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I can delete if not appropriate, just giving my 1st trip report which I thought were ok. No doubt regulars don't need this.You may, perhaps, have misinterpreted my comment. Many regulars have been anxious about the visitor friendliness of hotels and airbnbs close to the action especially with the concomitant restrictions and frenzy about sex tourism posted in those areas. You have opened their eyes to a solution.
Playa de Carmen. Do you mean Playa del Carmen, and that is Mexico, right? And many many years ago it was $200 US there. 460 mil pesos is many thousands of dollars.Yeah PDC, other commenter mentioned Costa Rica being option if paying high in Colombia. Which I agree, if overpaying the 1 girl I couldve took a shorter flight elsewhere. The visiting Colombianas in PDC will take $117 usd equivalent in 2000 Mexican pesos (in cop I meant 460,000 which was confusing). In Cancun 1 HR to North the same girls will charge 3500 Mx pesos $206 usd as a floor, even up to $350+ dude to the big American market there.
You may, perhaps, have misinterpreted my comment. Many regulars have been anxious about the visitor friendliness of hotels and airbnbs close to the action especially with the concomitant restrictions and frenzy about sex tourism posted in those areas. You have opened their eyes to a solution.Gotcha. This forum has been super helpful so I didn't want to clutter.
If I was to stay in Poblado and did not know this forum a small youtuber DannyBooBoo reviews a bunch Poblado hotels and their guest policy, but it seems Poblados on a week to week basis so only boots on the ground will know.
Not completely true on your added commentary. The police have a search and check right in Medellin. They asked the women for their identification and the police have a right to search individuals in the park. Nothing illegal about that in Medellin. The girls decided to attack the uniformed police officers. Including punching and biting. If people were to act like that in the states they would get the shit kicked out of them.
Parque Lleras needs to be "cleaned up" before it becomes another cesspool like El Centro.
This vid typifies the action of the "rescue industry". According to the commentary, the police intervened in order to fight "sexual exploitation". This meant rescuing (= arresting) women against their best interest.
You can attach photos as long as you're a senior member. I currently don't have a subscription but I am attaching a picture.JJB is right because the poster is not a senior.
You have opened their eyes to a solution.For those looking for this solution, you need to pay attention to where your dates are from as Uber could easily be 90 mil or more round trip if they are from the opposite side of the town. Or the girls would not come this far if she has other choice. Many of the Airbnb buildings in this area are large buildings with families and kids. It's better to ask your dates to not show up like a hooker.
Yeah PDC, other commenter mentioned Costa Rica being option if paying high in Colombia. Which I agree, if overpaying the 1 girl I couldve took a shorter flight elsewhere. The visiting Colombianas in PDC will take $117 usd equivalent in 2000 Mexican pesos (in cop I meant 460,000 which was confusing). In Cancun 1 HR to North the same girls will charge 3500 Mx pesos $206 usd as a floor, even up to $350+ dude to the big American market there.Surprised that PDC is cheaper than Cancun. Only time I looked around in PDC it was at a club close to the ferry terminal and it was $200 US minimum. But that might have been due to being in a high traffic tourist area, and my guess is that the rates you are talking about are not the high cost places. But all of that is more than some of what is available in Medellin, such as at the casas where prices are still less than $20 US for a half hour full service.
DonCarlos1234
05-06-24, 10:51
Not completely true on your added commentary.
Parque Lleras needs to be "cleaned up" before it becomes another cesspool like El Centro.What was an amazing place in years past has become a crowded tourist trap. It was soo different 2 months ago on my last trip before the Mayor and locals voicing their concerns. . just ignore the skanks and A holes. Hope for the best and maybe just maybe those who run the businesses there will understand that their reputations are going downhill fast to the lowest denominator.
Hello.
Has anyone recently found decent Nuru Massage in Medellin? I had one from prior trips but looks like she's no longer in business.
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
I am a 40-year-old divorced man is planning a trip to Medellin. I wan to find a companion (some english) to explore the city with, help me improve his Spanish, share some enjoyable dinners. I avoid dining alone in upscale restaurants and bars, love to have a companies. Additionally, if there's mutual attraction physical relationship but its optional. How will I go about finding one, SA?
StudPlayer
05-06-24, 23:35
Medellíand has changed and will continue to change. For the moment Medellíand is Loserville. More fun can be had cheaper with prettier girls in many other places now.
I totally agree with the Mayor.
It's their city, I did not hear USA have another new state.
Before gringos started arriving, the locals were the main buyers of pussy.
It's a sellers market, pure capitalism.
Why don't you gringos petition your senator to legalized prostitution.
Just stop complaining about other people country.
Oh that's the American way.
Want to fucking lecture every country.
Biden is bringing in the VZ by the thousands.
So you don't have to travel to Colombia.
Get a fucking life and stop whining and enjoy your time.
I do not give a fuck who is going to come after me.
I enjoy my time in Colombia with no complaints.
Sureman.
I totally agree with the Mayor.
It's their city, I did not hear USA have another new state.
Before gringos started arriving, the locals were the main buyers of pussy.
It's a sellers market, pure capitalism.
Why don't you gringos petition your senator to legalized prostitution.
Just stop complaining about other people country.
Oh that's the American way.
Want to fucking lecture every country.
Biden is bringing in the VZ by the thousands.
So you don't have to travel to Colombia.
Get a fucking life and stop whining and enjoy your time.
I do not give a fuck who is going to come after me.
I enjoy my time in Colombia with no complaints.
Sureman.The locals are still the main buyers of pussy.
And nothing says "I enjoy my time with no complaints" like an angry post full of complaints.
Changes in local laws, or the enforcement thereof, are things which can affect any visitor. Informing others of the changes is a good thing. Here's an example from the USA:
If you're old enough (and have ever bought alcohol in the US, you remember a time when no identification was needed if you looked old enough. Laws changed to combat underage drinking. Now you can be 60 years old and be refused the right to buy or drink alcohol without your identification. Asking a 60 year old man for identification does nothing to prevent underage drinking, but that's how it's enforced now.
StudBucket
05-07-24, 08:26
Another one I met through an agency and she was gorgeous. When I got her contact in insta that's when I realized she is a model by profession and agency is the way to keep low profile to earn money that way. Somehow we connected with each other and two years later she does evenything with me (she never said no to anything including videos. You can understand). I was casually talking to her about having a threesome and she showed me the pcitures of other girls in her modeling agency. I was shocked with the talent and guess what its not that expensive to get her friends into my hotel room. Since then it has been an exclusive access to all girls of that modeling agency. So far so good........Hi There Sukhanna.
I really enjoyed your post. I was wondering if you would be so cool as to share the name and number of that agency that has models? I would be happy to share my FB list and add you as a friend ; have over 100 FB friends many of which are hot. If you do not want to share publicly then drop me a PM. Thanks.
I totally agree with the Mayor.
It's their city, I did not hear USA have another new state.
Before gringos started arriving, the locals were the main buyers of pussy.
It's a sellers market, pure capitalism.
Why don't you gringos petition your senator to legalized prostitution.
Just stop complaining about other people country.
Oh that's the American way.
Want to fucking lecture every country.
Biden is bringing in the VZ by the thousands.
So you don't have to travel to Colombia.
Get a fucking life and stop whining and enjoy your time.
I do not give a fuck who is going to come after me.
I enjoy my time in Colombia with no complaints.
Sureman.Locals will show you a smiley face but they do not like foreigners banging their women and that is the root of the issue in Medellin. Foreigners account for less than one per cent of the mongers in Medellin but having become quite visible the locals (some of whom are mongers themselves) have gotten the mayor to invoke the crackdown law per " if it is deemed a threat to public order".
My advice to mongers is to be as discreet as possible as we used to be in the old days.
Regarding the US, mongering in NYC is not too bad right now, just the quality does not match that of Asia or Latin America, my biggest beef.
Your advice is golden and it applies before, during, and after the current hype cycle of xenophobic scapegoating.
Locals will show you a smiley face but they do not like foreigners banging their women and that is the root of the issue in Medellin. Foreigners account for less than one per cent of the mongers in Medellin but having become quite visible the locals (some of whom are mongers themselves) have gotten the mayor to invoke the crackdown law per " if it is deemed a threat to public order".
My advice to mongers is to be as discreet as possible as we used to be in the old days.
Regarding the US, mongering in NYC is not too bad right now, just the quality does not match that of Asia or Latin America, my biggest beef.
Here in Medellin for the first time. Visited New Life and a prepago online in Laureles. So far something is in the way of enjoyment there is a distinct fishy smell both times.
Am I going to the wrong places?
Exoticspirit
05-07-24, 22:23
In most other Latin America destinations I've been to, the expectation is usually to shower before the fun once you get a girl into the room. Sometimes the shower is together (more fun) while other times the girl wants to shower separately. What's the shower patterns in Medellin when you bring a girl back to your room? And what about at a casa like New Life or Energy or at the rooms within clubs like La Isla?
In most other Latin America destinations I've been to, the expectation is usually to shower before the fun once you get a girl into the room. Sometimes the shower is together (more fun) while other times the girl wants to shower separately. What's the shower patterns in Medellin when you bring a girl back to your room? And what about at a casa like New Life or Energy or at the rooms within clubs like La Isla?To date we have picked up 8 people from llars park.
I can't say for sure whether the women in Medellin tend to shower or not. Until now, the ratio was half and half.
There is also a significant percentage of people who shower after sex without showering at first. I think after having sex with a customer, he takes a shower and goes straight to the park to wait for the next customer.
Here in Medellin for the first time. Visited New Life and a prepago online in Laureles. So far something is in the way of enjoyment there is a distinct fishy smell both times.
Am I going to the wrong places?This is definitely not my experience at all, not even with street girls in el centro. Once in a blue moon maybe, but the majority of them have no odor. This is much more of an issue in Mexico in venues such as zona norte in Tijuana and la merced in CDMX.
Exoticspirit
05-08-24, 15:28
Here in Medellin for the first time. Visited New Life and a prepago online in Laureles. So far something is in the way of enjoyment there is a distinct fishy smell both times.
Am I going to the wrong places?I'm planning to visit New Life in about a week. How was it in terms of line up? Still 70,000?
You can ask girls to shower before, during, and / or after your sessions. I don't do Parque Lleras so I don't have a basis to confirm or deny your experience. I have had similar issues only on very rare occasions.
To date we have picked up 8 people from llars park.
I can't say for sure whether the women in Medellin tend to shower or not. Until now, the ratio was half and half.
There is also a significant percentage of people who shower after sex without showering at first. I think after having sex with a customer, he takes a shower and goes straight to the park to wait for the next customer.
I'm planning to visit New Life in about a week. How was it in terms of line up? Still 70,000?I have nothing recent. But New Life may have 50 to 70 different chicas on roster, all of them have different days they may come in, and at any given time you may only see 5, 10, or maybe 15 of them. So no comment on the "line up" is going to be useful. If you went every day for a month perhaps you could comment on the line-up, but by then a good portion will have changed. Having said that, if you are a regular you can get a gal to tell you when she'll be on shift again, and I suppose you could ask for her when you arrive. If she is in with another customer you could wait, and then at least you would have a warmed up pussy when you get your turn.
What is happening to online? It seems like there are way less girls advertising online. And the ones that are, are just overall lower quality.
I have enough girls in my rotation but my problem is that they only have ass. The only girl I had that has nice tits is gone outside the city and isn't coming back until after I leave. She had really big tits for her small skinny frame. Can't really quite replace her. I asked if I could fly her back to medellin and she's said no not even for the weekend. She's in some small coastal city visiting family and trying to deal with her depression. I want tits so bad I might just fly over there for the weekend. If not I might just fly back to Bogota for the weekend. I saw a girl online that could replace my girl. Too bad I saw her only after settling here in medellin.
So I'm on the hunt to fix my rotation and online I see not much. Haven't been to Lleras or la isla yet. One time in la isla I saw a girl with nice tits who could've replaced my girl but I didn't talk to her because I went to see my regular girl who has both a nice rack and a nice ass. Never saw the other girl at la isla again. Missed opportunity. I still have to check out fase dos because you guys are saying it's good now. I also have to check loutron again. Haven't been there in like 2 years. Might not be worth it tho since I don't want plastic.
I'm just looking for a small skinny girl with big natural tits. Is that too much to ask for?
KebabOperator
05-09-24, 01:49
Hello Gents,
I have been here for a couple of days (first time at the paisa source), and here is how things are on the ground from my lens.
Before I got here, I got so many conflicting reports I thought I was walking into a shit show. The reality is things are not as bad as they seem online, but I would say this is not a beginner-friendly city at all (unless you are staying in the Poblado area).
I still believe Camp Alegre was the best beginner place I have been to in terms of price and talent, other than FKK clubs in the EU, and I miss that place dearly. It was an amazing playground of 300 gorgeous playmates inside a safe walled campground. I hope they bring it back. St Marteen is not even close, so please don't even argue.
Now, the problem with Poblado is that it is so gringofied that you are basically overpaying for everything, and the vibe is very meh for me. Also, there are a lot of ugly gringas around—wonder what they are doing here?
Now for accommodations:
I stayed outside of Poblado because I got a way better price, and it has a more local feel. The hotel rates I was quoted in Poblado were bananas for Colombia (plus they want extra money for each girl LOL) and I plan on having a decent rotation going here. No bueno. I still have a weekend rooms booked in the Poblado Hotel for a group party I am throwing, but still, wtf?
Anyway, I don't like for anyone to have access to where I really sleep; thus, I always get two places. Now this is optional for most and a must for me. Usually, your budget dictates this, but for 500 USD, you can get a decent place for two weeks. Thus I have a play room and sleep / stash room in different buildings within walking distance. Total damage 1000. To me, that is reasonable, but once again, people in different tax brackets look at numbers differently so you do you boo.
Dinero Limits:
Daily pocket money limit I set for myself is 500 USD. This is what I allow myself to spend at most. The reality is I went hard and barely spent 350 the other day. So I think it will average out around 300 per day when I am done.
Here are my experiences so far.
Casas are an amazing deal if you just want wam bam thank you ma'am experience. Price can not be beat. Safe, reliable. Ok lineup. New life gets a thumbs up.
Plaza Boterro was a mixed bag for me. Some chicas standing there barely qualified as chicks, and there were some who were okay but not my seen. I think I will have to go more to catch a diamond in the rough but we will see, I don't have high hopes for it.
Food-wise, yes, you can afford most things, but if you are seriously into gastronomy, for serious eaters, I don't think this place is food heaven like Asia, Europe, or even Mexico. Don't get me wrong; it's good and acceptable, but you are not getting wowed here or at least I have not seen it yet. Feels like everyone is on island time here and just don't expect things on time. Even Rappi deliveries are on their own clock.
This reminds me. Rappi is a must. Get pro and get everything delivered. I ran out of money and condoms the other day. Rappi to the rescue. 6 AM McMuffin for the stuffed muffin under me? Yup, rappi to the rescue.
So far, I have had a decent experience with Ubers. Prices are reasonable (5-10 bucks), depending on where you are going and wait times, etc. The airport to my place was $100,000, so 25 bucks, basically, not ad at all.
Now for my best finds:
I made a friend with an Uber driver; bro turned out to be a decent dude. Hooked me up with a lot of things, connections, etc. Of course, I try to compensate everyone fairly, but for these kinds of things, you just have to feel it out if they are a leech or genuine (would not recommend this for Newbies to the game). 50 mil propina to the right person goes a long way.
I ran into a civil in Exito on the way to an appointment with my Uber driver, and I pulled her with my butchered Spanish. This shit was unexpected even for me. After my appointment, we texted, and she came over. All I can say is wow. Total damage was 300 mil for restaurants and gifts, supplies, etc, but for a 19 year old Gorgeous chica to me, worth it. She would not take money so I just got her one more gift. Win is a win. Don't be cheap in these kinds of times, gents. She then played tour guide during the day, which was very helpful, helped me run a couple of errands, explained the city, showed me around, etc. Of course, Before she left, we said goodbye in the proper way: the. She has some school things and will be done in a day, promised a friend for possible 3 way.
I had good luck with a couple of online girls. Made good connections, very nice sessions 450 TLN for a stunner nonplastic 22 year old Who also promised a friend. Next time she comes over.
I visited one online girl in Laureles and that also went well. 350 was damage here.
So far, I went to one strip club (Isla I think) with a new friend that he wanted to check it out, and it was meh. I have never been a fan of strip clubs, even back home, but I just don't get the point. Girls are meh to so-so in range, and most are poorly altered. Prices are stupid (think 600-700 LOL) plus you have to pay the house fee etc. I just don't get the logic with these, so maybe someone could enlighten me.
Anyway, I will update you with more findings when I can, but so far, it's not as bad as some fear-mongering members have made it seem. I am not dissatisfied yet, we will see how things progress.
I can only imagine how amazing this place was before all these price increases and shifts in politics.
Locals will show you a smiley face but they do not like foreigners banging their women and that is the root of the issue in Medellin. Foreigners account for less than one per cent of the mongers in Medellin but having become quite visible the locals (some of whom are mongers themselves) have gotten the mayor to invoke the crackdown law per " if it is deemed a threat to public order".
My advice to mongers is to be as discreet as possible as we used to be in the old days.
Regarding the US, mongering in NYC is not too bad right now, just the quality does not match that of Asia or Latin America, my biggest beef.Lleras is more wide open than ever a few weeks ago, Found three I liked, much prefer referrals, vetted or ol friends, but like the last post the OL Or FB chicas seems half what it was seven years ago, So many scammers, OF GPS, flakes and higher prices, still fun to be had while it last.
BlueChange
05-09-24, 03:10
What is happening to online? It seems like there are way less girls advertising online. And the ones that are, are just overall lower quality.
I have enough girls in my rotation but my problem is that they only have ass. The only girl I had that has nice tits is gone outside the city and isn't coming back until after I leave. She had really big tits for her small skinny frame. Can't really quite replace her. I asked if I could fly her back to medellin and she's said no not even for the weekend. She's in some small coastal city visiting family and trying to deal with her depression. I want tits so bad I might just fly over there for the weekend. If not I might just fly back to Bogota for the weekend. I saw a girl online that could replace my girl. Too bad I saw her only after settling here in medellin.
So I'm on the hunt to fix my rotation and online I see not much. Haven't been to Lleras or la isla yet. One time in la isla I saw a girl with nice tits who could've replaced my girl but I didn't talk to her because I went to see my regular girl who has both a nice rack and a nice ass. Never saw the other girl at la isla again. Missed opportunity. I still have to check out fase dos because you guys are saying it's good now. I also have to check loutron again. Haven't been there in like 2 years. Might not be worth it tho since I don't want plastic.
I'm just looking for a small skinny girl with big natural tits. Is that too much to ask for?Where online are you looking? Perhaps I can point you in the right direction. I might know some.
KebabOperator
05-10-24, 17:40
Things are going well.
Thursday, I had some work in the morning, and after all the meetings, I was not hungry, I was haaangry. I could have taken down entire pigglet by mself. What was supposed to be a quick lunch turned into 2. 5 hours of drinking, laughing, and planning with my local Colombian counterpart. Man, people are very chill here, and I like that very much.
Don't get me wrong, I got a couple of dirty looks and even people outright looking disrespectful when I tried to grab a late-night bite in Laureles, but overall, people are nice. I just don't understand the hostility some locals have with foreigners; most foreigners I met are respectful and keep to themselves, plus we are spending local monthly salary in a day, ergo helping the local economy, so why the anger and disgust? What did some other foreigners do to get to this level? I need some backstory / history here if anybody is willing to enlighten me. Also, everyone, please govern yourself accordingly, like the civilized, decent humans that you are, and don't be a dick. We don't need bad energy and enemies here. Unnecessary.
After lunch and drinking, I did a quick casa visit (somewhere in bello) recommended by my driver, and it was meh. It satisfied the itch, but New Life had a better lineup. I guess it was a very local place, which is always interesting, but I am a quality over quantity persona, and let's just say I won't repeat this location. We grabbed some cervezas with my driver by my place as he told me some funny stories; he promised more quality for next time, and we partied ways. Overall good time.
I was in the mood for some more, so I texted a girl from FB (Lorena, 21, all-natural, objectively 8), and she came over to my designated playroom. The Damage was 300, little more than 2 hours. This girl literally hugged me three times in the doorway as she was kissing & leaving me and then literally shook my hand lmfao I was cracking up so hard. I guess I passed the test LOL.
Anyway, I had some gas left in me, so I was wandering around Laurles, just doing my usual recon tour, when I heard someone screaming my name from across the street. I did not have glasses or contacts, so I could not even see who it was so I stood there and waived like a stooge; as she got closer, it was one of the girls working with the local team, and to say that they were gorgeous would be an understatement of the century. She was out with two of her friends at a local bar, and one of the friends was whippinn around in new Benz GLE, so they definitely were not starving. Anyway, after the small talk, she asked me what I had planned; I said I was studying the local land, and she laughed and said let me take you out tomorrow and show you real Medellin. I mean, who would say no? So, big plans for Friday loading. We all said goodbyes, exchanged WhatsApps, etc, and the girl I knew and one with the Benz left.
The third girl apparently lived nearby, and basically, since I was looking for a barbershop, she said she would show me on the way. We Got to the spot just in time, as they closed at 8. I got cleaned up (beard / hair), and during the cut, she kept complimenting me repeatedly to the point where the barber had a constant smirk on his face. I said it felt like the night was not done yet. Maybe we should hangout / drink somewhere. When I tell you her eyes lit up like a little kid, it was the cutest thing ever. Since I don't know any good spots yet, I told her she picks the place, I pay, and she may have to carry me home: the. Little did I know this would be foreshadowing. We ended up on some rooftop place with very good food, decent drinks, and usual 4 note music in rotation. This went on for 3-4 hours; dn lost track of time. We had really good conversation, she told me about her life etc, I explained little more about myself etc. We were really vibing. She is the type of girl who is always smiling, and just the damn energy coming from her was very nice. I mean, a drop-dead gorgeous 22-year-old girl full of life and enjoying herself, what more can you ask for? (objectively a 9 if not 10). Anyway, I seem to be saving money here in Colombia, in terms of P2P, because other than food and drinks, this did not cost jack squat (I did send her Jador and flowers through Rappi as a thank you but I mean she deserved it). Activities were nonstop all night; Nobody got any sleep, but everybody was happy. If one could put this kind of talent on a resume, she definitely needs to do it in capital letters lmfao. She just left, but not before she cleaned up my place, LOL. Yes, I broke my stupid rule, I took her to my actual bed, not the playroom, bcoz playroom was messy and smelled like pussy from before, and I was not willing to walk drunk two more blocks. This night will go down in my personal book as one of the best (def on top 30 list). It is about 11:40 AM here, and neither of us could stand straight after last night. I literally had to help her to her Uber; poor girl going to be sore for a bit.
So much for my big rotation plans, but three in a day is still not bad. Honestly, the third girl, I would take one a day like that and be happy; this chick took all my energy and half my DNA and wants more. I need to stock up on Zinc supplements to reload the guns.
I wrote all this report for people who want to come enjoy this beautiful city and life here. It is still good. It is very fun. It is not dangerously unsafe, and Talent is just off the charts. Don't listen to the nay-sayers and Fudgin idiots. Just like in every country there are people with decent head on their shoulders, idiots and idiots squared. Be smart and you will be very happy.
P.S. I heard through a new expat friend that some guy got robbed yesterday while holding his phone in one of his hands and trying to count the cash with another hand at 9 PM in the Plaza Botero area. I mean, if "I am asking for it was a person," this guy would have his picture in a book. Please don't do stupid shit like that. When it gets dark, you leave the Plaza Botero area.
Operator out. Until next time.
DownLow123
05-10-24, 20:07
Locals will show you a smiley face but they do not like foreigners banging their women and that is the root of the issue in Medellin. Foreigners account for less than one per cent of the mongers in Medellin but having become quite visible the locals (some of whom are mongers themselves) have gotten the mayor to invoke the crackdown law per " if it is deemed a threat to public order".
My advice to mongers is to be as discreet as possible as we used to be in the old days.
Regarding the US, mongering in NYC is not too bad right now, just the quality does not match that of Asia or Latin America, my biggest beef.Interested in the prices? Would beat flying down to MDE every few months LOL.
DownLow123
05-10-24, 20:13
In most other Latin America destinations I've been to, the expectation is usually to shower before the fun once you get a girl into the room. Sometimes the shower is together (more fun) while other times the girl wants to shower separately. What's the shower patterns in Medellin when you bring a girl back to your room? And what about at a casa like New Life or Energy or at the rooms within clubs like La Isla?Speaking exclusively from fb girls, I never showered before the business. A few showered themselves, but never on a 1st meet. Repeat business I have showered with them if they ask.
It's safe to assume to mingle with the chick 1st, than invite her to the room, for me it's under the disguise of musica to make it a bit more natural experience for her. Can't tell you how many girls start grinding on me while undressing during a little reggueton. They LOVE Carol G.
What did some other foreigners do to get to this level? I need some backstory / history here if anybody is willing to enlighten me. Conquered them and enslaved them for centuries while stealing all their precious metals and raping their women? Just a guess. You know, foreigners like Cortes and Pizarro. In the specific case of the Yew Ess and Colombia, the Yew Ess stole Panama from Colombia to build the canal. If Colombia had the revenue from the canal, things would be considerably different.
Interested in the prices? Would beat flying down to MDE every few months LOL.Check out Roosevelt Ave. Asian / Latina from around $200 to $400 per hr. I understand half hour is also available from some for half that.
Things are going well.
Thursday, I had some work in the morning, and after all the meetings, I was not hungry, I was haaangry. I could have taken down entire pigglet by mself. What was supposed to be a quick lunch turned into 2. 5 hours of drinking, laughing, and planning with my local Colombian counterpart. Man, people are very chill here, and I like that very much.
Operator out. Until next time.Nice report! Keep enjoying!
.......Don't get me wrong, I got a couple of dirty looks and even people outright looking disrespectful .......Could it be because they believe foreigners are causing the local talent to hike their prices?
Could it be because they believe foreigners are causing the local talent to hike their prices?It's obviously because of the ruckus some guys are causing and the bad press lately.
I doubt some middle aged lady giving one the stink eye gives a hoot about the PFP pricing, lol.
Where online are you looking? Perhaps I can point you in the right direction. I might know some.Looking on mileroticos, photoprepagos, pasionprepagos, Skokka, and just searching up "escort Medellin".
Who knew finding a girl of this body type would be so hard.
Looking on mileroticos, photoprepagos, pasionprepagos, Skokka, and just searching up "escort Medellin".
Who knew finding a girl of this body type would be so hard.These websites have always been awful. Learn to use Facebook, Tinder and Instagram. Of course be careful as some of these girls might be ill intentioned.
What is happening to online? It seems like there are way less girls advertising online. And the ones that are, are just overall lower quality.
I have enough girls in my rotation but my problem is that they only have ass. ......
I'm just looking for a small skinny girl with big natural tits. Is that too much to ask for?Apparently it is. And small skinny girls with big natural tits is, well, unnatural.
Apparently it is. And small skinny girls with big natural tits is, well, unnatural.That is what I thought until I met this girl in Medellin.
Slim petite girl with large natural breasts in Medellin.
Conquered them and enslaved them for centuries while stealing all their precious metals and raping their women? Just a guess. You know, foreigners like Cortes and Pizarro. In the specific case of the Yew Ess and Colombia, the Yew Ess stole Panama from Colombia to build the canal. If Colombia had the revenue from the canal, things would be considerably different.Don't forget Chiquita Banana!
Slim petite girl with large natural breasts in Medellin.I like it. I'll be there in a coule of weeks. Where did you fne her?
Mr Enternational
05-12-24, 15:50
Conquered them and enslaved them for centuries while stealing all their precious metals and raping their women? Just a guess. You know, foreigners like Cortes and Pizarro. In the specific case of the Yew Ess and Colombia, the Yew Ess stole Panama from Colombia to build the canal. If Colombia had the revenue from the canal, things would be considerably different.Yeah shit would have always been different AFTER seeing what another mf has done. Colombia had the land how many hundreds of years and did not dig canal the first. Clear rocks have been sitting in the ground in South Africa how many millions of years, but people got bent out of shape when a foreigner came along and decided to dig them up and shine them and sell them to people for a ridiculous amount of money.
Mr Enternational
05-12-24, 15:59
Don't get me wrong, I got a couple of dirty looks and even people outright looking disrespectful when I tried to grab a late-night bite in Laureles, but overall, people are nice. I just don't understand the hostility some locals have with foreigners; most foreigners I met are respectful and keep to themselves, plus we are spending local monthly salary in a day, ergo helping the local economy, so why the anger and disgust? What did some other foreigners do to get to this level? If I had to guess then I would say parading hookers around. If is a matter of foreigners not being able to see the forest because of the trees.
I like it. I'll be there in a coule of weeks. Where did you fne her?I found her on Facebook. Most people believe that Colombian girls are thick and curvy with large breasts and asses but there are a fair number of girls who are slim and petite. Usually these slim petite girls have small breasts but from time to time, you can find slim petite girls with bigger breasts. If they are younger, they usually have natural breasts because they don't have the money for enhancements.
Check out Roosevelt Ave. Asian / Latina from around $200 to $400 per hr. I understand half hour is also available from some for half that.400 will get you 2 pops and BBFS with Latinas or Asians.
Lots and lots of AMPS now have Latinas working for them.
JackTaggart
05-12-24, 18:43
Slim petite girl with large natural breasts in Medellin.She looks curvy / athletic to me. Not petite. I am splitting hairs though. Seems like a good situation.
In USA she would definitely be petite. After I started coming to Colombia I stopped filtering out curvy girls from seeking / other online profiles. I always found in USA curvy meant obese and possibly morbidly obese, so I filtered them out here to start. I was leaving out some awesome situations. Same with the "average" classification. Girls seem to be more honest / critical of themselves here compared to USA.
Mr Enternational
05-12-24, 19:14
She looks curvy / athletic to me. Not petite.LOL. And that is exactly the problem with this supposedly "objective" rating system.
parading hookers around. It happens more in El Poblado area because high end punters like to take the girls out, but I don't think it happens that often elsewhere. Some girls are self aware and they won't go out with customeri.
There are other factors involved. Some long time renters are being displaced from apartments that they have lived many years. Issues like this go on the news and it affects normal people. They could not do many things that they used to be able to do.
I am surprised that he got the bad look multiple times from the locals if he was alone. If he was with a girl, I will be curious what is his age. I don't remember I got any bad look just walking around except the locals tried to rob me with a knife. LOL.
Some long time renters are being displaced from apartments that they have lived many years. Issues like this go on the news and it affects normal people. They could not do many things that they used to be able to do.
That's a huge one. Of course if you're a Colombian that happens to own the apartment, you did really well. But there's been a lot of press lately about long time renters being displaced specifically by foreigners who are not that price-sensitive (sort of like the newby monger showing up in Gustos for the first time).
Interested in the prices? Would beat flying down to MDE every few months LOL.While yeah NYC has every vice possible, imo considering all the money there and illegality (big newsworthy sting in the northeast not too long ago, even local politicians weren't safe) I don't think it's worth the premium cost and risk unless you're there and are rich. Atlanta and South Florida are more discrete with plenty of Colombianas, Cubans.
You can even just fly to Montreal. Do takeout from a club like Chez Paree, or one of the 5 or 6 well vetted agencies to send to your hotel all day. I think avg is like 180 usd equivalent in cad per hour. Colombianas were easy to find.
Slim petite girl with large natural breasts in Medellin.Excellent find, Mr. Moon Shot. Wish I could get one like that.
Mojo Bandit
05-13-24, 00:12
I don't remember I got any bad look just walking around except the locals tried to rob me with a knife. LOL.Only Nounce would laugh about getting held up at knife point! I am curious Nounce, because I remember that you spent a lot of time in El Centro and talked about walking around there extensively and to the far corners of El Centro at night: did only just about get robbed one time. Did you have other negative encounters?
Elvis 2008
05-13-24, 02:27
You can even just fly to Montreal. Do takeout from a club like Chez Paree, or one of the 5 or 6 well vetted agencies to send to your hotel all day. I think avg is like 180 usd equivalent in cad per hour. Colombianas were easy to find.LOL. Yeah, I have been told it is easier for a Colombian to get a Canadian visa than an American one. I get the thought process for going to Canada over Colombia now.
The "say no to sex tourism" campaign has been around for at 15 years that I'm aware of. That is when I remember the signs going up in high end establishments in Poblado and Laureles. A couple of the restaurants on carrera 33 in Provenza that are popular with upmarket Colombians and with gringos display the signs very prominently at their entrances. Anyway, the over the top reporting emphasis on gringo villains seems to have faded from the press. You would never even know about if you just started reading the papers and watching the local news the past three weeks or so.
If I had to guess then I would say parading hookers around. If is a matter of foreigners not being able to see the forest because of the trees.
Elvis 2008
05-13-24, 03:29
I got a couple of dirty looks and even people outright looking disrespectful when I tried to grab a late-night bite in Laureles, but overall, people are nice. I just don't understand the hostility some locals have with foreigners; most foreigners I met are respectful and keep to themselves, plus we are spending local monthly salary in a day, ergo helping the local economy, so why the anger and disgust? What did some other foreigners do to get to this level? I need some backstory / history here if anybody is willing to enlighten me.It just must be me and you because when I had a customs agent look at me in disgust everyone has some bullshit line about what happened. To repeat, I am at customs in the Colombians only line because it was the only line open. Customs lady is about to let me through. She goes through my passport sees all the Colombia stamps and becomes disgusted and was about to have me go in the foreigner line. Then my gal goes into the biomig electronic line with her daughter and is waving and smiling at me. Customs agent totally changes her tune, smiles, and lets me through. That look of disgust was only in Medellin by the way. I have not seen that look in any other city when I have come into Colombia.
What changed her mind? Well, imagine she has a smart daughter. She helps with her homework every night, and she is going to be someone and improve not just her lot in life but the life of her family and community. Then some rich foreign dickhead comes along, throws money at her, gets her hooked on he drugs, and ruins her life. How would you feel if that were YOUR daughter?
So you can see why the customs lady had the change of heart. She saw that I was helping Colombian children and families not hurting them.
You can blame the kid, make excuses ETC but if you are a parent and this happens to your daughter, you are going to be pissed, and Medellin is a dog eat dog world compared to the other cities and because of that guys here have responded by saying and doing some of the dumbest things imaginable on this forum. I hope that is in part because some of the women have been so horrible.
But if it bugs you that much, check out the other cities. Bogota has nothing like this, and Cartagena, even with the mayor cracking down on street walkers, does not have the degree of hostility you see in Medellin. Medellin does have the country's best looking women though if you want to put up with this.
It just must be me and you because when I had a customs agent look at me in disgust everyone has some bullshit line about what happened. To repeat, I am at customs in the Colombians only line because it was the only line open. Customs lady is about to let me through. She goes through my passport sees all the Colombia stamps and becomes disgusted and was about to have me go in the foreigner line. Then my gal goes into the biomig electronic line with her daughter and is waving and smiling at me. Customs agent totally changes her tune, smiles, and lets me through. That look of disgust was only in Medellin by the way. I have not seen that look in any other city when I have come into Colombia.
Yes, they just hate guys with lots of entry stamps, Lol.
You're evil! Lol.
Or maybe she had indigestion, having a bad day, you cut the line, she's just an angry person or maybe she just didn't like you, Lol.
I've been entering Colombia for about 25 years.
As far as immigration officials go, some are nice, some are very friendly, and some just aren't.
It's been the same with the locals in town.
Just be cool, and respectful and most will reciprocate.
Obviously the recent press has influenced some, however, there's been flare ups in the past.
The vast majority have their lives, worries, etc.
No time to care about how many entry stamps Elvis has, Lol.
So you can see why the customs lady had the change of heart. She saw that I was helping Colombian children and families not hurting them.
But if it bugs you that much, check out the other cities. Bogota has nothing like this, and Cartagena, even with the mayor cracking down on street walkers, does not have the degree of hostility you see in Medellin. The is worldwide. If you are a single male you are viewed with suspicion! True, especially by other women who judge us.
I even see this at church. If I enter with a lady friend, the staff are all over us with kindness because they see I have conformed to their rules and expectations. If alone I am presumed to have just gotten out of jail and from the prison ministries, so I am a criminal. Sad, but people all around are judgmental, and will not admit it. If you are married and with your family you get an extra bonus of politeness and respect. Being a single male they distrust us.
Elvis 2008
05-13-24, 19:52
No time to care about how many entry stamps Elvis has, Lol.Of all the dumb things to assume, this is the worst. You think you are in the same boat as me? Or have an elevated status? LOL.
I said one thing that was wrong. It is the Colombian phone system that would be tracking you and I would assume that the Colombian authorities would have full access to that. What do you think they would find tracking your phone compared to mine?
And with that information, poof, there goes your imaginary bullshit that you are more well liked than me. LOL.
Actually, the customs agent last time I was in Cartagena suggested I get a visa so I could be distinguished from guys like you, and I am going to look into it.
That is what I thought until I met this girl in Medellin.Look at her for example at Sophiemudd or this cam girl at iamchloeharper_ I think she's in manizales tho.
I guess I just got lucky the very first time I cam to medellin I met the girl I'm talking about on mileroticos. Because now she left and I can't find anyone else like her. She looks like the girl in the picture you sent. They banned me on tinder twice. Once for saying no trans and the first time for saying I was looking for a sugar baby. It's not like anyone matched with me because I look hispanic.
Got to figure out the instagram game and get better at the facebook game.
Yes, they just hate guys with lots of entry stamps, Lol.
You're evil! Lol.
Or maybe she had indigestion, having a bad day, you cut the line, she's just an angry person or maybe she just didn't like you, Lol.
I've been entering Colombia for about 25 years.
As far as immigration officials go, some are nice, some are very friendly, and some just aren't.
It's been the same with the locals in town.
Just be cool, and respectful and most will reciprocate.
Obviously the recent press has influenced some, however, there's been flare ups in the past.
The vast majority have their lives, worries, etc.
No time to care about how many entry stamps Elvis has, Lol.For me, usually going through immigration is a breeze once you get through the lines which can be long at times. I say Hello, give them my passport and a few minutes later, they hand it back to me with a stamp. Usually they don't ask me any questions and I don't say anything.
Look at her for example at Sophiemudd or this cam girl at iamchloeharper_ I think she's in manizales tho.
I guess I just got lucky the very first time I cam to medellin I met the girl I'm talking about on mileroticos. Because now she left and I can't find anyone else like her. She looks like the girl in the picture you sent. They banned me on tinder twice. Once for saying no trans and the first time for saying I was looking for a sugar baby. It's not like anyone matched with me because I look hispanic.
Got to figure out the instagram game and get better at the facebook game.I've spent 10 months here and my preferences have changed by being here. I used to be an ass guy coming from the us. No one is fit over there so people nice booties are rare and when I came here the first thing I did was find a girl with a big fake butt at La isla. I went back so many times to do that one girl. Then I realized that that body type is very common. Then I found the girl I was talking about who has a big rack but has no fat anywhere else on her body and at first I was like she looks good and feels good but she's not that big of a deal. And so I tried to explore and replace her but I always came coming back. And then now that she's not available I understand what I have lost.
Usually you are fat and you have tits or you are skinny and you have ass. Skin why with big tits is rare. And that's the story of how I became a tits guy. I know a girl who has both at La isla but I don't want to keep paying 600 k+ and having to go from laureles to poblado every time and she's only available on the weekends. The hunt continues. Feels bad tho because I got a new job and I have return to the US and give this hobby up for the foreseeable future.
Exoticspirit
05-14-24, 02:19
What do you guys do during daytime hours on rainy days in Medellin?
Idk guys. I won't say medellin is dead but it's def not as easy as it used it be.
I'm writing this post because I just remembered something. I was in Santo domingo recently and I saw a bunch of girls that are from medellin and also work on the online websites like mileroticos. One of the girls messaged me out of the blue and told me that she has "returned". At first I thought she's returned to medellin. But then I realized that she's messaging me because she wants to see me in Santo Domingo. That is, she's left medellin again. A lot of girls from here are going to other countries. And a lot of girls are moving on with their lives. Like the skinny girl with big tits I've been talking about stopped working publicly at the end of last year. She started going to university and would still see me because she likes me. But as soon as they made her clases remote she booked it to the coast to live cheap with her mom. Another cam girl I'm seeing right now is not camming. She's doing college. What I'm seeing is that there's not that many girls online anymore and it's not that easy to find good quality. Again, I haven't been to la isla yet so there's that but that's just one small subsection of the whole city.
What I am seeing tho is a lot of girls in Bogota. Like Bogota hasn't changed and I will see say that in some regards it has improved. It's either that it's just the time of year or that this is permanent. There's even this other girl on pasionprepagos called like valentina paisa or something and she used to be in medellin and now she moved to Bogota.
A lot of girls from Cali go to Santo domingo and punta cana. I think the girlsstill exist, they are just harder to reach and / or not all concentrated in medellin. After I leve to the US for at least a year and don't return until maybe December for like a week, I'll probably not come back if my girl that's skinny with big tits is not here. If I'm going to go to Colombia, I'm probably going to go to cartagena for a short time and then Bogota for a longer time because santa fe is good and the online scene is getting better.
Also check out the "las nenas Bogota" it's an agency that also works in medellin and they have some good pictures up. Tried tonight but the girl couldn't make it. It'll try tomorrow. I don't think I want to spend copious amounts of time looking for girls on facebook and instagram and seeking. I kinda like the experience of a club like la isla / online where I see a girl kinda naked and say "Hey want to go?" and it's just that easy. If I can't find quality and that level of ease in medellin it's probably not work it to come.
Idk guys. I won't say medellin is dead but it's def not as easy as it used it be.
I'm writing this post because I just remembered something. I was in Santo domingo recently and I saw a bunch of girls that are from medellin and also work on the online websites like mileroticos. One of the girls messaged me out of the blue and told me that she has "returned". At first I thought she's returned to medellin. But then I realized that she's messaging me because she wants to see me in Santo Domingo. That is, she's left medellin again. A lot of girls from here are going to other countries. And a lot of girls are moving on with their lives. Like the skinny girl with big tits I've been talking about stopped working publicly at the end of last year. She started going to university and would still see me because she likes me. But as soon as they made her clases remote she booked it to the coast to live cheap with her mom. Another cam girl I'm seeing right now is not camming. She's doing college. What I'm seeing is that there's not that many girls online anymore and it's not that easy to find good quality. Again, I haven't been to la isla yet so there's that but that's just one small subsection of the whole city.
What I am seeing tho is a lot of girls in Bogota. Like Bogota hasn't changed and I will see say that in some regards it has improved. It's either that it's just the time of year or that this is permanent. There's even this other girl on pasionprepagos called like valentina paisa or something and she used to be in medellin and now she moved to Bogota.
A lot of girls from Cali go to Santo domingo and punta cana. I think the girlsstill exist, they are just harder to reach and / or not all concentrated in medellin. After I leve to the US for at least a year and don't return until maybe December for like a week, I'll probably not come back if my girl that's skinny with big tits is not here. If I'm going to go to Colombia, I'm probably going to go to cartagena for a short time and then Bogota for a longer time because santa fe is good and the online scene is getting better.
Also check out the "las nenas Bogota" it's an agency that also works in medellin and they have some good pictures up. Tried tonight but the girl couldn't make it. It'll try tomorrow. I don't think I want to spend copious amounts of time looking for girls on facebook and instagram and seeking. I kinda like the experience of a club like la isla / online where I see a girl kinda naked and say "Hey want to go?" and it's just that easy. If I can't find quality and that level of ease in medellin it's probably not work it to come.Girls are always moving on from the business, always have. But perhaps this is a time where it is accelerating a bit, and it seems to me it could be the case that it is a cost of living versus the payday from prostitution that has changed at the margin. Same thing happened in Costa Rica, where the 40 to 60 dollars the guys paid in 2005 went a lot further than the 80 to 100 they are paying now. The cost of living has probably tripled in that time in CR, the value of the US dollar went up and now down drastically relative to the colon, and overall it is not the jackpot for the girls like it once was. So they are more inclined to move on. And getting some education and setting up for a real future is certainly a better option for many than trying to still make a living in your 40's from this business. So it is probably the smart ones that are moving on. In Medellin especially once you get into the 30's it is an uphill battle to do well in this industry. The smart ones know that and start moving into a better career by the time they hit around 25.
Casas, where there are fewer than normal punters. The Colombians don't jump on their motorcycles and hop over to the casas as much when it rains heavily. Many gringo punters either wait out the rain or spend the time waiting for facebook girls to show up.
What do you guys do during daytime hours on rainy days in Medellin?
I did only just about get robbed one time. Did you have other negative encounters?I encountered 3 robbery attempts in about that 7 day period. The one you indicated is around midnight on Monday by two guys on a moto on Oriental. The second one is near the Metro station Estadio around 3 PM. The 3rd one is at Laureles near the border to Centro around 10:30 AM.
The forth one is last week at 10 AM by a man with a knife. This time the robber got a hold of my arm before I jumped into the 6 lane traffic. He let go of me while I tried to pull away so I fell to the ground. He followed and tried to target my pocket. I kicked him. He left before traffic came.
I spent a lot of time walking. Medellin is perfectly safe if you don't walk alone too much or just walk inside the mall. Hehe.
Exoticspirit
05-15-24, 12:19
I encountered 3 robbery attempts in about that 7 day period. The one you indicated is around midnight on Monday by two guys on a moto on Oriental. The second one is near the Metro station Estadio around 3 PM. The 3rd one is at Laureles near the border to Centro around 10:30 AM.
The forth one is last week at 10 AM by a man with a knife. This time the robber got a hold of my arm before I jumped into the 6 lane traffic. He let go of me while I tried to pull away so I fell to the ground. He followed and tried to target my pocket. I kicked him. He left before traffic came.
I spent a lot of time walking. Medellin is perfectly safe if you don't walk alone too much or just walk inside the mall. Hehe.I was actually planning to walk from the metro Estadio station to Energy spa later this week during a late morning. Would you suggest not to?
I was actually planning to walk from the metro Estadio station to Energy spa later this week during a late morning. Would you suggest not to?I would not suggest against it as I still walk and the distance I covered is long, think 6 metro stops. It's better that you memorize the route. I think one advantage I had and was able to escape most of the times because I don't need map and can concentrate on walking so I was able to see danger in time. It's a probability so there is a random element in it. You will be fine for many years until you are not.
Things are going well...Interesting reports. How old are you approximately?
Girls are always moving on from the business, always have. But perhaps this is a time where it is accelerating a bit, and it seems to me it could be the case that it is a cost of living versus the payday from prostitution that has changed at the margin. Same thing happened in Costa Rica, where the 40 to 60 dollars the guys paid in 2005 went a lot further than the 80 to 100 they are paying now. In Medellin especially once you get into the 30's it is an uphill battle to do well in this industry. IMO its mainly caused by comsumer demand. Foreigners come in to the scene and start paying higher rates than the locals. Some girls suddenly get richer and are enabled to move on. It happened in all major sex tourism destinations that I know of. Medellin is no different. Guys come along and pay COP 200.000 (and often more) for a session, arguing that they can afford it, that it's much cheaper than home, that they don't care etc. But the girls soak it up and then move on. But they will be replaced, until the economy reaches a level where they no longer need to fuck for money, then supply will decline.
This is not the same as saying foriegners push the price of sex up. I am not arguing that.
That's mostly going to be ok. It can get a little isolated during the medium part of that trip after the metro crowds and car traffic thin out and before you get to the sports complex entrances and stores nearer Energy. Stay alert and move away from anybody who tries to get close if no one else is around.
I was actually planning to walk from the metro Estadio station to Energy spa later this week during a late morning. Would you suggest not to?
I would not suggest against it as I still walk and the distance I covered is long, think 6 metro stops. It's better that you memorize the route. I think one advantage I had and was able to escape most of the times because I don't need map and can concentrate on walking so I was able to see danger in time. It's a probability so there is a random element in it. You will be fine for many years until you are not.The Energy spa that I know is closest to the Estadio stop. Not sure if there is something else with the same name that you are thinking is 6 metro stops away?
Girls are always moving on from the business, always have. But perhaps this is a time where it is accelerating a bit, and it seems to me it could be the case that it is a cost of living versus the payday from prostitution that has changed at the margin. Same thing happened in Costa Rica, where the 40 to 60 dollars the guys paid in 2005 went a lot further than the 80 to 100 they are paying now. The cost of living has probably tripled in that time in CR, the value of the US dollar went up and now down drastically relative to the colon, and overall it is not the jackpot for the girls like it once was. So they are more inclined to move on. And getting some education and setting up for a real future is certainly a better option for many than trying to still make a living in your 40's from this business. So it is probably the smart ones that are moving on. In Medellin especially once you get into the 30's it is an uphill battle to do well in this industry. The smart ones know that and start moving into a better career by the time they hit around 25.Coincidentally, the girl that with big tits that I'm talking about left when she turned 25 last year LOL that's why I don't see a lot of girls past 25 and quality seems to drop off unless they are in las isla.
Side note: I'm in Medellin right and I have to mandatory leave by the 28th and the earlier the better. I was thinking the 18th but I came here for my girl with big tits but when I got here she told me she left. And then I stumble upon a girl in mileroticos that looks just like her and has bigger tits in Bogota and I'm like damn I should stayed. I haven't found any girl with tits here. I did my usual 2 cam girls I know bareback but they are skinny with ass. I also found another can girl I used to see 3 years ago but disappeared on mileroticos. Was a surprise seeing her. He has a bunch of tattoos. One of the prettiest faces I've ever seen is tiny and has ass. But not this anywhere to speak of so I'm definitely considering just going to La isla for the first time since getting to Medellin and hoping for the best and then just going to Bogota right after for like 3 days and getting my fill of that girl I saw with big tits before saying good bye to Colombia for the foreseeable and slaving away in the US overemployed unless I can find a way to sneak my way back here.
I was actually planning to walk from the metro Estadio station to Energy spa later this week during a late morning. Would you suggest not to?I've walked that area quite a bit. I'm an old dude in my 70's. I haven't seen any indication of danger. There's usually many people walking around there.
IMO its mainly caused by comsumer demand. Foreigners come in to the scene and start paying higher rates than the locals. Some girls suddenly get richer and are enabled to move on. It happened in all major sex tourism destinations that I know of. Medellin is no different. Guys come along and pay COP 200.000 (and often more) for a session, arguing that they can afford it, that it's much cheaper than home, that they don't care etc. But the girls soak it up and then move on. But they will be replaced, until the economy reaches a level where they no longer need to fuck for money, then supply will decline.
This is not the same as saying foriegners push the price of sex up. I am not arguing that.Supply and demand is fucked right now in Medellin at least online. Hopefully I make enough money so that I can get whoever I want off of Instagram when I come back. Honestly isn't that just every man's dream? Make enough money so that you never have to worry about sex anymore.
The Energy spa that I know is closest to the Estadio stop. Not sure if there is something else with the same name that you are thinking is 6 metro stops away?I mean I take more risk by walking longer distance, and 6 metro stops is easy for me. The shorter distance from metro to Energy spa will have less risk. What I encountered were not someone there waiting for me. I just crossed paths with the wrong people. If you are trying to find bad people in these places, you probably won't find them. LOL. I was in Medellin for several months and it only occurred for the one week period during the end of that stay. If I have left a few weeks earlier, none of these would have happened.
Supply and demand is fucked right now in Medellin at least online. .It's hard to say it is fucked. It is a very inefficient market for both sides. You already see that the men aren't sharing. LOL. I experienced it firsthand. I saw girls that should be popular and can charge an arm and a leg based on what I read here but they don't know how things work so they don't have many customers and that keep the price low as long as they are not being shared. Hehe. That is the other side of the coin.
You spend so much time here. You should use that to your advantage to get much better price. But this does not mean you spend less. You are going to spend much more on sex than people that come for a week or two but your CPF/CPN will be lower. The girl will earn more even though they charge less.
La Piscina Swingers Club is closed; seems to be for good. I went there today (Wednesday) around 10:00 pm and the guy at the restaurant next door said it is gone out of business.
Title. Went to La isla. 50 k cover. What's new is that it's 100 k cover women. I'm assuming usual 550 k for 45 minutes for girl. Saw all new faces. But talent was lack luster unless it's just me whose standards are high. I came look for a girl with spectacular tits. Didn't find her. They lied to me when they said that Wednesdays are lit. All the girls were girls you would see at lleras or online. Skinny some pretty faces some operated chests and booties *shrugs* I've seen it all except a pair of nice natural tits. Maybe tomorrow will be better.
Tried calling a girl twice from las nenas Bogota agency. The girl flaked twice. Tried calling a cam girl who now works for eroticas Bogota. She recognized my name and told the promoter that she didn't want to come. She not that pretty anyway. Has above average face is pale but has nothing else like flat all over I was thinking about tricking the Promototer by going to a hotel in poblado and chasing my name but I'm like not worth the hassle just want to say Hi to her she's not worth the hassle.
Tried calling a girl I met in Santo Domingo who lives in Medellin. Flaked like usual. I don't think she works in Medellin she's just making an exception for me.
Looks like I won't find the girls with tits that I want before I leave to the us slave plantation so I guess I'm going to book it to Bogota to get that girl I found.
Safe to say I left empty handed everywhere I tried today.
DonCarlos1234
05-16-24, 10:30
Coincidentally, the girl that with big tits that I'm talking about left when she turned 25 last year LOL that's why I don't see a lot of girls past 25 and quality seems to drop off unless they are in las isla.
Side note: I'm in Medellin right and I have to mandatory leave by the 28th and the earlier the better. I was thinking the 18th but I came here for my girl with big tits but when I got here she told me she left. And then I stumble upon a girl in mileroticos that looks just like her and has bigger tits in Bogota and I'm like damn I should stayed. I haven't found any girl with tits here. I did my usual 2 cam girls I know bareback but they are skinny with ass. I also found another can girl I used to see 3 years ago but disappeared on mileroticos. Was a surprise seeing her. He has a bunch of tattoos. One of the prettiest faces I've ever seen is tiny and has ass. But not this anywhere to speak of so I'm definitely considering just going to La isla for the first time since getting to Medellin and hoping for the best and then just going to Bogota right after for like 3 days and getting my fill of that girl I saw with big tits before saying good bye to Colombia for the foreseeable and slaving away in the US overemployed unless I can find a way to sneak my way back here.I have gone thru a few to find those diamonds. Pm ya.
Exoticspirit
05-16-24, 12:29
I mean I take more risk by walking longer distance, and 6 metro stops is easy for me. The shorter distance from metro to Energy spa will have less risk. What I encountered were not someone there waiting for me. I just crossed paths with the wrong people. If you are trying to find bad people in these places, you probably won't find them. LOL. I was in Medellin for several months and it only occurred for the one week period during the end of that stay. If I have left a few weeks earlier, none of these would have happened.Why would you choose to walk a longer route?
Hunglow1625
05-16-24, 13:58
I've been using Cookunity here in the states and I love it! Meals for a week come fresh on ice delivered to your door. Just Microwave. There are many out there these days. HelloFrsh, FreshMart etc.
I wonder if there are similar servces in Medellin,anyone? Thanks.
This is my third day here and rain is really putting a damper on fun. Went to Centro yesterday when it was a bit clear sky but as soon as the rain started, everything was just deserted. Luckily, found a good spot at a bar out of rain and enjoyed a few beers while waiting for rain to clear. Went to New Life and Energy but talent was low there too. I haven't tried Poblado yet; hoping, rain doesn't ruin that too.
This is my third day here and rain is really putting a damper on fun. Went to Centro yesterday when it was a bit clear sky but as soon as the rain started, everything was just deserted. Luckily, found a good spot at a bar out of rain and enjoyed a few beers while waiting for rain to clear. Went to New Life and Energy but talent was low there too. I haven't tried Poblado yet; hoping, rain doesn't ruin that too.I remember in the past the rain did not ruin the fun. Usually all the girls would be huddled up inside of the entrance to the hotels and the stairways especially in Botero Real and Zona Rosa. Just go looking in all the doorways of the hoteles and ye shall find.
Triple Darknes
05-16-24, 20:29
Generally speaking one of the worst times to come to Colombia is Mid April through Mid May that's the rainy period.
Not saying you can't have fun but if you love hitting the Park or Centro looking at hoes that activity is curtailed during this time.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
The rain generally begins between 2 PM and 4 PM and it can last up to 12 hours or more. Usually it clears up by 8 PM to 9 PM then resumes in the very early morning until the midday sun begins to push it out. I agree it can eat up a lot of precous time if you are here for only a few days at a time.
Generally speaking one of the worst times to come to Colombia is Mid April through Mid May that's the rainy period.
Not saying you can't have fun but if you love hitting the Park or Centro looking at hoes that activity is curtailed during this time.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.
Generally speaking one of the worst times to come to Colombia is Mid April through Mid May that's the rainy period.
Not saying you can't have fun but if you love hitting the Park or Centro looking at hoes that activity is curtailed during this time.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.Schedule was working out so it had to be this time for me. But, now, I know why the flight was so reasonable. The flight was still completely packed and I was offered money to take the next flight but I wasn't going to spend a day at the Miami airport just waiting to have fun. One of my fun things to do in Medellin is to walk and just enjoy the local ambiance; that sure has been canceled. What is surprising is that none of the weather apps I have downloaded predicts the rain accurately; I am having tons of beer and coffee waiting for rain to lighten up.
Exoticspirit
05-17-24, 03:20
Generally speaking one of the worst times to come to Colombia is Mid April through Mid May that's the rainy period.
Not saying you can't have fun but if you love hitting the Park or Centro looking at hoes that activity is curtailed during this time.
Hope this Helps.
Trip.Just arrived today in rush hour drizzle. Will make the most of it.
Why would you choose to walk a longer route?https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/walking-for-good-health
And it's a great way to meet people, some of whom will be hookers.
DonCarlos1234
05-18-24, 08:08
I have been to Comuna 13, Guatape, etc. Before. I want to revisit and I figure it's more fun traveling with a hot girlfriend for a week then going searching for new ones. What kind of evil looks will we be getting and will she get hit on or be uncomfortable dealing with jealousy from fellow Colombians. On the plane, out walking around Laureless. On tours. It's also her birthday. I remember even in the USA my X would get upset by the gawkers. I guess it's a problem they have to deal with. I am 3 X her age. LOL we'll stay at an airbnb for week or so. God bless Colombia.
JimmyStreets
05-18-24, 17:33
I have been to Comuna 13, Guatape, etc. Before. I want to revisit and I figure it's more fun traveling with a hot girlfriend for a week then going searching for new ones. What kind of evil looks will we be getting and will she get hit on or be uncomfortable dealing with jealousy from fellow Colombians. On the plane, out walking around Laureless. On tours. It's also her birthday. I remember even in the USA my X would get upset by the gawkers. I guess it's a problem they have to deal with. I am 3 X her age. LOL we'll stay at an airbnb for week or so. God bless Colombia.Colombians are natural Gossip Queens about all issues. They gossip and dramatize about everyone and anything. It's their culture.
Right now with all the drama in MDE all Gringos are evil. Walking with a girl or solo. They are conditioned to hate gringos.
Remember they are chickens of course and will never say anything to you. Just enjoy yourself don't worry about these Paisas.
Mojo Bandit
05-20-24, 02:10
I've been using Cookunity here in the states and I love it! Meals for a week come fresh on ice delivered to your door. Just Microwave. There are many out there these days. HelloFrsh, FreshMart etc.
I wonder if there are similar servces in Medellin,anyone? Thanks.The question more suited for this forum is can you get pussy delivered and of course the answer is yes. Either from one of the bait and switch prepago websites. Or the BHOS (Brings Her Own Scopolamine) Instagram chicas but nothing beats a good FB list.
But since you don't seem to be able to Google "meal prep services in Medellin Colombia" I will take pity on you and show you what I found when I did just that:
ComidaFit by Chef Nathaly Ascencio.
https://comidafit.com.co/
Also found during that search is this article by Casacol. Who will also gladly rent you a Gringo nice and Gringo priced apartment. This article includes some food prep serivces and other food deliver (Rappi is the best):
https://en.casacol.co/2022/04/29/top-food-delivery-apps-medellin/
I just returned from 4 days in Medellin. Everything posted about the Mayor's attempt to scare men seeking underaged girls is true. The airport, street signs and billboards threaten men seeking underaged girls. Of course, the one man accused of having 2 underaged girls in his hotel room, and not caught in the act of doing anything illegal, quickly fled the country when released from jail the next day and the police are looking very stupid, so the Mayor is trying to appease his voters that he now is protecting their young daughters.
Parque Lleras now has several barricades with police check points, costing the city much money to man, and the cops are checking IDs of everyone for age, nothing else, maybe to show a presence and intimidate, but a total waste of police resources since the ONE individual accused of inappropriate conduct has left the city many weeks ago. Bars are open again, after being shut down for a week or so, then gradually opened again with limited hours, now back to full hours.
Thursday about 9 pm, I walked around the park. Saw many solid 8's, 9's but also many fatties, tattoo freaks, fuglies. The going rate quoted was 250 mil pesos. Many attractive women are asking 350 mil pesos now. One very fine solid 9 was asking 400 mil pesos. Beware, though, they are all sneaky, experienced, lying hardened prostitutes. You will negotiate a price, then when you get the girl back in your room they will try to underperform and then get the full pay. I just walked around and looked at the girls. Many were tired, appeared robotic, only doing a job and not very personable or interested in me, only in money.
Saturday about 9 pm I walked around and found a cute, slim 19-year-old Vene by Gustos in the park. I bought her food and a beverage and talked, got to know her slightly. She wanted 350 mil pesos and was in top shape, so we discussed the details, and we had a deal. Everything was specifically negotiated in fine detail. I specifically asked if she was affectionate and kissing in the room; BJ with condom only was her demand. Of course, we got to my hotel room, and she started to cough, claimed she had a cold, so she did not want to kiss. Her first step in my room was to the mini-frig to see what she could take, fortunately it was empty! LOL. Then she wanted to use her phone on the hotel's wi-fi and I did not know the code. I got her to remove her clothes, which was a challenge. She really did very little except play with my Willie very roughly and ask if I made leche yet. (came). Before the BJ she said she wanted 400 mil if she gave a covered BJ and I said "no". And the BJ was only about one inch in her mouth with a condom. She complained constantly, though she had a great body. Did not want me to lick or play with her boobs, they were firm and attractive. I was able to DATY a couple of times and penetrate her mish about an inch before she whined that it hurt her! She said it was her first time, which I could not believe, especially since she went right to my mini-frig in the room. Every time I tried to penetrate her, she pushed me away with her legs like a wrestling match. I said let's do doggie, and she wanted to be in control, being difficult. At that point I had had enough. She was not affectionate, no kissing, Mr. Happy was not keeping his erection and I was pissed! I slapped her ass and said she was sad, poor in bed, said I was frustrated, and I wanted her to leave, and I would not pay her 350 mil. And I meant it. And I raised my voice, I was done trying to be a gentleman and she was a lazy liar pretending to be sick, a virgin, in pain, etc. I was fed up with her and wanted her out!
She got dressed and never made eye contact with me. I gave her 200 K and she called a taxi, I told her to wait outside. Glad to get rid of her. And I jerked off after she left, which brought me more pleasure than she did! End of reality for that night. And if you find a street wise, rough girl like her I hope you do the same!
I spent a week there. I cannot speak Spanish (I may have learned 20 words after this trip). Safety and comfort were first, and cost was second. I stuck to these three venues.
La Isla Club.
50 K cover. Drinks are 50 K. Girls are 600 K plus 50 K Tips. Way too many bros are making it rain using 2 peso notes.
Fase II.
20 K to 50 K cover. Drinks are 40 K. Girls are 400 K plus 50 K Tip.
Loutron.
No cover if you select a girl. 600 K + 50 K Tip. Loutron had the best-looking girls in a relaxed environment, so this is where I was almost every day. Best to go around 6 PM.
Yes, I was paying above-average prices, but still, 1/5 of what I will spend in LA for the same quality.
Do I create a fake FB account and add girls from Instagram?
JackTaggart
05-20-24, 03:33
The question more suited for this forum is can you get pussy delivered and of course the answer is yes. Either from one of the bait and switch prepago websites. Or the BHOS (Brings Her Own Scopolamine) Instagram chicas but nothing beats a good FB list.
But since you don't seem to be able to Google "meal prep services in Medellin Colombia" I will take pity on you and show you what I found when I did just that:
ComidaFit by Chef Nathaly Ascencio.
https://comidafit.com.co/
Also found during that search is this article by Casacol. Who will also gladly rent you a Gringo nice and Gringo priced apartment. This article includes some food prep serivces and other food deliver (Rappi is the best):
https://en.casacol.co/2022/04/29/top-food-delivery-apps-medellin/I've recently been asking the girls I'm seeing if they can cook. It might be part of the criteria to graduate to meeting at my apartment rather than a love motel. I enjoy a home cooked meal. Pussy and meal prep delivery.
......Loutron.
No cover if you select a girl. 600 K + 50 K Tip......Did your taxi find the place easily? I've had problems with taxis finding the location.
JimmyStreets
05-20-24, 16:10
I spent a week there. I cannot speak Spanish (I may have learned 20 words after this trip). Safety and comfort were first, and cost was second. I stuck to these three venues.
La Isla Club.
50 K cover. Drinks are 50 K. Girls are 600 K plus 50 K Tips. Way too many bros are making it rain using 2 peso notes.
Fase II.
20 K to 50 K cover. Drinks are 40 K. Girls are 400 K plus 50 K Tip.
Loutron.
No cover if you select a girl. 600 K + 50 K Tip. Loutron had the best-looking girls in a relaxed environment, so this is where I was almost every day. Best to go around 6 PM.
Yes, I was paying above-average prices, but still, 1/5 of what I will spend in LA for the same quality.Great justification inflating the market for the rest of us. Can you go to Costa Rica instead and pay silly prices? Typical Cali person.
John Gault
05-20-24, 16:41
I see prices asked at 400 k plus 50 K tip also 600 k plus 50 K tip. Is not that big price enough? When I go to a Casa and the price is 60 K I do give a small tip as hey have to give a good portion to the house. They seem to want to include the tip in the price. All loco to me.
Mr Enternational
05-20-24, 17:00
I see prices asked at 400 k plus 50 K tip also 600 k plus 50 K tip. Is not that big price enough? When I go to a Casa and the price is 60 K I do give a small tip as hey have to give a good portion to the house. They seem to want to include the tip in the price. All loco to me.It is never enough. These smart, ambitious women have no choice but to do this in order to feed their sweet, illegitimate kids. The more that is paid, the faster they can get away from this horrible life and open a lucrative, honest business. Nobody should be forced into this type of work in order to make ends meet. Have a heart.
Great justification inflating the market for the rest of us. Can you go to Costa Rica instead and pay silly prices? Typical Cali person.This site is to post information; I did not set the price; I paid whatever the market price is; if you can't afford what is being offered, go somewhere else.
Did your taxi find the place easily? I've had problems with taxis finding the location.I used Uber, and it was accurate every time.
This is why I love Loutron, guarantied service on what is promised. If the service is bad, complain and you get another girl.
I just returned from 4 days in Medellin. Everything posted about the Mayor's attempt to scare men seeking underaged girls is true. The airport, street signs and billboards threaten men seeking underaged girls. Of course, the one man accused of having 2 underaged girls in his hotel room, and not caught in the act of doing anything illegal, quickly fled the country when released from jail the next day and the police are looking very stupid, so the Mayor is trying to appease his voters that he now is protecting their young daughters.
Parque Lleras now has several barricades with police check points, costing the city much money to man, and the cops are checking IDs of everyone for age, nothing else, maybe to show a presence and intimidate, but a total waste of police resources since the ONE individual accused of inappropriate conduct has left the city many weeks ago. Bars are open again, after being shut down for a week or so, then gradually opened again with limited hours, now back to full hours.
Thursday about 9 pm, I walked around the park. Saw many solid 8's, 9's but also many fatties, tattoo freaks, fuglies. The going rate quoted was 250 mil pesos. Many attractive women are asking 350 mil pesos now. One very fine solid 9 was asking 400 mil pesos. Beware, though, they are all sneaky, experienced, lying hardened prostitutes. You will negotiate a price, then when you get the girl back in your room they will try to underperform and then get the full pay. I just walked around and looked at the girls. Many were tired, appeared robotic, only doing a job and not very personable or interested in me, only in money.
I see prices asked at 400 k plus 50 K tip also 600 k plus 50 K tip. Is not that big price enough? There are at least 2 market places that members here use -.
Local market. Those that pay the regular high street prices (think of it as shopping at the places that local people shop at), and.
Tourist market. Those that pay tourist prices (think of it as shopping at a mall which is only open to tourists and that charges 4 times the local price).
Facebook, La Isla, Fase 2, Loutron, Insta, Desperately Seeking are all part of the tourist market. Vendors here will charge what they can, I. E. What the tourist is willing to pay.
The convenience and quality factor in the tourist market is worth the high price. If you can not speak Spanish, want girls who can speak some English, and are 8 to 10 in looks, then be ready to pay.
There are at least 2 market places that members here use -.
Local market. Those that pay the regular high street prices (think of it as shopping at the places that local people shop at), and.
Tourist market. Those that pay tourist prices (think of it as shopping at a mall which is only open to tourists and that charges 4 times the local price).
Facebook, La Isla, Fase 2, Loutron, Insta, Desperately Seeking are all part of the tourist market. Vendors here will charge what they can, I. E. What the tourist is willing to pay.
LoveItHere69
05-21-24, 10:57
It is never enough. These smart, ambitious women have no choice but to do this in order to feed their sweet, illegitimate kids. The more that is paid, the faster they can get away from this horrible life and open a lucrative, honest business. Nobody should be forced into this type of work in order to make ends meet. Have a heart.Hilarious! You always brag about paying the same price you paid 10 years ago, getting freebies, etc. Here is your post in Pattaya, Thailand #42319 a few days ago about yourself.
"he not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me."
Practice what you preach! Where is your heart? You are supposedly paying this girl ST prices for LT. In addition, your picture shows nothing. No body shape or face. Stupid pictures. You are not half the man you think you are.
Facebook, La Isla, Fase 2, Loutron, Insta, Desperately Seeking are all part of the tourist market. Vendors here will charge what they can, I. E. What the tourist is willing to pay.Some girls have dual pricing. I went to Park Lleras with my wingman master after dinner in Provenza. The master thought it was a great training ground for me. LOL. As usual the police did not check the master's ID but checked mine.
For this night, Lleras felt as if I were in El Centro. I like one slender girl with a bubble butt so the master instructed me to ask the number as a training. Haha. I messaged her later and I told the master the offer I had which is all covered sex. My master taught me that was tourist package and told me what to do. I ended up with a non-tourist package with almost no restrictions from my perspective for a few hours at a lower price. She just left, and surprisingly she went straight home. She is barely over 18 but looked much older. I was attracted by her smile and now knowing her age, I can see the youth in it. In this case, I think my price per minute is lower than El Centro, even cost per nut maybe cheaper, and it is delivered to me at the comfort of my apartment without any actual time restriction.
Once in my place, it was like we were old friends, non-stop kissing that reminded me of Brazilian. Before we went to shower, she asked for money upfront. I paid, then I stood there expecting a change of behavior, but nothing changed. In the shower, she positioned herself so that I shielded her from the shower and proceeded to give me a BBBJ It felt good so I decided to blow my first load in her mouth, and she swallowed it. She continued to suck but I was too sensitive at that point. She knew it and slowed down. There is gold in Park lleras. LOL.
I had a green eye paisa I wrote about before. Her asking price was high but she eventually agree to my offer. I just told her she was wasting time by non-stop bargaining everything when she could have made much more already if she agreed to my offer. Now she also does everything. It basically went from like 1/2 tourist package to full non-tourist package. I paid her friend the same price I paid her regardless the amount her friend charges others. I like this girl because she listens to feedback and is more honest than others.
Also just an observation, once you know the girl well enough, you can tell if the girl has many customers or not based on her availability and if she has money or not. These girls will come without money to pay for taxi, and that tells me she did not have work. Sometimes I can also guess that I may be the only customer for that period based on observation. It's not 100% but pretty close. Facebook in general is not very efficient so they don't necessary get much business.
It is never enough. These smart, ambitious women have no choice but to do this in order to feed their sweet, illegitimate kids. The more that is paid, the faster they can get away from this horrible life and open a lucrative, honest business. Nobody should be forced into this type of work in order to make ends meet. Have a heart.Gees, are you for real? These women have many other choices to get an education or to work, like we all do, and their illegitimate kids are not "sweet" they cry and whine like all kids do. This is not a horrible life, they make much better faster money, nor are they "forced" to make ends meet. With your number of posts you should know better than to feel sorry for them! Its a free markets and Colombia outlaws pimps. They do this of their own volition.
Mr Enternational
05-21-24, 13:31
I messaged her later and I told the master the offer I had which is all covered sex. My master taught me that was tourist package and told me what to do. I ended up with a non-tourist package with almost no restrictions from my perspective for a few hours at a lower price.
Once in my place, it was like we were old friends, non-stop kissing that reminded me of Brazilian.
,
I had a green eye paisa I wrote about before. Her asking price was high but she eventually agree to my offer. I just told her she was wasting time by non-stop bargaining everything when she could have made much more already if she agreed to my offer. Now she also does everything. It basically went from like 1/2 tourist package to full non-tourist package. I paid her friend the same price I paid her regardless the amount her friend charges others. I like this girl because she listens to feedback and is more honest than others.For some reason guys will make every excuse to not go for the non-tourist package. It seems they make a lot of assumptions having never even tried. I can see if they gave examples of one time I tried to get the non-tourist package and this negative thing happened. But no. They are all insistent that negative things come along with the tourist package when in actuality that is not the case. Never in one instance after bargaining for the non-tourist package have I said if I would have just paid more like the girl wanted originally, then I would have had a better experience.
Hell, sometimes even the chicks wonder why guys pay so much!
I would guess it's still possible to negotiate even with the more attractive ladies, but I couldn't be bothered, nor did I want the negative emotions. I'd rather focus on getting best quality in that price range, and I'd pay extra if the performance was really good. I had one hot girl who I tipped just over 500 THB ask me "why are you giving me so much money?" with a totally puzzled look on her face. She was 22, the experience was spectacular, and I really wanted her to come back, she did!
For some reason guys will make every excuse to not go for the non-tourist package. It seems they make a lot of assumptions having never even tried. I can see if they gave examples of one time I tried to get the non-tourist package and this negative thing happened. But no. They are all insistent that negative things come along with the tourist package when in actuality that is not the case. Never in one instance after bargaining for the non-tourist package have I said if I would have just paid more like the girl wanted originally, then I would have had a better experience.
Hell, sometimes even the chicks wonder why guys pay so much!There is a lot of concern about what others pay. I don't really pay attention to what other guys pay. I just pay what I think is fair for the girl that I am interested in. If others pay her less, so be it. If others pay her more, so be it.
Now, I know that guys want some general agreement where all guys agree to pay a certain amount and we all hold the line but that is a fantasy. There are too many guys and ISG guys are just a small part of the totality of mongers visiting Colombia. It will never happen.
Pay what you want and don't worry about what others think. If you think the price is fair, that is all that matters.
World Travel 69
05-21-24, 19:33
I am not sure if it is still there.
Let Us Know, please.
Dulce Compania, Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 57-55.10-15 Chicas. Prices: 40 k 30 min. 50 k 40 min. 60 k hour. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10 am to 8 pm, Sundays 10 am to 4 pm. Tel: 254 57 36, Cell: 311 761 36 75.
What's the specific address? I can't find it on worldtraveler69's map.
Casa No Va
05-21-24, 19:44
I see a lot of people saying what prices are too High to be quoted in lleras.
But not a lot of info on what amount newbies should be countering with or what price point to stick to depending on diferent venues.
Seems like one poster was speaking about club prices. Are those not usually set by the establishment. Or just the exit fee.
What are seasoned mongers paying in lleras short time compared to TLN. Also adicionales always plays a factor.
Seen mostly the prices that should be expected and quoted in Centro but not much on Lleras in todays market or clubs where girls set their own prices.
Thanks for the schooling guys.
Thank you for an honest post and pricing updates. PM me so we can chat on how to get a list of FB girls. Takes a bit of time and not that hard. Also see reports of distinction.
I spent a week there. I cannot speak Spanish (I may have learned 20 words after this trip). Safety and comfort were first, and cost was second. I stuck to these three venues.
La Isla Club.
50 K cover. Drinks are 50 K. Girls are 600 K plus 50 K Tips. Way too many bros are making it rain using 2 peso notes.
Fase II.
20 K to 50 K cover. Drinks are 40 K. Girls are 400 K plus 50 K Tip.
Loutron.
No cover if you select a girl. 600 K + 50 K Tip. Loutron had the best-looking girls in a relaxed environment, so this is where I was almost every day. Best to go around 6 PM.
Yes, I was paying above-average prices, but still, 1/5 of what I will spend in LA for the same quality.
I can't find flights on LATAM from Miami to Medellin in July. I searched the Internet and I could not find any information or any cancellation announcement. Does anyone connected to airline business have any knowledge?
And on the topic of Airlines, I wonder why Delta does not fly to MDE from Atlanta I think that would be a good market.
I spent a week there. I cannot speak Spanish (I may have learned 20 words after this trip). Safety and comfort were first, and cost was second. I stuck to these three venues.
La Isla Club.
50 K cover. Drinks are 50 K. Girls are 600 K plus 50 K Tips. Way too many bros are making it rain using 2 peso notes.
Fase II.
20 K to 50 K cover. Drinks are 40 K. Girls are 400 K plus 50 K Tip.
Loutron.
No cover if you select a girl. 600 K + 50 K Tip. Loutron had the best-looking girls in a relaxed environment, so this is where I was almost every day. Best to go around 6 PM.
Yes, I was paying above-average prices, but still, 1/5 of what I will spend in LA for the same quality.Cover means barfine I assume. Are the listed prices (400 k or 600 k respectively) shorttime / 1 hour all included or full night?
QualitySmut
05-22-24, 00:22
Any recommendations where in Medellin I can see this. I don't like la isla way to expensive. Any massage joints or brothels that have girls that offer dance shows. I can find some of this stuff on my own but I was hoping for reccomendations so I don't have to go searching blind.
Hilarious! You always brag about paying the same price you paid 10 years ago, getting freebies, etc. Here is your post in Pattaya, Thailand #42319 a few days ago about yourself.
"he not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me."
Practice what you preach! Where is your heart? You are supposedly paying this girl ST prices for LT. In addition, your picture shows nothing. No body shape or face. Stupid pictures. You are not half the man you think you are.I am pretty sure he was just trolling. This is a monger forum.
Now I wouldn't want to "exploit" a working girl but in my humble opinion most of these girls are just spoilt brats that are too lazy or influenced by social media and want to punch above their "class" / upbringing (nothing wrong with wanting more from life) and they choose the easiest way to attempt this, spreading their legs. End of story.
I am not denying that there will very likely be guys pimping out girls or taking advantage of girls and whatnot but unless I really see a girl getting exploited I will always try to think of me and my wallet first. And the girl second.
I always treat them nicely. And if the girl provides good service I also tip or pay for drinks / food. But man I will not let a hoe take advantage of me (at least I will try not to xD).
Cover means barfine I assume. Are the listed prices (400 k or 600 k respectively) shorttime / 1 hour all included or full night?Nope. Cover charge is the charge to enter. Like a cover charge. Barfine is not a term used in Colombia, but I know what you mean and I don't think it is that common. Perhaps in some of the strip clubs. Not sure.
And those charges would be the onsite charges. Not all night and not leaving the club. And presuming they are an hour more or less.
Great justification inflating the market for the rest of us. Can you go to Costa Rica instead and pay silly prices? Typical Cali person.We live in a free market economy of price and demand. If you want to pay less, you can, you may get killed or catch a STD.
Cover means bar fine, I assume. Are the listed prices (400k or 600k respectively) short time / 1 hour all included or full night?The cover is the price you pay to enter the Strip Bar.
If you take the girl to the rooms next / above the bar, you only pay the girl's fee (400 or 600 K). There must be some arrangement where the girl gets part of it.
For good service, you should give a 10% Tip to the girl.
If you want to take the girl to your hotel, you pay a bar fine—I do not know how much as I have never tried it.
If price is an issue, go to the bars in Centro. One night, a friend and I got drunk and ended up at a strip bar in a bad part of town where the girls were charging 100 K. Looking back what we did was stupid, don't try it.
Mojo Bandit
05-22-24, 04:01
Do I create a fake FB account and add girls from Instagram?Nounce has always done a beautiful job of looking out for the guys who do not RTFF. But to be fair the hieght of the FB days are probably behind us for most people but some of us are always going to be cruising FB for the new young fresh looking flaca -.
If you want to learn you will have to do your home work and your first assignement is to go to this link to the Reports of Distiction thread and scroll down to find post #210 and post #212 - the one that says Facebook and the other says Facebook for newbies.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2016-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction/page2
I can't find flights on LATAM from Miami to Medellin in July. I searched the Internet and I could not find any information or any cancellation announcement. Does anyone connected to airline business have any knowledge?
And on the topic of Airlines, I wonder why Delta does not fly to MDE from Atlanta I think that would be a good market.Avianca flies that route. Avianca and LATAM code share.
Speaking about flights, I want to rant! Why the hell did Avianca eliminate the direct LAX to Bogota route. The clerk said something about a rumour of Avianca not being able to get a license; that doesn't make sense. What was once a 6.5 hour direct flight is now a 10 hour flight with a layover in El Salvador.
JackTaggart
05-22-24, 07:13
The cover is the price you pay to enter the Strip Bar.
If you take the girl to the rooms next / above the bar, you only pay the girl's fee (400 or 600 K). There must be some arrangement where the girl gets part of it.
For good service, you should give a 10% Tip to the girl.
If you want to take the girl to your hotel, you pay a bar fineI do not know how much as I have never tried it.
If price is an issue, go to the bars in Centro. One night, a friend and I got drunk and ended up at a strip bar in a bad part of town where the girls were charging 100 K. Looking back what we did was stupid, don't try it.I'm not sure how you define the bad part of town. But at a strip club 2 blocks from the nutty (and thus 2 streets from Centro) it was 80 mil for Medio with bbj. 100 mil for BBFS. It was the one where you enter the rooms through the dj booth. It's near Centro. But when I hear "bad area of town" I think a place you are going to get robbed and assaulted .2 blocks from the nutty is a fully lite street and a busy street isn't a bad part of town.
Now should you be walking actually in Centro at that hour. No. But that's not where the strip club is. I'm too gringo to know what the bad part of town is.
This was 45 days ago.
JackTaggart
05-22-24, 07:50
The convenience and quality factor in the tourist market is worth the high price. If you can not speak Spanish, want girls who can speak some English, and are 8 to 10 in looks, then be ready to pay.Maybe it seems like I am picking on you because I'm responding to two of your posts back to back. But I'm just catching up.
Not true in Medellin or Bogota. My Spanish is beyond horrible and I'm finding girls that speak English. Now granted it's more Bogota than Medellin. But it's really not true that you have to pay a huge premium. I don't say that to be cheap. But paying more doesn't result in a better experience. I've paid all ranges. I'm typically paying 200 mil for spinner university girl 18 to 21 for 2 to 3 hours+ BBFS.
I am pretty experienced at this point. But back when I was not and just using seeking that was my experience too. Girls that charged a lot tended to have GPS and the experience just was not as good.
And I'm in no way shape or form directing this at you. I don't know you. But I think age, personality, weight. Etc CAN play a factor. Money is an easy substitute for some. Or luck maybe. And people that go after surgery Instagram models / pros will have to pay more. Because the market for some reason puts a premium on that. But I think the different factors that go into this are things that every guy should have a realistic sense of where they fall and I think that can translate into price.
I don't take issue with people paying more. But it's just not true that it's automatic that you have to. And I make this response to provide a little more context for other guys. Because it's not the same for everyone.
I'm not sure how you define the bad part of town. It's near Centro. But when I hear "bad area of town" I think a place you are going to get robbed and assaulted .2 blocks from the nutty is a fully lite street and a busy street isn't a bad part of town.
Now should you be walking actually in Centro at that hour. No. But that's not where the strip club is. I'm too gringo to know what the bad part of town is.
I think the worst part in Centro is The Bronx, or El Bron, as they tend to say. Its Calle 56 con Cra 54. Just a few blocks behind Nuti. You'd get some real good discounts down there.
Anyone been affected by this list they are compiling of sex tourists? https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/lista-negra-de-turistas-problematicos-medellin-OC24511197.
Anyone been affected by this list they are compiling of sex tourists? https://www.elcolombiano.com/medellin/lista-negra-de-turistas-problematicos-medellin-OC24511197.No. I was in Medellin last week and had no problem entering through airport immigration, however I am in my late 60's. I did notice many younger males in line and they slowed down the process quite a bit. The young, single males in line were getting questioned much more at the front booth and this made it much longer to get through. Heck, 75% of the non-Colombian airline passengers were young men 20-30, probably sex tourists!
Sadly, this mayor is hurting his own businesses and using one or two examples of underaged girls to blast his political agenda. There will always be a case or two. Here the Mayor's own police were at fault for releasing the American suspect from jail the next day because he was "not caught in the act" of doing anything illegal to the 2 underaged girls found in his hotel room, and the suspect promptly left the country. It makes no sense to punish his own businesses, by requiring they close early for 2 weeks, and pay his police officers overtime to set up ID checks in the Parque Lleras area. He is simply trying to get re-elected as a protector of the Medellin families. Political stunts.
TheDerilious
05-22-24, 14:56
Now I wouldn't want to "exploit" a working girl but in my humble opinion most of these girls are just spoilt brats that are too lazy or influenced by social media and want to punch above their "class" / upbringing (nothing wrong with wanting more from life) and they choose the easiest way to attempt this, spreading their legs. End of story.
That is very rarely, if ever, the case for girls going into this business. It may be a reason they stay in the business after getting accustomed to it, but no woman is brought up to want to be (as you so eloquently called them) a "hoe. " The majority of women are doing this because they are very poor and have no other real options. A place like Columbia doesn't have a vibrant social advancement platform and it is much harder to improve your situation with a lot of the barriers in the way. Abuse, at a young age, is rampant in the sex work community as well, either from family or friends and at the emotional or sexual level.
As countries advance, there are more and more women who do sex work to just make some spare cash in college, but Columbia is not that place. It's why so many mongers in the west complain about the prices of women here because those women have minimum wage options and are doing sex work to avoid that. We go to places like Thailand and Columbia to use arbitrage and pay poorer girls for their service.
There is no need to hide from that truth. As long as we pay a fair wage and treat the girls nicely, there is nothing wrong this. Sex work shouldn't be looked down upon, least of all by the johns, and we should all expect a level of respect from the girls and vice versa.
But I think the different factors that go into this are things that every guy should have a realistic sense of where they fall and I think that can translate into price.You sir are spot on! This right there should settle the argument regarding how much X or why are paying.
JackTaggart
05-22-24, 16:44
I think the worst part in Centro is The Bronx, or El Bron, as they tend to say. Its Calle 56 con Cra 54. Just a few blocks behind Nuti. You'd get some real good discounts down there.Ah, ok. I just walked down the street to the clubs on the street facing the park and got the rates I reported. That walk didn't seem bad at night. And then of course like 50 mil in Centro for rato.
I do not need a further discount if that means a much more dangerous area haha.
I agree with your analysis. In fact, I believe the mayor plans to run for President again. What he is doing is purely political pandering to his conservative base. He is projecting an image of standing up to the vastly more powerful 1st world countries and, as you stated, a defender of the innocence and purity of Colombian youth. I am only mildly sympathetic to punters who got themselves flagged. I have zero sympathy for punters who are on the lists because of noise or other complaints from neighbors. FICO cited that last category as another reason people could be barred from entry.
No. I was in Medellin last week and had no problem entering through airport immigration, however I am in my late 60's. I did notice many younger males in line and they slowed down the process quite a bit. The young, single males in line were getting questioned much more at the front booth and this made it much longer to get through. Heck, 75% of the non-Colombian airline passengers were young men 20-30, probably sex tourists!
Sadly, this mayor is hurting his own businesses and using one or two examples of underaged girls to blast his political agenda. There will always be a case or two. Here the Mayor's own police were at fault for releasing the American suspect from jail the next day because he was "not caught in the act" of doing anything illegal to the 2 underaged girls found in his hotel room, and the suspect promptly left the country. It makes no sense to punish his own businesses, by requiring they close early for 2 weeks, and pay his police officers overtime to set up ID checks in the Parque Lleras area. He is simply trying to get re-elected as a protector of the Medellin families. Political stunts.
Avianca flies that route. Avianca and LATAM code share.
Speaking about flights, I want to rant! Why the hell did Avianca eliminate the direct LAX to Bogota route. The clerk said something about a rumour of Avianca not being able to get a license; that doesn't make sense. What was once a 6.5 hour direct flight is now a 10 hour flight with a layover in El Salvador.Thanks.
Avianca always lad the MIA MDE. LATAM code shared with Delta. They were flying through June and stopped. Weird.
I agree with you regarding Avianca LAX BOG. Wish there is LAX MDE flight. MDE needs more USA cities non-stop. May be an airport handling issue.
Not true in Medellin or Bogota. My Spanish is beyond horrible and I'm finding girls that speak English. Now granted it's more Bogota than Medellin. But it's really not true that you have to pay a huge premium. I don't say that to be cheap. But paying more doesn't result in a better experience. I've paid all ranges. I'm typically paying 200 mil for spinner university girl 18 to 21 for 2 to 3 hours+ BBFS.Love to know how you are doing this.
Which club did you get 100 K BBFS?
I'm not sure how you define the bad part of town. But at a strip club 2 blocks from the nutty (and thus 2 streets from Centro) it was 80 mil for Medio with bbj. 100 mil for BBFS. It was the one where you enter the rooms through the dj booth. It's near Centro. But when I hear "bad area of town" I think a place you are going to get robbed and assaulted .2 blocks from the nutty is a fully lite street and a busy street isn't a bad part of town.
Now should you be walking actually in Centro at that hour. No. But that's not where the strip club is. I'm too gringo to know what the bad part of town is.
I took the Combus from MDE airport to the Exposiciones metro station and it was quite easy. As soon as I came out of the airport terminal, the bus was right there. The bus stops at San Diego shopping center first and then, at the Exposiciones metro station. I saw taxis waiting at the San Diego shopping center and also, at the metro station. You pay the bus driver before getting off the bus. The fare was 15.5 K (aka 15.5 mil or 15.500 COP) pesos. You can pay with cash or with the "Civica" card. Make sure you take the bus that says Tunnel because that route is much quicker.
During my previous and this trip, I used the Metro a lot to get around; it was very convenient and safe. The Metro map is at all stations and the stations are staffed adequately to guide you if you need help. I had gotten the Civica Eventual card during my previous trip and 3 years later, it was still working and had the same balance that I had left on, which was a surprise to me. The card cost is a one-time charge of 10.900 COP. Then, just kept loading up the card with more money as needed. Each one way trip through out the system (I. E. As long as you don't exit the station turnstile) is 3.650 pesos.
Mr Enternational
05-22-24, 20:54
But I think age, personality, weight. Etc CAN play a factor. Money is an easy substitute for some. Or luck maybe.I think the biggest driver is personality. Some guys don't have the personality to try to bargain for a lower price. Some guys act like the girl is doing them a favor, so they are quite alright with and as we see many times even volunteer to pay extra. My personality is that I do not see it as something I need to pay a lot for. My attitude is that I am not about to pay all that money just for some pussy. Others' attitude is oh boy this is my lucky day to be getting some pussy from a fairly attractive chick and all it will cost me is money.
There are at least 2 market places that members here use -.
Local market. Those that pay the regular high street prices (think of it as shopping at the places that local people shop at), and.
Tourist market. Those that pay tourist prices (think of it as shopping at a mall which is only open to tourists and that charges 4 times the local price).
Facebook, La Isla, Fase 2, Loutron, Insta, Desperately Seeking are all part of the tourist market. Vendors here will charge what they can, I. E. What the tourist is willing to pay.Ok? Facebook and La isla, etc. Are tourist prices, where do you find local prices?
Ok? Facebook and La isla, etc. Are tourist prices, where do you find local prices?Facebook is not tourist prices. It's going to depend how you use Facebook I suppose but I have gotten many off of Facebook in the 100 k to 150 k range over the past few years. Have them meet you at a location in Centro and go to a 3 hour hotel.
Also the Botero plaza area and Veracruz Church prices around 40 k to 50 k is another place to find local prices.
Just avoid el Poblado and parque Lleras. That is for sure the tourist pricing as well as the stupid clubs like Gustos, la Isla, Loutron, and all those kind of places.
If you want club atmosphere with local prices I'd suggest the clubs around Centro like ejecutiva grill and conejos.
As for casas (brothels) I believe New Life has been mentioned to charge decent rates or was it Energy I do t remember since I don't use those places but just RTFF and you will find where to go for local pricing.
Gabacho Out.
A very nice summary of the paisa perspective. Well said. 95% of the girls I meet are super sweet, kind, soft spoken and loving. With what little they have, they take good care of themselves, dress and smell good. I treat them like a GF and feed them, give massages, talk to them, give advice, listen to them in their endearing paisa accent and form great memories. I, of course, party with them too. But most of all, please treat them in a way that they don't want to leave or can't wait to come back with a friend.
That is very rarely, if ever, the case for girls going into this business. It may be a reason they stay in the business after getting accustomed to it, but no woman is brought up to want to be (as you so eloquently called them) a "hoe. " The majority of women are doing this because they are very poor and have no other real options. A place like Columbia doesn't have a vibrant social advancement platform and it is much harder to improve your situation with a lot of the barriers in the way. Abuse, at a young age, is rampant in the sex work community as well, either from family or friends and at the emotional or sexual level.
As countries advance, there are more and more women who do sex work to just make some spare cash in college, but Columbia is not that place. It's why so many mongers in the west complain about the prices of women here because those women have minimum wage options and are doing sex work to avoid that. We go to places like Thailand and Columbia to use arbitrage and pay poorer girls for their service.
There is no need to hide from that truth. As long as we pay a fair wage and treat the girls nicely, there is nothing wrong this. Sex work shouldn't be looked down upon, least of all by the johns, and we should all expect a level of respect from the girls and vice versa.
I ended up with a non-tourist package with almost no restrictions from my perspective for a few hours at a lower price.What was the price?
Ok? Facebook and La isla, etc. Are tourist prices, where do you find local prices?Your categories don't really work. If you go in the high end places you will see that there are many locals there as well. All of these types of places have a mix. And the locals pay the same prices. Generally. Regulars may find lower price options. I don't know.
But you go to the streets in Centro, go to the strip clubs that locals go to, and your prices will not be a lot different. Depends a bit on you, and how observant you are about what locals are doing and paying. And perhaps your comfort in Spanish and in negotiating.
Go to the casas. Prices are sometimes printed on a laminated page pinned up in the room or somewhere. You're getting the same deal as the locals. No problem.
The majority of women are doing this because they are very poor and have no other real options.Then how come only a minority of women do it? And how come their ugly cousin works in a laundry or at McD's? Fifty years of mongering in LatAm makes me think there is a lot more to it.
That is very rarely, if ever, the case for girls going into this business. It may be a reason they stay in the business after getting accustomed to it, but no woman is brought up to want to be (as you so eloquently called them) a "hoe. " The majority of women are doing this because they are very poor and have no other real options. A place like Columbia doesn't have a vibrant social advancement platform and it is much harder to improve your situation with a lot of the barriers in the way. Abuse, at a young age, is rampant in the sex work community as well, either from family or friends and at the emotional or sexual level.
As countries advance, there are more and more women who do sex work to just make some spare cash in college, but Columbia is not that place. It's why so many mongers in the west complain about the prices of women here because those women have minimum wage options and are doing sex work to avoid that. We go to places like Thailand and Columbia to use arbitrage and pay poorer girls for their service.
There is no need to hide from that truth. As long as we pay a fair wage and treat the girls nicely, there is nothing wrong this. Sex work shouldn't be looked down upon, least of all by the johns, and we should all expect a level of respect from the girls and vice versa.Yes, however, it's actually Colombia. Thanks.
Ok? Facebook and La isla, etc. Are tourist prices, where do you find local prices?Just check how many locals are using FB to find workings girls. None. In the high end clubs there are hardly any locals either, apart from maybe a small handful of elites, showing off to their friends, a few local 'guides' for tourists, . Even fewer taking girls (locals only have a drink).
The locals do the local thing. Pick up working girls in the streets, the casas, the local clubs, and fuck their nieces. If you don't like Centro, you could try the local clubs in Itagui.
First time in Medellin in a year and everything has changed. The immigration officer asked to check my phone and thank goodness I had just gotten a new phone the day before and had nothing on it. Both immigration officers looked at me with disgust regardless. First La Isla prices are through the roof and are not worth it. The women there keep hounding you for money. It's a complete gringo trap now. They charge $150-200 for one bang not including entry fee and drinks. I went with a girl and I didn't last 10 minutes and I felt like a complete idiot. $150 for that? What a complete ripoff!
On facebook tons of girls are gone and there are barely girls advertising now. Its like only the fuglies remain. I did find one keeper, she was 20 yr old spinner. I am very very discreet and checked her ID. 20 minutes after she arrives, I hear the loudest banging on my door and it's 4 police officers! They came in furious, screaming asking questions. Apparently, a lady in the building called the cops. Now the girl who was aggressive in negotiating played victim. They asked for her ID and it was fake! Luckily she turned out to be 18 and she was just too lazy to get her own ID but what a terrible experience. What if she was 17? I would've gone to jail and my face would've been all over the news. They took pictures of me. All the neighbors were in the hallways wondering what was going on. It was 3 hour debacle.
Listen the crackdown is real! Colombians are pissed about guys coming here for women. Not only that my friend I hangout with here got robbed in Estadio in broad daylight and he's a veteran with 7 years in Medellin. I know this forum likes to look at Medellin with rose colored glasses but this place has gotten terrible. The honeymoon is over. I hope the tourism collapses in Medellin. Maybe you're reading this and you didn't have a bad experience. Or you think it won't happen to you and you could be right, but you could also be wrong. Is it worth the stress? Back to Tijuana and Thailand for me.
TheDerilious
05-23-24, 14:20
Yes, however, it's actually Colombia. Thanks.LOL, yeah, my bad. Best not to use the swipe auto-correct on the phone. :
DiscoverFL
05-23-24, 18:23
A very nice summary of the paisa perspective. Well said. 95% of the girls I meet are super sweet, kind, soft spoken and loving. With what little they have, they take good care of themselves, dress and smell good. I treat them like a GF and feed them, give massages, talk to them, give advice, listen to them in their endearing paisa accent and form great memories. I, of course, party with them too. But most of all, please treat them in a way that they don't want to leave or can't wait to come back with a friend.Amen brother, 100% nailed it. We really need a LIKE button in this forum.
Which club did you get 100 K BBFS?All of them apart from Barra Ejecutiva (and Hitlon Bar). All the other clubs and bars are much lower price for a session.
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