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BrasilSoccer0
09-02-12, 20:33
Okay that test one was way over the limit for. Jpg files but it made it. I guess admin forgot to update the file attachment new size limits.

Ezyngo, I go to the mayo a lot and can't recall that night but I get a good experiences there. As far as the senior thing, your answer was troubling that it is automatic but not surprising. I think I want to stay regular member, at least I can have an excuse. LOL

BrasilSoccer0
09-02-12, 20:44
One of the nicest tits I enjoyed. She is the calena who told me had a girlfriend. I believe she just wanted some financial help at the time as I didn't see her again. A little too hairy for my taste but her curves made the a big difference.

BrasilSoccer0
09-02-12, 20:51
This is a repeat from previous trips. Nice body and great attitude. Real sweet girl, pero si tira sakol en esos dias.

A shot of the calena with me at crepes in premium plaza.

And a shot of gloria. What a nice body for a 31yrs old and those are unenhanced buttocks. I was really a skeptic, especially since I know she has a rich dad.

BrasilSoccer0
09-02-12, 20:58
More of gloria's ass. The next is a repeat but won't recommend this time was a total disappointment. Maybe having two kids have lowered her libido and energy or something. Her tits definitely took a beating from child birth since my previous trips. A gem who didn't shine long enough.

BrasilSoccer0
09-02-12, 21:04
The two girls from the taxi guy.

BrasilSoccer0
09-02-12, 21:11
More of my best experience chica and a shot of a girl I did in ejecutivo. Great service. Got rock hard body and high energy. Didn't get tired or complain and I did her right after she did her pole dancing. Told her to go shower and then to call me to the room when she is done and she did. There was a great ass black girl on another day but she wanted 70. I declined as I didn't want word spreading out among the chicas. But she had a fenomenal body. Maracaibo was a big disappointment on many occasions this trip I stopped going there.

BrasilSoccer0
09-02-12, 21:17
Same chick from ejecutivo and another from the mayo.

BrasilSoccer0
09-02-12, 21:22
More of the two from before. And the one in blue lighting is from NL.

BrasilSoccer0
09-02-12, 21:29
This one is a new girl in the topless casa. What a great firm body she has. Great service. Too bad she was taken under the wings of alejandra a well experienced morena / india who was giving her bad advice. I tried to arrange for a domicilio but when she calls me I can hear alejandra on the background. I never get it! This has always mad me angry. It's as though these bitter bitches brain wash these newbies into believing we are bad people and should milk us for the most money for the least service.

Oh. The end.

Be safe. Medellin is getting hotter these days. More crime and more murders. I think Santos is too weak. I wish Uribe can be reelected.

Midwest
09-02-12, 21:43
Looks like you just posted one.

In the future, you might want to post them in the photo gallery.

I just finally posted some from '09.

In addition to Jackson suggestions, you might want to try Faststone Image viewer.

I was able to resize. Watermark & blur out faces with it.

Hope this helps.


Any suggestions on where to post the photos and how to size them to fit for posting? I have them on my Apple laptop.

BS.

Hillbilly69
09-03-12, 12:38
Pay attention to the bottom paragraph Matt P something I already told you and you can't find in your library studies.

This isn't the complete page too fricking big, sorry.

http://www.expat-chronicles.com/2012/09/noah-goldberg-medellin-colombia-sex-tourism/

48-year-old US citizen Noah Goldberg was shot dead in May 2012, the second American killed in Medellin that year. Medellin is prone to gang violence, but I never felt unsafe during my three trips totaling over 6 weeks. When I read about gringos getting killed, I always wonder how it went down. Botched robbery? Drunken argument?

And I always conclude that Medellin may not be as safe as it feels. However, there's more to the Goldberg story than was reported. The newspapers mentioned that Goldberg ran a travel agency, but none reported that it catered to sex tourism. I only learned recently from an offhand reader email. I started researching the case and wound up going down the rabbit hole. Goldberg's death was an international news story, and the public largely concluded that his murder was random (myself included). The city of Medellin and greater Colombia undeservedly took the blame. However, random violence didn't kill Noah Goldberg.

Like Goldberg, I also did brothel tours. But there were huge differences between how Goldberg and I managed our businesses – mainly in what I call 'Push vs. Pull' marketing. The fact that I didn't know who Goldberg was when he was murdered goes to show how much I wasn't plugged into the sex tourism community. I did little to promote my tours. My attitude was, 'I'll throw a site up. If someone bites, great. ' I threw a site up, linked to it from my blog, and that was it. I only found out about the sex tourism forums when clients told me. A few had mentioned me. Still, I never joined or pursued them. A gringo buddy used to pressure me to print business cards and promote in the tourist areas, but I never did. I never worked out deals with hotels. A few brothels offered commission, which I took. But my entire marketing efforts included nothing more than the website. At the first sign of stress, I closed shop.

Goldberg, on the other hand, pushed his tours. He was well known on sex tourism forums, **************. Com (CRT) and InternationalSexGuide. Info (ISG). He offered discounts for CRT members – a paid membership focusing on Costa Rica. He had a reputation among the *****mongers ('mongers') as a shameless self-promoter. He worked out deals with hotels to create sex tourism travel packages. He got cuts from every angle. He was building and promoting a full-time sex tourism business with multiple revenue streams. He was immersed in the industry.

Before setting up shop in Medellin, Goldberg briefly worked in Latin America's sex tourism capital, San Jose, Costa Rica. He quickly made many enemies and moved to Colombia. Much of this article uses less-than-concrete sources. However, this much has been established as fact:

Noah Goldberg ran Medellin Paisa Tours, a travel agency catering to sex tourism. He made enemies in Costa Rica and Colombia.

He was killed while with a client.

In addition to Medellin Paisa Tours, Goldberg had begun loaning money in Medellin.

He was killed by two gunmen who were drinking beer at an adjacent table. There were no words beforehand, no argument. There was no robbery. They stood up, produced pistols, and shot him twice – once in the head, once in the shoulder.

That's been established. The rest of this article is based on anonymous witnesses, forum posts, etc.

Here's a detailed testimonial of Goldberg's services:

Medellin Paisa Tour Update:

After coming back from Santa Fe, we decided to extend our trip and see more of Medellin. There was a last-minute cancellation of a reservation in this penthouse in Castropol, Poblado. And Medellin Paisa hooked us up with a great deal. So we decided to stay for 3 more days, and our friend from Miami flew in and we stayed in this 5-br penthouse overlooking the city. Incredible place, great deal, with views of the whole city. Party palace.

Got set up with a private chef. Amazing Italian meal. We then sat in the group jacuzzi.

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The more I saw there, the more I smiled. Friends and I were hooked up with amazing women. No bs, no clock-watchers, and not one time did any of them pick up their cell phones. Original deal was for 3 hours with them, and they stayed and partied with us all night. The girls left in the morning and thanked us for a good time.

To add icing to the cake, for our final night, Medellin Paisa kept talking about our 'final surprise'. We all took naps in the afternoon and then went out for a nice seafood dinner somewhere off 'La Setenta'. I had a delicious red snapper, my friends were all happy. When we asked what the surprise was, he kept smiling his devilish smile. At this point, it was just Medellin Paisa's crew and our crew, which was all guys. We kept wondering when we were going to see some women.

When the surprise was finally unveiled, we were all pleasantly surprised. We were taken to this discrete, and very private after hours club.

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The place was somewhere close to Estadio off one of the circles. We went up to the gate, and were welcomed in and escorted to the second floor, where there was a bar, a dance floor with a pole, and many lounge rooms. In the far back, is an outdoor terrace, where people were smoking cigarettes and talking. The management and staff clearly knew Medellin Paisa very well.

Everyone came up and gave him a kiss or shook his hand. We were given a bottle of aguardiente on the house, and escorted to a private lounge with couches and tables. It was a very relaxed atmosphere. We sat down, and immediately were greeted by 6 beautiful paisas who asked us if there was anything we needed. I ordered a beer for myself and friends, and was pleasantly surprised it only cost 3000 pesos / beer.

We watched some girls dance, the owner, a beautiful blonde paisa, came over and sat down to talk with us. We spent a couple hours just chatting and drinking with the women. No one ever asked us for anything. No pressure at all.

At 2:30 in the morning, I heard the doorbell ring, saw 4 taxi's down on the street with women pouring out of them. About 15-20 women walked through the door, and we had the choice of women in the place. I chose a tall, black haired beauty from Baranquilla. Rocked my world, and only for 70, 000 pesos. She eventually came home with me.

I was surprised to see the sun rising. Had no idea how much time had passed.

Lucky we still made our flight at 2 pm. The last night was definitely one of the most interesting nights of my life, still with a smile on my face as I type this.

See two more testimonials.

Clients could book an entire tour on the Medellin Paisa Tours website. His prices reflected up to a 50% markup on hotel rooms. He charged $65 USD taxi from the airport (which should never be more than 65, 000 pesos). This is how Goldberg irked many in the mongers community, which organized to share information and benefit from collective knowledge. One monger published this sarcastic post, summing up the mongers' criticisms of Goldberg:

I just spent a week in Medellin and I booked my trip thru Medellin Paisa. He had a car waiting for me at the airport for $65. Its okay that the actual rate is about $50, since I was informed that you could get kidnapped if you just grab any taxi.

The Lincoln Hotel was very good. They were kind to tell me that we Americans can not book direct and get the $60 rates because of some law there so we must book thru a third party and pay about 40% more.

Medellin Paisa introduced me to a few very nice ladies. I thought the $150 a night rate was high but they said it was fair. It was strange that no Colombian women give blowjobs, They all hate it.

I don not understand why I need to send them Western Union but, they are poor, so what the Hell.

Everyday I was informed of the multiple muggings all around town and the many hotel break ins.

I am glad I have a friend for life now. This was the best $5, 000 vacation that I ever had.

When these criticisms were leveled, Goldberg often mocked and insulted the members. Here's a senior monger admonishing him:

CRT members can be tough and demanding with their service providers. Fortunately, the successful CRT sponsors live and breath customer service, have very thick skin and offer decent value for their goods or services. You can learn alot from the gulch business owners who address issues and complaints on here. They listen to the feedback from the guys on here and make adjustments accordingly without feeling hurt and throwing insults at potential customers. If a provider offers a decent product, the positive posts you read on here are just the tip of the iceberg. The meaningful, market-capturing kudos are spread via word of mouth & private conversations. Maybe, it's time to step back and re-evaluate if your business model is not working as planned. Your business should give your customers the product they want at a price that is 'fair and reasonable'. Good luck.

Goldberg was known to emphasize the danger in Colombia and drop scopolamine warnings. This is not uncommon among legit tour guides I know in Colombia. I've never seen anyone do it to the extent he did, but some gringo tour guides exaggerate the danger to justify taking personalized tours. And scopolamine should be on the radar of gringos visiting Colombia, especially if they're going to be partying with prostitutes.

Here are selections showing Goldberg's emphasis on the security element in his services:

There are many places in Medellin that are not for the faint-of-heart. The trick is to be discrete! Todo es Muy Discreto en Medallo.

For example, despite what he says, this Club is not for a guy like Bbrocs who speaks absolutely no Spanish & must rely on his right-hand-man to act as translator & protector. If you offend the wrong person you may be on your last trip to Medallo!

But the members on this Board seemed to express a true interest in visiting this type of Club (there are many more of these types of underground clubs in Medallo). It can be a lot of fun if you have the street smarts & know how to talk the talk!

I have brought many friends to this Club & they have had a fantastic time! Take a look at the Trip Report by Kansas Cowboy on the first page in this ever-expanding thread. He & his crew had an amazing evening!

Medellin can be a dangerous place but the owner of this Club is a wonderful woman (Her name is Kate La Gata) who has expressed an interest in entertaining foreigners. I always feel more than welcome in her Casa.

Just remember that the Narcos like to share their chicas. If a fellow guest expresses an interest in your chica de noche I would suggest that you offer to share. In return they will share their chicas with you!

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I don't just provide translator services. I have a five man crew of guides and we watch the back of our clients (I know the owners & security at the Club as well).

But at the same time I would never bring a loud-mouth client to this Club (Wink-Wink). It would only be a headache for everyone involved!

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The point I was trying to make regarding Bbrocs is that, whether you speak Spanish or not, if you don't know 'PEOPLE'down here in Medallo you put yourself at some risk.

I don't have a corner on this market (knowing People) but I take my guide responsibilities seriously & would never put a client / friend at risk. If a client wants to take a Walk on the Wildside an important part of our job is to make sure that they can focus on enjoying themselves & not have to worry about anything. If a situation arises where it becomes unsafe for our clients, myself & my crew of guides will firmly suggest that it is time to move on. Our job is to anticipate any type of trouble before it even happens. Being a good Brujo is part of what we are all about!

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Once again, I would strongly advise that you only visit this type of Casa if you are capable of reading the eyes of people (I. E you have street-smarts). Just relying on a translator can get you in a lot of trouble. Many Colombians would never consider frequenting this type of Casa.

As they say down here in PaisaLandia.

Usted tiene que leer los ojos de la gente!

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Let's wait to see & hear from the CRT Membership what kind of experiences they have at the Club. If there is a positive response from both the CRT Membership as well as the owner / staff of the Club I will be happy to include the addresses of other locations. I am being a little bit cautious because I am not completely confident that CRT members can go to a place like this without a proper escort. Perhaps, Jimmy will volunteer to be our test case! If he survives the experience it will prove that almost anyone can go to this type of Club!

To answer your question: The Club is both eat-in & take-out. There is no bar fine involved! But the Club has certain chicas that are on staff & these chicas are not allowed to leave with a client. But at the same time many chicas just show up to party (usually after 2 am) & are free to leave with a potential client, or rent one of the rooms for a private party. Generally the rates for a chica and room are only $70, 000. Pesos for an hour but I don't want to commit to this price quote because it can depend on the chica & the type of customer (I. E. YMMV). Also please remember that many of these chicas have never met / nor been with a gringo before. They are Narco Party Girls but you need to be very careful with them if you decide to leave with one of them. I would suggest that for first encounters that you party in the club & rent one of the rooms.

One more bit of advice:

This is not the kind of Casa where you just pop-in to take a look at the menu like other Casas in El Centro! The etiquette is that you come in. They show you to a lounge area. You buy a drink (Only $4, 000 pesos for a beer) & other optional party favors. And then you invite the chicas in to your lounge area to party with you. If you want to just pop-in for 5 minutes I seriously doubt that they will ever let you back in through the front door ever again. They also might suspect you of being a DEA agent or some other type of police officer! LOL!

Just remember that this is an underground type of Club. There are rules that must be followed, and these rules are not written down!

That is why I strongly suggest that if you frequent a club like this that you go with someone who has experience dealing with this form of Paisa Entertainment. It is highly unlikely that you will see other Gringos in this type of Club!

He was eventually banned from **************, so he migrated to InternationalSexGuide. From ISG, here's Goldberg attacking another brothel tour guide:

Thank God I am not Colombia Jake. Most of his clients seem to get Drugged these days if the rumors are true. Unlike Jake I am fluent in English, Spanish, French & Hebrew!

I am not on steroids, just living the dream in PaisaLandia! I know Medallo in a way that most Gringos will never know the City of Eternal Spring.

Don't be jealous, because I love to share my knowledge. LOL! Maybe I will throw you a bone just like I have done for TweedleD & Legal Tender. Assuming you will be nice & sweet to me! LOL!

If I come across as if I am on steroids it is only because I provide a very special VIP Concierge service to my clients and that is why I am almost completely booked for the next 5 months.

Colombia Jake is scrounging for clients at the Poblado Metro station. LOL! While I deal in geishas and offer tours of the surrounding pueblos & comunas.

I know Jake & I would never consider him a friend but he aint a bad guy! No! Really!

Before the next two posts, an anecdote about this industry. I once met an American in Bogota on business who had gone to an upscale northern *****house. His tab was well over $1, 000 USD, and he and his buddies were still partying when he was summoned by the manager. My acquaintance brought his translator and sat with the manager's entourage. After the manager spoke, the translator told my acquaintance to thank the manager for letting him drink with him. The translator helped my acquaintance in saying the words to thank the manager for letting him drink at his brothel.

That brothel is most likely a money-laundering operation for narcos. Any manager who wanted to run a legal, profitable brothel would be thanking and kissing the ass of a customer who drops over a grand in one night. However, this brothel doesn't need to be a profit center. In fact, it may be able to launder more cocaine profit if it's not. This money-laundering brothel manager . Probably not a powerful position within his organization – felt he was being shown up by the gringo with deep pockets, and decided to throw his weight around.

The point of this story is to illustrate who's running many of the legal brothels – narcos. They don't only run brothels, they launder money in a variety of industries: hotels, cell phones, anything. But narco money-laundering operations are especially popular in the sex industry. And they don't announce to clients and tour guides that they're money-hemorrhaging fronts for other operations. Keep that in mind when reading these next passages.

Almotu
09-03-12, 13:34
A shot of the calena with me at crepes in premium plaza.She looks very cute in this casual photo (photo 3 from the left). Do you have any more intimate photos of this chica that you can share? How much was her fee? PM me if you could give me details on how I can get in touch with her. I am in Medellin until Sunday. Many thanks.

Nino Bravo
09-03-12, 13:46
Very imformative Nino, thank you. I've read of cycles of HGH of about a month. I'll be there 2 months and will be using it for the whole time if not too expensive. I've also read that small dosis don't work too well and most people get discourage because of the high price tag and little results at small dosages. As for Teste. What I've used weekly is 200 cc and it has a 6 day life, I'm confused when you say 1cc, unless the measuring in Colombia is different.You're welcome Frank!

To clear things up on the testosterone. Remember 1 cc is the same as one ml. If you have testosterone 200 mg / ml or 200 mg / cc, it's basically the strength of the testosterone. In your case there are 200 mg of test per ml of liquid. The 1 cc or 1 ml that I was referring to was the injection doseage, or in my case I fill the syringe to 1 cc or 1 ml on the syringe for injection. I normally use a test that is 250 mg / ml.

Regarding your HgH, if you want to see quick positive effects in a 2 month time frame, you need to be injecting 4 or 5 iu's daily or minimum 5 days a week. This is what a competitive body builder would take before a competition, or a pro athlete to recover from an injury. And yes, it's expensive, but again very beneficial. Every man 45 or older should seriously consider HGH AND testosterone replacement therapy.

Member #4394
09-03-12, 16:44
I was skeptical about the idea that the casas are run by the "FARC," if not drug cartels. You know Medellin better than I do anyway. Good article. Thank you.


Pay attention to the bottom paragraph Matt P something I already told you and you can't find in your library studies.

Frank Casio
09-03-12, 17:46
Hi Nino,

Thanks again for the info. But if I take the 4-5 IU, would I have to work out like a body builder? And what's the heads up on any sexual positive side effects, potency, libido, etc. And do you no prices in Medellin for a daily 4-5 IU dose?


You're welcome Frank!

To clear things up on the testosterone. Remember 1 cc is the same as one ml. If you have testosterone 200 mg / ml or 200 mg / cc, it's basically the strength of the testosterone. In your case there are 200 mg of test per ml of liquid. The 1 cc or 1 ml that I was referring to was the injection doseage, or in my case I fill the syringe to 1 cc or 1 ml on the syringe for injection. I normally use a test that is 250 mg / ml.

Regarding your HgH, if you want to see quick positive effects in a 2 month time frame, you need to be injecting 4 or 5 iu's daily or minimum 5 days a week. This is what a competitive body builder would take before a competition, or a pro athlete to recover from an injury. And yes, it's expensive, but again very beneficial. Every man 45 or older should seriously consider HGH AND testosterone replacement therapy.

Legal Tender
09-03-12, 18:41
For the life of me, I can't understand why anyone would want to remember a departed soul with such critical and unflattering remembrances. Noah, was all of that which has been written about him. I considered Noah a friend, but because of his situation near the end of his life, he was not capable of being a friend to anyone. Unfortunately, his addiction to cocaine changed his personality, became his only interest in life, and I'm sure had something to do with his death. He has been dead over three months now, so what is the purpose in bringing up the unpleasant truth of this tormented individual? I just don't "get it."

Ordinarily, what one writes about another says more about the author than the subject, but what Hillbilly has written is sadly true. I prefer to remember the time that I remember Noah when he was a kind and compassionate human being. I recall him going to Exito and spending a chunk of cash to buy food for families in one of the poorest bario. The drug induced aggression and paranoia certainly brought out the worst in him. Let him rest in peace.

Noah was not easy to always like, and certainly a challenge to those who choose to love him. Monica, his long time novia, post photographs of him regularly, always lamenting her loss. What I've learned is that there was one gringo whose Paisa woman loved him and continues to morn his loss. As so it goes.

The truth is not always pleasant, and Hillbilly has written it. But that detour is of no benefit that I can see. Man, that was a bummer, we need only good energy. We all see enough shit to last us a lifetime.

Infamous Man
09-03-12, 18:58
Man I been looking for info on this.

Hey niño where can I find some good "JUICE" in Medellin.

& is shipping this stuff thru postal back to the States a guarantee OK.


You're welcome Frank!

To clear things up on the testosterone. Remember 1 cc is the same as one ml. If you have testosterone 200 mg / ml or 200 mg / cc, it's basically the strength of the testosterone. In your case there are 200 mg of test per ml of liquid. The 1 cc or 1 ml that I was referring to was the injection doseage, or in my case I fill the syringe to 1 cc or 1 ml on the syringe for injection. I normally use a test that is 250 mg / ml.

Regarding your HgH, if you want to see quick positive effects in a 2 month time frame, you need to be injecting 4 or 5 iu's daily or minimum 5 days a week. This is what a competitive body builder would take before a competition, or a pro athlete to recover from an injury. And yes, it's expensive, but again very beneficial. Every man 45 or older should seriously consider HGH AND testosterone replacement therapy.

Ezyngo
09-03-12, 19:35
He has been dead over three months now, so what is the purpose in bringing up the unpleasant truth of this tormented individual? I just don't "get it."Over the years, we have seen quite a few 'ruminant' posters on this Medellin thread. There is no end in sight, near or far. But at any rate,

Cheers.

Reefski
09-03-12, 19:37
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Legal Tender
09-03-12, 20:50
I would have imagined with your beliefs in eastern religions and karma you'd be okay with the concept of reaping what you sow.

I thought Hillbilly's post offered an interesting insight into MP's downward spiral and why so many people saw a different side of him. Seemed to depend on how many lines he had snorted that day.

Reef. OGE!Reef, we agree on many things. No doubt with his choices, Noah's end was predictable.

Infamous Man
09-03-12, 22:53
Soo I been to DR.

Jamaica & other places.

Is the Mansion just as Blackbeards in DR.

Would I do fine with my broken Spanish?

Is it as easy hunting on the streets & just walking into a casa in el centro?

HectorSanchez
09-04-12, 02:47
I will be in Columbia for last 2 weeks of October. Any company would be great. Beer on me. LOL.

I have mongered in Costa rica and mexico before but it would be my first time in Columbia.

It will be pleasant experience if I have some company.

Thanks.

Colombia Jake
09-04-12, 18:17
Matt has arrived and through half his stay everything has been great! Security guards do help plus the fact that I set him up with a sweetheart and he even took her to Santa Marta for a few days. Photo's. Returns to Medellin tomorrow and we'll see if the last 6 days of his stay here go without a hitch? I will let you know!

Clean trip with nothing but good memories! Matt flew out today back to the polar bears and eskimos! Says he will return around the 1st of Oct for another adventure. Going to stay with me for the first few days and takehis time finding an apartment that fits his criteria exactly before he moves out. I think its a great idea rather than taking a chance with the pictures and info over the internet which often times turns out to be like an over priced hooker. You come away feeling ripped off!

Almotu
09-05-12, 03:00
NSD: I suggest you post your trip dates in the Travel Announcements thread so other mongers that want to hang can get in touch.

Infamous: Any level of Spanish would be better than none. Hand gestures can usually help get your point across. I have never been to Blackbeards so can't compare the Casablanca properties to it. If you can find availability it is always a good idea to spend a few days there because it is structured to help a first time traveler to Medellin. I am not sure if your comment about hunting in the streets means streetwalkers. There are several SW areas listed in the Medellin Lists section. Most of them I would not go after dark. YMMV. As for casas, once you have the list of addresses and the google map it is the easiest way to get FS in Medellin.

Aussie Greg
09-06-12, 03:11
[QUOTE=Infamous Man; 1323330]

Is the Mansion just as Blackbeards in DR.

Fuck no!
A. G.

Arjay
09-06-12, 03:22
Matt has arrived and through half his stay everything has been great! Security guards do help plus the fact that I set him up with a sweetheart and he even took her to Santa Marta for a few days. Photo's. Returns to Medellin tomorrow and we'll see if the last 6 days of his stay here go without a hitch? I will let you know!

Clean trip with nothing but good memories! Matt flew out today back to the polar bears and eskimos! Says he will return around the 1st of Oct for another adventure. Going to stay with me for the first few days and takehis time finding an apartment that fits his criteria exactly before he moves out. I think its a great idea rather than taking a chance with the pictures and info over the internet which often times turns out to be like an over priced hooker. You come away feeling ripped off!I'm planning on Medellin in the next 2 weeks or so. I also want to go to Santa Marta. Can you post picture of the chica? You can also PM me and I'll send my e-mail. Thanks, Arjay

Member #4394
09-06-12, 03:28
He is a troll.


I'm planning on Medellin in the next 2 weeks or so. I also want to go to Santa Marta. Can you post picture of the chica? You can also PM me and I'll send my e-mail. Thanks, Arjay

HectorSanchez
09-06-12, 04:59
Guys I wil be in madellin last 2 weeks of October.

Please any company from ISG?

Beer on me. Ok I will go higher this time.

YOUR FIRST PUSSY CHARGES ON ME TOO. Common guys I need a company. Or else I can't go to Columbia. LOL

Arjay
09-06-12, 05:26
He is a troll.Thanks Matt. Others have also posted negative vibes on him especially about his "night tours". I was just curious what the paisa looked liked that he claimed went to Santa Marta. Maybe see you in Medellin one day. Arjay

Legal Tender
09-06-12, 05:52
Guys I wil be in madellin last 2 weeks of October.

Please any company from ISG?

Beer on me. Ok I will go higher this time.

YOUR FIRST PUSSY CHARGES ON ME TOO. Common guys I need a company. Or else I can't go to Columbia. LOLStay at the Hotel Medellin Plaza, formerly the Mansion. You'll find fellow mongers, all of whom will know more than you, and most will be happy to introduce you to what they know. But, remember, Medellin is our secret.

Only good energy

Arjay
09-06-12, 05:55
Guys I wil be in madellin last 2 weeks of October.

Please any company from ISG?

Beer on me. Ok I will go higher this time.

YOUR FIRST PUSSY CHARGES ON ME TOO. Common guys I need a company. Or else I can't go to Columbia. LOLI'll be in Medellin during October. You can PM me. Drinks Ok but, I have a novia. Arjay

Ezyngo
09-06-12, 15:49
YOUR FIRST PUSSY CHARGES ON ME TOO.It can be very expensive. I'd be the first one to take up on that offer if you do not back out. At any rate,

Cheers.

Aussie Greg
09-06-12, 19:19
sex isn't for the squeamish, sex is a exchange of body fluids, saliva, breath and smells, [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), semen, shit, sweat, microbes, bacteria.

a. g.

MiamiHeatLuver
09-06-12, 21:58
sex isn't for the squeamish, sex is a exchange of body fluids, saliva, breath and smells, [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), semen, shit, sweat, microbes, bacteria.

a. g.not sure where you're going with this post ag but i bet you exchange all of those goodies in one session! jejejejejejeje lol

Aussie Greg
09-07-12, 01:32
Not sure where you're going with this post AG but I bet you exchange all of those goodies in one session! Jejejejejejeje LOL

Hey MHL, I enjoy sex even if it means I got to change the sheets more often mate.

A. G.

MiamiHeatLuver
09-07-12, 01:51
Hey MHL, I enjoy sex even if it means I got to change the sheets more often mate.

A. G.Jejejejejeje, funny, you're too much mate LOL. Cheers!

Kickboxer151
09-07-12, 22:52
NSD: I suggest you post your trip dates in the Travel Announcements thread so other mongers that want to hang can get in touch.

Infamous: Any level of Spanish would be better than none. Hand gestures can usually help get your point across. I have never been to Blackbeards so can't compare the Casablanca properties to it. If you can find availability it is always a good idea to spend a few days there because it is structured to help a first time traveler to Medellin. I am not sure if your comment about hunting in the streets means streetwalkers. There are several SW areas listed in the Medellin Lists section. Most of them I would not go after dark. YMMV. As for casas, once you have the list of addresses and the google map it is the easiest way to get FS in Medellin.Hey Buddy:

Saw you walking in central today about 12 noon.

How long you in town? Just paid for PM service here and awaiting it to be activated so I can chat with you.

KB151

Colombia Jake
09-08-12, 18:31
There is something special about this town that keeps guys coming back for more! Eric arrived two days ago from Clearwater, Florida for the second times in three months. Eric who lost his wife to cancer a year ago decided to rediscover Medellin after coming here over 30 years ago on his honeymoon. He had no idea what to expect but off we went to see if some of the places he remembered from all those years ago still existed. There was a restaurant where he had the most delicious rabbit he had ever tasted but what restaurant stays in business that long? Never did find it but it didn't matter because there is so many other things to see and do in the this town that he quickly forgot all about it. After being with the same women for the majority of his life, I didn't know what to expect when I introduced him to the young beautiful Paisa's. I shouldn't have been surprised when he fell in love again and again!

HectorSanchez
09-09-12, 02:04
Common man. I won't back out. Just choose the women with the ongoing rate. A great company will far outweigh the benefits against the pussy charges. LOL.


It can be very expensive. I'd be the first one to take up on that offer if you do not back out. At any rate,

Cheers.

Dickhead
09-09-12, 05:53
sex isn't for the squeamish, sex is a exchange of body fluids, saliva, breath and smells, [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), semen, shit, sweat, microbes, bacteria.

a. g.if sex for you involves an exchange of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109), you might be drinking too much. i mean, if you are just pissing all over her that is one thing but an "exchange"? if sex for you involves an exchange of shit, it's even more likely you are drinking too much, since we know you aren't german.

World Travel 69
09-09-12, 15:52
Here is one that is supposed to be safe.
They were offering free samples. I got them, but because I am not traveling anywhere soon, I have not tried it.

X180.

http://www.howlifeworks.com/Article.aspx?Cat_URL=health_beauty&AG_URL=How_to_Quickly_Boost_Your_Testosterone_for_Increased_Performance_441&AG_ID=1275&cid=8088nu_news_z


Hi guy,

I use one in Envigado, it's too complicated to explain how to get there, but I'll be in Medellin myself next week and might be able to take you and tell you the brand I use. You can find Teste. In just about any pharmacy, but some will administer it to you and others will ask for a Dr. 's prescription. So you will have to shop around. It's very cheap, around $6-7US for 250 IU. I told one of my older guests about it and he started using them every time he visits and is very happy. I'm going to start using again as I am more calmed down now. Keep in touch, message me and I'll give you more info as soon as I arrive in Medellin in a couple days.

Nino Bravo
09-09-12, 16:40
Hi Nino,

Thanks again for the info. But if I take the 4-5 IU, would I have to work out like a body builder? And what's the heads up on any sexual positive side effects, potency, libido, etc. And do you no prices in Medellin for a daily 4-5 IU dose?Frank,

I wouldn't recommend that anyone take 4-5 units for the short run. HGH really needs to be a long term therapy. 1-2 units. 5-7 times a week for the rest of one's life. I cycle off of it when I travel, which is recommended a few times a year. Usually a month at a time. This allows the body to continue to make growth hormone naturally instead of becoming totally dependent on the injections. So I really can't help you with sources or prices in Medellin.

Hope this helps!

Nino Bravo
09-09-12, 16:45
Here is one that is supposed to be safe.

They were offering free samples. I got them, but because I am not traveling anywhere soon, I have not tried it.

X180.

http://www.howlifeworks.com/Article.aspx?Cat_URL=health_beauty&AG_URL=How_to_Quickly_Boost_Your_Testosterone_for_Increased_Performance_441&AG_ID=1275&cid=8088nu_news_zRemember, that article is an advertisement. I really don't think these test booster supplements do much good, especially if your test levels are low. Patches are good, but if you really want to see results, you need to being doing injections. I doubt very much the older fellow in the picture in that article is taking the supplements, but I would bet the ranch that he has been injecting test for quite a while.

Ezyngo
09-09-12, 20:01
Common man. I won't back out. Just choose the women with the ongoing rate. A great company will far outweigh the benefits against the pussy charges. LOL.You already know my travel plan for October. Keep in touch.

Cheers.

DavidNelson
09-11-12, 01:02
How is pricing vs 2 years ago? Is access to top tier girls easier? I was with 8s but saw 12s out.

ChickChaser
09-11-12, 01:21
Remember, that article is an advertisement. I really don't think these test booster supplements do much good, especially if your test levels are low. Patches are good, but if you really want to see results, you need to being doing injections. I doubt very much the older fellow in the picture in that article is taking the supplements, but I would bet the ranch that he has been injecting test for quite a while.Bad reviews online for that supplement.

Arjay
09-11-12, 10:16
Interested in the girl line up there. Names pictures? Last time I was disappointed with the girls there. Deciding if its worth it or CTG?

El Bacano
09-11-12, 20:51
Medellin is for Men, Cartagena is for tourist like Costa Rica. ? Hense, I stick with Medellin

MiamiHeatLuver
09-11-12, 21:34
Medellin is for MenMedellin is for men? This forum is about consensual HETEROsexuxal p4p between a man and a women! Let's stick to the subject and keep your homo fantasies out of this forum!!

Vitrea
09-12-12, 04:43
A prepago will be very mad if you say that to her. She needs economic support, but never, she would say that she is a prepago. If she does, they usually try you to pay like 500k COP, for services that Colombian hardly pays 100k for.

But you have it good with a semi-prepago to. Just be generous to what yourself feels right, the numbers you have on this site in 10k reports from Medellin.

My tactic was to visit Energy, it was different house-rules in 2009, and prepagos in that have an apartment, for 100-150k.

Then afterwards, you can take that well edcucated, maybe english speaking girl out to dinner. Fully relaxed.

That was my game. Now when my spanish is much better I don't really need prepagos, my friends provide me with dates. Can't get any better than that. However, a good prepago always taste like a cold Carlsberg, probably the best sex.I like BV's Modus Operandi. Are there any casas like that in MDE (or Cali) where I may find girls that are likely to go out to dinner and dancing? I understand it is a hit or miss but if anyone has any success stories, I would love to hear.

I am sure the girls from Clubs will be happy to do but it might cost a bit. My buddy and I did that in CTG and it was a blast.

Arjay
09-12-12, 05:10
I like BV's Modus Operandi. Are there any casas like that in MDE (or Cali) where I may find girls that are likely to go out to dinner and dancing? I understand it is a hit or miss but if anyone has any success stories, I would love to hear.

I am sure the girls from Clubs will be happy to do but it might cost a bit. My buddy and I did that in CTG and it was a blast.It's called chemistry. No rules for that in any casa. Either you got it with a prepago or don't. In other words if they like you they will.

Ricker
09-12-12, 18:05
I like BV's Modus Operandi. Are there any casas like that in MDE (or Cali) where I may find girls that are likely to go out to dinner and dancing? I understand it is a hit or miss but if anyone has any success stories, I would love to hear.

I am sure the girls from Clubs will be happy to do but it might cost a bit. My buddy and I did that in CTG and it was a blast.Good luck amigo.

I tried to answer your PM, however, your Inbox was full.

Take care.

Aussie Greg
09-12-12, 23:37
Medellin is for Men, Cartagena is for tourist like Costa Rica. ? Hense, I stick with Medellin

When talking to people and they say, I've been to Colombia, and I say where in Colombia, they say Cartagena, my answer.
Thats not real Colombia, Cartagena is a tourist rip off but I must say, a nice old city.
A. G.

Vitrea
09-13-12, 06:25
Good luck amigo.

I tried to answer your PM, however, your Inbox was full.

Take care.Sorry about that. I did not realize till I saw your post and thank you for letting me know. I just emptied it.

Member #4244
09-15-12, 03:14
How is pricing vs 2 years ago? Is access to top tier girls easier? I was with 8s but saw 12s out.Prices are only slightly higher, lower increases than most cities in that time span. That said, the exchange rate is much worse for dollar, euro, etc than it was in say 2009.

Access to top tier girls I would say is slightly tougher. There is a bit more attention and opportunity so I would say average prepago appearance has gone down and the regular girls are more aware of their, hmmm,"value." that said, loads of fun and hot girls to be had, I would not be concerned. I've never been to havana (I am not allowed to go!) but I have heard it's also excellent for mongering and the overall experience.

MateoCatador
09-15-12, 23:41
Hi all! Medellin am known in part as the taster of prepayments, a man who review various girls lived experiences of the city, which serves as a reference for those who want to know more men like tourists.

In the midst of my experience I can recommend apartments prepayments, girls who draw their own apartments and they cater to customers who want a different experience, can find contact numbers of girls in various pages as paisasdivinas. Com amantesintimas. Com, inter damascolombianas. Com.

Those who wish to know more of my stories or reviews can visit me in http://www.catadordeprepagosmedellin.com/

Happy day to all

BlancoVikingo
09-16-12, 17:29
When talking to people and they say, I've been to Colombia, and I say where in Colombia, they say Cartagena, my answer.

Thats not real Colombia, Cartagena is a tourist rip off but I must say, a nice old city.

A. G.I have lived in Cartagena two months 2010 after having lived in Medellin three months. My friend invited me to stay at her parents house, and I payed like 500k COP / month including food and laundry from her mother. Increible friendly familily! I felt that people where very relaxed in Cartagena, paisas seem to be a progressive people, while the people in Cartagena, maybe due to the intense heat 24/7, can not keep up. I found girls be relaxed enojoying life and sex even more relaxed than in Medellíand. You need some Spanish skills to get across to the other side then you don't need to pay gringo prices. It is a lifetime investment.

I think that if you get to know people in Cartagena they will reward you with friendship. It's more expensive in the tourist areas, but many items and services cost the same as in Medellin, Periera or Cali.

Of course, Sir AG have a lot more experience than me, but I don't agree. Cartagena, if you can stand the climate, is a very nice place.

Amb832
09-17-12, 17:04
I know this is extremely early planning.

Next year will be my second trip Medellin. I'm planning to visit during my bday in the last week in July. I was thinking about staying an extra week for the flower festival. I heard most places like casas shutdown during that time. I have a few questions if anyone can answer them.

1. Is everything shutdown during flower festival?

2. Is it easier to meet a chica during flower festival?

3. I have a few chicas I keep in touch on facebook I met on my first trip. What are the chances they have free time during the flower festival?

Aussie Greg
09-17-12, 20:45
BV, thank you for the SIR bit mate.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1327732]I have lived in Cartagena two months 2010 after having lived in Medellin three months. My friend invited me to stay at her parents house, and I payed like 500k COP / month including food and laundry from her mother. Increible friendly familily! I felt that people where very relaxed in Cartagena, paisas seem to be a progressive people.
A. G.
I agree.

While the people in Cartagena, maybe due to the intense heat 24/7, can not keep up.
A. G.
Work wise yes, I have found them very lazy, the most lazy in Colombia but all Colombians will sit down when U-turn your back.

I found girls be relaxed enojoying life and sex even more relaxed than in Medellíand.
A. G.
The sex part, depends largley on the guy to get the best out of a girl and if the girl likes having sex with you.

You need some Spanish skills to get across to the other side then you don't need to pay gringo prices. It is a lifetime investment.
A. G.
Thats the same in all latino countries.

I think that if you get to know people in Cartagena they will reward you with friendship. It's more expensive in the tourist areas, but many items and services cost the same as in Medellin, Periera or Cali.
Of course, Sir AG have a lot more experience than me, but I don't agree. Cartagena, if you can stand the climate, is a very nice place.
A. G.
Okay after three days and nights, what do you do? Yes the islands are nice for a few days and the interior from Cartagena is nice.
I live in Medellin because of the weather, carnt beat it.
A. G.

Colombia Jake
09-17-12, 23:25
Matt has arrived and through half his stay everything has been great! Security guards do help plus the fact that I set him up with a sweetheart and he even took her to Santa Marta for a few days. Photo's. Returns to Medellin tomorrow and we'll see if the last 6 days of his stay here go without a hitch? I will let you know!

Clean trip with nothing but good memories! Matt flew out today back to the polar bears and eskimos! Says he will return around the 1st of Oct for another adventure. Going to stay with me for the first few days and takehis time finding an apartment that fits his criteria exactly before he moves out. I think its a great idea rather than taking a chance with the pictures and info over the internet which often times turns out to be like an over priced hooker. You come away feeling ripped off!


I'm planning on Medellin in the next 2 weeks or so. I also want to go to Santa Marta. Can you post picture of the chica? You can also PM me and I'll send my e-mail. Thanks, ArjayI tried to get back with you before but some reason it was never posted. The picture of the girl that was taken to Santa Marta is the first picture on www.ColombiaJake.com I guess I may have missed your trip this time but I will tell you my night tour is one of the most exciting things you may ever experience. The only feedback I have heard is this is amazing but its not for the faint of heart. You see the city in a very different way which is exciting and amazing to most, but also a little scary to some no doubt. Eric returned to Clearwater after another fun time here with me feeling like a star! Tried to get a date with anyone for a concert and realized he had become just another USA old throw away. Nobody wants you in the USA after U-turn 45 unfortunately but you either adapt or die so they say. I only take in one or two people a month because I like to be full of energy and fun when you arrive. Let me know Colombia Jake

Nabru
09-17-12, 23:51
I know this is extremely early planning.

1. Is everything shutdown during flower festival?

2. Is it easier to meet a chica during flower festival?

3. I have a few chicas I keep in touch on facebook I met on my first trip. What are the chances they have free time during the flower festival?1. Didn't check the casas this year but it seems like I heard about guys going. Normal places were still open.

2. Lots of crowds for the parades and concerts so might be easier for you to meet the ones you're standing next to.

3. During a couple of the days they might be taking their kids to see a parade, but other days and nights they should have free time (if all the other guys in town that week haven't already reserved them.)

Alpha Alemán
09-18-12, 10:10
Hey guys,

Just wondering what changed in Medellin the last years?

Is it still dangerous at night traveling as a Gringo?

Which places at Medellin are best avoid?

Other question, did you try to chat up girls on the Street, Bar etc? Does it work there being a Gringo? Or do they respond with Shock / Fear?

Internet and Disco are common places, men think are "easiest" but from my experience thats definetly not the case.

Saludos,

Manuel

Ezyngo
09-18-12, 23:04
Lately, it seems to go down in a hurry both in quality and quantity. For newbies to Medellin, it might still be an interesting place to come as if it were a new experience to you. For the vets, IMHO, only Friday night offers you the best selection of chicas if you are free from noviamigas and the likes for one night. That is my observation of the Mayo scene during the last few trips. At any rate,

Cheers.

Infanticide
09-19-12, 03:03
Lately, it seems to go down in a hurry both in quality and quantity. For newbies to Medellin, it might still be an interesting place to come as if it were a new experience to you. For the vets, IMHO, only Friday night offers you the best selection of chicas if you are free from noviamigas and the likes for one night. That is my observation of the Mayo scene during the last few trips. At any rate,

Cheers.Saturday nights are still very active but it gets going later (closer to midnight) because the bars there close later on Saturdays.

Jinxx
09-19-12, 03:20
I immediately go to the local bar / kiosk area and find me a sweet sardina. I make eye contact and smile, she smiles back. I call her over from the crowd and she comes still smiling. I tell her what I want and she agrees to my offered 20k. She resisted at first coming to my hotel and wanted to go to one of the cheap run down hotels where all the working girls and local men go to. Since my hotel is near, she accepted. What a body this girl has! Firm. Firm with small waist and perky small breast barely enough to fit in my mouth. I tried. LOL."the local bar / kiosk area"

What does this mean? I'm in downtown Medellin now and there are a few bars close by but I don't want to just go up to one of the waitresses and proposition her without knowing that she's available.

Can any of you pros clarify this for me? Feel free to pm me if you prefer.

And if anyone wants to meet up for drinks let me know.

Chesscat
09-19-12, 14:12
jinx, i don't know what brasil was talking about, but if you are planning to immediately assume a waitress is a prostitute, i think that's just bad manners. it makes you look bad, it makes foreigners look bad in general.

assuming you speak spanish, just talk to her and see if you get along. if there is any chemistry, you can ask her when she gets off or something like that, just like you would do in your home country.

if you don't speak spanish, you probably need to get out of the bars in el centro, find some real casas.

chesrep001.


"the local bar / kiosk area"

what does this mean? i'm in downtown medellin now and there are a few bars close by but i don't want to just go up to one of the waitresses and proposition her without knowing that she's available.

can any of you pros clarify this for me? feel free to pm me if you prefer.

and if anyone wants to meet up for drinks let me know.

Ricker
09-19-12, 15:41
jinx, i don't know what brasil was talking about, but if you are planning to immediately assume a waitress is a prostitute, i think that's just bad manners. it makes you look bad, it makes foreigners look bad in general.

assuming you speak spanish, just talk to her and see if you get along. if there is any chemistry, you can ask her when she gets off or something like that, just like you would do in your home country.

if you don't speak spanish, you probably need to get out of the bars in el centro, find some real casas.

chesrep001.i don't see anywhere that he says waitress.

he says he finds himself a "sweet sardina", meaning a younger girl.

sounds to me that he's referring to going to one of the hooker bars in el central and finding a chica in there to bring to his hotel.

big deal.

Mr Gogo
09-19-12, 15:44
jinx, i don't know what brasil was talking about, but if you are planning to immediately assume a waitress is a prostitute, i think that's just bad manners. it makes you look bad, it makes foreigners look bad in general.

assuming you speak spanish, just talk to her and see if you get along. if there is any chemistry, you can ask her when she gets off or something like that, just like you would do in your home country.

if you don't speak spanish, you probably need to get out of the bars in el centro, find some real casas.

chesrep001.good post. walking around with a hard dick and a twenty dollar bill hanging out of your mouth is just tacky. i've gotten more pussy by acting like i'm not looking for pussy. most pretty girl's have guys tripping over each other trying to get her. that confident, self-assured, laidback dude will always arouse her curiosity.

Chesscat
09-19-12, 16:20
It's El Centro, Ricker what happened to your Spanish?

Did you not see that Jinxx asked about waitresses?

"hooker bars". Maybe we need a map of them, or more info in any event.


I don't see anywhere that he says waitress.

He says he finds himself a "sweet sardina", meaning a younger girl.

Sounds to me that he's referring to going to one of the hooker bars in el Central and finding a chica in there to bring to his hotel.

Big deal.

Jinxx
09-19-12, 17:06
I give props to the guys who have the balls to hang out in el centro at night. That place is fucking raw. The place is crawling with crackhead zombies, transvestites, gays, thieves, shady looking cops, and girls of questionable ages. And I thought mexico was raw. Mexico is like disneyland compared to Colombia, almost. Number one word of advice if you ever find yourself in mde el centro at night, don't make eye contact with anybody if you can help it, unless it's a hot chick. Even then you better look close enough to make sure she's not a tranny.

I went to check the mayorista scene last weekend. I had to do it if for nothing else just to be able to say I'd been there. It was awkward for me because I was alone and didn't feel like drinking there so I basically just walked back and forth checking out the chicks until I decided on one. She was kind of thick but pretty young face. I'd give her maybe a 6. Service about a 6. I doubt I'll go back there without some colombiano buddies. But then I don't know if I'd want to associate with any colombians who would hang out in a raunchy place like that, LOL!

Ricker, what "hooker bars" are you referring to, if you don't mind me asking? The strip clubs or those billares sports bar places? Or is this a read between the lines, figure it out yourself kind of deal? Either way it's cool.

Member #4394
09-19-12, 17:35
Probably he's talking about De greiff, Veracruz, or other. Check Medellin list.


"the local bar / kiosk area"

What does this mean? I'm in downtown Medellin now and there are a few bars close by but I don't want to just go up to one of the waitresses and proposition her without knowing that she's available.

Can any of you pros clarify this for me? Feel free to pm me if you prefer.

And if anyone wants to meet up for drinks let me know.

Ricker
09-19-12, 18:23
it's el centro, ricker what happened to your spanish?

did you not see that jinxx asked about waitresses?

"hooker bars". maybe we need a map of them, or more info in any event.jajaja, you're right!

you have to know that i'm always between writing emails and posts in english, spanish and portuguese.

you should hear me as i end a call to a brasileira then call a colombiana; takes a minute or so to re- rack the language computer en la mente jajaja.

as far as jinxx's post goes; he was referring to a post that brasileiro made.

i just stated that brasileiro's post really wasn't referring to waitresses is all.

take care.

Vatore007
09-19-12, 18:58
I'm planning a trip to Medellin and was planning on staying at Il Castillo. When I went to their website, they are Hotel Casa Blanca now. What happened? New management? Were they bought out? Is Boyd there anymore? Have the policies changed, is it still a good place to go?

Ezyngo
09-20-12, 01:21
Probably he's talking about De greiff, Veracruz, or other. Check Medellin list.He told me where this place was and how he operated. I was very impressed with the ways he conducted himself the entire trip. He is a legend.

Cheers.

Leblon
09-20-12, 06:19
I was in Mansion many weeks ago. It is much better place now when it has a bar. Before action stopped around 8, now there are girls available whole night, depending little of which week day it is.

I did not take any girls from Dolce Face or Mayorista although I visited them, because Mansion girls had always pumped me dry already.

In the morning there are no girls available, so better collect some phone numbers and call girl by yourself if you want morning action.

Or ask from office to call somebody

TweedleD
09-20-12, 06:28
I'm planning a trip to Medellin and was planning on staying at Il Castillo. When I went to their website, they are Hotel Casa Blanca now. What happened? New management? Were they bought out? Is Boyd there anymore? Have the policies changed, is it still a good place to go?New name, new website, new Bar, new English Students, same old Greg, Robert and Boyd, http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/news.html

Aussie Greg
09-23-12, 23:05
New name, new website, new Bar, new English Students, same old Greg, Robert and Boyd,

http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/news.htmlSame old Greg and Robert, geeeeee, thats not nice.

Boyds gone misssing though!

Goooooooooooooooooooo JETSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

A. G.

TweedleD
09-25-12, 05:40
Same old Greg and Robert, geeeeee, thats not nice.

Boyds gone misssing though!

Goooooooooooooooooooo JETSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

A. G.It's Nice to have certain things consistent, A good reliable hotel, excellent customer service, fun friendly owners and staff! Not to mention fresh baked apple pies!

DmeHcg
09-26-12, 05:38
I will be staying in Laureles, which casa is still open in that area. Which casas do you recommend? Anyone?

EstebanH
09-26-12, 21:42
I will be staying in Laureles, which casa is still open in that area. Which casas do you recommend? Anyone?Energy has had very good talent there every time I have been there. Nice place, too.

Monger#77
09-26-12, 23:18
Is there a list of casas and their addresses?

Yujin
09-27-12, 00:24
Is there a list of casas and their addresses?Http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists&p=1107931&viewfull=1#post1107931

Cpure
09-27-12, 17:13
Same old Greg and Robert, geeeeee, thats not nice.

Boyds gone misssing though!

Goooooooooooooooooooo JETSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

A. G.Greg,

Unable to plan better. Mainly due to airline flights. & will arrive early in Medellin (on the 26th of oct). Before the room at the castillo becomes available on the 29th. Do you have friends / contacts you would refer me to?

Thanks.

Cya in oct.

BlancoVikingo
09-27-12, 19:47
I was one of their most frequent visitor I think in October.December 2009. The talent was very good. The price was 90k COP for 1 hour. Girls agrred on BBBJ for 30-60 k COP.

The best sex in my life!

Then in December 2010 they had changed the rules. One time the girl just accepted one fuck with coming, refused to make more fucking " solamente un relacion". One time I couldn't hold back and came fast: The girl said that the service was finished, and she was my favorite in 2009.

From Paradise to HELL.

If they still not have got the picture, skip this place. Do not visit Energy.

Personally my best value for the money is the place beside Estambul in Centro. They had equally sexy girls for half the price.


Energy has had very good talent there every time I have been there. Nice place, too.

Ezyngo
09-28-12, 15:08
Personally my best value for the money is the place beside Estambul in Centro. They had equally sexy girls for half the price.But I can not really remember the exact location of where OR what this is. A casa? Strip bar? Can you enlighten us? I will definitely pay a visit on my next trip.

Cheers.

BlancoVikingo
09-28-12, 17:25
1. Encuentros (Estambul) , Calle 49 # 43-68, piso 2. 4-6 Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min. 45k 45 min. 50k hour. Tel: (57) (4) 239 89 42. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10am to 7:30pm, Sundays and Holidays 10am to 5pm. (#28 on Tung's Map.)

It should be this place. One or two gates before the love hotel Estambul if you walk up from Centro. They have people in the vicinity on the plaza who give you cards with adress and phonenumber.

I remember the girls being very young 18-20 why-o and very feminine. A very cute morena with a thin body and the most beautiful natural D-cups breats I have seen in Latinamerica. I payed 15-30k COP extra for BBBJ.

Hopes this helpes

Socker
09-29-12, 00:06
3rd trip to Medellin.

Book the flight for 9/11 but did not realize the significance of that date until a few weeks later. I show up at sfo at 4am and of course it has been canceled. They said mechanical issues but I think I was the only dummy to book a flight on that day and they canceled due to lack of customers. That's what I think. They booked me on the next days flight, same time. My entire vaca pushed back one day, AA gave me a $150 voucher for the inconvenience and taxi cost.

Spent the first night in El Centro at The Nutibara Hotel. It's a dump in my book ($60 per night) but very close to the strip clubs. Hit the ground running (Wed. Night) and was hunting for a girlfriend at (strip club) Los Americas. The first chica I wanted would go to my hotel for 3 hours at 100, 000 pesos. Got to the hotel and she didn't have I'd, hotel won't let her in. Go back to L. A's and start all over, grab the first honey that has a nice smile, and she had a nice everything.

The price in the strip club was 80. 000 pesos for an hour in the back rms. I thought it was suppose to be 50, 000 so I wasn't going for it. As I talked to the new chica I kept repeating 100, 000 por 3 horas en mi hotel, over and over again. Soon after we were in the rm. And she was a good performer, great fleshy tits. We got out there and stayed up till 4 or 5am. She was sweet and pretty and did her best for me. Her body was typical paisa, curvy yet slender w / ample tits. She stayed all night and I gave her 180, 000 = $100. Her exit fee to the bar was 50, 000.

Check out of Nutibara at 12 and head to Hotel Medellin Plaza. Spend the first night at HMP recovering from the night before. Friday and I'm ready for more action, eventually head down the hill to HMP #1. See the new bar for the first time and it's fine. It's approx. 30' sq. W / couches lining the walls, small bar off to the side. This is where the hotel guest end up, bar opens at 6pm. I hooked up w / 4 or 5 chicas from this bar during my stay. The chicas range from ok to pretty good. The quality of the sex is the same, ok to pretty good. There were a couple of standouts for me, Monica, Diana, Christina and eventually the famous one. There were also a few duds of course. Most of the women I experienced were not tight, almost all had a least one kid. In retrospect I think the quality of lady (at HMP) has slipped a little from my first visit to HMP in 2011, maybe it was my timing. Also my choices in chicas might not have been very good. Some of the ladies there that are not the best lookers turn out to be the best fuckers. I think I need to work on my selection process a little more.

Near the end of my 9 days I hooked up w / the famous one. I saw her at the bar earlier in the week and got her number. She is a freaking sexy looking paisa. We got pretty wild and stayed up real late. Took an early morning swim w / her and much much more. She allowed pics eventually and I got some good ones. Her body is a little worn but still excellent. Her tits are beautifully shaped and more than a handful. She is a very sexy woman but she is quite full of herself and constantly being distracted by her phone. I still enjoyed her but had better sex w / a couple of other ladies this trip. I over paid her because I thought it would benefit me later but it didn't. She took advantage of my kind nature and in so doing helped me understand the downside of overpaying.

My big success came in the form of finding a new dentist. The HMP sent me to their dentist and I thought he was very good. My dentist in SF's Pac Hts wanted $1, 800 for 3 cavities. My new dentist in Medellin charged me $160 for the same 3 cavities. I am very happy w / the work and the way it was done. So that is huge and will also provide a good reason to return to Medellin in the future.

As for this trip overall, I wish I had done more things but I stuck w / the low hanging fruit at La Cueva in HMP #1. At times I partied like I was in the 80's again and that was fun but it takes a lot out of me. I did venture into El Centro via el bus and went to the casa, New Life. It is a decent experience but rather industrial. The chica I saw (Samantha) turned up her sexuality once the door was closed and that really helps. She wanted 30, 000 extra for BBBJ sin condom and she got it. But I only got about a minute of BBBJ action, then on w / condom and the fucking commences. I'm out of there in 16 minutes. These women are pros at getting you on your way fast. I can do w or w / out the casas. I would have like to see the more upscale ones, perhaps next time.

The HMP cost $70 per night w / free breakfast, good wifi, and free calls to the USA. My rm was big, comfortable and very private. The service there is very good and the 3 owners are friendly and helpful. I think it's a great hotel for the novice or pro monger. I liked being in El Centro but not sure about hotels in that area. The Nutibara is a little dumpy for my taste but doable if you don't mind dingy old rms. W / no hot water. Also checked out the hotels in La Mayorista I / e, Central Plaza (the best I saw) , Hotel Caravan and the others on that street. They all offer very small rms. At a small price, approx. $22 per night. The Central Plaza had AC and jacuzzi's on top floor. They are clean and looked comfortable except for being very small. No fridge in any of them which I like to have in the rm.

I went to La Mayorista twice, once in the daytime and then again on a Monday night around 12am. Saw one hottie there in the daytime and nothing on Monday night. Stupid me, on the Monday night visit I notice the policia on the corner. They are by themselves as everyone on this little strip avoids them except me of course. As I walk by them they stop me and ask me what I'm doing. I had a beer in my hand and quickly put it down and out of sight. I told them I was looking for a cab. Where are you staying sir? I'm at the Hotel Medellin Plaza. After a long look. OK, you can go. And that's exactly what I did. Hauled ass back to HMP and hooked up w / Diana (big tattoo on her back, of her sister) and she was excellent. She was leaving in a taxi and I flagged that sucker down and pulled her. I wish I had a few pics of her.

So my 3rd trip was fine. I learned a little more and fucked some nice babes. Will have to wait a full year before returning to Medellin unless of course my teeth start acting up. I will also say (in general) that the Colombianas are spectacular in appearance, nothing like them here in California, nothing even close. Here are a few pics. Please! No names. Gracias and Cheers

Ezyngo
09-29-12, 14:31
I went to La Mayorista twice, once in the daytime and then again on a Monday night around 12am. Saw one hottie there in the daytime and nothing on Monday night. Stupid me, on the Monday night visit I notice the policia on the corner. They are by themselves as everyone on this little strip avoids them except me of course. As I walk by them they stop me and ask me what I'm doing. I had a beer in my hand and quickly put it down and out of sight. I told them I was looking for a cab. Where are you staying sir? I'm at the Hotel Medellin Plaza. After a long look. OK, you can go.I enjoyed it very much. Amigo, you did not have to put your beer down and out of sight. It is perfectly ok to drink there. The policia shows up in Mayo on occasions to keep the place at peace as there are many drug dealers and addicts around.

Thanks.

Jinxx
09-30-12, 07:34
Hey guys I've been here in Medellin a while and I feel like I have a pretty good handle on the place, so I'd like to offer my services as a tour-guide / wingman. When I first got here I was kind of intimidated and wished I would've had someone help show me around. I speak spanish and I blend in pretty easily so if you're with me it will kind of feel like you're with a local.

Basically what I can do for you is accompany you anywhere you want to go. I know where everything is at. I'll translate and make sure you don't pay too much for any services. I know exactly what to look out for and won't let you get into anything unsafe. I can take you to casas, strip-clubs, bars, street scene, escorts, discotecas, restaurants, pretty much anything you want to do. I like to mix a little bit of the discoteca scene in with the mongering just because the women at the non-pro discotecas are so amazingly beautiful. I can help you approach regular girls and who knows maybe you can hook up with one. And if not oh well, a strip club is only a short taxi ride away. It's all up to you.

My fees are $50usd for daytime hours, $50usd nighttime tour, and $100 for day and night together.

If you're interested pm me with your info. Let me know when you're going to be in town, what kind of accomadations you're looking for (apt rental, hotel) , and give me an idea of what you're looking for. Are you looking for low-end, midrange, top-shelf?

I'll do my best to get everything set up for you and make sure your trip is hassle-free so all you have to do is enjoy yourself.

Ricker
09-30-12, 09:46
I've been back in town a few days now and I have to say right off, even though I love and enjoy demasiado my time in Brazil where I'm hanging these days, you just really can't beat the pure beauty of the Paisas.

They always seem to amaze me.

I'm staying this trip at the Mansion, or whatever the current name is, it'll always be the Mansion to me.

Though obviously I don't return to Colombia to meet dudes, I have met some cool ones staying at the Mansion this trip.

No strange birds, yet anyway.

Also the famous, now ISG banned for some reason, Reefski is here.

That man is always happy and smiling and with a beautiful Paisa on his arm. Very nice guy and takes Cuba Nut quality photos.

Anyway, I've been about everywhere now in Medellin, hitting all the old haunts and always looking for new.

I've been exclusively with pros so far this trip, Just as I planned.

Tomorrow I'm switching gears to my Medellin non pro for a couple days and then I'm heading to Cali to see this absolutely beautiful morena non pro I met previously.

Of course I've seen the new bar at the Mansion, la Cueva.

Very nice. Beautiful and friendly bartender, Paula.

I'm sure she's breaking gringo hearts.

Met lots of Mansion chicas. Some really hot, some pretty or cute, none ugly.

Just about all have been nice people.

Though I certainly can't blame guys for partaking with them, I just don't really.

I have several phone numbers now, just in case, however, most likely not.

There's just so much out there, especially if you can speak at least OK conversational spanish.

I hit 2 casas. At both I believe I struck gold. Both sessions were great with good chemestry.

I returned to see one of the chicas again and it was even better, I'm going to try and see her on the side, outside the casa for more fun, if I can I can fit it in.

I even had good luck this trip, twice even, on the seedy streets of el Centro.

I always take a walk thru the street scene in Centro, almost never pulling the trigger.

This trip I met 2 sexy chicas, amazingly with cedulas, out working.

Though the rooms out there are yuckoo, the sessions were fun and amazingly, the girls though unsophisticated, were very hot and sexy.

My main fun though has been with a couple Mayo chicas I've befriended.

To these girls, for the Mansion girl normal price of 150K pesos, they'd stay with ya for 2 soild days haha.

These 2 girls, both diamonds in the rough, treat me like a boyfriend with great sex, passionate kisses, whatever I want really.

Funny side note: one of these Mayo chicas saw me leaving one of the love Motels with another chica (a random sexy girl, quick sex) and she got kind of jealous with me but finally succomed and told me "esta bien, I understand Papi, you're a man, you need variety, just don't give her your kisses or love".

Now that's the attitude we all like.

That's my story so far this trip and I'm betting the next few days will be even better.

Hasta pronto, Ricker. :)

Hasideas Tao
09-30-12, 15:20
I have a noviamiga that I know for a year now. I've had many "better than incredible" experiences with this awesome girl. I am sure many of you have similar friends. One problem, she has an ex boyfriend that is like a muthafrekin hungry stray dog. (meaning, ya just don't know what it is capable of)

On one visit, he got a hold of my colombian phone number and started calling me and texting me. One time I answered and I actually felt sympathetic upon hearing his lies about how this girl is his wife and I should leave her alone and an idle threat "this is Medellin, this is my city, you are not home in the United States.". Next visit, I heard nothing from him.

Recently, he tried to become my friend under a fake alias on facebook but I saw it coming a mile away. Then, even more recently, in my excited frenzy of planning my next itinerary, he tried again and I took the bait. Now he knows the date of my arrival and other small bits of personal info that you can find out about me on my FB page.

My noviamiga has already filed a police complaint about him because he sporadically harasses / begs her and once even showed up at her job. She tells me she broke up with him because he was cheating on her (big surprise) and she could not deal with it any more because it was just too blatant. She says he has never done anything violent to another person.

Any suggestions? I really do not want to cut this girl off but of course my safety is the priority.

Thanks

Chesscat
09-30-12, 15:56
I vote for cutting her off. But if not, it seems like you would be able to spend time with here where no one would know. You could ask her to come in a taxi and when she arrives you could jump in the taxi and go directly to a love motel, there seem to be some really luxurious ones. Or you could go to eat or anywhere with her using the taxi. It seems like what you wouldn't want to do is wander around your old haunts with her or go to her neighborhood.

Mr Gogo
09-30-12, 16:34
This dude seems very serious about going extra lengths for his girl, might be time to drop that whole situation. No need to put yourself at risk over a piece of ass. The dude knows what you look like, has your number, and is trying to get on your Facebook page. I'm surprised you haven't dumped her already.

Uncazadorez
09-30-12, 18:14
Hasideas Tao

[QUOTE=Any suggestions? I really do not want to cut this girl off but of course my safety is the priority.Thanks[/QUOTE]

You already answered your question with the statement above. If "Safety is the priority". Then whey do you even think of hanging out with this girl? Life is cheap and so is a hitman in Medellin. By him stalking you a million miles away in another country via facebook is a huge sign this guy is unstable. He can easily hire a hitman and wack you with no problem in Medellin. Plus. Do you really want to spend your hard earned money while on vacation worrying and watching your back every minute? There is plenty of women for you to get all wrapped up on one and deal with all this baggage!

Cheers and good luck to you.

Kickboxer151
09-30-12, 20:05
Buddy:

I live here so let me just give my 2 cents.

In your favor you do NOT live here. So, with that said, I would use this as an excuse to have "quick" time with her and then you will have more time for other chicks. I would have her dropped off by the taxi and then she can gain access to where ever you are staying. Just do not hang out with her in publis! This is a great situation. You can hook up and have fun and spend a whole lot less money!

Have her tell the taxi cab driver to take a lap or 2 around your place before dropping her off. In this way she can see if anyone is following her.

Thats what I would do.

KB.


I have a noviamiga that I know for a year now. I've had many "better than incredible" experiences with this awesome girl. I am sure many of you have similar friends. One problem, she has an ex boyfriend that is like a muthafrekin hungry stray dog. (meaning, ya just don't know what it is capable of)

On one visit, he got a hold of my colombian phone number and started calling me and texting me. One time I answered and I actually felt sympathetic upon hearing his lies about how this girl is his wife and I should leave her alone and an idle threat "this is Medellin, this is my city, you are not home in the United States.". Next visit, I heard nothing from him.

Recently, he tried to become my friend under a fake alias on facebook but I saw it coming a mile away. Then, even more recently, in my excited frenzy of planning my next itinerary, he tried again and I took the bait. Now he knows the date of my arrival and other small bits of personal info that you can find out about me on my FB page.

My noviamiga has already filed a police complaint about him because he sporadically harasses / begs her and once even showed up at her job. She tells me she broke up with him because he was cheating on her (big surprise) and she could not deal with it any more because it was just too blatant. She says he has never done anything violent to another person.

Any suggestions? I really do not want to cut this girl off but of course my safety is the priority.

Thanks

Jinxx
09-30-12, 21:00
Hasideas Tao.

If I were in your situation I would continue seeing this girl discreetly, but make sure she understands that if this idiot keeps up his bs that you'll have to stop seeing her. Depending on how much you want to continue seeing this girl, you could file a complaint with the police about him harassing you and threatening you. That could be a hassle that may or may not be worth it to you. Don't forget there are always other fish in the sea.

Take care.

MiamiHeatLuver
10-01-12, 01:44
Colombianas like to pretend that the guys a stalker, he's annoying, I don't want anything to do with him, blah blah blah etc etc etc, but in reality secretly, she's probably still banging him and she absolutely loves the attention. Hence the psycho behavior!

She might be telling you she's going to "great lengths" for him to leave her alone but has anybody even ever heard of a restraining order in Colombia? The reason he's acting like a stalker because she's banging him as well, playing both sides of the fences and she likes the attention like almost all Colombianas do. Believe me, if she really wanted to put and end to it she would have done it a long time ago and all it really takes is one angry phone call to his parents. They will snap it out of him and knock some sense in him, make him feel like shit, especially if he has a sister she will make him feel Undignified, that's how it works over there, la familia trumps even the police!

Monger#77
10-01-12, 01:51
I will be in MDE the last week of October if anyone wants to hang out with me. It will be my first time in Colombia. I am looking to try to meet non-working girls during the day and working girls at night if no success during the day. PM me.

Legal Tender
10-01-12, 07:02
Or we could get lucky and have him permanently take you out, doing all of us a favor.

On another subject, what is it about a guy getting there chest waxed? Through a very reliable contact from this board I have learned this is what illegal tender does. Now this shit is gay as hell. I guess you never know who is walking on both sides of fence. SMFHThings have been a little boring around here lately. A little drama about the stalking ex novio, and the welcomed report of Ricker's recent foray in the City of Eternal Spring. Now, it's obvious we have a new troll. That's indisputable. Which banned member is now posting as Crown Royal?

Just to be consistant, Crown Royal, only good energy, whoever you really are.

Oh, to set the record straight, I get my balls waxed. By your mama, after some decent head by the old girl.

Hasideas Tao
10-01-12, 15:12
Thank you friends. I appreciate the many good suggestions and valid remarks. I have many reasons to believe she is being truthful with me. However, I have been guilty of naivete on more than one occasion. Colombia is great, but for sure, here in the US we live in a bubble and the same rules do not apply. I will suggest about making the family aware. In my opinion, that would probably be the most viable and effective. I did tell her she needs to take care of this situation and that I cannot allow myself to be anyone's target in addition to simply standing out as a gringo. I am so foolishly proud that my internal dialogue dictates to never make decisions based on fear. However, my pride can trick me into blurring the lines between fear and prudent caution.

All this is a good reminder for me that I need to adhere to certain rules of safety and realize, jealousy is an extremely powerful motivator. No matter how relaxed the situation appears, having developed some comfortable and rewarding patterns by staying in the same places and seeing the same girls. I tend to resist change, especially when I find such great chemistry with someone.

We all must remind ourselves, change is good. Change is a major force in what makes us grow. My numerous visits have led me to believe I have the situation under control. I am learning the lay of the land. I am creating a niche for myself. And guess what, some of the wrong people are beginning to notice. Time for a change. It is difficult to let go of something or someone who seems so great. But obviously she has some baggage she needs to take care of. Until then, time for new beginnings, new noviamigas with new unknown baggage. Haha Back to the good ol' days.

Peace and positive energy!


Colombianas like to pretend that the guys a stalker, he's annoying, I don't want anything to do with him, blah blah blah etc etc etc, but in reality secretly, she's probably still banging him and she absolutely loves the attention. Hence the psycho behavior!

She might be telling you she's going to "great lengths" for him to leave her alone but has anybody even ever heard of a restraining order in Colombia? The reason he's acting like a stalker because she's banging him as well, playing both sides of the fences and she likes the attention like almost all Colombianas do. Believe me, if she really wanted to put and end to it she would have done it a long time ago and all it really takes is one angry phone call to his parents. They will snap it out of him and knock some sense in him, make him feel like shit, especially if he has a sister she will make him feel Undignified, that's how it works over there, la familia trumps even the police!

MiamiHeatLuver
10-01-12, 15:48
Time for a change. It is difficult to let go of something or someone who seems so great. But obviously she has some baggage she needs to take care of. Until then, time for new beginnings, new noviamigas with new unknown baggage.You just answered your own question then, you tell her that you want nothing to do with her until she takes care of her baggage and that it is HER PROBLEM to deal with it and take care of it. If she really likes you she will go that extra mile and really take you seriously and take care of it. Colombianas will move heaven and earth to be with someone the like. Others (most) will play both sides of the fence with many guys, whoever is the "best option" on that Friday or Saturday night. But then lies the question if she really took care of it or just said she did so you need to make sure. Believe me I've been there with the jealous ex novio or husband and nobody likes eating or drinking with their back to the wall, curious, suspicious of everybody around you when you are out, that's no way to enjoy your vacation time. Especially in a country with 20million women.

Lusifer69
10-01-12, 17:26
So this coming Friday I will be doing my 2nd trip to Medellin. I will be staying at the Mansion 1 for the first few days and then moving to an Apt. I have been reading this treat for a few weeks now trying 2 find the Casas, Strip Clubs and Clubs that are worth checking out and I have an idea but I would love 2 get some suggestions from the people that are in Medellin right now. So to thoses that are in Medellin at the moment what's popping?

Colombia Jake
10-01-12, 18:17
I will be in MDE the last week of October if anyone wants to hang out with me. It will be my first time in Colombia. I am looking to try to meet non-working girls during the day and working girls at night if no success during the day. PM me.I Know I sound like a broken record but you guys that live in the USA just can't get enough of Medellin! Matt is back again and together with the same chica I set him up with before his trip with her to Santa Marta. There is chemistry and not just because he treats her well. Even without much Spanish they are laughing and having fun together. Its real and its what you get when you work the streets and find some diamonds. That is where I met her and what I enjoy doing on my tours. She is hoping for something that may or may not happen long term but its here and you can find it with a little work! www.colombiajake.com

Jake

Legal Tender
10-01-12, 21:03
You just answered your own question then, you tell her that you want nothing to do with her until she takes care of her baggage and that it is HER PROBLEM to deal with it and take care of it. If she really likes you she will go that extra mile and really take you seriously and take care of it. Colombianas will move heaven and earth to be with someone the like. Others (most) will play both sides of the fence with many guys, whoever is the "best option" on that Friday or Saturday night. But then lies the question if she really took care of it or just said she did so you need to make sure. Believe me I've been there with the jealous ex novio or husband and nobody likes eating or drinking with their back to the wall, curious, suspicious of everybody around you when you are out, that's no way to enjoy your vacation time. Especially in a country with 20million women.MHL has a way of separating the wheat from the shaft. It's HER PROBLEM, and it's your choice if you want to make it YOUR PROBLEM. It all depends on your level of connection and desire to protect this particular little Paisa. Depending on her circumstances, she or her family might not be able to dissuade the ex novio from continuing to bother her. It sounds as if you've been around Medellin somewhat. Hopefully you've developed some local contacts. Folks that will have no difficulty in having the ex develop a new love interest exist. Have you considered that? Fast, easy, and non violent. All it takes is a request that he desist from the right person, and he's out of the picture.

Sometimes, it takes this kind of "good" energy.

Jinxx
10-01-12, 23:48
Well I stepped out of my hotel in el centro today. Right into the middle of a f*cking riot! I've never seen so many cops in my life. People running all over the place. Shit was crazy!

Legal Tender
10-02-12, 00:11
Well I stepped out of my hotel in el centro today. Right into the middle of a f*cking riot! I've never seen so many cops in my life. People running all over the place. Shit was crazy!I was just thinking, fuck, I wish I were there. It's a desire that those in my real life would never consider belonged to me. I am not too stupid. I know where to go and not go in Medellin, but if you're there enough, you'll get into a situation that will make your asshole draw up so tight that you couldn't drive a broom straw up it with a sledge hammer. Haven't gotten assaulted or robbed yet (except years ago in Paris) , but I guess I find the adrenaline rush invigorating.

TweedleD
10-02-12, 03:24
So this coming Friday I will be doing my 2nd trip to Medellin. I will be staying at the Mansion 1 for the first few days and then moving to an Apt. I have been reading this treat for a few weeks now trying 2 find the Casas, Strip Clubs and Clubs that are worth checking out and I have an idea but I would love 2 get some suggestions from the people that are in Medellin right now. So to thoses that are in Medellin at the moment what's popping?As far as casas go, New Life seems to be a favorite, and yet, Friday near closing time it pretty much sucked, I just cruise from one to the other (theres alot in centro) And you can always find something doable, Refer to the Medellin List thread, There is a few now that are asking a viewing fee, I just walk

Member #4394
10-02-12, 06:36
What area of El Centro are you talking about? Thanks.


Well I stepped out of my hotel in el centro today. Right into the middle of a f*cking riot! I've never seen so many cops in my life. People running all over the place. Shit was crazy!

Member #4394
10-02-12, 06:38
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2787-Map-of-Casas-of-Centro-in-Medellin&p=1308121&viewfull=1#post1308121


So this coming Friday I will be doing my 2nd trip to Medellin. I will be staying at the Mansion 1 for the first few days and then moving to an Apt. I have been reading this treat for a few weeks now trying 2 find the Casas, Strip Clubs and Clubs that are worth checking out and I have an idea but I would love 2 get some suggestions from the people that are in Medellin right now. So to thoses that are in Medellin at the moment what's popping?

Jinxx
10-02-12, 07:39
What area of El Centro are you talking about? Thanks.The part I witnessed was around el junin, maracaibo, Caracas, carrera 50, and parque bolivar. I saw a mob with sticks and bats and the big tank think shooting water come down maracaibo then go up cra 50, then I walked by parque bolivar I must have seen at leas 100 cops piled up like they were getting ready to go to war. There's an article about in on Colombia reports. Twice I had to take off running because I heard some loud boom and everybody else took off running. Men, women, children, old ladies. I've never experienced anything like it in my life.

Legal Tender
10-02-12, 19:47
The part I witnessed was around el junin, maracaibo, Caracas, carrera 50, and parque bolivar. I saw a mob with sticks and bats and the big tank think shooting water come down maracaibo then go up cra 50, then I walked by parque bolivar I must have seen at leas 100 cops piled up like they were getting ready to go to war. There's an article about in on Colombia reports. Twice I had to take off running because I heard some loud boom and everybody else took off running. Men, women, children, old ladies. I've never experienced anything like it in my life.Http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/26292-criminal-gang-infiltrated-protest-medellin-mayor.html

Member #4394
10-03-12, 07:28
Thanks, Jinxx and Tender!


Http://colombiareports.com/colombia-news/news/26292-criminal-gang-infiltrated-protest-medellin-mayor.html

Bennn
10-03-12, 19:06
The part I witnessed was around el junin, maracaibo, Caracas, carrera 50, and parque bolivar. I saw a mob with sticks and bats and the big tank think shooting water come down maracaibo then go up cra 50, then I walked by parque bolivar I must have seen at leas 100 cops piled up like they were getting ready to go to war. There's an article about in on Colombia reports. Twice I had to take off running because I heard some loud boom and everybody else took off running. Men, women, children, old ladies. I've never experienced anything like it in my life.


Can you see any immediate effect on the action in El centro (street walkers, strip clubs, casa's)?

SkinnyPimp
10-03-12, 21:32
Anyone know the current location of Abydos?

I heard they moved and I see that it was removed from the Medellin Casa map.

Aussie Greg
10-03-12, 21:46
The City of Medellin has cracked down on all the street vendors without licences, thats all and these street vendors protested, plus a few gang members.

A. G.

Sailor Jim
10-03-12, 22:23
The City of Medellin has cracked down on all the street vendors without licences, thats all and these street vendors protested, plus a few gang members.

A. G.The mayor wants all roving vendors (los vendedores ambulantes) out of the area between Ayacucho all the way across to the curve of Oriental (behind the Church) and on the other side between Giradot all the way down two blocks west (down the hill so to speak) of the main metro line. It is a huge square area that includes 3 subway stops (Prado, Parque Berrio, and right on the edge of the proposed border station San Antonio)

The government is citing criminal activity with many of the roving vendors so has decided to ban ALL OF THEM from this high traffic and high profit area. Most of which are hardworking and honest. These vendors are up getting ready at 5AM busting their backs 14 hours a day until 7PM making an honest living and supporting families. These guys are in tears over this bullshit ban.

Why not just arrest roving vendors who are criminals? Well let's be honest, that would be the sensible thing to do. Lock up criminals regardless off their occupation. But the "crimes" well, that's not really the issue but the smokescreen.

The storefronts who actually pay rent and higher taxes obviously have a lower profit margin and are feeling the effects of the bad economy. Getting rid of the roving street vendors cuts out a good chunk of competition.

This is political push from storefronts complaining perhaps greasing the government to get rid the roving vendors in an effort to clean up centro. Pirated DVDs and other bad stuff is still and always will be available all over the city. This could get really ugly as the government is royally screwing the hardworking people who need it the most. This affects hundreds of vendors not to mention the thousands back home in los barrios populares that depend on them.

Sailor Jim
10-03-12, 22:34
Can you see any immediate effect on the action in El centro (street walkers, strip clubs, casa's)?Some banks in the area were still closed as of today and there were still some issues last night. Watching the news would be a good bet. I would just stay away at night. For now. Actually staying out of Centro at night is usually a good bet, not really worth the risk.

Combo
10-03-12, 23:58
El Centro is certainly a different world from Poblado.

Hasideas Tao
10-04-12, 13:23
I agree that is harsh for those street vendors who have probably been there for years, all of a sudden can't work. But for the most part, there are many others with literally a lot of garbage they are trying to sell. Overpriced fake sneakers, aren't so bad, but used clothes, old broken appliances. Does anyone really buy that garbage? There is a lot of useless junk picked from the trash and not forgetting to mention the hoards of people clustered under the metro, crapping and pissing and doing drugs, forcing you to walk in the street. Seems like a lot of those people just don't know where else to go. Maybe keeping them out will force them to find something better to do. That being said, back home I always say that I am approached by very few straight up beggars. Seems to me, like everyone has something they are trying to exchange for cash. In contrast to many US cities where beggars stand in front of stores and flat out just ask for your change. We even teach our kids to do it. For example, it confuses me when I see teenagers standing outside the grocery store asking for donations for their sports team, benefit or cause. At least girl scouts will sell you 6 cookies in a box that could probably hold twice as many. Who knows what is the right answer? I would love to hear some front line reports what the atmosphere is like down there these days?

Legal Tender
10-04-12, 23:46
I agree that is harsh for those street vendors who have probably been there for years, all of a sudden can't work. But for the most part, there are many others with literally a lot of garbage they are trying to sell. Overpriced fake sneakers, aren't so bad, but used clothes, old broken appliances. Does anyone really buy that garbage? There is a lot of useless junk picked from the trash and not forgetting to mention the hoards of people clustered under the metro, crapping and pissing and doing drugs, forcing you to walk in the street. Seems like a lot of those people just don't know where else to go. Maybe keeping them out will force them to find something better to do. That being said, back home I always say that I am approached by very few straight up beggars. Seems to me, like everyone has something they are trying to exchange for cash. In contrast to many US cities where beggars stand in front of stores and flat out just ask for your change. We even teach our kids to do it. For example, it confuses me when I see teenagers standing outside the grocery store asking for donations for their sports team, benefit or cause. At least girl scouts will sell you 6 cookies in a box that could probably hold twice as many. Who knows what is the right answer? I would love to hear some front line reports what the atmosphere is like down there these days?I assume that "back home" where you are approached "by very few straight up beggars" is in the USA or other western, industrialized country. What you wrote reveals a total lack of understanding and absence of compassion for these poor human beings in Medellin. In Colombia, the number of internally displaced people is approximately 4. 9 million. Nearly the population of Colorado. This makes Colombia the second largest internal displacement country in the world next to Sudan. These people do what they can to survive, even selling "useless junk picked from the trash. ." They are trying to survive, doing whatever they can do to continue to live. Man, I get a bad feeling from reading what you say you feel when you view them. Try a little compassion and care, if you're capable.

I don't mean to write disparagingly of your honest conclusion drawn from your observation. I'm almost as sad for you as I am for them.

But, dude, try to find some good energy when you consider those that are so much less fortunate than any of us.

Member #4244
10-05-12, 02:08
i assume that "back home" where you are approached "by very few straight up beggars" is in the usa or other western, industrialized country. what you wrote reveals a total lack of understanding and absence of compassion for these poor human beings in medellin. in colombia, the number of internally displaced people is approximately 4. 9 million. nearly the population of colorado. this makes colombia the second largest internal displacement country in the world next to sudan. these people do what they can to survive, even selling "useless junk picked from the trash." they are trying to survive, doing whatever they can do to continue to live. man, i get a bad feeling from reading what you say you feel when you view them. try a little compassion and care, if you're capable.

i don't mean to write disparagingly of your honest conclusion drawn from your observation. i'm almost as sad for you as i am for them.

but, dude, try to find some good energy when you consider those that are so much less fortunate than any of us.geez, man, browbeat much? and while you're heaping guilt on some gringo, the business owner in their own community are probably scraping together money to have these people killed by the police if they grow too large in number (limpieza social=social cleansing).

you don't have to be displaced to be desperate, hell most people in colombia are poor and many are without jobs, support systems, etc. there are many reasons to have compassion but just because the guy doesn't like seeing that desperation and doesn't think it contributes anything to the experience of the city does not make him heartless.

i think an outright ban is bs, it should be phased in, but eventually it will have to happen and hopefully when that time comes fewer people will be resorting to this type of commerce anyway.

Member #4244
10-05-12, 02:13
As far as casas go, New Life seems to be a favorite, and yet, Friday near closing time it pretty much sucked, I just cruise from one to the other (theres alot in centro) And you can always find something doable, Refer to the Medellin List thread, There is a few now that are asking a viewing fee, I just walkIMO New Life is vastly overused and overrated. Unfortunately a lot of the better casas have shut down or taken a turn for the worse though, at least the good ones in that price range. Honestly though you're dropping 40K there plus extras, a place like Energy or Blue Room will often wind up costing about the same plus no dealing with Centro traffic if you are coming from outside. There are still small gems but they tend to move around. I also think late afternoon on you can find talent in the Centro strip clubs for 50K-100K.

Legal Tender
10-05-12, 06:36
You don't have to be displaced to be desperate, hell most people in Colombia are poor and many are without jobs, support systems, etc. There are many reasons to have compassion but just because the guy doesn't like seeing that desperation and doesn't think it contributes anything to the experience of the city does not make him heartless.You are so right. Colombia is a third world country, and most of the residents live a less than tranquil life. I don't know why our fellow monger's posting really hit me the wrong way. Seeing this desperation absolutely contributes to the experience, though. Medellin is not Poblado. Reality ought to be the goal of any experience. Colombia is such a troubled place. My view is that lack of compassion is the gold standard for determining heartlessness.

Try a little good energy toward everyone. Something that I admit I don't always follow, but when I do, my life is so much better.

On a happier note, I have a couple of new scholarship applicants in Medellin next week. One scholarship recipient, who claims she is a 19 year old virgin, keeps e-mailing me she wants to have sex. I wrote about her before, she the girl that rides from Medellin to Rio Negro every Sunday on her bike. She's is shape. I've been a womanizer all of my life, but I don't feel right about this. Anyone else understand that?

Only good energy,

Ricker
10-05-12, 06:53
IMO New Life is vastly overused and overrated. Unfortunately a lot of the better casas have shut down or taken a turn for the worse though, at least the good ones in that price range. Honestly though you're dropping 40K there plus extras, a place like Energy or Blue Room will often wind up costing about the same plus no dealing with Centro traffic if you are coming from outside. There are still small gems but they tend to move around. I also think late afternoon on you can find talent in the Centro strip clubs for 50K-100K.I'm just back from a trip to Medellin.

I hit the casas 4 times.

Was with 3 chicas total, with one repeat.

Hit the jackpot with one of them, and it wasn't even the repeat one, though she was great.

The jackpot was in an obscure casa, new I believe.
When she presented I nearly fell off the sofa there.

Beautiful girl, great chemestry, fun sex.

Didn't repeat with her, because I got her number and went from there.
Going back to see her at the end of the month.

This may have actually been the most fun trip I've had to Medellin, and I've been there mucho.

From casas, to clubs, to Mansion chicas to Mayo, to non pros, I didn't have one dud chica, not once.

One Mansion chica even came to see me, she wanted taxi money only, of course she's become a friend over the past year or so.

My Mayo favorita came over and spent my last night with me after I tired of the non pro drama, and she helped me pack and stuff.

Also, believe it or not, with another Mayo chica, I took her to one of the better motels around the corner from the strip.
Like a bobo, I unknowingly dropped my wallet on the floor before entering the bathroom.
I was carrying a couple beers, the room key and the TV control along with my wallet in my hands.
Anyway, after several minutes in the bathroom, I come out and this chica hands me my wallet, nothing missing, and I had about 200K in it.
I'm not usually that dumb to not take better care of my wallet, money, etc, but what a cool chica.
This trip was just like that. I had the mongering magic good energy the whole trip.

Great time.

Best advice, as always, learn spanish, as much as you can.

Don't over plan, just a general game plan, be nice and have fun!

Buenas noches amigos, back to Brazil pasado mañana.

Kickboxer151
10-05-12, 13:50
I just had 3 of my buddies in and I could not be a tour guide since so I sent them over to "Jinxx". Jinxx speaks perfect Spanish and English perfect since my buddies that came speak about 5% Spanish at best.

For a pretty good fee he took them around to all the casas. Strip clubs etc. Not to mention the Pablo Escobar Tour.

My buddies were VERY pleased and satisfied to have this wingman that is American Latino that could show them around. He introduced them to local "ladies" that he knows and I think you can figure out the rest. LOL.

Just wanted to put this post up for my buddies since they have no clue or members of ISG,

KB151


Hey guys I've been here in Medellin a while and I feel like I have a pretty good handle on the place, so I'd like to offer my services as a tour-guide / wingman. When I first got here I was kind of intimidated and wished I would've had someone help show me around. I speak spanish and I blend in pretty easily so if you're with me it will kind of feel like you're with a local.

Basically what I can do for you is accompany you anywhere you want to go. I know where everything is at. I'll translate and make sure you don't pay too much for any services. I know exactly what to look out for and won't let you get into anything unsafe. I can take you to casas, strip-clubs, bars, street scene, escorts, discotecas, restaurants, pretty much anything you want to do. I like to mix a little bit of the discoteca scene in with the mongering just because the women at the non-pro discotecas are so amazingly beautiful. I can help you approach regular girls and who knows maybe you can hook up with one. And if not oh well, a strip club is only a short taxi ride away. It's all up to you.

My fees are $50usd for daytime hours, $50usd nighttime tour, and $100 for day and night together.

If you're interested pm me with your info. Let me know when you're going to be in town, what kind of accomadations you're looking for (apt rental, hotel) , and give me an idea of what you're looking for. Are you looking for low-end, midrange, top-shelf?

I'll do my best to get everything set up for you and make sure your trip is hassle-free so all you have to do is enjoy yourself.

Jinxx
10-06-12, 02:39
You are so right. Colombia is a third world country, and most of the residents live a less than tranquil life. I don't know why our fellow monger's posting really hit me the wrong way. Seeing this desperation absolutely contributes to the experience, though. Medellin is not Poblado. Reality ought to be the goal of any experience. Colombia is such a troubled place. My view is that lack of compassion is the gold standard for determining heartlessness.

Try a little good energy toward everyone. Something that I admit I don't always follow, but when I do, my life is so much better.

On a happier note, I have a couple of new scholarship applicants in Medellin next week. One scholarship recipient, who claims she is a 19 year old virgin, keeps e-mailing me she wants to have sex. I wrote about her before, she the girl that rides from Medellin to Rio Negro every Sunday on her bike. She's is shape. I've been a womanizer all of my life, but I don't feel right about this. Anyone else understand that?

Only good energy, Well let's see, she's an adult of legal age and she said she WANTS to have sex? What is there to feel bad about? Is it the part of her being a virgin? Just be nice to her and treat her good. I don't see any problem. Do you feel like you're manipulating her? If it doesn't feel right to YOU then don't have sex with her.

BlancoVikingo
10-06-12, 15:10
It has occured to me that almost every girl seem to lack money, due to genrally low wages, unemployment etc. This makes it hard to distinguish the good one from the barracudas. But if one follow a plan, a strategy, this can minimiza loss of time and money.

We need advice from you Legal Tender. You have found a method that works, while many of us still fumble in the Darkness Of Cultural Misconception.

Superboy1
10-06-12, 18:58
You are so right. Colombia is a third world country, and most of the residents live a less than tranquil life. I don't know why our fellow monger's posting really hit me the wrong way. Seeing this desperation absolutely contributes to the experience, though. Medellin is not Poblado. Reality ought to be the goal of any experience. Colombia is such a troubled place. My view is that lack of compassion is the gold standard for determining heartlessness.

Try a little good energy toward everyone. Something that I admit I don't always follow, but when I do, my life is so much better.

On a happier note, I have a couple of new scholarship applicants in Medellin next week. One scholarship recipient, who claims she is a 19 year old virgin, keeps e-mailing me she wants to have sex. I wrote about her before, she the girl that rides from Medellin to Rio Negro every Sunday on her bike. She's is shape. I've been a womanizer all of my life, but I don't feel right about this. Anyone else understand that?

Only good energy, Legal Tender Colombia is NOT a third world country. Have you ever been to a third world country? I am guessing not, it is alot more different to Colombia.

Dickhead
10-06-12, 19:20
The terms First, Second, and Third Worlds are obsolete and have been for quite some time. No one really agreed on who was where and what it meant. Colombia is a "developing country." First, Second, and Third were rather ethnocentric terms which, given the often jingoistic nature of the more developed countries' foreign policy toward them, weren't too popular in places like Colombia. A good example of jingoistic US policy towards Colombia would be the Hay-Herráand Treaty of 1903. This comprises the root of the instinctive dislike that many Colombians have for the US.

A lot of what some call the Third World would have been the First World if the Spaniards hadn't come in and fucked them all up with bullionism. The Mexica and the Inca were much more developed than those who invaded them.

Hasideas Tao
10-07-12, 02:12
Maybe the wording of my previous post was confusing.

"Back home". Beggars tend to ask for money with nothing in exchange. I tried to clarify that by making the cutting reference about teaching kids to stand in front of supermarkets and praised girls scouts for cutely ripping us off with their over priced over packaged snacks.

In Medellin, it has been my experience, most people on the street want to make some kind of exchange with you for money. Respect.

However, the recent events in El Centro have occurred in part because it is already dangerous.

I'm no social analyst or economist. I will try to be concise, since admittedly, these are the opinions of a layman. Maintaining the status quo doesn't seem like a good solution. Yet, making a change is going to cause some grief. It is simply impossible to make everyone happy. Fact is, its a designated business environment. Regardless of whether or not someone is there just trying to survive. Public drug use, urination, defecation and peddling in the streets intimidates others from peacefully going about their business and from simply getting from point A to B. If I ruled the world there would be only one law. If what you are doing purposely, directly, negatively and unwillingly impacts another within a 5 yard radius, you can't do it. Obviously that was facetious. Point is something should be done for the improvement, development, enhancement and safety of Medellin as a whole. My compassion is immense. I love Medellin.

My feelings aside, I've spoken to a few people who live there and those few have all played the recent events down. I know this a monger forum but hopefully we will continue to receive front line updates since this topic undoubtedly impacts the environment as a whole.


I assume that "back home" where you are approached "by very few straight up beggars" is in the USA or other western, industrialized country. What you wrote reveals a total lack of understanding and absence of compassion for these poor human beings in Medellin. In Colombia, the number of internally displaced people is approximately 4. 9 million. Nearly the population of Colorado. This makes Colombia the second largest internal displacement country in the world next to Sudan. These people do what they can to survive, even selling "useless junk picked from the trash." They are trying to survive, doing whatever they can do to continue to live. Man, I get a bad feeling from reading what you say you feel when you view them. Try a little compassion and care, if you're capable.

I don't mean to write disparagingly of your honest conclusion drawn from your observation. I'm almost as sad for you as I am for them.

But, dude, try to find some good energy when you consider those that are so much less fortunate than any of us.

Liveheree
10-08-12, 04:03
Sorry if this has been asked before, but are there any Casas in or near by El Poblado? I have looked at the Medellin list and the handy google map, but they seem clustered around El Centro. There should be some decent places in El Poblao right?

Thanks!

Heartz05
10-08-12, 04:51
I visited Medellin in September. I played in Chica punto com, Energy, New life. It was fun. Although I think I'll visit again at the end of the year, do you go home Everyone girls?

Legal Tender
10-08-12, 15:44
The terms First, Second, and Third Worlds are obsolete and have been for quite some time. No one really agreed on who was where and what it meant. Colombia is a "developing country." First, Second, and Third were rather ethnocentric terms which, given the often jingoistic nature of the more developed countries' foreign policy toward them, weren't too popular in places like Colombia. A good example of jingoistic US policy towards Colombia would be the Hay-Herráand Treaty of 1903. This comprises the root of the instinctive dislike that many Colombians have for the US.

A lot of what some call the Third World would have been the First World if the Spaniards hadn't come in and fucked them all up with bullionism. The Mexica and the Inca were much more developed than those who invaded them.I had to look up a couple of words, e. G,"jingoistic" and refresh myself on the hay-Herraand non-treaty before I could write this response. Dickhead is a prolific poster and I've read many of his reports on his exploits in South and Central America. A stalwart among us fellow mongers. I'm glad he took the time to post here.

Dickhead, my use of first, second and third world terminology was sloppy and imprecise. Colombia is a developing country with one of the strongest economies in Sur America. The USA senate ratified the Hay-Herraand Treaty, by which Colombia would have given the USA the land on which the Panama canal was eventually built. The Colombians didn't ratify the treaty, so the USA supported a pro USA revolution in Panama, and the result was an "independent" Panama and USA control over the canal.

The USA imperialistic attitude toward Colombia (and every other country) continues. Plan Colombia is highly unpopular among Colombians and has resulted in all kind of chaos in Colombia. Let's face it. In common parlance, the USA is a bully and that is not a paradigm for friendly relations based on mutual interest and respect. The Colombia Free Trade Agreement has yet to play out, but it will decimate the small Colombian farmer. It still perplexes me that such a beautiful country, with some of the most beautiful and sensual women in the world, has always existed in a vortex of violence and insecurity. To enjoy and appreciate Colombia, one has to learn a bit about the countries' history and as Ricker always advises, learn some Spanish.

Legal Tender
10-08-12, 15:49
Legal Tender Colombia is NOT a third world country. Have you ever been to a third world country? I am guessing not, it is alot more different to Colombia.I have been to what I think everyone will agree is the poorest among some of the poorest. I've helped a couple of young men from Malawi study in the United States. I just use Malawi as an example to contrast with Colombia since I've experienced both. You and Dickhead appropriately corrected my sloppy use of words.

Only good energy, SD

TweedleD
10-08-12, 17:36
Sorry if this has been asked before, but are there any Casas in or near by El Poblado? I have looked at the Medellin list and the handy google map, but they seem clustered around El Centro. There should be some decent places in El Poblao right?

Thanks!Centro de Masajes Pekin, Calle 10A # 43A-31, Apt 201, El Poblado. 3 Chicas. Prices: 70k 45 min, Playboy session 150k 30 min. Tel: 268 64 22. Hours: 10am to 8pm. From an old posting, prices are up a bit, and the 3 or 4 girls working there fall into the MILF catagory

Aussie Greg
10-08-12, 17:51
I have been to what I think everyone will agree is the poorest among some of the poorest. I've helped a couple of young men from Malawi study in the United States. I just use Malawi as an example to contrast with Colombia since I've experienced both. You and Dickhead appropriately corrected my sloppy use of words.

Only good energy, SDI'd better keep my mouth shut about Colombia! I've backpacked around Malawi also, only good energy.

A. G.

EstebanH
10-08-12, 18:31
Another America hater. Americans are always the ones causing the problems, right? Imperialists? Give me a break.

Plan Colombia was a Colombian initiative. USA has pumped billions into Colombia to fight the FARC and the narco traffickers. Much of that money has also gone into infrastructure and human development.

I do think the free trade agreement will ultimately be beneficial to Colombia but there will be a lot of internal displacement as a result. One of the reasons the Colombian economy has been growing a such a rapid rate is that the country has extensive free trade agreements with the EU, China and other Latin American counties.


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The USA imperialistic attitude toward Colombia (and every other country) continues. Plan Colombia is highly unpopular among Colombians and has resulted in all kind of chaos in Colombia. Let's face it. In common parlance, the USA is a bully and that is not a paradigm for friendly relations based on mutual interest and respect. The Colombia Free Trade Agreement has yet to play out, but it will decimate the small Colombian farmer. It still perplexes me that such a beautiful country, with some of the most beautiful and sensual women in the world, has always existed in a vortex of violence and insecurity. To enjoy and appreciate Colombia, one has to learn a bit about the countries' history and as Ricker always advises, learn some Spanish.

BlancoVikingo
10-08-12, 19:18
Those journals cover much of American foreign policy.

Of course America is imperalistic with military installations in more than 100 countries.

But America pays a high economical and political price for this engagement, even if it is beneficial to countries as Colombia and cities like Medellin.

There is no other way to handle the complex world, the isolationism 1920-41 is not an option, US allies are simply to weak, can't act because of their history or simply refuse, leaving the US no other choise than to act.

Back to Medellin.

The city is more like two worlds, Medellin and the suburbs. The first world and the third world in one. Even the languages is so different between the pure Castellano and the suburbs dialects (that it is hard to understand) so even with the Metrocable it is difficult for poor people to advance, speaking suburb dialect will exclude you from all finer social groups. Social stratas are very distinct in Colombia. There will "always" be a big proletariat, thus making the term "The Third World" relevant.

If one refrain to extrapolate Colombias current GNP-growth and looks at it's current GNP statistics Colombia is in the middle in Latinamerica with US$ 10, 000 per capita, Argentina has +17, 000, Bolivia 4, 900.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html

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10-08-12, 19:42
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Legal Tender
10-08-12, 20:29
I'd better keep my mouth shut about Colombia! I've backpacked around Malawi also, only good energy.

A. G.Come on Greg, everyone always appreciates your perspective on Colombia.

Legal Tender
10-08-12, 20:42
Another America hater. Americans are always the ones causing the problems, right? Imperialists? Give me a break.

Plan Colombia was a Colombian initiative. USA has pumped billions into Colombia to fight the FARC and the narco traffickers. Much of that money has also gone into infrastructure and human development.

I do think the free trade agreement will ultimately be beneficial to Colombia but there will be a lot of internal displacement as a result. One of the reasons the Colombian economy has been growing a such a rapid rate is that the country has extensive free trade agreements with the EU, China and other Latin American counties.My observations and opinions are not emotional. I don't hate anyone, much less my country. It has many attributes, but reality is reality. Plan Colombia may have been endorsed by the powers that be in Colombia, but it has been devastating to many poor, hard working Colombians that are simply trying to feed their family. I suggest you read,"Beyond Bogota" by Gary Leech and / or Robin Kirk's "More Terrible than Death: Drugs, Violence, and America's War in Colombia."

I am not suggesting that the Colombian Free Trade Agreement won't benefit many Colombians. I imagine the costs of arepa will decline because USA produced grains will flood into Colombia. The efficiency of USA farmers can't be competed with by the Colombian small (and inefficient) farmers.

Bottom line, Colombia is America's bit*h in South America. The Fair Trade Agreement was agreed to without any addressing of the oppression of the Colombian labor leaders. I love America. But it's imperialistic foreign policy is unsound, immoral, and in the end, unproductive.

Hey, I advocate good energy not oppression and dominance.

Legal Tender
10-08-12, 21:18
It has occured to me that almost every girl seem to lack money, due to genrally low wages, unemployment etc. This makes it hard to distinguish the good one from the barracudas. But if one follow a plan, a strategy, this can minimiza loss of time and money.

We need advice from you Legal Tender. You have found a method that works, while many of us still fumble in the Darkness Of Cultural Misconception.I really can't give advice to anyone, but I'll be pleased to share my thoughts and experiences. We read continually about those of us that see the Girl Friend Experience (GFE). To that end, there are the undefined categories of prepago, semi-pro, and "normal" girls. I don't buy into that delineation, all adult females are sex workers in one form or another. There is no such thing as free pussy, they all want something. Maybe it's as simple and direct as a few COPs or lifetime commitment.

If one wants a real GFE, you have to understand that it takes agreement of two people. There is no such thing as a "no strings attached" relationship. Everything is subject to discussion and agreement. Clearly, most girls in Medellin are very open to having a sponsor. I have no interest in a girl that sees material things in exchange for attention and affection. They are simply unworthy of time and treasure. I like smart girls that are serious about their education and have some passion in life for what they will be doing after obtaining a degree. To those who feel monogamy is important, I know several girls that are simply not diverting their attention and time to anything that isn't related to their studies. No discos, no drugs, no novio. It's easy to make their dream, you're dream: to see them educated, independent and successful.

In order to make this idea realistic, one has to be able to spend some time in Colombia. Coming to Medellin for a week each year won't do it. These kind of girls are really easy to find. I've got some university professors that recommend recipients for scholarship opportunities, but Facebook is a great asset. Just makes FB friends with a few Piasas and soon many of their friends will want to get to know the "yankee."

My experience has been that karma kicks in almost every time. Understand the financial commitment, and stick to it. If you take an interest in one of these girls and want to see a good one be able to go to a university, the response is not only heart warming, but results in a beautiful young woman WANTING to give you all of the physical pleasure that she can give. Works for me.

Really, my way of spreading good energy and receiving the benefit of doing somethings that are not entirely egoistic.

Just decide what kind of girl you want to spend time with. Of course, as shallow as it is, she's got to be hotter than a two dollar pistol. Those with kids are problematic simply because they're too damn needy. I highly recommend a serious university student.

Superboy1
10-08-12, 21:41
I have been to what I think everyone will agree is the poorest among some of the poorest. I've helped a couple of young men from Malawi study in the United States. I just use Malawi as an example to contrast with Colombia since I've experienced both. You and Dickhead appropriately corrected my sloppy use of words.

Only good energy, SDNo problem buddy, sorry if my reply to your post sounded alittle blunt. Was having a bad day then I read you calling Colombia third world. All good energy.

Member #4394
10-09-12, 02:43
The both are great read.


I suggest you read,"Beyond Bogota" by Gary Leech and / or Robin Kirk's "More Terrible than Death: Drugs, Violence, and America's War in Colombia." .

Member #4394
10-09-12, 03:09
As I said before, I have no problem with what you are doing. But I think it is entirely egoistic. It is a "payment" rather than "scholarship." Thanks.


Really, my way of spreading good energy and receiving the benefit of doing somethings that are not entirely egoistic.

EstebanH
10-09-12, 16:24
Legal,

The cocaine trade wholly originated in Colombia and was exploited by Colombians and has created incredible wealth for many there. Without that trade, US involvement in that country would be minimal.

The USA is actually late to the game in terms of trade with Colombia. Free trade is inevitable and irreversible for all countries.


My observations and opinions are not emotional. I don't hate anyone, much less my country. It has many attributes, but reality is reality. Plan Colombia may have been endorsed by the powers that be in Colombia, but it has been devastating to many poor, hard working Colombians that are simply trying to feed their family. I suggest you read,"Beyond Bogota" by Gary Leech and / or Robin Kirk's "More Terrible than Death: Drugs, Violence, and America's War in Colombia."

I am not suggesting that the Colombian Free Trade Agreement won't benefit many Colombians. I imagine the costs of arepa will decline because USA produced grains will flood into Colombia. The efficiency of USA farmers can't be competed with by the Colombian small (and inefficient) farmers.

Bottom line, Colombia is America's bit*h in South America. The Fair Trade Agreement was agreed to without any addressing of the oppression of the Colombian labor leaders. I love America. But it's imperialistic foreign policy is unsound, immoral, and in the end, unproductive.

Hey, I advocate good energy not oppression and dominance.

Colombia Jake
10-09-12, 17:33
Matt from Alaska came and went with no problems whatsoever! He has a very nice things going with Carolina whom keeps him from partying too hard, photo's at the www.Colombiajake.com. The girls I try to provide and or meet with you are not full time pro's, no they are girls that are usually a lot of fun and when they meet the right guy there is interest in a relationship which is what happened with Matt. It doesn't happen that often but those two are definitely into each other and she stay's with him the entire time he's here. She took us to her casa high in the hills and showed us the new big sink to wash clothes in and a wall that was going up. I told Matt the second story will be named after him because he certainly financed the new things we saw, but it made him feel good to help out and see where his money was going! He left a few days ago and Fernando whom is also in my photo's arrives Friday. He likes to stay at his favorite place but we have a lot of fun working the girls in Centro together and later exploring nice places to eat and see at night in out of the way places like La Doctora near Sabaneta and finish up with a cutie if he has any energy left!

Jake

Lusifer69
10-09-12, 23:27
Anyone in Medellin right now that wants to go check Mayorista or some of the strip clubs tonight?

Aussie Greg
10-10-12, 01:43
I nearlly shed a tear in happyness for Matt and Carolina but after giving it some thought, what a fucken idiot.
He's been milked, but hey, lets blame the Colombia Free Trade Agreement and PLAN COLOMBIA.
A. G.


Matt from Alaska came and went with no problems whatsoever! He has a very nice things going with Carolina whom keeps him from partying too hard, photo's at the.

www.Colombiajake.com

The girls I try to provide and or meet with you are not full time pro's, no they are girls that are usually a lot of fun and when they meet the right guy there is interest in a relationship which is what happened with Matt. It doesn't happen that often but those two are definitely into each other and she stay's with him the entire time he's here. She took us to her casa high in the hills and showed us the new big sink to wash clothes in and a wall that was going up. I told Matt the second story will be named after him because he certainly financed the new things we saw, but it made him feel good to help out and see where his money was going! He left a few days ago and Fernando whom is also in my photo's arrives Friday. He likes to stay at his favorite place but we have a lot of fun working the girls in Centro together and later exploring nice places to eat and see at night in out of the way places like La Doctora near Sabaneta and finish up with a cutie if he has any energy left!

Jake

Legal Tender
10-10-12, 06:40
I nearlly shed a tear in happyness for Matt and Carolina but after giving it some thought, what a fucken idiot.

He's been milked, but hey, lets blame the Colombia Free Trade Agreement and PLAN COLOMBIA.

A. G.Aussie, have a little compassion, amigo. Matt thinks he found one that fits. We all know that pussy can be more addictive than cocaine. He'll be ok if he keeps his expectations at zero. We only have what we are experiencing in the moment.

Think good energy!

Legal Tender
10-10-12, 06:53
Legal,

The cocaine trade wholly originated in Colombia and was exploited by Colombians and has created incredible wealth for many there. Without that trade, US involvement in that country would be minimal.

The USA is actually late to the game in terms of trade with Colombia. Free trade is inevitable and irreversible for all countries.The drug trade has not diminished one bit since the yankee's decided to be Colombia's daddy. The public officials in all of Sur America are corrupt, and many are neck deep in the drug trade. The USA is involved in Colombia to protect US interest there. United Fruit, for example, and because of Hugo Chavez and the anti-american government in Bolivia. Colombia is to South America what Taiwan is to China, in a sense. The Colombian Constitutional Court recently held that the government's program to allow US troops to be stationed at Colombian army bases was unconstitutional. We're bullies and that why many Colombians hold the US in contempt. The boiling of discontent, especially among the young at public universities in Colombia, could erupt at any time.

I didn't say that the Colombian Fair Trade agreement was not beneficial to both countries, on balance. I'm just saying that the Colombian government is leaving the soon to be displaced farmers out to dry, so to speak. Colombia has the second largest number of internally displaced citizens, exceeded only by Sudan. One in ten Colombians have been driven off their land by the leftist or para militaries, and now there will be more. Where's the social justice in that? Hey, karma works for countries, too. We Yankees are getting some bad karma, that's all.

SlamCity7777
10-10-12, 15:32
I nearlly shed a tear in happyness for Matt and Carolina but after giving it some thought, what a fucken idiot.

He's been milked, but hey, lets blame the Colombia Free Trade Agreement and PLAN COLOMBIA.

A. G.. Dr. Dre;"You can't make a ho a house wife"

If dude feel like he has a connection with this chick and he's not suffering financially to build her and her family a house. Good Luck to him. His money his life.

Can we get some real reports going?

MiamiHeatLuver
10-10-12, 16:08
I nearlly shed a tear in happyness for Matt and Carolina but after giving it some thought, what a fucken idiot.

He's been milked, but hey, lets blame the Colombia Free Trade Agreement and PLAN COLOMBIA.

A. G.Any kind of "masking" the situation, non pro, semi pro, only did it a few times, student, Bullshit! Any girls who take money for sex is a prepago period! Obviously there are different levels of putas, I'm not saying she's a mayorista or casa girl. But you think you've found the "one"? Think again! YOU JUST TRY to keep her under wraps until your next visit! It's not going to happen no matter what you try! The #1 goal for a colombiana is making money and a very close #2 is partying their asses off! Best bet is to enjoy them while you have them there in front of you because it's not worth worrying about what their doing when your not there! Take it from a guy who will be celebrating 8 years going to Colombia next March! Jack off Jake has his little harem of putas who he claims Matt and Carolina really hit it off, until the NEXT JOHN comes into town and then what?"Fred and Carolina" really hit it off? Lmfao!

EstebanH
10-10-12, 20:31
We're bullies and that why many Colombians hold the US in contempt. The boiling of discontent, especially among the young at public universities in Colombia, could erupt at any time.You're full of it. Most Colombians I have met like Americans. I have several who work for me and live here by choice. Its left wing weenies like you that give the USA a bad name.

Why so much bad energy?

Joey Smith
10-10-12, 23:16
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Aussie Greg
10-10-12, 23:26
lt, i got to agree with estebanh, the leftists are pissed because they carnt win, your little one included.

as with the displaced peasants, the government has just started to confirep001e many properties that the paraco's / farc and eln got for nothing and are in the process of giving it back.

i personally think the free trade agreement will hurt the big business familys more than the people who are struggelling, for me the price of cars and electrical goods will i hope be affected and reduced.

a. g.


you're full of it. most colombians i have met like americans. i have several who work for me and live here by choice. its left wing weenies like you that give the usa a bad name.

why so much bad energy?

El Bacano
10-14-12, 21:39
I don't know too much about trade agreement, I wish the

I don't know much About free trade, but I wish the P@ssy Was free.

P#

BeersTerry
10-14-12, 22:36
Free Trade is a recipe for disaster. The drive for efficiency / market economy etc means more unemployment locally while exporting work for Asians / Orientals. The end result is you get to pay $1 less for your plastic toy but destroy your national economy.

BeersTerry
10-15-12, 00:04
For those of you who want to do the rah rah sis boom bah bullshit, I will quote Ulysses S Grant,

" For centuries England has relied on protectionism, has carried it to extremes, and has obtained satisfactory results from it. There is no doubt that it is to his system that it owes its present strength. After two centuries, England has found it convenient to adopt free trade because it thinks that protection can no longer offer it anything. Very well then, gentlemen, my knowledge of our country leads me to believe that within two hundred years, when America has gotten out of protection all that it can offer, it too will adopt free trade.

The shoe is now on the other foot!

Dickhead
10-15-12, 00:13
Free trade maximizes worldwide wealth under three main theories: comparative advantage (David Ricardo as refined by the Heckscher-Ollin model), economies of scale, and product differentiation. The first theory can be conclusively proven mathematically (at least to me), the second theory can be proven mathematically with some assumptions that I am pretty much okay with, and the third makes logical sense.

But, just because free trade maximizes worldwide wealth doesn't mean there aren't individual winners and losers. For example, Colombia might have a relative abundance of labor to capital. It will have a comparative advantage in labor intensive products and that is what will be exported. This will drive up wages due to increased production of the export product. When the exports are paid for, Colombia will have relatively more capital. That will drive down returns to capital. Labor benefits and capital loses, while the importing country will see the opposite benefit, to capital which is becoming more scarce as the imports are paid for. But, with completely free trade, Hecksher-Ollin shows that the benefit to labor will be greater than the loss to capital, (and the opposite in the importing country) and both countries benefit overall.

So with completely free trade, all countries are better off as a whole, but some groups within the countries lose. If you start adding tariffs, it gets more complicated. Then you can have entire winner countries and entire loser countries. But, the winner countries win more than the loser countries lose, as compared to no trade at all.

Grant, whose presidency was a financial disaster, notwithstanding, Latin America's persistent protectionist urges are mere populism and have been just as deleterious to the region as Spain's protectionist policies were 400 years ago. Probably the single biggest factor in creating the widespread poverty in the region.

BTW visa requirements act like a tariff on imported pussy.

Member #4394
10-15-12, 01:09
I hate to bore other members, but some thoughts. The theory of comparative advantage is an "inter" national theory without an indication for "intra" national relationship. The theory does not explain how a nation and its people would, or did, find / focuse on the goods they have comparative advantage of. The theory simply presumes that nations do by assuming single, unitary, and rational nations, without sub-national units. Also, as for economy of scale, it will increase competition, which would enhance the quality of goods and services. But, as you indicated, nations will lose jobs and business in the areas they do not have comparative advantage of. Again, my apology to other members for this non-mongering post, and I do not wish to receive responses from the usual antagonists. I will post a report soon. Thanks.


Free trade maximizes worldwide wealth under three main theories: comparative advantage (David Ricardo as refined by the Heckscher-Ollin model) , economies of scale, and product differentiation. The first theory can be conclusively proven mathematically (at least to me) , the second theory can be proven mathematically with some assumptions that I am pretty much okay with, and the third makes logical sense.

But, just because free trade maximizes worldwide wealth doesn't mean there aren't individual winners and losers. For example, Colombia might have a relative abundance of labor to capital. It will have a comparative advantage in labor intensive products and that is what will be exported. This will drive up wages due to increased production of the export product. When the exports are paid for, Colombia will have relatively more capital. That will drive down returns to capital. Labor benefits and capital loses, while the importing country will see the opposite benefit, to capital which is becoming more scarce as the imports are paid for. But, with completely free trade, Hecksher-Ollin shows that the benefit to labor will be greater than the loss to capital, (and the opposite in the importing country) and both countries benefit overall.

So with completely free trade, all countries are better off as a whole, but some groups within the countries lose. If you start adding tariffs, it gets more complicated. Then you can have entire winner countries and entire loser countries. But, the winner countries win more than the loser countries lose, as compared to no trade at all.

Grant, whose presidency was a financial disaster, notwithstanding, Latin America's persistent protectionist urges are mere populism and have been just as deleterious to the region as Spain's protectionist policies were 400 years ago. Probably the single biggest factor in creating the widespread poverty in the region.

BTW visa requirements act like a tariff on imported pussy.

Mardonius
10-15-12, 01:51
I wanted to ask is this hotel close as in walking distance to the clubs and casas or do you need a taxi? I am not new to mongering just new to Colombia and would appreciate this info. I will be meeting a chica and she will be staying with me in whatever hotel I choose, but I will leave open a night or two for myself to venture out and have some fun.

Dickhead
10-15-12, 02:09
Hecksher-Ollin says worldwide factor prices will tell them where their comparative advantages are. That is what H-O added to Ricardo. You have to have some reasonable possibility of factor mobility (emigration and capital flows) and usually you do, so the model is valid under a lot of different conditions.

Hasideas Tao
10-15-12, 02:34
A Colombian friend asked me to bring him an expensive camera from the US. Am I going to have to pay some customs fee?

Hanshin Baka
10-15-12, 03:12
The drug trade has not diminished one bit since the yankee's decided to be Colombia's daddy. The public officials in all of Sur America are corrupt, and many are neck deep in the drug trade. The USA is involved in Colombia to protect US interest there. United Fruit, for example, and because of Hugo Chavez and the anti-american government in Bolivia. Colombia is to South America what Taiwan is to China, in a sense. The Colombian Constitutional Court recently held that the government's program to allow US troops to be stationed at Colombian army bases was unconstitutional. We're bullies and that why many Colombians hold the US in contempt. The boiling of discontent, especially among the young at public universities in Colombia, could erupt at any time.

I didn't say that the Colombian Fair Trade agreement was not beneficial to both countries, on balance. I'm just saying that the Colombian government is leaving the soon to be displaced farmers out to dry, so to speak. Colombia has the second largest number of internally displaced citizens, exceeded only by Sudan. One in ten Colombians have been driven off their land by the leftist or para militaries, and now there will be more. Where's the social justice in that? Hey, karma works for countries, too. We Yankees are getting some bad karma, that's all.This is almost more annoying than your usual Sandusky sponsering.

Questner
10-15-12, 03:26
Some countries have got no comparative advantage in anything but pussy. They have to give up their independence to be subsidized forever. Hope it never materializes and we continue travel to poor shitholes. My airfare is probably a subsidy already.

Member #4643
10-15-12, 03:36
This is almost more annoying than your usual Sandusky sponsering.Guys, trust me, no one cares about trade agreements. With all due respect, the political ideas posted by a mongerer, posted on a sex site, are never going to be taken seriously by anyone but yourselves.

Nabru
10-15-12, 07:34
A Colombian friend asked me to bring him an expensive camera from the US. Am I going to have to pay some customs fee?Take it out of the box and any plastic wrapping and throw away the manuals (or bring them the next time) and it will look like your personal camera. The manual should be available online (usually as a pdf file) from the manufacturer's website.

Nino Bravo
10-15-12, 11:27
Take it out of the box and any plastic wrapping and throw away the manuals (or bring them the next time) and it will look like your personal camera. The manual should be available online (usually as a pdf file) from the manufacturer's website.Absolutely NOT necessary. Leave it in the box. He will NOT be charged a customs fee for bringing in ONE camera as a gift.

Hasideas Tao
10-15-12, 12:21
I figure I can explain I am a photographer but still.

I have not found any specific information online about what you are required to declare when entering Colombia.

Has anyone here ever been stopped at customs and actually had to pay?

Thanks.


Take it out of the box and any plastic wrapping and throw away the manuals (or bring them the next time) and it will look like your personal camera. The manual should be available online (usually as a pdf file) from the manufacturer's website.

Hillbilly69
10-15-12, 14:41
I figure I can explain I am a photographer but still.

I have not found any specific information online about what you are required to declare when entering Colombia.

Has anyone here ever been stopped at customs and actually had to pay?

Thanks.Nabru's adivice is good but your over thinking things too much, I have brought dozens of cameras into the Colombia still in the box and given them away to girls and they were all still in the box [ back when digital cameras were a big deal lmfao], I usually have 3 cameras of my own I use for pics one waterproof with floatable handle, one for daytime and one for a night, the one at night is usually a cheap one.

Ricker
10-15-12, 16:12
Guys, trust me, no one cares about trade agreements. With all due respect, the political ideas posted by a mongerer, posted on a sex site, are never going to be taken seriously by anyone but yourselves.Boy is that the truth!

If you just have to vent about economics, trade agreements and other such topics that most guys quickly pass over, at least put them in the general area.

Like Forest says, does anyone really open the ISG wondering what guys are thinking about Trade agreements? Doubt it.

Of course good advice about traveling and customs, etc is always helpful info.

Have fun out there!

Ezyngo
10-16-12, 03:38
I wanted to ask is this hotel close as in walking distance to the clubs and casas or do you need a taxi? I am not new to mongering just new to Colombia and would appreciate this info. I will be meeting a chica and she will be staying with me in whatever hotel I choose, but I will leave open a night or two for myself to venture out and have some fun.You'd need a taxi to go everywhere. Stay in El Centro or La Mayorista if you want some action on the side and if you do not want to pay a fortune on taxi fare.

Cheers.

Mardonius
10-16-12, 11:05
You'd need a taxi to go everywhere. Stay in El Centro or La Mayorista if you want some action on the side and if you do not want to pay a fortune on taxi fare.

Cheers.I look at the casa map and I see a lot of the casa close together so I am assuming that is el centro. My question is about this El Polblado area because that is the area that chica is trying to steer me to as far as hotel she is saying that it is nice and it has nice clubs and restaurants etc. Now does that put me much farther away from the clubs and places I may want to check out?

Member #4394
10-16-12, 16:00
Your hotel is in a very good area. I wouldn't change the hotel. Centro is not far from Poblado. Appro. 3-4 miles and 10-15 mnts by taxi (about US$4). I usually stay in El Centro or Mayorista because I do not seek non-pro actions. For you and your amiga, Poblado is better.


I look at the casa map and I see a lot of the casa close together so I am assuming that is el centro. My question is about this El Polblado area because that is the area that chica is trying to steer me to as far as hotel she is saying that it is nice and it has nice clubs and restaurants etc. Now does that put me much farther away from the clubs and places I may want to check out?

Nabru
10-16-12, 18:21
Actually I'm not sure about cameras. I was just repeating the instructions a friend of mine had given me before bringing him a new laptop computer to Medellin, just in case I got the red light before leaving the baggage claim area.

Mardonius
10-16-12, 19:15
Your hotel is in a very good area. I wouldn't change the hotel. Centro is not far from Poblado. Appro. 3-4 miles and 10-15 mnts by taxi (about US$4). I usually stay in El Centro or Mayorista because I do not seek non-pro actions. For you and your amiga, Poblado is better.Thanks you for the info I will do that

Nino Bravo
10-16-12, 19:51
Actually I'm not sure about cameras. I was just repeating the instructions a friend of mine had given me before bringing him a new laptop computer to Medellin, just in case I got the red light before leaving the baggage claim area.Even if you DID get a red light at customs, they would NOT charge you for bringing into the country ONE laptop computer, even if it was in the box, or even wrapped as a Christmas present. Trust me, I have 90 plus entries into Colombia over the last 14 years.

Colombia Jake
10-16-12, 22:45
Any kind of "masking" the situation, non pro, semi pro, only did it a few times, student, Bullshit! Any girls who take money for sex is a prepago period! Obviously there are different levels of putas, I'm not saying she's a mayorista or casa girl. But you think you've found the "one"? Think again! YOU JUST TRY to keep her under wraps until your next visit! It's not going to happen no matter what you try! The #1 goal for a colombiana is making money and a very close #2 is partying their asses off! Best bet is to enjoy them while you have them there in front of you because it's not worth worrying about what their doing when your not there! Take it from a guy who will be celebrating 8 years going to Colombia next March! Jack off Jake has his little harem of putas who he claims Matt and Carolina really hit it off, until the NEXT JOHN comes into town and then what?"Fred and Carolina" really hit it off? Lmfao!Take it from another 8 year seasoned Veteran to Medellin, everything is fair in Love and War. The short test came when I had another client come in before Matt's last visit and yes, I tried to see if she wanted to meet him but, she said no she was waiting for Matt, and even if he gave something for her time he's having a girlfriend experience that beats anything he's going to have in the USA. For the vast majority of guys who come and go here, its nothing but some seasoned Pro sitting around waiting in the lobby for nothing more than the usual empty business in and out. With me a least you have a chance of something more than a business transaction. It may not work long term with Matt and Carolina who knows but, I can tell you its not in my best interest for my guys to come here and fall in love! Why? Because then you don't need me anymore now do you? I put up a couple new photo's as well as my other trips and the women I found along the way on ColombiaJake. Com

Norman Stormin
10-17-12, 12:58
Well I stepped out of my hotel in el centro today. Right into the middle of a f*cking riot! I've never seen so many cops in my life. People running all over the place. Shit was crazy!For those of you who may have an interest in mongering, which appears deminimus since I just waded through 5 pages of political and economic coffee house chit chat to find even one post germaine to the subject of sex, the following link gives some clarification to the riots of two weeks ago.

For anyone who mongers in El Centro and / or is concerned about his personal security, this article is required reading. Note that the article starts by interviewing a working girl in front of the Vera Cruz church.

http://www.elcolombiano.com/BancoConocimiento/E/el_crimen_del_centro_se_maneja_desde_la_periferia/el_crimen_del_centro_se_maneja_desde_la_periferia.asp?CodSeccion=211

Zero1
10-19-12, 01:26
I have been to many of the centro casas, checked out the centro strip clubs, and went to the high end strip clubs like fase dos, san diego, etc.

I can find hot girls in the casas with enough time, and the price is great, but there is no kissing or making out, and the whole experience is so down to business it gets really boring after a while. I suggested a propina to one girl for kissing, and she seemed okay with that, but was then just unable to really change her mentality. And I am not a gross or ugly guy. That said, I'm not sure I should make out with such frequently used girls anways.

On the other hand, I had one girl from an expensive strip club that was reasonably GFE (kissing at least) , but the costs add up so fast there, and the whole scene can be a hassle to identify and get the attention of the right girl. And I don't know there is any assurance the girls will perform better than casa girls anyways.

So where can you find "midrange" girls that will kiss and make out and give the slightest bit of sensuality? To be clear, I am not looking for a pretend girlfriend to hang out with for a week, just someone for a few hours who acts like a nighttime working girl in other monger places around the world, instead of a brothel girl. Also, I do not want to move to the Mansion, and don't want to hire some local gringo to introduce me to all his old prepagos. And the girl has to be hot, to my tastes. The great thing with casas is you can see 30-40 girls, then choose one.

So does this scene exist, or is it all restricted to the Mansion and local guys with their networks?

Are the high end casas any better? I checked out Energy once, and heard a list of all the restrictions that came with 30 minutes, but don't quite understand if they act differently for 1 hour.

I have not been to Mayorista yet. Since I now know where to find hot casa girls, it hasnt seemed worth it given that casas are so cheap, and safer, simpler and closer. But maybe I am missing out? Hard for me to believe streetwalkers would be more passionate but who knows.

I had considered inviting a casa girl to my hotel one night, but I don't want to see them after they have been working all day. 6 days a week, and it is hard for me to deal with all the hassle when I know how cheaply and simply I can get them back in the casa.

So is there any way to find girls that give something similar to Mansion service (or just not the cold brothel service) without staying there? I am happy to pay more than the casa prices, but it just isn't clear where the next level up really is.

Thank you.

EstebanH
10-19-12, 12:04
Do you really expect GFE from someone you are paying $17 for and is banging men all day. I think you need to set appropriate expectations.

I really believe that the best strategy for believable GFE is developing relationships over multiple visits and via Facebook / Skype prior to visiting. Eventually, you will find girls who actually might enjoy being with you in addition to the money.


I have been to many of the centro casas, checked out the centro strip clubs, and went to the high end strip clubs like fase dos, san diego, etc.

I can find hot girls in the casas with enough time, and the price is great, but there is no kissing or making out, and the whole experience is so down to business it gets really boring after a while. I suggested a propina to one girl for kissing, and she seemed okay with that, but was then just unable to really change her mentality. And I am not a gross or ugly guy. That said, I'm not sure I should make out with such frequently used girls anways.

On the other hand, I had one girl from an expensive strip club that was reasonably GFE (kissing at least) , but the costs add up so fast there, and the whole scene can be a hassle to identify and get the attention of the right girl. And I don't know there is any assurance the girls will perform better than casa girls anyways.

So where can you find "midrange" girls that will kiss and make out and give the slightest bit of sensuality? To be clear, I am not looking for a pretend girlfriend to hang out with for a week, just someone for a few hours who acts like a nighttime working girl in other monger places around the world, instead of a brothel girl. Also, I do not want to move to the Mansion, and don't want to hire some local gringo to introduce me to all his old prepagos. And the girl has to be hot, to my tastes. The great thing with casas is you can see 30-40 girls, then choose one.

So does this scene exist, or is it all restricted to the Mansion and local guys with their networks?

Are the high end casas any better? I checked out Energy once, and heard a list of all the restrictions that came with 30 minutes, but don't quite understand if they act differently for 1 hour.

I have not been to Mayorista yet. Since I now know where to find hot casa girls, it hasnt seemed worth it given that casas are so cheap, and safer, simpler and closer. But maybe I am missing out? Hard for me to believe streetwalkers would be more passionate but who knows.

I had considered inviting a casa girl to my hotel one night, but I don't want to see them after they have been working all day. 6 days a week, and it is hard for me to deal with all the hassle when I know how cheaply and simply I can get them back in the casa.

So is there any way to find girls that give something similar to Mansion service (or just not the cold brothel service) without staying there? I am happy to pay more than the casa prices, but it just isn't clear where the next level up really is.

Thank you.

Hillbilly69
10-19-12, 12:09
So is there any way to find girls that give something similar to Mansion service (or just not the cold brothel service) without staying there? I am happy to pay more than the casa prices, but it just isn't clear where the next level up really is.

Thank you.It ain't hard look to the photo gallery, where do you think TweedleD got the picture from? FB

You can match usernames to dudes faces pretty easily, then go down their friends list [ girls of course], a gentleman from Fort Wayne would be a good start, alot of others but last time I mentioned I screwed half a dudes friendslist was Medellin Paisa that day he upped his privacy settings so noone could scope his talent anymore. LMAO.

Another option would be Romance Latina, find a member of a monger board that you can put a name to, then look at his friends list or a popular puta.

BrasilSoccer0
10-19-12, 12:32
Go to the night strip joints on Maracaibo in "el centro" Better luck there for what you want.

The Mayo is a good place too, just spend sometime talking and getting a vibe from the girl outside before you commit to the dead. Talk it out if you have to clear any miscommunications about your requirement.

Try to be humble and relax. I can sense your stress and I haven't met you. These girls will too!

If all else fail, find my report on Medellin, the last two photos one of a dark curly hair white casa girl and the skinny blonde in bikini strip club girl will take care of you. Just remember, it also depends on your treatment and attitude with the girls. Just ask yourself, why do the CASA girls peak through the curtains before they come out!

You can find the blonde in club Ejecutivo and the other girl in that CASA with the topless presentation, can't recall the name or address of the CASA. Maybe another monger can help with name here.

Good luck and buy, I can tell that is something important for you, hence, I recommend the "island"

BS.


. So where can you find "midrange" girls that will kiss and make out and give the slightest bit of sensuality? To be clear, I am not looking for a pretend girlfriend to hang out with for a week, just someone for a few hours who acts like a nighttime working girl in other monger places around the world, instead of a brothel girl. Also, I do not want to move to the Mansion, and don't want to hire some local gringo to introduce me to all his old prepagos. And the girl has to be hot, to my tastes. The great thing with casas is you can see 30-40 girls, then choose one.

So does this scene exist, or is it all restricted to the Mansion and local guys with their networks? .

Ricker
10-19-12, 16:15
I have not been to Mayorista yet. Since I now know where to find hot casa girls, it hasnt seemed worth it given that casas are so cheap, and safer, simpler and closer. But maybe I am missing out? Hard for me to believe streetwalkers would be more passionate but who knows.

I had considered inviting a casa girl to my hotel one night, but I don't want to see them after they have been working all day. 6 days a week, and it is hard for me to deal with all the hassle when I know how cheaply and simply I can get them back in the casa.

So is there any way to find girls that give something similar to Mansion service (or just not the cold brothel service) without staying there? I am happy to pay more than the casa prices, but it just isn't clear where the next level up really is.

Thank you.Really, from the Mansion girls to the Mayo girls and Casa girls, and everything in between, the kissing, the GFE, etc is dependant on the natural chemestry and the vibe you give.

I can tell by the way you wrote about not wanting to invite a casa girl home because you can simply have them cheaper back at the casa, that you have not broken the simple code; treat the girls like girls and not just like a cheap f. K toy and really, the GFE just comes naturally.

I'm not saying just to be polite to them, that's a given, but be more, talk to them a bit, make them laugh, ask about their family, kids, studies, show them that you see them as a person and not just a quick piece of ass,

It's not that difficult.

If these girls see you as a cool, caring guy and they feel comfortable with you, and you don't act like just another hard on, the GFE will come.

Seriously, it's all in the attitude, and I don't care if you're offering a tip, asking for kissing, etc, it's still not going to be a GFE, just some cursory fakey fake stuff.

Good luck.

Member #4394
10-19-12, 16:17
It is not about place. It is about you. You need to be attractive to the girls.


I can find hot girls in the casas with enough time, and the price is great, but there is no kissing or making out, and the whole experience is so down to business it gets really boring after a while. I suggested a propina to one girl for kissing, and she seemed okay with that, but was then just unable to really change her mentality. And I am not a gross or ugly guy. That said, I'm not sure I should make out with such frequently used girls anways.

On the other hand, I had one girl from an expensive strip club that was reasonably GFE (kissing at least) , but the costs add up so fast there, and the whole scene can be a hassle to identify and get the attention of the right girl. And I don't know there is any assurance the girls will perform better than casa girls anyways.

So where can you find "midrange" girls that will kiss and make out and give the slightest bit of sensuality?

Thank you.

Aussie Greg
10-19-12, 21:36
LT,

I haven't noticed Monica in the press footage on T.V. from Norway of the Colombian government and FARC negociations!
Did she fly over for it ?

A. G.

CartaAngel
10-19-12, 23:59
It is not about place. It is about you. You need to be attractive to the girls.Matt, I agree with you, but on the other hand I would not blame zero 1, I have found women from cities closer to the capital city of Colombia are less friendly, and run a lot of scams, I have been a victim of that myself, it is hard to have a relationship with a chica from Medellin, all they care about is your wallet, I have been going to cities on the north of Colombia, such as Cartagena, and Santa marta etc they are a bit more pricy but I don't see that prepago scam there, pros are pros, and serious girls you can find for sure, is there any legit girls you recommend? Pass me some infos in a pvt if you can, thanks.

CartaAngel
10-20-12, 00:14
I have been to many of the centro casas, checked out the centro strip clubs, and went to the high end strip clubs like fase dos,

So where can you find "midrange" girls that will kiss and make out and give the slightest bit of sensuality? To be clear, I am not looking for a pretend girlfriend to hang out with for a week, just someone for a few hours who acts like a nighttime working girl in other monger places around the world, instead of a brothel girl. Also, I do not want to move to the Mansion, and don't want to hire some local gringo to introduce me to all his old prepagos. And the girl has to be hot, to my tastes. The great thing with casas is you can see 30-40 girls, then choose one.

So does this scene exist, or is it all restricted to the Mansion and local guys with their networks?

Are the high end casas any better? I checked out Energy once, and heard a list of all the restrictions that came with 30 minutes, but don't quite understand if they act differently for 1 hour.

I have not been to Mayorista yet. Since I now know where to find hot casa girls, it hasnt seemed worth it given that casas are so cheap, and safer, simpler and closer. But maybe I am missing out? Hard for me to believe streetwalkers would be more passionate but who knows.

I had considered inviting a casa girl to my hotel one night, but I don't want to see them after they have been working all day. 6 days a week, and it is hard for me to deal with all the hassle when I know how cheaply and simply I can get them back in the casa.

So is there any way to find girls that give something similar to Mansion service (or just not the cold brothel service) without staying there? I am happy to pay more than the casa prices, but it just isn't clear where the next level up really is.

Thank you.Hey Zero 1, I am not ugly or anything like that, I think the problem you are having is communication, try to find the one that understands you when you joke or so that works and makes you interesting to a girl, remember always keep them laughing and do not meet them and fuck them right away, try to be a gentleman, offer a drink, and chat if you can, you will let them know for sure you can be a great lover, you will know it is working when they start wanting to hang out with you more while you are in those casas or wherever yu are, ask for their numbers and text them saying hello, something like holla p. S: El gringo de tu vida, or whatever works for you, be nice to the girls you will see they will be throwing pussy your way always, send some my way when you become an expert at seducing LOL, peace out.

Hasideas Tao
10-20-12, 01:37
Went to the infamous New Life today. Decent line up however there was competition from like 8 dudes.

Ended up at Belle. 7 chicas. 4 were totally cute. Tough decision but a great time. Great time.

Meanwhile, Looking for a wing.

PM me.

Zero1
10-20-12, 02:53
Thanks for the replies. Some contradictory thoughts, but okay.

What is "the island"? Do you mean "La Isla"-I heard it was owned by the san diego people, but far from the city. I have not seen any online details about it-can you explain it, and is there any cheap way to get there?

I will check out the centro strip clubs again, and perhaps Mayorista. My problem with the centro strip clubs is that I thought the girls were not very good looking.

Perhaps I haven't been charming enough to the casa girls, but that really didn't seem like the issue. I actually began going there and talking to the girls and trying to warm them up, like I would in other countries, but I kept feeling this unstated attitude of something like "please stop being a silly gringo and thinking this place is anything more than a simple knocking shop." In other words, they seemed more comfortable just acting like a "cheap piece of ass", and like they had some clear routines and rules they seriously did not want to break. Who knows, I am basing this on a just a few times, so I am sure it varies by girl. I don't doubt that I can break through to some of the girls, but I don't feel like it makes sense to invest real time in romancing a casa girl outside of the casa, given the realities of her daily job.

And let's be honest, the entire setup and procedure at the casas is so non-sexy and business like to begin with. After a few times I found it easier and less awkward to just go with the flow rather than push for something different.

Anyways, I am surprised there is not a night time casa option, kind of like at Termas in Rio, where the price is higher, but there is a bar, music, more interaction, fewer customers a day, and better service. The daytime sterility of casas definitely leaves me feeling a bit sleazy at times! The casas do some things great, but they were obviously never designed to satisfy all the interests of most gringos. Thus the popularity of all the private networks of semi-pros, etc.


Really, from the Mansion girls to the Mayo girls and Casa girls, and everything in between, the kissing, the GFE, etc is dependant on the natural chemestry and the vibe you give.

I can tell by the way you wrote about not wanting to invite a casa girl home because you can simply have them cheaper back at the casa, that you have not broken the simple code; treat the girls like girls and not just like a cheap f. K toy and really, the GFE just comes naturally.

I'm not saying just to be polite to them, that's a given, but be more, talk to them a bit, make them laugh, ask about their family, kids, studies, show them that you see them as a person and not just a quick piece of ass,

It's not that difficult.

If these girls see you as a cool, caring guy and they feel comfortable with you, and you don't act like just another hard on, the GFE will come.

Seriously, it's all in the attitude, and I don't care if you're offering a tip, asking for kissing, etc, it's still not going to be a GFE, just some cursory fakey fake stuff.

Good luck.

Da Monger
10-20-12, 05:59
I will be traveling alone to Medellin & would like to hire some one on the ground to help me out. I have read about Parcero & ColombiaJake's but wondering if there are others who are under the radar? Anyone has any recommendations? PM me.

Thanks

Legal Tender
10-20-12, 07:46
LT,

I haven't noticed Monica in the press footage on T. V. From Norway of the Colombian government and FARC negociations!

Did she fly over for it?

A. G.A. G, she going to EAFIT with the Poblado upper crust. Still a leader, but she's starting to understand that change can come from the inside easier than the outside. She's still evangelical about economic and social justice. Anyone would have to love her passion for "her" people. But she's becoming older and more educated, and more realistic. We are going to her graduation. She's getting more conservative while I've gotten more liberal. She's an unusual combination of rage against the status quo and compassion for the people of Colombia. I guess a little of that has rubbed off on me.

Only good energy, amigo

Legal Tender
10-20-12, 07:52
It is not about place. It is about you. You need to be attractive to the girls.Yep, that's right. The thicker the wallet the more attractive you become.

Legal Tender
10-20-12, 08:01
Really, from the Mansion girls to the Mayo girls and Casa girls, and everything in between, the kissing, the GFE, etc is dependant on the natural chemestry and the vibe you give.

I can tell by the way you wrote about not wanting to invite a casa girl home because you can simply have them cheaper back at the casa, that you have not broken the simple code; treat the girls like girls and not just like a cheap f. K toy and really, the GFE just comes naturally.

I'm not saying just to be polite to them, that's a given, but be more, talk to them a bit, make them laugh, ask about their family, kids, studies, show them that you see them as a person and not just a quick piece of ass,

It's not that difficult.

If these girls see you as a cool, caring guy and they feel comfortable with you, and you don't act like just another hard on, the GFE will come.

Seriously, it's all in the attitude, and I don't care if you're offering a tip, asking for kissing, etc, it's still not going to be a GFE, just some cursory fakey fake stuff.

Good luck.Ricker has a great ability to capture the truth in just a few words. The key in what was written, i think, is "caring." If you don't think you have it in you to honestly be interested in a working girl's life, then why should you expect attention and affection in addition to the obligatory sex? If you want GFE, then be a BFE, even if for just an hour.

Only good energy, remember?

Legal Tender
10-20-12, 08:29
And let's be honest, the entire setup and procedure at the casas is so non-sexy and business like to begin with. After a few times I found it easier and less awkward to just go with the flow rather than push for something different.So, how is going with the flow working for you? Amigo, if you want something in addition to mechanical sex, you don't get it by being pushy. One establishes his own flow and his own energy. Sex permeates Medellin. Like Richer said, just treat these girls, any girl that you want to have sex with, like someone that you want to share a little slice of her life. A must is knowing enough Spanish to communicate, but it's so easy after that. I haven't been to a casa in a long time, but I don't remember a bad experience. Make them laugh. It works with women anywhere.

Two weeks ago I was visiting with a beautiful young lawyer in Medellin about business. She agreed to go to dinner since we hadn't finished our discussion and I had to leave the next day. We talked about her family, her ex boyfriend, her profession. About her life. Now, this girl is young enough to be my daughter. We were enjoying each other's company and after a bottle of wine, I explained that she had a great responsibility. I explained that until I met her, I felt that I was turning gay and that she was the only woman in the world that could save me. Of course, she ask me if I was serious, and I said to her,"do you think that I would kid about something as important as that?" And I explained that if that happened, it was because of her choice. She was the only one that could save me. In due course, I ask her if she thought she could save me. She said, of course, she could and explained that she had many men interested in her, but she was too busy with her work. I certainly understood that, and agreed that she could save me, and she was the only one that could. A simple "let's go" lead to a wonderful night with a beautiful, educated young woman. In the morning I confirmed that I was in fact straight, and it was her and her alone that had saved me from the scourge of homosexuality. We laughed, and now we are friends. It's not that hard.

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10-20-12, 13:28
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Hasideas Tao
10-20-12, 14:57
Rain rain rain.

Mayorista. In spite of the rain there were many girls. In my non inebriated state, I noticed 3 or 4 I considered barely doable. And by that I mean, that is how many did not have belly jiggle. While nursing my beer, a very tight jeans, big fake boobs, pretty face chica gets out of a taxi walking like a peacock. Easily the hottest girl to show up, highly attributed to her nice clothes and confident attitude. She was a little thick or big or maybe athletic looking depending how you see things. Anyway, she was grabbed within 5 minutes. I give her a 7 based on sex appeal. I should have grabbed her.

Went to Executiva in centro. Approx 25 chicas. In my book. 4 doable. And again, by that I mean 3 with relatively flat tummies. Most of them had these military like costumes on. It was cute. One chica was just dressed in street clothes and I was not sure she was even working. Turns out she was. She was fun to chat and flirt with but very pushy. To the point where I eventually left her. She wanted 100mil to meet me around the corner so I would not have to pay the exit fee. I may call her.

I need to stop being so nice. But part of it is because the picking were pretty slim and I want the interaction.

Peace

Member #4394
10-20-12, 17:57
I have noticed that the stereotypes of Paisas, to the Colombians outside of Medellin, are hardcore, cold-blood and agressive materialists. It could be (only) partially true. While a few pros have ripped me off, some pros and non-pros in Medellin are friendly and give me numbers sometimes. While a few pros have declined my invitation, a few pros have given me a freebie and traveled with me. Probably just a chemistry. Girls nice to me may not be nice to you and girls nice to you may not be nice to me either.

Money is a "minimum" requirement, but not a charm booster. After a certain level, your wealth may have a limited or modest effect on your attractiveness. If you are a millionaire, it does not make you 10x attractive than a guy who make 100k, especially to pros. So as for the relationship between mens' wealth and attractiveness, there is a law of diminished return, if not a negative relationship.

Overall, we all may want to have a realistic expectation. If girls who are 30 years younger than you do not come to you in the USA, there is no reason why girls in Medellin would do otherwise. In Colombia and other countries, I saw "a few" gringos who believed that they looked like Brad Pitt and acted accordingly because they "thought" they were rich. Also I heard what pros and non pros talked about these guys. Thanks.


Matt, I agree with you, but on the other hand I would not blame zero 1, I have found women from cities closer to the capital city of Colombia are less friendly, and run a lot of scams, I have been a victim of that myself, it is hard to have a relationship with a chica from Medellin, all they care about is your wallet, I have been going to cities on the north of Colombia, such as Cartagena, and Santa marta etc they are a bit more pricy but I don't see that prepago scam there, pros are pros, and serious girls you can find for sure, is there any legit girls you recommend? Pass me some infos in a pvt if you can, thanks.

Member #4394
10-20-12, 18:42
Look at the presentations of girls carefully. Only choose a girl who smiled to you. Avoid girls who are indifferent to you. Ask a few questions to the girls you like, and see how they react. If the girl touches you or keeps holding your hand, of course she likes you.


Thanks for the replies. Some contradictory thoughts, but okay.

What is "the island"? Do you mean "La Isla"-I heard it was owned by the san diego people, but far from the city. I have not seen any online details about it-can you explain it, and is there any cheap way to get there?

I will check out the centro strip clubs again, and perhaps Mayorista. My problem with the centro strip clubs is that I thought the girls were not very good looking.

Perhaps I haven't been charming enough to the casa girls, but that really didn't seem like the issue. I actually began going there and talking to the girls and trying to warm them up, like I would in other countries, but I kept feeling this unstated attitude of something like "please stop being a silly gringo and thinking this place is anything more than a simple knocking shop." In other words, they seemed more comfortable just acting like a "cheap piece of ass", and like they had some clear routines and rules they seriously did not want to break. Who knows, I am basing this on a just a few times, so I am sure it varies by girl. I don't doubt that I can break through to some of the girls, but I don't feel like it makes sense to invest real time in romancing a casa girl outside of the casa, given the realities of her daily job.

And let's be honest, the entire setup and procedure at the casas is so non-sexy and business like to begin with. After a few times I found it easier and less awkward to just go with the flow rather than push for something different.

Anyways, I am surprised there is not a night time casa option, kind of like at Termas in Rio, where the price is higher, but there is a bar, music, more interaction, fewer customers a day, and better service. The daytime sterility of casas definitely leaves me feeling a bit sleazy at times! The casas do some things great, but they were obviously never designed to satisfy all the interests of most gringos. Thus the popularity of all the private networks of semi-pros, etc.

Ezyngo
10-20-12, 20:37
A simple "let's go" lead to a wonderful night with a beautiful, educated young woman. In the morning I confirmed that I was in fact straight, and it was her and her alone that had saved me from the scourge of homosexuality. We laughed, and now we are friends. It's not that hard.Nothing beats free sex with a gorgeous Paisa. My hats to you.

Cheers.

Ricker
10-20-12, 21:11
Look at the presentations of girls carefully. Only choose a girl who smiled to you. Avoid girls who are indifferent to you. Ask a few questions to the girls you like, and see how they react. If the girl touches you or keeps holding your hand, of course she likes you.Great advice!

Also, if you like a girl, once they've all presented, have her come back to talk for a few minutes before making the decision to go with her.

You'll easily feel out the chemestry between you, or the non-chemestry and move on.

My last trip to Medellin, I selected no chemestry duds with me, because I followed Matt's advice and my own, by further talking with them before the final selection.

Matter of fact. 2 of the girls have become friends and we keep in touch, and planning my return to meet up, one of them is a star for me.

Good luck

TweedleD
10-21-12, 02:57
I will be traveling alone to Medellin & would like to hire some one on the ground to help me out. I have read about Parcero & ColombiaJake's but wondering if there are others who are under the radar? Anyone has any recommendations? PM me.

ThanksGuidesbyandrea dot com, Or Medellinadventuretours dot com Both Jimmy and Andrea are absolutely wonderful, spectacular really nice people, you can't go wrong with either of them!

TheTij
10-21-12, 06:29
Hi there, I'm new to the beauty Medellin has to offer and currently staying in Envigado.

I'm definitely planning on going to downtown Medellin to check out the girls there.

However I was wondering if anyone knows of any casas in Envigado itself, if possible close to Parque Envigado.

You know, sometimes when it's late in the night I just want to be able to walk to a casa and not have the hassle of taking taxis.

Or if there are no casas, do Prepagos work in and around Parque Envigado?

Thanks

BrasilSoccer0
10-21-12, 19:58
Thetij,

How did you end up staying in envigado? That's way down south and far from p4p. I know cause I LIVED there for a while by the gym.

Don't waste your time. Envigado is the cleanest municipality in medelline. No p4p there. Not even gangs can survive there.

Parquet envigado is where you can meet regular nice people. You want to meet regular young women, go to the nightclubs by the gym. About 4 blocks west of the park.

But really man, why Envigado?

Oh, while you are there go visit "Escobar" prison way up on the mountains. A real cool tourist spot.

BS.


Hi there, I'm new to the beauty Medellin has to offer and currently staying in Envigado.

I'm definitely planning on going to downtown Medellin to check out the girls there.

However I was wondering if anyone knows of any casas in Envigado itself, if possible close to Parque Envigado.

You know, sometimes when it's late in the night I just want to be able to walk to a casa and not have the hassle of taking taxis.

Or if there are no casas, do Prepagos work in and around Parque Envigado?

Thanks

Psychman
10-21-12, 21:27
Great to see quality posts and information now being published again on this forum! Great job guys, and all it seemed to take was the banning of one flaming fool. Keep it coming!

Chesscat
10-21-12, 23:20
If you are in Envigado you should get in touch with BlueDevil, who lives there, he posts on a competing forum.

Hillbilly69
10-22-12, 10:49
You know, sometimes when it's late in the night I just want to be able to walk to a casa and not have the hassle of taking taxis.

Or if there are no casas, do Prepagos work in and around Parque Envigado?

ThanksYour not far from Mayorista, walkable by day if your adventurous, it isn't a casa.

TheTij
10-23-12, 00:30
Thanks for the info guys. I might check out Mayorista during the day this week.

And BrasilSoccer0, to answer your question "why Envigado". Because I'm her to stay for a while. Not visiting for just p4p, that's secondary.

Got some work to do, and if I were to live next to Parque Lleras I would not get ANY work done.

TheTij

Member #4394
10-23-12, 06:41
No. Please go to Mayorista after 9pm. There's nothing in Mayo in the daytime.
During the daytime, you may want to visit casas in Centro, which are closed in the night.
Personally I like Envigado. I prefer Envigado to El Poblado.


Thanks for the info guys. I might check out Mayorista during the day this week.

And BrasilSoccer0, to answer your question "why Envigado". Because I'm her to stay for a while. Not visiting for just p4p, that's secondary.

Got some work to do, and if I were to live next to Parque Lleras I would not get ANY work done.

TheTij

Rainman3
10-23-12, 08:21
if you are in envigado you should get in touch with bluedevil, who lives there, he posts on a competing forum.to the very best of my knowledge bd lives in sabaneta unless he has just very recently moved.

Chesscat
10-23-12, 19:51
You're right, my bad.


To the very best of my knowledge BD lives in Sabaneta unless he has just very recently moved.

BrasilSoccer0
10-24-12, 04:33
I'm not Shute how long you are staying there but the gym is a great place to meet girls.

BS.

Legal Tender
10-24-12, 15:34
Not visiting for just p4p, that's secondary.Fellow womanizers, is the pursuit of the perfect sexual experience ever secondary? I anticipated that as I enjoy senior states in age and station of life, that woman would not have so much control over me. The intensity the sexual experience with the woman that has giving pleasure in her heart, and the perfect body in a tranquil environment takes one to a brief trip to heaven. Isn't that the addiction that we all share? Fuck, sometimes I wish it were secondary, but even when I have everything material that anyone could ever reasonably desire, I'm still searching for the better "high" Worse than crack cocaine.

Tij, I know what you mean about having to get some work done. All of them are p4p in some context, and everyone has to live. Besides, I assume you have commitments regarding your work. Got to respect that. If anyone doesn't do what he says he will, then there is no chance of enjoying. .

Only good energy

El Bacano
10-24-12, 20:38
P4p is allways secondary for me, I like to visit the city for its natural beauty, I actually never noticed it had a female population at first. So secondarily I will be heading to Medellin in a month on a secondary mission. Does any one know of a place El Central thats extremely crowded with secondaries I passed it one day and I'm unable to find this place again.

Norman Stormin
10-25-12, 14:46
P4p is allways secondary for me, I like to visit the city for its natural beauty, I actually never noticed it had a female population at first. So secondarily I will be heading to Medellin in a month on a secondary mission. Does any one know of a place El Central thats extremely crowded with secondaries I passed it one day and I'm unable to find this place again.Carerra 52 one block south of Museo Antioquia on Plaza Botero (exit the Metro at Parque Berrio).

Lots of Secondaries!

Happy Hunting

TheGuyOverThere
10-26-12, 03:18
Anyone have any Halloween event recommendations?

BlancoVikingo
10-26-12, 13:13
Fellow womanizers.

I like the enhacement Viagra gives, but not the sideeffects, but it is cheap generic in Medellin. Cialis is much better, but I have not a fund a generic one, original where like 20-28 k pesos in December 2010.

Has this changed? Has anyone come over generic Cialis?

Important for me since I like very long sessions, visiting 2-4 places before I give in fully exhausted. Those Cialis are essential in the pursuit of the perfect sexual experience.

Colombia Jake
10-26-12, 19:36
Lots of sexually deprived USA horney guys in town for Halloween! Tem arrived here and took my Master Suite and could not be a cooler southern Louisiana dude! Yesterday after arriving he was starving after a long flight and was in the mood for empanadas. Walked over to my favorite place just a block away for chicken empanadas with a creamy hot sauce that makes them real tasty. A couple hours to recharge and time to meet up in Lleras for 3 for 1 Drinks and a couple of average chica's at our table to pass the time. I sent them on their way because my man Tem prefers above average chica's and with his above average cash flow we took off for Fase Dos. The energy was real good along with the amount of chica's as well as the Beauty level! Lots of fun! We'll see if he's interested in one or two Crazy Halloween Parties I know of tonight, or more adventure's with the strippers? Tem leaves on Saturday and guess who arrives again on the 7th. Yup can't get enough Matt from Alaska! Colombiajake. Com

BlancoVikingo
10-27-12, 23:23
Fellow Womanizers.

I got off my +80hs week working programe a little to early, so I now have been spending my time since 7 weeks surfing Cupid Romance etc. Until I arrive at Medellin late December for 10 weeks.

My conclusion is that Internet has made the Paisa Pimps unemployed.

The girls simply use this sites as advertizing media. It's free and no pimps involved. Profits goes up 111% directly! Plus the chance to get gringos to send them money for a Crying Game. The best business idea since The Catolic Chuch invented letter of indulgence. I can just congratulate those girls who make such easy money. If I was not a Vikingo I would love to be a hot Paisa!

Internet hooking is so profitable that is attracts females of every social group, since it so discrete, which gives us Inglourious Basterds access to The Greatest De Luxe Bordello In The World.

The Quest for The Ultimate Erotic Experience.

My method is to use Cialis / Viagra since it obvoiusly gives you a boner for hours if you can control the cum-impulse while visiting as many 1st Class babes as can until You give in. I tried this 2010. It worked wonderfully. As a reward for this sexually torture, now a fully relaxed Gentleman You ask Your favourite serious paisa out to Teatro Metropolitano and afterward to "The Eden restaurant at The Charlee hotel is a beautiful place to enjoy a romantic dinner and drink. There is also a rooftop bar and lounge called Envy that is perfect for a private and quiet drink."

You only need one, two such experiences a week. Memories seems to last. For years!

Brasil maybe still be hotter, but a too strong currency and Portugese is still obstacles I have to overcome since I do long time trips.

Fish Pargo
10-30-12, 04:57
Fellow womanizers.

I like the enhacement Viagra gives, but not the sideeffects, but it is cheap generic in Medellin. Cialis is much better, but I have not a fund a generic one, original where like 20-28 k pesos in December 2010.

Has this changed? Has anyone come over generic Cialis?

Important for me since I like very long sessions, visiting 2-4 places before I give in fully exhausted. Those Cialis are essential in the pursuit of the perfect sexual experience.Blanco,

Lilly's patent has not run out yet, so no there is no generic, or at least a legal one I would recommend. BTW and I say this in the nicest way mixing Viagra and Cialis. Uhm not bueno my friend. (unless I misread another post of yours. Then I apologize) Yes you would be probably ok most of the time but it only takes one time for it to fuck you up permanently, . And no I am not talking about the pinga but cardiac effects.

Cialis is a great drug. If you want a good in between drug and less side effects, Levitra is a good one.

Legal Tender
10-30-12, 06:47
Fellow Womanizers.

I got off my +80hs week working programe a little to early, so I now have been spending my time since 7 weeks surfing Cupid Romance etc. Until I arrive at Medellin late December for 10 weeks.

My conclusion is that Internet has made the Paisa Pimps unemployed.

The girls simply use this sites as advertizing media. It's free and no pimps involved. Profits goes up 111% directly! Plus the chance to get gringos to send them money for a Crying Game. The best business idea since The Catolic Chuch invented letter of indulgence. I can just congratulate those girls who make such easy money. If I was not a Vikingo I would love to be a hot Paisa!

Internet hooking is so profitable that is attracts females of every social group, since it so discrete, which gives us Inglourious Basterds access to The Greatest De Luxe Bordello In The World.BV speaks the truth. The sites like Cupid Romance, etc, are p4p advertisements, personified. And, it crossed every socio-economic group. The Poblado girls aim a little higher just because that's what they've become accustomed to. There is not such thing as free sex. The next time you think you've met a "normal" girl, just remember there is no such thing as free sex. Say it one hundred times until you come back to reality. They all want something!

I've been having sex with this beautiful 24 year old Paisa lawyer who drives an E class Mercedes and has a nice place in Poblado. I don't pay her a penny directly, but have mutual clients, that I control, that pay her a butt load of COPs for her legal work, and she is damn smart. But, for that relationship and the benefit she receives, I would never been able to have sex with her. I know it. She knows it. And now you know it. There is no free sex, and they all have their price.

Only good energy, and my wish that we all find the magical sexual experience.

Aussie Greg
10-31-12, 23:08
L. T.

Your trying to tell me Romance Latinas is not a web site I can trust to find a loving wife, gosh.

A. G.


BV speaks the truth. The sites like Cupid Romance, etc, are p4p advertisements, personified. And, it crossed every socio-economic group. The Poblado girls aim a little higher just because that's what they've become accustomed to. There is not such thing as free sex. The next time you think you've met a "normal" girl, just remember there is no such thing as free sex. Say it one hundred times until you come back to reality. They all want something!

I've been having sex with this beautiful 24 year old Paisa lawyer who drives an E class Mercedes and has a nice place in Poblado. I don't pay her a penny directly, but have mutual clients, that I control, that pay her a butt load of COPs for her legal work, and she is damn smart. But, for that relationship and the benefit she receives, I would never been able to have sex with her. I know it. She knows it. And now you know it. There is no free sex, and they all have their price.

Only good energy, and my wish that we all find the magical sexual experience.

Bbrocs
11-02-12, 03:49
Two weeks ago I was visiting with a beautiful young lawyer in Medellin about business. She agreed to go to dinner since we hadn't finished our discussion and I had to leave the next day. We talked about her family, her ex boyfriend, her profession. About her life. Now, this girl is young enough to be my daughter. We were enjoying each other's company and after a bottle of wine, I explained that she had a great responsibility. I explained that until I met her, I felt that I was turning gay and that she was the only woman in the world that could save me. Of course, she ask me if I was serious, and I said to her,"do you think that I would kid about something as important as that?" And I explained that if that happened, it was because of her choice. She was the only one that could save me. In due course, I ask her if she thought she could save me. She said, of course, she could and explained that she had many men interested in her, but she was too busy with her work. I certainly understood that, and agreed that she could save me, and she was the only one that could. A simple "let's go" lead to a wonderful night with a beautiful, educated young woman. In the morning I confirmed that I was in fact straight, and it was her and her alone that had saved me from the scourge of homosexuality. We laughed, and now we are friends. It's not that hard.This story is truly how to operate in Medellin. One of my renters was talking to a blonde at my house. There rapping and he is like well why don't you come up stairs. She's like well you have to pay me. He fires back "pay you, but I like you, in a very sincere voice." She's just like ok then.

This is the power of Medellin, and in essence self confidence, being sweet, asking about her, telling a joke. Hell I seen guys with zero Spanish but the best ever at the old game charades I ever seen make them laugh right out of there pants 0 dollars. I here guys tell me about the weather and write about the great weather here in Medellin. That's all bullshit, if this was the artic circle with fun, intense women like this we all be there with are snow suits on. I hear guys asking me if you think she's using me, aren't we all getting something mutual from each other. This coming from a 40 something desk pusher who hasn't been to the gym in the decade and is asking me if this gorgeous 20 something wants something more then love from him. Your on vacation, enjoy your time, soon you'll be back behind your desk, grabbing your Starbucks reminiscing about Wendy Herrera or the other heart-throbs on the prepago MDE circuit. My advice, don't over think, don't marry, don't make them any promises you can't deliver and enjoy. Leave them laughing.

Happy Halloween

Carlos3000
11-02-12, 15:11
Your on vacation, enjoy your time, soon you'll be back behind your desk, grabbing your Starbucks reminiscing about Wendy Herrera or the other heart-throbs on the prepago MDE circuit. My advice, don't over think, don't marry, don't make them any promises you can't deliver and enjoy. Leave them laughing.

Happy HalloweenThis should be required reading for all mongers, vets and newbies. Well said.

Combo
11-02-12, 23:39
This story is truly how to operate in Medellin. One of my renters was talking to a blonde at my house. There rapping and he is like well why don't you come up stairs. She's like well you have to pay me. He fires back "pay you, but I like you, in a very sincere voice." She's just like ok then.

This is the power of Medellin, and in essence self confidence, being sweet, asking about her, telling a joke. Hell I seen guys with zero Spanish but the best ever at the old game charades I ever seen make them laugh right out of there pants 0 dollars. I here guys tell me about the weather and write about the great weather here in Medellin. That's all bullshit, if this was the artic circle with fun, intense women like this we all be there with are snow suits on. I hear guys asking me if you think she's using me, aren't we all getting something mutual from each other. This coming from a 40 something desk pusher who hasn't been to the gym in the decade and is asking me if this gorgeous 20 something wants something more then love from him. Your on vacation, enjoy your time, soon you'll be back behind your desk, grabbing your Starbucks reminiscing about Wendy Herrera or the other heart-throbs on the prepago MDE circuit. My advice, don't over think, don't marry, don't make them any promises you can't deliver and enjoy. Leave them laughing.

Happy HalloweenNo. I categorically wouldn't visit MDE if it had arctic weather. The rest of your post I agree with.

TweedleD
11-02-12, 23:50
How many times does the guy say "not nessesary" in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwjTqBW2HZM

Vitrea
11-03-12, 00:44
Fellow Womanizers.

I got off my +80hs week working programe a little to early, so I now have been spending my time since 7 weeks surfing Cupid Romance etc. Until I arrive at Medellin late December for 10 weeks.

......
The Quest for The Ultimate Erotic Experience.

My method is to use Cialis / Viagra since it obvoiusly gives you a boner for hours if you can control the cum-impulse While visiting as many 1st Class babes as can until You give in. I tried this 2010. It worked wonderfully. As a reward for this sexually torture, now a fully relaxed Gentleman You ask Your favourite serious paisa out to Teatro Metropolitano and afterward to "The Eden restaurant at The Charlee hotel is a beautiful place to enjoy a romantic dinner and drink. There is also a rooftop bar and lounge called Envy that is perfect for a private and quiet drink."

You only need one, two such experiences a week. Memories seems to last. For years!

Brasil maybe still be hotter, but a too strong currency and Portugese is still obstacles I have to overcome since I do long time trips.Great advice. Referring to comment in bold; Add 10-20 mg of Paxil if cum-impulse is an issue. :-)

BlancoVikingo
11-03-12, 01:00
I plan to spend 40% of my time in Medellin / latinamerica: I work intensly and then take long vacations. So, yes, you can can have a relationship in Medellin. At your own risk of course, this babes now how to play you.

I met an US physician working in Florida intensly and then living in Medellin where we studied Castellano together, another gringo from Minnesota had his wife in Periera. I met him at strip club.

Make promises that you maybe can't deliver, go crazy- fall in love- Just do It!

Prepare yourself for the Adventure of your life. It is worth to spend a lot of time in the gym, learning some essential Spanish and knowledge about Medellin. Consider that many good looking girls are open to meet with you. A normal salary is $500 US for young girl, or less. Consider that when paying for services or making long term compromises.

I think Paisas are well aware of they being a beautiful people so I would not rely on self confidence alone. They have high standards regarding fitness, especially for foreigners."they make money, but we work out- and we dress well".

You only have one life. Work hard in sexprison-spend your savings in Medellin / latinamerica. That's one recepy, it works wonderfully for me.


This story is truly how to operate in Medellin. One of my renters was talking to a blonde at my house. There rapping and he is like well why don't you come up stairs. She's like well you have to pay me. He fires back "pay you, but I like you, in a very sincere voice." She's just like ok then.

This is the power of Medellin, and in essence self confidence, being sweet, asking about her, telling a joke. Hell I seen guys with zero Spanish but the best ever at the old game charades I ever seen make them laugh right out of there pants 0 dollars. I here guys tell me about the weather and write about the great weather here in Medellin. That's all bullshit, if this was the artic circle with fun, intense women like this we all be there with are snow suits on. I hear guys asking me if you think she's using me, aren't we all getting something mutual from each other. This coming from a 40 something desk pusher who hasn't been to the gym in the decade and is asking me if this gorgeous 20 something wants something more then love from him. Your on vacation, enjoy your time, soon you'll be back behind your desk, grabbing your Starbucks reminiscing about Wendy Herrera or the other heart-throbs on the prepago MDE circuit. My advice, don't over think, don't marry, don't make them any promises you can't deliver and enjoy. Leave them laughing.

Happy Halloween

Vitrea
11-03-12, 01:07
I have noticed that the stereotypes of Paisas, to the Colombians outside of Medellin, are hardcore, cold-blood and agressive materialists. It could be (only) partially true. While a few pros have ripped me off, some pros and non-pros in Medellin are friendly and give me numbers sometimes. While a few pros have declined my invitation, a few pros have given me a freebie and traveled with me. Probably just a chemistry. Girls nice to me may not be nice to you and girls nice to you may not be nice to me either.

Money is a "minimum" requirement, but not a charm booster. After a certain level, your wealth may have a limited or modest effect on your attractiveness. If you are a millionaire, it does not make you 10x attractive than a guy who make 100k, especially to pros. So as for the relationship between mens' wealth and attractiveness, there is a law of diminished return, if not a negative relationship.

Overall, we all may want to have a realistic expectation. If girls who are 30 years younger than you do not come to you in the USA, there is no reason why girls in Medellin would do otherwise. In Colombia and other countries, I saw "a few" gringos who believed that they looked like Brad Pitt and acted accordingly because they "thought" they were rich. Also I heard what pros and non pros talked about these guys. Thanks.I agree with the post and very good advice. However, I do think that latin American women, culturally, are more open to a public "relationship" with an older man than a north American woman. I do agree that it may not work if you "act" like you look like Brad Pitt. Last time I was in MDE, I met a young woman in a bar and hung out with her all night. She introduced me to her friends and her family, went to restaurants and discos and never made me feel like I am 20 yrs older than her. Unlikely that would have happened in the USA. I also think that acceptance of age difference is a big attraction for lot of gringos. It does help to act and feel young though :-)

Dickhead
11-03-12, 04:33
In Latin America, anywhere in Latin America but more so in some places than others, the combination of an older man and a younger woman says two things: the man is successful and the woman is desirable. Cortés and La Malinche, Porfirio Díaz and Carmen Romero Rubio, Solano López and Madame Lynch, etc. In fact latino families strive to fix their daughters up with successful OLDER men.

Ricker
11-03-12, 16:48
I agree with the post and very good advice. However, I do think that latin American women, culturally, are more open to a public "relationship" with an older man than a north American woman. I do agree that it may not work if you "act" like you look like Brad Pitt. Last time I was in MDE, I met a young woman in a bar and hung out with her all night. She introduced me to her friends and her family, went to restaurants and discos and never made me feel like I am 20 yrs older than her. Unlikely that would have happened in the USA. I also think that acceptance of age difference is a big attraction for lot of gringos. It does help to act and feel young though :-)Without question this is true.

It's much more culturally open in Latin America vs USA / the West.

Your last couple sentences are right on the money as well amigo.

FruitNinja
11-03-12, 17:14
without question this is true.

it's much more culturally open in latin america vs usa / the west.

your last couple sentences are right on the money as well amigo.ricker, seems to be a good old usa issue. i've taken a 23 year old to asia (i'm 50's) and nobody gave us a second look. traveled italy with a 24 year old, not a peep. spent two weeks in turkey with a 29 year old. nadda! go to a international city like dc or nyc and you seldom get a look. try it in st louis and you get comments. best was my asian 24 yo honey running after a redneck because he call called me woody allen. ha! i had to hold her back before she clawed his eyes out. maybe if i chewed tobacco wore cowboy boots and a baseball hat?

AlwaysHorny 2
11-04-12, 02:02
First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks!

Infanticide
11-04-12, 03:14
First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks!The only advantage to Cartagena is the beach. A girl that will set you back 30k COP in a Medellin casa will ask for a minimum of 300k COP in Cartagena. Cartagena is full of touts and scammers that target tourists, Medellin isn't. Most of the best looking girls in Cartagena will be from Medellin. If this is purely a sex-cation, you're better off sticking in Medellin the entire trip. If you need a cover story and some beach / old city photos for back home, then do a pitstop in Cartagena.

CartaAngel
11-04-12, 04:36
First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks!Hey alwayshorney, you can make a good decision based upon what your budget is, if you are looking for a quality and relaxing vacation while you have a variety of girls to choose from, I'd recommend Cartagena, there you get to see girls from all over Colombia and the best looking ones go to Ctg during this season because thats the place to be now during Nov to Jan, Medellin is ok it is cheaper, but simply for that reason, it is not like Cartagena and doesn't offer the same as a vacation destination, from my experience there I was jaded of the city on my second day also I got robbed twice in Medellin, in Ctg I feel safer, infanticide sounds like he didn't have a good experience in Ctg, but I disagree with him when he says there is a bunch of scammers in ctg that target tourists, thats absolutely not true, Colombia is a nice country and I think it has the nicest people in latin america, please don't let just a few bad people dull the good things out, research more and get referrals about who to deal with whether you decide between ctg and Medellin, conclusion: low prices Medellin, relaxing vacation by the ocean and variety of colombian pussy and all south america Ctg.

CartaAngel
11-04-12, 04:44
First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks!I forgot to mention February is affordable in Cartagena prices drop down to about 40, and you can avail yourself of the carnival time in Barranquilla once again a lot of variety, national tourists go to Barranquilla and make stops in ctg, I met the hottest girls earlier this year during that carnival, it was fun and unforgettable

Combo
11-04-12, 06:21
First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks!For 10 nights, I'd definitely do both. Maybe 3 or 4 days in Cartagena and the rest in MDE.

The beach in Cartagena isn't particularly nice, but the old City is definitely worth seeing.

MDE will have better weather and in general is a bit cheaper for chicas.

AlwaysHorny 2
11-04-12, 15:51
Thanks for the response. How is the nightlife in MDE? I like to party. I will also do some sightseeing as well. I need other activity than simply searching for pussy. I am treating this like a real vacation and not a pure mongering trip.


For 10 nights, I'd definitely do both. Maybe 3 or 4 days in Cartagena and the rest in MDE.

The beach in Cartagena isn't particularly nice, but the old City is definitely worth seeing.

MDE will have better weather and in general is a bit cheaper for chicas.

Yujin
11-04-12, 19:42
For 10 nights, I'd definitely do both. Maybe 3 or 4 days in Cartagena and the rest in MDE.

The beach in Cartagena isn't particularly nice, but the old City is definitely worth seeing.

MDE will have better weather and in general is a bit cheaper for chicas.Splitting your time between the two cities is a good idea and the airfare is fairly reasonable. This is what I've done. When it's winter time at home, there's nothing like spending some time on a sunny beach in Cartagena.

The beaches around the old town of Cartagena aren't great, but the beaches of Bocagrande and El Laguito are nice and the water clean and calm for swimming.

If you don't like heat and humidity, MDE would be the place for you. The last time I did a Cartagena / MDE trip, it rained the entire 7 days (not drizzle, but bucket downpours) that I was in MDE and it didn't rain at all during my 5 days in Cartagena. Needless to say, I was longing to go back to Cartagena.

Combo
11-04-12, 20:07
Thanks for the response. How is the nightlife in MDE? I like to party. I will also do some sightseeing as well. I need other activity than simply searching for pussy. I am treating this like a real vacation and not a pure mongering trip.I'm generally not a huge partier. However there's about 3 Million people living in MDE, so I imagine there's some decent nightlife. If you like Salsa,
El Suave on Calle 50 is a great place to party. (though neither Cartagena or MDE has a great dance scene like Cali).

Cartagena has some excellent places to party around the Old City. Not sure if it's still there, but Tu Candela was my favorite bar / Club in Cartagena.

As far as weather, MDE has more rain, with a delightful temperature that's rarely too hot or cold. Cartagena is hot and humid.

You should have a great time going to both places.

Bart1
11-04-12, 23:47
Without question this is true.

It's much more culturally open in Latin America vs USA / the West.

Your last couple sentences are right on the money as well amigo.I just have to throw my 2 cents worth in. Without a doubt there are only 2 countries, Colombia and Thailand with such great acceptance of young chica older guy, but it goes much further than being with a young chica in public places. The friendliness of young chicas to me [60+ kanuckistan gringo) I encounter in stores and restaurants in Colombia is in total contrast to what I encounter in Canada. The friendliness of Colombianas toward older gringos also exceeds that of chicas in Ecuador and Peru in my humble opinion. I am presently in Ecuador saving my last 32 days left on my max 180 in Colombia for when my novia has her university holidays. A few notes to older gringos wanting to have a relationship with a chica, lose the big gut, if 50+ dress 35 ish, (but no white runners) buy a trimmer and use it on the nose hairs, ears, eyebrows and down below. Ricker talks about being 20 years older and meeting the parents, I meet the parents and I am 20 years older than the mother. (I am jealous Ricker I only wish I was 20 years older than the chica also).

SlamCity7777
11-05-12, 01:23
I just have to throw my 2 cents worth in. Without a doubt there are only 2 countries, Colombia and Thailand with such great acceptance of young chica older guy, but it goes much further than being with a young chica in public places. The friendliness of young chicas to me [60+ kanuckistan gringo) I encounter in stores and restaurants in Colombia is in total contrast to what I encounter in Canada. The friendliness of Colombianas toward older gringos also exceeds that of chicas in Ecuador and Peru in my humble opinion. I am presently in Ecuador saving my last 32 days left on my max 180 in Colombia for when my novia has her university holidays. A few notes to older gringos wanting to have a relationship with a chica, lose the big gut, if 50+ dress 35 ish, (but no white runners) buy a trimmer and use it on the nose hairs, ears, eyebrows and down below. Ricker talks about being 20 years older and meeting the parents, I meet the parents and I am 20 years older than the mother. (I am jealous Ricker I only wish I was 20 years older than the chica also).First let me say "Good For Us!" this recent subject matter did not devolve into a Young vs Old gringo flame battle. Signs of life!

I'm usually on the young side of the argument.

Let's focus on what is important in the last few posts.

Bart nailed some of the most obvious IMO:

1) Lose the gut=be the best you can be. NOBODY likes a fat slob! If you have a few extra LBS. Develop a funny and outgoing personality!

2) Dress nice, get a new shirt and not one with a huge design / pattern. If your best shirt has glitter, sparkles, looks like a tribal tattoo; you need a new shirt! Hahhaha! I don't think if you're 50 you should dress 35. What does 35 dress like? Let's shoot for classic, nice jeans (no rips or tears because if you do you'll look like the dude from Aerosmith = Trying too hard) , a new clean pair of sneakers for casual chilling and a set of nice brown shoes if you like to get a bit dressy / workish, a nice golf / polo shirt, a new cool tee shirt.

3) Lord I don't know how this is not obvious to EVERYBODY, personal grooming is key. I'd like to add breath, have gum, mints, breath spray on hand.

4) Be funny and nice! Do not be cheap!

5) Get a clue. Or be as cool as you can be. I've been up in Parque Gringo and have seen some WEAK game being spit and the look in the girls eyes of "what is this loser gringo saying to me?", for example, This dude in a bar saying to a Chica: "Do you know who you look like, Sofia Lauren!" Now SL was one of the hottest girls EVER IMO but this 20? Year old Colombian chick would have 0% chance of knowing who that is! How is she supposed to understand the joke / complement? Another; I was on a double date with my buddy Joey in the states, he commented that he needed a hair cut and said that he would shave his head but didn't want to look like the singer form Midnight Oil. WHO? A 1 hit wonder form the 80s? Both the girls where BORN in the 80s! If you are to date a younger girl you have to be versed in some of the up to date stuff in popular culture.

6) Smile and Laugh! But don't laugh at your own jokes first! That's a sign of a lack of self confidence.

I'm sure I"m missing more of the foundation stuff but this is a good start for most of the clueless.

PolyOrchid
11-05-12, 03:40
Without a doubt there are only 2 countries, Colombia and Thailand with such great acceptance of young chica older guy.You have obviously never been to the Philippines. Mate, for my money, it is home to the most beautiful girls on the planet, and as a 65 year-old, I am always dating girls 18-25 if I like.

Now if they would only learn cooking from the Thais.

SlamCity7777
11-05-12, 12:17
You have obviously never been to the Philippines. Mate, for my money, it is home to the most beautiful girls on the planet, and as a 65 year-old, I am always dating girls 18-25 if I like.

Now if they would only learn cooking from the Thais.I have never been to PI but I have spend a lot of time in So-Cal and Hawaii and the hottest (there are a lot of hot chicks but the group that has the highest hit-a-bility ratio are Philipienas) are the local Philippienas. They also know what's up. The younger girl x older guy dynamic is not limited to foreign countries, it's just easier there. In the US you have to be a "sugar daddy" to have a trophy girl or arm candy. In other countries if you are not cheap and treat the girls nice that is enough! The thing girls like most is ATTENTION! Now if that comes in the form of money, affection, or drama it does not matter as long as they feel you are giving them the proper amount of attention.

Thais and Vietnam have awesome food; PI and Cambodia not so much!

Voyajer1
11-05-12, 12:36
Why do folk from Asian boards continue to talk about their women in a LATIN AMERICAN board? I have never posted on those boards because I consider the women to be not very femenine. They have virtually no shape. If you don't beleive me, look at the dog kennel that overwhelms the photo gallery everyday, if you paid for your membership. I don't criticize anyone for their lack of taste. However, when you come over here and dare to compare THAT to what we have here, I have to tell you to please, please, please, discuss that BS in the Asian boards. IMHO, your opinion is valid, but the women in asia are flat, flat, flat; latinas pride themselves in looking hyperfemenine, with curves in all the right places. No comparison except that the are women.


You have obviously never been to the Philippines. Mate, for my money, it is home to the most beautiful girls on the planet, and as a 65 year-old, I am always dating girls 18-25 if I like.

Now if they would only learn cooking from the Thais.

Bart1
11-05-12, 18:14
First let me say "Good For Us!" this recent subject matter did not devolve into a Young vs Old gringo flame battle. Signs of life!

I'm usually on the young side of the argument.

Let's focus on what is important in the last few posts.

Bart nailed some of the most obvious IMO:

1) Lose the gut=be the best you can be. NOBODY likes a fat slob! If you have a few extra LBS. Develop a funny and outgoing personality!

2) Dress nice, get a new shirt and not one with a huge design / pattern. If your best shirt has glitter, sparkles, looks like a tribal tattoo; you need a new shirt! Hahhaha! I don't think if you're 50 you should dress 35. What does 35 dress like? Let's shoot for classic, nice jeans (no rips or tears because if you do you'll look like the dude from Aerosmith = Trying too hard) , a new clean pair of sneakers for casual chilling and a set of nice brown shoes if you like to get a bit dressy / workish, a nice golf / polo shirt, a new cool tee shirt.

3) Lord I don't know how this is not obvious to EVERYBODY, personal grooming is key. I'd like to add breath, have gum, mints, breath spray on hand.

4) Be funny and nice! Do not be cheap!

5) Get a clue. Or be as cool as you can be. I've been up in Parque Gringo and have seen some WEAK game being spit and the look in the girls eyes of "what is this loser gringo saying to me?", for example, This dude in a bar saying to a Chica: "Do you know who you look like, Sofia Lauren!" Now SL was one of the hottest girls EVER IMO but this 20? Year old Colombian chick would have 0% chance of knowing who that is! How is she supposed to understand the joke / complement? Another; I was on a double date with my buddy Joey in the states, he commented that he needed a hair cut and said that he would shave his head but didn't want to look like the singer form Midnight Oil. WHO? A 1 hit wonder form the 80s? Both the girls where BORN in the 80s! If you are to date a younger girl you have to be versed in some of the up to date stuff in popular culture.

6) Smile and Laugh! But don't laugh at your own jokes first! That's a sign of a lack of self confidence.

I'm sure I"m missing more of the foundation stuff but this is a good start for most of the clueless.Hey Slamcity we both forgot to add "Speak some Spanish" on our lists. Its amazing just saying "you are very beautiful","I love your beautiful long hair"," I love your smile", will take you with a chica. Everybody loves compliments.

Ricker
11-05-12, 22:06
First let me say "Good For Us!" this recent subject matter did not devolve into a Young vs Old gringo flame battle. Signs of life!

I'm usually on the young side of the argument.

Let's focus on what is important in the last few posts.

Bart nailed some of the most obvious IMO:

1) Lose the gut=be the best you can be. NOBODY likes a fat slob! If you have a few extra LBS. Develop a funny and outgoing personality!

2) Dress nice, get a new shirt and not one with a huge design / pattern. If your best shirt has glitter, sparkles, looks like a tribal tattoo; you need a new shirt! Hahhaha! I don't think if you're 50 you should dress 35. What does 35 dress like? Let's shoot for classic, nice jeans (no rips or tears because if you do you'll look like the dude from Aerosmith = Trying too hard) , a new clean pair of sneakers for casual chilling and a set of nice brown shoes if you like to get a bit dressy / workish, a nice golf / polo shirt, a new cool tee shirt.

3) Lord I don't know how this is not obvious to EVERYBODY, personal grooming is key. I'd like to add breath, have gum, mints, breath spray on hand.

4) Be funny and nice! Do not be cheap!

5) Get a clue. Or be as cool as you can be. I've been up in Parque Gringo and have seen some WEAK game being spit and the look in the girls eyes of "what is this loser gringo saying to me?", for example, This dude in a bar saying to a Chica: "Do you know who you look like, Sofia Lauren!" Now SL was one of the hottest girls EVER IMO but this 20? Year old Colombian chick would have 0% chance of knowing who that is! How is she supposed to understand the joke / complement? Another; I was on a double date with my buddy Joey in the states, he commented that he needed a hair cut and said that he would shave his head but didn't want to look like the singer form Midnight Oil. WHO? A 1 hit wonder form the 80s? Both the girls where BORN in the 80s! If you are to date a younger girl you have to be versed in some of the up to date stuff in popular culture.

6) Smile and Laugh! But don't laugh at your own jokes first! That's a sign of a lack of self confidence.

I'm sure I"m missing more of the foundation stuff but this is a good start for most of the clueless.In other words Slam; don't be a dweeb hahaha.

Young, old, somewhere in the middle, whatever; it's all in the presentation.

Like you say; fun, cool, personality, sincere, nice, spanish, humor, clean, generous, etc.

These girls are sweet, most of them anyway. They want to like you; just don't be dweeb.

SlamCity7777
11-05-12, 23:01
Hey Slamcity we both forgot to add "Speak some Spanish" on our lists. Its amazing just saying "you are very beautiful","I love your beautiful long hair"," I love your smile", will take you with a chica. Everybody loves compliments.Hahaha. Yes! We both forgot Spanish language skills!

Spanish skills are a must and most girls speak 1% or less English.

This one time in a club I quoted Depeache Mode's "Enjoy the Silence"! I told her in spanish "You're all I ever needed, All I ever wanted, here in my arms!" she melted into a puddle of hot pussy juice and we couldn't wait to get back to my place. SERIOUS making out in the Taxi!

http://youtu.be/Qf6l2xBnE1Y

*FOR THE NEWBS. This is not the DR or Asia! There is no novelty for dating a gringo in Colombia any more. So if you don't speak Spanish and you want to date a "regular" girl than you'd better be tall, rich, and handsome like Tom Brady! Or pay the $50 and get a Rosetastone program!

Nino Bravo
11-06-12, 13:08
Hahaha. Yes! We both forgot Spanish language skills!

Spanish skills are a must and most girls speak 1% or less English.

This one time in a club I quoted Depeache Mode's "Enjoy the Silence"! I told her in spanish "You're all I ever needed, All I ever wanted, here in my arms!" she melted into a puddle of hot pussy juice and we couldn't wait to get back to my place. SERIOUS making out in the Taxi!

http://youtu.be/Qf6l2xBnE1Y

*FOR THE NEWBS. This is not the DR or Asia! There is no novelty for dating a gringo in Colombia any more. So if you don't speak Spanish and you want to date a "regular" girl than you'd better be tall, rich, and handsome like Tom Brady! Or pay the $50 and get a Rosetastone program!Forget Depeache Mode. If you REALLY want a Colombian woman to melt into pussy juice, learn the lyrics to Spanish songs, especially the old "baladas" or vallenato songs, or "salsa romantica", and if you can sing these lyrics a bit, even better. But this takes great spanish skills and a genuine love for the music.