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SlamCity7777
11-03-13, 00:13
Great report! I agree about the older more distinguished cab driver. A young boy tends to be more wild, more willing to "prove" himself. My two cents after 10+ hours of flying I don't mind the comfort of a private car / cab taking me right to my door. The idea of making another stop after those flighs scare me! I thought it was $60K for a cab; have prices risen recently?
Thanks again for the informative report.
The international airport is located about 45 minutes up into the mountains which that alone keeps the lowlife street scum away as opposed to what one may find in say Manila. I have always felt safe in all areas around the terminal. There is also a very strong narco-terrorist police presence. No one is likely to be screwing with you. These commuter buses into town are one of the main methods of transport. You will be riding next to typical middle class Colombiana. The fares are posted and no rip-off. Here are a few pictures from a previous trip of the bus you will look for. They seat about 18 and usually fill up and depart every 15 minutes. (these pics were 2010-fare is now 8, 000 cop not 6, 500)
There are two destinations these buses go to. If you are staying at the Mansion / Poblado you will want the bus that stops in district: SAN DIEGO All you need to do is ask the gentleman loading the bus: "Para en San Deigo?" and he will either nod yes or point you to the correct bus. Once I did get on the wrong bus and ended up somewhere near the Stadium I think. I just grabbed a taxi and took it to: "Poblado- cerca Mall Oviedo"
In San Diego district the bus will stop and a large % of the passengers will disembark. There will be about 8 taxis waiting to pick up people and take them to whatever destination they choose. Medellin taxis in general are just very honest. Here, however, is probably the most dangerous point in this transport process. There often are "helpers" trying to make a dollar carrying your bag to a taxi. I have never encountered anything like I did at the Manila bus terminal. Usually you can just say "no gracias" and they will not bother you. Then walk to the line of waiting taxis. Some common sense safety considerations:
1. No Bling jewelry. I wear a cheap watch with rubber wrist band and leave my good CITIZEN watch with gold band in my bag.
2. I do separate my money into 3-4 locations.
3. I take a careful look at the taxi driver just to get a 'feel' for his personality. I feel much better with an older gentleman than a young punk who speaks perfect English and calls me "friend"..
SirAssAlot
11-03-13, 03:59
Thanks for the detail. Much appreciated. May take that way now.
The international airport is located about 45 minutes up into the mountains which that alone keeps the lowlife street scum away as opposed to what one may find in say Manila. I have always felt safe in all areas around the terminal. There is also a very strong narco-terrorist police presence. No one is likely to be screwing with you. These commuter buses into town are one of the main methods of transport. You will be riding next to typical middle class Colombiana. The fares are posted and no rip-off. Here are a few pictures from a previous trip of the bus you will look for. They seat about 18 and usually fill up and depart every 15 minutes. (these pics were 2010-fare is now 8, 000 cop not 6, 500)
There are two destinations these buses go to. If you are staying at the Mansion / Poblado you will want the bus that stops in district: SAN DIEGO All you need to do is ask the gentleman loading the bus: "Para en San Deigo?" and he will either nod yes or point you to the correct bus. Once I did get on the wrong bus and ended up somewhere near the Stadium I think. I just grabbed a taxi and took it to: "Poblado- cerca Mall Oviedo"
In San Diego district the bus will stop and a large % of the passengers will disembark. There will be about 8 taxis waiting to pick up people and take them to whatever destination they choose. Medellin taxis in general are just very honest. Here, however, is probably the most dangerous point in this transport process. There often are "helpers" trying to make a dollar carrying your bag to a taxi. I have never encountered anything like I did at the Manila bus terminal. Usually you can just say "no gracias" and they will not bother you. ..
Just my opinion but I don't get why anyone who can afford rooms at the Mansion would go through the risk and hassle of carrying bags on a shared bus to save a $20 taxi fare.Educate me please- I see you are a Sr. Member with many posts-
I have never just taken one of the taxis outside the terminal. Is $20 the normal fare from Terminal to Poblado?
On my first few trips to Medellin I had the Mansion send up a private car to meet me, but I think that cost about $70 USD if I remember correctly. I know the Blue / White taxi rate for picking up at Mansion and dropping off at airport is 50, 000 COB ($26 USD). Maybe grabbing a cab waiting there is only $20?
Thanks for any info-
Taxi fare from the airport is $30 to $35 or so depending on exchange rate. It's a set fare. By $20 I meant the difference between bus and taxi fare.
Educate me please- I see you are a Sr. Member with many posts-
I have never just taken one of the taxis outside the terminal. Is $20 the normal fare from Terminal to Poblado?
On my first few trips to Medellin I had the Mansion send up a private car to meet me, but I think that cost about $70 USD if I remember correctly. I know the Blue / White taxi rate for picking up at Mansion and dropping off at airport is 50, 000 COB ($26 USD). Maybe grabbing a cab waiting there is only $20?
Thanks for any info-
SavePros321
11-03-13, 04:51
My two cents after 10+ hours of flying I don't mind the comfort of a private car / cab taking me right to my door. The idea of making another stop after those flighs scare me! I thought it was $60K for a cab; have prices risen recently?I've only ever paid 72,000 pesos for my private car. And like you, I do not mind paying for this convenience considering my driver is waiting for me once my flight arrives, and I can go from the airport straight to my apartment. Plus the driver is someone that my people (who arranged the taxi pickup for me) knows; not just some random taxi driver.
Just my opinion but I don't get why anyone who can afford rooms at the Mansion would go through the risk and hassle of carrying bags on a shared bus to save a $20 taxi fare.
I was thinking the exact same thing. After paying $800+ for my flight and $300+ for my apartment stay, the last thing I am thinking about is compromising my safety haggling over $38-$40 bucks for a taxi.
Gentlemen,
Today is the last day for some of us, like to end the trip in a blast.
We are organizing a Halloween party in Liquid, party starts at 9:00 PM today (Saturday, Nov 1st ).
You mean Saturday Nov 2nd ;)
Spread the word and let us make this a blast, about 30 girls are expected.Yes, and LIQUID is having an Oil Wrestling Contest with the customers judging which Chica was the sexiest fighter. Wish I could be there, but I'm in the States now.
Vegas Jeff
11-03-13, 10:29
Educate me please- I see you are a Sr. Member with many posts-
I have never just taken one of the taxis outside the terminal. Is $20 the normal fare from Terminal to Poblado?
On my first few trips to Medellin I had the Mansion send up a private car to meet me, but I think that cost about $70 USD if I remember correctly. I know the Blue / White taxi rate for picking up at Mansion and dropping off at airport is 50, 000 COB ($26 USD). Maybe grabbing a cab waiting there is only $20?
Thanks for any info-Airport taxi cost to and from El Poblado is 60k. You can arrange for taxi pickup from hotels, The Mansion, etc from between 70k-80k. 5k propina is sufficient.
I would pay the 70k-80k if it were my first trip. On repeat trips you can grab a taxi off the curb on arrival. For airport return you can call for one 15 minutes before you are ready to leave.
I know every hotel increases prices for the flower festival and Colombia moda. Obviously these are popular days.
However is the talent better during these times? Or are he prices better just because of the events themselves?
I am trying to just figure out if there are more choices for us if we travel there during these times.
Thank you.
I know every hotel increases prices for the flower festival and Colombia moda. Obviously these are popular days.
However is the talent better during these times? Or are he prices better just because of the events themselves?
I am trying to just figure out if there are more choices for us if we travel there during these times.
Thank you.I would say the talent is less during Colombian holidays. A lot like to go on vacation with their families to the fincas.
Just my opinion but I don't get why anyone who can afford rooms at the Mansion would go through the risk and hassle of carrying bags on a shared bus to save a $20 taxi fare.What TroyBoy said was very nicely said. Who's to judge why people do the things they do? Everybody rolls a different way. I know guys that stay at the Mansion yet only do casa girls. I know guys that spend a lot of money on girls yet eats like shit. I know guys that likes to stay in 5 star hotels yet like to go to casas only. Etc etc. All we can do has helpful members is share our experiences and let them do what they want to do.
In my opinion, taxis are pretty safe in Medellin. Just make sure they are yellow and have meters. If you have never been to the Mansion before, you might want to get someone to pick you up the first time. It can be a bit hard to find. After that, you should be able to get any taxi to take you there. BTW, my first trip to Medellin, I stayed at the Mansion. I took the bus to Centro and then cabbed it from there. Very useful tips from members here and other places.
Just my opinion but I don't get why anyone who can afford rooms at the Mansion would go through the risk and hassle of carrying bags on a shared bus to save a $20 taxi fare.Done this at least 20 times, no risk, no hassle, another upside is you might meet someone interesting on the ride down the hill!
Well-said!
What TroyBoy said was very nicely said. Who's to judge why people do the things they do? Everybody rolls a different way. I know guys that stay at the Mansion yet only do casa girls. I know guys that spend a lot of money on girls yet eats like shit. I know guys that likes to stay in 5 star hotels yet like to go to casas only. Etc etc. All we can do has helpful members is share our experiences and let them do what they want to do.
In my opinion, taxis are pretty safe in Medellin. Just make sure they are yellow and have meters. If you have never been to the Mansion before, you might want to get someone to pick you up the first time. It can be a bit hard to find. After that, you should be able to get any taxi to take you there. BTW, my first trip to Medellin, I stayed at the Mansion. I took the bus to Centro and then cabbed it from there. Very useful tips from members here and other places.
SlamCity7777
11-05-13, 07:22
Done this at least 20 times, no risk, no hassle, another upside is you might meet someone interesting on the ride down the hill!I agree with and love you attitude about the bus. You know who takes the bus home from Rio Negro? A poor college student form Bogota who needs some help.
I disagree with the Taxi vs Bus thing. I have to say it's the door to door that I like. No me gusta making extra stops even if its 10 min! I want to take my shoes off, take a shit, a shower, and get a girl on top of me ASAP. Or below me if fine too.
Surf Looker
11-06-13, 03:58
For those who have traveled to both places.
Travels to San Jose is fairly simple.
1. Fly into San Jose, go to upper level of airport, departures and get cheaper taxi to Hotel Del Rey.
2. Hang out in Del Rey or take taxi to Mona Lisa.
3. Girls from anywhere $50-$80 for hour or TLN.
4. Arrange taxi to go back to airport.
Pretty simple and safe. As long as you stay in the hotel, don't wander off at night. And arrange day trips with reputable travel agencies to check out Arenal and other places.
Question. Is that simple to do the same in Medellin. Is that safe and same prices? Are there known spots like Del Rey and Mona Lisa in Medellin.
For those who have traveled to both places.
Travels to San Jose is fairly simple.
1. Fly into San Jose, go to upper level of airport, departures and get cheaper taxi to Hotel Del Rey. Similar.
2. Hang out in Del Rey or take taxi to Mona Lisa. Maybe liquid lounge.
3. Girls from anywhere $50-$80 for hour or TLN. Can be cheaper or more expensive.
4. Arrange taxi to go back to airport. Easy.
Pretty simple and safe. As long as you stay in the hotel, don't wander off at night. And arrange day trips with reputable travel agencies to check out Arenal and other places.
Question. Is that simple to do the same in Medellin. Is that safe and same prices? Are there known spots like Del Rey and Mona Lisa in Medellin.Yes, it is that simple and safe to do the same thing in Medellin, There is no Del Rey in Medellin, The single biggest obstacle is very few people speak English, if you fall into that category stay at http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/ Or http://www.colombiajake.com/
For those who have traveled to both places.It would be like doing the strip clubs and New Fantasy type casas in San Jose. Most guys that go to San Jose probably don't do the strip clubs there. There is a place similar to a Hotel Little Havana/Sportsman Lodge type set-up with chicas on the premises that was mentioned below by TweedleD.
Help guys,
I am taking trip to Medellin and I am here in the plane an I just realized I forgot my box of latex free skyn condoms at home. I am allergic to latex and I have always had difficulty finding latex free condoms in other countries. If you guys can te me of a pharmacy chain or store in Medellin that might wcarry lamb skin condoms or at least non latex condoms (skyn preferable because they are very comfortable).
Thanks a lot!
http://www.angelesinfieles.com/co/prepagos_medellin.htm
Somebody tried to sell us this dishonest agency and I believed it.
First of all the 100% real pics guaranty is all BS, second they are very greedy and coning.
I asked for Sara, and I specified that would be embarrassing to send her back, and the guy told me they are most serious agency and they never lie.
Well I didn't even negotiate their overpriced free, I just wanted the girl I picked.
But the girl left me waiting for almost 2 hours, never called canceling or apologizing, not her or the agency, when I called they said they never knew. What tha heck, supposedly girls have to report themselves to the agency as soon as they arrive, so they knew she never made it, so they couldn't find the girl and they said they would make it to me, sending another girl for less price, the one available wasn't of my taste and I asked for Carla, (by the way both girls I picked were bloond green eyes NO fake parts) and they said she was available right now, but her price was 200k, I complained because I told them that they waited my time and no I barely had 30 minuts left, but she promised they girl was the best and she looks just like the pics, I was very upset but gave them a try. Girl arrived prontly BUt she wasn't Carla, absolutely NOThiNG to resemble the slim natural blond on the pictures, absolutely NOTHing, and then she told me her fee was 300k, whattt? I got super pissed but the girl calmed me down and agency agreed 30 minutes for 200k. At this point I knew the agency DOn't give a sht about the clients, they only care about your walet, and they want your money no matter what if you are OK or not. Service was good girl was super nice, but my mood was the worst because the scam I was in to, I know this happens but these people claim themselves to be honest and super professional. Just stay away form them if you don't want your liver to explode.
The girls they sent me was actualy Shanon and also she is Alexa, different profiles, different prices, different pictures, same girl, so looks that she is one of the girls that they cover for all their mistakes and they use her at please, Prices are very high as you see and quality is just average, you can find this in the casas easily for less than half of price, You know guys I'm very honest and if I tell you this is a tourist trap is because I just proved.
People use condoms in Medellin?
Help guys,
I am taking trip to Medellin and I am here in the plane an I just realized I forgot my box of latex free skyn condoms at home. I am allergic to latex and I have always had difficulty finding latex free condoms in other countries. If you guys can te me of a pharmacy chain or store in Medellin that might wcarry lamb skin condoms or at least non latex condoms (skyn preferable because they are very comfortable).
Thanks a lot!
BlancoVikingo
11-07-13, 06:19
Maybe the big sexshop on Avenida 70 can inform you.
Help guys,
I am taking trip to Medellin and I am here in the plane an I just realized I forgot my box of latex free skyn condoms at home. I am allergic to latex and I have always had difficulty finding latex free condoms in other countries. If you guys can te me of a pharmacy chain or store in Medellin that might wcarry lamb skin condoms or at least non latex condoms (skyn preferable because they are very comfortable).
Thanks a lot!
Member #4244
11-07-13, 15:14
Broke up with my chick so I have been dilly dallying a bit more in the p4p scene.
I have noticed there is TONS of turnover at the MPs. New Life, Aiffe and all the ones in that area. Aiffe lost what were clearly the two hottest girls there, still some OK talent. New Life is just a parade of busted bitches, they are going for quantity or something. They stay busy though, often I have walked out of a full waiting area. Make your decision fast if you're going to make it. I have also noticed that some of the cheaper looking places are easier to negotiate extras but I am not so sure anybody should be going bareback with these MP girls who will get run through all day every day. At Aiffe there is a girl with a little pudge but the most incredible breasts that I'd like to try out. Natalia is an older (maybe 30) black chick at New Life. Great head game, really can suck a dick. Her pussy is nice but definitely has seen better days like most MP girls over 25. She will do anal but I didn't partake.
Also went to F2. I went with a 19-year-old with nice perky C cups, deliciously thick thighs, a round booty and a slim waist. I don't know what she calls herself there but her name is Leidy, often has kind of a reddish tint to her hair. She was a bit nervous during the session but she was really beautiful plus nice and tight in both holes. I would repeat perhaps, similar service to the blonde there (again I always forget what they call themselves, name is Diana Catalina) and of course Julieta aka Carolina is still sexy as fuck even though I have not sessioned with her in a couple months.
SW action is hit and miss but there are some decent ones out there. Have found three gems on this trip that way, sifted through a lot of empty corners and junk in the process though plus I saw a dude get jacked by four guys on motorbikes. If you like them 18 and a day, I can refer you to a couple by phone.
There are a couple good incall recs I can shoot you, too, a gorgeous black girl from Buenaventura (200-300 for sort of short time. 400-500 TLN) who was at San Diego before. Take your vitamins, she is pretty demanding LOL. I also want to get ahold of Paracite's friend Valentina but she has been sorta busy and so have I.
Cheers boys, enjoy Medellin.
Member #4244
11-07-13, 17:10
SJ vs MDE, well, if you are looking for convenience I would say stay in San Jose. Everything there is kind of on a circuit, it's built to cater more to English speakers / Americans, etc.
Medellin requires Spanish IMO. I don't understand the guys that come down here and don't speak a word. I would be very bored. I am this way when I travel for non-mongering purposes though, if the place doesn't have a good number of English, Spanish or French speakers, then I am a little skeptical how much I will enjoy the vacation.
It's also more spread out than San Jose. It's not a huge city, but it's bigger and it's definitely got more going on in more places. Staying at The Mansion or somewhere like that is OK but you pay a premium, have a limited selection and get stuck in one very touristy area of the city. I think you are short-changing yourself doing that, unless you're just coming for a few days to nothing but fuck and money is not much of an issue.
Pricing is better in MDE, I think, MPs for $10-$20 you can score much better girls than in SJO. Nightime action is maybe better in CR for actual places to monger, but you can do way more, all day, all night, every day, every night in MDE. You can also find "semi pros" (read: prepagos outside a designated place of business) more easily. Again Spanish is key for getting the most out of it. Much more and better TLN action, from $50 USD to $200 USD basically, maybe $250. It's also more common.
I think the level of service is much better in MDE. Outside of some sweet Nicaraguan girls and a few average looking Ticas, I found the service in SJO to be a crap shoot. The Colombians there are just pushing for money and often working for someone else. But in Colombia the independent ones are awesome. There isn't the selection of nationalities here-you're lucky to find a Venezuelan if anything-whereas in SJO there are Ticas, Nicas, Colombianas, Dominicanas and the occasional Cuban, I suppose. I find Colombians to be by far the most attractive of the group. There are gorgeous Ticas, but they are seldom working girls.
Surf Looker
11-07-13, 18:20
Wilt,
Thanks for the info.
I am thinking of sticking to SJO. I do not speak spanish.
Also. Safety is a concern for me. I felt very safe in SJO.
Also, if you come just for mongering. You can stay at Hotel Del Rey or go to Mona Lisa and have a large selection.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I heard Medellin has more strip clubs than places like Del Rey or Mona Lisa where there are working girls who will go back to your hotel.
In terms of price. At Del Rey you can can get a girl for an hour from anywhere $50-$80.
Depending on the time. TLN can cost maybe $80-150 in SJO at Del Rey or Mona Lisa?
SJ vs MDE, well, if you are looking for convenience I would say stay in San Jose. Everything there is kind of on a circuit, it's built to cater more to English speakers / Americans, etc.
Medellin requires Spanish IMO. I don't understand the guys that come down here and don't speak a word. I would be very bored. I am this way when I travel for non-mongering purposes though, if the place doesn't have a good number of English, Spanish or French speakers, then I am a little skeptical how much I will enjoy the vacation.
It's also more spread out than San Jose. It's not a huge city, but it's bigger and it's definitely got more going on in more places. Staying at The Mansion or somewhere like that is OK but you pay a premium, have a limited selection and get stuck in one very touristy area of the city. I think you are short-changing yourself doing that, unless you're just coming for a few days to nothing but fuck and money is not much of an issue.
Pricing is better in MDE, I think, MPs for $10-$20 you can score much better girls than in SJO. Nightime action is maybe better in CR for actual places to monger, but you can do way more, all day, all night, every day, every night in MDE. You can also find "semi pros" (read: prepagos outside a designated place of business) more easily. Again Spanish is key for getting the most out of it. Much more and better TLN action, from $50 USD to $200 USD basically, maybe $250. It's also more common.
I think the level of service is much better in MDE. Outside of some sweet Nicaraguan girls and a few average looking Ticas, I found the service in SJO to be a crap shoot. The Colombians there are just pushing for money and often working for someone else. But in Colombia the independent ones are awesome. There isn't the selection of nationalities here-you're lucky to find a Venezuelan if anything-whereas in SJO there are Ticas, Nicas, Colombianas, Dominicanas and the occasional Cuban, I suppose. I find Colombians to be by far the most attractive of the group. There are gorgeous Ticas, but they are seldom working girls.
Member #4244
11-07-13, 20:10
Aiffe update, went today and the talent is getting pretty thin, place is losing its identity of having you fresh flacas. Luna left, long story, won't be back. Sofia got booted over some theft incident. The other real cute one with the incredible tits hasn't been there four times in a row. I did take one today, Jesica, not bad but mechanical. The other girls there are just average, I guess they would turn you on if they fit your type or you were especially horny.
Overall I am seeing a lot of turnover and talent thinning out with the MPs right now as I mentioned.
Member #4244
11-07-13, 20:15
Wilt,
Thanks for the info.
I am thinking of sticking to SJO. I do not speak spanish.
Also. Safety is a concern for me. I felt very safe in SJO.
Also, if you come just for mongering. You can stay at Hotel Del Rey or go to Mona Lisa and have a large selection.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I heard Medellin has more strip clubs than places like Del Rey or Mona Lisa where there are working girls who will go back to your hotel.
In terms of price. At Del Rey you can can get a girl for an hour from anywhere $50-$80.
Depending on the time. TLN can cost maybe $80-150 in SJO at Del Rey or Mona Lisa?$80 for TLN in Costa Rica? I mean it is manageable (I had a Panamian chick TLN for a $20 bag of white stuff LOL) but I have never seen a girl accept that at Del Rey or Key Largo. Just think about it, in the same breath you said short time 50-80. Even $150 seems low, especially for the hotter girls. I'd say you're looking more like $200-$400, MDE more like $50-250.
MDE does have strip clubs at night. They vary in price. Low end is $20 short time, high end $235 TLN. There are many, yes, and they are spread out. There are a lot more options in MDE.
Safety concerns I think are overstated in MDE but sure you have to watch yourself. Whatever, I saw six trannies beat the fuck out of a guy and rob him in San Jose, too, walking from Del Rey back toward Cafe Mundo. Just be smart and keep your feet moving, that's good advice anywhere.
Wilt,
Thanks for the info.
I am thinking of sticking to SJO. I do not speak spanish.
Also. Safety is a concern for me. I felt very safe in SJO.
Also, if you come just for mongering. You can stay at Hotel Del Rey or go to Mona Lisa and have a large selection.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I heard Medellin has more strip clubs than places like Del Rey or Mona Lisa where there are working girls who will go back to your hotel.
In terms of price. At Del Rey you can can get a girl for an hour from anywhere $50-$80.
Depending on the time. TLN can cost maybe $80-150 in SJO at Del Rey or Mona Lisa?The really big factor is many Paisas are stunningly beautiful, where your average tica is only slightly better looking than an innercity crack ho
Wilt,
Thanks for the info.
I am thinking of sticking to SJO. I do not speak spanish.
Also. Safety is a concern for me. I felt very safe in SJO.
Also, if you come just for mongering. You can stay at Hotel Del Rey or go to Mona Lisa and have a large selection.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I heard Medellin has more strip clubs than places like Del Rey or Mona Lisa where there are working girls who will go back to your hotel.
In terms of price. At Del Rey you can can get a girl for an hour from anywhere $50-$80.
Depending on the time. TLN can cost maybe $80-150 in SJO at Del Rey or Mona Lisa?Just stick w / CR if you enjoy the action there. Medellin is not all that great and you better know espanol there otherwise you're fucked. Enjoy CR!
The Dirty Pirate
11-08-13, 18:36
The really big factor is many Paisas are stunningly beautiful, where your average tica is only slightly better looking than an innercity crack hoYou must know some pretty good looking crack hoes.
Surf Looker
11-08-13, 19:31
The idea of passing up women who look like Esperanza Gomez and spending a night with her for $200. Very tempting.
So are all the working girls in strip clubs and then you take them back to your hotel.
No well known place in safe area in Medellin that are like Del Rey?
Just stick w / CR if you enjoy the action there. Medellin is not all that great and you better know espanol there otherwise you're fucked. Enjoy CR!
The idea of passing up women who look like Esperanza Gomez and spending a night with her for $200. Very tempting.
So are all the working girls in strip clubs and then you take them back to your hotel.
No well known place in safe area in Medellin that are like Del Rey?Go to Medellin, stay at the Mansion, visit Liquid Lounge, Face Dos, la Isla, etc.
You'll be safe and happy and maybe never go back to SJO.
On subsequent visits you can stay elsewhere, other than the Mansion, or you may find that you enjoy it there.
Relax and have fun.
The idea of passing up women who look like Esperanza Gomez and spending a night with her for $200. Very tempting.
So are all the working girls in strip clubs and then you take them back to your hotel.
No well known place in safe area in Medellin that are like Del Rey?Have never been to CR but from what I read lately it sounds like a good mongering destination. If you are familiar w / the place or want to improve on what you already know stick w / CR.
As for Medellin it is not a good monger hotel destination, they're either too funky or too high end and not GF. The hotels in La Mayorista are cheap, clean and very small, also very isolated.
The only strip clubs I've been to are in El Centro and most chicas there are plump, some nice lookers but plump. You can probably get TLN for around 1 or 2 bills.
I did go to San Diego strip club and was not impressed. Las America was my favorite strip club, w / huge porno vids running all night, a freaking down and dirty place. Apparently too much so because it is closed now.
Some guys like the mansion and some guys don't. I get the feeling you are not a mansion type guy. Good luck w / whatever you do.
BlancoVikingo
11-09-13, 00:57
Anyone been in Titiribi, a small town, but not so touristic as Santa Fe de Antioquia or Guatape, maybe a good spot to longterm-term rent a small house or apartment, which access to a pool (and river).
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titiribi (Titiribí)
Is 1500 meter above sea level, the same as Medellin, but also with an area "El Tambo. Area green with a temperature of 28 degrees Celsius and 600 meters Ideal for fishing or sports area lunch picnics".
With fewer tourists than the other exotic places around MDE one maybe can live a life in tranquility, without paying tourist prices.
I liked Marinilla very much, but the higher altitude makes it colder and more rainy than MDE.
Guapate is awesome, but I don't play in that field of incomes that are needed for long-term / permanent living.
BlancoVikingo
11-09-13, 01:08
Those barrios are close to a huge Stadium, malls, supermarkets, close to Laureles, La 70, with all kind of restaurants and prepagos in apartments in a safe area. Estadio / Suramericana also comunication centre, close to buses, taxis, metro, close, to Centro, Laureles. But prices are on some services are only 1/2 of those in Poblado. There are many hotels, hostels and apartmenthotels from 30-100 k COP / night. Also many nice motels, where you can bring a girl, on Avenida Colombia / 50.
Have never been to CR but from what I read lately it sounds like a good mongering destination. If you are familiar w / the place or want to improve on what you already know stick w / CR.
As for Medellin it is not a good monger hotel destination, they're either too funky or too high end and not GF. The hotels in La Mayorista are cheap, clean and very small, also very isolated.
The only strip clubs I've been to are in El Centro and most chicas there are plump, some nice lookers but plump. You can probably get TLN for around 1 or 2 bills.
I did go to San Diego strip club and was not impressed. Las America was my favorite strip club, w / huge porno vids running all night, a freaking down and dirty place. Apparently too much so because it is closed now.
Some guys like the mansion and some guys don't. I get the feeling you are not a mansion type guy. Good luck w / whatever you do.
Decided to check out the place last night, Friday nov. 08. I arrived 9:15pm, total persons 3, barmaid, chica and me. I asked the barmaid what time people showed up on a Friday and she said 10pm, I asked the chica and she said 11pm. I had one beer 7k and left at 9:35 so the new total was now 2 persons when I left. So suggest if you plan to visit don't go at 930pm. Headed back to el centro where my 2 favorite places with dancers are packed at 6pm on a Friday and were rocking as usual at 10pm when I returned, and no other gringos in sight and those Colombianos taking all the plump ones and leaving all those flaquitas for me. My god I love Colombia.
Member #4394
11-09-13, 19:55
You can see some of those girls at Mayorista.
Decided to check out the place last night, Friday nov. 08. I arrived 9:15pm, total persons 3, barmaid, chica and me. I asked the barmaid what time people showed up on a Friday and she said 10pm, I asked the chica and she said 11pm. I had one beer 7k and left at 9:35 so the new total was now 2 persons when I left. So suggest if you plan to visit don't go at 930pm. .
You can see some of those girls at Mayorista.I sure miss the old mayo, it is just not the same with the 'no tables on the sidewalk law'. I was out there about a month ago, just after my novia of nearly 2 years dumped me for a colombiano about 30 or more years younger than me. I am doing better now though, I have quit crying in my beer the past 2 weeks and not taking shots of guaro along with my coffee in the morning. Thank god they keep making more of those 23 year olds to ease my pain.
Member #4244
11-09-13, 22:37
Yeah Bart I have had your same experience, few gringos in the centro strip joints although the quality is hit and miss. They keep getting knocked for their best dancers by bigger clubs.
Liquid Lounge is just a hot mess if you ask me. Never once have I gone there and enjoyed myself. There is like a narrow window between 1030 and 130 where there are actually girls. It's not a sports bar, it's not a comfortable lounge, it's not a strip club. But in a way it's a little bit of all those things. Not my scene, sorry, have to agree with you on that.
I never really enjoyed the Mayo. I stayed there four or five years ago at Frank's place. Whew, what a dump of an apartment and what a dumb of a neighborhood. The sessions I had there were dull and rushed, the girls really get run through there, too. Not my scene either lol.
PolandSpring1
11-10-13, 00:36
What are your two places in el centro that's good at 6pm? Do tell.
Decided to check out the place last night, Friday nov. 08. I arrived 9:15pm, total persons 3, barmaid, chica and me. I asked the barmaid what time people showed up on a Friday and she said 10pm, I asked the chica and she said 11pm. I had one beer 7k and left at 9:35 so the new total was now 2 persons when I left. So suggest if you plan to visit don't go at 930pm. Headed back to el centro where my 2 favorite places with dancers are packed at 6pm on a Friday and were rocking as usual at 10pm when I returned, and no other gringos in sight and those Colombianos taking all the plump ones and leaving all those flaquitas for me. My god I love Colombia.
Decided to check out the place last night, Friday nov. 08. I arrived 9:15pm, total persons 3, barmaid, chica and me. I asked the barmaid what time people showed up on a Friday and she said 10pm, I asked the chica and she said 11pm. I had one beer 7k and left at 9:35 so the new total was now 2 persons when I left. So suggest if you plan to visit don't go at .Sorry your timing was off. I just talked to my manager Larry, and we ended up having a terrific night on Friday. We are the same as Fase Dos, San Diego, Luna Luneras. Things do not get going until around 11pm. I personally don't like it, but it's the nature of things here. The guys don't start showing up until late so the Chicas do the same. We are trying to get the parties started earlier, but it's going to take some time. We just rented a special apartment for our new "out of town" girls, and we have 2 starting in a couple of weeks from Pereira. In time we will have 4 or 5 out of town girls that will be exclusive to Liquid, so of course they will be there earlier. Hopefully, that will prompt the Gringos to start showing up earlier.
Yeah Bart I have had your same experience, few gringos in the centro strip joints although the quality is hit and miss. They keep getting knocked for their best dancers by bigger clubs.
Liquid Lounge is just a hot mess if you ask me. Never once have I gone there and enjoyed myself. There is like a narrow window between 1030 and 130 where there are actually girls. It's not a sports bar, it's not a comfortable lounge, it's not a strip club. But in a way it's a little bit of all those things. Not my scene, sorry, have to agree with you on that.
I never really enjoyed the Mayo. I stayed there four or five years ago at Frank's place. Whew, what a dump of an apartment and what a dumb of a neighborhood. The sessions I had there were dull and rushed, the girls really get run through there, too. Not my scene either LOL.Sorry you haven't enjoyed yourself. Most people do though. It is certainly true that we haven't found our exact niche, but it's a lot of fun trying different things, and we are close to developing our exact biz model. Getting the strip club license has caused us to change things around, but of course it's a great thing. We also made a change of management, but the important thing is that we are now self supporting which means we can stay open indefinitely and work to get things exactly the way we want without having to throw money at it. We have a crew of non Mansion chicas which have made Liquid home, and our apartment for out of town chicas is now rented. As soon as it's furnished, we will bring our first girls from out of town, and in time will have 3 or 4 more.
We are starting the strip club remodel next week which will feature a 2 story strip pole and a new stage in front of the 120" projector screen. There are many other improvement coming, so I urge you to give us another chance, and offer suggestions if there's something you think we could do better.
I just sent out the newsletter with pictures of our first Lesbian show. I have big plans for improving that show, that I know is going to be very popular. Anybody interested in being on the newsletter email, just go to Liquidloungemedellin on facebook and signup for it.
Member #4244
11-10-13, 23:44
Sorry you haven't enjoyed yourself. Most people do though. It is certainly true that we haven't found our exact niche, but it's a lot of fun trying different things, and we are close to developing our exact biz model. Getting the strip club license has caused us to change things around, but of course it's a great thing. We also made a change of management, but the important thing is that we are now self supporting which means we can stay open indefinitely and work to get things exactly the way we want without having to throw money at it. We have a crew of non Mansion chicas which have made Liquid home, and our apartment for out of town chicas is now rented. As soon as it's furnished, we will bring our first girls from out of town, and in time will have 3 or 4 more.
We are starting the strip club remodel next week which will feature a 2 story strip pole and a new stage in front of the 120" projector screen. There are many other improvement coming, so I urge you to give us another chance, and offer suggestions if there's something you think we could do better.
I just sent out the newsletter with pictures of our first Lesbian show. I have big plans for improving that show, that I know is going to be very popular. Anybody interested in being on the newsletter email, just go to Liquidloungemedellin on facebook and signup for it.Sounds great. I will say however that if you are making this many changes, then we probably agree that they needed to be made. Best of luck with the transition, I look forward to checking it out again sometime in the future.
Sounds great. I will say however that if you are making this many changes, then we probably agree that they needed to be made. Best of luck with the transition, I look forward to checking it out again sometime in the future.Certainly, but that's the nature of a new place like this, and even though we are making changes, most people are thoroughly enjoying themselves the way things are now. The biggest problem is timing. I have walked in many times disheartened to see it dead, only to see the place utterly transformed in an hour.
Here's the signup form. http://eepurl.com/FilGL
And here's the link to my last newsletter.
http://eepurl.com/HH9Kn
SlamCity7777
11-11-13, 05:50
Certainly, but that's the nature of a new place like this, and even though we are making changes, most people are thoroughly enjoying themselves the way things are now. The biggest problem is timing. I have walked in many times disheartened to see it dead, only to see the place utterly transformed in an hour.
Here's the signup form.
http://eepurl.com/FilGL
And here's the link to my last newsletter.
http://eepurl.com/HH9KnFirst let me say that I wish this business all the success possible. Not to dog pile on but clearly the ownership group got a "hard on" for the project and failed develop the actual business plan, concept, and identify of LL.
Everybody hires builders and workers but they think consultants are unnecessarily. Any consultant would have said the same thing. Pick one, are you a night club / lounge or a sports bar chill spot? Dive bar or Gastro Pub? High end or low end? Strip club or working girl house? You can't be both and when you try to be all things to all people you end up failing at everything. Come watch football, come chill, come to the oil wrestling, come, come, come. Reeks of desperation.
The "Gringos" only or exclusive plan was a bad idea from the start. All cops bad! Horrible in fact. I imagine the 4 owners (or how many there are) sitting around a table, all "Bro! This is going to be awesome! And we'll only let in Gringos like us no broke ass local Colombians who slow slip one beer" and in general just stroking their collective egos. How that rule of thumb or policy ever got past the first. 05 seconds is beyond me. Some locals Colombians DO have money, and once again I'll say this "Locals and regulars keep the lights on and water flowing. The tourists and their short time money buy you the BMW"
I applaud the fact that the decision makers are addressing their failures and shot comings but this might NOT be a good thing. Once again we back to consultants and talking to good people vs just the people cutting the checks and footing the bill. Just because you have a Strip club license does not make you a strip club! A good strip club and ALL successful businesses have good flow, a positive vibe, good layout, Fung Shui. From the pictures it looks like all the seats are on the sides of the "stage" and not right in front. That means to see the girls dancing you have to crank your neck 90* to the left or right. How long you going to tolerate this before you bounce? Would you come back to a place like this? It was not built as a strip club, not designed originally as a strip club so the place needs to remodeled as as SC.
So now LL is a strip club with a crap layout. Revenue? Either you tax the girls, the customers, or the bar. Or if you're lucky all 3. You going to get "Champagne Room" by CR I mean on site fucking or is that a different license? Will it become what I believe the owners wanted from the beginning a free lance bar? With so many guys asking about this club in Rio, this club in CR, this club in DR. Why not just lift their business model and tweak it to the Medellin / Colombian Market? Business Cliche: Keep it simple stupid! When it came to working girls the free lance bar was / is the one huge hole in the Monger scene in Colombia no?
15+ Years of Restaurant and Hotel experience under my belt (granted as a worker bee and low level management) The owner ship group might want to consider a Full re brand! Like change the name to pLace. Small P large L. (it's from Family Guy!)
My tips for the new strip club. I'd hire a crew of dancers that are available but mostly dance as eye candy, not just tits and ass, they are part of the vibe! I'd get a girl to work as a "Judas Cow" go down to where ever you see them barrio chicks and snipe the pretty ones from the shitty clubs and be like a talent scout. To get those girls (you need to get a par sheet, how many girls should we have? You don't want too many but mos def yo udon't want too few. Got to do the homework) I'd get a bus driver or a large van. And be hey girls you see this Chiva? Well you can make more money working at Liquid Lounge (or pLace) AND we'll give you a free ride to work! You'll save $15-$20K COP in Taxis by just working for us! Clearly have a central spot or three. AND I'd offer them a "pre shift meal" That way you can lay down the law and rules before the action starts. A fee ride and a free meal? Colombians LOVE FREE SHIT! FACT! Hahahah! If you get the girls the dudes will come.
Then you tax the girls. Maybe not an upfront charge but have a time min if they getting a ride in and a free meal. Then if they get a date you tax them.
In town now. 2 days in. Checked out a couple clubs in centro yesterday, Ejecutivo and Macaibo. Talent is so / so. But I have different preferences, either big curves (not fat) or beautiful face, or both preferably. I don't like the average looking thin girls. Some girls want a ridiculous price for take out, but you can talk them down if you speak Spanish. In my experience a lot of them said they were working till the club closes at 3:30 and don't want to leave for hotel unless you pay $$. The two I wanted to take back for $150 for 2 horas (plus 70k takeout) , both insisted that I pay them before the service. Not something I recommend doing. They did have 70k for 30min at the actual place, but I wasn't looking for that last night. Most colombian men are there in groups at the tables so it can get a bit awkward at times sitting there by yourself. Note, you approach the girls yourself. The ones that approach you will tend to be hustlers / ugly. Unfortunately the ones I approached had the pay in advance gig for take out, meaning on the spot at the club, which was not happening. Girls tax after every dance, whether you pay attention to them or not. Highlight of the night was meeting a hot young morena that looks like Kim Kardashian. I told her that, and she had no idea who KD was. This is the one who wanted $200US per hour which changed to $200k or so for two hours. She agreed to hang out outside the club and gave her number after I danced with her for a bit. Interesting thing about her was that she was giving me kisses on the lips throughout and had the right personality. Think I'll call her tomorrow.
On a side note, I play blackjack and went a couple big casinos yesterday (Saturday) which were mostly empty of women. If you like casinos, nothing beats the Veneto in Panama.
I apologize for the long rant. I've been to a two casas, New Life, and Dulce and in one talent was limited in number and quality and the other had excellent girls who readily gave their numbers and want to chill who gave excellent sessions, however, I would prefer prettier / younger girls. So, can anyone recommend a casa that I should check out? Aife? Coffee Shop? Something else?
Or perhaps other centro clubs? If anyone is planning a trip to centro, count me in.
Centro clubs close around 2. Most will be willing to leave with you around 1:30 (without multa. No takeout fee. If they insist, offer a 20k tip and most will agree!). They were asking way too much because they see you as a gringo. ST can be had for 100-120k. TLN 150-200k. Some more. Some less. If they talk in dollars always say. Did you mean pesos. BTW, if you insist on paying a higher rate than normal. Always session on site to get a feel for her service and see if she is worth it! Never pay in advance. Compromise is to lay the money on the nightstand.
Have fun!
In town now. 2 days in. Checked out a couple clubs in centro yesterday, Ejecutivo and Macaibo. Talent is so / so. But I have different preferences, either big curves (not fat) or beautiful face, or both preferably. I don't like the average looking thin girls. Some girls want a ridiculous price for take out, but you can talk them down if you speak Spanish. In my experience a lot of them said they were working till the club closes at 3:30 and don't want to leave for hotel unless you pay $$. The two I wanted to take back for $150 for 2 horas (plus 70k takeout) , both insisted that I pay them before the service. Not something I recommend doing. They did have 70k for 30min at the actual place, but I wasn't looking for that last night. Most colombian men are there in groups at the tables so it can get a bit awkward at times sitting there by yourself. Note, you approach the girls yourself. The ones that approach you will tend to be hustlers / ugly. Unfortunately the ones I approached had the pay in advance gig for take out, meaning on the spot at the club, which was not happening. Girls tax after every dance, whether you pay attention to them or not. Highlight of the night was meeting a hot young morena that looks like Kim Kardashian. I told her that, and she had no idea who KD was. This is the one who wanted $200US per hour which changed to $200k or so for two hours. She agreed to hang out outside the club and gave her number after I danced with her for a bit. Interesting thing about her was that she was giving me kisses on the lips throughout and had the right personality. Think I'll call her tomorrow.
On a side note, I play blackjack and went a couple big casinos yesterday (Saturday) which were mostly empty of women. If you like casinos, nothing beats the Veneto in Panama.
I apologize for the long rant. I've been to a two casas, New Life, and Dulce and in one talent was limited in number and quality and the other had excellent girls who readily gave their numbers and want to chill who gave excellent sessions, however, I would prefer prettier / younger girls. So, can anyone recommend a casa that I should check out? Aife? Coffee Shop? Something else?
Or perhaps other centro clubs? If anyone is planning a trip to centro, count me in.
First let me say that I wish this business all the success possible. Not to dog pile on but clearly the ownership group got a "hard on" for the project and failed develop the actual business plan, concept, and identify of LL.
Arge but have a time min if they getting a ride in and a free meal. Then if they get a date you tax them.Thanks for your good wishes and advice, but it's obvious from your writing that you weren't around as we were developing this idea. I don't want to report on everything we discussed and did, but we put as much planning into it as we could, and did a shitload of research. Since this is a new concept for Medellin, it was impossible to plan exactly what we would end up with. Our first model was to be a freelance bar similar to LDV, and we'd still be doing that if we hadn't unexpectedly received the strip club license. All the girls we talked to said that THEY did not want Colombianos there. That was the only reason we started with that rule. We are well aware of the Colombiano market, and now that we have the strip license, we will be renovating with that in mind.
In fact, there are many other things going on behind the scenes that I can't make public yet. We had to wait a few weeks for a certain situation to change before we could start the new plan, and coincidently, that starts tomorrow.
I like your idea about the bus and possibly meals, and have thought about it in the past. We may very well do something along those lines. I can't remember if I mentioned the apartment we just rented for our out of town girls, but that will be bringing some fresh talent from Colombian rural towns.
Up until a month ago I was worried about our ability to stay open. Thankfully that is no longer an issue. We have been self supporting for awhile now, and are easily paying our bills without needing to invest more money ourselves. Of course we still are investing for renovations, but we also leased out the office next door which will pay our rent and utilities. The future is bright for Liquid and all that wish us success. We are not going anywhere. We will bumble along until we strike the right balance. In the meantime, we are having the time of our lives developing this, and making it as much fun for our fellow gringos as possible. Judging from the responses on our Facebook page, website, and PMs, most customers are having a great time at Liquid, and are starting to use it as a meeting place for their Western friends, and even Chicas. There is also a growing group of expats that are making Liquid the "Cheers" of Medellin.
Stay tuned; exciting things are coming! But in the meantime, there are ALWAYS Chicas available at Liquid
BlancoVikingo
11-12-13, 02:06
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Hey guys,
Had a great trip to Medellin, stayed with the family of a close friend of mine and they lived near Castilla. Great time aside from the putas, but I was wondering, the last day I was there I made a trip to Fase 2, as far as I am concern its one of the most reputable places, well I used mostly cash throughout my trip, but I did used a credit card over at Fase 2, thinking that well they probably will not screw me. So far so good, no unknown pending charges, but should I perhaps change my Credit Card? I mean I am pretty sure plenty of you have used over there specifically in fase 2 and no problems correct? They have reputation.
Dear Liquid Lounge owners:
I took a friend of mine on Sunday and decided to go to liquid lounge. After I got into the taxi I realized I forgot my phone at my apartment (which had the address of LL). I remembered it was in Barrio Colombia. So I said to the taxi driver,"liquid lounge in Barrio Colombia". He takes me to the barrio and he says he does not know where LL is! Ok, I ask at least 6 taxis, and I even made him call central dispatch. No one could tell him where it is. It was very frustrating. We ended up going to Fase II.
My suggestion is to make it popular with taxi drivers. There are several ways of doing it and I do not want to preach. Sincere good wishes to you and I hope to go back there soon.
P. S. I did go back on Tuesday night with a chica who I had dinner with, who knew where it is and it was closed. Monday was a public holiday but I was not expecting it to be closed at 10 PM on Tuesday. We went to La Isla.
In town now. 2 days in. Checked out a couple clubs in centro yesterday, Ejecutivo and Macaibo. Talent is so / so. But I have different preferences,.....
On a side note, I play blackjack and went a couple big casinos yesterday (Saturday) which were mostly empty of women. If you like casinos, nothing beats the Veneto in Panama.
I apologize for the long rant. I've been to a two casas, New Life, and Dulce and in one talent was limited in number and quality and the other had excellent girls who readily gave their numbers and want to chill who gave excellent sessions, however, I would prefer prettier / younger girls. So, can anyone recommend a casa that I should check out? Aife? Coffee Shop? Something else?
Or perhaps other centro clubs? If anyone is planning a trip to centro, count me in.Good quality talent in MDE costs money or investment in time. Agree with you on Veneto in Panama.
RiceRocket99
11-12-13, 08:11
Going back to MDE in a couple of weeks and decided to try my hand on non-pros / civvies / regular chicas. Quick background, I'm Asian in my early 30s and can speak Spanish. I'll be staying at the Mansion for a couple days and then switch to apartments to check out this non-pro girl (25 years, just finished university, lives w / family) that I've been talking on whatspp for the past couple of months. We have never met. I'm sure you'll ask how I know if she's really a non-pro, well. I'm 99. 9% sure, so let's assume she is. Obviously, I don't know if this will work out or not, but I have really good feelings about it.
The only thing is that I enjoy staying at the Mansion and I am going to finish my trip at Plaza 2 after doing the apt scene. So if things do end up going well, and I want to invite the chica to Plaza 2 (the quieter, chill spot) , would that ring lots of bells in her head? Do non-pros know about the Mansion? Should I even risk it? I know taking her to the main house (plaza 1) is out of the question with all the paisas running around. Well, any advice would help! Thanks.
Maybe have some sort of kick back program for cabbies like the soapies have in Thailand. Maybe offer them a trago or an extra 2500 or 5000 pesos depending on what night or how much the person spends there. That will entice the cabbies to bring guys asking where to meet chicas at.
Dear Liquid Lounge owners:
I took a friend of mine on Sunday and decided to go to liquid lounge. After I got into the taxi I realized I forgot my phone at my apartment (which had the address of LL). I remembered it was in Barrio Colombia. So I said to the taxi driver,"liquid lounge in Barrio Colombia". He takes me to the barrio and he says he does not know where LL is! Ok, I ask at least 6 taxis, and I even made him call central dispatch. No one could tell him where it is. It was very frustrating. We ended up going to Fase II.
My suggestion is to make it popular with taxi drivers. There are several ways of doing it and I do not want to preach. Sincere good wishes to you and I hope to go back there soon.
P. S. I did go back on Tuesday night with a chica who I had dinner with, who knew where it is and it was closed. Monday was a public holiday but I was not expecting it to be closed at 10 PM on Tuesday. We went to La Isla.
SavePros321
11-12-13, 15:59
Maybe have some sort of kick back program for cabbies like the soapies have in Thailand. Maybe offer them a trago or an extra 2500 or 5000 pesos depending on what night or how much the person spends there. That will entice the cabbies to bring guys asking where to meet chicas at.I can only imagine the sausage fest that ensues from that, LOL. Let's let LL work on getting the chicas there in numbers first before we start taking about cabbie kickbacks.
PolandSpring1
11-12-13, 16:09
Fase dos is a recommended establishment so I doubt there will be any problems. But like all stores even in the USA it depends on the individual doing transactions not the business. He might have a card reader and be able to do something with that info later but I highly doubt it. Worst case scenario they do use your credit ccard all you have to do is call your cc company and tell them that is not a valid charge and they will takr it off for you (0 liability). The only issue I havr with using a cc there at that place is they do charge you a 20% surcharge for credit card usage which to me is bullshit and a scheme to take more money from you. One reason why I never went back. To expensive and they scheme on you.
Hey guys,
Had a great trip to Medellin, stayed with the family of a close friend of mine and they lived near Castilla. Great time aside from the putas, but I was wondering, the last day I was there I made a trip to Fase 2, as far as I am concern its one of the most reputable places, well I used mostly cash throughout my trip, but I did used a credit card over at Fase 2, thinking that well they probably will not screw me. So far so good, no unknown pending charges, but should I perhaps change my Credit Card? I mean I am pretty sure plenty of you have used over there specifically in fase 2 and no problems correct? They have reputation.
Going back to MDE in a couple of weeks and decided to try my hand on non-pros / civvies / regular chicas. Quick background, I'm Asian in my early 30s and can speak Spanish. I'll be staying at the Mansion for a couple days and then switch to apartments to check out this non-pro girl (25 years, just finished university, lives w / family) that I've been talking on whatspp for the past couple of months. We have never met. I'm sure you'll ask how I know if she's really a non-pro, well. I'm 99. 9% sure, so let's assume she is. Obviously, I don't know if this will work out or not, but I have really good feelings about it.
The only thing is that I enjoy staying at the Mansion and I am going to finish my trip at Plaza 2 after doing the apt scene. So if things do end up going well, and I want to invite the chica to Plaza 2 (the quieter, chill spot) , would that ring lots of bells in her head? Do non-pros know about the Mansion? Should I even risk it? I know taking her to the main house (plaza 1) is out of the question with all the paisas running around. Well, any advice would help! Thanks.Maybe not not ALL people in Medellin knows about the Mansion and El Castillo, but I wouldn't bring a potential or real GF to those places, is almost obvious the risk involved to be discovered about your side activities.
You can play ignorance telling that you didn't know what kind of "hotel" this one is, but I don't think girls are that naive anymore, just my opinion. Good luck on that dilemma.
I was so curious about this place, I heard Loutron's owner operates this small version of his hight end sauna, Well, just as Loutron, not my cup of tea, is good for those guys addicted to plastic, Prices are more reasonable, I think they told me 150k but honestly I don't remember, but cheaper than Loutron definitely it is.
Address is in the Medellin List very close to Luna Lunera, I'm not real good with numbers as you can see, If you love silicons and black/dark girls this is your place. They have some real cute costeñas (dark girls from the cost) and Caleñas (dark curvy girls from Cali) which MAybe,,, have no silicons, but ALL the paisas there have fake parts, especially butts, and fake butts are a real turn off for me. So I left but this could be useful for many guys with different taste.
SavePros321
11-12-13, 19:26
I was so curious about this place, I heard Loutron's owner operates this small version of his hight end sauna, Well, just as Loutron, not my cup of tea, is good for those guys addicted to plastic, Prices are more reasonable, I think they told me 150k but honestly I don't remember, but cheaper than Loutron definitely it is.
Address is in the Medellin List very close to Luna Lunera, I'm not real good with numbers as you can see, If you love silicons and black / dark girls this is your place. They have some real cute costeñas (dark girls from the cost) and Caleñas (dark curvy girls from Cali) which MAybe, have no silicons, but ALL the paisas there have fake parts, especially butts, and fake butts are a real turn off for me. So I left but this could be useful for many guys with different taste.Bro, are you talking about Abydos?
All it takes for things to go bad is for her to arrive at the El Castillo via a taxi who has a driver in the know and for him to get chatting with her about what kind of place you are staying in. I speak from experience bro. If. I were you and really wanting to do the Non Pro thing than I would avoid any known mongering hotel and stick with an apartment rental. Always a good ideal to make friends with the portero (s) so they do not mess up your game either!
Going back to MDE in a couple of weeks and decided to try my hand on non-pros / civvies / regular chicas. Quick background, I'm Asian in my early 30s and can speak Spanish. I'll be staying at the Mansion for a couple days and then switch to apartments to check out this non-pro girl (25 years, just finished university, lives w / family) that I've been talking on whatspp for the past couple of months. We have never met. I'm sure you'll ask how I know if she's really a non-pro, well. I'm 99. 9% sure, so let's assume she is. Obviously, I don't know if this will work out or not, but I have really good feelings about it.
The only thing is that I enjoy staying at the Mansion and I am going to finish my trip at Plaza 2 after doing the apt scene. So if things do end up going well, and I want to invite the chica to Plaza 2 (the quieter, chill spot) , would that ring lots of bells in her head? Do non-pros know about the Mansion? Should I even risk it? I know taking her to the main house (plaza 1) is out of the question with all the paisas running around. Well, any advice would help! Thanks.
Member #4244
11-12-13, 20:33
Maybe have some sort of kick back program for cabbies like the soapies have in Thailand. Maybe offer them a trago or an extra 2500 or 5000 pesos depending on what night or how much the person spends there. That will entice the cabbies to bring guys asking where to meet chicas at.They already have that, they told my cabbie to bring any gringo and they would hook him up. He told them that seemed limiting, what about Colombians. First they told him no, then when he said that they also have money, they said OK, if it seems like the guy has money.
You can't make this shit up. It's a city with very little tourism where Colombians are buying pussy all day, and they seem to want to make it into a treehouse hangout for Gringos.
Thanks for your good wishes and advice, but it's obvious from your writing that you weren't around as we were developing this idea. I don't want to report on everything we discussed and did, but we put as much planning into it as we could, and did a shitload of research. Since this is a new concept for Medellin, it was impossible to plan exactly what we would end up with. Our first model was to be a freelance bar similar to LDV, and we'd still be doing that if we hadn't unexpectedly received the strip club license. All the girls we talked to said that THEY did not want Colombianos there. That was the only reason we started with that rule. We are well aware of the Colombiano market, and now that we have the strip license, we will be renovating with that in mind.
In fact, there are many other things going on behind the scenes that I can't make public yet. We had to wait a few weeks for a certain situation to change before we could start the new plan, and coincidently, that starts tomorrow.
I like your idea about the bus and possibly meals, and have thought about it in the past. We may very well do something along those lines. I can't remember if I mentioned the apartment we just rented for our out of town girls, but that will be bringing some fresh talent from Colombian rural towns.
Up until a month ago I was worried about our ability to stay open. Thankfully that is no longer an issue. We have been self supporting for awhile now, and are easily paying our bills without needing to invest more money ourselves. Of course we still are investing for renovations, but we also leased out the office next door which will pay our rent and utilities. The future is bright for Liquid and all that wish us success. We are not going anywhere. We will bumble along until we strike the right balance. In the meantime, we are having the time of our lives developing this, and making it as much fun for our fellow gringos as possible. Judging from the responses on our Facebook page, website, and PMs, most customers are having a great time at Liquid, and are starting to use it as a meeting place for their Western friends, and even Chicas. There is also a growing group of expats that are making Liquid the "Cheers" of Medellin.
Stay tuned; exciting things are coming! But in the meantime, there are ALWAYS Chicas available at LiquidI too hope the new club succeeds and when I'm there I will go and buy a few drinks to support the place. My request would be to have a night or 2 w / live music, esp. Salsa / bachata / etc. Where guys could go (or take their dates to) and enjoy a good band or singer, doesn't have to be a big production. I know all the ladies there can dance so dancing lessons could also be a draw for gringos like me that want to do more than sit on my ass looking around. I'll be there in January and stop by a few times to show my support. Thanks for all the hard work putting the venue together. Good Luck!
Member #4244
11-12-13, 20:41
Going back to MDE in a couple of weeks and decided to try my hand on non-pros / civvies / regular chicas. Quick background, I'm Asian in my early 30s and can speak Spanish. I'll be staying at the Mansion for a couple days and then switch to apartments to check out this non-pro girl (25 years, just finished university, lives w / family) that I've been talking on whatspp for the past couple of months. We have never met. I'm sure you'll ask how I know if she's really a non-pro, well. I'm 99. 9% sure, so let's assume she is. Obviously, I don't know if this will work out or not, but I have really good feelings about it.
The only thing is that I enjoy staying at the Mansion and I am going to finish my trip at Plaza 2 after doing the apt scene. So if things do end up going well, and I want to invite the chica to Plaza 2 (the quieter, chill spot) , would that ring lots of bells in her head? Do non-pros know about the Mansion? Should I even risk it? I know taking her to the main house (plaza 1) is out of the question with all the paisas running around. Well, any advice would help! Thanks.First of all if this is a stranger whom you met online who is making plans to fuck you and probably receive some reciprocal benefits, then she is a pro of some variety. Non-pros who do pro things are still pros. Just because you don't write for a newspaper everyday doesn't mean you're not a journalist when you do publish something, right? Further, I am going to be completely honest, in five years of experience, YOU CANNOT TRUST A PAISA. I don't care if she is some chick with a cavernous gap from the Mayorista or a nun. Their nature is to lie, hide, manipulate, steal, etc. They aren't even aware they are doing it sometimes. Don't get your hopes high, be clear and don't invest any money without immediate return. I'm not saying to be totally paranoid, but don't get ahead of yourself.
Secondly why in fuck's name would you bring a regular girl to a prepago hangout like The Mansion or its sister property? Take her to a normal hotel or apartment. The Mansion is not a place for respectable girls, non pros, etc, you'd probably be better off taking her to a love motel than there LOL.
I can only imagine the sausage fest that ensues from that, LOL. Let's let LL work on getting the chicas there in numbers first before we start taking about cabbie kickbacks.Jaja. Yes, we have that policy in place, but it's a big city with many taxis. We give them 10k for any new customer. Half the drivers don't know how to find Fase dos either, but towards closing time, we have a passel of taxis at our front door looking for fares.
BTW we are open till 3AM now.
The new VIP room will be available this weekend. Shower, mini bar, TVs, and all the rest one expects from a love room.
JayHighFive
11-13-13, 00:17
So Av8r what time can we expect to see girls there now?
Jaja. Yes, we have that policy in place, but it's a big city with many taxis. We give them 10k for any new customer. Half the drivers don't know how to find Fase dos either, but towards closing time, we have a passel of taxis at our front door looking for fares.
BTW we are open till 3AM now.
The new VIP room will be available this weekend. Shower, mini bar, TVs, and all the rest one expects from a love room.
RiceRocket99
11-13-13, 03:00
Thanks for the advice on the posts and PMs I received. I was hesitant to cancel on the mansion since I knew there wouldn't be a way to get it back considering it's Thanksgiving week. But I decided it's worth the risk and plus I have plenty of FB contacts if it doesn't work out. I just don't like staying in a studio apt by myself even though I can get chicas over. I just enjoy the mongering brotherhood in the mansion, at least it was that case my first time there. I've already planned things with the non-pro like paragliding and going to Guatape, so I'll see how it goes. But I'll be careful not to be used and abused. Hopefully, that will happen in the bedroom!
RiceRocket99
11-13-13, 03:05
But I'll be at the mansion on 11/22 and 11/23 for 2 nights to get some sure action, so if anyone is there. Look for the chino!
Thanks for the advice on the posts and PMs I received. I was hesitant to cancel on the mansion since I knew there wouldn't be a way to get it back considering it's Thanksgiving week. But I decided it's worth the risk and plus I have plenty of FB contacts if it doesn't work out. I just don't like staying in a studio apt by myself even though I can get chicas over. I just enjoy the mongering brotherhood in the mansion, at least it was that case my first time there. I've already planned things with the non-pro like paragliding and going to Guatape, so I'll see how it goes. But I'll be careful not to be used and abused. Hopefully, that will happen in the bedroom!
Bro, are you talking about Abydos?Yeah same one oops sorry, I never knew how to spell it, a friend of mine took me and never looked for it's official name, if a moderator can edit the name would be appreciated.
I reported that I could not find LL and went to Fase II.
Found a stunner there. Samantha, is 19 and has a killer body. She is a very good dancer and her enthusiasm was very evident on the stage. She is friendly and likes to smoke a joint. Took her to the room for 1 hour. I like the fact that Fase II has nice showers and each room has a stereo. I had a great time and we were in the room till the phone rang. I wanted to see her again but it being a holiday weekend, she did not come back to work the next two days.
Another girl, whose name I am blanking now is also very beautiful. She wore a long silver decoration on her forehead like the girls from east India do. She has a prettier face, good body but slightly less friendly than Samantha. She also shared her weed with me. The ladies prefer "blonde" and not cripa :-D.
Over all, Fase II had fewer girls this time and many of my favs are now working at La Isla. More on that later.
SavePros321
11-13-13, 04:00
Thanks for the advice on the posts and PMs I received. I was hesitant to cancel on the mansion since I knew there wouldn't be a way to get it back considering it's Thanksgiving week. But I decided it's worth the risk and plus I have plenty of FB contacts if it doesn't work out. I just don't like staying in a studio apt by myself even though I can get chicas over. I just enjoy the mongering brotherhood in the mansion, at least it was that case my first time there. I've already planned things with the non-pro like paragliding and going to Guatape, so I'll see how it goes. But I'll be careful not to be used and abused. Hopefully, that will happen in the bedroom!Just keep in mind that if you bring your quote/un-quote "non-pro" to the Mansion, she could very well be working there the week after you leave. They use the same list that they have any outside chica you bring there (to sign in on) to call and invite your chicas over to work at the Mansion.
This is an exchange between Joe101 and Boyd (Elcastillojefe: owner of CB2) over at C R T:
Joe101: "The last few times I stayed at mansion/castillo a few of the girls that I brought back to my room had their cedulas copied and then were called after I left to come back to the mansion for work as a prostitute. I'm not in the business of getting girls to work for you and any gringo how hopes to hook up with a girlfriend better not take them to your house. Mansion or castillo. They are well know in Medellin and on many forums as wh*re houses. I apologize for reality elcastillojefe."
Boyd: "Sorry Joe for your girlfriend but the reality is that alot of Colombian girls need the money. There has been many times that an American leaves Colombia to find his girlfriend working. Even when he is sending her money. It is the USA dollar that was the problem not us.
We are required like all hotels to photo copy all girls cedulas to show the goverment.
Just remember the "free stuff" cost the most."
SavePros321
11-13-13, 04:03
Yeah same one oops sorry, I never knew how to spell it, a friend of mine took me and never looked for it's official name, if a moderator can edit the name would be appreciated.No problem. I figured since Spanish is probably your first language you were pronouncing the "b" as a "v". En todo caso, thanks for the intel!
No problem. I figured since Spanish is probably your first language you were pronouncing the "b" as a "v". En todo caso, thanks for the intel!I just heard the name, and as you said, B and V sound just the same in Spanish. ávido means eager or willing in Spanish. Abydo doesn't exist. That's why my confusion. Thanks for correcting the name bro.
Abydos at Ave 33 No 64-198.
They like to give Egyptian names to clubs, like Isis, Horus etc.
Brad Stonewall
11-13-13, 07:24
BTW. I'm making my virgin trip out to Medellin in December. Cheers!
Peace and Love,
YGI am a noobie planning a trip to Medellin. Any mentors heading that way?
Thought I would give an update for any new people coming in for the Holidays or thinking of visiting or staying soon in Medellin. I have been living and working here for over two years, been coming here for over 6+ years. I'm moving because it is too quiet Sunday through Thursday and I need more excitement. So I need to move on, but it is a good place and will be back often. So if I can let me give you a starting plan.
For day through night time Women:
First, if you have a high rating system, then continue reading. If your 60+ in age and really believe that a 2 is a 9 or 10, just go to New Life or Fantasies in Centro. You are my hero and I can't wait for that day! Those places in that area cost around 40,000 pesos. You will be in heaven there. NOW, if you are in your 20s. 30s. 40s and you have higher tastes and a better eye site. And you want a 7 or 8 maybe a 9 continue reading.
Day time Noon till 5:
Right now the action is the best in over 2 years in my opioin (no idea why) , I would say the best day places during the day are:
1) Blueroom. 4 nice ones. 4 ugly ones cost 110,000. They always have at least one 8 there. This was the most I have seen here in 3 years.
2) Energy – Has a bunch of 6 and 7's right now. Cost around 110,000.
3) There also is new place that has opened north of Bello (They have 6 girls working and 4 were 8's, Cost 150,000). The girl that owns half of it previously managed Loutron and Abydos. Lay out is really nice, it has an outside pool where the girls walk down and over the pool to meet you (like Loutron use to be). Open till 10pm as well. Worth the drive to see (plan around traffic).
4) Loutron and Abydos really have sucked over the past few years. Nothing new. Loutron is over priced, but an easy stop to and from the airport. Place has really just went down hill and is a hit or miss. You will always find 5 and 6s there.
5) Centro Afrodita CRA 45 EL PALO No. 56. 45, Fusion CRA 43 N. 53-34, and Latin Candies at Calle 58 No. 45D – 104 were probably the best out of the 20 or so centro locations I went to. Ask if they do visits, some will give you a number and come over before or after there shift.
Early evening 8 or 9 pm:
1) Luna Campestre Av. 33 #63B 215 has some talent at times.
2) Lejano Oriente (or I call it "Java the Hut" lady) Carrera 41 No 18D-55 has 2 really nice gals. FYI this is the oldest and first place to be open in Medellin. Worth hitting.
11 to 12 pm:
1) Phase II is by far the best. It is a strip bar with hotel next door. At times you will have a few 9's. FYI, Don't bother taking any home. 3 out of 4 times problems arise. Just take them next door. It is around 150, 000 or so.
2) By the Intercontinental hotel, Phase II sister place that is near the hotel. They changed names a few times. It is ok, same girls rotate out of Phase II and work here, but talent is slightly lower. But is still Number 2 on the list.
3) There is a new place around the corner from Phase II for Foreigners and girls, but I have not seen many people when I have been by.
4) I really would not recommend other places. Some people like the 2 places (use to be 3) that are side by side in Centro, but it is a pretty shitty area. (Although a few months ago I found a good looking one there at 7pm). Just be careful in that area if you go.
5) A new place opened in Lleras called Table. Sucks. The same girls work in Centro for 80% less. Went six times over the pats few months and really bad.
6) 4 or 5 doors down from Energy, there is a small poker game that starts around 10 pm. It is located upstairs. Cops are sometimes in the place, so it is reasonably safe. At midnight they close the table and two girls go at it on the table. Worth seeing. Then if you want one, you can have either or both of them. Dirty rooms. I have seen a few really decent girls at the place.
Also, a good site that lists a lot of them with photos is:
http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlor
Food:
Chef Burger in Lleras is really good. Two streets straight up from Chef Burger has three restaurants on the higher end, but the best in Medellin. Fucking Bad Ass Ribs down from Bogota Beer Company is good. If you want to get out of Medellin, Mundos 1835 is a really good steak place. 420 Bistro in San Fernando Plaza is good for lunch with excellent eye candy walking around.
Cell Phone: Get a T Mobile phone if you are coming from the states with the international plan. Works great. If you get a SIM card here, the minutes vanish in 1 day. If you get a plan your text messages vanish in 3 days. Everyone uses WhatsUp or Viber app.
Want a good massage?
Across from Oviedo Mall on the 3rd or 4th floor. There is a Mens Spa. For 1 hour it is 60, 000 or 80, 000 for a real massage. If you want a happy ending, ask and they will charge you 50, 000. They are really quiet about doing this act. So you must ask.
Sundays:
Wake up at 9 or 10 am and walk El Poblado if you are not too hung over. You will see some of the hottest women ever. Some people walk the malls, again not my thing. Although, I have meet a few women at the mall while I was there actually shopping for things by accident. Sundays and weekdays are quiet.
Beer Bars / Football in Lleras
Don't bother going out for a drink until 8:30 or 9pm. If you are a day time drunk, you will be drinking alone. Here is a few places
1) Patricks Irish Sportsbar.
2) Bogota Beer Company just opened. Really nice. Probably will be a bunch of higher end Colombians hanging there like in Bogota, but a nice place.
3) Irish Pub (3 or 4 streets up from Patricks)
4) Tiger Paw Hostel (small back packer hang out. 2 for 1 drinks 9 to 10 pm daily). Sometimes you get a good crowd in.
5) Some people like Hooters. I hated it. Service, owners, and managers are really bad. You can't get a beer if more then 5 people are in the place.
Wine bars.
They open and close so fast, you can't keep track. I do not know of any left open.
Discos.
There are many late night discos, but it was never my crowd so I really can't help, but you can't miss them. They are everywhere. You can easily get girls out late at night for 50, 000 in other areas of town like Bello. On Wednesday nights the best night club is located directly across from Tiger Paw. It is only good on Wednesday.
Taxis.
Easy to get and cheap. Always take one at night / after 11pm. I don't care where you are in the city, take one. Heard too many crazy stories and wrong place / wrong time stories.
Tour Guides.
If you want a tour guide, I have used William for years. You can trust him. I have left rent money for him to deposit because I was in a rush. Never had an issue. He is honest and will treat you well. He will take you around on a safe tour to these places. He knows everyone in town. If you need help with a Colombia I'd he can really help. His site is willisbestguidemedellin. Com or call his cell (573) 300 677 80 58. He charges 30, 000 per hour and can pick you up directly from the airport. Or just stay at the mansion (Greg's place). You are safe with both people. There aer a few others, but I have lost touch. If you ask any of the above places while visiting, they will probably have a few others they can recommend. I just stayed with William because he is flexible and reliable.
Monthly rentals.
There are a lot of really shitty monthly rentals. Before you commit you really have to visit the place. They love to throw a bunch of 1970 and 1980 furniture together and call it a rental, so they can make an extra $400 US a month on rent. So beware. Also, almost all places require 1 month lease to stay by law. So make sure you don't have issues with the building management. There are a number of cheap low end places for $1000 to $1500 US, but again that is not my thing.
1) Rich at FirstAmericanRealtyMedellin. Com probably has your best selections and quality. He has a large staff and is probably the biggest player in town. Plan on spending $2500 to $4000 US a month for a nice place. Worth checking out.
2) VRBO. Com is a good source as well. Ed has an awesome place. I really enjoyed staying there:
http://www.vrbo.com/484481.
Price is high at $4400 a month, but it is awesome! He has a few other new places as well. Nice guy out of NY.
3) Nueva Alejandria building is nice if you can find a place in it (again see it before you pay for a month). This is the foreigner building in Medellin. Pool on the 24th floor. Some rentals are thrown together places in it, so check them out first. They are strict on 1 month minimum.
4) If you want an unfurnished place, ProIntegral is your best selection. They require 3 to 6 months up front as a deposit. If you plan on staying a few years, you can spend $6000 US on furniture and $1700000 a month for a nice place. Prices have been going up really fast over the past two years, so shop around. There is a furniture street where you can get everything really cheap. Tektronix off El Poblado has dirt cheap electronics and TV's (it is a one stop shop).
Now. Are you here to find a Girlfriend?
I have meet dozens and dozens of guys and have so many funny stories to tell, I could type for hours. I will keep it short. Here is the truth. The women are not looking for an American or Foreign man to come rescue them. They are happy here. The really hot women do not want anything to do with you. Nor do they want to be seen with you because everyone will think they are a working girl. They do not want to be considered the girl that bangs the foreigners either. If you live here for 3 or 5 months and they see that you actually do live here, you have a chance at getting a 9 or 10. You will not come here for 2 weeks or 2 months and find a hot girl friend that wants to move back with you, so don't waste your time with this idea.
Websites for girls:
Never explored them much. Your best bet is if you speak good Spanish is to join colombiancupid. Com. It is like $35 a month. I know many guys that have meet girls through the site, but only the people that speak fluent Spanish have done well with it. I have seen some really good success stories, but again don't waste your money if you do not speak Spanish well.
Hope my years in Medellin helps a few of you. I don't post often, so take it for what it is worth.
JayHighFive
11-13-13, 13:50
Come on. The Mansion didn't turn her into a working girl. If she came with you there than 95% chance she was already working."IF" they call her and she comes back there than she wants to do it anyway, right?
Just keep in mind that if you bring your quote / un-quote "non-pro" to the Mansion, she could very well be working there the week after you leave. They use the same list that they have any outside chica you bring there (to sign in on) to call and invite your chicas over to work at the Mansion.
This is an exchange between Joe101 and Boyd (Elcastillojefe: owner of CB2) over at C R T:
Joe101: "The last few times I stayed at mansion / castillo a few of the girls that I brought back to my room had their cedulas copied and then were called after I left to come back to the mansion for work as a prostitute. I'm not in the business of getting girls to work for you and any gringo how hopes to hook up with a girlfriend better not take them to your house. Mansion or castillo. They are well know in Medellin and on many forums as wh*re houses. I apologize for reality elcastillojefe."
Boyd: "Sorry Joe for your girlfriend but the reality is that alot of Colombian girls need the money. There has been many times that an American leaves Colombia to find his girlfriend working. Even when he is sending her money. It is the USA dollar that was the problem not us.
We are required like all hotels to photo copy all girls cedulas to show the goverment.
Just remember the "free stuff" cost the most."
SavePros321
11-13-13, 15:46
Come on. The Mansion didn't turn her into a working girl. If she came with you there than 95% chance she was already working."IF" they call her and she comes back there than she wants to do it anyway, right?He never said that they responded to the Mansion's request when they were called. He just said that the girls told him that the Mansion invited them to come and work at the Mansion as prostitutes.
I'm not sure were you got "turned them into working girls" from out of my original post.
Boyd[/b]: "Sorry Joe for your girlfriend but the reality is that alot of Colombian girls need the money. There has been many times that an American leaves Colombia to find his girlfriend working. Even when he is sending her money. It is the USA dollar that was the problem not us.
"You might lose your turn, But you never lose your girlfriend
Thought I would give an update for any new people coming in for the Holidays or thinking of visiting or staying soon in Medellin. I have been living and working here for over two years, been coming here for over 6+ years. I'm moving because it is too quiet Sunday through Thursday and I need more excitement. So I need to move on, but it is a good place and will be back often. So if I can let me give you a starting plan.
For day through night time Women:
First, if you have a high rating system, then continue reading. If your 60+ in age and really believe that a 2 is a 9 or 10, just go to New Life or Fantasies in Centro. You are my hero and I can't wait for that day! Those places in that area cost around 40, 000 pesos. You will be in heaven there. NOW, if you are in your 20s. 30s. 40s and you have higher tastes and a better eye site. And you want a 7 or 8 maybe a 9 continue reading.
Day time Noon till 5:
Right now the action is the best in over 2 years in my opioin (no idea why) , I would say the best day places during the day are:
1) Blueroom. 4 nice ones. 4 ugly ones cost 110, 000. They always have at least one 8 there. This was the most I have seen here in 3 years.
2) Energy – Has a bunch of 6 and 7's right now. Cost around 110, 000.
3) There also is new place that has opened north of Bello (They have 6 girls working and 4 were 8's, Cost 150, 000). The girl that owns half of it previously managed Loutron and Abydos. Lay out is really nice, it has an outside pool where the girls walk down and over the pool to meet you (like Loutron use to be). Open till 10pm as well. Worth the drive to see (plan around traffic).
4) Loutron and Abydos really have sucked over the past few years. Nothing new. Loutron is over priced, but an easy stop to and from the airport. Place has really just went down hill and is a hit or miss. You will always find 5 and 6s there.
Also, a good site that lists a lot of them with photos is:
http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlorThanks for sharing this link, the photos of the casa entrances is very helpful (if the addresses are up to date). Can you confirm the correct address to Blue Room (haven't been there in years). Also would love to check out the place in Bello if you can provide us with an address. What do you think of La Isla?
SavePros321
11-13-13, 19:46
Excellent post and a wealth of info. Thanks Dmd Joe!
The part you mentioned about Paisas not wanting to be seen with foreigners had been said many times. It is why chicas go to Cartagena to hook (away from family), and why Liquid Lounge has to bring chicas in from out of town. None of the paisas except for current and former mansion girls would be caught dead going into LL. All it takes is for one friend or family member to see her going in or coming out of there for her to get labeled as a puta.
And yes, these girls are not looking for a White Knight to come and whisk them away from Medellin. They love their city. Smoke Cripa, drink guaro, and party all day and night with friends and family. Why would she give that up to come and live with some lonely-ass gringo in America? Hell, look at us: most of us (mongers) are trying to get the fuck out of here (sex prison) , LOL!
Member #4244
11-13-13, 21:28
DMD Joe, may we have some more information on this casa "north of Bello" please? What is it called? Or an address? Thanks!
Optic Guard
11-13-13, 22:43
I have been to Medellin 3 times and it amazing to me that most guys don't go to other areas but If you don't speak Spanish then there is not a lot for these people to do. But I find if you have a eye for only young girls then you are going to be very surprised they really have other people in there life. When I was there last my white count was so low but the woman that I was doing were 35 to 50 some women of them were great and a lot of fun. So if you can get a little game then think outside the box you can have a good time and there is a site in Spanish that I have not seen on the Board that I use when I want young stuff. Some of the best times I have had where outside Medellin in the small towns, but if you can't stay for 10 days or longer you will always have to pay to play LOL. I am 58 and not in good shape but some of them women over 35 are just great I am not a mongerer really but I have a little game and know how to have fun. I even went to a sex club with a girl that was 28 and went crazy with a lot of couple you just to be friendly.
LukeSkywalker
11-13-13, 23:04
Wow. Many thanks to Dmd Joe for an excellent summary of the Medellin scene. This info should be saved for first time visitors.
What would be a convenient, nice and clean hotel near Mayorista?
Cost per pop at 100, 000 COP ( 2K per US$ ) is around US$50?
If I go to the Philippines, $50 gets me a nice, young, slim, horny girl with hard body for 24 hours. These young girls do get me horny. One time i picked up 2 girls separately, screwing them in the hotel, and climaxed 7 times within 24 hours. The girls always managed to get me aroused.
Well, I'll do OK in the Phil if I don't get blown out to the seas by their typhoons first.
Thought I would give an update for any new people coming in for the Holidays or thinking of visiting or staying soon in Medellin. I have been living and working here for over two years, been coming here for over 6+ years. I'm moving because it is too quiet Sunday through Thursday and I need more excitement. So I need to move on, but it is a good place and will be back often. So if I can let me give you a starting plan.
For day through night time Women:
First, if you have a high rating system, then continue reading. If your 60+ in age and really believe that a 2 is a 9 or 10, just go to New Life or Fantasies in Centro. You are my hero and I can't wait for that day! Those places in that area cost around 40, 000 pesos. You will be in heaven there. NOW, if you are in your 20s. 30s. 40s and you have higher tastes and a better eye site. And you want a 7 or 8 maybe a 9 continue reading.
Day time Noon till 5:
Right now the action is the best in over 2 years in my opioin (no idea why) , I would say the best day places during the day are:
1) Blueroom. 4 nice ones. 4 ugly ones cost 110, 000. They always have at least one 8 there. This was the most I have seen here in 3 years.
2) Energy – Has a bunch of 6 and 7's right now. Cost around 110, 000.
3) There also is new place that has opened north of Bello (They have 6 girls working and 4 were 8's, Cost 150, 000). The girl that owns half of it previously managed Loutron and Abydos. Lay out is really nice, it has an outside pool where the girls walk down and over the pool to meet you (like Loutron use to be). Open till 10pm as well. Worth the drive to see (plan around traffic).
4) Loutron and Abydos really have sucked over the past few years. Nothing new. Loutron is over priced, but an easy stop to and from the airport. Place has really just went down hill and is a hit or miss. You will always find 5 and 6s there.
5) Centro Afrodita CRA 45 EL PALO No. 56. 45, Fusion CRA 43 N. 53-34, and Latin Candies at Calle 58 No. 45D – 104 were probably the best out of the 20 or so centro locations I went to. Ask if they do visits, some will give you a number and come over before or after there shift.
Early evening 8 or 9 pm:
1) Luna Campestre Av. 33 #63B 215 has some talent at times.
2) Lejano Oriente (or I call it "Java the Hut" lady) Carrera 41 No 18D-55 has 2 really nice gals. FYI this is the oldest and first place to be open in Medellin. Worth hitting.
11 to 12 pm:
1) Phase II is by far the best. It is a strip bar with hotel next door. At times you will have a few 9's. FYI, Don't bother taking any home. 3 out of 4 times problems arise. Just take them next door. It is around 150, 000 or so.
2) By the Intercontinental hotel, Phase II sister place that is near the hotel. They changed names a few times. It is ok, same girls rotate out of Phase II and work here, but talent is slightly lower. But is still Number 2 on the list.
3) There is a new place around the corner from Phase II for Foreigners and girls, but I have not seen many people when I have been by.
Also, a good site that lists a lot of them with photos is:
http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlor
Sundays:
Wake up at 9 or 10 am and walk El Poblado if you are not too hung over. You will see some of the hottest women ever. Some people walk the malls, again not my thing. Although, I have meet a few women at the mall while I was there actually shopping for things by accident. Sundays and weekdays are quiet.
Tour Guides.
If you want a tour guide, I have used William for years. You can trust him. I have left rent money for him to deposit because I was in a rush. Never had an issue. He is honest and will treat you well. He will take you around on a safe tour to these places. He knows everyone in town. If you need help with a Colombia I'd he can really help. His site is willisbestguidemedellin. Com or call his cell (573) 300 677 80 58. He charges 30, 000 per hour and can pick you up directly from the airport. Or just stay at the mansion (Greg's place). You are safe with both people. There aer a few others, but I have lost touch. If you ask any of the above places while visiting, they will probably have a few others they can recommend. I just stayed with William because he is flexible and reliable.
Monthly rentals.
There are a lot of really shitty monthly rentals. Before you commit you really have to visit the place. They love to throw a bunch of 1970 and 1980 furniture together and call it a rental, so they can make an extra $400 US a month on rent. So beware. Also, almost all places require 1 month lease to stay by law. So make sure you don't have issues with the building management. There are a number of cheap low end places for $1000 to $1500 US, but again that is not my thing.
1) Rich at FirstAmericanRealtyMedellin. Com probably has your best selections and quality. He has a large staff and is probably the biggest player in town. Plan on spending $2500 to $4000 US a month for a nice place. Worth checking out.
2) VRBO. Com is a good source as well. Ed has an awesome place. I really enjoyed staying there:
http://www.vrbo.com/484481.
Price is high at $4400 a month, but it is awesome! He has a few other new places as well. Nice guy out of NY.
3) Nueva Alejandria building is nice if you can find a place in it (again see it before you pay for a month). This is the foreigner building in Medellin. Pool on the 24th floor. Some rentals are thrown together places in it, so check them out first. They are strict on 1 month minimum.
4) If you want an unfurnished place, ProIntegral is your best selection. They require 3 to 6 months up front as a deposit. If you plan on staying a few years, you can spend $6000 US on furniture and $1700000 a month for a nice place. Prices have been going up really fast over the past two years, so shop around. There is a furniture street where you can get everything really cheap. Tektronix off El Poblado has dirt cheap electronics and TV's (it is a one stop shop).
Now. Are you here to find a Girlfriend?
I have meet dozens and dozens of guys and have so many funny stories to tell, I could type for hours. I will keep it short. Here is the truth. The women are not looking for an American or Foreign man to come rescue them. They are happy here. The really hot women do not want anything to do with you. Nor do they want to be seen with you because everyone will think they are a working girl. They do not want to be considered the girl that bangs the foreigners either. If you live here for 3 or 5 months and they see that you actually do live here, you have a chance at getting a 9 or 10. You will not come here for 2 weeks or 2 months and find a hot girl friend that wants to move back with you, so don't waste your time with this idea.
Websites for girls:
Never explored them much. Your best bet is if you speak good Spanish is to join colombiancupid. Com. It is like $35 a month. I know many guys that have meet girls through the site, but only the people that speak fluent Spanish have done well with it. I have seen some really good success stories, but again don't waste your money if you do not speak Spanish well.
Hope my years in Medellin helps a few of you. I don't post often, so take it for what it is worth.
SlamCity7777
11-14-13, 00:13
Muy Bien! Thanks for this over view. This should be anchored to the top of every page! That's how much I agree with it!
Questions. What is this place in Bello called? Number or Addy? Is it worth it? Bello is a hike and with traffic it could be an hour plus in camino. Good call on Loutron. 2-4 years agao for $150-$180K I think it was you could get a 10. A solid 10 every time and there was 12+ of them. Now like you said 6s and 7s with a few 8's. Chunky girls IMO but if you like thicker chicks.
The Sunday "Bonner" run. Oh man! That is one of my favorite things to do in Medellin. You always hear guys ask about regular girls? Well here is about 5, 000 of them all in yoga pants. Yoga pants! Also I'd like to point out (because most members here have no game or clue) Good girls exercise and wake up on Sundays. Skanks are sleeping off a bender or walking home from the Mansion! Hahah!
This brings me to your point perfect assessment of "Regular Girls" in Colombia. The girls here are very conscience of appearance and their "rep". No decent, upper middle strata Colombian girl wants to be seen as a prepago. What you said; Mr. Nail meet Mr. Hammer. If you don't Speak Spanish and do not live there, have a trip longer than 2 weeks, or intend to come a few times the regular girl path might be closed to you.
DUE the Poker game place? I was there one night (up stairs?) like 4 years ago. A cabbie brought me and I had an amazing session with this girl with the best real ever! She was 19, 5'6" and I mean like porn star Angel Dark quality boobies.
Thanks again for the report!
6) 4 or 5 doors down from Energy, there is a small poker game that starts around 10 pm. It is located upstairs. Cops are sometimes in the place, so it is reasonably safe. At midnight they close the table and two girls go at it on the table. Worth seeing. Then if you want one, you can have either or both of them. Dirty rooms. I have seen a few really decent girls at the place.
Also, a good site that lists a lot of them with photos is:
http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin/erotic-massage-parlor
Cell Phone: Get a T Mobile phone if you are coming from the states with the international plan. Works great. If you get a SIM card here, the minutes vanish in 1 day. If you get a plan your text messages vanish in 3 days. Everyone uses WhatsUp or Viber app.
Sundays:
Wake up at 9 or 10 am and walk El Poblado if you are not too hung over. You will see some of the hottest women ever. Some people walk the malls, again not my thing. Although, I have meet a few women at the mall while I was there actually shopping for things by accident. Sundays and weekdays are quiet.
Tour Guides..
Harvey1717
11-14-13, 04:33
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Excellent post and a wealth of info. Thanks Dmd Joe!
The part you mentioned about Paisas not wanting to be seen with foreigners had been said many times. It is why chicas go to Cartagena to hook (away from family) , and why Liquid Lounge has to bring chicas in from out of town. None of the paisas except for current and former mansion girls would be caught dead going into LL. All it takes is for one friend or family member to see her going in or coming out of there for her to get labeled as a puta.Liquid does not HAVE to bring in chicas from out of town. There are many new NON Mansion girls who are starting to show up at Liquid. Their only concern is having gringos to seduce. Obviously there are many who won't come, but to say "none" is a gross exaggeration. I get at least 1 chica a day contacting me for "permission" to visit us, and they are not current or previous Mansion girls, in fact many have just turned 18 and are looking for business opportunities.
Our main reason for bringing out of town chicas is so that we can handpick the types of girls we know our customers like, and to have a reliable group on hand for when customers drop by. The others simply come when they need cash, and as most of us know, have little incentive to work if they have money in their pocket. It drives me crazy to have 8 chicas hanging around when there are no gringos and vica versa. The out of town girls should solve that problem. We have another exciting project that will keep even more girls around Liquid, but it's not set in stone yet, so I can't discuss it. Hopefully, I will announce it this weekend.
Cell Phone: Get a T Mobile phone if you are coming from the states with the international plan. Works great. If you get a SIM card here, the minutes vanish in 1 day. If you get a plan your text messages vanish in 3 days. Everyone uses WhatsUp or Viber app.Wholeheartedly concur with this. I used to carry an old phone and get sim / minutes with Tigo, but now that I have T-Mobile, it is WAY better, and I don't have to mess with a separate phone.
Along with some new strippers, and new NON Mansion freelancers.
Strippers every night this week as we get closer to our actual opening as a full strip club (instead of a wannabe amateurish sexy mess.
Wholeheartedly concur with this. I used to carry an old phone and get sim / minutes with Tigo, but now that I have T-Mobile, it is WAY better, and I don't have to mess with a separate phone.But then if some asshole at the club steals your phone from your hip while you are drunk and running your hand along that paisa's leg, then you are have lost your primary phone and are screwed.
I have 2 other travel phones that cover me for the major international bandwidths. I bought one in Peru and one in the PI, each for about $25 WITH a sim card. When phones are that cheap, there is no point in risking carrying around your primary phone. I think that's just stupid.
I have posted this in another forum. I am posting it here because it maybe useful for active members here.
I had a fantastic first trip to MDE. I was in MDE from 08/25 to 08/29.
I landed in MDE around 6:30 PM and customs was pretty fast. The driver from Mansion was outside and took off to the hotel. The driver was a nice guy who was telling me little bit about MDE. It was a fun ride to the hotel, It is a great view while going down to the hills.
After checking in and taking a shower I went down to the bar. There were about 6 girls hanging out along with few guys from the states. I met the following mongers: Angry Pirate, Orange, and Ciao Ciao Ciao at he bar. These guys are truly class act and was willing to help me learn the ropes in MDE. Ciao introduced me to Aguardiente. I was taking shots along with the girls and I remember ordering 2 pints along with multiple orders from Ciao. We drank like a fish and there were more girls coming in. After few hours I took one of the girls to my room and had a fantastic sex. The sex was really great and I had a great time with her. Unfortunately I forgot her name! I paid her the standard 150000.00 and 10000 for taxi (She asked for taxi money, it's beyond me why they ask for taxi money when I gave her 150000 in pesos). I took a shower after she was gone and went to sleep.
I woke up with no head ache and I went down to the kitchen to get breakfast. I had scrambled eggs and french toast. After breakfast I met up with Orange and we went to check out the Ovenida mall. It was fun hanging out with Orange and see his frustrations on getting his phone fixed. He had to go to 3 different claro stores 4 different times but his phone was still not activated! I bought some water and juice for my room and we decided to go to NEW LIFE casa. It is easy to call a taxi from the mansion. They have a phone strictly to call taxi and the taxi company knows where you are calling from. Even if you don't know Spanish, they will find you.
New Life had about 15 girls which I would Phuck about 8 of them. I picked a nice chica with some nice round booty and DD boobs. It was a great session. I took her for 45 minutes and rate was 50000. 00. Even though I don't speak Spanish, I had a great time and she gave me her phone number along withe face book. I took the info but tossed it since I won't be able to have any conversation. I gave her 10K tip also.
Orange also had a great time with a girl named Pamela and we both enjoyed NEW LIFE very much. After this we decided to go eat lunch and relax a little bit. I was dead tired and I needed a nice long sleep. I should have gone to bed early on Sunday but didn't happen. Anyway I went back to my room to nap but after a shower I couldn't fall asleep. I caught up on some work and around 6 PM Orange and I decided to go to New Life again. We both didn't like the line up and decided to check out some strip clubs. We went to Centro and checked out Barra Ejecutivo and their sister club next door. We stayed there for few hours and drank some Aguardiente. We both ended up picking a chica and had a session. It was 65K for about 30 to 40 mins. After getting back to the hotel around 11:00 PM we ordered some food in. It was Oranges last night in MDE and he decided to hang out in the bar and I went to sleep.
I woke up early on Tuesday and felt so refreshed. I should have done this on Sunday night! After breakfast Orange and I decided to go to New Life again since there weren't any chicas around the Mansion. Orange and I had another session we both really liked it. I think everyone should check out New Life at least once. Orange left for the airport and I went to get lunch.
After lunch I was hanging out the pool and I met Geraldine and we decided to go out to the bars to drink. We went to a bar and started drinking Aguardiente. We finished 3 pints and had a great time. We were about to leave but I met a guy from NY at the bar. We decided to order some more Aguardiente and went crazy on it. We bought 4 more pints and I drank like a fish. I got really drunk and we decided to eat and get back to the hotel. My friend stays in an apartment so he had to pay 50K to hang out at the Mansion bar. He decided against it and I was too drunk to go out again. Geraldine and I decided to go back to my room. I was too drunk to do anything so I told her to leave and gave her 75K. I went to sleep.
I woke up with a terrible head ache around 9:00 AM and decided to go back to bed. I woke up again around 11:00 AM and felt good. Breakfast was over by this time and I saw Geraldine walking in. Geraldine offered to order some Sushi in and I was really hungry. Geraldine and I went to my room. I wanted to Phuck her but she was not in the mood, she was also hung over from last night. After eating lunch, she wanted to sleep. I let her sleep in my room and I went out to New Fantasy with a guy from Canada. Him and I had a great time there and we both enjoyed it a lot.
We came back around 4:00 PM and Geraldine was by the pool when I got back. She asked me if I went to Phuck, and I said yes. She laughed and told me that it was her birthday Thursday and get her some gift. I told her that I will get something for her later but didn't get the opportunity. Anyway I decided to call my friend from NY and we decided to hang out. I went to his apartment which was 17K taxi ride from Mansion. We went to check out some casas but didn't really like the choices they had. We ended up in New Fantasy also but didn't pick anyone. They were about to close! After this we went to Barra Ejecutivo strip club in Centro. I wanted to Phuck a girl I saw Monday night, but she wasn't available. We hung out there and drank 3 pints of Aguardiente. I ended up picking a girl and had a great session. After this I wanted to get some local food at a local restaurant. We took a taxi and my friend speaks great Spanish. The taxi driver took us to a local restaurant and I gave him 20K for taxi ride. He came inside to the restaurant and we told him that he can go back and we will catch another taxi from there! I asked him for change and he went back to the cab to get change but the asshole took off. He owed me 12K back! This is the only time I was ripped off, but it was maybe because of my fault. I should have had a smaller bill! I didn't care for 5 bucks!
We both had some soup and some local dish. It was great and I loved every second of the experience! After dinner we decided to go to Liquid Lounge! It was great hanging out at the lounge. Lounge looked awesome with many girls. There were about 8 guys who were staying at the Mansion and about 15 girls. I picked a girl who was not a mansion girl and she was lot of fun. My friend was talking to Sophia a Mansion chica. We had a blast and after a while Monica from the mansion also joined our group. We decided to call it a night and went back to the mansion bar. I had to pay 50K for my friend to join us for drinks. After a while we retired to my room upstairs and all of us ended up having sex in my room. It was a Phuck fest and we had so much fun. The girls were in to each other so much that they were having a blast. It was fun getting sucked off while kissing another girls boobs. Monic and Sophia and my girl were so much fun. It was the first time for my girl to be in a situation like this. She was reluctant at first but eased up after Monica took charge! I think Sophie was more in to girls than the guys! It was such a great time and another friend from Canada decided to join our party after his girl went home! He had a great time with Monica and after hours of phucking and kissing we all decided to call it a night. It was around 6:00 AM and I had my driver picking me up at 8:00 AM. I paid my girl $100 USD and 20K for taxi. My friend from Canada decided to take Monica and Sophia to his room and continued the party.
I packed and went to sleep for about 1.5 hours. After breakfast I took off to the airport around 8:30 AM.
It was a great first time trip. I had so much fun. It would have been a lot better trip if I had known Spanish. It's a must while visiting MDE. Nobody seems to know English there! The girls are so hot in MDE. 90% of the girls were super hot! I never been in a country that has this many beautiful girls around. Mansion is a great place to stay if you don't know Spanish, but if you know or are with friends that speak Spanish it maybe better and cheaper to stay in a different place. My friends from Canada got an apartment close by for only 125K per night. They said the place was great! The Mansion Chicas has a set rate of 150K for couple of hours and they won't do BBBJ even though all three of my encounters were different. I had both Sophia and Monica suck me off without rubber. Most Mansion chicas are hot but there were some butt ugly girls. There were few girls that had no boobs or ass! WTF! I guess if you have a fantasy of phucking 12 years olds, they will do just fine! Liquid Lounge is a great place to hang out and have drinks if you are in town. You could meet many non Mansion chicas there also! Liquid Lounge needs to have some air conditioning or fans. It was way too hot to hang out there on Wednesday night! Also, all Mansion girls are visiting Liquid Lounge at night. I am not sure what's the point staying at the Mansion anymore! Mansion will be happy to shut down the bar if there is a big party at Liquid Lounge. They both have same owners! I would love to visit MDE again but not without either learning to speak Spanish or without friends who doesn't speak Spanish.
BlancoVikingo
11-14-13, 11:01
Individual choice. I have been going out with paisas, costenas, before that Peruanas, Argentinas. It has not been a problem for them to meet a foreigner, but for sure many girls might avoid it, but it I sence that people regard it's a girls personal freedom to choose company (within certain limits of course).
I have been invited to have dinner with their familes over the years, working class, middle class. We have been going to restuarants, movies, Teatro Metropolitano etc. In general terms it should not be a problem.
The stigma in US / Europe bring home a latina or Thai girl is a lot worse for both him and her.
Excellent post and a wealth of info. Thanks Dmd Joe!
The part you mentioned about Paisas not wanting to be seen with foreigners had been said many times. It is why chicas go to Cartagena to hook (away from family) , and why Liquid Lounge has to bring chicas in from out of town. None of the paisas except for current and former mansion girls would be caught dead going into LL. All it takes is for one friend or family member to see her going in or coming out of there for her to get labeled as a puta.
And yes, these girls are not looking for a White Knight to come and whisk them away from Medellin. They love their city. Smoke Cripa, drink guaro, and party all day and night with friends and family. Why would she give that up to come and live with some lonely-ass gringo in America? Hell, look at us: most of us (mongers) are trying to get the fuck out of here (sex prison) , LOL!
Muy Bien! Thanks for this over view. This should be anchored to the top of every page! That's how much I agree with it!
Questions. What is this place in Bello called? Number or Addy? Is it worth it? Bello is a hike and with traffic it could be an hour plus in camino. Good call on Loutron. 2-4 years agao for $150-$180K I think it was you could get a 10. A solid 10 every time and there was 12+ of them. Now like you said 6s and 7s with a few 8's. Chunky girls IMO but if you like thicker chicks.
The Sunday "Bonner" run. Oh man! That is one of my favorite things to do in Medellin. You always hear guys ask about regular girls? Well here is about 5, 000 of them all in yoga pants. Yoga pants! Also I'd like to point out (because most members here have no game or clue) Good girls exercise and wake up on Sundays. Skanks are sleeping off a bender or walking home from the Mansion! Hahah!
This brings me to your point perfect assessment of "Regular Girls" in Colombia. The girls here are very conscience of appearance and their "rep". No decent, upper middle strata Colombian girl wants to be seen as a prepago. What you said; Mr. Nail meet Mr. Hammer. If you don't Speak Spanish and do not live there, have a trip longer than 2 weeks, or intend to come a few times the regular girl path might be closed to you.
DUE the Poker game place? I was there one night (up stairs?) like 4 years ago. A cabbie brought me and I had an amazing session with this girl with the best real ever! She was 19, 5'6" and I mean like porn star Angel Dark quality boobies.
Thanks again for the report!Just for the record I think this Blowhard is depressing. When will the Colombian board cleanse it self of these occasional self righteous asses? On the other boards guys don't have a need to constantly insult the women of the country they monger in. There are no skanks in the Mansion, only a few ugly fucks w / money who think they're better then the hookers they drool over. Then when these small hearted dudes are finished they bad mouth the chicas behind their backs. I think it's classless and low. Sorry but I can't put it any other way, it's low.
SlamCity7777
11-14-13, 14:12
Just for the record I think this Blowhard is depressing. When will the Colombian board cleanse it self of these occasional self righteous asses? On the other boards guys don't have a need to constantly insult the women of the country they monger in. There are no skanks in the Mansion, only a few ugly fucks w / money who think they're better then the hookers they drool over. Then when these small hearted dudes are finished they bad mouth the chicas behind their backs. I think it's classless and low. Sorry but I can't put it any other way, it's low.Yo! Slow your roll cowboy! You got it twisted! I'm not going flame you. Just the opposite I'm going to agree with you and then clarify my previous post.
1) Yes I agree with you and have MANY times said the same thing about." the Mansion, only a few ugly fucks w / money who think they're better then the hookers they drool over. Then when these small hearted dudes are finished they bad mouth the chicas behind their backs.". Yo check my posts; I stand behind what I said and feel about this. What I call the "Parque Llegres Juan Valdez Abuelo Team" does this and its the undeserved ego trippers and most importantly how they treat the girls that rubs me the wrong way. So yes I agree with you. Always have, always will, I'm the king of "don't be cheap" philosophy.
2) Clearly you are taking my use of "skanks to refer to the mansion girls" to heart and I guess it hit too close to home for you. What evers. Be butt hurt if you like but it was a joke and used to illustrate the difference between meeting a girl in the club or at the mansion (GFE) vs meeting a girl out on a run or fun day out side early on a Sunday (real person x actual GFE). Also to drive home the point that the Sunday Av Poblado event is a great place to meet the elusive "Regular girl" that so many guys want to talk about and lust after.
It was a joke. I've explained myself and that's it. When I was in the Monger Games more I always kept it real. Propinaas for good service PLUS cab money. The girls had much love and respect because I showed them that L & R. Karma by definition. I was told my propinas were almost as much as the chichipato abuelos wanted to pay in full. Not because I was a noob, not because I was a chump, not because I was trying to "ruin it" for the next guy, not because I wanted to "spoil" the girls. I did it because I wanted to, because IMO they earned it with the quality of service and time spent, ect. And because I knew that the extra 15-20K DID change their monthly bottom line and truth be told that made me feel good to see how grateful they were for the kind gesture. The horror stories I've been told. Don't get me wrong. IF a chica is suspect and the service crap she getting a bag full of coins and a foot in the booty! Hahaha!
At Shocker,
There is no apology here nor was one ever implied. I don't owe you shit! Check my history. I've done nothing but hate on the cheap guys who treat the girls like crap and then laughed about it for years! I was even scolded by some of the OG heads for hating on the Haters so much! Hahahah!
Just for the record I think this Blowhard is depressing. When will the Colombian board cleanse it self of these occasional self righteous asses? On the other boards guys don't have a need to constantly insult the women of the country they monger in. There are no skanks in the Mansion, only a few ugly fucks w / money who think they're better then the hookers they drool over. Then when these small hearted dudes are finished they bad mouth the chicas behind their backs. I think it's classless and low. Sorry but I can't put it any other way, it's low.I agree. Its one thing to give reports of girls who give bad service. Its another thing to go around insulting women and calling them "skanks." If this reflects how he treats the girls, I would not be surprised if I did a search and found that most of his posts are complaining about girls.
I visited the Mansion recently, and it was the first time that I was in a setting to socialize with other "world travellers." Most of the guys were cool, but there were definitely some who I would just listen to them talk and be thinking "oookaay. I am going to get another beer."
Just for the record I think this Blowhard is depressing. When will the Colombian board cleanse it self of these occasional self righteous asses? On the other boards guys don't have a need to constantly insult the women of the country they monger in. There are no skanks in the Mansion, only a few ugly fucks w / money who think they're better then the hookers they drool over. Then when these small hearted dudes are finished they bad mouth the chicas behind their backs. I think it's classless and low. Sorry but I can't put it any other way, it's low.Hey Socker,
Traveling, exploring, meeting locals and fellow adventurers, meeting girls, making love to beautiful girls, etc, etc is what makes life fun.
The ISG is simply a forum to post and read up on other guys' adventures, experiences and advice.
It's a nice site, especially when new, to find 'the places' to go and to avoid.
I've been posting and reading on this site for years.
There will ALWAYS be posters who come and go that are either arrogant, ignorant, inconsiderate, know-it-all, etc, etc.
No big deal.
Just laugh it off and ignore.
I'm not referring to any poster in particular, as they come and go.
Enjoy life, as we all know, it zips by quickly. 😄
Hey Socker,
Traveling, exploring, meeting locals and fellow adventurers, meeting girls, making love to beautiful girls, etc, etc is what makes life fun.
The ISG is simply a forum to post and read up on other guys' adventures, experiences and advice.
It's a nice site, especially when new, to find 'the places' to go and to avoid.
I've been posting and reading on this site for years.
There will ALWAYS be posters who come and go that are either arrogant, ignorant, inconsiderate, know-it-all, etc, etc.
No big deal.
Just laugh it off and ignore.
I'm not referring to any poster in particular, as they come and go.
Enjoy life, as we all know, it zips by quickly. &62980; I love mongering and I love the women who make mongering possible and everyone here should have a similar view. If you don't respect these hookers (fine) then move on. Why? They're hookers because we want them to be hookers, that's why. Look in the mirror, the problem (if you have one) IS YOU!
If I had my way there'd be a 50' statue of Greg, Robert and Boyd on Poblado Avenido (next to the Oviedo Mall). That's what I think of the Hotel Medellin Plaza. It is a gift from the gods. There is no more accurate way to put it then that, a gift from the gods. I would donate a couple hun for the statue, no hesitation.
The comments that were made were ludicrous and beyond exaggeration, a flat out lie. They were offensive to any monger w / integrity and half a brain. The,"I was only joking" rational is horses hit. I would respect someone who can admit a mistake, misstatement, or frustrated w / other aspects of life and needed to vent. The "I was only joking" excuse is a huge stretch and one I can't respect so nothing more need be said by me on that. Some people cannot be reasoned w / and so good luck to them, I hope they find their way.
The mansion opened up the world of intense, fresh, young beauties for many many mongers and I am one. These women are not Miss Universe caliber but they are close, I am so thankful to be able to look into their eyes and give them everything I got. They are magnificent creatures to touch and see up close, very close. We are very lucky to be alive right now and have this time and experience in Colombia.
Maybe in the future this guy (and the like) can put forth the great info and stories (they have) and leave out the attacks on other mongers and the beautiful hookers we want to be with. That's the goal here, the general attacks will not stand w / me, I just can't be silent.
This is the funny joke? To Whom is it funny? Apparently he doesn't think much of MOST other guys or the Mansion Girl Freelancers.
>>>>Also I'd like to point out (because most members here have no game or clue) Good girls exercise and wake up on Sundays. Skanks are sleeping off a bender or walking home from the Mansion! Hahah! <<<<<
SavePros321
11-15-13, 00:40
It was a great first time trip. I had so much fun. It would have been a lot better trip if I had known Spanish. It's a must while visiting MDE. Nobody seems to know English there! The girls are so hot in MDE. 90% of the girls were super hot! I never been in a country that has this many beautiful girls around. Mansion is a great place to stay if you don't know Spanish, but if you know or are with friends that speak Spanish it maybe better and cheaper to stay in a different place. My friends from Canada got an apartment close by for only 125K per night. They said the place was great! The Mansion Chicas has a set rate of 150K for couple of hours and they won't do BBBJ even though all three of my encounters were different. I had both Sophia and Monica suck me off without rubber.Thanks for the report! As many of us have reported, learning Spanish will GREATLY enhance your experience with chicas while visiting Medellin. For newbies, the Mansion is the best route to go. But:
Most Mansion chicas are hot but there were some butt ugly girls. There were few girls that had no boobs or ass! WTF! I guess if you have a fantasy of phucking 12 years olds, they will do just fine!As you can also see, the place can be hit or miss depending on the time frame of your visit. I can tell you right now that the owners prefer rail-thin chicas, so if you are looking for variety be prepared to hit the casas or the MFPN.
Liquid Lounge is a great place to hang out and have drinks if you are in town. You could meet many non Mansion chicas there also! Liquid Lounge needs to have some air conditioning or fans. It was way too hot to hang out there on Wednesday night! Also, all Mansion girls are visiting Liquid Lounge at night. I am not sure what's the point staying at the Mansion anymore! Mansion will be happy to shut down the bar if there is a big party at Liquid Lounge. They both have same owners! I would love to visit MDE again but not without either learning to speak Spanish or without friends who doesn't speak Spanish.I think the owner of LL already addressed the air conditioning issue, but I will let him speak on it himself.
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SlamCity7777
11-15-13, 04:06
I agree. Its one thing to give reports of girls who give bad service. Its another thing to go around insulting women and calling them "skanks." If this reflects how he treats the girls, I would not be surprised if I did a search and found that most of his posts are complaining about girls.
I visited the Mansion recently, and it was the first time that I was in a setting to socialize with other "world travellers." Most of the guys were cool, but there were definitely some who I would just listen to them talk and be thinking "oookaay. I am going to get another beer."Instead of just chirping your. 2 cents and running your mouth search my posts and see my main points. Don't be cheap, treat the girls nice, learn Spanish. And a ton of complaining about the guys who treat the girls like crap. Let me ask you. What the heck you ever done round here? Who you ever help out? I might have had beef recently with certain subjects, word choice, ect but I contribute to the community and that is what this board is all about. What you done?
At Shocker. Grow up. Think and write what ever you need to do to make yourself feel like the man you wish you were and never could be. You're time has come and gone and you must feel hollow, empty, like the true definition of a failure because you have nothing to show for all if this; save your self righteous-self serving ego monster and the smug feeling you get coming here to ISG and being a big shot on every board. Clap Clap Clap. Well done sir!
I've tracked a few of your posts and it's true. You are a classic form / message board hard guy, It's past 8:30 so chances are a man of your clearly declining mental faculties, advanced age, and fragile ego must already be in bed.
Flame on if you like. I'll be the bigger man (clearly the better too) and leave this alone.
To infringe on a OG members sign off. Kill them with kindness.
Thank you Savepros for reading my post. Yes, the air condition issue has been fixed since my visit. The owner is a very cool guy and he responded to me right away on my original post.
I love mongering and I love the women who make mongering possible and everyone here should have a similar view. If you don't respect these hookers (fine) then move on. Why? They're hookers because we want them to be hookers, that's why. Look in the mirror, the problem (if you have one) IS YOU!
If I had my way there'd be a 50' statue of Greg, Robert and Boyd on Poblado Avenido (next to the Oviedo Mall). That's what I think of the Hotel Medellin Plaza. It is a gift from the gods. There is no more accurate way to put it then that, a gift from the gods. I would donate a couple hun for the statue, no hesitation.
The mansion opened up the world of intense, fresh, young beauties for many many mongers and I am one. These women are not Miss Universe caliber but they are close, I am so thankful to be able to look into their eyes and give them everything I got. They are magnificent creatures to touch and see up close, very close. We are very lucky to be alive right now and have this time and experience in Colombia.
<<<<<+1.
I stayed at the Mansion last December and had the time of my life. The girls at the Mansion were great and the vibe at this place is just fantastic. I met lots of great bros during my stay who offered helpful tips and even took me around! The staff at the Mansion are very helpful too. It was just fantastic! Hope to visit again soon.
But then if some asshole at the club steals your phone from your hip while you are drunk and running your hand along that paisa's leg, then you are have lost your primary phone and are screwed.
I have 2 other travel phones that cover me for the major international bandwidths. I bought one in Peru and one in the PI, each for about $25 WITH a sim card. When phones are that cheap, there is no point in risking carrying around your primary phone. I think that's just stupid.And I think it's just stupid to let someone steal your phone.
Thank you Savepros for reading my post. Yes, the air condition issue has been fixed since my visit. The owner is a very cool guy and he responded to me right away on my original post.Yes, we did install an airconditioner, but we still need more ventilation near the bar especially when there are lots of people. In fact Jackson the owner of this board was at Liquid a few weeks ago, and suggested installing fans on the walls. We will do that soon.
And thanks for the kind words Kuttappan. Really glad you enjoyed yourself.
Member #4244
11-15-13, 14:53
Too much humor on all sides of this exchange. Maybe my favorite was "they aren't Mr Universe quality, but they are close."
Perhaps in the way that me getting the high score on an arcade Pop-a-Shot basketball game is "close" to breaking Kareem Abdul Jabbar's NBA career scoring record.
Instead of just chirping your. 2 cents and running your mouth search my posts and see my main points. Don't be cheap, treat the girls nice, learn Spanish. And a ton of complaining about the guys who treat the girls like crap. Let me ask you. What the heck you ever done round here? Who you ever help out? I might have had beef recently with certain subjects, word choice, ect but I contribute to the community and that is what this board is all about. What you done?
At Shocker. Grow up. Think and write what ever you need to do to make yourself feel like the man you wish you were and never could be. You're time has come and gone and you must feel hollow, empty, like the true definition of a failure because you have nothing to show for all if this; save your self righteous-self serving ego monster and the smug feeling you get coming here to ISG and being a big shot on every board. Clap Clap Clap. Well done sir!
I've tracked a few of your posts and it's true. You are a classic form / message board hard guy, It's past 8:30 so chances are a man of your clearly declining mental faculties, advanced age, and fragile ego must already be in bed.
Flame on if you like. I'll be the bigger man (clearly the better too) and leave this alone.
To infringe on a OG members sign off. Kill them with kindness.So let me get this straight. You go on a tirade like that, then say that you are being the bigger man and dropping it? Please.
My response was not meant to be a direct personal attack, as yours clearly was.
You need to check yourself.
And I think it's just stupid to let someone steal your phone.Because, of course, you are Superman and immune to petty theft. Nice.
It may not even be theft. Sometimes I just lose accidently lose things, don't you?
Maybe you are retired and not working or something. Or maybe your whole life just revolves around messaging and facebooking chicas all day long. Those of us in the modern world invest a lot of our personal and work efforts into our phone. All I am saying is that it helps to have a spare, disposable phone when you are vacationing out of the country and don't necessarily need access to your primary phone.
I have a soft corner for this place, though it is not as popular as some of the other clubs. I keep going back here as the staff here treat me well and I had some gems here. I have only done take out here so I can't speak for the quality of the rooms.
Sofia.21, great figure, all natural, has a 3 yr old but can't tell. She is a blanca. I like her energy though she can get annoying for someone who likes his girls to just shut up and fuck :-D. Standard take out price for Luna and the 250 for the girl for TLN.
Kelly: She is 19, a bit more voluptuous than I like but has a cute face. She is super friendly (mui amiable). Same pricing as above but stayed till 9 AM the next day as she does not have a kid at home.
I think I want to cry after reading this. It is intense love going on in this post. LmaoYeah, I lost it a bit! It's just those bodies down there are so fucking nice!
I'm better today. Jaja
All I am saying is that it helps to have a spare, disposable phone when you are vacationing out of the country and don't necessarily need access to your primary phone.But that's NOT all you said. You said it's stupid to carry you primary phone. Maybe it's not the best strategy for you, but for many people it's simply not a big deal.
Too much humor on all sides of this exchange. Maybe my favorite was "they aren't Mr Universe quality, but they are close."
Perhaps in the way that me getting the high score on an arcade Pop-a-Shot basketball game is "close" to breaking Kareem Abdul Jabbar's NBA career scoring record.I have my opinion and you have yours. Unlike your opinions of the Colombian women, I don't generalize in a negative way. So enjoy all the humor bro, you have some similarities w / SC.
And by the way, you're welcome for the pics I recently sent your way.
Just you know. From a smart phone all data can be automatically uploaded to a cloud service and you can erase your phone and do a factory default reset over a computer. You could loose or someone can steal your phone in your home country also. I am not saying your idea is a stupid idea or anything though!
Because, of course, you are Superman and immune to petty theft. Nice.
It may not even be theft. Sometimes I just lose accidently lose things, don't you?
Maybe you are retired and not working or something. Or maybe your whole life just revolves around messaging and facebooking chicas all day long. Those of us in the modern world invest a lot of our personal and work efforts into our phone. All I am saying is that it helps to have a spare, disposable phone when you are vacationing out of the country and don't necessarily need access to your primary phone.
But that's NOT all you said. You said it's stupid to carry you primary phone. Maybe it's not the best strategy for you, but for many people it's simply not a big deal.You are taking that sentence out of context. But yes, if you are carrying around a $600 phone on your hip, while partying drunk in a foreign country where you are a target because you are a foreigner, I think that's a stupid risk. Look, you can if you want to. I just don't understand why people do. You can get a cheap phone and a sim for $20. Unless you are trying to show your bling, it just makes no sense. And if your only defense is "well I just choose to and don't tell me what to do," well then, your stubborn argumentativeness just speaks for itself. Way to go, bro (clap, clap).
SavePros321
11-15-13, 23:58
I have a soft corner for this place, though it is not as popular as some of the other clubs. I keep going back here as the staff here treat me well and I had some gems here. I have only done take out here so I can't speak for the quality of the rooms.
Sofia.21, great figure, all natural, has a 3 yr old but can't tell. She is a blanca. I like her energy though she can get annoying for someone who likes his girls to just shut up and fuck :-D. Standard take out price for Luna and the 250 for the girl for TLN.
Kelly: She is 19, a bit more voluptuous than I like but has a cute face. She is super friendly (mui amiable). Same pricing as above but stayed till 9 AM the next day as she does not have a kid at home.Thanks for the info Vitrea. Quick question: If the fee for the chica is 250K, what is your strategy (if any) for making sure that once you get her to your apartment she doesn't try to upsell you for BBBJ? Or is the 250K for CBJ? Doesn't seem like there is much negotiating room around that price, especially if you are already paying 100K to the house as an exit fee.
Thanks for the info Vitrea. Quick question: If the fee for the chica is 250K, what is your strategy (if any) for making sure that once you get her to your apartment she doesn't try to upsell you for BBBJ? Or is the 250K for CBJ? Doesn't seem like there is much negotiating room around that price, especially if you are already paying 100K to the house as an exit fee.I thought the take out for Luna was 150k? I don't remember. I always call them out for another day.
BBBJ is not standard anywhere in Medellin. Except HMP. Make sure you specify in advance if that is what you want. Also make sure you specify until what time TLN is. For some, especially with kids, that's 6am! 250k is not a standard price either. It can be more or less depending on your negotiating skills.
Member #4244
11-16-13, 02:06
I have my opinion and you have yours. Unlike your opinions of the Colombian women, I don't generalize in a negative way. So enjoy all the humor bro, you have some similarities w / SC.
And by the way, you're welcome for the pics I recently sent your way.
I apologize. However, I think it was pretty clear I was joking. If we are going to talk about negative generalizations, I think you have a handful, especially about women in the western world. As you said, we are all entitled to our opinions and I enjoy reading yours even where we may differ.
I did not check that account but I certainly will now! Thank you in advance for the pics. I will return the favor and not leave you hanging! I hope we can relax a bit and keep exchanging pics, info, etc. For my part, almost everything is in jest here.
Member #4244
11-16-13, 02:13
You are taking that sentence out of context. But yes, if you are carrying around a $600 phone on your hip, while partying drunk in a foreign country where you are a target because you are a foreigner, I think that's a stupid risk. Look, you can if you want to. I just don't understand why people do. You can get a cheap phone and a sim for $20. Unless you are trying to show your bling, it just makes no sense. And if your only defense is "well I just choose to and don't tell me what to do," well then, your stubborn argumentativeness just speaks for itself. Way to go, bro (clap, clap).I understood what you meant, Manny, and I agree. I never carry my phone from back home here, I get a cheap little Crackberry (iPro LOL) or something that works for everything I need but is a $40 piece of junk I could lose in a cab, forget somewhere, have stolen, etc. What is the point of carrying an iPhone or a Note or something like that here? If I need to be that connected to life away from here, then I am doing something wrong!
That doesn't mean someone who wants to do that is prohibited from doing it, I just think it's sound advice to consider.
SavePros321
11-16-13, 02:40
I understood what you meant, Manny, and I agree. I never carry my phone from back home here, I get a cheap little Crackberry (iPro LOL) or something that works for everything I need but is a $40 piece of junk I could lose in a cab, forget somewhere, have stolen, etc. What is the point of carrying an iPhone or a Note or something like that here? If I need to be that connected to life away from here, then I am doing something wrong!I have an unlocked palm-sized quad-band Samsung cell phone that I bought from Amazon for cheap. I do bring my unlocked iPhone, but it never leaves my apartment. The reason I bring it along is because trying to text with a chica from the palm-sized Samsung phone is a biyatch! The iPhone gets the job done a lot faster (especially when using FB Messenger or Whatsapp) , but again, it never leaves the apartment and immediately goes into the safe when my chica arrives.
Thanks for the info Vitrea. Quick question: If the fee for the chica is 250K, what is your strategy (if any) for making sure that once you get her to your apartment she doesn't try to upsell you for BBBJ? Or is the 250K for CBJ? Doesn't seem like there is much negotiating room around that price, especially if you are already paying 100K to the house as an exit fee.Excellent points:
First, Just to be accurate, the stated exit fee at Luna is 150 and is negotiable to 120 and which is what I paid. For the mongers that are interested, FYI the exit fee at Fase is 170 and at La Isla is 180 and I was not able to negotiate a lower fee at the later two places before.
Services: I am usually very upfront with what I want from the girl and I agree for TLN only if I am completely satisfied that the girl would deliver. All of us want different things. BBBJ is less important for me. Two pops and preferably one in the morning is more important. I also like the girl to stay till at least 6 AM, ideally till 8 or 9 AM. That is mostly because I do not want to wake up at 4 or 5 AM just to let her out as it is hard for me to go to back to sleep and as a result, it ruins my next day. So, I negotiate more about those priorities.
When I do TLN, at Fase 2, La Isla, Energy and Lutron, I take a shower before sex and that I find improves my odds of BBBJ.
I love MDE.
SavePros321
11-16-13, 03:33
Services: I am usually very upfront with what I want from the girl and I agree for TLN only if I am completely satisfied that the girl would deliver. All of us want different things. BBBJ is less important for me. Two pops and preferably one in the morning is more important. I also like the girl to stay till at least 6 AM, ideally till 8 or 9 AM. That is mostly because I do not want to wake up at 4 or 5 AM just to let her out as it is hard for me to go to back to sleep and as a result, it ruins my next day. So, I negotiate more about those priorities.
When I do TLN, at Fase 2, La Isla, Energy and Lutron, I take a shower before sex and that I find improves my odds of BBBJ.All very good pointers, and thanks for sharing. I am still of the "take'them for a test drive first" (ST) crowd, but I would guess that with your chicas it would probably not be unrealistic to say that if you give them repeated service they will eventually open up to "extras" (BBBJ, GFE). At least that's been my experience.
SavePros321
11-16-13, 03:35
Just saw the new newsletter from La Cueva:
"on a sad side note. We want to wish Medellin Bob the best. It was a good decade. We'll miss you."
Does anyone happen to know what this is all about?
I apologize. However, I think it was pretty clear I was joking. If we are going to talk about negative generalizations, I think you have a handful, especially about women in the western world. As you said, we are all entitled to our opinions and I enjoy reading yours even where we may differ.
I did not check that account but I certainly will now! Thank you in advance for the pics. I will return the favor and not leave you hanging! I hope we can relax a bit and keep exchanging pics, info, etc. For my part, almost everything is in jest here.Wilt, I'm relaxed and I appreciate the positive reports you put forth. I don't have any illusions about our hobby in Colombia (of which I know a little) , I know the working girls are mercenaries but they are all different in this respect. Since I have never sold my body or time to the opposite sex I know nothing of their strategies, dos and don'ts. They have a real tough job and I have been on both sides of issues w / them. I have been screwed over and have inadvertently screwed them over. It doesn't matter whether intended or not, shit happens.
It doesn't mean all mongers are fucked and it doesn't mean all hookers are fucked it just means shit happens. Move on and keep a positive view about things. As for women in general (western women that is) I've been studying them for 55 years and I have a pretty good idea of what's going on w / them. If you're under 40/45 you haven't been around long enough to see the truth, I / e reality. I would bet money right now that in 20 years it will be illegal in California to obviously look at a woman's breast. It will be illegal to swear in a public place or to your spouse.
Right now if your woman gets mad at you and hits you, you better not touch her, I / e restrain her. If her arms have a bruise you will go to jail for a few days and then a year of, Anger Management School every (fucking) week!
I unfortunately live in SF CA,"the epicenter of political correctness". My city government is run by women and gays and frankly I am suffocating under their repression. I don't want a negative view or opinion but I can't lie to myself about the reality I face. I will adapt or leave my hometown. The transplants in city hall are dictators of common sense. You either think the way they do or your fucked. Hello Prozac!
So I don't generalize, especially in the negative. Don't get me wrong I am happier than a pitbull w / a toy poodle hanging from it's mouth. Latin America is how North America used to be 30 yrs. Ago, a free place, it is my sanctuary.
Wilt, we're buddies.
FruitNinja
11-16-13, 05:38
Just saw the new newsletter from La Cueva:
"on a sad side note. We want to wish Medellin Bob the best. It was a good decade. We'll miss you."
Does anyone happen to know what this is all about?I heard that the UN designated his genitals nuclear. They are presently negotiating a non-proliferation agreement. Seems they sent the Secret Service to do the work so it may take some time.
Another rumor has him replacing Matt.
http://www.wherethehellismatt.com/
Just saw the new newsletter from La Cueva:
"on a sad side note. We want to wish Medellin Bob the best. It was a good decade. We'll miss you."
Does anyone happen to know what this is all about?Interesting, I'll have to give him a call and see whats up.
Hope he's leaving on a good note though.
Surprising for sure.
My opinion about this example is the $600 cost of the phone is not as important as the words "on your hip." Don't flash it, keep it in your pocket and be sensible about where and when you use it. It's no different than six one hundred dollar bills. In your wallet they won't attract much attention but if passersby can see it they could get ideas.
You are taking that sentence out of context. But yes, if you are carrying around a $600 phone on your hip, while partying drunk in a foreign country where you are a target because you are a foreigner, I think that's a stupid risk. Look, you can if you want to. I just don't understand why people do. You can get a cheap phone and a sim for $20. Unless you are trying to show your bling, it just makes no sense. And if your only defense is "well I just choose to and don't tell me what to do," well then, your stubborn argumentativeness just speaks for itself. Way to go, bro (clap, clap).
You are taking that sentence out of context. But yes, if you are carrying around a $600 phone on your hip, while partying drunk in a foreign country where you are a target because you are a foreigner, I think that's a stupid risk. Look, you can if you want to. I just don't understand why people do. You can get a cheap phone and a sim for $20. Unless you are trying to show your bling, it just makes no sense. And if your only defense is "well I just choose to and don't tell me what to do," well then, your stubborn argumentativeness just speaks for itself. Way to go, bro (clap, clap).No you're the one that takes things out of context. I never implied "I just choose to, and don't tell me what to do" You just made that up. I simply thought your comment that people are stupid for carrying smartphones was very simplistic. What makes you so sure everyone is partying drunk all the time. I never do. It is NOT a stupid risk. It is a good calculated risk for many of us because of the many benefits of having it with us. I simply said if it is too much of a risk for you, then don't do, but don't say that anyone who does is stupid.
My opinion about this example is the $600 cost of the phone is not as important as the words "on your hip." Don't flash it, keep it in your pocket and be sensible about where and when you use it. It's no different than six one hundred dollar bills. In your wallet they won't attract much attention but if passersby can see it they could get ideas.Exactly.
Though I must apologize to Manny for overreacting and saying it's stupid to allow your phone to be stolen. Obviously that could happen to anyone. I do however stand by the fact that it isn't in the least a stupid risk bringing one. I have brought mine on countless trips to Thailand, Colombia, and other dodgy locals, and have never had an issue. Many of us have to work on our smartphones while mongering, and the risks far outweigh the benefits. And it goes without saying that it's stupid to flash it around.
Someone visited Loutron in the last weeks and could give me a overview which kind of girls are available?
Have they black girls for example?
Thanks a lot!
Just saw the new newsletter from La Cueva:
"on a sad side note. We want to wish Medellin Bob the best. It was a good decade. We'll miss you."
Does anyone happen to know what this is all about?I'm pretty sure they were just announcing the end of Medellin Bob's "nom de guerre". He's at Liquid as we speak sharing in the degenerate Oil Wrestling Contest going on right now. I'll post a short clip as soon as I get it. Here's a quick clip of the Lesbian Show we had before. I had to cut out many of the good parts because they showed our customer's faces, and we will never do that. It's also a little cloudy because some idiot (me. Just HAD to play with our new smoke machine.
http://youtu.be/voIQ4MXEV4k
I'd love to read more about the pros and cons of carrying and using expensive cell phones in Colombia.
So titillating LOL.
It's all common sense stuff.
To each their own.
SavePros321
11-17-13, 04:29
I'm pretty sure they were just announcing the end of Medellin Bob's "nom de guerre". He's at Liquid as we speak sharing in the degenerate Oil Wrestling Contest going on right now.
noms de guerre (nm)
A fictitious name; a pseudonym
They were announcing the end of his fictitious name? I don't think you are using that word in the correct context. At least provide some useful info (on the original subject) intermingled with the shameless plug/promotion of your club, LOL.
This post is almost as bad as the one posted by Fruit Cake Ninja a few posts down.
If a friend is staying at the mansion is it possible to enter to visit him and have a drink at the bar?
noms de guerre (nm)
A fictitious name; a pseudonym
They were announcing the end of his fictitious name? I don't think you are using that word in the correct context. At least provide some useful info (on the original subject) intermingled with the shameless plug / promotion of your club, LOL.
This post is almost as bad as the one posted by Fruit Cake Ninja a few posts down.Gee SAP; what do you do, scour the internet for the improper use of English words? LOL Yes, a "nom de guerre" is a fictitious name. What's your point? The context I used was perfect. How is Medellin Bob not a fictitious name, although I used it "tongue in cheek"? My post is as useful as any post you've ever posted; not that that's saying much.
I guess I have no shame as I will continue to plug / promote Liquid to my hearts content. Here's more for your enjoyment.
SavePros321
11-17-13, 07:54
Gee SAP; what do you do, scour the internet for the improper use of English words? LOL Yes, a "nom de guerre" is a fictitious name. What's your point?The point is you jacked my post:
Just saw the new newsletter from La Cueva:
"on a sad side note. We want to wish Medellin Bob the best. It was a good decade. We'll miss you."
Does anyone happen to know what this is all about?To talk about nothing that has to do with anything related to the original question other than to use the opportunity to pimp your club:
I'm pretty sure they were just announcing the end of Medellin Bob's "nom de guerre". He's at Liquid as we speak sharing in the degenerate Oil Wrestling Contest going on right now. I'll post a short clip as soon as I get it. Here's a quick clip of the Lesbian Show we had before. And somehow I'm the one with the problem, LOL???
It was a simple question. Especially useful for current/future mansion guest who were interested in knowing why the La Cueva Newsletter had that blurb about Robert. If he is leaving, they may also wish to know the fate of La Cueva since Aussie Greg has stated that he has no vest interest (financially) in La Cueva.
Your Liquid Lounge, Strip, or whatever the name is now, could have been its own post. Ricker seemed to get it:
Interesting, I'll have to give him a call and see whats up.
Hope he's leaving on a good note though.
Surprising for sure.
He didn't use the opportunity to pimp his new upcoming book "São Paulo Mongering for Dummies".
SavePros321
11-17-13, 08:30
If a friend is staying at the mansion is it possible to enter to visit him and have a drink at the bar?They will not let you in. You have to be staying there as a guest in order to visit. Aussie Greg (the owner of Hotel Madellin Plaza 1, a*k*a the Mansion) has answered this question a few times here before. Look through his older posts for his explanation as to why.
I believe that if they are fully booked they will allow you to pay a 50k entry fee, but you will be ushered straight down into the bar and not allowed to venture elsewhere. I think senior member Vitrea has had experience with this (if it was not him who reported this first-hand experience then my mistake).
The point is you jacked my post:
To talk about nothing that has to do with anything related to the original question other than to use the opportunity to pimp your club:
And somehow I'm the one with the problem, LOL?
It was a simple question. Especially useful for current / future mansion guest who were interested in knowing why the La Cueva Newsletter had that blurb about Robert. If he is leaving, they may also wish to know the fate of La Cueva since Aussie Greg has stated that he has no vest interest (financially) in La Cueva.
Your Liquid Lounge, Strip, or whatever the name is now, could have been its own post. Ricker seemed to get it:
He didn't use the opportunity to pimp his new upcoming book "São Paulo Mongering for Dummies".Your logic is flawed as usual.
You asked if anyone knew what it was about and I certainly DID respond and answer the question. I told you the reason for the La Cueva report on Medellin Bob. Please tell me how that is not related to the original question. My response naturally segued into Robert currently being at Liquid. I'm really sorry I ruined your post by "jacking" it and, also plugging Liquid. I didn't realize how easily confused your are, and what a thin skin you have. I'll try to be more careful now that I know how sensitive you are.
Anyone know what happened to Geraldine? I tried to reach her since she poked me and got message saying page unavailable. I went to locate her on my friends list, she was there but when I tried to message her it said account deactivated.
Wooww What a telenovela here in the reports, hahaha sorry guys couldn't help it. Don't get mad, is just funny to see too many dudes fighting for any single little non sense.
If I was Ricker I would do it very diplomatic and enigmatically in a sutil sarcasm (I like that) , just like a "don't pay attention to me" comment.
But is Sunday and I'm bore, (yes I also have a lot of those days =) Is just funny see so many pantyhoses get rips off here for the phones or the Bobs or the decorations in my house, or the "fat btchs" who don't jog in the morning and my BF is cutier that yours. HAHAHA sorry I said it, this is going to be fun I guess =) , Jackson Bro, just this little one Ok? Hahaha
By the way: Somebody stoled my phone in a DiscoClub also, yess I'm an Idiot hahah, but let's not make a drama TV series out of it, That's what is FB for =))
SavePros321
11-17-13, 17:47
Anyone know what happened to Geraldine? I tried to reach her since she poked me and got message saying page unavailable. I went to locate her on my friends list, she was there but when I tried to message her it said account deactivated.In all seriousness bro, she probably either has a Colombian boyfriend (for now), or a gringo Western Union novio (for now). Possibly a combination of the two. She'll be back once the gringo gets tired of wiring her cash, or she breaks up with the Colombian novio. It happens all the time if you hang around facebook much.
Some chicas have even de-friended me in the past (as a way to shed ties to that "other life"), and a few months later re-sends me a friend request (signaling that she is back in the game and is ready to play).
Some leave the game and don't return, like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11JeXd2BoUo
I've heard she still plays on a very "limited" basis, but you have to know someone who knows someone, who knows her to get in contact with her:
She's out of the game on WU retainer by some gringo sucker. She still does everything, she just does it under the radar now. WU or not, these girls will earn when opportunity presents itself. Please don't PM me for contact info, I don't have any, but if you check her FB page you'll see a photo of her and her sucker
Don't set your sights on one particular chica. Have a good mix of ones you would like to see if plan A or plan B fall through the cracks. But this is just the internet side of things. The good news is that once you get to Medellin and surround yourself with hotties, you're going to be like "Geraldine who?".
Anyone know what happened to Geraldine? I tried to reach her since she poked me and got message saying page unavailable. I went to locate her on my friends list, she was there but when I tried to message her it said account deactivated.I did saw her connected like umm a weeks ago. Didn't talk to her, let me see if she answers, I let you know, She may have a new account, you know we mess everything up and they are kind of paranoid now.
Your Liquid Lounge, Strip, or whatever the name is now, could have been its own post. Ricker seemed to get it:
He didn't use the opportunity to pimp his new upcoming book "São Paulo Mongering for Dummies".Hahaha, I love the idea, and I'm sure I could write that book.
I won't, however, I'm being selfish and I just can't give out more secrets.
Look what happened to Medellin, LOL.
Now let's get back to the cell phone debate, LOL again.
Member #4244
11-17-13, 19:23
If a friend is staying at the mansion is it possible to enter to visit him and have a drink at the bar?NO, their policy is that they don't let anyone in that they are not making money off of. Now, a reasonable person would think,"well, I do plan to drink at their bar, they will make money that way," however reason does not always triumph in this city. You could probably go once and beg them to make an exception, but their policy is a resounding no, even if you are a local (e. G. Not staying at another hotel, actually living here).
Member #4244
11-17-13, 19:26
Your logic is flawed as usual.
You asked if anyone knew what it was about and I certainly DID respond and answer the question. I told you the reason for the La Cueva report on Medellin Bob. Please tell me how that is not related to the original question. My response naturally segued into Robert currently being at Liquid. I'm really sorry I ruined your post by "jacking" it and, also plugging Liquid. I didn't realize how easily confused your are, and what a thin skin you have. I'll try to be more careful now that I know how sensitive you are.So, to clarify, Bob is dropping the name Medellin Bob and going by Robert now? Or is he changing his name to a symbol like Prince did in the 90s?
I get the segue into his being at the club but then why the video of a separate night? By the way, the video is not very enticing. Good luck.
In all seriousness bro, she probably either has a Colombian boyfriend (for now) , or a gringo Western Union novio (for now). Possibly a combination of the two. She'll be back once the gringo gets tired of wiring her cash, or she breaks up with the Colombian novio. It happens all the time if you hang around facebook much.
Some chicas have even de-friended me in the past (as a way to shed ties to that "other life") , and a few months later re-sends me a friend request (signaling that she is back in the game and is ready to play).
Some leave the game and don't return, like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11JeXd2BoUo
I've heard she still plays on a very "limited" basis, but you have to know someone who knows someone, who knows her to get in contact with her:
Don't set your sights on one particular chica. Have a good mix of ones you would like to see if plan A or plan B fall through the cracks. But this is just the internet side of things. The good news is that once you get to Medellin and surround yourself with hotties, you're going to be like "Geraldine who?".Agree. 1000's of Geraldines around.
I was at the Mansion last week and Geraldine was there, probably 4 of the 7 days I was there, I did hear her say something like she has no time for facebook, if that is of any help.
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Anyone know what happened to Geraldine? I tried to reach her since she poked me and got message saying page unavailable. I went to locate her on my friends list, she was there but when I tried to message her it said account deactivated.
SlamCity7777
11-17-13, 22:54
Agree. 1000's of Geraldines around.Speaking of which. I'm pretty sure Wendy Inc is also out of the FB mix. First she 86'd me from FB. Then she accepted me after a PM and then. BLAMO! Gone! I get the Thumb and it says no page. Can anybody confirm what's up? WU Novio? Colombian dude? Just done with the game?
So, to clarify, Bob is dropping the name Medellin Bob and going by Robert now? Or is he changing his name to a symbol like Prince did in the 90s?
I get the segue into his being at the club but then why the video of a separate night? By the way, the video is not very enticing. Good luck.I'm not completely sure. He changes his nom de guerre once in awhile to keep a lower profile.
Yes, I had to cut the good parts out of the video to protect the anonymity of the customers. I posted that one because I hadn't received the new one yet. I'm working on a professional youtube, and when it's done it should be really good.
NO, their policy is that they don't let anyone in that they are not making money off of. Now, a reasonable person would think,"well, I do plan to drink at their bar, they will make money that way," however reason does not always triumph in this city. You could probably go once and beg them to make an exception, but their policy is a resounding no, even if you are a local (e. G. Not staying at another hotel, actually living here).If they allow non guest in the bar, even Santa Clauss! The paying hotel guest will have no reason to stay there, that is why there are NO EXCEPTIONS. If you or I were running the place the same (no non guest) policy would be needed if you want to remain in this kind of hotel business.
We're not talking your average hotel here obviously.
In all seriousness bro, she probably either has a Colombian boyfriend (for now) , or a gringo Western Union novio (for now). Possibly a combination of the two. She'll be back once the gringo gets tired of wiring her cash, or she breaks up with the Colombian novio. It happens all the time if you hang around facebook much.
I've heard she still plays on a very "limited" basis, but you have to know someone who knows someone, who knows her to get in contact with her:
Don't set your sights on one particular chica. Have a good mix of ones you would like to see if plan A or plan B fall through the cracks. But this is just the internet side of things. The good news is that once you get to Medellin and surround yourself with hotties, you're going to be like "Geraldine who?".I visited the Mansion a few weeks ago, and Geraldine was definitely on the scene, for multiple days. She wasn't there for a "special appointment." She was just hanging.
It was the first time I had seen her in the flesh, and I can see why gentlemen go after her. She has a great personality and a very sexy, slightly raspy voice. Just like Demi Moore! I can see why she got that nickname. It definitely fits. From what I understand, she has been on the scene for a while. I think she is gorgeous now. I can't imagine how hot she was 5-6 years ago.
Agree. 1000's of Geraldines around.I like her a lot but it won't be a problem not seeing her. I think she has a good heart and she's been in a real tough business for a long time and is still in demand. That is an impressive
Lady whether you like her or not.
I hope she is saving some money for her future and her kids futures. My last business w / her was off the charts hot, we get out there a little
And then her nymph side comes out. She is one hella fuck, she lets me do whatever I want and I love her for it.
So I was also wondering what happened to her facebook page. It just might be she needed a change, a sugardaddy would make sense too.
I like her a lot but there too many others ready to take her place, She is one of a kind though, I have my memories.
I like her a lot but it won't be a problem not seeing her. I think she has a good heart and she's been in a real tough business for a long time and is still in demand. That is an impressive
Lady whether you like her or not.
I hope she is saving some money for her future and her kids futures. My last business w / her was off the charts hot, we get out there a little
I like her a lot but there too many others ready to take her place, She is one of a kind though, I have my memories.Admittedly, my experience in Colombia is limited to a single trip, but IMHO I disagree. There wasn't another woman there that came close to her outgoing charm. She also speaks some English, which goes a long way. She went out of her way to talk to everyone in the room. The other women seemed to either gravitate or make room for her.
Yes, she did seem like one of the grand madams there, and yes there were some prettier, younger girls. But as a whole package? I don't know what she's like in the sack, but it sounds like your opinion is shared. 1000's of Geraldines? I think she deserves more credit.
Admittedly, my experience in Colombia is limited to a single trip, but IMHO I disagree. There wasn't another woman there that came close to her outgoing charm. She also speaks some English, which goes a long way. She went out of her way to talk to everyone in the room. The other women seemed to either gravitate or make room for her.
Yes, she did seem like one of the grand madams there, and yes there were some prettier, younger girls. But as a whole package? I don't know what she's like in the sack, but it sounds like your opinion is shared. 1000's of Geraldines? I think she deserves more credit.You may be right. I was just agreeing that theres are too many as pretty as she, the chemistry and personality, well, that's is something else. Colombia is a land of amazing girls though that kind of warm heart is not extinct at all, I always meet girls with a golden heart, even though we know this is their business, you can tell. Hopefully you can meet her again or find some other to feel that good with.
Speaking of which. I'm pretty sure Wendy Inc is also out of the FB mix. First she 86'd me from FB. Then she accepted me after a PM and then. BLAMO! Gone! I get the Thumb and it says no page. Can anybody confirm what's up? WU Novio? Colombian dude? Just done with the game?She still around and not thinking about retirement any time soon, she may be in a trip, she loves when rich mongers fly her aways to exotic places. I was with her like a week ago and still talking to her ones in wile. Also she may be tired of all that FB stupid drama that pollutes that social network, she mentioned that she will take a brake from it and start to live a "real" life. I didn't believe it she would do it but may be the case, so now just like a normal human being call her or e mail her. Have you tried that way? Good luck
I visited the Mansion a few weeks ago, and Geraldine was definitely on the scene, for multiple days. She wasn't there for a "special appointment." She was just hanging.
It was the first time I had seen her in the flesh, and I can see why gentlemen go after her. She has a great personality and a very sexy, slightly raspy voice. Just like Demi Moore! I can see why she got that nickname. It definitely fits. From what I understand, she has been on the scene for a while. I think she is gorgeous now. I can't imagine how hot she was 5-6 years ago.Yes, Geraldine is still around, in fact we hired her to be a mascot at Liquid. She's great at keeping customers and even other girls happy if they can refrain from being jealous of her. Best of all she LOVES stripping LOL.
Here are a couple of my favorite pics of her from years ago.
BlancoVikingo
11-18-13, 06:28
It such a hoax.
Guys spends "up to US$20 000 for two weeks" with amolatina for what can be had of 10% of that price. With an additional 10% in Spanish courses.
I have met models who told me the competition is so hard that the actual modelling rarely pays off directly. There incomes comes from boyfriends,"admirers", to use a sympatic word and for the majority of the stunners. Selling sex as escorts / webcam models. And working on fooling guys at amolatina events.
We from the 1st world doesn't seem to understand that 350-400 US$ dollars / month are the minimum wage for which many in Colombia works 48 hs / week. Or more!
Colombia is one of the most unequal countries in the world regarding incomes, with top 10% of the population getting 40% of GNP and the bottom 0.8, only it is worse in eight African countries according to CIA World Factbook.
You can still make a difference in a girls life buy paying what the locals pay, since most of the Colombian men can't even afford mayorista girls.
80% of the 3, 6 million population in Medellíand is young. Just to the maths. There are +100, 000 stunners always in Medellíand, and at any given moment, maybe a few hundreds foreign girl-hunters.
Beautiful or not, to make a decent living one needs a university degree from a private university or equal skills to escape the poverty in the enormous barrios that surrounds the high end barrios Poblado, Laureles, Calasanz etc. And none of the poor don't make the transition with just money, hard studies is required, and answering questions from your classmates how you like a poor barrios girl can afford a private university.
Yes, she did seem like one of the grand madams there, and yes there were some prettier, younger girls. But as a whole package? I don't know what she's like in the sack, but it sounds like your opinion is shared. 1000's of Geraldines? I think she deserves more credit.My post re Geraldine was not negative in the least. I am a big fan of hers as most are. When I return in January I will try and see her but if she is not available I really won't miss out.
I do enjoy messing around w / her tho. Very much.
Maybe Av8r can ask her what happened to her facebook page.
Does she have anything to say to her facebook friends?
In all seriousness bro, she probably either has a Colombian boyfriend (for now) , or a gringo Western Union novio (for now). Possibly a combination of the two. She'll be back once the gringo gets tired of wiring her cash, or she breaks up with the Colombian novio. It happens all the time if you hang around facebook much.
First off, I will not wire anyone anything, bail out of jail etc. I learned my lesson got cleaned out by a chick in Hawaii and one in Hong Kong. By the way Wendy also deactivated her account on Facebook, same thing I was able to see her when I open my friend list but reads deactivated when I tried to pm her. I have a person that, s connected to the Mansion where I, ll be staying in Feb. Who is in contact with me that recommends I meet chicas once I, m in Medellin so I don, t get given the runaround by someone not showing up. However, Ximena made the first move and made a friend request and there, s a good write up on her on another forum. Also Yamii and Giraldo if anyone know anything on them. Either of them Mansion girls? This will be my first trip and would like as little disappoints as possible.
Don't set your sights on one particular chica. Have a good mix of ones you would like to see if plan A or plan B fall through the cracks. But this is just the internet side of things. The good news is that once you get to Medellin and surround yourself with hotties, you're going to be like "Geraldine who?".I'll agree on that but I did hear that Facebook is a popular way working girls in Columbia use to meet for p4p action.
Any opinions on Yamii, Giraldo or Ximena?
SavePros321
11-18-13, 12:33
Wow, this chica's pussy must be quite magical, LOL. I've never had the pleasure. I'm sure Av8r can pass this message on to her (that her fans are saying):
Please Don't Go Girl - NKOTB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH3hqQP1bto
Hopefully we will not have to put any of you guys on suicide watch ;)
If they allow non guest in the bar, even Santa Clauss! The paying hotel guest will have no reason to stay there, that is why there are NO EXCEPTIONS. If you or I were running the place the same (no non guest) policy would be needed if you want to remain in this kind of hotel business.
We're not talking your average hotel here obviously.I hear that they, re doing a similiar thing in Costa Rica-not letting in locals or even local looking at hotel bars reason being working girls and mongers get harassed by them. This was confirmed by an owner of a hotel on another forum when someone was denied entry who was from California who looks local and he had to resolve the issue and get him in! If that is so not a bad idea there are elements around that don, t like us, I experienced some right here in NYC at clubs and parties. Watch this video from some asshole in Medellin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vex3YzvFd80
Wow, this chica's pussy must be quite magical, LOL. I've never had the pleasure. I'm sure Av8r can pass this message on to her (that her fans are saying) :
Please Don't Go Girl. NKOTB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH3hqQP1bto
Hopefully we will not have to put any of you guys on suicide watch.It reminds me of the times I tried with no success to get a couple of non pros. We spent a lot of time in Coney Island where the video was made. It, s no lost if I can, t find Geraldine. I'm sure there's plenty like her or even better at the Mansion where I'll be staying I already paid for the room and plane ticket!
SavePros321
11-18-13, 15:38
It such a hoax.
Guys spends "up to US$20 000 for two weeks" with amolatina for what can be had of 10% of that price. With an additional 10% in Spanish courses.
I have met models who told me the competition is so hard that the actual modelling rarely pays off directly. There incomes comes from boyfriends,"admirers", to use a sympatic word and for the majority of the stunners. Selling sex as escorts / webcam models. And working on fooling guys at amolatina events.
We from the 1st world doesn't seem to understand that 350-400 US$ dollars / month are the minimum wage for which many in Colombia works 48 hs / week. Or more!
Colombia is one of the most unequal countries in the world regarding incomes, with top 10% of the population getting 40% of GNP and the bottom 0. 8, only it is worse in eight African countries according to CIA World Factbook.
You can still make a difference in a girls life buy paying what the locals pay, since most of the Colombian men can't even afford mayorista girls.
80% of the 3, 6 million population in Medellíand is young. Just to the maths. There are +100, 000 stunners always in Medellíand, and at any given moment, maybe a few hundreds foreign girl-hunters.
Beautiful or not, to make a decent living one needs a university degree from a private university or equal skills to escape the poverty in the enormous barrios that surrounds the high end barrios Poblado, Laureles, Calasanz etc. And none of the poor don't make the transition with just money, hard studies is required, and answering questions from your classmates how you like a poor barrios girl can afford a private university.Good post to remind us too keep things in perspective when it comes to paying chicas. Most of them have the mentality of "You're a gringo, which means you have more money, which means you should be able to pay me more money".
But just keep in mind that this "perspective" doesn't apply much to the small circle of fb chicas we all are slobbering over. This especially applies to you guys going down there for Thanksgiving during the "mass gringo influx". These chicas will be weighing your bids because they will have a mass amount of choices in their favor. If you contact her on Facebook and offer 120k ST while another John is offering 300k ST within the same window of time, then guess what?
CaptainDorado
11-18-13, 15:47
If they allow non guest in the bar, even Santa Clauss! The paying hotel guest will have no reason to stay there, that is why there are NO EXCEPTIONS. If you or I were running the place the same (no non guest) policy would be needed if you want to remain in this kind of hotel business.
We're not talking your average hotel here obviously.I go there all the time, but I am a bitchen cool dude, kinda like Huge Hefner and Bill Gates. They give me free beer I'm so cool.
It reminds me of the times I tried with no success to get a couple of non pros. We spent a lot of time in Coney Island where the video was made. It, s no lost if I can, t find Geraldine. I'm sure there's plenty like her or even better at the Mansion where I'll be staying I already paid for the room and plane ticket!
WTF mannn you had to do it?? Dude, I was expecting to see Geraldine stripping or something more "intellectual" hahahaha
Damm yes, I felt like committing suicide, shoot me in the head, because of the torture of watching those fags, hahahaa sorry bro but it was killing me!! Are you sure the girls weren't themselves dressing as baby Barby dolls??
HAhahaha shttt I feel going gay nowww helpp,, I had to see the full MF video!!! hahahhaa I wil get you back, you will see, hahaha
Just kidding bro.. video is awesome!! (naaahh) damet now I feel like pukingg hahahaha Ok enough..
Hello,
I am coming to Medellin soon. Could you give the contacts of guide, maybe you know? It would be very helpful for me. The person who can help to make contacts with girls?
Wow, this chica's pussy must be quite magical, LOL. I've never had the pleasure. I'm sure Av8r can pass this message on to her (that her fans are saying) :
Please Don't Go Girl. NKOTB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH3hqQP1bto
Hopefully we will not have to put any of you guys on suicide watch.Not a magical pussy; just Superwomen.
Hopefully these pics will prevent a suicide or two;)
Not a magical pussy; just Superwomen.
Hopefully these pics will prevent a suicide or two.So can you ask your pal why she shut down her Facbook page.
That would be quality info as opposed to the constant flow of nothing much.
Thanks in advance.
Member #4244
11-19-13, 00:17
I actually appreciate the pics, if nothing else.
Went to a couple Centro casas the last couple of days. Some new girls at New Life, they all have kind of fatal flaws in the looks department but the two I tried were very eager to please. One started yesterday, Natasha or Natalia (one is her actual name, one is her stage name. Odd that they are so similar). Black chick born in Medellin. 20, tight body apart from her deflated tits (small breasted, had two kids as a teenager). She was fun. She has a very shy demeanor but in the sack she is up for literally anything. Extras were very reasonable. Main issue with her is that she has two really fucked up teeth right in the front of her mouth. She must have the same dentist as Reggie Miller and Steve Buscemi. But overall she was cool, very eager to please and also she was the thinnest girl there by a long shot.
Aiffe is still kind of dead, Yesica is a fun one who is still there. She is pretty shy but young, sweet, cute and willing. Your mileage may vary with a girl like her, but if you take charge of the session, you will have fun.
So can you ask your pal why she shut down her Facbook page.
That would be quality info as opposed to the constant flow of nothing much.
Thanks in advance.If I knew I would have posted it. I called and left a message but haven't heard back.
If you guys would rather I not post photos, I won't. I thought that was part of what this board is about. I have a very sexy striptease she let me video, but of course I need her permission before I can post it.
If I knew I would have posted it. I called and left a message but haven't heard back.After I'm done with her ill ask her about her page. ;)
Go for it man, pictures of pretty girls is never a bad thing. Sexy videos even better.
After I'm done with her ill ask her about her page. .
Go for it man, pictures of pretty girls is never a bad thing. Sexy videos even better.I'm sorry to say that she is gone for awhile and maybe forever. I can't say why. She told me, but didn't give me permission to divulge. I think it will be common knowledge soon, but I never want to spill info that someone wants kept secret. I'm waiting for a return message giving me the OK to explain. I'm pretty sure she'll say yes.
SavePros321
11-19-13, 01:55
hello,
i am coming to medellin soon. could you give the contacts of guide, maybe you know? it would be very helpful for me. the person who can help to make contacts with girls?look in the medellin list pdf under the "guides" section. many people like the driver jimmy giraldo. he can take you to where all the girls are (casas, strip clubs, streetwalkers) , but i am not positive that he is in the business of personally connecting you with chicas.
since you pm'd me a few time, i'll help speed things up for you:
drivers or chica guides (taken from the "medellin list" posted by world travel 69)
1. juan carlos speaks good english and is cool and is honest and doesn't gouge the gringo. he'll take you on "special trips" or help you find casas, chicas. etc. rates: 25k hour. 60k airport pickup. tel: 311-303-8435, 313-732-6366.
2. bucky. tel: 311 745 2192, 312 6409. speaks english.
3. jaime mira estrada. tel: 314 870 6228, (57) 317-793-5404. jaime-medellintaxi@hotmail.com
http://www.medellintaxi.com/
4. william. he lived in the usa for 5 years so he speaks perfect english. rates: 22k hour. 3 hours or more 20k per hour. cell: (573) 300-677-8058. willisbestsupport@gmail.com
www.willisbestguidemedellin.com
5. jimmy, he speaks english. cell: 314 870 62 28.
6. robert makes sure you have a good time and you enjoy the stay. feel free to call his usa landline 954-530-9981 or cell 300 242 19 33.
7. dino speaks spanish only. cells are: 300 610 7211 or 315 315 5010, home 371 7683.
8. cesar's cell number from usa is 011-57-315-514-3390. from medellin you just call the last 10 numbers: 315-514-3390. cesar does not speak much english.
9. gustavo has lived in the usa, speaks very good english, understands and can relate to your needs.
you can contact gustavo directly, cellular in medellin 311-388-3861.
10. hector, speaks good english. tel: 315 661 4187, 300 786 1119.
11. fernando, no english but knows everything in medellin. tel: 300-475-2504. his cells: from the usa 01157-310-826-7678, 313-618-8670.
12. nick, speaks english. tel: 300 780 7504.
13. robinson, speaks english. tel: 300 386 0760, 311 307 8913.
14. andrea, she speaks english and has no car. tel: 311 387 0007.
15. linton, cell is 311-714-9712. he doesn't speak english but he knows where the street girls are. and he charged what was on the meter. highly recommended!
16. john jairo, this guy was really good about taking us on a tour of the sg's and chica clubs. tel: (310) 518-3818.
17. alvero, speaks english. cell number from medellin: 316-252-2882. from the usa: 011-57-316-252-2882.
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here is the link to the full list: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-medellin-lists&p=1481282&viewfull=1#post1481282
download the pdf and print it out for your trip. do the same for the cartagena list (in the "cartagena list" forum).
be sure to check both of those forums regularly because members post updates to it frequently, such as closures, venue name changes, bad service, etc.
buena suerte!
Yes, Geraldine is still around, in fact we hired her to be a mascot at Liquid. She's great at keeping customers and even other girls happy if they can refrain from being jealous of her. Best of all she LOVES stripping LOL.
Here are a couple of my favorite pics of her from years ago.Wow! Thanks for posting the pics!
She was definitely more slender back then, but I think that she is still hot now.
More! Post more!
Wow! Thanks for posting the pics!
She was definitely more slender back then, but I think that she is still hot now.
More! Post more!Ok twist my arm. Paragliding with another original Mansion girl Sammy. Anybody else remember her? I have lots of great pics of her also.
By the way, Geraldine in pregnant, and is talking about quitting the scene entirely.
She's already got one child, so with another mouth to feed she might be working more. Unless she has a sugar daddy. But I wish her well. She seems to be a nice person whose had a rough life.
thanks for help!
look in the medellin list pdf under the "guides" section. many people like the driver jimmy giraldo. he can take you to where all the girls are (casas, strip clubs, streetwalkers) , but i am not positive that he is in the business of personally connecting you with chicas.
since you pm'd me a few time, i'll help speed things up for you:
drivers or chica guides (taken from the "medellin list" posted by world travel 69)
1. juan carlos speaks good english and is cool and is honest and doesn't gouge the gringo. he'll take you on "special trips" or help you find casas, chicas. etc. rates: 25k hour. 60k airport pickup. tel: 311-303-8435, 313-732-6366.
2. bucky. tel: 311 745 2192, 312 6409. speaks english.
3. jaime mira estrada. tel: 314 870 6228, (57) 317-793-5404. jaime-medellintaxi@hotmail.com
http://www.medellintaxi.com/
4. william. he lived in the usa for 5 years so he speaks perfect english. rates: 22k hour. 3 hours or more 20k per hour. cell: (573) 300-677-8058. willisbestsupport@gmail.com
www.willisbestguidemedellin.com
5. jimmy, he speaks english. cell: 314 870 62 28.
6. robert makes sure you have a good time and you enjoy the stay. feel free to call his usa landline 954-530-9981 or cell 300 242 19 33.
7. dino speaks spanish only. cells are: 300 610 7211 or 315 315 5010, home 371 7683.
8. cesar's cell number from usa is 011-57-315-514-3390. from medellin you just call the last 10 numbers: 315-514-3390. cesar does not speak much english...
Thanks all for the help with the guides! Also, can't decide where to stay more or less. First plan to go to Medellin for 10 days then Cartagena for 7 days. Or maybe to stay all the days in Medellin and not to go to Cartagena? Need the city where I can find the biggest part of girls like semi, and non pro. Don't think to visits casas.
I have been to Medellin over 50 + times. I know about the modelling scene and every thing that Medellin has to offer. Bottom Line not all girls go for Cheap.
Case in point. Girl was offered a trip to Peru (yes Machu Pichu) and all. Get paid $500 for a week on top of that and guess what?
She says NOOOOOOO. Too Little money.
Second Case in Point. Offered one Girl 400 mil short time or 800 mil Pesos all Night. Guess what Again too little money.
Us Gringos think we have all the money and we have egoes. But my friend there are many Girls that I know would not give you a time of day if you were to try and pay them less then 250 mil for 2 hours.
Yes you are reading this correctly. Don't even try and tell me that I don't know Medellin.
Gringos who visit Medellin most of the time just only see those Model looking Paisas at Parque LLeras I have fucked them.
So buddy yes some times you have to spend money. Some times Language Helps as well.
I speak almost as good spanish as most guys do but I have no intention of Short changing the girls. In other words.
Many Guys can find top beautiful girls for free in Medellin. But for that you have to spend time in Medellin.
Anyways to those of you who are willing to spend money you may PM me.
I am sure after this Post I may get 20 different Negative Posts. But I don't care.
I stopped posting on Medellin Board because of that same reason but what can I do. This Board has helped me alot over the Years and to some extent I feel indebted to some very good guys on this board.
I remember back in 2005 when I first visited Medellin and I wanted better quality girls I was brushed off by comments like what is wrong with Girls at the Mansion.
My answer even today Mansion Girls are beautiful many of them my friends nothing wrong with them but I seek the best. And the best rarely comes at the Mansion on it's own.
It is the few Guests at the Mansion. I know who brings Premium meat to the Mansion.
Regards,
John.
It such a hoax.
Guys spends "up to US$20 000 for two weeks" with amolatina for what can be had of 10% of that price. With an additional 10% in Spanish courses.
I have met models who told me the competition is so hard that the actual modelling rarely pays off directly. There incomes comes from boyfriends,"admirers", to use a sympatic word and for the majority of the stunners. Selling sex as escorts / webcam models. And working on fooling guys at amolatina events.
We from the 1st world doesn't seem to understand that 350-400 US$ dollars / month are the minimum wage for which many in Colombia works 48 hs / week. Or more!
Colombia is one of the most unequal contries in the world regarding incomes, with top 10% of the population getting 40% of GNP and the bottom 0. 8, only it is worse in eight African countries according to CIA World Factbook.
You can still make a difference in a girls life buy paying what the locals pay, since most of the Colombian men can't even afford mayorista girls.
80% of the 3, 6 million population in Medellíand is young. Just to the maths. There are +100, 000 stunners always in Medellíand, and at any given moment, maybe a few hundreds foreign girl-hunters.
Beautiful or not, to make a decent living one needs a university degree from a private university or equal skills to escape the poverty in the enormous barrios that surrounds the high end barrios Poblado, Laureles, Calasanz etc. And none of the poor don't make the transition with just money, hard studies is required, and answering questions from your classmates how you like a poor barrios girl can afford a private university.
Ok twist my arm. Paragliding with another original Mansion girl Sammy. Anybody else remember her? I have lots of great pics of her also.
By the way, Geraldine in pregnant, and is talking about quitting the scene entirely.Great pics and surprising info on Medellin's finest. I hope she is happy.
Here's a pic from my last visit. What a beauty. She'll be missed.
SavePros321
11-19-13, 13:53
There is one VERY IMPORTANT detail that you left out of your sales pitch amigo.
When a chica is thinking "I have to take care of my kid, pay tuition, my mother's medical bills, etc.", then she will be wiling to negotiate down from 250k, or any price for that matter.
BUT, when she says all of those things to herself, AND "I have to pay my pimp more than half of what I earn", then of course we gringos are going to be asked for more money so that she can cover her overhead costs of guys like you that have latched on to her. Anytime there is a middle man involved in the transaction prices are ALWAYS higher and non-negotiable.
So keep the sermon about "yes buddy, you have to pay more money" reserved for the newbies.
If any of you think that I am just making shit up, ask John Boy to post his percentage of the cut he takes from both mongers AND chicas as his "finder's fee" for helping each party make the connection. I'm sure none of you believe that he is doing this out of the kindness of his heart, lmao!
I have been to Medellin over 50 + times. I know about the modelling scene and every thing that Medellin has to offer. Bottom Line not all girls go for Cheap.
Case in point. Girl was offered a trip to Peru (yes Machu Pichu) and all. Get paid $500 for a week on top of that and guess what?
She says NOOOOOOO. Too Little money.
Second Case in Point. Offered one Girl 400 mil short time or 800 mil Pesos all Night. Guess what Again too little money.
Us Gringos think we have all the money and we have egoes. But my friend there are many Girls that I know would not give you a time of day if you were to try and pay them less then 250 mil for 2 hours, etc, etc.Again, this is not rocket science.
Just like in dealing with regular girls, mongering is not a one-size-fits all deal, whether it be in Medellin, Sao Paulo, Rio, Buenos Aires or Los Angeles, etc, etc.
Some girls wouldn't PFP irregardless of price, some would accept much less from some guys than from others for various reasons and some guys are just better able to extract a better price due to their particular skills, looks, chemestry, etc, etc.
The girl that turned down the trip to Peru for $500, may have also turned down $1000 because she wasn't 'feeling' it with that particular guy, however, she may just have accpepted the trip with another for $300.
You just don't know.
Speaking spanish always helps, being in decent shape, good hygene, and being a cool mofo helps greatly as well.
It just is not that complicated.
Good luck amigos.
Exactly my point. Ahhahhahah.
First off I won't pay a girl more then 150 mil who has kids. Second. I don't deal with Pimps. And if I do I would not call that money going to the girls Direct.
Wow.. I just read your comment about percentage cut. HHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHA.. I am not about to cuss at any one on this boar but buddy.. jhahhahahhahhahhah.a.
Exactly my point.. Cheap Shot......... I am the one who flew 4 girls by my self over 4 days to San Andres. Expense on that trip $4,000 you think I need money from these girls...
Bottom Line to each his own.
As per to reply to my friend Ricker. I know who you are Ricker and I have seen you in action in Person. Yes some times you find a Gem for much cheaper.
Most of the times your girls are not just worth my time.
Same goes with me some times I may pay a girl much more because she is special to me but I would never call that market rate.
Anyways I was expecting the reply from first and foremost the know it all Mr. Ricker. Yes my friend you been to Medellin possibly much more then I have but your taste in Girls is muc different then mine.
I can definitely post Girls photos here which will take care of this argument but I rather not disclose my friends in Public.
But I don't mind posting the foto of a girl that said no to 800 mil over night. But I didn't push it beyond that point.
Here you go her name is Joselyn Escobar. May be Ricker just May be you have enough game to get this girl for 150 mil an hour.
Regards,
John.
There is one VERY IMPORTANT detail that you left out of your sales pitch amigo.
When a chica is thinking "I have to take care of my kid, pay tuition, my mother's medical bills, etc.", then she will be wiling to negotiate down from 250k, or any price for that matter.
BUT, when she says all of those things to herself, AND "I have to pay my pimp more than half of what I earn", then of course we gringos are going to be asked for more money so that she can cover her overhead costs of guys like you that have latched on to her. Anytime there is a middle man involved in the transaction prices are ALWAYS higher and non-negotiable.
So keep the sermon about "yes buddy, you have to pay more money" reserved for the newbies.
If any of you think that I am just making shit up, ask John Boy to post his percentage of the cut he takes from both mongers AND chicas as his "finder's fee" for helping each party make the connection. I'm sure none of you believe that he is doing this out of the kindness of his heart, lmao!
This can be kind of polemic, we never will agree on this matter because it hurts our wallet bad.
First of all, Colombian girls really don't need a pimp to "protect" them from anything, the function of a pimp is irrelevant here because the activity is "legal", but the less brain the easier to be manipulated and scared to be victims of this leaches.
Most gorgeous girls I have met in Medellin are completely free lancers, no pimps or relatives. But I can't deny in the low scene there is a lot of pimping, because they work in a very dangerous territory, but who want to pay high prices for those poor girls? High class escorts usually work for agencies (Agencies can be worts than pimps that's true) or Independently, with contacts, a friend of a friend who has the connections and they may ask for a fee but usually is just mutual wining, The dude wins a favor from Mr. BigPockets and the girl gets a big "donation" Is not a secret how the Entertainment back stage business operates, here and anywhere else.
Now the gringo theory: We gringos f. Ck up most of the play in any city we step on, that is a fact and won't change easily until our government and bankers finish with us and our over seas trips. You can go back in time and will see what a beautiful Mongering paradise was Russia, Argentina, Prague, Rio etc etc.
I was lucky enough to be there before the avalanche of gringos showed up. There were even model type girls working the streets of Moscow and La Roustic in Buenos Aires in it's Basement had a Club where the actual TV stars where escorting. Now you have to be a Millionaire to get access to them. But also there are and always were locals who spoiled the girls, we contributed big time but we weren't the only ones.
Ok that is history, can't be changed, Now the reality is that if you want hight end quality you have to pay for it or be super lucky and explore real hard, which also includes time and money, so at the end we did not save a penny.
I feel very jealous of those guys who have no problem at all with the average girls and have the time of their lives with less than half of the money than me. Man I wish I had that kind of taste, I would be so happy too =). Unfortunately I have this stupid brain that don't get content and for that reason have to play harder. So for stupid people like me there is not much of choices now, Or we pay higher prices or we play hard the non pro scene, which ironically can be way more expensive.
Number 1 scenario: Last weekend in Medellin I had the brilliant idea of saying bye to the city inviting a regular girl to dance and have "normal" fun; of course the plan was to fck the brains out of her all night after the party. Well she had to pick, and of course she picked the most expensive places, Afternoon walk in the Tesoro Mall, watch a movie, then a nice romantic Dinner in a city viewed restaurant, then go to Lleras for a drink or so, then hit Fahrenheit Club. Man drinks 30-50k you know. Well at the end of the night with the girl drunk and me horny as hell finally went to my aprt. This was like 4:00 AM. Yes we fck good but after the first wild round she just passed out. So can't even do the math how much I spent for ONE hop. Girl is gorgeous, but if I had a contact for this same kind of "regomelas" I would pay her happily and do her all night long. I had a blast and there are no regrets, but the point is that "free" sex is never free, at least if you are an Adonis and have no shame and rich girls would pay for everything. So prices for models are not that bad now, they are spoiled that is correct, we are guilty in most part, that is correct, but it won't change down, We can try to not make it change higher fast, But we can't just be blind and think we can avoid it, especially if we are not locals and language is big barrier, or we are old and not in shape and don't know how to dance and all that stuff that "regular" girls dig, that is something that won't change, not because we are foreigner, not because we should be luckier than in our home.
So I'm with John and Vikingo on this. Not to spoil the market but to face reality.
Over average girls can see that very early and because of the stupid media gringo style we export everywhere they are more than aware how much their golden pussy cat worth and vanity has won over humbleness.
Member #4244
11-19-13, 16:06
Well certainly there are different strata and levels of girls and there are some that command bigger money. That said, a trip to Peru and $500 a week is not a very strong example. That is less than 200K per DAY and we are talking about girls going for 150K for an hour. There are many girls who would turn that down because it's not that much money. A trip to Peru, that's fine, but they need the cash flow and probably don't value a trip to Lima with some grabby gringo the way they would their honeymoon. Getting girls to travel is a tricky thing. I have gotten them to do it for just the cost the trip, other times I have had to come up with 200K or 300K per day. There are a lot of factors there and it's a definite YMMV situation.
SavePros321
11-19-13, 16:55
Very good "different" perspective on things Dealdo. I was using the term "pimp" as in "agency" and "middleman".
I'm sure there is a place for the Johns of the world in mongering. Just was pointing out that things get much more expensive when they are involved in the transaction. Look at a place like Luna Lunera; 150k to the house if you want to take the chica off site, and 250k to the chica. I would like to think you could negotiate something much lower if the chicas there were "true" freelancers. But at the same time we probably couldn't have found these chicas on our own, so you have to pay the equivalent of a "finders fee".
I'm still very happy with the quality I have been able to get on my own. John mentioned that one of his chicas would not even go for 800k. What if she is a total cold biyatch CBJ starfish? I can pay those kind of prices in the US without having to pay for airfare and an apartment for a week.
I realize we all have differnt expectations while mongering. I have never paid more than $150 USD in Colombia for full-on girlfriend experience with photos and video with what I deem very hot chicas. They may not be Car Audio model-type chicas, but I've been very satisfied to say the least.
Exactly my point. Ahhahhahah.
First off I won't pay a girl more then 150 mil who has kids. Second. I don't deal with Pimps. And if I do I would not call that money going to the girls Direct.
Wow. I just read your comment about percentage cut. HHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHA. I am not about to cuss at any one on this boar but buddy. Jhahhahahhahhahhah. A.
Exactly my point. Cheap Shot. I am the one who flew 4 girls by my self over 4 days to San Andres. Expense on that trip $4, 000 you think I need money from these girls.
Bottom Line to each his own.
As per to reply to my friend Ricker. I know who you are Ricker and I have seen you in action in Person. Yes some times you find a Gem for much cheaper.
Most of the times your girls are not just worth my time.
Same goes with me some times I may pay a girl much more because she is special to me but I would never call that market rate.
Anyways I was expecting the reply from first and foremost the know it all Mr. Ricker. Yes my friend you been to Medellin possibly much more then I have but your taste in Girls is muc different then mine.
I can definitely post Girls photos here which will take care of this argument but I rather not disclose my friends in Public.
But I don't mind posting the foto of a girl that said no to 800 mil over night. But I didn't push it beyond that point.
Here you go her name is Joselyn Escobar. May be Ricker just May be you have enough game to get this girl for 150 mil an hour.
Regards,
John.I don't get the point. Of course she's a beautiful girl, but there are thousands of girls that beautiful in Medellin that won't prostitute themselves for 800m. But then again, it might have just been you;)
Legal Tender
11-19-13, 17:30
This can be kind of polemic, we never will agree on this matter because it hurts our wallet bad.I'm trying to get my head around some recent posts. At bottom, John opines that he has access to the creme de la creme of the girls in Medellin, while acknowledging that Ricker, with his limitations, sometimes finds the gem, but obviously can't afford the best, like John does. This whole colloquy is way to close to the "my dick is bigger than yours" boasting. The fact is that there are gems everywhere in Medellin. What separates one from a meaningful relationship with a "gem" is not the wallet, but the heart. My assumption is that, biologically and emotionally, we would find sex much more pleasurable with an "8" that wants to give pleasure to sex with a mechanical "10."
I've been lucky enough to be able to provide several girls in Medellin with scholarships. I know about their lives, have met their families. And each of their mamas line up to invite me for dinner. All I feel is love from these girls, and their families. Sure, I've had some disappointments. A couple of the girls have not taken advantage of this opportunity, and dropped out of their respective universities. That hurt my heart bad, but no regrets about spending the money; that was my choice and I give with a giving heart.
My point is simply this: It's easier to light one candle than to curse the darkness. Obviously not everyone is in a position to do what I do, nor do they approach life as I do. We all decide to do what we do, and our attitude in our relationships with others. And, it's not all about spending large sums of money. It takes time and an interest in improving a girl's life; it's more than the lowest price for the most desirable service provider for a few hours or a night. Just think about it. Would you rather have passionate sex or passionate sex with intimacy? The choice is each of ours.
Only good energy, amigos.
Oh, and there will be at least one Paisa that will cry when you die, because she knew that you cared about her / them.
You can roll around the words as you wish but you clearly stated that I am benefiting from Helping any on this board.
Your words clearly That I am getting a cut from these Girls. It's most definitely not true.
Now you want to take your words back. As I said before to each his Own. Of course I can't make you take your words back. But this shows the quality of the thinking process you have.
Thanks for Nothing.
Good Day. Guys.
I choose my battles to fight and this is not one of them. Money is always respective.
Happy Hunting.
Very good "different" perspective on things Dealdo. I was using the term "pimp" as in "agency" and "middleman".
I'm sure there is a place for the Johns of the world in mongering. Just was pointing out that things get much more expensive when they are involved in the transaction. Look at a place like Luna Lunera; 150k to the house if you want to take the chica off site, and 250k to the chica. I would like to think you could negotiate something much lower if the chicas there were "true" freelancers. But at the same time we probably couldn't have found these chicas on our own, so you have to pay the equivalent of a "finders fee".
I'm still very happy with the quality I have been able to get on my own. John mentioned that one of his chicas would not even go for 800k. What if she is a total cold biyatch CBJ starfish? I can pay those kind of prices in the US without having to pay for airfare and an apartment for a week.
I realize we all have differnt expectations while mongering. I have never paid more than $150 USD in Colombia for full-on girlfriend experience with photos and video with what I deem very hot chicas. They may not be Car Audio model-type chicas, but I've been very satisfied to say the least.
Very good "different" perspective on things Dealdo. I was using the term "pimp" as in "agency" and "middleman".
I'm sure there is a place for the Johns of the world in mongering. Just was pointing out that things get much more expensive when they are involved in the transaction. Look at a place like Luna Lunera; 150k to the house if you want to take the chica off site, and 250k to the chica. I would like to think you could negotiate something much lower if the chicas there were "true" freelancers. But at the same time we probably couldn't have found these chicas on our own, so you have to pay the equivalent of a "finders fee".
I'm still very happy with the quality I have been able to get on my own. John mentioned that one of his chicas would not even go for 800k. What if she is a total cold biyatch CBJ starfish? I can pay those kind of prices in the US without having to pay for airfare and an apartment for a week.
I realize we all have differnt expectations while mongering. I have never paid more than $150 USD in Colombia for full-on girlfriend experience with photos and video with what I deem very hot chicas. They may not be Car Audio model-type chicas, but I've been very satisfied to say the least.Ahh OK I see now the point, valid point, but sometimes you just can't find that girl nowhere else, In all nightclubs is the same, all agencies also, and I have made real good friends on those medios, sometimes is just very hard to find the gems, especially if we lock of confidence, style, game and time. But 150US dlls is very good even for agency prices, so is all part of the investment as I can see the panorama. Sometimes we are lucky, sometimes we get screwed, it happens, and is like a payment Karma thing, but is not smart at all when it happens all the time =) , If an agency screwed you ones that's it, they do it on regular basis and you can't be that dummy to keep using them.
I'm trying to get my head around some recent posts. At bottom, John opines that he has access to the creme de la creme of the girls in Medellin, while acknowledging that Ricker, with his limitations, sometimes finds the gem, but obviously can't afford the best, like John does. This whole colloquy is way to close to the "my dick is bigger than yours" boasting. The fact is that there are gems everywhere in Medellin. What separates one from a meaningful relationship with a "gem" is not the wallet, but the heart. My assumption is that, biologically and emotionally, we would find sex much more pleasurable with an "8" that wants to give pleasure to sex with a mechanical "10."
I've been lucky enough to be able to provide several girls in Medellin with scholarships. I know about their lives, have met their families. And each of their mamas line up to invite me for dinner. All I feel is love from these girls, and their families. Sure, I've had some disappointments. A couple of the girls have not taken advantage of this opportunity, and dropped out of their respective universities. That hurt my heart bad, but no regrets about spending the money; that was my choice and I give with a giving heart.
My point is simply this: It's easier to light one candle than to curse the darkness. Obviously not everyone is in a position to do what I do, nor do they approach life as I do. We all decide to do what we do, and our attitude in our relationships with others. And, it's not all about spending large sums of money. It takes time and an interest in improving a girl's life; it's more than the lowest price for the most desirable service provider for a few hours or a night. Just think about it. Would you rather have passionate sex or passionate sex with intimacy? The choice is each of ours.
Only good energy, amigos.
Oh, and there will be at least one Paisa that will cry when you die, because she knew that you cared about her / them.I like your style too. I can't be that person, I make good friends of course but don't want to be involved that deep, I'm traumatized if you will, but is very respectful and in my opinion would do a lot more positive impact people like you, too bad I can't be, So I still choosing passionate sex either way they want to provide to me, when is "intimacy" sex as you call it I always wishing "please be faked" I will die and nobody will cry for me for sure, but is OK. When I'll get rich and be able to support students beside my relatives I will do it very happily. In the mean time I pay, or not, but with out those strings. Paying is good for them too, for the economies and for the release of bad energy as you call.
YOu are a Good Man, my respects for you and keep giving a better name to our bad reputation.
SavePros321
11-19-13, 18:19
You can roll around the words as you wish but you clearly stated that I am benefiting from Helping any on this board.
Your words clearly That I am getting a cut from these Girls. It's most definitely not true.
Now you want to take your words back. As I said before to each his Own. Of course I can't make you take your words back. But this shows the quality of the thinking process you have.If I read you wrong then my mistake, but:
Anyways to those of you who are willing to spend money you may PM me.Sounds like a guy who is saying "I've got the chicas, they ain't cheap, but if you are looking to spend some big bucks then let's talk." Do pimps not talk like this, LOL?
There was a guy in the Cali forum named Olympus a few weeks ago who had the exact same sales pitch. But if these introductions are all being done from the kindness of your heart (cough), then clearly we've gotten you all wrong.
Member #4244
11-19-13, 18:27
Are we to help each other or to ***** and fucking moan?
I am getting pretty sick of visiting here and seeing fuck nothing for information and lots of infighting over trivial shit or vague "accomplishments" or who's ruining what for other mongerers.
Collectively, we are all ruining this board.
I have been pleased to see the Lists board being updated with a bit of useful information, but I am sure it won't take long for the bickering to spread there at this rate.
Are we to help each other or to * and fucking moan?
I am getting pretty sick of visiting here and seeing fuck nothing for information and lots of infighting over trivial shit or vague "accomplishments" or who's ruining what for other mongerers.
Collectively, we are all ruining this board.
I have been pleased to see the Lists board being updated with a bit of useful information, but I am sure it won't take long for the bickering to spread there at this rate.
True, let's change gears, I think John gave us a valuable inside that is not touched often and is not for the most. But here some question that could be useful.
Going to Fase Dos I saw some little spinners around the corner, they look like SW, some of them where very doable looking, Last trip I saw them too but they where very bad looking, I heard they are working. Can you guys comment about them? Are they dangerous? (talking about rip off pimps and stuff) Is being longg since I pick a good girl from the streets, I felt like part of a lier Hollywood movie where SW are hot. Thanks guys
SeizeTheDay
11-19-13, 18:54
I'm trying to get my head around some recent posts. At bottom, John opines that he has access to the creme de la creme of the girls in Medellin, while acknowledging that Ricker, with his limitations, sometimes finds the gem, but obviously can't afford the best, like John does. This whole colloquy is way to close to the "my dick is bigger than yours" boasting. The fact is that there are gems everywhere in Medellin. What separates one from a meaningful relationship with a "gem" is not the wallet, but the heart. My assumption is that, biologically and emotionally, we would find sex much more pleasurable with an "8" that wants to give pleasure to sex with a mechanical "10."
I've been lucky enough to be able to provide several girls in Medellin with scholarships. I know about their lives, have met their families. And each of their mamas line up to invite me for dinner. All I feel is love from these girls, and their families. Sure, I've had some disappointments. A couple of the girls have not taken advantage of this opportunity, and dropped out of their respective universities. That hurt my heart bad, but no regrets about spending the money; that was my choice and I give with a giving heart.
My point is simply this: It's easier to light one candle than to curse the darkness. Obviously not everyone is in a position to do what I do, nor do they approach life as I do. We all decide to do what we do, and our attitude in our relationships with others. And, it's not all about spending large sums of money. It takes time and an interest in improving a girl's life; it's more than the lowest price for the most desirable service provider for a few hours or a night. Just think about it. Would you rather have passionate sex or passionate sex with intimacy? The choice is each of ours.
Only good energy, amigos.
Oh, and there will be at least one Paisa that will cry when you die, because she knew that you cared about her / them.I really like this post, I agree with your philosophy on how to treat these girls in Medellin and spreading good energy vibes. I have never been involved with a girl in such depth as you have, but whenever I find a girl that I make a connection with I am sure to tip generously. I think it is always necessary to remember that these girls are human and have feelings. I think giving extra is a great way to show your appreciation.
Are we to help each other or to * and fucking moan?
I am getting pretty sick of visiting here and seeing fuck nothing for information and lots of infighting over trivial shit or vague "accomplishments" or who's ruining what for other mongerers.
Collectively, we are all ruining this board.
I have been pleased to see the Lists board being updated with a bit of useful information, but I am sure it won't take long for the bickering to spread there at this rate.The Colombian forum, esp the Medellin thread is an angry place a lot of the time. One blow hard leaves or mellows and another one comes along and fills his place. I couldn't stomach reading the whole John rant. Then you have several rebuts to it, keeping it (the rant) alive and breathing. I just want to see John's (I'm better than you rant) slide down and out of sight.
And he had the gall to knock our beloved Ricker, now that's crossing a line.
Wilt, you put forth some great info and a few others do as well, that's what keeps this board relevant. And lately some nice pics have been posted and I don't mean John's magazine cut-outs. I would hope that all of us could post more chica info (pics!) and offer stories about Medellin and it's beautiful pussy. It's not that hard to take a few pics of the babes.
Done? Not quite.
Ricker, don't lower yourself, anyone w/ a brain here already knows you have style and taste. Like you said to me earlier, don't sweat the small stuff.
Ricker, don't lower yourself, anyone w/ a brain here already knows you have style and taste. Like you said to me earlier, don't sweat the small stuff.What, what?
Did someone 'dis' me? LOL.
Hey we've all got our own style and taste, and I just don't have the desire for drama.
I'm back in Brazil and got some Brasileiras to catch up with, no time for the negative blah blah.
Happy times amigos, cause it goes by quickly.
Now the gringo theory: We gringos f. Ck up most of the play in any city we step on, that is a fact and won't change easily until our government and bankers finish with us and our over seas trips. You can go back in time and will see what a beautiful Mongering paradise was Russia, Argentina, Prague, Rio etc etc.
I was lucky enough to be there before the avalanche of gringos showed up. There were even model type girls working the streets of Moscow and La Roustic in Buenos Aires in it's Basement had a Club where the actual TV stars where escorting. Now you have to be a Millionaire to get access to them.I totally disagree. You're looking at the effects of better economies, not an influx of gringos. The best time to monger in those places was when the local currencies were weak and the economies were in turmoil. Not only did the dollar go farther, but there were more desperate women. Violence was also a consideration in Medellin. I met a couple of women in the late 1990's who wanted me to whisk them back to the USA because they wanted to live in a safe environment.
I totally disagree. You're looking at the effects of better economies, not an influx of gringos. The best time to monger in those places was when the local currencies were weak and the economies were in turmoil. Not only did the dollar go farther, but there were more desperate women. Violence was also a consideration in Medellin. I met a couple of women in the late 1990's who wanted me to whisk them back to the USA because they wanted to live in a safe environment.Dealdo's observation is accurate but I wholeheartedly agree with Tiny's assessment. Well said.
Are we to help each other or to * and fucking moan?
I am getting pretty sick of visiting here and seeing fuck nothing for information and lots of infighting over trivial shit or vague "accomplishments" or who's ruining what for other mongerers.
Collectively, we are all ruining this board.
I have been pleased to see the Lists board being updated with a bit of useful information, but I am sure it won't take long for the bickering to spread there at this rate.My thoughts exactly.
I know I am not a senior member with thousands of posts but, let's get back to the purpose of this board. Sharing intel on getting laid. I'm returning in January and this time I am staying for about two weeks. I value this site for the knowledge it gives to us that are somewhat new to certain area's. I have been to Colombia often and almost always it was to spend time with my girl and didn't have the luxury to venture around and enjoy what Colombia has to offer. Hot hot hot Women that can be had for a few US dollars. I live in Miami and if you want a hot piece of Latina ass here you will pay $$ or more for just an hour. So I thoroughly plan on enjoying my first time visiting Colombia as a single 30 something year old gringo.
I have ventured to Barranquilla quite frequently over the years and only spent 1 very quick 4 days in Medellin recently. I value all of your opinions when it comes to places to visit and places to avoid. I am not very fluent in espanol PERO yo entiendo poco, escribe poco, why habla poco. I know enough to survive and enough to keep myself out of trouble. What I don't have is the inside knowledge of places to enjoy if I venture around solo. What prices I should pay, times to visit specific location, etc. For guys like me we greatly appreciate coming here and learning from your experiences. That is afterall what this page is for. I am a member of USASexguide and I enjoy the intel we share for my area. Miami can be a ***** when it comes to escorts, massage parlors, and street walkers. PD is always ruining a day for most mongers and working girls. So to enjoy a place like Colombia where I can easily kick back and walk into a place and not worry about a bust from local PD is a pleasure.
I know some of you have favorite locations and some just straight up dislike other mongers and establishments for your personal reasons but let's all just enjoy what we are doing. Meeting beautiful Latin women and getting laid. I am not rich and don't have money to blow every day so a good bargain and knowing prices helps me plan a trip. Of course things change but it's nice to be prepared.
Thanks to those that made the List board come alive with locations and prices. It helps a lot. I look up to you senior members for helping us younger guys. So let's put this back and forth crap behind us and move forward with good intel and sharing experiences.
PartyPooper87
11-20-13, 03:45
Can someone help me? I'm in Medellin for a week and this city is huge. I want to switch hotels and stay close to mongering locations. I'm staying in a very nice side of town and can't get out like I want to. This city is huge and no one speaks English. The cab drivers will rip you off if they get a chance and the strip club I visited last night was in a ghetto. I was not impressed with any of the line up and felt like this place has been a waste of my time. The everyday women I met are pretty, but I can only go so far with my limited Spanish. Are there any mongers out there that want to meet up? I can't find any of the daytime mongering places on the list provided in a previous forum. I asked a cab driver to take me to liquid lounge and he said he never heard of it. I don't have a cell, so I may need to buy one but I'm only here for one week. I thought about calling an escort, but with limited Spanish it won't work. On a side note this city really is nice and I wouldn't mind living here a couple months out the year during retirement. Gringos can completely blend into society. I really need some help mongering shouldn't be this hard. LOL
I totally disagree. You're looking at the effects of better economies, not an influx of gringos. The best time to monger in those places was when the local currencies were weak and the economies were in turmoil. Not only did the dollar go farther, but there were more desperate women. Violence was also a consideration in Medellin. I met a couple of women in the late 1990's who wanted me to whisk them back to the USA because they wanted to live in a safe environment.Not necessary, If you go back in time the best times in BUenos Aires for example and when La Roustic was in it's highest point was Before "El corralito" and the collapse of their economy, Peso Argentino was One To One. Same thing in Rio, who doesn't remember "Help" (not existing any more) or Cafe Foto, or Gruta Azul in Porto Alegre (before the new rip off costume of them) , Real Brasileiro was One To One. And those where the best times to find cuties out of this world and prices where half than now on those places.
In Moscow things didn't change much for the general population, the poor still very poor and Dollar won't make better their lives, we all know that we don't go there to make better their lives, but to squish the last drop of Oil, Uranium and Diamonds. Escorts hell yeah, they can get richer and mechanical and that affect us directly but the rest strangle just like Latin Americans or Asian and Africans do.
Not everything is black and withe, But I wasn't talking about economics at all. Just the nostalgia of more local flavor and better services everywhere, people with more identity and culture. But this can't be a reason to get mad or so, just my point of view, We gringos make things going down the drain we did it in our own country, that's why we try to escape from that sex slavery we created for us, we are just to proud to accept it, not me I don't blind myself and always open to correct my bad interpretation if I'm proved wrong, no problem at all, because nobody dies of that . So maybe I'm absolutely wrong.
Ok now an updating about the most loved girl in the forum,
I just talked to Geraldine very quickly, She denies she is pregnant an she is retiring, So good news for all her fans, She still in the business but cutting off FB where probably started the rumor, well, I love when they get annoyed of that dramatic page, I don't dig it much either and I understand why she is tired and sick of it, so humanizing the communications she still using her phone for the lucky dudes are in town and can reach her. Don't get mad if she doesn't answer, is just not your lucky time she also turn it off to take a break. If you are a regular I would recommend to text her to not being ignored. Good luck
Both factors are valid.
I would say the biggest factor is the standard of living of the average person where we are mongering. If the local economy is really bad, obviously the women will tend to give it up for much less.
Having said that, if a large concentration of tourist mongers is present in a certain area, we tend to big up prices, sometimes significantly. This can be seen in the difference in pricing for Centro termas vs Zona Sul termas in Rio. Or Poblado / P. Lleras prices vs Laureles prices in Medellin.
It must be said that alot of tourist mongers aren't too bright ("dumb American"). How many times have you heard,"I'd pay $300 in the US, so $100 isn't that much."? Well yes, but the average person in the US makes several times what the average person makes in Country X, Y, or Z.
IMO, any foreigner that goes to Medellin, Rio, etc and is paying the kind of prices that John refers to is asking for trouble. The chica is going to tell her friends (including her guy friends) how much money you're throwing around. And that is going to make you a target. $100 is a shitload of money in MDE. As much as many folks make in a month. There are lots of local banditos who will kill for $100.
Like many here, I could easily afford to pay these chicas way more than the "going rate." However, I think it's idiotic to do so. Not because I'm saving a few dollars. But because I'm inviting trouble by acting like a big shot in a foreign country.
And regarding travel. Alot (but clearly not all) of these girls could care less about going to Machu Picchu or wherever. They'd rather be home with their Paisas listening to Reggaeton.
Also, I've met Ricker. The girls love him. The really hot ones included. I'll take his POV any day over some guy offering to set me up with his "private stash" for 1st World prices.
I totally disagree. You're looking at the effects of better economies, not an influx of gringos. The best time to monger in those places was when the local currencies were weak and the economies were in turmoil. Not only did the dollar go farther, but there were more desperate women. Violence was also a consideration in Medellin. I met a couple of women in the late 1990's who wanted me to whisk them back to the USA because they wanted to live in a safe environment.
Girl from La Isla, Juliana Speaks excellent english. Interestingly, she speaks with a "british" accent. She is from Pereira. Took her out on TLN on Tuesday night. She is pretty. 24, 5' 4", very fair skinned. Almost looks Russian / eastern european. She is all natural. She likes to dance and smoke weed. Most importantly, an energetic and enthusiastic lay.
I have recently seen someone ask about english speaking girls. If you want one, She is it.
Member #4287
11-20-13, 08:29
Girl from La Isla, Juliana Speaks excellent english. Interestingly, she speaks with a "british" accent. She is from Pereira. Took her out on TLN on Tuesday night. She is pretty. 24, 5' 4", very fair skinned. Almost looks Russian / eastern european. She is all natural. She likes to dance and smoke weed. Most importantly, an energetic and enthusiastic lay.
I have recently seen someone ask about english speaking girls. If you want one, She is it.I totally agree. If someone wants to meet her just PM me and I can give you her cell.
Ok now an updating about the most loved girl in the forum,
I just talked to Geraldine very quickly, She denies she is pregnant an she is retiring, So good news for all her fans, She still in the business but cutting off FB where probably started the rumor, well, I love when they get annoyed of that dramatic page, I don't dig it much either and I understand why she is tired and sick of it, so humanizing the communications she still using her phone for the lucky dudes are in town and can reach her. Don't get mad if she doesn't answer, is just not your lucky time she also turn it off to take a break. If you are a regular I would recommend to text her to not being ignored. Good luckShe either lied to one of us or took care of the situation. She specifically told us that, but maybe she was really upset temporarily and now feels better about things. I'll find out more when I get there next week.
FruitNinja
11-20-13, 12:24
noms de guerre (nm)
A fictitious name; a pseudonym
They were announcing the end of his fictitious name? I don't think you are using that word in the correct context. At least provide some useful info (on the original subject) intermingled with the shameless plug / promotion of your club, LOL.
This post is almost as bad as the one posted by Fruit Cake Ninja a few posts down.A sense of humor is a terrible thing to waste.
SlamCity7777
11-20-13, 13:38
I totally agree. If someone wants to meet her just PM me and I can give you her cell.Hello CH,
Could you be so kind as to pass me along Julia's # Sounds about my style. Other than going to La Isla. I hate cover charges! On principle! LOL.
Do you have a photo or link to her FB page? You had me at all natural and likes to smoke pot.
Thanks
Member #4244
11-20-13, 14:07
true, let's change gears, i think john gave us a valuable inside that is not touched often and is not for the most. but here some question that could be useful.
going to fase dos i saw some little spinners around the corner, they look like sw, some of them where very doable looking, last trip i saw them too but they where very bad looking, i heard they are working. can you guys comment about them? are they dangerous? (talking about rip off pimps and stuff) is being longg since i pick a good girl from the streets, i felt like part of a lier hollywood movie where sw are hot. thanks guyshi, dealdo, i was at fase recently also and impressed by the overall talent, even if there weren't any 10s. out of 20 girls i thought more than half were doable, several 8s in the mix.
as for the sws, yes, they congregate near f2 / premium plaza. you can catch them on 30 and 33. also near plaza botero / museo de antioquia. also the unmarked casas (late night action, after 12) have similar girls.
i would compare the sw scene to shopping at ross dress for less. 95% of what is there (and sometimes 100%) is junk, factory seconds, defective merchandise, dirty clothes or stuff that doesn't have anything wrong with it but is just ugly and undesirable to most people. but that means there are some gems to be found for cheap. you just have to look carefully! there seem to be fewer **** girls on the street than there used to be, but there are still plenty of them out there. you also get a lot of transvestites, obviously. you find girls who live on the street essentially and they are in poor health, often huffing sacol (strong glue / adhesive). that said, there are also a lot of girls who just do it part time or otherwise cannot work in casas (age issues or other factors) that are healthy, inexpensive and eager to please. i would not be overly concerned with being robbed or anything, it's always a remote possibility but no more distinct with a street girl imo. what day did you go? i do like spinners lol. there are a couple groups of them that hang out around san diego, one of them is like a family. there is the oldest one and then her half sister and two cousins. i forget their names, nicol, isabel and two others. i would wager they are all not of age though, that's the biggest concern, that and overall health.
Member #4244
11-20-13, 14:07
She either lied to one of us or took care of the situation. She specifically told us that, but maybe she was really upset temporarily and now feels better about things. I'll find out more when I get there next week.A prostitute who is erratic, inconsistent and willing to lie about something major for attention? You don't say! .
Member #4244
11-20-13, 14:12
Both factors are valid.
I would say the biggest factor is the standard of living of the average person where we are mongering. If the local economy is really bad, obviously the women will tend to give it up for much less.
Having said that, if a large concentration of tourist mongers is present in a certain area, we tend to big up prices, sometimes significantly. This can be seen in the difference in pricing for Centro termas vs Zona Sul termas in Rio. Or Poblado / P. Lleras prices vs Laureles prices in Medellin.
It must be said that alot of tourist mongers aren't too bright ("dumb American"). How many times have you heard,"I'd pay $300 in the US, so $100 isn't that much."? Well yes, but the average person in the US makes several times what the average person makes in Country X, Y, or Z.
IMO, any foreigner that goes to Medellin, Rio, etc and is paying the kind of prices that John refers to is asking for trouble. The chica is going to tell her friends (including her guy friends) how much money you're throwing around. And that is going to make you a target. $100 is a shitload of money in MDE. As much as many folks make in a month. There are lots of local banditos who will kill for $100.
Like many here, I could easily afford to pay these chicas way more than the "going rate." However, I think it's idiotic to do so. Not because I'm saving a few dollars. But because I'm inviting trouble by acting like a big shot in a foreign country.
And regarding travel. Alot (but clearly not all) of these girls could care less about going to Machu Picchu or wherever. They'd rather be home with their Paisas listening to Reggaeton.
Also, I've met Ricker. The girls love him. The really hot ones included. I'll take his POV any day over some guy offering to set me up with his "private stash" for 1st World prices.Right, Colombians still set the prices in the overwhelming majority of establishments here. Just go a few times and you will see that 90% of clients are Colombians. The local economy sets both the supply and demand sides. The flipside of that is that foreigners should be more observant and pay what the locals are paying more often. I don't think it's "inviting trouble" to pay more, but it's not necessary. I always say pay the standard rate, tip fairly for extras and great service.
The travel thing, just think about it, if you were comfortable, having fun and making money, what would the point be of traveling on someone else's terms so they can rail you three times a day while dragging you wherever they are going? The other end of that is that you should only take a girl you really feel comfortable with. Traveling with a girl is great but don't be pressed to do it. If she is not into it, just back off, it's best for both of you. Don't keep throwing money and pressure at the problem, you won't have a good result. If the girl actually likes you and wants to go where you're going, she won't give a shit about the terms outside of maybe some logistical stuff (paying babysitters, bills, whatever).
LookingToSwing4
11-20-13, 14:17
The Colombian forum, esp the Medellin thread is an angry place a lot of the time. One blow hard leaves or mellows and another one comes along and fills his place. I couldn't stomach reading the whole John rant. Then you have several rebuts to it, keeping it (the rant) alive and breathing. I just want to see John's (I'm better than you rant) slide down and out of sight.
And he had the gall to knock our beloved Ricker, now that's crossing a line.
Wilt, you put forth some great info and a few others do as well, that's what keeps this board relevant. And lately some nice pics have been posted and I don't mean John's magazine cut-outs. I would hope that all of us could post more chica info (pics!) and offer stories about Medellin and it's beautiful pussy. It's not that hard to take a few pics of the babes.
Done? Not quite.
Ricker, don't lower yourself, anyone w / a brain here already knows you have style and taste. Like you said to me earlier, don't sweat the small stuff.I continue to be amazed at some of the discussions on this board. I used to engage in these back and forth rants before I realized what a waste of time it was and because it was just an energy sink with nothing to show at the end, beyond being a bit angry. What I have discovered is whether it be MDE, Thailand, Rio, Philippines, Costa Rica, etc, we ALL roll differently, we ALL have different means, and we ALL have different experiences we seek. I am in a good place now where I just focus on what I want to get out of it without worrying about what others might think about it. Perhaps if this board ever returns to simply exchanging information among friends, I might start sharing more of what I have learned during my travels. Until then, I will just keep my thoughts to myself because SOMEONE is sure to take exception to it and feel the need to attack it. Off to Thailand and MDE in about 10 days, but will just keep my experiences to myself. Happy Holidaze Everyone!
The travel thing, just think about it, if you were comfortable, having fun and making money, what would the point be of traveling on someone else's terms so they can rail you three times a day while dragging you wherever they are going? The other end of that is that you should only take a girl you really feel comfortable with. Traveling with a girl is great but don't be pressed to do it. If she is not into it, just back off, it's best for both of you. Don't keep throwing money and pressure at the problem, you won't have a good result. If the girl actually likes you and wants to go where you're going, she won't give a shit about the terms outside of maybe some logistical stuff (paying babysitters, bills, whatever).Very well put
PartyPooper87
11-20-13, 16:20
This forum is useless. I'm coming across more freebies than working girls. WTF! The one thing about freebies I don't like is investing time. I got bored at the hotel yesterday and visited a gym around the corner. I pulled 1 chica's number for a little one-on-one, but I don't have a freakin' phone. LOL. If I could fluently speak Spanish this place would be heaven. The women are far more open to dating foreigners as opposed to other Latin-American countries. Can anyone recommend one daytime place to monger with 7's and 8's. One night time spot to monger with 9's and 10's. The places I have visited don't even come close to the talent I see on a daily basis walking the street.
Thanks
hi, dealdo, i was at fase recently also and impressed by the overall talent, even if there weren't any 10s. out of 20 girls i thought more than half were doable, several 8s in the mix.
as for the sws, yes, they congregate near f2 / premium plaza. you can catch them on 30 and 33. also near plaza botero / museo de antioquia. also the unmarked casas (late night action, after 12) have similar girls.
i would compare the sw scene to shopping at ross dress for less. 95% of what is there (and sometimes 100%) is junk, factory seconds, defective merchandise, dirty clothes or stuff that doesn't have anything wrong with it but is just ugly and undesirable to most people. but that means there are some gems to be found for cheap. you just have to look carefully! there seem to be fewer **** girls on the street than there used to be, but there are still plenty of them out there. you also get a lot of transvestites, obviously. you find girls who live on the street essentially and they are in poor health, often huffing sacol (strong glue / adhesive). that said, there are also a lot of girls who just do it part time or otherwise cannot work in casas (age issues or other factors) that are healthy, inexpensive and eager to please. i would not be overly concerned with being robbed or anything, it's always a remote possibility but no more distinct with a street girl imo. what day did you go? i do like spinners lol. there are a couple groups of them that hang out around san diego, one of them is like a family. there is the oldest one and then her half sister and two cousins. i forget their names, nicol, isabel and two others. i would wager they are all not of age though, that's the biggest concern, that and overall health.thanks a lot bro, i was to comment also about heir age, but is real hard to see the difference in medellin, a lot of them are super small and they look way younger, obviously we can't ask for their i'd to the sw, so i think i will stay away from them, healthy and age issues just raise the red flag on.
it was friday about 11:00 pm when i saw them, a couple them very cute, i was wondering why they weren't working in fase, being so close. i was to meet my "russian" girl at fase that's why i didn't stop. i could have better intel now to share. if you get some good action there let us know please.
A prostitute who is erratic, inconsistent and willing to lie about something major for attention? You don't say! .Jaja. Yes wonders never cease, but she definitely was.
Jaja. Yes wonders never cease, but she definitely was.Well yes, she may be laying to one of us, that is just normal in most girls, You know girls can be voluble, bipolar etc. She is a real good girl to me, but that doesn't stop her for still being a girl with all the dramas and inconsistencies they have, the important thing is that ToDay she feels like keep working we may catch her or not, that is the beauty also of this game, I will cut off my veins if I would get mad because of the way they are, I have lost so many chances of scoring 10s just because of their instability, but how good it is when you get them in their best mood. I may get mad sometimes but I still love them the way they are (For one hour or some =)
Hello CH,
Could you be so kind as to pass me along Julia's # Sounds about my style. Other than going to La Isla. I hate cover charges! On principle! LOL.
Do you have a photo or link to her FB page? You had me at all natural and likes to smoke pot.
ThanksSlam, I hope Cali Hentai sent you her number. Since I made the original post, let me add that it is highly unlikely that she will come see you outside of La Isla multa system. The first time you see her. When she worked at Fase II, she came out to meet for dinner and fun, the second time. Also, we did a double date then.
Caro (Carolina) . She is 19/20, cute face. 5' 4" and has a great all natural body. She has a kid but you cannot tell. Flat abs and tits are firm. Clearly, genetically blessed :-D. The best part is that she is very sweet and very accommodative may be because she is new to the business. It was her first TLN and she did not know how much to charge. She enjoys light drinking and smoked with me for the first time. It was fun to watch her experience her first joint.
Another one, Manuela is sweeter than Caro (if that is possible) , 23, petite at 5' 0" is arguably my favourite on this trip. She is 90- 95 lbs. I know because I picked her up a few times :-D. She is also all natural and a great pole dancer, which is rare among Colombians. She is a true spinner with a six-pack and a show stopper on the stage at La Isla. The tight package is hard to miss but I also have her phone number. Before you ask, I am not sure about FB as I am not a big FBooker so I generally do not enquire.
Neither of these two sweet girls speak english, both are new and first time TLN for both of them. Manuela cuddled and spooned all night, which is priceless. You can't pay somebody to do that! It either happens or it does not. She also stayed till 8 AM as she does not have kids at home.
Smooth Slim
11-20-13, 21:38
What I have discovered is whether it be MDE, Thailand, Rio, Philippines, Costa Rica, etc, we ALL roll differently, we ALL have different means, and we ALL have different experiences we seek.Well said Looking.
This is something I keep in mind in as I read this board and others. I would add, and it has been mentioned in other posts: Your appearance and more importantly your personality can also help / hinder the experiences you seek. Just like in any culture, a charming personality can go a long way.
Even in the argumentative back and forth posts, I have learned a lot about the country, the city, the customs and the paisas where I will soon make my first visit. Being a veteran of Brasil, the Philippines, Costa Rica and Thailand, I can say the information in the various threads on the Colombia board is equally as helpful as info on those boards. In some cases, the Google maps and info there in, is especially informative.
The conversations on this particular thread have been illuminating and helpful in broadening my knowledge. It has taken me down unexpected paths and brought forth information that may be buried deep in other threads.
Some Colombia newbies, like me, may be researching and concerned mostly about the facts. But I would tell them, don't get annoyed by the heated discussions in this thread. Ignore the personal attacks, but read the thread because you should find something useful, especially if you are starting with little to zero knowledge base.
Thanks all for sharing your knowledge.
Well yes, she may be laying to one of us, that is just normal in most girls, You know girls can be voluble, bipolar etc. She is a real good girl to me, but that doesn't stop her for still being a girl with all the dramas and inconsistencies they have, the important thing is that ToDay she feels like keep working we may catch her or not, that is the beauty also of this game, I will cut off my veins if I would get mad because of the way they are, I have lost so many chances of scoring 10s just because of their instability, but how good it is when you get them in their best mood. I may get mad sometimes but I still love them the way they are (For one hour or some =)This is my view as well. They are what they are, it's best to understand and accept these characteristics or find another hobby.
While friends w / Geraldine on fb in the last few months she would lament about this or that. Such as,"why do I do this to myself" or "God please help me out of this difficulty". So she is struggling w / her life at times.
She's not the only one though. I hear some sad stories from time to time. I just tell them to do the best they can. I know of one beauty that quit the trade and is now pumping gas. She has long days & crazy hours at the gas station. She's been doing this for about a year now. Needless to say she is still very poor but she is a normal (whatever that means) lady again, I talk w / her now and then and have sent her some funds but I can't expect her to come and see me at the Castillo because she is still very vulnerable I'm sure. If she sees me for at the Castillo, she has to check in, go to the room, just in her old life as a hooker, she knows that is not possible and we don't talk about it, it's just not going to happen. So we're just friends w / a short life span I'm sure. The poorer ladies of Colombia just have a real tough life, the government, the police, they could give a shit about them. Geraldine is just one of many many Colombianas.
On a different note, thanks for the info on the FLs near Fase Dos, this is good info indeed!
Best to all, Happy Thanksgiving and Happy Hunting for your next bird.
RiceRocket99
11-21-13, 02:27
On my first trip to MDE, I came across this casa (Blue Room) by accident since the driver had no idea where Energy was and took me here instead. It's priced like Energy, I believe it was 100K for an hr. Anyone has address info on this as I plan on going back there when I land in MDE this weekend. Thanks in advance.
Member #4244
11-21-13, 02:52
On my first trip to MDE, I came across this casa (Blue Room) by accident since the driver had no idea where Energy was and took me here instead. It's priced like Energy, I believe it was 100K for an hr. Anyone has address info on this as I plan on going back there when I land in MDE this weekend. Thanks in advance.The Energy address is in the Medellin list section. I am surprised the cabbie did not know it. It is near the stadium.
Member #4244
11-21-13, 02:59
Thanks a lot Bro, I was to comment also about heir age, but is real hard to see the difference in Medellin, a lot of them are super small and they look way younger, obviously we can't ask for their I'd to the SW, so I think I will stay away from them, healthy and age issues just raise the red flag on.
It was Friday about 11:00 PM when I saw them, a couple them very cute, I was wondering why they weren't working in Fase, being so close. I was to meet my "Russian" girl at Fase that's why I didn't stop. I could have better intel now to share. If you get some good action there let us know please.Why can't you ask for their I'd? That seems reasonable and if you want to take them to a hotel they will likely need it, even a fuck motel. A lot of them arent working in clubs because it doesn't convene for them, also the clubs are kind of picky and overly strict, especially a place like F2.
I have other thoughts on this matter but I don't want to tread on any shaky ground here. If you have questions, feel free to inbox me.
I know exactly what you mean, me and a buddy who came to visit used to play an age guessing game. They were lots of 19s who looked 13 and a good number of 15s who looked 20. Some girls are petite for a long time, some fill out fast and look mature.
Was this "Russian" girl a fair skinned blonde with pretty full C cups? Real name is Diana Catalina? If so, I know her, nice one.
I have also found some unmarked casas that are open at night. I forget if I mentioned that. Some old timer put me onto them but they were closed on Monday. I will go back on the weekend. Looking at their exterior and setup, I am guessing they are not for the faint of heart.
Why can't you ask for their I'd? That seems reasonable and if you want to take them to a hotel they will likely need it, even a fuck motel. A lot of them arent working in clubs because it doesn't convene for them, also the clubs are kind of picky and overly strict, especially a place like F2.
I have other thoughts on this matter but I don't want to tread on any shaky ground here. If you have questions, feel free to inbox me.
I know exactly what you mean, me and a buddy who came to visit used to play an age guessing game. They were lots of 19s who looked 13 and a good number of 15s who looked 20. Some girls are petite for a long time, some fill out fast and look mature.
Was this "Russian" girl a fair skinned blonde with pretty full C cups? Real name is Diana Catalina? If so, I know her, nice one.
I have also found some unmarked casas that are open at night. I forget if I mentioned that. Some old timer put me onto them but they were closed on Monday. I will go back on the weekend. Looking at their exterior and setup, I am guessing they are not for the faint of heart.Thanks a lot, you gave us a very useful info here, Yes I forgot, in Colombia most girls carry with them their "cedulas" great point, I have worked the streets in Brasil and using love hotels in many other countries and many of them do not ask for I'd to the girls. Is like they already know them or so. Brasil was the last place where I pick up a super hot chick at La Farrapos and they didn't ask for anything, nor to me, only pay and go. So I'm pretty rusty on this game. I think I will fallow your advise and will take a shot there.
Ahh the Russian girl, I think we are talking about a different "Russian" the girl I talk about is Veronica, petite, very cute round face, almond eyes, very blond silky straight hair, very eastern European style, perfect sun tanning, super firm body, flat abs, toned legs, perfect perky small pinky breast, adorable smile, (hahaha this MF is in love right?) and great in bed.. Real name? I don't remember she told me and I forgot But Is not Svetlana hahaha, but maybe is Catalina, fck this memory,, any ways, Veronica, she is one of my favorite "Skinny" girls, BUT she is not American skinny type OK, so guys do not get your hopes hight, she has pretty proportionated curves not an American stick.. Recommendable BUT she doesn't kiss.. be warned.
Those unmarked houses, yes, I have been in those kind too, my taxista used to take us to plenty of those all night gloomy places, most of the time we got there waking up people and starting the small party with the badly make up girls, all sleepy and stuff, poor girls, many of them were 5s. 6s and couple 7s but at that time anything above 5 was good hahaha. Mamasans are used to drunk party beasts so they offer you right away a bottle or agua ardiente, or anything at very reasonable prices, they put music and chicks do their best to entertain. I found this venue kind of interesting, and different, after few drinks and couple dances you feel like your average girl is the most sexy and fun creature and you are more than ready to take her, especially if you have drunken most of the night. But like you I was completely lost and had no idea were I was. Hopefully you can find out the addresses and share your next experience there.
On my first trip to MDE, I came across this casa (Blue Room) by accident since the driver had no idea where Energy was and took me here instead. It's priced like Energy, I believe it was 100K for an hr. Anyone has address info on this as I plan on going back there when I land in MDE this weekend. Thanks in advance.On my last trip some friends were raving about Blue Room http://casablueroom.com/ But haven't been there myself. I'm not a big casa guy, as I prefer the more freelancer system. I'm sure it's been mentioned before, but there are a couple of late night places in walking distance of Liquid in Barrio Colombia. El Tunel which I think just closed, but 5th Floor is open and had some freelancers mulling about. I have gone by there during slow periods at Liquid, and they have the occasional 8 but mostly 6's and 7's imo. Be prepared for a long climb. Guess how many floors.
Member #4287
11-21-13, 22:33
Caro (Carolina) . She is 19/20, cute face. 5' 4" and has a great all natural body. She has a kid but you cannot tell. Flat abs and tits are firm. Clearly, genetically blessed :-D. The best part is that she is very sweet and very accommodative may be because she is new to the business. It was her first TLN and she did not know how much to charge. She enjoys light drinking and smoked with me for the first time. It was fun to watch her experience her first joint.
Another one, Manuela Is sweeter than Caro (if that is possible) .23, petite at 5' 0" is arguably my favourite on this trip. She is 90- 95 lbs. I know because I picked her up a few times :-D. She is also all natural and a great pole dancer, which is rare among Colombians. She is a true spinner with a six-pack and a show stopper on the stage at La Isla. The tight package is hard to miss but I also have her phone number. Before you ask, I am not sure about FB as I am not a big FBooker so I generally do not enquire.
Neither of these two sweet girls speak english, both are new and first time TLN for both of them. Manuela Cuddled and spooned all night, which is priceless. You can't pay somebody to do that! It either happens or it does not. She also stayed till 8 AM as she does not have kids at home.There must be more than one Manuela at La Isla. Your description of her is perfect except the Manuela I know does have a child and it wouldn't have been her first TLN. Jajaja
Caro (Carolina) . She is 19/20, cute face. 5' 4" and has a great all natural body. She has a kid but you cannot tell. Flat abs and tits are firm. Clearly, genetically blessed :-D. The best part is that she is very sweet and very accommodative may be because she is new to the business. It was her first TLN and she did not know how much to charge. She enjoys light drinking and smoked with me for the first time. It was fun to watch her experience her first joint.
Another one, Manuela Is sweeter than Caro (if that is possible) .23, petite at 5' 0" is arguably my favourite on this trip. She is 90- 95 lbs. I know because I picked her up a few times :-D. She is also all natural and a great pole dancer, which is rare among Colombians. She is a true spinner with a six-pack and a show stopper on the stage at La Isla. The tight package is hard to miss but I also have her phone number. Before you ask, I am not sure about FB as I am not a big FBooker so I generally do not enquire.
Neither of these two sweet girls speak english, both are new and first time TLN for both of them. Manuela Cuddled and spooned all night, which is priceless. You can't pay somebody to do that! It either happens or it does not. She also stayed till 8 AM as she does not have kids at home.Reminds me of a little tune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtzIWPeun7c Them girls been working since Jr highschool age, And to paraphrase an AG comment "have swallowed gallons of cum"
GoldenGoose
11-22-13, 06:19
Just returned from another month in Medellin, excellent trip. 3rd month this year. As usual, I used my guide Willi (best guide in Medellin google it) to guide me almost every day. Willi speaks excellent English and knows all my favorite spots and is always up on new ones. I am already looking for my tickets for my next visit. I love Medellin!
PartyPooper87
11-22-13, 09:57
I finally got out to do some mongering. Caught a taxi from the hotel to energy. Taxi driver dropped me off at an address that looked like a abandon building. Taxi cost 8k = 4 USD. I walked inside to talk to the mamason. She showed me the line up, wasn't impressed a bunch of 7's. Grabbed the best looking one in my opinion a green eyed rubia. Nice buttle butt, however when she took her clothes off and you could see the bebe stretch marks. Mamason gave the the price of 85k for 30mins. According to the Medellin list I was over charged by 20k. First, she said noventa then she said ochenta. No need to walk out in protest because my taxi ride was gone and I wanted a quickie. So I gave the mamason 100k and she actually kept my change. Sad thing was I was so horny I didn't even care about. I later needed that 15k to catch the tax. I've noticed that Colombians like to keep change for uneven purchases. Wish I could finish this report but I got in at 3am. To be continued.
Cons: chupa con condom, can't handle above average size package,
Pros: The only women that sexo better than Colombian women are Brazilian women.
Reminds me of a little tune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtzIWPeun7c
Them girls been working since Jr highschool age, And to paraphrase an AG comment "have swallowed gallons of cum"Great song from from a great band. Thanks for posting but I am sorry I missed how it is relevant to my original report with real intel? I sincerely hope you are not trying to discourage one of the handful of posters who actually posts reports in a reports thread :-D
There must be more than one Manuela at La Isla. Your description of her is perfect except the Manuela I know does have a child and it wouldn't have been her first TLN. JajajaI am almost certain that she does not have a child but it is possible. I know that she did not make a big deal about it as most with kids do. All I know is that she stayed late and I know for a fact it is her first TLN from La Isla. It is also likely that there is another Manuela.
Reminds me of a little tune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtzIWPeun7c
Them girls been working since Jr highschool age, And to paraphrase an AG comment "have swallowed gallons of cum"Brown nosing AG are you? Yes you are! You won't get a discount though. The above is not one of your better post, the brown nosing part that is. Imo.
How about a moist towelette?
Not in my heaven (Medellin) but it's ugly cousin, Tijuana.
This head (BBBJ) was not easy to find. Mexicanas everywhere but they don't do bbbjs.
Found one that does.
Member #4244
11-22-13, 15:36
Girls arrive to this at all different ages, not every single one of them is some cum guzzling **** who started on the streets at 14 and worked her way up.
I've had a chance to get to know some of these girls very, very well. They all have distinct stories. There was one who was a lesbian until age 19 when her girlfriend started hooking. She was pressured into selling her virginity. She has never fucked a guy where it hasn't been for money, not even once! There was another one that was kind of awkward and chubby, didn't start having sex until she was 17 (in relative terms that is like 30 in the US LOL) and around 19 she started to get really active sexually to experiment. Her sister (14 at the time) got pregnant and she hit the pavement hooking in Cartagena and San Andres to begin a promising career. Another girl I know was in some all girls school and didn't have a boyfriend until she got out. She had banged two guys before she started hooking and cried after every fuck for a few weeks (this was in some MP, you can imagine she did decent volume, too). Still another one I know was 23 when she started, she got divorced and was a single mom with nothing to do for money. These are all 100% confirmed stories, let alone the ones I've been told and have no idea if they are true or not.
And, of course, everyone has to start working at some point in a new place. Maybe you're not her first trick but could be her first in that place. That happens at the MPs, if you go often enough you know when a girl is new. That is probably what happened here, this guy didn't say he was the first person this girl fucked for money or even in that establishment, just that he was the first person to take her TLN. Did that really require a "classic" rock song and a quote from perhaps the most cynical monger among us? I don't think so. The guy submitted a legit report, you didn't have to be a dick about it.
I once asked this question of a working girl, she smiled and replied "I tell lies and fabricate fantasies"
Member #4244
11-22-13, 18:04
I once asked this question of a working girl, she smiled and replied "I tell lies and fabricate fantasies"So his fantasy is to be her first TLN client at a particular bar?
This is a case of truth minus fact. Were you just dying to raise the obvious fact that these women lie and feed into a man's ego for money? Isn't that pretty much the job description? It still has zero to do with the guy's report.
Member #4244
11-22-13, 19:07
i finally got out to do some mongering. caught a taxi from the hotel to energy. taxi driver dropped me off at an address that looked like a abandon building. taxi cost 8k = 4 usd. i walked inside to talk to the mamason. she showed me the line up, wasn't impressed a bunch of 7's. grabbed the best looking one in my opinion a green eyed rubia. nice buttle butt, however when she took her clothes off and you could see the bebe stretch marks. mamason gave the the price of 85k for 30mins. according to the medellin list i was over charged by 20k. first, she said noventa then she said ochenta. no need to walk out in protest because my taxi ride was gone and i wanted a quickie. so i gave the mamason 100k and she actually kept my change. sad thing was i was so horny i didn't even care about. i later needed that 15k to catch the tax. i've noticed that colombians like to keep change for uneven purchases. wish i could finish this report but i got in at 3am. to be continued.
cons: chupa con condom, can't handle above average size package,
pros: the only women that sexo better than colombian women are brazilian women.dude, in five years, not one person has ever kept my change. why didn't you say something? that is borderline unheard of. the futzing around with the price is also somewhat surprising, usually the places have prices posted, especially an mp. that doesn't surprise me though, especially if it was slow and you were the only person there.
Had too many brews last night. It is a waste of time and money here in Tijuana. Why am I here? Cheers.
I got the mongering blues.
Dude, in five years, not one person has ever kept my change. Why didn't you say something? That is borderline unheard of. The futzing around with the price is also somewhat surprising, usually the places have prices posted, especially an MP. That doesn't surprise me though, especially if it was slow and you were the only person there.I agree. Colombians in general are very nice people. I conduct business in MDE and I have also never had an experience where they short you on change. Even the taxi drivers, dig into their pockets to try and find you exact change. Your experience is clearly an anomaly. Don't let that jade you and I wish you more pleasant encounters.
Member #4244
11-22-13, 21:42
Had too many brews last night. It is a waste of time and money here in Tijuana. Why am I here? Cheers.
I got the mongering blues.Hang in there. There is great fun to be had in Tijuana, you just have to be patient and vigilant. It's never going to be MDE overall, but if you look hard and pay a little extra, it can be MDE for a night. Good luck.
So his fantasy is to be her first TLN client at a particular bar?
This is a case of truth minus fact. Were you just dying to raise the obvious fact that these women lie and feed into a man's ego for money? Isn't that pretty much the job description? It still has zero to do with the guy's report.Yes, and Yes
Member #4244
11-23-13, 01:57
K.
Anyway, I went on a casa run today, a couple places on fliers that were given out. They were both on El Palo. 57-55 and 57-71. Nothing doing, bunch of downtrodden chicks LOL. I didn't go to New Life but have been recently, changes in the lineup, nothing all that enticing. I wound up at Aiffe and only took a girl there out of boredom. Whew, this place has dipped tremendously in quality in a very short period of time. Sofia, Luna, Cristina and another girl whose name I forget with great tits are all gone. Yesica was out this week with her period and so forth. The nine slags they had were all pretty horrible, including a couple you couldn't pay ME to fuck. A 20 year old flaca came out and I thought she would be a good bet. Eh, everything covered, no exceptions, breath smelled like a ham sandwich and she either recently had a kid or otherwise a near full term pregnancy because her stomach was a mess despite her thin frame. Her name, like the outgoing old favorite, is Sofia. Her service was OK but whatever brand of condom they use there is just a disaster. I had them call another girl that would at least blow me without a condom. They sent Melissa and she did a decent job after some rigmarole. I wound up having to pay for for two separate half hours but that's life. Overall, I think the MP scene is pretty dead right now, and apart from the weekends the SW scene is dead. Good thing the strip joints and independents are plentiful.
Had too many brews last night. It is a waste of time and money here in Tijuana. Why am I here? Cheers.
I got the mongering blues.I agree. I would be sitting in the Hong Kong Club and thinking,"This sucks. Why am I even here? Should I leave now before the border line gets too long? Am I going to get shot walkin down the street?" It actually took me a few times to learn that lesson. Tijuana is a dump. Its not even worth going there anymore.
Once you go to great places like MDE, it raises the bar. You get spoiled bro.
The only consolation prize to going to Tijuana are the awesome tacos. Damn, they are good. You cross just 10 miles across the border to San Diego, and the tacos look the same, but aren't as good. I have no idea why. Its not a complex receipe.
I agree. I would be sitting in the Hong Kong Club and thinking,"This sucks. Why am I even here? Should I leave now before the border line gets too long? Am I going to get shot walkin down the street?" It actually took me a few times to learn that lesson. Tijuana is a dump. Its not even worth going there anymore.
Once you go to great places like MDE, it raises the bar. You get spoiled bro.
The only consolation prize to going to Tijuana are the awesome tacos. Damn, they are good. You cross just 10 miles across the border to San Diego, and the tacos look the same, but aren't as good. I have no idea why. Its not a complex receipe.The mexican food is awesome, and bbbjs are decent but only available from 5's and 6's and that just doesn't cut it.
There are more really hot women in the Hong Kong Club then at any Medellin place I / e Mansion, La Mayorista but they are full of themselves and everything is covered and served really cold. Last night I saw a few stunners but it's a waste of time to approach, there were several good lookers or really cute ones but everything is covered w / them. I do like the city and the culture of Tijuana, you know, the drug wars, and muggings. Jaja, I really don't see any of that.
Coming here though is an effort and an expense that would be better saved for a bigger trip, even Mexico City or further into the country.
Medellin has completely spoiled me, the paisas there are warm and fun loving and the price is still right for this gringo.
I'm almost finished w / my breakfast and it's time to go stand in the border line for 2 + hours, then a 45 minute trolly. 10 minutes bus ride, and the 1 hour flight to SF, shuttle to car, wash up and take the wife out to a nice restaurant.
Next trip is in January. 2 days in El Salvador and then 8 in Medellin where I get what I freaking want every time.
.Overall, I think the MP scene is pretty dead right now, and apart from the weekends the SW scene is dead. Good thing the strip joints and independents are plentiful.Well damn, with reports like these, from a guy like Wilt, I think I may just skip my sort of planned after Thansgiving visit, and stay in Brazil.
Well damn, with reports like these, from a guy like Wilt, I think I may just skip my sort of planned after Thansgiving visit, and stay in Brazil.Now if there was a casa owners association in Medellin and I was the president and I had read your post Ricker I would offer Wilt the Stilt free passes for a month to write positive reports. Ps I am agreement with Wilt. There seem to be lots of new flaquitas in 6 of the strip clubs in el centro that I visit and that is without going out to barrio Colombia or mayo.
If by dead, he means tons of very hot girls giving excellent sessions in the casas, the Mansion loaded up with super models, and the SW scene abuzz, then yeah. I guess it's dead in Medellin right now.
Well damn, with reports like these, from a guy like Wilt, I think I may just skip my sort of planned after Thansgiving visit, and stay in Brazil.
i finally got out to do some mongering. caught a taxi from the hotel to energy. taxi driver dropped me off at an address that looked like a abandon building. taxi cost 8k = 4 usd. i walked inside to talk to the mamason. she showed me the line up, wasn't impressed a bunch of 7's. grabbed the best looking one in my opinion a green eyed rubia. nice buttle butt, however when she took her clothes off and you could see the bebe stretch marks. mamason gave the the price of 85k for 30mins. according to the medellin list i was over charged by 20k. first, she said noventa then she said ochenta. no need to walk out in protest because my taxi ride was gone and i wanted a quickie. so i gave the mamason 100k and she actually kept my change. sad thing was i was so horny i didn't even care about. i later needed that 15k to catch the tax. i've noticed that colombians like to keep change for uneven purchases. wish i could finish this report but i got in at 3am. to be continued.
cons: chupa con condom, can't handle above average size package,
pros: the only women that sexo better than colombian women are brazilian women.the price at energy has changed over the years. the list is not always up to date with the rapidly changing prices. the most up to date pricing for energy is on their website. there are various pricing levels.
Member #4244
11-24-13, 04:10
If by dead, he means tons of very hot girls giving excellent sessions in the casas, the Mansion loaded up with super models, and the SW scene abuzz, then yeah. I guess it's dead in Medellin right now.Like I said, there is still tons of good action to be had but there is no denying the MPs are in a lull right now. SW scene is abuzz half the week, slow the other half. I'm not sure what there is to argue about here. I'm not sure I've seen super models working the mansion, but Kathy is very sexy little spinner I would recommend.
Member #4244
11-24-13, 09:01
speaking of the centro clubs, i checked out conejitas and barra ejecutiva. conejitas, meh, not much doing. i am seldom impressed there. same mix of girls who look ok from a distance in the dark. the barra had a lot of the lifers there, not too many new girls but a few. i saw one that interested me quite a bit, flaca with some c cups and a very shapely body. it was kind of crowded though so i figured i would just go back on another night where the wait for a room wasn't so long and there weren't so many drunk asses in seats.
i hit the street scene in san diego. there was not much volume for a saturday night but some action to be had. i found melanie, a very beautiful girl who was clean and well presented, especially for a girl on the street. flat belly, very slim waist, shapely booty and some very perky, firm b cups. i thought she might be a pelada (kid) but her cedula said 19. she has nice straightened hair and a very pretty face, looks wise she is quite a gem especially for a chick working the san diego track. service was just ok, being her first time she was nervous and kind of annoyingly upsold thing. standard 20k bj or 50k fs, but kissing was extra (pretty artless kisser, just opens her mouth wide and kind of sloppily) as was bbbj. total damage with her extras, her fee and a taxi was about 100k. i probably could have been a hard ass bargaining this, but why? at any rate, she seemed nervous during the session. bj skills were just ok, nothing to write home about. she has a tight little cuca and her body is very touchable, rockin' frame on this broad for sure. she relaxed a little and got into it, the actual sex i had to kind of take charge but it went well. the sex was covered, she took a decent pounding and we talked about maybe some other stuff for next time around.
overall i would say the value would be great if not for the upselling, her looks are very good like a legit 8 and the service was decent with some room to improve.
also in that area is laura. 18, one kid, tramp stamp, very cute face, fuller (but not as firm) b cups and kind of a plain body. she has a laid back attitude and is willing to experiment. i find her to be pretty fun, ymmv of course.
there is a black girl with a slamming thick, shapely body but i think she is ****. runs with a crew of very young looking girls. 30k full service, but risky obviously. i did not partake.
a similar group but some of the girls are 18 at least is nicol, isabel, angelica and some others i don't know the names of. these girls are sometimes hard to get ahold of and other times very prompt in showing up.
lastly are laura and tatiana. tatiana is not working at the moment but will be again soon. spinner, very tight, super fun attitude if not a little guarded at first. understandable, especially for a girl who works on the street. laura is her fair skinned cousin, lighter and a little taller with a lip ring. i do not know about her service but she seems pretty cool.
overall there are some gems to glean among a sea of transvestites, sacoleros and street rats, but be patient. you may or may not find anything decent on any given night.
speaking of the centro clubs, i checked out conejitas and barra ejecutiva. conejitas, meh, not much doing. i am seldom impressed there. same mix of girls who look ok from a distance in the dark. the barra had a lot of the lifers there, not too many new girls but a few. i saw one that interested me quite a bit, flaca with some c cups and a very shapely body. it was kind of crowded though so i figured i would just go back on another night where the wait for a room wasn't so long and there weren't so many drunk asses in seats.
i hit the street scene in san diego. there was not much volume for a saturday night but some action to be had. i found melanie, a very beautiful girl who was clean and well presented, especially for a girl on the street. flat belly, very slim waist, shapely booty and some very perky, firm b cups. i thought she might be a pelada (kid) but her cedula said 19. she has nice straightened hair and a very pretty face, looks wise she is quite a gem especially for a chick working the san diego track. service was just ok, being her first time she was nervous and kind of annoyingly upsold thing. standard 20k bj or 50k fs, but kissing was extra (pretty artless kisser, just opens her mouth wide and kind of sloppily) as was bbbj. total damage with her extras, her fee and a taxi was about 100k. i probably could have been a hard ass bargaining this, but why? at any rate, she seemed nervous during the session. bj skills were just ok, nothing to write home about. she has a tight little cuca and her body is very touchable, rockin' frame on this broad for sure. she relaxed a little and got into it, the actual sex i had to kind of take charge but it went well. the sex was covered, she took a decent pounding and we talked about maybe some other stuff for next time around.
overall i would say the value would be great if not for the upselling, her looks are very good like a legit 8 and the service was decent with some room to improve.
also in that area is laura. 18, one kid, tramp stamp, very cute face, fuller (but not as firm) b cups and kind of a plain body. she has a laid back attitude and is willing to experiment. i find her to be pretty fun, ymmv of course.
there is a black girl with a slamming thick, shapely body but i think she is ****. runs with a crew of very young looking girls. 30k full service, but risky obviously. i did not partake.
a similar group but some of the girls are 18 at least is nicol, isabel, angelica and some others i don't know the names of. these girls are sometimes hard to get ahold of and other times very prompt in showing up.
lastly are laura and tatiana. tatiana is not working at the moment but will be again soon. spinner, very tight, super fun attitude if not a little guarded at first. understandable, especially for a girl who works on the street. laura is her fair skinned cousin, lighter and a little taller with a lip ring. i do not know about her service but she seems pretty cool.
overall there are some gems to glean among a sea of transvestites, sacoleros and street rats, but be patient. you may or may not find anything decent on any given night.what great (on the ground) info. man, you have a nice delivery of intel. this area is on my todo list (big time) come january. this is in my wheelhouse (whatever that means) , too bad you're not going to be around. thanks to you and the others bms w / this excellent intel. grassyass
LifeIsABeach
11-25-13, 02:51
I agree. I would be sitting in the Hong Kong Club and thinking,"This sucks. Why am I even here? Should I leave now before the border line gets too long? Am I going to get shot walkin down the street?" It actually took me a few times to learn that lesson. Tijuana is a dump. Its not even worth going there anymore. Once you go to great places like MDE, it raises the bar. You get spoiled bro. The only consolation prize to going to Tijuana are the awesome tacos. Damn, they are good. You cross just 10 miles across the border to San Diego, and the tacos look the same, but aren't as good. I have no idea why. Its not a complex receipe.Been going to Tijuana for over 15 years There is no comparison between Tijuana and real mongering destinations. Tijuana is something you do in between your long trips to mongering destinations. I go each month to Tijuana to change the 'oil'. It's recommended to keep the body healthy!
I rarely eat tacos when in Tijuana. Too many good real food places, like goat meat Birria, Siete mares and many more Sea food places. If you want a whole hot barbecues chicken, the best place is next to the big Church. That's all they do for about $4. 00. A few $25. 00 / hour massage places to get the body feel good during the day before venturing out later.
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