Medellin Reports

[Member #3441]

The dollar was as strongest 2001 and had it's lowest value just before the crisis 2008. Today it stands at 1848 COP, but has been well over 2500, which is a fall in value by 26.

This explains at least 50% of the inflation, maybe even more. Some products and services have risen rapidly, while others stands still.

I can't see why anyone would sell themselves for 5k COP.Not true. Dollar was strongest in 2003 when it was at almost 3000 COP.

How did you compute ¨fall in value by 26¨ and ¨sell themselves for 5k¨?

Regardless, the discussion is on the local economy and real inflation rate of prices in COP, not dollars.

[El Bacano]

If I was attracting beautiful wealthy American women, I would not have feel the need to look for poor South American women, Some Men are a little delusional. I think when I go on a Medellin run I'm the king of the world, when it comes to the women, If you are one of the fortunate Men who attracts the USA ladies good luck with the alimony payments, and I'm sure your ex thanks you for the house and half your income.

[Member #3441]

1. Agree that the P4P price change is not related to the inflation in other goods and services. Probably, the P4P price change is more influenced by 'price elasticity' of the sex-service market. If a price increase by a specific percentage (ie. 20%) results in a decline of sales by a smaller percentage (ie. 10% decline in customers) , it is non price-elastic and the price increase in question will increase overall revenue in spite of the decline in the number of customers. I think the P4P price jumped in the last decade because the market was inelastic- in other words, insufficient people quit or reduced buying the service in spite of the price increases, and thereby rewarded the price increases in effect.

2. Foreigners account for only a small portion of overall customers in sex industry. So, the P4P price increase is more likely to be because of domestic (Colombian) customers, who did not sufficiently reduce or quit buying the services. This may be because of the increase of upper-class and middle-class Colombians.Also, a growing middle-class and upper-class causes fewer girls to join the P4P workforce, reducing the supply the P4P girls in the market. Reduction in supply drives prices up. Today there are half the number of street girls available and considerable fewer attractive girls at the clubs and casas than in 2007, for example.

[Hasideas Tao]

Great weather! Spirit Airline is up to their usual games. $40 to carry on a bag!

Staying at Prado 61 in Centro my first few nights. www.61prado.com Nice attitude from the staff. Decent place for the money. $25 a night and the place is full of cute regular girls who I guess are guests as well. Receptionist has a body to die for and speaks basic English. PM me if anyone wants to grab a beer and do some recon work tonight.

[Pirata2011]

Minimum wage in Colombia is now 560kcop mensual. What social benefits are you talking about. The Colombians I talk to don't have any social benefits or government assistance whatsoever. Its everyman for himself.My friend works in a restuarant and makes 1 million COP / months, but he mentioned that the cost is 1, 3 million for the company for ensurances of different kinds. Yes, it's true that unions and the ordinary worker don't have much of social security if being sick or unemployed, in contrast to the Westeuropean countries. So I will conduct a small investigation!

Good or bad? What we do know is that union leaders and human right ativists live dangerously in Colombia.

The economy is flexible and growth is high and has been so for decades, but the poor now demand higher wages for their services as the size of the middleclass and their incomes has grown rapidly. Still the average colombian is a young person and the competition is hard, so that keeps places as La mayorista with it's standard price 30k going. That is $US16. That is maybe 10% for what you pay for an equal medium hooker in the US!

Reminds me of Thailand, the land of the smile. The people are very friendly, but internal conflicts, corruption, and political instability are a big obstacle in the modernization process. Just like in Colombia.

[Furysys]

What I found the last time I was there (May) , was that the casa girls were about the same or even slightly better than before, and they were far more friendly. The casa prices have gone up somewhat since I started going, but are nowhere at a level which would start to see a falloff in activity (price inelastic). I would disagree.

Somewhat with the comments on the middle class, what I noticed was an even greater discrepancy than before between the rich and poor, and virtually all the money flowing into MDE was going pretty much to Poblado and Envigado (with some to Laurales) , along with a very large influx of girls figuring they could make a buck with the new money and foreigners there. In fact, the basic cost of living in Medellin seems to have gone up astronomically, and, at the same time, the covetedness of the girls, by seeing these huge new malls, Santa Fe for example, but being unable to afford any of it, makes them gravitate to the only business where they can hope to buy anything, given the basic wage is still only around 650k+ or. Per month. Just my observations, anyone is free to comment. As an accountant, conversations like this are ALMOST a turnon.

[Colbrotha]

I think when I go on a Medellin run I'm the KING of the world, when it comes to the womenOf course you are a King, I'm King, everyone a King King. That's the beauty of Purchasing Power and fluctuations in the local currency vs. The Dollar / Euro. Lately, we've been getting the short end of the stick, but in comparison to one's choices in the USA, as Vinny from Jersey Shore would say to Pauly "Forget 'about it". Only in poorer countries, like Colombia, SE Asian countries, does the foreign currency "ROCK". Even with all that national insecurity, pullin' a dime (top shelf quality to say the least) , from what I consider to be the hottest girls on the planet, is / always will be "PARADISE" when its pennies on the dollar.

Peace

[Knowledge]

If I was attracting beautiful wealthy American women, I would not have feel the need to look for poor South American women, Some Men are a little delusional. I think when I go on a Medellin run I'm the king of the world, when it comes to the women, If you are one of the fortunate Men who attracts the USA ladies good luck with the alimony payments, and I'm sure your ex thanks you for the house and half your income.You are not a nice man. You speak the truth but it is not pleasant to hear it.

[Hanshin Baka]

You are usually such a positive guy, why give the troll any attention?


John G.

Runny is a troll. He posted here a while back and spewed his usual crap about never paying and getting laid for free. I've never seen a photo of one of his conquests though so it's probably 40 year old fuglies that he thinks are a 9. 5. He also has a "lot" of money but still flies coach. He has some tennis pro buddy that he tips heavily so he can win and lets him tag along at night so he can hit on local chicas. He'll post a few more baiting messages then slither off back to whatever fantasy land he usually dwells in.

Nixonbd hit it on the head when he wondered why a guy who's been to Colombia 12 times needs to ask such dumbshit questions. It's just a lead in for his self-promotion as the king of the freebies.

Reef.

[Youngman44]

i went yesterday to find out the location and how it is again after a few months off. they have taken over what i would call an old dead trafficantes house. it was never fiished and it was going to be a beautiful place and location. any way. it has 30 foot ceilings. lots of parking. the driveway up tests your 1st gear. and down your breaks. they have nice rooms. they kept the japanese style. they are still working on it. 12 girls. very pretty. 8 of them i would give a 9 for my style. i chose erika. she has worked there for a while. great massage. nice clean rooms. great location. $210. 000.

location is across from the paint ball game on tessorro above the los balsos roundabout. just down a little bit from the speed bump. they built a new wood gate. its a one lane driveway to the top. you cannot see the house from the street. about a half mile higher up the road from the other location. if anyone knows the story of the house. i would love to hear about it.

[Arjay]

i went yesterday to find out the location and how it is again after a few months off. they have taken over what i would call an old dead trafficantes house. it was never fiished and it was going to be a beautiful place and location. any way. it has 30 foot ceilings. lots of parking. the driveway up tests your 1st gear. and down your breaks. they have nice rooms. they kept the japanese style. they are still working on it. 12 girls. very pretty. 8 of them i would give a 9 for my style. i chose erika. she has worked there for a while. great massage. nice clean rooms. great location. $210. 000.

location is across from the paint ball game on tessorro above the los balsos roundabout. just down a little bit from the speed bump. they built a new wood gate. its a one lane driveway to the top. you cannot see the house from the street. about a half mile higher up the road from the other location. if anyone knows the story of the house. i would love to hear about it.do you have an address for new location?

[Member #3441]

La mayorista with it's standard price 30k going. That is $US16. That is maybe 10% for what you pay for an equal medium hooker in the US!

Reminds me of Thailand, the land of the smile.You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.

Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.

[Manizales911]

You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.

Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.Comparing Thailand to Medellin is comparing apples to oranges. Both have their plusses and minuses. A lot of guys don't like the Asian features of the girls and the hellish 24 hour flight to Thailand is a no-go for a lot of guys, I can leave for Medellin in the morning from the east coast USA and be up to my eyeballs in fine colombian ass before dinner time, Thailand will take me until well into the following day and when I get there I need a day to recuperate from the flight. Your statement that one is much more likely to get a bad session in Medellin is simply not true if you are an even slightly experienced monger. Any monger worth his salt can weed out the bad apples 95% of the time long before they get to the room. Many guys don't have the luxury of being able to get away for ten days or more, going to Thailand for less than that is not practical but going to Colombia is for most people living in the USA.

Just my 2 cents

[Dad Fun 555]

the hellish 24 hour flight to Thailand is a no-go for a lot of guysOnly an issue for guys living in North or South America, which is a tiny minority of the planet. I forget the exact number, but they say something like 75% of human population lives within a 5 hour flight of Bangkok. For the vast majority of the planet, Medellin is a hell of a lot more difficult to get to than Bangkok. How many international airlines serve Medellin? Even despite the distances, I'd guess a lot more USA guys choose Thailand over Colombia. For guys in Asia, Middle East and Europe, Colombia is a much longer haul than Thailand.

[SlamCity7777]

i went yesterday to find out the location and how it is again after a few months off. they have taken over what i would call an old dead trafficantes house. it was never fiished and it was going to be a beautiful place and location. any way. it has 30 foot ceilings. lots of parking. the driveway up tests your 1st gear. and down your breaks. they have nice rooms. they kept the japanese style. they are still working on it. 12 girls. very pretty. 8 of them i would give a 9 for my style. i chose erika. she has worked there for a while. great massage. nice clean rooms. great location. $210. 000.

location is across from the paint ball game on tessorro above the los balsos roundabout. just down a little bit from the speed bump. they built a new wood gate. its a one lane driveway to the top. you cannot see the house from the street. about a half mile higher up the road from the other location. if anyone knows the story of the house. i would love to hear about it.you mentioned "great massage" how about the rest of the session? $210 for a full session? 1 hour? it's your money and you can do as you please with it. but damn!

i know you're somewhat of a new member (two posts i believe) , maybe new to the colombia scene but for $210k you can get the same quality girl for the entire night! also you would save on the cab rides, and chances are better quality service for a fraction of that price at the different casas and clubs! it has been said time and time again by more senior members that loutron is a huge rip off! you're paying for their rent and building supplies to finish the house (i have never been to the new house, what's the new address. for future reference jajajjaja).

when i was new to the mede scene i was all about this place but then i did my home work, did some exploring, made some friends and the end results was better service, same hot chicks, and saved a ton of pasoes. i actually hooked up with a girl (expros / semi-pros) at a club that used to work there. guess what? when you got them out of that place and price structure you're looking at $80k-$150k. which is still on the upper end of the market value but still way cheaper than that ragging rip off that is loutron. just my two cents and i'm just trying to help!

[John Gault]

I'm on day nine of a 14 day trip.

The networking with other Gringo's here has been outstanding. Two guys I met here have given me very good intel. Girls who I have seen here many times but not taken are now on my to do list after hearing how good they were. One of these fellows is doing three a day, and also scouting out threesome possibiltys with real lesbo action. The other guy is more laid back but has already introduced my Wing and me to a Spinner who my Wing has fallen in love with. At the table he was debating if he should take her. I then told her that my friend likes kiss's and hugs. She then almost jumoed on him with a big kiss and hug. At that point I told him " either you take her right now or I'm going to." He then made his move, and even though I'm happy that he has found a partner for the rest of this trip, it leaves me to not sample this fine dish.

Myself on this trip I have had health problems, and had to limit myself to water instead of beer, and one day I had to not have a girl which was rare for me.

Last night I was back in action, and I did two with the last one being a TLN for 100K. I have had her before, but this night she provided the GFE that I crave. Maybe the night off was a good thing after all.

A lot of Gringos in attendence, and all of them I have met are good guys.

I am going to focus on Lesbo threesomes for the remainder of this adventure.

[John Gault]

You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.

Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.Please inform me of the city in the USA where I can get Mayorista type girls for $20.

Of course your view of Mayorista Girls may be different than mine. I just had a TLN with one that I would pay $100 for in the Good Ole USA.

Thailand may be great, but I prefer the girls of Latin America. The ass's alone swing the deal for me.

[Youngman44]

You mentioned "Great massage" how about the rest of the session? $210 for a full session? 1 Hour? It's your money and you can do as you please with it. But DAMN!

I know you're somewhat of a new member (two posts I believe) , maybe new to the Colombia scene but for $210K you can get the SAME quality girl for the entire night! Also you would save on the cab rides, and chances are better quality service for a fraction of that price at the different casas and clubs! It has been said time and time again by more senior members that Loutron is a HUGE rip off! You're paying for their rent and building supplies to finish the house (I have never been to the new house, what's the new address. For future reference jajajjaja).

When I was new to the Mede scene I was ALL about this place but then I did my home work, did some exploring, made some friends and the end results was better service, SAME hot chicks, and saved a ton of pasoes. I actually hooked up with a girl (expros / semi-pros) at a club that used to work there. Guess what? When you got them out of that place and price structure you're looking at $80K-$150K. Which is still on the upper end of the Market Value but still WAY cheaper than that RAGGING RIP OFF that is Loutron. Just my two cents and I'm just trying to help!Well I have lived here for almost three years now. I own two homes. Had another one but I sold it to some gringo. LOL. I am not on a pension or have to pinch my pennies. I am not looking for the Cheapest bang. No pun intented. For the fuck. So I guess I am stupid. I have dated girls from Loutrons. I like it. Its clean. Quality. And close to where I live. I have a car so taxi fares mean nothing to me. I like all Medellin and Colombia has to offer. I go to other casa. I know local "normal" girls. Have a few friends with rights. All is good. Always hunting as that is what I do. I don't need nor want a girlfriend. YMMV.

The address means nothing as you will never find it by that. But here goes. Calle 16A Sur no 9E-500 tele 44-44204 Cell 313-230-2756

[SlamCity7777]

Well I have lived here for almost three years now. I own two homes. Had another one but I sold it to some gringo. LOL. I am not on a pension or have to pinch my pennies. I am not looking for the Cheapest bang. No pun intented. For the fuck. So I guess I am stupid. I have dated girls from Loutrons. I like it. Its clean. Quality. And close to where I live. I have a car so taxi fares mean nothing to me. I like all Medellin and Colombia has to offer. I go to other casa. I know local "normal" girls. Have a few friends with rights. All is good. Always hunting as that is what I do. I don't need nor want a girlfriend. YMMV.

The address means nothing as you will never find it by that. But here goes. Calle 16A Sur no 9E-500 tele 44-44204 Cell 313-230-2756Fair enough, thank you for the address.

[Manizales911]

Only an issue for guys living in North or South America, which is a tiny minority of the planet. I forget the exact number, but they say something like 75% of human population lives within a 5 hour flight of Bangkok. For the vast majority of the planet, Medellin is a hell of a lot more difficult to get to than Bangkok. How many international airlines serve Medellin? Even despite the distances, I'd guess a lot more USA guys choose Thailand over Colombia. For guys in Asia, Middle East and Europe, Colombia is a much longer haul than Thailand.It may be true that 75% of the human population resides within 5 hours of Bangkok but I would think that is irrelevant because 99. 999% of those humans don't belong to ISG which are the people I was referring to, who gives a rats ass if some broke ass rice farmer in Vietnam lives an hour away, he can't afford the flight anyway. I would think that the flight to Bangkok for most of the members of ISG is in fact a 20 plus hour journey and that was my point.

[El Bacano]

I would think that is irrelevant because 99. 999% of those humans don't belong to ISG which are the people I was referring to, who gives a rats ass if some broke ass rice farmer in Vietnam lives an hour away. Hahaha. I don't want to kiss some ones ass but this report put me in a great mood I'm still laughing, thanks a lot Man.

[Bandy]

Well I have lived here for almost three years now. I own two homes. Had another one but I sold it to some gringo. LOL. I am not on a pension or have to pinch my pennies. I am not looking for the Cheapest bang. No pun intented. For the fuck. So I guess I am stupid. I have dated girls from Loutrons. I like it. Its clean. Quality. And close to where I live. I have a car so taxi fares mean nothing to me. I like all Medellin and Colombia has to offer. I go to other casa. I know local "normal" girls. Have a few friends with rights. All is good. Always hunting as that is what I do. I don't need nor want a girlfriend. YMMV.

The address means nothing as you will never find it by that. But here goes. Calle 16A Sur no 9E-500 tele 44-44204 Cell 313-230-2756Youngman,

You have posted twice, and both posts contain new infomation. Thanks. You really don't need to justify your actions.

I did not realize that going to LOUTRON is now a capital Offense for the "Price Police".

Price for Loutron is fixed and you did not overpay.

Bandy

[Psychman]

You can find the same low-quality Mayorista-type of hooker in the USA for $20, and for less than $10 in other countries. And if that type of prostitutes floats your boat then more power to you.

Colombia P4P is nothing like Thailand's. Thailand is so much bigger and better. You're ten times more likely to get a bad session in Medellin than in Pattaya. If ISG members had to choose between Thailand or Colombia the ratio would be like 15 to 1 in favor of Thailand.BKK and Patts certainly have much larger scenes, but to say it is better is an opinion only. I have been to Medellin multiple times, and just returned from LOS. I loved Thailand, as I love Medellin and Lima. Each are wonderful.

I will say though that guys who say they prefer Latinas due to great asses (which is one of the reasons I love Latinas, and have always preferred them- I am not a fan of skinny girls) , would be very plesently suprised by the quality of many Thai girls bottoms, and the diversity of body types.

Also,I will say the plane ride from the west coast was not as bad as I thought it would be. Food in Thailand is fantastic, equal to Lima, and far better than MDE.

[Legal Tender]

The ass's alone swing the deal for me.Couldn't agree more!

[Genio Della]

Hi GUYS!

I have a funny story for ya,

I was in Colombia almost 1 month between July and August,

Second day I was there I tried a prepago in chicas lindas,

She told me I was the first customer. Next day I went out with her alone.

Without paying anything. But you know you can't trust a prepago.

So I took my laptop and began to look for a girl in internet I found on badoo a nice girl.

Nothing especial but I went to bello and get to know her,

Same night we were in my apartment, she acted like a girls that does everything in life

All opposite of other girls. She made me get drunk and I fucked her even if she was not so willing.

In the morning she woke up and wanted to do it forever. But I was bothered by his behaviour she wouldn't let me go.

So I dated with her a few times, but I had to go to Cartagena so I left her even if she made me a lot of problems.

When I was in Cartagena she called me and she made such a theatre that I began to think this girls was really in love with

Me, but something was missing, she told me she almost never had sex and she made me a lot of BBBJ without problems.

Even if I saw she wasn't so experienced. I went back to europe decided to leave her but when I called her.

Her sweet voice made me think I could give her a choice. So we went on. Now arrives the funny part.

She began to go out at night and I didn't bother about this. Unless from the fact that I night she called me drunk.

And told me I betraied her in Medellin. I knew I didn't do it so I understood that is conscience was not so clean.

I put an initial sum of 100mil pesos in a new cuenta created for the visa and woooow, after one week 70mil pesos were gone,

She always told me she didn't need money from me and she didn't ask me for money when I was there but I saw the

Account summary and no doubt she was her to take the money. Plus she always

Everyday spoke me about a different famale (she called it friend) friend she had. (but she acted like an almost virgin)

At this point I began to get fed up and I decided to enter via social engineering tecniques in her facebook account. And bingoooooooo.

This wonderful girl so sweet and in love is a nymphomane!

She kept speaking with other men told her best friend to go out and don't tell anyone.

What was happening so that I didn't get to know it.

Spoke with the male friend telling him that I am a problem and she couln't take more money.

From my account because I could have asked it.

Conclusions.

Woman that doesn't ask for money is going to cost more.

158255

[MiamiHeatLuver]

I put an initial sum of 100mil pesos in a new cuenta created for the visa and woooow, after one week 70mil pesos were gone,

She always told me she didn't need money from me and she didn't ask me for money when I was there but I saw the

Account summary and no doubt she was her to take the money. Plus she always

Everyday spoke me about a different famale (she called it friend) friend she had. (but she acted like an almost virgin)

At this point I began to get fed up and I decided to enter via social engineering tecniques in her facebook account. And bingoooooooo.

This wonderful girl so sweet and in love is a nymphomane!

She kept speaking with other men told her best friend to go out and don't tell anyone.

What was happening so that I didn't get to know it.

Spoke with the male friend telling him that I am a problem and she couln't take more money.

From my account because I could have asked it.

Conclusions.

Woman that doesn't ask for money is going to cost more.

158255Thank you so very much for this masterpiece! Lessons learned!

[Genio Della]

Actually this looks like an old european or american case.

Because the girl is mentally sick, she is a nymphomane and mythomane (she says lies even.

In presence of evidence).

But yes putting a dumb cuenta and see what happens and entering the facebook profile,

Are the best ways of keeping track of the situation, someone would say.

That it's a privacy violation but this women violate so many laws that it makes me laugh.


Thank you so very much for this masterpiece! Lessons learned!

[LuckyEddie]

Hi GUYS!

I have a funny story for ya, Genio. Thanks for the head up (thanks for the warning. Thanks for the information).

Gentlemen, unless you live in Medellin, speak near fluent paisa and are culturally tuned in the chances of not getting played are next to nothing. The key is to not come down here looking for love. Especially with an under 30 hottie. She knows her pussy is a money making machine in this day and age and the more lying and deceiving and utter bulshit she spews out the more money she makes and that is what it's all about.

Genio snuck into her Facebook and uncovered what is beneath just about all of these girls here.

So come on down but don't get sucked into the crap. Keep the putas as putas and you will leave a happier man with a straight head, more money in your wallet and a bigger smile on your face. JMHO

[SlamCity7777]

Youngman,

You have posted twice, and both posts contain new infomation. Thanks. You really don't need to justify your actions.

I did not realize that going to LOUTRON is now a capital Offense for the "Price Police".

Price for Loutron is fixed and you did not overpay.

BandyLook, I was mistaken, Youngman had / has a super low post count so I assumed (yeah I know what happens when you do that! LOL) he was a rookie and just wanted to point out that there are cheaper alternatives with comparable quality; IMO a better value. That is all. I had the best of intentions.

Overpaying is relative.

[Ricker]

It may be true that 75% of the human population resides within 5 hours of Bangkok but I would think that is irrelevant because 99. 999% of those humans don't belong to ISG which are the people I was referring to, who gives a rats ass if some broke ass rice farmer in Vietnam lives an hour away f nt.Haha, funniest post in a long while, thanks Manizales!

[Dad Fun 555]

It may be true that 75% of the human population resides within 5 hours of Bangkok but I would think that is irrelevant because 99. 999% of those humans don't belong to ISG which are the people I was referring to, who gives a rats ass if some broke ass rice farmer in Vietnam lives an hour away, he can't afford the flight anyway. I would think that the flight to Bangkok for most of the members of ISG is in fact a 20 plus hour journey and that was my point.Make fun all you want, but India has 1. 2 billion people, with a booming economy and emerging middle class, one of the most sexually repressed cultures on the planet, and has a significant gender imbalance (not enough women to go around). Mumbai is a grueling 4 hour flight to Bangkok. Lots of horny young guys with money who can't get action locally. Do the math. I don't think the fact that bar girls in Pattaya hold signs in Hindi (not to mention Russian, Arabic, etc) is a sign of the times as much as it is beginning of a long term trend. I doubt Bangkok is 20 hours for most ISG members. Maybe in Colombia section, but not the broader site. Huge swaths of ISG are from Asia, India, Middle East, Australia, Europe.

[Member #3441]

2. Foreigners account for only a small portion of overall customers in sex industry. So, the P4P price increase is more likely to be because of domestic (Colombian) customers, who did not sufficiently reduce or quit buying the services. This may be because of the increase of upper-class and middle-class Colombians.
When you visit these casas you don't see them full with foreigners. They are perhpaps 80% filled with locals. Maybe the other % is foreigners or colombians from other cities.It's easy to underestimate the number of foreigners because many of them look like middle and upper class Colombians and speak spanish. They come from North America, Caribbean, other Latin American countries, Europe, Middle-east, and speak spanish and english, and probably read ISG. I've met Cubanos, Venezolanos, Chilenos, Mexicanos, tourists from almost every Latin American country, and Spaniards, French, German, Italians, Israelis, Canadians, etc. At the higher-end P4P establishments during my time in Medellin. Almost all of them spoke spanish and english and looked like middle and upper class Colombians.

[Member #3441]

Your statement that one is much more likely to get a bad session in Medellin is simply not true if you are an even slightly experienced monger. Any monger worth his salt can weed out the bad apples 95% of the time long before they get to the room.Well, perhaps our standards for service are different. For many of us a session is not good if the girl refuses to kiss, refuses to perform BBBJ, refuses DATY, refuses the hand touching of her pussy, refuses the sucking of her breast, demands tips for these services, has a foul-smelling pussy and asshole, is not passionate and enthusiastic in bed, does not know how to fuck and suck well, cuts short the session time, etc.

[Hasideas Tao]

I would like to comment again that 61 Prado is turning out to be a nice little place. Breakfast is additional 6k and well worth it IMHO. The hotel is a quiet place (noisy with chatter in the morning) on a quiet block walking distance from just about everything El Centro has to offer. Which brings me to my experience with Linda's yesterday. While enjoying a wonderful morning I checked out several casas yesterday. Unfortunately, I found the talent at the casas to be kind of low and sparse. Especially compared to what I had seen at the strip clubs on Calle Maricaibo the night before. Small lineups and many gorditas. Being a little frustrated I decided to stop at Lindas and see if the higher prices would be justified with prettier girls. Well, it did. I was quoted 100k for an hour. 150k for two hours. However, the house mom, said its early and asked me to wait 10 minutes so she could wake up some girls to introduce. It was around 11:30 am. She continues to explain that at night she has 12 girls. I met 2 very pleasant young ladies who I will say were definitely of superior appearance to any of the girls I had previously seen at any other casas that morning and a third who was also attractive but just seemed to me like she could have been in any of the other casas. The first girl sat down and chatted with me while I waited for the next. Then the next one sat down with me and waited for the third. The two of us sat and chatted for a good 15-20 minutes until I decided to leave and come back in the evening. Barcelona is right around the corner and it is here where I finally made a choice. A choice based purely on the fact that this little morena had the roundest smoothest ass and I just had to have some. Decent session but nothing spectacular. I got what I wanted. 30k + 3 mil propina.

Then I went home, had a little siesta, then headed back out to Nutibara. Guys! This restaurant is located diagonally across from Parque Botero, practically under the metro and is raised up on a platform so the view of all the action passing by is great! For 5mil I had a quarter of a roasted chicken with potato and arepa. Delicious and cheap! Previous night I had a larger meal with a grilled chicken breast, salad and platanos. Also excellent food. I highly recommend this place because I have been here countless times, their food is consistently good and I hope they never go out of business. A very reasonable and diverse menu with great prices and also great atmosphere, especially for a place to sit and eat outside in El Centro. So I don't know what the hell I did for the next several hours, took photos mostly, but I returned to Linda's a little after the 10 pm and what do you know, the same girls plus one new one. I hate to talk badly but this new girl, who was sweet and pretty cute, I could smell her through her jeans. NOt a good sign. Anyway, I am hanging out with these three girls waiting for 10 more to show up since these two girls said its early and too many girls always show up. Well. 1 other girl showed up, walked by two times but never introduced herself. I waited and waited then two dudes showed up and invited these two girls to another alcove in the place and ordered a bottle of aguardiente. After about 10 more minutes of chatting with the third new girl I was ready to leave when the guys invited us both to come and sit with them. WEll, we sat joked around and chatted for hours! Although no other chicas showed up, these girls had fun easy going playful attitudes and also this one guy was hilarious and apparently comes to meet the same girl every week. Finally, I decide its getting late and I decide I want to go upstairs and my chica says its one hundred for the room and one hundred for her. I express my confusion and she quickly counters with eighty for her. I explain what I was told about prices and she tells me. 100 is for an hour and 200 is for TLN. But that is only for the room. I explained that I only brought 100 for going upstairs and just a little bit more for drinks and whatever. She suggested I talk to the house mom to negotiate. The mom agrees to 100 for one hour or 200 TLN en Total! Perfect. So we go upstairs where apparently this girl is living. Notable mention: No hot water in shower. Total GFE. And the session must have been almost two hours, much of which was spent talking and just joking around. I WALKED back to my hotel which is 5 short blocks away at about 430am. I know my timing may sound a little off but it was difficult to keep track, since I don't wear a watch and my phone must have grown legs at Las Americas the previous evening during a 50k 30 minute session which started great but ended not so great. But I will say I saw many attractive, slim to athletic looking chicas at the clubs on Calle Maricaibo. (Calle 53) I was quoted an occasional 65k but mostly 70k at all of these places and 50k once at las Americas which I accepted. I was also called a pig once after I had declined and said it was too expensive.

Later guys!

[Nclpimp]

How much did you pay for lodging tours and all the other services.

Please advise.He was charging $25k an hour 2 hour minimum.

[Ezyngo]

I arrived in Rionegro around 8PM Thursday night. 09/22/11, took a taxi ($58K) to my hotel in La Mayorista, checked in and was informed the hotel room has to be paid on a daily basis. Anyway, I was dead tired after an excruciating 20hr trip. Normal trip is just like 10 hours with one stop-from LA on a mileage redemption ticket but was ready for some action. I walked to La Mayorista after a shower around 10PM. It was not really a good night- lots of gorditas, old timers, and basically, a 6 or below, many doable nevertheless. But then I spotted Carolina from Robledo, probably an 9 but waited a while after a few beers-it seems like everytime I come Mayo, I always meet and do a Carolina- and wanted to see any chicas hotter than her showed up. I finally took her a little past midnight- 30K, no propina-she did not ask. Service was rather routine and besides I just wanted to get one in. You know what I mean. She gave a decent CBJ, was ready for any positions and did in those. Not a clock watcher but we finished in a little more than 30 minutes. Totally happy. I was not really sleepy so I decided to walk back out Mayo and had a few more beers. I saw Anna there, Margie's sister from the last trip, a little chubby, maybe a 6. Talked to her a little bit and was told she had been there all night long but no hombre. I kinda felt sorry for her so after a few more beers I took her. Nice attitude, excellent CBJ. 30K, no propina. 30 minutes. So 2 chicas in one night even though very tired, just like JG. LOL. By the way, I talked to many chicas last night and not one asked me for more than 30K. I did not understand why some of you lately have gotten quote of 50K or more.

Good days gents.

EZ

[MiamiHeatLuver]

By the way, I talked to many chicas last night and not one asked me for more than 30K. I did not understand why some of you lately have gotten quote of 50K or more.

EZMayorista Hoes will ask for more than 30k if they think, or you give off the rookie / newbie / gringo vibe like they can get it! If you give off the smell of blood to a school of hungry sharks get ready to haggle!

Pay the 42k. 30 for the chica and 12 for the room. Live and Learn!

[Member #4394]

I am envious. Have fun!


So 2 chicas in one night even though very tired, just like JG. LOL. Good days gents.

EZ

[Member #3441]

You mentioned "Great massage" how about the rest of the session? $210 for a full session? 1 Hour? It's your money and you can do as you please with it. But DAMN!

I know you're somewhat of a new member (two posts I believe) , maybe new to the Colombia scene but for $210K you can get the SAME quality girl for the entire night! Also you would save on the cab rides, and chances are better quality service for a fraction of that price at the different casas and clubs! It has been said time and time again by more senior members that Loutron is a HUGE rip off! You're paying for their rent and building supplies to finish the house (I have never been to the new house, what's the new address. For future reference jajajjaja).

When I was new to the Mede scene I was ALL about this place but then I did my home work, did some exploring, made some friends and the end results was better service, SAME hot chicks, and saved a ton of pasoes. I actually hooked up with a girl (expros / semi-pros) at a club that used to work there. Guess what? When you got them out of that place and price structure you're looking at $80K-$150K. Which is still on the upper end of the Market Value but still WAY cheaper than that RAGGING RIP OFF that is Loutron. Just my two cents and I'm just trying to help!Many agree. 210 K for a CBJ and sex on the floor? LOL! Does Loutron still not have beds?

Over the last 10 years Loutron has moved 4 or 5 times, each move resulting in a price jump predictably. I used to go there regularly in the early and mid 2000s but the place started to change drastically in 2007. Alot more Americans, higher price increases, less attractive girls, service went downhill. Now I rarely go because comparable girls and same service are available at Centro casas. It's funny that I've seen Loutron girls also working at these Centro casas and at other lower-price establishments.

If you like L but don't want to pay 210K, write your tel# on small pieces of paper if you don't have calling cards and discreetly hand them to the girls that interest you during the presentation. Arrange a longer session at your place at night or on her off-days for less than half Loutron price. At Loutron the girl's cut is only 30.

[Member #3441]

I decided to stop at Lindas and see if the higher prices would be justified with prettier girls. Well, it did. I was quoted 100k for an hour. 150k for two hours. However, the house mom, said its early and asked me to wait 10 minutes so she could wake up some girls to introduce. It was around 11:30 am. She continues to explain that at night she has 12 girls.

I returned to Linda's a little after the 10 pm and what do you know, the same girls plus one new one. I hate to talk badly but this new girl I could smell her through her jeans. NOt a good sign. Well. 1 other girl showed up.

Notable mention: No hot water in shower.The owner likes to boast she has many girls but in my 9 years I didn't see more than 8 girls and that was during the early 2000s. In the last 5 years.

I did not see more than 5 girls at the casa. Usually 2 or 3 live there while they work. The casa never had hot shower.

[Thirdcoast]

I have used William's service on a number of my trips to MDE and I can highly recommend him. He speaks good english, professional and knows a lot about Medellin. No matter what it is you are looking to do he can assist you with it, casas, sight-seeing, translation, shopping, apartments etc. However, William does not provide women, meaning he does not have a list of girls to call, but if you have rtff then you know there are no shortage of those around. William uses a taxi as his mode of transportation, but, it you prefer he states that he has other cars available. The taxi was never a problem for me and I am over 6' tall. A side note, any place you go that requires an entrance fee and / or drink minimum and is not included in the price. This expense is paid by you.


@Nclpimp

How much did you pay for the apartment or house you rented.

Has anybody else used "willisbestguidemedellin" services.

[You69Me]

Thirdcoast.

Filled out web form and got a quick reply.

Asking about what kind of ladies I wanted.

I replied to his E-mail asking about prices for his different services.

But never heard anything anymore.


I have used William's service on a number of my trips to MDE and I can highly recommend him. He speaks good english, professional and knows a lot about Medellin. No matter what it is you are looking to do he can assist you with it, casas, sight-seeing, translation, shopping, apartments etc. However, William does not provide women, meaning he does not have a list of girls to call, but if you have rtff then you know there are no shortage of those around. William uses a taxi as his mode of transportation, but, it you prefer he states that he has other cars available. The taxi was never a problem for me and I am over 6' tall. A side note, any place you go that requires an entrance fee and / or drink minimum and is not included in the price. This expense is paid by you.

[John Gault]

[QUOTE=Ezyngo; . By the way, I talked to many chicas last night and not one asked me for more than 30K. I did not understand why some of you lately have gotten quote of 50K or more.

Good days gents.

EZ[/QUOTE]I wonder why me, and my friends are quoted 50k by some of the Mayorista girls while everyone else on this board has never heard of such a thing?

You guys have me doubting myself. Could be my crew is seen as suckers while everyone else gets by for the going rate? So my new response to prices is this. No one in this area asks for more than 30K. If they do they are bluffing and will come down to 30K right away.

I hope this will end this talk of pricing in Mayo.

Went to Tantra today. 7 girls. 5K beer. 70K 1/2 hour. 90K one hour. 5 of the 7 were very douable.

BTW Don't look for or PM me for any more info on Mayorista. Clearly I bow to other Mongers knowledge in this area.

[Member #4244]

It might have been you mentioning it multiple times but I feel like I've read the 50K quote before.

Even if so, as I have said before, that WILL NOT become the standard. Think about the economics of it. How can the Mayo, given its relatively remote location, prosper when 50K+14K for the room makes it the same price or more as any Centro strip joint, plus the cabfare? The girls are simply not as good quality, especially on average, and it aint like the centro is full of Aguila girls (though there are some hotties).

Also, consider the clientele. For every one of us assholes, there are 30 Colombians. You think these dudes are going to come out of pocket for that? Bwahahahahaha. They are more likely to offer Mayo prices to Centro girls that Centro prices to Mayo girls.

Rest assured, that teenage mommy with the disgusting gut somehow packed underneath her two-sizes-too-small shirt will not be charging anyone's cheap ass 50K any lifetime soon. I don't mean to dump on the Mayo too too much, but come on, it's like going to Le Bec Fin and ordering French fries.

[Thirdcoast]

@You69Me.

Do not why you have not heard from William about pricing, however, I looked at his website and he has pricing there for various services. Not sure what services you are interested in and if he can provide them. The only thing that I can tell you is that the service he provided me in the past was very good. Just like any other service provider a lawyer, doctor, lawn service company. YMMV.


@Thirdcoast.

Filled out "" web form and got a quick reply.

Asking about what kind of ladies I wanted.

I replied to his E-mail asking about prices for his different services.

But never heard anything anymore.

[Jovocop]

I'm coming down tomorrow for my first time. After having just seen several Colombian 10's in Panama, I'm excited to see what Medellin has to offer. I actually had great luck with the agencies in Panama and love the convenience of just calling a girl to your hotel. We encountered a few issues with getting the girls in, and was wondering if that's also the case in Medellin.

I think I'm going to stay at Art Hotel. Anyone know if a girl coming to my room will be an issue?

Any other recommendations, links, girls, etc would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[LuckyEddie]

Heard from a neighbor's son that there were some problems with robberies tonight but early at la mayorista? Anyone with info LMK.

Thanks!

[Kajukenbo Boy69]

That is strange. William gets back to everyone quickly. I would email him again. I have a secondary email of medellinconciergeservices@gmail.com. Call him when you get there.

For work, I go to Medellin once a month. He charges me 55,000 airport pick up. The hourly rate I pay is 25,000 per hour minimum 4 hours. Take the day tour to Penol.


@You69Me.

Do not why you have not heard from William about pricing, however, I looked at his website and he has pricing there for various services. Not sure what services you are interested in and if he can provide them. The only thing that I can tell you is that the service he provided me in the past was very good. Just like any other service provider a lawyer, doctor, lawn service company. YMMV.

[John Gault]

Heard from a neighbor's son that there were some problems with robberies tonight but early at la mayorista? Anyone with info LMK.

Thanks!The other afternoon in Mayorista there was a big fight in one of the discos near the casino. A lot of blood so maybe a knife was involved. Two guys were thrown in a car all bloody.

Not as manny police around like on other trips here.

[Member #4244]

I'm coming down tomorrow for my first time. After having just seen several Colombian 10's in Panama, I'm excited to see what Medellin has to offer. I actually had great luck with the agencies in Panama and love the convenience of just calling a girl to your hotel. We encountered a few issues with getting the girls in, and was wondering if that's also the case in Medellin.

I think I'm going to stay at Art Hotel. Anyone know if a girl coming to my room will be an issue?

Any other recommendations, links, girls, etc would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.Call the hotel and ask their policy is a discreet way that lets them know clearly what you mean.

I can offer some recs, PM me.

JovoCop, eh? Nice to see another ice hockey fan on the boards. My favorite defenseman today is Shea Weber, the dude is a block of ice.

[El Bacano]

In general a master as myself gives the average pro 6 orgasms a session, I could actually ask them to pay me, but sinse I have at least one one I let them have the money as well as a huge smile for my great work.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

In general a master as myself gives the average pro 6 orgasms a session, I could actually ask them to pay me, but sinse I have at least one one I let them have the money as well as a huge smile for my great work.That's amazing El Bacano. Do you PITCH or do you CATCH with them? You know you should change it up and give your ass a rest. I bet their balls must ache from all of those orgasms you give them.

[OrientalExpress]

In general a master as myself gives the average pro 6 orgasms a session, I could actually ask them to pay me, but sinse I have at least one one I let them have the money as well as a huge smile for my great work.Wow. Amazing. With your size or energy. You should get paid. I normally give one o two per a session. Envy you. But. Sexo is not to please them. Please myself and get relief.

[Member #3441]

It might have been you mentioning it multiple times but I feel like I've read the 50K quote before.

Even if so, as I have said before, that WILL NOT become the standard. Think about the economics of it. How can the Mayo, given its relatively remote location, prosper when 50K+14K for the room makes it the same price or more as any Centro strip joint, plus the cabfare? The girls are simply not as good quality, especially on average, and it aint like the centro is full of Aguila girls (though there are some hotties).

Also, consider the clientele. For every one of us assholes, there are 30 Colombians. You think these dudes are going to come out of pocket for that? Bwahahahahaha. They are more likely to offer Mayo prices to Centro girls that Centro prices to Mayo girls.

Rest assured, that teenage mommy with the disgusting gut somehow packed underneath her two-sizes-too-small shirt will not be charging anyone's cheap ass 50K any lifetime soon. I don't mean to dump on the Mayo too too much, but come on, it's like going to Le Bec Fin and ordering French fries.These putas will try to charge whatever price the clueless foreigner will foolishly pay. If they think you're a dumb tourist the putas will double their quotes. It really makes no sense to pay more than 25K (plus 14K for the room) for Mayo street putas because you can get the same uninspiring service from a similar low-quality looking girl at a Centro casa for less and a significantly smaller chance of getting ripped-off.

[Manizales911]

I heard all about that Eddie, apparently the robbery was by some chica who charged a noob 37k instead of the usual 30k.

The price police were called but they didn't charge the chica as she apparently let the noob suck her big toe, hence the extra charge.

The noob was on tv later, breathlessly recounting his version of the event, claiming it was the chica's first time and she came 3 or maybe 4 times due to the extraordinary toe sucking abilities demonstrated.Hahahahaha, good one señor Palermo.

[Member #4244]

I heard all about that Eddie, apparently the robbery was by some chica who charged a noob 37k instead of the usual 30k.

The price police were called but they didn't charge the chica as she apparently let the noob suck her big toe, hence the extra charge.

The noob was on tv later, breathlessly recounting his version of the event, claiming it was the chica's first time and she came 3 or maybe 4 times due to the extraordinary toe sucking abilities demonstrated.Hahahahahahaha, well done, I laughed my ass off at that.

[Jovocop]

Call the hotel and ask their policy is a discreet way that lets them know clearly what you mean.

I can offer some recs, PM me.

JovoCop, eh? Nice to see another ice hockey fan on the boards. My favorite defenseman today is Shea Weber, the dude is a block of ice.Can't seem to see how to do a pm? Perhaps you could email me a few photos / contact info for a few of your faves? I'll do the same. Hound found a super hot one last night and she's coming back with a friend today for a 3way.

[Member #4244]

Can't seem to see how to do a pm? Perhaps you could email me a few photos / contact info for a few of your faves? I'll do the same. Hound found a super hot one last night and she's coming back with a friend today for a 3way.That is a dead end proposition, because if you post your email or I post mine, it will get deleted. So how are we going to know each other's address?

Just register fully and get PM privileges. It is worth it.

[John Gault]

This afternoon my friend took a girl from the Mayo strip. I liked her looks and when he was done with her he called me into his room. He told her to drop her towel. She then showed me a fine body with a nice landing strip (first one I saw this trip ).

Her price was 25K, but would do a BBBJ for 5K more.

Got her into the room, and she was very good. As we were getting dressed I asked her how she felt about threesomes. Her face broke into a big smile, as she told me she was by sexual. She then writes her number down for me. Of course since it is my last night here I already had a TLN set up with one of my regulars.

It seems every trip this happens where I find a good one on the last night. This really hurt as my only other threesome this trip was more simulation than them diving into the patch with gusto.

[Mr Gogo]

This afternoon my friend took a girl from the Mayo strip. I liked her looks and when he was done with her he called me into his room. He told her to drop her towel. She then showed me a fine body with a nice landing strip (first one I saw this trip ).

Her price was 25K, but would do a BBBJ for 5K more.

Got her into the room, and she was very good. As we were getting dressed I asked her how she felt about threesomes. Her face broke into a big smile, as she told me she was by sexual. She then writes her number down for me. Of course since it is my last night here I already had a TLN set up with one of my regulars.

It seems every trip this happens where I find a good one on the last night. This really hurt as my only other threesome this trip was more simulation than them diving into the patch with gusto.I remember last time I was in Medellin we were missing each other but you told me to look for the guy with a beard in Mayorisata. Well I was there one night alone. When I go to La Mayorista alone I never sit at a table alone like a "mark". So I was playing the wall near the fake casino on the corner with the tricks sipping a beer. I saw these three Americanos that I was watching. Well before I could make my introduction I saw the one with the beard (you) sneak away with a girl. Not wanting to expose GoGo unneeded I said" John Gault" as you walked by but you were focused on the task at hand. I then decided to approach the two other Americanos, one short one bulky. I said"Americanos?" but they were in defense mode and just played me off like I was a street hustler. I later pmed you and you said that was you. The funny part was that yall were cool, but when you decided to make your move on that piece of ass your boys looked lost and confused. My point is you can tell who is comfortable in La Mayorist and who is not very easy.

[You69Me]

Thanks I will try this E-mail and let you know.

I have 3 weeks for Panama and Medellin.

Any suggestions where to spend most of my time.


That is strange. William gets back to everyone quickly. I would email him again. I have a secondary email of medellinconciergeservices@gmail.com. Call him when you get there.

For work, I go to Medellin once a month. He charges me 55, 000 airport pick up. The hourly rate I pay is 25, 000 per hour minimum 4 hours. Take the day tour to Penol.

[The Navys Fault]

I am sure you all have heard the saying,"feed a man a fish and he eats for the day", teach a man to fish and he eats for life". Well, I was taught to fish in July on my first visit to MDE in late July. This was due to some very cool folks on this forum and awesome people in MDE who I return to see. Now, thanks to a great fare from Fort Lauderdale. MDE ($275 RT. Non-stop) I will be putting my pole back in the waters (so to speak) from Oct 27-31st. Big Halloween party planned and so pumped for this 2nd trip to MDE. Still more to learn as you should never stop getting ISG knowledge and who can see or do everything in one trip?

Anybody else going to be down during these dates? I will have two buddies who have not been to MDE and were doing there thing in Honduras the same time I was in MDE in July. PM me if you will be around or to recomend anything. Regards. Dan

[Manizales911]

I am sure you all have heard the saying,"feed a man a fish and he eats for the day", teach a man to fish and he eats for life". Well, I was taught to fish in July on my first visit to MDE in late July. This was due to some very cool folks on this forum and awesome people in MDE who I return to see. Now, thanks to a great fare from Fort Lauderdale. MDE ($275 RT. Non-stop) I will be putting my pole back in the waters (so to speak) from Oct 27-31st. Big Halloween party planned and so pumped for this 2nd trip to MDE. Still more to learn as you should never stop getting ISG knowledge and who can see or do everything in one trip?

Anybody else going to be down during these dates? I will have two buddies who have not been to MDE and were doing there thing in Honduras the same time I was in MDE in July. PM me if you will be around or to recomend anything. Regards. DanHalloween is a great time in Medellin most years but keep in mind that this year it coincides with elections so it is "Ley Seca" which means no booze is allowed to be sold anywhere. Now I know halloween falls on Monday but the party is the weekend before and to my knowledge the whole weekend is supposed to be dry. How many bars or clubs will break the rules I don't know but if I were you I would stock your apartment or hotel room with booze before the weekend.

[Manizales911]

Halloween is a great time in Medellin most years but keep in mind that this year it coincides with elections so it is "Ley Seca" which means no booze is allowed to be sold anywhere. Now I know halloween falls on Monday but the party is the weekend before and to my knowledge the whole weekend is supposed to be dry. How many bars or clubs will break the rules I don't know but if I were you I would stock your apartment or hotel room with booze before the weekend.Just a follow up on exactly when Ley Seca is.

Election day is October 30. The sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages will be prohibited from 6:00 pm on Saturday, October 29, until 6:00am on Monday, October 31.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Halloween has become one of the biggest adopted holidays in Colombia (they absolutely love it) with HOUSE parties all over the place. I don't particularly like it though because you have no clue whats under all of that makeup LOL!

If it IS LEY SECA, all the Bars and Clubs will be government mandated CLOSED but they still sell alcohol in the supermarkets so its best to do house parties. I like those much better anyways.

A big plus is that the chicas will be looking for things to do that weekend and it will be a lot easier for them to make up their minds to come over. GRANTED that there is no better offer "on the table" for them. These girls whether it be pro or non pro will always take the best option offered to them. So don't take it personally if a girl tells you shes coming over and doesn't show up and you call her cell and get the voice mail.. Happens to everyone all the time. Colombianas are very flaky.

[The Navys Fault]

Halloween has become one of the biggest adopted holidays in Colombia (they absolutely love it) with HOUSE parties all over the place. I don't particularly like it though because you have no clue whats under all of that makeup LOL!

If it IS LEY SECA, all the Bars and Clubs will be government mandated CLOSED but they still sell alcohol in the supermarkets so its best to do house parties. I like those much better anyways.

A big plus is that the chicas will be looking for things to do that weekend and it will be a lot easier for them to make up their minds to come over. GRANTED that there is no better offer "on the table" for them. These girls whether it be pro or non pro will always take the best option offered to them. So don't take it personally if a girl tells you she's coming over and doesn't show up and you call her cell and get the voice mail. Happens to everyone all the time. Colombianas are very flaky.See guys, this is why I love ISG. Thanks for the update. We get in on Thur and will rip it up hard Thur / Friday and since we have a 2-story. 3,500 sq ft Penthouse with 5 bedrooms / 5. 5 baths. 2 whirlpools and steamroom (guess who is getting Master Bedroom? Yes, me) and I know it rocks as I stayed there last time. We will have the PARTY at our place! It does suck thought that it is dry town Sat / Sun. Reports / pixs to follow!

[Member #4244]

I am sure you all have heard the saying,"feed a man a fish and he eats for the day", teach a man to fish and he eats for life". Well, I was taught to fish in July on my first visit to MDE in late July. This was due to some very cool folks on this forum and awesome people in MDE who I return to see. Now, thanks to a great fare from Fort Lauderdale. MDE ($275 RT. Non-stop) I will be putting my pole back in the waters (so to speak) from Oct 27-31st. Big Halloween party planned and so pumped for this 2nd trip to MDE. Still more to learn as you should never stop getting ISG knowledge and who can see or do everything in one trip?

Anybody else going to be down during these dates? I will have two buddies who have not been to MDE and were doing there thing in Honduras the same time I was in MDE in July. PM me if you will be around or to recomend anything. Regards. DanThere is a good chance I will be down there then. Hit me up via PM. Enjoy.

[John Gault]

I remember last time I was in Medellin we were missing each other but you told me to look for the guy with a beard in Mayorisata. Well I was there one night alone. When I go to La Mayorista alone I never sit at a table alone like a "mark". So I was playing the wall near the fake casino on the corner with the tricks sipping a beer. I saw these three Americanos that I was watching. Well before I could make my introduction I saw the one with the beard (you) sneak away with a girl. Not wanting to expose GoGo unneeded I said" John Gault" as you walked by but you were focused on the task at hand. I then decided to approach the two other Americanos, one short one bulky. I said"Americanos?" but they were in defense mode and just played me off like I was a street hustler. I later pmed you and you said that was you. The funny part was that yall were cool, but when you decided to make your move on that piece of ass your boys looked lost and confused. My point is you can tell who is comfortable in La Mayorist and who is not very easy.I think one day we will meet, and I think it will be in Sosua.

It is easy to find a SW, but harder to find good Wingman.

Next time hollar at me. LOL

[Member #4176]

Trip report.

I am writing this alittle late. Been home about a week now, and still feel the withdrawls. I spent 10 days in Medellin and it wasn't enough. This was the first time in Medellin solo but, I had some amignovias there so wasn't too worried.

Day 1. I checked into my apartment and hit New Life. The line up have mostly 6 and 7's. I saw this one bajita named Sara. Cute with a great smile (and ass). Nice body but, she must of just had implants put in her ass. I had a different shape and was still brused. She did a great session so no real complaints. Later that day called one of my amignovia and rented a hotel room in Laureles banged for hours. Went home about 2am and passed out. Long day. 6 hour flight plus multiple pops. I just passed out.

Day 2. Met a fellow monger at Parque Lleras had some lunch. We went to el centrel and he showed me around. After a while we went to a casa I Athena. Only about 4 chicas. 1 was about a 8 body and a 6 face. Real machanical. After this I went to my apartment to relax until I meet up again with my amigonovia. She told me the 1st day that she knew a friend so we can have a trio but, when I met her she said that her friend could not make it. Instead, she ofter. To go to a swingers club. There we can have a threesome, foursome what ever I wanted. It's called Dreams. Its on Cra 44 No. 26-02. It was a Tuesday so not too many people there. About 5 couples. I had a great time. While I was banging couples were banging and eventually (its easier if you have some alcohol) people started to talk to us. After a little basic conversation the group the condoms went on and I banged 2 chicas. Then I switch partners I banged this guy's chica. This went on until about 2am. I also found out that there are a couple of clubs one in particular call la cama in sabeneta. I was told that this club was really nice but, only open Thurs. Saturday. Went home and passed out.

Day 3. Meet my fellow monger for lunch. Called Demi Moore. Had a great session. She was fun and willing to please. After several hours she left and I meet with another amignovia. Spent time in the apartment banged and then went to parque lleras to eat.

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[Happy Neil]

First night went to Faces Dos around 8:30 pm and the girls were eating dinner of rice and beans provided by the establishment. I saw a relatively fresh 21 year old girl, a little chubby in the waist and hips and crooked teeth, but doable, and plunked down my money. Had to pay 5K more for condom. Nothing exciting about the sex.

Next day I went to Abydos. Says in the phone book it opens at 11 am but when I arrived they said noon. 8 girls were ready at noon and I checked all of them out. I had 21 year old Laura for 65, 000 pesos. She was friendly and smiled more than the other girls. Smaller tities, but firm ass. Did her doggy syle. Abydos is my favorite in MDE.

[Happy Neil]

Few slim girls anymore. Santa fe mall is just as good as new malls in the US and was packed on a Sunday afternoon with all the families coming to look. Dollar is weak at 1780 or so to the peso. Viscaya mall is mostly empty. Tesoro still 90% full of tenants. Alot of siicone titties.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Few slim girls anymore. Santa fe mall is just as good as new malls in the US and was packed on a Sunday afternoon with all the families coming to look. Dollar is weak at 1780 or so to the peso. Viscaya mall is mostly empty. Tesoro still 90% full of tenants. Alot of siicone titties.The more POPSY, MARIO BROS, EL CORAL, FRISBY, KOKORIKO and especially Mcdonalds now. You will start to see a gradual upwards swing to the chubbies more and more as the years go on.

Social media on the computer all day, facebook, msn. LESS walking and an ALL starch diet will be the downfall of the slim Colombiana.

Rice, Arepas, Potatoes, Pastas, everyday all day long with tons of soda everyday with every meal including birthday cakes.

I ask my lady friends where the want to go now and everything is Mcdonalds and a Mcflurry.

Thank god we will work most of those calories off in bed while I count the numerous orgasms I give them (at least 5 or 6)

[Bandy]

First night went to Faces Dos around 8:30 pm and the girls were eating dinner of rice and beans provided by the establishment. I saw a relatively fresh 21 year old girl, a little chubby in the waist and hips and crooked teeth, but doable, and plunked down my money. Had to pay 5K more for condom. Nothing exciting about the sex.

Next day I went to Abydos. Says in the phone book it opens at 11 am but when I arrived they said noon. 8 girls were ready at noon and I checked all of them out. I had 21 year old Laura for 65, 000 pesos. She was friendly and smiled more than the other girls. Smaller tities, but firm ass. Did her doggy syle. Abydos is my favorite in MDE.Abydos is 120K COP per hour. You pay to the house. Price is fixed and that's what I paid in August. How did you get 65K?

Bandy

[Member #3441]

First night went to Faces Dos around 8:30 pm and the girls were eating dinner of rice and beans provided by the establishment. I saw a relatively fresh 21 year old girl, a little chubby in the waist and hips and crooked teeth, but doable, and plunked down my money. Had to pay 5K more for condom. Nothing exciting about the sex.

Next day I went to Abydos. Says in the phone book it opens at 11 am but when I arrived they said noon. 8 girls were ready at noon and I checked all of them out. I had 21 year old Laura for 65, 000 pesos.In the past, Fase2 never charged extra for a condom. Best thing to do is to exchange phone numbers and set up an appointment with the girl for a few hours for half Fase2 price at your place after work or on days she does not work.

I don't know if Abydos and Loutron are still owned by the same people, but when they were you'the see Abydos girls working at Loutron, and Loutron girls working at Abydos.


The more POPSY, MARIO BROS, EL CORAL, FRISBY, KOKORIKO and especially Mcdonalds now. You will start to see a gradual upwards swing to the chubbies more and more as the years go on.

Social media on the computer all day, facebook, msn. LESS walking and an ALL starch diet will be the downfall of the slim Colombiana.

Rice, Arepas, Potatoes, Pastas, everyday all day long with tons of soda everyday with every meal including birthday cakes.

I ask my lady friends where the want to go now and everything is Mcdonalds and a Mcflurry.
Few slim girls anymore. Dollar is weak at 1780 or so to the peso. Viscaya mall is mostly empty. Alot of siicone titties.Local TV news reported that 70% of Colombianas are overweight. Increasing waistline, less attractive faces, worsening service are some of the reasons I spend less time in Medellin. Speaking of Halloween, the working girls on the streets look like a scene from ¨Night of the Living Dead. ¨ Viscaya has been mostly empty for years

[Happy Neil]

Abydos is 120K COP per hour.

BandyCorrect. It was about $65 US.

[El Bacano]

The more POPSY, MARIO BROS, EL CORAL, FRISBY, KOKORIKO and especially Mcdonalds now. You will start to see a gradual upwards swing to the chubbies more and more as the years go on.

Social media on the computer all day, facebook, msn. LESS walking and an ALL starch diet will be the downfall of the slim Colombiana.

Rice, Arepas, Potatoes, Pastas, everyday all day long with tons of soda everyday with every meal including birthday cakes.

I ask my lady friends where the want to go now and everything is Mcdonalds and a Mcflurry.

Thank god we will work most of those calories off in bed while I count the numerous orgasms I give them (at least 5 or 6) In general the least amount of times I have ever given a pro was 6, I try to limit this this because I could be stalked so I never give them my real name, El BaD ASS Bacano is roaming Medellin in November, I hope to see a few Members there, I ask all members to quit taking the girls to McDs, Please feed them healthier vegetables and fruits, Its bad enough we have a gringo influx we need to keep the girls thin,

[Member #4244]

Why are you pretending as though you're talking to a bunch of virgins that don't understand how sex, p4p and orgasms work?

Even if you claims are true (*stifles snickering*) do you think anyone here cares or gives a fuck? Would you like to be congratulated? I also notice your posts are completely devoid of useful information, presumably because your superior skills in bed have caused all these prepagos to retire and spend their days in starvation and despondence as they pine for the return of their Bacano.

[Kajukenbo Boy69]

Try willisbestsupport@gmail.com.

Willi is marketing & getting tech help.

He sends me emails from both accounts. They both work for me. Call him and ask him to take you to the hole in the wall places

That are off the grid. How he knows these places I will never know but I could never find them by myself. He took me to eat

At these restaurant dives off the grid too but let me tell you best chicken and seafood I have ever eaten in my life. Cheap too.


The answer from this E-mail <medellinconciergeservices@gmail.com Was.

Why I sent my inquiry here. Strange.

[Sailor Jim]

Thanks I will try this E-mail and let you know.

I have 3 weeks for Panama and Medellin.

Any suggestions where to spend most of my time.William has been known to rip off some patrons and treating some of the girls badly. You don't want to get mixed up with him or his bad reputation. He would be blacklisted here but no one on this forum is that slow to hire a guide taxi driver. It's just asking for trouble.

The newbies that read the colombian forum for a week, with all the maps and lists and prices and chatter, figure out everything they need to know, they get to Colombia and hit the ground running.

The conversation you "guys" are having with yourself with your 3 newbie handles isn't fooling anyone.

[LuckyEddie]

Why are you pretending as though you're talking to a bunch of virgins that don't understand how sex, p4p and orgasms work?

Even if you claims are true (*stifles snickering*) do you think anyone here cares or gives a fuck? Would you like to be congratulated? I also notice your posts are completely devoid of useful information, presumably because your superior skills in bed have caused all these prepagos to retire and spend their days in starvation and despondence as they pine for the return of their Bacano.If you read this forum you will see the sarcasm in the "I gave her 10 orgasms" post that have been running on here for over a year.

[LuckyEddie]

I heard all about that Eddie, apparently the robbery was by some chica who charged a noob 37k instead of the usual 30k.

The price police were called but they didn't charge the chica as she apparently let the noob suck her big toe, hence the extra charge.

The noob was on tv later, breathlessly recounting his version of the event, claiming it was the chica's first time and she came 3 or maybe 4 times due to the extraordinary toe sucking abilities demonstrated.Story update: Said chica had that toe surgically removed, bronzed and hung on the mantle so as to always remember that most incredible gringo orgasm experience.

Although the chica is still on the circuit it is still her first time since she can remember no other sexual encounter before or after that 4 orgasm gringo toe sucking.

Her Going price today after Toe-ectomy? : still 30K + 10K extra to now let clients suck the famous nub.

[Ezyngo]

I flew home early Wednesday morning, Sept. 28, 2011 with a flu. I think I caught it the day earlier in El Centro while walking and window shopping with novia and just got over it today, Saturday, Oct. 01, 2011, having recovered completely. I totally put the blame on way too much rain in MDE and the difference in climate between it and So. California. Back to the trip. I purposely stayed in Mayo the whole week and so the experience was somewhat a little different than previous trips. I did not spend a lot of time with novia and mainly concentrated on the action in Mayo.

1. I met a few mongers, wingmen, and an ISG member who happened to stay at the same hotel like I did, and a few days later another ISG member in front of hotel cielo azul. It was very interesting to observe other non-local mongers in action in Mayo if you ever had a chance. Because YMMV. We all had different tastes in chicas, and hence, no two mongers are alike. I enjoyed meeting these gentlemen.

2. Picked up a new chica practically just getting off the bus from Bogota named Sara and she said she was 19 and looked 19 or older, on the last night of my trip, Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2011. I was too drunk to check her cedula, which I should have, because later in the night, another monger told me she was only 15. Who do you believe especially when under the influence? LOL. Anyway she had a nice attitude I gave her a 9, face 7, body 7, overall 7 maybe because she was new to the business, and said she came to MDE to live with mama and her baby, was born in Bogota. She almost had 'an orgasm', jumped up and down the minute I OFFERED her 30K and 'vamos', was very happy with the money. But I could not bring myself to a happy ending no matter how hard she sucked my dick so I let her go after a little over 30 mins. I usually do not repeat, but for this one, I definitely will if I ever see her again in Mayo on my next trip.

3. Price was the same as in the past even though there was a chica named Valeria from Bello who quoted me 50K on Friday night, Sept. 23, 2011. She was the first to do so to me but I firmly stood my ground at 30K and she finally settled for that. Overall 8, face 7, great attitude, above average paisa look, body 8, boobs 34C, nice long black hair. Even having said so, I did not repeat with her on subsequent encounters on the strip although every time she saw me, she asked me to 'vamos' with her.

There were so many more things I wanted to report but that was it for now gentlemen.

Good days

EZ

[MiamiHeatLuver]

2. Picked up a new chica practically just getting off the bus from Bogota named Sara and she said she was 19 and looked 19 or older, on the last night of my trip, Tuesday, Sept. 27, 2011. I was too drunk to check her cedula, which I should have, because later in the night, another monger told me she was only 15. Who do you believe especially when under the influence? LOL.

EZAlready get enough hate, negativity and unwanted attention towards websites like this one! Its stupid shit like this like this that doesn't help our cause and shines an already negative spotlight on the hobby as it is. Playing stupid, ignorance or inebriation is no excuse. If you're not sure of the age, better move along, get full proof of cedula or better yet in your case, keep it to yourself.

[Member #4394]

Everytime I come to Medellin, I catch cold / flu while the temparature in Medelline is higher than the temparature in my home town in general. But it gets chilly significantly in the night in Medellin. Plus, it is rainning all the time. I suspect that viruses and bacteria are very different from those in the USA Though I have flu shots before going to Medellin, they do not seem to be working. Plus, the car emission is scarcely regulated in Medellin, and the air is very poluted, which causes various infections. I would appreciate any suggestion for cold prevention in Medellin.


I flew home early Wednesday morning, Sept. 28, 2011 with a flu. I think I caught it the day earlier in El Centro while walking and window shopping with novia and just got over it today, Saturday, Oct. 01, 2011, having recovered completely. I totally put the blame on way too much rain in MDE and the difference in climate between it and So. EZ

[You Can]

Yea, this kind of stuff is no Joke! I don't know why anyone would think that is funny regardless of if your drunk or not. You can get in serious trouble with that kind of behavior regardless. I have had girls come up to me and the few people who know me, have seen me smashed and I always want to have the cedula checked no matter how fucked up I am.


Already get enough hate, negativity and unwanted attention towards websites like this one! Its stupid shit like this like this that doesn't help our cause and shines an already negative spotlight on the hobby as it is. Playing stupid, ignorance or inebriation is no excuse. If you're not sure of the age, better move along, get full proof of cedula or better yet in your case, keep it to yourself.

[Artisttyp]

Everytime I come to Medellin, I catch cold / flu while the temparature in Medelline is higher than the temparature in my home town in general. But it gets chilly significantly in the night in Medellin. Plus, it is rainning all the time. I suspect that viruses and bacteria are very different from those in the USA Though I have flu shots before going to Medellin, they do not seem to be working. Plus, the car emission is scarcely regulated in Medellin, and the air is very poluted, which causes various infections. I would appreciate any suggestion for cold prevention in Medellin.I am totally with you. If I don't get sick it is the exception not the norm. There is nothing to do about it unless you are willing to not do DATY or DFK. Then why pay thousands of dollars to travel? Even then just being on an airplane or around new germs will increase your chances of getting sick by 100. A good trip for me is when I get sick afterwards not during and certainly not before.

This is an ongoing saga with me that I accept as an international traveler. What blows is when you only have a one week trip and you get sick. Luckily I do long trips so the occasional two weeks of being sick doesn't ruin everything for me.

Bring a multi vitamin with an extra B complex supplement and stay someplace where you can *sleep. Do not cheap out on lodging when sleep deprivation might be an issue. Do bring enough warm sleeping clothes. I can't stress this enough. You will never have enough blankets. Your sleep clothes are your blankets. A hooded sweatshirt is vital.

It's rough. I have suffered dearly with colds / flu's while traveling.

[Joey Smith]

William has been known to rip off some patrons and treating some of the girls badly. You don't want to get mixed up with him or his bad reputation. He would be blacklisted here but no one on this forum is that slow to hire a guide taxi driver. It's just asking for trouble.

The newbies that read the colombian forum for a week, with all the maps and lists and prices and chatter, figure out everything they need to know, they get to Colombia and hit the ground running.

The conversation you "guys" are having with yourself with your 3 newbie handles isn't fooling anyone.Guys. Please clue me in. I've contacted this guy Willy and arranged for a taxi ride from the airport in NOVEMBER. Is this a big mistake. I was also thinking of asking HIM to drive over to Poblado and look at some apts?

[EstebanH]

tastes in chicas, and hence, no two mongers are alike. i enjoyed meeting these gentlemen.

i was too drunk to check her cedula, which i should have, because later in the night, another monger told me she was only 15. who do you believe especially when under the influence? i usually do not repeat, but for this one, i definitely will if i ever see her again in mayo on my next trip.

ezi don't know if admin has seen this, but this is illegal. as far as i know, posting about **** activity is not allowed on his site. besides, it is just plain wrong for an older man to sleep with a 15 year old. i don't care if colombian men do it, that does not make it right or ok. i have a teenage daughter, and i am telling you this is just a very wrong thing to do. there are plenty of of beautiful women in colombia over 18 and absolutely no reason for this to occur with a minor. making a mistake one time is one thing, but repeating it would make you a sick fuck.

[Member #4394]

as far as i read his post, another monger told him that she was only 15 "after" the sex, but nobody knows. i am sure he will check her cedula next time.


i don't know if admin has seen this, but this is illegal. as far as i know, posting about **** activity is not allowed on his site. besides, it is just plain wrong for an older man to sleep with a 15 year old. i don't care if colombian men do it, that does not make it right or ok. i have a teenage daughter, and i am telling you this is just a very wrong thing to do. there are plenty of of beautiful women in colombia over 18 and absolutely no reason for this to occur with a minor. making a mistake one time is one thing, but repeating it would make you a sick fuck.

[John Gault]

as far as i read his post, another monger told him that she was only 15 "after" the sex, but nobody knows. i am sure he will check her cedula next time.i met this fellow, and i saw him dealing with the normal mayo girls. i think he made a mistake in not checking her i'd, but that said he seemed to me a man who really enjoyed the p4p action, and he seemed to be a happy camper, and i think will be more careful in the future.

it is very easy to judge from our easy chairs at home while others are toiling in the trenches.

one other thing should be brought out here. if a person is foolish enough to be with an **** person they should not post about it. not good for the hobby or the poster.

on another note. i too caught a bug while enduring the mde constant rain, and i thought i was over it, but still the cough presists.

next trip will be in a place where it does not rain everyday. sure i love the mde ladys, but my health is more important than a roll in the hay.

[World Travel 69]

Get Z Pack from your doctor. Never leave home without it.

One Year I spent three months in Buenos Aires.

The Gripp as they call it, something like the flu was going around. Especially doing DFKing all the time. I had the bug for almost a month and a half. I tried all kinds of Meds there, saw the doctor a few times, but could not shake it. Until I got home, saw my doctor and took the Z Pack he recommended. It was Gone it in few days.


Everytime I come to Medellin, I catch cold / flu while the temparature in Medelline is higher than the temparature in my home town in general. But it gets chilly significantly in the night in Medellin. Plus, it is rainning all the time. I suspect that viruses and bacteria are very different from those in the USA Though I have flu shots before going to Medellin, they do not seem to be working. Plus, the car emission is scarcely regulated in Medellin, and the air is very poluted, which causes various infections. I would appreciate any suggestion for cold prevention in Medellin.

[Artisttyp]

Get Z Pack from your doctor. Never leave home without it.

One Year I spent three months in Buenos Aires.

The Gripp as they call it, something like the flu was going around. Especially doing DFKing all the time. I had the bug for almost a month and a half. I tried all kinds of Meds there, saw the doctor a few times, but could not shake it. Until I got home, saw my doctor and took the Z Pack he recommended. It was Gone it in few days.WT,

What is the Z pack and where do you find it online? Includes zinc I assume?

[El Bombero]

i think the "z pack" he's referring to is azithromycin, a pretty strong antibiotic used to treat respiratory infections and stds. i'm another one that always seems to catch something when i travel to latin america. the smog making your insides raw, the constant exposure to chica fluids, the foreign foods, and alcohol weakening your immune system all combine to create the perfect host to a viral infection.

in fact, i just got back from mde and guess what? i'm sick with a really bad cold. this trip i tried spraying my mouth throat and nasal tract with zicam throughout the trip and especially when i got on my flights but it didn't help one bit. i even downed a couple emergen-c packets when i was there too. because i knew i was prone to getting something. happens every time.

the only thing i've experienced that has effectively fought a virus is tamiflu. a while ago, i had to stay home with my son for a week when he had influenza a and i thought for sure i was going to get it bad. but his ped gave me sample packs of tamiflu tablets to take as a prophylaxis and i got through the ordeal completely unrep001hed.

i think i might look for tamiflu tablets at the farmacia the next time i'm there. can't remember the generic name.

[Ivel]

WT,

What is the Z pack and where do you find it online? Includes zinc I assume?The Z-Pack is good stuff! It is a strong prescription antiboitic pill that is taken for a shorter period of time. It is known as Zithromax. I think the proper name is Azithromycin.

The way it was prescribed to me is to take 2 pills the first day as one dose and one pill everyday afterwards. A total of 6 pills.

I just noticed I have one refill left. Need to go get it.

[Artisttyp]

If Z pack is an antibiotic then I have mixed feelings about it. Uber mongering with antibiotics just to get a sexual release doesn't appeal to me. It reminds me of a junkie shooting up in their eyelid. PARTY!

I tend to get really bad throat infections with white spots. At first glance you would say it's strep throat but the only way to tell is by having a throat culture done. I recently found out that the white spots are an immune response to your environment. Silly me because I thought for sure I had strep since I couldn't swallow well. My doctor told me there is a point when you just take ciproflaxin regardless as long as you don't have side effects from it."It can't hurt" is what he says. Cipro is to combat bacteria not a virus. What I don't quite understand is at what point does a virus involve bacteria or does it? Ridding your body of bad bacteria will increase your chances of getting better soon right?

It's nice to know that I am not alone with this issue. I did too many drugs in my youth. I'd rather not get into Z if I don't have to. I am concerned that some day I might need these antibiotics and they may not work on me.

Any doctors in the house?

[Admin]

greetings everyone,


...later in the night, another monger told me she was only 15.i am not one to defend the actions of ****s, but in ezyngo's report the chick claimed that she was 19, and it appears that ezyngo thought she was 19, and the only "evidence" to the contrary was an unidentified third party who later offered an apparently entirely subjective opinion, to with: "another monger told me she was only 15".


i don't know if admin has seen this, but this is illegal. as far as i know, posting about **** activity is not allowed on his site.you are correct, discussing **** activity is not permitted and will usually result in an immediate ban from this site. however, some forbearance should be exercised in that i also do not permit discussions about transvestites, transsexuals or she-males, but i don't ban otherwise acceptable reports wherein the author relayed an incident in which he inadvertently experienced an encounter with a tv, ts, etc.

thanks,

jackson

[Member #4394]

since antibiotic is for bacterial, rather viral, infections, i do not think that it is effective for cold. tamiflu, which is antiviral drug, should be effective. i had an antiviral shot at a paharmacy in medellin. it made me feel better only for one day, and the next day i felt sick again.


i think the "z pack" he's referring to is azithromycin, a pretty strong antibiotic used to treat respiratory infections drugand stds. i'm another one that always seems to catch something when i travel to latin america. the smog making your insides raw, the constant exposure to chica fluids, the foreign foods, and alcohol weakening your immune system all combine to create the perfect host to a viral infection.

in fact, i just got back from mde and guess what? i'm sick with a really bad cold. this trip i tried spraying my mouth throat and nasal tract with zicam throughout the trip and especially when i got on my flights but it didn't help one bit. i even downed a couple emergen-c packets when i was there too. because i knew i was prone to getting something. happens every time.

the only thing i've experienced that has effectively fought a virus is tamiflu. a while ago, i had to stay home with my son for a week when he had influenza a and i thought for sure i was going to get it bad. but his ped gave me sample packs of tamiflu tablets to take as a prophylaxis and i got through the ordeal completely unrep001hed.

i think i might look for tamiflu tablets at the farmacia the next time i'm there. can't remember the generic name.

[Ezyngo]

Admin involvement did a tremendous job of clearing up some clouds. Some afterthoughts.

1. Except for a few, many of you completely and undoubtedly lack the 'critical thinking' skills and so quickly and prematurely jumped the gun and foolishly believed everything when a poster shared his report. When a Mayo chica told you her name was Carolina, did you believe right away that was really her name? How many times did you see a Mayo chica and believe she was old enough and then go ahead and bang her? You could be wrong right there.

2. One monger responded ' I have a teenage daughter, and I am telling you this is just a very wrong thing to do'. My immediate thought is I hope it is going to stay this way.

3. Now, Peace.

EZ

[Artisttyp]

There are fake IDs all over MDE and the DR. Unfortunately the responsibility lies on the monger. If you like cute spinner types this is something you will need to confront.

If a chica shows you a black and white ID it is usually a copy. If I remember correctly a Colombia ID has some color in it. Can anyone verify this? This might save someone a heap of trouble.

[EstebanH]

2. she said she was 19 and looked 19 or older. i was too drunk to check her cedula, which i should have. another monger told me she was only 15. i definitely will if i ever see her again in mayo on my next trip.

ezok. last comment on this. i promise. this is what was entirely missed on the post and what bothered me most: if someone tells you, right or wrong that a girl is ****, what are you going to do? take the high road and stay away. don't even go there.

i am sure enzygo is a good guy, but i (and likely most of the other readers) want to stay as far away from this crap as possible.

[LittleTruths]

There are fake IDs all over MDE and the DR. Unfortunately the responsibility lies on the monger. If you like cute spinner types this is something you will need to confront.

If a chica shows you a black and white I'd it is usually a copy. If I remember correctly a Colombia I'd has some color in it. Can anyone verify this? This might save someone a heap of trouble.Correct.

Actually, as a matter of fact, most girls working in venues such as LDV in CTG are doing so on a fake ID card. I don't know whether or not the same goes for street walkers tho, but still.

Fake IDs are a very common occurrence in Colombia.

Bless

[John Gault]

Also being warm has nothing to do with getting sick. Even a cold is a virus and if you are too weak to fight it off you'll get sick regardless of your hoody! Jeeze. No wonder you have to travel around the world for ass when there is probably some on your block. I don't live on a block but rather an estate of 62 acres and I get laid daily. In fact I just had a girl 5 minutes ago storm out of my room telling me to get off my computer. She is blonde and really hot. Thank god I wasn't born a tool!True cold weather will not make you sick, but keeping warm is vital if you do catch either a flu or a cold, so the weather does have an effect on your recovery. Very hard to stay in your room when the action is out in the cold damp air.

So you live on an estate of 62 acres and get laid daily. That is very nice for you.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

True cold weather will not make you sick, but keeping warm is vital if you do catch either a flu or a cold, so the weather does have an effect on your recovery. Very hard to stay in your room when the action is out in the cold damp air.

So you live on an estate of 62 acres and get laid daily. That is very nice for you.As far as this tool, el bacano, people like this. Besides the "who gives a fucking shit" we already know they are trolls so "no le pares bolas" "don't pay them any attention" they get a rise out of peoples responses and reactions to there useless sensationalism and diatribes. People on this site know very clearly what they are doing more than they claim or give them credit to.

As far as FAKE CEDULAS. I've never seen one personally there but my homeboy on MSN just told me you can get one but the good quality ones are very expensive Million plus and the cheapies with NO WATERMARK or holograms are 200k. (look for holograms and watermarks)

What I have seen is the "loaning out" of a cedulas. Whether the one in your chicas possession is stolen or borrowed from another girl.

[Mr Gogo]

True cold weather will not make you sick, but keeping warm is vital if you do catch either a flu or a cold, so the weather does have an effect on your recovery. Very hard to stay in your room when the action is out in the cold damp air.

So you live on an estate of 62 acres and get laid daily. That is very nice for you.Don't forget that he would take his time, to think about writing a post, when he has a hot blonde is his room storming out. Talking about having fucked up priorities.

[Midwest]

Below are excerpts from a good article at abc's website:


The cold is actually more than 200 different viruses, which is why it's hard to find a vaccine that can target all of them. With a virus called T39, which accounting for 40 percent of all colds.

You can expect up to 200 colds in your lifetime, spending as much as five years in bed.

Once exposed, a person is forever immune to it. That likely explains why children get more colds than adults.

Vacations can actually induce a cold in a phenomenon known as "leisure sickness'.

People with diverse social networks get fewer colds than those with a small circle.

Boosting the immune system can make the cold symptoms more severe, rather than shortening or preventing the life of the virus.I recommend reading the whole article:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ColdFlu/author-book-ah-choo-infects-common-cold-test/story?id=12131044

What seems to work for me whether I'm traveling or not is Zicam cold remedy oral mist,

Don't make the mistake of getting Zicam's other products like Zicam congestion relief or Zicam sinus relief, those are for when you have a full blown cold.

Time is very critical: if you use it at the first sign of a cold, you can minimize the symptoms a lot. The longer you wait, the less effective it is.

Last year I had the bad luck of catching a cold right before leaving for MDE. Other than a little cough in the morning, I was fine & mostly forgot I was battling a cold.

Once over the cold, do a quick sprits once a week, as a form of 'prevention', you never know when you pick something up until it's too late. Also, the nozzle gets clogged up if you don't use it after a while & the top doesn't come off. It's not that expensive but what if you want to use it & you're someplace where they never heard of it.

If you wait too long & get a full blown cold, may I suggest a Hot Tottie: some hot tea, a little honey and / or lemon & your favorite liquor, sweet stuff like Southern Comfort or blackberry brandy seems to go down nicer.

After a few of those you'll still have a cold but you won't give a shit, really.

(Almost makes you look forward to your next cold. Almost).


Everytime I come to Medellin, I catch cold / flu while the temparature in Medelline is higher than the temparature in my home town in general. But it gets chilly significantly in the night in Medellin. Plus, it is rainning all the time. I suspect that viruses and bacteria are very different from those in the USA Though I have flu shots before going to Medellin, they do not seem to be working. Plus, the car emission is scarcely regulated in Medellin, and the air is very poluted, which causes various infections. I would appreciate any suggestion for cold prevention in Medellin.

[Maverick77]

There are fake IDs all over MDE and the DR. Unfortunately the responsibility lies on the monger. If you like cute spinner types this is something you will need to confront.

If a chica shows you a black and white I'd it is usually a copy. If I remember correctly a Colombia I'd has some color in it. Can anyone verify this? This might save someone a heap of trouble.A new Colombian Cedula (from Jan 2010) look like this:

158741

[Artisttyp]

A new Colombian Cedula (from Jan 2010) look like this:

158741Excellent post.

Thank You

[Lmarcone]

Looking through my Fb contacts and put 2 & 2 together. It's her- LOL.

Her name's "Geraldine", right?

[World Travel 69]

Not to worry.

You only take it when you need it. When you are sick.

The time I got really sick, I had changed my flight so many times leaving B. A. I had to go home through Rio. That would have been great, but I was so sick and dizzy I could barely leave the hotel for the three days I was there.

I wish I had the Z Pac then.


If Z pack is an antibiotic then I have mixed feelings about it. Uber mongering with antibiotics just to get a sexual release doesn't appeal to me. It reminds me of a junkie shooting up in their eyelid. PARTY!

I tend to get really bad throat infections with white spots. At first glance you would say it's strep throat but the only way to tell is by having a throat culture done. I recently found out that the white spots are an immune response to your environment. Silly me because I thought for sure I had strep since I couldn't swallow well. My doctor told me there is a point when you just take ciproflaxin regardless as long as you don't have side effects from it."It can't hurt" is what he says. Cipro is to combat bacteria not a virus. What I don't quite understand is at what point does a virus involve bacteria or does it? Ridding your body of bad bacteria will increase your chances of getting better soon right?

It's nice to know that I am not alone with this issue. I did too many drugs in my youth. I'd rather not get into Z if I don't have to. I am concerned that some day I might need these antibiotics and they may not work on me.

Any doctors in the house?

[Member #3441]

2. She jumped up and down the minute I OFFERED her 30K and 'vamos', was very happy with the money. But I could not bring myself to a happy ending no matter how hard she sucked my dick so I let her go after a little over 30 mins. I usually do not repeat, but for this one, I definitely will if I ever see her again in Mayo on my next trip.

3. Price was the same as in the past even though there was a chica named Valeria from Bello who quoted me 50K on Friday night, Sept. 23, 2011. She was the first to do so to me but I firmly stood my ground at 30K and she finally settled for that. Even having said so, I did not repeat with her on subsequent encounters on the strip although every time she saw me, she asked me to 'vamos' with her.The local price for Mayorista girls is 20K, that's what the Colombianos and experienced punters pay. I was in Mayorista for a weekend last month and paid 20K. The only girl I selected was a ¨6¨ but by far the best looking girl during my 3 days (Thurs-Saturday) at Mayo. Not to my surprise she was a dead fish in the room. She just laid there, watching TV, cleaning her fingernails, counting down the minutes. Her vagina stank bad and she claimed she does not suck pija, not even a CBJ. After it was over, she did not wash or shower, and begged for a tip. How things have changed!

Of the 40 girls in Mayo. 8 out of 10 were fat. Half of them were the same old faces from 4 years ago plus 20 lbs heavier and uglier. Five years ago the price was 15K and they're were 3 times as many girls than now. Today some of the girls will charge 10K more for a CBJ, to remove her top clothing or bra, to suck her tits, etc. Some girls will lie that the standard time is 15 minutes for a session. They'll throw every trick in the book to scam you to pay more. The good ol' days are over. I won't be returning to Mayo.

[Nclpimp]

Looking through my Fb contacts and put 2 & 2 together. It's her- LOL.

Her name's "Geraldine", right?What is her last name? I have a few Geraldines.

[Todasln]

Staying in Mayorista Wednesday through Monday. Have been before but my buddy had to cancel at the last minute. So just wanted to know if anyone wants to hang. Fase Dos or just Mayorista strip. Not a big fan of the Cass. Had a fantastic time on my last trip. Possibly have a room at a nice apartment for no charge.

[Member #4244]

Can we just agree that the Mayo is a goddamn shithole and move on? Even three years ago, it fucking sucked, now it's got to be the most worthless place for mongering in the city if not the country.

Yes, the girls are ugly, yes, their hygiene is terrible, no, you're not actually saving any money, no, it's not especially fun to be around a bunch of real drunk ass dudes with blaring awful music. Does any of this sound remotely appealing to anyone? Really it's a wonder than any tourist would go there. Leave the stinky pussy in the obscure location for the locals, if you're going to pay, pay for quality. That's my main gripe, really, it's not that people are traveling or paying or not haggling. I am not going to ask someone to sacrifice his good time over $5 USD by creating tension and dwelling on price. Instead, I'd urge people to be more selective about who they take and what they put up with. Upsells, poor hygiene, bad service. Punish these things with your wallet, vote with your dollar and raise the standards of service for fuck's sake (literally!).

[Lmarcone]

What is her last name? I have a few Geraldines.If she's friends with Boyd, Greg and has pictures of herself taken@the mansion- well, it's probably her! LOL

[Cm6363]

greetings everyone,

i am not one to defend the actions of ****s, but in ezyngo's report the chick claimed that she was 19, and it appears that ezyngo thought she was 19, and the only "evidence" to the contrary was an unidentified third party who later offered an apparently entirely subjective opinion, to with: "another monger told me she was only 15".

you are correct, discussing **** activity is not permitted and will usually result in an immediate ban from this site. however, some forbearance should be exercised in that i also do not permit discussions about transvestites, transsexuals or she-males, but i don't ban otherwise acceptable reports wherein the author relayed an incident in which he inadvertently experienced an encounter with a tv, ts, etc.

thanks,

jacksongood example of why jackson runs a terrific board. good standards with an understanding of why some issues should be discussed. in addition, i had a technical problem today and he fixed it very quickly. thanks for all of the effort and an excellent website jackson.

now the only question is whether he will censor this post.

[Nclpimp]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfjw28fSVfI

Very nice

[Todasln]

I will be in Medellin on Wednesday, October 5 thru Monday, October 11. I am staying in Mayorista and may have a free room available. I don't like the Cass but love Case Dos and the Mayorista strip. My buddy had to cancel and it would be nice to have a win man.

[Todasln]

I am arriving in Medellin on October 5 and leaving on October 10. I am staying in Mayorista and my buddy was supposed to come and he had to cancel. So there is a free room available to a wingman. I do not like the ccasas but love Fase Dos and the Mayorista Strip.

[Member #4244]

Good example of why Jackson runs a terrific board. Good standards with an understanding of why some issues should be discussed. In addition, I had a technical problem today and he fixed it very quickly. Thanks for all of the effort and an excellent website Jackson.

Now the only question is whether he will censor this post.Agreed, I think the situation was handled very well.

[Arjay]

Can we just agree that the Mayo is a goddamn shithole and move on? Even three years ago, it fucking sucked, now it's got to be the most worthless place for mongering in the city if not the country.

Yes, the girls are ugly, yes, their hygiene is terrible, no, you're not actually saving any money, no, it's not especially fun to be around a bunch of real drunk ass dudes with blaring awful music. Does any of this sound remotely appealing to anyone? Really it's a wonder than any tourist would go there. Leave the stinky pussy in the obscure location for the locals, if you're going to pay, pay for quality. That's my main gripe, really, it's not that people are traveling or paying or not haggling. I am not going to ask someone to sacrifice his good time over $5 USD by creating tension and dwelling on price. Instead, I'd urge people to be more selective about who they take and what they put up with. Upsells, poor hygiene, bad service. Punish these things with your wallet, vote with your dollar and raise the standards of service for fuck's sake (literally!).I second your motion!

[Viajero]

I second your motion!Amen brother, I've been saying that all along.

[Lmarcone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfjw28fSVfI

Very nice@the 5:15 and also the 5:55 mark- wow! Very nice

[MiamiHeatLuver]

I was reading somewhere that this new member TODASIN is looking for a wingman. oh I forgot.. bless and Only good energy!

[Psychman]

Can we just agree that the Mayo is a goddamn shithole and move on? Even three years ago, it fucking sucked, now it's got to be the most worthless place for mongering in the city if not the country.

Yes, the girls are ugly, yes, their hygiene is terrible, no, you're not actually saving any money, no, it's not especially fun to be around a bunch of real drunk ass dudes with blaring awful music. Does any of this sound remotely appealing to anyone? Really it's a wonder than any tourist would go there. Leave the stinky pussy in the obscure location for the locals, if you're going to pay, pay for quality. That's my main gripe, really, it's not that people are traveling or paying or not haggling. I am not going to ask someone to sacrifice his good time over $5 USD by creating tension and dwelling on price. Instead, I'd urge people to be more selective about who they take and what they put up with. Upsells, poor hygiene, bad service. Punish these things with your wallet, vote with your dollar and raise the standards of service for fuck's sake (literally!).How about we agree to provide good factual information and impressions on about our own experiences, and not provide sweeping generalizations that seeks to stop dialogue and the providing information?

I like a night or two per trip to La Mayorista. It is not a place to go if you don't have good interviewing skills / instincts, and not speak the language well enough to be able to figure how what a chica is about (with the exception of John Gault, who has the area nailed).

Centro Clubs, High end clubs, MPs, freelancers, the Mansion- all part of a great overall scene. Provide good info and let guys make their own decisions.

[Member #4244]

How about we agree to provide good factual information and impressions on about our own experiences, and not provide sweeping generalizations that seeks to stop dialogue and the providing information?

I like a night or two per trip to La Mayorista. It is not a place to go if you don't have good interviewing skills / instincts, and not speak the language well enough to be able to figure how what a chica is about (with the exception of John Gault, who has the area nailed).

Centro Clubs, High end clubs, MPs, freelancers, the Mansion- all part of a great overall scene. Provide good info and let guys make their own decisions.OK, here are some FACTS and IMPRESSIONS from conducting "interviews" in their language:

A good night in the Mayo, a girl is going to turn seven or eight tricks. That's even more than just about any MP, plus there are not the showers and other facilities there that MPs have. By contrast, at a decent MP (say Energy or Blue Room or whatever) , girls are more like 2 or 3 guys a day if that.

Here is another fact, you're looking at 25K COP plus 14K COP for the room and 10K to 30K in cab fare. That's 50K-70K minimum for some Mayo action, plus probably little upsells there. Zero savings over any strip joint outside like Fase II. There is no real security or standards in the Mayo either.

I could continue for a while but all these things have already been laid out. I'm glad you enjoy your trips there but I'll stand by my opinion that it's fucking garbage, thanks.

[Genio Della]

Hey guys has someone tried this girl?

http://www.lindasvip.com/camila-prepagos-young-escort-masajistas-paisas-jovencitas-medellin-el-poblado-colombia.html

Let me know.

[Midwest]

Although partially correct, as with most generalizations, I can't say I agree 100.

I've stayed for one or two weeks near La Mayorista for the last 3-4 years and yes, sometimes the only girls out there look like most of the cows that populate the street scene in Tijuana (what the hell is in the water there, tacos?).

Sometimes, there are these little gems looking for quick pesos that have only heard of La Mayorista & I try to be there before they hear about CB, F2, Loutron's, etc.

If I'm not mistaken, I read the Demi Moore look-alike was spotted at La Mayo AFTER spending time at CB1.

I stop by for a drink or two there as well as Av. De Grieff (#'s 6 & 1 respectively, in 'steeet action', World Travel 69's list) to & from the casas during the day & on to F2 at night.

IMHO, La Mayo is still worth visiting on occasion, especially if you're staying nearby.


Can we just agree that the Mayo is a goddamn shithole and move on? Even three years ago, it fucking sucked, now it's got to be the most worthless place for mongering in the city if not the country.

Yes, the girls are ugly, yes, their hygiene is terrible, no, you're not actually saving any money, no, it's not especially fun to be around a bunch of real drunk ass dudes with blaring awful music. Does any of this sound remotely appealing to anyone? Really it's a wonder than any tourist would go there. Leave the stinky pussy in the obscure location for the locals, if you're going to pay, pay for quality. That's my main gripe, really, it's not that people are traveling or paying or not haggling. I am not going to ask someone to sacrifice his good time over $5 USD by creating tension and dwelling on price. Instead, I'd urge people to be more selective about who they take and what they put up with. Upsells, poor hygiene, bad service. Punish these things with your wallet, vote with your dollar and raise the standards of service for fuck's sake (literally!).

[Psychman]

OK, here are some FACTS and IMPRESSIONS from conducting "interviews" in their language:

A good night in the Mayo, a girl is going to turn seven or eight tricks. That's even more than just about any MP, plus there are not the showers and other facilities there that MPs have. By contrast, at a decent MP (say Energy or Blue Room or whatever) , girls are more like 2 or 3 guys a day if that.

Here is another fact, you're looking at 25K COP plus 14K COP for the room and 10K to 30K in cab fare. That's 50K-70K minimum for some Mayo action, plus probably little upsells there. Zero savings over any strip joint outside like Fase II. There is no real security or standards in the Mayo either.

I could continue for a while but all these things have already been laid out. I'm glad you enjoy your trips there but I'll stand by my opinion that it's fucking garbage, thanks.Got to love your tone- do you try or does that come naturally? Would love to hear what your Spanish really sounds like. Can't wait to hear your response!

I don't love La Mayorista, but it is a fun change of pace. I don't use the short term hotels, but have found several girls for TLN- each gladly accepted 100K. Three were totally GFE / PSE mix. One was indeed too high and far too much of a partier- sex was average at best.

I also do prefer the MPs, and really have enjoyed amazing sessions in MDE in MPs, and with MP chicas in apartements or hotels.

Some people like to hang in areas outside Poblado- some do not. I don't begrudge anyone their style. Perhaps you are too good to have a bowl of Sancocho or Bandeja in one of the eateries along the drag in La Mayorista; perhaps it is too much of a garbage dump for you. Too each his own. All I know is that I have had some great times in similar places throughout Latin America, just as I have had great times in places like Poblado.

La Majorista can be a bit unsafe at times, so guys want to watch their asses. I do suggest safely checking it out, as with El Centro Strip clubs, MPs around town, High end Strip Clubs, CB 1 and CB2. Enjoy it all.

K

[Viajero]

Where the f-k is New Life! I walked all over fu-ing Centro and couldn't find it. Not only the fking weather is bad in Medellin, but also finding an address is too frustrating and good luck if you can find anything you maybe looking for.

[Viajero]

Guys,

Thank God Pussy is for sure getting cheaper now, the Dollar equal to 1984 Colombian Pesos. So go bang as many Paisitas as your dick can afford to stay stiff.

[Member #4394]

True that MP is cheaper than Mayorista. I like MPs, because they are cheap, no rip-offs, and business-like. I also like Mayorista WHEN I STAY AT A HOTEL IN MAYO. In Mayo, I can have more-personal and intimate relationships with the girls. Some girls stayed in my room for 2-3 hours and / or offered sexo sin condon for 25k pesos. One girl cooked lunch and brought it to my hotel. One Mayo girl came to Cartagena on her expense after I left Medellin for Cartagena. These things could not happen at MPs. You can have some GFEs with Mayo girls. Mayorista could be a little better than garbage.


OK, here are some FACTS and IMPRESSIONS from conducting "interviews" in their language:

A good night in the Mayo, a girl is going to turn seven or eight tricks. That's even more than just about any MP, plus there are not the showers and other facilities there that MPs have. By contrast, at a decent MP (say Energy or Blue Room or whatever) , girls are more like 2 or 3 guys a day if that.

Here is another fact, you're looking at 25K COP plus 14K COP for the room and 10K to 30K in cab fare. That's 50K-70K minimum for some Mayo action, plus probably little upsells there. Zero savings over any strip joint outside like Fase II. There is no real security or standards in the Mayo either.

I could continue for a while but all these things have already been laid out. I'm glad you enjoy your trips there but I'll stand by my opinion that it's fucking garbage, thanks.

[Member #4244]

First off, @Viajero, look at the address on the list and go there. If you cannot find it, ask someone. There are one or two old timers in the street offering directions to the various casas in that area generally, for a quick question I doubt they will even ask for a tip. Breathe easy, you will find it.

@Matt, I stayed near there once and I didn't mess with it, really turned me off then. I went twice recently looking for someone in particular, did not find her, this time there was more selection but none of it great. Probably I have been a dozen times total, including the stay there, it's just not for me.

You can find GFE and sin condon anywhere. Far be it from me to judge, I've taken some risks, but I would not go with a girl there sin condon. Experienced people who first put me on to a lot of things in MDE concurred. Hopefully you can trust the girls, it's your risk, but like I said personally I find you can get GFE and BB in lugares mas confiables.


Got to love your tone- do you try or does that come naturally? Would love to hear what your Spanish really sounds like. Can't wait to hear your response!

I don't love La Mayorista, but it is a fun change of pace. I don't use the short term hotels, but have found several girls for TLN- each gladly accepted 100K. Three were totally GFE / PSE mix. One was indeed too high and far too much of a partier- sex was average at best.

I also do prefer the MPs, and really have enjoyed amazing sessions in MDE in MPs, and with MP chicas in apartements or hotels.

Some people like to hang in areas outside Poblado- some do not. I don't begrudge anyone their style. Perhaps you are too good to have a bowl of Sancocho or Bandeja in one of the eateries along the drag in La Mayorista; perhaps it is too much of a garbage dump for you. Too each his own. All I know is that I have had some great times in similar places throughout Latin America, just as I have had great times in places like Poblado.

La Majorista can be a bit unsafe at times, so guys want to watch their asses. I do suggest safely checking it out, as with El Centro Strip clubs, MPs around town, High end Strip Clubs, CB 1 and CB2. Enjoy it all.

KI am not sure what to make of the tone / Spanish comment. I speak somewhere between intermediate and fluent Spanish, I can hold a conversation with anyone of any length (except some costenos, their accents are tough). Perhaps some day we will chat.

I stayed at Frank's above the Mayo once. I ate there every day, pechua de pollo con arroz, platanos, frijoles why gaseosa por 4K COP. I have stayed with friends in strata 2 neighborhoods in Bello and very simple pueblos like La Ceja. I am not a snob, I just want to have a good time and to me the Mayo is not that. I am sure I have pissed some people with my comments, they are just as entitled to their opinions and convictions as I am.

I have never felt unsafe at the Mayo, just unpleasant. It is good advice to stay aware of your surroundings though.

[Pirata2011]

There are Prepagos but of courses some are very profecionals, who seems be to innocent. The last one I met was DAYANA FORY, a fashion model. I think she has been denied VISA. She wants do everyting right every aspect, even if her future husband could be older than her father etc.

Viviana Pretty (Andrea).

Alejandra Montoya.

They will then cry over the vast bills they gets every months (even though their apartments is owned by her grandma (1a nivel prepago) or exclisive service paysthe rent 1-2 / week.

Cordialemente Mathias H

[Pirata2011]

Fellow mongers, I can not strongly enough warn you for the these the top level prepagos who cooperate with corrupt Police / DAS. They are intelligente. They have solid cover-up story and takes fropm your assets, which can leave no traces. They get away with quickly. Leaving no evidende. The pregago walkes some blocks and then take a cab, changes and they get in to a club (Where her friends greets her and she invites them to Agua ariende, o suberb Tequila!)

THIS IS A WARNING. EQUAL TO BEING ROBBED BY A TAXIDRIVER. Or even worse since Police / DAS will already have written their report.

[Member #3441]

OK, here are some FACTS and IMPRESSIONS from conducting "interviews" in their language:

A good night in the Mayo, a girl is going to turn seven or eight tricks. That's even more than just about any MP, plus there are not the showers and other facilities there that MPs have. By contrast, at a decent MP (say Energy or Blue Room or whatever) , girls are more like 2 or 3 guys a day if that.

Here is another fact, you're looking at 25K COP plus 14K COP for the room and 10K to 30K in cab fare. That's 50K-70K minimum for some Mayo action, plus probably little upsells there. Zero savings over any strip joint outside like Fase II. There is no real security or standards in the Mayo either.

I could continue for a while but all these things have already been laid out. I'm glad you enjoy your trips there but I'll stand by my opinion that it's fucking garbage, thanks.Thanks for your facts and impressions. Also, most street girls are drug addicts (coke, crack, meth, weed, glue, etc.) or alcoholics, and you have to constantly keep an eye on them as they will try to steal something from you when you're not looking (e. G. When in the room, when you're taking a shower, etc)


If I'm not mistaken, I read the Demi Moore look-alike was spotted at La Mayo AFTER spending time at CB1.

I stop by for a drink or two there as well as Av. De Grieff (#'s 6 & 1 respectively, in 'steeet action', World Travel 69's list).I met ¨Demi¨ four years ago at Mayo before she became infamous. She had pale white skin, flat chest, short legs, not much of an ass. Today she looks like old trailer park trash.

Hard to say which area has the uglier, fatter street girls, Mayo or Centro (Av. De Grieff, Cra53). I think it's a tie.


True that MP is cheaper than Mayorista. I like MPs, because they are cheap, no rip-offs, and business-like. I also like Mayorista WHEN I STAY AT A HOTEL IN MAYO.When I stayed overnight at a hotel in the middle of the Mayo strip last month the hotel told me there was an additional fee I had to pay for every girl I take to my room. In previous years that was never the case.


How about we agree to provide good factual information and impressions on about our own experiences, and not provide sweeping generalizations that seeks to stop dialogue and the providing information?I agree

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Fellow mongers, I can not strongly enough warn you for the these the top level prepagos who cooperate with corrupt Police / DAS. They are intelligente. They have solid cover-up story and takes fropm your assets, which can leave no traces. They get away with quickly. Leaving no evidende. The pregago walkes some blocks and then take a cab, changes and they get in to a club (Where her friends greets her and she invites them to Agua ariende, o suberb Tequila!)

THIS IS A WARNING. EQUAL TO BEING ROBBED BY A TAXIDRIVER. Or even worse since Police / DAS will already have written their report.How did they conspire with the DAS or Police to take what you have in house and then go to a club and drink Tequila? You just can't blurt out a JFK style conspiracy without elaborating.

[World Travel 69]

This May Help.


Where the f-k is New Life! I walked all over fu-ing Centro and couldn't find it. Not only the fking weather is bad in Medellin, but also finding an address is too frustrating and good luck if you can find anything you maybe looking for.

[El Bacano]

Demi is a free spirited girl easy to negotiate with, very nice looking, any one who has actually been with her for real, I have never heard a negative report, on the streets or in the Mansion she allways advised me and tried to help out with the other girls, I nevered considered her, till one night she was being so nice, never asked for anything I figured I try her, I did not regret it, A GFE from start to finish, Just some advice for noobs, if you act like a client you will be a client, if you act like a Bf you will be a bf, if you act like the Man, you are the Man.

[Sansgonzales7]

Hey fellow mongers, I was wondering if you guys could help me out with some contacts for chicas as I have a place in El Poblado that I would like to utilize. Me and two friends will be here for 6 days. I would appreciate any tips, advice, help!

[Colbrotha]

If you act like a client you will be a client, if you act like a Bf you will be a bf, if you act like the Man, you are the Man.Damn, you came out of left field with that one but I agree 100. If you like a chump, you get treated like a chump. If you act scary, you're going to get robbed! UNIVERSAL TRUTHS.

Peace

[Artisttyp]

This May Help.It used to be located right across the street from "Parque Periodista" Where all the kids get stoned. Try asking a young person to show you how to get there.

Finding a place can be confusing. Totally understand. Eventually you will remember by sight and feel which is a lot easier. MDE is based on a grid system but not your typical ABC format like NYC.


*** If you find Parque Periodista you WILL be able to find several other casas. It is a great starting place for anybody.

[Maverick77]

OK, here are some FACTS and IMPRESSIONS from conducting "interviews" in their language:

A good night in the Mayo, a girl is going to turn seven or eight tricks. That's even more than just about any MP, plus there are not the showers and other facilities there that MPs have. By contrast, at a decent MP (say Energy or Blue Room or whatever) , girls are more like 2 or 3 guys a day if that.

Here is another fact, you're looking at 25K COP plus 14K COP for the room and 10K to 30K in cab fare. That's 50K-70K minimum for some Mayo action, plus probably little upsells there. Zero savings over any strip joint outside like Fase II. There is no real security or standards in the Mayo either.

I could continue for a while but all these things have already been laid out. I'm glad you enjoy your trips there but I'll stand by my opinion that it's fucking garbage, thanks.How many Mayo and MP "interviews" did you conduct?

[Ezyngo]

When I stayed overnight at a hotel in the middle of the Mayo strip last month the hotel told me there was an additional fee I had to pay for every girl I take to my room. In previous years that was never the case.Please PM me for the name of this hotel.

Thanks.

[Member #4244]

Hey fellow mongers, I was wondering if you guys could help me out with some contacts for chicas as I have a place in El Poblado that I would like to utilize. Me and two friends will be here for 6 days. I would appreciate any tips, advice, help!Inbox me if you want some info, I will not post pics or numbers in the forum generally but can make some suggestions.

[Ezyngo]

I went twice recently looking for someone in particular, did not find her, .

I have never felt unsafe at the Mayo, just unpleasant. It is good advice to stay aware of your surroundings though.I know who was that someone you were talking about. I saw her the first night at Mayo on my last trip. She looked stunning and beautiful in a green and flowery dress. She had to be the most beautiful girl there that night, IMHO.

On a side note, I brought some personal hygiene products with me and stayed in a hotel here. STOLEN were a 12-oz Scope Mouth Wash and a 4-oz Vaseline Intensive Care Hand Lotion. I had 5 or 6 SWs in my room, some with handbags, and also 2 non-pros with 2 very large handbags. So I could not really tell who took them. The lost items disappeared towards the end of the trip and they're not worth that much but I would subsequently be wary of the chicas who come to my room with any handbag. First time for me.

[Member #3441]

demi is a free spirited girl easy to negotiate with.in my book, negotiating for every item of service, extras, price add-ons preclude a real gfe. beauty is highly subjective and relative. like the saying goes: one man's trash is another man's treasure. i'm used to girls who are more attractive than ¨demi¨ (geraldine) and girls who provide better service without the upsell and negotiations. if you like g, hey that's fine.


everytime i come to medellin, i catch cold / flu while the temparature in medelline is higher than the temparature in my home town in general. but it gets chilly significantly in the night in medellin. plus, it is rainning all the time. i suspect that viruses and bacteria are very different from those in the usa though i have flu shots before going to medellin, they do not seem to be working. plus, the car emission is scarcely regulated in medellin, and the air is very poluted, which causes various infections. i would appreciate any suggestion for cold prevention in medellin.the city needs to replace all those old buses and trucks. the fact that medellin is landlocked between two converging mountain ranges which form the aburra valley aggravates the polluted air quality. the smog just sits there in the valley without any wind to blow it away.


i flew home early wednesday morning, sept. 28, 2011 with a flu. i think i caught it the day earlier in el centro while walking and window shopping. i totally put the blame on way too much rain in mde and the difference in climate between it and so. california.¨la ciudad de la eternal primavera¨ or the ¨city of eternal spring¨ is false advertising. it rains 7 months a year! but i somewhat like the rain because it washes away the filth on the street and the [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) stained sidewalks, and the thousands of homeless people and dirty beggars in centro. did you notice almost of them carry a weapon (knife, blade, shank, club, stick with sharpened end, etc.). few years ago there was a huge display of the thousands of these confirep001ed weapons at parque bolivar in front of the police substation.

[SuperSteve]

FACT: We were in Mayorista and three ladies were sitting at the table next to us. I invited them over for a drink and they moved. One soon left. The two that were remaining; a VGL lady (probably 25-30, but hot) , and a young one just turned 18 sitting beside her, holding on to her leg. It was like the older one was showing the young thing the ropes. The were both dressed very well. After a while my friend asks them to go back to his room and they agree. He pays them a total of $160, 000 COP. They stay for 2. 5 hours in his room of what he says was fabulous sex. They were into each other and him also. They actually looked like they could have worked at Fase Dos by the way they were dressed, and looked.

Is this the norm, probably not, but I don't think it is that rare either. Women who have not made money earlier in the night stop by to see what they can find.

The biggest problem that I see with Mayorista is the age of many of the girls. Several times I have talked to VGL young ladies that would not produce a cedula before going to the room. They all said I will show you when we get up there, yeah right.

Mayorista is certainly not for everyone. It is a little rough around the edges. It reminds me of some parts of Tijuana. I am in Tijuana at least twice a month. With women coming from all over Mexico to work there are very diverse looking women, and some very, very, hot women. Someone else mentioned that the girls of Mayorista were like the SG's in Tijuana. IMO, that person has not been to Tijuana in a while. There are many very hot SG's in Tijuana now. If you have seen the cartoon about negotiating with a SG, it is very funny, and very true.

I will be back in MDE in November and look forward to my travels to many parts of MDE, including Mayorista.

Health & happiness to all.

[Mr Gogo]

Hey fellow mongers, I was wondering if you guys could help me out with some contacts for chicas as I have a place in El Poblado that I would like to utilize. Me and two friends will be here for 6 days. I would appreciate any tips, advice, help!I also stay in El Poblado and Envigado when I'm there. I usually go to the strip clubs and meet chics, exchange numbers, then invite them the next day for an afternoon delight before they go to work. Plus the strip clubs have rooms in the back if you want to do a trial run.

A few years ago, the building supers were cracking down on mongerers staying there. The residents were saying we were hurting their investments. This was happening mainly in El Pablado. So the building supers were requesting a minimum week stay to crack down on the weekend mongerers. I was told by the rental company to be on best behavior. No orgys, no slutty looking tricks, and no parties. This was funny because the building maid had a girl doing tricks if I wanted. I haven't heard much about this lately, so I guess most guys stay at the mansion. I'm just saying be discreet because you are being watched.

El Poblado is very hilly, but its near Parque Illeras. Envigo is not as chic and less hilly. Also walk the girl up and then walk the girl out so you won't be blamed if some chica is running around the building sola.

[Member #3441]

FACT: We were in Mayorista and three ladies were sitting at the table next to us. I invited them over for a drink and they moved. One soon left. The two that were remaining; a VGL lady (probably 25-30, but hot). My friend pays them a total of $160, 000 COP. They stay for 2. 5 hours in his room. They actually looked like they could have worked at Fase Dos by the way they were dressed, and looked.

Mayorista is certainly not for everyone. It is a little rough around the edges. It reminds me of some parts of Tijuana. I am in Tijuana at least twice a month. With women coming from all over Mexico to work there are very diverse looking women, and some very, very, hot women. Someone else mentioned that the girls of Mayorista were like the SG's in Tijuana. IMO, that person has not been to Tijuana in a while. There are many very hot SG's in Tijuana now. If you have seen the cartoon about negotiating with a SG, it is very funny, and very true.Fase2 no longer carries the same status. Six years ago. 1 out of 5 Fase2 girls looked nice (to me). Three years ago it was 1 out of 10. Now it's only 1 out of 20.

Before Medellin was gringo town, Mayo girls would TLN (spend all night) with me for 50K, and that was when Mayo actually had pretty girls. 30year-old ladies are too old for me. Nevertheless, I'm happy your friend enjoyed them.

I agree Tijuana has lots of hotties, many more than Medellin. I fucked many models from all over the country in Tijuana where there are 700 club girls and another 600 street girls in a small, concentrated 4-block area, easy to walk to all places. Tijuana has a much more party-like, wild fun atmosphere. My next trip is to Tijuana.


First night went to Faces Dos around 8:30 pm and the girls were eating dinner of rice and beans provided by the establishment. I saw a relatively fresh 21 year old girl, a little chubby in the waist and hips and crooked teeth, but doable, and plunked down my money. Had to pay 5K more for condom. Nothing exciting about the sex.Rice and beans! LOL! They should feed them salad instead.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Fase2 no longer carries the same status. Six years ago. 1 out of 5 Fase2 girls looked nice (to me). Three years ago it was 1 out of 10. Now it's only 1 out of 20.

Before Medellin was gringo town, Mayo girls would TLN (spend all night) with me for 50K, and that was when Mayo actually had pretty girls. 30year-old ladies are too old for me. Nevertheless, I'm happy your friend enjoyed them.

I agree Tijuana has lots of hotties, many more than Medellin. I fucked many models from all over the country in Tijuana where there are 700 club girls and another 600 street girls in a small, concentrated 4-block area, easy to walk to all places. Tijuana has a much more party-like, wild fun atmosphere. My next trip is to Tijuana.

Rice and beans! LOL! They should feed them salad instead.Jaxon while I respect your mostly spot on opinions of the current situation in MDE. It sucks and those of us who have been going there 6 years plus know this, but you are not reinventing the wheel. With the onset of social media, things and places get exploited very quickly. Gringo influx in this hobby is NEVER GOOD. A watering down of talent, gringos overpaying, prices rising is always the unfortunate outcome. That and along with the Colombian economy stable and improving will always sacrifice the hottest prepagos out of the game first.

So whats a concerned monger to do? Keep your mouth shut if you find some place or someone new. I don't know how long you've been following this forum or which # handle this might be for you but if you've been around you will notice many many prior member posters who do NOT post on here anymore.

One thing I can guarantee you though is that I still have my places and chicas who are humble and will gladly accept 60k-80k for an honest TLN (no not go home with you at 4am and leave at 8am) and give me many thanks for doing so. Live and Learn!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

went to this place yesterday about 3pm. was shown about 6-7 girls. 3 of them doable, one of them, milena. 26 years old, supposedly one month in the business, very nice, could have worked at phase dos (i asked her why she didn't work there; she said she liked being with her friends there). confirmed the prices (32k for 30 minutes. 42k for 45 minutes, and 52k for an hour. asked if i went for the 30 minutes and wanted to extend, could i just pay the difference between the two rates and was told yes. chose milena and went to the room. asked if the sheets could be changed and she did. took a shower and started the action. cbj (nice) and ball sucking, then sex in various positions. the knock came at about 30 minutes so i asked her if she wanted to stay longer. she said up to you so i said let's extend for another 15 minutes. she tells the woman in charge and is told that it will be 20k for 20 minutes. i told her that was not what was agreed on. after some haggling, we agreed to 20k for another half hour. we went at it again and finished in the allotted time. nice girl and good service- took a pounding without complaint. got dressed, gave her a tip (10k which covered the beer she had asked for) , was given a kiss, and asked to come back and see her.

about 50 yards from the casa, i was accosted by someone who flashed a police badge and said i had to come with him to police station because i had been with an **** girl. i told him that was not true, she was 26 years old. he went on about how i would be arrested and held in jail for 72 hours and then deported. i told him let's go back to the place so she could show him her cedula and started to walk back to the casa. he said no, we had to go to the police station because i was in a house where they had an **** girl. i told him i didn't see any **** girl, and how was i to know if they had one. according to him, it was a crime to be in there, even if i didn't know. (during our discussion, he was talking into a microphone with what was presumably the police station.) we started walking to the police station, with him telling me that he could help me but not once we reached the police station. on the off-chance that he was for real, i decided to give him 5k to get rid of him. i took out my cash and couldn't find a 5k bill. i told him i didn't have a 5k note so lets go to the police station. he then asked me if that was all i was going to give him. i said yes. apparently, he was insulted at the offer and took out his wallet to show me it was filled with 50k notes. (apparently the shakedown business is doing well). he then told me to not go there again and he let me go.

i don't know if he was a real (bad) cop or someone with a fake badge, but it seemed evident that he did not want to take me to the police station, presumably because it was a bullshit charge. however, it was unsettling enough to make me reconsider going back to the place, although i would have liked to see milena again.

[Hillbilly69]

about 50 yards from the casa, i was accosted by someone who flashed a police badge and said i had to come with him to police station because i had been with an **** girl. i told him that was not true, she was 26 years old.to my knowledge they have to actually catch you having sex or in the act to be guilty, if someone else knows different please correct me. so pretty sure i would have told him to fuck off in those words.

[Member #4394]

Are you sure that gringo influx is really a major cause of the price increase and decline of chica quality? The fact that two things happened at the same time does not necessarily mean that one caused the other. When the sales of ice cream increases, the sales of beer increases, because the both are influenced by the temparature. The former does not cause the latter. Could it be the case that the economic growth and increased security in Medellin increased the amount of gringo travellers and reduced the size of sex workers, which decreased their quality?


Gringo influx in this hobby is NEVER GOOD. A watering down of talent, gringos overpaying, prices rising is always the unfortunate outcome. !

[SlamCity7777]

Very good point MP. What I noticed and have been told by some of my favorita prepagos is that going abroad to earn USD is the way to go. Same job, way better pay, a bit of a struggle for my family but it's only for 3-6 months. Why make $120K a night pounding the pavement at Mayo when you can work in Panama, Costa Rica, Aruba, Peru and Ecuador and make $200-$300 per pop! 3 x a night= $900 more or less x 6 days a week x 30 x 3. 6 months equals REAL MONEY!

They can now come home and can now afford to buy the kids a Wii, flat screen, buy a car, start a business, go to school. WE need to make immigration harder for las chicas! Keep them in country, stupid, poor, and grateful for a good tip!

[Manizales911]

went to this place yesterday about 3pm. was shown about 6-7 girls. 3 of them doable, one of them, milena. 26 years old, supposedly one month in the business, very nice, could have worked at phase dos (i asked her why she didn't work there; she said she liked being with her friends there). confirmed the prices (32k for 30 minutes. 42k for 45 minutes, and 52k for an hour. asked if i went for the 30 minutes and wanted to extend, could i just pay the difference between the two rates and was told yes. chose milena and went to the room. asked if the sheets could be changed and she did. took a shower and started the action. cbj (nice) and ball sucking, then sex in various positions. the knock came at about 30 minutes so i asked her if she wanted to stay longer. she said up to you so i said let's extend for another 15 minutes. she tells the woman in charge and is told that it will be 20k for 20 minutes. i told her that was not what was agreed on. after some haggling, we agreed to 20k for another half hour. we went at it again and finished in the allotted time. nice girl and good service- took a pounding without complaint. got dressed, gave her a tip (10k which covered the beer she had asked for) , was given a kiss, and asked to come back and see her.

about 50 yards from the casa, i was accosted by someone who flashed a police badge and said i had to come with him to police station because i had been with an **** girl. i told him that was not true, she was 26 years old. he went on about how i would be arrested and held in jail for 72 hours and then deported. i told him let's go back to the place so she could show him her cedula and started to walk back to the casa. he said no, we had to go to the police station because i was in a house where they had an **** girl. i told him i didn't see any **** girl, and how was i to know if they had one. according to him, it was a crime to be in there, even if i didn't know. (during our discussion, he was talking into a microphone with what was presumably the police station.) we started walking to the police station, with him telling me that he could help me but not once we reached the police station. on the off-chance that he was for real, i decided to give him 5k to get rid of him. i took out my cash and couldn't find a 5k bill. i told him i didn't have a 5k note so lets go to the police station. he then asked me if that was all i was going to give him. i said yes. apparently, he was insulted at the offer and took out his wallet to show me it was filled with 50k notes. (apparently the shakedown business is doing well). he then told me to not go there again and he let me go.

i don't know if he was a real (bad) cop or someone with a fake badge, but it seemed evident that he did not want to take me to the police station, presumably because it was a bullshit charge. however, it was unsettling enough to make me reconsider going back to the place, although i would have liked to see milena again.almost for sure he was not a cop. familiarize yourself with what the real cops and military wear for footwear then when you are approached by what appears to be a fake look down and see what they are wearing for shoes, a dead giveaway every time.

if you want to go back there and don't want to get hassled again take a taxi.

[SlamCity7777]

Almost for sure he was NOT a cop. Familiarize yourself with what the real cops and military wear for footwear then when you are approached by what appears to be a fake look down and see what they are wearing for shoes, a dead giveaway every time.

If you want to go back there and don't want to get hassled again take a taxi.I was just thinking the same thing. Shoes and the shave are my clues. What would a Detective in Colombia care if some gringo was with a young girl? He'd be too busy with REAL crime in Colombia. Military too.

My tip; If you have decent Spanish skills say something more or less like this "Please! A guy in a better suite just tried the same trick on me." or "Come on! I used to live in ____ and they tried to pull the same scam; move on!"

Doesn't matter what you say; it's how you say it!

[Ricker]

Jaxon while I respect your mostly spot on opinions of the current situation in MDE. It sucks and those of us who have been going there 6 years plus know this, but you are not reinventing the wheel. With the onset of social media, things and places get exploited very quickly. Gringo influx in this hobby is NEVER GOOD. A watering down of talent, gringos overpaying, prices rising is always the unfortunate outcome. That and along with the Colombian economy stable and improving will always sacrifice the hottest prepagos out of the game first.

So whats a concerned monger to do? Keep your mouth shut if you find some place or someone new. I don't know how long you've been following this forum or which # handle this might be for you but if you've been around you will notice many many prior member posters who do NOT post on here anymore.

One thing I can guarantee you though is that I still have my places and chicas who are humble and will gladly accept 60k-80k for an honest TLN (no not go home with you at 4am and leave at 8am) and give me many thanks for doing so. Live and Learn!Right on Heat, hard to argue with your assesment.

[John Gault]

This past trip to MDE I did more TLN than usual. An old hand who stayed across the hall from me noticed this, and said to me " you know you are paying them to sleep "

I wondered how I had not realized this. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. I think in the future the only TLN's will be if I wife up for more than one day.

I see quite a few reports on Mayorista lately. It is funny how there are such different opinions on the merits of this area when in the other aspects of MDE there is more of an agreement in service that is to be had. At the Mansion it is almost agreed that for most guys it is a good experence. Also casa's like New Life, and strip clubs like Fase Dos all have the same type of reports. I wonder why the Mayo has such a strong reaction from ( pro or con) most Mongers?

[Artisttyp]

Right on Heat, hard to argue with your assesment.I was going to pour my heart out into a long well thought out rant but I just don't have it in me. Why? I have been spending hours and hours lately researching affordable pfp opportunities still available in Latin America. You don't want to see the results trust me.

If MDE goes down the tubes there will be panic in the LA monger world. At least for guys on a budget. Get your yankee hats on and head to sosua!

I for one don't have many choices left for what I like to do. Hoping and praying for a revolution somewhere.

[John Gault]

I was going to pour my heart out into a long well thought out rant but I just don't have it in me. Why? I have been spending hours and hours lately researching affordable pfp opportunities still available in Latin America. You don't want to see the results trust me.

If MDE goes down the tubes there will be panic in the LA monger world. At least for guys on a budget. Get your yankee hats on and head to sosua!

I for one don't have many choices left for what I like to do. Hoping and praying for a revolution somewhere.Many years ago there was great P4P in my hometown. Myself, and 3 or 4 other guys had girls that we shared, and when a new one came along we would spread the word to each other. I got married, and was out of action till quite a few years went by, and I returned to try to monger again in my hometown. It was a barren waste land. The only thing out there was ugly crack hoes. When the pickens were good, the job situation was good with most people having jobs. Now that a lot of people are out of work, and times are getting tough in the USA you would think P4P would be OK.

As far as the guys in LA, they can still go to Tijuana. Sure the girls are more expensive than MDE, but the cost of the airfare to MDE more than makes up for that.

I like Sosua a lot (Classico) , but the girls as a rule are not as bonita as in Colombia, and because of the fine beach it makes for lodging, P4P, and food to be more costly.

[Dickhead]

In addition to financial considerations, doing TLN increases your risk profile considerably, JG. Artie boy, one thing you got to realize is that the places that are going to pop up in your research will tend to be the more expensive ones by the very nature of the research process. You might have to go to places way off the beaten path, like Guatemala.

Oh, wait a minute. You did. So you want cheaper than that? I read where Alabama just passed a really strict immigration law and they were talking about how all the illegal immigrants in this one trailer park were afraid to go to work or leave the house during the day. I see some potential there as desperation increases. Now México could have a revolution pretty soon but I think the drug boys will win and will probably come to control all the pussy and prices will actually go UP.

It is for sure a dilemma for the budget monger. Paraguay was a decent value but it costs a shit load to get there from the US. Chile could collapse pretty soon, I think, or you could try that area in Argentina that got fucked over by the volcanic ash, Villa La Angostura, which was very nice and pretty cheap before that happened. All the tourism is gone so supply should exceed demand by quite a wide margin.

Or go to the Motel Six Suites in Albuquerque, NM. Place was full of hoes when I was there for a night in January. $29 a night for the room if you pay by the week, full kitchen, pots and pans, etc. I was on my way back from Costa Rica so was not too interested but they had a couple of decent looking Latinas there. I was quoted $50 for TLN,"my place or yours," and $20 for a quick pop. I will be there around New Year's for a week before I head to my next job and will report. High probability of drug addiction, though.

I am unemployed now and it will be a total of 4 1/2 months out of work (then another month to get paid) so I will start a "Budget Mongering" thread in the Special Interests section.

Upon further review, there is a Prices thread so let's use that.

[Artisttyp]

Artie boy, one thing you got to realize is that the places that are going to pop up in your research will tend to be the more expensive ones by the very nature of the research process. You might have to go to places way off the beaten path, like Guatemala.

I will start a "Budget Mongering" thread in the Special Interests section.I already know that this will be a good thread once you start it. At least I will have someplace formal to ***** about my financial woes.

Guatemala was great for 3 weeks last December but when I went back in Feb it had run it's course for me. You get what you pay for. If I had to go through another 3 weeks of Guate again I might consider a noose. Everything besides a few bars and a McDonalds close at 7pm. It drove me nuts. I can't and won't torture myself like that for pfp. Maybe for 1 week eventually. Same goes for San Salvador and all the other CA operations.

New Mexico and all those southwest border areas excite me but knowledge is key and I assume not easy to obtain for an outsider. If things weren't so bad in Laredo I would be checking out that entire texas border region. Just too bad.

Quito Bogota La Paz = Altitude issues. Never again! I never recovered fully even after 3 weeks in Quito. When I came my heart felt like it was cumming out of my chest. That was way too scary for me.

I want Lima or BA 5 years ago. Those were the best days for me hands down. You are correct when you say pfp is available out west. Actually if you look at escort reviews middle america is doing quiet well in that department. However in NYC pfp is a BS scam up sells lazy hags gringa mentality. A quick romp to Montreal would be a better option perhaps@180 US per hr. For beautiful white meat. Unheard of in NYC. Thank you Greyhound for $73 one way tickets to Montreal. Now to find an affordable hotel with heat.

I will take it trip by trip at this point. I cannot plan too far ahead these days. Tijuana is my default location. More of my money and effort has gone to Tijuana these past 2 years and I still haven't done a bargirl. The party vibe and great food keeps me happy. Every now and then a meth head will eat *my ass for $20. Life is not bad for me down there as long as I have a valid prescription and I don't reek of alcohol.

Johnny:

There should be something for you but maybe not in your price range. You should try to investigate more.

[Psychman]

This past trip to MDE I did more TLN than usual. An old hand who stayed across the hall from me noticed this, and said to me " you know you are paying them to sleep "

I wondered how I had not realized this. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. I think in the future the only TLN's will be if I wife up for more than one day.

I see quite a few reports on Mayorista lately. It is funny how there are such different opinions on the merits of this area when in the other aspects of MDE there is more of an agreement in service that is to be had. At the Mansion it is almost agreed that for most guys it is a good experence. Also casa's like New Life, and strip clubs like Fase Dos all have the same type of reports. I wonder why the Mayo has such a strong reaction from (pro or con) most Mongers?Going to disagree with you and your "old hand" on this one good buddy. TLN does not pay them to sleep, it pays them to leave on YOUR time clock, not on theirs. In the long run, it is far cheaper. TLN often runs about 30-40 percent more than an hour or two in most places I have been. If I start off a TLN at 9am, have one session, another at midnight or after, and then one in the morning, the price per nut is FAR cheaper. Also, for 20 or 30 bucks extra (max) I am in control of when the session ends. If I do that 5 times over the course of one week, that that 100 bucks is a very small percentage of my total trip cost, counting airfare into the equation.

Most importantly, for me, I get sick of them, I send them home when I want, as opposed to them being in control of time. If I have a all night fuck fest I will spend far less on chicas during the day. If I get sick of them in a few hours, then I can send them home, but I am the one deciding how often we will fuck and how many times. I like to take the pressure off and just enjoy myself. Also, for me, a TLN is more likely to be more intensly GFE and a shorter session. Of course, YMMV. Some guys get board with chicas for more than an hour or two- I usually find a way to entertain myself.

[Dickhead]

Guate sounds like Paraguay. But I bet the gals in Paraguay are better looking on average. But it is a fuck of a lot farther. On that altitude stuff, maybe quit smoking? I had no significant altitude issues. Isn't Medellín like 4500 feet? I like a lot of things about Quito but the mongering is like a C minus. OTOH sitting in SP beating your meat is a D minus. Kinda confused; are you in New York or Los Angeles?

When I spent five weeks in Medellín in 2007 I hoped the city would be as interesting as Bogotá and the pussy would be as good as Buenos Aires. Instead I thought the city was as good as Peoria (but with better weather) and the pussy was as good as the Moonlight Bunny Ranch (but cheaper). I thought it would be about as dangerous as Buenos Aires or Bogotá but instead it was like being in the middle of a drug war in Cuidad Juarez.

Anyway, let us not derail the thread. I will PM you with some stuff and I have tried to re-ignite the Price thread. Also the Yankees lost and I would say, conservatively, fuck them and the donkey they rode in on. I grew up in Pissport Connecticut so I can say that stuff.

[Todasln]

Going to disagree with you and your "old hand" on this one good buddy. TLN does not pay them to sleep, it pays them to leave on YOUR time clock, not on theirs. In the long run, it is far cheaper. TLN often runs about 30-40 percent more than an hour or two in most places I have been. If I start off a TLN at 9am, have one session, another at midnight or after, and then one in the morning, the price per nut is FAR cheaper. Also, for 20 or 30 bucks extra (max) I am in control of when the session ends. If I do that 5 times over the course of one week, that that 100 bucks is a very small percentage of my total trip cost, counting airfare into the equation.

Most importantly, for me, I get sick of them, I send them home when I want, as opposed to them being in control of time. If I have a all night fuck fest I will spend far less on chicas during the day. If I get sick of them in a few hours, then I can send them home, but I am the one deciding how often we will fuck and how many times. I like to take the pressure off and just enjoy myself. Also, for me, a TLN is more likely to be more intensly GFE and a shorter session. Of course, YMMV. Some guys get board with chicas for more than an hour or two- I usually find a way to entertain myself.I do not post often, but I do read the board quite often. I did not have a wingman this trip so I flew solo. I am having a wonderful time. My comment is about Psychman and he is the most level headed and non polarizing person on this board. He tells it straight and is very accurate. I am currently in Medellin, La Mayorista as we speak. Yes it is noisy even as I type this thread. But here are the current facts. I went to Fase Dos on Thursday night, stayed about and hour and told one chica to come by after she got off. She was hot, had a great attitude, drank my fridge dry and was a fantastic GFE. It was TLN and it was cheaper in the long run as Psychcman has stated. On to the chicas of Mayorista. Wednesday was dead completely. No hotties in the afternoon. In the evening about 1 or 2. At night I did not know, I was with my amignovia. Thusday during the day about the same as Wednesday and at night before heading to Fase Dos a few cuties, but one or two real hotties. Last night I was with another amignovia, but sent her home to have some fun with La Mayo chicas. Last night there were several extremely hot women; by several I am saying about 15-20. There were of course the usual fatties and druggies. There was also a nice selection of cuties. If it is was like Friday every night I think the polarizing opinions on Mayo would be completely different. It is always a question of your particular choice. As far as safety is concerned in Mayo, it is completely fine. I have never had a problem. Obviously be aware of your surrounding, don't be the last gringo on the street and do not let others see you sloppy drunk. Save that for the comfort and security of your room or apartment.

All in all it is a great trip. The beer is good, the woman are great and (inexpensive). One suggestion if you join a dating website and are very discerning, you can have a hottie and only pay her with your attention and a few meals. Of course it is TLN if you want and furthermore after knowing her a while it can be "sin condon"

Cheers

[Ezyngo]

Any mongers in Medellin right now that need a chica. I have one chica who desperately need work. PM me for her cell number.

Thanks.

[TweedleD]

Any mongers in Medellin right now that need a chica. I have one chica who desperately need work. PM me for her cell number.

Thanks.You have one? There's at least a hundred thousand.

[Lmarcone]

You have one? There's at least a hundred thousand.This one is "desperate"- LOL!

[Ezyngo]

You have one? There's at least a hundred thousand.I know baby. But I can only solve 'nemployment one chica at a time.

Cheers

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Went today to this place and ordered pad thai. What they brought out was dish swimming in soy sauce that had no resemblance to what I ordered-more like chop suey than pad thai. They also had no Thai condiments. Apparently the only thing Thai about the place is the name. Don't expect Thai food here.

[The Navys Fault]

Went today to this place and ordered pad thai. What they brought out was dish swimming in soy sauce that had no resemblance to what I ordered-more like chop suey than pad thai. They also had no Thai condiments. Apparently the only thing Thai about the place is the name. Don't expect Thai food here.I ate there once in my last visit this past July. I agree, the food there is suspect, the drinks are weak. The only reason to go there is the view from the deck gives you a shot of some great eye candy as they make their way around the few blocks of PJ. Regards. TNF

[Oh Ya Papi]

Ya I know that place sux but the real thai is in p. Lleras called royal thai. Owner is thai, and I know thai! And it is good! Panang gai, spring rolls and cashew chicken is a great meal for 2!


Went today to this place and ordered pad thai. What they brought out was dish swimming in soy sauce that had no resemblance to what I ordered-more like chop suey than pad thai. They also had no Thai condiments. Apparently the only thing Thai about the place is the name. Don't expect Thai food here.

[TweedleD]

Went today to this place and ordered pad thai. What they brought out was dish swimming in soy sauce that had no resemblance to what I ordered-more like chop suey than pad thai. They also had no Thai condiments. Apparently the only thing Thai about the place is the name. Don't expect Thai food here.You can get really good Thai food in Bankok, Pattaya aint bad either,

[John Gault]

Don't forget we have a board for food in Colombia.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Don't forget we have a board for food in Colombia.And a NEW hardly used thread for "INFO FOR NEWBIES" And one for Travel Announcements, General Information, Colombian Peso exchange rate and related issues. Etc etc

[Member #4244]

TLN is often a good value but I understand what the "old hand" is saying, there are times where you take a girl TLN and wind up banging twice, that's pretty much a wash in terms of money (I am speaking generally here so don't go attacking with specific examples).

As far as the example there, I have never once known a girl who considered TLN 24 hours, maybe I am just fuzzy fucking from fucking all night myself but that sounded like something that started at 9AM and ended the next morning.

Of course I try to avoid all this bullshit by just keeping actual girlfriends (non pre pagos) and some favorites who understand that my steady buck is better than a little more cash that may or may not come during the same time period. I hate the negotiating side of shit, either forge a nice understanding or just go somewhere with fair rates and pay them (e. G. MPs) is your best bet IMHO (as the crown moans,"Ha! Your opinion? Humble!").

[Maxdnieo]

Do they seem familiar?

[Viajero]

Guys, food in Medellin suck big time. It is a shithole city, if not because of the Paisitas pussy, I wouldn't step a foot there. Food sucks, drivers are dangerously aggressive and stupid and they will run you over in a heart beat if you don't watch yourself, weather suck, it rains almost everyday with thunders and lightning along with the rain, people lie in your face while they smile at you, they will stab you in the back. Word of advice, when you go out to eat and you see a sign in a restaurant saying Italian food, Lebanese food, Chinese food etc. Food ignore it. They only use the names, but the cook is a Paisa who does not know an egg from a watermelon. I warned you, take or leave it, that was my dos centavos.

[Psychman]

I do not post often, but I do read the board quite often. I did not have a wingman this trip so I flew solo. I am having a wonderful time. My comment is about Psychman and he is the most level headed and non polarizing person on this board. He tells it straight and is very accurate.

CheersGracias. Sometimes I find myself getting drawn into some of the pettiness I see on boards- but I try not to. Not always easy.

As far as Medellin being a shithole, I guess to each his own. The city has amazing cultural events if you are into literature and the arts or lectures, supported by a very strong university community. I guess the question is what do you want in a place? What are the activities you wish to do when you are on vacation? If you want to fuck all day, certainly Medellin is prime for that. I you want activities geared toward English speaking tourists, it really is not the best place. That said, there are plenty of day trips and enough museums and tours of the city to keep the casual visitor busy for a few days at least. Trips to the villages and pueblos in the area are fun as well. Tons of opporturnities for hiking if your into it. We all have our interests, no?

If you like to wonder a city and soak up the daily life, I. E. The local markets, ect, it is fine but not great. I like to take the Metro (during the morning preferably, when the world is always a bit safer) , and explore various stops. Of course, you need to research and know where you are, and pay attention. Hiring a driver to take you around is an option too.

The food is nowhere on the scale of Lima, Mexico, or Thailand, but some of the soaps such are quiet lovely and sophisticated, even in the most humbled place to eat.

In general, I would say that it is not the greatest place if your Spanish sucks or if you really want a place with a strong tourist infestructure. I think the city has also been changing due to an influx of gringos, but some of those perceieved changes make be based upon the perspective of those whose interests are different than my own.

Basically, being able to get out of my daily rurtine, have sexy women treat me like a sex god, and not have any responsiblities other is a fucking privledge- I like wherever I am.

[Celeritas]

Hello,

I have about 2 weeks to spend in Colombia in the beginning of December and can't decide on the best itinerary and how to divide my time between various towns. I am leaning towards spending most of the time in Medellin because of its supposed great weather, paisas, the vibe, day trips, lower cost of living, etc. Bogota, on the other hand, appears to have more things to do. I will be flying NYC to BOG anyways and then a connecting flight to MDE, so airfare isn't really a factor. The longer I stay at one place, the better deal I can get on the apartment and work on my game with the girls.

I speak very comfortable Spanish and have been able to get a decent amount of non-pro action in Peru and Argentina. This will be my first time in Colombia.

So gentlemen, in your opinion, should I just stick to MDE and save BOG for the next time? Will I be bored out of my mind? May be I should visit Cali for a couple of days. What is the best itinerary for a monger?

You comments are greatly appreciated.

[Almotu]

Do they seem familiar?No, but I would like to get to know all three chicas (especially photo 8). Kindly post a link to the actual photos from the photo shoot please. ... or maybe it was a porno video shoot !

[Ricker]

Guys, food in Medellin suck big time. It is a shithole city, if not because of the Paisitas pussy, I wouldn't step a foot there. Food sucks, drivers are dangerously aggressive and stupid and they will run you over in a heart beat if you don't watch yourself, weather suck, it rains almost everyday with thunders and lightning along with the rain, people lie in your face while they smile at you, they will stab you in the back. Word of advice, when you go out to eat and you see a sign in a restaurant saying Italian food, Lebanese food, Chinese food etc. Food ignore it. They only use the names, but the cook is a Paisa who does not know an egg from a watermelon. I warned you, take or leave it, that was my dos centavos.Yep, total shithole, you've been properly warned, everyone stay away.

Yeah, right.

[Todasln]

WARNING.

Don't ever go or send money to Frank Casio's My Place.

Frank Casio's My Place is a real shit hole.

Clle. 85 #51-27 Apt. 301-Itagui-Barrio Santa Maria 85-La Mayorista.

Near by there are many nice hotels much cheaper (usd10-25 / night)

Very clean with internet stereo flat screen tv and

Big beautiful beds with orthopedic mattresses.

Young pretty girls stay with you for 2 hours for only 25k.

The same woman would charge 300-400 USD in Panama for TLN.

In Panama food is great and taxis are cheap but hotels cost more.

Colombians are like snakes it's all about ¨platta¨ money.

But my airport taxi driver was very nice and helpfull.

I live in a hot country right on the beach

And enjoy the high altitude and cool weather for a change.The only thing correct in this post is the address. Very clean apartment. Flat screens in every room. Nice beds. Not great but nice. 25 / night per person.

[SlamCity7777]

Hello,

I have about 2 weeks to spend in Colombia in the beginning of December and can't decide on the best itinerary and how to divide my time between various towns. I am leaning towards spending most of the time in Medellin because of its supposed great weather, paisas, the vibe, day trips, lower cost of living, etc. Bogota, on the other hand, appears to have more things to do. I will be flying NYC to BOG anyways and then a connecting flight to MDE, so airfare isn't really a factor. The longer I stay at one place, the better deal I can get on the apartment and work on my game with the girls.

I speak very comfortable Spanish and have been able to get a decent amount of non-pro action in Peru and Argentina. This will be my first time in Colombia.

So gentlemen, in your opinion, should I just stick to MDE and save BOG for the next time? Will I be bored out of my mind? May be I should visit Cali for a couple of days. What is the best itinerary for a monger?

You comments are greatly appreciated.Beginning of Dec is my favorite time to go to Colombia, tons of parties in the streets and lots of semi pros and students are looking for extra money for Christmas gifts. Bogota has was more stuff to do and WAY better food! Medellin has better weather. I love Peru and Argentina as well!

I'd say do a week in Bogota and then a week in Medellin. Why not? Or 4 days 4 days 5 days. This way you can get a taste of everything. You will start to get board with any city in Colombia after a few days.

[John Gault]

Hello,

I have about 2 weeks to spend in Colombia in the beginning of December and can't decide on the best itinerary and how to divide my time between various towns. I am leaning towards spending most of the time in Medellin because of its supposed great weather, paisas, the vibe, day trips, lower cost of living, etc. Bogota, on the other hand, appears to have more things to do. I will be flying NYC to BOG anyways and then a connecting flight to MDE, so airfare isn't really a factor. The longer I stay at one place, the better deal I can get on the apartment and work on my game with the girls.

I speak very comfortable Spanish and have been able to get a decent amount of non-pro action in Peru and Argentina. This will be my first time in Colombia.

So gentlemen, in your opinion, should I just stick to MDE and save BOG for the next time? Will I be bored out of my mind? May be I should visit Cali for a couple of days. What is the best itinerary for a monger?

You comments are greatly appreciated.I see other than BOG, and MDE you also are thinking of Cali. It is hot there, but with you speaking Spanish you will have a picnic there. Lots of hot Non pro's who are not jaded by Gringos like MDE. The key to a newbee in Cali in search of P4P is finding a good taxi driver. He will take you to so many places your head will be swimming.

I don't go there anymore after being there a couple of times because my airline does not fly to there from the States. Also I'm more interested in Pro's which makes MDE the best choice for me in Colombia.

[CaptainDorado]

Walked by there a few weeks ago and looks like a total shit stop from the out side. All so walked by the Hotel Central Plaza and Al Caravan that is a very short walk past the casino and took a tour of both places. The staff seemed real cool, showed me and a friend a room at both places and they were just fine. I understand they are the same owners. They both have web sites and it was like 20 bucks a night. Sorry Frank, but you know what they say in the realestate Bis! Location location location.

[Ricker]

Beginning of Dec is my favorite time to go to Colombia, tons of parties in the streets and lots of semi pros and students are looking for extra money for Christmas gifts. Bogota has was more stuff to do and WAY better food! Medellin has better weather. I love Peru and Argentina as well!

I'd say do a week in Bogota and then a week in Medellin. Why not? Or 4 days 4 days 5 days. This way you can get a taste of everything. You will start to get board with any city in Colombia after a few days.I dig the begining of December in Colombia too. Especially Medellin and Cali for me, I'm not a big Bogota fan, but that's just my preferences.

I actually prefer to hang in one city on a trip. I like to make contacts, get girls comfortable with me, get more comfortable with them, build friendships and get more GFE, etc.

Not easy to do with 4 days here. 4 days there, unless maybe you've already got your contacts set up from previous trips.

What I do sometimes is choose say Medellin as my home city for the trip, then maybe take a side trip of a few days somewhere else, coming back to Medellin where I've built some relationships already.

I definitely do not get bored after a few days in one city, but then again that's me, I'm pretty relaxed about it all.

Some guys like to jump about, and don't care about making friendships and contacts as much, just pure PFP, and maybe the "few days here, and a few days there" program is better suited for them.

[SlamCity7777]

I dig the begining of December in Colombia too. Especially Medellin and Cali for me, I'm not a big Bogota fan, but that's just my preferences.

I actually prefer to hang in one city on a trip. I like to make contacts, get girls comfortable with me, get more comfortable with them, build friendships and get more GFE, etc.

Not easy to do with 4 days here. 4 days there, unless maybe you've already got your contacts set up from previous trips.

What I do sometimes is choose say Medellin as my home city for the trip, then maybe take a side trip of a few days somewhere else, coming back to Medellin where I've built some relationships already.

I definitely do not get bored after a few days in one city, but then again that's me, I'm pretty relaxed about it all.

Some guys like to jump about, and don't care about making friendships and contacts as much, just pure PFP, and maybe the "few days here, and a few days there" program is better suited for them.We're almost on the same page Mr Ricker. Like we said before; early Dec is one of the best times to go to Colombia, rocking parties everywhere, and great selection of semi-pros coming out of left field for that Christmas money for a new Playstation! I see where you're coming from about sticking to a home base, frequenting the same few spots, get a vibe and or a little connection with a few chicks. This is what I did when I first started coming down but for a first trip down and with two weeks to spend it might be better to try a few different cites as they do have their own unique vibe. Bogota and Medellin are the top two destinations with Cartagena and Cali not quite played out yet.

When I was a kid working in restaurants an older guy-waiter-buddy of mine gave me some advice to me about traveling that I have always held on to;

"If you're having fun stay, if it sucks leave and try another place"

Could not be any simpler

Travel Safe and Report back

[Ricker]

We're almost on the same page Mr Ricker.

. Bogota and Medellin are the top two destinations with Cartagena and Cali not quite played out yet.Yep, we're usually on the same page about things.

About Cartagena and Cali not being played out though; These 2 destinations were the hotspots for gringo visitors long before the Medellin invasion.

I remeber when Cali was filled with gringos and hanging at the many Cali marriage agencies.


. When I was a kid working in restaurants an older guy-waiter-buddy of mine gave me some advice to me about traveling that I have always held on to;

"If you're having fun stay, if it sucks leave and try another place"

Could not be any simpler

Travel Safe and Report backSimple but true, be happy.

[Cruiser3281]

Hey everyone. I'm making my second trip to Medellin in early December. I wanted to know if anyone knows if Fase Dos and San Diego Show are open on Sunday nights since I know that is family night in Medellin and if so are they open until regular hours as the other nights?

Thanks

[It Travel]

Do they seem familiar?Your 2. Jpg is wonderful. Naked with shoes, in perfect position for anal sqweezing the tits!

IT

[Rainman3]

Hey everyone. I'm making my second trip to Medellin in early December. I wanted to know if anyone knows if Fase Dos and San Diego Show are open on Sunday nights since I know that is family night in Medellin and if so are they open until regular hours as the other nights?

ThanksI believe that FD is closed and SD is open on Sunday nights.

I'm fairly certain this is the case!

[El Bacano]

When in Medellin I'm allways lookin for that heart throb girl I could only dream about in the US. The problem is I seem to find too many in Medellin that my US mentallity keeps me from pursuing till the trip is allmost over, sorry Men just trying to get my mind set for my next trip and trying to advise people here to remember to live every moment and if you are lucky to get second chances, make it right the next time around. Go for the hottest fantasy here Men even if its too good to be true, you will not regret it, don't worry about the cost till you get back to the states, you don't want to be thinkin about what you should have done when you are in the hospital with tubes coming out of you everywhere.

[Rafzuh]

Gents,

For the first time ever, I have to use up my vacation days (about 3-4 days). And I've decided I really want to go to Medellin.

Problem is, I'm not your typical mongerer. I'm 25, fairly good looking, and have no problems picking up women back home. Thus arises my first question. What is the average age of an individual who goes to Medellin for mongering (lets say, stays at the Mansion)?

A big issue I have is that I have NO experience with Spanish, and thus why I believe staying at the Mansion would be a good start as girls frequent the hotel.

I plan on going in mid-November. How is the action there?

Are there accessible strip clubs? What are the best areas in Medellin to find girls?

Thanks in advance.

FYI. I WILL be writing a report upon my return, as I have many times on other forums in my region. Just looking for advice from you graduates. Don't mean to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) people off if the question has been asked, but rummaging through thousands of pages of posts for Medellin isn't as easy as it sounds.

[Chesscat]

todasin is staying there and making love constantly, so if the place is locked and the lights are off it is his fault. actually one person knows what is going on, and that is todasin. todasin, please save some of that mayo tang for those of us still locked in sex prison!

chesrep001.


frank casio's my place is closed.

all phones and lights are disconnected the place is locked.

nobody even knows what is going on

[Frank Casio]

hi guys,

i'm not closed, so don't sweat it. i've just been working a little more from word of mouth and references. some guy showed up without making a reservation and that's probably what started the rumor. since i sold my house in envigado and moved to tampa, i made my place my vacationning spot. so when i go back to medellin every 3-4 months appr. and stay there 30+ days i stay at my place. so i have a room ready for me when i arrive, the street room, which some of you guys don't like anyways because of the street noise. i travel very light with a back back on spirit airlines, since i have everything i need there already. yeah, your typical walmart gringo, ha, ha.

so, no, frank's place-my place is far from closed, but there are only two rooms available now. so you can't just show up, reservations only. my watchdogs won't let anybody in without a confirmed reservation.

frank


todasin is staying there and making love constantly, so if the place is locked and the lights are off it is his fault. actually one person knows what is going on, and that is todasin. todasin, please save some of that mayo tang for those of us still locked in sex prison!

chesrep001.

[HelpRules]

Gents,

For the first time ever, I have to use up my vacation days (about 3-4 days). And I've decided I really want to go to Medellin.

Problem is, I'm not your typical mongerer. I'm 25, fairly good looking, and have no problems picking up women back home. Thus arises my first question. What is the average age of an individual who goes to Medellin for mongering (lets say, stays at the Mansion)?

A big issue I have is that I have NO experience with Spanish, and thus why I believe staying at the Mansion would be a good start as girls frequent the hotel.

I plan on going in mid-November. How is the action there?

Are there accessible strip clubs? What are the best areas in Medellin to find girls?

Thanks in advance.

FYI. I WILL be writing a report upon my return, as I have many times on other forums in my region. Just looking for advice from you graduates. Don't mean to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) people off if the question has been asked, but rummaging through thousands of pages of posts for Medellin isn't as easy as it sounds.Well, if you don't speak spanish, how the hell do you plan on talking to regular girls. What are you going to do? Point all night. You would have to find a colombian that speaks english and doesn't already think your a typical american monger. Good luck! Just pay for it Brad Pitt.

[You69Me]

Well, if you don't speak spanish, how the hell do you plan on talking to regular girls. What are you going to do? Point all night. You would have to find a colombian that speaks english and doesn't already think your a typical american monger. Good luck! Just pay for it Brad Pitt.It is very possible to find an educated woman who speaks a little english.

Generally the woman in Colombia are open minded.

I found a respectful woman a bit younger than me through ¨latinlovesearch¨

We are just holding hands kissing hugging

There is no greedy family behid her or money involved.

I am having the best time of my live.

Anyone here can do this just keep trying and you will succeed

[Gary Groundwork]

Gents,

For the first time ever, I have to use up my vacation days (about 3-4 days). And I've decided I really want to go to Medellin.

Problem is, I'm not your typical mongerer. I'm 25, fairly good looking, and have no problems picking up women back home. Thus arises my first question. What is the average age of an individual who goes to Medellin for mongering (lets say, stays at the Mansion)?

A big issue I have is that I have NO experience with Spanish, and thus why I believe staying at the Mansion would be a good start as girls frequent the hotel.

I plan on going in mid-November. How is the action there?

Are there accessible strip clubs? What are the best areas in Medellin to find girls?

Thanks in advance.

FYI. I WILL be writing a report upon my return, as I have many times on other forums in my region. Just looking for advice from you graduates. Don't mean to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) people off if the question has been asked, but rummaging through thousands of pages of posts for Medellin isn't as easy as it sounds.Paisas arent interested in how good looking you are. In fact they will tell the fattest ugliest bloke he is handsome. They are interested in your $$. You will learn that quick enough.

If I was as much of a stud as you I wouldn't waste my money flying to another country for 3 days to try and pick up pussy.

[You69Me]

todasin is staying there and making love constantly, so if the place is locked and the lights are off it is his fault. actually one person knows what is going on, and that is todasin. todasin, please save some of that mayo tang for those of us still locked in sex prison!

chesrep001.when i'm back home i will up a picture so you can see for yourself.

[Member #4394]

Hotel Macedonia Plaza, Plaza Mayor, and Central Plaza are the same ownership. Not sure about Caravan. Cantral Plaza is the best hotel in Mayorista. But it is a little too distant to bring a girl from Mayo strip.


Walked by there a few weeks ago and looks like a total shit stop from the out side. All so walked by the Hotel Central Plaza and Al Caravan that is a very short walk past the casino and took a tour of both places. The staff seemed real cool, showed me and a friend a room at both places and they were just fine. I understand they are the same owners. They both have web sites and it was like 20 bucks a night. Sorry Frank, but you know what they say in the realestate Bis! Location location location.

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Well, if you don't speak spanish, how the hell do you plan on talking to regular girls. What are you going to do? Point all night. You would have to find a colombian that speaks english and doesn't already think your a typical american monger. Good luck! Just pay for it Brad Pitt.If you do find a girl in Colombia who speaks good English in Colombia get ready to PAY BIG $$$ in one way or another, because she will be well seasoned in the game. Either she had prior gringo boyfriends who paid for English classes, has traveled to Costa Rica or Panana to "work", been or lived in the states or come from money where here family paid for her English classes and she doesn't need you. Any "regular" girl will worry more about wondering were the money's coming for her phone bill, almuerzo, buseta or metro money. No extra $$$ for English classes.

[Ricker]

If you do find a girl in Colombia who speaks good English in Colombia get ready to PAY BIG $$$ in one way or another, because she will be well seasoned in the game. Either she had prior gringo boyfriends who paid for English classes, has traveled to Costa Rica or Panana to "work", been or lived in the states or come from money where here family paid for her English classes and she doesn't need you. Any "regular" girl will worry more about wondering were the money's coming for her phone bill, almuerzo, buseta or metro money. No extra $$$ for English classes.It's funny you say that Heat, 'cause I agree with you and it's normally the truth, however, I stumbled upon this chica I met in an obscure casa in Cali, very sweet, and to my surprise, speaks very good english.

She is very low key, humble and we've become friends, her seeing me outside the casa as friends with no money discussed, I just help her as I like.

She's definitely the excpetion, and just has a knack for languages as she learned from books and TV.

Actually is strange for me speaking english in Colombia, but she likes to practice, so with her it's english only.

Just a diamond in the rough.

[HelpRules]

It's funny you say that Heat, 'cause I agree with you and it's normally the truth, however, I stumbled upon this chica I met in an obscure casa in Cali, very sweet, and to my surprise, speaks very good english.

She is very low key, humble and we've become friends, her seeing me outside the casa as friends with no money discussed, I just help her as I like.

She's definitely the excpetion, and just has a knack for languages as she learned from books and TV.

Actually is strange for me speaking english in Colombia, but she likes to practice, so with her it's english only.

Just a diamond in the rough.Ricker, he said he was looking for a regular girl that speaks english. No casas. I would think he would have to troll for girls at banks and places where they deal with alot of gringos. The problem there is the educated girls that speak english at these places know he will be a monger. Also, alot of these girls arent that good looking. I met a couple english speaking servers at restaurants near the mansion that flirted with me but I wasnt attracted to them. There lies the problem. Sure, you can find regular girls that speak okay english, but are they hot compared to what you see at fase or san diego. Lets review: hot girl that works as escort 100. 00- regular girl who speaks english 20 dollar meal- regular girl that speaks english, is hot, and doesn't think your a monger- PRICELESS

[El Bacano]

Sounds like you really just want every one to say how pretty you are, You seem to want to compete with the Gringos to see whos better with the women, If you like American women just stay there you don't need the Latinas, These forums are for the Men not Boys who want something new, rather than giving in to the Gringa who wants to destroy the Gringo, This isn't all about age. You seem to be in a superficial state of mind, all you really need is a mirror.

[Midwest]

I'm staying there next month. He is not closed.


When I'm back home I will up a picture so you can see for your self.

[Combo]

It is very possible to find an educated woman who speaks a little english.

Generally the woman in Colombia are open minded.

I found a respectful woman a bit younger than me through ¨latinlovesearch¨

We are just holding hands kissing hugging

There is no greedy family behid her or money involved.

I am having the best time of my live.

Anyone here can do this just keep trying and you will succeedIf you're only in town for a week or so, having a relationship with a Paisa is very unlikely. Especially, if you don't speak Spanish. Yes, there are.

Nice girls in MDE and some of them even speak English, but how exactly is a typical vacationing foreigner going to find them and befriend them?

Chasing non-pros can be fun, and many of us do it in the States. But doing it on a vacation in MDE is problematical, even if you look like Clooney / Pitt / etc.

Assuming that HelpRules is going to be in MDE for a week or so, and knowing that he speaks no Espanol, he may as well go where play-for-pay is easiest.

Save the non-Pros for when he returns home.

[Combo]

Sorry meant Rafzuh, not HelpRules.

[SlamCity7777]

For the 1000 time; If you don't speak Spanish your chances are slim on hunting down a "regular" girl. Most people in Colombia do not even speak minimal English.

It's a pipe dream! Use your head please!

[SlamCity7777]

Well, if you don't speak spanish, how the hell do you plan on talking to regular girls. What are you going to do? Point all night. You would have to find a colombian that speaks english and doesn't already think your a typical american monger. Good luck! Just pay for it Brad Pitt.How many times does this question need to be answered? NO! If you do not have ANY Spanish skills and only a few days (less than two weeks) you are most likely SHIT OUT OF LUCK with non pros! Stay at Casa Blanca; You'll have a great time and be in your comfort zone.

THIS IS A GREAT POST BY Hasideas Tao (POST #3254)

Already planning my next visit.

Hello, all,

Just returned from a fantastic trip to Medellin. Now if I could just kick this post nasal drip I acquired on the plane home!

I have to say that learning Spanish really pays off. I have these CDs in my car that have been repeating over and over for months. Sitting in traffic has never been more productive. Being able to spend a full day with a chica and even a second date changes the game completely! My Spanish is not great but I can get by. At times, the gringo tax was in full effect, especially during my short stay at CB. But otherwise, with just a little patience and putting forth a good effort, I was shown an unaccountable amount of compassion and generosity. In general, the people are so freaking friendly it makes me sad when I realize how desperate and impatient we gringos act in spite of all the luxuries and conveniences we so blindly take for granted. I think to make a better impression while visiting their country, we just need to slow down a little. I recommend games. Cards, dice, checkers. Whatever you can think of. I found a backgammon board in my apartment! Hours of entertainment, fabulous prizes and limited demand for Spanish vocabulary! Question. Whats the best way to get to and from the major cities. Specifically to CTG from MDE? I know in Peru, plane tickets are a lot less expensive if a local resident buys them. Is this the case in Colombia as well? Post in the forum or PM me. Thanks. Positive energy to all.

You clowns see what he did there? He went out and learned some basic Spanish! Shocking! Radical Idea?

Hey guys I'm going to go to Cambodia or Laos for some hot Asian Pussy. The normal girls all speak English right? Like all Americans speak two languages right? Oh wait. Most American's don't speak two countries. Shucks!

[HelpRules]

I will say you should learn at least basic spanish. My mongering improved 100, after I was able to speak spanish and portuguese. I am now about 25% speaking those 2 languages. There is just no replacement for being able to talk to the girls when you interview them, and when you take them to dinner or a disco. Sure, your paying them, but it makes it more GFE and they will come see you again for cheaper. Hell, if you live there for a few months, they might see you for free after a while. Start with the book- Spanish in 10 minutes a day. It will give you the most important words, and from there you can move on to more advanced books.

[Todasln]

When I'm back home I will up a picture so you can see for your self.I just returned from Medellin. I did in fact stay at Frank's Place. I hate it when others attempt to speak for me or put words in my mouth. The only thing I want in my mouth is Colombian Pussy. Here is the story, when Frank has nobody staying at his place, he turns the lights off. I just returned. It is clean, very well furnished. Two working bathrooms. One shower with electric heat for hot shower. Very secure. It has wall safes in every room. Flat screen tv and a full kitchen with utensils for cooking. BUT who gives a shit. It is right on the strip. It is safe and convenient to Mayo pussy. Mayo pussy may not be for everyone. I understand that. I personally speak Spanish and have some amignovias to fill my time when I was not hunting mayo pussy. Also had one girl from Fase Dos over and she did not seem offended by the accommodations. So again guys, different strokes for different folks. But Frank's is just fine. If you don't speak Spanish the "gringo" paradise of Parque or Poblado or Centro may be better for you. The restaurants are gringo friendly. Other than Casa Blanca you are still going to have to go to the casas and get the girls.

[Nowrath]

I will say you should learn at least basic spanish. My mongering improved 100, after I was able to speak spanish and portuguese. I am now about 25% speaking those 2 languages. There is just no replacement for being able to talk to the girls when you interview them, and when you take them to dinner or a disco. Sure, your paying them, but it makes it more GFE and they will come see you again for cheaper. Hell, if you live there for a few months, they might see you for free after a while. Start with the book- Spanish in 10 minutes a day. It will give you the most important words, and from there you can move on to more advanced books.Completely concur speaking works

My first trip to Colombia in 2006, just had the basis, but after deciding to go to DR, in 2010, went on a crash course of Pimslur CD's. And the difference was 1000 percent, not with the Pro's because I am tired of those girls but just the friendliness of going to the store, beach or walking about talking with the people.

4 years ago I decided to only go the Dating site route and whichever city I am going to I join their dating forum and meet the women through these, not for the "quanity" guy who wants the most bang for their buck, but I stay a month now in these countries, and I let the women pick my profile and send a interest and then I write them.

This shows me who likes my looks, and not vice versa, I must state clearly. 99% of the guys on this site will hate this idea, but about 10 years ago, my interest in Pro's died, I just couldn't get the "meter ticking " sound out of me head when they were with me.

So last year in DR worked great, met only 2 in person from the site, went to their cities, had a great time,

For my trip to MDE, in May 2012, doing the same thing.

Talking with 3 right now by webchat (spanish lessons for free) and having a blast, one from Bogota, Cali and Bello, Antioquia.

I'm able to speak spanish better then understand it, I don't know why, but they're very patient

So hit the lessons and have a blast.

This trup for my 50th, will include a month in MDE, with a side trip for 9 days to Buenos Aires, can't wait

Nowrath

[HelpRules]

I read here that most of the girls from the dating sites want money too. Arent you paying them in some way?

[Ricker]

No argument there.

But looks trumps language ability, IMO.

I'd trade my spanish speaking ability for looks in a heartbeat.

I'm just saying, if you are a good looking guy you don't need to work at it in Colombia, that's for sure. If you're good looking and speak spanish, well, I guess you could date Miss Colombia, seriously.Looks like I'll soon be dating Miss Colombia then.

Seriously though, IMO, Looks get your foot in the door for sure, but if you're a dud, and / or can't communicate, well then, you're still limited,

I see it all the time.

Luckily I'm hot and a Ricky Ricardo, spanish speaking fool :)

[You69Me]

I read here that most of the girls from the dating sites want money too. Arent you paying them in some way?After a few mails and a phone call you will soon realize what is going on.

Inviting a woman for lunch dinner etc will cost you about 8'000 pesos in "Poblado"

Or go to the "San Diego" mall in "Expediciones"

Everywhere you will see stunning natural woman.

Try to find an educated woman without kids.

[You Can]

All women of all countries want money! Thats why I love working girls at least there up front with it. Wives and girlfriends rob you over time and then leave you and you can't believe it. Thats why I love working women, I get what I want and usually have a great time with them and as long as I want to keep them I can. Its a win win situation!


I read here that most of the girls from the dating sites want money too. Arent you paying them in some way?

[SlamCity7777]

No argument there.

But looks trumps language ability, IMO.

I'd trade my spanish speaking ability for looks in a heartbeat.

I'm just saying, if you are a good looking guy you don't need to work at it in Colombia, that's for sure. If you're good looking and speak spanish, well, I guess you could date Miss Colombia, seriously.Here we go again with the Looks vs _____ argument. AGAIN! Let me throw Ace trump now to stop this before it gets petty. Palermo has a point Looks are turmp for most part. Like in life it is better to be well balanced than it is to be a specialist in one area. I think I saw on Nat Geo channel or some junk that highly specialized species die out first because they can't adapt; vs the well balanced animal that can roll with the changes in environment.

Would I like to be tall (over 6") and handsome like Leonardo DeCaprio? HELL YES! But I'm not so to BALANCE this out I have developed strong language skills (minor in College best investment in myself I ever made!) fun and positive personality, sharp sense of humor (able to make jokes and understand them in Spaish, true test of your language comprehension and execution IMO) , dress nice but not like a D-bag, well groomed, and thanks to my mom and dad I am (with all due) a fairly handsome guy with a nice smile.

Do the best with what you have. What can you change? What can't you change? Take a hard look at yourself and see where you can improve. This is how you develop "Game".

Not too hard guys. I just saved some of ya'll $29. 95 on some Bullshit self-help book! LOL!

[John Gault]

Looks like I'll soon be dating Miss Colombia then.

Seriously though, IMO, Looks get your foot in the door for sure, but if you're a dud, and / or can't communicate, well then, you're still limited,

I see it all the time.

Luckily I'm hot and a Ricky Ricardo, spanish speaking fool.Only you could come up with that blast from the past. LOL

[John Gault]

All women of all countries want money! Thats why I love working girls at least there up front with it. Wives and girlfriends rob you over time and then leave you and you can't believe it. Thats why I love working women, I get what I want and usually have a great time with them and as long as I want to keep them I can. Its a win win situation!Amen brother.

[HelpRules]

Here is how you pick up women. Watch and learn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMOJMth4gKY

[Menteng]

Inviting a woman for lunch dinner etc will cost you about 8'000 pesos in "Poblado"Maybe you meant the taxi-fare from el hueco to parque lleras.

[EstebanH]

Nowrath.

Just curious as to which site works best for you. Colombia Cupid did not work well for me.

Also which are you using for video chat? Skype?


Completely concur speaking works

My first trip to Colombia in 2006, just had the basis, but after deciding to go to DR, in 2010, went on a crash course of Pimslur CD's. And the difference was 1000 percent, not with the Pro's because I am tired of those girls but just the friendliness of going to the store, beach or walking about talking with the people.

4 years ago I decided to only go the Dating site route and whichever city I am going to I join their dating forum and meet the women through these, not for the "quanity" guy who wants the most bang for their buck, but I stay a month now in these countries, and I let the women pick my profile and send a interest and then I write them.

This shows me who likes my looks, and not vice versa, I must state clearly. 99% of the guys on this site will hate this idea, but about 10 years ago, my interest in Pro's died, I just couldn't get the "meter ticking " sound out of me head when they were with me.

So last year in DR worked great, met only 2 in person from the site, went to their cities, had a great time,

For my trip to MDE, in May 2012, doing the same thing.

Talking with 3 right now by webchat (spanish lessons for free) and having a blast, one from Bogota, Cali and Bello, Antioquia.

I'm able to speak spanish better then understand it, I don't know why, but they're very patient

So hit the lessons and have a blast.

This trup for my 50th, will include a month in MDE, with a side trip for 9 days to Buenos Aires, can't wait

Nowrath

[You69Me]

Jesus. 8,000 pesos for dinner for 2 in Poblado? You must take your dates dumpster diving.

Reef.8, 000 pesos is the price for one full lunch

Sometime you pay only 15, 000 pesos for 2 people.

In many of these old buildings which are restaurants now.

In poblado including everything.

Colombia is ¨bery espensive¨

Cosmetics electronics gas taxis.

Go to stores and see for your self

Hotels and prostitutes are cheap.

[You69Me]

Latinlovesearch and badoo worked good for me.

Colombians like social networking

I have seen many using FC

MSM has a translator.


Nowrath.

Just curious as to which site works best for you. Colombia Cupid did not work well for me.

Also which are you using for video chat? Skype?

[You69Me]

Make sure you tell us how your date goes Ricker, you lucky handsome bugger!

I just had a dinner date with a crazy hot calena who spoke perfect english, which confirms my belief that it's a bad thing, as she had lived in the states and has been 'corrupted', IMO.

Now I know I don't have any game and another guy might have had a shot with her, but I got nowhere, and I am 99% sure she just loves going to nice restaurants at the expense of awestruck gringos like me.

I told her I was looking for an apt and she rattled off the details of a few that she seemed to know quite well, like which ones had jacuzzis, but when I asked her how she knew so much about these hotel rooms she said she stayed in them while her apt was being refurbed. Yeah right!

Dinner cost me about the price of 2 prepagos, LOL. I will never learn.Coming from the US you might have the wrong idea what a real woman should be.

Look for a humble loving caring woman.

There are plenty here

[You69Me]

Here is how you pick up women. Watch and learn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMOJMth4gKYYou don't pickup a woman. You conquer her.

[Nowrath]

Nowrath.

Just curious as to which site works best for you. Colombia Cupid did not work well for me.

Also which are you using for video chat? Skype?EstebanH.

I've always used the Cupid one's Dominican when I went there and Colombia here and LatinAmerica also.

But I must emphasis I use them as a way for me to get know the country, rather then get laid.

Yes as other members have stated Pro's work these sites, but their easy to pick out just from there profile pic's.

Half of the photo's are probably taken by customers after the deed.

On DRcupid, met two great women last year one 20 year old from Santo Domingo and a 38 year old from Santiago, one on the morning and on my return trip to met the other one at night, and then later they both visited me

But let me perfectly clear, I use them as a way for me to know someone there before I get there, all the women I have met in person had jobs, the 38 year old had kids, they could be talking with 100 more guys, I don't know, but went in April 2011 and I'm still talking with the 38 year old almost everyday by MSN or yahoo, she has a webcam and it's great spanish lessons for me, also has not asked me for a penny.

I have also used SKYPE to talk with a woman in Bogota, very clear transmission and used my MSN to talk with one in Barrancabermeja also very clear could see and hear them both perfectly, one had a laptop the other desktop.

Hope this helps

Nowrath

[Legal Tender]

All women of all countries want money! Thats why I love working girls at least there up front with it. Wives and girlfriends rob you over time and then leave you and you can't believe it. Thats why I love working women, I get what I want and usually have a great time with them and as long as I want to keep them I can. Its a win win situation!Grasshoppers: there is no such thing as free pussy. Say it 1000 thousand times. Believe it. Live it. You will be closer to enlightenment.

Only good energy!

[BayBoy]

Palermo old buddy, I know you 'got game'. I saw that in Cali back in March. You were knocking out the chicas then. Plus with your good Spanish and being guapo, you've got a good combo. Don't use that word grotesque. By the way is your PM working, I want to send you a message.


No argument there.

But looks trumps language ability, IMO.

I'd trade my spanish speaking ability for looks in a heartbeat.

I'm just saying, if you are a good looking guy you don't need to work at it in Colombia, that's for sure. If you're good looking and speak spanish, well, I guess you could date Miss Colombia, seriously.

[El Bacano]

I meant Rahzuh on my last post I was ageeing with you I worded it wrong,

[The Navys Fault]

Grasshoppers: there is no such thing as free pussy. Say it 1000 thousand times. Believe it. Live it. You will be closer to enlightenment.

Only good energy!Legal Tender:

You crack me up! I paid a girl to say it a thousand times for me! It is so true. There is no free pussy. One way or another we pay for it. Dinner, movies, backgammon (just going off another mongers post) and such! I am going back down in 9 days and can't wait. Just a long weekend for the Halloween bash that BBROC is having.

Enjoy the funny pix, says it all!

[MiamiHeatLuver]

Jesus. 8,000 pesos for dinner for 2 in Poblado? You must take your dates dumpster diving.

Reef.That or 3 Chuzos! Jajaja LOL. Toss the nasty arepa!

A lot of funny Dr. Phil Casanovas on here.

The Colombian forum has become a good source for amusement!! je je je lol You gotta laugh it off or what? Your not going to let it bother you.. "No le pares bolas"

[El Bacano]

The women no matter what the price in Medellin captivate me. True the non pros seem to get more out me than the pros, I try not to think about spent money, indirect or direct, life is too short, The women of the USA have destroyed me mentally so attemting to reinvent myself. These forums seem to have a lot of put down artist that remind me of the USA women. The colombian female won't do this to me, Because I can't understand them even if they do, Jaja. I'm not saying be stupid with your money, all I'm saying if its within 20000 pesos don't waste your thoughts go on to the next experience.

[Frank Casio]

You don't pickup a woman. You conquer her.The new "guru" of ISG with 27 reports? Who is this guy? Thank you for your widom my master, load of crap.

Frank Casio!

[Frank Casio]

8, 000 pesos is the price for one full lunch

Sometime you pay only 15, 000 pesos for 2 people.

In many of these old buildings which are restaurants now.

In poblado including everything.

Colombia is ¨bery espensive¨

Cosmetics electronics gas taxis.

Go to stores and see for your self

Hotels and prostitutes are cheap.Colombia is "bery expensive", from the new "guru" of ISG. Learn how to spell fool before you try to become an expert in Colombia-Medellin with 27 reports. Next time you try to describe My Place without seeing it or going to my Web page stick your tongue up your ass.

Frank Casio!

[Rafzuh]

If you're only in town for a week or so, having a relationship with a Paisa is very unlikely. Especially, if you don't speak Spanish. Yes, there are.

Nice girls in MDE and some of them even speak English, but how exactly is a typical vacationing foreigner going to find them and befriend them?

Chasing non-pros can be fun, and many of us do it in the States. But doing it on a vacation in MDE is problematical, even if you look like Clooney / Pitt / etc.

Assuming that HelpRules is going to be in MDE for a week or so, and knowing that he speaks no Espanol, he may as well go where play-for-pay is easiest.

Save the non-Pros for when he returns home.Let me clear this up. I don't think I'm dashing (and I apologize to those who took offense at describing my appearance as its probably unnecessary).

I'm OKAY with p4p. Thats why I mentioned 'Mansion', as in Casa Blanca. The only reason why I said anything about my age is because I wanted to know if I will be out of place at Casa blanca. I don't know Spanish (I do however know basic Spanish NOT conversational). I am going to be learning a little more before I depart. But I already know that speaking Spanish will def. Help increase the odds if you want a non pro. But me, I don't plan on going non-pro. I've seen what Casa Blanca is about, and trust me, I'm all for it!

Anyways, to reiterate. I want to know if a 25 something like me will be out of place hanging out / staying in any of the Casa |Blanca rooms with girls readily available. I only P4P because it is exciting, and something different. And saves a lot of time hunting.

Now gentlemen, I only came on this forum and asked these questions because this is a discussion forum, and based on previous posts, I thought we were supposed to help each other out. If I had been to Colombia I'd definitely help out a newbie (experienced Cuba goer, and have contributed, AND helped those seeking).

I know there are lots of people here that are willing to help.

Thanks again.

[Rafzuh]

And FYI. I'm not American

[PapaMac]

Let me clear this up. I don't think I'm dashing (and I apologize to those who took offense at describing my appearance as its probably unnecessary).

I'm OKAY with p4p. Thats why I mentioned 'Mansion', as in Casa Blanca. The only reason why I said anything about my age is because I wanted to know if I will be out of place at Casa blanca. I don't know Spanish (I do however know basic Spanish NOT conversational). I am going to be learning a little more before I depart. But I already know that speaking Spanish will def. Help increase the odds if you want a non pro. But me, I don't plan on going non-pro. I've seen what Casa Blanca is about, and trust me, I'm all for it!

Anyways, to reiterate. I want to know if a 25 something like me will be out of place hanging out / staying in any of the Casa |Blanca rooms with girls readily available. I only P4P because it is exciting, and something different. And saves a lot of time hunting.

Now gentlemen, I only came on this forum and asked these questions because this is a discussion forum, and based on previous posts, I thought we were supposed to help each other out. If I had been to Colombia I'd definitely help out a newbie (experienced Cuba goer, and have contributed, AND helped those seeking).

I know there are lots of people here that are willing to help.

Thanks again.Rafzuh,

I don't think you won't be out of place at MM or in casas or anywhere in Medellin. The chicas will flock to you because most of them can relate to you easier, as your similar age to them. The girls will date men 30-40 years older than them. And it is generally accepted.

My first trip to Medellin I was 24, seven years ago. It was and still is, for the most part, like being the only kid in the candy store!

Have fun and post a report when you get back.

[BigTennis]

Rafzuh,

I don't think you won't be out of place at MM or in casas or anywhere in Medellin. The chicas will flock to you because most of them can relate to you easier, as your similar age to them. The girls will date men 30-40 years older than them. And it is generally accepted.

My first trip to Medellin I was 24, seven years ago. It was and still is, for the most part, like being the only kid in the candy store!

Have fun and post a report when you get back.I have also been to Bogota, Cartagena and baranquilla many times. If you are decent looking and can carry around a translator and have a tiny bit of spanish you can enjoy both pro and non pro. I would hit the non pros from Thursday through the weekend and the pros during the days. Avoid sitting around the pool with the guys and drinking and go sit at a bar in lleras or ask around what bars are good on any particular night. Non pros really don't travel in packs of ladies but rather with their boyfriends or someone that can pick up their drinks. Badoo is a good place to meet non pros. I have banged and still bang colombians from all parts of the country and very rarley pay for the sex but of course I enjoy paying their cab fees and dinners and for their bowling, movies, clothes. To name a few! I speak spanish but I am a gringo that somehow picked it up pretty fast after about 8 university courses.

[SlamCity7777]

I have also been to Bogota, Cartagena and baranquilla many times. If you are decent looking and can carry around a translator and have a tiny bit of spanish you can enjoy both pro and non pro. I would hit the non pros from Thursday through the weekend and the pros during the days. Avoid sitting around the pool with the guys and drinking and go sit at a bar in lleras or ask around what bars are good on any particular night. Non pros really don't travel in packs of ladies but rather with their boyfriends or someone that can pick up their drinks. Badoo is a good place to meet non pros. I have banged and still bang colombians from all parts of the country and very rarley pay for the sex but of course I enjoy paying their cab fees and dinners and for their bowling, movies, clothes. To name a few! I speak spanish but I am a gringo that somehow picked it up pretty fast after about 8 university courses.8 Classes at university? That's Span 101-202 (4 classes total) and 4 more in advanced culture, literature, or grammar. I certainly hope you picked up some Spanish after 4 years in class LOL! My Spanish minor was 12 classes (two abroad) and it was the best investment I've ever made in myself!

Newbies, rookies, even OG in country mongers. Learn REAL Spanish and your world will OPEN UP to almost LIMITLESS possibilities in Spanish speaking countries with women!

I have had the blessings and good fortune to have pulled many waitresses, bartenders, casino dealers and floor staff, coffee shop girls both working and guests, girls in the mall, night clubs, and even on the street waiting for the bus. My fave scores were the girls working in the service (Non Sex) industry because they get hit on all the time so they are very guarded and sometimes instructed to not to go out with customers. It's the challenge and courtship I guess you can call it that I enjoy with non-pros. While some of my "coffee shop" might not have been as hot, pretty, or sexy as some of the Pre-Pagos I've been with they have been more memorable because of the "Trill of the Hunt", the risk of failure (there has been PLENTY of failure!) , and the feeling of accomplishment. Having $80K in your back pocket for a TLN is also a good insurance policy too! Hahaha.

NOTE: I am not trying to brag or get all "Dear Penthouse" or "My game is the best" it's not. But I want to use my experiences to illustrate how important a the gift of gab is in ANY LANGUAGE! So if you're serious about it LEARN DECENT SPANISH!

[Legal Tender]

I have also been to Bogota, Cartagena and baranquilla many times. If you are decent looking and can carry around a translator and have a tiny bit of spanish you can enjoy both pro and non pro. I would hit the non pros from Thursday through the weekend and the pros during the days. Avoid sitting around the pool with the guys and drinking and go sit at a bar in lleras or ask around what bars are good on any particular night. Non pros really don't travel in packs of ladies but rather with their boyfriends or someone that can pick up their drinks. Badoo is a good place to meet non pros. I have banged and still bang colombians from all parts of the country and very rarley pay for the sex but of course I enjoy paying their cab fees and dinners and for their bowling, movies, clothes. To name a few! I speak spanish but I am a gringo that somehow picked it up pretty fast after about 8 university courses.Grasshoppers: there is no such thing as free pussy. Say it 1000 thousand times. Believe it. Live it. You will be closer to enlightenment.

Only good energy

[El Bacano]

It seems to me that the single most important thing you can do is learn the spanish language, which I consider myself highly intelligent but cannot seem to pick it up, I must be much dumber than I suspected, Does any one have any advice on how they mastered this tough language, it would be appreciated, and I only stress this because, yes Looks are important, but you pretty much need have the heredity you were born with there,

[Rafzuh]

Rafzuh,

I don't think you won't be out of place at MM or in casas or anywhere in Medellin. The chicas will flock to you because most of them can relate to you easier, as your similar age to them. The girls will date men 30-40 years older than them. And it is generally accepted.

My first trip to Medellin I was 24, seven years ago. It was and still is, for the most part, like being the only kid in the candy store!

Have fun and post a report when you get back.Thank you. THANK YOU!

I have other questions, but more in regards to the Casa itself. So I will post in the casa blanca section. However, I'll bring it up here as well.

I was planning to leave on the 12th for 4 nights, but looks like casa I and II are booked solid. Spoke to Alexa and she says that its possible to accommodate me in II on the 13th. I know this has been brought up MANY times, but I believe there is a difference in I and II, correct?

Also, I'm flying out of Ontario Canada, and my flight (at least 1 stop) is about $1k! Does anyone know any travel sites where I can grab a good deal?

Thanks again.

[Dickhead]

"it seems to me that the single most important thing you can do is learn the spanish language, which i consider myself highly intelligent but cannot seem to pick it up, i must be much dumber than i suspected, does any one have any advice on how they mastered this tough language, it would be appreciated, and i only stress this because, yes looks are important, but you pretty much need have the heredity you were born with there."

spanish is a very easy language to learn at a basic level. very clear pronunciation rules and, for a native english speaker, virtually the same alphabet. also there are lots of cognates. so, as can readily be seen by your posting history, you have a room temperature iq at best and this likely explains your lack of success with the language.

for those who are slightly more gifted, listening to spanish radio in your takes no actual study time and does sink in after a while. boring and vapid, but even more effective, is watching spanish soap operas (telenovelas). watching a mix of english tv with spanish subtitles and spanish tv with english subtitles is also a good way to learn. or buy an english language and spanish language newspaper from the same date and location. then once you get a bit of background, write down unfamiliar words you see on the street and look them up later.

reading simple novels like treasure island, the adventures of tom sawyer, and rain man was helpful to me as i advanced in skill. i already knew the plot so i could glean the meaning of some unfamiliar words without stopping to look them up. this helped build my reading speed once i was already fairly fluid in my speech.

then at some point you have to immerse yourself in situations where you cannot fall back on your native language. spending time with prostitutes is one way to accomplish this, as is going to bum fuck towns in the middle of nowhere, where even the people working in the hospitality industry have little or no english.

[Tbird]

Spending time with prostitutes is one way to accomplish this, as is going to bum fuck towns in the middle of nowhere, where even the people working in the hospitality industry have little or no English.This was exactly the way I learned. I arrived in Bogota in 2004 with very limited Spanish. I have never taken a formal Spanish class, but years of chasing skirt from Costa Rica to Argentina gave priceless practice, and fine-tuned my ear to various regional accents. Dealing with girls with NO ENGLISH was the only way to go.

Of course, this was my third active language, not second, which made learning easier.

[Sammytheman]

Thank you. THANK YOU!

Does anyone know any travel sites where I can grab a good deal?

Thanks again.Http://www.spirit.com

$572. 60 if you leave on 14th and come back on 22nd. Flight leaves from Niagara Falls. American side; (

[EstebanH]

"it seems to me that the single most important thing you can do is learn the spanish language, which i consider myself highly intelligent but cannot seem to pick it up, i must be much dumber than i suspected, does any one have any advice on how they mastered this tough language, it would be appreciated, and i only stress this because, yes looks are important, but you pretty much need have the heredity you were born with there."

spanish is a very easy language to learn at a basic level. very clear pronunciation rules and, for a native english speaker, virtually the same alphabet. also there are lots of cognates. so, as can readily be seen by your posting history, you have a room temperature iq at best and this likely explains your lack of success with the language.

for those who are slightly more gifted, listening to spanish radio in your takes no actual study time and does sink in after a while. boring and vapid, but even more effective, is watching spanish soap operas (telenovelas). watching a mix of english tv with spanish subtitles and spanish tv with english subtitles is also a good way to learn. or buy an english language and spanish language newspaper from the same date and location. then once you get a bit of background, write down unfamiliar words you see on the street and look them up later.

reading simple novels like treasure island, the adventures of tom sawyer, and rain man was helpful to me as i advanced in skill. i already knew the plot so i could glean the meaning of some unfamiliar words without stopping to look them up. this helped build my reading speed once i was already fairly fluid in my speech.

then at some point you have to immerse yourself in situations where you cannot fall back on your native language. spending time with prostitutes is one way to accomplish this, as is going to bum fuck towns in the middle of nowhere, where even the people working in the hospitality industry have little or no english.hey, listen to me dickhead (i am having fun writing this to someone who calls himself dickhead lol) ,

i too have been struggling with these issues. i have tried community college courses, tapes, computer courses. by far the most sucessful for me has been my one-on-one skype internet lessons. i have a lady in ecuador that i take lessons with. i pay her $8. 00 per hour. she is a professional spanish teacher with 12 years of experience. the advantages of doing it this way are numerous. you get instant feedback on everything with a a very friendly and encouraging person. you learn at your own pace. when i first started, i could barely string a sentence together. now, at the beginning of every lesson we spend about 10 minutes of everyday chit-chat (like you would have with a chica you just met). i now hold normal conversations in spanish. at her price point, i will continue to take lessons for a long, long time. if you would like contact info, please send me a private message.

[Manizales911]

Hey, listen to me dickhead (I am having fun writing this to someone who calls himself dickhead LOL) ,

I too have been struggling with these issues. I have tried community college courses, tapes, computer courses. By far the most sucessful for me has been my one-on-one Skype Internet lessons. I have a lady in Ecuador that I take lessons with. I pay her $8. 00 per hour. She is a professional Spanish teacher with 12 years of experience. The advantages of doing it this way are numerous. You get instant feedback on everything with a a very friendly and encouraging person. You learn at your own pace. When I first started, I could barely string a sentence together. Now, at the beginning of every lesson we spend about 10 minutes of everyday chit-chat (like you would have with a chica you just met). I now hold normal conversations in Spanish. At her price point, I will continue to take lessons for a long, long time. If you would like contact info, please send me a private message.Why not befriend a girl online that lives in a spanish speaking country and talk to her on Skype and save the $8 an hour for buying more pussy. I have two girls I speak with on Skype, one of which I speak to every night for about two hours. It has helped me tremendously.

[SlamCity7777]

Why not befriend a girl online that lives in a spanish speaking country and talk to her on Skype and save the $8 an hour for buying more pussy. I have two girls I speak with on Skype, one of which I speak to every night for about two hours. It has helped me tremendously.$8USD an hour? That girl is stoked! Tax free that's more than most people make an hour in the USA take home. AND she didn't have to put some dude's wrinkled balls in her mouth!

Language is alive you have to experience it to truly lean it. Like when you were a kid; mom or dad just tossed the kids into the pool to teach them to swim. Same thing!