellow taxis, Uber, been picked up by a chica who gave me a hand job all the way to Medellin and who spent 4 hours trying to fuck me senseless, all to get from the airport to Medellin. I've also had friends pick me up and I've rented cars.
To each their own. But I find it a hassle. After spending the better part of the day getting to Medellin, the last thing on my mind is saving $20 some dollars. You mentioned the bus but didn't mention the cost of the cab after getting dropped off. Why hassle with your luggage. Where else can you get door to door service at $20 or $24 ?
Makes no sense to me. Unless your budget is extremely tight and living on paycheck to paycheck in the states.It doesn't have to make sense to you.
Some guys are bringing $1000 worth of gifts to give to chicas. Some guys are staying in $12 per night rooms and bargaining for 40 k fucks. Some guys are renting $1000 per night penthouses. Some guys are spending their time partying on coke and tussi, or getting drunk every night.
If you're spending your time trying to make sense of the things people do, you're too busy to be doing anything else.
Exoticspirit
03-07-24, 19:18
As for bus vs taxi, so many pointless comments, bus cost X, taxi Z, the OP can make his own decision, everybody knows taxi is the most convenient, I don't get why some posters feel obliged to chip in with their name calling.THANK YOU for this! I guess I'm the OP who asked about the different ways of transit and I appreciate the intel I'm getting here. I believe that this type of forum as well as one I use for my own home territory mongering is a great place to share info and I for one always contribute to the geographical locations I'm experienced with to help others without passing judgement on anyone's personal preferences. So to suggest that I should stay at home just because I would be interested in looking at different cost options of transit and even venues for mongering is just so damn disrespectful. Just because I would rather look at all options available rather than do things only certain ways doesn't mean that I won't enjoy my trip.
Many general tourists on Tripadvisor have since highly recommended using buses and Metro to get around. One even warned about how a taxi driver went ballistic because the passenger got out on the wrong side of the car so recommended taking other public transportation to avoid such characters.
And yes, I am trying to stretch out my travel dollars since Colombia is only one country I'm visiting on this trip. I'm also visiting Peru, Panama and Cayman Islands (where I'm paying $280 US per night for my accommodations) so if I look like a cheap Charlie in Colombia -- too fracking bad! It's my darn trip. Guys on my home territory mongering forum did warn my about the existence of some disrespectful individuals on the Colombia forum and they sure were right.
When I finally do my trip, I'll be sure to report what I see, what worked well and what maybe did not to help out others without passing judgement on others.
DaddyLou37
03-07-24, 22:10
Unreal that some mongers are so cheap that they would go through all the hassle of a bus and then a taxi with luggage to save $10 after traveling so far. No wonder gringos get a bad rap in MDE. I'm sure the chicas just hate dealing with these cheap Charlies. Just splurge a little and spend the $26 and start your vacation.Crazy that this whole thread as turned into saving on ATM fees and buses / taxis. If you are that short on money maybe traveling thousands of miles away for some mongering is not the play. I am going back in May and I keep hoping to find some new reports here but its just all BS LOL.
Hey no they all played with you on the price. It goes highest 50 k.New Life and Sexy Amigas were 50 k, 7 years ago. I'm positive they aren't still 50 k.
Mileroticos rates vary from girl to girl. They are not all 50 k, never have been, never will be. If he's happy with what he got for the price he paid, then he's absolutely right.
Mr Enternational
03-08-24, 03:02
Many general tourists on Tripadvisor have since highly recommended using buses and Metro to get around. One even warned about how a taxi driver went ballistic because the passenger got out on the wrong side of the car so recommended taking other public transportation to avoid such characters.What tickles me is how they want you to baby the door. They think that if you close the door with any kind of strength then the car is going to fall apart. Can anyone explain that?
Mr Enternational
03-08-24, 03:35
And yes, I am trying to stretch out my travel dollars since Colombia is only one country I'm visiting on this trip. I'm also visiting Peru, Panama and Cayman Islands (where I'm paying $280 US per night for my accommodations) so if I look like a cheap Charlie in Colombia -- too fracking bad! It's my darn trip.Exactly. I just came back from Seychelles spending $523 on accomodations and $360 on a rental car for a few days. So you will have to excuse me that when I was in Colombia the month before that I only spent $20 per day on airbnb and me and my girl rode the bus 2 hours to Paipa for $8. 70 each each way instead of taking a taxi. A lot of people are spending money on more things than going to Colombia to fuck hookers during their leisure.
Hey no they all played with you on the price. It goes highest 50 k.At least I didn't pay 100 mil for 30 minutes cause that would be bad. I know what to expect next time.
THANK YOU for this! I guess I'm the OP who asked about the different ways of transit and I appreciate the intel I'm getting here. I believe that this type of forum as well as one I use for my own home territory mongering is a great place to share info and I for one always contribute to the geographical locations I'm experienced with to help others without passing judgement on anyone's personal preferences. So to suggest that I should stay at home just because I would be interested in looking at different cost options of transit and even venues for mongering is just so damn disrespectful. Just because I would rather look at all options available rather than do things only certain ways doesn't mean that I won't enjoy my trip.
Waiting on question #800 from Exoticspirit in a 2 week span! What is it going to be?
Maha Siddha
03-08-24, 06:17
I don't understand how anyone can generalize about a mongering venue or the ethnicity of chicas in such a dogmatic manner.
Having spent much of the last five years here, I've found the ladies hanging out around Parque Lleras (as in the casas and strip clubs) to encompass the full spectrum of Chicadom. In terms of looks: The occasional gem, most always several in the quite attractive to doable arrange, and the rest in the you "you couldn't pay me to...... " category. In terms of personality and service: some genuinely engaging and provide great full GFE value for the money; others mechanical clock watchers; the others somewhere in-between. Afro-Colombians, mestizas, blancas (Europeos) in all of the above categories. Over time, one gets pretty good at screening for those that promise to be good company and to provide genuine GFE service.
Some of the El Centro Rats on this thread claim that there's no difference in the quality of chicas to be found loitering about Parque Lleras (or in Gustos for that matter) and those in Plaza Botero and vicinity--and insist that there's, in fact, a large number of chicas working both locations, but charging 4 times the price in Lleras. In their view the only difference between the hotter lookin Llleras chicks and the plainer looking Botero broads is a lot of make-up and pricier / sexier outfits. Although I've never recognized chicas from El Centro in Parque Llleras, I don't doubt that there may well be a fair amount of overlap in the girls working both locations. But (speaking as someone who has spent a fair amount of time in El Centro strip clubs--Barre Ejecutiva, Conejitos, etc. -- and meandering about the Plaza Botero, Calle 53, Avenida de Greiff/Raudall mongering grounds), in my experience, in Parque Llleras one still finds a good number of chicas of a type (quality of looks; education and / or more European ancestry in some cases) that you'd never see in El Centro in your lifetime--except perhaps at midnight mass on Nochebuena (Christmas Eve).
I've met two (in my pretty selective view, quite beautiful) chicas in Parque Lleras whom I have seen reqularly for a couple of years in my apartment (one blondish, European parentage, college educated) --and who each get tested regularly for STDs and provide BBFS, often start our sessions with a leisurely, pro-quality stripshow/twerk-dance session, and are enjoyable to hang out with. I'm not 100% sure about this, but it's my impression that fairly often in and around Parque Lleras you'll find some better looking (sometimes better educated) chicas who are not working girls (i.e. not regularly doing multiple tricks per day), and who, only when hard up for cash, will go to the Parque to troll for clients, but who would never think of setting foot in El Centro.How much you paid for this girl "I've met two (in my pretty selective view, quite beautiful) chicas in Parque Lleras whom I have seen reqularly for a couple of years in my apartment (one blondish, European parentage, college educated) --and who each get tested regularly for STDs and provide BBFS".
Crazy that this whole thread as turned into saving on ATM fees and buses / taxis. If you are that short on money maybe traveling thousands of miles away for some mongering is not the play. I am going back in May and I keep hoping to find some new reports here but its just all BS LOL.While budgeting accordingly is one thing if your going to dabble over pennies and dimes maybe mongering as a whole is not for you.
Even you plan on going to centro and buying 40 k pussy airbnb costs flight costs food costs. They all add up so with that being said it's a general rule to bring extra.
To believe that mongers are altruistic guys who want to share information freely to help others without passing judgment on others is naive. The only common link among all of us is that we want to have sex with attractive women and we are willing to pay for it. That by itself is not enough to make us a brotherhood with a lot of common interests. If you read the thread for at least a few pages, you would quickly see that there is a lot of name calling, believe that I'm doing it right and you're doing it wrong, you guys are a bunch of simps because you do certain things, I pay this much and if you pay any more you're an idiot, and other things like that.
It is the way it is because we are all so different and we don't have much in common other than wanting to have sex with attractive women and willingness to pay for it. There is also always this conflict. If we say a lot of positive things about Medellin and make it easier for everyone to come here, there would be a lot more guys coming here. And yet guys here constantly complain that there are too many guys coming here.
In many ways this thread is no different than discussion about politics. People have different opinions on how to do it right in Medellin and they have firm convictions that the way they are doing it is the way it needs to be done and if you're not doing it that way, you're a sucker or a lowlife.
So I do enjoy reading about other people's experiences yet at the same time you might notice that I've almost never asked for assistance on how to do things in Medellin. Instead I just do research on the internet and configure things out myself. I do ask myself this question, do I want to encourage more guys to come to Medellin and if so, why is that a good thing for me?
Silvakeviniam
03-08-24, 15:48
Has anyone checked out the streetwalker scene in Mayorista by Itagui? I read there is (or maybe was years ago) a streetwalker scene out there.
In Europe and North America, cars must have side impact panels in the doors to be street legal. There is no such requirement in Colombia. Side impact panels increase the weight and rigidity of car doors. They also of course greatly increase safety. Closing the panel equipped car doors requires more force than closing doors that don't have the panels. This is why locals sometimes don't manage to fully close doors on those few occasions when they find themselves in cars of international specification. That is also why those of us used to vehicles of international specifications use more force than necessary to close the car doors.
That is the factual background. Now for the more meaningful cultural notes. There is very little culture of vehicle maintenance in Colombia of the sort there is in the more developed world. The mentality here is avoiding use equals maintenance. This is why in even the hottest weather Colombian motorists keep their ventilation fans off. It is why during heavy rain, drivers don't turn on their windshield wipers (which are more often than not well past replacement condition) until the road is all but invisible. It challenges logic but the traditional driver wisdom in Colombia is cars will suffer structural damage if the doors are shut too forcefully too many times. In fact, few cars here are on the road long enough for that to occur but this is not a place where long term planning or analysis are very prevalent. It's confusing to the gringo mentality that drivers fret so much about how forcefully a door is closed but drive on dead shocks and worn springs for years, accelerate heavily toward red lights and traffic jams, rarely use neutral to coast or downshift to adjust speed instead of alternating between full acceleration and pumping the brakes over and over again. For the next thread on this subject we can talk about the vehicle horn as emergency equipment vs the way it's used for entertainment and an expression of impatience here.
What tickles me is how they want you to baby the door. They think that if you close the door with any kind of strength then the car is going to fall apart. Can anyone explain that?
I'm more salty about this than is reasonable because the more you find out about what's behind it the more ridiculous it seems. Whenever anyone even mentions it to me more I close the door, I just leave it open and let the driver close it exactly the way he wants. Life is too short to deal with that nonsense.
What tickles me is how they want you to baby the door. They think that if you close the door with any kind of strength then the car is going to fall apart. Can anyone explain that?
I think you took it the wrong way. My post is meant to add to yours, to be inclusive that both can exist. I guess you took it as I was trying to negate what you said, which is exclusive. If that is the case, I am trying to make it clear here.
I am only describing what I did, and I was in no rush to go to my apartment even after midnight and a whole day of travel. I did not explain the reason and I intentionally not to because some already made up their mind why? LOL. There is actually irony in these posts which is interesting to observe.
...But if you really want to save money, stay home, watch porn and masturbate. You can save hundreds if not thousands of dollars that way.
The reason to take taxi is straightforward. The reason to take the bus can be more complex. ..When I arrive at Brazil recently, my friend offered to send a family member to pick me up at the airport. I said no, I told her how I was going to get to my place, by Metro and Uber. I said I would call if I had problem entering the area due to Canival traffic restriction. I am convinced now my friend was secretly calling me cheap. hehe
Before I came, they already invited me to go on a road trip together. They paid my share of the deposit for me while I was still in MDE. I just told them I don't have any preference, I will agree to all their decisions, including buses. I can do it if they can. Hehe.
The day we went on the trip, one of girls came wearing a F1 racing baseball hat. She drove 8 hours, with a short lunch stop to reach the destination. The final one and a half hours were unpaved road with pot holes. Once we reached the hotel, unloaded, I just wanted to rest. But they made some drinks and proceeded to drive out again with these glasses on hand over the pot holes filled road. I was amused and took this picture when we were shopping. They are Brazilians after all.
During the trip, the girls would share a single plate (being cheap I guess). But I noticed that I sometimes paid less than I was supposed to. I guess they divided the total bill equally so they ended paying more while ordering less. They are still cheap regardless because I made up my mind. LOL. One night, when the bill came, I told them It would make me very happy if I could pay the dinner for all of us. One of them called me prince made it worth it. Haha.
The fall takes two hours hike and it's well worth it.
Also you should know, people like me, Mr E, Knowledge don't have to return to USA after a short trip.
Taking the Metro to El Centro is relatively easy. If you want to learn how to use the Metro, it is a good place to visit with the Parque Barrio station stop. If you get out and go out left to get to the museums, you can see all the statues. Then make a left at the antiques museum and you are heading to the church, the white church where the street walkers hang out. Make a right and that is the main street where most of the street walkers are.
I was just there this afternoon and this is my impression. The vast majority of the girls there are unattractive, old, chubby or combination of the three. But if there will always be one or two girls who are decent enough for you to screw.
As many have said, if you go in the daytime, it is relatively safe because there are a lot of people roaming around. There are many shops there and the locals go shopping there.
On my last visit to El Centro a few months ago, my experience was basically the same. Most of the girls are not to my liking but I can find one or two that I would take.
As to whether these girls also hang out at Parque Lleras, I think the vast majority do not because they would not attract much business. They are generally not the type of girls that gringos are interested in. After paying for airfare and hotel, most guys are not interested in having sex with average looking girls.
SankarShetty
03-08-24, 20:48
A week used to cost me roughly 3 K including flights, chicas, stay, food and drink. While I eat street food, I also go to restaurants like El cielo or Ricotto, once a day or every other day. I drink but I am neither a heavy drinker not someone who orders cocktails at every lunch and dinner.
I just did a full month with remote work. It cost me about 8 K for everything. This includes about 80 sessions. Majority of them between 1 to 3 hours, some dinner dates and about a week of overnights. I think I must have spent about 4500 on the chicas, some of it on their transport, food and drink. If I average out, then the session costs are typically about 50 plus about another 15 for transport. If I had the digital nomad visa and lived here long term I believe I would have averaged about 4 K USD in monthly expenses. I have been wingman to weekend warriors who typically blow 1 K for the Saturday night including hookah and bottle and 2 chicas. I have seen people blowing 3 K USD at Park Lleras in a single night so don't sharpen your knives for me. My stay averaged about 1800 in the month and 1 K for flight and other transport related costs. Cost and session quality are not related in IMHO. I think familiarity and long term relationship helps improve session.
SankarShetty
03-08-24, 21:22
RTFF the thread and do some F** contributions before you start asking questions. All your 3 posts are just questions that have been answered and answered before.
Has anyone checked out the streetwalker scene in Mayorista by Itagui? I read there is (or maybe was years ago) a streetwalker scene out there..
Param Ahmad
03-08-24, 22:20
What tickles me is how they want you to baby the door. They think that if you close the door with any kind of strength then the car is going to fall apart. Can anyone explain that?I can confirm your observation, but I don't know why. Maybe their car doors are fragile.
New Life and Sexy Amigas were 50 k, 7 years ago. I'm positive they aren't still 50 k.
Mileroticos rates vary from girl to girl. They are not all 50 k, never have been, never will be. If he's happy with what he got for the price he paid, then he's absolutely right.They were talking about Centro street girls.
To each their own. But I find it a hassle. After spending the better part of the day getting to Medellin, the last thing on my mind is saving $20 some dollars. You mentioned the bus but didn't mention the cost of the cab after getting dropped off. Why hassle with your luggage. Where else can you get door to door service at $20 or $24 ?
Makes no sense to me. Unless your budget is extremely tight and living on paycheck to paycheck in the states.Also you fail to mention that many of the taxistas are thieves. They carry with them counterfeit money and give it out as change and even swap your real money for the fake money and hand it back to you. Maybe you haven't been here long enough for it to happen to you yet, but it does happen and quite frequently. I've never had a bus driver try to that on me though.
To believe that mongers are altruistic guys who want to share information freely to help others without passing judgment on others is naive. The only common link among all of us is that we want to have sex with attractive women and we are willing to pay for it. That by itself is not enough to make us a brotherhood with a lot of common interests. If you read the thread for at least a few pages, you would quickly see that there is a lot of name calling, believe that I'm doing it right and you're doing it wrong, you guys are a bunch of simps because you do certain things, I pay this much and if you pay any more you're an idiot, and other things like that.
It is the way it is because we are all so different and we don't have much in common other than wanting to have sex with attractive women and willingness to pay for it. There is also always this conflict. If we say a lot of positive things about Medellin and make it easier for everyone to come here, there would be a lot more guys coming here. And yet guys here constantly complain that there are too many guys coming here.
In many ways this thread is no different than discussion about politics. People have different opinions on how to do it right in Medellin and they have firm convictions that the way they are doing it is the way it needs to be done and if you're not doing it that way, you're a sucker or a lowlife.
So I do enjoy reading about other people's experiences yet at the same time you might notice that I've almost never asked for assistance on how to do things in Medellin. Instead I just do research on the internet and configure things out myself. I do ask myself this question, do I want to encourage more guys to come to Medellin and if so, why is that a good thing for me?Some people have to put down others-- a lot of that going on -- I have made some real friends over the years though. I think this is the same as most of life-.
A few guys have even donated to the Venezuelan family I am helping.
It is funny though, the idiotic fights and the put down artists. I just laugh at it. -.
Silvakeviniam
03-09-24, 13:46
RTFF the thread and do some F** contributions before you start asking questions. All your 3 posts are just questions that have been answered and answered before.
.My question wasn't exactly basic and I figured it could benefit others as well. That area has been changing in recent years too which is why I ask. I'll see myself out.
John Gault
03-09-24, 16:01
Has anyone checked out the streetwalker scene in Mayorista by Itagui? I read there is (or maybe was years ago) a streetwalker scene out there.In 2010 it used to be awesome. Once it got dark there was plenty of hot girls for 30 to 40 K. About 18 months ago I went there at night and I saw about 5 girls there and none I liked.
You may not like Colombian food but Medellin has a lot of good places to eat. Especially in Poblado there is a wide variety of food choices that are global in nature such as Chinese, Italian, Mexican, Peruvian, American, and Japanese. For Americans, there are a lot of very good hamburger, hot dog, fried chicken and pizza. Places. You may not like Colombian food but you don't have to eat Colombian food. I enjoy eating here. There is also a lot of bakeries.
The number one cheap snack I would recommend are the empanadas. Tasty and under a dollar.
Of course a lot guys here are more interested in eating something else but outside of the bedroom, there are some decent places to eat.
Yes, unfortunately passing counterfeit money, short changing, and grossly overcharging tourists are very active taxi scams. Two of the best known hotspots where sleazeball taxistas pick up their (usually foreign) victims are the stretch of calle 10 near the Domino's Pizza and the Poblado metro station. Something like ten years ago a taxista gave me a fake 50,000 peso note. After a Claro store refused to accept it I passed it off to a casa. I avoid taxis as much as possible for this and other reasons. They are convenient in certain situations. My advice for using them is to never deal in cash and only book them via didi or uber. If you do this you get the benefit of your credit card issuer to be able to dispute invalid or excessive charges, you have an audit trail in case you need to identify the driver or find a lost item, and you don't have to explain your destination or how to reach it because you can refer the driver to GPS.
Also you fail to mention that many of the taxistas are thieves. They carry with them counterfeit money and give it out as change and even swap your real money for the fake money and hand it back to you. Maybe you haven't been here long enough for it to happen to you yet, but it does happen and quite frequently. I've never had a bus driver try to that on me though.
John Gault
03-09-24, 16:25
Also you fail to mention that many of the taxistas are thieves. They carry with them counterfeit money and give it out as change and even swap your real money for the fake money and hand it back to you. Maybe you haven't been here long enough for it to happen to you yet, but it does happen and quite frequently. I've never had a bus driver try to that on me though.A while back ago I took a taxi in Centro. It was late at night and after a while he pulled a knife on me. I only had about 30 k on me so I handed it over to him. He kept asking for a cell phone but I had mine in the room. He was not happy. Finally he stopped the cab and let me out about 3 blocks from my hotel. The mistake I made was sitting in the front seat. I will never do that again when I'm alone in a taxi. One thing made me feel good. I slammed his fucken door so hard the whole taxi shook. I could have taken his number and went to the police but I have delt with the police before and it is a total waste of time.
My question wasn't exactly basic and I figured it could benefit others as well. That area has been changing in recent years too which is why I ask. I'll see myself out.You will have to forgive Sanker, not all of our boardmembers have the most polite manners.
I believe if someone is asking a stupid question that can be answered by reading a few pages back then that deserves being told to RTFF, however a more complex question deserves the respect of being able to be asked and answered by someone with the knowledge to answer said question.
Now as to the Itagui area, I myself didn't even know there was a street walker area there. Itagui is a more upscale suburb of Medellin along with Envigado and Sabaneta, etc. I usually only go down that way if I am eating at the California Buffet which is off of the ayura station.
I do know there are other streetwalker areas besides just Botero / Veracruz and Parque Lleras / Calle 10. Some of them only have chicas at night though and not during the day. One such area that comes to mind is San Diego / La Cuarenta.
Also you fail to mention that many of the taxistas are thieves. They carry with them counterfeit money and give it out as change and even swap your real money for the fake money and hand it back to you.The trick they pulled on my was they always took the slow, roundabout way to my destination, sometimes stopping at a store or to wave at a friend.
This is yet another reason to only engage them via ride share apps. If they deviate from an approved route you can dispute it. Taxistas will intentionally drive into traffic jams so they can relax while the meter runs and lines their pockets.
The trick they pulled on my was they always took the slow, roundabout way to my destination, sometimes stopping at a store or to wave at a friend.
JohnnieCash
03-09-24, 18:10
Has anyone checked out the streetwalker scene in Mayorista by Itagui? I read there is (or maybe was years ago) a streetwalker scene out there.About a month ago I had a chat with a local Colombian monger in Centro that claimed there is a decent street scene in Itagui on evenings and later but I forgot the street number, probably around there since I doubt there would be two different areas with SWs.
Yes, unfortunately passing counterfeit money, short changing, and grossly overcharging tourists are very active taxi scams. Two of the best known hotspots where sleazeball taxistas pick up their (usually foreign) victims are the stretch of calle 10 near the Domino's Pizza and the Poblado metro station. Something like ten years ago a taxista gave me a fake 50,000 peso note. After a Claro store refused to accept it I passed it off to a casa. I avoid taxis as much as possible for this and other reasons. They are convenient in certain situations. My advice for using them is to never deal in cash and only book them via didi or uber. If you do this you get the benefit of your credit card issuer to be able to dispute invalid or excessive charges, you have an audit trail in case you need to identify the driver or find a lost item, and you don't have to explain your destination or how to reach it because you can refer the driver to GPS.How in the world did a taxi driver give you a 50,000 (50 mil) note? What did you give him? The 100 mil note didn't come out until 2016. No one in their right mind should give a taxi driver a 100 mil note. They are odds on to not have change. Common sense applies. Always have a range of small bills in order to pay the taxi driver without needing to get big bills in change. Not so much because of getting fake bills, but because they usually don't have a lot of big bills to give you back. Last thing you want is to have to pull in to some all night cafe to try to get change to pay your driver.
Exoticspirit
03-09-24, 19:03
I was just there this afternoon and this is my impression. The vast majority of the girls there are unattractive, old, chubby or combination of the three. But if there will always be one or two girls who are decent enough for you to screw.
As many have said, if you go in the daytime, it is relatively safe because there are a lot of people roaming around. There are many shops there and the locals go shopping there.Even from watching a lot of the Centro videos, I get the same impression as you about the girls there, ie. , many 'fuglies' but there's the odd one that caught my eye. If nothing at New Life interests me, I might take a walk around Centro to see if there's anything I like. I assume those who are standing close to stairways just use the rooms right upstairs while those standing near the church we'll have to just go to another short time room. But I might use this area as my plan be if New Life doesn't work out for me or I might head back on the Metro to pop over to Energy.
There does seem to be quite a lot of small eateries and street food at Centro where I might stop over for a bit to eat after a session. Might be entertaining to just watch the local world go by for a bit too while munching on something at one of these small places.
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