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I can't post an image right now but a buddy sent this to me. I am hoping this means more Centro action and might keep prices down.
What do you guys think?That's great news! Sick and tired of the shit show around Lleras. The park used to be a great place to hang out, look at it now, so disgusting. Centro hoes should stay in Centro where they belong.
BenTiger07
04-01-24, 23:35
When does this take effect? From what I read, my understanding is prostitution can still occur in parque lleras, but not after 1 am.
Correct?
Here's a Google translate of the front page report in today's newspaper (El Colombiano):
Medellin's Mayor's Office prohibits supply and demand of sexual services in El Poblado and premises will have to close at 1:00 am.
The two measures, which include the prohibition of the practice of prostitution for the next six months, aim to counteract the sexual exploitation of girls, boys and adolescents after finding a foreigner with two girls in a hotel in that area of Medellin.
As promised during a press conference held last Sunday, March 31, the mayor of Medellin Federico Gutirrez announced this Monday drastic measures to counteract the sexual exploitation of girls, boys and adolescents in the city.
This Monday, the local president announced that his office decided to prohibit "the demand or request for sexual services or related activities" in commune 14, El Poblado, for six months.
Specifically, Gutirrez ordered the temporary suspension of the demand or request for sexual services and related activities as well as their promotion and advertising in any format in the public space of the area.
The measure taken by the Mayor's Office of Medellin covers a polygon that extends to the surroundings of El Poblado Park, Provenza, Lleras Park, La Presidenta linear park and surrounding residential areas.
Here's the English update from DC Rob about the situation in El Poblado.
https://youtu.be/DIhoWeJX9EQ?si=sNrh2xG7XIspBnSd
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DaddyLou37
04-02-24, 00:36
I can't post an image right now but a buddy sent this to me. I am hoping this means more Centro action and might keep prices down.
What do you guys think?I wonder if this will apply mostly to the streetwalkers around the park? But also wheat about the bars / clubs near by, as well as any outcalls?
LoveItHere
04-02-24, 00:38
That area makes tons of money off the foreigners but are now being punished because of the foreigners. It was not just the one American that caused this. IN other news the underage problems have continued to rise with the rise in tourists. Some locals may not be very happy with the foreigners at the moment so keep your head down! They may be made at you for loss of business and / or think you are a pedo. Be careful out there.
I wonder what these changes will do to prices outside of Poblado? Will it scare away the El Centro warriors and Tinseltown weekend transients or will they just funnel to other venues like el cento and Facebook. If this last six months we'll sure find out. I'm hoping a price drop comes out of this.
I wonder what these changes will do to prices outside of Poblado? Will it scare away the El Centro warriors and Tinseltown weekend transients or will they just funnel to other venues like el cento and Facebook. If this last six months we'll sure find out. I'm hoping a price drop comes out of this.Well. One thing for sure is that these Poblado girls will not be able to charge 250 mil or more in Botero. They will have to go to Facebook or work in casas or clubs or something if they want to continue to charge their exorbitant prices. I think the ones that do end up going (back) to the Botero / Veracruz area will have to charge 50 mil at most or else they won't get any customers.
I can't post an image right now but a buddy sent this to me. I am hoping this means more Centro action and might keep prices down.
What do you guys think?Less supply means higher prices I would think. They certainly will not all move to centro. And the ones that do will likely still want Poblado prices.
The situation in El Poblado is evolving so fast that DC Rob just posted a 2nd update on the ongoing situation on the ground.
https://youtu.be/W9X6AeLSjqw?si=3F4CCz_QkUcEQR7X
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Less supply means higher prices I would think. They certainly will not all move to centro. And the ones that do will likely still want Poblado prices.If they were to all go flood Centro then that would mean there would be more supply in El Centro as the girls from El Poblado return to work the Botero area. More Supply would mean lower prices. And if they are out there asking the same 250 mil or more then they wouldn't get any customers because the girls to the left and right of them will still be taking 40 mil or 50 mil. Also there are not as many foreigner mongers in Botero I'd say 95% of the clients are locals and only 5% are foreign and the locals aren't going to be paying 250 mil.
This should result in lower prices and more girls in El Centro.
The only way the Poblado girls will be able to continue to charge their bullshit prices will be if they go to seeking or other online venues or maybe in some of the clubs or Casas and that is if they can even get in. They may just end up going to some other city.
Less supply means higher prices I would think. They certainly will not all move to centro. And the ones that do will likely still want Poblado prices.Good luck to them getting Poblado prices in Centro.
Good luck to them getting Poblado prices in Centro.Some where in between. More customers in Centro, including those that would not have been there before. So they will bid up the attractive girls and still feel it is reasonable. Look for 150 mil prices in Centro, coming soon.
Some where in between. More customers in Centro, including those that would not have been there before. So they will bid up the attractive girls and still feel it is reasonable. Look for 150 mil prices in Centro, coming soon.150 mil in Centro will be a cold day in hell. No local will pay that much for a street walker and the 5% of foreign customers will not be able to change the market rates even if they overpay.
Now maybe a few suckers might pay 150 mil but this will not be the majority.
That's great news! Sick and tired of the shit show around Lleras. The park used to be a great place to hang out, look at it now, so disgusting. Centro hoes should stay in Centro where they belong.I actually agree. I'm tired of this pussy drain in which the Centro hoes are going to Poblado and inflating their prices. There was this dude on here InsolentSpike that was trying to hook me up with one of his chicas named Alejandra who was a 50 mil Centro girl and she was trying to say she charged 250 mil and only worked in Poblado (needless to say I told the bi*ch to kick rocks). This was back in early 2023 I believe, but anyways now all those hoes will be back to Centro taking 50 mil again like they used to. Atleast until Zeos comes along and gives them 150 mil LOL.
I can't post an image right now but a buddy sent this to me. I am hoping this means more Centro action and might keep prices down.
What do you guys think?Here's a link to some information about the creep with two girls (12 and 13 years old) that the mayor mentioned in that article. https://www.facebook.com/groups/687879467983598/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=6918277578277058.
Is anyone else receiving an unusually high number of friend requests from ladies on Facebook? Within the past week, I've received numerous requests every day. They appear to be legitimate ladies with a history of posts and numerous photos. Usually, I may get one request a week and most are from people who just created a Facebook profile.
If they were to all go flood Centro then that would mean there would be more supply in El Centro as the girls from El Poblado return to work the Botero area.Hopefully the scopolamine gangs and other nefarious groups don't follow them. They're going to be looking for a new home and pockets. Hopefully they go back to Cartagena. But of course if the typical deep wallets and heavy spenders of Parque Lleras move in any typical el Centro rat can get caught up in this El Poblado Lleras park shit.
ElSexoChino7
04-02-24, 07:25
Those big spenders and passport bros are probably scrambling right now with their upcoming trip to Medellin LOL. A huge percentage will be filtered out. Most likely cancelling their trips LOL. Only a select "few" who knows how to move will stay and continue to travel to Medellin. This will result in driving down the prices of girls tremendously as the demands gets lower. Airbnb's around those areas and hotels will have to lower their prices. 8's and 9's girls will have to relocate mostly online or start working back to strip clubs if they want to charge 250-400 k. Poblado girls got used to getting poblado prices only a few of them will go to El Centro and swallow the 50-70 k price range to compete with Centro girls. I'm guessing La isla and Fase dos will get a good roster of girls soon. Some may go to Massage spas like loutron and New life. Casas will get mostly these poblado girls, I'm assuming. A lot will migrate to Tinder and dating apps definitely. Good luck on Gusto's though lol. Whatever happens, these girls has to eat, pay rent and feed their kids. There's no way they are getting a regular job, while Fico will earn the respect of some locals with this movement. We just have to wait for what will happen in the upcoming months.
Those big spenders and passport bros are probably scrambling right now with their upcoming trip to Medellin LOL. A huge percentage will be filtered out. Most likely cancelling their trips LOL. Only a select "few" who knows how to move will stay and continue to travel to Medellin. This will result in driving down the prices of girls tremendously as the demands gets lower. Airbnb's around those areas and hotels will have to lower their prices. 8's and 9's girls will have to relocate mostly online or start working back to strip clubs if they want to charge 250-400 k. Poblado girls got used to getting poblado prices only a few of them will go to El Centro and swallow the 50-70 k price range to compete with Centro girls. I'm guessing La isla and Fase dos will get a good roster of girls soon. Some may go to Massage spas like loutron and New life. Casas will get mostly these poblado girls, I'm assuming. This is wrong and you don't know the half of it. I can't take it you guys aren't being honest. I know a police officer in Medellin and he says they don't even report 1/20th of all the pedos getting caught. They are even setting up sting-like operations for people who use facebook now. The spot has been blown up. But guess what, passport bros will barely cancel any trip because they and all their 62-year-old white guy twice-divorced counterparts think they KNOW how to move better than everybody else. Idiots reading this post right now are thinking "awesome people are leaving so I'll be the only guy in a sea of women". It brings the "It will never happen to ME, I'll be extra careful" attitude until you find yourself talking to 3 police officers in your overpriced AirBnb with a girl who told you she was 18 but only to find out she just turned 17 and you are going to jail and your name is being published all over the news in the US. Life over! And who wants live in a city where you're always on edge because of the robberies or 20 something might put some thing in your drink while you're not looking. That stress is not worth it.
This place is bad right now, foreigners get robbed and drugged every day some having their entire life-savings wiped, and prices will go UP not down because Paisa culture is greedy! They don't think about getting more clients with less expensive rates, they are too selfish and dumb for that. They will raise prices to compensate. I've lived here for 7 years and I have never seen locals so furious. They are reporting gringos to the police now left and right. In my building, they've called the police on visitors 3 times in the last month. Locals are having neighborhood meetings about gringos, pedos and gentrification. And all of this happened because YouTubers convinced the whole world that Medellin is the only city in the world with beautiful women and good prices. I plan on traveling to a few of my other favorite cities OUTSIDE of Colombia (I'm not going to say where because you clowns will blow up the spot) where I can monger in peace and I'm moving out of the city by July. It is just too much, drugging, killings, and now the Mayor hiring an ENTIRE task force to catch gringos. No way man. The writing is on the wall. If you don't believe me search "gringo go home", "Green go" on any social media website.
LoveItHere
04-02-24, 10:57
If the mayor is hitting Poblado that hard, do you really think he will be ignoring Centro? I suspect the mayor and his boys will be visiting Centro very soon.
I appreciate your concern. I don't think it's going to be a problem among the Centro rat population. I'm going to explain why in response to another more extreme nightmare scenario prognostication. As Gabacho says, "follow along" .
Hopefully the scopolamine gangs and other nefarious groups don't follow them. They're going to be looking for a new home and pockets. Hopefully they go back to Cartagena. But of course if the typical deep wallets and heavy spenders of Parque Lleras move in any typical el Centro rat can get caught up in this El Poblado Lleras park shit.
The mayoral decrees have immediate legal effect but practical considerations mean you may not notice anything for a week or more. Note that prostitution remains legal because it has constitutional protection. I reckon the change for Lleras aficionados will be you will no longer have to wait until 4 am to scoop up bargains. You can start that hunt around midnight soon.
When does this take effect? From what I read, my understanding is prostitution can still occur in parque lleras, but not after 1 am.
Correct?
I think some historical perspective will help walk some of us back off the edge of the roof. We can all calm down and consider these points. Neither the Mayor nor the measures he decreed are new. FICO was mayor during the four years before the pandemic when Quintero took over in 2020. Both FICO and Quintero have mounted media campaigns in response to outrage when the honky tonk scene in Poblado has become offensive. As for pricing going down in Centro, I haven't noticed them going up in any significant way. Overall compared to FICO's first term (2016 to 2020) the cost of about 40 K (30 K girl + 8 k to 10 K hotel) now averages about 50 K (40 K girl + 8 K to 10 K hotel). Even though Lleras / Provenza / la 10 is a mostly nighttime scene, I think it's likely some of the providers will be squeezed back to daytime shifts in Centro because the competition will increase with fewer tourists and fewer hours in Poblado. I never believed there were many girls splitting time between Poblado and Centro until they began mentioning it to me and until my curiosity got the better of me and I watched a couple of youtube videos. Sure enough, there they were in Parque Lleras.
I don't think anyone needs to worry about Centro. Not even the pandemic could shut it down. Of course it slowed things down quite a bit but take it from me, the hotels and girls were in operation throughout. So this guy who is now being pursued under international pressure is the latest poster boy for the red line of punter behavior. The Mayor had to take action after his political enemies began to use the public outrage against him. He will be another Colombia Jake. His life is ruined now that he has been doxxed in the international press. I'm with Miamiboy on the subject of not missing all night red light district antics in Poblado. That is the endgame for any scene that is marked by flashing lights, blaring music, and international scrutiny.
If the mayor is hitting Poblado that hard, do you really think he will be ignoring Centro? I suspect the mayor and his boys will be visiting Centro very soon.
Those big spenders and passport bros are probably scrambling right now with their upcoming trip to Medellin LOL. A huge percentage will be filtered out. Most likely cancelling their trips LOL. Only a select "few" who knows how to move will stay and continue to travel to Medellin. This will result in driving down the prices of girls tremendously as the demands gets lower. Airbnb's around those areas and hotels will have to lower their prices. 8's and 9's girls will have to relocate mostly online or start working back to strip clubs if they want to charge 250-400 k. Poblado girls got used to getting poblado prices only a few of them will go to El Centro and swallow the 50-70 k price range to compete with Centro girls. I'm guessing La isla and Fase dos will get a good roster of girls soon. Some may go to Massage spas like loutron and New life. Casas will get mostly these poblado girls, I'm assuming. A lot will migrate to Tinder and dating apps definitely. Good luck on Gusto's though lol. Whatever happens, these girls has to eat, pay rent and feed their kids. There's no way they are getting a regular job, while Fico will earn the respect of some locals with this movement. We just have to wait for what will happen in the upcoming months.The girls will find a way. Enforcement by the police? Some discrete bribes by the nightclubs will take care of the matter. Girls will still be available. They are not going to arrest the girls and prostitution is not illegal so I think the girls will still be hanging around. More likely more of the girls will go online. So for guys who search for girls online, nothing really changes and there will be more girls available. As for girls in Poblado going to El Centro, that is not going to happen for most of these girls. They have established their market price and they aren't going to accept 40-50 mil. Not happening. They will find another way to find their customers for the same price. That is the beauty of seeing online girls. None of these changes affects anything.
Mr Enternational
04-02-24, 13:58
If the mayor is hitting Poblado that hard, do you really think he will be ignoring Centro?Yes. Because this is about foreigners, not locals. The high concentration of foreigners is in Poblado. You can count the number of foreigners downtown on one hand.
Flawless Zeal
04-02-24, 14:09
Here's the English update from DC Rob about the situation in El Poblado.
https://youtu.be/DIhoWeJX9EQ?si=sNrh2xG7XIspBnSd
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/mayor-of-medellin-colombia-bans-prostitution-in-neighbourhoods-that-are-popular-with-tourists-1.6829656
Fuckin pedo ruining it for everyone: "The Medelland prostitution ban comes just days after an American man was found in a hotel room with two local girls aged 12 and 13, in a case widely covered by the local press."
If you consider the decrees themselves rather than some of the (over) reactions on social media, Gustos and the like are being made to close 3 hours earlier than they now do. Also, as has been the case for years now, there will continue to be media friendly crackdown operations of rousting street girls and stop and frisk programs against them and punters. None of this is new, including the pedo punter being made a poster boy for the concept of foreigners being the source of Colombia's centuries old problems. It's a get out of jail free card for politicians who find themselves under pressure. I might see it differently than some who haven't been here full time for years. Even if you've never been here, just think it through logically. Does it seem realistic that whatever happens to the couple of hundred girls who run around Poblado could have a major impact on what goes on in the rest of a city of millions of people? Even if Poblado is the sum total of your Medellin experience, nothing new is being made illegal. Yes there will be heightened enforcement from time to time but that is not new either. It would be nice to see a crackdown on the roving pickpocket and stick up boy wolf packs but I'm not holding my breath.
Those big spenders and passport bros are probably scrambling right now with their upcoming trip to Medellin LOL. A huge percentage will be filtered out. Most likely cancelling their trips LOL. Only a select "few" who knows how to move will stay and continue to travel to Medellin. This will result in driving down the prices of girls tremendously as the demands gets lower. Airbnb's around those areas and hotels will have to lower their prices. 8's and 9's girls will have to relocate mostly online or start working back to strip clubs if they want to charge 250-400 k. Poblado girls got used to getting poblado prices only a few of them will go to El Centro and swallow the 50-70 k price range to compete with Centro girls. I'm guessing La isla and Fase dos will get a good roster of girls soon. Some may go to Massage spas like loutron and New life. Casas will get mostly these poblado girls, I'm assuming. A lot will migrate to Tinder and dating apps definitely. Good luck on Gusto's though lol. Whatever happens, these girls has to eat, pay rent and feed their kids. There's no way they are getting a regular job, while Fico will earn the respect of some locals with this movement. We just have to wait for what will happen in the upcoming months.
Is anyone else receiving an unusually high number of friend requests from ladies on Facebook? Within the past week, I've received numerous requests every day. They appear to be legitimate ladies with a history of posts and numerous photos. Usually, I may get one request a week and most are from people who just created a Facebook profile.Not currently I'm not getting more friend requests than usual but in the past I have and usually if they have mutual friends in common with Me I will check them out and accept them. I've fucked a few even that have sent me request instead of me sending them request. It turns out just as they pop up under "people you may know" our profiles pop up to them too and if they are looking for new clientes and see your picture sometimes they'll send you a request. Facebook algorithms really help us to get laid LOL, it's a beautiful thing.
Poblado girls can carry on charging what they charge and they will be able to do it in Poblado. They will have three hours less per night to do it but people are adaptable.
If they were to all go flood Centro then that would mean there would be more supply in El Centro as the girls from El Poblado return to work the Botero area. More Supply would mean lower prices. And if they are out there asking the same 250 mil or more then they wouldn't get any customers because the girls to the left and right of them will still be taking 40 mil or 50 mil. Also there are not as many foreigner mongers in Botero I'd say 95% of the clients are locals and only 5% are foreign and the locals aren't going to be paying 250 mil.
This should result in lower prices and more girls in El Centro.
The only way the Poblado girls will be able to continue to charge their bullshit prices will be if they go to seeking or other online venues or maybe in some of the clubs or Casas and that is if they can even get in. They may just end up going to some other city.
JohnnieCash
04-02-24, 16:57
As for girls in Poblado going to El Centro, that is not going to happen for most of these girls. They have established their market price and they aren't going to accept 40-50 mil. Not happening. They will find another way to find their customers for the same price. The market they were operating is changing and 50-100 mil is better than 0 mil. It's not relevant how much they ask or have been getting, what's relevant how much they can get now.
They would be well advised to start wearing those plastic COVID face guards to protect against spit of centro mongers laughing in their faces hearing 250 mil quotes.
Most of these girls would be probably bitching / unhappy / reminiscing about good'ol poblado days and how she used to fuck for much more and how the john should be grateful for her charging 50-100 mil now etc, so thanks but not thanks from me anyway in most cases, at least not until they adjust their head and service to the new reality. But still, most of them are too spoiled at this point probably.
Well, will see, interesting development in any case. As others have said, street, online, strip clubs, and casa rosters might improve. Even the centro hos service and roster should improve as well, since they won't be able to fall back on poblado now.
LoveItHere
04-02-24, 17:20
Yes. Because this is about foreigners, not locals. The high concentration of foreigners is in Poblado. You can count the number of foreigners downtown on one hand.Hear that guys? We have been informed by Mr. Know-it-all that there are only 5 or less gringos in the Centro area. Good to know. Thanks so much.
So this guy who is now being pursued under international pressure is the latest poster boy for the red line of punter behavior. The Mayor had to take action after his political enemies began to use the public outrage against him. He will be another Colombia Jake. His life is ruined now that he has been doxxed in the international press.I don't think he is in Colombia. I read that the police released him and he immediately left the country. Of course, if they put him on Interpol, the places he can escape to are limited. My bet is that the Colombian authorities will not pursue him.
I don't think he is in Colombia. I read that the police released him and he immediately left the country. Of course, if they put him on Interpol, the places he can escape to are limited. My bet is that the Colombian authorities will not pursue him.The real question is why did they release him and allow him to leave Colombia if they had in fact found him in his hotel room with two 12 and 13 year old girls?
This is wrong and you don't know the half of it. I can't take it you guys aren't being honest. I know a police officer in Medellin and he says they don't even report 1/20th of all the pedos getting caught. They are even setting up sting-like operations for people who use facebook now. The spot has been blown up. But guess what, passport bros will barely cancel any trip because they and all their 62-year-old white guy twice-divorced counterparts think they KNOW how to move better than everybody else. Idiots reading this post right now are thinking "awesome people are leaving so I'll be the only guy in a sea of women". It brings the "It will never happen to ME, I'll be extra careful" attitude until you find yourself talking to 3 police officers in your overpriced AirBnb with a girl who told you she was 18 but only to find out she just turned 17 and you are going to jail and your name is being published all over the news in the US. Life over! And who wants live in a city where you're always on edge because of the robberies or 20 something might put some thing in your drink while you're not looking. That stress is not worth it.
This place is bad right now, foreigners get robbed and drugged every day some having their entire life-savings wiped, and prices will go UP not down because Paisa culture is greedy! They don't think about getting more clients with less expensive rates, they are too selfish and dumb for that. They will raise prices to compensate. I've lived here for 7 years and I have never seen locals so furious. They are reporting gringos to the police now left and right. In my building, they've called the police on visitors 3 times in the last month. Locals are having neighborhood meetings about gringos, pedos and gentrification. And all of this happened because YouTubers convinced the whole world that Medellin is the only city in the world with beautiful women and good prices. I plan on traveling to a few of my other favorite cities OUTSIDE of Colombia (I'm not going to say where because you clowns will blow up the spot) where I can monger in peace and I'm moving out of the city by July. It is just too much, drugging, killings, and now the Mayor hiring an ENTIRE task force to catch gringos. No way man. The writing is on the wall. If you don't believe me search "gringo go home", "Green go" on any social media website.This is not to bring down tourism. It's more about catching pedophiles. I see so many guys who are posting about 18-19 year olds and meanwhile they're prob in their 50's and 60's. Girls are using their friends seeédulas and fake ids.
The Colombian government knows their rep is taking a hit with the druggings so they're trying to throw it back in the faces of other countries saying you're sending working girl mongers and pedos here so we're going to crack down and arrest those gringos just to justify some of the stuff that's going on.
Update #3 on the situation in Poblado and more information on the American who was caught with the two underage girls in his hotel room at the Gotham Hotel.
https://www.youtube.com/live/QgcvcfUKTfg?si=P6ZxSaTveU-M2SdH
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BlueChange
04-03-24, 03:07
The girls will find a way. Enforcement by the police? Some discrete bribes by the nightclubs will take care of the matter. Girls will still be available. They are not going to arrest the girls and prostitution is not illegal so I think the girls will still be hanging around. More likely more of the girls will go online. So for guys who search for girls online, nothing really changes and there will be more girls available. As for girls in Poblado going to El Centro, that is not going to happen for most of these girls. They have established their market price and they aren't going to accept 40-50 mil. Not happening. They will find another way to find their customers for the same price. That is the beauty of seeing online girls. None of these changes affects anything.I Agree, this environment has the potential to create a new place, not lleras or Centro. Perhaps like a Superclub like Help was in Rio in the 90's and 2000's. I think Farenheight was like that in itagui but never on a grande scale. Someone is going to want to make money and you aren't going to stop people selling P on a dime.
JackTaggart
04-03-24, 03:30
The market they were operating is changing and 50-100 mil is better than 0 mil. It's not relevant how much they ask or have been getting, what's relevant how much they can get now.
They would be well advised to start wearing those plastic COVID face guards to protect against spit of centro mongers laughing in their faces hearing 250 mil quotes.
Most of these girls would be probably bitching / unhappy / reminiscing about good'ol poblado days and how she used to fuck for much more and how the john should be grateful for her charging 50-100 mil now etc, so thanks but not thanks from me anyway in most cases, at least not until they adjust their head and service to the new reality. But still, most of them are too spoiled at this point probably.
Well, will see, interesting development in any case. As others have said, street, online, strip clubs, and casa rosters might improve. Even the centro hos service and roster should improve as well, since they won't be able to fall back on poblado now.I'm certainly not an expert on the park. But from what I could see. A ton of those girls were not getting action. I was there for a few hours and saw the same girls making laps. There were so many more girls than guys.
I left around 12:30 am though. But it seemed to me that a lot of them were not making a lot of money. But I guess if you get 2 x guys per week that way it's still good money. But it seemed like the girls in Tantra in Bogota getting 10+ guys per day would be making more money. But. Also fucking 10+ guys per day. Which is a trade off.
I don't really have a point. But it seemed like the girls were way over priced and there were so many more guys and there was no way a lot of those girls were getting regular clients. Plus. They are not making money when they are walking around for 3+ hours.
Escort economics. I am sure one of you has a PhD.
I Agree, this environment has the potential to create a new place, not lleras or Centro. Perhaps like a Superclub like Help was in Rio in the 90's and 2000's. I think Farenheight was like that in itagui but never on a grande scale. Someone is going to want to make money and you aren't going to stop people selling P on a dime.Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't something similar happen recently in Cartagena where the mayor there prohibited sex work in the area around the clock tower and all the chicas just had to move outside of the area where sex work was prohibited?
So most likely they will just move further down Calle 10 until they are outside of the area that Fico has designated around Lleras and parque el poblado. They will most likely just move further to the east or west or maybe back to that mayorista area of Itagui that was being discussed a cpl weeks ago.
This is not to bring down tourism. It's more about catching pedophiles. I see so many guys who are posting about 18-19 year olds and meanwhile they're prob in their 50's and 60's. Girls are using their friends seedulas and fake ids.
The Colombian government knows their rep is taking a hit with the druggings so they're trying to throw it back in the faces of other countries saying you're sending working girl mongers and pedos here so we're going to crack down and arrest those gringos just to justify some of the stuff that's going on.Weird justification. I'm sure a very SIGNIFICANT amount of tourism income are said gringos and sex tourists xD.
Hear that guys? We have been informed by Mr. Know-it-all that there are only 5 or less gringos in the Centro area. Good to know. Thanks so much.I think there is truth in that statement. You have tp be pretty hardcore to be hanging out in El Centro. It's scary at night too.
Is anyone else receiving an unusually high number of friend requests from ladies on Facebook? Within the past week, I've received numerous requests every day. They appear to be legitimate ladies with a history of posts and numerous photos. Usually, I may get one request a week and most are from people who just created a Facebook profile.I went through a stretch like that a few years ago, getting 10-20 friend requests per day. Eventually it returned to normal.
LoveItHere
04-03-24, 09:51
I think there is truth in that statement. You have tp be pretty hardcore to be hanging out in El Centro. It's scary at night too.There are at least 50 foreigners nearly every day in Centro (not so much Sunday). Look at the Youtube videos. There is a regular bench that several "rats" sit at least 3-4 times every week starting around 3:00 when the sun is not on them. There is 5 guys right there on that one bench. I was there during the covid lockdown and there were 4 of us foreigners in one hotel near the church at Centro when there were very few tourists what so ever. True, do not walk Centro after 8:30-9:00 pm.
The real question is why did they release him and allow him to leave Colombia if they had in fact found him in his hotel room with two 12 and 13 year old girls?You can only go by the details reported by the local media and public officials. I mean who really knows what the actually details are depending on whether you trust media here. Judging on how they treat deceased or scolpomined gringos, It doesn't seem like any mongers are held in a favorable light like, as if we're expendable. I doubt they have due process here like they do in other first world countries. What if someone's FB arrangements start out looking 30 or more and something total different shows up like a girl a day shy of her 18th birthday. Are you even going to get a chance to say a word while theyslap cuffs on you or are they going to make an example out you regardless of the circumstances. I mean if he's guilty hopefully he gets everything he deserves. Hopefully they don't put us all in the same pot at least for political reasons.
Exoticspirit
04-03-24, 12:13
I'm certainly not an expert on the park. But from what I could see. A ton of those girls were not getting action. I was there for a few hours and saw the same girls making laps. There were so many more girls than guys.
I left around 12:30 am though. But it seemed to me that a lot of them were not making a lot of money. But I guess if you get 2 x guys per week that way it's still good money. But it seemed like the girls in Tantra in Bogota getting 10+ guys per day would be making more money. But. Also fucking 10+ guys per day. Which is a trade off.
I don't really have a point. But it seemed like the girls were way over priced and there were so many more guys and there was no way a lot of those girls were getting regular clients. Plus. They are not making money when they are walking around for 3+ hours.
Escort economics. I am sure one of you has a PhD.Perhaps this might result in more Colombian girls working in Costa Rica, Panama, St Maarten etc where rates there are higher and are generally safer too than in Colombia.
The market they were operating is changing and 50-100 mil is better than 0 mil. It's not relevant how much they ask or have been getting, what's relevant how much they can get now.
They would be well advised to start wearing those plastic COVID face guards to protect against spit of centro mongers laughing in their faces hearing 250 mil quotes.
Most of these girls would be probably bitching / unhappy / reminiscing about good'ol poblado days and how she used to fuck for much more and how the john should be grateful for her charging 50-100 mil now etc, so thanks but not thanks from me anyway in most cases, at least not until they adjust their head and service to the new reality. But still, most of them are too spoiled at this point probably.
Well, will see, interesting development in any case. As others have said, street, online, strip clubs, and casa rosters might improve. Even the centro hos service and roster should improve as well, since they won't be able to fall back on poblado now.While there is some overlap, most of the girls in Poblado are not working in El Centro and will never work in El Centro for 50 mil. They are smart enough to understand the market in El Centro and would not ask for 250 mil in El Centro. But they will look for different ways to attract the same clients and will find them. Or as someone said, they will travel overseas to Costa Rica, Mexico or if they can, United States or Europe. They know their worth to foreigners and foreigners are willing to pay them more than El Centro girls if they are the type of girls that foreigners want. I rarely see the type of girls that I like in El Centro.
For example, lets say you are a plumber and you normally charge $150 and you think you are a good plumber. Business is slow and then a guy calls you up and says I will pay you $10 to fix my pipes. Now, you may say, $10 is better than nothing but I can assure you that the plumber would rather pass on the job than take an amount that he thinks is insulting due to pride and his thoughts on the value of what he offers. Most high end girls in Poblado will think the same way. If they are normally charging $50 or more, they aren't going to take $10.
But for now, actually, if you read some personal reports elsewhere, things haven't changed that much and the girls still hang around in Poblado.
Authorities believe he is in hiding in the United States. As you stated, he left Colombia and his last known whereabouts is the United States. At 36 years old, if he doesn't try to leave the US and he has enough resources to get by for a couple of years he should be able to work his way into gigs that don't require stringent background checks. His prospects are clearly much worse than they were before this incident.
I don't think he is in Colombia. I read that the police released him and he immediately left the country. Of course, if they put him on Interpol, the places he can escape to are limited. My bet is that the Colombian authorities will not pursue him.
I'm pretty sure it is not illegal to be in a hotel room or anywhere else with people of that age. So, assuming he was not caught red handed and assuming the girls did not lodge a complaint, Colombia could conceivably have been on the wrong side of a habeas corpus claim if they locked him up. I've seen conflicting reports about whether he was detained. I haven't yet seen information about the basis of reported arrest warrants. The local media are characteristically over the top when a foreigner is implicated in any major crime. I think a good way to understand the reporting is to compare to transportation deaths. Child abuse committed by Colombians would be the equivalent of automobile accident deaths, something that happens several time a day every day. By comparison foreigner involvement in that sort of crime would be the equivalent of airplane crash deaths. Think of how airplane crash deaths are reported versus automobile accident deaths are reported. One is a very rare event and the other is so frequent it doesn't make the news unless there is an extraordinary angle, like the Colombian who was almost lynched in Medellin this week over rumors he abused his very young stepdaughter.
The real question is why did they release him and allow him to leave Colombia if they had in fact found him in his hotel room with two 12 and 13 year old girls?
There are at least 50 foreigners nearly every day in Centro (not so much Sunday). Look at the Youtube videos. There is a regular bench that several "rats" sit at least 3-4 times every week starting around 3:00 when the sun is not on them. There is 5 guys right there on that one bench. I was there during the covid lockdown and there were 4 of us foreigners in one hotel near the church at Centro when there were very few tourists what so ever. True, do not walk Centro after 8:30-9:00 pm.50 might be a bit much. Depending on the time of day will make a difference too. When I go to Centro I usually go earlier in day like 11 am - 2 pm and there definitely would not be 50 gringos around the Botero / Veracruz / Cra53 area at that time of day. Maybe later in the afternoon and evening there are more but 50 is a bit much I would say from my observation that there are about 20-25 gringos mongering in the area in comparison to hundreds of locals out and about.
I know about 2 pm onward until about 7 pm there are more chicas out and around 5 pm there will often be so many people trying to use hotel Botero real that there will literally be a line and you have to wait a while to get a room, I hate that and try to avoid that so that's one of the reasons I like to go earlier in the day.
I agree that Sundays are slow and there are less chicas as well as less gringos and less local mongers basically less people in general and many of the cheap restaurants are closed on Sundays but I have gone on Sundays and found some gems that I hadn't spotted on weekdays so you never know even the slow day may be a good day.
Gabacho.
JohnnieCash
04-03-24, 19:36
If they are normally charging $50 or more, they aren't going to take $10.That wouldn't be the same job really, the general MO in centro is a covered rato for up to half hour or 1 pop (whichever comes first, some are done in like 10 minutes so quite an easy money), I assume they don't charge 250 mil for half hour of that in Poblado, so that's not really a like-for-like comparison. Theoretically with various extras she could get around 100 mil in Centro out of 1 client, which is getting close to half of Poblado rate and considering that apparently (so I hear) most of them don't find a client every day there is not such a dramatic income difference. Also a lot them can't (or don't want) just pick up and go abroad as if it's nothing, have family, life and friends here, costs of living are different as well.
Well, we can speculate, the time will tell, Poblado is big, rich tourist will still be staying there, so probably they'll just move outside of banned area and try intercept the clients en route to Provenza / Lleras.
Thinking about going to Medellin. How is the Parque lleras area now? Thanks.
LoveItHere69
04-03-24, 22:24
50 might be a bit much.I have stayed at Centro zero, across the street from Centro, and within 3 blocks of Centro. Last time there was for 6 months and left December 2023. I came and went twice a day on average for 2-3 hours per day. 50 foreigners most days. There are the rats that park on the bench at times for 5+ hours, guys that visit for 1-2 hours, and the guys that simply do a walk through a few times and leave who largely want to see what the fuss is about and give up hunting in less than one hour. Granted I estimate that 40% are the less than one hour variety so you will not see most of them. I notice because the time I spent there I could tell the regulars who many may think were locals. Many you may think are tourists are mongering but very lazily who do not know what they are doing and largely are the 2 week Poblado Warriors just sorta passing through.
LoveItHere69
04-03-24, 22:26
Thinking about going to Medellin. How is the Parque lleras area now? Thanks.Have you not read about the mayor in the latest news and that has so many posts on the last 3 pages of this site? I think you should stay home.
Wow, Medellin is not looking good.
https://youtu.be/FykjYKokuKU?si=k03DehlaoXOpXhRV
Thinking about going to Medellin. How is the Parque lleras area now? Thanks.There's protests in Lleras now. All the pro clubs have signs from locals plastered on them.
ElSexoChino7
04-04-24, 02:45
Saw a video today of the protests in LLeras. One of those are locals kicking out regular tourists in Pergamino while having their coffee. If this doesn't tell you anything idk what does. Looks like it's the end of Medellin now for everyone. I really hope they are sticking to this until the end without regrets. Lots of people went unemployed and businesses shut down. Gentrification in full effect. I still love Medellin though. It just needed a long break. They will surely miss the tourists money from now on.
I have stayed at Centro zero, across the street from Centro, and within 3 blocks of Centro. Last time there was for 6 months and left December 2023. I came and went twice a day on average for 2-3 hours per day. 50 foreigners most days. There are the rats that park on the bench at times for 5+ hours, guys that visit for 1-2 hours, and the guys that simply do a walk through a few times and leave who largely want to see what the fuss is about and give up hunting in less than one hour. Granted I estimate that 40% are the less than one hour variety so you will not see most of them. I notice because the time I spent there I could tell the regulars who many may think were locals. Many you may think are tourists are mongering but very lazily who do not know what they are doing and largely are the 2 week Poblado Warriors just sorta passing through.Then you must have seen me before. The bald headed guy with goatee always sporting Alaska hoodies even if it was warm out. Always fucking and getting out quick then coming back after eating lunch and fucking again LOL. Good times. Love that shit.
I've only been gone since the 25th but I already miss my beloved Colombia.
Calm down man, you are going to give yourself a heart attack. The merchants are protesting because their earning power is being clipped for six months and they were offered no compensation. My guess is the mayor will negotiate and pull back some of the restrictions. If you aren't comfortable you should stay away and let everyone else decide for themselves. There is no need to stress over this.
Saw a video today of the protests in LLeras. One of those are locals kicking out regular tourists in Pergamino while having their coffee. If this doesn't tell you anything idk what does. Looks like it's the end of Medellin now for everyone. I really hope they are sticking to this until the end without regrets. Lots of people went unemployed and businesses shut down. Gentrification in full effect. I still love Medellin though. It just needed a long break. They will surely miss the tourists money from now on.
What do the signs say, "welcome to Medellin"?
There's protests in Lleras now. All the pro clubs have signs from locals plastered on them.
Mr Enternational
04-04-24, 03:40
For example, lets say you are a plumber and you normally charge $150 and you think you are a good plumber. Business is slow and then a guy calls you up and says I will pay you $10 to fix my pipes. Now, you may say, $10 is better than nothing but I can assure you that the plumber would rather pass on the job than take an amount that he thinks is insulting due to pride and his thoughts on the value of what he offers. Most high end girls in Poblado will think the same way. If they are normally charging $50 or more, they aren't going to take $10.A plumber has sunk costs and overhead and it is likely to cost him over $10 to even get to the job. All a chick with a pussy has to do is show up. Most of the time they even make you pay to get them there and back home. So the plumber has to subtract the cost of doing business from the $10 (which could easily be more than the $10 payment), while to the hooker the $10 is pure profit.
InsolentSpike
04-04-24, 03:57
There was this dude on here InsolentSpike that was trying to hook me up with one of his chicas named Alejandra who was a 50 mil Centro girl and she was trying to say she charged 250 mil and only worked in Poblado (needless to say I told the bi*ch to kick rocks)..Sorry about that bro. She asked me if I had friends and I told her I did. Didn't know she would pull that shit.
Sorry about that bro. She asked me if I had friends and I told her I did. Didn't know she would pull that shit.No problem bro. Sorry I blocked you last year.
Calm down man, you are going to give yourself a heart attack. The merchants are protesting because their earning power is being clipped for six months and they were offered no compensation. My guess is the mayor will negotiate and pull back some of the restrictions. If you aren't comfortable you should stay away and let everyone else decide for themselves. There is no need to stress over this.I could be wrong. But they have been trying to clean up Lleras for years now. Especially the prostitution. It seemed like they're just harassing tourists because they don't want gringos there since gringos are the reason the locals price of living has inflated.
Sorry about that bro. She asked me if I had friends and I told her I did. Didn't know she would pull that shit.This type of thing is common. Have a girl who never charges me, no rush, is happy to bring another girl, no charge and will stay all night if I want. She's a sometimes working girl, but always has other ventures to make money. No, she's not my girlfriend. I'll help her out from time to time, usually small amounts, 200 mil or less.
I've offered her number to a few friends, but each time she wants to charge 300 k or more and has all kinds of rules.
I booked my ticket to Medellin, April 10th to April 15th.
JackTaggart
04-04-24, 06:56
A plumber has sunk costs and overhead and it is likely to cost him over $10 to even get to the job. All a chick with a pussy has to do is show up. Most of the time they even make you pay to get them there and back home. So the plumber has to subtract the cost of doing business from the $10 (which could easily be more than the $10 payment), while to the hooker the $10 is pure profit.I agree. But. I have also learned that hooker math does not always make sense. Sometimes it works in my favor. Other times it does not.
I agree with everything you said about Lleras and the cleanup efforts. The video in question however has been widely misrepresented. What really happened had nothing to do with the tourists. The protesting merchants were gesturing to the shop owners to shut their doors and join the protest March. Pergamino is not of course independently owned so it wasn't a choice the employees at the location could make.
I could be wrong. But they have been trying to clean up Lleras for years now. Especially the prostitution. It seemed like they're just harassing tourists because they don't want gringos there since gringos are the reason the locals price of living has inflated.
Exoticspirit
04-04-24, 12:59
I could be wrong. But they have been trying to clean up Lleras for years now. Especially the prostitution. It seemed like they're just harassing tourists because they don't want gringos there since gringos are the reason the locals price of living has inflated.Wonder how the Lleras cleanup will impact casas like New Life and Energy plus clubs like La Isla and Loutron in terms of availability and rates. Any guesses?
Wonder how the Lleras cleanup will impact casas like New Life and Energy plus clubs like La Isla and Loutron in terms of availability and rates. Any guesses?I have been guilty of this too but we should focus on what is actually going on as opposed what I think may happen. What you think may happen is just mindless chit chat. What is actually happening is useful information. Instead of speculating, we just see what is happening in the next few weeks and some can report on the reality of the situation. I wouldn't panic over what may happen and just watch what is happening.
I could be wrong. But they have been trying to clean up Lleras for years now. Especially the prostitution. It seemed like they're just harassing tourists because they don't want gringos there since gringos are the reason the locals price of living has inflated.Gringos have nothing to do with locals cost of living. They are a drop in the bucket as far as the economy. Total tourism is not even much of a factor, and gringos are only a part of that.
The populace are upset with the sex tourism industry in a big way. And the politicians are listening. And acting. So the public sees male tourists to Colombia as depraved predators and politicians are doing something about it. A 6 month emergency order making prostitution illegal in certain areas is their response.
But there are others, especially in the affected areas, who see their businesses being destroyed if the tourists (non mongers as well as mongers) are chased away. Hence the protest by businesses. While this law does not target tourists at all really, it is in response to the perceptions around sex tourism, and so don't expect to be popular.
ElSexoChino7
04-04-24, 15:08
I booked my ticket to Medellin, April 10th to April 15th.You should be fine if you keep it on the low. Stick to casas, online or strip clubs.
One of the YouTuber Flyboy went live last night to give update on lleras and it seems like some or most businesses are back open again. Some girls are hanging around in Calle 10. Gusto's is back on business.
Timestamp: 1:57:36.
https://www.youtube.com/live/WaREdzpHVKk?si=pKVIjKivf7zj1mj1
JohnnieCash
04-04-24, 15:22
locals kicking out regular tourists in PergaminoVideo: https://www.tiktok.com/@la_verdad_medellin/video/7353825957767171334
Strange times.
Full disclosure, I did not watch the youtube video mentioned. I actively avoid that sort of content because I find it neither informative nor entertaining. History shows online promotion helps no one other than the content creator using people's images to earn money based on clicks they are able to attract. It's one of several reasons I avoid places where they congregate. I am already spending more time than I want talking about this stuff with everyone who knows I live in Colombia. The last thing any of us needs is to have to explain why you appear in a video (background or foreground) with some guy talking about what goes on in Parque Lleras. ChinoSexo, I agree that it's a good idea to keep a low profile. I don't think it should take global media attention to remind us of that.
You should be fine if you keep it on the low. Stick to casas, online or strip clubs.
One of the YouTuber Flyboy went live last night to give update on lleras and it seems like some or most businesses are back open again. Some girls are hanging around in Calle 10. Gusto's is back on business.
Timestamp: 1:57:36.
https://www.youtube.com/live/WaREdzpHVKk?si=pKVIjKivf7zj1mj1
No one was kicking anyone out of the coffee shop. Protesting merchants were imploring the Pergamino store to shut its doors and join the protest.
Video: https://www.tiktok.com/@la_verdad_medellin/video/7353825957767171334
Strange times.
Full disclosure, I did not watch the youtube video mentioned. I actively avoid that sort of content because I find it neither informative nor entertaining. History shows online promotion helps no one other than the content creator using people's images to earn money based on clicks they are able to attract. It's one of several reasons I avoid places where they congregate. I am already spending more time than I want talking about this stuff with everyone who knows I live in Colombia. The last thing any of us needs is to have to explain why you appear in a video (background or foreground) with some guy talking about what goes on in Parque Lleras. ChinoSexo, I agree that it's a good idea to keep a low profile. I don't think it should take global media attention to remind us of that.Agree 100%. The youtube creep cams and youtubers in general have contributed to the demise of places like Sosua, Medellin and Cartagena.
You should be fine if you keep it on the low. Stick to casas, online or strip clubs.
One of the YouTuber Flyboy went live last night to give update on lleras and it seems like some or most businesses are back open again. Some girls are hanging around in Calle 10. Gusto's is back on business.
Timestamp: 1:57:36.
https://www.youtube.com/live/WaREdzpHVKk?si=pKVIjKivf7zj1mj1Yeah, I saw his video.
DonCarlos1234
04-05-24, 02:14
Child abuse committed by Colombians would be the equivalent of automobile accident deaths, something that happens several time a day every day.It's still child abuse! Sad and perhaps true. I have heard and seen photos of 14 - 16 year olds doing that. Not knowing what I could do with the info. I asked not to be even shown the photos. Excuses about legality for marriage at 13. WTF? An inexcusable subject.
InsolentSpike
04-05-24, 02:53
No problem bro. Sorry I blocked you last year.No worries bro. I owe a lot of my success at Botero to you.
InsolentSpike
04-05-24, 02:55
I've offered her number to a few friends, but each time she wants to charge 300 k or more and has all kinds of rules.Yeah man I felt terrible about that. She treated me well and tried to fuck over my buddy.
GeorgeCarta22
04-05-24, 05:41
You should be fine if you keep it on the low. Stick to casas, online or strip clubs.
One of the YouTuber Flyboy went live last night to give update on lleras and it seems like some or most businesses are back open again. Some girls are hanging around in Calle 10. Gusto's is back on business.
Timestamp: 1:57:36.
https://www.youtube.com/live/WaREdzpHVKk?si=pKVIjKivf7zj1mj1I know this is very unpopular opinion but I really enjoy gustos. I love the club atmosphere of picking up chicas.
I booked my ticket to Medellin, April 10th to April 15th.Cancel this trip & go to Bogota if ya want to have fun.
I know this is very unpopular opinion but I really enjoy gustos. I love the club atmosphere of picking up chicas.Even up until 2019 it was an awesome spot. Prices at the time were 550 mil for the large booth with a one bottle min included in the price.
Many non pros or part time pros. Packed on weekends but not wall to wall packed. I met a lawyer an artist a student and ironically one of the bang bros girls from Colombia there. Her name was Samantha Lopez.
Then my last two trips during the pandemic I saw it flooded with Facebook bello girls and fat vennies. The vibe completely changed. The booth was now 1. 5 mil min. The girls were obvious pros. And this is with all the passport bro movement. Then other clubs got popping too. Glow and Lleras park never had any business. But with the passport bro movement Lleras for me was a no go zone. The girls were not high end looking and trying to charge 2-300 usd when they're only worth 200 mil at best and some would have to pay me to fuck them.
So when I complain about the good old days being gone it's that part. Fb and bello hoodrats have flooded every avenue of where tourists go. Lleras La 70 Laureles and recently they're even going to places like La Chula Dubai and Bora Bora clubs looking for clients. It's just annoying. I went to to Dubai disco with my GF last year and I saw 3 popular fb girls there playing like they're all innocent lmao.
Enter The V
04-05-24, 12:07
I booked my ticket to Medellin, April 10th to April 15th.Go to Venezuela instead.
Go to Venezuela instead.Too late. Maybe next time.
What is going rate for 1 hour of fun with chica?
I agree. But. I have also learned that hooker math does not always make sense. Sometimes it works in my favor. Other times it does not.Hooker math fails to factor-in supply and demand.
Hooker math fails to factor-in supply and demand.Many of them, and also many business people in Colombia and Costa Rica, use an inverted theory of supply and demand. If supply stays the same and demand falls, then they have to charge more to make up for the loss of demand.
Exoticspirit
04-06-24, 01:56
Many of them, and also many business people in Colombia and Costa Rica, use an inverted theory of supply and demand. If supply stays the same and demand falls, then they have to charge more to make up for the loss of demand.Apparently that's what most Colombian girls do in Jaco Costa Rica. When it's close to the end of the night and they still outnumber the guys there 10 to 1, they still refuse to accept lower rates knowing darn well that they will end up with zero business. This is when their self prides defeat them making them think that their pussies are made of gold.
Look up the story of this guy named Eyvin Hernndez to see what happens to guys who go to Venezuela illegally.He claims he was pulled in against his will from the colombian side. But honestly, do you think the outcome would have been any different if he had the proper visa when he had arrived? You're talking about a corrupt authoritarian government that does not respect the rule of law. They will most likely wrongfully detain more Americans so they can trade them for the release of more criminals especially now that Biden is open to prisoner swapping.
What is going rate for 1 hour of fun with chica?It is like asking what is the price of a working girl in your city? The answer is, of course, it depends on the type of girl. There is no one going rate. There are casa girls, El Centro street girls, online escort website girls, Facebook girls, Seeking girls, Park Lleras nightclub girls, El Centro strip club girls, Poblado street girls and so on. And then with each category, each girl is different. There are older girls, younger girls, very attractive girls, average looking girls, chubby girls, and slim petite girls, for example. Girls who are young and look like models will ask for a different price than older average looking chubby girls in each category. Girls are not like a product you buy in the store because every girl is different.
The forum has a lot of posts about the general cost of each category of girls but it is just a ballpark number.
Manizales911
04-06-24, 16:08
Wonder how the Lleras cleanup will impact casas like New Life and Energy plus clubs like La Isla and Loutron in terms of availability and rates. Any guesses?There is no "cleanup". I am in El Poblado and have been in Parque Lleras the last two nights, packed with girls. There are more cops and all bars and restaurants have to close at 1:00 but are opening earlier, that's it.
I know this is very unpopular opinion but I really enjoy gustos. I love the club atmosphere of picking up chicas.I like clubs, but getting older and try to avoid clip joints, Ill try to give a good report in a few weeks, first time back since 2018, appreciate all the shared info.
Exoticspirit
04-07-24, 14:27
I like clubs, but getting older and try to avoid clip joints, Ill try to give a good report in a few weeks, first time back since 2018, appreciate all the shared info.Me as well as I would much rather be in a less noisy atmosphere to meet the ladies. This is why I'll try to stick to daytime casas and at night pull from the bar at Hotel M (Mansion) avoiding the strip clubs and discos.
JohnnyWishBone
04-07-24, 22:38
What is going rate for 1 hour of fun with chica?Read past posts. Lazy.
Mojo Bandit
04-08-24, 00:16
There is no "cleanup". I am in El Poblado and have been in Parque Lleras the last two nights, packed with girls. There are more cops and all bars and restaurants have to close at 1:00 but are opening earlier, that's it.The same guy that posted the video about the closing if Parque Lleras posted another video 2 days laters saying it was back open. I am not posting a link because I do not think these YouTubers tha mention anything related to mongering are good for the scene at all. They bring to much attention.
There are some Youtubers that have posted really good vieos of neighborhoods in Medellin as well as Bogota and Cartagena. One that I think is the best because they do more showing and not talking is Explorando. They have done. No talking or jumping on camera just video tours that show the lay of the land. I think this Youtuber might even be deaf and unable to talk. Once they posted a video of theor tour of El Centro in Medellin and ran text across talking about how they were watching a fight go down and a group of people squeezed up on them and stole their camera and backback and they were unable to yell out becuase of a handicap. So no annoying talking in their videos and the quality is excellent. The channel has videos of our favorite neighborhoods in Medellin like El Centro and El Poblado as well as Neighborhoods in Cartagena like the clock tower and Santa Fe in Bogota.
https://www.youtube.com/@Explorando1
I read that the 1 am Closure and other enforcement are for six months. It feels like the mayor did it to do something and is waiting for the public outrage to die down.
The same guy that posted the video about the closing if Parque Lleras posted another video 2 days laters saying it was back open. I am not posting a link because I do not think these YouTubers tha mention anything related to mongering are good for the scene at all. They bring to much attention.
There are some Youtubers that have posted really good vieos of neighborhoods in Medellin as well as Bogota and Cartagena. One that I think is the best because they do more showing and not talking is Explorando. They have done. No talking or jumping on camera just video tours that show the lay of the land. I think this Youtuber might even be deaf and unable to talk. Once they posted a video of theor tour of El Centro in Medellin and ran text across talking about how they were watching a fight go down and a group of people squeezed up on them and stole their camera and backback and they were unable to yell out becuase of a handicap. So no annoying talking in their videos and the quality is excellent. The channel has videos of our favorite neighborhoods in Medellin like El Centro and El Poblado as well as Neighborhoods in Cartagena like the clock tower and Santa Fe in Bogota.
https://www.youtube.com/@Explorando1
It is like asking what is the price of a working girl in your city? The answer is, of course, it depends on the type of girl. There is no one going rate. Most of you guys are really Cheap Charlies. The biggest factor on what price a woman quotes is YOU!
First of all, when you try to under bid what they say they think you do not have much money! And no Money means No Fun!
Secondly, have you looked in the mirror recently? The women give a high price when they really do not want to be with you!
Third, they are probably holding out for some decent, friendly guy like me, who wants to chat them up a little! Not just like buying a used car! Some of you rude guys are at a Meat Market and trying to negotiate everything. The women get turned off. They want some slow, smooth talker like me. Buy them a drink, find out where they are from, before you tell them you want to slam them every which way with your Dick!
Fourth, put yourself in their place. You are some smelly ass foreignor, going to be gone tomorrow, no chance to repeat, so they are getting all they can with one shot!
Finally, most of you old farts with no teeth, never shaved in a week, think you are special attitude. You think they girls really want your limp dicks when they can have 12 inches of Grade AAA cock? You small dicked men probably would have to stick it in 3 times to give them 12 inches of cock, and they are not impressed!
So remember, if you get a high price from the woman, its probably YOU. You are a loser, they are not interested, and shape up! Its not about your skill as a Negotiator, its about whether you take a bath! LOL.
There is no "cleanup". I am in El Poblado and have been in Parque Lleras the last two nights, packed with girls. There are more cops and all bars and restaurants have to close at 1:00 but are opening earlier, that's it.Thats good to hear.
BlueChange
04-09-24, 01:24
Karen 180 K +50 K oral naturale.
304 4386897.
https://masajistaspaisas.com/masajista/karenlinda/
Or.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/linda-muy-sensual-apasionada-y-ansiosa-por-satisfacerte-ampid-wcrmn
Back in town on the grind, all of my regulars were booked so I decided to try something new.
She was at that one hotel / aparment in Laurles near unicentro that all the prepagos work out of. Been this way over a decade.
Anyway, I see her early like 10:30 am so I'm first customer (she usually starts at 11).
I arrive and have to walk up a couple flights of stairs as the elevator never works here.
Open the door and I see a very light cinnamon white girl with autum colored hair. Her face is about 28,29, not bad but nothing ti write home about.
She has on rainbow multi color VS fishneting covering her whole body but sticking out are her hard little brown nipples. Her implants while big are very soft. She gives me a little peck and we go to the bedroom. The bedroom is bare with her little boom box in the corner. I give her the bread and she starts the music. She starts to dance for me. She obviously works as a stripper as she has all the moves. Lots more kissing just little pecks but my johnson is hard and I really just want to fuck.
I suck her tits a little and she gets me on the bed and gets me all disroped. Has some tats and also has those little holes where she got lipo on her stomach so she is pretty much all plastic minus her ass which is real and pretty plump. She goes to get her wet naps to wipe my coock off so she can suck it. Now here is the thing, I can tell how good the head is going to be just by how long they hold onto that wet nap. I swear to fuck, she is one of these squeegy blow job oral natural girls. Always fucking cleaning it off with the wet nap every 5 sucks. Like it feels good but to keep having to wipe sort of takes all the fun out of it. In the future I'm going to ask if they use the wet nap to wipe it the entire time or they just go straight suck mode after a once over.
After about 5 min of sucking she puts the rubber on and slides it into her tight little slit. She has a homer simpson innie pussy and it is fun to fuck those. She really likes riding on top and knows how to do it without you slipping out. We go to missionaire and do a little more kissing and she really loves it when I rub her clit. I do it more and want to pop. , I tell her I want her to just storke it, I ask if she does facials or boca, she says no but will let me pop on her tits. I do and because I was soo backed up I give her a huge 9 ropper. She is impressed and then we go to shower. I'm cool, I get dressed and leave.
She was ok but I don't think ill see her again. UMMV take care! And lets bring back some review please!!
Update from DC Rob about that dude caught at the hotel in El Poblado with the two underage girls and the Hotel shutting down indefinitely.
https://youtu.be/McIbmF6vQho?si=FsmxzaK-gIBgqN_z
Follow Along.
Karen 180 K +50 K oral naturale.
After about 5 min of sucking she puts the rubber on and slides it into her tight little slit. She has a homer simpson innie pussy and it is fun to fuck those. She really likes riding on top and knows how to do it without you slipping out. We go to missionaire and do a little more kissing and she really loves it when I rub her clit. I do it more and want to pop. , I tell her I want her to just storke it, I ask if she does facials or boca, she says no but will let me pop on her tits. I do and because I was soo backed up I give her a huge 9 ropper. She is impressed and then we go to shower. I'm cool, I get dressed and leave.
She was ok but I don't think ill see her again. UMMV take care! And lets bring back some review please!!Certainly very curvy & blonde but that wet-nap deal sounds terrible.
Medellin Scandal: Arrest Warrant for Livingston & Gotham Hotel Closure. In a shocking development, an arrest warrant has been issued against Timothy Alan Livingston, involved in the exploitation case at the Gotham hotel in El Poblado, Medellin. Authorities are pursuing Interpol's assistance with a blue notice. Meanwhile, Gotham Hotel has announced its voluntary and permanent closure due to the scandal, admitting failures in preventing minors' entry.
BlueChange
04-09-24, 14:52
Certainly very curvy & blonde but that wet-nap deal sounds terrible.It happends more offten then you realize, its mostly the ones that don't do CIM or CIF and they clean up pre-cum. It kills the vibe a bit.
DiscoverFL
04-09-24, 18:50
Medellin Scandal: Arrest Warrant for Livingston & Gotham Hotel Closure. In a shocking development, an arrest warrant has been issued against Timothy Alan Livingston, involved in the exploitation case at the Gotham hotel in El Poblado, Medellin. Authorities are pursuing Interpol's assistance with a blue notice. Meanwhile, Gotham Hotel has announced its voluntary and permanent closure due to the scandal, admitting failures in preventing minors' entry.Blue Notice: To collect additional information about a person's identity, location or activities in relation to a criminal investigation.
Red Notice: To seek the location and arrest of persons wanted for prosecution or to serve a sentence.
AmorPorFavor
04-09-24, 20:30
Most of you guys are really Cheap Charlies. The biggest factor on what price a woman quotes is YOU!
First of all, when you try to under bid what they say they think you do not have much money! And no Money means No Fun!
Secondly, have you looked in the mirror recently? The women give a high price when they really do not want to be with you!
Third, they are probably holding out for some decent, friendly guy like me, who wants to chat them up a little! Not just like buying a used car! Some of you rude guys are at a Meat Market and trying to negotiate everything. The women get turned off. They want some slow, smooth talker like me. Buy them a drink, find out where they are from, before you tell them you want to slam them every which way with your Dick!
Fourth, put yourself in their place. You are some smelly ass foreignor, going to be gone tomorrow, no chance to repeat, so they are getting all they can with one shot!
Finally, most of you old farts with no teeth, never shaved in a week, think you are special attitude. You think they girls really want your limp dicks when they can have 12 inches of Grade AAA cock? You small dicked men probably would have to stick it in 3 times to give them 12 inches of cock, and they are not impressed!
So remember, if you get a high price from the woman, its probably YOU. You are a loser, they are not interested, and shape up! Its not about your skill as a Negotiator, its about whether you take a bath! LOL.This is how you can get real GFE, not fake monger GFE where just DFK and BBJ passes for a GFE experience. My girls can't wait for me to return and they give me long dates and overnights in my apartment with unlimited BBFS. What's the old saying, treat a hooker like a lady and a lady like a hooker?
Who or what is DC Rob?
Update from DC Rob about that dude caught at the hotel in El Poblado with the two underage girls and the Hotel shutting down indefinitely.
https://youtu.be/McIbmF6vQho?si=FsmxzaK-gIBgqN_z
Follow Along.
Who or what is DC Rob?A YouTuber who covers news from Medellin and Colombia as a whole and translates the news from Minuto30, BluRadio, El Colombiano, etc into English for English speakers to stay informed about what's happening on the ground in Medellin and other parts of Colombia.
Who or what is DC Rob?Basically, he is a youtuber that talks about travel and don't think he's a monger or least he implies he's not one, but tends to cover Medellin fatalities and scolpomine incidents related mostly to mongering. Infact, that's all he seems cover. But its very informative about what's happening in Colombian, mainly medellin. Of course, I don't know if your being sarcastic, I figured you would know.
Naked Gunz
04-10-24, 04:17
This is how you can get real GFE, not fake monger GFE where just DFK and BBJ passes for a GFE experience. My girls can't wait for me to return and they give me long dates and overnights in my apartment with unlimited BBFS. What's the old saying, treat a hooker like a lady and a lady like a hooker?Really women are the same everywhere. They equate being a beauty with wearing a ton of makeup. I stop dealing with women that will stain the fuck out of my sheets with makeup, that are online with pro, filtered photos in front of the Eiffel Tower. They are selfish lousy fucks that want to finesse you for whatever your good for paying. I stand by my lifelong decision to fuck a 10 body despite the face. Average girls that you fuck GOOD and LONG fall inline! They want that shit all the time. My crank gets about 10 x stronger knowing its about to be rewarded with sexy tits, tiny waist and a great ass- she could look like a pit bull, I don't care, just turn off the lights mofo!
Captain Solo
04-10-24, 16:38
Is now working with Colombian policia to prosecute pedophiles. HSI is the great white shark of LE in the US with vast resources and reach.
Guys with history of frequent travel to Colombia will be scrutinized and watched. In the news, couple guys arranged for sex with minors overseas. Their phone calls and emails were intercepted. HSI arrested them at the airport before departing. 20 to 30 years sentences.
https://www.financecolombia.com/two-us-citizens-arrested-for-the-sexual-exploitation-of-minors-in-colombia/#google_vignette.
In late February, the Metropolitan Police of Valle de Aburrá arrested a 48-year-old USA Citizen referred to as "El Quimico" in the town of Bello, Antioquia, following an investigation named "Operation Arcángel" that was supported by the USA Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and led to the arrest of several other foreign nationals accused of similar crimes.
Is now working with Colombian policia to prosecute pedophiles. HSI is the great white shark of LE in the US with vast resources and reach.
Guys with history of frequent travel to Colombia will be scrutinized and watched. In the news, couple guys arranged for sex with minors overseas. Their phone calls and emails were intercepted. HSI arrested them at the airport before departing. 20 to 30 years sentences.
https://www.financecolombia.com/two-us-citizens-arrested-for-the-sexual-exploitation-of-minors-in-colombia/#google_vignette.
In late February, the Metropolitan Police of Valle de Aburr arrested a 48-year-old USA Citizen referred to as "El Quimico" in the town of Bello, Antioquia, following an investigation named "Operation Arcngel" that was supported by the USA Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and led to the arrest of several other foreign nationals accused of similar crimes.A cleanup is long overdue. This will probably make it harder for regular tourists to get chica friendly Airbnbs but well worth it to chase away scum like these guys.
Guys who are doing this deserve all the punishment that comes their way. On the other hand, this seems like selective enforcement and deflection. The government wants to distract people to focus on foreigners. It's a very old playbook followed by regimes in ancient Rome, Nazi Germany, and more recently 2016 Washington DC. The motels in the suburbs of Medellin are full of Colombian guys like the one I posted about a few days ago. He got caught in the act with two pre-teens he picked up off the street in San Diego in a well known motel in La Estrella, the kind you drive into and shut the garage door behind you. They are purpose built for under the radar hijinks. The motel management called the police after the argument between him and the girls got so raucous it could not be ignored. I don't see even the least self aware sicko pedo from abroad being that extra. On a related note, the two girls involved in the Livingston affair in Provenza escaped from the adolescent care facility. They are getting little sympathy on Colombian social media. The Colombians know these girls, although very young, were not likely snatched from their parents' home while they were making tik tok dance videos.
A cleanup is long overdue. This will probably make it harder for regular tourists to get chica friendly Airbnbs but well worth it to chase away scum like these guys.
I don't watch videos about Medellin on youtube. I honestly had never heard of DC Rob until I began to see him cited here. I'm aware of that sort of content that promotes insider perspectives and danger tourism (I'll take you there so you don't have to go). I asked about DC Rob because I didn't know why he was being mentioned in the context of what happens in Medellin. Maybe it's natural to seek out vicarious experiences. I haven't owned a car in several years but I watch a lot of automotive content.
Basically, he is a youtuber that talks about travel and don't think he's a monger or least he implies he's not one, but tends to cover Medellin fatalities and scolpomine incidents related mostly to mongering. Infact, that's all he seems cover. But its very informative about what's happening in Colombian, mainly medellin. Of course, I don't know if your being sarcastic, I figured you would know.
He has to be adding more value than that. Anyone can translate that content with as few as two or three keystroke. As I write this I'm thinking that I might be wrong because I'm reminded of something that happened about 25 years ago in the Dominican Republic. I was sitting in a restaurant having breakfast when a TV show came on. It was a guy sitting behind a desk reading the front pages of the morning papers. The camera shot would show the newspaper headline while the guy read the front page and then switch to the newsreader until another newspaper would appear. I asked my tablemate to explain what I was seeing. She told me it was a very popular show because many people were illiterate or could not afford to buy newspapers. Newspapers were still a thing in those days. So maybe DC Rob is bringing something to his followers that they can't get on their own.
A YouTuber who covers news from Medellin and Colombia as a whole and translates the news from Minuto30, BluRadio, El Colombiano, etc into English for English speakers to stay informed about what's happening on the ground in Medellin and other parts of Colombia.
Exoticspirit
04-10-24, 19:45
Really women are the same everywhere. They equate being a beauty with wearing a ton of makeup. I stop dealing with women that will stain the fuck out of my sheets with makeup, that are online with pro, filtered photos in front of the Eiffel Tower. They are selfish lousy fucks that want to finesse you for whatever your good for paying. I stand by my lifelong decision to fuck a 10 body despite the face. Average girls that you fuck GOOD and LONG fall inline! They want that shit all the time. My crank gets about 10 x stronger knowing its about to be rewarded with sexy tits, tiny waist and a great ass- she could look like a pit bull, I don't care, just turn off the lights mofo!If you look at much of the Latin American culture, especially Colombia, women go big on makeup as already mentioned and fashion. What is not big there in general is fitness and that along with a pretty heavy cuisine has led to early obesity in much of the population. That's why you see Latino women get big real fast. If you look at videos comparing Parque Lleras and Centro to the mongering areas of Thailand and Philippines, you will see a striking difference in body shape and weight levels. Yes some of it is genetic but diet plays a major role too.
Who is going to tell her she should change her fuck alias so she doesn't put off gringos?
Karen 180 K +50 K oral naturale.
304 4386897.
https://masajistaspaisas.com/masajista/karenlinda/
Or.
https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/area-medellin/linda-muy-sensual-apasionada-y-ansiosa-por-satisfacerte-ampid-wcrmn
Back in town on the grind, all of my regulars were booked so I decided to try something new.
She was at that one hotel / aparment in Laurles near unicentro that all the prepagos work out of. Been this way over a decade.
Anyway, I see her early like 10:30 am so I'm first customer (she usually starts at 11).
I arrive and have to walk up a couple flights of stairs as the elevator never works here.
Open the door and I see a very light cinnamon white girl with autum colored hair. Her face is about 28,29, not bad but nothing ti write home about.
She has on rainbow multi color VS fishneting covering her whole body but sticking out are her hard little brown nipples. Her implants while big are very soft. She gives me a little peck and we go to the bedroom. The bedroom is bare with her little boom box in the corner. I give her the bread and she starts the music. She starts to dance for me. She obviously works as a stripper as she has all the moves. Lots more kissing just little pecks but my johnson is hard and I really just want to fuck.
I suck her tits a little and she gets me on the bed and gets me all disroped. Has some tats and also has those little holes where she got lipo on her stomach so she is pretty much all plastic minus her ass which is real and pretty plump. She goes to get her wet naps to wipe my coock off so she can suck it. Now here is the thing, I can tell how good the head is going to be just by how long they hold onto that wet nap. I swear to fuck, she is one of these squeegy blow job oral natural girls. Always fucking cleaning it off with the wet nap every 5 sucks. Like it feels good but to keep having to wipe sort of takes all the fun out of it. In the future I'm going to ask if they use the wet nap to wipe it the entire time or they just go straight suck mode after a once over.
After about 5 min of sucking she puts the rubber on and slides it into her tight little slit. She has a homer simpson innie pussy and it is fun to fuck those. She really likes riding on top and knows how to do it without you slipping out. We go to missionaire and do a little more kissing and she really loves it when I rub her clit. I do it more and want to pop. , I tell her I want her to just storke it, I ask if she does facials or boca, she says no but will let me pop on her tits. I do and because I was soo backed up I give her a huge 9 ropper. She is impressed and then we go to shower. I'm cool, I get dressed and leave.
She was ok but I don't think ill see her again. UMMV take care! And lets bring back some review please!!
Basically, he is a youtuber that talks about travel and don't think he's a monger or least he implies he's not one, but tends to cover Medellin fatalities and scolpomine incidents related mostly to mongering. Infact, that's all he seems cover. But its very informative about what's happening in Colombian, mainly medellin.I doubt he has ever been to Colombia. He doesn't know how to pronounce "el Poblado". I think he finds news articles and reads them on YouTube, while interjecting gloom and doom. I stopped watching his videos because it's the same old stuff, just a change of events.
If you look at much of the Latin American culture, especially Colombia, women go big on makeup as already mentioned and fashion. What is not big there in general is fitness and that along with a pretty heavy cuisine has led to early obesity in much of the population. That's why you see Latino women get big real fast. If you look at videos comparing Parque Lleras and Centro to the mongering areas of Thailand and Philippines, you will see a striking difference in body shape and weight levels. Yes some of it is genetic but diet plays a major role too.Now they have all these fat draining massages and surgeries. It gives all these girls a perfect 6 pack which obviously looks fake.
The funny thing is the girls start to work out after they get the surgeries.
Dropped by Parque Lleras last night, nothing really different. Seems to be up and running at full swing. Even the ridiculously high prices for the SWs still exist. The only thing was the police were checking everybody's ID at the gate. So I guess if you pick up a girl in Parque Lleras and she ends being under age you can blame it on the Police, since they check IDs of everyone that went through (yeah right! Ha ha). Were they expecting Livingston to drop by? Anyways, plenty of girls were out and majority of them were all el centro SW Vera Cruz quality with the exception of a few. The main asking price was 400 k all covered.
Anyways, plenty of girls were out and majority of them were all el centro SW Vera Cruz quality with the exception of a few. The main asking price was 400 k all covered.Thank you, been saying that for a while and guys literally try to argue with me and say that they are not the same girls LOL.
Mr Enternational
04-11-24, 03:27
I stopped watching his videos because it's the same old stuff, just a change of events.But isn't that what news is?
Who or what is DC Rob?He's YouTube "expert" on Medellin. I watched part of one of his "expert" videos on the risk of being drugged and robbed. I had to stop when he claimed women were drugging men by putting scopolamine on doorknobs.
I'm still wondering who among us is sucking on doorknobs.
Thank you, been saying that for a while and guys literally try to argue with me and say that they are not the same girls LOL.Most are not the same girls but we can agree to disagree. LOL. I have seen the girls from El Centro and the girls from Poblado and most are not the same girls. There may be a few but most of the girls from El Centro would not be able to get business in Poblado. I know that you guys think because a few of the girls are the same, that all the girls are the same or most of them but it is not true in my opinion. For guys who have never been, just go to El Centro and check out the girls and see for yourself.
The premise behind the theory that Poblado streetwalkers are just the girls from El Centro is that guys are overpaying for the same guys that I am paying 50 mil to. I'm so smart, you're so stupid. That theory works if it were true. There is definitely a lot of "I am so smart, you are a simp" bragging going on here and that is just the way many guy are. If it were true, we should all go down to El Centro instead because why should you pay much more when they can pay 50 mil? If it were true.
Now, I would admit that some guys believe that the Poblado girls are higher quality and some of the girls are also working in El Centro but it is up to the guy to assess the type of girl that he is taking. I personally have not seen too many girls that I would take in El Centro.
I will tell you this story of a Facebook girl who warned me not to see one of her friends and told me that her friend was an El Centro puta, or El Centro working girl as if that was the lowest of the low and I would not want to see such a girl. That is some indication of how some girls view girls who work in El Centro.
JohnnieCash
04-11-24, 13:19
Crowds shouting 'gringos puteros go home', burning shit and pestering guys in Lleras. Feminists apparently.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5kJ_GVN-cf/
Fun and games.
ElSexoChino7
04-11-24, 14:28
Flyers says "Say No to Sex tourism".
I love this guy LOL.
Exoticspirit
04-11-24, 14:42
I should ask since this will be my first trip to Colombia -- is the tap water in Medellin safe to drink for those of us coming from Canada / USA?
Captain Solo
04-11-24, 14:50
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.
ElSexoChino7
04-11-24, 15:01
I should ask since this will be my first trip to Colombia -- is the tap water in Medellin safe to drink for those of us coming from Canada / USA?They always say tap water is safe to drink in Medellin but I never trusted that. I always stick to bottled water. It's cheap and safer than having to deal with upset stomach or diarrhea.
But isn't that what news is?I should have been more descriptive. In his 30 minutes or so diatribe, about five minutes is a news event and the remaining is his same old alarmist babble.
I should ask since this will be my first trip to Colombia -- is the tap water in Medellin safe to drink for those of us coming from Canada / USA?For years, I drank water from the taps in Medellin with no ill effects. Since my friend's daughter was weaned from breast milk, her favorite drink has been water. I always use bottled water now because I don't want to risk her getting sick from the water. I think her mother also keeps bottled water at home. Also, I've noticed sometimes the water will look rusty, like they have been working on the water lines. As ElSexoChino7 says, I don't risk it.
I should ask since this will be my first trip to Colombia -- is the tap water in Medellin safe to drink for those of us coming from Canada / USA?The tap water in Medellin is typically safe to drink. However, the bugs in the Medellin water are going to be different than the bugs in your home water, so if you have a sensitive digestive system, drink bottled water.
Mr Enternational
04-11-24, 17:27
I should ask since this will be my first trip to Colombia -- is the tap water in Medellin safe to drink for those of us coming from Canada / USA?I tested the water from the bathroom sink in Bogota a few years back and it was actually "safer" than the bottled water. As CB was saying the microorganisms may not be what you are used to though, so you should always travel with probiotic.
Crowds shouting 'gringos puteros go home', burning shit and pestering guys in Lleras. Feminists apparently.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5kJ_GVN-cf/
Fun and games.Colombia is dead. Stay away or you will be attacked by blue haired women pretty soon.
Ok guys, it's been a LONG time since I have written a report, but I will do my best to outline this for everyone on what I think is useful I have learned in the past 5 or so years. Also, for haters or the "I don't believe you" crowd out there. Save it, I don't come to ISG often, I won't waste time with replying to nonsense. My next trip to MDE will be from 4/28 - 5/3. If you are not an FNG and have made contributions to this board, please reach out and I'm happy to buy you a beer or share a bottle with you one night at a club.
Flights
I have been flying to MDE now for 5+ years, and I can tell you without a doubt that Spirit sucks, but is great for MDE trips. If you are coming from the S.East USA, then fly Spirit through Miami or FLL. Outside of that, both American does direct flights and Delta does a flight that connects through Bogota. I will usually fly 1st class. / Delta 1 and prices are creeping up. It used to be $600 ish and now D1 is creeping up to $1200 or more. Plan ahead, and look forward to a good sex trip. At any given point, I like to have 4-5 trips ahead planned so I can manage my personal and work life around my mongering life. If you don't know about "Scotts Cheap Flights" which is now called "Going", I suggest you sign up. I have booked tickets almost a year in advance with this service and mongered now in 20+ countries flying in first class on the cheap cost with their help. Thank me later once you snag your first trans-ocean business class flight for under 1 k USD.
The MDE airport is easy. Customs line can be hit or miss, 5 minutes, or 2 hours. Be ready and get there fast to avoid a long wait if you are not on the front of the plane. Just be polite, say tourism, and provide the address of your hotel if they ask. Don't chat, just answer their question and move on. Walk through the Duty Free (Rappi has better prices) and get your luggage. Pick up is right outside. I suggest the white colored cabs. They are official airport cabs, and cost like 20mil more. (100 k from MDE airport to Poblado). Once you know the city and get a few good InDrive or Uber drivers, I get their numbers and now I have a book of guys who I will tell I'm coming into town and see who is available for a pick up at 1/2 the price.
Hotels / AirBnB
I have to apologize. The Hotel Marriott on Calle 1aSur USED TO BE the best hotel in all of Medellin to bring girls. Apparently I was cited as one of the largest reasons it no longer is. I am a 19+ year Ambassador level and the note I got from the GM: The parade of women, working girls and party girls though our hotel lobby HAS to stop, we value your status and you are welcome in the hotel, but perhaps consider another location for your personal activities. I have stayed there 50+ times in the last 5 years (including over 200 days in a row during COVID) and I can without a doubt tell you that if you use a blacklight on any room on the 4th floor pool level, or the presidential suite, it will look like a Jackson Pollock painting because of me.
They still allow "1 guest per day", but I was used to bringing in 5+ girls AT A TIME. If you ever went to La Isla and "saw that asshole who brought 5+ girls TO THE STRIP CLUB", that might have been me. (If he was handsome and dressed in Versace). The hotel is still ABSOLUTELY number one for overall value. The rooms are amazing, pool view is incredible, Nau Sushi Bar and The Market food are outstanding, and the executive lounge food and service is top notch. Also, I might be biased considering I have fucked no less than 20 of their employees as well.
Now I stay in AirBnB. I have stayed everywhere from Poblado, Laurelles to Belen. There are tons of amazing ones, no problems with guests and the occasional security who wants a small bribe but it's good for safety when you get someone who is vigilant. I would share my favorites for AirBnBs, but I don't want you all taking them. Just don't be CHEAP and find a nice 2-3 bedroom so you can lock your shit up and still have girls crash over. I have a 5 bedroom, penthouse I like to rent in Poblado that has a rooftop pool that is less per night than a single night at the Marriott.
Money / Culture / Poverty
USD is king around the world, and can be used here, but COP is the way to go. Dont bother bringing cash, get it all from one of two places: Colpatria ATM if you are in Bogota, or Scotia Bank ATM in Medellin. I can take our 4-5M COP a day with no issues from my accounts, fees are low, and you get market rate exchange. Almost everywhere takes a Visa card and its safe for the most part if you are not an idiot putting your card through a skimmer; Bring cash with you at all times for girls, street food and street fucks so you have a limit. NEVER bring cards to a strip club - bad idea. Get cash, and give yourself a limit before you go.
The COP has been rising drastically in the past 2 years, so Colombia is not as cheap as it used to be, but its still one of the best places in the world to fuck for amazing prices. (That is not in Asia). Dont be a cheap ass, and dont haggle girls who are already offering low prices for their services they dont WANT to fuck you, but NEED to fuck you since they want to eat. For the higher end girls, negotiate these all day - these girls are modern day HUSTLERS and the same girl charging me 200mil COP to me for TLN with BBFS CIP will ask for 800mil from you if they think they can get it. Be fair, but firm. Know what you want/are able to, and know there are girls that you can fuck in that price range.
This is a city where MOST people would be considered impoverished. The average Colombian from the many I know, dated, fucked and am now unofficially related to, have been telling me the average MONTHLY salary is around 1. 5 M COP. $400 USD OR WAYYYYY LESS That being said, you can go to MDE on ANY budget, but here is what I consider to be my "reasonable" My daily budget for girls is about 1M COP. I like all girls from the "el centro" girls for the quick 48 mil COP blowjob to the higher end professional types. I have spend 100 mil in a day, or 20 M in a day and had just a good a time. Set yourself a budget, and splurge when reasonable.
The culture for many in Colombia is "gift me as much as possible", "ask for things" and "pretend offense or hurt if you don't get it all". You have to learn that many folks there are literally poorer than you will EVER be, so they will push HARD to get ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they can from you. Even some of my girls who are 5+ years friendships will try the occasional hustle, and I remind them I love them, and "I will pray for you, that is better than money" and they remember who they are dealing with. I'm not cheap, in fact it's the opposite, I'm SUPER generous to my girls that is why I have so many. But after a few wives (at least they THOUGHT we were married) and too many girlfriends, I have the hang of things to keep the balance of generosity, but not stupid.
Working / Language
I loved Medellin so much I opened not one, but two businesses there. TONS of positive reasons to do this from tax write offs to employing in some way some of my far too numerous girlfriends (and wives). I still have them there, so if you are in software and feel like reaching out, send me a PM. Colombia is a GREAT place for digital nomads. You could go the visa route, but I'm never there more than 90 days. Most places have free wifi and most girls are almost always "sin datos" on their phone.
LEARN SPANISH. THEN learn Paisa. Go there as a gringo and not make basic attempts to speak will be met with "I am going to hustle this person" attitude. Think about it. Someone shows up in your state, speaks some foreign language at you and expects you to just use the translator. Fuck that. Spanish is EASY to learn. Duolingo. Girls will think its cute, and you will get 10 x better fun, sex, friends. Everyone who goes and doesn't speak Spanish. Expect gringo tax, and gringo prices. Plain and simple.
Clubs
If you dont like Reggaeton, Rap, or Electronica, too fucking bad. That is what 95% of the girls who fuck for money like. Put on what they like, go where they like, and you will have a better time. My favorite clubs are as follows:
El Poblado - Icono Club This place has some of the best DJs and is one of the more expensive clubs to go to. Keep in mind electronica clubs here are just tables people stand around and drink/do drugs. They are VERY different than other parts of the world. Text WhatsApp ahead and the DJ list and pricing for the night. Some nights are buy 1 get one 1 free bottles. These are the nights you offer to bring your girl and all her friends. Just let them know that to come out and drink/do drugs sex is expected and you will tip them well if its good. I will usually do 200mil COP each + taxi for a girl who stays all night and if I fucked her. If I didnt fuck her, its just taxi money.
Calle 45 - El Cielo The Heaven Club: This is a barrio club - DO NOT GO HERE unless you have locals with you and you speak amazing Spanish. Im not saying its not safe, Im saying you will just be an asshole for bringing your gringo ass to their club. These clubs will literally be empty until 1am and all of a sudden be full of girls all high as fuck around the tables. Picking up a girl in a club like this is not the goal - the goal is to go and have fun, get high and dance. You might get a few WhatsApp numbers, but best to bring girls there and go back and fuck later. Calle 45 is amazing and has TONS of clubs, restaurants, and more, but its very local. Once you feel local there, you are officially Paisa.
Las Palmas - La Isla - This is a gringo strip-club, through and through. Expect almost ALL the girls to be cosmetically enhanced, and expect them all to ask you for 1M+ COP for sex. They will ask 600mil COP the next day once you get their WhatsApp and settle for 400mil or less. I ALWAYS ALWAYS show up to the strip club with at least 2-3 girls. This lets all girls know right away he already has girls to fuck, so hustling him is not going to happen. I will ask them to sit down with my girls, share champagne, and then get their numbers. Tell them you can come party with us after if you want and 2/3rds of the time I will get the I get off at 2am, where should I meet at reply. If these girls dont get a client, they will come out to drink and potentially get a tip from you later if they think it will happen. This is why I always keep my room stocked with about 50+ cans of JP champagne, Smirnoff Ice, Pedialyte and candy. I forgot to mention, CANDY. When girls use drugs, their bodies will metabolize sugars REALLY fast, and they fucking love candy. Ever wonder why so many girls are sucking on a lolly pop in Medellin? Its not just so you can imagine getting your dick sucked, but most of them are high as fuck and enjoying the sugar.
Fase2 - Its a locals strip club - the girls will try to hustle you if you are not Colombian or know better. Most of the girls there are bigger, but its a cool place to go and chill with a bottle of Jack. I will have girls come sit on my lap and feel them up for an overpriced drink, but its a nice chill spot. They no NOT allow smoking inside.
Parque Lleras - threre a tons of clubs here. They will all try to pull you in and offer free XYZ or free admission. Never pay a penny to go in those clubs (except Gusto, which is 50mil COP). I like many of the clubs, and I will say YMMV based on the night of the week, amount of guys/girls there, holidays, etc. I go to PL to party, and if I dont pull a girl home, Im not upset. I like getting a bottle and having 30+ girls trying to make eye contact with me all night. I can tell within 30 seconds of them sitting down if they will stay or not, I pull the up close, get them a drink, and go for a first kiss. If its not full of passion and tongue, I let them stay until the drink is over, touching their body of course, and then say thank you nicely and they leave.
Girls / Pricing
OK - finally the section you have been waiting for Girls in MDE I would put into these categories below. (Also, I'm listing prices for me, YMMV. I'm mid-40's, attractive, well built, dress well and I'm wealthy). Sorry to those of you who are not, life is not fucking fair, get over it.
What you should know about Colombia girls/women
They will show up late, EVERY FUCKING TIME. NEVER EVER EVER EVER WAIT for a Colombia girl, as you will get angry, it will be 2 hours later, they are still in traffic which means they havent left yet, etc. Those girls have no concept of a real life with priorities and schedules etc (what do you expect of a 19 year old prostitute?). Just be ready for them to be late, and if your time is that important, tell them 30/60 minutes AHEAD of when you need to see them. Once you know a girl well you can say show up on time or I will pay less and then they get the picture. (They will still be late, but less late). Also, send girls away if they dont come DRESSED TO IMPRESS. If a girl shows up not arranged, then send their ass away. A girls cultural and social value in Colombia is EXTREMELY based on their femininity. If they dont show up looking amazing as fuck, tell them to go back and arrange if they want to see you again. (Unless you are going in the pool or something, and then I tell them to bring all their shit to shower and arrange afterwards before we go out)
Keep in mind a lot of these girls will schedule guys IN BETWEEN your visit and another, so if they are running late, they may have another guys dick in them. This is why I always like to invite 2-3 girls so if they are late, I tell them dont bother or have them meet me after I have fucked and they get 1/3 of the money, etc. I used to sit and wait, and get angry about girls and the culture like this now I have learned to adapt and simply flow with it. Never wait to eat for them eat and then when they show up (if they do on time) you order their food. If they are on the way ask them to share their WhatsApp location with you if they dont, they are not on the way.
Overall Tips
Treat girls LIKE HUMAN BEINGS. Have drinks, small snacks, and other niceties in your room and its far better than show up and fuck. A basic trip to the grocery store for what costs next to nothing will give you a 10x better experience, plus, likely to make the girl WANT to be with you. I cant count the times girls will smile and blush when I offer them champagne and order in pizza before smash that young pussy all night :). Girls like to pose in your fancy room for pictures to show off as status to their friends - so what would have been a quick 30 min fuck turns into 3 hours of her there with me taking videos of her, fucking her multiples times, getting her to show me her friends for raw-threesomes and planning to go to a club that night to dance and bring home her whole pack of girlies. Nothing like waking up in the morning to 4-5 girls passed out in bed. I always tell them I like morning sex, so if you wake up with me fucking you, dont be surprised. Uffff sleepy sex :) Some of them will just lay there until you finish and go back to sleep with your cum inside them. SO DAMN HOT.
Street Walkers
- These are the girls you will find in el-centro. Some of these girls fuck the NASTIEST guys (and are NASTY girls themselves). YOU NEED TO WEAR A CONDOM if you go with these girls for sex. Asking price is usually 40-50mil COP for FULL SEX. Dont expect fancy, but you can find the occasional diamond in the rough down there. I like to go to el-centro to eat lunch, buy clothes/shoes/etc and then get a nice long BJ. I will ask to see their smile/teeth and then ass. All I care about is that head bobbing up and down on my dick while I look at their ass in the thong. For a $12 mid-day lunch blow-job, you cant beat it. I dont recommend anything more with these girls, and they are literally ULTRA high volume. (Before you guys tell me some girls go to Lleras that work in el-centro- yep, I know that, but the caliber of street girls who have seen 20,000 dicks in their life and a Lleras girl who is 18-23 and fucking because they want some new sneakers are different). Average looks I would say are 4/5 out of 10.
Parque Lleras (PL) / Bar girls
Fuck BEFORE you to to Parque Lleras and then you wont be ready to fuck the first girl who smiles at you. This is a party spot for gringo and people with moderate/lots of money. Expect girls ranging from 5 all the way to 10 here. They stand in the parque, go inside the clubs, work in the clubs (Gusto) and literally ANY girl in PL is available to fuck. I have fucked more than one waitress, server, the girl selling drinks in the street, etc. That is why they are there. The earlier in the night, the higher price you will get; I suggest going between 9pm - 11pm. Go into a club, buy a bottle and drink, dance and enjoy kissing tons of girls. Talk to them, share your drugs with them (or them with you), have a good time and then around 1am THEN you ask them if they want to leave with you. Most girls will ask for 400-600mil, but most will accept 200-400mil depending upon what you want once its late.
If a girl in the PL wants to leave to fuck quickly, service will be rushed, and they are looking to return to the parque for more clients. Maybe you want a quick smash/dash, and that is fine, but if you do, tell them it will be quick so only 100-200mil. Most girls in PL will do BBJ but ask for a condom for sex - this is actually good since they want to stay clean :). Girls who do no-condom very easy Im very suspicious of (I might still do it though :). Girls who ask for condom sex will usually take it off for another 200mil. If I find a beautiful girl who I can tell who has not had a lot of mileage, Im wanting BBFS for sure and likely will CIP or facial them. Get their WhatsApp, and repeat with these girls before they go to the park and prices come down :).
But YYZ, how can you tell? After 25+ years of doing this I can just tell.. Simple signs are a girl who has normal (or less prostitutey) clothes, and non-VS panties, non-stripper heels and looks like she might be a bit shy or nervous, uff those are my types.
Independents / Prepagos
Most of these girls got started through FB of some online site. (PhotoPrepagos, etc). These are girls who are 5-9 in looks, and range from under the legal age to 25ish. They will advertise somewhere and have a giant list of gringos / foreigners they have already fucked for repeat business. Ever wonder what 1/2 of the girls are doing on their phone while you are out at a club? They are doing 1 of 2 things: MOST LIKLEY posting sexy pictures or angles of them in a club to show how great their life is to their friends, etc. Secondarily its looking at all the other status of the girls to then ask if they can come and party/get paid. These girls are my favorite as once you get a few you like, you get their friends numbers, and your book grows from 3 girls to 700+ after a few years. I checked my contacts this morning and I have over 700 girls in my WhatsApp with the PP prefix in front of it :)
A lot of these girls have become my friends in real life, and when I come in town they come over to chill at the pool, take nice pictures, or just want me to take them out to dinner and fuck them. These girls will ask 300-400 COP AN HOUR, and pricing will all depend upon your looks, age, style, where you are staying, Spanish ability, etc. The more you know them, you will stabilize at usually 400 for TLN + small pleasantries, but that is a tiny price to pay for a girl who is most likely still in high-school / trade school there. REMEMBER to check ID, you dont need to be going to prison over snatch when Medellin is literally the easiest place on the planet to get good pussy.
These are the girls I will go to Victorias secret before I travel and buy all the XS panties in the sale bin. Like 50+ pair. I get TONS of gift bags/boxes and my room is covered in VS boxes. I have had more than a few fall for me romantically, and I have fallen for more than a few of them myself romantically. At any given point, I probably am saying I love you to about 8-9 girls each morning. Hard not to when you wake up at 2am with a 19 year old beauty sucking your dick and sincerly asking me to give them a baby. I have never had to such passionate and good sex when these girls catch feelings for you, and you for them.
Massage Girls
These are the girls who work at the massage parlor, who also escort on the side. You will overpay for sub-par quiet in-house massage parlor sex. Medellin is so open about prostitution, that doing it clandestine is the most likely way to get a bad deal. Go to a legit massage place, get a nice massage, and if you like the girl, ask for WhatsApp and if she gives it to you, then you negotiate price later. You can get a solid REAL massage, and then sex for less money than you likely paid the massage place in the first place. For a REAL massage + Deep cleansing Facial + Sex 400-700mil is a good price. Im talking about the girls who show up in uniform, have all their own tools, bring a massage table, and later you bareback the shit out of that pussy that is something I will pay 700mil COP for. These girls are usually 23 - 35 and still beautiful since they are so hung up on looks as their profession. ALL OF THEM have their own cosmetology business outside of work, and want to make it on my own since the spas there take 70% off the top from them and they provide all the services.
Facebook / Online
Just like TikTok was created to watch teens dance sexy (god bless this application), Facebook is Colombia is like the yellow-pages for Prepagos. Here is how this works. Make yourself a fake account (use your real account and one day gaurentteed you are going to get blackmailed). Once you have a fake account search for Medallo or Medellin in the search bar and look for girls who have an open friend list and all the girls are ridiculously hot. Add about 20-30 per day (overadd and you will get quick banned). Then you just watch all their statuses and the girls who are posting 1/2 naked pics or thong bathing suit pictures in the mirror - there you go. Send them an hola amor and if they reply back - you can ask for a date, tell them you want to see them, and boom - you are connected. Make sure to see an ID if you are not 10000% sure they are overage, Colombian Cops and even the US are using FB as their primary go-to for entrapment of guys for underage sex. Once you get one good solid girl, you add all her friends, and then their friends, and all of a sudden you have 4000+ girls in Medellin. Its like a buffet of young and for-sale vagina.
Keep in mind - filters are a powerful thing. Make sure you look at lots of pics of the girls to get past the instagram sparkle photo you fell in love with.
Non-Pros / Normal Colombian Girls / Etc
Sex on a first date with a normal Colombia girl is about 75% expected. I have fucked every girl under the sun from receptionists at the Marriott, to Juan Valdez girls, to attorneys, etc. Its a very sex forward culture, and if you manage to get a real date, as long as you are not an ugly cheapskate douchebag, you will score sex on date 1. Here is usually my playbook.
* Im out at a mall and I see an amazing girl working in a clothing store. I look around and tell here Im looking to buy something nice for my mother (or sister) and you get points right away.
* You thank them for helping you, and say maybe they would just like flowers instead. They think its sweet and you still get to talk to them.
* You say I usually never do this type of thing, but would you be open for a drink or dinner? You are just really beautiful and Im new to Colombia If they give you their WhatsApp number, boom, you just got a date.
* Dont be too eager - ask them to text you that night or the next day and arrange something like this. I loved meeting you at ZYX store - how about insert popular dinner place at 7:30pm? While you are there, tell them you have an amazing bottle of wine (or beers if they are drinking beers) at your place and you can go back and listen to music and learn more about each other.
* If her shoes come off - you are going to fuck. Simple as that. If a girl keeps her shoes on once she is inside (unless you have a dirty ass floor), she is not expecting to take her pants off. Shoes off, pants off.
* Put on music SHE likes - almost all Colombians like Reggaeton (or Reggetaon Viejo), electronica or traditional Colombian music. Stand up to dance (even if you cant and after 20 seconds - boom, move in to kiss).
Cosmetic Surgery / Health
Thats right, you read that header correctly. Colombias NUMBER FUCKING TWO export is elective surgery. I have had two hair transplants, gastric surgery, teeth fixes, etc, etc. I literally look 15 years younger, and feel 10x better. Its on average 1/3 the price of the USA and the quality of both care and doctors are better. Every single trip I will get a cleaning facial, vitamin c injection, plasma for my hair, botox, teeth whitening, deep tissue massages are more the only place on earth probably better for low cost and high quality spa-treatments is Pattaya Thailand.
Did you know that girls like fucking men who are more attractive and not lazy slobs? Dress well (in fake brand clothes of course you buy down in el centro), take care of yourself, and all of a sudden you will have girls WANTING to be with you, vs WILLING to be with you for money. Unlike my drug contacts, these contacts Im happy to share with you - PM me if you are interested and not just looking to waste my time. Google search first, and prove you are not just some rando looking for something they will never use and I will happily share details, pricing and more with you if you are serious about getting into better health. Best thing you can do for your sex life is to be active and in shape. I know we go for vacation to fuck, but guys, take the time to workout everyday, (even if its just walking). If you are there long periods of time, join a gym and stare at all the young girls in spandex. Seriously, just get outside and start moving. Your body will thank you.
Vitamins - I know this is an odd thing - but Im telling you this: There are some meds that I just wont travel without:
Sunflower Lecithin - this stuff comes in HUGE horse pills, and taste disgusting. But when paired with 25mg of Zinc you will literally boost your cum production 5x. I like to be able to paint a girls face proper. The more cum you make, the better your orgasm. Plain and simple.
PrEP - this is a prescription medication that is an ANTI-HIV / blocker. If you are barebacking girls in high volume (or any volume), I strongly recommend it.
DoxyCycline - this stuff in combination with PrEP is known to block almost all other STDs / STIS.
HPV vaccine - if you dont have this (its a series of 3 vaccines- fucking get it. Makes you immune to HPV.
The goal here is to fuck as much raw as possible and protect yourself from getting sick. Im also fixed so I dont worry about babies, but guys, these girls are poor as it is, if you make a baby, take care of it. If you dont - youre a trash terrible person and I hope you burn in hell. Babies are Gods gift to this earth.
Drugs
I won't go into the section too much since honestly, I don't recommend using drugs to anyone. I use them from time to time, but only in Colombia. What I will tell you is most younger working girls will perform 2 x as good on Tussi, and it will turn a 1 hour session into 3-4 hours of animal BBFS and passion if you get good stuff. Get your contacts from the girls. The going rate is 65-80 mil COP cada punto. Any less you should not pay as it's either not real, or dangerously cut with fentenol. The only drugs at all I recommend are Tussi, Ecstasy tabs and Coke. Everything else in MDE is trash and likely to get you killed.
Caution / Danger
There are a lot of very poor, very bad and very desperate people when it comes to poverty. If I was poor, would I feel bad about drugging a gringo so I could sell his overpriced phone to get money to feed my kids? You bet your life. I have gone to Colombia more than most people on the forum, and I have NEVER had an issue. Here is what I suggest.
* Put your stuff away. This means when you leave your place, ALWAYS think you might be bringing a girl back. Put your computer away, fancy toiletries, etc. (Girls will steal your cologne in a heart beat if they think they can get away with it). I know its a pain, but this is why I will get 2/3/4 bedrooms and just lock doors. Until I trust a girl, which takes a while there, I dont ever leave them alone in my place.
* Don't "dar papaya". This means. Don't ask to get robbed. Don't walk around with your $1500 US cell phone out snapping pictures like an idiot.
* Don't pull out big money in public. Keep small amounts in one pocket- and your larger amount in a zipper pocket and shift money in private.
* Wear fake jewelry. Most Colombians are anyways, so you will fit in more with a fake Gucci shirt than you will with your idiotic NFL shirt. That is just advertising to get mugged.
* Wear a crossbody bag. Keep your shit in front of you in a bag that clips / straps over your body and you are 100x harder to rob.
* If a girl is not willing to send you a copy of her ID or let you see it / take a picture. WALK AWAY. There are 1000x other hot girls less than 10 minutes away.
* Girls you just met like to offer threesomes as it's 1/2 the work for the same money EACH, and they are safer with a friend. If a girl brings a friend along that you didn't ask for, it's to hustle you. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
* Make sure you take PREP and cycle antibiotics. Girls will say they are clean, but the 5 guys they fucked before might have been lying. I have BBed over 800 girls in MDE and still clean to this day. Prep+Doxycycline pretty much makes you immune to STDS. (Sure it ruins your liver, but fuck livers).
*Remember that Colombia mongering life IS NOT REAL. Don't get sucked into the hype. Your life at home is your life. Once you can't stop thinking about mongering, you have gone too far.
* GET ID! GET ID! GET ID! Colombia police LOVE busting guys for child trafficking. There have been so many hotels closed and guys going to jail in the news recently, you need to be hyper aware here. I have met girls as YOUNG AS 11 years old with 10+ tattoos who could pass for 17/18 who are already working the streets. GUYS. DON'T FUCK LITTLE KIDS. Dont say its the culture there - they are doing it out of desperation. There is a SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL FOR YOU IF YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF / ABUSE CHILDREN
I have been in the best parts, and I guarantee you the WORST parts of Colombia. I MARRIED into a VERY poor family and have seen true desperation and children going hungry. Even then they were some of the KINDEST people I have ever met. Don't be an asshole, be good to humans, and don't be an idiot and you should be ok.
Relationships
I can't count the number of times I have fallen in love in Colombia. Like REAL romantic love. I MARRIED one girl (there are a lot of posts about her in this very forum including great nudes of her too)(I still fucked everything that moved), but I loved this girl with all my heart. I have 10+ girls who I love like little sisters (I still fuck them), but I help them with clothes for school, birthday gifts, have met their families, been to weddings, funerals, Christmas at their house and more. Colombians are some of the most passionate and warm people in the world (probably only 2nd to Brazil). If you are single, you are VERY likely to fall in love - if you do fall in love... please don't make the mistake I made (will continue to make). Just be honest, tell them you like fucking lots of women, and you will find a girl there who will let you fuck everyone and anyone and still love you (if you take care of her and. her family). Word of warning here: I have NEVER seen a hot Colombian woman over 45 years old. These girls AGE HARD. If you are going to get into a relationship, AIM YOUNG (18-23) and you will be dead before they get ugly.
Food / Rappi
Some of the very best food can be found in Colombia! Dont just limit yourself to hotel food, but explore out there and look up good restaurants. Everything from fresh chicharron, to mazorca, to arepas con salsa aji fresco. Guys, even if you are not a foodie you should be eating like a king when in Colombia. I recommend Desayunadero for all you Poblado guys. They have an amazing breakfast/brunch and its an amazing portion. Dont overeat, and make sure you get the food to go to give to homeless people outside vs it just going into the garbage. There other places like Collosal, Oudres Carnes de Res, La Matriaca and more.
Rappi - Rappi is fucking amazing for food delivery, alcohol delivery, CASH delivery from ATMS and more. I use it every country they have it, and WISH they had it in the USA. Uber fucking sucks, dont try to compare it. I can order a burger and beer from Rappi in Medellin and have it in my hands in less than 10 minutes with Rappi turbo. This is great for ordering girls food / alcohol and not waiting forever. You would be amazed and what 40mil COP burger and fries will do.
I dont what category this goes in / Rants
GUYS - GROOM YOUR FUCKING DICK. I cant believe the number of guys who dont do this - the stories I hear from these girls. Keep the hair short, shave your dick and balls and make it look fucking presentable. Holy shit, you would think this is common knowledge, and guys want a nice and clean pussy, but have a gross as crotch themselves. HOLY SHIT guys, seriously. GIRLS TALK TOO. The number of you guys on here that girls talk about with the fat white guy belly, or Indians never shave their balls or some other nonsense. Have good grooming and dont be that guy.
DO NOT RIP GIRLS OFF - I have heard horror stories from girls getting ripped off by gringos and it GIVES US ALL A BAD NAME. If you want pussy, PAY FOR IT. If you rip girls off - they will post pictures of you, and one day that is going to come back to haunt you 10000x harder.
In closing. My years in Colombia have been some of the best of my life. I have become closer to God learning true religious culture. I have fucked literally 100's of women, had 3-somes, 4-somes, 5-somes, and FAR more once with 23 girls + me in a place in Guatape. The smell of vagina was HEAVENLY and one of my best memories in life. I have CIPed enough girls to literally have 200+ kids and I have met some of my very best friends in life there. I have had amazing times where I did too many drugs in a club and a girl would bring be home and her grandmother would make me soup, or been blessed with the chance to help a friend welcome a new baby into their world and attend family lunches, christenings and more. I'm godfather to countless kids, and I help families provide Christmas presented for their kids for Christmas. I have opened businesses there, I employ 85+ people now in Colombia and consider it to be my 2nd home on this planet and I'm part of that community. I'm more Paisa than most Colombians, the biggest difference being I'm pretty damn rich. I enjoy the expensive clubs in Poblado, and the barrio ones on calle 45.
The best advice I can give you, is go with someone who has gone before. Be open to seeing more than just the inside of a young girls panties, and you will have the time of your life. You will see kind people, beautiful women, amazing food, and best of all it will give you perspective into an amazing emerging culture in which you can be a part of. Cheers, and happy hunting!!
Bottled water is not expensive. Why risk a bad reaction?
The tap water in Medellin is typically safe to drink. However, the bugs in the Medellin water are going to be different than the bugs in your home water, so if you have a sensitive digestive system, drink bottled water.
I think I will continue to take a pass on this content.
I should have been more descriptive. In his 30 minutes or so diatribe, about five minutes is a news event and the remaining is his same old alarmist babble.
Crowds shouting 'gringos puteros go home', burning shit and pestering guys in Lleras. Feminists apparently.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5kJ_GVN-cf/
Fun and games.These Colombian guys don't like foreigners with lots of money banging their girls and hiking prices. It was bound to start sometime.
The premise behind the theory that Poblado streetwalkers are just the girls from El Centro is that guys are overpaying for the same guys that I am paying 50 mil to. I'm so smart, you're so stupid. That theory works if it were true. There is definitely a lot of "I am so smart, you are a simp" bragging going on here and that is just the way many guy are. If it were true, we should all go down to El Centro instead because why should you pay much more when they can pay 50 mil? If it were true.
Now, I would admit that some guys believe that the Poblado girls are higher quality and some of the girls are also working in El Centro but it is up to the guy to assess the type of girl that he is taking. I personally have not seen too many girls that I would take in El Centro.
I will tell you this story of a Facebook girl who warned me not to see one of her friends and told me that her friend was an El Centro puta, or El Centro working girl as if that was the lowest of the low and I would not want to see such a girl. That is some indication of how some girls view girls who work in El Centro.It's not Rocket Science brother Moon.
There's definitely a large amount of girls that work both areas.
Some work every day at both, some a little here, a little there.
It's fluid.
I know them, I see them, some even laugh about the different prices they charge.
It's reality.
Not a big deal.
I don't blame a guy if he likes to hang in Lleras, snag a girl there.
Better atmosphere, party scene, safe, etc.
El Centro is not comfortable for everyone obviously.
Elvis 2008
04-12-24, 03:31
The premise behind the theory that Poblado streetwalkers are just the girls from El Centro is that guys are overpaying for the same guys that I am paying 50 mil to. I'm so smart, you're so stupid. That theory works if it were true. There is definitely a lot of "I am so smart, you are a simp" bragging going on here and that is just the way many guy are. If it were true, we should all go down to El Centro instead because why should you pay much more when they can pay 50 mil? If it were true.
Now, I would admit that some guys believe that the Poblado girls are higher quality and some of the girls are also working in El Centro but it is up to the guy to assess the type of girl that he is taking. I personally have not seen too many girls that I would take in El Centro.Yeah, a lot of losers on here who want to believe that get the same quality for less. It is not always true but for the most part, you get what you pay for.
Crowds shouting 'gringos puteros go home', burning shit and pestering guys in Lleras. Feminists apparently.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5kJ_GVN-cf/ Fun and games.Probably a fugly bunch of feminists that hates what eliminates their chances of get laid because of the sex trade.
Mr Enternational
04-12-24, 03:47
I will tell you this story of a Facebook girl who warned me not to see one of her friends and told me that her friend was an El Centro puta, or El Centro working girl as if that was the lowest of the low and I would not want to see such a girl. That is some indication of how some girls view girls who work in El Centro.That is done by chicks everywhere the same as it is done by dudes in this forum. I got my "sugar baby" from seeking so she is better than your puta from parque lleras. Meanwhile the chicks on seeking do not see themselves as "putas", but see the chicks downtown as dirty, nasty, "putas;" nevermind all of them are getting paid to fuck. So as humans do, they want to make some kind of hierarchy or try to differentiate doing the same damn thing, selling pussy.
These Colombian guys don't like foreigners with lots of money banging their girls and hiking prices. It was bound to start sometime.Probably not them that are protesting. There are a lot of people, probably many of the middle and upper class people, many women, that don't like sex tourism, don't like their young-uns being marketed to sex tourists, and generally see the foreigners as the problem. Even some people that work in businesses in Parque Lleras are disgusted by a lot of what goes on.
The premise behind the theory that Poblado streetwalkers are just the girls from El Centro is that guys are overpaying for the same guys that I am paying 50 mil to. I'm so smart, you're so stupid. That theory works if it were true. There is definitely a lot of "I am so smart, you are a simp" bragging going on here and that is just the way many guy are. If it were true, we should all go down to El Centro instead because why should you pay much more when they can pay 50 mil? If it were true.
Now, I would admit that some guys believe that the Poblado girls are higher quality and some of the girls are also working in El Centro but it is up to the guy to assess the type of girl that he is taking. I personally have not seen too many girls that I would take in El Centro.
I will tell you this story of a Facebook girl who warned me not to see one of her friends and told me that her friend was an El Centro puta, or El Centro working girl as if that was the lowest of the low and I would not want to see such a girl. That is some indication of how some girls view girls who work in El Centro.For the most part many of them are the same girls who work in El Centro or atleast previously at one time worked in El Centro, especially the Venezuelans.
As far as the difference in price, and I think Flying J touched on this recently, in Poblado you are getting a hour or more versus in Centro it's a half hour or even less if you go to the wrong hotel. In Poblado they often dress up more wearing prettier dresses, etc.
And in Poblado it is a foreign clientele vs. In Centro it's mainly a local clientele, so that is what causes the difference in price, but yes many of the do or have worked in El Centro.
I'm in Parque Lleras now. The 1 am closing is over. First time here. The drink prices are crazy. Seem like the prices get higher the closer to the weekend it gets. Paid $20 for a greygoose and cranberry in MonteCarlo, the club on top of Black Diamond. My drink is more expensive at Black Diamond and cheapest in Gustos.
Pretty much this area is a tourist trap when it comes to prices.
The girls are all out. It looks good for a Thursday. Even Wednesday was pretty good.
Had a very good breakfast at Sweet Georgia's.
StudBucket
04-12-24, 05:04
I'm in Parque Lleras now. The 1 am closing is over. First time here. The drink prices are crazy. Seem like the prices get higher the closer to the weekend it gets. Paid $20 for a greygoose and cranberry in MonteCarlo, the club on top of Black Diamond. My drink is more expensive at Black Diamond and cheapest in Gustos.
Pretty much this area is a tourist trap when it comes to prices.
The girls are all out. It looks good for a Thursday. Even Wednesday was pretty good.
Had a very good breakfast at Sweet Georgia's.Are you sure the clubs are open past 1 am, and if so, what time are they closing? Reports were the mayor was pissed and this was supposed to happen for 6 months. Good news if that is the case though.
On another note, yes, drinks are very expensive at the clubs so if you want to save money you can drink before you go, buy a bottle with 2 friends for 200, go out of the club and buy drinks next door at those mini market type liquor stores, or stick with beer. Just giving tips.
StudBucket
04-12-24, 06:06
Ok guys, it's been a LONG time since I have written a report, but I will do my best to outline this for everyone on what I think is useful I have learned in the past 5 or so years. Also, for haters or the "I don't believe you" crowd out there. Save it, I don't come to ISG often, I won't waste time with replying to nonsense. My next trip to MDE will be from 4/28 - 5/3. If you are not an FNG and have made contributions to this board, please reach out and I'm happy to buy you a beer or share a bottle with you one night at a club.
Flights
I have been flying to MDE now for 5+ years, and I can tell you without a doubt that Spirit sucks, but is great for MDE trips. If you are coming from the S.East USA, then fly Spirit through Miami or FLL. Outside of that, both American does direct flights and Delta does a flight that connects through Bogota. I will usually fly 1st class. / Delta 1 and prices are creeping up. It used to be $600 ish and now D1 is creeping up to $1200 or more. Plan ahead, and look forward to a good sex trip. At any given point, I like to have 4-5 trips ahead planned so I can manage my personal and work life around my mongering life. If you don't know about "Scotts Cheap Flights" which is now called "Going", I suggest you sign up. I have booked tickets almost a year in advance with this service and mongered now in 20+ countries flying in first class on the cheap cost with their help. Thank me later once you snag your first trans-ocean business class flight for under 1 k USD.
The MDE airport is easy. Customs line can be hit or miss, 5 minutes, or 2 hours. Be ready and get there fast to avoid a long wait if you are not on the front of the plane. Just be polite, say tourism, and provide the address of your hotel if they ask. Don't chat, just answer their question and move on. Walk through the Duty Free (Rappi has better prices) and get your luggage. Pick up is right outside. I suggest the white colored cabs. They are official airport cabs, and cost like 20mil more. (100 k from MDE airport to Poblado). Once you know the city and get a few good InDrive or Uber drivers, I get their numbers and now I have a book of guys who I will tell I'm coming into town and see who is available for a pick up at 1/2 the price.
Hotels / AirBnB
I have to apologize. The Hotel Marriott on Calle 1aSur USED TO BE the best hotel in all of Medellin to bring girls. Apparently I was cited as one of the largest reasons it no longer is. I am a 19+ year Ambassador level and the note I got from the GM: The parade of women, working girls and party girls though our hotel lobby HAS to stop, we value your status and you are welcome in the hotel, but perhaps consider another location for your personal activities. I have stayed there 50+ times in the last 5 years (including over 200 days in a row during COVID) and I can without a doubt tell you that if you use a blacklight on any room on the 4th floor pool level, or the presidential suite, it will look like a Jackson Pollock painting because of me.
They still allow "1 guest per day", but I was used to bringing in 5+ girls AT A TIME. If you ever went to La Isla and "saw that asshole who brought 5+ girls TO THE STRIP CLUB", that might have been me. (If he was handsome and dressed in Versace). The hotel is still ABSOLUTELY number one for overall value. The rooms are amazing, pool view is incredible, Nau Sushi Bar and The Market food are outstanding, and the executive lounge food and service is top notch. Also, I might be biased considering I have fucked no less than 20 of their employees as well.
Now I stay in AirBnB. I have stayed everywhere from Poblado, Laurelles to Belen. There are tons of amazing ones, no problems with guests and the occasional security who wants a small bribe but it's good for safety when you get someone who is vigilant. I would share my favorites for AirBnBs, but I don't want you all taking them. Just don't be CHEAP and find a nice 2-3 bedroom so you can lock your shit up and still have girls crash over. I have a 5 bedroom, penthouse I like to rent in Poblado that has a rooftop pool that is less per night than a single night at the Marriott.
Money / Culture / Poverty
USD is king around the world, and can be used here, but COP is the way to go. Dont bother bringing cash, get it all from one of two places: Colpatria ATM if you are in Bogota, or Scotia Bank ATM in Medellin. I can take our 4-5M COP a day with no issues from my accounts, fees are low, and you get market rate exchange. Almost everywhere takes a Visa card and its safe for the most part if you are not an idiot putting your card through a skimmer; Bring cash with you at all times for girls, street food and street fucks so you have a limit. NEVER bring cards to a strip club - bad idea. Get cash, and give yourself a limit before you go.
The COP has been rising drastically in the past 2 years, so Colombia is not as cheap as it used to be, but its still one of the best places in the world to fuck for amazing prices. (That is not in Asia). Dont be a cheap ass, and dont haggle girls who are already offering low prices for their services they dont WANT to fuck you, but NEED to fuck you since they want to eat. For the higher end girls, negotiate these all day - these girls are modern day HUSTLERS and the same girl charging me 200mil COP to me for TLN with BBFS CIP will ask for 800mil from you if they think they can get it. Be fair, but firm. Know what you want/are able to, and know there are girls that you can fuck in that price range.
This is a city where MOST people would be considered impoverished. The average Colombian from the many I know, dated, fucked and am now unofficially related to, have been telling me the average MONTHLY salary is around 1. 5 M COP. $400 USD OR WAYYYYY LESS That being said, you can go to MDE on ANY budget, but here is what I consider to be my "reasonable" My daily budget for girls is about 1M COP. I like all girls from the "el centro" girls for the quick 48 mil COP blowjob to the higher end professional types. I have spend 100 mil in a day, or 20 M in a day and had just a good a time. Set yourself a budget, and splurge when reasonable.
The culture for many in Colombia is "gift me as much as possible", "ask for things" and "pretend offense or hurt if you don't get it all". You have to learn that many folks there are literally poorer than you will EVER be, so they will push HARD to get ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they can from you. Even some of my girls who are 5+ years friendships will try the occasional hustle, and I remind them I love them, and "I will pray for you, that is better than money" and they remember who they are dealing with. I'm not cheap, in fact it's the opposite, I'm SUPER generous to my girls that is why I have so many. But after a few wives (at least they THOUGHT we were married) and too many girlfriends, I have the hang of things to keep the balance of generosity, but not stupid.
Working / Language
I loved Medellin so much I opened not one, but two businesses there. TONS of positive reasons to do this from tax write offs to employing in some way some of my far too numerous girlfriends (and wives). I still have them there, so if you are in software and feel like reaching out, send me a PM. Colombia is a GREAT place for digital nomads. You could go the visa route, but I'm never there more than 90 days. Most places have free wifi and most girls are almost always "sin datos" on their phone.
LEARN SPANISH. THEN learn Paisa. Go there as a gringo and not make basic attempts to speak will be met with "I am going to hustle this person" attitude. Think about it. Someone shows up in your state, speaks some foreign language at you and expects you to just use the translator. Fuck that. Spanish is EASY to learn. Duolingo. Girls will think its cute, and you will get 10 x better fun, sex, friends. Everyone who goes and doesn't speak Spanish. Expect gringo tax, and gringo prices. Plain and simple.
Clubs
If you dont like Reggaeton, Rap, or Electronica, too fucking bad. That is what 95% of the girls who fuck for money like. Put on what they like, go where they like, and you will have a better time. My favorite clubs are as follows:
El Poblado - Icono Club This place has some of the best DJs and is one of the more expensive clubs to go to. Keep in mind electronica clubs here are just tables people stand around and drink/do drugs. They are VERY different than other parts of the world. Text WhatsApp ahead and the DJ list and pricing for the night. Some nights are buy 1 get one 1 free bottles. These are the nights you offer to bring your girl and all her friends. Just let them know that to come out and drink/do drugs sex is expected and you will tip them well if its good. I will usually do 200mil COP each + taxi for a girl who stays all night and if I fucked her. If I didnt fuck her, its just taxi money.
Calle 45 - El Cielo The Heaven Club: This is a barrio club - DO NOT GO HERE unless you have locals with you and you speak amazing Spanish. Im not saying its not safe, Im saying you will just be an asshole for bringing your gringo ass to their club. These clubs will literally be empty until 1am and all of a sudden be full of girls all high as fuck around the tables. Picking up a girl in a club like this is not the goal - the goal is to go and have fun, get high and dance. You might get a few WhatsApp numbers, but best to bring girls there and go back and fuck later. Calle 45 is amazing and has TONS of clubs, restaurants, and more, but its very local. Once you feel local there, you are officially Paisa.
Las Palmas - La Isla - This is a gringo strip-club, through and through. Expect almost ALL the girls to be cosmetically enhanced, and expect them all to ask you for 1M+ COP for sex. They will ask 600mil COP the next day once you get their WhatsApp and settle for 400mil or less. I ALWAYS ALWAYS show up to the strip club with at least 2-3 girls. This lets all girls know right away he already has girls to fuck, so hustling him is not going to happen. I will ask them to sit down with my girls, share champagne, and then get their numbers. Tell them you can come party with us after if you want and 2/3rds of the time I will get the I get off at 2am, where should I meet at reply. If these girls dont get a client, they will come out to drink and potentially get a tip from you later if they think it will happen. This is why I always keep my room stocked with about 50+ cans of JP champagne, Smirnoff Ice, Pedialyte and candy. I forgot to mention, CANDY. When girls use drugs, their bodies will metabolize sugars REALLY fast, and they fucking love candy. Ever wonder why so many girls are sucking on a lolly pop in Medellin? Its not just so you can imagine getting your dick sucked, but most of them are high as fuck and enjoying the sugar.
Fase2 - Its a locals strip club - the girls will try to hustle you if you are not Colombian or know better. Most of the girls there are bigger, but its a cool place to go and chill with a bottle of Jack. I will have girls come sit on my lap and feel them up for an overpriced drink, but its a nice chill spot. They no NOT allow smoking inside.
Parque Lleras - threre a tons of clubs here. They will all try to pull you in and offer free XYZ or free admission. Never pay a penny to go in those clubs (except Gusto, which is 50mil COP). I like many of the clubs, and I will say YMMV based on the night of the week, amount of guys/girls there, holidays, etc. I go to PL to party, and if I dont pull a girl home, Im not upset. I like getting a bottle and having 30+ girls trying to make eye contact with me all night. I can tell within 30 seconds of them sitting down if they will stay or not, I pull the up close, get them a drink, and go for a first kiss. If its not full of passion and tongue, I let them stay until the drink is over, touching their body of course, and then say thank you nicely and they leave.
Girls / Pricing
OK - finally the section you have been waiting for Girls in MDE I would put into these categories below. (Also, I'm listing prices for me, YMMV. I'm mid-40's, attractive, well built, dress well and I'm wealthy). Sorry to those of you who are not, life is not fucking fair, get over it.
What you should know about Colombia girls/women
They will show up late, EVERY FUCKING TIME. NEVER EVER EVER EVER WAIT for a Colombia girl, as you will get angry, it will be 2 hours later, they are still in traffic which means they havent left yet, etc. Those girls have no concept of a real life with priorities and schedules etc (what do you expect of a 19 year old prostitute?). Just be ready for them to be late, and if your time is that important, tell them 30/60 minutes AHEAD of when you need to see them. Once you know a girl well you can say show up on time or I will pay less and then they get the picture. (They will still be late, but less late). Also, send girls away if they dont come DRESSED TO IMPRESS. If a girl shows up not arranged, then send their ass away. A girls cultural and social value in Colombia is EXTREMELY based on their femininity. If they dont show up looking amazing as fuck, tell them to go back and arrange if they want to see you again. (Unless you are going in the pool or something, and then I tell them to bring all their shit to shower and arrange afterwards before we go out)
Keep in mind a lot of these girls will schedule guys IN BETWEEN your visit and another, so if they are running late, they may have another guys dick in them. This is why I always like to invite 2-3 girls so if they are late, I tell them dont bother or have them meet me after I have fucked and they get 1/3 of the money, etc. I used to sit and wait, and get angry about girls and the culture like this now I have learned to adapt and simply flow with it. Never wait to eat for them eat and then when they show up (if they do on time) you order their food. If they are on the way ask them to share their WhatsApp location with you if they dont, they are not on the way.
Overall Tips
Treat girls LIKE HUMAN BEINGS. Have drinks, small snacks, and other niceties in your room and its far better than show up and fuck. A basic trip to the grocery store for what costs next to nothing will give you a 10x better experience, plus, likely to make the girl WANT to be with you. I cant count the times girls will smile and blush when I offer them champagne and order in pizza before smash that young pussy all night :). Girls like to pose in your fancy room for pictures to show off as status to their friends - so what would have been a quick 30 min fuck turns into 3 hours of her there with me taking videos of her, fucking her multiples times, getting her to show me her friends for raw-threesomes and planning to go to a club that night to dance and bring home her whole pack of girlies. Nothing like waking up in the morning to 4-5 girls passed out in bed. I always tell them I like morning sex, so if you wake up with me fucking you, dont be surprised. Uffff sleepy sex :) Some of them will just lay there until you finish and go back to sleep with your cum inside them. SO DAMN HOT.
Street Walkers
- These are the girls you will find in el-centro. Some of these girls fuck the NASTIEST guys (and are NASTY girls themselves). YOU NEED TO WEAR A CONDOM if you go with these girls for sex. Asking price is usually 40-50mil COP for FULL SEX. Dont expect fancy, but you can find the occasional diamond in the rough down there. I like to go to el-centro to eat lunch, buy clothes/shoes/etc and then get a nice long BJ. I will ask to see their smile/teeth and then ass. All I care about is that head bobbing up and down on my dick while I look at their ass in the thong. For a $12 mid-day lunch blow-job, you cant beat it. I dont recommend anything more with these girls, and they are literally ULTRA high volume. (Before you guys tell me some girls go to Lleras that work in el-centro- yep, I know that, but the caliber of street girls who have seen 20,000 dicks in their life and a Lleras girl who is 18-23 and fucking because they want some new sneakers are different). Average looks I would say are 4/5 out of 10.
Parque Lleras (PL) / Bar girls
Fuck BEFORE you to to Parque Lleras and then you wont be ready to fuck the first girl who smiles at you. This is a party spot for gringo and people with moderate/lots of money. Expect girls ranging from 5 all the way to 10 here. They stand in the parque, go inside the clubs, work in the clubs (Gusto) and literally ANY girl in PL is available to fuck. I have fucked more than one waitress, server, the girl selling drinks in the street, etc. That is why they are there. The earlier in the night, the higher price you will get; I suggest going between 9pm - 11pm. Go into a club, buy a bottle and drink, dance and enjoy kissing tons of girls. Talk to them, share your drugs with them (or them with you), have a good time and then around 1am THEN you ask them if they want to leave with you. Most girls will ask for 400-600mil, but most will accept 200-400mil depending upon what you want once its late.
If a girl in the PL wants to leave to fuck quickly, service will be rushed, and they are looking to return to the parque for more clients. Maybe you want a quick smash/dash, and that is fine, but if you do, tell them it will be quick so only 100-200mil. Most girls in PL will do BBJ but ask for a condom for sex - this is actually good since they want to stay clean :). Girls who do no-condom very easy Im very suspicious of (I might still do it though :). Girls who ask for condom sex will usually take it off for another 200mil. If I find a beautiful girl who I can tell who has not had a lot of mileage, Im wanting BBFS for sure and likely will CIP or facial them. Get their WhatsApp, and repeat with these girls before they go to the park and prices come down :).
But YYZ, how can you tell? After 25+ years of doing this I can just tell.. Simple signs are a girl who has normal (or less prostitutey) clothes, and non-VS panties, non-stripper heels and looks like she might be a bit shy or nervous, uff those are my types.
Independents / Prepagos
Most of these girls got started through FB of some online site. (PhotoPrepagos, etc). These are girls who are 5-9 in looks, and range from under the legal age to 25ish. They will advertise somewhere and have a giant list of gringos / foreigners they have already fucked for repeat business. Ever wonder what 1/2 of the girls are doing on their phone while you are out at a club? They are doing 1 of 2 things: MOST LIKLEY posting sexy pictures or angles of them in a club to show how great their life is to their friends, etc. Secondarily its looking at all the other status of the girls to then ask if they can come and party/get paid. These girls are my favorite as once you get a few you like, you get their friends numbers, and your book grows from 3 girls to 700+ after a few years. I checked my contacts this morning and I have over 700 girls in my WhatsApp with the PP prefix in front of it :)
A lot of these girls have become my friends in real life, and when I come in town they come over to chill at the pool, take nice pictures, or just want me to take them out to dinner and fuck them. These girls will ask 300-400 COP AN HOUR, and pricing will all depend upon your looks, age, style, where you are staying, Spanish ability, etc. The more you know them, you will stabilize at usually 400 for TLN + small pleasantries, but that is a tiny price to pay for a girl who is most likely still in high-school / trade school there. REMEMBER to check ID, you dont need to be going to prison over snatch when Medellin is literally the easiest place on the planet to get good pussy.
These are the girls I will go to Victorias secret before I travel and buy all the XS panties in the sale bin. Like 50+ pair. I get TONS of gift bags/boxes and my room is covered in VS boxes. I have had more than a few fall for me romantically, and I have fallen for more than a few of them myself romantically. At any given point, I probably am saying I love you to about 8-9 girls each morning. Hard not to when you wake up at 2am with a 19 year old beauty sucking your dick and sincerly asking me to give them a baby. I have never had to such passionate and good sex when these girls catch feelings for you, and you for them.
Massage Girls
These are the girls who work at the massage parlor, who also escort on the side. You will overpay for sub-par quiet in-house massage parlor sex. Medellin is so open about prostitution, that doing it clandestine is the most likely way to get a bad deal. Go to a legit massage place, get a nice massage, and if you like the girl, ask for WhatsApp and if she gives it to you, then you negotiate price later. You can get a solid REAL massage, and then sex for less money than you likely paid the massage place in the first place. For a REAL massage + Deep cleansing Facial + Sex 400-700mil is a good price. Im talking about the girls who show up in uniform, have all their own tools, bring a massage table, and later you bareback the shit out of that pussy that is something I will pay 700mil COP for. These girls are usually 23 - 35 and still beautiful since they are so hung up on looks as their profession. ALL OF THEM have their own cosmetology business outside of work, and want to make it on my own since the spas there take 70% off the top from them and they provide all the services.
Facebook / Online
Just like TikTok was created to watch teens dance sexy (god bless this application), Facebook is Colombia is like the yellow-pages for Prepagos. Here is how this works. Make yourself a fake account (use your real account and one day gaurentteed you are going to get blackmailed). Once you have a fake account search for Medallo or Medellin in the search bar and look for girls who have an open friend list and all the girls are ridiculously hot. Add about 20-30 per day (overadd and you will get quick banned). Then you just watch all their statuses and the girls who are posting 1/2 naked pics or thong bathing suit pictures in the mirror - there you go. Send them an hola amor and if they reply back - you can ask for a date, tell them you want to see them, and boom - you are connected. Make sure to see an ID if you are not 10000% sure they are overage, Colombian Cops and even the US are using FB as their primary go-to for entrapment of guys for underage sex. Once you get one good solid girl, you add all her friends, and then their friends, and all of a sudden you have 4000+ girls in Medellin. Its like a buffet of young and for-sale vagina.
Keep in mind - filters are a powerful thing. Make sure you look at lots of pics of the girls to get past the instagram sparkle photo you fell in love with.
Non-Pros / Normal Colombian Girls / Etc
Sex on a first date with a normal Colombia girl is about 75% expected. I have fucked every girl under the sun from receptionists at the Marriott, to Juan Valdez girls, to attorneys, etc. Its a very sex forward culture, and if you manage to get a real date, as long as you are not an ugly cheapskate douchebag, you will score sex on date 1. Here is usually my playbook.
* Im out at a mall and I see an amazing girl working in a clothing store. I look around and tell here Im looking to buy something nice for my mother (or sister) and you get points right away.
* You thank them for helping you, and say maybe they would just like flowers instead. They think its sweet and you still get to talk to them.
* You say I usually never do this type of thing, but would you be open for a drink or dinner? You are just really beautiful and Im new to Colombia If they give you their WhatsApp number, boom, you just got a date.
* Dont be too eager - ask them to text you that night or the next day and arrange something like this. I loved meeting you at ZYX store - how about insert popular dinner place at 7:30pm? While you are there, tell them you have an amazing bottle of wine (or beers if they are drinking beers) at your place and you can go back and listen to music and learn more about each other.
* If her shoes come off - you are going to fuck. Simple as that. If a girl keeps her shoes on once she is inside (unless you have a dirty ass floor), she is not expecting to take her pants off. Shoes off, pants off.
* Put on music SHE likes - almost all Colombians like Reggaeton (or Reggetaon Viejo), electronica or traditional Colombian music. Stand up to dance (even if you cant and after 20 seconds - boom, move in to kiss).
Cosmetic Surgery / Health
Thats right, you read that header correctly. Colombias NUMBER FUCKING TWO export is elective surgery. I have had two hair transplants, gastric surgery, teeth fixes, etc, etc. I literally look 15 years younger, and feel 10x better. Its on average 1/3 the price of the USA and the quality of both care and doctors are better. Every single trip I will get a cleaning facial, vitamin c injection, plasma for my hair, botox, teeth whitening, deep tissue massages are more the only place on earth probably better for low cost and high quality spa-treatments is Pattaya Thailand.
Did you know that girls like fucking men who are more attractive and not lazy slobs? Dress well (in fake brand clothes of course you buy down in el centro), take care of yourself, and all of a sudden you will have girls WANTING to be with you, vs WILLING to be with you for money. Unlike my drug contacts, these contacts Im happy to share with you - PM me if you are interested and not just looking to waste my time. Google search first, and prove you are not just some rando looking for something they will never use and I will happily share details, pricing and more with you if you are serious about getting into better health. Best thing you can do for your sex life is to be active and in shape. I know we go for vacation to fuck, but guys, take the time to workout everyday, (even if its just walking). If you are there long periods of time, join a gym and stare at all the young girls in spandex. Seriously, just get outside and start moving. Your body will thank you.
Vitamins - I know this is an odd thing - but Im telling you this: There are some meds that I just wont travel without:
Sunflower Lecithin - this stuff comes in HUGE horse pills, and taste disgusting. But when paired with 25mg of Zinc you will literally boost your cum production 5x. I like to be able to paint a girls face proper. The more cum you make, the better your orgasm. Plain and simple.
PrEP - this is a prescription medication that is an ANTI-HIV / blocker. If you are barebacking girls in high volume (or any volume), I strongly recommend it.
DoxyCycline - this stuff in combination with PrEP is known to block almost all other STDs / STIS.
HPV vaccine - if you dont have this (its a series of 3 vaccines- fucking get it. Makes you immune to HPV.
The goal here is to fuck as much raw as possible and protect yourself from getting sick. Im also fixed so I dont worry about babies, but guys, these girls are poor as it is, if you make a baby, take care of it. If you dont - youre a trash terrible person and I hope you burn in hell. Babies are Gods gift to this earth.
Drugs
I won't go into the section too much since honestly, I don't recommend using drugs to anyone. I use them from time to time, but only in Colombia. What I will tell you is most younger working girls will perform 2 x as good on Tussi, and it will turn a 1 hour session into 3-4 hours of animal BBFS and passion if you get good stuff. Get your contacts from the girls. The going rate is 65-80 mil COP cada punto. Any less you should not pay as it's either not real, or dangerously cut with fentenol. The only drugs at all I recommend are Tussi, Ecstasy tabs and Coke. Everything else in MDE is trash and likely to get you killed.
Caution / Danger
There are a lot of very poor, very bad and very desperate people when it comes to poverty. If I was poor, would I feel bad about drugging a gringo so I could sell his overpriced phone to get money to feed my kids? You bet your life. I have gone to Colombia more than most people on the forum, and I have NEVER had an issue. Here is what I suggest.
* Put your stuff away. This means when you leave your place, ALWAYS think you might be bringing a girl back. Put your computer away, fancy toiletries, etc. (Girls will steal your cologne in a heart beat if they think they can get away with it). I know its a pain, but this is why I will get 2/3/4 bedrooms and just lock doors. Until I trust a girl, which takes a while there, I dont ever leave them alone in my place.
* Don't "dar papaya". This means. Don't ask to get robbed. Don't walk around with your $1500 US cell phone out snapping pictures like an idiot.
* Don't pull out big money in public. Keep small amounts in one pocket- and your larger amount in a zipper pocket and shift money in private.
* Wear fake jewelry. Most Colombians are anyways, so you will fit in more with a fake Gucci shirt than you will with your idiotic NFL shirt. That is just advertising to get mugged.
* Wear a crossbody bag. Keep your shit in front of you in a bag that clips / straps over your body and you are 100x harder to rob.
* If a girl is not willing to send you a copy of her ID or let you see it / take a picture. WALK AWAY. There are 1000x other hot girls less than 10 minutes away.
* Girls you just met like to offer threesomes as it's 1/2 the work for the same money EACH, and they are safer with a friend. If a girl brings a friend along that you didn't ask for, it's to hustle you. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
* Make sure you take PREP and cycle antibiotics. Girls will say they are clean, but the 5 guys they fucked before might have been lying. I have BBed over 800 girls in MDE and still clean to this day. Prep+Doxycycline pretty much makes you immune to STDS. (Sure it ruins your liver, but fuck livers).
*Remember that Colombia mongering life IS NOT REAL. Don't get sucked into the hype. Your life at home is your life. Once you can't stop thinking about mongering, you have gone too far.
* GET ID! GET ID! GET ID! Colombia police LOVE busting guys for child trafficking. There have been so many hotels closed and guys going to jail in the news recently, you need to be hyper aware here. I have met girls as YOUNG AS 11 years old with 10+ tattoos who could pass for 17/18 who are already working the streets. GUYS. DON'T FUCK LITTLE KIDS. Dont say its the culture there - they are doing it out of desperation. There is a SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL FOR YOU IF YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF / ABUSE CHILDREN
I have been in the best parts, and I guarantee you the WORST parts of Colombia. I MARRIED into a VERY poor family and have seen true desperation and children going hungry. Even then they were some of the KINDEST people I have ever met. Don't be an asshole, be good to humans, and don't be an idiot and you should be ok.
Relationships
I can't count the number of times I have fallen in love in Colombia. Like REAL romantic love. I MARRIED one girl (there are a lot of posts about her in this very forum including great nudes of her too)(I still fucked everything that moved), but I loved this girl with all my heart. I have 10+ girls who I love like little sisters (I still fuck them), but I help them with clothes for school, birthday gifts, have met their families, been to weddings, funerals, Christmas at their house and more. Colombians are some of the most passionate and warm people in the world (probably only 2nd to Brazil). If you are single, you are VERY likely to fall in love - if you do fall in love... please don't make the mistake I made (will continue to make). Just be honest, tell them you like fucking lots of women, and you will find a girl there who will let you fuck everyone and anyone and still love you (if you take care of her and. her family). Word of warning here: I have NEVER seen a hot Colombian woman over 45 years old. These girls AGE HARD. If you are going to get into a relationship, AIM YOUNG (18-23) and you will be dead before they get ugly.
Food / Rappi
Some of the very best food can be found in Colombia! Dont just limit yourself to hotel food, but explore out there and look up good restaurants. Everything from fresh chicharron, to mazorca, to arepas con salsa aji fresco. Guys, even if you are not a foodie you should be eating like a king when in Colombia. I recommend Desayunadero for all you Poblado guys. They have an amazing breakfast/brunch and its an amazing portion. Dont overeat, and make sure you get the food to go to give to homeless people outside vs it just going into the garbage. There other places like Collosal, Oudres Carnes de Res, La Matriaca and more.
Rappi - Rappi is fucking amazing for food delivery, alcohol delivery, CASH delivery from ATMS and more. I use it every country they have it, and WISH they had it in the USA. Uber fucking sucks, dont try to compare it. I can order a burger and beer from Rappi in Medellin and have it in my hands in less than 10 minutes with Rappi turbo. This is great for ordering girls food / alcohol and not waiting forever. You would be amazed and what 40mil COP burger and fries will do.
I dont what category this goes in / Rants
GUYS - GROOM YOUR FUCKING DICK. I cant believe the number of guys who dont do this - the stories I hear from these girls. Keep the hair short, shave your dick and balls and make it look fucking presentable. Holy shit, you would think this is common knowledge, and guys want a nice and clean pussy, but have a gross as crotch themselves. HOLY SHIT guys, seriously. GIRLS TALK TOO. The number of you guys on here that girls talk about with the fat white guy belly, or Indians never shave their balls or some other nonsense. Have good grooming and dont be that guy.
DO NOT RIP GIRLS OFF - I have heard horror stories from girls getting ripped off by gringos and it GIVES US ALL A BAD NAME. If you want pussy, PAY FOR IT. If you rip girls off - they will post pictures of you, and one day that is going to come back to haunt you 10000x harder.
In closing. My years in Colombia have been some of the best of my life. I have become closer to God learning true religious culture. I have fucked literally 100's of women, had 3-somes, 4-somes, 5-somes, and FAR more once with 23 girls + me in a place in Guatape. The smell of vagina was HEAVENLY and one of my best memories in life. I have CIPed enough girls to literally have 200+ kids and I have met some of my very best friends in life there. I have had amazing times where I did too many drugs in a club and a girl would bring be home and her grandmother would make me soup, or been blessed with the chance to help a friend welcome a new baby into their world and attend family lunches, christenings and more. I'm godfather to countless kids, and I help families provide Christmas presented for their kids for Christmas. I have opened businesses there, I employ 85+ people now in Colombia and consider it to be my 2nd home on this planet and I'm part of that community. I'm more Paisa than most Colombians, the biggest difference being I'm pretty damn rich. I enjoy the expensive clubs in Poblado, and the barrio ones on calle 45.
The best advice I can give you, is go with someone who has gone before. Be open to seeing more than just the inside of a young girls panties, and you will have the time of your life. You will see kind people, beautiful women, amazing food, and best of all it will give you perspective into an amazing emerging culture in which you can be a part of. Cheers, and happy hunting!!WOW, what a great post on summing up the scene in Medellin, and it really shows how well you know the scene and seems like your really are on a whole other level. I never even thought of the idea of bringing multiple girls just to party and then networking more or fucking the ones you like. You bring up a lot of good pointers also. 5 star review from me on this, LOL.
Ok guys, it's been a LONG time since I have written a report, but I will do my best to outline this for everyone on what I think is useful I have learned in the past 5 or so years. Also, for haters or the "I don't believe you" crowd out there. Save it, I don't come to ISG often, I won't waste time with replying to nonsense. My next trip to MDE will be from 4/28 - 5/3. If you are not an FNG and have made contributions to this board, please reach out and I'm happy to buy you a beer or share a bottle with you one night at a club.
Flights
I have been flying to MDE now for 5+ years, and I can tell you without a doubt that Spirit sucks, but is great for MDE trips. If you are coming from the S.East USA, then fly Spirit through Miami or FLL. Outside of that, both American does direct flights and Delta does a flight that connects through Bogota. I will usually fly 1st class. / Delta 1 and prices are creeping up. It used to be $600 ish and now D1 is creeping up to $1200 or more. Plan ahead, and look forward to a good sex trip. At any given point, I like to have 4-5 trips ahead planned so I can manage my personal and work life around my mongering life. If you don't know about "Scotts Cheap Flights" which is now called "Going", I suggest you sign up. I have booked tickets almost a year in advance with this service and mongered now in 20+ countries flying in first class on the cheap cost with their help. Thank me later once you snag your first trans-ocean business class flight for under 1 k USD.
The MDE airport is easy. Customs line can be hit or miss, 5 minutes, or 2 hours. Be ready and get there fast to avoid a long wait if you are not on the front of the plane. Just be polite, say tourism, and provide the address of your hotel if they ask. Don't chat, just answer their question and move on. Walk through the Duty Free (Rappi has better prices) and get your luggage. Pick up is right outside. I suggest the white colored cabs. They are official airport cabs, and cost like 20mil more. (100 k from MDE airport to Poblado). Once you know the city and get a few good InDrive or Uber drivers, I get their numbers and now I have a book of guys who I will tell I'm coming into town and see who is available for a pick up at 1/2 the price.
Hotels / AirBnB
I have to apologize. The Hotel Marriott on Calle 1aSur USED TO BE the best hotel in all of Medellin to bring girls. Apparently I was cited as one of the largest reasons it no longer is. I am a 19+ year Ambassador level and the note I got from the GM: The parade of women, working girls and party girls though our hotel lobby HAS to stop, we value your status and you are welcome in the hotel, but perhaps consider another location for your personal activities. I have stayed there 50+ times in the last 5 years (including over 200 days in a row during COVID) and I can without a doubt tell you that if you use a blacklight on any room on the 4th floor pool level, or the presidential suite, it will look like a Jackson Pollock painting because of me.
They still allow "1 guest per day", but I was used to bringing in 5+ girls AT A TIME. If you ever went to La Isla and "saw that asshole who brought 5+ girls TO THE STRIP CLUB", that might have been me. (If he was handsome and dressed in Versace). The hotel is still ABSOLUTELY number one for overall value. The rooms are amazing, pool view is incredible, Nau Sushi Bar and The Market food are outstanding, and the executive lounge food and service is top notch. Also, I might be biased considering I have fucked no less than 20 of their employees as well.
Now I stay in AirBnB. I have stayed everywhere from Poblado, Laurelles to Belen. There are tons of amazing ones, no problems with guests and the occasional security who wants a small bribe but it's good for safety when you get someone who is vigilant. I would share my favorites for AirBnBs, but I don't want you all taking them. Just don't be CHEAP and find a nice 2-3 bedroom so you can lock your shit up and still have girls crash over. I have a 5 bedroom, penthouse I like to rent in Poblado that has a rooftop pool that is less per night than a single night at the Marriott.
Money / Culture / Poverty
USD is king around the world, and can be used here, but COP is the way to go. Dont bother bringing cash, get it all from one of two places: Colpatria ATM if you are in Bogota, or Scotia Bank ATM in Medellin. I can take our 4-5M COP a day with no issues from my accounts, fees are low, and you get market rate exchange. Almost everywhere takes a Visa card and its safe for the most part if you are not an idiot putting your card through a skimmer; Bring cash with you at all times for girls, street food and street fucks so you have a limit. NEVER bring cards to a strip club - bad idea. Get cash, and give yourself a limit before you go.
The COP has been rising drastically in the past 2 years, so Colombia is not as cheap as it used to be, but its still one of the best places in the world to fuck for amazing prices. (That is not in Asia). Dont be a cheap ass, and dont haggle girls who are already offering low prices for their services they dont WANT to fuck you, but NEED to fuck you since they want to eat. For the higher end girls, negotiate these all day - these girls are modern day HUSTLERS and the same girl charging me 200mil COP to me for TLN with BBFS CIP will ask for 800mil from you if they think they can get it. Be fair, but firm. Know what you want/are able to, and know there are girls that you can fuck in that price range.
This is a city where MOST people would be considered impoverished. The average Colombian from the many I know, dated, fucked and am now unofficially related to, have been telling me the average MONTHLY salary is around 1. 5 M COP. $400 USD OR WAYYYYY LESS That being said, you can go to MDE on ANY budget, but here is what I consider to be my "reasonable" My daily budget for girls is about 1M COP. I like all girls from the "el centro" girls for the quick 48 mil COP blowjob to the higher end professional types. I have spend 100 mil in a day, or 20 M in a day and had just a good a time. Set yourself a budget, and splurge when reasonable.
The culture for many in Colombia is "gift me as much as possible", "ask for things" and "pretend offense or hurt if you don't get it all". You have to learn that many folks there are literally poorer than you will EVER be, so they will push HARD to get ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they can from you. Even some of my girls who are 5+ years friendships will try the occasional hustle, and I remind them I love them, and "I will pray for you, that is better than money" and they remember who they are dealing with. I'm not cheap, in fact it's the opposite, I'm SUPER generous to my girls that is why I have so many. But after a few wives (at least they THOUGHT we were married) and too many girlfriends, I have the hang of things to keep the balance of generosity, but not stupid.
Working / Language
I loved Medellin so much I opened not one, but two businesses there. TONS of positive reasons to do this from tax write offs to employing in some way some of my far too numerous girlfriends (and wives). I still have them there, so if you are in software and feel like reaching out, send me a PM. Colombia is a GREAT place for digital nomads. You could go the visa route, but I'm never there more than 90 days. Most places have free wifi and most girls are almost always "sin datos" on their phone.
LEARN SPANISH. THEN learn Paisa. Go there as a gringo and not make basic attempts to speak will be met with "I am going to hustle this person" attitude. Think about it. Someone shows up in your state, speaks some foreign language at you and expects you to just use the translator. Fuck that. Spanish is EASY to learn. Duolingo. Girls will think its cute, and you will get 10 x better fun, sex, friends. Everyone who goes and doesn't speak Spanish. Expect gringo tax, and gringo prices. Plain and simple.
Clubs
If you dont like Reggaeton, Rap, or Electronica, too fucking bad. That is what 95% of the girls who fuck for money like. Put on what they like, go where they like, and you will have a better time. My favorite clubs are as follows:
El Poblado - Icono Club This place has some of the best DJs and is one of the more expensive clubs to go to. Keep in mind electronica clubs here are just tables people stand around and drink/do drugs. They are VERY different than other parts of the world. Text WhatsApp ahead and the DJ list and pricing for the night. Some nights are buy 1 get one 1 free bottles. These are the nights you offer to bring your girl and all her friends. Just let them know that to come out and drink/do drugs sex is expected and you will tip them well if its good. I will usually do 200mil COP each + taxi for a girl who stays all night and if I fucked her. If I didnt fuck her, its just taxi money.
Calle 45 - El Cielo The Heaven Club: This is a barrio club - DO NOT GO HERE unless you have locals with you and you speak amazing Spanish. Im not saying its not safe, Im saying you will just be an asshole for bringing your gringo ass to their club. These clubs will literally be empty until 1am and all of a sudden be full of girls all high as fuck around the tables. Picking up a girl in a club like this is not the goal - the goal is to go and have fun, get high and dance. You might get a few WhatsApp numbers, but best to bring girls there and go back and fuck later. Calle 45 is amazing and has TONS of clubs, restaurants, and more, but its very local. Once you feel local there, you are officially Paisa.
Las Palmas - La Isla - This is a gringo strip-club, through and through. Expect almost ALL the girls to be cosmetically enhanced, and expect them all to ask you for 1M+ COP for sex. They will ask 600mil COP the next day once you get their WhatsApp and settle for 400mil or less. I ALWAYS ALWAYS show up to the strip club with at least 2-3 girls. This lets all girls know right away he already has girls to fuck, so hustling him is not going to happen. I will ask them to sit down with my girls, share champagne, and then get their numbers. Tell them you can come party with us after if you want and 2/3rds of the time I will get the I get off at 2am, where should I meet at reply. If these girls dont get a client, they will come out to drink and potentially get a tip from you later if they think it will happen. This is why I always keep my room stocked with about 50+ cans of JP champagne, Smirnoff Ice, Pedialyte and candy. I forgot to mention, CANDY. When girls use drugs, their bodies will metabolize sugars REALLY fast, and they fucking love candy. Ever wonder why so many girls are sucking on a lolly pop in Medellin? Its not just so you can imagine getting your dick sucked, but most of them are high as fuck and enjoying the sugar.
Fase2 - Its a locals strip club - the girls will try to hustle you if you are not Colombian or know better. Most of the girls there are bigger, but its a cool place to go and chill with a bottle of Jack. I will have girls come sit on my lap and feel them up for an overpriced drink, but its a nice chill spot. They no NOT allow smoking inside.
Parque Lleras - threre a tons of clubs here. They will all try to pull you in and offer free XYZ or free admission. Never pay a penny to go in those clubs (except Gusto, which is 50mil COP). I like many of the clubs, and I will say YMMV based on the night of the week, amount of guys/girls there, holidays, etc. I go to PL to party, and if I dont pull a girl home, Im not upset. I like getting a bottle and having 30+ girls trying to make eye contact with me all night. I can tell within 30 seconds of them sitting down if they will stay or not, I pull the up close, get them a drink, and go for a first kiss. If its not full of passion and tongue, I let them stay until the drink is over, touching their body of course, and then say thank you nicely and they leave.
Girls / Pricing
OK - finally the section you have been waiting for Girls in MDE I would put into these categories below. (Also, I'm listing prices for me, YMMV. I'm mid-40's, attractive, well built, dress well and I'm wealthy). Sorry to those of you who are not, life is not fucking fair, get over it.
What you should know about Colombia girls/women
They will show up late, EVERY FUCKING TIME. NEVER EVER EVER EVER WAIT for a Colombia girl, as you will get angry, it will be 2 hours later, they are still in traffic which means they havent left yet, etc. Those girls have no concept of a real life with priorities and schedules etc (what do you expect of a 19 year old prostitute?). Just be ready for them to be late, and if your time is that important, tell them 30/60 minutes AHEAD of when you need to see them. Once you know a girl well you can say show up on time or I will pay less and then they get the picture. (They will still be late, but less late). Also, send girls away if they dont come DRESSED TO IMPRESS. If a girl shows up not arranged, then send their ass away. A girls cultural and social value in Colombia is EXTREMELY based on their femininity. If they dont show up looking amazing as fuck, tell them to go back and arrange if they want to see you again. (Unless you are going in the pool or something, and then I tell them to bring all their shit to shower and arrange afterwards before we go out)
Keep in mind a lot of these girls will schedule guys IN BETWEEN your visit and another, so if they are running late, they may have another guys dick in them. This is why I always like to invite 2-3 girls so if they are late, I tell them dont bother or have them meet me after I have fucked and they get 1/3 of the money, etc. I used to sit and wait, and get angry about girls and the culture like this now I have learned to adapt and simply flow with it. Never wait to eat for them eat and then when they show up (if they do on time) you order their food. If they are on the way ask them to share their WhatsApp location with you if they dont, they are not on the way.
Overall Tips
Treat girls LIKE HUMAN BEINGS. Have drinks, small snacks, and other niceties in your room and its far better than show up and fuck. A basic trip to the grocery store for what costs next to nothing will give you a 10x better experience, plus, likely to make the girl WANT to be with you. I cant count the times girls will smile and blush when I offer them champagne and order in pizza before smash that young pussy all night :). Girls like to pose in your fancy room for pictures to show off as status to their friends - so what would have been a quick 30 min fuck turns into 3 hours of her there with me taking videos of her, fucking her multiples times, getting her to show me her friends for raw-threesomes and planning to go to a club that night to dance and bring home her whole pack of girlies. Nothing like waking up in the morning to 4-5 girls passed out in bed. I always tell them I like morning sex, so if you wake up with me fucking you, dont be surprised. Uffff sleepy sex :) Some of them will just lay there until you finish and go back to sleep with your cum inside them. SO DAMN HOT.
Street Walkers
- These are the girls you will find in el-centro. Some of these girls fuck the NASTIEST guys (and are NASTY girls themselves). YOU NEED TO WEAR A CONDOM if you go with these girls for sex. Asking price is usually 40-50mil COP for FULL SEX. Dont expect fancy, but you can find the occasional diamond in the rough down there. I like to go to el-centro to eat lunch, buy clothes/shoes/etc and then get a nice long BJ. I will ask to see their smile/teeth and then ass. All I care about is that head bobbing up and down on my dick while I look at their ass in the thong. For a $12 mid-day lunch blow-job, you cant beat it. I dont recommend anything more with these girls, and they are literally ULTRA high volume. (Before you guys tell me some girls go to Lleras that work in el-centro- yep, I know that, but the caliber of street girls who have seen 20,000 dicks in their life and a Lleras girl who is 18-23 and fucking because they want some new sneakers are different). Average looks I would say are 4/5 out of 10.
Parque Lleras (PL) / Bar girls
Fuck BEFORE you to to Parque Lleras and then you wont be ready to fuck the first girl who smiles at you. This is a party spot for gringo and people with moderate/lots of money. Expect girls ranging from 5 all the way to 10 here. They stand in the parque, go inside the clubs, work in the clubs (Gusto) and literally ANY girl in PL is available to fuck. I have fucked more than one waitress, server, the girl selling drinks in the street, etc. That is why they are there. The earlier in the night, the higher price you will get; I suggest going between 9pm - 11pm. Go into a club, buy a bottle and drink, dance and enjoy kissing tons of girls. Talk to them, share your drugs with them (or them with you), have a good time and then around 1am THEN you ask them if they want to leave with you. Most girls will ask for 400-600mil, but most will accept 200-400mil depending upon what you want once its late.
If a girl in the PL wants to leave to fuck quickly, service will be rushed, and they are looking to return to the parque for more clients. Maybe you want a quick smash/dash, and that is fine, but if you do, tell them it will be quick so only 100-200mil. Most girls in PL will do BBJ but ask for a condom for sex - this is actually good since they want to stay clean :). Girls who do no-condom very easy Im very suspicious of (I might still do it though :). Girls who ask for condom sex will usually take it off for another 200mil. If I find a beautiful girl who I can tell who has not had a lot of mileage, Im wanting BBFS for sure and likely will CIP or facial them. Get their WhatsApp, and repeat with these girls before they go to the park and prices come down :).
But YYZ, how can you tell? After 25+ years of doing this I can just tell.. Simple signs are a girl who has normal (or less prostitutey) clothes, and non-VS panties, non-stripper heels and looks like she might be a bit shy or nervous, uff those are my types.
Independents / Prepagos
Most of these girls got started through FB of some online site. (PhotoPrepagos, etc). These are girls who are 5-9 in looks, and range from under the legal age to 25ish. They will advertise somewhere and have a giant list of gringos / foreigners they have already fucked for repeat business. Ever wonder what 1/2 of the girls are doing on their phone while you are out at a club? They are doing 1 of 2 things: MOST LIKLEY posting sexy pictures or angles of them in a club to show how great their life is to their friends, etc. Secondarily its looking at all the other status of the girls to then ask if they can come and party/get paid. These girls are my favorite as once you get a few you like, you get their friends numbers, and your book grows from 3 girls to 700+ after a few years. I checked my contacts this morning and I have over 700 girls in my WhatsApp with the PP prefix in front of it :)
A lot of these girls have become my friends in real life, and when I come in town they come over to chill at the pool, take nice pictures, or just want me to take them out to dinner and fuck them. These girls will ask 300-400 COP AN HOUR, and pricing will all depend upon your looks, age, style, where you are staying, Spanish ability, etc. The more you know them, you will stabilize at usually 400 for TLN + small pleasantries, but that is a tiny price to pay for a girl who is most likely still in high-school / trade school there. REMEMBER to check ID, you dont need to be going to prison over snatch when Medellin is literally the easiest place on the planet to get good pussy.
These are the girls I will go to Victorias secret before I travel and buy all the XS panties in the sale bin. Like 50+ pair. I get TONS of gift bags/boxes and my room is covered in VS boxes. I have had more than a few fall for me romantically, and I have fallen for more than a few of them myself romantically. At any given point, I probably am saying I love you to about 8-9 girls each morning. Hard not to when you wake up at 2am with a 19 year old beauty sucking your dick and sincerly asking me to give them a baby. I have never had to such passionate and good sex when these girls catch feelings for you, and you for them.
Massage Girls
These are the girls who work at the massage parlor, who also escort on the side. You will overpay for sub-par quiet in-house massage parlor sex. Medellin is so open about prostitution, that doing it clandestine is the most likely way to get a bad deal. Go to a legit massage place, get a nice massage, and if you like the girl, ask for WhatsApp and if she gives it to you, then you negotiate price later. You can get a solid REAL massage, and then sex for less money than you likely paid the massage place in the first place. For a REAL massage + Deep cleansing Facial + Sex 400-700mil is a good price. Im talking about the girls who show up in uniform, have all their own tools, bring a massage table, and later you bareback the shit out of that pussy that is something I will pay 700mil COP for. These girls are usually 23 - 35 and still beautiful since they are so hung up on looks as their profession. ALL OF THEM have their own cosmetology business outside of work, and want to make it on my own since the spas there take 70% off the top from them and they provide all the services.
Facebook / Online
Just like TikTok was created to watch teens dance sexy (god bless this application), Facebook is Colombia is like the yellow-pages for Prepagos. Here is how this works. Make yourself a fake account (use your real account and one day gaurentteed you are going to get blackmailed). Once you have a fake account search for Medallo or Medellin in the search bar and look for girls who have an open friend list and all the girls are ridiculously hot. Add about 20-30 per day (overadd and you will get quick banned). Then you just watch all their statuses and the girls who are posting 1/2 naked pics or thong bathing suit pictures in the mirror - there you go. Send them an hola amor and if they reply back - you can ask for a date, tell them you want to see them, and boom - you are connected. Make sure to see an ID if you are not 10000% sure they are overage, Colombian Cops and even the US are using FB as their primary go-to for entrapment of guys for underage sex. Once you get one good solid girl, you add all her friends, and then their friends, and all of a sudden you have 4000+ girls in Medellin. Its like a buffet of young and for-sale vagina.
Keep in mind - filters are a powerful thing. Make sure you look at lots of pics of the girls to get past the instagram sparkle photo you fell in love with.
Non-Pros / Normal Colombian Girls / Etc
Sex on a first date with a normal Colombia girl is about 75% expected. I have fucked every girl under the sun from receptionists at the Marriott, to Juan Valdez girls, to attorneys, etc. Its a very sex forward culture, and if you manage to get a real date, as long as you are not an ugly cheapskate douchebag, you will score sex on date 1. Here is usually my playbook.
* Im out at a mall and I see an amazing girl working in a clothing store. I look around and tell here Im looking to buy something nice for my mother (or sister) and you get points right away.
* You thank them for helping you, and say maybe they would just like flowers instead. They think its sweet and you still get to talk to them.
* You say I usually never do this type of thing, but would you be open for a drink or dinner? You are just really beautiful and Im new to Colombia If they give you their WhatsApp number, boom, you just got a date.
* Dont be too eager - ask them to text you that night or the next day and arrange something like this. I loved meeting you at ZYX store - how about insert popular dinner place at 7:30pm? While you are there, tell them you have an amazing bottle of wine (or beers if they are drinking beers) at your place and you can go back and listen to music and learn more about each other.
* If her shoes come off - you are going to fuck. Simple as that. If a girl keeps her shoes on once she is inside (unless you have a dirty ass floor), she is not expecting to take her pants off. Shoes off, pants off.
* Put on music SHE likes - almost all Colombians like Reggaeton (or Reggetaon Viejo), electronica or traditional Colombian music. Stand up to dance (even if you cant and after 20 seconds - boom, move in to kiss).
Cosmetic Surgery / Health
Thats right, you read that header correctly. Colombias NUMBER FUCKING TWO export is elective surgery. I have had two hair transplants, gastric surgery, teeth fixes, etc, etc. I literally look 15 years younger, and feel 10x better. Its on average 1/3 the price of the USA and the quality of both care and doctors are better. Every single trip I will get a cleaning facial, vitamin c injection, plasma for my hair, botox, teeth whitening, deep tissue massages are more the only place on earth probably better for low cost and high quality spa-treatments is Pattaya Thailand.
Did you know that girls like fucking men who are more attractive and not lazy slobs? Dress well (in fake brand clothes of course you buy down in el centro), take care of yourself, and all of a sudden you will have girls WANTING to be with you, vs WILLING to be with you for money. Unlike my drug contacts, these contacts Im happy to share with you - PM me if you are interested and not just looking to waste my time. Google search first, and prove you are not just some rando looking for something they will never use and I will happily share details, pricing and more with you if you are serious about getting into better health. Best thing you can do for your sex life is to be active and in shape. I know we go for vacation to fuck, but guys, take the time to workout everyday, (even if its just walking). If you are there long periods of time, join a gym and stare at all the young girls in spandex. Seriously, just get outside and start moving. Your body will thank you.
Vitamins - I know this is an odd thing - but Im telling you this: There are some meds that I just wont travel without:
Sunflower Lecithin - this stuff comes in HUGE horse pills, and taste disgusting. But when paired with 25mg of Zinc you will literally boost your cum production 5x. I like to be able to paint a girls face proper. The more cum you make, the better your orgasm. Plain and simple.
PrEP - this is a prescription medication that is an ANTI-HIV / blocker. If you are barebacking girls in high volume (or any volume), I strongly recommend it.
DoxyCycline - this stuff in combination with PrEP is known to block almost all other STDs / STIS.
HPV vaccine - if you dont have this (its a series of 3 vaccines- fucking get it. Makes you immune to HPV.
The goal here is to fuck as much raw as possible and protect yourself from getting sick. Im also fixed so I dont worry about babies, but guys, these girls are poor as it is, if you make a baby, take care of it. If you dont - youre a trash terrible person and I hope you burn in hell. Babies are Gods gift to this earth.
Drugs
I won't go into the section too much since honestly, I don't recommend using drugs to anyone. I use them from time to time, but only in Colombia. What I will tell you is most younger working girls will perform 2 x as good on Tussi, and it will turn a 1 hour session into 3-4 hours of animal BBFS and passion if you get good stuff. Get your contacts from the girls. The going rate is 65-80 mil COP cada punto. Any less you should not pay as it's either not real, or dangerously cut with fentenol. The only drugs at all I recommend are Tussi, Ecstasy tabs and Coke. Everything else in MDE is trash and likely to get you killed.
Caution / Danger
There are a lot of very poor, very bad and very desperate people when it comes to poverty. If I was poor, would I feel bad about drugging a gringo so I could sell his overpriced phone to get money to feed my kids? You bet your life. I have gone to Colombia more than most people on the forum, and I have NEVER had an issue. Here is what I suggest.
* Put your stuff away. This means when you leave your place, ALWAYS think you might be bringing a girl back. Put your computer away, fancy toiletries, etc. (Girls will steal your cologne in a heart beat if they think they can get away with it). I know its a pain, but this is why I will get 2/3/4 bedrooms and just lock doors. Until I trust a girl, which takes a while there, I dont ever leave them alone in my place.
* Don't "dar papaya". This means. Don't ask to get robbed. Don't walk around with your $1500 US cell phone out snapping pictures like an idiot.
* Don't pull out big money in public. Keep small amounts in one pocket- and your larger amount in a zipper pocket and shift money in private.
* Wear fake jewelry. Most Colombians are anyways, so you will fit in more with a fake Gucci shirt than you will with your idiotic NFL shirt. That is just advertising to get mugged.
* Wear a crossbody bag. Keep your shit in front of you in a bag that clips / straps over your body and you are 100x harder to rob.
* If a girl is not willing to send you a copy of her ID or let you see it / take a picture. WALK AWAY. There are 1000x other hot girls less than 10 minutes away.
* Girls you just met like to offer threesomes as it's 1/2 the work for the same money EACH, and they are safer with a friend. If a girl brings a friend along that you didn't ask for, it's to hustle you. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
* Make sure you take PREP and cycle antibiotics. Girls will say they are clean, but the 5 guys they fucked before might have been lying. I have BBed over 800 girls in MDE and still clean to this day. Prep+Doxycycline pretty much makes you immune to STDS. (Sure it ruins your liver, but fuck livers).
*Remember that Colombia mongering life IS NOT REAL. Don't get sucked into the hype. Your life at home is your life. Once you can't stop thinking about mongering, you have gone too far.
* GET ID! GET ID! GET ID! Colombia police LOVE busting guys for child trafficking. There have been so many hotels closed and guys going to jail in the news recently, you need to be hyper aware here. I have met girls as YOUNG AS 11 years old with 10+ tattoos who could pass for 17/18 who are already working the streets. GUYS. DON'T FUCK LITTLE KIDS. Dont say its the culture there - they are doing it out of desperation. There is a SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL FOR YOU IF YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF / ABUSE CHILDREN
I have been in the best parts, and I guarantee you the WORST parts of Colombia. I MARRIED into a VERY poor family and have seen true desperation and children going hungry. Even then they were some of the KINDEST people I have ever met. Don't be an asshole, be good to humans, and don't be an idiot and you should be ok.
Relationships
I can't count the number of times I have fallen in love in Colombia. Like REAL romantic love. I MARRIED one girl (there are a lot of posts about her in this very forum including great nudes of her too)(I still fucked everything that moved), but I loved this girl with all my heart. I have 10+ girls who I love like little sisters (I still fuck them), but I help them with clothes for school, birthday gifts, have met their families, been to weddings, funerals, Christmas at their house and more. Colombians are some of the most passionate and warm people in the world (probably only 2nd to Brazil). If you are single, you are VERY likely to fall in love - if you do fall in love... please don't make the mistake I made (will continue to make). Just be honest, tell them you like fucking lots of women, and you will find a girl there who will let you fuck everyone and anyone and still love you (if you take care of her and. her family). Word of warning here: I have NEVER seen a hot Colombian woman over 45 years old. These girls AGE HARD. If you are going to get into a relationship, AIM YOUNG (18-23) and you will be dead before they get ugly.
Food / Rappi
Some of the very best food can be found in Colombia! Dont just limit yourself to hotel food, but explore out there and look up good restaurants. Everything from fresh chicharron, to mazorca, to arepas con salsa aji fresco. Guys, even if you are not a foodie you should be eating like a king when in Colombia. I recommend Desayunadero for all you Poblado guys. They have an amazing breakfast/brunch and its an amazing portion. Dont overeat, and make sure you get the food to go to give to homeless people outside vs it just going into the garbage. There other places like Collosal, Oudres Carnes de Res, La Matriaca and more.
Rappi - Rappi is fucking amazing for food delivery, alcohol delivery, CASH delivery from ATMS and more. I use it every country they have it, and WISH they had it in the USA. Uber fucking sucks, dont try to compare it. I can order a burger and beer from Rappi in Medellin and have it in my hands in less than 10 minutes with Rappi turbo. This is great for ordering girls food / alcohol and not waiting forever. You would be amazed and what 40mil COP burger and fries will do.
I dont what category this goes in / Rants
GUYS - GROOM YOUR FUCKING DICK. I cant believe the number of guys who dont do this - the stories I hear from these girls. Keep the hair short, shave your dick and balls and make it look fucking presentable. Holy shit, you would think this is common knowledge, and guys want a nice and clean pussy, but have a gross as crotch themselves. HOLY SHIT guys, seriously. GIRLS TALK TOO. The number of you guys on here that girls talk about with the fat white guy belly, or Indians never shave their balls or some other nonsense. Have good grooming and dont be that guy.
DO NOT RIP GIRLS OFF - I have heard horror stories from girls getting ripped off by gringos and it GIVES US ALL A BAD NAME. If you want pussy, PAY FOR IT. If you rip girls off - they will post pictures of you, and one day that is going to come back to haunt you 10000x harder.
In closing. My years in Colombia have been some of the best of my life. I have become closer to God learning true religious culture. I have fucked literally 100's of women, had 3-somes, 4-somes, 5-somes, and FAR more once with 23 girls + me in a place in Guatape. The smell of vagina was HEAVENLY and one of my best memories in life. I have CIPed enough girls to literally have 200+ kids and I have met some of my very best friends in life there. I have had amazing times where I did too many drugs in a club and a girl would bring be home and her grandmother would make me soup, or been blessed with the chance to help a friend welcome a new baby into their world and attend family lunches, christenings and more. I'm godfather to countless kids, and I help families provide Christmas presented for their kids for Christmas. I have opened businesses there, I employ 85+ people now in Colombia and consider it to be my 2nd home on this planet and I'm part of that community. I'm more Paisa than most Colombians, the biggest difference being I'm pretty damn rich. I enjoy the expensive clubs in Poblado, and the barrio ones on calle 45.
The best advice I can give you, is go with someone who has gone before. Be open to seeing more than just the inside of a young girls panties, and you will have the time of your life. You will see kind people, beautiful women, amazing food, and best of all it will give you perspective into an amazing emerging culture in which you can be a part of. Cheers, and happy hunting!!Informative. Cheers for that, even if it reads like Andrew Tate wrote it.
GeorgeCarta22
04-12-24, 07:33
Ok guys, it's been a LONG time since I have written a report, but I will do my best to outline this for everyone on what I think is useful I have learned in the past 5 or so y
The best advice I can give you, is go with someone who has gone before. Be open to seeing more than just the inside of a young girls panties, and you will have the time of your life. You will see kind people, beautiful women, amazing food, and best of all it will give you perspective into an amazing emerging culture in which you can be a part of. Cheers, and happy hunting!!God bless you sir. I appreciate this info. I love the club scene but didn't enjoy my time at la isla. You almost have to buy a bottle in order to enjoy yourself.
Most are not the same girls but we can agree to disagree. LOL. I have seen the girls from El Centro and the girls from Poblado and most are not the same girls. There may be a few but most of the girls from El Centro would not be able to get business in Poblado. I know that you guys think because a few of the girls are the same, that all the girls are the same or most of them but it is not true in my opinion. For guys who have never been, just go to El Centro and check out the girls and see for yourself.At Parque Lleras prices even a lot of the top quality ones will stay untouched so you'll be able to see them standing around along with the undesirable ones. A hot one in El Centro will not be standing around long. There was one in Parque Lleras* that I* definitely thought* was better than anything that I'd seen in Gustos or a lot of the clubs around there. If she went to El Centro she would be gone in a minute. That's because at El Centro prices they are quickly sweeped up. And what is mainly the left overs that nobody wants at el centro for that matter is what you generally see. Of course once the hot ones, new comers or up & comers figure out they can get more money else where that's the last you hear of them there. They usually don't work there long. If you want anything generally good in El Centro its waiting game. You have to be quick and early as well as patient. You have to generally browse through there now and then hoping to get lucky. Of course there's more quality SW's hanging around Parque Llares, but they don't get sweeped up like in El Centro and they don't outnumber the ugly ones as far as the SW's go.
I am not going to reply to the long post by YyzTravel because it repeats the post and takes up a lot of space. I would recommend to guys here that they don't do that. It's annoying.
Anyway, he makes a lot of good points. One point is that you can have a better experience if you make some effort to make yourself look better. This is not to say that you will have difficulty getting girls if you are a fat slob with money but you might have a better experience if you are a fat well-groomed guy who speaks a little Spanish.
Bottled water is not expensive. Why risk a bad reaction?Because bottled water is an environmental disaster and is completely unnecessary in MDE. You're going to have to eat food so the local bugs are going in your gut regardless.
Elvis 2008
04-12-24, 14:34
I got my "sugar baby" from seeking so she is better than your puta from parque lleras. Meanwhile the chicks on seeking do not see themselves as "putas"You have never used seeking, and that is why you [Deleted by Admin] stereotype it. There are hooker types on seeking who are lower than parque Lleras street walkers and there are the 9-10 types in the highest classes of Colombian society. So any time some dummy says "the women on seeking", you know they are full of it and never used it.
The environmental disaster is me. I don't drink tap water anywhere. I'm not worried about the bugs for the reason you, correctly I think, stated. I use tap water to make coffee and for cooking. I don't use it to make salads or ice. I prefer to rely on admittedly imperfect sanitation and maintenance programs of bottling plants rather than water companies' (EPM in Medellin) and my building's maintenance (high rises in Medellin use rooftop tanks to distribute water via the building's plumbing). As you say, it's not really necessary, it's personal preference. If I were on a short visit of one to two weeks I would call it cheap trip insurance. On the other hand, Medellin is thankfully not Flint, Michigan.
Because bottled water is an environmental disaster and is completely unnecessary in MDE. You're going to have to eat food so the local bugs are going in your gut regardless.
Please use GeorgeCarta22's post as an example for how best to reply to a long post. It's annoying to have to scroll through a very long post that is re-posted. Plus, it's a waste of resources.
DiscoverFL
04-12-24, 15:50
I should ask since this will be my first trip to Colombia -- is the tap water in Medellin safe to drink for those of us coming from Canada / USA?Of course, individual locations may vary, but overall, yes. No high levels of bacteria.
Informative. Cheers for that, even if it reads like Andrew Tate wrote it.How old are you? Did you ever get bored after a while.
Please use GeorgeCarta22's post as an example for how best to reply to a long post. It's annoying to have to scroll through a very long post that is re-posted. Plus, it's a waste of resources.Or just learn how to properly use a forum and clip the quote down to the first few sentences.
I am not going to reply to the long post by YyzTravel because it repeats the post and takes up a lot of space. I would recommend to guys here that they don't do that. It's annoying.
Anyway, he makes a lot of good points. One point is that you can have a better experience if you make some effort to make yourself look better. This is not to say that you will have difficulty getting girls if you are a fat slob with money but you might have a better experience if you are a fat well-groomed guy who speaks a little Spanish.I will quote you MoonShot because you are succinct in your responses. I would add: it helps to be freshly showered and well soaped in the crevices. Brush your teeth and buy a bottle of Listerine. It only takes a few minutes of prep and it will improve your sessions.
The only drugs at all I recommend are Tussi, Ecstasy tabs and Coke. Everything else in MDE is trash and likely to get you killed.
No problems with 'coke dick' and / or 'pilly willy' ?
Excellent report my man! Thank you! I would like to take you up on your offer next time I am on this side of the world.
Ok guys, it's been a LONG time since I have written a report, but I will do my best to outline this for everyone on what I think is useful I have learned in the past 5 or so years. Also, for haters or the "I don't believe you" crowd out there. Save it, I don't come to ISG often, I won't waste time with replying to nonsense. My next trip to MDE will be from 4/28 - 5/3. If you are not an FNG and have made contributions to this board, please reach out and I'm happy to buy you a beer or share a bottle with you one night at a club.
Flights
I have been flying to MDE now for 5+ years, and I can tell you without a doubt that Spirit sucks, but is great for MDE trips. If you are coming from the S.East USA, then fly Spirit through Miami or FLL. Outside of that, both American does direct flights and Delta does a flight that connects through Bogota. I will usually fly 1st class. / Delta 1 and prices are creeping up. It used to be $600 ish and now D1 is creeping up to $1200 or more. Plan ahead, and look forward to a good sex trip. At any given point, I like to have 4-5 trips ahead planned so I can manage my personal and work life around my mongering life. If you don't know about "Scotts Cheap Flights" which is now called "Going", I suggest you sign up. I have booked tickets almost a year in advance with this service and mongered now in 20+ countries flying in first class on the cheap cost with their help. Thank me later once you snag your first trans-ocean business class flight for under 1 k USD.
The MDE airport is easy. Customs line can be hit or miss, 5 minutes, or 2 hours. Be ready and get there fast to avoid a long wait if you are not on the front of the plane. Just be polite, say tourism, and provide the address of your hotel if they ask. Don't chat, just answer their question and move on. Walk through the Duty Free (Rappi has better prices) and get your luggage. Pick up is right outside. I suggest the white colored cabs. They are official airport cabs, and cost like 20mil more. (100 k from MDE airport to Poblado). Once you know the city and get a few good InDrive or Uber drivers, I get their numbers and now I have a book of guys who I will tell I'm coming into town and see who is available for a pick up at 1/2 the price.
Hotels / AirBnB
I have to apologize. The Hotel Marriott on Calle 1aSur USED TO BE the best hotel in all of Medellin to bring girls. Apparently I was cited as one of the largest reasons it no longer is. I am a 19+ year Ambassador level and the note I got from the GM: The parade of women, working girls and party girls though our hotel lobby HAS to stop, we value your status and you are welcome in the hotel, but perhaps consider another location for your personal activities. I have stayed there 50+ times in the last 5 years (including over 200 days in a row during COVID) and I can without a doubt tell you that if you use a blacklight on any room on the 4th floor pool level, or the presidential suite, it will look like a Jackson Pollock painting because of me.
They still allow "1 guest per day", but I was used to bringing in 5+ girls AT A TIME. If you ever went to La Isla and "saw that asshole who brought 5+ girls TO THE STRIP CLUB", that might have been me. (If he was handsome and dressed in Versace). The hotel is still ABSOLUTELY number one for overall value. The rooms are amazing, pool view is incredible, Nau Sushi Bar and The Market food are outstanding, and the executive lounge food and service is top notch. Also, I might be biased considering I have fucked no less than 20 of their employees as well.
Now I stay in AirBnB. I have stayed everywhere from Poblado, Laurelles to Belen. There are tons of amazing ones, no problems with guests and the occasional security who wants a small bribe but it's good for safety when you get someone who is vigilant. I would share my favorites for AirBnBs, but I don't want you all taking them. Just don't be CHEAP and find a nice 2-3 bedroom so you can lock your shit up and still have girls crash over. I have a 5 bedroom, penthouse I like to rent in Poblado that has a rooftop pool that is less per night than a single night at the Marriott.
Money / Culture / Poverty
USD is king around the world, and can be used here, but COP is the way to go. Dont bother bringing cash, get it all from one of two places: Colpatria ATM if you are in Bogota, or Scotia Bank ATM in Medellin. I can take our 4-5M COP a day with no issues from my accounts, fees are low, and you get market rate exchange. Almost everywhere takes a Visa card and its safe for the most part if you are not an idiot putting your card through a skimmer; Bring cash with you at all times for girls, street food and street fucks so you have a limit. NEVER bring cards to a strip club - bad idea. Get cash, and give yourself a limit before you go.
The COP has been rising drastically in the past 2 years, so Colombia is not as cheap as it used to be, but its still one of the best places in the world to fuck for amazing prices. (That is not in Asia). Dont be a cheap ass, and dont haggle girls who are already offering low prices for their services they dont WANT to fuck you, but NEED to fuck you since they want to eat. For the higher end girls, negotiate these all day - these girls are modern day HUSTLERS and the same girl charging me 200mil COP to me for TLN with BBFS CIP will ask for 800mil from you if they think they can get it. Be fair, but firm. Know what you want/are able to, and know there are girls that you can fuck in that price range.
This is a city where MOST people would be considered impoverished. The average Colombian from the many I know, dated, fucked and am now unofficially related to, have been telling me the average MONTHLY salary is around 1. 5 M COP. $400 USD OR WAYYYYY LESS That being said, you can go to MDE on ANY budget, but here is what I consider to be my "reasonable" My daily budget for girls is about 1M COP. I like all girls from the "el centro" girls for the quick 48 mil COP blowjob to the higher end professional types. I have spend 100 mil in a day, or 20 M in a day and had just a good a time. Set yourself a budget, and splurge when reasonable.
The culture for many in Colombia is "gift me as much as possible", "ask for things" and "pretend offense or hurt if you don't get it all". You have to learn that many folks there are literally poorer than you will EVER be, so they will push HARD to get ANYTHING and EVERYTHING they can from you. Even some of my girls who are 5+ years friendships will try the occasional hustle, and I remind them I love them, and "I will pray for you, that is better than money" and they remember who they are dealing with. I'm not cheap, in fact it's the opposite, I'm SUPER generous to my girls that is why I have so many. But after a few wives (at least they THOUGHT we were married) and too many girlfriends, I have the hang of things to keep the balance of generosity, but not stupid.
Working / Language
I loved Medellin so much I opened not one, but two businesses there. TONS of positive reasons to do this from tax write offs to employing in some way some of my far too numerous girlfriends (and wives). I still have them there, so if you are in software and feel like reaching out, send me a PM. Colombia is a GREAT place for digital nomads. You could go the visa route, but I'm never there more than 90 days. Most places have free wifi and most girls are almost always "sin datos" on their phone.
LEARN SPANISH. THEN learn Paisa. Go there as a gringo and not make basic attempts to speak will be met with "I am going to hustle this person" attitude. Think about it. Someone shows up in your state, speaks some foreign language at you and expects you to just use the translator. Fuck that. Spanish is EASY to learn. Duolingo. Girls will think its cute, and you will get 10 x better fun, sex, friends. Everyone who goes and doesn't speak Spanish. Expect gringo tax, and gringo prices. Plain and simple.
Clubs
If you dont like Reggaeton, Rap, or Electronica, too fucking bad. That is what 95% of the girls who fuck for money like. Put on what they like, go where they like, and you will have a better time. My favorite clubs are as follows:
El Poblado - Icono Club This place has some of the best DJs and is one of the more expensive clubs to go to. Keep in mind electronica clubs here are just tables people stand around and drink/do drugs. They are VERY different than other parts of the world. Text WhatsApp ahead and the DJ list and pricing for the night. Some nights are buy 1 get one 1 free bottles. These are the nights you offer to bring your girl and all her friends. Just let them know that to come out and drink/do drugs sex is expected and you will tip them well if its good. I will usually do 200mil COP each + taxi for a girl who stays all night and if I fucked her. If I didnt fuck her, its just taxi money.
Calle 45 - El Cielo The Heaven Club: This is a barrio club - DO NOT GO HERE unless you have locals with you and you speak amazing Spanish. Im not saying its not safe, Im saying you will just be an asshole for bringing your gringo ass to their club. These clubs will literally be empty until 1am and all of a sudden be full of girls all high as fuck around the tables. Picking up a girl in a club like this is not the goal - the goal is to go and have fun, get high and dance. You might get a few WhatsApp numbers, but best to bring girls there and go back and fuck later. Calle 45 is amazing and has TONS of clubs, restaurants, and more, but its very local. Once you feel local there, you are officially Paisa.
Las Palmas - La Isla - This is a gringo strip-club, through and through. Expect almost ALL the girls to be cosmetically enhanced, and expect them all to ask you for 1M+ COP for sex. They will ask 600mil COP the next day once you get their WhatsApp and settle for 400mil or less. I ALWAYS ALWAYS show up to the strip club with at least 2-3 girls. This lets all girls know right away he already has girls to fuck, so hustling him is not going to happen. I will ask them to sit down with my girls, share champagne, and then get their numbers. Tell them you can come party with us after if you want and 2/3rds of the time I will get the I get off at 2am, where should I meet at reply. If these girls dont get a client, they will come out to drink and potentially get a tip from you later if they think it will happen. This is why I always keep my room stocked with about 50+ cans of JP champagne, Smirnoff Ice, Pedialyte and candy. I forgot to mention, CANDY. When girls use drugs, their bodies will metabolize sugars REALLY fast, and they fucking love candy. Ever wonder why so many girls are sucking on a lolly pop in Medellin? Its not just so you can imagine getting your dick sucked, but most of them are high as fuck and enjoying the sugar.
Fase2 - Its a locals strip club - the girls will try to hustle you if you are not Colombian or know better. Most of the girls there are bigger, but its a cool place to go and chill with a bottle of Jack. I will have girls come sit on my lap and feel them up for an overpriced drink, but its a nice chill spot. They no NOT allow smoking inside.
Parque Lleras - threre a tons of clubs here. They will all try to pull you in and offer free XYZ or free admission. Never pay a penny to go in those clubs (except Gusto, which is 50mil COP). I like many of the clubs, and I will say YMMV based on the night of the week, amount of guys/girls there, holidays, etc. I go to PL to party, and if I dont pull a girl home, Im not upset. I like getting a bottle and having 30+ girls trying to make eye contact with me all night. I can tell within 30 seconds of them sitting down if they will stay or not, I pull the up close, get them a drink, and go for a first kiss. If its not full of passion and tongue, I let them stay until the drink is over, touching their body of course, and then say thank you nicely and they leave.
Girls / Pricing
OK - finally the section you have been waiting for Girls in MDE I would put into these categories below. (Also, I'm listing prices for me, YMMV. I'm mid-40's, attractive, well built, dress well and I'm wealthy). Sorry to those of you who are not, life is not fucking fair, get over it.
What you should know about Colombia girls/women
They will show up late, EVERY FUCKING TIME. NEVER EVER EVER EVER WAIT for a Colombia girl, as you will get angry, it will be 2 hours later, they are still in traffic which means they havent left yet, etc. Those girls have no concept of a real life with priorities and schedules etc (what do you expect of a 19 year old prostitute?). Just be ready for them to be late, and if your time is that important, tell them 30/60 minutes AHEAD of when you need to see them. Once you know a girl well you can say show up on time or I will pay less and then they get the picture. (They will still be late, but less late). Also, send girls away if they dont come DRESSED TO IMPRESS. If a girl shows up not arranged, then send their ass away. A girls cultural and social value in Colombia is EXTREMELY based on their femininity. If they dont show up looking amazing as fuck, tell them to go back and arrange if they want to see you again. (Unless you are going in the pool or something, and then I tell them to bring all their shit to shower and arrange afterwards before we go out)
Keep in mind a lot of these girls will schedule guys IN BETWEEN your visit and another, so if they are running late, they may have another guys dick in them. This is why I always like to invite 2-3 girls so if they are late, I tell them dont bother or have them meet me after I have fucked and they get 1/3 of the money, etc. I used to sit and wait, and get angry about girls and the culture like this now I have learned to adapt and simply flow with it. Never wait to eat for them eat and then when they show up (if they do on time) you order their food. If they are on the way ask them to share their WhatsApp location with you if they dont, they are not on the way.
Overall Tips
Treat girls LIKE HUMAN BEINGS. Have drinks, small snacks, and other niceties in your room and its far better than show up and fuck. A basic trip to the grocery store for what costs next to nothing will give you a 10x better experience, plus, likely to make the girl WANT to be with you. I cant count the times girls will smile and blush when I offer them champagne and order in pizza before smash that young pussy all night :). Girls like to pose in your fancy room for pictures to show off as status to their friends - so what would have been a quick 30 min fuck turns into 3 hours of her there with me taking videos of her, fucking her multiples times, getting her to show me her friends for raw-threesomes and planning to go to a club that night to dance and bring home her whole pack of girlies. Nothing like waking up in the morning to 4-5 girls passed out in bed. I always tell them I like morning sex, so if you wake up with me fucking you, dont be surprised. Uffff sleepy sex :) Some of them will just lay there until you finish and go back to sleep with your cum inside them. SO DAMN HOT.
Street Walkers
- These are the girls you will find in el-centro. Some of these girls fuck the NASTIEST guys (and are NASTY girls themselves). YOU NEED TO WEAR A CONDOM if you go with these girls for sex. Asking price is usually 40-50mil COP for FULL SEX. Dont expect fancy, but you can find the occasional diamond in the rough down there. I like to go to el-centro to eat lunch, buy clothes/shoes/etc and then get a nice long BJ. I will ask to see their smile/teeth and then ass. All I care about is that head bobbing up and down on my dick while I look at their ass in the thong. For a $12 mid-day lunch blow-job, you cant beat it. I dont recommend anything more with these girls, and they are literally ULTRA high volume. (Before you guys tell me some girls go to Lleras that work in el-centro- yep, I know that, but the caliber of street girls who have seen 20,000 dicks in their life and a Lleras girl who is 18-23 and fucking because they want some new sneakers are different). Average looks I would say are 4/5 out of 10.
Parque Lleras (PL) / Bar girls
Fuck BEFORE you to to Parque Lleras and then you wont be ready to fuck the first girl who smiles at you. This is a party spot for gringo and people with moderate/lots of money. Expect girls ranging from 5 all the way to 10 here. They stand in the parque, go inside the clubs, work in the clubs (Gusto) and literally ANY girl in PL is available to fuck. I have fucked more than one waitress, server, the girl selling drinks in the street, etc. That is why they are there. The earlier in the night, the higher price you will get; I suggest going between 9pm - 11pm. Go into a club, buy a bottle and drink, dance and enjoy kissing tons of girls. Talk to them, share your drugs with them (or them with you), have a good time and then around 1am THEN you ask them if they want to leave with you. Most girls will ask for 400-600mil, but most will accept 200-400mil depending upon what you want once its late.
If a girl in the PL wants to leave to fuck quickly, service will be rushed, and they are looking to return to the parque for more clients. Maybe you want a quick smash/dash, and that is fine, but if you do, tell them it will be quick so only 100-200mil. Most girls in PL will do BBJ but ask for a condom for sex - this is actually good since they want to stay clean :). Girls who do no-condom very easy Im very suspicious of (I might still do it though :). Girls who ask for condom sex will usually take it off for another 200mil. If I find a beautiful girl who I can tell who has not had a lot of mileage, Im wanting BBFS for sure and likely will CIP or facial them. Get their WhatsApp, and repeat with these girls before they go to the park and prices come down :).
But YYZ, how can you tell? After 25+ years of doing this I can just tell.. Simple signs are a girl who has normal (or less prostitutey) clothes, and non-VS panties, non-stripper heels and looks like she might be a bit shy or nervous, uff those are my types.
Independents / Prepagos
Most of these girls got started through FB of some online site. (PhotoPrepagos, etc). These are girls who are 5-9 in looks, and range from under the legal age to 25ish. They will advertise somewhere and have a giant list of gringos / foreigners they have already fucked for repeat business. Ever wonder what 1/2 of the girls are doing on their phone while you are out at a club? They are doing 1 of 2 things: MOST LIKLEY posting sexy pictures or angles of them in a club to show how great their life is to their friends, etc. Secondarily its looking at all the other status of the girls to then ask if they can come and party/get paid. These girls are my favorite as once you get a few you like, you get their friends numbers, and your book grows from 3 girls to 700+ after a few years. I checked my contacts this morning and I have over 700 girls in my WhatsApp with the PP prefix in front of it :)
A lot of these girls have become my friends in real life, and when I come in town they come over to chill at the pool, take nice pictures, or just want me to take them out to dinner and fuck them. These girls will ask 300-400 COP AN HOUR, and pricing will all depend upon your looks, age, style, where you are staying, Spanish ability, etc. The more you know them, you will stabilize at usually 400 for TLN + small pleasantries, but that is a tiny price to pay for a girl who is most likely still in high-school / trade school there. REMEMBER to check ID, you dont need to be going to prison over snatch when Medellin is literally the easiest place on the planet to get good pussy.
These are the girls I will go to Victorias secret before I travel and buy all the XS panties in the sale bin. Like 50+ pair. I get TONS of gift bags/boxes and my room is covered in VS boxes. I have had more than a few fall for me romantically, and I have fallen for more than a few of them myself romantically. At any given point, I probably am saying I love you to about 8-9 girls each morning. Hard not to when you wake up at 2am with a 19 year old beauty sucking your dick and sincerly asking me to give them a baby. I have never had to such passionate and good sex when these girls catch feelings for you, and you for them.
Massage Girls
These are the girls who work at the massage parlor, who also escort on the side. You will overpay for sub-par quiet in-house massage parlor sex. Medellin is so open about prostitution, that doing it clandestine is the most likely way to get a bad deal. Go to a legit massage place, get a nice massage, and if you like the girl, ask for WhatsApp and if she gives it to you, then you negotiate price later. You can get a solid REAL massage, and then sex for less money than you likely paid the massage place in the first place. For a REAL massage + Deep cleansing Facial + Sex 400-700mil is a good price. Im talking about the girls who show up in uniform, have all their own tools, bring a massage table, and later you bareback the shit out of that pussy that is something I will pay 700mil COP for. These girls are usually 23 - 35 and still beautiful since they are so hung up on looks as their profession. ALL OF THEM have their own cosmetology business outside of work, and want to make it on my own since the spas there take 70% off the top from them and they provide all the services.
Facebook / Online
Just like TikTok was created to watch teens dance sexy (god bless this application), Facebook is Colombia is like the yellow-pages for Prepagos. Here is how this works. Make yourself a fake account (use your real account and one day gaurentteed you are going to get blackmailed). Once you have a fake account search for Medallo or Medellin in the search bar and look for girls who have an open friend list and all the girls are ridiculously hot. Add about 20-30 per day (overadd and you will get quick banned). Then you just watch all their statuses and the girls who are posting 1/2 naked pics or thong bathing suit pictures in the mirror - there you go. Send them an hola amor and if they reply back - you can ask for a date, tell them you want to see them, and boom - you are connected. Make sure to see an ID if you are not 10000% sure they are overage, Colombian Cops and even the US are using FB as their primary go-to for entrapment of guys for underage sex. Once you get one good solid girl, you add all her friends, and then their friends, and all of a sudden you have 4000+ girls in Medellin. Its like a buffet of young and for-sale vagina.
Keep in mind - filters are a powerful thing. Make sure you look at lots of pics of the girls to get past the instagram sparkle photo you fell in love with.
Non-Pros / Normal Colombian Girls / Etc
Sex on a first date with a normal Colombia girl is about 75% expected. I have fucked every girl under the sun from receptionists at the Marriott, to Juan Valdez girls, to attorneys, etc. Its a very sex forward culture, and if you manage to get a real date, as long as you are not an ugly cheapskate douchebag, you will score sex on date 1. Here is usually my playbook.
* Im out at a mall and I see an amazing girl working in a clothing store. I look around and tell here Im looking to buy something nice for my mother (or sister) and you get points right away.
* You thank them for helping you, and say maybe they would just like flowers instead. They think its sweet and you still get to talk to them.
* You say I usually never do this type of thing, but would you be open for a drink or dinner? You are just really beautiful and Im new to Colombia If they give you their WhatsApp number, boom, you just got a date.
* Dont be too eager - ask them to text you that night or the next day and arrange something like this. I loved meeting you at ZYX store - how about insert popular dinner place at 7:30pm? While you are there, tell them you have an amazing bottle of wine (or beers if they are drinking beers) at your place and you can go back and listen to music and learn more about each other.
* If her shoes come off - you are going to fuck. Simple as that. If a girl keeps her shoes on once she is inside (unless you have a dirty ass floor), she is not expecting to take her pants off. Shoes off, pants off.
* Put on music SHE likes - almost all Colombians like Reggaeton (or Reggetaon Viejo), electronica or traditional Colombian music. Stand up to dance (even if you cant and after 20 seconds - boom, move in to kiss).
Cosmetic Surgery / Health
Thats right, you read that header correctly. Colombias NUMBER FUCKING TWO export is elective surgery. I have had two hair transplants, gastric surgery, teeth fixes, etc, etc. I literally look 15 years younger, and feel 10x better. Its on average 1/3 the price of the USA and the quality of both care and doctors are better. Every single trip I will get a cleaning facial, vitamin c injection, plasma for my hair, botox, teeth whitening, deep tissue massages are more the only place on earth probably better for low cost and high quality spa-treatments is Pattaya Thailand.
Did you know that girls like fucking men who are more attractive and not lazy slobs? Dress well (in fake brand clothes of course you buy down in el centro), take care of yourself, and all of a sudden you will have girls WANTING to be with you, vs WILLING to be with you for money. Unlike my drug contacts, these contacts Im happy to share with you - PM me if you are interested and not just looking to waste my time. Google search first, and prove you are not just some rando looking for something they will never use and I will happily share details, pricing and more with you if you are serious about getting into better health. Best thing you can do for your sex life is to be active and in shape. I know we go for vacation to fuck, but guys, take the time to workout everyday, (even if its just walking). If you are there long periods of time, join a gym and stare at all the young girls in spandex. Seriously, just get outside and start moving. Your body will thank you.
Vitamins - I know this is an odd thing - but Im telling you this: There are some meds that I just wont travel without:
Sunflower Lecithin - this stuff comes in HUGE horse pills, and taste disgusting. But when paired with 25mg of Zinc you will literally boost your cum production 5x. I like to be able to paint a girls face proper. The more cum you make, the better your orgasm. Plain and simple.
PrEP - this is a prescription medication that is an ANTI-HIV / blocker. If you are barebacking girls in high volume (or any volume), I strongly recommend it.
DoxyCycline - this stuff in combination with PrEP is known to block almost all other STDs / STIS.
HPV vaccine - if you dont have this (its a series of 3 vaccines- fucking get it. Makes you immune to HPV.
The goal here is to fuck as much raw as possible and protect yourself from getting sick. Im also fixed so I dont worry about babies, but guys, these girls are poor as it is, if you make a baby, take care of it. If you dont - youre a trash terrible person and I hope you burn in hell. Babies are Gods gift to this earth.
Drugs
I won't go into the section too much since honestly, I don't recommend using drugs to anyone. I use them from time to time, but only in Colombia. What I will tell you is most younger working girls will perform 2 x as good on Tussi, and it will turn a 1 hour session into 3-4 hours of animal BBFS and passion if you get good stuff. Get your contacts from the girls. The going rate is 65-80 mil COP cada punto. Any less you should not pay as it's either not real, or dangerously cut with fentenol. The only drugs at all I recommend are Tussi, Ecstasy tabs and Coke. Everything else in MDE is trash and likely to get you killed.
Caution / Danger
There are a lot of very poor, very bad and very desperate people when it comes to poverty. If I was poor, would I feel bad about drugging a gringo so I could sell his overpriced phone to get money to feed my kids? You bet your life. I have gone to Colombia more than most people on the forum, and I have NEVER had an issue. Here is what I suggest.
* Put your stuff away. This means when you leave your place, ALWAYS think you might be bringing a girl back. Put your computer away, fancy toiletries, etc. (Girls will steal your cologne in a heart beat if they think they can get away with it). I know its a pain, but this is why I will get 2/3/4 bedrooms and just lock doors. Until I trust a girl, which takes a while there, I dont ever leave them alone in my place.
* Don't "dar papaya". This means. Don't ask to get robbed. Don't walk around with your $1500 US cell phone out snapping pictures like an idiot.
* Don't pull out big money in public. Keep small amounts in one pocket- and your larger amount in a zipper pocket and shift money in private.
* Wear fake jewelry. Most Colombians are anyways, so you will fit in more with a fake Gucci shirt than you will with your idiotic NFL shirt. That is just advertising to get mugged.
* Wear a crossbody bag. Keep your shit in front of you in a bag that clips / straps over your body and you are 100x harder to rob.
* If a girl is not willing to send you a copy of her ID or let you see it / take a picture. WALK AWAY. There are 1000x other hot girls less than 10 minutes away.
* Girls you just met like to offer threesomes as it's 1/2 the work for the same money EACH, and they are safer with a friend. If a girl brings a friend along that you didn't ask for, it's to hustle you. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
* Make sure you take PREP and cycle antibiotics. Girls will say they are clean, but the 5 guys they fucked before might have been lying. I have BBed over 800 girls in MDE and still clean to this day. Prep+Doxycycline pretty much makes you immune to STDS. (Sure it ruins your liver, but fuck livers).
*Remember that Colombia mongering life IS NOT REAL. Don't get sucked into the hype. Your life at home is your life. Once you can't stop thinking about mongering, you have gone too far.
* GET ID! GET ID! GET ID! Colombia police LOVE busting guys for child trafficking. There have been so many hotels closed and guys going to jail in the news recently, you need to be hyper aware here. I have met girls as YOUNG AS 11 years old with 10+ tattoos who could pass for 17/18 who are already working the streets. GUYS. DON'T FUCK LITTLE KIDS. Dont say its the culture there - they are doing it out of desperation. There is a SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL FOR YOU IF YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF / ABUSE CHILDREN
I have been in the best parts, and I guarantee you the WORST parts of Colombia. I MARRIED into a VERY poor family and have seen true desperation and children going hungry. Even then they were some of the KINDEST people I have ever met. Don't be an asshole, be good to humans, and don't be an idiot and you should be ok.
Relationships
I can't count the number of times I have fallen in love in Colombia. Like REAL romantic love. I MARRIED one girl (there are a lot of posts about her in this very forum including great nudes of her too)(I still fucked everything that moved), but I loved this girl with all my heart. I have 10+ girls who I love like little sisters (I still fuck them), but I help them with clothes for school, birthday gifts, have met their families, been to weddings, funerals, Christmas at their house and more. Colombians are some of the most passionate and warm people in the world (probably only 2nd to Brazil). If you are single, you are VERY likely to fall in love - if you do fall in love... please don't make the mistake I made (will continue to make). Just be honest, tell them you like fucking lots of women, and you will find a girl there who will let you fuck everyone and anyone and still love you (if you take care of her and. her family). Word of warning here: I have NEVER seen a hot Colombian woman over 45 years old. These girls AGE HARD. If you are going to get into a relationship, AIM YOUNG (18-23) and you will be dead before they get ugly.
Food / Rappi
Some of the very best food can be found in Colombia! Dont just limit yourself to hotel food, but explore out there and look up good restaurants. Everything from fresh chicharron, to mazorca, to arepas con salsa aji fresco. Guys, even if you are not a foodie you should be eating like a king when in Colombia. I recommend Desayunadero for all you Poblado guys. They have an amazing breakfast/brunch and its an amazing portion. Dont overeat, and make sure you get the food to go to give to homeless people outside vs it just going into the garbage. There other places like Collosal, Oudres Carnes de Res, La Matriaca and more.
Rappi - Rappi is fucking amazing for food delivery, alcohol delivery, CASH delivery from ATMS and more. I use it every country they have it, and WISH they had it in the USA. Uber fucking sucks, dont try to compare it. I can order a burger and beer from Rappi in Medellin and have it in my hands in less than 10 minutes with Rappi turbo. This is great for ordering girls food / alcohol and not waiting forever. You would be amazed and what 40mil COP burger and fries will do.
I dont what category this goes in / Rants
GUYS - GROOM YOUR FUCKING DICK. I cant believe the number of guys who dont do this - the stories I hear from these girls. Keep the hair short, shave your dick and balls and make it look fucking presentable. Holy shit, you would think this is common knowledge, and guys want a nice and clean pussy, but have a gross as crotch themselves. HOLY SHIT guys, seriously. GIRLS TALK TOO. The number of you guys on here that girls talk about with the fat white guy belly, or Indians never shave their balls or some other nonsense. Have good grooming and dont be that guy.
DO NOT RIP GIRLS OFF - I have heard horror stories from girls getting ripped off by gringos and it GIVES US ALL A BAD NAME. If you want pussy, PAY FOR IT. If you rip girls off - they will post pictures of you, and one day that is going to come back to haunt you 10000x harder.
In closing. My years in Colombia have been some of the best of my life. I have become closer to God learning true religious culture. I have fucked literally 100's of women, had 3-somes, 4-somes, 5-somes, and FAR more once with 23 girls + me in a place in Guatape. The smell of vagina was HEAVENLY and one of my best memories in life. I have CIPed enough girls to literally have 200+ kids and I have met some of my very best friends in life there. I have had amazing times where I did too many drugs in a club and a girl would bring be home and her grandmother would make me soup, or been blessed with the chance to help a friend welcome a new baby into their world and attend family lunches, christenings and more. I'm godfather to countless kids, and I help families provide Christmas presented for their kids for Christmas. I have opened businesses there, I employ 85+ people now in Colombia and consider it to be my 2nd home on this planet and I'm part of that community. I'm more Paisa than most Colombians, the biggest difference being I'm pretty damn rich. I enjoy the expensive clubs in Poblado, and the barrio ones on calle 45.
The best advice I can give you, is go with someone who has gone before. Be open to seeing more than just the inside of a young girls panties, and you will have the time of your life. You will see kind people, beautiful women, amazing food, and best of all it will give you perspective into an amazing emerging culture in which you can be a part of. Cheers, and happy hunting!!
Was his goal to save the children or get his picture in the media? You be the judge.
Flyers says "Say No to Sex tourism".
I love this guy LOL.
Are you sure the clubs are open past 1 am, and if so, what time are they closing? Reports were the mayor was pissed and this was supposed to happen for 6 months. Good news if that is the case though.
On another note, yes, drinks are very expensive at the clubs so if you want to save money you can drink before you go, buy a bottle with 2 friends for 200, go out of the club and buy drinks next door at those mini market type liquor stores, or stick with beer. Just giving tips.I'm positive. Clubs are staying open past 1am. I'm here now.
Ok guys, it's been a LONG time since I have written a report, but I will do my best to outline this for everyone on what I think is useful I have learned in the past 5 or so years. Also, for haters or the "I don't believe you" crowd out there. Save it, I don't come to ISG often, I won't waste time with replying to nonsense. My next trip to MDE will be from 4/28 - 5/3. If you are not an FNG and have made contributions to this board, please reach out and I'm happy to buy you a beer or share a bottle with you one night at a club.This might be the best post I ever read on any forum in 30+ years of mongering all over the world. It ought to be pinned to the top of this thread. Just about everything written could be applied to nearly every other country in SA, CA and Asia. I'm (very) HO. Thanks for a great read in a sea of blathering minutia!
StudBucket
04-13-24, 08:15
I'm positive. Clubs are staying open past 1am. I'm here now.Awesome, is there less talent around Parque Lleras or still plent of girls there? I like drifting between working the talent in the clubs and outside the clubs in PL. I appreciate the information as we have a trip end of May and I was almost going to cancel due to the bad reports recently.
StudBucket
04-13-24, 08:19
I am placing Yzy's post into Links to Reports of Distinction. Again, great job.
Excellent report my man! Thank you! I would like to take you up on your offer next time I am on this side of the world.This is the fourth time the long post has been repeated, taking up a lot of space. Lets try a little harder not to reply to the long post. You can post a comment about it without replying to it. I know you guys like it but we don't have to keep posting it again and again.
Because bottled water is an environmental disaster and is completely unnecessary in MDE. You're going to have to eat food so the local bugs are going in your gut regardless.Tap water is probably safe until it isn't. Safe if there have been no "low pressure" events in the system. But as soon as the water pressure is off there can be infiltration and then without super chlorination and pipe flushing you can have issues for some time. Eventually the chlorine will clean that up, but my rule is that if there are frequent events of the water being turned off then the tap water is not safe. That is true everywhere, but more true in places where you can see frequent leaks from water supply. Which is the case in Medellin, and certainly in San Jose Costa Rica.
And equating unsafe water with food and talking of them as being local bugs. That is not useful in my opinion. Eating local food will not help you with water contamination.
And equating unsafe water with food and talking of them as being local bugs. That is not useful in my opinion. Eating local food will not help you with water contamination.You misunderstand me. I am saying that if you are eating food, you will have the local bugs in your system whether you drink the water or not. I'm not saying that eating local food will "help" with water contamination. If people are worried about this (I live in MDE and SJO and drank the tap water from day one in both places), please use sustainable methods vs. Buying bottled water. Filtration, etc. You can buy water bottles with filters. I just get real tired of seeing plastic bottles everywhere.
Are you sure the clubs are open past 1 am, and if so, what time are they closing.According Colombian news they extending the closing time to 2 am.
This strikes me as a bit crazy and laughable at the same time. The Mayor issued the decrees under pressure from political opponents. It would have been very difficult politically to remain silent or take no action. Once he put the 6-month restrictions in place, merchants demonstrated about lost income. So now there is this compromise that basically makes the original decrees toothless. It's classic spineless politicking. He is doing whatever he feels he has to at any moment to quiet squeaky wheels. Handing out anti sex tourism pamphlets to unsuspecting tourists in front of cameras was clearly self serving. Daily reports of Colombian pedos continue to appear in the local media but there are no demonstrations or political speeches about them.
According Colombian news they extending the closing time to 2 am.
Yes, confirmation bias aside, the fact is Colombia is in a period of drought right now. It hasn't affected Medellin yet but the risk is there. It's so bad that Bogota is about to impose water rationing. Scheduled and unscheduled water outages are not unusual in Medellin. That's why most high rises have water tanks. It's not fair that only poor people in the barrios are affected by the water outages. You are probably not going to have a problem drinking the tap water. People here do it all their lives and gastritis is not the sort of problem it on the coast. I personally don't plan to cancel my Postobon deliveries any time soon. Three five gallon bottles cost about 44,000 pesos. It's not a big expense.
Tap water is probably safe until it isn't. Safe if there have been no "low pressure" events in the system. But as soon as the water pressure is off there can be infiltration and then without super chlorination and pipe flushing you can have issues for some time. Eventually the chlorine will clean that up, but my rule is that if there are frequent events of the water being turned off then the tap water is not safe. That is true everywhere, but more true in places where you can see frequent leaks from water supply. Which is the case in Medellin, and certainly in San Jose Costa Rica.
And equating unsafe water with food and talking of them as being local bugs. That is not useful in my opinion. Eating local food will not help you with water contamination.
I am looking for a Girl-Friendly Hotel or Airbnb. I am happy to pay the extra fees. I am looking for a hotel or Airbnb with security that will keep the girl's ID and only give it after making sure that I am not drugged. Thanks.
According Colombian news they extending the closing time to 2 am.Clubs start shutting down around 2:30, but I stil heard music blasting until 4 am. Don't know where it was coming from.
I'm staying at Lleras Green hotel, the hotel is ok. There wi-fi sucks.
They charge 100,000 person for guess. You first guess is free, you can bring the same guess as many times as you like. But if you bring in a different guess they will charge you. That sucks.
Nothing really to do in the Lleras parque area during the day. No girls walking around. Things pop off at night.
This might be the best post I ever read on any forum in 30+ years of mongering all over the world. It ought to be pinned to the top of this thread. Just about everything written could be applied to nearly every other country in SA, CA and Asia. I'm (very) HO. Thanks for a great read in a sea of blathering minutia!Cheers man, appreciate the kind words.
SlapShot10
04-13-24, 18:57
Daily reports of Colombian pedos continue to appear in the local media but there are no demonstrations or political speeches about them.Right? I haven't seen any signs telling the indigenous men to go back to their land, or saying grandpas aren't wanted here, or pamphlets being handed out to dance school owners telling them grooming is discouraged. There is a systemic problem in this country, along with many others, and a few dumb-F gringos are just a drop in the bucket. Keystone cops don't help, but if you ask me, a grandpa R-ing his granddaughter sends you to a real special place compared to some foreign slob being an idiot in what would certainly seem like an illegal agreement between parties type situation (based on the elevator video). Certain people will take to the streets for whatever the topic of the day is, but it boggles my mind on how locals can hear half a story from their neighbor's grandma's maid's friend on whatsapp, Day 1, and never think for a second there could be more to the story. Gentrification is my other hot button issue. Zimbabwe is at 130%, pretty sure there aren't many gringos buying apartments and bottles of alcohol there. Gas is up 50% in the US and I don't hear too many people blaming it on the Colombians in Miami or NYC. Ok, that's my rant for the day. All this greenery and peace at The Masters got me in the mood to pick a fight with my laptop LOL. In case anyone is worried, this has nothing to do with being sexually frustrated!
Enjoy the weekend. Cheers!
Nil Admirari
04-13-24, 19:24
Stop Replying to Long Posts! This is the fourth time the long post has been repeated.......Lets try a little harder not to reply to the long post. You can post a comment about it without replying to it.........
A strong Second the Motion to Moonshot encouraging Board Members, when responding to a post, to refrain from copying it in its entirety. But a correction with which he would probably (I hope) agree.
When doing so there is no reason not to start by hitting the "REPLY WITH QUOTE" option at the bottom of the prior post. But, unless the quoted post is a very short one, be sure to delete all of the text inside the QUOTE except a sentence or two. You can insert dots "...... ", as I have done, above, in the Quote from Moonshot's post, to indicate where you have deleted language. And be sure to retain the ISG QUOTE brackets, themselves, at the beginning and the end, or else the ISG system will abort your reply.
It's actually useful for other readers to have this link back to the prior post on which you are commenting in case they want to go back and check it out for themselves. This link is lost if (as Moonshot suggested) you just comment by drafting a new post (instead of hitting Reply to get started). Often Board Members are responding to a post a day or two after it's original appearance, so it may already be a page or two back on the thread.
A strong Second the Motion to Moonshot encouraging Board Members, when responding to a post, to refrain from copying it in its entirety. But a correction with which he would probably (I hope) agree. . . ..I did not know that technique. That is very good advice on how to reply to a long post without repeating the long post.
I am not in Medellin now so I can't comment on the current situation in Poblado with the mayor's new rule. But if you are seeing online girls that are over the legal age, you probably will not be affected in any manner.
I am looking for a Girl-Friendly Hotel or Airbnb. I am happy to pay the extra fees. I am looking for a hotel or Airbnb with security that will keep the girl's ID and only give it after making sure that I am not drugged. Thanks.Llares Green hotel just makes a copy of the girl ID. I'm at the Dix hotel now, I will see if they hold the girl ID until she comes back.
Yes, confirmation bias aside, the fact is Colombia is in a period of drought right now. It hasn't affected Medellin yet but the risk is there. It's so bad that Bogota is about to impose water rationing. Scheduled and unscheduled water outages are not unusual in Medellin. That's why most high rises have water tanks. It's not fair that only poor people in the barrios are affected by the water outages. You are probably not going to have a problem drinking the tap water. People here do it all their lives and gastritis is not the sort of problem it on the coast. I personally don't plan to cancel my Postobon deliveries any time soon. Three five gallon bottles cost about 44,000 pesos. It's not a big expense.Oh I have had a problem drinking the tap water in the past, in Medellin. Water outages will certainly result in contamination. And more so right now in San Jose where one part of the city had tens of thousands of people sick from bad water as they are shutting it off every day leading to all sorts of water born problems. Alajeulita and Hatillo, parts of Desamperados and into Escazu. With thousands of cases each day. They are advised to not drink the water but happens anyway.
You still the man. Check this out, standard practice is Colombian pedo suspects have their faces obscured and their names withheld when the cases are reported in the media. This includes the ones literally caught with their dicks in illegal (under 14 in Colombia) girls like the guy who picked up two in San Diego and took them to a motel La Estrella. I think everybody saw the passport of Livingston plastered all over the Internet after he was released because the girls wouldn't accuse him of anything and he wasn't caught in the act doing anything. His life is pretty much fucked at this point and it's his own fault but I don't get the kid glove treatment of the locals.
Right? I haven't seen any signs telling the indigenous men to go back to their land, or saying grandpas aren't wanted here, or pamphlets being handed out to dance school owners telling them grooming is discouraged. There is a systemic problem in this country, along with many others, and a few dumb-F gringos are just a drop in the bucket. Keystone cops don't help, but if you ask me, a grandpa R-ing his granddaughter sends you to a real special place compared to some foreign slob being an idiot in what would certainly seem like an illegal agreement between parties type situation (based on the elevator video). Certain people will take to the streets for whatever the topic of the day is, but it boggles my mind on how locals can hear half a story from their neighbor's grandma's maid's friend on whatsapp, Day 1, and never think for a second there could be more to the story. Gentrification is my other hot button issue. Zimbabwe is at 130%, pretty sure there aren't many gringos buying apartments and bottles of alcohol there. Gas is up 50% in the US and I don't hear too many people blaming it on the Colombians in Miami or NYC. Ok, that's my rant for the day. All this greenery and peace at The Masters got me in the mood to pick a fight with my laptop LOL. In case anyone is worried, this has nothing to do with being sexually frustrated!
Enjoy the weekend. Cheers!
I am anti plastic contamination. I use refillable 5 gallon jugs. I feel awful when I'm in Miami and see people buying pallets of small plastic water bottles for home use.
You misunderstand me. I am saying that if you are eating food, you will have the local bugs in your system whether you drink the water or not. I'm not saying that eating local food will "help" with water contamination. If people are worried about this (I live in MDE and SJO and drank the tap water from day one in both places), please use sustainable methods vs. Buying bottled water. Filtration, etc. You can buy water bottles with filters. I just get real tired of seeing plastic bottles everywhere.
I'm positive. Clubs are staying open past 1am. I'm here now.I have a friend who works at one of the clubs near Parque Lleras. She said the clubs now stay open until 3 am.
Exoticspirit
04-14-24, 00:08
Oh I have had a problem drinking the tap water in the past, in Medellin. Water outages will certainly result in contamination. The tolerance in tap water could be quite different between travellers and locals too. Just because locals could drink the tap water doesn't always mean that we could since the stomach flora inside could be quite different from living in different regions for most of our lives.
Get a proxy. Problem solved. I have been working "remote" in different countries for 10+ years and have a full paid proxy subscription so all my traffic (phone included) route back through the US.I get the proxy part for laptop but how do you route company phone? Do you turn of cellular network and just use phone via proxy VPN WiFi?
3 am? What time were they closing to begin with? It's a serious question, I've never been in the park later than 10 PM or so and then only years ago.
I have a friend who works at one of the clubs near Parque Lleras. She said the clubs now stay open until 3 am.
Elvis 2008
04-14-24, 03:43
I have been in the best parts, and I guarantee you the WORST parts of Colombia. I MARRIED into a VERY poor family and have seen true desperation and children going hungry. Even then they were some of the KINDEST people I have ever met. Don't be an asshole, be good to humans, and don't be an idiot and you should be ok.
I can't count the number of times I have fallen in love in Colombia. Like REAL romantic love. I MARRIED one girl (there are a lot of posts about her in this very forum including great nudes of her too)(I still fucked everything that moved), but I loved this girl with all my heart. I have 10+ girls who I love like little sisters (I still fuck them), but I help them with clothes for school, birthday gifts, have met their families, been to weddings, funerals, Christmas at their house and more. Colombians are some of the most passionate and warm people in the world (probably only 2nd to Brazil). If you are single, you are VERY likely to fall in love - if you do fall in love... please don't make the mistake I made (will continue to make). Just be honest, tell them you like fucking lots of women, and you will find a girl there who will let you fuck everyone and anyone and still love you (if you take care of her and. her family). Word of warning here: I have NEVER seen a hot Colombian woman over 45 years old. These girls AGE HARD. If you are going to get into a relationship, AIM YOUNG (18-23) and you will be dead before they get ugly.YYZ, I agree with practically everything you have written especially about how to treat the women. Then I come to this part and I am like are you out of your damned mind?
First off, I get what you are saying about the attraction. This impoverished girl that you married probably treated you like a king in the bedroom and was young and super hot. The ideal Colombian woman fucks the shit out of you, does your laundry, packs your bags, and will do literally anything you ask of them. That is a pipe dream in the USA.
But let's get real. Say you met the same 18 year old type not in Colombia but in West Virginia with an impoverished family. Do you think anyone would think such a marriage would work?
Yeah, I get it is man's innate desire to fuck as many women as possible, but before you get married, you better have found something in the woman you are considering marrying more valuable than that innate desire because that is what is going to keep you from straying. Eventually, you are going to get bored of the 18 year old girl and her family.
And getting from 18 to 23 before they get ugly? Well, yeah, if all you value is looks, then yeah, you should not get married. No matter how hot your woman is, one day you will see hotter.
The easy part is sweeping the women off their feet and having the women think you hung the moon. The hard part is your commitment to them. That means selling your woman to your friends, family, and coworkers. If she cannot make valuable connections with them, then your relationship is doomed. Was anyone in your personal circle hurt when things did not work out with you and your wife?
I am going to try not to brag about my woman, but if you were a friend of mine and flying into a city and needed anything, outside of paying, she would handle everything. And when she did, you would be telling me how lucky I am, and her friends are the same way. I would imagine you could do the same if someone visited you in your hometown.
One thing I cannot stand is government and divorce and all that bullshit about women getting half as if every woman is so valuable. When guys cheat, they usually do so because their wives are worthless, and they can. When I got divorced, nobody in my family missed my ex-wife or ever asked about how she is doing. There was no downside to cheating her on outside of the law so I did. If someone wanted to go out with her after my divorce, I would have said she is pretty and good in bed, but once you see the real her, you are going to want to run away. If she was so damned valuable, someone should have picked her up by now, and no one has.
If I broke up with my current gal, it would be devastating to her friends and family and to mine because there have been real bonds that have formed and knowing that prevents me from seeing other people. Also unlike my ex wife, there would be a line of guys out the door after her, and that would not be just based on looks but who she is. Hell, MY friends and family would be trying to fix her up if things did not work out.
The friends of my gal have all traveled and are college educated. Many have family in the USA and Europe, speak great English, and have foreign BFs and husbands. They are either professional or married to a person who is a professional. It was rare for me to have met anyone in Colombia who was not professional and could think long term. If you are a well to do American and want a Colombian woman, you have to marry someone from this class or it is not going to work. You have better odds of it working out with a USA hick from the sticks.
3 am? What time were they closing to begin with? It's a serious question, I've never been in the park later than 10 PM or so and then only years ago.They were closing at 4 am before the mayor changed it to 1 am. I only know when they used to close because my friend works until they close. I don't think I've ever been there past midnight.
Right? I haven't seen any signs telling the indigenous men to go back to their land, or saying grandpas aren't wanted here, or pamphlets being handed out to dance school owners telling them grooming is discouraged. There is a systemic problem in this country, along with many others, and a few dumb-F gringos are just a drop in the bucket. Keystone cops don't help, but if you ask me, a grandpa R-ing his granddaughter sends you to a real special place compared to some foreign slob being an idiot in what would certainly seem like an illegal agreement between parties type situation (based on the elevator video). Certain people will take to the streets for whatever the topic of the day is, but it boggles my mind on how locals can hear half a story from their neighbor's grandma's maid's friend on whatsapp, Day 1, and never think for a second there could be more to the story. Gentrification is my other hot button issue. Zimbabwe is at 130%, pretty sure there aren't many gringos buying apartments and bottles of alcohol there. Gas is up 50% in the US and I don't hear too many people blaming it on the Colombians in Miami or NYC. Ok, that's my rant for the day. All this greenery and peace at The Masters got me in the mood to pick a fight with my laptop LOL. In case anyone is worried, this has nothing to do with being sexually frustrated!
Enjoy the weekend. Cheers!Yes I agree the whole country is crooked from the police all the way to president. But here's the thing. This is not our country.
The stories of druggings and medellin basically being the new worlds brothel all backtracks back to the type of gringo tourists that they don't want in their country.
Every measure they are taking in Cartagena and Mde realistically is to get rid of the blatant sex tourists that publicize and embarrass their country. Ie Passport Bros and YouTubers.
Most of us go there to take their women and you expect Colombian men in general to be ok with that??
I get the proxy part for laptop but how do you route company phone? Do you turn of cellular network and just use phone via proxy VPN WiFi?If you have to have a phone number, You probably have to put it into airplane mode and use WiFi calling or use your own phone. The solution that works for some do not work for all. If your device has company management software on it, they practically control / own and see everything on your device. The best method is to put VPN on the router
If you are important enough to your direct manager, and is not afraid of losing your job. Try to tell the manager that and the manager might just let you do it or provide a compromise
Right? I haven't seen any signs telling the indigenous men to go back to their land, or saying grandpas aren't wanted here, or pamphlets being handed out to dance school owners telling them grooming is discouraged. There is a systemic problem in this country, along with many others, and a few dumb-F gringos are just a drop in the bucket. ..I know a girl that would hide in my bed to pretend that she was sleeping when she received call from certain people. The first time I saw that she hid in the bed to start a video call, then pulled her breast out so the caller on the other side could see. It didn't even seem sexual because it was natural, like drinking water but it was odd to me. I asked who was that. She said something like that was a man who was like her father.
I remember another senior poster wrote about gringos who lived in certain part of the country supported the whole family of the girl. I know one who has an old gringo boyfriend. She told me she could not leave her boyfriend because he supported her family including her grandmother. They hardly had sex but the gringo wanted a child after she turned 18. I met this gringo because he was obsessed with her and tracked her down to my apartment. He paid the expenses of the girl and her best friend to vacation somewhere because the best friend wanted to see something. He put them in a separate house or cabin in the same place. They only met for dinner. I can see the gringo is very wealthy by what he owns and what the girls got.
Anyway, I see a few girls from poor background have stories like these once I spent enough time with them.
DonCarlos1234
04-14-24, 10:09
No BS. He's a huge resource so pay attention! He is also semi young, wealthy, and good looking. (no I'm not gay).
No one here rates themselves like they rate the girls. So figuring out how they rate, catch, pay for or find these girls is hugely variable. If you are not an 8 you can't do what an ISG pro does. IMHO I believe you should consider your own resources, likes and planning before jumping down the rabbit hole (Medellin) Meet him if he's available! My other hero here (Elvis) is out of action and I had to go to Brazil all by myself! Portuguese is fascinating, so are the girls. Alas, No one offers a complete guide to Sao Paulo / Rio like this read by xyz.
I can vouch for one time I witnessed him do a 6 or was it 7? Girl rotation within a few hours. No wonder the hotel manager wanted him to slow down. LOL. I personally can't keep up with that.
Right now I feel blessed to have found a young sex crazed student in Bogota that I will bring to Medellin. I might have a few days to kill. Let you all know later. Thanks xyz. See you again one day.
Ok guys, it's been a LONG time since I have written a report, but I will do my best to outline this for everyone on what I think is useful I have learned in the past 5 or so years. Also, for haters or the "I don't believe you" crowd out there. Save it, I don't come to ISG often, I won't waste time with replying to nonsense. My next trip to MDE will be from 4/28 - 5/3. If you are not an FNG and have made contributions to this board, please reach out and I'm happy to buy you a beer or share a bottle with you one night at a club.
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The best advice I can give you, is go with someone who has gone before. Be open to seeing more than just the inside of a young girls panties, and you will have the time of your life. You will see kind people, beautiful women, amazing food, and best of all it will give you perspective into an amazing emerging culture in which you can be a part of. Cheers, and happy hunting!!
I have not reported in a while. I thought I would post a quick note from a veteran. I just completed a one week trip to Medellin. By far my best trip so far on three of four years. I don't do streets and stopped clubs a while ago. I do strict ID check and I don't do Airbnb and use hotels with good protocols. Keeping those factors in mind, I had a great time. Parque Lleras has cleaned up a lot but still ways to go in my opinion but is so much better now. You can actually walk the streets without bumping into a dozen, clearly underaged hookers. Provenza is nicer too. Hope it stays this way and continue to be cleaned up. Cheers.
BTW, clubs open till 2 am in Zona Rosa and outside the zone, till 4 am.
Exoticspirit
04-14-24, 16:01
Yes I agree the whole country is crooked from the police all the way to president. But here's the thing. This is not our country.
The stories of druggings and medellin basically being the new worlds brothel all backtracks back to the type of gringo tourists that they don't want in their country.
Every measure they are taking in Cartagena and Mde realistically is to get rid of the blatant sex tourists that publicize and embarrass their country. Ie Passport Bros and YouTubers.
Most of us go there to take their women and you expect Colombian men in general to be ok with that??This is a huge contrast to say Thailand where they WANT us there. Even the guys from the cab drivers to club staffers. Seems everyone there is on with the 'program' as they are all pushing girls on us and entire industry like Pattaya is built on mongering world. And yes there are many Youtubers there particularly ex pats with lots of girls willing to go on video to promote themselves and their bars. Something is obviously very different in Colombia which is preventing the same reception that we get in Thailand or even the Philippines.
Something is obviously very different in Colombia which is preventing the same reception that we get in Thailand or even the Philippines.Some of you forget that Colombia remains a conservative Catholic country which is the thing different from Thailand. Colombian politicians are in a catch 22 where on the hand they need tourists money but on the other hand their conservative base is outraged by the excess of careless foreigners.
All would be well if things happened discreetly but us Americans don't do discreet.
Elvis 2008
04-14-24, 17:18
No BS. He's a huge resource so pay attention! He is also semi young, wealthy, and good looking. (no I'm not gay).Yeah, there are things you can say that might not trigger things for people who do not know any better like being Ambassador level at Marriott. During the pandemic, I used the Marriott card exclusively and traveled to mostly Marriott hotels. A friend told me about the red carpet treatment of being Ambassador and I finally got to the point where I had 100+ nights in a year. I thought I had made Ambassador but just went from Titanium to Titanium elite and would have had to spend an additional $10,000 to reach Ambassador. Even being Titanium, the managers at the hotels would kiss my ass but Ambassador is a whole different thing. If you are an Ambassador level, the hotel is required to kick out another guest and put you up even if you do not have a reservation.
I can see why he is your hero. I can tell just from what he writes he is a huge player.
IMHO I believe you should consider your own resources, likes and planning before jumping down the rabbit hole (Medellin) Meet him if he's available! My other hero here (Elvis) is out of action and I had to go to Brazil all by myself! Portuguese is fascinating, so are the girls.
Alas, No one offers a complete guide to Sao Paulo / Rio like this read by xyz.And you have killed it taking the seeking model to whole new level. It worked out for me but I really admired your approach to the game.
There was a guy named Bwana Dik I think who did a great write up on Rio. For the most part, it is pretty accurate. I think Atlantic Avenue is safer now and HELP disco has shut down but I am not sure Rio has changed much outside of that so his guide probably would still be good. Sao Paulo has Scandallo but all the other clubs are much the same as twenty years ago from what I gather, but I have never seen a definitive SP guide. Maybe you should write one, Don. LOL.
Manizales911
04-14-24, 18:01
I have a friend who works at one of the clubs near Parque Lleras. She said the clubs now stay open until 3 am.I was there three days ago and all of the clubs in Parque Lleras promptly closed at 1:00 am.
Mr Enternational
04-14-24, 19:08
Most of us go there to take their women and you expect Colombian men in general to be ok with that??LOL. Take their women? You talk like you are going down and associating with the cream of the crop A1 female citizens. I am sure they do not give a damn about those hood ass hookers that foreigners are coming to pay.
Flawless Zeal
04-14-24, 20:13
I don't do Airbnb and use hotels with good protocols. Any recommendations on hotels with good protocols currently? Some of the information in this thread seems to be out of date.
LOL. Take their women? You talk like you are going down and associating with the cream of the crop A1 female citizens. I am sure they do not give a damn about those hood ass hookers that foreigners are coming to pay.Maybe that's your exclusive range of women you deal with.
I've met doctors lawyers art dealers business owners all of whom have funded their educations through discreet ways.
I have friends who have met many girls who live normal lives now with well paying jobs by Colombian standards.
Many of them are married and make a good living. But if we call them up for a good time most likely they won't be turning it down.
Theres also a list of A list Colombian women (newscasters, models, telenova actresses etc) that are available companions as well. They start at 2 k usd.
Maybe they don't give a rats ass about hood rats but they care that your main objective of being there is to bang their women.
I even know a female cop with a BF that use to be a fb girl. And I'm sure for the right price she'll come out. Lots of things you're not seeing and simply don't know. There's a much bigger side to it.
3 am? What time were they closing to begin with? It's a serious question, I've never been in the park later than 10 PM or so and then only years ago.This is not current information, because it's been ages since I was in Parque Lleras until the bars closed. On weekends, including Sunday if Monday was a holiday, they would stay open until 4 AM. Weeknights most would stay open until 1 AM.
Word of advice if you plan on staying until everything closes. Make certain you are within walking distance of your hotel or apartment. One night, at 4 AM I was unable to get a taxi, long lines down at Parque Poblado, swarms of people flagging down anything all around the park. I walked around trying to find 1. By the time I returned to Parque Poblado, all the taxis were gone and the streets were empty. Walked to La Frontera (the southern border between Poblado and Envigado) at 5 AM, a 40 minute walk at a fast, steady pace.
LOL. Take their women? You talk like you are going down and associating with the cream of the crop A1 female citizens. I am sure they do not give a damn about those hood ass hookers that foreigners are coming to pay.Most of the girls have boyfriends and they enjoy the money that the girl is earning from you. They are not jealous or angry at you. They screw the girls for free and they know that the girls love them. They know that you have to pay a week's wages to have sex with their girls, and the girls don't really like you. So there is nothing to get jealous or angry about. If anything, they probably see you as pathetic because you pay so much for what they get for free.
LoveItHere
04-14-24, 21:43
LOL. Take their women? You talk like you are going down and associating with the cream of the crop A1 female citizens. I am sure they do not give a damn about those hood ass hookers that foreigners are coming to pay.How odd. Many foreigners from many countries travel at sometimes great expense to be with these "hood ass hookers" and use up their entire vacation time to be with them. Seems like you said before that nearly half the Colombian women are prostitutes. So nobody cares about half the women in Colombia? Just because they sell themselves does not mean they are bad people. One man's ugly duckling is another man's swan. So yes many guys local and foreign care about these women. I am one of them. They must mean something to you too since you have nearly 16,000 posts on this site dedicated to hookers which requires a large commitment of your time. Putting down hookers hardly makes you any kind of man. Please stop your alpha dog BS.
I have not reported in a while. I thought I would post a quick note from a veteran. I just completed a one week trip to Medellin. By far my best trip so far on three of four years. I don't do streets and stopped clubs a while ago. I do strict ID check and I don't do Airbnb and use hotels with good protocols. Keeping those factors in mind, I had a great time. Parque Lleras has cleaned up a lot but still ways to go in my opinion but is so much better now. You can actually walk the streets without bumping into a dozen, clearly underaged hookers. Provenza is nicer too. Hope it stays this way and continue to be cleaned up. Cheers.
BTW, clubs open till 2 am in Zona Rosa and outside the zone, till 4 am.What do you do during the day (12 pm to 8 pm)? I'm bored as hell during those hours.
Nothing to do.
I have a friend who works at one of the clubs near Parque Lleras. She said the clubs now stay open until 3 am.I'm here now. Gates are close by 2:45 am.
Casas, mileroticos apartments, or museums and shopping malls.
What do you do during the day (12 pm to 8 pm)? I'm bored as hell during those hours.
Nothing to do.
Mr Enternational
04-14-24, 23:07
How odd. Many foreigners from many countries travel at sometimes great expense to be with these "hood ass hookers" and use up their entire vacation time to be with them. Seems like you said before that nearly half the Colombian women are prostitutes. Putting down hookers hardly makes you any kind of man. Please stop your alpha dog BS.I never said half of Colombian women are prostitutes. That is not my rationale at all. That seems to be from guys that only deal with hookers, therefore they assume most women are hookers. I mostly deal with women that are not hookers so I do not see the country that way.
I also never said hookers are bad people. Are you saying that you give a rat's ass about people paying to fuck the hookers where you are from? This is just another one of those old gringo tales they use to make themselves feel superior to the locals. I think you misunderstood my post. My post was actually putting down the foreign mongers that think the local people are jealous of them. Does them doing that make them any kind of a man? Do you think they should stop the alpha foreign monger superior to the locals BS? Or maybe you feel you are better than the locals and they are jealous of you as well.
It looks like I could lead a happy life as a Centro rat in New York. Jackson Heights, Queens is Little Venezuela now that more have arrived and more Colombians moved out to northern New Jersey. This street scene likes quite a bit like Parque Berrio https://nypost.com/2024/04/14/us-news/nyc-block-turned-into-illicit-open-air-market-for-migrant-crooks-sources/.
Elvis 2008
04-15-24, 01:13
How odd. Many foreigners from many countries travel at sometimes great expense to be with these "hood ass hookers" and use up their entire vacation time to be with them. Seems like you said before that nearly half the Colombian women are prostitutes. So nobody cares about half the women in Colombia? Just because they sell themselves does not mean they are bad people. One man's ugly duckling is another man's swan. So yes many guys local and foreign care about these women. I am one of them.Yeah, it is pretty scary when you see these girls before they turn into adults. I met an engineer making $900 a month, and if my gal's daughter became an engineer and learned that other women were making 2 or 3 X what she was on her back, I would be afraid she might get discouraged and / or quit her studies. It is hard to stay motivated when they payoff is years down the line.
And one of her friends is an amazing dancer. She has the spinner build that you do not see much in the Latin world and would be in huge demand in the monger world if she kept her figure for a few years, but she has very big plans in the dancing world. It would be tragic if she did not pursue her dream and for whatever reason had to turn to the monger world to make ends meet.
And I saw a customs lady in Medellin show me a really nasty attitude. We got into Medellin early in the morning from Mexico. I was in the front of the plane and the only line open was for Colombians. My gal and her daughter were behind me and were going to use the bio mig line so I went ahead. Well, the customs agent looked with absolute disgust at all the Colombia stamps on my passport, and she was about to send me to the foreigner line which had just opened and would have been a long wait. Anyway, my gal and her daughter passed by my line just then and smiled and the customs woman asked who is that, and I said my GF and she saw that I was there so often to be with them and not a bunch of hookers, and she stamped the passport, smiled, and let me through. I wish you could have seen the disgust in this woman's face versus the smile she gave me. It was unreal how quickly her emotions changed.
So for all this talk of simps and guys "ruining the market" by overpaying, it is actually those very guys, the cheap charlies, hanging in places like Centro and Parque Lleras that the Colombian government is after.
I don't know what percentage of attractive 18 to 30 girls are hookers but I'm sure it's high. The temptation to monetize your beauty on SA or tinder is high, especially if you can pick the guys you want to be with vs working at a casa where you don't have that option.
I would love to know which hotel you stayed at. I am not into clubs or streets. I am in Medellin in a few weeks, thinking of just sticking to calling girls from lacelestina.
I have not reported in a while. I thought I would post a quick note from a veteran. I just completed a one week trip to Medellin. By far my best trip so far on three of four years. I don't do streets and stopped clubs a while ago. I do strict ID check and I don't do Airbnb and use hotels with good protocols. Keeping those factors in mind, I had a great time. Parque Lleras has cleaned up a lot but still ways to go in my opinion but is so much better now. You can actually walk the streets without bumping into a dozen, clearly underaged hookers. Provenza is nicer too. Hope it stays this way and continue to be cleaned up. Cheers.
BTW, clubs open till 2 am in Zona Rosa and outside the zone, till 4 am.
Has anyone used a personal all-day tour guide from sites like www.showaround.com ?
I am not trying to sleep with them; I just need a girl to hang out with and enjoy the nightlife and do the touristy thing while knowing I will not be drugged and robbed.
Bonus points if she can be my wingwomen.
And I saw a customs lady in Medellin show me a really nasty attitude. We got into Medellin early in the morning from Mexico. I was in the front of the plane and the only line open was for Colombians. My gal and her daughter were behind me and were going to use the bio mig line so I went ahead. Well, the customs agent looked with absolute disgust at all the Colombia stamps on my passport, and she was about to send me to the foreigner line which had just opened and would have been a long wait. Anyway, my gal and her daughter passed by my line just then and smiled and the customs woman asked who is that, and I said my GF and she saw that I was there so often to be with them and not a bunch of hookers, and she stamped the passport, smiled, and let me through. I wish you could have seen the disgust in this woman's face versus the smile she gave me. It was unreal how quickly her emotions changed.
So for all this talk of simps and guys "ruining the market" by overpaying, it is actually those very guys, the cheap charlies, hanging in places like Centro and Parque Lleras that the Colombian government is after.She was pissed because you were in the wrong line, trying to bypass the foreigner's line.
She softened up when she saw the family.
I have many Colombian entry stamps in my PP and the officials are always friendly towards me when I greet them with a courteous buenas tardes, etc.
Never a look of disgust.
The Colombian government is not after Cheap Charlies, but pedis, regardless of price.
Get over yourself. 🤪
Elvis 2008
04-15-24, 07:40
She was pissed because you were in the wrong line, trying to bypass the foreigner's line.
She softened up when she saw the family.Uh, there was no agent in the foreigner's line, and she knew it. If it was a question of being in the wrong line, she would have said that up front. It was leafing through the passport and seeing how many Colombia stamps I had that pissed her off. I was there. You were not. You are making shit up to make yourself feel better.
I have many Colombian entry stamps in my PP and the officials are always friendly towards me when I greet them with a courteous buenas tardes, etc.
Never a look of disgust.That is great. It reminds me of when in the USA the police left guys seeing hookers alone until they did not. Everyone was convinced that the cops were going after people seeing trafficked women The police said otherwise and said that if you were seeing pros, you were supporting trafficking and few believed the police were serious. Then they did stings arresting thousands including billionaire Robert Kraft. That was a huge reason I gave up the hobby in the USA.
And guys were in denial until they were not. They had no issues with LE until they did.
The Colombian government is not after Cheap Charlies, but pedis, regardless of price. Get over yourself. https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-04-02/medellin-declares-war-on-sex-tourism-after-us-citizen-found-with-two-little-girls-at-a-hotel.html
The first repercussions of the discovery of a USA Citizen with two girls, aged 12 and 13 respectively, in a luxury hotel in Medelland's El Poblado neighborhood were announced on Monday. At a press conference, Mayor Federico Gutirrez said that he would be signing two decrees: one, prohibiting sex work in the area of Medelland for six months, and another the enforcement of a 1 am Closing time for bars in the area for a month.
https://www.financecolombia.com/us-government-pledges-medellin-mayor-federico-gutierrez-full-support-against-sexual-predators-human-trafficking/
Medelland's Mayor Federico "Fico" Gutierrez met this week with US Ambassador to Colombia Francisco Palmieri in Bogot to discuss joint efforts against sexual predators and human trafficking. Ambassador Palmieri pledged the total cooperation of the US government and its resources to support Colombian law enforcement, and to bring any American perpetrators to justice, including extradition of American citizens to Colombia.
Does that say that if the mayor says you are fucking women 18 and over you are fine? Hell no. Is the USA government going to support you if you are in trouble? Hell no. The USA ambassador has said he is coming after you if you get in trouble.
You are seeing what you want not what is being said and written and attacking anyone who does not cow tow to your POV. You need to get over yourself. So now besides the druggings and the theft and the killings, you have two governments condemning what you are doing, but that is okay. Everyone should listen to you because you have it all figured out.
The tolerance in tap water could be quite different between travellers and locals too. Just because locals could drink the tap water doesn't always mean that we could since the stomach flora inside could be quite different from living in different regions for most of our lives.You just need to get one of these water filters. I've had this one since Feb 2023 and it works great. You just fill it up with tap water and it filters out all the bacteria.
There's different shops that sell them or on Facebook marketplace you can find them cheap I think I got this one for 60 mil.
Also when the water goes out you still have drinking water.
DiscoverFL
04-15-24, 14:00
I get the proxy part for laptop but how do you route company phone? Do you turn of cellular network and just use phone via proxy VPN WiFi?I could write a long post about this, but to keep it simple. I use a portable mini-router that is VPN connected to a reliable VPN provider (exiting in the US). It allows no traffic if VPN is down. I connect that mini-router to the place I am staying local wifi. Then my work laptop is connected to it. My work phone (I keep that separate from a personal one) has GPS / location and cellular turned off BEFORE I leave the US. I connect it to the router too, wifi calls allowed. This would not work with highly secure equipment (which can have additional GPS capabilities inside phone or laptop), but for 90% of all corporate setups this works perfect. This gets you to appear as if still in the US. I also use the same VPN at home, so corporate security sees my traffic ALWAYS originating from the same place when I am home or not. There are other methods to increase stealth level (wireguard to a home network, etc.) - but this general setup works great for my corporate setup.
I could write a long post about this, but to keep it simple. I use a portable mini-router that is VPN connected to a reliable VPN provider (exiting in the US). It allows no traffic if VPN is down. I connect that mini-router to the place I am staying local wifi. Then my work laptop is connected to it. My work phone (I keep that separate from a personal one) has GPS / location and cellular turned off BEFORE I leave the US. I connect it to the router too, wifi calls allowed. This would not work with highly secure equipment (which can have additional GPS capabilities inside phone or laptop), but for 90% of all corporate setups this works perfect. This gets you to appear as if still in the US. I also use the same VPN at home, so corporate security sees my traffic ALWAYS originating from the same place when I am home or not. There are other methods to increase stealth level (wireguard to a home network, etc.) - but this general setup works great for my corporate setup.I get this part and I currently use gli router with vpn. But challenge with phone is you can't carry it outside room (if you want to bang in lunch break) and to check email or attend teams. Looking for solution to it.
......And I saw a customs lady in Medellin show me a really nasty attitude...... the customs agent looked with absolute disgust at all the Colombia stamps on my passport.......Reminds me of the immigration officer at Bangkok international airport many years ago in the days when I used to visit Thailand frequently. He looked at my passport and said to me "You like Thailand girls, eh" with a big smile on his face. He further said "Thailand girls very beautiful, eh".
Exoticspirit
04-15-24, 16:07
What do you do during the day (12 pm to 8 pm)? I'm bored as hell during those hours.
Nothing to do.I'm spending only three nights in Medellin for my first trip since I'm also enroute to Peru and Panama as well. That's really only two full days in town which I intend to spend in addition to a casa visit each day, a visit to Comuna 13 and take the cable car up to Parque Arvi. I also like to sample local food so will be spending time at local restos too. If I had more time, I would take day trips out of town too. I think there seems to be quite a lot to do during the daytime there, not just mongering.
I appreciate that you shared this information in a responsible way. Too often I see people on expat social media describing what works for them as "this is the way to do it." You added the very important caveat that there are organizations that don't allow even your expert configuration. Usually it's payroll tax concerns that cause companies to ban off shore work; other companies don't have multinational operations, and still others have defense or other government contracts that prohibit offshore access by employees. When I doubt I usually recommend getting permission to work "remotely from time to time" to prevent summary dismissal if you are discovered. With that in hand, you can finesse extended time away. I agree with you that your setup is going to get it done in all but extreme situations.
I could write a long post about this, but to keep it simple. I use a portable mini-router that is VPN connected to a reliable VPN provider (exiting in the US). It allows no traffic if VPN is down. I connect that mini-router to the place I am staying local wifi. Then my work laptop is connected to it. My work phone (I keep that separate from a personal one) has GPS / location and cellular turned off BEFORE I leave the US. I connect it to the router too, wifi calls allowed. This would not work with highly secure equipment (which can have additional GPS capabilities inside phone or laptop), but for 90% of all corporate setups this works perfect. This gets you to appear as if still in the US. I also use the same VPN at home, so corporate security sees my traffic ALWAYS originating from the same place when I am home or not. There are other methods to increase stealth level (wireguard to a home network, etc.) - but this general setup works great for my corporate setup.
Uh, there was no agent in the foreigner's line, and she knew it. If it was a question of being in the wrong line, she would have said that up front. It was leafing through the passport and seeing how many Colombia stamps I had that pissed her off. I was there. You were not. You are making shit up to make yourself feel better.
That is great. It reminds me of when in the USA the police left guys seeing hookers alone until they did not. Everyone was convinced that the cops were going after people seeing trafficked women The police said otherwise and said that if you were seeing pros, you were supporting trafficking and few believed the police were serious. Then they did stings arresting thousands including billionaire Robert Kraft. That was a huge reason I gave up the hobby in the USA.
And guys were in denial until they were not. They had no issues with LE until they did.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-04-02/medellin-declares-war-on-sex-tourism-after-us-citizen-found-with-two-little-girls-at-a-hotel.html
The first repercussions of the discovery of a USA Citizen with two girls, aged 12 and 13 respectively, in a luxury hotel in Medelland's El Poblado neighborhood were announced on Monday. At a press conference, Mayor Federico Gutirrez said that he would be signing two decrees: one, prohibiting sex work in the area of Medelland for six months, and another the enforcement of a 1 am Closing time for bars in the area for a month.
https://www.financecolombia.com/us-government-pledges-medellin-mayor-federico-gutierrez-full-support-against-sexual-predators-human-trafficking/
Medelland's Mayor Federico "Fico" Gutierrez met this week with US Ambassador to Colombia Francisco Palmieri in Bogot to discuss joint efforts against sexual predators and human trafficking. Ambassador Palmieri pledged the total cooperation of the US government and its resources to support Colombian law enforcement, and to bring any American perpetrators to justice, including extradition of American citizens to Colombia.
Does that say that if the mayor says you are fucking women 18 and over you are fine? Hell no. Is the USA government going to support you if you are in trouble? Hell no. The USA ambassador has said he is coming after you if you get in trouble.
You are seeing what you want not what is being said and written and attacking anyone who does not cow tow to your POV. You need to get over yourself. So now besides the druggings and the theft and the killings, you have two governments condemning what you are doing, but that is okay. Everyone should listen to you because you have it all figured out.Hmmm thanks for the rant, Lol.
Have they made prostitution, in general, illegal in Colombia?
Or illegal only for foreigners?
Cheap Charlie's?
I can understand the stand against predators (pedis). That has always been illegal, but now being enforced more strongly, which I support.
According to you, they (the government, US and Colombia) are after you if you engage in any type of prostitution.
Which is legal in Colombia, with adults.
Have there been mass arrests of guys engaging in LEGAL prostitution?
No.
No need to blow a gasket and demean people because they don't fully agree with your point of view on something.
Youre an alarmist, which is Ok if thats what you want.
Im a realist. Not everyone is out to get me if Im not breaking any laws.
I am kind and respectful to the people of Colombia, and they are towards me as well.
I speak their language fluently.
Ive being going there for about 25 years now.
Not one look of digust towards me.
DiscoverFL
04-15-24, 17:32
I get this part and I currently use gli router with vpn. But challenge with phone is you can't carry it outside room (if you want to bang in lunch break) and to check email or attend teams. Looking for solution to it.Setup your personal phone to VPN to US then set it up to be a WIFI hot spot. Connect work phone (with cellular and GPS turned off) via WIFI to personal phone.
DiscoverFL
04-15-24, 17:41
What do you do during the day (12 pm to 8 pm)? I'm bored as hell during those hours.
Nothing to do.What do you do at home 12-8 when not working? There are amazing lunch places to visit, breweries, a number of rather impressive malls for shopping, movie theaters, bicycle rentals / tours, gyms, moto rentals, a dozen tourist sites to check out, or go get a super inexpensive teeth whitening / cleaning and explore other possible medical options, etc. Same or more options as any big city in the USA. Plus many of those same ladies you've been frequenting at night would gladly be a tour guide / company for exploring the city. I've never been bored there.
What do you do at home 12-8 when not working? There are amazing lunch places to visit, breweries, a number of rather impressive malls for shopping, movie theaters, bicycle rentals / tours, gyms, moto rentals, a dozen tourist sites to check out, or go get a super inexpensive teeth whitening / cleaning and explore other possible medical options, etc. Same or more options as any big city in the USA. Plus many of those same ladies you've been frequenting at night would gladly be a tour guide / company for exploring the city. I've never been bored there.That is what I was going to say. If you are bored and say there is nothing to do, what do you do when you're not working? Just do what you would normally do. If you're surfing the Internet, surf the Internet. If you just watch all day watching porn, just watch porn. If you drink all day, go to a bar and drink. If you watch sports on tv, just watch sports on tv. Pretty much everything that you would do in your home country when you're not working, you can do in Medellin.
Generally guys who are bored in Medellin are also bored in their home countries.
Now, for some guys, nothing to do means they want to have sex in the daytime along with sex at night. And if that is what you want, plenty of options there. Casas, streetwalkers in El Centro and online girls.
What do you do during the day (12 pm to 8 pm)? I'm bored as hell during those hours.
Nothing to do.I also find MDE quite boring by large city standards. But afternoon and early evening is my PEAK time period. I either go casa, Centro streets, message a regular, or go early evening to a street club. Usually home and bored by 8 or 9 pm.
I saw this sign in one of the public transportation buses in Medellin today. It basically says that it's not acceptable to be ogling the ladies. It doesn't say ladies, but I think that is implied. It doesn't say anything about minors or foreigners, and there aren't a lot of foreigners riding the buses. I don't think the authorities are only picking on foreigners.
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I've met doctors lawyers art dealers business owners all of whom have funded their educations through discreet ways.
I have friends who have met many girls who live normal lives now with well paying jobs by Colombian standards.
Many of them are married and make a good living. But if we call them up for a good time most likely they won't be turning it down.
So you just reinforce what I have observed in Medellin. I assume you are talking about sex for money. There are things that I just don't want to know from people I know, especially that they have been selling sex. It's not my business, telling me does nothing.
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Theres also a list of A list Colombian women (newscasters, models, telenova actresses etc) that are available companions as well. They start at 2 k usd.
Maybe they don't give a rats ass about hood rats but they care that your main objective of being there is to bang their women.
I even know a female cop with a BF that use to be a fb girl. And I'm sure for the right price she'll come out. Lots of things you're not seeing and simply don't know. There's a much bigger side to it.These are very discrete. I doubt regular citizens would know. I don't think it is the problem. I think the problem is what Lleras has become if you compare it to before pandemic. Also so many foreigners concentrate in one area created a non level playing field.
You will see the same messaging in every metro and tranvia car as well as on the public address monitors and audio announcements. I think you are projecting a bit.
I saw this sign in one of the public transportation buses in Medellin today. It basically says that it's not acceptable to be ogling the ladies. It doesn't say ladies, but I think that is implied. It doesn't say anything about minors or foreigners, and there aren't a lot of foreigners riding the buses. I don't think the authorities are only picking on foreigners.
I'm spending only three nights in Medellin for my first trip since I'm also enroute to Peru and Panama as well. That's really only two full days in town which I intend to spend in addition to a casa visit each day, a visit to Comuna 13 and take the cable car up to Parque Arvi. I also like to sample local food so will be spending time at local restos too. If I had more time, I would take day trips out of town too. I think there seems to be quite a lot to do during the daytime there, not just mongering.Yes, I went to Comuna 13. It was very good. Some very nice views. There really isn't much to in terms of mongering during the day. From 12 to 9 pm I was bored as hell.
And the constant harassment for money, to buy things and to patronize a busines is too much for me. My ftiend and i was walking toward parque llares and a girl and i guess her bother harassed us for a block. They try to push us to stop and pretty much demanded money. Mind you they where with there mother or other relatives. The kids were native indians and about 7 and8. I looked at my homeboy saying to him do you see this. It was crazy. He said it worst in Cartagena.
Exoticspirit
04-16-24, 02:28
Yes, I went to Comuna 13. It was very good. Some very nice views. There really isn't much to in terms of mongering during the day. From 12 to 9 pm I was bored as hell..Energy Spa is only about one Metro stop away from the one you get off for Comuna 13. I would combine these for a single trip. Going to do the same thing with New Life spa and back on the Metro to do the cable cars up to Parqe Arvi. Add on stops to eat, why wouldn't that help fill a day? Back to hotel by mid to late afternoon for a nap before dinner time. Just have to plan things out in order not to get bored, that's all.
Energy Spa is only about one Metro stop away from the one you get off for Comuna 13. I would combine these for a single trip. Going to do the same thing with New Life spa and back on the Metro to do the cable cars up to Parqe Arvi. Add on stops to eat, why wouldn't that help fill a day? Back to hotel by mid to late afternoon for a nap before dinner time. Just have to plan things out in order not to get bored, that's all.Just a heads up bro the Linea L of the metro cable (the one that goes from Santo Domingo to Parque Arvi) doesn't run on Mondays. Also early in the morning and late in the afternoon and early evenings the metro is extremely packed with alot of people. Also when you get off at Acevedo to get on the metro cable do NOT try to get on linea K between 5 pm - 8 pm as there will be a huge line all the way down the stairs.
You will have to buy a seeívica card for 10 mil pesos to use the metro or you can go to the servicio al cliente centers at san Antonio station or Acevedo station and use your passport to get a personalized seeívica card for free and you will also get better prices on using the metro and on línea L as well because I think with the tarjeta eventual they charge more. With the personalized card you can also run it negative up to cost of one viaje.
So you just reinforce what I have observed in Medellin. I assume you are talking about sex for money. There are things that I just don't want to know from people I know, especially that they have been selling sex. It's not my business, telling me does nothing.
These are very discrete. I doubt regular citizens would know. I don't think it is the problem. I think the problem is what Lleras has become if you compare it to before pandemic. Also so many foreigners concentrate in one area created a non level playing field.My point was to rebut what Mr E. Said that Colombia doesn't care about hoodrats as if they're the only hookers around.
Where the regular citizen gets effected is when their wife or GF gets caught and it causes problems. It's all a trickle down effect. The locals are getting effected the most not just in poblado now but envigado and laureles as well.
There really isn't much to in terms of mongering during the day. From 12 to 9 pm I was bored as hell.Did you end up going to the 5 dollars place by Pelourinho? You can go to El Centro to do the same during daytime. The quantity and quality are better with much smaller ass. Then you can go to the Centro strip clubs in the evening. That should occupy some of your time. It can be boring if you are just here on vacation. Have you tried asking the girl you met at night to come during daytime?
ElSexoChino7
04-16-24, 05:48
Do the touristy stuffs first, Go to gym, chill in the park, take a chica out to the mall, try different restaurants, try coffee shops, ride the cable car, take a day trip with a chica to outside towns of Medelln, walk around in El Centro, try the Casas, get a legit massage from spas, invite your favorite chica to hangout at your place during the day.
And the list goes on just have to plan better.
Great write up, need more like this. Great update. It will be my 4th time in Medellin in 2 years. Keeping current on the info is always helpful. Too bad as I will be gone by the 21 to Panama for a few days or I would have bought you a drink!
Ok guys, it's been a LONG time since I have written a report, but I will do my best to outline this for everyone on what I think is useful I have learned in the past 5 or so years. Also, for haters or the "I don't believe you" crowd out there. Save it, I don't come to ISG often, I won't waste time with replying to nonsense. My next trip to MDE will be from 4/28 - 5/3. If you are not an FNG and have made contributions to this board, please reach out and I'm happy to buy you a beer or share a bottle with you one night at a club.
Do the touristy stuffs first, Go to gym, chill in the park, take a chica out to the mall, try different restaurants, try coffee shops, ride the cable car, take a day trip with a chica to outside towns of Medelln, walk around in El Centro, try the Casas, get a legit massage from spas, invite your favorite chica to hangout at your place during the day.
And the list goes on just have to plan better.Daytime Activities:
I recommend Comuna 13, Parque Arvi, Guatape (bus from terminal del norte), The town of Caldas (ride metro to La Estrella, take bus that days "metro caldas" Parque Explora aquarium and planetarium, Aero parque Juan Pablo (watersides and swimming pools, I've gone 3 times with 3 different chicas), Various museums (there are 2 in the Botero Plaza area), California Buffet (ayura metro station), check out Itagui and Envigado in the south and Bello (yes I said Bello) in the north.
Medellin why sus alrededores have much to offer, if you're bored here it's due to your own lack interest.
-Gabacho.
... Then you can go to the Centro strip clubs in the evening.Please do elaborate. Strip clubs in El Centro?
Daytime Activities:
I recommend Comuna 13, Parque Arvi, Guatape (bus from terminal del norte), The town of Caldas (ride metro to La Estrella, take bus that days "metro caldas" Parque Explora aquarium and planetarium, Aero parque Juan Pablo (watersides and swimming pools, I've gone 3 times with 3 different chicas), Various museums (there are 2 in the Botero Plaza area), California Buffet (ayura metro station), check out Itagui and Envigado in the south and Bello (yes I said Bello) in the north.
Medellin why sus alrededores have much to offer, if you're bored here it's due to your own lack interest..All good options. Boredom is a choice, not the fault of any place. I'll add some more.
Go to the castle museum in Poblado. Completely explore the metro system. Go to the bottom level of the Cenro Comercial Santa Fe Mall and race the carts. Have lunch at Classic Diner in Envigado for the Colombian version of a US 1950's Diner. Besides Caldas, there's Santa Fe de Antioquia and other small towns to visit, or Go to Pueblito Paisa in Medellin. Go to the stadium, El Estadio in Laureles. You can watch all types of sports for free, from cheerleading to basketball to martial arts to skateboarding, diving, basketball, volleyball and soccer (futbol). There's a smaller stadium where you can watch matches for free.
Go to the sports park in Envigado and learn to play Tejo, the Colombian national sport. Do the Hare Krishnas still do their thing in El Centro by Iglesia Veracruz? There's usually a few musicians busking by the Poblado Metro station. Also you'll often find various types of street performers at the busy intersections, jugglers, dancers, singers. There used to be some in Laureles with a slack rope setup (look up the Madonna Super Bowl halftime show for an example).
On Sundays and Holiday Mondays there's Ciclovia. In Poblado, 1 side of Avenida Poblao is shut down for pedestrians, joggers, bicyclists, skateboarders, roller bladers and a lot of young women in spandex. It's a good chance to get some exercise, drink fresh juices, eat fresh fruit and admire all the hot women. I usually refer to it as the camel toe parade.
I wasn't terribly impressed with California Buffet, but maybe I went at a bad time. However, just down the street is Los Contenadores, a collection of restaurants built out of shipping containers. There's also Mercado de Rio, Mercado de Tranvia and Mercado De La Playa, nice collections of restaurants. Look up La Mayoria, a restaurant overlooking Envigado, where they have horse shows throughout the weekend. Excellent food and views.
Finding something to alleviate boredom in Medellin is easy, but you do have to take the time to search things out.
ElSexoChino7
04-16-24, 17:33
Then you can go to the Centro strip clubs in the evening.Can you give me a list of a good Centro strip clubs? As I have only been to La isla and Fase dos. What's the price of girls there? Safety at night in Centro is the reason why I've never bother to go there at dark.
ElSexoChino7
04-16-24, 17:39
Daytime Activities:
I recommend Comuna 13, Parque Arvi, Guatape (bus from terminal del norte), The town of Caldas (ride metro to La Estrella, take bus that days "metro caldas" Parque Explora aquarium and planetarium, Aero parque Juan Pablo (watersides and swimming pools, I've gone 3 times with 3 different chicas), Various museums (there are 2 in the Botero Plaza area), California Buffet (ayura metro station), check out Itagui and Envigado in the south and Bello (yes I said Bello) in the north.
Medellin why sus alrededores have much to offer, if you're bored here it's due to your own lack interest.
-Gabacho.I never knew Medellin has waterpark LOL. I would definitely check that out with a chica.
What's anything to see and visit in Bello? I heard a lot of people talked about that place all the time but also one place that I have never visited.
Energy Spa is only about one Metro stop away from the one you get off for Comuna 13. I would combine these for a single trip. Going to do the same thing with New Life spa and back on the Metro to do the cable cars up to Parqe Arvi. Add on stops to eat, why wouldn't that help fill a day? Back to hotel by mid to late afternoon for a nap before dinner time. Just have to plan things out in order not to get bored, that's all.My wingman who has been to Medellin a few times didn't want to goto centro without a guide, he says its too dangerous to walk around as a foreigner. I wanted to go during the day, but we didn't know exactly where all the casa are.
Did you end up going to the 5 dollars place by Pelourinho? You can go to El Centro to do the same during daytime. The quantity and quality are better with much smaller ass. Then you can go to the Centro strip clubs in the evening. That should occupy some of your time. It can be boring if you are just here on vacation. Have you tried asking the girl you met at night to come during daytime?I did not know about the $5 spot in Pelourinho. What is it? I wanted to goto El Centro during the days, but we didn't know exactly the area where all the casas are. We did goto centro. We went to the park with the fat lady statues and took a few pics. We walked around and brought some souvenirs. I like females fat assess. I ask four different girls that I meet in parque lleras to come by during the day. Only one showed up. The other 3 never came, they all had different excuses, but they all hit me up hours after the time they where suppose to show up asking do I want to still see them. These girls are unreliably.
Do the touristy stuffs first, Go to gym, chill in the park, take a chica out to the mall, try different restaurants, try coffee shops, ride the cable car, take a day trip with a chica to outside towns of Medelln, walk around in El Centro, try the Casas, get a legit massage from spas, invite your favorite chica to hangout at your place during the day.
And the list goes on just have to plan better.I went to Medellin to hook up with the ladies. None really to be found during the day in parque lleras. I wen to the mall, I ate at different resaurants, I don't drink coffee, I didn't do the cable car, I don't know any chica that well to go outside towns of Medelin (my first time in Colombia), I did walk around centro and I didn't get a massage.
I went to Medellin to mess around with some chicas, but from 12 pm tp 8 pm its no chicas around. I try calling some over during the day. But only 1 out of 4 showed up.
I never knew Medellin has waterpark LOL. I would definitely check that out with a chica.
What's anything to see and visit in Bello? I heard a lot of people talked about that place all the time but also one place that I have never visited.Yes they have several water parks, aeroparque Juan Pablo is the closest and easiest to get to. Another one called parque de las aguas is about 40 minute drive to the north near Barbosa or Girardota, I've been to that one once.
There is a lot in Bello. I personally like riding the metro to the end at niquia and going to the mall there called Centro Comercial Puerta del Norte. It has a movie theater inside and a lot of good places to eat including a mcdonald's and a KFC as well as some more upscale more expensive restaurants. And popsy ice-cream too which I highly recommend. I actually spent some time in Bello recently. I was going to post a report about it when I went there one night and met up with the friend of this chica yoxemily that I fucked there in 2023. And I spent several hours there in Bello walking thru their parks and their cathedral and went to a 3 hour hotel with the Chica and had a great session. I ended up not posting the report tho because I have alot of haters here who talk shit to me when I post reports like my last Bogota report for example.
But anyways there is lots of stuff to do in Medellin. Enjoy.
Gabacho.
I went to Medellin to hook up with the ladies. None really to be found during the day in parque lleras. I wen to the mall, I ate at different resaurants, I don't drink coffee, I didn't do the cable car, I don't know any chica the well to go outside towns of Medelin (my first time in Colombia), I did walk around centro and I didn't get a massage.
I went to Medellin to mess around with some chicas, but from 12 pm tp 8 pm its no chicas around. I try calling some over during the day. But only 1 out of 4 showed up.If all you want is chicas then just go to plaza botero during the daytime hours, problem solved. There is nothing to be afraid of there just use your common sense and you will be fine.
My very first visit to Medellin I went to Botero and no one killed me.
Hello brothers around the world!
I'm a Korean planning a sex tour of Central and South America! I think I'll probably fly into Medellin next week!
So can you give me some tips and nightlife hotspots?
I've seen a lot of YouTube videos of women with huge asses wearing leggings and jeans in dense areas like squares. Can you point me to those areas? Are all women dressed in slutty clothes working girls? I want threesomes I also want information of threesomes girls with good teamwork.
Lastly, I'm Asian and in Asia we don't do waxing Is it true that waxing has been popularized in the West and especially in South America? Do chika hate it if you have hair? Do I have to go get waxed I don't want it to hurt meow.
Mr Enternational
04-16-24, 18:18
I went to Medellin to mess around with some chicas, but from 12 pm tp 8 pm its no chicas around. I try calling some over during the day. But only 1 out of 4 showed up.Day time casas and downtown chicks. Night time strip clubs and parque lleras chicks. Any time facebook chicks, mileroticos, other online sites. You didn't even go to New Life? Did you guys do any research before the trip?
Coolie High
04-16-24, 20:03
In closing. My years in Colombia have been some of the best of my life. I have become closer to God learning true religious culture. I have fucked literally 100's of women, had 3-somes, 4-somes, 5-somes, and FAR more once with 23 girls + me in a place in Guatape. The smell of vagina was HEAVENLY and one of my best memories in life.So I was going to be that guy and re-post that long quality post again that YyzTravel put up a few pages back because to be honest it still reaIly deserves honorable mention BUT what I want to ask is could you tell the story of how you wounded up being around 23 females and you. And you smashing ALL 23💪. To have that type of stamina is amazing as I too have a VERY high sex drive but to coordinate and bring together 23 females for you pleasure is MOST Impressive.
Hell me and brother Grownman1 tried to setup a 10 woman smash-a-thon for my return to DR a couple years ago and it was a logistic nightmare😳. We wounded up with only 5 ladies coming over and had a blast but if GM1 wasnt there to help coordinate everything I wouldve been screwed.
...We went to the park with the fat lady statues and took a few pics. ...You don't know where things are. You can go again around 4 PM or before noon, walk further inside find the white church Veracruz That is where you can find them. When you leave, it will be the opposite direction, go straight and walk across the street and turn right at the light. You will find two strip clubs. You should be able to see the big rabbit ear sign from the park, or google Conejitas.
You don't know where things are. You can go again around 4 PM or before noon, walk further inside find the white church Veracruz That is where you can find them. When you leave, it will be the opposite direction, go straight and walk across the street and turn right at the light. You will find two strip clubs. You should be able to see the big rabbit ear sign from the park, or google Conejitas.I am surprised at the number of guys who don't know where things are and what to do in Medellin when they arrive in Medellin. Before you leave, you can actually read this thread and go back a number of pages and get a lot of useful information. There is also this new thing called the Internet where you can find information about stuff. There is also this website a few people know about called YouTube where there are videos posted by guys about where to go, how to get there and how things work. You don't have to come to Medellin with no knowledge of the place. It's a choice I guess, but knowing things makes for a better trip.
Conejitas and Barra Executiva, I think Club Maracaibo did not reopen after the pandemic. Use uber or didi to arrive and leave after dark. I haven't been in a while but I think they cost 100 or so on site and 150 or so take out. Other members please keep me honest about the cost because my information about that is out of date.
I never knew Medellin has waterpark LOL. I would definitely check that out with a chica.
What's anything to see and visit in Bello? I heard a lot of people talked about that place all the time but also one place that I have never visited.
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